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Soybeans were mixed on old crop/new crop spread trade. The near term supply remains tight and demand is solid, but there was no real fresh news. New crop's watching the corn planting pace over the next few days. Soybean meal was mixed with nearbys up and deferreds down, while bean oil was up, following crude oil. Informa Economics estimates Brazil's soybean crop at 87.4 million tons and sees Argentina at 54 million.
Corn was lower on fund and technical selling. The trade expects some solid planting progress over the next few days, with warmer temperatures and less rainfall. Demand is good with unknown buying 101,600 tons of old crop U.S. corn. Ethanol futures were lower. Informa Economics expects Brazil's corn crop to be 70.5 million tons and Argentina is estimated at 23.3 million.
The wheat complex was higher on fund and speculative buying. Kansas City led the way up on forecasts for more dry, hot, and windy weather in the Southern Plains next week. Kansas' wheat crop is expected to be the smallest since 1996 and Oklahoma has also taken a big hit. Informa Economics projects U.S. winter wheat production at 1.496 billion bushels. Minneapolis was up on the spring planting delays and Chicago followed the other pits. Saudi Arabia is tendering for 550,000 tons of wheat and Egypt is in the market for an unspecified amount of wheat. Israel bought 60,000 tons of feed wheat.
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Costa Rica's high season for travel (also known as the dry season) runs from December to April, and the country's rainy "green" season runs from May to November. Travel in spring to experience the best of both worlds -- you'll avoid the climax of the rainy season as well as the dry season's crowds; plus, you could pay lower green-season rates at many hotels and resorts. Manuel Antonio National Park offers some of the country's most spectacular beaches -- without hordes of partying spring breakers. The park's beaches border lush tropical rain forest, and travelers can spot monkeys, iguanas, tropical birds and other wildlife directly from the white sands.


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This is a jazzed-up version of tahini sauce, made simple by using store-bought hummus.
Make Ahead: The sauce can be refrigerated in an airtight container for up to 2 days.
Servings: 1 cup
- 8 ounces store-bought hummus
- 1/4 cup water
- 2 medium cloves garlic, crushed
- 1/2 teaspoon salt
- Leaves from 1/4 bunch of flat-leaf parsley, washed well and patted dry
Combine the hummus, water, garlic, salt and parsley in a food processor; process for 30 seconds to form a smooth sauce. Transfer to an airtight container and refrigerate until ready to serve (up to 2 days).
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The Patriots rookies are already signed and working in Foxboro, but today marks the real start of another run at the Super Bowl.
In New England, we count rings, not victories, and this could finally be the Patriots year . 2010 and 2011 were years that brought unexpected results. 14-2 and 13-3 seasons ended with disappointment, but those over achieving teams earned everyone's respect.
2012 is a different beast, as Bill Belichick has put together an off-season that rivals 2007, and we know how good they were that year.
All the rookies are signed and in Foxboro, and getting acclimated to the NFL. On Thursday, they will start to compete against the veterans.
It's about sealing the deal now. Losing to the New York Giants in the final seconds of the Super Bowl has left the Patriots hungry to hoist the Lombardi trophy after a 7-year drought.
The return of Josh McDaniels brings a fresh approach, and his experience with Belichick, along with Tom Brady should lead to an even more lethal offense.
Tom Brady isn't dealing with a weapons shortage on the outside with the additions of Brandon Lloyd and Jabbar Gaffney.
The former Denver duo is reunited with McDaniels, who convinced Belichick that they were the perfect fits for the offense. Lloyd is the athletic, precise route runner who has great hands. His fluid style is a great fit with Brady, and Brady won't have to be perfect in delivering the ball. Lloyd has the hand/eye coordination that will excite fans.
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I have it: 505 I had it: 457 I want it: 269 My signature: 16
Designers » N-Q » Paco Rabanne Oriental Woody « Groups
I have it: 505 I had it: 457 I want it: 269 My signature: 16
This is an interesting masculine fragrance, more intense and provocative than the feminine version. Gray amber is in the limelight enhanced by the notes of mint, vetiver and moss . The bottle design deserves attention; just like the bottle for the feminine version, this one was made using glass, silicone and metal. Purple is the color of the third millennium, the the Age of Aquarius, according to astrologers and Paco Rabanne himself. It was created in 1999. Ultraviolet was launched in 2001. The nose behind this fragrance is Jacques Cavallier.
Perfume rating: 3.94 out of 5 with 754 votes.
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Opening reminds me Roma per Uomo by Laura Biagiotti vintage one, dunno about the current one :)
Ultraviolet smells like the spiritual essensce of polyester fabric.
Whether that's a positive or a negative is up to you.
still like it,still available everywhere,still a lot of men uses it here...but Icant help finding it old fashioned and,above all,very artificial.
Some of my friends are adore this juice, for me it's ok. Suitable Cold fall days and winter seasson.
I'm feeling Warm and pleasant when i wear it.
Good but monotonous scent from first spray to last..
One single level.
About longevity 8+ hours on my skin 8/10
Sillage is close to skin 5/10
Scent 7/10
For now is super...soon i will write a review.
This perfume is a big disappoint. The smell is great, fresh and cold like a clean soft touch, but too faint and soft, I can barely feel on my skin after 30 minutes, I need to dig my nose to my arm to smell it, so that is the main problem, the longevity is also very poor. I can compare this juice with Carven L'eau intense they have common points, Ultraviolet is more powdery I think, but Carven is stronger and more manly. Remninds me also of Prada and BLV notte pour homme, clean soapy scents, but this smells more aromatic and has a female feature. I can feel mint with a tiny amount of sweetness like in Versace Eros but not as sweet, fresher. Definately smells unisex.
Good smell, terrible performance:(
Personalmente lo ritrovo piatto. Mi spiego meglio nonostante sia un buon profumo da sentire non comprerei mai questo prodotto perchè secondo il mio modesto parere manca di animo. Forti sono le note di muschio ed ambra con cui a ripetizione fuoriescono menta, pepe, vetiver e vaniglia.
Profumo 6.5/10
Sillage 7 / 10
Longevità 7,5 / 10
Scent 7.5/10
Projection 7/10
Longevity 7/10
Overall 7/10
I do not get noticed, it doesn't garner compliments.
Ultraviolet without violet note? Very deceptive name.
Bought this blind, and yes it smells great...on a woman! Thankfully the other half likes it so its an early Christmas present for her!
After 30 minutes I could smell nothing just a plain boring skin scent.
No 1 favourite fragrance!!!
the moment you spray it on it smells like lemon & pepper which made me question my purchase whether it's fake or not. as i'm writing this i just sprayed a little more and sprayed from a distance towards my arm and im starting to exploring different notes wait...im starting to like this NICE! look this frag is weird for what it's worth.
update, i just came back from outside and sprayed a generous amount of it on me both skin and clothes and had to come back to say that this is a room filler! god the projection is awesome i think it's the most powerful perfume i've ever purchased next to boss number one imo.
update #2: you can smell raw vanilla on your arms once it has completely dried down for about an hour-hour and a half.
A very sweet fragrance which is more complex and interesting then it's given credit for. I'll agree that it's quite synthetic smelling, but that's no bad thing here, the mint and amber vibe is actually quite delicious. I am struggling to understand the classification of this as a green fragrance. It seems slightly gourmand somehow. I can't believe it dates back to 2001, time flies!
sweet, warm, a little bit powdery. suit for night time. i used it at day time once, i was sweaty all over, and the green note turned to some annoying smell...maybe only at my skin. still , like it. very long lasting !
I Hate all Minty Frags, to me this smells cheap and it belongs to old timers who dont mind smelling like this or young boys in high school who are new to frags and just happy for js owning a bottle.
The only Paco Rabanne who attract me so far :D
Quite a sweet fragrance overall, verging on feminine over masculine but I feel this has a great contrast and would make you come across more unique if you were a manly man wearing this. I'm a 6'8 guy and wearing this definitely is an eyebrow raiser but more in an impressive way, like wearing a pink shirt but having chest hair and a fully fledged lumberjack beard gleaming through!
Nice smell, worth a buy and for the price you can't go wrong. Unique in it's own sense, very questionable though and I can see why a lot of people don't like it.
yaz-kış kullanabilecek çok güzel bir parfüm, ilk defa bir parfümden bu kadar övgü aldım. ismini çok soran oldu. fark edilebilirliği çok yüksek. paco yine yaptı yapacağını.
