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Pitbull unleashed
Original post made by Concerned person, Valencia, on Oct 8, 2007
A young man walked with his Pitbull dog unleashed. I requested him politely to put his dog on a leash. He ignored my request and answered to me with profanity.
I just want to bring this fact to you and our community. I do not want to wait until my children are mauled or severely injured to stop this type of irresponsible behavior. People should walk their dogs on a leash, more so if they have a vicious dog.
The members of our community should report this type of irresponsible behavior to the Animal Control Department of the Pleasanton Police by calling 931-5100 so that we avoid an attack to ourselves or our children. We have the social responsibility to act in order to avoid an irreparable physical injury or in the worst case scenario losing a dear member of our family.
Comments (72)
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Oct 8, 2007 at 3:52 pm
Seriously, folks with dogs need to keep them on a leash. Even if you think your dog is safe, the other person doesn't know you and your dog. I can't tell you how many times I've been out walking or riding my bike with my toddler and passed by responsible-looking adults with their unleashed dog, yes in Pleasanton parks and trails where leash law is in full effect.
a resident of Amador Estates
on Oct 9, 2007 at 4:27 am
Your right, all dogs should be on a leash wether you feel it is safe or not...its just a responcibility. But that lady, is the problem here, not pitbulls. first of all, you mention "Pitbull dog" but do you even know for sure this was a pitbull? do you know the distinct variations or diff. between say a mastif or a mixed terrier? but even worse, just because you "thought" it was a pitbull doesnt mean rabid crazed dogs are going to start running through your little community mauling or severely injuring people. with all due respect your comment here is stupid. you thought you saw a muscular dog and heaven for bid he wasnt leashed so you saw it as your perfect oppertunity to jump the ban wagon of blaming the breed of a dog instead of the actions of its owner. with all this mike vick attention you must be the talk of the town...ill bet youve told this story of a vicious pitbull who threatened you little children in your front yard over and over. maybe you should spend more time learning about what it is your discussing. you know nothing about real american pitbull terrier.
a resident of another community
on Oct 9, 2007 at 6:58 am
And you know nothing about writing coherent sentences with correct grammar and word spellings, Robbie. The lady never stated any of which you accuse her in your rambling tirade.
a resident of Foothill Knolls
on Oct 9, 2007 at 6:59 am
i agree ALL dogs should be leashed, even little 5 lb dogs. i cant tell you how many time i have walked my APBT mix and colie mix and have had dogs run up and bark at us or try to start a fight. the thing that gets me is the owners think its funny and cute becaue i have what they call a PITbull and there little yorkie is so cute running off leash to start a fight. iu am a responisble dog owener that is becoming very tired of the public outlook on pit bulls (the term pitbull isint even a dog breed) is so incrediblt far off that its quite sad. only 50 yeras ago this was americas favorite breed of dog, but somehow society has morphed them into these killer psycho dogs that attack anything.
a resident of Canyon Creek
on Oct 9, 2007 at 7:21 am
i agree about the leash statements, but the rules need to be applied to EVERY breed of dogs. I am the owner of two large german shepherds that can be very intimadating at times. But every time i go to the dog parks, here or in san ramon, i obey the rules and use the "big dog" side.... and every single time somebody let's in a small dog. Unfortuntely my dogs are natural herders and dominant in personality, when they go to investigate the little one... the little dog freaks out and attacks my dog. My female GSD has been bitten in the face several times, and unfortuntely her natural instinct is to protect herself and bite back. Yes, i will admit that my dog does do some damage..but is she really to blame?
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 9, 2007 at 9:18 am
It's not a responsibility, it's not a courtesy - it's the LAW!
Leash Laws
Like most communities, Pleasanton does have a leash law covered under 7.16.010 of the Pleasanton Municipal Code.
No owner or keeper of a dog shall allow or permit the dog to be or run at large in or upon any public place or premises, or in or upon any private place or premises other than those of the owner or keeper except with the consent of the person in charge of the private place or premises, unless such dog is securely restrained by a substantial leash not to exceed six feet in length and is in the charge and control of a person competent to keep such dog under effective charge and control.
The reason for having leash laws is for the safety of the dog, other animals, and the public. Unrestrained dogs may run into traffic, become involved in a dog fight, chase a pedestrian or bicyclist, jump on a small child or elderly person, or become involved in a dog bite. Leashed dogs are less likely to injure a person or another animal because they are under the control of their handler.
First time offenders can be given either a verbal warning from a police officer or Animal Services officer, be given a courtesy citation warning them of the violation, or be given a citation. Citations are handled according to the following schedule.
Fine amounts levied against dog owner or handler are as follows:
1st Offense $100.00
2nd Offense $200.00
3rd Offense $500.00
4th and Subsequent Offenses $750.00
Three or more violations in any 12-month period are handled as Misdemeanors through the Courts.
All reports of dogs being off a leash should be made to the main Police Department phone number at (925) 931-5100.
a resident of another community
on Oct 9, 2007 at 10:35 am
Please don't blame a dog for its owners actions. By the way a PITBULL is not a breed of dog. It is a category of dogs. So before you label a dog please know it breed. It proudly was a beagle and you call it a Pitbull to get attention.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 9, 2007 at 12:02 pm
if this had been any other kind of dog would you of asked that man to put his dog on a leash? I think not! just because it is a pitbull doesnt mean its going to eat your kids. i have a PitBull and it is the sweetest dog i have ever had. I hope all you people who think just Pitbulls attack your wrong i was attacked by a Lab but you dont hear people saying anything about tht. (Comment edited)
a resident of Dublin
on Oct 9, 2007 at 2:11 pm
I strongly support the author of this letter. I have 2 small children and constantly facing the challenge and danger of unleashed dogs running in the public parks and neigborhood. The law is there and I hope the public and police departments strictly apply the law! Give our children a safe place to live!
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 9, 2007 at 7:15 pm
"Please don't blame a dog for its owners actions."
What does this mean? That a dog who attacks because it is not secured on a leash is not under the responsibility of the owner? Of course it is. That is why the owner gets the fine, not the dog.
We have a right to own dogs and other pets. But along with this right comes the responsibility to make sure that our dog does not infringe on other people's rights and living. That means that someone's feeling of safety should not be compromised by a dog we own. As previously mentioned by another poster, even if you know that your dog is the sweetest puppy in the world, other people have no guarantee of this, and may feel unsafe around your dog.
A younger relative of mine refused to go to the park for at least a week after she was approached by a dog off its leash in the park. The dog was not in any way violent. It was just being friendly, but it is hard to convince a small child who has a fear of dogs that being chased by one is all in good fun.
The bottom line is, keeping your dog on a leash is the law. It may not be a necessary law for most dogs, but it is STILL a law. We need to respect this.
a resident of Highland Oaks
on Oct 9, 2007 at 9:31 pm
Hey I've got an idea. If you want to let your dog run around without a leash, take it to a dog park. Pleasanton has a very nice dog park within Muirwood Park and as taxpayers, you're already paying for it, so go get your money's worth.
Sounds like that young man walking the dog needs more education on the law. Too bad he can't get an education in being courteous as well. If I talked to other people like that I think my dog would be the only one willing to talk to me.
a resident of Highland Oaks
on Oct 10, 2007 at 4:10 pm
Walking a dog without a leash is like leaving a car without setting the parking break.
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Oct 10, 2007 at 4:41 pm
It seems like the police don't spend much time enforcing this law (I can't see how anyway). Just last night at the Sport's Park I passed by two owners with their medium to large sized dogs off the leash. One person just stood near their two jumping and playful dogs (as if they could catch hold of them if needed) while the other held onto the dog. They both held leashes in their hands but didn't have them in use.
Perhaps it would be effective to take photos of these owners and post them on a website. It would be perfectly legal as these people are in public locations.
Kudos to the owners out walking with their dogs on a leash or partaking in the free dog park!
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Oct 10, 2007 at 4:55 pm
I agree that ALL dogs should be leashed, especially at parks designed for children. My son was approached by a friendly but large dog when he was 4. He was licked in the face before his dad could get between them. My son, now 7, hates dogs because of this; even though the dog was "friendly," the sense of violation remains. So a child can be harmed psychologically by ANY dog that is not being controlled, even friendly, cute, "harmless" dogs.
