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Video: Scott Pelley grills Haditha Marine Frank Wuterich on "60 Minutes"
posted at 9:17 am on March 19, 2007 by Allahpundit
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The segment ran 25 minutes, and I swear, Pelley had this look on his face the whole time:
The full interview is viewable in the sidebar at CBSNews.com. Given how this appearance was being touted on their website, Wuterich's defenders were obviously hoping this would be his chance to win in the court of the public opinion before the case went to trial. Pelley had other ideas. Here's 90 seconds of his questions that should get you hungry to watch the whole thing.
The clip's been heavily edited, needless to say.
If you don't have 25 minutes, load the first clip at CBS (it's in two parts) and skip ahead to seven minutes in. That picks up with Wuterich talking about the white car filled with young Iraqi men that he noticed right after the roadside bomb went off. It's their killings, not the house-to-house clearings that came later, that investigators have said are the most incriminating. Wuterich claims he suspected them of having planted the IED and shot them as they ran away, but one Marine and an Iraqi soldier who were there say that the five were simply standing by the car in a line when he gunned them down. CBS showed a photo of the bodies last night, which to my knowledge is the first time it's ever been published. I screencapped it for posterity.
Interesting fact drawn out by Pelley that I hadn't known before: Wuterich had never seen combat until this incident. It was the first attack on his unit in his first deployment.
Update: Neal Boortz calls Pelley's interview "one of the most outrageous displays of media bias ever."
Update: Uncle Jimbo at Blackfive watched the interview too and sees bad days ahead for Wuterich. Not because of the shootings of the Iraqis in the car but because of the assault on the first house:
The mistake he made was assaulting the first house without being certain that is where the fire they took came from. Once the decision was made that those buildings represented the threat they were facing, the rest of the actions they took were brutal but proper. If Wuterich's story is true he may be guilty of a horrendous decision to assault the first building, and that may be Dereliction of Duty, but it is not Murder.
Wuterich describes the assault at the beginning of the second clip at CBSNews.
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Wuterich claims he suspected them of having planted the IED and shot them as they ran away
I don't know if the Marines operated under different Rules of Engagement or that they had changed since I was there, but the RoE stated that you could not shoot at anyone without a weapon.
The insurgents somehow found out about this and would shoot at us, drop their weapon and run off. There wasn't a damn thing we could do about it.
JasonG on March 19, 2007 at 9:27 AM
I saw most of the interview, and Wuterich did not seem confident in his innocence at all.
I have a feeling he'll be in jail for a long time.
freakagriep on March 19, 2007 at 9:28 AM
Not to imply that he actually is innocent, but he himself claims he is.
freakagriep on March 19, 2007 at 9:29 AM
Not to imply that he actually is innocent, but he himself claims he is.
He is innocent as he hasnt been proven guilty. I have a feeling it was as typo and I apologize in advance if it was.
JasonG on March 19, 2007 at 9:31 AM
RoE stated that you could not shoot at anyone without a weapon. JasonG on March 19, 2007 at 9:27 AM
Jason, what did you understand the ROE to be when entering a building/room with suspected enemy inside? I am curious what if any changes since I was in Country.
Jason, what did you understand the ROE to be when entering a building/room with suspected enemy inside?
They were pretty loose, to be honest. Fighting in a MOUT situation is pretty hectic so you can't really enact harsh control measures. You were still supposed to make sure you acquired a 'legal' target before firing. Other than that, if you thought there were noncombatants in a house you couldn't use frags.
JasonG on March 19, 2007 at 9:42 AM
To those posters here questioning his innocence, THIS IS A WAR, don't forget that. The condescending attitude of this talking head is infuriating, he talks as if he was there and witnessed it. This marine is being hung out to dry in the name of appeasment of the leftist anti-war crowd. I fully support our men and women in uniform, it is because of them that we haven't had another 9-11 YET.
NeverSubmit on March 19, 2007 at 9:49 AM
We were under small unit understanding. Shoot if your gut told you you were in danger, be honest, and if it's a hairy situation, your command would support you.
My unit had some strange engagements, but my Colonel stood up for all of them.
It really is better to be judged by twelve then carried by six.
Ringmaster on March 19, 2007 at 9:53 AM
Borttz: MARINE GUNNED DOWN ON 60 MINUTES
Haditha Marine Sergeant Frank Wuterich's trial may be months away, but last night '60 Minutes' reporter Scott Pelley decided to court
martial him on national television. It was one of the most outrageous displays of media bias ever. In case your memory needs refreshing, the Haditha incident was a situation in Iraq where a group of Marines, led by Wuterich, cleared a house that they thought was being used by insurgents. It turns out it was occupied by several women and children and all were killed. They've been charged with murder and their trial is expected later this year.
Wuterich says he's innocent. That the way he cleared that house was consistent with his training and that if Marines start asking before they shoot, they die. That's war…that's how it works. People die…and sometimes those people are innocent. It's called collateral damage. So anyway, all of this wasn't enough for the smarmy, condescending Scott Pelley on '60 Minutes' last night. He interviewed Wuterich and naturally, immediately took the side of the enemy.
Pelley called it a massacre…wrong. A massacre would be walking into a house, ordering everybody out, and shooting them in the head. This was a house-clearing operation, something that's done to root out insurgents in Iraq everyday. But Pelley continued his interrogation of the 25-year-old Wuterich…questioning his actions and mocking him because he hadn't seen combat prior to Haditha.
Ironically, with Pelley's interview..he may have created quite a bit of sympathy for Frank Wuterich. Just what we expect from the mainstream media…always blame America first.
