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I have not digested this, but here it is...
I have not digested this, but here it is...
For those who did not read the entire paper, I found several items of particular interest, and attention. Read the excerpts below.
Plan: Research teams that include university researchers, the Federal
Government (ARS, DoD), and private industry will use new strategies for
detecting bee gene expression and for detecting and identifying pathogens
of bees to determine the cause(s) of CCD.
The underlined part is what caught my attention.
Why is the Fed. Gov. involving the Dept. of DEFENCE???
The poss. Explanation here is that the government is going to involve USAMRIID
The Army's USAMRIID is very good at isolating such pathogens.
A good example is Hantavirus.
This indicates to me that either something in the higher echelons has caused a panic in the government, or that someone is looking at this as a possible excuse for government control.
Objective 4: Test effects of supplemental protein and carbohydrate [e.g.,
high fructose corn syrup (HFCS)] feedings on bee health.
Priority: Very High; Duration: Medium
Plan: Reports in the 1970s indicated that HFCS contains low levels of
poisonous hydroxy-methyl-furfural (HMF). Using both cage and field
studies, the effects of sugar-substitute HFCS and protein-substitute
supplements on bee health will be explored. Nutrient content will be
analyzed and the metabolism of bees will be monitored. Additional testing
could involve examination of GMO corn products (HFCS) to determine
their potential impact on bee health when incorporated into HFCS.
I know this will start a fight.
The use of HFCS is a huge issue in the world of Apiaries. This I think along with the neonicotinoids may be the keys here.
Objective 1: Test effects (lethal and sub-lethal) of neonicotinoids and other
pesticides used for crop protection.
Priority: Very High; Duration: Medium
Plan: WG Teams will conduct laboratory and field experiments to
examine the level of pesticide exposure that bees may be receiving while
working crops treated with insecticides. Incoming nectar and pollen loads
from worker bees on specific crops will be analyzed for pesticides. Cage
studies may be used to simulate "worst case" scenarios where bees are
confined to a single diet.
Researchers will test the effects of lethal and sub-lethal doses of
insecticides on the development of honey bee brood, in vivo and in vitro,
and on the longevity of adult bees. Specifically, scientists will be testing
the life span, learning ability, and orientation of reared bees, particularly
as this relates to CCD.
Additionally, laboratory, greenhouse, field-cage, and open-field
experiments will be conducted to examine the effects of pesticide exposure
on honey bees and non-Apis bees that forage on single and/or various
crops treated with pesticides (e.g., insecticides, miticides, and fungicides).
Nectar and pollen from honey bee and bumble bee foragers and from
pollen-nectar provisions from solitary bee nests will be analyzed for
pesticide contamination. The lethal effects of direct pesticide exposure of
adult bees and brood will be determined by bee mortality, while sub-lethal
effects will be determined through evaluation of adult foraging and
orientation behaviors as well as reproductive success. The study of non-
Apis bees addresses whether other bees serving as pollinators are
susceptible to the same lethal/sublethal factors as honey bees and whether
solitary bees can be reliable, readily accessible, surrogate species for
evaluating pesticidal impacts on bees.
If what I read in this action plan is accurate, then its telling me that the government is scared, and that indeed something very real is happening.
If so, we will need to look for several things.
1: All information coming out needs to be catalogues and archived.
2: Signs that the Feds are going to try and take some kind of action to either take over apiaries, or somehow regulate the practice of bee keeping. In relation to other industries, apiaries are somewhat lax in regulations, and this gives the government an opportunity to try some kind of further regulatory power. Word to the wise:
Keep a pulse on congress and start writing your Senators and Reps to get a feel as to what they want to do.
3: A network on such a site as this should be devoted STRICKLY to CCD and the eventual outcome. This would be an open forum, and one that everyone can and should read.
This is the way the DoD is involved. They have been funding Jerry Bromenschenk for years in various projects that involve using odor to find explosives etc. He's a bee scientist from the U of Montana and has used bees in a unique way ie. finding land mines. The DoD allowed him the freedom to jump in on the initial research with his specialized equipment.
The other plans mentioned have all been thought of and examined.
>>>the Feds are going to try ......to.. take over apiaries<<<
The picture this brought to mind had me laughing so hard I was afraid I woke John up.
Someone should make a movie.
Too many variables to control in an insect that flies for miles. I did not see any beekeepers on the participant list. If CCD colonies remain unaffected by wax moth and SHB for a period of time you could also study them, but if the hives later get robbed out by bees, SHB, and WM, then gathering more facts now would be difficult.
Maybe just put some cameras in Daves hives?
I aint got no problem. But I am a bit of a pessimist on this.
She couldn't tell us more because the paper is being peer reviewed for publication. But it was the one constant against all the variables they found in CCD hives.
She felt the paper would be published in the next few months. Stay tuned!!!
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Well, I've trudged through the action plan a couple of times. I'm not one to put much, if any, faith in the feds to put together a plan and see it through in a timely and efficient manner.
However, this action plan seems to be a pretty good plan for both short-term and long-term bee research. They've covered a wide variety of areas that they say they're going to investigate, and it seems like they've pulled in the big guns to participate. I look forward to the work they're proposing.
I do have three reservations...
1.) I don't trust the investigation of insecticide, pesticide, miticide, etc. poisoning to be free of influences from the manufacturers of those products. I hope that the researchers can operate in an environment that is free from the pressures and politics that are so often associated with issues involving big money. My cynicism tells me that mid way through a controlled study that is leading the researchers to indict one or more chemical compounds traced to a brand-name product, they're going to get a call from a supervisior or director telling them that the study has been defunded and all work is to cease immediatly. And please deliver all files and documents to my office by the end of the day, no copies allowed.
2.) The dollar amounts of funding are ridiculously low. My little homey town steals more than this each year from taxpayers to buy baseballs for our big amateur tournaments.
