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HIV is evolving rapidly to escape the human immune system, an international study led by Oxford University has shown. The findings, published in Nature, demonstrate the challenge involved in developing a vaccine for HIV that keeps pace with the changing nature of the virus.
'The extent of the global HIV epidemic gives us a unique opportunity to examine in detail the evolutionary struggle being played out in front of us between an important virus and humans,' says lead researcher Professor Philip Goulder of the Peter Medawar Building for Pathogen Research at Oxford University.
'Even in the short time that HIV has been in the human population, it is doing an effective job of evading our best efforts at natural immune control of the virus. This is high-speed evolution that we're seeing in the space of just a couple of decades.'
The study better describes HIV's ability to adapt by spelling out at least 14 different "escape mutations" that help keep the virus alive after it interacts genetically with immunity molecules that normally attack HIV.
"Key genetic regions of HIV introduced into individuals of different ancestry in different places have been evolving to a greater or lesser degree according to inherited factors controlling immune response," said Richard Kaslow, M.D., a professor in the UAB School of Public Health and a co-author of the study. "If HIV adapts differently in genetically distinct hosts, the challenge ahead in vaccine design is formidable," he said.
HIV has already killed 25 million people, and an estimated 33 million are currently infected. However, HIV does not kill all people at the same rate. On average, an adult with HIV will survive for ten years without anti-HIV drugs before developing AIDS. But some people will progress to AIDS within 12 months while others can make effective immune responses to the virus and survive without any anti-HIV therapy for over 20 years.
Genes encoding a key set of molecules in the human immune system called the human leucocyte antigens (HLA) are critically important. HLA determine the progress of many infectious diseases including HIV, and enable the recognition and killing of HIV-infected cells. Humans differ from each other in the exact HLA genes they have, and small differences can make the difference in how long it takes to progress to AIDS.
The research team set out to determine whether HIV is adapting to human immune responses. They looked at HIV genetic sequences in different countries around the world, including the UK, South Africa, Botswana, Australia, Canada, and Japan, wanting to see whether the HIV sequences could be related to the different HLA genes present in the different populations.
The collaboration between Oxford University, the Ragon Institute at Massachusetts General Hospital, Kumamoto University in Japan, the Royal Perth Hospital and Murdoch University in Australia and others analysed the genetic sequences of the HIV virus and human leucocyte antigen (HLA) genes in over 2,800 people.
Mutations that allow HIV to get round immune responses directed by a particular HLA gene were found more frequently in populations with a high prevalence of that HLA gene. This is strong evidence for HIV adaptation to the human immune system at the level of populations.
'Where a favourable HLA gene is present at high levels in a given population, we see high levels of the mutations that enable HIV to resist this particular gene effect,' says author Professor Rodney Phillips, co-director of the James Martin Institute for Emerging Infections at Oxford University. 'The virus is outrunning human variation, you might say.'
'The temptation is to see this as bad news, that these results mean the virus is winning the battle,' says Professor Goulder. 'That's not necessarily the case. It could equally be that as the virus changes, different immune responses come into play and are actually more effective.'
The results are important because it is our most effective immune responses that vaccines against HIV would try and boost to a level that would protect against the virus.
'The implication is that once we have found an effective vaccine, it would need to be changed on a frequent basis to catch up with the evolving virus, much like we do today with the flu vaccine,' explains Professor Goulder.
'In this anniversary year of Darwin's birth, we are accustomed to think of evolution happening over thousands, tens of thousands and even millions of years,' says Professor Goulder. 'But we are seeing changes in HIV, and our immune response to the virus, in just a couple of decades.'
The work was funded by a number of organisations including the Wellcome Trust, the Medical Research Council, the US National Institutes of Health, and Oxford's James Martin 21st Century School.
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Friends Of The NCVMA Foundation supports The Francis Fund
The North Carolina Veterinary Medical Association announced that the Friends of the NCVMA Foundation, the philanthropic arm of the organization, donated $750 to The Francis Fund of Haywood County. This donation supports the fund's work to help sick and injured animals that are abandoned or homeless, as well as the pets of people who are in need of financial assistance. The Francis Fund helps pay for emergency procedures deemed necessary by a veterinarian, including diagnosis, surgery and medicines, and works to provide financial aid to owners whose pets are victims of poisoning, broken bones, wounds or car accidents. The organization's goal is to see the animals restored to as fit a physical condition as possible.
NCVMA Secretary-Treasurer Dr. Kristen Hammett and District 11 representative Dr. Tom Kuhn selected The Francis Fund of Haywood Country for this donation. Fund administrators Leslie Denman, registered veterinary technician, and Joanna Swanson accepted the donation from Dr. Hammett.
"We are pleased to be able to support The Francis Fund Of Haywood County," said Claire Holley, executive director of the NCVMA. "The organization's mission to provide compassionate care to all animals, regardless of the ability of the owner or anyone else to cover the cost, is truly admirable. We are honored to support their numerous charitable efforts."
All financial aid that the Francis Fund provides to care for these animals is given directly to the animal hospital involved in the care of the pet. No money is sent directly to pet owners.
Hammett is the owner of the Animal Hospital of Waynesville.
The NCVMA is a professional organization of veterinarians dedicated to compassionate animal care and quality medicine. For more information, visit http://www.ncvma.org/, or call (800) 446-2862 or (919) 851-5850.

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27 RV Parks near Cape May, New Jersey
West Cape May, New Jersey 0.35 miles SE
Erma, New Jersey 1.23 miles NE
North Cape May, New Jersey 1.78 miles NW
Rio Grande, New Jersey 3.87 miles NE
Villas, New Jersey 3.98 miles N
462 Seashore Rd Cape May, New Jersey 08204 (map) | (609) 886-6035
Sites: 820 | Latest Rate: $40.00 | 42 Reviews
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Jun 2016 - $40.00
Yes, some of the roads and sites are tight to get into. We had a 31' class C with a toad and had no trouble, and we were in the back section. Tip...in that section, the number signs pull out of the ground to make it easier. As far as the kids driving golf carts, no more than anywhere else. That's it for the "bad", if you want to call it that.
