text: I caught my first swarm of the year here in Rupert, Idaho. I had just finished making two nucs from two other hives when the phone rang and it was the Sheriff's Office saying that they received a call about a swarm of bees that were all over a swing set in town. My wife and I were already in the bee suits from the nucs so we hopped in the pickup, which is always set up with swarm equipment this time of year and we headed out. We were on the scene within about 5 minutes and the swarm was about 3 feet off the ground hanging from a swing. It was a big one. I guestimated approximately 7 lbs. We got it in the box with one easy shake and placed in drawn out comb with some new foundation, pollen patty and some essential oil sugar syrup. Left it set for about 20 minutes and watched all but about 20 bees walk right in the front entrance. Closed it up and took it home and set it all up. Checked their feed today and they had eaten a whole quart of the syrup. Filled it up again and just peeked under the inner cover to see them and all ten frames had bees and they were as calm as could bee. Closed it up and so far it looks good. Hope they stay around. I will check them again in a week or two. Bad part is I never remember to take pictures of the before swarm. Got a couple of them walking in the front though. Just excited to let people know the swarm season has started in Idaho. About two weeks earlier than last year.


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Hey Man .... nice shot.
Natural Selection in Action - Burglar Accidentally Shoots Himself With Rifle He Stole, Dies
Shortly before 10:00 am on Sunday March 3, 2013 Polk County Sheriffs Office deputies responded to the report of a gunshot victim in a vehicle on farmland north of 5605 Halls Ferry RD outside of Independence.
Initial information indicated the victim was unconscious, however when deputies arrived on scene at approximately 10:08 am they found the male subject to be deceased with indications that death had occurred well before the reporting party discovered the vehicle.
The victim identified as 19 year old Genaro Hernandez Mendoza, most recently of West Salem but with ties to Independence, died of an apparent gunshot wound while driving a farm truck through the fields belonging to the farm located at the given address.
Investigators determined that Hernandez Mendoza and the involved farm truck were connected to an overnight burglary and theft at 1010 Independence Hwy, discovered earlier that morning. Among other items, several firearms were stolen from the residence at that location.
It was determined that Hernandez Mendoza had entered the house on Independence Hwy and stolen several items. He then left the scene on foot to hide the stolen property before returning in a stolen farm truck. He entered the home a second time, taking more items including a rifle and shotgun.
The evidence showed that while Hernandez Mendoza was driving away from the scene he was the victim of an accidental, self inflicted gun shot wound from the rifle he had just taken from 1010 Independence Hwy.
Sheriff Bob Wolfe stated that while the investigation would continue in order to absolutely eliminate the possibility of other parties being involved with the burglary, it seemed clear that the death of Mr. Hernandez Mendoza was accidental and the result of failing to make safe the stolen weapons being transported.
Burglar Accidentally Shoots Himself With Rifle He Stole, Dies? | Albany Tribune News
Black Blade: And yes, I did find this rather amusing.
When you're born you get a ticket to the freak show. When you're born in America , you get a front row seat. - George Carlin
Hey Man .... nice shot.
I bet his family sues and the gun control crowd uses this as an example as to why it should be illegal to store loaded weapons. It's not the kid's fault he was just a "product of his environment". It's the right wing extremist farm owners fault.
Maybe they should just make stealing guns illegal... Wait...
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?" -Thomas Jefferson-
"Our rights come from our humanity and may not be legislated away -- not by a vote of Congress, not by the consensus of our neighbors, not even by agreement of all Americans but one." Judge Andrew P. Napolitano
I think "Crime Stoppers" should send the dead bulgar heirs a check for self inflicted crime stopping.
KARMA in real time
I'd rather be a "has been" than a wannabe!
2TIMOTHY2,4 No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairsof this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.
God, Guns and Guts made America free,
Lets keep all three.
See?? Even shotguns use AR-15's for self defense.
that gun is a hero. stopped crime in its tracks. give it a medal and put it on the non-assault weapons list.
Now the taxpayer wont have to pay to house him.

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It's one thing to cover a Beatles or Harry Nilsson tune, another to cover a whole album. Anyone old enough to remember the 1978 fiasco that involved the Peter Frampton/Bee Gees butchering of Sgt. Pepper, for instance, would think twice before going near that one. But if Petra Haden can cover The Who Sell Out — solo — anything's possible. Now we have the Smithereens and the Walkmen taking on whole albums with, respectively, Meet the Smithereens! (Koch) and Pussy Cats (Record Collection). The first, as the title suggests, re-creates the Beatles' first American album, whereas the Walkmen try their hand at the drunken, post-Beatles epic that John Lennon produced for Harry Nilsson during a notorious "lost weekend" in 1974. Neither is a radical departure from the original, but they're personal statements just the same, if only because each album reveals what resonates most about the Beatles and, indirectly, Lennon for the two bands: youthful exuberance on one hand, decadent debauchery on the other.
Youthful exuberance may seem a tall order for an outfit that's been around for a quarter-century, especially since the Smithereens' last two original albums (1994's A Date with the Smithereens and 1998's God Save the Smithereens) evinced a good deal of world-weariness. But Meet the Smithereens! is more labor of love than career move. They nail the mix of lust and joy of "I Wanna Hold Your Hand' and "It Won't Be Long," and that's hardly as easy as it sounds. Yet as careful as they are to stick to the Beatles blueprint, they use the same double-fisted guitar attack that characterized their '80s hits. The mix is the same, with acoustic guitars and raucous garage overdrive. And everything is heavy on melody, keyed to Pat DiNizio's expressive vocals. Only one track, "Not a Second Time," is notably more downcast than the original — they make it more a sad goodbye than a good-riddance. But Meet the Smithereens! is largely about the pleasure of remembering why you started a band in the first place.
Covering Nilsson's Pussy Cats is trickier business because the album itself is such an oddity. The original was star-crossed from the start: Nilsson blew his voice out before the sessions and was warned by his doctor not to record. But he wanted to work with Lennon so badly that he kept that information secret. To back Nilsson, Lennon brought in drinking buddies Keith Moon and Jesse Ed Davis to trash their way through some rock oldies. But much of the album — including the rawest and best version of Jimmy Cliff's "Many Rivers To Cross" ever recorded — comes from the heart of the hangover. The teary songs that Nilsson wrote for the album might have been hits if he'd played them straight — if he hadn't, for example, stuck the line "You know I'll miss you baby/I'll miss the alimony too" into the break-up song "Don't Forget Me." But his emotions are messy and scattered, just like the album itself.
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It's a live-action Wall-E. I'm curious what the twist will be. Are the humans the aliens? Infected with something? Is he hallucinating like Moon?
That's exactly what I was thinking too when I first saw the preview.
I came into this thread expecting an epic fantasy with Daedra, swords, and Patrick Stewart.
This looks somewhat interesting, will have to read more about it.
I don't get the Wall-E comparisons, but I've been looking forward to Director Joseph Kosinski's followup to Tron.
If nothing else, it'll be beautiful and fun. I'm also in love with Olga Kurylenko, so that helps.
they should just re-release Moon instead of another crap Tom Cruise sci-fi flick..
Moon is so good. Sooooo good.
Cruise has made 3 Sci Fi movies. War of the Worlds, Minority Report and now Oblivion. I wouldn't classify War of the Worlds as crap and Minority Report was actually quite good.
Cruise gets a lot of flack, but the guy has WAY more good movies than bad ones and he commits himself to every role. To me, the guy is very watchable.
I agree. He might be a little weird, but he's a good actor. Plus, he does the vast majority of his own stunts. That's kinda cool.
Wall-E meets Matrix.
With way too much shown in the trailer for my taste. Why they give everything away early, I have no idea.
