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Michele Bachmann's Headaches: Real Issue or Not?
Original post made by Cindy Cross, Parkside, on Jul 21, 2011
Should Michele Bachmann's issue of suffering from migraine headaches impact her bid for president?
Herman Kane, fellow GOP presidential hopeful thinks her migraines are a non-issue, "If she's showing up for her events, and she's doing what she needs to do as a United States congresswoman, people shouldn't worry about her migraines," Cain told The Associated Press after a fundraiser in New Hampshire. "My wife has migraine headaches. I understand migraines. So I just think it's a non-issue."
The media has recently been condescending, hinting that Bachmann might become incapacitated during a critical time if she were to be elected.
In a recent interview, Bachmann admitted that her headaches, in their most severe form, have forced her to a hospital emergency room for treatment.
Bachmann has made it clear that her headaches have not interfered with her duties as a member of Congress; they won't interfere as president either.
Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, suggested this week that the issue with her headaches is a legitimate concern. "If you're going to be president of the United States you've got to be able to do the job every day, all the time. There's no real time off in that job," he said.
Are the other GOP contenders just trying to rain on Bachmann's parade? Polls show Bachmann and Mitt Romney neck and neck as first place favorites.
Karl Rove, former adviser of George Bush made a suggestion for Bachmann, "If you're going to be president of the United States you've got to be able to do the job every day, all the time. There's no real time off in that job," he said. He went on to suggest that she release her medical records to the press to help dissipate any concerns from potential voters.
Migraines afflict over 28 million Americans, I think it may work to her advantage—she's got ailments just like the rest of us.
Is the media being too critical, or is this really an issue?
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 21, 2011 at 9:57 pm
There is already a thread going on this. Cindy, if you want something in your name, the Michelle that hasn't be fully covered on this site is Michelle Obama and her husband's campaign activities.
...and since their campaign headlines can't be called 'campaigns' in print any longer, so as to not be confused with presidential duties
Didn't you think it newsworthy that Barack went to Puerto Rico to campaign to sway the heavy Puerto Rican voters in Fla, an important state to carry. He ignored JOBS while campaigning out of the country.
We didn't get much coverage on his social media event at Facebook, securing the management support of young Billionaire Zukerberg...insuring a healthy social media campaign of kids, like he had last time.
Following Facebook there was a SanFrancisco Millionaires & Billionaires event for Obama and part the large print press reporters, and being in SanFran, SFChron reporters were ask to be there. Their most senior political reporter, Carla Marinucci, was taking notes, and like most in the room also used her camera phone, which so outraged Obama he forbid her from using 'real words' and forbid her from from reporting on her events ! ! go figure . I believe the PW even got in trouble once quoting Michelle, and even had to taking off info that was on the web forever.
It is really chilling how they want to censor the press. Of course the topper was several weeks ago, when a respected moderate, left-of-center reporter (not a Rep) was commenting on tv the day after on of Obama's speech, when Obama acted a bit childish in attacking some republicans, comparing to his girl's doing their homework. On the show the panel was chewing about the speech, thinking they were off the air at the moment, and he commented on "Obama acted like '..ick', so within 24 hrs msnbc had fired the pundit/author...after appropriate phone calls from the WH. Similar actions of the first 3 months of the new administration, ABC had to fire John Stossel (Give Me A Break) and CNN fired Lou Dobbs....right fromk the start get put the fear in the press/media,...talk about controlling the message. So SAD, not what Thomas Jefferson meant when he was talking about 'Freedom of the Press'. We need a LOT more 'coverage' on the scary 'silencing' of the press, as Michelle and Barack are doing their undercover 'group' campaigning. Michelle Obama then went to Chicago for more campaigning....but we don't know what she really promises,.
As far as Michelle Bachman, tv, radio, newspapers, and this PW site have covered Bachman's headaches.. I don't want her social beliefs, with or without headaches! She won't get the independents vote from coast to coast. Much better for her to continue to stay representative of 'her district'....it won't work for the rest of the country.
All the DEMS have to stay on 'script'. You might have seen yesterday, Obama, every Dem Senator, Representative, pundit added new words to 'the script' ...now it's millionaires and BILLIONaires, and corporate jets and YACHTS ! ! ! Does that mean all the Kennedy yachts at Cape Cod compound, and John Kerry's yachts that go with his 7 mansions ??? Instead of campaigning, I so wish Obama could get focused,and then stay focused on JOBS, JOBS, JOBS...and I don't mean more PUBLIC union jobs, green jobs, or inner-city jobs. It's the traditional mid-level taxPAYERS in manufacturing/sales, main street, etc who can't pay taxes again,,,,,,until they get jobs again, and many have depleted savings and now another round of foreclosures will follow. FORGET about houses. Housing will take care of itself when CA are no longer 10-11% UNemployed. NO jobs, NO home loans ! duh
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 21, 2011 at 10:15 pm
So there's a 'restricted' thread for Anil Dash and Piderit...
...probably part of Obama's 'Facebook' team to 'control and silence'
and 'trash' or 'stop' any opposing thought...control and silence the 'message'.
The only problem we have on this PW site (other than Cholo) is the PUBLIC union members who spend most of their time monitoring and trashing any thread where there might be opposing thoughts or opinions.
Scary, just notice PW is setting this thread up with a new comment section, like they are ready to remove my long, and seriously thought comment above,,..let's hope it stays above.
Thanks, but we don't need lectures from outsiders about heavy-handed silencing techniques. ( I just noticed my 'no michelle' handle...very good, that covers it, no michelle....on TWO counts !!
a resident of Carlton Oaks
on Jul 22, 2011 at 6:55 am
One obsessive poster on these threads has called for censorship of views opposed to her own (even starting a thread to recruit followers); moreover, she has boasted about keeping a shadow file on at least one poster, apparently as a means of tracking his or her identity. Another obsessive poster has admitted he goes into the phone book in hopes of learning the addresses of some of the posters here. Both have complained that they don't like their arguments being proven to be fraught with contradiction and/or misinformation. And now these conspiratorial claims about Obama and unions censoring the views of others? How pathetic.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 22, 2011 at 9:47 am
Cato, have you not seen PWs 'restricted user' thread from Anil Dash and Pederit ? ? ? I have no doubt they are part of Obama's giant nationwide 'social media' campaign team...run from the White House.
David Plouff, BOs past and present head campaign manager, who was moved back into the White House in Jan. 2011....all politics, all the time ! !
Maybe you were born last night, I wasn't...but Anil & Pederit sure sound like trying to 'SILENCE' , control, and eliminate all negative comments about Obama. ....they need to polish their style, those techniques won't fly....maybe they're college students, new to this country and don't fully grasp the concept of Freedom of the Press ! !
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 22, 2011 at 10:36 am
"ABC had to fire John Stossel (Give Me A Break)..."
This is completely false. It is a lie.
Web Link
What game are you playing?
a resident of Livermore
on Jul 22, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Michelle and her hubby...birds of a feather? The word is out that Michel + Hubby are a Gay couple. It's possible according to her hubbette!
how come she is so vehemently against a large group of folks unless she has something to hide, to disown, a deep down nasty, furry, fuzzy, you know what? A nightmarish secret?
yup...that's my conclusion.
Healthy folks don't run around trashing others and wanting others to join the feeding frenzy unless they want to be citizens above suspicion. i wouldn't be the least bit surprised if missy michelle is a dyke...a lebanese...hmmmmmmmmmmmm...
a reflective person...
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 22, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Frank, oh my!! you really were born last night! OR, are you part of Plouf's social media team. In 'political' separations, the 'public statements' are part of the 'deal' the word fired never exists,. Obama doesn't personally make the call, it's the guys sitting next to him. You have seen the inside of Plouff campaign office in the West wing, right ??...makes carl Rove look like a beginner ! !
Transparency does not exist in this administration....remember Pelosi famous 'we won't know what's in it, until we pass it" ! ! DEFINITELY NOT TRANSPARENT ! ...remeber CANDIDATE BOs promise that a health care bill would be posted for all of America to read online, before it would ever go for a vote ! RIGHT? wrong !! NEVER HAPPENED. the 2000+ pages crammed with favors was typed during the night and submitted hours later for a vote ! NOT SO TRANSPARENT !
