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Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 18-35mm f/3.5-4.5G ED review: high-performance update to portable ultra-wide zoomBy Kevin Carter - Tuesday June 18 2013 Lens Review
Nikon's update to the film era AF Zoom-Nikkor 18-35mm f/3.5-4.5D IF-ED boasts an enviable spec, including built-in silent wave AF motor and re-designed optical construction with two ED glass elements. Read on to see how well it performs on the 36-Mpix Nikon D800.
With a sweeping 74 to 29 degrees horizontal angle of view, this $750 full-frame ultra-wide zoom is an update to the compact yet film-era D-series model of the same focal range and focal ratio. As a G-series lens it will come as no surprise to learn the aperture ring is now controlled electronically from the camera. Internally, improvements to the optical design include two ED glass- and three aspherical-elements (up from one of each previously) bringing the total to 12 elements in eight groups. This lens also has an ultrasonic type AF motor (SWM in Nikon parlance) allowing easy switching between manual focusing and AF while also adding compatibility with recent DX-format camera bodies, such as the D5200 and D3200. As the equivalent to a 28-55mm on these cameras, this lens isn't quite as compelling but it may be a useful combination nonetheless.
Image quality evaluation
Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 18-35mm f/3.5-4.5G ED versus competition
Further readings for the Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 18-35mm f/3.5-4.5G ED review: high-performance update to portable ultra-wide zoom
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Added by Jagganath | January 07 , 2014
Better than the 17-35?
I hope this is accurate as the old 18-35mm was easily the worst lens I have ever owned. I tried two, both from different batches and each managed to grow light blobs on highlights! Parked cars looked as though their headlights were on and resolution, even on a D200 was sepulchral. Now you are claiming the new G lens betters under all use the old 17-35mm f2.8, but the old 17-35mm f2.8 was said to better all the primes at the focal lengths it covered. Here I note the resolution you get from it, as with the 17-50mm AFS f2.8 Nikkor is dreadful - practically everywhere and all the time, especially as you go further into the longer focal lengths. Am I crazy, but maybe just possibly this is due to focus errors?? Are you using live view. Are you, IN FACT testing all these different machines as you claim, with every single lens, or merely extrapolatuing sharpness and other scores from a basic actual reading- as gas and electricity meter readers estimate performance??
What makes me suspicious is that my 17-35mm lens is rather better than you tell me it is on a D800. Interestingly I am getting in an old 24-50mm f3.3-4.5 lens to use. Notably it is ignored these days, but it was, for 18 years Nikon's ONLY 24xxx zoom. Surely despite reports, it must be OK? as that is a very long time for the best-known manufacturer to produce only one model zoom.
I have also bought and returned 2 24-70mm lenses as they were only ever sharp in the middle due to field curvature. Even at f5.6-8 on a D800 they were a joke- and your test concurs only as far as chromatic aberration is concerned. Your tests do not reflect actual use- which is a shame as I am sure a practically bad lens might be bad at usual distances, yet fine in front of a test target.
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Re: Better than the 17-35?
The following describes our procedure for shooting Through Focus MTF Targets. For each measured focal length and aperture setting:
- Distance set to 35x the focal length
- Camera is positioned in the middle of a focusing rack; autofocus is initiated to test accuracy (in live view mode if possible)
- Autofocus switched OFF
- We then perform more than 40 shots on a long focusing rack, bracketing around the focus distance to find the optimal focusing position (without using autofocus). With this step, called "through focus", we are 100% certain to locate and record the optimum or "best focus" position for each lens, when mounted on the camera.
There are many sources of vibration that could impact sharpness / resolution measurement (i.e. mechanical shutter, mirror for vibration, tripod-type used etc …)
- To avoid problems arising from vibration we use a very specific protocol:
· Lab is in perfect darkness
· Heavy (72 kg) studio stand
· Remote control is used
· Step 1: mirror lock where possible
· Step 2: Timer: 2s
· Step 3: Time exposure 1s in total dark in order to get rid of the shutter vibrations
· Flash between 1/4000s and 1/1000s depending on the aperture, synchronized on the second curtain
· Electronic shutter where possible
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The DxOMark team
Added by parrysights | November 25 , 2013
Nikon 18-35 G - Field Experience
I have been using this new 18-35 G Nikkor for about a month now on a D600. The sharpness and contrast have been very good. But I have seen a bigger issue with flare, more than I'm used to seeing with other lenses. It just means I need to be more careful whenever I get even close to pointing towards the sun, or any bright point source light.
Added by jwalsh151 | June 07 , 2013
18-35 test coming?
I've been holding off on purchasing the AF-S Nikkor 18-35mm f/3.5-4.5G ED until you guys give it a test & review. Your last post said nothing before June, and being June, I was hoping that I'd see something this month. Any updates or projected test dates?
Thanks for all that you guys do. You're a tremendous resource that helps me and others make more informed decisions with our camera equipment.
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Re: 18-35 test coming?
Thanks for your interest in DxOMark.
The review should be published very soon, so stay tuned! :)
Best regards,
The DxOMark team
Added by D3street | May 01 , 2013
AF-S NIKKOR 18-35mm f/3.5-4.5G ED
Hi guys,
Any full review in sight for this lens?
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Re: AF-S NIKKOR 18-35mm f/3.5-4.5G ED
Thanks for your interest in DxO.
Yes, the review is in sight, but not before June! :)
Hope it won't be too long until then...
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The DxOMark team


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Town Square
Do fences make for better neighbors?
Original post made by Disgusted, Old Palo Alto, on May 11, 2012
I then indicated a sign we had on the lawn, about not allowing dogs to eliminate there, and told them that pee can damage a lawn. He snottily responded to me I should put signs all over the yard, or put up a fence, and that he couldn't see this particular one because it was on the other side of a car parked in the driveway. This, I know to be a lie, because I had seen him at my property before, but never got out of the house fast enough to catch his dog in the act. My elderly mom just put out a lot of money to finally have a new lawn put in after 38 years, and within TWO WEEKS there were THREE dog pee burn marks by the driveway. THOSE DON'T GO AWAY. WHEN YOU ALLOW YOUR DOG TO PEE ON SOMEONE ELSE'S LAWN, YOU ARE QUITE POSSIBLY CAUSING DAMAGE TO THAT PERSON'S PROPERTY!
I have two dogs, but I never allow them on our lawn, to do ANYTHING, much less pee, and I don't allow them on anyone else's. If they have to pee, we use the strip by the curb, and even then, when they begin to pee, I pull them away toward the street to finish. The confrontation ended with hurled insults on both sides, he and his wife because they were arrogant and rude and caught in the act, and me, because more than the dog peeing on the lawn, I was still shocked that people would be so blatantly rude as to ignore someone trying to simply TALK to them.
About two weeks ago I went next door to give something to my neighbor, and noticed a burn mark on the lawn on the exact spot where that dog peed. This, in spite of the fact that after the miserably rude couple had moved on, I immediately poured water on the spot, hoping to dilute the pee.
This morning I saw that woman walking her dog, again, the dog was on someone's lawn, just not ours. I stopped my car and again, attempted to talk to her, nicely at first. After she yet once again, ignored me, I continued to speak, and told her that her dog had damaged our lawn, and that we have changed our security camera's to focus on the lawn, and that if I saw her dog peeing on our lawn again, I would call the police and show them the picture. Again, no response.
It may seem like a small thing, but really, it isn't. The bigger picture is indicative of where Palo Alto is heading, a place of hostility and entitlement. Ironically, for one of the most educated cities in the state, it's sad that so many of the people in Palo Alto seem to not have been educated in manners or respect for others.
Just when I think I've reached an age where I've seen and experienced the best and worst of what people do, I am again surprised by the sheer self centered narcissistic arrogance of the people we used to call, 'neighbors.'
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 11, 2012 at 11:55 am
This is hardly news, sad to say. It is standard behavior of dog owners and dog walkers in our neighborhood, too. Our lawn has suffered a lot. But that's why they walk the dog - they don't want it to go on THEIR yard/lawn but in yours. Yeah, I get that it's for exercise. Why not set aside a portion of your yard for your dog (rather than crating all day - yuck). Or - why not go over to one of those city dog parks.
I really dislike that some people here don't respect others' property - for example, I work very hard on my garden and people just let their pets go (both ways, sometimes) on it. It is personally insulting to me since I try to take pride in my garden and having to pick up after others or try to repair the grass is extra work and looks bad. I don't have a dog but I would never dream of letting my pet wreck someone else's yard/garden.
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on May 11, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Yep. Both ways is right. Sunday morning I was awakened at 7am by the sound of a dog collar right under my bedroom window. I jumped out of bed to see a dog taking a dump in the landscaping that's right up against the house. I said to the woman walking the dog, "Don't let your dog crap on our lawn" and she quickly cleaned it up then said "Sorry, jeez!" At least she cleaned it up I suppose. I asked my mom if she wants a small fence along the sidewalk, she said no. I guess she has more faith in people than I do. We made a small part of our property into a dog run, and usually, before walking our dogs, we put them out there first. I'm sorry about your garden :( I'm a gardener too, and this is very discouraging.
a resident of Barron Park
on May 11, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Dear Disgusted,
You just started a new topic and posted a 700 word missive about dog pee. Not on your lawn, but somebody you love. In the interest of helping both you and the economy of Palo Alto, I'd suggest that you make your way downtown and purchase this item: Web Link
Now, can we please get back to reading more terrific posts by Atherton resident Peter Carpenter?
