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Palo Alto community not ready for tasers
Original post made by Jeff Blum, Another Palo Alto neighborhood, on Jan 30, 2007
I recall breathing a sigh of relief when she said she would not immediately ask the City Council to approve acquiring Tasers. We had enough on our plate with calls for independent panels to conduct oversight of police actions, our review of police interrogation practices and our need to address allegations of police racial profiling.
But Tasers are b-a-a-ck, and I am liberated to speak about them. So here are some questions that the folks on the newly appointed Taser Task Force might add to their lists, if they are not already there:
Have Tasers become safer in the past few years? An investigative report by the New York Times several years ago raised serious questions about the safety claims of the company that sold Tasers.
The Weekly did a cover story that raised some of the same concerns ("Shock value," July 28, 2004 -- Web Link 2004_07_28.taser28.shtml).
So far as I know Tasers are not any safer now than they were then.
Would the possession and use of Tasers by the police be consistent with our image as a city known for inclusiveness and compassion? I have heard that Tasers are often used on the mentally ill who do not respond to reasonable police efforts to stop their misconduct.
I have also heard that pregnant women and people with heart conditions are among those who are most susceptible to being killed or seriously injured by Tasers.
Additionally, I have heard that Tasers have been used on people who did not pose a serious physical risk. On the other hand, in his book called Crazy, which explores the woeful state of our country's mental health system, former Washington Post reporter Pete Earley, quoted several police officers who claimed that using Tasers kept them from having to kill several people during high-risk confrontations.
Are other cities the size of Palo Alto and with similar crime problems obtaining Tasers? If so, what motivated them to purchase them? Given our crime rate I question the need for our police to have Tasers at this time.
Are there reasonable alternatives to acquiring Tasers? What about using nets on unruly criminal suspects? How about training and using more crisis negotiators?
How do our police officers and citizens feel about Tasers? Perhaps our city auditor, or the task force, should conduct a survey to learn the answer.
How reliable and consistent are electrical discharges from Tasers?
What is the track record of the company selling the Tasers?
Is it possible for the city to do a liability risk assessment before deciding whether to acquire Tasers?
If the police obtained Tasers under what circumstances would they be used?
Tasers do not appear to be ready for prime time, and they do not appear to fit with our city's image as a place known for its compassion and sensitivity.
My guess is that I will now forever be known in some circles as a compassionate softy, but the questions are real and deserve a hard-headed examination.
Comments (18)
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jan 30, 2007 at 1:50 pm
I would like to say first of all, the section on the right hand side of paloaltoonline.com says "Today's top posts." I thought this was reserved for posts that obtain the most comments, but obviously that is not the case. It seems like it is more hot button issues where people who have no idea what they are talking about like to be heard.
I quote."I have heard that Tasers are often used on the mentally ill who do not respond to reasonable police efforts to stop their misconduct. I have also heard that pregnant women and people with heart conditions are among those who are most susceptible to being killed or seriously injured by Tasers. Additionally, I have heard that Tasers have been used on people who did not pose a serious physical risk. On the other hand, in his book called Crazy, which explores the woeful state of our country's mental health system, former Washington Post reporter Pete Earley, quoted several police officers who claimed that using Tasers kept them from having to kill several people during high-risk confrontations. Are other cities the size of Palo Alto and with similar crime problems obtaining Tasers? If so, what motivated them to purchase them? Given our crime rate I question the need for our police to have Tasers at this time."
I have heard, I have heard, I have heard. The facts please. I have personally heard that coke will dissolve a nail, and that hotdogs are made of earthobyte, which is earthworms. The fact of the matter is that a taser is a TOOL. The tasers proposed for the city of Palo Alto would have cameras thus allowing a review board to determine whether or not the tool should have been used if the topic arises. Yes, Los Altos, Menlo Park, Mountain View, San Jose, Sunnyvale, and others ALREADY have tasers. There are many law suits around the country where departments are being sued for not having tasers. The tasers would not be used on people who simply do not comply, but rather those who do not comply and are combative. When have you ever heard of a taser being used on a pregnant woman, give me a break.
YOU ENTRUST OUR OFFICERS WITH A OC SPRAY, VICIOUS DOGS, A PEPPER THAT THEY SPRAY INTO PEOPLE'S EYES, A SHOTGUN, A M-16, AND A DUTY WEAPON AND ARE CONFIDENT WITH THEIR DISCRETION ON WHEN TO USE IT, BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO ENTRUST THEM WITH A TASER, BECAUSE YOU FEEL THEY WILL MISUSE IT? c'mon pz I have been both tased and pepper sprayed and would choose the tase anyday over the spray. :P
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jan 30, 2007 at 1:56 pm
Additionally, you mention that given the crime in Palo Alto you don't feel it is the right time to get it. So are you going to wait for the time when you feel we should have had it, and then decide to get it? I would rather be proactive for problems than reactive, but unfortunately laws are generally due to something that has already happened rather than taking proactive measures.
a resident of Evergreen Park
on Jan 30, 2007 at 2:17 pm
"My guess is that I will now forever be known in some circles as a compassionate softy."
So Palo Alto of you. You need to take some drive alongs with the cops. You might, heaven forbid, even need to defend the police in public and (even worse) among your own friends over Chardonay and Brie.
a resident of Palo Alto Hills
on Jan 30, 2007 at 2:27 pm
Look at the rates of injury and death among LEO's and thugs before and after LEA's get TASERs. THEY ALWAYS GO DOWN.
Look at the cost of workman's compensation costs for cities that aquire TASER technology. THEY GO DOWN.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jan 30, 2007 at 3:50 pm
Bring on the Tasers- they are long over due!! Would you rather be taser or shot? Or how about just doing what the officer says- the choice is yours.
a resident of Barron Park
on Jan 30, 2007 at 3:56 pm
I am sicking tired of these people who argued taser is dangerous tool. The whole debate is baseless, and even arrogant. We need to listen to professionals(which is police), not Amnesty Internationl. Equip taser to LEA is not an option, it is a must. Offices life and safety is not a subject of debate. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]
a resident of Palo Alto Hills
on Jan 31, 2007 at 3:10 am
If you look at the composition of the city's Human Relations Commission you realize that the recommendations are predetermined. If you stack the commission with liberals, the Police Department doesn't have a chance.
a resident of Ventura
on Jan 31, 2007 at 4:17 am
"The fact of the matter is that a taser is a TOOL"
A very weak fact. You could also state that "a Taser is a THING", but neither of these statements is specific enough to distinguish a Taser from a calculator and so only serve to obscure the discussion. What distinguishes a Taser from other tools is that it is intended for use in combat to incapacitate. In short, the real fact of the matter is that a Taser is a WEAPON. Any attempt to avoid that characterization of Tasers is not truly dealing with facts, and the motivation for such avoidance should be questioned.
"There are many law suits around the country where departments are being sued for not having tasers."
Can you please provide a pointer to a few of these? I haven't read of any, couldn't find any mention on taser.com, and would like to find out if they are as numerous as the lawsuits resulting from using Tasers.
"The tasers would not be used on people who simply do not comply, but rather those who do not comply and are combative."
