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The Harrison report: it's good that it is public
Original post made by Diana Diamond, Palo Alto Online blogger, on Apr 25, 2007
And the report, to its credit, is specific, and indeed shows that there were many reasons why Harrison received a three-week suspension without pay. In the public employee working world, I have been told that such a suspension, particularly without pay, is the step before termination.
I think there are two facets to Harrison's personality. One part of her is the efficient, intelligent, hard-working person who has been running this city very effectively from day-to-day. She is the hands-on person who knows exactly what is going on and who can tell you what is happening. As a member of the press, I have appreciated her candor.
But there is the other part of Harrison that can shut you off immediately. I know from my previous job at the Daily News that if our paper wrote something she did not like, calls from reporters were not returned. I once wrote a column where I referred to her friendship with Police Chief Lynne Johnson, and since that incident a year-and-a-half ago, she has refused to talk to me – even though the Mercury-News had run an entire column about the friendship.
According to the report, Harrison "engaged in a pattern of disrespectful and offensive behavior toward employees (since 1995) by publicly rebuking and berating them in front of others," and had problems working with three of the city's top officials – City Manager Frank Benest, City Auditor Sharon Erickson and City Attorney Gary Baum. She was suspended for creating "a culture of fear" at city hall. The report said, for example, that if Erickson issued an audit that was critical of some department reporting to Harrison, that the assistant city manager would not talk to the auditor for months.
Harrison also engaged in "vindictive and retaliatory conduct toward employees you (Harrison) qHR feel may have wronged you," Benest said in the memo released Tuesday.
Life at City Hall can be full of challenges, conflicts and disagreements, and the first lesson is that disagreements are not necessarily bad and certainly do not need to be personal.
Harrison has apologized to the three, and has promised to change her behavior. That's a good first step, and I wish her the best.
I also am glad the report is public. Since the disciplinary action occurred, rumors have been circulating around the city wondering what Emily did, and the rumors were worse than the report itself. Now we know the facts, and can all move forward together.
Comments (32)
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Apr 25, 2007 at 9:09 am
Now if only the Board of Education had been that brave in confronting the problematic atmosphere caused by Mary Frances Callan.
a resident of Professorville
on Apr 25, 2007 at 10:52 am
I read that Harrison also criticized some man's relgion and political party. Is this true?
If it is true, shouldn't this be referred to the Human Rights Comission in Palo Alto?
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Apr 25, 2007 at 11:13 pm
Dan, Why is it that some people want to continue the hurt?
a resident of Professorville
on Apr 26, 2007 at 6:03 am
Swami, if Harrison did, indeed, harrass some fellow because of his religion and his political beliefs, this is a form of hate. I think the HRC should look into it. If it is true, she should be summarily fired. It would be too hurtful to keep her as one of our paid employees. It would mean that we tolerate hate.
a resident of another community
on Apr 26, 2007 at 6:27 am
Even worse, according to the City Manager's disciplinary memorandum (see the text post on Palo Alto Online) she made mocking statements regarding individuals because they were Catholic, "fundamentalist", Republican, and/or male! Ms. Harrison was simply out of control, inapporpriately empowered, and this had been going on for more than a decade. The question is why did it take so long to make her accountable for her behavior?
a resident of Barron Park
on Apr 26, 2007 at 7:58 am
I guess I was just surprised to find that there are Republicans and Christians working for Palo Alto. I figured it must be some kind of typo.
a resident of Professorville
on Apr 26, 2007 at 5:17 pm
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a resident of Barron Park
on Apr 26, 2007 at 9:35 pm
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a resident of College Terrace
on Apr 26, 2007 at 10:49 pm
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The reporting out of this current material is irresponsible. How does the Weekly think this will impact supervisory oversight at city hall? From now on, every word and nuance of a supervisor will be weighed with this incident in mind. How much will that imjpact city efficiency? How much will it _cost_ our taxpayers in lost efficiencies?
The Weekly's Publisher needs to start thinking hard about this, and stop hiding behind "the public's right to know" as an excuse to sell more eyeballs to advertisers, no matter the content. This is journalism at its pathetic worst.
btw, I in no way am defending any of the alleged abusive actions committed by the city staffer in question. Keeping in mind that there is another side to many of the repotage in that report.
The person disciplined _was disciplined_. Her name has been smeared all over town, and Diana Diamond, one of the people who asked for that smearing, is now wishing her victim well. If there is hypocrisy in any of this, Diana owns a lot of it.
This is a low point for the Weekly. What good does this do except create interior dissension, and make internal city management more difficult to control? What if there are following lawsuits, even if they're not won by the plaintiffs. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]
From this point on, I wouldn't blame the city one bit for stonewalling the Weekly. What dose the city have to gain by offering up information?
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There has been no _deep, systemic_ problem at city hall re: this issue. Contrast this issue with the systemic problem caused by PAUSD's executive team. Now THAT's news, because the entire entrerprise has been seriously compromised by rank incompetence in personnel policy. That is NOT true of city hall.
Of course, the Weekly will go on to continue to collect from advertisers, some of whom will be sold on the strength of of hits to this web site. I always thought the Weekly was a cut above. Lately, I've begun to question that assumption.
Anyone in the newspaper business knows that the national dailies are struggling, and that the real nugget left in journalism- in print - is local news. The Weekly and the Daily have been playing up this trend, and slowly but surely there has been a slow loosening of judgement on issues like this, with local papers trying to pretend they're "breaking news" by going after junk like this. What a sad legacy.
a resident of Midtown
on Apr 27, 2007 at 5:12 am
Harrison should have been fired long time ago.
However, it is clear that it is quite difficult to fire a public employee. What the city management could not do, publicity of this whole matter will do so.
a resident of Professorville
on Apr 27, 2007 at 7:04 am
Emily Harrison certainly has her impassioned protectors (e.g. Mike). If anyone brings up her biases and harrassment and hateful remarks as a public administrator, they call THAT person a hate monger. Harrison has been protected for years at City Hall by the likes of Mike. At long last, she needs to go.
a resident of another community
on Apr 27, 2007 at 8:51 am
Ms. Harrison's conduct is well documented in Mr. Benest's disciplinary letter posted on Palo Alto Online. What appears to be Palo Alto's implicit PC code, until very recently unchallenged, is that its not really a big problem if an individual's faith (if Christian), political views (if conservative), and/or gender (if male) is mocked. Hopefully this ugly experience will be a cause for reflection about the issue of PC double standards in the workplace and in public discourse. Respect for the dignity of individuals should not be conditioned on politically correct faith or lack thereof, PC gender or sexual orientation, or PC political convictions. Its sad that these obvious facets of tolerance, a core American value, have to be re-learned in PC towns like Palo Alto. And then only after an ugly scandal.
a resident of College Terrace
on Apr 27, 2007 at 10:41 am
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Anyone put in a position to have to be near-slandered every Monday for _months_ might develop an issue or two that carries over into the workplace, wouldn't you think?
Again, the behavior was not excusible, but the bahvior was _punished_. What we need is a new kind of newspaper, one that begins to publish the raw and sordid details of those who freely expose the populace to the raw and sordid details of the lives of oothers, and cause needless hurt. Where isi the judgment in all this, except for the judgment toward more profit accruing from statistics that show increased hits to a web page when trash like this iis published?
The public revelation of these documents is a mistake, and it's a mistake that will HELP our city increase its chances of being litigated against. This little nugget was deleted from my last post, when I included the Weekly's publisher's name - why? Someone made a decision to publish these details? Who was it? How about an internal investigation? How would that feel? Frankly, I'm tired of the "free press" that uses freedom in this way, in a way that causes hurt instead of healing.
No one can suggest muzzling the press, bec ause it's foundational to a free democracy, but thata doesn't mean that the choices and motivations for publishing certain kinds of material shouldn't be call out, and challenged. How is the press held accountable?
