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The Adult is the stage of human metamorphosis in which the subject has succeeded the teenhood form and precede into their superior mental and physical form. This form is constantly misinterpreted as the final stage in human metamorphosis. It is, however, not the final form. The final stage in a humans life is death, and before that it's senior citizens, and before that is adult.
edit The Transformation Process
At a certain part of a child's life, they start to go through an unnatural process called puberty. It can start anywhere between the ages of 10 though 18 and can end anywhere between ages 18 and 59. Some very notable aspects of puberty are teenage angst, fleshy bubble wrap, voice modification, height/fat increase, hair growing on your genitalia, booby/pingas enlargement, and some other stuff, look here for more detail. After this long rebellious epic fail phase, they have finally achieved adulthood.
edit The End Result
Having matured physically, maturing mentally and emotionally is optional, just as is fitting in with your peers. This is the life stage that all children look forward to eagerly, since adults make all the rules. What they don't realize is that even when you are an adult, other adults still make all the rules. Young adults from age 18 to 25 are likely to still be living in their parents' basement, if they did not go off to college before returning to stay in the basement during the long painful job search that inevitably awaits them. The college students are sent away to live "independently" for the first time in their lives, while their parents still give out money and finish laundry every 2 weeks when you come home to visit. While you hate your parents as teenagers, your parents become your best friends when you are in college. If you are in college or not, you are probably still working that mediocre fast food job since you didn't have that college degree or you don't "have enough experience" for a real job that you can actually live on. Meanwhile, the corner video store is gone, and no longer hiring, and the tech support and call center jobs have mainly been outsourced to other countries. To some, the prospect of being the boss may be appealing, until they realize that the customers are their new boss, as well as the legal regulatory hoops and business tax requirements that they now have to circumnavigate, it will cost them extra to get help with the job. You decide to ditch the fast food hell and decide that sitting in a cube in some boring office is a way better choice. At least you get your holidays off and 3 week vacations, along with a great dental plan.
Adults from age 25 to 35, having just barely moved out of their parents' house, are pressured constantly by their peers and parents to get married and have babies. You are first spending a lot of time watching a lot of Netflix while you figure out what you want to do with your life. You eventually grab your first real job that pays a decent salary and you go nuts, blowing it on a new Mustang that you have been dreaming of or you decide to travel Europe, something like that. When you are looking for marriage, you shouldn't look for tall, dark, and handsome - you should look for "honey, can you pass me the potato chips." A little bit of weight is a must and you must have that tattoo when you are looking for this splendid woman. Success in this endeavor brings in time yet more joy to the adult life: getting used to your spouse's snoring, and then being woken up in the middle of the night by the baby every night for a few months. Add to this the joy of changing dirty diapers, and cleaning up spit-up, spilled food, and worrying constantly about things getting knocked over as your toddler starts to walk, and even eat food spilled off the floor. You will find adults have different ways of coping with this depending on whether they are a man or a woman. Men like to delegate. Women tend to become anxious, and obsessive about neatness. Men will likely get very into their career at this time, and start working overtime. Women may hire a sitter so they can go back to work, or they may become a full-time housewife to devote all their time to the cleanup required just to keep the house livable, and to spend time oohing and aahing over everything the toddler does, along with putting annoying pictures on Facebook to show off to their cousins and in laws.
Adults from age 35 to 55 may be established in their career, or may be starting over in a new field of work. But time not spent working is still not their own time - it revolves around their children or young teens schedules, driving the kids here and there, taking little Timmy to soccer practice and little McKayla to girl scouts, making sure the kids do their homework, getting dinner ready for the family by ordering some Pizza Hut and nachos, and keeping the house clutter-free. The kids are not helpful in this endeavor as they bring home crafts from school or camp, and neither is the local thrift store, with the tempting knick-knacks priced at such a good buy. You have to put up with the really bad artwork that your kids put on the fridge during that time too. Parents become arbitrators as they settle squabbles between siblings. Some adults of this age become confirmed bachelors or bachelorettes, preferring to spend their money on gaming or at bars instead of on dating. Other adults may rebel against the constraints of the life they have chosen, experiencing a Mid-life crisis. When you hit midlife crisis, you want to have the Harley, the Corvette, and the blonde! And you complain about the wife not letting me have either one of them, but you buy it anyway. You hate your job and you want to quit because your drive time got cut or the younger people are getting paid more than you. You are getting sick of the commute as well, driving down the freeway while you have to deal with road rage and some young teenage punk blasting rap down the road. There is always road construction no matter what. Your precious bundle of joy children has turned into annoying teenagers that dye their hair purple and always getting in trouble with the law.
Adults from age 55 to 64 are in the "I'm not really a senior citizen yet, but give me my senior discount anyways please" stage. The body starts to deteriorate, making everyday tasks harder. Sex just isn't as much fun anymore as it used to be either, the novelty having worn off after several decades. You are probably just too tired to screw, even though you have taken a bottle of Viagra and your back hurts constantly. They start actually paying attention to what's happening with Social Security, and paying attention to ads for various drugs advertised on television. You start getting "senior citizens" discounts at restaurants and you get that AARP card in the mail that you throw out, remind you are OLD. You really start listening to the easy listening station and the weather report on the top of the hour.
Finally, at about age 65 to 70, the transition from adult to Senior citizen is complete.
edit Advantages and Disadvantages
|Beer and Alcohol is legal!
|Getting pulled over by the police
|Do whatever you want!
|Moar sex!
|Pregnancy, Children, and low libido. And your back hurts.
|School's out forever!
|Getting a job to pay for your family
|Visit your in laws.
|Controlling the justice system
|Jury duty
edit See also
- Adult Bookstores
- Adult Friend Finder (yeah, pretend you don't need it...)


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In a tersely worded response, ZTE Corp. (
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I. ZTE Asks Congress to Target Apple, et al. Too
David Dai Shu, ZTE's director of global public affairs, comments, "It is noteworthy that, after a year-long investigation, the Committee rests its conclusions on a finding that ZTE may not be 'free of state influence.' This finding would apply to any company operating in China. The Committee has not challenged ZTE's fitness to serve the US market based on any pattern of unethical or illegal behavior."
ZTE describes itself as "China's most transparent, independent, globally focused, publicly traded telecom company", arguing it "set an unprecedented standard for cooperation by any Chinese company with a US congressional inquiry."
Mr. Dai Shu adds, "ZTE recognizes and fully respects the Committee's obligation to protect US national security. ZTE believes the Committee focused its examination too narrowly on vendor locations not on equipment security. The Committee omitted the Western vendors and their Chinese manufacturing partners, which provide most of the US equipment now in use. The Committee also overlooked the opportunity to advance universal application of the Trusted Delivery Model which protects critical telecom networks on a vendor-neutral basis."
ZTE points out that the iPhone and other "U.S." devices are also made in China, and, in theory, equally at risk. It says if its products should be banned, so should Apple,
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He argues, "Particularly given the severity of the Committee's recommendations, ZTE recommends that the Committee's investigation be extended to include every company making equipment in China, including the Western vendors. That is the only way to truly protect US equipment and US national security. National security experts agree that a Trusted Delivery Model will strengthen national security. In fact, major US carriers are increasingly requiring Trusted Delivery Model in their contracts."