The place is awesome. The sites in the back section are huge and wooded. Super clean, staff and seasonals very friendly. They cater to everyone, not just their seasonals. The pictures on their website doesn't do them justice. The beach area is huge. Kayak/canoe rentals are very reasonably priced. Lots to do at the campground, but lots of attractions a few minutes away also. Store has the essentials, but not many souvenirs, which was kind of a disappointment. Nice snack bar and ice cream shop on the beach. Plenty of parking near the pool/beach area, but it was nice renting a golf cart. - Mike Jh
Jun 2016 - $42.00
Way way over priced! Checking in was a "Chinese fire drill". Finally found the site, roads are tight. Sewer was too far away, hose would not reach, site was not level, and lots of mud. They have the "old fashioned" cable box they give you after a big deposit. It would not work with my 12 volt 2017 TV. Many many kids here driving around and around in golf carts. This place is like an insane asylum! If you come, bring lots of alcohol, you'll need it. I can't believe that there are that many people that come here more than once! Masochists? - dewbon1
May 2016 - $46.00
We enjoyed our stay at Beachcomber. We decided to go last minute for a "shake down" trip on our new diesel pusher. We were so happy we chose to stay at Beachcomber. The sites are a bit tricky to back into, if you do not know what your doing. I drive professionally for a living, so it was nothing out of the norm for me. They will help you back in. Only complaint was they charge you refundable security deposits for your gate card as well as the cable box needed. Bathrooms were average. We will certainly stay again. We camped at Beachcomber in a Motorhome. - Chieftain1986
669 Route 9 Cape May, New Jersey 08204 (map) | (609) 884-3567
Sites: 750 | Latest Rate: $46.00 | 18 Reviews
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Jul 2016 - $46.00
Lake Laurie is now Cape May KOA. An older cg, mainly built for small RVs and tenters, now, as a KOA, has built a entire new area for pull-thrus and back-ins for big rigs. Pretty good 50 AMP, not the best, but good. My cheapie plug in volt meter showed low when both roof a/c units were on (mid 90's) so I used propane for my water heater. Not a biggie. The new area sites are large and level. Nice pool, nice lake. Honey wagon is free and will pump your tanks whenever you want. Very friendly staff. Will return. - jerseyjim
Oct 2015 - $19.00
We stayed in a brand new section of the campground. Our site was level and well kept. At the time we were there, there were 3 of us in the whole section. We moved from our assigned site right next to another camper to a site further down, so that there was space around us. We liked it there, and found it very convenient to Cape May. We had an odd encounter. We arrived after the office closed and when we left the next morning, we were asked to sign a waiver for them to use photographed images of us. Really? We were leaving and no one on staff had been around all of our short stay, much less taken our picture. It seemed an unnecessary piece of bureaucracy. - ShoreXplorers
Aug 2015 - $40.00
Lot # 364 is too small for a large RV. We have a 35ft class A. We did not have much room to park our car. Water hook-up is on wrong side. It took two hoses to hook-up. Lot is uneven and floods when it rains. Lot is dirt and not gravel. - Faye J
720 Seashore Rd Cape May, New Jersey 08204 (map) | (877) 817-5697
Sites: 600 | Latest Rate: $44.00 | 57 Reviews
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Oct 2016 - $44.00
Very nice campground for a private facility. Nice paved pad for RV and A very nice paver pad alongside the RV. Site was all gravel but I was able to drive stakes to secure my pop up. Sites were all very shaded for the summer time users. We were near the entrance so it was a little busy traffic wise. Bath house and laundry facilities look very nice but we did not use either. I would definitely return here and would tell people I know to stay here. One last thing, there was a large 5th that arrived late. The park had 2 workers escort the guy and assist him getting into his site which I thought was very cool. - Mitch Witham
Sep 2016 - $44.00
This is a clean park with a lot of shaded sites. The staff was friendly. The bathrooms were clean, BUT you have to pay $ .25 to take a 10 minute shower. Also, the last time I went in, everything was wet - walls, benches, & floors - like they had sprayed the whole place down with a hose. I couldn't hang my dry clothes on any hooks or over the wall or they would get wet. Couldn't sit down or set anything on the bench without getting wet. Also, there is no grass! The whole place is rock or asphalt, which makes it very difficult for dog owners. The camp store is pretty big and has a lot of essentials. When you check in, they give you lots of maps, coupons, etc., with info on things to do. - Capt.Deb
Jul 2016 - $68.00
We stayed here the July 4th weekend with 4 adults and 2 children. Sites are very tight but we were able to get out three slides out. We could not open the slide awing as a tree was in the way. There is adequate shade in most sites but this campground is packed! If you like a lot of activity, kids, etc. then you will be OK here. We enjoyed ourselves. It is about 5 miles from the beach but go early as parking is a challenge. Our fire ring was busted up and we could not use it to cook on. We have to buy a small charcoal grill. Our site had a cement pad with a picnic table which was nice. We would stay here again but ask for a slightly larger site. - Karen Rick
709 U.S. 9 Cape May, New Jersey 08204 (map) | (609) 884-5777
Sites: 100 | Latest Rate: $43.00 | 2 Reviews
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Aug 2004 - $43.00
We were very disappointed. Upon arriving noticed the staff was a tad "moody" and it didn't improve during our 2 week stay. Poison ivy was all over our site though we were told it was the most desirable site in the campground. The camp store was nothing but bare shelves and requesting change or pretty much any service was frowned upon. Few activities for the kids. The pool was okay. They seemed to cater to more seasonal residents. When we drove through the grounds to get to our site it never failed that kids and adults alike would yell for us to slow down even though we were doing the 5 mile per hour limit. Very disappointed in the lack of friendliness and customer service. - Cynthia777
Jul 2004 - $46.00
