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Sep 26, 2011 at 5:47 am #1279817
hi everyone,
like to know if people think it's useful (after flying in) to spend day one acclimatising above 3000meters, if on one day two you're back below 2000m?
my trip plan involves being back up above 3000m on day 3 and starting the serious hiking then.Sep 26, 2011 at 6:22 am #1783618
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Where are you planning to do this hiking, John, and what will be your total number of days at altitude? What is the highest you will go? We could help if we knew exactly what your trip plan is.Sep 26, 2011 at 7:32 am #1783629
i'm spending a total of about 12 days, most of which should be above 3000m and sometimes 4500m or higher.
of course i could just drive through the <2000m location on the way up and spend time there on the way down. that would mean spending most of day 2 in a car above 3000m, with the full-day hiking still starting on day 3.
thanks for the adviceSep 26, 2011 at 7:35 am #1783632
i've done extended hiking above 4000m before (in the same part of the world).
But last time I wasn't flying in, and from what i've heard the fact that you don't suffer altitude sickness on one occasion is no guarantee it won't affect you on another.Sep 26, 2011 at 8:58 am #1783646
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John, it seems that if you could manage to spend 2-3 days at 3000 M, you would be well on your way to adjusting to the elevation. But like you mentioned, altitude sickness can hit you differently (or not at all) on different trips. I couldn't really tell from the trip description what the different days' hiking will entail, but it seems like you will be above 3000-3500 M most of the time, with the passes being over 4500 M. I think that once you've spent 4-5 days on the trail, climbing high and sleeping lower down, that you should be OK. I would suggest for you to do a couple of days at that 3000 M elevation before you do any serious trekking.
We need for Bob Gross to offer his suggestions, as he has spent a lot of time doing that same sort of trekking. But it certainly appears to be an interesting trip you ahve planned.Sep 27, 2011 at 10:45 pm #1784281
Geez, I don't know. Everybody has their own elevation threshold, the point where you might get triggered into some high altitude problem. After their first trip or two, everybody should know what their own threshold is, or at least to be able to guess what it might be.
The old "climb high, sleep low" rule is awfully conservative, but it works.
The medical experts would all advocate that you take a very conservative approach and take layover days. But I don't know how that fits into the schedule.
Once you get above 6000 meters or so, you can throw out whatever rules you thought you understood. Up there, the least little thing can throw you off your game.
–B.G.–Sep 28, 2011 at 12:18 am #1784290
One thing that needs to be discussed is what to do on a layover day for adaptation.
I think a big mistake is to do nothing. Similarly, a big mistake is to do some exhausting activity for hours. Personally, I've found the best thing is to do some very light activity, like at 25% of your limit, and only for an hour or so at most. This should act as a trigger to warn your body that some altitude changes are coming up, so your body needs to get with the program. For me, that means about an hour of easy walking.
A light dose of exercise like that should set you up for a good night of sleep. On the other hand, if you are mentally stressed out, you may not sleep well. But you probably do not want to fool around with serious sleep aids. The most that I take as a sleep aid is 3mg or 5mg melatonin.
Also, during that time, your body might be a little fragile, so you don't want to stress it with an excessively strange diet.
As a general rule, few people will fool around with Diamox for those kinds of elevations.
–B.G.–Dec 14, 2011 at 7:28 am #1811973
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FWIW, from Zubieta-Calleja, et al.'s article "Altitude adaptation through hematocrit change":
Adaptation = Time/Altitude, where High altitude adaptation factor = Time at altitude (days)/Altitude in kilometers (km). The time in days required to achieve full adaptation to any altitude, ascending from sea level, can be calculated by multiplying the adaptation factor of 11.4 times the altitude in km.Dec 14, 2011 at 9:04 am #1812008
So spend a month for 3,000 meters and two months for 5,000 meters? That's matchs what I've read and experienced for FULL acclimatization meaning your red blood cell count has fully adjusted to your new environment in addition all the quicker adaptations. Few of us, though, get to take that much vacation time.
And as Bob Gross mentioned, above 18,000 feet, all bets are off. Below 18,000, more time means gives you more acclimatization. Above 18,000 and you just get worse, your body doesn't heal and "climb high, sleep low" is the only way to go.
