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Ok all you build it yourself people. What do you use for metal on Tele covers you make? Where do you normally get it? And how do you bend the sides down?
Ok all you build it yourself people. What do you use for metal on Tele covers you make? Where do you normally get it? And how do you bend the sides down?
I buy 24" by 50 ft roll of flashing at a local lumber yard.
Check out this thread for how I bend it. http://www.beesource.com/forums/show...g-outer-covers
I get my aluminum 24"x 50 ft. coil at a siding and roofing place, and I bend it using the same method that ralittlefield suggested, it works very well with nice crisp corner bends. John
Aluminum trim coil that has been painted white from the factory. Quality edge brand. You can find it at most siding supply warehouses. 80.00 or so.
If you only need a couple, contact a local siding crew. They should be able to help you out with "leftovers" from jobs. They may even bend you up a couple for a six pack.
I cut it length and bend with my fingers.
I watch "craigslist" and buy it cheap IF I can, I found some last fall 24"x50` for 35 bux a roll and I have a pan/box break to bned it with.
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I used galvanized steel commonly used for HVAC. HD doesn;t carry large flat stock, but Lowe's does. I bent it by hand after scribing a straight line where i wanted the bends to be. i used a nail as a scribe for this. The aluminum will be easier to bend, but i had no trouble with the thin steel sheet.
I buy a 20" x 10' roll of aluminum flashing at our local lumber store (in the roofing supplies area). My homemade covers are usually not quite square, so it works best for me to just bend by hand and staple right on the cover. Goes fast, I figure about a dollar per cover this way.
life is finite while knowledge is infinite. - Zhuang Zi
Better bee has just the metal pans . That work great if you limited for time. They are about $7.00 each and you have to buy 10
Dadant will sell just the steel part. Make sure you make your roofs to there dimensions. We bought around 100 and where very pleased with the way they fit.
Crazy Roland
Here in So California we do not need much protection from the rain. Also - I am very small scale, just 3 hives... thus, I do not use metal on top covers - I just place a piece of something (plastic, metal) on top when needed (usually 2-3 times per year ). For my other bee-related projects, I am using a thin galvanized sheet metal from HomeDepot. It is thin enough that I could use strong but ordinary scissors to cut it (well, scissors will be ruined after that...). If I would need to put metal on top cover, I would cut metal to the size, place actual cover in the center and bent metal around the top cover by hands using piece of wood to make bent more straight. Top cover functions as a guide. This way, I made oil trays. I do not know how thick metal is, but you should be able to bend it with fingers.
Серёжа, Sergey
I use white 45 mil TPO roll roofing material instead of metal.
Cuts with sizzors, and is plyable to bend around corners. I just staple the sides over.
Flat roofing companies alway have plenty of scraps you can get for free.
Here is what the TPO looks like:
I haves used heavy vinyl and stapled it on also, worked great. I also visit the local scrap yard and sometimes can find used signs made of aluminum that measure 4 or 5 feet by 8 feet. I can buy them cheap. The last trip I was able to buy 10 signs for $150.


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He's cheeky, that Dizzee Rascal, and not afraid to indulge in a bit of harmless self-promotion.
The East London motormouth bounded onto the stage at Vector Arena's Back to the Future show on Friday with his DJ and two henchmen clad in a "Bassline Junkie" T-shirt, the name of his latest catchy single currently bombarding the airwaves.
And Rascal's highly entertaining set featured plenty of that "big, dirty, stinking bass", as he roared through his biggest hits and tried out some new material on the up-for-it crowd, at the superclub-styled show featuring acts en route to the Future Music Festivals across the Ditch.
Oozing with energy, Rascal and co cavorted around every inch of the stage making you wonder how he had enough breath to spit out his rhymes, which ran the gamut from Fix Up, Look Sharp and Jus' a Rascal off 2003 debut Boy in Da Corner, to Flex from Maths + English and crowd pleaser Dance Wiv Me from his last album Tongue n' Cheek.
He saved big club banger Bonkers, made with electro house producer Armand van Helden, for the encore.
Great fun, even if you're not entirely convinced about the more commercial direction his music seems to be heading in.
Hopefully co-headliner, up-and-coming New York rapper Azealia Banks, was watching Rascal and his cronies carefully and taking a few notes on their awesome stage presence.
Not that Banks is a terrible performer - far from it - it's just that she's got a way to go before she'll command the same attention on stage as someone as seasoned as Rascal.
Of course, the gorgeous young star, who has had a rapid rise to fame over the past year and is being touted as "the next big thing" in hip-hop, is still developing as an artist and is yet to even release an album. But there's no denying her raw talent.
Wearing sunglasses and a bizarre outfit of silver bustier crop top and harem pants, Banks rattled through a short set of her fresh, energetic and often x-rated throaty rap from last year's mixtape and EP Fantasea and 1991.
There was no sign of new material from her forthcoming album, Broke With Expensive Tastes, but she did perform her remix of Baauer's chart-topping Harlem Shake which got her into trouble with the US producer when she released it online without his permission.
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Comes three years after first big phone, text scam
BEND, Ore. - It happened to the Bank of the Cascades three years ago -- Central Oregonians were bombarded with automated phone calls and scams asking for account information -- and on Friday, the fake texts were back.
"Our customer Service team at the Bank of the Cascades is obviously highly on alert," said Chief Banking Officer Chip Reeves on Friday.
Reeves said the scam started on Sunday with a handful of calls. People received texts saying their accounts were deactivated and a number was provided to call. That number directed them to key in their account numbers.
" It's frustrating for the whole industry," Reeves said. "The entire banking industry will never, ever contact any of their customers asking specifically for social security numbers, for account numbers, pins."
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Bank of the Cascades' name has been circulating in a text message scam targeting a group of Central Oregon community members. The text messages misleadingly tell recipients that their bank card has been de-activated and to call a local phone number where they are prompted to enter their bank card numbers. If you have received a message like this, please do not respond and contact Bank of the Cascades or your financial institution immediately.
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Oak Grove developers file lawsuit
Original post made on Dec 20, 2007
The suit asks the court to block the efforts of a group called Save Pleasanton's Hills and its chief organizer, former City Councilwoman Kay Ayala, from proceeding with plans to stop the development.
Read the full story here Web Link posted Thursday, December 20, 2007, 10:41 AM
Comments (27)
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Dec 20, 2007 at 11:14 am
Surprise, surprise. Another referendum heading to court for a judge to decide. So much for that beloved "voice of the people" direct democracy process. This would not have occurred if the property owners' attorney didn't think they had a case. I think it also shows a willingness to go to court over the matter since this is happening so early in the game. Look out, initiative!
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Dec 20, 2007 at 11:23 am
How can 4 years in the planning process be called fast tracked? I can't imagine how long a slow-tracked project would take!!!
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Dec 20, 2007 at 12:04 pm
Hi Stacey!
Michael Roush has already taken a position that the petitions meet the requirements imposed for seeking a referendum. I am pretty sure our city attorney has some experience in this regard.
I am not a mind reader, but if I were to imagine myself in the developer's position looking at the number of signatures collected (which of my recollection is the largest total number of any referendum in Pleasanton) and the millions spent by Pardee Homes' campaigning for the "Livermore Trails" development in North Livermore (also a Lin property) only to lose an election by a wide margin, well, I would consider running to the courts.
Speaking rhetorically, if one believes a democratic vote won't prevail, what option other than the courts is there? (I suppose in some countries a military could be used to crack some heads!)
