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March 22, 2009
Florida Couple Jailed After Cops Find Drunk Woman Breastfeeding Baby - Find Knives, Pills, Poison And Broken Glass In Baby's Room
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Cape Coral, Florida (The Weekly Vice) -- Rene T. Vanalsburg, 42, and Marc E. Rush were jailed early Tuesday morning after police find a drunk/stoned woman breastfeeding a child and poison, glass, pills and knives in the baby's room.
Police were called early Tuesday morning after receiving a report of domestic violence at a Cape Coral home. When officers arrived, they encountered one surprising sight after another.
Police say Vanalsburg was found breastfeeding a baby while clearly drunk and high on narcotics. The child's father was found passed out.
Officers went into the baby's room and found broken glass, ant killer, spray paint and knives on the floor. Police also found a bottle of Oxycodone in the child's crib.
Investigators say the couple had been staying with Vanalsburg's half-sister when the incident occurred. Police were called when Vanalsburg allegedly punched her half-sister in the face.
Vanalsburg was booked into the Lee County Jail on charges child neglect, and two counts of battery. She was arrested again three days later on three counts of battery and violating a domestic violence injunction.
Vanalsburg has a long criminal history which includes drunk driving, battery, breaching the peace and contempt of court. She was a fugitive from justice at one point when she jumped bail and apparently fled to Tennessee. I can't be sure, but it appears she was caught after being pulled over for expired tags.
Rush was booked into the Lee County Jail on charge of child neglect. His delightful criminal history includes repeated arrests for fraud, multiple arrests for marijuana possession, drunk driving and a grab bag of probation violations.
The Weekly Vice Opinion:
Well how do you like that. Put your brawling sister and her dope head boyfriend up in your home and soon they're trashing the place and punching you in the face.
To the sister. It's nice to have family visit, but isn't it even sweeter when they leave?
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It never ceases to amaze me when these 40+-year-old women, who were lucky enough (either naturally or, more frequently, through fertility treatments) to conceive a child, turn around and abuse/neglect the very same child after it's born. What the hell?
- March 23, 2009 at 6:59 AM
and mother of the year goes to...... "the sloppy drunk b*tch in the back!"
- March 23, 2009 at 7:52 AM
Ehh... All I can see is a mixed up guy medicating himself over this broad, and the broad making his life miserable. No wonder he was passed out. He should have cracked the whip on her miserable caboose a long time ago.
- March 23, 2009 at 11:48 AM
Nice, Tony B. but I think "cracking" the whip would consistute domestic violence, as if this baby wasn't injured enough by these lousey parents now you think he should have been beating her as well.
As for the dumb bitch and her waste of a bf I hope that the baby goes to wonderful loving parents and that they NEVER EVER AGAIN are allowed to set eye's on even a picture of her!!!!
- March 23, 2009 at 10:37 PM
Uh, no. Only a weak man needs to resort to measures like that, anonymous.
There are many ways to crack a whip, without resorting to such acts.
Cutting her off from the Bone is lesson enough I'd say.
But if push comes to shove, there are always cleaning chores that can be assigned. There's no room for mouthy trollips in Tony Bone's house.
There's plenty of things to do and fetch.
- March 23, 2009 at 10:57 PM
It's "trollop".
Cutting her off from the bone? Uh-huh.
Now this mouthy broad a chore of her own, cleaning the pepsi off my monitor again. Note to self: No pepsi when reading a certain gentlemen's comments.
- March 29, 2009 at 5:18 PM
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Ageism And Discrimination In Comic Books, or… Whatever Happened to Frank Springer?
AGEISM AND DISCRIMINATION IN COMIC BOOKS, or… WHATEVER HAPPENED TO FRANK SPRINGER?
Does ageism and discrimination exist in comic books today? You decide.
Frank Springer is not only a good guy; he's a very talented artist. During his long career he provided more work than you're ever likely to know about as he ghosted for more than one person on various strips and books. He drew, uncredited, strips such as The Heart Of Juliet Jones, The Phantom, Friday Foster and many more. He began work as an assistant to the late George Wundar on the legendary Terry And The Pirates strip. Natural progression saw his career go from newspaper strips into comic books, first at Dell comics in the 1960s where he both pencilled and inked various books, then to DC and Marvel. Along the way Springer was paired with Frank Robbins to create one of the most unique art teams of the 1970s, bringing a Milton Caniff feel to titles such as The Invaders. At Marvel alone Springer inked artists such as Howard Chaykin, the Buscema brothers; John and Sal, John Romita, virtually the entire Marvel roster and also inked Frank Miller's first ever Daredevil stories (appearing in Spectacular Spider-Man). At DC he inked a who's who of artists, from Curt Swan and Jose Luis Garcia Lopez on down. He also pencilled a number of stories at both companies. Frank Springer never missed a deadline and his work was always of high quality, he never handed in a sub-standard job. He did the best possible job on everything he did. In short Frank Springer was the consummate professional artist. So why isn't Frank Springer still working in comic books?
Clearly he's not dead. He's also not infirm. Indeed he now dabbles in oil painting and is producing gallery standard work that is featured in magazines such as Sports Illustrated. His mind is still very sharp. He didn't move away and not tell anyone where he went. So what happened?
I interviewed Frank on his 78th birthday and towards the end of the interview I asked him outright, what happened? "You were going along great guns," I said, "and then you just kind of vanished. Did you retire?" Frank didn't miss a beat with his reply, "I think that they were going on a youth movement," he replied. "When Stan Lee was there at Marvel, if Stan wanted you, you worked and if Stan didn't want you, you didn't work. When Stan went to the West Coast and left the day to day editing thing there a lot of individual editors hired people who some of us old timers didn't think could really cut it, but that's what they did. I know some artists at the time, better than I was who could also not find work. Fortunately I had some other accounts so that wasn't a huge problem with me, but gradually the comic work did disappear and they used younger artists, figuring the younger artists would get along better with their young clientele and so on. I don't think that improved things, but that's what happens. It was a similar thing at DC. I didn't press it. When they didn't call me I didn't call them."1
Franks reply didn't shock me in the slightest. I told Frank that I'd heard it before from many artists over the age of 40. Frank also told me that he knew the end was near when his good friend, Don Heck, was also involuntarily 'retired' from the comic book industry. Luckily Frank Springer had other, better paying accounts to fall back on. He wasn't reliant on his comic book work and had no emotional attachment to the characters, so he just moved on, as he'd done throughout his long and illustrious career. It's a common mantra and most editors will tell you that taste changes and that, and only that, is the reason why artists suddenly find they're no longer given work. There is a common thread throughout this mantra, virtually all the artists are 40 or over. Changing tastes never claims anyone under the age of 30. An article written for 1988's W.A.P. magazine illustrates the mentality of hiring young talent perfectly. Despite being written twenty years ago the contents of this article are still very relevant and could easily fit into today's current situation. In part it states, "The company execs, no matter how old they or their views may be, would rather identify themselves and their editorial regimes with the young, the new, the different. If you don't have New Ideas, you can at least ballyhoo that you have New Talent... even if the New Talent often just imitates or follows what the Old Talent has done."2
