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Reoccurring vomiting/diarrhea
Early February, Kora had an incident of vomiting and diarrhea. Took her to the vet where they did blood work and x-rays. Blood work was normal. X-rays showed some kind of blockage from her small intestine to colon. Vet was about to close so recommended we take her to be hospitalized at the emergency vet. They kept her under observation overnight and gave her fluids and bland diet in the morning. We picked her up that evening, were given metronidozole (excuse my spelling) and pepcid ac, and kept her on boiled ground turkey and white rice for a few days before slowly switching her back to her regular diet (Blue Buffalo Wilderness). Exactly a month later, the same thing happened. Took her to her regular vet again - they tested for heart worm, giardia, and eventually we decided to do x-rays again. The x-rays showed that (again) there was some kind of a blockage and her colon was inflamed to 3x its normal size. Vet recommended bland diet, metro and pepcid ac again. We also began adding pumpkin to bland diet to up fiber intake. She was also given subcutaneous fluids. Took her back for a checkup a week later and vet said she looked good, to start getting her back on her regular diet, and to add psyllium powder (2tbs every 24 hours) to her food instead of pumpkin. Tentative diagnosis was colitis secondary to lack of fiber. None of the "blockages" were ever found to be a nonfood item that she ate.
A week later would bring us to today. Kora was outside with my husband and our husky. He reports that she began digging in the dirt and kind of coughing and then she threw up partially digested kibble and foam. This was before her dinner, so she hadn't eaten for 8+ hours. Then she kept doing this weird breathing/panting thing - I don't know how to describe it other than almost like almost burping. I called the vet immediately because it freaked me out so much - and they know me pretty well there by now. As I was speaking to the vet tech, Kora began to slow down her breathing, drank some water, and stopped doing that weird breathing thing, so we did not take her in. An hour later she ate dinner, and then she had diarrhea.
I plan on calling the vet in the morning (again) and withholding her breakfast.
I am at a loss. I cannot afford to keep taking her back to the vet for the same thing she should not be getting continual bouts of vomiting and diarrhea, especially with added fiber to her food. She is almost 2 years old, has been on Wilderness for almost a year, but has never really had a good firm stool consistently we have intermittently done pumpkin and she has had anal gland infections in the past, which they said was because she didn't have enough of a firm stool because of lack of fiber. I am considering raw diet, but with my schedule and my husband's schedule I am not sure how it would fit into our lifestyle, or where to start.
Any advice is appreciated.
I would take her to a different vet. I had a similar situation with my golden. They did X-rays, barium test, more X-rays. Things were passing , slowly but passing. He was fine within a few days. I changed his dog food because my other dog started showing similar symptoms. No problems since.
Llombardo's advice is right on- getting a second opinion is probably good in your situation- been there, done that, sometimes will take a change of food after the dog has recovered-:). Bob
GI issues are very distressing and can be tricky to figure out. Another vet might not hurt just to get the ball rolling, but I might also consider an internal medicine specialist, if you have a specialty practice in your area, or a teaching hospital if you have a large University nearby with a veterinary school.
My own dog went through similar issues-- vomiting and diarrhea, sometimes vomiting up kibble 8+ hours after eating, plus weight loss, bad gas, etc. It was nearly a six month process to figure out what was wrong with him. I have a thread on the board about it that I'll link here:
One thing you might try just to start off is switching your dog's food. Wellness is a great brand but there lots of ingredients, and even a single ingredient might be throwing off your dog's GI tract. You might consider switching her to a kibble that has a single novel protein source (a protein source she's never eaten before) and a single novel carb source. California Naturals, Nature's Variety Instinct, and Natural Balance all have limited ingredient foods, and Wellness has their simple solutions if you can find one that had a protein source she's never had before. Try her on the new food for several weeks and see if that makes any changes.
Other possibilities that wouldn't hurt to try:
Worms can be difficult to detect sometimes on fecal exams. Might not hurt to do a round or two of Pancur.
Same with giarida-- the giardi life cycle is cyclical so they won't always have the symptoms, so it's very difficult to pick up on a fecal exam. Many folks on the forum have had a lot of success with this product:
Good luck, and please keep us updated. GI issues are so frustrating. :(
Thanks so much for the suggestions. I will be getting a second opinion soon. There is a holistic vet about an hour away, so I think we may try there. Llombardo, what kind of food did you switch to?
_Zero_, thank you also for linking your thread. I know they did fecal tests both times we went in and one giardia test and seemed pretty confident it wasn't either, but I may ask about it anyway just to be sure.
Have you looked into Small Intestine Bacteria Overgrowth S.I.B.O. or Irritable Bowel Disease I.B.D also is she on a good probiotic...My boy is having the same problems for the last 6months not digesting his kibble vomiting it up 7 hours later still formed..now I boil the jug I put half a cup of boiling water in a cup, I put 1 kibble in the boiling water, I count too 40sec then take out the kibble put it inbetween 2 spoons & see if u can easily crush the kibble, I found that some kibbles are so hard, I stay away from them.. My vet has put my boy on the Eukanuba Intestinal vet prescription diet kibble, Its a low residue kibble & breaks up very easy, the Intestinal has stopped the undigested kibble when he vomites. If ur in Americia I think its called Iams, I know it has corn in it but its been the only kibble that has helped with the diarrhea & vomiting, my vet said to leave him on the Eulkanuba Intestinal for 6months & no treats nothing then in 6months I can introduce a new food once the tummy & bowels have settled..
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Jun 2, 2012 at 8:50 pm #1290622
Hello everyone! I'm new to Backpacking Light and I would like your opinions on my gear list. I'm looking for tips on going lighter, multi use items, and things I may be missing.
A few disclaimers:
– The stove is heavy compared to an alcohol stove but I don't have to carry any fuel.
– The stakes are small and light but they hold down the tarp even in heavy wind.
– I am looking into a Zpacks food bag. Any testimonies?
– I use Dr. Bronner's as toothpaste. It doesn't bother me.
– I'm prone to blisters and moleskins don't help. Wearing camp shoes allows my feet to air out.
– The hip pack is great, especially in town!Jun 2, 2012 at 10:10 pm #1883436
Steven ParisBPL Member
@saparisorLocale: Pacific Northwest
Welcome to BPL!
This is a really good gear list. There's just not too much to change.
You could go with a Sawyer Squeeze filter instead of the Platypus Gravityworks and save several ounces — but — if you already have the GW, then switching isn't going to make or break your thru-hike and is just more money to spend.
Maybe throw in a 1 oz bug headnet. Previous AT-hikers can maybe chime in whether that's really needed or not.
Otherwise, great job!Jun 3, 2012 at 5:11 am #1883470
Chris WBPL Member
@simplespiritLocale: .
Is this for a thru or just general use?
The easiest swap I see for real savings without sacrifice would be to use repackaged AquaMira for water treatment. That would save about 8 oz. Gravity filters are great for groups or when you plan to spend a lot of time in camp, but not so good for the soloist on the move.
I've been using a Zpacks Blast food bag for the last couple of years with no issues. On the AT you mostly need to protect your food from small critters rather than bears, and those critters have a hard time chewing through the Cuben used in the Blast bag. I'd also consider lining it with an OpSack. Odor proofing your stash just adds that little bit of extra protection. FWIW, I generally only use the Blast bag for hanging when in grizzly country. Most of the time here I just use OpSacks and stash it out of site away from where I'm sleeping. Do that at your own risk of course.Jun 3, 2012 at 5:47 am #1883473
Chris MuthigSpectator
@cmuthigLocale: Georgia
The list looks good. The hammock setup sounds really cozy. It would be helpful to know if it is for a thru-hike or not.
I think you can still drop a few oz by replacing or just nixing certain things.
I'm counting four pairs of socks. What is the use for all of them? I usually carry two pairs on the AT and switch them out as I need to.
Carrying campshoes to help prevent blisters is a great idea, but I think you can go with something more simple and light than 4oz. Something like this could save some weight there
Also, have you thought about changing from the rain pants to a rain kilt? The zpacks kilts weighs <2oz, and a similar one made from silnylon wouldn't weigh much more. The rain pants may also be working as insulation for you though.Jun 3, 2012 at 5:51 am #1883474
Brian LewisMember
@brianleLocale: Pacific NW
Ditto the Aqua Mira. Note that the real weight you should consider for a filter isn't dry weight, but the weight after you've used it (even if you do your best to get out what water you can).
Ditto also the question about whether this is for a thru, or at least long chunk hike, to which I'd add the question of when you plan to start, maybe even which direction.
Injinji toe socks: I've carried these on thru-hikes for occasional toe blisters, but only for those situations. The catch with these is that they're not that durable, I tend to wear out the ball of the foot in a pair of Injinji's relatively quickly. Something like a fox river brand liner sock lasts quite a long time in comparison.
In terms of whether the list is complete:
How do you plan to carry the iPhone? If it's your camera, you'll want it handy. Putting it in a pack pocket, or ?? I like a neoprene case hanging on a shoulder strap, with the phone in a snack-sized ziplock on wet days.
Stuff sack pillow: you're going pretty light on clothing; will you have enough to put in a stuff sack pillow? OTOH, pillow needs for a hammock hanger are a bit different.