But for our more typical trips – going to 3 km or 4 km from sea level, your blood pH, beathing tidal volume, and an initial thickening of ones blood happens over the first few days. While it takes 6 weeks to be 100% acclimatized, I'd rate myself at 20% for having spent the night at the trailhead, and 40% at 3 days.
Two easy to remember data points on atmospheric pressure:
At 7,500', there's 75% of sea level air density.
At 18,000', half the atmosphere is below you (50% sea level pressure).
"Put your own oxygen mask on first. Then assist your companion."Dec 14, 2011 at 9:04 am #1812009
"The time in days required to achieve full adaptation to any altitude, ascending from sea level, can be calculated by multiplying the adaptation factor of 11.4 times the altitude in km."
This muddies the water, because there are really two types of adaptation going on, short-term and long-term. Long-term can require two or three weeks, and that has to do with making more red blood cells to carry more oxygen. Hematocrit includes red blood cells, so an increase in hematocrit can normally measured over that time, but you don't promote hematocrit to aid adaptation. Some people try to take dietary iron supplements to help this, and it is mostly unnecessary.
Short-term can require just a day or two, and that has to do with increasing your natural respiration rate and depth, and possibly an increase in heart rate. It has nothing to do with red blood cells or hematocrit. There are several minor factors that help this out, like adapting to a better sleep pattern, adapting to a better diet, etc.
–B.G.–Dec 14, 2011 at 9:38 am #1812038
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I have a couple additional questions on this topic….
Let's say you hike up to around 12,000 feet and then spend a few days there before hiking over an 18,000 foot pass over the following two days. Then over the next 3 or 4 days you hike back down to around 3,000 feet. If you plan to continue on from there to reach about 13,500 feet do you have to restart the acclimatization process?
Also, in the scenario above, is it unusual to show no symptoms of AMS the first full day at 12,000 feet, but then feel the symptoms late in the second day (around 48 hours after arriving at that altitude)?Dec 16, 2011 at 8:27 am #1812817
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This muddies the water, because there are really two types of adaptation going on, short-term and long-term.
The article referenced treats it as three stages rather than two types. The abstract follows:
Adaptation takes place not only when going to high altitude, as generally accepted, but also when going down to sea level. Immediately upon ascent to high altitude, the carotid body senses the lowering of the arterial oxygen partial pressure due to a diminished barometric pressure. High altitude adaptation is defined as having three stages: 1) acute, first 72 hours, where acute mountain sickness (AMS) can occur; 2) subacute, from 72 hours until the slope of the hematocrit increase with time is zero; here high altitude subacute heart disease can occur; and 3) chronic, where the hematocrit level is constant and the healthy high altitude residents achieve their optimal hematocrit. In the chronic stage, patients with CMS increase their hematocrit values to levels above that of normal individuals at the same altitude. CMS is due to a spectrum of medical disorders focused on cardiopulmonary deficiencies, often overlooked at sea level. In this study we measured hematocrit changes in one high altitude resident traveling several times between La Paz (3510 m) and Copenhagen (35 m above sea level) for the past 3 years. We have also studied the fall in hematocrit values in 2 low-landers traveling once from La Paz to Copenhagen. High altitude adaptation is altitude and time dependent, following the simplified equation:
A complete and optimal hematocrit adaptation is only achieved at around 40 days for a subject going from sea level to 3510 m in La Paz. The time in days required to achieve full adaptation to any altitude, ascending from sea level, can be calculated by multiplying the adaptation factor of 11.4 times the altitude in km. Descending from high altitude in La Paz to sea level in Copenhagen, the hematocrit response is a linear fall over 18 to 23 days.Jan 15, 2012 at 6:46 pm #1825136
There is no actual answer that is going to help you. Every one is different. After a day or two at 10,000 feet, I can run a regular three mile as I do at home. And hiking around at 12 or 13 is no big deal. But, I have seen other fellows who have been in better shape than I who have to be almost sedentary for 4 days. You are just going to have to hit the ground and see how things go, you may be able to achieve your expectations, you may not.
Crap, I didn't realize how old this post was. Sorry.Jan 15, 2012 at 8:05 pm #1825158
Yes, it is an oldie but goodie thread.
