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Town Square
Is it 'racial profiling' or a reasonable police response to crimes?
Original post made by Jay Thorwaldson, editor emeritus, on Oct 31, 2008
A follow-up meeting Thursday evening between Palo Alto police brass and about 40 residents concerned about crime and safety shifted abruptly into a concern about race or ethnic background.
That explosively emotional topic quickly spiraled out of control to a national-media level.
Here, without the overlay of emotional response to what was reported, is more or less what happened:
In response to a question by frequent police critic Aram James, Chief Lynne Johnson said she has instructed officers that they should question persons of color who match descriptions of men who have been seen stealing from people's homes and cars or who have engaged in a series of terrifying strong-arm robberies mostly targeting women walking alone.
That does not mean all persons of color, though. And Johnson never used the term, "racial profiling," that showed up in national headlines.
Things got worse when she later said in a post-meeting television interview that because one robber near the California Avenue train station was described as an African Amercian man wearing a "do-rag" head bandanna that she would expect her officers to stop and identify any African American man seen wearing a do-rag. One can almost hear do-rags being doffed by everyone.
Mayor Larry Klein responded strongly Friday afternoon, calling that statement on its face "unacceptable, unconstitutional and un-American."
Most but not all burglars and robbers spotted by witnesses were described as black (or "dark-skinned") or Hispanic -- some were white. But police aren't stopping white drivers or people walking around town, unless they're driving a big white van with blue stripes on the side, the truck seen in a home burglary.
So is it, as James suggested, an unconstitutional infringement on the rights of some persons, or is it a reasonable response to witness descriptions of burglars and robbers? Is it, as a national headline on MSNBC concludes, "racial profiling" or is it a proper response to citizen anger and very real fear of crime and violence? Or is it some of both?
Johnson said officers have been instructed to make "consensual contacts" with persons who may match descriptions of burglars or muggers, and to do so with respect. She acknowledged the potential for abuse and misperceptions of the intent.
A series of violent assaults and purse snatchings, and a baseball-bat attack that shattered the shoulder of a man in the downtown Palo Alto Caltrain pedestrian tunnel, have badly frightened many residents. One elderly woman who was knocked to the ground -- a potentially fatal attack -- is now terrified to walk anywhere alone, a close friend said at the meeting. An imprisonment by fear.
But an innocent person of any color who is stopped due to their appearance or skin color doesn't soon forget it, especially if they are treated in a high-handed or abusive manner.
And there is a long history.
Add to the emotional mix literally years of tension in Palo Alto relating to being stopped for "driving while black" and a severe beating of the late Albert Hopkins, then-supervisor of Gunn High School's academic center, by two Palo Alto officers in July 2003.
It was a hunch by a rookie officer who noticed a young black man sitting in an older sedan in south Palo Alto who "seemed out of place" that later led to the arrest of the suspect in a brutal assault on a girl on her way home from Gunn High School. Was that racism or racial profiling or a reasonable precaution?
Inflammatory, partial news coverage of the Thursday meeting and Johnson's offhand comments have made matters explosively worse.
But the fact is that even James had some nice words about the department near the end of the meeting.
"I appreciate a lot of officers in the department, but there are some bad apples who abuse the Constitution," James commented.
And Johnson agreed with James about his expressed concern about potential abuse when officers stop and question persons based even partially on color.
The entire dialogue on race or ethnicity lasted just a few minutes out of about an hour and a half. Johnson Friday was preparing a "clarification" statement in response to the national news coverage.
At the end of the meeting, residents gave police brass at the meeting a round of applause for their efforts.
In my own experience, having covered the Palo Alto Police Department during the late 1960s and 1970s, I can state flatly that there was overt racism (a term I hesitate to use because it is nonproductive in most cases) on the part of some officers. Officers used similar excuses for following persons of color through downtown Palo Alto, especially groups of teenagers walking through town. Often, an officer would cruise slowly along behind them in a police car.
And, yes, there were reports of groups of minority teens entering local stores and one distracting the clerk while others stuffed candy bars or small items in their pockets.
I was friends with a former police officer in a town north of Palo Alto. He was a neighbor who was assigned a police dog that only understood German. We awoke on some weekends to him running his German (literally) shepherd through his paces on his front lawn: "Achtung! Sitzen."
My friend quit the other department because he couldn't stomach a fellow canine officer keeping his dog on snarling attack alert by repeating, "Get the n------! Get the n------!" repeatedly as they patrolled neighborhoods.
When there are bad apples they can be really rotten.
At the erstwhile Palo Alto Times, we hired an outstanding young African-American man, Wil Webster, as a "news clerk" -- a term we coined to replace the traditional but then clearly inappropriate "copy boy" in the newsroom. Wil was a tall track star from East Palo Alto and one of his jobs was to rush photos to an engraving shop several blocks from the Times' building on Lytton Avenue, and bring back the engravings, on deadline.
He was the fastest photo delivery and pickup clerk we ever had because he loped through town with long track-star strides.
But just about every week he'd be stopped by one Palo Alto officer or another, who assumed that a young black man running full tilt down Emerson Street just had to be up to no good. Wil took it in stride, so to speak.
Times' Editor Al Bodi finally wrote a letter on Times' stationery informing officers that Wil was on official duty and should not be delayed. (Sadly, Wil was drafted and drowned a few years later while swimming in a river in Vietnam, where he spent his off-duty time working to improve lives of local villagers. Several of us in the newsroom choked up, some cried, when we got word of his death.)
If there is a prime evil in the world, it is judging people by the color of their skin or ethnicity, in my view. But distrust of those who differ from "us" runs deep, some believe back to the origins of man where strangers were objects of immediate distrust -- and being cast out by a tribe to wander alone was equivalent to a sentence of death or enslavement.
Can we as a species outgrow that primordial fear-based distrust, even hate?
We are about to put that measure to a great national test next Tuesday, election day.
Will we pass?
Comments (44)
a resident of another community
on Oct 31, 2008 at 5:08 pm
This is a well written editorial. One of the fundamental problems with racial profiling is that many police officers are poorly trained in how to handle these situations. For example, in the Albert Hopkins case, I suspect that the police officers were not evil or racist. They simply did not know what to do when the found a black man sitting in his legally parked car minding his own business. The officers did not understand the rights of a citizen, which led to his beating. If we want police officers to be more aggressive in these situations, we need to improve their training to avoid more collateral damage like this.
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Nov 1, 2008 at 9:58 am
> They simply did not know what to do when the found a black man
> sitting in his legally parked car minding his own business.
You mean like offering to take him home in their police car, or calling him a cab, or even suggesting that he drive home, as he would be safer at home--rather than in a car on a Palo Alto street?
(This latter suggestion would have been prophetic, since he did come to some harm in his car after the initial encounter with the Palo Alto police.)
a resident of Midtown
on Nov 1, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Nicely written article. Racial profiling sucks and I believe some officers of Palo Alto police engage in this type of behavior. Fortunatley for me, I am on the other end of the scale. Not so fortunate for African-Americans or Latinos. Very sad. I think because of this, more dialogue is needed.
Kudos to the police dog officer who quit because of the other, obviously, racist police dog officer.
Steve, Midtown
a resident of Midtown
on Nov 1, 2008 at 3:58 pm
As I recall the man who was severely beaten by PAPD made the "mistake" of being passive agressive. (meaning he refused to cooperate because he knew he had done nothing wrong)
This happened just 5 years ago, and it really puts the lie to the concept of "consensual contacts". If -- for whatever reason -- the cops suspect you are up to no good, your *only* practical choice is to cooperate fully until they are satisfied otherwise. This is true for everyone.