Exactly wrong.
When the police chief first announced her intention to deploy Tasers she stated that the policy will likely be to use Tasers:
"to safely subdue a person who wasn't complying with directions from an officer,"
Web Link
In this round of the push for Tasers, the city manager says he and the police chief are still working on a policy. They have NOT publicly backed away from the original policy proposal.
"When have you ever heard of a taser being used on a pregnant woman, give me a break."
Relax - I got your break for you, right here:
Dec. 15, 2001
In Chula Vista CA, police shocked a 36-year-old pregnant woman in the back for refusing to follow orders. At the hospital, fetal heart sounds were heard during the examination. Two days later, an exam revealed that the fetus 6-month-old fetus had died.
Web Link
Nov. 23, 2004
When a Seattle police officer presented a speeding ticket to Malaika Brooks (8 months pregnant), she refused to sign it. Police then struggled to get Brooks out of her car but could not because she kept a grip on her steering wheel. So they Tasered her (3 times, on thigh and neck according to police, but she also showed arm burns). She delivered a healthy girl Jan. 31.
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Sept. 29, 2006
County sheriffs in Kansas reported that as a deputy was arresting Tianesha Robinson (18-20 weeks pregnant) during a traffic stop, she got free from a handcuff and ran off before being chased down. Because she didn't comply with an order to pull her hand from underneath her, the deputy pushed the barrel of the stun gun once against the side of her abdomen and twice against her back. A month later she suffered a miscarriage.
Web Link
These came up after only a cursory search, so there's probably far more. I wonder will the Task Force do their homework...
a resident of Ventura
on Jan 31, 2007 at 5:41 am
"Look at the rates of injury and death among LEO's and thugs before and after LEA's get TASERs. THEY ALWAYS GO DOWN."
After Tasers were fully deployed in San Jose in 2004 the number of fatal shootings by police dramatically spiked to near record levels - after a steady five-year decline! Within five months of deployment, San Jose police had fatally shot three people: more than they fatally shot in all of 2002 and 2003 combined. During 1990-2000, San Jose police averaged 2.5 fatal shootings annually. Five people were fatally shot by police in 2004 - twice the average and near a ten-year peak.
In 2005, in addition to two fatal shootings by police, there were now two deaths in custody of people who were Tasered.
This contradiction of expectations has led San Jose community organizations that initially supported Tasers to become the most vocal critics.
And the San Jose experience with Tasers is not an anomaly.
Cincinnati also found that Tasers (which the ACLU had initially supported) made things worse. The ACLU pointed out that total use-of-force incidents reported by Cincinnati police
consistently increased almost every quarter, rising from 186 incidents in the first reporting period of the review to 277 incidents for the second quarter of this year. Houston is the latest to report that shootings have not decreased, while overall use of force has increased.
It's instructive to note that while claims are made here that the Taser solves a myriad of problems (false or unsubstantiated claims), the police chief has yet to reveal what problem she thinks Tasers will solve. So why do we have a Task Force to decide if Tasers are the right solution for a problem that has yet to be defined? Something is going on that doesn't seem quite kosher...it seems either half-assed backward - or deliberately deceptive...or both.
a resident of Esther Clark Park
on Jan 31, 2007 at 9:07 am
David, I am worried about your statement. Can you move your version a bit wider? Did that have any connection between taser use and increase of gun shooting? (provide link, and fact, or reasoning). Taser might be here to solve your gun shooting concern not opposite.
And regarding the case/links you provide about taser pregnant, etc, the courts always cleared taser or police from wrongdoing. So I don't quite follow your points.
Task force, to me, is purely waste of taxpayer's money created to stir up mud, to provide political stage for some political actors to performance.
I don't follow your view at all.
a resident of Charleston Meadows
on Jan 31, 2007 at 10:22 am
Here is latest link from Google about a family lost their loved one, which taser might be able to save.
Web Link
While people are losing their life, our task force is still debating for Amnesty Int's pleasure?
a resident of Palo Alto Hills
on Jan 31, 2007 at 10:43 am
taser can't kill, ignorance and idealogy can kill.
a resident of Juana Briones School
on Jan 31, 2007 at 4:37 pm
Local law enforcement agencies using the TASER often train officers to use the weapon by actually shocking each other.
The use of the TASER on each other in training is meant to prove to the police officers that the weapon does not cause serious injury or permanent damage. For some officers, however, the TASER shock cripples them and they are left permanently damaged by the "non-lethal" stun gun.
One severely injured deputy from Utah relates what happened to him on a website for TASER-injured police officers:
"Let me tell you my experience with the TASER. I worked for 16 years as a deputy/paramedic in Davis County, Utah. We had TASER training, in which the trainers said it was a highly recommended to take a hit. They also said there was no worry as to injury, because the TASER wouldn't harm or cause any long term medical problems.
I had a 5-second ride. It was the worst experience in my life. To make a long story short, the TASER ruptured C-5,6 and C-6,7 in my neck. I have had to have my neck fused, because of the severe pain. I also have nerve damage, which has left my left triceps, chest, and back muscle paralyzed. Not to mention I can't feel with the first three fingers including my thumb and trigger finger on my right hand. They feel like fat little stumps.
I was able to bench press 350 lbs. and do push-ups all day. Now I can't do 1 push-up, and I can't even bench press the bar! I scored in the top of the physical fitness test at the department and got a day off, now I can't even pass the fitness test.
The Davis County Sheriff's department has turned its back on me. I've been fired from work for B.S. reasons. I'm on disability now, and I have to retrain in something else, at 43-years-old. It turns my stomach to think of going back to school.
My suggestion to all officers is NOT TO TAKE A HIT FROM THE TASER. You probably won't have any problems, but then again I thought that also and look what has happened to me.
Don't take the chance – it's not worth it."
a resident of Green Acres
on Feb 1, 2007 at 10:59 am
Let's assemble facts, document them and present them to the Taser committee. Let's use a long view also in the assembly of information: how many people are killed by the use of (a) guns with bullets and (b) tasers: in the USA, in CA, in towns similar to Palo Alto in size and economic composition? What percentage of communities allow guns but not tasers in their policing?
Is the purpose of tasers to reduce death from gun usage?
If it is legal for a citizen to carry tasers, why would a community prevent its police from using the same.
a resident of Charleston Meadows
on Feb 2, 2007 at 9:19 am
Do they no teach logic in school anymore? For those against tazers, citing the statistical outlier only serves to muddy the waters of collective community understanding. Yes, I could probably find many examples on the internet of police shooting the wrong person or police crashing their cars into innocent people, but no sane person would consider taking guns from the police and making them walk to your emergency call for help. Did you know that citizens can own and possess tazers? I think the issue boils down to trust. Do we trust that the police will use their tools properly and with good judgment? For those who do not know, the Palo Alto Police Department is significantly more selective in their hiring practice and provides significantly more training than the majority of other police agencies. This means better cops, who are better trained than the ones cited in negative press.
a resident of Stanford
on Feb 3, 2007 at 9:08 pm
One aspect of the Taser which I have not heard being discussed- but should be- is the mandatory use of the TaserCam system, which incorporates a camera at the base of the Taser unit, if Tasers are implemented into the local law enforcement system. It provides a clear video of up to 1.5 hours, with audio. This helps satisfy concerns of Taser abuse, and provides important criminal evidence for the police department during prosecution.