When asked about why he left the comic book industry veteran inker Mike Esposito replied, "I never really retired; people just didn't want me anymore. The doors were closed. It was forced retirement; not fired, but not hired."3 In Mike's case his page rates were cut when everyone else enjoyed a rise at the company where he worked. Mike was ready for it though; he'd seen it before and had been on the other side. In the late 1950s he and artistic partner, the great Ross Andru, 'inherited' Wonder Woman from the aging Harry Peter who was removed from the title for having a 'dated' look, art wise. Decades later, in the early 1990s, Hulk artist Herb Trimpe was similarly forced out of Marvel in a very public manner. After being told to draw like Rob Liefeld (with disastrous results), Trimpe was given less and less work until the soul destroying day when his dismissal papers were Fed-Ex'd to him under the guise of it being a script for him to draw. The script turned up at the same time, Trimpe drew it, it never saw print. Then there was the veteran artist who wondered why he had not been given work for months on end. Upon phoning the company he was surprised to learn that an order had been issued to stop sending scripts, art and indeed royalty payments to the artist because he was believed to be dead. That was back in 1989, the artist is still alive today and going strong, but not working in comic books anymore and amazingly enough his career ended right when the company in question declared him deceased. After his amazing 'resurrection' the artist found regular work with another company. Over the years I've interviewed a lot of artists and have raised this very topic. Jerry Bingham was frank about the reasons why he doesn't draw comic books anymore. "If you're not conforming to the house style then a lot of times you're just pushed out of the loop," he told me. "I feel really feel sorry for some of these guys, especially those who got pushed out of comics later on in life and had nowhere else to take their talent. Who wants to try out a guy who's already fifty years old? It's a too-common story. It's sad."4 Bob Hall was also upfront when the topic of ageism in comic books was raised. "Denny O'Neil and I were talking about it the last time I saw him," he said, "and he told me he was getting a lot of it from people he knew, and he knows a hell of a lot more people than I know, of people who were not even really that old, people in their 40s who were feeling that the editors were so young and, again, it's pretty common for you not to hire someone a hell of a lot older than you are. So editors were hiring people who they felt were their contemporaries. That's just always the case and unless you somehow become one of those people who not only feel indispensable but really are, you're going to have those difficulties."5 As bad as any of those stories sound, they're not an aberration. Even Joe Quesada isn't immune, if you believe his own words. "I know that there will come a day for me, and for every creator, where people lose interest in your work. You lose your voice, whatever that may be. It happens to everybody. It will happen to me, it will happen to the best of us. Essentially, it's Darwinism. It happens, and you just have to move on. If the comic book industry has passed you by, it has passed you by. We need to rely on new, young voices. If we're not hiring people, it's because, traditionally, their styles are not going to sell." 6
Let me run some names past you. Bob Budiansky, Norm Breyfogle, Jon Bogdanove, Brett Blevins, Bob Hall, Jerry Bingham, Mark Bright, Brett Breeding, Steve Mitchell, Alan Kupperberg, Bob McLeod, Rich Buckler, Dick Ayers, Mike Ploog, Jim Mooney, Alex Saviuk, Al Milgrom, Mark Badger, Paul Ryan, John Beatty, Sam DeLaRosa, Mike Zeck, Michael Netzer, Rick Levins, James Fry, Terry Austin, Josef Rubinsein, Brent Anderson, Pablo Marcos, Dave Hunt, Larry Lieber – this list can go on for pages. They're all artists who were prominent at both Marvel and DC in the 1970s and '80s and who, as near as I can tell, aren't working for either company anymore. Some have found work with smaller, independent companies; some ply their wares doing commissions and recreations. Some, like Saviuk and Ryan, work in the world of newspaper strips. Others, such as Milgrom, Breyfogle and Austin who, along with veteran DC inker Bob Smith, work for companies such as Archie and First Salvo. And then there are those, like McLeod and Zeck, who appear to have totally given up on comic books due to politics, McLeod now works as an editor for the highly regarded Rough Stuff magazine and teaches, Zeck works in licensing. There are exceptions to any rule, however, and that's true for this situation as well. Neal Adams, George Perez, Jim Starlin, Frank Miller, John Byrne, Walt Simonson, Joe Kubert and Howard Chaykin appear to always be able to get work, and virtually all of those artists work on their own terms or not at all. So why do some get work and others don't even get the courtesy of a phone call telling them, officially, that their careers are dead?
I recently had a series of (at times heated) discussions with a senior editor at a major comic book company over this very topic. He was insistent that no-one is 'let go' or not given work due to age alone. The excuse given was that, "no-one is owed work by anyone." The claim that had been put to him was that editors at companies, if faced with hiring an established talent at a set page rate or a newer (read younger) talent just breaking in at a lower rate, will always plump for the cheaper option. It's not an unreasonable statement to make and from a purely financial stance is both sound and logical. Editors are beholden to the companies they work for to make as much profit as quickly as possible. They have to be efficient, and efficiency often means both saving and making as much money as can be done in order to keep the company in business. Success in both fields ultimately enables the editor to retain their job. Much like the time honoured adage with the movie business, friendships are a liability, as is loyalty to any one person. The editor disagreed, as I said, at times almost with a violence that took me by surprise. "Every artist has to prove with every job that they're the best guy for the assignment, better than everybody else in the industry and better than all of the young artists clamouring to get into the industry," I was told, "at no point is anyone considered to be safe." I replied with the obvious response, how can anyone prove that they're good enough if they stop getting assignments? There was no answer to that question.
An older artist attempting to gain work in today's climate will often be asked to submit samples of their work. The problem here is that it's often seen as an insult to some who've worked their lives at various companies and believe that their body of work should speak for itself, for better or for worse. This isn't a new problem, showing samples has always been the best way to enter the industry, but when you've spent eight years drawing a Spider-Man title alone, not to mention the other assignments you picked up along the way, are samples really necessary? The argument here is yes, the editor needs to see if the artist can still cut it. Twenty years ago an unknown artist stated, "It's damned embarrassing, that's what it is. I worked for that company for twenty -odd years, did thousands of pages. And now, when I call up and try to get work, some Editor asks me how to spell my name and tells me to send samples of my work. They tell me my work doesn't sell but when I ask them what does, they show me stuff that is very badly drawn in some cases."7 It's amazing that nothing has changed in twenty years since that quote. I recently had an exchange with an artist who spent a good number of years working on a flagship title for one of the Big Two. He won awards and is well respected in the comic book community and industry. Writers have told me that they'd love to work with him ("I thought he retired?" was one question I received, to which I replied, "No, he hasn't.") and other artists adore his work. However he can't buy a job at either of the major companies, despite his many years of producing high quality work and some of the best sales figures seen in ages. He's been asked to submit samples, despite his working constantly for smaller companies in recent years. When I mentioned to an editor that an artists work was featured in books at the stores now and as such all he had to do was buy a copy, I was told, "No, he (the artist) has to send me samples (my emphasis)." It almost felt as if I were assaulting the editor's intellect by daring suggest that he go and source a book from another company showcasing the artists work. However the artist did take this as an insult and has now all but given up doing any work for either of the major companies. I wonder what the reply would be if the editor in question was asked to submit samples to retain his job.
