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1. Myth: Time on site matters
Some of the most valuable sites to me are the ones I stay on the LEAST amount of time, because I got my information FAST.
2. Myth: Bounce Rates affect my ranking
When I can get the information I am looking for on the page G finds most relevant, voila! No need to go any further! Awesome!
3. Myth: Natural link text is important
The most natural link is either "click here" (Adobe ranks #1 for Acrobat reader) or the name of the company. "Varied" link text is actually unnatural.
4. Myth: Link acquisition rates shouldn't be too fast
News worthy items generate a ton of links quickly. Example: the host of a future Olympics is announced. A site (Olympic site) that is new, had no links, suddenly has a ton overnight.
But one could argue these are from "authoritative" sites and won't raise a flag. Ok, think of all the esoteric niches that have the equivalent of a major announcement happen.
By ignoring or even penalizing these links, Google does the opposite of serving good results. I think Google LIKES seeing sites that get links fast, it is a clue that something is "hot".
5. Myth: Links from topically relevant sites are critical
Search for "financial services" and Adobe appears #5. Why? Because their homepage (PR 10) links to a page with the words "financial services". That's it. And they are beating every single financial services company for that term except Primerica. And don't you think AMEX, VISA, and all the banks get links from "topically" relevant sites? Face it, Google doesn't know topical relevancy, it is too much of a wishy washy thing to comprehend for a computer. It understands PageRank.
6. Myth: PR doesn't matter
See #5 above. Adobe is a great case study on how PR works.
Any idea what <!--googleoff: index--> is referring to in the source?
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And has the young lady been seen since?
Marissa Mayer
Vice President, Search Products & User Experience
Just checked... Yes, that pile of crap is still there.
So it sounds like the bounce rate is something that G would like to measure and take into consideration, however they're having trouble doing so.
How 'bout this as a suggestion: Disregard a bounce rate entirely when a user views then leaves (obvious reasons why were discussed earlier). However, you could weigh the following process -
1) User searches for a specific term (lets say Video Cards)
2) User clicks on a link in the G serp.
3) User spends some time on the page, and then clicks further into the site, by many pages.
In this case, we would disregard the serp result, however... it does tell us that the user liked what he saw and moved further. In other words, the site in question may be a quality site to serve the users for it's 'more general' term (such as 'computer parts').
To me, this makes total sense, but G would have to solve a few 'gaming' problems, such as webmasters buying traffic, etc. Some measurements could be put in place, such as how much readable content is on the page vs. average time for a person to read something... er... whatever.
On the other hand, G wouldn't have to measure ALL the traffic coming in. Maybe just a percentage of random IP's, also weighed against relevant sites in the same search result. Would have to remember that lower search positions will not get as much traffic.
G could take into account 'traffic pattern' as well. A group of users (a sudden 'bubble' on one day), clicking the same links through the site could be interpreted as paid traffic. Or traffic from one specific site, combined with time on site.
Should also take note that G doesn't necessarily have to count 'all' traffic, in terms of bonuses or negatives applied to the site. It could just group some random numbers and say "Is this group worth analyzing?" Yes/No - Move Forward/Toss in trash.
G could grab snap shots of data sets on random days through out the week too. So, someone wanting to game the system would have to buy traffic, every single day, and a considerable amount from various sources, keeping it all 'copesetic' to their current/past traffic values..... i.e. - forcing the webmaster to spend a whole lot of cash and time to acquire traffic.
Oh, and one more thing (getting winded here), G would have to arbitrarily ignore traffic from the same IP that logged into analytics. Right now, I believe you have to physically tell it to do this.
Think I covered everything. Lets hear some ways you could game this type of system.
So many times have I heard the pro's say 'PR is worthless', don't bother with the green pixels. etc.
The case breaker for them is "Look at this serp. That PR 0 site is ranking #1. So the green bar obviously isn't worth anything"
Yet at the same time, if you check their backlinks, they may have some real good ones, from high PR sites. Combine that with the fact that TBPR is nothing more than a 'snapshot' from god-knows-when, and it becomes plainly obvious that the REAL pr for this PR 0 site, is actually much higher.... we just don't know exactly 'how much' higher because of the old data in the little bar.
In effect, seo guru's shoot themselves in the foot with their own example, because they tell you to ignore the green bar because it's old data.
