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Winona Republican-Herald, The (Newspaper) - February 6, 1953, Winona, Minnesota Partly Cloudy, Colder Tonight And Saturday Help Your Heart Fund Help Your Heart VOLUME 52, NO. 299 SIX CENTS PER COPY WINONA, MINNESOTA, FRIDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 6, 1953 EIGHTEEN PAGES This Rare Picture of a jet plane crash was taken last Sep- tember at the Faraborough Air Show in England. The amateur photographer who took it, H. H. J..0rr, rushed his film to crash investigators, who held it for study until recently. Orr then won a prize with it in a London Daily Mail newspaper picture con- test. A tool-maker, Orr quit smoking to buy a camera. He took the remarkable picture with a Leica camera equipped with a long- focus lens. His exposure was of a second at f 4.5 aperture. He was 25 to 30 yards from the crash scene. The plane, a De Havilland 110 Jet fighter, disintegrated as the pilot leveled off after a dive in which he crashed the sound barrier. The twin booms splintered apart and the cockpit hurtled on and crashed into a runway at the split second this picture was taken. Identifiable ob- jects included: 1. Body of Pilot John Derry or Engineer Tony Richards; 2. cockpit canopy; 3. ejection seat; 4. cockpit door; 5. rear section of canopy. (AP Wirephoto from Life Magazine to The Republican-Herald) Hope of Tax Cut Is Fading Jy JOSEPH and STEWART ALSOP WASHINGTON word is go- ing out from the White House that the most significant passage in President Eisenhower's message on the State of the Union was the warning against any reduction in tax revenue at this time. The Pres- ident was not just reproving the House Ways and Means Commit- tee for its impulsive move to cut personal income taxes. He may even be forced to ask for tem- porary -renewal of the cumber- some, unjust, and widely detested excess profits tax. Whatever decision is finally taken, the rethinking of tax policy that is now in process is the most significant event of the Eisenhow- er administration to date. It means that President Eisenhower and his advisers are really getting to grips with the gigantic and intractable problems that confront them. What has happened is fairly sim- ple. Perhaps because it is always Pay-as-You-Go Budget Sought By JACK BELL and WILLIAM F. ABROGAST WASHINGTON HI The Eisenhower administration scribed as aiming today at a pay-as-you-go spending budget, with sharp cutbacks in prospect for funds voted by Congress in past years. Congress members who have talked with Budget Director Joseph M. Dodge said they gained the impression that an unofficial ceiling of was de amount of ex- pected be placed on Treasury spending in the fiscal year beginning July 1. This would represent a cut of nearly 10 billion dollars under the outgo estimated by former Presi- dent Truman in his budget mes- sage. It would balance the budget if there were no cuts in taxes. In this connection, Secretary of the Treasury Humphrey, Dodge Tugboat Strike Still Paralyzes N. Y. Waterfront NEW YORK UP) Most of the world's biggest waterfront still was paralyzed by a strike today despite a court order ousting tugboat pickets from the city's piers. Members of the waterfront's all- powerful AFL International Long- ___________ shoremen's Association (ILA) took Union message on Monday that Grand Jury to Indict Triple Murder Suspect GLENCOE, Minn. UP) Mc- Leod County attorney said today he will ask District Judge Harold Flynn Monday to call a grand jury to consider indicting Arthur Meli- char, young farmer charged with murder in a triple slaying near I vice. Farm Price Support Cut Indicated New Program Aims at Full Parity Prices By OVID A. MARTIN WASHINGTON H! Long rang Earm policies of the Eisenhower ad ministration will depend less on controversial agricultural price sup port programs than those deyelopec under past Democratic administra tions. This was made clear Thursday by Secretary of Agriculture Benson at his first news conference. Present farm programs, as en acted under RooseveLt and Truman administrations, make price sup. ports the major mechanism for stabilizing farm prices. These pro- "grams are due to continue through 1954. Long-Range Programs Benson said, however, that in the meantime, "there will be formu- lated long-range programs which will more fully and effectively ac complish our over-all objectives." Those objectives, the new farm chief said, will be full parity prices and incomes for farm people in the market place, with a minimum of government restrictions. The question of price supports is one of the most controversial issues facing farm leaders in and out of Congress. Some and they include many Republi- to keep present high- level supports for an indefinite per- iod. Farm organizations are split on the issue. Other congressmen favor return to a flexible price support system under which price floors would be high in times of crop shortages to encourage greater production and lower in times of surpluses to dis- courage overproduction. What Benson had to say about the place of price supports in a farm program was open to the in- terpretation that he favored flex- ible supports as a long-range de- Price Supports i He said price supports should Arnold Beneke, the county at-1 provide insurance against disaster Hutchinson Tuesday. Lifts All Wage Curbs L Pilots Of This Radically New Type of U. S. jet night fighter plane-----the slot down Hed planes over Korea with- out even seeing them, the Marine Corps announced in Seoul. The new Marine plane, a twin-jet built by Douglas Aircraft Co., made a secret appearance in Korea several months ago. It is equipped with an intricate radar system which locks the plane on- a target in darkness. (AP Wirephoto) torney, told the Associated Press that, if a grand jury is called, he will ask that the 26-year-old Meli- char be indicted on three counts to the farmer, should help stabi- lize national food supplies, but should not tend to prevent shifts in crop production or encourage Explosion Rocks School at Austin P of 'mJrder and have discussed the possibility of murder. a time at the excess profits tax on business which raises about 2V4 billion dol- lars yearly. This tax will expire June 30 unless renewed. Tax Cuts to Wait Without mentioning the excess profits levy specifically, President Eisenhower said in his State of the easy to be persuaded by one's own campaign oratory, the new Admin- istration at first really believed that any one who was willing to "cut out waste" could balance the budget and reduce taxes. Simply by "cutting out the billion deficit in President Tru- man's farewell budget was to be made to vanish. And at least enough slack was to be gained to "We don't know anything about any court order." Shortly after midnight a state Supreme Court justice issued an order temporarily restraining tug- boat crewmen from picketing piers. As long as the pickets are there the tugboat crewmen's fellow union members the longshoremen tax cuts should await budget bal- ancing efforts. House Speaker Jo- seph W. Martin of Massachusetts reiterated last night his opposition I W-iV tr. am, Melichar be committed excess profits tax. Real Cuts Doubtful The able and hard-working new Budget Director, Joseph Dodge, was the first of the Eisenhower appointees to come to Washington to learn the ropes. It was Dodge who had to answer the question, how much really could be saved by "cutting out waste." The dreary answer has been found to come in three parts. First, about SI billion can prob- ably be saved by economies in the normal government outlays. And it will be politically very pain- ful to save even one billion in the small but sensitive civil sector of the budget. Second, perhaps as much as S1.5 billion can be lopped off Presi- dent Truman's request of bil- lion for foreign aid. The final de- cision on foreign aid requests will await the return from Europe of Secretary of State John Foster Dulles and Mutual Security Direc- tor Harold Stassen. Yet the fact remains that deep cuts in the foreign aid program will undermine the great structure of NATO defense, of which Presi- dent Eisenhower himself laid the foundations. Furthermore, actual increases of some types of foreign aid are almost certainly unavoid- larger aid to Chiang Kai- shek; for a bolder program in In- dochina; and quite possibly for a greater effort to solve the men- acing problem of the Middle East. The judge said he considered the picketing an illegal secondary boy- cott against the passenger and freight shipping lines which are not involved in the labor dispute. To be official the order must be served, however. And the problem was how copies could be served to to any immediate tax reduction, Martin said on a television pro- gram that Secretary of State Dul- les had told him he could "cut the State Department almost in two." "He can do Martin added. Saying there are other places where savings can be accom- plished, Martin went on: "We have got to cut taxes but I believe it is good, humble common sense to ap- proach the reductions of appropri- ations first." Dulles' reported determination to halve his department was held out as a target for all federal agen- cies today by Rep. Taber tions Committee. Melichar is held in the McLeod County jail here on a coroner's warrant charging murder. He was arrested after the fatal shooting of his widowed mother, Mrs. Mary Melichar, 70; her invalid son, San- ford, 22, and a neighbor, Rodney Mosel, 16. Carl Baumetz, 53, a fourth vic- tim of the shootings, remained hos- pitalized at Hutchinson, but was taken off the critical list. e said he will not ask that to a men- tal institution. He said though that if Melichar is indicted by a grand jury, Judge Flynn then could said, should they sidize inefficiency in