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Vocalization – a sound made by a wild animal to communicate with other animals; have various meanings including social, mating, alarm, aggression
Whistle count – annual population count of northern bobwhite quail made by wildlife biologists by listening for the "bob white" whistle in designated areas; estimates quail populations in the spring
Wildlife biologist – a scientist who studies and manages wild animals
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AVHS Baccalaureate Non-Denominational?
Original post made by Non-Denominational AVHS Parent, Amador Valley High School, on Jun 6, 2011
The program featured the youth pastor for the church who delivering a rather interest sermon and gave a final benediction. All in the name of his specific beliefs. I know that it made my child and several of us uncomfortable. The people I spoke with truly expected a religionn neutral event.
Let me be clear before the haters chime in. I am completely in favor of people expressing their faith. However, perhaps our perception of the event was that it would be less specific to a religion and more supportive of all religions. I believe the organizers had the best intentions, but I know for our future graduates we now know what to expect and decide accordingly.
a resident of Parkside
on Jun 6, 2011 at 8:26 am
'more supportive of all religions'?! How is that possible during a relatively short ceremony? Besides, why should that be the focus instead of why you were there....to celebrate the accomplishments of the senior class? If you are wiccan, do you expect the pastor to appease your you? I'm sorry to tell you, but it's not all about you and whether you were offended or not. Get over yourslef and your extreme sensitivity and look at the positive side of the event. Amazing.....
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jun 6, 2011 at 12:53 pm
First, I've been to Cornerstone and I'm sure they didn't perform any specific religous rituals (such as the how the Catholics do the "father,son,holy ghost" thing or how the Jewish men wear Yarmulkas or how Muslims praise Allah).
Second, If a religion other than your own offends you or makes you uncomfortable don't go to a church other than your own. I'm not Muslim but if I decided to visit a Muslim church I'd not be offended by any of their rituals - how does that affect me in any way? I could be sitting next to a Holy Roler Baptist screaming, falling to the floor crying and dancing around naked, it wouldn't offend me - to each his own. America is about freedom of religion so why prevent others from having that freedom?
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 6, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Maybe they should call this a Catholic-based ceremony and not non-denominational.
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Jun 6, 2011 at 2:18 pm
If this was advertised as a christian event, then perhaps people who were uncomfortable would have known what to expect.
a resident of Southeast Pleasanton
on Jun 6, 2011 at 6:03 pm
I don't get it. The youth pastor of Cornerstone Church gives a sermon and a benediction and everybody gets "uncomfortable". If you have to sit on bleacher seats for a couple hours in the cold rain and your underwear is too tight, that's uncomfortable. But nobody can stand letting the youth pastor say a few words? People are waaaay to sensitive around here. Sorry everybody's "perceptions" of the event did not come true but put your comfort level aside for a while and let the seniors have their baccalaureate.
a resident of Downtown
on Jun 6, 2011 at 11:22 pm
I believe a "baccalaureate" is a religious celebration that is held prior to a graduation ceremony.
I'm probably best described as non-religious. I was at this event and was not offended or uncomfortable. In fact, I thought the speeches by the teacher and the pastor were very well done. If the world around you is offensive, stay home.
a resident of another community
on Jun 7, 2011 at 8:16 am
I agree with "Oh brother" You went to a Church for a baccalaureate ceremony...if you were uncomfortable maybe you should look within and find out why God was speaking to you...no obligation to attend the baccalaureate if Church scares you just go to the graduation ceremony next time....
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Jun 7, 2011 at 8:22 am
My kids, who are Jewish, were also uncomfortable with the numerous mentions of Jesus. It was laughable that the woman who introduced this "non-denominational" event talked about accepting Jesus as her savior!
Since this was supposed to be non-denominational, it would have been more appropriate to leave out the Jesus references and just stick to God, an entity accepted by most religions.
a resident of Valley Trails
on Jun 7, 2011 at 8:35 am
Taken from Wikipedia:
A baccalaureate service (or, baccalaureate mass in the case of institutions affiliated with the Catholic Church and its orders) is a celebration which honors a graduating senior class from a college or high school. The event is often, but not necessarily, of an inter-faith religious nature.
a resident of California Reflections
on Jun 7, 2011 at 8:36 am
My wife and I attended the ceremony, we thought it was very tastefully done, not too much and not too little. There is nothing wrong with the young having some exposure to a God, I can't remember seeing such a beautiful group of fine young people assembled, I didn't observe anybody squirming or looking uncomfortable, to those who were offended, the message was not for you, it was for the young graduates.
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Jun 7, 2011 at 8:38 am
I attended Baccalaureate, as well -- I was the one who designed the slideshow to honor the kids. The references to Jesus were not over the top, but they were a surprise to me, because the organizers went out of their way to emphasize that the service was non-denominational. We can probably debate what the expression even means -- my .02 would suggest that we seek the common denominator in all of our faiths, that of God. And indeed, I heard several references to "the Son," which I took to be a less conspicuous way of citing Jesus.
It is my understanding that past services have included a priest and a rabbi, and who knows, perhaps seeking to be "multi-denominational" might be easier to pull off than "non-denominational."
The contradiction was not lost on the kids: the introduction of "I have accepted Jesus Christ into my life...and I would like to welcome you to this non-denominational service" was met with lots of teenage laughter.
a resident of Parkside
on Jun 7, 2011 at 8:38 am
If you're that offended by exposure to the terms used by other religions, you should be insulating yourself within your small, narrow community and don't venture out into the world outside your bubble. Maybe a private school is best for you.
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Jun 7, 2011 at 8:47 am
I was so glad we attended the services Sunday evening. I was told it would be a much more personal ceremony and that advice was right on target. The ceremony was well done, the speakers had good messages and the slide show took me back many years. What more could you ask for in a baccalaurete?
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Jun 7, 2011 at 8:47 am
I was so glad we attended the services Sunday evening. I was told it would be a much more personal ceremony and that advice was right on target. The ceremony was well done, the speakers had good messages and the slide show took me back many years. What more could you ask for in a baccalaurete?
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Jun 7, 2011 at 8:53 am
The slideshow was fantastic, the performances by students were good, I didn't even mind the bible verses that were read by students... but the long sermon given by a priest that most of us have never met in their life was over the top and ridiculous. Granted, there were some inspirational parts to it, but preaching to all the graduates that jesus would take care of all their problems was offensive and inappropriate. Especially the part at the end where he had us all pray to jesus. That being said, I still enjoyed the ceremony.
a resident of Country Fair
on Jun 7, 2011 at 8:54 am
Small minded smart mouthed parents raising families that think the service is the 'right way to talk about spirituality' is a sad comment on our future. Please get a life!
a resident of Livermore
on Jun 7, 2011 at 8:58 am
Could it be that it was a mistaken vocabulary moment? a 'Non-Denomination' in a Christian church is completely different than an 'Inter-Faith' program in a Christian church.
