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Let's Break It Down: Building a Better Uncharted - Part 1
Not even going to waste time talking about current weapons and how they should be changed. We don't even know what the model is, so start from scratch. How do you improve the current gun mechanics? Define the types. There wasn't enough "diversity" in HOW the weapons played out per the user. Let's take the SMG model. It was complete trash in UC3 because the KAL7 (AK 74) played like a wild fire hose. The point of that weapon type should be mobility and close range accuracy. However, does that fit into the Uncharted model? Not with the "current" mindset, no, but if you made it to were player types or even booster types changed the way the character moved beyond strafing and climbing, it could incorporate a much more proper representation of how close quarters action could and should work. I don't want to go into booster types and ideas now but think of it this way. If you had fleet foot and monkey man have stipulations that those two boosters would work best with a SMG/CQC type play style, then it would create a "class" in some regards but still allow the player to choose whatever they wished. It's not to say that the FF and Monkey Man wouldn't work for a range/support/sniper play type, you just wouldn't get the full benefit from it. Changing the booster concept or even adding an actual risk/reward format to gunplay would not go as far as eliminating the blind firing because that's a design issue with Naughty Dog first and foremost. What it would allow is a specific play type to exist. Not just holding R1 and running in circles. It's hard to say that blindfiring should be a "last ditch" scenario because you are limited to what you can do with your hands and a 3D image. So while we all dislike the idea of it, it does have a purpose in gameplay…when effectively used/balanced of course. Changing the entire mechanics comes from actual character models being altered but if you properly designed the gunplay, it would create a basis for them to work with.
SMG/Shotgun classes would best fit a set of boosters that capitalize on the facet of being "in your face". Obviously, this play type is hyper-risky and that's the pay-off you get from it. Currently there is no risk for playing CQC in UC3, only reward. Sure you could get two-pieced (punch,shot) or dumpnaded but it's not as likely as "spraynpray". If a player wants to be in the action at all costs, then the sacrifice is becoming the most valid target at every turn and the heightened possibility they'll be the first to go down. It's like playing as a Vanguard in Mass Effect. You're not a tank but your mobility is your key. Smart players will capitalize on the ability to move quickly and out "juke" the opponent. Of course it creates a more "nooby" tactic for the inexperienced player who just spams the attacks but to reach the full potential of a "class", you have to be an intelligent player. The uneducated player will eventually hit a plateau, while the rest of the players will advance past them because they know their limits and play to the strengths of the style. There would be a large gap between the average player who uses a CQC class and a top tier player. Nothing wrong with that, honestly it's how it should be. Based on the skill of the individual. There needs to be an end to "making everyone the same" because you're not doing that by accommodating to "poor play". Making everyone the same is impossible because they don't have the natural skill and you can't blame anyone for that. Maybe your parents for lesser genetics…I dunno. Thing is, the basis should be around simple styles, with dynamic attributes to each. Counter balance for each one and you're solid. Can't play as a CQC player? Then play with a mid-ranged setup and work off the aggressive players on your team. It's not hard, we were just strangled by the poor design aspects of UC3.
To really break it down, only allow a few starting weapons. There is no need for major diversity in the weaponry when the focus is on "platforming" in a game like Uncharted. Especially when the differences are mostly cosmetic outside of rate of fire.
The same thing applies to the G-Mal. If you want this game to be close quarters, then the weapon should fit into that mold. The problem with Uncharted 3 is that the maps are unorganized or un-even, that there are TOO many playing styles to work with. It doesn't create a balance, reason why ND had to patch, buff, nerf, etc so much in this game. So lets say the G-Mal was still a burst-fire firearm and had an effective range of 40-100 meters. Under that 40 meter range the accuracy drops as it requires more stability to handle the rifle. Yes, it's much more "realistic" but it also acts as a balancing act between the two types. Why try to increase the blindfire on a weapon that is used for range? That's like trying to add a scope to a sawed-off. I suppose you need to examine the fibers of the opponents clothing prior to pulling the trigger. A CQC player will be mauled before he can reach the G-Mal player if the G-Mal player has all effective ranges and can move at the same speed as the CQC player. There wouldn't be a counter to that. I'm trying to stay away from the class idea but when you think about it, you can't make them both the same and expect players to choose different play styles. Their two play types differ from one another and create a middle ground. Use your movement to your advantage, and you'll be a good CQC player but you're still within a limit of what is capable. Same with the G-Mal player, range is the key but if your placement and awareness is poor, that CQC player will out flank you and end your streak. You're also creating "teamwork" without actually making players communicate with one another. A team full of re-worked KAL7s couldn't handle a balanced team of M9's, G-Mal's and Shotguns. Sure they may gang up on one player type but multiple range players would pick them apart. Maybe that's far too archaic for this generation but that just harkens back to old player types. That way you don't FORCE players to play that way but if you want to work as a semi-team and at least win more than you lose, it's smart to have that kind of balance in "class/weapon types".
There needs to be a "Pokemon" balance. One thing has to cancel out the other but work best against a certain type. Then you'll see diversity in play styles. Aggressive players will vote for CQC or the middle ground, while support and slower-speed players will opt for the range route, giving them time to calculate a defense or plan their attack out accordingly. Many of you should understand this, I feel like I'm beating a dead horse but when Naughty Dog doesn't seem to be aware of that, sometimes "persistence" is what you need. Of course….for all of this to work, the maps and player movement has to be effective, otherwise you'll just create a new problem to replace the old.
Ok, so what's my point? My point is this, strictly speaking of the weapons in the next Uncharted game, there needs to be a give and take on all types. You give up this, to have that. If Naughty Dog spent more time on asking "how do you play" than "how can I make this easier for you", then you'll create a balance. It's not always going to be 50/50 but personalities/attitudes of the player should be taken into consideration. No, you can't gauge every player but you can gauge groups of them. A lot of us that play back and there are those of us who play aggressive. There are those in-between who can do both decently, so that will be the most important area to balance out. Your best option is to make it slightly generic, so that it accommodates to the "switch hitter" concept.
I'm going to stop there because it's important to have discussion. I could write another 15 pages on this with no problem but there are some topics that work best when others bring them up first. So discuss. Let's lay this out. Realize you responses might not even affect the next Uncharted game, instead any game Naughty Dog wishes to do on a player vs player multiplayer type. This is just the first part of many things to come like this. I plan to break down every portion of the game, from maps to equipment used in the game. On top of all of this, tripleWRECK and I will be starting a State of Uncharted series, going even further into these topics to get y'all discussing and to get Naughty Dog on the right page.
Lastly, we are not the end-all-be-all. Many of you have some awesome ideas but the process is to help you find the right words. Don't agree with me because it's cool, agree with me because you believe in it. If you don't, give me a civil reason why not and lets discuss. The idea is to not let the franchise die, until ND kills it. Thanks guys.
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The key is that there has to be equal trade offs. It would be kinda like a mix between TFC and CS. TFC was great but was unbalanced and lacked skill in many situations. CS was great but very slow paced and campy.
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Good post squid, in uncharted 3 the maps have had quite a huge influence on the gameplay, theres a huge difference playing on a map like plaza and then on chateua, most of uc3 maps are all close quarters which is one of the biggest gameplay differences uc3 has to uc2, I personally dont like having a wide range of weapons either like one weapon for longe range, mid range etc, the maps simply cannot cater for this, as you said uc3 is predominetly a CQC game so generally speaking the guns ideal for this game would only be mid-short (it is a lot easier playing with an m9 as oppose to the g-mal).
I'd like the next uncharted to go back to the that more "adventurer" feel and more to the roots of the game, this game isnt a military shooter where you have a range of weapons to your arsenal, this game should have more of a scavenger feel (just pick up what you find and use what you got). Its simple and its more suited to this games genre. I could expand on this but this'll do for now
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There needs to be heavy changes to the aiming mechanics...
