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With The Rangers Down 3-0, Torts Decides Now's A Good Time To Sit Brad Richards
Brad Richards, cap hit of $6,666,667 and 7 years left on contract, will be healthy scratch for Rangers tonight in possible elimination game.
— Tom Gulitti (@TGfireandice) May 23, 2013
Well, it looks like Brad Richards has something else embarrassing to rival this:
This guy's gone from the most coveted free agent a couple years back to the latest Blueshirt following in the footsteps of Redden & Gomez. From Conn Smythe trophy winner with SEVEN playoff game-winners in 2004 (coached by Tortorella) to scoping his squad's potential elimination from the press box. Saying Richards has been a colossal disappointment is a colossal understatement, but down 3-0 isn't the time to be sending messages. His job is to produce on the stat sheet, especially on the power play. And despite closing out the year with 11 points over 6 games, he's done jack shit in the playoffs. Without numbers, he brings zilch to the table…except being a 33 year-old veteran with an entire regular season's worth of post-season experience.
A healthy scratch would've made sense after getting rolled Game 2 – but not now. I don't care how poorly he's played, in a playoff win-or-go-home scenario, a guy like Brad Richards with just 8 minutes of PP/4th-line time gives his team a better chance at winning than Kris Newbury. He's got a fucking "A" on his sweater. His presence with the team has to mean something. But what do I know? I hope Torts is right. I hope NY extends the series & brings Richards back with a vengeance to pull off the impossible. Lose tonight, though, and they should share a seat on the next train outta here.


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II.5. How the Great Wind Went from Beacon House
Mary was walking between Diana and Rosamund slowly up and down the
garden; they were silent, and the sun had set. Such spaces of daylight as
remained open in the west were of a warm-tinted white, which can be compared
to nothing but a cream cheese; and the lines of plumy cloud that ran across them
had a soft but vivid violet bloom, like a violet smoke. All the rest of the scene
swept and faded away into a dove-like gray, and seemed to melt and mount into
Mary's dark-gray figure until she seemed clothed with the garden and the skies.
There was something in these last quiet colours that gave her a setting and a
supremacy; and the twilight, which concealed Diana's statelier figure and
Rosamund's braver array, exhibited and emphasized her, leaving her the lady of
the garden, and alone.
When they spoke at last it was evident that a conversation long fallen silent was
being revived.
"But where is your husband taking you?" asked Diana in her practical voice.
"To an aunt," said Mary; "that's just the joke. There really is an aunt, and we left
the children with her when I arranged to be turned out of the other boarding-
house down the road. We never take more than a week of this kind of holiday,
but sometimes we take two of them together."
"Does the aunt mind much?" asked Rosamund innocently. "Of course, I dare say
it's very narrow-minded and--what's that other word?-- you know, what Goliath
was--but I've known many aunts who would think it--well, silly."
"Silly?" cried Mary with great heartiness. "Oh, my Sunday hat! I should think it
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WITH just four days until Iraqis are due to vote on their constitution negotiators are locked in last-chance haggling over a draft that will hold Iraq together.
US and Arab diplomats are bearing down on Sunnis, Shiites and Kurdish leaders in Baghdad's fortified Green Zone to make last-ditch changes to the charter to overcome Sunni opposition. Many officials fear the present draft, facing a referendum on Saturday, will instead tear the country further apart.
If voters approve a charter widely seen as shutting out the once-dominant Sunni minority, many expect a worsening of the strife that has killed so many.
"It's very difficult to reach something that the Sunnis can agree to," Mahmoud Othman, a Kurdish official, said yesterday after the latest talks broke up.
US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, en route to central Asia, said the US had been encouraged by the debate on Iraq's controversial constitution. She predicted that debate among Iraq's diverse ethnic and religious factions would continue until the 11th hour in an attempt to "give the Sunnis some confidence" that the constitution will represent their interests.
But she indicated that the US was not deeply troubled about the possibility of a rejection, if a two-thirds majority of voters in three or more of Iraq's 18 provinces oppose the document. "Whatever the decision, there are next steps. There will be elections in December," Dr Rice said.
"The good news is that you're getting very heavy debate and interest in this entire process," she said, noting that Sunnis are registering to vote in large numbers, including some who disagree with the constitution.
In Austria, presses are printing millions of ballots for Saturday's vote. Iraq's 15.5 million eligible voters are to say "yes" or "no" to a draft constitution that would change the country from a largely secular one with a strong central government to a loose federation of regions with a weak central government under heavy influence from Islamic law.
The constitution would formalise the autonomy that the Kurdish north has enjoyed since the Persian Gulf War. The charter would give the heavily Shiite south the option of splitting off, taking much of Iraq's oil revenue with it. Many Sunnis, who lost power with the 2003 routing of Saddam Hussein, oppose that scenario, saying it would mean the break-up of Iraq.
While international organisations have helped print millions of copies of the draft for voters to study, many residents have yet to see the booklets. In Ramadi capital of the heavily Sunni province of Anbar, one of the centres of the insurgency residents accused the central government of deliberately preventing them seeing the proposed constitution.
Sunnis generally say they will vote against the constitution. While the majority of Sunnis heeded boycott calls and insurgent warnings not to vote in January's national elections, their leaders are now calling on their people to enter the post-Saddam political process to try reject the charter.
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How do you all like my new background. Many, many, thanks and kitty kisses to Miss Maria, meowmy of THE CLAW, Aggie and Maggie who made it for me, and put music on my page also.
She did my brother's Louie's page also - he has a WWII fighter pilot theme. My sisfurs Emma and Charmaine have "girly" pages......but they are girls...so. Can't wait to see what she does for Pete and Buddy.
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Hi Ya'll....
I told my meowmy that she should add more photos of me to my page. The third photo is of me resting on top of the bookcase in our home. If you look close, you can see a cat-shaped photo frame. That is a photo of Maggie May, a cat my meowy lost in April, 2006 (dog attacked her). That's my big brother, Louis, on the left on top of another cabinet.
The other photo is of me "just chilling" on a rug. I had been playing with the little stuffed toy, and just got tired.
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Hi everybody!
I thought it was about time I put something in my diary, since my big sister and brother (Emma and Louie) have diaries. Well, I was born on the property wher my person lives in her FEMA trailer.
Two of my littermates went to the Rainbow Bridge (cars got them), and my sister Tippy, adopted a nice family. Faye (who is now my mommy), petted and fed all of us, and I kept going up to her to get tummy rubs as well. Well, after losing my brother and sisters, I was pretty lonesome, and I noticed that (my now mommy), came out of her trailer twice a day with a big black cat that walked on a leash. I got to chat with him while he was walking, and he told me his person loved kitties, and was very good to he and his sister. Their food bowls were NEVER empty, their coats were brushed at least every other day, and they had a cabinet with nothing but cat food in it!! Sounded pretty good to me.....so one day when she opened the door to bring out the cat food, I just followed her back into the trailer. She petted, me and showed me where the food was. I filled up my tummy, and decided to take a nap. Emma and Louie came over to check me out, Louie remembred meeting me, and Emma was so nice, she groomed my ears (love that!), and I fell right to sleep.
