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Just thought I'd share my story. I know it's not uncommon, but is rare to catch. Now, all the pro queen breeders may see it all the time, but I just got lucky. I was looking through a hive yesterday that I had gained through a removal about two weeks ago. I guess I injured the queen, and so they raised more. I was unaware of this until yesterday. So I open the hive, and a start finding all these hatched queen cells. This upset me, as I had just finished build a queen castle on the night before, and my goal was that I wanted to check the bees the day before as well, but didn't get around to it.
Anyway, as I'm looking through, I spot one queen cell not hatched, but also not yet destroyed. So I'm starring at it, when I spot out of the corner of my eye, TWO queens running up the frame, but not fighting each other (yet). I frantically grab a queen cage that luckily was sitting there from the cutout, and caught one. But then when I ran to get another queen cage, I lost track of the other loose queen.
I grabbed the queen castle and ran back to the bee yard. I place the caged queen in one chamber with what I believe was queen free frame of bees. Then I placed the frame with the capped cell in another chamber. I checked the frame a half dozen times for the other loose queen but could not find her again. The last frame I left in the original box. If all goes well, I may end up with three nucs from one. If all goes poorly, then I suppose I'll end up with only one, which is what I started with. I suppose if things really fail I could lose the whole batch, but since they were feral to begin with, and I got paid for the removal, then the heartbreak would not be too bad.
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I have heard mention of a swarm trap. What is it, were can i buy one, can i get pland or directions to make one Thanks Dan
I have heard mention of a swarm trap. What is it, were can i buy one, can i get pland or directions to make one Thanks Dan
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I always made my swarm catching boxes=mostly depends on where there at you night make a funnel out of screen with small funnel like shape.
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Hi Dan,
I use 5 frame nucs for swarm traps. I keep them close to my hives. There is one tree in my back yard that the smarms always seam go to. I keep one in that tree all spring and well into the summer.
From what I've seen swarms go out from the hive entrance and follow the "standard" flight path from the hive. What tree, fince post, or whatever they come to first is where they collect. I had one hive on the side of a clover fild. the swarm didn't stop untill they got to the other side (about 100 yrds).
I've never had luck putting one out in the woods. swarms only go so far. If you don't know where a hive is you most likly won't catch any.
You can buy one from Dadant. I've never had luck with the pheromones. The trap is like $15 or $16 the pheromones are 3 for $5. some thing like that.
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I have had luck with phermones in those fiber pots, But....catching swarm in anything that doesn't have standard frames is a mess. A swarm will build a lot of comb in a week, and then you have the job of transfering it all to frames. Old combs in a nuc is the best. And you can throw in some pheremones or squished queens if you want.
I too had luck with the phermones and fiber pot. I got my trap from www.MannLakeLtd.com. I had a swarm sitting a tree that was out of reach, so I put the trap as close as I could. The next couple of days the bees setup shop in the trap. Easy to move into the new hive, since there wasn't much comb that was built yet.
spring 02 was my first season, my hives (2) set in a small clearing, facing the south. The clearing is very small. It sounds as if a trap is a good idea, which direction and how far should I locate the trap? and how high should it be placed.
I have an old 5 frame nuc placed about 50 feet South of my South facing bee yard. I caught 3 swarms last spring that came from my hives.
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Monterey is a fabulous area which hugs the rugged coast line of the pacific ocean. Dave and I had a huge day and started off at the Monterey Aquarium. The Aquarium is huge and is one of the top 5 aquariums in the world which we could tell as soon as we stepped inside the building. We saw everything from jellyfish, plankton and sharks right through to sea otters 2 of the biggest fish I have ever seen. There was a 2 tonne, 10 foot long tuna (who knew tuna grew that big??) and a sunfish which was the goofiest looking 2 tonne piece of blubber I have ever seen. I hope I haven't hurt the sunfishes' feelings but it really was a strange looking creature.
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Experiments with trained barn owls reveal how their acute sense of hearing enables them to catch prey in the dark
Masakazu Konishi
Small rodents make noises by moving. How does the barn owl catch a moving prey in the dark? What happens if, after the owl takes off, the prey moves or stops making sound? When I simulated these conditions electronically, I found that all three owls made larger errors when the signal stopped upon take-off than when it continued until landing (Figure 8). For example, when the signal continued until landing, one owl hit 46 times out of 58 trials within the area covered by the four 10 centimeter x 10 centimeter plates surrounding the target, while the same bird missed that area 69 times out of 86 trials in the absence of a post-take-off signal. Making the signal louder did not help the owl locate the target better without post-take-off signals.
The above results suggest that the owl can make mid-flight course corrections, like the moon shots, in order to strike the target accurately. Small rodents make noises intermittently, and the owl must be able to adjust to this condition. In another series of tests, I let the signal stop upon take-off and reappear after the owl had flown for varying periods. When the signal reappeared after the owl had flown for 0.5 second out of the total flight time of 1.2 seconds, the owl still struck the target as accurately as when the signal continued until landing.
The accuracy of location was not affected until about 80 percent of the total flight time was devoid of signal. When the owl had to fly for a period of 1 second without signal, it located the target as poorly as when the signal stopped completely upon take-off. Another factor that affects mid-flight corrections is the timing of post-take-off signals. When the owl could hear a faint and brief (50 milliseconds) noise burst three times (0.3, 0.6, and 0.9 second after take-off), it could locate the target as accurately as with a continuous noise.
The most crucial test of the owl's ability to make mid-flight corrections involves the use of two loudspeakers: the signal shifts from one speaker to the other during flight. Figure 9 shows an owl changing its flight direction as the signal shifted from one speaker to another. Notice the direction of the owl's face. It turns its face toward the new target position before orienting its body.
In Figure 9 infrared flashes were delivered at constant intervals of 250 milliseconds. Notice that the second and third exposures are closer together than the others; this is because the owl reduces its flight speed as soon as it hears a shift in the target position. When the owl has to make a large course correction, it comes to a sudden halt in midair and hovers before advancing toward the new target position. Because of this deceleration and the longer flight path required, the owls took a significantly longer time to reach a speaker when it was used as a second target than as a single source.
To hear faint and brief noises in flight and correct the flight course must be a difficult feat. One would wonder how the owl manages to do this when its own wing noises might mask the signal. Owls are known to fly much more quietly than other birds. Their body feathers are soft, and the leading edge of their wings has a fine comb, which is supposed to suppress the wing noises (Graham 1934). A recent study, however, reports that the removal of the comb had no effect on the wing noises of the tawny owl (Neuhaus, Bratting, and Schweizer 1972).
When I recorded and analyzed the wing noises of one of the barn owls during location tests (Figure 10), I found that the flight noises are not only faint but also lack high-frequency components. Most of their energy is concentrated below 1 kilohertz; above 3 kilohertz there is too little energy to record even with a very sensitive set of equipment. Similar results were reported for other species of owls (Gruschka, Borchers, and Coble 1971; Neuhaus, Bratting, and Schweizer 1972).