Non-Denominational would mean that no particular Christian denomination would be obvious, (Baptist, Catholic, Lutheran, etc.). But it would, by definition, still be a Christian service.
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jun 7, 2011 at 9:09 am
I attended the OPTIONAL Baccalaureate and it was well done and I especially want to thank the Dad that did the slideshow! Excellent Job. Thank you!
Regarding the references to Jesus. Seriously! The event is held at a Non-Denominational Church and yet, you naively think that they would be no references to God! Now we cannot give our own personal truth because it might make "you" feel uncomfortable! What about the fact that if I do not give my testimony; Jesus as my own personal Savior; it makes me feel uncomfortable!! My children are exposed each & every day to (what I consider) liberal messages about sexuality, alternative lifestyles and religions. I am not offended; I see it as an opportunity to talk to my children about our beliefs and the secular world. What offends me is that I cannot express Jesus Christ as my Savior without someone being offended. Really! Are you really offended?
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 7, 2011 at 9:32 am
It seems the problem could be solved if the other denominational churches had their own Baccalaureate. The Jewish religion should have one, the Muslim's have one, the atheist have their own, the Wicca's have their own, and so on. Then the end of the year Baccalaureate would be more like choosing the spaghetti sauce right for their taste as opposed to honoring their students in a quasi-religious manner. Of course that would entail effort on everyone's part, rather than sitting back and criticizing the editorial content of the show.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 7, 2011 at 10:16 am
Considering that this is a quasi-school-sponsored event, it should have been as inclusive as possible. We live in a diverse community, so an inter-faith service that did not stress Jesus would have been more appropriate. Although I am personally a mainline Christian, I would have also been uncomfortable with a highly evangelical service. There are many inspiring Bible verses (and verses from other religious texts) that could be incorporated in an inter-faith service, and a general theme of faith and belief would have been a better choice.
That said, anyone who is totally uncomfortable with religious themes, should probably stay home from baccalaureate. It is optional and it is held outside of school grounds for a reason.
For those wishing to have a more robust Christian experience, where a personal "testimony" of being Saved or Born Again would be appropriate and welcomed, and a sermon speaking of reliance on Jesus would be perfect, our area churches all have June services at which graduates are recognized and celebrated.
a resident of Downtown
on Jun 7, 2011 at 10:44 am
I am not a very religious person, but I attended the baccalaureate because my son wanted to participate in it. I found the entire event to be very well presented and received by the majority of people that were in attendance. I knew that this event was taking place in a church so I realized what I was getting myself into. If you were offended your probably should have done the same and thought out your attendance to this optional event beforehand, instead of nit-picking about it afterwards.
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Jun 7, 2011 at 11:27 am
I agree. I went to the baccalaureate service last year, and although I am a Christian, I was stunned at the specificity of the religious part of the service. This is for all seniors at a public high school, I don't feel it should be religion specific.
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Jun 7, 2011 at 11:53 am
The dictionary defines baccalaureate as specifically a religious service associated with commencement ceremonies. Why would anyone be surprised to find religious content at such an occasion? Many people hold the mistaken idea that they have a right to "not be offended". There is no such right. I have found that no matter what you are, do, or say (or even not say) it will be found offensive to someone. The only way to not offend anyone is to stand for nothing, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing and be just a cipher as a person.
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Jun 7, 2011 at 12:21 pm
The earlier comments do a good job of hitting the issues here.
A baccalaureate is usually accompanied by the word "service" or "Mass" and it is generally, although not necessarily, an event with some religious aspects.
So if you are going to one, expect there to be some religious aspect to it. But it is not to convert anyone, because the point is to honor the graduates and to send them on their way into life beyond school.
If you are going to be uncomfortable with any mention of anything religious, then you should probably not attend a baccalaureate service.
Or, just get over your hangups about what people might say about their faith or religious beliefs or philosophies about life.
I have found that most religions have some common beliefs that are found in all religions, and I am not offended or uncomfortable hearing someone talk about what is meaningful to them.
Cornerstone is I believe known as a non-denominational or inter-denominational church that is open to a range of religious beliefs, probably in the general area of Catholic and Protestant.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 7, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Like I said, this should be called a Christian-based ceremony, not non-denominational. There is a big difference; unless you are Christian.
a resident of Highland Oaks
on Jun 7, 2011 at 2:11 pm
As mentioned in an earlier post, Non-Denominational is still a christian service. The ceremony was held in a Christian Church. WHAT DID YOU EXPECT?? And moreso, WHY WERE YOU OFFENDED? I attended a christian service last month. I'm not christian. I visited a Buddhist Temple last summer. I'm not Buddhist. I watched a Jewish sermon on TV a while back. I'm not Jewish. None of these services or experiences are in line with my own beliefs. Still though, I could find no reason to be offended or uncomfortable with my experiences with these other religions. Why in the world would a reasonable person be offeneded by someone expressing their faith or beliefs in a public fourm? Are you really that sheltered or narrow minded?
You should be offended when you look at the rising crime rates in Pleasanton. You should be offended by the low test scores at some of our schools, especially the schools with higher minority enrollment.(PMS) You should be offended when your children continue to take your handouts and expect you to pave their path through life. You should be offended that more people don't contribute to our community in meaningful ways.
But to be offended by someone expressing their own beliefs and faith in a positive manner? Seriously?? Please open your eyes and get a life.
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Jun 7, 2011 at 2:29 pm
I guess it boils down to the definition of non-denominational. Several folks posting here says the baccalaureate service is non-denominational **Christian**. But we thought non-denominational was "Not restricted to or associated with a religious denomination." (thefreedictionary.com)
This is something that should be discussed and clarified with those organizing the event in future years. If it is indeed intended to be for Christians, then it should be advertised as such so that non-Christians can be aware of this and choose to attend or not. If the Baccalaureate is truly supposed to be for any religion, then the event fell short this year and hopefully can be rectified in the future.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 7, 2011 at 2:59 pm
"You should be offended by the low test scores at some of our schools, especially the schools with higher minority enrollment.(PMS)"
All of our schools have high test scores, including PMS.
"You should be offended when your children continue to take your handouts "
Handouts? How did the subject of welfare get into this discussion.
