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THE CYBERNETIC BRAIN: Sketches of Another Future. Andrew Pickering. x + 526 pp. University of Chicago Press, 2010. $55.
In 1948 the British neurologist W. Grey Walter began work on a pair of robotic "tortoises"—three-wheeled creatures named Elmer and Elsie that crawled around on the floor seeking light, avoiding obstacles and even engaging in a kind of mating dance. Elmer and Elsie were a big hit at public demonstrations and in a BBC newsreel; Walter also wrote a book about them, as well as two Scientific American articles. And the tortoises had a lasting influence; for example, they inspired the "turtle geometry" that animated computer graphics 30 years later.
Walter's tortoises were an experiment in cybernetics—a word that was still shiny and new then, having been coined by Norbert Wiener just a year earlier. Cybernetics drew heavily on ideas from control theory and the design of servomechanisms, but the aim was to achieve something more than just the stable, self-regulating feedback loops of thermostats or float valves. The cyberneticians wanted to build systems with a capacity for boredom and curiosity, fatigue and excitement, learning and forgetting, and maybe even desire and fear. Most of all they wanted to model the brain.
The British cybernetics community of the late 1940s and early 1950s was small but enthusiastic. They even had a club, called the Ratio Club, which met in a basement room of the National Hospital for Nervous Diseases in London. The club attracted a diverse membership: Alan Turing was a mathematician and pioneer of computing, I. J. Good a mathematician and statistician, Tommy Gold an astrophysicist. But most of the members came from the neurosciences, psychology or psychiatry (which explains the choice of meeting place). Walter was one of the neuro specialists, an expert in electroencephalography. (He discovered theta and delta brain waves.) Another active member, W. Ross Ashby, was the director of a psychiatric hospital in Gloucester. Like Walter, Ashby took up a soldering iron to build cybernetic machines in his spare time.
Andrew Pickering's new book, The Cybernetic Brain, examines the lives and works of six figures in the British cybernetics community, starting with Walter and Ashby. The other four subjects are Gregory Bateson, an anthropologist who turned to psychiatry late in his career; R. D. Laing, a radical psychiatrist (or "antipsychiatrist"); Stafford Beer, who applied cybernetic principles to business management (and also to the national economy of Chile); and finally Gordon Pask, the only one of the bunch who could claim cybernetics as a profession rather than a sideline. In this review I cannot do justice to all six of these stories, so I am going to focus mainly on Walter and Ashby, the pioneers.
The British variant of cybernetics emphasized machines that act rather than machines that think; in Pickering's terms, the distinction is between the performative and the cognitive aspects of the brain. The aim was to model things we do without necessarily being able to articulate how we do them—walking, breathing, maintaining a steady body temperature. Walter's tortoises offer a good illustration, with their goal-directed behavior. They were attracted to light, unless it was too bright, in which case they were repelled by it. They also modified their behavior according to their own internal state, adjusting their brightness threshold when their batteries ran low. (The charging station had a bright lamp.) What the tortoises did not have was any mental representation of the world they moved through, or any semblance of consciousness. This is hardly a surprise: The tortoise brain consisted of two vacuum tubes and a few relays.
In spite of this simplicity, Elmer and Elsie were capable of surprising their creator. Each tortoise had a pilot light that turned on when the tortoise was scanning the environment in search of a new light source; then the light winked off as soon as the tortoise locked onto a beacon. Given a mirror, the tortoise would be attracted to its own light, but locking onto the light immediately extinguished it. In front of the mirror, the tortoise began "flickering, twittering and jigging like a clumsy Narcissus."
Ashby's first foray into cybernetic machinery was a device he called the homeostat. This one didn't crawl around on the floor. It was a box with lots of knobs and switches, and a pivoting vane on top. Three electrical inputs determined (in a complicated way) a single output current, whose level was indicated by the pivoting vane. One homeostat in isolation didn't do much; it was designed to hold the output current steady, so that the vane would remain in the middle of its range. But when Ashby wired four homeostats together—with each output becoming an input to another unit—things got interesting, if not chaotic. Each unit tried to maintain its output current near the midpoint, but the balance was upset by fluctuations in the inputs from other units; the resulting excursions in output were then fed back to the other units' inputs, and so the disturbance continued to circulate through the system. An open question was whether the oscillations would settle down to some stable state, and how long that would take.
It's fair to ask at this point what all these electronic black boxes and cute kitchen-floor robots could possibly have to do with the brain and psychiatry. Ashby thought that the brain might well be an adaptive, self-organizing device something like his network of homeostats. An incoming stimulus would create a disturbance that could rattle around among the units for a while, until the system reached some stable equilibrium, which would constitute the brain's response to that stimulus. The final configuration would depend on both the stimulus and the system's internal state—indeed, its entire history. Again, however, there was the question of whether convergence to a stable state was guaranteed, and how long it might take to achieve. Ashby's estimate was not encouraging. In a fully connected network, with every unit's output going to every other unit's input, he found that the settling time would exceed the age of the universe, even for fairly small networks. Thus if the homeostat mechanism is to be salvaged as the basis of a theory of the brain, connectivity must be severely limited.
Ashby wrote in his diary that his cybernetic experiments were merely an amusement and a hobby, unrelated to his professional responsibilities of caring for psychiatric patients. Pickering refuses to accept this disclaimer; he sees links between the cybernetic hobby and treatments for mental illness, notably electroconvulsive shock and prefrontal lobotomy. Pickering writes:
[I]t is hard not to relate Ashby's later thoughts on the density of connections between homeostat units, and their time to reach equilibrium, with lobotomy. Perhaps the density of neural interconnections can somehow grow so large that individuals can never come into equilibrium with their surroundings, so severing a few connections surgically might enable them to function better.
Pickering goes on to remark, "Ashby often failed to drive home these points in print, but that proves very little." This strikes me as a rather high-handed rhetorical maneuver, insisting on what Ashby must have believed even while acknowledging that he didn't quite say it. Yet the supposition is not utterly far-fetched; there's no doubt that Ashby was indeed a proponent of therapeutic interventions such as electroconvulsive shock.
