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An early morning earthquake rocked Wellington and jolted police Inspector Chris Scahill awake on the second floor of his apartment building yesterday.
Workers and shoppers are returning to Wellington yesterday after many businesses closed their doors in the wake of Sunday's violent 6.5 magnitude earthquake.
Mr Scahill, former Mid/Far North police area commander, now working in central Wellington said it was the first time he had experienced a decent earthquake since moving to the city nearly two years ago.
Aftershocks continued to rumble overnight with the strongest measuring magnitude 5, striking about 1.30am yesterday. It was that one that shook Mr Scahill from his sleep.
"I woke up and the whole bed was swaying back and forth and you could hear the walls moving.
"In the apartment you can see the hairline cracks in the wall and the paint has cracked off. There were flakes of paint all over the floor."
He said it was a scary experience and there were certainly some nervous people in Wellington at the moment.
"The question in everyone's mind now is 'What's next?' Has it set the scene for the same size quake or bigger on one of these fault lines?"
He missed "the big one" as he was back in Kerikeri visiting his family last weekend.
He said he returned to his flat to find bookshelves tipped over and cracks in the walls.
He was back at work yesterday in his role as Acting National Manager of Operations.
The chance of an aftershock measuring up to 6 in magnitude in the week following the quake remained at 19 per cent.
Of the nearly 2500 buildings inspected in the Wellington area, engineers discovered about 35 with superficial damage.
Whangarei entertainer Luke Bird was on plane returning to Wellington from Whangarei when the big one hit on Sunday.
He had been in Auckland airport where things "were manic" and everyone trying to get bags off planes that were delayed because of fears Wellington Airport runway was damaged.
Mr Bird's plane eventually got to Wellington where he described the atmosphere as "eerie".
Some buildings were cordoned off in CBD but he said:"It doesn't really feel like we're in a quake zone in immediate danger but some people are tense and get very nervous when they feel the tremors."
He is working temporarily at IRD and yesterday staff were reassured the building was safe. GNS Science seismologist Ken Gledhill said the quake was a "one-in-several-decades event" and the many aftershocks were normal.


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Richard Beck has a great post up today explaining how we can believe that, ultimately, everyone will be reconciled to God and join him in Heaven without casting God as the Great Brainwasher in the Sky, merrily crushing our ability to resist. I'm excerpting the post below, but I recommend reading the whole thing. For a lot of Christians salvation is basically the process of posing an ultimatum to the human will: Choose Christ and live or deny Christ and go to hell. Basically, evangelism is a t … [Read more...]
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The post on judgement and culpability has (terrifyingly) crested 300 comments (but I probably deserved that). I'll be reading through them and making notes tomorrow, but I won't be responding until later in the week, since there's a highly relevant lecture tomorrow night that I'd like to hear first. And DC area folks may want in.The Dominican House of Studies is holding a series of talks on the Four Last Things for the four Sundays of Advent. (Advent is an anticipatory season, but, in ad … [Read more...]
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Chris Hallquist has uploaded another chapter of his book for comment/questions. I don't have anything very helpful to say, since I mostly agree with him and Dennett. "I feel strongly about this, and your questions make me sad" is a really bad approach to an argument about truth claims. I disagree with some of the stuff about the use of mockery , but that's more a content disagreement than a "I think religious readers will misunderstand X as currently outlined." (Plus I've written on this befo … [Read more...]
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My name is Khiry Washington. I have been a student here for the past two semesters, and I am majoring in Human Services. I came here hoping to be heard in a way that I haven't before throughout my entire academic career, both in and out of the classroom. I have been heard by my professors and peers inside the classroom, but within the larger college framework, I feel I haven't had the opportunities for this goal to be achieved.
Currently, most students at Beacon who have problems with the current rules or policies don't know who to talk to or the correct procedure for changing the regulations. I feel that if Beacon College had a strong working Student Government Association (SGA) these students would have a necessary voice. I also believe a strong working SGA would not only help the students, it would also help the faculty and administration.
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At Eastern New Mexico University, the student government has different programs to promote university fellowship, yet they also have similar programs and committees that help bring about all necessary changes and aim to help improve student life. I think this is a positive solution for the needs of students here. Ithaca College Student Government holds night events for students that want to come and help make a difference in their college, in addition to working to make it an enjoyable event for the students by finding new ways to show school spirit.
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Although Browns coach Rob Chudzinski won't commit to giving the starting quarterback job back to Brandon Weeden, he said he would "love to see more of" Weeden.
Weeden's sprained right thumb is not expected to need surgery, Chudzinski said today after practice. He might be able to play as soon as next week after suffering the injury when he inadvertently smacked his throwing hand against left guard John Greco's helmet Sunday in the fourth quarter of the Browns' 14-6 loss to the Baltimore Ravens.
