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Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by blueadams, Nov 7, 2012.
That's sad ...passed over like the Christmas fruitcake.
This culture of lose has grown since ECF 2009 where no one even tried to come near a moving LBJ in our paint, they might already used to it.
I like Frank (so far) but I still maintain that Bill Laimbeer would have been just what the Pistons need.
The similarities between our Pistons and my other team, Arsenal FC, are staggering.
I don't follow Soccer but I have to assume that Arsenal has a bunch of guys who get paid the most but produce the least and a management strategy that is bent on trying to win meaningless games in a lost season rather than preparing the team for a series of championship runs in the future.
I don't follow Soccer but I have to assume that Arsenal has a guy that works out in a suana, a shooter that does push ups instead of practicing to shoot, a guy that likes to collide with the opponents, a guy who the clueless coach plays as a midfielder but should never, never, never play midfield, and a Russian dude that doesn't even dress for the games.
Arsenal has a guy who is a midfielder who is played in defence when he should never, ever play there. Andre Santos - basically our version of Charlie V. We produced a gutless surrender vs Manchester United last weekend.
I bet the Pistons could hang with that team for a half.
Here are some of the addition/subtraction attitude ideas I'm mulling over.. #1) If we're in line for a top five pick at the end of the season, I think it's almost probable that Gores pulls the plug on Joe-D and Frank. Based on the marketing campaigns we've seen thus far into his ownership, I'd imagine that Gores is very much in favor of fielding the kind of team I described - tough, mean, hard-working, hungry, etc; and that he'd bring in a GM/HC duo that values that (also, based on some of the front-office additions he's made, it's also clear that he's a believer in the Houston Rockets/NBA Sabermetrics theories, and would have that in mind with his GM hire as well). Like I've said, bring in a tough as nails defensive/effort-minded coach who commands respect and doesn't take any crap from players; and a GM who will deliver him the kind of players we want. #2) Get rid of Villanueva, Daye and Prince. Not the kind of players we need around here, and certainly not the kind of veteran leaders we want either. Amnesty Villanueva in the summer. Let Daye walk as a free agent. And desperately do whatever you have to do to move Tayshuan (which could mean giving up picks). #3) Veteran Back-Up Point Guard. I like Bynum. He's one of the few guys on this team who actually cares, at least at times. But Knight needs a really experienced knowledgable veteran to be showing him the ropes..and to push him. Doubt it'd happen, but someone like Chauncey would be excellent, or maybe someone similar who commands a little less PT. If it's possible to resign Bynum as a third point guard...well, whatever...but it wouldn't make a ton of sense. #4) Tough, mean, veteran big man. Someone to show Drummond and Monroe how we need them to be in this league. You'd be thinking someone like Ben, but reall[FONT=Times New Roman]y, Ben wasn't reall[FONT=Times New Roman]y what Ben was in his second stint here. To some extent, sure, he was. But I also remember him being benched for skipping practice, laughing on the bench with all his fellow suspendees while we were getting slaughtered in that game, and complaining about ever[FONT=Times New Roman]y coach he ever pla[FONT=Times New Roman]yed for. Don't necessaril[FONT=Times New Roman]y need someone who can still pla[FONT=Times New Roman]y here, but who knows how to pla[FONT=Times New Roman]y, on both ends of the court, and will be a great example.[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman]#5) If [FONT=Times New Roman]you can resign Maxiel to a short, cheap deal, and he's prepared to be a 3rd string PF, go ahead. He's one of the few current pla[FONT=Times New Roman]yers on the roster who represents what I want (though he's not that good at basketball).[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman]#[FONT=Times New Roman]6) If Maggette proves to be the kind of pla[FONT=Times New Roman]yer we're looking for, and [FONT=Times New Roman]you can sign him to a short, cheap deal, and he's prepared to be a backup, again, go ahead. Not likel[FONT=Times New Roman]y though.[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT] C: A. Drummond, *?*FA*?*, V. Kravtsov PF: G. Monroe, J. Jerebko, J. Maxiel(?) SF: S. Muhammad(1st), K. Singler, K. Middleton SG: R. Stuckey, C. Magette(?), K. English PG: B. Knight, *?*FA*?*, T. Burke(2nd) ...gone: Villanueva, Daye, Prince, Bynum
I see you are sticking with Stuckey still.... is that door in your eyes closing? His ship has sailed for me.... besides that I'm on board with most the things you said, though I would rather not pull the plug on yet another 2 years of a coach in Detroit. Unless its obvious he's lost the team, I want him to have a legit chance to right the ship. Same with Joe, we have come this far... lets see what happens. I have to assume that Joe and the ownership have discussed the plan and if the plan is being followed then I'm fine with Joe staying abit longer.
It's gonna be hard to move Rodney. If we can get something good for him, then by all means. But I still see him as a useful backup combo guard on a good team in a worst case scenario. As for the Gores plan.. If Joe-D's gone, I think it means Frank's gone too (nothing to do with his performance, just a package deal as I see it). And I don't think that plan included a top 5 pick, if there is such a plan.
Joe/Frank are good for another year. We'll see a shakeup if we can't make the playoffs next year though.
I don't think any of us know enough about this guy to accurately predict his behavior.
I'm just going by the Ben Gordon dump trade. We gave a 1st rounder that is lottery protected this year and top 1 protected next year. So, if we fail to make the playoffs next year, that would mean that fixing a prior Joe D mistake cost us a lottery pick. If we do make the playoffs, then there's at least that to show for. So far, Gores has paid a lot of money to fix Joe's mistakes. Nothing in return yet.
A couple of points: 1. If Gores had his way, I don't think he'd want a scrappy, tough team like the Bad Boys. I think he'd rather have a metrosexual Laker style team to match his wardrobe. 2. I agree with Walter that Joe and Lawrence Franklin are safe for one more season. No 2014 playoffs? - ...cats will be gettin' sent fo'. 3. I like this roster that you put together but Stuckey's gotta go. I know he'll break out of this slump that he's currently in and resume being average; After the last three seasons, I'm just sick of looking at him.
Don't forget that Gores supposedly overruled JD and suggested that Frank be hired. Joe will get the axe before Frank I think.
I don't remember ever reading this. Source?
As i think about our pistons, im thinking our tough guy is CV, he dont take no _hit! frank needs to squash the beef, and take control of his team. True coaches take what you got on the bench and make it happen, if CV had been playing we might have a W by now.........If CV and Frankenstein would battle the other teams this hard, instead of each other, we just might win!!! this is a man's sport, our team is actin like b_tches....we need a Waterboy.....
It was during the coaching search in the DetNews, I think. Dumars wanted someone else, I can't remember who, and Gores/Checketts liked little Larry. I don't have a link.
It's true. Frank was Checketts' guy.
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Jan 14, 2013 at 2:10 pm #1298004
Have become increasingly interested in the idea of using GPS to back up my map and compass (and guesswork) when navigating off trail. Have GAIA GPS on my iPhone 4s and love it.
Is there any reason (theoretical, anecdotal, or empirical) to think that a Garmin Etrex 30 would get better GPS reception than the iPhone? Garmin is purpose built after all.
For the purposes of this thread, let's leave out any comparison of battery life, durability, or interface, and just focus on the device's ability to reliably locate you with GPS signal.
Thanks!Jan 14, 2013 at 3:15 pm #1943785
First of all, I have to admit that I've been a GPS user and instructor since 1995.
In the early days, say up until around 1997, most consumer-type GPS receivers had external (movable) antenna components of the quadrifilar design. Those were helpful in attaining necessary antenna gain and in minimizing multipath interference problems. At the same time, a few GPS receivers came out with what we know call a patch antenna, and the patch could not compare in performance. Over the ensuing ten years or so, Selective Availability was turned off, software and hardware improvements have advanced to where the quadrifilar antenna gain is unnecessary, and only in a multipath situation does it pay off. So, if you are in a multipath situation such as a deep urban environment or a concrete canyon, the quality antenna may pay off. One small additional problem happens if you are in the near field of a microwave radio transmitter.
Unfortunately, out in a wilderness, you are not going to run into many smooth and reflective surfaces, and you typically do not climb up a microwave radio transmitter tower. Therefore, the quality antenna can help sometimes, and it sure isn't going to hurt at all except for the additional small weight and the additional small power consumption.
I have to ask this. For those of you who use a smart phone with GPS feature, do you really know exactly where the GPS antenna is and how it is oriented? If you don't know where it is or how it is oriented, you may be shadowing it with your body when you look at it, and that may reduce accuracy.
I own three different Garmin receivers. This may amaze some, but when I am heading into some area where navigation is a very serious matter, I carry the oldest receiver with an external antenna plugged in. The antenna is placed between my inner hat and my outer hat (pointed upward). In that fashion, it is almost impossible to shadow the antenna and have a problem.
If you put a gun to my head and forced me to decide, I would go with a Garmin receiver.
–B.G.–Jan 14, 2013 at 3:50 pm #1943803
I've done side-by-side tests with my iPhone 4 and my Etrex 20. Ruling out all of the important to have features that you mention like durability, waterproof, battery life etc., I found the following:
In fairly open areas (few trees or canyons), as long as the iphone was held facing skyward, it was very close to the Etrex 20 in it's track and waypoint recording.
In heavily treed areas with steep terrain it didn't do as well with satellite locks.
I also found that the Etrex is less particular about "facing skyward" (I can just toss the Etrex into my pack and it just keeps tracking).Jan 14, 2013 at 7:31 pm #1943889
Mike, thanks, super useful. Should have mentioned that I don't primarily use the tracking function, more just double checking location. Would that change your assessment in any way?
Bob, you piqued my curiosity. Seems like the iPhone 4S antenna is in the external metal band on the left side (as you look down at the screen) of the phone. How would that/not impact shadowing? Also, found this about the GPS sensor in the 4S, any assistance decoding it, and in particular, comparing it to what might be in a Garmin or single purpose GPS would be awesome:
"MDM6610 inside the 4S inherits the same Qualcomm GNSS (Global Navigation Satellite System) Gen8 support, namely GPS and its Russian equivalent, GLONASS. The two can be used in conjunction at the same time and deliver a more reliable 3D fix onboad MDM6610, which is what the 4S does indeed appear to be using. GPS and GLONASS are functionally very similar, and combined support for GPS and GLONASS at the same time is something most modern receivers do now. There are even receivers which support the EU's standard, Galileo, though it isn't completed yet. This time around, Apple is being direct about its inclusion of GLONASS. The GPS inside MDM6610 fully supports standalone mode, and assisted mode from UMTS, GSM, OMA, and gpsOneXTRA."
From: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4971/apple-iphone-4s-review-att-verizon/9Jan 14, 2013 at 7:44 pm #1943894
One more technical nugget, this from a considerably less reliable source:
"what the iPhone does NOT have is WAAS capability. The GPS receiver works by measuring how long it takes for the radio signals to propagate between the satellites and the receiver. The propagation time varies based on the current density of the atmosphere between each satellite and the receiver. Because of the density flucuations, a standard GPS receiver can only get a fix that is accurate to about 10 meters. However, some geostationary satellites transmit atmospheric density information that lets GPS receivers compensate for current atmospheric conditions, and this enables accuracies in the neighborhood of about 1 meter. Garmin has had WAAS capable receivers for years, as have other hand-held and aviation-based GPS receivers, so it is a bit surprising that Apple has not incorporated WAAS into their GPS radio — especially since WAAS density data can be downloaded via the Internet, eliminating the need for increased radio weight. I and others have submitted requests for a WAAS capable GPS receiver in the iPhone, but Apple has not delivered. Perhaps it is because WAAS is only available in North America. However, according to the specs for the iPhone 4S and 5, it now supports GLONASS, which provides near-WAAS accuracy when combined with standard GPS, and is available worldwide. At least that is the next best thing to WAAS."
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4288839?start=0&tstart=0Jan 14, 2013 at 8:02 pm #1943902
From what I've read from various reviewers and forums, the iPhone 4S has a better receiver than my iPhone 4. How much better would be nice to know. Apparently tracks were a little cleaner.
As far as tracks vs way points in my testing, it doesn't really matter. Both are a problem because the iPhone will occasionally drop it's satellite lock and then it will search for a bit to recover. Your phone has the new receiver so maybe it will do better than mine in this regard but I'd test it under heavy tree cover if I were you.
The GLONASS constellation is the Russian satellite network that in theory, will allow you to improve your accuracy because you can use both the GPS and GLONASS satellites to maintain your fix. The Etrex uses both but I find that in my area using both makes my unit less accurate so I shut off GLONASS.
Using WAAS (in my area) is not much better or perhaps worse than when it is shut off. WAAS is very much a local adjustment, so whether or not you benefit from it is dependent on where you are in the adjustment area (if one exists). You also don't need to be that accurate anyway… 10m is fine when hiking.
The GPS antenna on the iPhone is on one side (left side) which is why I find it tracks poorly when dropped in a pack or in my pocket. The Etrex seems to be less affected by this and holding it in the perfect position is less critical.Jan 14, 2013 at 8:21 pm #1943908
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@aerikssonLocale: Austin, TX
