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State Education Indicators with a Focus on Title I: 2001-02 (2005)
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Report Objectives and Design
State Education Indicators with a Focus on Title I 2001-02 is the seventh in a series of reports designed to provide: 1) consistent, reliable indicators to allow analysis of trends for each state, the District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico over time, 2) high data quality for comparability from state to state, and 3) accessible indicator formats for use by a variety of audiences. The report is based on two-page profiles that present the same indicators for each state.
Title I is the largest single grant program of the U.S. Department of Education, authorized under the Elementary and Secondary Education Act (ESEA). For 40 years, it has provided funds to states, the District of Columbia, and the outlying territories for additional educational support for the neediest children. In 2004, the $14 billion program served more than 15 million students in nearly all school districts and nearly half of all public schools.
The 1994 reauthorization of ESEA required states to monitor the progress of schools in improving the achievement of low-income students through assessments, and also required alignment of student achievement tests with state standards for learning that apply to all students. States reported student achievement results by levels of proficiency for the 2001-02 school year for reading or language arts and mathematics at three grade levels: elementary schoolgrade 3, 4, or 5; middle schoolgrade 6, 7, 8, or 9; and high schoolgrade 10, 11, or 12. Each state determines its state test, how proficiency levels are set and defined, and at which grades students are tested.
The No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 (NCLB), which reauthorized ESEA in 2002, strengthens these requirements by requiring states to develop an integrated accountability system for all students, and added a requirement for testing of all students in grades 3-8 and one grade in the 10-12 grade span, in reading or language arts and mathematics by 2005-06. These data are reported by student group, with the aim of all students in each group attaining the state-defined level of proficiency by 2014. It is important to note that the data presented in this report reflect the year prior to the implementation of NCLB.
Guide to State Indicator Profiles
The state profiles in State Education Indicators with a Focus on Title I contain key measures of the quality of K-12 public education. They focus on the status of each indicator as of the 2001-02 school year, prior to the requirements of NCLB, and many indicators also include data for a baseline year to enable analysis of trends over time. The baseline year of 1993-94 was chosen in order to present data with comparable definitons, many of which changed with the 1994 reauthorization of ESEA. The sources section provides more detailed information and explanations for the indicators. The indicators in each state profile are organized in six categories:
School and Teacher Demographics
The indicators in this category provide a statewide picture of characteristics of the public K-12 school system, including schools, teachers and finances. The number of public schools and FTE (full-time equivalent) teachers are presented for 2001-02 and 1993-94, and percentage of grade 7-12 teachers with a major in the main subject taught is presented for 2000 and 1994, permitting comparisons across time. These data are from the Common Core of Data, collected from state departments of education by the National Center for Education Statistics (NCES), and the Schools and Staffing Survey, a sample-based survey of teachers and schools, also conducted by NCES.
Student Demographics
An important aspect of the assessment system for Title I, reinforced by NCLB, is the disaggregation of student achievement results by student group. This section of the profile provides a picture of the student enrollment across grades, as well as trends in the student populations in each state, particularly characteristics of students by race or ethnicity, poverty, disability status, English language proficiency, and migrant status. The bar graph accompanying each two-page report that shows counts of public schools by percent of students eligible for the free or reduced-price lunch program (i.e., students from lowincome families, when the data is available from the state) is useful for reviewing the disaggregated student achievement results reported on the second page of each profile.
Statewide Accountability InformationThe information on state accountability systems was compiled from several sources: annual updates collected by the Council of Chief State School Officers (CCSSO) with each state education agency, review of state Internet Web sites, and print reports. The information, collected during the winter of 2002, reflects the status of the state's system for the 2001-02 school year, prior to the large-scale accountability requirements of NCLB. The information provides comparable information on the status of state policies defining accountability systems and their relationship to Title I accountability. In summary:
Statewide Goal for Schools on Student Assessment: 42 states had established a goal, such as percentage of students in a school that will attain the state-defined proficient level on state student assessments in specific subjects, as of the 2001-02 school year.
Expected School Improvement on Assessment: 36 states had set a target for amount of improvement in student achievement scores for the school by a certain time period (e.g., annually), by the 2001-02 school year.
Title I AYP Target for Schools: 50 states and the District of Columbia had measures of Adequate Yearly Progress (AYP) for the 2001-02 school year, as required under Title I and later reinforced by NCLB. Schools that do not meet their AYP targets for two years are identified for improvement actions by the state. Eighteen states and the District of Columbia had an AYP target for Title I schools based on the statewide accountability system, and the report lists "same" for this indicator. If the target for Title I schools is different from non-Title I schools, the Title I target is described. (AYP measures for Title I schools were required under the 1994 ESEA reauthorization. The requirements of the 2001 reauthorization of ESEA, known as NCLB, which requires measures for all schools, are not captured in this report.)
Title I Schools
The report includes several specific indicators for the Title I programs. These include the number of Title I schools, which may be either "targeted assistance" programs for low-income children that channel funds for services provided directly to the neediest students or "schoolwide programs" for schools with high rates of low-income children that use Title I funds to support the learning of all students in the school. (Based on the 1994 ESEA legislation, schools with 50 percent or greater of the student population from low-income families are eligible to operate schoolwide programs; beginning with the 2002-03 school year, under NCLB, schools with greater than 40 percent poverty may do so.) Also reported are the number and percentage of each type of Title I schools meeting AYP goals and the number and percentage of each type of Title I schools identified for school improvement, which means the school missed the AYP goals for two or more years in a row. In addition, the report includes the Title I funding allocation per state.
National Assessment of Educational Progress
State-level results on the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP), which are comparable state by state, are reported in the lower right corner of the lefthand page of each state's profile. NAEP proficiency definitions are available in Appendix B.
Student Achievement
The name of the state assessment and the state definitions of proficient are included at the top of the right page of each state profile. State assessment aggregate scores were obtained from the State Consolidated Performance Report (Section B) submitted by states annually to the U.S. Department of Education. States reported student achievement results for the 2001-02 school year for reading or language arts and mathematics at three grade levels, as specified by Title I requirements prior to the program's reauthorization in the No Child Left Behind Act: elementary schoolgrade 3, 4, or 5; middle schoolgrade 6, 7, 8, or 9; and high school. grade 10, 11, or 12. Each state determines its state test, how proficiency levels are set and defined, and the grades at which students are tested. (Note: such practice has changed since the passage of NCLB, which requires states, by the 2005-06 school year, to assess all students in grades 3-8 and one grade in the 10-12 grade span in reading or language arts and mathematics.)
The state profiles in this report also provide disaggregated assessment results, when available, for schools with Title I programs, economically disadvantaged students, students with limited English proficiency, students with disabilities, and migratory students. The availability of results by other student groups is listed in the Availability of Student Achievement Results by Disaggregated Category table on pages 4-5. NCLB requires states to provide data disaggregated by these categories for accountability purposes, as well as by race or ethnicity and gender, beginning with the 2002-03 school year.
