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Routers are one of the most versatile woodworking tools, useful not just for making trim and cutting edges, but for solving a whole range of woodworking problems. Learn how to cut curves, straighten boards, flatten bows and much more.
Cut slots for biscuits with a slot cutter mounted on an arbor that's equipped with a bearing. Cut a continuous slot on boards thicker than 3/4 in.
No. 20 biscuits will fit perfectly in the 1/2-in. slot created by a slot bit.
Change the depth of cut of the slot cutter by changing the bearing size.
If you want to make biscuit joints, you don't have to buy a biscuit joiner. In most cases, a router equipped with a 5/32-in. slot bit can cut perfect slots to fit the biscuits. Mark the biscuit positions on both adjoining boards as you would with a biscuit joiner. Then cut a slot that's about 1/2 in. longer than the biscuit. On thick boards, you don't even have to mark out anything; just cut one quick, continuous slot on each board. Add glue and biscuits and then clamp it to create a strong joint.
There are two situations where a router can't substitute for a biscuit joiner: A router can cut slots only along the edges of a board, not across its face; and it can only cut along square edges, not beveled ones. Most slot cutters cut slots about 1/2 in. deep, which suits No. 20 biscuits. If you want to use smaller biscuits, buy a kit that includes three bearing sizes for No. 0, No. 10 and No. 20 biscuits (available online and at woodworking stores).
Make a base plate for use with a trammel, stretcher or other jig from 1/4-in. acrylic.
Use a large piece of 3/8-in. acrylic to make a quick router table.
When I get a new router, the first thing I do is explain to my wife why I need yet another power tool. The second thing I do is remove the plastic base plate. Then I make a plate that's a few inches larger than the original from 1/4-in.-thick acrylic. I use the original plate as a template to position the screw holes and the center hole. Acrylic has sharp edges, so I round them slightly with sandpaper. In about five minutes, I have an oversized plate that I can fasten to a trammel, stretchers, or any other jigs I dream up. One of my routers is mounted on a 12 x 12-in. piece of 3/8-in.-thick acrylic and does double duty. Although it's a bit big and clumsy, I can use it as a handheld router. Or I can screw it to a pair of sawhorses, attach a primitive fence, and use it as a portable job-site router table.
Run a pattern bit along a guide to cut a straight edge. For thick boards, remove the guide after the first pass.
Use the first cut to guide the second pass. Make a third pass if necessary.
Pattern bits have a bearing above the cutting bit; the cutting bit follows whatever the bearing is riding against. Bits with bearings on the bottom are also available.
When you have a crooked board, the best tool for creating a straight, smooth edge is a "jointer." When you want to shave down a door just a little—more than a sander can handle, but not enough for a saw—a handheld power planer is best.
If you don't have these tools, try the second-best solution for either of these jobs: a router with a "pattern" bit (a straight bit guided by a bearing). Just clamp or screw a straight guide to the workpiece. The router's bearing rolls along the guide, and the bit cuts a straight, smooth edge. Use plywood, MDF or a perfectly straight board as your guide. Inspect the edge of the guide before you rout; any bump or crater in the guide will transfer to the workpiece. If you're shaving off more than 1/8 in. of wood, make multiple passes no more than 1/4 in. deep. Choose a pattern bit that's at least 1/2 in. in diameter. The larger the diameter, the less risk there is of chipped, splintered cuts. "Top bearing" bits are more versatile than versions that have a bearing below the cutter.
Plane boards or panels flat with a straight bit. To keep the cutting depth uniform, screw your router base to stretchers that ride on rails. Hold the workpiece with blocks.
Straight bits have a wide variety of uses, among them flattening uneven surfaces.
Whether it's a cupped board or a panel that was misaligned during glue-up, the best way to flatten wood is to run it through a planer. But even if you have a planer, you've probably encountered situations where it's not wide enough to handle the job. Here's how you can use your router with a straight bit to plane wide material: Mount an oversized base plate on your router and screw the base plate to a pair of stiff, straight "stretchers." Make your stretchers at least twice as long as the width of the workpiece, plus 8 in. Make a pair of rails at least 8 in. longer than the workpiece. The height of your rails depends on the length of your router bit. Plane the "crowned" side of the workpiece first. To do this, slide the stretchers back and forth across the rails. This is a slow process; you may have to make several passes, lowering the bit about 1/8 in. after each pass. When the crowned side is flat, flip the workpiece over and flatten the "dished" side. Routers leave a rough surface, so both sides will need sanding.
Create a smooth pattern from 1/2-in. MDF. Clamp or screw the pattern to a rough-cut workpiece and cut the final smooth shape with a pattern bit.
With a finished pattern and a pattern bit, you can quickly make copies of complex shapes.
Cutting shapes with a pattern bit has two advantages over cutting with a jigsaw, band saw or scroll saw: Because you perfect the pattern first, you won't make mistakes when you cut the workpiece. And when you're making several identical parts, a pattern saves time, since you do the fussy shaping work only once.
To make the bracket pattern shown here, we cut 1/2-in. MDF with a jigsaw and perfected the shape with a belt sander. We traced the pattern onto boards and rough-cut each bracket, leaving about 1/8 in. excess to be removed by the router. We made the pattern and each rough bracket about an inch too long so we could drive screws through them rather than use clamps, which often get in the way of the router. The screw holes were cut off when we cut the brackets to their final length. As with straight-guide cuts, you may have to make several shallow passes and then a final pass after you remove the pattern.
Duplicate thin trim by first routing the profile on a wide board. Then sand the profile smooth and cut off the finished piece with a table saw.
Round-over bits come in a wide range of sizes. Use them for edges and custom trim.
If you need to replace a piece of trim but can't find a match for the wood species or profile at a home center, walk over to the tool aisle and check out the router bits. Sometimes a router bit—or a combination of two bits—can reproduce a trim profile. Rounded edges and coves are the easiest to match. A 1/2-in. round-over bit, for example, produces perfect base shoe molding.
If your router is designed to accept 1/2-in. bits, go that direction for higher quality results.
Most home centers and hardware stores carry only common bits. For slot cutters or pattern bits, visit a supplier that caters to woodworkers. To buy online, type ìrouter bitsî into any search engine and you'll find dozens of sources.
Many bits are available with either 1/4-in. or 1/2-in. shanks. If your router takes both shank sizes, go with the beefier 1/2-in. bit. It's not much more expensive, and because it's a thicker, stronger bit (more than four times the mass of a 1/4-in. bit), it will be less prone to breaking, wobbling or vibrating. A more solid bit means a cleaner cut. And the additional mass will also do a better job of dissipating heat and lessen the chance of burning a profile.