Please don't rewrite history. Democrat, Chronicle, senior reporter Carla Marinucci use of a cell phone camera at a huge event caused her removed from covering Obama. There is a long list. I thought it would stop when Rahm Emanuel left, but I was wrong, it has actually kicked into a higher level of paranoia,. what do they fear? Why is media censored?
a resident of Foothill Farms
on Jul 23, 2011 at 6:54 am
Obama should do what Bush and Cheney did. Only give speech at controlled military site, or a controlled high school site where anyone with anti-Gop message on shirts or cars is forcefully escorted from the site, or arrested. Also, no public protesting allowed at GOP campaigns or conventions, ever.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 23, 2011 at 2:59 pm
Clarance, precisely my point, Obama DOES limit and control the group and setting,.,.. and MUCH MORE...IT IS THE CONTROLLING AND LIMITING OF THE PRESS / MEDIA THAT IS AN ASSULT ON ALL OF US. HE IS WHO PROMISED HIS ADMINISTRATION WOULD BE 'TRANSPARENT'......well, this is the most controlled, reporter selective, private group-talk, closed press team in generations....the record speaks for itself....it's there for any who want to check out, even here in liberal Bay Area, the way groups and reporters have been handled.
a resident of Foothill Farms
on Jul 24, 2011 at 7:24 am
Exactly! Like the way Obama has given exclusive, noncensored interviews to Fox News. What a phony. Next they'll be trying to prevent lawful guntoting patriots from attending his rallies. Yessireee, that's the problem with the obama administration. He's a socialist muslim tyrant who suppresses my free speech. Pass it on!!!
a resident of Livermore
on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:31 pm
get a life BJ Bob...hahahahahahahahaa
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 24, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Cato and Frank, ANOTHER one bites the dust ! BUT, this time it's a leftist progressive.!! So far we KNOW of 2 right of center, at least one left of center reporter pulled from covering, a left of center pundit/author, and now this progressive host. This weekend cenk is telling the story about his separation from msnbc on the web, and I saw a replay on a SUN cable news show today.....later I watched Fox to see if they played it, but they did not.
Cenk knew his ratings were high so ask about ratings, was told YES, he definitely had great ratings, and even finally beat Fox....like they wanted, so that was not the reason, But cenk said "management would not let me tell the truth". Then he said "yes, I challenge ALL politicians"..."it's media's job, we're suppose to challenge the government and THOSE IN POWER." A month earlier, he had been called aside and told "once we get here we are part of the cool management club and we are to "play ball" and "those in power in WASH don't like your "TONE".
I've watched him many times, since I watch and read ALL sides, always, on all issues. Nobody should speak or offer opinions unless they DO listen & read all, not only for the issues, but to fully understand exactly where others fit on the scale, and to fully understand hosts positions when things get heated. cenk is vicious to all Repubs all the time, like Olberman and ED before him in that msnbc time slot. But he calls himself a 'progressive' and would also freely say, "Obama should do this and that, or Obama should NOT be doing this and that" etc. etc. ..,.that was a no, no.
Recently msnbc managers were in Wash and the message was delivered again. He said "I know I am the newest and the toughest" and "I am by far the hardest on Obama". So the deal offered him was double what he was makingand lots of perks ....to be OUT of his time slot, and would not get the NEXT slot which he was expecting,...in fact, reducing him to a few minutes now and then on other shows. (sort of sounds like hush money, to minimize air time and so he wouldn't go someplace else where he might 'speak the truth' as he calls it.
This was covered on Sun, news shows today and his 'announcement speech' is on the web....
So Cato and Frank, if you need to watch the world around you closer before charging conspiratorial stories about censoring....better you look closer at those in power for charges of conspiracy and censoring.
a resident of Foothill Farms
on Jul 25, 2011 at 6:06 am
I agree with Repub votes no michelles. Further: John Kennedy was shot by his brother Robt who wanted his job, and Robert was shot by Teddy who wanted his job. Martin Luther King was a puppet of the Soviet Union. Jewish liberals were responsible for 911. Rupert Murdoch is only pretending to be a rightwinger. All clear now? How do I know? I read a lot. As an independent I voted for Obama, but never again.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 25, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Another,(NON-rep) is cross-dressing, party-jumping, and shoveling BULL again.. 'Another's' lies can't be documented and his behavior so sophomoric!..'Another' that's 'childish' to you...not smart enough to know you need to verify with backup. Everything I write on, I have read in major papers or watched on recorded national news tv.
I guess you would be called a 'denier' of truths.
a resident of Livermore
on Jul 25, 2011 at 10:26 pm
in my adult opinion, michelle's hubby looks like a giant sissy seahorse...
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 26, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Hey 'ANOTHER' have you looked on the web yet, to see Cenk telling the blow by blow of why MSNBC would not let him, a liberal PROGRESSIVE host, do his show any longer. To dispell your conspiracy paranoia, you can watch his lips move as he tells his own story.
I know it hurts to know any administration is into elimination of reporters who won't 'play ball'. It's a real assult on the principle of 'Freedom of the Press'.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 26, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Hey 'ANOTHER' have you looked on the web yet, to see Cenk telling the blow by blow of why MSNBC would not let him, a liberal PROGRESSIVE host, do his show any longer. To dispell your conspiracy paranoia, you can watch his lips move as he tells his own story.
I know it hurts to know any administration is into elimination of reporters who won't 'play ball'. It's a real assult on the principle of 'Freedom of the Press'.
a resident of California Reflections
on Jul 27, 2011 at 6:16 am
Sometimes I wonder what it must be life to live a life in which my thoughts and arguments are based upon mainstream media reports and what I watch on TV. But then I feel a migraine coming on....
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 27, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Just reporting. Like reporters just repeat. I've watched MSNBC's Cenk, a genuine leftist progressive, who replaced Oblerman and ED in that time MSNBC slot. His video is on the web of him telling his story as to how is firing came down....watch it.
You see not all the firings have been conservatives. Cenk was a bad-boy progressive who dared to imply Obaba wasn't doing everything right....sieg heil! that cannot be allowed. SILENCE him !
very scary, beyond Nixonian.
Everything is to be perfectly staged theatre...and everybody must stick to the approved script/ campaign agenda.
The network presidnts get the word, pull the messenger, if the message doesn't fit with WH approval. ...very scary
a resident of Foothill Farms
on Jul 28, 2011 at 7:37 am
Yep, and one of these days we'll get around to explaining how/why corporate owned mainstream media, with owners and CEOs expressly stating they support Repub causes, somehow find themselves being enslaved by an Obama administration.... Yep, one of these days we'll get around to explaining that. But until then, just keep on watching corporate t.v. and reading your corporate-owned news source. Until then, continue to be a lame-brained, half-wit who believes Obama is a muslim socialist tyrant. Ever notice how the lamestream media, enslaved by the tyrannical Obaba, hasn't revealed his marriage license with Michelle? Hmmmmm.... What do you think they're hiding there?
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 28, 2011 at 8:53 am
You deny the recorded EVENTS of which I speak ? All firings and their dates are available. Leftistd Cenk has even given blow by blow.
All that other gibberish, I have no idea what you're talking about...I have never even implies muslim or socialist, and has nothing the do with the Nixoian silencing of reporters. Of course Nixon just put them on a 'LISt", but they kept their jobs and continues to report....they werked yanked off tv like these others.
Actually, I forgot to include Juan on PBS who got fired for even talking about muslims.
Get a grip Yet. Don't readd things into that are not there. Just the facts on reporters...all your other name calling is so irrelevant and chilish,,,,and UNTRUE. don't write fairy tales
a resident of Birdland
on Jul 28, 2011 at 11:19 am
This report fresh in from the lamestream media:
WOODBURY, MN—Republican presidential hopeful Michele Bachmann fired back Wednesday at critics who have said the Minnesota congresswoman's ability to lead the nation would be greatly hindered by her frequent, hours-long blackouts from which she invariably awakens covered in blood. "This is a complete nonissue—who among us hasn't gotten the occasional blinding headache only to wake up totally nude two days later in an abandoned church, covered from head to toe in someone else's blood and with absolutely no recollection of what happened in the intervening time?" said Bachmann, later adding that she is otherwise healthy and, in fact, is fairly certain she gets a significant amount of aerobic exercise during her prolonged fugue states. "I think I can handle the job of running the country just fine even if now and again I have one of my little spells where I come to in the middle of the South Carolina woods tightly gripping a bloody lead pipe in one hand and a ragged piece of what I think was a scalp in the other." Many political analysts have expressed doubt regarding Bachmann's presidential chances, citing the 1988 loss of Michael Dukakis to George H.W. Bush after it was discovered the Massachusetts governor had cooked and eaten a border collie while sleepwalking.


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TRUCKEE, Calif. — A Truckee High School senior was killed in a rollover vehicle accident Tuesday evening west of Stampede Meadows in Sierra County, officials said.
Andrew L. Metlenko, 18, of Reno, was pronounced dead at the scene by Calfire after the 1995 Chevrolet pickup he was a passenger in overturned at about 6:20 p.m. Metlenko was ejected from the truck, according to a California Highway Patrol press release.
Metlenko was scheduled to be among 155 seniors graduating Saturday morning from Truckee High School.
Corey Adam Neill, 18, of Truckee, was driving the pickup on Sierra County Highway 860 at a "speed that was unsafe for the condition of the dirt/gravel roadway," according to CHP, and as he navigated a descending right-to-left-hand curve, he encountered several protruding rocks in the roadway.