agriculture. These are arguments often made by proponents of flexible supports and foes of high-level, inflexible supports. Subsidies should be avoided, Ben- son said. "Too many he said, "are calling on Washington to do for them what they should be will- ing to do for themselves." Benson said the GOP farm pol- icy will emphasize further devel- opment of both domestic and for- eign markets for farm products. A decline in overseas demands in such products has contributed to recent farm price setbacks. AUSTIN, Minn. Wl A terrific explosion today wrecked the 000 eln Grade school here, injuring eight workmen, one of them crit- mained standing were bulged out, Most of the roof was caved in. The structure will have to be rebuilt from scratch. Critically hurt was George E. ically. The explosion came just a Spicer, 36, 268 Elm, St. Paul, one few days before students were to I of several workmen that had been occupy the building. Teachers in the adjacent older structure took over and quickly had nearly 400 students file outside to safety. In most instances they gathered up wraps as they left. Some 50 smaller youngsters, nearer _- i (.wuaj uj -lausr v-tv-iviy, pckets spread over scores of miles I chairman of the House Appropria- along the waterfront. The order was obtained by coun- sel for 67 shipping companies, in- cluding many of the world's larg- est. It is effective pending a hear- ing next Tuesday. Waste Material Of Pork Needed, Consumers Told AUSTIN, Minn. house- wife's habit of looking upon fat the addition, immediately were sent to exits and their teachers later carried out the coats and caps. The addition, under construction for nearly a year, was destroyed. Those wall sections which re- refer Melichar to psychiatrists for Earlier Secretary Benson said an examination. j recent declines in farm prices do not constitute an emergency re- quiring special government action. He expressed belief at his first 1 news conference as secretary that there will be no further marked decline in prices in the near future. Benson said cattle prices, which have dropped the most in recent weeks, should stabilize soon and possibly strengthen. No requests for government fi- tor said here. Taber has called for overall cuts E. F Ferrin head of the ani of at least 10 billions in the next! fiscal objective he said will require the full co-operation of every agency. linial husbandry department at the Uni- versity of Minnesota, addressed farmers attending the Minnesota- Iowa Swine Institute. fle his views on the "fact" Senate Vote Assures Wisconsin Reapportionment Referendum What About Defense Third, and finally, there is the largest single item in the Tru- man billion for de- (Continued on Page 9, Column 1.) ALSO PS Duluth Polio Victim Has Son DULUTH, Minn. Mrs. Thom- as Ward, 22, polio victim paralyzed from her shoulders down, gave birth in an iron lung today to a 4-pound boy. The baby arrived on Mrs. Ward's 22nd birthday. She has been since Nov. 3. a polio patient MADISON a vote of 18-11, the Wisconsin Senate concurred today in an assembly resolution calling for area-population reap- portionment of Senate districts. The issue now goes to state citizens at the April 7 election. A 13-hour filibuster in the Wis- consin Senate ended early today when a handful of Democrats and a few Republicans who are bucking a resolution for area-population re- apportionment were ou'tmaneu- vered. The er.d of the marathon talkfest came suddenly about Sen. Knowles, Republican floorleader, ?ot the floor when opponents of the resolution for a constitutional change grew slightly careless. He moved adjournment and won, 22 to 3. Opponents tried for a call of the 3ouse on adjournment move but failed because Knowles had all of bis forces present. The senators bucking area and population reapportionment, plan- ned to continue their fight today and had a new roadblock prepared that was to be tossed in when the Senate reconvened. They contend the wording of the resolution which already has pass- ed the Assembly is faulty in that it would set up election of assem- blymen this November instead of in 1954. ed at 9 a. m. Thursday. After a brief morning and a two- hour adjournment in the afternoon Sen. Nelson (D-Madison) said he the session continued until after would offer an amendment to the midnight. Convince Others resolution to change the wording If he can convince others that his interpretation of the resolution is correct, it would have to go back to the Assembly, and the fighi would have to start all over again. Nelson believed a change in the resolution wording also might mean work of the 1951 Legislature m passing it for the first time also would be undone. The wording under question in ;he resolution is: "The members of the Assembly ihall be chosen biennially, by sin- gle districts on the Tuesday suc- ceeding the first Monday of No- vember after a'doption of this amendment y Those are the same words that are in the original constitution They applied then to set up elec- tions in even numbered years. Now, however, by leaving the words "after adoption of this amendment" in the resolution, it would provide, Nelson said, that the elections be held this Novem- ber. Sen Maier (D-Milwaukee) led the fight on the resolution that start Dramatize Importance Purpose of the filibuster was to dramatize importance of the reso- lution, -Maier said. He conceded his forces did not have enough votes to prevent passage of the resolu- tion in the Senate but if he coulc focus considerable attention on ii the resolution might be defeatec in April. The resolution would change the constitution to provide that Senate be redistricted on the basis of population and area and that the Assembly be reapportioned by population. Maier and other speakers buck- ing the resolution claim it would deprive heavily populated areas of rightful representation. Their long speeches held fairly close to this line. At times some of the senators got off the subject slightly only to be brought back promptly when Republicans who "avor the resolution objected. Under Senate rules, the discus- ion must be limited to the subject t hand and there can be no read- ing from manuscripts except by unanimous consent that the nation's economy is soum He said that soundness was marke by full employment and high in come. Benson said today, in reply I an inquiry, he saw no parallel be tween recent farm price which have amounted to 11 pe cent during the past 12 and price setbacks which precede the severe farm depression of th 30's. He said he endorsed the idea o government price supports at lev els which would prevent undue dis aster. He declined, however to say at what levels he believed price; should be supported. He promisee that the department' would carry out price support commitments an( requirements of present legislation Two Senate Democrats Wednes day accused Benson of inaction and declared the governmen should take swift steps to bolster the prices of beef cattle. WEATHER FEDERAL FORECAST Winona and Vicinity Partly cloudy tonight and Saturday. Cold- er tonight. Low tonight 19, high Saturday 31. LOCAL WEATHER Official observations for the 24 hours ending at 12 m. today: Maximum, 37; minimum, 24; noon, 30; precipitation, .07 (1 inch of sun sets tonight at sun rises tomorrow at AIRPORT WEATHER (No. Central Observations) Max. temp, 34 at p. m.- Thursday, min. 25 at a. m. :oday. Noon over- cast at feet, wind 16 miles per hour from west, visibility 15 29.66 steady, hu- midity 87 per cent. War of Nerves Against Reds Launched by Ike By DON WHITEH6AD WASHINGTON H) President Eisenhower already has opened his promised campaign of psychol- ogical warfare against the Com- munists. The first move has been to keep the Reds guessing about the pre- cise mission of the U. S. Seventh Fleet in Far Eastern waters. And in the future, it was learned today on good authority, the Presi- dent can be expected to try to de- velop psychological warfare into a major part of the hot and cold wars against the Communists. "We're not going to telegraph all our punches to the one source asking anonymity said. "The Reds have held the initiative for years in psychological warfare we intend to. take it from them." Eisenhower told Congress in bis State of the Union message Mon- day that he was issuing instruc- ion.s which would remove the Seventh Fleet as a "shield" for the Communists of Red China. One effect of such a move would be to clear the way for Chiang Kai- shek's Chinese Nationalist troops o raid the China mainland from Tormosa. But even though Eisenhower aid "I am issuing instructions'1 o the fleet, not one official word has been said as to whether the rders already have been issued r just what the fleet may have ieen directed to do. doing plumbing and carpentering in the wing. Spicer and seven others were taken to St. Olaf Hos- pital. The other victims: Ray Mallon, Albert Lea, hand bruised and cut. Everett Olson, Austin, leg frac- ture. Samuel C. Hoag, Austin, head in- juries and scalp lacerations. Ernest Wolfe, Austin, back in- jury and possible internal injuries. Art Titus, Austin, arm, head and hand burns. Roy Bakken, Austin, minor cut: and bruises. Lee Vocker, St. Paul, architect- ural supervisor for Toltz, King and Day, Inc., St. Paul architectural firm, hospitalized for examination. Cause of the explosion was a mystery. The blast was set off when Titus was putting asbestos on a' steam pipe. The bulb of an exten- sion light broke and the explosion ripped the building. Puzzled as to what it was that exploded were L. S. Harbo, super- intendent of schools; John Tobar, Austin fire chief, and Emil Scheid, plumbing contractor. All pointed out that there was no natural gas outlet in the new building. They also noted that no sewer line was near the place where the explosion