If you have a 1/4-in. router that doesn't come with an optional 1/2-in. collet (the part that receives the bit), you may be tempted to buy an adapter so it can take a bigger bit. Don't. It doesn't have the same power and torque to run 1/2-in. bits. Save your 1/4-in. router for light stuff such as profiling edges and laminate work. Buy a router designed to accept 1/2-in. bits for heavier work.
Cut a recess on the underside of cracked furniture parts. Force glue into the crack, clamp it together and glue plywood into the recess to strengthen the repair.
When a table top or chair seat splits, you might be able glue the crack back together. But often the crack is too dirty and splintered to form a strong glue joint. And even with a good glue joint, the stresses that caused the split in the first place may crack it open again.
Here's how to make a stronger repair: Cut a recess in the back side of the wood with a 1/2- or 3/4-in. straight bit and glue in a plywood "scab." Make the recess deep enough to accept plywood that's about half the thickness of the wooden part. When cutting the recess, start at the crack and work outward, gradually enlarging the recess. If you have to deepen the recess with a second pass, you may have to make a homemade base plate large enough to span the recess.
Connect your router to a trammel and screw the trammel to a block. Cut the arc by making repeated shallow passes with a straight or spiral bit.
Spiral bits make fast, clean cuts, and are perfect for cuts made with a trammel.
Often, you can create a curve that's "good enough" using a jigsaw followed by a belt sander. But when an arc or a circle has to be flawless, a router is the perfect tool. Some careful setup is required, but the results are worth it. Mount an oversized base plate on your router so you can screw it to a 1x4 trammel. Before you start cutting the arc, raise the bit just above the wood. Then position it at the top of the arc and at both ends to make sure the cutting path is correct. When you cut, make shallow passes no more than 1/4 in. deep. Keep the router moving to avoid burn marks. You can use a 1/2-in. or smaller straight bit or a spiral bit to cut arcs. Spiral bits cut faster with less chipping, but they cost about twice as much as standard straight bits. Don't use a spiral bit that's smaller than 3/8 in. diameter. Small spiral bits break easily when you're making deep cuts.
Round sharp wood edges with a small round-over bit. Run a 1/8-in. round-over bit along door bottoms to prevent splinters and snags on carpet.
Small round-over bits transform sharp, splintery edges into subtly eased edges that feel better to the touch and glide over carpet.
Whether you're building furniture or installing trim, avoid leaving sharp edges on wood. They're more likely to chip, splinter or dent with everyday use. Sharp edges also create weak spots in paint and other finishes, leading to cracking and peeling, especially outdoors. Fussy carpenters often ease sharp edges with sandpaper or a file. But a 1/16- or 1/8-in. round-over bit does the job more consistently and neatly. These small-profile bits are difficult to set at the correct cutting depth, so always test the cut on scrap wood first.
Have the necessary tools for this DIY project lined up before you start—you'll save time and frustration.
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I make mine 45 x 45 . Because the ones I received for my son were too small. Also you can use them longer. They out grow the small ones so fast.
Welcome to the Quilting Board!
I make mine 45 x 45 . Because the ones I received for my son were too small. Also you can use them longer. They out grow the small ones so fast.
Vicki Mc in SC
We have four nieces that are having babies this fall! My sisters and I were talking about making receiving blankets. The ones that were made for our babies were square WOF, which was closer to 45" 30 years ago. The ones that I've seen in the store look so small.
Since flannel and quilting cottons seem to be ever narrower, I'm thinking about some other options. Dharma Trading Company has some heavy cotton gauze that is 50" wide after washing that I may order. It looks like the same gauze used in a popular brand of swaddling/receiving blanket. Since it only comes in white, I could bind or serge the edges in a color.
I make mine sq. also 45x45 0r 42x42, what ever the WOF is.
If i only have a yard i will still sq. it up, then use the piece i trim off as trim for a burp pad(made using a diaper). makes a nice set.
I found a gr8t tute for you. This is so cute...super fast and easy!
(I would wash the fabrics first - they don't all shrink at an equal rate)
If one wraps a baby burrito (or papoose) style, the square ones work better than the rectangle ones.
If one uses them just as a cover in bassinet or crib, rectangle would probably be better.
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Cute fabric.
When my children were small 50 years ago, the flannel continued to shrink. Glad the quality of flannel is better now.
The 100% cotton was better quality back in the day, at least in my opinion, but the dyes seem better now
I choose to give my life away for things that last forever
I do mine 42 x 42 for two reasons. If they want to swaddle, it is much easier if the blanket is larger and also, later on, they can lay it on the floor while the baby is doing tummy time and such. I love to put decorative stitching around the hems (all sides) and I use variegated thread. My daughter was very impressed, I didn't tell her that the machine did all the work...lol
I use to pieces of flannel square WOF. I round the corners and then envelope them together and top stitch around them. I use my edge foot to top stitch close to edge and this closes up the gap left to turn so no hand whip stitching it to close. My daughter loved this size.
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Four years ago, our infrastructure ranked sixth. Now it's 16th. Canada, England, Hong Kong, South Korea, and Singapore rank higher.
That's why I find this month's cover story simultaneously compelling and cautionary. The 800,000 residents of a Midwestern city have agreed to commit $3 billion — half the stimulus allocation for state water and wastewater revolving loans combined — over two decades to ensure their undersized wastewater system doesn't belch as much untreated sewage into surrounding rivers. In fact, public works managers were able to lower by more than $500,000 how much their customers will pay. But getting there involved extensive partnering with the private sector, vociferous support by the mayor, and controversial approaches (can anyone say "value engineering"?).
If we continue to maintain that infrastructure is a shared public asset, we've got several options.
We can send our taxpayer dollars to Washington and hope they're returned via loans or grants. We can pay local water and sewer utilities appropriately for the life-giving service they provide, which includes supporting the upgrades necessary to comply with Clean Water Act programs we the people have mandated. We can quit ham-stringing the men and women attempting to satisfy these mandates by insisting that design-bid-build always provides the best value for our investment. We can change our definition of "clean" water.
The Obama administration's recognition of infrastructure is heartening, but whatever our elected officials provide for funding programs will never eliminate the need for additional contributions from someone, somewhere, somehow. So perhaps it's time to rethink our wants versus our needs and update decades-old models (can anyone say "federal gas tax formula"?) to reflect today's realities.
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[quote user="mjg407"]Ashlee Simpson welcomed her first child last night, a son, with husband Pete wentz, and was there any doubt these ******s were given give the kid an awful embarrassing name? People says...

Bronx Mowgli Wentz weighed 7 lbs., 11 oz., and was 20 1/2 inches long.
"Ashlee, Pete and baby Bronx are all healthy and happy, and thank everyone for their well wishes!" a spokesperson tells PEOPLE.