"Brandon Weeden saw a specialist yesterday," Chudzinski said. "It's highly unlikely he will need surgery. We'll see how he progresses for his status for next week."
If Weeden is not out long term, will it affect Chudzinski's decision about whether to insert him into the starting lineup again?
"Not really," Chudzinski said. "We're just going to take it week by week and see where he's at and where we're at. He's played two games. I'd love to see more of him."
Chudzinski wants to keep his quarterback options open for now. He said he discussed his approach with Weeden and that he understands the situation.
Brian Hoyer will start in Weeden's place Sunday when the Browns (0-2) visit the Minnesota Vikings (0-2). Chudzinski gave Hoyer the nod, even though he entered this week as the team's third-string quarterback and Jason Campbell was listed as Weeden's primary backup on the depth chart.
"I have full confidence in [Hoyer]," Chudzinski said. "He's had a great week of practice and preparation. I think as the week went on, we got better and better and better. I really feel we're good at where we're at right now [at quarterback]. After that, we'll evaluate."
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Chudzinski said running back Willis McGahee will play Sunday after signing with the Browns Thursday in the wake of the Trent Richardson trade. Chudzinski would not reveal whether McGahee will start. He said McGahee, Chris Ogbonnaya and Bobby Rainey will handle the tailback duties.
"We felt like he was the best guy available certainly," said Chudzinski, who wsa the offensive coordinator at the University of Miami when McGahee starred there. "Me knowing Willis and how tough he is from a mental standpoint, what he brings to the table, I have 100 percent faith in him."
The Denver Broncos cut McGahee in June after he failed to attend any of their voluntary practices in May. He hasn't played since Week 11 last season, when he tore the medial collateral ligament in his right knee and fractured his lower right leg against the San Diego Chargers.
McGahee, though, insisted he's 100 percent healthy now.
"I think I'm doing pretty damn good," McGahee said. "Coming back from the knee injury, this and that, I can't complain."
Injury updates
Outside linebacker Quentin Groves said he's been told he could be out 4-6 weeks with the high-ankle sprain he suffered Sunday against the Ravens.
Groves said he's never had a high-ankle sprain before.
"I hope I never have another one," said Groves, who has been wearing a walking boot on his left foot. "This is my first one. It's healing. It's coming along rather quickly, so things looking good."
Defensive end Ahtyba Rubin (strained right calf) is listed as questionable for Sunday. He missed the first two games this season with the injury, and he believes his status against the Vikings will be a game-time decision.
"I'm feeling good," Rubin said. "I'm feeling better than I did previous days and last week. I'm really just trying to take it easy, make sure I go out there and perform and make sure I don't re-injure my calf again. I'll get out there and run around Sunday morning and see how it goes."
Right guard Shawn Lauvao (high-ankle sprain) is listed as doubtful. Strong safety T.J. Ward (shoulder), defensive end Desmond Bryant (wrist) and wide receiver Josh Cooper (shin) are probable.
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Browns outside linebacker Paul Kruger was fined $7,875 for unnecessary roughness Sunday against the Ravens. He pulled an opponent's helmet off. Neither Browns nose tackle Phil Taylor nor Ravens running back Ray Rice were fined by the NFL for their altercation in the first quarter Sunday. Taylor smacked Rice in the helmet, and several players have suggested that Rice spit on Taylor. … The Browns picked left tackle Joe Thomas third overall in 2007, passing on Vikings running back and reigning NFL Most Valuable Player Adrian Peterson, who went seventh overall. Even though Thomas is a six-time Pro Bowler, some fans will always wonder whether the Browns should have picked Peterson. "That's fun barroom talk and back-and-forth banter, but I guess I can't really compare myself to somebody that doesn't play my position," Thomas said. "He's a phenomenal talent. If somebody says they should've picked Adrian Peterson instead of me, it's not hurting my feelings because he's a damn good player."


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Right then, here's a picture of R-Patz in a dimly lit club, sitting very closely to a blonde lady and talking to her, with a smile on his face.
Now, if we were Kristen , or indeed if this was our boyfriend who had been snapped in this way, our suspicions would definitely be raised and we might ask questions such as: 'Who is she?' 'Why were you snuggled up so close?' 'How long did you speak to her for?'
R-Patz and blondie do appear to be having a cosy time. But then the club was probably loud, so they had to shout in each other's ears ( like Chris Brown and Nicole Scherzinger claimed when they appeared to be kissing ). She could simply be a friend of a friend. And they might have only spoken for two minutes, which just happened to be when someone whipped out their mobile and took this shot.
What we do know is it was taken around 3am on Saturday morning at the Electric Room Bar, which is inside the Dream Hotel, in Manhattan.
