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What are the questions that keep you up at night? What do you wish more people were taking an interest in and talking about? Participate in the University of Washington Honors Program's pilot "Dialogue Across the Disciplines". Be part of the dialogue by asking the questions and generating conversations that span disciplines and ideologies.
The project has three key objectives: 1) gather significant questions from students, faculty, staff, and the larger community. Questions addressing social and economic realities of our current time are encouraged; 2) facilitate interdisciplinary inquiry that engages diverse perspectives; and 3) create dialogue around the questions and the proposed solutions.
The intended outcome of the project lies not in a formal presentation of the questions and their solutions, though this will happen, but rather aims to create opportunities for dialogue on critical topics of interest. Discussion forums will also facilitate networking and community building among students, alums, and the UW and local communities.
We welcome dialogue across the disciplines that serves the interests and needs of the university, local industry, non-profits, arts, and health care.
AWARD: $500 (one award given out per quarter to a student or group who submits/presents a proposal)
How to Get Involved
The Questions:
We invite students, staff, faculty, alumni, and community partners to submit questions in the form of abstracts. Accepted questions (no more than 250 words) will be posted for students to review and present proposals. Questions will be reviewed and posted on a weekly basis, systematically populating the list of questions for students to review. Students will propose a solution to a question through an online Catalyst survey.
Current students are encouraged to submit questions related to a research project, service engagement, leadership position, or international experience in which they are currently involved. Questions emerging from a course are also welcome. Submissions relevant to internship experiences with local nonprofits and for-profit businesses are also encouraged.
All questions will be anonymous. However, the student (or group) will have the opportunity to meet the person who developed the question if their proposal, i.e Catalyst application, is accepted (assuming students did not submit a proposal for their own questions!).
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Students will submit a proposal in response to a question and, as part of the proposal, will suggest a timeframe for the investigative process as well as a proposed structure for engagement in solutions to the question. To explore the current opportunities, check out our Current Questions page.
Through the Catalyst form, students must write up an proposal and create a plan for presenting a solution to the question. Students are encouraged to work in teams of 2-3, but individual propasals will be accepted. Students will be expected to add focus and direction to the question and present a clearly laid out plan for presenting a possible solution for discussion. Students are not required to solve the problem, but rather prepare for a lively discussion on the topic.
The expectations are that the individual student, or student group, selected present their investigations, outcomes, and conclusions to the Honors community and lead a discussion forum related to the question and the process of investigation. Invitees will include the UW community as well as Honors alumni, business and community leaders with interest in the question. The discussion forums will be supported by the Honors Program and showcased on the Honors website. Forum structure will be seminar style and take place on a quarterly basis.
Proposal Parameters:
- Must provide a reasonable timeline for completion (one to two quarters on average)
- If a group proposal, students must demonstrate how they will work collaboratively with their partners: student peers, community/business members, university faculty, etc.
- Students must present a feasible plan of action for the investigative process of the question
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The deadline for question submissions is rolling. The Honors Program will vet questions each week and will routinely update the list of questions. To submit a question, please complete the question submission survey.
Deadline for presenting a proposal to work on a solution is the first Friday of the first week of each quarter (including summer A and B terms). Proposals will be reviewed and selected no later than the end of the third week of the quarter. To submit a proposal for a current question, please complete the proposal survey.
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I am not in the Honors Program, am I eligible to submit a question and also submit a proposal for a question?
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Do I need to enact my proposal or is the detailed plan for addressing the question the final requirement?
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How much is the award if your proposal is selected and how will the award be distributed?
The award money is $500 total. If you are part of a group proposal, the $500 will be equally divided among the group. If selected, you will be contacted by the Honors Program directly to discuss distribution of the award.
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CNN: Hey, won't Palin be neglecting her Down's syndrome baby?
posted at 4:21 pm on August 29, 2008 by Allahpundit
This is phase one. Phase two will be, "Wouldn't a strong, responsible, authentic feminist woman have aborted it?" Man, I'm downright giddy at the thought of where the next eight weeks are going to take us.
Ace helpfully offers the left a new campaign slogan. Exit question: Sure, Palin's running for VP while raising a family of five that includes a special needs baby, but has she "walked through fire" the way Hillary Clinton has? Click the image to watch.
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Many people who have lived in the Graduate Hospital for awhile have probably walked by this building and wondered, "what's up with this place?" This building is notable because of its enormous size, its unexpectedly poor condition given its location, and the word "Weaver" carved in the moulding above the front door. From what we understand, the building was once a funeral home, but hasn't been used for that purpose for many years. Currently, we hear it's used mostly for storage.
This building has been owned by Harold Beale since 1976. Mr. Beale lives next door, in a building he has owned since 1970. According to public record, he hasn't paid his property taxes on 740 S. 18th St. since 2000, and currently owes the city over $29K, including interest and penalties. For his residence, the delinquency stretches back to 1999 with a current tax balance of nearly $26K.


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Not Bad for a Couple of Old Farts
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The park is truly outstanding and (relative to US parks) pretty uncrowded. If you have any interest in spectacular outdoor experiences, this should be on your list. The infrastructure is such that one can get to most of the important sites with day hikes while staying at lodges. On the other hand, the backcountry experience still seems removed from hordes of chubby tourists with large cameras. (Unfortunately, the guidebooks available in the states are pretty poor
The highlight of the park is the Torres (towers) del Paine, which can be reached via a dayhike. In the photos, we are standing at a lake at the base of the towers. The top of the tower is 4500 feet above the lake. (For comparison, the Empire State Building is 1250 feet tall.)
The sharp peaks create a massive rainshadow and the climate changes dramatically as one circles the park. One begins in dry scrubland and eventually enters dense woods. Another highlight is Glacier Grey, which stretches for 30 km before it reaches the edge of our map. We hiked beside it for about 10km before it ended in a lake.
Our photos don't do justice to the scenery. Unfortunately, glacier formation tends to be highly correlated with limited sunshine and lots of precipitation. The light was usually pretty flat. I guess you'll just have to go there yourself.
Backpacking is a little different in Chile. One is expected to stay at group campsites that are spaced about a day's hike apart. This tends to distract from the feeling of solitude that I look for while backpacking. One group of 19-year old Chilean students brought a small portable stereo with them and enough batteries to listen to their tunes 24x7. (There may have been a time when I had an equal commitment to rock and roll. Sadly, that time has likely passed. Interestingly, the Chileans students' musical taste closely matched my preference for classic US/British rock. What does that say about the recycling of culture?) The upside is that these campsites were stocked with some provisions and, occasionally, a hot shower. They were large enough that, after the first night, we were able to set up our tent at a comfortable distance from the crowds.
We are sad to be leaving Chile. It is a varied, beautiful country with warm people. On to Argentina.
Before we entered the park, I had a somewhat troubling exchange with a young woman recently graduated from UC Berkeley
Pinochet's punishment, however, is a very complex issue. When he committed to peacefully give up power, it was agreed that he (and his cronies) would not face future prosecution. Peaceful regime change is very difficult. While I am somewhat fuzzy on the facts, my understanding is that Mandela largely forgave the Afrikaaners for their actions in South Africa. I believe, that that decision has led to a relatively peaceful coexistence.
Chile clearly has a fully functioning democracy at this point. The opposition party to Pinochet has been in power for 16 years and, Bachelet, the current president is one of Pinochet's victims. (She was tortured and her father was murdered.) Pinochet is 90 years old and in frail health. The best result would likely be for him to die from natural causes. If this government is not interested in aggressively pursuing Pinochet, why does the young woman from Cal think she knows better? I also suspect that her actions will likely be counterproductive to her cause
Additionally, it seems critical to me that the world keeps its deals with deposed despots. Almost all brutal dictators will do anything to hold onto power because they expect the world will turn on them as soon as they lay down their arms. If we can offer a tottering dictator $10mm and a retirement villa, it may be a win-win incentive for a peaceful transition. this is certainly not 'fair', but a lot better than the alternative. I believe this type of deal was offered to Saddam Hussein in early 2003 but he declined. Was he concerned that we would not keep our word?
I differentiate between Pinochet�s prosecution and that of the ex-nazis. Pinochet�s crimes were almost entirely in Chile. If the democratically elected opposition government does not choose to aggressively prosecute, then I think we should accept that decision. The nazis�crimes, however, were international and I think that are a lot of countries that might claim jurisdiction.
Why Pinochet? I recently finished a biography of Stalin and just started the new book on Mao
I would welcome thoughts from any of you on this topic.
Logistics for Torres del Paine
Advance reservations in Chile are very painful to make. They have websites but don't respond to email. Many don't have phones. The good news is that Chile seems to have overcapacity in hotels. We have usually been just showing up and asking if a room is available. We have a tent and a car so we have flexibility. If you fly/drive through Punta Arenas, most of the hotels have offices there and you can arrange while you are on the ground. You will be in a better negotiating position that way and may be able to avoid the dreaded gringo tax. Always ask for a discount.
Drop me an email if you would like more details.


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Citations with the tag: INTRAVENOUS therapy -- Safety measures
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- Risk of giving intravenous aminophylline to acutely ill patients receiving maintenance treatment with theophylline.
Stewart, M. Felicity; Barclay, Joyce; Warburton, Ray // British Medical Journal (Clinical Research Edition); 2/11/1984, Vol. 288 Issue 6415, p450
Focuses on the risk of giving intravenous aminophylline to acutely ill patients receiving maintenance treatment of theophylline in Great Britain. Conditions for the efficacy of theophylline; Toxicity of the drug during acute illnesses; Significance of theophylline concentration maintenance for...
- Have a 'don't-interrupt' policy when giving IV.
Stewart, M. Felicity; Barclay, Joyce; Warburton, Ray // ED Nursing; May2009, Vol. 12 Issue 7, p79
The article presents a recommendation from the American Society of Health-Systems Pharmacists that emergency nurses should not be interrupted or disturbed during intravenous drug administration.
