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Poll: 51% approve of Obama's gay marriage "evolution" — but 23% now less likely to vote for him
posted at 4:54 pm on May 11, 2012 by Allahpundit
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Fascinating numbers which I think bear out one of my points in this post last night about why the states keep banning gay marriage when national polls show a majority in favor. When asked whether they approve of O's new stance on SSM, 51 percent say yes versus just 45 percent who say no. (Among independents, it's 53/44.) Good news for O, right? Not quite:
How can he have lost a net 13 points overall and a net 12 among indies in this metric when a majority say they support his position? Simple: There's an enthusiasm disparity between the two sides. The side that supports gay marriage is, I think, a coalition of two groups — the passionate gay-rights supporters who see it as an issue of equality and civil rights and then a whole swath of people who take a MYOB "I don't care what gays do" approach to the matter. The latter group may prefer O's new stance but they're not animated by this subject; they view SSM the way they do because of a basic libertarian live-and-let-live impulse, not some feeling that it's a grand cause. Opponents of gay marriage are more focused, I suspect: Whether religious or not, they think this is uncharted territory for society and worry about unintended consequences from mainstreaming "alternative lifestyles." If you believe that it could have significant consequences for the culture, then it stands to reason that your interest in this subject will be more than casual. So when O comes out in favor of SSM, three things happen: The ardent gay-rights supporters cheer and find themselves more likely to vote for him, the gay-marriage supporters boo and find themselves less likely, and the libertarian supporters shrug and say it makes no difference. That's how you get those imbalanced numbers.
For your viewing pleasure, via CNS, here's Pelosi explaining how her Catholic faith "compels" her to support gay marriage. Forgive the resident atheist a possibly stupid question, but isn't it the Pope and bishops who decide for the faithful what their faith compels them to believe? They seem … pretty clear on this subject.
Update: One further note on the Gallup poll. Although the independent numbers are worrisome for O, the 13-point tilt overall towards those who say they're now less likely to vote for him is being driven mostly by the overwhelming GOP response. Which is to say, just because people insist they're now less likely to vote for him, that doesn't mean they were on the fence in the first place. Per the Republican numbers, most of them weren't. It's the independents who are.
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Now social conservatives on the other hand are a HUGE bloc of voters… This will galvanize them and ensure they get their asses to the polls.
Doughboy on May 11, 2012 at 5:00 PM
Awesome! But more importantly, this election will be all about money. We expect most conservatives to at least make it to the polls and vote against O. But will they be galvanized enough to donate? $$$ are the key to victory.
People need to see this as a life or death important struggle, that though Romney be imperfect, we need to donate, often. Our job here is not so much to give money but to spread the word about how important it is to give money. Donate$.
anotherJoe on May 11, 2012 at 7:34 PM
Unless it's deemed unConstitutional. Now personally I can't see a single stitch of the Constitution that defines marriage as a "right." If that were the case, the government would have to start supplying us with spouses.
John the Libertarian on May 11, 2012 at 5:29 PM
From Loving v. Virginia, the unanimous Supreme Court decision striking down miscegenation laws: "Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival…."
urban elitist on May 11, 2012 at 7:48 PM
Another post on same-sex marriage. Yay.
Hey, here's a thought: if the polls consistently show majority support for same-sex marriage while elections continually show broad rejection of it, then the polls must be wrong. And if the polls are wrong, the only question left is "why are the polls wrong?" Not, "why doesn't it ever win elections?"
tom on May 11, 2012 at 7:54 PM
From Loving v. Virginia, the unanimous Supreme Court decision striking down miscegenation laws: "Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival…."
urban elitist on May 11, 2012 at 7:48 PM
Good to know ANYONE can get married.
CW on May 11, 2012 at 8:17 PM
From Loving v. Virginia, the unanimous Supreme Court decision striking down miscegenation laws: "Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival…."
urban elitist on May 11, 2012 at 7:48 PM
Now, the big question is what the Justices in that decision thought was the definition of marriage.
Here's the full quote, which indicates that the Justices might consider restriction of marriage on bases other than race.
Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival. To deny this fundamental freedom on so unsupportable a basis as the racial classifications embodied in these statutes, classifications so directly subversive of the principle of equality at the heart of the Fourteenth Amendment, is surely to deprive all the State's citizens of liberty without due process of law. The Fourteenth Amendment requires that the freedom of choice to marry not be restricted by invidious racial discriminations. Under our Constitution, the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person of another race resides with the individual and cannot be infringed by the State.
If your positing of said right is absolute, beyond race, then what is to stop two five year olds from marrying, or an adult marrying a prepubescent child, or (putting things in heterosexual terms) two men marrying the same woman, or two women marrying the same man, or five men as a group marrying five women as a group….
What restrictions should be put on marriage by the state? If we are going to go merely by adult consent, then polygamy seems just as reasonable an arrangement as a marriage between two men or two women….
unclesmrgol on May 11, 2012 at 8:21 PM
From Loving v. Virginia, the unanimous Supreme Court decision striking down miscegenation laws: "Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival…."
urban elitist on May 11, 2012 at 7:48 PM
I'm not sure how homosexual marriage contributes to "our very existence and survival". It would seem to be limited to to one generation. From this quote one can infer that the Supreme Court didn't have homosexual marriage in mind when considering the "basic civil rights of man".
Besides which, what about the basic civil rights of "womyn". Sexist to be sure.
Mason on May 11, 2012 at 8:27 PM
"Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival…."
urban elitist on May 11, 2012 at 7:48 PM
It's STILL not in the Constitution, and I'd like to see your pretzel logic in arguing that gay marriage contributes to our existence or survival.
John the Libertarian on May 11, 2012 at 8:29 PM
Part of the reason for the disparity between support for gay marriage and the actual support for Obama may well be a result of the intended 'redefinition' of terms related to marriage being planned by attorney working for gay rights groups in relation to the California case.
I've read that, due to legal terminology and contract law, these particular attorneys have been drafting new terms for 'husband' and 'wife' in the event that gay marriage is fully legalized. Since contract law, in so far as marriage is concerned, does not recognize two wives or two husbands in any given marriage, these attorneys wish to do away with the terms, husband and wife, altogether and replace them with 'partner of a marriage'. This is only one of the changes being proposed.
The fact is that being a husband or a wife is an honorable state. In my own opinion, there are many people who would object to being classed as merely a 'partner of a marriage' after having been either a husband or a wife for several years, in many cases, their entire adult lives. There may also be many people who would object to the new classification who have yet to marry, having anticipated being a husband or a wife.
If one look up 'husband' and 'wife' in the dictionary, one finds that these are specific terms with specific meanings. Honorable and responsible and, often cherished by those who enter into this particular social and civic contract. These terms have a very long history and consistency of meaning, cultural and societal, as well as civil. To see these terms abrogated in order to accommodate gays who wish to marry may seem to many as a step too far and constitute an erosion of the relationship intrinsic to, and vital to, a marriage.
Personally, I've always been a 'live and let live' type, however, both sides in this debate should be able to 'live and let live' at the end of the day. Perhaps civil unions, the state granting the rights of that particular contract to gay couples, should be the compromise upon which we settle, since the problems with the contract law, the realm of the state, seem to demand the changes that would essentially negate the traditional, respected and regarded, roles of husband and wife, along with their meaning. traditional marriage, with its traditional roles, must be preserved.
thatsafactjack on May 11, 2012 at 8:51 PM
the only question left is "why are the polls wrong?"
tom on May 11, 2012 at 7:54 PM
I believe it is something akin to the Bradley effect.