It is important to note that student achievement scores on the state assessments are not directly comparable state to state. Within a state, student results, e.g., percent meeting the state's "proficient" level, can be reasonably compared with the same state's performance in the prior year as long as the same test, standards, proficiency levels, and definitions of proficiency are in place. As such, the "student achievement trend" at the bottom of the second page of each profile shows a histogram with the percent of students that meet or exceed the state definition of "proficient." Histograms are displayed for six states with 1996-97 as their baseline year for analysis, and eight states with 1997-98 as their baseline year. Table 3 on page 6 provides a summary of student performance for all states for 2001-02, and Table 4 on pages 8-9 summarizes student achievement trends for elementary reading or language arts and middle grades mathematics from 1995-96 through 2001-02 for states with consistant tests, standards, proficiency levels, and definitions of proficiency.
In the bottom right corner of the second page of each profile are reported two measures of student outcomes from secondary schools: the high school dropout rate (based on annual percent of grade 9-12 students leaving school or "event" rate as reported by states to the U.S. Department of Education in the Common Core of Data) and the postsecondary enrollment rate (percent of high school graduates enrolled in any postsecondary education institution in the fall of the following school year, as reported by the National Center for Education Statistics).
Progress of State Standards and Assessments
This report tracks the progress of state Title I programs, and particularly the development and use of state standards and assessments in state accountability. A goal of the annual report is to chart the progress of states in developing state accountability systems based on state content standards and aligned state assessment programs.
The 1994 reauthorization of ESEA, which guided state accountability and reporting systems in the 2001-02 school year prior to the requirements of NCLB, required states to monitor the progress of schools in improving the achievement of low-income students and also required alignment of student achievement tests with state standards for learning that apply to all students. The individual state profiles and trends in assessment results in the State Education Indicators report are useful for initial determinations of educational improvements that may be related to Title I programs. The matrix in Table 1 on pages 2-3 displays key indicators of state progress in developing accountability systems for Title I.
Content Standards
As of spring 2002, 49 states plus the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico had adopted and implemented statewide content standards meeting Title I requirements for K-12 education in the core academic subjects of English or language arts and mathematics, and 46 states and the District of Columbia had adopted and implemented statewide standards for science and social studies or history. NCLB requires that all states have content standards in mathematics and English or language arts by the 2002-03 school year. States are also required to develop science content standards by the 2005-06 school year.
State Assessment Results reported by Proficiency Levels
For the 2001-02 school year, 48 states plus the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico reported state assessment results using three or more proficiency levels that were defined by the state. Under NCLB, beginning with the 2002-03 school year, all states must report assessment results by at least three proficiency levels defined by the state. The matrix in Table 1 on pages 2-3 identifies the name of each assessment instrument and the number of proficiency levels reported for 2001-02.
State Achievement Results Disaggregated
A key feature of the 1994 reauthorization of ESEA was a provision that assessment results be disaggregated by categories of students, a requirement NCLB built upon to hold schools and districts accountable for the achievement of subgroups of students. The purpose of disaggregated results and reporting is to increase the possibility that educators, policymakers, and parents will analyze and improve the progress of learning through focusing on the students that are most in need of assistance. Under NCLB requirements, states were required by 2002-03 to disaggregate and report state assessment results by school and by students with families in poverty, student race or ethnicity, gender, and student status as disabled, limited English proficient, and migratory. For the 2001-02 school year, 47 states plus the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico reported assessment results using one or more disaggregated categories. Table 2 on pages 4-5 summarizes the availability of this disaggregated student assessment data.
Assessment Trends Analysis
As of 2001-02, 32 states had reported at least two years of assessment results using consistent assessments, levels, and grades, and 26 states reported three or more years of results that could be analyzed as trends. Table 4 on pages 8-9 provides a sample of student achievement trends for the period from 1996 to 2002.
Uses of State Indicators
This report comes at an important time for states, schools, and students. Standards and assessments are at the center of education reform in the states and are a central focus of the No Child Left Behind Act. Schools are using Title I funds to develop new approaches to education for low-income and at-risk students. An important goal of these efforts is to close the gap in educational opportunity and student learning between poor and wealthier students. For anyone tracking information about student achievement in the states, State Education Indicators with a Focus on Title I is a useful tool.


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I agree that Nick's prediction is true for the population of Stata users and would-be users whose next best alternative would be another bona fide statistical package like, perhaps, R or SAS.
But for the population of users and would-be users whose next best alternative would be a basic spreadsheet/graphing program like Excel, where you can designate percentage formats in graphs and tables with the click of a button, this convenience and others (like reliably copying and pasting tables to a Word document) would greatly outweigh the marginal benefit of another arcane estimation method.
The former group is apparently the perceived market for Stata and probably the large majority of current users. But the latter group is orders of magnitude larger.
Attracting even a tiny fraction of Excel users would no doubt increase Stata's user base significantly. I am not advocating that Stata should try to compete head-to-head with Excel (heaven forbid!). But a few conveniences that benefit a large number of users and particularly prospective users seems like a better investment than adding highly specialized statistical estimators destined to be used only by a limited and highly sophisticated set of users.
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I say "remember" because I know this in non-dance areas of my life. Somehow, because I was an adult dance student I felt inadequate in the beginning (several years ago) in a dance world where one's social position is determined by one's skill, not by who one is in other areas of one's life. I forgot that I had learned a lot in other areas in my life and could apply it in dance as well.
Later, I realised my mistake. I found that I had been expecting more from my teacher than he was able to give me. Teachers each have different strengths, weaknesses, preferences and values. In my continuing role as student, I feel that it is my responsibilty to realise something of what my teacher is best at and hire them to do the things that will help me the most. But, I have to say, I didn't know this in the beginning. And now that I am teaching sometimes, I have more perspective on being a student. I know that my style and process is a certain way and not all students will like or benefit from learning that way. Sometimes I encourage them to find another teacher who will be more compatible with their needs.
Having known many teachers, I would not say their ability to train you is based upon whether or not they currently compete or have a lot of students who currently compete. I think it has more to do with their style of teaching. Of course there may be political considerations in the competition where studying with a particular teacher gives one an advantage in the ratings. But that is another subject that I am not qualified to tell you the impact of.
What I had to do for myself was to figure out what I needed and expected. Then I had to look for someone who could teach me in the way that I needed to be taught. The process is important to me and so I looked for a teacher who had a process that worked for me.
Also, I have studied from more than one teacher, because sometimes different one's have different things I need. I have never found one person who had it all. However, it doesn't hurt to do this sequentially, rather than consecutively. Too much at once may not be a good idea either. It depends upon how you learn.
If you like to supplement your study with video instruction, you may want to check out http://www.dancevision.com. I have found studying videos to be very helpful. It is not a substitute for private instruction, but it has it's own benefits. It allows one to replay a step over and over and study it intensely. I made charts off of the videos that detailed things like foot position, weight, hand position, lead, timing, etc. This helped me understand the dance much better. Sometimes, my teachers did not approach the dance this way and could not tell me all the things I wanted to know within the scope of a lesson. At $55 plus dollars and hour, I like to be focused on what I need the teacher for most.