These public document revelations, beyond what any individual can find out by trekking down to city hall (to satisfy prurient interest in matters like this), are irresponsible - personally, and professionally. This action will NOT help our city run bettter.
The action that our city manager took was intended to correct the situation - a public suspension was imposed, with all the shame, embarrassment, and repudiation that an action like that implies. That should have been enough, but I guess the "delivering eyeballs to advertisers" tendency toward revenue accretion got the best of those who let these documents go public.
Given the amount of vitriol that senior public employees have to endure at City Council meetings, and given the witch hunting in the press that seeks after transgression, in detail, even _after_ the latter has been punished, it's a wonder that _any_ competent senior employee would want to work here.
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This is part of what goes to the heart of the frustration of being a city employee in this city. I, for one, am sick and tired of the press being an enabler for those who _persistently_ want to destroy people.
a resident of another community
on Apr 27, 2007 at 10:56 am
Mike, the core issue here is that the newest form of bigotry in our society assumes it to be ok to be disrespectful of a person's religion, gender, and political beliefs if they are not PC. Put plainly, this form of bigotry in a PC town like Palo Alto tolerates mocking a devout Christian conservative male. By way of contrast, intolerance toward other faiths or lack of any religious faith, liberal political views, and PC gender or sexual orientation would never be acceptable. This is a good "teaching moment" about the meaning and value of tolerance, surely a core American value, in a contemporary PC town. Palo Alto civic leaders ought to affirm the civic virtue of tolerance for all (or no) religious and political creed(s), gender, etc. and not just the politically correct ones.
a resident of Professorville
on Apr 27, 2007 at 11:04 am
Mike, you got the wrong guy. I never attended any of those meetings, and I have never spoken on the issue (until now). In fact I have only attended about 5-6 council meetings in over 20 years.
If the comments were as vitriolic as you suggest, then you have a point. However, if the discussion was about possible conflicts of interest, then they had a point.
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a resident of College Terrace
on Apr 27, 2007 at 11:16 am
Alexander, We're in agreement that disrepectful action in the workplace, no matter their content, are not acceptable. That said, I fear that you are globalizing this issue to one where you assume that the offenses committed are a part of City Hall's culture. Let's get htis clear; they're not. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]
That the behavior you castigate is generally embedded within city hall culture, or even Palo Alto culture, is CLEARLY not so. For the most part, the person who is subject of this post has done a great job; this city runs very well, given the constraints. More thought shuold have been given prior to publication of the seedy details. This is a failing of the Weekly, who are pandering to base instincts, and giving voice to some of the more hateful elements in our city. Where is journalistic judgment in all of this? The latter isn't a science, but it's easy enough to call this pig, in this case, by a name - that name is "poor journalism".
Punishment - PUBLIC punishment - was dolled out. Shouldn't that be enough? I am bitterly disappointed in Diana Diamond and the Weekly's publisher for letting these documents go public. Doing so will NOT help our City. Doing so ONLY helps the Weekly, as - in this case - it serves the never-ending public thirst for cheap gossip and dirty details.
Judgment and character should ALSO be assumed as a prerequisite to publish a newspaper. In this case, if remedial action was possible, those responsible for doing further, unnecessary damage to city process (not to mention the additional harm caused to another human being, one who has already suffered ppunichment and pubic humiliation).
a resident of College Terrace
on Apr 27, 2007 at 11:28 am
Dan, it appears that you would like to see our city sued into oblivion. It also appears that you want to draw out an issue that was dealt with by a PUBLIC and HUMILIATING suspension. Shouldn't that be enough? HRC? You have to be kidding. More public rancor over something that has _already been handled_?
The pile on people and attack dogs who thirst for city staff blood in this town are FAR more harmful to our civic health than anything contained in this issue. Why the Weekly continues to want to provide fuel for those who want our city to be in perpetual crisis is beyond me - or, on second thought, maybe I should accept what the cynical side of me is saying and conjecture that it's all about web page hits and profit. Is that what's driving this public revelation, and the harm mthat it has already caused - both to a reputation that was already wounded, and to a city that can hardly afford more public comtroversy that a certain nfew will delight in feedeing on?
It's a funny thing; we pride ourselves for being so "intelligent", but we fail to find coherent ways to adapt in Palo Alto. Perhaps we need to think more about what SUSTAINS civic coherence. One thing I know for sure, in my gut, is that this sort of public revelation doesn't even come close to meeting that standard.
a resident of another community
on Apr 27, 2007 at 11:31 am
Sure, "we're all biased to some degree" as part of the human condition. A core American value since our founding, however, is tolerance. Our nation's progress toward living out this value in everyday life has been uneven throughout our history for sure, yet we have expanded our understanding and practice of tolerance over the years too. The sad state of civic affairs in PC American towns, however, reverses this trend toward tolerance and makes it more or less ok for a senior civic offical to be openly intolerant of an "unPC" religious faith, an "UnPC" political perspective, and an "UnPC" gender. This is plain wrong and needs to be condemned - and certainly in no way rationalized by reference to how effective or even how brow-beaten the offending public servant.
a resident of Professorville
on Apr 27, 2007 at 11:45 am
Mike, I actually agree with a basic point you have made, that public officials are under the spotlight and overcriticized. In this particular case, however, the boil should have been lanced years ago. If Harrison is left in office, Palo Alto's reputation will be harmed much more than it already is.
a resident of College Terrace
on Apr 27, 2007 at 11:51 am
Why should that be the case? Cannot an organization grow and heal from an experience like this? The subject of this post is not universally reviled within her work environment; I know that to be a fact. She has done a fine job otherwise. There is healing to do. The offender has been put on notice. That should be the final word, unless further violations are committed. That's where something liek this should stop, instead of teasing them out and creating more dysfunction and community tension. Will the Weekly apologize for the harm that publishing these documents cause. Probably not. So, where's the press' responsibility in all this. Where's its accountability? Why is it that the only "corrections" we see are in a little box on page 7, instead of a name attached to an action that was committted as a misjudgment. That, I guess, is the advantage of being a memeber of the press, with the ability to "out" anyone one wished, without concern for the black swans that appear on the horizon as a direct result of one's misjudged actions through publication.
a resident of another community
on Apr 27, 2007 at 12:01 pm
"Doing a fine job otherwise" does not and surely cannot excuse in any way the years of bigoted, abusive, retaliatory, and disrespectful actions documnented in Mr. Benest's disciplinary letter to Ms. Harrison. In the private sector it would not take ten years to fire someone who conducted him or herself that way, regardless of how fine a job he or she did "therwise". More like 10 minutes.
a resident of Professorville
on Apr 27, 2007 at 12:13 pm
Mike, you must not have read some of the stories in print about this case. Maybe you are too mad about the fact that it IS in print to be rational at this moment.
Harrison had several chances to clean up her act, yet she did not. Her bigoted remarks are over the line, period.
Life is full of black swans, but this is not one of them. It is fully predictable that if Harrison is left on the job, the reputation of Palo Alto will sink.
a resident of College Terrace
on Apr 27, 2007 at 12:27 pm
[Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.] Have you any idea how many 100's of thousands of interactions that an asistant city manager must have in 20 years of service? Are you aware of the FACT that the documents posted only present ONE side of the story?
Again, this doesn't excuse occasoinal bad, or abusive, behavior, which WAS punished with the suspension.
Dan, I almost have to laugh when you speak of the reputation of Palo Alto sinking. I get around, and can tell you that hiring senior executives for city jobs is going to be FAR more difficult than it was before this happened. Politics and city management problems are present in all cities, but Palo Alto is a special case.
It's said that people get the government they deserve. Maybe - based on the cheap shot tactics used by a few here, and their emboldening by the press - that just might be true.
a resident of Professorville
on Apr 27, 2007 at 12:55 pm
Mike, I can't figure why you are off on this tangent. You are attacking the press, attacking those who attack bigoted remarks by city officials, attacking others, while still doing an Alamo defense of the perp. Is she your sister?
