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Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by PRlady, Aug 10, 2012.
wait, it's only in large or extra large? not fair
You skinny little girls bought up all the ones in your sizes. And I'm hoping the large fits, often I'm a medium, but in Tahari jackets I need a 12 to accomodate the chest.
I love zippers and invisible hooks-and-eyes on jackets. With buttons, too frequently there's the dreaded gap around the boobs.
Oh, and yes, it's on its way to me! got the email this morning.
Yay! Where is it coming from? I have to go to the mall today (for daughter's boyfriend's birthday gift). I was going to check out Saks, to see if they had the jacket and report back, if they claimed no (and it was there ). We will need to see you rockin' the jacket!
MLP, call or go to a local Saks and/or Bloomingdales (or just call the Short Hills stores, numbers are above). Ask them to do a store search for you, they may find you a smaller size. Tahari does tend to run a little small across the back (in jackets). Skirts/pants tend to run a bit fuller in the hips, small in the waist.
Do we need to take up a collection for you?
Found a dress I am coveting! I do have a few upcoming events t would be perfect for. Don't want to order it though, since I have no idea what size to order (DVF, I can range from a 0 to a 6, depending on cut and fabric). It has to be tried on. Waiting to see if it shows up in any stores, not holding my breath, however. http://www.saksfifthavenue.com/main...=4294912394+306418048+399545540&bmUID=jAEo9VT In the Maroon. Of course, for me to look like the model, in the dress, I will need butt pads!
I can see why you want that.
Classic, yet with an edge.
A dress that can be worn for years.
Love it; but I'm not tall enough to carry it,
You are, I think.
Uh, no. All I need is some more restraint.
And the reason I am now buying my SIXTH Tahari jacket is precisely because of the hourglass shape. Tahari is an Israeli and thus is intimately acquainted with the classic Jewish figure -- small-boned and quite lavish in the T&A department.
Let's see, I got one from Filene's (may it rest in peace), two from Loehmann's, and the other three on half-priced sale. This alleviates my guilt.
Cruisin, you would look spectacular in that dress.
That DvF dress is lovely, crusin. It's really me actually, but I'd get it in obsidian. Hope you figure out your size and enjoy it in maroon!
As far as Tahari goes, I don't conform to the classic Jewish figure stereotype in the T department. I have lots of Tahari, dresses and coats, all had to be altered. No jackets. Yet.
Let us know how you like that "Chanel" jacket! It's really cool, PRChic!
I am short and would be fine wearing that dress but would have to hem it to just above the knee. I can't carry that length either.
Sorry for the double post: currently I am looking for a sleeveless white blouse, fitted, with a little stretch and fairly classic, although I don't mind a little ruching or another on trend detail. To be worn to work with jackets and pencil skirts/fitted pants or with a pair of jeans.
Like that?
Thanks, it could work but they are out of my size. Something like this would be nice but what the hell is up with all these sizes and price for a cotton shirt? http://www.rebeccaanddrew.com/store/shop/item.asp?itemid=878&source=shopstyle
That's a specialty store for women with the problem you said you didn't have upthread. You don't need to spend the money for that.
And Banana often has in stores what it doesn't have online, and I know for sure there's one in Union Square.
LOL, as soon as I read IA's description of what she was looking for, I immediately thought, "Banana Republic." (Probably because years ago I had the perfect sleeveless white shirt from BR. )
Thanks, I like the idea of silk. I do have to pick up a pair of pants that were altered at Nordstrom, may be I will stop by BR.
He used to cut less curvy, years ago. But, I don't come in at the waist and don't go out at the hips. So, what fits my waist is too big in the hips and what fits my hips, I can't close at the waist. I can wear Elie Tahari tops, jackets, and dresses. But not pants or skirts.
Thanks! I tried it on in a print, today http://www1.bloomingdales.com/shop/...y?ID=631499&PseudoCat=se-xx-xx-xx.esn_results , for size. And it fits really well. I don't love the print though, it takes away from the detail in the ruching. And it's not as classic. I think I will wind up ordering it, now that I know what size to get.
I am going to go for the obsidian. obsidian, to me, is black (as in the igneous rock with the same name ). The dress, in obsidian looked more eggplant colored, on line. So, I called DVF and asked them what color the obsidian actually is. It is eggplant, which I do like better than the maroon. I just didn't want another black dress. So, obsidian it is!
Yes, we want photos!
It's not quite as long as it appears. It came to about 1" below my knee. What I really like about it, is that it makes me look like I have some curves (namely a butt! )
These are a little pricey, but Theory makes really nice shirts:
http://www.neimanmarcus.com/p/Theor...ements%3D&eItemId=prod149280115&cmCat=product http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/theory-...tegoryid=0&fashionColor=WHITE&resultback=1043
Way too pricey for a shirt!
How about http://www.anntaylor.com/ann/produc...tPageType=fullPriceProducts&defaultColor=9129
or http://www.anntaylor.com/ann/produc...tPageType=fullPriceProducts&defaultColor=9000
Yeah, there was a Theory sleeveless shirt, that was on sale. Really nice, but I can't find it now . The reason I went to Theory was because IceAlisa said fitted with some stretch. But, they are crazy expensive for a sleeveless shirt, have to find them on sale. Your selections are great.
I like all of PRlady's options.
Thanks, PRLady. I like the first choice with the lace insets. I might get it.
Do you have them on speed dial?
For fitted shirts with a little stretch, I kid you not - Express. Some of their shirts are near dupes for Theory, at a small fraction of the price.
Why not Express? After all it's only cotton with some stretchy fabric. Thanks, will check it out, BB.
No, but I do have DVF bookmarked.
I am sure that Express shirts are great, but I refuse to go into the store. I had a really awful experience there several years ago. I got hurt pretty badly with a theft sensor pin, that had pierced the inside. I got a really bad gash on my leg. The sales person and the store manager totally blew me off and were beyond rude. I wasn't even making a big deal about my leg bleeding all over the place. I just thought they should remove the sensor before someone else got hurt. It was so unpleasant that I called Express to complain, they were just as rude. So, I vowed never to give them a penny, ever again. I know it seems silly, but, I just can't go there.
cruisin - I'd boycott them, too, if I had that experience. Even without such an incident, though, their customer service is lousy. It was better when they were part of Limited.
Neiman got the Obsidian dress, in the store. I went, today, to try it on. I don't know what they did with this dress! DVF is always very good with showing the dress exactly as it is. But this one . It is about 6" shorter than the photo suggests. The sleeves are an inch above my wrists. The fabric is soooooo thin that it shows hair follicles . It is extremely tight in the waist and hips (and being hipless, nothing is too tight on my hips!), and way too big in the shoulders. Just fit horribly! Even the saleswoman was . However, the printed one looked incredible on and fit like the photo showed. Go figure. So, I got the print one at Bloomingdales - 15% off and used my Bloomies points. So, the $425 dress cost me $110. I'd say that was a win/win deal!
I'm sorry that the "Obsidian" DVF disappointed; but, I'm happy that the other one worked for you.
A great deal, as well!
One never knows who/where the dresses are actually sewn.
That may explain the fit issues with the one you thought would be "perfect".
Thing is DVF is usually pretty consistent with fit. The sizing is not always the same, sometimes I need a 2, sometimes I need a 6. But the proportion is usually spot on. But, this dress is just completely off from what they are showing. The odd thing is that the print one, which is a cotton knit, is cut like the photo. the other strange thing is that the print one is cotton and the obisdian one is wool (both knits), but the cotton one has more body and a better hand than the wool.
You're right, though, you never know!
The obsidian one, just might work for IceAlissa. She loved it and thought it would be too long for her. It would probably be perfect for her.
Well, I'm also sad to report I think I have to take the Tahari jacket back to Saks.
It's too big in the shoulders and if I get the medium it will be too small in the boobs. Story of my life.
Also, and my bratty but accurate daughter just had to point this out, on a young woman, it's cool and chic. On me it's sort of grandmotherly, almost too ungapatz for me to get much use out of it.