Thats right. "Bronx Mowgli". As in the kid from the Jungle Book. It might as well be, "Sexually Confused Emo Give Me My Book Bag Back", but that wouldnt cutely shorten into "BMW". The two names are pretty much the same thing. I know all these idiot Hollywood parents think they need to give their kid some special identity with their name, and oh, I assure you it will work. Hell be the most distinctive kid face down in the mud while Mike and Jack high five each other and walk away from the kid with the ***gity name.[/quote]

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Any idea who got most of his Breeders. Wondering who will be a source for Pol-Line queens
Any idea who got most of his Breeders. Wondering who will be a source for Pol-Line queens
Cam Bishop
Hi Cam, hope you're well.
Tom sent some of his Pol-Line breeding stock out to queen rearers. The USDA also got some back.
We'll be getting some of Tom's Pol-Line stock this Spring to work with.
We (vpqueenbees) also get Pol-Line germplasm (semen) from the USDA and use it in our breeding program: our Italian VSH (allegro) has Pol-Line in it.
We also produce pure Pol-Line breeder queens and we're planning to work with several other queen producers who have Pol-Line stock to continue to keep the line going.
If in doubt about the source of Pol-Line, check with the producer and see where they obtained their Pol-Line breeding material. T
The Pol-Line world is pretty small!
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I have heard of Pol-Line bees, could you please enlighten me with the origin and the characteristics they were bred for
OK, lets see if I have this right. The USDA selected a number of the best hives from a comercial operation that had some VSH stock, of italian origin I guess. they continued to breed from them selecting for honey production and varoa tolerance,and they appeared to be better than the VSH hives they were compared to.
My understanding, and I don't claim to be an expert, is that the USDA took VSH virgin queens that were outcrossed through open mating in a commercial setting. These outcrossed VSH queens were compared to Russian, and two types of control colonies (Italians). All these were placed into a commercial setting and evaluated. This occurred in 2008 and 2009. In 2011 more VSH outcrosses were added and tested in a commercial setting, with the highest performers being added to the gene pool of the first VSH outcrosses from 2008 and 2009. These groups of outcrosses are what is now considered as Pol-Line bees. At least that's my current understanding.
Since we're on the subject of Glenn queens, can anyone answer this question? In 2011 I bought five Glenn inseminated queens. One pol-line, one pure dark VSH, one Cordovan and two carnies. Two were superceded almost immediatly. (One carnie and the cordovan) The hives were moved in fall of 2011 and only one original queen overwintered.
This hive (I thought) was marked Glenn Carniolan, but my writing on the hive had faded somewhat by spring.
I grafted from this original inseminated queen all summer, but always wondered if she was the VSH or the Pol-line. I thought the carnie queen was darker that this.
Here is the photo of the original Glenn queen taken this fall:
And one of her daughters. They were all identical in color to Momma:
I'm overwintering about 20 daughters that were the most prolific of the bunch.
Any guesses as to which variety my original breeder queen is?
Does she still have the numbered disk? If you saved your invoice you should be able to reference her number on the invoice to the disk. If you don't have the invoice and only have her number then perhaps the Glenn's are still responding to emails? However, since you said VSH dark, then my guess is that your girl is likely the Pol-line. Not surprising - every one that I've gotten has been pretty hardy.
The testing and development is ongoing. People have been very happy with the results.
Adam Finkelstein
I'm sorry to be realistic, but determining what a queen's pedigree is from how she looks, isn't very realistic.
She has the coloration of Pol-Line, VSH, some of our Allegro crosses, etc. etc.
I'd judge her on her overall performance and if she's good, use her to make more daughters!
Adam Finkelstein
I aree with Adam on this. When choosing breeders I like to claim I am not racist. In recent years, though, it seems like I have had to institute a policy similar to what colleges use in their admissions to get at least some color diversity. The darker bees always seem to get overwhelmed by the good ole Italian. BTW love those "stripers" as I like to call them......at least until you try to find them. Notice the workers are both dark and yellow, I always assume I am getting the best of both worlds when I see this kind of diversity.
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Thanks for the replies,guys.
Ya, I knew she was a Glenn at least and just kept the best daughters to overwinter. I didn't want to bother the Glenns at a busy time of year, and I did look on my invoice but did not see a correlation to her #1 disk number on the list.
If she was the VSH however, I'd use her as more of a drone mother.
I'll just go with the flow and see where it take me.
Last edited by Lauri; 11-27-2012 at 04:22 PM.
Fwiw I did get some Glenn VSH queens and they were fairly dark. None of the 12 I bought lasted more than a year nor did they head very remarkable hives but, of course, that's to be expected with II queens. The overall end result I believe was positive.
"People will generally accept facts as truth only if the facts agree with what they already believe."- Andy Rooney
Yes Jim, that describes my Glenn queen too. Never amounted to much of a colony with the breeder queen. Too Hygienic I expect.
None of the queens I grafted compared to the daughters of my breeder queen of unknown lineage-I collected from a swarm in 2011. Daughters from that queen were Amazingly exceptional in many ways, including laying a full week earlier than my other lines after being bred. They were larger sized when hatched and had faster build up.
I got four different colored daughters out of that queen and have about 50 of them overwintering in nucs.
how is 1 to get 1 of these of spring of the pol-line queen daughters. do any 1 have some for sale?????
If you are looking for a breeder queen, Adam at VP Queens would be one to talk to.
Velbert here on Beesource has an excellent Pol-line breeder. He shipped me two daughters recently. They arrived on time and in great shape.
I bought 12 from VP Queens this year. 8 Pol-Line and 4 VSH. I purchased virgins so they would be immediatly crossed with my stock here which are mostly Carniolan hybrids. Had 100% acceptance & return mated rate. Thay are laying very well.
If they overwinter well, I'll choose the best to graft from in 2015. I sell on a limited basis.
Last edited by Lauri; 07-21-2014 at 05:52 AM.
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Carniolan Hybrids. Glenn & Wild lines.
Got some from Velbert. Great queens and quite gentle. Reasonably priced. I recommend them over the VSH queens -
Cam Bishop
It's kind of like having a race horse with Man-o-War in it's ancestry. The advantage was that the line came from a few hives of crosses that were not only surviving rough, migratory beekeeping practices, but thriving as well.
The Glenns continued to improve the stock through I.I. Since the practice was stopped, most are open-mated, so some are better, some are worse. I expect that an adept hand like Adam is breeding some excellent stock, and it appears that Lauri's Pol-Line descendants should do very well. Glad to hear Velbert has some, too.
Put me on the list. PM me with prices. I have a few queens that have gone a bit defensive. They'll make it this winter, and I'd like to re-queen them next year with pure Pol-Line or descendants. Thank you.
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Discussion in '2009 Playoffs' started by max, Apr 16, 2009.
