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I just got a note from "Bob," who said the "kids in funny shirts" post was tasteless and not very funny... which reminds me of one of my favorite jokes. Maybe you've heard it.
A man dies and finds himself in Hell, and starts sobbing and wailing so loudly that the Devil himself suddenly appears.
"Dude," says the Devil. "What's your problem?"
"What do you think?" the man blurts out between sobs. "I'm in Hell!"
The Devil rolls his eyes. "You know, I'm really tired of Hell getting such a bum rap. This place isn't so bad. Honest. Listen.. do you like golf?"
The guy, through tears: "Yeah. Why?"
"Did you know that every Sunday here in Hell, we have a huge golf tournament? It's true. We have replicas of all the world's greatest courses, and we play golf all day and all night long, every Sunday. You can even get a hole-in-one on every swing if you want. It's a fuckin' blast."
"Really?" says the guy, encouraged for a second, but then he starts crying again. "But it's still Hell."
"Hang on," says the Devil. "Do you like beer?"
"Every Monday here in Hell, we have a 24-hour beer blast. It's insane. We have the world's best beers here, and we all drink till we puke, then we drink some more. It's the wildest party you've ever seen, but nobody has a hangover the next morning."
"Wow," says the guy. Now he's perking up. "What else?"
"You like pizza?" asks the Devil.
"Of course."
"Then you're in luck," says the Devil. "Every Tuesday is Pizza Fest. All the pizza you can eat, all day and all night long, and I'm talking good pizza, too, made by some of the best pizza makers who ever lived. We stuff ourselves silly and have a crazy good time."
Now the guy's really excited. "Ok, ok," he says, "I see what you mean. Maybe Hell's not so bad after all. Tell me more - what about Wednesday night?"
"Dude," says the Devil. "Wednesday's the best. You're gay, right?"
The guy stops smiling. "No."
"Huh? You're not gay?" asks the Devil.
"Oh," says the Devil, sheepishly. "You're not gonna like Wednesday."
Bob... you're not gonna like List Of The Day.
Sunday, February 10, 2008
Craigslist Ad Of The Day
Pink Upholstered Vagina Couch
Date: 2008-01-15, 11:46AM PST
For Sale - beautiful pink "vagina couch" that I made in art school and no longer have space for.
The couch is large: measures 5' 3" long, 3' 3" wide at the middle, and stands 2' 3" tall (and is heavy like a couch). The pics are from my portfolio and are several years old; as a result, the couch has some scuffmarks and stains (!) around the bottom from being moved, but otherwise is in excellent shape.
A professional upholsterer helped me build the couch, so it is also functional and durable as a piece of furniture. The couch must be picked up in Mendocino, a 3-hour drive north of SF. I am asking for $600 and a loving home! Call Willow at [deleted] or reply to posting.
Kids In Funny Shirts
A funny from LOTD cheerleader, Keva. Looks like they're all from T-Shirt Hell, which just happens to be a sponsor ... imagine that. Would you take your kid to the playground in any of these (especially that last one)?
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DJ Baby Courageous; Spinning @ Mashable Social Media Day June 27!
Rene Dellefont aka DJ Baby Courageous is a DJ who started in Gainesville, FL and has moved his way to performing at local venues around Atlanta.
DJ Baby Courageous will be spinning for the second time at Atlanta's Social Media Day 2013.
Mashable is hosting it's fourth annual Social Media Day on June 27! The event was launched in 2010 as a way to recognize the digital revolution happening right before our eyes.
We got the chance to speak with Baby Courageous himself about the upcoming Social Media Day event and this is what he had to say…
What got you into DJing?
I actually used to DJ on a pirate radio station in Gainesville, FL so that's what actually go me into it.
This is your second year playing at the social media event, how was it last year?
It was really a blast, I'm looking forward to it this year! It was at Terminal West last year and the venue was really cool and the event was super fun.
What was the first social media outlet you used?
I'm pretty sure Fotolog was the first social site I used. It was a photo posting community back in the day. After that I joined MySpace (I think I still have an account alive somewhere). Ahhh, the animated profile GIF. One year while visiting Canada a bunch of my friends were talking about this awesome thing called Facebook. It hadn't quite caught on yet stateside and I remember thinking at the time that it was probably just a Canadian thing or a passing fad. I guess that's why I DJ instead of predict the next big thing in social media.
How do you make the content you post on your social media outlets more exciting for followers, friends, etc.?
I generally try to be a smartass. Almost nothing I say is without sarcasm or commentary. I look to Neil Hamburger for inspiration.
What outlet do you use first to announce your shows?
I typically go straight to Facebook to post when I am playing out. It seems to be a little more effective but I am trying to also post about them on Twitter.
In your opinion, what artist/musician/band utilizes social media the best?
I don't follow too many musicians, I mostly follow comedians. For my money I will always get a kick out of Neil Hamburger's Twitter feed. I mean, he's America's "funnyman". Also, Jon Wurster (drummer for Superchunk and all around hilarious guy) has an awesome feed too. I don't know if they use the medium the best, they just have some real funny shit to say.
How does social media help you as a DJ connect with your fans and get your music out there?
I only really use Twitter. I use Facebook more to connect with the location that I play at. It's easy to tag the location and it shows up on the venue's wall so it's easy to get your performances out there and work a little more in my favor than just posting on my own.
How do you connect with a crowd while your DJing?
Deep down I think good music is good music, I usually improvise all my sets and don't know where I'm starting or ending so I tend to let the crowd and the music take me on that journey. So I use the audience as a guide and I try to play what they are familiar with but also some material that they are not familiar with.
Do you have any pre-show rituals?
Not really, if I've had a long day and plan to perform all night, I'll have a Red Bull.
If your interested in attending Mashable's fourth annual Social Media Day on June 27th check out their website and register.
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Berklee Today
Berklee Beat: Berklee's Helping Hands
Waves Makes Gift to Berklee
Berklee is grateful for the generous gift from Waves Ltd., a leading supplier of audio-signal- processing software and plug-ins to enhance the desktop-production tools used by Berklee students. As computers become more powerful, they provide opportunities for musicians to perform new tasks and to work in new and more effective ways. Waves software provides musicians with a multitude of virtual-digital-signal processors that are located in the personal computer and require no additional hardware. Various features of the Waves software will make it easier for Berklee educators to teach signal processing and help students to grasp more readily complex production concepts.
Summer Guitar Sessions
Fender Musical Instruments, a top guitar manufacturer, has helped to give hundreds of high school students the opportunity to attend Berklee's Summer Guitar Sessions and further develop their musical talents. Over the last 11 years, Fender has been a main sponsor of the Summer Guitar Sessions. Their support has helped enrollment in the program to grow to over 400 students this summer.
The Summer Guitar Sessions offers young guitarists an opportunity to improve their performance skills in many musical genres including jazz, blues, rock, folk, or metal. All students participate in a variety of classes such as fretboard harmony and style labs, and also play in ensembles and at jam sessions.
For the past three years, the D'Addario Foundation for the Performing Arts has offered significant scholarship support for the Summer Guitar Sessions as well. The funding is made possible in part with support from J. D'Addario & Company, Inc., world-renowned manufacturer and distributor of musical instrument strings and accessories.
This year's Summer Guitar Sessions will run from August 18 through 23. All classes and ensembles are taught by members of Berklee's internationally acclaimed guitar faculty and guest artist clinicians.