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on May 11, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Disgusted made the case that: The bigger picture is indicative of where Palo Alto is heading, a place of hostility and entitlement. Ironically, for one of the most educated cities in the state, it's sad that so many of the people in Palo Alto seem to not have been educated in manners or respect for others.
A response to that post was made by 'Joe':
Posted by Joe, a resident of the Barron Park neighborhood, 0 minutes ago
Dear Disgusted,
You just started a new topic and posted a 700 word missive about dog pee. Not on your lawn, but somebody you love. In the interest of helping both you and the economy of Palo Alto, I'd suggest that you make your way downtown and purchase this item: Web Link
Let us just call Joe, EXHIBIT "A".
Meanwhile, if we can safely assume that "Joe" can do more than look at pictures, here's a link for YOU Joe:
Web Link
a resident of Community Center
on May 11, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Dog fanciers are so numerous, it's like a plague.They expect you to love their animal even though you just want to be left alone.
I find little bags of dog-do in my compost bin.
Please stop it! Slobs, inconsiderate louts.
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on May 11, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Oh and "Joe"? Sylvan Learning Center would help you with your reading comprehension so you could begin to understand that I did not write a 700 word missive about just dog pee. You also wrongly assumed that the house belongs only to my mother. Apparently your lack of reading comprehension skills did not enable you to understand that the larger part of what I wrote about was more of a social issue, that of rudeness to others, which you promptly displayed as an accurate assessment by sending me a link to look at a bag of marbles, implying that I had lost mine. Perhaps, you should pick up your own marbles before castigating another.
a resident of Greenmeadow
on May 11, 2012 at 1:36 pm
We're wound pretty tight aren't we?
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on May 11, 2012 at 1:49 pm
We have had the same issue with dog owners allowing their animals to defecate in our front yard. Most will scurry off when confronted, but there are a few owners that I have had to speak to multiple times.
I truly do not understand why the owners think it is acceptable to use MY yard instead of their own as a dumping ground.
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 11, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Disgusted - While I agree that dogs should go in their own yard, sometimes they don't. Sometimes they are on a walk and half to pee - just like little kids. I have 2 dogs, they seldom "go" on a walk, but once in a while they do. We clean it up and throw it away (at home, throwing it in someone else's trash is gross. It's just grass, buy a piece of sod for $1.99 and replace the burn spots.
The fact that you chased these people down the street and with your car says to me that you have some anger issues you should work on.
Its just grass. Lighten up. Life is short.
a resident of Jordan Middle School
on May 11, 2012 at 2:09 pm
The only way to stop these selfish dog owners is to plant hedges or install a fence to physically block them because their owners will allow them to go anywhere. But prior to the hedges growing in (it'll take 2 years), a wire fence is needed: Web Link When our hedges were just planted, a dog owner with those extendable leashes allowed his dog to walk between the hedges, and up our lawn to defecate. Immediately, with rage in my eyes, I went out and bought wire fences, no longer assuming dog owners would get the hint that I didn't want them on my lawn. Yes, WE have to pay money to keep people from trespassing and using our lawns.
I have children and we all spend time on our front lawn. I don't care if the dog owners pick up the doo, there is still residue (why don't they pick it up with their bare hands if they think it's okay?).
I witnessed a dog owner mailing letter and using the dog scoop to open the mailbox. The ones who have lost their marbles are the selfish dog owners.
My children have stepped in dog doo at Jordan Middle school many times. It's an off-leash dog party there every evening.
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on May 11, 2012 at 2:25 pm
No Palo parent, just tired of the snotty Palo Alto attitude. Otherwise known as tPA'rs. @palo alto mom, I did NOT chase anyone down any street. In fact, I stated I pulled up at the curb and got out of my car. I believe that is part of what one does when they are exiting their vehicle to go into their own home. I stayed standing in front of my own car in front of my OWN house while talking to these people. As to the second encounter, I saw the woman today when I was DRIVING down my own block to go to work. I stopped my car to tell her she damaged my lawn. I don't have anger issues. YOU have reading comprehension issues. Hope you aren't helping your children with their English homework.
Let's just label your attacking me instead of addressing the larger issue at hand of insolent people who feel they can do what they please (no matter who it hurts) Exhibit "B". That's now three of you who have clearly illustrated the veracity my point about the general attitude of Palo Altans. Thank you for living down to my expectations.
a resident of Charleston Meadows
on May 11, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Do you have the same hostility for the owners of outdoor cats?
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 11, 2012 at 2:50 pm
I think I get the point. I once disturbed a family with a ladder helping themselves to fruit from our tree. They totally ignored my polite excuse me, picked up their ladder and my fruit and hurriedly left.
We also had people using our portapotty when we were doing construction and I have also seen people letting their children run all over our front lawn.
There are many who see front lawns, trashcans and portapotties communal space and communal facilities and do not respond to polite "excuse me".
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on May 11, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Jaime, I have dogs myself. And I have no hostility toward the dogs, just to their handlers. I know the damage that can happen to a lawn, and that it's not easily repaired unless someone tears out that chunk of lawn and replaces it with sod. Regardless, it's expensive, and not everyone in Palo Alto is rolling in money. I have yet to see a cat (and I have cats too) destroy anyone's lawn. Just a few potted plants. Again, this contrarian position some are taking is a fascinating first hand insight into the true mentality of this City. No wonder nothing positive gets accomplished here.
Resident, I experienced the same thing with the fruit. We had a persimmon tree in our backyard, and often we would come home and find people with ladders and once, at eleven at night, even on the roof of our garage, stealing the fruit. When confronted, they just fled, sometimes leaving the ladder behind. Again, not even a tossed over shoulder "Sorry" which would have amused us and lessened the sting. To avoid a potential lawsuit if someone fell, the next owner of the house removed the tree.
a resident of Midtown
on May 11, 2012 at 3:39 pm
@Posted by Disgusted, a resident of the Old Palo Alto neighborhood
If you dislike Palo Altans so much why dont you just move out and stay away from Palo Alto?
You are clearly not a good fit
We have much more serious problems than worrying about domestic cats killing many birds and much small wildlife or dogs urinating.
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on May 11, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Dear Sharon: I have been in Palo Alto for 38 years. I have noticed the change in the character of the City, and am saddened by it. I have read your postings for years. And, the various responses to them. I have refrained from jumping in an attacking you, I see you exercise no such restraint. So, let's just say I will leave the 'more serious' postings to you. Personally, I find habitual incivility and damaging the property of others to be somewhat serious. And, who said anything about 'domestic cats killing many birds?' This is getting too funny, like an online comment blog game of 'Telephone'. Again, this isn't about DOG PEE. It's about willfully DAMAGING ANOTHER PERSON'S PROPERTY.
a resident of Midtown
on May 11, 2012 at 4:07 pm
The proposal that all dogs be fitted with diapers in Palo Alto is bizarre.
In fact-cats kill millions of young birds and small animals every year in the US, they also spread diseases that kill otters and cause human miscarriages.
Bird droppings cause major damage to car paint and deer cause significant loss of life on the road.
Meanwhile Palo Alto will be bankrupted by our City workers pensions
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 11, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Disgusted -
If someone I didn't know stopped their car while I was walking my dog, accused me of damaging property, told me they would videotape me and "call the police and show them the picture" of my dog peeing, I wouldn't respond either, I would be afraid of you. The fact that you have a need to have a security camera to catch people's dogs peeing is a little scary in and of itself.
BTW - I doubt the police take a dog peeing very seriously.
a resident of Midtown
on May 11, 2012 at 5:12 pm
I feel your pain, disgusted. I planted some hedges around my lawn - both for looks and as "dog defense," but it did take a few years before it was actually an impediment to larger dogs.
There is a great sign up on the Mitchell Park construction site on Middlefield from "Project Cornerstone." I can't remember the exact quote, but it something like, "our children are watching our actions."
I just can't help but think of that anytime I see someone behaving rudely or openly flaunting rules. Its so true! How can we expect THEM to be respectful of property if adults walk around like they don't care where their animals do their business.
Try "Critter Ridder." It is supposed to have a nasty smell that might keep the dogs off your lawn. I'm not sure if it works or not. You can get it at Osh.
Also, as tough as it is to see people disrespect your Mom's lawn, try to keep it in perspective. It isn't worth raising your blood pressure or ruining your day over - that's another thing. They might burn the lawn, but they shouldn't ruin your day too. Time is precious!
a resident of another community
on May 11, 2012 at 5:36 pm
[Post removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]
a resident of Midtown
on May 11, 2012 at 5:54 pm
@Outside Observer
Advising people to poison pets is a very, very serious matter.