Years ago I was in the wrong place (bank ATM at 2am) at the wrong time (silent burglar alarm malfunctioned) when first one, then 2 and 3 cop cars pulled up. At the time I was a clean cut, articulate, sober, white, male, engineer. There was still nothing consensual about our contact. The only practical option in that situation was to relax, cooperate fully and let the cops do their job.
PAPD needs to recognize this, and the tremendous potential for police abuse.
At the same time that we step up these "consensual contacts" to fight crime, we should educate the public on how to get through them as quickly as possible, the difficulty of the jobs the cops face, and the mechanisms in place to detect and correct both small and large abuses of police power. (I assume they exist, but have no idea what they are)
PAPD needs to show us that they "get" the practical power they have over our citizens and that they are responsive to feedback about problem officers. That, more than anything, will reinforce my faith that the vast majority of the officers are trying to do the right thing.
- Ralph
a resident of Professorville
on Nov 1, 2008 at 7:45 pm
From what I understand, the person (Albert Hopkins) that was "severly beaten" for being "passive aggresive" had in fact actively resisted arrest during the encounter. The officers had a reasonable suspicion to detain Hopkins, so Hopkins had a legal obligation to comply with all of the officers requests. Hopkins' only "mistake" was not cooperating with the officers.
There shouldn't have been anything consenual about you being stopped during your bank incident. Wasn't it reasonable that officers stopped you after a bank burglar alarm went off at 2am? Put yourself in the shoes of an officer. If you were dispatched to a bank alarm at 2am, during off business hours, and you saw only one person standing next to the bank where the alarm was originating from, wouldn't you stop and question that person?
The law states that you can detain someone when you have reasonable suspicion to believe that a crime is being committed, and the person you contact may be involved in the commission of a crime. I think it was reasonable that officers detained you at the bank ATM.
I think you should educate YOURSELF on the law before you pass judgement on officers who work hard to protect you and your family.
Your Mother
a resident of Professorville
on Nov 1, 2008 at 8:04 pm
It's not police officers that need better training on how to deal with black men sitting in a legally parked car, minding their own business. It is the general public that need to educate themselves on the LAW and their legal obligations as citizens. And the general public should learn the LAW from a source other than hollywood.
a resident of Duveneck School
on Nov 1, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Cops have a no-win situation: people complain when they racial profile, yet if a person who fits a racial profiling description commits a crime, people complain that the cops weren't around to help the victim. Let the PAPD do their jobs their way and mind your own business. Screaming racism is like trying to argue about abortion. No one budges.
Sometimes it seems that people give criminals more rights than our law enforcement. Let the police protect us and quit it with your complaining because when you are in trouble, you are happy to see the police.
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Nov 1, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Jay - did not know that you were still at it. Good article. Lynn put "foot in mouth" at her community meeting. PAPD is not what media have described in a number of articles I've read. Thanks. John B., Chico, CA (Retired 17 years ago~!)
editor emeritus
on Nov 1, 2008 at 10:38 pm
Jay Thorwaldson is a registered user.
FYI to readers: John Bullerjahn was a longtime Palo Alto police officer.
To John: E-mail me at firstname.lastname@example.com.
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Nov 1, 2008 at 10:41 pm
John B: You mean they are getting a bad rap? You left us with a teaser sentence.
a resident of another community
on Nov 2, 2008 at 5:12 am
If a suspect for a violent crime is black and wearing a do-rag then police officers should be looking for and questioning black men with do-rags. Seems logical to me.
If certain groups don't want to listen to logic and don't like being stopped then they should cut down on the amount of crime they committ? Again, seems logical.
a resident of South of Midtown
on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:33 am
I don't like racism or racial profiling. However I agree that police need to look for people who look like the perpetrators of these crimes. To force them to question people who do not fit the description in order to avoid racism is absurd. Not all people of any race are responsible for crimes comitted by people of that race, but unfortunately, as was pointed out earlier in the comments, if you are present in an area where crimes have been taking place and if you happen to resemble the perpetrators, you might be questioned. When people who look like me get around to hitting people with bats, etc, I will gladly submit to questioning because any of us, no matter our ethnic origins, could be the next victim and it benefits us all to help the police in their efforts, no matter what.
a resident of Midtown
on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:11 pm
"The only practical option in that situation was to relax, cooperate fully and let the cops do their job."
Are you complaining about this remarkable epiphamy?
As I recall, Albert Hopkins appeared to be sleeping in his car on a residential street. That is illegal in Palo Alto. Even if it wasn't illegal, Mr. Hopkins could simply have been cooperative, but he decided to cop an attitude (pun intended).
I have never felt that getting into a hassle with a cop is a healthy thing to do...they have the sticks and tasers and guns...and maybe they had a bad night with their spouse. Why take a chance? However, in a larger context, citizens who want public safety need to get over their own narcissistic impulses. Cops have a very hard job to do. Why not cooperate with them, even if we are pulled over for no obvious reason? It has happened to me three times in Palo Alto.
I am white.
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Nov 3, 2008 at 4:01 pm
This a question of criminal profiling.
When you see facts like this Web Link
Then the PAPD are acting rationally when they want to talk with residents of EPA who are in PA.
The EPA has done nothing about the massive epidemic of violent crime/ rape etc in EPA, it is now spilling over to our town.
Enough is enough
a resident of University South
on Nov 4, 2008 at 2:38 am
Anne says
"the PAPD are acting rationally when they want to talk with residents of EPA who are in PA."
How in the world do you know they are from EPA? This is profiling of the worst kind: "they are black, blacks live in EPA, therefore they must be stopped because blacks are the problem." How can a black person feel safe with this racism? Do you want to put up a toll at the border and approve which residents you want in Palo Alto?
Then she complained:
"The EPA has done nothing about the massive epidemic of violent crime/ rape etc in EPA, it is now spilling over to our town."
The EPA? What kind of language is this? Kind of like, "that one"? EPA just might need help. These are your neighbors. What are you doing to help? Maybe the old saying, "If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem" is in play here.
a resident of Midtown
on Nov 4, 2008 at 4:48 am
The administration in EPA cannot or will not deal with their violent crime wave.
The National Guard must be called in to take over the administration and law enforcement of EPA as soon as possible, write to the governor of California to make this happen.
The mayor of EPA should be ashamed of herself, how can she criticize the PAPD who are doing the job that she is unwilling or unable to do?
Look at the facts here Web Link
In fact the situation is much worse now.
Face the facts regarding violent crime, rape etc in EPA and call in the National Guard to put an end to it and thereby also protect Palo Alto from these violent thugs.
a resident of another community
on Nov 4, 2008 at 4:48 am
Just when you think we have come so far you have comments such as Anne's and you realize we really haven't! It is really sad that there are still some people who think that it is ok to prejudge others simply because of their race and/or where they live. All communities have problems not just EPA. Palo Alto has it's share of problems as well that have nothing to do with the people of EPA. They come from the people right there in good old PA. Wake up Anne and you may be shocked by who's doing what right in you backyard or right next door!
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Nov 4, 2008 at 6:29 am
I do not know the PAPD chief or her competence in the job, but with all the shakedown artists and lawyers seeking profit who are now in feeding frenzy her career here is over.
If you look at the link provided by Anne Web Link
Your eyes are opened to the reality of violent crime in EPA, it is off the charts.
Stopping the violence in Palo Alto will require stopping the violence in EPA or else building a fence.
By all accounts the violence in EPA is getting worse, much of it gang related, no doubt.
I agree that it is time to call in the National Guard to end this plague on both our communities.