I'm pointing out that he is not what he used to be but he refuses to accept reality.
I'm in semi-agreement about the championship but Sheed alone didn't cost those appearances.
for the people in the chat room today: Told yall ........
Tay WISHES he had an ass and chest like THAT!!!
I think they should start Rip, Tay, Stuckey, Bynum and AA next game if the bigs don't want to play. They can use 2 guys to set Rip's screens if they need to. I really think LeBron is going to wear down as the series progresses. Tay made him work hard for his points. I knew Tay would have a good game today when the first time he caught the ball today (in the backcourt on an inbounds) he stood perfectly still for 4 seconds before he started to bring the ball up. He then gave the ball up, wove through traffic and caught the ball by the right elbow and stood still for 4 more seconds before he left his shot short (No really, he left it short). I had to laugh when after running Rip off his myriad of screens to nowhere they passed to Tay in the corner with 5 seconds left on the shot clock and LeBron on him. The only uncertainty I had of the forthcoming missed was because I thought he might just stand there until the buzzer sounded.
Somebody with heart.
If you are having trouble with the English language, I suggest a good dictionary. Couple: Two or three. I was writing fast, and I meant to mention that Bron stayed over for the first couple of minutes of GT, where Herrmann was given the opportunity to show how utterly useless he is.
I do not appreciate being laughed at. I was not in chat. I will accept your heart felt apology in advance.
I am very surprised by what I saw today. I saw a Pistons team that pretty much laid down for the Cavs. You could see the look in their eyes. That look we have seen the past couple of seasons right in the closing minutes of a series ending loss. The sad thing is that look appeared late in the 3rd qtr of game 1. I don't think this team has any confidence in each other or Curry. I thought they would atleast put up a fight and win a couple of games, but now I just don't know. It could go either way. These guy's could just fold like a blanket and get swept. No matter the case it is in excusable to get blown out in game 1 and let the Cavs shoot 53% from the floor. You know what you are getting with LeBron and the Cavs. The Pistons had 3 days to prepare for him. You mean to tell me Curry come up with any type of skeem to fluster LeBron and the Cavs and atleast win game 1 or atleast lose a close game? Curry sucks and he should be fired. At this point Joe D. is on thin ice too in my book. I am starting to think John Hammond was the brains behind this outfit.
There isn't any confidence. Someone wrote a great article on the CB trade and by extension what the trade said about the goals of this season to the existing players, but i don't remember who/where. They're not stupid. They know that they were essentially given up on as a group (whether rightfully so or not). I don't see the "giving up" thing as much as we are over matched, we know it, our coach is a rookie, he's struggling, and everything that we currently try is useless. They are either going to put their head down or blow up; so it's pick your poison. Do we want to see defeat in their eyes or ejections? It's easy to close your eyes, and fight tooth and nail with little to no hope if you are a naive young team, and even then there's a point where you just realize you can't win. Someone else mentioned how the experience actually hurts the Pistons, not helps them, and IMO that's 100% true for the reason above among others.
It was Kenny Smith. He said that the Pistons experiencing championship runs will hurt them instead of help because they know that this team is nothing near those championship teams.
Btw lpgrl Lebron didn't approve of your criticism of his post up game, apparently.
i know its like a sat night Live skitI feel like Kevin eubanks from the Tonight show!Oh Snap!!
Team: the meltdown in cleveland Game 6 and the no show vs Shaq vs the Heat. Do u remember anything he did in that series?
Remember what Tay didn't do against Lebron?
Who HAS stopped lebron? Im talking about Sheed! Duncan helped out Bowen vs LeBron....where was Lassheed's help?
That's really sayin something because two of those guys are dead.
I agree with this 100%.
I won't disagree that Sheed slacks off...but I will disagree that he was the root problem in those series.
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Mar 3, 2014 at 11:12 am #1313971
I received the renewal for the health insurance I provide my employees. I pay a portion they pay the rest. Average increase was 44%. Low was 29% and high is 63%. Some of these people will have to drop insurance on themselves or family members. They already had good coverage. Thanks Barry………..Mar 3, 2014 at 12:49 pm #2079041
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http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/ransomnotesradio/2014/03/01/hurt-by-obamacare-harry-reid-says-youre-a-liar-n1802473Mar 3, 2014 at 10:18 pm #2079230
Scott JonesSpectator
The correct name is Romney Care and the idea was hatched in the Heritage Foundation a few years back. The Heritage Foundation is a right wing think tank (talk about an oxymoron).
Anyhow Obamacare as you call it is not government health care. You will notice that all the providers are private insurance carriers such as Blue Cross, Blue Shield etc. Like auto insurance (everyone is required to have it by law) the idea is to lower premiums by having a larger insurance pool which means "everyone". I have not yet heard anyone complain about auto insurance and having it.
Anyway, even with this evil Romney Care in place where I work my company managed to replace the old plan with a superior platinum plan at a lower cost. My Deductible went from $5,000 down to $1,000.00 and the benefits were better. My boss had sense enough to actually explore all the different plans out there. By actually looking at the market and seeing what was out there we actually managed to save money. Now the boss was for Romney and against the so called Obamacare which is actually Romney care. Needless to say he even admitted that we got a better deal.Mar 4, 2014 at 5:31 am #2079260
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I don't know about insurance, but there WAS a letter in my hometown paper the other day complaining about how many thousands of dollars this guy had paid in tickets for not wearing a seatbelt. Wackos are out there…
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Twenty-five years ago, I moved from my Johnstown home to the Bible Belt. I purchased a front-bumper license plate that read: "Buckle-up with Jesus." Over the years, that $5 trinket has cost me more than $5,000 in multiple seat-belt violations, fines and court costs.
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At least if he's not wearing seat belt he'll be able to get health care : )Mar 4, 2014 at 10:13 am #2079340
Ken MillerMember
@powderpiggyLocale: Colorado
The Hill is reporting another major delay is in the works for a the ACA. Even they characterize it as a political move to dampen the impact on Democrats in the mid term elections.
Thankfully our President has the experience, knowledge and foresight to know what's best for us and can use his power to enforce or enact laws as he sees fit.
In the meantime, the backend of the process is still not complete. No one wants to speak on how many people have actually paid for a policy. Apparently that data is not available….sure!
I do enjoy watching Obama's loyal lemmings progress from blaming Bush for everything to taking responsibility.
The Heritage Foundation and Romney are now the culprits, too funny.
How about the Koch brothers, aren't they pulling the strings.
Man up, the Emperor has no clothes!!Mar 4, 2014 at 12:16 pm #2079380
Just think if it was actually state-provided health care like he wanted instead of having to cater to the private insurance companies who still need to make money but now also need to actually provide a cost-effective service. Surprisingly, the insurance companies are now realizing that providing the actual service they claimed to "provide" in the past costs more because they're actually forced to spend that money on actual care and not just lining their pockets while kicking the sick (expensive patients) off their plans.