Don't worry about Palo Alto hiring a new administrator, they will stand in line to get here. It's only sad that we put up with this one for so long.
a resident of another community
on Apr 27, 2007 at 1:28 pm
The documents pertaining to the Harrison case posted on Palo Alto Online show a sad, ugly, long-standing pattern of abuse and bigotry. The letter of apology from Ms. Harrison to Mr. Benest suggests that the evidence presented in this scandal is compelling. What's needed is a full, frank statement by civic decison-makers that presumed effectiveness, "making the train run on time", does not confer on one a license to engage in bigoted, abusive conduct toward subordinates or anyone else. Dismissing Ms. Harrison would be an effective way send such a message.
a resident of College Terrace
on Apr 27, 2007 at 2:06 pm
Dan, Alexander, the "perpetrator" has already been punished. That punishment shuold have been enough; in fact, it's the most severe punishment short of outright dismissal. It appears that both of you want to accelerate the process.
Hopefully, our City Council will take the City Manager's word that his action was sufficient, and let our city run fromo there.
I have at no time defended the actions of the person who is the subject of this thread's discussions - in fact, just the opposite.
What IS apparent, is that some here delight in details that will HURT city government.
From here, I will let policy take its course, and stand firm with my disappointment in the Weekly's choice, as well as an assuredness of the wrong-headed nature of your positions.
What YOU'RE defending is a furthering of inefficiency in our city, and putting the city at further financial risk. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]
a resident of College Terrace
on Apr 27, 2007 at 2:37 pm
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I have in past times defended Ms. Diamonds right to express herself, but her recent work has been nothing but hurtful to the ultimate health of our city. That the Weekly is complicit in this, in a transparent design to sell eyeballs to advertisers, reflects badly on any editor that has willfully permitted the placement of Ms. Diamond's recent positions in a place where they can impact community. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.] I hold out hope that Ms. Diamond, and the Weekly's publisher will get religion on journalistic responsibility; if not, they will end up losing respect, but, who knows, maybe selling a few more online ads and newspapers. if that's what it's all about, maybe we need another press competitor in this city - one with a more balanced approach to the whole.
This will post to the Daily News, so, edit away.
a resident of Professorville
on Apr 27, 2007 at 2:41 pm
Mike, it is hard for either of us to truly express our views, because important elements keep getting deleted.
Let me give it a try this way: There is a big elephant in the room, and it keeps getting danced around. Somebody or some interest group has protected Harrison for too long. It was inevitalbe that it would come to this. If Frank Benest had done this stuff, he would have been gone a long time ago.
a resident of College Terrace
on Apr 27, 2007 at 3:13 pm
Dan, A look at the documentation shows a number of incidents, over a long period of time, from _one_ perspective. How do we know that the persons claiming abuse did not invite abuse, or commit actions or speech that inciited retaliation? That said, it's still no excuse for the behavior that was punished, but there is, as far as I know, no general sense that the person who is subject of these pathetically irresponsile revelations by the Weekly is _generally_ toxic to the workings of city government.
I have worked with both subordinates and superiors who were hard to get along with, in general. I have also worked with those who were persistently toxic to the work environment, who consistently demanded performance that was impossible to deliver, who _every day_ -berated fellow employees. THIS case is not the latter, not even close.
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a resident of College Terrace
on Apr 27, 2007 at 3:24 pm
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What's further galling, is ithat nowo that this crisis has occurred, is that we will probably see some measured editorial in next Wednesday's Weekly, calling for "healing", or some such, with no claim or apology made by the Weekly for it complicity in the problem.
The subject of this thread has her punishment. Now, I'm waiting to hear an apology from those at the Weekly, and in other corners ofo our community - most calling themselves nurtering liberals - for unneccessarily extending the shame, humilation and punishment that has come out of this situation. I'm betting that that's an apology we'll never see.
a resident of Professorville
on Apr 27, 2007 at 3:44 pm
Mike, I can agree with some of what you just said. For isntance, I agree that there is rarely balance presented in a public report about a public official and a subordinate. America loves the underdog, so that it that. I hate a lot of newspaper hypocritcal and self-serving reporting, too, but it will continue to happen - the price to be paid for the First Amendment.
Mike, the thing I simply cannot understand is why you are sticking with Harrison. She is poison. If Frank Benest had even come close to saying what Harrison said, he would have been gone, period. I will probably be tossed for suggesting the following, but here goes: If Benest had called one of his subordinates an "ignorant, dem, atheist" he would be long gone. If I was allowed to choose among other possible quotes I would have, but then I would have been tossed. Maybe I still will....
With respect to your complaints about the Weekly, this is pretty dicey stuff, here. The First Amendment seems to follow the Golden Rule: Them with the gold rule. Bill Johnson has the gold, so.... Just get used to it, Mike, and quit complaining. This ain't the Soviet Union, not even close. Johnson will continue to run his paper as he sees fit, including the molding of messages on his blog. He owns it, and he controls it...and I agree with that principle.
a resident of another community
on Apr 27, 2007 at 3:48 pm
Blaming the victim(s) just won't wash. The issue is the nature and persistence of bigotry, disrespect, and retaliatory conduct toward others in the workplace by Ms. Harrison as detailed in Mr. Benest's letter of discipline and at least partially confirmed in Ms. Harrison's own letter of apology to Mr. Benest. These documents are posted on Palo Alto Online. If the bigotry and abuse were directed at politically correct targets - PC religious faiths or lack of religious faith, PC political views, and/or PC gender or sexual orientation, in Palo Alto do you really think that the person responsible would still have a job?
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Do current products enhance athletes' health and performance?
David Senchina
Herbal supplement sales, the number of available herbs and the number of preparation types have all grown in recent years, and many of these are popular among American athletes (see Figure 2). Despite this burgeoning industry, research on supplements' effects on human biology remains inconclusive overall, and athletes are often left to trust manufacturers' claims or teammates' advice when it comes to making choices about what supplements to take and whether to take them.
Early studies of any herbal supplement are almost exclusively of the clinical variety. They strive to address questions of efficacy by testing supplements available for over-the-counter purchase. Studies often include detailed information on subjects' characteristics, dosing regimens, methods for assessing efficacy and, in athletic studies, aerobic endurance exercise or anaerobic strength training regimens. But such studies frequently lack information about the chemical contents, botanical origin or agricultural provenance of the supplements. In addition, medical pilot studies are often characterized by small sample sizes, and a paltry number of studies typically exist for a given herb. This complex interplay of factors makes results hard to replicate or interpret and makes it difficult to identify confounding variables among studies.
Even when every study for an herb is stalwartly reviewed, one is typically forced to conclude that the data are equivocal—for every study that supports efficacy, another refutes it, even after controlling for demographics, dosing and so forth. The predictable outcome is confusion and miscommunication within the sports science community.
Dovetailing botany, chemistry and medical disciplines from cell biology to physiology is absolutely critical to the advancement of research on herbal supplements in athletic contexts. In addition to many others' work on this subject, collaborators from Drake and Iowa State Universities Nisarg Shah, Danielle Doty, Cole Sanderson, Justus Hallam and I have developed novel experimental data on previously neglected preclinical factors. The species of plant chosen, the location from which the plant was gathered, the specific organ extracted or the extraction method may in large part explain the heterogeneous clinical outcomes.
One of the biggest challenges such a multidisciplinary approach presents is conceptualizing the myriad preclinical and clinical factors that can potentially influence a trial. In a 2009 article in Exercise Immunology Review, we proposed a conceptual model for this multidisciplinary approach. We originally categorized factors in our model by botanical, chemical and clinical disciplines. Our revised seed-to-stomach model incorporates these as well as commercial factors to better reflect the societal context of herbal supplement research (see Figure 3). The model discourages the mistaken conclusion that equivocal is synonymous with ineffectual, moving the field from simplistic questions of "Does a given supplement 'work'?" to "Under what conditions does a given supplement produce a given outcome?"