Once the Alameda County Registrar notifies the City Council that the required number of signatures are valid, the City Council has a brief time to decide whether to rescind approval or place the matter on Pleasanton's next election (I don't think the referendum can wait until November 08, I believe it needs to be March or maybe June). By then the City of Pleasanton, I believe, will be firmly obligated to defend the referendum.
In a purely speculative editorial comment, this appears to be a SLAPP suit (Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation).
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Dec 20, 2007 at 3:49 pm
The number of signatures on a petition is not a measure of anything when and if the petition is found defective for the reasons charged in the lawsuit, which amount to a charge of misleading the public that signed the petition. Since many of us participated very actively in these threads during the signature gathering phase discussing and arguing these very issues, so it is not surprising to me the lawsuit was filed. We are all very familiar with the tactics and mis-representations that were rampant.
Under the law if the party of interest believes the petition is invalid because of any defect, they lose their right to sue once the election takes place. Therefore, the lawsuit must be filed before the election if it to be filed at all.
Regarding city attorneys as generally being expert in land use law, it is my opinion that one cannot conclude this to be generally true. Further, city attorneys are generally conflicted in matters of politics, whereas private law firms march to a different drummer, so to say.
Normally courts will be hesitant to find against an initiative or referendum pre-election, but they have if the defect is serious so as to affect the signers when they sign the petition. So, we can all speculate one way or the other, but it is clear that this thing has now moved to a court both because the developer has a financial interest and the Save Our Hills group provided a reasonable legal basis for the lawsuit through their actions.
a resident of Parkside
on Dec 20, 2007 at 4:48 pm
This is a last ditch attempt by the developer in filing this "SLAPP" suit.
frank, you say it is clear that this has moved to a court since the "Save Our Hills group provided a reasonable legal basis for the lawsuit through their actions." We all know, since we see it all the time, you do not need a reasonable legal basis to file suit. Anybody for any reason can file a suit; no matter how frivolous it is. Filing a suit does not gie any credibility to the argument. It only means you have a lawyer that is being paid one way or another.
I would hope the council tells them if they pursue this then the council will look at rescinding the approval without it going to the people. This would be similar to what happened with Ponderosa. If this does not happen then we might see a Council & Mayor recall petition floating soon. The Council cannot ignore those 5200+ signatures from Pleasanton residents (yes I know they need to be verified but the number is probably up there). I have never seen anything like this where the elected officials are out on the streets with signs telling the residents not to sign something that brings an issue to a vote of the people. They must strongly believe that the project will be voted down by the public. Otherwise they would be saying, "bring it on."
In an ironic twist, those collecting signatures had more information on them than the Council had in their packet when the Council voted upon it. So maybe the developer also feels that the vote by the Council to approve the plan is invalid since they did not have the complete tree report and other information when they voted on it?
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Dec 20, 2007 at 5:10 pm
Hi Frank! (Wow, just like old times)
This matter is about State of California Election Law, not land use.
I seemed odd to me that Cox, Castle & Nicholson LLP would have argue the case Mr. R. Clark Morrison (no relation, except maybe from back in Scotland), listed in the "Best Lawyers in America" 2007 Directory as with a specialty in Land Use and Zoning.
Indeed, Mr. Morrison is described in material for an upcoming January 2008 seminar on California Wetlands as, "… experienced with large and controversial development projects". Hmmm.
Your argument about conflicts is really funky in that you seem to be inferring that private firms are less conflicted??? Indeed, private firms march to a different drummer, the one that pays 'em!
Over many years I have found Michael Roush to be in generally right-on in his analysis, sometimes a bit conservative. I have to believe this isn't the first time such charges have been leveled against a referendum here (Didn't the Merritt Property developers threaten to sue?). Under his tenure there have been at least a half dozen referendums, ergo I expect he is familiar with the requirements.
Since our Mayor and three city council members support the Oak Grove development, under your supposition wouldn't Mr. Roush be inclined to withhold judgment on the merits rather than state the petitions meet the requirements? After all, he is essentially putting the City on record against this, "… absolutely fatal flaw." (C. Morrison)
I agree with Jerry. To me this looks, smells and tastes like a SLAPP.
a resident of Downtown
on Dec 20, 2007 at 5:46 pm
When you divide 5,200 by 70,000 (estimate for the current population of Pleasanton), you get 7.4%. I think this ratio is important because it represents the percentage of Pleasantonians that are against the Oak Grove project. Granted, some of the 92.6% of people who didn't sign the petitions cannot vote. It's just something to think about: 7.4% of Pleasanton are possibly jeopardizing this compromise land development project.
Now let's divide 77 acres (designated for the 51 homes) by 573 (total acreage of land under dispute) and you get 13.4%. This number represents the ratio of land that will not be the open space public park (86.6% of the land will be). Now consider that on this 13.4% of the total land area, there will be 51 houses on it. Hmm, let's see how we can compare this better.
There are 43,560 sq.ft. in 1 acre, the land for houses is 77 acres, so that's a total of 3,354,120 sq.ft. Ok, let's say each house will be an average to 12,000 sq.ft. And if 51 homes will be built, then that's a total of 612,000 sq.ft. of land used up for houses.
I wonder what the ratio of land used for houses will be to the total amount of Oak Grove land? Of Oak Grove land zoned for the houses?
So 612,000 sq.ft. house land divide by 3,354,120 sq.ft. of total land zoned for houses gives me 18.2%. Then let's take 612,000 sq.ft. and divide by the total acreage of Oak Grove land 24,959,880 sq.ft. (573acres x 43,560sq.ft.) and I get 2.5% of the total land will have houses on it.
Hmmm, and there's so far 7.4% of Pleasantonians in opposition to developing 2.5% of 573 acres. 2.5% of the hills will be saved? Huh?
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 20, 2007 at 5:47 pm
Someone better check their facts. The City attorney did not validate the referendum but only restated the intent by the authors of the referendum. In fact, the quote from Mr. Rausch used on the web site was taken out of context and the city attorney asked that it either be removed or have it presented within context. The web site allowed it to remain as originally presented, thus misleading many people. Again, I think it was Matt Sullivan who asked the the petition gatherers be honest and upfront when presenting their petition. Please, that would have been nice. I was approached a number of times with erroneous information and I know of people who started supporting the petition then withdrew their support when they knew all the facts. I asked questions and was told that I just did not understand the politics of this town.
By the way, there are a lot of Pleasanton residents who put heart and soul into this compromise. There is a grass roots group who is fighting this referendum.
I am really tired of people painting the "other side" as a group who doesn't care about the community. The politics of personal distruction will destroy this community. Personal allegations against people because they disagree will destroy this community. Focusing on this "us against them", (and we all know who "them" are) will destroy this community. Sometimes people disagree.
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Dec 20, 2007 at 7:09 pm
So, let me address the salient points of protest to my post. The first involves frivolous lawsuits and willing to pay a lawyer.
While this could be true, we will determine how substantive the claim is in the preliminary hearing, at which time, if frivolity is dominant, the judge will find it and dismiss the claim. Further, I think one should assume that we are dealing with a professional private law firm that specializes in land use law and doesn't simply take clients money without providing good legal advice upon which its reputation depends. So, let's wait till the preliminary hearing before one concludes there is no basis for a lawsuit induced by defendant's actions.