I'm lukewarm on Cruise. He can sometimes do it well, but I wouldn't want to bet on it. And he's sure not the right Jack Reacher.....
I agree to some extent with that statement but IMO it's despite his acting ability. The same way that The Matrix (at least the first one) was a good movie despite Keanu Reeves. I also agree that Cruise does commit to his role but most often than not he plays the character way over the top.
I like Cruise as an actor. As the guy above me stated, he's made a lot more good movies than bad.
Cruise the person tho? ehh..


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I think getting rid of KP would be a mistake, but maybe not. I'm still really excited about Will Hill though I think he's got all of the tools to be incredible in our secondary. If Brown can duplicate what he did last season we are in good shape. Kenny Phillips goes unnoticed alot but he's hands down our best safty.
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There's no way in hell we should trade Stevie Brown, a guy who had 7 INTS this year, for a second round pick. KP's had injury issues, and it may be better to let him walk. Also, with Rolle and Hill, we'd have 3 safeties who are capable.
KP is expendible IMO. His injury concerns are far too much risk. I know he has strong supporters on GMB.
BTW, NOBODY is going to give us a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th round pick for Stevie Brown.
Draft picks are the only players that are cap-friendly. That's why we keep duds that we draft for WAYYY too long.
I have to think you're going to pay a second round pick about as much as it would take to sign Brown, and in the Coughlin system, the #2 will be sitting on the bench for two- four years. Brown only has one good season behind him, so he can't really stake a claim for huge bucks. You gotta love how the ball just seems to find it's way to Brown's hands. It would be great if that trend continues; but there's no guarantee.
KP is really questionable signing. His injury history doesn't make him worth a big contract. We'll have to see how those negotiations go.
Don't discount the ability that Will Hill has. If we sign either\or Brown\Phillips we've still got Hill to be either the number 2 or 3 safety. Getting Hill on the field fulltime isn't going to hurt this team at all.
KP is the best safety the Giants have. In the games he played, the defense looked SO MUCH better than games without him. He can cover consistently, tackle and ballhawk whereas Stevie can only ballhawk.
I definitely think we should not trade Stevie Brown at all. We keep him and watch him prove that he can play here. Does anyone know about Terrell Thomas? I hope he can play with us, I love watching him play.
i think the secondary plays better when KP is in the game but he's always hurt. which is why they should let him go
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The engine has developed a knock
A little back story, because I like to tell a story. Bought a season pass to the drag strip, opening day is today. Fire the beast up this afternoon and I hear a slight knock, most people wouldn't hear it. I blow it off. Get to the track and take a breather and gather my bearings because I'm still getting used to 600+hp, hopping on the freeway I gave it in 3rd gear and I got the "traction engaged" message! Not bragging, but more adrenaline rushes when I drive this car than the 150hp (02 suzuki gsxr 750) sport bike I used to know as the only thing to get my adrenaline going. Ten minutes pass and I get in line, I'm two cars to the tree sitting next to a building with my window down, I hear the knock echoing off said building. I ask the traffic director "Is that me" he replies, "yes". I ask how to leave and he tells me to pull out through an opening, and states "don't blow it up"
We first thought rocker, but it may also be a bearing in the charger. It's not a bad knock, but it got worse from the drive there (20 miles) so I know it is something.
I have yet to tear into an engine, so I don't know much about them. I still have 30+ lbs of oil pressure at idle, I don't think it's that big of a deal, but, like I said, I haven't torn into an engine and have no idea what I'm getting into.
I know my description isn't much to go by, here is a video I took earlier today (before I left for the track). You probably won't hear the knock (drivers side is where it sounds like it's coming from) but I'm trying to give as much info as I can.
I plan to get another video when I take the stethoscope to it to hopefully find out where it's coming from. I don't want to fire it up if I don't have too.
What I know about the heads is:
Ported and polished by BES engines
Patriot Gold Dual springs and Ti retainers
Comp cams 7.450 pushrods with Yella Terra rockers
I will ask the previous owner if he can find out more about who did the work (the guy he bought it from had the work done).
For those who want to help me figure this out, but don't know the car:
Re: The engine has developed a knock
Pull the covers and take a look at it.
When you bought the car I assumed you pulled the tune and made sure it was safe before boosting on it right?
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Re: The engine has developed a knock
what's the worst that would happen if you took your belts off that supercharger for a minute? that doesn't exactly sound like rod knock, but that could be your phone. maybe a collapsed lifter? any misfiring?
Re: The engine has developed a knock
I didn't pull the tune, I was assured numerous times by the seller that it is tuned for safety. I'm set up to have it towed to a speed shop tomorrow. I will most likely have them dyno tune it (after they fix it). I just had my neighbor have a listen and made a small video. The beginning of the video is of the drivers side of the engine and then moves to the passenger side. The noise sounds like it's coming from the drivers side.
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the frequency of it should tell you something--crank- vs cam-centric (not official terms; made up by me just now)
...or ignition-centric.
...the crank turns twice for every revolution of the cam. the pistons and rods are tied to the revolutions of the crank, and everything in the upper half (heads/valves) are tied to the revolutions of the cam.
and if it only happens during a spark/cylinder ignition, that's significant as well. you can isolate that by disconnecting plugs one at a time.
you can also get yourself a cheap listening tool, basically an aluminum rod that will allow you to localize the sound by touching it to different parts of the engine
to get the most accurate indicator of the revolutions of the crank, use a timing tool that flashes a light at every ignition of one of the cylinders. a flashing light is easier to interpret than trying to keep track of the markings on the harmonic balancer with the un-aided eye.
it's pretty easy to tell whether a sound is at the same frequency as the timing light, or twice as frequent (or another rate altogether/irregular)
also check for a smell in the exhaust. oil smells like burned oil, coolant smells like... burned cat urine-ish.
//I just had a listen, that's more of a rattle, sounds rather irregular. how does it change with increased RPMs? (sort of a two-person job, one person to man the camera/mic).
like you wouldn't jump on a V with that motor in it, as long as it sounded fine. I would, no doubt in my mind.
//...wait. is it for sale? (discount for the noise?) :-D I'm such a dick. I'm just teasing, I think it's gonna be OK--I was expecting worse--like, an obvious knock due to blow-by (gouges in the cylinder walls).
truth be told, I don't have any personal experience with valvetrain failures nor have I heard them first-hand, so I am not qualified to say it isn't a pushrod or broken spring, or anything else loose under the valve covers (especially not from here). I've had everything else go wrong with engines of mine, though.
I was at one time long ago, an ASE cert-holding Air Force mechanic.
//izcain is just mad that you have a super ****in' awesome car. I think he's one of those guys who can't just be -happy- for people who have nice things
//so far it's been robojesus and izcain to the rescue. God help you
where are you? Los Angeles area, by any chance? I have... nothing going on Fri-Sun (full-time student now. your mom goes to college!).
oh nevermind. you're way up there. damn... that's you? shit, man, um...
ok, to share exactly what I'm thinking, I am curious exactly how much driving you did on the motor before the sound started. I wonder this because there are things like Lucas oil products that will thicken the oil and hide sounds and symptoms temporarily, say, long enough to sell a car.
I hope that's not the case... that the sale was driven by an imminent problem.
maybe there's just a switch you missed in the cockpit, or you gotta jiggle the handle or something. (just don't jump through the phone at 'im! [especially not on account of what I just said about the Lucas oil])
//I like stories, and humor. I was also a medic, and know that telling and relating to stories is an indicator of a favorable prognosis. having a name like robojesus is not.