The evidence is clearer in the case of Walter. After Elmer and Elsie, Walter built a second generation of tortoises to explore capacities for memory and learning. He found that conflicting stimuli could induce an "experimental neurosis." Walter wrote:
The "instinctive" attraction to a light is abolished and the model can no longer approach its source of nourishment. This state seems remarkably similar to the neurotic behavior produced in human beings by exposure to conflicting influences or inconsistent education.
Pickering comments: "[A]fter driving his tortoises mad, Walter cured them." He proposed three therapies: leaving the machine without stimuli for a while, switching it off and on, and disconnecting some of the circuits. And Walter made the psychiatric analogy overt:
Psychiatrists also resort to these stratagems—sleep, shock and surgery. To some people the first seems natural, the second repulsive, and the third abhorrent. . . . [B]ut our simple models would indicate that, insofar as the power to learn implies the danger of breakdown, simplification by direct attack may well and truly arrest the accumulation of self-sustaining antagonism and "raze out the written troubles of the brain."
For the one other professional psychiatrist among Pickering's six subjects—R. D. Laing—links to cybernetic ideas are tenuous. Pickering admits that "Laing did not describe himself as a cybernetician," but Pickering nonetheless sees something cybernetic about Laing's "rumpus room" approach to psychotherapy, in which patients and caregivers "were left to adjust and adapt to one another, without any prescription how that should be accomplished." I suppose there's an echo here of the homeostat network settling toward equilibrium, but it's an awfully faint echo.
Gregory Bateson also gains entry to this group because of his work in psychiatry—one aspect of a highly varied career—and he at least had a clear connection with the cybernetic community, as a founder of a conference series on cybernetics in the 1940s. His psychiatric work hinged on the idea of the double bind, a situation in which none of the available responses is satisfactory, as with Walter's neurotic robots.
With Stafford Beer and Gordon Pask, cybernetics moves well beyond the mechanistic models of Walter and Ashby and also leaves behind the preoccupation with understanding the brain and the mind. Beer's early interests were operations research and business management, and he drew up plans for running a steel mill as a "cybernetic factory." He also explored biological computing and at one point thought of recruiting a pond ecosystem as the manager of a factory. Then he went to Chile during the regime of Salvador Allende to manage the nation's economy on cybernetic principles.
Pask had an early encounter with Norbert Wiener and was so impressed that he wound up earning a doctoral degree in cybernetics. (There can't be many of those.) He worked in the theater (creating lighting systems that adapt to the performer) and architecture (designing buildings that adapt to their occupants). He also developed teaching machines and chemical computers.
In The Cybernetic Brain Pickering has gathered a trove of stories about a community whose work deserves to be better known. He has done careful and thorough historical research, reading diaries and other unpublished material; in one case he fills in details of a project that had almost sunk from memory—Ashby's failed attempt to follow up on the homeostat work with a more elaborate system called DAMS. Pickering has also traced the ramifications of cybernetic thought into dozens of surprising (and sometimes dark) corners: the novels of William Burroughs, the music of Brian Eno and that of John Cage, biofeedback, the hallucinogenic drug culture of the 1960s, the cellular automata of Stephen Wolfram, the architectural patterns of Christopher Alexander, the robots of Rodney Brooks. And he makes acute observations about the social context of cybernetics: For many practitioners it remained a sideline or a kitchen-table hobby simply because it never became an established academic discipline or had much institutional support.
The stories told here are deeply engaging. I am grateful to have them. However, I must add that they are told and interpreted from an ideological viewpoint that I find silly and exasperating. Pickering's aim in this book is not just to revive interest in cybernetics; he wants "to challenge the hegemony of modernity." And modern, in Pickering's vocabulary, is a word that refers not to chronology but to attitude or sensibility. Modern science is not just science as it happens to be practiced now; it is the science of cause and effect, of command and control. The ambition of modern science, he writes, is "the achievement of general knowledge that will enable us to calculate (or, retrospectively, explain) why things in the world go this way or that." These are not words of praise.
For Pickering, cybernetics offers a nonmodern alternative, a science that can focus on performing rather than knowing, engaging with the world without trying to control it or even, perhaps, to understand it—rather like Elmer and Elsie bumbling toward their charging station. He wants to celebrate the "ontology of unknowability," resisting the scientist's urge to open up the black box, catalogue its parts and draw a diagram of how it works. The "sketches of another future" in Pickering's subtitle refer to his wistful hope that the world might make room for such a nonanalytic science.
I am moved to respond to this notion on two levels. First, although the various gadgets built by Walter and Ashby were more performative than cognitive, that's surely not true of Walter and Ashby themselves. They wanted not just to model brainlike behavior but to understand how the model worked, and ultimately to gain some insight into how the brain itself works. Stafford Beer later argued that some systems are so complex that true understanding will always elude us. He may have been right, but that does not blunt the desire. As David Hilbert put it: "We must know. We will know."
Second, it is helpful to keep in mind that we usually speak of cybernetics in the past tense, and for good reasons. The framework of ideas erected by Wiener, Walter, Ashby and their followers was not a failure or a dead end, but it is not the armature on which recent students of the brain or of other complex systems choose to build their theories. In computer science these days, the most devastating criticism that can be leveled against an idea is that "it doesn't scale"—it might work for small problem instances but not for big ones. The methods of Walter and Ashby didn't scale, as they discovered for themselves when they tried to build systems larger than a two-tube tortoise or a four-unit network of homeostats. Their work is no less fascinating for that, but it remains another past, not another future.
Brian Hayes is Senior Writer for American Scientist. He is the author most recently of Group Theory in the Bedroom, and Other Mathematical Diversions (Hill and Wang, 2008).
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Thank you, Jan, this is helpful. I'm working on both fmq and straight lines all the time. I bought the Line Tamer ruler at Four Paws Quilting to use with the Sweet Sixteen and it's really helpful.
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Thank you, Jan, this is helpful. I'm working on both fmq and straight lines all the time. I bought the Line Tamer ruler at Four Paws Quilting to use with the Sweet Sixteen and it's really helpful.
Of course the needle is down, so now I leave the needle down and lift the presser foot. It's amazing how much the fabric moves. After the fabric is lying smooth and relaxed, I can start sewing again. No more jumping. Just takes a split second to lift the presser foot and look at the fabric around the needle. Sometimes it just pops back into place.
I couldn't FMQ without gloves. Even the cheapy vinyl gloves work.