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ZTE does make a compelling argument. If the panel is arguing that large Chinese manufacturers can be coerced by the Chinese government to including hidden spying features in their products, why couldn't Foxconn -- Hon Hai Precision Industry Co Ltd.'s (
) massive Chinese manufacturing subsidiary -- put the same kind of spying features inside iPhones or other U.S.-designed smartphones.
II. ZTE's Iran Secrets
However, ZTE may not be quite as transparent as it says. The company is in a difficult spot as it insists on doing business both with the U.S. and Iran. But U.S. trade laws tightly regulate what U.S. made products can be sent to nations viewed as hostile -- and that includes Iran.
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that a July 2011 ZTE parts list clearly lists several Cisco switches as being transferred to Telecommunication Co of Iran (TCI) -- a criminal violation of U.S. trade laws.
The probe is still shaking down, and it may lead to charges for some of ZTE's U.S. employees. In the wake of the Iran incident, Cisco cut ties with ZTE.
ZTE is accused of funneling electronics to Iran. [Image Source: Reuters]
The Iran controversy adds a tricky wrinkle to the ZTE debate. ZTE certainly does seem to have behaved less-than-honestly, according to reports, trying to obfuscate the fact that it was funneling (intentionally or unintentionally) small quantities of U.S. telecommunications components to Iran.
On the one hand, the Iran controversy and the question of Chinese spying are two separate issues. On the other hand, the Iran controversy could be indicative of general opportunism and dishonesty at ZTE, which could lead to the kind of spying Congress is concerned about. As former U.S. President George W. Bush
, "There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
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posted at 12:41 pm on June 30, 2014 by Noah Rothman
I imagine the horrified shrieks that rose from the streets outside the Supreme Court on Monday as the decision in the Hobby Lobby case began to filter out into the crowd of liberal observers was reminiscent of those poor souls who watched helplessly as the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire claimed the lives of 146 young, female garment workers.
In fact, the similarities are eerie. It seems that liberal commentators have convinced themselves that, just as was the case in 1911, the courts and the country have deemed women to be of lesser value than their male counterparts. The distinction between these two eras, of course, is that while that argument could be supported in 1911, it exists only in the heads of progressives in 2014.
NBC News journalist Pete Williams, an accomplished reporter who is not prone to indulge in speculation, went out of his way to insist repeatedly that the Court's decision in this case was a narrow one. He noted that the decision extends only to the specific religious objections a handful of employers raised about providing abortifacients (as opposed to contraceptives). Williams added that Justice Anthony Kennedy allowed in his concurring opinion that the federal government can pay for and provide that coverage if employers would not.
The Federalist published a variety of other observations about this ruling which indicate that it was narrowly tailored to this specific case. The Court ruled that Hobby Lobby and other employers could not simply drop health coverage in order to avoid mandates. This decision does not apply to other government mandates like those requiring employers cover vaccinations. Finally, if the will of the public in the form of an electoral mandate creates a groundswell of support for a government-funded program which provides access to abortifacients, then that would be perfectly constitutional.
Williams' MSNBC colleagues nodded along and, when asked for their contribution, proceeded to display none of this NBC reporter's caution.
"I think we've seen a real goal post-moving here," MSNBC.com's Irin Carmon said. "We may say it is a narrow ruling because Taco Bell and Wal-Mart can't opt out, but it is still an enormous expansion of corporate rights and of the refusal from the laws that are passed to create benefits for everybody."
"The larger doctrinal implication here is potentially significant," MSNBC host Ari Melber agreed. "For the first time, the Court is going and taking the First Amendment rights that we've seen long established for certain corporate entities and extending them to the religious idea."
"Just because it was only restricted to women's health access doesn't mean that it doesn't create a devastating precedent which says that women's health care should be treated differently," Carmon added. She added that the Republican Party is the biggest beneficiary of today's ruling. "So, the context of this is an all-out assault on access to contraception and access to other reproductive health care services."
HotAir's Karl has accumulated some of the best examples of liberal "schadenfreude," as he's dubbed it, in which the left utterly and intentionally misconstrues the scope of this ruling. Incidentally, their reaction also helps to service what appears to be a widely shared victimhood fantasy.
We've seen indications that the left believes this decision is a prelude to theocracy:
The Supreme Court #HobbyLobby ruling proves once again that Scalia Law is a lot like Sharia Law.
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"So as not to insult Allah, this accounting firm requires that all female employees wear the hijab."
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We've seen liberal journalists and commentators rending garments over the implications of this ruling which exist only in their own minds:
This isn't a win for religious liberty it's an affirmation of privilege for advocates of conservative sexual morality http://t.co/ctb1FwXIWk
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What Hobby Lobby means is there are now two separate classes of women in America: those who work for privately-owned corps and everyone else
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Even poor SCOTUS Blog, an organization which merely reports the news out of the Supreme Court, has endured an torrent of misdirected liberal outrage:
Finally, and expectedly, we've seen liberal politicians stoking ire, generating enthusiasm, and soliciting donations:
It's time that five men on the Supreme Court stop deciding what happens to women.
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Pelosi on Hobby Lobby: "Supreme Court took an outrageous step against the rights of America's women"
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Can't believe we live in a world where we'd even consider letting big corps deny women access to basic care based on vague moral objections.
— Elizabeth Warren (@elizabethforma) June 30, 2014
And this, via John Podhoretz's inbox:
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Original post made by Gretchen, Valley View Elementary School, on Feb 28, 2009
We all have to consider that the values of our homes are directly related to the quality of our schools.
We have to live with a teachers union and let those within the union and district and city do their jobs as best they can. Teachers will never get paid enough money.
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a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Feb 28, 2009 at 10:50 am
Gretchen -- Pleasanton is so much more than "schools" when it comes to home values. That point is proven by what we are seeing in the market today. I don't know about you, but I've seen my property value dive over the last two years and nothing in regards to schools has changed.
Be real. It's a factor, but not worth the cost of the Parcel Tax.
a resident of Birdland
on Feb 28, 2009 at 11:10 am
Paying more will not keep our schools "great". The money just goes to step and column raises and Dr. Casey's expensed lunches, gas and car payments, mortgage interests, and other perks. Not a dime more for pay raise and perks, not in this environment.
a resident of Valley View Elementary School
on Feb 28, 2009 at 11:16 am
Obviously there is much more to do with our home values than school quality.
In this economy we should do what we can to preserve value, maintaining the schools is a good way.
Ask your childrens' teachers if they are for the tax.
a resident of Del Prado
on Feb 28, 2009 at 11:30 am
Posted by Gretchen, a member of the Valley View Elementary School community, 9 minutes ago
"Ask your childrens' teachers if they are for the tax."
Hmmm, like saying, "ask your childrens' teachers if they want their hand deeper in my wallet". LOL
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Feb 28, 2009 at 11:37 am
Posted by Gretchen, a member of the Valley View Elementary School community
In this economy we should do what we can to preserve value, maintaining the schools is a good way.