occurred, ruling out the possibility that sewer gas may have explodec Painting was about all that re mained before work was complei ed. The addition was to hav< opened next week. J. Edgar Hoover Supports Better Pay for Police WASHINGTON J. Edgar Questioning at several sources ncovered hints that the .secrecy round the fleet orders in all prob- bility will be duplicated in other uture moves as far as possible. It is said congressional leaders fill be consulted on major actions nd that Eisenhower won't strike ut on a course while keeping Con- gress in the dark about what is oing on. He will do this even at le risk of which would unmask the moves. Hoover spoke up today for better pay for policemen, saying "cut- rate law enforcement will not work." The FBI director, in an article in the bureau's monthly law en- forcement said: "One factor which undoubtedly :ontributes to the prosperity of the criminal element is a police pay scale too low to maintain law enforcement forces at full strength. "Unwillingness to provide proper remuneration for the intelligence and effort required in the perfor- mance of modern police duties is a form of cut-rate law enforcement and it will not work. "The logical result is a bigger crime bill in the form of murders, robberies and all the other mani- fold in which crime can be expensive. Meat Products, Many Consumer Controls Ended Employers Free To Make Own Wage Agreements WASHINGTON (.fl _ President Eisenhower today ended all wage and salary controls. He also or- dered price controls lifted from a wide range of consumer goods, in- cluding all meat products. A White House statement said the President took the actions ia a move "toward eliminating in an orderly fashion the price and wage controls under which the Ameri- can economy has been required to operate for 'the past two years." Employers Free The ending of wage and salary controls means employers and their workers are free to make any agreements they wish about pay- matters. Government regulations have, in ;ome instances, restrained employ- ers from granting wage vhen they were agreeable to hem. The controls were part of toe government's efforts to battle inflationary rise in prices and wag- s which set in sharply after the Korean War broke out in 1950. Eisenhower's order as to nd salary controls directs an im- mediate suspension "of all wage nd salary regulations and ssued by or administered by the Vage Stabilization Board (or tabilizatios Salary Itabilization. Board (or the Office f Salary Stabilization) or the Rail- oad and Airlines Wage Board." The White House statement said: "Adjustments in including retroactive adjustments, proposed in petitions filed by em- ployers or by employers and jointly and still pending before any of these agencies may now be placed in effect." Lift Price Curbs The announcement as to price controls said the Office of Price Stabilization (OPS) was issuing or- ders removing price curbs immed- iately from "a wide and varied list of consumer goods, including all meat products, all furniture, all apparel, all meals sold in restau- rants and public eating places It said the price order affects "nearly all of the thousands of items normally sold in department stores, and many more." The statement said, as Eisen- hower did in his State of the Union message Monday, that price con- trols "have not been effective in protecting t h e family budget against high prices." The OPS decontrol order was described as the first of a series "under which all prices will be decontrolled." The wage-price control law ex- pires April 30, and Eisenhower an- nounced Monday that he would not ask for its renewal. Tie President's executive order was made public immediately after le had met for two hours with lis cabinet, presumably to review the impending actions. About employes of the Wage and Salary Stabilization Boards al- ready have been given 30-day dis- missal notices as a step toward winding up those agencies Thursday OPS took price ceil- ings off all automobiles made be- fore 1946. About of these are still on the roads. Cases Lifting of wage controls had been urged by big labor which argued that wages had been controlled more successfully than prices. The lifting of the controls means probably as many as a million workers will get quick pay boosts This is money most of them prob. ably would have received anyway. But the negotiated increases have seen suspended pending wage ward consideration. Some may iave been partly disapproved. The figure of a million workers Continued on Page 3, Column 4.) IKE All Controls On Tin Lifted WASHINGTON H) _ The govern- ment today revoked all controls ver the use, sale, shipment and .ccumulation of tin. The National Production Autbor- y, announcing the move, said it 'as made possible by improve- ments in tin supplies which will ermit the meeting of full mili- ary and civilian needs. ;
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Rob Bradford and Alex Speier open the show discussing the Red Sox epic loss last night on the controversial play in St. Louis of Game 3 of the World Series.
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This is a WEEI special broadcast part of our 24/7 coverage of the Red Sox road to redemption. Same reason vision. -- victory in a long long run on the track. Like. Presented by Suffolk university in front -- guard play Atlantic where we're going. DMV financial and Brandon smoke shop. I drive went better than I would have won a lot dawn. On Sports Radio WEEI. You better believe is a special event. You better believe it. Hi Bob -- stadium Bob rob Bradford WEEI dot com and Alex being here also this very organization. Big long run -- like I'd be big. Where that might. Good job but I guess I could not criticize your all. Did you just ran up your parking the car in the lovely Busch Stadium parking lot -- there is today Alex here in Saint Louis -- evidently you -- captain -- and I and I've just excited about postseason baseball we get under it. Talk about that we give me the phone number right -- gave. Right out of the gate Adams 617779. 79837. I don't keep you updated with the Patriots it is kicked a field goal down fourteen to three. By and tell you why have a that idea how about that what you know. By and tell you what Alex what a date to be on talk radio on sport for a UW the talking about what happened in the Red Sox game last night talking about what's going to happen tonight. Is it is just a perfect storm. Of events where we can talk about it and I invite you. The caller 6177797. 9370 join us if you like but -- really get right into it. Yeah we have two hours of hard -- Red Sox talked with the temperature here the bushy 55 degrees. The tide here is one away it's 20 wait I understand back in Boston a world of difference this is like in all we're missing is that Debbie I helicopter idea to ask you all the information. Alex you -- unbelievable column today on derby -- dot com well done. Thanks all right thanks in now and ask you. What is it. -- -- the play to eat plenty of calls I understand what he calls. Diagnosing a play lasting deep play there is a lot of play capital but it was only -- -- he won the play what was the biggest take away for you. After going through the clubhouse after listening to everybody after really digested the rule. The event seeing the video what was your biggest take away from. The disparity between the perception of injustice in the accurate sportsman of the law. That's a good one. Oh -- -- -- -- so if you can elaborate I know you're talking about I mean it's such cutting feeling for teams -- lose that way way they've never seen a lot's happened before. You can you can comprehend a walk off loss that seems fair pitcher makes a bad pitch. Which goes very far you lose you block with head in shame rightly yes that's how lock up losses by a sore. They block a plus is not supposed to work where you think you've just completed the single. Biggest defensive swing -- -- Eddie Jones Donnie Jones said be the best double play in World Series history I mean I think that's a little bit of it now. I -- I come -- -- out there -- do our jobs because there were two missed plays on the -- to pour -- elements of the play in two unbelievable elements of the play. The Red Sox had just committed had just had just concluded they thought. The single most impact full defensive play -- World Series history all night that I throw out out two runners at the plate. Both of whom would have won the game on a walk off on the same play. So this is. Is what they thought they just accomplished and instead all of a sudden. You see it had dug out of Cardinals streaming towards Allen -- who the hell knows if he's ever touched on it still by the by the way the -- of Cardinals streaming toward home plate even before I think a lot the Red Sox players knew exactly what was going on you had in the same -- I just jumped -- -- so bad in the same breath she didn't spit it if you had you had Red Sox players celebrating. Why the Cardinals players are so. And that you had Red Sox players who looked like they had just had their lunch money stolen which you know old lady had yet so you had you know the Cardinals streaming towards -- you have will middle Brooks and John Farrell and Dustin Pedroia. All charging towards home plate would you hot -- who kind of slumped to his knees when he saw Saltalamacchia is -- taking up down the left field might -- -- standing on the periphery. Just looking like he had no idea what just happened. Seeking an explanation they were getting an explanation explanation for the Red Sox because of their vantage point this is kind of the Russian minor effect. Where your perspective is going to necessarily color. Your view of the moral universe. The Red Sox are standing there and -- you