//k i'm done. I'm not always like this. it's only when I'm awake. sorry
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I haven't revved it since the noise started, but it's consistent with idle. I drove it 600 plus miles home, the noise came only 50 or so miles after that. I don't believe the seller tried to screw me, he has numerous thousands into it to make it good in the few months he owned it. The oil was changed hundred or so miles before I Bought it with Mobil one. I was told to change the oil before taking it to a shop, I think I will do this. Any filters and weight recommendations? I'm not even sure how much or if The pan is still a stock ls 6 I'll get under it as soon as I have the chance.
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man, I forgot about how loud the exhaust is.
-your oil pressure is 30 idle/40ish above-idle,
-you have fluid in the cooling system, and the temps are fine...
-and you don't smell oil or coolant from the exhaust...
try to:
1: isolate the sound with the stethoscope,
2: do this rev test (and get a recording of it):
4k (midrange) and hold,
then 5.5k (high-ish range) and hold.
sounds are more telling as you raise the RPM. as the engine speeds up, the duration of all the actions in the motor are shortened... this causes some things to float, others to bang harder... the timing advances, and oil pressure rises... the balance of rotating parts can improve or worsen (temporarily, through the different RPMs).
depending on the issue, the sound could simply speed up with the motor(in "lockstep"--you'll be able to tell, and it would indicate something linked directly to the crank or cam, and 2:1 crank to cam rotational ratio is key in determining that), but it could also get louder, get softer, or go away (indicating something secondary to the crank or cam, such as lifters, pushrods, rocker arms, springs, valves)
so. a useful sound bite would be bumping the rpm a few times ("stoplight revs"), and holding it at 4k and then 5.5k-ish.
doing it while rolling and accelerating under load might produce different results, as well.
and then there's figuring out where it's coming from--high/low? front/back? left/right... also try unplugging the power to the coils one by one (isolate cylinder spark/ignition)
also try disconnecting and reconnecting the battery to see if doing a "soft" reset of the computer makes the sound go away. (for the MAF and the speed density tune you have, which I'm not familiar with, but it's worth a try to "turn back" an error counter that the computer might have decided it had enough of--though 600 miles is a little long, and if what you say is accurate, the sound has grown louder...)
If you could reduce the sound coming from the exhaust, -somehow- that would help with this endeavor. maybe extension pipes trailing out the back end of the car, and under the garage door... I don't have ideas for that one, other than something like an exhaust extractor (like they use in shops).
It could also be something -really- simple, like loose exhaust flange bolts, or the headers coming loose from the block. aftermarket headers tend to come loose, constantly. exhaust leaks can sound like knocks but they'll also have a "putt putt putt" quality to it. see real quick if the sound is more noticeable under the car, nearer the transmission.
I should invest in a code reader; I would like to hook one up for this. they're inexpensive and they make bluetooth enabled ones that remain plugged into your computer and will send real-time readouts to your smartphone.. sub-$100 range, if I recall correctly. Ebay, and I've seen auto parts stores carry them)
lastly: do you still have full power out of the motor (has there been a noticeable drop in power)
Re: The engine has developed a knock
I've never felt full power, I was nice on the drive home because I wanted to make it home, and I haven't turned off the traction control yet. I've been near full throttle, but for a very short time
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I applaud your efforts to help Matt. I can also understand why you would suggest Lucas oil being used to hide noise. I want to ensure you and Matt that this was not done. Actually, you can tell if Lucas was used by looking at the dipstick and even more so when changing the oil. I would not of spent over 5 grand on the car before selling it if I was trying to hide anything.
To me, it sounds like lifter tic. There are common reasons for this. Deposits in the oil, bad lifter, low oil, or bent push rod. Although the oil had about 1k miles on it when he took it, I suggested he change it out and maybe put a slightly heavier weight in it just to ensure any deposits were not the issue. From there, taking off the valve covers to see where it is coming from is next.
I just read your comment about a loose header. That is a possibility also that I did not take into account. A long time ago, I drove one of my dad's hot rod's. I down shifted at a high RPM so they exhaust would pop. One too many times and it back-fired pretty loud. A similar noise, as a lifter would make, came afterwards. It ended up being a blown header gasket.
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D3, you crack me up.
Actually, I had a header leak that may have sounded like this, but mine was more subtle, and my hearing wouldn't allow me to hear it though EVERYBODY else said they could. Had new gaskets put on, buttoned up really nice, and now it's quiet. The sound in your video does sound like that kind of leak, only more pronounced than mine. Sure wouldn't want you to undertake that kind of effort (and expense) unless you were pretty certain that's it, though.
Question becomes how best to determine if it is a header leak. D3's "stethoscope" recommendation is probably the way to go. Even a portion of a doggone garden hose with one end at your ear and the other end moved around and positioned down near the exhaust ports might work. You just need to focus such a listening device at the location of the noise and get it to your ear to determine exactly where it's loudest then better problem identification can occur.
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I know the stethoscope method is widely recommended but on a recent issue w an ls1 this proved to be ineffective for me. You could hear the tick everywhere. It turned out there was a bent pushrod, bad lifter, and damaged cam lobe. There really is no replacement for opening the engine and investigating.
The garden hose should help to find exhaust leaks but if you have an aluminum block the stethoscope may not help localize the issue. Pulling the valve covers and checking for a bent pushrod and loose or failing rocker is pretty easy. Going further will likely require pulling the heads.
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I did not mean to offend! the thought crossed my mind "what if" the previous owner is on the forums, but I did not consider it would be an apache pilot (gimme a break! lol are you WO or O-type?)
umm funny story about Rucker... anyway.
I feel like I should have asked:
-does it have solid lifters, or rollers, or hydraulic rollers...?
-did you gain altitude between the sale location and your home, by any chance. I have never messed with timing on OBDII engines, but... what's that about advance--maybe you need more octane...... (what does the +1 advance mean/how was that accomplished, I wonder)
what octane does it use? was there an explanation for the 8:1 compression and low boost? just curious
there is a huge chance I am wrong about everything I say, but if I'm wrong, might as well be wrong strong
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D3 your on a role today not sure what your getting at or where you get your information LOL
Nice to be singled out though! Geesh I feel special lol
I meant no disrespect to the OP. Was just seeing where he was at with his problem. Obviously D3 has it covered for you though!
I am one of the ones that babied the car home and DID pull the tune as soon as I got home and looked at it (maggied V) and it was not a clean tune AT ALL. So yes I ask if he checked this. But I guess we always trust what people tell us.
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the whole thing? I did not see that coming.
//the more I think about it, the more the MAF delete bugs me. Try... an octane booster additive, one of those $5 bottles from Wal Mart or a parts store. Couple bottles of it, even
Assuming everything is in the same working order as when you picked it up, the only things that changed are the car's location (altitude, temp, humidity) and the fuel (octane)...
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When I decided to go WRX I went to the nearest dealer expecting to have to order one. Turned out they had a used '13 w/ 12K. It was the right color but a sedan - not what I wanted. They also asked new money for it. I was upfront that I wasn't interested but I'd drive it if they insisted.
When we were done and they realized they weren't talking me into it, then told me it'd be 12 - 16 weeks if I were to order. The reason, they said, was Subaru wasn't building hatchbacks first - sedans only for now. Ummm... okay - don't call me, I'll call you.
Got online and found a not-as-local dealership with exactly what I wanted due to arrive 10/18 (or so they say). I put a deposit on that one.
Question for y'all. Since both can't be telling the truth, which is messing with me? I have a tough time believing dealer #1 though won't be at all surprised if I get a call from dealer #2 floating some excuse why the car won't be there when promised.
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I got to the cricket ground late. When I asked the man next to me what the score was, he spent the next 10 seconds kissing teeth at me!