"We are grateful to Fender and D'Addario for providing this outstanding opportunity for guitarists to make significant improvements in their playing and experience the unique musical environment at Berklee," said Rick Peckham, assistant chair of Berklee's Guitar Department. "We share the same commitment with them to provide important programs like the Guitar Summer Sessions to encourage young guitarists to pursue their studies in music and cultivate their talent."
Investment in Future Jazz Musicians
Trustee William Holodnak is very straightforward about his passion for Berklee: it's all about the music. He loves jazz and he wants to use his skills and resources to ensure that America's music continues to thrive. Assistant Vice President Marjorie O'Malley observed, "Bill is a very clear thinker who acts upon his philanthropic interests with the same intensity that he applies to his work. He sees the importance of providing scholarship support for the students who are creating and performing jazz at Berklee. His gift makes it possible for these young musicians to achieve their dreams of obtaining a college education and excelling at the college. We are deeply appreciative of his generosity toward the Charlie Parker Endowed Scholarship fund."
Fishman Sponsors International Folk Festival
Since 1991, Fishman Transducers has been a proud sponsor of the International Folk Festival held each spring in the Berklee Performance Center. The folk festival is one of Berklee's most popular musical events and offers outstanding performances by Berklee's talented international student musicians.
The International Folk Festival held this year on March 28, 2002, represented Berklee's diverse student body and multicultural focus. Berklee has a large percentage of undergraduate students from outside the United States (over 30 percent) representing more than 70 countries. The comcert program featured performers from South America, Japan, Korea, Mexico, Peru, Argentina, Puerto Rico, and many other nations.
"Music is one of the few languages which transcends cultural barriers," said Vice President of Student Affairs Lawrence Bethune. "Our international students not only learn contemporary American music, but each student draws from his or her country's unique musical heritage to enrich the educational experience for the Berklee community. We are grateful to Pam and Larry Fishman for their commitment to supporting music education and promoting international goodwill."
Larry Fishman is a 1974 graduate of Berklee. His company, Fishman Transducers, is one of the foremost manufacturers of acoustic instrument pickup systems and preamps.


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Eco-Driving Reference Library
We arw making a selection of our reference collection available online, gathered together in one place, to aid in public research and education regarding eco-driving initiatives and benefits, as well as related subject materials. This collection will grow in size and functionality as time permits. When available, we will link directly to the source for each document.« Back to Document Library
Draft Regulatory Impact Analysis: Changes to Renewable Fuel Standard Program (EPA-420-D-09-001)EPAStudy.pdf
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Published: April 27, 2009
Source: Environmental Protection Agency
Keywords: renewable fuel standard; rfs; energy independence and security act; eisa; diesel; biofuel; renewable fuel; proposed rule; nprm; regulatory impact analysis; ria; EPA-420-D-09-001; 420d09001
This draft report analyzes the potential impact of the proposed revisions to the National Renewable Fuel Standard (RFS) program which addresses changes to the program as required by the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007. (EPA-420-D-09-001)


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About This Game
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You're a first year EMT in the big city and its up to you and your partner to keep seriously ill patients alive until they get to the ER. Work your way up to Paramedic as you treat critical patients on the scene and in the ambulance. Be vigilant every moment counts.
Release Date: January 2002
T for Teen: Blood, Informational
Genre: Simulation
Publisher: Legacy Interactive
Developer: Legacy Interactive
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- Contains 35 cases, including stab wounds and spousal abuse; uses more than 40 realistic medical tools; time triggers increase the pressure to perform critical procedures fast; three modes of play easy, normal, and expert so the level of challenge fits your knowledge of medicine; access your handheld computer for invaluable information, including tool descriptions, complete treatment protocols, medical glossary, hints, q-and-a, and more; discover clues about the diagnosis by questioning the patient and family.
911 ParamedicPublisher: Legacy InteractiveRelease Date: January 2002MSRP: 19.99 USD
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Concourse rolling power that crams smoothly in the overhead bin. Easy to throw around compact size and lightweight design that helps you dodge checked baggage fees.
The perfect bag for airline travel, the Burton Red Eye Roller features concourse rolling power that crams easily into the overhead bin. The compact size and weight-saving design dodges checked bag fees by helping you fly under the limit, yet the 41 liters of internal space provides enough room for a weekend's supply of clothes, plus essentials and extras. Internal mesh dividers keep categories of clothing separated while lockable zipper pulls add TSA-rated security.
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Search and seizure deemed legal in Rowell case
On Aug. 29 Judge Richard Zimmerman decided that the July 15 search of a kennel and seizure of 133 dogs owned by Deborah Rowell of Pine River was legal.
Zimmerman also ordered that Rowell pay for the costs of care given to the animals from the date of seizure until they are retrieved.
If Rowell does not pay within 10 days, the dogs may be available for adoption, foster care, placement or humane disposal. If she does pay then the animals will be returned. The order also requires that Rowell "comply with all statutory obligations and provide for the veterinary needs of the animals." Rowell could file an appeal, which could result in a stay pending appeal.
This decision was made in a civil case against Rowell and has no impact on the results of the criminal case in which Rowell is being charged with seven misdemeanor and two petty misdemeanor counts relating to animal neglect.


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The simple design of this clear glass cylinder table lamp is accented with top and bottom metal trim in shimmering, warm gold finish. The golden top of the cylinder lifts off, allowing you to fill the glass base with any decorative object of your choosing, such as crystal marbles, shells, or even colored sand. A clean white drum shade and a golden finial top off this distinctive design. By 360 Lighting.
I tried to open the glass base to fill it and was very careful, but the glass immediately cracked. I had not even put anything in it yet. I feel the glass is poor quality if it would break this easily. Unfortunately, I bought 2 matching lamps, so now I can't really use either one.
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Sydney Engagement Session from Skipping Stone PhotographyYou know how I know that this Sydney couple is awesome? Well, besides the fact that they are obviously the sweetest duo ever and spent their entire e-session laughing and smiling? Because they went for milkshakes post-session to wrap up their day.
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Free personalized radio that
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Wale got his first airplay circa 2003-2004 with "Rhyme of the Century," thanks to the help of a local radio DJ who believed in his potential. This landed him in the Unsigned Hype column in Source magazine the following year. In 2006, Wale signed with the local start-up imprint Studio 43, owned by a former VP of Roc-A-Fella Records, and enjoyed a string of hits in the D.C.-Maryland-Virginia area that year. Many of those records sampled from '80s go-go -- a more raw, percussion-driven offshoot of disco originating in D.C. -- like the popular "Dig Dug," a tribute to Ronald "Dig Dug" Dixon of go-go band the Northeast Groovers. Smart use of the Internet and MySpace was also a big factor in his success, as it helped British über-producer and DJ Mark Ronson (known for his work with Amy Winehouse, Christina Aguilera, and Rhymefest) to catch wind of the go-go MC in 2007.