One of the problems with the many news reports of Taser use is that we don't really know the full story behind the situation. Police Officers cannot tell their side of the story without capturing the scene with a recording system. In this day and age, Police Officers shouldn't have to remain silent when technology can exonerate them.
a resident of Midtown
on Feb 8, 2007 at 4:03 am
When the issue of tasers was raised again recently by Council, the issue did not seem to be whether Palo Alto should have tasers or not; it was whether Palo Alto should apply for a grant to fund the purchase of the tasers. I got the distinct feeling this whole issue was about money. The forming of the taser committee is a political move on the part of Council who can conveniently move the decision making process onto a group of citizens.
I would have preferred that the issue of tasers for Palo Alto had been kept on the back burner for another couple of years because it is so controvercial. We should let our neighboring cities use them first to get a feel for the public's reaction.
But, true to form, our Council never saw a grant they didn't want to apply for.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Mar 27, 2007 at 8:40 am
As a member of the task force, after reviewing the questions presented by the public, I prepared some answers to the public's questions in anticipation of tonight's meeting:
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Comments are welcome there.
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Lindsay Gendron
2013 - 200 Freestyle Relay
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2014 - 7
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2012 - 5
2011 - 6
Gold: 3
2013: 200 Free
Silver: 7
2014: 400 FR, 200 Free, 200 FR
2012: 500 Free, 200 Free, 1650 Free
Bronze: 9
2011: 200 Free, 800 FR, 400 FR
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- Competed in all five fall collegiate meets for Tennessee. As always, participated in a variety of events, especially the 200 freestyle
- Won the 200 freestyle all five times during the fall. In all, earned eight individual event victories during the first semester, getting two wins in the 500 freestyle and one in the 400 IM.
- Recorded NCAA B-cut times in three events during the fall: 200 freestyle (1:44.79), 500 freestyle (4:44.18), and the 400 IM (4:17.89).
- Competed at the AT&T Winter Nationals, where she finished fourth in the 200-yard freestyle
- Against Missouri and Virginia Tech, she won the 200 freestyle with an NCAA B-cut time of 1:47.96 and won the 200 IM with a career best time of 2:02.96. She also finished second in the 100 butterfly with an NCAA b-cut time of 53.91.
- Finished second in the 200 freestyle, with an NCAA B-cut time of 1:47.01, and in the 1000 freestyle against Georgia.
- Completed a noteworthy day against Florida with NCAA B-cut times in the 200 freestyle (1:45.59), the 500 freestyle (4:44.63), and the 100 butterfly (53.60), which also serves as a career best. She won all three of the events she competed in.
- On night one, the relay team of Gendron, Faith Johnson, Mary Griffith and Harper Bruens secured a fourth place finish in the 800 Free Relay
- Gendron just missed the A final of the 500 free, but she managed to win the B final with a B-cut time of 4:39.04.
- Along with Cherelle Thompson, Johnson and Bruens, Gendron earned a silver medal in the 200 Free Relay with an A-cut time of 1:28.37
- Gendron also won silver in the 200 Free, swimming an A-cut and season-high time of 1:43.35, the lone Lady Vol medal of the night
- A blistering 51.62 butterfly leg from Gendron in the 400 Medley Relay helped to keep UT on the podium, earning the bronze medal with 3:30.19 time
- On the final night, Gendron wrapped up her final SEC tournament with a silver medal, winning the silver medal in the 400 Free Relay with Kate McNeilis, Johnson and Bruens in 3:12.76
- Won a bronze individually in both the 200 freestyle and 200 butterfly.
- Individually placed 8th in the 100 freestyle, finishing in the A finals in all three events for a second consecutive season.
- Set school records in her three individual events: the 100 free (47.66), 200 free (1:42.55) and the 200 fly (1:53.05). She only swam the 200 fly four times competitively in her career, at the Last Chance Meet and at NCAAs
- Helped the Lady Vols finish in 5th place in the 200 freestyle relay, 6th place in the 400 medley relay, 7th in the 400 freestyle relay and 11th place in the 800 freestyle relay.
- Finished career with 25 All-America honors, finishing with the maximum seven All-America honors as a junior and senior
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2013 All-SEC
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- Earned SEC Swimmer of the Week twice during the season as she helped lead the Lady Vols to an 8-1 record in team competition
- Opened the season against UNC Wilmington, placing 1st in 50 free (23.98)
- Helped lead the Lady Vols to their first dual match win over Georgia since 1989. She won the 200 freestyle, the 500 freestyle and then took second in the 400 IM in 4:12.93, the second-fastest time in program history in an event she has not swam often
- Won the 500 freestyle in five dual meets this season: Kentucky/Indiana, Ohio State, Virginia Tech, Georgia and Florida
- Finished first in the 200 freestyle six times during the whole season, including in the prelims and finals of the SEC Championships
- Broke numerous career bests during the season: 100 free (48.15) in the SEC prelims, 200 free (1:43.22), 100 breast (1:10.49), 100 fly against Vandy (54.52) and 400 IM (4:12.93)
- Earned her first individual gold, coming from behind to win the 200 freestyle in a career best 1:43.22
- Swam the anchor leg in the silver winning and school-record setting 200 free relay team (1:27.13)
- Also part of the school-record record setting 400 and 800 free relay teams, both of which came in third at the meet
- Set a new school record in the 500 freestyle (4:36.71), beating her former time by almost two seconds
- Earned All-SEC honors
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- Reached the A Final of all three of her individual events: placed eighth in 100 free final (48.56)...Placed fifth in 200 free (1:43.77)...Placed eighth in 500 free (4:41.69)
- Also swam on the 400 freestyle relay team that finished fourth and the 800 freestyle relay team that earned honorable mention All-America honors
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- Racked up five All-America honors at the NCAA Championships, highlighted by top eight finishes in the 400y medley relay, 200y free and 400y free relay
- The 400y MR (3:29.92) and 400y FR (3:14.51) marks are both Tennessee records, finishing third and seventh in the events, respectively
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- Was also on the 10th-place 800y free relay that touched in at 7:04.60
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- Claimed silver medals in the 200y free, 500y free and 1650y free at the meet, as her 500y free time of 4:38.74 is a Lady Vol record, along with her 1,000y split time of 9:37.36 in the mile being one too
- The 400y and 800y free relays each notched third
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- Was a force in free events and on relays, winning multiple events in every dual meet or invitational she competed in
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- Also won the 200y free `B' final and had top-16 finishes in two relay events at NCAAs
- Was a member of the UT and SEC record setting 400y MR at SECs
- Earned First Team All-SEC accoladesAlso swam on two third-place relays (400y FR, 800y FR) and grabbed third in the 200y free and fourth in the 1650y free at SECs
- Her 500y free and 800y free relay times are both UT records
- Won the 500y free in every dual meet she competed in the event on the season
- Won three events at Florida and Kentucky and against Virginia
- Won the 200y and 500y free events versus Georgia
- Tabbed SEC Freshman Swimmer of the Week twice on the season
- Earned national recognition, being tabbed CollegeSwimming.com's Counsilman Hunsaker Division I National Collegiate Swimmer of the Week for her performance against UGA
- Swept her events against Arkansas and Louisville
- Never finished below second in any individual event at every dual meet
- Named to the SEC All-Freshman Team
- Also earned a spot the SEC Freshman Academic Honor Roll.