Great post. I'm always interested to hear what students have to say about teachers, especially their likes and dislikes. Every little bit of information helps me to become a better teacher myself.
Something I'd like to clarify and discuss further:
>> Having known many teachers, I would not>> say their ability to train you is based >> upon whether or not they currently >> compete or have a lot of students who >> currently compete.
I agree that there are some damn good dancers/competitors out there who are awful teachers. This combination is possible because the skills involved in dancing and teaching are mostly unrelated, and often someone who has natural ability and requires little effort to learn themselves has very little understanding of the learning process. What's worse, these teachers often just assume that they are good teachers based on their dancing ability, and so they never make any effort to improve their teaching skills.
No, competition is definitely not the be-all-end-all of dance ability. BUT it does almost invariably improve one's own dancing. So while you can't judge a teacher solely based on their status as a competitor, I think that you can bet that a competitive teacher is better than they would be, were they not competing. Because competition is such a great motivator, it forces us to study and improve our craft in a way that we never otherwise would.
The longer I compete, the more I study. The more I study, the more I know and understand, and the more I can share with my students. The trickle-down theory definitely applies to dance knowledge. Often times something I learn when working on my Double Reverse Overspin to Telemark, Big Top and Contra Check gets translated right down to the basic Box step, which helps me teach my next baby Bronze student.
I've always taken pride in my ability as a teacher, much more than my ability as a dancer. And while I was a good teacher long before I ever started competing, I was not nearly as good as I am now. I owe a good chunk of that to my experience as a competitor.
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Very calm garden-side bedroom for 2 people max in a cosy house with garden
Breakfast included
Eat-in kitchen available anytime
Free parking in front of the house
Peaceful and safe residential district
Right place to stay for a visit to VERSAILLES castle and park and to go to PARIS, to take advantage of the calm suburbs and the garden after your visits
Bedroom : for 2 people max, very quiet, tiny and cosy of 13 sq/m, en suite shower and sink, equipped with a new and very confortable bed settee (thickness of mattress 14 cm), on the garden, at 1st floor of a 3 storey-house (access by esy stairs).
Access to the house : Guests have their own entrance (different from the main door)
Upon your arrival, the owner will give you the keys of the house to come and go as you wish.
PROVIDED : Fresh linen and towels -/- hair dryer
WIFI connexion -/- English spoken -/- NO SMOKING -/- smoke alarm
* 2' walk to buses, shopping and restaurants, public swimming pool.
* 15' walk to VERSAILLES palace and park, woods and big mall of Parly 2
* 15'/25' train to PARIS from 3 different stations in Versailles
Kitchen :
Fully equipped and eat in kitchen at your disposal any time
BREAKFAST : included and self serve
It is prepared the day before so that you can have it when you want. Dirty dishes can be put to the dishwasher ; if not I will take care of them.
MEALS : if you are cooking, plates, cutlery and glasses can be put to the dishwasher ; the rest should be washed, dried up and put back to place
FRIDGE : space for you is available in the fridge located either in the kitchen either in the basement. Some drinks are at your disposal
HusreglerMain rules inside :
- NO SHOES INSIDE THE HOUSE ; upon arrival, you will be asked to leave them n the basement ; slippers are at your disposal
- NOT TO STORE FOOD AND DRINKS AND NOT TO HAVE DRINKS (Wine-coffee-soda) and MEAL IN THE BEDROOM . please use the kitchen area which is at free disposal
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|40 NOK pr. gjest/natt ekstra
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|6 nights
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Dear Michèle,
Thank you so much. It was perfect. Again many thanks for your hospitality and the great breakfast.
Best wishes
Michèle was a great host!! She was kind, friendly and very helpful to me about public transportation and other useful stuff around Le Chesnay and Versailles.
The house is quiet and cozy, perfectly equipped! Fantastic homemade breakfast.
I hope to come back very very soon!
A very nice and quiet place in Versailles. Walking distance to the Versailles Palace. The room with view to the garden is very clean and the convertible sofa bed is a real good bed, I slept very well in it. Breakfast in the kitchen makes you feel at home and not in a hotel, you even have a shelf in the fridge for your own stuff. Michèle is a very friendly host and made us feel very comfortable.
A hint to other visitors, to go to Paris, take the train from Versailles Rive Droite it is closest to the place. A tip for visitors of the palace, the parking in the streets is free on sundays.
The room was as described, Michele was very kind, the apartment is small but the room is spacious. Thank you Michele
We enjoyed our stay with Michèle. She always got back promptly with any queries and was always helpful. It was a little strange having the shower in the same room but it worked well, and the bed was very comfortable! Happy to recommend. Thank you, Michèle.
Michèle is a very kind person, good contact via email before as well. The room is small, but fine. The bed is very comfortable, bathroom/shower utterly clean and sufficient. Also good breakfast.
Michèle's room offer is quite recommendable.
Very quiet and convenient place. Nice and well-maintened house. Michèle is a very pleasant and helpfull person.
Een heerlijk rustige accommodatie. Fijn dat de auto voor de deur kon staan. Het is erg schoon en de bedbank slaapt heerlijk. Een goed matras. Er was zelfs ruimte in de koelkast voor ons gemaakt. Michèle is erg vriendelijk en je kunt haar alles vragen. In de ochtend staat het ontbijt al klaar in de keuken die we op ons eigen tijdstip konden nuttigen. Prima aanbevolen!!
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Jul 6, 2009 at 9:54 pm #1237568
Alright so I just purchased one of these over the weekend because it went for $307 with shipping and everything. I am anxious to get it. Does anyone know if there is videos of it anywhere. Id like to see how the material looks. I am afraid that it might not be that durable. Thanks.Jul 9, 2009 at 12:38 pm #1512956
Where did you get one for $307 inc. shipping? eBay?
I got mine for $355 inc. shipping on eBay about 2 mths ago.
I dunno about videos…but I have a CR2 and the material durability doesn't worry me. The floor seems quite durable. The fly is thinner, but it also isn't subjected to nearly the same stress. All the spots were stuff conncts to the fly are nicely reinforced.
I'm not sure what other ultralight tents are like, but the CR2 floor feels like a normal tent floor. Unlike most UL tents which use SilNylon, the CR2's floor is made from: 40 Denier x 238 T ripstop nylon 6 10000mm polyurethane coated & DWR.
It's the same floor material that MSR uses for their other heavier Hubba Hubba tents.I suspect the CR2 floor is one of the more durable ones for an UL tent. I think most of the weight savings with the CR2 are in the design (that requires few poles), the carbon fibre poles and the fly material. For UL hiking trips I'm not going to be using a footprint, but I might pick one up just to minimize wear when I'm car camping etc.