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Hi, I have just discovered TED on NetFlix. I was looking forward to finding those 10 recipes you discussed, so I could learn to cook more naturally for my children. I grew up on "fish sticks and tater tots" all frozen and baked, when my mother worked 3 jobs at a time to support us kids and I now find myself in the same situation. I am sure my kids could not identify even half of the vegetables you showed on there, and I would love to learn how to cook real food. My problem is budget. I am a single mom, working full time just barely scraping by to pay the bills and needing to feed my children. I have very little time, and I'm so tired by the end of the day. I only know how to make salad naturally. The rest comes from frozen meals and high-carb foods because they are more filling at a lower cost. If I could learn those 10 recipes you mentioned on your show, making them easy and most of all AFFORDABLE, what would they be? Thanks you. It would really mean A LOT.
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Re: 10 recipes, Jamie?
Here is my suggestion on what can be a healthier option: http://thecornishfishmonger.co.uk/fish-for-kids ..... boneless and skinless Cornish fresh fish that is rich in Omega3 and with good value for money. Use it to make healthy quick meals, e.g. prawn stir fry, fish pie, salmon burger, fish risotto etc. See recipes for children on FITD site. http://www.fishisthedish.co.uk/category … r-children Or search for seafood recipes on The Cornish Fishmonger Site http://thecornishfishmonger.co.uk/seafood-recipes
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Re: 10 recipes, Jamie?
Hi FishMonger - thank you for your input into the forums over the last week or so.
I am going to refer you to this thread regarding spam in the forums; please consider it a warning to keep external links to a minimum. http://www.jamieoliver.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=33147
As I stated recently (http://www.jamieoliver.com/forum/viewto … 56#p691656), I don't have a problem with users referring to their personal blogs or websites, as long as they are contributing to discussion and not going overboard with it.
We have a lot to deal with as far as spam goes, so if the community feel that you're clogging things up then it may induce a ban.
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Wow Merlin, editing in the spirit of Bob here!!!!
Netgirl, not sure what recipes you are specifically referring to, but Jamie has posted loads of recipes on here, those from 15 min meals are especially developed with experts to make sure they are healthy, quick and fairly cheap.
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Wow Merlin, editing in the spirit of Bob here!!!!
Who's Bob ??
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Bob was the Site Admin before Danny.
Only a fool argues with a skunk, a mule or a cook. { cowboy saying}
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Thanks Ashen...
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@Merlin I knew I liked it when I saw the title "administrator"
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I am looking for some suggestions for 3 or 4 man tents for Philmont Scouts.
Doug Prosser's crew back in 2006 used MH Kiva tents, which, weight wise, works out nicely. I was fortunate enough to locate a used Black Diamond Megamid with floor and pole used for $100. As our troop is sending 4 scouts as part of a 3 contingent group, this is a great deal. Tent-42 oz, Floor-30 oz, Pole-13 oz.
In 3 weeks, I will be doing a presentation to the whole contingent (30+ scouts and adults) on Philmont Lighweight Backpacking, based on much of Doug Prosser's philosophy and experiences. I am looking for some ideas of other tents I can offer to these scouts and their parents. In a week or so, I hope to take many of your suggestions and post in the Gear Swap section looking for some reasonable bargins.
Thanks in advance for your ideas and suggestions.Oct 25, 2011 at 10:40 am #1794822
Our troop picked up a Golite Shangri-la 4+ on one of their 40% off sales and I made a silnylon floor for it. I was in a Philmont crew that used it for 5 not small scouts in 2010 … a bit snug but it worked well and they enjoyed it. We also used it for 4 scouts the past weekend on a 3 day Superior Hiking Trail trip.
We also picked up a mesh inner on the Gear Swap forum so it'll work for our insect season.
It's been a great addition to the troop's gear.Oct 26, 2011 at 7:57 am #1795167
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Thanks, Jim, I had overlooked that one. So to sum up, looking at multi-man pyramid tents in the 5 lbs or less range, thus far I have 3 options:
Black Diamond Megamid
Mountain Hardware Kiva
Golite Shangri-la 4+
Are there any other lightweight pyramid or non-pyramid tents we could be looking at? Specifically, we are looking at a price effective tent, so ultimately used tents will be considered, so even those no longer manufactured would be on the table.Oct 26, 2011 at 8:18 am #1795172
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To toot my horn.
I make large mids from 8×8 to fit the small tent sites at Philmont up to 11×11 to
fit a half dozen scouts. Scouts get a discount too. Give me a call if I can help.
I have some lightly used ones in a couple of sizes as well as cheaper 70d fabric
mids.Nov 9, 2011 at 10:48 am #1800084
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We took an MLD Speedmid and a Black Diamond Betamid to Philmont. Note that you will not be strictly compling with the Philmont rules that require "fully enclosed tents."
My writeup and photos are here:
http://wunderwood.org/most_casual_observer/2010/07/pyramid_tents_at_philmont.htmlNov 10, 2011 at 5:43 am #1800368
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Almost any high quality lightwt tent will work. 1-2 lb per kid is reasonable.
I wouldnt be too hung up on cost. Buy them used high quality gear, use them (take care of them) and resell for same price paid when done and the cost is basically just some shipping fees. Cant go wrong.
However, if they buy new gear, they will eat some cost on resale, and cheap gear with no resale is basically a total loss.Jan 4, 2012 at 6:15 am #1819536
John MyersBPL Member
@dallasLocale: North Texas
We're headed back to Philmont in June with a new batch of boys. Several of them need lighter tent options.
Obviously your ranger allowed the floorless shelters even though they do not officially comply with their 'enclosed tent' requirements.
Can we expect the same consideration, or does it depend on the ranger?
JohnJan 4, 2012 at 7:13 am #1819561
Sarah KuhnBPL Member
@sckuhnLocale: Mountainous Ohio
It will totally depend on your ranger…. and the confidence demonstrated by your crew. Adults get to slide under the radar much more than the youth do…
None of the current Philmont documentation references 'enclosed' or 'floored' tents, simply states, from the 2011 Guidebook (the most current publication as the 2012 won't be out until March)-
"A 5'6"x 7'6" nylon or plastic ground cloth MUST be used under your tent. Tent mates can share the ground cloth. It is REQUIRED that everyone sleep in a tent. The use of tents provides protection from weather and also is part of Philmont's Bear and Wildlife safety practice."
I added the emphasis on the ground cloth MUST be used and REQUIRED that everyone sleep in a tent. So….. what's the definition of a tent????Jan 9, 2012 at 2:58 pm #1822298
Walter UnderwoodBPL Member
@wunderLocale: San Francisco Bay Area
Also in the 2011 Guidebook (page 32) under Hantavirus: "Do not sleep on the bare ground. Use tents with floors or good ground
This is great, and is a change in the Guidebook. The 2011 edition said, "If possible, do not sleep on the bare ground. Use tents with floors."Jan 9, 2012 at 5:21 pm #1822345
Luke SchmidtSpectator
@cameronLocale: Idaho Falls
Never been to Philemont but heres an idea if you're in doubt. Buy the inner tents from someplace with a good return policy and keep them in the packaging. If the ranger lets you get away with floorless shelters great, return the inner tent when you get home. If not you're covered and you won't be stuff borrowing something really heavy. Another idea if you have someone who can sew among the troops parents would be to just sew the ground cloth on with a bit of bug net in between.Apr 9, 2012 at 6:41 pm #1865532
We're considering Tarptent Double Rainbow tents for the crew.