"In a 2010 paper, for instance, the New York University political scientist Patrick J. Egan compared polling in advance of state same-sex marriage referendums to the actual results, and found that the share of voters in pre-election surveys saying that they will vote to ban same-sex marriage is typically seven percentage points lower than the actual vote on election day.
That seven-point gap between appearances and reality may help explain why same-sex marriage supporters lost referendums they expected to win in liberal states like Maine and California. And it explains why a savvy White House might take polls suggesting that the issue is a political winner with a very large helping of salt."
Resist We Much on May 11, 2012 at 8:53 PM
"Put simply, the issue of gay marriage remains highly contentious in a number of swing states: a majority of voters in North Carolina, Ohio, Virginia, and Florida continue to be against same sex marriage.
The state-by-state data from polling conducted by Public Policy Polling show that a majority of voters in key swing-states like Virginia (53%-34%), Florida (53%-37%), North Carolina (61%-31%), Wisconsin (50%-30%) and Ohio (52%-32%) oppose the legalization of gay marriage.
And according to a recent Pew poll, one in three Southern swing voters are strongly opposed to gay marriage.
All of this in light of the fact that ballot measures to legalize gay marriage have been rejected by voters nearly every time over the course of fifteen years by voters in more than 30 states — often by large margins.
Among the 30 states that have constitutional amendments banning same-sex marriages are key battleground swing-states like Florida, Ohio, Virginia, Colorado, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and North Carolina. These states have a combined 114 electoral votes up for grabs.
In light of these numbers, while yesterday's move may be a political winner for President Obama among his progressive base, it may very well cost him the support of swing voters whose vote will be central to his success in winning reelection."
Resist We Much on May 11, 2012 at 8:54 PM
Marriage – a Primer
Q. Is marriage a religious institution?
A. Yes. The only thing required to be married is conformance with your sincerely held beliefs that have done what is necessary to be married and that you are married. In this case, your perception is your reality.
Q. Why is government involved in marriage, doesn't the first amendment prohibit it?
A. Government is not involved in marriage, but marriage licenses. A license governs the public interaction with something according to legal standards. Those licenses and standards are not relevant to purely private practices or beliefs, but protect the rights of others from interference by your public beliefs and practices. A license is not required for you to be married, it is only a tool to compel those in public or government to recognize such, as opposed to voluntarily doing so. For example, a driver's license has standards which you must meet to drive a vehicle on public roads. Failing to meet the standards of the driver's licensing exam has no impact on your ability to drive on private property, or your own right to believe in your own mind that you are an adequately safe driver. Your buddy might voluntarily agree you're a safe driver on the dirt track, but thankfully your insanity on the road may not be inflicted upon the rest of us until you meet the licensing standards of safety.
Q. Why did governments start licensing marriage?
A. Before the advent of DNA testing, governments needed a simple solution to settle matters of inheritance from males to their successors. In the absence of a will, a man's estate would be passed by default to the progeny produced within wedlock. Officially tracking wedlock helped prevent a lot of courtroom gridlock. Applying for a license is essentially signing a contract that you agree to be bound by the terms of that contract in terms of property rights, legal obligations to spouse and dependents, etc. Understanding exactly how many legal rights and freedoms are surrendered by licensing your marriage can help explain why many feel it justified to compensate such persons via tax policy or otherwise.
Q. That sounds old-fashioned, why is government still so invested in licensing marriage?
A. Many reasons. Some politicians have found that they can garner favors by giving handouts to special interest groups, like bigger child credits for illegal aliens, or special tax rates for married couples. Others sincerely believe that, because children of married households are statistically better adjusted (crime rates, drug rates, education levels) it is a necessary and proper role of government to incentivize marriage to ensure the continuance of the nation through demography. That is, to ensure the nation tends towards civilization rather than anarchy. But it makes no sense to change the standards for licenses only to award them to people who can not possibly further the purpose of the license's intent, and openly admit they are only interested in those incentives. For example, if you offer ice-cream to hard working "A" students, it is counter-productive to give all students "A"'s merely because they whine about wanting ice-cream. Talk to your Congressmen and local representatives about your reasons and theirs for keeping the government involved in licensing marriages or not… just keep in mind it's not the only issue they represent you on, and you're not the only voter they must represent.
Q. Is marriage a right?
A. Yes, like any other private belief, practice, or contractual agreement, the government may not infringe upon it without due process or constitutional imperative.
Q. Is a marriage license a right?
A. No, like any other license you must meet its standards. It is only illegal to infringe upon your equal-protection right to APPLY for that license, or to be denied a license only due to an explicitly unconstitutional category of discrimination, such as race. For example, a blind man has a right to apply for a driver's license, but no right to be issued one. A perfectly capable illegal alien driver may apply for one, and be denied because of his residency status, not his race, before being reported to ICE and summarily deported because of his residency status, not his race.
Q. Why do these licenses have standards, and who sets them?
A. Licenses are merely a statement that standards have been met; Licenses IMPLY standards. The standards are set by legislation, or a bureaucracy empowered to do so by legislation, usually in such a way that a rational person would conclude furthers the purpose of the license's existence. "But other people get them too" is not a sufficient reason to subvert the standards of the licensing procedure. For example, licensing a vehicle for street use often depends upon standards of the vehicle's safety, and not the vehicle's color. The licensing exists to promote public safety, therefore the standards conform toward that end. Just because someone else's car is street legal does not mean your top-fuel funny car should be exempt from the same standards, and it does not in any form imply the rainbow paint-job on your funny car is being unfairly discriminated against.
Q. What are the standards for a marriage license?
A. These may vary in some states, but in general any adult not currently so licensed may receive a license to marry any unlicensed adult of the complementary gender. This simple non-discriminatory standard is applied equally to all applicants regardless of their race, exact age, gender, class, or other constitutionally protected distinctions. In fact, it also applies equally to all persons regardless of their sexual preferences, even though such a distinction is not in fact constitutionally protected from discrimination. This standard conforms with a purpose of maximizing the number of children who will be conceived in the most ideal circumstances, without infringing freedoms as would occur by compelling either the circumstances or the conception.
Q. What happens when people disagree with these standards?
A. Because they are set by legislation, the remedies can vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. In general, people have the right to petition their government for a change. This does not imply they have a right to be guaranteed the change they desire. For example, some moped owners may believe that their preferred mode of conveyance is suitable for highway use, and would like the relevant agencies to redefine the word "motorcycle" to include mopeds. Motorcycle owners have a right to honestly disagree that mopeds qualify as motorcycles without being accused of moped-hatred or mopephobia. Mopeds not meeting highway safety standards is not a qualitative judgment as to whether they are "better" or "worse" than motorcycles, simply that they do not currently, in fact, qualify as motorcycles for the purpose of the license.
Q. When do the standards get changed?
A. Standards are a form of consensus which follow the "rational person" legal test. At some time, a rational person may decide that a situation does not meet the standards, yet at a different time, the societal definitions of those words may have changed to the point where a rational person may come to the opposite conclusion. Neither rational person is "wrong", it is merely an apples and oranges comparison. For example, we see a distinction between cats and dogs, and as such do not issue dog licenses to cats. To do otherwise would be a huge waste of resources and defeat the purpose of the license. But at some other point in time the general consensus may be that the word "dog" merely means "any 4 legged pet with a tail," at which time a dog license would be still only be appropriate for dogs, but the actual animals covered would change. If the rational person determines that licensing all dogs no longer serves its intended purpose, then the standards might be changed to license only dogs with non-retractable claws.
