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Kim Dotcom's heavily pregnant wife has made her first public appearance since her husband was arrested in a raid at their rented luxury mansion.
Dressed in black, Mona Dotcom sat in the gallery next to her husband as his freedom was argued at the High Court at Auckland yesterday.
At times the couple held hands during the proceedings in the cramped courtroom.
They have been back together for less than a week after Dotcom was granted bail last Wednesday.
The Crown, on behalf of the US Government, has appealed that decision.
German-born Dotcom, 38, is accused, with three other men, of breaching international copyright laws to the value of US$500 million ($595 million) through Megaupload, the file-sharing site he founded.
Crown prosecutor Anne Toohey yesterday told the court Dotcom was still a flight risk.
She said two bank accounts had been discovered since the last hearing and there was still a risk of Dotcom getting illegal travel documents.
Dotcom's lawyer, Paul Davison QC, said his client would spend 25 weeks in jail if the court reversed the decision.
Mr Davison said his client had no more money available to him and had no intention of going back to Germany.
Justice Tim Brewer will deliver his decision today.


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Funding Authorities & Asset Management - Funding authority responsibilities are divided into two general categories 1) physical non-movable assets including buildings and their permanently attached equipment (commonly referred to as hard wired and hard plumbed), utilities, and grounds 2) moveable equipment. See FAMIS Building and Land Entity Funding List 401307 for a complete list of the funding authorities responsible to fund all work on Western Washinton University buildings, grounds, and utility systems. If Western Washington University is not on the title it is not listed or maintained by University employees. Utility systems are not listed as facilities or land entities in FAMIS, but as Equipment. See FAMIS Asset Management Tiered Approach. The FAMIS Building and Land Entity Funding List 401307 shows which funding authority funds utility maintenance for the utility systems within each land entity. See FAMIS Funding Authorities Report Date 11-07-12 for a list of the funding authorities within FAMIS.
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Canon announces PowerShot N Facebook ready edition
Canon has created a 'Facebook ready' variant of its social-media-focused PowerShot N digital camera. The 'Facebook ready' version will only be available directly from Canon (in the US, at least) and has a dedicated Facebook connect button in the place of the connect-to-device one on the standard N. Once the camera has been taught your login details, you can upload images with a choice of who gets to see them, once posted. The 1/2.3" 12MP sensor camera will cost $299.
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Melville, N.Y., August 22, 2013 – To address the popular trend of instantly sharing photos and videos with family and friends, Canon U.S.A., Inc., a leader in digital imaging solutions, today announced a new version of its uniquely designed PowerShot N digital camera – the PowerShot N Facebook ready digital camera. A Canon Direct exclusive, the PowerShot N Facebook ready digital camera features a convenient Facebook Connect Button that supports instant sharing of crisp, clear images and videos to users' Facebook accounts.
Helping people's creativity shine through, the PowerShot N Facebook ready digital camera's Creative Shot mode automatically creates a series of five artistic photos along with the original for an array of options that are ready to impress. With the convenient Facebook Connect Button and Wi-Fi® technology, the PowerShot N Facebook ready digital camera connects the camera directly to users' Facebook accounts, so they can upload, comment and share their most creative, detailed images while on-the-go.
In addition to offering powerful artistic and connectivity functions, the PowerShot N Facebook ready digital camera features a 2.8-inch capacitive, tilt-touch panel LCD, allowing users to capture creative images at unique angles. With a shutter and zoom ring, both located around the lens, images can be snapped easily from the top or bottom of the ring so the perfect shot is always within reach.
The PowerShot N Facebook ready digital camera offers an 8x optical zoom and a 28mm wide-angle lens, packaged with a 12.1-megapixel High-Sensitivity CMOS sensor and DIGIC 5 Image Processor. Users can also record high-quality 1080p Full HD video with a dedicated movie button. With Hybrid Auto users can automatically create a composite video of brief clips that are recorded while taking photos to give a creative overview of a day's activities. The PowerShot N Facebook ready's Face ID system allows for the camera to automatically recognize and focus on familiar faces. In addition, Canon's Intelligent IS System allows the camera to automatically select the optimal image stabilization settings according to the shooting conditions, taking the guesswork out of identifying the ideal setting for each unique shot.
"At Canon, we are continually working to improve the way users share their photos and videos," said Yuichi Ishizuka, executive vice president and general manager, Imaging Technologies & Communications Group, Canon U.S.A. "The new PowerShot N Facebook ready digital camera, with the Facebook Connect Button, opens up a new dimension of photographic sharing and expression to help people showcase their personal style and creative flair with powerful innovative Canon technologies."
Convenient Sharing with the Facebook Connect Button
To make sure users can instantly share photos and videos with family and friends, the PowerShot N Facebook ready digital camera now features a convenient Facebook Connect Button. After an initial one-time set-up, pressing the new Facebook Connect Button links the camera to the users' Facebook account for quick and easy sharing. Users can also control the destination of their Facebook uploads by choosing to share content with everyone, or to select Facebook groups.
Wi-Fi Connectivity for Easy Sharing
The PowerShot N Facebook ready digital camera is also equipped with built-in Wi-Fi® technology, so high-quality images can be shared with friends and family even while on-the-go. Users now have the ability to comment on their uploaded photos directly from the camera – so starting a conversation on social networking sites is easy and convenient. Users can also instantly upload images wirelessly from the camera to CANON iMAGE GATEWAYi, and upload them to a computer remotely. Photos can also be printed wirelessly using Wireless PictBridgeii on select printers, including the Canon PIXMA MG7120 or PIXMA MG5520 Wireless Photo All-In-One printers.
The Ultimate Tool to Capture Creativity
Creative Shot, available on the PowerShot N Facebook ready digital camera, is an easy, yet powerful tool to add artistic effects to photos. In Creative Shot mode, users compose their shot and let the PowerShot N Facebook ready digital camera automatically create a series of five artistic photos along with the original to deliver creative new perspectives using different color modes, crops and styles. In addition, the new PowerShot N Facebook ready digital camera offers 58 scenes of Smart AUTO and provides an 8x optical zoom to help users capture the ultimate creative shot.
A first-ever for the PowerShot line-up, the camera's zoom lens and shutter are both operated on the camera's dual-ring lens. By moving the dual-ring left or right users can control the camera's zoom, and by pressing on the other ring users control the shutter, which can be released from the top or bottom of the ring, so managing the PowerShot N Facebook ready digital camera is easy and effortless.
The PowerShot N Facebook ready digital camera features a touch shutter, enabling users to start tracking a subject simply by pressing the intuitive touch panel LCD, and then capture the image by lifting their finger off the screen. For added flexibility, the image on the screen rotates with the camera – so people can capture even the most unique shot.
Sleek, Small and Designed for Portability
With a sleek and unique design, the PowerShot N Facebook ready digital camera is ideal for quick on-the-go shooting. This camera features a 2.8-inch capacitive, tilt touch panel LCD, which offers 90 degrees of tilt, encouraging users to capture images from a wide array of angles and positions effectively in virtually any location. The top-mounted hinge keeps the PowerShot N Facebook ready digital camera compact for convenient on-the-go shooting and easy, one-handed operation. The PowerShot N Facebook ready digital camera uses a Micro SD card to store images, and the camera can be easily charged with a USB cable while on-the-go, ensuring the creative process is never interrupted. In addition, the USB cable provides a quick and easy way to download videos as an alternative to the innovative Wi-Fi® options.
Pricing and Availability
The PowerShot N Facebook ready digital camera will be available in white in September 2013 on the Canon Direct online store for $299.99. For more information, and a full list of product specifications, visit www.usa.canon.com/powershot.
i One-time registration is required on CANON iMAGE GATEWAY online photo album.
ii PictBridge (Wireless LAN) certified printer is required.
Canon PowerShot N Facebook ready specifications
|Body type
|Body type
|Max resolution
|4000 x 2248
|Image ratio w:h
|1:1, 4:3, 3:2, 16:9
|Effective pixels
|12 megapixels
|Sensor photo detectors
|13 megapixels
|Sensor size
|1/2.3" (6.17 x 4.55 mm)
|Sensor type
|Digic 5
|Auto 80, 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200, 6400
|White balance presets
|Image stabilization
|Uncompressed format
|File format
|Optics & Focus
|Focal length (equiv.)
|28–224 mm
|Optical zoom
|Maximum aperture
|Digital zoom
|Yes (4x)
|Macro focus range
|1 cm (0.39″)
|Screen / viewfinder
|Articulated LCD
|Screen size
|Screen dots
|Touch screen
|Screen type
|PureColor II G touch
|Live view
|Viewfinder type
|Photography features
|Minimum shutter speed
|15 sec
|Maximum shutter speed
|1/2000 sec
|Exposure modes
|Built-in flash
|Yes (LED flash)
|Continuous drive
|2.3 fps
|Yes (2 or 10 sec)
|Metering modes
|Exposure compensation
|±2 (at 1/3 EV steps)
|Videography features
|1920 x 1080 (24 fps), 1280 x 720 (30 fps), 640 x 480 (30, 120 fps), 320 x 240 ( 240 fps)
|Storage types
|USB 2.0 (480 Mbit/sec)
|Battery Pack
|Battery description
|Lithium-Ion NB-9L rechargeable battery & charger
|Battery Life (CIPA)
|Weight (inc. batteries)
|195 g (0.43 lb / 6.88 oz)
|79 x 60 x 29 mm (3.11 x 2.36 x 1.14″)
|Other features
|GPS notes
|via Smartphone app
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Hey! there is something gone worng...