- False hyperglycemia from IV dextrose.
R.M.D. // Cortlandt Forum; 3/25/96, Vol. 9 Issue 3, p138
Recommends preventive measures in caring for a hospitalized patient with high blood glucose. Use of finger-stick glucose monitor to check the blood glucose before administering intravenous dextrose; Insulin administration.
- Put a stop to IV med errors with 4 practices.
R.M.D. // ED Nursing; May2009, Vol. 12 Issue 7, p78
The article presents recommendations for preventing intravenous (IV) medication administration errors by Bona E. Benjamin, director of medication-use quality improvement at the American Society of Health-System Pharmacists (ASHP). An ASHP study found that IV drug errors were more likely to cause...
- Safety and Efficacy of Intravenous Iron Therapy in Postnatal Patients with Iron Deficiency Anemia.
Kouser, Shaheen; Kouser, Shahnaz; Malik, Mariam; Malik, Ahmad // Journal of South Asian Federation of Obstetrics & Gynecology; Jan-Apr2011, Vol. 3 Issue 1, p25
Objective: This prospective study was conducted to establish safety and efficacy of intravenous iron therapy in postnatal anemic patients. Results: Around 217 anemic women were included in the study. Most of these patients (82.2%) were of 21 to 30 years of age having parity of 2 to 4 (53.9%)....
- Call for all staff administering drugs to undergo a maths test.
Kouser, Shaheen; Kouser, Shahnaz; Malik, Mariam; Malik, Ahmad // Nursing Standard; 11/26/2008, Vol. 23 Issue 12, p7
The article reports that nurses could be required to achieve a perfect score on a maths examination before being allowed to administer drugs intravenously. The introduction of the maths requirement by Margaret Connolly, lead nurse for specialist and advanced practice at NHS (National Health...
- Do Your CATS PRRR?: A Mnemonic Device to Teach Safety Checks for Administering Intravenous Medications.
Billings, Diane; Kowalski, Karren; Schumacher, Donna Lucas // Journal of Continuing Education in Nursing; May/Jun2005, Vol. 36 Issue 3, p104
Describes a mnemonic device that can be used as a safety strategy to help nurses avoid IV medication errors that could result in harm or death to the patient. Medication errors; Development of the mnemonic device; Description of the mnemonic device.
- A Virtual Clean Room to Teach USP 797 Regulations for Intravenous Medications.
Patel, Sheetal; Vincent, Ashley H.; Abel, Steven R.; Jacobs, Carolyn M.; Dunlop, Steven R.; Seibert, Megan // American Journal of Pharmaceutical Education; Jan2011, Vol. 75 Issue 1, p1
Objective. To provide a virtual environment for pharmacy students to learn United States Pharmacopeia Chapter 797 (USP 797) requirements, while recognizing the role of pharmacists in the safe use of intravenous (IV) medications. Design. A virtual laboratory was created that included stations for...
- Efficacy and safety of intravenous voriconazole and intravenous itraconazole for antifungal prophylaxis in patients with acute myelogenous leukemia or high-risk myelodysplastic syndrome.
Mattiuzzi, Gloria N.; Cortes, Jorge; Alvarado, Gladys; Verstovsek, Srdan; Koller, Charles; Pierce, Sherry; Blamble, Deborah; Faderl, Stefan; Lianchun Xiao; Hernandez, Mike; Kantarjian, Hagop // Supportive Care in Cancer; Jan2011, Vol. 19 Issue 1, p19
Purpose: To compare the efficacy and safety of voriconazole with itraconazole as prophylaxis in leukemia patients. Methods: Open-label, randomized study. Patients with acute myelogenous leukemia or high-risk myelodysplastic syndrome undergoing induction chemotherapy or first salvage were...
- Safety Profile of Biological Intravenous Therapy in a Rheumatoid Arthritis Patients Cohort. Clinical Nursing Monitoring (Sebiol Study).
Corominas, Hèctor; Sánchez-Eslava, Lucinda; García, Guadalupe; Padró, Isabel; Aimarich, Cristina; Gonzàlez, Joana; Franco, Maria; Mur, Emilia; Sanchez, Silvia; Roldán, Glòria; Iniesta, Silvia; Sesma, Montse; Martín, Josefina; Rodriguez, Mari Carmen; Capellan, Maria Rosa; Gosálvez, Coral; Garcia-Diaz, Silvia; Sáez, Encarnación; Luna, Yolanda; Plana, Pilar // Reumatologia Clinica; mar/abr2013, Vol. 9 Issue 2, p80
Introduction: The biologics used in the management of rheumatoid arthritis (RA) in recent years have comprehensively permitted to understand their security, as shown in registries such as BIOBADASER. The present manuscript represents an observational cohort study to describe the safety...
- Needle-Free diluent technology.
Sanfilippo, Christophe // Pharmaceutical Technology Europe; Jan2010, Vol. 22 Issue 1, p28
The article reports on the concept of Needle-Free kit created by Bioluz and Technoflex Inc. It states that the concept is in response to the Food & Drug Administration (FDA) and the National Health Service (NHS)'s recommendations in preventing healthcare staff from needle-stick injuries in the...
- Pricking of IV infusion bottle is a chronic habit which will take time to change - Dr. Naveed Ali.
Sanfilippo, Christophe // Pulse International; 10/15/2015, Vol. 16 Issue 19, p9
The article discusses the pricking of Intravenous infusion (IV) bottle habit which is noted to be a common practice in healthcare facilities of Pakistan according to Dr. Naveed Ali Khan, Assistant Professor of Surgery Dow University of Health Sciences. Dr. Naveed argues that healthcare...
- Safety of topotecan monotherapy for relapsed small cell lung cancer patients with pre-existing interstitial lung disease.
Enomoto, Yasunori; Inui, Naoki; Imokawa, Shiro; Karayama, Masato; Hasegawa, Hirotsugu; Ozawa, Yuichi; Matsui, Takashi; Yokomura, Koshi; Suda, Takafumi // Cancer Chemotherapy & Pharmacology; Sep2015, Vol. 76 Issue 3, p499
Purpose: To investigate the safety of intravenous topotecan monotherapy for relapsed small cell lung cancer (SCLC) patients with pre-existing interstitial lung disease (ILD). Methods: A total of 77 patients who received topotecan for the treatment of relapsed SCLC between April 2007 and April...
- NICE backs down on PH guidance.
Enomoto, Yasunori; Inui, Naoki; Imokawa, Shiro; Karayama, Masato; Hasegawa, Hirotsugu; Ozawa, Yuichi; Matsui, Takashi; Yokomura, Koshi; Suda, Takafumi // GP: General Practitioner; 4/10/2009, p8
The article reports on the plan of the National Institute for Clinical Excellence (NICE) to withdraw draft guidance for pulmonary hypertension (PH) in Great Britain. This is attributed to the appeal of the UK Pulmonary Hypertension Association (PHA-UK) when NICE made recommendations on PH drugs...


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An Oamaru teenager who ended up with serious burns while playing with petrol after using the legal-high product K2 is calling for synthetic cannabis to be banned.
Kaden Johnston says he will be on the street, holding a protest placard himself, as soon as he can walk.
The 16-year-old suffered a combination of first, second and third-degree burns to his leg, stomach and hand when petrol caught fire.
He said he and a friend had smoked two or three 2.5g bags of K2 over a one or two-hour period before they got bored and decided to set a shoe on fire.
"We got petrol and poured it on his shoe, but in the process I spilled some down my leg and on to the floor.
"He lit his shoe ... and tried to put it out by waving it up and down in the air, but the flames from the shoe obviously just fell off on to the floor, which caught the petrol on the floor, which raced towards me and caught my pants on fire."
He said there was "no way" he would have been "huffing" the petrol. A combination of K2 and "youth stupidity" were to blame for his injuries.
He had been treated for burns for the past two weeks, but would remain in Oamaru Hospital for at least another week.
Doctors were still unsure whether he would need skin grafts.
However, compared with some other K2 users he had "come off lucky", he said.
"There's so many incidents were people have gone mental and not come right and had seizures and that sort of stuff."
K2 should "definitely" be banned, and he would join anti-K2 protests in Oamaru "as soon as I am able to walk properly", he said.
Although he was now aware that K2 made people do "silly things", when he first started smoking it two years ago, he was not aware "at all" of the product's potential dangers, because it was legal to buy in local dairies.
Other people also thought they were buying something safe, he said.
"They think it's a better, cheaper, healthier option than cannabis, but really it's not. It takes lives and makes people do stupid things.
"I realised ever since I started smoking it that it's really not good for you."


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America Online (AOL) is a leading Internet Service Provider (ISP) that provides users with access to both the Internet and special AOL content. It offers several individual channels of content and features that cover topics such as news and entertainment. Members can obtain up to seven email addresses per account, as well as 10MB of personal home page space. Buddy Lists and instant messaging features are also included. With an AOL account, you can utilize a vast array of chat rooms, message boards, and online stores. Other features include online screening software, user profiles, and easy access to the Internet with AOL's own browser. The installation utility simplifies setup by locating local dial-up numbers, finding your modem, and configuring your software. AOL provides hundreds of widespread dial-up numbers, many of which offer speeds of 56 kbps.
- Intermittent "unable to access message content" error message when reading a message
- Message status not working for aol.com, aim.com and all Tunome addresses
- When marking a message as Spam, the message does not appear in the Spam Folder until you sign out and sign back in
- Unable to mark message in Spam folder as "This is not Spam" or move to another folder
Reviewing 10.1 (220.127.116.11) Beta 2 (Aug 19, 2011)
Browser speed is excellent and everything works great. Thanks.
Reviewing 10.1 (126.96.36.199) Beta 2 (Aug 16, 2011)
It's been improved this version. Good work.
