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Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by loublue22, Dec 17, 2012.
who saw that?
"nice to hear from Dr Dez"
what a ******
Yea I heard that as well. What is a bone graft...I have heard of a skin graft but never bone.
It's a joke, I chuckled a little actually
Score 7-3 at halftime? Looks like I haven't missed anything on this MNF travest of a game.
A bit off topic, but was it me or did Berman and Jackson seem incredibly somber when discussing the Cowboys win yesterday?
his voice was dripping with disdain
very somber.
I've had a bone graft from my hip into my neck when a cervical fusion failed and it cadaver bone that was inserted first had to be removed. They go into the hip on the side of the injured side and cut out a piece of the hip and shape it into the body part they are needing to replace. In my case it was the disc at c5-c7, for Dez, it will be part of his finger. From what I recall, the fun part for the surgeon's is shaping it to match where they need it to go.
I hate Chris Berman. That's all I need to state
berman hasn't been fun, interesting or insightful for years.
jackson was choking down some crow while he was praising the heart and will of the cowboys, wasn't he?
Fairly common actually. Usually comes the pelvis, but I've seen where part of a fibula was used to replace a shattered forearm.
It was ridiculous. Berman was visibly bothered by the outcome. When they were doing the highlights he kept making it like the Steelers inexplicably gave us the game with the fumbled punt. It was like he just couldn't accept it. The ball was stripped. Was he so bothered when Kyle Williams let a ball bounce off his leg against the Giants in a play that was a big reason the Niners didn't go to the SB last year? Was he bothered by the fact that Murray fumbled inside the Steelers ten (essentially taking 3 to 7 points off of the board)? Berman did not want to give the Cowboys credit. He was obviously unhappy about the outcome. At least Jackson choked out some stuff about the mental toughness of the Cowboys. Although I though he was going to cry when he did it - he looked distraught. Of course, Dilfer was fine - he doesn't hate Dallas. I rarely watch ESPN but I wanted to watch the highlights and their commentary made me laugh. Also, if Romo was any other QB, they would've been singing his praises after a near flawless game (and the way he has been playing over the past month or so). It's fine. Just keep winning Dallas and we can continue to laugh as the media, and other fans, look like somebody stole their lunch.
Berman is horrible and is too stuck on his Bills.........in fact still bitter about Super Bowl losses Dallas put on them back in the day.
Tom Jackson has gone from ex players who has insight and can be funny to surly, bitter old man over the years. I'm convinced he HATED having Irvin on with him, like he was the devil.
From everything I've read Berman is just an *** in life. Oh we'll. He can't stand the Cowboys with all his years of 49er and Bills love.
Berman has hated Dallas since around 1992 when Dallas kept killing his two favorite man crush teams he had. In a 4 year stretch he kept predicting 49ers while 1 out of 4 :laugh2: he got right. Then for several years he was predicting 49ers Buffalo and had that stupid jacket that he would put on that was half 49ers; half Buffalo two years in a row Dallas destroyed both his teams he had a man crush on.
Espn has not been a credible network for I say about 10 years now.
Berman and Jackson both use to be very good at their jobs. Berman WAS funny, but not for quiet some time. Both come across as bitter old men with some kind of ax to grind with the Cowboys. For Jackson, it could be because we crushed him in his only Super Bowl appearance. Berman? Who knows. Maybe because we beat the crap out of the Bills twice.
Only guy I like on espn is Dilfer because he calls stuff fair. He has no ax to grind.
He gives good insight on what is going on in the game today.
If you detest Berman, you'll like this. When I lived in Atlanta it was made known that he was never allowed on the local sports radio, 790 The Zone. The reason being was that he acted so pompous that he actually demanded that an intern open his bottle of water for him each time he was about to use it.
Great guy.
Ha! Youtube "Chris Berman rant". Can't post it here.


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Proposals to change the Official Information Act are at odds with the Government's claims it is committed to openness and transparency, the Green Party says.
Justice Minister Judith Collins yesterday announced a series of changes to the OIA and the Local Government Official Information and Meetings Act in response to the Law Commission's recently completed review of the law.
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She said the Government had simply picked out the recommendations that suited it, "like creating new ways of withholding information".
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STEVENS POINT, Wis. -- It won't be long before we are forced to rely solely on textbooks and other means to learn about the Holocaust. The generation who lived through it is dying quickly taking with them their deep and personal knowledge of this incredibly tragic part of our history.