In the specs theer's written:
Max resolution 4000 x 2248
Image ratio w:h 1:1, 4:3, 3:2, 16:9
Effective pixels 12.1 megapixels
Sensor photo detectors 12.8 megapixels
4 000 * 2 248 = 8 992 000
so 4000*2248 px is only 8.9 Mpx, _not_ 12.1 Mpx!
Oh, and in two month it's the Canon Instagram edition and in early january the Canon Twitter model.. making bird sounds with every click of the shutter....
I guess no one commenting here has a camera with wifi yet... because most of them can post to facebook... and many other sites. I don't quite see the point of a dedicated product with a tiny sensor - it's not a good camera and relegates itself to one dedicated task, and it's not versatile like a smartphone. At $50 the market could bear such a gadget - as it would be cheap, disposable... but if it costs any more, I don't know.
Good question E Dinkla. My guess is that Canon wants to keep the camera as idiot proof as possible, so the fewer buttons the better. The camera has a playback button, Shutter button, and facebook button, and for some people that still may be too many buttons to figure out. Besides, folks can still access all of the other social media sites via WIFI thru the touchscreen.
While the PowerShot N isn't likely to have a big fan base among DPR readers, its concept makes sense if you think of it as a smartphone accessary that doesn't physically attach to the phone. Basically, it's just a zoom lens + large sensor (huge compared to smartphone's sensor) that can fit in the same pocket as the phone or be worn around the neck as jewelry. Teenagers and young adults will love it, and that's the audience you want to capture if you want to grow your business. Think of it as a reinvention of the Canon Elph.
You're bang on Donnie. I think this is a great idea for a niche market that wants photos. I work at a box store and I have sold a few of these based on facebook but also it's 6x filter process which allows you to snap a photo and have filters and cropping applied in 6 different ways. It's a brilliant move by Canon.
Hi Neodp, remember, Canon is not anything like the Kodak of the film era. I doubt that Canon is all that interested in selling to the Dollar Store shopper. What the PowerShot N and even the film era Canon ELPH represents is chic, fashionable, hip, upscale accessorizing for those persons who readily pluck down $400 and more for their chic, fashionable, hip, upscale smartphones and other toys. Let the competition squabble over the lowest end of the market. It just makes good business sense.
Its unlikely the target audience is going to appreciate the distinction between the camera in their phone and this. Frankly, even those who do are likely to conclude it's not worth the bother and expense.
It costs too much, but the idea is not that dumb. Sure, phone can take pictures and post them easily on facebook. But it does not have zoom and takes poor pictures in low-light (clubs, parties, movie theathers, etc etc). It is made to be very pocketable, looks like a piece of make-up and serves the purpose of being partly a fashion accessory, partly a communication tool. I would put an option to send text in there, but still I expect it to see it in purses of 16 year old girls across the country, as long as the price drops a little.
I don´t really see the point in buying such a camera if you are mainly interested in sharing photos on Facebook. A smartphone or tablet would be enough for that.
Some phones have really good cameras, with zoom, brand lenses, manual shutter-speed, etc.
See for example Nokia Lumia 1020 or Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom (there´s an interesting comparison here):
Yes this is designed to compete with mobile phones but if those specs are correct then my Xperia Z has a 28mm F2.2 camera which should allow more light onto its sensor than that on the Canon's f3.0 aperture (also 28mm). Maybe there won't be that much difference from today's mobile phone cameras but it's nice to see the dedication to the FB fraternity. :-)
Adapop: even people who post photos on Facebook might want far more zoom ability than any phone gives. Even the Nokia 1020 with its crop-to-zoom has no match for this 8x lens.
Zoom range is probably the single most common reason for camera-photographers to also want a camera-only device. i expect fixed-lens small sensor cameras with less than 4x zoom to die out fairly soon.
Give me a break.
Is there absolutely NO photography equipment for you to cover or review?
Its a camera isn't it ... if DPR don't cover only the gear you're interested in, try elsewhere!
@chadley_chat, they could at least label it "connect" instead, so we can filter out this junk.
If you would like another example to Sam's point, here is another (as they abound)... perhaps the story about a camera that was lost, then found, in an alligator pit, would have been man-hours better spent.
Ahhhhhh...a belly flop into a pool of fail. We'll be seeing these @ $75 on Slickdeals by X-mas for sure.
This looks like a camera phone without the phone part. Is this any more useful than an iTouch?
Nokia 808 & Lumia 1020 owns this sh*t big time, yo!
...and yet I would rather pay $300 bucks for this rather than an APS-C camera that can't auot-focus correctly.
Now that this piece of turd comes with a "Facebook button," I am sure that USD $299 will be a steal for it, huh?
NSA infested cameras. Excellent.
Good one. You take the picture and send it to Facebook. NSA gets a "courtesy copy" of it immediately, and a whole lot of good that is going to do to America's well being, ha-ha-ha.
No doubt this can also sync with a Microsoft Kin too.
This is a fine example of totally useless camera;
- Camera cannot text, thus average smartphone does a better job for social network contact. (and sphones offer a choice of social networks)
- Image Quality will not do for serious photographers who need a upload anyhow now feature .
Overall I'm really getting worried about Canon's future making a statement with such outdated crap.
Progress is a wonderful thing: now your friends and anyone who finds your lost camera can post p*rn on your Facebook page without your knowledge. But wait, there's more: you might be branded as a paedophile for the rest of your life because someone put kiddie p*orn on your Facebook page.
This scenario strikes me as . . . unlikely. If I'm wrong, it's a much better argument against carrying a smartphone than against carrying this particular camera.
Mediocre idea by 2008 standards. Almost offensively stupid now. Nobody cares if they have image hosting. Everyone's phone can post images anywhere. Too little much too late and with too much marketing BS fanfare. You lost the market to mobiles, you lost the plot, give it a rest. Where were the fancy MBA idiots five years ago? Too late now. Bye.
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1.01 PHARUS P. Browne
Emmet J. Judziewicz
Gerald F. Guala
Plants perennial, some apparently monocarpic; rhizomatous, sometimes cespitose or stoloniferous; monoecious. Culms 10–130 cm, erect to decumbent; internodes solid, frequently with prominent prop roots at the lower nodes. Sheaths open, glabrous; ligules usually scarious, sometimes membranous and ciliate; pseudopetioles conspicuous, twisted 180° distally, inverting the blades; blades linear to ovate, usually broad, usually tessellate, lateral veins diverging obliquely from the midvein. Inflorescences terminal panicles, ovate, open; rachises terminating in a staminate spikelet or naked; branches with uncinate hairs, spikelets appressed. Spikelets unisexual, dimorphic, sexes paired or pistillate spikelets solitary, with 1 floret; rachillas not prolonged beyond the florets; disarticulation above the glumes and in the panicle branches. Staminate spikelets smaller than the pistillate spikelets, attached below the pistillate spikelets on appressed pedicels; lower glumes shorter than the upper glumes or absent; lemmas longer than the glumes, ovate, 3-veined; lodicules 3, minute; anthers 6. Pistillate spikelets larger than the staminate spikelets, subsessile, elongate; glumes subequal, lanceolate, (3)5–9(11)-veined, purple or green; lemmas cylindrical, longer than the glumes, indurate, involute, with uncinate hairs over at least a portion of the surface, 7-veined, margins inrolled, concealing the palea; lodicules absent; staminodes 6, minute; styles 1, 3-branched, stigmas hispid. x = 12. Name from the Greek pharos, 'cloak' or 'mantle'.
Pharus includes eight species. It extends from central Florida through Mexico to Argentina and Uruguay, and grows in moist to wet lowland forests. One species, Pharus glaber, is native to the Flora region.
The uncinate hairs and disarticulating panicle branches of Pharus promote dispersion by attaching to the coats of passing animals. The inverted, pseudopetiolate leaf blades and oblique venation make the genus easily distinguished, even in its vegetative state. Well-preserved female spikelets resembling those of Pharus mezii Prod. have been found in 30–45 million-year-old amber.