This is a synthetic but great fragrance, i love the ambery-oakmossy vibe!
This is very strange: a Paco Rabanne fragrance that isn't nauseating.
It's the exception to the rule: I quiet like it.
Sweet without being overwhelmingly so. 7/10
What can I say? Sweet freshness, I'm a guy and still love sweet scents, if you do too this is a maculine choice and mature with no girly smell at all. First bottle but I'm sure not the last.
A sweet, woody mature smell.
Reminds me of the original Davidoff's Silver Shadow.
Good for everyday use.
This is the strangest scent ever for me, that i have! I bought it because a friend of mine smelled me very very nice, and then i asked him what is this smell and he told me it is ultraviolet by paco rabanne! OK i bought it and applied it on my skin and blahhh it smells like... ugh... strange grassy aroma... it was very bad and ugly! I didn't have the time to wash it off from me and after one or two hours the scent that i liked was there but mixed with the other grassy smell, but it was nice! But overall it is a strange beast this ultraviolet perfume! Probably i will never buy it again, but only time will show. It depends on how many compliments it produces till empty bottle :)
6.5/10 for me and is that high because of it's scent after dried out!
EDIT: After i bough myself Encre Noir it isn't the strangest scent ever for my and get far more likable for me after the Encre Noir lol
EDIT2: Well it generates lots and lots of compliments... i mean every single man and woman that i met makes a notice about the perfume, and asks me what is it! What the actual... i mean i liked it, but on me i feel it like nothing special but i guess for the others around me it is special, and green and fresh... i'm gonna definitely buy some more of this after my bottle ends!
Also it lasts a lot, but this is not it's best part... it silage is epic... yesterday i was in a car mechanic shop and one of the mechanics almost immediately asked me what is this nice perfume... in a smelly car shop... wow... car shop that smells hard on gasoline and oil, and smoke the from the fireplace, and the scent prevailed on the other smells... it is awesome and i have no more word for it. Awesome! Also i will edit my score for it, and it is not for how it smells, but it is for everything that it is, and the score is 9/10!
I bought the cologne for myslef, I thought it smelled rather girly so I gave it to my gf. She flipped out when she was wearing a guys cologne, but quickly got over it. She loves the way it smells on her. She tells me guys compliment her all the time lol
This reminds me of David beckham Instinct and one of the Ferrari frags. Not bad but smells kind of cheap. Ultrared is 100 times better
A great fragrance for day or night. Sweet and woody, I recently bought 50ml eau de toilette as part of box set with body wash for £37... Trust me, a classic mainstream fragrance that isn't worn by many and that doesn't cost the earth.
Really this perfume seems left the future.
Despite this scent already have 15 years, continues to transmit quite a futuristic and modern style.
It is certainly a scent ahead in his time.
With excellent longevity and excellent projection, as is characteristic in all perfumes Paco Rabanne, I highly recommend this perfume to all the innovative men and little conservative.
As always, Paco Rabanne not disappoint, asserting itself as one of the best brands of perfumes in the world.
nice smell. lasts about 5 mins (i think my nostrils may be ruined though by smelling too many perfumes!)
smells like ambergris to me but I can definitely smell the mint. Lovely fresh fragrance.
I very much like sweet scents on men and I think that Ultraviolet is magnificent.
Others may find it chemical or synthetic or cloying… But, oh my, I am a girl that loves this scent on a man. It is so beautifully sweet but, in a macho vanilla/amber way.
Initially, the opening mint note disappointed me, I thought it would be a green, vetiver, minty fresh perfume however, as it started to "open up" the sweetness from the vanilla and the warmth from the amber kicked in and, I fell in love with it.
I believe it is marvelous and still feels very contemporary; it is sensual in a rather non-offensive(not in-your-face sexiness.)
Every time my partner wears this I feel that I want to cuddle him and fall asleep on his neck while inhaling deep long breaths from this lovely scent.
Enjoy the perfume quest.
ok so gotta start this review honestly because paco rabanne xs was the 1st fragrance i ever purcheched back in 2000 so theresalways a part of me that always says go bk to where it al started revile the magic so i did ive bought one million bought black xs bought l'excess bought pretty much every flancker but id never bought uv until today .... because its not really as well known or available here in sunny old england due to it being supposavly being discontiued but i was lucky enough to track this awesome fragrance down so heres the lowdown it opens pretty minty with everything else in the background the spices pepper come threw ones the mint settles its beautiful and well balanced with the amber and vanilla notes it kinda reminds me of joop homme wild if you thew a load of mint over said fragrance it isnt offencive or cloying in anyway and frojects moderatly to well a real hidden and hard to find gem worth every penny a true masterpeice that assures me that mine and pacos relationship will be a happy and wonderful smelling one 5*
With paco robanne you can never go wrong
I had this, didnt care too much for it. I told my gf that this was a unisex/ womens perfume and she likes it and wears it.
This used to be a super sweet almost gourmand powerbomb. Not it's minty with undertones of sweetness. Amber and vanilla base keeps it lingering for quite some time. This is a more mature version than the original. The vetiver is more pronounced also. Still a long lasting scent but the sillage is much lower.
i have both the original and the reformulated versions. The original version is much better and longer lasting than the new reformulated ones. They should stick with the original formula
Gentle scent of synthetic mint with a bit of vetiver back. Great scent but a bit too poor sillage for a night out.
Highly sweet and synthetic fragrance.
unwearable from my pov. Targeted for very young guys.
Just tested this and it smell nice,in a way it reminds me of L'eau D'Issey,same vibe.Just the vibe,they don't smell alike!
It is definitely for spring /autumn and summer nights,it's airy & light.I dont see how this could be a winter fragrance,it wouldn't cut it in cold weather.
I mean lots of mint for winter???
Longevity/projection are moderate on my skin,about 4 hours or so.Projects heavy only in the first hour,after it fades away pretty quickly.
I'm just wondering if it was reformulated since many said that it's longlasting and projects heavy..???
As i said it smells nice but i'm not impressed enough to go buy it anytime soon but you should try it at least!
For now i have my mind set on Versace- Dreamer...i gotta have that one...soon!@
I remember trying this when it came out and it obviously never grabbed me because here I am 15 years later giving it a second chance...and it's not too bad you know?
The first thing that attracted me was the gimmicky and actually quite innovative bottle design. I like it when a vastly different and unconventional sprayer mechanism has been incorporated and that's exactly what ultraviolet has.
Also, I'm quite cynical usually but the whole Purple being the 'colour of the age of Aquarius' and all that is actually right up my street. Fragrances don't need a concept, inner depth or meaning to exist but I think it's cool/amusing when they try to!
The juice is fairly ordinary the opening is fresh and green, not minty as such but with the combination of oakmoss giving more of a green feel. Then the amber and vanilla heart give this a different feel again especially compared with those top notes.
It's dries down like vetiver cleaness vanilla and amber without changing much.
Do I like it?
Well I'm not mad at it...still don't love it the longevity and projection are mediocre to good.
Only worn it the once but I may well revisit if I can get a another sample.
a grate EDT 4 winter , masculine , sophisticated & heavy , the mint , Vetiver & Vanilla works so well together on my skin plus The bottle design deserves attention , it looks like something the perfume bottle would be like in 2070 !
Well done Paco Rabanne , well done indeed !
I saw the commercial for 'Ultraviolet' a lot of years ago, and now when I got the cahnce, I finally bought it. Unfortunately for me, I didn't know how it would smell..
and it's not nice. It's very cheap and with a hint of 'bubbly-soapy'. But fortunately, it doen't last too long.
On me it was mostly amber and vanilla. Longevity is really good, but I think it was a bit too sweet for me.
I really like it but prefer to smell it on other people and not on me.
Great scent for guys! Can't describe notes or anything, because I'm writing this only by the memory of the scent. But this was the signature scent of a guy I was in love with once and I remember my knees weakened when I smelt it on him. It's been many years since I smelled it and that pretty much says it all - you simply can't forget it after smelling it! This scent is very seductive to me. Don't know if they produce it anymore, but I loooved it! I miss you in Norway, Ultraviolet!