On the discussion of buying links from high pr sites, and whether or not PR is the factor..... I haven't had it completely spelled out before me, but speculation from several different conversations, from several different guru's (if you wanna call 'em that), over the past couple of years, has pointed to the fact that these same guru's buy links for the exact same purpose, under very similar circumstances..... just done in a different fashion than looking at the green bar (though, the green bar is almost a perfect reflection of what their doing anyways, so it's a wash)
In the end, you could honestly say "Ignore the green bar, cause it's not the whole story".
However, it IS very much so a part of it, and probably bigger than they care to admit. Why not admit it?
1) SEO pro's don't wanna tell you that, cause you'll probably end up competing with them at some point in time, if not.. right now. Second, and most important, they aren't going to make money by telling you how it's going to get done. Heck, one VERY highly recognizable seo (and everyone here probably knows him), charges a hellashish amount for their services. The same person is going to use that money to buy links. What's left over, is all theirs.... and I &^#! you not... thats ALL they do.
2) G isn't going to tell you PR is a factor, cause they got their serps to look after. Bad serps = loss of users, then loss of money.
In a nutshell, the people who know (or have years of experience to make a darn good guess), WANT you to ignore this cause they BOTH got something to loose.
Now, granted.... I'm a still a newb at this. But with every serp I've seen, every document I've read, every conversation with 'larger' people, has got me thinking that it's all just smoke and mirrors to help blow people off the path.
I would like to believe in the guru's, as I'd like to have a good quality source to look to when I have serious questions. Yet, I feel like it all really boils down to a 'every man for himself' kind of mentality.
If I search for a simple to answer query like, "Who was the 25th president of the u.s.?" I can probably get the answer without clicking any results.
coincidentally I picked that president number at random and the #1 result is for the wrong president. LOL?
There are many other queries where a click is needed however the result can be found within seconds on the clicked page. When I search for something, click result #1, view the page for 8 seconds and go back to google and search for something else - did I get the result I was looking for in those 8 seconds or did I give up on that query?
If you see a user go beyond that page in the site, it could show that the site 'in general' has something to offer, etc. Therefore, there should be no 'bonus' (for lack of a better term) applied towards that one single page, but possibly to the entire site for whatever it's more broader market niche is.
Keep in mind, I'm not talking about just one single click going deeper/elsewhere into the site. It could be measured by multiple clicks, time on page, random IP's from random days, all weighed against current and previous site usage, and AGAIN weighed against past site structure/design.
In theory, this should be real easy to test out. Just have the math geeks attack the algo, setup on a different data center, and choose a few keywords, both single term phrase and double term phrase. See how the results pan out, and vwala.
Keep in mind that long tail search queries probably won't give you accurate results.
Funny that the query you made turned up the wrong answer tho... hahahha
You may have noticed that the numbering of the Presidents on this site differs slightly from other sources. The reason is because of the two non-consecutive terms that Grover Cleveland served in the late 19th century. When Cleveland began his first term in office he was the 22nd person to hold the office. When Cleveland was defeated by Benjamin Harrison in the next election, Harrison became the 23rd President.
When Cleveland defeated Harrison in the next election and took office for his second term, there still had only been 23 individuals since George Washington to hold the office of President, Cleveland being the 22nd. However, because of Cleveland's non-consecutive terms some sources call him the 22nd and 24th President. This causes the numbering on site.net to differ by one for every President after Cleveland. However, even though George Washington served two terms no one calls him the 1st and 2nd President. The fact that Cleveland's terms were not consecutive is irrelevant.
Because of these facts, site.net describes the current President George W. Bush as the 42nd President of the United States. Many sources refer to him as the 43rd President, even though there have only been 42 individuals that have served as President.
I've wondered lately about bounce rate and ads. If you have ads in the heat map, obviously visitors will click on them and your bounce rate goes up. Is that going to result in a hit to your SERPs?!
I hope Google is smart enough to find better ways than bounce rate to determine SERPs. Give us a flag option...
[ ] This site sucks!
I think that 'bounce rate' for Google Search is a different critter - it is 'did the searcher return from that page and click on a different result?' That's a bounce for search.
Or someone is just price comparing? I think it is very dangerous to jump to conclusions with this kind of metric.