Response: Much of the "maintaining" can be done through targeted cuts and better prioritization of funds gained through community fund raising efforts. Ask your kids if they'd rather have teachers or a new sound system on the sports field. Or a new marquee. If they are half as bright as the parents/posters here make their kids out to be, I bet they'd prefer teachers.
Posted by Frank(ly), a resident of the Del Prado neighborhood
Hmmm, like saying, "ask your childrens' teachers if they want their hand deeper in my wallet". LOL
Response: Frank(ly) that was perfect! *LOL*
a resident of Heritage Oaks
on Feb 28, 2009 at 11:38 am
I've read it on other threads so I'll mention it here, before it comes up:
"Isn't it worth a dollar a day? Surely you can do without that cup of over-priced coffee".
Problem is, EVERYONE uses this line, from insurance salepeople, to politicians, to teachers. Remember, a dollar here, a dollar there, why, pretty darn soon, your talking some real money. Take a look at your current property tax bill to see all the extra taxes. Watch out for all the new federal, state, county and local taxes and fees (another word for taxes). Hang on to your wallets!
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 28, 2009 at 12:16 pm
At least, the money I give to a parcel tax goes to benefit my community and its schools.
Whereas the money that goes to Sacramento goes where the state decides. Those of you who believe the parcel tax will go to teacher's and other employees salaries, well, of course. Employees are the programs. There is very little money allocated for supplies and staff development. The staff development was cut due to last year's cuts. All school site budgets are tight or frozen.
Some background information:
The 3 staff development days were placed in the calendar year because of Sacramento wanting to ensure staff development was in place. Sacramento also lengthened the calendar school year to its current level. Sacramento has always "forced" districts to add programs, yet never funded them correctly forcing districts to dip into their general funds to make up the difference. The most underfunded program is special education which is required by federal law, yet not funded fully. Class size reduction isn't fully funded by the state even though the state raised standards for our K-3 students assuming that all districts would implement smaller class size. My goodness, kindergardeners are expected to read by the end of the year or they are labeled as "at risk". Most of us, painted on easels, sang, played with blocks, took naps, and learned to get along with others. These ridiculous and unfair funding practices are not individual school districts' faults, yet the state politicians continue to abuse our trust and our money. Please write your legislatures! The "earmarks" in the current budget are a sham!
About eight teachers per elementary site will be cut without class size reduction, 1/2 reading specialist position, 1/2 librarian, 1/2 technology specialist, bands and string teacher, vice principal, custodians, and possibly the P.E., Music, and science specialists. Passing a parcel tax will pay to keep those teachers and programs in place.
If you haven't read the parcel language, no parcel tax can go to increase salaries. Administrators have already taken a roll back for this and next year. Teachers will not receive a COLA raise, most likely for many years. Many Pleasanton teachers are experienced and thus already on the "topped out" levels of the salary schedule. Once a teacher in Pleasanton has 20 years of teaching experience, there are no more step and column raises, only COLA. So, there are no raises, even step and column, for many PUSD teachers. This district has always tried to move younger teachers up the salary schedule quickly to encourage those teachers to stay in teaching and to live in the tri-valley area. Some of you seem to have the mentality of "don't like it leave, many people in line for your job." Well, that is not the case in California. We are facing a huge teacher shortage, particularly over the next 5 years when many of our senior teachers will retire. When they do retire, there will be a major savings to all districts; however, there are enough young people entering the teaching field to fill those spots.
Now is not the time to discourage those young, bright college students to reject education as a possible career. Improvements in salaries and working conditions over the past decade has made teaching more desirable again. I fear that the state of California driven many college students away from the teaching profession. Even if you don't have children, the quality of the people who educate our youth directly or indirectly affects all of us.
a resident of Carlton Oaks
on Feb 28, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Someone please explain to me what the problem is with step & column salary increases. My understanding is that steps are for years of service and columns are for additional teacher education. I can sort of understand people's complaint about step increases, but at the same time I'd think we'd generally want to keep experienced teachers around, both for their own students and to mentor younger ones. If we're competing for high quality teachers and other districts award steps, then we really need to do the same. As for columns, again, don't we want teachers doing continuing education and improving their work in the classroom?
a resident of Parkside
on Feb 28, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Just think... for about 200-300 dollars a YEAR you can save over 200 jobs. Jobs of those people trying to create our future... Our Children. Also, those people who keep there jobs will be eating at our Pleasanton restaurants, buying at our Pleasanton stores, creating business in our downed economy. You... yes YOU can help save Pleasanton... NOT just the schools. Be proud of yourself and your city, create/keep jobs better than the government can!!! If anyone can do it Pleasanton can.
a resident of Carlton Oaks
on Feb 28, 2009 at 5:23 pm
I wasn't clear earlier: "...I'd think we'd generally want to keep experienced teachers around, both for their own students and to mentor younger TEACHERS."
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 28, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Michelle, Taking the money out of my pocket so someone else can spend it on dinner creates nothing--it just moved who spent it. By the way a parcel tax IS giving money to a local government entity. Great example (apologies to those who support the stimulus-this was just too good to let pass):
Shortly after class, an economics student approaches his economics professor and says, "I don't understand this stimulus bill. Can you explain it to me?"
The professor replied, "I don't have any time to explain it at my office, but if you come over to my house on Saturday and help me with my weekend project, I'll be glad to explain it to you." The student agreed.
At the agreed-upon time, the student showed up at the professor's house. The professor stated that the weekend project involved his backyard pool.
They both went out back to the pool, and the professor handed the student a bucket. Demonstrating with his own bucket, the professor said, "First, go over to the deep end, and fill your bucket with as much water as you can." The student did as he was instructed.
The professor then continued, "Follow me over to the shallow end, and then dump all the water from your bucket into it." The student was naturally confused, but did as he was told.
The professor then explained they were going to do this many more times, and began walking back to the deep end of the pool.
The confused student asked, "Excuse me, but why are we doing this?"
The professor matter-of-factly stated that he was trying to make the shallow end much deeper.
The student didn't think the economics professor was serious, but figured that he would find out the real story soon enough.
However, after the 6th trip between the shallow end and the deep end, the student began to become worried that his economics professor had gone mad. The student finally replied, "All we're doing is wasting valuable time and effort on unproductive pursuits. Even worse, when this process is all over, everything will be at the same level it was before, so all you'll really have accomplished is the destruction of what could have been truly productive action!"
The professor put down his bucket and replied with a smile, "Congratulations. You now understand the stimulus bill."
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Feb 28, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Mom2- well said! I find it ironic that when the facts are clearly stated there is no comment from those who continue to post propaganda against the parcel tax. You end up getting a comparison to the stimulus bill. Way to bypass the real facts.
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Feb 28, 2009 at 8:39 pm
I have lived in Pleasanton since 1986. I have watched the API scores rise since class size reduction was instituted in the district. I have also watched the value of my home rise because of the excellent school district.
The situation we are in NOW is not the fault of the district. Just today, someone moved into my neighborhood from Fremont...BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOLS.
Although my own child is about to graduate from Foothill, I want my home value to be maintained and absolutely SUPPORT the Parcel Tax!!
a resident of Ruby Hill
on Feb 28, 2009 at 8:53 pm
I agree with Vicki! I could have sent my kids to a private school for $8,000.00 a year, but instead decided on Pleasanton Unified Schools. I will gladly pay a parcel tax to maintain the excellent schools we have here.