Now regarding the city attorney, I have no knowledge regarding what his expertise is relative to either land use law or the law regarding initiatives and referenda. I simply warned that expertise should not be assumed. I further made a general statement regarding city attorneys being conflicted in matters of politics. This my opinion based upon experience with lawyers in general. Lawyers will generally take the devil's advocate position on matters as a tactic to bring out facts, issues, and concerns when dealing with BOTH clients as well as opponents. It is very effective and usually surfaces the facts quite efficiently. Once done, what if any legal action should be taken becomes apparent to everyone. I have observed city attorneys to be in a position where practicing this normal lawyering tactic is substantively inhibited by the immense political pressures put upon them on certain situations, this being one of them. Therefore, in my opinion I tend to diminish the weight I place upon their legal advice in situations that are highly controversial. I don't know any of the details regarding what our city attorney did or did not opine in this situation, but simply responded to the post where weight was placed upon a claimed opinion by our city attorney. However, the recent post suggests that the claimed opinion is not true.
On the last point, I will restate that 5,200 signatures of people who were mis-lead into signing the petition, if shown to be true, is NOT democracy in action!
a resident of Danbury Park
on Dec 20, 2007 at 8:07 pm
You know quite well that the 5,200+ signatures reflected about 14% of the registered voters in Pleasanton. Last I remember we have many kids in our community who cannot vote yet and others in the community who are not registered for some reason or another. There are also a great deal of the 18-21 year olds who are registered but go to school outside the area so it would be unlikely to find them during the last month to sign their name in person (they don't have absentee signatures for initiatives/referendums yet). Getting that many signatures shows the concern the community has.
And you really think that having another several hundred pages attached to the signature page would have influenced people not to sign.
If you want some more stats, this plan calls for 750,000 cubic yards of dirt to be removed for the roads and the rough grading of the lot (does not include the final grading of the homes since we don't know exactly how large they will be). So divide 750,000 cubic yards of dirt with 51 homes and you have 14,705 cubic yards of dirt being removed for each home. I heard a truck that moves dirt can hold 10 cubic yards of dirt. So each home is requiring 1,451 truck loads of dirt to be moved. That is an incredible amount of dirt for each house!
That other poster was right, Shelley, you really want more houses in Pleasanton!
a resident of Castlewood
on Dec 20, 2007 at 8:14 pm
I'm going to be very interested to see how many of the 5200 signatures are deemed valid. Everytime I was asked to sign the petition, nobody first asked me if I was a Pleasanton resident or if I was a registered voter. Also, I wonder how many people signed the petition multiple times thinking they were helping the cause? I guess time will tell. . .
a resident of Castlewood Heights
on Dec 20, 2007 at 9:38 pm
Actually, I would like to think that most college students were home for Thanksgiving break and would have been around for at least part of the time to have the opportunity to sign the petition.
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Dec 20, 2007 at 9:44 pm
Isn't 5,200+ signatures about 14% of the registered voters in Pleasanton _who voted in the last election only_, not 14% of all registered voters in Pleasanton?
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 20, 2007 at 10:00 pm
The description used by the editor "Taiwan-based property owners Jennifer and Frederic Lin have ..." borders on racism...designed to promote hatred. We have enough(too many)xenophobic residents of Pleasanton who desire an all white City, without cultural, religious, and ethnic diversity.
The Lin's have owned property in this City, and in the TriValley longer than most of the current residents.
Shame on you...
a resident of Castlewood Heights
on Dec 20, 2007 at 10:13 pm
Yes, and if I'm not mistaken, Frederic Lin is a US citizen.
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Dec 20, 2007 at 10:25 pm
Shelley wrote: "Hmmm, and there's so far 7.4% of Pleasantonians in opposition to developing 2.5% of 573 acres. 2.5% of the hills will be saved? Huh?"
Here's another way to look at it. There's only 51 homes proposed. Say each household holds 2.59 people (US 2000 census avg. household size). That's about 129 more people in a 570 acre area to add to Pleasanton's 67,000 or so population. And Save Pleasanton Hills calls that "uncontrolled growth" in their initiative. *scratches head*
If the Lins and the developer had their way, Oak Grove would look just like Kottinger Ranch, but this current development plan that everyone seems so eager to referend will prevent that. Maybe in the future if the referendum and initiative passes, Oak Grove will still end up looking as offensive as Kottinger Ranch on those hills.
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Dec 20, 2007 at 10:28 pm
I remember when Danbury Park was a nice field.
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Dec 21, 2007 at 8:17 am
Let's remember that valid and verified signatures are different than the number of signatures that the "Save Pleasanton Hills" group claims. They will be verified for legibility and current voter registration minus the people who submitted withdrawal forms. We will have to wait and see on the outcome.
What is everyone afraid of at the ballot box? A costly and unneccessary election! There is no regularly scheduled municipal election in June so there are costs associated with an election. Nevermind the amount of money that both sides will have to spend to defend or fight the project. In addition, look at the number of valuable and talented community leaders who could be doing and spending money on something else, like maybe the Firehouse Arts Center.
The City Council did not go against the citizens voice when they encouraged people not to sign. They were backing an action they took. And by the way, they had two feet of information when they voted on the project.
If you are going to threaten recall (or referendum for that matter) everytime the Council does something you disagree with, God help us all. Why have a representative democracy at all? Our voice to elect councilmembers happens every even numbered year in November. Public service is noble and we sure don't act appreciative of the time and energy our elected officials put in on very difficult issues.
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Dec 21, 2007 at 8:59 am
BTW, Hi Matt. It is always a pleasure to see your participation around here on the PW Town Forum. You are one of the few contributors, along with Frank, who are able to hold good civil discussions. I enjoy reading it. Regarding Livermore Trails, someone elsewhere on this blog corrected me that Weyerhauser owned that property. I tried to look it up and it seems like the Lins were co-owners somehow. An important difference between the Livermore Trails project and Oak Grove I think is that Pardee had to campaign because they were trying to get the Livermore UGB expanded whereas Oak Grove is already within Pleasanton's UGB. The parkland that comes with the Oak Grove project will secure that southern UGB.
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Dec 21, 2007 at 2:59 pm
Stacey, thank you very much for your kind words (I also noticed your letter to the editor in another paper had some nice things to say). Frank's a hard hitter who certainly keeps me on my toes (thanks Frank!).
Shelly, a referendum does not in itself overturn a city council decision. It allows every registered voter the opportunity to weigh in on the decision (if the city council does not reverse itself). If only 7.4% of voters in the referendum are against the project it will go forward as planned.
It has been my experience that most Pleasanton residents fervently support preserving our surrounding ridgelines in their natural state and, of course, that is the central concern with this development. Not how many acres or how big the houses.
Fact checker, the event I referred to involves the letter sent by Lin's attorney, R. Clark Morrison, to the city requesting the signatures not be submitted to the county. The Weekly quotes Mr. Roush as saying the petitions meet the requirements which is contrary to R.C. Morrison's (don't want to confuse the Morrison's here) primary argument that petitioners were required to present more information to potential signers. I think you are confusing this with the city attorney's legal statement on the initiative, a quote from which was used by "Save Our Hills".
Susan, only an initiative is required to be on either a special election or the next regular municipal election. The referendum will likely be on the State Primary election in June.