And I need the money anyway.
Tell your lovely and wonderful daughter, that while she may be brilliant, on this point she is incorrect . That jacket with a pair of skinny jeans and a white tee shirt, or really dark wider legged, high waisted jeans with a solid blouse - stunning, not grannyish at all. Of course I'd wear that with 4.5" heels!
But, fit is a whole other thing. Maybe she just said that to make you feel better about not keeping it.
Sorry that the jacket didn't work out, PRlady.
There is likely a better - and cheaper - alternative; waiting for you to find it!
What's ungapatz?


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Jul 25, 2012 at 8:45 pm #1292331
I haven't seen Joe's sleeping bags (or are they quilts?) discussed much, so I thought I'd copy parts of my review here. These bags deserve the air time! (Mods, if that is illegal, please delete this.) The primary thing I want to get across is that Joe's bags make up into a near ideal side sleepers system!
For years, decades even, I've been mildly frustrated with sleeping bags that insist on putting the zipper on the side of the bag. While that's just dandy for back sleepers, we side sleepers end up with the zipper either under us (uncomfortable) of on top of us (leaking warm air). Joe lists the zipper as being on the back, under a back sleeper, but I consider it to be on the front, running from my chin through my navel. I asked Joe to put two draft tubes on mine, which do a great job of sealing the zipper from either side. I thought I might have more trouble with the zipper catching the draft tube material, but in reality, it was no worse than any other bag. Success!
The bag does not have a draft collar; instead it just cinches down with a thin bungie. The toggle for this is at the back of the neck, as I use it. This was a minor problem to tighten or loosen it, but I usually just leave it at the same level of snugness, so there wasn't any real problem. With the separate down hood (see below) there was no perceptible warm air leakage.
I've observed that while sleeping on my side, I'm usually in a semi-fetal position. This seems to eat both bag length and width, so while I am 5' 10", I choose a wide&long model, which was ideal.
The bag does not have a hood. Instead Joe offers a down hood in the same fabrics and fill as the bags. I really like this arrangement! In every hooded bag, I seem to end up with my face in the hood, breathing through the nylon and down – not good! Now the hood always turns with me, even when I rotate inside the bag (doesn't happen very often, but it's irritating when it does). Even with my large head (7 1/2), the hood slips on and off easily, though never accidentally. It has a cord to tighten it around the face, and the hood continues down to cover the neck. It made for a very cozy combination with the bag, and never rotated over my face!
Finally, while this is technically a bag (the zipper thing), it's easily unzipped to function as a quilt. Yes, the hood still works!
I have a 40* bag, and a slightly overfilled 20* bag – I think of it as a 15* bag. I've had the 40* bag out in 40* nights and slept toasty warm. It's perfect for summer hikes in the Sierra – a down sweater would take it down another 10* easily, if needed. I haven't tested the 15* bag to its limits, but I have no worries about it.
I am very happy with these bags, and expect to be using them for years to come.Jul 26, 2012 at 4:08 am #1897652
Dale WhittonBPL Member
@dwhittonLocale: Sydney
Stephen – thanks for taking the time to post your experiences on the Zpacks bags. I've got my eye on the 40deg version and have been trawling the net for user feedback, so your review is helpful. I'm also a side sleeper and have been wondering about whether to go with the wide version, but it looks like that's a good choice.
I was looking to pair it with a Black Rock Hat but I'll also check out Joe's creation.Jul 26, 2012 at 5:32 am #1897655
(My first post here at BPL… wish me luck :D …)
Stephen, that's a great review… Just made my purchase for a 20F ZPacks sleeping bag a few days ago so it's nice to hear some promising reviews :)
As a side sleeper I really hope this will be a good fit!
I guess I still have one doubt regarding my purchase and that's the temp rating issue.
I'm a young woman, decided to go for a 20F ZPacks sleeping bag although I was actually looking for a 30F bag. Now (after talking to a knowladgeable friend) I'm troubled by the slight chance I've made a mistake and as a woman should have gone with the 10F bag…
Would love to hear it if you think I've made the right choice…
Note: Joe is not making an in between temp ratings anymore…Jul 26, 2012 at 7:26 am #1897673
@Anat: Not having any experience being a woman in a sleeping bag (ahem!), I can't make any personal experience comments! But my daughter (30ish) consistently prefers a bag with about 20*F lower rating than I do. And I note that the Euro standards trend that way too.
If you've just recently ordered the bag, send Joe an email, and he'll switch it to whatever rating you prefer. How do I know that? Cuz when I ordered the 40* bag, I first ordered a 30*, then thought better of it – herein SoCal (for me) a 40* bag just makes more sense, and I've got the warmer bag already for the shoulder seasons.
And thanks for mentioning that Joe no longer does the in-betweeners – my apologies for getting anyone's hopes up. On the other hand, I'[m not sure it's really needed anymore, as Joe is offering a wider range of temp ratings now.
@dale: From what I've heard, the Black Rock hat is great. The advantage of Joe's hood is that it comes down below the neck, and seals nicely with the bag. BTW, I think it's actually made by Goose Feet.Jul 26, 2012 at 10:19 am #1897713
Stephen, hows the clamminess if any? Cuben material I believe. Thank you for the review.
DuaneJul 26, 2012 at 2:00 pm #1897770
Mike FeldmanMember
@mikefLocale: SE USA
I have the 20 degree version w/2 ounces of overfill, in long and wide, at 22.7 ounces..Using it for 9 day trip on JMT and other trails in Sept.. About to order the down bac..and while am at it a small zero pack,why not!Jul 26, 2012 at 2:21 pm #1897777
Zpacks just uses cuben (0.33oz) for the baffles, not for the shell and liner fabrics. Clamminess/moisture accumulation is a non-issue.
The 10D fabric used for the inside has a really nice feel, while being only moderately downproof. You'll definitely find the occasional feather poking thru. I can't speak to the outer fabric as my Zpacks quilt has the lighter 10D for both.
I've got a 30F quilt from Zpacks. It's basically the same as their 'bags' except there's no main zipper and I asked Joe to make the footbox openable, so there's a small zip at the foot end so I can open it right up like a blanket in hot weather. 15.4oz with 10D fabric inside and out. I'm very happy with it…it's nice and wide so it's easy to use as a quilt even for side sleepers.Jul 26, 2012 at 3:22 pm #1897792
Peter FokkingaSpectator
@nittoLocale: the Netherlands
Good to see not all of you having a Revelation :-) Given that the ZPacks is lighter for a given temperature rating, I wonder why it is not more popular? Because of its higher price? Or is it Tim's mesmerizing presence on the forum? (which, incidentally, is a factor for me; I like vendors who participate on public forums).
These two bags are my shortlist for replacing my WM Pod-15 as I no longer need a bag that warm, and would like more width so I can sleep with one leg roughly at a right angle to my body (sleeping on my side of course).
With a girth of 41" at the shoulders and hips, would 56" width (or 52") be adequate? And is the listed width the actual width when the bag is fully lofted?
How do you like the relatively narrow (30" vs 40" for the Revelation) footbox? And when you zip up the ZPacks, doesn't that feel cramped? I mean, 56" width divided by 2, minus the height; still comfortable? I think that on "regular" quilts the width is less of an issue because you have the straps and the sides don't meet like they do when zipped, am I right?
Dan, that quilt sounds really nice; I've been thinking along those lines as well. Since the weight is more than the normal bag in regular/medium I assume your quilt is larger?
I'm sure that in the end I would be happy with either bag, but it's fun to fret awhile over what would be the _best_ bag ;-)Jul 26, 2012 at 4:41 pm #1897822
Thanks Dan. If I ever move to replace my WM Caribou, I want to save a little weight and volume. Tough choice, price or weight?
DuaneJul 26, 2012 at 5:59 pm #1897844
Methinks thou frettest too much! Plus I've never taken a tape measure to bed with me!