SELECTED REFERENCES Clark, L.G. and E.J. Judziewicz. 1996. The grass subfamilies Anomochloöideae and Pharoideae (Poaceae). Taxon 45:641–645; Hitchcock, A.S. 1951. Manual of the Grasses of the United States, ed. 2, rev. A. Chase. U.S.D.A. Miscellaneous Publication No. 200. U.S. Government Printing Office, Washington, D.C., U.S.A. 1051 pp.; Judziewicz, E.J. 1987. Taxonomy and morphology of the Tribe Phareae (Poaceae: Bambusoideae). Ph.D. dissertation, University of Wisconsin, Madison, Wisconsin, U.S.A. 557 pp.
1. Pharus glaber Kunth
Upsidedown Grass
Plants cespitose. Culms 25–95 cm, generally decumbent and rooting at the nodes. Sheaths glabrous, extensively over-lapping; ligules 1–2 mm; pseudopetioles 8–60 mm; blades 7–30 cm long, 2–6.5 cm wide, narrowly elliptic to obovate, often acuminate, lacking intercostal fibrous bands, sometimes whitened beneath, lateral veins diverging from the midvein at a 4–8° angle. Panicles 10–40 cm, sparsely flowered; branches solitary, with uncinate hairs, usually tipped with a staminate spikelet. Staminate spikelets 2.5–3.5 mm, on 4–11 mm pedicels, subtending the pistillate spikelets, purple; lower glumes 1–2 mm; upper glumes 1.5–3.2 mm, 1- or 3-veined; lemmas 2.5–3.5 mm; paleas about 3/4 the length of the lemmas; anthers 0.9–1.1 mm. Pistillate spikelets 7.5–12 mm, diverging slightly from the branches; glumes brown; lower glumes 5–7 mm, 5–7-veined; upper glumes 6–8 mm, 3–5-veined; lemmas 7.5–12 mm, linear-oblong, abruptly short-beaked, with uncinate hairs nearly to the base; paleas equaling the lemmas. 2n = 24.
Pharus glaber grows on limestone-influenced sand in the hammocks of central Florida. Only two remaining populations are known in the United States, but the species is still widely present elsewhere in the Neotropics. Hitchcock (1951) erroneously referred this species to Pharus parvifolius Nash, which differs primarily in the presence of intercostal fibrous bands on the adaxial surfaces of the leaf blades.


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Area Rug Vendors Stoic on Second Half
June 23, 2008,
As Americans trim vacation plans this summer, many manufacturers of area rugs are hoping some of those saved gas dollars will be spent on redecorating with new accent pieces. Otherwise, business is expected to only get tougher for the rug category at retail, said top executives in this HTT survey.
828 International Trading Co.
"I think if the same issues — housing, gasoline and food prices — are still affecting consumer sentiment, we will be hard pressed to see much improvement. But, being an election year, and with the fall season, yes, I do believe we will see some improvement."
Capel Incorporated
Allen Robertson, vp, sales
"Consumers are making tough decisions … that said, I think there are some bright spots on the horizon. We're already seeing the positive reverberations throughout the economy from the consumer tax rebate.
"If a company shows flexibility and adaptation through those tough economic times, they can actually create great innovations. What we anticipate through the fall and winter is that consumers may not be as willing to make large scale luxury purchases, but they will be open to purchasing smaller scale items for the home. We're working hard on adapting products and creating innovative promotions to drive sales."
Central Oriental/ Natco Home Products
Jim Thompson, vp sales and marketing
"I think if retailers, wholesalers, reps, all of us work hard and stay positive, then we will find business.
"We are doing several things...first is to focus on U.S.-made product to offset exchange rate issues. We can be much more competitive, and making products in the U.S. allows us to promote our products in an environment of price increases. Second is to move our product offering to a more transitional mix. In the past we were heavily traditional, and now we are balancing out our assortment with more transitional designs. We are also being creative in our merchandising by offering value products to create increased sales. The key is to not complain, but to work for the business."
Larry Mahurter, director of advertising and sales promotion
"We're not being affected as much as some other companies because of the higher-end products we offer. Our sales are above the flat line because of that factor. How that can change in second half of the year, I don't know.
"But I will say any dealers who are foolish enough to refrain from refreshing their stores and adding new fixtures right now stand to lose. It's those who stay in the front of the public mind, with marketing and advertising and fresh merchandise during the tough times, that will remain in the front of customers' minds in better times.
"It's also important for dealers, in the second half of this year, to be very clever in their marketing and advertising and make sure they are included in everyone's dealer locators, make sure they have updated samples and displays, etc.
"Dealers should be finding their own niches and focusing on them right now."
Feizy Import & Export
John Feizy, president and ceo
"We definitely expect to see an upturn in the market as retailers prepare for the holiday selling season. Our bath and accent goods have already been performing very strongly, and we anticipate that all areas of business will improve in the second half of the year."
Kea Capel Meachum, brand director
"We're opening opportunities for our carpet-based retailers with area rugs that represent distinctively different qualities that have not been offered to them in the past. Hand-finished bordered rugs, custom rug options at key price points ($399 to $599), creative display options that strengthen our brand presence, and the merchandising of area rugs beautifully and economically, plus the industry's strongest selection of Stainmaster-branded rugs.
"Our Gulistan rug business is growing because we understand that carpet-based retailers must sell rugs that support their core broadloom business. In this down market, we've seen our rug business grow."
Hellenic Rug Imports
Steve Mazarakis, president
"Unfortunately the core of the business is suffering. Today, the price of oil and the inevitable increases of food and energy — natural gas and electricity — along with credit being so difficult to obtain for the bulk of our end users, does not give a rosy picture for the second half.
"But there can be an upside to this dilemma.
"There should be some increase in business in the area rug business the second half starting in the fall for the mere reason that people will need a positive change in their homes.
"The high-end area rug should hold its own, since people with tons of money are not as affected as the middle class.
"Let's hope the oil people and their partners show some compassion to the American people and their suffering. Once [the oil people] realize that their greed has disrupted not only America but the world, we can end this problem overnight."
Homefires and Home Comfort
Renee Ringstad, vp, merchandising
"The sub-prime mortgage crisis has definitely had an adverse effect on the home accessories market, especially when it comes to items that are generally considered investment pieces at higher dollar amounts. However, we have been extremely fortunate that sales for our accent rugs continue to be strong. Our colorful designs and great pricing allows our product to be considered 'functional gift.' Because of this particular characteristic, we enjoy a very diverse market — a real advantage in a struggling economy."
Bill Storey, svp, gm
"I expect the fall season to be challenging. The lower end of the market has been hit the hardest by these cost-of-living increases and it looks like spending in that segment will get worse before it gets better. Fortunately for us, the Karastan customer is more affluent and is less impacted by these rising costs. Though not as steadily, [customers] are still purchasing area rugs and continue to turn to Karastan for style, quality and value."
Kas Rugs
Wendy Reiss, key account manager
"I think the key word for the second half of this year is 'change,' right? The election will certainly bring about change, and people are excited about that. Everything is cyclical, so I'm optimistic that we'll see some bright spots in the housing market and the economy this fall, and therefore we'll also see increasing consumer confidence and spending."
Milliken Rugs
Rob Beistline, market manager for area rugs and matting products
"Business for area rugs in fall 2008 will pick up from where the industry was in spring 2008. However, we still don't expect it to be at the levels everyone is typically used to for the fall selling season. As the economy starts to level out, we expect the market to start to normalize again. If we continue to see volatility of the markets, it will be anyone's guess where we end up. We will continue to offer customers high-quality rugs at a great value."
Mohawk Home
Jim Quist, vp, sales
"We are optimistic … we see more people staying home this year and spending discretionary dollars on updating or redecorating a room. We see the back-to-school business as running a bit later this year, as people have been delayed due to economic challenges. But they still need rugs as August and September approach.
"We see continued growth in the larger 8-by-10 category. More retailers are finding ways to add the larger sizes to their floors, and see them as plus sales. It remains our fastest growing piece of the business in tufted, printed and woven.
"The styling trend also continues to be casual/modern and transitional. We look for continued growth in the second half of the year as these trends continue.
"Regarding the holiday and seasonal segments of our business, we are taking a cautious approach."
David Forman, director of marketing
"We have been pursuing creative new ways to help stores maximize profits. In addition to our traditional marketing materials, such as customized direct mail and in-store signage, and an aggressive national advertising schedule, we've presented brand new, unique-to-the-industry displays that present hundreds of additional products in a minimal amount of space.
"The rising cost of raw materials for synthetic fibers has closed the gap between nylons vs. natural and wools. Our newest broadloom products, produced in our brand new facilities, are now a much better consumer choice in both price point and quality. Synthetics try to mimic the properties of pure wool, and we're now able to offer the real thing at very competitive prices.