Bad example. Adobe ranks #1 for Acrobat Reader because:...
Crap, I meant to say "ranks #1 for "click here", which is why I said, "The most natural link is either "click here". I can see what that might have thrown off the thread a bit.
Another flimsy example. Look again: that page is optimized for financial services.
I know. Come on, as Schleppguy pointed out, look at all the pages in the index optimized for that term. But it is the PR 10 link that enables this rank. If you don't believe me, optimize a page for this term and see how you compare without a PR 10 link with KW in link text.
Try registering a domain for competitive keywords and building 200 links per month to that website and then get back to me on that on :P
I've been doing this for years. It works. When I throw a lot of money at a domain with high PR links that are topically irrelevant, the site shoots to the top ranks.
In fact, I just created a case study that shows a client their ROI on link spend against their revenue. Basically what we show is that their revenue spikes when we spike the link spend. This site is a new domain that was on page 1 for competitive terms within 90 days of site launch. (FWIW - they were spending about $3k per month on high PR text links, none were "topically relevant").
Re: the topical relevance, Schleppguy pretty much said exactly what I am saying: so are you going to argue Adobe is relevant to all of these topics? No, it's the keyword rich internal links from high PR pages.
If there are any points I am not commenting on that you would like me to, just let me know. There have been a number of comments since the OP and I am doing a quick sweep through.
Yes, PAGERANK is important, but what you paid for was TOOLBAR PAGERANK. And the fact that you can't tell topics, relevancy and trust away is the reason for the need to spend ANY money, let alone ... did I read that right? $3000 a MONTH?
Do you know why you had (have?!) to make them spend a fortune?
Because 80% of those links have NO value! They're devalued!
It's not like topical links score more points, but that irrelevant links score NONE.
And the remaining 20%, well yes, big numbers as they say.
But even if they can spend this much and their ROI is in the plus, this is money down the drain. And those links will disappear as soon as Google finds them, or they don't pay their rent. Congratulations, but this isn't SEO. This pure SEM + a little SEO knowledge from 2003.
And I'm having those links for free?
Don't need as many as your clients do either?
So your link-pounding tactic worked?
To put this in perspective, your SEM tactic is like a Red Army advance in WWII. While SEO is more like the SAS, CIA or a bunch of ninjas. ( little resources, don't leave a trace, no backup, act for the greater good of... *smirk* )
You see, here's the deal.
If you gave me that $3000, once, there wouldn't be any spikes.
Because the rankings would STICK.
Can you see the difference now between your FFA run for links and a real link 'campaign'?
Whoa. You had me for a moment there.
Yes, PR is important. Yes your tactic works.
And no, it's not the best, you can't conclude anything from it, and ... wow... $3000 a month just on links. I'm lost for words.
OK, enough of this, Congratulations, and I don't mean this out of sarcasm.
I'd like to have a consultation service where I can do math with numbers like this to spend on behalf of clients. And also, since your tactic - even if it really is like the Russian Army - worked. They won the war you know.
Still not sure I will concede or agree with your assessment that you can build 200 one way links to a new domain and expect good results.
I will however concur, as unfortunate as it is, that a handful of good paid links in the right places can make or break rankings when done right. Most webmasters probably read way too much into paid links as part of the paid link scare '07.
Even if a website is demoted for visible pagerank, that doesn't mean behind the scenes that it doesn't pass pagerank or ranking value.
$3000 a month just on links. I'm lost for words.
If this seems like a lot to you for links in competitive industries then you must really be oblivious.
Even if a website is demoted for visible pagerank, that doesn't mean behind the scenes that it doesn't pass pagerank or ranking value.100% agree. You really cannot connect the two. TBPR is garbage. You can't discern that much from a PR droppage.
If this seems like a lot to you for links in competitive industries then you must really be oblivious.
No, it's not much on the pre-packed, off the shelf link market, I know.
But... let me be surprised just a little bit, for the OP sounded kinda SEO-test-ish ( saying 'PageRank is the only thing you'll ever need - have proof' ), while spent $3000 on monthly fees buying high PR links at random? Something to pay every month, and something that lasts only as long as it is paid for?
What I said was, that out of $3000, and with proper knowledge, you can do a lasting link campaign. Something that isn't a constant burden.