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I have only FMQ four quilts on my DHM. I was very happy with the first one (after some practicing on sandwiches). The second one - not so hot. I seemed to have gotten worse. But I persisted and on the third one it was much better. I'm very pleased with the fourth quilt. I haven't used gloves yet because I had some of the rubber finger tips already and I put them on my middle fingers and thumbs. I have much better control then. I may get the gloves and try that as my fingers do sweat with the rubber tips - but that also gives me a short break when I'm FMQ to stop and take them off for just a bit. Helps me to relax too. Have fun above all else.
This is so true. I couldn't do FMQ at all for the longest time. It just looked BAD, the thread broke, there were knots, etc. Then one day without feeling like I changed anything, I looked OK. I figure if I keep plugging away at OK, it will magically look good one day.
On the other hand, there is no law that quilters must ever use FMQ. Many beautiful quilts are done with designs that can be done with a walking foot.
Thanks Jan, I too missed this chart the first time around. Glad you posted again.
FM is something you got to work at. Then one day it just clicks, you improve more and more. Not something you can learn in an hour. I have people ask me quite often to teach them FM, I tell them it is something you got to have lot's of patience and practice to make it work. You can do it, if you want, just persistence.
Don't feel alone, common subject on the board. What struck me with the listing was 25 replies to 1000+ views. You hit the nail on the head for a large group of people.
I love fmq, and I hate sitd. I have a Pfaff Quilt Expression 2.0 which sews like an absolute dream and I love the IDT, but I cannot get my stitches to stay in the ditch. With fmq I don't have to worry about that. No, my stitches are not all the same length, but I have decided that they should not be. With shorter stitches I can turn tighter curves and do finer detail, but I don't like really short stitches on wider turns and longer runs of stitches. I still find that I am very satisfied with the overall look.
My fmq is not totally free hand work. I quite often cut templates from free applique or coloring book shapes that I get online. I meander loops or leaves or hearts or whatever and stitch around the template periodically. I gave up trying to stipple as I always worked myself into a corner and had to do a loop or double back to get out of it. A meander with interspersed shapes works well. I put arrowheads, bears, and kokopeli on a western theme quilt and butterflies, daisies, and bees on a garden theme (flowers) quilt.
Don't try to copy others work. Just keep trying and keep practicing until you find what you are comfortable with. Oh, you've also got to be relaxed. Just let your fingers guide the quilt where it "feels" right. Also, don't try to fight the quilt or force it to go somewhere. If a stitch or two take off in the wrong direction just go with it and make a loop or something to bring it back where you wanted it.
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If desired, a bride could have her hairpiece tailor made to her liking. For the bride who might not have an abundant budget, she could simply find her veil or hairpiece in a less expensive boutique. Another approach to saving money on a hairpiece or veil, is to have the bride make it herself. Some of the most beautiful pieces can be found by those who take matters into their own hands and create a work of art. However, for the bride who has no spending limit, a diamond tiara would appeal to any over the top gown. Whatever the theme or budget, a bride should feel stunning on her special day whether she is wearing a veil, tiara, or any other type of hairpiece.


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Does anyone have personal experience with this line of gluten free pastas?
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Does anyone have personal experience with this line of gluten free pastas?
They are fantastic especially the boxed meals like hamburger helper's. My DH has celiac and I make them when I need a quick supper. Very tasty!! Hope this helps.Originally Posted by kso
Kathi in PA
I do use Mrs. Leeper's gluten free products, they are very good. One word of caution I would recommend is that you do not over cook the noodles.
Another very good product is Domata Living Flour, Inc. WWW.domatalivingflour.com. My daughter and I have been using this product for years. And if your lucky to find the schar products (from Germany). I am told they just started selling in the states a few years ago, however I have yet to find the product. But the pasta is excellent. Hope this helps you. I have been CD since 1992.
Mrs Leepers product are my favorite pasta next to Schar products from Italy. We can buy both at our local meijer store. I have been Celiac and on the gluten free diet for 9 years. If you have not tried Udi's bread Please try it, it is awesome.
I'm noticing recently gluten free seems to be gaining popularity. I understand for celiac patients but may I ask what exactly is gluten and why is it good for all us to avoid it? Any input greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Gluten is responsible for the elasticity in dough or baked goods.(a binder) It is what I call the glue that binds everything together. For those of us who are true Celiac it is considered poison because it attacks the lining of the small intestines (causing inflammation in the lining) which prevents the vitamins and minerals from the food you eat from being absorbed into the body. Which in turn causes a number of problems. It is also a hereditary disease. A good magazine to get is "living Without" it has a lot of good articles about celiac as well as other allergies.
Hope this helps.
Wheat, Oats, Barley, Rye & Malt Are all Grains that are Gluten so the celiac must also watch out for these grains Not just flour.
Thank you for the info. It helps clear things up.
I like Mrs. Leeper's corn pasta. It has a lower glycemic index than wheat pasta. It tastes good too.
Thank you for this thread! My 11 mo. old needs to avoid gluten, rice, eggs, and dairy. It is challenging to introduce new foods! The good news is I just re-introduced soy to his diet with no problems! Ya! now he can have soy milk.
Any other great websites that you know of? I am particularly challenged in how to make him a birthday cake next month.
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Been keeping this tight-lipped for some time, but the cat's out of the bag.
ESS's VT2-525 Supercharger system is the latest kit released by ESS for the E85/6 Z4M platforms. With a 162whp and 80 ft-lb TQ gain after installation, this kit isn't for the faint of heart.
With our Z4M returning from ESS's facility just a couple of days ago, we quickly took a ride to Buttonwillow to put it to the test.
The ESS VT2-525 differs from it's VT1-445 predecessor with it's Air/Air intercooler system, keeping intake charge temperatures nice and cool. This is especially helpful for extended 20+ minute sessions. An upgraded Setrab oil cooler replaced the factory unit with heavy duty brackets to keep everything in place as if it were offered by factory.
BIG injectors are included, the fueling alone is rated up to 475whp. With a jump in boost from 5psi to 7psi, the S54 transforms into a beast after installation! Huge air/air intercooler fits cleanly behind the factory bumper cover - giving a tease of what's underneath the hood. Rotomolded intake tract rivals the factory pieces. Heavy duty hardware shows the kit is extremely well engineered. New billet crank and water pump pulleys are included.