Re the pit bull issue, some dog breeds were bred to herd. They like to nip at your heels. Some were bred to retrieve. They love to play fetch. Some were bred to hunt and chase. They are usually not good with cats or small animals. Some were bred to kill large predators. While an animal's personality is formed by the humans who train and hopefully love it, I do believe there is the seed of their breed within them and, since they are still animals, instinct or breeding can sometimes show itself no matter how well trained the dog.
a resident of Walnut Grove Elementary School
on Oct 10, 2007 at 11:38 pm
I agree with what Robbie said. The person who posted this comment is implying that all pitbulls are vicious dogs, when this not the case. Also, he made a great point about knowing if the dog was even a pitbull. I've seen many mutts' that look like pits but don't have any in them. Pitbulls were breed as fighter dogs, but so where MANY other dogs. The thing today is that we always hear about pitbull rings and the media has created a nasty image of them. It all comes down to the owners. Pitbulls have been breed for over 200 years and came from Europe; bull dog and terrier. The amount of breeding that has taken place has taken out a good portion of there aggression. At the same time, there still are some pitbull mothers/fathers that are very aggressive and one would think that if they are mean, their offspring will be mean. We have a pitbull here- she has been around my nephew since he was born, she has been around my grandma that is 87 years old. She has even escaped out the gate, ran around the neighborhood smelling everything, then jumped into a car full of kids and just sat there like she was going for a ride (the kids in the car started laughing). If a dog is mean, blame the owner. And whoever said something about labs is absolutely right- if we heard all these stories about labs, we would grow to "hate" them too. For the 411, pitbulls aren't allowed at the majority of dog parks because of their image. So tax dollars aren't being spent right since all of the community is not being looked after.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 11, 2007 at 9:05 pm
If you see someone with a dog that is not on a leash, pull out your cell phone and call the police at (925) 931-5100. Demand that they come right then and address the situation.
Don't even try to talk to the owner. They will want to convince you that pitbulls aren't really dangerous, or that the dog isn't really a pitbull, or that the dog is just being friendly, or even more likely, to tell you to just f*#$ off.
It's a police matter. Plain and simple. And it should be, because almost every week you hear about someone (baby, little kid, Mom protecting her kid, lawn workers, postal workers, etc) being attacked by a dog. Who really cares what kind of dog? One thing is for sure. It was a dog NOT on a leash. The only sure way to pevent that from happening to someone in our community is to just simply call the police.
a resident of another community
on Oct 11, 2007 at 10:05 pm
Thank you Cut Through for cutting through the crap. You put it quite accurately and succinctly. I read all of these comments, one after another, about dog breed recognition inaccuracies, about don't blame the dog stuff, and various other assorted irrelevancies where the writers talk around the basic issue but never confront it....which is that dogs will bite and attack people. Small dogs and big dogs both. The big and/or powerful dogs are particularly dangerous. This is a common sense statement. Yes, dogs always have in the past bitten and attacked people and will continue to do so in the future. And you the owner is responsible since you are the enabler! Keep them on a leash! Not this leash in my hand but not attached stuff, either.
a resident of Walnut Grove Elementary School
on Oct 12, 2007 at 10:44 am
Typical Pleasanton responses- making statements based on what they have seen on the news. Do some research about pitbulls before jumping to conclusions. Anybody with a real education knows how the media works- but many of you buy into. So many Pleasantonites are notorious for doing that. Here is some interesting facts about pitbulls from pitbulllovers.com:
Ten Facts About Pit Bulls Every One Should Know
1. Pit Bulls are commonly used as therapy dogs. Whether they are visiting a senior care facility or helping someone recover from an emotional accident, Pit Bulls are making a mark as outstanding therapy dogs.
2. Pit Bulls are used in Search and Rescue work. One example of well known SAR Pit Bulls is Kris Crawford and her dogs. Kris and her dogs have helped save the lives of many people during their efforts. Web Link
3. Pit Bulls serve as narcotic and bomb sniffing dogs. One Pit Bull, Popsicle (named that because he was found in an old freezer) has the largest recorded single drug find in Texas history. Read more about Popsicle here. Including how he found over 3,000 lbs of cocaine in Hildago, Texas.
4. Pit Bulls are great with kids. They weren't referred to as the "nanny's dog" for nothing that's for sure.
5. Pit Bulls are not human aggressive. The American Pit Bull Terrier as a breed is not human aggressive. In fact, quite the opposite is true of the breed. They are gentle and loving dogs. Like any dog individuals can be unsound and have behavior problems.
6. The Pit Bull was so popular in the early 1900's they were our mascot not only in World War One, but World War Two as well. They were featured on recruiting and propoganda posters during this time period.
7. Sgt. Stubby. A Pit Bull war hero. Stubby was wounded in action twice, he saved his entire platoon by warning them of a poison gas attack and he single handedly captured a German spy.
8. Pete the Pup on the orginal Little Rascals was a Pit Bull.
9. Pit Bulls score an 83.4% passing rate with the American Temperament Test Society. That's better than the popular Border Collie (a breed who scores 79.6%). View the ATTS stats here.
10. They are dogs not killing machines.
Not everyone tries to convince others' that pitbulls are safe- it's your own opinion. But making statements claiming "will convince you" is outrageous. Go read this webiste too for myths on pitublls. One of these days, a collie or some other popular "family" dog is going to do something bad and I pray that the news puts it on tv.
a resident of Canyon Creek
on Oct 12, 2007 at 1:25 pm
Dear Interested:
you wrote "The big and/or powerful dogs are particularly dangerous. "
i hope my two german shepherd eat you...seriously take a big bite out of your head!
I agree pets out in public areas need to be on leashes, no matter their size ... but this is no where to be discriminating against certain breeds.
And the to the person who spoke of breed types: herding dogs, are just better at herding when TRAINED, if my GSDs got out in some farm they wouldn't automatically herd some sheep into a corral!.
Once an animal is "domesticated" and is no longer a "working" dog things change. That's like saying someone who with a known family trait/advantage/disadvantage can't change just because of their genes...
PS way to go Rob from Walnut Grove... i love my GSD but have a special place in my heart for pitbulls because the hatred towards them. its aweful when some one discriminates against a breed withouth knowning the animal... it make me think of 1950 when african americans had to use different faucets...
a resident of Livermore
on Oct 12, 2007 at 1:33 pm
a resident of Walnut Grove Elementary School
on Oct 12, 2007 at 2:00 pm
I know someone whose dog was attacked by a pitbull-looking type of general category of dog, in Pleasanton. It ran out of it's house as she was walking her dog on the sidewalk. This was in the Walnut Grove Elementary School neighborhood. She was able to pull the aggressive dog off her dog. The police quarantined the dog because it didn't have all it's shots. It's now back with it's owners. She learned it had previously attacked a person. The police have done nothing else. That dog is still in that home, ready to run out and bite someone else.
a resident of another community
on Oct 12, 2007 at 2:55 pm
Quote from Jen:
<<<you wrote "The big and/or powerful dogs are particularly dangerous. "
i hope my two german shepherd eat you...seriously take a big bite out of your head!>>>>>
Put this together with the other content from some of the dog defenders in this thread and you MUST agree that it is not just the dogs that are dangerous....It's their owners!
This subject clearly brings out the crazies!
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Oct 12, 2007 at 3:39 pm
Jen wrote:
"I agree pets out in public areas need to be on leashes, no matter their size ... but this is no where to be discriminating against certain breeds.
Once an animal is "domesticated" and is no longer a "working" dog things change. That's like saying someone who with a known family trait/advantage/disadvantage can't change just because of their genes..."
I find these comments highly naive. No one is saying a person or dog CAN'T change through training, but to deny the role genes play in the behavior of ANY animal (humans included!) is relativistic moral fluff. There is no longer a "nature vs. nurture" debate as recent genetic studies on this problem prove that behavior is formed by BOTH nature and nuture. Moreover, dogs have been subjected to breeding programs by humans for thousands of years _expressly for the purpose of such discrimination_ that Jen wishes to downplay. So comparing dogs breeds with human families is like comparing apples with oranges.
Rob wrote:
"The person who posted this comment is implying that all pitbulls are vicious dogs"
Who cares? Your arguments are a distraction from the real issue. ALL dogs out in public need to be on a leash, as the original poster stated. It is the law. Even pitbulls serving as sniffer dogs are on leashes.
a resident of Walnut Grove Elementary School
on Oct 12, 2007 at 4:48 pm
Lol Stacey are you serious? If someone, meaning some type of police force, is using a pitbull as a "sniffer"- how you put it- they more than likely will be off the leash at some point. If one is going through a wooded area, keeping them on the leash will only shorten the distance as to what the dog can smell. Learn some sense when it comes to this. And my comment isn't a distraction. I agree 100% that dogs should be on leashes. I then went on to state my opinion about dogs and how people form negative opinions about certain breeds based on what they saw on the television. If you say my comment is a distraction, so is everyone elses' that have commented similarly to me. Better yet, go back and find where I said "dogs shouldn't be on leashes." You won't cause I never said that. And the pit that got out in the Walnut Groove neighborhood isn't mine. She has gotten out but is not human aggressive. More than anything, she would lick the crap out of you.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 12, 2007 at 5:02 pm
Ten Facts About Pit Bulls ...THAT ARE TOTALLY IRRELEVANT
Who cares about any given breed? That is not the point.
