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This is a discussion on Hello from IL within the New Members Introduce Yourself forums, part of the Welcome To DefensiveCarry.com category; Just wanted to say hi. I am a Network Engineer in the suburbs of Chicago. I have been shooting for about 22 years now. Rifle, ...
Just wanted to say hi. I am a Network Engineer in the suburbs of Chicago. I have been shooting for about 22 years now. Rifle, pistol, trap, ect.....
Recently took my Utah and Florida CCW class. Looking forward to being able to carry outside of IL. I am a firm believer in our 2nd amendment rights and hope it is just a matter of time before IL will allow CCW.
Looks like a great forum! Thanks.
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A man before his time
Father of Science Fiction
Yesterday was the birthday of the man known as the 'Father of Science Fiction'. Jules Verne wrote about things that seem perfectly normal today. But he was writing about things like planes and submarines long before they had really been invented.
Jules Gabriel Verne was born on February 8, 1828, in Nantes, France. His father was a lawyer. He thought Jules was going to be a lawyer as well. He was sad when he discovered Jules was writing novels. Verne did manage to pass his law degree. He died in 1905.
Into the future
Verne put his thoughts into the future. At that time people could not believe what he described would come true. But, his dreams of undersea and air travel have become everyday realities. In 1863 he wrote of tall glass buildings, gas-powered cars, calculators and a worldwide communications network.
Pierre-Jules Hetzel
Hetzel was an important French publisher. He helped Verne with his books. Hetzel asked Verne to be more positive in his writing. He decided that the heroes should live happily. This made the books more popular. Hetzel and Verne worked well together for more than 40 years. They produced more than 60 works in the Voyages series.
Verne's books were not very popular in English. The translations were not good. They were re-translated into English from 1965. His books have been translated into more than 140 languages.
Many of Verne's books were made into films. These started in 1916 with 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea then The Mysterious Island (1929 and 1961), From the Earth to the Moon (1958), Journey to the Centre of the Earth (1959 and 2008), and, the most popular, Around the World in 80 Days (1956).
Now do this
Match up the characters to the stories:
1 Five Weeks in a Balloon
2 Journey to the Centre of the Earth
3 From the Earth to the Moon
4 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
5 Around the World in 80 Days
6 The Mysterious Island
a. Captain Nemo
b. Phileas Fogg
c. Dr Samuel Ferguson
d. Captain Syrus Smith
e. Professor Lidenbrock
f. Impey Barbicane
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I am running Spiceworks from my admin workstation (Vista SP1) and when I run a network scan none of my domain network printers are discovered. They are within the range of IP's defined for the scan and I can ping them all. What am I missing? The printers are on the primary domain controller which is a Microsoft Windows Server 2003 machine.
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Niagara Technology Group (NTG) is an IT service provider.
I'm confused by your description, are they on the network or on the server? Printer peripherals are not part of the scan. If the printers are network devices in their own right then they will need to be scanned by JetDirect, HTTP or SNMP. Do these printers have one of these options available to be detected?


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Parenting & Family, Saving 101
Ultimate Back to School Shopping Guide
Back-to-school season is in full swing, and places everywhere are offering flashy deals and the promise of savings on everything your children need to start their classes. But which retailer is the best, and where can you save the most money?
Here is the ultimate back to school shopping guide so you can get the most for your child while spending the least.
1. Target
Target is the place to go for high-quality school clothing that will survive the rough sports and activities of the school year, along with durable notebooks featuring a range of designs for only 50 cents. Not to mention their specialized deals for the back-to-school season. Even you, the parent, can take advantage of the savings while the kids are away at school, with Cash Back deals on beauty, bed, and bath products. This means the entire household can benefit from the coupons used at Target, not just the kids. If you don't live near a Target, or if you want to save on time, you can visit their website and do all your shopping online.
2. Walmart
Walmart is known for having everything, and this makes it an excellent choice for ensuring your kids are both decked to the nines at a reasonable price and fully equipped with all the essentials for the classroom. What makes Walmart one of the best choices is their price-matching policy, meaning if your kid falls in love with a superhero notebook that's looking a little too pricey for you, all it takes is a quick Google search to find out which stores sell it for a lesser price. Simply show the sale to the cashier and get the same low price without making the drive.
The savings become even more substantial with Ebates' Walmart coupons, giving you rollbacks and even Cash Back on your purchases. Match this with the marked-down prices they offer in July for that school-supply rush, and you have the chance to make money while you're spending it.
3. Office Depot
When it comes to all the really important essentials, Office Depot has you covered with deals that encompass more than just backpacks or crayons – you can receive huge savings on essentials such as printers and tablets so your kids have all the technology they need, in addition to the classic supplies. Because Office Depot lacks school clothes, matching this option with others such as Target and Walmart will ensure that you receive the best deals across the board.
4. Dollar Tree
The Dollar Tree is perfect for keeping a tight budget because everything in the store is a dollar or less. With summer coming close to its end, they're marking down their prices even more on the necessary school supplies. In addition to notebooks, pens, pencils, hand sanitizer, and backpacks, you can pick up all the craft supplies for your kids' creative activities, and even specialized charms and gems to brighten up their style.
5. Staples
In the modern age, school supplies mean more than just pens and paper. If your teen needs a laptop for their more advanced classes or essay writing, you can redeem an Ebates coupon giving you significant savings and Cash Back on select laptops, keeping your kid up with the times without breaking the bank. Additionally, for the more traditional needs, Staples is still an excellent choice, with price cuts on all your items if you also buy a backpack.
7. eBay
eBay may not be the first retailer that comes to mind when you think of school supplies, but when it comes to buying in bulk, this online seller is hard-pressed for competition. With only a few minutes of your time at home, you can purchase packages of 100 or more assorted items, such as crayons, notecards, pens, pencils, and rulers. This option is a little less customized, with less freedom to choose the designs or colors of the notecards and pens, but the prices and the site's reliability make it a top choice. To make it even better, shipping the supplies to your door saves both time and gas money.
Finding all the necessities and fashionable frivolities your kid needs to stay focused and feel confident can often be the bane of a family on a budget, but by taking advantage of Cash Back and price-cutting deals offered by Ebates and featured retailers, back-to-school shopping can be cheap, painless, and fast.
From the latest tech to the hottest fashions and everything in between, the editors at The Smart Shopper are in the know and ready share their expertise. Check out our posts on shopping secrets and product trends for those who live for a little retail therapy.