"We are confident as we head to the July markets, and remain cautiously optimistic for the second half of 2008."
Shaw Living
Kim Barta, brand manager
"Each fall and holiday season brings a sales upswing. Consumers want to make home improvements prior to holiday gatherings as well as purchase accessories such as rugs as gifts. This year will be the same. The question is how many consumers?
"We certainly don't expect the upswing to be as we experienced in the past but rather an upswing [relative to] today's market."
United Weavers
Diane Carleo, director of marketing and sales
"Human nature runs in cycles, and we're in a conservative, don't-spend cycle right now waiting to see who takes over Washington and where the gas is going to level out. By the fourth quarter, we will be back to spending on home furnishings, fixing up the house for the holidays and thinking that new accent piece — whatever it is — in our homes looks great and makes me feel good every time I walk into this room."
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omg what bullies, omg. Please, someone take this picture down.
The only problem I see with tis is that TC mentioned he talked to the team about social media and he doesn't wan these things happening. Why are they still posting pictures like this?Also, they still think of Prince as a rookie because he didn't play a full season. They said he has like 3 more games or something like that.
They need to stop taking pictures and videos of this stuff...So the media and fans cant make it in to something its not
lol at Randle's face but why are these things still being posted on social media? They're just making the fire bigger...
Anyway I'm still chuckling at the people who think Prince was some poor lone victim of these types of hazings.
Maybe they're still taking pictures because they notice how many people are *****ing about it :biggrin:
As long as no one gets hurt..we all know its all in good fun and If anyone has ever played sports know that this happens and it's a bonding experience


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"He is very intelligent and talented but most of all he is passionate about the game"--Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger talking about Robin Van Persie in 2009.
Robin Van Persie's £2.75 million move from Eredivisie side Feyenoord to Arsenal in 2004 did not attract much attention. Eight years later, the news of his departure from Arsenal, confirmed by the player himself on his website, has attracted worldwide attention.
Under the tutelage of Wenger, van Persie was molded from a left winger to one of the most lethal strikers the world over.
For example, during the 2011 calendar year Van Persie scored 35 goals which was just one short of Alan Shearer's record of 36. In doing so he almost single handedly helped Arsenal to a credible third place finish, a feat that was unthinkable just six months previously.
During the 2010-11 season he became the first Premier league player to score in nine consecutive away games, a feat that has not been equaled or surpassed.
Unfortunately, van Persie's playing career has also been dogged by injuries. In 2009 he suffered a career threatening injury in a friendly international that put him on the deck for five months.
More set backs were to follow as the supremely talented player was rarely utilized for an entire season due to numerous injuries. His injuries ranged from the unfortunate to the bizarre. In the 2006-07 season for instance, Van Persie fractured a metatarsal in his right foot, whilst celebrating a winning goal.
Yet as inevitably as the Sun rises from the East and sets in the West, van Persie would reemerge from these setbacks sharper, focused and more lethal. One just can but speculate as to the heights that he would have achieved at Arsenal had he not been derailed time and time again by countless injuries.
Van Persie's career blossomed once he was handed the captain's armband in Arsenal in 2011. His first game in charge was disastrous, as Arsenal was dismantled, 8-2 by Manchester United. but soon he seemed to merge into the role.
It seems van Persie's decision to leave Arsenal has been influenced by the long trophy drought that Wenger's boys have experienced since that sunny day when Patrick Vieira's penalty handed them the 2005 FA Cup.
It may have been the sight of his ex-colleagues Samir Nasri and Cesc Fabregas winning trophies in other clubs immediately after leaving Arsenal that contributed to his decision to leave.
Whatever the rationale behind his decision, at 28 years of age, Van Persie had very limited time to make a move. One feels it was this season or never. He took the bow in majestic fashion winning the 2011-2012 Golden Boot after many stirring and match winning performances.
His departure is not much of a surprise. For most of the past season it had seemed inevitable that Van Persie would leave Arsenal. Not even the statement by his father Bob Van Persie that seemed to suggest that his son would not leave the Gunners laid to the rest the persistent rumour mills. In the end Van Persie called time on his outstanding career at the Emirates.
All said and done the services of Van Persie will be greatly missed at the Emirates. He will be remembered as the eighth highest all-time scorer at Arsenal with an incredible 132 goals and has left a legacy that few will be able to match let alone emulate.
The famous image of van Persie wheeling away, his number 10 shirt in full sight after scoring another spectacular goal will remain etched for months if not years in the memories of not only Arsenal fans but football lovers globally.
Captain Van-Tastic who has been compared to the great Dutch Legend Marco Van Basten due to his silky football skills will be an impossible act to follow.
Truly without a doubt it is an end of an era.
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The Thought Of It Makes Me Sad,
Tears Getting My Shirt Soaking Wet,
Happiness Isn't Found Just Yet,
Every Shooting Star Has A Light,
I Wish Upon At Night,
Every Angel Has A Mission,
To Answer Every Wish, Wishen,
I had a solid heart of Gold
which hid inside my ribcage
but you took it out and broke it
into many peices and I was left
You picked me up from the ground
showed me your love
helped me understand my life
You showed me the different world
Love Poems For Him
I laid down on a bad made flower in my dream
I covered me with a chamomile quilt
I kissed his face reminiscent of psoriasis,
I stroked your hair, just like strokes you
I looked into your eyes if is closed your eyelids,
My heart burned with your love,
There is nothing left from her
to me
Just For Him
He is the guy
God sent from above
I catch him with my eye
Like a solid white dove
He is the sweet to my heart
The rainbow to my skittles
The beat for my heart
And the answer to my riddles
She loves him with all her heart
She is happy with a smile shown
everyone loves her that was prone
she has it all; everything is great
she gets everything; that's just fate
She loves…him…
All my words are lies.
what is the truth?
my heart is the only one that knows.
I tell her that I approve and to be happy,
my heart screams in pain at my words.
I jab the knife into my soul;
what does my pain matter?
She loves him but hates him
He looks at her and sees beauty
she looks at him and sees stupidy
no one imagined that they would get together
but when they did
everyone thought they would stay forever
forever is to long, sooner or later it will fall apart
when it did she had a broken heart
she acted like nothing was happening
I love him this way
He loves me
But I love him more with all of me
He cares for me
But for him I cared like crazy
I made him fell in love
But more he knocked me off my feet
His life thats what he sees me
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I installed win 7 on a separate partition and after it goes through the copying and install process, it boots up to windows and says it cannon complete final setup. I've encountered this same issue on my laptop and once i deleted the previous operating system it installed flawlessly. However I would prefer not to delete my current install of vista as it's my main computer source. Any ideas?
How-To Geek Forums / Windows 7
Dual Boot 7/vista(2 posts)
i'll give this a shot.
boot off Vista and then go to the disk management panel. look for the partition for Win7 and assign a drive letter to it (in case it's not assigned).
then reboot, cross your fingers, and make a good hot mug of brewed coffee. :-)
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Man, is it nice to have the NFL back. From Broncos-Ravens on Thursday through a good slate of 1 p.m. games on Sunday, to that 49ers-Packers game and Cowboys-Giants on Sunday night, it's been an entertaining return to pro football.
Now it's your turn. Finally, after 246 days, or eight months and three days, or 5,900 hours or 354, 240 minutes — but who's counting? — the Redskins can finally attempt to get rid of that sour taste from the Seattle playoff loss with another meaningful game.
So, what's your prediction? Scores and 2-3 sentences of explanation please.