The point is that ALL dogs should be on a leash. No one, including the owner, knows whether any given dog, no matter what breed or size, will "bother" (attack, intimidate, scare, annoy, confuse, or even kil) a person or another animal.
What constitues being "bothered" is in the mine of the beholder. Period. What to some dog owner might be cute, friendly behavior on the part of his/her dog could very well create terror in someone else. (read the posts above - don't look down on the people who are scared of dogs - don't call them sissies - don't act the bully yourself - just take their commetns at face value - they were SCARED by some dog's behavior.)
This is why there is a leash law. Like other laws, people shouldn't have to or be encouraged to take the law into their own hands. Don't get in some dog owner's face about their lawbreaking ways. Just pick up your cell phone and call the police. The police will come and warn the person. The next time they will ticket them. Eventually the dog owner will either get the message or lose the dog.
And the streets will be a litle cleaner!
p.s. Yes, I do have a dog. I use a leash, and I even clean up after it as I walk it. It is a small dog, but it has a good size bark. No, it has never bitten anyone. I have actually seen kids shrink from it even while on a leash - I could not then nor can I now understand why they would hae been scared of my little old dog. But I do accept that it would have been much worse FOR THEM if my dog was not on a leash.
a resident of Walnut Grove Elementary School
on Oct 12, 2007 at 5:31 pm
Well who cars about your tiny dog then? I don't understand where readers forget about what they read. The person that started this post claimed " just want to bring this fact to you and our community. I do not want to wait until my children are mauled or severely injured to stop this type of irresponsible behavior. People should walk their dogs on a leash, more so if they have a vicious dog." My comments were in response to the vicious comment, which I'm entitled to. But since you took it to the "who cares" level, then who cares about your experiences? My facts I posted are only to let people know that they are not bad as people think. The world isn't perfect and I don't expect every single person to like them. But maybe the facts I posted could shed some light on myths people believe. AGAIN, I have never said one thing about leashes being bad. I stand by police officers that write tickets for dogs being off the leash. And that is the point- well there are many points in the first person's post. Which is why I responded.
a resident of another community
on Oct 12, 2007 at 6:37 pm
Like I said.... Love me, love my dog. Or else!!!
Rob and Jen.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 12, 2007 at 7:19 pm
It seems that there are two conversations going on here--one about keeping your dog (any dog) on a leash, and one about pit bulls and how they are being unfairly attacked.
Here are my two cents:
1. ALL DOGS should be kept on leashes. I totally stand behind that law. It keeps us safe, and it keeps us feeling safe.
2. I thought the comment that if you see a dog off its leash you should call the police ASAP. I think that's a little ridiculous. First of all, that isn't going to make you many friends (with the owner or the cops). Second of all, most dog owners I know who let their dogs off the leash at the park only do so because they are not aware it is bothering others. If you are uncomfortable with the dog, or there is a child that is frightened, most owners would be more than willing to put on the leash on the dog if you ask nicely. If they do tell you to #$%* off, then its ok to call the police. After all, they are in violation of a law and it is affecting you. But don't play helpless and call the cops because you have such little faith in the human race, or you don't think its your job to look out for yourself. Try and work it out yourself first and see what happens from there. But again, you will avoid much embarrasment and animosity if you speak to the owner yourself. As a dog owner, I would certainly put my dog on its leash if someone asked me to and said the dog was making them/their child uncomfortable. But I would be pissed and embarassed if all of the sudden without warning the cops were involved with something I would have done if someone had just said something. Wouldn't you be?
3. Although the original post mentioned a pit bull, it seems many of you are missing the point. Whether or not pit bulls are well behaved is not the issue. I'm pretty sure that the author was not meaning to attack a breed of dog. She was merely stating that a dog had made her uncomfortable, and it *happened* to be a pit bull. She could have easily had the same experience with another kind of dog.
a resident of another community
on Oct 12, 2007 at 8:19 pm
Kelsey, thank you for your attempt for a considerate post. You start out reasonably agreeing with the leash law, as do others in your camp. But shortly after you fall into the same mind-set as the rest of the dog owners, which is summarized best by your own words: "If you are uncomfortable with the dog, or there is a child that is frightened, most owners would be more than willing to put on the leash on the dog if you ask nicely. " ASK NICELY! You put the responsibility on the victim to solve the problem that you the dog owner create by not obeying the law.
We don't buy that. Never will. All of you dog owners can try to defend your behavior as well as the behavior of the serious transgressors, but we don't buy it, especially when all of your arguments put the burden back on us! Simply obey the leash law.
Don't defend its violation. Agree?
a resident of Valencia
on Oct 12, 2007 at 9:03 pm
I am not an expert on dog breeds, and really I appreciate all the efforts of various readers to try to educate me on this matter. It was not my intention to offend people that have pitbulls. The dog that I saw did not attacked me or my children- nothing happened to me and I am very grateful for that- I did asked the owner NICELY to put the dog on a leash and he was very aggressive. Hey people this is not a matter of discriminating against dogs. I really do not care about what breed of dog you have, I am more concerned about the irresponsible behaviour of owners. Just have your dogs on a leash. Thank you for the comments supporting my main concern NOT COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW.
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Oct 12, 2007 at 9:37 pm
Maybe the title should have been "Dog Owners Unleashed". Dogs reflect their owners.
a resident of Valencia
on Oct 12, 2007 at 11:24 pm
Hey Rob here is a website that can give you a little explanation on the meaning of the word vicious. It is MY OPINION that pitbulls are vicious dogs based on actual statistics.
Web Link
On another note, I am highly educated.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 13, 2007 at 8:03 am
Kelsey (annd all other dog owners)-
If you have read all of the above, then consider yourself asked nicely, for once and for all time, please, pretty please, comply with the law and put your dog (whatever kind you have) on a leash whenever it is not in your house or your yard or a designated let the dog run free park.
As Stacey said..."Even if you think your dog is safe, the other person doesn't know you and your dog."
As Wayne said..."i cant tell you how many time i have walked my APBT mix and colie mix and have had dogs run up and bark at us or try to start a fight. the thing that gets me is the owners think its funny and cute"
As Jen said..."the little dog freaks out and attacks my dog. My female GSD has been bitten in the face several times"
As Monika said..."i was ttacked by a Lab"
As Ali said..."I have 2 small children and constantly facing the challenge and danger of unleashed dogs running in the public parks and neigborhood. "
As Krystina said..."even if you know that your dog is the sweetest puppy in the world, other people have no guarantee of this, and may feel unsafe around your dog. A younger relative of mine refused to go to the park for at least a week after she was approached by a dog off its leash in the park. The dog was not in any way violent. It was just being friendly, but it is hard to convince a small child who has a fear of dogs that being chased by one is all in good fun."
As Katee said..."My son was approached by a friendly but large dog when he was 4. He was licked in the face before his dad could get between them. My son, now 7, hates dogs because of this; even though the dog was "friendly," the sense of violation remains. So a child can be harmed psychologically by ANY dog that is not being controlled, even friendly, cute, "harmless" dogs."
How in the world can you put the burden on the rest of the world to ask you to follow a simple, justified, rationale law? Who are you? Why doesn't the law apply to you in the first place. Are you that arrogant that the law is for everyone else but you? And if you are that kind of a person, why would anyone care that you are not going to be their friend if they call the police on a lawbreaker? What are you going to do to them? Sic your dog on them? And if you are going to be mad at them for calling the police for you not folowing the law in the first place when you know full well what it is - simply because you don't feel like it - what's to stop you from taking offense at their request? What if they don't ask you nicely enough? How are they going to get close enough to ask you nicely without coming even closer to the dog they don't want unleashed in the first place? So if they shout from a distance for you to leash your dog, how are you going to interpret that? And exactly what kind of a person ignores the law with a wanton disregard for his responsibility and total lack of consideration for others, but then cheerfully accepts a shouted out suggestion to obey that law and leash their dog? Or is it more likely that the arrogant ass ignoring the law and disrespecting the community will take offense and get mad, and then what? Or even worse, will you try and show the person how friendly your dog is and how it wouldn't hurt a flea, and how the law shouldn't apply to you and YOUR dog?
Get a life. Leash your dog.