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I'm sorry if this question has been asked before, but I'm struggling with figuring out how to google it right. I don't know how to pose the question without an example.
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Assuming that Bradshaw is out Thursday which I assume he will be considering it is a neck injury which RB would you play?
I have the #1 waiver claim in my one league and I have Bradshaw and Wilson is on my bench.
Not feeling good about starting Wilson due to the way the Giants have used him sparingly at best.
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by Yesne Alici, MD
Cancer-related fatigue is a distressing, persistent, and subjective sense of physical or emotional tiredness that is caused by cancer or its treatment and that interferes with day-to-day functioning. Fatigue is one of the most prevalent and troubling side effects cancer survivors experience both during treatment and after treatment ends. It can significantly diminish a survivor's quality of life.
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By reviewing a detailed history of the onset, pattern, and duration of your fatigue, as well as its triggers and alleviating factors, your doctor will determine what is causing your fatigue. Your doctor may also request tests to look at your blood counts, electrolytes, and liver, kidney, and thyroid gland functioning. Medical conditions, medication side effects, alcohol or substance abuse, poor nutrition, pain, depression, anxiety, sleep disturbances, and poor physical fitness are the most common causes of fatigue. The good news is these problems are often treatable. Your oncologist may recommend that you consult with an internist, an endocrinologist, a psychologist, or a psychiatrist, depending on the factors that play a role in your fatigue.
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Many survivors buy in to the misconception that fatigue is an inevitable consequence of cancer and its treatment.
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Psychosocial Interventions
A number of psychosocial interventions are effective in managing cancer-related fatigue. Cognitive behavioral therapy is a form of psychotherapy that focuses on examining the relationships among a person's thoughts, feelings, and behaviors. Cognitive behavioral interventions targeting dysfunctional thoughts about fatigue, sleep disturbances, and lack of activity can help you put your cancer-related fatigue in perspective.
Educational programs, such as pamphlets or online courses that provide information on physical activity, distress management, sleep hygiene, energy restoration and conservation, and fatigue management, are helpful tools for cancer survivors. Practicing energy restoration and conservation strategies is an especially helpful way to reduce fatigue. Some examples include setting priorities, pacing your energy-consuming activities, allowing time for adequate rest, delegating tasks, using energy-saving devices, and participating in enjoyable, restorative activities.
Mindfulness-Based Therapies
Research has shown yoga, acupuncture, and other mindfulness-based therapies to be effective in relieving cancer-related fatigue. Massage therapy, music therapy, and other methods of relaxation also can be helpful. Ask your doctor if he or she knows of any mindfulness-based programs in your community.
Psychostimulants, such as methylphenidate and dextroamphetamine, are medications that have been tested and effectively used to reduce fatigue. Talk with your doctor to determine whether you could benefit from this type of medication.
Although fatigue is one of the most distressing side effects of cancer treatment, this debilitating condition is often under-recognized and undertreated. Many survivors buy in to the misconception that fatigue is an inevitable consequence of cancer and its treatment; they choose not to report their symptoms to avoid seeming like complainers. On the contrary, cancer survivors should seek relief from cancer-related fatigue. By reporting your symptoms of fatigue to your doctor, you can then work together to devise a plan to reduce your fatigue.
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Dr. Yesne Alici is a psychiatrist at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York, NY. She is board certified in psychiatry, geriatric psychiatry, and psychosomatic medicine. She primarily works with people with brain tumors and with older individuals with cancer.
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PAUSD Superintendent's Survey (now through June 4)
Original post made by Gunn Parent, Another Palo Alto neighborhood, on May 25, 2013
Here's the message:
Annual PAUSD Superintendent Survey
Complete by Tues June 4
Every Spring the Superintendent conducts a survey. Please click here to complete the survey by Tues, June 4. Your thoughts and suggestions through this survey are appreciated.
Here's the link:Web Link
a resident of Gunn High School
on May 26, 2013 at 8:36 am
I would love, love, LOVE to receive such a survey, but never have!
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 26, 2013 at 2:52 pm
It was also buried at the bottom of my kids' elementary school e-news. They don't really want you to fill it out - they just want to say it was available.
a resident of Green Acres
on May 26, 2013 at 3:22 pm
I can't wait to get my hands on this survey and neither can my friends and neighbors!
By the way, I am so grateful for Ken Dauber, WCDBPA, SEAN, PASS, and CAC for providing the parents in the district an opportunity to ask questions at the forum last week at which OCR attorneys presented.
I was, however, dismayed to see the Supt. there in the back of the room along with Camille. The parents who may have wanted to ask a question of the attorneys from OCR probably thought better of doing so because Kevin and Camille were there. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]
Just looking at the facts from the OCR violation last year alone Dr. Skelly will not receive a good evaltuation from me. In fact, if the Board were not so ineffective they would have disciplined or fired Kevin last year. Let's all give Kevin the evaluation he derserves! Based on all my investigations I can back up a poor performance review in many ways.
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on May 26, 2013 at 3:53 pm
The OCR meeting was a damned if you do, damned if you don't for Dr. Skelly and the BOE. People would have complained that they didn't care if they didn't attend. Might as well attend and get accurate info.
a resident of Green Acres
on May 26, 2013 at 6:02 pm
I The ultimate way of showing that you care would you have been to continue sponsoring the event. The fact that the district backed out of sponsorship says quite a bit in itself. If Dr. Skelly and Camille wanted to get information they could have sent someone else to take notes. I bet the Dr. Skelly and the board of education could have deputized one of their top-notch student reporters to come and take notes on a pad of paper. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on May 26, 2013 at 6:06 pm
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a resident of College Terrace
on May 26, 2013 at 7:42 pm
We have lived in PA for over 30 years and our youngest child is getting ready to graduate. It is sad to see the steady degradation of our PAUSD value structure in recent years. We have always had challenges and disagreements over various issues, but the current superintendent and board seem to not be well aligned with our traditions nor up to the caliber of past leadership. PAUSD has long nurtured a climate of innovation, embraced diversity and emphasized care for the whole child, working to prepare students for successful and fulfilling lives. High test scores were one natural result of these priorities, but not the primary purpose of our children's education. We recognized that our financial resources and strong demographics have helped us have high achievements, but we appreciated our good fortune and embraced serving all children well.
Despite lip service and half hearted efforts (often after failures occur), the district leadership seems to place test scores and elite college admittance as the primary measure of their success. Many of us believe and have experienced that it is not the best measures of our children's success.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 26, 2013 at 8:53 pm
Who is "They"? What exactly did "they" do, and how do you imagine "they" did it?
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 26, 2013 at 9:31 pm
"They" is 25 Churchill. Unlike the hot lunch survey, which was advertised several times in several places, including a direct e-mail from 25 Churchill, the Superintendent survey link is buried. If you search the PAUSD website for surveys, you are directed to the hot lunch survey, not a peep about a Superintendent survey.
For the Superintendent survey, you have to know to look, and then you have to really search to find it.
We receive direct e-mails from PAUSD regarding all sorts of things including Dr. Skelly's personal observations about certain times of year....I find it curious that this particular survey is so poorly advertised.
a resident of Green Acres
on May 26, 2013 at 9:33 pm
It is quite evident that "they" refers to the Superintendent and perhaps the Board of Education. Dr. Skelly is probably required to make it known to the public that this survey is available but he (and perhaps BOE) wanted it buried somewhere so perhaps fewer people would see it and take the iniative to fill it out. A similar thing happened when a letter from the former Paly Principal was neatly tucked into a bunch of other extraneous blah blah on the district's website. It was a letter highly critical of the PAUSD's wanting to spend 150K on a Pulic Communications Officer (or whatever they were going to call it) which was basically a high priced "District Spin Artist".