What do you do when you have an odd number of boys? Can they take a one person tent?
How about the adults, can each take one person tents for themselves?Apr 9, 2012 at 8:00 pm #1865559
Bruce TolleyBPL Member
@btolleyLocale: San Francisco Bay Area
To follow Youth Protection and PSR guidelines, no Scout is supposed to be in a tent by himself.
So your odd Scout can be in a tent with two other Scouts. You could probably fit 4 or 5 scouts into a BlackDiamond Megamid. If a parent is one of the adult advisors, the Scout can sleep in the tent with his parent.
It is OK for parents to sleep in solo tent. In our trek we had two parents solo, each in a SMD 1 person single walled tent.
I did not see any Philmont Scout crews using floor less shelters but I did see one or two work crews using pyramid tarps.
I do not recommend asking for clarification of the "enclosed tent" policy before you go because the answer is likely to be use only double walled tents with floors and extra footprints.
I also think with proper camp site selection, if using a shelter with a floor, you could leave the footprint back at base camp.Apr 10, 2012 at 5:38 am #1865643
The Tarptent Rainbow is a fully enclosed tent with a floor.
I'm not aware of a rule in the Guide to Safe Scouting which prohibits Scouts sleeping in a tent by themselves. We routinely have Scouts sleeping in one man tents while backpacking. As long as everyone is camped near each other I consider the Buddy System in effect. I don't know if Philmont has a rule against it, if they do could you please give me a reference?Apr 10, 2012 at 10:38 am #1865740
Sarah KuhnBPL Member
@sckuhnLocale: Mountainous Ohio
Philmont is more lenient on adults sleeping alone, not so much on youth…
Not to be overlooked is the footprint/space issue – some sites a Philmont are quite small – fitting 12 people in 2 man tents is a challenge, let alone fitting in multiple 1 men tents.
In 2010 I used a TT Rainbow, as a female on an all male crew it was perfect!! This summer my daughter and I will use a SMD Lunar Duo and my husband will probably use the TT Rainbow or the Double Rainbow if he and my son tent together.
Below is a direct/unedited copy and paste from the '2011 Guidebook to Adventure'
Tents must be carried and used while at Philmont. Sudden downpours and gusty winds require appropriate shelter. Every member of your crew should know how to pitch, strike and fold a backpacking tent. Philmont issues the BSA Philmont Backpacker tent. (Footprint 5'6" x 7' .6", approximate weight 5.6 lbs.) If you bring your own tent it must be a 2-person tent and free of all food smells. Philmont will allow a single person tent in the event of an odd numbered crew. (No bivey sacks.)
Space for tents in most campsites is limited. Use of two-person tents minimizes the footprint and avoids encroaching on the "Bearmuda" Triangle (page 27). Two one-person tents take up nearly twice as much space as one 2-person tent.
A 5'6"x 7'6" nylon or plastic ground cloth must be used under your tent. Tent mates can share the ground cloth. It is required that everyone sleep in a tent. The use of tents provides protection from weather and also is part of Philmont's Bear and Wildlife safety practice. No food or smellables should ever be allowed inside a tent."Apr 10, 2012 at 10:56 am #1865743
Our crew will consist of 5 youth and two adults. The plan is to use two TT Double Rainbow (two man) and one TT Rainbow (one man) for the scouts and the adults will each bring their own one person tent. Is this a problem?Apr 10, 2012 at 11:22 am #1865758
John MyersBPL Member
@dallasLocale: North Texas
Donald, that should not be a problem. They do allow a single scout in a tent in the case of odd numbered crews.Apr 12, 2012 at 7:42 am #1866489
ed dzierzakBPL Member
@dzierzakLocale: SE
The 2012 Guidebook says essentially the same thing as Sarah posted. Minor wording changes.Apr 12, 2012 at 10:03 am #1866530
Bruce TolleyBPL Member
@btolleyLocale: San Francisco Bay Area
There are rules, there are principles, there is risk, and there is liability.
My recollection is that there was a rule in the advisors guide.
Even if Philmont has no specific rule disallowing the placement of scouts in solo tents, there is a principle of setting up outings to prevent the risk of 1 on 1 contact.
If you as trek leader have a scout in a solo tent, and there is 1 on 1 contact, I doubt you can make a case that the scout in the tent 5 feet away was acting as a buddy.
It is not a risk I would assume for a 12 night outing.Apr 12, 2012 at 1:53 pm #1866594
Here's an opinion … but it's based on 25 years of scouting.
Talk of scouts in solo tents is likely an exercise in applying adult sensibilities on youth. Does not work well.
A friend and longtime scouter speaks of the "goofy factor" … the larger the group (up to a point) the higher the youth enjoyment. Unless he is an introvert and a loner, the solo tenting scout will likely feel unfairly left out of the fun.
Similar with a scout tenting with a parent.
IIRC, the OP was leaning towards TarpTent Double Rainbows. Henry's RainShadow 2 works well for 3 scouts unless they are adult sized scouts. Our troop has used them for two adults on two Philmont trips and numerous other backpacking and canoe camping trips.
My last trip to Philmont we crammed 5 scouts into a golite SL-4+ … tight but they loved it.Apr 12, 2012 at 3:27 pm #1866624
I like Shire's tents, I bought one of his first Rainbows and have hiked a thousand miles with it.
On this trip I'll bring my Six Moon Designs Lunar Solo. I spent 5 months in it last year during my AT thru-hike.
I looked at the Rainshadow 2 but was trying to avoid a tent that needs hiking poles to pitch since none of the boys use them. If the boys will commit to using hiking poles the Rainshadow 2 would be an excellent choice.
Add a Squall 2 and you have accommodations for 5 youth and no one sleeps alone.Apr 12, 2012 at 7:13 pm #1866688
I looked at the Rainshadow 2 but was trying to avoid a tent that needs hiking poles to pitch
I use our RainShadow 2 all the time canoe camping … trekking pole stay home.
But I don't use the lightest pole option (which is what Henry sells) because they bow more easily that I like. The next larger size diameter pole stock is very stiff at the cost of about 2-3 ounces weight.
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Hi y'all. Give me some feedback on my 3 season gear list.
-Feathered Friends Swallow 20 sleeping bag
-Kelty Eden 2 (Heavy at 5 pounds, but inexpensive. I can't use a tarp on this particular trip, because there may be snow and rain)
-Thermarest NeoAir All Season (Not yet purchased)
-Teton Sports Scout 3400 (This pack is definitely heavy at 4.5 pounds. It only cost me 60 dollars, though.)