And if anyone sees you with your dog unleashed, they should turn the other way and call the police. Maybe after you try and explain yourself to the police a few times, you'll get the message, which you obviously haven't gotten from the postings above.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 13, 2007 at 4:18 pm
I have been with my kids in park/playgrounds in Pleasanton when an unleased dog has run up to them. Once the dog ran straight at my child barking aggressively. Other times, there was on barking, but the running straight to my child scared them very much. They're little kids, and they don't know your dog, and whether it is friendly or not. I wish people would keep their dogs on leashes as they are supposed to do in our parks. People usually say, "I'm sorry! He's friendly!" But it's too late, you've already given my kid a heart attack when we're were supposed to be having fun at the park. 'Sorry' doesn't make up for it, put your dog on a leash.
a resident of another community
on Oct 13, 2007 at 6:35 pm
Don't you dog nuts yet get the message? Is not this last post from Janet clear enough? Not crystal yet? But don't say anything to Jen or she will send both of her German shepherds to bite your head off. Happened to me (yet she says she supports leash laws).
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 13, 2007 at 9:43 pm
It seems that I have been misunderstood. I NEVER SAID that I let my dog off its leash. In fact, I DON'T own a dog, and never have. But I DO have children who have been frightened by unleashed dogs, much like Krystina. I was merely trying to see the issue from the other point of view. You might have missed my point #1, which was
1. ALL DOGS should be kept on leashes. I totally stand behind that law. It keeps us safe, and it keeps us feeling safe.
I was just trying to point out that the reason people let their dog off the leash is because they don't think it is bothering anyone, but if they knew it did, they would put the leash on no questions asked. People just aren't thinking when they let their dogs off the leash.
But I submit to you the fact that by the time the cops get there, you could have single handedly put all the dogs in the entire sports park back on their leashes yourself. Asking gets the problem solved more quickly and efficiently--isn't that what we are going for? It will still make owners think twice before they let their dogs off the leash again. Actually, if you aren't into the "ask nicely" thing, then fine. Just say "Hey, keeping your dog leashed is the law, you know." Then if they don't care, by all means, call the SWAT team.
a resident of another community
on Oct 13, 2007 at 11:54 pm
I think what Kelsey is getting at is that when Animal Control (or officer if Animal Control isn't available) arrives, they will most likely ask you if you said anything to the dog owner. If you didn't, then you will come off sounding like you are too far above it to say something yourself. It will give you more credibility, and whatever authority is handling the situation will be more inclined to be on your side if you say, "I told the owner that leashing was the law, but they ignored me," than if you say, "No, I didn't say anything...isn't that YOUR job?" Although it isn't wrong, per se, it will not make the officer inclined in your favor.
Although, Kelsey, I doubt the SWAT team will ever show :-)
a resident of Val Vista
on Oct 14, 2007 at 8:42 am
I've been taking my 2 kids and my oldest son before that on bike rides along the canal trail and often see people walk their 'nice pets' without leashes. The law says, walk your dog WITH a leash. What's not to understand.
The one day that one of these 'nice pets' bites my one of my young children, or me, it'll be the owner that I go after, right after I deal with their 'nice pet' and it won't be through the courts.
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Oct 14, 2007 at 1:56 pm
Yet another example of a dog off the leash: Web Link
Note the owner was asked multiple times to put the dog on the leash before the attack. Walking around with a dog off the leash is like walking around with a loaded gun with the safety off.
a resident of another community
on Oct 14, 2007 at 8:21 pm
Adelaide, if what you say would be truly the case, then all officers involved ought to be fired. How could we as taxpaying citizens put up with officers who would grill the complaintant and implicitly put a burden on him/her for enforcing the law they are hired to enforce? I just don't buy your point being valid.
a resident of Canyon Creek
on Oct 15, 2007 at 7:20 am
Again i support leash laws FOR ALL DOGS!!!
Do you think any one would call the police if an unleashed Yorkie was running around? probably not...
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Oct 15, 2007 at 7:43 am
Ever seen the Dog Whisperer show? That guy was actually in Pleasanton about a year ago. As anyone who has seen the show knows, dog problems are really owner problems, a topic some writers here have touched briefly upon.
From Web Link:
"Owners need to understand the basic psychological needs of their dog: exercise, discipline and affection, in that order," said Menise. "When folks treat their dogs like human members of the family, problems arise. We have to see our dogs as animals first."
"Many times it is the quirky habits of the human owners that Millan has to change to restore balance and harmony."
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Oct 15, 2007 at 5:23 pm
Goodness. I have to admit that, when I read the first post, I thought the writer was right about the leash issue though possibly jumping to conclusions about that particular dog being vicious based on media hype etc. I also thought that, while the dog should have been leashed, the young man who owned it deserved to be muzzled for his rude response. After reading the uncivil discourse that followed, I guess more leashes and muzzles are in order all around.
1) Leash your dog and clean up after it.
2) Communicate politely with your neighbors and fellow citizens
There. Is that so hard?
a resident of Walnut Grove Elementary School
on Oct 15, 2007 at 6:14 pm
Lol, this has been quite a little chat. Kind of fun to see everyone's ideas/opinions. The weekly should write an article about dogs, leash laws etc. Or maybe host a dog party in one of the larger parks, where people can bring there dogs, let them off leash if they feel comfortable, and have lots of informtaion available to the public. And to the person who left the link for the pitbulls page thing, all that is implying is that ALL pitbulls are mean and aggressive. I guess you still don't get that proper training, exercising, attention etc, is a must for these dogs- as I have already stated that it's the owners responibility for their own dogs behavior. yes pitbulls can be mean, but train them right, give them attention and love and they can be a great breed of dog. Pracitcally any domestic breed of dog can be trained right to behave properlly- if people do these things and give all dogs a chance, then none of these events have to happen (meaning the dog attacks).
a resident of Downtown
on Oct 16, 2007 at 9:13 am
I agree - the Pleasanton Weekly should include an article about dogs, laws and dog owners in it's next edition. Firstly, I can appreciate the feelings of responsible dog owners who deal with unfriendly Pleasantonians when they're out walking around town. Dogs can be great companions and many are also safe, fun pets for children. However, any resident especially a parent of young children has every right to be concerned and insist that leash laws be adhered to when faced with an iresponsible and may I add, verbally abusive, dog owner who chooses to ignore the law. I will admit the concerned resident may not have called the police if the dog in question had been a chihuahua. However mix a large, unleashed dog with a rude, confrontational owner and you better believe most residents would have called the cops.
(P.S. To Jen in Canyon Creek- Please do not compare animal issues with the struggle of any ethnic group. It is an insult to your intelligence and to the millions of HUMANS who suffer discrimination, pain and even death).
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 16, 2007 at 1:07 pm
Isabel: where was the ethnic comment? I read a family trait/advantage/disadvantage in Jen's comment. Nothing about Ethnic backgrounds.
I've read that Jen's main point is that larger breed dogs are scruntized more than smaller breeds.
a resident of Downtown
on Oct 16, 2007 at 6:24 pm
I was referring to Jen's statement, "its aweful when some one discriminates against a breed withouth knowning the animal... it make me think of 1950 when african americans had to use different faucets..."
a resident of Dublin
on Oct 17, 2007 at 9:48 am
I have a German Shepard mix and we keep her on a leash, just so she won't scare little kids or people. Why would you even want to do scare people lik that by not keeping a dog on a leash? I can't believe there are so many inconsiderate people in this area who are fighting about the breed when they SHOULD be agreeing with the law and basic consideration, especially towards little kids. It frightens me.
There are a few dog parks, I know of one in Pleasanton and one in Dublin. That's a great place for you to take your dog if you don't want to leash them. What is the big deal with leashing them anyway?