Such poisoning is a felony in California as is your encouraging such felonies-
-watch out-
-knock knock-
-your ISP has identified your computer as advocating a felony-
-you have the right to an attorney---
-etc -good luck
the penalty can be up to 8 years in State Prison-
- very hard time
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on May 11, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Palo Alto mom, again, let me attempt to enlighten you. We have a security system because there are many residential burglaries. You again made an assumption. This is my neighborhood. This woman knows who I am, and I know who she is. As to the cops, that's for them to decide. Certainly a police report and a picture for proof would go far in supporting a civil suit. My mom spent a fortune on that lawn, this was a much saved for and anticipated event. To have someone come along and damage it is unconscionable. It's not a $1.99 piece of sod. If these are the values you are teaching your children, you are part of the problem, not the solution. Every person in this city should enjoy the reasonable expectation of respect for property while exercising respect for the property of others.
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on May 11, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Outside, that's awful! It's not the dogs, it's the people walking them. And, advocating harm would make me part of the problem, not the solution. @Miller, thank you. It isn't so much of ruining my day, though it did upset my 80year old mother a lot, it was more a matter of hoping some people would read this and take to heart that thoughtless actions can hurt and maybe they'll remember to be a bit more thoughtful of others.
a resident of Midtown
on May 11, 2012 at 7:21 pm
All 80 yr olds have much more important issues than cats killing small animals or dogs in diapers
Poisoning pets is a felony in California--the PAPD can get the ISP to trace anyone promoting such felonies -
-and they will
a resident of another community
on May 11, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Over the years I've found that in order to deal with rude, arrogant, self-absorbed people, you need to be able to think like them.
Thus my advise.
The dogs are innocent, acting on instinct. The owners are not, yet the only way to influence the owners is through the dogs.
a resident of College Terrace
on May 11, 2012 at 8:32 pm
The pervasive sense of entitlement in Palo Alto is unbelievable and it reminds me of parts of Europe at its worst. I thought I'd left that behind when I left Europe for California a long time ago. For many years, it was true... but no longer in Palo Alto.
a resident of Fairmeadow
on May 11, 2012 at 8:49 pm
maybe you were in the right.
But, if you looked half as angry as your post sounds, I would probably have tried to get away from you, too.
a resident of Barron Park
on May 11, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Dear Disgrusted, The solution is quite simple! Just go to your lovely neighbor's driveway and leave them whatever they deserve! You can see the result within DAYs
a resident of Crescent Park
on May 11, 2012 at 9:58 pm
People controlling their dogs is a problem.
If I leave my garbage cans out on garbage day a little too long, or ever just a few minutes sometimes people walk by with their dogs and toss their plastic bags full of dog poop in my trash container.
By the end of a week dog poop in a hot trash container really stinks, so putting your dog's poop in someone else's container to me is an offense. The problem is since there is no law about being civil people just do whatever they can get away with, and most of the time people push the envelope and do things they are not even sure they can get away with just to see if they can - because our culture does not do anything to people who are offensive but reward them.
30 years now of this type of culture in strong postive feedback and we can see where we are heading on most levels - and it seems to be it ends up pretty much close to barbarism.
That said, having signs all over your house and your yard about not letting your dog poop on the yard just entices people. One of the major strategies of the offensive people is to find out what bugs someone and then poke at it over and over. This is nothing less than bullying, and by posting signs to tell people not to do what they know they should not do anyway is silly. You should count yourself lucky that they did not have a pit bull and he did not attack you.
I don't know what the answer is. There are just some things that people in general do not get. Like how to merge onto a freeway, or how to wait in line politely. I have been going to supermarkets for the better part of 4 decades now and it is only in the last few years that I have people banging me from behind with their carts they are not paying attention to.
Another theory is that we human only have so much bandwidth, so much attention and energy to devote to things, so we have so much to do and so much complexity in our life things have to lapse somewhere, and so it is with each other than we slack off and study how to get away with it and be entertained by someone else's misery and misfortune.
By the way, I did not see anything about fences in the article, what about fences?
a resident of Barron Park
on May 11, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Twice in one week I found fresh dog-dos on our driveway, next to our papers. Fortunately, the papers were in plastic bags. It's quite obvious that those fresh dog-dos were on our path -- for our cars and kids' bikes. I don't understand why the dog owners think it's ok to leave them there. We have to make sure there is no dark colored object before heading out. It's awful!
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 11, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Irresponsible dog owners are some of the most "entitled" people in Palo Alto. Dog owners should be required to purchase a permit and attend mandatory training on dog owner responsibilities.
a resident of East Palo Alto
on May 11, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Disgusted, I totally feel for you. This is why:
-You're responding not just to what happened, but to your concerns over how your town has changes
-You wanted to stop people from letting their dogs do this in the future on your property, but they wouldn't listen, so it just pissed you off further, resulting in your getting really wound up & needing to vent
-You care for your yard, you respect your yard & the property of others & want them to do the same for you, but they don't. That's also a total pisser.
As one who has dogs AND has had people let their dogs do their business in our yard AND all over the sidewalk unnecessarily, below is some unsolicited advice:
-Do whatever your budget & pride allow you to prevent it in the future
-Realize that your peace of mind, your serenity, are more important than your lawn
-Remember that a lot of people act like jerks when we don't want them to
-Realize that your peace of mind, your serenity, are more important than your lawn (yes, I'm writing this again, because it's important)
-Don't let your upset escalate w/continual confrontations because no one will hear your message - they only pay attention to how it's delivered
-Dogs used to pee on peoples' lawns all over Palo Alto when I was a kid. It's more recently that people have such concerns over lawn burn - & that people are getting more rude w/their own sense of entitlement. This is not an accident - people are more protective of their stuff & others are more entitled re not caring about your stuff.
-The cops do NOT care about dogs peeing on your lawn. You will be a laughingstock if you go to them w/pics. Trust me - I've seen the pics from folks like you & we laughed ourselves silly.
-Realize that your peace of mind, your serenity, are more important than your lawn (yes, I'm writing this again, because it's important)
-Final note - Sharon's observations & advice here are actually relevant & cogent. I'm glad that OO's post was deleted & that she nailed OO for that. Oh - take some deep breaths when you see the lawn disrespect happen again, because it will!
a resident of another community
on May 11, 2012 at 11:00 pm
>>"I have been going to supermarkets for the better part of 4 decades now and it is only in the last few years that I have people banging me from behind with their carts they are not paying attention to."
There is an easy fix to that one. Go to an Asian market. Lion's or Ranch 99.
Customers there haven't been polluted by American garbage culture. They are respectful, don't block aisles, don't have herds of screaming children, won't bump your cart or waste your time in checkout.
Try it once, and you will never go back to Hole Foods again. (incorrect spelling on purpose ;)
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on May 11, 2012 at 11:39 pm
@Outside Observer: That's not true at all. I am a Chinese-American and one of my peeves is that sometimes (but not often) Asian immigrants may bump me and not even apologize because they are so used to bumping into people in Asia, which is so crowded. Whereas, here, people apologize if they bump into someone. But this is way off topic.
I looked into ways to keep dogs off our lawn and ended up paying thousands to have hedges installed. To try to use scents to deter them, one has to apply it every week. I am not going to let the dog owners force me to waste my time as such.
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on May 12, 2012 at 12:47 am
Thank you for some of the well intentioned advice. I am appreciative of it. I will say for the last time, I did not get angrily out of my car, I BECAME angry as I experienced the phenomenal rudeness of those two awful people. I have worked in the service industry, then the courts, for years, and this was the most blatant in your face cold shoulder response to a polite request I've ever experienced. When I spoke to that woman today, I again was not rude or angry, just factual. Told her what her dog did to my lawn, and what steps I was going to take to ensure she didn't do this again unless she wished to pay for the damages. Unlike her, I used my words to make myself clear. I've seen a lot of police laugh about a lot of stuff, until it happens to their own things. Not so funny then. I'm sure on some level, they can relate. I would be more likely to take the case to a civil court for remedy. And then, only when it was someone who had already been asked to cease and desist, as was this woman and their husband, because then it becomes deliberate intent. People get distracted, spaced out, and sometimes don't pay attention. I do that too, I understand that. People who are intentionally rude are something different altogether, no matter how small an issue you think this is, it's an issue that relates to having to spend money to fix that which we did not ruin. I know what @Helpless is talking about too, because we too have had our Sunday paper either stolen or dumped out of the green plastic bag, and found dog crap lying in it on our driveway. Unbelievable! My mother didn't raise us to do things like that, and I suppose I am naive to expect others to share the same mores and values that I hold dear. It's all in the attitude, and the attitude I've seen around this city of late, is pretty bad.
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on May 12, 2012 at 1:00 am
Anon, the angry jerk who allowed his dog to urinate on our lawn imperiously told me I should put up a fence if I did not want dogs peeing on my lawn. Funny how people are translating total frustration into anger management issues. I didn't get angry until I realized these awful people were ignoring my quite pleasant repeated attempts to get their attention, and the dialogue only turned rude when they initiated the hostility. All I wanted to do was politely ask them not to allow their dog to pee on our lawn when walking by our house.
