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Feb 20, 2013 at 8:11 pm #1299515
Does one stove have a micro regulator? Why does the one stove remain lit and not the other.
Is there fraud involved?Feb 20, 2013 at 10:27 pm #1956731
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The test is comparing two stoves with different internal designs. This is not fraudulent unless the intent is to fool the viewer.
An alky MUST have the alcohol boiling to get the flames out the side. No boiling, no pressure, no flames. That applies to any alky.
The White Box stove has the alcohol touching the bottom surface of the stove: sitting on the bottom. When you add cold water, the alcohol at the bottom is cooled to below boiling point. Since this is most of the alcohol, the stove dies.
The Cobalt stove does not die. Flames continue coming out. Therefore the alcohol cannot ALL be sitting on the bottom; some of it must be up the side and near boiling, to create the vapour and the pressure. This is a simple logical deduction (Jim). This can most easily be done with some sort of internal wick.
Comment: this much was obvious from the video. So then I checked around to see whether the Cobalt has an internal wick as predicted. Yes, it does.
Which is better? First, define 'better'.
Would the user normally wory about floating his stove in a bowl of water? Doubtful.
CheersFeb 21, 2013 at 6:56 am #1956789
Jim's thread about the Soto Microregulator made me think of the double wall stove and cold water video. A small change in design can make a big difference in performance of a stove in cold weather. The cobalt has wicking material within the walls that make it's jets light so quickly(fuel efficiency) The Soto regulator was surrounded with cold water just as the Cobalt and WBS. We surely don't do that out in the field. A small internal change in design can make a difference in performance.
It was indicated that the Soto video may have been fraudulant. Just wanted to say that a small change in design can make a difference.
The internal fiberglass wicking makes a big difference in "priming" time and the ability to remain lit when a cold pot of water is placed on the stove.
Not sure, but I think the WBS eventually switched to the internal wicking to improve performance. Maybe we can get Bill B. to chime in on his improvement.Feb 23, 2013 at 9:13 pm #1957946
The new model White Box Stoves have internal wicks. After adding icy water the White Box Stove did not go out. We added 7/8" of 36 degree ice laden water to the pan and the stove floated and continued to burn. Please people be smart.. do not do something foolish like this just to badmouth other stoves. Use common sense when you are using a stove.
There is nothing in nature that is equivalent to that except placing a stove in water and no one in their right mind (thinking personal safety here) would do that.
My guess is that most any stove with a wick will do the same thing. Don't get caught up in off the wall and possibly dangerous experiments like this.
Buy a stove, build a stove, whatever. It doesn't matter what brand or model just get out and have some fun. Enjoy the great outdoors. But do it safely!
Bill @ White Box StovesFeb 24, 2013 at 12:41 pm #1958174
The Cold Water and Fire demo worked for both of us. Just a way to show how a small modification to a stove could make it more efficient.
The stove makers in Japan must have made a small improvement to the Soto Micro-regulator. Now we have to ask why they would use the cold water ice cube demo :-)
Bill duplicated the internal wick design of the Cobalt and the ice water demo and is now ahead of the game. I'm flattered :-)
Dan @ zelphs-stoveworksFeb 25, 2013 at 6:03 am #1958410
Bill and others are invited to watch these videos that describe the procedures for imploding cans and just how safe the procedure is. Not saying this will ever happen if you did the experiment that Bill and I did with the WBS and Cobalt stove.
Keep in mind that Bill felt it safe enough to do the same experiment. If it works for Bill and myself it's safe. These are not off the wall and dangerous experiments as Bill might want you to beleive. Bill means well. Watch the videos:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/915737/implode_a_soda_can/Feb 25, 2013 at 7:46 am #1958449
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A typical pressure regulator requires a higher source pressure than what is delivers (think about the pressure regulator on your house water). The original design is an open loop system. You crack the valve and the gas that is delivered is dependent on the fluidic drag. As the pressure drops (ice water), the output flow drops. With the regulator adding ice will reduce the source pressure, but as long as the valve is open above a certain threshold, the output would remain pretty steady. And like all regulators, as the pressure drop below the threshold, the output would drop like the unregulated system. I suspect that the system would work fine on a new canister, the questions is will you get the same response when the canister is only half full? Below is a diagram comparing their designs. JonFeb 25, 2013 at 8:30 pm #1958736
Quote from Zelph: "Keep in mind that Bill felt it safe enough to do the same experiment"….
Please do not assume that because it is not so. I did not feel safe doing this experiment. I will never do it again and I will tell everyone I know to not do it. The "what if" factor is to great. "What if" factor like the cans in the links Zelph shows above… what if the stove I was working with did that… man you would have burning fuel all over the place. After seeing the videos above I am wondering if the stove I used to do the experiment is still in good enough condition to use or if there is metal fatigue or something that would make it explode or implode next time I use it. I am gonna retire that one for sure just to be safe.
No more fooling around with cold water and hot stoves for me. All the rest of you should heed the same…. safety before senselessness.
Bill @ White Box StovesFeb 26, 2013 at 6:20 am #1958796
Thanks Yon for the diagram. seeing is beleiving. We can clearly see the Soto has a complex flow regulating system compared to the common regulator on the right.
Soto states that 1/2 turn on the common regulator opens the valve to max output. It takes 1 to 1.5 turns on the Soto just to get the flow started.
Looks like the common regulator has a screw thread that governs the movement of a needle valve to control flow. The Soto has a complex spring tension system that regulates flow. Soto gives us the ability to micro-manage our fuel via the regulator. Much more user friendly.
The ice cube video has a place where Soto uses the word "almost" when describing "output" of the two stoves. we can speculate that the Soto has less output at maximum valve opening. (smaller orifice at valve assembly) Not positive but the Soto valve looked like it took 7 turns to get the valve wide open and fewer for the common valve.
Soto also states that the burner head is concave for max efficiency. Makes me think the head design can give a "visual" appearance of larger flame than the common stove burner. If the orifice of the Soto is smaller, the speed at which the gas flow hits the burner head is higher. Does that make the visual difference in the Soto video, dunno. Lots of things to consider before we start yelling wolf as seen by Hikin_Jim
Years ago Tony Beasely taught us it's more efficient for a stove to heat our water slowly. The Soto Microregulator gives us that ability in a more user friendly manner. The Soto has the manual micro adjusting feature on the valve. In Jim's thread the word "automatic" adjusting was being used by some. No such claim by Soto.
The internal design of the Soto and the Coblat stove is what sets them apart from the rest. The differences equate to more efficient fuel usage. The Soto gives the ability to micro manage our fuel. The Cobalt needs no priming to get the jets to ignite in 15-20 seconds so we can put the pot on. Other stoves like the WBS and the Bios need that priming for faster jet ignition. Faster ignition means more efficient, less fuel expended before putting the pot on.
I agree with Bill. Don't do the cold water test with the Cobalt, WBS and Bios stoves or any other stove that you might make in a DIY project. My "living on the edge" days are over. No more "pi$$in contests" for me.Feb 26, 2013 at 1:34 pm #1958962
Hey, Bill,
That's a really nice looking fish you've got there. What kind is it?
Regards,Feb 26, 2013 at 2:19 pm #1958979
First off I like your web site. Lots of good information out there.
The fish is just a carp. We bowfish a lot in Montana where they are a non-native species to our waters. This one weighted in at just under 30 pounds. They are also great fun to catch on a fly rod. Largest I've taken is 39 pounds.Feb 26, 2013 at 2:50 pm #1958993
Thanks, Bill.