A few months ago a child got attacked by a wandering dog in a Dublin neighborhood. I won't mention the breed bcs a lot of people might jump down my throat. Does it matter the breed or the fact that a child is hurt bcs of someones carelessness?
a resident of Walnut Grove Elementary School
on Oct 17, 2007 at 8:00 pm
The whole thing about the breed is because the main title of this post is Pitbull unleashed. The dog could have been another breed and the whole talk is to defend animals that can't defend themselves. Also, points were made about how owners neglect there dogs, which causes them to be mean. Not all animals act in a harmful way, even if it is a pitbull. Go watch animal planet, the Animal Cops show I think, and almost everytime there are pitbulls that were not feed right or were trained to fight.
a resident of Verona
on Oct 24, 2007 at 2:33 pm
While I can certainly understand the concern for unleashed dogs, both for the dog's safety and people, you must understand this. Pit Bulls are not viscious child attacking dogs. You have been played by the media who has often depicted them in a bad light for sensationalism. Once known as "THE NANNY DOG" because of how wonderful these dog are with children, it could not be more a myth that the Stafforshire Terrier (close relative of the Pit Bull) made the best of family pets and still do. Though some may be prone to dog aggression, this does not make them child killer or even dog killers. The problem with what you hear in the media is because of negligent people not the Pit Bulls and you should be far more afraid of them and teach your children to be far more cautious of people than dogs. Human beings are the most dangerous and violent species on the planet.
a resident of Highland Oaks
on Oct 26, 2007 at 1:36 pm
Just a quick note to let you all know that the City will most likely include new dog parks on the Bernal Park and the Staples Ranch Park. Hopefully these will let more folks have a convenient place to let their dogs run and play off-leash. By the way, if you haven't tried the dog excercise area at Muirwood Park, you should give it a try. There are two areas, one for small dogs at the North end, and one for all-sizes to the South. If you have any suggestions for new dogparks, please come to the Parks and Recreation Commission meetings -- second Thursday of every month at City Council chambers.
a resident of Birdland
on Oct 27, 2007 at 11:21 am
Pitbulls, Harleys, Raiders, Guns, Insecurity at its finest.
a resident of Stoneridge Park
on Nov 6, 2007 at 6:22 pm
I own an American Brittany hunting dog. He wears an orange color and responds to a whisle. I have spent $3000,00 dollars teaching this dog to obey- I realize all of the laws are in place for good reasons, however, I often let my dog off leash when we are in the middle of a part together. He needs to run and a leash does not do it. I am not making excuses for my behavior, I know it is deemed wrong, also, my wife doesn't like that I do it either.
I guess the only thing that bugs me is that in Pleasanton, we have become so uptight, that we can get shook up over any type of do beign off leash.
Some dogs (not pit bulls) do not have it in their nature to attack and are freindly, it is sad that those who have dangerous dogs are not willing to understand the breed enough to keep them on leash. Because of this, we assume that all dogs must stay on leash.
Like may processes in the work place, since many employees lack common sense, let's "dumb down" every process so that no one can mess up.
a resident of Downtown
on Nov 7, 2007 at 12:08 pm
I've walked a Brittany several times. Wait, let me correct that, I walked and the Brittany ran around in circles, tethered by a leash. This particular Brittany is the most personable dog I have ever met (he seriously has a personality!), but I would never let this dog off a leash while walking. He's broken a couple leashes already with the sheer excitement of running around outside. I realize this thing was bred to run and run and run, but still, we keep it on a leash while walking. Even though you spent $3k to train it, you are still being irresponsible by unleashing it in parks where it is clearly signed that you must keep your dog on a leash. And this is not only in Pleasanton, other cities have these types of laws as well.
a resident of Stoneridge Park
on Nov 7, 2007 at 6:46 pm
I get it- I have read every post.
* Don't have a dog off leash, any dog, anytime. I will check any level of common sense at the door, or as I enter the city limits. No discernment necessary. Just follow the rules. 1 pound tea cup poodle or 75 pound pitbull. Same rule for all.
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Nov 7, 2007 at 7:46 pm
Hey Dave, I think you have already checked your common sense at the door.
Go read: Web Link Then step back and ask yourself whether what is said in these 15 different items is just a bunch of BS. Should people in Pleasanton and who may be using its parks be aware of point 8 regarding "Become a dedicated student of 'Dog Body Language' " and the reasons behind it? Like the mother walking her 2 year old in a stroller when Fido runs up as you stand there smiling with leash in hand?
Someone wrote they spent $3500 to train her dog and implied that, having spent this money, she should be able to run her dog in Pleasanton parks. If she has so much money to spend on these things, why not go elsewhere and run Fido? Why Pleasanton parks, which after all, were built for people, not dogs? Go to a dog park somewhere. Spend some gas money to drive there. Or, go out in the non-incorporated areas and run your dog on some rancher's property. Go to other communities who have parks (Livermore, Dublin, San Ramon), or to the Bay Area's parks. Oh, can't do that because they have the same leash laws. Instead, Dave's common sense says to him to violate his own town's leash laws, since that's more convenient for him I suppose. I think that's what he really means.
Another quote from: Web Link
"Perplexing is one adjective to describe the rules and regulations that restrict and allow dogs on trails and in parks. Most of the Bay Area dog hikes are in areas that share space with human hikers, bicyclists, and other animals. Consequently, some of the hikes and parks prohibit access to dogs to prevent their mixing with other people, other animals, and to minimize impact on the environment. That being said, there are plenty of dog-friendly jaunts that are under leash or voice command control where your pooch is welcome. Surprise, surprise, there are even some places that allow your dog to go off-leash. "
This article goes on to name some parks with links to their websites, where dog rules can be viewed. I suppose that the no leash advocates in this blog are already aware of how restricted the Bay Area parks are regarding their dogs, so their "common sense" says to run them leash-less in Pleasanton parks. Here they can get away with it!
a resident of Highland Oaks
on Nov 7, 2007 at 8:43 pm
I have absolutely nothing against pitbulls, or any dog for that matter. However, I do feel that they ALL need to be leashed when out in public.
I have noticed one thing. It seems that owners of certain breeds of dogs seem to match up with stereotypes exactly. Maybe it is just a coincidence, but every person I have met with a pitbull seems to be a very combative person. Maybe it is just a reflection of education level. This is really sad because if they want pitbulls to be viewed as nice pets, they themselves might consider behaving in a classy manner.
In the meantime, I will continue to have an open mind about all dogs. I will also continue to call the police if I see a dog off it's leash around me.
a resident of Downtown
on Nov 7, 2007 at 9:23 pm
Why don't y'all just carry a stick with a nail in the end.. then, you can keep the unleashed dogs away from your kids and clean up the parks at the same time.
a resident of Stoneridge Park
on Nov 8, 2007 at 8:44 pm
I know you are correct and reasonable in your views. I know that it is a lost arguement, in truth, I have double standards. I do not mind wihen my neighbors let their Jack Russel run around without a leash, I assume he can't really hurt anyone. However, I get really mad if I ever see a more agressive dog off leash ie Doberman, Rot Weiler, Pit Bull, Shepard. I don't really mind when a guy is throwing a ball to his well trained Pointer, retreiver, hound, setter, etc.
I know that it is unfair for average joe to understand the difference in breeds, and, I would assume that ever so often one of the "nice breeds' attacks someone also.
I will back off and shut up.
BTW, I was the onethat spent all of the money on training my dog, he is quite the hunter. i can blow my wistle and he will stop on a dime. I am proud of him and he is very happy when he can run around, but I get it, i will try and keep him on leash, my wife will be happier, she always tells be that one day something will happen.
a resident of Livermore
on Dec 2, 2007 at 12:56 pm
Offer the dog and his owner a poisoned meatball sandwich...
a resident of Birdland
on Jan 6, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Question -- would the "Concerned" poster have asked the dog be leashed if it were a Lab? Or Golden Retriever?
FYI -- I share my home with a breed many designate as "aggressive." None of my dogs have ever shown aggressive behavior. However, I leash them whenever I walk them to ensure I have a "whip" to use against other small, unleashed dogs -- as well as a method of encouraging humans to not approach my dogs after being told I do not want them petted.
I also walk my dogs with a bag of ground pepper in my pocket. Nothing works better at discouraging a menancing dog than a handful of ground pepper thrown in the face. Easier to use than mace.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 30, 2014 at 9:03 am
During this holiday season it is especially important for dog owners to respect leash laws.
I will continue to call the police if I see dogs off leash.
I will also call the police if an on leash dog isn't being properly controlled by its owner and is presenting a danger.
a resident of Foothill Knolls
on Dec 30, 2014 at 10:54 am
I personally have no problems with dogs running unleashed in the park. To me it seems like an overreaction for very rare and isolated incidents. In all my years I personally can't recall a single negative incident with an unleashed dog in a park. Not to say that there hasn't ever been a negative incident but, again, my impression is that they are very rare. If that's the standard then we may as well put leash laws on young children and - better yet - on teenagers in the park.
Not saying that dog owners shouldn't be held responsible for the actions of their dogs. Of course they should, just in the same way that parents in a park are held responsible for the actions of their (unleashed) children.
a resident of Parkside
on Dec 31, 2014 at 8:44 am
I have dogs and take them to Shadowcliffs so they can run off leash.
On occasion I take them to the sports park and if no one is around, let them off leash to run and play in the middle of the field.
As soon as I see a person, I call them back to me and keep them there until the person has passed, sometimes on leash, sometimes with cheese. If there is another dog coming, I leash them back up.