Something that's an investment, rather than paying back your mortgage interest... Buying links from brokers, or people who sell them openly, and/or buying links with complete disregard of active, well known, working Google filters is... a waste of resources.
Whether it'd be *targeted* bought links, money to oil the gears for a permanent 'reference / citation', pocket money to get a PR article from above, AND/OR it'd be 3 SEOs who you ( okay, *I* ) can instruct on what to do for a month, that money can be spent on something that'll last, instead of a temporary 'boost'... that's almost like using AdWords.
Yes, compared to how much my clients pay for links ( especially 'monthly rent' for which they don't ) $3000 is a lot. I know the prices, but I'd rather learn WHY those links work, and find the ever-cheaper way around. No, not spamming. Bartel, intelligence, research. A better investment.
research... for eg.: If you keep doing SEO by buying links without any other requirement than toolbar PR... and can ONLY deduct that high PR is important... well *cough* sure, but what else was measured in that 'test'? Out of bought links, with no regard for anything else... why, of course. Higher PR is better. But if you buy 10 high PR links without a check for relevancy, crawl rate, trust, titles, whatever, 6 to 8 will have little effect on your site's overall rankings. Understanding the difference will save you a lot of money so that you can spend it better. If you don't know, can't/don't want to tell the difference, YET the few working links can carry the weight, this method may still worth it. But it's by far not the most effective, while I thought SEO was *about* effectiveness. And not every business has that much to spare either.
Sorry, not sure what we're discussing anymore... that PR is all you need? No it's not.
Is it important? Sure... extremely. Leading the top 3 of all parameters used.
Link quality measure for dummies(tm) = PR x relevancy x trust
If either is low ( let alone 0 ), that link is worthless.
PR is 'sugar'. Relevancy is 'vitamins'. Trust is 'no preservatives + valid expiration date'. *smirk*
Yes, PAGERANK is important, but what you paid for was TOOLBAR PAGERANK.
I know that the toolbar is only an approximation. I'd like to think everyone on this thread knows that and we're beyond having this discussion.
Because 80% of those links have NO value! They're devalued!
Um, no, they worked. I don't see how you be so sure.
But even if they can spend this much and their ROI is in the plus, this is money down the drain. And those links will disappear as soon as Google finds them, or they don't pay their rent. Congratulations, but this isn't SEO. This pure SEM + a little SEO knowledge from 2003.
It is not money down the drain if you saw how much money they are making. I am talking millions of dollars every month. Spending $3k is absolutely nothing to them. It might seem a lot to you and me relative to what we keep in our checking accounts.
They could spend $10k per month on links and it'd still be a tiny, tiny expense for the return they are getting. Insofar as "not SEO" – look, I read WebmasterWorld all the time, I know what the seasoned folk here think of as best practices. With some clients, spending on links like these makes more sense than other tactics. Cain IV doesn't believe a site can rank this quickly. Why? Because a lot of people here have never tried spending this kind of money on links. I will give you this – it is ENORMOUSLY important to choose the links wisely. You are right that there are a lot of crap links you can buy. You have to be smart about it for this approach to work.
You see, here's the deal.
If you gave me that $3000, once, there wouldn't be any spikes.
We do get permanent one way links, but they take longer. We have those campaigns going on concurrently, but the point of my OP was that these links buys work, and it is the PR of the pages, not topical relevance, that gets us there.
I can sense that many of you are thinking, "but I can do that for free".
I report on ROI, and I always compare the cost of the SEO to PPC. Typically, I get keywords that would be $3-8 per click for about $.25 in SEO. We far exceed the goals of the campaigns, and the advantage of paid links is we can get them immediately. The amount of time it takes to get free links might be a matter of months. Considering the client makes a few million every month, how much do the free links actually cost (over time)?
Again, we have campaigns running to get the free links for the long haul, but you have to see the large economic picture here to really be in a position to make a judgment call.
And to summarize, recall my OP was about the effect of these "off-topic" links that are from high PR (let's lose the toolbar discussion please) sites. I don't see this as black or white (paid vs. quality free), I am just saying paid links work wonderfully if you choose them well and in the context of client ROI, they can be a necessity.
It's interesting that Google has not been confident of their algorithm's ability to handle the effects that paid links bring into the search results. Their additional use of social engineering and spin around paid links has certainly added to the collection of SEO myths - but at least in this area, the final chapter of the story is not yet written.