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Environmental problems, such as nonpoint source pollution, often cut across media and political jurisdictions. Consequently, environmental mitigation and protection require a comprehensive and collaborative approach that works with a multitude of programs and agencies. The watershed approach provides a framework for coordinating and integrating the myriad programs and resources. This approach directs the focus on water quality in a geographic area delineated by a watershed. A watershed is an area of land that drains to a particular waterway, such as a stream, lake, river, or wetland. By examining water quality issues on a watershed basis, problems can be observed in relationship to their sources so that the causes can be addressed in the most effective manner.
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[quote user="Bleu"]Ok so how long before we get to watch our "America's Game" special. I'm sitting here watching the Colts from last year on NFLN and I want ours NOW! I'm getting chills just thinking about it![/quote]

hehe I'm watching it too! Vanderjack is such a jack...

I'm recording the game on Weds so I can have it in High Def!
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Me too! NFL Replay is the best as well. I wonder what their rings will say. On the Colts rings theirs say "Faith".
They should have say like: Resilency, Redemption, Revenge or something to show the struggle and triumph of this 2007 team.


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Pulaski Tech's 5th annual Health Fair is taking place 10 a.m.-6 p.m. today and from 8:30 a.m.-3 p.m. Wednesday on the Main Campus. More than two dozen vendors are in the Campus Center foyer and Grand Hall, offering information about health related services.
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During the health fair, the college will be collecting nonperishable goods for a new campus food pantry, and used eyeglasses are being collected for the Lion's Club Recycled Eyewear Project.
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Really Beautiful and a very nice job on the tutu- great pics and directions. I will be doing this quilt. Love your black and white one too. thanks for sharing it with us. I did pin it on my pinterest board linking it to your tutu thanks !!!
You did a great job of describing the process and the photos were crisp and clear. Thanks so much for posting the tut.
A fabric stash is always missing that one fabric needed to finish the quilt on which you're working.
Like everybody, I love, love, love this quilt and you're a doll for writing a tute for us. It's much appreciated. I've bookmarked it and will definitely give it a go sometime soon, I hope. Tks again.
Wow! that is awesome. Thanks for sharing.
What a wonderful and I do mean wonderful tutorial! I'm such a visual learner and you've inspired me to make this stunning quilt. You indeed are a GREAT teacher.
Thank-you so much for sharing your time and talents with this wonderful tutorial.
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This is a great tut and gorgeous quilt. Thanks for taking the time to do this.
She who dies with the most fabric, didn't sew fast enough!
You are so generous to take the time and effort (and great photos) for this excellent tutorial.
Wonderfully written and beautifully picturized (is this right LOL) I love your tute and your quilts are just gorgeous. Thanks for sharing.


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Overpowering vanilla
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Overpowering vanilla
The added vanilla flavour is a bit overpowering, and I think that gives this particular stevia bitter undertones. I prefer to use unflavoured stevia and add a few drops of vanilla extract when I want that flavour. On the other hand it was on sale, so it was a good bargain! Click on my username for more reviews. If you thought that this review was helpful please feel free to press the 'yes' button.
good enough
Posted by Reviewer1621299 on Jun 16, 2010 | Verified Purchase
I've tried a few of the Vanilla flavored stevia to do a "study". This one came out on top, but not by much. It's in a glycerin base instead of alcohol (the vanilla part), so it was the least bitter tasting. The glycerin, however, makes it "syrupy" and sticky. Not good for purses! Always washing off the bottle. Also, the "french vanilla" flavor tastes like coconut. Which is ok w/me, but maybe not fr someone else.
Overpowering vanilla
Posted by TrueReviews on Feb 06, 2014 | Verified Purchase
The added vanilla flavour is a bit overpowering, and I think that gives this particular stevia bitter undertones. I prefer to use unflavoured stevia and add a few drops of vanilla extract when I want that flavour. On the other hand it was on sale, so it was a good bargain! Click on my username for more reviews. If you thought that this review was helpful please feel free to press the 'yes' button.
Love this product.
Posted by Reviewer1853286 on Dec 06, 2010 | Verified Purchase
I have tried many different brands of this product. And, Now is by far the best. And, iherb makes it so easy to get. I had gone to stores and half the time the are out of this flavor in this brand since, it is their best selling flavor. I started ordering from iherb months and months ago. And, after my first order, I said forget to the stores and iherb is the only place I purchase it from. They are speedy on getting it out and have never been dissatisfied.
Posted by cristal on May 07, 2010 | Verified Purchase
This is SO yummy! We are picky about our stevia, and this passes our test. We love it.
Great tasting stevia!
Posted by Reviewer1473473 on Feb 16, 2010 | Verified Purchase
I love the French vanilla flavor, and there's no bitter aftertaste.
Posted by Reviewer2109323 on Nov 20, 2010 | Verified Purchase
I was weary of switching from the french vanilla packets, but the liquid is as least as good and a lot easier to use!!
OK, but not stellar
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The flavor is decent but not great; I thought it would be good in homemade yogurt or coffee, but I don't think it's nearly as good as regular stevia extract plus vanilla extract. I'll probably use it in baking but not to flavor foods where I really want a pronounced vanilla flavor.
Now Foods Stevia
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Disappointed in this product,dislike smell,taste & consistancy. Next time will purchase Sweetleaf Stevia instead.
Tastes more like coconut than french vanilla
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I bought this product to use I my morning coffee. My favorite liquid stevia sweetener is SweetDrops Vanilla Crème, and you can buy that product from iherb.com. It costs about twice as much as this Now product, but it's worth it. This "Now Better Stevia" product has a coconut extract flavor to it - that just ruins my coffee (I love coconut, just not in my coffee - so if you like this flavor in your coffee or other beverages, you will be fine with this product. I did think the product was pretty concentrated and is definitely a good value for the money. I'm just spoiled with my SweetDrops. This being said... I have not tried this product in a smoothie - and I think it could be extremely good for that purpose. In fact, I may try that this afternoon as that would be a good use of the coconut flavor... Best wishes!
Love the flavored stevias
Posted by Reviewer2143246 on Oct 06, 2010 | Verified Purchase
I use the flavored stevia in a lot of thing I make. I drink mineral water with the stevia and it is a great substitute for a soda, so much more healthy. I use the flavored stevia in my smoothies and the green smoothies to sweeten these healthy drinks.


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The Road Less Traveled
Wonderous Wedding Locations Off the Beaten Path (but well worth the drive!) in Northern and Southern California.
by Jolene Rae Harrington, Director of Creative Content
Sometimes you have to make a little extra effort to get something you really want. Nothing Herculean, mind you. Not even as strenuous as your after-work spinning class. But to secure that magical location, the one the Wedding Fairies have sprinkled with pixie dust just for you? Now that may require thinking outside the box and venturing a bit beyond your usual stomping grounds. Where wedding venues are concerned, going the extra mile can lead to spectacular sites overlooked by less imaginative souls.
But you, oh Savvy Sojourner, know that the journey itself is part of the reward. Whether traversing unspoiled country roads or a traffic-free stretch of the Pacific coast on the way to your off-the-beaten-path wedding destination, you're the one slowing down to take in a field of wildflowers, or opening the window to catch the scent of fresh-mown hay on the breeze So give yourself a mental pat on the back for choosing the road less traveled—it will take you to a celebratory setting that's just right for you.
Come with us while we explore a dozen out-of-the way gems.
Edgewood Tahoe
Stateline, Nevada on the south shore of Lake Tahoe
Roughly a four-hour drive from the Bay Area or a short flight from L.A. puts you in the lap of Lake Tahoe's scenic luxury. To make the most of this truly breathtaking landscape, celebrate at the Edgewood Tahoe Golf Course. Reminiscent of a grand alpine ski lodge, Edgewood's timber-and-glass clubhouse rises from a small hill, while the sparkling blue water of the nation's deepest alpine lake and the soaring peaks of the Sierra Nevadas frame the building like a living photograph. Inside, steeply vaulted wood-beamed ceilings, rock pillars draped with ferns and soaring windows embracing the fantastic views make Edgewood seem like a veritable mountain cathedral. In summer, have your ceremony on the lakeside patio; in winter, marry in front of the lofty windows of a banquet room, with the backdrop of the lake and snow-topped mountains completing the picture-perfect tableau.