Carp, eh? I caught one when I was little kid and my grandpa took me fishing up at Big Bear. It was 10#, 3oz. Darned near as long as I was tall. Grandpa had to help me land it. Ah, memories. Good times.
Take care,Feb 26, 2013 at 3:53 pm #1959015
Bill, are there any real fish in Montana :-)Feb 26, 2013 at 10:15 pm #1959137
There are real fish in Montana: trout, pike, walleye, bass, greyling, etc. Other than a few carp left to bowfish we sent the rest of the trash fish to Washington DC to spawn with the rest of the suckers in their own self polluted cesspool of politics.Feb 27, 2013 at 5:04 am #1959159
Bill, got any photos of some real fish you've caught? That goes for Jim also, any photos? Any real fish in California?Feb 27, 2013 at 10:29 am #1959263
Nothing but cute little minnows like this:
McLeod Lake, Sierra Nevada Mountains, California
The darned minnows here expect you to warm them up after you land them. Odd little fish. ;)
Feb 27, 2013 at 10:35 am #1959267
Of course my wife wan't much better than the "minnow" (that's my SMD Gatewood Cape she's wearing).
Pretty spot though.
Feb 27, 2013 at 5:15 pm #1959464
No good fish pictures but here is a picture of a mule deer whitetail deer cross buck I harvested last fall.Feb 27, 2013 at 9:15 pm #1959566
They cross? I didn't know that. How the heck does one tell?Feb 27, 2013 at 9:30 pm #1959569
Usually it is the whitetail buck mating with the mule deer doe. Ways to tell are from DNA testing and sometimes the body parts especially the tail will be different. In this case the cape coloration, facial features and big ears says mule deer and the horns and tail look like a whitetail.
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Some members of the 1% have shared messages of solidarity with the 99%. What goes into a sign that makes a lasting impression? Explore an activity to help your students understand—and create their own—powerful signs.
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This Visual Learning lesson will get your students thinking about how much information they want to know about where their food comes from.
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Eagle View students enjoy science museum activities
Representatives from the Science Museum of Minnesota visited Eagle View Elementary School on Wednesday, Feb. 6, and presented assemblies to all grades.
In March, the tables will turn and all of the school's fourth-graders will pay the museum a visit. An outside company is sponsoring the trip, which includes a sleepover among the exhibits.
Flint Hills Resources is the sponsor for the activities, part of its Science Matters Outreach program. Eagle View is one of 15 schools picked for the program, out of 125 schools that applied.
The Feb. 6 assemblies included a presentation about dinosaurs for school readiness classes, kindergartners and first-graders, and a presentation about solids, liquids and gases for all second- to fourth-graders.
On March 7-8, fourth-grade students will travel to St. Paul for a one-hour tour of the state capitol building, a pizza buffet, exploration of the museum, camping among the exhibits, breakfast, a presentation and a viewing of "Tornado Alley" in the Omnitheater.
Flint Hills Resources is a refining, chemicals and biofuels company with facilities in Minnesota.


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What a day for underdogs!
Or weeks, I should say. Shares of Cisco Systems, CSCO -0.8501259445843828% Cisco Systems Inc. U.S.: Nasdaq USD31.49 -0.27 -0.8501259445843828% /Date(1495659600255-0500)/ Volume (Delayed 15m) : 22731361 AFTER HOURS USD31.49 % Volume (Delayed 15m) : 786272 P/E Ratio 15.824120603015075 Market Cap 157451705588.977 Dividend Yield 3.683709114004446% Rev. per Employee 658209 More quote details and news » Intel, INTC 0.7250418293363079% Intel Corp. U.S.: Nasdaq USD36.12 0.26 0.7250418293363079% /Date(1495659600252-0500)/ Volume (Delayed 15m) : 17879183 AFTER HOURS USD36.08 -0.0399999999999992 -0.11074197120708748% Volume (Delayed 15m) : 2981074 P/E Ratio 15.704347826086957 Market Cap 168864742874.145 Dividend Yield 3.017718715393134% Rev. per Employee 570575 More quote details and news » and Microsoft MSFT 0.1310425160163075% Microsoft Corp. U.S.: Nasdaq USD68.77 0.09 0.1310425160163075% /Date(1495659600219-0500)/ Volume (Delayed 15m) : 13468613 AFTER HOURS USD68.77 % Volume (Delayed 15m) : 1198252 P/E Ratio 30.42920353982301 Market Cap 530244981945.958 Dividend Yield 2.268431001890359% Rev. per Employee 761693 More quote details and news » have been making up for lost time. Laggards in 2012, the trio this year has notched solid gains—on a surprising turn in sentiment.
Cisco (ticker: CSCO), Intel (INTC), and Microsoft (MSFT) are up 18%, 10%, and 21%, respectively, in the past month. Investors have been casting aside the fact that each is generating only modest growth. Some of the gains simply reflect animal spirits, the rush of money into tech equities that I noted two weeks ago ("Technology Stocks Shake Off Weeks of Bad News," May 6). But investors are also giving these old-timers the benefit of the doubt and betting that the companies are evolving, despite the conventional wisdom that they are fading away.
Cisco's fiscal third-quarter report Wednesday slightly exceeded what Wall Street had expected. It was the company's 11th consecutive quarter of meeting or beating both revenue and profit forecasts. In the past, that ability to more or less deliver failed to impress the Street. But in the past year, Cisco has reset investors' growth expectations, doubled its dividend yield, and clarified its capital-allocation plans.
Most important, this latest report followed absolutely awful ones from all of the company's competitors. In fact, Cisco seems to be taking share from rivals. Following particularly poor numbers from wireless vendor Aruba Networks (ARUN) Thursday, one sell-side analyst quipped that the company was "hit by Hurricane Cisco."
Cisco CEO John Chambers' goal is to be the No. 1 information-technology outfit. The lack of growth at IBM IBM 0.3157271591133329% International Business Machines Corp. U.S.: NYSE USD152.51 0.48 0.3157271591133329% /Date(1495659623872-0500)/ Volume (Delayed 15m) : 3283431 AFTER HOURS USD152.24 -0.269999999999982 -0.17703757130679956% Volume (Delayed 15m) : 448968 P/E Ratio 12.544932590831696 Market Cap 142831729173.588 Dividend Yield 3.9341682512622125% Rev. per Employee 191576 More quote details and news » (IBM), the M&A war at Dell (DELL), and a long, long restructuring effort at Hewlett-Packard HPQ 0.26371308016877637% HP Inc. U.S.: NYSE USD19.01 0.05 0.26371308016877637% /Date(1495659793619-0500)/ Volume (Delayed 15m) : 12047404 AFTER HOURS USD19.58 0.569999999999997 2.998421883219358% Volume (Delayed 15m) : 1428822 P/E Ratio 13.387323943661972 Market Cap 32106483342.2424 Dividend Yield 2.7922146238821672% Rev. per Employee 992898 More quote details and news » (HPQ) are certainly helping him.
Intel is also shining again. Its stock is up 16% this year. And the transition to a new chief executive, Brian Krzanich, who Thursday formally replaced Paul Otellini, is regarded as an intelligent one that will let the company focus on mobile-device markets, in which it is a laggard.
Intel finally seems to have the goods. Two weeks ago, it announced Silvermont, a new chip architecture for phones and tablets. Silvermont's arrival was hardly a surprise, but its tangible technical details were warmly received, even by the skeptics. The technology cuts power consumption, which most agree will make Intel more competitive with chip makers using technologies from ARM Holdings (ARMH).