Honestly I don't like loadouts, The whole trade off for having something and lacking in another area isn't something I'm happy with.
I love simplicity where it comes down to just you and your weapon, like Uncharted 2 was. We had pickups too which were fine.
Anyway back to the aiming mechanics. That recoil needs serious changing to promote aiming. The issue is that being someone who does aim. I can understand why people wont bother, the recoil in everything except the M9 actually hurts my head and makes me feel really icky just tracking it with my eyes, It's way too violent the way it dances around the screen.
Plus we could give this game class loadouts, with different balancing for each one, but ND can't even get the basics right with weapons with their current game, do we want to move forward when they really need to go backwards?
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I am typing this from 35,862 feet above the state of Kansas while traveling 518 miles per hour. You might ask, "Mike, how do you know you are above Kansas? For that matter, how do you know your air speed and altitude?" Let me answer these burning questions for you. Jet Blue has Direct TV built into the back of every seat. One of the channels provides you with a Google Map showing your exact location, air speed, and altitude. Modern technology is quite amazing.
Jet Blue Plane on the ground in Long Beach, Ca.
Now let me take you back to 4:45am when the trip officially started. We were all up and out of the house by 5:30am. Of course there was a minor crisis, because what would a vacation be without one. Last night the little fish tank filter quit working. Nothing you can do about that at 11pm. At 5:15 am Sarah and I packed her Guppies up to go to the Police Station where they will spend the next couple weeks in the fish tank Dexter has there. Sarah decided they were going to learn to be police fish. She said some were going to be detectives while others were going to regular patrol fish. Minor crisis averted. Life is good.
We were at the airport by a little after 6am for a 7:45 flight. We cleared security and were at our gate by 6:45am. All in all I am not sure it could have gone much smoother. We had a quick breakfast, and then it was time to board. The highlight of this part of the trip was the look on Sarah's face. You could tell she was so excited. She had that look of amazement that only a 12 year old can get when they are experiencing something like this for the for the first time. She had that beautiful devilish grin as we walked through the terminal. Her head was on a swivel trying to take in all of the sights and sounds at the same time.
As I type this Sarah is watching the cartoon channel and coloring. Let me digress here for just a second and throw out some major props to Peg. It struck me as I am typing this you crossed the pond more than once with two girls much younger than Sarah on a MAC flight some twenty plus years ago. No DVD players, I-Pods, Direct-TV, and what is more it was a MAC flight. So major kudos to you and Wayne. I truly don't know how you did it. God Bless You!
Pat is working on one of those 5 Samurai Sudoku. I don't know how she does those things. They confuse me to no end. But then I am a man, I don't read directions because they confuse me. She has the patience of a saint doing those things. From the looks of it she is about done. Oh yeah besides Direct TV, Jet Blue provides you with XM Radio which Pat is enjoying. Seems they are in the mood to play the Beatles this morning which she is enjoying more. I have looked over at her screen 3 times and seen Beatles songs, Taxman , Strawberry Fields, and some other one I forgot.
Location update: Kansas/Oklahoma border, altitude 35960, speed 513mph. It amazes me that I can know that instantly. As some of you may be aware I am a bit of a control freak. Having this information makes me feel more in control for some reason. I have no idea why, and it makes no rational sense, but it does. If I ever start making sense with stuff like this then I may scare myself.
We are now are in the pan handle of Oklahoma heading due west to New Mexico, so I will sign off for now.
Type to you soon,
Mike, Pat, and Sarah.
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Soil the linen on Fan Appreciation Night, as your Montreal Canadiens did, losing 5-1 to Washington at the Bell Centre Saturday, and you face the coach's excoriation morning.
Michel Therrien has called an 11 a.m. Sunday practice at the Canadiens' training facility in Brossard.
This may seem excessively punitive.
The Canadiens have played five games in eight nights.
They face a three-game road trip to wrap up the regular season.
But Therrien, who is no longer worrying about what suit he'll wear to accept the Jack Adams Trophy, is running out of coaching strategies.
Therrien has shuffled his lines and his defence pairings.
He's pulled his starting goaltender in successive games – the first time that happened in Carey Price's career.
Nothing seems to help.
And if the Tampa Bay Lightning hadn't hit two goalposts and a crossbar Thursday night, the Canadiens would be death-spiralling through a five-game losing streak.
What are they going to practice on Sunday?
The power play?
Most definitely. After scoring once with six man advantages against the woeful Lightning, the Canadiens were 0-for-5 against Washington … which came into the game with the NHL's 28th-ranked penalty kill.
The Caps' PP is a different story. It's first in the NHL, and the Caps scored twice in three opportunities against the Canadiens.
So yes, the lads will be working on the PP – and probably the PK – on Sunday.
And over in a corner of the practice rink, goaltending coach Pierre Groulx will be trying to restore the bruised and battered confidence of his star pupil.
Fans who read Hockey Inside-Out regularly know I'm a big Carey Price fan. But there's no sugarcoating what we've seen for the last two weeks. The numbers don't lie: Price is 1-5 with a GAA of 4.91 and a save percentage of .868.
With the exception of a 32-save, goalpost-aided effort against the Lightning, Price has been awful. And what's made it worse is he's been awful early, setting a morbid tone for sad evenings.
Last Saturday in Toronto, Tyler Bozak scored two minutes into the game and Leo Komarov made it 2-0 six minutes later en route to a 5-1 Leafs romp.
Against Philadelphia on Monday, Wayne Simmonds and Erik Gustaffson had the Flyers ahead within six minutes.
The Canadiens were riding a 5-0 shot advantage against the Caps when Alex Ovechkin seized on a P.K. Subban wrister to snap one through Price's pads. A few ticks over a minute later, Troy Brouwer made it 2-0.
OK, Price wasn't beaten by a couple of pluggers like Travis Moen and Colby Armstrong. Ovechkin leads the Maurice Richard Trophy race with 30 goals and Brouwer has 20.
But a successful team needs big stops, especially at the stage when the tone of the game is being set.
Against the Senators Saturday night, James Reimer made 49 saves in the 4-1 that clinched a playoff appearance for the Leafs. Reimer made 18 saves in the first period while his teammates were directing five shots at Craig Anderson. Shots were 17-9 Ottawa in the second period, 15-8 in the third.
That's clutch goaltending … and we're not seeing it in Montreal.
The 2-0 deficits that are becoming customary – Peter Budaj was beaten early in Pittsburgh – have a deflationary impact on the Canadiens … the more so because they're not used to it. Through their first 40 games, the Canadiens opened the scoring 28 times.
Ah, but that was then. And if what's happening now is an indicator of what we can expect in the merry month of May …
What's happened to the Canadiens?
As much as you'd like to see him stand on his head and singlehandedly drag the Canadiens out of the doldrums, you can't hang the slump totally on Price.
The defence is a shambles. Andrei Markov is a liability at even strength, and Josh Gorges is is losing puck battles and making poor decisions.
The forwards aren't helping their beleaguered D. We aren't seeing the five-man backchecking swarms and the crisp, efficient zone clearances that carried the team to their dizzying heights of the Eastern Conference standings.
The Canadiens' difficulties on the back end have sabotaged the speedy transition game that Steve Ott praised when the Canadiens beat the Sabres 5-1. The Canadiens rarely generate any speed through the neutral zone, and they've become an ineffectual perimeter team in the attacking zone.
The stat sheet says Braden Holtby faced 36 shots, as every skater except Rene Bourque had at least one SoG. But the Washington goaltender had an easy night. His teammates blocked 22 shots, and Holtby rarely had to handle the deep-slot, wide-open looks that Price and Budaj seem to confront in every game lately.