That's what I asked four Philadelphia writers for, as part of a traditional feature on our print game day page. Remarkably, their score predictions were pretty similar, and not that far off from what I'd pick myself (I'd go 37-31, Redskins). Their logic varies, however:
Redskins 38, Eagles 26: Robert Griffin III might be a bit rusty, with no preseason, but the Eagles' secondary made Chad Henne look like Peyton Manning in the preseason. So both Eagles safeties and all the corners might as well wear jersey No. WD-40. Eagles defensive coordinator Billy Davis said this game will tell him what he has. Spoiler alert: What he has is a big mess. Six new starters join a unit that has run a 4-3 for two decades and now is trying to transition to 3-4. Yes, Chip Kelly's offense ought to be able to manage a few surprises, even on the road against a good defense, but it's unclear how often the Redskins will feel like letting the Eagles have the ball. — Les Bowen, Philadelphia Daily News
Redskins 34, Eagles 24: With a healthy offensive line, a talented group of running backs and a focused DeSean Jackson, Michael Vick has the pieces around him to succeed. But the Eagles have turned the ball over 75 times in their past 32 games, meaning yards may not lead to points. The defense features an unproven secondary and is very much a work-in-progress. Even if Griffin is a statue, he'll be able to light them up. — Sheil Kapadia, PhillyMag.com
Redskins 34, Eagles 29: The Eagles showed nothing in the way of being able to stop the run during the preseason, and the Redskins were the No. 1-ranked rushing offense a year ago. Expect Washington to find success on the ground, then hit on big plays on play action. This will be a fun, high-scoring game, but ultimately the Redskins simply have the better quarterback, who will make fewer mistakes. — Jimmy Kempski, Philly.com
Redskins 35, Eagles 24: RGIII probably is going to be a little rusty, but not Alfred Morris and the Redskins' offensive line. The Eagles' defensive transition from a 4-3 to a 3-4 isn't going smoothly, particularly against the run. Big game for Morris, big night for Redskins' offense. — Paul Domowitch, Philadelphia Daily News
I see the Eagles putting up some points — maybe a LeSean McCoy open-field juke of Baccari Rambo is Philly's highlight. But the Redskins are going to get big contributions from a couple of players who missed the entire seven-game win streak and run to the playoffs last season, in Brian Orakpo and Fred Davis (not to mention 100 percent Pierre Garcon), and they put up their fair share of points as well against that transitioning Eagles D.
Do you see it differently?
From The Post:
With the just-released preview section and the run-up to the opener, we've hit the season from so many angles it'd be impossible to link to it all here. We've got columns, stories and unique features on our sports front and Redskins Web page, and I wanted to draw your attention to a few things here. The live blog for tonight's game will open up about two hours before kickoff, and if you're heading to the game against D.C.'s rush hour traffic, check out Dr. Gridlock's tips below.
RGIII is back tonight, but will he be the same?
Secondary seeks positive start against Eagles
Redskins vs. Eagles, five storylines to follow
Shanahan's challenge: Operation unity
Redskins preview section | NFL scoreboard
Dr. Gridlock: Getting to FedEx Field on Monday night
D.C. Sports Bog: Preseason 'Best and worst' | More Redskins
The Early Lead: Suh's low hit might be costly | More NFL
Around the Web:
● The Washington Times sees an air of mystery around the Redskins tonight.
● With the Eagles set to run Chip Kelly's offense and the Redskins likely to run a bunch of Inside and Outside zone plays, today's as good a day as any to visit or re-visit Fishduck. Mark Saltveit has been following Kelly, and gets into the comparision of Kelly to Greasy Neale made by Ray Didinger.
● If you've read every story about Robert Griffin III, the Newark Star-Ledger traced the road opposing quarterback Michael Vick has traveled since he last opened a season on Monday Night Football in 2005.
● Oh, fine, one last group of season predictions: Bill Simmons has the Redskins 17th, behind the Giants and Cowboys, but it's an amusing read nonetheless.
What's ahead:
● As if you weren't aware, the Redskins' season kicks off at 7:10 p.m. ESPN goes on air for Monday Night Football at 6:55.


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At the usual hour, one o'cUxtk, i lie special order was taki;n up—tjeing tho bill reported by Mr. Urun ily, from ilic t'oitiiiiiiioe on ilie Judiciary, having for ils s()i(! object to prevent the issuiii«: and circulation of the <>l(i notes of the Hunk of tiiu I'liited States. It has iinother title. Hut this is ihc single and exclusive purpose. 1 noiicud the oi)enin}i tirade of of Mr. (irundy against Mr. Hiddle yesterday. One (frent aim of that piece of pitiful sophistry ami dec lamation was to provoke some o( the Whigs to come out, and givo the parly an op;iorluni'.y to make a lulse issue with lhc;tii. for tins pmposo allusions • to the remarks and oiiiiiions of Mr. Clay, Mr. VVoh-»terand other distinguished Seiiators were artfully waved into Mr. Grundy's siicech. To his great di.suppoiniment, however, and that • of his political ussociatc's, not a sin;;U! member oP theopposiiion cxliibited the sli^lilist disposition t reply to his fanfaronade, or to say u syiiablo on tho ^ measure itself. Hero was a dead pause; for snine moments after the bill was ea'led up. The I^>ci • i'^dfo's looked across to the seals ol'ihe Whig St;na-lors. No sign—uo sy mjitom <)|'s|ii'echmaking was there! Mr. Preston lounged v\ ¡ilii-arcU'sscasu in his chair. Mr. Clay's eyes wore li.xed on u newspaper extended before him. Mr. 1 »avis looked cool mid indirterent. Mr. Si . thard was talking and laughing with n friend on one of the sofas hediiud. Neither Mr. Rives nor Mr. 'rullniaiige were within the ba^. There was clearly no one on that side_of the chainlK;r who intended lo t peak. The Loco Foco's giew restU-s, Mr. Crundy bo-came uncas v. lit! looked aiuuiid. He glanccd repeatedly towards the upjiositioii seats. No sign — no mo;ion—all was stillness and aluiost indiller-ence. This was useveiu cut the eoini)laconey of Mr. Feli.v tJrundy.—'I'liai no hudy sliould think his three hours si:cech v.crth bestowing even a word upon! ItwustooUid! At length the iiistrucU,l Senator slowly drawled out n suggestion tliat — peihaps—no—gentleman— was_leady—to—go—on to-ilay!(at each word an nn.xious look was cast around.) If so—ho—would _conacnt—that the bill ^liouhl lie laid aside for the Henry Clay was instantly on his feet. Great was the joy of the Lwofoco'sl-'l'liey thought that '-Har ry of the West" was going to speak; and hoped he wotild atford ;hem a loop to hang some inisre|)resen- • tation and declamution upon. "He is out al last"'"' exclaimed one of the triU). Alas! all tliehe line expeetations were again doomed to disappointment by his very (irst words. lit rose but not lo enter on the debate. He spoke sharply and shoi tly. '1 hope sir,'{-aid he) "the bill will nut 'hi; laid » 'aside. I'erhaps no ont; irislus to spi'ak, and if that <i9 tho case, 1 hope the vote will be taken at once ♦1 call for uyes and noes.' 'J'he party wore taken all aback by these remarks. They found themselves foiled in their elhirts to force a false issue on the Whips, and they heard the clear imging tones» Mr. Clay defying them to como lo vote. Their trouble wa>» extreme, lienlon alone attempted to brave it out. 'Question! liu(!stion !j he callt;d : two or three voiei s wore raiseil after him: but very feebly. 'I"ho cry was however answered back from tho opposition. Htii'c us the quesiion, it is what M-o want' kiaid Mr. I'resion—'viuestion (luestion'— 'C.xcluiined sev«;iul Whig Senators. Mr. King of Alabama rose. He was not ready lo vote on the measure! Ho wished further time for considoration.—Ho hoped tho bill would bo laid ttside. Thi« was said very deferentially with an cvidont design to e()nci;al tho speaker's gieat anxiety to ^ havo the meusuie postponeil. Hut for all that, the design was abundantly apparent. 'Oil!' rejoined Mr. Clay, good-hnmorcdiy, the friend* of the udministralioH are unriowt for dnlay, I will eertuinly interpose no nbalacle. Hut for my own puit, I wish to come to tho vote! 1 euro not for any more long speeches. L'uino to tho vote! Let • us lee who tliey are, that are ready to assert the jpowerii piopom-d to be nxeiciwd under tho bill!" TkeM lual words were pronounced with an ear-neaineiis and ctoqueuce of nmnner that bturtled (ho party with reflection, on what they|were about do They faltered in their course. Mr. King of Alabama, first rose & said be did not intend to enter into any discussion of the measure, but he wished for time to examine its provisions. 'But' (added he) 'if action on it is to be pressed, all I have to say is, that with my present impressions I must vole against the bill. Mr. Strange of N. C., the author of a long letter to the editor of the Globe on Mr. Biddle, and his letter next took the floor, and declared his belief that Congress possessed no constitutional power to enact such a law as this of Mr. Grundy's, and therefore he could not vole for U.'' Then came Smith, a full-blooded Loco Foco from Connecticut—with a renewal of deprecations against taking the vote on the Bill, fie had never looked into its provisions. But gentlemen in whom he had the highest confidence, had objected to it. lie could not vote for it at present. His worthy colleague, Niles, followed Mr. Smith. He too wanted more time. He did not suppose he would have been called on so soon to vote. Ho was not prepared to vole yet! Ho would not willingly vote! He moved to lay the bill on the table for the present. And so it was laid on the table by the votes ofthe Administration Senators, who were not ready to act on their own measure! They were taken by surprise, in consequenco of an absurd notion they had got into their heads, that the whigs would go into a long debate about Mr. Biddic and his letter. Why if allj the trash which Mr. Senator Grundy talked about that gentleman, and tho Pennsylvania Hank of the United ^States were true, what is that to the great cause of tho Whigs?