I've been looking into the idea of using a Bluetooth Garmin GLO receiver for better accuracy and changeable batteries. Has anyone played with one of these? In theory just set the phone to everything off excluding Bluetooth, tether, and use Gaia Maps as usual. Moreover, you could theoretically use an iPad mini with its larger screen as a better navigational aid even if you, like I, only have the wifi only model. Thoughts? No idea on weights but that's pointless unless it even works.Jan 14, 2013 at 8:27 pm #1943911
Michael BMember
@mbenvenutoLocale: Vermont
I am curious how the iphone GPS works, and whether it is aided by the cell network when it is available. Sitting on my desk, the iphone 5 resolves my almost perfect location in a few seconds, putting a dot over my house near the room I am in. It drifts very little as it sits there, but it does drift a bit.
My garmin vista HCX took forever to acquire my location, but that was because it had been off since the summer. My old GPS could not get a reading inside, but the high sensitivity receiver on the hcx usually does pretty well. The Garmin comes pretty close too, right on the house, but then I can watch it drift around back and forth across the street as GPS do.
This seems consistent with using the iphone on the road, it acquires the location very quickly, much faster than a handheld GPS. I will most likely bring the iphone into the backcountry as a phone, but I am not sure I would think of it as a replacement for a GPS when I need a GPS. But that is all pretty much about battery life and waterproof and toughness.
edited to say: my iphone was already "on" so it had already acquired my location in my house and when I am on the road. So to really test this, I would need to turn off and move it to a new location. So that makes it appear deceptively effective in its mapping applications.Jan 14, 2013 at 8:34 pm #1943914
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@hereJan 14, 2013 at 8:55 pm #1943917
Alex ErikssonSpectator
@aerikssonLocale: Austin, TX
@ken: I can speak for myself on this when I say, yes, that is a great resource and was in fact the thing I familiarized myself with before using my iPhone in the wild. Great resource. Perhaps the OP like myself is looking for additional information? Also, since the time of that original article being written, the iPhone 5 has been released with who knows what inside. It would be interesting to see who has been fiddling with these solutions besides myself. I haven't had great results with my iPhone 4 but haven't tried my girlfriend's 4S.
I'm currently lusting after the iPhone 5 however, with a Lifeproof totally waterproof case as the one device to rule them all. For the price of an eTrax (sans maps) you can possibly have a very close approximation. How close, I believe, is the point of this thread.Jan 14, 2013 at 9:34 pm #1943926
Gee, you guys are just full of good questions. How come none of you ever sat in my class? Let me try to hit some of the salient points.
I've never seen an iPhone 4S, so I have no idea about the external metal band on the left side. If metal gets in the way of the antenna, it could be a real problem. But, we don't really know where the actual antenna is.
Think about the normal way that you are holding a GPS receiver or a smart phone when you are looking at the screen. Think about where your head is, or if it is shadowing the antenna. As a general rule, your head is blocking at least some of the view of the sky toward the horizon, but that should have relatively little effect when it is within 10 degrees of the horizon (because satellite signals are routinely masked when they get below 10 degrees). If the device is almost horizontal, and your head and shoulders are directly above the antenna, then you are probably causing a problem, either small or moderate. Most devices can get a fairly decent accuracy just by looking at the remaining satellite signals.
"MDM6610"? I have no idea what that is.
GPS+Glonass support. That is an interesting question. The U.S. put up its GPS satellite system first. The Russians followed with Glonass. For some serious periods of time, the Russians could not afford proper maintenance on its system, so accuracy was seriously affected. At the last that I heard, they had pulled it together again. So, if you listen to one group of people, GPS+Glonass is superior. If you listen to another group of people, that is all marketing hogwash. I've done talks alongside some of the biggest GPS experts in the U.S., and they will tell you that it is _mostly_ hogwash and you don't need Glonass for anything unless your first name is Ivan. Theoretically, the U.S. can drop the ball and the Russians can keep their Glonass cooking, or vice versa. Personally, I have my own views. Galileo is one other system that I am not putting my money on.
WAAS was kind of another big buzzword a few years ago. Yes, it does help a tiny bit in accuracy. Is it worth the trouble? I don't know. I do not currently use any WAAS-enabled receiver, although I have had my hands on a few dozen. One problem here is that most normal receivers and WAAS-enabled receivers have other small accuracy errors going on, so whether you get 1-meter or 10-meter accuracy from WAAS is kind of a moot point. One group of people is striving for the 1-meter accuracy, because then they can use it as a primary navigation system for human-less driven cars. That is getting way outside the bounds of what a backpacker needs to find his way along the trail and out of the woods, in my opinion.
If an iPhone drops its satellite lock, that could mean any of a dozen things. I've traveled back and forth several times across the U.S. when somebody complained of just such a problem. It could be a problem in that one phone device, something about the way the user is holding it, multipath interference, antenna shadowing, or high power interference from a microwave source. Been there. Done that.
Cleanliness of tracks. That is generally a software issue. Look up Kalman Filtering. Also, the more that you shadow the antenna, the worse this problem becomes.
Some smart phones use cellular augmentation to GPS. Generally, they pick up terrestrial cell tower signals slightly before they have a GPS satellite signal lock. That is kind of a temporary thing, in my opinion. Besides, most backpackers are so far out in the boonies that there is no cell tower signal.
If a Garmin Vista HCX takes forever to acquire your location, I could believe that. Most GPS receivers have a Time To First Fix (hot), Time To First Fix (warm), and Time To First Fix (cold). TTFF cold can be lengthy, and it depends on how much of the satellite ephemeris data is still in memory and how old the data is. So, before you go off into the woods, as you are getting your backpack out of the car, first turn on your GPS receiver and place it in a place with good view of the sky, such as on the hood of your car. Leave it running there for some minutes, up to 15, and I can guarantee that it will work better than if you just wait until you are out in the woods and you start it up. Some receivers get a bad component that holds that data intact in memory, so they have to wait until long after start up before they show good results. If you are deep in the woods and moving when you try a cold start up, you will run into what we call the picket fence problem, and your accuracy may be poor for a while. If you have the device deep within a car (underneath the metal roof), then you aren't making it easy for accuracy.
If you want to see something really cool, get yourself a Mil-Spec GPS receiver with the crypto key installed. Bring along your security clearance for that.
–B.G.–Jan 14, 2013 at 11:03 pm #1943935
Bob mentions GPS software and it's a big piece of the puzzle. It's one of the concerns I have about using smart phones as navigation tools in the back-country.
The chip technology is very good these days but we are at the mercy of the software programmers because they decide what to do with the signals they receive before they present it to you. A case in point is that most car GPS's will keep your vehicle location "locked" on the road however we all know that as GPS accuracy varies, you should see your car drift off the road from time to time when the signal is weak. I see this in hand held (trail) GPS's all the time. But who would want a car nav system that put your car on top of the buildings? Not me… thank you software developers!
So the question is, what was the iPhone designed for? I say for walking in town and driving… which makes me question what is really happening inside the device. We also know that collecting GPS signals burns up a lot of battery power, so the software developer has to find a balance between too fine grained signal capture (wasted batteries) and not enough to keep you on track. Hand held GPS's generally let you set that interval but my iPhone doesn't (actually, my MotionX GPS app does but it's unclear what it's doing). So are they capturing enough points in the back-country to keep on track if the trail is winding a lot?
Somebody above asked if smart phones use the cell towers for location services and the answer is yes. But it's not that simple… they also can use wifi to speed up your fix (nail down your location quickly). That's why you can often find your location when inside a building… think about it, one day all your favorite stores will be Geo-referenced "inside" the mall! My Motion X GPS app allows me to select Wifi/Triangulation Mode which finds my location while the built in GPS is turned off.
My son and I have tested this on his iPod GPS app, which is amazing when you consider an iPod doesn't have a GPS receiver built into it and can't use cell towers. We can walk around our block and the GPS marker puts us in the middle of the road by pinging the neighbors wireless routers. You don't have to be logged on to search for them, you just need to be able to pick up their signal and the software can triangulate your position.Jan 14, 2013 at 11:20 pm #1943937
"My son and I have tested this on his iPod GPS app, which is amazing when you consider an iPod doesn't have a GPS receiver built into it and can't use cell towers. We can walk around our block and the GPS marker puts us in the middle of the road by pinging the neighbors wireless routers. You don't have to be logged on to search for them, you just need to be able to pick up their signal and the software can triangulate your position."
iPod uses WiFi triangulation to determine its location.
However, "pinging the neighbors wireless routers" doesn't seem like it is the entire solution. The wireless routers do not know their own location much more accurately than maybe the nearest Zip code.
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You can always PM Amy L or Andrew Johnson. Both BPLrs. Amy does update that article and has done other posts on the subject here.Jan 15, 2013 at 10:01 am #1944036
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@trailbehindLocale: San Pablo Park
Garmins and other hand-held GPS do have better GPS accuracy than iPhones in my experience.
The first iPhone with a GPS (the 3G), which I tested against a Garmin, had very noticeably different track lines, and discrepancies in distance recorded. Over time though, the GPS chips in iPhones and iPads have gotten better – they still aren't the same grade as Garmin units in my experience, but there is also no practical implications for my purposes.
If you are just hiking around, then I doubt you'll notice any meaningful difference. If you need to do things like surveying, avalanche spotting, and other high-precision activities, you might want a handheld GPS. Even for geocaching though, where you need to be pretty accurate, the iPhone works very well.Jan 15, 2013 at 10:34 am #1944050
Buck NelsonBPL Member
@colterLocale: Alaska
What Andrew said: If you are just hiking around, then I doubt you'll notice any meaningful difference. If you need to do things like surveying, avalanche spotting, and other high-precision activities, you might want a handheld GPS. Even for geocaching though, where you need to be pretty accurate, the iPhone works very well.
That was my experience with the GAIA GPS on my iPhone 4s on my Desert Trail hike where I was using it to mark, and sometimes relocate, buried caches. I had a Garmin Etrex Legend HCx for a backup, and I was able to rely on both of them.
The iPhone 4s worked well for me, I'd expect it would work well for you.Jan 15, 2013 at 10:51 am #1944058
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@qiwizLocale: UL gear @ QiWiz.net
with a v4 and now a v5 iPhone, running Gaia GPS for topo map and track downloads and to see my position; running CoPilot Live for road turn by turn navigation. Neither needs a cellular signal to work. Both use maps that are downloaded to the phone.Jan 15, 2013 at 11:38 am #1944074
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I have been using an app called "Topo Maps" with my iPhone for a few years and really like it. I think it was around $5 for the app and then all map downloads are free. The maps are USGS 1:24,000 topographical maps. I don't use any of the advanced functionality, basically I just use it to see where I am on the topo map (since it uses the phone's GPS). Most of my hiking is in the Grand Canyon and it's been great to keep me on track when on less-traveled trails and also to see the remaining distance before I reach my daily destination. Here's a screenshot:Jan 15, 2013 at 12:23 pm #1944092
Thanks for the great info folks. Seems like the consensus is that the Garmin receiver is technically better, but not enough to matter to most people for "hiking around" purposes. Great info and discussion!
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I put Amerson there for two reasons:
1- Yes he had a bad senior year, but many scouts say that he still will develop a a 1st round ability.
2- He has size. The lack of size that we dont have with Hosley we can add with Amerson.
Otherwise we can draft Blidi Wreh-Wilson, he has super long arms, and ESPN ranks him ahead of Banks.
disagree,,he is much more than just striping the ball,,which he does masterfully,,,,he is a flat out ball hawk who rarely gets beat deep and doesn't allow much separation. he excels in reading opposing D's and is always around the ball because of that. also,,he is a pretty darn good punt returner....his only off the field issue is that he likes to smoke pot,,which by all accounts is under control now. the high reward potential outweighs the risk involved. if he had played last year he is easily a first or early second round pick. he is more of a hybrid safety and slot corner in the NFL, plus he can tackle. he has ed reed ball skills....we would be nuts not to take a flier on this kid in say the 5th/6th/7th if he is still around. I am predicting he goes as early as the 3rd,,so we will never get near him anyway.
Love the mock. if Richardson from Missouri isnt there then Floyd is the next best. big body who can come in and start day one.
Love Arthur Brown but i have concerns that he wont be there then. I have seen some mocks having him a late 1st early 2nd. If hes not there then Green From RU would be great.
Next two Picks are guys that i have on my mock at the same spots. Quessenberry is one of the most versatile O-Linemen i have ever seen. can play all along the line and is solid at them all (not a star at any). I think Will Davis is a hidden gem in this draft. Big time sleeper pick.
The Rest of the draftees meet all of our needs. I have heard that Wolff is the real deal at S. Kruger is a good Run Stopping DE and with our line should be able to develop his pass rush ability, Love his Size at the point of attack.