Hardware is only half the battle, as tuning is equally important. The provided ESS tune is beyond amazing, pulling to redline without any hiccups or hesitation.
I haven't been this excited about a kit in a long time. We've simply fell in love with the Z4M all over again. For those with existing VT1-445 systems, the upgrade path will be a breeze.
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Biever, Brainerd take two
Casey Biever went 2-0 with two pins to lead the Brainerd Warriors to two Central Lakes Conference wins as they defeated the Willmar Cardinals 37-31 and the Fegus Falls Otters 40-28 during Thursday triangular at Brainerd High School.
"We had a good night and won both conference matches," said head coach Mike Boran. "We wrestled well."
Jeff Flickinger, Levi Rubin and Sam Adams also went 2-0 for the Warriors.
With the wins, Brainerd improves to 3-1 in the Central Lakes Conference and 5-3 overall.
Brainerd 37, Willmar 31
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195: Casey Biever (B) tech. fall over Shawn Johnson 1:38
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285: Cass Herzog (W) tech. fall over James Weiss :28
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A woman found dead in a swimming pool with a man had celebrated her 22nd birthday the previous day, an inquest heard today.
Komba Kpakiwa, 31, and Josephine Foday, 22, died at the weekend at Down Hall Country House Hotel in Hatfield Heath Essex.
Ms Foday died the day after her 22nd birthday.
An inquest into their deaths opened and adjourned today at Chelmsford Coroner's Court.
Witnesses had seen them alive 15 minutes before they died.
Mr Kpakiwa, from Erith, went to the pool after going out during the day.
He went to his room to get changed before going to the "pool area", when he was seen by another guest.
A witness found him 15 minutes later floating "face down in the pool".
Mr Kpakiwa was pulled out of the water and an ambulance was called but he could not be revived.
Miss Foday, from Greenwich, was also discovered in the same manner.
The coroner's officer, Mrs Frost, said in a statement: "Miss Foday was staying at the hotel for her birthday.
"On the 27 April 2013, Miss Foday had been shopping during the day and had returned to the hotel during the early evening, "She went to her room for a change of clothes and then went to the pool area.
"Miss Foday was witnessed by another hotel guest who was just leaving the pool.
"The witness returned approximately 15 minutes later where he found Miss Foday floating face down in the pool.
"Help was called and Miss Foday was pulled from the water.
"The ambulance arrived and after protocol was carried out Miss Foay was confirmed as deceased."
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Toddler Leash
See this kid?
He looks like he's just kicking it with his juice box. He's not. He's hydrating while planning his escape. In a blink of an eye, he's going to chuck that juice box and bob, weave and roll out of that room into a crowd of people or just straight into traffic. He might toss a glance behind him just to track what type of job he's done leaving you in the dust. Did I mention he'll laugh like a maniac while he's doing it?
He is a RUNNER. Or shall I say BOLTER. He's fast, he couldn't care less about stranger danger, or cars, and he definitely doesn't want you to find him.
In other words, I love him, but he's sort of a nightmare in a crowd.
To all the people who I've seen with a toddler leash or "harness" on their kid who I've possibly raised an eyebrow at, I apologize. He bolted so many times towards a parking lot at an outdoor birthday party the other day I was ready for a leash and a pole to hook it on.
I'm not talking about leashing him up in the backyard or letting my 4.5 year old walk him around the neighborhood, although I'm sure she would LOVE doing it. We're going to Disneyland, and I'm worried. One glance at a Mickey Mouse ice cream sandwich cart and he could be 30 people deep in the Matterhorn line. And he's not an only child. I don't want to accidentally lose one kid who's trying to keep up while chasing the one who's trying to get lost.
He's 35 pounds. He hates his stroller. He wants to walk by himself. He DEFINITELY hates holding hands. It's a safety issue.
I haven't ordered one yet. And I know I might get some stares. But I sort of feel like those stares are coming from people who have never experienced an impulsive and shockingly nimble toddler trying to break free in a crowd. You know when you open your wallet and see the empty slot where your credit card should be? That pit of your stomach feeling is about 8000 times worse if your child manages to break free in a crowd.
To leash or not to leash? Let's hear it.
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Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by GimmeTheBall!, Jan 16, 2013.
one championship would change alot of opinions...lebron
Eli is most likely getting in. The difference between Romo and Eli where stats are concerned is vast. Just don't see how you can keep a guy out who has an all-time top 5 passer rating if ends up with a championship too. IOW, stats alone don't mean a damn thing, but coupled with a SB they do. That's coming from someone who is not a huge fan of Romo's game.
Eli has alot better chance though, and would be considered even right now.
Romo probably wouldn't get in with one ring cause haters would say the one was a fluke or something. Romo has an uphill battle when it comes to public perception, and anything to do with the HOF or even ProBowl consideration is based on public perception.
Right now, the public doesn't even consider Romo a top 10 QB much less a HOFer.
Sorry, Romo has zero chance of getting into the hall. Fair or not, he is recognized as the biggest choker in modern American sports. Like people say, all his bad moments seem to come on national TV... On the biggest stages. I feel bad for Tony but there's nothing he can do to repair his image, that legacy was cemented in most people's eyes 3 weeks ago in DC.
Well I am a fan of Romo's game, but I just don't see him getting the votes unless the Superbowl win that he gets is considered to be cause he put us on his back.
If the win is cause he was the bus driver, then it is doubtful. You are talking perception here, and if he puts his team on his back then people will give him more props.
If he did, the HOF Bust would have him with a helmet on, looking downward, with slumped shoulders.
Unfortunately, I don't think time will tell who's right...
Unfortunately, I think this is true. While some of the blame is on Tony, I think the amount of negativity thrown his way is undeserved.
Right now the better question would be, Does he get into the Ring of Honor?
If by nothing, you mean SB Championships, then you are correct.
But then you'd be saying the same for Moon and Marino.
If Drew Pearson got in then Tony can get in.
Of course, Tony would get booed a lot at the ceremony.
No Way...can't really take the question seriously.
lol @ this question. "Come on Man"
Mens, if we all chanel our thoughts at Chuck to make him take the queston serious like maybe he will and maybe he will give us his opinon.
all together, send in your thought waves . . . . again . . . .repeat . . . .c'mon Chuck!
if he does it would be for something bizarre like for being one of the most maligned players ever in the NFL without ever having committed a crime or something like that
his numbers would be irrelevant
no use.