3.) Alternative management practices, specifically small cell, didn't even get a first glance, let alone a second glance, or did I miss their mention somewhere? Are the researchers unaware of them, or are they aware and simply dismissed them out of hand? Even the cell phone/magnetic field shift idea was mentioned.In fiscal year (FY) 2007, ARS had a honey bee research budget of $7.4 million, the focus of research being on controlling the varroa mite pest and microbial pathogens and on improving honey bee nutrition. Between FY 2000 and FY 2006, the Cooperative State Research, Education, and Extension Service (CSREES) spent an average of $1.7 million per year on honey bee and pollinator research; roughly one third to one half of this funding was spent on research on honey bee health. Additional funds are now being redirected by ARS Areawide Integrated Pest Management program to conduct a full-scale areawide project on honey bee health in the amount of $1 million per year for the next 5 years. Meanwhile, CSREES has tapped $117,000 in unexpended funds from the Critical and Emerging Issues Program to provide seed grants for CCD.
Who's laughing? I have come to the realization that many believe many different things. Just on this site, and it was no joke, serious discussions about......
Bush did not want to just listen to phone calls of known terrorists, but was going to listen to each and every one of all phone calls. All 45 billion per year, or whatever the number is.
There was talk of "Will Bush step down after his term is up?" Comments that he would take over the county and make himself king!
The mass media is constantly filled with agenda driven propoganda. Blacks think the white man is doing this, democrates accuse the republicans, the religious is going to do that....on and on, people soak all this up.
So all of a sudden someone suggests that perhaps the goverment is going to take over the apiaries, and its a laugher??? I agree that the choice of words could mean, what?...something like armed guards at the entrance to apairies? No, I don't think so. Perhaps taking over apiaries could mean mass registration, formal licensing, fees, continueing education, and so on.
Many professions are licensed and controlled in such a way. Whether it be auctioneers, barber shops, etc. Much of the agriculture community is licensed and regulated with classroom credits, certification, and the like.
I find it laughable, that so many absurd comments are made in so many areas....and yet, goverment control of just one more item such as "beekeeping" is considered laughable.
If you think ssocom1 comments are not feasible, then state so, and explain why. But to somehow suggest his comments are laughable on the surface is downright cruel, unjustified, and really low.
I have a goverment that wants to take away my right to bear arms. They are talking about suppressing open air waves with "fair" doctrine laws. They want to tell me how to raise my kids. My governor in Pa. wants to make sending children to preschool at age three mandatory. I can't do many things, and for many other things, a license, a permit, a tax, or some other restrictive guideline is required.
Could a central agency be one day in place to regulate beekeeping? I don't think its laughable. I think it could happen.
The bee industry as it exists today is not for the hobbiest. Its not for the honey industry. They could not care if Joe Blow has a few hives in this township or not. And it does not care about how much honey you produce. They could just increase the already 60% of imported honey.
What the industry and goverment cares about, and where the decision and money matter, is the protection of the food industry. And I don't think it would be laughable to suggest that in protecting this national security issue (food), that goverment control would be something to suggest as impossible.
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Gosh, Mike, did you forget to take your meds this morning?
Just kidding!
I know it is a serious situation but the image of Dan Akroid and John Belushi trying to run a beeyard just cracked me up.
Laughter is good for a person, you should try it some time.
I laugh all the time. You just need to read this site often enough.....
Sherri, I know you have been one of the nicer, more level headed members of beesource. I mean no personal attack.
I am serious about CCD. I have commented on the impact of CCD in regards to growers on another recent thread. Of course, I feel those commented are just glossed over by people who have suggested that growers have no options other than honeybees.
Soocom1 comments touches upon something we should all think about. When an industry can not fend for itself, when an industry needs goverment intervention, funding, and guideance...when an industry seeks congressional meetings and brings such a matter as the industries vulnerability(lack of) to providing pollination to the food industry....sometimes those headlines, those funds being sought, and those scare tactics being employed...all come with a cost.
I don't want to be a negative doom and gloomer. I just want to make people aware of the impact of growers with the mountain of articles calling for a collapse of the bee industry. And the impact when you beg for federal funding and pose the scenario to goverment, that the industry needs funding. Funding usually is attached to regulations, restrictions, and goverment oversight. SOOcom1 comments should be worth at least considering as a real possibility. Other industries have gone down this same path.
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"And the impact when you beg for federal funding and pose the scenario to goverment, that the industry needs funding. Funding usually is attached to regulations, restrictions, and goverment oversight."
Your point is valid. There will always be those in the federal government who are convinced that they are the best stewards of your money and your property. It would behoove those of us in the beekeeping arena to keep them at arms length while at the same time encouraging the research. It would be nice if the researchers could simply do their work and make it available WITHOUT unnecessary interference from politicians who will take the opportunity to "do something" about CCD and bee health in general. I think we have the opportunity for a straight forward investigation without undue complications if folks will calmly mention the issue to the powers-that-be.
Now, back to the action plan. I'm not clear on the timing of most of it. I saw the items classified by priority and duration, but no date certain on implementing a particular item. Does anyone know when we can expect something measurable as far as reporting results?
I, too, thought it was humorous (maybe a comedy called "The Doomsday Beeks" or some such)... Maybe the government will "get involved", but rest easy -- nothing gets done very quickly in Congress...
Bjorn, no offense meant... I don't want to be regulated any more than you do, however, regulations are always thought upon as evil - when they are imposed on your specific industry. Without regulations, for example, crop-dusters could be flying directly over your house and bee yard. You don't mind that type of regulation, do you?
Perhaps CCD is a serious matter, perhaps not - we will need to see what researchers might determine before we get our undies in a bunch. In the meantime, on a positive note, perhaps this situation will have far-reaching effects towards decreasing the use of agricultural and industrial chemicals, or at least more thorough testing the effects of these products and new technologies.