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Jun 7, 2011 at 4:22 pm
I am the person who started this thread. My original goal was to have a mature conversation about the AVHS Baccalaaureate. On average I believe the community participating in this thread have looked at all sides of the issue and offered up their viewpoint. If nothing else, the community of uninitiated Baccalaureate attendees can decide if this is an appropriate event for them or not. This in itself achieves my goal. No offense or insult was ever intended, only clarification and education of the event.
a resident of Parkside
on Jun 7, 2011 at 4:25 pm
mother of jewish kids----there's nothing to rectify. Oy. The service may not be appropriate for those looking to be offended by a mainstream set of beliefs. You can't please everyone, nor should they try....then, we all lose. Get over yourself and move on.
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Jun 7, 2011 at 4:26 pm
When I read about the non-denominational service on the AVHS Senior Parent website, I thought it would be appropriate for my interfaith family. And the venue wasn't announced until sometime after photos were due and we heard the setting didn't have religious symbols anyway. Anyway, the setting was okay, however the service turned out not to be non-denominational. The slide show was dynamite, the event was joyful and we appreciate the effort, just would have preferred it being non-denominational. However, for future Bacclaureate committees, please check into FHS's service as that apparently was non-denominational. Congratulations, Class of 2011!
a resident of Highland Oaks
on Jun 7, 2011 at 4:46 pm
CP- I was refering to an article posted on this website. As seen here: Web Link
I wasn't trying to change the subject of this conversation to welfare. I was merely trying to suggest that there are a number of issues in this community affecting us and our youth that deserve more attention than someones exposure to the religious beliefs of others. And if you don't think handouts from parents in this community is a big deal than you're lying to yourself. Not only does it influence youth in developing a sense of entitlement which is unrealistic in this day and age, it facilitates teen drug use. I know this from experience. My fellow students, friends and I weren't spending our own money for illicit uses. We used our parents money which was supposed to be for the movies, dinner, gas, etc... In hindsight, if I was earning the money myself, as opposed to my parents giving it to me whenever I asked, I would have spent it more wisely. Had I done so, I would have avoided many of the trials and tribulations of my youth. Thats another story.
Back on topic.
"If the Baccalaureate is truly supposed to be for any religion, then the event fell short this year and hopefully can be rectified in the future". -Mother of Jewish Kids
What part of this service was not for any religion? Could you explain for us why you are uncomfortable hearing others express their faith? If you analyze life this way, how can you truly enjoy it. I may not think volleyball is the best sport in the world, but I don't get uncomfortable watching it. I prefer oranges to bananas, but I don't get uncomfortable when I see someone enjoying their favorite banana.
I know my analysis is a bit tongue in cheek in nature. Thats just the way I see it. Let me pose a more serious question.
What if it was a denominational service that celebrated the achievements of all of our High School Graduates? Would you decline to attend if your student wanted you to go? Do you not recognize the educational benefits of experienceing other cultures and faiths? Are you as tolerant of others as you think you are?
Cheers and Happy Debating
a resident of Foothill Knolls
on Jun 7, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Just an idea, especially for Mother of Jewish Kids. Here is your quote:
This is something that should be discussed and clarified with those organizing the event in future years. If it is indeed intended to be for Christians, then it should be advertised as such so that non-Christians can be aware of this and choose to attend or not. If the Baccalaureate is truly supposed to be for any religion, then the event fell short this year and hopefully can be rectified in the future.
Perhaps you can plan the next event and express your concerns during the planning stages. Many parents dedicate hours to these events and parents such as yourself criticize the end result.
For AVHS parent, quoted: . However, for future Bacclaureate committees, please check into FHS's service as that apparently was non-denominational. Congratulations, Class of 2011!
I'm sure the committee would welcome your assistance.
Thank you to the committee that put in countless hours.
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Jun 7, 2011 at 5:41 pm
Some great discussions here. If those who are commenting with strong opinions could volunteer to take time to put their thoughts, energy, and time into planning future school events, I am sure they would be appreciated. Volunteers deserve our gratitude and thanks for doing what they do for our students out of their own time, for free.
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Jun 7, 2011 at 7:25 pm
The service was advertised as "non-denominational" which shouldn't specify which sect of Christianity they choose to preach. I came knowing there would be religion involved in the event, however I did not expect all of the Jesus remarks. They were not non-denominational. The part that made me feel uncomfortable was the chain removal scene, which basically stated that if you did not accept God or Jesus as your savior, you will lead a life filled with worry.
Like I said, I knew there was going to be religion involved in the ceremony. All I expected was a non-denominational ceremony, which it wasn't. I came to support my graduating sister, and that was the most important part for me, however I thought I'd chime in to say that the ceremony was not non-denominational, as advertised.
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Jun 7, 2011 at 8:08 pm
The issue should not be one of "were we offended" -- I didn't think that there was anything offensive about the service, and to repeat, I quite enjoyed it. Mother Of... asked how can we rectify it; perhaps I would temper that a bit to ask "how can we make it better?"
I am not suggesting that we eliminate religion from the service; anti-demoninational would be devoid of meaning. And I would not be in favor of holding separate services for separate faiths; the idea of interfaith events is for us to seek out the areas of commonality we have, not to highlight our differences. And the one thing we all have in common is God. I would be in favor of the service illustrating the impact that God can have in our community and the ways in which we all can find meaning in our faith.
I would like to think that such an experience would not be seen as denying people their ability to celebrate Jesus in their lives, but I have no doubt that should that be the case, we'll hear about it here!
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 8, 2011 at 9:31 am
I still remember my own Baccalaureate (which was held in the gym back then). It featured a Christian pastor, a rabbi and perhaps a third religious leader as well. Each spoke about how our faith could sustain us and help us as we moved into our future. The Christian pastor may have mentioned Jesus (I don't remember) but the theme was NOT about how we all had to accept Jesus as our savior in order to be happy, and was accompanied by appropriate verses and music. I was in the choir and yes, we sang several religiously themed songs.
I would think a service along those lines, more general and inclusive of more religious backgrounds, would satisfy more members of our community than one which is highly Jesus-specific. Remember that this is not about one specific church, but about all graduates who wish to reflect - together - about their faith at this time.