There is a way, IMO, to let them run and follow the spirit of the law. It requires vigilance and paying attention to my surroundings. There is no excuse for letting your dogs free and not keeping a strict eye on them.
I have been to the dog park on Muirwood, and it's the only time my dogs have been attacked by another dog. So I have to find another solution. It seems people think they don't have to watch their dogs when they're in the dog park, which is a real shame.
Bottom line for me: If you're not responsible, leash. If you are responsible, leash when others are present. It's only fair - and the law.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 31, 2014 at 11:07 am
Unless in a dog park, dogs must be on a leash at all times.
How simple is that?
a resident of Foothill Knolls
on Dec 31, 2014 at 11:20 am
@Resident: "Unless in a dog park, dogs must be on a leash at all times. Period! How simple is that?"
Ever driven faster than 65 mph in your life? Well, unless you are on a private race track, you must by law limit your speed to 65 mph or less. Period! How simple is that?
What? Don't tell me that you're a hypocrite in demanding ironclad adherence to the law some times but not others. What a surprise.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 31, 2014 at 12:01 pm
You can say whatever you want. It doesn't change the law.
a resident of another community
on Dec 31, 2014 at 12:12 pm
I have a home in a rural area where people think that off leash dogs are their absolute right. So far this year I have shot and killed 3 that wandered onto my property and were deemed a threat to me or my livestock. While it was good to be rid of dogs that chased me and my animals, it would have been far more just to shoot the irresponsible owners.
The law says to leash your dogs other than in a dog park. Why do you feel so special that you can flaunt that law? Bring your off leash dog to my property and I'll take care of it for you. And don't bother telling me that I break laws so it makes it OK for you to ignore this one. Stupid answer from a stupid person. Leash your dogs!
a resident of Foothill Knolls
on Dec 31, 2014 at 1:13 pm
@"leash your dogs": "I have a home in a rural area where people think that off leash dogs are their absolute right"
Your comment has no relevance here. I'll tell you what's stupid: A rural rancher who thinks that keeping stray dogs, coyotes, jackals, wildebeests, etc., from harming his cattle has any relevance to any discussion about public park rules in a suburban community like Pleasanton. Sorry, Tex, mind your own business. I won't offer any opinions on how laws should be set in your community and you shouldn't presume to offer any on how laws are set in ours.
a resident of another community
on Dec 31, 2014 at 3:02 pm
A rural rancher -- that's a laugh. Not a ranch, not cows and in a neighborhood where dog owners think the same way some idiots in Pleasanton think. Three less dogs now though.
I also have a home in Pleasanton and spend time in some of the parks. Steel toe boots aimed at the head of any dog that approaches me should do the trick. Or pepper spray in the eyes of the dog. No one should have to be threatened by an off leash dog. Nor should we even have to deal with them at all. Keep yours on a leash or take your chances.
Or maybe some nice ground beef laced with rat poison. Of course as long as your off leash dog stays out of my yard he will never eat it. Get a grip, some people just don't think that your dogs belong everywhere.
a resident of Foothill Knolls
on Dec 31, 2014 at 3:44 pm
@"Leash your dogs": "Steel toe boots aimed at the head of any dog that approaches me should do the trick. Or pepper spray in the eyes of the dog."
Well, Tex, in these here parts that's what we call "Revealing a little bit too much about yourself". Thanks for keeping the streets of Pleasanton safe from those killer 5-lb poodles, though. Looking forward to seeing how things turn out as you turn your attentions to the neighborhood cats, squirrels, and surly teenagers.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 31, 2014 at 5:00 pm
You need to think about what you are saying and hope you never have to experience what happened to us when an animal that was very dear to us was injured by someone who insisted on allow his dog to run off leash when it was clearly against the law and dangerous. He kept insisting even after his dog attacked that "he would never do something like that. You seriously need to think about it.
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Beyond the competition, the Olympics offers the rare opportunity for cross-cultural camaraderie. Owens's feat was historic, but it is a little-told story within those Games that shows the true power of the Olympics. In the long jump's qualifying round, Owens came up short on his first jump and fouled on his second. One more foul jump and he wouldn't qualify to compete for the gold. The advice Owens needed came from an unexpected source: German jumper Luz Long.
Long suggested to Owens that he should adjust his approach and take off from a few inches behind the board. Heeding the advice, Owens qualified on his next jump with room to spare, then went on to beat Long in the final, leaving the German in second place. The first person to congratulate Owens for his gold was Long. "It took a lot of courage for him to befriend me in front of Hitler," Owens later said. "You can melt down all the medals and cups I have and they wouldn't be a plating on the 24-karat friendship I felt for Luz Long at that moment. Hitler must have gone crazy watching us embrace."
In 1943 Long was killed in battle in World War II, but Owens kept up a correspondence with Long's family. Two decades later the German became the first person awarded the Pierre de Coubertin medal, given by the International Olympic Committee to those who exemplify sportsmanship at the Games.
That is the Olympic spirit at work. We might fret about politics, but the Games break down barriers and pit athlete against athlete, promoting sportsmanship and camaraderie. That is why U.S. athletes need to be at the 2014 Sochi Games, especially considering how much the proliferation of people living openly and out of the closet has advanced LGBT rights.
When Brendan Burke—son of Brian Burke, the widely respected hockey executive who won the Stanley Cup in 2007 as Anaheim's general manager—came out, he helped make the NHL and the hockey world a more tolerant place. Though Brendan died in a car accident in 2010, he remains an inspiration. Imagine if the American hockey players beat the Russians on their own ice in Sochi and then take rainbow flags and images of Brendan Burke to the winners' podium? That's a powerful moment that can't happen if we boycott.
Imagine the other memories these Winter Games could generate, with openly gay athletes from the U.S. and abroad leading the charge. Could figure skater Johnny Weir make the Olympic team and climb the podium? Could speed skater Blake Skjellerup shock the world and earn a speed-skating gold medal? And could Dutch speed skater Ireen Wüst continue her dominance on the oval, taking home gold for the third straight Games?
Anything is possible in sports. Anything is possible in the Olympics.
But nothing is possible if we don't compete.
Have a question for Cyd? We're hosting a live chat with him this Thursday, August 15 at 1 PM EST/10 AM PST. Tweet to @Playboy your question using the hashtag #BoycottChat to join the conversation.
Cyd Zeigler is the co-founder of SB Nation's Outsports.com, and of the LGBT Sports Coalition. Follow him on Twitter @CydZeigler.


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Discussion in 'Chevy Truck Accessories' started by groceryman, Mar 11, 2013.
Painted my grill and chrome bar this weekend what do yall think
wow, looks great...............what did you use for paint ...thanks Brian
Definitely changes up/breaks up the look of the truck. Not one for the black on black, but looks like a professional job:great:
I like the work but I think there are some more details to consider.
If it were me I'd float a billet chrome or polished stainless bowtie in the middle of all that black in the nose ... in order to provide some contrast and bring together the chome relfectors of the headlights and the bumper's chrome.
I also think that the chrome and red front plate unnecessarily draws the eye away from the portions of the nose at which the observer should be looking. I.e. I feel it looks out of place amidst a sea of black with chrome trim ... since there is no other large field of chrome with red in it anywhere else on the truck to which it can be tied. Thus, it fails to seamlessly blend...
I love that look The Mono look I did it to my old Avalanche..
That I like, gotta have the contrast to break it up
I used rustolem gloss black paint for plastic and dupilcolor adhesion promoter. The chrome plate will be gone soon I just got the westin T max winch tray / bull bar combo just waiting to save up to get my winch . Thanks for the input everybody .
Looks good. I think that I would have fixed what looks like a big dent in the front fender before I worried about modding the grill and bar.
Must be a shadow or reflection no dents
Ahh, ok, They looks to be a huge dent just in front of the fender flair, on an upward angle towards the corner of the hood
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IDAHO FALLS, Idaho - The Idaho state capitol rotunda hosted their annual Buy Idaho Trade Show Wednesday. Buy Idaho is a nonprofit organization that works to shine light on Idaho-based companies.The organization said a lot people don't realize that the state manufactures a lot of made in the USA products.
Economists said when people buy from local businesses, it keeps dollars and job opportunities within that state. Because there's no other snow like in Idaho, the snowmobile industry sets up shop all over the state. MotorFist General Manager, Dan Peterson said he could think of no better place to do business.
"It's very difficult to manufacture in the states these days, but it's a real competitive advantage to be from Idaho. In fact, the whole nation looks to the west to set a standard for the snowmobile industry," he said.
