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Sony CEO you're dumb
Re: Sony CEO you're dumb
Only in America Xbox 360 is no.1 nearly every country ps3 and Wii sell more then Xbox. Only in the past month Japan had the vita as no.1 sold console and in UK it was the ps3 super slim.
Plus to add to that Sony does not own superbot ent they only rent the studio from Sony.
'psasbr is a great game'
that is an opinion... When you compare it to other exclusives this is the weakest link
Re: Sony CEO you're dumb[ Edited ]
Layoffs after a game release is common practice, that doesn't make it easier for those who lose their jobs but it's a part of the career cycle. You don't need 50+ people to maintain a game after it's finished and released.
That's the equivalent of your local retail store keeping the extra staff hired for Black Friday/Christmas around until July, they may be talented but the extra help isn't needed at the moment, and the higher-ups just see it as burning money when they look at the expense reports. It's a tough life.
Re: Sony CEO you're dumb[ Edited ]
This is common, and actually something for those pursuing a career in the gaming industry to consider. It's a very rewarding industry, but also a very volatile one which may keep many away in favour of a more secure career.
For those of you out there who are in college, or will be going to college, aspiring to break into this industry... think of it more like working on contract from job to job and not so much full time.
My friend and I are both 38, and graduated with 3d animation/ electronic graphics degrees. It took him 10 years of constantly moving around the country, chasing game job to game job, finish a project, either let go or the company dissolved, and onto the next one. He's been at the current co. for about a year now. The longest so far. I decided to do side freelance work for some game co. but full time is in marketing.
I love the gaming industry, but you guys gotta realize, is very very turbulent. Simply saying some CEO is dumb for not hiring more, in no way, reflects how the industry operates.
Oh, and according to the latest numbers. it does look as though the ps3 had pulled ahead of the 360 globally.
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Oh, and according to the latest numbers. it does look as though the ps3 had pulled ahead of the 360 globally.
I like to make PSASBR move-sets. Here's a few:
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Hey guys, new to the board, spend most of my time on here so i fgured i'd post.Really thinking hard about getting the new m56, wanted some of your opinions and some opinions on infinti owners and how reliable they can be, etc ...all input is appreciated
Infiniti just gets better and better, and this is BY FAR the best car they've put out so far. Get it!BTW, welcome to the forums!
______________________________Acura's motor got upstaged by Ford.And now that Buick is owned by Ford, I think it's safe to say that the Buick has a better motor than the TL?
Dude go for it. If you can afford one...kudos and more power to you. I loved the old M and the new one is pretty nice too. I haven't seen it in person obviously to judge against current gen but from pictures and specs it looks like a winner to me.
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yeah im still waiting to see it in person as well. Pictures look real good, also debating on the new e-class ... its kind of a tough decision
Yeah it looks good. The BMW 5-series now looks kind of boring if a little generic now: The M56s engine is just too monsterous and makes too much horsepower.(Its wierd cause I like that). It seems as like Infiniti wants to steal some Porsche Panamera sales because of the similar specs.Pics:
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i think im gonna wait a couple months after it actually comes out, and see all the reviews and stuff. im also anticipating the new lexus gs model, should be coming soon. Plan on getting a new car by the end of this year ... so im looking at alot of other models, but i think im sold on the infiniti
Go for it if you like it. I'm not sure on it yet as I need to see it in the flesh but I keep going back and forth on the styling. The engine sounds like a nice addition, though.
I've seen it in person, I think it's better looking than everything in the class... including the Jag XF!
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If I could get this car mmmmmmm, so sweet. Everything about it in my eyes is just awesome. And like TypeSh said, I think it really is best in class aesthetically, edging out the XF which I think is also amazing looking.
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I want one too!
How is 420 too much? That sounds just about right to me. The CTS-V will still smoke it.
Option up for the 2011 M56 and in addition to the 420-hp, direct injected 5.6-liter V8, the Premium Package comes standard, including the eight-inch VGA touch screen with navigation, Bose 10-speaker audio system, 9.3-gig Music Box hard drive, streaming Bluetooth audio, heated and cooled front seats and heated steering wheel. All told, the M56 comes in at $57,550 for the rear-wheel drive model and $60,050 for the M56x with all-wheel drive. That's a sizable bump over the outgoing M45, but considering all the additional kit that comes with the new V8 model, it's a justifiable increase and certainly in line with the competition. Make the jump for the full break down, including options pricing and detailed descriptions.LinkSo, it's pretty much in the same price range with the other V8 equipped cars in this class.
The Infiniti M56 is cool but I think the M56s is the perfect combination for look and Performance! You could go with the M56 Sport and modify the look with a Black on Black apprearance, like this guy did.Youtube video of M56 Black on Black Looks pretty cool to me and I like the music choice! X
If it's all about the car, then wouldn't it make sense to get the best car?InfinitiLuxuryCars.wordpress.com or BeavertonInfiniti.com
Sneb1:Hey guys, new to the board, spend most of my time on here so i fgured i'd post.Really thinking hard about getting the new m56, wanted some of your opinions and some opinions on infinti owners and how reliable they can be, etc ...all input is appreciated Infinity is absolutley the best Japanese Lux brand sold in the US. My only issue with them is that, while I love their design, it worries me that the M looks too much like the G. I hope they can differentiate their designs so that they don't look too "shared".
I wonder if he actually bought it. This thread is old...Anyway, the S has stiff suspension from what I've read. A non-S would probably make more sense in a car this big.


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i did actualtest paper and i found their answer rather suspicous.
Doug is conducting a port scan of a target network. He knows that his client target network
has a web server and that there is a mail server which is up and running. Dough has been sweeping the network but has not been able to elicit any response from the remote target.
Which of the following could be the most likely cause behind this lack of response? Select 4
a. UDP is filtered by a gateway
b. The packet TTL value is too low and cannot reach the target
c. The host might be down
d. The destination network might be down
e. The TCP windows size does not match
f. ICMP is filterd by a gateway
ans: A,B,C,D
i thought the answer is A,C,D,F
You have the SOA presented below in you Zone. Your secondary servers have not been able to contact your primary server to synchronise information. How long will the secondary servers attempt to conact the primary server before it considers that zone is dead and stops responding to queries?
college.edu (200302028 3600 3600 6+4800 3600)
a. 1 day
b. 1 hour
c. 1 week
d. 1 month
Answer: C
i thought the answer is 1 hour??
60sec x 60 = 3600seconds
Joe worried that network adminstrator miht detect the wiretap program by querying
the interfaces to see of they are running in promiscuous mode.
a. Block output to the console whenever the user runs ifconfig command by running screen
capture utility
b. Run the wiretap program in stealth mode from being detected by the ifconfig command
c. Repalce original ifconfig utility with the rootkit version of ifconfig hiding
Promiscuous information being displayed on the console
d. You cannor disable Promiscuous mode detection on Linux Systems.
Answer given is D, and I thought answer should be C.
