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Can we PLEASE get an updated Powerpose for Genesis (and 2) now? *NEEDS UPDATING FOR G3F*
Hi folks, i did another powerpose template. This one's for Anime Girl Kristin, a figure created by Chris Schell. You can download her for free on his site http://www.schells.ca/. The powerpose template is on my ShareCG : http://www.sharecg.com/v/66374/gallery/9/Plug-in/PowerPose-Template-for-Anime-Girl-Kristin
And since i was at it, i decided to do a tutorial on powerpose templates as well. I'll try to post fast enough, so that the parts don't get scattered throughout the thread.
Edit : some of the xml-tags got messed up cuz they matched forum formatting. Look in the files for correct syntax, don't copy-paste from my forum post...Post edited by BlackFeather1973 on
First, let's take a look at the PowerPose directory and the files in it.
In the Daz Studio installation directory is a folder called plugins, and in that folder you'll find the PowerPose directory. Now, what do we have in here, and what are we going to do with it ?
The PowerPose-plugin itself : dzpowerpose.dll
Obviously the most important file, but we're not gonna mess around with that one.
The dynamics files : bipedDynamics.dsx and dragonDynamics.dsx
Not sure how these work, if you do, please share the knowledge ;-) I guess they describe the dynamics of the bones, as in stifness/sensitivity of the motion ? I do assign them to each new template, but i don't mess around in them either.
The templates file : templates.dsx
This file tells PowerPose wich templates are available, and what figures to use them on. We'll add our homebrew templates to this file.
And the actual templates : eg. genBody.dsx, genBody.png, genHead.dsx, genHead.png, ...
They're what you actually see in Studio when using PowerPose, the images with the dots that select and control the bones. We'll create these from scratch.
All the *.dsx files are XML-files, wich basically means they hold structured and organized data in a plain text file. You can create/edit them in any plain text editor, but i prefer to use an xml-editor. You can find these for free on the internet. I use foxe (First Object XML Editor), it's free and it's easy to use.plugin_folder.png978 x 574 - 129K
wancow Posts: 2,708
You should change your name to PowerPoseFeather :)
looking forward to doing your tutorial!Post edited by wancow on
PowerPose automatically selects different templates when you select different figures in Daz Studio. That happens because of the templates.dsx file.
The basic structure of the templates file :
* template_suite
* title
* default_set
* default_label
* tplset
* tplset
* tplset
* tplset
* tplset
PowerPose will look in the tplsets for the name of the selected geometry (the obj file), then loads the right tplset. If it doesn't find the geometry name, it will load the tplset defined in default_set (e.g. Generic). Each template set (tplset) can have multiple tabs. The value in default_label decides wich tab to show when a tplset is loaded (e.g. Body).
The structure of a tplset :
* tplset
* name
* dynamics_file
* geometry
* template
* label
* file
* template
* label
* file
* template
* label
* file
The different templates in here will be the tabs of your powerpose-template, with label being the name of the tab, and file a *.dsx file containing all info for that tab (background image, position of the dots and how they affect wich bones).
We'll add our tplset at the end of the templates.dsx file, just above the line .
For our anime girl Kristin the tplset is build up like this :
Edit : When you reinstall/update DS, the templates.dsx will be overwritten with the original file. Make sure you have a backup of the modified file, or you'll have to edit the templates file manually again.templates_dsx.png878 x 534 - 70KPost edited by BlackFeather1973 on
And now the fun part : making pictures for the template :-)
The old powerpose templates were 200x300, but i decided to make my templates 300x450 considering modern screen resolutions. So, fire up Daz Studio and make some nice renders for the template. Usually you'll make three : body, hands and head. I don't use a background, and save as png with transparancy, then the templates will integrate nicely in the user interface.
Ok, so let's open up one of our dsx files (e.g. agkBody.dsx) and look at the structure :
* template_file
* version
* bg_file
* bone_data
* xpos
* ypos
* bone_name
* jump_tab
* prim_map
* prim_map_dir
* scnd_map
* scnd_map_dir
* tert_map
* tert_map_dir
* bone_data
* bone_data
The entry bg_file refers to the image to be displayed for that tab, and there's a whole bunch of bone_data entries : as the name implies there is one for each bone that you want to control, but they're also used for jumping to other tabs (body, head, hands).
Each bone_data will be represented by a dot on the powerpose-template, with xpos and ypos being the position of the dot on the background image.
Here's how you use them to switch tabs :
Head Template
< prim_map/>
< prim_map_dir/>
The 'map' and 'map_dir' are not needed here, the tags are empty. Maybe < prim_map>--None-- would be a
better tag in this case, or maybe you can leave them completely out, don't be afraid to experiment. The worst i've had happen was DS crashed when i clicked a dot.
The text in bone_name will be displayed as tooltip-text when the mouse hovers the control-dot.
The jump_tab says wich tab we want to go to. Remember, we defined this earlier in the templates.dsx file.agkHead.png300 x 450 - 82KagkHands.png300 x 450 - 93KagkBody.png300 x 450 - 76KPost edited by BlackFeather1973 on
For controlling bones, we need the three maps and directions :
< prim_map>yrot
< prim_map_dir>pos
As said before, xpos and ypos are the position of the control-dot.
In the tag bone_name we write, well, the name of the bone we want to control, you can see the correct name in the scene tab. In prim_map, scnd_map and tert_map we write the parameter of the bone we want to change. This will most likely be yrot, xrot and zrot for the three rotations.
Feel free to experiment, find other cool stuff to do with this and let me know what you found ;-)
The parameter in < prim_map> will be affected by left-clicking the dot, and moving the mouse left-right.
The parameter in will be affected by left- or right-clicking the dot, and moving the mouse up-down.
The parameter in will be affected by right-clicking the dot, and moving the mouse left-right.
By setting the corresponding map_dir to 'pos' or 'neg' you can change the direction of the rotation.