In the context of how lean you're going in other areas, I question the need for rain pants.
Why camp shoes? For some at least (me included), just loosen the laces a bit so they can slip on and off and your trail runners are fine camp shoes. Hardly any creek crossings of note on the AT.
Hard to talk about clothes much without knowing when you're going, but some sort of mittens or gloves perhaps, at least liner gloves. Some sort of warm hat?
Some sort of pack liner, and/or even a very light pack cover — it doesn't look like you're super tight on budget, so look at zpacks for a cuben one perhaps.
I suggest that you plan on carrying a plastic water bottle or two to augment your 2-liter platypus. On occasion this will be helpful to fill it with, and for me at least a 20 oz gatorade bottle is the only 'cup' that I carry.
There are a good few places along the AT where your water source is a fair slog downhill from a shelter. In that context, a second platypus with just a cap is worth carrying. And note that these aren't comfortable to carry uphill when full of water; consider an actual water carrier of some sort. Bringing more water to camp than I figured I needed helped me to rehydrate.
Guidebook pages?
Ask your doctor if s/he will give you a prescription for, I think it's doxycyclene (in case you come down with clear Lyme symptoms). Mine did.
Purell, or the equivalent. Often no water around to wash with Dr. Bronners when you need it.
How do you keep things dry that you don't put in the hammock; hang underneath? A thin black plastic yard waste bag might be handy.
Sewing needle plus dental floss.
I find one of those really light pack towels worth the weight, or at least a cut-down square from one — if for nothing else then to dry out your tarp in the morning before putting it away.
As light as you're going, and as close together as resupply points are on the AT, consider ditching the stove and eating cold. Food items aren't necessarily that much heavier going stoveless, and you likely won't need a lot of food per day when starting out at least.
An impressive list; if you think to do so, please follow up sometime and post the base weight that you actually end up using, and how well all of this works for you.Jun 3, 2012 at 12:20 pm #1883578
Nathan LareBPL Member
I have had really good luck with Hydropel to prevent blisters. I usually put it on my feet in the morning before I start hiking.
http://www.amazon.com/Genesis-C31863-Hydropel-Sports-Ointment/dp/B001FU5CEIJun 3, 2012 at 2:33 pm #1883621
Thank you everyone for the ideas. This list is for a full thru-hike in 2013. I did half of the AT in 2011 from GA to PA with about a 35 lb pack. Almost all of the old items have been replaced with the gear on this list. All of these items have been field tested at least a couple of times.
-The water filter was measured when wet. The weight also includes my main source for hydration. I really enjoy having a tube and bite valve. The filter and connection hoses weigh 3.2oz, bladder with bite valve 4oz, and zip top "dirty" bag weighs 3oz. I like the ability to fill the bladder without opening the pack by using the disconnects. If I went with chemical drops I would only save about 3-4 oz and I really detest the chemical taste (I tried it last year). If I had it to do over again I would go with Sawyer but as you can tell this filter is new.
– I carry The iPhone in a DIY Tyvek pouch that attaches to the shoulder strap of my pack. (weight is included in the phone section) My mom is modeling the empty pouch:
– I will be looking into lighter camp shoes.
– I put the down jacket in the stuff sack pillow, it fits perfectly.
– The down jacket also has a hood but I will consider taking my Montbell fleece beenie.
– Any glove/mitten recommendations?
– The pack is rain proof since it is made out of cuben fiber. I have tested this, contents stay dry. No need for pack cover/liner.
– The rain pants will be used for extra warmth, rain, wind, and trail overgrowth.
– The doxycyclene is a great idea!
– My FAK contains some alcohol wipes. I took Purell last year and never used it.
– Needle and floss are on the list under dental care and FAK.
– I went "cold" last year after Damascus, VA and I just ended up carrying heavier food, like cheese, Cliff bars, and more Snickers. I think I had more energy when I used the stove. I'm also a "slow" hiker and don't resupply as often as most because it takes me an extra day or 2 to get into a town.
– The 4 pairs of socks are part of my blister prevention. It is crucial that I don't wear wet socks. Two pairs of toe sock liners (switch every other day), one pair of smartwool socks (everyday) and the boot socks are just for sleeping. The foot box of my quilt is "snaps" so socks are needed if it's chilly. The gold bond does wonders for my feet too. Since I've switched to trail runners and toe socks I haven't had a blister. (knock on wood)
– Does anyone know the "actual weight" of the Zpacks food bag. I've found that weight varies from what the manufacturers say.
– I left out the weight of the guide book. I will be scanning the 2013 edition of the AWOL Guide and loading the images to my phone as a backup. I will be carrying the book in 4-5 sections. The total book weight is 8oz so I am expected to carry a little under 2oz.
– Good catch on the pack towel! I made this about a week ago. It's 8"x8" Shamwow and I put a button hole on the top corner for hanging from the pack. It weighs 0.5oz. Could I cut it smaller, or is this a good size?
Thanks again for all the recommendations! Keep 'em coming!Jun 3, 2012 at 4:09 pm #1883658
Nicholas MeadorsMember
@nickoliLocale: Teh Front Range
Living in Colorado I have pretty easy access to this stuff, but I'd suggest you check out Bonnie's Balm Healing Salve.
It's pretty much the only ointment/lip balm/moisturizer/burn treatment I carry. I no longer peal AT ALL if I apply it for one or two days after a sunburn, it heals all of my wounds ridiculously fast, it stopped my cracked knuckles from bleeding during the snowboard season, and prevents blisters on my (and Andrew Skurka's) feet. Seriously, great stuff!Jun 4, 2012 at 2:08 pm #1883944
Jason EmerickMember
@jemerickLocale: Mid-Atlantic
I have the Zpacks Roll Top Blast Food Bag which weighs in at 1.38oz (39g) which is a few more grams than listed but when things are made by hand I would expect a little variation from the listed weight. I have used it a couple times so far using it to hold my food and as a bear bag and it has worked great.Jun 8, 2012 at 8:30 am #1885222
I've heard nothing but good things about the Zpacks Blast, roll top, food bag. I ordered mine yesterday!
I'm still looking for lighter camp shoes. I called both Invisible shoes and Bedrock Sandals yesterday. For my size, the soles alone weighed more than 5 oz for both companies. There are some threads about lightweight camp shoes but none mention the Teva Mush flip flops I'm currently using. Any suggestions would be appreciated, especially if they are good for river crossing.Jun 8, 2012 at 5:12 pm #1885381
Bruce ThibeaultBPL Member
@brucetboLocale: New England
Ive been meaning to make something similar to these but havent found the time.
Another member did something similar with a shoe lace and a blue foam pad from WalMart, weighed about an ounce if I remember correctly.Jun 8, 2012 at 5:56 pm #1885385
Chris ScalaMember
I know it's said in every thread about this, but I really don't think camp shoes are necessary if you're hiking in trainers. Just loosen the laces, turn them into slip-ons. It will feel great anyway. I used to be in the "I can't wait to change my shoes" state of mind, but then I got comfortable shoes. Granted my feet still swell and want to breathe, but removing my socks and loosening the shoes feels like a whole new pair anyway.
However if you ARE going to take camp shoes, I think it is absolutely silly to use these scarcely useable "shoe lace + insole" shoes… they will get absolutely disgusting and trashed, barely protect your feet, be impossible to walk in for any long distance, useless in the water, and just be another grimey thing you have to shove into your pack, rather than keep on your feet or outside your shelter.Jun 8, 2012 at 6:16 pm #1885386
Justin BakerBPL Member
@justin_bakerLocale: Santa Rosa, CA
But if your shoes are soaking wet and you don't want to get your sleeping socks wet…Jun 8, 2012 at 6:18 pm #1885387
Chris WBPL Member
@simplespiritLocale: .
But if your shoes are soaking wet and you don't want to get your sleeping socks wet…
1) sleeping sock goes on
2) a bread bag, goretex, or VBL sock goes on over that
3) the shoes go back on
Sleeping socks stay dry. :-)Jun 9, 2012 at 4:57 am #1885464
Seth BrewerBPL Member
@whistlerLocale: www.peaksandvalleys.weebly.com
I used Teva Mush on my A.T thru last year (Heard about the "horse attack girl" through the grapevine) and they worked just fine. I did all the river crossings in my Salomon XA Pro mesh trail runners and only used the teva's for walking around camp. More comfortable and durable than the 3oz. hack jobs with foam and laces that I've seen IMHO. I think you should just stick with what you have.Jun 9, 2012 at 9:28 am #1885492
Brian LewisMember
@brianleLocale: Pacific NW
Again, no significant crossings on the AT, or at least not for me NOBO in 2010, and assuming you take the canoe ride across the Kennebec. I really would not think in terms of river crossings in picking out footwear for the AT. Other trails, it's different; my trail partner almost died on a "creek" crossing starting the CDT in Montana just about a year ago. Still, you just get your shoes wet and then walk them dry.
For wet shoes in camp, ditto the bread bag solution. In colder weather, dry wool socks inside bread bags inside wet shoes certainly can still be cold, but good enough for minimal in-camp stuff. In warmer weather, no worries.