Wale struck a production deal with Ronson's own imprint, Allido, and released the 100 Miles and Running mixtape that summer. Despite not being signed to a major label, he was met with a good deal of positive press, ranging from XXL magazine to The New York Times. After a bidding war that included offers from Epic, Atlantic, and Def Jam, Interscope finally grabbed Wale for its roster in early 2008. The full-length Attention Deficit followed the next year. In 2011, the Ambition album landed, along with its single, "Chain Music." The Gifted, released in 2013, was introduced by the single "Bad," which featured special guest Rihanna on its remix. Its ambition was rewarded with a number one debut on the Billboard 200. Influenced by the TV sitcom Seinfeld, The Album About Nothing landed in 2015 and featured guests Usher and Jeremih, along with Jerry Seinfeld as the album's narrator; it, too, topped the charts. The following year, Wale returned with "My PYT," the first single off his fifth LP, Shine, which also included the Top 40 R&B/hip-hop chart hit "Running Back." ~ Cyril Cordor
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Track List: SHINE
Track List: SHINE (Explicit)
Track List: The Girls On Drugs (Remixes) (Single)
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Track List: The Gifted
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Track List: Bag Of Money (Feat. Rick Ross, Meek Mill & T-Pain) (Single)
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text: Publisher's Description+ From Help for English: An application that will help you learn how to spell out words, how to read letters and numbers. Listen to a native speaker and write down the letters and numbers that you hear. The computer will remember your mistakes and repeat problematic letters more often. An excellent tool for every student of English as a second/foreign language. What's new in this version: Version 1.1 may include unspecified updates, enhancements, or bug fixes. read more +


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There are many ways that sales success is displayed by successful college football coaches. If you want a successful team, you need good players, right? Jeff Beals, author of Selling Saturdays: Blue-Chip Sales Tips from College Football, talked to college football coaches to find out what drives them. He talked with a lot of them. Coaches really have to prove themselves "off the … [Read more...]
Maria Leads Martin Family Cigars
Maria Martin is a woman working in a man's world. Does that sound sexist enough for you? Sorry, I don't mean it to be but let's face it, Maria comes from an "old world" family and is one of the few female tobacco blenders in the world. Let's just say she was born to be in this business. Maria is the CEO of the Martin Family Cigars including lines like the Pedro Martin Ruby, Gold, Corojo, … [Read more...]
Scott Rysdon – The Boy Scout CEO
That's how he's known. Let's just say the leader Scott Rysdon of Sioux Steel Company takes an atypical approach to successfully running his family-owned business. An approach that he jokes could leave people thinking his Board of Directors begins each meeting with a heartfelt "Koom-bay-yah." Rysdon assures me that his company, which provides progressive engineering solutions for grain storage … [Read more...]
Kevin Eichner Gets the Job of His Lifetime
Kevin Eichner is the 21st president of Ottawa University. He has hit the ground running. And, why not? He's been preparing for this job his whole adult life. When Eichner graduated from Ottawa in 1973, he always assumed he would eventually become president of the University. He was ready to attend Michigan to work on an advanced education degree. "A consultant came along and asked what I … [Read more...]
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Cathie Black is Back in Black
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Here are some comments that came in response to Tuesday's The Daily Star news report headlined "Abuls claim innocenceâ€
Habibur Rahman
We do not want any drama. We only want Padma bridge.
Reaz Hassan
Every accused expresses his innocence. It is the task of the prosecution to arrive at the truth. The World Bank is trying to help the one-eyed ACC but finding it difficult to convince it and make it see reason. We the people, on the other hand, are the sacrificial lamb.
There is no single incident in the history of Bangladesh where a minister or a prime minister has taken the responsibility for their mistake or accepted their guilt.
Deep Purple Blue
Leave it to the WB's legal team and they will find out the truth.
Roni Rahman
Does it mean that the government is letting Abul off the hook? Does the government think that if it let the lower officials be caught, WB will stop demanding punishment for the high-ups?
Manzoor Ashraf
Abul is innocent, Suranjit is innocent and everybody who is an Awami Leaguer is also innocent. Only BNP, Jamaat and those who speak against Awami League's wrongdoings are guilty.
There is no fire without smoke!
Misbah Uddin Sumon
We believe in work not in quarrel!
Dr. Nazmul Haq
There is no problem if one declares himself to be innocent. But in Bangladesh corrupt people never serve time in jail whether they are civilian or military bureaucrats, engineers, doctors, lawyers, politicians or businessmen. Few of the above class of people were convicted in the lower court, while they were absolved of their crimes in the higher courts.
Mohammad Nurul Hoque
Abul and innocence! Interesting.
Asad Zaman
Every person under investigation has the right to defend himself. So Abul Hossain and Abul Hasan have also the right to defend themselves. They are presumed to be innocent until proven guilty by the court.
Truth Teller
May be Abul should be recommended for sainthood to the Pope.
Niloufar Sarker
What is wrong if the former communications minister claims himself innocent? A suspect is presumed to be innocent until proven guilty in the court of law. There is an investigation going on by the ACC under the supervision of WB. Character assassination is also a heinous crime and we should refrain from vitriolic comments.
Concerned Expat
I do not want to judge Abul; may be he is guilty or may be not. I think one should think a bit harder on the issue, that is - what if he is telling the truth that he did not take any bribe or commission under the table? Does the WB have any substantive proof with actual bank transaction? Every day we hear that Abul is corrupt or that the finance advisor is corrupt. May be everyone is corrupt, but before we gleefully hang them, we should do utmost to ensure that we actually got the right person rather than the wrong one.


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Talking to the software companies, one quickly gets the sense that they're on edge, that mobile devices represent a profound change that will affect their viability. They realize that failing to get mobile right could at the very least set them back significantly. For some, it could be a matter of survival.
Mobile devices — especially tablets and smart phones — are becoming a must-have tool for outside sales, and the move is happening with amazing speed. Electrical Wholesaling's Top 200 survey this year included a question about whether distributors were using tablet computers, and if not, whether they were considering adding them to the arsenal. Out of all respondents, 58% said they were using tablets, and another 12% were planning to add tablets in the next 12 months (see sidebar below).
Apple introduced the first iPad in April 2010. Think about that. That was 28 months ago. Since that time the way people think of computing, communicating and accessing information has changed radically. Only in the world of mobile devices could it seem like electrical distributors are slow on the uptake when they're adopting a technology that didn't even exist three years ago.
Tablet computers offer several advantages over laptops — they turn on instantly, their navigation is dead simple and intuitive, they feature better graphics, lighter weight, impressive speed in rendering images and video and longer battery life than most laptops. And we're still in the earliest generations of the technology. New tablets are getting even better graphics rendering, more power, better user interfaces. Smart phones are getting larger, clearer displays, faster connections.
Just by themselves, the tablets are a nifty tool, with thousands of applications (apps) available and in development to take advantage of the devices' built-in capabilities, such as onboard global positioning systems (GPS) for navigation, ever-improving still and video cameras, and most of all easy reading of text and graphics. All this makes tablets nearly ideal tools for sales presentations, catalogs and quick access to answers to customer questions.
Salespeople are catching on to these tools and software providers are trying to make it easy. They're hard at work developing ways for tablets to hook back to their enterprise resource planning (ERP) systems, the brains that store and sort all the data electrical distributors use to do business.
This kind of customer demand is forcing ERP providers to make their systems better. It's not so much a matter of software companies playing "me too" in hopes of selling another system, in essence saying, "Hey this technology is neato, be the first on your block with a tablet-enabled whizbang!"
Talking to the software companies, one quickly gets the sense that they're on edge, that mobile devices represent a profound change that will affect their viability. They realize that failing to get mobile right could at the very least set them back significantly. For some, it could be a matter of survival.
The reasons for this don't have as much to do with the devices themselves as with the change they represent. Tablets aren't all that different from the laptops most outside salespeople have been toting around for years. In fact, they do a poorer job of some things — they don't have the on-board memory or power of a laptop (though this is bound to change), their virtual keyboards make anything involving heavy data entry and writing, even something as pedestrian as e-mail, a bit dicey. Surfing a website on a tiny smart-phone screen can be a frustrating ordeal. Yet the spread of tablet use is driving distribution software companies to improve their game. Why would a shift in the technology to a tablet or smart phone format make any difference at all?