When setting these parameters, i try to make it 'feel right'. It won't feel right if you move the head sideways by moving the mouse up and down, or vice versa.AGKristinPowerPose.png930 x 540 - 228KPost edited by BlackFeather1973 on
On with the tut...Post edited by mjc1016 on
Congratz if you've made it this far, i can imagine it got a little boring at certain points, but now you can make your own PowerPose templates too ! Well, almost. There are a few things that can go wrong, some bumps in the road ahead. Here are some errors to look out for.
If there is a bone wich name is the name of another bone with something added to it, you must define that bone in the dsx-file before the other bone. For example, genesis has a bone named 'Abdomen 2' and a bone named 'Abdomen', you must assign 'Abdomen 2'to a control-dot before you assign 'Abdomen' to a dot. If 'Abdomen' comes first in the *.dsx file, it will be assigned to the 'Abdomen 2' bone.
Two dots on different tabs of the same template should not have the same x and y position, powerpose will get confused. It's best that they don't even overlap eachother.
And sometimes it just goes wrong, no logic involved, but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. With that said, i'll conclude my tutorial. Have fun, experiment, share your results, and if you have any questions, just ask.
Happy PowerPosing :-DPost edited by BlackFeather1973 on
larsmidnatt Posts: 4,430Congratz if you've made it this far,
Happy PowerPosing :-D
Thanks for sharing the steps. You happened to get it up with limited commercial breaks. Congratz.
And now go back in and edit all the weird formatting issues... :lol:
And now go back in and edit all the weird formatting issues... :lol:
Dang....and I posted my 'why can't we...' right in the middle of all this. Sorry about that...
And here's the 'interruption'...moved to the end.
I've been installing/uninstalling DS a bit lately (namely trying the last couple of beta releases...), and one thing I've noticed and this should probably be high-lighted somewhere...
When you install a new version of DS/reinstall you need to re-do the 'fix'. The Templates.dsx file WILL be over-written with the 'default' version and you will be left without the Genesis specific additions, again.
Alternately, you can make a backup copy of the altered file and then just overwrite the default, once you've installed/updated DS.
The unistaller/installer will leave the additional files alone, it just removes/overwrites the Templates file with default version.
Now, on to a couple of other things...
There used to be several other add-ons/figures for PP. Most of them are no longer available (Scare Bear is one that still is).
I was wondering if we could start a community effort to make some more figures available (I kind of remember one for the MilHorse...but maybe I was dreaming).
Something else...
I've always thought that part of the DAZ philosophy was to provide basic (or slightly more) functionality with an extensible interface, a robust SDK and let the community develop/spread add-ons/plugins/new functions.
When did we, as a community, decide that everything should now be DAZ? (yeah, lack of plugin updates for the DS4/4.5 cycle has some influence on this...)
Yeah, we do have a few third-party items around and lots of good scripts by mcj, but what about other things? Like this? Why can't we take this and expand it? Make it a really useful tool...instead of something that is 'just there', collecting dust? I know that one of the reasons I seldom used it, is because the lack of figures...there's a bazillion ready made poses for the base figures but really how many sets are there for the dog? cow? other figures?
Even a couple more 'generic' items would help.
I guess this part isn't really needed, now, thanks to BlackFeather...Post edited by mjc1016 on
Oh and here's a list of what used to be available from Dreamful...
Here's the one for the Scare Bear 2.0
http://netherworks-studios.com/shoppe/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=86Post edited by mjc1016 on
I hope i got all the mistakes out, can't tell for sure. I prepared the whole thing in one sitting and now i'm too exhausted to re-read it properly.
mjc1016 said:Oh and here's a list of what used to be available from Dreamful...
Here's the one for the Scare Bear 2.0
Too bad they're all gone. I set my templates on 'unrestricted use' at ShareCG, that way they'll always be available as long as anyone has them.
Downloading the scare bear template now, even though i don't have the bear.
wancow Posts: 2,708
nebbermind... forgot the edits I need to do, mystoopid :PPost edited by wancow on
creativemodelsbe Posts: 0First, let's take a look at the PowerPose directory and the files in it.
In the Daz Studio installation directory is a folder called plugins, and in that folder you'll find the PowerPose directory. Now, what do we have in here, and what are we going to do with it ?
The PowerPose-plugin itself : dzpowerpose.dll
can you create this tutorial in a pdf file please?
really don't like reading tutorials spread in trheads on a forum.
thxPost edited by creativemodelsbe on
Kerya Posts: 9,261
creativemodelsbe: are you asking for a tutorial because you want to powerpose some other figure?
If you want to do it for Genesis, you can download it here: http://www.sharecg.com/v/66074/browse/9/Plug-in/Genesis-Template-for-PowerPose
Blackfeather made one for the AnimeGirl too:
creativemodelsbe said:can you create this tutorial in a pdf file please?
really don't like reading tutorials spread in trheads on a forum.
Sure, creativemodelsbe.
Then i can fix the broken xml-tags as well, so one can copy/paste from the pdf-tutorial.
You can expect the pdf-tut to be up in a few days. I'll post a link here.
creativemodelsbe Posts: 0creativemodelsbe said:can you create this tutorial in a pdf file please?
really don't like reading tutorials spread in trheads on a forum.
Sure, creativemodelsbe.
Then i can fix the broken xml-tags as well, so one can copy/paste from the pdf-tutorial.
You can expect the pdf-tut to be up in a few days. I'll post a link here.
The pdf version of the tutorial is up and can be found at http://www.sharecg.com/v/67300/view/3/PDF-Tutorial/Creating-PowerPose-templates-for-Daz-Studio
kitakoredaz Posts: 3,128
now,,, I can not use this great powerpose template ,,, I am windows 7 user,,
last month,,, after updated to newest version ds,, , I thought power poze template has changed,,
then today,, I check the file,, and re-write again,,
but genesis template never change,,,
I did same step,, and re download the file from share cg,,and copy and paste, then change template code.
but this time,, when select genesis,, it keep the defult pic,, and not new template(><)