If it's a matter of feet feeling tired at the end of the day, consider starting the trip with two different types of inserts. Perhaps a more supportive insert (think orthodic or off-the-shelf orthodic like superfeet or the like), and then a more cushiony, gel-like insert. Put the latter in part way along the way during the day perhaps, or at least for in-camp.
I predict that if you do this, after the first month or so you'll be happy with just one insert all the time, but before your feet get strong/tough, a second and different type of insole can help the "tired feet" syndrome.
It's always possible that you'll be happy carrying alternate footwear, but in the context of your overall gear list, it strikes me as something you won't end up wanting. Easy to mail home along the way, however. Still, starting out I personally would invest that weight hit in an alternate insole rather than even a very light set of separate camp shoes.Jun 13, 2012 at 12:18 am #1886449
Jeffrey CarmanMember
@jeffrunsLocale: PDX metro
I am not familiar with your particular gravity filter but I don't see why you can't use it like a Sawyer.
My platypus drinking bag does not have a way to hang from a tree limb… yet. I've been looking into adding a string. It works great though and it's fast.Jun 13, 2012 at 1:23 am #1886454
jon frMember
i love these. they hold ZERO water and they're super cozy even with socks on the colder nights. my size 13 way 7.8 for the pair.Jun 14, 2012 at 1:11 pm #1886921
Thank you everyone for your ideas. I'm going to do some experimenting with the shoes. I may try a few weeks without the camp shoes and send them home if I feel comfortable.
My Gravityworks system is set up the same as your Sawyer, I just have the hose disconnected and in "drink mode."
Here is the pony video if anyone is interested… It gets better towards the end :)Jun 20, 2012 at 1:53 pm #1888738
Will TatmanMember
I absolutely love that phone holster.
I entirely advocate the free and cheap usage of tyvek envelopes for DIY pouches/sacks.
feeling inspired to go make hip pouches now, thanks!Jun 27, 2012 at 7:19 pm #1890679
Tim ClearyMember
@hempsteadLocale: Lost
This comes up every few months. This post has a reference to some of the more comprehensive posts on the topic. I am wondering if the Vivos are a good idea.
http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=65593Jun 28, 2012 at 6:16 pm #1890963
Frank DelandMember
@ramblerLocale: On the AT in VA
Bottom insulation is key. It should hanging below the outside of your hammock. All seasons. Crocs are fine camp shoes and for walking through streams. Keep track of your battery life to avoid carrying extras.
check out whiteblaze.net and trailplace.com
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Welcome narnianquilter, whether you have few or many, this is the place for getting those UFO's done. Hugs and smiles, we are happy to have you with us.
Welcome to the Quilting Board!
Welcome narnianquilter, whether you have few or many, this is the place for getting those UFO's done. Hugs and smiles, we are happy to have you with us.
Linda Wedge White
I believe UFOs are like scraps, ferns and dust bunnies. Once you get two, they send spores out into the air and more just happen anywhere the spores meet.
Ditto to Nancy's post!! I agree completely with everything she said, about everyone's finishes!
splendid, just splendid! (my fingers typed splenda both times?? ) ;0))
I did manage to get a small wall hanging done, the center was an embroidered cross that was framed with purple batiks. It was given away before I remembered I hadn't taken a picture. The purples were from my scraps I have left from doing my purple gumball quilt.
I have 3 more to finish, these are gifts for special speakers at my Eastern Star meetings. I will get a picture of the next ones I complete.
Cindy R in Dallas, TX
"My day is not complete until I play with fabric in some manner......whether be sewing, cutting or just fondling for a new project."
I'm not sure if this qualifies as a UFO - I made it last year using quilt as you go so all that needed doing was the binding. It's taken me six months to sew the binding on, but I'm so pleased that it's finished at last.
Rose--very pretty quilt. Good job on getting the binding done! What method of quilt as you go did you use?
Well I found this thread 2 months late...but that's okay as I didn't finish and UFOs....and I have SO many.
I think my first challenge is to get organized, find them all, count them and finish something small for March.
That is my personal challenge.....now I am cringing....so much to go thru......okay tonight tonight I will do something tonight! Wish me luck!
Ludlowquiltandsew....very nice!
I know I missed lots of other finished projects with 50 pages....BUT HERE'S A BIG WOOHOW!! for everyone who did finish some projects.
PokerDiva....lovely quilt


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#11 Fri 25 Jul 08 8:58pm
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Re: Vegetables and fruits that we have forgotten about....
1) I don't know what is cardoon, but may be this is the same?? http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&a … rch+Images
tell me, plz, if it is the same (i cant translate the word 'cardoon' into my language/ I'm not sure that it is same from my link).
2) i haven't seen here anyone use Nettle for food.
In my country it is popular put into the 'Borscht'. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borscht ). It is common, really.
Also i know some people add nettle into the pesto and polenta.
#12 Fri 25 Jul 08 9:14pm
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Re: Vegetables and fruits that we have forgotten about....
assmark: I've been enjoying your recent blog photos!
Here is a photo of the plant. I've seen cardoon plants used as ornamental plants in flower gardens in France, the leaves are showy, spikey and silver.
The stalk is eaten. It looks like a large celery stalk. I've seen recipes for it in Italian cookbooks and haven't tried it, supposedely it tastes a little like lemon and artichoke.
I love Russian borscht! If you have a recipe and the time, please share one! I had no idea nettles were used in it.
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#13 Fri 25 Jul 08 10:24pm
- Member Occupation Jornalism
- From Brasília - Brazil
- Member since Wed 25 Jun 08
Re: Vegetables and fruits that we have forgotten about....
The Flower of the Thistle/Cardoon is born spontaneously in Portugal and other Mediterranean zones as well as in the north of Africa and Argentina. June, July and August are the only months where it is in flower and therefore capable to be used for the coagulation of milk.
The cheese production becomes all during the year, therefore the cheese makers have to store the thistle that goes losing quality with passing of the time. To another option he is to buy the plant the prices very raised. Traditionally, flower to the shade is dried to it and is produced later a watery trade bill that if adds to milk.
The part of the responsible plant for the coagulation is the flower, of tubular form and purple color, that great concentration of the coagulant substance contains the enzyme cinarase. The infusion of thistle/cardoon flower, previously prepared, is launched in warm milk (35 - 40� C).
For use of the thistle a salt infusion is made (20 the 35 g/liter of milk) and the flower of the thistle/cardoon dehydrated (lilac part of the plant) in the amount that can vary in function of the force or coagulation power of the plant, on average 1 the 2,5 g for liter of milk. The temperature for addition of the infusion is of 28 - 30�C and must be kept while the coagulation of milk occurs. One known type of cheese produced with the flower of the thistle is the cheese of the Mountain range (Portugal).
#14 Fri 25 Jul 08 10:55pm
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- From Germany
- Member since Mon 13 Mar 06
Re: Vegetables and fruits that we have forgotten about....
Every few years they suddenly "remember" an old veggie:
pumpkin/sqash (when halloween became popular in the late 90s and when the hokkaido variety came on the market)
wild garlic (B�rlauch) (the market was so flooded with that....)
ruccola: now that it has a cool Italian name people eat it a lot, while the good old "Rauke" has been mostly forgotten.
This is just to give an idea of some of the retro-food crazes of the last 10 years.
Slowly but surely all kinds of root vegetables are coming back: swede was first, now parsnips, turnips, teltower r�bchen, jerusalem artichokes, red beets (fresh, leaves still attached)...
(In Germany especially swede was very unpopular with the older generations, as there was the "Steckr�benwinter" of 1917 (?) when food supplies where down because of the war, and then there were similar winters in the second war, when the options were swede or "Schlodderkapps" (Kappes = slang for cabbage, schlodder = slang for something as textureless and flavorless as it sounds). Left a trauma on 2 1/2 generations....
Cabbages too: in the old times usually cooked to death (resulting in said "Schlodderkapps"). Somewhat unpopular with the yuppie generation. Now coming back with newer fresher cooking methods. (Turns out I do like cabbage a lot after all if my Mom is not the one cooking it )
celeriac. It's used in Germany for soups and stews instead of celery (which is a novelty here). As a vegetable it has been neglected.
Any varieties of very common veggies have been mostly forgotten and some are now coming back: purple potatoes, odd shaped and yellow tomatoes, greengages, all kinds of salad greens (that don't grow a big head), fresh spinach (my mom had fresh spinach for the first time in her life on her 59th birthday - only knew canned or frozen spinach till then....)
Others seem to get less and less common: apricots (increasingly difficult to get other than dry or canned), goose berries, etc.
Blackberries are more and more treated a weed - and a weed only by many people. I admit they easily become weeds, but my Granddad kept a neat hedge of them and I could die for them. Dandelion, sorrel, and stinging nettles are almost forgotten foods. - Anything that grows wild has mostly left the meal plans of the post WWII generations. Hope that more of them will be rediscovered.
Even more "forgotten" fruits and veggies are typical garden fruits that you can hardly buy, and could hardly buy ever: blackcurrants, whitecurrants, yellow cherries, mirabelle plums, ....