Well, it was no problem to move from sleeping on the rug to sleeping on t he sofa, and then with my new person and kitty brother and sister. We had a cold winter in South Louisiana this year, and I sure enjoyed cuddling with my family. One REALLY cold and rainy day, when my mommy was leaving for work, she looked down at me and said "Benny, do you want to stay inside today?". I looked right up and her and said MEOW!!! Good thing she understands Cat, and knew I meant YES.... I had such a good time playing all day with Emma and Louie, and enjoying all the toy in their toy basket. When our mama came home, she took one look at the trailer, and said "I can see you all have had a good time!" There were toys all over, and in her bed. She just laughed, and petted and kissed all of us. That was when I knew I was a lucky cat, and owned a good person.
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Tom Koller's been letting us follow his journey through unemployment and retraining via the Minnesota workforce programs.
So when a legislative report recently questioned the effectiveness of those retraining programs, we wanted to get his view. Turns out the concerns in the report match up pretty well with Koller's experience.
Laid off as a machinist in 2008, Koller's been navigating state programs for job seekers to become a computer network administrator.
He has a job now after months of working through the state retraining system — but it's not the one he was training for.
Before we look at what Koller's doing now, let's ask a question — Should state jobless programs be judged on how well they help people find good jobs? What should we expect state jobs search programs to deliver.
Post your thoughts below or contact me directly.
Koller, 50, a source in MPR's Public Insight Network from Eden Prairie, was laid off as a machinist in 2008 and entered the state dislocated worker program to retrain for a future as a computer network administrator. He got about $800 for training and earned his first Sun Microsystems certification.
Koller, though, has been unable to find a network administrator job.
He took a job recently — "no skill or education required" — picking up and delivering cable TV and internet equipment. With his unemployment benefits exhausted and savings nearly gone, this was his best option.
Koller figures he can earn up to $30,000 in the new job and his income will likely be low enough that he can still keep getting health coverage from the Veterans Administration.
So he got some training and found some work. But the work wasn't what he trained for and he took it because he absolutely needed the job.
That's basically what the legislative auditor found in surveying displaced workers who'd been through the state programs.
While most people in the programs were generally satisfied with the services they received, only a third felt like it helped connect them with employers who were hiring. Only 39 percent felt the services helped them get a good job.
At the workforce center, he said, the little things worked best.: "People with good attitudes and diverse knowledge doing some coaching. Simple answer and suggestions.Their suggestions matched what I was seeing at the time…"
The audit recommends state officials start surveying people who've used state job help programs to see if they were satisfied with the outcomes.
"Anyone willing to put forth the effort to get ahead, will generally do better than those that choose not to," said Koller. "While it really doesn't take much to take advantage of these programs, it requires more than some are willing or able to do. Emotional, planning, and financial support cannot be forced on anyone. But I am glad it was there."
Koller, by the way, hasn't given up on his dream of being a network administrator.
"As for me and my continued studies, for about a month, they will be put on hold. I need to adapt to the new job first. "
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Do newer dusk to dawn lights cover more area?
So, some roofers broke my mother's dusk to dawn light and I need to get her another. The problem is, it was made/installed back in 1985. It used a 175 watt metal halide bulb (or mercury vapor.. I can't exactly tell for sure.). Anyhow, all the newer dusk to dawn lights use either a 65 watt CFL bulb or a 100 watt metal halide. Do these newer light cover around the same amount of lighting area as the old 1985 lights? I've found one 175 watt mercury vapor fixture, but it's much bigger in diameter (15-18 inches for the new one vs 10-12 for the old one). Is there a way of knowing if the newer fixtures can cover more area with less wattage? Also, are the bulbs just as reliable? Do lumens determine the lighting area coverage? I just want to make things right for my mother. I also had a few other questions..
Can I use a higher wattage bulb in a lower watt fixture? What are the effects of that?
Also, can I use a metal halide bulb in a mercury vapor fixture or any other fixture (the 175 watt bulb bother have the wider diameter screw in base)?
Any contributions would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Here are a few links to the dusk to dawn lights I'm looking at:
No, they are all the same. Just buy one that fits her budget and color choice and be done with it.
Mercury vapor is considerably less efficient than metal halide or sodium. Sodium is more efficient than metal halide, but not by much, and the yellow light is less attractive. CFL may be somewhat more efficient than the others, on par with sodium. Energy cost will greatly outweigh the cost of the fixture within a couple years, so I'd probably go with the most efficient and lowest wattage fixture available. That would be the CFL. Metal halide would be my next best choice. Do not buy a "new" mercury vapor fixture. As of 2008, the manufacture or importation of mercury vapor fixtures and ballasts is prohibited as an energy saving measure. Any mercury vapor fixture you buy now has been sitting around for awhile.
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The Halifax Port Authority has invested significantly over the past five years in infrastructure. We have modern infrastructure, using the latest technology, and world class security. Over the last five years, the private sector has invested over $250 million in port-related infrastructure with the Halifax Port Authority investing over $100 million. The Port has two major Gateway infrastructure projects underway to enhance breakbulk and containerized cargo terminals.
Highlights of infrastructure improvements at the Port of Halifax:
Gateway Infrastructure Projects
The Halifax Port Authority and the Federal Government are jointly investing in two major infrastructure projects at the Port of Halifax. These projects are part of the Halifax Port Authority's long-term strategy for maintaining the port's competitiveness with their core business which is cargo. The Government of Canada is contributing up to $54 million towards the Halifax Port Authority Terminals Improvements Project through the Gateways and Borders Crossings Fund. The federal funding for the South End Terminal is up to $17.5 million, and Richmond Terminal Improvements Project is up to $36.5 million federal funding.
If you have any questions in regards to the Gateway projects please contact Carrie Keating with the Halifax Port Authority at (902) 426-3642.
The South End Container Terminal:
The primary objective of this project is to be able to simultaneously berth and service two post-Panamax ships at the South End Container Terminal. The Port of Halifax has the deepest container berths on the Eastern Seaboard of North America, and this project will ensure that Halifax continues to be able to handle any size ships with operational flexibility. The Port of Halifax is positioning itself as a world-class port, one that provides direct access to and from the economic heartland of North America.
The pier extension and associated dredging for this portion of the project are now complete. The area has been dredged to a new depth of 16 m and the pier has been extended 80 metres long and is 45 metres wide. The pier extension allows the South End Container Terminal to accommodate and provide crane access to two super post-Panamax ships simultaneously.
Other projects that are part of the Gateway funding for the South End Container Terminal include:
- Reconfiguration of the approach road to allow for a smoother turn which is currently underway
- Improved cargo-handling efficiencies, particularly for truck operations, through the construction of a new expanded truck marshalling yard and gate complex.
Richmond Multipurpose Terminals:
This project currently underway and on schedule is valued at approximately $73 million, which is cost shared between the Federal Government and the Halifax Port Authority. This project will upgrade and expand this facility to enable it to handle breakbulk and project cargo. Richmond Terminals, when complete will provide additional capacity for breakbulk operations. This terminal will feature a large lay down area and shed space to allow for growth in this area.
Project Phases:
- The first phase of the Richmond Terminals Project is complete. This phase included the reinforcement of Piers 9 and 9B as the piers date back as far as 100 years old, and needed strengthening. Shed 9 canopy renovations and Shed 9B waste water were also upgraded as part of this phase.
- The second phase includes reconstruction of terminal roadway (now complete) and the extension of pier 9C (underway). The extension in this phase includes nine components: mattress stone, concrete crib construction, crib filling, site backfilling, construction of a steel sheet pile closure wall, new copewall, rail sidings, lights and terminal surface.