Q. Huh? I'm really confused by that last example… when a dog is a cat but not a dog then huh?
A. The bottom line is that all laws are driven by language. Language only has meaning if the definitions of words are consistent. Sometimes definitions change, but this happens naturally through consensus, not by a minority forcing its preferred definition onto others because it is convenient to that group's aims. For example law enforcement agents can sometimes carry weapons onto planes. The definition of law enforcement may change over time by consensus… like including "air marshal", a term unheard of 100 years ago. However Al-Qaeda should not attempt to legally change the definition of "law enforcement" to include "terrorist" and then expect to waltz "law enforcement agents" onto planes with AK-47's the next day. When it comes to language, we must respect our fellow citizens' common sense.
Q. I don't like common sense. Why can't I just have my way now and have the government force everyone else to agree with me?
A. Because hippie, despite your bad hair, poor judgment, and similar level of respect for the intelligence of the gay people, this is not Iran and you are not Ayatollah Khomeini.
CapnObvious on May 11, 2012 at 8:58 PM
Im glad that Obama supported SSM for more than one reason. The first being that I agree with it. Much in the MYOB way that the post talked about.
The second being that this could cost him the election. We are already seeing the fallout of this decision.
In the end 2012 will still be about Jobs but this will help the GOP in crucial states like North Carolina. As long as the message this right this is going to be a big winner for the GOP this year.
Blu3Yeti on May 11, 2012 at 10:18 PM
Forgive the resident atheist a possibly stupid question, but isn't it the Pope and bishops who decide for the faithful what their faith compels them to believe? They seem … pretty clear on this subject.
AP, you aren't the stupid one – the heretic Catholic from San Francisco is.
The day that the Catholic Church forcibly expels the entire Pelosi family – all of them – for Nancy's evil misdeeds will be a welcome one.
Myron Falwell on May 11, 2012 at 10:59 PM
I don't believe the polls anymore
Kini on May 11, 2012 at 5:39 PM
All of the polls, until the ones 2 weeks out from voting day, should be taken with a grain of salt since the people paid to produce them try to give the buyers the results they want.
I like Rasmussen but even his polls don't make sense some days.
Personally, I've always been a 'live and let live' type, however, both sides in this debate should be able to 'live and let live' at the end of the day. Perhaps civil unions, the state granting the rights of that particular contract to gay couples, should be the compromise upon which we settle, since the problems with the contract law, the realm of the state, seem to demand the changes that would essentially negate the traditional, respected and regarded, roles of husband and wife, along with their meaning. traditional marriage, with its traditional roles, must be preserved.
thatsafactjack on May 11, 2012 at 8:51 PM
Unfortunately, the LGBT community is not interested in compromise. This is not about civil rights and those who believe it is are being used, in one way or another, to help the ardent gay community toward their desired objectives. An individual gay couple probably does see it as a matter of equal rights but not to the entrenched progressives. They will not be satisfied until they have destroyed our cherished traditions and institutions. They will not rest until the Supreme Court forces all states and all religious institutions to recognize same-sex marriage.
HoosierStateofMind on May 11, 2012 at 11:31 PM
From Loving v. Virginia, the unanimous Supreme Court decision striking down miscegenation laws: "Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival…."
urban elitist on May 11, 2012 at 7:48 PM
And the very same SCOTUS agreed that this did not apply to same sex marriage see Baker v. Nelson. Marriage is only fundamental to the very existence of our survival if it actually means we survive. That means procreation…
State recognized marriage including same sex is not a natural right. It cannot occur independent of the state and the state must bestow the "right" on to you thus enabling the state to regulate or restrict that right. Although one could argue that a natural bond is formed when a biological child is born automatically making the parents more than friends with bennies- this does not constitute a "state recognized" union.
The fall back is then equal protection under the law. I won't even discuss levels of scrutiny and how sexuality falls under the lowest level of scrutiny. Equal protection guarantees equal opportunity not equal outcome. Marriage licenses are not granted based on sexuality therefore there is no specifically exclusion of any sexuality . Homosexuals can apply and do receive marriage certificates. Marriage licenses are based on regulations decided by the individual states. Marriage laws are not based on love or attraction.
Everyone has the right to marry one person from the opposite gender within that state's marriage regulations (opportunity) . Everyone does not always have the right to marry who they love or are attracted to i.e., incest, polygamy, age of consent, species, same gender(outcome). These restrictions effect people of all sexuality.
Even interracial bans were exclusionary. The interracial ban applied to ONE race: whites. Minorities could intermarry . No sexuality can marry the same gender. Interracial bans would be an apt comparison if heterosexuals could marry same gender, but same sex could not.
You can argue that this isn't fair, but that doesn't suddenly make marriage regulations unconstitutional.
melle1228 on May 11, 2012 at 11:41 PM
Remember what happened on the Left Coast where the activist California judge had to cancel proposition election outcome because it didn't end up going as he would have liked.
viking01 on May 11, 2012 at 5:42 PM
It wasn't just a proposition, it was a constitutional amendment. There had been a previous proposition (22, I think) to ban gay marriage, it was struck down by some liberal judge as unconstitutional, so it was passed again (prop 8) as a constitutional amendment. So the judge ruled in a 100-page legal opinion, "screw you breeders!" and struck the constitution down as unconstitutional just because "i said so".
joe_doufu on May 11, 2012 at 11:54 PM
This is one memo circulating among higher ups in the GOP:
In view of this week's news on the same sex marriage issue, here is a summary of recent survey findings on same sex marriage:
1. Support for same sex marriage has been growing and in the last few years support has grown at an accelerated rate with no sign of slowing down. A review of public polling shows that up to 2009 support for gay marriage increased at a rate of 1% a year. Starting in 2010 the change in the level of support accelerated to 5% a year. The most recent public polling shows supporters of gay marriage outnumber opponents by a margin of roughly 10% (for instance: NBC / WSJ poll in February / March: support 49%, oppose 40%).
2. The increase in support is taking place among all partisan groups. While more Democrats support gay marriage than Republicans, support levels among Republicans are increasing over time. The same is true of age: younger people support same sex marriage more often than older people, but the trends show that all age groups are rethinking their position.
3. Polling conducted among Republicans show that majorities of Republicans and Republican leaning voters support extending basic legal protections to gays and lesbians. These include majority Republican support for:
a. Protecting gays and lesbians against being fired for reasons of sexual orientation
b. Protections against bullying and harassment
c. Repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell.
d. Right to visit partners in hospitals
e. Protecting partners against loss of home in case of severe medical emergencies or death
f. Legal protection in some form for gay couples whether it be same sex marriage or domestic partnership (only 29% of Republicans oppose legal recognition in any form).
Recommendation: A statement reflecting recent developments on this issue along the following lines:
"People who believe in equality under the law as a fundamental principle, as I do, will agree that this principle extends to gay and lesbian couples; gay and lesbian couples should not face discrimination and their relationship should be protected under the law. People who disagree on the fundamental nature of marriage can agree, at the same time, that gays and lesbians should receive essential rights and protections such as hospital visitation, adoption rights, and health and death benefits."
Other thoughts / Q&A: Follow up to questions about affirmative action:
"This is not about giving anyone extra protections or privileges, this is about making sure that everyone – regardless of sexual orientation – is provided the same protections against discrimination that you and I enjoy."
Why public attitudes might be changing:
"As more people have become aware of friends and family members who are gay, attitudes have begun to shift at an accelerated pace. This is not about a generational shift in attitudes, this is about people changing their thinking as they recognize their friends and family members who are gay or lesbian."