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Feb 28, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Vicki wrote: "I have watched the API scores rise since class size reduction was instituted in the district."
The California API was started in 1999. California's K-3 CSR funding program started in 1996. Does anyone know which year PUSD started participating in the K-3 CSR program? It would be worth looking at the difference in API scores from the first of PUSD's K-3 CSR children with those of children in the previous year.
I'm somewhat curious about this because California historical education data seems to be unavailable online. I had been trying to find standardized test results from earlier than the late 1990s.
a resident of Valley View Elementary School
on Feb 28, 2009 at 9:07 pm
I was regretting having starting this thread, dismayed at the flip comments about the school situation and taxes, realizing why CA is last in the nation in per student spending.
The stimulus bill has nothing to do with it.
If you haven't read the actual parcel tax verbiage you shouldn't comment just because you don't want to pay any more taxes. Look at how little of your property tax bill goes directly to schools. This tax will support Pleasanton only.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 28, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Parents for the Parcel: I responded to Michelle's post. I've taken it down myself and only put the direct response below. Out here by myself posting with the information I can get my hands on.
Michelle, Taking the money out of my pocket so someone else can spend it on dinner creates nothing--it just moved who spent it. By the way a parcel tax IS giving money to a local government entity.
a resident of Birdland
on Feb 28, 2009 at 9:42 pm
I've been following the parcel tax discussions and the board meetings in the past month and have concluded that I will not support a parcel tax unless I see some serious concessions from the administrators and the union.
We only need 1/3 + 1 vote to defeat the parcel tax. It won't be difficult.
We demand better financial planning and management and responsible spending from the district.
The district has to earn our votes.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 28, 2009 at 11:07 pm
Folks, it's a fact that CA ranks at the bottom of the barrel in per-pupil spending, yet we CRUSH the national averages on AP scores and have had our schools rank as some of the best in the NATION by everything from Blue Ribbon Awards to Newsweek articles to Competition Civics (BTW, did you know the teacher who just lead the team to the Nationals is at the bottom of the totem pole in seniority in his department? Bummer for that program!) to Band. I know that parent involvement and level of education, a healthy diet and medical care, etc all contribute to students doing well. It's not the schools and teachers alone. But from a reasonable point of view, shouldn't the district have SOME credibility here? If they need $200/year for the next 3-5 years to keep the level of excellence they've maintained, then I'm going to give it to them. I think that many, many government agencies are run poorly and inefficiently, but PUSD is not one of them. Give the district, the teachers, and most importantly THE KIDS your support.
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Mar 1, 2009 at 7:42 am
Taxpayers will have a hard time justifying yet another new tax that will go to pay PUSD's, high payed administrators and well paid teachers, continued salary increases (call it what you like S&C are raises).
Without a true and absolute salary freeze MANDATED in any parcel tax language FOR THE LENGTH OF THE TAX it will become a game of hide the pea. Money will be moved around, paid by the parcel tax in one pot and freed up in another for raises. It is not that teachers are not valued but this economy can not support raises for anyone. We must preserve jobs over raises.
We love our kids we care about our community and we support our teachers but everyone must make concessions.
As the parcel tax stands now it will fail and a lot of money and community resources will have been waisted!!!
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Mar 1, 2009 at 8:09 am
Again I will state that our property values in Pleasanton are so much more than "schools." That point is proven by what we are seeing in the market today. I don't know about you, but I've seen my property value dive over the last two years and nothing in regards to schools has changed during that timeframe.
Be truthful. It's a factor, but not worth the cost of the Parcel Tax.
Finally I will again remind people that there is an active group of "boosters" that can help fund some of what you are looking to the parcel tax to fund. I challeng you all to ask your kids if they'd rather have teachers or a new sound system on the sports field. Or teachers or a new marquee. If they are half as bright as you parents/posters here make the kids out to be, I bet they'd prefer teachers.
a resident of Del Prado
on Mar 1, 2009 at 8:54 am
Gretchen -
"We have to live with a teachers union..."
No we don't. We will vote down the parcel tax and keep forcing the public to examine the union's role in preventing a more effectively operating school district.
What are the APT and CSEA unions doing to help the situation PUSD finds itself in?
As I see it, PUSD is resorting to laying off employees and raising taxes. How is the union contributing to the goal of 'shared sacrifice'? They continue to charge union dues of $1000 from each teacher. They keep an outdated seniority system that is laying off good teachers at the expense of keeping other lesser performing teachers around. They prevent effective teacher performance practices from being implemented. And more.
For anyone who understands union strategy and tactics, Trevor Knaggs was a brilliant embarrasment at the recent school board meeting; laying the blame at the state level, rather than taking an authentic look at the rules/legislation that protect the union's power. The only sacrifice the APT union is making, is to sacrifice 100+ teacher jobs. Hardly an inspiring position to take that would make an intelligent voter want to support a parcel tax.
And has anyone questioned what influence the APT endorsement of Board Member Chris Grant's candidacy is having on his decisions? I see no public school board pressure on the unions. Why not?
And then to have board member Jamie Hintzke pull the same tactic to take (waste) time in her comments to lay the blame on the state, and rally support on removing good fiscal constraint practices, contributes to the perception of a tax and spend board member. Again, it doesn't help this voter to want to support the parcel tax.
Gretchen, I agree with you that we would like PUSD to do the best job it can. Unfortunately, the union stands in the way.
a resident of Country Fair
on Mar 1, 2009 at 9:15 am
Residence newer to Pleasanton and parents with younger children may not understand that Pleasanton property owners have been paying an average of $900 dollars per year to PUSD for nearly 20 years and we will continue to pay it for the next 20 years.
PUSD has disregarded all protection of oversight that was promised to the taxpayer when we voted for those bonds. The oversight committee has only met a few times in 15 years and not at all in five years. New promises are not credible.
You are naive to suggest a parcel tax is a small price to pay without considering the districts history.
I agree with Carl.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 1, 2009 at 10:21 am
If the district were honest and did not use the extortion/scare tactics.
If all salaries were truly frozen. If the sneaky raises that were taken (from reserves), just before the budget crisis was announced, were rolled back.
If a lot of unnessisary administrative perks got eliminated (car allowance etc.).
If some Management and admin positions were reduced and eliminated (not just MORE vacation time).
If the Union were reasonable and made concessions.
If the federal money was considered real money toward the PUSD shortfall.
If the property owners of Pleasanton continue to pay the $900 per year, on average, special tax they already pay to PUSD.