Onlookers have told Us Weekly that they're behaviour was innocent: "(He was chatting to her) in a friendly way, nothing more. He kept to himself mostly.
"Rob was in his own world with his friends. He also looked scared of the world. He seemed a bit timid," one fellow clubber said.
While another reckons: "He was hanging out with some friends. (He) was chatting with a table of people drinking beers . . . there were girls and guys there."
If we were Kristen, we'd be inclined to believe this. But then she doesn't particularly have a leg to stand on after her cuddles with Rupert Sanders, does she? ( Read the latest on the scandal here ).
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A new survey of Jewish communal organizations found that 50 percent of them have taken significant steps to welcome gays and lesbians and their families.
The Jewish Organization Equality Index provides benchmarks for gauging and improving policies regarding gay, lesbian bisexual and transgendered persons at North American Jewish communal organizations. The index was released Sunday by the Human Rights Campaign, an LGBT civil rights organization.
Some 204 Jewish communal organizations, or about 10 percent of the organizations invited to take part, participated in the survey.
The index found that 98 percent of participating membership-based organizations offer same-sex couples family memberships; 90 percent use inclusive terms in their publicity materials; and 73 percent have a written non-discrimination policy.
The index also found that 75 percent of participating organizations have not specifically recruited LGBT individuals to their lay leadership board in the past three years, and that 79 percent have not targeted the LGBT community in workplace recruitment efforts.
"We applaud the organizations that participated and are taking important steps to foster LGBT inclusion, but we still have a long way to go until LGBT Jews – indeed, all Jews – are embraced as full and vital members of the Jewish family in every aspect of communal life," said Lynn Schusterman, a major Jewish philanthropist and one of the index's funders. "We have an opportunity to use these findings to truly commit ourselves to the vital but challenging work of forging a culture in which inclusivity, diversity and equality are paramount. The question is: will we?"
Other funders include the Morningstar Foundation, Stuart Kurlander and an anonymous donor.
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They have gun control in Cuba. They have universal health care in Cuba. So why do they want to come here? -the late, Paul Harvey
If guns kill people, spoons made Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donnel fat!
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Here is the lovely original Butterick 6815 (I made only the dress, far left).
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yay! it turned out great!
That looks really great! I love the awesome color.
Hey what a great job, it turned out lovely. I wish I had the sewing skills beyond Year 8 basics to do something similar. Looking forward to the cocktail taffeta version.
I love the dress, the pattern is gorgeous and I also love the color of your fabric.
I can only agree with what the Ladies before me said... very nice dress and what a super color..
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I love the fit, style and colour. You have done a lovely job! Beautiful!
It looks fabulous.
Love this! I have to work on figuring out width at the bust of pieces prior to sewing as I'm always being confounded by too much ease, I always laze out at that since it's not as easy as the waist (with darts and such). It's a really flattering style on you, and I love that neckline!
Wow this is beautiful, great job!
The colour and dress are absolutely amzaing! They both suit you completely :)
Stunning dress, and I adore the color!
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Gorgeous dress! I really love it!
What a beautiful dress! That collar detail is just fabulous! I just found your blog and loving all the sewing you've done! Amazing!! I really need to get my sewing going!!
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Hidden Korea
Korea , 2000
Run Time: Approx. 60 min
Directed by Jan Thompson
At first glance, it may seem that Korea is engulfed by modern culture; but a bedrock of tradition, inherited from shamanism, Buddhism and Confucianism, underlies families, rituals and, of course, the food. Hidden Korea is a nourishing introduction to, or a reminder of, the rich culture of an ancient society. In Hidden Korea, the husband and wife team of Professor Bruce Kraig and Director Jan Thompson explore the Republic of South Korea during the fall harvest time. Among the many things that we see during this time is the celebration of their Thanksgiving holiday, Chu'sok, where family members gather to build shrines and bow at their ancestral mounds; a highly skilled potter who produces celadon pottery; a Confucian scholar at a traditional village; Buddhist temples where the monks perform dances and rituals; the famous Cheju Island pearl divers, a group of women whose average age is 50; and a Ginseng factory where some of the best ginseng in the world originates. The program focuses on the special foods that are unique to the Korean peninsula, such as preserved vegetables (kimchee), bean and chili paste; and many varieties of seafood.
My Sassy Girl
Korea , 2001
Run Time: 137 min
Winner of the 22 nd Annual Hong Kong Film Awards as the Best Asian Film, My Sassy Girl tells a Korean love story. One night, Kyun-woo meets a terribly drunken girl. He is ashamed to help her, but once he does, a deep sense of responsibility has been developed within him. He decides to heal her pain. Even though she slaps him, pushes him into the pool, forces him to wear heels, he tolerates. Will she stay after the pain is healed? See why this movie was number one at the box office for six weeks in Korea !