We all know that Wikipedia kicks ass for nearly ever search planet on the term.
Please define their topical relevance. What is their "topic" in the eyes of Google?
I've thought about this and have done some looking at Wikipedia's structure.
Many of the links to those minor pages, including stumps, do come from related pages. For example "outdoors" points to "plants" point to "trees" and so on. Wikipedia automatically links from related pages to other related pages. Unfortunately there is no human judgement here so a stump with all kinds of criticism about the page does as well a an excellent Wikipedia entry with extensive information on the topic.
For example "outdoors" points to "plants" point to "trees" and so on.
You're reaching here. You found a few examples of related links, which is inevitable given their site.
For instance, look at the Wikipedia page on Al Franken.
First sentence about his life:
"Franken was born in New York City to Phoebe G. (Kunst), a homemaker and real estate agent"
"New York City" and "real estate agent" are links.
Is Al Franken "topically related" to either of those topics?
Not in the sense that you are looking for. You're looking for "outdoors", "plants", "trees". Relationships are far more complex than that, and outside of this one page on Franken, there is no "topical relationship" between Franken and real estate.
you may as well put up a poster outside the Plex telling them that the links didn't come naturally
I guess you've missed the point of the thread, which is to specifically identify what makes links look "natural". Because I think for every profile you will create, there will be at least one prevalent exception. There are way too many false positives, and it is the lack of this recognition that has me believing most of the "natural" talk about links is a myth.
Also, I cited specific examples where paid links work. If you would like to present a counter point, I expect to see specific examples. Myth is fueled by hot air.
Tedster - I really like the way you contribute to threads. I can see that you resisted some of my ideas at first, but you tend to arrive at an open-minded conclusion (even if you are not 100% on board with my ideas). This approach is how one gets the most out of this board. It's good to have you here.
But I do believe a far greater factor is just how huge the site is and how much linking power that brings. That mixed with the PR they have. But we can't be sure if there is a little extra weight on the related stuff.
Google watches this forum closely and SEO types should beware, seriously.
Possibly, but how would that change the fact that Google apparently has no [current] way to accurately calculate how natural a link is is not.
For instance, look at the Wikipedia page on Al Franken.
First sentence about his life:
"Franken was born in New York City to Phoebe G. (Kunst), a homemaker and real estate agent"
"New York City" and "real estate agent" are links.
Is Al Franken "topically related" to either of those topics?
Again I think using the example of Wikipedia makes no sense here as did the Adobe site, because Wikipedia is an authority and the rules are different for these types of sites. You already alluded to this in your original post by essentially defining that Google treats authority websites differently than most regular websites:
But one could argue these are from "authoritative" sites and won't raise a flag. Ok, think of all the esoteric niches that have the equivalent of a major announcement happen.
Nonetheless, I would concur with much of what you have said - currently, Google does not seem to have a grasp on what is or is not natural, nor does Google have any way to seemingly place correct credit where it is due in terms of links.
The Theme(s) of a website isn't (aren't) limited. They're not exclusive.
They're inclusive.
In short, consider them licences to add a new page on the site...
With a relevant, competitive, popular anchor text...
...and not get filtered out or sent back to the -950 fun land.
The licences are granted based on the incoming links' anchor text, their source, and not based on the current on-page content!
To those who don't get it:
Wikipedia has thematic relevancy to nearly everything.
Not just because its massive content on everything, and not only because their internal navigation ( which is world class ), these alone wouldn't be enough. However, its incoming links support all these themes... which relevancy then gets carried around by the (proper) navigation, to the (proper) content... thus each page is soaking in "relevancy" to many, many *other* things. They have millions of inbounds supporting their wide range of topics, sometimes down to competitive phrases.
Same goes to news sites.
Review sites.
Shopping sites.
eBay, Amazon, and... Adobe.
There are a *lot* of ( high PR ) sites you'll never see appear on the SERPs unless you look for them by their maiden name. Even though they may as well have some pages dedicated to stuff you are looking for. Do you know why?