Every team goes through adversity, and the Canadiens have a week to get their poop in a group and build up some momentum heading into the postseason.
Imagine if playoff seeding comes down to next Saturday's game at the Air Canada Centre. Price vs. Reimer, and the winner opens the playoff series at home.
Will the loser hold a Sunday practice?
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I can see it now. Game 16 a home game. Never have to leave Jersey after game 15 when we beat Washington away to lock it up. Defend the home for the rest of the way, including the SB of course.
A nice nor'easter SB sunday. Corporate seats empty..us Giant fans lucky enough to get seats by lottery hunkered down together in snow that miraculously turns a shade of blue as it pelts the Lombardi trophy while Eli hoists it up high into the 50 mile an hour winds.
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Family of 5-year-old homicide victims says police, legal system failed him
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. - The family members of a boy allegedly murdered by his mother says they are angry that police and the legal system didn't do more to protect him.
Jude Murray-Gomez, 5, was found dead after a small fire at the Hill Park Apartments on Friday morning. An autopsy report showed that he had drowned and did not die in the fire. His mom, 42-year-old Shannon Dodson, faces a charge of first-degree murder in his death. When firefighters responded to the fire, they found Dodson wet and naked inside a closet. Jude was wrapped in a smoldering blanket between a bed and a wall. Dodson's arrest affidavit details how detectives asked her if she knew why they wanted to speak with her and she said, "because I killed my son."
The affidavit said she started to cry and said she shouldn't have done it, she didn't know why she did it, she thought they would go together and she couldn't believe she did it. A background check shows no prior criminal convictions for Dodson.
Jude's father's family told KRDO NewsChannel 13 that Dodson had problems with mental health and drug abuse, but they never expected her to kill her son. Jude's aunt said the family was disappointed that Dodson was granted unsupervised weekend visits with Jude but that they accepted it because they thought it was best for Jude to spend time with both his mother and father.
On Friday, Nov. 1, Jude went to spend the weekend with Dodson. He was supposed to return to his grandmother, Jillian Gomez, on Sunday afternoon. However, when Gomez went to pick Jude up from her apartment, the two were nowhere to be found. The family says they called police, who told them it was a civil matter and they would have to take it to court. The family says they went to the courthouse, filed a contempt of court, and checked back every day asking for something to be done. An active search was never issued, according to the family. Jude missed school at Widefield Elementary for the entire week before he was found dead Friday.
KRDO NewsChannel 13 asked the Colorado Springs Police Department on its protocol for issuing a missing child report.
The following is a written response from CSPD:
"There is not a set time frame that a child becomes missing or endangered. When we receive information, the responding officers/supervisors considers the totality of the situation when considering the proper course of action. This may be anything from a runaway report taken to a full-blown response by the police department. It is very much a case-specific answer."
As for issuing Amber Alerts, the state of Colorado follows recommendations rather than rules.
The following is a summary of the Department of Justice's recommended criteria:
- There is reasonable belief by law enforcement that an abduction has occurred.
- The law enforcement agency believes that the child is in imminent danger of serious bodily injury or death.
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- The abduction is of a child aged 17 years or younger.
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Jude's family also wonders why Dodson's adult daughter, Casey Poe, did not report her mother's behavior to authorities.
Detectives spoke with Poe after the alleged murder. Dodson's arrest affidavit says that Poe told detectives that she had a conversation with her mom on Nov. 4, days before Jude died. According to Poe, her mother said she wanted to die and would kill Jude and herself. Poe said she talked with her mom about it and her mom agreed not to do it.
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when a girl curls her hair and makes it all bouncy and curly for a first date or when she's trying to impress a guy. it puts a spring in her step and makes her want to sing "dip-a-dee-doo-dah, dip-a-dee-ay my, oh my, what a wonderful day."
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Catherine Hamilton is a longtime birder. So the New York artist and former RISD teacher's sharply realistic pen drawing of a flapping owl is based on a bird-banding trip to a preserve in New Paltz, New York. Her soft impressionist watercolor paintings of a red-bellied woodpecker, a black-capped chickadee, and a Carolina wren come from watching the competition among birds for suet and seed at a suburban feeder.
"A bird feeder," Hamilton writes in her artist statement, "creates an intensified microcosm of the trials and hardships of avian existence. Far from an idyllic peaceable kingdom, the hierarchies and conflicts of a complex avian life are magnified much in the way of urban city living for people."
There's no doubting Hamilton's drawing chops, but there can be a rote bird-guide feeling to her images on view at Craftland Gallery (235 Westminster Street, Providence, through May 22). You don't feel the tension she speaks of in her statement. These feel more like nature studies, like practicing. What's missing is drama.
Attention to light and a soft focus lend more drama to her ink drawings of trees, meadows, and rivers illuminated by a mystical sun or moonlight glow.
But the best of Hamilton's drawings here is a close-up of the dark, staring eyes of a rabbit. Its long ears and roly-poly body fade out into the white of the paper. The ink drawing's power comes from keeping the focus restricted to the rabbit's eyes and forehead, plus Hamilton's delicate touch and extremely fine stippling — lots of tiny dots — so that the critter seems like an apparition on the paper. That selective focus — which adds mystery and drama — may be the key factor. Coming upon the drawn rabbit feels like an accidental close meeting in a fog. Or maybe just you're hyper-focused on those eyes, and the rest fades in attention, as you size up the scene. You and the rabbit freeze, waiting to see what happens next.
Providence artist Susan Hardy Twaddell's subject is also nature, but her "After Africa" drawings at Cade Tompkins Editions Projects (198 Hope Street, Providence, through May 29) depict landscapes abstracted into triangles and prickly palm shapes and rendered in woven lines of brown (synthetic walnut ink) and black (India ink).
Hook Cove simplifies a shore scene into a pale ochre oval for the water, a boomerang-shaped hook of brown for the shore, and a bunch of burnt sienna triangle trees or hills beyond. Autumn Primeval features a path curving up from the bottom center into a point. It is flanked by curious, simplified leaf or stone shapes. And in the sky floats a pair of lopsided clouds. The different shapes are distinguished by varying crisscross hatched lines in lighter or darker shades of tan, burnt sienna, dark umber, and gray. All the hatching can give the feeling that the scenes are built from lots of woven mats laid side by side.
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New on DVD: Dexter: The Fifth Season
Despite the guilt over his wife's death, Dexter returns for some serious bloodletting.
Creator: James Manos Jr. Rating: Not Rated Studio: Paramount
The fourth season of Showtime's Dexter ended with Dexter (Michael C. Hall) discovering his wife, Rita, murdered in her bathtub after he put her in danger by pursuing—and killing—the Trinity Killer (John Lithgow). The repercussions of this shocking finale resonate throughout Dexter: The Fifth Season as our favorite Miami bloodstain-pattern analyst/serial killer struggles with the guilt over Rita's death.
A wife, a new baby and two stepchildren really killed Dexter's killing time last season. But with Rita gone and her two kids from a previous relationship off with the grandparents, Dexter is able to get back to what he does best—singling out, hunting and offing morally bankrupt people. Sure, he still has his baby son, but with sister Debra (Jennifer Carpenter) and others around to babysit, solace comes with a sharp blade.
The surprising twist this season is Dexter's unexpected relationship with the mysterious Lumen (Julia Stiles), a survivor of a brutal rape squad that we find out is headed by a secretly sadistic motivational speaker, Jordan Chase (Johnny Lee Miller). After an uneasy feeling-each-other-out period, Lumen discovers what Dexter really is and tries to understand him, insisting that she come along with him as he slices his way through the rapists and gets retribution for her and, in a way, Rita.