I thought we can disable it by entering -> ifconfig eth0 -promisc
A following attack on web server using obstructed URL:
how to protect information systems from these attacks
A. Configure web server to deny alerts from these attacks
B. Create rules in IDS to alert on strange Unicode requests
C. Use SSL authentication on Web Servers
D. Enable Active scri[ts detection at the firewall and routers.
Answer given is B
The only reason i thought of its IDS deployed infront of the web server (DMZ segment)
what about A? can we configure the webserver to deny unicode request?
Bubba has just accessed he preferred ecommerce web site and has spotted an item that he would like to buy. Bubba considers the price a bit too steep. He looks at the source code of the webpage and decides to
save the page locally, so that he can modify the page variables. In the context of web application security,
what do you think Bubba has changes?
A. A hidden form field value.
B. A hidden price value.
C. An integer variable.
D. A page cannot be changed locally, as it is served by a web server.
Answer given is A.
I was thinking whether the answer could be D.
Even the entire page is downloaded into our PC, we changed the value locally, but it doesnt reflect in the server such via POST method...


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The Burton Coliseum will be center stage for the "Marsh Madness" basketball tournament. (Photo courtesy of Burton Complex)
Last Modified: Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:06 AM
By Warren Arceneaux / American PressBurton Coliseum will be on center stage for the next two weeks as "Marsh Madness," the Top 28 state boys and girls basketball championship tournaments, is held at Burton Coliseum.
The organizing committee that will help oversee the tournaments along with the Louisiana High School Athletic Association, held its final planning meeting Wednesday. Tournament play begins next week with the girls tournament, which will run Tuesday through Saturday. The boys tournament will be March 11-15.
Eric Zartler of the Southwest Louisiana Convention & Visitors Bureau said preparations have gone smoothly.
"The planning has gone well. The community stepped up. A lot of volunteers will be helping with this," he said. "You can't do it without all those parts coming together. Everything has come together. Now we are at the point we are ready to throw the ball up and start playing basketball."
More than 100 people volunteered to help with the tournament, exceeding Zartler's original hope of having about 70 people helping.
He said he hopes the thousands of people coming into the area for the tournament will find a reason to come back to Southwest Louisiana.
"Anytime you can bring that amount of people to your area, it can only help. It puts us on the map and lets people see what we have to offer in the area," he said.
"We are always hopeful they come back for something other than basketball. We see that all the time in other sports. They come back and go fishing, check out the Creole Nature Trail, visit our parks and museums."
Ten girls teams from Southwest Louisiana will play in the quarterfinal round of the playoffs today. Winners will qualify for the Top 28 tournament.
Posted By: Barbara Oldham On: 3/1/2014
I am so glad the Marsh Madness ( Sweet Sixteen) has returned to Lake Charles. We so enjoyed it in the past. Being at the Burton Coliseum makes t even better. I hope this can again be an arrangement to follow in future years to come. Is there a way to find out the price of admission?. Will it be by game or by day and how much?. Thank you
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2010 NFL Draft: Thoughts On The Chargers Early Direction
With the 2010 NFL Draft just a handful of days away, the San Diego Chargers are zeroing in on their approach come draft day(s). As they grade the players and arrange their board, let's take this opportunity to postulate how the early rounds will go for the Bolts.
PICK: Best defensive player available (CB, DT, DE) - If the Chargers choose to sit and wait for their pick at 28 in the first round, I think the best option here would be to select the best defensive player available as ranked on their board. Certainly the Chargers greatest draft need is running back, but that does not necessarily predicate the selection of a running back with their first choice. AJ Smith has always approached his drafts valuing running backs in the middle rounds, and he likely won't deviate too much from that philosophy.
The Chargers greatest opportunity for improvement from last year to this year would be defensively. With the departure of Jamal Williams, Antonio Cromartie, and the uncertainty surrounding Shawne Merriman's long-term future with San Diego, the Chargers may be faced with the daunting task of replacing three Pro Bowl players on defense. Not resigning Igor Olshansky has proved to be a mistake, and the Chargers still have not successfully replaced him. As much as I have been disappointed with the lack of 'want-to' in Antonio Cromartie, I didn't necessarily think it was the best decision to move him at this juncture. How is your defense any better without young, talented cornerbacks? Hopefully Antonie Cason, Nathan Vasher, and Donald Strickland will help shore up the secondary, but don't rule out a cornerback in round one. In what is increasingly becoming a passing league, teams are desperate for good cornerbacks.
PICK: Running Back - It is likely going to be in round two where the Chargers draft their primary running back of the future. The top of round two will be a fantastic place to find a legitimate workhorse running back and will provide tremendous value as well in regards to contract size. If the Chargers stay at 40, they'll likely have their pick of running backs not named CJ Spiller - Ryan Matthews, Jonathan Dwyer, Jahvid Best, Ben Tate, and Montario Hardesty could all be available there at the top of round two. While AJ Smith typically waits until the third, fourth, and fifth rounds to start targeting running backs, this year is obviously different. Running Back is the team's most obvious need so it's likely the Chargers pick one early.
PICK: Best offensive or defensive lineman available (OT, DT, DE) - The Chargers have obvious needs along their defensive line, and could also use help at offensive tackle. Current starters Marcus McNeill and Jeromey Clary are playing on one year tenders and do not have long-term deals in place, making their futures as San Diego Chargers questionable at this point. Additionally, the Chargers are very thin at offensive tackle and could use depth there. If the Chargers don't draft a running back in the first two rounds, they will have no choice but to draft one in the third round otherwise they'd be putting the offense in severe jeopardy. The third round is also a good place to find a developmental nose tackle prospect, so the Chargers could look at a Cam Thomas, Terrell Troup, or Linval Joseph here.
We've outlined how we envision the first three rounds to play out for the Chargers, what's your take on the situation. What positions do you think the Chargers will be targeting in rounds one, two, and three? Sound off in the comments section below!
April 19, 2010at 12:00 AM Posted by Rob Zepeda
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- Chris said... Apr 19, 2010, 12:15:00 AM
i think NT has to be addressed with our first pick. RB Is a big need but everyone keeps forgetting, we are a passing team!! Therefore addressing that position would be better suited with a trade so we can get BPA(OT or Def.) with our 2nd round pick and then with our 3rd rounder select a diamond in the rough RB prospect.
Personally I think the best possible thing that could happen is a Cleaveland trade
#28(chargers)= #38+#71+3rd pk(2011)
than trade
Sproles= #56(packers 2nd rd pk)
#38(T-Browns)- Terrance Cody NT(hell probably still be there)
#40- Linval Joseph- NT/DE versitile would solidify our DL
#56(T-Packers)-Toby Gearheart(RB)- hard nosed downhill runner we need
#71(T-Browns)-Joe Mcknight(RB)- explosive back Reggie Bush clone.
#91-Myron Lewis- CB/FS long lean safety with potential.
