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Sep 22, 2013 at 12:03 pm #1307917
Ok, so I'm young. There are a lot of people who are older than I am who experience soreness and pain. I am invested in making good decisions now so that I'm less sore when I'm 40, 50, 60 years old.
I bought trekking poles, and I use them most of the time, but the ONLY reason I do so is fear of wearing out my knees later in life. One of my mentors, David Eve, had to have an extensive knee surgery last year because of all the backpacking he did when he was my age. I am completely 100% pain-free even after long miles (well, my joints anyways.) Muscles get tired and a vein tumor in my foot hurts sometimes, but my knees, ankles, hips, lower back, neck, and shoulders don't have an ounce of pain. I spend most of my day in Vibram Five Fingers, and my hikes in regular hiking shoes.
I've never gotten an ankle injury, although I do roll my ankles from time to time hiking. I've never dislocated anything. I've also never torn any ligaments or tendons and my flexibility is fine.
I can sleep on hard ground with no pad and still get a good night's rest, although I use a cut-down torso Zlite for a bit of comfort. I don't use a pillow most of the time. This isn't just for camping- I've taken to using the Z-lite on a regular basis. I just lay it down and go to sleep in my own house. It's no different in terms of sleep quality from a mattress and it's a helluva lot less finicky, and I read that floor sleeping is good for posture.
A BPL member here once, who I believe was a doctor, told me that if I haven't felt any pain yet, I likely won't just develop it out of the blue. Maybe I've got good genes?
So… I'll use the poles if the much wiser people here tell me I should use the poles. But at 23 years old with almost two years of running and backpacking, and a decade of cycling, I would love to stop worrying about future pain and listen to my body in the moment.
So… do I need the poles?
Interested in feedback,
P.S. I have a bad vein malformation in my foot. From age 15 to 21, I didn't run or hike or walk long distances from the pain. I did bike all the time, so I never got out of shape. Three surgeries later, I can now run and hike and walk, and it's getting better. Next surgery, I'm hoping to recover and step up from frequent 3-day hikes up to week or month-long backpacking. I can do 20 miles in a day, I just can't do it more than a couple days in a row without a lot of pain.
I only mention this part because I'm not sure if years of relative inactivity is relevant.Sep 22, 2013 at 1:31 pm #2027038
Valerie EBPL Member
@wildtownerLocale: Grand Canyon State
Keep the poles.
Unfortunately, how you will age is impossible to predict fully. You should be able to get some indication from how your parents/grandparents fared as they aged (but they are not "you"). And extra precautions (like using trekking poles to minimize impact) are an excellent idea.
However, how you feel now may not be indicative of how your joints/connective tissue, etc. will perform in the more distant future.
In my 20s, 30s, and even in my early 40s, I rarely had any pain (I was an adventure racer until age 41!); but now, in my mid-50s, I have some serious lower back disk problems, caused by genetics + a lot of wear and tear from many years of training/racing. I still do most of the stuff I enjoy, but unfortunately, pain is now an unavoidable fact of life for me.
IMHO, keep doing what you love, take reasonable precautions, don't ignore any injuries, and take good care of yourself overall. The future will largely take care of itself, and even if you have pain later in life, you'd be surprised at how much you can still accomplish!Sep 22, 2013 at 1:39 pm #2027041
Ok, good info! My genetics look good. On my mother's side (her and her siblings), there's 5 healthy adults including a marathon runner and a professional sailor. My grandparents are both still heartily active, walking daily, living relatively pain-free. My grandmother never stops moving, she's a decade away at least from relaxing. Crazy woman! Board of Directors for U.S. Sailing and ten other things besides.
Both my parents are still up and at 'em, too.
The only things it looks like I have a genetic propensity for is hearing loss and obesity, and I'm not feeling the latter at all. I do have terrible hearing… Can't win them all.Sep 22, 2013 at 1:44 pm #2027044
Eric OsburnBPL Member
I'm not a doctor or physical therapist so take my own personal experience with a grain of salt but here goes.
Up until I was 28 I never had joint pain or even discomfort. I've always been active in mnt biking, hiking, weight lifting.
After college I started working in I.T. and due to the nature of work, getting married and having kids, I gained about 20lbs over the course of a little over five years.
My weight is stable now and I've actually started losing fat while keeping muscle. The worst part about the physical tole of the past five years isn't the fat, it's the sore joints, particularly my knees and ankles while backpacking.
If I can drop 15lbs I know most of my joint problems will go away, especially with the training schedule I've adhered to over the past year.
I use trekking poles and they are a huge relief, especially while lugging 40+ lbs on my back. I plan on using poles for the rest of my life simply because of the support they offer and the stress they take off my joints.
Lifestyle is 50% of the equation, genetics is the other half. If you're hard enough on your body over time it doesn't matter how good your genetics are, you'll develop pain and injuries as you age. I think looking towards the future is wise.Sep 22, 2013 at 2:05 pm #2027058
Valerie EBPL Member
@wildtownerLocale: Grand Canyon State
Good genetics — you are a lucky guy! But remember that "god helps those who help themselves" as the old expression goes — so keep slim, healthy, well-nourished, and don't overdo the sports that involve too much pounding on your joints.
Plus — what the hell — by the time you're old, they'll probably have perfected a lot more artificial joints, vertebrae, etc. ;~)Sep 23, 2013 at 10:19 am #2027307
Dena KelleyBPL Member
@eagleriverdeeLocale: Eagle River, Alaska
My experience matches Eric's. I had zero problems until I was 28. Then things began to change for me. I used to sleep just fine on a z-rest. I don't any more, and have switched to an inflatable. I used to have good knees. I don't any more.
Enjoy your youth, but take care of yourself. Keep the poles- an injury to an ankle or knee tends to stick with you for good by reducing range of motion and causing long term pain in that joint. Better not to get injured.Sep 23, 2013 at 10:42 am #2027316
Cayenne RedmonkBPL Member
@redmonkLocale: Greater California Ecosystem
You would have to be unlucky to have chronic pain at 23, wait 5-12 years, then see how you are doing.Sep 23, 2013 at 11:42 am #2027336
Desert DwellerMember
@drusillaLocale: Wild Wild West
Lots of good advice above. Overuse in time deteriorates joints and cartilages, so try to stay fit but also use rest as an integral part of health. You will find there is a fine line between doing just enough in exercise, and doing too much. You can find that line by recording your recovery times and heartrates during workouts day by day, and if your heartrates do not recover as fast as normal, its time to back off the intensity/time/distance and maybe rest. Rest is necessary to repair micro tears in tissues, and make drinking more water every day a habit, it keeps the body hydrated and facilitates repairs. Massage and acupressure/puncture for muscle soreness and muscle knapes (knots) if you get them really helps in keeping a body healthy too, as does increased flexibility.
The are not a lot of elderly folks doing extreme sports, but if you find them they are a wealth of information. We all made mistakes learning our crafts, I was very fortunate to have an older mentor, she saved me from doing too much and making mistakes that would have stopped me from enjoying what I do now. And despite having two back surgeries, she still participates in endurance racing.Sep 23, 2013 at 1:55 pm #2027394
Art …BPL Member
I'm finding this thread a bit humerous.
if you want to seriously understand soreness and joint pain …
take up climbing for 25 years and ultra running for 10, then come back to this thread.
Regarding poles, I have serious reservations about using them to protect your knees or ankles. yes they may protect your lower joints but at what cost ? debilitation of elbows, wrists, shoulders ? I think the legs and their joints are far more capable, so unless you already have knee or ankle problems I'd think twice about poles simply for protection.Sep 23, 2013 at 2:37 pm #2027417
Mike WBPL Member
@skopeoLocale: British Columbia
I'd keep using the poles, they may help you avoid a serious injury that will be a problem as you age.
I think you are asking the right question but it's a balancing act for sure… pick your activities wisely and you may avoid pain in later years.
While I live in pain, I am still active. All of my current pain can be traced back to inuries that I had when I was younger. Unfortunately for me, I spent 40 years doing sports that are hard on joints and injuries are common. I've often asked myself whether I should have taken up sports that were easier on the body but the fact is that the activities I did when I was young were a large part of who I am today, so no, I wouldn't have changed much.
As a young person, I wouldn't miss out on the fun and excitement that (slightly) dangerous sports can provide. Injuries will happen. Enjoy yourself when you are young but try to take care of your body because the injuries WILL come back to haunt you.
Staying strong and fit when you leave your 20's is certainly a key part of this (it's easy when you are in your twenties). Keeping fit when you have work/family/life responsibilities becomes very difficult but if you can stay fit and strong as you age, you will have a better chance at remaining active, even with the injuries and pain.Sep 23, 2013 at 3:13 pm #2027427
Billy RaySpectator
@rosyfinchLocale: the mountains
Not to worry… by the time you're in your 60's they'll have bionic arms and legs to replace your worn parts… :)
Bill D.Sep 23, 2013 at 3:40 pm #2027435
Larry De La BriandaisBPL Member
@hitechLocale: SF Bay Area
I'm over 50 and don't have much for joint pain. My right knee "pops" a lot (from a motorcycle accident when I was 20 something) and can become uncomfortable if I don't "pop" it. But walking or otherwise using the knee makes it feel better not worse. My ankles need the "support" of a boot (or some sort of compression on the ankle), but give me no problem with that support. Walking down the mist trail in Yosemite doesn't bother my knees at all. I have abused my body while outdoors, but have flown a desk my whole life.
My Dad wore out his hips and knees working to support us. It is one of my concerns.
I don't use trekking poles. They seem "silly" to me and I can't tell any difference in using them vrs. not, except that I have to work my arms and have something extra to carry.
I plan to do what I like, the way I like to do it. If that starts to become a problem I will do whatever is necessary to fix it. Even if that means using trekking poles, but I'm not convinced that will make any difference. But, I don't have any problems and those that do seem to like them.
No advice, just sharing my experience .Sep 23, 2013 at 4:25 pm #2027449
Billy RaySpectator
@rosyfinchLocale: the mountains
Here are a few things that I think may help, though genetics maybe the most important factor:
Regular Strength/flexibility training… (not just pumping iron… moderate strength/high flexibility)I'm thinking of your back and lower joints here… young guys like to build big biceps and shoulders… I'm thinking of the lower body here and not big muscles… strong, but flexible…
Stretching… gentle… regular.. range of motion stuff here
Glucosamine/Chondroitin supplements if any indication of cartilage problems
Work your way up to strenuous trips… start with some short trips to get your body ready for the pounding before harder, long trips
Listen to your body (not some idea in your head or your peers regarding how many miles a day you should do)
Take rest/recovery days… every other day training allows your muscles and joints to recover.
Be smart, use common sense… like, don't jump off things with a full pack… dumb! hard on your back and every join in your body… don't run down trails with a full pack… etc… etc…
If you get a joint injury, take the time to rehab it and slowly get it strong again.
To summarize,
Listen to your body, stay strong, use common sense… take time for recovery…
Bill D…Oct 14, 2013 at 7:33 pm #2034164
Nick GatelBPL Member
@ngatelLocale: Southern California
I have been hiking and running since the 60's. I don't use poles. Don't have injuries. Trick is to hike/run often. Don't over do the running. Never get overweight and you will be fine.Oct 14, 2013 at 7:49 pm #2034170
Kimberly WersalBPL Member
@kwersalLocale: Western Colorado
+1 to Nick
I am about to turn 55 and have been running since the early 70's. Maybe it's "luck", good genetics, whatever? But I don't have the slightest knee pain and never have (despite arthritis on my mother's side…) I have NO interest in trekking poles– I can't be bothered to have my hands tied up carrying poles–I like them swinging free. I feel like my nature gait works fine unencumbered by poles–I also wear minimalist shoes– I spent many years going barefoot as much as possible, so the emergence of the "barefoot" style shoe suits me.
Keep your weight down, eat quality, unprocessed foods, and keep active. Use it or lose it..Oct 18, 2013 at 10:24 pm #2035476
Delmar O'DonnellMember
@bolsterLocale: Between Jacinto & Gorgonio
Interesting thread, where you ask us old farts to speak up. You'll find we can't shut up! "Reminds me of when we used to tie an onion to our belts, which was the style at the time…" (–Grandpa Simpson).
Anyhoo, back to the question. I would say THE NUMBER ONE thing that's kept me in the game is:
Physical Therapy.
I've had famous orthopedic surgeons look at my knee injuries, shrug shoulders, and offer me pills, which do nothing long term. I go to the PT instead, he or she gives me exercises and stretches, and the problems go into remission and sometimes just go AWAY.
For anyone who's seen an MD for a joint problem and is still living with it, please, you owe it to yourself to see a physical therapist, who has an entirely different toolbox. (No, I'm not a PT myself. Just a happy customer.)Oct 19, 2013 at 3:41 am #2035492
I dated a Kim with debilitating joint issues…
Nice to see some "evidence" that barefoot shoes are a good path forwards, as I am slowly beginning to wear mine 100% of the time. I am now hiking less than 6 miles at a time in them.Oct 19, 2013 at 5:04 am #2035494
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Once you are past late 20s you are in a state of decline.
Get used to it.
Things hurt more.
Even sitting still or laying in one position for a long time hurts.
We are pre-programmed to die. Slowly, one day at a time.Oct 21, 2013 at 11:31 am #2036039
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The wood brace doesn't look as if it is treated lumber any outdoor outlet is subject to weather. Therefore, Code 314.23(B)(2) is being violated. Plus, the clamp connected to the wood isn't protected against corrosion and deterioration as prescribed in article 300.6.
You're on utility ground in the photo and utilities follow the NESC, not the NEC.
The poles are the customer's lighting poles for a mini-golf and driving range! This is covered by the NEC
The clamp is not listed for the environmental condition(sunlight most probably) and the rapid oxidation and disintegration is progressing to the point that the clamp no longer provides the required performance.
That looks like an old asbestos clamp. I was made with a blend of plastic and asbestos. Over time it would dry out and start to crack, break and become brittle. I do not see any code violation here. It would only become a code violation is a company did some work on the pole and did not update the strapping.