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Alyson (Thelin) and James Davison
Alyson and James first met at the freshman Honors Program orientation before they were even formally students at Montclair State. Jim later proposed in the quad, under the same tree where they met on that June day and played the Name Game with their fellow Honors Program students. "We've had nothing but good memories here and think very highly of the school," says Alyson. Both were active on campus. Jim worked at The Montclarion, in several editorial positions, culminating in editor in chief his senior year. Alyson played a leadership role in Lambda Pi Eta, the honor society for communication majors, and also at The Montclarion. Alyson has fond memories of Jim, a Freeman Hall resident, cooking dinners for her on the hallway stove so that she wouldn't have to go home to Clifton between classes. He still does all of the family's cooking.
Montclair State is definitely a family affair for the Davisons: Alyson's grandmother Nella DeGroot Hoving '35 was an alumna, as was her great aunt, Clara DeGroot '33. Nella was introduced to her future husband, Alyson's grandfather Herman Hoving, by her dear friend and classmate Charlotte Hoving Los '34, Herman's younger sister, who later became her sister-in-law. Alyson's sister, Alexandra Thelin '05 '08 MA and Jim's brother Casey Davison '02 are also proud alumni. Perhaps Alyson and Jim's son, two-year-old Andrew, will continue the family tradition as a member of the Class of 2032!


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I went over our budget the other day & discovered that I have enough money each month that I could sign up for a new magazine subscription. My initial thought was to rejoin Cook's Country which is my favorite cooking magazine, but then I thought I should try out a knitting one.
I only have enough for ONE subscription so which would you recommend??
I've only been knitting for two years. I love looking thru all the knitting magazines. But in all honesty to myself, the Interweave one is way beyond my abilities most of the time. I got the latest issue in today's mail. I did see a few handbags that I just downloaded :XX: :XX: from their site that I could possibly do but all of their sweaters are way beyond me.
Personally, I love "Creative Knitting" and "Knit Simple" the most. But that's just IMHO.
I love Vogue Knitting and Interweave Knits
I like Interweave and have requested a subscription for my birthday. Interweave's patterns seem to me to be written for a wider range of sizes, there is ALWAYS a sock pattern in addition to several other cool patterns....
Knitters is my favorite!!!
Interweave is definitely my favorite, from what I've seen---I've only got WalMart to look for mags aroun here, so I haven't seen but about 3! So I ordered Interweave--it seemed the most likely one that I'd actuallly knit from! Hopefully...one day...maybe..
InterWeave Knits is my favorite. There is one called 'Knit.1' that is made for younger knitters like me. Hope that helps. :lol:
Vogue Knitting has been my favorite for about 10 years now. I recently discovered Interweave and it's giving VK a run for its money. VK does have more beginner projects than Interweave.
I love knit.1 It has tons of really neat patterns and some cool stories
You're right. I like it, too.
I love Interweave Knits, too. Creative Knitting isn't bad either--a variety of patterns for all skill levels.


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Re: 20 years Ago: Wrestling Observer
April 2nd, 1988
-- The WWF returned to sellout crowds: 4/21 in New Haven drew 12,000 and 4/22 in Springfield, MA drew 9,000.
-- Brutus Beefcake vs Honky Tonk Man was advertised for SNME, and the program listed it, but Honky Tonk Man didn't wrestle the match. He did appear on three weeks' worth of TV tapings with the belt, so he won't be losing it anytime soon.
-- Everyone expected to be cut is still around.
-- Hulk Hogan is still not booked on any shows through the end of May.
-- Harley Race was hospitalized and had a foot of his intestine removed.
-- There was recently a Savage/Andre dark match where every time Savage was in peril, the fans chanted "We Want Hogan" immediately.
-- Bubba Rogers debuts at the next TV taping. Dave has no idea what they're going to do with him, only that Jimmy Hart said that he's looking for a bounty hunter to get rid of Brutus Beefcake, so maybe that will be his role.
-- The Rougeaus are turning heel soon.
-- Advance ticket sales for shows headlined by Savage vs DiBiase have been surprisingly good, but Andre vs Duggan is struggling to draw.
-- The plan is for Owen Hart to come in July and model him after Tiger Mask, where he's a masked high flyer marketed toward kids. Dave thinks that will go over great, except that there's so much they won't let Owen do in the ring that he's capable of, and there's no one he can work with.
-- The WWF wants to do a TV special of a Randy Savage and Elizabeth wedding. Dave says it wouldn't shock him to see it go head to head with the Great American Bash pay-per-view.
-- The biggest story of the week is Barry Windham turning on Lex Luger and joining the Four Horsemen. The turn took place in Jacksonville, FL, at a TBS taping on 04/20. Windham and Luger were defending the tag titles against Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard when they posted Luger and he juiced, which Dave notes is the first time Luger has juiced in seven months. When Windham tried to make the tag to Luger, he wasn't there on two occasions, and JJ Dillon egged Windham on and finally lariated Luger and Arn pinned Luger to win back the tag titles. "Oh my God, Luger and Brody and did jobs during the same week -- next thing you know the Road Warriors will lose clean." Windham then left for the heel dressing room and the Midnight Rider went into the dressing room after him. He was jumped by "72 heels", who unmasked him before a few of the babyfaces did a save before we could see the Rider's face. The show went off the air with Windham in the limo holding the Rider's mask. "I haven't seen this myself, but from every account, the thing was tremendous, especially when one considers that it obviously was a spur of the moment decision since they had cards set up around the country with Barry & Lex vs. Flair & Arn Anderson or Flair & Tully Blanchard on top throughout the month of May." The turn was done because houses have been disappointing lately.
-- Regarding Crockett Cup, Dave says there are a lot of negative things he should say. The event was very disorganized, especially the first thing. But the wrestling was first rate. The second night in Greensboro was an excellent show by any standards, except those of Jim Crockett, as they only drew 8,500 fans in a 16,000 seat building. "The upper deck was almost as vacant as a Verne Gagne brain wave."
-- "The Greenville Memorial Auditorium is not exactly the sort of building one would expect to house one of your showcase cards of the year. It's not exactly Trump Plaza, actually it's made out of red bricks and looks so old that if the Three Little Pigs built a house made out of them, the Wolf would have easily blown it down. The place has character, though. It's the kind of building and the kind of fans that were the backbone of wrestling before it became 'respectable' and sterile. We had nearly four hours of rabid fans, disorganized action, and not one chant of boring -- almost a complete 180 degree difference from McMahon's glitzy action-lacking tournament of a few weeks back."
-- Dave says the fans had no idea what was going on. Tony Schiavone announced that Barry Windham had pulled out of the tournament and that Lex Luger would still be in and pick a partner. Everyone figured it would be the Midnight Rider and they would go all the way. No explanation was given of what happened in Jacksonville two nights earlier. Everyone also realized early the brackets would be meaningless.
-- The tickets said the show started at 8PM, but all local publicity said 7PM.
-- Ratings for first round matches as follows:
Kendall Windham & Italian Stallion beat The Terminator & Bugsy McGraw by forfeit when Bugsy no-showed
Ivan Koloff & Mighty Wilbur DUD
The Jive Tones vs Rocky King & Nelson Royal *
"At this point, all the way from Mexico were to come the famed Twin Devils, presumably of Los Angeles wrestling fame. Instead we had Curtis Thompson & Gene Ligon in red outfits, identical to the Cruel Connection's outfits (except those were green) that we were to see later in the show. The program said their foes would be the New New Breed, however the theme song for the Lightning Express started playing. Almost the whole song played, with no sign of Brad & Tim. We waited patiently for several minutes until "Fight For Your Right To Party" by the Beastie Boys started playing and the crowd popped pretty big for Chris Champion and disinterested brother Mark Starr."