-3 Stuff sacks in different sizes (Not yet purchased)
-Katadyn Hiker Water Filter
-Aquafina 1 liter bottle
-Cheapo brand 2 liter water bladder
-Cut down tooth brush
-Biodegradable TP
-Dr Bronners soap
– Non scented deodorant in a chapstick tube
-DIY First Aid Kit
-Kershaw Skyline FB
-Princeton Tec Remix Headlamp
-50 Ft paracord
-Duct Tape
-Bic Lighter
-No brand Chinese canister stove
-Isobutane fuel canister
-GSI Halulite Minimalist Cookset
-Sea to Summit X Mug (I dumped the Minimalist lid and I just use the X Mug as a lid)
-Squishy Bowl (Not yet purchased)
If I were to replace anything, it would be my tent and backpack. They're just so heavy. When I was buying my gear, I was pretty naive with weight. I realize now how bad much more enjoyable backpacking is with less weight. If anyone has any suggestions on things I should replace, get rid of, or add, please let me know. Thanks.Feb 20, 2013 at 9:03 am #1956373Feb 20, 2013 at 9:24 am #1956381
Travis LeannaBPL Member
@t-lLocale: Wisconsin
I happen to know what kind of trip this will be for based off the other thread, but yes, Anna is right with her link… always give ALL the specifics!
Tent: you CAN use a tarp, but you have to know how to use it correctly. I use a tarp in winter all the time. And to be quite honest, most shelters will work in winter as long as you're not expecting a heavy storm. That being said, there are benefits to tents and there are instances where tarps might not be appropriate. If you've never used a tarp before, maybe the Porkies trip isn't a good one to experiment with.
Sleeping pad: If you think you'll end up doing more winter camping, go for the Neoair XTherm. It has a bit more R-Value.
Water: Ditch the Katadyn filter in place of something MUCH lighter. The Sawyer Squeeze comes to mind, or a Steripen. Be VERY careful in cold weather with filters. You do not want them to freeze as this may ruin the filter element. I use a Steripen in winter.
Ditch the deodorant.
You could ditch the soap, or bring hand sanitizer instead. Easier, and you don't have to waste water washing your hands.
Not sure you need two fire starting elements. A mini Bic is reliable, light, and easy.
Cookset: If you're only doing freezer bag style cooking (boiling water) you only need a stove and an appropriately sized pot/mug. For example, for 3-season use, I use a Snow Peak 600 as my pot and mug with an alcohol stove. I have a MYOG silicone lid that doubles as a pot grabber as the handles on the mug can get hot. In winter, I add a GSI teakettle because it has more bottom surface area that works better on my winter canister stove. You don't need a bowl necessarily. It depends on your style of cooking, but you can get away with MUCH less than what is on your list.
Are you hiking naked?
A compass may not be needed on some well groomed trails, but its 3/4 ounce that I always take.Feb 21, 2013 at 5:05 am #1956766
Thanks for the feedback, both of you. Anna, I'll be in a group, our weather will be between 35 and 60 in the day and 20 to 30 at night. We'll be in upper Michigan at the beginning of April. Travis, I know the Katadyn Hiker is heavy, but we're going to be sharing that and an MSR SweetWater between 5 people. I'll definitely look into a Steripen or just iodine tablets for solo hikes or hikes when we aren't sharing gear. Also, how do you setup your tarp in less desireable weather? What other cautions do you take besides just the tarp setup (pads, fire trenches, etc)? I've slept under a tarp once, and it was during warm, dry weather. Again, thanks for the advice.Feb 21, 2013 at 7:51 am #1956808
Travis LeannaBPL Member
@t-lLocale: Wisconsin
Ah, that makes a bit more sense if you're sharing that filter between 5 people.
>Also, how do you setup your tarp in less desireable weather?
First off, I should clarify that I mostly use the Trailstar, which offers much more protection than many tarps.
If it's raining or snowing, I lay the tarp out and put my pack under it. I begin staking it quickly, knowing that I can/will adjust the stakes once the tarp is up. I try to pitch it according to conditions (the door facing away from the wind, and as low to the ground as needed). As the shelter takes shape, I just restake if needed.
If it's windy as well, that gets a bit more difficult. Again, just pegging the corners down to control it helps a lot. You can always pull up a peg and restake as necessary. This is where practice and knowledge comes in. I am by no means an expert, but can get the job done.
If you have to set up in deep snow, you need to know how to use deadman anchors and how to work-harden the snow. Since a tarp requires tension on the guy lines to hold it up, this takes a bit more patience than staking down a tent whose shape is formed by poles. For example, on my last trip I had to let my anchors sit 15 minutes before even thinking about erecting the center pole.
If there is no/little snow, but the ground is still frozen, make sure you have very robust stakes like MSR Groundhogs. You can pound these into the frozen ground with a rock. Bring an extra just in case you snap one (rare).
>What other cautions do you take besides just the tarp setup (pads, fire trenches, etc)
Site selection becomes pretty important. Look for natural windbreaks. As with any shelter, always look above you to make sure there are no dead/weak branches that could fall on you. Sleeping under tree cover can also help reduce radiation cooling. Valleys and depressions is where cold air settles. Consider this for site selection.
Under a tarp, I use a groundsheet (but not with a tent) and just put my pad on it. Remove sharp rocks and sticks before doing that though. I rarely have fires, so I don't worry about fire trenches.
Tarping is more nuanced than tent camping, and is a bit more work, especially in inclement weather. The tradeoffs are a lighter pack weight (though some tarptents are encroaching on some of the heavier tarp weights) and more of a "connection" to your surroundings. In winter, I'd suggest having a tarp large enough to pin to the ground and still provides ample space to move around under. This is why I use the Trailstar. Many of the Mids are good for this as well, and some would argue better since they are a bit easier to pitch.Feb 21, 2013 at 4:17 pm #1957091
Andy AndersonBPL Member
@iandersLocale: Southeast
You could go to Harbor Freight and pick up a cheap 8×10 blue tarp that will probably weight around a pound for about $10. Shop around on Gear Swap and pick up a Jam pack or similar for $60 or$70. $80 to cut 7 pounds off your base weight is pretty cheap around here. Also, reconsider getting an Xtherm or original Neoair and one of Lawson's thin CCF pads instead of the. Neoair All Season, another way to save about a pound. Keep an eye on Gear Swap, that's whereibuy all my gear.Mar 2, 2013 at 9:53 am #1960504
I just got all of my gear collected. My baseweight is about 20 pounds. I could cut weight in the future by getting a lighter pack, using a tarp setup that utilized the tarp as a ground cloth, a lighter tarp, if it was Summer less clothes, and a lighter filter.Mar 2, 2013 at 10:23 am #1960518
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Mike Clelland videosMar 4, 2013 at 12:15 pm #1961295
Tjaard BreeuwerBPL Member
@tjaardLocale: Minnesota, USA
No spoon?
No windscreen?
No map?
No compass?
What are the weights?Mar 4, 2013 at 12:36 pm #1961301
spelt with a tBPL Member
@speltLocale: SW/C PA
There is no spoon.Mar 4, 2013 at 12:56 pm #1961316
The GSI cookset includes a spork and a pot gripper. I do have a map and a GPS, forgot to add that. I guess I probably should add a wind screen.Mar 4, 2013 at 2:57 pm #1961382
Tommy NelsonBPL Member
@snowfuggerLocale: San Diego
Whoa…Mar 4, 2013 at 5:29 pm #1961456
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@carpenhLocale: St. Vrain River Valley
Tragic. :-)
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Originally Posted by rossi32s View Post
WetPets in McMurray is pretty decent. they are a bity pricey tho.
Originally Posted by Cydric View Post
They just recently took out their SW selection and replaced it with freshwater fish and guess what fish they replaced them with? MORE tetras!