It's the age old argument, you can't have the job as you don't have any recent experience, but you can't get any experience without the job. Thus an artist who hasn't worked at a major company for, let's say five years, will find it near impossible to break back in. Editors will leave and each new editor coming in seems more determined to discover the next Jim Lee than they are hiring established talent. Also, if an editor gives a break to a younger talent, then they can establish a relationship with the artist, thus hopefully securing their job ("If you sack me then I'll take Johnny Sixpack with me!"). During my discussions with the editor in question a comment really leapt out to me, "This industry is littered with the bodies of people who once worked in it, but were kicked to the curb at some point (editors as well as artists and writers)." I'm not sure about you, but to me that's a cold statement, and as close to the truth I think anyone can get. What the editor could have said is that the industry is lettered with the bodies of people who once worked in it, but were kicked to the curb due to an inability or unwillingness to play the political game successfully. For a lot of people, in this day and age, a kind of unrelated nepotism exists in the industry, call it cronyism if you will, but it comes down to who knows you and who likes you. You can be one of the worst artists that ever picked up a pencil, but if you've kept your nose tanned then you'll always be in work. Again, this isn't anything new. People have often wondered how an artist like Vinnie Colletta managed to get as much work at Marvel in the 1980s as he did. Other than he appears to have never missed a deadline in his life (good or bad, his work was always on time) he was also a close personal friend (and supporter of) former Marvel Editor-In-Chief Jim Shooter. It's now a well known fact that once Shooter was ousted from Marvel, Colletta followed shortly after.
Keeping the books fresh and an issue with reliability are other arguments that you'll hear. The classic examples used in recent times are the return of Peter David to the Hulk and John Byrne to the X-Men. David had been removed previously, Byrne had written and often drawn the X-Men throughout his career but hadn't done a regular run on any X-Title as an artist since he left Uncanny X-Men in the early 1980s. In both cases Marvel have claimed that sales actually went down with the return of the creators, something I do find hard to swallow, but then they have the sales reports to back it up. But why does one project sell more than another, and would a new artist sell more copies of Batman than Neal Adams? "There's the fact that almost anyone sells if they're hyped enough," said Norm Breyfogle when asked this very question, "I've always maintained that the ethical path for a comics company is to consciously hype the best talent. It's obvious that Marvel and DC only very inconsistently do this."8 Steve Englehart and Marshall Rogers were originally signed up to create two six issue mini-series for DC. The first mini-series was hyped as the triumphant return to Batman by the legendary creative team (totally ignoring that both men had linked up previously for a story arc on the Legend Of The Dark Knight title). However when the sales on the first mini-series came in under what was expected the second series was put on indefinite hold. Sales are a factor, which brings me back to a previous point, editors and publishers exist to ensure profit rules over anything else, including creativity. Having said that, without creativity profit might well fade, but what excuse can be given for DC asking Alan Grant and Norm Breyfogle to submit a Batman proposal only to reject it outright (which happened as recently as 2007, a proposal that Grant later told me was the strongest Batman story he'd had in years 9)? It can't be sales or a fading popularity as sales were at an all time high when Grant, Breyfogle and Mitchell were the creative team on Batman, and there's been sustained support and calls for Grant and Breyfogle to return to Batman since the last time the duo worked on the character, the one shot Batman: Dreamland, published in 2000. Oddly enough Breyfogle is 47 years old, Grant is 58. And remember, Herb Trimpe was selling over 500,000 copies of the Hulk when he worked on it and that didn't stop Marvel from throwing him out like an old tube of Crest. When you reach a certain point in time, a certain age, sales mean nothing. Like anything a publisher can reach into the past to use what they want, when they want, for whatever benefit they can get.
So is it ageism or discrimination? It smacks of both to most outside observers and also to a lot of insiders. There are those who insist that the removal of an artists ability to work in their chosen field has nothing to do with age, it's down to taste, personality, the ability to hustle successfully for a job or a willingness to engage in politics. Luckily there are schemes set up to assist comic book creators who find themselves out of work for extended periods of time and in need of money, but age shouldn't prevent a person from being hired.
Is it a case of changing trends and taste? Possibly. Consider though that a number of artists would be more than willing to evolve and change their styles if given the chance, but those chances are rarely given. Taste is a subjective thing and largely dictated by the companies themselves, via their editors. A person sitting at a desk will decide what people want to read and act accordingly. A friend of mine recently commented that, "Mainstream comics producers seem to be obsessed with capturing some elusive youth demographic, to the exclusion of all others, which ignores who buys most of their stuff (not necessarily youths) and what most youths buy (not necessarily comics)."
Is it a case of reliability? Reliability can be a curse for some artists. Some can hit their deadlines each and every time; others can't manage to no matter the incentive. An editor will claim that some artists are denied work due to issues with reliability; again, a publisher is in the business to make as much money as possible. It doesn't make any sense to hire an artist (or a writer) that cannot produce work to a deadline. With Marvel, at least, this argument appears to be null and void to a degree. Marvel has a recent history of naming and shaming those who fail to produce work to deadline. While this appears to be a sound practice on the surface, consider that the company is very selective with whom they name and shame. The artist who worked on the relaunched Daredevil series managed to produce twelve issues of a regular, monthly, comic book between December 1998 and May 2000. The same artist then went to launch the title Daredevil: Father, as a six issue mini series in 2004. This series was concluded in 2007. The artist still gets work and is actively employed at Marvel currently, in the capacity of Editor-In-Chief. Still, it's no use at all blaming the EIC for the current policies. Ageism and discrimination against creators begins at the entry level, editor wise. Most EICs will remove themselves from the drudgery of day-to-day comic books (unless they're working on a title) and don't hire, or really fire, the talent. However when an editor at that company denies a creator work and uses reliability and a concern for a failure to meet deadlines as an excuse, more than likely it's merely a smokescreen of an excuse as concessions are routinely given. Taking three years to produce a six issue mini-series would be enough to have any other artist removed from the project entirely.
Why is more not said publicly? Is there a blacklist against creators who speak out against such practices? I can answer that only with a response that I received from an artist who I'd contacted about this very topic. "Look, I know why I don't get work," he wrote, "it's because I'm 55 years old and they want young guys. They're cheaper." I asked would he go on record only to be told, "No. You can use the quote but don't attribute it to me, because someone might read it and then I'll definitely never get work. As it is if I'm quiet then someone might relent and hire me, eventually." The fear of total removal from the comic book industry I'm sure has more than one person living in a minor state of uncertainty about who to speak to. I'm not convinced that an official blacklist exists, alternately no-one can convince me other than that an unofficial blacklist not only exists but is utilised when decisions are made as to who to hire for a job. Again, it's an age old problem, if you blow the whistle, or speak out publicly, then be ready to never work again because you're going to upset someone along the line. This is why creators are prepared to speak about these topics, ageism and blacklisting, but will not allow attribution to their comments or observations. However some people are prepared to speak, probably because they believe that they no longer have anything to lose as their comic book careers are all but officially finished. Steve Mitchell recently told me, on the record, "When I got into the business I was always told that if you did your job well, on time, and you sort of lived up to your end of the bargain, their end of the bargain was you were part of the business and the business would then take care of you. It was said, sort of in those words to me by a couple of editors back in the day, but never like officially stated."10 Eventually Mitchell was also let go. "Nobody wanted to give me work," he said, "it was kind of like you would get fired off a regular book and it was in essence a pink slip from the company and the business."
Comic books are supposed to be a happy medium, for the most part, and creators are interchangeable. Batman exists not because Bob Kane and Bill Finger wrote and drew the character in 1939, but because of all those who have come since. Ask young people who created Batman today and they're likely to say Jim Lee or Frank Miller (for better or worse). That's the way of the world. However in my time I've come across more than one artist who is convinced that they're on a blacklist for whatever crime that they've committed against the industry, or the people within.