know they they wonder how on earth can this be obstruction. What could bald -- Brooks and -- He dove in order to keep the ball from going down the left field by -- put their narrative even after which was their narrative right read what I could will have done he was off the baseline he didn't know he dove to his. Here's -- era is not in Europe but here here are some of the things that we heard from the clubhouse were going through the Red Sox explanation. Guys who had seen the video guys who hadn't seen the video guys just wanted to find a way out of this from the Red Sox perspective him. Number one was he was on the base path. Rhetoric if you watch it he was clearly in line almost in line with -- the inside the grass right all of the outside the grass was now we know that that. It does not -- Correct the base runner establishes his own baseline and so what happened on that play is that Craig. Has slid into has slipped to third base but -- spot he's tracking the ball so it turns his head to the left as he. As he sees the ball get by middle Brooks either going down the left field line it's what he stands up from the base he takes off. From that spot toward the plate you slid to the inside of the bag never -- across the bag so he was inside the baseline he gets up and he starts running. On a straight line towards home which is in fact which which is in fact kind of triangle. Rather than rather than being on the charts it's legally. Inside the -- and all that leads me to another part of what was going throughout the Red Sox clubhouse because again these guys are trying to find things. That makes makes some sense in regards to. They're saying this cannot happen right now -- still want to play to be they still obstruction call to be over will -- about it and got back on the field another thing Google it was a little more outside the box as you said when he got up he actually takes one quick step towards acted with more of a balance thing right but it took one quick step source of support second so they're saying. If you make -- move towards second you have to read parts third base -- didn't do I think that you know that may be crossed about splitting -- I think it is because I'm not sure that -- I guess that the interpretation would be that he never really made a move toward second base he just kind of stood up yet that one I suppose could be a matter of subject to interpretation certainly now now another one is that when you look at middle Brooks is. To me. And I can't prove this -- middle Brooks is -- admitting to it but to me it's his. Instant reaction was to lift is like I think the umpire saw that or some umpires on that not even necessarily at third base umpire but. -- -- saw that it immediately that looks like obstruction now. If you look at when Craig goes all bring him right leg is actually down on the ground but people will say this people will say while he was you saw the leg up. So he was already trying to avoid the leg. And that's where he kind of stumbled over middle sweep the regional sweep the leg right exactly 617779. 79837. We're gonna talk about this play a lot over the next two hours we're also gonna get into -- -- -- we have to everyone wants to move toward everyone wants to talk about the here and now we understand that. And it is also fascinating what Clay Buchholz might present today and also how hope Clay Buchholz is existence affected John -- moves last night and there's a lot of moves to breakdown productive to him talk about the way we'll talk about a lot of federal decisions accompanied move the -- -- -- -- out of the -- amendment there's there's a lot of these Hamlet victory absolutely. So 6177797937. Fourteen to three Miami still up -- the -- were talking Red Sox live from Busch Stadium. Alex beer I'm rob Bradford just go right to the phone lines we have read in Spencer -- right Saturday. -- -- Terry I'm. I'm Boca while I yeah I'm here barely hear -- okay you -- out. I -- yes I could hear you well enough. Well lots. I will -- Astros get given another world. That's one down -- one down so if -- get another world let's go to John John and miniature. Two on ideal. What got done. Well I got cute and I just left and potential wedge in hockey palace and ceremony and I thought that was the Raiders on them shut -- jab -- relate. I didn't think it was right there that was. -- -- called him about football -- so inconsistent. And specifically at the strike on how are you outside. I think the seventh with a runner on second. And that I just thought that ball districts are incredibly consistent. At bat out of a couple Red Sox in. And I'm surprised no start. Well John as it is deployed thanks for call and you know it. Balls and strikes you look on Twitter last night the topic of conversation. Right there's no question about it -- the group with the of the whole plate umpire he's been a lot of stuff yet Aaron. But as we get to the end of the game late jaundice that I I'm surprised no one's talking about it. It's kind of dwarfed by everything else that was going on Tuesday because it was so much going on the game. And with the balls in the strikes if it was a game remember on -- Joseph read the Joseph west game. The first game at Detroit -- Detroit friendly park right that was one of the biggest topics of conversation even though he was at a pretty good day right. In retrospect she was pretty much spot on but this was a very different one when you saw. When you sub the the screen shots that people are taking up a pitcher facts. And what was being what was being called strikes and balls. There would be you know like Felix who -- for instance had sequences which who's doubling up on pitches they were pretty well within the strike zone like these weren't just. You know this is hopeful insurers Owens type of the zone that die as as it -- read out on. It's about what -- you know what it was it was you he was having an off capable sides of the plate Darryl both teams. Congratulation right exactly so what we're looking Dallas area and today yes acts that's where -- screaming from the press box -- -- the deleterious mistakes you're making dated him. -- after the game in the game answers so much to talk about it and balls and strikes get pushed to the back burner because as you said. It's understood he was back for bowl sides. But. Other than the play -- he apple right. What does a secondary thing that you think was the most support the most noteworthy. In terms of a talking point I guess the most controversial. In terms of the -- certainly most controversial that's that's kind of a lay up to me that's where John Ferrell. Did not pull the trigger on either just straight up pinch hitting for for Brandon Workman. I'm at a time when he was probably going to bring would you how to into the game and the subsequent inning right where they'll work and I -- -- agreement -- get one out. Getting one out giving up a bloop hit it was on a good pitch -- -- You could have been to a very easily. Led anyway yep John Carroll's decision to let Brandon Workman hit for himself. Which in turn -- are reflected both decision not to use Mike Napoli in that spot in the guys in the top of the ninth straight up pinch hitter. Or an inability to double switch with Jarrod Saltalamacchia who finished. Who had finished I believe the the seventh there at the top of the eighth inning. -- for Britain and work the next game so Saltalamacchia punched out to conclude the -- that actually might have been a good spot pitcher with Napoli yet he -- double -- and did not tell us this is this is the -- after the fact he said -- catch it it was a mistake. Before we go the break it and I see you all lined up will get to you. Lot of the talk about keep the conversation going 617779. 79837. As the road to redemption we're live at Busch Stadium in Saint Louis Alex the year rob Bradford. Or go to the break let's go Mike in Baltimore by how you doing today but good -- To -- and gentlemen here's what bothers me. It's the attitude didn't take it toward the empires on these controversial call him to give me an example. -- Q I see. The play. With the Dodgers from the Cardinals in game one of your series -- Yadier Molina got credit for put out. On the -- like the ninth or tenth inning. -- in the first the next year he writes that occurred. With the collision at the plate. He didn't tackle. He got credit for the owls need to normal -- I'm talking about. And national really irks me everybody in the media national media fox they also the same thing what you can't blame the umpire for about one. You know there are we gonna give the catcher of the hole on that one. So I'm truly confused that the fans when the empire make mistakes we say well that's baseball. When they when they make that call -- people wanna say you can't make it at that time of the game. After watching sports for forty years. Why is that considered one of the ten commandments that you can't make. A big call -- the -- why or why we always been programmed that way. Well I I think there were moving on from that more and more broadly overtime and the fact of the matter is that. We we are reaching the point where we no longer. Except human error is one of the beauties of the game I always thought that was terrible lied document and roll the what does of the game -- that's why we're getting replay. It's going to be implemented more broadly. What are the things. And I think that. Did hold water for me after the game was well you can't make that play that. I mean you can't make that call that you can't have a World Series game determined by that call. And either it's the right call or it's wrong call we understand letter of the law that's what it was it was a letter of the law. But can also understand the Red Sox frustration when will middle