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter.and Spring
Korea , 2003
Run Time: 102 min
Directed by Kim Ki-duk
A tiny Buddhist monastery floats on a raft amidst a breathtaking landscape, tended to by a solitary Monk. Into this serene setting comes a young child, who will become the Old Monk's protégé.and so begins a lifelong journey of hope, despair, passion and redemption in a film hailed as "a triumph of sheer cinematic craft," (Rene Rodriquez, Miami Herald ).
From the brash actions of youth, through the dawn of adolescence and the fullness of adulthood, one man's life lessons are learned as seasons pass, his emotional inner life changing as the landscape around him. Award-winning Korean writer/director/editor Kim Ki-duk has crafted a lushly exotic yet universal story about the human spirit and its evolution, from Innocence to Love, Evil to Enlightenment, and ultimately to Rebirth that Elizabeth Weitzman of the New York Daily News calls " a beautifully composed canvas, the sort of film one falls into, resurfacing at the end with great reluctance."
The Way Home
Korea , 2002
Run Time: 88 min
Directed by Yeong-Hyang Lee
Take a delightful journey with this "magnificently expressive," award-winning Korean movie that has captured the hearts of audiences throughout the world. The Way Home is the story of Sang-woo, a seven-year-old boy from the city, and his elderly grandmother, a deaf-mute who has spent her entire life in a small rural village. When Sang-woo's mother is forced to send him to live with his grandmother, Sang-woo is shocked at what he finds-a place without electricity, indoor plumbing or access to fast-food restaurants. Angry and confused, Sang-woo rejects his grandmother's attempts to please him. But, as time passes, the old woman's kindness begins to touch the young boy's heart-awakening curiosity, understanding, and finally, love. With irresistible performances, charm and humor, The Way Home is "one of the very best movies of the year!" - Boston Globe
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David Morrissey
Here's how much David Morrissey, the English actor who plays the Governor on The Walking Dead, loves being part of AMC's hit zombie drama airing 8 p.m. Sundays. "I would make the tea in order to be on a Walking Dead set," he says. "Whatever they wanted me to be, I would be: making the coffee, drive the trucks, sew the costumes." Not that it's necessary for Morrissey to do those things. His performance as a charismatic, one-eyed villain on the show is more than enough. The Governor is the leader of the Woodbury community that's at war with our heroes, a group of zombie apocalypse survivors holed up in a prison. He's the kind of evil character that viewers love to hate. Which is Morrissey's saving grace, because he freely admits he can't cut it in any of those other jobs he mentioned. As he puts it, "You've not tasted my tea."
1 Did you have any preconceived ideas about the Governor when you were cast?
I didn't even know what the character was. I just knew it was a substantial character in a TV show that I loved. But as it emerged who this character was, from the writers' outline, this was a very complex man who is a leader of the community in this very challenging world. I didn't read the comic's Governor for a long time. Robert Kirkman [creator of The Walking Dead] wrote a wonderful book called Rise of the Governor. We're exploring the character where he leaves Rise of the Governor to the beginning of the comic book.
2 Were you inspired by any real-life leaders, perhaps a cult leader, in crafting your portrayal?
I looked into many ideas of leadership. Not just cults, but also standard leaders. I think that any successful leader has to be able to know the people around him and how he can manipulate them and whether he can mold them to his vision.
3 Your character monstrously kept zombie heads in an aquarium. But we also saw a tender side of him when he was caring for his zombie daughter. Do you think the Governor's enemies would sympathize with him if they could have seen that side of him?
The audience knows the Governor better than anybody else, because they see him in his private moments. I think it's important that the audience has one relationship with the Governor and the characters in the show have a different relationship.
4 Any significant difference between making a TV show in the U.K. versus making one here in the States?
The basic playing a character is the same whichever side of the Atlantic you're on. You create a character in the same way. Or certainly I do. The real difference is the budgets. It's much bigger here than in the U.K.
5 What do you think is the most important personality trait to surviving a zombie apocalypse?
If you're going to survive in this world, you'd better have a thick skin and be able to desensitize yourself to the things that you are going to see around you. I certainly think there's a sense of the Governor doing that.
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The food and cultural revolution has well and truly arrived in Bendigo.
Blockbuster art shows, cosy cafes, good food and a new hotel - Bendigo is making its mark as a trendy place for a break. And the latest addition is the Schaller Studio Art Series Hotel, named after the Melbourne artist who is decorating the place with original artworks.
Sitting in the industrial-style Brewhouse cafe and roaster on Hargreaves Street I can't help but be amazed by the city's transformation. Across the road is the Good Loaf bakery and cafe. The food and cultural revolution has well and truly arrived. Earlier, I visited Bendigo Art Gallery to see the Genius & Ambition show. The gallery has secured 100 works from the Royal Academy of Arts in London, including big names such as Reynolds, Gainsborough and Constable. Australian artists (Streeton, Bunny and Roberts, among others), who made their reputation through the Royal Academy, are also on display.