Luckily the organic food movements have started to bring some veggies back. Especially regional foods that big supermarkets did not stock. But even they are starting to have rosehip jam. Sea-buckthorn (?) / "Sanddorn" juice. More and more elderberry or even elderflower products - juice, cordial etc. Expecting them to sell sloe stuff soon...
#15 Fri 25 Jul 08 11:53pm
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Re: Vegetables and fruits that we have forgotten about....
I don't know if this is an old berrie or a new crossbreed but i just purchased a pint of Josta's at the farmers market... It is like a cross between a gooseberry and a black currant.. I am currant}Ly trying to figure out something to make with them.. very very tart and almost has a wild sour grape taste . maybe a pie or some preserves. I was considering also adapting Eddies sour cherry cordial recipe and doing a josta cordial version as well .
Only a fool argues with a skunk, a mule or a cook. { cowboy saying}
#16 Sat 26 Jul 08 4:30am
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- From Toronto, Canada
- Member since Sat 23 Feb 08
Re: Vegetables and fruits that we have forgotten about....
Fan@Madeira wrote:
Hi Jamie/Everyone,
This is my first message since I registered and I am still trying to get the hang of how this works... please bear with me.
On the matter of forgotten vegetable and fruits, there are a few here in Madeira...maybe not forgotten, but certainly strange to other parts of Europe.
We have a fruit called "pitanga" - I believe the correct translation would be suriname cherry. It grows in Brazil and here. Has an acid taste and is absolutely amazing as a dessert topping/coulis or used to make a chilled pudding. If anyone is interested in a recipe...if of course you can get the fruit, I'd be happy to oblige...
We also have another strange fruit called "ara�al". I'm not even sure of the Portuguese spelling (I could not find the word in the dictionary) and can terefore not give a translation. It is larger than the "pitanga", more of a yellow colour and sweeter.
Another fruit largely eaten here around this time of year comes from a cactus and is called "tabaibos". Hard to peel without getting a prickle caught in your finger...
As for veg, here we grow and eat a lot of "pimpinela" or chu chu.
Hey, my in-laws tried to grow an "aracal" tree here in Canada, needless to say it did not do well...there are aracais (is that the plural??) in the Azores too..
#17 Sat 26 Jul 08 11:44am
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- From Nova Scotia, Canada
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Re: Vegetables and fruits that we have forgotten about....
Well you might be amazed but around here the broad bean is a forgotten veg, or almost forgotten anyway. I had never eaten them and I can't recall seeing them in the supermarkets. After watching the episode on beans and especially the "Incredible Smashed Peas and Fava Beans on Toast" I had to grow some. I understand now why they have fallen from favour. I had more pest issues with them than any other plant I have ever grown BUT I did make the Peas and Beans on Toast last evening for a light meal, it was fabulous. I can't wait to try more recipes with them now. I am enjoying the flavour and I will grow them again. Now out to wash the plants again...
#18 Sat 26 Jul 08 12:24pm
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Re: Vegetables and fruits that we have forgotten about....
marciacrg wrote:
One known type of cheese produced with the flower of the thistle is the cheese of the Mountain range (Portugal).
that's fascinating Marcia - I'm going to look for cardoon-cheese next time I visit Portugal! - thanks
SusanneH wrote:
Sea-buckthorn (?) / "Sanddorn" juice....
Susanne - it's called Sanddorn in Germany? We got "Tyrni-mehu" in Finland that's supposed to be from sea-buckthorn berries (Tyrni). It's supposed to have great medicinal qualities and the most vitamin C of any fruit or berry. We've often looked for it elsewhere, now we know what to look for in Germany- thanks! (by the way it's also the sourest juice on the planet - must be mixed with water and maybe sugar to be palatable, a fact I discovered only after drinking it straight from the bottle!
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#19 Sat 26 Jul 08 1:56pm
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- From Northern Victoria,Australia
- Member since Thu 12 Apr 07
Re: Vegetables and fruits that we have forgotten about....
I pick and cook stinging nettles and dandelion leaves are often in our salads .I'm growing a tuber called Oca at the moment ,an ancient South American potato-like plant .And cardoons are seen in a lot of gardens here but are considered a pest because of the tremendous seed production .I've cooked the stalks and prepared the choke like artichoke but fiddlier .
What about meat ? Anyone still eating hares ?? -,bloody pest around here eating my newly planted trees . And I've got some recipes for sparrows done like quail , and a blackbird pie , and grilled larks , and a pate made of thrush and pigeon which is a cypriot recipe .
#20 Sat 26 Jul 08 3:08pm
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Re: Vegetables and fruits that we have forgotten about....
Hello, Fan@Madeira
It was nice to find someone here from Portugal/Madeira.
The fruit that you call �ara�al� is, actually, �ara�a� and it�s one type of a Brazilian guavo; there are all sorts of guavos, small, bigger, sweeter, bitter, white, red, different shapes, etc.; in Portuguese it�s known as �goiaba�. In Angola, they are big, red and very sweet. We also make jam from guavos, which is delicious together with cottage cheese and banana. Yummy, yummy�
�Pitanga�, or accordingly to the translation is, as you say, �Surinam Cherry�, a red and angular berry, bittersweet flavoured fruit.
�Chuchu�, known as �shaya-root, chay-root, chay, choy� is a very common Brazilian vegetal, which, as they say have, is very good to your health, for it has diuretic, cardiovascular and anti-inflammatory properties.
�The chayote (Sechium edule), also known as tayota, choko, chocho, chow-chow, christophine or merliton, is an edible plant that belongs to the gourd family Cucurbitaceae along with melons, cucumbers and squash.
The plant has large leaves that form a canopy over the fruit. The vine is grown on the ground or more commonly on trellises. (�) Although most people are familiar only with the fruit, the root, stem, seeds, and leaves are all edible.
The fruit does not need to be peeled and can be eaten raw in salads. It can also be boiled, stuffed, mashed, baked, fried, or pickled. Both the fruit and the seed are rich in amino acids and vitamin C.
The tuberous part of the root is starchy and is both eaten by humans and used as cattle fodder.
The leaves and fruit have diuretic, cardiovascular and anti-inflammatory properties, and a tea made from the leaves has been used in the treatment of arteriosclerosis and hypertension, and to dissolve kidney stones.� (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chayote).
Anyway, you all can read more about these fruits and vegetables in the links bellow.
http://images.google.com.br/images?gbv= … 3%A7%C3%A1
http://images.google.com.br/images?hl=p … &gbv=2
http://www.papayatreenursery.com/galler … itemId=608
Best regards to you all


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thinning the herd to concentrate on popular calibers in demand
smart move
i don't know if this is news or not.
pretty damned odd given the demand and high prices their shit has been getting.
thinning the herd to concentrate on popular calibers in demand
smart move
Sprat and sprat1 are one and the same.
Read the link. THERE IS NO PROBLEM.
Eh doesn't effect me much. I like Hornady ammo don't get me wrong I just have an issue paying a 5th the price of the gun for a box of ammo.
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?" -Thomas Jefferson-
"Our rights come from our humanity and may not be legislated away -- not by a vote of Congress, not by the consensus of our neighbors, not even by agreement of all Americans but one." Judge Andrew P. Napolitano
Quoted from the link you posted. My highlights added.No need to panic, no conspiracy here to deprive people of ammunition or bullets. Just a sound business decision to focus on the demand for more popular ammunition and bullets.In order to increase deliveries of its most popular types of ammunition and bullets, Hornady announced that it will temporarily suspend production of 150 bullet types and 150 ammo types. IMPORTANT: These bullet and ammo products are NOT being discontinued. Rather, these less-popular, suspended items will simply not be produced for the remainder of 2013. By doing this, Hornady can reduce tool/machinery changes and thereby increase production of products in highest demand. On July 2nd, Hornady issued this statement:
Life's a crap shoot. Sometimes you say crap and sometimes you shoot. Make sure that you don't mess those 2 up!
22,9mm,380,45,40,38spc Something up because every round in that list is off the shelf,they are all in demand.Hornandy was most likely threatened with the IRS like Gibson Guitar.
Never mind that every ammo/component manufacturer does this. Hornady's just the only one to give us fair warning.


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08:00 10th November 2013
Clive Smith's story
There have been many cheers and much applause at Molineux so far this season, as Kenny Jackett takes a fresh and revamped Wolves side into a new era.
And hopefully there will be many, many more to come.
But it is unlikely there will be another ovation packed with as much feeling and emotion as when Sapper Clive Smith delivered the matchball to the centre circle for last weekend's game with Stevenage.
To mark Wolves' annual Armed Forces fixture, lifelong fan Clive, for the second year in succession, was a special guest at Molineux to not only deliver the ball but also raise awareness of the Royal British Legion's Poppy Appeal.
And if the applause which greeted his entrance and half time on-pitch interview was laced with the pride and admiration of the Wolves public, that was in stark contrast to the eerie quiet of the impeccably-observed minute's silence, broken only by the sound of flags blowing against flagpoles in the Autumn wind.
One of those special Molineux moments, when thousands upon thousands come together to remember that there is indeed more to life than football.
"For me it was unbelievable to walk out at Molineux both last year and this," says Clive.
"My Season Ticket was in the South Bank – I spent 15 years of my life there religiously, like a church!
"That's where my heart lies – and to hear them shouting my name was unbelievable.