Reviewing 10.1 (22.214.171.124) Beta 2 (Dec 25, 2009)
I used to love AOL. Its VOIP service was second to none. It provided various automated messages to give callers -- including informer the caller than you are aware of their call and will call within a minute. Then, we could save the voice messages online, archive calls, and block nuisance callers. It was a great service. I loved its chat rooms through which I made many friends from around the country and world, some of whom became business partners. Many were very well educated, bright, accomplished, and thoroughly delightful people. I had absolutely no complaints about the service beyond AOL"s customer service being outsourced to Indian. I have had some of the most interesting political discussions in real time on current events in these chatrooms, believe it or not.
Today, AOL is a different story. The news articles which greet users are geared towards the lowest common denominator to reach the maximum number of hits to drum up advertising revenue. Most of the articles are not news and gear towards the gossipy, irrelevant side. Some even amount to bait and switch. That's the least of AOL's problems.
Yes, I have experienced all the system crashes other people have written about here. The chatrooms are virtually empty now. (Wonder why? Where did all the subscribers go?) The only good part is the "favorites" section which allows me to quickly link onto news bulletins I follow.
Other than that -- the system is slow and malfunctions due to the higih memory it uses. Then, it MANDATES updates. If the system is working fine before, why should I have to update it. AOL doesn't even ask permission to update -- it informs you that it is going to update right now or you will not be able to sign on again. Sometimes the system will freeze and throw you off ...to force an update. Once you try to sign on again, you will get this error. Going around it is to no avail. Trying a clean erase and then reinstall and AOL will still demand the update.
Why should I be forced into allowing AOL to download more crap onto my computer -- especially when I don't even know what it is ..and the system was working fine before the updates..and then crashes afterwards.
Even worse, AOL breaks off my Internet connection entirely. The only way to fix the problem is to do run system restore 2, maybe 3 times -- taking upwards of an hour to do this each time, losing that much time in productivity. Try using AOL again...and it will again allow me an hour of tme to use its browser, then throw me offline, and then cut off myInternet connection and force me to do another system restore. It's just hopeless.
RIght now...I have done a clean sweep of AOL. I want to get online to AOL so i can retrieve my favorites and access them through my Internet browser...but when I Reinstall AOL..it demands I Allow downloads...I finally condeded to the downloads..and AOL tells me the system needs to reboot in order for the upgrades to take effect. The problem is that each time i reboot, i get the same error message. Presumably AOL has crashed..and I will never be able to access AOL again until I get a new computer.
I don't know who these positive posters are, but I assume they are AOL employees or shareholders. The system is horrendously bad right now. I have been a patient, understanding, loyal AOL subscriber...and I have frankly reached my limit as well. Too many hassles. No benefit derided from it.
Reviewing 10.1 (22.214.171.124) Beta 2 (Dec 10, 2009)
Don't waste your time with this crap.
Reviewing 10.1 (22.214.171.124) Beta 2 (Dec 9, 2009)
A triumph of the human spirit!
Reviewing 10.1 (220.127.116.11) Beta 2 (Dec 8, 2009)
Software installation reports Unsupported Operating System on Windows 7. Will not install.
Reviewing 9.5 Final (0.4337.148.1) (Oct 29, 2009)
Turning off Topspeed in AOL 9.5. It's not hard. Go to program files\common files\AOL. Select Topspeed and send the whole miserable subdirectory to the landfill. Without Topspeed, the browser isn't bad--and the tabs are better than the little window button at the bottom of the page for opening a new window.
Reviewing 9.5 Final (0.4337.148.1) (Oct 15, 2009)
The way you feel about the company is not a review of the software. A review is about the functionality of the program.
With that being said, I have no problems with this release. All other 9.5 betas that I tried had lots of little problems that made the experience like having a stick poked in my eye.
As long as some people prefer an all in one solution to the on line experience, AOL will be around even if it is the free for broadband service.
Reviewing 9.5 Final (0.4337.148.1) (Oct 15, 2009)
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Reviewing 9.5 Final (0.4337.148.1) (Oct 15, 2009)
Ugh. I can't believe they still make this. Not sure how much worse they can make it.
Too bad your post is empty rhetoric, saying nothing at all of any substantive nature. And yes, they (meaning AOL) still makes "this" and "they" will continue to make this. The GM of this software is first class. Sure, there are still a few bugs, but show me a software that doesn't have a bug or two. I'll rate it a 4 and a half, but because the rating system doesn't accept halves, I'll make it a 5.
Next time try saying something about your experience with this GM build. That is if you even tried it.
Reviewing 9.5 Final (0.4337.148.1) (Oct 15, 2009)
Ugh. I can't believe they still make this. Not sure how much worse they can make it.
Reviewing 9.5 Refresh Beta 17ab (0.4337.125.1) (Sep 27, 2009)
beta17 isn't bad, for what it is. I have it working on Windows7 RTM satisfactorily, although it's the first AOL software I've used in a long time.
Folks like me, who can't stand moving ads, generally dislike this software, and use either Thunderbird or Firefox and webmail with something like adblock plus and noscript.
Reviewing 9.5 Refresh Beta 17ab (0.4337.125.1) (Sep 25, 2009)
Okay. For those the software satisfies, I imagine it is great. I am just the wrong demographic for that. I don't like it, that doesn't mean you won't.
I am giving it four stars.
Reviewing 9.5 Refresh Beta 17ab (0.4337.125.1) (Sep 24, 2009)
As their subscriber base is consistently declining, hopefully they will not be around much longer at all.
Reviewing 9.5 Refresh Beta 15 (0.4337.101.2) (Aug 28, 2009)
VictorAnderson and other bashers said:
Reviewing 9.5 Refresh Beta 13 (0.4337.89.1) (Aug 5, 2009)
Oh look - it's another AOL app - or wait its a giant bunch of banner ads surronding a tiny app.
This is one of those things that they should just let die. The whole business model is a complete failure...just give up already.
The only usefull thing I've ever got from AOL was one of those little tin's that they were shipping those worthless CD's in. Thanks AOL for the new dope-tray - but you can keep yer software. At least I have a new pot tray and a coaster for my beer (the cd).'
My dear Vicky and other non fans of AOL. AOL will be around long after you are gone. You've received the attention you crave, now move on. AOL is a very good product.
Reviewing 9.5 Refresh Beta 15 (0.4337.101.2) (Aug 27, 2009)
I agree with Soozy. Don't rate software you have NOT used. I find AOL is working hard to bring a quality item to the masses for free.
Reviewing 9.5 Refresh Beta 14 (0.4337.93.1) (Aug 12, 2009)
I thought these reviews were for reviewing the posted software, not bashing AOL.
If you don't like AOL, then don't use it!!!!!
Reviewing 9.5 Refresh Beta 13 (0.4337.89.1) (Aug 6, 2009)
die already! your time has passed
Reviewing 9.5 Refresh Beta 13 (0.4337.89.1) (Aug 5, 2009)
Newbs out there still use this?
Reviewing 9.5 Refresh Beta 13 (0.4337.89.1) (Aug 5, 2009)
Oh look - it's another AOL app - or wait its a giant bunch of banner ads surronding a tiny app.
This is one of those things that they should just let die. The whole business model is a complete failure...just give up already.
The only usefull thing I've ever got from AOL was one of those little tin's that they were shipping those worthless CD's in. Thanks AOL for the new dope-tray - but you can keep yer software. At least I have a new pot tray and a coaster for my beer (the cd).
Reviewing 9.5 Refresh Beta 13 (0.4337.89.1) (Aug 5, 2009)
It really isn't needed anymore...not only that, but it brought two fast systems (P4 3Ghz, 640MB RAM, and Pentium D, 2GB RAM) i tested it on to a crawl. Topspeed can be removed if you know where to look for the uninstaller (It's buried.)
As with another reviewer, this thing does make a mess. Failed installs are a pain in the butt to remove. (There's a reason i wrote an AOL removal tool to clean up all the various files/folders. There's also the countless reg entries left behind from DLL Registration...)
Reviewing 9.5 Refresh Beta 12 (0.4337.80.1) (Jul 24, 2009)
Sven123456789 said:
Reviewing 9.5 Refresh Beta 12 (0.4337.80.1) (Jul 23, 2009)
AOL still exists?
Yes, and AOL will probably outlive you.
This version is a nice imporvement from Beta 11 and has fixed a number of problems. Though not ready for prime time yet (it is after all a beta build) it is getting there.
Reviewing 9.5 Refresh Beta 12 (0.4337.80.1) (Jul 23, 2009)
AOL still exists?
Reviewing 9.5 Refresh Beta 11b (0.4337.74.1) (Jul 15, 2009)
Oh good Lord,,,, here we go again.
Why can't they fix this thing? It's too bloated with ads.
All the 9.0 versions have a disgusting ad at the bottom of the read email window. The bad thing is, if you have been idle for a little while & try to read your email. The ads take a very long time to load & you can't read your email till the ad loads. Disgusting behavior.
I am an AOL fan, I've used it many many years from the first AOL 3.0 but I'm getting tired of the huge memory and processor drain it causes.
I'm using a fast cable connection & AOL drags along like as if I was using dial up. I can only imagine what it's like using it on dial up. Wow.
Reviewing 9.5 Refresh Beta 11 (0.4337.74.1) (Jul 10, 2009)
Well what can I say about this beta?
I had trouble installing it.
The download was corrupt & I had to do all kinds of clean up.
After a few more tries it finally installed..
I'm having all kinds of little odd things going on.
The big monkey on AOL's back is that freaking top speed.
You can't uninstall or get rid of it.
On a cable connection I don't really need top speed at all.
We should have the option of un-installing this dinosaur.
AOL closes with no warning from time to time & re-starts.
After it restarts some of my options have to be configured again.
Like showing tips at start up & fast start & so on.
Fast start is another pain in the arse. Having AOL load at start up is fine if all you do is AOL. But it loads all kinds of crap in the memory & if you aren't using AOL at the time & doing other things, it's a memory hog.