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The web is filled with miscellaneous and educational blog. but this text means more than any kind of stuff I've managed to readso far.
Thanks for the well-thought article. I'm actually at work at the moment! So I need to go off without reading all I'd like. But, I put your site on my yandex feed so that I can read even more.
my name is jaisri. i think buzz should be let go whith his dancing partner.
I think it's going to be Kate of course she needs to spend her time with the kids. Being a single parent to 2 or 3 kids is hard enough with 8 their is always someone who will need their mother. Besides she can't dance!!!!!!!!!!!!!
get Jake off the television. He has already made a soap opera out of the Bachelor for the last two seasons. I have lost my interest in the Bachelor because of his cry baby actions.
Kate obviously can't dance and she does not know how to let loose if this show can at lest teach her to let down her guard a little bit it will have done her a world of good.Dancing with the stars not the pros like Evan and Nichole


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Well, a pistol bullet can generally only damage tissue it physically touches (unlike a rifle). So if we look at expansion and penetration figures for a couple typical loads, we can get a pretty good idea of what a .357SIG can realistically do versus a good 9mm.
In .357SIG, the Federal 125 gr JHP penetrated 13.7" of ballistic gelatin and expanded to .59". (Reference Todd Louis Green, www.greent.com.)
In 9mm, the Speer 124 gr +P Gold Dot penetrated 13.2" of gelatin and expanded to .62". (Reference Shawn Dodson, www.firearmstactical.com.)
Now, of course, you can play around with loads and find a .357SIG that expands more or penetrates deeper. Ditto 9mm. But the results from these common, typical loads seems to support the idea that the .357SIG isn't necessarily worth the heavier recoil and reduction in mag capacity.
It's an old article, but there's some interesting reading here: http://www.firearmstactical.com/briefs10.htm. Scroll down to find the .357SIG info.