- Joined the swimming and diving team at Normal (Ill.) Community High School during her senior year
- During the first three years of her prep career, she swam exclusively for her club team, Redbird Swim
- Was an Illinois State Champion in the 100y free (50.54) and finished runner-up in the 200y IM
- Broke Normal's 50y free record in her high school debut
- Named by SwimmingWorld Magazine as a five-star recruit
- Posted Olympic Trials qualifying times
- Was a USA Swimming Scholastic All-American.
- Majoring in marketing with international business
- Names her club coach, Charlie Yourd, as her biggest swimming influence
- Former teammates competing at the collegiate level include Emily Hanson of Michigan, Caitlin Hamilton of Purdue and Monica Drake of Arizona
- Has two brothers, Jacob and Jason
- Lindsay Danielle Gendron, daughter of Jeff and Karen Gendron, was born Oct. 16, 1992, in Bloomington, Ill.
- Recipient of the A. Dean & Ann Skadberg Fund for Student-Athlete Academic Excellence


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The Slamm organization held their second "Soema na Basi" event today in Paramaribo, Suriname. The first event took place on August 26 in the same place, and featured the likes of Ismael Londt. This time around, Ismael Londt wasn't on the card, which was quite a surprise since he was on the poster. Nevertheless, some of the best up and coming fighters out of the Netherlands participated. including members of Team Slamm.
Jairzinho Rozenstruik, fresh off a KO win over up and coming Romanian heavyweight Benjamin Adegbuyi last month, took a decision over Jan Siersema to win the Soema na Basi Heavyweight Title. Jairzinho has put together a nice little streak, something I didn't expect after he lost to Roman Kleibl in May. Full results below:
Soema na Basi Heavyweight Title fight
Jairzinho Rozenstruik def. Jan Siersema by decision.
Joery Smans def. Angelo Simson by decision.
Miles Simson def. Ilyasse Ghazaouat by decision.
Amin Chakoud def. Anthony Nekrui by decision.
Anthony Kane def. Nezar Regales by decision.
Rigilio Bodie def. Xavier Benedito by decision.


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Positioned on the ridge with magnificent views across the water to Devonport and North Head is this superb Parnell property.
Synonymous with Auckland's heritage, it is architecturally designed by the Victorian master Thomas Mahoney. Dilworth Tce was the desired address for Auckland's Victorian gentry.
The design reflects the English tradition of siting houses on a rise with a main garden facade overlooking the view. Rows of multi-storey housing facing the sea were a feature of English coastal towns and generally were not found in the colonies.
Designed by Mahoney, who also designed Auckland's Customhouse, Dilworth Tce was built in then-seaside Parnell in 1899. The terraces were sought-after homes for Auckland's well-to-do, but as land below was reclaimed and soot from coal-fired trains sullied the air from about 1919, Dilworth Tce deteriorated into a slum, filled with overcrowded tenement flats, sly grog shops and brothels. Some estimates say that after World War II, there were up to 300 people living there in cramped conditions.
After Dilworth Tce became registered with the Historic Places Trust, the freehold interest was acquired and another round of renovations started - this time restoring the eight terraces into individual homes.
Today, No 1 Dilworth Tce rests behind a low fence and well maintained hedge. Bathed in sun, this beautiful home of 356sqm is filled with warmth, charm and restful living that extends to a walled, west-facing manicured courtyard and north-facing balconies.
The home is a delight to enter, from its well-maintained exterior to comfortable interior. The large, minimalist kitchen is comfortable and uncluttered. The spacious living room with a low built-in bookcase and fireplace, opens out on to a courtyard surrounded by a manicured hedge.
Across the hall is a second lounge, which also contains a fireplace, and built-in bookshelf and cabinet. An open door leads through to a dining room which, in keeping with the Victorian design, contains a high shelf which stretches across the entire wall.
The formal dining room, like both living rooms, contains a fireplace and built-in cabinet. Polished timber floors line each room, reminding guests of this house's Edwardian past.
1 Dilworth Tce, Parnell
Four bedrooms, three and a half bathrooms and three-car garage.
Size: Dilworth Tce's total land area is 5486sq m, with each property having exclusive use of private courtyards and gardens. House 356sq m.
Price: Still to be settled.
Features: Beautifully restored three-level Victorian townhouse, available for the first time as an individual home since construction in 1899. Set in park-like grounds with sea and city views.


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Hey all. New to the site and wanted to post the build I'm working on.
I've been dreaming of building up a high-end system that I could not only game on, but also stream, edit videos and it use to run some game servers at the LAN events I run/attend. Well, this system is turning out to be a beast.
CPU: Core i7-3960X
Motherboard: ASUS Sabertooth X79
GPU: 2 x ASUS GTX680's
RAM: 64GB Kingston HyperX Predator
SSD: 2 x Kingston HyperX SSD's in RAID0
Storage: 4 x WD 1TB Raptors in RAID0
Cooling: Corsair H100
Case: Enermax FULMO
You may have heard of Bob Stewart over at BS MODS (http://www.bsmods.com/). His work has been featured in CPU Magazine, multiple websites and he's done a lot of work for vendors at shows like CES and PAX. His painting skills are unmatched and I knew I had to have him paint this case.
I told Bob I knew I wanted an old school hot rod type of theme. I wanted a metallic silver base with a candy purple flames. Beyond that, I let him run free. The pics below are the final results of his paint work.
Here's what the case looked like before he started
Here's the PSU before paint
Time to lay down the base coat of paint
As you can see, its got a great metallic flake to it
Now time to custom mix the candy purple
Red & Blue makes Purple
Now that the purple is mixed, its time to layout the flames and paint
Bob figured out a custom way to paint the acrylic so the side panel with the window could also have the flames
Here's the power supply painted with the silver and flames
And now for the final pics of the completed paint job
As you can see, BS Mods did an excellent job with the painting of this case. I'm currently waiting for the motherboard and video cards to arrive. When they do, I'll post the progress of the build along with the final pics.
Thanks for taking a look at the build.
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Hey there Havok!
Glad to see you've joined the modding world. Welcome....
Hopefully everyone here will go easy on you. There are a lot of awesome modders cruising these forums from all over the world.
I know I can't wait to see the hardware go into this case. If you ever have any questions or need advice there are plenty of people here willing to help and give input.
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Nice case , very similar to the cooler master CM692 , may be are made at the same factory,
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|Fiscal Policy Implications of the 2008 Elections
|Financial Rescue; More for AIG; Auto Industry Request
|Stimulus Bill in November?
|FY 2009 Appropriations: What Now?
|What's the Future of PAYGO?