90-year-old John Regnier lives a quiet, comfortable life with his wife Eva Mae at their home in Stevens Point, but thoughts of what he experienced more than 60 years ago are never far from his mind.
"My memory of the sights and smells of that is sharper than things that happened a month ago. you never forget it," says World War Two Veteran John Regnier.
The year was 1945. Regnier, a member of a medical battalion assigned to the 4th Armored Division, had come upon a group of soldiers at a camp near the small town of Ohrdruf, Germany. It was a place that would eventually become known to the rest of the world.
"It was a terribly shocking thing to see," said John.
It turns out Regnier and his convoy had just stumbled upon the first German slave labor camp the American Army had liberated in the war. "The slave labor camps were run by the SS troops, the SS part of the German military that was fanatically trained. The SS troops guarding this camp had killed over 3,500 of the camps inmates before the camp was overrun," says John.9669892
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Regnier had the rare experience of touring the camp with some of the war's top commanders including Generals Eisenhower, Bradley and Patton. "I always remember when the MP's opened the door of the body shed at the crematorium, there's a stack of corpses, I always remember when this door was opened and Eisenhower's comment was 'this is the damdest thing I've seen in all my life' and Patton's comment was 'the dirty German sons of bitches'."
Regnier and another soldier took pictures at the direction of General Eisenhower. "He said if anybody has cameras, take all the pictures you can because I want all the world to know what we're seeing."
The scene was beyond what any decent human could imagine. "They had hunks of railroad tracks that they would lay off stacks of logs and stack bodies on these metal support bases and throw gasoline on the whole works and cremate the bodies on the ground. We saw things you just couldn't comprehend that human beings could be treated that way by fellow human beings."
Regnier and the rest of his unit left the camp in what he describes as numb silence. "When we left that, there wasn't much conversation in our convoy, you just couldn't comprehend what you had seen."
But his experience with concentration camps didn't end there. Not long after, he toured one of the last big camps liberated in the war in Ebensee, Austria. "We went through the barracks there where there would be five levels of wood bunks with just a nest of tattered rags and straw and 3,4,5 bodies in each bed. People that looked 80 years old were probably 25. It was a shocking thing to see."
Regnier still has a basement chalked full of memorabilia from the war and he shares his story with schools and other groups whenever he can. John Regnier was a witness to one of the darkest periods in history, but he's making sure today it's never forgotten.
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The Council Chambers currently fits around 100 people. That's far fewer seats than the number of people expected to share their opinions at the public hearing.
At a work session, the Council debated time limits and stopping comments too similar to previous ones. The only popular choice was limiting each speaker to three minutes. That policy could be changed by the actual meeting.
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The Pressure Is On: Undefeated Broncos Coming To SD
In case you missed it, the Broncos are now 5-0 after defeating the New England Patriots in overtime. After starting 3-0, it was believed that Denver had gotten lucky against some pretty bad teams. At 4-0, I thought that they got a good win against a Dallas team who never plays up to expectations. Now, by beating the Patriots, I blame their win streak on a little luck and just enough good football. And that could be enough to win the AFC West.
So the big question is, where does that leave the Chargers? Last year's Bronco team was just bad enough to implode and serve up the division to an average Chargers team on a silver platter. This year you can't count on a similar self-destruct sequence. That means that our Chargers, the team who has progressively gotten worse since 2006, has to step it up big time against the remaining three-quarters of their schedule. And it all starts next Monday night against Broncos.
Giving the Chargers the benefit of the doubt against the Broncos in Week 6 (and that is a HUGE benefit of the doubt), I can see the Chargers' remaining schedule playing out like this:
W/L Week Date Game
W 6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD
W 7 Oct 25 SD @ KC
W 8 Nov 01 OAK @ SD
L 9 Nov 08 SD @ NYG
L 10 Nov 15 PHI @ SD
L 11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN
W 12 Nov 29 KC @ SD
W 13 Dec 06 SD @ CLE
W 14 Dec 13 SD @ DAL (tough call, counting on the late-season surge)
W 15 Dec 20 CIN @ SD
L 16 Dec 25 SD @ TEN (physical team, even if they fall below expectations)
W 17 Jan 03 WAS @ SD (counting on the Redskins to have a new coach at this point)
That is a 10-6 record, which is pretty good. I see the Broncos remaining schedule playing out like this:
W/L Week Date Game
L 6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD
- 7 Bye
L 8 Nov 01 DEN @ BAL
L 9 Nov 09 PIT @ DEN
W 10 Nov 15 DEN @ WAS
W 11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN
L 12 Nov 26 NYG @ DEN
W 13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC
L 14 Dec 13 DEN @ IND
W 15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN
L 16 Dec 27 DEN @ PHI
W 17 Jan 03 KC @ DEN
I predict the Broncos to also finish 10-6 (believe it or not, I predicted wins/losses without trying to limit them to a 10-6 record). Obviously with a little more good luck the Broncos could pull out one more win and walk away with the division outright. But if the Broncos do end up tied with the Chargers at the end of the season, things are going to get very interesting.