Neill, a current Truckee High senior, lost control, causing the vehicle's rear tires to slide to the right and the vehicle to rotate across the roadway to the left. As the vehicle rotated, the front end left the ground, hitting a drainage ditch causing the vehicle to overturn.
Neill, who was wearing a seat belt, suffered no injuries. Alcohol was not a contributing factor to the accident, according to the department.
In a Wednesday interview, CHP Public Information Officer Pete Mann said preliminary findings show no physical signs that Metlenko was using a seat belt.

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Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. MB Rule # 1
Over 7000 posts, advanced member, joined March 2002. 1st post (as anonymous) was the day after Super Bowl 35
Your statement can be raised about every QB comeback.
Yet do you say the same thing about Montana and all his comebacks? About Peyton and Brady) comeback ability? About Elway and Marino when they had thrilling comeback games? About Unitas? All of these QBs (and a few others throughout history) have been, and continue to be, praised by anyone you can think of--players, ex players, coaches, pundits, fans, HOF writer-voters--for their extraordinary "comeback ability". Which of these QBs would you say had their comebacks in games that they were more than adequate in the first half?
This ability is in fact highly regarded in the select few QBs who are good at it throughout their career. And Eli--only at mid career so far--is include in this select group. There's a reason for that.
Because all players are human. Because football is a team sport and sometimes other components come up short for a while. Because most pro football games have an ebb and flow to them. Because pro football is not like college ball where superior teams routinely play drastically inferior teams to vastly lopsided scores and total number of points can impact post season positioning.
And because of these facts of pro football life, it is impressive (and highly valued) when the QB can not only lead the team to overcome earlier deficiencies, but can do it repeatedly and can do it in big games as well.
Rivers is Eli with a higher QBR , a more consistent arm, and worse in the clutch, and no rings.


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Twins optioned 1B/DH Kennys Vargas to Triple-A Rochester.
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Clayton Kershaw did not pitch deep enough to qualify for a decision in Sunday's 9-4 win over the Cubs, surrendering four runs on 11 hits over 4 1/3 innings.
Jon Lester struggled in Sunday's 9-4 loss to the Dodgers, yielding six runs on seven hits over 3 1/3 innings.
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Freda Kelly was just a shy Liverpudlian teenager when she was asked to work for a local band hoping to make it big. Though she had no concept of how far they would go, Freda had faith in The Beatles from the beginning, and The Beatles had faith in her. History notes that The Beatles were together for 10 years, but Freda Kelly worked for them for 11. As the Beatles' secretary and friend, Freda was there as history unfolded; she was witness to the evolution – advances and setbacks, breakthroughs and challenges – of what may be the greatest band in history. In this enchanting new documentary, Freda tells her stories for the first time in 50 years. One of few films with the support of the living Beatles and featuring original Beatles music, the film offers an insider perspective on the band that changed the music industry – and popular culture – forever. (88 minutes)
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North Fields Activity Center, or "the Bubble", as it is referred to by the University and surrounding community, covers 72,000 square feet and rises to a height of seven stories. The Bubble is home to a complete cardio/strength area, free weight area, two full tennis courts, multi-purpose area, two full basketball/volleyball courts, a 50-yard turf field and a two-lane track. The facility is available to students, employees, alumni, community members as well as community groups. This building is the hub for Campus Recreation programming which includes: Adventure Recreation, Intramurals, Fitness/Wellness, Informal Recreation and Recreational Clubs.
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The mission of the Franklin Pierce University Raven Cheer Program is to involve students in athletics as a supplement to their academic pursuits. The Raven Cheer Program strives to enhance the lives of its members by strengthening their commitment and leadership skills, as well as their fitness. Raven Cheerleaders will enhance school spirit and support Men's and Women's basketball.
Doug Carty joined the Franklin Pierce community in the fall of 2001, after graduating from Garrett College's Adventuresports Institute in McHenry, Maryland with an AAS degree of Adventuresports. In May of 2006 he completed his Bachelor's of Science Degree at Franklin Pierce. Doug has worked in all facets of the Campus Recreation program and recently developed the current Adventure Recreation component of the department. He has studied extensively the hands-on skills and techniques of rock climbing, whitewater kayaking, mountain biking, bicycle mechanics, backcountry living skills and wilderness first aid. Doug can often be found sailing on Pearly Pond, participating in any number of intramural events or researching the newest trends in fitness and recreation programming.
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I think that I've just become obsessed with mini booklet making. I knew it was easy, but I didn't realise it was so easy. And fun. I think these are the first of many more booklets. If any of you know me in real life, you can definitely expect a mini book to be coming your way!
So because I called this post how to make booklets I think i need to put in some explanations…
1. Create some content for your booklet. Mine is my homework. I needed to collect examples of care labels on clothing. I work in retail so this was super easy. You could do it for your receipts, photos, letters, cards, and whatever else you may collect that is paper form but you are not limited to paper forms. You can make a booklet with flower petals but maybe you'd have to use thread to connect them instead of staples, maybe.
2. If you want to be a copycat and copy me, then use cardboard for the front and back cover of your mini booklet. You can be all perfect and stuff and measure your content pages and then cut out the cardboard perfectly or just do like me and just trace it directly. It worked for me. Then put your content between the two pieces of cardboard and staple, staple, staple. There are many ways to connect the pages. You can put holes with a hole punch and thread ribbon through, sew them like I mentioned before and I'm sure there are other ways so be creative and think of some more.
3. And voilla, open and close and read through your booklet. I think it's a good idea to label your booklets unless you're one of those mysterious types and in that case leave it unlabelled. I just thought of something just now… wouldn't it be rad if you just made up random booklets and left them around places you visited. I think I'm going to be doing this. I think this type of thing I'm getting onto is like, exactly like or very similar to, zines. Whatever.
Now you know how to make booklets/zines, make them like crazy and show me, or let me know about them and how you made them and what you made them about. Ok cool, now I'm going to make spaghetti bolognese because it's dinner time!


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A Halloween costume will not disguise your drunk or drug impaired driving. In 2010, more than 10,000 people died in alcohol-impaired driving crashes - one every 51 minutes.
Officers will increase their patrols to specifically look for drunk drivers on our roadways. The stepped up enforcement runs through Sunday, November 4th.
Halloween night is one of the deadliest times of the year for drunk drivers. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) reported that 48 percent of highway deaths nationwide on Halloween night in 2010 involved a drunk driver.
The Lakeland Police Department recommends these simple tips for a safe Halloween celebration:
LAKELAND, FL (October 19, 2012) -- The City of Lakeland has just released a mobile app called Link2Lakeland that is on the Apple, Android and Windows platforms. Link2Lakeland was developed by an in-house team comprised of members from the Department of Information Technology and the Communications Department.
The app features a mobile version of the City's Citizens Action Center that serves as a central communications point for citizens to report a concern, make a suggestion or ask questions. If a user happens to see a broken sidewalk or pothole that needs to be repaired they can take a photo or use the set location feature to drop a pin that highlights exactly where the issue is located.
The Link2Lakeland mobile app also features a community calendar that allows users to view upcoming events. A user can click on an event for a brief description and the user can have the mapping feature display directions to the event. There is also a list of frequently called numbers broken down by City Department.
Mobile users can stay connected to the City of Lakeland's social media networks through the Link2Lakeland app. The City's official FaceBook page, Twitter feed and YouTube channel can be accessed very easily with the touch of the screen. Citizen engagement makes Lakeland a better place and the community is encouraged to join the conversation through social media to learn what the City does each day and how they can play a part. The Link2Lakend app also allows smart phone users to follow the latest in City of Lakeland news with the LakelandGov Mobile news blog. The most recent news posts are highlighted so citizens can stay informed on City initiatives and programs.
The iPhone app is available through the iTunes App Store and can be found by searching Link2Lakeland. Android phone users can find the City of Lakeland's app on the Google Play app store and Windows phone users can visit their game and app store to download Link2Lakeland. Those with a smart phone are encouraged to stay informed and get connected through the Link2Lakeland mobile app.
Today, the City of Lakeland was designated as a Bronze level Bicycle Friendly Community by the League of American Bicyclists. The Bicycle Friendly America program provides incentives, hands-on assistance and award recognition for communities, universities and businesses that actively support bicycling.
Rick Perez, Senior Planner for the City of Lakeland said, "We received a request from the locaorganization, Bike Lakeland to apply for bike friendly status and the City Commission approved a resolution to pursue the designation soon after that." He added, "The Community Development Department worked with staff from Public Works, LPD and Parks and Recreation as well as the bicycling community and other agencies such as the School Board to complete the application. It is exciting to know that Lakeland was designated as a Bronze level Bike Friendly Community by the League of American Bicyclists."