Back around 1981, there was a U.S. medical expedition to Mount Everest. Sure, they had people trying to focus on bagging the peak. Also, they had researchers in physiology and related sciences, and they had research subjects for experiments in altitude adaptation. The subjects were broken up into three groups. Group A were the serious sea-level athletes, e.g. marathoners. These were typically people with a rest pulse of about 35-45! Group B were the weekend athletes. They were backpackers, skiers, climbers, and such. Typically they did some jogging or cycling to try to stay in shape. Group C were the couch potatoes. They were typically medical students and such who had no particular sport or exercise plan. The researchers had bicycle ergometers set up at different camps in order to measure physical output and to measure who was adapting and who was not. They even took the test gear up to the South Col (26,500') for tests! I believe that test was disrupted by weather. However, which group do you think adapted to elevation best?
It was Group B who adapted the best. Their output was good at the lower elevations and did not degrade too terribly as they got higher. I would guess that many readers here fall into that category. Most had been to moderately high elevations before, and they seemed OK with going again.
Next best was Group C, the couch potatoes. Their output was only moderate at the lower elevations and degraded somewhat as they got higher.
Worst was Group A, the marathoners. Their output was odd. It was almost as if their bodies were perfectly tuned for sea level air pressure, and as soon as they went up higher and higher, it was like an old car with a carburetor that got vapor lock. They could not adapt much at all. Go figure.
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Edit: 1981, not 1980Jan 15, 2012 at 9:14 pm #1825181
Bob: Interesting. That matches my experience with a smaller sample size – the people I've hiked with.
The only people I've treated for AMS were quite atheletic – sea-level cross-country runners, a guy who could do a one-armed pull-up (1 in 5,000 of the population), etc.
I've always done well with altitude and am closest to the "weekend-warrior" – I've always been active every day but only do 1-2 days a week of bigger stuff. My pulse rate and body fat have certainly never been in the elite range. Which I suppose is good, because then I can help those elite guys off the mountain.Jan 17, 2012 at 2:43 pm #1825901
Hey, I can do that; I mean a one armed pull-up. Really. Used to be super strong, very athletic; now just jog three or so times a week. The pull up thing is still possible; it is usually used as one of the crazy bets to win a beer nowdays.Jan 17, 2012 at 4:16 pm #1825930
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@ouzelLocale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
"There is a message here." Perhaps, but I'm not sure one could draw general conclusions from it. I had an interesting discussion one time back in my climbing days with a physician who had gone on an Everest expedition and run into some folks who were interested in the subject under discussion here, only their focus was on actual climbers. Their findings agreed with your study as far as marathoners are concerned. Climbers who also trained for marathons tended to experience more difficulty adjusting to high altitude consitions. However, they also found that those who trained for 10 K races tended to fare very well indeed. This in turn agreed with my own anecdotal experience: There was a guy up here in Seattle, name of Dave Hambly, who summited Cho Oyu in his late 40's without supplemental oxygen and went on to serve as a support climber on the expedition that put the first US woman on top of Everest. He reached 27,000' in that role. He was also an excellent masters 10 K runner. My own experience adds to this body of evidence as well. I ran 10 K's at about the same level as Dave, although we never went head to head, and was a support climber on a 1991 expedition to Ama Dablam at altitudes up to 20,000'. We were carrying loads up to 40# over technical terrain, and I never had any trouble with altitude sickness other than Cheyne Stokes Syndrome, which was merely a nuisance. I was 50 at the time. My point is that perhaps the experiment was not asking the right questions to get a more general idea about who and who does not adapt well to altitude.Jan 17, 2012 at 4:42 pm #1825939
>"Hey, I can do that; I mean a one armed pull-up."
Ty, That is impressive. And pretty rare. While I can do pull-ups and a fair number of them if I condition a bit, when I put myself on a bathroom scale under the pull-up bar, I can lift only little over half my weight with each arm. Meaning I'd have to be twice the arm strength to do what you do.
With all the hiking I do and very little upper-body work, I'm better equipped below the waist. Maybe I should put that on a T-shirt?Jan 17, 2012 at 5:04 pm #1825945
"Perhaps, but I'm not sure one could draw general conclusions from it."
One general conclusion is that just because a person is a world-class athlete at sea level, that does not make them a world-class climber at 20,000 feet.
For something a little closer to home (or a little more down-to-earth, literally), there is the 2008 Mount Whitney paper on the Determinants of Summit Success and Acute Mountain Sickness.