I've checked out MANY if not most Cape May campgrounds and this one is by far, my favorite. It is true what the previous poster said about a lot of seasonals and I've been yelled at by a cranky old woman in a seasonal for going 5mph, but this is still a great campground for the following reasons. Normally, I don't like the seasonal type places but that's because usually the seasonals seem run down and more like a homeless shelter but this one has beautiful newer mobile homes for the seasonals that I guess you buy or rent there. So it's a big step up from the run-down "lake lurie" seasonal homeless shelter up the road a 1/2 mile. The second reason I like it is the FRIENDLY seasonal families we've met there. Decent people with kids and they use this place as their SUMMER homes NOT their only 'home' they own. Third, they DO have great summer activities for the kids -- the director is a seasonal mom that stays with her family here all summer. We went for "Christmas in July weekend" and the kids made Christmas decoration crafts, played games, went on a hay ride, got a present from SANTA himself! We couldn't ask for a better time! The seasonal activities, being run by a mom that lives there, seem to be way better and more involved than most campgrounds that have a park employee doing the minimal possible activities. Fourth, the entire campground is immacculate and most sites are wooded and fairly private -- maybe slightly small but the abundance of trees and privacy make up for the slightly tight squeeze on some lots. The sites are a lot more private and nicer than those at Holly Shores down the road and, as small as they are, they are still bigger than those at Holly Shores. Fifth, the bathrooms are the cleanest you'll find outside of Fort Wilderness. Okay, they are closed for cleaning sometimes at inconvenient hours, but at least they are cleaned several times a day. Sixth, this campground is just a couple miles to downtown Cape May and the beach. Not a bad ride at all unlike some campgrounds that are 15-plus miles from Cape May but still bill themselves as a "Cape May Campground" like Big Timber Lake. Seventh, the game room, ice cream/snack shop, and gift shop were all clean, fun, and reasonably priced and I found all the employees friendly. Ninth, even when it's full, the winding roads and open spaces never make it seem crowded. One downside to it was the pool seemed to smell and the water was a little 'slimy' -- the kids had fun, it seemed clean but something was wrong with the water when we were there I think. Maybe not enough chlorine? I don't know. Despite that, this is still the only place in Cape May that I will even CONSIDER camping at. - jimsimm
491 US Route 9 South Cape May, New Jersey 08204 (map) | (877) 494-6559
Sites: 300 | Latest Rate: $40.00 | 38 Reviews
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Oct 2015 - $40.00
We stayed in a 31' Class C motorhome over Columbus Day weekend. The sites are VERY narrow and you are VERY close to neighbors. The resort advertised a hayride and other Halloween events. It became an excuse for chaos and madness all weekend, including some nut running around with a chainsaw to scare the "hayride." Roaming bands of unsupervised (loud) kids on skateboards and bikes. They do not enforce campground quiet hours. No management. - James DeMonquay
Sep 2015 - $47.00
It is a tight space but was fine. I was able to get my 39' motorhome in the lot OK but to get to the lot it was very tight. The guy there was very helpful. Was there on Harley weekend which I didn't know but was very quiet still. Lots of tall trees and the acorns were starting to fall. Wish they included WiFi, which was the only down side. - countryshooter
Aug 2015 - $93.00
The service of the workers is excellent, but management is rude and disrespectful to camping guests. They claim to be dog friendly, but that is only if you have a dog that doesn't bark or like to play with other dogs. The owners are very unfriendly and do not act professional. I was a repeat customer who will not be returning. The campsites are very tiny and there is no privacy between campers. While it is convenient, its not worth the money and lack of professionalism. - Kelly M
800 Broadway West Cape May, New Jersey 08204 (map) | (609) 884-2533
Sites: 240 | Latest Rate: $55.00 | 16 Reviews
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May 2017 - $55.00
Campsite was clean and level, a little on the small side no room for a slide outs ,no fire rings just have fire were ever which made me nervous not having it contained, no camp store so don't forget anything - Bill Felix
Sep 2016 - $55.00
It was a great place to stay. One Mile from the beach. Simple just park hookup and tour the city of Cape May. Cable TV worked out great it did rain a few days. Staff was great. Just make sure you do 5mph and stop at the stop signs in the campground. Loved the place. - Road Manager
Jun 2016 - $54.00
We stayed for 3 nights in a quiet, almost level spot. There were two nice playgrounds - one for younger and one for older children. Watch out for the 'fun' teacup. Nice laundry area - four washers, four dryers. No pool and beach was at least a mile from our campsite. Neighbors were nice and not too loud. Campfire wood was available for purchase, but fire rings were absent - just make your fire on the ground wherever, and clean up when you leave. - Forrest Woods
205 NJ-47 Cape May Court House, New Jersey 08210 (map) | (609) 465-4242
Sites: 300 | Latest Rate: $42.00 | 7 Reviews
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Aug 2015 - $42.00
This is a great campground, located very strategically for visiting the best shore points. The staff are very efficient and professional, the facilities are clean and very well kept, the sites are pretty spacious. Our site had 4 small pieces of litter but we had arrived early so I expect they would have been cleaned up otherwise.
Seasonal campers definitely dominate the population, and Canadian campers make up a large portion of the transient population; everyone we met was friendly.
The pools are co-located and had a life guard for both. There were many families and the kids all behaved appropriately with plenty of room for our kids to play.
The roads were a bit narrow, but that meant there is plenty of tree cover.
The green head flies from the nearby marsh could be a real pain, but only affected us one day. Apparently this depends on the wind direction.
The marshlands that surround both of the camp locations have greater bird watching opportunities.
We checked out another local mega-campground; it had more amenities but it was too big for us to be sure we knew where are kids would be. It had a lot of golf carts for permanent sites which is a turn off as well. We saw no carts at Nummy.
The bathrooms at King Nummy were exceptionally clean. They charge 25 cents for a 5 minute shower which was plenty of time for me. A quick rinse shower is in the bath house but you have to hold the handle.