"I bleed gold and black, and that reception I received last weekend will stay with me forever."
While a walking embodiment – quite literally - of the courage and commitment which typify Britain's military, there is of course more to Clive's story than purely serving his country, which included two tours of Afghanistan.
Because it was on his final tour, back in 2010, that whilst leading the search for IED's (Improvised Explosive Devices), he did – in his own words – "find what I was looking for".
Only problem was that he found the device, impossible to detect due to having been placed at a considerable depth some 18 months previously, by stepping on it.
As a result Clive is now a double leg amputee, continuing to receive rehabilitation at the Defence Medical Unit at Headley Court in Surrey.
It was not long after leaving Cannock Chase High School that Clive embarked on a military career.
A talented footballer, he completed some coaching badges before deciding that wasn't really for him, and whilst working part-time at Pizza Hut in Cannock he visited the Recruitment Office in Stoke.
The pursuit of a career in which he could still "be sporty" and play football at a decent level offered up the Royal Engineers as the corps of choice, and after flying through the tests the real training began at the Gibraltar Barracks in Camberley.
Clive's first posting came with the 9 Parachute Squadron at RAF Woodbridge in Suffolk, where his four years included pre-deployment training in Kenya.
And it was in 2008 that he embarked on his first trip to Afghanistan, deployed on a six-month mission which he labelled 'the Call of Duty tour'.
"It was Operation Herrick 8, and we were infantry support going around with 2 Para (regiment)," he recalls.
"It was basically blowing up anything that moved, running around the desert in floppy hats and baseball caps and body armour looking like the guys from Call of Duty."
On completing four years with the 9 Para, Clive changed his speciality and took a different path down the route of EOD (Explosive Ordnance Disposal) joining the 61 Field Squadron, part of the 33 Engineer Regiment.
After six further months of rigorous training there was further pre-deployment exercise before a second tour of Afghanistan soon came around.
On September 15th, 2010, Clive's favourite football team were in between fixtures in Fulham and Tottenham as Mick McCarthy's men tried to establish themselves in their second season in the Premier League.
For Clive himself, he was setting out on the tour that would change his life.
And only he can tell that story.
"We were the first EOD team to land as part of the battle group and were the lead team in Helmand at the time so were checking over all the equipment and making sure all the kit was serviceable for when the rest of the teams came over," he says.
"We got the 'intel' from the Afghan National Army that there was an IED factory in Nahr-e-Saraj which had been narrowed down to a mile square.
"We were called in to find it basically and had the cordons out with the infantry to make sure we didn't have any incoming fire while we were conducting searches.
"We were out about 4 o'clock in the morning and it was all routine – we had crossed over a river and done all the drills correctly.
"I was the lead man that day because I'd taken it on myself really to lead the way; I had cleared the route and gone through five hours or so unscathed but there were some local nationals acting suspiciously so we knew we were on the right track.
"We had narrowed it down to two compounds of where it was going to be.
"I spoke to my team commander and prepped to cross the river and avoid entering the compound via the front as it was likely to be booby-trapped.
"We were going through the area and leading through it with the search equipment and the device was just not detected.
"As it transpired that was no fault of the kit – it had been buried that deep and 18 months previously that there was no way search equipment could detect it.
"In that job you do rely a lot on your training and on your skills but there is always the involvement of luck as well.
"And that was the day that my luck ran out....."
To outsiders it is impossible to imagine the scene after such an incident and the emotions and reactions of those involved.
To those on the field including Clive, who by this time had lost one leg above the knee and his other below – which was also unfortunately beyond saving – it was a case of getting on with the job.
He continues: "So yes I'd gone out to find an IED and find it I did – I got blown 12 foot in the air and landed on my head, which is thick enough anyway.
"Fortunately I landed a foot away from the river we'd just crossed because if I'd ended up in there I'd have been swept away.
"As soon as I hit the deck the military instinct kicked in, and it was a case of finding out what had happened, who was injured and thinking about all the contact reports.
"I'd been leading and was trying to orchestrate what was going on and shouted: "Who's been hit?"
"There was dust everywhere and no one could see anything.
"I remember trying to stand up and I just fell over and thought: 'that's odd'.
"And then one of the lads screamed, "It's you, stay down!"
"I didn't believe him really and then the dust started to settle and the adrenalin wore off and I looked down and thought ****.
"It kicked in as soon as I saw the extent of my injuries – that's what made it real.
"I saw what had happened and realised this was pretty bad.
"I quickly went into standard operating procedure – I had tourniquets in both shoulder pockets which I self-applied along with morphine.
"I shouted to the others to double check everything and not come to me initially in case there was a secondary device.
"As soon as they got to me they were all over me like a rash, and at the end of the day those lads saved my life.
"I did as much as I could but I was bleeding out and they were straight on top of it."
As an Apache helicopter circled nearby to serve as a deterrent against enemy forces it was on board a Chinook that Clive's survival mission really stepped up.
But not before he had managed to land one final blow – on the doctor trying to treat him!
"My last memory of Afghanistan was of a 6ft 8in South African doctor saying he was going to put a massive needle in my chest!
"I told him if he came any nearer I would chin him – it's fair to say the adrenalin was flowing and I was high as a kite off the morphine and felt I could take on the world, even after losing my legs.
"He came towards me with this needle and I put one on him, and so after that the rest of the lads had to lie on my arms.
"They injected me with something - to this day I don't know what it was - straight through the breastbone, the first stage of inducing me into a coma.
"And that was the last knowledge I had of Afghanistan.
"Did I have time to think about everything else and my family when it happened? I think I was probably swept up in the moment of trying to survive.
"When the rest of the lads were on top of it and I was on the stretcher there was a bit of time, not so much to reflect, but quickly wonder what was going to happen next.
"I do remember saying to my mate that my days of skipping contests and egg and spoon races were over.
"I couldn't really allow myself to get too deep at that stage as I didn't know what the next 40 minutes would hold, let alone an hour, two hours, four hours and beyond."
There is of course another story to the men and women who serve their country in dangerous locations and troublesome situations – those family and friends they leave behind.
There is almost constant banter interspersed in this interview between Clive and his Dad Steve, like all good father/son relationships, and clearly the support of family and friends has played a major part in his recovery.
However, for a family with a loved one out fighting in Afghanistan, the nagging fear of the very worst that can happen must surely never be far away.
And so it was that news was swiftly relayed back from Helmand Province on that October morning just over three years ago.
"On the day that it happened I was out and my partner Allison was at home getting ready to go into work in the afternoon," Dad Steve explains.
"These two blokes came walking up the drive dressed in suits and she wouldn't open the door, until they said they were from the British Army.
"Like me, Allison had worked in the Police, and also as a Family Liaison Officer, but they couldn't tell her anything as she wasn't the next of kin.
"The only concession was that they said it wasn't the worst, and they had to come and find me, and when I saw Allison's ashen face I knew it wasn't good.
"The first thing I said was that I didn't need to know who they were but I know what they were and I asked: "is he dead?"
"The reply was 'no', and then we were able to sit down and have a chat.
"The medical team did such a great job, and the average recovery time from an incident to the operating table in Camp Bastion is 45 minutes.
"That is inside the 'golden hour' which they talk about, and that is why they have saved as many soldiers as they have.
"In World War Two, the Falklands, and probably even Iraq, Clive wouldn't have stood a chance with the combination of shock and blood loss.
"But with the surgeons getting to work within an hour, and then doing what they do with two hours of table time, they were able to stabilise him, and then he was back in the 'Herc' and to the UK where they could really spend some time on him.
"When we got to the QE (Birmingham's Queen Elizabeth Hospital) and Clive was admitted, his captain was there to explain everything, still in his full desert fatigues with sand on his boots.
"He and his team were then straight back to Birmingham and on the plane back to Afghanistan."
Clive's recovery was swift, remarkably so.
For days he was kept in an induced coma, overall he was in the QE Hospital for five weeks, but even before Christmas arrived, he had already kicked off his rehabilitation.
Since 2010 that rehabilitation has continued with the long journeys to and from Headley, and recently he picked up his new Genium prosthetics.
The physical rehabilitation is one thing, mentally and psychologically is quite clearly another.
"Everyone has good days and bad days and days when you wake up and say I can't be bothered with this and you have to write it off," says Clive.
"It took me a while, longer than I thought it would, to get my head in gear and realise that no one else was going to do it for me.
"And then came one of those 'Eureka' moments, when I woke up one day and realised I had two choices.
"To spend the rest of my life in a chair doing little bits and pieces here and there or get on with it, 'man up' and just do as much as I can while I can.
"I'm not 30 yet – I might be going grey but I had a hard paper round – and have just got to think it could be worse.
"Yes, whenever anyone asks how I remain positive, I just say it could be worse.
"It could have been two legs and an arm, all four, a head injury, spinal injury, internal injury – I might not even have made it back.
"It could always have been worse, and you do get great support from family and friends.
"I'm still serving now and the banter between the lads keeps us all going.
"At Headley with the other amputees there's plenty of mickey-taking and a single leg amputee will get told he's got a flesh wound and a single amputee below the knee? Well that's just a scratch.