Chuck has his mind shut.
But, Chuck, think about all them high QB ratings Romo posted, huh? Think about all the Romo to Witten love passes.
Think about Witten to Dez, Dez crossing the goal line and then on the sidelines whipping his hat around like he was gonna hat whip someone he was so glad. . . .
He might not even be inducted into the Ring of Honor. His reputation nationally is tarnished right now for writers to vote for him without a ring.
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Cowboy fans don't even acknowledge that Romo is a good QB on a bad team, much less the rest of the league!
I would bet Romo could win 2 SB's and never get considered for the HOF.
in my opinion. I haven't crunched any numbers, just a gut feeling. For the record I am NOT a Romo basher. He could have a Lombardi trophy by now (2007) if we wouldn't have been badly outcoached that day and Crayton hangs onto the ball.


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Eugene F. Reha, 61, of Blairsville, passed away on Thursday, May 16, 2013, at Conemaugh Memorial Medical Center, Johnstown.
A private visitation and funeral service with the Rev. Ruth Moore officiating will be held at the Shoemaker Funeral Home Inc., 49 N. Walnut St., Blairsville.
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Thanks to the lovely people at the San Antonio Vacation Experience (SAVE) my family and I were planning to visit the beautiful city of San Antonio this weekend. It's a gorgeous city and is great for families! They offer a variety of family friendly attractions and activities. We're thrilled to have the opportunity to go down and enjoy some family time together on a weekend where we will also be remembering my younger sister whose birthday is June 7th.
I was thrilled when I found out that SeaWorld San Antonio would be holding their 2012 AdventureCon blogging conference. It's a conference with a more mellow vibe for bloggers and their whole families! I love the family friendly aspect! I was able to purchase tickets for myself and for my family that include park admission, food, and other perks! It will be W's first trip to SeaWorld and our first trip as a family!
I'm looking forward to meeting a few of my blogging friends in person and meeting some bloggers who are new to me as well! I cannot wait to meet some of my fellow Texas bloggers! I'm also thrilled to visit out Aquatica, SeaWorld's new water park that just opened last month! Plus I'm going to have the opportunity to learn ways to improve my photography and video skills which can only mean great things for Formula Mom! I'm definitely going to be making some great memories and learning a lot this weekend!
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Date of Stay: March, 2013
Very clean, great showers. Easy access. It is near to many attractions. Highway noise minimal considering it is near I-17. Staff very helpful and friendly.
Date of Stay: February, 2013
We found the park to be clean and as advertised. The fitness room is lacking. Bowflex ruined. No free weights. Highway noise to be expected due to location.


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Posted on Wednesday, March 12 @ 21:48:42 PST by Duke_FerrisIt happens every time you give a beloved Nintendo franchise anything lower than an A+, but at least it's not me this time. I'd like to point out that a B+ is a very respectable grade around here.
I might also mention that we have nothing against Nintendo. We're not haters. Chris Hudak was also the reviewer who gave Super Mario Galaxy an A.
While Melee was a clear upgrade on the original (raising the grade from a B to a B+), Brawl just didn't add enough new stuff to the game to warrant another bump from a B+ to an A-. The core mechanics remain the same, the online play is gimped by Nintendo's friend codes, and while there is more, it is simply more of something we already had.
The Wii can still play the Gamecube's Melee, and frankly it's just as much fun.
Still bug testing the new servers, fingers crossed we can switch over tomorrow. Oh, and they announced Bioshock 2, so that's cool (if predictable).
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There are 12 boys and 16 girls in a class. What is the ratio of boys to girls? Write as a fraction in simplest form.
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TThe ratio of boys to girls is 12 to 16, 12:16 or 12/16 (all different ways this can be written). The fraction form 12/16 can be reduced by dividing by the greatest common factor. Both 12 and 16 are divisible by 4, so the reduced fraction is 12/4 over 16/4 = 3/4. In other words, there are 3 boys for every 4 girls in the class.
the ratio is 12:16 and u just divide both the numerator & denominator 'till u can't divide them equally anymore to get the simplest form.
Hope that helps!
So there are three ways that you can write a ration : you can write it like x : y ; x to y ; x / y
So the question is that there are 12 boys and 16 girls in the classroom , and that you should write a ratio to compare the amount of boys to the amount of girls . To do this , you would have to put the amount of boys in the numerator and the amount of girls in the denominator . By doing that it should look like ,
12 / 16 ; 12 to 16 ; 12 : 16 of course both this ratio can be simplify because both 12 and 16 are able to be divided by 4
By dividing by 4 , you should get
3 / 4 ; 3 to 4 ; 3 : 4 which is your answer
12/16 so to simplify divide both sides by 4
the simplified ratio is 3/4
There are 12 boys and 16 girls in a class. What is the ratio of boys to girls? Write as a fraction in simplest form.
We have :
12 boys
16 girls
We can simplify this fraction by dividing out the common factor 4 :
3 boys
4 girls
or simply : 3/4
divide both numbers by 4
3 : 4
*sorry I make a mistake 12/16 should be divided by 4 not 8. my apologies*
The ratio would be 12:16. But its asking us to write it as a fraction so 12/16. It also asks us to simplify so if we take away 8 from both top and bottom via division we get 3/4.
12 boys and 16
both of these number have a common factor of 4 so just divide both numbers by 4 to get the smallest number:
3 : 4
There are 12 boys to 16 girls which means the ration would be 12:16. Since A common factor that is evident in both is 4, you can further simply that answer into a smaller number. Therefore it would be simplified to 3:4 so there are 3 boys to 4 girls in a class with the ration 3:4
There are 12 boys and girls. The ration form is 12:16 which can be further simplified into 3:4 just by dividing 4 to each of the number. The fractional form is 3/4. to its simplest form.