Are any of the artists I've mentioned, and the numerous others I've not mentioned, any good? It does depend on taste, but give me a Dick Ayers Sgt Fury any day. Give me a Breyfogle Batman, with or without Steve Mitchell. Steve Leialoha's art still excites me. However some artists have given into the inevitable and gone into full time retirement as they know that the phone will never ring. Regardless I seriously doubt we'll be seeing any of them in the near future, if at all, displaying their talents on anything published by Marvel or DC outside of reprints. The best advice I'd give to anyone breaking into comic books today is to make as much money as fast as possible and to make very wise investments, because when you reach that certain point in your life, the work will vanish, unless you are the next Neal Adams or Jim Lee. Completely. And you'll be the one wondering why the phone not only doesn't ring, but it doesn't answer at the other end when you make the call.
1 Interview with Frank Springer, 06/12/2007
2 'Will You Still Need Me, Will You Still Feed Me?' W.A.P. Issue #4, July 1988, editors Frank Miller, Steven Grant, Steven Gerber
3 Partners For Life; Mike Esposito/Daniel Best, 2007 Hermes Press
4 Interview with Jerry Bingham, January 2005
5 Interview with Bob Hall, 30/01/2004
6 Darwinism In Comics by Lee Nordling, Silver Bullet Comics.com
7 'Will You Still Need Me, Will You Still Feed Me?' W.A.P. Issue #4, July 1988, editors Frank Miller, Steven Grant, Steven Gerber
8 Email from Norm Breyfogle, 09/12/2007
9 Email from Alan Grant, January 2007
10 Interview with Steve Mitchell, July 2007
18 comments:
- Johnny B said...
Excellent piece, and I hope the right eyes get to read it.
One thing, though- Steve Leialoha is still inking Fables for DC, although I haven't seen his superior pencils/inks on anything for a long while now...
- Wednesday, December 26, 2007 12:32:00 pm
Some of those artists you mentioned (Mike Zeck, Norm Breyfogle, Al Milgrom, and John Beatty) are my most favorite artists of all time.
I can't believe Norm is 47. I figured 40, tops. Yeesh, I must be getting old myself.
Great article, it disappoints me to hear about the politics of the comic industry. It's completely ridiculous.
Keep educating us Danny! Thanks, George Travlos
- Wednesday, December 26, 2007 1:01:00 pm
- plok said...
Wonderful and timely article, thanks for this. I'd add a thought about age-exclusion that has nothing to do with comics, in fact nothing to do with anything except my own personal observations: frequently a new or young boss wants to get rid of an older or more experienced employee because a) they think having someone around who knows the job better than they do makes them look stupid (it often does), and b) that younger bosses often feel a sense of nagging guilt in the presence of their older employees, that subconsciously makes them want to kick 'em in the ribs. And maybe some of that's a wish to play big shot, and maybe some of it's fear of the face in the mirror, and maybe those two things are really kind of the same, but anyway I think it's a pretty widespread phenomenon, that makes for lots of bad decisions in lots of different corporate enterprises.
Just my unasked-for two cents.
Excellent post, bravo.
- Wednesday, December 26, 2007 10:38:00 pm
I'm kind of wondering about that, myself. Being on the verge of 40 years of age, I often wonder if there'll come a day when I might get kicked to the curb by some young hotshot with a guilty conscience and a nagging sense of dread of his impending mortality. Like the artists mentioned in your article, I've decided to live and let live, or else become a bitter old man with grudges against everyone. Good article.
- Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:45:00 am
Just read your article on ageism in comics. I think it's true, and self-perpetuating. Once you're out for a couple of years, everyone's forgotten you. You could also send in all the goddam samples you want, you'll never work for Marvel or DC again. I'm just glad I phased into animation back in the mid-80s. Being a business where real skill is required, someone like me is more highly valued. In comics it's often enough to just draw interestingly, not even well.
Paper comics are dying anyway. More power to Comicmix and Wowio, I say! Woodsman, spare that tree and download it for 99 cents instead.
And you can quote me on that.
- Thursday, December 27, 2007 3:43:00 pm
- Aaron Poehler said...
While there are many good points in this piece, I think it's telling that many artists who aren't getting work get their noses in a snit when asked to submit samples, thinking they're somehow above that. Newsflash: if an editor asks for samples, you're not. Old, young, whatever, unless you're a household name on the level of Frank Miller or Todd McFarlane not everyone will be familiar with the breadth of your work, and it's not the editor's job to go out and buy copies of your books to familiarize themselves with it. Suck it up and send in samples if you want to get work, and if you want to massage your ego and claim it's beneath you, well, don't complain that it was because you're "too old."
- Friday, December 28, 2007 4:54:00 am
- Danny said...
Yeah, but here's the kicker - the two artists mentioned that were told to supply samples were household names. I know the identity of the artist mentioned in the W.A.P. article and his list of credits goes back to the 1940s - indeed both Miller and McFarlane have cited him as an influence. The second, more recent artist, is still working, albeit for smaller publishers, and is also a household name having worked on many high profile gigs, and is considered to be one of the best artists to touch a certain title. Any editor who knows their comics knows both guys work, if they don't then they'd be just plain ignorant. As for McFarlane, well he hasn't drawn a comic book for how long, so who knows what his art looks like now. You're right, I'd ask him to supply samples.
- Friday, December 28, 2007 6:44:00 am
Interesting read. Here are a couple of thoughts...
I cannot help but wonder if one significant aspect of this is due to the ready avaliability of young artists who are willing, indeed, eager, to work for a pittance, because it gives them the opportunity to draw the characters they grew up reading. At first these artists are so thrilled to be drawing Spider-Man or Batman or whoever that they don't care that they are being underpaid. After a while, though, as the excitement & novelty wears off, these artists start asking for better pay. At which point Marvel and/or DC can dump them and go to the next generation of fans for naive, cheap labor. And the cycle continues on.
Of course, it also helps if you happen to have an "in" with an editor. As the saying goes, it's not what you know, but who you know. It's unfortunate, but artists like Frank Springer, Norm Breyfogle, or Frank Brunner would probably be getting assignments if they were drinking buddies with the editorial guys at Marvel and DC.
- Friday, December 28, 2007 6:44:00 am
Thanks for researching and writing this article. I hope it gains a wide audience.
Just an FYI: Ben is right. Many if not most comics companies are just plain CHEAP. They have not paid comparable professional rates in the history of their existence; they don't have to, as there's always been a much greater supply of artists than demand. (And that has only grown over the years.)
The extra money required to pay an experienced artist has to be much less than the extra sales his/her name will bring in, since unit sales have been dropping dramatically since the 1960s. Unless the editor is familiar with them and thinks they have a large enough audience, he will usually go the cheapest route possible. Since many of today's editors are half (or less than half) the age of the great artists you mention, and are not familiar with comic history, you can guess the outcome.
This can actually be positive for many of the older artists, however, as they discover there are several other commercial outlets for their talents that pay REAL world rates.
Hence the reason Wrightson, Ploog, Stout, Royer, Adams, Kaluta, and even younger guys like Platt and Fraga end up doing storyboards, illustration, animation, commissions, fine art and so on.
BTW, on the good side, Gene Colan, at over 80 years of age, is currently pencilling an annual of Captain America, thanks to his fans and an enlightened editor.
Miracles do happen sometimes. :-)
Mike Pascale
- Friday, December 28, 2007 5:33:00 pm
- Norm Breyfogle said...
Great article, Danny.
As I've wrtten on my forum, I think there are many reasons that good talent is booted out the door, including any one, combination, or all of the following, in no particular order:
1) cronyism and grudges
2) page rates / minimum pay rates for vets
3) ageism
4) bad aesthetic judgement / not promoting or not properly marketing the best product
5) following trends inappropriately, poorly, or in an ill-timed manner
6) ignorance or pessimism re the true potential of graphic storytelling / lack of long-term vision
7) outright market manipulation and promoting of propaganda
8 ) repression and censorship
In the time since I compiled this list I've been given more and more reason to believe that agesim may indeed be the most to blame across the board, although I think all the items on the list play a role to greater or lesser degree in various cases.