Over the past 10 years, the League has worked with hundreds of engineers, government officials and bicycle advocates to identify the DNA of bicycle friendliness. Using that expert knowledge, the League evaluates communities on the following criteria:
1. Engineering: Physical infrastructure and hardware to support cycling
2. Education: Programs that ensure the safety, comfort and convenience of cyclists
3. Encouragement: Incentives, promotions and opportunities that inspire cycling
4. Enforcement: Programs that ensure motorists and cyclists are held accountable
5. Evaluation: Process that demonstrates a commitment to planning for the future
Celeste Deardorff, Long Range Planning Manager for the City of Lakeland said, "This award means that the City is being recognized for its continued commitment to cycling as a means of recreation and as a mode of transportation. Lakeland is now among the few localities in Florida who have achieved such a level of recognition." She added, "This award will help the City to attract avid bicycle enthusiasts of all ages and highlights one aspect of Lakeland's quality of life that can be used in economic development and recruiting efforts by our local businesses, educators and others in our community."
In four years the community will be re-evaluated and based on that assessment, the City of Lakeland can either improve or lose the bike friendly designation. Deardorff said, "In order to maintain our award recognition and aspire to a new level, it will be important for Lakeland to enhance cycling initiatives by working with local enthusiasts, bicycle clubs and other partner organizations within the community."
There is already a framework in place to improve Lakeland's bike friendly status such as:
1. Engaging the public and employers in cycling through leadership with bike to work days, ride with the Mayor/Commissioner events, promoting bike commuter programs, and creating a citizen advisory board to provide input on cycling projects and programs.
2. Improving upon existing infrastructure with a trail network throughout the City and work closely with schools to create safe bike routes to school.
3. Promote cycling as an economic development tool: Market Lakeland as a bicycling destination for tourism, conduct an economic impact study on bicycling in Lakeland, initiate a bike share program and attract more bicycle related events.
The Bike Friendly designation demonstrates that the City of Lakeland is committed to improving the safety, convenience, and enjoyment for all cyclists in the community whether they are recreational, commuter or sport riders. The end result is a higher quality of life that furthers the City's vision as a world class community and it helps attract those that enjoy an active, healthy lifestyle. Please visit www.bikeleague.org for more information on Bike Friendly Communities.
The public is invited to attend the unveiling of the eight foot bronze sculpture titled Mute Swan Protecting Her Cygnets that will take place at 6 p.m. on Tuesday, October 16th at Main Street Overlook Park (Main Street & Massachusetts Avenue overlooking Lake Mirror). There will be live music from the Brian Sutherland Trio and refreshments. There will also be a fireworks show at dusk. Sandra Trattner and Steve Wolfson generously donated the bronze sculpture in honor of their parents Elaine and Wil Wolfson.
Steve Wolfson said, "This piece of art tells our family story with the mother swan protecting her young and where it will stand is near the place where my grandfather stood when he first came to Lakeland in 1909." He added, "My sister and I are grateful to dedicate the sculpture in honor of our mom and dad. Although we don't live in Lakeland, the City has been such a huge part of our lives."
The Wolfson family has a rich history that starts in Europe with Cy Wolfson emigrating from Russia to Ellis Island, NY and eventually settling in Lakeland as an early pioneer. He became one of the very first retail shop owners in downtown. In the 1920's Cy and Frances Wolfson owned and operated the Famous Department Store on the south side of Munn Park. Wil is one of the four Wolfson children who grew up in Lakeland. He attended the University of Florida Pharmacy School and served his country during WWII. Wil married Elaine in 1946 and they had two children Sandra and Steve Wolfson. Wil opened his first Lakeland pharmacy in 1953.
As a way of honoring their parents, the Steve and Sandra dedicated the bronze swan sculpture by artist Ian G. Brennan. Brennan has been a contemporary sculptor and woodcarver to the British Royal Household since 1989. In the early 1950's The Queen of England gifted a pair of Mute Swans from the Royal Flock to the City of Lakeland. The descendent swan population remains a treasure to the community today.
Join the Wolfson family at Main Street Overlook Park as they unveil the larger than life Mute Swan Protecting Her Cygnets on Tuesday, October 16th at 6 p.m.


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Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by roscoe36, Mar 6, 2007.
FORUM: Who Is ... Acie Law? | HOOPSWORLD.com
He's a cat I'm aware of. He's been hovering around the top PGs in this draft most of the season. I've seen him play once or twice. Quick, steady and confident ball-handler, and DEADLY shot, especially with the clock runnin out. Keeps his head, is fairly athletic, has a fair-to-good defensive game (NBA wise), great handles. This cat is a true PG who brings plenty of "O" to the table. You ain't suggestin we pick him with the Orlando pick, are ya?
Acie Law was on the Jim Rome show on WDFN. For my pal slippy! See the attached.
Sounds like he has a good head on his shoulders. I'm really hoping we can get this guy. No talk about the NBA or future teams, etc, but a good interview nonetheless.
To Opponents, Acie Law is the Truth
There is no way that Law is there at 15. I am hoping Joe D. will work the phones and move up to atleast Atlanta's 11th pick. He should be there for the taking around that spot. However, we have little to trade now with Delfino gone. I don't think those 2 second round picks in 2009 and 2010 are going to do much in persuading Atlanta to swap picks with us.
Let's face it, if the Acie Law is still there at 14 because the Hawks don't take him at 11, then it is a no brainer that the Clippers will take him...after all how do you expect them to compete when their PG's are an old broken Sam Cassel and a young broken Shaun Livingston. They have to take the best PG available. HoopsHype has them taking Crittendon so if he and Law are gone, we are stuck with Rodney..at 15
I don't think Rodney will be there either. He was invited to be in the lottery green room. I don't think they invite guy's that are going to be drafted in the late teen's there.
Looking at NBA TV's draft preview today, they had the Heat pining for Stuckey with the 20th pick.?? Unless Joe has some private conversations with Boykins about signing him next week, he has to hope that Law or Stucky is available at the 15 or trade up for him...but with who?
Better for us. That means someone previously in the top 10-15 will slip down to us. Joe may end up with a guy that 3 months ago was projected top 10.
I think there is a 90 plus percent chance Law is gone by #15. I think there is a 50/50 Crittenton will still be there at #15. I think there is a 90 plus percent Stuckey will still be there.at #15. I think if either Law or Crittenton is there Joe grabs him for sure. But if Stuckey is there...I dunno. I think he takes him, but I'm not sure.
There are 3 top PG's. The way I see it is it all depends on what NO does with their pick at #13. Conley will be gone in the top 10, that leaves Law and Crittenton. The Clippers will definitely be getting one of them at #14, but we can still grab one if NO decides they don't want a backup to CP3. If they do take a PG, then we will still be getting someone like Nick Young, Al Thornton or Rodney Stuckey. We don't HAVE to get a PG as long as Joe trades for one like Blake, Boykins, etc.
I agree. It's going to be an interesting draft day indeed.
But Joe would need to trade either before or during the draft to assure that he gets a Blake, Boykins etc, since he technically isn't supposed to "chat" with those players' agents until Sunday (7/1).
Acie may be gone at #11. The Sonics are in the process of trading Luke Ridnour to Atlanta for the number 11 pick. Word is, they are interested in Law and Crittenton. They worked out Acie last month, and now are trying to grab him in the draft. Sonics, Hawks work on Ridnour trade
Here's a local (Seattle) blog take on Acie. Supersonicsoul: The unofficial blog of the Seattle Supersonics. Seriously. These guys are very high on Koponen as well.
First I heard about Law's stock dropping Linwood. I wonder if this is a rumor started by the unscrupulus Pat Riley to see if he can grab him the 20 spot?? I love the Seattle bloggers Sonic '"dreams" . "Getting Durant with the second pick in the draft is like hitting the bars with a friend, watching him get the girl you've both been ogling, then – while they're grinding on the dance floor – you bump into a drunk Salma Hayek" what a classic statement Anybody know what Joe's wet dreams are? I would like to know what he is really salivating in this draft. I know his latest statement is that the player at 15 has to make an immediate impact ...which means no darko projects.
The guys at Supersonicsoul.com are hillarious. They always have some great content, and it's interesting following the "other side" of the NBA. The Sonics are almost the exact opposite of the Pistons: They are mostly kids with raw talent and athleticism. They have a very hard time playing as a team. They don't have their own building, and they don't know where they will play next year. This team is in a constant state of rebuilding. We all salivate at the idea of talent and potential, but I tend to think that Joe's dream of experience and character may be a more mature vision, forged by years of Winning Now. like that old joke about the Bulls that I can't type in here.
Here is more on Law dropping (not sure if this was already posted) Law could face draft-night fall - NBA Experts Blog - NBA - Yahoo! Sports
I can't see Law falling all the way down to the Heat at # 20 after all the big pre-draft hype. That would mean the Riles may have a steal and get back to the finals because of some 11th hour negative rhetoric. If Law is there at 15, then Joe has to hope that Law is not the next Rodney white and take him. Don't let him fall in the hands of a contender who picks after you. if anything, grab him for future trade bait it you are on the fence about these latest rumors....