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Rylan wrote:yellow pavel.
He should have been eliminated last day phase.
Rylan wrote:Cause I trust you the least out of everyone. Everything that has been happening has had close ties to you.
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Rylan wrote:Slappy died in day 1 with you and him being 2 of the 3 main people targeted.
The other person, MRandall was "Burn Noticed"
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SDD was one of the people in on voting for you and also stated that you were a prime suspect.
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i will not reveal the agents name prior to some discussion on the message, but the information was interesting. It will be in my next post so i can copy it correctly and I'm on mobile.
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man oh man ....hope his kid ok
man oh man ....hope his kid ok
Man, hope little Osi's alright...my thoughts and prayers are w/ him and the rest of the family.
Ralph Vacchiano tweeted that Osi's son has been released from the hospital. His son is 5 years old.
glad all seems ok.....
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Reality Check: TV Ads Against 'Home Tax'
Tax Increase In Governor's Proposed Budget
MADISON, Wis. - As lawmakers wrangle over the state budget, issue ads against the so-called home tax are playing on televisions across the state.
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WISC-TV political reporter Colin Benedict put the TV ads through a "Reality Check."
The ad starts with this question: "How much money would you be out if some state leaders get their way and double your home tax?"
But what exactly is the home tax? Before answering that, it's important to point out that the Wisconsin Homeowners Alliance is paying for the ads.
The group is a nonprofit, nonpartisan advocacy group, according to HomeownersAlliance.org. But it should be noted that it was created by the Wisconsin Realtors Association, and every member of the Homeowner Alliance Board is a realtor.
The ad makes it clear the group is against doubling the so-called home tax.
"On a half million dollar business, on a $200,000 home, a $750,000 farm," the ad says.
What the ad is referring to is not the property tax but the fee that people pay when they sell their homes or businesses.
WISC-TV found that calling it the "home tax" is "misleading."
Right now, if someone sold his home, $3 for every $1,000 of the home's worth is paid to the state -- a small portion goes to the county, WISC-TV reported.
Gov. Jim Doyle's budget proposed doubling that to $6 per $1,000 of the home's worth. On the average Madison home, the fee would increase from about $718 to more than $1,400.
Among the neighboring states, Wisconsin's hike would move the state to the higher end. If it is passed, only Michigan's fee would be higher, WISC-TV reported.
"It's double taxation and it's double trouble for all property owners in Wisconsin," the ad says.
That claim "needs clarification." While the increase would apply to all property owners, only about 7 percent would pay it each year, which is how many people sell every year.
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Audio: Voinovich humiliates himself in shamnesty debate with Hannity; Update: Cloture votes down to 60?
posted at 6:33 pm on June 27, 2007 by Allahpundit
A travesty. He's the personification of the bill's ills: ignorant of and incurious about its weaknesses, confused as to what's in it and what isn't (per his comments about Kay Bailey Hutchison's amendment), and worst of all brimming with arrogance at the nerve of conservative proles to be angry about this issue. This clip ought to push those confidence-in-Congress poll numbers into single digits, assuming they're not there already.
He also appears to have only the vaguest sense of what the Fairness Doctrine is. Rest easy tonight knowing that in these capable hands may rest the fate of the nation's immigration policy.
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Edit - rethinking my post here.
Seems that I recall a 6x39 wildcat already exists. I think a 6.5x39 does too... just don't know about that one.
If you necked it properly, you could have enough shoulder to headspace but the problem is the lack of powder capacity. You may be better served by starting with .308 / .30-06 brass and opening up your bolt face to use the .308 round.
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John Clayton amazes me every time I see him on TV with how ugly he is. And I see him on TV alot!
Let's get one for the thumb...
When I think of Football, the first person that comes to mind is John Clayton.
After that, it's guys like Lawrence Taylor, Vince Lombardi, Walter Payton, etc.
But definitely, John Clayton is THE MAN.
If he says 14.....then it's 14 for me, too.
Seriously, though......I'm thinking they are closer to 7 than 14.....but if that pass rush doesn't show up, it's going to be hard to argue with the ranking.
Bill Parcells never said "you are what John Clayton says you are."
No one remembers who came in second.
Looked about right to me. The Giants have beaten nobody and had to come from behind to beat two bad teams. Does this matter anyway?