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Budget Process: Step-by-Step
July 30, 2008: President signs housing recovery legislation
Sept. 7, 2008: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac seized by federal government
Sept. 19: 2008: Treasury Dept. announces it will provide guarantees for money market mutual funds
Sept. 20, 2008: Bush Administration proposes $700 billion financial rescue package
Sept. 30, 2008: President signs stopgap funding measure (HR 2638) that includes full-year appropriations for the Departments of Defense, Homeland Security, and Veterans Affairs; continues funding for other programs at last year's levels through March 6, 2009; and includes a $25 billion loan to the auto industry (which has yet to be disbursed).
Oct. 1: Senate passes revised financial rescue legislation (after initial defeat by House on 9/29) including increase in FDIC insurance, renewable energy incentives, AMT relief, tax extenders, and disaster relief (HR1424) JCT estimates CBO estimates
Oct. 3: House passes and President signs financial rescue package
Oct. 14: Treasury announces it will use $250 billion (of the appropriated $700 billion) to purchase stock in major banks AND Treasury releases final deficit figure for FY 2008: $455 billion.
Oct. 20: Fed Chairman Bernanke endorses, in principle, enactment of a second economic stimulus bill
Nov. 4: Barack Obama elected President; Democrats widen congressional majority (analysis below)
Nov. 7: Senator Robert C. Byrd announced he is stepping down as Senate Appropriations Committee Chairman
Nov. 10: Treasury and Federal Reserve announce additional aid for AIG (see below for details)
Nov. 17: Congress reconvenes for "lame duck" session (possible action on economic stimulus bill -- analysis below)
Jan. 6: House and Senate convene for 111th Congress
Jan 20: Presidential Inauguration
Late January: CBO's annual budget and economic outlook (for fiscal years FY 2009 - 2019)
February/early March: Congress likely to enact FY 2009 supplemental appropriations and economic stimulus bill (see below for details)
March 6: Funding for much of the Federal Government expires under the terms of the current continuing resolution (see article below)
March/April: President Obama to transmit FY 2010 budget proposal to Congress
April/May: Congressional action on a 5-year or 10-year Budget Resolution
Fiscal Policy Implications of the 2008 Elections
--Democrats increased their Senate margin from 51-49 to at least 56 seats (possibly more, depending on which political party Sen. Lieberman will caucus with and the outcome of the races in Alaska, Minnesota, and Georgia).
--This new Senate margin, empowers "moderate Republicans" with leverage; their votes could give Democrats a working supermajority of 60 votes to overcome GOP filibusters on major votes. Moderate Republicans who have in the past voted with Democrats on budgetary matters include Susan Collins (Maine); Norm Coleman (Minn); Olympia Snowe (Maine); and Arlen Specter (PA). (Add Lieberman to this category if he switches parties.)
--Alternatively, since Democrats do not have a built-in 60-vote supermajority, we may well see an active use of filibuster-proof "budget reconciliation" procedures to move Obama Administration budget initiatives through Congress. (Budget Reconciliation procedures allow budgetary legislation to be considered under strict time limits, thereby preventing a filibuster.) A difficulty for Senate Democrats, however, is that they have actively sought to limit the use of Reconciliation procedures to deficit reduction measures -- while most of the major upcoming budgetary legislation (stimulus measures, health care etc.) would increase deficits.
--On the House side, with the Democratic majority increasing to at least 255, the fiscally conservative Blue Dog Democrats will continue to hold critical leverage over fiscal policy issues. The Blue Dogs have 49 Members in the current Congress.
--The Blue Dogs have been ardent supporters of the House PAYGO rules (see the article below: What's the Future of PAYGO).
--In early October, then candidate-Obama, took time out from campaigning to speak with Blue Dog Coalition leaders: Mike Ross (AR); John Tanner (FL); and Allen Boyd (FL). Ross told the Washington Post, "He said he (Obama)...wanted to work with us....He also recognized that we had the numbers to block or clear" legislation.
Financial Rescue; More for AIG; Auto Industry Request
Click here for an overview and timeline of: the July 30th housing rescue legislation; the September 7th seizure of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac; the October 3rd passage of the $700 billion financial rescue package; the October 14th Treasury announcement of Federal plans to buy equity in America's major banks; the Nov. 10th announcement of additional relief for AIG; and the relief request from the auto industry.
The Concord Coalition's overview of the crisis also addresses the budget impact of the recent measures. While there is no way at this juncture to make an accurate projection of the FY 2009 deficit, it is fair to say that it will substantially exceed $750 billion--as estimated by CBO Director Orszag--and could go significantly higher than $1 trillion.
Adding to the complexity, OMB and CBO may score various actions differently. For example, CBO will incorporate the financial activities of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in the FY 2009 Federal Budget, whereas the current OMB Director, Jim Nussle, has said OMB will not do so (although this could change under the new Administration).
Regardless of how the FY 2009 and 2010 annual deficits are calculated, the real impact on the U.S. economy can best be measured by examining increases in the federal debt--the amount of money the Federal government has to borrow to finance Fannie and Freddie, the financial rescue plan, the AIG rescue, and relief for the auto industry.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (CA) and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (NV) requested in a letter on Saturday that Treasury Secretary Paulson consider giving "temporary assistance to the auto industry" as part of the government's $700 billion authorized for government purchase of troubled assets (TARP). No specific amount of assistance was recommended by Pelosi and Reid.
Stimulus Bill in November?
Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke told the House Budget Committee at an October 20, 2008 hearing it is "appropriate" for Congress to consider a second stimulus measure to boost the economy.
"With the economy likely to be weak for several quarters, and with some risk of a protracted slowdown, consideration of a fiscal package by the Congress at this juncture seems appropriate," Bernanke told the Committee.
Bernanke continued, "Should the Congress choose to undertake fiscal action, certain design principles may be helpful....Any fiscal package should be well-targeted....Any program should be designed, to the extent possible, to limit longer-term effects on the federal government's structural budget deficit....If the Congress proceeds with a fiscal package, it should consider including measures to help improve access to credit by consumers, homebuyers, businesses, and other borrowers. Such actions might be particularly effective at promoting economic growth and job creation." (emphasis added)
Congress is scheduled to reconvene on November 17th for consideration of a possible (second) stimulus package. However, House Majority Leader Hoyer has cautioned that the "Lame Duck" session may not occur if a stimulus package has not been worked out with the Bush Administration. As reported in The Hill, Hoyer said "Clearly there's no point in us doing something if the administration is going to take the position that they're not going to sign something."
Nevertheless, the economic numbers released last week (unemployment at 6.5%) would seem to put pressure on the White House and congressional leaders to come to agreement on a near-term package.
The first economic stimulus bill this year was signed into law on February 13, 2008 and cost $152 billion (HR 5140). The bipartisan package provided tax rebates for individuals and business incentives.