I believe I am doing the best I can in reducing my dependence on chemicals - I am an organic grower, located in a secluded valley with my farm and beehives miles from any large agricultural entity -- only near small Amish and other organic family-run farms. I'll admit, I haven't always been non-chemical dependent, but I have decided to raise my fruit and produce in this way. It is more costly, and time-consuming, but I wouldn't want it any other way.
Very humorous Mapman. Why not ask me if I want my kids blown away by a gun, then using that as justification to ban all weapons. Typical ploy and rationalization.
I pollinate in the heart of amish and mennonite country in Lancaster county Pennslvania. You must have different amish then I do. Here, they toss chemicals in the fields like candy. I had thought they were more natural in some manner, and that they had better farming practices than those "other" farmers who used gas engines and nasty chemicals. Boy, was I wrong. Your "small amish and other organic family run farms" comment was a real laugher....
Next time you visit one of these farms, take notice to the pile of empty chemical containers out behind the barn.
Bjorn - you did forget your meds, didn't you! I certainly did not want to get into a shoving match regarding weapon banning. I like to hunt, but I also like some regulations as I don't want five-year-olds carrying deer rifles into the woods...
You're a "Lumper" Lump all regulations together as "evil", and all religious groups or cultures together as "evil", etc.... Evil, evil, evil...
Check out "Organic Valley Cooperative" in my area - the nation's oldest and largest organic farmer's cooperative http://organicvalley.coop/
I know my neighbors very well - 9 out of 10 are organic farmers, including dairy certification. I've stacked hay, mended fences, and had joint-ventures in produce crops with them. So, I know what is in their sheds and barns, and what is behind their barns.
Mike, nanananaNAna, our Amish are better than yours are!!
Seriously, I have found that the majority of Amish in our immediate area are trying to be less chemically dependant than your typical farmer, exceptions apply, of course. Many are realizing they can find a niche market with organic or at least more "natural" produce.
We are happy to have them as neighbors for many reasons, one of which is that they still tend to pasture their livestock, unlike many of the more "modern" farmers. In our area where corn is increasingly the preferencial crop, pasture for cows means pasture for bees, a GOOD thing.
Back to the subject at hand. While I might make an offhand comment about government regulations re apiaries, (especially late at night )that should not be taken as dismissive to soocom1's or your concerns. As a commercial operation totally dependant on honeybees for our livelihood, we have as much to lose as anyone in a worse case scenario. I, however, don't think it's time to panic quite yet. I agree with your points on crying "Wolf", sometimes emphasizing a problem can have unexpected, unpleasant results. But educating the public about the very serious issues the honeybee industry in this country faces, in balance, I think, will be a good thing.
Mapman, Are you actually trying to be this irritating?
I was once almost thrown off this site for suggesting someone "Not get thier panties in a bunch', by Barry himself.
Keep your comments of medications and calling others "lumpers" to yourself.
I apoligize if your an actual 8 year old kid, as I don't actually know you or your mentality. But I am getting a sense.......
Mr. BjornBee:
I sincerely apologize to you, sir, and to others on this forum if I was unintentionally rude and irritating in my responses to this issue at hand -- CCD.
Map, No harm, no foul. Sometimes this is just how discussions go. I'm sometimes the instigator, and sometimes the brunt of the joke. Its all good in the end when apoligies are given. I know its hard for some to know when I'm jabbing at an issue for entertainment sake (I'm sick that way), and when I'm serious.
Please except my apoligy......till next time...
For those who laughed..
Go ahead, and laugh.
If you don't believe this, look at the beef industry. For over 200 years, they have had to be branded. Now, cattle must by law be located 100% of the time with GPS co-ordinates. These co-ordinances MUST be relayed to the USDA with in 48 hours and is part of what is known as NAIS. The National Animal Identification System. For those not familiar:
This program includes ALL beef, ALL poultry, ALL horses, ALL llamas, ALL goats, basically any and ALL livestock int he US. The reason........
Supposedly to 'make sure' that all food sources int he US is safe.
Forget that isolation of infectious diseases have been hugely successful in the US for over 100 years. Forget that most outbreaks in the US are isolated VOLUNTARILY by the farmers, and have been hugely successful in preventing decimation of animal herds for nearly 150 years.
So if the NAIS can be implemented on farmers and ranchers.... Who's to say it cant be implemented in some for on apiarists.
Yes there have been problems. But look at our food supply vs. that of the rest of the world.
As for those who are major apiaries, don't discount this. Fed. regulatory take over of the industry is VERY possible. As I explained to someone else, its not that I dispute that something has happened..
Its that it is happening in a matter that is not consistent with problems of this sort.
This raises my suspension greatly.


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So do I, keeping things quiet never helped anyone in the long term as any reaction just gets multiplied.
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The latest news: http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/ … 63,00.html
I do have some sympathy for people on low incomes who have to look out for the bargains, but it all ties in with good cooking. Use fresh stuff, spend a little time on preparation and get the kids involved where possible to help you out.
My last chicken was from a rare (now I work full time) trip to the local farmers' market. It cost about £7 but was huge. The stock from the giblets and a few basic additions made fantastic gravy for the most tender and tasty meat. And it fed 2 adults and a littl'un for 2 days with only a few (cheap) veg additions.
I read today (not sure if it was in a different observer article from the one linked above) that Bernard's tukey escalopes (which I would have thought to be turkey fillet cut from the breast or something) were only 30 something % turkey! How much of a con is that Never mind passing off some Brazilian / Hungarian turkeys as British just because they were killed here, it's a disgrace. Half the people that buy the stuff probably don't accept someone from a non-White background as British even if they're 4th generation - but s.hit tasteless cheap "ham", that's ok.
It makes me quite mad. We'll cope with it, despite individual hardships, but what about countries without the economic infrastructures to do so? For Bernard to be engaging in such dishonest and dishonourable practices which could possibly contribute to the spread of disease should surely breach some law?
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Well said Kirst.
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This thread's gone quiet!