The tent has a very high quality feel to it. You're going to love it. The tent is very satisfying to pitch because it all sets up so darn nice. Use the tension adjusters at the 4 corners once it's all set up to get the tension perfect. Also, make sure you run the cross pole OVER the main pole rather than under.Jul 9, 2009 at 1:18 pm #1512978
Yea basically Backcountry Edge was hosting a members only sale (membership is free) over the 4th of July weekend. It was selling for $349.95 with free shipping. Howwwwwwever, first time buyers get an additional 12% their first purchase. So that knocked it down to $307.96. Plus on top of that if you review the tent after it arrives, you'll get an additional $15.36 off of any purchase you make in the future. Basically for every review you give, you get 5% of the value of the item credited to your account. I hope I do not come off as bragging, but since you asked, I figured I tell you about how I used all of these things to convince my girlfriend that this was a sale that we could not pass up on. Luckily it worked! I mean crap the darn thing costs $499.99 at retail stores. Then you figure in tax and that will bump it up to nearly $550, at least with the taxes in Chicago. So knowing that I was going to get 45% off, how could I resist.
Well with all said, I certainly hope this tent works out for us. I love the fact that it weights 3lbs 2ozs fully loaded. It just arrived today at my girlfriends place, so tomorrow were going to try setting it up. As far as the footprint is concerned, I dont know why, but I feel this need to get one. I surly will not pay the $40-50 asking price and will definitely find it for under $30 somewhere. That it not the issue though, its extra weight. I hate that. However, I do want the tent to last a long time since it is after all a pretty expensive investment.
On a totally different note, what is your opinion on the carbon poles? Are they going to last, or are they destined to snap under tension? I read a review on the Backpacker Magazine site and when they tested it out, one of the poles exhibited a stress fracture. It never ended up breaking, but it did not look like it appreciated the tension from what the reviewer described. Please fill me in with your thoughts. Thank you!Jul 9, 2009 at 5:07 pm #1513014
I've set the tent up maybe 6-8 times. The main arch pole seems to bend into an arch easy enough. I was worried I would have to pull worrisomely hard on it, but it bends easier than I figured carbon fibre would. I think as long as you make sure the pole sections are fully inserted and you don't step on them (that's probably the biggest risk) they will hold up for the life of the tent. Perhaps they get stiffer, harder to bend and more prone to cracking though in cold weather? I dunno…
The short cross pole is kinda hard to bend because it's so short. The first time I set the tent up I was nervous about how hard I had to pull it. However, it seems to work better if you have the cross pole ABOVE the main pole instead of BELOW it. I believe the instructions on MSRs site contradict the instructions that come with the tent in this regard, so I put it over the main pole as that seems to work better.
I think the fabric may have stretched out a bit after some use, because it's not really hard to stretch the tent bodies grommets onto the cross pole anymore. Accordingly, I don't have to pull as hard on the pole so I'm not too worried about it breaking.
Basically, I think the poles will hold up under normal use but they are probably a bit more prone to breakage than aluminum poles if they are stepped on, recieve a sharp impact and maybe in extreme cold.
Keep in mind that the tent has a lifetime warranty and supposedly MSR is quite good with replacing these poles if they break. So just keep your reciept!Jul 10, 2009 at 8:10 pm #1513231
Alright Dave I set up the tent today and I am going to ask you some questions as they pop in my head and state things I like about the tent and somethings I am unsure of.
I love the steaks; nice sturdy metal that is not easily bendable like a lot of stakes that I have dealt with. I obviously like the fact that the tent it super light! The floor is thicker that I thought it would be. The poles seem to be more durable than I thought they would be.
Speaking of poles, two things. Darn you weren't kidding, the short pole is super stiff. Second, because it is so stiff, I placed in underneath the main long one that arches. You said you placed it above though. Weren't you worried about having to bend the little guy upward to hard. When I tried and actually ended up doing it, the thing wanted to slide down the big one when placed on top of it. I may be wrong about this, but it seems like it would be proper to place the pole below the big one. Then again I find it weird to have the small pole just laying straight across the tent doing nothing. Your more knowledgeable then me on matters most likely, so Im curious to hear more of you logic on matters even though you kind of already touched upon this matter.
Ok here is where my major questions come in. I took 10 pictures of my tent with the fly on it. Underneath each of them I wrote questions. Most of them are with regards to what a certain loop is used for. However, I had a hard time accepting where I thought MSR suggested to place the stakes at the front entrance of the fly. If I have things staked out correctly, then I admitt the the front of the fly looks nice and tight. There is a problem though. How in the heck are you suppose to move in and out of the tent through the thin sliver that is provided after you put the fly on. The door is fine when the fly is off, but once you put that fly on and stake it out, you dont get much to work with. I think I may be doing something wrong, but fill me in and let me know what you think. Another thing, any idea how I might pull out the storage area of the fly tighter so its not sagging the way it is in the pictures?
Oh! And what other things am I suppose to guy down with the string that is provided. I am new to tents that have points that you can guy out with string, so please excuse my stupidity on matters. On a side note, i dont even know how to use those guy clips either. The manual gives a diagram of how to work the string through them, but do you know of any sites that are more descriptive with how to play around with them so that they are set up correctly.
Finally, and not that this is a big deal, what is up with the silky roof center? Do you think that it will absorb moisture and drip water above the top inside part of the tent? This question is probably a little overbaord, but I figured Id ask.
I am sure there is more that I intended to ask you, but the mosquitos were chopping the heck out of us in my front yard so I might be forgetting some. If I remember any of them, you can be sure that I will post them. In the mean time here are the pictures. I have numbered the links so that when you go on to make your comments you can refer to the picutres by number. Thanks a lot Dan. If you can even help me with half these questions I will be in complete debt to you!
1) http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d76/Razortceps/MSR9.jpg
2) http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d76/Razortceps/MSR8.jpg
3) http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d76/Razortceps/MSR6.jpg
4) http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d76/Razortceps/MSR5.jpg
5) http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d76/Razortceps/MSR3.jpg
6) http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d76/Razortceps/MSR2.jpg
7) http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d76/Razortceps/MSR11.jpg
8) http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d76/Razortceps/MSR10.jpg
9) http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d76/Razortceps/MSR1.jpg
10) http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d76/Razortceps/MSR7.jpgJul 11, 2009 at 11:59 am #1513274
"Speaking of poles, two things. Darn you weren't kidding, the short pole is super stiff. Second, because it is so stiff, I placed in underneath the main long one that arches. You said you placed it above though. Weren't you worried about having to bend the little guy upward to hard."
When I put it under, I found it was bent/arched upwards and hitting the underside of the main pole. By having it above, it is free to arch up. However, I only tried putting it under once (and the directions on MSRs site say to go under) so perhaps I need to try this again. You may be right that it's better to go under.
Regarding tie out loop in photo #1, I haven't actually used this, but I imagine it would make the tent more sturdy in a heavy wind or under heavy snow load. I was wondering this too and that's the best answer I could think of.
Regarding the loop in picture #3, I believe this is for improving ventilation. If you tie/stake this out, you get more airflow coming under the fly. It actually seems to work pretty good. I used the included rope to stake this out on my most recent trip.
