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Oct 5, 2011 at 10:59 am #1280194
I'm wondering what footgear people have used for the Bailey Range traverse including going over the glaciers around Mount Olympus and what their experience was with their choices with respect to side hilling, glacier hiking, and days of rain and heavy dew. Has someone had experience with trail runners and gortex socks? Did someone use boots that stayed dry in days of rain and left your feet in good shape? I'm interested in the gear used on this specific traverse which is challenging in the length of the trip, the diversity of terrain, and how wet it can get.Oct 5, 2011 at 11:15 am #1787017
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@woodenwizardLocale: NePoOct 5, 2011 at 2:22 pm #1787098
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@biointegraLocale: Puget Sound
Hi Reed,
That is indeed a challenge. I wish I had specifics to offer, but I am rather in the same place of strategizing myself with eyes on this traverse as well. The relatively moderate temperatures and wet (understatement) approach should make for a serious footwear test.
What time of year are you planning for?Oct 5, 2011 at 3:24 pm #1787118
Hi Jeff. Thanks for the pointer and that is an excellent article. As gould points out though the traverse is warm, wet, glacial, alpin cross country, and long and the article is more geared towards winter and cold. Mostly I'm looking for some real world experiences of that particular set of conditions to help temper the ideas the article contains.
With respect to time of year, it would be the summer. July through mid September. Sometimes its 10 days of sun and other times well it can be days of pouring cold rain.Oct 5, 2011 at 3:48 pm #1787124
Steve CainMember
@hoosierdaddyLocale: Western Washington
Hi Reed,
I did the Bailey's in July of 2005. It didn't rain while I was out there, but there were several snow traverses and getting one's feet wet while descending the Snow Finger.
I wore Merrill Ventilators on that trip and frankly it was hot enough I was VERY glad that I was wearing breathable boots to allow circulation. (It was over 100 degrees on one day!) I was more glad to NOT to have been wearing low cut trail runners though. The never ending side hilling was bad enough on the ankles with the mid-height Ventilators, I can only imagine that if you didn't have some kind of extra ankle support, your ankles would surely revolt by day #2.
The Bailey Range is a very special place. When you go, take your time, take lots of pictures and beware of the Cream Lake Vortex!
Here is a link to my trip report that I posted on Washington Trails Assn: http://www.wta.org/go-hiking/trip-reports/tripreport-2005071620
If you want to see the pics that are attached to the TR, here is the "new" link: http://outdoors.webshots.com/album/406158662cbyngm
PM me if you'd like specific trail information.Oct 5, 2011 at 6:28 pm #1787180
Douglas RayMember
@dirtbagclimberLocale: Pacific Northwest
Above is an article about a trip I did in the Bailey Range in '07. It included Olympus, along with some other cool places. The high traverse between Olympus a bear pass was maybe the more technical section, with quite a bit of 45+degree hard snow.
I wore some heavy, old-school leather mountaineering boots. We had great weather and the boots were fine, although heavy.
If I were to go back today I would take a pair of light synthetieic mountaineering boots. The supportive, stiff, close-fitting platform is of great help in that sort of terrain and does make the whole trip safer than a more flexible shoe IMHO. They will not be very nice on the approach, and honestly they are lousy at handling moisture, but you can travel all of that terrain with wet feet in the summer without much serious risk. The issue of falling or injuring an ankle in more breathable but less supportive footwear is in my opinion a greater hazard.
I wish the makers of such boots would leave out the goretex, as it reduces the breathability but always stops being waterproof long before the boot is worn out. I'd rather have a breathable boot and either use some sort of waterproof sock in cold and wet or a waterproof supergaiter.Oct 6, 2011 at 11:10 am #1787373
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@biointegraLocale: Puget Sound
Most gore-tex liners could theoretically be cut-out if you wanted to do so. I have an old pair lying around I may just try that with.
My standard mountaineering boots are an older model of Garmont Tower GTX. They are about 2lb. 14 oz. for the pair, if I remember correctly. I have done plenty of approaches in them and they have a decent balance of flexibility and sole stiffness.Oct 6, 2011 at 5:26 pm #1787521
Ben WMember
@bpwoodLocale: NW Center for Volcano-Aided Flight
I have not done the Bailey Range, but did a conventional Olympus-only climb 3 weeks ago (Sept 18ish). So I can speak a little to the wetness/snow + glacier aspect, but not to the rest of the route and its sidehilling, cliffs, etc. In general, my trip was easier on the feet/ankles than yours would be.
We spent the first few hours in the dark on Blue Glacier in wind and driving rain. According to the last forecast I'd heard, snow line was supposed to be hovering close enough to descend to our level, but it did not. Around sunrise, rain moved out and it was just windy the rest of the day. The three guys with me wore their hefty waterproof mountaineering boots.
Call me crazy (they did :), but I was wearing Salomon SpeedCross 2 shoes (no gore-tex) with crampons and old non-waterproof busted-up Threshold gaiters, and light Smartwool PhD or similar socks (ankle height). My feet obviously got wet, but never cold, although I did make a preemptive switch to a heavier pair of PhD socks (medium? weight hiking socks) + some high-tech VBL (plastic bags, but outside socks) a couple hours in because I was a little worried they might go towards cold territory, as the weather was causing a lot of standing around while trying to navigate. Moving feet are warm feet in my experience, but standing feet can cool. They stayed plenty warm and the new pair of socks/liners worked fine and later I contemplated switching back, but didn't have a long enough break at the right time. After the rain stopped and the sun came up, my shoes were mostly dry (or not noticeably wet) for most of the rest of the day. Back at camp, I had not even a hot spot. The boot-wearers had a combined litany of painful-looking blisters and abrasions. 1 or 2 of them had also suffered cold feet (the literal, not the figurative, variety) during the climb. (I suspect due to tight boots cutting down some circulation?) Take this as a report of what happened to our feet, not a sermon.
Caveats (lots):
I weighed this choice of footwear very carefully beforehand, consider expected conditions, unexpected conditions, and previous experience. It worked for me, but I would not have recommended it for my companions, for example.
Now, if I was carrying a heavier pack, I likely would have gone for boots for the support with crampons and potentially hard snow, crampons on rocks (yuck, hard on the ankles), etc., but really, my feet appreciate shoes over boots as long as they're carrying weight within a reasonable window of my own.
Also, from my experience, I suspect I have more resilient ankles than others.
And I'm a newbie to the mountaineering end of things, reluctant to let my light backpacking style slide. Don't listen to me. :) Listen to these other guys with way more experience.
But for the approach (obviously much tamer than the Bailey Traverse), shoes hands down.
On a previous trip that included 2 days straight of snow/rain/wind on tamer terrain, the wet feet in mesh trail runners were annoying, but not cold. And the SpeedCross setup also worked on Baker, but the conditions were tamer there.Oct 7, 2011 at 9:37 pm #1787959
I'm curious how many people will respond with some version of the trailshoe/gortex sock/crampon combo. I've been using climbing boots for off trail/glacier traverses in the past but I'm curious about people's experiences who have been pushing the hiking ultralight perspective into the cross country/modest glacier traverse realm.