and it seems strange,,when I try to copy and paste from other directory to ds program folda,,
it never change^^; I try same thing again and again,, delete file in powerpoze,,
then copy and paste,, or paste and overwrite,,
but open the file by text editor,, the file did not chage ^^;; as if ghost return,,,
I compare two file,, but it is actually differnt,, but when I copy and paste,,
the pasted file never change ><;

only when I edit code manually,, it can keep the modify.
Yes, Windows7 can cause some trouble there, it wants to protect the Program Files directory (it's called UAC virtualization). I had similar problems when i was editing the files myself, i'll tell you how i solved it.
First, you need to give yourself permission to change files in the powerpose directory :
Right-click on the PowerPose directory, choose Properties, go to the Security-tab and click Edit. Select Users and check the box called Full Control.
If you tried to change files before you had this permission, Windows makes a copy of the original file and uses that copy instead of the changed one. You will probably have to delete that copy, it should normally be in C:\Users\yourname\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\DAZ 3D\DAZStudio4\plugins\powerpose. You can delete the powerpose directory there.
Now you should be able to make the changes in the files.
I hope this helps, kitakoredaz. :)
kitakoredaz Posts: 3,128
Ya,,thank your reply,, now I have been checking virutual store problem in web^^;
before I heared that,,
I find,,, only the powerpoze template.dsx file only set as virutal store file,,:coolhmm:
it seems so strange,,,
then now I can copy and paste from other directory,,, to
C:\Users\mysign\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\DAZ 3D\DAZStudio4\plugins\PowerPose
after that,, the template.dsx in program folda cahge,,
then,,, I could edit (could not copy and paste,, or delete)
because,, before I changed folda permission to change files in the powerpose directory already,,
(I read your kind PDF many times ^^; so that I could when first install and apply your dsx files,,)
then this time ,,it can not work for me,,,,, so that I will try to delete in vertula store directory,
as you said ,,
Yes Yes Yes,,,first change permission,, then,, I must need to delete
C:\Users\mysign\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\DAZ 3D\DAZStudio4\plugins\PowerPose
after that,, I edit file,, the file modified date are renew!!!
what a terrible virtual store ^^;;; I do no know why it need,,, , but terrible,,
then,, now I get buck the lovely templates @@; thank you much!!!
(about windows,, I thought install aprication to another directory seems better,,
when install under program directory,, this problem may happen,, about files which user need modify)
any way thank you much,, if I could not,, I will check more ^^;Post edited by kitakoredaz on
I think when you re-install DS, for Windows it becomes a new directory and you have to set permission again.
Else when you change the file in Program Files it jumps to VirtualStore, and when you delete/change the VirtualStore then the original file jumps back to Program Files.
It almost drove me crazy, before i knew about the virtualization.
patience55 Posts: 6,928
As I recall to change that file I removed it from the protected program area ... edited it ... then put it back. And it worked fine.
Sometimes even with permissions granted, W7 protects the Program folders.
marco95 Posts: 26
I just found this topic
(Curiosly, search "PowerPose" on the forum don't find this topic ???!!!)
Thank-you for your Tuto :-)
I have post the bug :
In effect there is to anomaly in the script.
1- In the script it's rToe and not rBigToe so why it don't work?
2- For abdomen, ok it's work but why with an uppercase on the beginning (Abdomen), why use label and not name or id in this case ???
Genesis.duf :
"id" : "abdomen2", "url" : "/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis/Base/Genesis.dsf#abdomen2", "name" : "abdomen2", "label" : "Abdomen 2",
genBody.dsx in C:\Program Files\DAZ 3D\DAZStudio4\plugins\PowerPose\ :
76 289 rToe.... 100 106 Abdomen 2 --None-- yrot pos xrot pos zrot neg 100 116 Abdomen...
For information
Thanks for the feedback, marco95.
To be honest, i made this quite a while ago so i'm not sure anymore why i did things one way or the other. If i recall correctly i used the names of the nodes like they showed up in the scene tab in DS4.0
Are some bones not responding anymore ? (I haven't used powerpose myself in a while, posing with Pose Controls has taken over now)
marco95 Posts: 26
Yes but Pose Controls bug :
so I come back to powerpose ;o)
marco95 said:Hi,
I just found this topic
(Curiosly, search "PowerPose" on the forum don't find this topic ???!!!)
Thank-you for your Tuto :-)
I have post the bug :
In effect there is to anomaly in the script.
1- In the script it's rToe and not rBigToe so why it don't work?
2- For abdomen, ok it's work but why with an uppercase on the beginning (Abdomen), why use label and not name or id in this case ???
Genesis.duf :
"id" : "abdomen2", "url" : "/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis/Base/Genesis.dsf#abdomen2", "name" : "abdomen2", "label" : "Abdomen 2",
genBody.dsx in C:\Program Files\DAZ 3D\DAZStudio4\plugins\PowerPose\ :
76 289 rToe.... 100 106 Abdomen 2 --None-- yrot pos xrot pos zrot neg 100 116 Abdomen...
For information
Just did a quick check, the genesis template we made still works fine. (Genesis template for PowerPose)
The file you're looking in (genBody) is not for genesis but a generic template, used by powerpose if it finds no dedicated template for the selected figure.
mdlark1966 Posts: 51
Just wanted to join the chorus thanking you for all your hard work in updating this essential tool. Why DAZ has failed to do so themselves is beyond me.
In any event, I'm so happy to have PowerPose for my Genesis figures! Thank you!
SnowSultan Posts: 1,797
Do you think it would be possible for this fix to be updated to work with Genesis 2 since DAZ STILL HAS NOT FRICKIN' FIXED IT? I tried putting it back in on the latest Studio beta, but it doesn't seem to work for Genesis 2 (just Genesis 1).
Thanks. :)