What can I say? I pull the bag up, roll on to my side, my knees come up, and I fall asleep! Hours later, I half wake up, roll onto my other side, and fall asleep again, until my bladder insists that I go for a walk. Then I do it all over again. Feet, knees, legs, arms, back, etc – all happy and snoring (for all I know, though they never wake me up!).
Oh, and no clamminess!Jul 26, 2012 at 6:04 pm #1897846
Michael CheifetzBPL Member
@mike_hefetzLocale: Israel
so if i get what you are saying u use it as a hoodless bag with a center zip – essentially like that line of Stoic bags or Marmot plasma or Nauntak alpinist but you have cut off the hood…..how does that help?
Why cant you roll with the hood on the center zipped bags?
@anat – nice seeing you here :)Jul 26, 2012 at 8:01 pm #1897877
"Why cant you roll with the hood on the center zipped bags?"
Probably because my rolling program is missing a few lines, and I never seem to roll exactly evenly, thereby planting my snout in the down stuffed attached hood of my Marmot Plasma, resulting in a soggy hood. Thus the beauty (for a rolling-handicapped old man like me) of a separate hood, which always aligns with my face.
I tried to get a handicapped parking hang-tag for my truck based on my rolling handicap, but they wouldn't buy it….Jul 26, 2012 at 10:01 pm #1897892
Dan…Since the weight is more than the normal bag in regular/medium I assume your quilt is larger?
Yes. It's the 'long' variant of their 30F bag. Regular width. At 5'11, I'm already slightly long for their 'medium' length bag, and Joe said that you lose a couple inches opting for a cinch closure on the foot end instead of the regular footbox. The 'long' bag is a good length for me – it's not long enough to pull it over my head, but long enough to get snugged around my chin.
A regular Zpacks 30F long bag is claimed at 15.5oz. I thought I would save a bit of weight by opting for a 10D outer shell and ditching the main zipper, but I guess adding the footbox zipper, small draft tube and cinchcord to open/close the footbox added that weight back so mine is just 0.1oz lighter at 15.4oz. The cuben dry sacks they include with the sleeping bags are awesome.
I wouldn't suggest opting for the 10D outer shell. It's a nice fabric that feels great on the skin, but it's only moderately downproof and its far from being windproof and water-repellant, so it's a good choice for the inner fabric but not the best shell material. Zpacks regular Pertex fabrics is the better choice.
With a girth of 41" at the shoulders and hips, would 56" width (or 52") be adequate? And is the listed width the actual width when the bag is fully lofted?
The width of the regular (56") Zpacks bags is very good. The 56" is a generous fit around my 170 lbs (42" chest, 32" waist) frame and the best part is that it stays wide through the hips – which is where some bags that taper run into trouble. Watch out for bags that taper a lot and are narrower at the waist. I see no reason to go with the wide (62") bag unless you're a big dude (ie. + 200lbs) because the regular width is quite generous already. I haven't actually measured it.
How do you like the relatively narrow (30" vs 40" for the Revelation) footbox?
My previous quilt had a 40" footbox, so I can speak to this fairly well. For regular use as a quilt I prefer the 30" footbox over the 40" one. It's a cozy fit without being tight and there's no extra air to heat up. Then again, I have small (sz 9) feet. Having a wider footbox isn't really a problem, but the 30" footbox works great IMO, so it's a good spot to save weight.
However, if you're getting a quilt like mine that can unzip to open up the footbox and turn the quilt into a blanket, then the wider footbox is nice. A quilt with a 40" wide foot end is fairly easy to keep positioned over your feet, while it's not difficult for a foot to escape out from under a 30" wide end. Thankfully I only prefer to use my quilts like this when it's quite warm (ie. +50F nights) so I don't mind get a little foot ventilation.
I'm quite happy with a 56"/56"/30" (shoulders/hips/feet) shape for a three season quilt. I was using a 52/52/40 prior to this, and that was better in the summer as a blanket, but a bit more challenging to stay wrapped up in during the shoulder seasons. I think 56/56/30 is great for an averaged sized dude using quilt mode. If I was getting the 40F rated quilt with the intention of mostly using it in the summer, then a bit more width in the footbox would be nice so I could better unzip the footbox and form a nice blanket around 40-45" wide at the foot end. Conversely, for deep winter use I'd take a toasty 10F sleeping bag. Ideally I'd have all 3, but I can push my quilt to 20F with my down parka and down pants inside.Jul 27, 2012 at 12:04 am #1897903
Peter FokkingaSpectator
@nittoLocale: the Netherlands
Thank you Dan for the thorough reply! Seems I'll be sleeping under a ZPacks (medium/regular/30*) on my next trip :-)Jul 27, 2012 at 12:20 am #1897904
Lots of information. Thanks!
Did you take any pictures of your bag? I would really love to see what joe did with the footbox area… (when I ordered my bag I actually wanted to ask for the same thing but gave up on it cuz I thought it maybe too much to ask for).
Thought I'll see you here sooner or later. Nice seeing you!Jul 27, 2012 at 2:49 am #1897915
jason quickMember
@jaseLocale: A tent in my backyard - Melbourne
This thread is quite coincidental…in a good way.
@ Dan
I have just been in conversations with Joe at ZPacks, asking about a footbox that can open up as a quilt. He mentioned to me that I should opt for the longer bag also if I chose this option. I was also looking at a full length zipper too, so… with the opening foot box I get a fully opened quilt. I am yet to decide…I moved away from this idea, but I seem to be reverting back to this because I just know, that on a balmy Aussie night… after a full day's kayaking or hiking….I may just appreciate a completely open down quilt. Please Dan, tell me it's a good idea!! lol.
My only concern is the bag circumference. I too have a 42" chest, with a shoulder circumference up near 50-51". I am cautious about only considering chest circumference, which seems to become somewhat immaterial (IMHO) for my bag size decision. When thinking of sleeping circumferences, I have to look at my shoulder girth, or even more importantly, my elbow girth when lying down.
I too am a restless sleeper, and often find myself lying on my side with my arms crossed. I measured my elbow circumference with my arms crossed, and it comes to 56". So, if I add a layer of clothing to that when it gets cold, am I going to be running out of room?
Although Dan, your sizing is very similar to me (except height, I'm a short a** at 5'8"…5'9" on a sunny day :-)
Either way, I'm ordering one of these bags within the next few days, cause quite simply they appear ace.
Jase in AustraliaJul 27, 2012 at 3:08 am #1897917
Absolutely coincidental…
I think I will also ask for the same modifications – openable footbox with an all the way zip + enlarged footbox (35" instead of 30").
Sounds like a dream bag in my opinion…Jul 27, 2012 at 8:05 am #1897954
Stephen, thank you for getting this thread started, thank you to all the rest for their contributions. I really like the weight of ZPack gear, just need to spring for one or more items now. Good to read info finally as not much gets posted, maybe the gear is too new and not many users yet.
DuaneJul 27, 2012 at 6:34 pm #1898096
"Did you take any pictures of your bag?"
No. I don't have any handy. The footbox uses elastic shockcord to cinch at the foot end (which actually works better than non-elastic cord). Then there's about 2 feet of a #3 zipper and a draft tube inside the quilt along the zipper that actually pokes out the end of the quilt when you cinch the foot end shut, so this draft tube totally eliminates any small hole from being present at the end which is great.
"I have just been in conversations with Joe at ZPacks, asking about a footbox that can open up as a quilt……Please Dan, tell me it's a good idea!!"
As I sort of discussed previously, the 30" wide foot end of the Zpacks quilts/bags is pretty narrow when you open the footbox up to form a blanket. Since it's tough to keep your feet un-contacted by any drafts when the quilt is opened up, you can really only use this mode on hot summer nights. I don't regret adding this functionality to my quilt, but I use my quilt almost year round (with other warm layers) so there's only a small portion of the time when I actually would use it this way. In my case, I might have been better served with an ounce of weight savings rather than the option to open it into a blanket 5% of the time on +50F nights.