Now that Intel has a new team, and new parts, the only thing that divides the Street is whether PC sales will grow at all this year. Intel insists they will; bears say they won't.
As for Microsoft, it is benefiting from a newfound optimism about the three-quarters of its revenue that comes from outside the Windows division.
Things started to turn for the company before it issued its fiscal second-quarter report on April 18. Despite a disastrous first quarter for PCs, Microsoft's sales of the Windows operating system were flat year over year, removing some of the worst fears. And other things appear to really be working.
Among them: Microsoft's business software, such as the SharePoint collaboration program, the SQL Server database, Dynamics business applications, and Office productivity tools (Word, Excel, PowerPoint).
Mark Moerdler, who follows the company for Bernstein Research, asserts that investors' attention is turning to Microsoft's progress in cloud computing, where it hosts software on its own or a third party's computers, and rents it to clients. That's a switch from the company's decades-old model of installing software on customers' computers.
Moerdler believes Microsoft is a close second in cloud-computing for enterprises, behind Salesforce.com CRM 1.2543790258786303% Salesforce.com Inc. U.S.: NYSE USD89.6 1.11 1.2543790258786303% /Date(1495659659511-0500)/ Volume (Delayed 15m) : 4497849 AFTER HOURS USD90.05 0.450000000000003 0.5022321428571429% Volume (Delayed 15m) : 211048 P/E Ratio 448 Market Cap 62946299223.8263 Dividend Yield N/A Rev. per Employee 354518 More quote details and news » (CRM), the standard-bearer for the rent-a-program industry. Microsoft can gain $11 billion to $19 billion in incremental revenue over the next several years as it moves more and more of its apps into the cloud, he maintains.
How does Microsoft find new money merely by shifting programs it already sells?
A lot of companies upgrade software only once every seven to 10 years, Moerdler observes. By getting those companies to rent, instead of own, Microsoft can charge them more frequently to maintain use of the software and to receive updates more frequently.
Among the things that give Moerdler confidence is that conversations with IT types have elicited remarks about some companies seeing as much as a 70% return on investment by just paying a rental fee and letting Microsoft do the heavy lifting of running the stuff.
Given that Microsoft is on track to make only as much as $2.6 billion in cloud revenue in the next 12 months, does the next several billion come easier or harder? In fact, the first half-billion was hard for Microsoft to generate, Moerdler opines, given that it was trying to change the attitude of a customer base inured to purchasing software. But "no one has the kind of installed base that Microsoft has," he observes, meaning that no one else in cloud computing has customers who have been hooked on its products for decades.
Getting companies to switch to a rental model, in other words, seems more or less a matter of discussing payment terms for the software giant.
HOWEVER, INTEL'S AND MICROSOFT'S transformations seem more tenuous than Cisco's. The duo still hang a lot of their wealth on the personal-computer market. Intel's revenue declined last year after climbing 24% the year before, and Microsoft's revenue growth slowed from 12% to 5% in its last fiscal year, both reflecting the slowing of the PC market.
Should you buy Cisco stock now? Even after the run-up, the shares fetch just 11 times next year's expected earnings, not counting the company's sizable cash pile.
CEO Chambers told me last week that the Street was wrong to wager against him when Cisco's growth was slowing. "Usually, when things are toughest for us is when we work harder and surprise people," he said. "That's when they should be betting on us."
Cisco looks modestly priced for a company that seems to be successfully changing from a survivor to a winner focused more on software and services. Cisco isn't there yet, but it's starting the journey from a good place.
Tiernan Ray can be reached at email@example.com or at blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily or www.twitter.com/barronstechblog.


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I purchased this magazine today at my local grocery store. I bought one for me and one for my daughter that has decided quilting is her thing!!!!
Welcome to the Quilting Board!
I purchased this magazine today at my local grocery store. I bought one for me and one for my daughter that has decided quilting is her thing!!!!
I bought the magazine yesterday at JoAnn and I love it. Interestingly enough, I was entertaining myself while I ironed yesterday by watching quilting tutorials and came across at least a couple of tutorials on the projects in this magazine. Made the quilts just come alive and makes the construction look so simple. Just love the big star quilt.
since I finished my laundry yesterday and it is raining here, I plan to sew ALL day. . Hope everyone has a great day!
Thanks for the "heads up". I didn't know about the new mag - just ordered it!
There may be times we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest. - Elie Wiesel
I have met Jenny Doan and she is very very nice.....and tall. Didn't expect her to be as tall as she is. She wore a bright red wig when we all gathered to go on a bus tour last year at her shop. I did not know about her magazine but put the words "Quilting Quickly" in Google and after scrolling down to those exact words, I was able to order it for $12.98 total. I only ordered one magazine, I didn't see a subscription anywhere, guess I need to check it out.
Will look for this magazine when I am out, have not been picking up many magazines lately, I go through times when I pick up a few, then go several months before they catch my attention. Now will find this one! Thanks for sharing this bit of news.
I just ordered her magazine. I love Jenny's saying and her style. I have made several quilts from her videos and her pillowcases. I'm always interested in learning quick and easier quilt making.
Another Phyllis
This life is the only one you get - enjoy it before you lose it.
At $10 for a single magazine I will pass and watch her videos on the internet for free!
Me to!! For $10.00 I can get a yard of nice fabric!!! Money is tight right now. heck it is always tight it seems
Worse not that I have retired. I miss my "mad money" but love retirement
Never look down at anyone
Unless you are helping them up!!
I subscribed right after Christmas. can't wait to see
I am also a Jenny fan but did not know about the new magazine. I will be going out today so I will definitely look for it.
Usually JoAnn discounts their magazines 10% jusy to keep you from using your coupons. I have subscribed to the Craftsy courses by Jenny also and they are really good. They have sales on them all the time. www.craftsy.com.


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I have 2 hives. I want to expand to 4 hives next summer, by doing splits, assuming both hives come out of winter okay.
May/June is probably the best time to split. If I take a frame of brood (w/nurse bees), a frame of honey, and stick a queen in a medium super (w/built up comb), how likely is that to succeed?
I'd probably have to buy southern Italian queens, altho I'd really rather a northern Russian (for my area), but my last Russian queen wasn't ready until July. I don't want to wait that long.
If you're doing a split with a new queen, do you have to slowly introduce her like with a new package?


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Lionel Electric Trains Announces BSA® 100th Anniversary Commemorative Union Pacific Engine Model
Bearing the road number 2010 and based on the ES44C model, Union Pacific has issued a commemorative locomotive engine to celebrate the Boy Scouts of America's 100th Anniversary, only the 14th time in its 150+ year old history. Lionel, an official licensee, will replicate the design and artwork of the actual Union Pacific engine which honors the 100th Anniversary of the Boy Scouts of America. The limited edition train will be featured in Lionel's 2010 Volume 2 Catalog and will be available by the holiday season.Just like the original Union Pacific No. 2010 Boy Scouts of America
® Locomotive, this engine will feature: the Boy Scouts of America® corporate trademark logo; the BSA® 100th Anniversary logo; and the words, "100 Years of ScoutingTM".For more information on the Lionel, please visit www.lionel.com.