Brooks is being told well. You were at fault there because you do you get out you away you -- make yourself invisible that's what they're telling him you'd make yourself invisible which will know Brooks said. How much what to do that I just -- They understood that right now and in fact Joseph Torre said this both in the post game press conference -- again on MLB network after the fact. He said it's the law it's not fair. It's the law. Listen there's a lot to get to 6177797937. Clay Buchholz on the mound today the Red Sox. We're to talk about doubt we'll talk about what we expect from them what. Really resides for the Red Sox going forward. Maybe after Clay Buchholz if things don't work out for him we're also gonna talk about. Everything focusing on the eighth and the -- the seventh inning was also very very interesting to me -- be talked about that right after this. Had about a level. I was pretty excited. The this. As the originals and so. You know a -- -- a dive for the ball there there's really nowhere to go to -- -- get he's on top of me so. We know we're gonna go there. So. I don't know it's tough. That is will -- Brooks. Boston Red Sox. Center of the storm -- the hurricane. Is I don't know what salty. We're gonna get to that second I'm rob Bradford WEEI dot com that's Alex spear of the same organization where at Busch Stadium I atop which stadium in the broadcast Booth. With the great Joseph Castiglione the great gave little -- a great -- -- will -- be broadcasting later. But this is the road to redemption. This is a special addition of the Brad -- show all the way up to until 4 o'clock. Your phone calls are welcome 61777927937. They're all lined up -- here people are fired up. People want -- -- people want to predict what's gonna happen that I. And by the way Patriots lose in 73 at the half but more importantly Alex -- you might today. On the seventh -- I'd probably -- step before the break you did and what does this kind of set the scene for the red for the next two innings that the rest of the game on what Jon -- was gonna do. And may be where he was a little bit inconsistent -- so. You go and you pinch hit. You can sell out with pinch hitters there you pinch hit for. -- Yes true so you pinch -- for -- with Mike -- Now now now -- that -- I'm sorry I'm not I'm I'm that's -- struggling with the with that with the reenactment of the game he had no -- that's okay well it was it was the giving that you sold off for pinch hitters right and you're getting no production you went three up three down. And the last month old dog Jonny Gomes was in there buried them yet Jonny Gomes and so okay. You sold off for pinch hitters Buick taken Felix to brought out of the game because of it. And a lot of people had a problem that without because. Take -- to brought was pitching pretty well -- you got no production from the pinch hitters that I don't have a problem with that because Johnny Gomes is a guy -- can -- home I'm sorry it was -- -- -- to pinch -- for injury. No -- through living go through there Purdue brought correct right. So you have a couple guys who could hit a home run up I don't have a problem that the value jump four to let it -- and it. Double switch decide not double switching aside you that Workman hit a Sabres could get through this inning. But you also have a guy on the bench same thing can hit a home run rate and if you've already done it. Then why are you doing it there I I understand. That you looking down on the lie right defense replacement. But this and we I think we both agreed this is where Ferrell has gotten in trouble in the past throughout the course of the season which he's managed a great great season we understand that. But typically when he's gotten in trouble -- looking too far down right line yes absolutely and it was interesting because. That LeBron situation to -- throwing very well he had perhaps feeling on his side of it probably could've continued for awhile more I'm not sure with the with the match ups were. In the in the in the bottom of the seventh it would him -- -- you agree it's -- Brigham Breslow right right right so you're going left yet so -- -- Fresno run to brought presumably would have matched up justice favorably. In that situation as as depressed yet and it -- also so you're limiting what you brought how he pitches to throw for 545 so it's 125 pitches. And enters the conversation about how John Ferrell was benching last night. In relation to what could -- inspired today we're gonna get to that second but let's go back to the calls again you can join. The conversation at 61777979837. I'm rob Bradford alongside with Alex -- -- go Louis Louis. -- I do us. Pretty good at on a comment on your game last night absolutely. I think -- looks it will actually ability. He cheated got -- Our Eli didn't press conference when he said that the Marlins on top look at it out at the video. Yeah it would take place -- not only that it is a lot cheaper at the plate twice. It is physically impossible -- Approach to give up off the ground here lately and what he should've done was to remain on the ground lack. And I think it would have been okay. Are you got to remember that cute to watch this. We'll -- they should be cheated it should not be likely. They. Apologized to about. Well those -- flick saw I am I'm sure that's exactly what are thinking about the kids of America -- -- say a few things because -- -- -- just -- probably about 35 times between the hours of -- between the hours of god knows when this game ended when it -- my article in the wee hours but -- undoubtedly did in fact kind of all over at least he kind of had to balance himself while he stumbled over -- Brooks. Pushing his hands onto his back. Middle Brooks that -- Is trying to make a movement whether to get up or to get out of the way in in doing that it's his legs that go up I don't think it will -- Brooks had any intent I. I personally don't think that middle Brooks was trying to trip him. But even if he was tried to trip him whether he was -- was not trying to chip from back is he did trip them. So at that point the umpires and over and over and over ten doesn't matter. So regardless of what his whether or not he was trying to engage in shenanigans of chicanery. Doesn't matter it was still -- it was still obstruction by the letter of the law this goes both ends even though I hadn't been able to move out of the even if he would remain stationary and flat. The fact that the fact that at that point his defense of play is over in that Craig ran into him it's still by the letter of the law right obstruction. Letter of the law which isn't easy for Wilma Brooks to take and as you said no matter what he his intentions were in that split second. It's hard to argue that he would be able to get. Lift his body get out of the way the runner. And that's what he's thinking when he's making those comments after the game the umpire. Hired told me this and how my -- to do that right how can the lobby this way and I was just lying there flat on my belly -- able to move when Allen Craig's stumbles over me. In pushes his hands into my back accidentally. How can that be outplayed that you know for that is adjudicated to be against the rules and these things are right now absolutely and if you read the the entirety of all the stories today. All the reaction I think the majority of people majority of writers majority of people who actually looked through. The the rules look through the the video. I think -- the overriding consensus was that umpires got it right by the letter of the law but it's a tough break for the Red Sox because. Really there was nothing they could Don and -- It's right and you know what of the other one of the other fascinated elements is that the letter of the law. Does does provide some wiggle room that says you know in in giving the example that's basically identical to what happened with middle Brooks. It says. I act in that case where a few -- fielder. -- dives after a ball and remains on the ground such that such that the runner doesn't enjoy an unimpeded path TV. Path to path forward it is very likely. Put a -- very likely. Obstruction does not say it is structured it is very likely start that is Alex -- formalize a cranked up -- you can join the conversation 61777979837. It is. 138 in Saint Louis 238 and Boston temperature and Saint Louis is 55 I have no idea what the temperature in Boston is but. Maybe Norman Brookline -- talents -- -- you don't. I think it's about six Buick in 20 wow bonus for you anecdote that hey if it. If not getting down what is it blog tell you what Utley watched norm the sun is out here it's a beautiful beautiful day but go ahead would've gotten on well. I just lay prone on the ground at the whatever we do look back at -- at -- quickly. And I didn't have to pick might speed up a little bit to get to my -- yet to my arms straight and straighten out. And you need to take into consideration that little -- knowing the ball got by him. That the runner might get cut or rundown who's gonna play that third base side and -- and a so he's not done. He's potentially still in the play. But the thing that really bugged me was I was in another room so I want you to -- I was listening to the interview with the umpires. And carrying -- and the umpires made it clear that -- and it doesn't matter is the if the obstruction is inadvertent the runner has the right yet to go play there also noticing that that runner is pretty but. Inside the foul line if -- didn't yes. You know didn't get pushed up the island might have been able to go who have been with the outside but. Why did the -- why did I hear them talking to Jim Joyce -- Always prefers to -- Well Allen -- was trying to get around. And moved Brooks was in his way so one guy -- -- by its first name and the other guy is referred to always I did flattening. Norm -- loaded that looked adorable -- let me just tell you have taken this to another level I admire for this -- did you simulate this play in your living room. But amazing you have also. You have also broken down how -- the umpires are because of the way the reference guy's name. That is a true Red Sox in right there I command. Yeah I would I would say that in terms of the suggestion of of conspiracy. With regards to -- first name references. Craig is a first baseman is probably on a much more conversational basis where you go at it also it lets be yards it's also first thing. Obi -- you have to first names in the right guy's name right at the kicker -- yeah. So maybe he's mixing it up in these name was Craig yeah I mean look like by by the standards set by Bobby Valentine of all that if pumping a little bit over the willow grove where half the season with -- I will result again. Well there was Matt Alberts out there are for actions and yeah. And did he also dropping Iglesias or was he off at Goran saw us. Yeah but it granted printed that was a Mendoza and those were good times books are deployed boy Alex -- circuit tied with six -- a separate. 