If the footbox was wider (ie. 40") then you could use it closer to its temp. rating in 'blanket' mode, but now you're adding even more weight to bolster this functionality. If you often camp where it's hot then this is a good feature. I think it makes a bit more sense to do this with a 40F quilt, as the circumstances in which the blanket mode is an appealing option will be a larger portion of the time. With a 20F or 30F bag/quilt, the weight added might not be worth it given you'll be carrying the weight for 3 seasons but only using it for 1.
"My only concern is the bag circumference."
I'll sum it up this way: If you wear a medium or large t-shirt size, then the regular girth is generous and you'll be able to layer puffy layers inside with likely no trouble. I would be swimming in the wide girth. If you wear an XL or larger t-shirt, then the regular girth would work if you wear minimal layers, but I'd upsize to the wide girth if you want the have the option of tossing on some really puffy layers in the night. Of all the quilts I've had (GoLite, Virga Outdoors, Zpacks) this is easily the widest. Keep in mind Zpacks uses this girth for their enclosed bags, so as a quilt it's quite wide.Jul 27, 2012 at 7:21 pm #1898105
Tom KirchnerBPL Member
@ouzelLocale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Do the baffles extend all the way to the zipper? Or do they terminate along the sides of the bag, a la the WM Pod?Jul 28, 2012 at 8:28 am #1898172
I can't tell about any internal details, but from the outside they give every appearance of continuing all the way to eh zipper.Jul 28, 2012 at 2:40 pm #1898258
Tom KirchnerBPL Member
@ouzelLocale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
"from the outside they give every appearance of continuing all the way to eh zipper."
Thanks, Steve.Jul 30, 2012 at 4:18 am #1898497
jason quickMember
@jaseLocale: A tent in my backyard - Melbourne
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Well, I placed my order today for a ZPacks 30F wide and long sleeping bag…with mods.
Joe was more than happy to accommodate my modifications – I ordered a 30F long and wide bag, and having it trimmed down to 59" shoulders, 56" hips and keeping the 35" footbox. The default wide (62") would have me swimming, while the standard 56" is simply too narrow…I modified one of my existing bags as a test and it was just too risky (tight).
I also ordered the full length zipper with draft tube (I am a very restless sleeper) and drawcord footbox with draft tube. Long bag purchased to compensate for some length lost due to footbox. So now it will also serve as an open blanket for warmer Aussie nights (50-70F)…at least until I buy a warmer bag….Perhaps a 40F bag….or knowing how hot it gets here on some nights, perhaps just a Cuben Fibre or Tyvek sheet! :-)
How exciting. Joe's great to buy from.
Keep you posted once it arrives. I also purchased an Arc Blast with some add-on's too…hey…it's my birthday. Not too many write-ups of these yet either so I look forward to posting my feedback on that too.
JaseJul 30, 2012 at 12:46 pm #1898609
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Been thinking about one of these since winter…a 20 deg with draft collar and made so the zipper is on top rather than the bottom.
At any rate, can someone explain the differences between the foot-box in one of these Zpacks compared to other bags? In looking at profile pics of the Zpacks bag, it looks flat from top to bottom whereas on my WM Summerlite, for instance, the foot-box contours up as if ergonomically built. Is there a difference in feel? Warmth?
EDIT: Also, Dan, how much weight did you save by having 10D inside and out?Jul 30, 2012 at 4:17 pm #1898645
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Hey guys,
I did a quick and dirty YouTube video on this one that may show some detail to those of you considering the bag. It has been used about 60 nights so far with good success.
All the best,
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Several hundred incoming CU-Boulder students tried their hand helping others during "Day of Service" on Saturday, Aug. 24.
Day of Service is an opportunity for first-year students to get out into the community they are entering and experience its needs and culture beyond the borders of the CU campus, according to Jen Ross, director of the Volunteer Resource Center at CU-Boulder, which spearheads the service event.
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text: Retrospective moves onto the 1987 World Championships The key facts in relation to these championships are:- After finishing 2nd at the 1984 Olympics and in 3 successive world championships between 1984-86, Brian Orser finally wins a world title. In doing so, he became the first skater to land 2 triple axels in the same free program, and 3 overall in one competition. This set up the contest that would become known as "the battle of the Brians" at the 1988 Olympics, which Boitano won. Boitano also regained his World title at the 1988 World Championships. Hence, the 1987 World title would be Orser's only one. Katarina Witt regains the World title she lost to Debi Thomas the year before. It was Witt's third World title, having won it in 1984 and 1985. Nevertheless, at these championships, a poor 5th placed finish in the compulsories by Witt, had meant that Thomas only needed to finish 2nd in the short and long programs to retain her World title. However, a disastrous 7th place finish in the short program by Thomas, meant that a win in the free skate would give Witt the title. Katarina then produced the best long program performance of her life, landing 5 triples, to win both the free skate and the World title. Debi Thomas had actually been beaten by Jill Trenary at U.S.Nationals a few weeks prior to the 1987 World Championships. Trenary finished 7th at these championships and would go on to win the 1990 World title. Her compatriot, Caryn Kadavy, won the Bronze, which would ultimately be her only medal at a World or Olympics competition. Kadavy had to pull out of the 1988 Olympic FS due to illness, and she retired at the end of the 1987/88 season. Many tried to persuade Kadavy not to retire when she did, as she would have almost certainly challenged Ito and Trenary for the World title during the next quadrennium. Instead, she went on to have a very distinguished professional career. Gordeeva & Grinkov retain their World title, which they had won for the first time the year before. In winning the title, they landed a quadruple twist lift. Although, the quadruple twist life had first been performed by Marina Cherkasova and Sergei Shakrai in the late 1970's, G&G remain one of the few pairs to have successfully executed it, which they did with ease in these championships. However, going into the World Championships, G&G had actually been disqualified at the European Championships for failing to stop during their LP after the referee had blown his whistle and stopped their music (G&G thought the cassette playing their music had simply broken and had not heard the whistle. Hence, they did not stop). The referee had done that as a strap holding down Grinkov's pant leg had come undone and there was a fear that it could trip them up and cause serious injury. Bestemianova & Bukin win the World title for the 3rd consecutive time. Their free dance, Cabaret, marked a change of direction for them, as summed by this article which says: In 1987 the duo went in a completely different direction with a comedic routine to music from "Cabaret." Bestemianova recalled it was a fun year and gave them a different perspective. "It made training a lot easier especially leading up to the 1988 Games," she said. Here are the videos for the medal winning performances:- MEN'S Gold: Brian Orser (Canada) Short Program, Free Skate, Exhibition, Medal Ceremony, Profile Silver: Brian Boitano (USA) Free Skate Bronze: Alexander Fadeev (USSR) Free Skate, Exhibition 4th: Vladimir Kotin (USSR) Exhibition 6th: Viktor Petrenko (USSR) Short Program 7th: Christopher Bowman (USA) Short Program, Free Skate LADIES Gold: Katarina Witt (East Germany) Short Program, Free Skate, Exhibition, Medal Ceremony Silver: Debi Thomas (USA) Short Program, Free Skate, Exhibition Bronze: Caryn Kadavy (USA) Short Program, Free Skate 4th: Elizabeth Manley (Canada) Short Program, Free Skate 5th: Kira Ivanova (USSR) Free Skate 6th: Claudia Leistner (West Germany) Free Skate 7th: Jill Trenary (USA) Short Program, Free Skate, Profile 8th: Midori Ito (Japan) Short Program, Free Skate 9th: Anna Kondrashova (USSR) Free Skate 10th: Joanne Conway (Great Britain) Free Skate PAIRS Gold: Ekaterina Gordeeva & Sergei Grinkov (USSR) Short Program, Long Program Silver: Elena Valova & Oleg Vasiliev (USSR) Long Program Bronze: Jill Watson & Peter Oppegard (USA) Short Program, Long Program ICE DANCE Gold: Natalia Bestemianova & Andrei Bukin (USSR) Free Dance Silver: Marina Klimova & Sergei Ponomarenko (USSR) Original Set Pattern, Free Dance, Exhibition Bronze: Tracy Wilson & Robert McCall (Canada) Free Dance 4th: Natalia Annenko & Genrikh Sretenski (USSR) Free Dance 5th: Suzanne Semanick & Scott Gregory (USA) Free Dance


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Learn how to hang pictures, heavy mirrors, keyhole shelves and quilts so that they're always straight, level and rock solid, no matter where you put them.