#126- Kyle Calloway- RT
#159- Donario alexander WR
#168- Colin Peek TE
- Jason said... Apr 19, 2010, 6:02:00 AM
I'd love to see the Bolts trade down and get more picks, but it seems that the draft is real deep this year and everyone else is trying to do the same thing. Assuming no trades, I agree that RB can wait till round 2 or even 3.
I'm a BIG Tide fan, but I just have a BAD feeling about Cody at the NFL level...this guy has "injury list" written all over him. If he's still around at #40, I think we can take him because of his big-time potential. Not at #28.
It's really going to come down to who falls to us at #28. There are a million different ways it could go. I think AJ takes the BPA at either CB, DL, or OL. This draft has the potential to be the most entertaining ever!
- Jason said... Apr 19, 2010, 6:12:00 AM
Much as I'd love to see us trade down for more picks, I don't think that's gonna happen because everyone else seems to be doing the same thing. Can anyone remember a draft where there seems to be so little dropoff in talent in the first 2 rounds?
I'm a BIG Tide fan, but I've got a bad feeling about Cody...he's got "injury list" written all over him. He'd be worth a shot at #40, not at #28 IMO.
I agree that RB can wait till the later rounds, I think AJ takes BPA on D or OL at #28. It's gonna be riveting because there's a million different ways the draft can go before then.
- Jason said... Apr 19, 2010, 6:13:00 AM
OOPS, sorry for the double post, didn't think the first one took.
I'm pretty much in agreement here with everyone. I'd like to see them get Dan Williams but they'd probably have to give up a ton to move up. I think Alualu would be a good 1st round pick to shore up the opposite side of the line of Castillo. Then in the 2nd get either Cam Thomas, Lindval Joseph or Troup. Then go RB in the 3rd round and if need be use a 3rd from next year to select earlier in the third. Perhaps on Tate, Dixon or Hardesty.
I think OLB is more of a need than CB this year. Jammer has atleast 2 more seasons left, Cason is ready, Hughes, Vahser and stickland are are competing for the nickel spot and maybe even a starting spot if Cason or Jammer go down or can't get the job done. Next year's CB class is much better than this years so i think we wait. OLB on the other hand is a position we won't have much time to wait for. We're banking on English coming through when we let Merriman go so we're "set" there but the other side has Phillips and he's holding down the position well but i don't think he has many seasons left and Holt and Harris are back-ups nothing more. I think it makes sense for use to draft an OLB who we believe can develop behing Phillips. So, with that said here's a little compliation of my thoughts on our direction in the draft.
1)Jared Odrick or Jerry Hughes
2)Jonothan Dwyer or Ben Tate
3)Koa Misi or Torrel Troup
4)Ed Wang or Kyle Calloway
I don't know if AJ will be taking J. Dwyer anymore? Dude, just tested positive for Speed!!
- Rob Zepeda said... Apr 19, 2010, 11:54:00 AM
Dwyer tested positive for drugs he's used all his life to help with ADD...all the teams know this and it wont affect his draft status.
Please draft a nose tackle. Please draft a nose tackle. Please draft a nose tackle.
Watching everyone run right up the middle was a nightmare. Get someone to fill that hole.
Doesn't anyone think the Chargers will no longer use a 3-4 base? You don't get rid of a good 3-4 NT, regardless of his injury before you have a replacement that can learn from the former NT. I think the Chargers will use a base 4-3 and go to a Tampa 2 much like Rivera used before. Vasher signing anyone, hint hint. The zone is a better comfort level for Jammer, who gets burned often when in man to man, and why else would we have so much 4-3 personnel on the d line? Enlgish, last years 1st pick fits the 4-3 not the 3-4. I believe Aj will use the first pick on D but not a NT because that position is no longer needed in the 4-3. Look for him to draft a DB to solidify the secondary.
If we'er a passing team, why didn't we beat a running team. We need to match fire with fire with any team. Mathews, gerhart and tate are the only backs that fit. Big guys with speed. If Mathews doesn't fall to 28, Tate or gerhart are more likley, but 40 would be to high. We need another pick between 50 and 40 where you can get one of those guys. Then you get your 2 big D guys at 28, 40 and your dream back. Note: if you get a big back you need to keep sproles wich then would make no sence to get McCourty at 28.
I like the idea of drafting a Big D lineman in the first because we all watched that 4th and 2 vs the Jets and know if we had someone in the middle T. Jones wouldn't have done us like that. In A.J we trust, and he has a good track record so I'm excited for thursday
I really don't know what you guys are talking about. We need a Run Game to be the best in the league. Our defense is not really that bad. If we can get Aluala in the 2rd we will be much better on defense period and Merriman the OLB I know we are going to be on top of our game again. I really thing the rotation at nose would be ok one more year. Pick up a veteran in the second wave to help at nose. I think our secondary is pretty good.
1) Ryan Matthews or Javid Best
2) Tyson Aluala move up if we have to
2) Terrance cody or Cam Thomas (trade Spoles period to much money)
3) Lagarrette Blout or trade with the bills for Marshawn Lynch
4) Myron Rolle Florida State FS/CB
5) OL or QB
6) OL or QB
- Chris said... Apr 19, 2010, 11:53:00 PM
moving to the 4-3 defense is interesting. i thought of the same thing last year when Jwall went down. It would certainly be interesting, and Rivera might have already considered it.
I do not think that we will be moving to the 4-3 mainly because we do not have any pure pass rushing DE. Merriman Phillips and even applewhit and Tucker are more linebacker types.
as for a NT I really like the idea of spending both #28 and #40 on DL help to solidify our defense. we have plenty of ammo to trade into the late 2nd or early 3rd for a RB maybe 2 like Joe Mcknight and Anthony Dixon.
#28 Linval Joseph( he can play both DE and NT)
#40 T.Cody/Alualu/C. Thomas
I'm Glad we can stop guessing in two more days because, this is driving me crazy!!! As a Charger fan I just want to WIN a SUPERBOWL and I'm with whatever it'll take to get us to that SB. I believe AJ has been Scratching on the past few drafts and he needs to come up big in this years draft!
I read a post about us switching to a 4-3... very interesting but... we'll see. I think we do need to deal Sproles and get an extra pick and possibly even Jackson... There are a ton of options it makes me nuts. I believe we need more picks in rounds 2-4 and this can get very interesting come 2010.
We need defence first. DB then some huge guy for the line. then a running back or someone for the O line. The chargers are a passing team now and i think if they got Lagarrette Blout late then he would do fine
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Full name Stephen Paul Fleming
Born April 1, 1973, Christchurch, Canterbury
Current age 44 years 59 days
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Playing role Top-order batsman
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Likely to be India, England, Australia and South Africa in the semis
The Champions Trophy is set to be an exciting and competitive 50-over tournament
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The Champions Trophy has produced some captivating moments and storylines over the years. How many of these do you recall?