It's not so much mobile device technology itself that matters but the systems software providers are having to develop to make critical information available to tablet-wielding warriors in the field. Expectations of information on demand have ramped up dramatically. It's also a demographic effect of the ongoing changing of the guard in the distribution industry. The generations who've grown up with computers and the Internet as a constant presence and the primary way of finding information are now the key young talent distributors are recruiting. And it's not just the youngsters. Seasoned veterans are just as likely today to have embraced and grown comfortable with technology and see it as an indispensible tool in their work as well as their private lives.


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CONTACT: Janine Kava (518) 629-8071
FOR RELEASE: Immediate, June 11, 2007
Hudson Valley Community College will host two Instant Admission Days this month. Prospective students can meet with admissions and financial aid counselors and be admitted to Hudson Valley on the spot for the Fall 2007 semester, which begins Monday, Aug. 27.
The Instant Admission Day schedule is as follows:
8 a.m. to 6 p.m. Wednesday, June 20, in the Guenther Enrollment Services Center on the Hudson Valley Community College campus in Troy. For more information, call the Admissions office at (518) 629-7309.
2 p.m. to 6 p.m. Wednesday, June 27, at the college's Albany Extension Center, 175 Central Ave., Albany. For more information, call the Extension Center at (518) 463-4747.
Interested students should bring their academic records, and those wishing to begin the financial aid process should bring their 2006 tax returns as well. The college also will waive its $30 application fee for those who apply on Instant Admission Day. For more information, visit www.hvcc.edu/instant.
Founded in 1953, Hudson Valley Community College offers more than 70 associate's degree and certificate programs in four schools: Business; Engineering and Industrial Technologies; Health Sciences; and Liberal Arts and Sciences, and workforce and academic preparation programs offered through the Educational Opportunity Center. One of 30 community colleges in the State University of New York system, it has an enrollment of more than 12,000 students, and it is known as a leader in distance learning initiatives and worker retraining. Hudson Valley has more than 60,000 alumni.


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Mr. South glanced over to the driveway that was beside his house as he approached the modest, one story dwelling. Stacy's car was not parked there as it usually was, when he arrived home from work. As a grade school teacher, she had the luxury of slightly shorter hours than he had as a social studies teacher at the high school. Though he wondered a bit, he wasn't overly concerned, she might have been shopping, or perhaps…
He smiled slightly at the thought that she might be off somewhere preparing for the next session of their game. The game that they played every week or two—there was no set date or time. The last time had been a little over a week before, one that had been his turn to orchestrate. Now it was his wife's turn to devise a scenario that would provide an intense sexual experience for the two of them. When the last game had left her with a faint bruise across the front of her thighs as he had pounded his cock into her while she was spread-eagled, face down over a small table in his classroom, she had sworn she would get even in the next session. He had been quite smug with himself at the execution of that episode and could hardly wait to see what she might think of to top it. They each had a very torrid imagination when it came to sex—certainly not the staid lifestyle that many would attribute to schoolteachers.
It was Friday night, so they would have all evening to play, with no thought of grading papers or other preparations for school the next day. It certainly would be a perfect evening for a lengthy fuck session. With that thought in mind, his cock began to respond. 'Patience.' He thought. It shouldn't be all that eager for he and his wife often had more conventional sex on a regular basis. At three years into married life he liked to think that they were still in their honeymoon phase and they were eager to make it last as long as possible. Could they still be thinking of strange ways of having sex by their twentieth wedding anniversary? And what in the world would they not have tried by then? For now though, there was no reason to confine their sex to the bedroom.


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Federal judge: Oklahoma's ban on gay marriage is unconstitutional
posted at 6:41 pm on January 14, 2014 by Allahpundit
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He's a Clinton appointee but he's been sitting on this case for, if you can believe it, nine years. Maybe that's because he was waiting for the Supremes to tackle the issue or maybe he just didn't want to touch it in a state as red as Oklahoma. Either way, the plaintiffs were unhappy. They're happier today.
"The Court holds that Oklahoma's constitutional amendment limiting marriage to opposite-sex couples violates the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution," U.S. District Court Judge Terence Kern wrote.
The ruling will not go into effect immediately, Kern decided, issuing a stay of his decision based on the recent Supreme Court action granting a stay in the case challenging Utah's ban on same-sex couples' marriages…
Human Rights Campaign president Chad Griffin praised the ruling in a statement, saying, "Judge Kern has come to the conclusion that so many have before him – that the fundamental equality of lesbian and gay couples is guaranteed by the United States Constitution. With last year's historic victories at the Supreme Court guiding the way, it is clear that we are on a path to full and equal citizenship for all lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender Americans."
Here's the opinion, which is standard as far as equal-protection analysis of gay marriage by federal judges goes these days. His first task was to decide what to do with SCOTUS's ruling in the Windsor case last year, which found Section 3 of DOMA unconstitutional on equal-protection grounds. Should he find that Oklahoma's traditional marriage law is unconstitutional for the same reason, or should he give the state more deference than the feds got from the Supreme Court with DOMA? Ultimately he decides on both: States, being the historic locus for marriage laws, get more deference, but that deference isn't unlimited. If they want to discriminate against gay couples, they need to show some rational reason for doing so. "Moral disapproval" isn't a rational reason per the Supreme Court's ruling in Lawrence v. Texas, the landmark case from 2003 that declared Texas's anti-sodomy law unconstitutional. The upshot of Lawrence is that you can't legislate morality when you're targeting intimate relationships between consenting adults. You can regulate those relationships if you have some other rational reason for doing so, but the state couldn't produce one here: "Encouraging procreation" doesn't fly if you're not also excluding straight infertile couples from marriage and "encouraging mother/father households" doesn't fly if you can't show how banning gay marriage would actually encourage the formation of those households. As I say, all of this is S.O.P. for federal SSM jurisprudence lately. The only real novelty is that, between this ruling and the ruling in Utah last month, the new legal battlefield over gay marriage lies in America's reddest states. That may be an extra inducement for SCOTUS to deal with this sooner rather than later.
Kern, the Oklahoma judge, seems to think he knows which way that'll go too:
Anyway, you don't want me blathering at you about law and gay marriage, especially when it's another loss for social conservatism. What you want, via Ace, is … devil baby. Cleanse that palate.
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Bmore !
listens2glenn on January 16, 2014 at 11:46 AM
Schadenfreude ?
listens2glenn on January 16, 2014 at 11:50 AM
. . . . . . . . . anyone ?
listens2glenn on January 16, 2014 at 11:51 AM
HellOOOooo . . . . . . . . . . (echo chamber)
listens2glenn on January 16, 2014 at 11:53 AM
Everyone left … that's kinda' "gay."
listens2glenn on January 16, 2014 at 11:54 AM
Hey, I'm still here waiting for JetBoy to reply!
Vanceone on January 16, 2014 at 11:57 AM
JetBoy demanded we provide our reasons for opposing gay marriage. In particular, he stated that I made some great points.
I didn't "demand" anything. I asked. So right from your first sentence, you're full of shiz. Which is usually a good indicator of where the rest of the comment here is going to go.
He also stated he would reply. I've not seen any replies yet to anyone, JetBoy. Just name calling against another poster.
I did. And apologize for not being more prompt. Who did I "name-call"? I did say I wouldn't believe a word ND30 says…so if that amounts to name-calling, I'm guilty.
The arguments advanced included only one "Because the Bible says" argument, which is traditionally the gays standard 'you only hate us because of the Bible!!" Which, hey, means that being gay means you aren't a real Christian if you dismiss the Bible, but whatev.