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Ok...does anyone know how to or if you need tickets to go see this competion. This might be the only live competition I can get to for this year.
Ok...does anyone know how to or if you need tickets to go see this competion. This might be the only live competition I can get to for this year.
I don't think so..............
I just checked their website libertyskating.org and it does not say anything........
Anyways, have fun checking out all of the great talent in our country!!!
Edit: This is kind of random but on your signature it says diving my zamboni... should it be driving?..............
Yikes...I mean driving...I will change that right now.
It is free to go....you don't need tickets. It's only about 40 minutes from my house...I might have to check it out. Ryan Bradley and Rachel Flatt will be competing there
Yay! Summer competitions are now officially underway. I was getting a bit tired of the perennial summer threads (i.e. Mao vs. Yu-na).
I think Patrick Chan will be also competing. Does anyone know where I can find the competitions results?
You can find the results here:
McLaughlin/Brubaker only skated their short to 'Malaguena' with an original music cut. The choreography was very nice, but they didn't skate very well.Yankowskas/Coughlin kept their SP, they didn't skate very well. TROMBLEY & IBARRA were good.
Alexe Gilles skated well in long program, I like the choreography of both her sp and lp.
Ryan Bradley and Jeremy Abbott had very interesting programs, but none of the top men jumped well.
A few Jr. pairs to be dispatched to JGP also showed up as well. The novice champion was impressive.
I have to say that both Abbot and Bradley picked great music for their respective styles. I am also glad that they went for the quads.
and so go the Summer winds. It will all be different in LA with a hint of Spring.
Sillylionlove-I hope you'll come back and post some reviews of the competition! I've always wanted to go to Liberty but it never falls at a good time of the year for me. Have a great time!
In her senior debut at Broadmoor Open this past weekend, Alexe Gilles landed one of each triple, 5 total out of 6 planned, in her Senior FS (z=lutz, r=loop):
3f-2t, 3z fall, 2a, 3r, 3z-2t, 3t, 3s-2t-2r. She had fun bongo music with different Latin beats (choreographed by Catarina Lindgren Dickson), wore a bright yellow dress and sported a long ponytail. Her unofficial score (as flashed on the arena's Jumbotron) was 105.06.
Becky Bereswill (2nd place) wore blue and skated to "Nessun Dorma." Her jumps were: 2a, 3z-3r (good attempt, but I later heard both jumps were downgraded), 2s, 3f (turnout on 1 ft), 3r (flip out), 2a-3t (on the crescendo of the music), walley to 3z. She scored 93.50 (unofficial).
ETA info about 2008 Liberty: Both Gilles and Bereswill competed at Liberty last year and Gilles is scheduled to return this year (along with her fellow club members Abbott, Bradley, Flatt, Mroz, etc.). A list of registered skaters is usually not available online before the start of the competition.
Liberty (July 15-19, Aston, PA) is free. It's metal bleacher seating so I recommend bringing something soft to sit on. Link to the event schedule: http://www.libertyskating.org/LibertyNews.html#schedule
Some of the deepest and most competitive events are the Junior and Novice ones. I'll post more later.
Last edited by Sylvia; 07-02-2008 at 03:04 PM.
There doesn't seem to be threads for the Summer Comps. Maybe this should go into the Comps Folder.
Anyway does anyone have any results and reviews of the Broadmore, Detroit, and the Liberty (once it takes place)?
It's kind of interesting to hear about the music being used as well as the overall performance. It's early in the season so results should not be taken seriously but scores may show something.
Joe, see posts #5 and #10 above re. last week's Broadmoor Open.
Some of the major club (non-qualifying) comps coming up in the U.S. are:
Liberty Summer Competition, July 15-19, Aston, PA
Skate Detroit, July 23-26, Bloomfield Hills, MI
Lake Placid Dance Championships, July 30-Aug. 2, Lake Placid, NY
Indy Pairs Challenge, Aug. 7-10, Indianapolis, IN
ETA: Thanks to the GS mod. for splitting off all the posts relating to Alissa Czisny at the Grand Rapids Open and creating a separate thread at http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22464
as well as merging the "Summer Competitions" thread into this one and retitling it.
Last edited by Sylvia; 07-04-2008 at 05:38 PM. Reason: to thank the mod. for spliiting/merging this thread
Minto Summer Skate: July 31 - August 4th, Ottawa, Ontario
- This is a farily good competition. You can see the up and comers who will be at the nationals a few years down the road.
Wild Rose Invitational: August 1 - 4, Edmonton, Alberta
BC SummerSkate: August 1 - 4, Burnaby, British Columbia
Summer Sizzle: August 8 - 10, Kitchener, Ontario
Thornhill Summer Skate: August 14 - 17th, Thornhill, Ontario
- Men's, pairs' are great, but ladies are meh!
Quebec Summer Championships: August 15th to 17th, Pierrefonds, Quebec
- Chances are it will be the first competition for Rochette, Phaneuf and Samson. And also, we get to see a lot of new junior pairs teams making their debut.
Chicago Open: Aug 1-3 (Skokie, IL)
DuPage Open: Aug 15-17 (Buffalo Grove, IL) USUALLY ATTRACTS THE BEST IN UPPER GREAT LAKES
Greater Chicagoland Fall Invitational: Sept 5-7 (Northbrook, IL) ALSO USUALLY ATTRACTS THE BEST IN UPPER GREAT LAKES
Milwaukee Open: July 11-13 (Milwaukee, WI)
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Yeah against 2 teams that are a combined 2-6.
Re-watching the game the worst culprit of the game might be booth. On one sequence the giants run on first down the line makes a big hole on the right side and bradshaw runs for 8. on the next play 77 booth has a defender right infront of him, when the ball is snapped he turns left and the defender runs right by him bradshaw gets hit three yards behind the line of scrimmage. I have seen three instances of this already, amazing he is so confused by who he things he is supposed to block he turns, and then someone runs right up the spot he left.
Again.....we are talking two runningbacks, playing behind the same offensive line, against the same team, on the same day...... I can't think of better control conditions than that if you want to compare two runningbacks.
2011: "It's not Bradshaw's fault.....nobody can run behind that crappy line."
2012: "It's still not Bradshaw's fault....even though Andre Brown looks great behind the same line."
Bradshaw is clearly off his peak from 2010. It happens pretty quickly with running backs. Bradhshaw was once so explosive that it didnt' matter that he was an impatient runner. Now, it's just glaring.
I know its all supposed to be a one game at a time mentality, but looking past the Browns you have the 49ers, Redskins, Dallas, Steelers, etc. coming up. A bunch of pass rushing defenses that will give the O-line a heap o' hell if they don't gel quickly.
Hopefully the Giants having their backs against a wall will force them to get better or Eli might not make it through the year...especially the 49ers' game.
You have no idea what your talking about you need to just stop giving your opinion. Go to NFL Replay and look how Beatty played one of the best lineman in the NFL. Then tell what you think of Beatty. Read what Dan Grasiano said about Beatty after he replayed the Game. His headline was Will Beatty handled Trent Cole. Read the article then maybe you won't put these dumb comment on this site.
THE Professional Football Focus stated that Beatty TOOK HIS JOB FROM LOCKLEAR. TOOK TOOK TOOK TOOK. LOCKLEAR IS GOOD BUT HIS A RIGHT TACKLE HE DOES NOT HAVE THE FEET THAT BEATTY HAS. BUT WHEN DIEHL COMES BACK WATCH WHO THEY SIT ON THE BENCH. THEN YOU MIGHT LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT THE OLINE. ONE MORE POINT BEATTY HAS PLAYED THREE GAME NO SACKS.