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Arsène Wenger says Arsenal are "still in the driving seat" for a top-three finish - but he thinks they need at least two wins from their final three games to make sure.
The Frenchman has seen his team drop five points in their last two matches following a defeat to Wigan and Saturday's 0-0 draw with. But Arsenal have extended their lead over Tottenham to six points after their local rivals lost at Queens Park Rangers.
Newcastle climbed to fourth and closed the gap to three points with an emphatic win over Stoke City - Arsenal's next opponents. Like Spurs, Newcastle have a game in hand on the Gunners and Wenger knows that his players must rediscover their winning touch.
"We will see at the end of the season [whether Saturday was a missed opportunity]," said the Frenchman. "We are still in the driving seat, no matter what happens.
"It will depend on the results we make now. We have difficult games - we go to Stoke, to West Brom, not easy places, and we play Norwich at home. At least two of the next three we need to win."
Arsenal played "with the handbrake" against Chelsea, according to Wenger. But they were also stifled by the visitors' decision to deploy counter-attacking tactics in preparation for their Champions League trip to Barcelona.
"I think it worked for them [in the first leg] on Wednesday night so they thought 'OK, Arsenal is a bit similar'," said Wenger. "We play the same system and that's why [they did it].
"I can understand that because Kalou is quick, they have Sturridge who can score on the counter-attack, they have Torres who is quick - they have three quick players up front. I expected that a little bit and that's why I decided to play Gibbs because Gibbs is quite quick against Kalou or Sturridge. Overall defensively we were solid."Copyright 2017 The Arsenal Football Club plc. Permission to use quotations from this article is granted subject to appropriate credit being given to www.arsenal.com as the source


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A lot will depend on the sights you're using, the gun itself, and the ammo, and how they all interact. I've seen results like you have described, but I've also seen better...and worse.
The method(s) you will be using to hunt also factors into the equation. If you'll be sneaking around in heavy brush and jump-shooting them when they get up to run, then 50 yards might be the longest shot you'll ever get. In that case, it makes no sense to outfit yourself for a longer shot, especially if it requires a large cash outlay for a new barrel. If you're going to wait in a blind near a game trail, or along the edge of a clearing, then a longer-range rig might more useful.
I'd recommend good sights, whether that means quality rifle-type iron sights, or a good low-powered scope or red dot (if legal). If your gun isn't set up for a scope/dot, you might be able to get a no-drill mount and use that for deer season.
Then, get a few different types of ammo, go to the range, and test them for accuracy with your gun and sighting system. After that, you'll have a good idea of the capabilities of your gun/sight/ammo combo, and what your max range on deer should be. Adjust your hunting method(s) accordingly, and you should be all set. Good luck!