A history of the Champions Trophy in seven matches
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ESPNcricinfo correspondents pick out their names to keep an eye on at the Champions Trophy
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Things to keep in mind:
- Longer slides have easier recoil springs
- "Limp wristing" may be a serious problem if granny is arthritic.
- Avoid the pocket guns.
- Nothing above 9mm???? .45 typically makes for a larger grip unless you go single stack.
- There's a trade off between the light weight of polymer and felt recoil absorbing mass of metal framed guns
Maybe a full size 9mm (standard velocity loads,not +P), I'd opt for a Glock 17 Gen4 or S&W M&P. Typically lighter trigger pulls than DA/SA guns, the polymer makes them light without giving up too much in recoil absorbing mass.
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Top bar hive beekeeper Les Crowder is doing a slideshow/talk about top bar hive beekeeping , on March 2, from 7-9 pm, at the Ecology Center
Bookstore in Berkeley Ca .
Les has been teaching top bar hive and sustainable beekeeping workshops in the Southwest for many years and is highly respected as a top bar hive expert.
The Ecology Center is located at 2530 San Pablo Ave (near Dwight)
Berkeley, CA 94702, and is open from Tuesday - Saturday, 11:00 a.m. -
6:00 p.m. (510) 548-3402 firstname.lastname@example.com
I don't have further info at the moment - usually the Ecology Center's evening lectures are free- check the March section of the www.ecologycenter.org website calendar in a few days for details
(there's nothing about this event at the calendar yet as they just
scheduled it last week)


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Police arrest father, sons for Colorado Springs bank robberies
Brothers accused of committing holdups; father suspected of driving getaway car
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. - Colorado Springs police on Thursday made a break in a series of summer bank robberies. The suspects are a father and his two sons.
Police said Brock Butson, 51, drove the getaway car while Braden Butson, 23, and Nicholas Butson, 20, took turns committing the holdups. They face multiple bank robbery charges.
Officers arrested the trio at the Travel Star Inn on South Nevada Avenue. Police received tips about the Butsons after releasing surveillance photos taken during the robberies.
Detectives with the police robbery unit staked out the inn until they saw the car and two men who matched earlier descriptions. It was believed that only one man committed the robberies, police said, until they learned different heights were described and led police to realize there was possibly a second suspect.
According to police, the Academy Bank at 2835 Briargate Boulevard was robbed four times and had an attempted robbery. American National Bank at 3755 Briargate Boulevard, U.S. Bank located at 1125 West Garden of the Gods Road and First Bank at 817 Village Center Drive also were robbed, police said.
"I think it's nuts!" said former Academy Bank customer Dave Gray about the family of potential robbers.
Since May 20, police have been investigating the robberies.
"I can't believe a father would jeopardize his son's freedom like that. That's just asinine to me," said Gray.
Police say the Butson brothers robbed the Academy Bank on Briargate Boulevard four times and attempted a fifth time. So investigators were ready to catch them there, but police believe the Butson family robbed the ANB Bank instead, just a mile down the street.
After an eighth robbery happened on Thursday August 29, police released pictures of the suspects. Tips came in giving investigators the idea there were two men robbing banks.
"As it turned out, one of our robbery detectives who was just very alert, looking for a suspect vehicle, found it Sunday at a motel," said Colorado Springs Police spokesperson Barbara Miller.
Police found the Butsons at the travel star motel on South Nevada Avenue. Residents say the crimes are a sign of the times.
"The family has broken down so much and the economy is so bad that people are using that as an excuse for really selfish and desperate acts," said Deborah Hoffman.
In each holdup a suspect wore a ball cap, apparently had no weapon and left quickly after demanding money.
The FBI assisted police in the investigation.
Employees of the inn said they were concerned about the suspects being at their business.
"This is a family business that we just started," said an employee. "We don't want customers to see us in a bad light because of them.
A former close friend of the father tells Newschannel 13 Brock admitted he's been having money troubles. All three are facing charges of multiple counts of robbery.


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Abler-Minded: Philosophy
I took one philosophy course in college and didn't do very well. I did pass, but in the absolute minimal sense of the word passing.
I just couldn't seem to get my arms wrapped around Spinoza, Descartes and all the other philosophers who were presented in that Introduction to Philosophy class.
On the other hand, one of the people who worked for me many years ago told me I was the most philosophical person he had ever known. I never thought to ask him if that was meant to be a compliment or a criticism. I would imagine it was a little bit of both, with a strong tendency toward the criticism side.
My staff never seemed to be ready for my favorite question, "Why are we doing this and what are our expectations when this is finished?" They never wanted to do the head work to ensure we weren't pursuing a course of action just because it was new and different.
If we were going to wholeheartedly pursue a system or a change in the way we did business, it had to fit into the overall goals, objectives and strategy.
I believe I could write a whole column just trying to define philosophy and would not be satisfied with the result once I reached the end. But I'll tell you why it is so critically important to think about the word. If we don't understand our own and the philosophy of life that others follow, we are doomed to be unable to communicate and cooperate on the same level about much of anything.
Indeed, we will likely be in significant, irresolvable disagreements on nearly everything.
All you have to do to see the proof of this is to examine the stagnation in our national and some of our state governments. Problems are not being addressed in a rational manner; the majority is normally dictating a course of action that usually doesn't solve anything other than to be responsive to one or more of its constituencies.
The opposition often expresses its position in strident terms guaranteed to bolster its constituencies' desires. The average citizen who is wondering when a solution will be forthcoming usually can't understand either what is going on or why.
Guess who spent a lot of time discussing ideals, ethics and morals, as well as the practical side of creating a government? It was our founding fathers who worked through the Declaration of Independence and then went on to the Articles of Confederation, and ultimately wrote the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. All of these documents have a deeply philosophical basis that espouses the ideals of our democratic republic and the guarantees of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
The Constitution, including the Bill of Rights, is the legal source document for how our nation should be governed. The current president has done his best to dismantle not only the legal, but also the moral and ethical, bases for actions by the government. The constitutional system of checks and balances that was designed to ensure no one branch of government could assume too much power has been blown to smithereens thanks to the bickering and inaction within the legislative branch, much to the glee of the executive folks who have filled the power vacuum to the point of a tacit monarchy of sorts.
Indeed, one of the biggest stumbling blocks to discussing philosophy is that it involves issues dealing with ideals, ethics and morals. Our national philosophy seems to be that we don't want to discuss anything that has to do with these three areas because they are "private." At social gatherings we're advised not to discuss religion or politics. But both of those subjects involve deeply ethical and moral issues. We conveniently push those considerations aside by discussing only the legality of some of our more controversial social practices.
We collectively laugh at the politician who is under investigation for some ethical or moral breach of conduct and offers the "I did nothing illegal!" defense. But when the subject of abortion on demand is put on the table, it's off limits because it's "legal." I have tried and failed to identify any rational, defensible philosophy that supports the killing of human life in the womb or as a supposedly compassionate act to end suffering. And yet, we think we value "life" while we appear to value death far more as a solution to what we perceive as a difficult problem.