—tho cause of the i'tO|)le against the Exjwriinenters! The Administration Senators it appears abjure also the vindictive measure, engendered by Messrs. Grundy & Co., in their hatred of Biddic, it io too bad oven for their unscrupulous capacities to swallow. More of this anon. The Senate spent the latter part of ihc day, in the consideration of private business. During the morning hour Judge White presented a preamble and resolution adopted by the legislature of Tennessee in favor of the annexation of Texas to the Union. Mr. Preston look the occasion lo give notice that he would call up at an early day his resolution on tho same subject offered some time ago. Tho iniscellaneoii'; bu-iinr-^s wa-. nuiinportnnt In the House of liu[iiesentauves .\i r. Campbidl of South (,'arolina gave notice that he would move to re-consider the vote by which Mr. Hopkin's motion for the iinmodiato consideration of the resolution relative lo the currency, presented by Mr. Hamer & then withdrawn ny him, and afterwards offered again by .Mr. Hopkins, was negatived. So that matter is not yet over. On motion .Mr. Adams, the use ofthe Hall on to-miu rou an 1 Tliuisday fiom nine o'clock till oleviui was iriveti l > Prolessor Iv^pw for the purpose of <le- iiveriiig two lecturcs on .Meteorulo^^ical Obsorva lions ill the United Stales. The House was engaged during the principal portion of the day with a loosx* and desultory debate in the (Jomniiltee of the Whole, on tho bill providing for taking down the Trt-asui y Buildings, and erecting a (ire-proorf building fur the uses of the Post ( )llice Depa: tmciiit. If this measure should iiceari ied th-ougli, 1 bojie this will keep the men employ ed on the work so well occupied, that your Loco Foeos of Haltimoie will not be able to get them to swell their forco on election days. Inhaling Silecr.— It is said, in a French paper, that on opening the mules after death, which have been employed in the Mexican mines, from two to live pounds of silver are often found in their stomachs. /'/«/. Sent. We wonder whether the two-legged asses, em ployed in Mr. Van Buren's subtreasuries, do not get their insides coaled with silver in tho same fashion. How else can the constant and mysterious disap[H}aranco of the specie bo accounted tor? Louisville Journal. (Published by request.) THIi HATTLl': OF DRIJMCLOG. "It was on a fair Sabbath morning in Juno, of A. I). 1671), that an assembly of Covenanters sat down on the healthd mountains of Drumclog. We had as.sembled not to fight—but lo worship tho God of our fathers. We W(!ro far from tho lumi'll of cilies-Tho long dark heath waved around us. And we disturbed no living creatures, saving the pee-swcep,* and the heather cock. As usual we had como armed. It was for self-defence. For desperate and ferocious Iwnds made bloody roads ihrough the country. And pretending to put down treason, they waged war against religion and morals. They spread ruin haviK'k o\or the face of bleeding Scotland. The venerable Douglass had cornmcnced tho so lomnilies ofthe day. Ho was e.K|>aliatingon the execrable evils of tyranny. Our souls were on fire altho remembrance of our country's sufferings, and iho wrongs of the church. In this nwment ol in tense feeling, our watchman |>osted at tho neighboring height tirod his carabine, and ran toward the congregation. Ho announced i*>o approach of the enemy. We raised our eyes lo the minister. "1 have done," said Douglass, with his usual firmness. "You havo got the theory—now for the |>raclice; you know your duty; a«lf<defonce is always lawful. But tho enemy appro«che«.^ He raiaed his eyes to heaven and uttered a prayer-brief and emphatic—like the prayer of Riehi>rd Oemeron. «'Lord spare tho green-^nd take the ripe." The officers collected their men, and placed »hem selves each at tho head of those of his own diatriel. Sir Robert Hamilton placed the foot in the crntre in threo ranks, A company of horses, well trnted and mounted, was placed on the left; and a small squadron also on the left. These were dmwn back,and they occupied the more solid ground; as well with a view to have a more firm footiog, as to arrest any flanking party that might take them on the wings. A deep morass lay between us and the ground of the enemy. Our aged men, our females and children retired. But they retired slowly. They had the hearts and the courage of the females and'children in those day s of intense religious feeling, and of suffering. They manifested more concern for the fate of relatives—lor the fate of the church, than for their own personal safety. As Cleverhouse descended the opposite mountains, they retired to the rising ground in the rear of our host. The aged n»6n walked with their bpnnets in hand. Their long grey locks waved in ihe breeze. They sang a cheering psalm. The music was that ofthe well known tune of the "Martyrs;" and the sentiment breathed def.ance. The music floated down on the wind. Our men gave them three cheers as they fell into their ranks. Never did 1 witness such animation in the lo<iks of men. For me, my spouse, and my little children were in the rear. My native plains, and the halls of my fathers, far below, in the dale of Avnr, wore full in view from the heights which we occupied. My country seemed to raiso her voice—the bleeiling church seemed to wail aloud. "And these," I said, as Clavers and his troops winded slowly down the dark mountain's side, "these are the unworthy slave.s, and bloody executioners, by which the tyrant completes our miseries." Hamilton here displayed the hero. His portly figure was seen hastening from rank to rank. He inspired courage into our raw and undisciplined troops. The brave Hackslone, and Hall, of Haugh-head, stood at the head of tho foot, and re-echoed the sentiment of their chief. Burly and Cleland had inflamed the minds ofthe horsemen on the left, lo a noble enthusiasm. My small troop on the right, needed no exhortation . We weie a band of brothers, resolved to conquer or fall. Tho trumpet of Clavers sounded a note of defiance. The kettle-drum mi.xed ils tumultuous roll. They halted. They made a long pause. We could see an officer with four tile, conducting fifteen persons from the ranks, to a knoll on their left, I could perceive one in black, ll was my friend King, the chaplain of Lord Cardross, who had be«n taken prisoner by Clavers at Hamilton. "Let :lii in be shot through the head," said Clavers with Ins usuul dry way, "if they should offer to run a-vv.iy." We ooiiM pee him view our |x)sition with great care. His oiliccr.<« came around him. We .-oon learned that he wished lo treat with us. He never Itelrayed symptoms of mercy or of justice; nor offered terms of reconciliation,unless when he dreaded that he hod met his match. And even then it w as only a inanrouvro tog^in time, or to deceive. His ting approaclicd the edge of the bog. Sir. Hobni t belli a flag sa' red; had it been borne by Clavers biin-'elf, he bad honoured it. He demanded the burposo for « nich he came. "I came," said be, "in the name of his sacred inojesty, and of colonel Graliame, to ofler you a pardon on condition that you lay down your arms and deliver up your ringleaders." "Tell you' officer," said Sir Robert, "that we are fully aware of the deception Iw practises. Ho is not clothed with any imvvcrs to treal, nor was he sent out to treat with us and attempt a reconciliation. The government against whom we have risen refuses to rcdr(;ss our grievances, or to restorr" us our liberties. Had the ty rant wished to tender us justice he liatl not sent by tho hands of such a ferocious assassin as ("levcrhou.se. Let him, however, show his powers, and wo refuse not to treat. And we shall lay down our arms to treat provided that he also lay down his. Thou hast my answer." "It is a hopeless case," said Burly, while ho called after tho flag. "Let me add one word, by your leave, general. "Get thee up lo that bloody cragoon, Clavers, and tell him that we will spare his life, and the lives of his troops, on condition thai ho, your Clavers, lay down his arms and tho arms of these troops. We will do more, as we have no prisoners on the.se wild inountaius, we will even let him goon his parolo on condition that he swear never to lift arms against the religion and the liberties of his country." A loud burst of applause re-echoed from tho ranks. And after a *AugUce, Teewit, or lapwing. one blazing sheet of llame, for several mirinles h-long the line ofthe Covenallter^■. Cl iversatiempt-ed to cross the morass »niJ biet.k our centre. "Spear men! to the front"—! could bear ihe deep toned voice of Hamilton soy—"Kneel and place yourjspears tojeoeive the enemy's cavalry. And you my gallant fellows, fire—and our Country, is our word." Our officers flew fiom rank to rank. Not a peasant gave way that day. As the smoke rolled off, we could see Clavors urging on hii ni6a with the violence of despair. His troop« fell in heaps around him. And still the gaps were filled up. A galled trooper would owau'onally flinch. But ere he could I urn.orfleH,t he sword of Clavers was waving over his head. I could aee bim in bis fi»ry strike both man and horse. lothe (Warful carnage he himself sometimes reeled. He would stop short in the midst of a movement: ihtnr contrafict his own orders, and strike the man because he could not comprehend his meaning. He ordered flanking parties to lake us on our right and left. "In ihe name of God," cried he "cross the bog; and charge thern on the flanks, till we get