As I mentioned before, those who want a deeper Christian experience can attend their own church's service celebrating the church's own graduates, where in some cases, each graduate has a chance to get up and give their own personal testimony. This is a more intimate and appropriate setting for deeply held, denomination-specific beliefs.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 8, 2011 at 9:47 am
By the way, Cornerstone is interdenominational meaning it is just "Christian" not Catholic, Presbyterian, Lutheran, etc. However, most interdenominational or nondenominational Christian churches are also highly evangelical and even more likely to stress Jesus as a personal Savior than are the mainline denominations. A mainline Episcopal or Methodist pastor would have known better than to get into a discussion of being "Saved" in a public school's baccalaureate service.
a resident of Castlewood
on Jun 8, 2011 at 9:49 am
If folks were truely "secure" in their own beliefs...be they Christian, Jewish, Muslim, athiest or whatever. AND if they truely understood the underpinnings of their own "religions"...would we really even be having this discussion? Are folks truely concerned that one ceremony could tip their entire perspective of the world? The fact is, Man truely doesnt know the right answer...thats why its called "faith"...an athiest has just as much "faith" as anyone else.
It really does come down to guiding young people towards doing the right thing and having a set of values that helps them succeed and coexist in society...no?
Those that are offended are really insecure in their own belief system and lack the confidence that their belief system can withstand the challenges of LIFE! It is not our job to protect them and make them feel comfortable.
a resident of Ruby Hill
on Jun 8, 2011 at 9:49 am
I myself am a senior at Amador. I don't feel as if the gatherings refrences were inappropriate whatsoever. 1. The baccalaureate is a relgious event, and being held at a church a reasonable being might infer this is a Christian ceremony
2. Could this be a mistake in terms of phrasing? As if the event was non-denominational Christian--expressing the values of Christian faith but not appealing to any specific areas of Christianity?
3. Without referencing any specific religion how
were people expecting this sort of ceremony to
take place? Have people sitting around a fire talkig to sacred ghosts?
This is amazingly disappointing to me
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 8, 2011 at 10:05 am
None of that is offensive. What is offensive is to tell a child that her beloved grandmother is currently roasting and will roast for eternity suffering unspeakable tortures in hell because she was not a Christian.
a resident of Castlewood
on Jun 8, 2011 at 10:21 am
I dont think they covered that part in the ceremony...why dont you cover that part in the privacy of your own home and expose your child to all the different possibilities and perspectives. And then let the child decide for themselves. Guess what...thats what is going to happen anyway. Then "you" look to your child as an open minded person ....who looks at all things...as opposed to someone who is close minded that is pretending to be open minded.
By the way...the whole point to the ceremony is that your child is no longer "your child".....
As a side note, there is much more to Christianity than (metaphorically) burning in hell. There are many common values taught in Christianity that are consitent with Jewish, Muslim, Athiest...why not focus on good things that are in common than "bad" things that are not.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 8, 2011 at 10:53 am
Bill -
I think the whole point is to yes, focus on the good common ground that our major faiths share -- the common values that spring from our Judeo-Christian heritage. Of course this is a religious service. However, being that it serves an entire high school community of kids with diverse types and depths of religious belief, something covering more common ground - i.e bible verses, a sermon stressing the role of faith (and this could include God and Jesus both) in supporting them as they go forward, would have been more appropriate than a segment accentuating the need to accept Jesus as Savior -- something that is most definitely NOT a common thread to all major religious backgrounds.
Just because it was held in a church does not mean it should be an evangelical Christian ceremony.
a resident of Castlewood
on Jun 8, 2011 at 11:01 am
@ reasonable...agreed.
At least we're not trying to deny that our country did spring from Judeo-Christian values or that that is something we should be ashamed of or diminish. Some common set of values actually does draw our society together and lubricate it so that it can perform more effectively. (I'm dying to bring up Weiner...and how his loud mouthed appoach is so typical (and hypocritical)...but I wont)
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 8, 2011 at 11:17 am
An inclusive non-denomination spiritual service probably involves a god.
An exclusive service involves jesus. Only the Christian religion has a believe in jesus.
My observations show that many christians believe only their belief in jesus is correct and everybody else is wrong. It makes it difficult to be non-denominational. I have been in circumstances where christians believe tolerance is everybody else tolerating their use/belief in jesus.
If the schools are sponsoring or involved in a spiritual event, that is fine but as soon as they take on a single belief system, that belongs in your church; not a non-denominational spiritual ceremony.
I realize that the christian belief is the largest group in this area and therefore they have facilities that can handle large groups of people. Therefore these spiritual ceremonies will typically be in a christian-based church. However the building does not necessarily mean it needs to be a christian-based ceremony. Growing up Jewish in the Bay Area, I have seen many Jewish ceremonies in christian-based churches as there was not enough money, or a big enough congregation, to have a local synagogue. The local Jewish community rented the churches for their ceremonies and it worked out just fine.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 8, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Christian is one thing, but being linked with Catholic icons, idols, pergatory, and cultish excorsisms is quite something else ! "God" I think is universally 'safe'. Witnessing 'holy rollers' would be pushing it a bit... but having rabbi and catholic "priest" would NOT serve a mainstream Christian.
The service is OK.
Where I do have trouble is at the early elementary 'Holiday' programs, where Christmas carols are not allowed. The new DEC quanza 'holiday' that was 'created' by mortals in 'OUR' lifetimes is a bit insulting too.
Can't bring in everybody, but for this service, addressing God is sufficient.
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Jun 8, 2011 at 1:10 pm
As an involved parent and one of a incoming Junior, I'm glad this thread is here. Many good points have been made on both sides of the arguement. Even being an "evangelical non-denominational (or interdenominational)Christian" person, I have to agree that with the increased diversity of cultures in our school, it would probably be better to organize and INTERFAITH baccalaureate. I will definately work to be on the committee who organizes it for 2013 to put my $0.02. Most Christian churches (well at least the ones I know of anyway, do something in one of their Sunday Services for the members of their church who are graduating.
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Jun 8, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Thank you for all the comments. I will expect to see many of you at ALL the Sr. activity meeting for AVHS and will look forward to your discussion there regarding your concerns. If not, oh well you are missing out and can continue to complain here rather than being supportive and an assistance to your children and the community.
a resident of Walnut Grove Elementary School
on Jun 8, 2011 at 3:57 pm
@Parent, a resident of the Foothill Knolls neighborhood -
Clearly you missed the part where Mother of Jewish Kids' husband organized THE ENTIRE VIDEO for the service.
I don't know if this gives her the right to enter your special club of volunteers to give constructive feedback regarding the event, but I suspect it should.
A school-sponsored non-denominational event should seek to be as inclusive as possible. I don't understand what there is to debate about that.