Chris Champion & Mark Starr vs Twin Devils *1/2
"It was time for the Japanese team to arrive, and looking very Japanese on this night was Johnny Ace, who as far as everyone in the crowd knew was still the Sheepherders' flag boy, and John Savage."
Lightning Express vs Johnny Ace & John Savage *3/4
The Sheepherders vs Cruel Connection 1/4*
Larry Zbyszko & Al Perez vs Ricky Santana & Joe Cruz DUD
"According to our program, the first round was now history and it was time for the Prince of Darkness Death match, or intermission, both of which contained approximately the same level of activity. But wait, out trots Steve Williams & Ron Simmons to take on Rick 'The Dog-Faced Gremlin' Steiner and Mike 'Preppie Murderer' Rotunda. This was supposed to be the last match of the second round since each of these teams received byes (but wait, since Doc & Simmons weren't seeded so why do they have a bye?)" Dave calls the match the first good one of the show.
Rick Steiner & Mike Rotunda vs Steve Williams & Ron Simmons **3/4
Kevin Sullivan vs Jimmy Garvin Prince of Darkness Blindfold match DUD
"Those of you who enjoy Kamala vs George Steele would love this one. Both guys did a good job within the framework of this match, but this tops my most hated gimmick match list." After the match, Sullivan took of the hood and he and Steiner attacked Garvin and Precious took a spill. Ron Garvin comes out for the save, but is followed by Rotunda. Sullivan is using the spike when "the intimidating threesome of Kendall Windham, Ricky Santana and Johnny Ace (out of the babyface dressing room -- wasn't he just a heel in match #4?)" made the save.
"It was time for round two, and this is where it gets confusing. But before round two starts, Tony has another announcement to make, the one we all knew was coming, poor Ronnie was taken to the hospital and now Sting has nobody to team with. The place cheered like mad when they announced Ronnie was injured, which was the first surprising reaction of the weekend. Well, the quick-thinking Jim Crockett Jr. ruled that since Garvin was in the hospital, Sting could continue if he'd pick a partner. And geez, Lex Luger is looking for a partner and put one-and-one together and you got an announcement that made me put my hands over my ears the shrieks were so deafening."
Tully Blanchard & Arn Anderson vs Kendall Windham & Italian Stallion ***
"Out come Kendall 'Gumby' Windham & Italian Stallion, amidst virtually all boos. Their foes, the NWA's leading babyface tag team, Tully Blanchard & Arn Anderson, come out to chants of 'Four Horsemen, Four Horsemen." Good match with tons of heat.
Sting & Lex Luger vs Dick Murdoch & Ivan Koloff ***1/4
"Major heat throughout. Sting and Luger are so over it isn't funny. Lex was so elated out of his mind he threw a dropkick on Ivan (not a good one, but at least he tried)."
Road Warriors vs Jive Tones **
"According to the program, it was time for the Midnight Express to face the New New Breed, but for some unexplained reason the New Breed wound up facing the Powers of Pain in the longest 8:04 of the tournament."
Chris Champion & Mark Starr vs Powers of Pain DUD
"According to the program, it was time for Lightning Express against Powers of Pain, but since we just saw the Powers, maybe it would be the Midnight Express, which on paper is a hot match. But instead, the Sheepherders show up. This wasn't as good as some of their matches were in their invisible feud of about two months back, but still a good well-paced 9:32 with Lightning doing lots of hot moves."
Sheepherders vs Lightning Express ***
"The program now said it was time for The Fantastics to face Perez & Zbyszko, and by sheer coincidence, that's who came out."
Fantastics vs Al Perez & Larry Zbyszko **3/4
"The Fantastics aren't over nearly as well as I expected because too many little girls see them as Rock & Roll Express replacements and I fear that while they are popular and they may be the best tag team in wrestling right now, they may never break the imitation stigma completely."
"Finally it was time for the final match of the evening and out comes Jim Cornette and the Midnight Express, presumably to wrestle Kevin Sullivan's Varsity Club since these were the only two teams still alive that hadn't had second round matches. But wait, here comes Rip Morgan and the Sheepherders, who already won their second round match. There is no explaining this."
Midnight Express vs Sheepherders **
"To cap off the evening, Tony Schiavone announces that the eight remaining teams will wrestle the final three rounds tomorrow night in Greensboro, procedes to announce them and the teams still alive (there are seven of them), and then after the announcement mentions about the 'final eight teams' in Greensboro. I should mention that midway through the card Ric Flair came out to do an interview with Schiavone telling us how great Jim Crockett, the NWA and the tournament were and the winner of Pro Wrestling Illustrated's Most Hated Wrestler Award got a standing ovation and more cheers than anyone on the card save for Sting & Luger. I think I was the only one sitting (gagging myself with my finger when Ric got to the part about how great Nikita was -- at least now we know why his nose is so big) by the time this menacing heel was through."
-- "Before getting to Greensboro, we make a quick detour to Ricky Steamboat's Gym in Charlotte. Taking my secret disguise as a wrestling mark, myself and three other out-of-towners were there to purchase T-shirts and the like for various friends whose ideas of a neato gift are T-shirts of either WWF wrestlers or out-of-town gyms and I figured this way I could kill two birds with one stone. However, the microcephalic guy at the desk refuses to sell me or any of my friends any merchandise. At first I thought he was kidding, but he explained he already had logged everything and besides, look at the clock, it's 5:01 PM, and the gym is closed. Hey I don't work out on vacation anyway, I just want a bunch of T-shirts so some of my friends can improve their summer wardrobe. But no, even after telling him I came all the way from California simply to buy T-shirts he wouldn't budge. Now I may be sarcastic, but I love the Crockett Cup. I get to meet fans from all over the country and see great matches and hang out with friends all at the same weekend. But those Crockett Cup T-shirts are hideous, folks. After looking at the souvenir stand in Greensboro, I realized we should have DDT'd that guy working the desk at Steamboat's on a nautilus machine or something."
By the beginning of night two, most of the audience knew Barry had turned heel through word of mouth and they were buzzing about it, but it didn't air on TBS until everyone had left their home for the Coliseum. Again, everyone cheered when it was announced Ron Garvin was injured. "Then the announcement about Barry Windham withdrawing from the tournament and that the newest member of the Four Horsemen is Barry Windham. People are jumping up and down and hugging each other. This is sick. Fans are chanting for the Horsemen. Don't they boo heels anywhere anymore? Then comes the part about Lex & Sting as a team and it's those eardrum shattering shrieks again of all the women who packed the place. I sure don't miss WWF cards back home."
"The Fantastics are opening with The Varsity Club, which ironically makes sense in the original bracketing."
The Fantastics vs Varsity Club ****
Dave says the heat was through the roof for this one, and Bobby Fulton wants to get over in the worst way, and you can't help but admire him for it. Match went 27:20 and Dave called it the best opening match he had seen in years.
Sting & Lex Luger vs Midnight Express ***3/4
"Having the dubious distinction of following this exceptional action were the Midnight Express and Jim Cornette against the handicap tag team named Sting (with Lex Luger sweating profusely in the corner yelling 'come on Stinger'). Sting isn't one of the elite workers in the world yet (Dave emphasizes yet) but when he's in with a veteran, he can light up a crowd as well as anyone. He does lots of good spots based around his exceptional leaping ability." Cornette took a bump of Magnum TA, who got an incredible reaction, and Dave says Cornette was incredible here. Luger was in 20 seconds in the first round and 31 seconds this time.