I just don't like the way the 9.5 is going. The 9.1 is fine and at least it works most of the time.
Reviewing 9.5 Refresh Beta 10 (0.4337.72.3) (Jul 2, 2009)
tannman1 said:
Reviewing 9.5 Refresh Beta 10 (0.4337.72.3) (Jul 2, 2009)
"One would think that a company with a poor reputation and in danger of death would do their best to raise the the quality of their software. But as usual it is clunky, slow and real good at screwing up a users PC. If you need to use AOL then simply use IE or FF and save yourself a headache. AOL is a relic who may be on the out sooner then later."
"One" might want to consider that this particular version of AOL software is still in beta just as "one" might want also to consider that the "clunky, slow, and real good at screwing up..." might have something to do with "one(s)" computer as well. Did "One" think of those things? Probably not. This particular version of AOL 9.5 had a quicker download and install than previous versions. Though it still has some bugs in it, unllike "One", these bugs have been reported on. For me, the software is responsive, and yes, I would expect to find a problem or two here and there. I rate this version a 4 because of improvements. Perhaps "One" wants to promote IE or FF?
Reviewing 9.5 Refresh Beta 10 (0.4337.72.3) (Jul 2, 2009)
One would think that a company with a poor reputation and in danger of death would do their best to raise the the quality of their software. But as usual it is clunky, slow and real good at screwing up a users PC. If you need to use AOL then simply use IE or FF and save yourself a headache. AOL is a relic who may be on the out sooner then later.
Reviewing 9.5 Refresh Beta 9 (0.4337.68.1) (Jun 23, 2009)
LakotaElf said:
Reviewing 9.5 Refresh Beta 7 (0.4337.60.1) (May 27, 2009)
"This software is frightening and when I put it in, I thought, what will it do to my computer as AOL is notorious for making not so good things with lots of adware to it. So I took it out, did not like it, did not trust it and put in Trillian Astra to take care of all my messenger needs. It is excellent and I have never had a problem with Trillian Astra..... You all should try it."
Though AOL 9.5 beta does have Instant Messaging, that is only one small part of what it has. What is so frightening about a program that you make vague comments that it is "nororious..."? I suspect you came here to promote Trillian rather than give AOL 9.5 a try. Try the Beta 9 now. OK?
Reviewing 9.5 Refresh Beta 8 (0.4337.64.1) (Jun 12, 2009)
"America Online (AOL) is a leading Internet Service Provider (ISP)"
Really? Perhaps if we substitute "is" with "was".....
Reviewing 9.5 Refresh Beta 7 (0.4337.60.1) (May 27, 2009)
This software is frightening and when I put it in, I thought, what will it do to my computer as AOL is notorious for making not so good things with lots of adware to it. So I took it out, did not like it, did not trust it and put in Trillian Astra to take care of all my messenger needs. It is excellent and I have never had a problem with Trillian Astra..... You all should try it.
Reviewing 9.5 Refresh Beta 5 (0.4337.43.1) (Apr 28, 2009)
Slow as molasses. Does a great job locking up the computer.
Reviewing 9.5 Refresh Beta 3 (0.4337.36.1) (Apr 8, 2009)
AOL 9.5 refresh Beta 4 is available on the AOL beta Central site. The issues I Had with the software have been corrected. It's working as it should now.
If you use AOL on broadband, try the beta 4 & tell them what you think in AOL feedback on the AOL beta site. I rate the new beta 4 a full 5 stars. But this posting is still under the beta 3 section of Beta News, so my rating stands as a 3 for that beta.
Reviewing 9.5 Refresh Beta 2 (0.4337.35.3) (Mar 23, 2009)
I've reported a problem I've been having with all builds of the AOL 9.5 without it being addressed by the beta team.
I had entered PCH.com for contests to win big money. They send me emails with links to pages with information specific to my entries.
These links will not open with any of the AOL 9.5 builds. I only get the AOL search page with unrelated information on it. I've also had problems even opening links from AOL greetings using the 9.5 builds.
If AOL is serious about this version of the software, they should address the problems that users report to them. I try each build & if it's not fixed, I uninstall it and revert back to the 9.0VR or the 9.1 even if they are a little more memory hungry.
Reviewing 9.5 Refresh Beta 2 (0.4337.35.3) (Mar 23, 2009)
DoHickey said:
Reviewing 9.5 Refresh Beta 2 (0.4337.35.3) (Mar 23, 2009)
"I've reported a problem I've been having with all builds of the AOL 9.5 without it being addressed by the beta team.
I had entered PCH.com for contests to win big money. They send me emails with links to pages with information specific to my entries.
These links will not open with any of the AOL 9.5 builds. I only get the AOL search page with unrelated information on it. I've also had problems even opening links from AOL greetings using the 9.5 builds.
If AOL is serious about this version of the software, they should address the problems that users report to them. I try each build & if it's not fixed, I uninstall it and revert back to the 9.0VR or the 9.1 even if they are a little more memory hungry."
As a general rule, AOL does not respond to message board posts on their beta forum, nor do they, when a bug report is submitted, respond to those either. If enough individuals report a particular bug or problem, they will go to work on it. Perhaps you are only one individual or one of a very few and therefore AOL does not see the need to address the issue. So, did you submit a bug report on the problem?
Reviewing 9.5 (0.4337.24.1) (Feb 14, 2009)
The only thing visibly different about this version and 9.1 is the tabbed browsing.
The final release has bugs, Clicking on the settings icon on the toolbar brings up a welcome to AOL web page to sign in & it won't let you sign in. Videos from the AOL welcome screen won't always play anything but the advertisements. If you get links in emails, this version brings up the AOL search page when you click on the links. I used the AOL 9.1 with the same email and it worked perfectly.
It's not like they haven't released a version of AOL before that wasn't bug free, but this is really flawed. Some of the beta testers say that you should do a fresh install & not upgrade from another version, and you won't have problems. Well folks I tried that & I still had the same problems. The final release posted on the AOL downloads web page is buggy and should be removed and fixed. Replace the 9.5 download on that page with the 9.1 that was removed.
At least the 9.1 works better for now. Please fix this flawed program & re-release it.
I know that some people wish AOL would go away & that's your opinion, not your problem. Some people out here in computer land still like AOL and find that it is easy to use. Plus not everyone has access to a DSL, Cable service or feel safe using Netzero, Juno and others. Give us an AOL that isn't full of bugs and we will use it.
Reviewing 9.5 (0.4337.24.1) (Feb 13, 2009)
The listed version # is incorrect.
The actual version # is 4337.29 and this GMed yesterday.
Great version of AOL with tabbed browsing.
And I so wish that BetaNews would pull the bashing posts and actual stick to those that actual rate the software.
Reviewing 9.5 (0.4337.24.1) (Feb 13, 2009)
It's a little early for April Fool's isn't it, is this real? LMAO, I didn't know this still existed. The company yes but not their crappy internet service. Now where did I put the drivers for my 33.6 modem, and I better check for updates for my Windows 3.1 network stack. Then again maybe I'll just wait for a new version from Prodigy or Compuserve.
Reviewing 9.5 Beta 5 (0.4337.20.1) (Jan 30, 2009)
When it isn't frozen up solid it's alright if you like and use AOL wait for it to finish beta.
Because of what AOL is trying to improve on this version I gove it a 4
Reviewing 9.5 Beta 4 (4337.17) (Jan 25, 2009)
RE: the mandatory upgrade notice box from 9.0 to 9.1
I have found that if you upgrade from 9.0 to the 9.1 and use it for about 5 minutes. You can uninstall the 9.1 only and go back to your 9.0 version & you won't get the upgrade notification anymore.
I've not used the McAfee again after I had to do a system recovery from the first time I used it.
AOL 9.0 & 9.1 do just fine with Norton, AVG, Avast, But has a problem with Comodo.
As far as those who hate AOL, well get over it & go on. Some people find it easy and they like it.
Go toot your anti AOL horn someplace else. This isn't an opinion poll, it's for giving a review of software offered here.
With that being said, This version is alright, It has some bugs, read the known issues on the AOL beta site before installing it. If you do that you won't be so surprised when you notice a bug. The AOL email in the 9.0 versions (not the 10.0) are still the best for weeding out spam & basic functionality.
Reviewing 9.5 Beta 4 (4337.17) (Jan 25, 2009)
AOL is still in business because all new PC's have AOL installed on them. You can't go anywhere without seeing AOL's free disc's at a checkout counter.
IMHO AOL has the best online chatting community period. I went to my mothers house and she was chatting with about 20 people all chatting about Quilting. It was the Quilting chat channel. My moms still doing the 56k thing too. I'm the only one in my large family not using AOL.
I think I'm gonna try it out, it's free for a month or something isn't it?
Reviewing 9.5 Beta 4 (4337.17) (Jan 23, 2009)
How are these bozo's still in business? Does anyone actually USE this crap anymore? OMG it works great for 56k dialups? hahahaha. Hey 1995 called and what's their internet service back.....damn!
Reviewing 9.5 Beta 4 (4337.17) (Jan 23, 2009)
Much better with tabbed browsing
Reviewing 9.1 Beta 8 (Oct 13, 2008)
AOL 9.1 is total CRAP! I have just uninstalled it due to all the same complaints everyone else is mentioning. How can they have such bad software? I just wish I could get my parents to get rid of it, but they will not change!
Reviewing 9.1 Beta 8 (Mar 31, 2008)
I have just uninstalled AOL 9.1 for the last time.
It constantly crashes and you recieve a canned aol message that if you see this error message repeatedly restart your AOL software. Repeatedly to me was several times a night. Then Windows started recovering from serious errors. I tried installing 10.0 thinking perhaps that versions solved the problems of it's predecesor. Not so I ecperienced the same problems. AOL tech support is useless. The advised me to turn off my Mc Afee System Guard, which solved my inability to sign on to the software, but left my PC unprotected. I perforemd a clean uninstall of all AOL software and went back to 9.0 which never gave me a problem. Now I am getting notices that the upgrade to 9.1 is "Mandatory" I think it is time to find a new provider
Reviewing 9.1 Beta 8 (Nov 9, 2007)
AOL 9.1 is now the available upgrade on the AOL server. I upgraded my AOL 9.0 security edition to the new 9.1 version & had some problems.