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 8, 2011 at 5:21 pm
It is not a school sponsored event. It is organized by parents (not teachers or administrators) from each class. Please feel free to join next years group and offer your time and thoughts - and please expect others to do the same. "A special club of volunteers" is nothing more than those who committed many hours of their personal time to bring this to pass.
Please do not mistake this as a school function.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 8, 2011 at 7:28 pm
Dear Middle: for the record it purgatory not "pergatory".
"you say "but having rabbi and catholic "priest" would NOT serve a mainstream Christian."
not for me to judge your heart, but I will pray for you that it is open to do likewise. I think that is pretty "mainstream Christian"
Faithful Catholic w/ upper case "c"
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 8, 2011 at 11:04 pm
As far as I have ever understood the term "Baccalaureate" has always been a Christian service recognizing and honoring the graduates within a Christ-centered venue. The religion-neutral service is the graduation ceremony held at the high school. The term "non-denominational" is one that I have only encountered within the Protestant community. It typically refers to a congregation that is not affiliated with any established denomination. Such churches have very specific beliefs and those of one such will not necessarily be the same as another. However, non-denominational is also sometimes used to mean a service where the attendees share a small, but very critical list of Christian beliefs, while possibly differing on less critical articles of faith. I believe that the latter definition of "non-denominational" is the one that was intended by the organizers of this event, and many other Baccalaureate services that I have attended.
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Jun 14, 2011 at 5:22 am
Check out the definition of bacclaureate on wikipedia and on yahoo. Hearing nothing different, that's what I"d expected the event would be....
a resident of Dublin
on Jun 15, 2011 at 5:08 pm
My comment to: "but I know for our future graduates we now know what to expect and decide accordingly."
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If you have a router with a 1/4-in. collet, buy a carbide straight-cutting bit with a 1 to 1-1/4-in. cutting length (sold at home centers and woodworking stores). Place your straightedge on top of the board you're jointing. Set the straightedge guide back on the board so you remove only 1/16 in. of stock at a time. This technique is easier if your router has a base with a straight edge, but it also works with a round base. This "straight edge on top" method works best for 1/4-in. shank router bits because it puts most of the force on the router base instead of the bit's shank.
If you have a router with a 1/2-in. collet, go with the "straight edge on bottom" method by using a 1 to 1-1/2-in. carbide flush trim bit with bottom bearing (sold at woodworking stores). This technique puts the force on the bit's shank, but that's OK with these heavier bits. Just tightly clamp your straightedge on the bottom of the stock and set it about 1/16 in. back from the stock's edge. The only measuring you need to do is to make sure your board winds up with the same width on both ends.
You can use a router to make those square, straight edges you need to join boards into a solid wood panel. It's more time-consuming than using a jointer, especially for long boards, but in some ways a router works even better. You don't have to worry about having a long enough outfeed table (or workshop) for long boards or having the infeed and outfeed tables perfectly aligned. All you need is a good carbide straight-cutting router bit and a piece of 1/2-in. medium-density fiberboard (MDF) with a factory straight edge. The photos show two ways to make your joint.
If you have a very bowed board, snap a straight line with your chalk box, then use your circular saw to get a rough straightedge before routing.
Have the necessary tools for this DIY project lined up before you start—you'll save time and frustration.
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|Teen Teams: Should tomboys and varsity letters have a place in the fashion-doll universe?
The other day, I was talking with a friend of mine, who asked quite simply, "Why are there no tomboy dolls?"
That question immediately prompted me to recite a litany of dolls that displayed so-called tomboy traits. "Well, there's Skooter," I said, referencing the flaxen-haired, freckle-faced friend of Skipper. "And there's Midge," I rattled off, mentioning the red-haired, rosy-cheeked, freckle-faced pal of Barbie. "Why, there's also Tammy," I stated, thinking she used to come with a tennis ensemble and a one-piece exercising unitard, "and, of course, there is . . . well, some kind of cowgirl doll from Alexander, I'm sure. You know, a 'Wendy Loves to Rustle and Rope'—something like that."
After proving my point—sort of—I began to think about the dolls that I pegged as "tomboys." Were they tomboys or were they just sidekicks? It seems that in the doll universe, the laws of the "chick flick" clichés rule the roost.
Just as the lead actress in a dopey rom-com—Meg Ryan from the'80s, Sandra Bullock from the '90s, and Katherine Heigl in the new millennium—always has a loyal, less attractive best friend; so, too, do our fashion dolls. It's the "fashion" to pair the more attractive, more stunning bit of vinyl with a less comely clump of clay! (And freckles seem to be the red flag for supporting-player status.)
Are these dolls—because they are not the major players in their series—tomboys? Is that making an odd assumption about what a tomboy is? And, more to the point, whether or not a "tomboy" will play with dolls at all?
My daughter, Jane, is definitely a tomboy. She's seven years old, and she delights in tumbling around, improvising karate moves, and fighting warlocks and wizards. (She is a Harry Potter–phile.) When she's not busy engaging in battle on her own, she acts out deeds of derring-do with her dolls: three pint-sized Alexander dolls, courtesy of a Happy Meal, are D'Artagnan, Milady de Winter, and Constance from "The Three Musketeers." What can I tell you? She's old school!
When we settled down to watch "Little Women" together—God bless Turner Classics and TiVo—I explained how the four March sisters were all different but alike in their love for one another. Obviously, she was the most taken with Jo. Who wouldn't be? Whether she is enacted by Kate Hepburn, June Allyson, or Winona Ryder, the very dramatic and very headstrong Jo is the heart and the soul and the voice of the piece.
Seeing how smitten Jane was with the Civil War chestnut, I told her that I had Little Women dolls tucked away—an entire set of the family done in porcelain, even including the sensible, patient Marmee. Inspired by how Jane was able to sit down and watch the whole movie, I went and dug out my Little Women quintet.
I brought them to her, and she wisely said, "Why is Jo so still?"
"Well, she's a doll, Jane," I answered. "She can't move on her own."
"I know that," Jane replied, exasperated that I would be so cuckoo to suggest otherwise. "But why does she look just like all of her other sisters. Why is she so neat and pretty? Why isn't she like in the movie?"
And then Jane launched into diagramming how she would have sculpted and costumed a Jo doll: embellishing her with untamed tresses, a long cape, a swooping hat with a wobbling feather. She would have made Jo in the likeness of when she is acting out one of her dreadful, melodramatic plays; or when she has her hair shorn to earn some much-needed money for her beloved mother's train fare, when their father falls ill.