With respect to weight our base weight will be less than 15 lbs including glacier gear (Normally I'm at under 9lbs base weight but the larger pack, bear canisters, and glacier gear bring that up to the 13 to 15 range) and under 30lbs including food for 11 days. We'll start at Aurora Creek to Boulder Lake and through Cat Basin so by the time we are on the cat to ferry traverse we will be in the mid 20's with respect to weight and by the time we're on the the glaciers we'll be down to the high teens. So I don't think pack weight will play a deciding role in shoe selection.Oct 13, 2011 at 8:54 pm #1790327
Let me see if I can write a summary of what I've heard on both here and in other places on this topic in the hopes that someone else considering this decision may find this useful.
The Bailey Range is a cross country traverse that is mainly on paths if you're on route and on steep, rocky, and often grassy slopes if you're off route, which often happens. We'll call it class 4 grass. The snow and glacier section going over mount Olympus are mainly snow with occasional slopes up to 45 degrees. The snow on the glaciers is moderate up to 45 degrees and is generally kick stepable although in some years ice may be present.
Let's start with the hiking shoe/gortex sock/spikes or crampon approach. People do it. They do it because they like the light weight on their feet, the comfort, and the lack of blisters. However, the people who do it are experienced hikers and climbers and in particular they are people who are experienced with using this combination on other cross country and climbing routs. The bailey range is not the place to try out the light shoe strategy. It is only a wise choice if you've already used such a strategy many times on weekend trips off trail and up glaciated peaks.
On the other hand, if you have to ask the question then you don't have enough experience with light weight trail shoes to use them on the Bailey travers. You should be using a lightweight alpine boot or a hiking boot which will provide much more stability, security, and foot protection. Yes, they weigh 3 lbs and they are hard on your feet. You'll want to bring hydropel and leukotape for your blisters. But they work.Oct 19, 2011 at 7:30 pm #1792751
Brian AustinMember
@footeabLocale: Pacific Northwest
2 sets of "mountaineering boots"
3/4 or full shank boots that ride your heels where for all intensive purposes your only route is to apply tape BEFORE putting boots on. NOT after you already have a blister! Tape will last 2 days before needing to be reapplied. Honestly this type of boot really only needs to be worn when on steep snow/ice constantly. VBL should be used. The Bailey traverse is NOT this kind of country.
1/2 shank boots or "no shank" boots with a stiff sole. A proper fitting boot will not give blisters. Those who don't have a proper fitted boot or broken in boot most certainly WILL have blisters. You know which one of these categories you fall into. Apply tape if the later group before you get blisters. Tape weight = 1oz or so. This was me last weekend with a pair of boots that weren't really broken in. Without tape which I already had in my pack, I stupidly gave myself a blister.
1/2 shank boots give Excellent side-hilling. Generally "mid top" style that honestly IMO don't give ANY ankle support. What they do is keep the debris out with gaiters that trail runners with gaiters don't. What they do is allow you to step on the edge of a rock and stand up-right without TWISTING your ankle in half. Trail runners or equivalent most certainly DO NOT allow you to do this. Also note the differnce between FULL mountaineering boot and 1/2. 1/2 give ankle protection from impact but not extra "structural" support, at least most of them. Yes, a bunch of tweeners in there. Sorry generalization.
Yes, I have run along hillsides in trail runners. One quickly, at least in my case, fervently wishes that they hadn't been so stupid as to leave "real" boots at home in such cases and "saving" myself 1lb, but giving myself 10lbs of grief. Think 25 degree plus heather and other "alpine plant" life locations or cliff sections you stumble across that you must traverse lower.
IMO trail runners belong… On the Trail not off in alpine plant life terrain. If rock hopping, then trail runners are fine, actually great IMO. The bailey traverse is NOT rock hopping terrain. Well it is, but there are Huge sections of alpine slippery plants to traverse.
Sorry, not so brief…
Lightest least grief combo IMO = lightest 1/2 shank or no shank stiff sole, above ankle, "boot" with a pair of VBL thin socks followed by thicker socks outside this and waxed boots keeping everything dry. Expecting such a boot to "breathe" IMO is expecting the government to actually address the Budget problem due to Social Absurdity and Medicaid where the promises are WAY above what reality is showing.Nov 21, 2011 at 11:05 am #1804052
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I'm planning on doing the full Bailey traverse in July 2012 from the North (starting at Sol Duc, throwing in Mt. Olympus summit bid also, & exiting on Hoh River trail). Because of Olympus, I'll use my La Sportiva Trango S boots. They're pretty light for mountaineering boots, and when further waterproofed, stay reasonably dry in gloppy snow or rain.
If I was skipping Olympus and thus didn't need stiffer crampon-compatible boots, I'd still probably take the lightest full height goretex hiking boots I've got. With all the sidehilling on this trip, I think trail runners would be murder on the ankles and gaiters wouldn't keep rocks out well. Also, I'd like more support due to the extra food weight, bear can & climbing gear. Lightweight mid-height boots would probably do OK if skipping the climbing.
I still like merino wool socks for almost all conditions. The Goretex socks I've tried are not breathable and make my feet sweaty = hot spots. I pre-tape all my likely hot spots these days, have gotten religion about gaiters, and change socks at halfway point each day, and usually have zero foot problems.
For rainy conditions and/or lower angle snow/ice travel, I've been experimenting with Innov-8 trail runners, combined with some Pearl Izumi rainproof, light insulation road cycling booties over them, and then if needed using CAMP 6Pt. aluminum crampons (very light) or Kahtoola Microspikes (depending upon snow/ice conditions). This has worked pretty well so far. I'd consider using this system for the Summer Bailey traverse (w/out Olymmpus) & just upgrade it with a light mid-height hiker for more ankle support. XC ski booties work too.
Good luck on your trip!Sep 13, 2012 at 12:34 pm #1912009
Jake MorrisonMember
wore Sandals most the way. Glacier and Snow crossing I changed into Vibram Five Fingers.
lots of photos: http://www.barefootjake.com/2012/09/alpine-bliss-30-days-in-onp-section-4.htmlSep 17, 2012 at 1:24 pm #1913014
Robert KellyBPL Member
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I wore trail runners and added Goretex socks in snow and MicroSpikes when I needed them for better traction on snowfields. We were on snow for about 3 days of the traverse in early September.
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Brett builds characters extremely well. He spends the entirety of "The Warded Man" developing fascinating personal histories for the three who will, presumably, be the prime movers in the action of the rest of the story. Their journeys are tortuous, often surprising and quite satisfying. By the end we know them intimately so that their every action is rooted in convincing personal history.
Unfortunately I did not find myself nearly so convinced of the reality of the world in which the author places his wonderful players. We are asked to believe that no one in this civilization has ever conceived of the most obvious responses to the plague of demons which terrorizes them. As a result, the whole structure of the story is weakened as we ask ourselves "why don't they just...." Of course they DO eventually "just...." But by asking us to assume a complete lack of imagination and initiative on the part of the entire population of the book, Brett immeasurably weakens his story and renders his marvelously drawn central characters slightly ridiculous.