When talking about ethical and moral issues, it is always much more comfortable to talk about those subjects in relation to other people than in ourselves. Have you noticed how the rich are now evil because they are being selfish and not sharing enough of their money for the common good? It is very interesting how the government is so adept at using ethical arguments as a club while failing miserably in examining the ethical bases for its own programs.
Your final exam is one question. When will we know that the government has enough (of our) money?
You have 30 minutes to finish your essay. Good luck.
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Welcome to Scratch Cookin' Tuesday here at Granny's Vital Vittles! This is a real food carnival where those who blog about real food issues come together to link up their popular posts and their favorite "from scratch" recipes.
Feel free to link up your real food recipe posts, your take on real food news, your opinions on real food and health related matters, and issues related to small scale farming and local food. Can't wait to see what everyone links!
Guidelines for Participating
- Please link up your blog post using the Linky Tools widget below. If you are posting a recipe, only Real Food recipes are permitted please! This means no processed food ingredients with the possible of exception of unbleached white flour and some sugar as concessions to Grandma's cooking. Please no Velveeta, Crisco, canned soups, Jello, evaporated milk or Bisquick, no soy or margarine. Posts that do not qualify as Real Food will be deleted.
- Always link to the URL of your blog post and not your home page.
- Don't forget to link to this post from your blog post and leave a comment.
I've been linking up as many as I could to either Facebook or G+ or Pinterest with the goal of getting all of them. I think the number of posts is slowly overwhelming my ability to keep up :-). Starting this week I'll be getting the word out for as many of my favorites as time permits.
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CNET founder tops list of delinquent taxpayers
Original post made on Oct 16, 2012
Read the full story here Web Link posted Monday, October 15, 2012, 3:18 PM
a resident of Danville
on Oct 16, 2012 at 6:29 am
Don't be too upset by these folks, after all they are the job creators and need the tax breaks for their opulent lifestyles. Wonder who they are voting for?
a resident of Danville
on Oct 16, 2012 at 11:14 am
Aw, Bill! Does the tax rate matter if you aren't paying?! Regardless of who is president or what the tax rate is, these people who don't pay deserve to be punished and publicly humiliated. Their employees, if any, are probably glad for the job and are paying taxes.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 16, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Bill backwards is Lib...As are most of his backwards, liberal comments
a resident of Danville
on Oct 19, 2012 at 8:45 am
My goodness ! the review of the prior comments are so juvenile in nature and I suspect from alegged adults at that !


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I did a cut out yesterday and by the time I got home, I had a disaster with comb melting and bees drowning in honey. There wasnt that many bee to begin with, but now theres not many at all. I found the queen later in the evening and she looks like shes in pristine condition. I dont know how she made it....but now I have a few hundred or a thousand bees and no comb worth using and dont know what to do. Ive got the bees in a nuc with the queen in a queen cage. Theres not even enough bees to cover a few frames, I dont think.
So how do I go about this ? Im guessing my priority is to try and save the queen right ? And give her something to lay in or climb on ? I have 5 other hives and 2 are recent swarm catches (past 2 weeks) and both have queens as well as my 3 other existing hives. Ideas anyone ?


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BOZEMAN, Mont. - The Montana Economic Outlook Seminar is traveling the state updating each region on its economic strengths and weaknesses. Today NBC Montana spoke to the people behind the annual study.
Economists at the University of Montana said Bozeman is the fastest-growing city in Montana. They attribute Montana State University and technology companies as two of the driving forces of the upward economy.
Economist Patrick Barkey said technology and university studies have kept Bozeman moving.
"But there's also a diverse high-tech manufacturing cluster here in Bozeman that's part of it -- a spin-off of the university that's helped propel growth here," said Barkey.
Barkey is with the Bureau of Business and Economic Research. He explained the main differences between Bozeman and other cities in Montana.
"Where they diverge is that Bozeman is not only on an interstate which gives it better access to transportation, but home to MSU which is a large draw to students and research," said Barkey.
Barkey also credits tourism and said people who visit Bozeman end up staying here. "We have visitors coming here, but the ones who come here and stay decide to grow their business," he said.
NBC Montana wanted to know how travel agents manage visits to Bozeman. Pamela Hill, a Bozeman travel consultant, has worked in Bozeman for nearly 16 years and said the landscape and recreation play a big role.
"It's great to have people into Bozeman because we have world-class skiing both north and south of us, along with beautiful views," said Hill.
She said during the time she's spent in Bozeman the economy has always been strong. "The growth has been controlled and I still think it's a great small town," said Hill.
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I see it's all a conspiracy, but what a nice way to spend some money
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You sure can make spending gun money fun. Now where's those phone numbers? I could always use an adjustable AK trigger and probably more things while I'm there.
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If you have ever listened to Dr Ian Brooks talk about the Customer Experience (I have, in fact we wrote a book together), his number one point is the customer always comes first.
With this in mind, let's carry on with the series (from our kitchen renovation) on business improvement. We started with quote follow-up, moved to questioning customers on their needs. Now let's look at what happens when customers walk through your door.
As you would, I went to visit a variety of showrooms and stores for the different needs. Carpet, tiles, appliances, cabinetry and so on. The vast majority were satisfactory with the correct level of being greeted at the door; asked fairly quickly if they could help me and the right level of leaving me to browse.
However, it was a different experience at one of the carpet stores I visited. I'd like to discuss two important points to ensure doesn't happen at your business.
How much money does a business spend trying to get customers? Trying to get people to cross their threshold? When that happens - why ignore them?
My daughter Samantha and I walked into the Greenlane carpet/vinyl showroom from one of the companies that had come to quote on our flooring. I wanted to follow up by seeing a larger piece of carpet and vinyl than a couple of square feet. I have poor imagination.
Two employees were on opposite ends of the showroom. A man and woman. The woman on her computer (which was set up against a wall so her back was to us - and the showroom). The man in another room also on his computer. This was facing sideways so he could see people as they entered the section.
Samantha and I walked around and looked at the carpets displayed on the wall. We looked at the books of vinyl lying around. Neither of the sales people had looked up when we entered. Neither came to help up. Neither acknowledged we entered. Finally, finally, I went up to the woman and asked if she could find our quote in the computer (I had forgotten to bring the printout). She couldn't. We left.
Second. Appearance counts. The Greenlane showroom was a mess. Rolls of carpet out and about. Even though there were carpet samples on the walls, it didn't seem like there was any rhyme or reason to the place. It felt messy.
This was in direct contrast to their competitors. The other carpet showrooms were well organised. Sectioned. Logical. The computers and desks were in good locations so that staff could see the customers but not be in the way.
What is the takeaway for you?
1. Ensure your staff meet and great those most valuable assets walking through your front door (your prospects and customers).
2. Put a new pair of shoes on. Your customers' shoes. Go to your establishment with fresh eyes. You don't want all that hard work of marketing and advertising to be for naught because the sale is killed when someone enters your premises.