Public Service is noble. Are you implying that being an elected official is the only avenue one can serve a community? Citizen committees and grass roots activism is vital to our democracy because not everyone has the capability or the passion to oversee the actions of our government ("by the people", remember?). I serve on the "Friends of Pleasanton" steering committee, will begin another term on the Tri-Valley Sierra Club's Executive Committee next year, served on the 2007 Sierra Club S.F. Bay Chapter's Nomination Committee, represented the Sierra Club this year on Zone 7's Streamwise flood control master plan, and volunteer regularly for a local community service group. I also am a member of Tri-Valley Cares to help participate in the peace and anti-nuclear movement. I am one of many who "give back" to our communities in causes we are passionate about.
I keep in mind the quote, "My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right." (Senator CARL SCHURZ, remarks in the Senate, February 29, 1872)
a resident of Downtown
on Dec 21, 2007 at 4:43 pm
I just want to re-state this so it is clear. I wrote "7.4% of Pleasantonians" and I also recognized the fact that "some of the 92.6% of people who didn't sign the petitions cannot vote."
Approximately 92.6% of the people in Pleasanton *who can or cannot vote* would otherwise possibly benefit from having a public park if it weren't for the "7.4% of Pleasantonians" who want stop the development of 2.5% of 573 acres.
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Dec 22, 2007 at 11:51 am
You are making up numbers and trying to convince yourself with numbers that this is not what the community wants. I have a novel idea. Let's let the people vote on it! Then we can settle this.
My guess is that the number of signatures collected for this referendum are much more than collected for the first Kottinger Hills Referendum, the Merritt Property Referendum, and the Ponderosa Referendum. I would also speculate that the number of signatures collected here in 30 days are more then collected in 6 months for all citizen initiatives in Pleasanton (going backwards that would be: Build our Sports Park, Save the Bernal Property Park, Save our Pleasanton Ridgelines, and probably more).
Approximately 92.6% of the people in Pleasanton *who can or cannot vote* would possibly benefit from having our hills and environment protected. We can let those who vote make the decision. That is what democracy is all about.
I would also expect that if the development is voted down in a referendum at the same election as our council/mayoral election that those people who support the development will also be voted out. I can see who those who voted for this development and are up for re-election in 2008 do not want this item on the ballot. They could be risking their re-election on this development. I can see that there will be a lot of contributions by developers going into this next election.
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Dec 22, 2007 at 11:58 am
All of Pleasanton will benefit from the protection to the hills and environment _inside the UGB_ as granted by ordinance 1962. If ordinance 1961 is overturned, so is ordinance 1962. I think it is ignorance when others think that somehow referending ordinance 1961 will help protect the hills anymore than ordinance 1962 will. Why do you think so many open space and parks advocates are against referending ordinance 1961?
a resident of Downtown
on Dec 22, 2007 at 12:20 pm
"You are making up numbers and trying to convince yourself with numbers that this is not what the community wants."
Actually quite the contrary! I wanted to get different perspective when looking at the issue. So I started *calculating numbers from the facts* about the Oak Grove development. The facts being that the total acreage is 573, 77 of which will have 51 homes on it. I wanted to get a better sense of the issue by looking at the ratios of land to be developed into housing vs. land to be developed as a natural park vs. the ratio of people who have so far stated they do not like the project by signing the petitions vs. the overall number of people in Pleasanton. That's all.
"...trying to convince yourself with numbers that this is not what the community wants."
Well, actually I'm trying to use numbers to get a better idea if this is actually what the community wants, or only 7.4% of the community.
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Dec 22, 2007 at 12:27 pm
I think what the community wants is for the hills to be preserved. I'd like to see that too. So the question is, how do we do that? The referendum certainly doesn't preserve anything. The initiative doesn't seem to really preserve anything other than restrict hilltop development in a limited capacity. On the other hand, Ordinance 1962 preserves the land with easements, but that is at risk due to the referendum.
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Dec 22, 2007 at 12:28 pm
Just another comment on the initiative, if you read it, you'll notice that it offers no protections for the environment.
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Dec 22, 2007 at 6:17 pm
It was written above:
"My guess is that the number of signatures collected for this referendum are much more than collected for the first Kottinger Hills Referendum, the Merritt Property Referendum, and the Ponderosa Referendum. I would also speculate that the number of signatures collected here in 30 days are more then collected in 6 months for all citizen initiatives in Pleasanton (going backwards that would be: Build our Sports Park, Save the Bernal Property Park, Save our Pleasanton Ridgelines, and probably more)."
The poster is being disingenous to the present action charging that the petition mis-led the signers of the petition through both a fatal omission and additionally mis-representations (some people call them lies). No such charges occurred regarding the examples that are cited. If there were such charges, they apparently did not sustain. So, perhaps it is premature to proudly beat one's chest about the 5200 signatures as representing the will of the informed voter. Furthermore, the signatures still need to be successfully validated by the registrar of voters. When this occurs, it is likely the number will decrease, but can still certify if it meets the minimum required. Clearly, such a declaration of democracy having been accomplished is a bit premature, to say the least. E.g., "That is what democracy is all about." Appealing to judicial review to protect against factualism is also "what democracy is all about".
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Dairy giant Fonterra says its new bottle will protect milk from light and keep it fresher and tasting better for longer.
The triple-layer bottle technology developed over three years was the first packaging of its kind for fresh milk and cream, and was a "game changer" for the dairy industry, said Fonterra managing director of brands Peter McClure at the launch in Auckland yesterday.
"This is absolutely without a doubt Fonterra's biggest innovation yet."
The 100 per cent light-proof bottle consists of white, black and white layers, made of the same recyclable material as existing plastic bottles.
Taste and freshness were the biggest drivers of consumers' milk choice and research showed many used the "sniff test" to check milk was still fresh before the expiry date.
Research showed about 7 per cent of all fresh milk was thrown out "because people think it smells off", said Fonterra group marketing manager of brands Craig Irwin.
Packaging such as tetra cartons and white see-through bottles allowed between 7 and 25 per cent of light through, he said.
Milk started spoiling as soon as it was exposed to light. The difference could be detected six minutes after it was exposed to sunlight and in two hours in fluorescent light.
As soon as milk was exposed to light it started to break down and produce free radicals, a process which started before it reached consumers' fridges.
Said Mr McClure: "Light damage is a process that can't be reversed and once started does not stop impacting its taste. This triple-layer protection will stop this happening."
Anchor innovations manager Olaf Van Daalen said milk's reaction to light did not happen in the new bottles "because it never sees the light and the milk retains its shelf life". Consumers could expect the product to taste as good at the end of its 15-day shelf life as on day one, he said.
While the new packaging cost more than existing bottles to produce, consumers would not pay more.
Feedback on the product had been positive, with baristas saying the milk was easier to texture and stretch when it was very fresh, and it had a better taste.
Mr McClure said it was hoped the development would encourage Kiwis to drink more milk, as figures showed consumption had dropped.
New Zealanders drink on average 1.8 litres of milk each per week.
TV ads start on Sunday for the light-proof bottles, which will be on sale from April 8.
Fine but environment comes first
Auckland barista Warren Horn makes around 300 coffees a day at ME Cafe and says milk quality is important.
"I'm looking for good textures and [foam] that holds its form once I'm finished. There's freshness but texture of the milk is also important," he said.
He tested the new blue top Anchor milk in the light-proof bottle and found it "fine" to work with.
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Regular coffee drinker Steve Haddock, 45, preferred Anchor in his coffee but Meadowfresh on its own.
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Shares of chip equipment maker ASML Holding N.V. (ASML) today closed down 63 cents, or 0.9%, at $71, after RBC Capital's Mahesh Sanganeria cut his rating on the stock to Underperform from market Perform, and cut his price target to $52 from $59, writing that the "extreme ultraviolet," or EUV, technology on which the company is banking is "several years out" in terms of deployment at chip makers, and may see only limited use.