Kurt Adler Introduces BSA® 100th Anniversary Ornament
In honor of the 100th Anniversary of the Boy Scouts of America, Kurt Adler has created a unique 4-inch high resin Boy Scouts of America® 100th anniversary ornament. The design features the 100th Anniversary logo and the BSA® fleur-de-lis in front of a backdrop of the American flag.For more information on Kurt Adler and where to purchase this commemorative ornament, please visit
W.R. Case & Sons Cutlery to Introduce Commemorative Red Boned Handle Pocketknife
W.R. Case & Sons Cutlery has designed an array of new collectible BSA® pocketknife products to be launched later this summer. The first of these new licensed products is the Merit Badge® Shadow Box with a W.R. Case Red Bone Jr. ScoutTM pocket knife enclosed. Stay tuned for more information!
The BSA is pleased to announce the following new licensees below. For a complete listing of BSA licensed, please visit the Official BSA Licensing site.AccessoriesJames Gordon Designs, of Fairport, New York, produces belt buckles.ApparelJunior Davis & Associates, of Pelham, Alabama, produces custom t-shirts and hats.Sporting GoodsWKRW Visual Arts, of Chattanooga, TN, develops and markets collectibles.
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Home › Forums › Campfire › Post-Trip Reports › John Muir Trail (JMT) Trip Report, August 2010
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Sojourn in the Range of Light
Two Weeks on the John Muir Trail
August 15-31, 2010
Virginia Lake
[What follows is a transcript of my journal I wrote while on the JMT in August 2010. Editorial comments are indicated by brackets. You will note that the early entries are not much more than notations of departure and arrival times. As I got further away from interactions with other people, my journal became more verbose.]
August 15, left Happy Isles at 1700, arrived Little Yosemite Valley 2000. [5.2 miles total] 1.2 mile side-trip to silver apron [this is between Nevada Falls and Vernal Falls. The JMT bypasses the top of Vernal Falls, so I took a detour to get there] & top of Vernal Falls. Tent up by 2005. Dark by 2020. Ate for dinner the sandwiches Barb made for me. [my sister Barbara had picked me up at the Sacramento airport and delivered me to Yosemite Valley]
August 16, left LYV at 0650. To Half Dome junction around 0730. [When I started up Half Dome,] the cables [were] scary, almost turned around. Your hands and your feet slip a bit before holding. Made it to the top just a little bit before 0900. Took pictures and explored for a while. Back to junction around 1040. Met Andy and Ben, also doing the JMT, but taking 3 weeks. We all got water at Cloud's Rest trail junction which I left at 1111 (and haven't seen them since). Intended on staying at creek just before Sunrise High Sierra Camp, but I got there a little after 1430, & I wasn't ready to call it a day. Within ten minutes of leaving, had SHSC in view. They have chlorinated water and solar toilets, and a friendly staff, so I hung out there about an hour. Gave the staff STS cookies, ["Secret to Success" cookies, a dense chocolate chip cookie. I picked up the recipe from a cookbook where a successful Pacific Crest Trail through-hiker attributed his success to these cookies, both for their nutritional powers and their bargaining prowess.] & they gave me two of their cookies. Drank Gatorade and read trail guide. Left around 1600, and found campsite at Upper Cathedral Lake at 1820.
Cathedral Peak and Upper Cathedral Lake
August 17 Out of UCL at 0715. Took side trail to Lower Cathedral Lake, then down to Tuolumne Meadows. Went to Parsons Lodge & Soda Springs, and got to Post Office by 1030. Left pack there and took 2-mile loop trail around [Lambert] dome, and climbed dome. Back at Post Office by noon. Got re-supply, hand sanitizer (not in resupply for some reason), beer, & batteries, and a salmon sandwich [from the Tuolumne Grill]. Arranged re-supply, not enough room [in bear canister], so I re-boxed excess food & the JMT geology book (I brought at last minute) and sent back to Portland. Call Jill [my wife] (Snickerdoodle [our puppy] has forgotten his house-training), got an ice cream for the trail, and left Post Office at 1330 . Crossed Lyell Fork [of the Tuolumne River] at 1430 & began long flat hike up Lyell Canyon. Did bare-foot hiking from 1430-1500 & another barefooter was going the other way! [Ray Jardine recommends a half-hour of bare-foot walking each day to toughen up fee] Hit Evelyn Lake Trail around 1640, and decided to push on to Lyell Base Camp. A couple of good spots already taken, & a huge horse camp across river. Stopped at camp 2.05 at 1802. [camp indicator from Elizabeth Wenk's excellent trail guide to the JMT]
Camp at Lyell Base Camp
August 18 Already LYV seems like a long time ago. Left Lyell Base Camp at 0715 and began ascent of Donohue Pass. Topped out around ten, and dropped into Rush Creek Drainage. Met Chris and two of his friends at Marie Lakes junction. They plan to exit JMT 8/29. [faster than me!] They powered by me as I trudged up Island Pass. Tougher than I expected, 650 ft. elevation gain. The tortoise caught the hare at Thousand Island Lake a little before 1330. They pass me as I hike barefoot from TIL to Ruby Lake. Refilled [water] bladder at Ruby, and didn't arrive at Garnet [Lake] until almost 1500. Spot I wanted was taken, but found a level spot on the south slope [of Garnet Lake] at 1515.
Banner Peak and Mount Ritter from Day 4 campsite
August 19. Up at 0530, on the trail at 0613, at southern JMT/PCT junction at 1107 (eleven miles). Toward the [Devil's] postpiles, took the short loop trip, then to the Red's Meadows campground bathhouse. Took a shower, did laundry. Then walked road to the "Resort". Bought beer, sunglasses, [my first pair broke in the pocket on my hipbelt] two postcards & stamps. Few choices in sunscreen, so I went without. Called Jill, and had a garden burger & shake with my beer while I wrote postcards to Jill & the folks. Then took hot, dusty trail to Rainbow Falls, surrounded by tourists. Took NW branch of trail back to JMT so as to miss the least amount of JMT. Got to "Third Junction" around 1530, and met Dan, a JMTer with a strong pace & no fixed itinerary. Will try to make Sat. morning VVR [Vermillion Valley Resort] ferry, so I may see him Sat. evening. The two of us got to Crater Creek (3 miles) by 1630, but I stopped to climb South Red Cone, back to Camp 4.17 by 1715. Met a party of two, father and son, son is a finance undergrad. [Also met a] Party of 3, going north, father, 2 sons. One son is undergrad accounting major, asked me about what my accounting career has been like.
Crater Meadows from top of South Red Cone, Mammoth Mountain in the distance
August 20. Rolled out of Red Cones at 0728, & trucked on! Deer Creek was buggy, got water at Duck Creek, & Purple Lake was nice. Got to Virginia Lake at 1240, & it is a very beautiful lake. Really a nice spot. Got down to figure how far to the next good campsite, & Bob came by. Older gent, done the JMT awhile ago. Married his "trophy bride" when she was 66, & for the last five years has taken her to the Sierras on backpacking trips. They live in Bend. [Oregon, not that far from Portland!] Spent 50 minutes at this lovely lake, and then pushed on to Squaw Lake, arriving at 1613. James & Theresa passed my camp at Squaw Lake. Will probably meet up at VVR, along with Dan, who walked on to Chief Lake.
Alpenglow at Squaw Lake
August 21. Off at 0705, and got to ferry landing by 1134. Not wanting to wait, I walked the five-mile trail to VVR, and arrived 1328. Got bunk in hiker's cabin, did laundry & shower, packed resupply (mailed excess back), called Jill, & wrote and mailed postcards. Had two beers (first one free) & got third beer just in time for dinner at 1701.