Fans worried that a serial killer saddled down with a wife and kids in suburbia would neuter the series should rest easy now that Dexter is back to serious bloodletting in this season. The transformation of Stiles from brutalized victim to Dexter's revenge-hungry partner in crime is exciting to watch over the 12 episodes and the chemistry between the two generates heat, even if we know deep down that Dexter works best alone. Miller is also deliciously evil as a closet misogynist hiding behind a protective layer of fame and adoring fans. Although this season doesn't end with the kind of shocker we expect from the series and the writers have pulled the Dexter-is-about-to-get-caught-by-Deb card one too many times, Dexter remains one of the bloody best dramas on television and, now, on DVD and Blu-ray.
Best extras: The DVD includes episodes one and two of The Borgias and Episodes and access to two episodes of Californication and other cast interviews by using your PC's DVD drive to connect to a secure website. With your BD-Live capable Blu-ray player, you can access the same episodes and interviews in your living room via the Blu-ray version and bypass the trip to the computer. Both the DVD and Blu-ray also contain a coupon for $25 cash back when you order Showtime, on which the sixth season of Dexter premieres October 2.


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Up and up the bidding goes. Where it will stop, nobody knows. The bidding for Capt. Chesley "Sully" Sullenberger's pilot's hat on eBay to benefit two schools was up to $4151.01 at 4 p.m. Tuesday, after only one day on the market.
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A large window in the Galleria Suite looks out to a wild animal pond which attracts birds, rabbits, javelina, and bobcats. Last week our assistant innkeeper was servicing a room when a mother bobcat with her two young ones appeared at the pond for a drink. Her little ones are hiding behind her.
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LAKEPORT -- To an almost packed room, District 1, 4 and 5 supervisors Jim Comstock, Anthony Farrington and Rob Brown took the oath of office at the Lake County Courthouse Tuesday morning.
District 2 Supervisor Jeff Smith then became the new appointed chairman of the Lake County Board of Supervisors (BOS), a position previously held by Brown, during its first meeting of 2013, with District 3 Supervisor Denise Rushing appointed vice chair.
Several items on the agenda sparked debates between the supervisors, community members and other officials at the meeting.
One was the efficiency of patient transportation from one hospital to another.
Policy dictates county fire departments transport patients, but response can be slow because of a small number of available units, Lake County Public Health Director Dr. Karen Tait said.
"We are trying to get optimal patient care," she said.
One option was to bring in third-party companies, such as Verihealth, to help with transportation.
Several supervisors, however, voiced concern about bringing in private companies.
"Private enterprise can't always do what's best for the community," Brown said.
Rushing was also apprehensive with privatization, and Comstock said he wanted to see public services left to the public.
The BOS ultimately decided that a committee, which will include Brown, should look at the policy to see what changes can be made in general terms without a private company in mind.
The lease agreement between the county and Kelseyville Unified School District for the Gard Street school campus for use by the Child Support Services Department, while still in its early stages, was another hot topic.
The project would cost an estimated $400,000.
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Those opposed to the department moving from its current Lakeport office said the city would suffer from relocating roughly 30 jobs elsewhere. Various other county offices are also located in Lakeport, the county seat, and opponents said residents would have a harder time traveling longer distances to go from one office to the next.
Farrington suggested looking at other available options before settling on the Gard Street school campus and bring back findings to the BOS.
Although some concerns about the cost and accuracy of images from Blue Water Satellite were raised, the BOS approved the project that would take 24 satellite images around Clear Lake.
The proposed images, to be taken during a two-year period, would cost $43,200. The county will use them as documentation for nutrients, as well as check for compliance on reduction of nutrients and erosion.
"This is one of the best investments we can make," Rushing said.
The Lake County Land Trust, the Sierra Club several other entities approved the recommendation, Scott De Leon, director of the Department of Water Resources, said.
De Leon also said that data provided by the images would allow the county to receive more grants in the future.
A proposed agreement between the county and SCS Engineers for services at the Eastlake Landfill Gas Recovery System was also approved by the BOS.
Lake County public service director Caroline Chavez said the company would provide professional engineering, design and the contract would begin preparation for a construction bid on the site to extract natural gasses.
A consideration to appoint Supervisor Farrington as a BOS representative to the Marymount College Long Range Planning Advisory Committee was not approved because some members said it might cause a conflict of interest.
Rushing said the college could have sensitive documentation the committee might not want to release to the public. If a BOS representative is present, however, the document becomes public.
They said Farrington could go as a Lake County representative, but not as a BOS member.
There was also the matter of developing an automated phone system for Animal Care and Control.
Rushing and Comstock voiced immediate support.
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Located in quiet leafy street with off street parking. Peaceful escape from the city, but within 25 minutes metro ride into Central London. Excellent transport links, M25 within easy access. Close to Heathrow Airport and local bus routes.
Rayners Lane Tube station, which serves both Metropolitan and Piccadilly Lines, is 10 minutes walking distance. Conveniently located near Harrow Town Centre with cinema, shops and restaurants.
Brent is a suburb in North West London. There are several tube stations located in the district, many of them located on the Jubilee Line which will take you directly to Bond Street Station, which is right by Oxford Street. Oxford Street is the main shopping street in London with shops such as Selfridges and Debenhams. Most attractions of London are within easy reach, such as Piccadilly Circus, Madame Tussauds and Tower of London. Hyde Park is located west of Oxford Street where you will find Kensington Gardens. If you walk through the park you will reach Kensington where you can find the famous department store Harrod's and plenty of museums, for example Natural History museum and Science museum.
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We loved our time staying at Esther and Don's house. They were very welcoming and helpful. The flat was very clean and perfect for our needs. We were able to explore all the sights of London then come back to the flat to relax and prepare for the next day. Thank you Esther and Don.
This was the perfect place to visit London for a few days. The studio was comfortable and clean, had everything you needed and most of all it felt like having your own place in London. It was perfectly situated; close to the Underground, close to the local pub and close to a lot of little shops.
The owners Esther and Don were very nice and friendly and made us feel at home.
The flat is exactly as it´s described.
The most important thing for me was/ is that the flat was/is tidy.
I am normally used to tiny hotel rooms that are stinky and dirty and just...gross.
This flat doesnt smell bad, it´s very tidy and you have everything you need.
I have been there for 8 nights and it was perfect. Nothing I did miss.
You have a nice english, quiet big, bed a nice bathroom with a shower and towels and a hairdryer and a kitchen with everything you need to cook small meals or just heat something up.
The other important thing for me is that the area is safe and doesn´t look like a ghetto. And the area there is really nice with lots of nice houses, a small tesco and a small sainsburys and you just walk 5-10 minutes to the tube station.
The last important thing for me is that the flat owner are nice and you feel comfy living in their flat.
And that absoloutely happened. Esther and Don are really really nice and lovely people who want you to feel comfy and make sure you have everything you need.
I already said that I will def. come back here! :)
Very nice room with all the necessary necesseties. The hosts were most kind and helpful.
The studio flat is small but has everything you could desire for a stay in London and spotlessly clean. The neighbourhood is silent and well connected with the Piccadilly and Metropolitan lines at the tube station just a short walk away and there is an incredible assortment of ethnic shops and restaurants just round the corner.
Esther and Don are charming and willing to give useful advice and tips for a pleasant stay. Nothing is too much trouble. I'd book again with them any time!
10 Excellent
We have a wonderful weekend in London!
The apartment was really good!
Esther an Don was so kind and helpful to us.
When we go to London next time this will be the place to book again.