The ratio is written as 12/16. To put in simplest form you must determine what number can be evenly divided into both the top number 12 (numerator) and the bottom number 16 (denominator). That would be 4
12 / 4 = 3
16 / 4 = 4
So the ratio in simplest form would be 3/4
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When Simon met us at the bus the first day, he had been hiding behind a post checking us for nazi regalia before he came out to greet us and have a beer on the park lawn to get to know each other. To try to sum up Simon, he is a positive guy, noted by his favorite phrase to say throughout the day, "happy days", and he is very interested in permaculture. Part of why we chose Simon was to learn more about permaculture and how it is practiced in different places
However, we are coming to Simon, as it turns out, right between the planning and executing stages for his land. In the year he has been on his new plot of land he has cleared a bit of the dead trees, utilized a small greenhouse, bought a few chickens (which have since been eaten by neighboring dogs), and a pig. The pig is his plow and works everyday just tearing up the land and turning it over so it is ready for seeding. It is also the garbage disposal. While we are here Simon will be cutting down some more bamboo to reinforce the pig pen, planting a handful of potatoes, and cutting moscetto. Moscetto is a thorny vine (like the stuff in the Lion King that the hyenas get stuck in or the stuff that surrounds the castle where Sleeping Beauty rests waiting for Prince Charming to save her) that grows everywhere. It is invasive and each plant travels out across the land by sprouting up a new branch every few inches and then growing up and tangling itself in the tops of the trees. Our job is to cut this stuff down, untangle it a bit, cut it to size, and weave it through the fencing to keep out the dogs and hare. Once this is done Simon will be able to plant more and keep his chickens alive. But this is slow going. We each have a machete, a pair of ripped up gloves, and a fence line that surrounds I think six hectares of land
But Simon didn't push us too hard. In keeping with the "do less" theme, he would take regular breaks to smoke weed, and would come find us as well to have us break for siesta (12-4) or just stop completely by mid afternoon even though we didn't start until 11. Happy days. Hard work, but plenty of time to relax, read, and talk more about permaculture and his plans. And he does have big plans... He is sort of modeling from an Austrian guy named Sepp Holzer who has an amazingly productive 45 hectare permaculture mountaintop complete with raise beds, thousands of fruit trees, and ponds that help to irrigate and raise trout and other fish (all self sustaining). Simon also hopes to have fish, a sauna, a pool, lots of veggies, fruit, and he is rebuilding the house to have straw bale walls instead of wood. Even though it's permaculture / self sustaining, building it is going to be a lot of work (and probably a lot more volunteers), but when it's done... Happy days.


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You know...that old me...with all the shackles and chains on her life.
You know... that old me...who wants to rant and rave and have fits and pity-parties, so she can have her own way.
You know...that old me...who is proud, and conceited, who has exalted herself above the knowledge of God.
You know...that old me...who is jealous, and full of strife and unforgiveness.
You know...that old me...who is self-centered, self-endulgent and fearful.
You know...that old me...who is insane...Doing the same things over and over again expecting a different result.
Oh!...thank you Jesus... you're showing me little glimpses of the promised land.
So, help me, Lord Jesus...Please...keep killing that old me.
Because I know...those shackles on her feet...keep me from going where you want me to go.
Because I know...those chains on her wrists...keep me from doing what you want me to do.
Help me, Lord Jesus...Please...keep killing that old me.
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Donna, thank you so much for telling me about this. It is amazing and I agree with all those who have commented already on your excellent portraying of truth, and our constant battle with 'self'. Love the title too. A really really excellent poem. Thank you too for your kind comments on my 'Armour' poem - yes, it was in the 'Weeks' challenge some months ago. Keep writing - all for His Glory, Margaret
Hi, my name is Elgin I'm "Subwaysurfer" read your poem, and loved it. I don't know why you've received no replies on it yet. For one, the title and opening grabs you right away. "Jesus is killing me" is definitely a statement normally not associated with Christ! It expresses a spiritual truth we all need today attention to about te old man, whom the scriptures emphatically tells us to put to death. You said you're putting your toe in the water, I suggest you put both feet in, and once you get used to the temperature, put your whole body in! Be encouraged. Elgin
Poetry, like the ability to grow healthy roses, seems to require a special touch. I generally end up murdering both. You, on the other hand, have definitely got 'it!' A very, very good poem!
This is so well written. I want to print it and hang it in my prayer closet to remind me. Is that OK with you?
This was powerful. The title drew me in immediately. (I wrote an article onse- Did Jesus just insult me? that had that similar What? appeal) I think you did a wonderful job of connecting with your reader. My biggest comment would be I found the ellipses a tad distracting. Your words were so powerful that the... drew me away for a split second. I appreciate it as a literary tool but think using strong words that summon emotion in the reader is far more effective than using punctuation -- especially the exclamation point --which I know you didn't use but often people do, or all caps. I also stumbled a bit when you switched from first person to third. I do understand the reason behind (actually I did that too in my aforementioned story when I referred to myself as a little girl lost personality, I did call that part of my personality her) So I get it but it still made me stop and reread to see if I missed another person. The words are so lovely and I could really relate to them. It is a beautiful piece and I'd love to read more of your work.
Great article! I love the dying to self message. I can't help but think this would be an awesome song. Can't wait to read more.
wow that is so good and so true the title grabbed my attention rather brilliant writing need to do more
A simple message with deep reflection. I enjoyed that. Looking forward to more from you. And thanks for the critique you did for me.
that was really good. if that is your first keep them coming. you can go a long way thank you for spending time to read my works. Blessings of Light. advisor4
Donna, Thank you for sharing your heart ... what a beautiful piece of writing. Thank God that Jesus is killing each and every one of us ... the old us that is! Love how you build tempo, rhythm and suspense. I'll be looking for more from you ... welcome to Faithwriters!
Very thought provoking title -- unique approach -- love it! Looks like its your first article on Faithwriters. If this is a glimpse of things to come -- you're on fire! Very inspiring, keep up the good work and before you know it you'll have written hundred of articles. So happy you enjoyed As It Is In Heaven. I just revised it -- only one new paragraph towards the end. You might also enjoy my poem Randsomed By the Blood. May the Lord continue to bless you in your gifts Donna.
Donna, the title alone is excellent on this. It immediately catches the reader's attention with a "Huh?" moment that draws them on to read. Then your actual article was very good. I found myself echoing your words. Only very quick critique would be to say I'd change this part from itself to herself: "who has exalted itself above the knowledge of God." That made me stumble a little. Other than that, I like the angle you came from for this. It shows a mind that can think outside the box, and that's essential for creative writers. Keep writing (and yes, do jump into the Challenge). Deb
Donna, What a wonderful title followed by a wonderful piece of work. I thank you on your comments on one of my pieces. I prayerful and hopes that the fawls in my spelling and grammer is corrected. So, that I can have wonderful work. Felisa
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Curt Schilling Announces He Has Cancer
Former Red Sox pitcher Curt Shilling has announced he has cancer, according to ESPN.