Koku hakkında çok doğal diyemem. Hatta baştan alışık olmayanlara itici bile geliyor. Fakat biraz alışınca muhteşem bir koku olduğu ortaya çıkıyor. İlk günlerde "keşke yorumlara inanıp denemeden almasaydım" dediğim parfümün şimdi 3. şişesini aldım. :) Tek başına gayet güzel olmasına rağmen pek çok sert parfümü yumuşatıp hafif şekerli hale getirmek için bir kaç fıs yapınca çok güzel oluyor. Genelde parfümleri karıştırmayın denir ancak doğru ve orijinal parfümlerden az sayıda üst üste sıkmak muazzam ve eşsiz kokular yaratabiliyor. Kalıcılığı ortalama, kokusu ortanın üstü olan bu parfümü yaşı 40'ın altında ve özellikle yakışıklı, sportif arkadaşlara şiddetle öneririm. Yazın kullanımı sıkıntı yaratabilir. Yine de denemeden almayın. Hele orjinali dışında internet tester diye satılanları hiç almayın.
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Synthetic? Yes! Generic? Ya ya bla bla! But who cares if this frag is so amazing and smells so nice and modern even after almost 15 years of its initial release! A masterpiece from Paco Rabanne. It is fresh, strong, very masculine yet youthful. Great night time frag and definitely more unique and less common than that other mass pleaser hit from Rabanne…geee, what was the name? …1 trillion or something…:)
A great mix of unusual notes with monster projection and great longevity! Well done PR!
wonderful combination of mint, vanilla, amber n oakmoss,. initial projection is a blast and then it kind of settles down. This is one of those fragrances that makes you want to sniff yourself all the time, it really is special. might be synthetic but who cares when it smells this good. been using this on and off for more than 10 years now. Every time i finish a bottle I always find myself getting another one and i cant say that about too many other fragrances in my wardrobe. This is the perfect night out scent though it is versatile enough to be worn most of the year except maybe in a hot humid summer.This is a Love it or hate it type of frag and I suppose as others have mentioned, this might not suit all skin types...all I know is on me this is the source of compliments galore from the ladies. Thank you Jacques Cavallier for this gem. It's made more than one night very special. 9/10
Edit- My review is for the vintage version. The current version does not have any oakmoss and smells like violet flavored sugar water. Sigh. IFRA regulations murdered another one of my loves. Get the vintage if you can.
AZ, that is on your skin because on others, smells all day with incredable sillage...i tested it for years, is a magnificent perfume...
It smells nice, smooth and relaxing it very good opening and base but problem is that is there is no sillage and it does not last very long max 1 hr
A friend gave this to me and I was really intrigued by the color and that bottle.
That cool futuristic purple liquid made me think it was going to be an Iris or Lavender composition that was spacey, ethereal and cosmic.
Sadly, it was neither of those, but instead a bit woody and oriental with a strange light mint finish.
So while it was a unique touch adding mint to a sweet/warm fragrance, I can't get over the packaging vs the actual scent itself. Not only that, while the fragrance is ok, it's linear, synthetic, juvenile and doesn't last.
It's just like the movie "Ultraviolet" with Milla Jovovich, which was a feast for the eyes. Sexy and Dazzling to look at, but with weak acting and a horrible script.
I got this perfume, it is not longlasting at all and it disappears within minutes
it is a nice one, you have to try it if you havent smelled it yet!
How to describe scent that is rather unique and rare in my opinion? This one is like having a vintage guitar.. While PR-One Million is a song that you hear every day on your local radio station at least 1000,000 times Ultraviolet is a song that makes you smile every time you hear it;but you don't hear it often enough - so it is still special..
An exotic blend of amber and mint in its opening until all drying.
Becomes a sweet resinous aroma and minty, almost camphor, is a synthetic aroma, seems actually done in the laboratory, but enjoyable.
The fund moss appears that air woody, moist, more classic and light tones of vanilla, a scent unique and under the radar, without a doubt good for those who want to leave the sameness.
Reminds me of Hanae Mori HM EDP (without the lemon). I really like the scent, but the having owned HM for years and loved it, I see no reason to own something so similar. Great fragrance! Definitely recommended, although if you like this scent and feel like you wish there was some citrus to go with it, try HM.
Overall: 8/10
god i love this one
This one is really a strange beast between man perfumes. I wouldn't classify it as for men use only, rather unisex.
On my skin it's quite sweet with big amount of mint, amber and vanilla. I think I feel the oakmoss too. I have to admit I really like it, but I don't have a bottle in my collection, because it lasts very short on me - never more than 4 hours :( However, its projection is quite big, you can say it's a loud perfume. It fits cold seasons better, I think.
It fits me, because I like "strange" fragrances. The bottle also looks nice.
I heard it's discontinued, but in my country I can still buy it.
In my opinion this one is better than Black XS and definitely better than 1 Million.
Good job, Mr Cavallier!
classic fragrance..really masculine
My bf's signature scent.
Definitely can smell the mint and the pepper.
I don't like the middle notes alone, but it blends really well with the other notes.
Sensual,confident scent. :)
This is trully an appealing fragrance. It does n't matter how others react to this as long as you develop a sense of confidence. This fragrance is my confidence booster.
After reading all the rave reviews on this frag, I blind bought it and ended up disappointed. All I could smell was a little amber and mostly oak moss, the mint I would not consider it there, since you have to actually look for it and if you didn't know it was there, you would miss it.All the other notes did not even show up. I ended up giving it away because I did not like the earthy musk tone it gives off. This sent is nothing like I pictured it to be from all the reviews to me. Smell before you buy on this one.
It doesn't matter AT ALL if this is said to be synthetic or natural or whatever. Actually, for me there are natural smelling perfumes and perfume that do not smell natural. This is something i consider very well done, smells fantastic, can be used all year round and everybody is loving it around me whenever i put it. The only issue is that it does not suit every skin but on the right skin, this is a serious killer for everyone. it is strong but not offensive, it is fresh but not aquatic, it is sweet but not syrupy, it is woody but no foresty....gererally and strictly speaking, this is something i smelled only once. i never smelled a perfume that will be similar or closed to this ultraviolet. My wordrope has over 200 perfumes, niche and mainstreams and this together with Aventis, duc de Vervins, Tabarome, rive gauche pour homme and strictly private are the best according to my wife....try it out with an open nose and mind. Judge the smell and not how they did or what they used to create that smell. Unique and attractive smell...all others does not matter.
Good fragrance but poor projection
Sex in a bottle!!! Nuff said.
This works like a charm! Classy and sheer sex appeal!
not so special, between 0 and 10 I give it 4 ! .
Ultraviolet by Paco Rabanne is considered by many as a synthetic perfume, so in some respects but I find it extremely comfortable, soft and dry the opening resembles a cotton ball, soothing and reassuring character, the mint is combined with a delicate spicy note that fades in the final woody and earthy.
It is a warm and sweet fragrance, which reminds me of the days as a child
I spent at Luna Park in front of where he was cooking pots spun sugar, was not so much the desire to eat, but the smell of cooked sugar was something intoxicating, Ultraviolet managed to bring me up there
without a ticket or first-class carriage, clinging with all his might to the mantle of Superman.
i tried many scents but never been compliments when i use this scent. gosh, i was overwhelmed with the response. the fresh scent really caught people's attention.
The most complimented scent ever. When i wear it i almost can´t smell it on my self, but the amount of compliments is insane!
I Asked my dad like 5 times to get this fragrance :))
Stylish Bottle... Very Minty , sweet,Spicy, Smokey... Good projection & Longevity. I Like it cos when ever i wear it i get compliments. Its full of MINT.... Minty Fragrance .8/10
es extraño, en otros huele bien, pero en mi huele mal, se me hace un olor extraño como dulce con menta artificial.
First of all big respect for the nose behind this scent mr. Jacques Cavallier but i think this one is not his best creation imo.
I always keep away from these types of scents.
Chemical,sweet,linear scent all the way, what you smell in the first seconds stays in later stage.
A darker evening scent.
There is always one guy wearing this when go out on a night out. (guys who like loud music,tuning sportscars ,tan in solariums and do bodybuilding i hope this will not get people mad its just what i see)
This perfume reminds me of my bf. The amber and earthy notes are great on his skin, I find UV very masculine and classy.
I really love this one!!! I had it and few of my close friends like to smell on me..lol..that's what we call the power of perfume..(*_^).