We were there from 03-08.02.2014. The "studio" is indeed very small, but functional. Besides 4flammigem gas cooker, fridge and washing machine, there is a microwave, toaster, cafetiere, hairdryer, iron and ironing board. The TV does not exist in German, but you get to the Internet. Walk to Undergrund station is only 10 minutes. Who would ever have to buy tickets to go to London stage 5-6. Travel time about 35 minutes to Baker Street (Madam Tussaud). We had at this time not only with the weather pitch, no, the Tube (subway) went on strike. The hosts Esther and Don were very courteous, thank you. The pub "The Village Inn" is located between home and metro station, is also recommended to eat.
Wir waren vom 03.-08.02.2014 dort. Das "Studio" ist zwar sehr klein, aber zweckmäßig eingerichtet. Neben 4flammigem Gasherd, Kühlschrank und Waschmaschine, gibt es noch Mikrowelle, Toaster, Cafetiere, Fön, Bügeleisen und Bügelbrett. Das TV gibt es nicht in deutsch, dafür kommt man ins Internet. Zu Fuß zur Undergrund Station sind es keine 10 Minuten. Wer ständig nach London fahren möchte muß Fahrscheine der Stufe 5-6 kaufen. Fahrzeit ca. 35 Minuten zur Bakerstreet (Madam Tussaud). Wir hatten in dieser Zeit nicht nur mit dem Wetter Pech, nein auch die Tube (Metro) wurde bestreikt. Die Gastgeber Esther und Don waren sehr zuvorkommend, danke. Der Pub "The Village Inn" liegt zwischen Wohnung und Metrostation, ist auch zum Essen zu empfehlen.
Excellent place to stay, just like in the pictures and in the description, Esther and Don were lovely hosts and very hard-working, helpful and welcoming. The neighborhood was spotlessly clean and comfortable, all in all, my best quarters I've ever had in London. Highly Recommended! And at this low price. Cheap transport links (2 subway lines), the area is safe, and although it is a residential area it has good infrastructure, small shops and good Indian restaurants are on the way to the apartment. Perfect.
Exzellente Unterkunft, genau wie auf den Fotos und in der Beschreibung, Esther und Don waren reizende Gastgeber und sehr bemüht, hilfreich und herzlich. Das Quartier war blitzsauber und gemütlich, alles in allem mein bestes Quartier , das ich jemals in London gehabt habe. Absolut empfehlenswert !! Und das zu diesem günstigen Preis. Günstige Verkehrsanbindung ( 2 U-Bahnlinien ) , die Gegend ist sicher , und obwohl es eine Wohngegend ist hat sie gute Infrastruktur,kleine Geschäfte und gute Indische Restaurants liegen auf dem Weg zur Wohnung. Perfekt.
I can only agree with the previous tenants. It was all very good.
Ich kann mich den Vormietern nur anschließen. Es war alles sehr gut.
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"Track Series (Octopus)" is part of the continuing "Derrapagem" series of vinyl-decal mural installations by Brazil-based artist Regina Silveira. Acclaimed for her playful and exaggerated interpretations of space and scale, Silveira engages the layered graphics of car tire tracks to resemble octopus tentacles reaching the length of the gallery. "Track Series (Octopus)" responds to the elongated, rectangular dimensions of the gallery, creating dynamic waves of movement that expand across the wall and encompass visitors as they move through this museum space.
Lecture: Thursday, Sept. 19, 5 p.m.
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Gas or electric pressure washers will clean almost anything outdoors, and they work so quickly and dramatically that they're actually fun. Learn how to use one safely and efficiently.
Pressure washers are so much fun to use—and show such dramatic and quick results—that you'll be begging to clean your neighbors' siding, driveways and cars once you've finished your own. You can rent or buy a pressure washer to clean nearly any outdoor item. By following the tips in this article, you'll learn how to use pressure washers safely and efficiently.
Pressure washers, whether they're powered by electric motors or gas engines, run a pump that pressurizes the water from your garden hose to 1,000 lbs. or more, then forces it out through a spray wand. The higher the pressure (measured in pounds per square inch—psi), the tougher the cleaning jobs they can tackle. Both types require a steady, uninterrupted supply of water (in gallons per minute—gpm). For occasional use, most homeowners will find that a washer with a pressure range of 1,300 to 2,400 psi works best.
Electric pressure washers deliver 1,300 to 1,400 psi, require about 1-1/2 gpm and are the best choice for light-duty cleaning like washing cars (Photo 3), outdoor grills and garage floors (Photo 4). They generally cost less and are quieter, lighter in weight and more portable than gas-powered washers. Many have built-in tanks for optional detergent use. Always connect electric washers to power outlets that are protected by a ground fault circuit interrupter (GFCI) and use only 12- or 14-gauge extension cords.
Most pressure washers that you'll find for rent or sale are gas-powered. This type can deliver higher water pressure than the electric kind, some more than 3,000 psi. But gas-powered washers also require more water: 2 to 3 gpm. These washers are the best choice for bigger jobs like preparing siding for painting (Photo 2), removing "aging" stains from wood decks (Photo 5) and deep-cleaning concrete. You can rent one at tool rental stores, along with accessories like chemical injectors (Photo 1) or longer spray wands for reaching high places. Gas-powered washers (non-commercial units) cost $300 to $800 depending on the pressure they deliver, their features and the engine and pump quality.
Pressure washers that deliver less than 2,400 psi generally come with a single adjustable spray nozzle that delivers zero to 60-degree fan patterns. Some brands offer accessory "rotating" or "turbo" nozzles that clean more effectively than standard adjustable nozzles because they spin the water stream.
Heavier-duty units generally come with four or five color-coded, individual nozzle tips (three are shown here). They create specific fan patterns: wider (for using detergents), medium (for general cleaning) and narrower (for blasting deep stains).
Insert individual nozzle tips into the spray wand by retracting the quickcoupling collar, pushing the tip in as far as it will go and releasing the collar. Pull on the tip to confirm that it's firmly locked in position. Point the spray wand away from people and property when starting the pressure washer.
To start a gas-powered washer:
All pressure washers seem intimidating the first time you use them. Have the rental center or tool retailer instruct you on its use, and follow these guidelines:
Water supply
Make sure your water supply can deliver the gallons per minute specified for your machine. For example, if your pressure washer needs 2-1/2 gpm, time how long it takes your garden hose to fill a 5-gallon pail. The garden hose must be 50 ft. long or less and have a 3/4-in. inside diameter, with standard 3/4-in. hose fittings for connecting to the washer's inlet. To ensure that water circulates unobstructed through the system, check the water inlet filter or screen and clean it of debris. Also make sure the garden and pressure hoses are kink free.
Start-up procedure (Photo 1)
Before starting the washer, it's imperative that water be flowing through the washer and out the spray wand. Follow these steps:
Wash siding to prepare it for painting. Begin with the wand's nozzle 4 ft. from the house and slowly move it closer until you achieve the desired cleaning effect. Grip the spray wand with two hands, direct the water stream at a 45-degree angle to the siding and move the water stream constantly.
Pressure washing removes dirt and grime, but it isn't designed to strip paint or kill mildew on siding or decks. For the best cleaning results without damaging any surfaces, first test the pressure setting and spray pattern on an inconspicuous place. When washing house siding, follow these rules:
Clean cars and other items with an accessory brush and detergent. First rinse the area with water, then switch to a detergent wash and finish with a rinse.
Scour oil and dirt off a garage floor with a detergent:
Renew deck boards by holding the spray wand at a 45-degree angle 1 to 2 ft. from the decking. Keep the water stream constantly moving. Use a higher-pressure (2,000 psi or greater) gas-powered washer and a concentrated spray nozzle setting (15-degree).
Detergents and accessory brushes increase cleaning effectiveness while reducing cleaning time. When renting or buying a pressure washer, inquire what accessories and detergents are available for it. To prevent damage to the internal parts, never run bleach in the machine or use detergents not designated for use in pressure washers.