Those listed above have the same amount of incoming links, but with a wide variety of anchor text, to a wide variety of subpages, supporting many if not all of their themes, even if they're so numerous you've never crossed their ways before. A site with 100.000.000 links saying 'click here' *only* would NOT rank for Financial Services. Yes, a site can have multiple themes if it can support these, or rather, if it can get support from its inbound links' anchor text. And if it can match this up with a navigation that builds a proper relevancy-pyramid, no matter where the links point to within the site, the entire domain will benefit from it. The 'licence' to post related material, use competitive wording isn't revoked when the content disappears. It goes into slumber mode, making the page relevant but not appear on the SERPs unless it really has the stuff on there.
The sites you bought links from may not *look* topically relevant to you ( I wish I could see that case study, with the effects broken down link by link ), and yet very well be carrying latent relevancy to many other things than which were apparently not on-page at the time. On the other hand, the NYT wouldn't have had to publish a Cruise related article to be relevant to a 'Sea Cruise' link. ( are they still selling links? *grin* ) But that doesn't mean relevancy wasn't a factor. It means the requirements have been met at a much higher level already. Looking at the link profile of the one providing the link is routine.
Do you remember when Google told everyone it had fixed the Google bomb exploit? Yeah, they fixed it allright, a site linked to with a lot of stuff that isn't even on their page, won't show up in the SERPs for that phrase. Then the White House website accidentally published both words ( 'miserable' and 'failure' ) on its homepage in a news conference report. And suddenly, they were BACK at #1 for...
Meaning there's an awful lot to a site's (latent) relevancy that the naked eye won't see, unless the SEO digs deeper, and looks at a couple of dozen incoming links to the site. Or a full report, neatly sorted.
But when you deal with news or otherwise generic-themed sites for example, that's not even necessary.
And before you answer, please consider that I'm bringing up the technical details as to *whyyyyy* your pushy link campaign might have worked... because of being so full of *envy*! Or if you had realized already, go easy on me pleeze. *groan*
Wikipedia has thematic relevancy to nearly everything.
Not just because its massive content on everything, and not only because their internal navigation ( which is world class ), these alone wouldn't be enough. However, its incoming links support all these themes... which relevancy then gets carried around by the (proper) navigation, to the (proper) content... thus each page is soaking in "relevancy" to many, many *other* things. They have millions of inbounds supporting their wide range of topics, sometimes down to competitive phrases.
Interesting. But some specific themes in Wikipedia have no inbound links. Am I right in thinking that may not matter because there are enough inbound links to related pages?


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Definition of clandestine
: marked by, held in, or conducted with secrecy : surreptitious a clandestine love affair
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Examples of clandestine in a Sentence
The clandestine meetings, the passing back and forth of messages between Lodge and the plotters, the coaxing along of the generals, all had the emotional lift of a strong amphetamine. —Neil Sheehan, A Bright Shining Lie, 1988
The CIA's great innovation has been to concentrate in peacetime on 'covert action'—that is, the use of clandestine means to challenge policies and regimes in other countries. —Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr., The Cycles of American History, 1986
And Pym was in London for a conference—no, he wasn't, he was attending a three-day course on the latest methods of clandestine communication in a beastly little training house off Smith Square. —John le Carré, A Perfect Spy, 1986
I took a clandestine peek at the price tag on the diamond necklace.
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In 1658, the English poet John Milton wrote of "clandestine Hostility cover'd over with the name of Peace." Three and a half centuries later we use clandestine in much the same way. The word is often used as a synonym of secret and covert, and it is commonly applied to actions that involve secrecy maintained for an evil, illicit, or unauthorized purpose. It comes to us by way of Middle French from Latin clandestinus, which is itself from clam, meaning "secretly."
Origin and Etymology of clandestine
Medieval French or Latin; Medieval French clandestin, from Latin clandestinus, from clam secretly; akin to Latin celare to hide — more at hell
First Known Use: circa 1528
Synonym Discussion of clandestine
CLANDESTINE Defined for English Language Learners
Definition of clandestine for English Language Learners
: done in a private place or way : done secretly
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According to data released by Windows Phone advertising network AdDuplex, Nokia command a huge 83% of the Windows Phone market outside the United States, showing how popular their Lumia devices are.