In my own case, I believe I was let go for both ageism and even more importantly for political reasons/personal grudges. In 2000 (when I turned 40) I was suddenly being totally rejected for all jobs at Marvel and DC (I believe this may have been simply stupid, systemic ageism), and after 9 difficult months (during with I had to radically downsize my life; these companies are regularly ruining creators' lives in this manner) I read Joe Quesada's "Darwinism" comments (refering to older comics pros) in a CBG article about Marvel's talent search. Well, I was incensed enough by that pseudoscientific rationalization to cause me to write a number of letters to CBG's "Oh, so?" letter column in which I speculated about why Marvel (and DC Comics) was treating much or most of their top talent in this abysmal manner.
I've been told recently by a present, top Marvel editor that those CBG letters of mine amounted to my "committing career suicide."
So much for free speech.
Any way you cut it, I've therefore been clearly ousted for political reasons, since free speech - even rational, unemotional free speech - is a highly political matter.
Since then, I've submitted numerous samples and proposals and have been shot down each time.
I believe that anyone who looks at my record of work and my present abilities would find it hard to justify why DC and Marvel have shut me out so completely. My viability in the marketplace is constantly being well demonstrated by both my continued employment with the Indies as well as by my illustration work outside of comics.
And btw, I refuse to hide, which is why I always post on all websites under my own real name.
- Saturday, December 29, 2007 1:22:00 pm
- antonio said...
Daniel you are an amazing journalist..damn it is really scary the view!!
I am taking the liberty to link you on the article!!
Have a great day!!
- Saturday, December 29, 2007 2:24:00 pm
- Steve Lieber said...
I'm not enough of an insider at any publisher to speak to most of the points raised here, but there is one that I do have an answer for:
"...how can anyone prove that they're good enough if they stop getting assignments? There was no answer to that question."
One answer is to do creator-owned projects. Combine the freedom from editorial directives with all that hard-won knowledge and experience and tell better, more compelling, more *personal* stories than any young freelancer working on a micro-managed crossover ever possibly could.
- Monday, December 31, 2007 10:24:00 am
I really enjoyed this article and don't dispute its point at all, but there is one thing I must ask about, and given my history on other message boards of people apparently thinking a serious question was put forth as a rhetorical and sarcastic one, I repeat and emphasize that I AM seriously asking. At one point you wrote, "So is it ageism or discrimination? It smacks of both...." If the definition of "ageism" is not "discrimination on the basis of age," what is it?
- Tuesday, January 01, 2008 6:03:00 am
- Danny said...
Ted, which message boards are you talking about?
From where I sit there's two types of discrimination going on here - ageism, which is a form of discrimination, and also a discrimination in the form of a banning of creators for being either outspoken or due to an inability to play the political game when it comes to hustling for a job. An artist has to be constanly be on the ball and if they somehow offend an editor, either real or imagined, then they're denied work - pure and simple. That's not right at all.
- Tuesday, January 01, 2008 7:01:00 am
I completely agree. I find it stunning that Herb Trimpe can't get work, and I'm even more upset after reading that story of how he was fired.
It's ageism like this, and the short memory of editors and fans, that led me to hire Bill Messner-Loebs to draw a five-page story for my upcoming horror anthology. Mr. Breyfogle, if you're reading this, I'd love to have you work on some of my humble books sometime.
Nik Havert
- Thursday, January 03, 2008 8:43:00 am
- LordShazam said...
This is an excellent article and I'm already recommending it to everyone I know.
But here's another wrinkle on the ageism debate: what if you're trying to break INTO the business and you're over 40? Will the door be closed to you once the powers that be realize that you're not twenty-something?
- Saturday, January 05, 2008 7:43:00 am
- Danny said...
We may yet find out. I'm in the process of finishing the script to a back-up feature for a small press title. However I doubt highly that unless I was a 'name' author, or knew someone on the inside, I'd even get a look in at Marvel or DC.
- Saturday, January 05, 2008 7:52:00 am
A really great article. Some very scary truths.
Any older creators looking for a good creator owned deal drop us a line.
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2014 World Cup: Jeffrey Schlupp 'gutted' to have missed final Ghana roster
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England-based defender Jeffrey Schlupp says he is 'gutted' not to be making the final Ghana squad for the 2014 World Cup.
The 21-year-old failed to make the cut in the final Black Stars squad named by coach Kwesi Appiah on Sunday morning.
Schlupp emerged a surprise inclusion in the provisional 26-man squad despite playing a key role to help Leicester City seal a return to the English top flight.
The left-back however appears to have paid for his below-par performance in the 1-0 defeat to the Netherlands in an international friendly on Saturday.
Schlupp slipped at a vital point to let in Robin Van Persie finish comfortably in what eventually proved to be the winner of the game played in Rotterdam.
He subsequently failed to make his presence felt both in attack and in defence – ultimately costing him a place in Ghana's final squad for this month's tournament in Brazil.
The ex Brentford loanee admits he is hugely disappointed to be chunked off the final squad but looks to pick up vital lessons from his experience with the Black Stars.
"Great season has come to an end. Gutted not to be going to the WC but time to relax with my family now and get myself ready for next season!†Schlupp Tweeted.
"Another great experience playing against a quality team and some world class players infront of 50 000 fans!â€
Schlupp joined injured Jerry Akaminko and David Accam as the trio to have failed to make the final Ghana squad for the World Cup.
The Germany-born Ghanaian will now be returning to his base in England as the Black Stars head to the USA to finalize their preparations for the World Cup.
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Xperiment says:June 02, 2014 09:23 amNobody in dis world will ever understand y barca plays Tello with Pedro or Affellay on d bench.It's all abt choices which in dis case I think is a vry disgusting choice 2 leave Adusei in Ksi n take jxt 3 centre backs n a clueless inkoom 2 a world cup.I think ppl shd rewatch d ghana -uruguay match n see hw confused he was,trying 2 stop an aerial ball with his foot 2 say d least.I'm glad someone said 'kick n chase'.Dats d only thing he can do. Again,which tactically- minded coach will take 3 right footed players(inkoom,opare, afful) with d intention of deploying one as left back?.Hw many teams on dis earth have their first choice left backs 2 b right footed?.Dats insane! Accam was nt even given d chance 2 prove himself but u can play adomah 4 full time, bring kevin, dede,who've already proved themselves 2 b gud players n u tell us u had only six substitutions 2 make.Dis is jxt crazy! I wish AA proves me wrong but until den,I think he's really told us indirectly dat we shd support d team with our eyes n nt our heart. I wish d team d best of luck anyway
MythBuster says:June 02, 2014 06:28 amThe truth be said the entire ghana team played badly on that day,with the exception of the goal keeper,like Arsene Wenger rightly said,African teams lacks some level of unity and in some situation,some players think that they are bigger than others or how else can one justify Essein backing the field when he was changed or players refusing to come in for the injured Akaminko,it is the height of indiscipline for a team going to world cup.Wenger went ahead to tip Nigeria above other African teams because of their unity of purpose and stephen Keshi cutting every player to size and you can see their burning desire to die for their country,just like south Americans and Europians!I pray that our ghanian national team only gets better and drop their stinking ego.
sammy says:June 02, 2014 01:27 amWhy do we always complain wen there is no reason to. Each coach has a reason for picking certain crop of players he thinks can deliver for him. Believe me if we give all the pple who just commented here the chance to pick their team we all will hv a different set of players. Firstly, why will u cut your only right footed winger (Adomah) from ur team wen u don't hv any better right footed wingers. He's effective at right. Jeff Schlupp was given 2 matches to show wat he can add to the team and he proved he didn't hv anything exceptional. He did well this season but so did Adomah who u guys shd knw was the top scorer for his team "as a winger''. Let's give those in charge a break and support the team as best as we can nd stop this thgs we throw around. if u think u can do a beta job jxt apply the next time we are lukn for a coach.