Project a level line and tape exact-size paper patterns on the wall. Mark the top center of each pattern with the corner of a sticky note.
Stretch the hanger wire with two fingers spaced equally distant from the edges of the picture frame. Keep the wire parallel to the top of the frame. Measure the distance between your fingertips.
Leave one finger in place and measure from the wire to the top. Use this dimension and the dimension from Photo 2 to position the picture hangers.
Find the hanger positions by measuring down from the sticky note and to each side from center. Keep the hangers level.
Align the bottom edge of a picture hook with the mark and drive a nail through the hook's guide.
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Slip the wire over both hooks. Slide the picture sideways across the wires until it's level. Use the same process to hang the remaining pictures.
The first challenge in hanging a picture is deciding exactly where you want it. It's not so hard with just one picture. You can ask a helper to hold it up while you stand back and judge the position.
Most experts recommend hanging a picture with its center about 60 in. from the floor, or bottom edge 6 to 8 in. above a piece of furniture. Use these heights as a starting point. Then adjust the position of the picture to your liking, and mark the top center with the corner of a sticky note. Use the technique shown in Photos 2 - 6 to complete the job.
A group of pictures is trickier. First cut out paper patterns and arrange them on the wall with low-adhesive masking tape. The temporary red line from a laser level is helpful for aligning a series of photos level with one another (Photo 1). The laser level is ideal because you get a perfectly straight line without having to mark up the walls. A standard carpenter's level will also work.
When you arrive at a grouping that's pleasing, mark the top center of each pattern with the corner of a sticky note (Photo 1). You'll use the bottom corner of each sticky note as a reference point for locating the picture hangers.
Now you're ready to position the picture hangers (Photos 2 - 4). Use two hangers for each picture for extra support and to help keep the picture from tipping. Choose picture hangers that are rated to support the weight of your art. We recommend professional hangers like the one shown in Photo 5. They work fine in drywall. These are available at home centers or from most picture-framing shops. Plaster may not support pictures as well as drywall does. To hang heavier art on plaster walls, use picture hangers with double or triple nails.
Photos 2 and 3 show how to measure the space between the hangers and the distance from the top of the picture frame. The distance between hangers isn't critical. Just space your fingers several inches from the outside edges of the picture frame. Transfer these measurements to the wall (Photo 4). An inexpensive level with inches marked along the edge is a great picture-hanging tool (Photo 4). Otherwise, just stick masking tape to the edge of a level and transfer measurements to the tape (Photo 2). Then line up the bottom of the hooks with the marks and drive the picture-hanger nails through the angled guides on the hooks (Photo 5).
Before you hang the picture, stick a pair of clear rubber bumpers on the back lower corners of the frame to protect the wall and help keep the picture level. You'll find these with the picture hanging supplies or in the cabinet hardware department (they're called "door bumpers").
Measure from the right edge of one D-ring to the right edge of the second D-ring to find the exact distance between the centers of the hanging D-rings.
Measure from the top of the D-ring to the top of the frame to determine the distance down.
Use a level and a ruler to plumb down the correct distance. Mark the spot with the corner of a sticky note. Then use the level and ruler to find the exact hanger positions.
Drive a wall anchor into the drywall at each hook location.
Screw in anchors hold better than plastic anchors in drywall.
Screw a pan head screw into the anchor. Leave the screw sticking out about 1/4 in. Hook the D-rings onto the protruding screws.
Take extra precautions when you're hanging a heavy mirror. If the mirror has a hanging wire on the back, remove it and instead screw D-rings to the frame (Photo 1). (Mirrors without frames should be hung with special mirror hangers.) Locate the D-rings an equal distance from the top of the frame, about one-third of the total height down. Then measure the exact distance between the centers of the D-rings (Photo 1). The trick is to hook your tape measure on one edge of a D-ring, and measure to the same edge of the second D-ring. Record this measurement. Then measure down to the top of the D-rings (Photo 2).
Photo 3 shows how to transfer the measurements to the wall. But first you'll have to hold the mirror up to the wall and choose the best position. Start with the center of the mirror at about 60 in. from the floor. When you like the position, mark the top center with a sticky note.
Some picture hangers are rated to support heavy mirrors, but it's stronger and safer to install hollow-wall anchors instead. We recommend the screw-in type anchor shown in Photo 4. It's rated to support 40 lbs. Weigh your mirror and choose the appropriate type of anchor. Use toggle-type anchors for heavier mirrors. Measure from your reference point to position the anchors (Photo 3). Make starter holes with an awl or Phillips screwdriver. If you hit a stud with the awl, simply drive a screw. Photo 5 shows how to hang the mirror. If the top isn't level when you're done, wrap a few turns of electrical tape around the D-ring on the low side to raise that side slightly.
Stick masking tape to the edge of your level and mark the keyhole centers on the tape.
Place the level against the wall at the desired shelf height. Adjust it to level it and mark the wall at the two keyhole locations.
Drill a hole into the drywall at each mark and slip the toggle through the hole. Push in the plastic collar tight to the drywall.
Toggle anchors are easy to use and support up to 100 lbs.
Then break off the straps flush with the collar.
Drive the included machine screw into the toggle, letting it protrude about 3/16 in. Test-fit the shelf.
Many light-duty shelves have keyholes in the back. The keyholes slide over protruding screws for support. The trick is to precisely place the screws so they align with the keyholes.
Photos 1 - 5 shows a foolproof method that doesn't require any measuring or math. Photo 2 shows a trick for transferring the keyhole locations to the wall. If the mounting screw locations don't land over studs, use wall anchors to support the shelf. We're using a slick toggle-type anchor that holds 60 to 100 lbs. and is easy to install. This brand is available at most home centers. Make sure the screw heads supplied with the anchor fit the keyhole slot before you install the anchor. Otherwise go to a smaller size anchor.
Drill holes for the anchors at each mark and mount the anchors in the wall. Let the screws protrude enough for the keyholes to slide over them. Test-fit the shelf by aligning the keyholes with the screws and sliding it down. If the shelf won't slide on or is too loose, remove the shelf and adjust the screws until you get a snug fit.
Sew the loop side of the hook-and-loop to the webbing. Then stitch the webbing to the back of the quilt using a herringbone stitch as shown.
Staple the hook side of the hook-and-loop to the wood strip. Determine the best position, and level the wood strip and screw it to the studs.
Hang the quilt by smoothing the hook-and-loop tape that's sewn on the back of the quilt along the tape stapled to the wood strip.
One good way to display a quilt is to hang it on a wall. But don't just tack it up by the corners or it'll stretch out of shape. Instead, use this method for hanging quilts or other decorative textiles because it distributes the weight evenly for smooth hanging and minimal stress to the fabric. The hand stitching (Photo 1) used in this method doesn't damage the quilt because it only goes through the backing, and it's easy to remove when you no longer wish to display the quilt.
Measure the top edge of the quilt and purchase the same lengths of 1-1/2-in.-wide sew-on hook-and-loop fastener strip and 2-1/2-in.-wide cotton or synthetic webbing. We found the hook-and-loop strip at a fabric store and the webbing at an upholsterer's shop. You'll also need a length of 1-1/2-in.-wide pine or poplar, a staple gun and several 2-1/2-in. wood screws.