over this morasr. If this fail, we are lost." It now fell to my lot lo come into action. Hitherto we had fired only some distent shot. A gallant officer led his band down on the borders of^he swamp, in search of a proper place to cross. We threw ourselves before him. A severe firing commenced. My gallant men fired with great steadiness. We could see many tumbling from their saddles. Not content with repelling the foemen, wo found our opportunity to cross, and attacked them sword in hand. The captain; whose name I afterwards ascerinined to bo Arrol,threw himself in my path. In the first shock, I discharged my pis-lols. His sudden start in his saddle told me that one of them had taken eflect. With one ofthe tremendous oaths of Charles II. he closed with me. He fired his steel pistol;—I was in front of him. My sword glanced on the weapon, and gave a direction to the bullet, which saved my life. By this time my men had driven the enemy before them; and had left the ground clear for the single combat. As ho made a lounge at my breast, 1 turned his sword aside: and by one of those sweeping blows, which are rather tho dictate ofa kind of instinct of self defence, than a movement of art. As our strokes redoubled, my antagonist's dark features put on a look of deep and settled ferocity. No man, who has not encountered the steel of his enemy in the field of battle, can conceive the looks, and the manner ofthe warrior in the movements of bis in-tcndc feelings. May I never witness them again. We fought in silence. My stroke fell on his left shoulder—it cut tho belt of his carabine which fell to the ground. His blow cut me to the rih,glanced along the bone, and rid me also of the weight of my cararbine. HeShad, now, advanced too near roe to be struck with the sword. I grasped him by the collar. I pushed him backward; and with an entangled blow of iny Ferrara I struck himacross his throat, it cut only the strap of his head-piece, &c it foil off. VVi;h u sudden spring he seizM me by tilt sword belt;—our horses reared, and we both came to the ground. We rolled on the heath in deadly conflict, ll was in this situation of matters ihft my brave fellows had returned from the rout of the flanking party, to look after their commander. One of them was actually rushing on my antagonist, when 1 called to him to retire.* We started to our feet. Each grasped his sword. We closed in conflict aga.n. After parrying strokes of mine enemy which indicated a hellish ferocity, I told him my object was lo take him prisoner; that sooner than kill him I should order my men to Koi/.e him. "Sooner lei my soul bo branded on my ribs in hell," said he, "than be captured by a Whig-amore. No quarter is the word of my colonel, and my word. Have at thee, whig—1 dare the whole of you lo the combat." "Leave the madman to me —leave the field instantly," said I to my party whom I could hardly restrain. My sword fell on his right shoulder. His sword dropt from his hand. I lowered my sword and offered him his life. ''JY® said he with a shriek of despair. He snatched his sword w hich I held in my band, and made a lunge at my breast. I parried his blows till he was nearly exhausted. Hut gathering up his huge limbs, he put forth all bis energy m a long pause in deep silence the urmy sang the psalm thrust at my heart. My Andro Ferrara received it yet sung in the Scottish churches. .....- - "There arrows ofthe bow ho break The shield, tho sword, the war; More glorious those than hills of ¡¡rey Moro exculent art far. Those that are stout of heart are spoiled. They sleep their sleep outri;xbt, And none of them their hands did lind That wore the men of miglit," Arc. When tho report was made lo Claverhouse, he gave tho word with a savage ferocity. " Thero blood be on their own heads. Bo no ¡¡uarters tho word this day."* liis fierce dragoons raised s yell. And no quarters re-echoed from rank to ra k, while they gallo|H»d down the mountain's side, ll is stated ihat Burly was heard to say, "Thun bo it so—even lot thure Ihj f»<) ^uaritTs—ut least in my wing ofthe host. So God send me a nHOiing," cried he aloud,"with that chief under the white plume. My country would bless my momory, could my sword give his villainous curcasu to ihi* crows." Our raw troops beheld, with firmness, the approach of the foemen. And at the moment w hen theenemy halted to fire, the wholu of uur troop dropped on the heath. Nota man was seen to remain down, when the order was given to rise and return the fire. The first rank lirud,then kneeled down while ihe second fired. I'hey mado each bullet tell. As often as the laay rolling smoke was carried over the enemy^t heads, n shower of bullets fell on his ranks. Many a galluut man tumbled on the heath. The fire vat iaoeasunt. It resemUtd *Thi8 fact I find stated «tao in the •Scots W«r> tbiss,' p. 398 Kdiub. £dit. of 18 U. so as to weaken its deadly force. But it made a Icep cut. Though I was faint with loss ol blood, I left him no time for another blow. My sword lanced on his shoulder, cut through his buff coat, and skin, and flesh; swept through his jaw and laid open his throat from ear lo ear. Tbo fire of his fe-rcjcious eye wa.s (pienched in a moment. He reeled. And fulling with a terrible clash, he poured out his soul with a torrent of blood on the heath. I unk down insensible for a moment. My faithful men, who never lu«l sight of me. raised me up. In the tierce conihHt, the soldier «uffers most from thirst. 1 stooped down to fill my helmet wilh the water which oozol ihrough the morass. It was deeply tinged w ii/i liuman Lloi^, which floived in the conflict above me. 1 slarled back with horror. And Guwn Wiiherspxou hi ii giiig up my steed, wo set forward in the tmnull of the biit'lo. All this w hilc llu.' stoi 111 of war rugeil on our left. Cleland and the fieico Ikn ly hu<l cha gvd the strong comi'any sent lo flunk iik-iii. Thu^ ollicers per-uiitted tliem to cross tl.c swamp; then charged them «kith a terrible shout. "No quarter'," cried the diagoons. "lie no quarters to you, thoa, ye murderous loons" ci ied Burl; . And at one blow 1« out their leader through the stoel cup; and Mattered his brains on his followers. His every Mew o> verlhrew u fooman. Thero whtde foreiM brought up; and they drove the dragooM o(. ers in the swamp. They rolled over each ollwr. All stuck fast. The covenanters dismounted, ami fought ou foot. They loll not one man to bear tb« tidings to their colonel. *It was ou this ocoasion tlie Laird used tbese wordK:—'Bauldy AlUsod! let youroiileer Mtile thla uifld^I never lake odda to ooinbat a ibe—b« heeTCH a life gturd.' ;
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I bet it was so nice to meet another cyclist!!!! Also sounds like it wasn't a bad place to sleep. Do hope you's had a good nite's rest.
Meeting our first fellow cycle tourist
Trip Start Oct 16, 2012
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We cycled along rolling hills for a couple of hours and stopped a couple of times to eat some fruit, drink some water and snap some photos. We were surrounded by agricultural land with cattle grazing on either side. At around 11am we saw that the road snaked down into a deep valley and climbed up the other side to another ridge. The views from here were spectacular and we saw dramatic rocky hills jutting up from the valley floor
We coasted down into the valley and stopped numerous times to enjoy the downhill and take photos. The uphill on the other hand wasn't so easy and it took us a while to climb back out of the valley. The main problem was that as we were plodding along slowly, with laboured breathing, pouring out sweat, with sunglasses steaming up, gradually making it up the hill, in a trance like state with legs rhythmically spinning, when all of a sudden a dog would bark and chase after us. We haven't really had the problem much in Colombia so far but the dogs in this valley were guard dogs rather than friendly pets. They seemed to enjoy nothing more than noisily jumping out at us when we least expected it, sending our heart racing even more and giving us a good surge of adrenaline. Thankfully as soon as we stopped and shouted at them they would run back to their homes or at least cease their chase but they definitely gave me a fright a couple of times.
When we finally reached the top we pulled into the first restaurant and met Rasmus, a 25 year old Swedish cycle tourist who was going the same way as we are. He had set off half an hour before us in the morning and after completing the climb had stopped at the first restaurant as well. We chatted over lunch and decided to cycle along together for the rest of the afternoon. It was his second time cycling in South America but his first time in Colombia.
After lunch we all headed off together and enjoyed the new scenery as the dramatic hills continued in a wide valley
We went with Rasmus for an early dinner at 5pm and then almost straight away afterwards he hit the hay. Well, that is a bit boring, even for Kory and I, but after the sun had set there wasn't much else to do, so we retired to our tent and played cards for a while. What we hadn't realised was that the fire station area was also used as a mechanics/spare parts yard and trucks were arriving and leaving all evening, which might not make for the most restful sleep.


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Oct 26, 2013 at 7:35 am #1309147
About 4 years ago our old Vango car camping tent got thrashed on a site in the Vosge Mountains in France and we had to get a new one and so I got tasked with finding a new home away from home.
My wife's requirements where:
At least 4 person
Have decent height
Plenty of storage space,
My requirements
Handle 40mph winds (any stronger than that we would be heading home or to a hotel)
Pitch in 5 minutes
Bright enough to pick out among hundreds of other tents at big Europeam music festivals.