There are so many flashy scenes that showcase Jo's larger-than-life personality that Jane was disappointed in how "pretty" and "ordinary" she looked.
And I imagine that is the guiding principle in making dolls for the little-girl market (and occasionally the grown-up one too): keep them pretty and keep them sweet and keep them non-controversial.
Girls who were once pegged as "tomboys," preferring to toss a ball or scale a wall as compared to hosting tea parties and feeding make-believe babies, are probably so commonplace these days that the nomenclature of "tomboy" will soon be a charming word from the past: like the three s's—"schoolmarm" and "spinster" and "stenographer."
Young, healthy girls are encouraged now to play sports—more so than to play dolls. Maybe a way to blend the two worlds is to create wholesome, clean-cut, fresh-faced, well-accessorized, realistic tomboy dolls.
The Cabbage Patch Kids allow little girls to choose dolls that skateboard or ride horses or excel at soccer, but these dolls don't really attain the "realistic" badge of honor. Are there dolls out there that aren't Kim Kardashian lite and aren't CPK comical? A Bratz doll that figure-skates is a nice step forward, but her collagen-inspired lips and butt-length raven hair send a mixed message to young girls. Be active, wear hiking boots, but be booty-licious while doing it.
For all the little girls out there who like to expand their imagination and who like to play heroic and sweeping sagas with their dolls, there is a real niche available for a doll who can stand up to their dreams and to their demands.
No sexpot-wannabes or wimpy misses need apply!What do you think? Are there dolls that embody athletic, active, and real girls out there? Ones that can be handled and played with and fit in a regulation-size doll house? We know they are out there. Channel your inner Peppermint Patty, exercise your thoughts, and windmill-pitch your suggestion for true tomboys!
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I wish to opine about Tomboy dolls.
I am greatly pleased Stephanie Finnegan wrote about the need for Tomboy dolls. For me, dolls are not solely innocent toys and playpals for innocent children. Dolls also create and reflect culture, over time the same for our history. Our girl-child history has been sadly neglected. Stephanie's blog reminded me of my own girl-child days. I would then have loved a Tomboy doll, a Janeyjock doll to name and call my very own. When I was growing up, all too many years ago yet still much like today, dolls for little girls were cutsie and clean, hair Do's neatly combed, long and frizzy, appearing daintily in flaring dresses, little pink panties underneath, white anklets and pat'nleather shoes. Those dolls are dressed for Sunday school and little else and most importantly, define the only acceptable girl-child culture, future aspirations and history. Unfortunately, these singularly masqueraded playpals for girls largely determine identical and predictable behavior in grown women.
Growing up, I hated dolls. I chose for playpals in the daytime to carry about my stuffed orange monkey named Dynamite and my brown and tan panda bear named Poko. At bedtime these became my cuddle buddies. Dolls never reflected or represented me. I had not a speck of dainty about me. I appeared often with scraped and scabbed knees, messed and ruffled gear always ready for game. I grew up a tomboy. No doll, much unlike me, ever had dirty hands, pants pockets bulging with marbles and special stones, a grubby-wrapped,saved for just the right moment one-half stick of spearmint gum. No doll looked like me either as then I wore shorts or long trousers, a shirt, jock jacket, baseball hat and carried around my baseball mitt able to catch and throw a fast pitch with any boy on the block.
Here's my best pitch for the day. Many girl-children today admire and strive to be a Billy Jean King, woman tennis champion or the same for becoming a women professional softball player, as Cat Osterman: or a college and professional basketball player, such as Rebecca Lobo or a professional soccer player like Kristine Lilly, and someday represent the U.S.A. at the Olympics. Yet, no Tomboy doll exists to spur a girl-child on to such heights. She has nothing of the sort to carry underarm and close to heart. She has no cuddle buddy of that sort for bedtime at night and hold in her arms. Gone are her dreams of seeing herself, and her future desires to one day become a champion in her own right, and in the likeness of her playpal.
Hey Santa! Listen up! All she wants for Christmas is a Tomboy doll... a Tomboy doll... her own Janeyjock doll...
Tomboy dolls probably won't be made by big manufacturers because their market research will say "tomboys don't play with dolls." Case closed. It all has to do with focus groups.
I think you are onto something. Tomboys are going to be a thing of the past, and so are little girly-girls who don't know how to field a ball or score a goal. The barrier between little boys and little girls are blurring. The same way boys like to play with dolls (GI JOE and superheroes) so will these new little girls. They will be playing Lara Croft tomb raider or Buffy the Vampire Slayer or any other butt-kicking female. You go, little girls! I wish I could have been raised with your freedom!
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Campus Sustainability Day, an annual celebration of sustainability in higher education at institutions throughout North America, recognizes "the achievements of, and challenges for, the tens of thousands of students, faculty, and staff working to instill sustainability principles in higher education institutions and their surrounding communities." (campussustainabilityday.org)
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a These data are reported by the school and are for the school year 2006–07.
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Started in 1997 by two Florida school districts, the Florida Virtual School (FLVS) has since grown from five classes serving 77 students to more than 85 classes serving over 31,000 students in Florida and other states. In addition, individual districts can operate a franchise of FLVS whereby the district purchases a license to deliver FLVS online courses taught by its own teachers.
Two years after FLVS opened, the state appropriated money for the provider through a lineitem addition to the state budget. FLVS students earn a half credit for each semester of a course, and since 2003, Florida has provided per-pupil funding based on students' completion of half-credit (or one-semester) courses. FLVS expects to consistently grow by expanding its enrollment in existing classes, marketing a new middle school program, increasing the number of electives it offers in addition to core courses and a variety of advanced courses, and continuing to promote its courses in other states.
Through FLVS, students may take either halfcredit courses, which run for 18 weeks (i.e., one semester), or full-credit courses, which run for 36 weeks (i.e., two semesters). Courses range from middle school reading support and classes that prepare students for the SAT examination to honors academic and AP classes. In 2006–07, there were 2,348 enrollments, almost half by minority students, in 11 AP classes. All courses are accessible online around-the-clock and Web-based instruction often is supplemented by textbooks, CDs, and videos. Utilizing a modular course design in which content is organized in sequential sections, similar to units, FLVS requires students and instructors to participate in either synchronous (i.e., when people are communicating in real time) or asynchronous (i.e., when people are not online at the same time) discussions at the completion of each course section. The FLVS teachers make themselves available to students from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. daily.
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Florida legislation requires that FLVS grant priority to students from schools that are rural, lowperforming, high minority, or all of the above; students who need only one course to graduate; and students who are home- or hospitalbound. Priority placement does not eliminate course prerequisites. It simply allows priority students first access to age- and grade-appropriate classes.