If we all continue to pay the many taxes that contribute to the districts funding............. we would not need a parcel tax and we would not need to waste money on a special election that is sure to fail : )
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Mar 1, 2009 at 11:24 am
Dana -- Well stated! *clapping*
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 1, 2009 at 11:59 am
The tired, often used, theme, "It's for the children", used to sell just about everything in the educational field doesn't seem to be working in these times of financal stress. Wake up PUSD.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 1, 2009 at 1:00 pm
PUSD teachers and staff are not overpaid. They pay their own vision, dental, and health benefits. If those benefits were on the salary schedule, this district would be facing even a bigger deficient because paying health benefits has already run some districts into the ground. Since health costs have risen between 8% to 12%, in a sense employees are losing ground financially each year. Some of you have a obsession with the wages of district employees to the point of being somewhat bizarre. Years ago during the dot-com and recently during the real estate boom no one was envying or complaining about school district employees' salaries. In regards to dipping into the reserves for salaries/raises last year, that's untrue and ridiculous. The board decided to "save" programs such as coaches stipends, reading specialists, AVID, counseling, intervention at all levels, and the Barton Reading Program last year. Many of you have just jumped on this bandwagon this year, and truly don't know the history of the loss of funding California districts have endured from Sacramento. Most of the tri-valley districts have already passed parcel taxes, but PUSD has waited until now because the situation is truly bad. The state forced districts to cut money last year too. In fact, Sacramento has implemented mid-year cuts after the school district has adopted a balanced budget for the past two years. I am thrilled to have my child attend PUSD schools, knowing that this district has been very responsible with their funds. The five board members are elected and speak for the community, so the administrators aren't able to do anything without board approval. If you don't speak directly to board members then you aren't exercising your right as a citizen of Pleasanton.
I will vote for the parcel and continue to seek reform at the state level. Today, in the paper, legislatures have been caught spending our money for travel expenses unrelated to their job responsibilities (a Hannah Montana concert). Vent your frustration at what Sacramento is doing to our school district and town. It's clear they are causing anger, resentment, name calling, and division among our citizens.
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Mar 1, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Think about this a moment. If the US finally moves to a single-payer system for health care insurance, health care costs would decrease and no one would have to use the benefits excuse for why to support a parcel tax.
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Mar 1, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Stacey -- Most certainly worth considering...
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 1, 2009 at 1:26 pm
The superintendents perks alone could more than fund the Barton reading program. Why have these not been offered up? Casey gets a $12,000 a year car allowance. Our City manager and legislators get between $300-350, yes this is out of scale.
Why is it okay to tell me to give up coffee but not bring his compensations in line?
Pleasanton property owners have been paying an average of $900 dollars per year to PUSD for nearly 20 years and we will continue to pay it for the next 20 years for school bonds.
You are wrong to say "PUSD has waited until now", we are paying more than other communities.
San Ramon out performs PUSD with $600 less per student after the San Ramon Parcel Tax. PUSD has more money than the other districts even with their parcel taxes!!
I have twenty years and four kids in this district.
I value teachers and care about the kids but will not vote yes to more taxes until all questions are satisfied.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 1, 2009 at 3:16 pm
I'm already paying nearly $1000 per year on a parcel tax for PUSD. They'll need to find the money elsewhere.
Consider cutting some of this fat before asking for more taxes!
Superintendent Dr. John Casey is employed under a contract which ends June 30, 2010. His annual salary is $227,002, with a 12-month work calendar and 24 days of vacation. Medical and other health insurance may be purchased at his sole expense, and the District contributes $5,000 annually for life insurance premiums. At the completion of each year of the contract where he has worked at least 85% of the days, he receives a payment of $10,000 into a tax-sheltered annuity. He receives $1,000 per month as a transportation allowance and membership in professional organizations as appropriate and necessary. When Dr. Casey moved to Pleasanton, he received a $200,000 loan to help purchase a home in the community. This loan is interest free and must be repaid within 18 months of the termination of his employment. There is no provision or expectation that the loan would be "forgiven." The current balance of this loan is $190,000.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 1, 2009 at 10:41 pm
To Mom2-
You have said it so well and clearly. I only hope that those who are so full of distrust can hear what you are saying.
We have to remember that this is an issue of the state of California cutting billions of dollars in education. This is an issue of how the district now has to run our schools with millions of dollars cut from the STATE budget.
To those who are frustrated about being asked to pay $200 a year to save only a fraction of school programs,
No matter what happens with the parcel tax, millions of dollars will still need to be cut.
You probably will never understand the impact these cuts will have by being closed minded to what is really going on in the schools, how their funding works, and how employees are paid.
I urge you to take your passion to the state level and let them know how you feel about being asked to support your local school systems because of the STATE budget problems.
I urge you to take your passion about good education to the classroom, become a volunteer or talk to those directly involved in the schools today so you can really understand the issues students and schools are facing.
a resident of Downtown
on Mar 1, 2009 at 10:53 pm
Stacey says: "Think about this a moment. If the US finally moves to a single-payer system for health care insurance, health care costs would decrease and no one would have to use the benefits excuse for why to support a parcel tax."
Do you really believe this? Please tell me that was just wishful thinking. If you do believe what you wrote, you are in for a big surprise! Health care costs would NOT (I repeat) would NOT go down w/ single payer system. However what would go down is the QUALITY of care.
I cite 35yrs of experience as a Health Professional to back up my opinion. You really should not believe everything you hear.
Do some homework. After the shock wears off....you will be very very afraid if/when that happens.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 1, 2009 at 11:03 pm
"Get educated!, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood",
Here is your chance to really get educated. These are fact. This is the problem in PUSD. We would be foolish to keep giving them more money.
Compare San Ramon to PUSD. PUSD has substantially more dollars but San Ramon outperforms PUSD. There is an obvious way to reduce the PUSD budget by $2,430,456 per year.
PUSD has $698 more per student in ADA dollars than San Ramon.
PUSD has $1,850 more per student in total Revenue than San Ramon.
Spends $776 more per student on teachers salary.
Spends $168 more per student on administration.
PUSD spends $2,430,456 more per year for administration and is still out performed by San Ramon!!!!!!
PUSD Performance
API base score 893
Average SAT 1,676
Math proficient 79.7%
Lang Arts proficient 80.7%
San Ramon Performance
API base score 893
Average SAT 1,693
Math proficient 81.3%
Lang Arts proficient 82.7%
ED-Data, Web Link
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 1, 2009 at 11:37 pm
Yes and San Ramon parents pay a $600 PER child "learning fund" every year at registration, and the fact that another parcel tax is on the ballot this spring for them.
Still wondering what your comparison has to do with our need for a parcel tax due to cuts in education from Sacraments. Even with the tax, millions will be cut. Do your homework in the schools, not just on the web.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 2, 2009 at 12:22 am
San Ramon's parents would need to pay $1,850 to be even with PUSD's funding. San Ramon failed to pass a $166 parcel tax, and is now hoping for $144.
Proponents of the parcel tax say other communities have one so PUSD needs one. You can see that even with other communities parcel taxes we still have more money.
We can see that there is significant room to cut in the administrative budget...and yet they went after CRS and reading specialists.
The cuts from the State are real but this shows where the fat in the budget is, cuts can be made without a parcel tax.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 2, 2009 at 1:25 am
"Get educated!", please take your own advice and go get educated. You're clearly choosing to ignore the compelling numbers Liz had worked diligently to gather. (Thank you, Liz!)
Funds have been mismanaged by the PUSD's administrators and money that should be going into the classrooms are used to line the pockets of the administrators and teachers. Even with the extra funding per student, PUSD is still behind San Ramon in students' performance. That says a lot!