THANK YOU 'GUNN PARENT' for alerting us to this opportunity for the parents, tax payers and community members to make our feelings known about the performance of our under performing (or should I say poorly performing?) Superintendent.
Dr. Skelly, how 'bout using that Nixonian approach (some might call it honorable under these circumstances) and just resign before the public makes becomes the "decider" (in the words of another Repub)?
a resident of Green Acres
on May 26, 2013 at 9:34 pm
@Sara: You beat me to it by uno minuto! Thanks for your insightful comments!
a resident of Professorville
on May 26, 2013 at 10:54 pm
Hiding the survey sounds a lot like UNsponsoring the OCR meeting. Don't educate the public if you don't want them to know their rights and file complaints on violations of those rights. Don't send out a district email on your performance review if you don't want your managers to know what the public thinks. Funny but there have been a couple of "all hands" emails from Kevin in the last weeks but none on this?
a resident of Barron Park
on May 27, 2013 at 8:03 am
[Post removed by Palo Alto Online due to known false statement.]
a resident of Barron Park
on May 27, 2013 at 11:16 am
Hiding the survey - come on. The is submitted to every e-newsletter in the district and is done annually. And "buried in the eNews" - placement is determined by your school PTA email newsletter editor/format - for Gunn it appeared right below the school specific items under the "PAUSD & PTA" heading (where it is the first and only item). Some schools also put on their school home page (here's Nixon's Web Link).
a resident of Duveneck School
on May 27, 2013 at 1:18 pm
[Post removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on May 27, 2013 at 1:32 pm
We have received at least two emails from the superintendent in the last few weeks. I don't think this survey was mentioned?
a resident of Green Acres
on May 27, 2013 at 2:01 pm
@Another Gunn Parent: "Come on" yourself. The fact that the PTA was noticeably absent at the OCR meeting (among other instances of not being tuned into what is going on at the highest level at Churchill) it is not surprising that they would not want to make the access too easy for the public to criticize the Supt. Your statement that the PTA newsletter editor determines the placement speaks for itself. Would you even care to entertain the possibility that Dr. Skelly has a pretty tight control on the PTA as seems to be the case with the Board as well? I have noticed that Kevin pretty much calls the shots all the way around. Why couldn't he have made a request to put the news of a survey on his performance in a not too prominent place\?
a resident of Barron Park
on May 27, 2013 at 2:03 pm
Why should the PTA be involved in the OCR meeting?
a resident of Downtown North
on May 27, 2013 at 2:10 pm
I have a graduating senior at Paly and I have never seen this survey. It is not in the Paly Link (PTSA enews) or on the Paly home page. PTA enews is not the proper channel to reach all parents in the district. First you have to opt in and second the content is at the discretion of each school's enews PTA rep.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 27, 2013 at 2:11 pm
If you have to ask why PTA, or PTAC, should be there . . .
a resident of Barron Park
on May 27, 2013 at 2:22 pm
Yes, please explain. Why should the PTA be there?
a resident of another community
on May 27, 2013 at 2:54 pm
I am actually very confused. CAC was one of the sponsors of the OCR educational event. As far as I know the existence of CAC (Community Advisory Comity) for special education is somehow mandated by the law (Federal law, if I am not mistaken). I am not clear how the CAC can have be sponsoring/having educational interest in the event while PAUSD officials would not.
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on May 27, 2013 at 2:57 pm
Paly Parents - -The survey link IS in the PalyLink on Sunday May 26th in the PAUSD news section.
a resident of Green Acres
on May 27, 2013 at 6:33 pm
@confused: You are truly confused if you can't figure out why reps from the PTA shouldn't have been there or even lent a hand in organizing and sponsoring this event. These issues affect ALL of our children and I would think that anyone who is truly interested in a better outcome for all of our precious students would come out and at least write up the event for other members to read. It just makes sense. PTA people are supposed to be doing more than baking cupcakes (no offense intended!) and marching to the orders of Supt. Skelly.
BTW, I make the best cupcakes in town!
a resident of Barron Park
on May 27, 2013 at 11:21 pm
"Would you even care to entertain the possibility that Dr. Skelly has a pretty tight control on the PTA as seems to be the case with the Board as well?"
@IB - not sure if you are involved in any PTA work, but as someone who has served on and off in PTA officer positions from elementary through high school, I can tell you that it is pretty decentralized, with each school being about as independent as you can imagine. There's actually very little sharing of information, guidance, etc., between sites, much less top-down control or manipulation by any central group or person.
If the PTAC or PAUSD submits something for the eNews, it just goes in, just as with any other relevant items that come along. And the editors and VP Comm's include wherever else they think appropriate (paper newsletter, web site, etc.).
If any special requests were made to downplay, as you suggest, it apparently didn't work, since it was exactly where I'd expect it to be for the Gunn eNews (first and only item under PTAC & PAUSD News) and even more prominent for Nixon (home page of their web site). Hiding in plain sight, I suppose.
a resident of Green Acres
on May 28, 2013 at 6:49 am
Thanks "Another Gunn Parent" for your posting. I appreciate your analysis of the inner workings of the PTA and appreciate your work for our students. It is interesting though that you say first and only. If an item is the only item than by definition it has to be first but conversely it is last as well! Two ways of looking at it!!
I still believe that the PTA should have been out in force at the OCR meeting. I didn't see anyone who openly identified themselves as PTA people which I would normally expect. There weren't any cupcakes at the meeting though (next time I will bake some!). The baked goodies they had were REALLY awesome though. And, the table stated that Peet's Coffee donated the coffee for the event. I am grateful for the eye-opener.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 28, 2013 at 7:33 am
@IB Brockovich Are you a member of your school PTA? If yes, then the PTA was at the meeting. If no, then why do you care? If the PTA is that important to you I would think you you spend the small amount of money it takes to be a member.
Did you survey the room to see if other people present were members of their PTAs? I don't think most people walk into a class and say "I'm a pta person". Really, what is your point except to diminish an organization that does a lot of work for our children? The people who wanted to hear from the OCR showed up to the meeting. The people who didn't need the information, didn't.
a resident of another community
on May 28, 2013 at 7:42 am
@parent - I do not understand. By the same token PAUSD was also officially present in the OCR educational presentation,meeting since the superintendent and a board member were there. As far as I recall PAUSD announced that it will not be related to this event.
a resident of Jordan Middle School
on May 28, 2013 at 10:32 am
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a resident of Barron Park
on May 28, 2013 at 6:55 pm
Not good enough. There needs to be a better reason to support an event than a general cry of: "I would think that anyone who is truly interested in a better outcome for all of our precious students would come out". You need an actual reason for the PTA to support it. It was after all fewer than 100 parents that went, once you elimanate the organizers and hangers-on, out of a district of 11,000 students.
The PTA isn't a political organization. It is staffed by volunteers from all backgrounds, beliefs and politics with no central organization apart from a set of guiding rules. There was even a backlash over the PTA supporting the last library bond...go figure.
If you want to have a go at the PTA, at least make an effort to understand the organization...and provide an actual reason they should support the effort to organize this event.
a resident of Green Acres
on May 29, 2013 at 12:16 am
@confused: The CA State PTA has at the beginning of their mission statement, "The mission of the California State PTA is to positively impact the lives of all children and families" Perhaps the Palo Alto Parent Teacher Assn. has a different mission statement. I could not find it. If you could supply us with that it would be great! I think an actual reason for supporting the event would be that acquisition of the information disseminated at the OCR meeting could positively impact the lives of ALL children and their families.