We wouldn't need to be shopping for plans and the premiums would be much lower because everyone would be signed in to one system and able to reap true economies of scale. But of course we needed to let capitalism and the "free-market" work.Mar 4, 2014 at 1:02 pm #2079396
There are a couple different things happenning with this renewal that are "obamacarisms"
Our group is no longer rated by our groups actual costs but by a regional rating. All other things being equal our costs went up 10% because of this
All of our available programs changed, there are a few positive nuanced improvements. But on the whole the new plans are a step backwards for my folks. The market here is dominated by Kaiser, I personally have the only other option which is equally as ugly. Most of my people will now have what is now called a GOLD program, if they can afford to stay on it.
The giant difference is how children 19+ are handled. They can stay on their parents policy, BUT, the rate for each adult child is determined as if they bought the same policy for themselves. So, employee A has a spouse and 2 college age adult children on his policy. Currently pays $100 per month for the 1st child and 0 for the second. He will now pay $296 each child per month. The $296 jives exactly with the cost of a 21-24 y/o covered individually with the same plan.
So one of the big selling points of the ACA was you could keep your adult children on your policy until they're 26. Technically that is true. The S is going to hit the fan when Mommy and Daddy learn that there is zero cost benefit to keep them on the family policy.
Most small business policies renew June 1 (like ours) or year end. So what I'm seeing here is the first wave of Obamacare's hit on small business policies.
Because of the ever growing cost of healthcare and government's influence over it I decided this morning to freeze our program; continue on for those enrolled, and close future enrollment to all others. I have 25 employees and intend to keep the number way below the magic(bad magic) number of 50.Mar 4, 2014 at 1:27 pm #2079405
that's interesting
the "you can have your kids on your policy" is only advantageous if they can't get their own policy because of pre-existing conditions, but since that exclusion is gone, it doesn't make much difference now
I went to coveroregon.com and did an individual plan age 21 – $89 per month, family of 4 – $490, family of 5 – $619 – so to add a fifth person costs $129. That's weird, more expensive to add to my family plan than to just "kick the bird out of the nest".
the "you can have your kids on your policy" was only useful for the couple years before full implementation – at least based on these two casesMar 4, 2014 at 2:25 pm #2079426
Just checked the absolute cheapest premium plan offered by Kaiser (small business policies) for a 21 y/o, it is $188.98…..it has a $5000 deductible before insurance starts to help. Not too practical for a person just starting out.
I think many people with kids believed that their adult children would stay on there policies at a reduced rate, not full bore.I expect some blowback on it. A policy with a more tolerable deductable is $296. I wondered how the young people were going to subsidize older people when they could stay on the folk's policy until 26. Now I know.
Several years ago when my eldest son went to college we bought a basic student policy sold through the school for $150 a semester. Those policies are no longer legal. I guess replaced by $300 a month.
This is going to stress middle class families even more….can't be good for the economy.Mar 4, 2014 at 2:34 pm #2079431
"The market here is dominated by Kaiser, I personally have the only other option which is equally as ugly. "
Unfortunately this is the most critical piece your post as to why your premiums are what they are. Kaiser has long been known to go in, dominate a market push out competitors, overcharge and under deliver… The walmart of healthcare. The fact that you only have one other possible option to go to speaks to the lack of supply which enables them to also overcharge. Without any real meaningful and substantial competition Kaiser can pretty much run up the price on you.
Not to mention that they basically force you to go in network and only work with Kaiser providers further creating a monopoly on the care that you receiveMar 4, 2014 at 3:14 pm #2079451
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@hknewmanLocale: Western US
… dominate a market push out competitors, overcharge and under deliver
A number of markets (i.e. zip codes or counties) with one or two insurers are seeing higher prices vs. other markets with several competitors, which are seeing lower (not eligible for ACA myself, more an academic pursuit). Also included is the amount of claims filed. So healthy zip codes with ski areas are seeing higher premiums since there are more accidents (this is all from business articles – I imagine less active US zip codes probably have more medical bills covered by Medicare and/or Medicaid since it will be a while before the first granny breaks her hip on the snowboard half pipe). Same as auto insurance when I asked my insurer why my rate doubled when moving to a neighboring county (before I flipped and rolled that 4WD, that is…). The insurer told me the accident rate for that county was high.
Semi-related, visiting a US dentist recently, the exam/cleaning room is now like a multi-bay assembly line with no separation where neighboring patient consultations could be overheard — since there were no walls. Nice to know my chompers are in very good shape vs the rest of the city's btw, … but how efficient do we need to be squeezing every penny out for shareholders?
ed: emph/wc/brMar 4, 2014 at 3:26 pm #2079453
The fewer options have to Schopenhauer from on the exchanges the higher your premiums will be due to less competition. This article basically supports this idea.
The states which had the lowest premiums had an average of 8 exchanges to shop from while the states with the highest rates had an average or 3. That's not a coincidence. Neither is the fact that most of the states with the highest premiums are those who chose not to participate in the federal exchange program or did so only late in the game, under duress which led to less competition because smaller insurers couldn't get their act together in enough time to participate, effectively shutting them out. They didn't have a cadre of 100 lawyers able to ensure compliance unlike the larger companies; while also trying to provide actual coverage on a local level.
Rates also vary by the amount of people participating in order to spread the cost, it's again no coincidence that in areas where there is greater population density such as Texas and California, on average the rates are lower per individual or family whereas in places such as Wyoming they are higherMar 4, 2014 at 3:48 pm #2079461
I'm sitting in Napa CA and the region as far as rating is concerned is North/East SF bay area. Several hundred thousand people at least. We have several insurers to choose from but relativily few providers. Most of the non Kaiser doctors work for one of two decent size medical groups. But, the vast majority of the business goes to Kaiser.
One of the consequences of the ACA, and earlier government intrusions, is that the day when a doctor could hang a shingle has largely past. There are simply too many regulations, lawyers and uncertainty to risk going it alone. Hence, a few large providers with little incentive to be price competitive and to few reasons to keep medically unneccessary procedures to a minimum.Mar 4, 2014 at 10:18 pm #2079572
Scott JonesSpectator
Hey Ken,
Perhaps you should read the Forbes article. Yep, the Heritage Foundation promoted the the idea of the individual mandate.
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Read it and weep.Mar 5, 2014 at 7:18 am #2079620
One thing interesting about that Forbes article is that Gingrich supported the individual mandate as a tactic to defeat Hillarycare.
He was so sincere at the time when he said the individual mandate was such a great idea : )
Hmmm, I wonder if everything he says is just a political tactic?