Photos 1 - 3 show how to prepare and hang the quilt. If the quilt pattern allows, it's best to rotate the quilt 180 degrees every month or so. This relieves stress on the fabric and helps prevent uneven fading. To be able to rotate the quilt, you'll have to sew another strip of hook-and- loop along the opposite edge.
It's usually not hard to hang things on drywall. You can drive nails easily, and studs are simple to locate. Other types of walls present unique challenges. Plaster is harder than drywall and can crumble. But the pros we talked to say as long as you use professional picture hangers like the ones we show here (these have sharper nails and built-in angle guides), and use hangers a little larger than required, you'll usually be OK. In brick or stone, you can often drive a thin nail into the space between the mortar and the brick or stone. In brick, stone and concrete, you want to avoid making large holes because they're virtually impossible to hide if you move the picture. A good method for brick, stone or concrete walls is to drill a hole that's slightly smaller than the threaded part of a drywall screw. Use a masonry bit in a hammer drill and drill the hole at a slight downward angle. Then thread the screw into the hole, leaving about 1/4 in. sticking out for use as a hanger.
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In the heart of the capital and near the famous Latin Quarter you can walk in the Luxembourg Gardens, stroll along docks of the Seine or visit the Pantheon. You can discover the shops of old books and enjoy many plugged restaurants in the area. This is a very central location, ideal for access to the different attractions Parisien .
At the 1st floor , this apartment has a living room with a open kitchen and a bathroom . The apartment has lots of charm and the decoration is very nice. Completely refurbished .
- Fully equipped kitchen with ceramic hob , microwave , integrated fridge freezer, toaster, kettle , coffee maker as well as dishes , pots, cups and glasses .
- Bathroom with shower , WC.
- Living room with sofa, TV and a coffee table.
- An ironing board and iron are available
Towels and linens are provided as well as cleaning . An efficient heating system ensures a steady and comfortable temperature in the apartment.
WIFI Internet access and TV included. It's possible to book a private parking close the apartment.
From Roissy Charles de Gaulle and Orly airport you can reach the apartment directly with the Luxembourg station which is a five minute by foot .
The neighborhoof is also well served by buses that will allow you to move quickly in Paris .
For late arrivals , there is an extra charge of EUR 20 between 20h and 22h and after 22h EUR 40 .
A deposit of € 200 is required to cover any damage or repairs in the apartment. The deposit must be paid by credit card on arrival day with our mobile payment terminal (the sum in question is not loaded but "pre-authorized" like renting a car for example).
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A good apartment, in a very good location. The apartment is quite small but was perfect for what we wanted. The interior is a good standard with a fridge, microwave and hob and a modern bathroom. It also has an iron and hairdryer which isn't mentioned on the site.
The area has plenty of good bars and restaurants and the ones we visited were very good quality and reasonably priced especially compared to the more touristy areas.
The main Metro / RER station Chaletlet - Les Halles is less than a five minute walk away and the Metro stops on the Rue de Rivoli are also close by.
Overall very pleased and would definitely recommend a stay.
A very good location with the metro station right on the corner. Very practical when being in Paris.
Appartment was very nice and cosy and the view just as nice (fourth level/ no lift though).
Too bad you can't park in front of the building. You can only station for a little while (to leave luggage for example). Therefore, check your preference for parking (if you are with the car) beforehand.
Regards, Oana and Hans Schippers (the Netherlands)
We actually stayed in a different studio since there was a mix-up of reservations. However, the hosts were very nice and the new Studio was even bigger and nicer.
The location of the apartment is very convenient and it's easy to get around from here.
However, the overall price-performance ration is pretty bad.
It is superfically clean but every corner is very dustry, especially around the bed!!! The shower was cold or even ice cold at most times, only by the end of the week I stayed here I got some warm water!!!
And also the contact and information prior to my stay could have been a little better. I never received any feedback for my complaints!
So looking at the price for the 7 days I stayed and what I got for it I'm sure there are better places to stay at!
the apartment is placed well for visiting Paris - it is possible to walk from there to see the City - but public tranportation is also very ggod from there. Everything you need in terms of restaurant ect nin the area.
The welcoming was not very good. We waited outside to be received but no one came to see us. It was not possble to reach jeremy by phone - and his assistant was not to confident with directing us over the phone. But at the end we found the place - and it the place was good.
I had a very pleasant stay in the apartment in July 2015. A fantastic view on the busy Paris life. Being on the fourth floor is a lot of climbing of course but you get used to it. Toilet and bathroom were small but good quality, The stove might need replacement on the ling run but it did work properly. So I will certainly come back to this apartment with a supermarket across the street and restaurants around the corner as well as the metro station within 100 meters.
Very big flat for Paris, clean and nice perfect for 2 people!
The kitchen was full of what you need for cooking! Highly Recommended!
Very nice and cosy apartment located on a good location. Only 20minutes away from Gare du Nord, 2 minutes from metro stop Menilmontante and at the opposite of the street a small supermarket. Very handy! The apartment is big enough for 6 people. All necessary things you expect of renting an apartment is present and available. Will definitely recommend this apartment to others.
Excellent accommodation in the middle of Le Marais.
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The new aluminum magazine well helps allot.
That looks slick!
I think I'm in lust. nice mag well.
Looks VERY nice - the newest Vitayaz pics (9mm) indicate they use molded plastic for theirs... see the pics below.
My sheet metal magwell isn't all cleaned up and purty, but it won't look that good even when it is Now I'm embarrased to look at mine - maybe I'll have to redo it now lol
QUESTION - gas or blowback? Factory Vitayaz is blowback, but that looks gas which is why I ask.
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OH that's sweet.
What mag, PPS43?
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Great looking build, great caliber choice, and AWESOME magwell. Thank you for the drool pics!
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A very fine piece!
Thanks for sharing.
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Looking good !!!!
Have you tested function as yet ??
It is blowback and the magazine is a PPS43 magazine.
I have function tested it . YouTube - erieordnancejim's Channel
Very nice! Are you planning to market these? One thing that you may want to consider is the flare on the bottom of the magwell. I think it could be added to the existing design with little effort because it would be as wide as the top area that covers the magwell; you would just not take that off of the bottom and move the logo up a little bit. However I think it would be fine as-is!
OK, upon a closer inspection, I presume that's your purpose-built 7.62x25 bolt as well
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Many of you may or may not know but the rain (drought) situation in California is starting to look pretty bad. We currently have the lowest rainfall totals since the days of record keeping was established in the mid !800's. This following a bleak rain total last year.
The forecast for the next week is dry, dry, dry. Beautiful Winter solstice morning today which might be way better in the long run if it was pouring outside right now. There are people irrigating tree crops in December to relieve the parched ground. Something I have never seen in 40+ years.
If this keeps up I think it might be time to consider the fact that this is not only possibly going to impact almond pollination but Queen and package production out of CA as well come March and April.
If we remain dry through the middle of January I think that the first affect that might be felt is cancellation of late April package orders. Once bees get out of the Almonds most of the out yards are not going to be in any condition for proper rebuilding after early shaking.
Lets hope I'm wrong because the rain comes but it is something people who rely on bees out of California need to start thinking about!!!!


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#11 Thu 22 Feb 07 2:53pm
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Pesto with chicken...pesto with fish.... ...
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if you find that wild you this will blow your mind Rome.
Pizza using pesto for the sauce and grilled chicken strips on top with mushrooms and carmelized onions.
pesto doesn't have to be basil and pine nuts.the name pesto comes from the mortar and pestal it was traditionally made in. Pesto/pestal/pistou/piston.
I play around with different combinations of herbs and nuts if the basil available isn't at its best or if the pine nuts have a bit too much christmas tree flavour.
.In the summertime when i have pots and pots of herbs growing it is ususally a combination of basil sage marjoram oregano rosemary &parsley with almonds.
pistachio sage pesto is a fave combination of mine as well. Great recipe at the following link.
http://www.barillaus.com/Spaghetti_with … Pesto.aspx
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Pesto ( italian pron. /'pesto/ , genoese pron. /'pestu/ , contracted past participle of -pestare- "to pound, to crush," in reference to the crushed herbs and garlic in it, from Latin root of pestle) is a sauce that originates in the city of Genoa in the Liguria region of northern Italy (pesto alla genovese).