Tell me, why is it that the dreck that did this to our home is just about untouchable, while I, who chose to vent because I'm tired of the entitlement issues in this city, and the financial damage this caused, am personally attacked and have had things attributed to me that I never even said! This has been a strange experience, but it's given me invaluable empirical data backing up my initial assessment of the situation. Thanks to those who get it, and let's hope someday things will change for the better.
a resident of Midtown
on May 12, 2012 at 1:16 am
Put up a short fence and electrify it on the inside. Problem solved, after the first time the dog pees on it...
a resident of Barron Park
on May 12, 2012 at 5:57 am
Here's the unofficial motto of PA: "Welcome to Palo Alto...Me first!"
The sense of selfish entitlement and "Me above everyone else" attitude is seen EVERYWHERE in this town. If you want community and friendlier people, Mtn View has far more to offer, and when you're downtown you won't think you're on Mid Market St in SF, weaving through suspect and aggressive transients as they angrily "ask" for your money.
Its simply a much more "Livable" area.
You can all see what's happening to PA. People may try to deny it, but after living hear for 45 years its quite easy to see the cultural shift away from community. The disdain people show each other on the roads has now seeped into everyday encounters in stores and on sidewalks.
"Palo Alto...ME FIRST!"
a resident of Midtown
on May 12, 2012 at 6:05 am
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In some cities, all licensed dogs are required to submit a DNA sample to the police. An unidentified dump on one's lawn is picked up by the police, DNA analyzed and the owner identified and fined. The fines are heavy enough to support the program.
a resident of Barron Park
on May 12, 2012 at 6:06 am
"There is an easy fix to that one. Go to an Asian market. Lion's or Ranch 99.
Customers there haven't been polluted by American garbage culture."
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 12, 2012 at 7:01 am
Dogs do what dogs do .. and people really don't have a lot of control over them. Given their own choice, dogs will go find a place that's "private" and do their business. The dog will then try to cover up his "deposit" by scratching the soil, or loose leaves that might be on the ground, over the droppings. Dogs that are kept in houses, don't get a chance to act very naturally .. and find themselves sort of "performing" for their owners.
It's the dog owners that are the problem, not so much the dogs.
Given how inconsiderate most dog owners are in Palo Alto, it's a lot easier to just clean up the droppings, when they occur, and not expend a lot of emotional energy over the matter.
a resident of Midtown
on May 12, 2012 at 8:06 am
I put up boxwood bushes to hedge my front yard. It took 2 years for them to grow into a hedge, but once they've formed a hedge I rarely get any dogs using my front yard.
Unfortunately, the only answer to those rude dog walkers are:
1) get evidence using pictures, and go to small claims court; the judgements that can awarded are high enough that it should cover the cost of the lawn, as well as any hazardous waste remedial work. Unfortunately it does take your time, but after a few lawsuits, I'm sure the rude dog walkers would get the message.
2) go public with the rude dog walkers name, photos, etc. But these rude dogwalkers probably have no shame
a resident of Midtown
on May 12, 2012 at 8:33 am
I have noticed a new trend. People use newspaper bags to leave dog poop on our sidewalk - already packaged but left there for us to dispose of!!
a resident of South of Midtown
on May 12, 2012 at 8:53 am
We have neighbors that allow their dogs to pee on our lawn in front of us and not excuse themelves or the dog. They just smile at us and move on down the street to another house. Post a sign on the lawn or turn the automatic sprinkers on at various times of the day!
a resident of Palo Verde
on May 12, 2012 at 9:57 am
Agree w/everyone who supports dogs going in the OWN yard. Not in my yard, not in my drive, NOT on the school field, do it at home. Dogs are trainable, so train or re-train them!
To the person who suggested dogs just need to go, much like children. What if parents started having their toilet training toddlers go in your yard or wherever they happened to be? Kids are trainable and so are dogs. Owners just don't care and don't think about all the kids who step in or cartwheel through dog pee and poo at school or in their own yard.
My kids and their school mates regularly experience this. When dodging turds on the sidewalk as we approach Palo Verde they ask why people don't clean up. The next generation is watching how adults treat each other.
To the OP. it is not just PA, unfortunately poop happens these days in yards everywhere. Doesn't excuse it.
a resident of Atherton
on May 12, 2012 at 11:02 am
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I believe that people allow their dogs to poop on other people's and the public's property because they simply feel that their are no consequences for their actions.
The people involved might well ignore complaints of strangers but will certainly be more responsive to exposure of their behavior to the friends and work colleagues. Why not start a web site Hall of Shame and post photographs and videos of this behavior?
a resident of East Palo Alto
on May 12, 2012 at 11:16 am
I will admit that when I've not had a bag handy & the dog goes in public, once back home I grab a bag, drive back or walk another dog to the place of sin & clean it up. But we consciously don't let them go in a person's yard. It's confusing for the dogs - rescued dogs have their own habits that can be time-consuming to correct. But if I can prevent a 120 lb dog from peeing on a lawn, others can, too - their dogs are likely smaller.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 12, 2012 at 11:46 am
The thing to remember about dogs peeing like this is that they are not urinating because they need to, but they are marking a territory or sending messages to other animals. A dog who is leashed and out of its own territory if being walked properly should be easy to prevent. But, if the dogwalker stops or allows the dog to walk on a leash too long, it will revert to its animal behavior and start sniffing to find out what other animals belong in this territory and then leave its message to those other animals.
I believe that the scent and the chemical balance between dogs and bitches and those that are neutered are all different and cause a different effect to the ground on which the pee has been left.
a resident of another community
on May 12, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Have you people never heard of using a poop bag, and then taking it to your own trash can to discard it? But, stop a dog from peeing outside? Are you kidding? Neverthess, you CAN USE THE LEASH to guide the dog to a proper spot.
I love my little dog (the sweetest dog ever), but like with kids there have to be basic rules...based on consideration and safety. And, the dog "parent" is supposedly the one with a higher functioning brain.
Sadly enough, that's not so evident. Yesterday, a dog owner in Menlo Park tied her dog to a lamp post on Santa Cruz on a loose clear plastic leash, then laid the leash across the sidewalk so the dog could come to the shop door to watch the owner shop. A woman with a baby tripped. A woman with a cane tripped, and the dog owner yelled at HER.
I think the "zeitgeist" along the Peninsula is in serious trouble. If only local residents could regain some common sense and courtesy, and shed some selfishness. Then, perhaps the Palo Alto Online forum could feature discussion topics at a little higher level. Instead there is a litany of contentious me-me-me complaints. The community is becoming so "special" that is seems disfunctional
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 12, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Why not use dog parks to walk & exercise dogs in Palo Alto? And not your neighbors yard.
a resident of another community
on May 12, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Hot diggity:
There are many reasons why taking the dog for a walk is necessary. Here's a couple: Dog parks aren't open at 11pm. -- and if they were, it's not a place where women and children would want to go alone. Also, many people do not live near a dog park.
I suggested that people who walk there dogs simply be considerate of others and (1) use a leash, it's the law (2) keep your animal as close to the curb as possible (3) clean up after your dog (4) put #2 in a baggie and dispose of the baggie in your own trashcan
The sidewalks are public. The streets are public. Get over it and discuss something more meaningful on PAOnline.
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on May 12, 2012 at 10:37 pm
I don't know what you guys are talking about. The PA I've experienced is quite neighborly and friendly. People say hello or smile to each other as they pass on the sidewalks, we've often struck up conversations with other parents when we've brought our small children to play at the park. I've actually found it friendlier than other towns I've lived in on the peninsula.
Drivers here are also noticeably more cautious and slower than elsewhere in the Bay Area. People stop for children, and you don't have that rowdy teenage hot rod or pickup truck element you frequently encounter in nearby towns.
I wonder if some of the complainers here are just, well, people who like to complain a lot. Who knows, maybe 30 years ago this town was some kind of paradise and things were even better than they are today. But I have a feeling that back then, the same types of people were probably complaining about how bad the town had gotten since the good ole days decades before, and so on and so on.
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on May 13, 2012 at 12:17 am
I have to confess I haven't read the whole thread, but I thought I would contribute my two cents. Pet pee on a new lawn is wrong and very rude of the dog owners who allow it. Dogs, in the other hand, are being dogs. And a brand spanking new lawn that hasn't been marked as anyone's territory is irresistible to a dog. Bad dog owners.
As for critter ridder. It's not poison and will not injure the animals. It's safe to use even in organic gardens. The county vector control recommends using it to deter animals from pooping on your property.... especially raccoons. Their poop can look like dog poop but it can carry roundworm and is something that must be cleaned up properly and immediately. Even pure bleach cannot kill roundworm eggs. I've learned too much about this recently; because even in tony Palo Alto, we've had to deal with a major raccoon poo problem, which I thought were from dogs.
a resident of Professorville
on May 13, 2012 at 9:31 am
Since the police may not be helpful in enforcing the dog laws, how about posting on YouTube videos of the selfish dog owners allowing their dogs to cause problems for their neighbors? A section could be set up called "Palo alto Problem Poopers" or "Palo Alto Socially Irresponsible Dog Owners" or whatever. Maybe embarrassment might accomplish what a conscience failed to do.