What about Paul Ryan?Mar 5, 2014 at 8:01 am #2079632
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"Like auto insurance (everyone is required to have it by law)"
Only people who choose to become licensed to operate a motorized vehicle on a public roadway, and then proceed to do so, are required to obtain auto insurance. That's a pretty defining requisite, is voluntary, and it certainly isn't "everyone".
So what is the defining requisite that we voluntarily chose to partake in that nessecitates the need for health insurance?
Also, I can't speak for all states, but pretty sure the only required auto insurance, doesn't cover you, just the damage you cause to somebody else.Mar 5, 2014 at 8:19 am #2079641
And what happens if something unexpectedly happens to you and you "choose" not to have health insurance? Can I "choose" not to have to cover you and your bills? Can I tell my insurance company that I "choose" not to pay my now higher premiums because they need to cover your costs which you now can't pay? Can I tell the doctor or emergency room that I "choose" not to pay the higher price for the treatment that I need as a paying customer because I don't want them to pass your uncovered costs onto me?
To think you don't/won't need it is naive.Mar 5, 2014 at 8:30 am #2079646
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My argument? The claim was made that ACA is just like auto insurance, I pointed out how it is not, and posed the question as to what made them alike. Calling me naive doesn't answer the question.
And you're not the paying customer, the person without insurance would be. You'd be an insurance benefactor.Mar 5, 2014 at 8:36 am #2079652
Sorry I meant no offense, I was making a general comment. I think we're actually making the same argument… that you can't just choose or make a conscious decision to use health insurance as you can with driving a motor vehicle. Life is just not that predictable.
Hence, the need for penalties up front for not enrolling since at some point you'll likely need it and if you don't have it others (responsible, paying customers) will be stuck holding your bill.Mar 5, 2014 at 11:11 am #2079722
I'm definitely with Glen on this. The individual mandate is just one more example of the feds taking individual liberty from us bit by bit. Is this really what the founders had in mind? Do you enjoy the government telling you what to do?
The penalties people pay for not being insured will not go to offset actual medical costs. Those penalties are nothing more than a tax increase on the middle (non-government class). Cost shifting occured before Obamacare because we paid for services inccurred by others who didn't pay. Now, we will still have that cost shift AND higher insurance rates to subsidize others. If you buy an individual policy, or buy for a group you see more. If your employer covers most of your insurance, or are on Medicare, you are largely sheltered from the bulk of the ACA, at least so far.
Does anyone really believe the ACA is going to make things better for more than it makes things worse for? Adding a layer of BS and the government is never going to be cheaper.
My personal views on med insurance aside; pre-ACA was loaded with issues, post-ACA is even worse. Just because the feds made it different does not mean they made it better.Mar 5, 2014 at 11:22 am #2079730
Ken MillerMember
@powderpiggyLocale: Colorado
Thanks for the link.
The individual mandate is only one of many ideas expressed in the Heritage report. You might consider reading it to understand the principles of free markets on consumer behaviors.
You might also consider:
1)The Heritage recommendation referenced in the Forbes article was published in 1989, hum might need a little update.
2)The ACA was never discussed in committee in the House of Representatives. Pelosi and a handful of her cronies wrote the bill in secret.
3)The House version of the ACA has no republican nor conservative amendments, Pelosi would not allow any input
4)The Senate version was discussed in committee, but a 200 + page amendment was done by Reid and his cronies in secret that radically altered the bill on the floor.
5) The Senate and the House version never went to a bi-partisan committee, as per standard practice.
6) After Scott Brown won Kennedy's seat, Reid no long had the ability to prevent amendments nor prevent a filibuster of a House/Senate reconciled bill.
7) Pelosi "deemed" the Senate version to have passed the House preventing an actual vote on an increasingly unpopular piece of legislation.
8) The Senator version was never "cleaned up" and is what it is….crap
9) "We must pass it to know what's in it" is the democrat's version of "mission accomplished" or how bout "if you like your plan, you can keep it, period"
Go back to the Organizing for Action web site and get some more talking points. My Kleenex box remains un-opened
BTW if anyone thinks Kaiser has a monopoly on insurance, illegal by the way, wait till the federal government runs it.Mar 5, 2014 at 12:41 pm #2079779
Unfortunately the facts belie your belief in the relationship between money which doesn't directly go to offset healthcare costs vs. just added revenues/taxes to the government.Mar 5, 2014 at 1:13 pm #2079799
It seems to me that the gov says they are going to do a lot of different things. Often, this is not what happens. If your comfortable believing what the gov tells you that is all very nice. I do not take any of them at their word. Didn't they also tell us "if you like your plan you can keep it" and " this will save the average family $2500 per year".
You will certainly be more pleased about the ACA if you ignore reality.Mar 5, 2014 at 1:20 pm #2079802
Yes… I will choose "the Government." Especially the one agency within it who's only purpose for waking up each day and going to work is to independently and objectively analyze the economic and budgetary impact of every government spending decision made in a vacuum from all of the talking heads and noise from both left and right. Those are the people who present the facts upon which I rely… not a party sponsored TV channel, newspaper or blog.
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Danville Council Candidate Renee Morgan falsely calls herself an architectural designer on the ballot
Original post made by Truthful Ballots for Danville, Danville, on Oct 18, 2012
"The Danville town council race has gotten red hot, with opponents of candidate Renee Morgan writing letters, filing online comments and complaining that she misrepresented herself to voters on the ballot.
The ballot describes her job as "Businesswoman/Architectural Designer." Her opponents point out that she is not a licensed architect, and that it is a misdemeanor to describe oneself as an architect or an architectural designer without a license.
Morgan says it is a distraction by her opponents from the real issues.
"This is merely an attempt to create controversy in an election that should stick to the issues," Morgan said. "It is a job description, clearly described by my degree. I never intended to convey that I was an architect nor render services for which that license is required."
Morgan received an "architectural design drafter" diploma from the former Silicon Valley College -- a private career college in Walnut Creek that has had two name changes since Morgan attended in 1999.
Councilman Mike Doyle, who is seeking re-election, said he is concentrating on his own campaign and had no comment on Morgan. but said "I've been in a lot of elections nationally and locally, and this is one of the nastiest I've been involved in."
Maryann Cella, a steering committee member for Save Open Space-Danville, which has been spreading the word that Morgan is not a licensed architect, said Morgan's ballot designation
is "misleading, if not outright defrauding the public."
Save Open Space is a grassroots organization of about 700 people that has thrown its support behind candidates Bob Nealis and Jim Jelincic,
"It's a violation of Business and Professions Code Section 5536 (a) for unlicensed people to call themselves an architect or any derivative of that word," said Hattie Johnson, an enforcement officer for the state Board of Architects.