The House of Representatives passed a second $61 billion economic stimulus bill (HR 7110) in late September. However, a similar bill (S. 3604) failed in the Senate when proponents fell 8 votes short of the 60 votes needed to shut down a Republican filibuster. The President had threatened to veto both the House and Senate bills. Veto threat: House Bill Veto Threat: Senate bill
Both stimulus bills would have extended unemployment benefits, and provided funding for infrastructure projects, state Medicaid programs, and food stamps.
It is also likely that proponents of a new stimulus bill will seek aid for the States.
FY 2009 Appropriations: What Now?
On September 30th, President Bush signed into law a funding measure (HR 2638) to keep the government operating into the new fiscal year -- FY 2009 -- which began October 1st.
The measure is actually a hybrid of an "omnibus" appropriations bill and a "continuing resolution":
--it includes detailed, full-year appropriations measures for the Departments of Defense, Homeland Security, and Veterans Affairs; and
--it includes stopgap funding through March 6, 2009 for Health and Human Services (HHS), and all other departments and agencies of government, at FY 2008 levels.
In addition, the bill also includes $23 billion for disaster relief, and authorizes $25 billion in loans to the auto industry to retool and develop more fuel efficient vehicles.
The stopgap provision does not provide inflation adjustments for the covered agencies. However, some specific programs did receive increases: the low income home energy assistance program (LIHEAP) received a $2.5 billion increase over '08; Pell Grants for higher education received $2.5 billion over '08; and the WIC program received $1 billion over '08 to assist with nutrition for new mothers and their children.
Because the stopgap funding expires, Congress will have to enact an FY 2009 continuing and supplemental appropriations measure no later than March 6, 2009.
This year's appropriations process was one of the worst on record in terms of following the regular order. Only one of twelve appropriations bill made it to the House Floor during the 2008 session. There are two reasons for the disruptions in the regular process:
First, President Bush threatened to veto any appropriations bills that exceeded his budget request, and Democrats--as reflected in the Budget Resolution--called for nearly $25 billion more than the President requested.Second, House Republicans were attempting to amend appropriations bills with off-shore oil drilling amendments, strongly opposed by many Democrats. On June 26, House Appropriations Chairman David Obey (D-WI) suspended markup of the Labor-HHS-Education appropriations bill when Republicans attempted to substitute drilling language for the labor, health, and education provisions. However, in the end Democrats yielded on the drilling issue and let an annual ban on offshore drilling expire as of September 30, 2008 (although it could be reinstated in some form next year).
Summary: Continuing Resolution
Summary: Disaster Relief Package
Summary: Defense Appropriations
Summary: Homeland Security Appropriations
Summary: Military Construction and Veterans Affairs Appropriations
What's the Future of PAYGO?
In 1990, the Bush Administration and Congressional Democrats negotiated the first of three 1990's deficit reduction agreements that led to budget surpluses by the end of the decade.
A centerpiece of that "Budget Summit" agreement was the enactment of a new Budget Enforcement Act of 1990 that included: (1) a "pay-as-you-go" requirement for new tax cuts and new entitlement spending;and (2) caps on discretionary spending for the subsequent 5 years.
The "pay-as-you-go" requirement--now called PAYGO--was a straightforward requirement that any new tax cuts or new entitlement spending have to be offset by revenue increases or mandatory (entitlement) spending cuts. It was enforced by an automatic "sequester" mechanism that would trigger automatic budget cuts (including Medicare cuts) in the event that Congress failed to enact offsets. (Similarly, the caps on discretionary spending were enforced by automatic across-the-board cuts in discretionary programs.)
Enforcement of the 1990s PAYGO requirement was suspended in cases of war or adoption of a congressional resolution recognizing "low economic growth." (Note that if the 1990s PAYGO law was reinstated, it would very likely not take effect until after the current recessionary period.)
The bipartisan PAYGO requirement was later extended in 1993, and again in 1997.
However, the Bush Administration -- in order to enact the massive tax cut legislation of 2001 -- included provisions to circumvent and effectively repeal PAYGO.
Following the mid-term elections of 2006, when Democrats became the majority party in Congress, one of their early priorities was to reestablish PAYGO. The Bush Administration and many congressional Republicans were, however, adamantly opposed to reenactment of the 1990s PAYGO law, believing it would hinder extension of the tax cuts due to expire in 2010. Consequently, congressional Democrats adopted PAYGO, but only as an internal rule of the Congress -- lacking the teeth of automatic budget cuts to enforce the requirement.
The House fiscally conservative "Blue Dog" Democrats have been the strongest advocates for the PAYGO rules, but with strong congressional Republican and White House opposition, the House and Senate PAYGO rules have been frequently waived (for example, AMT relief, GI Bill, and Tax Extenders).
What now?
- During the campaign, President-elect Obama pledged to "reinstate PAYGO rules." His website says that "Obama and Biden believe that a critical step in restoring fiscal discipline is enforcing pay-as-you-go (PAYGO) budgeting rules which require new spending commitments or tax changes to be paid for by cuts to other programs or new revenue." Moreover, in a Senate Floor speech prior to voting on the $700 billion fiscal rescue package, Obama said, "Runaway spending and record deficits are not how families run their budgets, and it can't be how Washington handles people's tax dollars....It's time to return to the fiscal responsibility we had in the 1990s. We need to go through the budget, get rid of programs that don't work, and make the ones we need work better and cost less. With less money flowing into the Treasury, some useful programs or policies might need to be delayed in the years ahead."
- However, reinstating the PAYGO discipline of the 1990s will encounter resistance on both sides of the aisle.
- On the Republican side, there is strong opposition to the 1990s PAYGO law because it would require offsets (i.e. revenue increases or spending cuts) to pay for the extension of the Bush Tax Cuts. Republicans generally believe that the Bush tax cuts should be "assumed" to continue despite their statutory expiration at the end of 2010.
- Similarly, the Obama campaign, while calling for "reinstating PAYGO," does not believe that their proposed middle class tax cuts should have to be offset. Rather, under their version of PAYGO, the Bush tax cuts are assumed to continue beyond 2010, and middle class tax cuts, healthcare reform, and other initiatives would be "offset" by rolling back portions of the Bush tax cuts.
- However, under the 1990s PAYGO law, the budget baseline, or starting point, would assume expiration of the tax cuts in 2010; and any extension of the Bush tax cuts or alternative types of tax cuts would have to be fully offset. This traditional (1990s) approach to PAYGO is likely to be supported by the fiscally conservative Blue Dog Democrats in the House, and like-minded Senators. (see election analysis above)
Recent Budget Documents
Concord Coalition: Fiscal Policy Beyond Election Day: Nine Challenges For '09
Federal Reserve Release on increased assistance for AIG
Pelosi / Reid letter to Treasury on Auto Industry
GAO: The Upcoming Transition--GAO's Efforts to Assist the 111th Congress and the Next Administration
JCT: Estimates of Federal Tax Expenditures
Concord Coalition: Blog: The (Tab)ulation
Bernanke October 20 Testimony to House Budget Committee
CBO: Cost Estimate of Financial Rescue Package
JCT: Budget Effects of Tax Provisions in Financial Rescue Package
OMB: Statement of Administration Policy on Financial Rescue Package
Treasury / OMB: Final FY 2008 Spending, Revenues, Deficit


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Each year, the Catholic and Dominican Institute hosts an annual
Philosophy Workshop at the College.