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The Re-tube-verb still directs to the fans of the sixties tube sound. The amount of functions has been reduced when compared to the Retroverb, but now you are offered no-compromise tube-technique, which is more difficult to make than transistor-based units. You´ll find a fat sounding tube spring reverb with a lot of 60ies charme.Detailsavailability ? immediately available€ 19% VAT excl. €831.09 € 19% VAT incl. €989.00
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The 4th generation of Vermona´s Action Filter has a better mechanical construction and amended controls. Soundwise nothing has been changed and the unit still is a very attractive, good sounding stereo analog filter which is useful not only for DJs.Detailsavailability ? shortly avaliable€ 19% VAT excl. €247.90 € 19% VAT incl. €295.00
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The VSR-3.2 is a spring reverb effect unit with focus on simplicity and good sound.
Earlier spring reverb systems were used to bring the dense ambient sound of a cathedral into the hammond organ player´s living room. Meanwhile the typical, sometimes rattling and resonating reverb sound is a classic.Detailsavailability ? immediately available€ 19% VAT excl. €242.86 € 19% VAT incl. €289.00
Sherman Filterbank 2 - rack version
The Sherman Filterbank is a powerful analog filtering and distortion unit with a huge frequency range and a killing TUBE overdrive behavior. It's Easy and FUN to use, live and in the studio processing every sound source, effect mixing, expanding modular systems, etc.Detailsavailability ? immediately available€ 19% VAT excl. €578.99 € 19% VAT incl. €689.00
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"Are you sure you can do this?" Julian Bashir interrupted right as Miles O'Brien threw the dart, causing him to miss.
"Now that's cheating!" Miles responded. Julian laughed. They were playing one of their many dart games, and Julian was just barely ahead, and wanted to keep it that way. Quark's was pretty empty today, so he had to create his own distractions.
Just then Quark walked over, "Do you have to play that game here. You're scaring away all the customers."
"We're not scaring away anybody Quark. Look around. Your place is a mess," Bashir countered, gesturing around the bar. True to his word, Quark's bar hadn't been cleaned in days. The tables were sticky from drinks, and the floors had food all over them.
Quark responded, "It's not my fault. All my waiters quit to go back to Ferenginar. It's that stupid anomaly. It keeps getting larger and larger."
"Yes, we know," Bashir said. Then raising his voice to mock Major Kira he said, "Captain, if we don't get this under control soon it's going to destroy DS9, and then after that Bajor!"
"What was that Doctor?" Major Kira asked, having just walked in. She surveyed the room, looking disgusted by the filth, but oddly happy.
"Nothing Major," Julian responded, a little afraid.
"I thought so. Now Quark, Captain Sisko is about to declare an evacuation of all non-essential personnel. We're going to open negotiations with the Dominion. We have reason to believe that they've caused this anomaly. The Captain feels that you'll be best for the job since you've had more contact with them then the rest of us." Kira announced, suddenly looking glum. It was well known that she didn't like Quark, so she obviously didn't agree with the Captain's decision.
"Um. No thanks Major. I'll just go pack." Quark replied, looking scared.
"That wasn't a question Quark. You're in charge of the negotiations with the Dominion. You better not fail," Major Kira said quickly, then promptly left.
"Well, good luck to you Quark," Julian offered.
"All non-essential personnel, prepare for an evacuation. I repeat, prepare for evacuation," Sisko's voice came over the intercom. "All Starfleet officers should report for duty immediately."
"Thanks for letting us stay Quark," O'Brien said, then walked off, Julian right behind him.
Quark sat down on a bar stool and sighed, "This day just keeps getting better and better," he said sarcastically.
Suddenly his personal intercom blared to life, "Quark, meet me in my office. I need to go over the finer points with you," Sisko's voice came through again, then the intercom shut off.
Quark did one last look at his bar, then quickly turned and walked out. He headed straight for a turbolift. Maybe it's not to late to change Sisko's mind, thought Quark.
Just as the doors to the turbolift closed, a strange figure appeared on the promenade.
"Captain, I really don't think I'm the right person for this job," Quark said right as he walked into Sisko's office.
"Well I do, and I don't really care whether or not you're confident enough. You've already dealt with the Dominion, and you'll," Sisko responded, but before he could finish the station shook. He quickly got up and exited the office. "Report," he ordered.
"The anomaly has penetrated the shields," Dax reported.
"How many of the runabout's got away?" Sisko asked.
"All of them," Dax reported. It's just the bridge crew now. And Quark," Dax answered.
The turbolift could be heard arriving, then came suddenly into view. "What is this place. I've never been anywhere like it. And that's rare. I've been just about everywhere."