There are decent families in both Palo Alto and EPA, all are terrorized by these gangster thugs.
It is time to end it.
Whatever it takes.
a resident of Downtown North
on Nov 4, 2008 at 10:45 am
If the victim reports the perp was caucasian, it makes no sense to look for african-american or asian suspects. Permute that any way you want; the point is the same.
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Nov 4, 2008 at 12:53 pm
I think your article is great but for one thing if you think that the election is only about race that is very disrepectful of either party and what they stand for also what does it say about what you think of the people voting.
a resident of another community
on Nov 5, 2008 at 8:48 am
Mother, Put the crack pipe down and stop smoking the power mixed with denial.
You already are a clueless bigot.
a resident of Midtown
on Nov 5, 2008 at 9:58 am
The question of Albert Hopkins "resisting arrest" comes up and he's labeled as "passive-agressive". I wonder how many times he'd already had to face being questioned about whether he was doing something wrong just because of the color of his skin.
If I was getting hassled on a regular basis by armed authority figures, I'd sure as hell start getting resentful after a while. I might not go along with them so easily after a while.
I might have resentment over the hurt and shame of frequent accusations justified only due to the shade of my skin color.
I'm really sure the police have a difficult job. I'm also really sure that the responsibility that goes along with the power of the job is easy to overlook. A high standard is required.
We'll continue to have a lot of these problems until our concept of "we" expands to ignore the specious consideration of skin color.
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Nov 5, 2008 at 10:12 am
The facts of the Albert Hopkins matter are that both officers were Asian, Hopkins was acting strangely and gave probable cause for questioning, sleeping in your car in a residential neighborhood suggests intoxication and needs to be investigated. The two officers are still in their jobs.
The city settled out of court because it was cheaper than a trial in which the race card would be played as it was with OJ and many others.
a resident of College Terrace
on Nov 9, 2008 at 7:58 am
Let's get something straight. Unless you are or have been a police officer, you have no right to use the term "cop". They are police officers, show them the respect they deserve.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 9, 2008 at 11:19 pm
What luck! Instead of me, the mob goes after the cop. Sorry, chief! Honesty and straight talk don't pay. You should have just given a PC statement like any old pol who say one thing and do another. Instead, you took the vitims' words and told the truth, believing it's the right thing to do. Too bad for you, many can't deal with the truth. They'd rather go after you than face up to reality. Heck, some aren't even from PA. What do they care about the little old ladies who get mugged around here? Better business for me. I'll just rob another house and get my van loaded with them big screen TV and fancy electronics, while you get chased out of town. Yippie!
a resident of Gunn High School
on Nov 10, 2008 at 12:15 am
It's mind boggling that East Palo Altans should be protesting and calling for the ouster of the Palo Alto police chief and a boycott of businesses here. Shouldn't they be protesting their own police dept. for letting crime run rampant, and driving them over here to get business services? They could use a police chief who actually works and tries to do something about safety and law enforcement. Did they not realize we just elected a new president of African descent, and the nation has officially entered the age of beyond race? For them though, race is still stuck in the subconscious, like a watermark showing in every page of their vision. Racism still exists, but not in this particular case, and not a factor in all matters. Please fight the battles that count and do not terrorize the innocent and blame the victims.
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Nov 10, 2008 at 5:35 am
Some years ago, the new city of West Hollywood tried to impose a passport and require a visa to visit the city on weekends. So many straight boys were dressing up to come party at the clubs in the town. And they were able to "blend in" so well that the peace officers had problems figuring out who was who. Eventually, they just dropped the requirement and revenue went way up. It was easier to keep people from pissing in the bushes south of Santa Monica Blvd.
Maybe more of a police presence on foot or bike is needed. Robbers and muggers just seem to blend and look like the rest of us and there's no telling until it's to late.
a resident of Midtown
on Nov 11, 2008 at 10:01 am
Yes the comments made by the police chief were wrong and completely ludicrous HOWEVER they were said by her NOT by the police officers in Palo Alto. I am sick of reading these ridiculous blogs by people like Jay Thorwaldson who have no idea what police work really entails. People pick apart police officers and criticize everything they do. Each day police officers go to work risking their lives for the thankless people like him. Mistakes are made sometimes but let's not let that over shadow the hundreds of hundreds of calls they take a day successfully and how they work to keep our city safe.
As for the police officer who successfully caught the man who brutally attacked a young girl walking home from school that was NOT racial profiling it was suspect profiling which ended up working because the suspect was caught. People are so quick to judge and throw out slander against the police however if anything were to ever happen who is the first call they would make…the police.
So yes the remarks from the Chief were not okay but let's remember they came from her not from the other 100 plus police officers who work tirelessly and thanklessly everyday to protect Palo Alto citizens and our streets.
a resident of Downtown North
on Nov 11, 2008 at 4:22 pm
Just a quick question on the comment you made about the rookie cop who said the black male he saw, "seemed out of place." I'm an independent journalist, and I followed that case very closely, and no where in any of the reports, interviews and during both of the court appearences did he or anyone else investigating the case said those words. Can you plese elaborate or are you making up quotes to fill in space on your editorial.
a resident of Downtown North
on Nov 13, 2008 at 1:07 am
Seeing the crime comparison data between PA and EPA is shocking and eye opening! Considering the rampant, out of control, violent criminal behavior in EPA, I am amazed PA is as safe as it is. Obviously the PA police are doing something right!
Perhaps the citizens of PA should march into EPA city hall to demand an end to all the criminals coming into PA to rob houses and people!
I don't think this is a racial profiling issue. I think the real issue (as statistics clearly indicate) is that all the criminals live in EPA. Criminals don't like the police, so obviously they will use any excuse to complain against the police. We law-abiding citizens probably shouldn't listen to what the criminals want!
Oh well, perhaps with continental drift, earthquakes, geothermal activity and such, EPA will eventually break off and float away into the ocean!
a resident of Professorville
on Nov 14, 2008 at 8:27 am
From what I understand, the contact with Albert Hopkins was not initiated by an officer just driving around in his beat. The contact with Hopkins was made when a citizen called him in as a suspicious person in a vehicle.
Now, the person that called Hopkins in may have had some racial bias. They may have thought Hopkins was suspicious just based on the color of his skin. Did the responding officers know Hopkins was black before they arrived? I imagine that police officers don't have a choice in choosing which calls to go to. When I call PAPD and report a suspicious person in a vehicle parked in front of my house in the wee hours of the night, I'd want them to come out and investigate. For all I know, the suspicious person may be casing my home to burglarize it. The race of the person sitting in the suspicious vehicle would not be a factor for me in arousing my suspicions. Just the fact of an unknown vehicle parked in front of my home, occupied by an unknown person is enough cause for me to be concerned.
So are you suggesting that the officers who arrived at the scene just drive by and not stop to investigate because the person sitting in the car was black? "Dispatch, from Ofc. JOE, I arrived at the scene and it's just a black person sitting in a car, in a dimly lit area, behind Mike's Bikes, which was burglarized last week. Ahh.. I don't want to get accused of racial profiling, so I'm clear this call." Is this what you want out officers to do?
The fact of the matter is, Hopkins was contacted not because he was black, but because he was sitting in his car, late in the evening, behind a business that had been burglarized a week prior. Although sitting in a car, in the late hours is not illegal, I think it was more than reasonable for a citizen to be concerned and for them to call the police to investigate the person in the car. If Hopkins did not want to be hassled by "armed authority figures", well, he should not place himself in situations where criminal suspicion may arise.