I don't know where you got your attendance information from but it is dead wrong. Additionally,it doesn't matter much whether it was 92, 104, 119, or 130 (I would say that this was a closer estimate. I have many friends who were working at the event and had to stand.
I am curious, "confused" about the difference between the PTA and the groups that sponsored the OCR meeting. The groups that did sponsor the event were all volunteers as well and come from all backgrounds, beliefs, and politics. What the heck does "no central organization" mean and what would be the set of guiding rules (perhaps marching to the beat of Skelly's drum?).
The actual reason that they should support the event is that they could demonstrate their total caring about the well being of ALL of our students. That is a great reason to most people.
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a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 29, 2013 at 9:04 pm
What possible interest does anyone have about the lack of cupcakes and the awesomeness of the baked goods and the presence of branded coffee at this meeting?
And, since the PTA is a volunteer organization, IB has no right to criticize its presence or absence at that meeting. If there were members there, they bore no responsibility to identify themselves to IB.
I find his/her unfocused nattering unhelpful to the conversation.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 29, 2013 at 11:26 pm
Not to mention, PTA volunteers do thousands of little things for the well being of kids and schools year around. As one wise volunteer once told me, "you get what you pay for" and that means, we all give what we can, but it's within the boundaries of the hours or abilities we can give.
OK to go after PTAC leadership for politically not supporting the OCR event, but I find it ridiculous to insult the many baking handicapped volunteers like myself who are simply helping out where asked or who step up to take a volunteer job nobody else wants.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 29, 2013 at 11:46 pm
@ a volunteer: I did state in my first mention of cupcakes that there was no offense intended. I will repeat that along with an apology to those who may have been offended. I stand by my claim though that I make the some of the best cupcakes in town. When my mom was a member of the PTA I clearly remember that she was always baking cupcakes. Cupcakes seem to be all the rage right now as well. When I see folks plunking down 3 or 4 bucks for a designer cupcake in this town it really causes me to pause and think about what the child who can't even afford a school lunch could purchase with that money. Thank you to all the PTA members who really do lots of good for our kids. Just wondering why attending a meeting about civil rights in school was considered too off the grid for PTA members to attend. Does anyone know what the mission statement is for the PA PTA? I am still curious about this. Confused, are you still out there and could you shed some light on this?
a resident of another community
on May 30, 2013 at 12:06 am
I second IB Brockovich. I got the clear impression that IB had issue with the fact that the OCR educational presentation was not sponsored formally by the parents organization/organizations. It is not about personal choice as to the preferred way of spending a weekday evening, or personal interest of the individuals affiliated with the organization. I am pretty sure that not all the members of organizations sponsoring/organizing this event actually attended. I second IB, thinking it was a statement called for. A statement of support of the whole community.
a resident of Duveneck School
on May 30, 2013 at 12:39 am
I think that IB is pointing out that PTAC has as its primary mission two things: advocacy, especially advocacy for social/emotional health for all children in the district; and parent education. PTAC also advocates for "the understanding of learning differences." Please see the mission and goal statement: Web Link
This is a terrific mission and goal statement. However, the actions to support this mission and goal statement are currently lacking. Despite the fact that PAUSD has been found to be in noncompliance with federal law regarding the bullying of disabled students (which impacts two of the primary PTAC advocacy missions; social emtional health and learning differences) PTAC has been silent. While PASS, SEAN, CAC, and WCDB all publicly expressed concern about these issues, and have advocated strenuously to improve district policies and procedures to ensure that further violations do not occur (and that those that have occurred are properly remediated) PTAC has been silent. PTAC has not advocated on this important topic although it claims to be an advocacy organization and this is squarely within its mission.
Then the opportunity presented itself to help conduct a parent education event for members of the community with OCR officials. PTAC board members were asked repeatedly by members of the PTAC board and by other parent organizations to please help co-sponsor the event. Not for the baked goods. For the symbolic importance of showing that all members of the community are united in our support for the victims and families of discriminatory bullying. PTAC declined several times -- once on a BS technicality about not having enough notice; and then based on who knows what. Not on it's mission. It is not clear why any organization with the mission and goals of this one would decline to participate in a show of unity for the victims of bullying but the fact that PTAC has been silent and rejected that opportunity speaks volumes about its willingness to walk the walk.
This is not about the local PTAs, which are to be independent. PTAC is not hierarchically over the local PTAs but exists to conduct advocacy. Yet in this instance it appears that the object of PTACs advocacy was not parents or children but PTAC board members, who long have used PTAC presidency as the steppingstone or career trajectory for board member. My view is that Sigrid Pinsky is preparing to run for school board in 2014 and simply wanted to keep PTAC out of the controversy so that she could have the endorsements of current board members and the support of Kevin Skelly when she runs for the board. Just an opinion.
PTAC has a great mission statement. Maybe not such a great mission though.
a resident of Midtown
on May 30, 2013 at 6:04 am
Actually Duv Mom is wrong--PTAC hasn't been silent. Sigrid did an interview with Jay Thorwaldson where she defended the district and said things that weren't true such as that the district wanted to do more than OCR had asked it to do (clearly toeing the party line from the lawyer). I guess that could look like "advocacy" on the issue of bullying of disabled students, if you cross your eyes and squint. I myself would like to know why PTAC did not get involved in advocacy and parent ed on this burning issue.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 30, 2013 at 6:59 am
Skelly-Young and the board could not ask for a better outcome: it's the last day of school, message postings are down, and they have got people talking about cupcakes. Transparency and civil rights just don't have the staying power they used to. These are the leaders you deserve.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 30, 2013 at 9:46 am
"Just wondering why attending a meeting about civil rights in school was considered too off the grid for PTA members to attend."
It's not about PTA members.
From your post, you mention your mom was in PTA, and that you appreciate "the PTA members who really do lots of good for our kids," but if you yourself had first hand experience with PTA in your PA school, you would know that you can be a PTA volunteer and not be a PTA "member" and you can be a PTA "member" and never volunteer. Membership is a fee.
There were probably dozens of PTA members, PTA leaders, or PTA volunteers at the OCR event, including among the organizers.
village fool,
Duv mom explains how PTAC is different. Even looking at their website there is no explanation how they get to be on the board, they probably have a rep from each school but those reps in turn do not really represent parents in Palo Alto. It is unfortunate PTAC failed at the most important part of their mission.
That is what happens when "PTA" leaders use these organizations as "steppingstone or career trajectory for board member."
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 30, 2013 at 10:04 am
I agree with three ring circus. I am sorry that I every mentioned the word "cupcake"
To protect and serve ALL children in this district should be of utmost importance to ALL PARENT GROUPS including the historically good guy (or gal or both!) PTA. An attempt to add a bit of levity to a very serious topic (that of civil rights for children unable to advocate for themselves) was turned into a three ring circus by people like "confused".
I voted for Ken Dauber who is a good man. Ken was trashed by the establishment in PA....those who would instead get the leaders they deserve. I think thå†Sigrid is totally off base and would be more of the "wrong stuff" for our Board. I think it would be great †o get a totally new board. One that will advocate for ALL students. One that would protect and defend our students instead of protecting and defending Dr. Skelly for NUMEROUS SERIOUS MISSTEPS! I still am reeling from the spin put on the Letter of Finding against the district. Something to the effect of "It's no big deal....this happens all the time in other districts across our great land. We'll just let Kevin off the hook as he is "embarrassed" by the revelations that we violated the civil rights of a developmentally disabled middle school girl who was punched in the face and ignored by the district (for all essential purposes since she didn't receive any help from the district until the story broke in the press).
Thank you PA Weekly for bringing this to our attention (even if the school board doesn't seem to care). Thanks to Curious for many great postings and thanks to WCDBPA. SEAN, PASS and CAC for presenting us with the facts about civil rights violations.