Four regionally based external school counselors visit districts and schools to inform people about FLVS and promote participation in the learning opportunities it offers. Conversations with schools and districts have confirmed that they are well informed about FLVS, but FLVS leaders recognize that parents and students tend to be less aware of it. As a result, FLVS's director of Florida services has created a diversity initiative to increase communication among staff, parents, and students. In 2006–07, the external school counselors began working with community- and faith-based organizations to acquaint more community members with FLVS and encourage more minority students to take part. FLVS also runs ads in school newspapers and hopes to broadcast public service announcements in the future. In May 2007, FLVS ran a 15-second advertisement in three Florida movie theaters, targeting specifics areas of the state where they were seeking to increase enrollment.
FLVS has three internal guidance counselors who support students, parents, and teachers throughout the enrollment process. These counselors also assist students who are schooled at home, and they make presentations about FLVS at parent education conferences. FLVS furnishes schools' own guidance counselors with handouts, questionnaires, and access to students' FLVS records in order to help them explore FLVS options with students.
Seventy-two percent of FLVS students come from public schools; 21 percent are homeschooled; and 7 percent attend private schools. Students who want to take a class enroll online. FLVS's student-data management system, the Virtual Student Administrator (VSA), maintains up-to date statewide demographic and school performance information so that once students input their school and district, the VSA can automatically rank their placement priority based on the state's criteria, described earlier. School counselors and parents must log in to the system and approve the student's online course choice. FLVS seeks to expand access to advanced classes and, thus, any student can take honors or AP classes with counselor approval. Once enrolled in a class, a student has 28 days to withdraw without penalty.
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At FLVS, curriculum and instruction teams design and refine courses using the most contemporary online instruction tools. When necessary, the teams consult with outside technical experts. Each year, FLVS revises one-third of its courses so that every course is retooled at least once every three years.
FLVS's history of offering AP courses began in 1997–98 with AP computer science. In 2000–01, it added more AP classes at the behest of teachers across districts who had identified strong students interested in AP courses that their schools could not provide. In addition to teaching 11 AP courses, FLVS also offers free College Board AP exam reviews in 10 subjects to any Florida student who intends to take an AP exam, regardless of where he or she took the AP course. FLVS's AP students take the AP exams in their district, and FLVS reimburses the district for the cost of the exams.
All core academic courses, such as English and mathematics, are offered as either regular or honors classes. Students who elect the honors option complete additional work and are graded on a more rigorous scale. FLVS recently restructured teacher assignments so that instructors can teach both the AP and regular or honors versions of a course; in this way, students who find the AP course too challenging can drop back to honors and keep the same teacher.
Since receiving additional funding from the state starting three years ago, FLVS has added both regular and accelerated middle school classes. Students in eighth and 10th grades also may utilize FLVS's online preparation tool for Florida's statewide assessment, the Florida Comprehensive Assessment Test (FCAT). Finally, students seeking to improve their SAT scores may enroll in a one-semester SAT prep class through FLVS.
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st: Re: st: Re: st: Σχετ: st: calculating percentage changes in an unbalanced panel data set
Nick Cox <email@example.com>
st: Re: st: Re: st: Σχετ: st: calculating percentage changes in an unbalanced panel data set
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A more general point is embedded here which arises again and again
with date variables.
It is vital to realise that descriptions of the form
my dates are of format dd/mm/yyyy
do not distinguish between string variables with values such as
"25/12/2012" and numeric date variables with -format- (Stata's sense)
That is,
1. The word "format" is overloaded.
2. The needed information is about _types_.
The output of -describe- for the variable concerned is informative.
Word descriptions using your own terminology are often ambiguous.
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Nick Cox <email@example.com> wrote:
> My guess is that -time- is a string variable.
> This contradicts the earlier output from -tsset-, which would not have
> worked if -time- were a string variable.
> So, we need another guess. Perhaps you are really using different
> names, but translated for Statalist for some reason, but forgot to
> take some difference into account. Or this is a slightly different
> version of the same data. Either way, there is something about your
> dataset which you are not telling us.
> Whatever the answer, -mofd()- should work if and only if the argument
> is a numeric daily date variable. If it's a string variable, you
> should use -date()- to convert it to a numeric daily date variable.
> Nick
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Tzaloupas Dimitrov
> <firstname.lastname@example.com> wrote:
>> thanks for your reply Rebecca. the dates that I have in my files are of this format dd/mm/yyyy. so by applying the code you provided, specifically
>> gen month=mofd(time) I get the following error
>> type mismatch
>> r(109);
>> So, still I can not find the answer to my question. Is there any other suggestion?
> Rebecca Pope <email@example.com>
>> You have inflation measured on a daily basis? My guess is not. In all
>> likelihood, what you have is monthly data that happens to be coded
>> 01mmmYYYY. Stata, however, does not know this.
>> gen month = mofd(time) // get date in month format
>> format month %tm
>> tsset id month
>> Now Stata knows you have monthly changes, so it doesn't appear that
>> you have many missing observations within your panel simply due to
>> false "gaps" because of how your data is recorded.
>> Once you have -tsset- your data, you can use the lag operator.
>> Otherwise, based on what you are doing, there isn't much point in
>> -tsset-. Using lags to calculate a change in the inflation rate would
>> be as so:
>> gen p2 = (inf/L.inf-1)*100 // L. is Stata's lag operator (see -help
>> tsvarlist- if unfamiliar)
>> If you are wanting inflation since "baseline" rather than
>> period-to-period inflation:
>> bys id (mon): gen p2_alt = (inf[_n]/inf[1]-1)*100 // note here that
>> the time variable is in ()
>> In your original code, you had "bys country time". The problem with
>> this is that Stata is looking within country _and_ time and counting
>> observations. Because you only have one observation at each time
>> period, you get missing values. Placing time in parentheses tells
>> Stata to sort by that value but not to count within it.
>> p2 will result in missing values if your panel data are still
>> unbalanced after correcting for monthly observations. p2_alt will give
>> you a value at every point in your series. However, the two provide
>> fundamentally different information. Your example of 2/1 leaves the
>> ultimate question unclear so I've given you code for both.
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Tzaloupas Dimitrov
>>> I have some time series observations (inflation) for a set of countries
>>> The panel data set is unbalanced, that is,
>>> egen id = group(country), label
>>> tsset id time
>>> panel variable: id (unbalanced)
>>> time variable: time, 01oct2008 to 01nov2011, but with gaps
>>> delta: 1 day
>>> within each country I want to find the percentage change of inflation.