But first I need to address the paying for AOL comment. If you have a broadband connection you do not have to pay AOL anything and you can use the software as long as you have an AOL screen name or AIM account.
With that being said, here is my review of the AOL 9.1 software.
The download took a while even on cable internet.
AOL install went smooth & I did like the install options that let me do a custom install.
Being able to surf without signing on the AOL service is a nice option, but on broadband it's not something I would really do.
Opening the email window now shows all my email folders without using the manage email selection.
Running AOL 9.1 after the install wasn't bad, it seemed to be rather quick to respond. Then I restarted my computer & signed back onto AOL & left it sitting while I had dinner.
When I returned to the computer & brought it back from being idle, it was a different experience.
My screen took a long time to recover from being idle. My hard drive kept acting like it was loading things. After my machine stopped doing all that stuff, it wasn't as quick as the first run of AOL 9.1 was.
When I minimize this version to use my other browser or check mail in outlook express. I click to maximize AOL again and it isn't a pretty sight. Sometimes when maximizing, the AOL toolbar doesn't populate with all the text and icons & I have to restart the application.
So, I returned to the AOL 9.0 security edition after a few hours of dealing with the upgrade.
The uninstall went smooth without any trouble.
I don't recommend upgrading to this version of AOL unless you have a dual core processor and 2 gig of ram or more.
My machine has 1 gig ram and a 2.41 ghz processor.
I rate AOL 9.1 with a 3 because of the options it gives on install, nothing more.
Reviewing 9.1 Beta 8 (Oct 15, 2007)
I didn't try this, so i can't bash the software itself, but we all know the deal with aol software. Like other users with a laugh- leading ISP? I can only judge by the 100 some odd people in my address book. And only 2 have a AOL.com address. So i guess you can call it a stretch to say they are still a leading provide. Did a google search to find more stats, but nothing came up. Funny the day they annouce a big layoff they still release a product. And it might be the lowest rated product i ever saw here at Betanews. 2.0, thats pretty bad.
Reviewing 9.1 Beta 8 (Oct 15, 2007)
lol leading isp??? maybe 10 yrs ago lol i cant beleive people would waste there money on aol n its expensive too its not cheap. Ive seen wat aol does to computers its ruins it n puts ton of garbage in comps.
Reviewing 9.1 Beta 8 (Oct 15, 2007)
This has to be the funniest description about AOL I've ever heard. A "leading" internet service provider? How many people still waste their time (and possibly money) with AOL?
Reviewing 9.1 Beta 7 (Oct 11, 2007)
Trash, plain and simple. I am an MCSE and have worked on MANY computers where AOL software caused nothing but OS and system issues.
It is ashame when people that do not 'know' about other services fall victim to AOL and then must pay a Tech to basiclly tell them to get rid of AOL, and your system will be fine. 100% of my field test have proven correct when AOL was installed and used, that was always the case.
Reviewing 9.1 Beta 7 (Oct 11, 2007)
Reviewing 9.1 Beta 7 (Oct 11, 2007)
Absolute garbage. AOL used to be top dog for all things internet in the US now the word AOL is synonymous with rot and failure.
Want another reason not to use this crap?
check this out......
Reviewing 9.1 Beta 7 (Oct 10, 2007)
lol. People still use AOL? Funny.
Reviewing 9.1 Beta 7 (Oct 10, 2007)
Ugly interface, bloated software...
Reviewing 9.1 Beta 7 (Oct 10, 2007)
AOL is and has always been crapware! They constantly installed programs without the users knowledge or consent. Their own programs are big, bloated, and CPU/memory intensive.
Avoid this program and any others like the plague!
Reviewing 9.1 Beta (Oct 4, 2007)
O' cut the crap.Many programs install things without you knowing.
Lets all just admit the reason it gets a low score is cause its called AMERICA ONLINE..now if it was anything else, we would all love it..and if it was opensource, it could suck all it wants :)
as for a review, i dont use it anymore but i have family who does and i would go with version 8.
p.s in response to the video below...this guy here has a point..
''Betascott (78 days ago)
Beta would love to hear from others that can reproduce this bug. So far we can not reproduce this. Also we want to know of anyone that has other examples of Flash sites causing this kind of issue. http://beta.aol.com or email BetaScott''
Reviewing 9.1 Beta (Jul 11, 2007)
Straight garbage. Does not uninstall cleanly, leaves services that have to be manually disabled and DLL files that are part of this suite. There is nothing this browser has to offer over IE with GOOGLE and YAHOO toolbars installed. AOL has always been spam central is known for its deceptive business practices:
Garbage from a garbage company.
Reviewing 9.1 Beta (Jul 11, 2007)
The AOL client excellent!
Download the new beta and browse with it not signed in. It's fast and very stable.
As far as it goes for the AOL Service when signed in is complete CRAP!!!!
AOL Service screws this browser up.
The reason I rated it all 5s is because the client is built correctly. It's the AOL Service when you sign in that screws it up.
here's a video I made beta testing and sent in to AOL for fixing.
In this video, you will see how great the browser works before signing into AOL. As soon as you sign in, is when the client goes to CRAP!
Video speaks for itself doesn't it.
Reviewing 9.1 Beta (Jul 11, 2007)
"AOL you need to STOP sending your bush-monkey henchmen in here artificially bumping up these ratings with all 5's. That is utterly RIDICULOUS! All 5's??"
LOL, I give AOL 5's because I like it. I'm glad I don't have to worry about individuals like you who never state a valid reason for not liking a piece of software like AOL.
Reviewing 9.1 Beta (Jul 11, 2007)
Another disaster from AOL.
Wonder if they'll ever get a clue, or just continue to loose people until the company finally fades away into the darkness......
Reviewing 9.1 Beta (Jul 10, 2007)
Eh, I have to agree with c4p0ne, AOL suite has always sucked horribly; the only product that I've found to actually be decent was the stand-alone explorer they made for awhile.
Also, this whole net-install crap has to change.
Reviewing 9.1 Beta (Jul 10, 2007)
This is the sh*ttiest piece of sh*t ever created. From v1.0 all the way up to 9. Just a straight clear end-to-end line of bloated crap. AOL you need to STOP sending your bush-monkey henchmen in here artificially bumping up these ratings with all 5's. That is utterly RIDICULOUS! All 5's?? WTF is this the outer limits!? NOT EVEN eternally computer illiterate AOL users believe that!!
This software ranks right up there (but not quite) with Symantec garbage. Every time I have to go to a client house or place of business and deal with this AOL garbage it just brings my day down. Then you go and take a RESPECTED name like Kaspersky and toss their superior product into your garbage! WTF are you trying to do AOL, destroy the Kaspersky name? Jeez.
Reviewing 9.0 VR (Vista Ready) Beta 5 Build (4327.55) (Nov 23, 2006)
This browser ROCKS!!!
Browser speed is phenomenal and everything works great :) Finally, the client is back in shape.
Excellent Job, AOL!
Also, it's best to only have one client on your PC. Multiple clients can cause problems with speed and web page loading. That's what happened to me. I erased all the AOL products and reinstalled AOL VR again and everything works perfectly.
BetaNews needs to update the screen shot. That's a shot of 8.0 not 9.0.
Reviewing 9.0 VR (Vista Ready) Beta 5 Build (4327.55) (Oct 28, 2006)
i am using aol 9.0 vr beta 6 and it works great. it is accually faster than the aol 9.0 se gm version in my opinion and there are less bugs. the only bug i have experienced is that the system information disappears after install. this should be fixed hopefully in a future beta. i recommend this to anyone who has an aol full client. it is the best version available =)
Reviewing Security Edition VC Beta 3 (4327.37) (Sep 15, 2006)
Too many bugs? It's beta, ya know? As a beta tester you report the bugs, post messages on the boards and get feedback. Apparently you don't know what beta is. Heck, even GM software has bugs. Maybe not as many but you get my point, I'm sure.
Reviewing 9.0 Security Edition (Aug 2, 2005)
The Best Online Service Ive Used.. Been Testing Since 6.0
Reviewing 9.0 Security Edition (Aug 2, 2005)
AOL Security Edition is the best AOL client I've ran.
And one of my first AOL Beta test. =)
Reviewing 8.0 (May 7, 2005)
This is the only aol version worth using (aol 5 is ok too). The other versions are bloated and somehow 9 messed everything up on my windows installation ...it installed far too much crap and i dont like how many registries it installs .
i had to clean 200 after i uninstalled it from the hardrive etc...
btw , i agree with the user below . stop bashing aol cause its the ''kool'' thing to do . grow up already .
Reviewing 8.0 (Oct 17, 2002)
Why don't you AOL-knockers get your facts right before wasting everyone's bandwidth? A: it's not adware, it CARRIES ads, adware apps gain their revenue via the ads, AOL already has the revenue from it's fees. It's an I*S*P, not an I*A*P, the *S* part is the ads, chats etc. B: AdAware disagrees with you, not 1 adware or spyware component is installed by AOL 8. AOL knocking is so passe
Reviewing 7.0 (Oct 18, 2001)
Nice work, I'm sad to see they are /still/ embeding Internet Explorer in the browser. Maybe on Mozilla's 1.0 release party they will do that.