Bendigo has become a vibrant city with a lively cafe and food culture, says senior curator Tansy Curtain. The city's population is growing and craftspeople and artists are moving in, she says. The gallery recently expanded with an $8.5 million extension opened in March.
Other intriguing shows lined up for later in the year are Undressed: 350 years of Underwear in Fashion and The Body Beautiful in Ancient Greece.
After our tour, we head to the Rocks on Rosalind, just a few doors down on View Street. Inside the historic National Bank building, hospitality veterans Finn Vedelsby and Ben Massey run a contemporary restaurant-cum-wine bar that feels right on trend.
Over on Lucan Street, the Schaller Studio is taking shape. The latest in the Art Series Hotels by Will Deague, the 128-room hotel will feature paintings, sculptures and, on the facade, an eight-metre-tall mosaic by Schaller. The artist says he is inspired by the romance and history of Bendigo.
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Rozelle set two initial goals for his rehabilitation: Leave the hospital in time for the birth of his child last August, and ski again by Christmas. He spent hours a day in therapy, and that got him home two months ahead of schedule. Then, he put on his first prosthesis, started training four hours a day and skied the Rockies right on time.
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What are the secrets to Beyonce's fabulous body and her stamina? Hard work and motivation. Blah, blah blah. Tell me something I don't know already. In SELF magazine's June issue, the singer revealed the secrets behind her fitness regime that helps keep her keep fit.
"It's one thing to dance. It's another thing to be able to sing at the same time. I have to be in shape," the 10-time Grammy winner told the mag. "I feel like I'm an athlete on stage. I'm trying to do as much cardio as I can, so if I have a really long day of dancing [in rehearsals], then I'll only run maybe 3 miles. If not, then I'll run 6," she explained.
One thing that Beyonce has really had to work on is her arms. "Ever since I was a little girl, my legs have been curvy and pretty muscular, but my arms have always been really skinny. They were so weak, I could barely hold a mic," he told the mag. "But now I can do push-ups! Ten at a time!"
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THE people to watch with pity in 20th Century-Fox's "Up From the Beach" are the handful of veteran French actors who are helplessly trapped in it. Not only are they representing a group of villagers in Normandy who are marched all over the country by the confused American invaders on D-Day-plus-one, but they are also obviously at the mercy of the confused Americans who made the film.
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Girl: You ever been Shang Tsunged? Boy:No,What's that? Girl:It means I'm gonna suck the soul out of you!
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it was full last night my mate missed the boat
Cheers Exiled. I would feel a bit bad though as I would literally do zero other running with them. I think i am going to rely on a dropout. This year 7 of us entered and only 3 ran because of injury and it's not a race to run with a niggle! The problem is that the relatively low price of entry means people don't bother finding a replacement.
Hope I'll get in anyway. The high I got this year was genuinely one of the biggest of my life. Running through the Fountain Head crowd after 8 miles barely seeing a soul was truly incredible. Remember my eyes welling as saw my friends and family! And the camaraderie with the marshals who give up their day to sit by a bog. Plus the live band in the cowshed! Just an amazing event.


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Feb 10, 2013 at 4:47 pm #1299100
To think Adan and I were trail running in the snow yesterday morning only to be surfing and camping with our families here last night…Feb 10, 2013 at 4:52 pm #1953010
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@ngatelLocale: Southern California
The snow doesn't exist unless you have documentation!
We have a lot of snow above us right now in San Jacinto. But I didn't take any pictures either.
It is cool that we can ski or snowshoe in the morning and surf in the afternoon.
:)Feb 11, 2013 at 9:36 am #1953195
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"Winter" in southern CA is my favorite time of year.
It's always a nice treat when the coast ranges get a dusting of snow a few times each year. Here's a couple shots from the mountains behind Ojai in Ventura County from earlier this winter. Surf and snow in the same day…
Anacapa and Santa Cruz Island are visible on the horizon.
The ridgeline on the far horizon is the Santa Monica Mountains; just off to the right is the beaches of Oxnard/Pt Mugu area.
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@bluewaterLocale: SoCal
I finally took advantage of the fourth season in Southern California.
Snow camping on San Jacinto last week.
Although it rained all night we were above the clouds in the morning.Feb 14, 2013 at 1:23 pm #1954435
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From the tram microspikes were fine on the trail up to Round Valley. From 9,100 feet+ the snow was knee high and snow shoes were best. After the most recent storm the cross country routes to the top via Sid Davis/Tamarack look like fun. Crampons would be a must if going up the mountaineers route via Snow Creek but I don't have experience with that route.