WetPets in McMurray is pretty decent. they are a bity pricey tho.
Pet Supplies Plus in Bethel Park is a complete joke. I've frequented this store a couple times and it's ridiculous with their fish and plant selection. Their fish are way too expensive for just regular common guppies and tetras. They have an "Algae eating shrimp" which looks like Amanos and some other amano-lookalike mixed together for $4 each <-- are you kidding me? They just recently took out their SW selection and replaced it with freshwater fish and guess what fish they replaced them with? MORE tetras!
The plants aren't in any better shape than the plants you'd find at Wal-Mart or Petco/Petsmart. Completely covered in algae and rotting away. The last time I was in there I noticed they actually had micro grass for sale but it was in horrible condition. At one point they even had java moss!
Not to mention all their fish equipment looks 10 years old with the boxes turning all brown and yellow and also falling apart. It's a complete joke.
If you're from Western PA and haven't been to the Bethel Park PSP don't waste your time, trust me.
|Doesn't surprise me. Want a good laugh at some terrible fish keeping and plant keeping? Visit Petco in West Mifflin, I saw a tank of Bala sharks completely covered in ick. Then in the same tank I saw other fish with ick. The worst has to be their live plant section. Absolutely horrific. Let's just say...algae explosion?
I also found gittler's a let-down. I stopped by when I was driving through Johnstown,... other than having some nice red form males of Pelvicachromis pulcher and some red phantom tetras,.. they were not great. They also were keeping aggressive fish in with calm species resulting in massive kills. I noticed diseases in the tank.
It was a crapshoot. Some tanks looked healthy others not so much. Not worth the drive if you're not from the area or in the area for other reasons, but worth stopping by if you're local...
oh, and the plants and discus looked to be in quite rough shape.
yeah, unfortunately there really isn't a one-stop shop for aquarium stuff around here. I've come to find that I need to go to specific stores for what I'm looking for - Pet Supplies Warehouse for tanks/stands (or Elmer's for Oceanic), AoA for any fish, and Elmer's for when I get ghost shrimp. Alot of my goods I buy online noww (Flourish, Flourish iron, etc.) because it's just too expensive locally.
There is also Adam and Eve's Hobby shop in Latrobe if you haven't checked it out when you're down this way. Just take 981 from 119 through downtown Latrobe, once you hit route 30 go east one light and it's on the left in the back of the shopping plaza near the movie theater. (If you go down West 10 minutes you're back in Greensburg). I have a feeling you'll find it like Gittler's though. They specialize more in RC planes/cars, etc. but is the only place I've found that has quality cardinals.
It's probably going to be raining this weekend, so if you're hiking trip get's postponed you're always welcome to come to the meeting
Made it to Gittler's Aquarium in Johnstown today. Not really worth the bother. It was better than anything here in Indiana, but then again, all we have is Wally World and the scariest, nastiest, smelliest pet shop in the world.
Gittler's had a decent selection of fish, but some of the prices were really too high ($3-4 per platy, $26 per bag of Eco-Complete, more for Flora Base). Also, their plant selection consisted of one tank of mostly dead Ludwigia, Cabomba, and other common plants. Finally, I had to take issue with some of the fish that they were selling there. They had FW stingrays, bala sharks, iridescents, gars, and clown knives for sale in little dinky tanks. None of them had any notes on the tank saying that all these species grow to be huge. Don't appreciate that.
I'll tell you, it is just about impossible to find a good LFS in this area. I don't expect to find everything imaginable in a store, but all I ask for is clean tanks filled with healthy fish, knowledgable staff, and responsible practices. No such luck.
np bro. PAPAS has been together for about 9 months, we're in the process of putting together a website, hopefully it will be up soon. Meetings are every first Sunday of the month, so think about June.
If you're in the Greensburg area again and looking for some plants, PM me.
Thanks for the info, hooha.
Does the PAPAS have a website or anything? I've been thinking I might get involved with a society again.
Can't make it to AOA on the 7th. One of my first loves, backpacking, is calling me to the wild. But I will definitely have to check the place out some time. I'd like to try cherries some time. Of course that would require another tank.... Southside is not a place I frequent, but since they opened the new REI store, I've found time to get there on occasion.
Most of the Pittsburgh plant geeks hang out at the "other" forum - one is a moderator there.
I haven't checked out Atlantis yet, but was thinking about it one of these days. If I check out a Chiefs hockey game again I'll try to find Gittler's. I live in Greensburg so going into the city is a pain as well, but usually it's for aquarium-related activities
Another place in Monroeville is Petland, near the Starbucks. Not that great, but if you're looking for some of the schooling fish they usually have some stock on sale (neons, black neons, etc). Elmer's stock is disappointing, don't know if they have very healthy stuff alot of times. If I ever buy fish it's from AoA. They actually sell decent plants too - the manager is a plant geek. It's cool to talk shop with Tim (manager) about plants or Eric (owner) about fish.
You should make a trip to AoA next Sunday, May7 at 5:30....it's the next PAPAS (Pittsburgh Area Planted Aquarium Society) meeting. Lot's of plants for auction - usually 1 or 2 bucks for stuff, even rare stuff as well. Oddball also stocks some cooler planted-tank related stuff as well, like Nerite snails, Cherry shrimp, sometimes some other shrimp as well (Bumblebee, green). It's about 10 minutes from the Parkway, just south of the Southside.
WOW!!!!!! Finally another person on this forum from Western PA. It seems that every time I notice someone is from PA, it's always out East.
I've never been to All Oddball Aquatics. Sometime I'll make a trip there, but I'm not a Pittsburgh person. I like the city, but hate driving there.
I occasionally go to Elmer's, though I've been disappointed with them the last few times I was there. Another place that I like is down on 51 a few miles south of the tubes. I think it's called Atlantis Aquarium.
I've been told to check out a place in Johnstown called Gittler's, but haven't made time to see it yet. Here in Indiana, we have nothing. At all.
Pet Supply Warehouse is the place to look if you need tanks/stands or equipment for sure. I think you could always call them before making the trip out from Indiana.
As for PSP, my experience is that the North Huntingdon store is the (relatively speaking) best, then Monroeville, then Greensburg. It's only 5 minutes from me so if I'm desperate and in a hurry I'll drop by there for something.
As for livestock, the main place I go to is All Oddball Aquatics in Pittsburgh, definitely worth the trip.
Well I guess that answers the question of local, regional, or national. And I wonder if RoseHawke might have something about the franchise thing. I have certainly noticed differences in stores from one to another. But I've also noticed some of the exact same things (example, they all used to have public restrooms, now none of them will let you use it, not that it has anything to do with fish).
When my wife was in college (before we were married), she lived in Ohio, and they had a PSP there. That store seemed to have better selection and livestock.
Well, regardless, I think I'm done with them.