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Home › Forums › Campfire › Hiking Partners / Group Trip Announcements › Michigan Trip
@aldoleopoldLocale: Great Lakes
Stephen M and I are planning a weekend trip in early September. It will be in the LP to keep driving distances down. Destination unknown, Sleeping Bear Area, Nordhouse, perhaps the Jordan? Any ideas welcome.
Dean L
Thanks for posting Dean,
I am really looking forward to this trip.
School will be in session so I wont be able to come up… Keep offering, I'm midwest and like Michigan scenery alot.
Maybe next time Matthew,
@asdzxc57Locale: MI
I am following this thread. Will it be a weekend thing?
It most definitley be a weekend trip Tim.
Hope you can come along.
Any other takers.
@detroittigerfanLocale: Ann Arbor
Possibly, but my September schedule is tricky, so I don't want anyone to plan around me. But keep me posted!
@aldoleopoldLocale: Great Lakes
"Persons wanted for hazardous journey. Small wages, bitter cold, long months of complete darkness, constant danger, safe return doubtful. Honor and recognition in case of success"
No this isn't a Shackleton expedition, but a friendly weekend trip in Michigan. Anyone interested?
Reply Imperial Trans-Antarctic Expedition Headquarters, No 4 Burlington London England, or just a PM will do
Very good Mr Shackleton.
@asdzxc57Locale: MI
Stephen — Yah I am in. I gotta test some new gear too. Lets get a few miles in before we stop.
If someone wants a lift from Detroit/AA/Lansing let me know.
Nice one Tim.
@shawnmLocale: Michigan
Hello all. I found this thread a bit late, but if anyone is planning a short trip in October, please let me know.
I just joined and it's nice to see some representation from the Mitten State.
Hi Shawn,
Welcome to Bpl.
We will definitely be having another trip later this year.
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Graffiti is not funny.
Its not a joke.
Extinguishers are not fun.
They are serious.
Using an extinguisher to paint a wall is an act of pure anti-social behavior.
So is telling someone how to do it.
Its not a joke.
Extinguishers are not fun.
They are serious.
Using an extinguisher to paint a wall is an act of pure anti-social behavior.
So is telling someone how to do it.
Step 1: Get a Fire Extinguisher
First, find yourself an extinguisher. It cannot be a red extinguisher, it must be silver or chrome so that you can see your stupid distorted reflection on the side of it. It also can be identified by the "bicycle tire" valve on the top near the handle/trigger. You can often find these in industrial buildings and large school buildings.
Step 2: Empty Your Extinguisher
Now, spray out the funky aged juices from within the extinguisher. Make sure it is empty and out of pressure before opening. Open using a large wrench.
Step 3: Fill the Extinguisher
Get a bucket of water based paint. Decide what color to use. I recommend finding something that is dark or that is very light. Humanoids are likely to choose colors close to neutral gray to use on their homes and businesses to keep things calm. Go For Contrast. MAKE A FUNNEL and pour 3/4 of the paint into the empty extinguisher. fill a full bucket with water, AND USING THE FUNNEL,pour into extinguisher now containing paint. Close the beast aka seal the chamber. Tighten the top nut and shake vigorously.
Step 4: Pressurize the Extinguisher
Take your filled organ to a gas station and get some change. You can pressurize an extinguisher with any sized pump you want. I've fully charged one using a dinky fuckin nike bike pump that was shaped kinda like a vibrator. But gas station air compressors are the quickest and are often manned by overworked immigrants who are barely conscious. Fill the extinguisher with air. You'll feel the paint begin to severely grumble and gurgle. This acts to mix the paint and water once again. Keep the pressure on for approximately 3min. I often will often fill it with air until the compressor turns off.
Step 5: Paint With Your Extinguisher
Once you've reached your target make sure to check the nozzle on the hose for any dry paint or material that may block the flow. Test spray a few dots on the sidewalk to double check. Now the faster you move the better. It will replicate a hand drawn scribe if you are quick and calm. If you go to quick though you'll blow it and if you go too slow you'll run out of ammo.
TIPS: using different ratios of paint, water, and air will result in different types of spray,
more paint and water, and less air will give a thinner line.
More air than paint and water will result in a larger spray but will run out of paint very fast.
TIPS: using different ratios of paint, water, and air will result in different types of spray,
more paint and water, and less air will give a thinner line.
More air than paint and water will result in a larger spray but will run out of paint very fast.

Excellent, thank you. I will fill mine with goof-off graffiti remover to remove the vandalism in my area, or maybe gray paint to cover it over.

sick widiit

I've seen your comments on a bunch of pages I've viewed. you tag?