Conservative fundamentals:
"As people who promote personal responsibility, family values, commitment and stability, and emphasize freedom and limited government we have to recognize that freedom means freedom for everyone. This includes the freedom to decide how you live and to enter into relationships of your choosing, the freedom to live without excessive interference of the regulatory force of government.
lexhamfox on May 12, 2012 at 12:30 AM
lexhamfox on May 12, 2012 at 12:30 AM
The whole memo is a bunch of trite buzzwords about equality. Many things are not fair or equal in life. That does not mean it is unconstitutional. See my post above..melle1228 on May 11, 2012 at 11:41 PM. As been frequently discussed in the last few days, polls and "support" say one thing; votes say another.
As people who promote personal responsibility, family values, commitment and stability, and emphasize freedom and limited government we have to recognize that freedom means freedom for everyone. This includes the freedom to decide how you live and to enter into relationships of your choosing, the freedom to live without excessive interference of the regulatory force of government.
This again is a laughable trite idiotic quote..
Currently every consensual adult can enter into any relationship of their choosing. And how do you stop excessive interference from the government when you are begging for government endosement? How is wanting a government to endorse your relationship and provide benefits for said relationship small government?
Would love to see where this memo is circulating in the GOP…and would love to see the GOP try to endorse gay marriage and this memo. See how far that will get with it.
melle1228 on May 12, 2012 at 4:06 AM
Would love to see where this memo is circulating in the GOP…and would love to see the GOP try to endorse gay marriage and this memo. See how far that will get with it.
melle1228 on May 12, 2012 at 4:06 AM
Never mind, found it.. The stats are from a Bush pollster who was conducted to do a poll for same sex-supporters. You mean a poll found stats that matched their clients-LOL
"Support for gay marriage increased at an accelerated rate over the past two years, according to a new bipartisan report released Wednesday. The study, commissioned by gay-rights group Freedom to Marry, was conducted by two top pollsters—Dr. Jan van Lohuizen of Voter Consumer Research, who worked for President George W. Bush's presidential campaigns, and Joel Benenson of Benenson Strategy Group, who worked for President Barack Obama's."
melle1228 on May 12, 2012 at 4:15 AM
lexhamfox on May 12, 2012 at 12:30 AM
One last post and I am off to bed:
Today's polls on controversial issues are meant as soft intimidation and are used to sway public opinion not report it. It is to show people that disagree with said conclusion that they are hicks who are not "evolving" with everyone, so they had better get on board. A lot of polls were done at the same time as this one. The Harris poll which cited 53% supported same sex oversampled homosexuals (14%). Alliance Defense Fund commissioned one as well. Their results found that 62% of people supported traditional marriage. Of course it did. The polls were meant to please the client. That poll also found it was directly correlated to how you asked the question. Ask people if they want equality for homosexuals and a majority always say "yeah equality, rah, rah, rah. Ask people if this means we change the definition of marriage for homosexuals, and the answer is no.
melle1228 on May 12, 2012 at 5:07 AM
LOL, as Rush Limbaugh calls it "Obama's evolution to let the states decide"
Marcus on May 11, 2012 at 4:59 PM
I hadn't heard that one … funny and ironic that a party filled with it's and idiots flop for State's rights whenever convenient.
I still think that all "marriages" conducted outside traditional venues, such as justice of the piece, mail order ministries, Vegas chapels, Scientology, and the like, should always be called civil unions. And that contracts should be drawn up to define the terms.
A sad and despicable situation arose in my family when my parents (who enthusiastically supported my late brother's gay marriage/civil union enough to hold it at their house) fought with his partner over his remains and property. Their "evolution" dissolved quicker than Al Sharpton can pull out the race card.
kregg on May 12, 2012 at 7:42 AM


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Love this list! Font #2 tells me to select a donation amount :( Am I missing how to get it for free?ReplyDeleteReplies
It's a donation, so it's optional. Just put 0 and it will work (unless you want to donate) :)Delete
Glad you like it! That font is my favoirte, I use it all the time!
<3 Hannah
Thanks for such a lovely selection. I love the font at the top that says "My Favorite". Can you tell me which one that is and is it free?ReplyDeleteReplies
"My" is font #12 and "favorite" is font #10. They should all be free! :)Delete
<3 Hannah
Thanks Hannah! I didn't download the Albamarle because I had to download some kind of software for it and I was concerned about a virus, but I did take the other one and I very much appreciate you posting it.Delete
Lesli :)
I didn't really like that either. To my understanding, it's just a promotional/advertisement thing. I just clicked "decline" on all the pop ups... not sure if it's a coincidence, but my default browser has been freezing up ever since. So definitely be wise with your downloads, even if it is a pretty font!Delete
Love, Hannah
Thanks so much for the post! I always love new fonts!!ReplyDelete
No problem! Me too!Delete
<3 Hannah
Candy Cane: $9.95 only instant download for WindowsReplyDeleteReplies
- AnonymousNovember 30, 2012 at 6:08 PM
Thank you so much, not only for the fonts, but the chalkboard! horay! im going to make an email. with it soon. Maybe check it out if you'd like to see how you helped www.facebook.com/savvyboutiquerenoReplyDeleteReplies
my computer virus program said #12 had maliware attached to it - I really liked that one too but not worth risking itReplyDeleteReplies
Oh no! I will take that one down! Thanks for the info. That might explain why my computer has had some performance issues.Delete
<3 Hannah
i really liked #12 too! have you found a replacement for it?ReplyDeleteReplies
Well, #2 and #7 are pretty similar.Delete
#12 is called "Albamarle Swash" I know there is a free version (the one I provided) and for sale version I saw on other websites. You could Google it and you your judgement. :)
This one is pretty too: http://www.dafont.com/windsong.font
Also, you can always surf some Free Font Sites to find a similar one!
Hope that helps!
<3 Hannah
THANK YOU!!! I am a little bit of a beginner on this stuff and I was able to download a font but I can't figure out where it went or how I can use it? I installed it on my MAC, now what? I love your blog!!ReplyDeleteReplies
No Problem! You go to the same place you would go to view your documents, pictures, etc, and on the left hand "menu" you should see a folder called "Download"Delete
Locate the font you just downloaded, and click it. A zipped folder should come up and you just click the install font document thingy(not the one that may say terms of use, etc) and you will then have the option to "install"
Hope that helps! If it didn't work, let me know!
Thanks! :)
<3 Hannah
Thank you!!!! I am getting into digital scrapbooking and this is awesome!!!ReplyDelete
Question: How do you create the luxe shape, either as a border (as I see for your "sponsors" link, or as a photo shape (as I see in your self description on the right side of your page)? I've been looking all over the internet, but can't figure it out. HELP!ReplyDeleteReplies
Assuming you have photoshop, if you send your email address to ( email@example.com ) then I will send you my png file that has the image I use.
For a boarder for text, if you open if up in Photoshop, and by using the different layers, you can paste it above your text, save it as a image & then use it for whatever sort of banner you want!
For an image, using two layers,one of my photo, and one with the shape above the image, I just select the shape's inside with my select wand, then click on the layer with my picture, then press copy and then paste. Your image should now be in the luxe shape.
If you don't have photoshop, then try using PicMonkey.com's Label Overlays. There are some similar shapes there.
Also, keep your eyes out, because I am going to be doing a post with all sorts of decorative frills and banners you can use for digital scrap-booking or blog graphics.