Vermillion Valley Resort
August 22. After breakfast and short wait, took ferry at 0900, & was at trailhead in 20 minutes. Started walking at 0928, and covered 18 miles by 1835. Feeling good. Marie Lake is very lovely, & a real nice place. [Camped at a site described in Wenk's guidebook as "a knob with view".]
Marie Lake
August 23. Off from the knob by 0728, made detour to MTR [Muir Trail Ranch, an easy, though expensive, resupply point] for fuel & water, [VVR had been out of fuel canisters for my stove, so I wanted to pick up a spare at MTR] checked out hot springs, which are warm. [not hot] Back to JMT by 1030 & saw Dan & walked with him for a bit. Took a dip in Piute Creek. Pulled into beautiful McClure Meadows 1632.
View from Camp at McClure Meadows
August 24. What a day! Off from McClure at 0705, and shut it down at 1840 in LeConte Canyon. And only 15 JMT miles, as I spent 4 hrs. climbing Mt. Spencer. I didn't recognize Sapphire Lake from the topo (though I did notice the sapphire color of the lake). So, when I got to Wanda Lake I backtracked 1.7 miles to Sapphire (cross-country down some class 3 rock), and commenced the climb. Hard climb. On top 2 hours after leaving Wanda, & took me almost 2 hours to get down & back to my pack. [took the trail on my return!] So 21 total miles today. When I got to Muir Hut at the top of Muir Pass I mentioned [to another hiker] how my sleeping pad had failed last night. So a guy resting at the hut offered to fix it, but I didn't know where the leak was. So I said I needed a bathtub, or I could rush back to Wanda Lake. The guy's friend said, " or you could go back to Sapphire for the third time." [hiker humor ] Anyway, no joy. But on the way down from Muir Pass, I stopped at the outlet of Helen Lake, got water and checked the pad for leaks in the lake. Found two slits on the underside. Patched them at camp with duct tape. We will see how it holds tonight. [it didn't]
Wanda Lake from Muir Pass
August 25. Oh my goodness! Another long day, off at 0705, finish at 1855, 20.4 JMT miles, but that's not the whole story. Mather Pass was a long, hard climb. 11.1 miles from the middle fork [of the Kings River] junction took me 6:45, with 4,030 of elevation gain. Made great time cruising down LeConte Canyon, but then the climb. Golden Staircase [famous grade in Palisades Creek Canyon] was as severe as I expected, but I did not know there would be a warm-up set of switchbacks, and a final set of switchbacks just when you think you're done. Left the trail junction [at middle fork] at 1000 and arrived at Lower Palisade Lake (6.9 miles) a little after 1330. Took on water and confirmed my sleeping pad patch is not holding. Headed off again about 1400, and finished the remaining 4.2 mile at 1645! [that is, slowly!] And then down the switchbacks on the other side, which are much milder than the north side. As I suspected, my planned campsite 1.3 miles past the pass is rocky with no trees. So I press on. At the 3 mile mark (from the pass) the next campsite is still too rocky to get tent stakes in. After about another mile, I spy a good site, even though I have to cross the creek/S. Fork Kings River to get to it. I am hopeful tomorrow will be easier, as the extra miles today should reduce the mileage tomorrow.
Upper Palisades Lake from near Mather Pass
August 26. On the trail at 0716 and done for the day at Dragon Lake at 1832. 20.3 miles, a long day. But I wanted to adjust my planning. I realized I had planned a 23+ mile day to Guitar Lake, followed by an 0300 wake-up for Whitney. So I figured if I could position myself to make Tyndall Creek by tomorrow, I'd have a much easier day to Guitar Lake. Problem is, between the last feasible camp in Bubbs Creek and the first good camp on Tyndall Creek is 7 miles and the final 2,000 foot ascent (in 3 miles!) to Forester Pass. Anyway, today the descent down Wood's Creek was strange, as the trees are very sparse. No evidence of fire damage. At the creek crossing, "Golden Gate of the Sierras" the tree cover is back, maybe even some Sequoias? [no, just junipers] Down to 8530 ft., [in elevation] and start climbing up to Rae Lakes & Glen Pass. Made good time, for going uphill. Got to Dollar Lake (original destination0 at 1630 & decided to push on: Walter P. Starr [author of the first guide to the John Muir Trail] thought the view from Dragon Lake was one of his favorites, so I decided to try for that. About a mile east of Upper Rae Lake, off the JMT, it turns out there is no real trail, just a cairned route. [marked with small piles of rocks, known as "ducks"] But I spotted the duck at the side of the JMT, & followed a faint tread through a meadow, and followed cairns up a hill, placing a few extra ducks to ensure I could find my way back. Dragon Lake was exquisite & isolated, & I was able to enjoy Starr's view, and a great alpenglow as the sun set.
Starr's View, at sunrise
August 27. Off at 0700 & back on the JMT by 0720. Started the climb up to Glen Pass, though I can't really call it a pass. Keep going uphill, above treeline, through the talus. Ascending a steep slope, I see a person on the ridge. That must be the pass, but it is more like just a ridge line that is lower than the surrounding peaks. Anyway, up to the ridge, which is quite narrow. Then down, down, to a nice view of Lake Charlotte, and I can see smoke from a forest fire downstream to the west. I thought I smelled smoke this morning at Dragon Lake, & I guess I did! Cross some flat terrain & start descending to Bullfrog Creek. I make a short (0.5 mile) excursion to the head of Bullfrog Lake to see another of Starr's favorite views.
View toward East Vidette Peak from Bullfrog Lake
Then back to the JMT & down to Vidette Meadows. Now begins the 3500 foot climb to Forester Pass. I had originally planned to camp at Golden Bear Lake in Center Basin, about 1.5 miles off the JMT. With the change in plans, I'll still like to make an excursion to check it out. However, there is no real trail, so I have to watch for a cairn or tread. But where I think the trail should take off, near Center Basin Creek, I only find thick forest. I don't feel like bushwacking with the schedule I have, so I push on. I pass the timberline camp at 1350. I wanted to pass this camp no later than 1400, so it is a good thing I didn't go to Center Basin. I begin the 2,000 feet of remaining ascent, and it is long and arduous. Part way up, I meet a trail crew just finishing work for the day. They are shoring up some rockwork first done in the 30s that is very impressive. Turns out their camp is at Center Basin! But the trail was about 0.2 miles north of where I had been looking. Finally I tackle the last 17 switchbacks up to the pass, where it is quite windy. At first all I see is a steep couloir on the other side, but then see the trail go uphill slightly before descending some remarkable switchbacks built on rockwork. As with Mather Pass, the south side of Forester has many steep switchbacks, & then you are on a mild slope. Four miles to trees & 4.5 miles to camp, so I walk on, and reach Tyndall Creek by 1822.
Camp at Tyndall Creek
August 28. Last night was cold! Probably in the high 20's. Had to put on more clothes in order to sleep, then overslept to 0630. On the trail by 0745. Ascending up the Bighorn Plateau, I pas the camp of Martin & Annette, a German couple from Darmstadt. Our paths cross several times in the next two days (unlike Bryan and Dan, who I haven't seen since McClure Meadows). When I reach the Plateau, I scramble up Tawny Point for the 360-degree view (near another of Starr's favorite views).