7797937. As the all lined up well -- -- -- on. Hunter Bob Alex you all fired up. Patriots still looking by the way. But more importantly Alex spear myself rob Bradford we here at Busch Stadium we are here to answer your questions to to be here for you all your venting all your predictions. Everything that you wanna know about last night and everything you wanna know about what's gonna happen. Tonight -- going to be -- I don't know if you -- this but they have not been eliminated yet it's only two on yes it's hard to believe it's also hard to believe that they ever let the series what nothing after destroying the Cardinals in game one they have about Louis Cardinals have roughly chants of bring it at. I guess I'm rob Bradford that Celek -- we get to all your calls are gonna talk more about and -- John Farrell did last night how he managed not only in the controversial move that he made a double switch. By how he managed when looking toward what he has at his disposal tonight. We do got after the -- got here I got. It today. Is that you think the -- with the glory of ours. He had in case you missed it Alex and are walking outside Busch Stadium. Adding to the park heading toward our job which stadium bush a -- What is -- that I was like yeah it's an homage to -- -- absolutely. I've you do that you do it but we're watching outside the card and there was a statute. And they have all these statues outside and in new -- -- witness to this ice this statue. And I screamed than anything. I scream and -- to you but as a setback. It is it is uncanny based by the arm angle it like where it's only the ball. Like everything about the delivery does screen and played for the Cardinals and yes exactly this is the Julian Tavarez world. Yeah I had it -- obviously it was -- the men in up I took a picture or put on -- on Twitter name speaking of Twitter. You can reach me on Twitter at Brad Fo live teacher for sale not really someday. That's at Brad throw an Alex -- at Alex Spears SP yeah. -- -- Almost it's like old MacDonald yet he -- out dispel it won't be as Alex beer and I just read out this Alex the slight you'd. It read out a link to a -- we have up now on WE -- EI dot com. Which shows up hole what -- changes to the Red Sox make forward team for the World Series. And there are some good questions and we're gonna get into this in the second I also all the cause they see all lined up to told what for second. Jarrod Saltalamacchia. Vs David Ross. That's one Dave Ortiz vs Mike Napoli Stephen Drew verses theater Bogart's. Which Red Sox starter at third base in a -- will middle Brooks or Mike Napoli which -- that was the joke. Who would least like to see in left field -- average Jonny Gomes. And who would you like to see start game four of the World Series clay buckles Ryan Dempster cute to brought Jon Lester all great questions I think this is. Heading into today and we're gonna get the -- up in. About hour and a half we don't know we batter -- they get it well and make sure you have -- we don't know but until that we can talk about it we will talk about it but let's get to the coffers of the people are hanging on. We've -- it was so hunter in New York ideally dale hunter. Here. Hello yes. Punter. Yes. Did you wonder why we thirty. And I depressed and -- on tires. A -- together on game one got together they need to correct call could be promoted -- Al. They have each -- structure and call on -- to get just a game over you look at that I didn't get it to really talk -- And can go to and where we're at Indy comes with one get together and went out next time now and -- want to actually -- bottom line. What if the call within our league are they will be good how we can't -- you don't get out in. You are and why he what we are. Including why I couldn't hurt like you are what you've been durable. Odds are sorry I grew weaker your break it up but we'll get to the -- question and I'll I'll try to address it. So you go back to win that play happening game one where they -- conferred they talked about that after the game how they look at each other and clearly you had a group of umpires. All -- recognizing that that was the wrong call they look at each other at -- that. See that there is a major disagreement there that's when they get together they have signals they have non verbal signals that they use in order to indicate we Houston we have a problem yes yes and and would that play last night. If you looked at it from the umpires point of view from anywhere on that field. You probably saw the same thing -- -- Jimmy Joyce saw. Right and in -- in the post game press conference. I jumped on her back who is that it was the crew Chiefs said. I've been basically they got into the locker room they were like that is a great they were they were because they thought that it was a great call by choice. Joyce saw her -- who -- in left field said that he saw the same thing. The right field umpire I think Doug -- means that he saw the same thing from that vantage point. -- so basically gave you had. Unanimity amongst the umpires and this was the right and if you hear the tone of their -- it's almost. In May be a look at too much into this but it's almost like they understood they got the -- right call. But there was no Lee getting the right call because they understand the call that the rule itself with flawed in that case. Yeah yep -- sort of -- college shot in Boston just keep the conversation going are you doing I I I'm sorry Fred -- announced today and he's our name. Yeah we started there you senator. You know Russia. Thanks and good I was 200 on the circuit obstructing -- are silica was the right call. It was there was no good call -- -- a side note from our side you know it looks from the Saint Louis decide to -- Korea right call you -- What have you ought to move on book how to -- watching -- on you know pop vocal coaching and arm. He might he might armpit admits that he Michael probably like or five innings and in my putting to brought. Because you are -- brought him in like midway. And they come in the game people yesterday so not that I think Arnold brought bought the remark happened so. Dodgers -- -- and we haven't talked a ton about that and thanks for the call. But this is one of the things that we have to -- we had to keep in mind as that game was unfolding in John Farrell had to keep in mind at that game is unfolding. What are you gonna do to back up Clay Buchholz today too we also and it was going to be Felix abroad but then various ball. Got in the game you said what threw 25 pitches this is going to be one of the biggest things pregame that we can find out which is. If Felix too broad. Available for today's game. -- and if not is India's long reliever because Brandon Workman is another guy who would typically be able to get multiple innings but he threw thirty plus pitches yesterday. And then we're also doing with in and then not obviously to Bryant threw 25 pitches. What else Alia duck or Aramis -- not really -- for Denver receiver not the way if you're looking at clay -- gets in the first inning and just can't do it. Dempster would seem to be the guy have salute by. But it's going to be interesting go back to its going to be fast inning to find out. If any of these guys are unavailable because there wasn't anybody who threw a ton of pitches you would think that somebody could give you something especially now that. Well yeah I mean Derrick this is this is getting to the -- of the 2004 ALCS time -- where it's time for people to throw a hundred pitches in three days. That's kind of where there -- Sox are that you aren't exactly saving these guys for down the road so let me go over the pitch counts of yesterday. TV 64 pitches obviously you wouldn't be consideration. -- -- 25 pitches Breslow five pitches so he's probably available for a multi you know for certainly more than three outs. Whether or not he could give you two full innings is not a question to solid got worked a little bit so that's that's a tough 124 pitches from him. Work in thirty pitches that's also a little bit Dicey Koji to a -- three pitches so he's obviously available for. I mean I I think they were probably try to lean on him for more gallery out all of them jumping on the first pitch of them coach Yani you just don't see -- team haters try to do that before. That's a strategy going -- -- avenues if you look at go back to the Tampa series where they all try to do is Oprah's. Basically obviously got three pitches because I know they're going to be around the strike zone but as