The Second Annual Philosophy Workshop: Thomas Aquinas and the
Mind/Body Problem was held at Mount Saint Mary College from June
21–24, 2012.
This event was co-sponsored by the Catholic and Dominican
Institute at the Mount and the Thomistic Institute at the Dominican
House of Studies in Washington, DC.
Contemporary philosophies of mind commonly approach the problem
of the relation of the mind to the body by recourse to a variety of
modern theories (e.g., physicalism vs. dualism, eliminativism vs.
reductive materialism). The thinking of Aquinas, however, presents
an elegant and profound alternative to much that is currently on
offer. How does Aquinas understand the human person both as body
and as soul? What is his hylomorphic conception of the human being?
How does his study of the diverse faculties of the human person
(intellectual powers, free will, passions, physiological living
processes) permit an illuminating account of human life? This
conference explored Aquinas' understanding of the person by a
diversity of philosophical approaches, asking the question of the
perennial relevance of his contribution.
The first day of the conference was devoted especially to
graduate students, either in philosophy or adjacent disciplines.
The second and third days of the event combined presentations by
philosophers with times of discussion and debate.
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From June 23-26, 2011 the Catholic and Dominican Institute, in
conjunction with the Thomistic Institute of the Dominican House of
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Thomas Aquinas and Contemporary Philosophy.
The workshop brought together scholars and students interested
in philosophy, especially the work of Thomas Aquinas. The four-day
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Presenters were Fr. James Brent, OP (The Catholic University of
America); Fr. Lawrence Dewan, OP (Dominican Institute of Ottawa);
Dr. Alfred Freddoso (University of Notre Dame); Dr. Gyula Klima
(Fordham University); Dr. Joshua Hochschild (Mount St. Mary's
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The study of the universe using TeV gamma-ray photons, which are about 1 trillion times more energetic than visible light, is a rather exotic branch of astronomical science. Some of the known cosmic TeV gamma-ray sources are pulsar wind nebulae, active galactic nuclei and supernova remnants. Our current knowledge of the nature of these objects and how they produce TeV gamma-ray photons are direct results of astronomical measurements of the TeV photons that these objects produce. However, the number of photons that reach earth from cosmic gamma-ray sources are very low. Therefore, a large effective area and a high duty cycle are key features to consider in building TeV survey gamma-ray observatories. The detectors with a large effective area and high duty cycle have a greater probability of detecting the
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Your last championship is 21 years old -- a generation. The Giants have been to 3 (winning 2), the Cowboys have been to 3 (winning 3), and the Eagles have been to 1 (losing) since then. I'll even throw in the former NFC East Cardinals in, they went to a Super Bowl and lost since then.
You made the playoffs TWICE in the last decade.
You haven't won the division since 1999. Bill Clinton was President.
Your coach and QB carousel has been too confusing to keep track of since Snyder bought the team.
Until proven otherwise your once-proud franchise is a joke.
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I don't think RG3 is a real NFL QB. He looks more like a wild cat QB/track star playing the QB position.
We'll show the Redskins who owns the NFC east next Sunday. Can't wait!
With Dallas coming up, this game worries me a bit. Trap game?
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Original post made by Cindy Cross, Parkside, on May 19, 2011
The recent news that former Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger fathered a child while married to Maria Shriver was a shock. From the outside, Schwarzenegger and Maria Shriver looked like a happy couple. Beneath the chrome is a man who had denied allegations that he groped and sexually harassed women on movie sets in the past.
Born in Austria, Schwarzenegger was hoping to follow in the footsteps of political icon Ronald Reagan. What better way to secure political relevance than to marry a Kennedy? With no political experience under his belt, Schwarzenegger couldn't bank on his celebrity alone to win over California voters.
Reagan, as we all know, was a B-movie actor who went on to hold the highest position in the land. Schwarzenegger's interview on CBS's show 60 Minutes revealed an interest in amending the Constitution to further his political career:
He is ineligible to run for president. Would he like to be able to? Would he like to see an amendment to the Constitution?
"Yes. Absolutely," says Schwarzenegger. "I think, you know, because why not? Like with my way of thinking, you always shoot for the top. But it's not something that I am preoccupied with. I am not thinking one single minute about that. Because there's so many things I have to do in California, and my promise was to straighten out the mess in California."
Besides Schwarzenegger, the American political scene is full of shady characters. Consider the following*:
• President Bill Clinton's fall from grace with the Monica Lewinski fiasco.
• Rep. Mario Biaggi (D-NY): In 1988 convicted of obstructing justice, tax evasion, conspiracy, extortion, and accepting bribes.
• Rep. Albert Bustamante (D-TX): In 1983 convicted of racketeering and accepting an illegal gratuity.
• Sen. Larry Craig (R-Idaho):In 2007, Craig had been arrested for lewd conduct in the men's restroom at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport, and entered a guilty plea to a lesser charge of disorderly conduct. Allegations of cocaine use and sex with male teenage congressional pages by unnamed congressmen were pursued by investigators and journalists in 1982, but were eventually dropped.
• Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA): Accessory to male prostitute who ran a whore house in their Washington townhouse.
• Rep. Gerald Kleczka (D-WI): Convicted of DUI in 1987; arrested for DUI in 1990 and 1995.
• Rep. Dan Rostenkowski (D-IL): Illegally converted official funds to his personal use and mail fraud; accused in 1996 of embezzling $700,000 from the federal government, he was charged with 13 of the original 17 counts against him. He went to prison after serving in Congress. He is now back in Washington working as a lobbyist.
• Rep. James Moran (D-VA): Charged with spousal abuse, assault and battery.
• Rep. Mel Reynolds (D-IL): In 1995 was convicted of having sex with a minor and obstructing justice.
How many decent politicians do we have in America? The minute we find one, and revere him or her, they come crashing down with news of impropriety. Should we hold them to such high standards, or bring them down to the level of the average American--warts and all?
*The list is much longer. Go to www.wwco.com for the full listing.
a resident of Mission Park
on May 20, 2011 at 12:10 am
You missed the boat with this one, Cindy, primarily because you could have named all the morality-legislating Republican sleezeballs who have been found over the years to be going over to the 'dark side', but for some reason you didn't. Are you feeling intimidated by the right-wing honkers on these posts? I understand if that is the case, as they are a pretty frightening lot. But still, a blogger wannabee, if she believes in her craft, should look for courage.
Larry Craig, for example -- and the only Republican you name -- is most interesting not merely because he turned out to be a homosexual, but that for years he ran a virulently anti-gay crusade as part of his need to appeal to all the other closeted, repressed, gay, right-wing fascists in Ida-ho but Ida-rather-sheep.
It's not so much the fall, Cindy. No one is perfect. It is when the fallen reveals that he who has been riding the rails of hypocrisy -- cruelly, and at other people's expense -- has been doing so for all of his political life. My strong hunch is that if you look more closely at the list of fallen -- the Republican molester of young pages in Florida, the New York Republican who was advertising himself on ebay, or even the gay prostitute fake journalist George Bush was so friendly with and called upon for a question virtually every one of the 4 press conferences he gave over eight years -- you'll find a theme of hypocrisy which compounds in multiples the seriousness of the transgressions.