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St. Edmund Students/Teachers Battle on Basketball Court
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Mini Poppy Seed Pound Cakes
Slideshow: Beautiful Desserts
- Servings: makes 5 dozen
- 1/2 cup heavy cream
- 3/4 cup light brown sugar
- 2 large eggs
- 1 teaspoon pure vanilla extract
- 1 cup all-purpose flour
- 1/3 cup poppy seeds (1 1/2 ounces)
- 1 teaspoon baking powder
- 1 teaspoon salt
- 2 ounces cream cheese, softened
- 1 tablespoon heavy cream
- 1/2 teaspoon pure vanilla extract
- 1/2 cup confectioners' sugar
How to make this recipe
Make the frosting
Preheat the oven to 350°. Butter and flour mini-muffin pans. Whip the cream until it holds a peak. Using an electric mixer, beat the brown sugar and eggs until blended. Beat in the vanilla. Add the four, poppy seeds, baking powder and salt and mix until just incorporated. Fold in the whipped cream.
Spoon the batter into the muffin pans, filling them three-quarters full. Bake for 8 to 10 minutes, or until the cakes spring back when gently pressed. Let cool in the pan for 1 to 2 minutes, then turn them out onto a wire rack to cool completely.
In a bowl, combine the cream cheese, cream and vanilla. Blend with a fork until smooth. Add the confectioners' sugar and mix well. Frost the cakes with a small knife.
Make Ahead
store in an airtight container for up to 2 days.
Suggested Pairing
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Paul Wezner, Senior Editor
I'm sorry, as much as I'd like to be the good soldier, these were simply not good signings. The Tigers are going to pay $11 million over the next two years to a closer who ten months ago was willing to accept a minor league contract with a non-roster invite attached to it. Now he's worth $11 million? Since the Tigers moved him mid-season in 2001, he's pitched for six different teams. He didn't close for any of them until he got the job almost by default in Florida. Last year, we saw the team sign a very successful closer on the downslope of his career, and watched the bottom fall out on him. Now, we've got another guy on the downslope, except he hasn't even proven himself consistently effective over the past five years. Is that really an upgrade over Fernando Rodney? Things don't get much better when we examine the signing of Kenny Rogers. Over the past five years, Rogers has posted a 4.43 ERA. He's also averaged 12 wins. He'll make $8 million each of the next two years, and oh yeah, he turned 41 years of age last month, leaving him ready to see the bottom fall out any day now. Let's examine Jason Johnson, who if offered arbitration, would likely cost the Tigers maybe $5 million for a one year deal. His ERA over the past five years? Try 4.50. He did average only eight wins compared to Rogers' 12, but maybe that could be attributed to the fact that Rogers' teams averaged twelve wins more per season than Johnson's. And, oh right, last time I checked, Johnson never hit a cameraman. We just paid $27 million for two players that are a combined 78 years old and may not be able to produce like they did in '05. Or we could have gotten similar production for about $6 million and looked to use that $21 million somewhere else.
Mark Anderson, Minor League Editor
From the standpoint of how this is actually going to effect the team, I don't really have a problem with either move. Neither is of a long term nature, and won't handcuff the organization down the line. From a philisophical perspective, I'd have to say that I'd give them a resounding two thumbs down. Are we really giving $5 million to Todd Jones in 2006? The same Todd Jones that was given a minor league contract, and non-roster invitation to spring training by the Florida Marlins last year? The same Todd Jones that in spite of his snazzy 2.10 ERA in 2006, has posted a cumulative ERA of 4.38 (5.04 without 2006) since leaving Detroit in 2001? This just doesn't make sense to me. Why are we paying for solely for his 2005 performance, when the likelihood that he repeats it is remarkably low? With Kenny Rogers, you're getting exactly what you see; at least we hope so. At some point, you have to expect that a 40+ pitcher is going to start to decline, but instead we're paying him as though he's assured of repeating his 2005 career year. Like I said, philisophically, I think both deals were pretty dumb, but in terms of the grand scheme and their lasting effects, neither is likely to matter much. I just hope in the end, we don't show some unwarranted loyalty to either player if they begin to decline past the point of being useful.
Jason Avery, Amateur Baseball Editor
I give a thumbs down to both. I believe they are nothing more than stop gap measures and the Tigers could've either investigated the trade route, or taken a longer look at the remaining free agents available. The Tigers were incredibly fortunate that the Marlins didn't offer Jones arbitration and thus cause the Tigers to lose a second-round pick in next June's draft. Sure the odds are long that a player will make it, but I'd rather have a chance of having that player becoming at the worst, a useful player in potential trades in the future, then nothing at all. Jones has also struggled in the years leading up to his banner '05 season, so it certainly screams fluke, and I hope that if he struggles and can't get it together, the Tigers will turn to Fernando Rodney and give him the chance, rather than stay with a struggling pitcher. Also, considering Kyle Farnsworth is making roughly the same amount per year as Jones is, it makes wonder why DD didn't pursue him further, not to mention, the Tigers could've kept a close eye on Octavio Dotel and see how his rehab from Tommy John Surgery was going and made an offer. Keep in mind, the Tigers didn't land Ugueth Urbina until February two years ago, so to me, signing Jones looks like a move of desperation. Like the Jones signing, this also looks like a desperate move. Rogers is 41, so giving him a two-year deal isn't bad, but $16 million, after the incident with the cameraman and a 4.72 ERA in the second half last year just shows how ridiculous the price for pitching is these days. It also concerns me that the Tigers are very quickly becoming the new outlet for Scott Boras to dump his troubled clients on. Pudge didn't have any market interest two years ago, yet the Tigers gave Boras what he wanted. Same with Magglio Ordonez last year and now Rogers this year. In an offseason where owners have decided to pay through the nose for mediocre talent, the Tigers should've been patient and waited things out. Lets see which arbitration-eligible players get non-tendered and become free agents, or see what the trade market would've brought, because I would be more than willing to bet that both Jones and Rogers would've gone into the new year unsigned. I don't want to be totally negative here, so I will say that these two guys should bring stability to the pitching staff, and perhaps if the Tigers are out of the race in July, net quality young players for the future in trades, but we'll have to wait and see.
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Hi guys! I have a problem thats driving me crazy. I don't usually ask questions on forums, I just read guides and figure things out on my own. Well apparently too many guides is bad for you... I read through forum and although I found some similar problems, after 3 days of reading different guides, trying things out in different ways I am so confused So I need a fresh pair of eyes to take a look at my config and explain me what my mistake is.
Confusion only added up after different guides either spoke of sickbeard to sabToSickBeard.exe script or tv to sabToSickBeard.exe script or avoided it at all. Here is my problem, - I am trying to make SAbnzbd + Sickbeard work together. Downloads go great, via a browser (open file, nzb association etc) or Sickbeard (from as many shows as I want, or just selected episodes all is fine) but unfortunately they all get placed into the same folder and just stay there. I have tried so many different things that as you'll see my categories currently left nearly blank because i just don't know what else to put there.
My setup. Windows 7 64, SAB 0.7.9, SickBeard Alpha build 499. Everything is placed locally on the same PC. Sabnzbd has an ip, but Sickbeard runs on localhost. Incompletes for SAB: H:\Garbage, completed files go to D:\Program Files\NewsBin Downloads. Sickbeard is (accordingly to my understanding) is watching D:\Program Files\NewsBin Downloads and then transferring TV content to D:\Program Files\TV Shows (setup as default folder and has folders with different shows added in sickbeard) . D:\Program Files\ also happens to host a number of other dirs - Movies, Anime , Music etc.
Sab part of directories works fine. I followed files from incompletes (H:\Garbage), to completed (D:\Program Files\NewsBin Downloads) but thats where they get stuck. Any help would be much appreciated.
Please do not be quick to point out that my SAB Categories are not filled in completely, they were. I tried more then a few things until i gave up on trying to do it on my own. Since neither of it was working I deleted it all. So my question(s) would be: - Do I need a category 'sickbeard' that calls/uses a script to SabToSickBeard.exe? Or do I need TV category that calls/scripts to SabToSickBeard.exe? Or do I need both? What about my folders, how would I point them giving my setup?
Please be sure to check the screenies below in case something basic slipped my mind.
Categories SAB
Folders SAB
Switches SAB
Sorting SAB
Sickbeard settings
SickBeard postprocessing
And another question I have about Sabnzbd. In reference to the screenie below, when the download starts, the optional presets/commands in top right corner (just under the pause button), are they for manual control only (When you decide to DL something on your own (no sickbeard), once the DL started you choose a preset category (TV, music, movies etc) thats already in SAB categories or does it change on its own if SAB recognises a download as TV, movies, music or any other category thats have been preprogrammed ? )
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If anyone is willing to give me a hand with this I would be very grateful. Thanks in advance
P.S: I've been over http://wiki.sabnzbd.org/configure-categories so many times I even found an easter egg lol.