–B.G.–Jan 17, 2012 at 5:13 pm #1825951
David said, "I'm better equipped below the waist. Maybe I should put that on a T-shirt?" . . no, I wouldn't put that on a T-Shirt; as luck would have it, you'd most likely get offers from the exact opposite of who'd you'd like. That would be funny, (watching from a distance anyway.)Jan 17, 2012 at 5:23 pm #1825954
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Marathoning is an activity that focuses purely on aerobic capacity. The body becomes finely tuned for maximizing the amount of oxygen intake and to convert that oxygen into energy. But what happens when you remove oxygen (ie altitude)?
I wouldn't be surprised if the weekend warriors and 10K runners, due to their more general performance makeup of both aerobic and anaerobic ability utilize more anaerobic processes to overcome the lack of oxygen. Sure marathoners have phenomenal aerobic capacity, but no matter what they will be operating in hypoxic conditions at altitude in the short term. Their bodies are not adapted to using anaerobic metabolism to overcome this.
Now given adequate time (say the necessary month or two) to 100% adapt to altitude, I bet marathoners with their increased aerobic capacity would do quite well at altitude. But in the short term it makes sense that anaerobic metabolism kicks in while adapting.
This is all conjecture and hypothesis, but it seems logically and worth a grant or two to investigate a vacation!Jan 17, 2012 at 5:26 pm #1825956
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I saw a vanity plate on a motorcycle that said, "7 uncut" and I was puzzled for a bit.
Then I considered that I was in SF (my hometown) and it all clicked.Jan 17, 2012 at 7:23 pm #1826013
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"One general conclusion is that just because a person is a world-class athlete at sea level, that does not make them a world-class climber at 20,000 feet."
I wasn't aware from your previous post that we were talking about world class athletes. A pulse rate of 35-45 doesn't necessarily make one a world class athlete, myself being a case in point. My pulse rate was in the high 30's-low 40's when I was racing, is still in the high 40's occasionally, and I most definitely wasn't going to the Olympics. Same went for a lot of runners I knew. In any case, doing a test on an exercycle at 20,000', or whatever altitude they conducted the test at, does not make the weekend warrior a world class climber at 20,000' either. I will go so far as to speculate that a world class 10K runner would have a far better chance of becoming a world class climber than a weekend warrior. Too bad the test wasn't set up to include a broader spectrum of the high end aerobic community, e.g. 10 K runners, cyclists, etc. I think that would have told us a lot more about what predisposes to success at altitude.
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Polish Radom P64 Pistol - 9x18 caliber - Good - Very Good - $179.99
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Famous Polish quality in a P-64 Makarov Pistol. 9x18 caliber, 6 shot, semi-automatic. Comes with 2 mags. These are in good to very good condition. Mechanically they are all fine and they all seem to have nice bores, but some will have more holster wear than others and you can expect a certain degree of the bluing to be rubbed off, especially on the sharp edges. In the worst case,you should expect 70 % to 80 % blue and you may also see a few light scatches. This is actually nit picking our own product because overall this is a very nice lot. Most of the wear we are seeing is right on the front edges of the slides where they have gone in and out of leather holster. No pitting or heavy grease, these are clean and ready to fire.
The remaining pistols we have in this current batch are all very consistant and as such we are not offering a hand select option at this time.
Note - Each pistol comes with 2 mags, however, please know that some of the secondary mags may have some minor cosmetic damage or chipping in the polymer floor plate. One good mag guaranteed with each pistol, please consider second mag as just thrown in (though we do believe it will be functional). They are As-Is. We do not warranty for these mags.
Historic Polish P64 pistol manufactured in the famous Radom Plant, semi-automatic, includes two 6rd mag, 9x18 caliber,
This is the last of them, so buy one while you still can.
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Mine was just delivered today
Mine was just delivered today (6/10/15) and is in very good condition. A little bit of holster wear, as expected, but a solid corrosion free pistol. Very happy with Classic Arms and my dealings with this purchase. Pics here http://imgur.com/a/PD0r8
Mine had surface rust, and an
Mine had surface rust, and an extremely large import mark. Just did not feel like the price charged.
Sorry to hear. I recently
Sorry to hear. I recently picked up one of the Southern Ohio excellent condition ones for $249. Description below. Very happy with it but I will admit I dont recall the size of import mark and not at home to check. Essentially looks new. I have been scammed by classic a couple times. Never buy from them again. Although, their description is kind of crappy. I would never buy after reading that description. Basically, they seem like they are covering their bases.