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on May 13, 2012 at 10:07 am
Allowing a dog to defecate on somebody else's lawn without cleaning up after it is very inconsiderate and uncool, we all agree on that. Having said that, chasing inconsiderate dog owners down the street and attempting to confront them is an indication of psychological issues far more serious and threatening than the inconsiderate behavior of the dog owner. "Disgusted" would be well served if he/she dealt with those psychological/emotional issues instead of posting here.
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 13, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Set up a motion sensor that turns the sprinklers on if someone or someone's dog enters your property.
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 13, 2012 at 1:46 pm
A long list of potentially infectious agents are known to live in dog and cat feces -- from E. coli to tapeworms. But perhaps less well known is the fact that a lot of these parasites actually become more infectious as the poop ages.
"It takes many types of parasite eggs a while to ripen," said Dr. Emily Beeler, an animal disease surveillance veterinarian for the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health. Toxoplasmosis, which is more common in cats than in dogs, typically takes more than 24 hours to become infectious, she explained. Roundworm can take up to three weeks, and then may remain infectious for years in contaminated soil and water. (A recent CDC study found 14 percent of Americans tested positive for roundworms.)
Of course, this is not to say that fresh is always best. Newly dropped doo-doo still contains tons of bacteria, noted Dr. Beeler, which may also pose a health risk.
"People just tend to think [old poop] is not as smelly, a little less disgusting," and therefore easier to scoop or simply ignore, added Dr. Beeler, who co-authored a report on the link between animal feces and infectious disease this summer.
In his song "Ordinary Average Guy", Joe Walsh reflects this common attitude:
Every Saturday we work in the yard / Pick up the dog doo / Hope that it's hard (woof woof)
Emily and other experts warn that once-a-week poop-scooping is still not enough to ensure the safety of pets and people. "We recommend daily pickup of stool," Dr. Beeler said.
The Washington State Department of Ecology has studied the local sources of pollutants and linked higher counts of fecal coliform -- an indicator for the potential presence of harmful pathogens -- to residential compared to commercial areas. This spells out dogs.
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on May 13, 2012 at 3:33 pm
"A long list of potentially infectious agents are known to live in dog and cat feces -- from E. coli to tapeworms. But perhaps less well known is the fact that a lot of these parasites actually become more infectious as the poop ages."
True, and leafblowers, which I bet most of those who complain about dog poop on their lawns employ, are by far the main distributor of animal poop bacteria into our air and lungs.
a resident of Midtown
on May 13, 2012 at 4:47 pm
There are 1000s of raccoons and squirrels fouling our lawns and streets-these animals our not vaccinated can spread rabies.
Birds ducks etc droppings destroy car paint jobs and spread flu and bird flu.
Cat excrement spreads Toxoplasmosis is a parasitic disease caused by the protozoan Toxoplasma gondii.
The parasite infects most genera of warm-blooded animals, including humans, the primary host is the felid (cat) family
This cat vectored disease Recent research has also linked this cat vectored disease -toxoplasmosis-- with brain cancer, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder, and schizophrenia in humans.
It is also draining into ocean and killing off the cute baby otters.
I have never seen any Palo Altan scooping up after their wandering cats-
-they should be walked on leashes and their droppings picked up and the area treated as a hazmat zone
a resident of Mountain View
on May 13, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Rich people problems.
I'm not trying to be rude, but all the energy spent on this is a waste in my opinion. If this is the worst part of your day you're doing just fine.
a resident of Midtown
on May 14, 2012 at 8:57 am
I completely sympathize with the writer of the post. She made a good point, and maybe some of the more conscious people who would read this become more considerate in the future.
a resident of College Terrace
on May 14, 2012 at 9:05 am
This problem screams a political stance! Can you guess which one?
a resident of Barron Park
on May 14, 2012 at 9:49 am
I was in Macys at SSC the other day and saw a dog owner watch as his cute little dog urinated on a display in the shoe department. When I laughingly mentioned something to my daughter about how inconsiderate some pet owners are, the owner didn't seem to care and continued on his way. Face it some pet owners are really inconsiderate and just don't care!
a resident of Green Acres
on May 14, 2012 at 10:29 am
I have 3 dogs - i walk them for exercise and do not allow them to pee or walk on yards HOWEVER a nieghbor of mine dogs allow his dog to poop/pee on my yard, I spoke to him and he didn't care so what i did was save 2 days worth of dog poop from my dogs and then went and put it on his front yard........the problem STOPPED
Im not saying to do this but sometimes action over talking seems to win
a resident of Midtown
on May 14, 2012 at 10:53 am
I understand Disgusted's points. We have lived in various neighborhoods of Palo Alto for 35 years. The majority of people here were courteous and friendly until the last 8-10 years. You could talk to others at will, discuss problems, resolve things. The current attitudes are 180 degrees from the previous. Such a shame! Maybe we old-timers or natives need to hold a mandatory symposium on the "Old Palo Alto Way."
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on May 14, 2012 at 11:18 am
I understand some of your frustration. I love dogs and I walk my labs all the time. I don't allow them to relieve on walks- something you have to train when they're puppies. Having said that: Take a look at the following possible kinder solutions:
1. Change your watering times if the offending dog is consistent in the time he or she turns up to relieve themselves make sure the sprinklers are already going. Even having the lawn wet prior to the animal presenting itself may be a huge deterrent. I know my dogs hate to step into wet lawns.
2. Amazon sell this great motion-activated sprinkler #CRO101/CRO102(aff.) that will only come on when an animal triggers its sensors.
Hope these help. And lets move on to solve bigger problems!
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on May 14, 2012 at 12:33 pm
"The majority of people here were courteous and friendly until the last 8-10 years. You could talk to others at will, discuss problems, resolve things. The current attitudes are 180 degrees from the previous."
Yes, Palo Alto used to be as friendly as one can hope for. A friend from out of town once told me that he had never experienced such politeness, consideration and courtesy in any other place he visited. Something happened in the last 10-12 years. What do you think it is?
a resident of Stanford
on May 14, 2012 at 12:39 pm
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a resident of Old Palo Alto
on May 14, 2012 at 1:03 pm
I too have found gifts in my driveway on many occasions. I did however luck out once and was able to identify the yapping non stop on the cell owner with the loose bowled dog and followed them back to their shack. I have since returned all gifts left in my driveway to them.. No DNA necessary, if it's there they get it.. Enjoy
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on May 14, 2012 at 1:05 pm
@GranmaKK - people may have changed, but it seems possible (likely?) that your perceptions have changed. Since time began, older folks have thought that the younger generation represented a sad decline over previously better times and higher social mores.
I find Palo Alto people generally fine as people, though the desire of some to argue at length and with vigor over any local political action or anything to do with the schools has really stumped me. But I gather that is the nature of the place, not a new thing.
a resident of Downtown North
on May 14, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Put an owl inyour yard that activates on motion, it will scae the life out of them. Works day and ight.
a resident of another community
on May 14, 2012 at 5:42 pm
>>"Something happened in the last 10-12 years. What do you think it is?"
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on May 14, 2012 at 5:50 pm
@Outside - the 80s called, they want their slang back ;-)
a resident of Midtown
on May 14, 2012 at 6:55 pm
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a resident of Mountain View
on May 14, 2012 at 7:34 pm
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I love all the yuppies vs older resident comments; the divide is very obvious...
Some solutions:
( yes, I know I'm shouting ) IF YOU HAVE A HOA, THIS IS THE PERFECT PLACE TO START YOUR COMPLAINT PROCESS!
That is what an HOA is supposed to do with all that money the have taken from you! Many HOA people LOVE to explain ( dictate ) to members why it is illegal to behave in such a manner...If you have read the news lately, you can suffer serious consequences at the hands of an HOA " enforcer ".
For people who want the PAPD TO DO THEIR JOBS you have to get your property on a legally grounded basis for your complaint.
That means a visible POSTED NO TRESPASSING sign. Having that sign can resolve many problems from a legal standpoint. If your property is damaged in any way, you are legally able to conduct a citizen's arrest if you witness the act causing property damage. After a few of these types of calls, your PD gets the message and dog owners get a citation ( or a stay in the PAPD pokey ) and will have to attend a seminar on the rights AND RESPONSIBILITIES of a dog owner who uses other peoples lawns as a public port-a-potty.
After it cost $$$ and time, even the most hard boiled Yuppie gets the message...
The sign makes good evidence when you take the property damagers to small claims court...
For people that are not castrated by local weapons laws, that NO TRESPASSING SIGN. allows great leeway in what you can do, especially with uncontrolled animals.
One exception: I allow quite a bit of leeway when it is bear or cougar scat in my front yard....Those animals were here FIRST!!!
This is not to be construed as legal advice, just common sense from a landowner's point of view...
a resident of another community
on May 14, 2012 at 7:45 pm
@Hmm, Yeah I know the term is dated, but everyone knows what it means. Unfortunately the proper 21st century term for "Yuppies" would get censored.