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I think Cruz is obviously a great player. But once nicks slowed down so did cruz's production. If he dominent he would have had 2000 yards this season. Instead he got pretty much taken away down the stretch.
Wes Welker is a free agent at the end of the season right?


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Dress Code for High School
Original post made by Paly Parent, Palo Alto High School, on May 30, 2007
As the warmer weather arrives, I am shocked by what many high schoolers think are appropriate wear for school. From beach wear to pajamas (for finals!), it appears that anything goes. Underwear showing above and below the scantiest clothing for boys and girls seems to be OK and as a parent I feel that I can't be the only one who thinks this just isn't on. If the teachers or admin. staff came to school dressed like this, it would be deemed unprofessional, so why is it deemed OK for the students. Apart from anything else, how can we teach them what is appropriate wear for interviews for jobs, colleges, etc. if the schools allow them to wear what they want.
Since the majority of our high schoolers have been to middle school in Palo Alto and are used to dress codes, why not take the same rules into high schools and teach the kids a life lesson.
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a resident of Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on May 30, 2007 at 11:48 am
There is a dress code for the middle school?? Who is supposed to enforce it - and has anyone seen it being enforced?
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 30, 2007 at 12:28 pm
I have seen Paly students at Town and Country at lunch time. I feel so sorry for them. Blue jeans ripped at the knees and faded, clothes way too big that fall down over their bottoms, outrageous outfits that look like recycling rejects. Do these students need financial help to buy hole-free clothing? Get a hair cut? But tie-dyed hair? In some of these outfits the girls should not stand on a street corner, or they may be tagged as 'solicitors'. I have visited the prestigious boys' DeLaSalle High Schooi in Orinda and the co-ed St. Francis in Mountain View.. What a change in atmosphere. Scholarly, respectful, disciplined. A learning environment- and its sports teams do 'rather well' too. And the kids seem very happy. I'm all for dress codes - and uniforms are becoming popular again in many parts of the country, espciially in gang areas. Would it be a good thing to have a 'closed campus' and have study halls. The 'permissive era' is backfiring.
a resident of Greenmeadow
on May 30, 2007 at 12:36 pm
In my experience (and my daughter's), the dress code is the same at both middle and high schools, but is known to be more strictly enforced at the middle schools (JLS at least). As I recall, the biggest issue seemed to be "no spaghetti strap tops, unless worn under another shirt," but I don't see that written out in the dress code. Here it is:
"Appearance and Dress: The Palo Alto secondary schools have established a dress code in keeping with the purpose of the schools and one which is acceptable to the community.
Appearance and dress must be within the limits of decency, cleanliness and appropriateness for school, and shall not interfere with teaching and learning. Some form of footwear must be worn on the campus.
Any profanity, sexually implicit or explicit wording and/or graphics as well as drug and/or alcohol insignia apparel must not be worn at school.
The following specific dress guidelines are intended as reference points and are not meant to imply that compliance requires measuring student apparel dimensions.
Article 1: Upper Body
• No back-less shirts shall be worn.
• Chest must be covered such that the neckline of shirts must not be lower than one (1) inch below the top of the armpit
Article 2: Midriff
• No belly button shall be exposed when a student is standing with his/her arms hanging at his/her sides.
Article 3: Lower Body
• The buttocks shall be covered such that no part is visible when sitting, standing, or leaning over.
• Skirts must reach the middle of the thigh.
• Shorts must reach the middle of the thigh.
• Underwear must not be showing when sitting, standing, or leaning over."
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on May 30, 2007 at 12:41 pm
Although I do agree that some kids cross the line of what's acceptable, I can't see holding them to the same standards as their teachers. They're kids, afterall. Going to school is not a job. Compare the teachers to other professionals, not students. A bit of self-expression is part of growing up.
What I find more dismaying is the sleazy selection of girls clothes offered in stores, starting with toddlers. If preschoolers dress suggestively, then how do teenage girls differentiate themselves from little girls and grown women? The options are reduced.
Regarding the middle school dress code, I got the impression that it's a fairly reasonable one. If I remember correctly, it prohibited skirt hems above the fingertips, spaghetti strap tops, and exposed undergarments. Good luck trying to enforce it at the high school level, though.
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on May 30, 2007 at 12:45 pm
My daughter's friends at Jordan were often sent to the office for their shorts being too short and had to either change into PE clothes or parents had to bring a change of clothes. This happened for both class and dances.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 30, 2007 at 12:47 pm
I seem to remember reading somewhere that Joe Simitian was one of the leading proponents in allowing the boys at Paly to have hair longer than their collars!!
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on May 30, 2007 at 1:14 pm
I am sure some Paly students may overdo it, but most dress in what they consider comfortable clothes. I do not think that any of the Play students are rampaging through the streets of PA committing crimes etc. I also do not think that the Paly students are unhappy at all. While students at De La Salle High School St. Francis in Mountain View may dress nicer, I am not sure that the atmosphere is necessarily better. Just because a student does not dress to your liking does not mean that they are not scholarly, respectful and disciplined. I think that you are stereotyping based on appearance. Finally I am sure that Paly students get into prestiges universities and go on to very nice careers, just like their better dressed peers at fancy high schools with dress codes.
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 30, 2007 at 1:51 pm
Kate, what I read between the lines in post is that kids should really look like Young Republicans;clean cut, short hair, look uniformly conservative, like kids used to be portrayed on those 1950's TV shows. God forbid they should express their individuality, sexuality, creativity, defiance of authority and free spirit. kids like that usually end up questioning the establishment in general and government in partticular, especially regarding wars and the accelerating rate at which our country is becoming a corporate state, run by corporations solely for corporations and for war profiteers. Where wil we end up if young people actually end up thinking for themselves, deciding what kind of cloths to wear and question their government? The government might throw a war and no one will come. We can't have that, can we?
a resident of Greenmeadow
on May 30, 2007 at 2:35 pm
Sheesh Albert, even my kids recognize that their peers "express their creativity" by dressing exactly like each other. Teenagers have much narrower definitions of clothing conformity than their parents, it's just the styles that are different. Actually teenage girls' styles today look almost exactly like what girls wore when I went to school.
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 30, 2007 at 2:55 pm
And in a nude beach everybody's dress code is the same too. Does that make nudist conformists too? The point is that conservatives want to dictate to the kids a dress code based on their conservative social and religious values, in which the expression of sexuality and defiance of authority is totally unacceptable. And the main reason so many kids dress alike is because the media, which we allowed to be owned and controlled by greedy and sleazy corporations, has been pushing particularfashions and images on kids in an incredibly aggressive manner. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 30, 2007 at 3:51 pm
Albert: Come on. Nowadays the kids who dress like Kate suggests ARE the non-comformist individualist rebels. Think about it. This is the turn of the new century, where such dress behavior is radical. The norm now is what was consdered rebellious "hippie" of my youth.
a resident of Greenmeadow
on May 30, 2007 at 3:55 pm
Yes, nudists who go to a nude beach to undress are conforming to society's mores, what's wrong with that?
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on May 30, 2007 at 3:56 pm
I'm with Paly parent and Kate. Insofar as high school girls' clothing goes, it is outrageous and often very provocative - at least what you see at the Churchill parking lot
a resident of South of Midtown
on May 30, 2007 at 4:00 pm
What I find interesting about this discussion is that it - and most others like it - never go to the heart of teen "style".
There is a reason why young people - as young as five - want to dress like their peers, especially in today's heavily marketed-to, youth-oriented culture.
Kids and adults are wired to conform to a degree; translated into contemporay parlance, that means "being cool".
Most child consumers are unaware of this phenomenon, and ironically end up dressing just like their peers, while at the same time being told by the Great Marketing machine in the Sky that dressing like they do will make them "different".
The bottom line: most everyone is a conformist, and that includes all but about 5% of the school population, whi themselves are examined by special marketers who look for "emerging trends" in fashion by watching the real non-conformists - including behavior and dress. Then, slowly, and by design, this "edgey" stuff is marketed via movies, MTV, etc. etc., and we all - even adults - follow like sheep.
Last, is it any surprise that kids dress suggestively? I was speaking with an elementary school principal recently, in another city. He said that 4th and 5th graders are now presenting with dress and behavior codes that only used to be seen in 7th and 8th grade 5-7 years ago.
I don't place a value judgment on kids dress behavior; I'm not inside their heads, but if parents took the time to deconstruct the obvious, we might see less conformist behavior that centers around donning overtly sexual dress.
The second bottom line is that we don't spend enough time with our kids, but that's another post.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 30, 2007 at 4:01 pm
Wow, I just read your second post...you are reading WAY too much into this thread and Kate's post! Suddenly it is a conservative social and religious issue? Did you realize that there are actually liberal atheists in this nation who understand that dress codes in schools promote a learning environment? Kind of tough for a 16 year old male to focus on his studies in class when the girl next to him leans over her desk and reveals attributes that normally aren't revealed in public. And, frankly, who wants to see a crack when it isn't dawn?