Jojo says:June 02, 2014 02:52 amIt seems you don't understand football my friend.
KwasiB.Addo says:June 01, 2014 09:29 pmHere is the best possible line up for Ghana in my opinion. Asamoah plays in an expansive role for Juventus along the left flank where he both tracks defenders and initiates offence. With this set up he can be a reliable LB as supposed to the unreliable inkoom. What you think?? Formation 4-2-3-1 Kwarasey Opare Mensah Boye K.Asamoah Essien Prince A.Ayew. Gyan. Atsu Waris
AfricanConsciousness says:June 03, 2014 12:53 amDude you played your heart out against the Netherlands but you were not focused on defense. If you had focused all your attention on defending you would be in Miami en route to Brazil. The Coach brought you in for one purpose and that was to play defense. You were the left full back and your whole being for 90+ minutes should have been focused on the right forward which was Robin Van Persie or whoever was playing that right side of attack and taking them completely out of the game. You wanted to show the Coach you could play more than the full back position and you said that to the media too. You made some good runs on the wing but that is not why the Coach brought you in. That scattered approach to the game and the fancy pair of cleats that you got for free cost you a trip to the World Cup. Next time get your own pair of boots and make sure you have one regular and a second pair that is studded for wet or slippery turf. You will be back, there is nothing wrong with your game. Dr Coach Appiah has a track record of calling back improved rejects as you can attest yourself. Keep your chin up and keep working hard.
AfricanConsciousness says:June 03, 2014 01:22 amAdomah did not grow up playing Colt soccer in Ghana so he does not have the skills nor the flair of a typical Ghanaian player so stop comparing him to the romantic picture of a homegrown Ghanaian player. He grew up playing his game in Great Britain. The guy has physique and he is a work horse. Every coach looks for a workhorse who would work relentlessly for him in the midfield. A player whol would run all day helping in attack and tracking back on defense with the same intensity for 90+ minutes, this is why Albert Adomah is on the team. You guys need to go watch Ben Hur. Out of the four horses in the chariot race in the Roman coliseum each had its own strength, speed, stamina, courage, steadfastness etc. Adomah brings a lot of good qualities to the Black Stars and I hope his team-mates embrace him because he will help us in Brazil especially if the Coach brings him off the bench when all the players from the other team are at their breaking point from the Brazilian conditions. Adomah should not start ahead of Dede on the right wing. For the Black Stars to survive the qualifying round the Coach must have all his star players on the starting line up in each and every game. Gyan, Muntari, Dede, Essien, KPB and Kwadwo Assamoah. I would not classify Adam Kwarasey as a star but he has earned the starting position because he was a 90+ minute contributor for a team that won a championship and he showed against some of the best strikers in the world that he is ready to take on the mantle that Olele left for him. Bring on 3 of the best young stars that the Black Stars currently possess to complete these aforementioned big 7. I also nominate Rabiu Mohammed to shadow Ronaldo for 90+ minutes. Where ever he goes, what ever he does Rabiu should be there to spoil it. Get someone else to beat Ghana but Rabiu should not give Ronaldo any breathing room. Or the Coach could split the assignment between Rabiu and Agyeman Badu. They must not allow Ronaldo to touch the ball. Defend Ronaldo and do nothing else if you win the ball from him just pass it to a team mate and then get back to doing your job, take Ronaldo out of the game.
cofie says:June 01, 2014 03:14 pmI am one man who does not like to question the decision of the coach but the inclusion of Adoma in this squard made me raise an eye brow. What has the coach seen in him that we cannot see? To Jeff, more opportunities will come. Do not worry
samva says:June 01, 2014 03:51 pmjust keep working hard and your time will surely come
Steve says:June 01, 2014 03:54 pmHow can we go to the World Cup with only 6 defenders?? None of our defenders are left footed. None of our defenders play left back at club level. Yet we have five players who can only play Defensive Midfield. Bad choices from Kwesi Appiah
Kwabena says:June 01, 2014 04:21 pmAdomah is genetically gifted. That is his only strength. However, he hardly completes any passes and it seems the members of the team still can't accept him. Yes, sometimes we need to speak up against corruption in the team. Kwasi Appiah's corrupt inclusion of Derek Boateng in two AFCONs costed us the wins. Let us hope Adomah's inclusion will not cause major upsets and he will not be used in a sensitive role. TRIBALISM AND FAVORITISM!
James Ansah says:June 01, 2014 04:26 pmI guess we all got our wish From from the Accra Station Omen even got it right in dropping Schlupp but all the same I wish Jeff Schlupp good luck and work hard at your defensive duties and in attack played good not below par everyone makes mistakes in falling and slipping but one game should not be the end of him keep your head up work hard your time will come again there are African Cup Of Nations and the World Cup in Russia come back Stronger Jeff Schlupp from this good experience Lewis appiah coach give him another chance please to prove himself again and all other left backs in ghana and foreign based players equal opportunity. Jeff Schlupp. U are young and I noticed that u are still learning to play left back like it said keep working hard and your defensive positioning duties and in attack for Leciester City your time will come soon just u wait to prove every Ghanaian fans and everyone wrong. Jeff Schlupp be strong my boy I will keep on supporting you and you have a new fan in me and everyone else.
benny says:June 01, 2014 04:16 pmschlupp has himself to blame.He was given an opportunity and he screwed up.He can only work hard going forward.Lots of people root for his inclusion but it was not to be. The whole team were not properly laid out making it difficult for the players expecially the new ones. The way forward is to hope we don't have any more injuries.Its good we lost to Holland.This will erode any complacency and improve the quest to work hard on tactics.
James Ansah says:June 01, 2014 04:29 pmI mean to say Kwesi Appiah not Lewis Appiah.
Ghanaman says:June 01, 2014 04:27 pmHow can people compare adoma to him. My friend different position. TAKE INKOOM OUT PAIR OPARE WITH ADOMAH .INKOOM WAS LOST ON TV YESTERDAY ADOMAH WAS SPACE FREE. You need to watch the whole game before you anaylse. All we saw on tv was adomah and his hands calling for beautiful passes which never came. Tweea.
Kwabena says:June 01, 2014 04:44 pmHow can you say such a demoralizing thing? Now, I am sure the boy has regretted naturalizing for Ghana instead of Germany. He could get a place to pair with Jerome Boateng if he had stayed German. WHAT ON EARTH IS ADOMAH ADDING TO THE TEAM? Yesterday, yes, Schlupp slipped, but give me ONLY ONE point that Adomah passed a single ball successfully in the game, only ONE. He is a waste. The only difference is that Schlupp is young and he could have been groomed for the future. Moreover, Adomah seem to have been ostracized by the other players. No one gave him a single pass, maybe they also knew what they were doing because Adomah was probably destined to waste every single ball he got. This is exactly what Kwasi Appiah did with Derek Boateng that cost Ghana the AFCONs in 2012 and 2013. It was the same mistake that Claude Leroy did when he sold Ghana to Cameroun in 2008 AFCON when he fielded the 18 year old Dede Ayew ahead of Ampima Barusso who was willing to work hard. Tribalism and favoritism will not take us anywhere.