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Microsoft's in-house Xbox Games app for Windows 8 and Windows RT has been updated today, bringing a few new features as well as the usual bug fixes and general enhancements
IDC tablet analyst Tom Mainelli has some harsh words to say about the Surface Pro, stating that "it's just not there yet" in terms of execution, and that Microsoft should only have one tablet OS
Intel has detailed a few new graphics options that will be available as part of their 4th-generation Core CPUs ('Haswell'), including new Iris and Iris Pro chips that deliver up to 3x the performance
iSuppli is predicting that netbook shipments will completely die off by 2015, while shipments this year will fall 72% to just 3.97m. The rise in popularity of tablets is understandably to blame.
Microsoft has begun rolling out Skype video calls integrated right into your Outlook.com inbox, bringing the highly anticipated feature to the UK right now, and to the US in the coming weeks.
A new rumor has hit the streets, indicating that Samsung will launch an 11-inch Nexus 11 tablet in 2013, potentially at Google I/O 2013, and it will pack a modest spec boost over the Nexus 10
Samsung thought it would be a good idea to launch the Galaxy S4 in India with a stage performance reworking of PSY's 'Gangnam Style'. The result, 'S4 Samsung Style', is pretty cringeworthy
Microsoft has released some more information on their prototype IllumiRoom technology, which can project a game's world onto the area around your TY, and it could be coming to the next Xbox
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Michael Cherry, and analyst for Directions on Microsoft, has slammed Microsoft's strategy for Windows 8.1, saying that new (or returning) features are irrelevant when the apps "suck."
I happen to have received Nokia's lowest-end Windows Phone, the Lumia 520, and I have compiled an unboxing video to deliver some first impressions of the cheap vibrantly red device
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Intel has demoed (again) a new reference design for their upcoming Haswell processors, known as 'North Cape', which brings a 10-hour battery life to a tablet/notebook hybrid
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Bloomberg is claiming that Nokia will unveil the Lumia 928 for Verizon sometime next month, hopefully ending a long run of speculation and rumors surrounding the Lumia 920 variant
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Terry Myerson of the Windows Phone division has discussed Windows Phone at a recent conference, including where it's most successful, how OEMs are going, the possibility of a Surface phone and
Mary Jo Foley of ZDNet is reporting that Microsoft may bring back the familiar Start Button in Windows 8.1 following user feedback, after a source revealed information about plans for the update
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Google has revealed the technical specifications for Glass, showing roughly what sort of hardware we'll find in the units once they start becoming available towards the end of the year.
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Indian Forest
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really well set out. When you arrive and have paid for what you want to
do the first thing to do is to get kitted out in your harness which can
be a bit of a performance as you wrap yourself in something that would
get a bondage enthusiast all hot and bothered. You are then divided up
into groups depending on whether you speak French or English for your
safety briefing before being taken over to the beginner course for some
practice. I found the briefing very easy to follow and delivered in
perfect English however just in case you forget anything all of the
obstacles have some basic visual instructions on them instructing you
on how to tackle the obstacle and how you should clip yourself on to
the wires
graded according to difficulty with age restrictions on them and also
an indication of the time they take. This is important as each session
is two hours long and you are able to judge whether you have enough
time for a course.There is a great deal of variety and the top level
courses are certainly only for those with a lot of experience as you
are very high up and they have a great deal of technical difficulty;
for example you take part in long rope swings into cargo nets that you
have to grab, miss the net and you will be suspended from your harness
with someone blowing one of the emergency whistles attached to all the
trees to summon assistance much to your embarrassment. There are a
number of zip wires which are great fun although I did find stopping a
bit of a problem and the image of my body leaving an impression on a
tree was never far from my mind. Some off the rope crossings are quite
nerve wracking even if you know that you are securely clipped on and
you definitely need to have a head for heights, good balance and body
strength if you tackle any course seen to be suitable for those over
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Just picked up a R32 last week. I'm new to the VW scene. Ive been trolling these forums for the last week and finally decided to register and post.
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Name: Dave
Occupation: Tax Examiner
Location: Hershey,Pennsylvania
Car Name: Nitty
Car: 2008 VW R32 DBP #4582
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Vegetarian magiritsa
Basilikh, 26.09.08
Mushroom soup with pleurotus. A trully delicious soup.
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What we need:
- 1.1 lbs pleurotus mushrooms
- 1/4 cup oil
- 1 cup finely chopped spring onions
- 1/4 cup finely chopped dill
- 1/4 cup finely chopped parsley
- 1 l vegetable stock or hot water
- 1/3 cup short grain white rice
- salt, pepper
- 1 egg white
- 1/4 cup lemon juice
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- Wash the mushrooms and dry them on kitchen paper.