Road Warriors vs Powers of Pain ***
They did the Dusty Finish here again, which Dave can't believe. "In fairness to Dusty, I'd bet 70% of the fans fell for it, but you know this has to piss fans off to no end -- witness the empty upper deck. They just did the finish last month in the Fantastics-Midnight match in this same half-empty building."
Midnight Rider vs JJ Dillon
Dave says considering every wrestler has to sell this angle, it should have more heat than anything on the show, but there was just no heat at all. Dusty got a nice reaction, but less than Sting, Luger, the Road Warriors, or the Fantastics. 1/2*
Sting & Lex Luger vs Powers of Pain 1/4*
Lex was in for a full minute this time.
Tully Blanchard & Arn Anderson vs The Fantastics ***1/2
Ric Flair vs Nikita Koloff **3/4
"What can you say about Nikita Koloff that hasn't been said? He can't wrestle. He's not over very big. NOBODY cared about this match. He's not a drawing card. There's a joke among certain wrestlers of certain federations (none of whom work here) that whenever J.J. goes to kiss Dusty's ass late in the afternoon for the fourth or fifth time that day, he can't do it. Nikita's feet are in the way. Ric Flair carried this bum for 30:08 and the fans were into it even though it was a collection of all the same predictable spots."
Tully Blanchard & Arn Anderson vs Sting & Lex Luger ***1/2
"Now sit down. Luger did a great dropkick on Anderson to open the match. Even the fans cheering the Horsemen had to clap for that one. It was past 11 PM and these fans had basically seen one great match after another yet the heat was the hottest for this match."
"So why the half house for the finale? Flair's match meant nothing. This $1 million b.s. isn't believed by anyone but the densest marks and unless you have a strong tournament and the fans know who is in it, tournaments aren't a big draw. This whole Midlife Rider bit has been a flop. They spent too much valuable TV time getting a guy who should be a legend already over and not pushing the guys who theoretically need time to get over. After three years, without one sellout to their credit, Crockett has to re-evaluate this tournament." Dave suggests limiting to 16 teams in the future, and doing 8 matches the first night, with accurate brackets announced in advance.
-- 4/16 in Chicago drew 3,500 fans and a $42,000 house headlined by Ric Flair vs Sting. 4/17 in Charlotte drew a really small turnout. 4/24 at the Omni only drew 1,400 fans. 4/9 in Baltimore drew 9,000 headlined by Flair vs Sting. 4/18 in West Palm Beach drew 2,000 headlined by Flair/Sting/Midnight Rider vs Flair/Arn/Tully. 4/19 in Miami drew 4,000 headlined by Flair vs Sting.
-- Luger got chopped really hard by Flair on the Omni show on 4/24 to a point where he started bleeding, and got very angry, and tagged out immediately.
-- The Great American Bash PPV is scheduled for July 10 and will be headlined by Ric Flair vs Lex Luger.
-- Adrian Adonis has either filed suit or threatened to file suit over breaking his ankle due to the hole in the ring, which ended up costing him a tour of Japan.
-- WCCW is trying to get the Rock & Roll Express and some Mexican wrestlers to come in for the Texas Stadium show on 5/8.
-- CWA is doing a talent trade with World Class. Terry Taylor, Chris Adams, Iceman Parsons, the Von Erichs, and the Freebirds are expected in shortly. The new taping schedule in WCCW frees up their talent to work Monday nights at Mid South Coliseum, and all the WCCW guys desperately need more dates, because WCCW is running less shows because they're not drawing. When the names were announced on TV, there was no real reaction.
-- Downtown Bruno came out on TV dressed liked Ric Flair and called out Jerry Lawler. Robert Fuller jumped Lawler from behind and dragged him around the studio while putting a noose on him.
-- Eddie Gilbert's first angle in Continental was pretty hot. It started with the Dirty White Girl coming out with a black eye and begging and pleading Tom Prichard to come out. Through two matches, she begged him to come out and he refused. She was begging Prichard to help her when Anthony came from behind with handcuffs and a noose and dragged Prichard 60 feet to the ring and hung him with blood coming out of Prichard's mouth. During the brawl, they destroyed the Continental set. They are renaming this the CWF and building a new set.
-- Paul E. Dangerously starts on 5/7, which means Downtown Bruno's days here are numbered.
-- Missy Hyatt will be getting a new talk show segment.
-- Jimmy Golden walked out on the promotion mid-match and is now working for USA Pro for Ron Fuller.
-- Curt Hennig and Jerry Lawler will be doing dates here soon.
-- Dave expects Shane Douglas to come in.
-- Austin Idol is wanting to work full-time in Continental.
-- Strongman Bill Kazamier is also wanting to come in, but is currently injured.
-- Roddy Piper will make a guest appearance for Don Owen on 04/30. He has turned down offers from both the WWF and the NWA in the past year where he would have been paid very well. Dave notes that even when Piper was a WWF headliner, he refused to work the Oregon and Washington shows until the end, when he'd work Seattle and Tacoma, and only after Owen had completely pulled out of those cities.
-- Jesse Barr returned on 4/9.
-- Skip Luther, a blond muscular guy working a fake Lex Luger gimmick, no-showed his debut here, and is expected to be going to the AWA.
-- 4/15 in Calgary drew 1,100 fans. 4/16 in Edmonton drew 950 and $8,800 headlined by another 8-man tag given ****1/2.
-- The long matches wrestled at such a frenetic pace on top are wearing down the main eventers, to a point where most of them are starting to drop weight. Pillman has been doing Snuka splashes off the top of the cage at some of the shows.
-- The Edmonton commission has told everyone there will be no spitting, swearing, or brawling allowed on their shows.
-- Owen Hart is having second thoughts about going to Japan. He is leaning toward doing three Japanese tours per year and wrestling at home the rest of the time.
-- Bruiser Brody dropped the International title to Jumbo Tsuruta on 04/19, doing his first clean job in Japan since 1980.
-- The Road Warriors are coming in early June.
-- 4/12 in Kitakyushu drew 2,100 fans.
-- Because the show has been moved from prime time to Saturday nights, the ratings have dropped into the sevens.
-- Adrian Adonis has lost approximately 80 pounds in preparation for a big comeback and the upcoming New Japan tour.
-- Crowds for the series which started on 4/11 have been horrible.
-- 4/15 in Kamata drew 1,300. 4/12 in Suwa drew 1,540. 4/19 in Gamagori drew 1,470.
-- Antonio Inoki was recently doing a lecture at a school and was asked if he could beat Baba. Inoki responded that if they met and he didn't beat Baba, he would commit suicide.
-- The debut show sold out in 15 minutes. The night before, thousands of fans lined up and slept in front of the box office at Korauken Hall to get the 2,000 tickets priced at $40. More than 6,000 fans were turned away that were standing in line when the ticket office opened. This is believed to be the fastest sellout in wrestling history. Dave says Akira Maeda is the hottest wrestler in Japan due to his shoot kick on Choshu in November. "It was a selfish act and a cheap shot, and one which ironically ended Choshu's long reign as the hottest wrestler in Japan." Dave thinks while this will have a cult following, that the general public won't get into it because there are no high spots or showmanship. However, a Japanese reporter told Dave that won't matter if Maeda is seen as cool. Dave says if the UWF gets over big, it will hurt Baba and Inoki because they will look fake by comparison, and also will kill any chances of the WWF ever becoming competitive in Japan.