Adebayo says:June 01, 2014 05:05 pmWhen a coach has gifted players but cannot develop a system to utilize the players to the best of their ability, then he is sure to make wrong choices! AA has no ideas that can bring out the best in these young talents so he confuses them and goes back to his 'kick and chase' system with Afful and Inkoom!
anokwale says:June 01, 2014 05:04 pmThings happen for a reason. I think that we will be seeing much of Schulp and Accam in the near future. At this point, they are not a part of the team chemistry right now. Let us just pray for the team we have and be thankful that Kwarsey has proven to be a good goalie. Now we just need to score.
Kwabena says:June 01, 2014 05:15 pmWell I hope you prove us all wrong. Adomah is already in so let us hope he does his best. Ghana's success is the priority.
sky says:June 01, 2014 06:36 pmyour time may come jeffrey.keep on improving and u will surely take the position twenty eighteen
FavouredOne says:June 01, 2014 08:27 pmDefinitely only 23 players can make the cut out to Brazil. whatever, whoever was selected is equally a Ghanaian. Lets all rally and support those selected but those eroded, good luck next time. Your time will come.
Kwabena says:June 01, 2014 04:38 pmI do not like the likes of Adomah in the team, but I think five defensive midfielders in the team is in order. Ghana lost AFCON 2012 and 2013 because we used Derek Boateng in defensive midfield when the guy is NOT a defensive midfield. Ghana's successes in 2006 and 2010 are all due to our defensive midfield. So we must go with a solid and stable defensive midfield. The rest of the work will be done by their dynamism because Muntari, K Asamoah and Essien can both switch in to offensive roles. That is the beauty of the team. But we must address the issue of five defenders and going without a left-footed defender. Adomah's role in the team is in question.
Africa4Ghana says:June 01, 2014 03:15 pmA sad day for the black stars.
Ghanaman says:June 01, 2014 04:28 pmBenny you speak sense london massa. The ghana fa knew what they were doing.
Dr edusei says:June 01, 2014 07:59 pmWe need 23 so ado a cannot be cut. Or you think Adomad should be cut instead of accam or schrupp. You cannot trip in the last minute and give a 1-0. Adomah can be good. He should be made to take on defenders and cross balls quickly. The whole Ghana team did not play well. They need to attack and that's the best way to defend.


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With its legal battles over and the purchase of a formal rival safely behind it, the Florida spa manufacturer is hoping to recapture previous dealers and chart a path to growth.
Premium Leisure acquired several molds from Living Water Products of Clearwater, Fla., which closed its doors in March. The acquisition was made through intermediary buyer Sunrise Spas of Grimsby, Ontario, Canada.
The two Florida firms have a long history between them, including litigation over unpaid bills and intellectual property. However, their differences were resolved through a court-ordered mediation shortly after the Living Water shutdown.
"We're hoping that this is under the bridge," said Brian Wiley, president of Premium Leisure in St. Petersburg, Fla. "The new vision is to have good customer support, good quality and get the old Hydro Spas name behind us."
Premium Leisure added four of Living Waters' product lines to its offerings. These include Gulf Coast Spas, Cool Nights Spas and Garden Leisure Luster Series Spas. The company also acquired the Pilates H2O Spas brand, which was previously available at Costco.
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The company hopes to recapture some of the old dealers who sold Living Water products, many of whom were never told the company shut down.
Despite the economic downturn, Premium Leisure is spending the money to plan for future growth, according to Wiley.
"A little balance sheet erosion at a time [like this] is not a bad thing for a company," he said. "The market is going to take some time to fully return, but I don't believe we'll be as affected as long as other people [will]."
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I agree.
I honestly think that the hobby itself has been in such a downward spiral, I don't see it ever fully getting back to the way it was 5 years ago. New sets will intrigue and spark interest, but unless you have BIG HIGHEND and crazy buyers (like we did see with Nat) then the market will continue to be stale.
The hobby is simply fully with flippers, investors and everyone just trying to make money. That will cause prices to drop lower and lower. Plus with overproduction already driving prices downward, I can't see any investments worthwhile in the sportscard industry.
Now there are TONS of scammers, people manipulating the system, deceit and unfriendliness in the hobby. Kid's can barely afford to collect anymore with Panini only putting out $100 boxes. I remember being able to bust Fleer boxes for $30-40 each, Upper Deck boxes for $50-75 each...now Panini garbage is minimum $100/box for JUNK! And look at the quality of the past few year's releases from Panini & Upper Deck ... CRAP!
People have lost the true spirit of the hobby. I look at breaks on youtube or on the break section here ... as soon as someone pulls a nice hit they want to know "HOW MUCH CAN I SELL THIS FOR? WHAT'S THIS WORTH?" Not "WOW WHAT A GREAT PULL, THIS WILL BE IN MY COLLECTION NOW BECAUSE IT'S PERSONAL TO ME!" ... All we hear when people break product and don't get a $800 card is "THIS PRODUCT SUCKS, I COULDN'T *MAKE MY MONEY BACK!*!" ... Everyone is looking at sportscards as a money maker, as a business ... and not as a hobby. And this isn't related to people who are doing it as a business because they *NEED* to ... it's people recklessly spending THOUSANDS each month on box breaks looking to hit the BEST card in the product simply to resell and make a profit.
The only spark we've REALLY seen in the hobby recently was when Nat went on his buying spree and caused inserts to go through the roof. Once he stopped, they've already settled back down. I don't know if we can count on another MULTI millionaire buying cards with no regard to shilling or astronomical prices being paid.
We see sparks with a set like Prizm, but it's all hype. Even most of the people on here who have any are simply buying them to grade and flip ... not actually *COLLECTING* them ... so they'll eventually dump them and hope for profit, and move on to the next set to hype and flip.
The hobby has changed so drastically over the past 5 years ... mostly for the worse. There are more scams than ever. No UD license. Panini products are watered down, overproduced and overpriced. MANY of the BIG collectors of the past 10 years have bailed on the hobby since everything has gotten so ridiculous. I've personally known MANY collectors over the years, who simply don't collect anymore. We don't see many people entering in the hobby solely to collect the cards. I can name about 5 people on Blowout who just simply popped up and started to post a lot recently with ton's of breaks and big card 'pickups' and they're right back on eBay to be sold for a profit, or graded and then back on ebay to flip.
Everything that's happened over the past 5 years has been simply a recipe for disaster.
It won't get better any time soon either...
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USC knows NCAA sanctions prevent it from playing in the 2011 Pacific-12 Conference football championship. But the university also is looking into whether it is eligible for the 2012 contest, which is an ambiguous issue.
The NCAA waived one aspect of its original sanctions when it said USC could play a 13 th regular-season game this year, presumably because the Trojans played their season opener in Hawaii. But the NCAA essentially said the 12-game restriction would apply in 2012.
So does that mean USC cannot play in a 2012 Pac-10 title game?
"We're going to wait until we get through the appeal process to address it," USC athletic director Pat Haden said. "Technically, we may not (be eligible) but we are optimistic we will be able to play (if USC finishes first in the South Division)."
An NCAA spokesperson referred questions regarding the 2012 championship game to USC. Haden asked school officials to investigate the matter further.