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"Parry's skillful hand and gentle heart are the perfect blend to capture the joys and heartaches of farming in the beautiful Berkshire Mountains."—Linda Cortright, publisher of Wild Fibers magazine
"In my very first years of sheep farming—and the resulting shearing, spinning, and knitting that goes along with it—I found myself turning each page slowly, not wanting the education and camaraderie to end. But no matter where you find yourself on the spectrum—farmer, spinner, dyer, knitter, or weaver—you are sure to find inspiration, laughter, and joy in the farm tales that Barbara shares."—Amanda Soule, author of The Rhythm of Family
Solstice Hat
A wool cap is a comforting essential, even on mild winter days. Christa's design for a simple winter cap plays with color and texture. The shaping for the cap, which tapers toward the back of the head, makes it wearable beneath a hood or fit comfortably when bundled in a high-collared parka. Cormo wool makes this hat clingy without being hair flattening. The luster of silk defines the stitches.
Lavender Pillows
Near the end of June, harvested buds of fragrant French lavender, valued for its intense essential oils, can be used to create lavender pillows to set in bureau drawers and blanket chests. Place on square in each corner of the drawer of chest where you are storing woolens.


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I am very impressed with Dadant's customer service and understanding.
Last July I ordered the plastic extractor. I then heard that the gears were a problem, so I called to change the order too a better extractor. They sent the new extractor, and a bill for the remaining unpaid amount. The handle had been broken durring shipping due to the way the packing was done. Dadant shipped me a new handle very quickly.
As for the unpaid amount, my wife was pregnant at the time. Not long after recieving the new handle, she started having complications that ended up with her in the hospital for a long time, and our son died shortly after birth in October. We also lost three months of her income durring that time. I did recieve the occassional bill from Dadant to remind me that the balance was unpaid, but they did not harrass me. After my son's funeral I finally got the time to call Dadant and inform them of the situation, and they were very patient and understanding. When I was finally able to pay the bill in December, Dadant dropped all the late fees.
Because of this, there is just no way that I can praise their customer service enough. I think that sometimes we can forget that the relationship between buyer and seller is a two way street, and we forget as buyers can be blind to the fact that we have to be fair to the seller as well. I this case I made the effort to contact Dadant and let them know that I had not forgotten them. In return Dadant went beyond a mear business relationship and showed human compassion.
My plans are to eventually manage more than 1000 hives. I still buy some things from BetterBee, but Dadant will probably get the majority of my business.


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[quote user="Sarcasman"][quote user="buffyblue"][quote user="Bread"][quote user="SweetZombieJesus"][quote user="NYgiants141"][quote user="SweetZombieJesus"]A long time ago I did a thread on what hadn't been invented yet, how much a new car cost, etc, but it's been 2-3 years it's long gone.
PLEASE FIND/REDO IT! would be greatly appreciated!
I can't find it on our MB but here's its sister on the Eagles mb:
And I apologize to Bread in advance, he's a cool guy and does not deserve what I did over there...
You're a Giants fan and a division rival so you talking smack is acceptable.
However, random Texans fans who have the same amount of rings as we do and has many less championships from a city vs city perspective is not.
This guy is on the EMB as well. Flamethrower, are you a Cowboys fan in disguise?[/quote]
Flamethrower is an idiot that is too stupid to disguise anything.[/quote]
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As I already have my thread well-established, I'm starting a new one just for my daughter's armor. She wants mostly purple and pink, then decided to add chartreuse accents. Helmet: mostly purple with pink "ears" and "eyes", lime green (chartreuse) cheeks. Armor: purple chest, neck and shins; pink shoulders, chartreuse knees and boot armor. Pink cape, black undersuit.
We also worked on her Mando name. As she likes mermaids, Star Wars, stars, water/swimming, we put together "starfish",
Ka'ragi, (KAY rah gee *hard g*) and Tarvos as that's my character's last name.
Thanks to a ninja Halloween costume I bought last year for a quarter, I already have her black undersuit:
I'm going to cut off all the foam pieces (chest attached at shoulders, gaunts, and shins. They are only attached at a couple places, so removing them should be no problem. When done, I'll be left with a full-body black cover-all to get started for her costume. AND, the belt/flap in front might just work for an Ahsoka costume if I can ever make one.