Pesto has been known, in various forms, since Roman times, and probably was imported from North Africa.
It is commonly used on pasta, soups, crackers, and bread, though its use is not restricted to these as the sauce is highly versatile.
Personally I'll stick to using it on my pasta (the original genovese pesto - although I've just discovered the existence of "Pesto alla Siciliana" so I'll probably have a bash at that! )
#14 Sat 24 Feb 07 5:45pm
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WHY OH WHY DOES BASIL DIE ON ME SO QUICKLY I've tried keeping cut basil in the fridge, as a plant, in a paper bag in thr fridge, somewhere dark, or light, on a window sill in and out of the sun to no avail. Does anyone have an answear?
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I wash mine and dry it and then wrap it in paper towel and then in an open plastic baggie? Or maybe use it asap and only buy what you need, lol! This year I am determined to grow it more sucessfully this year. I think they like sun but not all day. I bought 3 seed varieties this year and in a tape so maybe this will help. The other single packet I forgot i had will go into a container. I think I will but a big strawberry pot this year and do some herbs in there.
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Thanks bcrain, I'll try your wash and dry method.....do you keep the plastic in the fridge or open to general kitchen atmosphere I must admit, that unless I use the cut leaf or from a plant I generally blitz Basil into a thick paste, add olive or veggie oil and drizzle over the check.
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I keep it in the fridge... or you can always try to put some in water, like cut flowers, along with some other herbs and see if that works to... still working on it, lol! I have bought some basil in those little plastic containers from the produce section, way over priced, and if you dont use them in a matter of a week, depending on the date of expirery ( sp ) they do turn brown on you. Maybe it's to do with being too cold as well? Someone, anyone, any ideas, lol! I use the wrapping in paper towel method for my other herbs and it seems to last a little longer. I dont buy them, but I believe you can get those plastic baggies that have little holes all round for things to breath if need be. Hope that helps though.
#18 Tue 27 Feb 07 1:43pm
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Ruzzier wrote:
I grow my own basil and make pesto but as soon as I put pesto on hot pasta pesto becomes brown, the taste is good but it doesnt look good!!!!!
When you have finished making pesto you have to cover it with olive oil to prevent oxidation...
before putting the pesto on pasta add to it a spoon of the water used to cook pasta and mix
uhm.. my english is quite bad... oh.. don't use big leaves
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Ok, I admit it, the anonymous phone bidder was me!
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Ok, I admit it, the anonymous phone bidder was me!
**sigh** I love diamonds
That's pretty, but I can think of other things to spend that kind of money on
Beautiful....but I bet it hardly spends anytime on someone's finger :roll:
Can you imagine how much fabric that would buy? Never mind fabric. Houses and sewing rooms and sewing stuff and toys and, and, and......wow! lolQuote:
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I was watching a programme last night on tv, couple of UK Celebs, visiting USA...can't stand the girl...but anyway, she was in some top designer shop and just going ...have that, and that one, yep that, without even looking at the ridiculous price tags...I had this pang..I wish I could visit a good quilting shop and just do that ...heck sod it just buy the whole shop tee hee!!
Oh gawd, that wasn't Katie 'Jordan' Price and Peter Andre was it? What nightmares they are. They just announced they are seperating and it made the 10 O'Clock News! For Crying out loud! What is the world coming to?Quote:
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But yes, if I had that kind of money I would buy some nice jewellery, a nice car, a super duper sewing machine and flights to visit everyone from here, buying fabric along the way!
Got it in one....I want to knock their heads together...well if they can reach with those boobs lol!! I just feel so sorry for the kids...........Quote:
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Now I know why I like blue. I would like to touch it and maybe try it on :D
Love diamonds, I admit it!
I'll keep the one I have had forever and buy material instead :lol: :lol: :lol:
I would love to see it though in person and maybe just hold it for awhile!
Ohhhhhh.....well I guess my DH DID find that anniversary gift for me :wink: :wink:


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Stoneridge Drive: Same Old Two Obstructionist Council Members
Original post made by frank, Pleasanton Heights, on Feb 24, 2009
Instead of representing the larger population of Pleasanton, these two, who constitute 2/5-ths of the representation for the 65,000+ citizens of Pleasanton, always come down on the side of some small neighborhood who does not want something that was long ago planned in there backyard. The hell with the rest of us who live in Pleasanton!!!
To make it short. McGovern=minutae issues just to be obstructionist. Sullivan=whatever issues he can grab onto to be obstructionist.
The world moves on, the need for the extension increases as each year passes, the world changes around these two, but their brains are still back THREE years ago with the situation as it existed then. Why did you vote for these two?
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a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Feb 24, 2009 at 11:44 pm
As I watch this tonight Sullivan is now upset and is accusing other members of council as having come with their minds made up. YET IT IS CLEAR HE CAME TO THE MEETING WITH HIS MIND MADE UP!! What a work!
Now as I write this he is talking about litigation on this. He claims 1/2 the town wants Stoneridge Drive and 1/2 does not want it. Where did he get this poll? But he goes on to suggest litigation in the sense that he seems to be encouraging it. Is he inviting litigation? Who is going to litigate? Sierra Club? The nimby neighborhood?
Now he babbles because he realized he lost tonight.
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Feb 24, 2009 at 11:54 pm
Now McGovern has her turn.... Disappointment in the way the vote has gone but no new ideas nor solutions for the bigger issues that have been raised that supercede the minutiae she raised earlier.
In conclusion, Sullivan's attempt to put the extension to a citizen's vote was denied by vote of council. End of meeting.
a resident of Val Vista
on Feb 25, 2009 at 1:07 am
When it was obvious that he would be a minority voter, Matt Sullivan's comments turned to insults directed at his fellow council members and practically begged someone to sue the City.
I went up to him afterward and reminded him that leadership sometimes means you have to make decisions not just call for meeting after meeting. He said that he disagrees. I can't believe the arrogance.
a resident of Oak Hill
on Feb 25, 2009 at 1:59 am
It was apparent Sullivan came to the meeting determined to go in a different direction but he was also correct in his assumption three of the council members came with pre-determined decisions...
I'm not defending Sullivan but to his credit, unlike the council members that voted for the motion, he didn't read from a prepared statement when speaking against the motion although he did use notes...
This is an example of why many citizen don't wasting time attending political functions such as this believing they will make a difference if they speak. When the three "yes" votes "read" their statements, it was quite apparent they had prepared them in advance...
Another amusing moment came when each of the "yes" votes thanked the community for coming to the council meeting and giving them, the council, their input. Whether pro or con Stoneridge, why waste the time. It was a done deal before the meeting started...
It will be interesting to see where this goes from here.
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Feb 25, 2009 at 7:44 am
Finally! That road should have gone through 20 years ago, before houses were ever built there. That road is needed. And the council finally is doing what they were elected to do, make decisions best for the Whole community, not just a few. I miss the ole' days when former city councils were not afraid of making the tough decisions. They made decisions for the whole community, not a few. If they had been like today's politicians, more worried about getting elected than doing the right thing, then we would not have the nice community we have now. This neighborhood vs. neighborhood type politics has set Pleasanton way back. You can call it whatever you like but today it boils down to "it's all about me."
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Feb 25, 2009 at 8:27 am
The idea of Stoneridge as a leveraging tool with regional partners was brought up at the meeting last night and how, if Pleasanton approves the full extension now, we will have lost that chip. If I recall, it was Mr. Sullivan who pointed this out. What this line of thinking fails to realize is that any bargaining power we had with the Stoneridge Dr. extension disappeared several years ago because of the delay in deciding whether or not to keep it included in the General Plan update. That delay caused our regional partners to see Pleasanton as the obstinate child of the region that continuously needs hand-holding on regional issues instead of as a true partner. Approving the full extension of Stoneridge Dr. now restores confidence in Pleasanton amongst our neighbors.