We will go to King Nummy again. - ArEfBee
Jun 2015 - $44.00
This is a great park. Full hookups, clean and not overcrowded ! The location is perfect... you're less than 20 minutes from Cape May, Wildwood Stone Harbor. The park itself is very family oriented with lots of friendly people. The location might lend to biting bugs at times given conditions but this came and went. I really appreciated the clean bathrooms / I don't mind feeding quarters into a shower meter if the bathrooms are clean! - Jim and Ben
Aug 2014 - $44.00
This a great family run campground. From the time you stop in the office to register to the time you leave you can be sure that the owners will be there for your every need or to take care of any problems you may have. From their well stocked store, great swimming pools and clean bath and showers. Weather you are one of the seasonal residents or just there for a week or two rest assure you will have good time. This was the host site for the Annual King Nummy Trail Horseshoe Tour. for 20 years. All of the campers and participants want to Say THANK YOU to all those who helped for your support of this event each year. See you all soon. From the Back Yard Boys - skiphen
419 Route 47 S Green Creek, New Jersey 08219 (map) | (609) 886-7119
Sites: 330 | Latest Rate: $62.00 | 6 Reviews
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Jul 2011 - $62.00
Very nice campground. The sites were large and shaded, on sandy soil. There are lots of seasonal sites but we were not near them so that was nice. The bathhouses are basic, but clean and very large. The pools are wonderful. One for playing games (volleyball) and one for relaxing (has a 1ft kiddie pool at the end). Only thing is that they close the pool at 7pm. Could have been until 9pm at least. The Wi-Fi is located at the game room and is perfect for checking emails and what not. Campground is close to grocerys and Wal-Mart and other stores. Also close to Wildwood beach. However there is a tremendous amount of traffic to reach the beach, we spent a lot of time stopped at red lights! Staff was friendly, park is very secure, with gate cards necessary to enter. Our kids could ride their bikes freely until 8pm as cars do not go fast in the campground, we very much appreciated that. Overall very nice campground, good price, close to beach, wonderful pool. - Mellybelly
Jul 2011 - $62.00
Where to start? When we first booked, I was a little nervous because there have not been any recent reviews. Were my concerns warnted? Half and half. We had friendly service from the moment we booked till the time we left. We did arrive way before check in and we were not charged for that. There are 2 fishing ponds but not easily accessable. They are surrounded by seasonals, tall grass and a lot of bugs due to the stagnet water. There are also 2 pools, one has a 1ft. Kiddie pool which was nice. The hours to the pool were only from 11am - 7pm - didnt make sense since office was open till 10pm. There were no kid activities which we knew when booking. There were a lot of horse flies and the bugs were bad. We were not able to eat outside at all during the week. Like previous reviews, there are a lot of seasonals. We happened to be placed in between several of them. Many will walk right though your site (under your awning) as they feel a sence of ownership due to being a seasonal. We did not use the bathhouses but I did take a quick look inside. Looked clean and primative, nothing fancy. This campground is about 15mins. from the Wildwood beach. If we come to the area again, we will not stay here again unless we are on a very tight budget. They are cheaper than most campgrounds in the area and give the 7th night free. Our site flooded when we got a good rain. site was mostly sand with a little bit of gravel. Site was also well shadded. Just too many seasonals and not being able to use the fishing ponds and limited pool hours were not working for us. - mommabair
Jul 2007 - $45.00
As others have stated, there are FAR too many shanty style seasonal sites. We even saw a few pop-ups with additions and enclosed porches attached (yes, pop-ups). That being said, the store and game room were nice and clean, the pool and grounds in general were clean and well landscaped. If they did something to help clean up the folks that built second homes onto their campers they would have a very nice campground! We will be looking to stay elsewhere next year when we go to Wildwood, this campground was just too much like a trailer park for our tastes. - P.JDiesel
227 W Shell Bay Ave Cape May Court House, New Jersey 08210 (map) | (609) 465-4770
Sites: 300 | Latest Rate: $48.00 | 4 Reviews
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Aug 2013 - $48.00
We make an annual visit to Shellbay Campground and are never disappointed. The bathrooms and showers ($.25/4 min) were clean and uncrowded. The pool and hot tub were clean and refreshing. This is truly a family friendly campground. My children always meet new friends at the pool. They enjoy biking around the paved roads. They also enjoy the activities offered at the campground: Bingo Night, Sunday Church Services, the Cancer Fair (raise money for research), etc. I have been coming every summer for 40+ years and it gets better each year. - dmaerz
Jun 2012 - $50.00
Pool was great, has water slide that kids loved, along with spa pool and kiddie pool. Playground was ok, was nice that they have toys to play in sand with. Also has basketball and tennis courts and bocce ball area. No scheduled activities. Mostly seasonals, but everyone was friendly and quiet. Roads were narrow (should be made one way streets in my opinion). Sites were nice and shady on sand/grass but were oddly positioned. - happytrails76
Aug 2011 - $45.00
Every time we come to Shellbay Campground, we expect to spend a lot of time at the beach and some time at the campground. However, we enjoyed the amenities at Shellbay so much, we spent most of our days there. The large pool is great with a kiddie pool, hot tub, slide, and plenty of space to lay out. The kids enjoy swimming and playing. They also enjoy the playground and just riding their bikes around the campground. A new addition this year is a community bike path 1/4 mile from the campground entrance. This paved path allowed us to ride our bikes 2.8 miles to the Camp May County Zoo. The staff at Shellbay are always friendly and seek to make your stay memorable and pleasant. We have been coming here for years and find the campground better each time we come. - dmaerz
240 W Shell Bay Ave Cape May Court House, New Jersey 08210 (map) | (609) 465-4440
Sites: 260 | Latest Rate: $92.00 | 6 Reviews
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May 2015 - $92.00
My family and I have been camping for over 18 years. We have been to over 10 or more different campgrounds around PA and NJ. I have two major complaints about this place. One is that the bathrooms were very dirty at all different times of the day, the floors were always wet and muddy and trash was all over the place. Second is that the manager walks around at 11:05 p.m. and tells everyone to turn OFF their radios. I have never experienced this at any other campground I have been to. I always thought that "quiet hours" were meant to be considerate and courteous towards other campers. Here, it seems that quiet hours mean time to go to bed. My wife and I were listening to music on our cell phone at a very low volume and the owner insisted that we turn it off altogether. One more thing to mention and think about before camping here is that the campground consisted of almost 80%-90% Mexican/Brazilian campers. There is a large tenting section in the back of the campground which the sites were right on top of each other. It was like "Tent City". To sum it up, the biggest negative of this campground is the manager walking around at 11:00 p.m. and telling people that it was basically time to go to bed.
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Jul 2011 - $60.00
This is one of the worst campgrounds that we have stayed at. The bathrooms were filthy. The sites are small. Very few full hook up sites and only a few water & electric with 30/50 amp. This campground is more for tent's or pop ups. You only could get Wi-Fi in the office or by the pool.This campground is loud and noisy. The store was fairly well stocked with almost everything you would need. That's the only good thing about this park. I definitely would not stay here again. - ty1spooky2
May 2008 - $51.00
Even though the staff was very friendly and accommodating, the campground was terrible. It was noisy all day and night, there is little privacy between campsites, and the children's playground is in need of repair. It was like camping in a parking lot with a few trees spread throughout. We could see every neighbor on every side with no seclusion. At night they had karaoke in the activity center, which was extremely loud and could be heard throughout the entire campground. There was no escape. On our way out of the campground we were held up in a line of traffic as some campers got into a fight with the gate attendant. Needless to say, we wouldn't return to the campground. - smdc


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16 People Who Need To Know That Hostess Is Coming Back
If you haven't heard, Hostess is back and better than ever! But there are a few people on this planet who should be told this wonderful news ASAP before they go crazy (if they haven't already).
1. These people who took preserving their precious treats to a whole new level.
2. These shoppers mobbing for the "last supply."
Caaaaaalm down everyone. There's enough to go around!