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During this phase, 26 companies could elect to do either a Business or a Service Project. Service Companies were funded subsidies from Business Companies; high profit levels were not primary objectives. There was no income tax; businesses donated profits to charities in addition to the "subsidy fund." Average Business Company revenue during this period was about $700.00, with average profit of about $300.
During this period, each MGMT 101 company was required to be profit-oriented, with particular emphasis on Business projects. All income had to go either to fund a community Service Project or a charitable donation. Most companies did both, and began to compete for profitability. All companies were assessed a 10% income tax, which funded rapid progress in acquiring computer software and other support (e.g. a training semester for TAs). During this period, the average net income rose to above $600.00, on average revenues of about $1400.
These companies ran Business projects and participated in community Service projects; most companies also contributed funds or equipment to their community service clients. Competition was both for profitability and for significant community service, and company members experienced increasingly burdensome out-of-class time demands. Average business project revenues in this period were more than $3000; many companies found themselves squeezed as middlemen between suppliers of more expensive goods and a customer base of hall mates and fraternity brothers who resisted higher average sales prices. Questions of community welfare and social responsibility became increasingly salient.
All companies ran both community service projects and business projects and contributed funds or equipment to their service clients. Following a series of financial setbacks in pre-'92 companies, these companies were strongly advised to set less ambitious, more realistic revenue and time commitment goals. Although some companies negotiated emphases on one (complex, innovative, challenging) project at the willing sacrifice of attention to the other (adopting a straight-forward version of a previously successful, undemanding model), competition was focused on significant community service, with business profits seen as a means to a service end. Companies measured success primarily in terms of Effectiveness in the eyes of the key stakeholders -- Service Client and Business Customer -- satisfaction. Companies generally managed to enhance levels of community service contributions, in large part by developing significant sources of support for service clients from regional firms and service organizations.
All companies continue to give balanced attention to Service and Business projects. With rapidly developing support from information technologies, companies compete increasingly through the quality and complexity of reports -- Operating Plans, Websites, Company Summaries, Archives, and, in particular, Final Oral Presentations. Companies overcome disappointments in Business or Service performance through committed integration in Final Reports. (They also struggle with boundaries between "entertainment/production value" on the one hand, and "information value" on the other.) At the same time, assignment guidelines focus with increasingly clarity and effectiveness on storytelling methods as bridges between practice and theory, supporting experiential learning.
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text: Infertility is a very critical condition and if any such thing happens to a woman it is really the most painful thing ever happened. In lay man term it can be said that it is the situation when the woman is not able to get pregnant. Though there might be several reasons for that but still the pain is never ending. There are basically two types of infertility that is found in woman. One is the primary infertility in which you can never conceive a baby while the other is the secondary in which you face some problems in conceiving but you can conceive if proper care is taken.


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In response to "Politically expedient job description" letter to the editor (October 2010, page 16):
While I agree there is the need for professional licensing for technical positions, I don't agree that the department head or administrator needs to be a technician. If anything, the department head needs much broader experience than a technician to ensure projects proceed.
These projects should be a team approach with each individual responsible for their portion but also responsible for the total outcome. While the ultimate authority is on the team leader, the department head, or political appointee, the selection process for that individual should be on qualifications as a whole — not on whether they passed a test and got a license.
The administrator deals with staff, other consultants, community leaders, politicians, other regulatory agencies, etc. It should not be the administrator's responsibility to approve a technical design prepared and approved by a registered engineer. Nor should the technical engineer have to shepherd his or her design through the approval process. This should be done by the team. I am not saying that administrators cannot be engineers, but I am saying they don't have to be.
— Donald K. Cannon, director of public works, Lower Merion Township, Pa.; past president and current board member, American Public Works Association Southeastern Pennsylvania Chapter
In response to "How's your kung fu" Ideas & Opinions column (November 2010, page 23):
I enjoyed and appreciated Shawn Lindsey's article on battling tough times with strong philosophy and decision-making. Along with some great quotes and thoughts from kung fu and aikido masters, you touch on some excellent tips that did get me thinking … mission accomplished!
— Jim Patterson, city manager, City of Sherwood, Ore.
In response to "Get ready to work with the railroad" editorial (November 2010, page 7):
Thank you for mentioning me in your editorial! I have spent almost 40 years working around and for railroads, and have more than a working understanding about what makes them tick. Over the last five years, I have served as the project manager for Olathe, Kan., (a suburb of Kansas City) to construct almost $100 million in four separate projects involving railroads in our town.
Public works agencies need to approach these projects recognizing that the railroads have already met all federal requirements to operate in those locations, and any additional costs must be at the expense of the public agency. It will be difficult, expensive, and lengthy, but if you are willing to accept those ground rules you can accomplish a lot.
— Phil Estes, PE, president, Estes Consulting Inc., Olathe, Kan.
In response to "10 reasons you should be receiving fan mail" editorial (December 2010, page 7):
I got a kick out of your article! I wish that just once someone would say: "Kudos to you. Thanks for looking out for us." But you're right — we're looked at only when things go wrong.
In my small city, we take pride in providing great service with the county's smallest tax base. I'm lucky that we can rely on the Southwest Florida Water Management District for cooperative funding to do projects; therefore we have no utility tax and we haven't raised taxes in 11 years.
After finishing an $800,000 complete road reconstruction project, a resident let us know that she was unhappy with the placement of her irrigation heads, because it got the post of her mailbox wet. She was also unhappy that we had increased the value of her home, which will cause her taxes to increase. Sometimes it seems we just can't win.
I would just like to say to all those in similar positions, thanks. I've been doing this for 25 years and I know what you're up against. Keep up the good work.
— Robert David, director of public works, City of Belleair Bluffs, Fla.
In response to "Clearing reuse hurdles" (December 2010, page 40):
I'm concerned about the notion that striving to provide all the water that customers want, by whatever means and indefinitely, is somehow a sustainable proposition. It is not.
The water industry needs to change its thinking, first to conserve source water quantity and quality, and second to manage — i.e., reduce — customer demand. The first part entails improving production efficiency and reducing distribution system losses. The second part involves implementing ascending or so-called conservation rate structures, testing and replacing meters, installing AMR/AMI, and committing to a program to inform, persuade, and incentivize customers.
We must recognize that unrestrained and unrestricted demand could out-strip even those supplies augmented by reuse capacity. Once this fact is realized, it becomes plain that sustainability will be achieved not by persuading rate payers to support capital-intensive infrastructure projects, but by reforming the industry business model to obtain sufficient operating revenues through provision of the lesser volumes of water customers actually ally need. To be sure, reuse has its applications. However, expanded reuse merely kicks further down the road the issues of water-wasting practices and quality degradation by micropollutants.
— Dennis Wanless, owner, D.R. Wanless & Associates LLC
In response to "Round 2 in Illinois' battle over semantics" e-newsletter editorial (December 15, 2010):
Folks in Virginia use regional screening levels (used to be Region III risk-based concentrations) to, get this, determine if the soil is clean enough to put in a landfill! The dirtier the soil, the less likely one can get rid of it.
Although some landfills can accept contaminated soil, state regulations prohibit disposal of contaminated soil in a sanitary landfill. At least Illinois allows the disposal of contaminated soil.
Not sure how the engineer (or geologist) can be held responsible for certifying the soil or the life of the soil in the landfill. Do we make lawyers responsible for freed criminals that commit another crime, or doctors responsible if the cancer returns?
— Jim Bernard, senior geologist/marketing magager — Virginia operations, Environmental Alliance Inc.
This is scary. For ever sanitary sewer spot repair where the original sewer pipe is replaced we may generate 1 to 2 cubic yards of excess soil. That soil may have some sewage in it. I'm not positive, but I think sewage itself is considered a hazardous waste. Disposing of backfill as hazardous waste would make spot repairs extremely expensive. We do these repairs so folks don't get sewage in their basements or to prevent sewage from going into streams. Furthermore, I don't see how excess sanitary backfill is any more of a hazard than, say, an on-lot septic system.
We need to watch this carefully.
— Mike Smith, PE, environmental engineer, Municipality of Bethel Park, Pa.
Your writing seems to be based more on your political persuasion than on fact and analytical reasoning.
Although engineers, like us land surveyors, suffer possible lawsuit, loss of license, and/or fines for our professional mistakes or omissions, and have unfair extended liability, we do not risk a jail sentence — unless we commit fraud.
Also, to discount the scientific views of others as mere semantics, without in-depth research and investigation, is unprofessional and the kind of politics masked as science and fact that occurs on "so-called" Fox News.
— Ken Holmbeck, P.L.S., Sherburne County surveyor, Government Center, Elk River, Minn.