Bear Flag Farm
Winters, 20 minutes outside of Sacramento
The Bear Flag winery and organic farm could pass for a tiny village in the European countryside. Flourishing orchards, grapes ripening on the vines, and an abundance of flowers in bloom all contribute to a joyous, pastoral ambiance. The pale stucco walls of the main house, cottage and barn give off a rosy glow in the sunlight, and the luxuriant grounds offer a cornucopia of sites for each phase of your wedding: a grassy amphitheatre; a spacious terrace shaded by sycamore trees; or one of the many groves that perfume the air with their fruity sweetness. Or set up a tent in front of the winery for shelter from the elements. At night, the terrace is lit with paper lanterns, enhancing the romantic mood for that special "first dance."
Shambhala Ranch
Midway between Ukiah and the coastal town of Mendocino
The road to Shambhala winds through cool, shady forests and over rocky hills, covered with fields of dry grass that glow in the sun like parched honey. Hidden away in this idyllic countryside is a 140-acre sanctuary, aptly named for an ancient mystical civilization thought to inspire Nirvana. This green wedding location includes a solar-powered main lodge, crafted from redwood timbers, that speaks of both untouched wilderness and sublime refinement in the same breath. The interior seduces with a gorgeous juxtaposition of handcrafted woodwork, plush furnishings, and eclectic decor. Windows are everywhere, bathing guests in sunlight and scenic panoramas. The sprawling grounds, filled with oak trees, orchards and creek-fed waterfalls, entice most couples to stage their event outdoors. Choices include the Ritual Meadow, view-filled wooden decks, or the intimate herb garden; later, husband and wife can privately toast their newly wedded bliss in a pond-side hot tub.
Highlands House and Park
Ben Lomond, in the hills northwest of Santa Cruz
Built in the '30s, Highlands House reigns over 43 acres of verdant county parkland. In front of the mansion, a vast lawn is ringed by towering oaks and redwoods. Say your vows in the gazebo at one end, and have an al fresco reception at the other. Or fête your guests inside the house, where multipaned windows look onto the garden, abloom in spring with whisper-pink camellias and magnolia trees. A selection of pleasant salons lets your gathering really spread out—gifts, buffet, cake and dancing each have their own attractive space. You'll also appreciate the sizable changing room upstairs—you can even toss your bouquet from the balcony! Highlands House has a laid-back environment—and a low rental cost—sure to soothe wedding jitters.
Cambria Pines Lodge
Cambria, on the Central Coast halfway between Los Angeles and San Francisco
One of the highlights of Highway One's famously scenic drive is Cambria, an artist colony known for its pristine beaches, hiking trails and small-town friendliness. On a tranquil, woodsy hilltop overlooking town is Cambria Pines Lodge, a Central Coast wedding favorite. Built in the '20s as the rustic retreat of a European baroness, the pine-log lodge is beautifully landscaped, with grassy paths meandering through world-class gardens. Both ceremony and reception can be held on a pretty expanse of lawn ringed with flowers and Monterey pines, and elegantly dressed for the occasion. Fireplace suites, an organic kitchen, and an on-site spa will keep you pampered and relaxed.
The Casino Ballroom
Catalina Island, off the coast of Orange County
Why not splurge and ferry your wedding guests "26 miles across the sea" to glorious Catalina Island, where cars are verboten and spectacular ocean views are impossible to miss? Back In 1929, when this island paradise was the exclusive playground for society's elite, the main draw was an enormous jazz-era dance hall called the Casino Ballroom. Today the Art Deco landmark is still one of Southern California's most glamorous reception venues—its vaulting, 50-foot ceiling boasts five Tiffany chandeliers! An elevated stage, raised seating areas around the dance floor, and a vintage full-service bar are very event-friendly. There's even an outdoor balcony overlooking the coves, and at night an endless starscape sparkles across the water. If it's "memorable" you want, surely the Casino Ballroom delivers magnificently.
Mammoth Mountain Resort
Mammoth Mountain isn't just for skiers anymore. In fact, leisure-seekers come here year-round for golf, fishing, hiking—or to just kick back in the serene alpine environment. Still others, enticed by the drama of the terrain and the deluxe amenities of the newly expanded Mammoth Mountain Resort & Village, come here to wed. A wide assortment of venues lets couples customize their Mammoth experience to suit their personal style. Want traditional? The Mountainside Conference Center in the historic Main Lodge provides a wide-angle view of the ski slopes. Want modern sophistication? Then consider the state-of-the-art Grand Sierra Lodge at the heart of the new Village. If you prefer rustic charm, then tie the knot on the shores of Twin Lakes at the intimate Forest Chapel. Adventurous couples can transport their guests via gondola to Parallax, a fine-dining restaurant at mid-mountain—or even marry on an 11,000-foot summit!
Rancho Camulos
Piru, between the Santa Clarita Valley and Ventura County
Rancho Camulos' landscaped grounds and quaint adobes are part historical postcard and part rural paradise. A lovingly preserved National Landmark, this tranquil oasis is a testament to Early California's rich heritage—and it's also a beguiling (and very affordable!) event location. Stage your wedding on the Rancho's sprawling meadows, cradled by orange groves and sagebrush-cloaked hills, and make a spectacular entrance beneath a white arbor swathed in grapevines before passing an aviary alive with birdsong. Then, while your photographer captures romantic photos of you in a flowering herb garden, your guests enjoy the cocktail hour alongside a fishpond with a miniature waterfall. As a glorious sunset gives way to a starry evening sky, Rancho Camulos weaves a tapestry of rustic charm over your entire celebration.
Point Reyes Seashore Lodge
Olema, northwest Marin County near Pt. Reyes National Seashore
Tucked along one of the loveliest sections of the Northern California coast, Point Reyes Seashore Lodge is flanked by giant redwoods and Point Reyes National Seashore Park. The environs are truly magnificent, and if you reserve the Lodge for your exclusive destination weekend, you'll have the leisure to explore, relax and celebrate. Guestrooms are cozy and plush, with many featuring fireplaces, featherbeds and pastoral views. Outdoor weddings here are a special treat, overlooking a sweeping lawns and a blooming English garden. Intimate gatherings can reserve the Casa Olema Retreat, which includes a formal herb and flower garden, fruit trees, a lawn and a private cottage. An on-site historic restaurant is a charming (and convenient) creekside setting for your rehearsal dinner, while the Retreat's 8-person outdoor hot tub is ready-made for a bachelorette party.
Figueroa Mountain Farmhouse
Los Olivos, in the hills east of Santa Barbara
A picturesque drive along a forested mountain road leads you into the wilds of Santa Barbara Wine Country. Cresting the final ridge, you're rewarded with a stunning panorama of mountains, golden fields and the oh-so-charming Figueroa Mountain Farmhouse. Sequestered from all signs of civilization, this historic Appalachian-style home speaks of a simpler, gentler time. From Great Room to Loft, the immaculate interior is lavished with authentic 18th-century details, antiques and cleverly hidden modern luxuries. Broad wooden decks overlook the vast meadow where ceremonies and receptions are held into the wee, starlit hours. A dozen or so lucky guests can stay for the weekend and explore the grounds, while the newlyweds find romance in a pretty cottage nearby.