I usually check these sites for info on current conditions:
Have fun!Feb 19, 2013 at 12:23 pm #1956058
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Just climbed Baldy via the Ski Hut trail to Baldy Bowl, good layer of snow on the ascent passed the Ski Hut. Not too icy, though Microspikes were nice. So far that's my only experience this Winter in Southern California!Feb 19, 2013 at 1:32 pm #1956088
Cool Justin, I was planning on climbing Baldy this weekend.Feb 19, 2013 at 1:53 pm #1956101
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Craig – for a family man you certainly manage a lot of outdoor time.Feb 19, 2013 at 4:22 pm #1956149
"Craig – for a family man you certainly manage a lot of outdoor time."
I don't golf, watch TV, watch sports, and I don't do happy hour with the co-workers.
I figure that alone frees up about 7 hours per day vs. the average American male, right?Feb 20, 2013 at 9:26 pm #1956721
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I'm with Craig on this one. While its personal preference how many hobbies you have, it's prudent to limit your interests and choose your hobbies wisely. Allows me to have a lot of family time and build" relationship equity" (a term coined on BPL?) with my wife, allowing me to go out more.
Plus, why would you go to happy hour with coworkers when you can buy a barrel aged imperial stout for cheaper, and drink in peace and quiet while reading a book or, perusing BPL…
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I live in a small town with a high crime rate, and I'm looking to pick up something for defense. I'm new to firearms, aside from a session shooting a .22 with my dad, long ago. I will be getting instruction along with a weapon, and a case of ammo for lots of practice.
After some research, I've settled on a DA/SA semi-auto in a 5" barrel, though I'm still trying to work out which specific model to get. I'm mostly looking at Taurus's 24/7s. I'm considering 9mm or .40 S&W, and I was leaning toward the .40 S&W... until I went to the range yesterday.
At the range I ran 10 rounds through each of a .40 Glock 22 and a 9mm H&K. I was nervous and jumpy while shooting, but I did okay with the 9mm, probably around a 4-5" median group at 7 yards. The Glock 22 was a different story. The muzzle flip was bad, it felt like the pistol was going to jump out of my hands every time I fired it. I missed the paper entirely a couple times, and the rest of the holes were scattered over the bottom half of the target. Obviously, I can control the 9mm H&K much better than Glock 22. However, I wasn't shooting +P rounds in the 9mm.
Here are my questions:
Do the +P 9mm rounds - in particular the Corbon DPX 115gr +P - have substantially more recoil than a blazer FMJ round? Would that load be as difficult to control as .40 S&W?
Obviously the design of the handgun can influence recoil and muzzle flip. Do Glock 22s have excessive recoil/muzzle flip compared to other .40's such as the Taurus 24/7? Is the .40S&W recoil something I would learn to handle with practice? I don't have strong arms. I'm a scientist and I sit in front of a computer all day...
I've seen forum posts elsewhere which said the Glock 22 has a lot of muzzle flip, and other posts which say the Taurus 24/7 .40 is not bad. Unfortunately, the firing range didn't have Taurus models and it was expensive enough that I can't afford to try shooting a wider variety of handguns.
I'm open to considering other models as well; the H&K was very nice, though I didn't like the magazine release. I definitely want a manual safety, so Glock and Springfields are out. I prefer DA/SA also. The one thing I dislike about the Taurus 24/7s is the lack of a decocker; their 24/7 OSS model fixes this, but it's not available and I've had conflicting information as to whether or not it will be available to civilians. With no decocker, I assume you must remove the magazine, eject the cartridge from the chamber, and dry-fire it to get it into a de-cocked state without firing?
Advice would be greatly appreciated... thanks.
- Dave
I'm with Scooter. I carry a Glock 23 (.40) and like it but will be going to a 9mm someday so I can shoot cheaper.
What you were running into with the Glock vs HK was the caliber difference, .40 is generally "snappier" than 9mm. +Ps in 9mm aren't that dramatic of a jump, IMO. Also, Glock triggers feel very different from the USP trigger. Personally, I've never shot well with Glock triggers, but I probably could given enough practice.. Glocks are very popular for competition, so a lot of people can shoot a Glock well, I just can't.
I've never owned a 24/7 so I can't speak to those specifically. I do have a HK USP in 9mm, and yes, you do get the advantage of a manual decocker and safety (if so equipped, and most are from the factory). Some people love or hate the USP mag release - I have short thumbs so a conventional mag release requires me to shift my grip - but if you work the USP style with the index or middle finger of the shooting hand, it actuall ends up faster, IMO..