TheBigOldDog on March 19, 2007 at 9:54 AM
Regardless of the marine's innocence or guilt, CBS is guilty here of exploiting an unfortunate incident in the war as anti-US military propaganda for the enemy. That's where people should be looking at jail time, in my book.
Halley on March 19, 2007 at 9:54 AM
Just how many troop-bashing segments are enough for the 60 minutes crew? It's become an endless cycle of questioning and condemnation, to the point where it makes me ill. Since the surge is rendering improvements on the ground in Baghdad, CBS felt their perspective of failure would be challenged by any good news. To counter this, CBS took the route of reminding everyone we're still the bad guys in this battle by revisiting a tragic incident that happened long ago.
This guy Pelley should be horsewhipped for his brazen, better-than-thow tonguelashing of young Wuterich. Wuterich doesn't have a month's preparation time to decide his next move like Pelley does, he has split seconds.
This segment will be played over and over again at Al Jazeera and every other Arab station who wants to portray the U.S. as the evil one in this fight. Nice work CBS, allies of the terrorist community.
At first I thought I was watching a clip of "To Catch a Predator", which no doubt was precisely the portrayal CBS wanted to deliver to it's audience.
We have met the enemy, and they are the MSM.
I spit on them, their tactics and their motives.
fogw on March 19, 2007 at 9:55 AM
I'd like to apply something directly to Pelley's forehead, and it ain't Head-On.
TugboatPhil on March 19, 2007 at 9:57 AM
To those posters here questioning his innocence, THIS IS A WAR, don't forget that
Yes, this is war, but to have cohesive fighting unit you need rules. If the ROE were not followed then those who do not follow orders need to be punished.
Please understand I feel the ROE suck and need to be changed. We fight with our hands tied and will never win another land war unless we give more power to the boots on the ground. You can not win a war run by sissies in Wussington D.C.
But Pelley continued his interrogation of the 25-year-old Wuterich…questioning his actions and mocking him because he hadn't seen combat prior to Haditha.
Maybe pelley (no caps on purpose, no respect)should suggest before sending troops to their 1st combat situation we train them in Los Angles where more Americans die than in Iraq.
Another suggestion for pelley. Embed him, put him in charge of a squad and let him be the 1st into a room so he can decide rather to fire or hand out chocolates.
I looked at the screen cap, I am pretty sure each of those dead still had their head attached.
Thanks, JasonG for the heads up about shooting and dropping the gun. Plant an IED and make sure you are not armed.
60 min is a rag, has been for decades, it belong on the check out counter of entertainment.
right2bright on March 19, 2007 at 10:23 AM
Of course he's guilty as sin!
Didn't High Justice Murtha declare them so?
STFU and drink you koolaid!
Another suggestion for pelley. Embed him, put him in charge of a squad and let him be the 1st into a room so he can decide rather to fire or hand out chocolates.
Wade on March 19, 2007 at 10:08 AM
Best idea I've heard all day. OTOH would you inflict him on a squad?
CrazyFool on March 19, 2007 at 10:32 AM
Once agains, 60 Minutes does a "Rather." Boortz is exactly right on that.
Given 60 Minutes' use of forged documents in trying to "get BOOOSH!" in 2004, given their attempt to fake a scandal involving so-called "missing munitions" in October 2004, and given their wide-open anti-war, anti-military, anti-Bush bias, DID ANY OF YOU EXPECT ANYTHING DIFFERENT?
I am no professional film editor. But I know that videos can be edited to convey anything you want them to. I know that CBS can make Wuterich say anything they want him to say, or make it seem so on tape.
Those of you condemning Wuterich based upon this interview, ought to keep in mind that he is INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY in a COURT, not on 60 minutes.
georgej on March 19, 2007 at 10:32 AM
Just how many troop-bashing segments are enough for the 60 minutes crew? It's become an endless cycle of questioning and condemnation, to the point where it makes me ill.
Personally, I found the timing interesting. Wasn't this anti-war weekend? Not that "60 Minutes" would ever stoop to such tactics, mind you.
Hmm. You have to wonder why Wuterich's lawyers would allow this interview to happen. Its not like they wouldn't know what CBS would do with it or how they'd edit it.
Any of you lawyer types have an idea?
Dwilkers on March 19, 2007 at 10:42 AM
He is innocent as he hasnt been proven guilty. I have a feeling it was as typo and I apologize in advance if it was.
No, he is presumed innocent by the legal system. It is silly to say that he is innocent just because he hasn't had a trial yet.
DaveS on March 19, 2007 at 11:08 AM
This is one of the saddest things ever, and one of the most gratuitous and self-righteous displays by a journalist I've ever seen.
Wuterich: "My responsibility as a squad leader is to make sure that none of the rest of my guys die …"
Some seem to have forgotten that bit.
Put Scott Pelley in battle and see how he fares. In the meantime he should be fired from his job. Disgusting.
Drum on March 19, 2007 at 11:34 AM
Has Scott pelley ever been in a war….I think not….he seemed to have no clue as to the fear for their lives these men face every day.
Mellen on March 19, 2007 at 11:44 AM
Real ROE's.
1) Better to be judged by 12 then carried by 6.
2) When taking an objective, occupy by force.
SPIFF1669 on March 19, 2007 at 11:58 AM
Dang hit the worng button.
3) Look left and right, they're all you got and you're all they got.
De Oppresso Liber
SPIFF1669 on March 19, 2007 at 12:01 PM
This segment will be played over and over again at Al Jazeera and every other Arab station who wants to portray the U.S. as the evil one in this fight. Nice work CBS, allies of the terrorist community.