By your standards, there should be no dress code and students should be free to go to school nude if they choose, and have sex on the lawn at lunch to express themselves. Maybe there should be no rules at all of civilized behavior.
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a resident of College Terrace
on May 30, 2007 at 4:07 pm
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a resident of Community Center
on May 30, 2007 at 4:23 pm
The majority of opinions I read in this thread and others make me sadly realize that a conservative right wing element has infiltrated into Palo Alto in the last 20 years or so, possibly as one of the manifestations of the dot.com boom. I now read opinions and comments I would expect to read in Texas, Arkansas or Idaho publications. We seem to have lost Palo Alto's special character as a bastion of progressive, rational and decent thinking and replaced some of it with Bushist conservatism, the worst thing that happned to our nation.
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on May 30, 2007 at 4:36 pm
This was never meant to be a political thread, or even a moral thread. Many of the comments here show that there are some one topic only contingent who are not able to debate anything except their own agenda. To those people, I ask them politely to keep to their own threads and don't hijack those that have no connection. We will leave you yours without bringing in parental issues and you can leave ours alone.
a resident of Greenmeadow
on May 30, 2007 at 4:39 pm
I would agree than when you see yourself as a "bastion" of a certain type of thought being "infiltrated" by wrong thinkers, you have lost something important.
I used to think that this type of forum was a great opportunity for people to share ideas and communicate with people they might not otherwise, but it rarely seems to work out well in practice.
a resident of College Terrace
on May 30, 2007 at 4:56 pm
Sorry, but indignation at the way tee agers dress and a desire to force them to conform to puritanical fashions you are comfortable with seem to be much more than a thread about kids fashion. This ties directly with labeling those who oppose the Iraq war as terrorist supporters and traitors. It's the pious wish for others to conform to your notion of modesty, dress and behavior and the putting down of those who don't dress and behave in the manner you expect them to. This thread is not about low necklines, short skirts and long hair, but about forcing kids to conform to your values [portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]
a resident of Crescent Park
on May 30, 2007 at 5:09 pm
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Palo Alto kids have actually done extremely well in the adult world. They are generally extremely bright and practical and I never heard of even one graduate of our public schools who showed up to a job interview wearing a micro-mini skirt and no bra. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]
a resident of Greenmeadow
on May 30, 2007 at 5:20 pm
OK, I'm not Kate and I don't know Kate, but why such outrage against her comment? She says she's in favor of dress codes - but how is her saying that "forcing" dress codes or values upon anyone? She should be allowed to express her feelings on the matter. Older people have always complained about the younger generation's clothing extremes, with very little material effect.
a resident of Crescent Park
on May 30, 2007 at 5:31 pm
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This is a matter of personal freedom, some of which we are losing in the scary period we live in. The way we and our kids dress are a form of free expression and no one should attempt to pontificate about it. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]
a resident of College Terrace
on May 30, 2007 at 5:41 pm
The way the older generations have fouled up and corrupted just about everything, i find it ludicrous that they are trying to impose a dress code on kids, as if they were smarter and know better. If anything, our kids are much smarter than us and will have to work very hard to undo the mess we have created and left for them. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]
a resident of Greenmeadow
on May 30, 2007 at 5:46 pm
Andrea, interesting point about the atmosphere of indignation. I still believe though, that trying to create an atmosphere in a written forum is not imposing on anyone. We are free to skip over posts we don't want to read, and will still have our open society as long as everyone is still allowed to post their "other" opinions.
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 30, 2007 at 5:56 pm
How about this metric: if your high school daughter's attire is sexually stimulating to an old fart male with testosterone levels significantly lower than the average high school male, I'm voting that the attire is inappropriate for school wear. I don't believe that this is forcing anyone's values on anyone else, it is providing a safe environment with the best chance for actual scholarship to occur. Bring on the dress codes and uniforms. Maybe if kids didn't focus so much on attire to conform, and maybe for one-upmanship in this wealthy town, they might (big might) focus on looking at some of the thread-hijackers' political issues. Anyone who argues that kids wearing sleazy, expensive, ubiquitous, corporate-brand emblazoned Abercrombie & Fitch cloth(e)s are "expressing themselves" is, in my opinion, way off base.
a resident of Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on May 30, 2007 at 6:05 pm
Dvae, it's a Public Forum, that's why she is invited, as are we all.
a resident of Crescent Park
on May 30, 2007 at 6:09 pm
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a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on May 30, 2007 at 6:21 pm
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a resident of Greenmeadow
on May 30, 2007 at 6:23 pm
I still think you're imputing too much power to one comment made in response to someone else's original post. Do you agree she has a right to her opinion? I mean, we are only talking about clothes right now. If the right to the opinion exists, why be upset that she is posting it here, on a forum where every reader is here by choice? It's not as if she's pasting flyers around town or standing on the corner with a megaphone. I agree with what you said earlier: our kids are sophisticated at even the middle school level to understand where a person with this opinion is coming from, and not be overwhelmed by it.
a resident of College Terrace
on May 30, 2007 at 6:26 pm
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a resident of Palo Alto High School
on May 30, 2007 at 6:26 pm
This opening of a can of worms is completely un-intentional on my part. As a teenager, I constantly got in trouble from my parents and others about the length of my skirt and the fact that my hair was all over my face. I remember how I felt, I wasn't making a statement, just wanted to dress the same as my friends. And, I was in a school with a strong uniform enforcemnt.
If in Palo Alto we can have dress codes for middle schoolers, why not high schoolers. I don't feel that I am asking them to conform to anything other than keeping things sensible. I am not saying that they cannot follow the latest trends, wear t shirts emblazoned with advertising or have holes in their clothes, should they so desire. I am just asking that perhaps some of the more lacksadaisacal garments be left for out of school time. I do not think pajamas appropriate school wear. Neither would be showing off underwear or wearing something that leaves very little to the imagination. I am talking about both girls and boys taking a responsible view of their clothes, not dictating a strong uniform.
I am pleased that people have an opinion on this, however we can differ and that is how it should be. But, taking someone's opinion and making a bigger issue out of it than was originally intended is taking a bigger liberty.
Many people don't like the anonymity of this Forum. However, when opinions are thrown back in such a manner, I can see that many of us would never want to post our real names. My reason for anonymity is more to do with the fact that I wouldn't my kids embarrassed by something I have done. Now, I am not so sure.
a resident of Greenmeadow
on May 30, 2007 at 6:37 pm
and we're back to the beginning. Paly Parent, the dress code written out by PAUSD applies to all secondary schools, middle schools and high schools together. They do mention keeping underwear hidden, but at the high school level, the interpretation seems to be left to the students' discretion.
a resident of Crescent Park
on May 30, 2007 at 6:42 pm
"I don't feel that I am asking them to conform to anything other than keeping things sensible." But that is the crux of the matter, isn't it? who are you to decide what is sensible for others and why should you be offended by the cloths others are wearing?
a resident of College Terrace
on May 30, 2007 at 6:46 pm
I still fail to understand why the way one person is dressed, regardless of age, should be any business of another?
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on May 30, 2007 at 7:07 pm
Dave, wake up to the real world.
The phrase "dress for success" didn't come about by accident. Anyone who wants to get on in the business field (or even the political field) knows that how they come across is very important on how well they will do. Of course, how you dress in high school isn't going to make much difference to a potential future career, but the habit of dressing appropriately will make a difference nonetheless. A teacher trying to help a student with poor grades do better in their subject will find it much easier helping a student who is mannerly and dressed in a respectable manner. A student who is not doing so well and needs help will probably still get it, but the teacher will even subconsciously be affected by the attire if it is offensive or inappropriate. I would just like to teach my children that what they wear does affect who they are and how they will be judged.
As a child, I remember being forced to sit beside someone who smelt as though they hadn't bathed for a month or changed their clothes in that time (and probably hadn't). I was definitely affected by that and it was my business. At that stage I hated going to school and everything about it. As soon as the situation changed and I was able to sit beside someone else, my whole attitude about school changed. I had no sympathy while I was sitting beside my smelly neighbor, I was told someone had to sit there and it might as well be me. However, looking back on that incident reminds me that we are all in this world together and being a little considerate to others' is always a wise move, particularly when it is all in this classroom together.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 30, 2007 at 7:11 pm
Isn't the point really that either the schols should not bother to have a dress code or they should enforce the rules? This is just another area in which some Palo Alto schools make no accountability for breaking rules, or apply the rules selectively. It starts with the elementary schools and goes right on up. Why not ask the parents and kids all to vote on it if people feel so strongly that the children's constitutional right to express themselves fully and freely is being inhibited?
a resident of another community
on May 30, 2007 at 7:18 pm
Sorry if this sounds sexist, but the main reason for a dress code is that when girls reveal too much, boys can't concentrate and teachers can't do their jobs the right way. When girls reveal too much, teachers can't walk around a classroom and look down at a student's work without appearing to look down her top too. I've also seen girls wearing skirts too short and then forgettingg about different angles when they change position. Then when they do realize it, it's too late, and then no one's thinking about the lesson any more but rather about the poor girl who just flashed her undies. Frankly, I don't like the way many boys dress either, but it doesn't cause the same problems. Enforcement is also a problem partly b/c male teachers have to have looked at the student's body to notice the problem and what male teacher wants to be the one with the rep for noticing cleavage and midriffs even if it's to enforce dress codes. And the more rules you make the more you have to enforce which eats up time from better purposes. When I used to teach in a school that banned cell phones and we wasted so much time with that - now it's totally normal and I hate to think of the hours spent on that b.s. Maybe the way to go isn't to have more rules but to get families to enforce more on their own. Imagine creepy boys and middle aged men checking out your daughters - if they show it, it will be seen. By everyone, not just the people they *want* to notice them.