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text: I was wondering if anyone else is having problems out of there sunroof. i have a 2009 crew cab silverado. i took it to the dealer 2 weeks ago because the sunroof started leaking water on the passenger side after a very light rain. the dealer said that all sunroofs leaks the dealer told me to park on a angle so when it rains the water would run to the drivers side..... so i took it back last week and fought with them for 4 hours and they said that he would replace the seal but it would not stop the leak. is anybody else having any problems like this and if so what did you have done to your truck. and is it true that all sunroofs do leak from factory.


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Excerpt: "Giants second year defensive tackle Markus Kuhn has dealt with several issues that have kept him off the field. As a rookie, the seventh round pick was not allowed to practice for several months due to a work visa issue, and did not see the field until training camp.
Kuhn, 27, played his college football at North Carolina State but was born and raised in Weinheim, Germany. Eventually, Kuhn was able to obtain his worker's visa and would play in ten games his rookie season, compiling eight total tackles. However, Kuhn tore his ACL in week ten last year against the Bengals, ending his promising rookie campaign.
Now, Kuhn is six months into his recovery and he believes his time off has made him better. "I definitely say that during the injury I got a lot stronger just because during that time I've just been focusing on lifting weights, so I'm as strong as I have ever," Kuhn believes.
Along with the physical strength Kuhn has added, his knowledge and mental capacity for the game has increased. While he sits on the sideline and watches the practices, Kuhn says he "gets as many mental reps as I can, know the plays, and see what everyone else is doing." Kuhn was in the same situation this time last year and his play showed that he does not need a large number of reps in minicamp to be productive on the field.
Kuhn understands the meaning of being on the Giants defense line, and just how demanding of a challenge it is to live up to their legacy, saying, "Well, it's the defensive line for the New York Giants, you have to expect strong competition." He later added, "The moment you feel comfortable is the moment you are gone, so you want that competition."
Though he is sidelined for the foreseeable future, Kuhn is anxious to get on the field, and he is confident that when he gets there he will be able to produce." Read more...


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Beau Rivage Golf & Resort • Wilmington, NC
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- Three Rounds of Golf per Person
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One of the best-preserved colonial cities in the country, Wilmington, North Carolina, paints a classic portrait of the Deep South, with antebellum as well as Victorian architecture lending a cinematic backdrop to this port city—it's no coincidence that so many movies have been filmed here. In addition to its historic district, one of the largest on the National Register of Historic Places, Wilmington offers plenty of other reasons to visit: Golf, fishing, riverboat tours, and some of the best beaches in the state are just a few of the draws here.
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The only stay-and-play facility in the Coastal Carolinas, Beau Rivage Golf & Resort offers an unmatched all-inclusive leisure experience less than two hours from Raleigh. Not only an award-winning course—complete with pro shop, driving range, target greens, and more—this charming colonial-style getaway features a business center, a casual restaurant and tiki bar, two tennis courts, and an outdoor swimming pool.
At a roomy 900 square feet, suites feature two beds, a living room with sleeper sofa, a kitchenette, and a private patio or balcony overlooking the property's golf course. And when it comes time to fuel up, sit down to a meal for two at The Veranda Bar & Grill. Savor Southern favorites like biscuits and sausage gravy or homestyle pancakes and grits in the morning, then tuck into an Angus burger and a salad at lunch or dinner.
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• Hit the links at the par-72 course
• Indulge in an on-site massage
• Cruise down the Cape Fear River on the Henrietta III
• Take a historic tour with The Wilmington Trolley Company
• Sip an award-winning microbrew at Front Street Brewery
"Not only was the service good, but the food was consistently delicious. The greens are fast and true, the fairways are long, with lots of blind shots, and the extremely hilly landscape made it an even more challenging round. Very enjoyable!"-- TripAdvisor
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Beautiful Flat in Historical Building (Doge 1)
Size60 m²
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It comes equipped with a fully prepared kitchenette, a satellite TV ,free Wi-Fi and self-catering accommodation with views of the city. The private bathroom includes a hairdryer.
"Doge 1" is situated at the second floor and it's composed of a spacious living room, two double bedrooms, and a sofa bed comfortable for two people and there are two bathrooms, one with shower and one with bathtub.
It is located in the Castello district, the most sought after part of the city for visitors seeking the authentic side of Venice, away from the crowded touristy areas. Campo Bandiera e Moro (or Bragora), is a quaint small Venetian square with a ringed well, offering an idyllic view that properly represents the Venice of yore and the city's fascinating "slow" lifestyle.
Well served by the ACTV vaporetti, thanks to nearby stops at the Arsenal and San Zaccaria, this apartment is especially easy to reach using public water transportation services along the Canal Grande. It is located is an especially advantageous position for a stroll along the scenic Riva degli Schiavoni, for a visit to the ancient and historic Arsenal, or reach the extraordinary San Marco Square.
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Check-in After 20.00 and till 22.00, the supplement fee is €20,00, after 22.00 the night fee is €40,00.
At the moment of your arrival, after having visited your apartment, we will ask you your valid credit card from which we will block an amount of € 250.00 as a warranty until the date of the check-out.
From August 24th 2011 also Venice enforced a new tourist tax for visitors: The tax goes to a maximum of 2,50€ to a minimum of 0,90€ per person for day until 5 day of stay.
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great location, ideal for 4, 6 a challenge
perfect place, clean, nice location and good and kind organisation of the host.
Beautiful apartment in the most beautiful city in Italy. He met all my expectations. Knowledgeable Lord gave us full information. In the apartment everything worked flawlessly. SUPER
Piękny apartament w najpiękniejszym mieście Włoch. Spełnił wszystkie moje oczekiwania. Kompetentny Pan udzielił nam wyczerpujących informacji. W mieszkaniu wszystko działało bez zarzutu. SUPER
luxury? dark, noisy and VERY VERY DIRTY
sending pictures if interested
de lujo?oscuro,ruidoso y MUY MUY SUCIO
envio fotos si interesa
The Gold-Apartment kept all its promises: it is ideally located in a quiet road and only a few minutes from the vaporetto stop of Ca d'Oro. The apartment is smaller than the pictures on Wimdu might suggest, but it is modern, good colours and furniture (quality beds!), very clean and all the appliances /apparatus worked well.
We were 2 couples occupying the appartment over 5 nights and very happy with our selection. The only point to mention: hard to believe that 6 people would share this appartment - much too small in our opinion.
Very central location, functional and practical furnished quiet apartment. Kitchen basic but equipped with the most necessary utensils. Especially in spring, especially in the evening cool. A few repairs would be appropriate. Very well suited for a stay with children. Very close to the vaporetto station.
Sehr zentral gelegene funktionell und praktisch eingerichtete ruhige Wohnung. Küche einfach aber mit den notwendigsten Utensilien ausgestattet. Besonders im Frühling vor allem abends kühl. Ein paar Reparaturen wären angebracht. Sehr gut geeignet für einen Aufenthalt mit Kindern. Sehr nahe zur Vaporettostation.
The apartment is beautiful and well decorated. For three people is big enough, bathroom very small. The location quiet yet central location, in a few minutes at the Ca d'Oro vaporetto stop. Unfortunately, it was not completely clean the floor and the cabinets were dusty.
Die Wohnung ist schön und gut eingerichtet. Für drei Personen ist sie genug gross, Bad sehr klein. Die Lage ruhig und doch zentral, in ein paar Minuten bei der Vaporetto-Haltestelle Ca d'oro. Leider war es nicht ganz sauber der Boden und die Schränke waren staubig.
The apartment is well located, it is comfortable and clean.
It has met our expectations.
El apartamento esta muy bien situado, es cómodo y limpio.
Ha respondido a nuestra expectativas.
Nice and well equipped apartment, great location (10 min walk to St. Mark's Square, three minutes vaporetto stop). The Via Garibaldi with restaurants and supermarkets is also a stone's throw away (in the Trattoria Tosi just order pizza!)
It has everything worked great, by the organization to settlement. Many Thanks!
Unfortunately, a few glasses in the kitchen. It would also be great if the landfilling of luggage could be regulated (from check-out until the departure) somehow.
And, the WLAN password in the documents did not agree with the active password match => always look on the router (I'm on Angang almost desperate) !!
If we should travel to Venice we will try to go again the Biennale Apartment
Nette und gut ausgestattete Wohnung, super gelegen (10 Min zu Fuß zum Markusplatz, drei Minuten zum Vaporetto-Anleger). Die Via Garibaldi mit Restaurants und Supermärkten liegt ebenfalls in Steinwurfentfernung (in der Trattoria Tosi nur Pizza bestellen!)
Es hat alles super geklappt, von der Organisation bis zur Abwicklung. Vielen Dank!