3. To someone who doesn't know about your products or services, is the layout inviting? It is logical? Is it clean?
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The officials were people that he bribed and now that he has been caught, he will be ratting them out to reduce his suspension. That is what a rat a pathetic rat does.
He wants to be able to compete in triathlons. I think the deal that he made to come clean also had something to do with lawsuits and criminal charges. I also think that since he knew he was dead to rights that he wanted to get ahead of it. I think it is obvious the guy is a control freak.
He should've never tried a comeback. He came back and destroyed Astana by turning them against Alberto Contador. He just didn't bank on the fact that Alberto Contador is the most talented cyclyst of all time and Alberto took that tour in spite of Lance's shenanigans and Johan Brunyeel efectively undermining him with the team. Lance also didn't bank on the latest technology in blood tests which picked up that his levels of oxygen in his blood were one in ten million and that led to the other tests and the new more determined investigation in to his doping. He should have stayed away from professional cycling and he should have not been such a jerk.
WAY more athletes use performance enhancers than people think.
The number of athletes making unprecedented recoveries lately is more than suspect.
Well we know our guys didnt take any PEDs this past season... If I had to had to guess I'd say most of them were on regular doses of ambien.


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I have 10 hives and have had probably 20 over the last 5 years. I have my entrance wide open. Every hive I've ever had always come and go from the far left side of the entrance. Probably using 2-3" of the entrance. I've always noticed that. But this one swarm I got a few months ago uses the far right side of the entrance to come and go. Just an observation.
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Tynes is a reliable kicker with the game on the line. Nobody can kick 56 yards against the wind in the rain.
the only consistent part of the Giant this year was the kicking/punting game.
With the "real" issues the team has do we need to harp on Tynes????
"Measure Twice......Cut Once"
You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch
Tynes is consistent....inside 40 yards. Whoopee.
It's a moot point, really......the Giants will keep Tynes, and we'll keep punting from the opponent's 35 because Tynes can't kick a long field goal.
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Snake-bitten Baker forced to retire in second round with torn meniscus
Not again.
Brian Baker, who made an inspiring comeback last season after years of injury problems, retired from his second-round match against fellow American Sam Querrey at the Australian Open on Wednesday because of a serious knee injury. (Update: Baker has been diagnosed with a torn meniscus and is expected to miss four months.)
Baker, ranked 59th and making his first appearance at the Australian Open, was leading 7-6 (2), 1-1 when he was pulled wide for a routine backhand. When he went to change directions, his right knee buckled. Unable to put any weight on his leg, Baker hopped to his chair to wait for the trainer. After a few minutes of evaluation during which Baker writhed in pain, he finally shook his head, shook Querrey's hand and waited for a wheelchair. It was heartbreaking for Baker, who could do nothing but sit with his head in his hands.
"He said he kind of just felt his knee almost buckle and kind of heard like a pop or a snap," Querrey said. "He didn't know if it was bones or a tear, but he couldn't straighten it, couldn't walk. I feel awful for him."
Baker's comeback from five surgeries from 2005-08 -- three on his hips, one to repair a sports hernia and Tommy John surgery on his elbow -- was one of the feel-good stories of 2012. He spent the summer turning patronizing skeptics ("Oh, that's a nice but flash-in-the-pan story") into true believers. Finally healthy again, the 27-year-old former junior standout from Tennessee got his shot at a prolonged and sustained stretch on tour, winning his first Slam match in seven years (at the French Open), making the Round of 16 at Wimbledon two weeks later and reaching his first ATP final (in Nice, France).
This was going to be the year Baker went from a novelty act to an established threat. With a balanced game that almost seems like a throwback -- hey look, he comes to the net! -- he could be a surefire threat for titles at the second-tier ATP tournaments. As he showed last year, he's one of the few Americans who can play on both specialty surfaces, clay and grass. Now the question is, depending on the severity of the knee injury, whether Baker has it in him for yet another comeback.
"He's the last person that deserves anything like that with his five or six surgeries already," Querrey said. "He does everything right, treats his body great, just trying to come back, and then something like that happens, it's just so unlucky.
Baker's injury is just another blow to American men's tennis, which has come out of the gates limping in the post-Andy Roddick era. Mardy Fish and John Isner were already forced to skip the Australian Open due to illness and injury. Baker's retirement puts No. 20 Querrey, the only seeded American, into the third round, where he gets No. 15 Stanislas Wawrinka. With three other unseeded Americans taking on seeds in the second round, all eyes will be on the laid-back Californian to carry the American hopes. If Querrey doesn't win his next match, that could mean no American men into the first weekend in Melbourne for a second straight year.


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Is there anyone out there doing apitherapy or knows how? Where do you learn? I know I have all kinds of achs and pains I would like to experiment on if I new how.
Is there anyone out there doing apitherapy or knows how? Where do you learn? I know I have all kinds of achs and pains I would like to experiment on if I new how.
The American Apitherapy Society International Conference will be held in Raleigh, NC. April 26-29, 2007. To register or receive more information visit www.apitherapy.org or email email@example.com. 818-501-0446.
I have been using stings for leg pain from a ruptured disc in my back and some arthritis/degenerative disc disease in my neck that causes neck, shoulder and arm pain. There are two books that I have found helpful. They are How Well Are You Willing to Bee by Pat Wagner and Bee in Balance by Amber Rose. I thought the book by Amber Rose was more thorough and better written but either one would be a good starting place. What was more even more helpful was the advice from Frederique Keller at the NC/SC beekeepers meeting in Monroe, NC in March. She and an MD did a program on apitherapy and then Frederique did bee stings for those who wanted them until she ran out of time in the first session. I didn't stay for any other sessions. I think they did three.
I also use bee pollen for allergies and just rendered my first propolis with 190 proof alcohol but I haven't used the propolis tincture yet.
This should be a fun place to exchange ideas.
Howdy folks,
I think running a search on google might be good first step. If I find the time tonight I'm going to do that.
I find that a sting just about anywhere makes my hip and knees feel better, but I am sure that there are specific spots that are synergistic receptors for stings.
Well I'm glad Barry added this forum. I didn't notice it right away though!
I'll post with some results
September 8th 2007 is National Beekeeping Day
American Agriculture, its as close as the nearest Honeybee!
I got some of the problems that you described. I was wondering how to administer the sting therapy? I read that there are certain areas of the body that are best to use for different ailments. I got the lower back pain, arthritis in the back and all that good stuff. So, how do I do this?
The problems I got advice from Frederique Keller on were for my right sided neck, shoulder and arm pain from degenerative disc disease affecting the upper part of my back. That said, I have had very little of the lower back/left leg pain since using the sites she recommended.
I'll try to describe where they are as best I can. I can also get out the books that I have and see what they recommend for lower back pain if you want. I will say that Keller's recommendations were amazingly successful... I mean immediately. The sites I got from the book were helpful, but did not completely get rid of the pain and took time to work.