Regarding photo #5, it looks like both vestibules could be pulled out tighter, but especially the door side. This would make it easier to get in/out.
Regarding photo #6….ha ha…yes you are doing something wrong here. Don't stake out both sides of the door. Just stake out one, and then the other side will open up as the door. Choose which 'door' you want to be able to open and then stake the other one. When you unzip the door, you can then roll it up using the thing provided.
Here's a pic from MSR's site:
Photos #7 & #10 are showing another spots you can tie the tent down for windy/snowy conditions
"what other things am I suppose to guy down with the string that is provided."
I use the supplied string for the ventition guy out loops at the bottom ends of the tent, but it severe conditions I'd attach them higher up as support.
"I am new to tents that have points that you can guy out with string, so please excuse my stupidity on matters. On a side note, i dont even know how to use those guy clips either. The manual gives a diagram of how to work the string through them, but do you know of any sites that are more descriptive with how to play around with them so that they are set up correctly."
Just fiddle around with them….they grab the string pretty good almost regardless of how you route them. I don't really know the proper way either.
"what is up with the silky roof center? Do you think that it will absorb moisture and drip water above the top inside part of the tent? This question is probably a little overbaord, but I figured Id ask."
I'm not sure. This fabric won't be absorbing moisture/condensation normally because there is no temperature difference between the two sides like there is with the fly (cold outside, warm inside). My guess is that the condensation that does collection inside the fly can fall on this fabric and be absorbed rather than splashing on you, like it would when a drip hits mesh.Jul 11, 2009 at 12:40 pm #1513278
The cross pole is supposed to be above the arch ple not below it. It will be a tight fit but doing so maximized structural stability.Jul 11, 2009 at 3:47 pm #1513299
Are you affiliated with MSR? Or have you just used this tent? If you're affiliated, perhaps mention the contradiction about where this cross pole goes between what's posted on MSRgear.com and the directions that are included with the tent.
Can you confirm that this loop (link below) is for adding additional guylines in severe weather? I can't think of any other use.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d76/Razortceps/MSR1.jpgJul 11, 2009 at 10:10 pm #1513341
Your answers were very elightening. Thank you very much. Especially the explaination on the door. I found it unbelieveable if they actually expected me to crawl through that little crack. So if I stake one door down and leave the other one loose, what if it starts to rain. When I zip the fly down, wont the one thats not staked be flapping around or am I mistaken.
As far as the short pole is concern, when I put it over the long pole, it did not seem to want to bend into a U-Shape like I would think it would. It kinda of just slops over it in a very straight manner. I dont know if this is because this is some kind of defect with my grommet holes being to far apart or if the pole is just too darn stiff. What are your thoughts?
"Are you affiliated with MSR."
No. I wish I was, pffft then Id have all these questions answered. I think I might give them a call soon just to confirm our thoughts on matters. In fact, I am making a decision right now. First thing Monday morning I will give them a call for us. Is there any questions you would like me to address which I havent already brought up? Get back to me and let me know. Thanks!Jul 11, 2009 at 10:16 pm #1513343
Judging by these pictures it appears as though you both we correct. I figured to were right, but that pole is so stiff that it made me wonder.Jul 11, 2009 at 10:17 pm #1513344
Im going to get a footprint, know of any places to get it cheap? Thanks!
P.S. How do you post pictures like you did with the tent one.Jul 11, 2009 at 10:18 pm #1513345
My good friend has one and used it on the West Coast Trail in early May. He put the cross pole over the arch pole but now after seeing pictures on the Net I see it done both ways. Strange. Carbon fibre won't bend like aluminum so obviously MSR needs to be more clear. I would like to hear the results on this one.
The additonal pullout is for a guyline should the need arise. This I am sure of ;)Jul 11, 2009 at 10:26 pm #1513346
Do you actually think it will ever be necessary David or do you think they just put it there so you have peace of mind knowing that it is there? :)Jul 12, 2009 at 4:41 am #1513366
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Just use 2 mil plastic or look at what Gossamer Gear sells. You have a 3 lb tent, why add more with the brand footprint? To save more weight, you really don't need a footprint. I have a Hubba and it's held up well without one. If I choose to do so, I cut out an area the size of my pad out of plastic.Jul 12, 2009 at 7:54 am #1513379
Timothy – it is a 'just in case you need it' attachment. You can take additional guyline (it should come with some in the tent peg bag) on every trip which will weigh no more than 1/2 and ounce. Most other shelters have these loops but they are in no way needed for effective set-up or reasonably windy condition.Jul 12, 2009 at 4:55 pm #1513459
"So if I stake one door down and leave the other one loose, what if it starts to rain. When I zip the fly down, wont the one thats not staked be flapping around or am I mistaken."
No it will be tight. Just give it a shot. When you put in the single stake, have the door zipped closed. Then put the stake in so everything is taut.
"As far as the short pole is concern, when I put it over the long pole, it did not seem to want to bend into a U-Shape like I would think it would. It kinda of just slops over it in a very straight manner. I dont know if this is because this is some kind of defect with my grommet holes being to far apart or if the pole is just too darn stiff. What are your thoughts?"
I think it's normal. It will probably get easier to do after the tent has been used a few times. Mine was hard at first and now it's not too bad.
"No. I wish I was [affiliated with MSR], pffft then Id have all these questions answered."
Ha Ha….I was asking David this.
"How do you post pictures like you did with the tent one"
Click the 'insert image at cursor' button when you are writing a post.Jul 12, 2009 at 5:02 pm #1513463
I spoke to my buddy about the cross pole. He has always put it above the long pole as opposed to under. However, he also added a bit of duct tape to the middle of the short pole where it crosses / touches the arch pole. Although he has not had any issue with durability, he had concern that the two poles would be touching.Jul 12, 2009 at 7:29 pm #1513486
Ok sounds good Dan. Like I said Ill give them a call, but I think David has basically cleared everything up for us =) Thanks David and thank you too Dan with the door and stake advice.
Hey David is there any specific reason why he doesnt want the poles touching, because I know if I put my short one above the long one it is definitely going to touch. The only problem that I experienced with this matter is that the short pole had the tendency to want to slide down the long one which can quite annoying if you ask me.Jul 12, 2009 at 8:05 pm #1513491
The regular Hubba models of which the Carbon Reflex is based have the plastic hub which prevents the two poles from touching.
Honestly, I think he is just being precautionary….or anal ; )Jul 13, 2009 at 11:48 am #1513603
It's probably fine to have the poles touching, but I don't know how carbon fibre handles this in the long term. If it's a windy night and the poles rub on each other all night, then perhaps this will significantly weaken them? It's probably nothing, but it would be good to avoid if possible.Jul 14, 2009 at 2:22 pm #1513844
They said the the three loops that run along the poles (the two that are at are a quarter of the way up on fly running along the main pole and the one that is in the back arching pole near the storage area) are used to adjust the alignment of the fly over them. In other words, center the seams with the poles by giving them a light tug. The ones on the bottom of the middle main pole areas are as you said, to provide more ventalation. And finally, you guys were correct, the little pole is suppose to be on top. It ended up not slipping around once I attached all the clips to the main pole.