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Little Big Town ACM Performance Will Spotlight Child Hunger
Little Big Town, in partnership with ACM Lifting Lives, will take the ACM Awards show stage for a performance of 'Here's Hope,' an original song co-written by ACM New Artist of the Year nominee Hunter Hayes. Hunter will introduce the quartet, who'll be joined onstage by the Clark County Children's Choir. The performance, presented by ConAgra Foods' Child Hunger Ends Here campaign, is being presented to shed light on child hunger in the United States.
"When I first learned about ACM Lifting Lives a few years ago, I immediately asked to be a part of this amazing organization," says Little Big Town's Kimberly Schlapman. "Lifting Lives seeks out needs and takes care of people. They work hard at giving both children and adults comfort, contentment and happiness. We are so honored and excited to be a part of the very special Lifting Lives moment to end child hunger on the ACM Awards. We can't wait!"
ACM Lifting Lives is the philanthropic arm of the Academy of Country Music. The organization is dedicated to improving lives through the power of music. Among the services they provide are grants to music therapy and music education programs and assisting members of the country music community who face unexpected medical or financial hardship. This year's ACM Lifting Lives award-show presentation with Little Big Town marks the fourth consecutive year during which a performance has been used to highlight worthy causes and provide support on behalf of their beneficiaries. Since 2009, the ACM Lifting Lives on-stage moment has raised over $200,000 for designated charities. Downloads and direct donations of Toby Keith's performance on the 45th annual telecast, and Darius Rucker's performance on the 46th annual telecast raised funds and awareness for Stand Up to Cancer and Vanderbilt Kennedy Center respectively.
'Here's Hope' was penned by Hunter Hayes, Luke Laird and Barry Dean to inspire consumers to join the fight against child hunger.
"What I didn't realize — and what most people may not know — is that child hunger is not a faraway problem; it's a problem right here in our own backyards," says Hunter. "The good news though is that this is a problem we can all help solve together. My hope is that through music, we can inspire people to get involved and finally put an end to child hunger in our country."
The Child Hunger Ends Here website features three versions of 'Here's Hope' available for download, including one by Jewel.
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"Today, I made the decision to submit my resignation from the post of minister of Ukraine's economic development and trade," the Lithuanian-born minister told reporters in Kiev.
"The reason is the sharp escalation in efforts to block systemic and important reforms."
Abromavicius and Finance Minister Natalie Jaresko were both appointed in December 2014 as part of Poroshenko's efforts to bring new blood into the war-shattered country's attempts to return to growth.
Reacting to his resignation Kiev's US Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt tweeted that Abromavicius was "one of the Ukrainian government's great champions of reform... and a believer in the future Ukraine's people deserve."
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Abromavicius alleged that unnamed powerful figures were "trying to establish control over financial resources -- first and foremost those of the Naftogaz (state oil and energy company) and the defence industry."
"I refuse to work in such a system," the 40-year-old former banker said.
"I and my team are not ready to provide cover for the restoration of old -- and the creation of new -- schemes (built) in the interests of particular political and business players."
The graft-riven country of about 40 million has been one of Europe's worst economic performers since winning independence in 1991.
A January report by Transparency International showed Ukraine ranking 130 out of 168 countries and territories surveyed for its 2015 Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI).
Initial government estimates show Ukraine's economy shrinking by 10.4 percent of gross domestic product last year.
Abromavicius's resignation must still be approved by parliament at a meeting on Thursday.
Poroshenko himself failed to mention his minister's decision during brief remarks devoted the appointment of a new regional governor.
Some of Kiev's more acrimonious battles have been waged between billionaires linked to Poroshenko and those of Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk -- a hawkish leader who delivered passionate speeches atop barricades during Ukraine's 2014 pro-Western revolt.
Yatsenyuk and Poroshenko were seen as allies in the heady days that followed Ukraine's break from Russia's historic embrace.
But bitter rivalries have since surfaced and Yatsenyuk's own place in the government no longer suits some of the more outspoken members of the president's team.
Mikheil Saakashvili -- a former Georgian president who fought a brief 2008 war with Russia and currently serves as governor of Ukraine's historic Odessa region -- said he spoke to Abromavicius on Tuesday and knew that something was wrong.
"Aivaras and I both work on the council of state enterprise reforms," Saakashvili wrote on Facebook.
"And I would like to confirm that all our initiatives aimed at changing the leaders of state enterprises are being blocked personally by the prime minister at the suggestion of Igor Kononenko," he claimed.
Saakashvili is a close ally of Poroshenko.
Kononenko is deputy head of Poroshenko's party and known in the Ukrainian media as a "grey cardinal" who implements the president's political will.
His alleged ties to the prime minister underscore the complexities of Ukraine's shaky ruling elite.


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Tobico Marsh NEPA
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A final Restoration Plan/Environmental Assessment (plan) for restoring 900-acre Tobico Marsh near Bay City is complete, calling for measures that will improve fish passage between Saginaw Bay and Tobico Marsh and minimize the risk of flooding to nearby residents. The final plan was approved on October 20, 2004 when the Finding of No Significant Impact (FONSI) was signed.
Some highlights of the plan include modifications to the flap gate at Tobico Lagoon and improvements to the existing culverts under Parish Road. Fish move between the bay and the marsh for spawning, so enhancing fish passage will benefit fish populations, especially those of northern pike. The Service and its partners restoring the marsh had considered additional measures to improve water flow - including installation of additional culverts under Parish Road and Boutell Road. However, it was determined through information gained during a public comment period that these additional measures, which would have rerouted water from Hadd Drain into the marsh, were not feasible.
The final plan incorporates information and suggestions given by the public during a public comment period earlier this year, at a meeting in January 2002, and an engineering study of water level fluctuations. The plan is available below and at the Bay City State Recreation Area Visitor Center in Bay City, Michigan. A CD of the Environmental Assessment may also be obtained by calling Lisa Williams at 517-351-8324.
In 1998, the Service, the State of Michigan and the Saginaw Chippewa Tribe, acting together as natural resource trustees, negotiated a settlement with General Motors and the cities of Bay City and Saginaw under a Natural Resources Damage Assessment (NRDA).
The settlement provided for cleanup of contaminated sediments in Saginaw River, construction of boat launches and a nature park, and restoration of wildlife habitat in portions of the bay and river, including Tobico Marsh. More information on the settlement and its benefits can be found at http://www.fws.gov/midwest/es/ec/NRDA/SaginawNRDA/index.html
The goals of NRDA are to restore the habitats and resources to the condition they would have been had the contaminants not been released into the environment, and to compensate the public for the loss of use or enjoyment of natural resources. The parties responsible for the contamination are required to pay for these activities.
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Weekly Check In: April 22nd-28th
Hi Ladies! How was everyone's weekend?? :) Mine was pretty busy, as I helped a friend move into her new house all day Saturday and Sunday!
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Sustainable development
HIV, TB and MNCWH News - Newsletter 6
We are well into the 2015/16 financial year and the MDG deadline is getting closer, as is the announcement of the Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs). It's time to take stock of where we are as a country in reaching the MDGs and start thinking about planning for the implementation of the SDGs …
2011 Human Development Report: Sustainability and Equity: A Better Future for All
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Millenium Development Goals Report 2011
The MDG Report 2011 highlights development successes, and says many are due in part to continued economic growth in some developing countries and targeted efforts in critical MDG areas, such as health. Increased funding from many sources, it says, has expanded key programmes, such as treatment for people living with HIV/AIDS. "Achieving the goals will require equitable and inclusive economic growth — growth that reaches everyone and that will enable all people, especially the poor and marginalized, to benefit from economic opportunities." the Secretary-General said. "Between now and 2015, we must make sure that promises made become promises kept.


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Jul 4, 2014, 9:23 AM by Eric M. Zeman @phonescooper
Rok Mobile officially launched today, allowing select invitees to try its music-focused wireless service. Rok Mobile is an MVNO that resells access to Sprint and T-Mobile's 3G and LTE 4G networks. Rok doesn't just provide wireless service, it also bundles in its own streaming music service. Rok charges $50 per month for unlimited voice, messaging, and data in addition to music streaming, downloading, and caching. Rok offers customers access to 20 million tracks and lets people create their own playlists, as well as automatically generate playlists based on crowd-sourced favorites. Interested customers can bring their own device, or purchase an iPhone or Android smartphone from Rok. Rok offers iOS and Android apps to provide access to its music service. Anyone wishing to trial Rok Mobile can request an invitation from its web site.
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Samsung's new Galaxy S8 and S8+ smartphones will cost $750 and $850, respectively. The phones share almost all features other than size and both ship with 64 GB of internal storage.
More Carriers and Phone Makers Agree to Adopt Google's RCS-Based 'Android Messages' Service
Google today said more wireless network operators and handset manufacturers will use Android Messages, its RCS-based messaging service, as the default SMS/MMS tool on their phones. (Android Messages was previously known as Google Messenger.) Some of the features of RCS, which is a global standard, include group chat, high-resolution photo sharing, advanced calling features, and read receipts.
Amazon Brings Prime Music to Smartphones
Amazon today launched Prime Music, its own streaming music service. Prime Music is free to those who subscribe to Amazon Prime ($99/year), which also offers perks such as discounted shipping and Amazon Instant Video.
Apple Music Is $10/Month
Apple today announced Apple Music, its new streaming music service. In addition to streaming the entire iTunes catalog, the service includes curated playlists.
Rok MVNO to Combine Mobile with Music
A new MVNO called Rok Mobile plans to offer a merged mobile-and-music service when it launches in July. The company is working with two unnamed carriers (one GSM, one CDMA) to resell access to LTE 4G networks, but it will also bundle in its own streaming music service as part of the core offering.
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Sales should be transparent, I should not have to give informatation to check coverage, or what BYOD type I would need.
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe they just haven't fully openned their site. But very skeptical.
'4G LTE data is currently not supported when bringing your own device, however 4G LTE phones are permitted. All phones will be supported with 4G Wimax or 3G data, depending on their capabilities.'
That just killed it from the star...