@Sharon, the recent Asian residents of Palo Alto are the ONLY redeeming factor Palo Alto has. Without them the percentage of "Yuppies" would reach critical mass. Also, I forgot to thank you for validating my method of dog control. Your response was perfect! Often you are my best advocate, and I do appreciate it!
a resident of Barron Park
on May 14, 2012 at 8:59 pm
I've been trying to teach my dog to read for 13 years, but he still tries to pee on NO TRESPASSING signs instead of obeying them. I have solved that by keeping him on a leash and not letting him pee on tires (they rot) or gateposts (smelly). He and his predecessors have peed on telephone poles ivy plants without destroying them. I have not been able to keep the crows from messing up my driveway--any suggestions?
a resident of Crescent Park
on May 14, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Some of you folks need to move to a high rise apartment building on the train tracks. No lawns! Problem solved.
Just curious: what do y'all do about the squirrels and raccoons and other critters that view your property as prime rest stop territory? Sit out on the porch with your bb gun? Build an electroshock fence to ward off all intruders? What do you do about acid rain?
Maybe it's time to stop planting grass. Doesn't really belong in this climate anyway.
a resident of Midtown
on May 14, 2012 at 9:32 pm
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a resident of Old Palo Alto
on May 14, 2012 at 10:05 pm
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a resident of another community
on May 14, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Editors....do you see what your constant articles stirring up discontent as much as possible, on the most banal topics, actually does? People feel put out and threatened over absolutely nothing and rant over trivial "threats."
Then the crazies and racists come out.
Palo Alto does not seem like the same place it was only a few years ago...at least on these pages. It may be rich, but it seems like an ugly community.
a resident of Downtown North
on May 15, 2012 at 8:54 am
this is a battle of the rule followers versus the non-rule followers....it's a mentality that won't change...
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 15, 2012 at 11:29 am
For as crazy and rude you think Palo Alto residents are I think you sound equally crazy and rude but for different reasons. Life is short, enjoy it all the colorful characters that you get to encounter. Things could be so much worse.
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on May 15, 2012 at 11:32 am
A neighbor of mine is a notorious complainer about dogs pooping on her front lawn, yet she is also a notorious runner of red lights and stop signs and has absolutely no idea she has a turn signal lever in her car, right next to the steering wheel. Other habitual complainers employ gardeners who use gasoline leafblowers, which happen to be banned in Palo Alto, while bitterly whining about other residents who don't follow the rules. Some people complain about others not following rules when it hits close to home, but don't bother to follow much more important rules themselves. That's why I find the whining about dog poop, or other trivia so laughable.
a resident of Midtown
on May 15, 2012 at 11:49 am
This is about rules and laws, but it is really about people being considerate and nice to other people. Rules and laws are made to protect people from the selfish jerks, but it would be better if people could get over themselves and be considerate and helpful.
a resident of Mountain View
on May 15, 2012 at 12:34 pm
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For the Yuppie with more mouth than brains:
" I have not been able to keep the crows from messing up my driveway--any suggestions? "
You buy a fake owl to put on your rooftop. Many garden supply places have then to take care of this problem..
Back OT:
I'm reminded of Robert Anson Heinlein's quote:
" An ARMED society is a POLITE society "
That implies that Common Sense ( which isn't common these days ) can prevail when people have to take RESPONSIBILITY for their behavior AT ALL TIMES. You were required to choose between your smart mouth or your LIFE in those early days of California. Darwinism at it's best.
When you are a weapon holder, you were taught What, When, Where, Why, Who and How to use it. That training is REQUIRED before you get a CCW permit..Yes, some of your SMART people around you are carrying and you don't even know it!
( That saying is familiar, I wonder if anyone on the staff of the Palo Alto Times recognizes it, a newspaper in the right hands is indeed a weapon ).
Up in the Mountains, OPEN CARRY is a necessity to survive the animals listed in my previous post if you are attacked. Unfortunately, some TWO LEGGED animals fit that description as well.
That is why Colorado has the " Make My Day " law on the books. AND USES IT!
a resident of Barron Park
on May 15, 2012 at 12:47 pm
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a resident of East Palo Alto
on May 18, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Disgusted - I thought of you today. I was at a stop sign in Crescent Park & watched a woman allow her dog to take a dump on the corner of someone's lawn while the woman just texted away. She ever so leisurely took out a bag to clean it up, but really? she just HAD to let it crap on someone else's property.

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NEW YORK -- After a ninth-inning collapse Wednesday, the Giants are guaranteed their first losing season since 2008.
The title defense went off the rails right after the All-Star break, when the Giants dropped 12 games in the standings in just four weeks. But before Wednesday's 5-4 loss to the New York Mets, manager Bruce Bochy said some of the problems might have started long before the summer skid.
In fact, Bochy continues to wonder if the season's first major issue came with many of his stars wearing other uniforms.
Several times during this disappointing season, Bochy has mentioned the World Baseball Classic and the effect it might have had on his roster this spring. The topic came up again Wednesday, when Bochy told reporters that left-hander Jeremy Affeldt is likely done for the season because of persistent soreness in his left groin.
Affeldt is one of seven Giants big leaguers who participated in the preseason tournament. Five have spent time on the disabled list this season.
"I don't know if it's just bad luck on our part, but everybody that participated in the WBC had something," Bochy said. "It did make Affeldt crank it up earlier and may have affected him."
Some of the injuries to WBC participants have been fluky and unrelated to the exhibition that pulled players away from their MLB clubs for long stretches of spring training. But the list of injuries is still jarring.
Affeldt (United States) missed 50 games with a strained left groin and 15 games with an oblique strain, and wasn't his normal reliable self when healthy. Santiago Casilla (Dominican Republic) missed 47 games after minor knee surgery. Angel Pagan (Puerto Rico) missed 84 games with a hamstring injury, and Pablo Sandoval (Venezuela) spent two weeks on the disabled list with a left foot strain. Ryan Vogelsong's 69-game disabled list stint came after he was hit by a pitch, but the right-hander has mostly struggled (5.73 ERA) after altering his offseason routine to pitch for Team USA.
"The question with the WBC is going to come up (with Vogelsong)," Bochy said in August. "He did start pitching early. Whether that took a toll on him, you don't know. I don't know -- it might have."
Marco Scutaro (Venezuela) avoided the disabled list but has started just 124 games because of finger, back and hip ailments. Closer Sergio Romo (Mexico) seemed to be the outlier, but Bochy admitted Wednesday that Romo was shut down for a few days after the WBC because his elbow was barking.
Romo said he feels as strong as ever as the season comes to a close, but he couldn't close out the Mets on Wednesday.
A night after the Mets left the bases loaded during a failed comeback attempt in the ninth, they failed to get anything going against Matt Cain, who opted not to participate in the WBC this spring. The extra rest didn't help early in the season, as Cain posted a 5.06 ERA before the All-Star break. But he has turned his season around, and after giving up just an unearned run in 72/3 innings Wednesday, Cain has a 2.34 second-half ERA.
"I wasn't going to just shut it down because things weren't going great," he said. "You're going to have rough patches. I was just making bad pitches and was a little off mechanically. But you've got to make adjustments."
Behind Cain and Gregor Blanco (two-run homer), the Giants took a three-run lead into the ninth. Bochy had hoped to stay away from Romo, but the closer was called when Casilla walked two of the first three batters. Romo has given up nine hits in his past four appearances but said he is fine physically.
"I'm very proud of that," he said. "It shows the preparation I did this offseason. I was prepared to come into the season. I don't feel tired."
That didn't matter Wednesday. The Mets scored two runs and loaded the bases with two outs. Former Cal standout Josh Satin ended the night with a two-run single to left. The Giants had been 56-2 when leading after eight innings.
For more on the Giants, see Alex Pavlovic's Giants Extra blog at blogs.mercurynews.com/Giants.
Thursday's game
Giants (Madison Bumgarner 12-9) at N.Y. Mets (Jonathon Niese 7-7), 10:10 a.m., CSNBA


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It probably wasn't very heartening to hear in our opener that the vast majority of mutual funds underperform the average return of the stock market. To add insult to injury, the chances are good that you own one of those underperforming mutual funds. Most Americans do. Oh, but wait, there's more: Most 401(k) plans only let you invest in mutual funds. (We're relentless, aren't we?)
Chin up, Fools. There are some powerful forces in your corner, not the least of which is choice. Ultimately, you decide whether you will accept the substandard returns of your mutual fund or seek investing enlightenment and your right to market-matching returns.
Ahh, but how do you decide whether to stay or go? Remember that glossy binder you got when you signed up for your company's 401(k) plan? Do you recall those quarterly mailings you've been getting from that mutual fund you invested in when you opened your IRA? (Hint: Check the bottom desk drawer or that file you labeled "To Read Later.")
It's hard to make yourself read those things as soon as they arrive (or ever, for that matter), but in all that paperwork lies some critical information. Every mutual fund issues a prospectus, which is written in the driest, most confusing, boring language possible. Somewhere in there it describes the fund's investment policies and objectives, risks, costs (very important -- that's why we put it in bold), historical performance data, and various other legalese-encrusted tidbits. The prospectus, in essence, will describe the investment style of the fund.
Nowadays, you can also find the essential information about mutual funds on various Internet sites. You can begin your research (once you've finished reading our little section) at Morningstar's site, where you'll find data and analysis on thousands of mutual funds.