-- Kazue Nagahori and Condor Saito both wrestled their retirement matches on 4/2 in Yokohama.
-- Former long-time Atlanta promoter Paul Jones, who promoted in the days of Ed "Strangler" Lewis passed away on 4/17 at the age of 86. When it was announced at Jerry Blackwell's TV taping in Marietta, fans cheered, because they thought it was the Paul Jones manager from the NWA.
-- Bull Nakano has camera time, but no lines in a new movie called "Tokyo Pop".
-- Umanosuke Ueda is planning on running an independent group in Japan this summer, only running towns that are too small for Baba and Inoki, and only using wrestlers with no work right now, like Ryuma Go, Nuboyashi Sugawara, Masahiko Takasugi.
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Since our last post discussing our plans to trial new ways of managing our network, there's been a lot of discussion online and in the media about the potential implications of these plans. Given this, we thought we'd respond to the most common questions that have been raised since our last post in these trials.
"Telstra's goal is to optimise the customer experience by managing congestion on its ADSL network through price, investment and technical means. Traffic on Telstra's ADSL network has on average doubled every 12 months for the past four years, driven to a large extent by growth in demand for real time entertainment. Without continued congestion management further growth in traffic will result in more congestion at peak times, negatively impacting on the customer experience.'
Telstra is trialling network measures that allow customised management of different types of traffic on our network. The technology we are using looks at characteristics of the data packet to identify the type of the traffic present. In short, we are looking at the characteristics of each packet to see the type of traffic, but we are not looking at the content. This means while we identify a packet as being for example, P2P, we do not know or record any of the content or information that it contains.
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You final part covering 'I've paid for 'x' gigabytes under my Telstra plan, aren't I entitled to use them?'
So you are saying we still have the full usage available to us but that parts of the service we use may be slowed.
What about answering…
"I paid for 'x' gigabytes and currently I can access that at my full speed being 'y' Mb's, if I remain in my allocated data as per my plan I pay for, surely I am entitled to use that data at the full speed without any throttling."
Or will you offer a cheaper plan which includes some services throttled?
Absolutely. I caught on to this as well.
TelStra, if you do implement a speed restriction on certain services following the trial (even though you contradict yourself here by saying that P2P services are not being targeted), you are gong to need to offer a second tier of service that does not restrict speed.
It simply will not stand if advertising starts saying:
Average speeds will be lower and actual speeds vary due to a number of factors including network configuration, line quality and length, your exchange, your location, internet traffic, your equipment and software AND WHERE TELSTRA DEEMS THE DATA BEING ACCESSED IS DETRIMENTAL TO NORMAL NETWORK PERFORMANCE. THIS DECISION IS PURELY AT TELSTRA DISCRETION.
There is going to have to be absolute transparency on what Telstras policy is on what data is deemed to be conducive of congestion and the criteria for deciding this. As a customer I will expect to know what data is being slowed and how Telstra assesses that the data I am accessing falls into the criteria.
John, your question "Or will you offer a cheaper plan which includes some services throttled?" That is something we would consider, again the trial is all about lookinhg at how these kinds of plans would resonate with customers. John
John, perhaps you could expand on this:
The technology we are using looks at characteristics of the data packet to identify the type of the traffic present. In short, we are looking at the characteristics of each packet to see the type of traffic, but we are not looking at the content. This means while we identify a packet as being for example, P2P, we do not know or record any of the content or information that it contains.
As someone who is pretty knowledgable about how DPI works, I reckon the statement I quoted above is 100% dead wrong. DPI equipment is designed to inspect the packet content, and use information thus gained to make queuing and switching decisions.
When I send Telstra an IP packet, I expect them to look no further than the layer-3 header, so it can use the source IP address for reverse path filtering and the destination IP address to switch the packet to its destination.
Everything past the layer-3 header is "payload," otherwise known as, "content," the bits referred to in section 6(1) of the Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act 1979 in the part of the Act which defines the offense provision that can send violators to jail for up to two years.
The "D" in "DPI" means that it goes beyond layer-3. That is how these systems work.
In the same way that you were inspecting content to extract URLs during your disastrous SmartControls deployment six months ago, I think you're inspecting content here too.
Please clarify your position: Inside a given IP packet, where does Telstra believe "the content" begins? And which subclause of section 7 of the TIAA does Telstra believe will apply when the trial is complete and DPI equipment is deployed more widely?
– mark
And on an unrelated, non-technical point:
Why does Telstra keep behaving like this? It's downright big-brother spooky to watch a telco take such a massive proprietary interest in the private communications of its customers.
As a company, you used to know that. You would never, for example, employ crack teams of evesdroppers to wiretap subscribers calls to see if you can extract information from conversations which you could use to improve your business model. You used to know that that kind of behaviour was totally beyond the pale.
Yet when it comes to the internet, that kind of behaviour is supposed to be totally okay, and everyone is supposed to adjust their expectations of privacy so you can squeeze more margin out of your ADSL backhaul networks?
Is that really the kind of company you've turned in to? Seriously?
– mark
I've been one of the more voracious critics of this shaping over on Whirlpool. But, on reading that, I'm happier now.
Offering more plans, at a lower cost, that include certain types of traffic shaping sounds like decent idea. As long as you don't increase the price of your current all-you-can-eat plans.
Users would get to choose, a lot would go for the lower cost plans and your premium users would be be happy.
legless, i appreciate your response here. John
Why are you running this trial when you know very well the data collected will be absolutely void of any meaning.
Let me put it into context with a quote from a pretty smart guy around the ISP scene which kinda puts what you plan to do into perspective:
"We'll shape P2P traffic, but any customers that could be affected by that can opt out.
Customers that aren't affected can stay in the trial.
– That'll give us some quality data."
See a problem with that?
Daniel, we will provide incentives to participate so that we can include customers of all shapes and sizes. cheers John
The last point needs clarification.
If you affect the speed of data consumption then you will in some cases prevent a customer using their full data usage entitlement.
It seems disingenuous to suggest there are no cases under which this could happen.
jason, no intent to be disingenuous. Wording was designed to clarify the intent of trial, which is to create best possible customer experiences during busy network periods (not to reduce customer total usage amounts). John
I think that the statement "In countries with access regimes like Australia's (eg the UK), regulators have generally not seen a need to regulate these practices as the discipline of the market protects consumer interests." is possibly disingenuous.
It is true that in a reductionist sense, the open market we have, and other (european, predominantly) markets have in ICT have not necessitated this kind of regulation.
It is also true that as consumers, we might yet need the defence of a declared regulatory intervention, and that market dominance, and relationships between content and carriage (which in the case of foxtel, cannot be said to be completely of no relevance to Australia, since this name explicitly invokes the joint-venture nature of fox and telstra)
So good on you for addressing it, but no. This does not mean it has no relevance now, or in the future.
I disagree with the statement made above:
". The key characteristic of Bittorrent peer to peer traffic that is relevant to our network traffic management trials is the fact that most such traffic is not time-critical"
This is incorrect…
P2P traffic is as varied as the rest of internet traffic everywhere. Blizzard Entertainment uses it for patches for software such as Starcraft, World of Warcraft etc. Other software makers use it for patch distribution as well.
Bittorrent is currently testing live streaming of videos/TV (live.bittorrent.com), will you discriminate against this technology before it hits mainstream use? This then begs of the question of wether Telstra will be breaching competition law by discriminating against a competitor (Telstra offers Bigpond movie/TV downloads). I think you'll be risking ACCC complaints by going down this path..