On some guns, like the Glock, that are striker fired, the decocker is debatable - the striker isn't fully cocked until you pull the trigger - so you carry it with the striker in a 'pre-cock' condition.
power doesn't mean much if you can't hit what you're aiming for; if a 9mil feels better to shoot, stick with that. i carry a 9 sig and i figure 15rds of jhp is likely to deter anyone.
Wow, thanks for all the replies.
My problem with the .40 wasn't necessarily the amount of recoil; it was the way the gun jumped UP instead of pushing back. Every time I fired the .40, the side of my trigger finger got hit by the trigger guard. If the recoil had pushed back more instead of up, I don't think it would have been a problem.
I'd prefer the more powerful round, but obviously I must be able to control it.
Thanks again, everyone.
Don't let too many folks fill your head with the caliber wars. If 9mm wasn't adequate about a million people need to get up and walk out of their graves since they were killed with a sub-par caliber.
Shot placement is key and in order to get consistent shot placement you need to be able to control your gun. The human brain, heart and other organs don't know or care what size the hole is they just know they have been hit.
If you really have your heart set on a DA/SA I have two of the softest shooting 9mm on the market, a Beretta 92fs and a Baby Eagle polymer framed semi-compact. Both of these guns have great accuracy and are very easy to control, which make follow up shots much easier. Plus they give you 15 + 1 to 17 + 1. There are tons of great guns on the market so keep shooting different ones until you find what is right for you, don't worry about what is popular.
I was in about the same state and I ended up with a Walther P99c in 9mm. I couldn't be happier. The gun is small enough to carry, accurate enough to hit what I point at, and totally reliable. It breaks down in about three seconds (literally). I don't know about the caliber wars, but I can shoot 9mm from this small gun without excessive muzzle flip. I also happen to really like the looks of this gun. Handsome but not frilly. Also, it has three trigger modes and a decocker. Look into it.
BTW: Don't give Shipwreck your phone number or he'll start calling you until you buy one. He sure helped me decide. Thanks SW.
Tharmer, doesn't the Walther P99 lack a manual thumb safety?
Yes, it does not have one. It is DA/SA - or U can set up the 1st shot as SA with the longer pull. Your choice. It has a deocker button. But, it is a sweet gun
Hey your a member over at thefiringline right?? You will like it here. These guys will steer you in the right direction.
I shoot and carry that load in my Combat Commander and in my S&W 3913 I find its a great load and have no trouble with 9 as a SD gun. I had a 40, fired 1 one box of ammo and was history. My 45 will do better than 40 and a lot less on the snappy recoil. The +P 9mm will also do fine . So 40 went by by.
You were using a full sized Glock in .40. Your shot placement indicates you were anticipating the recoil to the extent that it seriously affected your accuracy. Also, I suspect you were not holding the gun securely enough if you experienced the kind of muzzle flip you describe. There are thousands of competition shooters who use the Glock 22 and its longer barreled sidekick, the 35 and they are able to place shots quickly and accurately at greater distances than 7 yards.
I think the 9mm is an effective self defense caliber if used with hollow tip cartridges. Even if a bad guy is shot with a .40 or .45, it doesn't necessarily mean the threat ends immediately. If you read detailed descriptions of police shootouts, you find men who are shot once or several times in the torso with higher caliber rounds and they continue to fire their weapons or otherwise present a threat, even though many of them die afterwards of their original gunshot wounds. My thinking is if confronted with this type of situation, shoot and keep shooting until the threat is neurtralized.
Shot placement and being comfortable with your handgun are much more important than caliber especially when comparing the 9mm and
.40. I suggest you go with the 9mm.
I know my opinion may upset those that like to get into 9mm vs. .45ACP arguments but the 9mm Luger, .40 S&W, and .45ACP are all somewhat-anemic rounds. They all fill the same role as far as I'm concerned(which is to serve as an alternative when a proper defensive weapon is not available. ). Keep in mind these are PISTOLS we're talking about. Don't think you're gaining a huge advantage with one caliber over the other. Use what you are most comfortable with.
As somewhat of a "beginner" I would recommend a 9mm Luger or .38 Special chambered pistol to become proficient. You can always get a different pistol later down the road.
Last edited by Revolver; 11-20-2006 at 08:30 PM.
Thanks very much everyone, for all the great advice. Looks like I'll be getting something in 9mm. I'll start investigating all your suggestions.
Uno99, yeah I signed up to thefiringline also. I'm getting lots of great feedback both here and there.
Tharmer, Shipwreck... as I explained elsewhere (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...37#post2163737) I'm not going to consider any gun that doesn't have a thumb safety switch, no matter how great the gun is otherwise. I want a safety switch in addition to the trigger. Even the most careful people make mistakes, so redundancy in safety is good. I know a lot of people don't agree, and that's fine - this is my opinion. I am not willing to compromise on this, as I feel it is a matter of safety.