A parcel tax is just going to fund more perks and payraises.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 2, 2009 at 1:34 am
The California Constitution guarantees each student the right to a free public education. Education Code section 56000et seq. mandates the provision of free appropriate public education, including special education facilities and classes, to persons with exceptional needs.
I don't see how San Ramon can require parents to pay a $600 learning fund at registration without being sued.
a resident of Valley View Elementary School
on Mar 2, 2009 at 9:16 am
I'm all for the parcel tax for Pleasanton to help maintain the quality of our schools. I'd rather it be on the higher level the board is considering so less programs and jobs will be lost.
When it comes to the Pleasanton parcel tax issue I'm not at all concerned with what San Ramon does with their money, what the feds do with stimulus funds, or what the best solution is for health care.
It is a union representatives job to protect teachers and their benefits. If you want to argue that the union rep should be thinking of the kids then you shouldn't argue against the tax.
If any one of us were offered Mr. Caseys perks we'd have taken them in a heartbeat. It was fine when the economy was fine. Now the economy isn't so expenses have to be reconsidered.
a resident of Country Fair
on Mar 2, 2009 at 9:50 am
Gretchen's comments are naive and irresponsible. I want fiscal responsibility not Pollyanna thinking before I support a new tax.
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Mar 2, 2009 at 9:52 am
Unfortunately the evidence is against you. Yes, I did read up on this, Taiwan being a case study on this. Look, one has to ask why no other country in the world is scrambling to set up a health care system like we have in the US. That's because it's inhumane.
When you write about quality of care going down, think about that for a minute. The US is a spending outlier in health care because those of us who are insured tend to spend money that is not ours on the very best treatment that money can buy, regardless of whether or not it is truly necessary. If you want to label excessive and over-the-top treatments as "quality", feel free.
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Mar 2, 2009 at 10:02 am
P.S. I want to provide Beth with the opportunity to back up her claims with some evidence. Here's some of mine:
"The Health Care Crisis and What to Do About It" Web Link
"Health Care in Taiwan" Web Link
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Mar 4, 2009 at 9:22 pm
I am soooo sick of hearing all the negativity about the parcel tax!! Alright, don't pass the parcel tax and watch and see what happens.
PSUD's elementary class sizes will go to 32. The district will not move to the more moderate increase of 25 as there is no finicial incentive from the state. The state pays incentives to districts that are willing to institute CSR (for PSUD that's $4 million dollars) and the district supplements the rest...which amounts to about 1 million dollars.
Reading Specialists won't exist and for the kids who need extra attention and help, teachers will be spent trying to help them.
Entering high school English and Math students will be in classes of 30 - 33 students. Those kids who are trying to write their first thesis paper with imbedded quotes, or recall Geometry from 2 years ago won't have the same kind of attention as my sophomore at Foothill did. This list goes on and on.
Not passing the parcel tax would be a huge cost to our kids. Mine is almost graduated and out of the district, but I WILL SUPPORT THE PARCEL TAX.
Friends in San Ramon always complain about the fact that they have to pay 500.00 per student as a "donation" at walk through registration. PSUD has never done that!
If Pleasantonians can't sacrifice $1.00 a day or less to keep the excellent education PSUD has provided, I feel sorry. My kids are almost out of the system and one their way to college, but I will continue to support the district for the kids that are coming up. I can afford a $1.00 a day (or less) to maintain the excellence we have. PSUD wasn't mismanaged and therefore didn't get us into this mess. Vote yes on a parcel tax and keep our good schools, scores, and property value!
a resident of California Reflections
on Mar 4, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Pleasanton has $1,850 more revenue per student than SR. If every SR student (not family)donated $500, PUSD would still have $1,300 more per student. Why does PUSD need more?
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In my area they spray for mosquitos on occasion and I am wondering if this will affect the bees. Just trying to bide my time until I get my bees. trying to think of everything.
very interesting thought. I had not considered that threat vector. They fog near us with truck mounted...well this is straight from the control board website
Adulticiding involves the application of products to reduce the number of adult mosquitoes. This service is provided to reduce mosquito annoyance and to protect you from mosquito-borne disease.
How are these products applied?
These products are applied using pickup-mounted ULV (Ultra Low Volume) aerosol generators which dispense very small amounts of material; approximately one ounce per acre. These machines break the material down into very tiny droplets which remain suspended in the air for a matter of minutes or hours but are then quickly broken down and leave no residual material in the environment.
What time of day will this service take place?
Mosquito adulticiding is conducted in the evening beginning approximately one half hour before sunset.
What control product (adulticide) will be used?
The ULV machines dispense permethrin.
Will these materials harm humans, plants or other animals?
As used in mosquito control, these materials will not harm humans or other organisms. It is designed to affect insects in particular, and the small amount of material used for mosquito control is safe for humans, pets, birds and other wildlife. This material can be applied directly to dogs and poultry to control fleas, lice and other biting insects and to trees and shrubs to control plant pests.
How do we decide where to fog?
We fog the entire County as mosquito populations dictate. We have a number of collection traps which allow us to identify areas of greatest mosquito activity and to prioritize areas for treatment. Please remember that the nighttime fogging is only effective if there are mosquitoes flying at the time of treatment. It does not provide residual protection against future mosquitoes. The County is divided into specific routes for the nighttime fogging.
These folks also treat a lot of area by plane, but that is a chemical that specifically targets mosquito larva and no otehr instects. firthermore, they treat standong water directly with something akin to mineral oil. the permethrin fogging doesn;t sound good for the bees, but it is done at night and the ladies should be at home resting, so probably not too big of a concern...I hope.
I have dealt with mosquito control were I live. They say that the truck will harm hives within 75 feet of the road. The plane is a different story. If you let them know you have bees they will call you and let you know when they are spraying, by a recording. The problem with the recording for the plane in my area is that it will say something like we will be spraying in area 9 Aug 10th thru Aug 14th. You cant keep your bees hived up for four days. Then if its to windy thwey cancel and dont tell you. If they spray at night it is not suppose to effect your bees unless your hive is right next to the road, They claim that it only effects the foragers that are out and about who knows.
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I plan to talk with them about this, but what you're saying is good news. I'll have the hives nearly 1/4 mile from the road at the back side of the property. The planes are used to cover broad areas of flooding and apparently drop a granual of some sort that the larva easts and it disrupts the digestive system. it is supposed to have no effect on flying insects (mosquitos in adult stage included), so my fears are minimal there. I'll see what the Mosquito control agency says tomorrow.
I live on a lake out in the sticks, but still in a "metropolitan" county. That means that we get sprayed a couple of times a year. Because we are on the water, they use two products - BTI and Methoprene. I have been assured that these target only the larval stage of the mosquito and pose no harm to bees. My first response to that was "Right..." I can tell you that my lakeside colonies have been doused many times during application with no obvious harm to the bees.