On Ebay I sell them seller ID Allmercy just do the advanced search by seller and put my ID in and buy one or two or ten.
i went to your e*** store and i noticed the ones you have are the small sized ones . do you have little ones only ? i want a big one .
iv' been looking all over for this information and wouldn't you know i found it here on instructables ! great ible , great art , just great thanx !!!
things my crew does is to help people know about the bs and lies thay dont know or see an griffiti for me is the best way to show that
Even more ridiculous, get glow paint, fill this thing with it and hit walls, makes everything look like aliens exploded there.
I don't get it. You support troops and love america, but then you deface the property? Those troops are defending the very thing you are trying to destroy? To get my side of the story straight - i don't support troops, and i support complete coloration of all walls everywhere (even houses & private property) but I don't go bombing houses or churches simply out of respect. Complex issue but you seem like you have no idea why / what you are doing.
No one with an ounce of self respect would ever go out and bomb a church or house. It is in the graffiti book(not an actual book but it is a PDF/passed on by word of mouth.). The whole intention of this book is to make it clear to any toys on where to tag/get up at. Yes I used hip lingo but use google if you don't understand.
Katsu you are the man.
ayye im livin in australia and i cant find a chrome one is there a another one that i can get ?
"You can often find these in industrial buildings and large school buildings" Are you suggesting I first steal a fire extinguisher and then turn it into a giant can of spray paint, then go deface someone's property? I hope you get caught, I really do.
id rather look at graffiti than concrete, brick, plywood, steel shutters, or just about anything else gray and boring.
That's fine, but if you alter someone else's property without their permission, it's vandalism. It doesn't matter if you recreated the Mona Lisa on the side of an office building, if you didn't have the owner's permission, it' s still illegal. (so is stealing fire extinguishers, btw) I don't have a problem with graffiti style. I live near a seawall (pictured below) where it's o.k. and even welcomed that you paint something on the wall so long as it's decent and not something incredibly stupid like "steve wuz heer, b**ches", which makes up over 95 percent of the graffiti you see.
Well...I don't know what graffiti you look at, but whenever our crew is out tagging and we see one of the "Steve wuz heer, b**ches" we paint over it. Though we almost never see anything like that, or anything offensive for that matter. We're a crew with morals, we don't tag private property, we don't tag over anybody else's tags or graffiti, and we try to make it a challenge. Now stop giving it a bad reputation.
It's cute that you say you're " A crew with morals ". If you alter ANYTHING that is not personally yours, you're committing a crime. Say for example, you paint an overpass, or a public fence. Who do you think has to pay for that crap to be painted over? If you guessed our tax dollars, then you're right! Furthermore, I don' t know how you define " private " but if you're tagging a business, then that business has to then pay for someone to paint over it. Nobody WANTS graffiti on their business and the city doesn't want it on public property either. They don't leave it up there because they like it. They leave it up there because they can't afford to keep painting over it. You know you're doing something wrong, otherwise you would do it in broad day light, in a crowded area with no fear of getting caught. I'm not giving it a bad reputation, you are. If you love your "craft" so much, stop defacing public property and do it on a canvas or plywood and sell it, or advertise your " graffiti " services for people that might actually WANT it on the outside of their business. Quit being a punk.
There's a critical difference between crimes and morals. For example, at our school it's illegal to use anything to get around the internet filter; ever tried to do a report on Marijuana with filtered content? Doesn't work. It's also illegal to copy a CD onto your computer, or lend it to a friend so they can copy it onto their computer, and god forbid that anyone should do that. I'm pretty sure that McDonalds can afford to paint 3 square feet of wall, what with their 1.1 Billion Profit last year. I'm fully aware of the fact that taxes help pay for graffiti clean up, so, let's assume that our entire crew of 20 people, stopped tagging today. How about you do the math and figure out how much taxes would increase due to those 20 people no longer tagging. I'll even help, about $2 of each persons taxes go towards graffiti clean up. Now, if we subtract say...best case scenario, Two tags a month per person x 20 people x 30 years of tagging x 3 sq feet per tag = 43200 square feet total. $3,000,000 spent annually on graffiti clean up in my state. it costs about $20 to remove 20 square feet. 43200 x 20 = $86400. $1,000,000 - $86400 = $991360 still spent per year. 196818 citizens in my city / $86400 / 30 years = Congratulations, I just saved every resident in my city 7.5 cents a year, you have enlightened me.

FYI-We typically use washable spray paint.

Since you're so smart, you would be able to figure out that said money could be put to better use, like fixing pot holes or hiring more law enforcement, no matter how "insignificant" it is. As far as businesses are concerned, where do you think that money they use to clean up spray paint comes from? Yes they have billions of dollars, but they have to allocate some of that money toward cleaning up spray paint. Do you think that isn't reflective in their prices? Even companies like Wal Mart have to raise their prices to compensate for all their theft prevention and merchandise loss. Do I need to give you an economics lecture? Since your logic is leaning in this direction, do you not think that if you steal a $20 item from a company that makes billions of dollars per year, that it's still OK? What is the difference then in stealing the amount of money from a company and doing the equal amount of damage to their property? You know what you're doing is wrong, but you try to validate your actions by arguing that your part in it so insignificant that you disappear in the grand scheme of things. The fact of the matter is you're still contributing to the problem. I love your choice of the word " typically ". That really drives your point all the way in. You seem like a smart kid, but you're wasting your time and money ( in addition to your victim's ) on something as trivial as graffiti. You could be helping your community instead of hurting it.
I could be helping my community by cleaning up the graffiti, but it's obviously not leaving anytime soon, so why further waste time on something so insignificant? Of course the money could be put to better use, but it wont. It'll go to fund something totally moronic, like getting that CEO (who's been working Oh-So-Hard) on a private jet to Hawaii.