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on May 30, 2007 at 7:38 pm
I thought you might appreciate the imput from an actual high school student who deals with this issue on a daily basis. Kids do care about what other students wear to school. However, as long as an outfit is not distracting or offensive to other students it is considered OK. And besides, there are social limitations to the lewdness of attire. Kids who wear especially revealing clothes are often demeaned by their peers; I am sure if you have attended high school you are aware of the conduct I refer to. Also, going to school in a district where it is expected that you have at least a 4.2 GPA, students get pretty stressed out. There is so much that is expected of us that sometimes we just need to be teenagers.
a resident of College Terrace
on May 30, 2007 at 7:57 pm
The only thing i find offensive in this is that some people try to impose their values, tastes and sensibilities on others. If you find certain attire sexy and your puritan soul can't deal with it, don't look. I believe in total freedom as long as it doesn't hurt others. I'm not condoning kids showing to school topless or nude, but what is considered sexy and racy in fashion keeps changing rapidly and to each his own. if certain ways of dress offend some people, they have a problem they need to solve, not the other way around. It would be fine with me if you walked your dog without any cloths, why should it bother you if my daughter wears a short skirt to Paly?
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on May 30, 2007 at 9:16 pm
"Anyone who argues that kids wearing sleazy, expensive, ubiquitous, corporate-brand emblazoned Abercrombie & Fitch cloth(e)s are "expressing themselves" is, in my opinion, way off base."
GAB, Are you saying that they're not expressing themselves, or that you don't like what they're expressing?
a resident of Midtown
on May 30, 2007 at 11:26 pm
In a town where schools are very competitive and kids overall do very well during their school years and beyond, I think that picking on the way they dress should be the lowest of our priorities. They already have to work very hard at conforming to the curriculum, the work load, the schedule, the competition, the pressure, the stress. Please let them be when it comes to clothing.
Personally I sympathize with the young people who go to school wearing flannel pyjama pants. For one thing they have to be at school at 8 AM, which is way to early from teenage bodies (read all the articles on teenage sleep deprivation please). They might as well be allowed some comfort in the way they dress.
a resident of Southgate
on May 30, 2007 at 11:34 pm
Teenagers are exceptionally conformist, yet they like to think that they are rebels. That is why Stalin and Goebbels liked them, because they were so easy to persuade to join the rebel cause.
I still like miniskirts and halter tops and cleavage, atlhough it is an abstraction at my age. For teenage straight boys, it can be overwhelming. Many teenage girls focus on attracting these boys, mistaking sexual attraction for love and acceptance. That's why I support conservative dress codes in our taxpayer supported schools. I think we are paying for academic learning, not fake love.
All the talk about indivuality and expression is a joke. More importantly, who cares - we are paying the bills. We have every right to set standards, and to tone it down. The kids are looking for stability, during their chaotic years. Why not provide it?
a resident of Midtown
on May 30, 2007 at 11:39 pm
Our girls should not be held responsible for our boys' behavior. Boys have to learn to control themselves. It is unacceptable to put the burden on girls.
It is equivalent to saying that a rape victim is responsible of what happened to her because of the way she dressed.
Where will it stop ? Muslims think women should be veiled in the name of modesty.
Such an attitude of making the girls responsible for the boys' behavior is very regressive and dangerous. I find it unacceptable.
If your boy cannot handle being around girls, you can opt for a private boy only school.
a resident of Southgate
on May 30, 2007 at 11:50 pm
What, your response is so typical of the denial of reality that pervades our current society. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]
Teenage boys will fight over the pretty girl. They will be distracted by them on a regular basis. It is called biology. Sociology will not fix that basic issue. Time to get over it, and just set up some dress codes.
a resident of Midtown
on May 30, 2007 at 11:58 pm
Well, then again teach your boys not to do that. Period. Or opt for the boy only school.
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a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 31, 2007 at 6:49 am
Dress is important. Yes, it isn't right or fair to "blame the victim" if she dresses in a way that causes boys/men to not focus on her "brain", but at the same time we have to teach her that there are consequences for her behavior, including dress, that she must expect.
Like one of you said, it is biology, and we do a disservice to our young women if we don't teach them the reality of male response. I can teach my son his whole life to treat women well, look in her eyes, "no means no" etc, but it is unrealistic and, frankly, unfair tell our young males that they must completely ignore every bit of their biology, even to the point of "not noticing" anything other than brains when it put in front of them.
Shared responsibility.
a resident of Barron Park
on May 31, 2007 at 8:53 am
I am amused by most of this discussion. Perhaps, we should require our children to wear the "inappropriate" clothing discussed in this post and they would then rebel by wearing jackets and ties for the boys and long skirts for the girls........Actually, Terman just completed their cotillion and the kids seemed to really enjoy getting dressed up for the weekly ballroom dancing lessons.
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on May 31, 2007 at 9:57 am
"That's the thing I love about them high school girls....I get older and they stay the same age...yes they do...yes they do...heh heh heh"
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on May 31, 2007 at 1:41 pm
Teenage boys who think that the sexy cloths a girl wears to school gives them permission to "touch", should be kicked out of school. Boys who can't or won't control their urge at this age, will not do it as adults, and society might as well start dealing with them now. Touching is fine when the female says it's fine. Staring is a universal right. School dress codes is taking a basic right away and I'd oppose it under any circumstances. We adults think we know what's best, yet we managed to foul up so many things in this world, it's a wonder young people listen to us at all. We should hope that they have the wisdom and decency, which they probably do, to undo some of the terrible mess we have created for them and their children, instead of forcing them to dress in a manner that we feel is appropriate for them.
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on May 31, 2007 at 2:11 pm
"...instead of forcing them to dress in a manner that we feel is appropriate for them."
Unfortunately this goes both ways. On the one hand we should leave teenagers alone to choose their own clothes. (Do we at least enlighten them on the consequences of various choices?)
But what about the other side: adults who push preschoolers and younger school girls to wear highly suggestive clothing. Do "we" as a society feel that's appropriate? Media and commercialism have made it acceptable. Little girls ask to wear what they see on TV, etc. (or the products that are spun off junk TV shows), and their parents endulge. I hope these aren't the same parents who are alarmed when their little girls grow up wanting even more sleazy outfits.
For the parents who find nothing wrong with either - great - at least you're consistent. It's your choice. But like it or not, clothes do reflect the person. And, intended or not, sleazy clothes attract the Orange Juliuses of the world. It's reality, and we each have the right to observe or ignore it as we see fit.
a resident of Palo Verde
on May 31, 2007 at 8:31 pm
Cmon people, this is after all a dress code, those of you who are seeing this as expressing how they feel, are very very wrong, we dress because A its comfertable, or B becuase we want to impress the opposite sex, not because were against conforming.
a resident of Gunn High School
on May 31, 2007 at 9:44 pm
oh we definitely have a dress code here at Gunn. Written in plain English in the handbook... It's just that none of the admins or teachers care!
Unless someone is just in their underpants (or wearing nothing at all...) maybe someone will care.
I can't see how someone would be 'distracted' from paying attention in class by another's clothing. Let's not underestimate the attention span of high school students.
Given the fact that people who live in Palo Alto can actually afford the housing here I'm sure we buy decent clothing for our children and not rags. There are much more important issues going on in our school system (ie overcrowding, safety, stress)
a resident of another community
on Jun 1, 2007 at 12:40 am
Dear Gunn senior -take it from me, thongs and lacy bras and tops that are too tight too loose or too low are distracting to students. Note I didn't say disruptive. Perhaps not distracting to you so congratulations. You've seen what you've seen in four years in a desk and I've seen what I've seen from a better vantage point observing thousands of students over three decades. Enjoy your graduation and dress up nicely.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 11, 2007 at 10:01 am
Dress is not a black and white issue -conservative or liberal...