Barney Frank, on the other hand, but for the same reason, is not so interesting. He wasn't cheating on a wife or family, for one thing, he was already out of the closet, and he never campaigned on a holier-than-thou anti-gay crusade. But that really is the distinguishing feature when considering Dems v. Repubs. One is open and honest; the other closeted, hate-filled, self-loathing -- all prime ingredients of the fascist personality.
a resident of Downtown
on May 20, 2011 at 6:13 am
Our highest elected state official in California is boinking his housemaid, and hiding the effects, a child, from his own wife.
But please, Barney Frank is no better, a pervert versus a sociopath liar, both are messed up.
Par for government.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 20, 2011 at 8:08 am
You forgot to mention Spitzer, former NY governor who was all against prostitution and then got caught with a prostitute, spending over two hours with her on Valentine's day! And now he gets a gig on TV, unbelievable!
But the Arnold thing is worse. He got his wife and his maid pregnant around the same time, since the kids were born days apart. And he is supposed to be a republican, who are supposed to be for "family values."
And then Palin issues a statement criticizing Arnold.... has she forgotten her unwed teen pregnant daughter who is now making money because of it?
Republicans are hypocrites! Democrats are getting their share of scandals but at least they do not run with "family values" campaigns
a resident of Parkside
on May 20, 2011 at 9:57 am
billy-you forgot to mention that Dems consider their immoral dalliances to be resume enhancements. Who else but someone like Ted Kennedy could be directly responsible for his mistresses death, only to later run for re-election.
a resident of Downtown
on May 20, 2011 at 10:10 am
The only thing Arnold proved is that he is male, got his opportunity, and took it. No different than 95% of men. If Maria had been taking care of business he wouldn't have dined out elsewhere.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 20, 2011 at 10:15 am
Cindy you need to find more relevancy before you engage your mouth or fingers. What's with listing all the criminals. I saw a marriage counselor on TV yesterday say 25 years...they had a successful marriage ! ! Arnold's biggest crime was acting like a Kennedy ! ! ! Shall we start with Maria's Uncle Jack...US President; of course her Uncle Teddy a US Senator was a serial philanderer for decades; and Maria's Grandpa, Ambassador Joe Kennedy who played with Hollywood starlets and even brought them home to Hyannis Port. Maria's Grandma Rose taught all the Kennedy females to turn their eyes, keep silent and support your man. Maria's Mother Eunice (Pres Jack K sister) told Maria when Arnold thought about running in the recall 'he's going to run, get over it, and start campaigning'. Kennedy women have always 'lived with it'...it's sex Cindy...not a crime! Although Uncle Jack had many escorted in and out of the WhiteHouse, which is what made Clinton think he could copy JFK.
The next generation of Kennedy men are in play now...about 2 years ago you remember the 'babysitter' situation with Bobby's son..with his family babysitter ! ! Maria had carried out her role as a Kennedy woman until now....which has more to do with her stage of life than anything. She didn't want the delay of Gov wife, but served her time, and now wants like she has all along, to do her own more independent work, ironically in women's transisitions...this is not new for her. Also, I think she wanted to wait until the children were old enough to understand divorce better.
Becasuse of the extremely excessive and extremely public Kennedy men's sexual excapades that she watched, Grandmother and Aunts stand silently by, she really didn't want to be another Kennedy women living through the PUBLIC EXPOSE'...which is different than living it SILENTLY.
CINDY, you really lost any credibility you might have had, dragging in criminals, sexual deviants, etc. etc. SO NOT relevant, this is plain old secret sex, although most Kennedy sex wound up not being very secret. AND, by law, the husband of a married women is the child's father...happens up and down most streets in America...Pleasanton too ! (Barney Frank, Larry Craig, Dem Spitzer & his orchestrated, convoluted train ride prostitute,John Edwards who would have been the DEM candidate last time,and the MAIL thief Dem Ways&Means Chair Dan Rostenkowski???...please Cindy, try to be more relevant !
a resident of Vintage Hills
on May 20, 2011 at 10:32 am
Rita, Maria and the other woman had children five days apart. Seems Maria was in the kitchen, and Arnold was filling up on seconds in the pantry.
a resident of Downtown
on May 20, 2011 at 2:02 pm
a resident of another community
on May 21, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Hmmmm thinks adultry is the same as teen pregnancy. Teens sleeping together is one thing a husband cheating on his wife and children is a very diffent one.
Rita do you really think this is the wife's fault cuz she wasn't keeping him happy... OH PLEASE the only thing that could keep a man like that happy is if he could sleep with himself.
Face it, it speaks of character or lack of it and that is all.
a resident of Danville
on May 27, 2011 at 6:02 pm
Rita, you just set women back 100 years. So its a wifes fault if her husband strays. Oh please, you could never keep a sleezy spouse happy. Get real, you sound like a real cupcake.
a resident of Danbury Park
on May 27, 2011 at 7:14 pm
As a male I can tell you that if not happy we all wander. Don't believe anything your husband, boyfriend, friend tell you because we all stay if not taken care of regardless of what we tell you.


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forum: Food & Drink
#21691 Wed 10 Apr 13 3:16pm
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Cabbage rolls, and a couple pieces of fresh bread.
#21692 Thu 11 Apr 13 10:31am
Re: Whats For Supper?
Visitors tonight, so roast chicken, green beans, roast Brussels sprouts, rice, gravy and mixed berry crumble with ice cream for pudding.
#21693 Thu 11 Apr 13 1:55pm
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Re: Whats For Supper?
salmon fillet cooked with lemon, lime, garlic, shallots and vermouth; jasmine rice, tomatillo salsa, chopped salad of red letttuce and radish.
#21694 Thu 11 Apr 13 4:16pm
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Re: Whats For Supper?
Whole Sea Bream cooked in a parcel with Lemon grass, spring onion, ginger, chilli, rice vinegar, soy sauce, coriander and fresh lime, served with Lemon roast new potatoes and corn on the cob
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#21695 Fri 12 Apr 13 12:18am
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Last night I made chicken & prawn Laksa.
As a midweek meal it's pretty healthy with loads of veg added in & I don't add oil anywhere along the line (no, don't fry off the paste, shoot me) it's super quick too.. Takes less than 20 minutes & everyone loves it.
#21696 Fri 12 Apr 13 7:44pm
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Fish pie and peas tonight.
#21697 Sat 13 Apr 13 9:26am
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roast chicken with a sticky maple sauce, roasted potatoes, peas and corn .
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#21698 Sat 13 Apr 13 9:54am
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Steak, kidney and mushroom pie with something green.
Special request from hubby. He loves it when the juices rise up into the pastry lid.
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Fish & chips from the chip shop tonight - gluten-free, of course!
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had 'unsalted' organic blue corn chips with melted cheese and cold guacamole and a few crackers with peanut butter - gluten-free, of course.