This is not going away no matter how many postings talk about cupcakes (I won't anymore!). Transparency is in! PLEASE EVERYONE, SEND IN YOUR EVALUATION SURVEY ON DR. KEVIN SKELLY'S PERFORMANCE.
Here's the link: Web Link (it's in the article that we are commenting on as well). Please encourage all your friends, neighbors and community members to send theirs in as well by June 4.
I don't want to deserve the leaders I have through sheer inertia and apathy. Stand up and fight for our kids!
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on May 30, 2013 at 4:48 pm
Wow, now you're really going after PAPTA because they didn't do what you wanted? This is becoming a joke. People and organizations don't have to "give" because you ask. The onus is on you to make the case for support not on them.
You obviously haven't made your case if the above posts are all you have: "I want to give a book to every child in Palo Alto. The PTA should support me because their mission statement says..." ain't cutting it.
First it was "don't give to PiE until they ask for Skelly resignation" and now this? What is with you supporters and every other group in the district?
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 30, 2013 at 9:45 pm
learn to thrive,
yes, but
there is a lot more that "aint cutting it"
If PTAC is a more of a career move, than a legit advocacy group, they serve themselves more than the students.
Making a case to who? PTAC board embers appointed by the Super or by their book club? I don't think so.
I would say that it's up to people to step up and change PTAC - for starters, does the PTAC Pres get appointed by the Superintendent or not?
There should be a clause - you cannot run for BOE if you take the PTAC press job. I wonder how many takers there would be for that. Once that's clear, maybe some real advocates could get to work. Or PTAC presidents should be elected officials. Palo Alto could use that.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 30, 2013 at 10:06 pm
IB and volunteer,
I hope to see you both step up next year to be on the PTAC board. Your leadership would be refreshing. Can you guarantee that you will do this? Are you willing to serve or do you just want to complain? Please name the PTAC board members who have gone on to other elected positions? Is it just possible that they are willing to serve in positions that most people wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole? Of course, to be elected to the PTAC board you must be a PTA member. Are you? It doesn't seem so since you don't seem to know how the board is elected, not appointed.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 30, 2013 at 10:52 pm
the survey says 2012....so is it last year's? What the heck is going on??
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 30, 2013 at 11:44 pm
how do I get to be elected president of PTAC?
Who votes? when? Do I just call somebody and get on the board?
Do I need to be on the board to understand how it works?
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 31, 2013 at 7:51 pm
@parent: in all due respect to PTA members, I prefer to use my time, financial energy, and other resources in the service of love. I love the kids and feel the most effective way to serve them is to be a student advocate. Being a parent educator is of utmost importance to me. Children learn what they live. The values system in this district (even more so among the upper crust PA"establishment")leaves much to be desired. The kids are bullies and competitive because that is what they see modeled at home. This is very unfortunate.
I don't feel that I would be effective in creating the kind of environment that I think our kids need in terms of social and emotional simply by taking up a chair in the PTA. I leave that to the people who feel that their skills can best be utilized as a PTA member. That its just so not me but thanks for inviting me to take on the presidency of this historical organization. I must respectfully decline to run for office or even be a member. I want to join forces with groups such as WCDBPA, CAC, SEAN, PASS and a half dozen other groups out there who I see really doing something besides propping up a dying administration at Churchill.
a resident of Barron Park
on May 31, 2013 at 9:43 pm
@Ms. Brockovich,
You remind me of a teenager who tries to trash a girl's reputation because she turned you down. Then try to justify your actions because she wears short skirts.
It's ironic that a supporter of the OCR evening doesn't know that "no means NO"! SHE doesn't have to explain why.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 31, 2013 at 9:55 pm
Well, IB and volunteer, there is the problem You feel free to criticize the PTAs and the council, yet through your postings you indicate you have no idea how they work. @ volunteer, if you were already a member of your PTA and active, you would know how you get on the board. If you read your school enews you would see the solicitations for people who are willing to run for office. If you went to your PTA meetings at your school, you would certainly hear the appeals for people to run for office. If you were an active volunteer, you be getting phone calls, asking you to consider running for office. It really isn't difficult, however, it does mean volunteering your time in a meaningful way. The council is always begging for people to step up to take on the various roles. It is similar to many of the PTAs. Over the last few years, some of the PTAs have been close to having to disband because they don't have the minimal of 15 members including a President, Treasurer, and Secretary. If a school doesn't have a PTA, or a PTO, it doesn't have a non-profit status and can't raise funds. Most of the PTAs in this district raise funds to provide the "extras" for our kids including noon programs, assemblies, supplies, etc. Before anyone raises the issue that the schools must provide supplies, just think what the minimum is: paper and pencils. It doesn't mean a school must provide colored paper, colored pens, crayons, glue, clay, paint, etc. PTAs also work to support the staff by providing volunteers in the classroom. Of course, you don't have to be a PTA member to volunteer.
IB, it's great to be a student advocate. What does that mean? Are you actively working in any capacity at a school as an advocate or are you just posting on these forums. Huge difference. Do you know what social and emotional learning involves? You say you want to join other groups such as WCDBPA, CAC, SEAN (by the way it's a student group) and a half dozen other groups (what are they). Have you joined? Are you actively working to make a difference or are you just complaining?
It's so easy to post opinions, it's takes a lot more to actually make a difference. I'm hoping you will actually make the difference you want to see instead of just talking about it.
a resident of Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on May 31, 2013 at 11:57 pm
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@parent: I have a friend named Barbara who has tirelessly tried to help provide information and help for kids with alcohol and other drug problems. She is a kind of advocate who is not connected with any group. She just does it from a true to desire to help kids. Does that kind of work (even though I don't think she is in the PTA) count for anything? In fact, I saw her on TV speaking at the open forum at the last school board meeting. Would you say that one can have as much value doing that kind of work as the PTA parent? If you go to the board meetings or watch them on TV you would realize that many Other parents get up and speak about a host of different things that could potentially have a huge positive impact on our students but for some reason those suggestions often fall on deaf ears. I think the best illustration of this phenomenon revolves around the failure of site-based decisions on counseling to provide good support for Gunn students. I call people like those in WCDBPA student advocates and I doubt whether many of them happen to also be PTA members. I don't think that the fact that he/she is clueless about the internal working of the PTA should be held against Brockovich. Perhaps Brockovich has other interests. I think that Brockovich is on to something when he/she mentions values. Core values of the parent community are very important to me as well. I think those who assist the bullied students are student advocates. I applaud all of them for doing that good work. Perhaps you think that they could be more effective as PTA members? Please explain what they could be doing through the PTA that would be better than getting help for children who have to endure the mine field as a bullie's victim every day? I think that those parents who would stand with the child and help them get justice for wrongs done are truly worthy of the title "student advocate". I aspire to be more like these people who are brave enough to get up and speak out on the wrongs perpetrated on our kids. So, that is my opinion and if you think that PTA work is more important then so be it. Different strokes for different folks and so on and so forth and scooby dooby doo!
Perhaps Mr. or Ms. IB is part of one of those groups but declines to state because of the negative backlash certain groups like WCDBPA have gotten. I was astounded at the viciousness of the attacks levied at their founder during the elections. Who would want to publicly come out as belonging to a group such as WCDBPA if they were aware that people have attacked a good man like Ken Dauber for no reason? Certainly not I.
a resident of Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on Jun 2, 2013 at 9:10 pm
Spectator at Large is a registered user.