Of course after getting of the phone with them a new problem arises for me. Let me post some pictures to start off with.
To begin with, how does my fly look in the first two pictures? Is it staked out tight enough? I am wondering if I steaked it out too tight because of the creases that you can see in various spots.
Alright now take a look at pictures 3 and 4, and take notice of how the fabric in the corners is loose compared to the pictures in 5 and 6. As it turns out, the pictures in 5 and 6 were taken when the fly was off. You can see that it is staked out pretty nicely, unless I am mistaken. However, when I put the fly on and tighten it with the straps, it loosens up like how you see it in picture 3 and 4. What is up with that? How can I fix that or is that normal?Jul 15, 2009 at 2:55 pm #1514113
Regarding the loose corners of your tent, what is happening is that when you attach the fly it pulls the corners of the tent up which loosens the body. Without the fly, the stakes are pulling the tent corners straight out. When you attach the fly and pull it tight, this is now pulling upwards on the guylines between the tent and the stake. This lifts the corners and makes them looser. Do you follow?
There are a few approaches you can take to mitigate this:
1) Don't pull the fly as tight. You want the fly generally taut, but there's no need to stretch it so tight you can play a tune on it. Have you noticed the easy tension adjustments on the stake-out lines and on the fly straps? Get your fly acceptably taut, and then tighten up the guylines again to pull the tent body tighter. Tightening the fly less is probably the best approach to minimizing this problem. The tension adjusters on the fly and tent body guylines are really cool and easy to use, but that makes it easy to tighten things more than necessary. I would get the tent body guy lines quite taut, but then tighten the fly ones only as much as needed. When you setup the tent start with all of these cords somewhat slack, and then once you've got the tent setup you can fine tune the tension.
2) Grab 2 extra stakes (plus the 2 extra ones included that you normally don't need) so you have 4 surplus stakes. Now stake down the tent body RIGHT at the corners of the tent (and fully sink the stakes into the ground). This ensures that the tent corners stay on the ground and don't lift upwards and loosen when the fly is attached. The downsides to this approach is that you are carrying a few extra stakes, plus it's a bit harder to stake out the tent because you no longer can use the tension adjustment. If one corner is loose you need to actually pull the stake out and reposition it. This can be a pain in poor soil where it's hard to get a stake in.Jul 15, 2009 at 3:05 pm #1514118
I took my CR2 out camping last night. I experimented with putting the cross pole over and under the main pole. It seemed quite clear to me that it worked better OVER the main pole.
With the cross pole routed under, the pole really didn't bend at all so it pulled the fabric extremely tight. When you put it the cross pole over the main pole that initiates a curve, so the cross pole has a safer amount of tension on the tent body. You might have to actually observe this for yourself for it to make sense because it's hard to explain.
Here's a 2nd piece of evidence that the cross pole goes over:
Recall the velcro flaps/loops that secure the fly to the tent poles. There are three of these. The outer two are obviously meant to grab the main pole as the velcro flaps are parallel to the main pole. However, the center one is perpendicular so you can not attach it to the main pole unless you really twist it. It's clearly meant to attach to a pole running perpendicular to the main pole….which is the cross pole. In order to velco the fly to the cross pole, you need to have the cross pole above the main pole. So really, the only way everything works is if you have the cross pole above the main pole. This settled all doubt in my mind.Jul 15, 2009 at 9:25 pm #1514203
Guy-out lines and stake-out lines; they are the same thing, correct?
"Grab 2 extra stakes (plus the 2 extra ones included that you normally don't need) so you have 4 surplus stakes."
Im going to use the other method like you said, but you made me wonder about something. Did you get 8 stakes with your tent? I only got 7 with mine. 4 for the corners, 1 for the storage part of the fly, 1 for the front fly door, and 1 extra one ("extra" after I realized that I was a moron for staking both of my fly doors down.) I will have to get in contact with MSR if I did not get the correct amount of stakes.
"In order to velco the fly to the cross pole, you need to have the cross pole above the main pole. So really, the only way everything works is if you have the cross pole above the main pole. This settled all doubt in my mind."
I am on the same page Dan. It makes perfect sense! Excellent logic on your part. Speaking of twisting, do you have to push away the loop on the tent near the arching pole when you put the the pole through the grommet of the fly?
Do you ever use your tent for two people? I am having a debate on whether or not it suits my needs. I cannot decide if I am forcing myself to think that it will or if it is actually possible. When my girlfriend and I get into it we are extremely close together. However, that is not to say that we are overlapping each other by any means. We are basically shoulder to shoulder though, luckily enough this is because we are small. I am 5'7 and she is 5'4. We fit pretty well if she sleeps one way and I sleep the other way, but of cpurse that isnt exactly the way we want to sleep at night. Long story short, I do not mind the available space. The only thing I am concerned about is putting to much tension on the outside length of the tent. The part where our outside shoulders will be resting. It is not like we are hammocking our bodies over the sides of the tent, but our weight does cause the side of tent body that has risen due to the tension of the steaks to collapse downwards. I could ease up on the tension of the stakes so there is a little more give if necessary, but I am not sure if this would be a smart thing to do. What are your thoughts? I really love this tent!Jul 15, 2009 at 10:56 pm #1514216
"Guy-out lines and stake-out lines; they are the same thing, correct?"
Yes, at least when I use those terms they are.
"Did you get 8 stakes with your tent?"
Yes, I believe MSRs intentions are:
– 4 for corners
– 1 for vestibule
– 1 for door
– 2 for either ventilation loops, extra guy outs
I think MSR sells these stakes seperately but I'm not sure.
"Speaking of twisting, do you have to push away the loop on the tent near the arching pole when you put the the pole through the grommet of the fly?"
Yes, this is slightly annoying but pretty minor really.
"Do you ever use your tent for two people?"
Yes, I've been on three 1 night trips with this tent and 2 of them were with my wife. I am 6'0" and 165lbs and she is about 5'6 and 125lbs. I haven't mentioned the slightly small size of the tent and she hasn't brought it up or complained at all. I actually find it a really nice size for two. We both sleep with our heads at the same end. It's small enough that things are cozy without being cramped. I like it.
Regarding strain on the tent….I haven't noticed mine pulling too hard. Maybe it just takes a few nights to stretch the fabric a bit? Loosening up the tension isn't a bad idea. The only thing you need to be careful of (that I can think of) is that you don't want the fly hitting the tent body if it's raining (since that contact can cause leakage) and you also don't want the noise and wear of the tent flapping in the wind if it's really loose and quite windy.
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As we move into the campaign season and read all the letters by supporters of various candidates, we might wonder if we live in the same community or region described by such supporters. It seems every candidate and their supporters are very sure that they know exactly what we want and how to get it done.