We have met the enemy, and they are the MSM.
I spit on them, their tactics and their motives.
fogw on March 19, 2007 at 9:55 AM
Spot on!
What is the defenition of "Traitor" again?
In law, treason is the crime of disloyalty to one's nation. A person who betrays the nation of their citizenship and/or reneges on an oath of loyalty and in some way willfully cooperates with an enemy, is considered to be a traitor. Oran's Dictionary of the Law (1983) defines treason as: "…[a]…citizen's actions to help a foreign government overthrow, make war against, or seriously injure the [parent nation]."
PinkyBigglesworth on March 19, 2007 at 12:12 PM
I watched it or rather I watched most of it. I got so angry and started hollering at the TV that my wife turned the channel. That idjit reporter acted like Sgt Wuetrich was wearing a badge and was serving a restraining order or something. That pompous, self righteous, ignoramious reporter wanted to sound so high and mighty well here is a test. Go embed with some troops and then volunteer to be the first to go through a doorway. He even showed footage of what happened in Fallujah, that was witnessed by a couple of the Marines in Wuetrich's squad where a Marine got killed entering a room. Sorry they are soldiers not social workers. You don't want them fight like they were trained to, then maybe it is time to get them the hell out of there because personally I am getting sick and tired of seeing so many of them put on trial.
I have nastier things to say but I will leave it at that.
/For now
LakeRuins on March 19, 2007 at 12:16 PM
I wonder what is worse in this scum bag reporters mind? The purposeful killings of 65,000 japanese civilians during the politically correct WWII or the accidental killing of civilians in the politically incorrect war against terror?
Jeeze these people are just clueless.
csdeven on March 19, 2007 at 12:18 PM
CBS….did anyone expect something different…..
JasonG….thanks for your service…
robo on March 19, 2007 at 12:18 PM
I haven't watched the clip, and I'm not going to. I haven't been able to watch MSM news coverage, except Fox, since 9/11. I am so angry about the lying, traitorous, propagandistic attempts to bring low my country that I literally am sickened if I catch a glimpse of these asshats on my tube.
In other words, what do you expect from them. They are the enemy.
HerrMorgenholz on March 19, 2007 at 12:22 PM
Wutterich' lawyers were idiots if they thought he'd get a fair hearing on CBS. What were they thinking?
Go embed with some troops and then volunteer to be the first to go through a doorway
jjjen on March 19, 2007 at 12:39 PM
Scott Pelley is a disgusting human-being. That was the most blatantly biased and disengenous interviews I have ever seen given to a man who had seen his fellow Marine cut in half. Mistakes were obviously made, but premediated "murder" of women and children?!! Give me a break!
Pelley has decided that Sgt Wuterich is guilty and that's that.
No trial needed.
Go directly to jail. Pelley has spoken.
angryamerican on March 19, 2007 at 1:00 PM
Wuterich looks like a Man who is sorry his actions led to innocent deaths, but is assured that he made the only decisions he could have to protect his Men. I think he will do fine in court.
Another nail in the MSMs coffin as far as I'm concerned. The day a nuclear weapon goes off in the US after the Patriot Act has been repealed, Muslims have been given special privileges to make us all suffer at their whims, and sharia law becomes the order of the day in NYC, will be the day it would not be wise to be a MSM reporter. Giving aid and comfort to the enemy who just killed 4 million of your fellow neighbors, friends, sons and daughters won't get you a cup of coffee as a reporter if you are recognized on the street as someone who supported jihadists before the massacre. Mr. Pelley should consider where he lives and whom he is supposed to be reporting to.
Subsunk on March 19, 2007 at 1:21 PM
I just wish Fox would show Family Guy at 7:00pm Sunday directly opposite 60 minutes. They'd lose more audience.
Andy in Agoura Hills on March 19, 2007 at 1:53 PM
Subsunk on March 19, 2007 at 1:21 PM
I don't think so. The msm will convert to islam because they have no core values except to their own survival.
csdeven on March 19, 2007 at 2:06 PM
Pray this man finds peace and pray that the prosecutor has the same talents as OJ's and Blake's. I don't condone wanton murder….but I don't believe in railroading a scared man with a gun we sent out to shoot terrorists. I don't have all the answers but one of them isn't putting this man in prison.
Limerick on March 19, 2007 at 2:11 PM
If a crime was commited let the person pay for it. If one wasn't let the person walk. It's as simple as that, and it applies to marines as well as it does any other citizen.
Nonfactor on March 19, 2007 at 2:46 PM
Thw whole thing with this Haditha incident is that there is nobody that can say for sure who killed those civillians. Some may have been killed by the Marines but I am willing to bet a dime to a doughnut that some, if not all of them were killed by the retreating jihadists. It is a tactic they used in Fallujah, except there they normally had them chained to the floor or the wall making it harder to deny.
Some of them may have been killed by the grenades thrown into the room, but what I was getting so pissed about was the way in which the interviewer was asking the questions. He was not worried about the sargeants' psyche at all. Hell if he would have wound up in a rubber room taking all kinds of drugs 60 Minutes would have had a ratings bonanza.
I wish these reporters had questioned OJ in this manner, and maybe 50% of this country wouldn't think he was innocent. But what am I thinking after seeing puff piece after puff piece done with some of the most brutal dictators alive who are all just "misunderstood".
Hang the American but let's not be so hasty to judge those who only want to kill us.
LakeRuins on March 19, 2007 at 2:50 PM
Hang the American but let's not be so hasty to judge those who only want to kill us.