Le Chene
Agua Dulce in Santa Clarita's Sleepy Valley
A tranquil enclave of chaparral-covered hills, big sky and sage-scented air holds a special attraction: Le Chene, a fine French restaurant that's been piquing the palates of locals and out-of-town visitors for decades. Housed in a historic building, the restaurant conveys an invitingly rustic elegance. Picture windows in the private A-framed banquet room take in a view of the rear garden, a favored spot for ceremonies and outdoor receptions. Here, Le Chene's wooden deck, accented with ivy-covered trellises, overlooks a contoured lawn canopied by a grove of centennial oak trees. Paths wind among seasonal blooms and greenery, while the trickling of a brook that spills from an old wooden water wheel plays a soothing refrain. In addition to its acclaimed cuisine, Le Chene is also known for its award-winning wine list. Four underground cellars showcase over 1000 vintages, including selections from chef and owner Juan Alonso's family vineyard. With its pastoral surroundings and high culinary standards, Le Chene is sure to satisfy epicureans as well as romantics.
Empire Polo Club
Indio, in the Coachella Valley
At the edge of Greater Palm Springs is the region's Equestrian District, the home of the wonderful Empire Polo Club. This desert oasis offers couples a trio of breathtaking locations. The Rose Garden and Pavilion are set amidst a three landscaped acres, abloom with thousands of sweet-scented rose bushes. Then there's the Hacienda del Toro, a secluded party haven imbued with the spirit of Old California. An enclosed waterfall and aviary make a delightful spot for a ceremony, while a huge covered stage can be decked out for a Western-style reception. On another part of the grounds lies Medjool Lake, an exotic paradise replete with quaint footbridges and whimsical statuary peeking out from ferns and willow branches. Couples can even arrive by gondola! After the "I dos," it's just a short stroll to the dinner banquet, arrayed beneath a series of spectacular Olympic tents that adjoin the polo greens.


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Apr 6, 2013 at 9:04 pm #1301389
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I admit I've never actually treated water. I have been in the Alps a lot and have been taught early on that water can be used untreated there (not really sure if that's true, but I've also never been sick). If I haven't been in the Alps I could always just leave the "wilderness" and walk the one kilometre to the next house.
I figured it would be a good idea to use some form of treatment for Corsica and the Pyrenees this summer. Now I'm a bit overwhelmed with the available options though. Inline filters seem a bit unwieldy, chemicals taste (or smell) bad, a SteriPen needs this strange batteries that are mostly unavailable and pumps are heavy and seem a bit awkward in general.
I did read the articles here on BPL and I'm currently leaning towards just using Aquamira if I think the source is wonky. I would still love to hear some experiences or preferences of others especially because I have none.Apr 6, 2013 at 9:20 pm #1973572
IanBPL Member
I use the Steripen Adventurer and haven't had any problems with it but you depend on batteries and the hope the unit will not break. I like that i have purified water in 90 seconds.
I carry chlorine dioxide tablets as a back-up but they take up to four hours for (some people don't wait that long) and IMO leave more of a chlorine taste than other options.Apr 6, 2013 at 10:44 pm #1973585
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@theronrLocale: Los Angeles, California
I agree there is no perfect answer.
I started out mostly not treating water and carrying chlorine dioxide tablets for when I thought it was a good idea. That's a light, low cost way to cover a one time trip where you are unsure of the need to treat the water. However the downside is the wait time before you can drink the water. This means you can't just drink when you come to a stream. Instead you will have to carry a lot of water while you wait for it to be treated. Also drinking chemically tasting water when you're in the pristine outdoors does seem kind of wrong.
Now I use the sawyer filter that comes inside of a bottle. So far I really like this solution. It is like I am not treating the water at all. I just fill up the bottle and drink the water through the straw which sucks it through the filter as I drink. No effort or wait at all. Of course this only works for one person drinking cold water. It cannot provide water for others or for mixing with drink powder for example. If this is acceptable to you then I can highly recommend it.Apr 6, 2013 at 10:51 pm #1973588
did you read the comments at the end of those articles?
I prefer the Sawyer Squeeze because of it's simplicity, but it bugs me that they don't know how it is effected by freezing so they just say to avoid this, but where I go it frequently freezes – uh oh – flogging dead horse againApr 7, 2013 at 10:27 am #1973680
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Sawer squeeze is my voteApr 7, 2013 at 10:48 am #1973685
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"Inline filters seem a bit unwieldy"
Unweldy in what way. I started using a inline filter last year and haven't had any issues with it. Simply remove the bladder cap (which has the hose and filter), fill bladder, reattach cap, and put back in the pack. The only down side I see is that the filter does not remove viruses. To kill viruses I add chlorine dioxide to the water in the bladder. That kills the viruses in 15 minutes while the filter takes care of the rest
"but it bugs me that they don't know how it is effected by freezing"
All water filters are effected by freezing. When water freezes it expands, and that can cause cracks, punctures, or other forms of failure. The simple solution to this problem is to disconnect the filter from the bladder and then suck out the water that remains inside. Or you can simply put the filter inside you warm sleeping bag.
All water treatment methods have down sides. Filters don't work on viruses, chemicals can take a long time to work, UV pens can fail and need batteries… Simply choose the method that you think will work best for you. If it doesn't work out switch to another method.
"I have been in the Alps a lot and have been taught early on that water can be used untreated"
My dad was also told the same thing about water in the Washington Cascade mountains. We didn't treat water for years, and only later learned that what he was told was not true. While we didn't get sick we did have friends that did get sick. Truth is that any water source that is visited by animals (including fish) or people should be treated. It only takes one infected person or animal to contaminate an entire watershed. A water source that is clean one year can be contaminated the next.Apr 7, 2013 at 11:34 am #1973700
"All water filters are effected by freezing. When water freezes it expands, and that can cause cracks, punctures, or other forms of failure. The simple solution to this problem is to disconnect the filter from the bladder and then suck out the water that remains inside. Or you can simply put the filter inside you warm sleeping bag."
Water expands when it freezes
If water is in an enclosed container that can't stretch enough, and the water freezes, it will expand the container which breaks it
With a hollow tube filter, if the entire filter is full of water and it freezes, the outside case will probably crack
If the hollow tubes are full of water but the rest of the filter is empty which you can do by shaking it out, and it freezes, the tubes will just stretch with no problem. When you backwash the filter, it stretches the tubes a little, including making the pores slightly bigger so any particles will be released and backflushed away.
Obviously, this logic would have to be tested.
Yeah, you can leave it in your sleeping bag or whatever, which is what I do, but over the life of the filter it would be so difficult to keep it from freezing every time. And it could have frozen once but you didn't notice.
Sawyer says that they don't know whether freezing will damage it, so just in case, if it freezes, throw it out and buy a new one. If it freezes, go ahead an use it for the rest of the trip.
All of this is very unsatisfying, especially if the Sawyer is actually freeze-proof
Here I go again, flogging another dead horseApr 7, 2013 at 11:45 am #1973706
" "Inline filters seem a bit unwieldy"
Unweldy in what way."
The hoses make it unwieldy. They weigh a little. You have to store them. One more thing to have to fiddle with. Not that big a deal though. A lot of people are happy.
Squeeze just screws onto water bag. Either gravity mode (although slow) or push on bag a little. Lighter. Simpler. Probably better for one or few people?Apr 7, 2013 at 12:09 pm #1973713
j lanMember
@justaddfuelLocale: MN
I think it is a pretty small price to pay to purchase a new filter if you suspect your filter has frozen. What would one trip to the doctor cost you?Apr 7, 2013 at 12:55 pm #1973728
"I think it is a pretty small price to pay to purchase a new filter if you suspect your filter has frozen. What would one trip to the doctor cost you?"
A lot of trips it goes below freezing so there's some chance, despite my best efforts, that the filter has frozen, so I'de be replacing the filter frequently.
In your calculation, you have to factor in the chance of the filter actually being damaged if I suspect that it's frozen, and the chance of actually getting sick and having to go to the doctor if water goes through a damaged filter.Apr 7, 2013 at 12:57 pm #1973729
Jan SMember
"did you read the comments at the end of those articles?"