"You bounce off each other and that's the way you find to deal with it really.
"For me, the best way is to say. 'what next'? What's the next challenge?"
It is that positive attitude in the face of such adversity which not only drew such heartfelt applause from all sides of Molineux last weekend but has also helped Clive's family and friends through some difficult days.
Clearly there will be further tough times ahead, many more good days and bad, but the response in the three years since sustaining the injury has inspired those closest to him as well as others from further afield.
"Clive's attitude has made our dealing with it a lot easier," says Steve.
"If we'd had to pick him up and keep on at him because he was sitting on his backside and doing nothing it would have been difficult.
"It sounds almost dismissive but I think everyone knows that in Clive's situation, and he did too, right from the very start it is almost like it's an occupational hazard.
"Everyone knows what they are getting themselves into, they put themselves in the Lion's Den and it's not like stepping out onto Waterloo Road and getting knocked over by a bus and it not being expected.
"I remember talking to him in the early says in the QE (hospital) and he said that when he looked at it, everything in the fullness of time will be 'do-able', except from playing football.
"And I told him that was debateable in the first place!
"You hear all these horror stories about the dark days and we're told the average show time for Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder is 13 years.
"But we've not seen anything like that and while we try and help him along and we are always there he doesn't want us fussing too much.
"The phrase we use together is that he needs to stand on his own two feet! And that's what he wants to do as well.
"We're always on hand though whether in person or at the other end of a phone, and I remember the one time I had to go and get him some shopping done in the morning because he'd forgotten to charge his legs up overnight!
"Of course we are very proud of him, and it was very emotional to see him walk out at Molineux and get that reception.
"I'm more of a Wolves follower than a fan, but my allegiance is here, and I know how much it meant to Clive.
"When the South Bank kicked up like they did it was a bit special.
"We've always said about Wolves fans though, whatever their feelings their hearts are all in the right place and I thought the minute's silence was impeccable, and that the players and fans from both clubs did everyone proud."
As the 'Face' of the British Legion's Poppy Appeal over the last year – "not sure why they'd want my ugly mug" is Clive's typically self-effacing response – he has mingled with the great and the good at events both in London and at Headley Court.
The list of royalty includes – without the titles! - William, Kate, Harry (twice), Charles, Camilla and Anne, as well as celebrities and entertainers from Pixie Lott to Alesha Dixon, Katie Price to Barbara Windsor, and Christian Bale to Warwick Davis.
"I'd have to say a lot of that pales into significance compared to this place," says Clive, with a nod towards the Molineux pitch.
"You could take everything away and as long as I've got this place I'd be happy.
"It has been a great experience working with the Legion though, and they have done so much for me.
"If what I have done with them manages to make a few more people remember to buy a poppy, or raise that awareness just a little bit more, then hopefully it will have helped."
Oh it will Clive. It most certainly will.
But what next for Sapper Smith?
Today he will stand with family and friends to mark the remembrance in his home town of Cannock, but tomorrow his battle goes on.
He has two further admissions at Headley Court and is due to be fitted with running blades in January.
Then, on March 31, he is – in his words – due to be "cut loose" from service when he is officially discharged from duty.
Time for a new chapter. At the age of 28, a new beginning.
"Yes it's off into the big, wide world to try and find a job," he says with a smile.
"When I joined up I wouldn't have anticipated this day coming for maybe another ten years or so and with what has happened my options at employment have been diminished somewhat!
"At the moment it's a case of waiting and seeing, and maybe trial and error looking at different things because I literally have no idea what I am going to do.
"It's a very competitive job market, so it's a case of getting out there, trying to sell myself as best as possible and finding something that is suitable.
"I'll have a pension so finance isn't the big issue and I've spoken to my military liaison about different courses and qualifications I could go for.
"But whatever happens to me, and even with this attention, I ain't gonna change!
"I am who I am, and I could be a billionaire, I could be skint on my backside, but I'd still be the same type of person.
"Things have changed for me physically but they will never change for me mentally – it's your personality that defines who you are as a human being.
"What is it they call it? Positive mental attitude. That's what it is about for me now, staying focused, and just carrying on being a pain and doing what I'm doing."
The man who first watched Wolves in the friendly game with Honved in 1993 and has since enjoyed and endured plenty of footballing ups and downs including the play-off final victory against Sheffield United, counts Steve Bull as his hero.
But when it comes to true heroes, both Bully himself and those Wolves and Stevenage players who broke away from their warm up to gather around - and applaud Clive - at Molineux last weekend, would undoubtedly come up with a far different opinion.....
*Click here to view Clive Smith delivering the matchball at Molineux.
*The poppy shirts worn by Wolves players in the games with Stevenage and Oldham will be auctioned off via the club's EBay site to raise money for the Royal British Legion. Keep an eye on the Official Website next week.
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I have had one for years and have had to almost hold it together with wire and tape - the pan has lost all its non stick and the paddle is the same - despite the fact that it made bread perfectly well for ages -the fact is, it needed replacement parts pretty soon after we bought it .As Breville offer no after sales spares for this model and you cant chase any down anywhere my advise is buy a breadmaker from a company that at least offers you spare pans and paddles as believe me these are the parts that will always go first - I have been on so many sites looking for spares only to discover that many others are looking for exactly the same as I am so it would appear a very common fault -So sad as it is to say look to another company and see what spares they offer you first before you buy
Although it´s lovely to make fresh, homemade bread from scratch, the process can be a bit messy and tedious - the same goes for dough for pizza and the like. This breadmaker has made the process so much easier, and it´s the work of minutes really to put in the ingredients and set the machine to the correct functions, then sit back and wait for the bread to be ready (a couple of hours normally, although it can be less). You can also set it to a delay function, so it comes on at, say, six in the morning, and makes the bread while you´re sleeping, so you wake up to a batch of piping-hot, just-made bread.
At about fifty-sixty pounds, this isn´t the cheapest piece of kitchen equipment you´ll buy, and in a way it´s a lot for what´s just a labour-saving device, but if you´ve got the spare money, or you like to make a lot of bread, it´s a worthwhile investment that we´ve never had problems with. Also, you save money on shop-bought bread!
The machine is very easy to operate, and comes with a booklet that explains all the different settings and gives you some ideas for different recipes to try out. Although you can set it to make the dough and cook it, I like to just let it make the dough, then knock it into shape, add toppings like seeds etc. and put it on a baking tray in the oven, which I think gives a nicer finish. Obviously, as this is fresh bread, it doesn´t keep for long, and goes dry quite quickly, so it´s best to eat it on the day you make it, although you can freeze loaves if you make several at once.
There really aren´t any disadvantages to this product - it´s very easy to clean, as the "basket" that you put the ingredients in pops out easily, and the blades that stir the mixture are easy to remove and clean. Everything is very quick and easy, and it beeps to let you know when it´s done, so you can leave it to do its own thing.
Overall, I think this is an excellent purchase that makes cooking so much easier - it´s so much nicer to have your own homemade bread, and the ingredients are so cheap. For quality and ease of use, I would certainly recommend this product.
After expressing an interest in making bread, this machine was given to me by a friend who had upgraded hers, and I must say I am very pleased with this machine. It isn't overly complicated and just makes great, fresh bread every time.
I have had a look at other breadmakers and have owned a few in the past and I must say it's very good value as it is in the lower price range of breadmakers, but this certainly doesn't mean that it isn't as good.
The machine has a range of setting including white light, medium and dark, wheat light, medium and dark, french loaf, rapid rise, and dough. There are also size options which give you a guide but all take the same time.
I love the fact that you can see the dough through the top, you can see how the bread is getting on.
The machine is quite big, so does need a fair bit of space to sit in if like me you've always got it out! It is a bit of a bulky workhorse but very reliable.
The manual has a lot of really delicious recipes inside too, so you'll never be stuck for something to make!
My one small niggle is that the metal tin can be a bit of a pain to get into the machine, and it is quite difficult to get the bread out of it.
Other than that it is a lovely machine and you really won't look back once you've had the smell of fresh bread wafting around in your kitchen!
The Breville Breadmaster is a very good breadmaker, especially for the price.
Breadmaking in general
Baking your own bread is one of the most satisfying things you can do in the kitchen, although if you want to do this the old-fashioned way, either you need the patience of a saint, or you can somehow fit your routine around a process that takes around 6 hours in all. This is where breadmakers come in!
With all breadmakers, the results are never quite as good as the real thing - the heating tends to lead to a thicker, dense crust than bakery-bought bread and the metal beater gets cooked into the bread, unless it's a very expensive make, but it's streets ahead of the supermarket plastic-packed offerings and perfecting your recipe is a fun challenge in itself!
The Breville Breadmaster
Out of the box it's as you would expect and no more - the electronic display is very basic and consists of red LED lights and an alarm-clock LED timer section, which seems a bit last century now. However, we're dealing with bread here, so in some ways the less processing power, the more charmingly simple.
The bread tin and detachable metal beater are both made out of good, thick metal and the tin itself has a handle for lifting it in and out of the machine (careful - it still gets very hot though!).
There is a fairly small range of settings you can choose from (small, medium, large and dark, medium, light) which determine the cooking speed for the bread. The simplicity here is nice as after all it is up to the breadmaker to take care of anything more than that! There are also dough and cook functions, but I can't say I've tried them.