LakeRuins on March 19, 2007 at 2:50 PM
A keg and a 50 lb bag of rinds to LakeRuins FED-EX, priority delivery, once a week for a year.
Limerick on March 19, 2007 at 2:53 PM
Oh and Mr Pelley I know this is the Army manual but read it first before asking your stupid ass questions
FM 90-10-1An Infantryman's Guide to Combat in Built – Up Areas
LakeRuins on March 19, 2007 at 2:54 PM
LakeRuins on March 19, 2007 at 2:50 PM
The thing about cases like this is that you never know for sure so long as nobody claims someone else did it or there are no witnesses, which is why I think they'll get off unless someone claims they know who killed someone.
Nonfactor on March 19, 2007 at 2:56 PM
They will not get off. Too much hate in this country for itself. This men will be forgotten five minutes after the verdict is read. Fonda and Soros and Hagel will have a cluster fark just to celebrate.
Limerick on March 19, 2007 at 2:59 PM
The thing about cases like this is that you never know for sure so long as nobody claims someone else did it or there are no witnesses, which is why I think they'll get off unless someone claims they know who killed someone.
Nonfactor on March 19, 2007 at 2:56 PM
sgt Wuetrich has several things working against him.
1) Senator Murtha wants his hide on the wall of his office
2) There is a video that was shot by a purported "human rights" group, which consisted of one guy with a dubious past.
3) There is testimony from a local doctor pointing the finger at the Marines
4) The bodies were buried and no exhumation was allowed to determine cause of death.
LakeRuins on March 19, 2007 at 3:01 PM
Anyone who is already pissed off enough, go back to the cbs site and watch the video "Pelley's Reporter's Notebook".
This jerk-off admits that the situation in Haditha was the most hostile place in Iraq towards the Marines. Watching him contort his face in disgust was a act. He is well aware that the Marines were acting completely appropriately.
csdeven on March 19, 2007 at 3:49 PM
I always write in to the networks, affiliates and the websites after shows like this. It may not ever do any good. But if eventually that reporter gets grief for the leaning way he interviews, then maybe one day I'll feel better for having done it.
serpentineshel on March 19, 2007 at 3:49 PM
No American military member should be used as a scapegoat, they are the true freedom fighters over there.
Hening on March 19, 2007 at 4:53 PM
What a downright showboat this interviewer is!
What an arrogant, rude, dishonest, biased, venomous, crude person Scott Pelley reveals himself to be. He's working on the angle that his listeners believe the Marines to be evil murderers and he is playing it up to the hilt! How disingenuous!
Sadly, this line of performance will work on the unwashed masses, the less than bright fellow citizens, and they will swallow Pelley's vitriolic pabulum hook, line, and sinker!
Show off!
Dishonest, mean spirited, hind sight is 20/20 hate monger, Pelley!
William2006 on March 19, 2007 at 6:38 PM
Sometimes you just want to choke those CBS pukes.
Actually many times I want to choke those CBS , MSM
pukes. . .
Texyank on March 19, 2007 at 6:38 PM
Scott Pelley is only thinking about repeating Vietnam and being able to claim that he was involved in breaking the Iraq "My Lai" story.
Scott Pelley and the rest of CBS News associated with Pelley's hit piece deserve a special place in hell where they assaulted by sword wielding beheading terrorists and no U.S. Marines are around to protect them.
War needs to be declared on the anti-military, anti-American left wing partisan "mainstream media." It is a curse on America.
Phil Byler on March 19, 2007 at 7:07 PM
The mistake he made was assaulting the first house without being certain that is where the fire they took came from. Once the decision was made that those buildings represented the threat they were facing, the rest of the actions they took were brutal but proper. If Wuterich's story is true he may be guilty of a horrendous decision to assault the first building, and that may be Dereliction of Duty, but it is not Murder.
This is ridiculous, no matter who said it. If utterly laying waste to whomever and whatever seems to be a deadly threat is immoral, then fvck morality. Force and fraud are plainly the virtues of war, and I despise wartime moralists, unless they're frauds.
Is there ANY WAY on God's Green Earth that HOT AIR can get an interview from Wuterich? Please concider it.
GoodBoy on March 20, 2007 at 6:36 AM
I can't believe that anybody on Staff Sgt. Wuterich's side thought this would be anything other than a hatchet job. The enemedia are a willing fifth column for those who hate us and want to destroy us–the last thing 60 Minutes was going to do was give him a sympathetic interview. Not that Wuterich and his co-defendants had much chance of a fair trial anyway. Not after that sh*tbag Murtha shot off his fat mouth and publicly declared them guilty before the investigation was even complete, claiming that he got his information from the Commandant of the Marine Corps himself.
ReubenJCogburn on March 20, 2007 at 7:03 AM
It would seem that Wuterich (and a lot of you apparently) have a lot more class than I do. I have to say, when that bastard made that comment about 'You would have murdered those children again?!', I would have knocked his teeth out.
Besides, I'm still not all that certain that the people that died were all that innocent. I do still remember the story where they talked to the kid that survived. She mentioned that she, and presumably her family, knew that the bomb was there, and they didn't warn anyone. Maybe I'm funny that way, but in my mind, if you know something is there, and you don't warn the good guys, then you are not innocent.
Wolfman on March 20, 2007 at 12:13 PM
Scott Pelley is just but one example of the low life scum that inhabit the halls of the MSM. I was so angry watching this hit job that I wanted to do some serious damage to my TV.
The original interview took place in October 2005 and since that time, the NCIS 13,000 page report has been release disputing many of the allegations made by the traitorous Scott Pelley.