The first tie-breaker is the head-to-head match-up. In our scenario here both teams go 1-1. The second tie-breaker is record within the division. Again, both teams tie with a 5-1 record. The third tie-breaker is in games against common opponents. Both teams go 8-4 in this scenario. The fourth tie-breaker is games against conference (AFC) opponents. Again, both teams tie with an 8-4 record. That would leave us to a tie-breaker based on strength of victories and then strength of schedule. And that would make the whole thing a big mess.
Let's back up and focus on this week. It all starts against the Broncos on Monday Night. Win that game and you have a chance to be champs. Lose that game and you are most likely going to end up chumps.
October 13, 2009at 1:00 PM Posted by Jeff Williams
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- Mark said... Oct 13, 2009, 1:51:00 PM
That clown of a coach (Josh Mc Daniels)is even more of a punk than Jay Cutler. I guess there is room in Denver for only one clown. And it's only a matter of time until his face morphs into that off his grumpy, old mentor- Bill Bellichek.
That fist-pump garbage at the end of the game against the Pats was hilarious. Is he a head coach, or a cheerleader trying to rally the crowd?
Anyway, the Broncos will be exposed this week against our boys, and it will only get worse for them. Chargers have their work cut out for them as well, as the schedule gets harder against those tough NFC East teams. I hope we can beat the Giants and Eagles. A long time ago I thoght those games would be a Super Bowl preview. I'm not so sure now.
The Broncos will be working off a short week, our Chargers brain trust has an extra week to prepare, and our injured players might heal. That's usually good for at least a standard "3 points" on the betting line, possibly 7. I think that will be enough to spell the margin of victory for our beloved Bolts. We can score on anybody, anytime.
Our defense has been indefensible, but if ever there was a game that played to the strengths of the "design" of our defense, this should be it. If the Bolts D blows THIS game, it's time to dust off the resumes gentlemen; and if you play like you did in Pittsburgh..., just don't come home, ever. I don't mean it in a "bad" way, just get the f*ck out!
It will be interesting to see how the betting line progresses during the week. Chargers are currently (Tuesday PM) favored by 3.5 - 4.0 points.
Denver on a short week?...the game is MNF....not really a short week!
broncos gonna win this game and the one in denver they are simply the better team broncos go 11-5 chargers going 8-8
mark is a clown mcdaniels is best coach in division like broncos are best team in division
You haven't even lost to McDaniels yet and you are this angry already? You seem way too worried when your team's supposed to be going to the Superbowl this year.
Let me give you and your friends in San Diego some food for thought:
1. The Chargers are as much of a mess as the media thought the Broncos were before this season started.
2. The Broncos have wins over the 4-1 Bengals, 3-2 Patriots, and 3-2 Cowboys. Those are three teams who are a combined 0-3 against Denver, but 10-2 against the rest of the league.
3. The teams the Chargers lost to have a combined record of 6-4. Teams they won gainst have a combined record of 3-7.
Just exactly who is going to expose who, mark???
A meeting of the mind is needed and leave the egos before entering. Coch Norv stop being so predictable. Be a head coach. You have the ofensive exp. to be sucessful. Football is like the game Chess, you are to do the oposite of what others expect to be sucessful. Players stop pointing fingers at one another during game time. it's embarssing. Close your eyes remember why you play this game and have fun. I believe in you.
Sincerely Lighting 72
There is plenty of season left. #56 should stay. He hasn't been healthy since season started. He's proven player like Breez, Turner etc. and should not be allowed to leave.(Ouch that hurts me still). Rivers please protect the pig skin. Don't waste precious seconds arguing with reaffs, people etc. You are good but can be great. I gave lakers players same this advice last year before they won championship...Brian Shaw was narrating Q and A's and I express this to the whole team. Tomlinson needs go out and play like Ricky Williams. Don't think and do what you do baby! Nothing matters but right now.