As I read such campaign mailings, letters and quotes in articles, I am quite sure I am in the wrong place. I do not recognize the districts, communities and regions they're describing. I do not share the issues that are such great concerns. I don't even recognize the names of candidates and their supporters.
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WESTMINSTER, Colo. – 3xLOGIC Inc., a provider of advanced video surveillance and video-supported business intelligence, announces that its complete line of VIGIL Video Management System (VMS), Business Intelligence (BI) software, and purpose-built video appliances are now available to members of PSA Security Network.
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Ever since she was young, Flora Belle Buckman has claimed to be a "natural-born cynic." She can't imagine herself with any other personality. However, one day, Flora rescues a squirrel that has been sucked into a neighbor's vacuum cleaner. And after examining the squirrel, Flora realizes that it has superpowers!
For the first time since her parents divorce, Flora can't help but feel excited. Flora decides to keep the squirrel and names him Ulysses. And while on different adventures around town with Ulysses, Flora learns not only about the squirrel's amazing talents—like typing and flying—but also about the prospect of hope. Flora and Ulysses: The Illuminated Adventures author Kate DiCamillo recently spoke with TFK about the new book.
What gave you the idea for such a unique story plot?
Unique is a kind word. It's a strange story plot. My mother had a vacuum cleaner that she loved, and before she passed away, she kept on insisting that I take it. After she passed away, I took the vacuum cleaner, and it was in my garage. Every time I pulled into the garage, I could see the vacuum cleaner sitting there and it made me sad. Also, there was a squirrel who decided to die on my front steps. So I've got the dying squirrel and I've got the vacuum cleaner, I'm missing my mother, and I want to laugh. And that's how it all started.
Which character in your novel do you most closely identify with?
The funny thing is that one of my very best friends said, "Flora is you." And I said, "Really? I'd never really noticed that." As I stared thinking about it, I noticed a lot of similarities, so I told that to my editor, and she said, "That's fascinating. I always thought that you were the squirrel." So I'm either the girl or the squirrel.
How did you develop Flora's distinctive personality?
I didn't really know what I was doing. But when I think about the comment that my friend made, a lot of what Flora does really comes from me and a lot of that is me.
This story contains frequent references to three comics that Flora enjoys: Terrible Things Can Happen to You!, The Criminal Element, and The Illuminated Adventures of the Amazing Incandesto!. Did you enjoy comics as a child?
I did, but there wasn't really a superhero comic that I was fascinated with. I was fascinated with (the comic strip) Peanuts. There were these great Peanuts treasuries at the library and my brother and I took turns checking those out. We read that over and over again. Charlie Brown more than anyone else is my superhero.
Do any events in the story relate to experiences in your life?
No, not in a direct way, but in an indirect way that kind of a lot of the emotional experience of being me [is] in there; there's hope, cynicism, fear, hunger. I'm like the squirrel—I'm always hungry.
If you had a superpower like the squirrel, what would it be?
If I had a superpower, I would like to not worry. I'm a hand-wringer and a worrier, and I know it's a waste of time. But I can't seem to stop worrying, so not worrying would be my superpower.
What do you want readers to take away from this novel?
I write the book, but it's not complete until you read it. What I hope you take away from the book is that terrible things can happen to you and wonderful things can happen to you, and in the meantime, things are really, really funny. There's a lot to be afraid of, and there's also a lot of love.
How did you become interested in writing as a career?
I had a long journey to become a writer. There was an English professor in college who told me I should go to graduate school for writing, and instead of doing that, I decided I was going to be a writer. Which then, I didn't do. So from the time I was 20 to the time I was 30, I wanted to be a writer, but I didn't write. When I was 30 years old, I was old enough to see that I could go the rest of my life talking about it, but not doing it. At 30, I started to write by doing two pages a day. But I knew for a long time that writing was something I wanted to do.
What words of advice can you offer to aspiring writers?
I say the same thing to kids and adults because I think the rules of what you need to do are pretty simple. You have to read a lot, and you have to find some way to do the writing, which was the thing that eluded me from the time I was 20 until I was 30. So for me, it was just two pages a day- that's the deal I made with myself and I still stick with it.
Do you have any plans for future novels?
I do have a future novel plan, but I never talk about it until I've turned it in to my editor. It's kind of like naming a baby before it's born- it makes me nervous. But I'm working on something. And there are also a couple novels in Mercy Watson books for younger readers that are coming out pretty soon.
TFK Editor Update: Flora and Ulysses received the American Library Association's prestigious John Newbery Award on January 27, 2014. This story was updated on February 3, 2014, with a book photo depicting the medal and additional edits throughout.


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For some unexplained reason, most children are fascinated by dinosaurs at some point. I'd be willing to wager that if we were to poll the citizens of the country under 7 years old, paleontologist would be the top answer to the question "What do you want to be when you grow up?" Perhaps it's the fact that dinosaurs stir the imagination. Maybe it's the fact that now we would consider them monsters, but once, they were the dominant species on earth. Whatever the reason, dinosaurs have always held a special place in our hearts, due in part to the fact that so many of us were passionate about them when we were young.
With apologies to any movie which featured dinosaurs previously – In 1993 Steven Spielberg brought them to life on the big screen for the first time.


text: Free Agents Not Returning Alan Ball Martellus Bennett Keith Brooking Derrick Dockery Abram Elam Bradie James Anthony Spencer Frank Walker Free Agents Re-Signed Mat McBriar Montrae Holland Jesse Holley (RFA) Kevin Ogletree (RFA) Laurent Robinson Tony Fiammetta Players Cut/Retired Jon Kitna Terrence Newman Orlando Scandrick Free Agents Signed Carl Nicks G- With several high priced free agents, NO can't sign them all. Nicks is an all-pro that would give our OL a big boost. Brandon Carr CB- Big, young, physical CB. Has experience playing in man coverage. Tyvon Branch S- Drafted as a CB before moving to S. Very active player that is a tackling machine with ability in coverage. Draft 1(14) The Cardinals play spoiler again this year, taking DeCastro right from infront of our face. With no other players at 14 really worth the pick IMO, I believe we explore a trade. My guess is Tennessee likes Michael Floyd, and wants to jump ahead of the Eagles to grab him. Officially Dallas trades #14 to Tennessee for #20 their 3rd rounder. 1(20 via trade) Donta Hightower LB Alabama 6'4" 260lbs- Physically imposing LB that has been the playercaller for the nation's best defense. Not asked to rush the QB as much as Upshaw, but does have the flexibility to play inside or outside in the NFL. Also has the capability to be the physcial/emotional leader that everyone is looking for. 2(45) Jayron Hosley CB Virginia Tech 5'10" 170lbs- Led the nation in INTs last year. Undersized, but plays aggressive and is very smooth. Also a dangerous punt returner. 3(83) Marcus Forston DL Miami 6'3" 300lbs- Explosive athlete when healthy, but has had 2 seasons ended by injury. Mentally tough and mature, comes from a tough background but has stayed out of trouble and is turning pro to support his family. When healthy, some people compare his play to Warren Sapp. 3(84 via trade) Amini Silatolu OL Midwestern St 6'3" 320lbs- Small school LT that plays with a mean streak. Has the strength to compete in the NFL from the start, but will need to work on technique and may need to move inside. Compares favorably to Carl Nicks' current teammate, Jahri Evans. 4(114) Ladarius Green TE La-Lafayette 6'6" 240lbs- Phillips hasn't looked the same since his injury and Bennett may not return. Green is a tall, athletic receiving TE who gives good effort blocking but will need to get stronger. 5(145) Keith Tandy CB West Virginia 5'10" 195lbs- Recruited as a QB, he learned the CB spot as a RS freshman. Plays the ball well and shows good feel for routes because of his offensive experience, but lacks defensive experience and can be overly aggressive. 6(176) Jerry Franklin ILB Arkansas 6'1" 240lbs- We lack depth at the LB position. All Franklin does is make plays, he may lack the size to be an every down player, but could be a special teams ace and valuable backup. 6(Bowen Comp) Chris Rainey RB/WR/ST Florida 5'8" 175lbs- Special teams demon with the ability to take it to the house everytime he touches the ball. Has some character concerns, and size/durability seems to always make guys like him drop but he could be worth the risk. 7(207) James Brown OT Troy 6'4" 318lbs- JC transfer that has improved every year as a LT. Was a HS weightlifting champion and has the feet to stay outside, but still needs more experience. Should give Parnell some competition for the backup OT spot.