So you're in favor of a Christian theocracy in the US? And here I thought the first immigrants to Plymouth came here to escape religious persecution. Dang history books. And for the record, my ancestors came to Salem in 1630.
Not to mention, but again…I'm Catholic, so I am familiar with scripture, thanks. And for the gazillionth time, I don't associate with the large Leftist liberal gay groups…I abhor them, and they me. Maybe someday in the near future, you'll finally understand that, but I ain't holding my breath…because that would ruin the narrative you like to perpetuate.
Other reasons included things like mine, where gay rights are fundamentally opposed to freedom of religion–by choice of the gays. Against freedom of speech, freedom to assemble (ask any gay if they think the Boy Scouts should be allowed to keep out gays) and in general, the argument is that if you don't like homosexuality you aren't allowed to be in the public square at all. Can't work, can't employ others, can't sell or buy. Ask a baker if that's the case.
As for the Boy Scouts, they weren't forced by anyone to accept gay scouts…they voted internally on it. So if you have an issue with gay kids in the Scouts, you'll have to contact the BSA about it.
As for the baker and the gay wedding cake…once again, your narrative about me takes precedence over what I've repeatedly said: The gay couple that sued that baker should just move on, get another baker, and be done with it. But alas, once more I won't hold my breath on that actually sinking into your brain anytime soon.
The larger picture here, tho, is…should public businesses be able to deny services to gays or same-sex couples based only on the basis of "gay"? If so, then why not let the same businesses deny blacks or Asians as well? I eagerly await your answer on that.
There are arguments about protecting children (which horrifies JetBoy; why should protecting children from predatory gay men be such a horrifying idea?). Oh yes, the comments to the link provided are full of accounts of other homosexual men adopting and or raping little boys, and their friends are a-ok with it. Russia won't let Same sex couples from the US adopt anymore. Good for Putin!
And here you go again…spouting more bs than Jay Carney. Ever consider working his job for Obama? You'd be a shoe-in.
Honestly, that entire comment is so insanely ridiculous it merits no more attention. And by the way, Putin said "no" to all US adoptions of Russian children. You can't even get that right. And again, it's just a part of your narrative that won't let facts get in the way.
There's an argument from the standpoint of governmental power, and that allowing the government to be defined as the source of rights is wrong.
The government should protect the rights of it's citizens, they are not the source of the rights. I think we may agree on that.
There's an argument about homosexuality being abnormal (which it is) and why are we enabling something that has bad societal effects. Incidentally, we tried an experiment with no fault divorce. Sure as heck, that one has been negative on society. Why should we throw gay "marriage" onto the pile as well?
If you want to babble on about homosexuality being "abnormal", go ahead. Trust me, I don't lose any sleep over it. And how is gay marriage equal to no-fault divorce?
JetBoy, it's been a day. When are you going to address these arguments? Any of the other gay rights supporters going to try? Because none of you have!
Vanceone on January 16, 2014 at 11:17 AM
There you go.
JetBoy on January 16, 2014 at 12:59 PM
Ha! Pwned!
Well done, sir.
alchemist19 on January 16, 2014 at 1:49 PM
Thanks for the reply. I had one mostly written when Hotair reloaded the page and killed my post, and I don't have time now–I'll get to it later.
Short part: JetBoy–you aren't the GLAAD's of the world. What you would do isn't what is happening, is it? I"m not worried about you, I'm worried about GLAAD and company and what they want to do.
Vanceone on January 16, 2014 at 1:52 PM
This is for you.
alchemist19 on January 16, 2014 at 1:49 PM
Thanks for the reply. I had one mostly written when Hotair reloaded the page and killed my post, and I don't have time now–I'll get to it later.
Short part: JetBoy–you aren't the GLAAD's of the world. What you would do isn't what is happening, is it? I"m not worried about you, I'm worried about GLAAD and company and what they want to do.
Vanceone on January 16, 2014 at 1:52 PM
It happens. Nice to see the change of tone, in any event. And no, I don't support GLAAD or the HRCF or any of those groups. Remember, the loud and vocal groups of any demographic are going to get the most attention, but that doesn't meant they represent everyone they claim to.
I've been ban-hammered by more than one online LGBT forum for daring to hold conservative views. And I'm called a "traitor" and "Uncle Tom" and an "idiot" who can't see that I "associate with groups that hate me and want me dead"…exact quote.
I'll check back later.
alchemist only recognizes the receiving end of a pawning. He has plenty of experience with that.
blink on January 16, 2014 at 2:52 PM
Tell me you're not championing the least representative, least responsive, most doctrinaire body of government over the one that is most responsive and elected by the people?
When it comes to safeguarding the rights of all the people, including the minority, I would take the most independent, least beholden to political whims branch of government any day of the week.
What doctrine
If that's the type of simplistic framework you need to place it in, by all means wallow in your doctrinaire and elitist view.
While many types of majorities could theoretically be formed in many different states, including a gay-friendly one (which probably does already exist in places in Massachusetts) they are all still bound to respect the rights of citizens as spelled out in the federal Constitution. As to the final clause of the 14th Amendment, is it your position that a Constitutional right isn't in effect unless there is a separate act of Congress to enforce those rights by law?
Again, I have to cite for you that it was the people of Illinois that would have have been happy to pronounce Dredd Scott free.
but you can't ignore that they restored the discretion of states against an authoritarian interpretation of who were meant to be citizens and who weren't.
I'm unpersuaded by pre-Fourteenth Amendment jurisprudence in discussions of how the Fourteenth Amendment is properly applied.
On top of this it was the representative bodies that adopted and ratified the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments–which you can't even read without ignoring the last section of each of these amendments and making a cogent argument. Why would Congress be empowered to legislate to enforce these amendments if courts were already understood to be the arbiter of whether a state complied with this amendment?!! (Well, it's all moot because the courts have taken that power, right?)
You're saying it again so I'm forced to ask again because I'm so incredulous. Is it your position that the proper redress for state violations of your Fourteenth Amendment rights is through the national legislature? So if your state were to violate your right to equal protection today your only recourse would be an act of Congress? So when an interracial couple challenged Virginia's law against interracial marriage in the 60s and national polling on those types of marriages were way lower than what it is for same-sex marriage today that couple would only be allowed to marry if Congress acted. That's the system you're saying we should have?
There was no express repeal of the 9th and 10th amendments and no statement that these superseded all previous principles which could be said to contrast. I also can't believe that those people fought a war so that we could ratify Taney's elitist version of "substantive due process" immediately afterwards, when it was the right of self-government and a state's right to disdain slavery which was the main call to arms. When the court had acted to counter the "Northern Aggression" of free citizens moving into frontier territories, to bring to a head the conflict between the Missouri Compromise and the citizens of a state being able to determine their laws, when they were adopted as states, threatening the slavery-tolerant balance of powers.
Why would the 10th Amendment have to be repealed? It talks about powers the states or the people have but makes mention of powers the states are prohibited from having by the Constitution. Prior to passage of the 14th Amendment the 10th Amendment meant the states did indeed have the ability to deprive a person of due process and equal protection. When the 14th was passed it specifically took those powers from the states. Pretty straightforward really.