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Mishin isn't the only good jumping coach in Russia. The coach Artur Dmitriev went to could hardly be considered a bad jumping coach herself, seeing as that she developed Denis Ten as a kid, and Denis was known for having very good jumping technique. At the very least, Artur could just train the jumps he always did. That from what I understand is how Yagudin had it, he reportedly kept up all the exercises Mishin taught him etc. Its not like he allowed Tarasova to overhaul his jumping technique. :lol: Good jumps are important but really so is good choregraphy. I especially worry in this regard about young Elizaveta. She is a great young talent and it would be just a crying shame if she gets packaged more and more poorly.Well Gachinksi has learned to do the difficult jumps and maybe he would continue to do them well if he left MIshin for a coach who could do better programs as a whole but maybe he wouldn't be so good with the jumps. I really meant that if not for Mishin who says Gachinski could do 3a's and quads? Not all skaters can switch coaches and keep all their jumps. Better to have jumps than good choreo. You want both of course. Yagudin left and went to Tarasova -but he had mich greater success at that point. I know Dmitriev Jr left recently and his work with his new coaches will be shown next sason.
That said, yes - Amodio is a more natural entertaining and more demonstrative than Chan. Neither of those translate to more artistic however.
Mishin never worked with Lambiel apart of some summer camps, where he basically fixed his quad, and you saw the results. In sickness and health Lambiel has it. When he was asked to train him fulltime Mishin was waiting Plush comeback and said no. You can say many things, but Mishin has studied the biomechanics of jumps like none, his books are used in russian universities and are translated in many languages.
He has made 3 Olympic Champions from scratch instead of taking accomplished skaters he invests on his skaters from young age and that is why he hasnt worked with ladies, he has explained it in many interviews that he cant have many skaters on a top level and he prefers not to train ladies. Yagudin didnt train his teqnique with Tarasova. If you see Plush and Yag jump side by side , they have the same set up, rotation and landing style. SO does Arthur.
The unrfortunate for Arthur is that he is blonde and trains with Mishin, if he was trained with Tarasova everybody would talk about a new clumpsy skater with future, now he is with Mishin everybody rush to mention the poor packaging, when he is only 17.. Menshov who is not trained by Mishin has more similarities to Plush skating style than Arthur.
I dont like the programs of Arthur at all. But his Narcissus program was amazing and highlighted his strengths if anyone bothered to see it in juniors.
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Amodio has not accomplished such a feat yet, the enthusiasm for his brand of musicality notwithstanding. I am not saying he's not a good skater but as of now he's not in the league of Chan and several others. Adoration for Amodio or any othe skater should not dismiss the fact that top skaters like Chan and Takahashi are highly respected and much loved in their own countries and more, deservedly.(Re: Patrick Chan's skate leaves spectators speechless) I was incredibly fortunate to have witnessed this performance live last night. It was like nothing I have ever seen in skating. The whole crowd was on their feet well before he was even finished.
Patrick was magic! I was embarrassed by the tears trickling down my face until I was in the ladies room afterward and realized that I was just one of many who had been crying. Well done Patrick you are truly a Canadian hero!
BTW, Patrick Chan is younger than Amodio, has progressed and is progressing much faster so lots of luck for Florent to pass him. This applies to many up and comers such as Adam Rippon as well.
I just noticed your post has been quoted and contested a couple of times before this already. Sorry, I'm not picking on you but yours is a good representation of similar opinions and a good segue for a response.
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you see , this is the point an interesting post so far would be not taken seriously and thrown to garbage..Then again, if he wish to do well with a panel that doesn't fall under the Russian sphere of influence, he will have to up his game and we know in Worlds and other non-European competitions, you better believe there will be several judges who will hammer him and give him a serious reality check.
Arthur has competed to GP this season, Euros and Juniors Gp plus Juniors Worlds the last two seasons, I bet all the panels were under the russian of sphere influence.. Brrr...
Do you mind also young skaters like Hendrix or Rayan or just Arthur because he is from Russia?
The issue of artistic vs demonstrative aside, would you really call Chan more artistic than Amodio? Because that's what the conversation was about. I could sort of see your point (if that's indeed the point you're making) if Chan was just as expressive as Amodio in his own, quieter and more nuanced way. But is he? Admittedly, I don't follow his career as closely as most of the Canadian posters here do, but so far I haven't been given cause to think so.
What you seem to take personal offence to is the statement that there's something lowly Amodio is good at that Chan doesn't have. Please realise that Chan cannot be the best at everything, that the two of them are different people, and that you're trying to "prove" Chan's superiority at something he just doesn't do. He's different from Amodio and affects the audience in different ways.
This is the sort of pointless defensiveness I'm talking about.BTW, Patrick Chan is younger than Amodio, has progressed and is progressing much faster so lots of luck for Florent to pass him. This applies to many up and comers such as Adam Rippon as well.
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No doubt this happened but judges and the letter can only support an opinion not a fact, I will write you the same letter and change the name of Chan with Stoijko/ Plushenko/ Yagudin/ Lysacek or Daisuke and according to my letter and the judges marks it would be also true. Can you tell me then they are less artistic than Chan?I'm glad my preposterousness is supported by judges and those who actually watch him perform. Patrick doesn't need to dream about relating to the audience like Florent. Someone who was there wrote:
(Re: Patrick Chan's skate leaves spectators speechless) I was incredibly fortunate to have witnessed this performance live last night. It was like nothing I have ever seen in skating. The whole crowd was on their feet well before he was even finished.
Patrick was magic! I was embarrassed by the tears trickling down my face until I was in the ladies room afterward and realized that I was just one of many who had been crying. Well done Patrick you are truly a Canadian hero!
I will never dismiss how you feel about your hero. Who am I to deny you're touched if you say you are? What I object to and argue against is definitive statement that an extremely accomplished and well loved skater is devoid of emotion and audience connection in his performance when facts demonstrate the opposite.
What Patrick has done does not preclude anybody else to relate to and move their audience. Nobody has an exclusive rights on that. Others have done it and some others will do it.
EEEEK?? I didnt deny Chan(isnt this a strong word?).Why do you need to deny this fact? It's not an opinion but a happening shared by thousands present and more via videos.
the debate was if Chan or Amodio are more artistic and I just told you that if you depend on audience and judges this can apply to many skaters, even the ones you dont think are artistic enough but someone else does.
yeap I agree, and thanx I will keep this for future reference.What I object to and argue against is definitive statement that an extremely accomplished and well loved skater is devoid of emotion and audience connection in his performance when facts demonstrate the opposite.
sometimes amodio can make you forget he is wearing skates- and that can be a major compliment to him. Because of the moves he is doing on ice on skates are hard for some to do when they are not on skates. LOL. It is like when Domnina and Shabalin won the compulsary dance at the olympics. That wasn't politics it was because they were so good and easy on their skates that it seemed like were doing a tango on a floor not ice.
I've been a fan of Browning for years and yes , that has always been something I disliked about his Casablanca program.
About Amodio...Last year was the first time I'd seen him and I was very excited about his emergence. His jumps were good ,he was expressive , musical .. a bit unpolished , but just dripping with potential. I didn't much like his programs . Well, the FP particularly sticks in my mind . I thought it was a bit juvenile , relied too much on his acting ability ,and I'm firmly against face paint, glued on moustaches and such in competition skating ( exhibitions are another matter ). I remember commenting to my sister ( my main watching buddy ) ..What a talent..imagine if he gets some better choreography next year !
I was upset when I heard he went to Morozov, because I don't like NM's coaching style generally , and although he can have some very nice choreographic flashes , I usually dislike his work. (For many reasons that I won't go into here ,not wanting to take the thread off on another tack.)
So while I heartily agree with blades as to Florent's talent and abilities , I feel these are being used in the cheapest , easiest way ( which makes me sad to see ).I'm afraid this could mean that we'll just see more of the same in future which will be boring for me and will stunt Florent's development.


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This quilt was fun and fast to make ! The flowers gave it loads of dimension.
Welcome to the Quilting Board!
This quilt was fun and fast to make ! The flowers gave it loads of dimension.
What fun ! what a treasure ! hope it gets loved !!
Sometimes you just have to sit in a chair and jog in order to get anywhere.
What a treasure - she is going to love it.
Dance like no one is watching
It's beautiful!!! She'll love that, forever!
By all means let's be open-minded, but not so open-minded that our brains drop out.
~Richard Dawkins
Looks really snuggly. I am sure she will love it.
That is really cute, she'll love it.
She will love it.
Clever idea!
How sweet! Is there a pattern for the flowers? They really add cuteness and dimension.
Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound, that saved a wretch like me. I once was lost but now am found, was blind, but now I see. [John Newton (1725-1807)]


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Final touch-up
Friends and relatives may be turning up any day now to eat mince pies and cast a critical eye over your garden, so give your beds a final, pre-Christmas weeding.
Keep hydrated
Water like mad and then spread a good load of mulch - it'll help to keep the moisture in the soil while you're busy over Christmas, and it'll make everything look smart.
A good scrub
Clean tiles and decks to get rid of moss and mould, and deal with rust marks and the like made by outdoor furniture.
Sow some veges
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About Me
- About The Walkin' Dude
- Real name
- Richard Hardwood
- Gender
- Female
- Occupation
- 8 hours of soul crushing labor
- Interests
- Things I like
- Aliens, chemtrails, 9/11, bigfoot you name it! Any insane crackpot theory will have my attention.
- Favorite MMOs
- I despise talking to people so willingly spending my free time with people in a game is a horrible thought.