The most important central conflict Brett paints in this book is between the people and their own immobilizing fear. At some moments that comes through clearly and powerfully, but fear and simple stupidity are two entirely different things.
"Surprised me and pulled me in against my will."
I was looking for more of a contemporary, post-apocalyptic fantasy book when I came across this novel. The synopsis was very intriguing and the narration in the sample wasn't bad, so I picked it up despite it not being what I was looking for. I expected to not make it very far in, as I tend to give up on books quickly if the first chapter can't hold my attention. I thought the demons would feel hokey and put me off to the rest of the story. Surprisingly, I found myself unable to put it down. The characters and world are well-detailed and quite engrossing. The narration is good as well. I liked it so much that once I was done with it instantly had to pick up the sequel, The Desert Spear.
"Good Fantasy Read"
Nice plot, with good characters, and I like the new premise of a "warded" man. Has a good history that should create an easily developed back story as the series continues.
Without question, one of the finest and most original books I have ever read.
This book was purchased on a whim and now I cannot wait until the next book. The originality of the world and the Corelings, as well as the marvelous character development make this a must read for anyone who enjoys Steven King et al.
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"refreshing fantasy for a non-fantasy reader"
i usually don't read/listen to a lot of epic fantasy, but this book has kind of changed my mind. i tend to gravitate to quick, action packed books, but those stories usually have one dimensional characters. so...looking for a change of pace, i searched for a highly rated book and ended up choosing this one. and boy did i hit the lottery!
at first, i regretted my decision b/c i thought, "oh, here we go again! another slow epic fantasy story." i had a slow weekend so i decided to stay with, and i am so glad b/c i was totally rewarded. before it ended, i had already downloaded the 2nd book, the desert spear.
the story opens with arlen who lives in a small town. life is hard. days are full of hard labor, but nights are worse. when te sun goes down, the corelings (demons) arise tormenting, killing, and eating anyone caught outside. the only protection comes from wards. people ave to draw/carve wards on their houses to create a barrier to kkeep the demons out. the humans are reduced to hiding behind their wards b/c regular weapons can't hurt the demons. so every night, arlen has to hide with his family as the fire, wood, and rock demons stalk their houses looking for holes in the wards.
the only excitement is when messengers and joglers come through towns. messengers bravely travel the roads delivering news, letters, and goods. joglers provide entertainment by dancing, telling stories, playing music, etc...
arlen's mom gets trapped outside as the sun goes down and ries to rescue her. arlen's father is too scared to help arlen, and arlen's mother is killed by a fire demon. arlen is disgusted by his father's cowardice and decides to run away. he tries to catch up to the messenger that just left his town but darkness falls before he can. he survives by drawing wards in the dirt. so starts arlen's story as he heads to the big city to learn how to become a messenger.
there are two other character's wwhose stories also get told. leesha and rojer. leesha and rojer also live in small towns. rojer's family is killed when their wards fail. only him and the drunk jongler survive. so, the jongler takes rojer with him to the city and raisres him. leesha is a young girl who is expected to be married and start having kids. people are constantly getting killed so girls are expected to marry and start having kids as soon as they have their period. yes, life is bleak. people hope the deliverer will return to show them how to fight against the corelings.
the first few hours are kind of slow, building the world and introducing the characters. after the initial stories are set up, the story seems to move faster as we see the characters start to develop. these 3 characters walk different paths, but my excitement keep building, waiting for their paths to cross. by that time, i was totally engrossed and had already downloaded book 2.
wow...what a ride! i enjoyed listening to the characters grow from being powerless, rejected, and dejected into confident, respected, and hopeful people determined to fight for their place in the world and willing to their fight the corelings.
definitely give this a try! hang in there, and you'll be rewarded with a great story.
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KNOXVILLE -- The Southeastern Conference in cooperation with its 14-member institutions announces the third "We Back Pat" Week, a week-long initiative focused on bringing awareness and recognition to the Pat Summitt Foundation, a fund of East Tennessee Foundation, and its fight against Alzheimer's disease.
During the week of January 19-26, SEC member institutions will offer support of The Pat Summitt Foundation during their home basketball games. At every SEC women's basketball game - 19 games in 13 cities - a variety of efforts including promotional public address announcements and video endorsements will help to increase awareness of the foundation and its mission. The Foundation offers the sale of "We Back Pat" t-shirts and wristbands as well as a number of autographed and specialty items on their website at www.patsummitt.org.
"We are pleased that the Southeastern Conference can once again play a small part in helping Pat reach her goals for The Foundation Fund." said SEC Commissioner Mike Slive. "Pat Summitt has been and will continue to be an important part of the SEC family."
Tennessee's home "We Back Pat" game will be on Jan. 23, as the Lady Vols welcome Florida to Knoxville for a 6:30 p.m. contest on SportSouth. UT encourages fans to wear their "We Back Pat" shirts in support of Pat Summitt and her battle with Alzheimer's. "We Back Pat" shirts and wrist bands will be available for purchase at the game.
A public service announcement and a support video from SEC coaches will be played during the game, and on-court check presentations will take place prior to tip-off.
ESPN also has announced that three Southeastern Conference (SEC) women's college basketball games across ESPN2 and ESPNU on Sunday, Jan. 26, will honor the former Tennessee coach as part of the SEC's "We Back Pat" initiative. No. 10 South Carolina will face Vanderbilt on ESPN2 and Auburn will play Florida on ESPNU - both at 2 p.m. - followed by No. 12 Tennessee against Texas A&M at 4 p.m., also on ESPN2.
"I am again honored and humbled that the Southeastern Conference schools are continuing to support the work of the Pat Summitt Foundation's fight against Alzheimer's. This annual SEC "We Back Pat" week brings great public awareness for our cause and helps raise funds for research, patient services and education," said Summitt.
"I want to thank the SEC and all the member institutions who are participating along with ESPN for their support. It means so much to Tyler and me that you have again joined us in our efforts. Together We Will Win."
The Pat Summitt Foundation Fund launched November 27, 2011 by Pat Summitt after her diagnosis of early onset dementia, Alzheimer's type at the age of 59. In a videotaped statement shown during the announcement of the Pat Summitt Foundation Fund, Pat Summitt said, "Tyler and I have decided to join this battle, not just for us, but also for the millions of families affected by this disease. I have always told our players, our greatest opportunities are disguised as our greatest obstacles. It is time to treat this obstacle as an opportunity and a stepping stone to a cure."
The Pat Summitt Foundation Fund will make grants to nonprofits which provide education and awareness of Alzheimer's, its onset and treatment; support services to patients, their families and caregivers; and research to treat, prevent, cure, and ultimately eradicate this disease.
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VERY rough right now, but I think the concept is solid.
I took one of my MR Boba casts and just started chopping.
I basically reversed the fix I did to the original MR. The visor was pinched in too tight at the bottom on the original. I pinched the top way back in to match that. I was able to narrow the front by about 1/4" just by adjusting that, without messing up the lines of the helmet. I want it a bit narrower still, so I'll have to build up some material.
I narrowed the horizontal part down to a slit with epoxy putty.
The most fun part is the cheeks. I cut out the old one, reshaped the remaining area a bit, and added in a Sintra panel. I've only extended the length of the front by about 1/4" or so, but it looks elongated like it should.