This smells purple xD I rly like purple btw :P
My most likely to use night perfume ever since launched, so sad to know it's hard to get these days. The counter sales person said Ultraviolet positioning currently replaced by One Million, but nothing could replace Ultraviolet to me :)
this smell really nice on me, from the first time i tried this,the magnetic smell attract me until today.
top notes smell so energetic and modern,middle notes is gorgeous and the base notes is simply masculine and sexy, long staying power and wonderful sillage.
In short - I got a sample of this , its nice n pleasant , wearable .....i would wear it too ...i wear mens frags sometimes ...BUT ,,,Im just a little underwelmed by this .
I was expecting something more "out there" from the name and image of Ultraviolet. It smells a lot more conservative and safer thaan it should IMO
Have you watched Blade Runner? Well, this is the kind of fragrance I imagine Deckard would wear if he went out clubbing with that chick who was a replicant. It's sensual olfactory bubblegum to be worn in a futuristic and oriental dystopia. Yeah, I know, I'm not sure what I mean either, but anyway..
Difficult to describe this scent in the ordinary moon/june note-breakdown way though, because Ultraviolet really is like no other. Please get hold of a sample just to get an idea of what I mean. It's definitely a love-it-or-hate-it one as Ultraviolet makes a virtue of its sythenticism (is that a word?). Erotic crayon with mint anyone? Well who knew! I don't often receive compliments for anything, let alone the scent I'm wearing, but I've had a fair few for this. No, it's not an everyday scent, and thank God for that!
i think this perfume is unisex because it smells very attractive on my friend.it fits to her.
initually i didnt like it because the top note is too sweet. smells like thick sugar syrup. but after wearing it a few times, i start to like the base notes.
ambery and little powdery. i wish the top note is not so sweet.
Oriental woody?no way.
Like Black xs the girls like the smell on me,but in my opinion there are a lot betters "oriental woody" colognes on the market,exemple Angel...
To be gentle the bottle is nice.
My boyfriend´s favourite one.. he loves this fragance.. and so do I.. its very pleasent..
I don't know why so many man have mix feelings about this perfume because in my opinion on a scale is is 8,5 of 10 ( both smell and lasting )
If you are a sporty man - THis is not a perfume for you
If you are a classic kinda of a guy - This perfume is not for you
If you are a guy that likes wood ( old man smell ) - Not for you
This perfume is addressed to a man that likes steeping away from the others , confident and sexy. A man that makes women smile when he passes by.
There's a reason why you have on this page on the left "Who likes this, also likes " ... to make a better understanding in witch category to put this perfume.
If you like Armani - Code , Paco Rabane -1 Million or Chanel - Allure then you will love Ultraviolet also
This is what my fiance said and i totally agree with him :D
I like Paco scents buh.....
Just received this today as a pressie and although I've had it on my list of want-to-try I would have thought it would be have been nicer tbh.
Its nice and sweet smelling, the mint I can barely get, but on my skin it just doesnt seem strong enough, and promptly disappears doh!
2 good sprays on the chest and 1 on the wrist and barely an hour later I nearly snorted me arm clear off tryna get a whiff lol..
If it was stronger and had even 4 hours staying power on my skin I'd keep it, as it is Im gonna ask if it can be returned and give her a few options to swap for tbh.
Close buh no ceegar Misturrr Rabanne ;-)
"Ultraviolet" is not the king of sillage and lasting power, but it's a nice sweet fragrance as long as it stays on the skin.
I find it pretty hard to described it, as I consider "Ultraviolet" one of the most synthetic fragrances that I know. But that's not a bad thing. The overall impression is a purple minty musk bubble gum. Very interesting if that's your cup of tea.
My boyfriend uses it and i like it...is not too heavy but is sexy..good for everyday usage
My boyfriend uses it and i like it...is not too heavy but is sexy..good for everyday usage
Cannot put a name to the scent, but it's just out of this world!
This is a great fragrance for guys my husband loves it and so do I it is refreshing and smells great anyone who doesn't like it hasn't given it a proper chance mind you everyones body chemistry is different it can smell great on someone and awful on another the bottle is really cool and so is the fragrance I agree with the last guys comment yes what else do you want girls love it isn't that the whole reason for buying a cologne come on you guys give it a go it's all good
Hmmm. Tested this on the store and wow, I was blown away..... by how it smells so weird! I never knew what "synthetic" smelled like, but when I got a whiff of this, dare I say this might just fit the bill quite adequately. It is sweet, yes. But for me, a fragrance can either be 'creamy/yummy' sweet or 'nauseous' sweet. Too bad Ultraviolet belongs to the latter for me.
Top: Sweet chemical
Heart: Sweet herbs
Base: Sweet powder
Overall: Offensively sweet! Just like how a cough syrup is excessively sweetened to hide the true medicinal taste to it, but you can still taste the bitterness anyway and the whole thing just tastes bad in the end.
I'll pass. Maybe I'm just the citrus kind of guy. ;P
First of all, I'm a women and I don't place a gender to any perfume. I hate it when designer put gender to their perfume. I wear anything that I like. In fact, I have few men perfume which smell very nice on a women. I love the sweetness in this perfume, add little woodsy. It's not aquatic kinda smell that I hate, but more citrus and wood. I usually use my boyfriend perfume, because he like the mild smell compared to hard heady woodsy notes like men perfume in early 90's. Many of men perfume today is much softer and attract me. Designer start to use flower, fruit and even vanilla for men perfume. That why I can wear then - mostly perfume with vanilla in it.
Okay, back to the perfume. Some men here are right. Yes,women loves it on a man. It make me wanna hugs my bf whole night and sniff his neck... such a turn on smell. Soft, but sexy. Mild, but spicy enough to make me go gaga. Sillage is good, longevity is okay - 5-6 hours.
p/s : the bottle is unique. I like it.
my boyfriend used to wear Ultraviolet and I loved it!!!it's the most sexy parfume for men I have ever smelt!it makes you want to smell it all the time :)
Excuse me I need to take another shower. This is very, very cloying!
An average sweet/woody fragrance, starts with a blast of citruses and minty notes then settles down to soft/sweet woody base. projection and longevity is average. Nothing extraordinary except the bottle.
I give it 6 out of 10
This is a tricky one. It is cloyingly sweet and the most synthetic smelling fragrance i have ever encountered. Yet it recieves the most compliments out of my entire collection.
Just a shame i dont enjoy it much.
UV by Paco Rabanne, its sweet oriental with slight woody at drydown, i deduct mint note from begging till end , its not transferable to much .
i found it classic , interesting worth to try (online cost +-30$ cool:), but its not very awesome, just OK.
i found it close to Gucci Pour Homme II , especially at drydown , both of them are blue.!!
longevity more than 4hour and with average sillage .
this is my favourite.
i think its a really nice scent when i wear it people comment on how nice it is .
i like the freshness of this.
Nice fragrance. Very fresh, sexy and peculiar.
I had a bottle about 2 years ago. It's kind of a teenager smell.
Not bad, but i also wouldn't buy another one.
its good, but i would not buy another bottle... long lasting and very original smell, like every Paco Rabanne fragrances...
All I get out of this nonfragrance is a
very linear and synthetic smelling salty ambergris note that goes on and on. The only decent thing about Ultraviolet for men is the bottle.
Heavy on the wood plus some harsh sythetic sweet. Weird, interesting, disturbing and hard to use. All together.
After second time that I tested it, I found nothing special in this ordinary and repetitive scent.
Longevity and sillage are about average and finally it's just another cologne!
بعد از دو سه بار که تستش کردم، چیز خاص و تاثیر گذاری توی این عطر ندیدم که قابل بیان باشه.
پخش و دوام بوی متوسطی هم داره
عطر برجسته ای نیست
love it on men and everytime when i buying a new perfume i have to sniff this before leaving
This really has to be one of the best fragrances from Paco Rabanne, going on to my second bottle now. It smells well nice on cold wintery days.
Pleasant smell but is starting a bit outdated, if you know what i mean.
The only attraction here is the brilliantly designed bottle.
The fragrance itself holds on for about fifteen minutes which doesn't even make it a decent room deodorant.
Irritating and musky like a spotty adolescent.
Very unsual sweet masculine perfume. Women love this perfum when is on the right skin. Tons of complements but a perfume that men do no prefer that much because of it's strange character. An interesting creation that should be considered as one of the best or one of the unigue perfumes. A must have for those that they want a full collection or all the types of perfumes. I do not see this to be a woody fragrance....Minty, refreshing, sweet...this is it's type.