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I had grand plans for elaborate Halloween decor this year, but in the end I chose one more simple project to tackle – a masked pumpkin. In fact I made a whole crew of them to decorate the whole house with.
They joined my other Halloween craft the Day of the Dead Wreath on my porch.
I also decorated with some of my favorite seasonal pieces including a pirate patch of our ceramic pig and the always popular, can't-be-Halloween-without-him, Devil Mini Nate.
Masked pumpkins also found a home next the center of our football-obsessed lives, the 52″ television (with Sleepy Hollow appropriately playing). Someone keeps moving them away from the screen, but I prefer them to just sit slightly in front of it.
My masked pumpkins were inspired by these cute felt-lined pumpkins I bought from Target. My favorite is the fat masked pumpkin so I made a similar mask for the Cinderella-shaped red pumpkin. The trio of felt-lined styrofoam pumpkins are now sitting on my office desk and bring me lots of joy every time I am in there.
In order to start the project, I needed a few more pumpkins so I invested in three new "foam" ones from my local fabric store. I really liked how these fake pumpkins are made to look like the heirloom varieties. I like my pumpkins to have some personality and buying these guys saves me from purchasing a couple real Cinderella pumpkins. I should note that these foam pumpkins are labeled "for inside use only" so I took the precaution of coated them with a clear sealer to make them a little more hardy.
Although super simple, this look is also ingenious because the masks are removable. This means November 1st, I can de-mask them and still have harvest/thanksgiving appropriate decorations up. Woo!
Okay back to the project… Masking the pumpkins is a very easy craft. You will need black felt pieces, a piece of white chalk, some sort of stretchy string (I used clear beading string) or elastic, scissors and possibly a sharpie.
First determine a size mask for each pumpkin. Then cut the felt into a rough rectangle. (Mine ranged from a third to a half of a felt piece.) Take the rectangle and fold it into half. Make sure the edges line up and sketch half the mask shape onto the felt. Mark the eye placement as well. I went with different mask shapes for each pumpkin so they all had their own look.
Cut out the mask shape and eye socket. Open the felt up and flip it so the unmarked side shows. Trim anywhere you need to make the mask even.
Then, take the stretchy string and measuring around each pumpkin to get the right length. Cut small holes in each side of the mask and then knot the string through them. Stretch the mask over the pumpkin and take a look to get the placement right. If you go with a light color string like I did, you may need to use a sharpie to black it out.
I am down with the simple black, but it would be fun to add different colors for a superhero look as well. The masks would also be cool molded or embellished.
Oh, and I did get two real pumpkins as well. They will live on the front porch until the 31st. I'll try to convince Nate to carve one, but there's a good chance I'll be doing them both with the cats help, of course.


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Central apartment with three bedrooms
מספר אנשים מקסימלי8
חדרי שינה3
גודל70 מטר רבוע
Floor No.
- אינטרנט/ אינטרנט אלחוטי
- חדר הניתן לנעילה
- מגבות
- מתאים גם למשפחות/ ילדים
- מטבח
- חניה זמינה
Accommodation summary
|Kmochova, 15000 Prague, צ׳כיה
|סוג נכס
|פרטי הזיהוי של מקום הלינה
|Acceptance rate
|Response time
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|Calendar updated
- 3 living- and bedrooms
- 1 large dining room with kitchenette
- 1 bathroom with shower
- 1 separate WC
- 1 corridor with wardrobe
- ideal for 6 to 8 persons
This 70 sq.m. apartment is ideal for families with children or groups of up to eight people.
- central location, only 15 walking minutes or 5 minutes by tram to Prague's Old Town
- free parking in front of the house and in all the neighboring streets
- free and unlimited internet access in the apartment (wireless)
- satellite TV/Radio (Astra+Hotbird) plus 3 additional radio with CD players
- fully equipped kitchenette with refrigerator, stove, coffee maker, kettle, toaster etc.
- complete equipment of cookware, cutlery, plates, cups, different glasses, bowls, salt, pepper, spices, etc.
- the breakfast can be prepared and ingested in the apartment (coffee and tea are available for free)
- good shopping and several inexpensive and local restaurants in the immediate vicinity
- daily till midnight open shop just 50 meters away
- largest shopping mall (supermarket open daily until midnight) in the city centre of Prague just 400 meters away
- bed linen, towels and dishtowels are placed (beds made up on arrival)
- additional amenities (hairdryer, iron etc.) available depending on the apartment or on request
- nonstop tram service (no overpriced taxis required)
- detailed journey description to the apartment
- english language support
כללי הביתFinal cleaning is included in the price. Nevertheless, we ask our guests to leave the apartment at departure is not excessively dirty, rinse used dishes and to dispose of the waste. If you have changed the furniture, make this prior to your departure please return back the way you found it at the beginning.
It must be followed with the usual rest periods.
|מחיר ליותר מ-6 אורחים
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|עזיבה לפני
|מדיניות ביטולים
Hat alles wunderbar geklappt!
Die Ausgangslage des Appartments war einfach Spitze und Bernhard war sehr gut vorbereitet und hat tolle Tipps gegeben.
Apartament w dobrym położeniu (blisko centrum). Bardzo dobry. Sam budynek może przedstawiać trochę do życzenia (wymaga remontu elewacji) ale apartament w bardzo dobrym stanie, kuchnia w pełni wyposażona. Polecam.
Das Appartement war super es hatte die ideale Größe es war alles vorhanden was man braucht. Die Lage war super und Bernhard war sehr hilfsbereit.
Wir werden auf jedenfall nächstes Jahr wieder kommen :)
חוות דעת על מקומות לינה אחרים שמציע/ה מארח/ת זה/זו
Bernhard has a simple but comfortable and clean apartment near the tram stop where you can reach easily and fast the center of prague. Mr Bernhard will give you many information about restaurants change office etc....when we arrived we had a little problem with shower s tent and,the folliwing day, mr Bernard repair it. Very efficent!!!!. A good experience and i suggest it strongly at anyone
Wonderful place to stay at! The flat itself is nicely done up, the flat has a lovely owner. The area is recommendable because of its human prices - pubs and restaurants aren't that expensive.
Thank you, Bernhard, for the opportunity of staying at your place and especially for the useful information about the local surroundings!
All the best and take care!
Bernhard was good host. There was no problem with contact. He gave ass all information that we needed. Flat was cosy, and fully equipped. We had 3 min to tram and about 7 to metro. Everything was OK :)!
I stayed at Bernhard's not for the first time, so I can compare.
There were some difficulties with the placement. Bernhard was out, so his helpers were responsible for it.
Zuzanne doesn't speak English at all, only Czech, so we had to wait for Thomas. He helped us to go upstairs with the luggage and gave us the keys.
He didn't even explain what can we lock and unlock by using these keys.
The next problem was in using the washing machine. That is mentioned in the description that you can use it for the small fee. But in fact you can't use it in this building. We were given this information only after 2 days staying.
The use of iron is by request, this also was told in w days.
All in all, the apartments are not bad.
The service became wòrse.
I suppose, Bernhard will not be offended, because when he met us in 2014 everything was perfect.
The best of the apartment is the area in which is located. You have everything nearby. Bernard was very kind to us. I think you should invest some money on improvements because you could get out fantastic.You need to change and reform the bathroom furniture. If this improvement is a highly recommended apartment.
The localization is great, near to everything by foot. The flat is comfortable. Bernhard is very nice and helpful man. He is a trustworthy host. Thank you Bernhard for everything.
- הבטחת איכות מקומות הלינה
- כל מארח מאושר טלפונית
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Family Fun Day to benefit military families Sunday at Cragun's
Cragun's Resort in East Gull Lake will present the fourth annual Family Fun Day on Sunday, May 26, and free golf for veterans on Sunday and Monday, May 26-27.
Keynote speaker will be Col. Lowell Kruse with additional speakers from the Minnesota Military Family Foundation, Wreaths for the Fallen and a Tribute to the Troops. There will be a color guard presentation by VFW Post 1647 and Joe Vene will be the vocalist for the national anthem.
These events will honor service members and their families with on-site military personnel from all branches of the service. Fun for the entire family starts at 11 a.m. Sunday and 100 percent of donations raised at the event will go to the Minnesota Military Family Assistance Center.
Family Fun Day activities will run from 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. and will include a Family Fun Parade, silent auction fundraiser, food and beverage booths, Humvee rides, a rock climbing wall, carnival games, balloon artists, face painters and live music by Tim Williams.
All activities are open to the public.
On Sunday, May 26, after 3 p.m. and Monday, May 27, all day, veterans will receive complimentary greens fees on all three Legacy golf courses. There will be a $10 charge per person for a GPS-equipped golf cart. Friends and family playing with veterans will receive a discounted golf rate with cart of $35 per person. Call 218-825-2789 for tee times.
Cragun's also invites non-golfers to fish for free on Cragun's docks using resort row boats, with or without motors. Pontoon rental is also available for $10 per hour.
There will be a casual gathering for families and friends of veterans at the Legacy Clubhouse from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. Sunday and Monday, with complimentary coffee, cookies and sweets.
This is the 11th year Cragun's has hosted its Veteran's Appreciation Golf Event on Memorial Day weekend.