you point out they don't usually get him before we go to the break this go to Alex in Florida Alex. I -- I'm. Alex. And not good guys and I think anybody doing good -- they put all the good thing for you -- his team tonight. At redemption to come to America war they can be bigger -- the World Series but here's my they're -- McCutcheon on this earlier but this agreement. What is it and it goes into -- out of the -- I don't know what Daryl I think is dropped the ball in the big -- we know play yesterday yesterday you know clay is much more so we need long relief today collect. And why let peavy throw more innings it. You gotta do open one of these days you gotta let it start to get up we all want is capable -- united. Tomorrow. So old that we belong meant what would it probably tormented like you can use the clock could remember that brought -- woke up public aren't the warmup. -- it now do you let doctor tomorrow released today and you don't even know -- what is for the people call doesn't know what he's gonna give you. And it seemed like that the bullpen than that and it's been completely mismanaged. And one thing not let it in that I hate to go back and he'll get the victory -- -- Grand Slam. But they are loaded one out and I know we let -- -- it would it would Portland particularly in there and we -- compliment bench. And bases loaded and I know that the result of better fielder and he's got beat at the double play in the flat but. He was and always at the time that we're a -- out said that you know things change -- -- -- -- and this and that but so. If -- change -- -- to the carpet and all regional at the Grand Slam and hindsight but I think at that time that. -- with a better goalie. I think that that element is completely. Caught the ball I don't know what's gonna happen with the bullpen tonight and then what about tomorrow. Well I saw all good points and I would just say this about you the peavy situation. And how he's approaching the bullpen as you said before Alex. This is -- no holds -- situation you can't look you can't be looking at resting guys too much you have to be in the here than now more than you have ever been. And regarding peavy. It was a tough point. Because he had it figured he had figured things out he was pitching pretty well you want him to go deep into games although it just -- the highest stress inning of the game may be yet sort of but it was certainly I think you're in an American League game he keeps on going may but then you get to the pitcher's spot. You need to get a run there you feel you aren't getting any production from your offense you have an opportunity that's where you make the move. Not the perfect scenario all of the decisions that John Ferrell made yesterday that was why I don't have enormous problem with because at that time I didn't. Enormous problem. Yes so in in the interest of fairness and a comprehensive perspective it's worth pointing this out John Carroll had one shining moments -- like really terrific moment in this game where he. Update on lava in the game. Two bad against Randy Choate in basically have this like chicken match stare off. With Mike Metheny and it was -- who -- much to the benefit of the Red Sox when novel whacked the single BR BI single game tying. That's a left field that was that was a big goes and I talk to prepare. That move with with regards to PP. I actually thought he did a really good job of five of managing the peavy situation. He got some went up early when it looked like things might be slipping away fast from peavy but he pulled back at the or he pulled back in order to let them. Give -- a chance to work out of it which you know that date speaking of over taxing the bullpen could have turned out -- more disastrously if he had done. To Japan after in the first inning of the second yeah did it that's that was the danger there right yeah and to meet once -- -- has that incredibly stressful inning of getting a bases loaded. No outs getting out of it great job by him unbelievable quite honestly then you're thinking that he's probably going to be a little bit on fumes after that and you need to start scoring. Yet but yeah you need good starts where that was a priority that leads us to blighted decisions. That's what we're gonna talk about coming out of the break I see you all lined up Jose Brian Beverly Bob Gary all you're gonna get your calls. We're also gonna give you the poll results as we said on WEEI dot com right now we have all the questions for you who should. Play today we have a ball up right now would give you -- result from that all along with -- take. 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Sexy Tennis Star Anna Kournikova Secret Marriage to Enrique Iglesias?
By Tina Johnson
Jun 29, 2008
Was sexy tennis star Anna Kournikova ever really married to Enrique Iglesias? Was Anna Kournikova really ever a tennis star? While sports fans debate that second question the man that should know Enrique Iglesias, is certain that he was once married to the blonde tennis player. At least that is the report of his story.
A report from RTE Entertainment notes that singer Enrique Iglesias has said that he was secretly married to tennis star Anna Kournikova. According to the Daily Star, the 33-year-old singer said: "Oh I'm not married, no. I mean I was married. I was married, seriously."
"I was married a year ago to Anna and I don't know what happened. We're not married anymore but we are kind of still in contact." That seems clear as mud. It appears the score is Marriage 1 and Divorce 1 if he is telling the truth. Many appear skeptical.
Shannon Owens of the Orlando Sentinel isn't buying it and writes, "Iglesias has consistently jived the media for most of the couple's five-year relationship so there's not an ounce of credibility to his words. He pulled the same stunt last March and People Magazine reported the foil. My guess is this is another publicity stunt since no one really cares about either of their careers right now." Ouch!
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"Russian Folk Art: Rag-baby Festival," is an exhibit that allows the viewer to experience traditional, hand-made Russian folk crafts. This project, brought to this country for the first time, is a result of the collaboration of the Russian ethnographic organization, Paraskeva, and the Russian Ethnographic Museum. Included in the show are dolls from the museum collection, costume dolls and photographs capturing life in 19th century Russian villages. Abrochure will be available explaining the production of the traditional dolls.
Fundraising Art Auction: June 22, 1-4 p.m. Drop-off date of work: June 1, 1-3 p.m., sTudio 7. No jurying. Open to membership, all mediums. Prints must be identified by type. Limit of two submissions, ready for hanging. Auction wall will be exhibited in sTudio 7, June 7-June22, and is a separate event from "Good and Plenty." For important further details, contact RAA.
Artist and teacher Esther Grillo calls her an RAA success story. Marina Callaghan, kidsmART Program Director, says she is "one of the gems of the organization." Christina Coradin began drawing when she was five years old. At age 19 she has just completed her first year at the Fashion Institute of Technology, studying General Illustration. In the intervening years Christina was trained by, took classes from and has worked in a number of RAA projects and programs, which she continues to do. Those experiences and art classes in high school have helped her to the realization that she wants to make art her career. "That's where I should be and what I want to do." Specifically, she wants to be in book illustration and advertising.
In addition to drawing when she was a young girl, Coradin made her own books with her mother, herself an artist who studied costume design for the theater. Coradin is a fan of comics and cartoons. Like many artists, including the great ones, she has learned by copying the masters of the genre that most excites her. But the young artist uses this as a jumping off point for her own original works. She enjoys drawing from life; from models. But she appreciates the freedom of illustration, in which she can interpret and create from her own imagination - a freer form, she finds, than graphic design. When asked what excites her about drawing, she responds, "The imagination takes you out of this world." She loves when people are able to "see all sorts of things in my drawings."
RAA not only gave Coradin the training to develop her skills, it provided her with jobs. She first discovered RAA when she started working with Esther Grillo, repainting and restoring Grillo's murals on the "Wave" bus shelters along Shore Front Parkway. So impressed with the young artist was Grillo that she recommended Coradin to RAA's Education Department. Grillo calls her, "reliable,...[ open to] instruction,…a selfstarter,… an asset." Coradin has been a junior counselor in RAA's kidsmART after school program and in camp kidsmART. Grillo is such a fan of her protegé's talent that the mentor owns some of the student's artwork.
Clearly, Coradin is not only an asset to RAA. She is an asset to her community and to the younger artists to whom she passes on her skills, her love of creativity and her standards of ethics.
Please mark your calendars for the second annual Rockaway Literary Arts and Film Festival, June 7 and 8 in Fort Tilden. Writing panels and workshops, film screenings and live entertainment on the outdoor Moon Stage will consume two evenings and a full day in the park. See the cultural riches this peninsula holds. Food and refreshments will be available, admission and parking are free.
Read more about the festival in Stu Mirsky's column, "The Rockaway Irregular" and in press releases in this paper.