But, I at least can credit you with your championing the doctrine of the interchangeability of the sexes in their roles in society and the equality of orifices, over the discretion of the people–with the express stipulation of toleration of the minority. You sir, are a fine champion of an attenuated, often specious and sophist–sometimes even disingenuous–lines of argument. Thank you, sir, for rightly distrusting me and my motives and setting me in the stands as a spectator to the failed experiment called "self-government". We're finally addressing the inequality and preemption of personal liberty, life and limb based on birthdays with the codified and calcified (or novel induction of) groups by which we chose protected from protectors (and unequally actually–substantively protected) by allowing people who want to consider themselves equal in marriage as equal in marriage, against the bigotry of people who had a difference of opinion on whether it was even a right, let alone "equal".
You're putting words in my mouth. I haven't considered anything about "equality of orifices" because it's not a big deal to me. You're veering into sex acts in a discussion of an issue where sex acts aren't central, and such sex acts have already been found to be legal. The only thing I am perhaps guilty of is reading and understanding the Constitution, which includes the protections of some people to do some things you or I might not personally like.
In addition, the manifesto of preemptive federal government that you proclaim as being secular was originally intended by a number of the federalist framers to be without the only worthwhile part of the Constitution of you true-believers in the Constitution-as-manifesto, the Bill of Rights, until a number of anti-federalists insisted that the stark secularism of the federal government include language similar to the secular-infidel states' constitutions as to guaranteed rights, conceived and ratified by the people of the respective states.
Long live the legal mathematicians in the non-formed function that is the indefinable rights of man!
We can parse quotes from the Framers all day. What matters is what the document they wrote, signed and the states agreed to (and subsequently amended) actually says.
Also, to give you a really black-is-white scenario to chew on. Some of the jurists have recognized that the laws preferring traditional definition of marriage were not drafted with an intent to be discriminatory–but have that net-effect nonetheless. And in your defense, you argue that you intend marriage equality, but do not intend to squelch the speech of dissenters–despite that in numerous cases it has had that effect. And that judges just like those that have argued the equality of marriage, have argued the involuntary service of private entities–thus giving precedent to a convincing case of the effect of denying the right to dissent. Can you live with yourself if you aid and abet the denial of express freedoms ("privileges and immunities") by the moral disapproval of anything construed by an attenuated argument to be "intolerant" of the equality of sexual orientation?
I've said every time it comes up that I oppose any anti-discrimination law on principle. I've excused some of the judges who are compelled to enforce those laws and I've pointed out that if the question of the Constitutionality of those laws is not before a judge then they're powerless to strike them down, but there's a difference between understanding why something is and cheering for it.
Also, from previous discussions with you, I understand that you would like to engage SSM in a way that doesn't cause the same disregard for marriage as Europe has seen. Thus that is not your "intent", but can you say without being doctrinaire and authoritarian that it can't happen here? Is this not isomorphic of "just-the-right-implementors-of-socialism"? At least arguably? Is it really strictly rational to ignore the empirical data that we have on this specie of action?
Yes, because if you frame it right, and convince yourself of the right things, such as name it right, and frame it right. You're on the side of the white-hats, while I'm on the side of the black.
Congratulations, you are unique among the people who can convince themselves of a position that they are inclined to hold.
Axeman on January 16, 2014 at 2:26 AM
The bolded part above is asking me to prove a negative and that, of course, is impossible. Europe might be instructive to look at but I think the far better example would be to examine the states in this country were gay people are already granted access to civil marriage.
Gay couples can get married right now in 16 states, Illinois has civil unions and has passed a gay marriage law but it hasn't gone into effect yet and another four states have some other type of legal partnership like civil unions for same-sex couples. Those 21 states combine to account for about 44% of the US population. In those states heterosexuals are still getting married, babies are still being born and the rain of hellfire and brimstone have been conspicuous by their absence. So if we're trying to discern what will happen in America when gay marriage comes, rather than looking at Europe if we instead look at the nearly half of America where gay marriage or something a lot like it has already happened it looks like the issue is every bit the giant nothingburger that the repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" was.
alchemist19 on January 16, 2014 at 2:57 PM
alchemist only recognizes the receiving end of a pawning. He has plenty of experience with that. – blink on January 16, 2014 at 2:52 PM
And, we are supposed to take your postings seriously, I don't think so. Perhaps you can have a discussion with ND30 and many heterosexual couples you engage in what you refer.
SC.Charlie on January 16, 2014 at 4:26 PM
alchemist only recognizes the receiving end of a pawning. He has plenty of experience with that. – blink on January 16, 2014 at 2:52 PM
And, we are supposed to take your postings seriously, I don't think so. Perhaps you can have a discussion with ND30 and many heterosexual couples who engage in what you refer.
SC.Charlie on January 16, 2014 at 4:29 PM
No ND30 is a lowlife sodomite, who would probably not have a job if there had not been a gay rights movement.
SC.Charlie on January 16, 2014 at 6:32 AM
Projection. There were employed gays before, there are employed gays now. You just have to be worthy of holding a job instead of coasting on your sexual orientation, which is what I think is giving you the most heartburn.
As for the baker and the gay wedding cake…once again, your narrative about me takes precedence over what I've repeatedly said: The gay couple that sued that baker should just move on, get another baker, and be done with it. But alas, once more I won't hold my breath on that actually sinking into your brain anytime soon.
The larger picture here, tho, is…should public businesses be able to deny services to gays or same-sex couples based only on the basis of "gay"? If so, then why not let the same businesses deny blacks or Asians as well? I eagerly await your answer on that.
JetBoy on January 16, 2014 at 12:59 PM
The reason leftists like JetBoy obsess over discrimination is pure projection. They discriminate and would do so unchecked without laws, so they presume everyone else does.
When you throw out decency and morality as gays and lesbians like JetBoy have done, the only thing you have left is laws. Furthermore, laws are only as good as their enforcement, and as we see with gays and lesbians in positions of power protecting child molesters, enforcement is subject to the whims of the enforcer.
northdallasthirty on January 16, 2014 at 10:11 PM
So if we're trying to discern what will happen in America when gay marriage comes, rather than looking at Europe if we instead look at the nearly half of America where gay marriage or something a lot like it has already happened it looks like the issue is every bit the giant nothingburger that the repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" was.
alchemist19 on January 16, 2014 at 2:57 PM
Except for this.
Funny. Gay-sex marriage was supposed to DECREASE STD rates, and here they are shooting up.
Probably because gays and lesbians are, as they admit, opposed to monogamy and instead push and promote promiscuity, teach children to be promiscuous, and so forth.
northdallasthirty on January 16, 2014 at 10:16 PM
Okay, I've got my reply to you. Did you know that in fact we have had a theocracy at one point in the US history—after the Revolution, I mean? Yep, for a few short years, the territory of Deseret (later Utah) was a theocracy.
Funny, that. Everyone's rights, including non-mormons, were fully respected. In fact, the LDS church helped pay for a Catholic cathedral. But then the Federal Government sent an army and things all went to heck.
The boy scout thing I was referring to was their exclusion from public spaces in places like Philly and San Diego (I think). They were kicked out of their rented office space in civic centers and told they couldn't use communal property like parks. Because of the same argument you are using—they could discriminate against gays, but then they didn't have a place in public society. They lost their rights. For instance, in Philadelphia they had had the same office space since gosh, the early 1900s'—like 1908. The city had rented it to them at like a $1 a year or something. They were removed because suddenly they were no longer "acceptable." These kinds of things are what the gay groups want—to punish and exclude people who disagree with them.
Jetboy, you may not be associated with GLAAD and its ilk, but they are out there and they want to destroy Christianity that disagrees with them. They openly admit that gay rights trump the 1st amendment, and they are pushing to make that the law.