Share of the lithography market may actually pass to competitor Nikon (NINOY), Sanganeria thinks, as chip makers find alternative means reaching the next reductions in feature sizes, through things such as double-patterning:
Absent EUV, we believe the current stock price discounts inflection in earnings driven by rising Litho intensity from Litho-Etch-Litho-Etch (LELE) Multiple Patterning (MP) which is overly optimistic, in our opinion. We expect the industry to move to increasing adoption of Self-Aligned-Double-Patterning (SADP), new materials and structures which will have an offsetting impact.
Nikon is likely "shipping close to 10 (7 immersion and 3 dry) scanner to Intel (INTC) for 14nm technology ramp whereas ASML is shipping primarily to [Taiwan Semiconductor (TSM)] TSMC," writes Sanganeria.
Sanganeria explains that while most of the industry produces chips at 28 nanometers, and Intel is moving to 14 nanometers in its factories, companies may not use EUV, if at all, until they start semiconductor production requiring 7-nanometer dimensions:
However, NXE3300 is not expected to meet Half-Pitch (HP) requirements for this node due to limited Numerical Aperture (NA) using Single Exposure (SE) as seen in Exhibit 1. Multiple patterning using EUV might prove to be exorbitantly expensive even if it were to meet exacting requirements of overlay and Line Edge Roughness (LER). We remain concerned that progress on EUV might continue to significantly lag accelerating requirements. We would like to note that Common Platform Alliance (IBM, Samsung and GlobalFoundries) have announced their intension to investigate EUV only at 7nm and beyond. Intel has indicated interest in using EUV at 7nm; however, we do not expect EUV to be production ready to intercept Intel's 7nm timeline.
Moreover, despite billions invested in ASML last year by Intel and Taiwan Semi to help fund EUV, nevertheless, "we expect EUV expenses to weigh on earnings." For that reason, Sanganeria doesn't see ASML approaching prior peak earnings of €3.41 (back in 2011) anytime soon. He modesl ASML making €2 per share in net profit this year.


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Nazis, hippies, social studies teachers, overpriced classic.
So that's the history of the original Volkswagen Beetle. All the rest is just detail.
It is generally not known that earlier Beetles helped teach their drivers of the need to drive economically.
My first experience with a Beetle was as a boy reporter on a now defunct provincial paper. Being consumers of budget rather than generators of revenue, like the sales staff, the reporters' car was an aged 1961 Beetle, the last model year without a fuel gauge.
The first Beetles had arrived in New Zealand in 1954, costing a then not-inexpensive $750. Why Volkswagen chose not to fit a gauge
The engine was in the rear of the car (above). The final Beetle was built in Mexico, on July 30, 2003.
except as an optional extra (about $12 back in the day) eludes me, but its absence made us economical drivers. In case the tank ran dry, a can of petrol was stashed in the nose boot and thus really good for adding an explosion to a head-on smash. When I inevitably ran out, on the way back from a night council meeting, the can was ... empty.
We had to tell the chief reporter how far we'd gone and he'd run a tally. When collecting the keys, you'd ask how much he thought was in the tank and hoped he was right. Still, it was a fun car to drive when you knew the tank was full.
In those days, it seemed quite "sporty", despite the basically dangerous swing-axle rear suspension and the engine mounted behind the suspension in the same manner as the American Chevrolet Corvair.
On the other hand, the engine aft-of-axle configuration was good enough for Porsche whose company was responsible for the Beetle when Hitler decided his country should have a people's car.
With all that weight at the drive wheels, the Beetle gained a reputation for traction in snow and other slushy surfaces. This was when front-wheel-drive cars were few.
Volkswagen America, whose agency created some of the world's best car advertising, seized on this and produced a memorable TV and print campaign that asked how the man who drives the snow plough gets to the plough. The answer, naturally, was in a Beetle.
Working in Calgary, deep in the Canadian prairies, I covered a story where a snow plough had gone over a bank and had to be rescued by another snow plough. The photographer's car refused to start so the rescue-plough driver towed us back to base, parked his big rig and went home. In a Beetle.
A notable Beetle spin-off was the now coveted Karmann Ghia, built from 1955 to 1974 first as a coupe, then also as a convertible. It didn't perform any better than a Beetle but looked $100,000 then, a million dollars these days.
A most interesting official Beetle spin-off became popular in the US. The Type 181 was a modern version of the World War II Kubelwagen utility vehicle, sort of a German Jeep. Built on a microbus chassis with Beetle mechanicals and meant as a Euro military light patrol vehicle, the 181 four-door soft-top provided heaps of fun in civilian guise if slightly impractical fun. Well, seriously impractical. Perhaps because its uses really were limited, the 181 didn't last long on the civilian market and examples are now sought after.
A shortened version of the Beetle's chassis provided a basis for the once popular dune buggy, or beach buggy as they were known here. With a light fibreglass body, wide tyres and rear-biased weight distribution, buggies were great performers on the beach and made useful fine-weather runabouts.
The Beetle also gave the world affordable racing with the Formula Vee, a single seater based on Beetle parts and a tube frame with a fibreglass or carbon fibre body.
Who'd have thought that, in 1933 when an emissary from Hitler told Ferdinand Porsche to develop an economical people's car that could carry two adults and three children at 100km/h he'd win the thanks of not only the masses, but beach bums, car racers and snow plough drivers around the world?
The final Beetle was built in Mexico, on July 30, 2003 - 65 years after its original launch. Named El Rey, Spanish for "the King" and the name of a Mexican song, it went directly to the Volkswagen museum in Wolfsburg, Germany.
With more than 21 million made, more than 26,000 of them assembled at Otahuhu, the Beetle remains the longest-running and most-manufactured car of a single design platform.
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Original post made by Palo Alto resident, Leland Manor/Garland Drive, on Sep 14, 2006
Last night I met my husband in an expensive restaraunt on University Avenue for a celebratory dinner. I parked in the garage on Bryant Street and, when I walked to the corner, found it inhabited by a group of 4-5 homeless people in various stages of inebriation. Walking along the street, I noticed that the sidewalks were dirty, and the entire area looked shabby and neglected. After finishing dinner at about 9:00 PM, my husband walked me back to the garage just in time to witness a woman from the same group on the corner step into a vestible, pull down her pants and urinate right in front of us. Not the ending I had envisioned for my evening and not an experience that makes returning to University Avenue, especially when there are so many attractive alternatives, one that I will consider again for a long time.
So, how about enforcing local ordinances against loitering and public intoxication/urination/defecation? How about washing down sidewalks and generally sprucing up downtown? How about installing portable rest-rooms? And what about increasing police presence so parking in a garage and walking down the street doesn't feel so ominous?
Comments (25)
a resident of Community Center
on Sep 14, 2006 at 9:34 am
The problem you describe is wide spread throughout the city
in different forms.
Univesity Ave. is just a tentacle. Visit Eleanor Pardee Park or Rinconada park. It is fuuuulll of people from out of town.
If I have to celeberate my child's birthday I pick mt. view
park or a menlo park park.
Another example:
I wanted to rent some space in cubberly. Guess what it is always
booked for some thing or the other. There are almost no slots
for residents. We call it a "community" facility but the community
cannot rent the place - no available to locals - if you are
a business you can rent the place for 1 year. Holy CRAP.