It's about the image that a person projects and the reaction that is received. Kids don't always realize the consequences of their actions as far as projecting an image with their dress. I taught for many years in elementary grades - a young girl excused herself to the bathroom during class and did not return for a period of time I considered a little long. When I sent my aide to fetch her / find out if she was o.k., she was found showing her thong to a girl from another class. I'm sorry, but a thong in the third grade? Is she worried about panty lines? Of course by lunch, the entire class knew she was wearing a thong. We called her mother to bring other undergarments - and upon arrival, we were treated to her mother's thong showing above her skirt. Seriously, dress code or no dress code, it's difficult to enforce a sense of "class" when the role models at home are inappropriate.
I spend my time teaching my children to project what they want in return - with their actions as well as their image. And that doesn't mean wearing a jacket and tie to school...you can be cool and expressive while still being appropriate and classy.
a resident of Terman Middle School
on Oct 24, 2007 at 7:50 pm
first of all dress code SUX
im a middle school and haveing a dresscode is plain stupid
we express ourselves through our clothes
i understand short shorts and skirts
i love wearing spagetti straps but im not allowed to
whatever about the sresscode
by the way
there are thousands of hiugh schoolers and on principal and vice principal evrone can get away with the dresscode
if you dont want your kid wearing this than tell them not to
a resident of Palo Verde
on Oct 24, 2007 at 8:03 pm
Well, despite the fact that thongs worked for Bill Clinton, I think we don't need to accept his level of draw-the-line. He and Monica liked cigars, too. Should school kids be allowed to smoke/use cigars? Or thongs?
How about that we just agree that there IS a line? Then we can determine where it is. Bill may not agree, but, hey, he isn't prez anymore.
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Oct 24, 2007 at 8:28 pm
Mad midle schooler,
Your post shows why dress codes are a good thing. You're, what, 13 at most? I guarantee that you don't understand short skirts and spaghetti straps the way a teen-age guy does.
I think, by the way, it's hard for girls, who can pretty much wear anything as kids and not have it mean much, suddenly being in a situation where they're perceived sexually. The head and body don't match up.
a resident of Palo Alto Hills
on Mar 14, 2008 at 5:51 pm
I think thongs are just fine to wear at school. If students want to wear them that's fine. It appearantly makes them feel "self-confident". So, let them wear thongs because even I love to look at them.
a resident of College Terrace
on Mar 14, 2008 at 7:17 pm
OP, "I think, by the way, it's hard for girls, who can pretty much wear anything as kids and not have it mean much, suddenly being in a situation where they're perceived sexually. The head and body don't match up."
In fact, most any grammar school teacher will tell you that 4th and 5th graders are now presenting with a lot of the same overt behaviors (sexual and otherwise) that 6th and 7th graders did, 10 years ago.
We are letting the media infiltrate the minds of kids in ways that are unprecedented, and there seems no way to put the cork back in the bottle. The media and its modalities are not going away.
What's necessary is firm, loving guidance from the TOP, re: dress codes, speech behavior, etc. etc. Someone has to set an example, because too many parents simply aren't - either because they're too bury, too overwhelmed, or simply don't care.
I think a dress code would be a good idea, because there are VERY few kids who dress for themselves; they dress for others, based on what the culture says is "cool".
That needs to be deconstructed by good policy and good modeling in schools - it would take away some of the media's power, and provide some leverage back to community standards.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Mar 14, 2008 at 7:21 pm
I don't believe it, I agree with every word you just wrote.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Mar 16, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Just so you know, I regularly tell students that their outfits are unacceptable. I'll send them to the office and they can call home to get a change of clothes. I often wonder if there's anyone at home that takes a second to look at their child's outfits and say "oh wait, this isn't ok". It is mind-boggling what some parents allow their kids to wear. Sometimes, when the parent comes to drop off a change of clothes and is wearing herself a too-short skirt and a revealing top, it all makes sense.
And in the classroom, as a teacher, it is a big problem with inappropriate clothing. You cannot teach effectively and have to constantly divert your eyes. It's an issue.
And it's a shame the parents of these kids allow it.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Mar 16, 2008 at 3:54 pm
As a parent, I am glad that there are teachers who are like the above poster. My daughter insists that "everyone does it" when I criticize her clothes choice for school. I tell her that it will not be allowed, and she comes home and tells me, see nothing happened.
Back in my day, I rolled my skirt shorter and hid what I was really planning to wear from my parents, so now I am on the other side of the issue. But, my school had standards and I would have been sent home. I wish the same happened today.
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Mar 26, 2008 at 4:53 am
I go to school in Charleston and yeah, so what if I like wearing thongs and such? I'm 14, come-on. My mom dosn't mind, why should the school? My skirt is short, I'd say it was above middle-thigh and besides all my friends do it. Guys like the girls wearing low shirts and tight skirts, thongs are just part of that. Love ya xx
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 26, 2008 at 10:49 am
guys like the girls to have sex with them, too...so are ya also gonna have sex cuz guys like it? maybe ya should instead think about your own goals and future, and do what is good for YOU instead of what guys like..
a resident of another community
on Nov 1, 2011 at 7:39 pm
Sounds like this group of parents haven't kept up with fashion since about 1960...
a resident of another community
on Aug 5, 2012 at 10:38 pm
Why hello lol, I'm a highschool student myself and I understand how parents could get conserned over this matter. Yet, I don't think its fair to take away the privlage of short shorts it it's not reviling anything. Not all students have half there butt hanging out. And if so im sure they get enough crap about it from students at school. The older we get the responsibility we should gain.
BTW... Y'all don't understand how dang hard it is to find shorts that reach your mid thigh.
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on May 25, 2014 at 12:32 am
I wish the schools would adopt a simple dress code. I know that the way some girls dress (or lack of it), is very distracting for both my sons (Jordan/Paly) I have overheard them talking about the way certain girls at their schools dress. Some of the girls wear camisoles with spaghetti straps, extremely low cut tops with push up bras, bare midriff, and skin tight racerback tanks. The short shorts (I have heard them called "bootie shorts") do not cover enough in the rear, and are too loose and short in the front.
Not all girls dress like this, but it is very distracting to young boys and men, so I am asking that the parents of these girls please talk to your daughters about this.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 25, 2014 at 9:42 am
Parent of Boys,
"Not all girls dress like this, but it is very distracting to young boys and men, so I am asking that the parents of these girls please talk to your daughters about this."
I don't want to shift the blame away from parents but this is my theory. The "camisoles with spaghetti straps, extremely low cut tops with push up bras, bare midriff, and skin tight racerback tanks." are the legacy of the Victoria Secret culture.
What used to be worn on the inside is now on the outside, and what is available for fashion consumption are these porn outfits. It's cheap to make these clothes. Once 1 girl wears what's "in" who will be the girl to wear what's not. Weigh that battle with a parent who wants to enforce a dress code for school.
I think that the sexual overtone in fashion has gone so far that nobody makes nice and fun clothes without lowering the neck line so low or poking holes in something (so you can still see everything). The comfy sweatpant sweatshirt look (which thankfully is still in fashion at school) in the summer becomes the full on underwear look. The push up factor takes it up a notch.
A few parents talking is not enough to handle this. Many moms' closets are full of the same clothes. We have a design problem.
If I were a teacher, I would have ponchos and saris in my classroom and ask any girl exposing her top underwear to wear the poncho if her top is exposed, the sari if the bottom is exposed, and both poncho and sari if they forgot to wear actual clothing to school that day.
a resident of Community Center
on May 25, 2014 at 10:50 am
You shoulda seen the clothing that 13 year old girls wore during my nephews Catholic school graduation from 8th grade ( with the bishop there, at that). Extremely short skirts, extremely low necklines , no bras....and the mothers were dressed similarly!
a resident of University South
on May 27, 2014 at 11:36 am
My kids, and I found the middle school dress code ridiculous and arbitrary (and really hard on petite girls, who look silly following the "width of tank top" and "length of skirt" rules, and stifling to boys (one of my kids got dress coded for wearing pants with one leg long and one short (lower piece zipped off).) We all were greatly relieved for high school's loosening of dress codes. Yeah, some kids go to far, but the staff should and does have plenty of other things to care about rather than policing student dress. And, frankly, to the original poster--I think wearing pajamas for finals week is reasonable--these kids are studying hard and focused on their schoolwork, not a bad time to dress for speed and comfort instead of style.
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on May 27, 2014 at 12:39 pm
The Weekly had an article on harassment at school. The picture for that article showed a young lady in shorts. This was not a gym class - it was part of a group in the quad. My feeling is that it was totally inappropriate to be in shorts for school. It detracts from the learning experience.
My go-to program for high school issues is the TV show GLEE. Every problem students encounter is addressed. All of the people have clothes on that look like they are in school - not a camping trip or vacation.
Guess why private schools are so popular - parents pay big prices but the kids are learning how to function in the adult world.
That is why the court system is telling the people who work at the courthouse to dress appropriately to show respect for themselves and the people who come in.
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