A minty oriental for men that smells synthetic, but not in a bad way, but to evoke urban life. It is very sensual, very clean, the bottle is excellent and ladies love it. A getter if you like orientals and you want one to wear in the morning. It is very refreshing.
if you want to smell like no-one else wherever you go,this is the one to put on.very unique fragrance.
Smells good at first but then becomes very synthetic. This one can give you a serious headache, so best is to test it first and then buy it.
I liked the concept of this one so much that I jumped up and down when I saw this one at the mall. Too bad, the smell was not what I expected. The combination of amber and mint smell really weird and unpleasant, then it dry down to this average sweet smell, nothing much and not worth buying. Thumb up for the concept, the bottle, the ad. Thumb down for the scent itself!
Very refreshing. Mint and woody notes are perfectly composed. Sweet, but in specific way, long lasting, but close to skin. Ideal to wear in summer to get refresh, instead of classic citrus fragrances.
I just dont get how you guys came up with an idea to sort it in oriental woody category. There is absolutely nothing woody about this one. I think PR matched parfume colour and its scent perfectly, cause it reminds me of blueberry, and if I didnt know it was called ultraviolet, I would simply guess this is the colour of this parfume.
This fragrance still keeps intricate to me. At the first half of the bottle (100ml) it was sweet, but not sweet like candy or fruit, a different kind of sweet i´ve never smell before, like a "mineral sweet" if I can discribe like this. And this is what I loved too much in this perfume, so different, so unique, soft, fresh, mineral, smells really like the colors of the pictures above. But the second half lost this scent and becomes less actrative. I bought a second flask with 50ml and sadlly can´t detect the first smell I loved then, now it smells like the second half of the 100ml bottle... I can´t understand why... I´m thinking in buy a new 100 ml flask and test again.
Actually its not a woody oriental.
Well, at last I think its a good fragrance for man, very different from all others I have tried before.
A dominantly Amber scent, a slightly dry Amber. It's not a typical 'Woody Oriental", there is no wood in this at all (the Vetiver is undetectable), and absolutely nothing oriental about it. I can detect some mint for about the first 5 minutes, then it's just lots of Amber after that. The Amber is very strong and semi-sweet. The mint smells like freshly picked mint leaves. It's not like mint candy, as in some scents, it still smells fresh and green for it's short life. Since the mint is up against Amber it is easily and quickly overpowered by it.
Any Vetiver or Mossy notes in Ultraviolet Man are supporting notes only. It's casual wear, I enjoy spritzing some on once in a while if I'm going to be staying at home.
Something which really strikes you right from the start is that this scent is obviously synthetic from start to finish. My apologies to fans of this fragrance, but the from the top notes to the middle notes, I always get this synthetic smell of "crayons".
To be fair, I've tried this fragrance on myself about 5 times, and I only started disliking the scent from around my 4th try onwards. My very first impression of the scent when I first tried it was that it smelled very uniquely feminine. In fact I think its uniqueness lends this scent a lot of its credit. The tag "ultraviolet" really fits the character of the scent - metrosexual, almost androgynous, outlandish, creative, and crying out for attention.
The opening is really sweet, I get lots of honey from the top notes. There isn't really much development from top to middle notes, but eventually it dries down to something spicy, but still sweet. Do not put on too much of this though, cos the sillage is quite powerful, and the smell can get quite annoying and "in your face" if done wrongly.
it is very sweet and relaxing..
the combination is wonderful and gives you a good feeling
women really love it,, actully men like it
I support it
this smell just 2 synthetic! to sweet and the notes r just keep going on sweetness and very simple! very strange from Paco Rabanne!
Very interesting combination. I just wish it could last longer on my skin... :(
hmm... nice nice... can agree:-)
I can't believe, there are no comments about Paco Rabanne's best men's fragrance. This is manly perfume but also untypical soft for oriental woody fragrances. Women love it, and what do you need more?
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CHEYENNE -- State schools Superintendent Cindy Hill's response to two subpoenas for information with thousands of irrelevant and unorganized documents shows she isn't cooperating with a special committee's investigation into her management of the Wyoming Education Department, state House Speak Tom Lubnau said Friday.
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Mount Maunganui's Phoenix carpark is to be reborn into a trendy "urban green space" that could feature fountains, gardens and an outdoor movie area.
The Tauranga City Council yesterday voted to include a proposal to redevelop the carpark in the draft 2014/2015 Annual Plan; a move which has the backing of local retailers and developers but has raised concerns over a possible parking shortage ahead of summer.
The green space is an alternative to a previous joint venture proposal to build more shops at the site. The retail hub was originally planned as a way to ease some of council's debt but was considered unprofitable. Council staff recommended the site be transformed into an inner-city green space.
Development funding contribution in the draft 2014/2015 Annual Plan would be used for the purchase of the front area of the Phoenix carpark site.
Mount developer Bain McDonald, who introduced the proposal to the council this year, spoke again yesterday, saying the space would become a venue for a "wide variety" of community activities.
"The park will also draw people to the Mount and keep them there," he said. "This proposal is not a playground. This is a place to relax, a place for activities, markets, concerts, outdoor movies and so on.
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Mr McDonald favoured a design competition to seek the best concept.
Councillors Catherine Stewart and Rick Curach raised issues surrounding the project, including carparking shortages.
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Mayor Stuart Crosby told the Bay of Plenty Times the council would set up a programme of community consultation over summer, when the Mount was busy with locals and visitors.
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Last week, Stanford University in California received a very nice present indeed. It was cash, an extraordinarily large amount of it. A former professor in the computer department had given his old campus $150m - the largest donation made to the university, with the exception of its founding grant that came from Leland Stanford in 1891. It will pay for a biomedical research building.
Last week, Stanford University in California received a very nice present indeed. It was cash, an extraordinarily large amount of it. A former professor in the computer department had given his old campus $150m - the largest donation made to the university, with the exception of its founding grant that came from Leland Stanford in 1891. It will pay for a biomedical research building.
The one-time professor was Jim Clark. His motives for signing so generous a cheque can easily be guessed. Not a man noted for looking back - indeed, his whole being is dedicated to looking into the future - even he may have some nostalgia for Stanford. Within its walls he and his students engineered a chip that was to launch him on the career that made one of America's richest businessmen. And, surely, he gave the money because everyone likes a philanthropist. Giving is admirable. Or Mr Clark may have simply felt in need of public recognition.
Alongside Bill Gates or Larry Ellison of Oracle, he is almost invisible. He is a not a magazine cover boy. But Mr Clark, who is 55, has come an awfully long way since leaving the poverty of his childhood home in Texas, where he flunked in high school and was remembered primarily for his rebellious pranks, like smuggling a skunk in a box into class. For one thing, James H. Clark has that fortune, worth $3bn by the last reckoning. All right, he still trails Mr Gates. But in some ways, he makes Mr Gates seem like a stick-in-the-mud.
Mr Clark is the only man in American history to have founded three billion-dollar corporations, all in Silicon Valley. They are Silicon Graphics, now SGI, Netscape, recently bought by America Online, and Healthion. He also happens to have built a remarkable sailing schooner called Hyperion, stuffed with enough computer power to allow Mr Clark to sail it across San Francisco Bay from a keyboard in his office. That's the theory . Hyperion is no dinghy. It measures 155ft and has the world's tallest sailing mast. Mr Clark, in other words, is a thoroughly under-examined individual. Fortunately, we now have a chance to know him better, thanks to the American journalist Michael Lewis.
Mr Lewis began his adult life as a trader on Wall Street and became so engrossed in the weirdness of its culture, he turned around and skewered all who lived in it in his best-seller, Liar's Poker. Now, he has just finished another, not entirely dissimilar marathon of reporting. It is called The New New Thing and has been published in the US, to mostly glowing reviews.
His chosen locale is Silicon Valley. If Wall Street was the place in the early Eighties where the money was being made, the Valley has been the place in this decade. In fact, those young bucks of the Street of almost two decades ago were making chump change alongside the mega-fortunes minted every day in the gentle hills south of San Francisco.
The challenge for Mr Lewis when he approached the project was how to capture what the Valley is and how it has changed the way all of us live. Many before him have tried only to find that the lucky folk who make all that money can often be fearfully boring. Geeks are not usually fodder for drama. He wanted also to illustrate what he describes in the early pages of the book as the transition that has occurred from Part One to Part Two of the Silicon Valley Story. Part One had been "about engineers building machines, cheaper, faster, and better. They built them so fast and so cheap that, commercially speaking, they made themselves uninteresting". Part Two opened in the early Nineties when the "engineers had figured out they didn't need to build new computers to get rich; they just had to cook up new things for the computers to do. The thrill was in the concepts, the concepts were the recipes".