Another example:
In summer getting the play Tennis is a problem. You cannot
go to your neighborhood tennis court and play - even if
you are willing to put yourself of the waiting slot.
Here is why: Folks from out of town come in large groups
to play tennis. everyone of them puts themselves on the waiting
slot. residents dont get a slot. Holy CRAP.
My suggestion: Make Frank Benest the city manager "Jesus Christ"
This city is run like a unwashed pig.
a resident of University South
on Sep 14, 2006 at 10:59 am
It is only going to get worse when the new homeless shelter opens up! Do cities like Mt. View and Sunnyvale have the same problems?
a resident of Downtown North
on Sep 14, 2006 at 12:33 pm
RE: the new homeless shelter a/k/a the Opportunity Center. What happens to all the 'unhoused" after 5:00 p.m. when the day shelter closes? Where do they go? Town and Country, Paly, the Sheraton/Hyatt, the PA Clinic or do they cross in droves across dangerous Alma?? There is no sidewalk on the west sid to go to the east side of RR tracks. And what happens in the morning? I'll give it one month before some inebriated unhoused client gets hit on Alma Street going to the Opportunity Center from downtown. The Op Center may be a humanitarian idea - to which other areas gave generously (NIMBY), but it is in the wrong place.
a resident of Fairmeadow
on Sep 14, 2006 at 1:54 pm
Yes, we have made the homeless very welcome and comfortable, that's the Palo Alto way. Meanwhile we chase the good retail stores out of town because Palo Alto is too exclusive to have big box stores. Meanwhile, like many Palo Altans I shop and eat in Mountain View or Menlo Park, its cleaner, nicer and a lot more welcoming.
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 14, 2006 at 4:11 pm
There is another string on this site around all the homeless people and how, fof the most part, it ruins Palo Alto.
I wonder how many of the City Council members read these posts and how they feel about this issue that seems to only get bigger every year.
I hate going to downtown Palo Alto too, the place is dirty, stinks, and I'm sick of people trying to get change from me.
I recently saw Micahel Jordon on TV...he summed it (homeless people) up best when he said something like this...If a homeless person can say "Can you spare some change", they can easily say "welcome to McDonalds, can I take your order".
Stop building homeless shelters, stop giving your change to these people...we need to crack down and we need to do it now!
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 14, 2006 at 4:11 pm
There is another string on this site around all the homeless people and how, for the most part, it ruins Palo Alto.
I wonder how many of the City Council members read these posts and how they feel about this issue that seems to only get bigger every year.
I hate going to downtown Palo Alto too, the place is dirty, stinks, and I'm sick of people trying to get change from me.
I recently saw Micahel Jordon on TV...he summed it (homeless people) up best when he said something like this...If a homeless person can say "Can you spare some change", they can easily say "welcome to McDonalds, can I take your order".
Stop building homeless shelters, stop giving your change to these people...we need to crack down and we need to do it now!
a resident of Fairmeadow
on Sep 14, 2006 at 4:40 pm
Wow, my fellow Palo Altans. Have some compassion for the unfortunate among us. You think you or yours would never be in this position. But that's not true. Mental problems, job loss, or tragedy can bring people down. You may need compassion and help some day yourself.
a resident of Professorville
on Sep 14, 2006 at 5:06 pm
I say be a part of the answer, don't just complain about it. What have you personally done to try to effect change? If you find that the state of the city is unexceptable to you in any way - get involved. Attend commission meetings - make it a point to seek out your City Council and share with them your thoughts and ideas. Think creatively about how WE as a community can help solve the myriad of problems we deal with each day. Folks, the homeless are here and they are part of our community even if they don't have a shelter at night. The Opportunity Center is an attempt to actively address the issue because the "not in my backyard" philosphy does not apply here - they are in our backyard and they are here for the duration. Let's put our energy towards helping them get back on their feet which will improve their quality of life right along with the rest of Palo Alto.
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Sep 14, 2006 at 7:22 pm
A response to Rebecca: it's naive and pollyanna-ish sentiments like yours that have contributed to Palo Alto becoming the destination of choice of so many homeless people. This is a huge and largely intractable problem that can overtax the patience and resources of a more tolerant community, while making all the surroundng communities immune to the increasing urban decay and offensive behavior we're supposed to tolerate.
a resident of Community Center
on Sep 14, 2006 at 9:17 pm
Have some compassion for the RESIDENTS/TAX PAYERS OF PALO ALTO !!!
a resident of University South
on Sep 14, 2006 at 10:17 pm
I have lived in Palo Alto for 26 years. Do you want to know how bad the homeless problem has become? Palo Alto Fire Dept. and Police response to so many calls involving the homeless, that they know most of them by their first name! Most of the 911 calls are for sleeping in public places, fights and loitering. Don't believe me- just ask the Police and Fire Dept. some time. What a waste of resources!
a resident of Ventura
on Sep 15, 2006 at 1:53 am
Install surveillance cameras. They work!
Why aren't we doing this?
If people know they're being watched, they will be less inclined to break certain laws, and if they do, there's a better chance of apprehending them after the fact.
a resident of Professorville
on Sep 15, 2006 at 6:30 am
Install cameras to view people pee-ing. PRIVACY LAWS????
You could know the length of ....
a resident of Professorville
on Sep 15, 2006 at 8:41 am
Admittedly I tend to be a glass half-full type person but don't mistake that for naivety. What I respectfully request is for the community to ACT not just complain. If you have ideas on how to address the issue then work towards making them happen. Whatever our personal beliefs or politics the state of the City will not change unless we as individuals take ACTION.
a resident of another community
on Sep 15, 2006 at 11:19 am
We moved to Palo Alto in 1964. It was a very nice college town. University Avenue was clean, sidewalks were clean.
What has happened to Palo Alto is disgusting.
I don't live in Palo Alto now, but I work there. I shop in Los Altos or Menlo Park or Mountain View because walking down University Avenue is a very unpleasant, smelly and scary experience.
a resident of Ventura
on Sep 15, 2006 at 12:35 pm
I have to laugh when I hear people scream "privacy laws" when mention is made of installing security cameras to prevent or deter unseemly and/or criminal behavior.
What does someone who obeys the very simple laws and follows basic community standards have to worry about? What's the fuss?
a resident of Mountain View
on Sep 15, 2006 at 1:11 pm
I have just one tidbit of information. I haven't seen him lately, but the guy who regularly pan-handles outside Whole Foods on Homer comes to town daily on the Dumbarton Express from the East Bay. A woman that I work with told me this because she takes the DE everyday and sees him on it.
a resident of Community Center
on Sep 15, 2006 at 5:46 pm
I dont seem to understand your argument about "we should act and not complain". Please be specific as to what should we do. The problem of "pee" on university is WELL KNOWN to all and the CITY.
Do you suggest we as residents bring/pour buckets of water to clean up the mess. Should we howl and people while they are in the act of urinating.
a resident of Evergreen Park
on Sep 15, 2006 at 11:21 pm
AGNEW should have never been closed...they let the truly needy and the mentally challenged people fin for themselves on the streets after closing the facility...
There are far too many homeless veterans on the streets of Palo Alto who have needs to be addressed...many are suffering from the military service they had served in....many have severe drinking problems due to that patrotic duty they had endured..........Many have teeth that are rotting out of their mouths....due to neglect, not being able to get proper medical and dental help....VERY SAD...