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quite possibly the finest high school institution in the united states, as well as the world. An all male school made up of the most intelligent youths a city can produce. Created in 1927, Central was destined for distinguished greatness. Although tarnished with tea-bagging alligations, the school community's resolve has shown through to the point where other schools have nothing else to criticize such an institution of learning for other than this allegid incident. The school, although all male, creates an invironment that caters to all walks of life, where gay, strait, catholic, or non, each individual will be called a fag by a fellow classmate and have his books encompassed with falic symbols ejaculating over last nights math assignment. Book checks are unaviodable and gamesharking illegal. Oakland girls are overrated because of being surrounded by scrotem for 6hours out of the day. All in all the female teachers are not hot at all if seen in normal day-to-day interaction and no school is better fit for young men looking for a college-preparatory school with a reputation of success than Pittsburgh Central Catholic. Unlike those greensburgh name stealing sons of bitches. We are the real CENTRAL and the viking is the only mascot we know or aknowledge. C.E.N.T.R.A.L whats that spell? CENTRAL! WHAT??
Central Catholic, better than your school since 1927.
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A school in Lawrence Ma a really poor city in North East Mass, kids from all over go there, its a private school , but 65 percent of there kids came from public, School has great sports, and a great facillite , its the place to go to if you wanna make it, but in a comfortable non snoby enviroment
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by CENTRALCATHOLICMAN June 01, 2009
A bunch of stupid teabaggers. Think they're great stuff because their mommies and daddies pay for them to go to a private big name school. Have some of the worst parties around, where getting wasted and teabagging each other are deemed a "good time". Think they're great because they get to have school next to an all Catholic girls school, but the girls there are dirty and have syphilis. All in all, some of the worst people around Pittsburgh go there, and just about anywhere else is better.
by jimbo67 October 23, 2006
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A private all boys school in Pittsburgh known for a bunch of pussy ass white boys who throw suckass parties. They are surrounded by only dick all day and think they're the shit cause the Oakland girls. However these girls all have herpes. Created in 1927 and to this day it holds a bunch of fags who get molested by their religion Teacher. Their football Team isn't even good.
by Woody2k December 01, 2016
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an over-testoterone school of all boys in san antonio. most of them are jerks, and love to break hearts. We normal people do not like them (only baby d & i guess tovar are cool).
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'Young Vader' spends time with family in Whitefish
WHITEFISH, Mont. - The little boy behind the Darth Vader mask, Max Page, is feeling healthier than ever before. Why? Because he's a year out of his 8th surgery to fix a heart defect he's had since he was born.
"I healed up great," said Max. "It's just awesome that I healed up so well. The doctors did an amazing job, I'm lucky."
Max is also a junior ambassador to Children's Hospital of LA.
"I can give medicine to kids and I'm just excited that I can help kids," Max explained.
He recently stopped in Washington, D.C., to lobby for children's hospitals.
"What we have as our mission is to make sure those hospitals are always ready for all children across the country," said Max's mom, Jennifer Alderson Page.
Time spent with family, especially in Montana, is precious to the Pages. His mother is happy Max is healthy and able to get out and be active with brother Ells.
"To play two rounds of golf and take a lesson with my teacher growing up has just been... to share this with my son is just magical," said Alderson Page.
"I'm just really excited that I can be with my grandparents and hang out with them," Max said.
The future for Max is bright -- be sure to keep an eye out for him in a few upcoming commercials. He's also keeping his fingers crossed, and hopes 'The Force' will be on his side, for his first ever movie role.
"If you use your force and dream big, you can achieve anything," Max said proudly.


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Costs of home repair and cleanup from Palo Alto flood
Original post made by Carl Jones, Palo Verde, on Aug 23, 2007
Floors, carpets, rugs, furniture, wallboard, electrical(?), cleanup, and what else? I am assuming slowly rising water to a depth of 12 inches (more?), remaining for about 24 hours (more?), and that there is no damage due to force of moving water or by debris carried by the water (reasonable?).
I'd appreciate any information that people would be willing to share.
-carl jones
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a resident of Barron Park
on Aug 23, 2007 at 8:15 pm
*pinky finger to mouth*
a resident of Crescent Park
on Aug 24, 2007 at 2:22 am
Carl, the water did not reach my first floor, fortunately, it missed by about two inches. I assume next time things would be worse, due to the increased building upstream covering areas where water could sink in as opposed to winding up in the creek, and some project of East Palo Alto's that I remember reading was estimated to raise the water level for the same type of flood by a "negligable six inches."
My recollection is I spent about $3000, due to damage to the stuff that was under the house (an old floor furnace and the hot water heater which was in a small semi-basement area. There was no real basement), and power tools and stuff stored in the garage and storage area, both of which did flood.
Fortunately it did not reach high enough on my car to do damage, another thing to think about.
There was also a tremendous amount of work which I did myself mucking mud out from the semi-basement and getting it away from the edges of the house and then scrubbing the house lower sides down. Also, restoring the yard. I took two weeks of vacation time from work, and then continued to work on this for I think it was a couple of months afterward.
If I had hired someone to do this, it woud have been much more expensive.
So figure a lot of work and time besides money, and then ask the idiot city council why they didn't have the guts to just get machinery out there to take down the Chaucer St. bridge the day after the floor.
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Aug 28, 2007 at 12:00 am
That's a great question. Bet the insurance companies know exactly how much. That info should be public so we don't pay for over-insuring.
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Third Flu-Related Death Reported in Santa Barbara County
SANTA BARBARA COUNTY, Calif. - A third person in Santa Barbara County has died from the flu this season.
Officials from the Santa Barbara County Health Department say the person was over 65 years old. The other deaths include a person under 64 years old and a woman in her 20s. Health officials do not know if all cases are related to H1N1 or if the three people got the vaccine.
There has been one flu-related death this season in San Luis Obispo County.


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I put Difergie's in the mail to Areinn on Wednesday!
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I put Difergie's in the mail to Areinn on Wednesday!
Question...does it matter if we add our row to the top or bottom?
working on the cats and kind of like my row on the top of the boy cats. Can we do it either way?
I got Difirgie's rows recently. They are beautiful. I have some stuff that I have to do first but I will get working on it soon.
Difergi, I would ask ctipton if she cares. I think either way is ok.
Difergie stack the rows any way it looks good to you
finished ctipton's row, ended up putting on the bottom...will not mail it til later, but here it is....it is a wild thing lol
I'm hoping to get the house thoroughly cleaned today (ha!) and then maybe I can spend tomorrow sewing. I haven't done that in a while...