Haden said he does not know when the NCAA will hear USC's appeal but it is expected to be in the late winter or early spring.
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Coach Lane Kiffin marveled at the physical condition of Oregon's defense, and no statistic bears it out more than the Ducks' time of possession. Oregon ranks 114 th in the nation in time of possession, with the offense on the field for just 26 minutes, 40 seconds per game because of its ability to score so quickly.
That means the defense is on the field a lot longer than coaches prefer. But Kiffin said it is not an issue because of the Ducks' defensive stamina. It also illustrated the high tempo Oregon's offensive prefers.
"(It is) the biggest challenge, not just in the country but probably in years," Kiffin said. "I can't imagine there's been a bigger challenge, (not just) because of the players but because of the tempo as well. When you combine it, that's why they blow everybody out."
Oregon is No. 1 in the nation in scoring at 55.1 points per game. But the offense is only one reason for the Ducks' success. The defense ranks 12 th in the nation in points allowed (15.9).
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Center Abe Markowitz, who broke his foot the week of the season opener against Hawaii, is expected to be medically cleared this week and available for the Oregon game. Defensive end Wes Horton, who will wear a plate to protect his injured back, also is expected to be available this week after missing the past three games.
GameDay visit
ESPN's College GameDay pre-game show will originate from the Coliseum on Saturday. This is the seventh time GameDay has visited the Coliseum. The other visits were in 2004 (California, Notre Dame), 2005 (UCLA), 2006 (Nebraska, Notre Dame) and 2008 (Ohio State).
Poll position
USC jumped back into The Associated Press Top 25 poll and was ranked 24 th on Sunday.


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Today, in this tenth session, we are going to take
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simple; and the Buddha rebuked Ananda saying that in
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origination or arising means. It is only when we begin to
examine the function and application of dependent
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The media's victory lap for President Obama's flipflop on same-sex marriage is starting to get downright disgraceful.
The cover of Monday's issue of New Yorker magazine features an animated picture of the White House with rainbow columns:
As NewsBusters reported earlier, Newsweek's Monday issue features a picture of Obama with a rainbow halo over his head with the headline "The First Gay President."
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Yeah well - tell that to the criminals and leave Joe Honest out of the equation - it's called prioritizing!!!"It doesn't change the fact the governor doesn't think people should be carrying weapons around,"
<sarcasm>Better still, ask criminals without a carry permit to have a nice big sign on their vehicle windows declaring they are armed </sarcasm>. Those are the guys the cops want to watch for - not the law abiding sane and sensible guy who is just out to cover his butt! I thought most cops were relieved anyways to find a driver has a legit' carry permit.


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Although there's still more than three weeks until the Season 5 premiere of Community, NBC has released a trailer offering a first look at the new status quo at Greendale Community College (under reinstated showrunner Dan Harmon, no less): Namely, that Jeff Winger's post-graduation life has left him "broke, desperate and nearly homeless," and with little choice but to head back to school … as an instructor.
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The Affordable Care Act was signed into action in 2010. It is usually called Obamacare it is the opportunity to get healthcare coverage for you and your family no matter how much or how little money you earn. It also cut out the previous exclusion which prevented anyone with a pre-existing condition from getting insurance. This means that some of the people who needed insurance coverage the most and were not able to get it are now covered and not through exorbitant rates.
There are places you can go to online that will help you find health care coverage in California. You may have to go to their main website and complete the application before you can find out where you can get health insurance for yourself and your family. Once you get your insurance cannot be dropped or canceled if you become ill or have a pre-existing condition. If you cannot afford insurance, there is a program that will subsidize you so that you can qualify for the program. You have a certain time where you can enroll.
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These are hilarious. I wonder whether they make those up.
At least in UK, they build tunnels under the road, for the major frog, toad, hedgehog routes.
And in France (e.g. in Alsace) I have seen bridges over the autoroute N4 (on which they put trees and bushes) for the animals to cross.
Love Leo Laporte and his humor :)
Actually whs, you helped me discover Leo, I didn't know about him that much (saw him once or twice, back in the old Tech TV days)
(watch The Tech Guy every Saturday & Sunday - live.twit.tv )
EDIT: Actually they don't make this up, I watch the show live quite often, and such callers can be expected every once in a while ;)
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I started practising in the field of family law after a career in accounting, followed by a period specialising in taxation law.
I'm experienced across a wide range of family law issues such as relocation, domestic violence, parenting disputes, contact for dads, child support, disputes over property division and entitlements, promises made to family members but not recorded in writing prior to death.
I practise exclusively in the field of family law because I see the value in minimising damage that can be caused to relationships as a result of separation, disagreements between parents, a person taking steps to protect a child or disputes over the will or property of a family member who has died.
I've seen the effect that "Fighting it out in Court" can have, and I prefer to be instrumental in providing, where possible, an alternative to the usual confrontational approach. That's why I've completed additional training as a Collaborative Law practitioner.
It's essential that couples have the opportunity to part with dignity. The last thing separating couples or families in dispute need is to spend their resources "Fighting it out in Court".
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Mia Sollis is the hottest red head you've ever seen. On top of being absolutely stunning, she also has a gorgeous little frame and perky tits. She shows off her cute little white cotton panties giving off an image of sheer innocence. Stripping down she shows off her cute little pussy to the camera
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Redhead Model Mia Sollis Naked On A Patio
Looking very sensual, Mia Sollis feels very relaxed outside on the patio. Even though she is only wearing a t-shirt and panties, she feels overdressed. So she takes off her top and then her panties and enjoys being outside with the sun shining on her perky tits and shaven pussy.
Sexy Mia Poses Nude In A Red Leather Chair
Sitting on her red chair, Mia Sollis looks delicious in her skimpy black bra and thong. She offers a sexy smile as she slowly lowers the bra straps off her shoulders, and once her bra comes off she shyly works on taking down her thong being careful not to expose her shaven pussy until she is ready.
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Mia Sollis is such a stunning red head and she has some of the hottest legs and cutest feet. As she lounges around on the couch slowly stripping out of her clothes you find yourself mesmerized by that nice round ass, those long legs and her painted toes. Then just to tease you she covers her feet with white lace booties.


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It's an interesting place. Here in Wreck Bay there is quite a big town. I'm not quite sure what I was expecting to find but not that!
The wildlife is amazing. We haven't even moved from Wreck Bay yet and we have seen pelicans, turnstones, seals and sea lions. The seals and sea lions are here in their thousands. They are everywhere. We were having a beer in town last night and a sea lion waddled by on the pavement outside the bar!
Back onboard they are very inquisitive and when we first arrived, sailors on another catamaran said we needed to put obstacles in the way so that they couldn't climb on the transoms.
So, we put fenders on both transoms so that they couldn't climb up the steps. We hadn't counted on their ingenuity though because that didn't stop the little buggers. In the middle of the night Graham got up to investigate a strange noise and found a sea lion asleep and snoring on the cockpit table.
He, or she, had come up the steps of the starboard transom waddled across our cabin, knocked the hatch closed, gone across the helm position, down the steps, up onto the cockpit seat and then up on to the table.
When he spotted us he just stretched, sat up, and then waddled around the cockpit seats until he found his way back out and jumped off the back of the boat. He must have spread the word too, because about an hour later there were four seals asleep on the starboard transom.
After their close encounters, Jackie and Graham have set sail to cross the Pacific, heading for Australia. They originally departed La Rochelle in France.
Sail-World Cruising would like to thank www.multihullsolutions.com.au!Multihull_Solutions for this anecdote