RE: the previous comment made about working at MeDonald's.........HOW CAN YOU WORK AT MCDONALD'S PRESENTING YOURSELF WITH YOUR TEETH ROTTING OUT OF YOUR MOUTH? .........
Possibly 9 out of 10 persons living the homeless life have severe mental problems..most should be on medication and or in therape.
The government needs to change it's practice and help these people get off the streets...give them a place to urinate instead of making a public spectical out of themselves.
We not only needed a community place for them to gather, we need to be able to direct them to safety where they can become part of the community in a positive way. THAT involves more than merely turning ones nose up in the air..more than a deaf ear to the situation. More than shriking "disgusting" or " I'll just go to Menlo Park or Mountain View....guess what? They have homeless people there, too.
Time to put heads together and try to aleviate homeless and drunkness in our community. We in Palo Alto have been open to being the first.....but we need more than just one lone voice out here...
Please give it some SERIOUS thought and take suggestions to the City, County and State people who have the power to help out.
You never know, someday your own son or daughter may need the help when you are gone..............
a resident of Ventura
on Sep 16, 2006 at 3:18 am
What's amusing here is that a large part of the problem that we encounter from people relieving themselves in public comes from customers of many of the chic and not-so-chic clubs in twn that close at 2:00AM. I understand it's pretty well documented that some of these people find thier way to doorways and bushes to "do their business".
So, please, let's not hang all this on the homeless. There, but for the grace of god go any one of us.
a resident of Green Acres
on Sep 16, 2006 at 10:40 am
So are you suggesting the "chic and not-so-chic" placees
in touwn don't have restrooms ????
You kid me NOT !!
a resident of Ventura
on Sep 16, 2006 at 4:09 pm
JRF, No, I'm not kidding - settle down. :)
I talking about *after* those places close. Patrons from those bars often find a way to "relieve themselves" on the way to their car, or on walking to wherever their destination is.
If you don't believe me, go ask the police. It's a commonly known fact that this is the case downtown, and it was also a problem on California Ave. when the Edge was there.
It's not just a homeless problem.
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 16, 2006 at 8:38 pm
I live in Palo Alto but do most of my shopping in Mountain View - I am not especially attracted to downtown P.A. and one issue is the dirt and the homeless. I'm sure there is word of mouth and that more homeless gravitate to certain cities, like P.A. - I see more here than in other local cities.
Another example is there are major homeless issues over on crowded Oahu, with people living in awful situations, taking over beach parks, and from what I've read, these aren't necessarily local people down on their luck, but people who've been attracted to the pleasant climate and casual environment. Sure, this is sad. The newspapers have covered how the politicans and local residents are trying to grapple with this challenge - the locals say now it's unsafe to go to the beach parks as there are health and safety issues!
I think there sometimes can be an element of danger related to homeless out on the streets with mental illness, criminal background, etc. Professionals (police/medical/mental health) should be assisting these people not the general public who find themselves facing pandhandlers. I was threated some years ago on California Ave. by a tall, healthy, aggressive panhandler when I was out with my young daughter (therefore, in a vulnerable situation) in broad daylight, and I didn't appreciate it. This was worse than I've seen in several big cities, by the way. I don't know if this person was homeless, but he was working the streets, so to speak.
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Sep 20, 2006 at 5:45 pm
There are lots of problems concerning homeless people, but what are we going to do about them? They have to go somewhere. for homeless people with temporary issues, there are options. But what about those people whom are insane beyond becoming functional? who's going to pay for therapy, medication, and housing? Are there any public mental health institutes near here where these people can go?
I visit downtown palo alto quite often, as late as 11:00. The homeless people are, for the most part, feel like more of an annoyance then a threat to me.
a resident of Professorville
on Nov 11, 2006 at 5:12 pm
There is a certain irony in the fact that as our community has simultaneously become an enclave for both the richest and the poorest among us. Just 30 years ago—a time when we had a much more equal distribution of income—there was scarcely an unhoused person in the whole of the town.
We can address the symptoms of homelessness by hosing down University and turning it into a mini police state—moving problem either up or down the Embarcadero—or we can begin to build a society that insures the successful participation of all its participants.
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IberiaBank extended Crane Point a $300,000 line of credit in late 2011 when Jeffrey Smith, who chairs the Land and Sea Trust Board, was a senior vice president at the company's Marathon branch. Smith has since moved over to First State Bank in Marathon.
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Skeptics, including David Rice, Marathon's representative on the Monroe County Commission, doubt that assumption.
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But others, including the leadership of the Greater Marathon Chamber of Commerce, are less circumspect. Chamber CEO Daniel Samess said Crane Point spoke with existing zip line facilities in order to compile their estimates.
"I think they are using good, real-world data to come up with their numbers," he said.
At the March 20 meeting, Land and Sea Trust Board members met with zip line opponents Joan Borel, Joyce Newman and Deb Curley. Attendees on both sides say the meeting was amicable, even if it didn't fundamentally change the discussion.
"Their attitude is that they have put a lot into the zip line and they believe it is still viable," Borel, a founding member of the trust, said of the current board members. "But they have also expressed an openness to other alternatives."
Borel said among the alternatives she, Newman and Curley proposed was the formation of a partnership between the Land and Sea Trust and another local nonprofit, such as the Turtle Hospital or the Pigeon Key Foundation. Other ideas included hosting children's environmental camps, opening up Crane Point to high-end camping and leasing a portion of the site as a venue for Florida International University or Florida Keys Community College.
The proposal that Borel is most enthusiastic about, however, would bring the County Commission into the equation. She'd like the commission to support the acquisition of Crane Point's natural areas by the Monroe County Land Authority, which, among other tasks, is charged with protecting native Keys habitat.
Under Borel's concept, the Land and Sea Trust would still operate the visitor facilities at Crane Point using an endowment set aside with funds from the land authority's purchase of the remainder of the site.
Borel's idea has the ear of Rice.
"It's among the list of things that could happen," said Rice, who added that overall he hasn't heard many viable ideas from those who oppose the zip line. "The last thing I want to see is that land lost somehow."
But Rice also said that a Land Authority purchase of the Crane Point site would be only a short-term fix unless the Land and Sea Trust could find a way to break even on the operational end.
A secondary option, he said, would be for the county to purchase the property outright and operate it through the regional park system using property tax dollars.
But for now, Rice said, such talk is moot, since Crane Point management isn't looking at such options.
"We can't buy it because they aren't selling it," he said.
Indeed, said Mapes, the idea of betting the future of Crane Point on the political mechanisms of the County Commission is a risk he's not ready to take. As for the other ideas that were presented on March 20, he said they've all previously been considered, but they won't work financially
Mapes said he was once skeptical of the zip line concept. But after four years of study, and with the $727,000 grant secured, he's now convinced it will be a success.
"The consensus after all of that vetting process is that everyone on the board is very much behind the eco-canopy tour," he said.


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May 10, 2010 at 12:53 am #1258759
Hi all,
I'm thru-hiking the PCT northbound starting around May 21st this year. I'm going solo and anticipate taking four months to get to Canada. My gear list can be found here
Any comments/critiques are appreciated.
Dave aka CometMay 10, 2010 at 2:40 am #1608246
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@dirk9827Locale: Pacific Northwest
Comet –
Nice list, well thought out. This year the PCT is playing out quite a bit differently than in 2009, mainly in the sense that snow is taking longer to melt out this year, for what it's worth. So keep in mind my comments reflect experiences from last season.