The P64 is a Walther PPK style compact pistol produced for military and police forces. This semi-auto has chrome bore, decocking safety, all steel constuction, loaded chamber indicator and 2-6rd magazines. Excellent condition 9x18 makarov caliber pistols.
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• Chrome Bore
• Loaded Chamber Indicator
• Magazine:
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(1 matching, 1 extra)
• Accessories:
- Used Holster
- Cleaning Rod
Yes, after that I went to
Yes, after that I went to Southern Ohio and got one of their 92s models. Looks brand new. Might get a P64 if I take a bath on the old one. Not going back to classic.
Dang.. I want a 92s.. Got an
Dang.. I want a 92s.. Got an FFL? I only have C&R :(
No more hand select? That
No more hand select? That probably means the "Very good" are gone. Kudos to Classic. Other less credible sellers would probably pocket the hand select fee and ship the best of what remains.
I know AIM and J&G both turn
I know AIM and J&G both turn off the hand pick function once the hand picks are sold. They are separated when the shipment comes in. They are not hand picking on the spot. That system doesn't actually make sense. AIM for example considers certain features when choosing hand pick.. For example, back when mosins were a dime a dozen, "Tula" or matching might be a hand pick reason.. I am sure they consider the condition too.
Sometimes when new shipments come in, there are nothing worth calling a hand pick!. ;)
Good to know. Very often you
Good to know. Very often you read they hand pick the "best of 5" which implies they are doing it on the fly. That's no guarantee that you'll get a nice piece. Descriptions like this seem like weasel words to me.
Go with AIM.
Go with AIM.
Or spend $200. for a new
Or spend $200. for a new Zastava M series pistol & shoot 9mm Luger
Yes but thats not C&R
Yes but thats not C&R eligible. So You'll be spending anywhere from 215-225.
If you buy this dont expect a
If you buy this dont expect a collectors piece. Rather a decent shooter with some holster wear and the possibility of plumbed slide.
Yeah I agree. $150 is what
Yeah I agree. $150 is what these need to be at for the grade.
For $219 + shipping it's
For $219 + shipping it's getting near to the price of much better guns. At $150 I'll take one.
I understand you guy's
I understand you guy's concern and I agree that the description doesn't jive and smells fishy.
However, from what I've seen of MANY examples of these pistols which have been imported in recent years, I think the condition rating here applies to ONLY cosmetic condition. You're not going to see any mechanical issues, probably not any rust, should have a good bore, and the rating will probably apply only to cosmetic wear on the pistol.
I am guessing these last ones just have a ton of holster wear and are a bit ugly, but I would bet that even the most ugly will still work fine and be a nice shooter. So, it comes down to whether you think the price is worth getting a functional, yet ugly example.
I have an ugly one, I love it. I wish I would have gotten in on the perfect ones years ago that were super cheap...
I got one of these last week.
I got one of these last week. Here is my video review. Cosmetically there is a lot of wear - I would say on the bottom of the "good" scale. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BGdqgC2VYE
That is terrible! How in
That is terrible! How in their right minds can they say that looks "NRA GOOD"???
that is the status quo for
that is the status quo for classic arms
Wow, that looks like crap!
Wow, that looks like crap! Thanks for the review. Definitely should not be more than the M70a. How'd it shoot?
I try to stay completely
I try to stay completely clear of "fishy" firearms in only because the buyer typically takes it hard on the chin if his purchase turns out to be junk.
I agree for the most part,
I agree for the most part, however I for one would have jumped on this deal months ago. I had waited and waited for these things to show back up at places like SOG and Classic. A year or more went by, so I went to gunbroker.
I paid 20 bucks more than this for one that's a little ugly, but mechanically perfect. Just like I bet these are.
In the C&R/Surplus game, you win some, you lose some...
I echo One Round Shy's
I echo One Round Shy's concern about the language in Classic's advertisement. If this batch of pistols is truly "Good to Very Good," then by definition the average condition should fall somewhere between "Good" and "Very Good."