And as a side note, I just read that Albert Hopkins' son, Kyle Hopkins, was arrested for burglary, possession of stolen property and possession of a stolen, illegal handgun. Hmm. go figure. Was it racial profiling that led to his arrest?
You should always listen to Your Mother.
a resident of Atherton
on Nov 14, 2008 at 2:41 pm
I think the police could have probably been more courteous when interacting with Hopkins.
Although the courts use "innocent until proven guilty." The police very much do the opposite. This initial interaction, is I believe mainly based on the color of your skin and the perception the officers have of your wealth. If this was an elderly white male in his brand new top of the line Mercedes, the officers probably would have been VERY courteous to him, and things would have turned out very differently.
End of the day, the what is in the police report is what the police wrote, it is not what really happened. No one will ever know besides the police that was there and Hopkins.
Your Mother will never really understand the severity of racial profiling until she is in their shoes - a black man being constantly harassed by police for things he did not do.
a resident of Charleston Meadows
on Nov 14, 2008 at 11:20 pm
Lots you have different versions of the Hopkins case. None of you were there. When it came to a jury trial of the police officers...the jury was hung, with seven whites and one black voting to convict and four asian-americans voting to acquit (the police were also asian-american). I suspect the jurors had a lot more information that any people on this website and they couldn't agree. Give it a rest. Albert Hopkins is dead now. May he rest in peace.
Here's my source:
Web Link
a resident of Professorville
on Nov 15, 2008 at 7:47 am
Want the truth,
How and why do you assume that the officers that contacted Hopkins were not courteous during the contact? What evidence do you have to support that? I believe things went south when HOPKINS played the race card for being contacted, and HE became discourteous with the police. Your scenario of a white man in a mercedes getting better treatment by the police is completely erroneous. The white guy in the mercedes would have been taking into custody in the same manner HOPKINS was, if he acted in the same manner HOPKINS did.
My son is a criminal justice major at SJSU. He tells me that officers always want to be cordial when contacting people, for several reasons. One, it is the right thing to do and it helps build rapport. Second, you get compliance from the people you contact and they may be more apt to "spill the beans" if they are doing something illegal.
Penal Code 835a states:
Any peace officer who has reasonable cause to believe that
the person to be arrested has committed a public offense may use
reasonable force to effect the arrest, to prevent escape or to
overcome resistance.
A peace officer who makes or attempts to make an arrest need not
retreat or desist from his efforts by reason of the resistance or
threatened resistance of the person being arrested; nor shall such
officer be deemed an aggressor or lose his right to self-defense by
the use of reasonable force to effect the arrest or to prevent escape
or to overcome resistance.
The officers had lawfully detained Hopkins. Being detained, HOPKINS had the legal obligation to identify himself. Refusing to identify himself resulted in him obstructing and delaying the officer's duty / investigation. This amounted to HOPKINS being in violation of PC 148- resisting arrest. PC 835a says that an officer may use a reasonable amount of force to affect the arrest, overcome resistance, and to prevent escape of a person to be arrested. The second part of PC835a says that an officer does not need to back down or retreat from a resisting suspect.
When HOPKINS put his hands on the officers, he threatened their safety. Per the definition of PC 835a, the officers using a reasonable amount of force to take HOPKINS into custody was LEGAL and JUSTIFIED.
HOPKINS was solely responsible for what happened to him. He just should have cooperated with the police, identified himself, and he would have just been released from the scene. But he played the race card, refused to cooperate, and he forced the officers to use force on him to take him into custody. HOPKINS' inability to be courteous and cooperate opened the superficial wound of racial tension in our town, and scarred the good reputation of the Palo Alto Police Department.
Although I am not black, I am a minority. I do not know what it is like to be constantly harassed by the police. However, if an officer stopped me because I WAS breaking the law or doing something suspicious (having a tail light out, running stop signs, making illegal turns, and parking my car behind a bike shop that was recently burglarized late in the evening without a good explanation for being there) I would not default to the race card and charge the officer of racial profiling. I would rather thank them for doing their job.
You should always listen to Your Mother.
a resident of South of Midtown
on Nov 17, 2008 at 10:31 pm
Did you catch CBS news last night? They were reporting on the chief's comments and then the Saturday downtown attack. They showed the sketch and described him in every way, except the color of his skin. Is a description now racial profiling?
a resident of Professorville
on Nov 19, 2008 at 1:33 am
You can look at the sketch and pretty much determine the race,....
since that is what you are so concerned about.
I have this image of the CBS News describing the suspect as black, then once (or twice) "and did we tell you he is black?".
And that being more to your liking.
Glad someone is riding herd on this though.
a resident of Midtown
on Nov 20, 2008 at 10:50 am
So what is a reasonable police response to crime then? To ignore the color of the skin of the suspects ? How else do you suggest to match the suspects? By height and weight?
a resident of Palo Alto Hills
on Nov 22, 2008 at 9:00 am
Some Questions to Ponder
Is the Chief of Police the chief policymaker for the PAPD? Did the chief institute a policy of racially profiling African Americans? Could her behavior be construed as a Monell violation (Monell v Dept of Social Security SCC)? Is the Chief (not a line officer) responsible for a policy practice and procedure that violates the constitutional rights of a class of people namely African Americans? Now whether the city could be sued by the NAACP, ACLU or other organizations (which protect the civil liberties of all citizens) is something we will have to wait and see. By her departure has the problem been "eliminated"? So was this decision enacted to promote diversity and civil rights of liberal minded Palo Alto or was it about just plain $$$$$? Is it cheaper to pay her off than to keep her on? Did the powers that be breath a sigh when the chief "voluntarily" decided to depart with her platnum parachute?. Have things changed in Palo Alto? What about the officers she protected throughout her career? Is this change we can believe in? You be the judge!
a resident of Evergreen Park
on Nov 23, 2008 at 11:45 am
i think this whole issue is a sad distortion of a miscommunication. EPA has always been a hotbed, back to the days when it was known as "whiskey gulch". E. O'Keefe was a street that was plagued by violent crime, burglaries, and shootings. Most of the offenders in crimes that I know of could be described as a "black male", with additional supporting details. Just as someone could be described as a "white male" with brown hair, blue eyes, wearing etc etc... I just don't see this as a case of a "you people" profiling.
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Dec 3, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Palo Alto has changed sooooooo much from when I was a kid growing up 30 years ago. Back then there were *more* kids from EPA attending PA schools, more friendships between EPA and PA fostered through sports such as football, basketball and baseball, and, I'd argue, more African Americans living in PA. We all knew back then that crimes in PA were disproportionally committed by African Americans from EPA, and we focused more energy on helping solve the economic issues behind EPA-driven crime.
Now, the enlightened PA citizens frown when the perfectly rational association between African American skin color and certain street crimes are made, and we let PA's police chief be trampled on by everyone when she's trying to protect us. At the same time, these same 'enlightened' PA citizens never go to EPA, have no friends in EPA, and work at companies that barely even employ a single African American.
I understand now why people who didn't know PA before 1995 call it Shallow Alto: all you people who moved in brought your extreme liberalism and your hipocrisy with you. Now, kindly please leave.
a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 6, 2008 at 4:53 pm
This is an intelligent article. It encloses human nature and social needs. The police want to protect by using the best information they have while NOT hurting on any group. Yet I believe the police have been hancuffed in their ability to protect us ALL. Lawsuits, automatically perceived bigotry, the rights ABOVE those victimized, and lets not forget - the fear of payback - ther are over 57 gangs with more firepire that than the police hiding beneath that they use 14 year olds to kill.
This may be the challenge of those who don't want to victomized against those who will.