But since this is a Pennsylvania page, I'll put in a plug for another place here in PA. I got my new 120 and stand at Pet Supply Warehouse in Greensburg, PA. Their prices on tanks and stands are better than anywhere else I've ever found. I paid $270 for the tank and $170 for the stand. I couldn't find a 120 anywhere for less than $300 (not even That Pet Place in Lancaster). And the stand I got from them is solid oak. I couldn't even find a pine stand anywhere else for less than $200. Pet Supply Warehouse is not exactly a one stop shop. They don't sell any livestock, and their selection is limited. Customer service is a little lacking too. But if you want good prices on tanks and oak stands, you can't beat it.
|They're here in Michigan too... I'm not sure about all their prices, but they're fish are expensive and selection sucks. They do have great sales though. I bought a quality air pump (forgot the brand) at 50% the retail price at petco and petsmart.
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Fantasy Meets Reality – Meet the Superheroes! - Thursday, 2 May 2013
Fantasy meets reality at the Royal Armouries Museum, Leeds, this Bank Holiday (4 to 6 May) with an invasion of the superheroes.
From Batman to Wolverine – and Ninja to Samurai – meet our costumed superheroes with appearances and photo opportunities throughout the day.
There will also be another chance to see the replica Iron Man suit, created by Bradford's Mark Pearson as part of the museum's "Inspired by…." programme.
Museum visitors can:
- Learn about the modern superheroes' arms and armour, plus combat skills
- Discover the connection between mythical characters and real martial arts disciplines and weapons.
- Join master classes with comic book artists Kristyna Baczynski and Peter Doherty. Watch them draw – and have a go and design your own superhero.
- Enjoy workshops with Product H – History Behind the Legends. Learn what superheroes wear and the weapons they use.
- Have-a-go at basic Japanese martial arts techniques – and watch demonstrations by Batman, Wolverine, the Ninja and Samurai
The event runs daily on Saturday, Sunday and Bank Holiday Monday. Museum admission is free although a small charge may apply for some activities.
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- Open all year daily, 10am-5pm. Closed 24-25 December
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Kevin Grandia | September 5, 2006
By Kevin Grandia • Tuesday, September 5, 2006 - 15:05
As we have always maintained here at DeSmogBlog, we don't argue the science. But if legitimate scientific debate is at issue, Dr. Ball is similarly disinclined. This tape shows him, again, to be the kind of public relations person who will say whatever is necessary to give his oil-industry backers comfort.
Here's a few quotes to whet your appetites:
Ball on Global Cooling, or Notes from a Parallel Planet:
"And here's the problem I have with the global warming. The focus is on temperature. Okay, fine. And then the focus is only on warming. I think this is the stupidest thing we could be doing. Because the evidence is that we're cooling."
Ball on Long-Term Forecasting; or Quips from a "Scientist" Who Can't Tell the Difference Between Weather and Climate:
"I'd like to tell the farmers to call Environment Canada and ask, 'what's it going to be like a year from now?' And they'll say we don't do long term forecasting. Phone them the next day and ask, 'what's it going to be like a hundred years from now?' And they'll say, 'warmer.' There's a disconnect here."
Ball on the Arrogance of His Oily Organization, the Friends of Science, or Give Me Back the Gun; My Other Foot is Uninjured:
"One of the things that angers me are these groups like the Friends of Science, now think of the arrogance of the title of that. Basically what they are saying is that if you're not in our group, you're not a friend of science, or Friend of the Earth I should say, sorry the Friends of the Earth."
Watch the whole manipulative show and, by all means, let us know what your favourites are.
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More specific link to video of Ball's 2004 talk
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Canned laughter?
I hope that was canned laughter on the sound track. Surely there cannot be that number of misinformed people in Winnipeg.
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I am hoping it was nervous laughter…
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In Boston, journalist Moloney battles to protect sources
In December 2002, the U.N. Tribunal charged with prosecuting war crimes in the former Yugoslavia ruled that Washington Post reporter Jonathan Randal could not be compelled to provide testimony in the case of a Bosnian Serb official accused of carrying out a campaign of ethnic cleansing."If war correspondents were to be perceived as potential witnesses for the Prosecution," the Tribunal noted, they "may shift from being observers of those committing human rights violations to being their targets." As a result of that ruling, war correspondents enjoy some immunity against compelled testimony at the international level. But this is not necessarily the case in the United States.


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(Cleveland) - The Cuyahoga County Medical Examiner has ruled the death of 3 year old Bryson Marshall is a homocide. He was found dead at a home on Project Avenue late Friday. An Autopsy shows the boy died from blunt force trauma over much of his body. His father, 26 year old William Sheppard has been charged with Felony Child Endangerment and ordered held on $1 million bond. Additional charges are now likely.
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text: I was hoping this would be a "Christmas Carol" for everyone, then I got sick over the holidays and couldn't get out of bed. So I'm sorry it's late, but hey, at least I got it done in December! Here is part one of my interview with Carol Heiss Jenkins. She broke a podcast record and spoke for over two hours! So I split this into two podcasts for the sake of everyone's bandwidth. The one I'm releasing today is covers through the 1960 Olympics in Squaw Valley. She talks at length about how her (also very accomplished) brother and sister competed with her in the sport, what it was like taking lessons from famous coach Pierre Brunet, how she developed those axels in both directions, and a whole lot more. Part two will be released in January, and covers her film career, coaching, and thoughts on skating. Enjoy the interview, and Happy New Year!!!


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with all this excitement around all the other forums regarding challenge coins, i was wondering if TDH is considering putting together a coin?
because i know i will definately take a few
with all this excitement around all the other forums regarding challenge coins, i was wondering if TDH is considering putting together a coin?
because i know i will definately take a few
This has been done as a fund raiser for the site in the past... you seek Art, he may have 1 or 2 laying around?
Sadly, I don't have any more of the old coins and as with so many things, we have not had a chance to get a new coin designed.
I have one.. PM me.
you said you had sent it on the monday of CV..... im still waiting... i hav already received other items that i bought after the coins and they were coming from further away.....
can you please help me out mate?
ok i need to know who to talk to about this.... does anyone actually KNOW spideyfett?
i bought 2 TDH coins from him and he says he has mailed them almost 4 weeks ago... but i still have not received them...
i have in the mean time received items from the USA that i bought afterwards and i know that postage from the usa only takes about a week to get to me here in south australia.
can anybody please help me??
ho hum......
.................still waiting.....
i am not a very happy little trooper
The old coin was very nice but Id love to see a new coin done up in full color.
Spideyfett is a WELL respected member of TDH and if he said he sent them he did. It has to be a mail related problem. They'll show up dont fret.
I love challenge coins. I have several I acquired while in the US Army. I would love to have had a TDH one to add.
thanx for the info guys, im only worried cos i have already received OTHER coins & other items from other forums that i purchased after he said he sent them
first of all, please let me say im not accusing anyone of anything, i just wanted to know as i have been burned before for money that was sent for 2 helmets and the guy didnt even have them and has since dissapeared and no-one can find him to get money back or items purchased.
im so looking forward to getting them
No worries you are well within your right to be worried we are just reassuring you to ease your mind.
Sorry dudes... I left it up to my wife to ship, and well she forgot.. PM sent Jabbathenutt..
My bad..
hey buddy, did you send me another PM? or are you reffering to the one you sent me 2 weeks ago?
just wanted to check if you sent me one in the last couple of days and it hasnt arrived....
...............well still no coins....
i got my Mando Mercs keychains that were sent 2 weeks ago ...........so i know Australia post is still working LOL
can anyone help?