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Feb 25, 2009 at 8:40 am
Perhaps the rest of the Council did Mr. Sullivan a favor by not supporting the motion to put the extension to a vote of the people. He would have lost any illusion he currently has of the true amount of his political capital when a super majority votes for a full extension.
In all the talk last night regarding traffic studies and numbers, the most glaring omission made by most speakers is the fact that there will always be Pleasanton residents who lose out on quality of life because some in Pleasanton want to build a locked gate.
One person spoke about numerous other streets where plans had changed in the past. She named Del Valle Parkway, West Las Positas, Kolln, etc. What her position completely ignores is that those streets have driveways on them. Stoneridge was designed to have no driveways.
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Feb 25, 2009 at 5:01 pm
trodes is a registered user.
Why are we taking county funding and using it anywhere but the school district?
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Feb 25, 2009 at 9:39 pm
After working with the two feet-in-the-mud-obstructionists for many years now, and with the SDE and the Staples Ranch development in its umpteenth year of consideration, Hostermann-Thorne-CookKallio would need to be nearly brain dead not to have come to meeting with minds made up and to somehow think that Sullivan and McGovern would not do what they ended up doing. Especially after Sullivan's spectacular kill at the last meeting. Both were true to form. Jerry, give us all a break. We are not that dumb to buy your criticism.
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Feb 25, 2009 at 10:57 pm
Good job to our Mayor and two city council members. After 30 years in Pleasanton I have seen more and more people like McGovern and Sullivan care more about their little neighborhood supporters than the community as a whole. We finally have a project that benefits our children and seniors alike and all these two council members want is to get votes. It took courage to stand up against McGovern and Sullivan's tactics of filling the council chamber with their small neighborhood constituents while the majority of the residents want this good project. Kudos to the majority!
a resident of Oak Hill
on Feb 25, 2009 at 11:28 pm
My comments weren't meant to be critical of anyone. I was merely pointing to the fact it was quite obvious minds were made up before the meeting and it was foolish for anyone to think their comments to the council would make a difference, and, how hollow it is for someone to pretend to give weight to others opinion when their decision has already been formulated. If you read it any other way, well, I guess that just shows your - never mind.... It's not worth the effort...
Oh, by the way. If you're looking for criticism, perhaps you should review what you've written in your posts...
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 26, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Minds have been made up because we have been talking about this for YEARS. Anything new come up in the public comment section? I think Thorne mentioned they had gotten 300 emails on this in the last week. Of course all of the members had some idea, did you see the stack of material they were all carrying?
Public comment does count! It can make a difference when it is thoughtful and based on fact not emotion or temper tantrums. It is a balancing act for sure.
a resident of Amador Estates
on Feb 26, 2009 at 7:56 pm
Does anyone know what it would take to have Matt Sullivan removed from office? Is it a petition? What is the legal due process?
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 26, 2009 at 10:11 pm
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 26, 2009 at 10:12 pm
How to recall a council member:
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a resident of Amador Estates
on Feb 27, 2009 at 5:39 am
FYI, that information is very general. Do you have any info specific to Pleasanton with detailing how many signatures are required? Setting up a booth at the farmer's market, and a table at Safeway and Home Depot would probably garner enough signatures in the shortest amount of time.
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Feb 27, 2009 at 7:31 am
I believe municipal recalls are governed by State law. So you'll want to look at State election code law on this. The City Clerk or the Alameda County Registrar of Voters might also be able to help walk you through the process.
You might consider canvassing the neighborhoods negatively affected by the traffic currently, like the ones over near Orloff park and even my neighborhood of The Gates. The neighborhoods along Valley Ave west of Santa Rita might go for it too.
a resident of Oak Hill
on Feb 27, 2009 at 11:46 am
Uh oh!! Now the "other side" that critized those "mean old clipboard carriers" of "yesterday" may be considering a clipboard drive of their own. This is too funny!!!
Why not ask our city attorney what's needed. He always gives great advise. Just ask around...:)
Oh!! Wait a minute!! Per the Professor, he doesn't give advise to the general public, just the council...
Didn't I hear somewhere he advised them not to approve "Option 3". Oh well, so much for his advise. Maybe next time...:):)
a resident of Mohr Park
on Feb 27, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Hey, this thread is great too! Even more people who want to see only those they agree with in our city government. It would really be great if we could kick any resident who doesn't agree with the majority out of town as well. Just think, we could have a town where everyone thinks and acts just like everyone else. Then we could rename our town Stepford.
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Feb 27, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Do you know something about "Petition from Amador Estates" that I don't? If you mean to imply by your response that I'm in agreement with recalling Sullivan, I was answering someone's question and I think you're reading too much into it.
a resident of Oak Hill
on Feb 27, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Naw, I don't anything about a "Petition from Amador Estates"(I don't even know where "Amador Estates" is located)and I'm not implying anything, although, with talk of setting up a booth and tables at different locations around town, it would appear someone may be considering carrying a clipboard in the near future...
If they do carry a clipboard I hope they have all the correct "whatevers" with them. If not, it could be - "Look out everybody cause here come da judge"(Stole that from the late, great Flip Wilson)...
Small town politics. Ya gotta love it...
Thanks for the chuckle of the day, so far...:)
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Feb 27, 2009 at 4:32 pm
As I wrote in the other thread on this, it's a spectator's sport!
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 27, 2009 at 6:43 pm
It is great when we have elected officials that don't always agree with each other. Different opinions is what our country is made of but when the ones that were in the minority leave a council meeting so angry or in tears that the entire community is witness to their temper tantrums is a bit over the top. And yes they were already aware that their little cronies had submitted an initiative to the city. Talk about already making up their minds prior to the council meeting which is something the other 3 council members were accused of.
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Feb 27, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Perplexed wrote: "so angry or in tears"
OK, so I wasn't the only one who thought McGovern was close to tears during the meeting? I haven't gotten to that part of the video yet to verify if what I heard from the back of the room was truly what I thought it was. And someone on the other thread called that being "astute"?
a resident of Amador Estates
on Feb 27, 2009 at 7:54 pm
As usual, it sure looked like to me that McGovern was fighting back tears by the end of the meeting. It was noteworthy the slamming around of papers at the diaz as well. I don't understand the dramatics especially considering she had to have known about the initiative filed earlier in the day.
a resident of Downtown
on Mar 1, 2009 at 3:57 pm
It's embarrasing that Sullivan and McGovern supposedly represent the best interests of Pleasanton. After watching this meeting that notion is a JOKE. Sullivan's position on everything comes down to..... If even one opinion I might not have heard exists, then I need to listen to it. What he fails to realize is that his position dosen't require him to take action based on each and every opinion. What happened to doing things for the benefit of the greater good?
Jerry Pentin would have been a far better voice of reason than either of these characters.
a resident of Alisal Elementary School
on Mar 4, 2009 at 10:33 am
Make no mistake. McGovern and Sullivan were well aware before the City Council meeting that a petition to circulate an initiative was going to be filed.
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Mar 9, 2009 at 10:33 am
what stacey and frank and some of the other posters fail to realize is that the rest of us live in neighborhoods, not their gated communities. what makes life easier for them in getting to their favorite shops, day spas and hair stylists, severely impacts the quality of life for the rest of us.
it is the quality, the tranquility of these "little" neighborhoods that make pleasanton the community it is. why is it so important to the franks and staceys of the world that pleasanton be like every other community in the tri-valley?
i would be willing to bet serious money that frank and stacey would howl their lungs out if the same thing were proposed for their neighborhoods.
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Mar 9, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Thanks for the laugh! The only gates around my neighborhood are the street names!
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2017 guide to summer camps
Looking for something for the kids to do this summer, learn something new and have fun? The 2017 Summer Camp Guide features local camps for all ages and interests.