The police and law stand between -but the fear of being suied and the governments cowerdice my mean the death of officer after officer while we ignore it all.
a resident of The Greenhouse
on Dec 7, 2008 at 6:53 am
Time to take off the kid gloves and let the cops do thier job. To much BS to cut through. The bleeding heart liberals are the main problem behind all this hoo haw. The cops know who's who.
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Mar 27, 2013 at 7:58 pm
PAPD profiling .... Pleeazzze It's because of this usual liberal PA crap I can't wait for N. Korea or the Muslims to nuke us...
On second thought.....
Just think housing will become cheap and extremely affordable We won't have to worry about ABAG or low income housing/High density housing cause it will all be low income housing. All the weak idiots in this town will be dead leaving only the strong to survive and flourish, 50 dollar a year will buy a lot of beer and our future will be so bright will have to wear shades. Things will be going great and it will only get better.
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Elk Mountains > South Maroon Peak > Climber's Log
South Maroon Peak Climber's Log
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|South Ridge
Date Climbed: Sep 22, 2007
|Technically easy: Low third.
Physically demanding: its gunna kick your butt.
Fun route finding: If you're off route the solution is almost always to the left (or up and to the left).
Dangerous: It's very loose and a rock kicked off the ridge will roll 2000' before it stops. Put your brain bucket on as soon as you leave the main trail.
And four mountain goats joined us on the summit. Fun day! Fun peak!
|Posted Sep 24, 2007 7:15 pm
|South Ridge and Traverse
Date Climbed: Sep 2, 2007
|With Andy. Quite fun.
There's gravel everywhere along the route, but the climbing rock itself wasn't bad at all. We stayed damn-near true to the crest along the entire traverse, car-to-car'ing the route in 9.5 hours. Solo'd everything.
Oh yeah, route-finding our way off of North Maroon wasn't nearly as bad as we were led to believe. There's an obvious trail for 90% of it.
Talked to a couple of guys who'd done the traverse the day before. Took them 15.5 hours in what they described as perfect weather. Not sure how that's possible.
|Posted Sep 4, 2007 10:20 am
|South Ridge
Date Climbed: Sep 1, 2007
|Great day on a fun route. Bailed on the traverse due to heavy cloud build up early in the AM. Turned out to be a bluebird day...oh well. Two days later on Pyramid under the same conditions the thunderstorms built up as I expected two days earlier.
|Posted Sep 3, 2007 10:51 pm
|S Ridge and Traverse
Date Climbed: Aug 31, 2007
|What a slog. Glad to have knocked this summit off - may I never set foot on that mountain again.
|Posted Sep 1, 2007 3:37 pm
|Woodie Hopper
|South Ridge and Traverse
Date Climbed: Aug 26, 2007
|Steep scree slopes up to South Maroon's ridge at ~13,300ft. Made it to the summit by 8:30. Climbed with Dave and Steve Donaldson. Great and long day.
|Posted Aug 27, 2007 12:26 am
|The word "failure" is relative....
Date Climbed: Aug 19, 2007
|2,800 vertical feet in just over a mile... OUCH. A melt-down at the saddle (at 44 14ers completed, the tough ones are getting to me). Tired from our great ascent of Pyramid the day before. 10:20am, RAIN a'comin:-( Decided to bail 300 feet from the summit as we were slower than we thought and didn't want to be caught in a thunderstorm. Rain let up 20 minutes later, but we were already dropped 600 feet (that had taken us an hour to climb). Bummer. Continued down. Don't need to take my chances. I love my husband more than any mountain summit. Result of this loose, nasty, exposed mountain? We don't want to ever go back. We now have a new "goal" of hitting 50 14ers instead of finishing all 55... may change our minds if we have a brain lapse!:-O
|Posted Aug 21, 2007 10:01 pm
|Standard Route
Date Climbed: Aug 18, 2007
|Climbed the standard route with Shanahan96, Jamie Nellis and Denalibound. The ascent had us a little side tracked as we lost the trail up the face in the dark and followed a misleading cairn to a wrong ledge when on the upper mountain. The route was much easier to follow on descent though, and I would say that once you know the route it is actually kind of enjoyable. The ridge crest at the finish was delightfully solid and had some great scrambling. Bailed on the traverse because I didn't trust the clouds.
|Posted Aug 19, 2007 12:31 pm
|Long Day
Date Climbed: Aug 11, 2007
|Weather was perfect all day. Completed the traverse as well.
|Posted Aug 12, 2007 10:59 am
|Perfect Day
Date Climbed: Aug 24, 2006
|Did south to north traverse. Epic day. Took rope but never used it. Sketchiest part was the downclimb into the notch, otherwise not too bad. Could easily be made more dicey by forcing another line.
|Posted Aug 1, 2007 6:09 pm
|South Ridge
Date Climbed: Jul 25, 2007
|Questionable weather all day. Too much ice/hail build-up on the traverse to make any attempt at the North Peak. Cool mountain though! The downclimb on the east side completely sucked!
|Posted Jul 26, 2007 10:29 pm
|Bell Cord and the Traverse
Date Climbed: Jul 4, 2007
|What a way to spend the 4th. 2am start got up the Cord around 7am. The climbing wasn't as rotten as I had expected, and I rather enjoyed it, plus the scenery is awesome.
|Posted Jul 6, 2007 12:42 am
|Dan Dalton
|First time seeing the bells...
Date Climbed: Jun 24, 2007
|ever, and did an awesome traverse. We did the Bell Cord Couloir, and I have a feeling this is much quikcer and more fun than the standard route up the South Bell.
|Posted Jun 24, 2007 2:42 am
|Peak experience
Date Climbed: Oct 16, 1999
|N peak first, traversed something besides path of least resistance, solo, no rope, glad to be in one piece after that.
|Posted Mar 17, 2007 6:48 am
|Greg Iafeliece
|From the North
Date Climbed: Aug 9, 2004
|Traversed from North. Yeah, should have brought rope. Beautiful weather. Thankful to be with someone familiar with the routefinding on these peaks. Hope to come back in the winter someday.
|Posted Feb 18, 2007 12:29 am
|Rick F
|Graand Teton
Date Climbed: Jul 8, 2000
|Climed 4 times once in winter not fun in winter .
Exum ridge route start early very early to avoid traffic.
Greaviews bring marromot pika poof food container or lose all your food like the guys near me did on a nice summer climb
|Posted Oct 24, 2006 3:28 pm
|Rick F
|Pramid Peak
Date Climbed: Jul 15, 2006
|Climbed a few times same route frpom Maroon lake with afew small varaitions .
|Posted Oct 24, 2006 3:25 pm
|After North Maroon...
Date Climbed: Sep 12, 2006
|Did the traverse from North to South. Rapped the crux, negotiated steep, exposed and snow covered climbing. Glad to get them out of the way.
|Posted Sep 15, 2006 10:15 pm
|South ridge/traverse to North
Date Climbed: Jul 29, 2006
|Dayhiked the Bells, starting around 3am. The grunt to the south ridge is brutal, although there was more of a trail than expected. The routefinding on the backside was a little more challenging, but not bad.
|Posted Sep 15, 2006 6:29 pm
|WoW! part 2
Date Climbed: Sep 12, 2006
|Mike and I doing the North to South traverse I was scared from the Bel Cord and on, the whole north face of the South Bell was covered with slippery wet snow and ice, I was wearing Trail Runners and my feet were soaked. Route finding here became almost epic and I ended up following goat tracks mostly to the summit. I slipped almost to my fate more than once here. Finally summiting the South Bell and taking photo's I could not catch my breath until about 20 minutes after the summit because I was still nervous of everything we had gone through. The descent was close to Epic as well. I took the wrong gully down and had more than one class 5 move to negotiate to get back to the main trail. i had some bowling ball sized rocks zinging past my head for about 45 minutes, I slipped and busted my ass more than once.. It turned out to be a very long day..