Looking North to Forester Pass from Tawny Point
The climb gets me behind the Germans, so when I catch up to them, I ask them if they have a repair kit for my sleeping pad. They do, so when I get to Crabtree Meadow, I wait for them, & try to patch the pad. Then I begin the climb to Guitar Lake. Just as I get to the lake, my camera stops functioning! Anyway, I decide to go on to a tarn [alpine lake] above Guitar so I have a bit of a head start [in the morning]. After a half mile, I find a tarn with a couple of guys camping. This is the only tarn on my map, so I stop at 1615 and camp. The Germans pass, & say they are going for the tarn 0.5 miles further up that is mentioned in the guidebook. They plan to get up at 0200 to be on the summit by dawn. My pad still leaks, so the two guys (now four, as their friends have arrived) let me use their patch kit. [which still does not stop the leak!]
August 29. Another very cold night, even colder than last night. I wear most of my clothes and close the tent down [close the tent flaps]. As I warm up, I open the door to reduce condensation. I have a hard time sleeping, but the alarm does wake me at 0300. Frozen water bottles, frost on the tent, & condensation inside. Pack in a hurry, no breakfast, & I'm on the trail at 0335. Less than 3 miles to the trail junction, but it is 2,000 feet up. Get to the junction at 0530, and already dawn is starting to break. And it is cold. However, on the climb up I started to overheat, so I took off my down jacket. At the junction I notice my water bladder tube is frozen solid. Off to the summit, less then 2 miles away, but another 1,000 feet up. Between pinnacles I check the progress of dawn, and realize I won't make the summit by sunrise. So at 0613, I find a good vantage point, & at 0618 the solar orb breaks the horizon. I saw a magnificent sunset last night, & now I see a great sunrise on the summit ridge of Mt. Whitney, only about half a mile from the summit itself. Then on to the summit. I approach the hut about 0645 just as Martin and Annette are leaving. I have them take a photo of me with the hut in the background, and then we go in the hut so that I can give them my email address.
At the summit of Mt. Whitney
It is very cold and windy, & all my fingers are numb despite my gloves. There are six or seven other people in the hut (after Martin and Annette leave) trying to get warm. Rather miserable. After a bit, we all leave. I take a group photo of four of the guys, & I briefly have the summit to myself. But it is too cold to stay. I walk briskly back to the junction, but now have a decision to make: should I go cross-country 2 or 3 hours to Sky Blue Lake, called by some the most beautiful lake in the Sierras, that has a great sunrise off surrounding peaks, or should I go to Trail Camp, which has the option of a short pre-dawn scramble to a good vantage point of sunrise off Mt. Whitney? The problem with Sky Blue Lake is that the route out goes down a couloir [gully] to Mayan Lake. From reading the route guide & talking to the Crabtree Ranger, this couloir sounds rather sketchy, especially as a solo hiker. I could just do an out-and-back to Sky Blue & return to Trail Crest by the same route I take in. This route has some scree & talus [loose rock], but is well within my capabilities. But I have heard there is a possibility of snow tonight, & more sub-freezing temperatures. As my fingers have just gotten warm again, this prospect is not very appealing. The Sky Blue option was a way to add another day to my JMT adventure, but I am just about adventured out. So I head down to Trail Camp, down the 98 switchbacks. Trail Camp is right at the bottom of the switchbacks, but it is cold, windy, & treeless. I decide I want to spend my last night of the trek among trees, so I continue down, releasing the idea of a dawn reflecting off Whitney. It also seems way to early to stop [1000 or so]. So, I don't stop until the very last campsite , 2.5 miles from the trailhead, at 1232. Lone Pine Lake, a very pretty place.
The switchbacks down to Trail Camp (first lake); Consultation Lake (large lake); Lone Pine Lake (barely visible past Consultation Lake)
August 30. Off by 0635, and at the trailhead by 0752. Pack weight 23.5 pounds, 22 pounds after dumping trash & waste. Easy hitch to Lone Pine from Doug & Lisa, after a great conversation with the Doug that runs the Whitney Portal store & makes HUGE pancakes. About 20 minutes in Lone Pine to catch ride with another Doug going to Burning Man. Then short ride to Mammoth itself, in town by 1330.
Gear List
Gear: Weight (oz.)
Pack ULA Circuit 40.4
Tent TT Contrail 21 sq.ft. 24.5
Sleeping bag Marmot w/dry sack 32.0
Sleeping bag liner 4.75
Sleeping pad Thermarest Prolite Small 11.0
jacket Marmot Nano 8.0
Jet-boil Jet-boil 21.0
wool shirt Montbell Ex Light Down Jacket 5.7
containers Camelbak bladder+1.5L Cantene 9.0
first aid/survival first aid/survival 20.6
river driver shirt icebreaker layer 9.0
book book 5.5
inner pants BodyFit 200 leggings 7.5
headlamp headlamp Petzl E+Light 1.6
toilet paper toilet paper 2.0
Cozy for freezer bag cooking 1.0
clothing bag ULA Excursion Sack 1.3
BearVault 41.0
socks Icebreaker (1pr.) 2.5
Icebreaker cap 1.0
gloves 2.0
Inline filter 2.0
trail guide 3.0
maps 1.0
synthetic brief 2.0
spork 0.5
lighter 1.0
Aqua Mira 0.5
Rite in the Rain mini notebook 0.7
Montbell trowel 1.4
Spectra cord 1.0
3 1 gallon plastic bags 1.0
hand sanitizer 1.0
Muir Trail Atlas 1.0
Weight before food and water: 16.76
water Camelbak+1.5L 120.69
food 36.80
Food and Water: 9.84
Pack Weight: 26.61
Boots NB 1520GT 30.0
Hat Tilley LT6B 3.6
socks Icebreaker (1pr.) 2.5
silk t-shirt 4.9
synthetic brief 2.5
Pants 14.0
bandana 1.0
Titanium Goat trekking poles 6.4
sunglasses 0.8
watch 1.0
whistle w/headlamp 0.0
knife 2.0
camera Pentax E70 5.6
Total Worn: 4.64
Skin-Out Weight: 31.25
first aid/survival:
first aid 2.00
sunscreen 0.50
lip balm 0.15
compass 1.00
signal mirror 0.50
toothbrush 0.50
toothpaste 1.00
comb 0.10
matches/lighter 0.30
pen 0.10
floss 0.50
cash and ID 0.30
extra ziplock bags 0.10
foot powder 1.00
duct tape 1.00
no ace bandage 0.00
metal match 1.00
firestarter 1.00
reading glasses w/case 1.50
peppermint soap 1.00
phone calling card 0.10
ibuprofen 0.50
cell phone 4.00
alarm watch 1.90
quantity Main Food:
2 Mountain House 4.50 9
4 logan bread 2.00 8
4 gorp 4
2 Clif bars/151 Bars 2.40 4.8
2 "backpacker bites" 1.00 2
2 smoked gouda 1.00 2
2 Instant breakfast/milk 1.50 3
2 Will Bars 2.00 4
36.8 oz.
2.30 lbsJan 28, 2011 at 2:46 pm #1689504
Ken HelwigBPL Member
@kennyhel77Locale: Scotts Valley CA via San Jose, CA
Awesome report David, and thank you for sharing! This has gotten me even more excited about my JMT trip this summer!Jan 28, 2011 at 3:50 pm #1689524
Nice report.
–B.G.–Jan 29, 2011 at 9:46 am #1689793
Ryan CommonsMember
@ryancommonsLocale: Bay Area, California
Great report. I really like that you copied it out of your journal on the trip. Can you share about your journaling practices on the trail. I've never been great about taking the time to document a trip in writing and it is not the same when I try to write it all when I get home; post trip journals lack a lot of the experience.
RyanJan 29, 2011 at 5:02 pm #1689927
James EnnisMember
@jimennisLocale: South
Great trip report. I'm planning a JMT hike this summer and always glad to read others comments on their trips.