If you decide to do these, make sure you do a test sting if you have not been stung yet this year. Also I recommend icing the site before you sting. A couple of the sites are more painful to sting than others. I use a jar with frozen liquid in it that I can roll from site to site. (My husband is stinging one site while I hold the jar on the next.)
Keller's recommendations for my pain:
Sting site #1: Upper neck, just below and to the left of right lymph node. My husband calls this a "massage point."
Sting site #2: Top of the right shoulder - very close to the clavicle (collar bone) insertion point.
Sting site #3 Put your finger on your edge of your right shoulder and then using pressure from your finger slide your finger down the front side of your arm slowly. The point is just under the edge of your shoulder, where you feel an indention. It feels like your finger goes into a shallow hole.
Sting site #4: Bend your right elbow. The site is just to the right of the crease in your arm from the bent elbow.
Site #5: About two inches down your arm (toward your hand) from Site #4; the top of the tennis elbow muscle.
Site #6: Two inches above the wrist bones. (Outer arm, not inner arm)
Site #7: Spread your first finger and thumb. With your finger, follow the center of "V" between them moving toward the point of the "V" until you reach bones. (This is the back side of the hand, not the palm.) Sting in the point of the "V."
Site #8: Right first finger (index finger), left side of the finger, just to the left of the cuticle.
If you start bee sting therapy, let me know how you do and let me know if you want me to look up lower back pain in the books that I have.
Thanks for the info. Most of my problem is lower back and left leg. Lady I know buys a few bees from me for this purpose. She says she takes the sting on her buttocks, just like a regular injection! But I've always been told that location of the sting is most important. So, I don't know how to do it.
I do get several stings in the course of a year, most of which are intentional, and I can tell you that the arthritis in my hands are helped temporarily by this. But the lower back problem is not.


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Six graduate programs leading to the master's degree are offered: the master of music or master of science in music education; and the master of music in performance, conducting, composition, and Suzuki pedagogy. Programs range from 30 to 36 credits of graduate study. A minimum combination of two consecutive terms of full-time study in residence is required for the master of music degrees in performance and composition. The master of science or master of music in music education degrees may be pursued on a part-time basis and is the only master's degree that is offered during the summer. The master of music degrees in conducting and Suzuki pedagogy require two years in residence.
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After a 13-year hunt Radovan Karadzic, the man accused of masterminding the Srebrenica massacre, has finally been arrested in Serbia.
It was a momentous arrest that brought to mind the capture of Saddam Hussein. "Ladies and Gentlemen, we got him." They were the words of Paul Bremer, the American pro-consul in Iraq, on the capture of the former Iraqi leader. But they could equally apply to last night's triumphant announcement that the former Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic had finally been run to ground by Serbian security forces.
Karadzic, wanted by the United Nations War Crimes Tribunal for genocide, has eluded the world's best-equipped armies since the end of the Bosnian war in 1995 and topped the list of the UN war crimes court for former Yugoslavia. His co-indictee, the Bosnian Serb military commander General Ratko Mladic, remains at large, however.
The pair are accused of masterminding the massacre of more than 7,500 Muslim men and boys in the "safe haven" of Srebrenica in July 1995. It was the worst atrocity in Europe since the end of the Second World War. They are also indicted for the siege of the Bosnian capital, Sarajevo, that lasted for three-and-half years and left 10,000 people dead.
Karadzic, 64, has been handed over to the war crimes section of Belgrade County Court, pending his extradition to The Hague, in The Netherlands. No details were released last night on the circumstances of the arrest which was announced by the Serbian president's office.
The arrest, a milestone for Serbia, which had been accused of shielding the pair for more than a decade, sets the Balkans country firmly on the road to European Union membership under the new pro-European government there. The arrest of Karadzic and other indicted war criminals is a key condition posed by the EU for membership.
The news was greeted with euphoria across Europe, and welcomed by the UN War Crimes Prosecutor for the Former Yugoslavia and by the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation, which had launched a number of unsuccessful raids on Karadzic's presumed hideouts in recent years.
The EU said the arrest "illustrates the commitment of the new Belgrade government to contributing to peace and stability in the Balkans region".
A statement from the EU presidency, currently held by France, said the arrest was "an important step on the path to the rapprochement of Serbia with the European Union". The issue of Serbian membership is expected to be discussed by EU foreign ministers in Brussels today.
Richard Holbrooke, a former US assistant secretary of state for Europe who negotiated the 1995 Dayton accords that ended the Bosnian war, welcomed his capture, describing him as the Osama bin Laden of Europe, "a real, true architect of mass murder".
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Karadzic, a psychiatrist by training, went into hiding only a year after the war in Bosnia had ended with the Dayton accords.
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Time is running out fast on what USDA Secretary Tom Vilsack (pictured here) thinks would be a Medusa-headed disaster for U.S. milk producers if a new farm bill is not passed this year.
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Reason number two is the House of Representatives which has not yet passed a farm bill (the Senate has). The House goes back to work November 13 and will adjourn for the year on December 14. With a week off for Thanksgiving, that leaves just 16 total postelection working days.
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Friday July 20th we moved further south to Kamloops, a larger city on the Thompson
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Sunday July 22nd started with a visit to the beautiful Minter Gardens. Anybody who likes flowers had to appreciate the plantings here. Our second stop, Fort Langley, had to be postponed because of excessive event traffic in the area so we just headed for Burnaby and our campground. Tonight was pizza night and one of our fellow caravan members had a birthday; so Tanna got a big birthday cake and we celebrated.
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Home › Forums › Gear Forums › Gear (General) › Wind and eVent v.s. Gore-Tex
Mar 3, 2013 at 5:35 pm #1299953
I notice this past week while skiing on a very windy afternoon at Alta, Utah, that I could feel a bit of cooling inside my eVent parka, unlike what I've noticed over the years in GTX parkas where wind does not seem to penetrate, regardless of wind speed.
Anyone had a similar experience with eVent's "breathability"?Mar 3, 2013 at 5:39 pm #1961016
Stephen MBPL Member
@stephen-mLocale: Way up North
When I moved over from Goretex to Even I found I had to wear an extra layer on occasion.Mar 3, 2013 at 5:42 pm #1961018
Ben 2 WorldBPL Member
@ben2worldLocale: So Cal
Breathability cuts both ways. eVent is directly venting. Goretex is not. When heating up, you will feel clammy with Goretex significantly sooner than you will with eVent. And of course, the flip side will be true as well. eVent blocks a lot of wind to be sure — but not as much as Goretex. Neither is perfect in all conditions — but for me, I vote eVent over Goretex.