How convenient that CBS chose to leave the new information out of the interview. Like the fact they were receiving fire from the house that they cleared:
(Scroll down to the comment by Darryl Sharratt)
"The WaPost claims to have a copy of the 13,000 page NCIS report. In a Jan 6, 2007 article 'Death in Haditha' Josh White uses statements from the NCIS report. In this article he identifies a Navy Corpsman who had bullets striking at his feet while he was attending the wounded, fire was coming from the direction of the white vehicle he stated. A Marine L/Cpl saw men dressed in black firing from the roof of the 1st house targeted. The QRF under the command of Kallop was receiving fire the minute they arrived on the scene. The interview provides the first evidence that an officer ordered the attack. Then the strongest testimony–Mashoot, an Iraqi Army Sgt, who was imbedded with the marines testified "he thought the attack on the houses was warranted because the entire convoy was TAKING FIRE."
Scott Pelley is a POS and there is a special place in hell reserved for the likes of him. He had no intention or reporting the facts about this case.
ScottyDog on March 20, 2007 at 12:36 PM
So, you're trying to make your case and put yourself in a favorable light publicly, so you go on — — — 60 minutes?
What the hell is wrong with the people who are supposed to be looking out for this kid, such as his lawyers and his superiors in the Corps? It's getting to the point where I don't know who disgusts me more — media scum like Pelley, Democrats, liberals and so on, or the pathetic gutless simps who are supposed to be the ones on our side.
Un freaking believable.
tomk59 on March 20, 2007 at 2:20 PM
Let me get this straight….. John Kerry admits to -and gives a subordinate an 8 mm camera in order to record his murdering of an unarmed, young Vietnamese boy, in a loin cloth who was running from the scene of a fire fight that occurred 15 minutes before he arrived ashore,… and he gets a bronze star.
This poor shmuck drops a few questionable characters located in an area from which he was receiving incoming fire,in the heat of battle, and he faces the brig. God help us.
Alden Pyle on March 21, 2007 at 2:35 PM
Kerry – bronze star
Wuterich – charged
Alden Pyle, the difference is that John Kerry is anti-war, while Wuterich is anti-terrorist. The media knows the difference, and they have chosen sides. Somebody is going to have to pay for what the media is doing to us and to those who protect us. I hope someone is keeping an archive of things like this, for use when people finally get tired of being sold down the river by these scum.
drunyan8315 on March 21, 2007 at 8:02 PM
War is hell. Sucks to be the dead Iraqi scum. Oh well.
Dismissal of charges or eventually Pardon is in order.
VinceP1974 on March 21, 2007 at 8:38 PM


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"Fukushima residents' urine now radioactive," Staff Writers, Jun 27, 2011, The Japan Times
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is this plan being carried out?,
like the U.S. NAVY dumping the cores into the bottom of a 5 mile deep trench that runs along the ocean floor and then using clean nukes to cave in and collapse a few million tons of the trench on top of the multi-hundred ton blobs ??
Subsidence charges from multiple nuclear weapons buried by drilling rigs 500 ft (152.4 meters) below and inland of the string of six reactors must be engineered to slide the reactors into the sea. This method works best if there is igneous or volcanic rock behind the subsidence charges, to "bounce" the blast and pressure wave from and "push" the trashed reactors area of the beachfront into the sea.
Specially equipped submarines can then pick up the pieces of reactor cores from under water. The surface of the ocean blocks the escape of radiation. The submarines must work fast to limit killing more of the Earth's Oceans.
Veterans Today calls on President Obama to authorize the disposal of the six reactors at sea and the collection of the deadly radioactive metals with submarines. We conclude there are no other options left.
and of course,
thanks, Bob Nichols
North America, etc. etc.
"What would you do to help heal the Japanese landscape around the failing nuclear reactors?"
Plant native deciduous and conifer trees, along with hyper-accumulating mycorrhizal
mushrooms, particularly Gomphidius glutinosus, Craterellus tubaeformis, and
Laccaria amethystina … G. glutinosus has been reported to absorb – via the mycelium – and concentrate radioactive Cesium 137 more than 10,000-fold over ambient background levels. Many other mycorrhizal mushroom species also hyper-accumulate.
Continuously remove the mushrooms, which have now concentrated the
radioactivity, particularly Cesium 137, to an incinerator. Burning the mushroom will result in radioactive ash. This ash can be further refined and the resulting
concentrates vitrified (placed into glass) or stored using other state-of-the-art
storage technologies.
concentrate radioactive Cesium 137 more than 10,000-fold over ambient background levels!
Thousands upon thousands of imported dosimeters have been damaged beyond repair, apparently by X-ray examination by Japan Customs, probably deliberately to prevent correct readings, and we can only surmise that the dosimeters distributed to Fukushima schoolchildren are wrongly calibrated to show low readings.
The thought may be horrific, but I am sure that the Health Ministry is already preparing for a massive wave of abortions to prevent the birth of "monster babies". Much of the next generation is already doomed.
I still cannot understand why a 9.0 earthquake 100kms from the coast producing a 10m high tsunami (exclusively) at Fuku-D did not level most of structures across Japan. Maybe a gap in my understanding of this event.
Also intigued by the reports of MIT that satellites detected the atmosphere heating rapidly before the earthquake http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/26773/?ref=rss
However, the effects are upon us all now and if we cannot contain the radiation from Japan and all the other ageing nuclear weapens/power facilities across the world we had better start trying to preserve organic DNA off-planet.