According to ESPN, Schilling said "I've always believed life is about embracing the gifts and rising up to meet the challenges," Schilling said in a statement released by ESPN. "We've been presented with another challenge, as I've recently been diagnosed with cancer."
"Our thoughts are with Curt and his family during this challenging time," the network said in a statement. "His ESPN teammates wish him continued strength in his cancer fight and we look forward to welcoming him back to our baseball coverage whenever he's ready."
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We had little hastle in getting here, bus 5 hours instead of 4 and then hopped onto a 4x4 thingy to take us to the beach village.
Cabo Polonio has no roads, no cars, no electric, no building equipment is allowed in - it is seriously small and SERIOUSLY COOL!
We tried to camp but the weather is unbelievably hot! There are sand dunes which meat the sea and we trecked off into them in search ofsome shade which we could see some trees way infront of us. We walked, and walked and walked and never got close so we walked and walked and walked back to the village
on our way back we tried the door of this little cool looking place (check out the pics) with a Uruaguayan flag and a Canadian one. The owner let us stay for $10 each - it was a kind of tiny annex on the side of his house with 2 camp beds, a gas hob for cooking, plenty of pots and pans and even a little tiny bathroom. To flush the toilet you gather water from the well and to wash you use rain water from the roof.
He was a nice guy who came from Montevideo originally but had lived in Canada most his life, he showed us around the place - not that there is much to it and we spent the 2 days here sun bathing in the most amazing weather and loving this most amazing beach. There was a shop which wasnt too overpriced so we ate well and on the 1st night we had one of the most amazing nights of our travels - we went night fishing!!!
Well, we went out with a head tourch each, a big net and a bucket and caught at least 100 little fish, about 10 good sized ones and I caught one that wouldnt even fit in the net which resembled a sword fish rather than a standard one - the pics are cool of this one :-)
It was so easy to catch the little ones - you go after the bigger ones and even if you miss you come out with about 10 little buggers
We then ripped their heads off and their guts out, descalled the bigger ones (I let the really big one go as there was little meat on him)and then we kept them in the Canadian guys big propane run fridge overnight.
Day 2
We got some oil, flour and cooked the fish - they were really good with a beer on the beach in the scorching tempreatures, we ate so much we felt ill and them spent the rest of the day sunning ourselves - thats all today - not a bad day!
The day we leave :-( We got up early to get the 44 which apparently only comes when thebus does, we waited and waited and it showed up 10 mins before our bus was due to come (the journey is at least 20 mins) - we had been waiting for 2 hours
We waited on the sied of the road and got a lift in a small van for free to the next town. We met an American guy who gave us some books to read - nice guy called Coby and then we got on the bus which would take us close to Punta Del Diablo - only 5km away - this is all a lot of hastle but we want to get there today and we dont want to wait till 8pm - the next bus!


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When a crisis like the phone hacking scandal in the United Kingdom happens, the business concerned understandably wants to mitigate the damage by quickly identifying and purging the wrongdoers, making apologies, providing restitution and moving on.
What they often fail to appreciate is that governments will not generally be satisfied until the public believes it has seen proper accountability and transparency, and the Government has a lot of tools to exact that accountability.
This is all additional to the arrests which the police have made for breaches of the law and alleged corruption.
The public expects the Government to act when serious problems arise in an industry or profession, and it often does so through a government inquiry or/and policy and law reform.
Thus, there will not only be serious reputational damage to the brand and business of the organisation, but once the public and Government scrutiny goes on, there are likely to be multiple inquiries, with the possibility that laws and policies will be changed for the whole industry and not just the offending player in the market.
The News of the World scandal has also seen Parliament exacting accountability and transparency through summoning Rupert Murdoch and his son to give evidence, and parliamentary questions to the Prime Minister and his addresses to the House.
Parliamentary privilege means that nothing said by MPs is defamatory and witnesses summoned must give all information requested.
The scandal has crossed borders too, with requests from American politicians that the US Department of Justice investigate News International for potential breaches of the US Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.
As we enter the second week of hearings by the royal commission into the Pike River disaster, the same demand for accountability and transparency must be met in New Zealand. The focus has been on concerns about mine safety.
The commission's terms of reference include making recommendations on changes to relevant laws and practices, and there will almost certainly be changes to the legislation and practices governing New Zealand's mining industry.
Pike River is also subject to a coronial inquest, a police investigation, and an inquiry under the Health and Safety in Employment Act 1992.
Unsurprisingly, Pike River went into receivership long before any of these inquiries will be completed.
There are many other examples of crises throughout New Zealand's recent history where government intervened to ensure proper accountability and transparency, whether that be Cave Creek, or the lights out ministerial inquiry in the Auckland CBD.
Business should never give government a reason to start investigating an industry, given the tools at its disposal to get accountability and transparency.
Usually that can be achieved simply by carrying out your business lawfully and ethically, but if your competitors are not doing the same, then you need to be careful - their bad behaviour could become your problem.
Industry needs to be responsive to public concerns, and if scandal hits, understand that the best course of action is to assist the Government to get clarity on what happened and to ensure there is accountability, not only for individual mistakes, but also for restoring public confidence to the sector as a whole.
* Mai Chen is a partner in Chen Palmer public and employment law specialists, a University of Auckland Business School adjunct professor and author of Public Law Toolbox (forthcoming).


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Bang Tango
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|Bang Tango
|Background information
|Los Angeles, California, United States
|Hard rock,[1] glam metal[2]
|Years active
|1987–1995, 1996-1998, 1999, 2002-present
|World of Hurt (1989)
Music for Nations (1993–1995)
Shrapnel (2003–2005)
Perris (2005–present)
|Joe Lesté
Rowan Robertson
Lance Eric
Timmy Russell
Drew Fortier
|Past members
|Former members
Bang Tango is an American hard rock band. The band was formed in 1987 in Los Angeles, California and was signed to MCA Records the same year.