Brendan, we do understand there are a variety of traffic types with different characteristics. Hence why we are seeking to trial options that work most effectively across them. John
A far less balanced response than I've seen on other forums but let me weigh in…
What most people who are complaining seem to forget is that available bandwidth is not infinite. Does Telstra have plenty of bandwidth? Yes. Is Telstra selling that bandwidth profitably? Undoubtedly yes. Is the amount of bandwidth they have available growing at a fast enough rate to cater for the growth in consumer consumption? Hell No! And that's the point that is being made. Mass consumer consumption of data is far more than doubling each year and if actions aren't taken, we'll wind up in the same boat we were in shortly after ADSL came out (where up to 80:1 contention ratios were not uncommon in some areas) with massive congestion issues. We are already starting to see this in many regional areas (anyone here from the Central Coast?) and the pithy answer "well Telstra should just run in more bandwidth" just doesn't fly.
Chambers is quite correct in focusing on time-sensitive and non-time sensitive traffic as a means of demarcation. Both those traffic types are growing exponentially for completely different reasons and thus have to be addressed very differently.
Time sensitive traffic is growing mainly due to the growth of legitimate IP-TV/IP-Movie services which chew up horrendous amounts of bandwidth when delivering HD or full HD content. Video Conferencing is also on the move, particularly with decent VC clients being built right into people's television sets and this is also a big bye muncher. VoIP is also growing exponentially, and it's probably the most sensitive traffic of all but at least each session consumes a relatively miniscule amount of bandwidth.
Non time sensitive traffic is pretty much everything not delivered in real-time and this is growing just as quickly. The traditional culprits of Email, P2P and software patching have been joined by monsters like full software distribution (e.g. Steam, every single Linux distro, etc.) and online storage (e.g. Dropbox, Skydrive, etc.). These all demand vast amounts of bandwidth and will take all they can get.
The purpose of traffic shaping of any sort from a carrier perspective is to ensure the reliable delivery of the first sort of traffic at the expense (albeit as minimal as possible) of the second. That is not a blow against Net Neutrality, that is Net Sanity and is what is practiced on pretty much every business network in the world (we usually just call it QoS though that's again an oversimplification).
That Telstra is looking to deal with these issues now, before people start getting juttery video and dropped phone calls, shows that they are planning for future demands, not that they are "screwing everyone over". Most ISPs do it, some tell as about it and other don't but ultimately, the only alternative to traffic shaping will be crappy real-time content for all users (taking us back to 2001-2002).
By the way, comments about DPI being a breach of the Telecommunications act are both wrong and invidious. DPI can be used in this fashion if the content inspected is logged and those logs are reviewed but that is not is what is being proposed (and to do so without notification would indeed certainly qualify as unlawful surveillance). The legitimate use of a DPI traffic shaper is to determine traffic types through pattern recognition (Procera calls this "Brown Logic") and then enforce policy upon those patterns. A proper DPI will be able to tell the difference (for example) between P2P file sharing and P2P media streaming as they have different patterns. No human intervention will be required in order for the device to do its job which – if done as described by Mr Chambers – is to ensure that sensitive traffic doesn't get impacted by non-sensitive traffic.
this is a brilliant post. its filled in gaps in what i thought i knew and will hopefully educate more worried customers and alleviate their concerns, not to mention reduce the inaccurate mentions of privacy invasion.
I love it when people contradict themselves in sequential paragraphs:
"Telstra is not targeting one particular form of traffic"
then 2 sentences later
"One of the options being examined under this trial is the shaping of specific services in certain circumstances and within certain times."
So essentially what is being said here is don't worry, we aren't targeting any particular form of traffic, we are selectively shaping specific services.
Apparently there is a difference?
GiantDave you seem to have misunderstood me. Many people assume this trial is about P2P traffic, all day every day. Incorrect – hence "Telstra is not targeting one particular form of traffic". We are looking at ways to optimise the experiences of our customers in busy periods across many traffic types, hence "the shaping of specific services in certain circumstances and within certain times". Hope that helps. John
I do not really see the problem with this.
People seem to be missing that this is only a trial, it is not solely targeting P2P and it is only being trialled during peak demand periods.
During peak times telstra may slow non time critical data so that time critical data like VoIP can travel without being impacted or slowed.
Consider 400 people all connected to the same exchange who all want to download a movie (legal or not) when they get home from work at around 6PM.
If all of those people have 20Mbit ADSL2 then that can saturate a 1 Gigabyte connection to the exchange.
If this is the only connection that the exchange has then this will mean that for all other people their internet experience will be sub standard. (Think of trying to use your mobile phone on New Years Eve or at a large concert)
If telstra processes this traffic at the lowest priority then they can temporarily reduce the speed of this traffic when other people want to use a service such as VoIP/Skype or send an email which works best when it is processed as a higher priority.
As a solution, have your computer download the movie while you are at work or while you sleep, these are not peak times so your transfer will not be slowed.
"What if I'm not a part of this trial? Will the technology being used in this trial touch my broadband service?
All individuals whose broadband service may be touched by this trial will be given the opportunity to opt-out if they do not want to be part of the trial."
So only those people not going to be affected will participate. Great idea, lets exclude the impacted people, conduct a trial and claim it was success then role it out to everyone. What an awesome idea.
Good post Telstra. I'm one of the people that don't instinctively trust you as a company because of the way you've behaved in the past, and you'll be paying for those mistakes for a while, but you are changing. Continuing this transparency and open dialogues is one of the best things you can do as a company. As much as I want to hate Telstra, all my experiences in the past year or so have been positive. My reading of the comments are that people are worried about throttling and limitations, whereas I'm reading the trial is more about prioritisation.
At the end of the day, customers get worried because they are locked into a contract and they're worried they're no longer going to get what they signed up for. I don't know how you could have an escape hatch for those that decide changes to your service aren't what they wanted, but it would certainly build trust and allow you to ask customers to give a little trust to evaluate whether the service meets their needs or expectations. Good luck.
You start fiddling with what I can and can't do with a product I purchased in good faith and I will be out of this contract faster than you can imagine after obtaining legal advice on what constitutes a binding contract and what activities later imposed by the provider invalidate that contract.
If you bothered to read the contract that YOU signed then you would know that:
What is the BigPond ADSL service?
2.1 The BigPond ADSL service is a broadband service which gives you:
(a) access to the world wide web, BigPond Broadband web hosting services, email service and global newsgroups;
(b) the ability to upload and download files to and from the global internet using the file transfer protocol;
(c) access to Telnet and native HTTP access to global gopher services; and
(d) other services we may advise to you from time to time.
(from Part C – ADSL in the BigPond Service section of Our Customer Terms)
By implementing DPI or slowing of a particular service during peak times Telstra are still providing you with the ADSL service which you agreed to receive.
This will do nothing to invalidate the contract.
Will adding the DPI filter affect game lag?
Why don't you change to off-peak plans instead? Reduce peak download allowance to get people to download in off-peak times? This seems like an easy solution, unless there is another reason for using DPI.
Will you be adding cheaper internet plans that have DPI targeted advertising, like they do in the USA?
Here's a question or two for you John.
If your so worried about band width then why on earth did Telstra offer those Mega download plans to start with?
As as YOU have said and I quote "the network traffic is growing at double the amount for the past four years".
Yet you have sat on your hands all that time and didn't expand your network enough even though paraphrasing your own words we saw this coming and all the while still selling these mega plans.
Is this just greed? Or are you and I assume not, just being stupid?
Now you want to do this trial to make the "Telstra customer experience better". Really, John !