Bernard is back in business: http://www.guardian.co.uk/birdflu/story … 67,00.html
There are several turkey farms like this, it would appear. My FIL fed us frozen turkey for Christmas and I have to say it tasted awful. No flippin wonder.


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I'm a 56 year old backpacker planning a thru-hike on the AT starting March 15th, 2010. I am interested in hearing from other long distance hikers about things that made their trips successful. This could be preparation, training, diet, philosophy or anything else you think might be of help.Jan 22, 2009 at 12:56 pm #1472076
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That's a big question. I planned my hike to a T, and had to be finished on an exact date. I had my parents send mail drops with food and supplies. I stayed with friends at several places along the way and slack-packed as much as I felt like doing (including through all of NJ-NY, which I thought was pretty funny). And I did pretty well… finished exactly when I needed to, only lost 5 pounds of body weight and 10 pounds of pack weight.
That said, I don't think this is the best way to do a big hike. Since then, I have done a lot of planning on other backpacking trips, but always give myself a lot more time than I think I'll need, and let my schedule change as it needs to. The problem with my fixed end-date, my mail drops, and staying with friends along the way was that I really couldn't improvise much. I think a better way is to have more money and time than you will need, and then just go with the flow. Shop for food along the way so you never have to wait in town for a mail drop that didn't make it in time. Plan where you'll camp no more than a week in advance. Take a day off in town if you need to. And especially, hang out with the friends you make along the way.
Of course, two things to do before the trip starts are test your gear and get in shape. That pretty much goes without saying.Jan 22, 2009 at 2:11 pm #1472101
Thanks for the advise Ryan. I'm in good shape on the time. I'm retiring before the end of the year. Also I hiked a section with a thru-hiker last year that agrees with not doing mail drops. He said everything you needed could be purchased along the way. I may do a drop box but only plan to pick it up every couple of weeks.
I am planning to meet a couple of friends along the way. Where and when we meet will be decided as the trip progresses.
If you think of anything else please send it my way.Jan 22, 2009 at 5:44 pm #1472157
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Have you been to whiteblaze.net? You could know absolutely nothing about backpacking and learn pretty much everything you need to hike the AT there (fyi, most people on that site are not UL, but the site is a good starting point).
Also, try reading some trail journals at trailjournals.com. These will give you a sense of what it's like to hike the trail on a day-to-day basis. If you poke around, you can probably find someone who is similar to you in terms of age and experience and see how their hike went.
One last thing: a friend of just published a book called "How to Hike the AT." I haven't seen the book, and it may be beneath your experience level, but she's a great writer. Good luck.Jan 22, 2009 at 6:03 pm #1472163
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Since you are going NOBO all you need to do is show up with at least 3-4 days food to get you to Neel Gap. Buy another 3 days there to get to Hiawassee. Just keep doing that and that is all you need. Southern mountains are easy and there are outfitters and hostels/hotels everywhere. You can show up with zero backpacking experience and will be fine so if you do have experience its a piece of cake. Eventually you will get settled in and it will just feel right.
If you start SOBO your life is a lot easier if you have your stuff together, but NOBO is cool either way.Jan 23, 2009 at 5:04 am #1472259
Thanks Scott, I have poked around on White Blaze. You are right they are not UL but that's okay. I tend to be on the light weight side of UL (9-11 lb.). And as far as trail journals, I've followed several hikers from one end of the trail to the other on TrailJournals.com.
I checked out your friend's book. It got good reviews, so one is on the way from Amazon.
As for my experience, I've been backpacking (mostly traditional) for the past eleven years. I try to get out at least once a month for an overnight trip but really look forward to a week + on the AT in the spring. Last year I did 6 days in Shenandoah. I also attended WT1-RM and had a ball hiking in the Rockies.
I don't consider any advise below my experience level so if you think of anything else, forward it on!
ThanksJan 23, 2009 at 5:27 am #1472261
Robert, you make it sound so simple. And that's how I hope I can make this trip. Re-supply and walk a few days and then do it again. Some place I heard that the best way to do this was not to think of it as one long hike but several one week hikes. That way you are only six days away from a goal.
I'm starting to believe this thing is going to be more mental than physical.
I will be hiking NOBO with my son (age 22). I thought SOBO would be more fun (hiking back home to the south), but he wants to go the traditional way and I can see some advantages. As the days get longer we will be in better condition to hike more hours. Also I understand that the hostels and businesses that cater to hikers open sooner in the south plus we would have to wait for Katahdin to open. I don't want a strict schedule but it would be nice to walk just ahead of summer. Leaving in mid-March we sould be able to avoid the heat until we are in the mid-Atlantic states.
I've hiked Georgia once. From Springer to Neel's Gap was a two day hike with a 40 lb. pack. I'm looking forward to seeing if droping about half that weight will make that an easier trip.
If you think of anything else send it on.Jan 23, 2009 at 5:37 am #1472263
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I agree, don't get overwhelmed with the idea of getting to Katahdin. I liked to make smaller goals for myself; get to NC, get to VA, hike through Shenandoah, get home to Jersey, etc., etc. That way the goals seemed much more tangible.
I arrived at Springer in '05 with much less experience than you will. You are well ahead of the game. You could not be more right though, after about two months on the trail, it became much more of a mental "challenge" than a physical one….albeit a very enjoyable "challenge".
Good luck. Enjoy the trip.Jan 23, 2009 at 8:10 am #1472289
Brad, thanks for the encouragement. I was thinking even smaller, like a shower at Mountain Crossing, a hamburger at the NOC, a sponge bath in the restroom at Clingman's Dome, pizza at Standing Bear Farm (Curtis is a great host), cold beer at the Paddler's Pub in Hot Springs. Things like that!Jan 23, 2009 at 10:13 am #1472332
Ryan LinnMember
@ryan-c-linnLocale: Maine!