3. This person who doesn't realize that there's now enough to share.
4. This guy who's going to extreme lengths to find his Twinkie substitute.
Think we all can agree that cream filled beats cotton any day…
5. This grocery store that still has empty shelves.
Hop to it guys! There are hungry people to feed. Haven't they suffered enough?
6. These people who thought a permanent reminder was the only way for Hostess to be in their lives forever.
Now it can be used as a reminder to "never forget" to buy Twinkies when they go shopping. It's a win-win situation if you think about it.
7. These girls who thought this was their last Hostess supper.
8. This girl so she can sleep at night.
9. And this girl so EVERYONE can sleep at night.
10. Anyone who paid a tad more than market value to get one last taste.
At least the shipping was free.
11. This guy's fashionable tribute that came too soon.
We will never forget because now we don't have to!
12. These people who could only express their sorrow through creative expression.
13. This person who made sure they were set for a few months…
14. …or a year…
15. …or the rest of their lives.
16. This girl who thinks she is seeing a ghost.
Your eyes aren't playing tricks on you. Hostess is back! Go ahead, treat yourself. You've waited long enough.


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The use of social networking, for most people, has become a daily habit or addiction. Initially people used social media primarily outside the workplace to connect with close friends, family and employment opportunities. Today, social media is as pervasive inside the workplace as out and people are tweeting, linking, and connecting -- on company assets, bandwidth, and time.
For the corporate security team, this has opened the door to a wide range of vexing issues from heavy users (like me!) who will access Facebook and Twitter on their mobile devices, regardless of policy. But rather than continually fight the trend, I recommend that organizations resign themselves to the fact that employees are going to use social media at work. The solution is to make sure people use social media appropriately and securely. Here are six tips to make that happen.
While some of these best practices may seem like "no brainers," it's important to remind employees of them because, let's face it, we all forget and become lax at times. It's also important to help employees understand that while we can control what we post, we can't always control what other people will do with the information, images, and links we share.
If companies lay out simple best practices for employees, they can save the organization from becoming a statistic. The best example I can leave you with is a reminder of the financial damage that can be done to financial markets in 140 characters or less. In 2013, the Syrian Electronic Army caused the Dow Jones Industrial Average to drop based on one tweet they posted through a compromised CNN Twitter account.
Empower employees by training them to be aware and secure, and in how to avoid becoming a statistic.John Pirc is a noted security intelligence and cybercrime expert, an author, and a renowned speaker, with more than 15 years of experience across all areas of security. The co-author of two books, <i>Blackhatonomics: An Inside Look at the Economics of ... View Full Bio


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Just 12 seconds into the start of the third quarter, the duo of Lombardi and Judge combined for their third goal of the evening, with Judge beating North Kingstown's Cirillo to get the second half started right. Lombardi tallied another goal off his own a minute later off a pass from sophomore Jake Slye, and the Eagles were rolling with a 8-2 lead. The Skippers' Fallon scored again with just under 10 minutes to play in the quarter, but another North Kingstown penalty led to the fourth goal by Judge and Lombardi, this time Lombardi scoring on the man-advantage.
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SaraBPL Member
@saraLocale: Southwestern Ontario, Canada
I'm in the process of upgrading almost all my gear and I'm ready to make the switch from a sleeping bag to a quilt.
I'll reluctantly swallow high prices to get good quality and long-lasting items that are right the first time.
I currently own a Asolo Cortina Sleeping Bag. It is 2.44lbs and rated to 32F.
I need a regular length quilt that can go slightly below freezing on occasion (23F max) with base layers, hooded down jacket and down socks.
I also have a Neoair XTherm on the way through the mail.
I've narrowed my choices to:
Katabatic Chisos 40F = 14.6oz
Katabatic Chisos 40F with 2 oz. overfill= 16.6oz
Katabatic Palisade 30F = 17.5oz
Katabatic Palisade 30F with 2 oz. overfill = 19.5oz
Zpacks 40F = 11.8oz
Zpacks 30F = 14.4oz
Zpacks 20F = 17.1oz
Or is there another option which would be more suitable?
I know warmth is subjective but I would appreciate any suggestions from the community.Dec 29, 2012 at 11:25 am #1939080
Ike JutkowitzBPL Member
@ikeLocale: Central Michigan
Hi Sara,
For the temperatures you are describing (ie down to low 20s) I would personally go with the Palisade. Whether this choice would suit you depends on how warm or cold you personally sleep. I will say that Katabatic quilts are exquisitely made and have a feature set that is well suited to transitioning to quilts. Hope you enjoy the experience! As a restless sleeper, I'll never go back to bags.Dec 29, 2012 at 11:59 am #1939088
michael leviMember
@m-lLocale: W-Never Eat Soggy (W)affles
zpacks really are the best, the kata bic's have a small down fill weight.Dec 29, 2012 at 1:10 pm #1939105
I have a Blackwelder, which is a tad heavier than what you're looking at, but it served me well at 15,500 feet in Tanzania and also in the snow at around 0F. I think I'd have done fine in the snow if I'd had a warmer pad; every time I rolled onto my side, my hip pushed into the snow and I got a cold spot that woke me up. I now have an XTherm, but I haven't had a chance to try it in the snow yet.
It's well made though, and designed nicely to serve as a quilt. Drafts weren't a problem. I did get the warmer of the two hoods that Katabatic sells, which was also quite comfortable and warm.Dec 29, 2012 at 2:23 pm #1939126
Chris WBPL Member
@simplespiritLocale: .
Keep in mind those ratings are with a typical male in mind. On average, a typical female will sleep 10-12F colder. For what you're looking at (down to 23 F with layers) I'd suggest the Katabatic Alsek at minimum and I think you'd be better served by the Sawatch.
I've been quilting for several years, and tested a few 0 F quilts last winter. The Katabatic Blackwelder was the only true quilt I found to be accurately rated. In fairness, Joe (Zpacks) didn't want to be in the test since he didn't design his bags for such cold temps.
Having said that, I feel like bags make much more sense below about 20 F, so you're right at the line. I'd keep a healthy margin of error if you value a good night's sleep. I've personally spent more than a few nights shivering, grabbing mid-night snacks, doing mid-night exercises, and all together sleeping for $%#^ trying to prove something to myself in a fit of testosterone by pushing a quilt beyond its intended limits.Dec 29, 2012 at 2:34 pm #1939128
Randy MartinBPL Member
@randalmartinLocale: Colorado
I would second the recommendation for Katabatic Gear Alsek or Sawatch. Always better to have a healthy margin for error. I have the Chisos Regular and it is true to its temp rating for me and I am neither hot or cold sleeper.