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Chatham Rectangular Extending Dining Table, Dark Honey
- Overview
Dining alfresco is a quintessential summer pleasure, and our Chatham Collection makes it better than ever. This handsome dining table is built from FSC® mahogany, fine-grained hardwoods with exceptional strength and durability, making it ideal for outdoor use.
- Crafted of sustainably harvested mahogany that meets the standards of the Forest Stewardship Council (FSC®).
- Butterfly extensions increase the table's length, and store conveniently under the top.
- An opening at the center accommodates all of our outdoor umbrellas.
- Exposed hardware has an antique brass finish.
- A stainless steel fitting is included to cover the umbrella opening when not in use.
- Adjustable levelers add stability on uneven ground.
- Large Table: 40.25" wide x 74" long x 30" high; extends to 106" long
- XL Table: 39" wide x 95" long x 30" high; extends to 125" long
- Dimensions & Care
Large Table
- Overall: 40.25" wide x 74" long x 30" high
- Extended with 2 leaves: 40.25" wide x 106" long x 30" high
- Extension Leaf (2): 40.25" wide x 16" long x 1" thick
- Apron: 3" high
- Legs: 3" square, 29" high
- Umbrella Hole: 2.25" diameter
- Clearance under table: 26.5"
- Distance between legs: 63" (at sides), 30" (front to back)
- Weight: 110 pounds
XL Table
- Overall: 39" wide x 95" long x 30" high
- Extended with 2 leaves: 39" wide x 125" long x 30" high
- Extension Leaf (2): 39" wide x 15" long x 1" thick
- Apron: 3" high
- Umbrella Hole: 2.25" diameter
- Clearance under table: 26.5"
- Distance between legs: 81.75" (at sides), 29.75" (front to back)
- Weight: 128 pounds
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- Avoid the use of harsh cleaners and abrasives.
- To revive weathered furniture, sand and clean the wood to remove all debris and previous treatment. You may then apply any deck stain in the color of your choice. Note that two coats are required to achieve your desired color.
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The carnival will continue on the Civic Center grounds until 8 p.m. Sunday, May 12. (Rick Hickman / American Press)
Last Modified: Thursday, May 09, 2013 4:02 PM
Due to inclement weather, concerts for the Contraband Days Louisiana Pirate Festival will be moved inside the Lake Charles Civic Center.
Jo-el Sonnier will kick things off at 6 p.m. Friday followed by T-Graham Brown at 6:45 p.m., Charlie Worsham at 8:15 p.m. and the Kentucky Headhunters at 10 p.m.
On Saturday, Leah Thompson will be the first performer at 12:30 p.m. Ganey Arsement & the Lakeside Gamblers will perform at 1:30 p.m. and will be followed by Jackie Callier, Ivy Dugas & the Cajun Cousins at 3 p.m., Jamie Bergeron & Kickin Cajuns at 4:30 p.m., High Performance at 6 p.m., Damon Troy at 7:30 p.m. and Jo-el Sonnier at 9 p.m.
Admission is $5 per day and includes all the concerts. Parking is $2. For more information, please visit www.contrabanddays.com or call 337-436-5508.


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The BURRIS FastFire III Sight, 8 MOA Dot, Picatinny Mount (300236) is the most versatile red dot sight on the market. Its unlimited eye relief and parallax-free 1x magnification provide the advantage of aiming and shooting with both eyes open. Mounted on a pistol, shotgun or patrol rifle, it is the perfect CQB sight.
The new FastFire III is the latest generation of the popular sight and it is even better suited for tactical applications. The sight offers upgraded features such as top mounted battery making it easier to change batteries; upgraded windage and elevation adjustments, and a convenient power button that provides three manual brightness and an automatic brightness setting. They've also added a low battery warning indicator and see-through protective cap.
The FastFire III Sight is lightweight and fully waterproof. It is ruggedly designed, impervious to the elements and will hold up to years of punishing recoil. Fits all Weaver and Picatinny-style bases.
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Witness: Woman accused of leaving infant on train tracks said the antichrist was going to take her baby
PUEBLO, Colo. - Pueblo Police say a woman was arrested after dropping her baby on some train tracks and then trying to run away.
The incident happened in the area of 29th Street and Lowell Avenue at around 2:15 p.m. on Friday, February 14, 2014.
Eduardo Fontes said he was on his way home from band practice when he spotted a woman walking up to the tracks.
"She set it down on the tracks, actually on the rail. It was covered up so I thought maybe this was a doll, there's no way this could be a real baby," Fontes said.
The woman, later identified as Jessica Sloan, 31, ran away.
Butch Kiddinger says he saw Sloan hop into the back of his work van, trying to hide.
"I said, what are you doing?" Kiddinger said.
Kiddinger and another man were able to keep Sloan until Pueblo PD arrived.
Kiddinger says Sloan didn't show much emotion, but did say one thing.
"She said that the Antichrist was going to take her baby," Kiddinger said.
But Kiddinger says Sloan may have realized what she did was wrong after answering a question from the other unidentified good Samaritan keeping her at the scene.
"He says, you know that's not right and she says, I know," Kiddinger said.
Sloan was arrested for this incident and on outstanding warrants.
The baby girl appeared to be okay but was taken to the hospital to be checked out.


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Most folks are surprised at how "flat shooting" a standard 9mm is at those ranges (or even longer distances).
Cheap to shoot (assuming you can find ammo in today's politically-driven buying-frenzied market), and that means cheap to practice with, which of course builds the skill and confidence needed to make those kind of shots.
A good .357 would be my second choice, only because of the increased ammo cost and ferocious muzzle blast. The .357 cartridge would be more effective than a 9mm if you can place the shot, but due to minimal practice, most folks cannot shoot it very well. A longer-barreled, adjustable-sighted, stainless-steel S&W or Ruger .357 is a great outdoors/woodswalking/hunting handgun.


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Welcome to the Quilting Board!
that is sew pretty-Love it
Very pretty....perfect for a new baby!!!
There is no place like home!
Absolutely gorgeous!! So dainty and perfect for a little girl.
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Humor is the great thing, the saving thing. The minute it crops up, all our irritations and resentments slip away and a sunny spirit takes their place.
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What a beautiful, soft looking quilt! Love it!
Blessed Be
Love it the colors are prefect
Very pretty!
Very Pretty ...
It's a lovely baby quilt - lucky baby.
aww, that is so precious, I love the colors. So Sweet
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United Way offers thanks for SECC contributions
By Jennifer Storm
Assistant Director for External Affairs, Office of the President
(Feb. 20, 2008)--United Way Campaign 2007 Chairman Bruce Smith recently expressed thanks to UTSA President Ricardo Romo for UTSA's record participation in the State Employee Charitable Campaign (SECC). Many SECC donations benefit United Way agencies.
Today's headlines
- La Prensa Foundation is newest member of UTSA Lone Star Society
- UTSA alumna Jordan Kaufmann wins $50K for new stent-graft start-up
- UTSA begins new way-finding sign installation this summer at Main Campus
- USA Today: UTSA long jumper Tyler Williamson rescues three-year-old boy
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"UTSA is honored to be a part of the State Employee Charitable Campaign which, through United Way of San Antonio and Bexar County, allows us to help our friends and neighbors in need," said Romo. "Seventy percent of UTSA employees helped raise $224,000 for our 2007 campaign. We are happy to partner with and support Bruce Smith, who sends the following message to the UTSA community."
Dear Donor Friends:
During the 2007 United Way campaign, over 160,000 employees along with their companies and organizations contributed more than $42 million to United Way of San Antonio and Bexar County. I want to thank you for making it the largest recorded increase in United Way's history.
This year's milestone campaign would not have been possible without your generosity. In a growing community, your gift will support families in crisis and strengthen neighborhoods. Local contributions also will help feed seniors, provide shelter to battered women and children, and support the homeless. No other gift can touch so many people who need help like your one gift to United Way.
Beginning February 26, United Way is recognizing all companies and organizations that participated in this record-breaking campaign. Please visit the United Way Web site to view a salute to our caring community.
On behalf of the people you've helped but never met, thank you for believing in United Way and for doing what matters.
Bruce A. Smith
2007 United Way Campaign Chairman
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Lets Go Bucs!
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Freeman with another dang TO.