Another part I forgot to mention… when asking past thru-hikers for advice, always take it with more than a grain of salt. The mantra you hear is "hike your own hike" but most people who've finished the trail (myself included) can get pretty over-excited when asked for advice. So remember… it's your own hike. That's why my best piece of advice is to remain flexible. Maybe something that seems like a good idea now will seem less so when you get there (like the hamburger at NOC versus a full night's stay). You won't know for sure until you get there, and nobody else will be able to tell you, either.Jan 24, 2009 at 3:49 am #1472537
Ryan that is the direction I want to go. I don't want to be on a schedule. I don't want to have to be somewhere by a certain day. I think a general plan for the week (mostly to make sure I have plenty of food) will be enough. Then each morning get up and head north. Have an idea where I want to stop for the night. But I see from the advice in this thread and a couple I read in WB last night is like you said be flexible.
Speaking of food, anybody want to offer some suggestions? I've been cooking on a wood stove for the last year. I'm going to modify it so I can use alcohol in bad weather or when twigs are not available.Jan 24, 2009 at 4:12 am #1472538
Robert BryantMember
@kg4famLocale: Upstate
Just like mentioned before flexibility is the answer to food as well. It looks like you are on the right track by not relying on a wood stove.
One thing that I saw this summer by a "planner" was carrying a pot that was too small to cook in. This person was planning on using mail drop freezer bag meals the whole way and thought that they only needed enough of a pot to boil water. It turned out that they hated their prepackaged meals and struggled to cook regular stuff.
Mail drops are dumb if you don't have special diet concerns. Its a waste of time and money on your end and your support person. There is plenty of food at stores along the trail.Jan 24, 2009 at 5:41 am #1472545
Scott SMember
@sschloss1Locale: New England
Robert, I'm a little sick of AT folks saying that mail drops for food are dumb. I've used mail drops on 1000 miles of trail now, and I wouldn't do the AT any other way. I loved my food, I was glad to not have to worry about getting to grocery stores (not always easy), and I saved money by being able to buy in bulk, even after shipping costs. To me, my meals looked tastier and healthier than what people who resupply on trail were eating.
That said, there's no right or wrong when it comes to mail drops–if you want to plan ahead, go for it. If you want to resupply in stores, do that.
Here's the best AT planning advice I can give you: ignore any blanket statements that x (whatever it is) is good, bad, the best, the worst, dumb, or brilliant. What's best or worst is going to be different for every hiker.Jan 24, 2009 at 11:03 am #1472586
Frank DelandMember
@ramblerLocale: On the AT in VA
Another website dedicated mostly to the AT is Trailplace.com
For the AT in New Hampshire with many photos of both the mountains and the shelters goto hikethewhites.comJan 24, 2009 at 3:56 pm #1472649
Patricia CombeeMember
@trailfrogLocale: Northeast/Southeast your call
Don't overplan (plans will probably start changing from day 1); be flexible; have a sense of humor.
Some mail drops are helpful in places without much in the way of stores (use hiker hostels, outfitters, etc, since the PO might be closed when you get to where you sent your stuff to and then you will have to either wait for PO to open or just say the heck with it).
Don't get caught up in trying either keep up with a group or slow down for a group; you will most likely see them again either way.
Enjoy every day, the good days, the bad days and everything in between! Lastly, remember that you are out there because you want to be, not because you have to be.Jan 24, 2009 at 6:48 pm #1472688
Robert, I'm not much of a planner especially when it comes to meals. I've tried planning for a two week hike. By the end there were foods I never wanted to see again. I met a guy at REI that said at the end of his hike he still had a pallet of oatmeal. Plus if I was to rely on my support person to send the mail drops I might get puppy food. She is taking care of my dog and about 2 months into the trip I can she her switching our food to get me back home.Jan 24, 2009 at 6:49 pm #1472690
Scott I like to hear everyone's opinion but I agree with on finding what works best, worst or in between for me. Thanks for your comments on mail drops. I used them summer of 07 for a trip through the Smokies and up to Hot Springs. I sent way too much stuff. I don't think I want to do that for this trip. However I am considering a bounce box.Jan 24, 2009 at 6:50 pm #1472691
Frank thanks for the link to the Whites. I'll check it out!Jan 24, 2009 at 6:51 pm #1472693
Patricia, a group of hikers hit the same shelters I did in the summer of 07. While the company was great I wondered if being in such a large group actually hindered their progress. I only know of one that made it to Katahdin. He finished after the mountain was closed. While I hope to meet a lot of new friends on the trail, I agree that this has to be at my pace.
And I'm one of those people that can find humor in almost anything. I hope it holds up on the trail. Thanks.Feb 2, 2009 at 5:33 pm #1474895
Jesse GloverMember
@hellbillylarryLocale: southern appalachians
I think the biggest mistake people make while thru-hiking the AT is making it harder/more complicated than it is. I mean its just hiking in the woods you are never more than 6 days from a store and hardly ever do you go a day without at least crossing an FS rd. What I am saying is take it one day at a time have fun take breaks take zero days whatever just have a good time even if that means you don't make it the whole way. Hiking the AT is probably easier than any job you've ever had.Feb 3, 2009 at 5:23 am #1475010
Thanks Jesse, and as I prepare for this I'm seeing that one day at a time is going to be the best way. Instead of a big schedule I'll plan each day as it comes. Some of the best days I've had hiking are when I just get up and walk. I get tired I take a break or lay down and go to sleep.Feb 17, 2009 at 5:38 am #1478400
Jen StockbridgeMember
I hiked most of the AT in 2003 and finished in 2004. I can tell you that instead of sticking to my very strict "acceptable" foods that I'd spent months creating in my food dehydraytor, I was eating like everyone else within 6 weeks. All those meals I'd dehydrated went into hiker boxes. I could get by resupplying from gas stations! And that is sometimes what I did.
I am currently planning and training for a 300 mile AT section hike. My anticipated schedule has me planning to resupply from: a large grocery store (Erwin) hiker boxes/hostel supplies (Standing Bear and Mountain Harbor), and maildrops (Hot Springs and Kincora). I have never *planned* to resupply from a hiker box before–this will be a (however small) adventure I'm looking forward to.