One of the best settings, though, is the delay timer, which allows you to wake up to the smell of freshly baked bread. What could be better?
One handy tip, though, is to always add the water first as this avoids there being corners of the bread which remain as flour as they don't get mixed with the other ingredients at the beating stage. This certainly isn't a fault specific to the breadmaster, and there are plenty of discussion boards on the web with this kind of advice.
The results are usually very good indeed and consistent. If it goes wrong, it is most likely down to human error than the machine. The guide also comes with a very useful "troubleshooting" section which allows you to analyse where you went wrong, if the finished product isn't how you hoped.
On my 60th birthday my son gave me a Breville breadmaker ,like his own.It did not rise the bread and was replaced.I did not get on too well wirh the replacement but did not like to complain again.Now 8 years later I tried again and realise that it mixes the dough ,but not no heat comes on to rise the dough and I believe that there should be a fan going.I think perhaps there was a bad batch made and my son was ripped off. I have a breadmaker looking as good as new but of no use.Can I buy some part to fix this problem or do I remain a non-believer in bread machines? I CAN make bread by hand/do I put this lovely clean machine in the bin? and condemn Breville for ever!Mabel Ronald at The Old Church,Perthshire FK20 8RX
I have a Breville Bakers Oven and I find it very useful. It only has one kneading hook and produces vertical rather than horizontal loaves (which some people say are better), but I find it works fine for me. It's very easy to use, almost foolproof and takes only 5 minutes to get the ingredients ready.
It doesn't come with many recipies though, and most of the recipies given use quite unusal ingredients or are gluten -free so I don't use them. It would be very useful if you are allergic to gluten or yeast. It should have more normal recipes, I think.
Anyhow you can also make pizza dough and buns from it -very easy and delicious.
The only drawback is that the bread doesn't keep fresh for more than a day or two. I get round this by putting it in the freezer and then just microwave or toast it and it's as good as new.
You can also make jam with this if you are hardworking enough! It also has a rapid bread function which turns out a loaf in half the time, but it's not worth it. The bread is doughy and heavy and not nice.
In summary it's worth the money. I've had mine for 3 years and have used it about once a week to once a fortnight since.
Breville B10 Bread Machine
I brought this bread machine about a year and a half ago now, and i love it! This cost me £50.00 from Debenhams (and i used a £50 gift voucher my boss gave me for Christmas!), and is Stainless Steel. There are 2 kneading hooks inside the removable bread tin, which can hold a 2lb loaf. I wanted a bread machine for ages, and got jealous when my step dad had his for Christmas! I had to spend my vouchers on a bread machine, and i had to make sure mine was better than his!!! My step dad's bread machine cost a lot more than mine did, but it only has 1 kneading hook inside. The bread comes out stodgy and heavy, not at all appealing. The bread from my bread machine is light, fluffy and always has a perfect crust. There is a fruit and nut beep, so that you can add extras without them being chopped up too much, the dried fruit stays whole because it's added in at the last minute before the final kneading / rising cycle. It has 2 size settings for a smaller or larger loaf, and it has 3 crust settings for wither a light, medium or dark crust. There are a load of settings on this as well. You can create your own bread making cycle, make cakes, jam, a dough cycle so that you can make rolls - create the dough in the machine, then take it out after the last rise and bake it in the oven. This also lets you make different shaped loaves, rather than the "typical" square loaf that a bread machine produces. It has a Bake only cycle, so that you can have pre-prepared bread or cake dough to cook. It also has Gluten Free, Sweet, Quick, Whole Wheat, French and Super Quick cycles, as well as the Basic bread cycle. If you are buying your first bread machine, or even buying a replacement, i would definately recommend this!
My mum bought me this spectacular piece of machinery for Christmas. She had one herself and made the mistake of offering me a slice of freshly baked bread with home-made raspberry jam. From then on, I constantly nagged at her to make me a loaf. She soon tired of this and decided to buy me one, in the hope I'd leave her alone. I believe this breadmaker retails between anything from £50 - £60 and is available in many stores like Argos, Makro, etc. I don't know the exact cost as I mentioned before it was a lovely gift from my mum. Breville have a long-standing high reputation in kitchen appliances and I am pleased to say that this product is no different and it lives up to its name, and yes it does what it says on the box. This bread maker doesn't look at all different to any other bread makers on the market. It is white, square in shape, has buttons on the top and a window for you to watch the whole bread-making process. To this day I still enjoy watching the dough being kneaded and pummeled. I must get out more. This bread machine is fan-assisted which is great as it helps with even cooking. The hand-book supplied is very comprehensive and contains a few recipes to start you off, including several gluten-free options should you have any dietry requirements. You can also prepare pizza dough, bread rolls or French bread. The list is endless. Like other bread machines on the market, the Breville Breadmaster is simple to use. There are no fiddley parts to assemble and the instructions are all clear and easy to follow. Firstly you need to remove the bread pan from the machine with a simple twist and add the ingredients as listed in order. Return the pan to the machine, close the lid, switch on, select desired program, size of loaf (500g, 750g, or 1kg) and let the machine do its business. The first time I made a loaf I watched the whole process and I started to panic during the 'rise' program. I
could see the dough rising and it looked like it was going to work its way out the machine. But everything was fine, no need to worry. After 3.5 hours my lovely loaf was ready. If this seems too long to wait there is a rapid bake program, but I've yet to try this as I'm quite happy to wait longer. There is a built-in timer which is ideal for those who want to wake up to the smell of fresh bread in the morning. The timer can be delayed for up to 13 hours. It has taken a few attempts to get the perfect loaf of bread, I find experimenting with the ingredients can give better results, sometimes adding a little bit more sugar and less yeast can help. All in all, I am really pleased with my bread-maker. My favourite loaf is the granary, it tastes so much better than shop bought bread, and the pizzas are divine.
We have had a Breville BR 1 for less than 2 years. Within the first year the seal around the stirring paddle in the bottom of the bread pan broke up causing leaks and other problems. Breville sent us a replacement bread pan. I note that another customer has had this problem so I believe that there is a fundamental design flaw here. A month or so ago the machine stopped heating up during the baking cycle. Apparently the heating element has failed. We contacted Breville who have advised that, as the 1 year guarantee has expired, we can either pay for repairs or buy a new machine. Again, another customer has had the heating element fail and again I see this as (another) fundamental design flaw. We will NOT be buying another machine from Breville. In summary a very poor product from a very poor company.
I have had a breville bread maker for 18 months. At first the bread was good and a novalty,but I could always want answers to make the bread better. Brevill provide a book with recipes and instructions about methodology. Well get rid of it and buy the DK paper back A4 size bread making book. It contradicts all Breville say about order of ingredients,but the bread is superp. Once I had used this book,with flour from Shipton Mill at Tetbury (mail order) the flavour,shape,colour and texture was the best. Give DK book a try and contact shipton mill for flour,it's free delivery and in larger quantities than the supermarkets.The flour makes all the difference.
Some of my problems with the breadmaster are presonal, but I shall recount my sorry tale for your entertainment and enlightenment. The theory is this. You put all the ingrediants in the machine, select the bread type and how well done you want it, and then let the machine get on with it. The practise is somewhat different. Some years back I was living with a bloke who had bought himself one of these things. He had decided that he wanted fresh bread every day and that the bread machine could go on overnight. Bread from these machines needs a good twenty minutes to coll down before you cut it, which can result in having to get out of bed very early. For some reason, about 50% of the time, the bread just did not rise. There would be a thin heavy biscuit, and that would be it. Very, very often the thing for turnign the mix would get stuck in the loaf and would be impossible to remove without tearing the loaf in half. (Thus making it lousy for sandwiches.) Power spikes would cause the machine to go back to the start of the process and do it all again, regardless of how far through it had got. Sometimes the spinning mixing bit would fall off, and the ingrediants would not be mixed before they were cooked. (Results horrible.) Cleaning up afterwards was hell - the insides were none stick,but everythign stuck to them. I hated washing this thing out. I hated trying to take the bread out of it as well, which was surprisingly difficult. The ratio of good bread to inedible bread was such that I gave up. I now make bread by hand which is far less hassel and far easier to control. I would imagine that bread machines are quite fun if you want to use them every now and then. As a thing to use every day, they really aren`t that good.
This 'Breadmaker is all they say it is I am a great fan..but I don't make the usual bread.. My specials are Pizza and lovely fruit cakes and special little fruit loaves.. We particularly like Banana bread it only uses a small amount of butter and my banana's often go off quick in the warm house..so that's another excuse for a nice treat I also like to add raisins... But the Pizza's are really something- using a stoneground flour make sure the crust is not too dry, then it will rise up beautifully and put it in your own hot oven. The reason I wanted this lovely Breville breadmaker is the fact that my Arthritis is now preventing me from making any of my own bread as I have done for years, I don't mind admitting the food tastes better than mine ever did!