CEO's don't get your tax dollars, and that's beside the point. Vandalism is just as "moronic" as corporate selfishness. You can, I'm sure, find a constructive means of rebelling against the system. You can help your community in other ways besides painting over your own graffiti, like feeding the homeless, becoming a tutor or entertaining old people in nursing homes. If you want to keep discussing this, PM me, this is getting long.
very keri,
you talk about how being a "crew with morals" is ironic because its breaking a law. but morals aren't set by laws. If iBurn believes that walls are boring and graffiti is a form of expression he is right. you know what looks worse than graffiti? giant walls patched with white that covers once beautiful graffiti. and also, almost every graffiti artist who believes it to be an art covers explicite, crude, or gang related graffiti. art and music have now become industries such as THE MUSIC INDUSTRY. which is wrong. music and art shouldn't be bought and sold like commodities, they are meant to be solely freedom of expression at its purest.

Two things about this argument are subjective: morality and beauty. That being said, I believe breaking the law is immoral. I also believe that deliberately hurting other people is immoral. In this instance, if you vandalize public property you're hurting your community by defacing it and wasting their money. I also think that scribbling your name on a building w/ a fire extinguisher is garbage, not beautiful. It's expression alright, but it's not expressing anything deeper than " I'm a tasteless, inconsiderate moron." I'd say about 90% of the adult population agrees with me on those points, including your mother. If you want to ride on " freedom of expression", then go ahead, but if you get caught and you have to clean up your mess, then you'd better do it with a huge smile on your face.
I'd just like to point out how ignorant anyone looks when they suggest that illegal = immoral, which you clearly claimed.

I mean, not that the rest of your viewpoint on the world wasn't closeminded already, but this just takes the cake. If you don't understand why believing "breaking the law is immoral", then I'd just like to point out that that means you disagree with every single resistance effort against any kind of government for all of mankind's history.

In other words, does this mean you disagree with the rebellion in going on in Egypt? Or other resistance movements, the underground railroad, Ghandi's against Britain occupation, etc. Oh, no, I know, you only disagree when they're violent and mean. But please remember that not all governments work under freedom of speech.

And also that street art isn't violent.

Lastly, I'd just like to point out that yeah you stupid f*ck morality and beauty are subjective, you're the dumb b*tch who's been trying to claim that they weren't and it's a fact that "grafitti is wrong" and now you're turning around and claiming "oh no n*gga dats subjective yo". Holy sh*t you're f*cking stupid.

But please, let my insults be used as justification for me not being worth responding too, like I know you'd try and pull.

So I'd just like to conclude that your viewpoint boils down to this:
1. Anything that is not legal as defined by the government is inherently morally wrong.
2. Morality is subjective, unless we're talking about what's legal and what's not, then it's objective based on the govt's opinion, no matter what.
3. Beauty is subjective, except when I don't want it to be, such as deciding what is legitimate expression or just moronic, or if some nice, children-appropriate fish on a wall are better than political commentary or pop art.

Disclaimer: Double standards are very much expected.
Because I doubt you believe Joyce's Ulysses or Shakespeare's Twelfth Night or many other commonly banned or bowdlerized books were immoral crimes that are a blight on society and while beauty is subjective, still can't be considered an art form because you say so. Except you don't, see: double standards.

My suggestion: Lay off the Fox News a tad, honey. Or don't, if you're not good for anything else, at least you guys can give everyone else someone to have a good laugh at.
I'm going to tell you a few things that you may find interesting. I'm an atheist. My family is not atheist, but they're not particularly religious either. I was raised to be kind to others and to respect other people, therefore, when I see someone being hurt, I get upset because I have compassion. Behavior that is hurtful is widely accepted as being immoral. There is no debate about graffiti being hurtful. It is hurtful. Most people don't understand why, and there are those few people who know it is hurtful, but still do it because they care more about themselves than others. I understand the difference between civil rights and vandalism. No one is going to stand up and die for their "right" to graffiti, though I'd love for graffiti to become legal, because then it would lose most of its appeal.

I will admit that I am having a hard time taking you seriously because, based on your reading comprehension and subsequent argument, I'm envisioning an angsty teenager who is cruising instructables instead of doing his homework. Do you see how I insulted you without one swear word? Do you see how you don't care that a perfect stranger called you immature and stupid? If you do, then you'll understand why I'm not taking anything you said personally.
you know what? your right. i should never curse in an argument. Its immature and it makes my point harder to get across. And of course graffiti is not legally right, but i morally feel its a good form of anonymous self expression, and i understand that that does not mean everyone should feel that way, i am not offended by what you said, you stated your opinion well.... wait a second. i just realized. was that directed towards me or chubbthehippo. its a little hard to take someone called "chubbthehippo" seriously. well thank you for disagreeing without being ridiculous. regardless of if it was directed at me i can often get really mad in issues that im passionate about. such as when someone yesterday said its "not okay to be gay" i became so overwhelmed with their views being so ridiculous and hurtful that it becomes hard for me to properly organize my thoughts.