I also highly recommend Katabatic Gear in general. Simply top of the line design, materials and workmanship.Dec 29, 2012 at 4:43 pm #1939153
Dan DurstonBPL Member
@dandydanLocale: Cascadia
Katabatic Palisade or Alsek. I'd go Palisade and wear my warm clothes to bed on the coldest nights, but if you're a cold sleeper then look at the Alsek.
If you toss and turn a lot, go with the wide version. The regular width quilts aren't that wide, so larger people and acrobatic sleepers prefer the wide ones.Dec 29, 2012 at 5:08 pm #1939155
Joe ClementBPL Member
@skinewmexicoLocale: Southwest
What? No love for Enlightened Equipment w/ overstuff?Dec 29, 2012 at 5:56 pm #1939175
Buck NelsonBPL Member
@colterLocale: Alaska
Having said that, I feel like bags make much more sense below about 20 F, so you're right at the line.
What he said. Like all gear it's subjective but I agree that in the lower temps sleeping bags tend to be more dependably warm for a given weight. For most people. This is not a slam of quilts nor their enthusiasts.Dec 29, 2012 at 6:26 pm #1939184Dec 29, 2012 at 7:04 pm #1939191
I'm about to buy my first quilt as well and have noticed that there's quite a few nuanced details between the aforementioned quilts that warrants attention, at least for myself. Seeing as I'm going the value-for-money route I'm about 90% sure I'll end up with an Enlightened Equipment 20* quilt once the new designs are released come the first bit of January. However, here's some observations that come to mind after pouring over the specs and sites:
– Katabatic looks to have the highest build quality insofar as modern production techniques. Note their curved pattern to the opening on the bottom of the quilt, the piping around the edges, and things like the attachment system. Moreover, they seem (as far as I can tell, and someone correct me if I'm wrong) that they aren't meant to be drawn up completely sealed under you. That bottom opening simply doesn't look like it can be closed completely. They do however make a good case for their fancy attachment system. Also, they don't appear to open flat for blanket/quilt style use, which for me is a drag because that's how I prefer to sleep down to about 50*. They're also the most expensive which is obvious.
– ZPacks looks closest to a traditional sleeping bag, sans hood, given that it zips all the way up. They also claim superior down, best loft, and are customizable. Price is somewhere in the middle, but weight is quite low which is nice. They lack any sort of fancy attachment system for your pad.
– Enlightened Eqiupment opens flat, is coming out with a cord system to attach to the pad, and is far and away the cheapest with your choice of sizes and colors being quite nice. The baffles are obviously an interesting argument either for/against, and the loft is a good bit more substantial than the ZPacks but uses 850 down vs 900 and is therefore a bit heavier. I'm not entirely sold on the color system which looks to consist simply of a drawcord that my hiking companions will use as a garrote wire if I don't stop talking about my Caldera Cone or stuff I read online. They do however fold flat and can be used as a big ol' blanket in warmer temps which I appreciate.
I'm sure there's others but it's interesting to see the different finite details come together between the brands. I suspect a whole other bunch of variables come into play depending on your shelter and pad arrangement. For me inside a doublewall tent on a 3" air pad I'm hopeful that I won't catch my death moving away from a traditional mummy bag. I'm pretty confident the 30% overstuff on an EE 20* will be perfect for me. Guess I'll find out soon enough!Dec 29, 2012 at 7:37 pm #1939201
Steve MeierBPL Member
@smeierLocale: Midwest
I have Montbell bags and Enlightened and Katabatic quilts and a big plus 1 on the Katabatic quilts. You pay for it but the craftsmanship and designs are absolutely fantastic. I also love the Katabatic pad attachment system and am still scratching my head how to best minimize drafts with my Enlightened quilt without doing some kind of modification. I got the Palasaides with 3 oz of overfill and couldn't be happier.Dec 29, 2012 at 7:51 pm #1939204
Dan DurstonBPL Member
@dandydanLocale: Cascadia
I agree that for night temps of 20F and under bags are ideal, but the OP seems to be pretty far away from this being the norm. She is looking to go "slightly below freezing on occasion", with 23F being a coldest case scenario. Sounds like 40-50F is the norm, with 30F occasionally and maybe a rare night in the low 20's. Being from SW Ontario myself, this sounds like reasonable expectations for 3 season use.
If the OP is looking to trim ounces, I'd go with a 30F rated quilt and layer clothes on the odd cold night (and maybe do sit ups). However, since women sleep colder and the OP is new here and likely not gram obsessing, a 20-25F rated quilt would be a enjoyable and safe call.Dec 29, 2012 at 7:57 pm #1939206
Jennifer MitolBPL Member
@jenmitolLocale: In my dreams....
I just made the switch this year to quilts, starting with a cheapo summer quilt from go lite, then after realizing how much I loved it going ahead and getting two EE from Tim. I have a revX 20 deg with overstuff for colder nights, then the uber nice Revelation 30 with overstuff as my main go-to for mountains, spring and fall.
Given the choice, I'd pay the teeny bit extra on the unbelievably soft feel of the pricier Revelation. I know everyone here raves about the X and the price point, but goodness gracious the Revelation was still super cheap and I can't stop hugging it. I nap with it draped over me on the couch. I want one for every temperature range.
I have slept in he 20 + overstuff and a down jacket (with hood on, over a hat) in temps to about 20 and have been just fine except for my pad. The coldness was seeping from under the pad, as I only have a synmat UL 7. Need more Rs…
Anyway, Alex (was it you Alex?) is right about the quilt not going around you completely – once the insulation is under you you crush it and it's worthless. So why bother? The xtherm will be great for bottom insulation, get a quilt wide enough to complement your sleeping style (back, stomach, side, toss n turn, etc) and just tuck it under you. Your feet go in the nice box at the bottom if it's cold (another reason why I like Tim's quilts…when it's warm you can just unzip it and lay it flat and you don't need your feet encased in down) and pull the quilt around you.
I can see in really cold temps (below 20) that I would want my bag, but honestly, here in the Midwest where there isn't all that much fun stuff to do when the temps go down (we don't seem to get snow much anymore…) except shiver, I don't do much camping when it drops into the teens.Dec 29, 2012 at 8:06 pm #1939210
Josh: "The problem with quilts in cold weather is your shoulders get cold, but your jacket will offset that."