My first taste of homemade bread (from a machine) was at my mother-in-law's. To be frank, it wasn't as "scrummy" as I was expecting, being a bit airy, like Nimble for slimmers (can you still get that?). When I took early retirement last year, we concluded that one way my new-found freedom could enhance both our lives was for me to make a weekly loaf. So we started looking for bread-makers. "Why make your own bread?" they ask. "Well, now I'm retired, I knead the dough", I reply. Geddit? A fortunate accident in the form of a timely Curry's sale enabled us to buy the Breville Breadmaster for approx. £100. Initially, we knew nothing about them, except that the Breville had a much larger domed window than many others, which with hindsight sometimes proves useful if the mix doesn't look as thorough as it could be, affording the opportunity to "give it a prod" yourself. EASE OF USE How easy does "Measure out the ingredients, bung 'em in, set the loaf type and weight, and walk away" sound? FLEXIBILTY As well as three sizes of loaf (500gm, 750gm, and 1000gm) it can handle 7 different variations of loaf type plus the ability to mix and prove dough for use elsewhere in a different oven. This can be useful if you want to try your hand a Ciabatta or some such. You CAN make it in the machine but it still LOOKS like a typical un-sliced loaf, even if it tastes like Ciabatta. Better to let it make the dough and transfer to a proper oven in a more authentic shape. RELIABILTY In truth, there's probably not too much to go wrong (he said with fingers crossed). We have made a loaf per week for 18 months with no problems. The only likely source of failure that I can see is the liquid-proof seal below the mixing paddle, which must be similar to those in food processors. The non-sti
ck coating inside the baking tin is a bit prone to scratching, not just from spatulas (if you must use one), but also from the ingredients themselves. Also, you have to be a bit careful when levering out the mixing paddle for cleaning. This doesn't ever seem to want to come out of its own volition, unless its left to soak for ages. FEATURES There is a handy beep during the first mixing period to allow for the insertion of nuts (?) - this prevents them from being ground to a pulp. The same applies to olives – don't bother chopping them up, because you'll end up with tiny black olive-flavoured specks in the finished product. Just split them, and let the mixing paddle do its worst. A timer allows you to delay the start of baking, so that you can wake to the smell of real bread, or so that it will be finished just as those nice people the estate agent is sending to view your house arrive. Sneaky! I wouldn't recommend using the timer with any ingredients likely to go off overnight though like real milk or eggs. The heat source is by fan convection which I suspect gives a much better distribution of heat, and has the added advantage of creating a mouth-watering stream of bread-scented hot air! PROBLEMS Getting the first loaf right was a bit "iffy", but once we learned not the stand the machine in a cold room*, our loaves stopped coming out like bricks. * Our new central heating boiler is so efficient, it fails to heat the kitchen at all! All loaves end up with a perfect imprint of where the paddle used to be – unavoidable, it would seem. This tends to disfigure the pristine symmetry of the middle slice which can be regarded as the runt of the litter. As mentioned before, the mix doesn't always go to plan, leaving large clods of flour at the four corners of the baking tin ( did I say tin? it's a heavy alloy casting actually)
. If you must prod, use a plastic spatula to avoid damaging the non-stick finish. Because of this, I never set it going if I am just about to go out – I prefer to be there during the first mix. Make sure that it is plugged into a socket that is not going to get mistaken for something else. If the timer is reset, there's no way to get back to where you were. I know, I've done it! VERDICT I'm really pleased with it, and we haven't bought "normal" bread for months. We stick to a wholemeal "Basic Wheat Light" formula, with toasted sunflower seeds as our staple, and this is serving us well. It makes brilliant toast too.
The good news, as other dooyoo-ers have said, is that this breadmaker has excellent features and makes delicious bread. It is very easy to use, has a great choice of settings and a very useful delay feature. The accompanying booklet contains a variety of interesting recipes but could be improved if the misprints were corrected. However, the really bad news is that my breadmaker began to go wrong after 18 months of only moderate use. At first I noticed that the rubber seal at the bottom of the bread pan had come loose. Consequently, some of the ingredients were leaking out during the mixing process, then baking hard and apparently stopping the dough hook from moving properly. The fact that the loaves were not rising properly I put down to this problem. A quick phone call to customer services produced a new bread pan, with seal intact, for £8 including postage and packing. But it soon turned out that this was not the sole cause of the problem. As the loaves were still not rising well, I started to check the breadmaker during use, at each stage of the process. I soon discovered that it was not getting nearly hot enough during the rising/baking cycle. Another phone call to customer services followed and the outcome of this was that I have to send the machine in for repair. Although I would love to have my breadmaker working again, I am reluctant to trust it to the postal services. The cost of postage will be £8, and although I would pay this, I am concerned about the practicality of safely wrapping and sending such a heavy item. Worse still is the possibility that it could be damaged on the way back to me after expensive repairs. I have been assured that I will be sent an estimate and repairs will not be carried out if their cost is approaching the price of a new machine. However, my dilemma is still whether to gamble on a successful repair or whether to go for a new (cheaper!) model from a different manufacture
r. In the meantime, I cannot wholeheartedly recommend the machine to others. I think it is reasonable to expect more than 18 months use, and to be able to obtain repairs more easily.
Did a lot of research on Breadmakers before I decided to buy one. I unfortunately couldn't find many reviews for English machines, but plenty for U.S. machines. So I visited a lot of stores and had a look at all the available machines in my price range. It was a toss up between the cheaper Morphy Richards machine and the Breville. The BR1 was my eventual choice because although it has a small footprint (taking up less space on the worktop), it's bread pan looked bigger. I'm pleased with my choice because having made at least 1 loaf in it every day since I bought it, I haven't had any failures. Bread comes out of the pan with a shake and no need to pre-grease it. Another deciding factor was that the Breville website is fantastic. The problem feedback link is fantastic and the response time to any enquiries excellent. The only slight niggle I have against the machine is the fact that the 'time left' (til the end of the cooking cycle) would be better if it wasn't in half hour increments. But apart from this the machime is dead easy to use. Just three buttons to set it and off you go.


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Weekend started with accepting on an article thing. Took me quite some time to take the decision, but I'll take it as excercise and hope it won't take up too much of my time. Let's see, it's a new experience for me, kind of.
Once again enjoyed one of those completely spontaenous hacks. Frerich had some problem with class ownership in knewsticker and it was real fun to quickly jump in and hack right away (problem was clear, solution was obivous) . That's what I love with KDE stuff, if you want you can just go in and focus on a tiny little detail and do something.
Hunted some Qt/E bugs I found while debugging konq/e. A bit of a strange feeling (no immediate feedback) , but good all in all (well, let's see if my patches get accepted...) . Also fixed a bit in konq/e itself, namely the proxy support and the config behind it. Really got to push myself to reach the 1.0 goals. Oh well...
Birthday party of ematthias. Was great fun. Freed up my mind :)
Had a second flashback on good old scene stuff, on irc. Well oh well. Made me even loose the focus for a second. But then it's good to figure again that the current 'situation' is closer to my dream.
Looking forward to the second band session on tuesday. Am really keen on pushing this tiny little music flame inside me more :)
But first I got to visit the doctor tomorrow again, because of my kindney (uh, hope the translation is correct, at last babelfish says so :) . Maybe this chapter can finally be closed (although it hasn't really been bothering me that much the last weeks) .
But I'm looking forward to the upcoming week. Last one was nice. Gotta push myself to do more uni stuff though. really, grr.
Closing the day with some completely relaxing Astrud Gilberto & Stan Getz jazz music. Lovely. Just the right thing.
And now someone explain me why I'm suddenly writing such a detailed diary entry?


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In recent years states have begun relying on these intermediaries to conduct filtering of online content and monitoring of users' activities. By holding intermediaries liable for third party content, such as defamation or media piracy, states encourage them to censor all but the most mainstream content. The result is typically excessive filtering and a chilling effect on free speech.


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Most truck dashes are slabs of plastic designed to take a beating from the sun and everyday abuse a truck must endure over its lifetime. Until recently, most designers didn't give much thought to the aesthetics of a truck's interior. It was function, storage space, and more function. Painting a dash looks great, but it's time consuming, expensive, and while the dash is out, your truck is immobile. You can wrap a dash with leather or suede, but we've seen that too many times in a show truck. To add some much needed style to the interior of our '09 Ram project, we sought out an easy-to-install and relatively inexpensive mod that would transform the overall look and feel of our dash.
Sherwood Innovations came to our rescue with its 2D dash kit. CAD designed for each specific application, Sherwood's kits come in a variety of genuine wood finishes, brushed metal, real carbon fiber, and synthetic materials such as colored carbon fibers, camo, and graphic wood designs. For certain models, a 3D kit is available that actually wraps around the existing center console to completely mask the original look. Using 3M heavy-duty tape, each dash kit can be installed in a matter of minutes and the results are dramatic. For Project Lead Sled, we opted to match the look and feel of a new Grand Cherokee SRT8 by ordering the Sherwood 38-piece kit in real carbon fiber. To complement the new dash kit, we also ordered the optional four-piece door panel insert kit in matching real carbon fiber. We were impressed with the fit, finish, and new look of our daily driven show truck. If your truck could use an updated interior, give Sherwood a call.
In a little over an hour, our Ram was looking the part of a high-end sports car with real carbon fiber adorning the dash, center console, and door panels.
Sherwood Innovations800-286-1674