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network router opinions on (security)
would you think a FVs318 Firewall VPN router is sufficient for a SOHO it has a logging capabilities of Public IP's that are scanning or attempting to break-in to a network? not full IDS /IPS correct me if I am wrong.
Would you opt to use a wrt54Gs with firmware of ddwrt with link logger installed on separate host.
Previous setup was BEFSR41 and every time internet is breaking up whole network is fct up. Its hard to convince management since IT investment is not really there focus. Would you say that hw is obsolete.
Honestly its rudeness that I don't like the IT head itself wants no change... he just pulled out the plug without telling us. He is always out/ away.... but when he sees somethings.. he doesn't like boom no net.... fuck network cant argue if ur the son of the boss aight. I just want to share my frustration.
What is the best network set-up or any network diagrams or best practice for a network.
that's all I got I have to improvise if no budget ....
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In a big-screen remake of classic 70s British cop show The Sweeney, it's big Ray Winstone kicking down doors. He talks to Shereen Low.
Ray Winstone doesn't mince his words. While most people would make the most of being the centre of attention in a luxury London hotel, he admits he'd rather be anywhere else.
"I'm all right, but I could be picking my feet instead," he says, with a hearty chortle. "And I want a fag ..."
Down to earth and instantly likeable with no airs and graces, Winstone is as about as far from a sex symbol as you could get, with his gruff, gravelly voice, ripe Cockney accent and slicked-back grey hair.
Yet in his latest film, The Sweeney, the 55-year-old British actor, whose stocky build screams more teddy bear than screen hunk, manages to bed Captain America beauty Hayley Atwell, who happens to be 25 years his junior.
Viewers are treated to Winstone slobbing out in full glory - belly, saggy boxers and all. It's not the first time the former boxer has bared flesh on screen - he revealed rather a lot in Sexy Beast, Beowulf and the TV drama Compulsion.
"I have no qualms with that," he says.
"I am a big ol' boy. I am the guy next door. We're not all built like Dolph Lundgren or Arnold Schwarzenegger - we're British and we can be slobby.
"I think part of playing a character is getting rid of the vanity and the ego about what you might look like on screen, and I'm cool with that."
Winstone, who is happily married to wife Elaine and is a doting dad to three daughters, is baffled by his popularity with the ladies.
"I don't know what women see in a 55-year-old fat man," he says, rolling his eyes.
"I haven't got a clue how that works. If I am a sex symbol, then fantastic, I love every minute of it.
"I think it's the way you treat women that makes you sexy. You've got to be genuine, a bit of a gentleman and a bit of a rogue at the same time, but if you try to set out to be that, you're never going to achieve it."
Winstone plays Detective Inspector Jack Regan, the role made famous by the late Inspector Morse star John Thaw, in Nick Love's big screen adaptation of the cult 70s TV series.
Ben Drew (aka rapper Plan B) steps into Dennis Waterman's shoes for the role of sidekick Detective Sergeant George Carter.
As part of the Flying Squad, Regan and Carter employ non-conventional and largely violent methods to catch criminals.
"Sometimes these guys are more the villains. They break down doors, smash your furniture in and ask questions later," explains Winstone.
He relished the opportunity to do his own action sequences, brandishing guns, chasing cars and swapping blows, even if he ended up breaking a rib or two.
"Playing with guns, you revert to being a little boy, although guns are not toys," he says.
"You start to get to the wrong side of 50 and think, 'Maybe I just want to do love scenes now'. But when you've got to the end of the day and you're aching, out of breath and you've been roughing and tumbling all over the place, you actually feel pretty proud of yourself."
Winstone has actually come full circle because he had a small, non-speaking part in the original TV show back in 1976. "It's weird. This is almost like it should be the last job I ever do. Let's hope it's not!
"I was an extra and wasn't supposed to say anything, and I remember I got into trouble because I kept talking," he recalls, laughing.
In the few years that followed, Winstone ended up filing for bankruptcy twice, before working his way back up the ranks.
"Here we are, more than 30 years later, and I'm playing Jack Regan," he says.
He speaks highly of Thaw, who he worked with in the short film Masculine Mescaline in the mid-90s, and later on Kavanagh QC.
"I liked him as a man, as well as an actor," he says. "He was a complete and utter professional, but a good guy with it. A very special man. I can't say any more or I'll cry."
But Winstone was adamant that he didn't want to play Regan the way Thaw did.
"I am old enough to remember the original series, which was ground-breaking TV at the time. It was down and dirty, and we could all relate to it in a way. I knew we couldn't make it as good as his [Thaw's] performance, because you can't. It's impossible. The man was fantastic.
"John Thaw and Dennis Waterman are icons to our age group. Once I realised we weren't copying them and were making our own film, then it was all right."
However, he hopes the film will introduce a new generation to The Sweeney, especially with the casting of Drew.
"Little Benny is blindin' in it, he's very good," says Winstone. "He looks like he can kick a door down, and he can act. He'll bring a new generation to it."
Fans of Winstone's tough guy methods won't be disappointed - there are punch-ups and high-speed chases galore. But though Winstone might have made a name for himself playing hardened bruisers in movies such as 44 Inch Chest and The Departed, in real life he says he's a big softie.
"Don't tell no one but I'm not like the geezers I play," he says. "Loads of things scare me in everyday life, but you have to hide a bit and put on a front. I cry at movies, I cry at scripts, I cried when West Ham got back into the premiership last season.
"I'm even frightened of spiders."
What: The Sweeney starring Ray Winstone, Hayley Atwell and Plan B (Ben Drew)
When: Opens February 28
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