Reviewing 7.0 (Oct 17, 2001)
I have used AOL. I was an AOL customer for several months. I have used AOL 4, 5, and 6 and can say that the only difference between them was the amount of ads in them, and the amount of ads increased as the version number increased. I think it's safe to assume AOL 7 is AOL 6 with more ads and a different version number on it. So are opinions are useful to people considering using AOL
Reviewing 7.0 (Oct 17, 2001)
I love how some of the exciting new features include MORE ways to bombard users with "special offers", ie annoying advertising. AOL has so many damn ads they should (and probably could) start offering the service for free. People say the chat rooms are good - well, I guess if you are a horny 10 yr old boy with Attention deficit disorder, theres something to love. Really, AOL still hasn't managed to provide one feature that could possibly make it a hit with users who know what they're doing and can tell when they're being screwed: the ability to behave like a NORMAL internet service provider, sans advertising and their crappy, bloated software. Even MSN has the ability to avoid the horrible MSN Explorer software and dial up with DUN.
Reviewing 7.0 (Oct 16, 2001)
Ok, i know i should normally hate aol but you just cannot beat aol in terms of chat rooms. everybody i know uses it. Although i have a cable modem with xp, it is an improvement. the xp 6.0 aol just did not like to connect but the new version loads faster, and just responds better. Granted it is more of a cosmetic change but i still must say i still pay my $9.95 or whatever i pay for it. Just note i would Never pay $21.95 or anything close to it.
Reviewing 7.0 (Oct 16, 2001)
i use it. only for the e-mail though. i get a lot of e-mail in aol's proprietory format with attachments which are not available if they are sent to outlook. i also route the less important e-mail to aol.
anyways, i like how microsoft skipped version numbers for their msn explorer to catch up with aol and release it on the same day.
Did they re-institute the 10 meg home pages again, or is the description incorrect? Last I heard they removed all member pages.


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Plzzzz vote for color. Painter waiting...
Hi experts,
Here is the link to the area:
Behind these drapes which I'm going to take out are big slider windows that face the backyard and the room is well lit naturally.
As you can see the kitchen, this room will also serve as a dining area and a small sitting area. Couldnt take the picture till the end.
For the wall colors in this room I am contemplating between yellow and green. (I dont like the yellow that the previous owner did in here and already taken out the lamps hanging from the ceiling)
Which color should I go with....???
I want to go with green as in the future I want to bring in furniture that has cream & white geometrical pattern on the chairs and a cream sofa. But DH wants to go with yellow as its a warm color and I understand his vision too...
As this'll be a place that we all will spend most of our time, I want it to be nice not restless.
Ahh need your advice please........
suggest some good colors as well..
Thanks a million...
In looking at your cabinets and your countertops, and taking into consideration the fabric you are going to introduce, I would go with something more on a warm taupe, or toasty golden color. The green and the yellow are wonderful colors, but (this is my taste and may not be yours, mind you:wink:) I would prefer to see more nautral palette with warmth in the color that will allow the new fabric to STAND up and the counters in the kitchen stand up also.
Man...that must be one patient painter! I'd say he's a keeper.:)
Thanks..I am feeling good that i'll be able to bring in my future furniture. With the golden/yellow color what color would look good in the foyer area??
Thanks a ton..
sherwin williams. restraind gold ,koi pond ,lemond grass,whole weat.:huh:
My wife just looked at your photo....her suggestion is to remove the cornice boxes and curtains...then take another picture....all that color is making it difficult to see your own personal taste......
Foyer color
ok so I've finalised:
for kitchen - BM (straw) - its a light yellow
for living room - BM (hazelnut cream)
for half bath - BM (dune grass) its a matte green
enough of pricey BM ... for the rest of the house I want to go Behr or from Lowe's
What would be a nice color complimenting the above colors for foyer? Obviously, I want a warm, bright feeling in there. Please suggest....
You should probably feed that painter that is waiting, he's likely getting hungry by now.:)
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Shocka: Narcissism among college students at worrisome levels
posted at 12:15 pm on February 27, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Who could have guessed that reminding kids how special they are at every turn would have unhappy consequences?
Imagine a country populated by the teenagers in "Six Degrees of Separation."
Today's college students are more narcissistic and self-centered than their predecessors, according to a comprehensive new study by five psychologists who worry that the trend could be harmful to personal relationships and American society…
The researchers describe their study as the largest ever of its type and say students' NPI scores have risen steadily since the current test was introduced in 1982. By 2006, they said, two-thirds of the students had above-average scores, 30 percent more than in 1982…
The researchers traced the phenomenon back to what they called the "self-esteem movement" that emerged in the 1980s, asserting that the effort to build self-confidence had gone too far…
The study asserts that narcissists "are more likely to have romantic relationships that are short-lived, at risk for infidelity, lack emotional warmth, and to exhibit game-playing, dishonesty, and over-controlling and violent behaviors."…
"Current technology fuels the increase in narcissism," Twenge said. "By its very name, MySpace encourages attention-seeking, as does YouTube."…
Campbell said the narcissism upsurge seemed so pronounced that he was unsure if there were obvious remedies.
I've got a ton of blogworthy stuff in the pipe so I'll leave it to you guys to extrapolate about blue- versus red-state parenting models, future voting patterns, demographics, etc etc. Meanwhile, if you haven't seen it yet, here's the not-at-all narcissistic clip of a UNC student breaking up with his girlfriend in front of a huge crowd of people that's gone nuclear at YouTube. It was revealed today to be a hoax, just as the viral bridezilla clip from last month was. If we have to put up with a generation of attention-hungry camera whores, at least we'll get some entertainment out of it.
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Narcissism? Yeah I've had one of those removed.
Couldn't this just be teenagers being teenagers? I mean, I don't know about you guys, but I was pretty narcissistic when I had -teen as a suffix to my age.
JasonG on February 27, 2007 at 12:21 PM
Well, if you believe the study, the teens today are considerably more teenager-y than teens were 25 years ago.
Allahpundit on February 27, 2007 at 12:24 PM
I'm not narcissitic, I'm just right
(and i'm 23)
Defector01 on February 27, 2007 at 12:26 PM
I need to show this to… well, just about all my friends. Most aren't teenagers anymore but a lot of the narcissism stuck with them anyway.
Darth Executor on February 27, 2007 at 12:34 PM
I was man of the year.
infidel on February 27, 2007 at 12:37 PM
I think that teens are somewhat narcissistic by nature. I saw an interesting documentary about a study that suggested that a person's sense of empathy is not fully developed until his or her early 20s.
Having said that, I don't find it surprising at all that the "self-esteem" movement would produce a generation of more narcissist young people. Increased narcissism is clearly evident in the kinds of celebrities that young people worship, such as Paris Hilton, etc., and the "skank culture" evidenced by those celebrities and items such as Bratz dolls. Reality TV shows are fundamentally narcissistic.
The kind of moral preening that you seen in young liberals is also essentially narcissistic.
SWLiP on February 27, 2007 at 12:38 PM
I find it prevalent even among the middle age crowd. Being divorced and having to "get out" more, I find that even basic manners are missing in most people's repertoire of social skills. JFK's "ask not…." concept seems to be long forgotten. to boot.Then again,this is the SF.CA area.friggin' moonbats by the bay central.
Not me…..I'm better than that (and you BTW)
omnipotent on February 27, 2007 at 12:38 PM
Not me…..I'm better than that (and you BTW)
omnipotent on February 27, 2007 at 12:38 PM
Goracle is that you?
infidel on February 27, 2007 at 12:43 PM
Now, how do we recruit these kids into the Military? They are a group of many, looking ugly sometimes, and it all isn't "ME" in the military.
Just sort of making a statement of the mind set, the recruiters and advertisers must be up against.
StuLongIsland on February 27, 2007 at 12:44 PM
That clip is obviously a hoax; what college kids listen to Dixie Chicks anyway?
saint kansas on February 27, 2007 at 12:53 PM
Self esteem is overrated. What happened to humility and "love your neighbor as yourself" and "do unto others what you would have them do unto you?"
Mission accomplished, Mr. Dewey.
Instead we're supposed to "be all that we can be," but nobody defines that. It should be, "Be all that God wants you to be." But we wouldn't want to "shove" "inhibiting" values and beliefs down the throats of young children, now would we?
emmaline1138 on February 27, 2007 at 12:54 PM
I was man of the year.
You were man of the year? I was man of the year, too!
amerpundit on February 27, 2007 at 12:55 PM
You were man of the year? I was man of the year, too!
You couldn't have been, I WAS!
Defector01 on February 27, 2007 at 12:56 PM
Allah, I agree with that study. 25 years ago this May I graduated from high school and went off to college. I am not saying I wasn't somewhat narcissistic myself but not to the extent that these kids today are. I have a friend whose sister works for a small, private university near Indianapolis, IN, and heads up student activities for the school. She said the last 3-5 years have really seen a different breed of kids coming through. She's been there for 15 years total now in some capacity with student services so she's seen a lot. I know that kids certainly weren't perfect & I was one of them. I did bring booze into my room, drive like a fool, did stupid things but these were generally the same things other kids were doing. It wasn't about "me". One of my high school classmates has a 19 year old at Purdue. She says over and over again that they have raised a monster and are doing things much differently with their 12 and 8 year olds. BTW when did it become the job of the parents to also pay for college. I mean if you can afford a full ride that's great. I'm not saying my folks didn't help me out some but I had to work, get scholarships and join the ROTC. I still left owing about 5K when I graduated.
Stu, I think the kids that join the military are probably raised differently than the majority of these kids. But I could be wrong
Catie96706 on February 27, 2007 at 12:58 PM
Well, if you believe the study, the teens today are considerably more teenager-y than teens were 25 years ago.
The Free-Love generation was (and is) mired in narcissism. Hell, you have an entire group of people that are called the "Me generation." This just strikes me as little more than a "we weren't like this at that age" by old farts in tweed jackets.
JasonG on February 27, 2007 at 1:02 PM
These people are jerks. I like how the "men" are all chanting "SLUT!" to the young woman. Where is the Group of 88 when you need them?
bloggless on February 27, 2007 at 1:04 PM
My kid beat up your honor student.