Take a look at Two-Face Fett over here...
The left side (in the pic) is the original shape. The right is the altered one. The helmet LOOKS really tall because of the changes, but it's not much different at all.
Added bonus - since the cheeks are not as deeply indented, it will be roomier too.
For about an hour of work so far I'm REALLY happy with how it's going. I think this will come out great.
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1-1/2 lbs ground beef
1/4 cup chopped onion
2 chopped green bell peppers
1 can corn, drained
1 can light kidney beans, drained
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Brown ground beef and half way through add the onions and peppers. Drain and return to pot. Add everything but seasoning. Top with water to get desired thinness, add seasoning to taste (I add both packs, but it may be too seasoned for some). Simmer and let the flavors mingle. Top with shredded cheese and fritos.


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Horde, cause no alliance races appeal to me.
Horde, cause no alliance races appeal to me.
Started Horde and was horde for quite some time, my first choice was a pure moment of "Haha, I can play a COW??". Then one day I realized that Horde side on my old server sucked, so I went Alliance in order to earn gold for crafted 264 boots. I hadn't been to any Alliance zones before that, and I was struck by the beauty, the feel of zones and cities, Duskwood, the Draenei etc. I just liked it way more than the Horde zones and cities, save for Thunder Bluff. I will always love that place. Also, I did NOT like "the feel" and attitude of players on Horde. This "we're evull"-thing. I just hate it, since a lot of players seem to forget that just because they're behind a big green brute, it doesn't give them the right to grief other players.
Ever since, I've considered Alliance my faction, and Horde the other faction, until MoP hit. Now I have about 50/50 ratio of toons on both sides. I have started playing RACES that I prefer. Goblin, tauren, dwarf, human, worgen, pandaren, gnome, undead, belf. Undead = the race I thought I'd never like. Their lore changed that for me.
So...I'm not with any faction, I'm with the game and I want to experience it to the fullest.
Why people want Classic back; In Classic, you'd be considered "hardcore" and "winning" at the game simply by reaching max level and having a few epics. You could be struggling to handle 2-ability bosses, yet still see kills.
To "be" something today, you need to meet requirements in knowledge, performance and even timelines, facing other players of equal skill or tackling bosses tuned for the 1% of the 1% to tackle whilst fresh.
Almost all Alliance. Most people I know play that, though first started as undead with a friend. I just... can't get into the Horde. They pretty much lose any claim of nobility through their alliance to undead. There's all of these plague experiments going on right under their noses and have not seen even the slightest protest. Or any in game reference to tauren disapproval of the despoiling of ashenvale etc. etc.
I didn't care about faction. Picked Forsaken because of Cannibalize. Picked mage because of portals and conjure food/water. That toon has been my main for 7 years.
I did roll Alliance alts on other servers when my realm was down, but none of them were very high.
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Alliance. Because, while my favorite faction back then was the orcs after WC 3, I wanted to play a mage. And my choices were: Undead (I hadn't finished frozen throne yet so I was like 'wtf are these playable undead and why the **** are they in the Horde?), troll (which I'm not a huge fan of), gnome (I hadn't played wc 2 and they weren't in 3 so I was like 'wtf are these gnome things and where are my high elves) or human. I went with human.
I started playing as Horde because my IRL friends that got me into the game were all Hordes on Blackrock
But if I had to do it all over again, I'd still be Horde.
Alliance , prefer the leaders and races they have. Tho i do think trolls are pretty awesome and blood elf lore. Wish worgens would get some love tho such a shame to see Gilneas go to waste
Horde all the way, only time I enjoy Alliance was in Warcraft I, been Horde since Warcraft II
I picked Horde because I used to play Alliance and realized that Alliance sucks and all of the PvE opportunity on my realm (Zul'jin US) is Horde. Best choice I ever made.
World of Warcraft was my first MMORPG as well as first PC game.
When I set up the 14-day trial (or was it 7?) during The Burning Crusades, I rolled a Human Rogue only because "rogue" sounded cool with visions of Han Solo in my head. I wanted to play a dastardly type of character. I had no clue about the role of classes and such. I got laughed at when I asked why I couldn't equip a shield but continued with it. Stabbing things was pretty fun. All was well and good until I reached Westfall and found it absolutely boring. The quests didn't keep my interest and the environment was in my opinion dull--orange farmland as far as the eye could see. I wanted something a little more exciting and that's when I thought, "Let's see what the Bad Guys are like." By Bad Guys, in my naivety, of course I meant the Horde.
"Whoa! I can be a zombie?" I rolled a Forsaken Warrior (who I noticed could use shields--I don't know what it was about my want to use a shield) and found the "lore" of the Forsaken extremely compelling. I was fighting ghosts and skeletons and giant spiders and bats and blue dog demons. I remember freaking out when I came upon the sight of my first Abomination and thought I was about to die... but then what? He's on my side? Gordo gave me a quest and when I delivered the weeds to his master, I laughed out loud at the big dunce for mixing up the names and having me collect the wrong weeds. These zombies known as the Forsaken were freakin' awesome guys and I was proud to be a part of them. I never went back to that Human Rogue.
Some time later, I found a guild and at one point they mentioned they needed a healer. I volunteered and glanced over the healer classes. Didn't like the idea of being a Priest, Paladin's were terrible healers at the time from what I was told, but a Shaman sounded mystical and interesting. I rolled a Troll thinking it was one of those little green guys in Booty Bay and guarding the Brill Zeppelin tower. They looked hilarious and sounded funny, and I liked the idea of being a tiny physical creature with great mystical healing powers. Imagine my surprise when I turned out to be one of the tallest playable races in the game. My disappointment almost made me want to return to the creation screen and delete him immediately, however something strange happened. As I was playing him, I noticed Durotar wasn't as fun or interesting that creepy zombie area but I was starting to fall in love with the look of my character and his animations. Casting was like shooting forth Hadoukens from Street Fighter 2. /train, which I learned quite early and enjoyed spamming, both looked and sounded absolutely hilarious on him. I enjoyed many of his other emotes as well, including /lol with the pointing of his finger. His Jamaican accent was charismatic and pleasing and warm, it put a smile on my face. So I decided to keep him and soon found that Shaman was THE class for me and is what I've been playing ever since.
I still enjoy playing a warrior (infact I have too many of them spread across different realms and different races) but in my heart, I'm a Darkspear Shaman for the Horde.
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When I first started out, I played a Night Elf druid. I based it solely on "Whoa, that robe she's wearing is pretty!" I started a Blood Elf Paladin later that day (to this day I can't stand playing druids). Mid-Cata I started playing Alliance again, but now I'm about 50/50. I'm 2nd string for my Rogue's guild, but I only PvP on my Paladin.
I like to think I play race over faction, but my choices are overwhelmingly Horde and I find it hard to level Alliance side.
I like the survivalist feel of the Horde, the underdogs. The tribal underpinnings. Something non-traditional from a fantasy game standpoint. I've never been impressed by knights in shining armor or any of the traditional hero or pretty princess stuff. I want to play something outlandish and misunderstood. I relate better struggling to survive in a world that doesn't want me, to being dismissed as a monster or lesser thing by people who aren't any better than I am.