Stating within the same ad that the batch averages "NRA Surplus Good Condition" implies that some number of individual pistols are below Surplus Good, some would be considered Surplus Good, and some are better than Surplus Good. Assuming the true range falls one level below Good and one level above, this means the batch cannot honestly be advertised as "Good to Very Good." Using the NRA Condition Standards, a more honest ad would rate the pistols as Fair to Very Good -- assuming there are any examples that would truly warrant the higher rating.
To put this all in perspective, here are the NRA standards, as I have found them published on the internet:
VERY GOOD: All original parts; none to 30% original finish; original metal surfaces smooth with all edges sharp; clear lettering, numerals and design on metal; wood slightly scratched or bruised; bore disregarded for collectors firearms.
GOOD: Some minor replacement parts; metal smoothly rusted or lightly pitted in places, cleaned or re-blued; principal letters, numerals and design on metal legible; wood refinished, scratched bruised or minor cracks repaired; in good working order.
FAIR: Some major parts replaced; minor replacement parts may be required; metal rusted, may be lightly pitted all over, vigorously cleaned or re-blued; rounded edges of metal and wood; principal lettering, numerals and design on metal partly obliterated; wood scratched, bruised, cracked or repaired where broken; in fair working order or can be easily repaired and placed in working order.
Now let's revisit another statement in the company's advertisement:
"The remaining pistols we have in this current batch are all very consistant (sic) and as such we are not offering a hand select option at this time.
We simply don't think there is enough difference between the individual pistols to justify the additional charge. "
To me, there is a huge difference between NRA Fair and NRA Very Good. My guess is that if Classic sees little difference in condition from pistol to pistol, ALL of this batch lies at one end or the other. The cynic in me says it's somewhere closer to this description:
"Some major parts replaced; minor replacement parts may be required; metal rusted, may be lightly pitted all over, vigorously cleaned or re-blued; rounded edges of metal and wood; principal lettering, numerals and design on metal partly obliterated; wood scratched, bruised, cracked or repaired where broken; in fair working order or can be easily repaired and placed in working order."
Caveat emptor.
From Classic's ad: "These are
From Classic's ad:
"These are in good to very good condition."
"Some of these are a little better and some are a little worse but they average NRA Surplus Good condition."
Buyer beware: These two different statements from the same ad are not consistent with one another. Moreover, the second statement (that, by definition, 1/2 of these pistols are worse than their AVERAGE rating of NRA Surplus "Good") means that you have a good chance of receiving one of these pistols that is only in "Fair" condition.
This is spot on. Mine was at
This is spot on. Mine was at the most "fair". After a call to see if they would fix it, I was told they were not able to help. These are not very nice pistols.
anyone ever purchase one of
anyone ever purchase one of these? I am looking into purchasing one.
I called to buy, but they
I called to buy, but they would not honor this ad. They said they don't advertise here. Price is $189.95. I'm leaning toward jgsales.com for $149 without the spare mag and holster.
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It's really exciting. We'll be going door-to-door over the next few weeks to personally invite our merchants to take advantage of this great opportunity," said Lynn Fountain, Main Street director and logistical support for the conference. For $25, STAR sponsorship provides two stars identifying a business as a conference sponsor. One star will be prominently featured in the Civic Center during the conference. The other star will go in the sponsor's place of business and will be suitable for window or counter-top display. In addition, STAR sponsors will be shown and listed on a special conference map to be handed out to all conference attendees at the Civic Center check-in desk. "We expect just about everyone in the downtown area to participate since sponsorship costs are low and visibility is so high for this statewide audience," says Marian Benson, State Conference Chair and owner of a downtown fine lady's apparel shop. For more information on how to gain STAR sponsorship status' contact Benson at 625-6826 or send your check made Herald Zertung photo by I Marian Benson, left, receives a check from Esther Headrick at Headricks Antiques on Seguin Avenue. payable to the Texas Downtown Association P- O. Box 310326, New Braunfels, Texas 78131, attention: Susan Heidrich. Deadline for STAR sponsorships is Oct. 17,1997. Main Street makes holiday plans By SUSAN H. PHILLIPS Special to the Herald-Zeitung The fifth annual Wassailfest will take place Dec 4 from 5:30 to 9 pm