Here are five specific things to look for in those quarterly and annual reports:
- Change in management. We spend a lot of words talking about how important the fund manager is, so make sure the manager you've chosen is still there. A change is inevitable at some point, of course, and it shouldn't necessarily be a signal to sell. You need to be aware, however, of who is handling your money.
- Change in fees. This is another key element to watch. Mutual funds are not required to keep fees at the level at which you originally signed up. Your job as a fund shareholder is to make sure that your returns don't suffer from "fee creep."
- Change in style. If a fund renowned for buying slow-growth, high-dividend blue chips starts buying the latest wireless optical serving router start-up that just hit the market, sit up and take notice. Keep an eye on your fund's holdings to make sure that they conform to what you think you bought -- and to the label that the fund managers assigned it.
- A change in turnover. Keep a close eye on the turnover rate of any fund you own. If you want to or have to own mutual funds, look for funds with lower-than-average turnover rates -- preferably no higher than 50% and hopefully much lower. For comparison, index fund turnover can be around 5% or lower.
- Change in performance. This is a tricky one. Occasional, or even somewhat frequent, underperformance is not unusual or unexpected for a good fund. Don't bail on your funds just because they have a bad quarter, year, or even two years. Do track performance, though. If you start seeing poor five-year returns, then it may be time to start looking elsewhere.
When you see a fund make significant changes in any of these areas, it's time to reassess your holding. That doesn't mean that you sell automatically -- some changes are for the better, or at least aren't bad enough to suffer the ill effects of selling.
Make a pact with yourself to at the very least keep tabs on these five areas for the funds that you own. Heck, put a quarterly review date on your calendar. Make it as automatic as changing the oil in your car or putting a fresh box of baking soda in your fridge. When the red light on the dash goes on, or the stench of rotten broccoli overwhelms you, it may be too late. And so it goes for mutual fund investing.
The Perils of Selling
Unfortunately, selling a mutual fund can trigger a variety of costly events.
- If you hold the fund in a taxable account, you will have to pay capital gains taxes.
- Fund companies like to discourage selling, so some charge redemption fees or subject you to a back-end load.
- Even if you move your money to a different fund within the same mutual fund family (e.g., from one Fidelity fund to another), you will likely have to pay a sales commissions for your new fund.
Still, none of these things should discourage you from getting out of a real stinker. Just make sure you analyze all the costs before selling your funds. Here's more on how to figure out whether it's time to sell.
If you do decide to sell your fund, make sure that you aren't stepping out of the frying pan and into the fire. Know what it takes to pick the best mutual funds.


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This hearty dessert is the perfect sweet ending to a Hanukkah meal. Try serving it with plain yogurt, sweetened sour cream or ricotta cheese.
Nutrition Profile:
Gluten Free Diet
Healthy Weight
Heart Healthy
High Fiber
Low Calorie
Low Cholesterol
Low Sat Fat
Low Sodium
Serves 6
Prep Time 10 min
Total Time 50 min.
Step 1
Stir water, sugar, cinnamon, cloves and salt in a large saucepan over medium-high heat until the sugar dissolves. Add apricots, prunes and pears and bring to a simmer. Cover, reduce heat and simmer slowly for 30 minutes.
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Uncover and continue simmering slowly until thickened, about 10 minutes. Let cool completely before serving. Serve at room temperature or chilled.
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- $100 Resort Credit
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Visitors to Cape Cod, Massachusetts have one of two things underfoot: the soft sand of its plentiful beaches, or the quaint streets of countless New England towns. And when it comes to charm, it's hard to beat Chatham, a haven of stately 18th-century houses and weathered cottages. The warm-weather months are all about lying on the beach, soaking in the sun, and letting the soothing sounds of the ocean carry you away. Alternately, the lower-key off-season is perfect for strolling through town on a crisp afternoon or venturing farther afield with a day trip to Provincetown, Martha's Vineyard, or Nantucket.
The Digs
One of Condé Nast Traveler's top resorts and the recipient of Forbes' Four-Star rating in the resort, spa, and restaurant categories, the Chatham Bars Inn rests on 25 beautifully landscaped acres, with sweeping views of the Atlantic Ocean and Pleasant Bay. Here, gentle sea breezes waft across inviting verandas and activities like golf, tennis, fishing, and bird-watching are just steps away. Perched atop a seaside bluff, the property's classic cottages are covered in Cape Cod's signature snowy shingles and surrounded by blooming gardens. Deluxe rooms are outfitted with flat-screen TVs, Bose radios, and Wi-Fi, as well as extras like fluffy bathrobes, L'Occitane bath amenities, and Nespresso coffeemakers.
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Leave your worries behind as you explore the breathtaking natural beauty of nearby Cape Cod National Seashore, one of the most stunning barrier beaches in the world. Then, return to the resort to purchase a treatment at the state-of-the-art spa. De-stress with the Tides Massage, a full-body experience combining seashells and warm stones with successive waves of deepening strokes. Finish the evening by enjoying an acclaimed entrée at the Main Dining Room or Sacred Cod Tavern.
"Overlooking Pleasant Bay from atop a windswept bluff, Chatham Bars Inn is a grande-dame hotel that has long been one of the Cape's most coveted retreats. Elegant guest rooms are filled with hand-painted furnishings by local artists."-- Read Fodor's Review of Chatham Bars Inn
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Steve gave me his paycheck. The check had been man pocketted and I was ashamed to take the tattered thing to the bank.
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Porter Weston Robinson (born July 15 1992) is an American electronic dance music producer and DJ from Chapel Hill North Carolina. He primarily produces and DJs in the electro house genre.Robinson began producing at the age of 13 using Sony ACID Pro emulating sounds he heard from video games especially the Japanese Dance Dance Revolution. He later began producing hands-up under the alias Ekowraith using FL Studio.
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Marquee Nightclub & Dayclub at The Cosmopolitan is the premier location for the Las Vegas nightlife experience. Located at 3708 Las Vegas Blvd, Marquee is a 60,000 square foot Dave Rockwell venue containing seven different bars and three rooms—the main room, the Boom Box, and The Library—each with a distinct musical experience. Perfect for a corporate event, networking function, bachelorette party, or regular weekend night, the stylish and sophisticated venue offers a full range of food services, from passed hors d'oeuvres to buffet style dining, beverage options, and bottle service. Marquee is also the number one destination for the world's premier music talent, featuring residencies of world-renowned DJs like Kaskade, Benny Benassi, Erick Morillo, and many more. An innovator of Las Vegas nightclubs, Marquee's Main Room features a state-of-the-art sound and visual system with a 40-foot LED DJ booth and projection stage in conjunction with 32,000 subwoofers and full range speakers. Overlooking the Main Floor is the intimate, lounge-style Library room, which is home to a fireplace, billiards table, and vintage books. Be sure to sample some of the specialty cocktails only served in this section of the club. On the lower level of the nightclub is the Boom Box room, featuring gorgeous views of the strip and a separate DJ and sound system, affording patrons a selection in the music and venue they wish to enjoy. Marquee Dayclub includes eight cabanas with infinity pools and 10 three-story bungalow lofts with living quarters and open-air party decks. This luxurious outdoor facility is perfect for rest and relaxation or a pool party, and it features a daytime menu from executive chef Ralf Scamardella. The best DJs in the world will mix and spin you an unforgettable time at Marquee Nightclub & Dayclub. No other Las Vegas club can offer such a completely unique and exciting experience, so make your reservations today!
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An employee benefit at no cost
This guest blog is provided by the Government of Canada's Retail Debt Program who is responsible for implementing and administrating the Canada Savings Bonds Program.
A comprehensive employee benefits package can play a significant role in retaining good employees and attracting new talent. Putting together an attractive benefits package can be a challenge, especially when you are faced with tight budget constraints.
As an employer, you can offer the opportunity to enhance your employees' benefits through the Canada Savings Bonds Payroll Savings Program without straining your budget. It provides a convenient way for your employees to save by using automatic payroll deductions and comes at no cost to your business.
Your employee benefit package could provide access to a savings plan that is:
- Affordable. Employees can contribute as little as $2 per week.
- Risk-free. The investment is fully guaranteed by the Government of Canada.
- Convenient. No bank visits, no paperwork, no hassle. Employees can sign up, contribute and redeem online.
From an employer perspective, there are several reasons to offer the program. It is:
- Easy to administer. You will be provided with all the necessary promotional materials and email templates that you need so there is minimal effort on your part. It is also designed so that employees can manage their own plan using an online account. Your main responsibility is to update an employee payroll data file once a year.
- Appreciated by employees. Your employees will appreciate you bringing this convenient savings tool to them. In addition to helping your employees to save for their financial goals, you will be encouraging good savings habits.
- Free. A no-cost program means you can provide a valued benefit to your employees while working within the limitations of your budget.
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Monogrammable Glass Egg Ornament
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Made of clear, blown glass, this decorative egg is a perfect addition to our Easter Jeweled Tree (sold separately), and makes a great complement to any Easter arrangement. Add a monogram to create a springtime keepsake.
- 3" diameter, 4" high
- Made of blown glass.
- Hangs from a 3.5-inch natural twine cord.
- Dimensions & Care
- 3" diameter, 4" high
- Wipe with a soft dry cloth.