I carry and shoot primarily 9mm (usually Glocks, lately a beastly Beretta), so I obviously think it's adequate for defense. However, recoil management has almost zero relation to strength. Anyone (even a scientist ) can control a .40 or .45 with correct technique - but that's the key. You have to know how to hold the pistol properly; poor grip technique and arm/wrist position are some of the most common errors I see on the range.
My wife is 5'2" and shoots extremely fast and well with a .45 pistol. She's a dean at a university and also works on the computer all day. It's not about strength, simply because post-modern shooting technique teaches us not to muscle the gun or fight the recoil. You actually want the gun to pop straight up and down in recoil; your hands only guide the pistol's recoil so that it returns to the same place after each shot. This requires little strength, but does require intelligent application of technique.
As the late, great Jeff Cooper said, "It's not about muscular strength in your arms, so much as how you put your hands on the pistol." He was a fight-the-gun user of the Weaver Stance, but it was obvious even back then that the hands control the recoil more than the tense arms.
You can learn about post-modern shooting techniques here: www.brianenos.com. Try not to be put off by the rather silly "Eastern" Zen-type shooting philosophies promulgated by many of the forum members there. Learn about The Grip and the shooting stance Enos advocates, and any issues controlling a .40 (or any other pistol of reasonable power) will evaporate.
Stay away from any pistol that makes you flip the muzzle because that can make your gun jam. I've seen it all to often. My son is a big, strong kid and shoots almost everyday. He has a problem with muzzle flip when shooting one of my compact S&W 40's but he can control the 45 ACP with no problem. When he shoots the 40 it jams on him every other magazine. Check out the XD's. I would stay with the 9mm, it's a great all around round.
Ok, I'm going to throw this out there because I'm a Sig nut.......
Check out the Sig P220 Carry in .45 auto. That's right. Not 9mm and not .40 S&W. I don't think that there's anybody here who will argue against the stopping power of the .45 round. It's recoil is mild in my opinion as compared to a .40 S&W. Sigs are dead on accurate and reliable. I have two and love them both.
Again, I know that this isn't exactly what you were asking about but it's a solution that addresses all of the concern that you brought up.
The Glock 22 is about as bad a snap as you can get with .40 (except for those baby kahr's) untill you put a hogue on it. A rubber grip with that gun makes it feel like 9mm! I would suggest giving a .45 a try as well. I find it more pleasant to shoot then the .40. I am an HK guy and if you decide to go with that then you will not be let down. Go over to the HKpro forum for all that jazz. If I were you and wanted a 9mm then i would go for a CZ75 or the Tac model. The tac has a decock and can hold 19+1 of 9mm and with a boar axis lower then the Beretta it feels like the sofetest 9mm I have ever tried. CZ's are very durable and accurate. They also have a lovely grip on them. You may want to handle one and see what ya think. Hope this helps!


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Nelson certain he'll play, Williams dealing with the flu
Green Bay - Wide receiver Jordy Nelson (knee) was a full participant in practice Thursday and said in the locker room afterward that he expects to play against the Minnesota Vikings Saturday night.
Fellow WR Randall Cobb (ankle) was also a full participant, which means the Packers will have their top four receivers healthy and on the field come game time.
"I feel good," Nelson said.
Asked if he had any doubts he would play, he said: "No, none whatsoever."
Nelson said it's important for him to warm up completely before he doesn't anything strenuous so after going through the walk-through Thursday in practice, he ran sprints on the sideline as the special teams units took part in their work.
"I was warmed up to begin with then our coach talked, so you've just got to stay warm," he said. "They had the doors open so it was a little chilly in there. It's something I've just got to continue to make sure I'm good to go at all times. But I felt good.
"It was more of just getting completely warm to begin with. I think once I'm ready to go I'll be fine. But we don't do much to begin with so you've got to make sure you're ready to go and I was just doing -- wanted to run some extra things, as well."
Nelson said he doesn't anticipate having to ride a stationary bike on the sideline during the game.
This will be the first time since the season opener that he, Greg Jennings, James Jones and Randall Cobb have been completely healthy. Jennings injured his abdominal muscle late in that game, and there has been at least one injury every week since.
"We're excited about it and hopefully we can go out and perform well, make a lot of plays and play a few games together," Nelson said. "That's what you want. You want to be at full strength going into the playoffs and I think we're as healthy as we can be."
Williams did not take part in practice at all. He came to work on Thursday not feeling well and was soon sent home. The flu has been running through the Packers' locker room and Williams appears to have it.
Coach Mike McCarthy wasn't sure yet whether Williams would be ready.
"I really don't have feel for that one way or the other," he said. "He came in and obviously had flu symptoms. He was given medication and was sent home. We'll probably know more in the morning."
The Packers have to release their final injury report on Friday. Williams' status will be listed then.
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