Leider wenige Gläser in der Küche. Es wäre auch super, wenn das Deponieren des Gepäcks (vom Check-Out bis zur Abreise) irgendwie geregelt werden könnte.
Und, das WLAN-Passwort in den Unterlagen stimmte nicht mit den aktiven Passwort überein => immer auf dem Router nachsehen (ich bin am Angang fast verzweifelt)!!
Falls wir nach Venedig reisen sollten versuchen wir, wieder das Biennale-Appartment zu buchen
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Welcome Back, Kotter' star Robert Hegyes dies at 60
Jan. 26, 2012, 6:02 PM EST
By Tim Kenneally
Robert Hegyes, who played Juan Epstein on '70s sitcom "Welcome Back, Kotter," died Thursday, the New Jersey Star-Ledger reports. Hegyes, who died of an apparent heart attack after suffering chest pains at his Metuchen, N.J., home, was 60.
Hegyes had not been in good health for the past two years, his brother Mark Hegyes told the paper. The actor had suffered a previous heart attack in recent years.
Police responded to an emergency call from Hegyes' home at approximately 9 a.m. He was transported to JFK Medical Center in Edison, N.J., but at that point he had gone into full cardiac arrest.
Though Hegyes also starred on the detective series "Cagney & Lacey" (as Detective Manny Esposito) and, in later years, guest-starred on shows such as "NewsRadio" and "Diagnosis Murder," he was best known for his role as Juan Epstein -- full name: Juan Luis Pedro Phillipo de Huevos Epstein -- on the 1970s sitcom "Welcome Back, Kotter" from 1975 to 1979. Perpetually scheming and always ready with a self-written note signed "Epstein's Mother" to explain his school absences, Epstein stood out among a group of characters that included the super-cocky womanizer Vinnie Barbarino (played by a young John Travolta) and hip but beleaguered high school teacher Gabe Kotter (played by Gabe Kaplan).
Hegyes' last listed acting role on IMDb is in the film "Hip, Edgy, Sexy, Cool" in 2002. He also appeared with most of the original "Kotter" cast members for a reunion at the TV Land Awards last year, as a commemoration for the series' 35th anniversary.
He leaves behind two children, Cassie and Mack, and two stepchildren, Sophia and Alex.


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Listening to the new MGMT album requires similar preparations to those for a prolonged psychedelic experience: you may want to leave some time in your daybook for unexpected detours, and it'd be wise to erase previous experiences from your mind for fear that heightened expectations may not be met and mass bummerage will ensue. Once you've got your supply of water, and the "Do Not Disturb" sign is hung on your doorknob, and the mood lighting is just right, you can listen properly and ask: what the fuck is up?
What did I say about erasing expectations? Anyone putting the needle anywhere on this disc had better forget about waiting around for "Electric Feel 2: Electric Boogaloo." Instead of repeating their recipe of wan, vaguely Prince-y dance-tasm moods, wunderkinder Andrew VanWyngarden and Ben Goldwasser create a lighthearted collage of jaunty surf jangles, snappy and irreverent paeans to Brians Eno and Wilson, and trailing plangent piano chords. There are harpsichords and flutes and recorders and reverse Mellotrons that disappear down unseen corridors, and notes and sounds that just hang in the air — if this album had a sustain pedal, there'd be a cinder block on it. Closer "Congratulations" sounds as if someone in the dorm next door were blasting "The Weight" so loud, you could hear the bass through the wall. It all ends with the polite spittle of golf claps; the ephemeral evaporation of the whole experience compels me to repeat it, again and again. Do I even need to tell you? It just gets stranger each time.
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AOL Shows Support for World Sight Day
Oct 10, 2013
Yesterday, AOL teamed up with TOMS to support World Sight Day. Held annually on the second Thursday of October, WSD strives to raise awareness around blindness and vision impairment.
Over two hundred million people around the world are visually impaired or blind – forcing many to give up jobs, independence and education – and 80% of those cases could have been prevented, or can still be corrected.
To gain a better sense of the true value of sight – while simultaneously increasing public awareness around this important cause – AOLers joined millions across the globe and wore sunglasses indoors to imagine what it would be like to have limited vision.
Everyone from employees to the AOL Blue Monster took photographs, using hashtag #BeShady to spread the word.
Loved helping raise awareness around #visualimpairment & #blindness with @TOMS. Thanks for your help! pic.twitter.com/0HG7FQiog3
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Havelock family returns from relief trip
HAVELOCK - Updated:
Superstorm Sandy relief opened the eyes of one Havelock family. The family who went north to help with Sandy relief efforts has returned.
Patty and George Aswad went up north earlier in November with two 26 foot trucks packed full of relief supplies. What they saw in the area around Sheepshead Bay, New York could be described as sobering.
"Just seeing kids walking around with their families wondering where they are going to be," Patty Aswad said.
Thousands of families have been displaced from the superstorm, relief efforts encounter blockades and destruction as it nears the coast. Havelock relief had to drop off at centers set up by authorities.
"Couldn't get into them with the bigger trucks," Aswad said. "They were just letting certain people in."
The Aswad's are from up North, making the destruction from Sandy hit literally close to home. Patty said the destruction they encountered was worse than coverage she had seen on TV.
A Havelock family originally from New York is behind a relief effort to help those affected by Hurricane Sandy.
Patty and George Aswad, owners of Crabby Patty's restaurant in Havelock, are gathering donations to bring up to help the Northeast communities that were devastated in Sandy's path.
The destruction hits home for Patty Aswad, whose father, sister and cousin all lost their homes in the storm's wake.
"It started off as my family had been touched by the storm, and we were going to bring them some supplies," Aswad said. "But as you can see, it's gotten a lot bigger than that, which is OK because there's a lot of people that need it."
The Aswad's restaurant is filled with boxes of donations, including clothes, jackets, blankets and even toys. The family plans to bring the supplies up to New York on Monday in a donated moving truck.
Patty's sister Missy, who lives in Sheepshead Bay in Brooklyn, extended her thanks to the community during a phone call.
"If you could tell everybody in North Carolina that we love them and thank you so much for everything that they're doing for New York because there's so many people that lost everything. It's very overwhelming that so many people have come together," she said. Missy also added, "thank you so much for everything. We love you from New York."
People who want to help the storm victims can drop off donations at Crabby Patty's restaurant in Havelock through Sunday. Donations are also being accepted at Icehouse Waterfront restaurant in Swansboro.


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The Lee County Sheriff's Office Fraud Line received a call this week from a 19 year old college student who reported being scammed out of nearly $1,000 in what she thought was an opportunity to receive funding to help pay for her education. The victim applied on-line through several websites for financial assistance and within a matter of days received a call from a man who identified himself as "Mr. Green", congratulating her for qualifying for financial aid. "Mr. Green" told the victim that all she had to do to receive the grant valued at several thousand dollars was make a donation to a charity for sick children. Over the course of several days, the victim wired several hundred dollars via Western Union to Nepal, along with placing several hundred dollars on a "Green Dot" card accessed by the scammer.
Becoming a victim of scams like this one can be avoided if you watch out for the following:
• If someone tells you they will need money up front before they can offer you any information or assistance.
• Promises or guarantees that you'll get the grant in the amount you want while offering prizes to divert your attention away from the "red flags".
• Requires your credit card number, social security number, or bank account number to get you started.
• Requires you to make a decision quickly because your opportunity is about to expire or be offered to someone else.
• Offers to send "free grant money" in the mail with instructions to deposit the check and wire money to pay for processing fees. Most legitimate forms of grant money are sent directly to universities, not to students or parents of future and current college students.
An education beyond high school is a costly investment and the process to pay for college can often be overwhelming for both parents and students. Federal Student Aid, an office of the U.S. Department of Education, administers the federal student financial aid—grants, loans, and work-study programs—available for education beyond high school. Federal Student Aid interacts with postsecondary schools, financial institutions and other participants in the student aid programs to deliver services that help students and families plan and pay for college. To learn more about Federal Student Aid and how to pay for college, visit www.FederalStudentAid.ed.gov or call 1-800-4-FED-AID.
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Inspired by the matt kemp thread http://www.baseball-fever.com/showth...r-in-MLB/page4
I wanted to ask how important 2 strike hitting is for overall production.
Some questions:
-what percentage of PAs go to two strikes?
-what percentage of hits are two strike hits?
It seems like the talent range with 2 strikes is quite small and all hitters suck with two strikes. however since a big chumk of PA do go to two strikes it still might have a not too small role.
of course there are secondary effects too like being able to be more patient with less than two and thus getting better pitches to hit and laying off more bad ball since you don't fear two strikes. this is a big effect too of course but we cannot measure that here so we must ignore that.


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