Detergents can only be run through pressure washers using a wide spray pattern. In addition, electric pressure washers require a low-pressure setting on the spray wand. Follow your machine's instructions for using detergents, diluting the detergent and (if necessary) hooking up a chemical injector (Photo 1).
For the best cleaning results, first loosen the dirt with plain water under high pressure using a medium spray pattern. Next, apply the detergent using a wide nozzle setting and let the detergent sit a few minutes to penetrate the dirt. Keep the surface wet to avoid possible discoloration or damage by the detergent. Finish by resetting the nozzle to a medium pattern (or changing the nozzle) and rinsing with plain water. Switch detergents by draining the first detergent from the pressure washer, rinsing the system with plain water and introducing the next detergent.
Pressure washers deliver extreme pressure and can cause serious injuries if misused. For safety, follow these guidelines:
Winterize a pressure washer by filling the pump and internal system with undiluted RV-type antifreeze. Insert a funnel into a 3-ft. section of garden hose (one with a male faucet coupling), attach the coupling to the water intake on the washer and slide a 1-ft. section of hose over the water outlet. Start the gas engine and pour antifreeze into the funnel until a steady stream of antifreeze flows from the discharge hose. Stop the engine, pull off the hoses, and seal the intake and outlet with duct tape.
If possible, store the washer indoors in the off-season to avoid damage to the pump, hoses and spray wand. Otherwise, winterize them using only antifreeze designed for recreational vehicles (RVs); see Photo 6. When a gas-powered washer won't be used for a month or more, prevent damage to the engine by draining the system of gas or adding a gas preservative to the fuel tank.
Have the necessary tools for this DIY project lined up before you start—you'll save time and frustration.
Besides the pressure washer and a variety of tips, you'll also need a 3/4-in. garden hose and tarps.
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Vans Team Baja Strike Mission
Nathan Fletcher, Pat, Tanner, and Dane Gudauskas head south of the border
The day trip to Baja California—it's a time honored tradition for us surfers in Southern California. And despite the recent violence and hassle of coming back across the border, surfers continue to make the trek. While the boys didn't score all-time conditions, when you're cruising with the Gudauskas bros everything is awesome!
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A versatile rolltop backpack for the urban explorer's photo equipment and personal gear.
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This perfectly-sized contoured pack has easy access to crucial gear and superior protection for when weather takes a turn for the worse.
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DocEmrick wrote:Prague, Czechoslovak Socialist Republic; 1968...
During the height of the Cold War, in the historic city of Prague, District 6 dubbed "Łysołaje," nine individuals gathered at a secret conference at the palace of Łysołaje's most wealthy and influential European family, the Dlugosz's. Their Prandota, or palace, was the largest structure in the Eastern province. The village only held a population of 390, however all of the arrivals on Night 1 were from outlying settlements, though none of them quite knew who the other one was. Surely, the Americans and Russians had both sent their agents to do the dirty work and ensure that the upcoming election was fixed.
The conference was a small, 9 person group discussing the future of the CSSR, and it's role in the Soviet Union. As the participants gathered and tucked in on Night 1, absolutely nothing happened.
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Alright 2 of you already know what this is. Your prob thinking wtf is Random # Day. Well lets just say if it was real, The 3OH3 Web Crew would post on their news Random # Day. Then the info would say, type your cele or home # here and on ____ day we are gonna put your # with your username on a tiny piece of paper, and put it in a box or hat. Then Sean or Nat will pick one of the random # and call it.
The prize winner ofc will be getting a call from Sean and Nat, 1 3OH!3 concert ticket, and a date with Sean and Nat, or just Sean, or just Nat.
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East Peak Fire 100% contained
HUERFANO COUNTY, Colo. - The East Peak Fire at the base of the east Spanish Peak is 100% contained. The fire burned 13,572 acres.
All evacuations ordered because of the fire have been lifted.
Ten structures have been lost along with 4 outbuildings.
Investigators have determined the fire was started by a lightning strike.
Two phone lines have been established for people with questions about the East Peak Fire. You can call (719) 742-3882 or (719) 315-4808.
Governor John Hickenlooper signed an Executive Order Friday (6/21) declaring a disaster emergency in Huerfano and Las Animas Counties because of the fire.
The Executive Order authorizes the transfer of $3 million from the Disaster Emergency Fund to pay for the fire suppression, response and recovery effort related to the fire since it started.


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Home › Forums › General Forums › General Lightweight Backpacking Discussion › scented dr bronner soap and bears
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I plan on using a few drops of DB soap to wash my clothes nightly on the JMT. It is scented (lavender). any issues with bears and a scented soap to wash clothes? Or should I just pony up for nonscented soap?Jul 3, 2013 at 12:48 pm #2002144
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If you can manage to stay so clean that the bears can only smell the soap residue and not your own human fragrance then you might need to be concerned about it, but I rather doubt that will be the case. But personally I would not attempt to wash my clothes with soap while backpacking – too much hassle to keep the soap away from the water sources. simpler to just rinse with water and no soap, and seems plenty clean for the mountains.Jul 3, 2013 at 1:39 pm #2002165
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go with unscented everything… that's my choice… bears will like any of those scented smells a ton more than your BO…
why take a chance?
my 2 scents :)
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@fattexanLocale: NTX
Just rub some Dr. Bonners in the bear's eyeballs, that will keep them at bay.Jul 5, 2013 at 6:13 pm #2002853
I'm just throwing out a theoretical here. Which will probably start a big flaming argument. But when I'm traveling in urban areas, I don't bring Dr. Bronner's, even through the instructions on the larger bottles about how following "God's Plan" and how using it to change the pH of the vagina can prevent pregnancy are rather amusing.
I bring Tide laundry detergent. Because it is a detergent, not a soap – it is vastly better at removing food and body oils and odors. Modern detergents function very well in cold water and rinse out quite quickly.
But, but, this "biodegradable soap" was made by unwashed hippies, so it has to be good for the planet!!!
Whereas no one says "Boo!" if you run your laundry effluent into a septic field, so I see a disconnect here.
When you backpack in a sub-arctic environment, you only use the less-effective soaps.
But I live in a sub-arctic environment and I use the more-effective detergents every day doing loads of laundry. And the Alaska Department of Environmental Conservation and anyone who has ever sampled septic system effluents isn't worried about it infiltrating into the soils and ultimately to the groundwater.
I know I'm being provocative here, but I'm honestly unsure why have different standards for backpackers versus homeowners. Why shouldn't backpackers take advantage of the more effective detergents to wash their clothes as they go (given that they would percolate any waste water far from surface waters).
What fraction of your laundry load is two pair* of undies and two pairs of socks? About 1/40? So 1/40 of a washer load of clothes requires only (I just went and measured it) less than 1 gram of detergent.
*And why do we refer a PAIR of underwear but ONE bra? Shouldn't it be the other way around?
Any thoughts?
Edited to add: that "less than a gram" (0.8 grams) was of Tide, High-efficiency detergent for front-loading washing machines. A lot of top-loading detergents have fillers in them so you are paying less per pound but just getting more bulk.Jul 5, 2013 at 7:11 pm #2002865
Greg MihalikBPL Member
@greg23Locale: Colorado
Thanks David.
I never thought about it before, but it makes sense to me.
Especially the cold water effectiveness and the easy of rinsing.
I'll go find some liquid detergent.Jul 5, 2013 at 7:37 pm #2002870
Billy RaySpectator
@rosyfinchLocale: the mountains
HI David,
there are many cultural blind spots that don't make any sense… perhaps, some day they will resolve the discrepancy that you point out…
but one reason might be that(besides they just don't think of it) it is just not politically feasible for the EPA to come down on every homeowner for using detergents… heads would roll and people would be voted out of office…
but with the park service it's a different story… most of the park users want to keep the water sources clean…
my 2 scents :)
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>"there are many cultural blind spots that don't make any sense"
There's the pair of tongs next the pastry tray that many people have already handled and more will do so.