The Alliance feels...privileged to me for lack of a better word. Less sympathetic. I can't relate to it nor do I find it particularly interesting... Cept Dwarves. Dwarves are awesome. And even my Dwarf I RP as a Dark Iron who is a recovering Twilight Cultist and certainly not traditionally beautiful. I like Draenei too but in part because they're so out of place and literally alien. Especially the males. I find them charming.
I am Horde. At the time when I was super young, I chose it because all of my friends who played were Horde, and we HATED the Alliance. Now I am very indifferent, have played a little Alliance over the years, but mainly have stuck with the Horde because I love the Forsaken.
Horde all the way...Why? because of The Forsaken, that's why!!!
I can't play any othe race unless it was Undead
Horde, and the reason are:
We'z da biggest an' da strongest.
We'z made fer fightin' an' winnin'.
We'z got more boyz dan anyone else.
All an ork eva wantz to do fo'eva iz to keep fightin', winnin', an' lootin'.
We'z already know everythin' wotz worth learnin'.
Green iz da orkiest colah.
Unlike dem 'umiez, greyskins, an' panzees, anyone can be a warboss usin' nofin' more den a choppa an' a litl bit o' dakka.
Lastly, an' most importantly, da mane reezun it rokkz ta be an Ork iz dis:
Annoying da boyz on ventrillo wit yell'in:
It's history and races just appeal to me. I have played both sides extensively, just can't stand the Alliance.
I'm not going there to die. I'm going to find out if I'm really alive. I have to.
Alliance, because it was the faction my friend played at the time, although the horde races appealed to me more at the time (and I got pissed at my friend who said I couldn't choose those or else we wouldn't be able to play together), now I have characters on both factions, but my mains are on alliance


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Gillian Ansell's introduction on Sunday to Haydn's String Quartet Op 20 no 2 was a model of well-measured eloquence, launching a concert that would begin in an 18th-century drawing room and end in a 20th-century concert hall.
The New Zealand String Quartet had the Haydn to itself and, after some slightly unsettled intonation, the opening Moderato displayed all the zest and authority we have come to expect from these musicians.
Ansell had promised a touch of the operatic in the second movement and her colleagues followed it through with an appropriately theatrical dash.
The Minuetto came with a sense of humour that almost tipped into Scherzo territory; the final Fugue was modelled in silvery whispers.
Peter Scholes came on stage for Weber's Clarinet Quintet, praising the composer for taking on the challenge of the genre and promising us heaps of fun. It was just that, as Scholes rippled merrily through the showy passagework of the three fast movements.
With the rich sonorities of the strings behind him, he drew some remarkable poetry from the Adagio. Here was the Weber whose Oberon Overture, back in 1826, was a harbinger of the new Romanticism.
Osvaldo Golijov is a composer whose works are not as well known on our concert programmes as they should be. His 1992 The Dreams and Prayers of Isaac the Blind, calls for klezmer clarinet and strings to invoke a 40-minute portrait of Jewish history and culture in music.
Helene Pohl chipped into Scholes' spoken introduction, assuring us there would be dancing as well as dreaming and praying. Sure enough, all along the way exhilarating outbursts might well have tempted some to dance an energetic hora.
Elsewhere, the musicians laid out a radiant and volatile cloak of colours. Scholes, with four instruments, covered a gamut of ranges and styles. Alongside him, the NZSQ evoked everything from dance band to breathy accordion.
What: Dreams and Prayers by The New Zealand String Quartet
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Everyone has rights, including online. APC documents trends, advocates for freedom of expression/information & trains human rights defenders to use the internet securely.
The adoption of the first-ever resolution on women human rights defenders by the United Nations General Assembly's Third Committee is a step forward in protecting those who face risks and attacks for their work to promote human rights, including women's rights, Amnesty International (AI), the Association for Women's Rights in Development (AWID), the International Service for Human Rights (ISHR), and JASS (Just...
Front Line Defenders has released its fourth Annual Report on Global Challenges facing Human Rights Defenders around the World in 2012.
The report explores the situation on both the global and regional level including several countries examined in focus namely: Burundi, Vietnam, Guatemala Kazakhstan and Algeria. It highlights the 'unabated' targeting of human rights defenders for their work documenting abuses, exposing corruption, or pushing for reform.
This kit contains short guides for human rights defenders who find themselves in emergencies related to communication and digital security. As guides are being added, individual sections of following scheme become interactive. While the kit does not provide exhaustive guidelines on how to respond to specific situations, it does suggest concrete steps, further resources and references to support groups to whom activists can turn to for further assistance.
In celebration of UN Human Rights Day this December 10th the Urgent Responses Working Group of the Women Human Rights Defenders (WHRD) International Coalition, in collaboration with AWID, are releasing the Recommendations to Enhance the Protection and Security of WHRDs
Uganda's Anti-Homosexuality Bill could be passed into law imminently. It is scheduled for debate in the coming days, paving the way for the Bill to be passed by Parliament. Activists in Uganda and across the world have managed to stop the Bill in its tracks before. Let's do it again!
The Bill has been revived at a time of diminishing space for enjoyment of human rights in Uganda. Groups opposed to the government have been banned from holding demonstrations and those who express...
On the occasion of November 29th, Women Human Rights Defenders Day, the Women Human Rights Defenders International Coalition stands in solidarity with the hundreds of thousands of women activists around the world who – with exemplary courage, determination, and strength, uphold women's human rights, the rights of communities, and of the environment.


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I want Bullock.. final choice, lights out shooter and can guard his position.. fills a need at SF also
option B is Franklin
Tim Hardaway Jr.
Mood: WOOF!
The freaking Nets are gonna be really tough this yr. Adding Pierce and Garnett to go with Deron Williams, Joe Johnson and Brook Lopez! Jesus!
Knicks were in a position this year where any position selected would have filled a need. Glad they picked BPA, but it's going to be strange hearing the name Tim Hardaway amicably announced by Walczewski at the Garden. Some of the most heartbreaking games I've seen there came at the hands of his father.


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UTSA Athletics hosts Roadrunner Ruckus Oct. 17
By Kyle Stephens
Sports Information Director
(Oct. 15, 2008)--UTSA Athletics will celebrate the start of the 2008-09 basketball season with Roadrunner Ruckus on Friday, October 17, at the Convocation Center on the 1604 Campus.
The festivities begin with a tailgate party at 6 p.m. in front of the Convocation Center. Free food and drinks will be given out while supplies last.
Today's headlines
- La Prensa Foundation is newest member of UTSA Lone Star Society
- UTSA alumna Jordan Kaufmann wins $50K for new stent-graft start-up
- UTSA begins new way-finding sign installation this summer at Main Campus
- USA Today: UTSA long jumper Tyler Williamson rescues three-year-old boy
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Doors will open at 7:30 p.m. and free shirts will be given to UTSA students with a valid UTSACard. On the way in, fans also can pick up glow-in-the-dark necklaces and glow sticks, as well as thunder sticks.