That's not necessarily the case. It depends a lot on how the quilt is designed, it's just that a lot of them aren't designed for truly cold weather. I have a Katabatic Blackwelder and an MLD Spirit 30, and I've not had that issue with either of them, because they both have drawcords that allow you to snug them up around your neck quite nicely. Being designed for colder weather, the Blackwelder is quite a bit puffier, so in addition to sealing your body in pretty well it also covers part of your neck.
Alec: " Moreover, they seem (as far as I can tell, and someone correct me if I'm wrong) that they aren't meant to be drawn up completely sealed under you. That bottom opening simply doesn't look like it can be closed completely."
You are correct, it doesn't seal up completely under you. It's not intended to, as you theorize. If you draw it up nice and snug, it will cover what your pad doesn't.
I haven't tried Katabatic's attachment system yet. I've just been using the webbing straps. I run them across the bottom of my pad, so the edges of the quilt wrap around the pad, then I snug up the draft tube around my neck. I can roll around without letting drafts in when I do that.
You're also correct that Katabatic's quilts don't open flat. That's really the only thing I wish were different about it; if it did open all the way I'd probably end up using my Blackwelder a lot more, mainly because it ends up being overkill in moderate conditions.
That said, it's been great when I've camped at high elevations and in snow.
The final decision is still going to be very personal, but some of the quilts out there will work impressively well in some pretty harsh conditions, so they're still worth a look.
That said, I'll probably be investing in a -40 bag for Arctic expeditions sooner or later. :)Dec 29, 2012 at 8:19 pm #1939215Dec 29, 2012 at 8:20 pm #1939216
I'm slightly worried that my switch to a SynMat UL 7 LW (from the ginormous but nicely R valued SynMat 9 DLX) will leave me a tad chilly on the bottom. I was delirious from the cold so can't say for sure, but I think at one point on my last trip where we froze in low 30's weather in 40* rated bags, that I may have felt a bit of chill through the pad. It also could have been that the drop from 75 during the day when I inflated the pad, to low 30's at night, compressed the air, and let me touch the ground momentarily on my side (side sleeper here).
Anyhow, being in texas we only camp 3 season and just go to places currently experiencing those 3 good seasons! Right now it's winter, sure, but this hardly qualifies even if it's dipping into the 30's at night and is 50 during the day. Come summer when it's too hot to camp here we'll head north. Kind of convenient really, but also means I should be okay with a 20* bag unless it's staying in the 60's at night. I'm looking forward to this whole new world of flopping around in my quilt and staying warm without feeling encased like a sausage!Dec 29, 2012 at 9:28 pm #1939226
Randy MartinBPL Member
@randalmartinLocale: Colorado
"Moreover, they seem (as far as I can tell, and someone correct me if I'm wrong) that they aren't meant to be drawn up completely sealed under you. That bottom opening simply doesn't look like it can be closed completely."
Drawing up a quilt where it is completely under you defeats the purpose of the quilt in the first place. You don't want to sleep on your insulation. The Katabatic Gear system attaches to the pad so you can freely turn without having the quilt come off of the pad and release heat. Even if you don't use the attachment system I have found that the elastic binding around the perimeter of the opening on the bottom naturally gathers the quilt around you.Dec 29, 2012 at 9:38 pm #1939228
Right right. I should have pointed out that I understand the idea behind it, and wasn't drawing into question the validity of the approach, but rather simply pointing out the different takes on quilt design between those three oft-mentioned brands. ZPacks, with their zipper obviously believe in putting more insulation under the user, by comparison, and EE is somewhere in the middle between ZPacks and Katabatic.
Should also point out that the idea of encapsulating your sleeping pad by actually wrapping (or rather, tucking in) your quilt around the edges of it is different between the quilt manufacturers as well. With Katabatic the cord system affixes the quilt to the pad but not wrapping it; Zpacks just seems to sit on top like a traditional sleeping bag, and EE could theoretically be used either way depending on the width of your quilt and what cord options you want to use.
Lots of options and different takes. Hence why I said that quilts were rather nuanced in features. Sorry about any possibly confusion arising from my lack of articulation the first time around. :)Dec 29, 2012 at 10:10 pm #1939231Dec 29, 2012 at 10:56 pm #1939237
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firstly just to point out that there are quite a few other options on the market (enlightened equipment, nunatak, jrb …to name a few) although no doubt the companies you mention make fine gear.
In continuation to what was said here (bags vs quilts and how to sleep with a quilt etc) A few notes:
1) temp – these are all male temp ratings. Female ratings are WAY WAY lower (take a look at a comp like Marmot that has EN rating and women specific and you will find out that there is about 10F diff) So if you REALLY intend to sleep @ low 20s you need to really be aware of this
2) take a look at Mammutsleepwell to learn a bit more about EN temp ratings. Although they have their drawbacks it really the only system that can be easily used when comparing diff bags from diff users.
3)westernmoutaineering and featheredfriends are the golden standard in US bags and are known for being "conservative" – which just means they are true to their rating. From what i have garnered here most people think Katabatic and Enlightened are also rated well (see below how to compare).
4)zpacks and nunatak are NOT well rated – just looking at the down weight content will reveal this…most people buy them with overfill….and even Joe (and Tom) in private communications with me have admitted as much. To make it blunt – a healthy "normal" man can very well sleep NAKED in a WM 30F bag @ the rated temp while he will prob need some insulation (eg – socks, base, vest whatnot) to do the same in a zpacks)
This is not to say these are not fine bags (I personally have 2 Nunatak bags) – just need to be aware and fill accordingly
5)without getting everyone wound up again (emotions run high when down is discussed) it is now common wisdom to think that down weight…or rather effective down weight per surface area (since temp loss is proportional to area exposed to cold air) is the dominant factor determining bag warmth – so when comparing I would NOT really heed the mfg temp rating (unless its EN) but look at surface area (hood yes/no, girth and various places etc) and down quality and weight. If you do this trick you will quickly discern the conservative ones (WM, FF, Kata, Enlight) the normal ones (MB, MARMOT, TNF) and the "spartan' ones (zpacks, nunatak)
6)Secondary factors are loft (which basically is just the baffle height at the end of the day unless under filled) and design – eg cinch cords, draft control, efficiency of space inside bag and footbox etc
7)when you think about layering inside the bag – make sure you understand the relative effectiveness of your clothes. Take a look at Richard Nisley's "paradigm" post where you can see the relative CLO/TOG/R values of different arch-typical clothing systems. Unless your down jacket is super puffy it prob isnt much warmer than a 300 wt fleece. and thus will help…but not to the extent of giving you an extra 30F (think about it – you are looking at 40F MENS bags…..some of which are optimistically rated even for men…then you want to take them down to 20F….so in a WOMAN's terms thats like taking a 50F bag down to 10F almost!!!!!!