Where's Morehead ripping Josh on his TO's?

I know it's a long shot, but Come on Bucs....a 7 game losing streak?? Make this one count!!
That was not a td
[quote user="Giant14you"]That was not a td[/quote]

I agree. Looked like it should have been placed at the half-yard line.

how was that an fin touchdown???
he CLEARLY did not have control of the ball until he was out of the endzone...
how do the refs make these calls WITH THE BENEFIT OF REVIEW??
it really makes me question the motives of the top brass and how things are compartmentalized...no doubt whatsoever that was not a td
watch this game come down to 7 points like dallas wins by 4 or 3 or something
just like Jennings in GB, if the refs say it is...
Bucs need to get a 1st down here
[quote user="RobCarpenter"]Bucs need to get a 1st down here[/quote]
This game is already over. Another Bucs blowout.
Hold'em here!!!


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B&B Les trois Filles
Size35 m²
Floor No.
- Family/child friendly
- Internet/WiFi
- Parking available
- Breakfast
- Lockable room
- Towels
- Baby cot
- Pets allowed
Accommodation summary
|Onderstestraat, 6301 KB Valkenburg aan de Geul, Netherlands
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Staying in the very beautiful Geuldal on the edge of nature Ingendael. Can it get better? A fantastic place to escape the pressures of everyday life. Let us pamper you!
Les Trois Filles is named after our 3 daughters Luna, Lieke and Lotte. We live since 2007 in Houthem-St. Gerlach and have previously lived together 17 years in Amsterdam. Your hostess Daniëlla was born and raised in Limburg and your host Rene is from Amsterdam. We are very excited about our living and working environment and want to share with you.
Our Bed & Breakfast is situated in an unrivaled location. Less than 8 km from the center of Maastricht, less than 30 minutes by car from the center of Liège and Aachen. The center of tourist resort Valkenburg is 3 kilometers away. The station with direct connection to Maastricht, Heerlen and Aachen is a 5 minute walk.
Our guesthouse is situated on several cycling and (long) walking distance.
Across our Bed & Breakfast is the Gerlachuschurch. A very unique, baroque-style church building. This is very lush with frescoes verfraaid.In the restored monastery is the famous "Château St. Gerlach" established with its extensive parks and stylish baroque gardens.
Plenty to do for anyone who is looking for tranquility, relaxation / exercise, culture, shopping and gastronomic life and Burgundian
We have access to a double room. Directly linked to your bedroom is your own luxury bathroom with shower, sink and toilet. Upon request, an optional 3rd bed may be put down. Your accommodation has a private entrance and is accessible through our garden.
Your room is equipped with a luxurious bathroom and you can make free use of wireless internet. Breakfast is served in your room or on the terrace overlooking our lovely garden.
In the room at no extra charge may optionally be put down a cot for children under 3 years.
All our rates include a full breakfast, VAT and unlimited tea and coffee. Excluding tax.
We do not serve lunch or dinner. But on request we can provide a packed lunch for your needs at a cost of € 10.00 per person.
Lunch or dinner within walking distance:
Across the street is "Château St. Gerlach". There you can take advantage of lunch or dinner in the à la carte restaurant of the Château (upmarket) or at Bistrot de Liège. At less than 10 minutes walk there are many other eateries where we would like to inform. In our environment (or Maastricht Valkenburg) there is sufficient demand in the various price ranges.
There is ample free parking. You can park your bicycle indoor stables.
We wish you a warm welcome!
Rene, Daniëlla, Luna, Lieke and Lotte Schade
House rulesNon-Smoking
Tranquility is important
City Tax: €3.20
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Daniella thank you!
We were made very welcome, the room is very neat, overlooking a lovely garden, breakfast is great and gargantuan
I advise and we will not hesitate ay back to a forthcoming TEFA, for shopping of the very beautiful city of Maastricht or to explore the beautiful countryside and Castle VALKENBURG
merci Daniella !
Nous avons été très bien accueillis, la chambre est très soignées, et donne sur un joli jardin, le déjeuner est gargantuesque et excellent
je conseille et nous n'hésiterons pas a y revenir à l'occasion d'une prochaine TEFA , pour le shopping de la tres belle ville de MAASTRICH ou pour découvrir la belle campagne de VALKENBURG et son Château
We had a very nice weekend in B & B Three Girls. The room is ready tastefully decorated, the bathroom new, and by the private entrance you have enough privacy. Daniella is a warm hostess who always has responded helpful to our questions (even chauffeured us has in her car to the restaurant!), And has a delicious breakfast served at the requested time. The feel-good effect is reinforced by the small farm in the back of the garden, with goats, chickens (fresh eggs for breakfast!) And house and Glücksschwein Willy - a place where you can really feel at home!
Wir hatten ein sehr schönes Wochenende im B&B Three Girls. Das Zimmer ist wie abgebildet geschmackvoll eingerichtet, das Bad neu, und durch den eigenen Eingang hat man ausreichend Privatsphäre. Daniella ist eine herzliche Gastgeberin, die jederzeit hilfsbereit auf unsere Fragen reagiert hat (uns sogar in ihrem Wagen zum Restaurant chauffiert hat!), und ein leckeres Frühstück zur gewünschten Zeit serviert hat. Der Wohlfühleffekt wird noch verstärkt durch die kleine Farm im hinteren Teil des Gartens, mit Ziegen, Hühnern (frische Eier zum Frühstück!) und Haus- und Glückschwein Willy -- ein Ort, an dem man sich wirklich wohl fühlen kann!
A very nice room, with a very sweet family (and dog!). The room was stylish, without being over the top. The suroundings, and local landmarks, are unique. Not to mention, the warmth whether or hostess, and abundent Limburg breakfast served. We have an amazing time.
A nice room and a very nice family (and dog!). The room is stylish, without being too much. The environment and local attractions are unique. Not to mention the warmth of the owner and the extensive Limburg breakfast. We had a great time.
A very nice room, with a very sweet family (and dog!). The room is stylish, without being over the top. The suroundings, and local landmarks, are unique. Not to mention, the warmth of of hostess, and abundent Limburgse breakfast served. We have an amazing time.
Een fijne kamer en een erg aardige familie (en hond!). De kamer is stijlvol ingericht, zonder dat het te veel is. De omgeving en de lokale bezienswaardigheden, zijn uniek. Niet te vergeten de warmte van de eigenaresse en het uitgebreide Limburgse ontbijt. We hebben een geweldige tijd gehad.
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Awesome thing to share!
Maybe Rafal Fett will chime in. He's great with this kind of stuff.
Hmmm, i believe i can dig it good sir.
I used all the available images from the TDH Gallery (Supertrooper/Pre-Pro #1, ANH SE and the MoM/SWtE exibits images) to achieve the best proportions and sizes for the jetpack frame.
These actual jetpack harnesses are awesome! I wish I could afford one. I love the look of them.
Is there anybody out there in the prop making community making and supplying JetPack harnesses?
template thread ==> RafalFett's Misc Templates and Blueprints) when I'll complete all the measurements.
Awesome work. I was thinking of designing one also.
Thanks Chris.
If you're interested, i planned to post pics of my building later
Amazing work bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Man, I always thought they were bigger than that! That's great to hear they're so small. Time to make one.
I cant imagine the way that sitting up against your lower back will be comfortable. It looks very good and screen accurate. I have something similar. I mounted mine in one of my old military vests. where the loops are on the back, that's where the aluminum harness is and I mounted a bracket that "T's" out to hold the JP. My upper body supports the JP and not just my shoulders. Also to consider is that my JP is very heavy. Good job! Any body know who has the divers belt buckle? Mine is close but not perfect.
You can also keep an eye on ebay. I scored a real vintage US Divers buckle and weight belt for $20 last week.
Nice!!! I'll keep an eye out. Thanks.