Roadrunner Ruckus will showcase the men's and women's basketball teams and give fans a chance to see their favorite players in a new light. The teams will compete in a 3-point contest and in a slam-dunk competition, where the crowd gets to be the judge.
There also will be special performances by the UTSA Cheerleaders and Chaparelle Danceline, as well as high-flying fun from an acro-dunk team.
Friday, Oct. 17 will be a night no one wants to miss!


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Pequot Lakes girl is waiting for a mentor
Before a child is enrolled in Kinship Partners and the search for a mentor begins, a thorough interview is done with the parent/guardian and child.
We discuss topics such as interests, family background, academic performance and the child's health history. Another revealing question asked of every child is, "Why do you want a Kinship Partner?"
Many of our kids cite a desire to experience new activities and to be with other people outside of family. Specific responses include, "So it feels like I have a real dad" and "I was so close to my grandpa and really miss having him around."
Ten-year-old Kristi stated simply, "To get away."
Kristi lives with her dad and three siblings in Pequot Lakes. She does fairly well in school and especially enjoys science experiments and art.
Kristi has also been involved in basketball and soccer. In addition to sports, she is a tomboy at heart, loves animals and would like to learn to ride a horse.
But this fifth-grader has also been a victim of bullying and she doesn't have much contact with her mother. These situations have been hard on her.
Kristi looks forward to getting away with her mentor to go fishing, attend movies or do some baking together.
Kinship Partners serves families in Crow Wing and southern Cass counties and the Staples/Motley area by providing positive role models to youth ages 5 to 14. Offices are in Brainerd, Pequot Lakes, Crosby and Staples.
For more information about Kristi or any of the kids on the waiting list, call 218-454-8016 or 877-730-5437. Visit www.kinshippartners.org.


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This week's TimeOut contains a Big Rock Read about the electric eclectic era of Toy Love on the occasion of them receiving the New Zealand Herald Legacy Award at tonight's Tuis.
But compared to the BRRs that have been stacking up on my desk - the books editor has been tossing them Valerie Adams-like over the office divide on a regular basis - our cover story is a mere tweet.
The avalanche of BRRs this year may be partly down to the success of Keith Richards' rollicking read Life from 2010, which nicely predated the endless silver jubilee celebrations for his deathless band.
I have taken it up on myself to work my way through this stack of rock bios and say something useful about each. Some I finished. Some I thumbed. Some I threw back. Here goes ...
The Wild Life and Mad Genius of Mick Jagger by Christopher Andersen (Robson); Mick Jagger by Philip Norman (Harper Collins): These aren't the first Jagger biographies - Andersen's is an update of an earlier effort.
It's Jagger for Dummies which has the faint whiff of old news clippings. The book from Norman, who wrote the Beatle-book Shout! among many others, has a higher and deeper regard for his subject and is far more engaging. Neither are as good a read as Keef's memoirs though. Or Bill Wyman's for that matter. Oh and Mick's agent just rang to ask how high his autobiography advance is now ...
Waging Heavy Peace by Neil Young (Penguin Viking): This one I finished. Maybe because I kept waiting for it to start. Young seems to have taken "autobiography" as an instruction to write about his cars. And train set. And his family. Sometimes his music. And how digital music sounds no good. And his cars. And repeat ...
Light and Shade Conversations with Jimmy Page by Brad Tolinksi (Virgin Books): If you ever thought the most interesting member of Led Zeppelin was in fact, John Paul Jones, or Robert Plant ... well, you might be right.
Prince by Matt Thorne (Faber and Faber): Thorne is apparently an accomplished novelist but it's obvious from this tome that his calling is being the world's greatest Prince-bore. His 500-word biography claims to do for his once-prolific purple funkiness what Ian MacDonald's wonderfully definitive Revolution in the Head did for the music of the Beatles. It might have, had the author not spent so many dull pages dumping on us every bit of minutiae from his years of research and yet another account what it's like lining up at yet another exclusive Prince after-party. Sometimes Prince doesn't show, but that doesn't stop the hype. The book's a bit like that too.
Who I Am by Pete Townshend (Harper Collins): A hefty slog of an autobiography from rock's original troubled genius. It might have looked like fun being Pete Townshend - apparently his boyhood dance lessons helped him with his windmill-guitar and amp-smashing technique in later life - but no, apparently it hasn't been. Maybe it gets better after Woodstock ...
Rod The Autobiography by Rod Stewart (Random House): A very Keef-like memoir. Touching and often hilarious. Found myself wanting to marry him. He must get that a lot.
I'm Your Man: The Life of Leonard Cohen by Sylvie Simmons (Random House): I haven't finished this one yet but I will. The writing is lovely and biographer Simmons has worked out the trick of letting her subject have a say - but not too much - about his life in a series of interlaced interviews. He's the quietest in this bunch but he makes the greatest volume.
* nzherald.co.nz will have full coverage of tonight's awards, including a live blog, photo galleries, videos, interviews and all the winners as they come to hand. Join us here from 5pm.
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Pledging Allegiance to United Technologies
Already a leading global supplier when it acquired GE Security, United Technologies Corp. (UTC) has spent more than a year reorganizing its Fire & Security division. Global Security Products President Kelly Romano emphasizes the manufacturer's commitment to the industry, tells what's in store for top brands Interlogix and Lenel, dispels channel conflict concerns, and states why integrators should partner with UTC.
By Scott Goldfine · September 4, 2011
When United Technologies Corp. (UTC) announced plans to acquire GE's languishing security business for $1.82 billion near the end of 2009, it sent shockwaves through the industry. Having entered security just six years prior, UTC had swiftly and boldly positioned its Fire & Security division as a world leader in those technologies, products and services. After spending a year restructuring and completing the massive GE integration, UTC Fire & Security is ready to assert itself in the marketplace.
To carry out that mission, in May of this year, Kelly Romano was appointed president of Global Security Products within UTC Fire & Security. Although a newcomer to security when she joined the division in 2010, Romano brings more than 25 years of rock-solid experience in building systems. She earned her stripes in sales, marketing, general management and executive capacities for Carrier, UTC's HVAC business, including president of Building Systems and Services from 2006-2009.
Romano now heads up a group that offers a broad range of security and life-safety products, enterprise software solutions, electronic locks, and key management systems through well-known brands like Interlogix, Lenel, Supra and Onity. Of particular significance to dealers and integrators are Interlogix — a prime part of the GE deal — and Lenel. All told, in less than a decade, UTC has integrated more than 60 acquisitions into its Fire & Security operations, which employs approximately 4,500 people worldwide. In 2010, the business accounted for $6.5 billion of its parent's $54 billion net sales.
Despite its formidable size, resources, brands and leading technologies, several challenges confront Romano and UTC Fire & Security. Longtime installing company customers, many tracing back to the trusted manufacturers that were consolidated into Interlogix even before GE paid $777 million for it in 2002, are wondering if and how new ownership is going to restore the luster.
How much of a priority will fire and security be within the larger UTC universe? What will become of seemingly redundant product lines? Will favorite brand names vanish? Will there be upheaval among sales and technical support people? What about channel conflict with service providers? What will be done to ensure technological innovation?