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anybody have an opinions or recomendations? I might go with the 5.11 and give it a try. Worst comes to it I can probably sell it for a reasonable price.
This is a discussion on Thumb break holsters within the Gear Talk forums, part of the The Armory category; Hey guys, i'll be open carrying for my job here shortly and I would to know what some other people are using for thub break ...
Hey guys, i'll be open carrying for my job here shortly and I would to know what some other people are using for thub break or thumb release holsters. I learned on what I assume was a safariland hooded leather holster and when you push the thumb release down you rock the hood forward to draw. I would like to get one of those but they are so expensive. I also wouldn't mind an open top holster so I was wondering what options are out there for a thumb break retention button on that style holster. I also have never used a padle so i'd prefer a belt loop style and this will be worn on a regular 1.5" belt. Any bands to stay away from, certain ones that are good, or some place I've never heard of that makes a good one? I've done plenty of google/ebay/amazon etc searching so i've seen plenty i'm just wondering which ones are recomended and work the best for the best price. Even good places to order them from. This will be for a 17 Gen 4.
EDIT: Just saw the 5.11 thumb drive and it seems to be perfect anybody with some experience? http://www.511tactical.com/All-Produ...r-50023__50031
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anybody have an opinions or recomendations? I might go with the 5.11 and give it a try. Worst comes to it I can probably sell it for a reasonable price.
Sorry Sheeran, I don't have any experience with service holsters anymore. I know that 5-11 is a good name and they have been producing service gear for sometime now. Also Blackhawk has a service line and make very good gear. I didn't have the luxury of using my own gear when I was in uniform as a civilian so I was stuck with a leather non-retention holster. If I were in uniform today I know that my duty holster would be at least a level 3 retention holster. That may narrow down the manufacturers for you a little. Hope that helped.
I just picked up a blackhawk leather pancake holster for my G17 today and so far I like it a lot. I haven't spent much time using it since this is my first handgun but it seems really well made and fits perfectly to my hip. And it was only $46.
Galco makes a good level 2 retention holster with a thumb "button" rather than a strap or Serpa style release.
My son got a Blackhawk plastic-type (kydex?) for his G17 (also fits compacts) with a thumb-release and he likes it a lot. I tried it out and I like it too. It's an OWB paddle and with the thumb action it releases very easily.
If your job allows/requires open carry with a "Sam Browne Belt" type of rig, this won't help you much but I also like the Blackhawk leather pancake holster that Geezy speaks of above. This is the Concealed Carry holster for my G23.
The only real downside to these types of holsters is the fact that the securing strap tends to get in the way if you have to present the weapon quickly. If I feel I might be entering a possible threat area, or if a "situation" appears to be developing, (a heightened awareness event), I unsnap the strap and make sure it is pulled free so it doesn't prevent a smooth draw if I should need to do so. The holster fits snuggly against the body and since it is an OWB holster, it will fit your belt nicely. It also allows you to choose a canted angle or a straight up carry if you'd rather.
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The American people have accepted an increase in automation within their daily lives. We play with technology, we are served by technology and the thought of no technology in our lives would send some into suicide land. But, for some strange reason, technology has yet to impact the world of Congress. Congress folk work about three days each week, they take liberal vacations and just about cease to work by the beginning of August since it is election time. Anyone working in the real world would be fired for such behavior. Perhaps, it is time to place Congress on some sort of schedule. Of course, those failing to meet standards would confront the issue of being laid off.
1. Congress folk would be required to work a 40 hour week. Fund raising would be in addition to the forty hours. For each hour less than 40 in Congress, the person would be given a ten percent reduction in pay.
2. A new law would replace ten percent of Congressmen and replace them with robots. It certainly does not take an Einstein mind to be a Congressman. Certainly robots could be created who study a proposed law and vote for logical aspects of such a law.
3. For each dollar raised by a Congressman, fifty cents on the dollar would go to a charity named by a robot.
4. By the year 2020, fifty percent of Congress would be composed of Robots programmed to vote for laws that benefit American society rather than for those which benefit the upper one percent of society.
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Culture of the company comes through in this quote: "The less confident you are, the more serious you have to act."
Our trading philosophy inspired by this theory as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_swan_theory from http://www.fooledbyrandomness.com/. If you're interested, you can watch a video here: http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2…neman.html
People who invest. So, pretty much everyone. Well, everyone who treats servers at restaurants with respect and who sends there Mom flowers on mothers day.
No strong requirements.
One of the partners think this would be cool, but, don't get stuck on it:
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY for Monday, July 8, 2013:

This year your determination couples with luck, which takes you to a high point that you will remember for years to come. You also will be unusually creative and dynamic. If you are single, you attract quite a few potential suitors. One of them could be significant to your life history. If you are attached, avoid being too me-oriented. Remember that a partnership is a duo. If you stay aware of your sweetie, this year could be significant for both of you. Cancer can close down.

The stars show the kind of day you'll have: 5-dynamic; 4-positive; 3-average; 2-so-so; 1-difficult

ARIES (March 21-April 19)

 You'll be unusually feisty or touchy. Someone comes out of the doldrums and expresses his or her interest in a key project. Greet the change positively, and let this person take the lead—you might be amazed at how helpful this adjustment could be. Tonight: Homeward bound.

TAURUS (April 20-May 20)

 Keep reaching out to someone. Answers might be hard to get if you don't have a chat with this person. You could be wondering about a forthcoming choice, as you do not have a sense of what you are facing. A loved one becomes far more easygoing. Tonight: Out and about.

GEMINI (May 21-June 20)

 Your finances could be changing considerably, and for the better, especially if you nix any wild risk-taking. You have been rather down in the dumps lately, and you will be wondering why. Your mood could change before you find the answer. Go with the flow. Tonight: Pay bills.

CANCER (June 21-July 22)

 Your creativity emerges, and in some way, it will cause you to approach an issue in a more positive way. A new friend who has been giving you the cold shoulder for the past few weeks finally might lighten up. What has been difficult becomes easy. Tonight: Be spontaneous!