Shouldn't those of us under direct threat be allowed to fight back? I don't care that two men think they should be "married," I care that those same two men will sue my faith, try to get me fired for disagreeing with them, and in general force me to convert. Radical gays and radical islamists are the same: they have the attitude "convert or die." I don't know why you have a problem with people fighting back against the gay fascists.
Or do you honestly think that once the Supremes legalize SSM across the country that everyone will say, "Great! We got what we want, let's move on!"? Because all your posts seem to assume that once SSM is there, this issue is done. That's incredibly naive. Gay radicals have openly spoke about their long term goals, and it certainly doesn't stop with SSM. When are we allowed to fight back, JetBoy?
Evidence is how they punish dissenters. Phil Robertson was fired, and only a great outcry got him back. Who's going to protect the guy in San Francisco who gets fired because his boss hears that he goes to a mormon church? It happened during prop 8. Who protects little old ladies from the angry gay mobs assaulting her?
The gay movement is making it impossible to coexist with and still follow your faith. You agree that they should have found a different baker—but they didn't. They searched out one they could sue and drive out of business. It's going to happen more and more.
Do Christians have a right to be in the public square? Do they have a right to run a business? Why should they be forced to choose between their consciences and their ability to make a living? Should the price of a business license be "you agree that your religion is put on the shelf and cannot impact your business?" Increasingly, the gay rights supporters are saying that if you are a devout Christian, you do not belong in America. You cannot speak, as your views have no value and worse, are hate speech. Liberals in general are pushing this argument, and the gay lobby is in lockstep.
Should public businesses be able to deny services to gays? Why not? Does not that sign say "no shirt, no shoes, no service?" Does that mean anything? What's so special about gays that makes me serve them? If a topless lesbian walks into my restaurant, can I kick her out? What if two men start making out? What then? When can I kick them out, JetBoy? Ever? Or is being gay the "I can do whatever I want and you can't stop me!" card? For wedding photographers it now is—they can demand a photographer do whatever they want and how can the photographer refuse? They can't. Gays get privileges now the rest of us don't. What about blacks then? Well, being black isn't a choice (except for Micheal Jackson, of course……).
Let's use your logic. Can the KKK come into a black photographer's shop and demand that she take pictures of a KKK wedding? Under the gay logic, yes, they can. After all, when she opened her shop, she left her morality and revulsion on the shelf, right? She can't judge, and has to offer all the services, right?
What's the difference between the KKK wedding to a black and a gay wedding to a devout Christian? Both are morally repugnant. YOU may not see it the same way, and no doubt you are offended, but it's the truth. And if it's a San Francisco wedding, the straight Christian may very well have a reasonable fear for her safety.
Moving on— I think you are running from the awful truth about homosexual child abuse. I've seen the statistic that 7% of the population commit 40% of all child sexual abuse. That 7% is homosexual men. That's an awfully high number, Jetboy. It's a serious concern. Plus, NAMBLA is, as another poster mentioned, feted in San Francisco and the gay pride parades. There's a long running history of older gay men preying on younger gay men—clear back into the bathhouse days. A goodly chunk of children who grow up to be gay were sexually abused by older men. It's a vicious cycle.
Certainly not all homosexuals are child abusers, but a disturbingly high number, percentage wise, are. And you can't separate them with "pedophilia is totally different than homosexuality!" Gay literature, homosexual history clear back to the Spartans, is intensely focused on "Man-boy love." Heck, even look at the film Airplane! The captain is totally hitting on that 8 year old boy.
I'm not sure how you square your homosexual behavior as normal, and yet believe Catholic doctrine. That's your job—go ahead and convince God that it's okay. Good luck with that.
Let's talk philosophy for a bit. Homosexuality IS wrong, it IS abnormal, and here is one of the many reasons why.
Homosexual behavior is in all shapes, ways, and forms disastrous for the fundamental unit of society: the family. Clearly, two men or two women cannot have a family with children.
Further, SS relationships are build exclusively on the concept of sex. The "Eros", not "Agape" style.
Most things liberals push are detrimental to the family. They focus on selfish behavior, not selfless. Adultery, promiscuity, homosexuality—all direct attacks on the family. All "Mainlined" by liberals.
Another reason it's wrong—it reduces humans to animals who cannot control themselves. I don't care if it IS something you are born with— you can rise above it. The argument about "But you are denying gays the chance to be happy if they can't have sex!" I reply: are nuns or priests happy? Can they be happy? If so, then what's the issue?
Frankly, with how unhealthy sodomy is anyway, no one should be engaged in it.
Vanceone on January 17, 2014 at 12:17 AM
Vanceone on January 17, 2014 at 12:17 AM
Thank you for your post. I hope more people get to read it even if they don't agree with it. It's well thought out and frames the argument perfectly.
Most people confuse tolerance with acceptance. Just because people tolerate certain behaviors doesn't mean we need to accept them. It certainly doesn't mean we need to glorify them in the public square.
Thanks again.
njrob on January 17, 2014 at 1:06 AM
And, we are supposed to take your postings seriously, I don't think so. Perhaps you can have a discussion with ND30 and many heterosexual couples you engage in what you refer.
SC.Charlie on January 16, 2014 at 4:26 PM
Why can't you at least try to offer an explanation? Seriously.
Why do you support rights for your group while simultaneously opposing those SAME rights for others?
blink on January 17, 2014 at 9:59 AM
alchemist only recognizes the receiving end of a pawning. He has plenty of experience with that. –
blink on January 16, 2014 at 2:52 PM
Perhaps you can have a discussion with ND30 and many heterosexual couples who engage in what you refer.
SC.Charlie on January 16, 2014 at 4:29 PM
What the heck are you saying here?
It seems as if you don't know what a pawning is. Ask alchemist, he's the one that used the term first. Just so you know, it's a debating term – not a sexual term.
Maybe you should drop out of this discussion if you aren't mature, smart, or honest enough to have it.
blink on January 17, 2014 at 10:01 AM
When it comes to safeguarding the rights of all the people, including the minority, I would take the most independent, least beholden to political whims branch of government any day of the week.
alchemist19 on January 16, 2014 at 2:57 PM
A dictator is even less beholden to the political whims either, and a dictator probably doesn't base their decisions purely on societal norms.
People like alchemist are a joke. They say that it's ok to discriminate against groups that they hate, while simultaneously saying that it's unconstitutional to discriminate against groups that they like.
Then, idiots like alchemist invent the most stupid reasons for justifying their bigotry. If you need proof of this, then just read through alchemist's lame reasons for allowing discrimination.
blink on January 17, 2014 at 10:06 AM
Hey, Alchemist, some of your points were good. I'm going to concentrate on two parts.
When it comes to safeguarding the rights of all the people [as elaborated and filtered by "the most independent, least beholden to political whims branch of government"], including the minority, I would take the most independent, least beholden to political whims branch of government any day of the week.
alchemist19 on January 16, 2014 at 2:57 PM
Kings had political pressures, sure. But the more independent they were, the less beholden to the the whims of others they were.
I guess I was wrong to call you authoritarian, then. You'll be happy to know that white is again white. There's no way that you could be authoritarian preferring the preemption of the least reachable branch of government available.
You're putting words in my mouth. I haven't considered anything about "equality of orifices" because it's not a big deal to me. You're veering into sex acts in a discussion of an issue where sex acts aren't central
We can adopt an agnostic view of sexual relationships. We can take the view that we don't really know what makes one person one way or another, or we can't even classify with any completeness what they do when they get together. But then, we really don't have any basis to say that those relationships should be recognized on an equal basis with a relatively defined traditional manogamous sexual relationships, do we?