Yup. But not really much about used setups or day to day experiences in them. I learned that Europeans don't treat their water. And I probably wouldn't care as much if I didn't think that a long solo trip + diabetes + stomach bug + inaccesible mountains would be a recipe for disaster.
"Unweldy in what way."
Getting bladders out of a full pack for refills, the need to gravity filter into bottles if there isn't much water on the way. All of this might not actually be true though and purely something from my imagination. As we learned from the canister failure thread that is always the trouble with just thinking it through.
"Simply choose the method that you think will work best for you. If it doesn't work out switch to another method."
Buying and testing a lot of things makes large holes in my budget. Sadly. I'm open to sponsoring though ;)
Freezing isn't usually problem here though and on the few occasion when it does freeze a little more effort is okay.
"What would one trip to the doctor cost you?"
I'm a huge fan of those working health care systems in Europe. Of course a bit socialist but well worth it ;)Apr 7, 2013 at 1:25 pm #1973735
IanBPL Member
Not necessarily the same thing but I was hospitalized in Panama with salmonella and was sick for a month from a water bug in Pakistan. Type 3 fun for sure and I would've paid anything to avoid those two events.
I've never had giardia but it sounds just as miserable. One through hiker mentioned that he needed prescription drugs to kick it and it took him off the trail for a week or two.Apr 7, 2013 at 2:24 pm #1973747
Roger CaffinModerator
@rcaffinLocale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
> I learned that Europeans don't treat their water.
That's because there are so many safe 'water points' around, so they usually don't need to worry. Yes, lots of springs of one sort or another which come from underground, and any village has safe water these days too.
CheersApr 7, 2013 at 2:45 pm #1973756
Steve DavisBPL Member
@stevendavisphotoLocale: SF Bay Area
I just started, but I got a Steri-pen and have chlorine tabs as a backup in case it breaks down or the battery jacks up or something. They're so light weight to be almost negligible for the peace of mind, but you do have to wait 4 hours.Apr 7, 2013 at 3:14 pm #1973769
DougBPL Member
"Not necessarily the same thing but I was hospitalized in Panama with salmonella and was sick for a month from a water bug in Pakistan. Type 3 fun for sure and I would've paid anything to avoid those two events."
Amebic Dysentery in Egypt from untreated water during a Bright Star exercise. Spent lots of time on a bedpan in the middle of the desert with fluids IV'd into my arm. Not fun indeed.Apr 7, 2013 at 4:01 pm #1973787
James MarcoBPL Member
@jamesdmarcoLocale: Finger Lakes
Yes, I agree. Even a single trip to the doctors office and getting a prescription can be as expensive as purchasing one of the steripen gadgets. The Steripen Adventurer and the Adventurer/Opti are the two I have been using for several years. These are light enough to worth arrying since they reduce wait time to next to nothing on the trail…well, there is less than 1 minute for each half liter bottle I carry. The steripen was very usefull during the day. This was backed up with two small bottles of AquaMira for overnight treatment so I would not waste fuel making coffe/oatmeal in the morning.
These two types of treatment have lasted me for long periods in the woods. One trip was close to two months on one set of spare batteries and one full set of mini dropper bottles.
This was far less weight, to me, than carrying the third bottle of water I would have otherwise needed to cover the wait time.Apr 7, 2013 at 4:53 pm #1973803
In landlocked Nepal, lots of trekkers are moving around on the trails, especially in the Mount Everest Region. After the Brits had been successful climbing there sixty years ago, a certain amount of money from the Hillary Trust started to flow into that region. Where did the money go? Two main projects were begun. The first was the series of Hillary Schools, because education takes a long time to show success. The second was water treatment. Up until then, villages would take in water above the village and discharge all waste below the village… into the same stream or river. Needless to say, there was a lot of disease. Once they got some basic clean water systems going, this got cleaned up a bit and the disease rate dropped.
Still, at least for one river that I know, they tell you not to touch the sacred river. If you touch it, you will have bad luck and the demons will possess you. Well, it doesn't have much to do with luck or demons, but it has everything to do with disease.
On one trek there in Nepal, I was the only person out of twelve who did _not_ get sick from the water.
–B.G.–Apr 7, 2013 at 4:56 pm #1973804
how did you avoid getting sick?Apr 7, 2013 at 6:55 pm #1973843
Eric BlumensaadtBPL Member
@danepackerLocale: Mojave Desert
The U.S EPA classifies personal water treatment into two main categories:
1. Filtration-> particles less that one micron (the usual minimum particle size for filtration) get through, including ALL viruses.
2. Purification-> ALL bacteria and viruses are either killed (chlorine dioxide tabs or drops) or rendered harmless (Steripen UV treatment) Iodine tabs do not kill all bacteria within 4 hours, especially "hard shelled" bacteria.
I use a Steripen for my bike bottle and Katadyn chlorine dioxide tablets for my water bladder. I fill the bladder at night, pop in the tabs and by morning the water is ready to drink.
BTW, chlorine dioxide tabs take 4 hours to purify water ONLY when the water is 40 F. or less. Warmer water takes less time. Read their literature.Apr 7, 2013 at 7:02 pm #1973845
"how did you avoid getting sick?"
It beats the crap out of me. Literally.
I don't know. For my first trek in Nepal, I was extremely paranoid about the water, so I hardly trusted any source of water. I was also very careful about food, since simple food washing can contaminate stuff. I carried and used my own iodine. For my second trek there, I was not so paranoid, but still vigilant. Simple hand rinsing can help. Also, if there is a Sherpa cook doing the cooking, pop into the cook tent once in a while to observe their practices.
–B.G.–Apr 7, 2013 at 7:07 pm #1973848
The third category of water treatment is boiling the water. Most nasty organisms will die by the time the water gets up to boiling temperature. The marginal exception is if you are at very high elevation (like 20,000 feet) where the boiling point of water is depressed down to about the kill temperature for Giardia.
Boiling lots of water is kind of impractical for an individual, but you can do it with the right boiler and right fuel.
–B.G.–Apr 7, 2013 at 7:26 pm #1973861
Nick GatelBPL Member
@ngatelLocale: Southern California
Yak dung?Apr 7, 2013 at 7:56 pm #1973873
Daniel PittmanSpectator
@pitsyLocale: Central Texas
Sawyer's Point ZeroTWO filters out viruses. It's a little slow as a gravity filter, but it's all you need. If you can keep your drinking water from freezing, you can keep your filter from freezing. Doesn't take any more time or effort than the other systems, and It is pretty lightweight.Apr 7, 2013 at 8:19 pm #1973883
W I S N E R !BPL Member
No filtration here. I don't want another larger item to carry or something that can break.
1. If water isn't suspect, I don't treat.
2. If water is suspect, I use AquaMira drops (or pills on shorter trips).
3. For cooking (if at a wet campsite), I only boil to treat, saving my treated water for drinking.
If out with my children, however, I carry a filter for drinking water. I've found life is easier when kids don't have to wait, thus the filter is easier than chemicals. I still only boil their cooking water though.Apr 7, 2013 at 8:26 pm #1973885
Nick GatelBPL Member
@ngatelLocale: Southern California
No filtration here. I don't want another larger item to carry or something that can break.
1. If water isn't suspect, I don't treat.
2. If water is suspect, I use AquaMira drops (or pills on shorter trips).
3. For cooking (if at a wet campsite), I only boil to treat, saving my treated water for drinking.
I never understood the need for a filter per the above. Never owned or even considered purchasing one.
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"The efficiency of our aircraft production relies on the efficiency of all – which includes the vital contribution of Airbus' supply chain," Lux added.
Airbus spotlighted a group of systems and equipment manufacturers whose performance contributes to this "puzzle," recognizing their performance at its annual supplier awards ceremony during this week's Farnborough Airshow.
Lux presented awards to a selected list of companies that have achieved outstanding customer satisfaction from the worldwide supply chain. This industrial network provides parts as small as ventilating fans to larger and more complex elements as avionics and landing gear.