Hope that helps!
<3 Hannah
Thank you so much for these lovely holiday fonts! Many of these I haven't seen before, and they are so pretty! So glad to find your blog as well!!! New fan! Merry Christmas!ReplyDeleteReplies
Thanks for stopping by!Delete
<3 Hannah
I love all of them! I'm a new follower on Pinterest. :)ReplyDelete
Thank you so much for sharing these!
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Glad to have you here! It's my pleasure to share them. Merry Christmas to you too!Delete
<3 Hannah
Are any of these compatable with apple products ?? They tell me safari can't download :(ReplyDeleteReplies
Hmmm, I don't know. I use a Toshiba & they downloaded fine. I don't know why they wouldn't be compatible. Which ones didn't work? Did it say that they are not compatible with Apple? You might want to ask the websites that host them.Delete
<3 Hannah
On different fonts I tried to download (using an iPad) and it pops up a window that says 'download error' safari cannot download this file' :( thanks for the quick reply ❤Delete
I would try using a computer. The problem is probably that they may not be compatible with apple Devices (iPods, iPads, etc)Delete
Hope that helps!
<3 Hannah
I got warnings with #3 and 9 on my Mac - anyone else have issues with these? I especially like #9ReplyDelete
The only fishy one for me (that didn't have a straight forward, generic, NORMAL font download) was number 12.Delete
They didn't do anything to my computer.
Go with your intuition but do be careful, especially if your anti-virus software says it has something on it.
<3 Hannah
Thanks so much for the list! The only one I couldn't download was #1. I hate it when I can't complete the list. ;)ReplyDeleteReplies
It didn't work for you? Maybe you just need to try it again. I didn't have any problems with it.Delete
Hope that helps!
<3 Hannah
I found you through Pinterest and love the fonts. Thanks for sharing them!ReplyDelete
- AnonymousJanuary 5, 2013 at 12:10 PM
Thank you for these fonts!! What is the font used for the word "favorite" in the title?ReplyDelete
That would be #10, Things We Said. <3 HannahDelete
- AnonymousJanuary 7, 2013 at 9:40 AM
PLEASE tell me what favorite free font is...been searching for days. thanks!ReplyDeleteReplies
The word in the title, favorite, is "Things We Said" which would be number 10 on the list.Delete
Hope that helps!
<3 Hannah
- AnonymousJanuary 7, 2013 at 6:26 PM
Oh thanks so much!ReplyDelete
- AnonymousJanuary 10, 2013 at 9:41 PM
What font did you use for the word "Christmas" in the title???!!! Email: firstname.lastname@example.com. Thanks :)ReplyDelete
The link in the top comment (about Albemarle Swash) works & I downloaded just fine. Font Lavanderia, however, now reports malware.ReplyDelete
I love these fonts!
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2013 at 1:35 PM
Thank you so much for sharing these! It's so nice when someone compiles a list like this! Can you tell me how you made the snowflakes at the bottom of your chalkboard? Is it a border? Can you share it if so? Thanks again!ReplyDeleteReplies
No problem! I used the snowflake font (#6) that I shared. :)Delete
Hi! which font did you use for Christmas in the title? Thank you!!!ReplyDelete
- Vicki FNovember 19, 2013 at 3:17 PM
I love these fonts, but I have never known how to access fonts that I may want to download. I am on a WordPress self hosted blog, and I do have photoshop, but once I download, how do I actually use them??? Help!ReplyDeleteReplies
Hi Vicki, I mainly use them in photoshop, but they will automatically load in word too. I think you have to specially upload them to a blog to use them- I've never done it myself, but I am pretty sure there are tutorials out there in how to do it. Hope that helps! :)Delete
Do you by any chance know how to download these (if it's even doable) to goolge drive? I've downloaded them to my computer just not sure how to use them, since I make all docs in google drive, thanks so much for sharing!!! Love these fonts!ReplyDeleteReplies
I don't, sorry! They don't show up in your Google Drive as a font option when you download them to your computer? Try Googling it.Delete
Hi love the fonts, Thank you! Wondering what you used to do the snowflakes on the bottom?ReplyDeleteReplies
I used the snowflake font (#6) that I shared. :)Delete
But I also have at least three posts with snowflake freebie graphics found under "fonts & graphics & prints" in my menu. Hope that helps!


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Christchurch city councillors have been warned in a secret meeting that the cost of fixing quake damaged underground infrastructure could be much more than originally thought.
The Star has revealed that Earthquake Recovery Minister Gerry Brownlee called city councillors to a meeting on December 14 where he outlined how serious the problem was.
The Government has previously said it will pay for 60 per cent of the repair bill - the other 40 per cent being met by the city council, which means ratepayers could foot all or part of that bill.
But The Star understands that up to 80 per cent of the extent of the damage underground is still not known; and the cost blowout could be huge.
City councillors and Mayor Bob Parker gave Mr Brownlee an assurance at the meeting they would not talk publicly about what was discussed.
Councillors and Mr Parker refused to discuss the meeting with The Star yesterday.
Mr Brownlee confirmed that the meeting had taken place, but would not give specifics as to what he told city councillors.
"You are asking me to release it all and I'm not going to do that," he said.
"Councillors do need to have time to think of the implications for ratepayers," he said.
In September the Government announced a $1.1b five-year repair plan for earthquake damaged roads and underground services.
But The Star understands the Government is now worried that figure could balloon several times over because of the extent of the unknown damage.
The Star has learned Mr Brownlee told the meeting that no one knew how the cost was going to be met - whether through rates, selling off assets or raising loans.
Mr Brownlee told The Star yesterday city councillors "needed time" to consider the impact on ratepayers.
But Mr Brownlee said that "80 per cent was misleading''.
"I'm sounding a bit flustered here but everything is based on a best available information and estimates. We think 12 per cent of the underground infrastructure has been completed and there is billions of dollars of work currently being planned. The estimates are more like 50 per cent is known and that is conservative, I feel it could be as high as 60 per cent."
Mr Brownlee said the cost of repairing the underground infrastructure would not be known until the work was finished.
"All I can say is that when it is finished we will know the cost," he said.
"Until we get the digger out we can't fully know the cost," he said.
Mr Parker could not comment on the meeting as he did not want to lose Mr Brownlee's confidence.
"I think he should respond and explain his rationale as it was his meeting. If you are invited to a confidential meeting you accept it and be party to the information or reject it," said Mr Parker
"The minister called the meeting because he had information he wanted to pass on that was material to the rebuild.'' City councillor Tim Carter said that discussing the meeting "was very delicate".
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I agree with Tashana. Fine a reasonably priced terry robe and add quilting to the pockes, cuffs and collar, or even add something along the hem or on the back. I would love to receive something embellished with quilting!
Welcome to the Quilting Board!
I agree with Tashana. Fine a reasonably priced terry robe and add quilting to the pockes, cuffs and collar, or even add something along the hem or on the back. I would love to receive something embellished with quilting!
you might want it to be all silk light weight so your shoulders don't sag
NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
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Many years ago, my family that is pretty large, had a Christmas exchange where we each drew a name and that is who we needed a gift for. The challenge was that the gift was supposed to be hand made. My brother's wife taught him how to sew and he had drawn our Moms name. He made her a quilted robe. She loved it and never wanted to tell him this but the robe was too heavy for her. So, please just think about who is getting this wonderful gift and be careful about the weight of the robe! Have fun and share pics!