My child is citizen of the month at my elementary school – but so was everyone else's child.
lorien1973 on February 27, 2007 at 1:06 PM
You were man of the year? I was man of the year, too!
I was TIME'S man of the year. Beat that! Losers!
lorien1973 on February 27, 2007 at 1:06 PM
You couldn't have been, I WAS!
Defector01 on February 27, 2007 at 12:56 PM
Wait…we all were 'person of the year' in 2006. Stop it!
When I think of narcissism, one of my favorite words, along with idiosyncrasy, the person who comes to mind is, no doubt, Mr. John Kerry. Mr. Edwards is a close second.
For objectivity, I'm sure that this 'sickness' isn't partial to politics.
Entelechy on February 27, 2007 at 1:09 PM
We see a lot of this narcissism on American Idol. People without talent believe that they are special. Simon gives a dose of reality and he is accused of being cruel.
Now fast forward 5 years or so when these charming and articulate people are applying for jobs. If John Edwards wins the White House they could be in charge of national security.
mkstach on February 27, 2007 at 1:10 PM
What's interesting is that esteem may be going up, but there is much less reason for kids to feel good about their educational achievement. According to the graph linked, the state with the highest percentage of students who score at or above proficiency in reading is Massachusetts at 44 percent.
K-12 education has been so worried about how their students feel that they've forgotten to actually teach. The need for remedial education – just to get students to minimal higher ed standards – is on the rise.
In addition, the esteem curriculum has utterly failed to actually make a lot of students feel better about themselves. I can't link to the data, as it's in journals, but the rates of self-harm (cutting) among college students is on the rise; alcohol and drug abuse is growing; risky sexual behaviors are more common; and the number of students on psychiatric medications is definitely up.
I really hope this study addresses the serious harm that an over-focus on esteem has done to academic achievement, and how little it's done to actually raise esteem to the point where students don't feel the need to engage in dangerous or self-harmful behavior.
It'll be interesting to see how they handle dhimmitude. I guess they could convert, but then there's that burqa issue. What's a narcissistic girl to do?
RedWinged Blackbird on February 27, 2007 at 1:12 PM
These students needed to spend more time in church. In church kids and adults learn humility, sacrifice, compassion, and caring for others. Of course, the parents of the narcissists probably thought that the church had no relevance.
Mallard T. Drake on February 27, 2007 at 1:18 PM
It WAS a hoax http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070227/ap_on_hi_te/online_breakup
GEC on February 27, 2007 at 1:19 PM
We see a lot of this narcissism on American Idol. People without talent believe that they are special. Simon gives a dose of reality and he is accused of being cruel.
I don't think that's narcissism. That's delusional. I bet everyone who thinks they are great are constantly told by their friends that they are great singers – just cuz their friends don't want to hurt their feelings. I blame their friends (and so should they when simon thwacks them). I guess it feeds into their narcissism, though.
lorien1973 on February 27, 2007 at 1:21 PM
Be reasonable, do it my way!
The clip looks like society checks and balances in action.
The jerky boyfriend was shown in public for what he is and he'll probably continue receiving the life lessons he needs to conform and become acceptable.
I agree with the study, NPD is more rampant now than before.
Hopefully, societies' natural consequences of acting a fool will straighten most of them out.
If we could just channel some of that narcissism into a sense of nationalistic pride, some good may come of it.
That's interesting. I did some work a year or so ago that looked at generational marketing, and I seem to recall that this generation (generation Y or echo boomers) was refreshingly altruistic, meaning volunteering at much higher rates than the previous generations.
Would seem to contradict this study though.
honora on February 27, 2007 at 2:17 PM
Well I think this is a junk psych article on MSNBC for public consumption that mixes so many premises that it does not come across coherently. However, umm, I'm sorry but self-esteem is NOT over-rated nor is a narcissistic personality disorder (the article defines a "narcissist") a product of "too much" self-esteem. It is in fact the opposite of self-esteem, which is why narcissists are so insecure and lack self-esteem and is why they are fake and manipulative in their relationships with others. It's in the literature; I swear I'm not making this up, haha!
The people who have the biggest impact on a person's personality and self-esteem are the parents and their chosen parenting style or lack thereof, as was patronizingly mentioned in the article as "a possible antidote". The fact that more parents are willing to be lazy and not rear their children with a proper educational background or discipline with an authoritative parenting style; and instead let their children rot their brains and systematically reduce their attention spans by shoving the TV, the internet, or a cell phone in front of them at increasingly young ages, is the reason why we have so many jerks in my generation. Of course the educational standards in schools and university's in the U.S. are laughable, I mean appalling too, and are responsible for much of the blame as well.
I am encouraged however if the findings reveal a more healthy egoistic view of the world in my generation; as opposed to the predominant, altruistic, worldview that a person must sacrifice their personal interests, desires, and aspirations to others in order be happy and lead a good life. But who knows what the research really shows, it's hard to tell anything in this article when the last line defeats the whole premise of the story by saying… "It would be more depressing if people answered, 'No, I'm not special'". Umm yeah…
Roark on February 27, 2007 at 2:19 PM
That's interesting. I did some work a year or so ago that looked at generational marketing, and I seem to recall that this generation (generation Y or echo boomers) was refreshingly altruistic, meaning volunteering at much higher rates than the previous generations.
What are the age parameters for generation Y?
If you keep telling your child over and over again that they cannot fail, it makes sense that the end result will be an adult that things they can succeed at anything. We all need our Kobayashi Maru
BohicaTwentyTwo on February 27, 2007 at 2:20 PM
To up the nerd factor, I'll link it.
BohicaTwentyTwo on February 27, 2007 at 2:20 PM
It's almost impossible now for an American student to be able to transfer into a foreign school system, but foreign students find it easy to handle American schools. American kids' educational skills are so low, at every grade, they can't handle the foreign levels of work. It's not just the self-esteem, it s the competencies. Who wants these students to end up as airline pilots or surgeons? Course, they won't pass the tests, unless they're dummied down. No risk of that, eh?
naliaka on February 27, 2007 at 2:27 PM
I remember my mom telling me "the world does NOT revolve around you." I hear myself repeating that mantra often with my children and hope that they grow up understanding that they can't just stomp their feet and pout to get what they want, which appears to be the case with so many young adults and teens these days. I love the internet, but it's really screwed up an entire generation – they can video themselves, take pictures of themselves, post to the internet and get "insta-fame, insta-friends, insta-gratification." Buying a prada handbag on e-bay is only a click a way! Hell, you don't even have to make the effort to actually GO to the store to pick out a wedding gift in person. Just buy it online – no handwritten card wishing the couple a nice life, just a print out receipt. Everything is made these days to make our lives more convenient – so convenient in fact that all personalized attention is gone, it's all about me… me…. me….
Can you imagine the day these self-absorbed twits go into apply for a job out of college? what do you think they'll do when they aren't offered a 6 figure salary right off the bat? That's what I hate about all this self-esteem crap – If you never tell them they've screwed up, or that they are actually WRONG, how will they learn life's important lessons?
Example: I was correcting my daughter's math homework yesterday. She had a few problems wrong. She said, "but it's close." I told her that in math if it's not right, it's not right – you don't get points for "almost." Same with spelling. It's either RIGHT or WRONG. There is no in between. By not pointing this out, I would be doing my child a great disservice. I'm sorry if it hurt her feelings, but tough.
I'm ranting.
pullingmyhairout on February 27, 2007 at 2:37 PM
"We need to stop endlessly repeating 'You're special'
What the heck is Stuart Smalley going to do? Run for Congress?
PinkyBigglesworth on February 27, 2007 at 2:40 PM
f you keep telling your child over and over again that they cannot fail, it makes sense that the end result will be an adult that things they can succeed at anything. We all need our Kobayashi Maru
BohicaTwentyTwo on February 27, 2007 at 2:20 PM
What's wrong with thinking you can't fail? Isn't it the "can do" attitude that makes this country so great? I think more accurately is telling them that if they do fail, they should fix what went wrong and try again until they get it right.
pullingmyhairout on February 27, 2007 at 2:40 PM
Slublog: I believe it's early 80s to late 90s. So the older ones would be in college and grad school.
I try not to go down the "when I was a kid" trail too often, though it is tempting. Mainly because it's a telltale sign of getting old!
honora on February 27, 2007 at 2:43 PM
Oy, what are the Olberkinder to do?
Entelechy on February 27, 2007 at 2:47 PM
Certainly, we were all narcissistic as college kids. I think the difference was that we were narcissistic in an introverted way. Today, kids are narcissistic in an extroverted way.
For example, there were always kids who thought they were smarter than the experienced adults. The difference is that now there are kids who openly defy the experienced adults and demand things be done their way because, well, because it's their way. I'm just astonished at the kids who come to work, have been to a class on a subject, and think they know more than somebody who has been working in the field for years. Now, lots of kids always thought that, but none of us said it out loud as they do now.
I blame it on this original concept by Rousseau of the "noble savage" who is better because he is uncontaminated by society. Then they are trained that everything they do is good in Montessori schools. Then they all get soccer trophies for just being on the team. When they should be learning good manners, they learn a bad attitude is better. Then they enter the workplace as feral employees who occassionally show up late.
I see America as plagued by kids who have far more self-esteem than competence. For them, I believe the only cure is repeated battering by the two-by-four of experience.
meaning volunteering at much higher rates than the previous generations.
Would seem to contradict this study though.
honora on February 27, 2007 at 2:17 PM
Hard to know, because now the schools have institutionalised "volunteering" and "community service" as transcript polishing for colleges. With the dumbing down of the SATs – colleges have to look at other things to determine ability, and whether one volunteers or not counts. So, schools bus kids around here and there for a few hours at this or that, every now and then. It's not like holding down a regular position, and developing skills that can be used later. The old days, many volunteer positions were as challenging, even more so than quite a number of paid positions. It's pretty shallow – disappointingly so.
naliaka on February 27, 2007 at 2:51 PM
pullingmyhairout: "What's wrong with thinking you can't fail?"