As if all that were not enough, there's the matter of America still being enmeshed in a depressed and unstable economy. However, not only does Romano unflinchingly answer these tough questions and many others, she also explains in detail the reasons why UTC and its strategic partners are likely to achieve great success together.
Can you explain some of the differences as well as similarities of security compared to your background in HVAC with Carrier?
Kelly Romano: The more I get into the security industry the more I love it and the opportunity it presents. It's a very dynamic, technology-driven, rapidly changing industry. I see lots of opportunity for a world-leading company like UTC to make a big difference to customers in this space. Like Carrier, UTC Fire & Security really depends on strong relationships with strategic partners and distributors.
After 25 years with Carrier, a lot of people said, "Oh, Kelly, that's a big change going from Carrier to UTC Fire & Security." Frankly, the industry structure is very similar. Who did I work with at Carrier? Dealers, distributors, contractors, more on the mechanical side than the electrical side, consulting engineers and building owners. I come over to UTC Fire & Security and I'm working with the same kind of industry structure — dealers and distributors. We call some of them strategic partners or VARs [value-added resellers]. We certainly have consulting engineers in the fold and building owners. So they are very similar industry structures that I had at Carrier.
The key in my mind is all about the relationship with customers and that channel strategy. Clearly, technology plays a very important role. But we can have the best technology, and if we don't have strong partnerships and customer relationships we won't get to where we want to be.
What about the cross-over potential and opportunities between the two?
Romano: Whether we are talking about building owners, commercial-type customers or the residential side of the homeowner or consumer, the end customer needs are very similar. They want reliable product performance, high quality installations, on-time delivery, they need us to be competitive, they need the best industry experts. There is a growing need for connectivity between the HVAC side, the fire side, security, video, even elevator controls, as building owners want to be able to control the system from a single point so that building management systems are simpler and easier for the owners to manage. I see some of these systems coming together over time.
Looking at the residential side, we're seeing more applications for temperature control within the home, so there could be opportunities to integrate HVAC technologies from Carrier with our residential intrusion systems.
Do you see traditional security installers branching into HVAC or is HVAC branching into security?
Romano: That's yet to be determined, but it presents an opportunity on both sides. It's partly driven by the sophistication and forward-thinking of the dealer and the partner side of business. I know we are doing some pilot integrating of Carrier's ALC Automated Logic control system with the Lenel OnGuard system to drive down energy consumption.
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A 410 saiga is little differant. The barrel is shrouded on the top over the bullet guide to feed the round. I have one Ill post some picks later.
Im planning on doing a 410 barrel possable for my switch barrel build. also now planing a smokeless powder muzzel loader barrel for it as well.
brass shotgun shells can be had and can be made rimless and would allow a standard bolt to be used if opend up to 308 win sizes. 444 marlin brass can be converted into
410,and even 30-06 brass can be converted into rimless 410. I sugessted a 410 SGFH type round with a protruding .45 rifle bullet here a about a year ago.


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When I was a kid in wood shop, we used a glue which came as a powder. When mixed with water, it became an extremely strong and waterproof glue which we used on all of our projects, including model sailboats. I have been trying to find a glue of this type in all of the hardware and lumber stores here in N.W. Misery, but the clerks look blank and say they never heard of anything like it.
Does anyone know whether this type of wood glue is still produced, and if so, where to buy it?
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Cheerful Studio with Wi-Fi
Size28 m²
Floor No.1
- Kitchen
- Washer/dryer
- Internet/WiFi
- Indoor fireplace
- Family/child friendly
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|Rue Saint-Sauveur, 75002 Paris, France
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Welcome to this comfortable and furnished studio of 28m2 on the first floor. Decorated in a simple and elegant way, the studio features a kitchen with all utensils, coffee maker, microwave, refrigerator with freezer, toaster, coffee machine, kettle, washing machine, a part bar, linen and crockery provided. The bathroom is equipped with a bath, washbasin and hairdryer. For maximum comfort, it also has a breakfast nook with table and chairs, TV, DVD, Wi-Fi, iron and ironing board, electric heating. For the party night he has a cabinet with a very comfortable bed.
This building is located in the heart of the shopping and pedestrian street. It is only five minutes from Châtelet, this pedestrian paradise of food lovers, ideal for a stroll in the afternoon. The Quartier Montorgueil has been for long the stronghold of the creators. The shops adjacent to those well-known chains sell unique pieces made by some rising young designers. All styles are present, the quality craftsmanship in the cozy lounge of the major brands, the Montorgueil district is a mixed of trend and furiously.
House rulesA security deposit is required at the check-in. The deposit will be returned at the end of your stay.
Can you also tell us of your arrival and departure time and your place of arrival (airport, train station ...). To welcome you in the best conditions, you can send us a message on your arrival to Paris.
Check-in after 20h or before 9am are charged with an extra-fee: 20.00€.
|Weekly rate for up to 4 guests
|£ 514
|Monthly rate for up to 4 guests
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Reviews of this property
A bit small for 4 grown people, but perfect for our family of 4 (2 adults, 2 small kids). The location of this apartment is superb, just a stone's throw away from a street with the most amazing little café's, bakery's and other interesting little shops. Even though you're very close to restaurants and bars that will entertain you until the early morning, the street you're located in is actually quiet and calm at night, which means you'll get a good night's sleep. Public transportation is just around the corner and Pascal is a great host. Definitely recommended.
The attention by Pascal is very good and the location of the appartment is the best. Maybe the only complain would be the space. It is a bit uncomfortable for 4 persons. And the shower could improve. But next time in Paris, we will stay there for sure.
Apartment conveniently located near the Louvre and other attractions in a shopping and pedestrian area.
Quiet street, quiet residence. Ideal for cramped room for 3 bath and bed upstairs mezzanine better suited for a teen or adult, for a short stay.
Appartement idéalement situé près du Louvre et autres sites touristiques, dans un quartier commerçant et piétonnier.
Rue tranquille, résidence calme. Idéal pour 3 car salle de bain exigüe, et lit à l'étage en mezzanine mieux adapté pour un ado ou adulte, pour un court séjour.
Great location and for a few days foursome perfectly adequate! We had a nice stay! Settlement has worked very well!
Super Lage und für ein paar Tage zu viert völlig ausreichend! Wir hatten einen schönen Aufenthalt! Abwicklung hat sehr gut funktioniert!
The location is the best you can find in Paris. Central area from which you can walk to some of the main attractions of the city. Served by three underground stations. Pascal is very helpful and kind. The apartment is very small but the rest is used only for sleeping. Paris is beautiful.
L'ubicazione è quanto di meglio si possa trovare a Parigi. Zona centralissima dalla quale è possibile raggiungere a piedi alcune della attrazioni principali della citta. Servita da ben tre stazioni della metropolitana. Pascal è molto disponibile e gentile. L'appartamento è molto piccolo ma del resto viene utilizzato solo per dormirci. Parigi è bellissima.
We were 4 people, for a few days, the accommodation ranges from completely. The area is very central to reach close to the subway and to all points of interest very well. The apartment was clean, the toilet unfortunately too narrow and the sink while super modern but not really cheap. Pascal was very friendly and helpful, especially reliable. All the best.