(Good to see you back on VT Bob)
Hi Secular,
Yea, that is a troubling and confusing report. On the one hand, it seems supportive of the Livermore Nuclear Weapons Lab's Haarper gizmo in Alaska and various spots around the world.
However, to me there is a huge poison pill in the report that discomboobles the entire thing.The authors claim that Radon Gas appeared in large quantities days BEFORE the 2,000 Megaton equivalent event. It is also popularly called 9.0 on the Richter Scale, but for now let's stick with the weapons analogy.
Radon is a large molecule of radioactive gas and not very "buoyant" in kilometers of salt water. In fact, we can calculate how fast the alleged escaping radon gas would make it to the surface of the sea off Japan.
Long story short, that dog won't hunt. The Radon gas can't make it to the surface in time to be detected. In addition, radon gas is released after an earthquake. Stop right there. It is a no go. What is the purpose of the story and who benefits? Ya think maybe it is just a "story" to induce Fear and loathing in the population?
So, Secular, I classified the story as crap.
BTW, Livermore used to have a scale model of the Haarper in a field outside of town in the South Bay just outside of San Francisco. I'm reminded of the maxim "Livermore doesn't do anything that can't be weaponized."
I think radon is the red herring as radon is not the only cause of atmospheric ionisation. I also think this story confirming the heating up of the atmosphere above Japan probably wasn't expected to be of interest to many. I reckon the author was stuck on radon as being the only cause – the large qantities of the stuff discovered days before should have read 'huge ionisation discovered days before' There were substantial quakes in the days before…http://cordis.europa.eu/fetch?CALLER=EN_NEWS&ACTION=D&RCN=33207
Hold on just a bit, Secular! Let's think about what the story actually said!
Maybe we will re-write it later. For right now, if one part is False, then the other part falls on its MIT face.
Don't you just love this stuff? When you start with the basic science, there is no place for these guys to hide.
9.0 on the Richter Scale, the same amount of Energy as 2,000 One Megaton Bombs is the 4th or 5th largest Earthquake in recorded history. This was huge.
Japan has Earthquakes all the time. It is "perched" on no less than 4 continental plates. Their movements are unbelievably complex. So, when you talk about "substantial" earthquakes in Japan, use some numbers if you still have them.
People seem to have a frightening way of accepting things , whilst two or three generations from now most of that stuff will still be about doing its harm , chances are that the people will have little remembrance or knowledge of what went on .
Well, this particular disaster has a really nasty twist to it, neodsa. Let's get you updated to reality.
This version of invisible dust is radioactive and attracted to chemical substances like phosphates that are found in large amounts in people.
Especially in human's brains, bones and gonads or reproductive organs – balls producing sperm and ovaries releasing eggs.
As a result of enormous releases of DNA changing radioactive metals, gases and aerosols the visible gorked and often retarded human evidence will be everywhere. These gorks will be a growing and ever larger part of a shrinking population.
Worse, it is a done deal. Pres Obama failure to Chernobyl or nuke these trashed reactors is the only thing he will be remembered for and people will curse his name for whatever time there is left.
So, no, you are dead wrong. This is a planet changing event. Any government that does not take it into account is worse that stupid and foolish.
My opinion.
Make your point, Hack or your outta here.
Just the facts. The subject is Fukushima Daiichi.
What do you have to say?
Doh forgot to link the 2nd excerpts
From the same article
Perhaps the environmentalists of the Corps grew tired of waiting decades to realize their dream of a "restored Missouri River." Perhaps these elements heard the warnings and saw in them an opportunity to force an immediate re-naturalization of the river via epic flood. At present, that is impossible to know, but to needlessly imperil the property, businesses, and lives of millions of people constitutes criminal negligence. Given the statements of Corps personnel, and the clear evidence of their mismanagement, the possibility that there is specific intent behind their failure to act must be investigated without delay.
In recent decades, many universities have steeped their Natural Sciences curriculum in the green tea of earth-activism, producing radically eco-centric graduates who naturally seek positions with the government agencies where they can best implement their theories. Today, many of these men and women have risen
high in their fields, hiring fellow travelers to fill subordinate positions and creating a powerful echo chamber of radical environmentalist theory.
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FORT PIERRE — In a series of emails sent to a Washington D.C. agency in February, Fort Pierre Public Works Director Brad Lawrence essentially predicted "a flood of biblical proportions" if the U.S. Army Corps of engineers did not start releasing water from the Oahe Dam, the Capital Journal has learned.
At the time of this writing, the Corps is scrambling for political cover, repeatedly denying that it had any advance warning of the potential for this catastrophe. The official word is that everything was just fine until unexpectedly heavy spring rains pushed the system past the tipping point.
In the same e-mail, he describes the consequences of the Corps failure to act as a "flood of biblical proportions." His e-mails were forwarded from Washington, D.C. to state emergency response coordinators nationwide. The Corps headquarters in Omaha, NE which is responsible for the Missouri river system, claims they heard no such warning from Lawrence or anyone else. Considering the wide distribution of this correspondence, and the likely reactions from officials in endangered states, their denials strain credulity.
Dear adeUK,
Totally with you. This flood was planned and caused to happen. It wasn't any "accident" or freak of nature.
The Corps loaded the cannon and pulled the trigger at exactly the right time.
Hmm, wondering who bribed them to do this and who benefits?
Got any ideas?
Thanks, great post.
Ahhh, back again.
Which one are you? Kelli or the wurm? You are both using the same computer address.
So, level with us and tell us your connection. Otherwise you are history here.
Bob Nichols
Not sure what you are talking about Bob I have no connection to the wurm. Please carry on with your excellent work.