This is what climbing is all about though right?? HELL YA!
|Posted Sep 13, 2006 5:09 pm
|Route Climbed: South Ridge
Date Climbed: Jul 25, 2006
|Left Aspen at 3AM. Great day. Awesome Climb. I loved the scrambling and route choices. Tons of cairns. Made friends with the local mountain goats. Long and tedious descent. I can't wait to get Pyramid and N Maroon.
|Posted Aug 5, 2006 10:05 pm

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A Timaru High Court hearing set for May on whether Aorangi Securities or the Hubbards own $60 million of disputed assets is key to whether investors in the failed group get most of their money back or only a third of the funds, the statutory managers say.
The Aorangi investors have so far received 15 cents in the dollar, or $14.5 million of the $96 million owed.
If the High Court rules the 'introduced assets' belong to Aorangi, the investors could get "almost all of their investment capital back." If Jean Hubbard wins, the total payout may be 35 cents in the dollar, or $34 million, statutory managers Richard Simpson, Trevor Thornton and Graeme McGlinn of Grant Thornton say in their 13th report.
The introduced assets were shares and loans in farm owning companies, partnerships and commercial entities introduced to Aorangi by the late businessman Allan Hubbard and wife Jean between April 2009 and March 2010. Jean Hubbard claims the assets belong to her and her husband's estate.
As a result of the pending court hearing, funds from the sale of any introduced assets are being held in escrow pending the outcome.
By the court's direction, Jean Hubbard's legal costs are being at least partly funded by Aorangi itself and the latest managers' report says that has amounted to $85,000. The money must be repaid if the managers win, they say.
The managers have recovered some $20 million of the $40 million in estimated gross recoveries of Aorangi's third-party loans.
Grant Thornton's fees for the administration of Aorangi rose to $3.6 million as at Dec. 21, bringing total costs to $7.1 million including legal advice. That's up from the $2.99 million accrued to Grant Thornton and total costs of $5.7 million as at the end of August last year.
Costs related to the Te Tua Charitable Trust were $680,140 for Grant Thornton out of a total $1.1 million.
The court case is set for May 20 having been postponed last year at the request of Grant Thornton after it found additional documents in storage related to the case.
Former Commerce Minister Simon Power appointed Grant Thornton as statutory managers of the Hubbards and various entities in mid-2010.


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US Court Denies Halt on Pipeline Set to Replace Keystone XL Northern Half
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By Steve Horn • Friday, November 22, 2013 - 12:37
The ever-wise Yogi Berra once quipped "It's like déjà vu all over again," a truism applicable to a recent huge decision handed down by the United States District Court for the District of Columbia.
A story covered only by McClatchy News' Michael Doyle, Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson shot down Sierra Club and National Wildlife Federation's (NWF) request for an immediate injunction in constructing Enbridge's Flanagan South tar sands pipeline in a 60-page ruling.
That 600-mile long, 600,000 barrels per day proposed line runs from Flanagan, Illinois - located in the north central part of the state - down to Cushing, Oklahoma, dubbed the "pipeline crossroads of the world." The proposed 694-mile, 700,000 barrels per day proposed Transcanada Keystone XL northern half also runs to Cushing from Alberta, Canada and requires U.S. State Department approval, along with President Barack Obama's approval.
Because Flanagan South is not a border-crossing line, it doesn't require the State Department or Obama's approval. If Keystone XL's northern half's permit is denied, Flanagan South - along with Enbridge's proposal to expand its Alberta Clipper pipeline, approved by Obama's State Department during Congress' recess in August 2009 - would make up that half of the pipeline's capacity and then some.


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A Dark Find part one
Book by: AndyP
Status: Finished
Genre: Fantasy
Chapter1 (v.1) - A Dark Find part one
The whistling of the wind was getting progressively worse, building with each wave of noise before drifting away again. It forced its way through the holes and chipped corners of the wooden shutters like water through a sieve, rattling them on their hinges before letting them rest again for a few precious seconds.
During those brief moments of calm, a second noise could be heard; the steady regular sound of water hitting something hard and metallic. Drip! Followed shortly by Ping! The howling of the wind built almost rhythmically, drowning out the sound of the water, beginning low and building quickly to a high pitched shriek, coupling itself musically with the rattling of the shutters and the banging of wood on stone.
There was a third noise that came much more sporadically. It rumbled and snorted, and occasionally spluttered before falling silent for minutes at a time. Occasionally it would be followed by a low grown and the sound of wet lips smacking together.
All of this could have been the backdrop for some terrible dream, or some waking nightmare for the boy lying there in the dark. He supposed it was more likely to be the latter of the two. In fact he was quite sure he could live with it being the dreadful introduction to some horrific dream that tore him blissfully from his sanity. At least then he might be waking up to something different, something new, or not at all.
He lay there, uncomfortable and unmoving; listening to the orchestra of noise that, he decided, was a pretty accurate representation of his life. The broken shutters that needed mending continued their rattling and banging again. He lay there as the room paused, waiting for the sound of water leaking from somewhere and hitting a pile of useless junk, followed shortly by the deep rumbling snore of his father as he slept fitfully close by.
He followed the sounds around the room as they cycled through their song sheet in turn and let out a deep and heartfelt sigh.
It was still a long way from dawn, and the room was so utterly black. He could hold his hand in front of his face and barely see its outline. He knew that because he kept doing it, wiggling the fingers. His hands ached badly from work, which was partly the reason for his lack of sleep, the other part being his dread of morning arriving. Being a digger was all about hard work, unless you were the one who was paying for it to be done. All you needed was a shovel, a pick, dusting tools and some smaller trowels to pick away at the ground carefully if the need arose. The rest came from your back, your legs, and your youth. Eventually it broke and bent all of those things.
He had thought some time ago that he was lucky to work with his father, and that he at least had a job to go to. But that was some time ago. What had it been now, ten years or so? He thought back to the first day he had gone to work with his father. He'd been around eight or nine. He listened again to the wind forcing itself against the shutters and shifted uncomfortably on his mattress, trying to get comfortable as his thoughts drifted.
The choices as he had grown up had been few, they were for everyone. Work was generally manual labour, unless you were skilled in something or scholarly in persuasion. He had never considered himself particularly skilled in anything, nor was he overly bright like some. He wasn't stupid, not by a long way, but books didn't hold any interest for him.
Some of his friends had obvious skills, ones that were apparent to all and sundry. An image of a young lad called Dale flashed into his mind, with his blonde tufty hair and tanned skin, athletic and strong. He could run for miles, could pick up a stone and throw it at anything and you could be sure he would hit it dead centre! Not exactly important, but it was certainly impressive when you were young. He'd gone on to join the local regiment, where he was no doubt throwing more than stones, and possibly running very quickly whilst doing it.
A girl he'd been friendly with, what was her name…something…with the dark hair and freckles, had been skilled at stitching and sewing. Not something he'd want for himself, but she'd been good at it. She would produce the most marvellous designs on bits of cloth found spare at home. He could still see her delicate fingers working, a slight smile on her lips.
He'd even given her one of his shirts and begged her to stitch something on it, something impressive. It had come back no less than a day later, with a dragon on the shoulder! With wings spread wide and flames pouring from its terrifying mouth, it had instantly become his favourite piece of clothing. He remembered walking sideways for days, sticking his shoulder forward so people could see it clearly.