She said Morgan's diploma doesn't allow her to represent herself as an architectural designer.
According to the Business and Professions Code, unlicensed people who represent themselves as architectural designers can be fined up to $5,000, and/or be sent to county jail. However, Johnson said when her organization receives such a complaint, the violator is asked to stop using the word architect in any job description, and that usually does the trick.
Johnson wouldn't say if complaints have been filed against Morgan.
Morgan has been a town planning commissioner for the past eight years and has been endorsed by incumbent candidates Mayor Newell Arnerich and Doyle in the seven-person race for three seats on the town council in the November election.
Morgan, Arnerich and Doyle have taken similar positions on the SummerHill project, which has become the main issue of the campaign. Project opponents want the people to vote on it under provisions of Measure S -- an open space protection measure passed by Danville voters in 2000.
However, Morgan, Arnerich and Doyle have said that if the developer does not request amendments to the general plan, Measure S is not triggered and no vote of the people is required. Currently, no decision has been made on the project while an environmental impact report is being prepared.
Meanwhile, Morgan's opponents are hammering on the ballot issue.
"It is imperative that ballot designations are true, accurate and not misleading. It's the first line for a fair election." Jelincic said.
"Clearly, (Morgan is) trying to perpetuate a deceit on the voters of Danville, said Nealis. "You can't tell me it's an oversight or an error to call yourself an architectural designer when in fact you're not."
Nealis also took issue with Arnerich's endorsement of Morgan. Arnerich is a licensed architect. "It's particularly ironic that he's endorsing someone who is claiming to be a licensed professional in a field that he's in."
"What I see is she put down a job description," Arnerich said. "If they didn't think that Renee didn't have a chance of winning, they wouldn't be doing this."
The two other candidates in the race, Lori Hock and Deanna Sullivan, did not return phone calls on the matter."
Contact Jason Sweeney at 925-847-2123. Follow him at Twitter.com/Jason_Sweeney.
Copyright 2012 Contra Costa Times. All rights reserved.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 18, 2012 at 11:44 am
A drafter is not an architect, Renee. Own up to your dishonesty. You left off the word "drafter" from the ballot because you wanted to impress the voters with false claims.
Moreover, you are still misleading! You don't even mention being a drafter on your own campaign website. Your recent (August) LinkIn account said you were a realtor at Keller-Williams realty in Danville, and a former developer employee. Now you have deleted that account. Why are you continuing to try to mislead the public? Say who you are!
a resident of Danville
on Oct 18, 2012 at 1:46 pm
She needs to immediately announce she is dropping out of this election. This is Danville, where the voters are college educated(real colleges, not the alleged college she attended that has already changed names twice since she attended) and intelligent enough not to be fooled by her misrepresentations, and her blatant attempt to lie about her license reflects badly on our community, and reflects badly on the incumbents who endorsed her. If she actually has integrity, as she claims in all those tacky signs she has put up all over town, she needs to do the right thing and drop out of the race now.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 18, 2012 at 2:57 pm
[Portion removed due to repetitive post by same poster]
Voters, please save us from the likes of Renee Morgan---if she is dishonest now, imagine what she will be like when she gets the reins of power...
a resident of Danville
on Oct 19, 2012 at 10:15 pm
I regret signing the petition. The focus of save the frogs became more about a personal agenda for a few at the top that use the misguided petition to show power. I know these people from the schools we attend. They have changed so much. They are now very aggressive representing Summerhill. I wish it was driven by passion. This entire election game of calling the papers to get a rise is so obvious. I guess my commenting buys into the game.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 20, 2012 at 9:47 am
I do not know Ms Morgan but what she did IS a big deal. We all take great care in preparing our resumes and passing this off as a job description is insulting, and fodder for her tree hugging detractors.
This is how Joe Biden started his political career.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 20, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Keep in mind that Renee has "fellow travelers" and they should be booted from office too.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Contra Costa Times today endorsed Bob Nealis, not the fake architect Rene Morgan.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 22, 2012 at 7:57 am
I just don't understand in this day and age how someone could not properly vet their own campaign ads. In this day and age with access to the internet there will always be someone smart enough to actually look something up and check it out. If you are not 100% honest and accurate you will be exposed. To do what she did shows character flaw and playing recklessly with the truth. I for one don't want this type of my Town Council.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 22, 2012 at 9:05 am
It is a shame how faceless people post comments.I,for one,did not want to comment on this article but felt compelled to after reading the 'obvious' comments from candidates that USED the media to get such junk published!
These people are trying to take credibility away from the real candidates who made this Town what it is today!
And Who is this Cella Person?Save our Creeks or Save our Creeps?
A Political Organization endorsing Nealis and Jelencic?
Wake up Danville!!
I would NEVER Vote for NEALIS or JELENCIC!They are the nameless,faceless who have done NOTHING for Danville but create Trouble!
a resident of Danville
on Oct 22, 2012 at 9:36 am
To "Wake up Danville", by "creating trouble", you mean "trouble" for the incumbents who took political donations from developers and refuse to follow the law that requires us residents to vote on this development, and "trouble" for Ms. Morgan by falsely claiming a title she does not have? "The trouble" Mr. Nealis has created is demanding that the law be followed and that us residents vote on this huge development that is next to several schools, a fire department, and two senior citizen retirement homes. Yes, following the law and having us residents vote is the exact "type of trouble" we need!
a resident of Danville
on Oct 22, 2012 at 9:37 am
The comments I'm reading all seem to be coming from people passionate about ruining people instead of focussing on real issues and differences between candidates that will affect the quality of our town. Miss Morgan may, or may not have intentionally misrepresented herself...and the comment above about getting a degree from a "real" college is demeaning and plain mean. I dislike being from a town that appears to outsiders and insiders as pompous, righteous, and snobbish. Most of the comments above are perpetuating that ugly persona. To say that Miss Morgan's signs are "tacky" is tacky in itself. I personally like her signs and all of the other candidates for that matter. I also know that one candidate (or their representative) illegally put their sign up on my lawn, and another (possibly that same candidate) removed the sign of the person I am supporting. It's just becoming a plain ugly town full of people that are good at hurting others for their own gain.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 22, 2012 at 9:49 am
I have lived in Danville for 33 years and I feel very fortunate to have hard working and knowledgeable people representing our community. This election is about the issues, and not about the mud slinging that is coming out of supporters of certain candidates. Renee Morgan is a very intelligent and devoted public servant, her time on the Planning Commission shows her commitment to our community. I support Renee Morgan for Council.
a resident of Alamo
on Oct 22, 2012 at 10:31 am
I love it...
That's why we are NOT a City...The folks in beautiful Alamo can the writing on the wall.
Keep all those ego's in Danville...