- Cut them with scissors into pieces, heat the oil in a pan and sauté till they are tender and lightly brown.
- Add the onions and sauté for three more minutes.
- Add the dill, parsley, water, salt and pepper. When the soup reaches the boil add the rice.
- Cover with the lid and slowly simmer for 20 minutes until the mushrooms and the rice are tender.
- Using a bowl, beat the egg white slightly, add the lemon juice and continuing beating, add a few spoonfuls of the soup. Pour the egg-lemon sauce into the soup stirring vigorously and then take it off the heat.
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Contemporary light cuisine from Mrs Vefa.
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Barntrup Family Dinner
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After awhile, Andy and I went in to his "office" where his amps and bass were - he plays the bass in a local band. I have been taking guitar lessons, and he had a guitar in the room; unfortunately my skills are not all that great. I think I need more lessons . . . Andy played, I plucked around on the guitar - we did the Top 100 song "Pils Beer" - well, not so much of a top hit but it was fun. After a few minutes, we headed over for dinner!
Claudia's parents live across the town of Barntrup from Melanie and Andy, so it was a short drive. We arrived and I met Claudia's parents - they don't speak too much English and as we will see shortly my German is non-existent, so the best thing about the situation is that I cannot completely make an idiot of myself (at least I think so). Well, I probably could - but I didn't. We came in and we started playing with the kids and their train set that they had received as a birthday present. Later, Claudia arrived with her Grandmother, so I was meeting the whole family. Everyone was extremely nice - although Andy seemed to enjoy all the attention being on me, including asking me to tell the family "all about myself".
We got to eat right at noon and started off with the soup - delicious with meatballs, pasta, egg and a great tasting broth. Then came the knoedel, which is a type of dumpling made with either potato or with bread. Awesome! The dumplings were followed by some venison and red cabbage. Everything was absolutely wonderful and I showed my good manners by getting seconds. Finally we got to dessert, and to my happiness there were two to choose from - a chocolate mousse and Rote Grueze, a red berry and cherry mixture with marscapone cheese that I sampled more than once! (Once again, FA). After dinner, we stuck around for a bit longer, and then Claudia and I had to head back to Paderborn so she could get ready for her handball game.
We got back to Paderborn around 3 or 4, and after doing some laundry we headed to Elsen for Claudia's handball game. Handball is not the handball American's think of - we think of something done in a squash court, but that is not it. European handball is a much faster game played on a court the size of a basketball court, with goals the same size of indoor soccer nets. I know nothing about it, so I will not try to describe it too much - definitely check it out on Google though! It can change from one end to another very quickly, and there are fast breaks like basketball. Very fun! After the game I tried my hand at the manual shift in a parking lot in case I was going to do any driving over the next week and a half. Although I didn't stall or break any necks, I wasn't mistaken for Michael Schumacher. It would be different when going 160km/hour!
Later, we walked into the center of Paderborn and Claudia showed me the sights - old Cathedrals, cobblestone streets . . . wonderful stuff. We had some dinner, walked around some more, and headed home! Tomorrow morning we are off to Mainz!


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Roberto Martinez says he will keep playing his kids in the FA Cup even though Wigan are just 90 minutes away from Wembley.
The Latics will face either Oldham or Everton in the quarter-finals and Martinez insists he will again rest some of his senior players as they battle for Premier League survival.
"As a football club, we need to be brave enough to give the youngsters opportunities as long as they perform well and have the right attitude," said the Wigan boss.
"If we were top four in the league, I would say that making changes was the wrong thing to do.
"But with the position we are in, and the points tally we have got, nobody's position in the league is guaranteed. Also these games are an opportunity for the younger players to stake a claim."
Martinez claims Wigan face a fight to reach Wembley, regardless of who they will face.
"All our games against Everton have been tight, while Oldham Athletic for me have been the team of the competition," he said.
Mark Robins was disappointed to mark his first game in charge of Huddersfield Town with this loss and felt his side made it too easy for Wigan.
"They caused us a lot of problems with their movement and quality," he said.
"But I felt we were the architects of our own downfall because our problem solving was not good enough."