Earlier in this thread someone suggested thinking about your hike as a string of week-long hikes–town to town, as it were. This is excellent advice. No matter how you resupply, it's impossible to always arrive in town with an empty food bag. I managed that ONCE during my entire AT experience. Between trail magic (prevalent during early spring but NEVER to be counted on) and unanticipated zero days, early maildrops can easily be too much or too little. God forbid you should have an circumstance, injury or otherwise, that takes you off the trail. But it does happen frequently. If you are loathe to think of "all that money spent" on maildrop food, you may want to pass on buying in bulk before hand.
When I look back on all the time and money I spent on making and sending food I didn't eat, I have two ultimate thoughts: 1. I enjoyed the planning–that was a good thing 2. wasting money is a bad thing. So it kind of cancels out for me. Enjoy your planning and preparing. It's as much "your hike" as the hike itself, I think. Godspeed!Feb 17, 2009 at 6:10 am #1478401
I had not thought about that. I have planned to drop extras I buy in the box but give a little take a little might work well for me.
When will you be doing your hike? I'm planning a section from Allen Gap to Damascus towards the end of April, first of May. May be we will cross paths.
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The man who sparked a hijack scare on a Virgin Australia flight to Bali on Friday has claimed an in-flight panic attack prompted him to bang on the door of the cockpit, which he thought was the toilet.
Matt Lockley, 28, of Queensland was released by Indonesian authorities late on Sunday and will be flown back to Australia on Monday afternoon.
Because it was an Australian flight, it's now up to Australian authorities to decide whether to charge Mr Lockley or take any other action.
In a statement to the media late on Sunday, Mr Lockley said, "This has been a huge misunderstanding.
"I had a panic attack and I just wanted to use the toilet and I made an accident [sic] by knocking on the cockpit door."
Mr Lockley thanked the Indonesian police and authorities.
"They've only followed procedure and they've provided me with a lot of care and support and I'm very grateful for everything they have done," he said.
One investigator said that, on the flight, Mr Lockley had been "under the delusion that the lady sitting next to him had tried to smuggle illegal drugs into his bag while he was asleep".
After he had banged on the cockpit door, he had been asked to sit down by one of the business class passengers, and he immediately sat. But the crew restrained him because of he had already been involved in other disturbances during the flight.
Mr Lockley spent Friday and Saturday in the Bali police hospital, where doctor Jaowenny Lolo said he was dizzy and had been vomiting.
Late on Sunday night, Mr Lockley was handed over to Australian consular officials and taken away.
Indonesian Transport Ministry spokesman Rudi Richardo said Mr Lockley would return on Virgin Australia's flight to Brisbane at 3pm Bali time (5pm AEST) on Monday.
Mr Richardo said Mr Lockley would have been required to return to Australia to answer questions from investigators "no matter what" and that, after that was explained to him, he had agreed to return voluntarily.
Virgin Australia has refused to explain publicly why the pilot, Neil Cooper, activated a hijack alert in response to Mr Lockley's behaviour.
Virgin has confirmed that the pilot or copilot of the flight activated a 7500 alert code – which, in international aviation terms, signifies a hijack – but did not deactivate the alert during the remaining 45 minutes in the air when it became clear it was not a hijack situation.
Airline sources have defended the pilot's action, saying it was "as per training" and it was not within the pilots' power to change the activation code. They have instead pointed the finger at Bali air traffic control.
Indonesian officials have questioned the pilot, copilot, cabin crew, air traffic controller and aviation security personnel on duty on flight VA41. An investigator said the results would be relayed to Australian authorities.
The alert triggered a full military response at Bali airport, shutting it down for almost an hour at its busiest time on Friday afternoon.
The incident affected 139 passengers and directly caused delays to 13 flights trying to land at, or fly out of, Bali airport.
Indonesian aviation consultant Gerry Soejatman, who was at Bali airport at the time, said tens, or even hundreds of thousands of people might have had plans disrupted as delays flowed through Indonesia's clogged aviation system to Jakarta airport and beyond.
Mr Lockley has insisted he was not drunk, but said he had taken some Panadol and anti-inflammatory drugs, and two drinks of Coke at Brisbane airport before boarding the flight.


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Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Maofan7, Feb 16, 2013.
As long as Patrick competes...no.
Agreed, I saw Kevin skate live for the first time this past January and was not overly impressed. Patrick, despite his flawed program, was very impressive. He was so fast.
Can he? Sure. Patrick would have to keep declining and Kevin would have to keep improving but there's nothing to say that won't happen. Could it happen by Worlds? That seems more doubtful. It's less than a month away.
Though Kevin's score at 4CCs was a lot closer to Patrick's scores on the GP than Kevin's scores on the GP were and therefore it seems a lot more likely than it has been up until now.
If Patrick misses the bus. I like Kevin but I don't expect this 'winning streak' to continue.
Kevin can beat Patrick if Patrick falters and Kevin lands tons of quads, but no one will ever consider Reynolds to be a better SKATER than Chan, even if say Reynolds somehow managed to medal or place ahead of Chan at the Olympics. Chan would still be number 1, it might just mean he'd be remembered as a skater who never delivered his best at the Olympics, like Joubert.
I don't know that even if Reynolds were to beat Chan in London it would make Reynolds, Canada's #1 male skater. Chan is not having his most consistent season, so if Reynolds some how does manage to pass him, the best result would probably be that it will be a wake-up call to Patrick to get a real figure skating coach.
In Reynolds' defense, he should be entering Worlds with a lot of confidence. Plus his speed isn't THAT awful. (He certainly isn't slower than Sandhu, who I always adored, but could never figure out how he got enough speed to ever land more than a single jump. ) And Reynolds does get decent pop into his jumps - but he certainly doesn't cover the ice like a lot of the other big jumpers out there. I do think he's come a long way over the last few seasons in trying to improve his artistry however, so I give him credit for that - and other than his sheepdog hair, I always believed that was one of the main criticisms people had with his skating. I can't believe I'm the only person who has seen at least some improvement over the last few years.