Recently it has come to my attention that many people in Palo Alto are quite dissatisfied with the level of services that the district's higher ups are delivering. They are most dissatisfied with Dr. Skelly especially after it came to light that he was lying by omission by failing to inform the BOE of the Letter of Finding issued by the Office For Civil Rights in early 2012. Dr Skelly's recent performances do not warrant the hefty salary (278K) plus additional perks (brings total copensation to over 300K).
When talking with friends and neighbors and the friends I meet up with in my daily travels about Dr. Skelly I am made aware that I am not the only tax payer in Palo Alto who is upset about the failure of the school board to call for a full investigation about how this happened. I think it is time for the school Board to implement the plan called for by WCDBPA namely full transparency. We cannot continue to pay for F, F, and F (legal counseling firm) to try and make good an impossibly bad situation.
We, the tax payers of Palo Alto (and also Kevin Skelly's bosses) must use the only recourse that is currently available to us. That recourse is FILLING IN YOUR SURVEY BEFORE MIDNIGHT ON TUESDAY!
To paraphrase the Bible, "Faith Without Works Is Dead"
Please take the time to click on this link right now and get to work!:
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I'm glad that kid pitcher had the guts to call him out on it.....unwritten rule.....but still

He just has that way of pissing everybody off. Always has always will

Haven't had time to watch the Yanks lately, can someone chime me in on what happened here?
Basically it's thumbing your nose at the pitcher............can be concieved as confrontational in the pitchers eyes. Don't see it to much but we are talking about Arod here. He pulled the yelling @ the 3rd base man fielding a popupfor Toronto? a while back. I'm Yankees Fan but I just can't put him in the same sentence as Jeter , Bernie , Tino ,O'Neil etc.

[/quote]i'm pretty sure what ARod did in TO was the start of all the "beaning" ,and the 2 bench clearing brawls, thats been going on the last few years between the Yanks and Jays[/quote]

As they said, he is junior high school maturity, and he should take a look at Jeter... but, if he did we would all know he was just acting, and not sincere.


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The Evil Genius DJ Green Lantern, host of his own radio show in GTA IV on The Beat 102.7, is going to be releasing a new album along with Rockstar titled "Liberty City Invasion: Music from and Inspired by Grand Theft Auto IV".
The album will feature eight tracks from in-game and eight brand new songs "inspired" by the game. Featured artists will include "Busta Rhymes, Wyclef, Fat Joe, Styles P and Fabolous as well as up-and-coming artists Mavado, Uncle Murder and Future Green Entertainment's own Johnny Polygon, Qadir and more."
Some of the tracks are already listed on Amazon, but there should be eight more coming to digital retailers May 20. An in-store release date is currently unknown.
In related news, a full 16-track album featuring songs from and inspired by Vladivostok FM also seems to be available for download at Amazon.
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What are they All time?
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too numerous to mention. Many highs and many lows....
part of being a fan.
For a long time the Pack were doormats.....you know the feeling
"Measure Twice......Cut Once"
You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch
Best wins were the 2007 and 2011 playoffs. Just amazing.
Worst losses for me were the 2008 divisional round against the Eagles.
Miracle in the Meadowlands II..oh what do you know..AGAINST THE EAGLES
Getting swept by the Skins was embarrassing.
First Eagles game this year was sickening and so was the second Redskins game.
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Mood: WOOF!
Both in 2006.
Best win: Philly, week 2, 2006
Worst loss: Titans, week 12, 2006
Best, superbowl 42, worst, superbowl 35 and san fran playoff game in 2002. Trey Junkin.
Spin that Webb young Davis
Best ever for me was Jan 27 1991 - Wide Right - sensational
Worst ever was Jan 5 2003 - SF 39 NY 38 - just horrible.
2nd best ever for me was Feb 3 2008 in Glendale ...because i was there and i will never forget it
2nd worst ever was Dec 27 1997 - Wild card . Vikes 23 NY 22 ( when they scored 10 points in the last 90 secs including an onside kick recovery )
Non Omnis Moriar
If no SB's, worst loss was the playoff game against San Francisco. Best win might have been the comback against the Broncos with Kent Graham or last year clinching the division. I was at the Bucs game and they showed the score and said the Giants had lost. I get in the car and here the game wasn't over and listen to an amazing comeback. The playoff win against the Bucs in 08 was cool because I was there.
It's tough, I almost have to give the nod to the game last year December 9th against the Cowboys. It was the same night I graduated college, we watched the first half and realized the Giants weren't doing so hot, but go to a bar and continue to watch. I then get to see a fellow USF alum in JPP block the kick to seal the win. It was amazing.


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Tdh has some of the most talented artists i've ever seen. I posted my work here in the hopes that you guys would bring them to life. I have no doubt you will more than do it justice. Don't forget to post a WIP.
Tdh has some of the most talented artists i've ever seen. I posted my work here in the hopes that you guys would bring them to life. I have no doubt you will more than do it justice. Don't forget to post a WIP.
I'm really interested in doing the heavy mando if you have more pics? I have no idea when I'll get to him as I'm working on a few things right now but I'd like to make him a reality.
No worries on the WIP I'll be sure to take a load of progress pics and post one up when I get around to it. Like I said. It'll be a couple of months before start up but this one is marked down on the calendar.
Hey Sinister, you doing the full heavy Mando or just the lid?
Only planning to do the lid Skupilkinson. I read you were intending to do the whole suit, that's not a problem as far as I'm concerned. My Heavy Mando lid is going to be part of my Assassin style Mando. Whenever I get around to building that!!
I know what you mean. Check my status, I really could do with more hours in the days!!
End of hijack.
Very cool designs I wouldnt mind making one of those just to do it like the sith myself very cool also love your avatar
Great concept art! And I agree, that Sith one rocks
love the sith one for sure, great concept designs
Heavy, Jedi & SITH!!!!!! they are awesome!!!!!!
Great ideas & artwork!!!
Great work, but just so you know, I am stealing this idea!! Maybe just a few color changes to suit my taste, very cool.
WOW . . . I love the attention to small details, the battle droid head/face is a great touch, I'm intending my current WIP custom to be a bit of a souvenir collector, is it cool if I 'borrow' that idea ? :thumbup.
I still wanna see that sith one done, that looks like 110% win
Dear azheat01,... THIEF! Seriously, go for it and post us some pics when you're done.
I've always thought that the Jedi could have just as easily been the sith with a few modifications ( color etc.). So anyway, make it your own, improve it however you want.
After it was all over, he was put back together with parts that were laying around. Super battle droid arm and leg, Droideka laser, and battle droid belt buckle.
Love your work, its amazing dude! I cant even draw a circle in photoshop! My custom mando is supposed to be a Jedi or some sort. But after seeing the sith mando, I am definetaly going sith! Would u ever offer to draw up peoples customs on photoshop? If you do I call being first in line!
You have the nod of satisfaction of this Sith!!!!
Thats just fine. Skip does some great work with pepakura so his customs look nice. I will be looking forward to that PM . And your welcome, great works deserve to know that it is great work.
You remembered me?? LOL! Looking forward to seeing them too bro!
OK, depressed now, there are some far too talented people around here! Serioulsy, I'm just jealous, if may talent was a percentage of what I've seen around here I'd be happy. oneone, keep up the good work fella!
I showed these pics to some friends & they all LOVE them. Keep up the good work.
Really cool!
Those look great, I have only 1 piece of advice. In the Jedi concept, how about turning the lightsabers around to be like guard shotos, and then give him a double bladed sword on his belt, maby even one that comes apart!!!!! I'm just thinking, what you have now would be great for a quick in'n'out, but not for dueling. However, a mando woth 4 lightsabers. that would be more dangerous than General Grievous.
Any way I bow to your most stellar and unattainable artistic talent. :P


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