I pick up only my pastry, directly, touching nothing that anyone else has or will touch.
And they glare at me.
It's an engineers curse: A priest, a doctor and an engineer go golfing. There's a foursome in front of them that is going REALLY slowly. They complain to the staff and are told that four firefighters risked their safety to rush into the burning clubhouse and extinguish a fire at the golf course. They all lost their sight. The golf course has let them golf for free ever since. The priest says, "What an inspirational story! I'm going to use that in my sermon on Sunday and ask my congregation to pray for them." The doctor says, "I'm going to ask my ophthalmologist friend if there's anything you can do for them."
The engineers asks, "Why don't they play at night?"Jul 5, 2013 at 9:32 pm #2002907
Daniel PittmanSpectator
@pitsyLocale: Central Texas
At the local 7-11, I'll pay for my donut first, then go grab it out of the case barehanded and start eating it as I'm walking out the door. Customers coming in that didn't see the first part give me funny looks. NO ONE has ever asked me what the hell I'm doing. People will talk behind your back all day long, and never think to ask a simple direct question. It's as if folks prefer to be offended.Jul 6, 2013 at 7:11 am #2002951
Jim W.BPL Member
@jimqpublicLocale: So-Cal
Soap and modern detergents break down fine in the soil of a leach field. Public lands resource managers aren't worried about groundwater contamination from backpackers, they're worried about surface water contamination.
Detergents are bad for fish, frogs, and assorted critters' mucus layers.
Detergents may add nutrients that feed algae to the water.
So backpackers are careful about using soaps and detergents. We don't wash dishes, hands, clothes, or bodies very well. We forego using a few grams of detergent a day to remove dirt, body oils, food waste, unmentionable waste, sunscreen, and insect poison/repellant from our bodies, clothes, and gear.
Instead we just jump our grimy selves into every lake or stream for a nice swim, proud that we aren't contaminating it with evil detergents.Jul 6, 2013 at 7:25 am #2002956
Jerry AdamsBPL Member
@retiredjerryLocale: Oregon and Washington
I use tiny amount of liquid dish detergent. Just make sure that residue goes on land, not directly into stream or lake.
I hate it when I get drinking water from stream and there is foam from people putting detergent in stream.
I think you're saying that if you emerse your body in lake, way more contaminants pollute the lake than someone with a drop of detergent splashed onto soil.
Scent from detergent or anything could attract mosquitoes. Better to let your clothes just get dirty, less of an attractant.Jul 6, 2013 at 12:06 pm #2003026
JimW: Good info on mucous layers – I hadn't known that. It makes perfect sense because of how much more effective detergents are. And, yeah, either are safe when used far from surface waters. If one was going to use something in or near surface waters (they never should), soap would be better.
LOL on the image of a rainbow sheen of organic- and petro-chemicals around the bathing backpacking.
Note: dishwashing liquid for hand-washing dishes is a soap, not a detergent. Detergents are too harsh on your skin to use frequently, while most soaps are not. But it is that same difference – the detergent's greater ability to dissolve oils – that make them more effective in washing clothes. When on urban trips, I use a pinch of detergent with my clothes and water in a gallon zip-lock. Time and agitation to the extent it is easy (flip it over every time you pass the sink or, on a road trip, leave it in a tub and let the car's motion stir things around). Then two rinses, wringe it out, hang it up. All hotel rooms have clothes dryers in the form of a hair dryer.
If you can keep an eye on your food continuously or have passed out of a bear area, some bear canisters make great laundry tubs. Just dump the wash water far from surface water and onto organic, well-drained soils (like a forest floor – not a swamp or a rock surface).Jul 8, 2013 at 12:58 pm #2003779
JJ WillcoxonSpectator
@h2oboyLocale: Midwest
Detergent soaps can compromise the effectiveness of many of the clothing items that many of us use as well.
I don't use detergent on my hiking clothes at home,either. I use Sport Suds. Check the labels on your "wicking" and "DWR" coated items and you'll see a warning about using detergent based cleaning solutions on them.Jul 8, 2013 at 1:10 pm #2003784
> "Detergent soaps can compromise the effectiveness of many of the clothing items."
Quite true. The same properties that remove dirt and oil from fabric (reducing the surface energy in chemical kinetic terms), mean that some detergents can remove desired materials on fabric – breathable membranes, polyurethane coatings, etc.
When I use detergent on the trail or in the hotel room, it is for t-shirts and underwear and uncoated clothes I spilled food on – stinky stuff. Never for coated fabrics. Thanks for the reminding everyone!
My simplified mental model of soaps is that they increase the solubility of dirt and oils in the wash water. Detergents do that too, but they also slip between the oil and the fabric, like a chemical knife blade shaving off the dirt layer. Hence their greater effectiveness.Jul 10, 2013 at 5:59 pm #2004609
Scott BentzBPL Member
@scottbentzLocale: Southern California
"Instead we just jump our grimy selves into every lake or stream for a nice swim, proud that we aren't contaminating it with evil detergents."
But we do jump in with DEET and SPF 60!Jul 10, 2013 at 7:57 pm #2004669
USA Duane HallBPL Member
@hikerduaneLocale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
I've used Dr. Bronner's for 30+? years now, on myself and on my shirt, half pair of undies and pair of socks. :) I always rinse far away from water, bringing my old bleach bottle half bottom as my pan. It also is used to carry water to rinse the soap out of my hair after I have wet my hair from a water source. I used to bring a solar shower which would get my away from cold water baths, but have not used it for some years now. When my dog(s) were alive and since, I have never had issues with bears, they always climb a tree or take off, whether with or without cubs. The only trouble I have had have been from mice trying to get at my food. Two failed terminally.
DuaneJul 11, 2013 at 9:36 am #2004782
Eileen DuncanBPL Member
@eileensdLocale: The Sierra or the SF Bay Area
If you follow LNT principals, you leave Dr. Bronner's (and all other soaps) at home. I never bring any soap ("bio-degradable" or not) into the backcountry and advocate for others to do the same. It is true, I jump in streams and wash off sunscreen (no DEET unless absolutely desperate), but that's no reason to make an even greater impact by saying "oh well, I'm putting sunscreen in, why not a little soap too!?" There is absolutely no logic in that…
If you must use soap because you're concerned with how you smell in the backcountry (!?!?!?) then how about using your cook-pot and washing well away from any (potential) running water?Jul 11, 2013 at 10:06 am #2004794
USA Duane HallBPL Member
@hikerduaneLocale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
I disagree. I wash my hair well away from water, if we went further, we'd all stay home as it seems we are not part of nature. Our know it all USFS and Park Service want us camping and disposing of human waste at least 100' from water. In Alaska, they even advocate throwing fish entrails back into the water.
PS: I' have to research this Eileen. A quick search only gave me someones personal thoughts. As I've read here and it seems folks want a source of the info, I'll look into more. One of the persons felt soap was not LNT but leaving human waste in a hole was fine.Jul 11, 2013 at 10:21 am #2004806
peter vaccoMember
@fluffinreach-comLocale: no. california
" A lot of top-loading detergents have fillers in them so you are paying less per pound but just getting more bulk. "
i sort of wondered about that yesterday when i bought 22 POUNDS of Sun brand laundry soap for all of $9.48 (+ of course california's ever rsing sales tax).
a bit of a warning though about Tide in your pack. it's potent odious stench will quickly percoalte thru any number of zip lock bags, and soon i had dozens of pounds of food tained with the frikk'n springtime fresh breeze aroma of Tide soap.
not All laundry soaps will do this goodness for you. it takes experimentation to find Whisk unscented or Trader Joes (ever so organic) laundry soaps, and they seem not to travelt he benefits of a fresh offShore Breeze into your(my) food.
if you stuff filthy clothing in a silnylon bag, add water a soap, you can smush and agitate it without too badly freezing your hands, and you can carry the most of the soapy water away from the creek/river/lake. it also allows my soiled rags to soak a bit, which is important if using water only marginally liquidic.
i use Campsuds (cheap by the big bottle). some of the shampoo's and dish soaps these days have not-so-much oomph per volume (wieght) anymore.
not sure about that shampoo apostrophe. tried it both ways.