I guess we should hang the banksters now while we still have our strength!
Well, that is one way to look at it, I suppose.
Well, No, not really. The whole Northern Hemisphere is contaminated, the Southern Hemisphere will be in a year.
The sick, depraved animals who worship nuclear anything have pretty much destroyed the planet for the rest of us.
Bob Nichols
Won't Fukushima ever stop?
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After more than ten years of experience as Microsoft Services consultant, I have finally decided to start posting in this blog my "notes and thoughts" about the software technologies I work with.
Why didn't I blogged until now?
- Because I felt that, in my work, I rarely go deep inside in a single aspect, giving priority to the rapidly evolving needs of my engagements (…so: is there a sense to write about something I know just partially or, let me say… probably as much as I need?)
- Because I felt that, in my work, I often do a mash-up of information taken from other's blogs (please, dont't read this sentence as a candid declaration of egoism…! I just want to say that most of my thechnical knowledge is already described on the Internet… Well: quite normal, as I am not a researcher…!)
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Seriously speaking, I think that my everyday "discoveries and experiences" in my consultant's engagements are worth to be described. The challenge is to find the time to do it in a somehow useful way, specially without stealing to much time to my family…
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By DAN KARELL
As the first-choice Mexico National Team arrived in Brazil in preparation for the Confederations Cup, the FMF (Federation of Mexican Football) announced the 23-man squad for this summer's Gold Cup, set to take place in July in the United States.
With the Confederations Cup and a squad at the Under-20 World Cup, it's a highly inexperienced squad, with just two players, forward Omar Bravo and midfielder Fernando Arce, have more than 12 caps with El Tri to their name. One of the biggest stories out of this group is that experienced forward Oribe Peralta was left out of the squad, instead sitting in the potential list of players who could come in after the group stage.
Three players on the squad have ties to the United States. Forward Isaac Brizuela and midfielder Miguel Ponce were both born in California, though they grew up in Mexico, and goalkeeper Cirilo Saucedo, who plays for Club Tijuana, has an American mother, though the 31-year-old doesn't hold an American passport according to reports.
Here are some more stories to get your Thursday started:
Though on the cusp of completing the deal weeks ago, Chelsea finally came to an agreement with German side Bayer Leverkusen on Thursday over the transfer of 22-year-old midfielder Andre Schürrle.
The deal will likely be completed in the next two days as the two clubs complete all the legal and international documentation, as well as Schürrle passing a medical and signing personal terms with the London club.
Now with the news of the move nearing completion, the rumor mill will turn into overdrive over current Chelsea midfielder Kevin De Bruyne, who spent last season in Germany on-loan with Werder Bremen and has expressed a desire to remain in Germany next season.
Schürrle, who has made 24 appearances already for the German National Teal with seven goals, is one of the brightest stars in the Bundesliga the last two years since moving to Leverkusen two seasons ago from Mainz. Last season, Schürrle scored 14 goals in 43 appearances in all competitions, including the Bundesliga, German Cup, and Europa League.
The Spanish authorities have lodged a writ in court against Barcelona midfielder Lionel Messi and his father Jorge over tax fraud of more than $5.3 million.
No charges have been filed by the court, but according to reports out of Spain, the Messi family have a network of companies in Britian, Uruguay, Switzerland, and Belize that have been used to hide income from the Catalonian tax officials.
Messi released a statement on his Facebook page, saying: "We have just known through the media about the claim filed by the Spanish tax authorities. We are surprised about the news, because we have never committed any infringement. We have always fulfilled all our tax obligations, following the advice of our tax consultants, who will take care of clarifying this situation."
If charged and eventually convicted, however unlikely that possibility, the penalty for the charges would be up to six years in prison.
Gareth Bale is easily sits in the top ten of the most-wanted list of soccer players this summer, and according to reports out of England, Paris Saint-Germain are willing to break the bank to bring him on board.
The Player of the Season in the Premier League for Tottenham last season as voted by the players and media is valued by Spurs at more than $133 million, but in a bid to hijack a potential transfer from Real Madrid, PSG are happy to pay above and beyond that price, which would make Bale the most expensive transfer in soccer history.
Cristiano Ronaldo went for about $125 million in 2009 when he moved from Manchester United to Real Madrid. United forward Wayne Rooney has also been rumored to be on his way to PSG in a large transfer fee.
Bale is set to be offered a new contract by Spurs this summer as they hope to hold on to the Welsh international, who can build on his career high 21 goals in 33 Premier League appearances this season, and potentially bring the club a Europa League title next season as well.
Cesc Fabregas has shot down any claims of him leaving Barcelona and moving back to the Premier League. (REPORT)
AS Roma have signed French coach Rudi Garcia, formerly of Lille, to be their next manager. (REPORT)
Manchester United winger Nani is considering a move to either Juventus or Monaco this summer. (REPORT)
Malaga have replaced outgoing manager Manuel Pellegrini with former Real Madrid boss Bernd Schuster. (REPORT)
With Andre Schürrle out the door at Bayer Leverkusen, the club have signed South Korea international Heung-Min Son from Hamburg. (REPORT)
What do you make of these reports? Surprised that Peralta was left off the Gold Cup squad? Do you see Schurrle getting a regular place in the side? Do you believe Messi committed tax fraud?
Share your thoughts below.
b Shurley
Interesting note I saw on the Univision link was that Carlos Vela has agreed to return to el tri for the September and October Qualifiers. Should make for an interesting addition to a team lacking some serious offense at the moment.