Wassailfest is a community open house hosted by businesses downtown Everyone is invited to visit each "Wassail-Stop" and judge the best recipe for Wassail, a western I uropcan fruit punch drink The first, second and third place winners will be announced on the Plaza at 8:30 p.m. and door prizes will be awarded A variety of musical groups will serenade "Wassailers" offering everything from caroling to bell choirs. ( hildren will enjoy the hot air balloon provided by (ilow fest and a tree classic ( hnstmas film beginning at 6 45 p rn at tin: Brauntex Theater Community contributions make this event happen The New Braunfels New Car Dealers Association is providing a substantial cash sponsorship for the second >ear Roger T uttle, of Great American Products, Isis lielped make the dream of a "W assail Mug" a reality Roger has agreed to produce the collector's item on a cost reimbursement basis. (treat American Products will donate the design and set up costs and begin the up front production as ordered The specially designed mugs are nude of glass aud pewter and will go on sale iii downtown shops beginning CKI 15 I he suggested retail price is $7 95 each I he collectible mugs will be a 1997 limited edition thai will be produced only through Dec. 4. Proceeds from the sales will help dctras the cost of staging W assail test. Other contributors to this event include DAM Services, St Paul's I utheran Church, the Lindley Co., The streets will be closed from 6 to Kwik-Kopy, the Music Source and 20 9 p m t0 ensurc the safety of the protessional, school and church thousands of revelers, performing groups who graciously (Susan Phillips is the Main Street donate their time and talents. puMicity chair.) X Jollbrecht's \ I' It a K M A C Y if. . "'..J I (innhi I ht ncd Sun f !1 >i • I ■■■I | Fast, Friendly Service 625-3211 339 Main Plaza Sunday, Oct. l2h 3 to 5p.m. Strengthening Families: Challenges and Opportunities □ Share your concerns about family life □ Consider options for helping families □ Make a difference in your family - with your children and grandchildren. Speaker: Dr. Sally Hill, Clinical Social Worker with 20 years of experience working with families Panelists: Mr. Mark Reynolds, Comal Co. DARE Program Ms. Joan Nemec, Communities in Schools Rev. Albert Clayton, Canyon Lake United Methodist Small Group Discussion - Question /Answer Session Public Invited Child Care by Reservation Admission Free For Information Call 964-2427 Family Issues Forum: Dealing with Tough Questions Presented as a Public Service four times annually by Canyon Lake Presbyterian Church on FM 2673 v* mile west of Chamber of Commerce Vi Custom Window Treatments Draperies • Bedding Kirsch • Graber Draj>cry Rods, Decorator Rods, Sc Hardware Blinds, Shades, Shutters Designer Decorator Fabrics Waverly Representative Designs created in our own workroom (Ittie's Custom Drapes The Window Shop , 7 144 North Castell Street A (Next to Flowers By Sharon) (830) 685-1742 uraDec 1,1 \ Comaltex Insurance Announces FOUR (4) CISR's The Greater New Braunfels Chamber f Commerce Blue Coats will be on land at 4 30 p.m. Tuesda> for a grand opening ribbon cutting at Cutting Hp Hair Salon at 263 Loop 337 Suite 200 At 5 pm. 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Hello world! I am still alive. And kicking.
I have not been on this profile for many a year and - as I stumbled upon it by sheer accident - I realized that I have left it in quite an unfinished state.
This I am truly sorry for.
There have been people writing me, people wondering and asking for updates. It is really a lame thing for me to do to leave all the stories unfinished. Yet, as I also realized, it is almost impossible to continue now. I just cannot get back into it anymore - and that even though I still can feel the past thrill of it and I still very dearly love those kinds of soulbonds. If I ever decided to continue any of my stories, though, I guess I'd have to rewrite them completely.
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Native to Siberia and Eastern Asia, where they were once found in their tens of thousands, experts fear the ducks could soon vanish altogether.
Curator of birds, Andrew Owen said: "We're perilously close to losing this species in the wild and that's why our recent hatchlings are very, very important indeed. They're without doubt some of the rarest ducks in the world.
"Thirty Baer's pochards have been bred here this breeding season and while it's good news in the sense that it's a record for us, rather frighteningly, there may only be similar numbers left in the wild.
"Our very talented bird team have given all our ducklings a helping hand, rearing them under close watch to make sure they make it through to adulthood. With a species that's so rare, it's imperative we get as many through to that stage as possible.
"Hopefully these little ducklings will start to rear their own young next year and, beyond that, a European-wide breeding programme in zoos and bird parks could be what saves the species from extinction."


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