Mr Lewis's salvation came with the discovery of a man who was neither boring nor, by any stretch of the imagination, could be described as peripheral to the Valley narrative. This was Jim Clark. To Mr Lewis, Clark appeared to embody all that he wanted to say about Parts One and Two and the seismic ripples the Valley continues to radiate around the world economy.
He puts it like this: Jim Clark is to Silicon Valley what Silicon Valley is to the rest of America. The Valley has more than once jolted the American economy with so much electricity that it was never to look the same again. The chip did it, so did the PC, then the Internet. At different times, Jim Clark has similarly jolted the Valley. Most importantly, in Mr Clark he saw the energy and the yearning so characteristic of the place: the obsessive quest always for the next discovery, for what lies just beyond the horizon that only the latest technology can reveal, the new new thing that will trigger the next economic and social earthquake (and unleash yet one more tsunami of cash for all involved in harnessing it.)
"His psyche was a magic show," Mr Lewis writes of Mr Clark, "and this was its favourite trick: no matter how long he'd been around, he could behave as if he'd just arrived".
Ironically, it was tragedy - a bullet in a man's brain - that brought Mr Lewis to Mr Clark. He had heard that Glenn Mueller, one of the Valley's most successful venture capitalists and the first serious investor in Silicon Graphics back in 1981, had shot himself in 1994 because Mr Clark had refused to accept him as an investor in his new baby then, Netscape. Apparently, Mr Mueller had pleaded on the telephone with Mr Clark one more time to change his mind, to no avail.
Mr Clark told a shocked Mr Lewis the story was true. From that moment Mr Clark found himself the prism through which Mr Lewis would view his true subject, the Valley. "When I met Clark, all of a sudden it was like the discovery of electricity in my brain," says Mr Lewis. "I realised he might be all I needed as a character through which to tell the story."
Mr Clark, unsurprisingly, is unsure about the portrait that emerges from the book's pages. If Mr Lewis has him right, he is not a man many of us would choose to take along on a camping holiday. He feels irritation more intensely than most humans. Is he eccentric or, in fact, nuts? (How many corporate titans do you know who like to spend their free time building and flying toy helicopters?)
His sense of mischief sometimes seems like pure peevishness. There was, for instance, the deep dislike harboured by Mr Clark for Ed McCracken, brought in from Hewlett-Packard to run Silicon Graphics. One day, Mr Clark removed the name plaque from Mr McCracken's office and replaced it with another that read Ed McMuffin. It made Mr Clark feel better.
Ultimately, it is impossible to resist the conclusion that what really drives Mr Clark is greed - for more billions. "It's very difficult to see myself in print," he said after looking at the book. "It's not a flattering portrayal, but I suppose it's balanced and reasonably fair. I think Michael is an incredibly funny, talented person. He is so bloody observant that you can't spend time with him and hide who you are."
The wealth began in the lab at Stanford, nursery for Mr Clark's firstborn, Silicon Graphics. With his students he developed a chip he called the Geometry Engine. This was technology ahead of its time - the chip allowed someone at a computer keyboard to create three-dimensional objects on the screen. As someone later wrote, it was akin to reinventing the radio to emit not just sounds but aromas.
With his students, he tried to sell this amazing technology under license to companies including IBM and Xerox. Nobody was interested, so he created Silicon Graphics. It was dedicated to producing work stations fitted with the "Geometry Engine". The phenomenal success that was soon to be Silicon Graphics was fueled in part by the special effects experts from Hollywood. Mr Clark's gizmos brought us the all-dancing dinosaurs in Jurassic Park and the space ships in George Lucas's Star Wars. The quest to recreate living things on computers - virtual reality - has driven Mr Clark since. But by the early Nineties, he had been sidelined in his own company, largely by "McMuffin". And he found distraction in an ambitious project to build what he called the Telecomputer.
He envisioned a world where every US householder would have a new kind of television that would be interactive. A set-top box, equipped with his chips, would give the viewer the ability, for instance, to communicate with broadcasters and order up what he wanted to see and any particular time.
Mr Clark found some funding from Time-Warner, but the millions spent on the Telecomputer were wasted. The consumer was never interested and in December 1994, Mr Clark gave up on Silicon Graphics and walked out.
Then came the really crucial moments. At about the same time, he made contact with a 22-year-old graduate from the University of Illinois named Marc Andreesen. With other students, Mr Andreesen had written a piece of software called Mosaic that could roam around something called the Internet. "All of a sudden it was clear to me when I looked at the Internet I was looking at the personal computer in 1985," says Mr Clark. "It was this slow, clunky technology but people were using it. And it would get faster. I realised this was the thing I had been groping for."
He also knew a certain Bill Gates, up in Washington State, had yet to experience the same epiphany. This was his opportunity to get a jump on Microsoft. He took it by forming what he at first called Mosaic Communications then renamed Netscape. The browser wars were beginning.
As Mr Lewis relates it, with Netscape, Mr Clark leaped headlong into the brave new Internet world and left the industry running down the wrong tunnel, towards his doomed Telecomputer. "Within six months, he had made them all look like fools," Mr Lewis writes. "It was one of the great unintentional head fakes in the history of technology."
Eighteen months after starting Netscape - helped by $3m of his own money - Mr Clark did something that had profound historical importance. He demanded Netscape be turned over to the public in an initial public offering or IPO. Mr Lewis says that spawned our current obsession with Internet IPOs and overturned all the old rules of capitalism and market flotations.
Netscape had not made a bean of profit. But Mr Clark became the first to see that in this new world, it was not past performance of a company that would attract investors but the promise of what was to come.
In this entirely new paradigm "the perception of success led to success", says Mr Lewis. "You had to show you were the company not of the present but of the future. The most appealing companies became those in a state of pure possibility". Look no further than Amazon.com.
By the end of 1995, Mr Clark was moving on again, leaving Netscape to his anointed CEO, Jim Barksdale. And something else important happened to him then - he was diagnosed with a rare blood disease that took him back to hospital every few weeks or so for treatment.
Mr Clark was shocked by the extent of the bureaucracy that ruled hospitals. With every visit there were more forms to be filled out. From that experience was born his next corporation, Healthion. Healthion provides the software enabling everybody in the health industry - doctors, hospital administrators, insurers and patients - to streamline all the information they need using the Internet, cutting costs massively. It was a need to finance Healthion that drove Mr Clark to insist on the rapid flotation of Netscape.
British readers will be intrigued, if not infuriated, by Mr Lewis's description of the first attempts made last autumn to sell Healthion to investors. The effort flopped, although Healthion floated with phenomenal success at the second try this spring. The first attempt, began with an IPO roadshow (when the company tries to sell the deal to institutions) that started off in Europe. That allowed the team to warm up before returning to America, which really mattered.
"Europe was a place to open not because it had a lot of money managers dying to invest in new technology companies but because it didn't," says Mr Lewis. "Europeans were famously clueless about new things, not mention new new things. You could flop in Europe and Europeans would never know."
Healthion is still finding its way, but once again, the money from its IPO in his bank, Mr Clark is moving on. His project is called MyCFO.com and has to do with helping the extremely rich manage their wealth using the Internet - to become richer. Which is what Mr Clark has been doing through this parade of IPOs.
Mr Lewis says he once reminded Mr Clark of his promise to retire once he had reached one billion. Mr Clark said he had changed his mind.