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The mosquito control folks DO use bee-toxic chemicals to control adult mosquitoes. Here's a quote from the Minnesota Metropolitan Mosquito Control District web site:
"As for adult mosquito spraying, the pyrethroids used by MMCD pose no measurable health risk to humans and animals, but are toxic to fish and bees. This is why we do not spray near water or blooming crops. Permethrin is only applied to dense vegetation where mosquitoes rest during the day, and resmethrin is applied as a fog during the evening when mosquitoes are active but bees are not. All of our materials are registered for use in Minnesota and are among the safest available. As professional applicators we take pride in only making a treatment when necessary, following label directions, and minimizing the potential impacts on non-target species. We live in this area and enjoy the outdoors too, so we take a personal as well as professional interest in protecting the environment."
-Phil Domeier
Once your hives are registered with the state you need to call you county.
They will but you on a no spray list. They are very good about turning the truck off before they reach my house. I understood that my county sprays permethrin based stuff that dissipates quickly and I haven't seen a problem. I was told a neighboring county uses a malothion sp?
product that has residual issues for bees.
Once you are on the list of registered keepers they will contact you and inform you of arial spray times and zones. The product they use often has little affect on bees based on a experiment done here. I had one yard near a spray zone this year and covered the hives with a tarp and noticed no kill of affects. This year the arial spraying was funded though emergency funds and I didn't have enough notice to move the hives. They called me twice and send me the specs on the chemical they sprayed.
On the news last evening, Dallas, Texas, is preparing their mosquito spraying program for this year. I'm sure Fort Worth won't be far behind is updating their program. Now is the time for you Dallas/Ft. Worth beeks to have some input into the mosquito spraying program.
I just got off the phone with the operations director and in an unexpected "small world" kind of way, he happens to be a beekeeper. He is third generation beek, so he well knows my concerns. He explained that along with BTI, they do use permethrins to go after adult mosquitos. One of the methods dissipates quickly and has very little effect past 300' ...and is applied at night. The other method is to go after spring daytime mosquitos and they are sprayed during daylight hours in the evening. These work further from the road and could pose a significant risk to foragers, but not to the hive as a whiole.
He added my name to a list of apiaries in the area they modify the spray plans to make sure that they do not spray as they pass within an area dangerous to bees. The guy was nice enough to recommend good (and also safe) locations for me to place my hives on the propery based on satellite photos.
All-in-all, that conversation went much better than I expected it to.
Great Info. They spray both using the truck mount method as well as the occasional plane Here they use picaradin (DEET) and oil of lemon-eucalyptus, sold as Repel. I will call county operations to put me on a do not spray list. My bees will be about 75ft from the road, behind a fence, but I still worry. Thanks for all the help.


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Dear Crellstone....even when they are the best I have seen, your pictures do not makeany justice. Do y uo miss the NW?
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We revisit Tilcara for lunch and then take the one turning off of the road, which we have been travelling along for 3 days, to Purmamarca. On the way we pick up a Polish hitchhiker (it seems that they are not all working in London!). The bus had dropped him and his 2! girlfriends at the junction and would not take them the last 2kms to Purmamarca, so the girls were sending him ahead to find a taxi. Fat chance!
Purmamarca is a small village nestled at the foot of the "Cerro de los Siete Colores" (Hill of the 7 colours). Another village geared for visitors with the usual places to eat and sleep and the obligatory, overpriced craft market in the village square. Strangely, a lot of the restaurants and hostals were closed maybe it was too early in the season. Accommodation here seemed in the main to be quite cruddy and more expensive than we expected, presumably because it is on a well trodden route plied by the tour buses, but we needed to stay overnight to see the morning sunlight on the 7 coloured hills. They were beautiful, but tricky to photograph as they were so big and so close to the village- I think our best shot was as we left the village and looked back at them from a distance.
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Dear Crellstone....even when they are the best I have seen, your pictures do not makeany justice. Do y uo miss the NW?
Hi Angie. Yes we do miss the northwest (a lot!) but hope to return in the not to distant future! Assuming of course, that the current diplomatic wrangling over Las Malvinas does not escalate making it difficult for us English to visit.
Thanks for your comments re my photos. You are right of course, they do not do it justice - I clearly need a better camera!!


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I expect us to be giving Bradshaw a call when brown is out for the season... same story with Boley and Williams.
The dude is all heart who plays bigger than his size. He still has some gas in the tank if he could only stay healthy. Coming in later in the season might not be the worse thing either.
Don't forget about Scott. Would love if they could carry 4 RB's with Bradshaw on the team.
I don't think we need him at this point, I'd rather just go roll with the one-two punch with Wilson and Brown. Could be a dangerous combination.
He's injured (always), he paractices (NEVER), he hurts the team as much as he helps it. He's an emergency signing only, not a serious consideration for the full season.


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Alternative medicine
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Alternative medicine
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Alternative medicine is any medical treatment that is not part of Western Medicine, such as one would learn in "medical school", "nursing school" or even paramedic training. Much, if not most of the "alternative medicine" world lacks any scientific proof of its effectiveness, and that which does have real effectiveness, tends to be palliative[1] not curative. Alternative medicine includes "traditional medicines" (i.e. "medical" systems developed prior to or outside of Western Medicine, such as traditional Native American remedies, or Traditional Chinese medicine), , "folk remedies" (i.e., herbalism, tinctures, and rubs that were common place "treatments" often passed around via urban legend), and an ever growing class of "religious" or "spiritual" treatments that have their sources in Eastern Religions, but are filtered through a pay-as-you-go, for-profit (see "New Age" mindset. The term "alternative medicine" is also a common term for medical marijuana.
Alternative medicines or therapies range from being scientifically provable to scientifically disproven, and can be benign (and often ridiculous) all the way to downright dangerous. Medical science has only recently started to do quality and quantity research into alternative medicine. With the exception of some surprising and exciting treatments that have true medical potential, the vast majority of the therapies do little if anything beyond the placebo effect. Even when the treatment actually does something, the reasons given by practitioners for why the treatment is effective are almost never based on correct scientific information. Benign treatments have the advantage of not directly injuring a patient, other than money going out the window. The ridiculous cannot possibly have any medical effects (beyond that of the placebo effect at the least), or may be actively dangerous to the patient.
All alternative medicine, even the "effective" therapies have the danger of convincing an unwell person to forgo actual medical treatments because they think they are getting better (which can happen with palliative remedies and placebos) or they choose to trust their alternative practitioner who is offering a "cure". For example, a person with cancer may convince himself to try a homeopathic remedy. Also, many herbal remedies can actually interfere with prescription drugs, lessening their effect or even causing dangerous side-effects. Since almost all alternative medicines are unproven; many advocates (known to some as "alties") tend to appeal to "health freedom," rather than actually try to prove that their nostrums work.
Problems with alternative medicines
False hope
Many practitioners exploit vulnerable patients. They give false hope to people who are incurably sick and frequently charge high prices for useless treatments. The belief that alternative medicines are somehow "less risky" or "less harsh" than conventional medicine has led some to take alternative medicine over conventional medicine. While this may often be true (though don't say that to someone who's lost skin or body parts to black salves sometimes used for skin cancers), the potential health risks of not taking conventional medicine for an illness far outweigh the risks from the side effects of these medicines.