Because it makes it harder to talk them back in off the ledge of the skyscraper.
I have to agree with the editorial that Paul Greenburg wrote a few weeks ago.
He basically said that a lot of the problems we are having today stem from focusing on self-esteem rather than self-respect.
He defined self-esteem to be the mindset of "You are awesome! You are number one! You are unique and great and wonderful!" that is currently being pushed in schools (and really, all across the country).
He defined self-respect as the mindset where a person is taught to respect who they are an their abilities. When they do something well, they feel proud about it. When they fail at something, they learn to try harder next time as opposed to still getting the same gold star that everyone else got whether they got an A+ or an F. He said that unlike self-respect stems from self-discipline and the real achievements that it leads to.
Anyhow, I found it to be quite an interesting read.
Here's the link:
JadeNYU on February 27, 2007 at 3:02 PM
Let's try this again….
JadeNYU on February 27, 2007 at 3:03 PM
I believe that children are the future….
All together now!
ronsfi on February 27, 2007 at 3:06 PM
Those Born 1920-1979 TO ALL THE KIDS WHO SURVIVED the 1930's, 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's!
First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they were pregnant.
They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a can, and didn't get tested for diabetes.
Then after that trauma, we were put to sleep on our tummies in baby cribs covered with bright colored lead-based paints.
We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we took hitchhiking.
As infants & children, we would ride in cars with no car seats, booster seats, seat belts or air bags.
Riding in the back of a pick up on a warm day was always a special treat.
We drank water from the garden hose and NOT from a bottle.
We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE actually died from this.
We ate cupcakes, white bread and real butter and drank Kool-aid made with sugar, but we weren't overweight because, WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING!
We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on.
No one was able to reach us all day. And we were O.K.
We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then ride down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem.
We did not have Playstations, Nintendo's, X-boxes, no video games at all, no 150 channels on cable, no video movies or DVD's, no surround-sound or CD's, no cell phones, no personal computers, no Internet or chat rooms…….
WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them!
We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no lawsuits from these accidents.
We ate worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us forever.
We were given BB guns for our 10th birthdays, made up games with sticks and tennis balls and, although we were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes.
We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just walked in and talked to them!
Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team Those who didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that!!
The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of. They actually sided with the law!
These generations have produced some of the best risk-takers, problem solvers and inventors ever! The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas.
We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned HOW TO DEAL WITH IT ALL!
If YOU are one of them CONGRATULATIONS!
Ahhhh, the good old days…………
PinkyBigglesworth on February 27, 2007 at 3:22 PM
Slublog: I believe it's early 80s to late 90s. So the older ones would be in college and grad school.
Yikes. I hate it when people now in college were born in years I remember.
I try not to go down the "when I was a kid" trail too often, though it is tempting. Mainly because it's a telltale sign of getting old!
It's inevitable. I embrace it – my friends say I'm the youngest codger they know.
What's wrong with thinking you can't fail? Isn't it the "can do" attitude that makes this country so great? I think more accurately is telling them that if they do fail, they should fix what went wrong and try again until they get it right.
pullingmyhairout on February 27, 2007 at 2:40 PM
There is a lot of difference between narcissistic foolish and the heart and character it takes to achieve great things.
Narcissistic foolish comes from others telling you, you're great.
Heart and character comes from experience and confidence earned from 'knowledge of achievement'.
Please don't waste your money traveling to Nepal, climbing a mountain and asking a guru the meaning of life (if you like send me the money instead).
The meaning of life is (drum roll) Struggle.
Where and how is our choice.
Pinky, that was perfect :)
Wyrd on February 27, 2007 at 3:37 PM
This study done ostensibly by a member of the Baby Boom generation. Pot, meet kettle.
spmat on February 27, 2007 at 4:04 PM
Hey, I teach high school–this surprises me not at all. I'd like to hope that they improve by the time they graduate from college, but whoowhee…they are arrogant little monsters when they leave my classroom.
Some of them. The better parented ones are a pleasure to teach.
Bob's Kid on February 27, 2007 at 4:09 PM
I think more accurately is telling them that if they do fail, they should fix what went wrong and try again until they get it right.
I hear ya, but there's a major difference between what you are saying and what is happening. Kids today aren't told not to accept failure, they are being told that there's no such thing as failure. In the childs world of today, there are no losers and there are no failures. Parents and educators hide the harsh reality that in the real world, sometimes you lose and sometimes you do not succeed. A world of no failures and no losers isn't America, it's frigging socialism.
BohicaTwentyTwo on February 27, 2007 at 4:21 PM
"The jerky boyfriend was shown in public for what he is…"
Yep. He got a public castration, alright.
She got the better of the argument, IMHO.
georgej on February 27, 2007 at 4:53 PM
Tantor wrote: "Certainly, we were all narcissistic as college kids. I think the difference was that we were narcissistic in an introverted way. Today, kids are narcissistic in an extroverted way."
A narcissistic college kid?
You betcha!
To misquote Mark Twain, when I was 18, I thought my father was pretty dumb. When I graduated college, and had to get a job and start paying my own bills, I was supprised how much the old man had learned in 4 years.
(And I was man of the year, too! ;^)
georgej on February 27, 2007 at 5:00 PM
The language here is oh so blue, so please observe your official strong content warning.
AP, from 22 years in the Navy, this disclaimer was questionable. Do you think that next time you might warn us that we will have to listen to a Dixe Twits song!!!
TugboatPhil on February 27, 2007 at 5:12 PM
Personally, I think that the Baby Boomers are just pissed that there's a generation with more charisma and self confidence than them…
damn know-it-all teenagers with their internet and weblogs…
WoodStock vs. the Ipod/MP3 Player?
AKA: listening to music in a muddy field surrounded by drugged out hippies for the first and last time? or listening to all the music ever recorded whenever you want wherever you want?
pfft. no contest.
I'm the Internet Generation (AKA "Generation Y" or "The Millennials")
So stoners & Hippies from the Baby Boomers, and Yuppies/MTVers from GEN-X can go do whatever it is people do when their time is past.
It's time for us to fix the screwups of our predecessors.
Jones Zemkophill on February 27, 2007 at 7:09 PM
So stoners & Hippies from the Baby Boomers, and Yuppies/MTVers from GEN-X can go do whatever it is people do when their time is past.
Wait a minute…members of generation X are considered old now?
Darn youngsters…
About the current state of narcissism in college students. As a recent graduate (last spring), I admit that my peers are and I am, at times, rather self-centered. The thing is, my education didn't come with much of that self-esteem crud. The worst thing I can remember is the "most improved student" award at school. If you, like me, got all A's, you got the look of satisfaction from your parent and possibly a 5% discount on a Papa John's pizza. If you flunked miserably during the first term and barely scraped by in the next, you got a boombox, television, mountain bike, or other absurd gift. That does not encourage success as much as they'd like to believe.
I have also read that the narcissitic turn in culture can explain why more and more people have personal blogs, whether or not they live interesting lives.
It's almost impossible now for an American student to be able to transfer into a foreign school system, but foreign students find it easy to handle American schools. American kids' educational skills are so low, at every grade, they can't handle the foreign levels of work.
I disagree with this point, because I am one of the American students who has successfully done this. (I just realized that this response might strike some as narcissistic…sigh.) I did it at a Japanese private university in Tokyo called Waseda. Many of my friends have done the same at schools all over the world. Foreign language education can go a big way towards competence in a study abroad program. Don't write off American students as a whole. The good seeds are out there, I promise. Just make sure they have their heads screwed on right before they get to college, and encourage them at every turn. (But do so without relying on boomboxes, etc.)
Why is that cameraman filming their bewbies? They aren't even that impressive?
Anyways, yes my students are more Narcissistic than ever. I'm amazed that they think that they will be millionaires after high school.
The saddest one was the girl (she was fat none the less) whose parents told her she could get a "record contract" when she turned 18 and she seriously thought she was the next big thing. Every time I teach her (I'm a sub), I dread her. She never does her work and is failing most her classes.
Tim Burton on February 27, 2007 at 10:21 PM
I belive everyone needs a good self image but it also takes work, You need to read and not stop reading after high school. You need to respect other people and be responsible for your own actions. Kids nowdays are much like we were when we were kids ,however they think they are owed everything and thier parents and most of the way schools have dumbed down the students enmass you can see why they are not the bright light that they might think they are. Hard work, respect, disipline and a good mentor will get them where they want to go. Same as when we were kids, it does not change except for the technology that makes it excellerate. You either keep up or let an illegal fly by you with all the benifits and you can cry about it all you want but most students from other coutries are going farther and faster then most of the students here in this country. Ya think it might have something to do with morals,ideals, sense of respect for your fellow man? I wonder and keep uplifting whenever I can but I am not afraid to put someone in thier place also.
bones47 on February 27, 2007 at 10:38 PM
This is nothing that a swift kick in the pants won't fix.
My children don't dare challenge my authority, just as I don't challenge my father or him his.
You may not like your dad, but if you're in my house you'd better respect him.
Let me clarify for those of you who believe parenting involves a whole lot of thinking and theory:
Without struggle there is no value. The major role of a parent is to provide measured struggle while ensuring absolute security. Somehow we lost sight of the fact that struggle is necessary. We began to worry more about what harm we would do to our children when we should have been worrying about what harm life would do to them if they left home unprepared.
Narcissism is a problem, however this is an example of the term's over-use. I'm no PhD, but am pretty sure clinical NPD is in actuality an inward gross lack of self-esteem. The narcissist overcompensates by not only exaggerating their own position but often reducing the position of those around them. The disorder has been co-opted to describe self-centeredness and self-importance, without the associated esteem inversion present in the disorder.
Next week on psychology with Buck – "Splitting" and "Transference".
Buck Turgidson on February 28, 2007 at 1:17 PM


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