"I want to make more money than Larry Ellison. Then I'll stop," he said. What about overtaking Bill Gates? "Oh, no," says Mr Clark. Then he paused. "You know just for one moment, I would kind of like to have the most. Just for one tiny moment." No doubt.Reuse content


text: This is a diary of a trip done in 2007 with landrovers, some info not relevant, but some may help people thinking of going, hope this is OK. We normally do this trip in three days, with two overnight stops.Dover to Calais, then france, Belgium, luxembourg for the first stay at a good hotel. Hotels are easily found in Luxembourg, but hotels with off street parking are not! After a good nights sleep and a hearty breakfast, we normally travel in to Germany and then to Austria for our second nights rest at a hotel in the Alps, the hotel we usually stay at never fails to impress people. Again, a good nights rest and a breakfast, and we are off on the last leg of the journey, through Austria, then italy, Slovenia, and finally arriving in Croatia.We normally average about 300 miles a day with plenty of breaks, But, this time, we decided because we had things to do when we arrived in Croatia, we would do the trip in two days! We crossed the channel and headed for Luxembourg to fill our tanks(and jerry cans) with some of the cheapest diesel in europe, then drove on to Stuttgart for our overnight stay.In the morning, we hit the road early after brekky, and gave a good account of ourselves on the autobahns.After a few "comfort " breaks, we were crossing the border into italy then quickly, Slovenia and Croatia, arriving a bit tired to say the least at about eight pm. Our first day in Croatia saw us head for Porec a lovely town on the Adriatic coast with its shops, cobbled streets and cracking restuarants, very similar to Italy,but without the hassle.We enjoyed a good meal and watched the street entertainment until bedtime. The second day, we headed offroad to one of the small uncrowded beaches. We parked the landies on the beach (yup, on the beach) and sunbathed and swam until evening, when we headed home and washed and changed.That evening we went to a resturant owned by the sister of one of Croatia,s top offroaders.We ordered our food and drinks, and to our surprise, the service was a little slower than usual, then we realised why, Croatia were playing Brazil in the world cup and it was on the tv in the next room! Unfortunatly, Croatia lost, but our service and meal was still better than most other places. Our third day saw us getting on with what we came out here for, doing some more laning. We headed for Hum, the smallest city in the world, perched up on the side of a rocky hill. Its a place worth visiting, with writings on the wall in a langage that predates latin! We then headed to Kotli, where there is a water wheel fed by several waterfalls that bounce in and out of shallow pools on the way down, I climbed down and gave my feet a good cooling off while taking photo,s. We tavelled on through loads of tiny villiages going up and down steep valley, most off the time i was in low box as the ground was mostly shale, the missus was gripping the dash going down some of the hills.We probably did abut thirty miles off road, travelling through farmyards, fields and crossing unmanned level crossings, then we came across a natural dam on a river, where we saw about twenty or thirty teenagers swimming, so we stopped. As with most places in Croatia, we parked by the river and joined the kids to see what the area was like, its been noted for future times, but what struck all of us, was that all of these kids were just swimming, dancing to the ,music from an accordion played by one of the group, and there was,nt a drop of drink or any waccy baccy in sight! We stayed in that night, ordering a takeway and chilling out ready for the next days adventures. Its worth saying here, that the cost of eating and drinking in Croatia is very reasonable. The food is similar to meditaranean food, with plenty of choice and a good meal for two with drink cost,s around 200 kuna,s (£20), you can snack on pizza, cakes, fruit, and beer and wine are more than cheap enough, especially if bought from the farmers and you take your own bottle! But, please, its not Spain, they love the English but the government have decided its not going to become an "all day breakfast" and "cheap english beer" country, they welcome all tourist,s, even offroaders, but are aiming for tourist,s who travel to broaden their knowledge not their beer bellies! Day four saw us taking a trip to the island of Cres, a twenty minute ferry ride from Rijeka. If you like driving along mountain roads with sheer drops to your right and spectacular views across the bays, then this trip is a must. as we neared Rijeka, the number of motorbikes passing us increased, this is because the roads leading to and on Cres are loved by bikers all over Europe, it was a bit of a treat to see about ten German riders on Harley Davisons roaring off the ferry, shame about the obligatory moustaches! We loafed around in the harbour, watched the fishing boats come in and out, and enjoyed lunch at one of the many waterside cafes. In the evening, we travelled back, but stopped at a ranch in a place called Tinjan, a proper olde worlde restuarant with big wooden slab tables and chairs and a veranda overlooking the forest. On day five, i had to go back into Porec to collect a baseball hat that was being made for me at a shop there, it was being embroidered with my name and , shall we say, a well known logo!. We had a bit more of a mooch around and then went for coffee at a cafe owned by "Bruce Willis". Thats not his real name, but a nickname due to his resemblance to the movie star.Bruce Willis ownes four 90,s all in various states of repair and was negotiating to buy a disco while we were there, so you can guess the main topic of conversation. When we dragged ourselves away from there, we called at a resort named Funtana. Funtana has a hotel and all of the facilities that european visitors could ask for, one other benefit is that they do not stop non guest,s enjoying the facilites.There is an excellent beach area, a sheltered section for kids, speedboat hire, pedalo,s etc etc and a cafe that does cheeseburgers the size of frisbee,s! So far the weather has been hot and sunny, fluctuating just under 80f, so we decided to have an evening chilling out back at the house with a barbeque, and watch the sunset over the woods behind us. Just a little extra info, from Porec, you can take a high speed catamaran to Venice.The trip takes about two hours, then you can wander at your leisure around St Marks square and all of the tiny alleys filled with shops selling everything you can think of. Just a tip though, Venice is Italian and the italians are masters at the art of tourist fleecing!, you will not get any bargains in Venice but if youve never been there, or want a romantic day out with your partner you may want to go.When you get there, if you fancy something to eat and drink, the rule is, the further out from St Marks Sq you go, the cheaper it gets! The trip cost,s about £45 per person, so like Ive said, only go if Venice is on your list of things to do before you die, or your partner tells you to! The Croatian people are warm and friendly, and on my visits ive not found a bad one, they welcome tourist,s and accomodate them well, if you walk past a shop, and someone starts to show you their wares, they are probably Italian or German, not Croatian. In the tourist areas near the seafront,s, the shops close very late at night, the steet entertainers go home when you do, and you can sit, unhurried at all of the restuarants, cafes and bars till the small hours. Just a word of warning, ive had people tell me horror stories after having been out there with some so called tour operators. The fact that you are supplying your own transport and not booking through a "high street travel agent" leaves you open to all sorts of risk,s , but you need not take them! The first thing is the ferry across the channel, any decent tour operator will have spaces booked well in advance, to be able to negotiate a discount if nothing else.Some of the excursions should also be prepaid, again, for the above reasons.Your accomodation should be known to you before you part with any money, that incudes during your stay, and on the journey out and back.If a tour operator does not insist on seeing a copy of your breakdown insurance, and advise you that in now takes a couple of weeks to get an E11 card, and advise you to take out at least the basic health insurance..........I,d be very wary! Most tour operators will advertise "a support vehicle", thats o.k., but that vehicle will not replace yours if you break down on day three of your holiday, nor will it get yours repatriated, and when you think that the cost of that could well exceed the value of your car, you can see the sense in it.Finally, anyone who takes money from another person for a holiday should be "Bonded", that puts it under the care of a regulatory body...........You have been warned! Day seven saw us back on the beach with the cars having a picnic and watching the sailing enthusiast,s enjoying their sport. Every sort of water craft was there, from small dinghy,s with outboards to large sailing boats, and the type of criusers you see in ports all over the world where money does,nt seem to be an object.The adriatic coast is littered with small islands and inlets which make it a favourite for sailors, beutifull clear warm water, secluded mooring and a hot sun........it did seem to entice a lot of them to take their clothes off though, normally the ones who should have left them on! The eigth day was a men only day.his was due to the fact that we were going to explore a forest region near the Slovenan border. The area is vast!, we did at least eighty miles of laning through thick forest land, driving up steep tracks with sheer drops to one side, dodging lumber that had recently been felled, and looking with disbelief at banks of snow still lying on the side of shaded gulleys. The area is so big, that we only touched a part of it, even though we were driving it for probably six hours! We only met one other car all day, a couple of forestry worker.s drove past just as we had stopped to investigate the entrance to another track.Unfortunatly, i did not see any bears, but one thing that did strike me was, as we came to a clearing, there was a long meadow running up to the tree line.It looked like a scene out of "Little house On The Prairie", but the smell really hit you, a mix of pine, grass and woodland flowers.....i,n not normally impressed by such things , but that I,ll remember. We were using a garmin GPS unit linked to a laptop to pinpoint the tracks and log driveable ones for future use by the friend i was with.I definatly would,nt enter this area without at least that sort of back up,plus the usual overnight bag, plenty of food and water and a c.b. radio or better means of communication, it would be near suicidal to try to drive these tracks in the dark, so getting lost late afternoon