Jose, my Feb 7th response was toward you, but that last one on May 2nd was for chubbthehippo. I'm still giggling at his ridiculous argument and assumptions about me. Anyway, I don't see anywhere that you cursed, though I just woke up and I don't care enough to go back over everything with a fine-toothed comb. My argument will not change. Vandalism and stealing are hurtful, graffiti is not a victimless crime. If you're going to graffiti in the name of self-expression, then you should accept the moral and legal consequences of your actions. No one is going to change my view on that subject, so I don't know why I keep coming back to say the same thing. I suppose I'm trying to help the world a little by attempting to convince a few people to stop stealing and vandalizing property. Maybe I have, maybe I've wasted my time, but at least I have tried.

I'm agreeing to disagree with you, Jose. How's that?

May 8, 2011. 9:10 AM - Oct 4, 2007. 10:56 PM. That is now close to 4 years. In this time have you gained any awareness that Graffiti and other forms of Hip Hop make up an entire culture of, somewhat, like minded induviduals who get together and try and make something of what, at most times, seems like quite a pittyful existance?

You have been trolling for said time claiming we are nothing more than plain and simple criminals. You could not be more wrong. Graffiti is much more than stealing a firey from an abandoned and de-commissioned building (yes, risking our own lives and no others). It's about seeing things change from a whole new point of view. You migh even be suprised that some of my mates live quite happily playing xbox and painting walls for generous amounts of money. Heck, they may even play PC games, run miltiple websites that host over 500 people worldwide at 0 cost to the client, travel the world just to visit other Graf Hotspots or simply for fun, appear on TV, radio, billboards, create advertising campaigns or simply view pages like this. Apart from playing games or viewing this site how many of the above mentioned have you accomplished?

I may not be the brightest spark, but hell, I know that we are from from what you see. Far from overpasses and fences. Our work holds place on the walls of some of the richest people in the world. Just because it is different, has style and also has a very interesting history.

Troll me as you will. I'm just here to make a point. I'll continue to "Steal" and be a "Criminal" (I guess) until you can finally wrap your head around the fact that you are no different to us, we just found a great way to express ourselves out in the world. People tell us wrong, people are slowky changing their minds. We will always stay strong. Just remember for that every tag you see, it's the backbone of what you may one day consider "Art".

Good day to you. I'm sure you'll be quite bitey as per usual in your response. I'm sure to get a good laugh as will all the others who have viewed and had a good old laugh at the brick wall (nicely whitewashed ready to be shot with fire extinguisher) in front of your face when looking at any form of graf.
The original comment I posted was for the vandal that steals fire extinguishers from schools and then squirts his name on a public surface. That is not art. It will never be art. Ancient Romans scrawled their names into buildings, and it's still not considered art. It's just old vandalism. Gang tags are not art either. That's the equivalent of a dog peeing on a fire hydrant.

As I said before, culture, art or not, it's still vandalism and it's still illegal if you intentionally alter or damage something that you do not have permission to alter. If you don't care that you're hurting a community by costing it money to paint over your "art", then fine, you're the one who has to deal with the legal and moral consequences. If you're being commissioned as an artist to do your work, then seriously good for you.

Love,
Bitey
I am a CEO of a company that owns one commercial property. The City we are in passed a law making it illegal to own a building that has graffiti on it. So instead of boarding a private jet, I get in my Chev Aveo (which is insurance salvage that I repaired), drive to the paint store, buy another 5 gallon bucket of paint and go paint my building again (nine times in five years). It makes no difference if the graffiti is good art or illegible gang signs it costs me quite a bit more than the 7.5 cents you calculated. Not all commercial buildings are owned by big faceless corporations and graffiti on anything that wasn't done with permission hurts people.

good one paint isnt that expensive its the labor hell ill paint over graffiti for 2 dollars a tag
thats not graffiti.... its fish painted on a wall

Buy a fire extinguisher on site www.aptv-spb.ru
i think its a nice concept but the results seem alittle sloppy. if you dont care much about detail i guess it would be fine though.
who cares about detail if you could write your name 4 stories tall!
comment war ..huh? crew with moral means the bombers that dosen't steal paint and stuff. does not bomb on privete porperities. and that is a good thing. but come back to my mind who give a damn bout that? each person has their own point of view. some said is good some said is bad. just relax... do what you do best. go bomb it.
+1 more.
thats cool and all but ill stick to rustoleum pilot markers and shoepolish mops
i did it with a red one but i put my own shraderl valve on it i did some stuff with water to test and it works great!

Ok, you don't want to go and do the extinguisher thing.

 You want more control and you want to make your tools yourself.