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Over the past few months we've been in a period of exploration; looking inward to reconnect with each other and with our feminist selves. We began with a wish to expand our focus through and beyond punk cultural feminism to create a more expansive praxis of our intersectional, social justice model of feminism. But the needs are endless and the matrix of oppression feels ubiquitous. The choice of what frontline* we can most effectively claim requires thorough examination of both ourselves (including our privileges) and of the circumstances in which we are organizing. It's also required that we get real about our capacities and reconnect with our desires and feminist imaginations.
Within our current context of late neoliberal capitalism, marked by a relentless demand for the professionalization of Self, to always be improving oneself as a worker to compete for limited resources in a climate of precarity and extreme anxiety around financial survival and debt, we have become exhausted. Our web presence has slowed within this context; as we've struggled with the imperative to produce online media content that is at once social and non-social; productive, and ephemeral. We are grappling with the dual truths that important feminist dialogues are occurring over the internet every day and also that blogging is work (even a full time job for some of us). We are looking for ways to engage in feminist process that feel more productive to us in this moment; to help bridge us to new forms of empowered community action. We are learning how to care for ourselves both alongside of and as part of our vision of social justice, and this is no simple project in a patriarchal culture that seeks to silence our needs and constantly dehumanize us.
The Institute for Precarious Consciousness asserts that the dominant affect, or lived experience of these times is anxiety. Anxiety paralyzes us into worry about "what ifs" and avoidance of risk at all costs to empowerment and autonomy. Anxiety moves us even at times to dissociate and lose skill in being able to articulate our own traumas or to bear witness to the traumas of others. Our collective has moved to focus inward, through longer, intimate discussions where authentic communication defines our project of trying to hold a safer space for each other. This holding, for us, has been deeply regulating; producing security and trust in the face of destabilization. Four members currently remain, and our survival as a feminist entity depends upon this process.
Our web presence will likely remain less active as we embark on a larger journey of connection with other feminist groups and individuals; seeking to archive, understand, and make connections between other groups struggling to maintain momentum. Through an analysis of the web of power that seeks to make us doubt ourselves, seeks to drain and demoralize us, and relies on our acceptance of cynical immobilization to keep us effectively policed and contained, we hope to uncover an updated logic of resistance. A logic that speaks to where we are now and where we need to go.
Our website will remain as a bookmark to hold and display the work we've done so far. Please get in touch if you have thoughts or would like to dialogue with us about similar struggles you're having as an individual or in a group to build sustainable feminist networks; we'd love to hear from you. firstname.lastname@example.com
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Posted: May 17, 2017 06:32 AM PDT
Updated: May 17, 2017 06:32 AM PDT
Army Pfc. Bradley Manning, sentenced this week to 35 years in prison for leaking classified documents to WikiLeaks, said in a statement Thursday he plans to undergo hormone therapy and live as a woman named Chelsea. Here are 10 other things you may not know about the whistleblower. [ + - ]
1. He was born Dec. 17, 1987, in Crescent, Okla. [ + - ]
2. His mother is of Welsh descent, and he lived with her in Wales for a short period of time as a boy. His father was in the U.S. Navy and traveled a lot for work. Because his mother suffered mental health problems, he was often largely left to fend for himself. [ + - ]
3. He joined the U.S. Army in 2007 as an intelligence analyst and had Top Secret security clearance. [ + - ]
4. During basic training, Manning was bullied by his peers for being small (5 feet 2 inches) and his eccentric behavior. At one time, it was recommended he be discharged. [ + - ]
5. In July 2010, Manning is accused of leaking more than 250,000 classified military documents to WikiLeaks after becoming disillusioned with the military and the U.S. mission in Iraq. WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange releases some of the documents on his website and through partners. [ + - ]
6. Julian Assange claims the information Manning leaked helped spark the Arab Spring uprisings in the Middle East after the widespread corruption of Arab dictors and other leaders was exposed. [ + - ]
7. A hacker named Adrian Lamo gained Manning's confidence, then turned him over to the FBI in late May 2010. [ + - ]
8. Manning pleaded gulity to 10 of 22 charges in February 2013, and faces a sentence of up to 20 years in prison. A verdict on the most serious charge against him, aiding the enemy, is expected Tuesday. [ + - ]
9. Villified by some who think he betrayed his country, Manning also has a large support network of people around the world who see him as a courageous whistleblower. Some have sought his release, citing him as a hero rather than a war criminal. [ + - ]
10. He has struggled with his gender identity, identifying himself as gay by the time he turned 13. Near the time of the leaks, he spent a period of time dressing and living as an alter ego named Breanna and was beginning to feel he should live his life as a woman. [ + - ]
11. On May 17, 2017, Chelsea Manning was released from the United States Disciplinary Barracks at Fort Leavenworth in Kansas. Former President Barack Obama commuted Manning's sentence in January 2017. [ + - ]


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Warm Potato Salad and Mussels
2 shallots minced
1 tbsp minced garlic
1 tbsp Dijon mustard
2 tbsp red wine vinegar
¼ cup olive oil
½ cup sunflower oil
2 tbsp minced fresh tarragon
salt and freshly ground pepper to taste
1 pound new potatoes
2 pounds fresh mussels, scrubbed
¼ cup dry white wine
10 ounces mixed salad greens
To make the dressing, combine the shallots, garlic, mustard and vinegar in a food processor and process for 10 to 15 seconds, or until smooth. With the machine running, gradually add in the olive oil and the sunflower oil and process for about 10 seconds, or until well blended. Transfer to a small jar, add the fresh tarragon, salt and pepper, cover, and shake until blended. Refrigerate until ready to use.
Cook the potatoes in salted boiling water for 12 to 15 minutes, or until tender. Drain and let cool for 5 minutes. Transfer to a large bowl and toss with half the dressing. Let stand at room temperature for 2 hours.
Put the mussels in a large saucepan with 1 cup water. Set it over medium heat, cover and cook for 6 to 8 minutes or until the shells open. Drain the mussels and remove them from their shells. Discard any that have not opened.
In a large saucepan, heat the wine over medium heat. Add the potatoes and mussels and cook for 3 to 5 minutes, or until heated through.
To serve, divide the lettuce among 6 salad plates, spoon the potatoes and mussels over, and drizzle with the remaining dressing.