Thanks for listening, Julia Pardini from beautiful Alamo.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 22, 2012 at 10:47 am
Just what we need, the bitter divisive national politics coming to our hometown election. Neallis, Jelencic and Morgan have all lost my votes. They only have themselves to blame
a resident of Vista Grande Elementary School
on Oct 22, 2012 at 11:31 am
Can someone educate me as to the Planning Comission's role in approving the "improvement" of the Northeast corner of Railroad and Linda Mesa? Wow, that new modern 2 story structure tucked in behind the historic renovated home is simply awful. Is this type of development the sort that we have to look forward to in the future?
a resident of Danville
on Oct 22, 2012 at 11:48 am
The first thing I noticed about this "story" was the headline. I immediately realized that it was posted not by an authentic news source but by another candidate, i.e. an opponent of Ms. Morgan's. So immediately its credibility should be questioned.
To me, this smacks of what's wrong with American politics today: the tendency to focus on "gotcha" themes instead of genuine issues. If you want to debate Ms. Morgan's positions on the issues important to Danville residents, or if you want to discuss her approach to problem-solving, then I'm all for it. But please, fellow Danville residents, do not allow yourselves to be dragged into pettiness.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 22, 2012 at 1:01 pm
What the article fails to point out is that it is only a misdemeanor if you use the title to directly obtain work in that field.
The ballot questionaire did not ask for her job title - it asked for her job description, which she accurately provided. "Draftsmen" is not a term generally used anymore, and that would not fit her job description anyways, as she is probably someone who legally does smaller jobs or works for licensed architects.
I don't know Renee Morgan at all, but I do know the stupid Save our Creeks people should be ashamed. Stop trying to force your agenda on the rest of us. There are other issues important to the town that your candidates are not prepared for.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 22, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Yeah Julia, you just stay where you are in Alamo. Maybe one of your neighbors in your "beautiful" Alamo will murder you too in your driveway! Or, if it doesn't go that far, they'll just tell everyone what an awful person you were after you died and how you deserved it.
And by the way, we're a town, not a city. And what does that have to with anything? At least we control our own destiny. You have to rely on Martinez - ha, ha. And what is that sorry excuse you have for a downtown? Please do not come to our 4th of July Parade, use our town activities, our library, or our parks. Just stay on your side of Stone Valley, and we'll just cross Alamo while happily driving by at 70 on 680.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 22, 2012 at 3:09 pm
To Dan R-
Please get the facts straight. I have two items for you to consider.
First, the ballot designation form that each candidate must complete says "To the best of my knowledge and belief, the above-requested ballot designation(s) represent my true principal profession(s), vocation(s), and/or occupation(s) and that I am entitled to use as my ballot designations pursuant to (SEC)13107 of the California Elections Code." That doesn't sound like it is asking for a job description as you claim.
Second, the California Practice Act (under the Business and Professions Code) states it is a misdemeanor "...to advertise or put our any sign, card or other device that might indicate to the public that he or she is an architect, that he or she is qualified to engage in the proctice of architecture, or that he or she is an architectural designer."
Do you still claim she is not being honest according to those standards? If so, tell me where I am wrong.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 22, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Betsy K, you are the type of person that "Embarrassed" is talking about. Please leave your negativity out of a public forum. It is not the type of response I want any prospective buyers, our children, or any other person to associate me with. Since you live in my town, I'm associated with you and your opinion. Please, anyone interested in showing juvenile tendencies by mudslinging, verbally attacking, or being demeaning... keep your opinions to yourself. If we want Danville to be all it can be, we should be uplifting and come together as a community. Tearing each other apart tears us all apart.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 22, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Ever wonder why "good" people don't run for office? Just read the earlier comments. I'm tired of the local hidden agendas, personal attacks, etc., for those who DO toss their hat in the ring. If you critics are all so perfect, why aren't your names on the ballot? What have you done to further the advancement of Danville? Did you attend the Chamber lunch to listen to all of the candidates? If you did, you'll probably be able to make an informed decision, based on a candidate's competence & skill set (or not), vs. tearing down a candidate to further your own agenda. Sorry to burst your bubble, but your focus is not the same as that of the majority of the voting Danville public - who could care less about Magee Ranch, the creek, etc. I don't know Renee Morgan, but she has spent 8 years (that's EIGHT) on the Danville planning commission, which gives her more insight into the workings of the town than the other "newbies." Dedicating that amount of time to the town - for what gain? - is worth something (unless, of course, she has voted against your agenda). Stop complaining & make a positive contribution.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 22, 2012 at 6:02 pm
CM, you're an idiot. I thought Betsy was funny, and she sure didnt' start the negativity. That would be Julia. And what is this "come together and be uplifting" crap. Are you for real? Do you know the whole reason for this thread is for a bunch of yahoos from save our creek to tear down a qualified candidate for no valid reason. She should withdraw because they THINK she overstated her career (which she didn't). And you can all say there is a valid reason, but there isn't. So don't bother.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 22, 2012 at 6:46 pm
"concerned voter" (or save our creek spokesman, whoever you are) -
Dan R's facts are straight. It is you who is trying to make an issue out of nothing. She's not advertising. It's her accurate job description.
If you're so sure of her guilt, then complain to the board and let them decide. But you won't because you'll just take the easy way out by anonymously trying to take her down. Pathetic.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 22, 2012 at 6:57 pm
How many pseudo names does Maryann Cella have on this thread. She doesn't even live in Danville. Stop telling us what to do. There are more important issues.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 22, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Dear Danvillerules,
I am for real. And Julia and Betsy aren't funny. And I investigated Renee Morgan's credentials and I think she's great... and I'M voting for her! I think you misread or misunderstood my intention. It's ugly to see all of this political mudslinging and I don't like to be associated with people who participate, but since I live in Danville, I don't have a choice. I'm just trying to persuade people to increase our town's reputation by using intelligent means of enlightening the public. So for anyone not sure of who Renee Morgan is or what she claims, please read all of her campaign material. She doesn't claim that she's a Design Architect in any of her previous public statements. She's forthright and operating above the rest.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 23, 2012 at 7:47 am
To CM,
You will not find her claiming to be an "architectural designer" on any of her campaign material because she realized her false claim was being uncovered. However, chaeck out the ballot when you recevie one. That is where she claerly says she is one and that is the deception. Apparently there are many people on this site who will chose to ignore that her blatant attempt to mislead voters. So much for her integrity and your willingness to support someone who will do whatever it takes to get the vote. Certainly you must question her character and what this type of person might do once in office.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 23, 2012 at 7:51 am
I don't know what language you are using, but a "profession, vocation and/or occupation" is not a job description. Any one of those three is a statement of what your job is and a job description lays out what you specifically do in the job.


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