… courage.
v.Jul 11, 2013 at 10:26 am #2004809
The NPS and USFS are correct on this point: keep chemicals (soap, shampoo, sunscreen, etc) out of surface waters. Leave them (and human waste) in the most organic-rich soil well away from surface water. It works. It is the basis for septic system (and many of my clean ups of toxic-waste sites).
The logic about returning salmon frames to the river is that the whole fish would have decomposed there shortly after spawning so those nutrients are a long-time, established input to the system and important to various species. (Although the river banks are kind of rank in the Fall with all the spawned-out carcasses).Jul 11, 2013 at 10:31 am #2004811
peter vaccoMember
@fluffinreach-comLocale: no. california
" I hate it when I get drinking water from stream and there is foam from people putting detergent in stream. "
true enough, tht is a disgusting experieince.
more : if ou go farther and farther afield, you will/may arrive at a place where there in remote possibility that anybody is upstream. possibly for ever and ever, if not several decades. the water is a clean s water (ebing quite the solvent that it is) is going to get.
there will, on occasion, be scummy bubbles.
i suspect thaty are either organic in nature, or come down from above in rain.
no xhit about that "from above" . any ocean ice you can find , in the spring, when it's emlting out, will have puddles, and in those puddles will be a slimy layer of ash. ohh yeah. it's there.
Lock Levan lakes: two young CUTIES standing in the lake (just recently ripe they were), washing their hair.
i stood there and, well … SHE (my lady) called it staring, but i the clever one, spun it into "glaring" at them for being so un-green.
there are times i am practically a saint.
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When asked if bees sleep, I didn't have a good answer...
One can be found here:
When asked if bees sleep, I didn't have a good answer...
One can be found here:
Trying to think inside the box...
Why wouldn't bees sleep?
What doesn't sleep?
That said, books I have read say they do.
But again, why wouldn't they?
I don't recall reading that bees sleep, and when asked about it my first reaction is to do a little research instead of simply replying "of course!"
A little google search will provide links to both answers.
A study that Thomas Selley was involved with is noteworthy in my opinion.
I believe there may be a number of things that rest but don't sleep.
Trying to think inside the box...
Thanks for posting that interesting study. I've occasionally heard that honey bees don't sleep. (I think it was by people prone to give their hives a whack at night and put an ear to the side.)
So it is clear that honey bees do sleep, but, perchance, to dream?
But I did recall reading that bees sleep so I did not need to research it.
Besides, since bees can't close their eyes only some study devised by men could try to prove if they are "resting" or "sleeping". And as is proven so often the test are very fallible and is easily interpreted as one wishes it to be.
My post was based on 2 things.
1) That I had read that bees sleep (though as I say this doesn't automatically make it so).
2) Whether people want to call it "rest" or "sleep" is subjective to their own views.
I see it as only logical that they sleep. All things rest (or sleep depending on the rules you set for sleep).
Again I didn't mean my post to come across as being sharp,
I have opened hives before without smoking and have seen bees head first in cells. It was evident that they were not moving nor was their abdomen pulsating but yet they appeared to be alive.
De Colores,
Ted Hooper mentions it in passing in his Guide to Bees and Honey (1976).
It probably isn't mentioned much since I doubt even "scientists" care to waist to much time on it.
Impossible to answer. Sleep in mammals generally is detected by closed eyes, which bees don't do. Inactive is more accurate.
published reports showing that approximately half of the bees in a colony at a given time are working while the rest are either inactive or patrolling, with a bias toward inactivity
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I"m closing my eyes right now, and I am not sleeping. And I'm a mammal.
There are definitions of sleep in humans, that are based on objective measurements determined by EEG readings.
changed my mind - I don't want to know the answer.
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I have a hive that beards every night (and strangely only at night), anyway, I can and have stood beside the hive and watched the beard without thumping on them to wake them up. I can tell you with all certainty that unless bees also sleepwalk, those bees weren't asleep. But I can not say whether or not any bees on the inside are asleep or not. Also, there is a streetlight about a hundred to 150 feet from the hive which casts light on the entrance, so maybe that keeps the bees on the outside from sleeping.
Also, if I put my stethescope up to the hive at night without thumping on it, I can hear the bees crawling around... though I'm not sure if I'm just hearing the bees that are bearded or bees inside the hive.
I've always assumed that bees don't sleep but do rest, but I have no source to back that up.
The accepted standard to define sleep is a pattern of coordinated changes in the EMG, EEG, and EOG. This pattern has been identified only in mammals and birds. Clearly, recording mass CNS activity in an attempt to identify patterns similar to the state-related EEG changes found in birds and mammals cannot logically be expected to produce interpretable results in invertebrates or even in vertebrates without a cortex.
In 1984, Campbell and Tobler reviewed over 100 studies in over 150 species seeking evidence for sleep from invertebrates to primates, using behavioral criteria. Using these criteria to review previous laboratory and field studies, the authors concluded that there is evidence for sleep-like states in 19 species of fish, 16 reptiles, and nine amphibians, as well as several invertebrates (cockroach, bee, octopus).
Honeybees and cockroaches have been extensively studied. Both of these insects exhibited spontaneous circadian periods of inactivity that could last for hours. During the inactive periods, these insects relaxed their postures, even dropping the antennae, head and body onto the floor of the container. When stimulated during the rest state, the insects were relatively unresponsive.
Throughout evolution, serotonin appears to play a role in modulating state-related sensory input and motor activity levels. We have also seen that this neurotransmitter facilitates the acquisition of learning in invertebrate systems. Does serotonin play a conserved role in modulating sensory input to promote sleep in synchrony with circadian systems and facilitate neural plasticity by this means?
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I thousands of bees would ever all sleep at once - I think if you imagine it as a large hotel. Anyone who has stayed in one knows all the guests don't sleep when you do.
I see one of my previous comments was incorrect.


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text: Went by where an old beekeeper used to live the other day and found 2 half rotten hives full of bees! He has not lived there in 15 yrs and passed away 2 years ago. Got in contact with his sister and asked permission to get the bees to which she agreed. I went today and opened the hives up to see what would be needed to get the bees. 1 hive has 1 super on it the other has 2 supers, one of which was a section super. Both hives full of honey, bees and ants. All apparently living together happily. Everything is rotten so I will not be able to salvage any of the frames. I am going to try to cut the brood in sections and put in new frames with rubber bands to hold it in place. The bees are Italians and would you believe extremely docile. The smoker went out when I was just starting into the second hive and I didn't bother to relight it since the bees weren't being that agressive. Not 1 stinger in my suit or gloves, not even a head butt. Am planning to go back Tuesday and try to move/salvage the brood to 2 new boxes. Not sure just which way to go with the supers 1)put old supers on new boxes and let bees move what they will down into the new brood section 2)Cut it out of old frames into a tub and let the bees bring it back in 3) squeeze the honey out and feed it back to them in a feeder. Boy, I hope I can save the queens to raise some stock from these bees. Any tips or suggestions would be welcomed in the best way to handle these 2 hives.