Did a search for the challenge coins and was wondering if possible to get another run going? (picked this thread as it was the most recent) If so i know a good place to go for some high quality stuff....
If people want a new TDH coin, i would be happy to submit a few designs =) what say you Art?
i went down to my post office today to talk to them about what might be happening, they inform me that there is nothing wrong with the Australian Postal service at the moment and told me to check with my "supplier" to make sure they have actually sent the item.
can anyone from the USA please let me know if there is anything with the US postal service at the moment? are they on strike or anything?? LOL
the last PM i got from Spideyfett was on the 20th of Sept saying he mailed them on the friday before, it would not normally take this long to get anything from the states to here in Australia.
The USPS is not on strike. If you are really so beat up about it just ask him to refund the $$ and then if it finally shows up send him back the $$. He is a GREAT guy, I'm sure he'd be willing to work with you.


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Town Square
Let Us Praise Hostess Twinkies and Wonder Bread
Original post made by Paul Losch, Community Center, on Nov 16, 2012
"Wonder Bread: you wonder if its bread!" It was a major factor in a Jif or Skippy peanut butter (smooth not chunky) and jelly sandwich, along with some Welch's grape jam. And the Wonderbread wrapper was great—it looked like balloons!
What a lucky lunch pail I carried to school in those days. Along with a little box of SunMaid raisins. I bought a carton of milk at school.
I did enjoy the occasional Twinkie, an ersatz sponge bread filled with a faux cream. We had enough real cupcakes baked in my household that the Hostess variety was in a category of its own. I did like Ho-Ho's, a variation on the theme of Twinkies' and Cupcakes.
My business experience suggests that the Hostess company needed to shut down. The key product offerings were obsolete, there did not appear to be a culture that could adapt and develop products that kept up with the times. The key Hostess products lost their allure a long time ago, for parents, kids, and the competition.
I find it regrettable that the company has 18,000 employees who will have to move on from working at a company where they may have limited transferrable skills. Worked on the Ho-Ho line? Not sure what that means when seeking employment in another mass produced bakery organization.
My food shopping practices in recent times have been such that I have not even seen Twinkies or Ho-Ho's on the shelf, let alone purchased them. I think I am a microcosm of many, who once consumed these products, but moved on, and did not pass them along to the next generation.
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a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Nov 16, 2012 at 9:07 am
RIP Mayor Moscone, assassinated by a psycho who claimed to be high on Twinkies.
a resident of Green Acres
on Nov 16, 2012 at 10:33 am
wither the South?
No more deep fried Twinkies.
Perhaps an end to today's headline? Diabetes Rates, Links to Obesity, Skyrocket in South
Probably not. But they want to secede anyway....
a resident of Green Acres
on Nov 16, 2012 at 10:34 am
Seriously though, someone will buy those still popular brands. They will live on, infamously.
a resident of Green Acres
on Nov 16, 2012 at 10:42 am
Some detail: a private equity (think Bain-style vulture capitalism)company bought Hostess. They previously instituted major wage and benefit cuts, while the executives took huge pay packages.
"Unfortunately however, for the past eight years management of the company has been in the hands of Wall Street investors, "restructuring experts", third-tier managers from other non-baking food companies and currently a "liquidation specialist". Six CEO's in eight years, none of whom with any bread and cake baking industry experience, was the prescription for failure."
a resident of Midtown
on Nov 16, 2012 at 11:01 am
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a resident of Green Acres
on Nov 16, 2012 at 11:25 am
Hostess was a viable, solid company with national and regionally recognized brands -- locally, they own Colombo Breads, top notch sourdough.
Sourdough.... yum!
Enter the private equity barons, who make their money breaking things up, and they decided early on to drive Hostess into liquidation, using tax loopholes to make it even more profitable for them, but not for working families.
here's Dvid Stockman, the Reagan guy, on this style of vulture capitalism: Web Link
Well, we still have Krispy Kreme. And the top tier management at Hostess, the liquidators, will do great through all this.
That's what counts, right?
a resident of Crescent Park
on Nov 16, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Junk food, the factory farm, the chemical industry and then the "health" care profits made when sick people finally fail in some way is the core of the American system now ... it is institutionally TOO BIG TO FAIL. All driven by the petrochemical industry, that funnels money to the same people who prevent any change or even competition and then get so much money they can expand and take over everything else in the economy and promote what are basically fascist ideals, certainly nothing recognizable as American from a generation or two back.
Kids born these days do not even have much contact with anyone who can tell them different, and the media assures them they can safely and righteous ignore their parents and elders anyway!
How does this change? I have no idea, I just try not to put any money into this system that I can possible avoid, hoping that others will join me and see the light.
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Nov 16, 2012 at 12:21 pm
As for me, I never touch the stuff, though i suspect that all the preservatives may be preserving the people who eat them.
a resident of Community Center
on Nov 16, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Paul Losch is a registered user.
My initial observaions were around the Hostess products, and their viability in this day and age.
I know nothing about recent ownership, but Hostess does fit the bill for a "turn around" situation. The sort of thing that private equity types with turn around teams pursue.
It's differentfriom what many VC's do in these parts, which is focused mainly on helping new ideas grow.
Failure rate very high in both sectors. The "home runs" make up for the things that strike out.
My MBA from a well known business school suggests to me that if it was a private equity firm that owned the business in the last few years, there was a group running the company that had a limited understanding of the marketplace in which Hostess participated, and had no motivation to keep the brands going.
Monetize as much as possible and bail out.
a resident of Fairmeadow
on Nov 16, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Several of our large, institutional employers are probably going to disappear in the coming decade--
Sears Posts $500M loss:
Web Link
US Post Office Loses $15.9B:
Web Link
The Internet will probably be the agent of change that will usher some of the companies to the door, labor unions will be pall bearers in the industries where they have festered for decades. Automation may help a few of these companies survive--but the management of any "old industry" companies will need to take the bull by the horns as quickly as possible, automating what they can, and liquidating what they can't, if the unions refuse to play ball.
a resident of Community Center
on Nov 16, 2012 at 5:43 pm
We used to eat the cake out of the snowballs and make rubbery toys out of the marshmallow coating. My dad said that Wonder bread was just unsweetened pastry dough, and that it was called Wonder bread because everyone wondered what it really was. He used to put peanut butter and honey on it and call it dessert.
But seriously, I think the company that owned it most recently did not have a clue, as they seemed to do no marketing. They probably tirned the day-to-day business over to another compamy, as Paul says, and they had no clue, either. Just squeeze the money out and run.
The sad part is all those employees who have worked there since graduating high school--who will pay to re-train or re-educate them?
a resident of Community Center
on Nov 16, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Paul Losch is a registered user.
To Wayne Martin:
Of course the internet is changing the face of retail, and I don't think the internet has killed the Twinkie.
Even in this rarefied part of the world, where high tech generates wealth, employment and other benefits, there remains a great deal of commerce that cannot go over a fiber optic line.
Distribution is a key to success for many businesses. It is a constant struggle for the company I have run. But there are products and companies that will require access to their customers via means other than the internet.
a resident of Midtown
on Nov 16, 2012 at 7:08 pm
A petition at the White House is urging president Obama to "nationalize the Twinkie industry".