Lack of regulation
When a student wants to become a physician, he or she must attend a certified medical school, pass rigorous medical exams, and participate in carefully monitored and regulated internships all regulated by the governmental bodies who licence the doctor. For the majority of alternative medicine, no such regulation is in place. For a few specific alternative therapies like chiropractic work and message therapy, regulatory bodies do exist. However, pretty much every other field of alternative medicine has no regulation at all. Call yourself a color therapist, and lo-and-behold, you are one.
There is also a lack of regulation in the products sold as "alternative" or "herbal" medicines. You cannot, for example, know what is in a "sleep healing tea", how much of each ingrediant, or how potent the pills are. Also, as there is little scientific research, "doses" are always a guess. "try one pill, if that doesn't work, take two".
Kinds of alternative medicine
You can't neatly brush it all into the quack corner.
Proven palliative effect
- Massage therapy — massage has real benefits such as temporary pain relief and increased circulation, but like all other woo, some less ethical therapists will sell it (and a line of smelly herbal additives) as a cure for almost anything.
- Chiropractic — has been shown to relieve some back and joint pain and mitigate some chronic headaches. Has the disadvantage that it can damage soft tissues if done wrong.
- Medical marijuana — Some adhere to the smokable version of this despite issues with proper dosing; its medicinal properties are also found (and precisely dosed) in Marinol, its drug-equivalent.
- Osteopathy — In North America it is a variant of mainstream medicine, albeit one with slightly different approaches to medicinal problems. Outside of the US there appears to be a great deal more quackery involved.
- various meditative, music, color, and aromatherapy have limited but highly successful effects for dealing with chronic pain, chronic stress, and other minor psychological side effects like sleeplessness and temper. It should be noted, this last list is specific to dealing with these issues, and not actually changing the amount of pain or stress.
Potentially provable
- Acupuncture ("Pointillism", as it is known in the art world) — like the caricature of using voodoo dolls, but practiced on the
victimpatient directly.
- Herbal supplements — some are fairly effective for some conditions; others close to useless.
- Oil pulling — does have some effect against tooth decay. Not much else, though.
- Aromatherapy — smelling nice has some social advantages and (probably) won't kill you. To cure anything other than the above, however, it's nonsensical.
- Reflexology — [2]as a massage therapy it can reduce stress, but there is nothing it can cure
Somewhat benign, occasionally dangerous
- Chiropractic — to cure anything except back pain. Sometimes done on children and babies, which could risk breaking their spines.
- Colloidal silver — an alleged "natural" antibiotic, its only possible use is for that very tiny segment of the population that has a burning desire to look like a smurf.
- DMSO — an industrial solvent by-product of paper manufacture, used topically for a variety of health claims.
- Male enhancement capsules — To cure the desire to buy a large SUV.
- Hypnosis
- Ear candling — a silly practice alleged to draw toxins out of the ears.
- Coffee enemas — as ridiculous as ear candling, but exponentially more disgusting.
- Faith healing — attempts to use raw prayer and faith to heal. Too bad practitioners don't have any.
- Homeopathy — using dilute solutions with no remaining active ingredient to treat conditions.
- Cupping
- Magnetic field therapy
- Black salve — (aka cansema) a paste made from bloodroot that is said to "draw out" cancer cells in tumors; known for causing massive disfiguration. If chemotherapy is slash'n'burn, this stuff is a West Coast thousand-acre wildfire. [3]
- Laetrile — attempting to cure cancer using cyanogen compounds found in stonefruit pits, particularly apricots.
- New German Medicine — attempting to cure cancer using psychological conflict resolution.
- Trepanation — intentionally drilling a hole in one's head.
- Sungazing — staring at the sun cures all ills, especially chronic eyesight.
See also
External links
- What alternative health practitioners might not tell you
- Quackwatch: Full of useful information debunking many alternative medicines
- How To Spot a Quack Arthritis Cure (a good article which also applies to most other illnesses)
- Why Bogus Therapies Seem to Work, Barry Beyerstein
- Folk Medicine, Wikipedia.org
- ↑ any medication or treatment that helps a patient cope with an illness and its side effects, but does not actually effect the underlying disease
- ↑ www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycKGQSGr_8Y|claims as cure all
- ↑ See the photos


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I love that celebration, as he "hits it" I'm all like, "what! what! what!"
I just wish he ran angry all the time.
I like the guy but we need new blood on the line and an angry beast pounding the rock.
Bradshaw's a little dude running like a big man, Jake's a big dude running like a little man, with no lateral vision I might add


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Changes to the 2012 edition of this electrical safety standard target training, verification to improve worker safety
Injuries to workers exposed to high voltage and related electrical hazards may never be totally eliminated, but it won't be for any lack of trying to bolster the NFPA 70E workplace electrical safety standard. Drafters of the 2012 revisions to the standard aimed again for that lofty and worthy goal, fine-tuning and updating requirements for oversight, documentation, procedures, and systems to protect workers. Of course, whether all that's ultimately a good thing partly depends on how one views fate, the law of averages, and whether more is better when it comes to rules and regulations.
But the reality is that 70E, last updated in 2009, is now a more ironclad and nuanced safety document. Those looking to it as one way to comply with OSHA worker safety rules will have more standards to meet and practices to follow, not to mention clearer guidelines on ensuring workplace electrical safety. Employers, workers, electrical contractors, trainers, and, to some extent, suppliers of electrical components and safety products will feel the effects of this latest round of revisions to different degrees.
While many again reflect new knowledge and a better understanding of risks and hazards, the vast majority of the revisions seem to buttress the view that safety comes down to just keeping an eye on the ball. By carefully developing and religiously following formal procedures — and creating a system of checks and balances to ensure they're carried out — parties responsible for worker safety will be better positioned to head off potentially deadly mishaps.
The NFPA 70E Technical Committee on Electrical Safety in the Workplace, which developed the revisions approved by the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA), addressed that through a number of additions and clarifications of language that spell out employer responsibilities for making work environments as safe as possible. Let's take a look at some of the most significant changes and how they will affect electrical professionals.


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The Republican National Convention crowd at the Tampa Bay Times Forum, in Tampa, Florida, erupted in cheers as Wisconsin congressman Paul Ryan took the stage Wednesday night. As the evening's final speaker, Ryan was there to officially accept the Republican nomination for Vice President. "For my part, your nomination is an unexpected turn," Ryan said. "It certainly came as news to my family."
Ryan introduced his wife Janna, daughter Liza and sons Charlie and Sam, and his mom, Betty, to the crowd. He spoke about his dad, Paul Ryan, Sr., a lawyer, who died when young Paul was 16. "I like to think he'd be proud of me," he said. "I'm sure proud of him and where I come from, Janesville, Wisconsin."
Then, Ryan got down to business. He explained to the audience in the Forum and watching on T.V. at home why they should vote for him and Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney on Election Day, November 6. Ryan criticized President Barack Obama and his administration for increasing the national debt and said that the U.S. has to spend less money. "Before the math and the momentum overwhelm us all, (we) are going to solve this nation's economic problems," Ryan said.
Ryan admitted it would not be an easy task. "These times demand the best of us—all of us—but we can do this," Ryan said. "We can get this country working again. We can get this economy growing again." As he concluded his speech and brought his family out onto the stage, Republicans on the convention floor danced and cheered.
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