"In the end, our performance not only depends on Airbus, it also is the result of a partnership in which our suppliers play a key role in delivering the right products," Lux said.
At this week's Farnborough Airshow supplier event, Gold Awards were presented to companies recognised for their sustained delivery of exceptional customer support performance, as well as being in the top 10 ranking for five or more years. These suppliers are: onboard systems manufacturer Airbus Kid Systeme/Airbus Cabin Systems; avionics/electronics suppliers Airbus Avionics, Diehl Aerospace, Rockwell Collins Avionics and Thales Avionics; along with Technofan, a manufacturer of small fans and valves.
Receiving Silver Awards for their exceptional customer support performance and being in the top 10 rankings were seat manufacturer EADS Sogerma; electrical aircraft systems supplier Hamilton Sundstrand; Nord Micro, a provider of cabin pressure/ ventilation systems and other products; and Messier-Bugatti-Dowty's landing gear and system integration division.
Aircelle, which is a supplier of engine nacelles and related components, took home the "Most Improved Supplier" status based on its upward move of 14 positions in Airbus' supplier rating, and a 4.32 point gain compared to the previous year.


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Crews are taming the Morgan Fire, which has charred an estimated 3,133 acres in and around Mount Diablo State Park since it started Sunday afternoon, Cal Fire officials said. The fire was at 90 percent containment as of this morning, Cal Fire spokesman Steve Kaufmann said.
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Century has them for under $150.00 and they have the metrics for $250.00
Where is the best(cheepist) place to buy a inch reciver?
I would like to have the handle on it, but if it doesn't that's ok too as long as it's cheep.
Century has them for under $150.00 and they have the metrics for $250.00
Buy your US made AK-47 compliance parts here.
Best price on US made AK parts! also $5 flat rate shipping .
I've heard Century's are a nightmare to build on.
...I'm not tense! Just terribly, terribly alert.
I have an inch Century that I am planning to build on. I see several problems, one is with the threads for the gas nut and the other is the additional machining to get the bolt to close all the way. One other thing is that it is designed to take metrix mags. If I want to use inch, there is some more machining.
It is nothing I can not handle but I should not have to address this on a 100% receiver
God pulls my strings!!
I have had good luck with Entreprise, have bought 5 and built on 4 of them so far.
But only they and DSA make true inch receivers(both Australian pattern). The Centurys are metric Type-3 with some inch features.
I'm trying to get one through DSA, but they have had me on the waiting list for 4 months now. Every time I call the girl that answers the phone tells me that there running production on another product right now & they will start running my receivers right after that.??? I don't know what to do now!
On another board someone posted that DSA has no immediate plans for running another batch of L1A1 receivers. They are building/selling all the metrics they have time for.
All I can say is keep calling them.
I'm having my DS Arms metric receiver converted to inch by Entreprise Arms
Entreprise can convert your metric to take the folding charging handle, tabbed topcover, and inch mag, but the outside will still be metric.
I had heard Entreprise was working on another batch of L1A1 receivers too. I have bought 5 of theirs.
Yes I'm having mine done byEntreprise. I was able to get ahold of a new DSA metric receiver. I called both Entreprise & DSA and both told me they were not ready to start building Inch receivers yet. they still had plenty of Metric orders to fill


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From HaskellWiki
1 Parallel Programming in GHC
This page contains notes and information about how to use parallelism in GHC to speed up pure functions in your program.
You may be interested in concurrency instead, which would allow you to manage simultaneous IO actions.
GHC provides multi-scale support for parallel programming, from very fine-grained, small "sparks", to coarse-grained explicit threads and locks (using concurrency), along with other models of parallel programming.
The parallel programming models in GHC can be divided into the following forms:
- Very fine grained: parallel sparks and futures, as described in the paper "Runtime Support for Multicore Haskell"
- Nested data parallelism: a parallel programming model based on bulk data parallelism, in the form of the DPH and Repa libraries for transparently parallel arrays.
- Intel Concurrent Collections for Haskell: a graph-oriented parallel programming model.
The most important (as of 2010) to get to know are implicit parallelism via sparks. If you're interested in scientific programming specifically, you may also be interested in current research on nested data parallelism in Haskell.
1.1 Starting points
- Control.Parallel. The first thing to start with parallel programming in Haskell is the use of par/pseq from the parallel library.
- Nested Data Parallelism. For an approach to exploiting the implicit parallelism in array programs for multiprocessors, see Data Parallel Haskell (work in progress).
1.2 Multicore GHC
Since 2004, GHC supports running programs in parallel on an SMP or multi-core machine. How to do it:
- Compile your program using the -threaded switch.
- Run the program with +RTS -N2 to use 2 threads, for example (RTS stands for runtime system; see the GHC users' guide). You should use a -N value equal to the number of CPU cores on your machine (not including Hyper-threading cores). As of GHC v6.12, you can leave off the number of cores and all available cores will be used (you still need to pass -N however, like so: +RTS -N).
- Concurrent threads (forkIO) will run in parallel, and you can also use the par combinator and Strategies from the Control.Parallel.Strategies module to create parallelism.
- Use +RTS -sstderr for timing stats.
- To debug parallel program performance, use ThreadScope.
1.3 Related work
- Parallel portal
- Ongoing research in Parallel Haskell
- The Sun project to improve http://ghcsparc.blogspot.com/ GHC performance on Sparc]
- A Microsoft project to improve industrial applications of GHC parallelism.


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Tennessee Governor cracking down on meth production
Even though we're seeing more arrests, police departments across Tennessee say the meth problem is on the rise and something needs to be done to stop it.
All too often, we're hearing stories about meth labs and dump sites being discovered around the Tri-Cities. "As a single parent of two little boys, that's my fear every day, that there is going to be another [lab] over here, over there. It just seems like it's rising more and more every day," says concerned parent Layla Jones.
People like Jones want something done about the problem. That's why Tennessee Governor Bill Haslam introduced a bill to cut down on meth production, which limits the amount of cold medicine a person can buy. "It's being changed to 2.4 grams maximum per month, which is a 10-day supply," adds Anderson Compounding pharmacist Mark Flanary.
We discovered it also gives pharmacist a chance to override the law and give patients another 10-day supply if they feel like the need is legitimate. If patients need more than that in a 30-day period, they'll need a prescription. "We never want to take it from people that need it legitimately, but there are so many people that are abusing it that it's caused this problem," says Carter County Sheriff Chris Mathes.
Sheriff Mathes tells us the meth crackdown will hopefully protect children. "The statistic that bothers me is that one out of every three children that are taken in the State of Tennessee that will be taking into foster care is a result of meth," he said.
Hearing statistics like that makes people like Layla Jones support the governor's bill 100 percent. "I think that it's one step closer to trying to help the problem that we've got going on," she said.
We're told the Tennessee Association of Sheriffs supports Governor Haslam's legislation and says something needs to be done to crack down on the problem.


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Representatives from the state's two-year colleges met at Pulaski Technical College July 24 to hear from experts on campus crisis preparedness.
About 75 college administrators, including representatives from most of the state's 22 two-year colleges, attended the workshop, which was co-sponsored by the Arkansas Association of Two-Year Colleges and the University of Arkansas System Criminal Justice Institute.
"The Arkansas Association of Two-Year Colleges recognizes the importance of crisis preparedness and being able to deal with crises of all types," said Dr. Ed Franklin, executive director of the AATYC. "We are fortunate in Arkansas to have the Criminal Justice Institute with expertise in dealing with all types of crisis management."
Sessions were conducted by officials from the School Violence Resource Center at the University of Arkansas System Criminal Justice Institute.
Presentations included "Designing a Campus Crisis Plan," by John Morgan, Law Enforcement Project Specialist from the Criminal Justice Institute; "Crime Prevention Through Environmental Design," by Sgt. Richard Davies of the Pine Bluff Police Department; and "Mental Health Laws and Issues," by Dr. Jennifer Lang from United Methodist Behavioral Hospital.
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