When hiking with the winds howling, I want a shell that can block most all of the winds but without making me sweat inside. I really dislike having to constantly zip and unzip; or worse, put on and take off my shell layer. Here, eVent is clearly superior to Goretex. But when at rest… if I find my eVent shell not warm enough, I can put on an insulation layer. Being at rest, I don't mind this so much.Mar 3, 2013 at 6:55 pm #1961048
steven franchukMember
I have noticed it as well however I don't think it is wind related since Event blocks almost all of the wind. I believe what you felt is evaporation cooling. Turning liquid water to vapor takes a significant amount of energy. The vapor then quickly travels through the membrane. You felt the cooling effect of water being converted to vapor.
With a pack on I noticed I felt cooling just to the left and right of my backpack. The pack prevented event from breathing so the water wicked sideways until it could evaporate and pass through the fabrice. Later on that same hike I also noticed my pack was getting wet (I was using the rain jacket as a wind shirt, it didn't rain). Some vapor did manage to penetrate the fabric where the pack was and as a result the pack and the outside of my event jacket were moist. I never saw that with my Gortex Jacket.Mar 3, 2013 at 7:12 pm #1961056
Yeh I was on the top of the famously cold and windy Jay Peak, VT this past weekend with Event shell pants and Goretex pro shell jacket. Pants over R1 pants, jacket over cap4+R2. So very wind permeable insulating layers. I could easily feel the wind through the Event (or some sort of cooling) but not the goretex. Pros and cons.Mar 4, 2013 at 11:33 am #1961271
After looking throught the responses I see I'm not alone in my experience with eVent in very windy conditions.
I think eVent lets more wind through than "regular" Gore-Tex. But maybe the most breathable GTX, which is the Pro Shell version would be similar to eVent.
Anybody have GTX Pro Shell?
My Ski Patrol parka is "regular" GTX and wind never gets through – but I do get clammy when working hard in that parka.
>> In any case I'll still use my REI eVent parka year around. I make it double as a wind shirt and it works well in that capacity. Even dedicated wind shirts seem to be more permeable than eVent.Mar 4, 2013 at 11:56 am #1961283
Greg MihalikBPL Member
@greg23Locale: Colorado
"…I could easily feel the wind through the Event (or some sort of cooling) …"
I'm guessing that "some sort of cooling" is the issue, not airflow through the laminate.
From Mr. Nisley:
"Cubic feet per minute per square meter (CFM) is a measure of the wind resistance or air permeability of a fabric. The higher the CFM, the greater the volume of air passing through.
"Traditional barriers like H2NO, Gore-Tex, eVENT, Triple Point, Entrant, and other respectable waterproof breathable technologies all have a 0 CFM rating. If you are just sitting still or doing camp chores a 0 CFM garment will block all wind and keep you the warmest. Both eVENT and Gore-Tex Direct Venting achieve this with a pore size of about .2 microns.
"With the advent of soft shells and more breathable fabrics, the air permeability argument becomes complicated, sometimes heated. If you are backpacking, you can afford a bit of convective heat loss. You need more breathability to move the extra moisture you create through exertion. And a fabric with 0 CFM doesn't provide it. Fabrics that measure as much as 5 CFM are still functionally windproof: that is, you don't feel the breeze come through. And they afford much greater comfort with the high exertion rates during backpacking. Popular wind shirts, like the Patagonia Houdini, fall into this class as do the best soft shells. The average pore size for this class of fabrics is about 20 microns or 100x times larger than eVENT. Any larger pore size will result in more than 5 CFM. After 5 CFM you can start to feel the wind through the fabric."Mar 4, 2013 at 12:06 pm #1961290
David OlsenSpectator
@owareLocale: Steptoe Butte
Not exactly your question.
I once tried a gaiter of eVent on one leg and one of Epic on the other. The breathable fabric was WAY more drafty than the
eVent. No great surprise, I sweated easily in the eVent gaiter first.Mar 4, 2013 at 12:32 pm #1961298
My shell is a Goretex Pro Shell (Arcteryx Theta AR) and I've yet to feel wind through it. The pic in my avatar is me wearing it on a trip with -5F (not windchill) and 75mph winds. That said, you can also see that i had it unzipped in that pic… ha. I do certainly use the pit zips on that jacket. I pretty much always have them unzipped between 1-3" and I'm fine while hiking, skiing, etc.Mar 4, 2013 at 12:34 pm #1961299
Greg, I'm sure you're right. Another factor that i had forgotten about is that my shell pants have full length zippers. They're welded, but i'm sure that's their weakest point.Mar 4, 2013 at 1:10 pm #1961324
Justin BakerBPL Member
@justin_bakerLocale: Santa Rosa, CA
Would a windshirt be more or less windproof?
I'm really surprised that wind can get through a wp/b layer.Mar 4, 2013 at 1:30 pm #1961333
Roger CaffinModerator
@rcaffinLocale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
> I don't think it is wind related since Event blocks almost all of the wind.
> I believe what you felt is evaporation cooling. Turning liquid water to vapor
> takes a significant amount of energy. The vapor then quickly travels through the
> membrane. You felt the cooling effect of water being converted to vapor.
A very simple test is to try to blow through the fabric. You will very quickly find that membrane fabrics do not let the wind through. But eVent does let water vapour through faster than trad Goretex. That is the whole idea, isn't it?
CheersMar 4, 2013 at 1:32 pm #1961335
Walter CarringtonBPL Member
@snowleopardLocale: Mass.
I live in a very windy place and often wear my Event shell jacket for short walks where I don't get sweaty. It is very windproof and seems comparable to Gore-Tex in wind resistance. I think what you're seeing is more evaporative cooling with Event than with Goretex. This is what it is supposed to do and matches specs, but is sometimes a disadvantage.Mar 4, 2013 at 2:17 pm #1961358
Jerry AdamsBPL Member
@retiredjerryLocale: Oregon and Washington
"But eVent does let water vapour through faster than trad Goretex."
That's consistent with what Greg said, if eVent feels cooler its because of evaporative heat loss
So, if there's water there that can be evaporated, it should be. The solution is to not sweat. Don't wear too much clothing or slow down.
Or, maybe it's like the concept behind VBL clothing, if the humidity gets high, then you will stop sweating. But then everything inside the eVent will get damp which wouldn't be good.Mar 6, 2013 at 2:26 pm #1962260
Mike OxfordBPL Member
@moxfordLocale: Silicon Valley, CA
I notice that my (uninsulated) eVent feels more "drafty" than anything else. Even when just standing around and not moving (eg, at the train station) it APPEARS that I can feel more air movement thought it even fully zipped up and I'm nowhere near hot.
I just keep an tiny packable (EB FA) windshell in the pocket, which I would have anyways. If it's raining and I'm getting too cold, the windshell goes on, either under or over depending on the situation. Terrible fashion but it works. :)
-moxMar 6, 2013 at 4:07 pm #1962327
… I stand corrected. What I felt then likely was faster evaporative cooling than I do with traditional Gore-Tex shells. eVent truly does breathe very well and is "direct venting", not relying on absorption and wicking like traditional GTX.
BUT, either way I felt cooler in the eVent parka. I had Gore-Tex ski pants on and did not feel cooler on my legs.
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