LEO (July 23-Aug. 22)

 Know when saying little is the best course of action. Sometimes you push very hard to get your way. Lighten up, and do what you want. At other times, you hold yourself back. Stop interfering with your success. Enjoy the laughter around you. Tonight: Get a good night's sleep.

VIRGO (Aug. 23-Sept. 22)

 Zero in on what you want. A situation or relationship might be shaky. You know when you need to head in a new direction. You could be surprised by the other party's agreement. Finally, you'll be able to see eye to eye with this person! Tonight: Where your friends are.

LIBRA (Sept. 23-Oct. 22)

 Dealing with a boss will give you new insights, regardless of whether or not that was your goal or intention. You have felt stressed out when interacting with this person in the past, mainly because you couldn't ask for what you wanted. Be open to change. Tonight: Do what you want.

SCORPIO (Oct. 23-Nov. 21)

 Detach in order to see the big picture. Be willing to let go of a need to have certain matters go a particular way. Once you lose this attachment for situations to conform to your goals, you will be able to see where others are coming from. Tonight: Hop on the Internet.

SAGITTARIUS (Nov. 22-Dec. 21)

 You will feel less of a need to hold back, once a partner decides to reveal more of what is going on with him or her. This person might realize that there is no reason to sit on his or her feelings. Both of you will gain a new insight as a result. Tonight: Discussion over dinner.

CAPRICORN (Dec. 22-Jan. 19)

 What seemed impossible now seems very possible. Doors will open up because of a partner's willingness to walk through them. You might not know what direction to head. Open up to a positive change, and you'll see the path to a particular goal. Tonight: Where the action is.

AQUARIUS (Jan. 20-Feb. 18)

 You finally make a decision, but the question remains: Will it hold? Whether you opt for a more organized approach to work or a new exercise program, it is likely that it will require some self-discipline. You have the energy to get through a big project. Tonight: Put your feet up.

PISCES (Feb. 19-March 20)

 A key relationship, perhaps one with a child or new friend, will lighten up. You might be wondering what sparked this change. Attempt to move through a problem, but only when the other party seems more willing. Know when to say "no." Tonight: Be more childlike.

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Date of Stay: June, 2013
Love this place. We had a spa RV site with private deck and a grill. Quiet, clean and great people who looked after us very well. Our favorite place in Gold Beach.
Date of Stay: June, 2013
Our group has stayed here for 3 years in a row for a special event. We have always had a great time. The hosts were friendly when we checked in, but after that, things went downhill. The park is usually very clean, but for some reason things were just not going well. The WI-Fi worked for 1 day and then quit and was never fixed for the next 6 days we were there. The spa wasn't working and the pool did not look clean. Others staying in the park did not clean up after their dogs, and did not always use the designated pet areas. I was a little disappointed, but they may have just been having an off week.
Date of Stay: September, 2012
We stayed in another campground and decided to move here. We are very glad we did. The hostess was very helpful and though we wanted to check in early she was very happy to meet our needs. We had a little trouble with the WiFi, but figured it out. They do not take credit cards so be prepared to pay with cash or check. The sites are level and have trees and shrubs that offer privacy from other campers. The hookups and bathrooms were exceptional.
Date of Stay: September, 2012
The good the bad and the ugly. The good: Absolutely beautiful park right by the ocean. The weather was fantastic and we had the most amazing sunset. The staff is very friendly. The bad: restrooms are old and cold and the toilets need stain cleaning. The Wifi we were told that is available is a hotspot by the office and (the office is far away from the actual sites)The Wifi did not work very well, in fact out of three wifi devices only worked on 1 and was slower that the old dial up. I called ahead to make reservations and was told that the wifi was available throughout the park. When we checked we again were told the wifi worked well. Sorry it was very bad. The ugly. By the ocean there are no trees, or green grass. The park is dirty and dusty, The beach was full of debris left by tent campers. I won't come back here.
Date of Stay: June, 2012
The sites by the river are great. The space is small and not very much room for slideouts. The restrooms are a joke. Unisex toilets and sink to wash hands outside of restroom??? We stayed 1 night and then got out here. The river view was very nice though. We probably won't be back.
Date of Stay: June, 2012
We stayed at this campground with our parents. We reserved the hot tub site for our parents anniversary. I have to say it was the best gift I could have given them. They were so pleased with the site and the camp hosts were fantastic. It was very windy at the beach but hardly a breeze at our site. The roads are gravel, the sites are level and everything worked very well. We enjoyed our stay and we will be back again. Thanks Turtle Rock.
Date of Stay: June, 2012
We love this campground. From check in through our stay the staff was great. This place is so clean you could eat off the grass. The grounds are well manicured with level sites on concrete pads. The laundry restrooms, pool, and spa area are very well maintained. Wi-fi is excellent. The sites are big and most are pull through. We have been here with a large group 3 years in a row, and we will be back.