Veronica! How had he forgotten her name? Oh yes, that was right, because she'd moved on some time later and found a life for herself. He couldn't remember what, but he was pretty sure it was better than anything he was doing.
Mentally listing the people he'd known when he was growing up and what they were doing now wasn't helping his mood. They'd all drifted away like ships from a desert island, leaving him stood on the beach holding his coconuts, or more precisely his fathers. His faced screwed up at that thought and he immediately shoved it from his mind. He didn't need that sort of image at this time of night.
The wind howled again. His father had gone silent. Was he…? No there it was, a sound like someone trying to clear their nose into their throat.
Hope. He'd definitely had hope since then that things would get better. But slowly it had become increasingly obvious that his life wasn't like that. It reminded him of religion. Hadn't Danny gone on to be a priest?
As far as he was concerned, religion offered nothing substantial, but endless rewards if you just…kept…at it! No one ever seemed able to confirm these rewards, but you heard things. A guy down in the southern counties had found some sort of silverware from the something-century and he was now lying on his back being fed grapes and drinking wine from the profits. Or a group of diggers had uncovered a lost city and all its riches, complete with deeds of ownership and free drinks all round!
It always happened somewhere far away, to someone else. But it kept people digging, because one day it would happen to them too, right? Wrong!
His father was currently digging a site in a valley a couple of hours walk away from the village where they were staying. A conversation one night in tavern, in another faceless village they'd been digging near had resulted in them moving yet again on the promise of finding something shiny in the ground.
He remembered thinking at the time, what about the current dig? What happened to finding something there? He hadn't bothered asking though, just packed up his things and followed his excitable father down the road.
Ten years, nearly a decade of his life! He'd dug so many holes in the ground he may as well have been a farmer, or a gravedigger. At least he would have yielded something for his efforts. Ah that was it, he did have a skill; he was skilled at digging holes…
He continued to lay there in the darkness, bored of listening to his own thoughts, until sleep washed over him and took him to a faraway place, where he dreamt of excavating, spades and finding nothing in the ground.
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backward and forward both run to need may they ,faster run to are computers If
Brian Hayes
An Unturing Machine
Although erasing takes energy, Landauer found that not all computer
operations are subject to the three-zeptojoule stricture. The
simplest counterexample is the logical NOT gate, which inverts the
state of a single bit, changing 1 to 0 or 0 to 1. No information is
lost in this process; the state of the bit is completely known both
before and after. Thus there is no fundamental reason for a NOT gate
to be dissipating energy. Present-day implementations of the NOT
function may very well produce just as much heat as erasing a memory
cell, but that energy loss is not required by the laws of thermodynamics.
A notable property of the NOT function is its
reversibility. When bit A is transformed into NOT
A, all that's needed to undo the action and restore the
original state is a second application of the NOT
function—(NOT (NOT A)) = A. The erasure of a
bit is quite different; it can't be undone because there's no way of
knowing whether the previous state was a 0 or a 1.
Functions such as AND are also logically irreversible. A two-input
AND gate produces an output of 1 if and only if both inputs are 1;
otherwise the output is 0. Thus if the output happens to be 1, we
know that both inputs were also 1, but when the output is 0, we
can't distinguish between three alternative pairs of inputs (0 and
1, 1 and 0, 0 and 0). A similar analysis applies to OR. At a higher
level, standard arithmetic operations such as +, -, x and ÷
also throw away information and are therefore irreversible. Take the
equation 5 + 3 = 8; given the left side, it's easy to regenerate the
right, but you can't go the other way.
Landauer showed that only the logically irreversible steps in a
computation carry an unavoidable energy penalty. If we could compute
entirely with reversible operations, there would be no lower limit
on energy consumption. We could run a supercomputer on a watch battery.
The question remained: Is it possible to build a fully capable
computer out of nothing but logically reversible components?
Initially, Landauer himself thought the answer was no. After all,
most of the familiar building blocks of computers, such as AND and
OR gates, are irreversible devices. Then in 1973 Charles H. Bennett,
now of IBM Research, came up with a remarkably direct demonstration
that any computation by an irreversible computer can also be done reversibly.
Bennett presented his idea in terms of a Turing machine, the
abstract model of a computer that reads, writes and erases symbols
on a tape. Erasures make the standard Turing machine irreversible,
so Bennett added a second tape, called the history tape, where the
machine keeps notes about erased or overwritten data. At the end of
a computation, the final answer can be copied onto yet another tape
for safekeeping. Then the machine is put in reverse gear, and with
the help of the history tape, all the operations are undone, one by
one, until the system returns to its initial condition.
The latter half of this operating cycle strikes many people as
bizarrely counterproductive. How can you save energy by running the
machine for twice as long, regardless of whether it's going forward
or backward? Wouldn't it be better just to throw away the extra
tape? Experience with ordinary machines in everyday life does not
prepare us to answer these questions. When you drive a car 10 miles
down the road, you can't recover the fuel you burned by backing up
over the same route. But suppose the car had a history tape that
kept track of all the molecules involved in the combustion process;
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a little more than 24 hours later and the tank is mostly clear. the cichlids seem to be loving the plants i got (50% off at the LFS, paid 10 bux woo).
pretty sure i got some fox-something (leaf?) and a few other things. ill take more pix in the AM when the tank should be nice and clear.
dirt added. sand washed but not put in. water is still a bit cloudy, but has cleared up considerably since i put the dirt in. going to do a 50% water change here in a few, see if i can clear it up a bit more.
ended up with about a 2" layer of soil thats going to have some sand on it here in the next 6 hours.
alright. went and picked up 2 bags of this miracle grow organic soil. it has no cow poopies in it but has 'pasteurized poultry waste', which is chicken poop im wagering.
am taking a video of everything (forgive the auction hunters in the background, i need some noise in the background and ive been meaning to catch up on it) and will report back once i have the soil and sand in the tank!
pool filter sand on top of dirt should be fine. Just watch out for "compacting". I'm using play sand, which is a bit finer IIRC. You'll want to poke the sand every now and then, and be careful not to poke to far.
In my 55G all the pots were topped with sand or old substrate. It's my "test" tank to figure out how plants grow/etc so I could come up with a good aquascape for the 125G.
What I'd recommend (from experience) is to put the soil in water. All the peat + woody items will float to the top. scoop that out and keep what sinks. I experimented with keeping this stuff in vs. sifting it out. I had a few pots where the sand cover "exploded" when submersed. Nothing worse than cleaning up the tank, but luckily the pots were removable. Can't imaging if this was my main tank! Oh, also remember that if the soil has peat, and the peat gets into the water column then it *will* stain the water (which can be attractive). The sand cap should help prevent this.
Also, you may want to put the sand in a pillowcase and spray it with a hose. This should get rid of any fine sand.
Here's my 55G with pots
For the 125G, it's really not ready for a journal. I'm still futzing with it, but I promise I have pictures for when it's matured in 6 months.
Finally, you should check out the "Fraternity of Dirt" group here. Everyone in that group is using dirt substrates capped with something. I'm sure one of them is using PFS rather than play sand, so they might know better if there are any gotchas with PFS.
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I'm running miracle gro organic potting soil below sand in my 125G. I've done it in pots in my 55G, and it worked *really* well, saw some amazing growth on the plants. It's a bit cheaper than "for aquarium" soil (similarly to how hydroponic submersible pumps are cheaper than 'for aquarium' pumps).
I'd highly recommend the soil. Make sure you get *organic* since some of the chemicals they use in non-organic products can be harmful.
do you have a link to your 125? did you have to do anything special with the soil before adding sand over it??
going to try this in a 2.5gallon i have as well, put a beta in it and put it on my desk. will take pix tonight and start a journal of it as well.