The iconic cake manufacturer declared bankruptcy after it failed to reach an agreement with the union. Politico reports that the AFL-CIO is blaming the company for refusing to operate at a loss.
"What's happening with Hostess Brands is a microcosm of what's wrong with America, as Bain-style Wall Street vultures make themselves rich by making America poor. Crony capitalism and consistently poor management drove Hostess into the ground, but its workers are paying the price," AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka said in a Friday statement
The last time radicals defined the issue as a class war it did not work out so well
Some want to to try that strategy again-last time it ended in mass death and organized crime.
So it goes
How about crispy creams donuts?
a resident of Fairmeadow
on Nov 16, 2012 at 8:13 pm
> But there are products and companies that will
> require access to their customers via means
> other than the internet.
We have yet to begin to think about how disruptive the Internet/Digital Technologies will be in the coming years. Let's take 3-D printing, for instance--
3-D Printing:
Web Link
3-D Printing Revolution (6 mins):
Web Link
3-D Metal Printing (5 mins):
Web Link
Although this technology has been around for over a decade, it is now moving into the consumer marketplace, as the first video above demonstrates. It's too early to begin to consider the bounds for 3-D printing, but it does offer some very interesting possibilities that allow people to connect via the Internet with web-sites offering products that can be "printed" at home, or at a local "3-D Print Shop". Delivery services can provide the last leg of "distribution", allowing everything but the actual parcel drop-off to be done over the Internet.
Higher speed data networks, coupled with large screen displays, and imaginative, animated, on-line sales points which might well have a complete profile of every customer could easily be envisioned which would allow people to virtually "try on" clothes, shoes, hats, etc. Again--no travel would be required in order to make the sale.
I suppose we will still have to move lumber, and gravel, to building sites with trucks--but who knows, maybe there will be some sort of organic synthesis available one of these days. Pour a little carbon and water in one end, and out comes 2x4s at the other.
Anything is possible. So, best not sell the Internet short, just yet, anyway.
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CO Democrat: Even if you feel like you might get raped, you may not, so no guns for you
posted at 9:31 pm on February 18, 2013 by Mary Katharine Ham
Downplaying the threat of rape? Check. Questioning the ability of grown, sentient women to perceive that threat? Check. A man in a position of power presuming to know what's best for women he knows nothing about? Check. Limiting women's choices by law in potentially life-threatening situations? Check. Six months ago, this was known as the frightful patriarchy. Now, it's just another member of the Party of Women doing his part for the good work of gun control.
In arguing for the disarmament of college students in Colorado this week, state Rep. Joe Salazar suggested a novel method of self-defense for women on campus— just chill, ladies.
"It's why we have call boxes, it's why we have safe zones, it's why we have the whistles. Because you just don't know who you're gonna be shooting at. And you don't know if you feel like you're gonna be raped, or if you feel like someone's been following you around or if you feel like you're in trouble when you may actually not be, that you pop out that gun and you pop … pop around at somebody."
Well, after all, you might not get raped. In Salazar's world, not only are women incapable of defending themselves against a physical threat, but they are incapable of even identifying a physical threat, and should therefore be deprived of the ability to try. Empowerment! I guess if you are raped, there's this…safe zone. Look, colleges are welcome to establish safe zones (though criminals are notoriously unobservant of such signage), call boxes, lighted paths, and whistles to help prevent campus attacks. I have benefited from at least a few of these tools, and begrudge no one their use. But I would also like women who choose to arm themselves, in the event that safe zones, call boxes, lights, and whistles don't work, to retain the right to their chosen tool of prevention.
Revealing Politics has background on the bill in question:
House Bill 13-1226 to prohibit the lawful concealed carry on Colorado college campuses passed the Colorado House of Representatives this morning. Many of the arguments Democrats used to justify the bill included the alcohol and drug use common on campuses coupled with the age and immaturity of average college students. These arguments didn't resonate with many Republican lawmakers and opponents of the bill who cited Colorado's intensive training process for obtaining a concealed carry permit and the state's requirement that permit-holders be 21 years of age, as rebuttal.
Salazar has apologized for revealing how incapable he believes women are. (Notice the framing of the story in local media is not about his comments, but about conservatives objecting to them.)
"I'm sorry if I offended anyone. That was absolutely not my intention," Salazar said. "We were having a public policy debate on whether or not guns makes people safer on campus. I don't believe they do. That was the point I was trying to make. If anyone thinks I'm not sensitive to the dangers women face, they're wrong. "I am a husband and father of two beautiful girls, and I've spent the last decade defending women's rights as a civil rights attorney. Again, I'm deeply sorry if I offended anyone with my comments."
Charles Cooke notes the University of Colorado's advice for women under attack. This would be the liberal-sanctioned method of self-defense if the Rep. Salazar method of hoping real hard doesn't pan out. Passive resistance, bare feet, and your period:
Be realistic about your ability to protect yourself.
Your instinct may be to scream, go ahead! It may startle your attacker and give you an opportunity to run away.
Kick off your shoes if you have time and can't run in them.
Don't take time to look back; just get away.
If your life is in danger, passive resistance may be your best defense.
Tell your attacker that you have a disease or are menstruating.
Vomiting or urinating may also convince the attacker to leave you alone.
Yelling, hitting or biting may give you a chance to escape, do it!
Understand that some actions on your part might lead to more harm.
Remember, every emergency situation is different. Only you can decide which action is most appropriate.
"Only you can decide which action is most appropriate." That is, unless you'd like to use a projectile more potent than vomit, in which case, settle down little missy. You can't be trusted.
In other "common sense" gun control news, a Washington state bill obliterates the Fourth Amendment for gun owners. Oops:
It seemed in recent weeks lawmakers might be headed toward some common-sense regulation of gun sales. But then last week they went too far. By mistake, they claim. But still too far.
"They always say, we'll never go house to house to take your guns away. But then you see this, and you have to wonder."
That's no gun-rights absolutist talking, but Lance Palmer, a Seattle trial lawyer and self-described liberal who brought the troubling Senate Bill 5737 to my attention. It's the long-awaited assault-weapons ban, introduced last week by three Seattle Democrats.
Responding to the Newtown school massacre, the bill would ban the sale of semi-automatic weapons that use detachable ammunition magazines. Clips that contain more than 10 rounds would be illegal.
But then, with respect to the thousands of weapons like that already owned by Washington residents, the bill says this:
"In order to continue to possess an assault weapon that was legally possessed on the effective date of this section, the person possessing shall … safely and securely store the assault weapon. The sheriff of the county may, no more than once per year, conduct an inspection to ensure compliance with this subsection."
In other words, come into homes without a warrant to poke around. Failure to comply could get you up to a year in jail.
When the sheriff shows up, try vomiting or urinating.
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Tantra in TibetThis edition of Tantra in Tibet consists of three parts published under the auspices of the Dalai Lama. "Essence of Tantra" by H. H. the Dalai Lama reveals the highly practical and compassionate use of this science of spiritual development. His Holiness discusses tantra for practice, refuge, the three paths, greatness of mantra, clear light, and initiation. "The Great Exposition of Secret Mantra—part 1" by Tsong-ka-pa is one of the… Read More
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