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UPS can deliver most in-stock items within 4-5 business days.
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We can arrange for next day delivery to most destinations within the contiguous 48 states, for an extra charge of $17.50 per address. If we receive your order by 6pm PT Monday through Friday, you'll receive your order the next business day; orders placed on Friday after 6pm PT through Sunday will arrive on Tuesday. Note: Next Day Delivery service is not available for some oversized items, White Glove Delivery, out of stock items, personalized items or for items shipped directly from the manufacturer.
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Fennel, lemon and scallops are tossed with fusilli in this quick and healthy supper.
Nutrition Profile:
Heart Healthy
High Fiber
High Potassium
Low Cholesterol
Low Sat Fat
Low Sodium
Serves 6
Prep Time 30 min
Total Time 30 min.
Step 1
If scallops are large, halve or quarter them, depending on size.
Step 2
Trim base from fennel bulb; remove and discard stalks at the point where they branch from the bulb. Reserve the bulb and chop 2 tablespoons of the feathery leaves. Cut off and discard any discolored parts of the bulb. Quarter the bulb lengthwise, core and slice thinly crosswise. Set aside.
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Cook pasta in a large pot of boiling salted water until just tender, 8 to 10 minutes or according to package directions.
Step 4
Meanwhile, heat oil in a large skillet over medium heat. Add the sliced fennel and garlic, and sauté until the fennel is crisp-tender and beginning to color, about 3 minutes. Add the scallops and sauté until opaque in the center, 1 to 2 minutes more. Add Pernod (or other liqueur) and cook for 30 seconds more.
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Boy, Oh Boy! (From The Files Of Madison Finn, Bk. 2) : When Far Hills Junior High kicks off class elections, Madison is put in charge of the school's election site. Creating the site is easy, until something goes very, very wrong. And just when Madison thinks she's had all the politics she can handle, Dad shows up with HIS new running mate. Is someone plotting a campaign to crush Madison online and off? Ages 8 to 12.
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Children's book author to speak June 18 at Pequot Lakes Library
Another free Minnesota author event sponsored by the Minnesota Legacy Program will take place at 6:30 p.m. Tuesday, June 18, at the Pequot Lakes Library featuring Patrick Mader, Minnesota author from Northfield.
Mader is a children's book author who relates positive messages with a rural setting in his multigenerational books. His presentation will have a focus for children, but everyone is welcome.
"Opa & Oma Together" was published in October 2005 and reprinted in 2006 and 2008. This humble and peaceful story passes on valuable life lessons, drawing on the rural upbringing of the author and his six brothers and sisters.
It received one of only seven Honorable Mention Awards in the Children's Picture Books category of the Writer's Digest's Self-Published Book Awards.
"Oma Finds a Miracle" was launched in 2007 and received notable endorsements from Douglas Wood, author of "Old Turtle," and Dr. David Walsh, founder and president of National Institute on Media and Family. The success of these two books led to publication of a third book, "Big Brother Has Wheels," in 2009. Follow Big Brother's lifetime interest in wheels as he explores beyond the comfortable boundaries of his family farm, rolling through neighboring towns, then nearby states, and finally all across the United States. He drives everything from a tricycle to a forklift. His love of wheels is more than a boyish hobby, it's a ticket to the whole country.
Mader's newest book, "Visiting the Visitors," was released in August 2012 and looks at gratitude and simple gifts around the Christmas story. With this book, Mader continues to celebrate heartwarming, inspirational and intergenerational stories with rural traditions.
Patrick "Packy" Mader grew up with six brothers and sisters on a dairy farm near St. Bonifacius. He attended college in Bismarck, N.D., and later graduated with a degree in elementary education from St. Norbert College in De Pere, Wis.
He is currently a teacher at Morristown Elementary School in south central Minnesota and lives in Northfield with his wife, Karen, and their two children.
This free Legacy Program is funded in part or in whole with money from the vote of the people of Minnesota on Nov. 4, 2008, that dedicated funding to preserve Minnesota's art and cultural heritage.


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The DeRidder Dragons are all grown up now. The St. Louis Saints have recovered their early season mojo. The teams meet this afternoon with sole possession of first place in District 4-4A on the line.
First pitch is set for 3:30 p.m. at Legion Field.
DeRidder (16-6, 3-0) has won six of its last seven and handed Beau Chene its first district loss Tuesday with a 6-2 road win. The Dragons have surpassed their win total from last season, when they went 12-21.
DeRidder head coach Chad Menard said the Dragons have stopped hurting themselves.
"We have stopped giving the other team freebies — walks, hit batters, errors — so now our pitchers don't have to make as many outs," he said. "Offensively, we do not strike out as much and are able to put more pressure on the defense."
The Dragons start six seniors and three juniors.
"That is definitely a huge factor," Menard said. "We are very mature when we take the field. We don't get startled. When adversity arises, we know how to handle it. This game will keep you humble. There will be situations that arise where you fail. You have to continue to play hard for a complete game. We play hard now, we continue to compete regardless of the score or situation."
St. Louis (16-7, 4-0) started the season with eight straight wins, then lost seven of nine but has won six straight. Five of the six wins have been shutouts.
"We just got back to working on things we do well, not worrying about scouting reports or anything," said Saints head coach Chad Hebert. "We play a lot of small ball, hit and run. We do the all the little things well, take extra bases when we can. We don't have a lot of power in our lineup."
Hebert said the Saints have several good options on the mound.
"Brant McNease, Garrett Harless and Michael Eccles have gotten us through the tough games and we hope they can continue to do that for us. (DeRidder) plays hard, is well-coached. They were junior-heavy last year, now those guys are seniors. They have played a tough schedule and gotten some nice wins. I have a lot of respect for them."


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Welcome to the Quilting Board!
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NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
good mothers let you lick the beaters - great mothers turn it off first
I don't think it's status for a $100 machine like a 301, Miriam. A hundred bucks is nothing for a sewing machine in today's market. If I wanted a status symbol I'd get a fancy Bernina. Oh wait, I have a fancy Bernina:> I believe it's more that it's loved by many people and quilters for being a fabulous all around piecing and quilting machine. That's why it's talked about so often. I think most of the women in my guild think I'm poor since I only bring "old" machines to groups. LOL. No status upgrade at all for bringing my 301's.
a featherweight isnt a status symbol. atleast to me it isnt. i love the way they look. very similar to my 15-91. i love the shiny black and gold.
and no, the cheapest one from walmart isnt for me. 1. mostly plastic. i like to buy things once and be done. not buy and in 2 years replacing because it is worn out. quality is what i am after.
people and friends and family that know me, know vintage is my thing. i refinish furniture for my house. i redo metal porch gliders. my kitchen...well it could have been in the 50's/60's. my husband even restores old cars and trucks. when the opportunity presents itsself for us to buy another house, it will also be old, and i dont mean 20 years old. its who i am, its what i love. vintage.
my daughter will be using a cheaper machine from walmart or somewhere because she is a beginner. im not going to spend the money on her a vintage machine just for her to realise that sewing isnt something she is really into. me however, it will be used and loved. im not taking the classes for me to "learn to sew", i am taking them with her to give us something to do together and to be there incase she needs help during the class. more than likely when the classes start, i will be the only one with an older machine. at the shop we are taking classes at, is pushing baby locks and other higher end models.
so again, it has nothing to do with a status symbol. and i dont want to buy junk. i asked for other models that were good, i am just more familiar with the featherweights. i received several recommendations on other models and brands, and i am researching.
again, vintage is me. its what i love and what i search for. if i walk into the sewing class with a "new" machine and someone there knows me, im sure i will have some explaining to do. =)
It would be easier to say what machines are junk.
Plastic = JUNK
Stamped metal = JUNK
Some vintage machines ARE better than others. If you can come up with a real nice high end European - some of those are very nice vinatage machines. I'm partial to Elna - the old blue ones are nice. Some people are partial to vintage Pfaff or Viking or Bernina... I think it also depends on how much money you have to burn. If you buy any vintage machine that has been reconditioned, expect to pay a bit more depends too on who reconditioned it. I think the main thing is that you have fun with it. I guess since I learned on a FW I don't see it as any big deal.
Some how I have not been able to load pictures any more - I don't know what changed. I had hoped to load some pics... bummer...
NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
good mothers let you lick the beaters - great mothers turn it off first
Y'all might recognize yourself in my post.
I went to an estate buyer's yard sale today and was looking through their stuff when one of the guys recognized me as the gal who had bought all 3 of their DSM at the last yard sale. I admitted to it and he said they hadn't acquired any machines lately but would be getting one, possibly 2 next week, and was I interested? Does a bear s**t in the woods??? Of course I was interested and happily gave them my name and number and siad I'd be back home late Wed afternoon and be free to look at them then. They have no idea what the machines are but are happy to know of a potential buyer. I am happy to have potential, close machines to look at and these guys are reasonable on the prices cuz they want to move the merchandise.
I meant to behave......but there were too many other options
I am looking at this beauty tomorrow. He thinks it's a Singer cabinet. Well, I have plenty of homeless Singers.
I meant to behave......but there were too many other options