Any chance of sharing that cookie recipe. I'm always on the lookout for new ways to enhance the menu.Jan 29, 2011 at 5:12 pm #1689935
It seems as though you have a number of photo captions without the photos. Maybe that was intended, or maybe not.
–B.G.–Jan 30, 2011 at 6:30 pm #1690311
Journaling Practice: This is actually the first time I've journaled on the trail. I written trip reports, but usually months after the trip. On this trip, I had a "Rite-in-the-Rain" all-weather journal 391-M, 24 pages, which was not enough. The last two days were written on the back of a map some other hiker gave me! That said, I would just try to write a bit every day as I got into my bag, no more chores, just a little writing. Some days were rather terse, as I was a bit tired and ready to turn off the head lamp. A couple of days I missed completely, but I made sure I got caught up the following night. Too often one can lose interesting details when one gets removed from the immediacy of the experience.
Photo Captions: Yes, when I transcribed the journal into Word I inserted a photo for each day, and gave the photo a caption. When I copied the Word document into the BPL blog, it did not copy the JPGs. Any advise on this would be appreciated.
Cookie Recipe: this recipe is from Lip-smackini' Backpackin' by Tim and Christine Conners, which along with Freezer Bag Cooking, by Sarah Svien Kirkconnell, have enabled me to move beyond Mountain House and prepare virtually all my trail food at home:
4 c. butter/margarine
3 eggs
1.5 c white sugar
1.5 c brown sugar
4 T vanilla
3 c flour
4 t baking powder
1 c wheat bran
3 c oats
1.5 c walnut, chopped
3 c semisweet chocolate chips (or raisins)
Cream butter and sugar, add eggs and vanilla. Mix dry ingredients together, then blend with butter/sugar mixture. If dough is too runny, add more oats. Drop teaspoon-siz balls on greased baking sheet and bake for 10 to 12 minutes. 133 calories/ounce.Feb 18, 2012 at 10:30 am #1841214
I don't know whether you are still monitoring this thread, so I may try elsewhere too.
I like the sound of your trip. I did HI to Whitney last year in 13 days with Half Dome. I am going again this year, 2012, but want to take a little more time to explore around a bit and climb some peaks. Would you still recommend the same peaks, or would you have some other suggestions? Maybe Mt Solomons or Black Giant from Muir pass for instance? Split Mountain?
I think I was lucky with the weather, sun almost the whole way and no wind. Had a night on Whitney, and not even freezing.
John.Feb 18, 2012 at 10:52 am #1841227
John, When are you heading out on the JMT this summer? I will be heading out with a group of 3 or 4 starting in August doing some of the PCT and combining it with a JMT trip in the middle. We are looking at maybe trying the mountaineering route as an alternative to heading back up the main Whitney Trail after leaving Lone Pine. We are shooting for an Aug. 11th date and heading NOBO. Maybe we will cross paths along the way. Have a great hike.Feb 18, 2012 at 11:20 am #1841248
Robert, I'm starting from Yosemite on 29 July for maybe 16 days, depending where I go. Looks like we'll cross around Glen-Forrester, would be cool if we met up! I'll be the grey- beard on my own. Two more questions for you : 1. I was camping high but still had min temps of 45'F apart from two frosts. Was it unseasonably warm, or are lower temps the norm? Last time I had a PHD 23'F bag and was too warm, so am thinking about a Chisos quilt this year. 2. Does a JMT permit cover peaks?Feb 18, 2012 at 11:48 am #1841259
"Does a JMT permit cover peaks?"
I am not aware of many permit requirements for hiking up any peak in the Sierra Nevada. The one possible exception might be Half Dome in Yosemite. There are some special areas where the trail to the peak requires a special permit, e.g. Whitney. However, there aren't many of those. A JMT permit allows you to be anyplace along the JMT. If you dropped your pack behind a bush and then ran off to bag some peak, e.g. Mount Goddard, nobody will say anything. To be on the safe side, you would want to leave your pack well out of sight, and leave all of your food in a bear canister that was away from the pack.
–B.G.–Feb 18, 2012 at 1:37 pm #1841291
+ 1 to what Bob said on the peak-bagging.
As far as temp ratings on your bag, that is one that is different for everyone. I am a fairly warm sleeper and get away with a 32 degree WM bag, but I have been chilled in it before. It does cover %90 of my sleep needs though as I can add layers when the temps dip down, or we are camping higher up.
I will keep an eye out for you as well. When it gets closer to time to go, and we have our itineraries set a bit more, shoot me a PM and we can estimate about where to look for one another. We will be going about 24 – 28 miles per day once we get on the main trail. I have a 'loose' itinerary now, but we are waiting to see what the rest of winter holds for us on doing the mountaineering route or not. We don't want to carry the extra gear for doing a more technical climb if we don't have to.Feb 18, 2012 at 1:56 pm #1841304
Thanks Bob and Rob re the peak bagging.
As for the overnight, if you can just tell me what the typical temperatures might be at 10,000-11,000ft in an average year first half of August, then I can assess the right bag for me. Eg have you had many frosts on the high slopes, (not valley bottoms)?Feb 18, 2012 at 2:06 pm #1841312
John, you might want to re-phrase your question.
Toward the south part of the JMT, the valley bottoms are around 10,000-11,000 feet, and the high slopes go up to 13,000. It is lower in the north part.
You'll see lots of good weather nights when the dawn temperature is maybe 35-40 F. Then there will be a few when it dips down to 30 F. When a storm blows in, you might possibly see it dip to 20 F. Unfortunately, when a storm blows, the wind chill can make it seem worse.
I typically equip myself with a 30 F bag, and with warm down clothing, I will make it through a 20 F night. But that is just me.
–B.G.–Feb 18, 2012 at 2:30 pm #1841318
Good answer, Bob, thank you.
John.Feb 18, 2012 at 6:53 pm #1841405
Hi John. I think I really didn't quite understand the question on the temps. I have many nights over the years of hiking in the High Sierras where I wake up to ice in my water bottle. I don't carry a thermometer, so I don't really track specific temp. ranges, I just know if there is ice floating in my water bottle, it was at least freezing that night. Those are the nights that I will slip on my Primaloft jacket for some extra insulation!Feb 22, 2012 at 2:15 pm #1843133
Hi all,
On my JMT trip in 2010, it was rather cold (below freezing) my nights at Tyndall and above Guitar Lake. When I summited Whitney at dawn on 8/29, it must have been in the high '20s with strong (25mph) winds!
So, Robert, I am also doing the PCT/JMT NOBO this August. My itinerary:
8/11 Fly into Mammoth Lakes, hitch to Lone Pine, stay at hostel.
8/12 Pick up permit and hitch up to Cottonwood Lakes trailhead. Over New Army Pass and cross-country to Sky Blue Lake (in Miter Basin south of Whitney).
8/13 Cross-country over Crabtree Pass and up to Discovery Pinnacle. Summit Whitney and take JMT to Wallace or Wright Creek.
8/14 Over Shepherd Pass and Junction Pass to Golden Bear Lake in Center Basin.
8/15 Center Basin to above Twin Lakes (before Pinchot Pass).
8/16 Twin Lakes to Lower Palisade Lake.
8/17 Lower Palisade Lake to Sapphire Lake/Evolution Lake.
8/18 Sapphire Lake to Marie Lake (simply stunning there).
8/19 Marie Lake cross-country to Lou Beverly Lake, down Bear Creek Trail to VVR.