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Fort Tilden HighlightsNEXT EXHIBITIONS: "Good and Plenty," the best work by RAA artists, revisited. Saturday, June 7-Sunday, June 22. Location: sTudio 6 Gallery, RoCA @ Fort Tilden, GNRA. "Russian Folk Art." June 7-June 22. sTudio 7 Gallery, RoCA. For details see column. For both exhibits: Gallery hours: Saturdays 12-4 p.m., Sundays 1-4 p.m. and by appointment. Free admission. Opening reception: Sunday, June 15, 1-3 p.m. FUNDRAISING ART AUCTION: June 22, 1-4 p.m., sTudio 7 Gallery Deadline for submission of work: June 1. No jurying. Open to membership. See column for more details. (FREE) THURSDAY OPEN MIC MUSIC NIGHTS: Every Thursday, 8 p.m.-12 a.m. in sTudio 7 Gallery, RoCA. Jamming with great local and non-local musicians and singers; open mic LIFE DRAWING CLASS with live model. Every Thursday, 8-10 p.m.in sTudio 6 Gallery, RoCA @ Fort Tilden. Fee: $20 per class. No pre-registration necessary. Instructor: Geoff Rawling. PAINTING CLASSES FOR ADULTS: Tuesday nights, 7-9 p.m.; Thursday mornings, 10 a.m. - 12 noon. sTudio 7, RoCA @ Fort Tilden. $15 per class, supplies included. Instructor: Geoff Rawling
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Mom took me by surprise this morning and I didn't have a chance to get behind the TV. I'm going to
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The mean man v-e-t put something over my face and tested me with an ultrasound machine this morning.
I heard him tell mommy that my left kidney is so small it's almost gone. The good news is my right kidney is normal size with no stones, but it is renal deficient. I must now eat a special food (YUK!) and drink lots of water. He also said that my heart was really good and it might be 2 years until I get worst. I'm counting on it being
longer than that! The babies need me and I'm going to hang in there as long as I can so I can take care of them! They have so much more to learn!!!
Well, got to go now....I been away from home too long and Teddy, Blue and Layla have run wild!
Well, tomorrow is the day I'm going to sick bay. At least I'll be sedated so I won't remember what the v-e-t does to me. I hope the babies will be okay while I'm away. They run in a pack and are really fast. Our house is rather large and it's not easy keeping up with the 3 of them. I hope mom has her running shoes on!!!
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"In April, he spoke at an assembly at a public school in Maryland where he compared those who oppose homosexuality to supporters of slavery and racial segregation."
"GLSEN describes itself as 'championing LGBT issues in K-12 education since 1990.' Did you catch that – 'K through 12'? Younger and younger students are the target of this group. The younger, the better because they are easier to manipulate."
"Behind GLSEN's window-dressing rhetoric about safe schools, bigotry, 'homophobia', oppression, and concerns about harassment, lies the reality: advocacy of actual homosexual sex, sometimes very explicit even for young kids. And sometimes it's with adults…. How can they get away with … even soliciting the opinions of minors for sketchy, internally-constructed and analyzed school climate surveys, where no parental permission is needed to interview a sixth-grader about homosexual identity via the Internet?"
"Twenty percent are hard-core [anti-homosexual] bigots. We need to ignore the hard-core bigots, get more of the hard-core fair-minded people to speak up, and we'll pull that 60 percent [of people in the middle] … over to our side."We have to quit being afraid of the religious right. …I'm trying to find a way to say this. I'm trying not to say, 'F*ck 'em!' – which is what I want to say, because I don't care what they think! [audience laughter] Drop dead!"
"This is the real scandal – the degree to which the homosexual movement tolerates pedophiles in its midst and regards a champion of pedophilia as a hero."
"Democrats clearly are terrified of ruffling the feathers of their activist homosexual supporters, who are an influential part of the Democratic Party's base. This scandal, however, is not merely about homosexual behavior; it is about promoting sex between children and adults."
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Is it front discs?
Discs rarely "warp". It could be down to bad hubs or worn suspension components (drop links, ball joints, control arm bushes etc.). The term warping is usually used and it's eithier one of the faults I mentioned, which are temporarily hidden by new discs, or un-even pad material transfer (sitting with foot on brake when hot). Ensure you follow the correct bedding in procedure.
You can attempt to remedy discs with un-even deposts by applying the bedding in procedure at any time which to me is a series of braking firmly from a high speed say 60mph to 10mph - around 10 times, without stopping!
Could the wheels be buckled? Would that effect it?
i thought that there were two (driver error) ways discs get warped,
#1 the above mentioned sitting on the brake pedal with hot discs, - say after beating traffic into a traffic jam, (lol)
#2 hitting puddles or rather getting hot discs wet somehow.
on your travels
you dont drive through a ford/stream crossing or stick it in a carwash with hot brakes do you?
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Hello Katie, I have a quick question. I was wondering how I can get the logos that are on the trial version. Also do I have to purchase more packages to get more logo samples or is there a different way.
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When you have downloaded the DEMO they become "Bonus Logos" when you buy. If you didn't download them you still can. Look in the drop down menu where you select the template set and see if they are there.
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Legal Tensions in the Governance of Inclusion: Principals' Perspectives on Inclusion and the Law
Keeffe, Mary Bernice (2004) Legal Tensions in the Governance of Inclusion: Principals' Perspectives on Inclusion and the Law. PhD thesis, Queensland University of Technology.
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Disability discrimination is an ongoing problem in Australian schools. This study analyses the tension that exists between the requirements of the disability discrimination legislation and the way that principals make decisions about the inclusion of students with disabilities in Queensland state schools. The findings from the study suggest that principals believe the disability discrimination legislation is relevant but it is not helpful in providing a framework for discrimination-free decision-making. Instead, the democratic governance processes of inclusion and collaboration are identified as essential elements of the school principal's decision-making process if inclusive school cultures are to thrive and if discrimination is to be reduced or eliminated.
Habermas's critical theory of lifeworld and systems world provides the conceptual framework to analyse the complex lifeworld of the principal and the systemic requirements of the legislation. A lifeworld model of decision-making interactions within the inclusive school is proposed from the data collected in this study.
Data were collected using a mixed methodology in which 120 principals responded to surveys about their perspectives on inclusion. This was followed by a series of in-depth interviews with six principals who described their schools as inclusive. Focus groups also provided group perspectives and verified the data collected from the surveys and interviews. Together, the quantitative data and the qualitative information complement each other to provide comprehensive perspectives from principals about inclusion and the law.
Recommendations are made in the final chapters that propose a new legal paradigm for disability discrimination legislation so that the discordance between the systems world of the law and the lifeworld of the principal may be reduced. More specific policy and governance recommendations promote collaborative decision-making models to facilitate shared understandings about complex issues that relate to disability.
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Prognostic Factors for Locoregional Recurrences in Colon Cancer.
Elferink, M.A.G. and Visser, O. and Wiggers, T. and Otter, R. and Tollenaar, R.A.E.M. and Langendijk, J.A. and Siesling, S. (2012) Prognostic Factors for Locoregional Recurrences in Colon Cancer. Annals of surgical oncology, 19 (7). 2203 - 2211. ISSN 1068-9265
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recurrences of rectal cancer. Despite comparable locoregional
recurrence rates in colon cancer, only a few studies
on locoregional recurrences among colon cancer patients
have been published. This study was designed to identify
prognostic factors for locoregional recurrences among
patients with colon cancer in the Netherlands.
Methods. The study population was composed of patients
who underwent radical surgical resections for invasive
colon carcinoma, diagnosed in three regions of the Netherlands
from 2000 to 2003. The Kaplan-Meier method was
used to calculate 5-year locoregional recurrence rates
(LRR). Conditional hazard rates were estimated by the lifetable
method. Multivariate Cox regression analyses were
performed to identify prognostic factors and to calculate a
Locoregional Recurrence Risk Score (LRRS).
Results. In total 127 of 2,282 patients developed locoregional
recurrences within 5 years (LRR 6.4%). The risk of
developing a locoregional recurrence was highest at
0.5–1 year after surgery. Patients with left-sided tumors,
T3-T4 tumors, and positive lymph nodes and those who did
not receive adjuvant chemotherapy were more likely to
develop locoregional recurrences. Four risk groups based
on the LRRS were defined. Five-year LRR was 2.5% for
the very low-risk group and 25.1% for the high-risk group.
Conclusions. Although the locoregional recurrence rate in
this study was relatively low, it remains a considerable
problem. Identifying individual patients who might benefit
from adjuvant chemotherapy may reduce the locoregional
recurrence rate
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