Vela is the best forward on their team. He's good all around and doesn't have deficiencies like the other forwards (Chicharito, Dos Santos, De Negris, Peralta) who play for El Tri.
After having all these scoring problems they now figured it out and invite him back. L O L
Socom 2
Carlos Vela to mexico is like Shawn Parker to US
Too bad we are losing to two dual nationals in the gold cup to mexico
Miguel Ponce
Isaác Brizuela
Disappointed again on klinsmann not reaching out to dual nationals
How do you know he didn't? Just because you "reach out" doesn't mean you get them. I was very pleased to see 10 of the 11 players starting in Seattle started in MLS.
How is Vela to Mexico like Parker to USA?
Old School
From what I've heard, his main issue is with the current manager. No guarantees that he'll even be there in Sept/Oct, so this "rejoining" was probably inevitable anyway.
He had a great season in Spain, too.
Story out of Spain is that someone is playing politics with Messi to make it seem like they're trying to balance budgets back home.
Aside from the fact that Spanish law prevents retroactive application of new tax rules, the Spanish tax decree ('Beckham Law') came into place before Messi obtained dual citizenship. Thus, his only taxable income and @sset valuation, as a wealthy foreign professional, would be that which originated in Spain.
I figure they know that–hence the no charges.
The Imperative Voice
If the rumors are true I don't see how playing for ABV at PSG is any different than playing for him at Spurs, other than a different assortment of supporting characters. And you're still playing for an overrated coach.
Old School
Why is he overrated?
Seems more like when hate > becomes opinion > becomes fact.
Overrated is a harsh word but AVB is probably a little overhyped, and certainly a growing manager. He did well at Porto but underperformed at Chelsea, losing control of a talented locker room. The fact that the sand squad has won 3 trophies since his removal doesnt bode while either. He then moved to Spurs and took a team that finished 4th a yr ago, signed a bunch of players, and then finished 5th. With a Bale playing out of his mind too. Not exactly the stuff of legends.
Now why C Ronaldo would move to PSG and play under AVB there and not Spurs is obvious. PSG have CL football, a larger wage structure, and better players than th North London club.
Old School
"He did well at Porto but underperformed at Chelsea, losing control of a talented locker room."
To me, that was a Chelsea problem mixed in with the inexperience of AVB.
He wanted to inject new blood into the team and lost the veterans as a result. However, that team is incredibly aged and he was right in that objective.
Mourinho is about to gut the majority of it and has already publicly stated even the likes of John Terry has no guarantee of a spot on his team.
AVB is inexperienced and still cutting his teeth but inexperience doesn't mean "overrated". He's a talented manager…any additional hype isn't a product of him, nor is it his fault.
I followed Tottenham regularly last season and have mixed feelings on AVB–both good and bad thoughts about his coaching abilities. But I gotta say, I think the bad outweighs the good. IMO he made some questionable coaching decisions that cost Tottenham at least two precious points needed to gain a Champions League top four finish in the Premier League.
I think it is a big mistake for United to let Nani walk, whoever signs him is getting a world cl@ss winger.
Michael F. SBI Mafia Original
As a Man U fan and someone who has watched Nani each of his 6 season at Old Trafford, I'm fine with letting him go. He has lost the form he had two season ago and he is such a maddening player who consistently makes the worst decisions. His lack of soccer intelligence can't be made p with pace. Simple as that.I appreciate all he did for us but it's time to move on.
Now if we could go back and keep Pogba, that would be something.
Old School
I don't think Nani's attitude is worth his talent. He seems toxic to chemistry and appears to overvalue his own ability.
I think the stigma of being the next great Portuguese behind winger Ronaldo doomed his growth, ultimately.
I'd sell him in a heartbeat.
I don't know about world class but Nani definitely isn't at the same level as the other wingers like Ribery and Robben.
Nate Dollars
i was originally laughing at chelsea for going after schurrle, because yeah, another attacking mid is what they need. but if he can enable them to move oscar back to a center mid role (where i think he's going to be world-cl@ss), then maybe…
Alright Mexican Liga fans, how does Mexico's Gold Cup roster look?
IMO it seems we have much better & lager pool of players to fill in in different tournaments then any other Concacaf teams. We have experience & young experience players who have sniffed the A-team for the most part, unlike Mexico's B and C teams. Which are either inexperience or too old.
There's 10 players in the W.C qualifiers that will be in the Gold cup as well. But only 4 players are starters right now, well, at least for the most part. So,.. let's say there was another tournament we had to play in this summer and can't use A-team in qualifiers or the B-team in the Gold cup. Here is another option of players we could assemble together for a C-team to play a tournament:
I can see Adu, Agudelo, Ream, Lichaj, Chandler, Gyau, Bunberry, Morales, Spector, Cherundolo, G-john, etc… These 11 players alone are better than most Concacaf teams and definitely better than a Mexico C team and probably B-team as well imo. This of course would be a U.S C team… I would add some MLS C mids and a few goal keepers and we are ready to roll. Agudelo up from with Adu and Gyau on the wings. Morales, John, Dolo, Lichaj our back line with Timmy as an option at right or left.. I'd paid to see these four and in the back in the trio up front…. We are definitely better imo. Chivas and Morelia have good Mex-ballers, but nothing that I consider National team quality.
The point is, we have a stronger selection of players if we would put 3 teams together on paper. Any Mexican players playing abroad automatically gets them on the NT. That is not the case for the U.S.. We have more Euro players that can't sniff the NT at times because of playing time. … That is not the case for Mex players playing abroad. … We should win this Gold cup, if not, it will be a disappointment.


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