 Read this: https://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-build-your-own-Sembrador-de-Terror-Terror-/

 And go big.

thts amazing, now i dont have to carry 10 cans of the same color

I don't think Keri was suggesting that only a crew of 20 stop defacing public property. To assume that her argument only applies to your (iburn) crew is insane. I love graffiti, i think it looks better in most areas when it is actually good and not some gangster tag crap. Thats just ugly. It doesnt make it legal however and no matter how much you love it, it is still illegal. The argument she is making is that everyone stop defacing public property. Now i cant do the math on that one, but it is a hell of a lot more than the cost your crew in causing. Its not ok just because a big business can afford to deal with it. Thats just your way of feeling ok about defacing it. Graffiti has a bad name from the ugly graffiti that is on public property. I think most people like the way true graffiti art looks, it's just rude to deface someone elses stuff without permission. Having said that, I think allowing good graffiti on approved public canvases would be good for the graffiti artists and good for the city to add some flavor. Our public system is corrupt yes, and money is stolen, yes, but not every dollar that is saved is just stuffed into somebody's pocket. What the hell do you think pays for the busses and metro systems to be tagged. Is that money stolen from politicians? How about police, fire, road maintenance, etc...? Is all of that money getting skimmed off the top? Surely some is, but most of our money does go into public service. Private business is a different matter, but if everyone had your attitude, Wal-Mart and McDonalds wouldnt be in business. IBurn, you sound like someone who is probably tagging real art, that is a plus, but others dont. Your crew might be responsible, with "morals", but others aren't. This isnt about you and your crew, its about the issue of public defacement as a whole. Graffiti on publicly approved areas are often very nice, the perfect place to express your art and for it to stay up for people to see and to give your art a good name in society. It is hard to fight this battle for the graffiti artists when there are plenty of others out there just set on defacing something that is not already tagged.
People say that tagging is the ugly side of graffiti. Maybe it is to some people. But think about it this way, there are some ugly girls out there but i choose to get to know them before i judge. Alot of you do not know about graffiti, so you can't judge. and to callmeshaun: you may not thinking that you writing your name is art, but i have spent year drawing my name possibly tens of thousands of time on paper and elsewhere. I have developed the style and shape of the letters, and i have not even skimmed what some people can do with simple one colour tags. So please don't judge if you don't know about the commitment it takes x
1. It also takes a lot of commitment to be a terrorist 2. I do know about graffiti: I have to walk by it every day, have to clean it off my school, and carry polite conversation with the losers I know are tagging Those who graffiti do it simply for the adrenaline thrill, not because it makes great art (and there are studies that back me up).
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Brek Shea: nervous because he's not ready
The last forward DC got from NY was Francis Doe, and that didn't go all that well.
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When is Ronaldinho coming to the Galaxy? Do they have to let Donovan go first?
Oh great, more blind Michael Bradley defenders! Who claims he didn't have a great World Cup!??! I think even his staunchest critics would admit he was absolutely fantastic and the US team's best player.
What does that have to do, however, with wanting him to get subbed out when he is playing terribly, or to give Jones and Edu some time together as the CM pairing?
As I mentioned previously, the MB haters had their moment years ago, before Bradley turned into a player that should, more often than not, be on the field for the USMNT. Now they have largely disappeared, replaced by people (like me) who don't think he should be guaranteed a place on the team, regardless of his form.
Unfortunately, we now have MB uber-defenders, who still think the first group is around and blindly defend him, arguing against nobody that his World Cup performance was world class (which it was).
Quite entertaining, actually, to see the back and forth over the years.
Your post is quite reasonable but I'm in the camp that thinks that MB's "challengers" so to speak, aren't that impressive yet. Actually neither is MB or for that matter Jones.
Next to Rico, Sacha, or Beckerman, yeah Jones is a god but he's probably an average to above average international in World Cup terms at this point.
In the Poland and Colombia games I wanted to see how well Jones and MB linked up. And if that wasn't working out I was still perfectly happy to see it play out over the course over two games. It takes time to develop understanding. I prefer a player get an extended run alongside another player to really see what is going on. And MB has earned being first in line at this point.
It wouldn't have bothered me if BB had subbed out MB with Edu or Holden to see how they hook up with Jones but there will be chances for that in the future.
I see Jones as a proven above average club player who is likely going to be a very good international. MB is getting there, Edu's World Cup was pretty average and Holden's basically non existent.
All four of these guys still have quite a lot to prove at the international level so it strikes me as nuts to go crazy over MB having two games in a row with Jones. It's like going crazy over the fact that Fitzpatrick beat out Trent Edwards for the Bill's QB position of the Bills.
Bradley is the youngest, he is more proven at the the club level (BMG bottom dweller? Yeah they are 5 points behind Bayern and higher in the table than Schalke [Jones and Raul], Cologne and Stuttgart. Some good players there) and the international level.
Edu is getting established but Rangers play in a very substandard league and Holden's been doing well for 9-10 games at Bolton, hardly long enough to get that excited yet. Those two have a ways to go before they can be called established internationals.
I expect Holden will ultimately be Jones' best partner, not because he's miles better than the other two but because his skill set may fit in better alongside Jones.
You also make reasonable points. However, saying there is time for others to play with Jones doesn't seem to follow BB's pattern. MB plays every game regardless of his form. Clearly it would be best to get Jones and MB on the field together, but against more defensive teams (especially in CONCACAF), one of them should be sufficient. Unfortunately, BB has never shown the inclination to sit MB on the bench.
It is fairly clear BB was going for the win in these past two friendlies judging by his selections. If that is indeed the case, why not substitute a player whose form was TERRIBLE (by almost everybody's ratings).
And saying Edu's World Cup was average is a little disingenuous. He never really got a chance to play due to BB's continual selection of Clark.
In my opinion, the foursome of Edu, MB, Jones, and Holden are all relatively equal in terms of ability going forward. The only problem is that MB is absolutely locked in to one spot, with really no chance that he won't be on the pitch. In my opinion, the only player locked in to a spot regardless of form is LD and maybe Jones after his two recent performances.
"Unfortunately, BB has never shown the inclination to sit MB on the bench.'
True but I've never had a probelm with that because he's never had a player like Jones available before. Jones is the first serious competiton MB has ever had.
I see Jones as the indispensible one of the four, at least in the next year or two. I think Edu could have challenged MB but he spent most of 2009 injured and has only very recently had a nice long consistent run with Rangers to emerge as a possible true challenger to MB, even though the SPL is really only Rangers and everybody else.
"He never really got a chance to play due to BB's continual selection of Clark."
I'd say it was Torres who cheated Mo out of more time. In the tournament overall Clark played 121 minutes and Mo played 197 minutes or about one hour more.
"In my opinion, the foursome of Edu, MB, Jones, and Holden are all relatively equal in terms of ability going forward. The only problem is that MB is absolutely locked in to one spot, with really no chance that he won't be on the pitch"
Ability maybe but Jones has a more consistent command of his skills than the other three probably because he has faced more stringent, higher level competition over an extended period of time than any of them.
I disagree with you that BB won't bench his son. I know him as well as you do which is to say not at all but everything I've read about him tells me he wouldn't let a little thing like hurting his son's feelings get in the way of his job. Besides MB is a big boy. Everything I've read seems to indicate MB is a very tough cookie. After all he went off to live in Europe and try to make it as a pro by himself, something not every teenager can do.
Hey, believe me, I hope your analysis is right. And, to be honest, I don't think BB cares about hurting his son's feelings. BB is professional, and that shouldn't be an issue. At the same time, it worries me when I see MB stink up the joint with Jones player very well, only to see them both stay on the field.
Like I said previously, by Bob's selections it looked like he was going for the win. If that's the case, he should've substituted MB since he was detracting from that goal.
In any event, it's only two games. I guess I'm a bit pessimistic due to Bob's past performance and selection. Since it seems like the full team won't be together for quite a while, I guess we'll both have to wait and see.
"At the same time, it worries me when I see MB stink up the joint with Jones player very well, only to see them both stay on the field"
If I were the manager the way I would have looked at those two games was, MB is my starter, a job he earned.
You don't pull him for substandard play especially when:
It's an experimental game
He's never played with Jones before
He wasn't playing that bad for god's sake.
If it's still like this after a couple of games and Holden, Edu and et al. are still playing at a high standard, then I think about taking his place away for a while.
Everyone accused Bradley of being slow to sub out and then in the World Cup he suddenly developed a quick hook. Well the games really mattered then. So it's clear he gives people time to work things out. And why shouldn't he?
These are all pretty much the much ballyhooed "meaningless friendlies" after all.
"Like I said previously, by Bob's selections it looked like he was going for the win."
If he wanted to win he would have played Dempsey all the way through both games and/or brought in Donovan for one or both.
If you interpret bringing in the older guys like Howard, Boca and Dolo another way to look at that is that he was bring them in to provide leadership and a point of reference to guys like Lichaj,Shea and Jones. Dolo and Boca in particular are captains and European vets and if I were a guy new to the team I'd appreciate having people like them around in training to learn from. Everyone wants to write those two off for 2014 but we may need them, at the very least, to get us there and who knows what kind of shape they will be in then.
As for Howard, he's always made me nervous and I'd just as soon leave him off the team and let Guzan develop into the #1. Then again, having Howard and Freidel in front of him seems to be a good motivator for Guzan so maybe I'm wrong about that.