First, starting on May 21st, you will be hitting Southern California as things typically begin to really heat up. I would suggest that you carry more than the ~3.3 liters of capacity. There are stretches approaching 15-20 miles in Southern California where there was not any water available along the trail. The guidebooks you are using do point those out. At the most, I believe I had 5 liter capacity, although I seldom carried more than four.
On your headlamp, and I know I've mentioned this so many times that people are sick of hearing it – the eLite is a terrific headlamp for camp. Wonderful. But in my experience, it is at best a mediocre headlamp for night hiking. I tried, but ended up supplementing it with a much more able headlamp. Chances are that you will elect to hike at night, either to escape the heat of the day or perhaps you will need to get in the miles to make a post office before the weekend. I found that with the eLite the hiking was slower and much more exhausting because it had such limited range and required greater concentration on finding the trail.
I haven't met a lot of people who liked using the Go Lite umbrella. There were several who carried them, but the general complaint was the performance under breezy conditions. It was almost always hot and windy in So Cal. Something to consider, but I would carry a wide-brimmed hat for at least Southern California. YMMV.
The BearVault 450 is obviously limited in its capacity. What is your resupply strategy in the Sierra?(FYI – I was told last year that the hiker box (really drums) at the Muir Trail Ranch were fantastic – seems a lot of JMTers leave a ton of food behind.) Anyhow, it's around 90 miles between Kennedy Meadows to Kearsarge Pass, which leads to the towns of Independence and Bishop (you need to hitchhike in). Also, if you are going to climb Whitney (which I would recommend heartily), that is going to take a good portion of one day in this stretch. Something to think about.
A lot of people wore just shorts in SoCal. But when it is hot and sunny, you are going to go through more sunscreen than with pants. Just something to consider – plus pants do a better job protecting against a lot of desert plants. I had never hiked with pants (other than rain pants in my life) up to that point, always opting for shorts. I was glad to have made the switch.
If I had to do it again, I would probably have brought some type of gaiters with me to keep rocks and dirt out of my shoes in SoCal. The rocks and dust filled my shoes, which breathed well but as a result, also took in a fair amount of debris. My feet swelled pretty good in the heat, and by the time I reached Big Bear I swapped out my size 9.5 shoes for size 11.
The iPhone did not get good reception in many stretches of the PCT – this is more of a function of the network than the phone. I didn't use an iPhone but friends did. The AT&T coverage wasn't that good in many areas.
Finally, if you finish by, say, Oct 1 you will average just about 20 miles per day. This does not take into account any zero days or generally lower mileage days in the Sierra (certainly, I'd recommend enjoying the Sierra and not rushing through it like a bat out of hell – another reason to maybe carry a larger bear canister).
Best of luck to you! Enjoy the trail.
DirkMay 10, 2010 at 3:18 pm #1608438
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@minerLocale: SoCAL
You have both a balaclava and a warm hat listed. Seems redundant. I only wore a Balaclava last year and had no trouble staying warm; just roll it up on itself when you don't need your face covered.. I have a question about your clothing layers. Can you be warm with in while its snowing or have freezing rain? People had cold and snowly weather from early to mid June last year in the Sierra and snow in Washington at different times in Sept. Just 2 weeks ago, hikers were freezing in SoCal from lack of layers as it stormed. Many years, we get a snow storm in the SoCal mountains in late May. I'm only saying this since I see nothing for your lower half except wind pants. I carried lightweight thermals in places. You could get by with a lighterweight down jacket as the one you have will be too hot for anything other then use in camp. I used a MontBell down jacket that weighed ~6oz that made a very nice pillow so I carried it the whole way. I actually preferred hiking in long pants and long sleeves in SoCal to deal with the sun.
I briefly used a GoLite Chrome Dome umbrella. It did make it cooler on the few days that I had really hot temperatures. However, the issue of wind is a problem. I sent it home since most of the time I had unusually cool weather. If you ditch it, you may want to get a wide brim hat instead of the visor for SoCal.
Add more water capacity for SoCal. I often carried 4.5L last year (once carried 6L and needed it) but had cooler temps then normal throughout SoCal. You can't count on Water Caches being full as I saw some that were empty or almost empty last year.
When I passed through, Muir Trail Ranch had almost nothing in the hiker boxes and met some hikers who had been counting on it who were very hungry. Don't count on a hiker box for resupply in the Sierras as you don't know who is hiking in front of you.
I hiked with a guy with an IPhone. He was always plugging it in everywhere there was an outlet at a store/resturant to keep it charged. But for the most part, it worked out well for him.
I didn't see a compass. I used mine a few times when I wasn't sure which way to go (some junctions weren't labeled which was the PCT) and it helped point me to the right snow covered pass in the Sierra. I know a few people who tried to climb the wrong pass. Mine weighed 0.8 oz and had a mirror which I considered multi-use.
You have the GoLite Virga jacket and the Gatewood cape? Doesn't that defeat the point of using a tarp poncho since its suppose to be rain gear and a shelter? You have a wind jacket after all.May 10, 2010 at 5:09 pm #1608476
Scott SMember
@sschloss1Locale: New England
I think the other members of the class of '09 covered the big things. Here are a few more thoughts:
You'll want DEET for the Sierras, Northern Cal., and Oregon.
I'd also suggest carrying your insulated jacket from the border.
I'd suggest getting a ground reflector of some sort for your stove. There are lots of places where the ground is nothing but dry duff. I have a supercat, too, and I often had to cook right on the trail because it was the only place around clear of flammable stuff.
I don't think you need the bear bag or the cord. In the Sierras, you have to use the canister. Everywhere else, you can safely sleep with your food. I've heard reports of mouse problems in Washington, but no one I was hiking with had any problems.
Have a blast! It's a great trail.May 11, 2010 at 12:49 am #1608610
Thank you for the great responses guys. I appreciate all of the advice and comments!
-My gear list is misleading, in SoCal I will have capacity for just over 6L of water (2 of each size platy).
-Good idea re: headlamp. You sold me on taking my Tikka XP
for at least the first stretch where I am most likely to night hike.
-I do plan on climbing Whitney and neglected to factor in the extra food needed. Also, I plan to do the 9 mile hike and hitch into Lone Pine. Do most people skip Lone Pine?
-I will consider wearing my REI Sahara convertible pants and gaiters for at least the Southern section, especially since Sean also mentioned pants.
-I didn't mean to have both hat and balaclava for SoCal, but I sleep cold when my body fat drops on long trips so WAS going to wear both in an attempt to preserve heat. I can always get the hat mailed if I'm cold though.
-Solid advice, if I send the umbrella home early, I'll get my Tilly hat sent out to help create some personal shade.
-I updated the gear list comments on my watch as it does include a compass.
-Good call out on the Gatewood Cape/rain jacket redundancy. My experience with the GC as raingear in wind is not the greatest. I have both pieces listed in the Sierra because I was afraid of being cold and wet at the same time. You're right though, probably just a waste of 8 ounces.
-Yup, forgot to but the bug repellent on the list. I'll get it weighed and put on.
-I'm considering the suggestion re: insulated jacket from the start.
-Great idea re: reflector under the stove.
-Good to know that I won't need to be OCD about hanging my food on this trail.
Thanks again guys. Can't wait to see what adventures unfold along the way!
CometMay 21, 2010 at 10:10 am #1612178
Thanks again to all. I'm heading to the border tomorrow to begin walking north. Looks like most of the hardcore snow will have subsided by the time I reach it. Here goes nothing…
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