Wir waren 4 Personen, für ein paar Tage reicht die Unterkunft völlig aus.
Die Gegend ist sehr zentral, nah zur U-Bahn und zu allen Sehenwürdigkeiten
sehr gut zu erreichen.
Das Apartment war sauber, die Toilette leider zu eng und der Waschbecken zwar supermodern aber nicht wirklich günstig.
Pascal war sehr freundlichen und hilfsbereit, vor allem zuverlässig.
Alles Gute.
Top apartment in a great location ... Highly recommended
Top Appartement in einer Top Lage... Sehr empfehlenswert
A very nice and clean apartment, like in the pictures. Centrally located and yet very quiet. Comfortable folding bed and up to a big pot of spaghetti for example, all present (even a washing machine, iron and ironing board). Very nice host. Everything went well with the arrival and access to the apartment. Any time.
Eine sehr schöne und saubere Wohnung, wie auf den Bildern. Zentral gelegen und trotzdem sehr ruhig. Bequemes Klappbett und bis auf einen grossen Topf für z.B. Spaghetti alles vorhanden (sogar Waschmaschine, Bügelbrett und Bügeleisen). Sehr netter Gastgeber. Hat auch mit der Ankunft und Zugang zur Wohnung alles geklappt. Jederzeit wieder.
The appartement is very nice and clean. Espacially the bathroom is pretty small, though, which means you have to be pretty flexible or very slim to get into the shower. At night it is quiet in the house and on the street. Shopping and dining is everywhere around, to Metro it is just a view minutes walk. Next time in Paris we will stay here again.
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Nisswa Women's Club to meet April 18
The Nisswa Women's Club will hold its monthly membership meeting at noon Thursday, April 18, with a social time from 11:30 a.m. to noon, at the Breezy Point Marina II at Breezy Point Resort.
The program, "Miracle in Wadena," will be presented by Cindy Wood, tornado survivor.
Hostesses for the meeting are Becky Stover, Pat Moore Johnson, Marty Urban, Betty Bruning and Audrey Wessman. Jeanyne Hess will give the inspirational.
Tickets for the 30th annual fashion show/luncheon hosted by the Nisswa Women's Club, as well as raffle tickets, will be available for purchase at the meeting. Tickets to the event, which will be Tuesday, May 28, at Madden's Resort on Gull Lake, are $35 per person or $350 for a table of 10.
Raffle tickets are $5 for five tickets. Among many additional raffle prizes, the raffle grand prize is a white-gold, green quartz diamond halo style ring with a matching necklace from Merritt Jewelers, Pequot Lakes.
The Nisswa Women's Club fashion show/luncheon is its main fund-raiser for local scholarships and charitable donations.


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Samson Abramsky
Professor Samson Abramsky FRS
Room 206, Wolfson Building, Parks Road, Oxford OX1 3QD
I have worked in a wide range of areas in the semantics and logic of computation, including concurrency, domain theory (especially domain theory in logical form), lambda calculus, semantics of programming languages, and abstract interpretation and program analysis. I have played a leading role in the development of game semantics and its applications to the semantics of programming languages, in interaction categories, and in geometry of interaction, and connections with traced monoidal categories and realizability. Over the past decade, I have become increasingly interested in connections between computer science and other scientific disciplines. I believe that the distinctive methods of computer science, above all compositional semantics and logic, have much to offer across a broad sweep of the physical and biological sciences, and to the modelling of complex systems. My first detailed venture into this new territory has been in the field of quantum information and computation.
I have been working on high-level methods for quantum computation and information. I pioneered categorical quantum mechanics with Bob Coecke. More recently, I have been working on a unified sheaf-theoretic approach to non-locality and contextuality. This has led to a number of developments, including a novel classification of mulitpartite entangled states, cohomological characterizations of non-locality and contextuality, a novel characterization of no-signalling involving signed measures (negative probabilities), and a unifying principle for Bell inequalities. There are also striking connections with a number of topics in computer science, including relational database theory, computational complexity and dependence logic. This is ongoing work, with a number of collaborators including Adam Brandenburger, Lucien Hardy, Shane Mansfield, Rui Soares Barbosa, Ray Lal, Phokion Kolaitis, Georg Gottlob, and Jouko Vaananen.
Samson Abramsky is Christopher Strachey Professor of Computing and a Fellow of Wolfson College, Oxford University. Previously he held chairs at the Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine, and at the University of Edinburgh.
He holds MA degrees from Cambridge and Oxford, and a PhD from the University of London.
He is a Fellow of the Royal Society (2004), a Fellow of the Royal Society of Edinburgh (2000), a Member of Academia Europaea (1993), and a Fellow of the ACM (2014). He is a member of the Editorial Boards of the North Holland Studies in Logic and the Foundations of Mathematics, and of the Cambridge Tracts in Theoretical Computer Science. He was General Chair of LiCS 2000-2003, and is currently a member of the LiCS Organizing Committee.
His paper ``Domain theory in Logical Form'' won the LiCS Test-of-Time award (a 20-year retrospective) for 1987. The award was presented at LiCS 2007. He was awarded an EPSRC Senior Research Fellowship on Foundational Structures and Methods for Quantum Informatics in 2007.
He was the Clifford Lecturer at Tulane University in 2008.
He was awarded the BCS Lovelace Medal in 2013.
He has played a leading role in the development of game semantics, and its applications to the semantics of programming languages. Other notable contributions include his work on domain theory in logical form, the lazy lambda calculus, strictness analysis, concurrency theory, interaction categories, and geometry of interaction. More recently, he has been working on high-level methods for quantum computation and information.
Selected Publications
Robust Constraint Satisfaction and Local Hidden Variables in Quantum Mechanics
S. Abramsky' G. Gottlob and P. Kolaitis
In Artificial Intelligence (IJCAI '13)' 2013 23rd International Joint Conference on. Pages 440−446. AAAI Press. 2013.
Details about Robust Constraint Satisfaction and Local Hidden Variables in Quantum Mechanics | BibTeX data for Robust Constraint Satisfaction and Local Hidden Variables in Quantum Mechanics | Download (pdf) of Robust Constraint Satisfaction and Local Hidden Variables in Quantum Mechanics
Logical Bell Inequalities
Samson Abramsky and Lucien Hardy
In Physical Review A. Vol. 85. No. ARTN 062114. Pages 1−11. 2012.
Details about Logical Bell Inequalities | BibTeX data for Logical Bell Inequalities | DOI (10.1103/PhysRevA.85.062114) | Link to Logical Bell Inequalities
The Sheaf−Theoretic Structure of Non−Locality and Contextuality
S. Abramsky and A. Brandenburger
In New Journal of Physics. Vol. 13. Pages 113036−113075. 2011.
Details about The Sheaf−Theoretic Structure of Non−Locality and Contextuality | BibTeX data for The Sheaf−Theoretic Structure of Non−Locality and Contextuality | DOI (10.1088/1367-2630/13/11/113036) | Link to The Sheaf−Theoretic Structure of Non−Locality and Contextuality