I have two fleece robes. One I made in 1992 and one my Granddaughter bought as a Christmas gift, several years ago. Both are too warm and I haven't used them much. Now I sleep in long PJ pants and tee shirt and usually don't cover up much.
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This life is the only one you get - enjoy it before you lose it.
Great mInds think alike . Plus was thinking pj pants
I make all my bathrobes for the men in my family. I use heavy fleece and make them down to their ankles. Some are wrap and tie, but my husband's favorite is like a caftan with a zipper up the front all the way to his chin. Warm and cozy. We don't keep our house very warm, so he is snug and so am I in my fleece robe. I have McCall's patterns from years back.
Stretch and sew has a good robe pattern I think the pattern number is 2000. It is very easy to make. I used fleece. It has a lap front and tie. But I used big snaps around the neck and down the front to keep it closed.
What I've done in the past, was make material from 4" sqs, or whatever suit your fancy, in till I have enough yardage...and cut as normal... not very inventive, but works well...would love to see when you finish...
I've quilted bodice, collar and cuffs when you could get robe velour. I found some regular velour on sale and will quilt bodice, collar and maybe sleeves using flannel. I just criss-crossed the lines.
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"Sam will be back": Ubisoft teases next-gen Splinter Cell
Splinter Cell won't end with Blacklist it seems, as the game's art director Scott Lee has teased more Sam Fisher adventures going into next-gen.
Splinter Cell Blacklist co-op trailer shows Sam and buddy Isaac at work
Splinter Cell Blacklist developer Ubisoft Toronto has released a new trailer for its stealthy action game, this time showing off co-op mode.
Rainbow Six: Patriots cancellation rumoured as GameStop bins pre-orders
Rainbow Six: Patriots pre-orders at GameStop have been binned, sparking rumours that Ubisoft's squad shooter has either been cancelled or is being re-tooled significantly. The latter is probably the likely answer though, so take this with a pinch of salt.
Jade Raymond interview, part 3: The Future
The third and final part of our exclusive Jade Raymond video interview is below. In it, Raymond discusses her future plans, whether she'll return to being a stage presence again, and how the games industry is changing.
Jade Raymond interview, p2: Splinter Cell and Toronto
The second part of our exclusive Jade Raymond video interview is through the link, including details on Splinter Cell: Blacklist and starting up a studio as large as Ubisoft Toronto.
Jade Raymond interview, p1: early career, Assassin's Creed
Ubisoft Toronto boss and Assassin's Creed dev legend Jade Raymond gives a huge on-camera interview to Sam Clay, discussing her early career in the first part of this three-section monster.
Splinter Cell Blacklist Wii U trailer shows GamePad features
Splinter Cell Blacklist publisher Ubisoft has released a new trailer into the wild, this time showing off the game's Wii U-exclusive features.
Splinter Cell's complexity is holding back its popularity, says Raymond
Splinter Cell's complexity is stopping it from becoming as popular as Far Cry or Assassin's Creed, Ubisoft Toronto head Jade Raymond has suggested. The team is currently working towards the release of Splinter Cell Blacklist, an entry that seems to go back to the complex stealth mechanics the series is known for.
Splinter Cell: Blacklist - new trailer plays the silent treatment
Splinter Cell: Blacklist is under plenty of scrutiny from hardcore fans of the series. The worry that Sam Fisher has lost his 'silent ways'. You'll be happy to know then that the new trailer is solid stealth action, it's after the break.
Splinter Cell Blacklist confirmed for Wii U release
Splinter Cell Blacklist publisher Ubisoft has confirmed that the game is indeed heading to Wii U in August.
Rainbow Six: Patriots development wrapped up by Ubisoft Toronto
Ubisoft Toronto has finished working on its portion of Rainbow Six: Patriots, studio boss Jade Raymond has told VG247's Sam Clay.
Splinter Cell Blacklist Wii U listed by Amazon France
Splinter Cell Blacklist could be coming to Wii U after all, according to a retail listing by Amazon France.
Splinter Cell Blacklist: 5th Freedom Edition unboxing video is go, watch it here
Splinter Cell Blacklist publisher Ubisoft has sent us a video 'unboxing' of the rather shiny-looking 5th Freedom Collector's Edition. Watch the goodies being virtually unpacked by no-one below.
Splinter Cell: Blacklist will have some kind of "user content"
Splinter Cell: Blacklist is unlikely to come with a level editor or mod tools, but it will include some way for gamers to leave their mark on the game – and on each other.
Assassin's Creed fans "happy" with annual releases
Ubisoft Montreal boss Yannis Mallat believes Assassin's Creed fans enjoy the franchise's yearly release schedule, which gives development teams time off while still delivering fresh product.
Assassin's Creed: Ubisoft Toronto working on Black Flag follow-up
Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag was only announced this month, but two Ubisoft teams are already working on the one to come after that.
Jade Raymond: games industry still has room for "really great triple-A games"
Ubisoft Toronto head Jade Raymond has stated that although free-to-play, mobile, mid-tier and lower cost games are broadening the market significantly, there is still in the industry room for the $60 big-budget, triple-a experience.
Splinter Cell: Blacklist's E3 torture scene axed
Splinter Cell: Blacklist may still give players the option to coercively interrogate enemies should they choose, but it won't contain the infamous torture scene showcased at E3 2012.
Splinter Cell: Blacklist PC players won't have to wait
Splinter Cell: Blacklist will release on PC at the same time as it hits consoles, Ubisoft has promised.
Splinter Cell: Blacklist combat mixes karate, jujitsu, kung fu and more
Splinter Cell: Blacklist footage shown so far has Sam Fisher pulling off some brutal combat moves. This developer diary chats with combat consultant Kevin Secours about the creation of Fisher's fluid mixed martial arts stlyings.
Ubisoft Toronto latest
Rainbow Six: Patriots development wrapped up by Ubisoft Toronto
Splinter Cell Blacklist: 5th Freedom Edition unboxing video is go, watch it here
Splinter Cell: Blacklist will have some kind of "user content"
Assassin's Creed: Ubisoft Toronto working on Black Flag follow-up
Jade Raymond: games industry still has room for "really great triple-A games"
Splinter Cell: Blacklist combat mixes karate, jujitsu, kung fu and more
Blacklist director calls for fewer "adolescent male power fantasy" games
Splinter Cell: Blacklist builds on Conviction's story, successes and failures
Splinter Cell: Blacklist developer video focuses on stealth gameplay questions
Raymond calls for better integration of non-traditional controls
Star in Splinter Cell: Blacklist through GameStop PowerUp Rewards
Splinter Cell: Blacklist confirmed for PS3 and PC, Ironside pulled as Fisher
"If you're going to create something, go above and beyond what's gone before," says Raymond
Assassin's Creed dev feels "it's time for our medium to grow up"
Splinter Cell 6 to explore theme "at the root of the franchise," says Raymond
It's time to "get started on the next technologies moving forward," says Raymond
Ubisoft Toronto likes the new digs, "talking" about the next Splinter Cell
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Daniel M. Sosin
Acting Director, National Center for Injury Prevention and Control
Daniel M. Sosin is the Acting Director of the National Center for Injury Prevention and Control. He previously served as the Deputy Director and Chief Medical Officer of the Office of Public Health Preparedness and Response (PHPR) at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). In this role, he is the lead science advisor and provides scientific representation for preparedness on behalf of the PHPR Director and CDC. He serves as a liaison to CDC programs and external partners and assures strategy and program coordination for PHPR in medical and public health preparedness and response.