Lighting 72
Let's mix it up out there. Remember when# 21 and Cool Breeze were running the ofense. We have so many options. Let's keep them guessing. Screen pass to Gates, Tolbert, Sproles, etc. Hand off to Vincent, Bennett Hesterd Run behind Louis Vasquez..Luis Should be Left OL to protect Rivers and open lanes for Tomlinson. Remeber "El que se enjoa pierde"...Who gets mad looses. We are warriors who strike lighting fast.
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Rivera you are the man. Defense...How do you feel ..Mean Mean...Agile..Highly Motivated ..Deticated ...HAAAH #42 Step it up ...lets see some flash ....Gordon. Cromartie tackle them fools MMA style. Like my wrestling days wrap up them ankles. Vaughn M. let use your Jamacian bull streangth move that pile back words...95 keep taking ...my man. Cooper English don't eat before game and pretend Orton is big juicy steak. Give that dog a BONE...Yeah boyz...
Peace and Love My Fellow Chargers...Let be classie out there.
Sincerely Lighting 72
Is this a drinking game? Mr. Lighting 72, meet Mr. Dictionary.
Ok Mark, take you clown concept and shove it, the only clown on ths server is you.... Anyways, The praise Mcdaniels showed at the end of the game was highly beneficial to the team and the fans. Yes coaches can have fun too.... Mark. Football is a team sport, so why not have fun doing it? Grumpy old Turner should probably take a lesson from Mcdaniels. Chargers are playing soft and for something they dont know what to believe in. Theres new life here at Invesco field, nobody is going to take that from us. To the Bronco nation, GIVE THEM BOLTS HELL".......
Hey Mark, so, you're saying that Tiger Woods, and Venus Williams are cheerleaders too? It is a sign of victory, so I want you to look for one at the end of the game on Monday. And the clown comment, maybe you should scrape off your make up before you make any comments.
Have a great loos this Monday.
- Mark said... Oct 19, 2009, 7:38:00 AM
I knew I would get a rise out of the Bronco fans after I mocked McDaniels in my previous post. IMAO, the PLAYERS not some idiot coach should be doing the fist pumping.
And what the Bronco's fans don't understand is that a head coach needs to act with a certain sense of composure given that this is barely just a third of the season. Roger Godell doesn't give out the Lombardi Torphy to the best 5-0 team. I am curious to see if the Bronco's win tonight what he will do next- pee his pants?! We'll at least if that happens he will make the field at Qualcomm a little greener but............AIN'T GONNNA HAPPEN!!
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I was just daydreaming a little while ago, and I thought, what if all the Giants pass-rushing greats were the same age?
Imagine the following players, if they were all of prime playing age today, in the nascar package:
Ignoring things like "Could Taylor and Carson play in a 4-3" and such, just imagine seeing that front seven coming at you. I think that would be the most devastating pass rush ever conceived.I don't think even slants could work against that.


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Had one hive come through winter with a large , grapefruit size cluster. I fed from late March to middle of May; by this time this hive was occupying 2 mediums full of bees.
Well, late May early June, I opened them up and found 5 or 6 swarm cells. I rearranged the brood nest, added another super , in the third spot of 4 , and tore down the swarm cells. It seemed to work, as the bees did not swarm.
The hive though, is slow to be building up now. The brood pattern is marginal; though I found several frames of capped brood ( appx 30 % covered mediums ) and 50 or open cells of larvae, and a fat cordovan colored queen ???
Is this normal after disrupting a hive swarming ?? Mabye this queen is poor now; its her second year, and should I pinch now and go on ?


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Hetch Hetchy Environmental Debates
Between 1908 and 1913, America witnessed its first national debate over environmental preservation when the growing city of San Francisco, California proposed building a dam in the Hetch Hetchy Valley to provide a steady water supply. The Hetch Hetchy Valley was within Yosemite National Park, however, and protected by the federal government. It was therefore up to Congress to decide the fate of the valley. National opinion divided over the question of whether San Francisco should have the right to dam the valley, or if the land should be preserved from development
At the heart of the debate was the conflict between conservationists, who held that the environment should be used in a conscientious manner to benefit society, and preservationists, who believed that nature should be protected, saved from human interference. Siding with the conservationists, San Francisco citizens argued that the reservoir was necessary for the health of their city. On the other side, preservationists, led by John Muir, argued that Congress should protect the Hetch Hetchy Valley from destruction. Muir and his allies believed that nature should be enjoyed for its beauty, and not merely used for its resources.