8/20 VVR up Graveyard Meadows to Goodale Pass, down to Fish Creek, and back up to Virginia Lake (one of my favorite places on the trail).
8/21 Virginia Lake to Agnew Meadows (true PCT route).
8/22 Agnew Meadows to Lyell Creek crossing.
8/23 Lyell Creek Crossing to Upper Cathedral Lake.
8/24 Upper Cathedral Lake to Happy Isle, via Cloud's Rest and Half Dome.
Sounds good to me. Perhaps I will see you along the way. I'm 57, look like my avatar, and I'll be hiking with my ULA Circuit backpack.
Dave PexFeb 23, 2012 at 5:39 pm #1843781
David, we will be heading down to start our hike August 11th, What time does your flight arrive in Mammoth? We may be able to give you a lift to Lone Pine. We will be starting from Reno pretty early in the morning hittng the Mammoth area around 9 – 10 AM. We are looking at doing the Mountaineering Route right now, as the snowpack is so low, I think this is a great year for cross country if you don't want to pack crampons and ice-axes. We will be getting a late start, but are only heading to Upper Boy Scout or Iceburg Lake for the first night. I'm pretty excited. One of the guys I am hiking with has done the route you are going to be doing over New Army Pass and Sky Blue Lake and he says it was fantastic! Have a great trip. PM me if your timing looks like it may work out on the ride, otherwise, it is pretty easy to 'thumb' a ride in that area.Feb 24, 2012 at 12:37 am #1843992
Thanks for the offer! Unfortunately, I won't be arriving at the Mammoth airport until 5:30PM on the 11th. I don't think I'll have much trouble hitching, as long as I get a ride before it gets dark.
In 2010, I hitched from Lone Pine (after an easy hitch from the Portal) to Mammoth and got a ride rather quickly with a guy going to Burning Man! Not so lucky this year, but I do not anticipate any troubles.
Happy Trails!
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Bend residents rally to help out vandalized parks
Park district flooded with calls from community
BEND, Ore. - There may only be a few people repainting the vandalized boat at Harmon Park, but behind Bend Park and Rec stands an army of support.
"It's that time and effort that people want to put in to make this right again -- it's exceptionally impressive," Mark Ellington, the park district's facilities and construction manager, said Monday.
Two of the park district's parks were tagged with graffiti over the weekend.
Graffiti covered Harmon Park's beloved boat, and it was scrawled across a wall at Al Moody Park.
Park officials say dealing with vandalism is routine, but the love pouring from the community is a nice surprise.
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NewsChannel 21 received more than 150 comments on Facebook postings -- people who want to help and a community both outraged and saddened.
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#1 Mon 12 Feb 07 11:35am
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GELATIN LEAVES - help please
A recipe calls for 3 leaves of gelatin. How many grams or ounces is that please? I cannot buy leaves - only powder.
Cheers to all ..................... JRM
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Re: GELATIN LEAVES - help please
A look at my kitchen cabinet tells me this:
A package of leave gelatin contains 12 leaves (12 g total) and the whole package is good for 1 liter of liquid.
My powdered gelatin package does not need heating, so it may not be the same as yours. There the package contains 30 g is good for 1/2 liter of liquid.
Rather than trying to go by how much the gelatin sheets weight you should go by the recommendations regarding the amount of liquid they are good for. 3 leaves of gelatin should be good for 250 ml / 1 cup of liquid (according to package). See what your powdered gelatin package says and use as much as it wants you to use for 250 ml of liquid.
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Recycled Rides onlineWashburn Tech.Read about the Midwest Training Center at Washburn Tech, which opened this spring
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Washburn Tech and Manhattan Area Technical College were the first and second schools in the nation, respectively, to participate in the National Auto Body Council's Recycled Rides program. On Thursday, Washburn Tech presented its fourth refurbished vehicle and Manhattan Area Tech presented its second. The fifth Washburn Tech Recycled Ride will be presented Friday morning at 9:30 a.m. on the Washburn Tech campus in collaboration with its 14th Annual Car Show.
Governor Sam Brownback praised the commitment and action of the students, instructors and supporters from both institutions.
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Susan Carter received the car repaired by Auto Collision Repair students at Washburn Tech. Donated by Brad Clark and his wife, Pam, the 2007 Kia Sportage received front end damage after the Clarks son, Tanner, hit a deer. Tanner was uninjured in the accident. The deer walked away, said Brad, who is a computer networking instructor at Washburn Tech.
It was through his relationship with Eric Showalter, Auto Collision Repair instructor at Washburn Tech that the Clark family decided to donate the vehicle.
"It was going to cost too much to fix it," Clark said. "I was talking to Eric and he said 'That sounds perfect for us.' That was it."
Dozens of students, professional mentors and instructors at Washburn Tech got the crossover vehicle back to pre-accident condition during an April Repair-a-Thon and subsequent volunteer hours.
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Carter was nominated to receive a vehicle by Dawn Zabala, her case worker with Sheltered Living, Inc. Carter's nomination was selected by a group that included representatives of several area non-profit agencies.
"She had been piecing cars together for the last four years," Zabala said. When Carter's third car in four years died in January she didn't have the resources for another one – especially not another money pit. She began to take the bus to and from her job at TARC, Inc., to the grocery store or to visit family members.
"I got a call from the United Way and was told to call (Washburn Tech). I called and said 'Is this really true? I get a car?' He said it was. I just jumped up and down," Carter recalled in an interview.
Carter told the crowd gathered at the Capitol on Thursday that she was thrilled to receive the car and regain her independence.
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When the cover was removed from the refurbished light green 2007 Kia Sportage, Carter gasped and said: "Oh!" in a tone of shock and excitement. As she turned the key in the ignition she smiled and told Showalter "Oh, my God! I love this vehicle."
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By Rasheed
from Inglewood
About Me Classic, Comfort-oriented, High-end shopper, Practical, Stylish
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Comments about 7 For All Mankind Raglan Hoodie in Charcoal:
Overall good product.
Bottom Line Yes, I would recommend this to a friend
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My new favorite hoodie!
By Fox
from Seattle, WA
About Me Classic, Comfort-oriented, Practical
Love this hoodie, very soft and stylish! Fits well, not overly loose, but not too tight either. Haven't washed it yet, so not sure how that may change it, but I'm happy so far!
I love it
By Dave
from Nashville, TN
About Me Comfort-oriented, High-end shopper, Practical
Great to wear with a pair of jeans on a cool day or just around the house. Fabric is very soft and comfortable, but the elasticity of the cuffs won't keep them on your forearms if you like to wear the sleeves pushed up. Overall, I really like the item.
I would buy this product again and again
By R of Philly
from Philadelphia, PA
About Me Classic, Comfort-oriented, High-end shopper, Stylish, Trendy
I saw this product and tried on in store but they didn't have my size. It was the most comfortable hoodie I have EVER put on. I had to order it online and I couldn't be happier with my purchase. Thank you 7fam!
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RISE - Our rise measures from the bottom of the waistband to the seam of the crotch
INSEAM - The inseam of each leg is taken from the seam at the crotch of the bottom of the pant. It measures along the inside seam of the leg.
LEG OPENING - The leg opening indicates how skinny or wide the bottom of the jean is. The smaller the leg opening, the skinnier the area at the ankle.
WAIST - Measure around the narrowest part of your torso.
LOW HIP - With your feet together measure around the fullest part of your hips/rear.
THIGH - With legs slightly, measure around the fullest part of your thigh.
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