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Because we have such a diverse mix of conservatories and orangeries it means that Clearview Home Improvements can supply virtually any property in Merseyside with a home extension. Even the age of the house will have no bearing on whether we can create a conservatory or orangery design that integrates into the building effortlessly.
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Those who go through with the purchase of a conservatory or orangery reap so many benefits as they don't solely add space, but they also add monetary value to your home. If ever a time comes when you want to sell then you could well pocket more cash than you would without a home extension in Merseyside.
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Your Checklist for a Better Night's Sleep
Posted on May 17, 2013
Is counting sheep to drift off to sleep not working for you? If that's so – you're not alone. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, more than a quarter of the U.S. population state that they occasionally don't get enough sleep, while nearly 10 percent experience chronic insomnia. Insomnia is a medical condition that keeps you from falling asleep, staying asleep or both. While "adequate sleep" varies from person to person, most adults need about seven to eight hours. Nearly everyone experiences insomnia at some point in their lives.
Most people can reduce their number of sleepless nights by changing a few daily habits. To get more Zs, try the following these tips from Palo Alto Medical Foundation sleep specialist Manpreet S. Sanghari, M.D.:
- Establish a routine sleep schedule. Go to bed at the same time each night and wake up at the same time each day, including on weekends.
- Incorporate a "buffer zone." Build in a transition time, of about 30 to 60 minutes between your day activities and bedtime, to help you prepare for sleep. Relaxing bedtime routines may include reading, soft music, meditation or prayer. Avoid screen time, including computers, TV, smartphones and tablets, close to bedtime.
- Manage your stress level. Try to reduce the stressors in your life. Making a list of all the things on your mind earlier in the evening may help to reduce "racing thoughts" at night.
- Don't look at the clock at night. Set your alarm and then turn the clock face away from you. Knowing what time it is when you're awake at night, or knowing that you have to get up soon, may increase your anxiety.
- Go to bed when you're sleepy and don't stay in bed if you're not sleeping. If you're unable to sleep for about 15 to 20 minutes, get out of bed and go back to doing a buffer-zone activity.
- Restrict your sleep. Limit the time you spend in bed trying to fall asleep and stay asleep throughout the night. The harder you try to get to sleep, the more difficult it may become.
- Only use your bed for sleeping or sex. Don't read, watch TV, eat, do work assignments, or use computers or smart phones while in bed.
- Avoid or limit naps. If you need to nap, do so before 3 p.m. and limit the nap to 30 minutes or less.
- Avoid or limit caffeine, alcohol and nicotine intake. Caffeine and nicotine are stimulants that worsen insomnia. Alcohol may initially make you drowsy, but it usually causes you to wake up in the middle of the night.
- Make sure your bedroom and bed are comfortable. Keep the bedroom dark and try to reduce any disturbing sounds. Keep the room temperature comfortable; a cooler bedroom promotes sleep.
- Get regular exercise. Aim for 20 to 30 minutes of exercise daily, but avoid exercising within four hours before bedtime.
- Avoid large meals and drinks close to bedtime. Eating and drinking too much and too late can disrupt sleep.
If you try the items on this list and your insomnia persists, consult your physician. Keep a two-week sleep diary outlining your sleep problems and possible triggers, and take it to your appointment. This will help the doctor identify your sleep patterns and habits.
Manpreet S. Sanghari, M.D., is a sleep medicine physician at the Palo Alto Medical Foundation's Sleep Center in Sunnyvale. Dr. Sanghari is board certified in family medicine and sleep medicine.
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Where do you guys get your boxes?
Where do you guys get your boxes?
Wherever I can. I especially appreciate when I can obtain the resources to build my own -- I like to build a few details into my supers that aren't exactly, standard.
48 years - 50 hives - TF
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Know the source. I received many of my boxes from my Father-in-law, and others I have purchased from Mann Lake and constructed myself. Again, I have to emphasize the importance of knowing the source. The last thing you want are contaminated, dirty boxes for your bees.
Good luck!
"Life will find a way - it always finds a way." -Jurassic Park (MOVIE/BOOK)
USDA Zone 5a
Walter Kelley's in Clarkson, Ky or Dadant in Frankfort, Ky. Make the 70 minute drive down to Kelley's once a year to stock up. Also newbies that lost interest or had failed packages, an old beekeeper getting to old to care for bees and his sons don't want to do it. The old timer practically gave them too me for free, just happy to see someone carry on the hobby and make good use of the equipment.
I buy mine at the lumberyard in the form of 1x12s.
Making hives is quite simple and requires none of the fancy joinery you see on the boxes in the catalogs.
Titebond III and simple butt joints serve me very well when properly glued and nailed.
I used to make rabbet joints but have found no advantage, as the titebond is actually stronger than the wood when fully cured.
I have what's left of a hive smashed by a bear to prove proper butt joints are stronger than the wood!
I love the tightbond. People who don't use glue are stupid. :-) The finger-joints eventually loosen and become wobbly without glue, unless screwed.
Have had great service and product from Shastina
Yup Shastina has been a great company to work with so far really like the free branding.
I make my own. I use gorilla glue but titebond works great also. I use box joints I think that they are a little better than butt joints over time. I build a simple jig to make the joints and a dado blade on my table saw. I watch Craigs list for free wood but I still have to buy some. Be sure to ask if you are getting free wood if it has ever been sprayed or treated with anything.
We did buy a bunch from Dadant for a class I help teach and their boxes were very very nice.
We buy from Western Bee in Montana. They have a nice box and good prices. We only get their budget boxes, plenty good for bees.
"Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." - Mark Twain
Dadant and Kelly have good boxes, but we prefer the handholds in the Killian boxes. They are N.W. of San Fransisco, and do a great job of packing a pallet, bundled with sticks thru the box joints. We never had a reject part, all pieces worked.
Crazy Roland
Shastina, great box and great service. Ron Knight is a good guy to work with.
Clear Lake Wi. / Sebring Fl.
I usually make my own. I make commercial grade boxes for about $7 apeice + labor. If I don't have time to make them, I always go to and will always recommend Western Bee Supplies in Polson, MT. Get the budget ones.
Should be able to get that down to under $4.50 if you plane up 1x12 pine sheeting buying in bulk, that includes a new dado blade for every thousand boxes and 225 bucks per thousand for misc expenses... I figure I have about $19.80 plus about 25 minutes of labor at whatever rate you value your time in a nine frame super with frame spacers, frames and foundation... What lumber are you using?
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Bought my first few dozen from Kelley, through a guy who stocked them in his shop near me. I noticed a bit of wander in the box joints on the last batch I bought. The shop went out of business and I decided to make my own, with cleats instead of cutout handholds. Cheaper? No, not if I include the time I spend. But I do not have any QC issues. Wait...yes I do. But I am getting better.
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To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous.
there is a guy in SD. that is cuttting the joints with a lazer of some sort. the joints have a rounded touch to them not square like mann lake or dadant. also the hand grips are deeper and much better for lifting a heavy deep of honey. his prices are right on the money and i think he uses a much better quality wood than the other guys. really not impressed with mann lakes pine. i have seen boxes rot that i double dipped in oil base paint only 3 years ago.
i cant believe no one else talked about him yet..... cant think of his name or the town hes in out there but i know he has a add in bee journal
Try Beeline Apiaries and Woodenware, Rochester, WA, 360.280.5274, email@example.com
From Exit 88 on I-5, take Hwy 12 West approx. 6.7 miles. Turn LEFT (South) onto Moon Rd SW. Go 1 mile to Beeline Apiaries on the right.
I have bought from their Pennsylvania shop and have been very pleased with quality and price.
PS: they have a 1/2 page add in Bee Culture magazine this month


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You'll recall that in 2003, McClellan himself stated the following in a press conference:
... that suggests White House involvement. There are anonymous reports all the time in the media. The President has set high standards, the highest of standards for people in his administration. He's made it very clear to people in his administration that he expects them to adhere to the highest standards of conduct. If anyone in this administration was involved in it, they would no longer be in this administration.Today on Meet the Press, he said:
MR. RUSSERT: The president said at the time that "if someone committed a crime, they'd no longer work in my administration." Do you believe the president should have fired Karl Rove?Watch the video; the above exchange is about 3 1/2 minutes into the clip.
MR. McCLELLAN: That's a, that's a question that the president had to make, and he chose not to.
MR. RUSSERT: But what do you think?
MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I, I think he should have stood by his word. I think the president should have stood by the word that we said, which is if you were involved in this any way, then you would no longer be in this administration. And Karl was involved in it. That would be a tough decision. I don't know if, if there was any crime committed. I don't--I say I just don't know that in the book. But we had higher standards at the White House. The president said he was going to restore honor, integrity. He said we were going to set the highest of standards. We didn't live up to that. When it became known that his top adviser had been involved, then the bar was moved. And the bar was moved to "if anyone is indicted, they would no longer be here."
MR. RUSSERT: So you think they should've been dismissed.
MR. McCLELLAN: I think so. I mean, Scooter Libby was, and I, and I think that he should...
MR. RUSSERT: Well, he resigned. But you...
MR. McCLELLAN: Yes. But that was pushed out.
MR. RUSSERT: But you believe Rove--Rove should've, should've left?
MR. McCLELLAN: I think the president should've stood by his word, and that meant Karl should've left.