You're argument seems then to be no matter what it is that they are doing if they want to count it equal to marriage, the state violates equal protection–forget it, it's not "protection" now–treatment under law. But isn't a rational application of law really only supposed to treat equal conditions equally?
But I was so mean to call you authoritarian, I was mean about the most authoritarian branch of government in not considering the virtue that they are the least beholden and most independent. Those are good things!
And how boorish of me to actually consider the details of what makes–up, you know, the details of authoritarianism or details the sexual relationships. Life's a lot easier without details that would argue toward and authoritarian. What I need to do is construct a fully rational argument–that also has to be recognized by you as rational–and just avoid any details that might be mean or needlessly vulgar.
That's all. Maybe I can get Sisyphus to help.
and such sex acts have already been found to be legal.
But, I'm told, legality is not endorsement. Do you think that the law should suffer the invalidity of my applying the word "authoritarian" to you? I mean I've used words that are manifestly untrue, right? Should the law suffer my untruth? Well, the courts have affirmed the right to lie about medals of honor–of course, lying about your being authoritarian can probably be slander, so maybe I shouldn't be able to say something. And talk about orifices is just gross and sounds like hate speech, so many I shouldn't be allowed to say those things either.
So we'll have to adopt a flat plane of rights, unfiltered through the winds and temperaments of the courts, where for some unforeseen reason, the state should have to suffer my slander and mention of orifices, how does that make that speech equal to your ever so legal championing of rights?
However, if the state had to act on speech, I would prefer that low quality speech, such as my own would be curtailed first. And why is that, because it's legality never made it equal of the same consideration. It is a different situation, thus equal protection might not apply in the same way. For example, if you had slandered somebody, simply taking their preference for the least responsive–er beholden branch of government, that is as actionable as my slandering you.
So, being that legality is not endorsement, and legality says nothing about comparability, your mention of the legality doesn't address equality in the slightest.
Axeman on January 17, 2014 at 11:30 AM
The Constitution protects good speech and bad speech. It doesn't pronounce them worthy of equal treatment. Thus, there is a clear reasonable line between protection and treatment. If all you can cite is that two things are treated unequally, by an the most general use of the word and legal sense of the word "protection", it doesn't comprise a lack of protection except in the hot-house-flower world of court precedence and the way they are custom to use words.
However, equal treatment never becomes what was ratified under the 14th amendment, it remains the Court's construance, at least in the mind of any person who can keep two concepts separate. Also, although courts have addresses this relating to groups, it never becomes the language. The ratified language is always of "persons". Thus it might be a current argument of the court that the way that they have had the most success in ensuring this in in considering disparate treatment among groups. But it doesn't make it any the less the letter of the amendment that persons will receive equal protection.
And the more you argue that equal protection is some sense treatment by law, then the more you argue that persons unequally treated by law, suffer the same lack of "protection" under that law. And your emphasis on groups might in fact create customs of resolution which obscure the same delivery to persons that you do to groups.
So then how does law select between the circumstances of one individual and another? It has to discriminate conditions which bear a sufficient to consider another case of treatment. If we can simply declare by different outcome unequal "protection" (straining the word for the person in the same sense of a group).
It seems that the legal reduction of people to members of groups is actually the supremacy of the naturalistic-reductionistic-and-yes-de-facto-American liberalconcept of the relationship between government and man.
As long as we go around refusing to define rights in totality that we might not stamp on a single gossamer strand, do I not have the right not to be treated reductionistically by my government?
Now, before you trivialize this idea. I have an undefined, unreduced relationship to my government from which it has a role of defending whatever I am against whatever those people outside the country are and whatever those beings found guilty of crimes inside this country are. I have a bag of unreduced, undefined rights by which the tension of that relationship and the balance of powers is established. My rights and my circumstances is my representation to the adjudicating court. Thus if it can't reduce my rights, how can it reduce the holder of those rights to a simple group membership? If I am to be reduced independent from my rights, in what pocket, in the natural world am I keeping my rights. What is the attachment from the world of reducible things to the gossamer strands of irreducible rights? Thus central to my irreducible rights is my right not to be reduced.
Reduction of the individual to group membership is a denial of a central right of man, should he be said to have any. Thus a court only considering my jeopardy as a member of a group is imperfectly considering my rights, but successfully delivering according to the American Progressive vision. My rights under law are then no more than a species of my rights where they intersect with the progressive vision. Now, how much does it alarm you that the indefinable cloud of rights has some instances in the complement of the court's recognition, that I might be denied the recognition of some rights?
You might say "unimportant". Or you might say "impractical to address every pre-identified right I may or may not have". But should they exist in that intersection of the compliment of you are showing no concern about the rights I have that are out of view.
The Court is an imperfect system, you might defend. It does the best. Yes, there are some winners and some losers but as long as we have lettered and wise men to navigate these waters, the damage is not that bad.
So what makes gays insufferable as losers if their penalty is to not receive benefits equal to some other cluster of situations where we don't have a defined function of comparison that do? Why would you insist that their "right" (to benefits) is a heinous denial of rights if sometimes we have to suffer losers to receive a lessoning of benefits?
Again the instance of a "loser" in the court's meting out of operating room for one's rights against another's means that one persons rights have been diminished below what they should have been.
How is the presence of a loser in an imperfect system less heinous than if we simply imperfectly apply equality in a known case and create a gap?
In addition, what is usually cited is the main "right" that is being violated is the right to be treated equally. And then we get another layer of protection, because in not treating them equally and respecting that "right", they are unfairly deprived of a right to receive the same benefits–or be treated equally.
The argument has largely been circular, and to restrain that argument I need to come up with not only a fully rational answer, but one that you will accept as fully rational.
What we need is less of this: When you dismissed my "rights" above, I can take it that you DISMISSED MY RIGHTS!!!, I can then equate it to the fullness of conditions where we could say those words. As well, you can take a case where I may not have recognized everything you recognize as rights–or the court recognizes as rights, and you have the option of making that that I'm DISMISSING RIGHTS!!! and then attribute to me a gradient of the worst things that can imply.
You want the law to embody good will. I get that. From where would the law get good will?
Axeman on January 17, 2014 at 3:00 PM
From where would the law get good will?
Axeman on January 17, 2014 at 3:00 PM
alchemist fully supports using the law to force his moral standards on everyone.
blink on January 18, 2014 at 9:33 AM
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The disgraced former detective Roger Rogerson was seriously ill in hospital last night after suffering a stroke on the eve of his sentencing on charges of lying to the Police Integrity Commission, his solicitor said.
Rogerson, 63, was rushed to St Vincent's Hospital after collapsing in front of his legal team in Martin Place as they finalised legal issues ahead of the sentencing hearing. He had a CT scan and it appeared he had had a stroke on his right side.
His wife, Anne Melocco, rushed to the hospital but was said to be too upset to comment. She and her husband had pleaded guilty in the District Court to lying to the commission in 1999 and were due to be sentenced today.
Paul Kenny, Rogerson's solicitor, said his client had told him he was "feeling a bit light-headed".
"Next thing he slipped across to the right and I had to grab him by the right shoulder to stop him falling. I asked whether he was OK. He said he was not feeling too good."
When Rogerson kept falling to the side and then appeared to be unconscious, Mr Kenny phoned for an ambulance.
A friend, the former AFL footballer Mark Jackson, said he understood Rogerson was in a critical condition.
"It's a major thing he's gotta defend, and I think he's getting older and a lot of the stress [has been tough on him] but I don't think this'll kill him."