Take note of the down weight of your jacket…and assume say 50% of it is under you and you will soon realize that it probably wont cut it.
8)If you plan to use the quilt in moderate climes (say above freezing 99%) I would go with a TRUE MENS 20F quilt and assume your clothes will get you to 23~25F at a push
On the other hand if you plan to regularly go down to 20F I would go for a heavier quilt or as a compromise get a really warm jacket. Another thing to think of ($$ aside for a moment) I try to think of layering as using the clothes I already realistically take with me on that specific hike. so in hikes where night temps are 20~30F I would not normally take a full blown down parka…cause day temps are above freezing….so my light weight (eg MB EXLIGHT, PATA micropuff etc) puffy is all I will have. Taking much heavier clothes as a proxy to a warmer bag is less weight efficient. that is not to say of course its not a valid option if you are optimising $$ and cant afford more than one bag
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Thank you for the overwhelming responses!
I've read all the posts three times and will need to take time to process all information.
I would be using the quilt primarily in summer (some spring/fall) around southern Ontario. I'd rent a super warm sleeping bag if I go winter camping.
I also have a number of trips lined up in 2013 including the Grand Canyon in May, Chilkoot Trail in June and Everest Base Camp in October (although I'll be staying in teahouses rather than camping outdoors).
Right away I understand I should go with a wide model and much lower temperature rating than I initially expected.Dec 30, 2012 at 5:23 am #1939264
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Hey there girl!
+ 1 for the Enlightened Equipment EE Rev X overstuff quilt. Get a wider size so you have plenty of room to tuck it around you. I'm a tall lady and a cold sleeper. I have a 10* EE overstuff, and it worked well for me in 5* temps up on a windy mountain with a goretex bivy and down jacket.Dec 30, 2012 at 10:09 am #1939313
Josh: "My thought is if you use the bungee system under your pad why not use a sleeping bag? just my thought."
Webbing straps weigh less than even lightweight fabrics like Pertex Quantum. I'm basically using my bad as the bottom of the sleeping bag and the quilt as the top, and hardly any of the quilt is under me. The result is that I have a 0 degree sleep system that weighs less than a conventional 15 degree sleep system, which made some of the Kilimanjaro climbers I was with a bit envious. :)Dec 30, 2012 at 10:37 am #1939322
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(This is the first of a series of posts by Executive Director, Kirsten Moller as she pedals her way to the US Social Forum. Read on as she shares her journey from Upstate NY to Detroit and the lessons learned along the way.)
Over ten thousand people have registered for the US Social Forum (USSF) in Detroit to look at the ways that the social movement can grow and connect to each other — to learn about and celebrate our successes, to strategize ways we can work together to overcome obstacles and build the "Other World that is not only possible but on its way."
Some of us are already on our way by bike, by caravan, by boat from Texas, Arizona, Florida, California. I'm pedaling to the USSF through BikeIt with 22 wonderful Upstate New Yorkers making our way across New York, up into Canada and then back down to Detroit — learning about each other, our physical abilities, aches and pains and a little bit about the communities we are passing through as we stop to talk and volunteer at community projects in Rochester and Buffalo.
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The Bike-It group is modeling the best of the values I hope to see in that economy. There are 22 of us — ranging in age from 9 to 65 (ish) with differing abilities and needs. We are camping out, sleeping in community centers and libraries and eating delicious vegetarian food cooked in big woks over a propane flame and everyone is giving according to their abilities and taking what they need. Sound familiar? There is patience with those of us who are slow and steady and admiration for the fast and furious. When we arrive at our destination, tents go up, frisbees and novels come out and then dinner with conversations about what we hope to learn at the US Social Forum and many more conversations about our sore muscles and butts. I will spare you.
Bicycling along the Finger Lakes and along the Tow Path of the Erie Canal has been an interesting lesson in history. Did you know that the Canal was only seriously in business for 20 some years, yet it defined the economy for 100 years after that, making New York City the financial powerhouse it has become and the opening up of trade to the Midwest? All this from mules and oxen traipsing up and down the same trail we are biking on. Also, did you know it took 70 years for the Suffragette Movement to gain the vote for women? Now this doesn't even seem like that big of a deal — even Republicans embrace women's right to vote — but 70 years of working for change meant that some women didn't even live to see what they were working for.
Bicycling has really given me the time to reflect on patience and impatience. Watching the world go by and noticing more details, thrilled by the incremental progress, building the structures, compassion and fairness that we want to see in our new world but not losing sight of our destination.
Detroit, here we come!
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Thank you for the check-in Kirsten! Your words are a reminder that our work from day to day does make a difference even if it isn't something we'll see immediately – we can be the change! Safe travels to you and the crew!
What a great blog, Kirsten. Sounds like an amazing trip. Don't spare us the aches and pains details. I'm dying to know how your body is taking the trip. What a feat–for your feet! And a foto would be fantastic.
Can't wait to see you there. I'll be arriving on Friday afternoon, beating you there but coming in a very old-fashioned, earth-unfriendly fashion I hate to admit–plane.
So proud of you and we miss you..cant wait to see you in Detroit!
I am totally impressed. You're super. Thanks for representing for GX at the US Social Forum.
Thank you so much for the blog update Kirsten! I can't wait to hear more updates and feel very inspired by your personal commitment. I also feel so grateful for your leadership and well your peddling finesse! Love you!
Thank you so much for this update Kirsten. I am sitting here in awe of how hard core you and the whole BikeIt crew are!! What an amazing challenge and experience to be a part of!! I am so glad you will be representing us at the US Social Forum and arriving in such an impressive way!! Take care and safe travels!! xoxo
What a great way to deliver yourself to a symbolic city of a country in need of reform. Maybe you'll spin by GM and take a picture.
You are our hero. What a great trip and so fun to read about it on our blog. Way to go. Safe travels!
Kirsten-I love you. I miss you.I hope to visit + hear ,bout USSF before I go back to the classroom in EARLY August.xo Tom


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