After much resarch we settled on the marmot Halo 4p, we probaly have about 40 nights in it now and wife calls in Chateau Marmot, we are very impressed with it.
Unfortunately I don't have any pics of it to hand but "acquired" some from Google images.
Oct 26, 2013 at 7:52 am #2037961
Tim ZenSpectator
@asdzxc57Locale: MI
Wow! You could put cots in there!Oct 26, 2013 at 7:55 am #2037962
Yep, cots would definitley fit.Oct 26, 2013 at 8:23 am #2037966
Charles PSpectator
@mediaurasLocale: Terra
We have the same tent for family car camping (there's 4 of us). I love it! Man, its huge but with a low profile, well made and bomber, and I really like the light it produces. Its gorgeous in the morning.Oct 26, 2013 at 8:30 am #2037971
It sure is a nice tent, I bought it in Uk so it cost about 350$ at the time and worth every penny.
We have often camped in strong winds when other car camping tents are getting hammered and the Halo is solid as a rock.
I like that he side ventilation slots can be zipped up if breezy, I think it has about 5 foot of head room which is not bad at all.Oct 26, 2013 at 9:11 am #2037981
Max DiltheySpectator
@mdiltheyLocale: MaxTheCyclist.com
Neat! My home away from home is a lot smaller (my car is a bike).
I was all over hammocks, but having your own "room" is something I find to be quite comfortable and worth sleeping on the ground for. Most of the time.Oct 26, 2013 at 9:16 am #2037985
I would like to try some bike camping trips at some stage, we would probaly use a Golite Sl3 or Tarp Tent Ss1 for that purpose but my wife sure does love the space in our Hilleberg Kaitum 3 and probaly would insist it comes with us.
:-)Oct 26, 2013 at 9:30 am #2037993
Max, you just need a bigger tarp with end doors to go with your hammock. You can pole out one side for "porch mode" or tuck it all in for privacy.
We have a big Eureka 9×12 tent for car camping. A big tent is great when you can leave it up for a few days. We had a monster Coleman dome tent years ago that we had great road trips with. We had a huge mattress and used crates for stowing gear in my pickup. It was our dome way from home :)
We used an MSR Missing Link this summer and were very happy with that, but no standing room. Plenty of storage space and a spot for the dog too. The single skin design is quick to set up and takes up little room in the car.Oct 26, 2013 at 9:34 am #2037998
Justin McCabeMember
@justinmcLocale: Southern California
I absolutely love our REI Basecamp 6 (they also have an 8 person). The vestibule isn't as robust as the Marmot, but has always been adequate for us (plus I add a tarp over the vestibule anyways). The walls appear slightly less vertical, so if your Marmot held up to the wind, this definitely will.Oct 26, 2013 at 10:32 am #2038031
Its definitely good in the wind for its size and shape but if possible I try to pitch one of the ends in to the wind as the porches are far more aerodynamic.Oct 26, 2013 at 11:26 am #2038049
I would look for a tent with a rainfly that reaches as close to the ground as possible and has extra guy line options about halfway up the sides. Those features will help in the wind. Doors in the fly that can be completely zipped up will help too.
For hot summer use, you want big doors and windows for good flow-through ventilation.
I like pole clips vs sleeves. Getting the tent erected is the challenge and the main event is getting the second pole in place and pulling the tent fabric up in place. Tents that have arched poles that hold the fly up over the doors are easier to set up than ones with one pole that runs across the top. The other main event is getting the fly up over the erected tent inner— they can slide off and be a slapstick comedy routine for one person to accomplish until a couple corners are secured.Oct 26, 2013 at 11:58 am #2038061
hwc 1954Member
I also have a Marmot Halo 4 for car camping. Picked it up on sale for $299 in the US. It's been awesome so far. Big, 8 foot by 8 foot square. Fully guy'd out, it's really stable for a 3-season car camping tent. The dome shape and the beefy 12mm DAC poles help.
Easy for one person to set up and take down. Great ventilation and, on cold nights, I appreciate being able to zip closed the ground level vents that run along two opposite sides. The roof vents in the fly are one of the big reasons I bought this tent.
I can confirm that there is room for cots. I have used a large Cabelas cot in mine. Although, if you were always camping with two cots, I'd probably get the bigger 6P version of the tent.
Here are couple of photos of mine. These were taken just as the sun was coming up, so the camera flash lit up the reflective logos:Oct 26, 2013 at 12:41 pm #2038078
Nice pics, I agree about the 6pm, if I was to do it again I would go for that one but no big deal.
The poles are very sturdy.Oct 26, 2013 at 2:48 pm #2038118
hwc 1954Member
The downside of the 6 person version is that it probably isn't as wind resistant. Same poles, but a much larger profile. The 4 person version is really solid. Also, I think the 6P tent would be too large for some of the sites where I camp. Add it in the vestibules and it's a very large tent. I think it's big enough that it would be a struggle for one person to put up. Big advantage, I guess, is that you can fully stand up in the 6P.
All things considered, I think the Halo 4P is a perfect compromise for 2 person car camping, even in pretty bad weather. I've only seen one reference to the Halo 4 failing in wind: thunderstorm with hail and 60 mph wind. Tent held up OK until they unzipped the door and the wind got inside the vestibule and collapsed the tent. But, I'm not going car camping if the forecast includes storms with 60 mph wind. Or, if I did, I'd take my 4 season tent. :)Oct 26, 2013 at 3:25 pm #2038137
That's good points on the 6p, the 4p definitely is perfect for 2 people for car camping.
I agree with you, if the forecast was that bad I would be asking a Hilleberg :-)Oct 26, 2013 at 7:30 pm #2038184
Our car tent. A Maggiolina from Italy. I have no business affiliations with the company, but these tents are the bomb and last for decades.
http://Www.autohomeus.comOct 26, 2013 at 7:34 pm #2038186
Nice FJ Cruiser and tent :-)
I wanted to get an FJ myself but ended up with a 4 runner instead.Oct 26, 2013 at 7:47 pm #2038192
Thank you. We have had this tent up in 60 mph winds, a tornado went over us on the North Rim of GC and it did fine. And numerous hard rain and snowstorms. It's warm and snug, there is a collapsing ladder inside that we install on the side entry. We no longer worry about bugs in bed, rattlesnakes or bears.:-) and it stays clean inside.Oct 26, 2013 at 11:29 pm #2038219
BER —BPL Member
@berLocale: Wisconsin
We love our Kaitum 3 as well, but now have switched to the TT cloudburst 3 for our summer tent. Same roominess as the Kaitum 3 at half the weight. I recently picked up a Nemo Pentalite 4 with the Wedge insert here from another BPL member for car camping with our dog. Rather a steal for $300. Haven't used it yet, but have set it up in the yard and think it will work smashingly for this use. Nice height (nearly 6 feet) and lots of room for 2 plus dog. Wouldn't want to have to carry it in a backpack very far, but for the car…
I think the tipi shape will work well with winds. It has plenty of guy outs for additional support.
I love those rooftop popups, but no way am I lifting our dog up there. I don't think she'll do well on a ladder :)Oct 26, 2013 at 11:55 pm #2038222
Our dog sleeps in his special bed in the car.Oct 27, 2013 at 8:39 am #2038259
Great Photo Desert Dweller :-)
Hi Ber,
The Kaitum 3 is great tent, probably the best I have ever owned.
I looked at the Cloudburst 3 but the lack of a separate inner put me off.Oct 27, 2013 at 9:08 am #2038265
As I was reading through the posts, it struck me that one of the big center pole UL tents could do double duty as hiking and car camping shelter. Something like a Shangrila 5 would be fun to have in a lot of places. If you wanted to go that direction, one of the big tipi style tents with a wood stove option would really be like having a portable cabin.Oct 27, 2013 at 9:19 am #2038270
BER —BPL Member
@berLocale: Wisconsin
Hey Stephen,
Dont let the lack of inner put you off from the CB3. At least for warmer temperatures it worked out really well. Perhaps in colder temperatures if might not have the same level of insulation as the Katitum3. But the CB3 buttons down pretty tight when needed. Ventilation is excellent, but again when closed up, is not overtly drafty.
I agree with Dale's comment. The Nemo Pentalite 4 falls into this catagory.Oct 27, 2013 at 9:32 am #2038271
Hi Dale,
I am not looking for a new tent at all, I was just telling folk about my search for one in the past and what I got :-)Oct 27, 2013 at 9:35 am #2038274
Hi Ber,
Its not about insulation that put me off, its just I prefer that have a separate inner so I can use the outer by itself of no bugs around, its also easier to dry the tent.
The Sl5 would make a good car camping tent, we have an Sl3 for when we are out for just one night.
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