Dr. Sosin began his CDC career in 1986 as an Epidemic Intelligence Service (EIS) officer assigned to Kentucky. He served as associate director for science at the National Center for Injury Prevention and Control, coordinating national injury surveillance and extramural research activities. He also served as director of CDC's former Division of Public Health Surveillance and Informatics, where he managed notifiable disease surveillance systems and tools and introduced CDC to biosurveillance concepts.
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After filling it up we found that after leaving a 3/8" on one side of the first frames, and then filling in all the rest of the frames we end up with a 3/4" gap at the other end.
What is up? Our hives are 1/8" smaller on the inside than the hive plans called for even?


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Its really sad that a fan of another team will take the time out to make an account on a teams forum board that they 'hate' hmmm... either you secretly love this team or you're still really that bitter and have no life lol your choice...
Pats are the Giants Shapoopies.
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Let's go Denver!!
Memories.... ohhh the memories. This thread always helps me get through our suck.
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Kensal Green (All Souls') Cemetery contains burials of both wars. Half of the 473 first World War graves form a plot in the south-west section of the cemetery, the rest form small groups or are scattered throughout the cemetery. All of the 51 Second World War graves are scattered. There are also 2 non war burials here. A screen wall in the First World War plot (Sect. 213) records the names of casualties of both wars whose graves could not be individually marked. Also recorded on the wall are the names of five servicemen whose remains were cremated in Kensal Green Crematorium.
Founded as the General Cemetery of All Souls, Kensal Green, the cemetery was incorporated in 1832 (the year that profit-making cemeteries became legal)as a private company and is the first and therefore oldest of the 'Magnificent Seven' London cemeteries. It is still in operation today and is still run by the General Cemetery Company under its original Act of Parliament. This mandates that bodies there may not be exhumed and cremated or the land sold for development. Once the cemetery has exhausted all its interment space and can no longer function as a cemetery, the mandate requires that it remains a memorial park."Located in the heart of London traversing the borders of Kensington & Chelsea and Hammersmith & Fulham is one of London's oldest and most distinguished public burial grounds. It was inspired by the cemetery of Pere-Lachaises in Paris and founded by the Barrister George Frederick Carden. Kensal Green Cemetery comprises of 72 acres of beautiful grounds including two conservation areas and an adjoining canal.
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Welcome, Ryan. Good luck to you, son.
Welcome, Ryan. Good luck to you, son.
I stopped fighting my inner demons. We're on the same side now.
Why wouldn't he be happy to join the Giants? It's the only way an Eagles fan can experience a Lombardi.
I know MH, Eli should of stayed in San Diego and two superbowls would of been gone from our trophy case. At least Simms would still be the best huh?
Reports wrote that Nassib was upset that his coach used him as a smoke screen to pick up Manuel. No doubt he's happy lol, he's gonna be getting millions for holding a clip board, what's better than that?
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A little less than a year ago, I interviewed Jake Replogle about his Haute Taco restaurant in the Sendik's Towne Centre off Capitol Drive in Brookfield. Fast forward to 2012 and I was talking to him about the same location, but a different restaurant. Jake's Burgers opened a couple of weeks ago. Although the restaurant has a similar casual/hip/contemporary feel, the menu is completely different.
First and foremost, Jake's Burgers is all about, well, burgers. Starting with the beef itself which is a custom grind of brisket, short ribs and sirloin that Replogle says just tastes better: "It's a combination that we found was very popular at Jake's Charred Lounge," he explains. "It gives you a full flavored piece of meat that's not dry or greasy and it's ground fresh daily."
According to Jake's Burgers' manager, Duffy Strobos, the change in concept was a reflection of changing tastes: "The specialty burger market is really growing," he says. "We offer approachable food, but we wanted to put our own twist on things."
Although they've only been open a short time, there are already some customer favorites such as Jake's Burger (available in the Charred Lounge inside the original Jake's.) It's a burger with cheddar cheese, oven-roasted tomato, butter lettuce, special sauce and haystack onion rings ($9.95). Also popular are the Wisconsin Burger with beer cheddar cheese sauce, haystack onion strings & bacon ($10.95) or, for something non-beef, the Crispy Beer-Battered Cod Sandwich ($8.95).
The portions are not gargantuan and for vegetarians or those with smaller appetites, there are plenty of salad options as well as turkey burgers or veggie burgers upon request. The wine, beer and drink menu is extensive enough to please anyone. The kids menu has a pretty typical selection sure to please the little ones.
"We're going for that warm and welcoming atmosphere," explain both Strobos and Replogle. "We're not trying to be a fine dining establishment. We want to provide excellent friendly service at a reasonable price point."
Jake's Burgers is currently only open for dinner but Replogle hopes to be open for lunch within the next month or so.
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Name: Jake's Burgers
Address: 18905 W. Capitol Drive
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The heating oil and diesel fuel price runups in late January were made even more problematic by coming on top of the high side of the latest crude market cycle.
Over the past 10 years, we saw crude oil prices rise and fall through several cycles as the demand and production balance shifted due to changes in world economic growth and associated demand, OPEC production adjustments, and other factors, including the exit and return of Iraqi crude oil exports.
The last downward cycle was long and steep and ended in December 1998 at about $11 per barrel (WTI) -- the lowest price in nominal terms since 1986. Prices stayed fairly low through mid-February 1999 before rising again.
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Yesterday's sunset was absolutely breathtaking!
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Yesterday's sunset was absolutely breathtaking!
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"This is when the coaster fun really begins"
"Are you ready to face the Coaster ghost?"
" Where is the night owls?"
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One of the great apocryphal stories in the annals of science is how the Greek mathematician Archimedes ran naked through Syracuse shouting, "Eureka!"—fresh from the bath where he figured out that the force of buoyancy was equal to the weight of the liquid displaced.
Less famous, but just as hard to believe, were Archimedes' last words, uttered in the third century to a Roman soldier unimpressed with the finer points of geometry. Archimedes had helped defend Syracuse by designing a network of lenses and cranes. The lenses bounced sunlight into the eyes of attacking Romans on ships. When the half-blind Romans squinted their way close to shore, gigantic cranes would teeter their ships over. Unfortunately those measures turned out to be more annoying than fortifying. Archimedes, supposedly drawing curlicues in the sand when the Romans finally broke through, was killed for admonishing a fumble-footed soldier, "Don't disturb my circles!"
It would not be the final erasure applied to Archimedes' hard work.
In the 12th century a monk in Constantinople scraped the parchment containing perhaps the only version of Archimedes' "Method of Mechanical Theorems," then overwrote it with healing prayers. The treatise described a calculus-like procedure that anticipated Newton's and, had it been published in the 16th century with the rest of Archimedes' then-known tracts, might have greatly accelerated the progress of mathematics. The parchment also held six other treatises, including the famous "On Floating Bodies," here alone in Archimedes' original Greek.
Ah, but Archimedes—or, more accurately, a 10th-century scribe—had left too strong an impression. The indentations in the goatskin leaves, at a 90-degree angle to the overlying text because the parchment was cut in half and rotated to allow for more pages, survived intact. And soon, with the aid of multispectral lighting and digital imaging, Archimedes' treatises will appear as they were when they were set down, sometime between the years 950 and 975.
"This is the missing link between us and the diagrams that Archimedes drew in the sand," says William Noel, manuscripts curator at the Walters Art Gallery, where the manuscript, the Archimedes Palimpsest—the oldest of only a handful of surviving Archimedes texts—is on public display for the first time. The Walters, in Baltimore, holds one of the largest illuminated manuscript collections in the world. After the palimpsest—a book overwritten by another—was sold at auction last year, Noel tracked down its new owner and procured a loan of the manuscript. Visitors to the gallery this summer will have until September 5 to view it. Then the Walters will embark on an ambitious five-year, high-tech project to recover Archimedes words and diagrams from the impressions under the prayer book.