I'm running miracle gro organic potting soil below sand in my 125G. I've done it in pots in my 55G, and it worked *really* well, saw some amazing growth on the plants. It's a bit cheaper than "for aquarium" soil (similarly to how hydroponic submersible pumps are cheaper than 'for aquarium' pumps).
I'd highly recommend the soil. Make sure you get *organic* since some of the chemicals they use in non-organic products can be harmful.
Instead of running 2 HOB's maybe go with a Sun Sun/Aquatop Canister? Maybe a CF-300, it has good reviews and you can customize your media to your liking (it only comes with foam) giving you better filtration overall.
As for the Floramax, make sure you rinse it well, I didn't do a good job on mine and it left residues all over my tank when I was setting it up.
Good Luck!
low tech tank, looking for suggestions
pretty sure my tank is low tech so i thought i would start a thread here. i've been doing reef tanks since '00, so i know all about testing and upkeeping of more complex fish tanks. my current setup is as follows:
35 gallon tank (36x12x18)
penguin 200 filter
AC 5-15 filter
150w heater (tank is at 80.1F right now, hovers between 80-82F)
24" bubble wand (thinking about removing it honestly)
30# black gravel (picked up 50# play sand, going to wash tomorrow).
4 x 18watt CFL bulbs (packaging says 55w equiv), underside of canopy painted white
im planning on ordering 30# of http://www.petsmart.com/product/inde...uctId=11147295 and use it as my base, then cover it with the sand.
since my tap water is naturally hard and has a decent ph (8.0), i am going to do a cichlid tank but i wanted it planted this time. im looking for suggestions on what to do and what not to do.
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These are sew cute - Halloween is my favorite!
Your projects are gorgeous... and you are getting me into a holiday mood! Love your colorful fabric choices too.
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Todd Akin's comment denying that pregnancy can result from rape because "[i]f it's legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down," not only betrayed an insensitivity to all rape victims and an astonishing ignorance about reproductive biology, it also revealed a willful denial of what has been confirmed beyond a doubt — that rape was used, to devastating effect, in recent campaigns of genocide, as a form of "ethnic cleansing." That he is still running for Senate shows that our national conversation about rape has a long, long way to go.
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After four months of probing, lawmakers finally figure out who is responsible for approving the scanning and retaining of documents as citizens get a driver's license.
JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. - State lawmakers have identified the person responsible for giving permission to scan and retain personal documents at licensing bureaus. This was the second day a House committee questioned high-level members of Gov. Jay Nixon's staff.
The committee is tasked to find why documents like birth certificates and mortgage statements were needed to get a driver's license. Lawmakers believe the changes were done to comply with the federal law, Real ID. But Missouri opted out of it in 2009.
Former Department of Revenue director Alana Barragan-Scott said it was her decision to change procedures. She says the changes were never in compliance with Real ID. What she simply wanted to happen was to enhance driver's license security and prevent further fraud.
"The directive was given to implement the new system," Barragan-Scott said as she was questioned by committee members. "The buck stopped on my desk, so [I gave permission]."
Who was responsible was just one question lawmakers have had difficulties getting an answer to for about the past four months. Now, they need to know why the changes were made, because they're not buying the former director's explanation. Barragan-Scott says the changes may look similar to requirements of Real ID, but that's not the case. She claims the law prohibiting Missouri from complying with the federal law doesn't bar them from adding extra security.
Lawmakers were baffled because Barragan-Scott has been the only one able to answer the majority of their questions.
"As for a formal game plan, my department, I, my staff, no one sat down and specifically wrote, you know 'Here's what we do now,'" Barragan-Scott said.
Lawmakers are concerned about what, if any, control the governor has in any of his departments. Barragan-Scott says she didn't talk to the governor about the changes. Lawmakers are starting to question how much the governor doesn't know.
"He's either totally misinformed, he's totally disconnected or he's playing dumb," Rep. Don Phillips, R-Kimberling City, said.
Committee members will take all information they gather in these hearings and come up with suggestions to prevent something like this from happening again. Nixon signed a bill in July to stop the scanning of all documents within the Department of Revenue.


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When you walk up to someone, raise your hand like Hitler does to distract them and nazi march style kick them in the shin.
Dude I was walking down the hall and that new german kid walked up to me, stuck his hand in the air, yelled Heil Hitler, then kicked me in my fucking shin. It was a hitler Kick. Fucking Kraut.
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Yes, I have learned to re- read my posts before posting but a few funny words still slip through. Sometimes I get quite a chuckle out of what shows up.
Yep.... my electronic devices think they know what I want to say better than I do.... I hate it.
I post here, from my computer. However, I've had lots of "fun" texts, with my cell phone. Some phones allow the option of not having auto-correct . . . but then you miss all the fun!
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I don't have an iPhone, but I thought I'd read somewhere that you can change a setting and turn it off?
don't have a phone, but I had to turn off that on Google, it was driving me nuts. I am the boss of my machines, not the other way around!! I keep telling myself that. Now if I could get the darn microwave to stop beeping at me when it is done.
Just Google "turn off autocorrect on (your brand name) phone" - either Wikihow or Ehow will have instructions.
Ironically, I use Google email and they are changing it, including eliminating Spell Check, which was not automatic, but helpful for someone who never took a typing class.
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LOL - so funny - that explains a lot! I was wondering about why some posters posted what they did! I have a cheap cell phone - DH and I have prepaid minutes and even text messages cost but we don't use them for "chatting". Haven't even learned how to text. I guess those smart phones could be called smart-donkey phones (trying to keep it clean).
I very seldom charge up my phone. If I get a call I don't always hear it. We work in a metal building and can't get a signal. It also sets down in a hole type place.
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You can easily walk to the Duomo cathedral, Uffizi Gallery and Santa Croce in 10 minutes or less. The area is live and surrounded by shops, museums, Italian restaurants, wine bars and a süpermarket.
The main station Santa Maria Novella is in 15-20 minutes walking distance. Ideal for the ones who want to explore the ancient streets of Florence by foot.
Composed of a double bedroom with ensuite bathroom (no shower) , livingroom with a single sofa bed, kitchenette, dining table with 3 seats, main bathroom with a bathtub.
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The apartment is more or less as appears in the pictures. Since the only window faces the bottom of a lightwell, you need electrical light at all times. The location is prime, and the size perfect for singles or a couple. We travelled with one 1-year-old, and that was ok too, but felt a bit cramped at times.
I had two major problems with this apartment. Firstly, the man who came to give us the key obviously knew nothing about the place. He did not even know which key went where, or behind which door the apartment was. He also spoke very little English, so we couldn't ask him anything. As a result, it took until the next day before we found the water heater and figured out how to turn it on. Secondly, the place was quite dirty as we arrived. I had to wash up every single thing in the kitchen to feel comfortable using it. The bath and toilet had been sanitized, though, and linens and towels were clean.
All in all we were quite satisfied with our stay in this apartment, and would definitely recommend it to someone who wants to be in the middle of things, but doesn't plan to spend all that much time "at home".
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Appartement très agréable et très bien équipé. Petit bémol, le quartier est très bruyant : installation des premiers marchands dès 6 h00 du matin et désinstallation jusqu'à 21 h 00, puis passage des machines de nettoyage jusqu'à 22 h 00. Heureusement les fenêtres sont isolées et la climatisation fonctionne bien. L'accueil de Stéphano (le propriétaire) est très chaleureuse. Un séjour très agréable!
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