>>> I tried
>>> bysort country time : gen p2=(inf[2]-inf[1]/inf[1])*100
>>> but I get this message
>>> (500 missing values generated)
>>> Am I doing something wrong?
>>> I use Stata 11
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Hmm. That's an interesting idea.
Right now I had planned on moving my 29g fish to the 75 temporarily while I planted it... your idea would allow me to ditch planting the 29g and save me a lot of trouble.
I very much like it, now I just have to search and make sure a wide enough selection of smaller plant friendly S. American Cichlids are available to suit my taste, thanks!
I think you should just plant the 55 and do cichlids in the planted tank! ( assuming you are getting cichlids that are plant safe...) Im pretty sure that most African cichlids for example dont do well with plants. In either case I would put the cichlids in the bigger tank due to their territorial nature... whether it is planted or not. They are alot of fun to watch though! I have Bolivian rams and a golden ram in my planted 25 right now and it works out great! I also used to have a 55 gallon African tank a long time ago. The plants always got dug up so I gave up on that and just stuck to rock hardscape with crushed coral substrate and thats it.
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|Never really looked into them specifically. I'm flexible on what kind of Cichlids, as long as I can have a nice active tank with several different species. I do really like variety inside a tank and that's why I'm trying to get more than 4 in a big 55 gallon tank.
|What about doing shelldwellers?
I've read several successful stories of people having 10+ Cichlids (all 4-6" max) in 55g well filtered tanks, with reports that those numbers also greatly reduce aggression. Is there some reason you guys seem to think that's a really bad idea? I know the typical rule, but in doing some searches in other areas it seemed like this would be okay and I'm just wondering why you folks are saying it's not.
I love BN Plecos, and so maybe I'll put a pair of those in my 75g and keep others in the Cichlid tank if I leave it un-planted.
|I pick plant the 29 and cichlids in the 55. They will like the extra space and swimming room.
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I'm hesitant to plant the Cichlid tank because I also plan to keep the two plecos with the Cichlids, but if you think it will work I might end up trying it.
BN plecos are great in planted tanks. Not sure why you don't want them in with them.
I mean, you could do six if you wanted to do smaller things in a 55, such as appisto species (I know nothing about them though other than they get to be 3" or so) or Rams of some sort.
Or angels/discus....but those might not be what you had in mind as cichlids for the time being.
If you wanted cichlids that got up to 5" I'd only do 4, six might be pushing it (though tbh I'm not sure), but as for plecos, there are a few that would work in a 55 with plants. I know that any of the numerous bristlenose pleco varieties and species would work, outside of that though I am a bit unsure (though I'm also looking for a pleco so we have a similar issue). One thing I'd say though, is that if doing any sort of pleco with plants, especially more delicate plants, is that you should make sure the plants are established well first before adding the pleco....otherwise that might be a good deal of replanting once things get accidentally uprooted.
I'm hesitant to plant the Cichlid tank because I also plan to keep the two plecos with the Cichlids, but if you think it will work I might end up trying it.
And one of the issues is there are so many Cichlids and I don't know exactly what I want yet. But it does look like that doing them in the 29 is a bad idea. So I'll continue as originally planned and do the Barbs in the 29g planted, and put the Cichlids + 2 plecos in the 55 gallon.
If I'm looking at Cichlid/Plecos that are plant friendly what are some colorful options you might suggest beyond the two you mentioned? Also would it be possible to do at least 6?
in a 29, with decent sized cichlids (think convicts) I'd only recomend doing a single pair....anything more than that would be pushing it imho.
However, look at my 75 gallon thread. I have a trio of rainbow cichlids (stay under 6 inches) and plan on having another cichlid pair and getting some more angelfish as well. You can totally have a planted tank with smaller cichlids.
In fact, I don't see why you don't just plant both tanks? I can easily suggest some cichlids that would work well with plants for you if you'd like...and I feel like most cichlids that are under 6" can work very well with plants as well.
for example, you could do your 29 planted with maybe a pair of HRP or rainbow cichlids or keyholes or something, then in the 55 have a mob of little fish, or do the 29 for little fish and the 55 for plants and certain cichlids that could work with your desired level of planting. For example...I could see you doing something like a pair of HRP with a pair of rainbows in a 55, then have some sturdy dither fish of your choosing, like larger bodied tetras or barbs or other schooling fish, and call it a day.
And I'm not even saying that cichlids need to be kept in low tech tanks either, you can totally have cichlids with plants in even a densely planted high tech tank (what I'm doing), its not just all java fern and anubias with them.
So really, to make this easier, decide on what kind of cichlids interest you, and then I can better recommend ideas to you about that.
|And I should mention, I'd have no problem having only 4 Cichlids in the 29g tank, I'm just worried about aggression with that small of number.
The type of Cichlids I get can kinda be determined by which tank they go in. And by small I mean the ones that at full size don't get over 6". I had figured they'd have to go in the 55g, but was just trying this other option out as I'd love to plant the 55g.
The other factor is that I have the 29g set up with gravel and normal lighting. Currently the 55 tank has no substrate and a very dirty top and light.
If I plant the 55 I have to buy a new light anyway and I have a bag of STS to put in there.
If I plant the 29 I have to take the gravel out, throw the good top and light away, and clean the 55 equipment best I can.
In short, it would be less hassle to keep the 29 the way it is and put the fish in there, but I just don't know if it's possible.
Which option sounds better to you guys?
You can't even really do 10 small cichlids in a 75 (assuming small is like convicts)
Maybe rams or appistoes
What are you wanting on terms of small cichlids anyways? In a smaller tank, African shell dweller cichlids would be small and could work.
Which option sounds better to you guys?
Okay, here's my situation. I'm currently working through setting up my first planted tank, a 75g. Once that's completely I'll have two other tanks to work with, a 29g and a 55g. In one of the tanks I plan to have Cichlids and 2 Plecos, and in the other I plan to do planted with barbs and potentially a few other fish.
My initial plan was to do the 29g as the Barb tank, but reading about them now there are a few species of Pleco (including the Bristlenose that I really like) that can be kept in the 29g. Now I'd love to be able to plant the 55g as that gives me more room to work with, but not sure if it's practical to keep Cichlids in a 29g tank. I know there are a lot of smaller species, but do you guys think I'd be able to do 6, 8, or maybe even 10 smaller Cichlids in a 29 with 2 plecos?
And of course... any other ideas from those far more experienced than myself?
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