would be cause for concern.But, we made it back, and are planning another jaunt in a couple of days to show the ladies and explore some more. Ive covered about 1500 miles with the disco 2 so far and i has,nt missed a beat. Ive kept up with the defender and been everwhere it has been. It probably could do with a bit more whoosh for some of the long mountain climbs, but when i think of the fuel consumption I,m getting, I think its a case of "if it aint broke, don,t fix it". On day nine, we crossed the border into Slovenia to visit the caves at ********. These caves are world famous due to their size and the different make up of the various galleries in them. You actually travel by train for two kilometers down into them, then take a tour on foot for another two kilometers, and then a train ride for the last two! They are amazing to see with all of the different formations and are lit well.One of the galleries is used as a concert hall on special occassions, the tour takes about one and a half hours in total, and the temperature underground was VERY cool indeed, a welcome break from the heat above ground. More border hopping saw us back in Croatia for an evening meal and a few drinks.We walked around the town of Porec again, stopping at various bars for a slice of pizza and a drink, nearly all of the bars and restuarants have tables outside, and because of the world cup, also had wide screens set up so that diners could enjoy the matches. We actually say on a wall outside a cafe waiting for friends and saw the start of the england/sweden game and a waiter came over to turn up the sound for us! As we continued our roving dinner at other establishments, many more people were glued to the screens while eating and drinking.At the end of englands less than impressive performance,everyone.......english, swedes, croatians, italians and germans, just carried on eating and drinking, no bad behaviour, no shouting or drunken silliness! As we walked back to our car, we passed a company who advertise offroading trips out here.Their three Lada,s painted up in black and white stripes were proudly displayed just off the main street. The black and white striping mystified me a bit as ive not come across any zebra,s while out here, as did the ramsey 5000lb winch that was interchangeable across the three cars, along with the thinnest winch cable ive seen for a long while,....but hey, that enough of being bitchy. I did consider for a moment, contacting him and offering to sell him three decent winches, but then worked out that the cost of these would probably match what he had paid for the cars! As with in england, there is a big differece out her between "offroading" and "laning". There are thousands of miles of "white roads", which are compacted mud with a white shale on them, they are great to drive and take you through small villiages , forest,s, and into small bays and inlets all over the region. There are also "red roads", these normally branch off of the white roads and are mud tracks that lead to farms or lesser visited places, these are what i define as "lanes" . As pointed out by an ardent offroader from Slovenia when he saw a picture of a car on on of these white roads, "the wheels are still on a track, that,s not offroading" Knowing his experience in these matters, i agree with him totally. Much the same rules apply out here for offroading as do back home, if you are offroad, you are probably on someones property! The farmers grow grapes, olives tomatoes and ALL of their own vegetables and a lot of fruit, I,d hate to hazard a guess what they would do if they saw a few landies ploughing through the last two months work! There IS good offroading to be had out here, there are competitions attended by offroaders from all over europe and once they decide to pay a visit to our shores, they will upset the "leader board" quite a bit, BUT, i,d never stray offroad without a good local guide, ...much the same as at home really! Day eleven.....the end is getting close, Today we went in search of a bear sanctuary high up in the forest,s about two hours drive away. Once we got off the tarmac, the roads were a bloody hoot! big time. One minute we were on white road, then mud track, then forest track,and all climbing up to a hiegth of about 500mtrs above sea level with scary drops on both sides. At one point, we had to wait for forestry workers to clear a path for us due to a heavy fall of rocks from the cliffs to our left.......can,t see that happening in snowdonia. We kept seeing signs for the bears, but stopped for a picnic, then carried on our search. After about four hours of driving round the forest,( all different tracks), we gave up and headed for home.......we suspect that we had been driving through the bear sanctuary all the time, even while having our picnic! We stopped at a roadside cafe on the way back for some refreshments, and just did,nt have time to visit a nearby cove where a german ship is sank, apparently its a favourite place for divers from all over the world, so back to base and an evening meal and bed! Well thats about it, ive got to spend day twelve sorting out a squeeking brake pad, (too much dust) cleaning the car, and generally getting ready for the trip home.Weve clocked up just on 2000 miles so far, with another 1000 to get us back. The disco has performed very well so far, with less trips to the fuel pumps than i anticipated, and no unexpected happenings (shhh touch wood). Anyone who facies coming out this way will not be dissapointed, Croatia holds more than enough to suit all tastes and gives good value for money.The down sides are few, and can be overcome. Driving in this part of the world is easy to get used to, but Croatian driving takes a little longer.They do not like to see car in front of them, going slower than they want to go! So, whether its on a straight stretch of road or a blind bend on a mountain climb, they WILL overtake........causing you to brake so that they can get in when another car threatens to hit them head on! Its a bit scary at first, but you soon get used to it. Police speed traps are as common as they are in England, so it pays to keep your speed down and have ALL your documents with you......or they fine you for each item you don,t have! This is our second trip out here, and weve enjoyed it both times, if youve got a car, and don,t mind driving it......eastern europe can give you an adventure holiday with a difference, next year we are possibly going to Romania, maybe Slovena, or it could end up being Portugal! Due to forum rules, I have left out anything than could be construed as advertisng, I have also obviously, only added a few of the many photos and videos we took, but if anyone wants more info on anything, e


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Office for iPad?
Paul Goodwin
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Yeah. I was really happy with Ofice for Mac 2004… Didn't. Really want to upgrade. Just hope MS doesn't port the redesigned menus and button organization nightmare they created on the PC version
If cloud computing is the real wave of the future, it would seem that an iPad user interface to an iCloud fully Office compatible app would be the way to go.
Would be good that some enterprises can re-engineer their processes without the need of the complicated MSOffice, outgunning their competitors with cheaper IT costs. Why do ordinary folks need to learn how to use a complicated spreadsheet? If need be, can't SIRI help? He is a good virtual assistant right?
Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish. - Steve Jobs
Paul Goodwin
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Most people don't need the full power of Office for sure. But getting industry to switch is nearly impossible because they would all have to switch at once. IT departments are always looking for ways to not pay the license fees to Microsoft, but it's so engrained in big business that it's going to take a long time to change. I worked for a large conglomerate for many years and I know they were always trying to replace Office, but never could.
I would think that the iPad version of Office or a cloud-based version with an iPad interface could be somewhat simplified, because the power Office users aren't likely to be creating the complex documents on the iPad. A MacBook Air would be a better choice for mobility. The iPad version would have to be very capable as a viewer of documents, and some limitations for editing of the extremely complex documents would be acceptable given the true reason the iPad sells. It's a fantastic portable viewer and portal with some editing capability. More is better, but I don't think it needs to be the equivalent of a desktop machine with MS Office.
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It's a positive for Apple and neutral for Microsoft much like many of Apple's partnerships. Look at how Foxconn made basically nothing this year on iphone manufacturing or how Sprint stock is getting hammered.
Apple is leaving these companies no choice. US Cellular was the first carrier to reject the iphone due to onerous terms however the results of not having it are probably even worse.
It may very well be the best ever but it still takes me 3x as long to do stuff with Excel for Mac 2011 than it does with Excel for Windows. It's just crippling when you need to do a ton of data manipulation and calculations. Not a big deal for most people so it's largely irrelevant. But to get enterprise to really ever shift to Mac Excel for Mac will need to get MUCH better. I was talking to teh Controller at my company about it (he's also a big AAPL believer and investor) and he agrees that Excel 2011 for Mac still isn't good enough for enterprise use and he doesn't think it will be for a long time. I agree. But it doesn't matter. Apple has massive headroom with the Mac even without enterprise.
I've been around a lot of controllers, and in my experience, their knowledge of Excel hardly qualifies them as an judge of this software. They typically put it to pedestrian uses that might even be handled by Numbers if they made an attempt to learn it. I get the familiarity thing with keystrokes, but that really shouldn't be the basis for disqualifying it. In any event, the reviews of Office for 2011 for Mac are uniformly solid.
I use VBA, pivot tables, conditional formatting, etc. in Excel, so I'm not a casual user of it (and I'm not suggesting you are). I still don't like the the calendar/date issues between the versions, but I'm hoping to cease using the PC version altogether. I'm looking to use the PC less and less and wish I didn't have to rely on enterprise software that requires Winblows. Finally, I MUCH prefer working on Mac hardware, as it inspires me, offering qualities of pleasing design and the caliber of the fit and finish. They're also more reliable, but this isn't really a PC vs. Mac thread, I hope!


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Self-portait from his wikipedia page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Warren
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