Unlike Euclid, whose geometry was on the curriculum of the educated cleric and whose works thus survived in abundance, Archimedes was considered theoretical, too technical, too abstract. That and the fact that parchment was hard to come by in the Dark Ages made the manuscript ripe for reclamation. As Noel likes to put it, "The monk's need for a medium on which to put down his religious rites far outweighed his need for mathematical text."
Noel says no one knows where the Archimedes manuscript originated, but he suspects it was in Constantinople, "probably in a monastery or the imperial palace." He says that fortune favored Archimedes; the manuscript was written in an enlightened cultural center, where the ancients were valued. It was even lucky that an important religious document was copied over it—it acted as a sort of bodyguard. "It meant that throughout the centuries it was looked after in monasteries."
An enduring mystery, Noel says: "How could it have remained unknown for so long?" From the 15th century to the early 19th, the palimpsest found sanctuary in a monastery at Mar Saba, a few miles east of Bethlehem. It somehow migrated back to Constantinople, to a convent where, in 1907, a Dane named Johan Ludvig Heiberg, alerted by a catalogue, "went and saw it and realized what it was," Noel says. "He transcribed what he could of the manuscript using a magnifying glass and natural light."
Heiberg's reading had to suffice for a century. A few years after he examined the palimpsest, during World War I and afterward, a time of French occupation of Turkey, the palimpsest's trail became murky. It surfaced in the 1920s, in a private collection in Paris. It remained in France until last fall, when it went up for auction at Christie's and sold to an anonymous bidder for $2 million.
Noel went to work, connecting with the new owner through a London antiquarian book dealer. The owner, who remains anonymous, agreed to turn the palimpsest over to the Walters to exhibit, clean up and help decipher.
Most antiquarians rank manuscript conditions from fine to fair, the latter describing what most people would consider doorstop material. Noel describes the palimpsest in terms that suggest exponentially worse than fair.
"Before we can do any real work, we have to unbind it and stabilize the leaves." Each page will be photographed under a variety of light spectra to produce digital images that can be computer-manipulated at high resolution to their best advantage. Then the digitized pages will be reassembled in their 10th-century order. Thus, from beneath the pages of the prayer book a second book will emerge—a virtual Archimedes that the gallery will make available to scholars and the public. The original book will be rebound the way it was found, in its prayer-book order.
Considering his limitations, Heiberg did an astounding job back in aught-7, Noel says. "He was a brilliant scholar. But because the manuscript was so difficult to read, he had to make a lot of guesses." Already experts who have viewed the palimpsest have found textual variants from Heiberg's transcriptions. Plus, Heiberg did not take the book apart, so he missed passages and diagrams that would have been obscured by the prayer-book binding. And, of course, Heiberg did not have access to the new technology.
What picture of Archimedes will emerge from the digitally enhanced palimpsest? American Scientist hopes to arrange a critical review of the virtual Archimedes. We trust review copies will be a little easier to come by than they used to be.
(For more on the Archimedes Palimpsest and the Walters Art Gallery events surrounding its exhibition, see www.thewalters.org.)—William J. Cannon
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I prefer using other peoples houses/sheds/barns/trees for swarm traps.
I prefer using other peoples houses/sheds/barns/trees for swarm traps.
I found a metric conversion site and converted 40 liters to cubic feet. I got 1.41 cubic feet....I thought that the five frame volume was close to the 40L......but it is not as big as I thought (its .7 Cu FT), only 50% of the 40 liters....I would have bet a lot of money it was closer than that. I'll drive by some building sites and scrounge in their rubbish bins to find scraps enough to make a few of the larger boxes.
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Real good pricing on the essential oils.
Has anybody tried mixing cooking oil and lemon grass oil in a baggie to help prolong the LGO scent? What about placing the baggie on the outside of the trap, encouraging the scent to waft (is that a word?) out as the day heats up, inviting bees from a greater distance?
I have never felt a need to renew LGO scent. I have caught swarms in bait boxes after they are emptied of their first catch, and last summer I caught a swarm on a follower board sitting alone in an uncovered box. The LGO penetrates comb and wood and lasts a long time. More is not always btter.
odfrank, I saw on your post about your new boxes that you areusing LGO with brood comb wax melted together with a heat gun. Do you think that maybe the LGO is slowly out-gassing allowing the smell to last longer, or do you think that the bees just don't need that much LGO?
I always put it in once, like Oliver, it seems to work fine to the end of the season. I also concur that more is not better. Too much will drive them out after it attracts them...
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I think it lasts a long time and you don't need much. It takes a delicate touch on the little bottle to only drop on three or so drops. I just do a couple inside the entrance.
Two hard learned rules of swarm trapping:
Don't set LGO baited traps close together, swarms will divide leaving you a small Zombie swarm in one box.
Tighten those Kelley disks well after moving the swarm.
My new rule for this year: use full size brood chambers.
Three weeks to go here....come on HONIES, coochie coo BABIES come on in!!!! DADDIES WAITIN!!!
That reminds me....I'm not ready for them. Calm down Ollie, compose yourself....get those traps ready.
odfrank, you gave me my belly laugh of the day!
What about using something like Pro Health? It has lemon grass oil in it and smells real lemony.... I had a hive swarm on me last year and took a deep and dabbed some Pro Health on a paper towel and put it inside...But it was of course, on the ground, and the bees were on a tree limb about 50 feet in the air and had been there for 2 days. It didn't work, but I don't know if maybe it was because the deep was so low/bee so high up, or after that length of time they had found something else...they were gone the next day and I had only tried the Pro Health like in the late afternoon, so it really wasn't there that long...
This is a wild swarm that set up shop on a limb 6 1/2 feet off the ground. Had to cut it down and frame the combs up with rubber bands. Only took 18 stings doing it though with the suit on. Very docile....till dark came and the lights come on. Enough comb to fill 2 10 frame deeps with comb left over. 13 layers of comb in that hive. I think hiving them saved their lives as they are still kicking it. They would of froze on that limb for sure.
>Placed 3 meters (10 feet) off the ground in a cool shade of a tree.
I prefer to place my traps in full sun facing south. The heat helps to "vaporize" the scent of the lemon grass oil and old wax. I have had success with traps close to the ground, my first for the season moved in this past week. Picture attached.2013-02-26 13.34.52.jpg
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I would think that is too close. Not sure about Zombie swarms (OdFrank will have to elaborate on that!) but I would think that you would want separation as a way to cover a larger scouting area. I would think that any bees in hive one would have potentially found hive two.
Property ownership in the main problem with a larger scouting area. It's my grandparents property and it's only a couple acres. I have 5 traps out there so basically the only way to space them out would be to remove some of the traps. The place is about 2 hrs away so I can't exactly check them every week. I was hoping to have multiple swarms the times I do go check them.
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If you have access to all your traps, just combine any too-small swarms as you would a weak hive and a strong hive. I too have a limited trap area and can only visit every week, so will be setting up multiple traps in a fairly small area.
I'll ask about the neighbors, Maybe pull one trap from the g-parents property and take a couple more traps down there if I can get enough neighbors.
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Google maps is your friend. And just asking. Most people don't care, as long as it isn't in their front lawn, and you are not attracting killer bees!