Bang Tango's classic original line up consisted of Joe Lesté (Vocals), Mark Knight (Guitar), Kyle Stevens (Guitar), Kyle Kyle (Bass) and Tigg Ketler (Drums).
Minor success was had with their MTV hit "Someone Like You" from their debut album Psycho Café. Due to poor label decisions and mismanagement, the band's potential was never fully realized. Their sophomore effort Dancin' On Coals was critically acclaimed yet failed to appeal to the masses, therefore not achieving wide success. They then decided to focus on making videos with sick puppets.
Their final album, and finest work as the original line up Love After Death never got to see a U.S. release due to their label feeling they put too much into the band already.
Nevertheless, the group worked on until 1995 when they split up.
The band reformed in 1996 and lasted until 1999 with the line up of Joe Lesté, Kyle Kyle, Mark Tremalgia, and Danny Aon (until 1998), along with a revolving door of drummers including Ray Luzier, Michael Licata, Walter Earle, Danny Parker, and Rob Jones.
Also in 1996, Joe Lesté, Kyle Kyle and Danny Aon put together a side band called Eating Crow, whose song "So Abused" was featured in the film Wishmaster.
Joe Lesté saw minor success once again in 2001 with Beautiful Creatures, which only lasted for two albums.
Joe Lesté put Bang Tango back together in 2003, which to this day has a revolving door of musicians. Except for bass player Lance Eric, who has been in the band since 2005.
As of July 17, 2014, former Dio guitarist Rowan Robertson joined Bang Tango as they planned to tour for the band's 25th anniversary.[3]
Bang Tango was the subject of the documentary Attack of Life: The Bang Tango Movie, which was released in 2015.
As of May 2015, Attack of Life: The Bang Tango Movie filmmaker Drew Fortier joined Bang Tango as their rhythm guitarist.
According to interviews with the band members, Bang Tango has been working on a new album, which will be the follow-up to 2011's Pistol Whipped in the Bible Belt.[4][5][6] The album will include a song written by Johnny Blade and previously recorded by Player/Kommander, titled "When Will I Get Paid".[7]
Current members[edit]
- Joe Lesté – vocals (1987-1995; 1996-1998 1999;2002-present)
- Rowan Robertson – guitar (2014-present)
- Drew Fortier – guitar (2015-present)
- Lance Eric – bass guitar (2005-present)
- Timmy Russell – drums (2004-2009; 2013-present)
Former members[edit]
(This is a partial list. It does not include all of the members who have toured with the band.)
- Tigg Ketler (born Robert Ketler) (1987-1995; 2006 one gig only; 2010-present as Bang Tango Redux)
- Rob Jones (1996-1997)
- Ray Luzier (1997)
- Michael Licata (1997-1998)
- Michael Hunt aka. Mike Hunt (2006)
- Danny Parker (1998)
- Walter Earl (1999)
- Bobby "Tango" Gibb (2002-2003)
- Glen Sobel (2003)
- Matt Starr (born Matt Franklin) (2003-2005)
- Jason Hugie (2005)
- Troy Patrick Farrell (2009)
- Trent Anderson (2009-2013)
- Kyle Stevens (1987-1993; 2006 one gig only; 2010-present as Bang Tango Redux)
- Mark Knight (1987-1995; 2006 one gig only; 2010-present as Bang Tango Redux)
- Mark Tremalgia (1993-1999)
- Dan Aon (1996-1998)
- Anthony Focx (2002-2004; 2008-2009; 2009-2010)
- Michael Thomas (2002-2003; 2005; 2007-2008)
- Ryan Seelbach (2007-2008)
- Dave Henzerling (2008)
- Mark Simpson (2005-2007)
- Alex Grossi (2003-2005; 2008-2010)
- Scott LaFlamme (2010-2014)
Bass guitar[edit]
- Kyle Kyle (born Kyle Keiderling) (1987-1995; 1996-1998 1999; 2006 one gig only; 2010-present as Bang Tango Redux)
- Brian Saunders (2002-2003)
- Ry Ry aka. Coogie Houser (2006)
- Curtis Roach (born Chris Roach) (2003-2005)
- Mike Howells (2005)
- Jamie Zimlin (2005)
Vocals(Bang Tango Redux)[edit]
- Michael Demay (2010-present as Bang Tango Redux)
- Felicity Pringle (2004 - 2008 ) back up vocals
Studio albums[edit]
|US Billboard Peak
|Psycho Café
|Dancin' on Coals
|Love After Death
|Music for Nations
|September 14, 2004
|Ready to Go
|May 9, 2006
|From the Hip
|September 27, 2011
|Pistol Whipped In The Bible Belt [8]
|78 Productions
Live and compilation albums[edit]
|US Billboard Peak
|Live Injection (live)
|World of Hurt
|Ain't No Jive...Live! (live)
|November 10, 1998
|Live (live)
|May 25, 1999
|Untied & Live (live)
|November 23, 1999
|Greatest Tricks (compilation)
|August 24, 2004
|The Ultimate Bang Tango: Rockers and Thieves (compilation)
See also[edit]
- ^ Rockpit, Mark (March–April 2015). ""ATTACK OF LIFE: THE BANG TANGO MOVIE" Review and Interview with film-maker Drew Fortier". The Rockpit. Retrieved October 9, 2016.
- ^ McPadden, Mike (September 24, 2015). "The Hair Metal 100: Ranking the '80s Greatest Glam Bands, Part 4". VH1. Viacom. Retrieved October 9, 2016.
- ^ "Former Dio Guitarist Rowan Robertson Joins Bang Tango". Blabbermouth.net. 2014-07-17. Retrieved 2016-05-26.
- ^ "Bang Tango Working On New Material". Blabbermouth.net. 2012-11-10. Retrieved 2016-05-26.
- ^ "Rowan Robertson of Bang Tango / DC4 Interview – Sleaze Roxx". Sleazeroxx.com. 2015-10-13. Retrieved 2016-05-26.
- ^ "Joe Lesté of Bang Tango Interview – Sleaze Roxx". Sleazeroxx.com. 2015-10-27. Retrieved 2016-05-26.
- ^ "Bang Tango: 'Suck It Up' Video Released". Blabbermouth.net. 2012-11-26. Retrieved 2016-05-26.
- ^ "Bang Tango Lyrics". Bang Tango Lyrics. eLyrics.net. Retrieved 4 June 2012.