Don't change the rules of the game just because you didn't do the work to win that game.
Myself and many other "Telstra customers experience" was just fine, You offered Megabytes and service we paid good money for it. Win Win.
I leave with some good advice from my third grade teacher he said "Failing to plan is planning to fail"
Don't make loyal customers pay for your failing.
This has nothing to do with your so called "mega" plans.
Just because Bigpond has offered larger plans in the past does not mean those plans are responsible for the increase in data consumption.
In fact the increase in data consumption by consumers would have caused Bigpond to introduce the larger plans.
Very rapidly consumers have wanted to consume more data through internet connected TVs, smart phones, tablets, photo frames and so on. Look at the uptake of internet connected devices over the past several years and it will likely closely resemble the increased demand for bandwidth and data consumption.
Looking at the plans, 500GB (500,000 Megabytes) on ADSL 2, say you can connect at 20 Megabit and can reliably download at 2 Megabytes per second.
Over the course of the month (30.4 days) you could download 5,259,480 Megabytes.
That is 10.3 times your monthly usage allowance.
So slowing your speed for a few hours really is not going to impact on your ability to consume all of the data which you paid for.
I dont know what the peak times are, lets assume they are 3PM to 9PM so 6 hours.
Now during this time lets assume your speed is slowed to 10 Megabit
This gives you a daily average speed of 17.5 Megabit for the day, call it 1.75 Megabytes per second
At this speed you could download 4,602,045 Megabytes in a month. This is still 9.2 times your monthly allowance.
However telstra is not going to flat out reduce the speed of your internet connection for the peak time, they are only going to slow the transfer of non time critical services so time critical services can flow uninterrupted.
In fact all telstra needs to allow you to consume 500GB of data is offer you a 1.557 Megabit/second plan and if they simply offered this speed to every consumer on a 500GB plan there would be no need for them to trial that they are trialling. However as a consumer you do not want to consume your 500GB evenly in a way which is even, you want to consume it when you are at home and not sleeping, in peak times.
So you therefore demand a speed which is much greater and could theoretically allow you to consume over 10 times the data you have paid for and offering this speed to every consumer is not easily achievable or cheap. This applied to every ISP, not just Telstra. (See below for another explanation of this)
If you do not think Telstra is expending their networks to cope with the increased demand then look at their mobile network.
4G was introduced not long ago and they are already now testing Class 4 4G devices which offer greater speed. Why? Because the faster you can access the internet on a mobile device the less time you are connected to the phone tower transferring data, slowing other people down.
If telstra was not interested in expending their network they would simply wait until the next technology came out rather than invest in allocating more spectrum and take a smaller step from Class 3 4G to Class 4 4G
This post from Whirlpool I think explains one of the problems with providing an internet service
I knew this topic would spark a lot of debate, I'm in an odd position myself in that i work within the Telco industry so i see all the costs associated with delivering any service to a customer.
I find the situation very similar to the power industry who supply power and the apparent gold plating of the power network, like the power network there are very big peaks in demand for the network, congestion is similar to a brown out on the power network not enough to meet the demand.
Think it like this.
1 Customer 500GB quota to deliver that over the entire month (28 days) i require
17.85 GB per day
0.74 GB per hour
0.20 MB per second
1.65 mbit per second
I can tell you that the wholesale costs to provide you with just 1.65mbit is greater than your monthly bill. Add to that i still need to add transmission and tail costs. The numbers don't add up.
It gets worse because customers don't use the bandwidth averaged over the month. They use it mostly during the peak times. Lets say peak times are 6pm-12pm (6 hours 25% of the day) to provide all of that 500GB in just those hours i now need 6.6mbit per customer.
So i buy 6.6mbit but it only gets used 25% of the time, i still have to pay for the 6.6mbit to be able to handle the data during peak only.
It can't get worse can it, but it can. What are our access speeds 2>24mbit for DSL and ~100mbit for cable.
The users now expect that they should be able to use all that access speed whenever they want, i've already said it costs more than your monthly bill to provide the minimum required, how the hell do i provide 100mbit whenever you want it? At a cost less than you have given me?
Taking into account your statement about this trial and other well-informed viewpoints in the comments I can't help but think that John Lindsay, CTO at iiNet, statement is closer to the real reason behind this Telstra move. He stated it's purely a business decision to avoid upgrading its ADSL network and introducing 'boiling-the-frog' throttling to its customer base. He also suggested Telstra get rid of its 500GB plans and have a max of 100GB plans in order to shift big users away from the company which would free up areas of this congestion. As others have quite rightly pointed out if a customer takes and pays for a certain amount bandwidth they are entitled to use all of that bandwidth without restriction.
>CTO at iiNet also suggested Telstra get rid of its 500GB plans and have a max of 100GB plans in order to shift big users away from the company
That is coming from the CTO of a competing company who knows if Telstra was to drop the higher level plans that the users would be forced to move to another ISP and if iiNet happens to offer those plans they could potentially increase their subscribers.
Taking into account your statement about this trial and other well-informed viewpoints in the comments I can't help but think that John Lindsay, CTO at iiNet, statement is closer to the real reason behind this Telstra move. He stated it's purely a business decision to avoid upgrading its ADSL network and introducing 'boiling-the-frog' throttling to its customer base. He also suggested Telstra get rid of its 500GB plans and have a max of 100GB plans in order to shift big users away from the company which would then free up areas of this congestion. No?
As others have quite rightly pointed out if a customer takes and pays for a certain amount bandwidth they are entitled to use all of that bandwidth without restriction.
Feb 27, 2013Reply
I've been put on this trial and did not receive a letter or email in regards to get off it. I've bee on the phone for the last 3 days to tech support, iTAM and complaints. Only one person in all of those departments actually knew this trial was going on, however he didn't have the phone number to call to get myself taken off this trial.
If anbody has it, can you please send it too firstname.lastname@example.com ?
I'm sick of my world of warcraft updating at 5 – 10kbs
Feb 28, 2013Reply
Hi Wade,
The trial has not yet commenced. If you're experiencing slower than normal speeds I recommend you speak to Bigpond Tech Support on 133 933.
Mar 26, 2013Reply
Nick I appreciate your balanced comments here. John
Oct 1, 2013Reply
Can you please provide more details on the vendors taking part in this trial?
Apr 30, 2014Reply
Just more corporate spin on what is a pile of the proverbial – I would have thought it would be a case of "I pay for a service, which provides me a set amount of data per month at acceptable speeds", rather than a case of "we've oversold capacity on our network, let's spin this".
Just as well Telstra's shaping is hilariously easy to get around….
Jun 21, 2014Reply
how do i opt out ?
and why was i opt-in in the first place ?
Jun 23, 2014Reply
Hi David,
This trial actually finished some time ago, but those who did take part were invited to be part of it.
I hope this helps clarify 🙂
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No record highs? I did a quick count from what I could find on weather.com and found for my area 21 record highs since 2000 and just 1 record low in that time.
All the data shows that the planet is warming. Maybe not where you're sitting, but on the over all average. Glaciers are melting, ocean levels are rising, climates are changing. The question is why?
A count from the same weather.com data found that from 1892-1899 there are 19 record highs, and 84 record lows still standing. It would be easy to site that as further evidence of "global warning" but much of that was due to the eruption of Krakatoa in 1893, which was certianly not caused by humans.
My dad talks about how when he was in school they taught that we were headed into an ice age. Maybe we have caused global warming, and have saved the world from an ice age in the process.
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