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Kirsten Dunst Gossip
Kirsten Dunst gossip, latest news, photos, and video.
Kiki & Garrett's next level
Keystone, Lisa Maree Williams/ Caroline McCredie/ Don Arnold/ Getty
Kirsten Dunst and Garrett Hedlund have been together for a while. They've been papped holding hands, out for breakfast, side by side with castmates on a red carpet... But how about on a carpet as a "couple"? First time, right? She's in Australia for Anchorman 2. Far as I know he's not in the movie (although there are a million cameos so if you correct me, I wouldn't be surprised). Full Story
Career Prospectus: Kirsten Dunst
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(Click here for previous installments of the Career Prospectus series.) Could you please do a Career Prospectus on Kirsten Dunst? I loved her as an actress with Drop Dead Gorgeous, Bring It On and Dick being the best! She blossomed with Sofia Coppola and got millions for Spiderman. Full Story
Workout Buddy: For or Against?
FameFlynet, Splash
I'm not sure about the whole 'working out with a friend' thing. I like the idea a lot in theory, but I'm not sure it works in practice. Sasha and I worked out together for the longest time. It was super fun but we were always trying to distract the trainer with stories and questions so we didn't have to hold our planks quite as long. Full Story
Girlfriends Edition: Amy & Aubrey/Kiki & Isla
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No Girl Sh-t here… Amy Poehler and Aubrey Plaza, co-stars on Parks & Rec, went to the movies together last night. It was Afternoon Delight. Aubrey makes a great bitch face, non? I feel like we've underappreciated her in this department. Earlier in the day, Kirsten Dunst and Isla Fisher hit the gym. Full Story
Kiki in Cannes but no Garrett?
Splash, Keystone
Kirsten Dunst arrived on a stopover at Heathrow today and the photo agency says she's heading to the Cannes Film Festival. She was there last year for On The Road with boyfriend Garrett Hedlund. No sign of him at the airport though he may be arriving later? Hedlund is in Inside Llewyn Davis which is premiering at the festival. Full Story
MET Most Disappointing Part 1: Kirsten Dunst
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Duana and I both groaned. Kiki D could have owned this thing, you know? Kiki D, who very rarely dresses for Reese Witherspoon's PEOPLE Magazine readers, seemed the perfect candidate to take over this red carpet with quirk and individuality and... Cleavage + a F-CKING FEATHER skirt is how she came. Full Story
Who will bring the Punk?
Wenn, Fame, Bauer, Dimitrios Kambouris/ Stefanie Keenan/ Getty
There will be a lot of safe tonight at the MET Gala, despite the Punk theme of the event this year. Most actresses in particular just don't have the imagination or the balls. The punk pressure then may be on the musicians. A press release was just sent out -- Gwen Stefani will be wearing a custom designed Maison Martin Margiela. Full Story
Romance in London
They say it's Paris, the city of love. For me it's London. Jacek and I ended our 10 year anniversary trip in London last year after stops in the Maldives and Dubai and there wasn't a minute of sunlight and it rained the whole time and …it was perfect. Here are Kirsten Dunst and Garrett Hedlund in London the other night on a rather typical date. Full Story
TIFF REVIEW: On The Road
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I can't wait to hear people's reactions to this movie. Director Walter Salles was faced with a daunting task, one that many might argue was virtually impossible to successfully accomplish: turn Jack Kerouac's barely fictionalized autobiography, On The Road, often referred to as one of the most important novels of the century, into a film that wouldn't crumble under the weight of such tremendously high expectations. Full Story
Holiday flowers and handholding
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Here are Kirsten Dunst and Garrett Hedlund in New York yesterday holding hands on the way to the market. It's sunny. She bought flowers and they walked home with their grocery bags and it's one of those postcardy movie montage moments you imagine with Dragonette lightly playing in the background. Full Story
Jake Gyllenhaal could take a cue from Chris Evans
That is a truly bizarre sentence to write. The last time Jake G had a movie in theaters was nearly eighteen months ago, last spring's Source Code. Since then, he's kept a relatively low profile as he recalibrates after his Movie Star dreams died a slow, inexorable death in 2010. For reasons I will never understand, you people wouldn't let him be a Movie Star (I say "you people" because I fully supported him as a blockbuster star and will always slightly resent everyone else for pushing Jake G aside in favor of Channing Tatum), so he has gone back to his roots in character-driven indies. Full Story


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Events and Programs
Children Art Workshop
Open Studio
June 22, 2013 - September 14, 2013
Informal art studio time for all ages. Adults may visit the exhibition and collection while children age 5 and up enjoy art activities. Children age 4 and under must have adult companion in the studio.


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The following information is interested for donors who are considering creating a new scholarship for students at Foothill College. All donations are received by Foothill-De Anza Community College District Foundation.
Thank you for your interest in giving to our scholarship program to benefit students at Foothill and/or De Anza Colleges. Donors may choose to establish their own endowed scholarship with gifts of $25,000 or more, or they can give a gift of any amount to one of our existing scholarship groups.
Endowed scholarships exist in perpetuity, providing student support now and for future generations. When an individual or organization establishes an endowed scholarship, the gift is invested as principal and the income distributed annually for scholarship awards. Endowments may be established with a $25,000 minimum gift: gifts should be made in consideration of the annual payout and the needs of the scholarship recipients.
Donors often ask that part of their annual gift be distributed to students as a scholarship and a portion be set aside to build an endowment. For example, the donor may pledge to donate $5,000 yearly for the next ten years and request distribution of the entire gift each year OR distribution of $2,500 yearly and investment of the remaining $2,500 into an endowment account.
Endowed scholarships provide a lasting tribute in honor/memory of loved ones and other exemplary individuals, and ensure students with the support necessary to achieve educational success.
Establishing Criteria for Endowed Scholarships
Scholarship committees on each campus select student recipients based on the scholarship criteria. Donors may wish to look over the existing scholarship groupings for criteria, but generally, criteria can include financial need, GPA, area of study, campus or community leadership, or transfer requirements. The Foothill-De Anza Community College District has a strong commitment to open access for all students. For this reason, selection criteria related to race, ethnicity, gender, citizenship or national origin are not acceptable, as they do not provide for the most inclusive initial applicant pool. The FHDA Foundation office is happy to work with donors in crafting appropriate and meaningful scholarship criteria.
Any gift amount is accepted for our Categorical Scholarships, simply choose the scholarship that is most compelling and appeals to you the most! For gifts of $1,000 or more, the donor's name will appear on our online scholarship application.
There are five categorical scholarships that are available and include criteria such as academic excellence, area of study, financial need, transfer requirements or having faced obstacles in their academic goals. Depending on the amount available, each category will offer anywhere from 1 to 20 scholarships of varying amounts.Academic Achievement


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The Performance Club put on a fantastic show this past Friday, April 18. There were a variety of acts including singing, acting, and a few instrumentalists. Musical styles ranged greatly, so there was something for everyone to appreciate and enjoy. At times, people in the crowd even started singing along to those catchy pop songs.
This year was the first year that the Performance Club show was held at the Student Center. Many friends, family, staff and faculty came to show their support. Even Dr. Hagerty and his wife Dr. Oksana Hagerty made an appearance. The president of the club was not able to attend in person, but he was able to watch the whole show through Skype. The audience liked being able to see Brian in the background during each performance, and he hopefully enjoyed the show from his vantage point.
This was the last performance show for many talented seniors, so it was a very bitter-sweet show. As always, Jack Callahan told many funny stories and had lots of last jokes to tell. Jack responded to crowd interaction, and at one point he even brought up alumnus Andrew Marvin for an impromptu storytelling session. It will be difficult, but someone will need to fill his role starting next year. Dylan Tallian, identified as Jack's intern, was auditioning for the part during this show, and the crowd encouraged him in his efforts.
All of the performers did a wonderful job, and it was definitely a show to remember.
~ Rachel Yellon
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Hi all,
So just last week I received my SE RotJ helmet from BM. The helmet is absolutely perfect, except for one thing...It seems to be too big for me. I feel like a Boba Fett bobble head when i wear it. Unfortunately I didn't know there were different helmet sizes out there. I figured all the top notch molds would be pretty much be identical when it came to size. I've been searching through the forums for a while trying to find what helmet would best suit me (I might do a ESB helmet too). Every forum that I've found seems to go over which helmet is best for a large head, but i have the opposite problem. I'm not a particularly short person, I'm 5'11", but my head is smaller than the average person it would seem. I've noticed that people seem to agree that FPH and MR are some of the largest, but I'm confused on where BM helmets fit into the size comparisons. Any answers or suggestions?


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Love Advice in 140 Characters or Less!
"I'm a huge fan of the handhold or the arm rub, but I would never hard-core kiss in public. Especially at school. Just…no."—Ben, 20, Columbus, OH
"The jealousy move is the worst! One time, a girl I was into started talking about other guys who were pursuing her. It made me feel like there was too much competition to even try."—Myles, 20, Mankato, MN
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