Reynolds was just really lucky to skate one free program where a number of his jumps weren't cheated over 1/4. It's not very likely to happen again.
His jump technique is atrocious and seeing judges give him +1s and +2s for his quads was just .
Sylvia you are correct, Kevin was humble and realistic in his assessment of his victory. The most he did was said it helped his confidence going into worlds and helped change other's perceptions of him, no prediction he was headed to the podium. He even acknowledged that better skaters than he had a bad day. I believe I recall his coach saying that if any skater had those kinds of lofty thoughts for worlds, they would best be kept private. This was not a self aggrandizing interview, but one expressing some realistic happiness at what he had achieved.
So instead, she said them
I agree that Kevin was very humble and realistic (which hasn't always been the case with his comments on some of his placements in the past). It's too bad his coach can't be the same way.
I thought McLeod's quotes were reasonable -- for her -- this time:
Remember when nobody thought Jeff Buttle could be beaten at the national level and Chan took the title in 2008. Granted, Jeff's free program wasn't clean but at the time, Buttle was the reigning master of CoP, too.
I don't think either of the articles are proclaiming him to be a world podium contender, but rather saying that he could be. Kevin did in fact beat two of the world's best skaters. There have been plenty of times when the top skaters didn't skate their best and it came down to who made the least mistakes as no one went clean.
Yes, Kevin's win was fluke and the stars lined up for him. But he earned it fair and square, more fair and square than Sandhu's GPF win over Plush when Plush lost the title due to a zayack.
Kevin may never again have such a perfect skate but he will always be the 2013 FCC Men's Champ.
And I hope he gets some confidence from the event. If Patrick doesn't defend his title at World's he'll need to improve upon his 12th place finish last season for us to get three men on the Olympic team.
What I find extremely frustrating is that Reynolds probably could have been really successful with a proper coach. Who would work on improving his basics and fixing his jumps. But no, he's stuck with McLeod and all he can hope for with her is fluke performances like the one at 4CC where he'll stand up on his jumps and where the cheats will be less than 1/4. He deserves better.
Sylvia, I'd agree with you if it wasn't for this one:
If the story had quotes from other people reflecting the same opinion, I might believe that "people" are actually "saying" such a thing. But as it is, especially with Reynolds' past inconsistencies, it sounds IMO like the usual delusional hot air, or pre-Worlds politicking.
If Reynolds overtakes Chan as Canadian #1 then I'll not so shyly pretend I'm no longer Canadian....
I doubt it. I think Patrick would pretty much have to implode.
I would rather Sarah Hughes came back and won a second Olympic Gold Medal
Both Dai and Yuzuru singled out Kevin before 4Cs or at least before the FP as one whose strengths they had observed with respect. I doubt they think less of him now.
I was amazed by KR at 4Cs. The ugly duckling has turned into a soulful and brilliant performer. Who knows who will slip on the ice next but at the moment his trajectory is upward and Patrick's I am not so sure about. I am hoping he will kindly delay his dominance of the sport until after Sochi, however.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH! Stop scaring me!
I think Kevin suffers a bit from the perception of how bad his skating used to be. I've certainly done my share of Kevin bashing, from his ridiculous styling to his non-existent choreography and poor skating skills. But to be quite honest, looking at his skating today it's clear he has spent a lot of time on fixing those things. His long program especially has complex, musical choreography. His posture is good (has a beautifully arched back) and he has some lovely port de bras. Even his spins are pretty good. Yes, he has a long way to go, but he's come a long way as well. When I tried to look at his program objectively, instead of seeing it through a "Kevin Reynolds is all jumps and terrible skating" lens, I started to appreciate him much more.
Do I think he's on the level of Patrick's skating? No. Nor Daisuke's or even Hanyu's. But if he knocks it out of the park at worlds, he deserves to be up there. Part of being a good skater is being a good competitor. Worlds and the Olympics are not a lifetime achievement award or even an indicator of who is the best figure skater in the world. It's who is better on that day. God knows we've seen that proved time and time again in skating.
ITA. He is not a powerful jumper nor skater. I could never watch his skating twice.. so boring and nothing is impressive. His lack of power in his skating, height on his jump and technique on his jumps reminds me of a lady's skating.
In McLeod's defense ( :::: looking around :::: who just said that?? )
She has to be talking up her skater to help fuel the perception that he's coming on strong. Publicly understating his skills and results wouldn't really serve much purpose.
I just hope behind the scenes she's telling Kevin he's got a ways to go, for his sake.
Is it okay if I use " 'You skate like a girl' - ks777" as my new signature?
I wouldn't say it's a case of 'Can he' but 'Should he' because... I'd have to say no. He has jumps, granted, but that's it. Not the same quality of skating, speed, edges, expression. I say this as no real fan of pchan -- I can appreciate the prettiness of his skating without liking it. I just don't want to live in world where none of the artistic and performance parts are pushed aside for jumping beans like Kevin and Max. Had Patrick been at 4cc, and skated clean (or even just mostly clean with the way that comp went) he would have beat the crap out of Kevin in PCS alone.
Don't let Tonya Harding see that. She'd run you over with her pick - up truck.
Can Kevin Reynolds overtake Patrick Chan as Canadian Number 1?
Definetely not! Reynolds was extremely lucky at 4CC. He cannot compete against e.g Chan, Takahashi, Hanyu or Fernandez if they manage about 80 % of their potential.
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Grant brings opportunities for Pocatello growth
Banncok Development Corporation receives grant from Idaho Power
POCATELLO, Idaho - Idaho Power has awarded a grant to help the economy in the Pocatello area grow.