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Situated in Thiruvananthapuram, this hotel is within 1 mi (2 km) of Trivandrum Secretariat and Shri Padmanabhaswamy Temple. Thiruvananthapuram Zoo and Napier Museum are also within 2 mi (3 km).
A 24-hour business center and a meeting room are available at this hotel.
Hotel Features
Room Amenities
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The Capital - Trivandrum City
Hotel Amenities
Hotel Amenities
This 3-star property offers access to a 24-hour business center and a meeting room.
- Total number of rooms - 37
- One meeting room
- 24-hour business center
Room Amenities
- Shower only
- Private bathroom
Hotel Policies
Check-in time starts at noon
Check-in time ends at noon
Special check-in instructions:
Check-out time is 11 AM
Children and extra beds
- Children are welcome.
- Pets not allowed
You need to know
Extra-person charges may apply and vary depending on property policy.
Government-issued photo identification and a credit card or cash deposit are required at check-in for incidental charges.
Special requests are subject to availability upon check-in and may incur additional charges. Special requests cannot be guaranteed.
No rollaway/extra beds available
No cribs (infant beds) available
Please note: To comply with local law, no alcohol will be served in this property on the first day of every month. For more details, please contact the office using the information on the reservation confirmation received after booking.
Hotel Name
- Capital Trivandrum
- Capital Trivandrum City
- Capital Trivandrum City Hotel
- Capital Trivandrum City Hotel Thiruvananthapuram
- Capital Trivandrum City Thiruvananthapuram
- City Trivandrum
- Trivandrum Capital
- Trivandrum City


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