Now it's up to the Bannock Development Corporation to figure out how they want to spend the money
According to the BDC, applying for the grant was easy. Idaho Power contacted numerous development agencies around the state, and all that was required was a short application with a few different categories.
Funds from the grant will be used two ways.
The BDC takes recruiting trips to attract businesses. These are called "call trips" essentially calling on businesses in other states like California to come here to Pocatello.
"We're going to follow up with those companies from California," said John Regetz, executive director of the BDC, "and that should probably generate some other call trips that we have to make. So the funds they granted us will help to fray those expenses."
They also want to purchase client-tracking software, allowing them to gather data on businesses staying and businesses expanding.
"Each county's economic development director will have a password or a code," Regetz explained. "They can access that information for day-in, day-out use to help them support those companies that are in their communities, and help them grow and expand."
The BDC's big goal is keeping jobs and making jobs stable. That means bringing in new businesses and finding places for them, like Allstate's and that new building, as well as and finding a new use for current buildings, like the old Ballard building that has become the RISE Complex for Idaho State University.
With new businesses coming in the question comes: will they build new or use old?
"They might build a building when they come into the community, if there's not already one here that addresses their needs," said Regetz. "If there's an existing facility, obviously it would probably be the most cost-effective and, more importantly, the most time-effective process to go in and use the existing building."
Again, they still have to decide how much will be spent. Regetz said they made the award with some limits, so they are just waiting to find out how much they can actually spend.
Regetz also said Idaho Power has been one of the longest-standing supporters of the bannock development corporation.
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On International Women's Day (8th March) Airbus encourages more women to join the aeronautic industry.
Airbus, the worlds leading aircraft manufacturer, is committed to ensuring that at least 25 per cent of its new recruits in 2012 will be women despite the low number of women studying engineering subjects. With the aim to hire 4000 people worldwide this year, Airbus is calling for more women to apply for jobs in sectors that are traditionally seen as male dominated.
Airbus is developing women's careers at all levels of the company with the objective to broaden its know-how and soft skills on managerial capabilities, by increasing the number of women in management positions. To support this, a number of specific actions have been introduced to prepare and promote women at different levels by identifying female talents and their career path through internal development programs such as mentoring, coaching, and leadership development amongst others.
"Airbus wants to attract more women and it is not simply about achieving quotas and targets. I am convinced that a more balanced proportion of women at all levels of the company can only improve Airbus' performance", explained Thierry Baril, Airbus Executive Vice President, Human Resources. "Offering equal chances is an essential corner stone of the Airbus corporate culture" he added.
To explore careers at Airbus visit airbus.com/work/
Employing more than 55,000 people worldwide, of over 100 nationalities, Airbus is the leading aircraft manufacturer with design and manufacturing facilities in France, Germany, the UK, and Spain, as well as subsidiaries in the U.S., China, Japan and in the Middle East.
Some 4,500 new employees were recruited in 2011, driven by an order backlog equivalent to 7-8 years production and the continued development of aircraft programs such as A320neo (new engine option), and the A350 XWB Family. Airbus has sold close to 11,500 aircraft and delivered over 7,000 since its first airliner entered service.
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Hotbarrel, do you have an barrel adapters for the 14 mm left hand to the 24 mm for the 74 style brake for a x39?
sorry but I do not have the 24mm die. how many are you looking for? 1 I assume.
I am off the page for extended times due to job requirements, not gone forever
Hotbarrel - I got side tracked with my work so I've been of the board for a few weeks. Still working on these ? Thanks.
Hotbarrel, I know it's been a while but if you still have a Yugo RPK cleaning rod for sale I'm interested. Thanks!
Hotbarrel move to an island in the south pacific, he didn't take any of his tools with him, and he also hasn't posted for a while.
If you only need it for look (non-functional), you can use an SKS or Mosin rod, but I think these need to be cut down too.
"Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem" Ronald Reagan
Don't know about the SKS rod, but the Mosin rod is too large in diameter to fit most AK type rifles.
I have a daughter. I tell her, "911 is what you dial after you're raped. 1911 is what you should have before they try."
Thanks for the replies. I actually have a cleaning rod from a Polish RPD that I cut down to 20 5/8" so it fits but isn't functional. I got a 4mm x .7 RH die to try and re-thread it but it doesn't like the tempered steel and won't catch. I probably could take it to a machine shop and have them do it but the purist in me would sleep better at night knowing I have a rod made for the rifle.


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IF could switch to automated garbage trucks
IDAHO FALLS, Idaho - Trash rates could be going up in Idaho Falls, but garbage trucks would have less workers. The sanitation department is looking at replacing two of its trucks with automated ones.
Currently, Idaho Falls uses rear-load trucks where a worker has to ride on the side of the vehicle and pick up the trash manually. Automated trucks use less manpower and work faster.
Superintendent of the Idaho Falls Sanitation Department Tony Areheart said the new trucks could eliminate injuries, which ultimately cost the city money through workers compensation.
"We have a lot of injuries with shoulders and backs so we are trying to look at it to see if that is the way we want to go," said Areheart.
If the city makes the change it can also eliminate workers. The City of Ammon went from four drivers to one. This is one reason why Idaho Falls is hesitant. Another is the upfront cost.
"The cost of the trucks are a little bit more and of course we would have to buy the containers," Areheart said.
The automated trucks cost about $190,000. Ray Ellis, public works director for the City of Ammon, said the money is worth the benefits. Ammon has been using automated trucks since 2009.
"It has been great. We went from a five-day week to a four-day week," Ellis said.
Ellis also said money is saved when injuries are prevented.
"We feel really good we have not had any loss-time accidents since then," said Ellis.
Areheart says the pros and cons are high for a decision that could effect customers and workers.
Idaho Falls officials said if the city makes the switch, a 56-gallon or a 90-gallon bin will be provided and all your trash has to fit inside. Your rates in Idaho Falls would go up nearly $5.
A study is being done to weigh the pros and cons of using automated trucks. It could take three to four months before the results are released.