Hundreds of individuals and organizations from across the country submitted petitions to Congress regarding the valley. These petitions, some of which are included below, bear witness to the birth of environmental activism as citizens weighed in, expressing multiple opinions about the proper use of National Park land and the relationship between local interests and national values.
In the end, Congress passed legislation that enabled the creation of a dam in the Hetch Hetchy Valley. President Woodrow Wilson signed the bill into law on December 19, 1913. Although the preservationists lost this battle, the damming of the Hetch Hetchy Valley raised public awareness about the importance of preserving nature, and helped justify the creation of the National Park Service in 1916.
H.R. 7207, The Raker Bill, August 5, 1913
Resolution from the Graffort Club of Portsmouth, New Hampshire Against Granting San Francisco the Hetch Hetchy Valley, February 4, 1910
Petition from the Hypatia Women's Club of San Francisco Supporting Granting San Francisco Water Rights to Lake Eleanor and Hetch Hetchy, February 2, 1910
Protest Against Diversion of Waters from Lands Requiring Irrigation from Citizens of Merced and Stanislaus Counties, California, May 30, 1913
Petition from the American Scenic and Historic Preservation Society Against the Raker Bill, June 25, 1913
Petition from the Society for the Preservation of National Parks Against Granting San Francisco the Hetch Hetchy Valley, June 27, 1913
Petition from the Widows and Orphans and Mutual Aid Associations, Inc. of the San Francisco Fire Department Supporting the Raker Bill, November 24, 1913
Telegram from the Executive Board of the San Francisco District of the California Federation of Women's Clubs Supporting the Raker Bill, December 2, 1913
Petition from the University of Oklahoma Against the So-Called Hetch Hetchy Bill (H.R. 7207) December, 1913
Resolution by the Massachusetts State Federation of Women's Clubs Against the Raker Bill, November 25, 1913
Resolution from the Augusta, Hallowell, and Gardner Central Labor Union of Maine in Favor of the Raker Bill, December, 1913
Telegram from the San Francisco Council No. 615, Knights of Columbus Supporting the Raker Bill, December 2, 1913
Petition from San Francisco Swedish Clubs Supporting the Raker Bill, December, 1913
San Francisco Examiner Petition to the Senate of the United States Supporting the Raker Bill, December, 1913
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The upcoming Louisiana Crossroads concert at Central School Arts and Humanities Center featuring Zachary Richard will be broadcast live on public radio KRVS, FM 88.7, and worldwide through krvs.org. (Special to the American Press)
Last Modified: Thursday, April 04, 2013 11:45 AM
By Cliff Seiber / American Press
Zachary Richard is first and foremost a musician, but he uses his music and writing to help in the preservation of the French language and culture in North America.
The Lafayette native will be presented in a concert, "Zachary Richard — An Acadian Homecoming," Wednesday, April 10, in Lake Charles. It will be the final concert of the 13th season of the Louisiana Crossroads Series, sponsored by the city of Lake Charles.
The concert will be broadcast live on public radio KRVS, FM 88.7, and worldwide through krvs.org.
Richard grew up in Scott speaking French, but he developed much of his career in French-speaking Canada, beginning with rock music inspired by the likes of the Beatles, Rolling Stones and others.
"By a series of happy coincidences my music has been influenced by the French language," he said in a telephone interview last week.
He performed several times in Lake Charles in the 1980s and mid-90s, he said. He was featured in a McNeese Banners Series/Louisiana Crossroads program in 2010.
In recent years, his work has been mostly in Canada and touring Europe, but he returns home to Southwest Louisiana primarily to promote his new album, "Le Fou."
"The title means 'the crazy,' but it is also a nickname for the northern gannet, a seabird that splits its time between Québec and Louisiana, just like me," he said. The first bird to be cleaned of crude oil leaked in the Deepwater Horizon catastrophe was a northern gannet, "enough to make you crazy," he said.
His first exposure to music was in church, he said.
"I learned music, and I learned to appreciate music in the bishop's boys' choir in Lafayette," he said. He wrote songs while a student at Tulane University, where he graduated summa cum laude in 1970. He continued the work in New York after college. In his early days, he went door to door asking questions about the history of Cajun and zydeco music.
One old-timer "told me to play for the head to make the audience think, to the heart to make them feel and to the feet to make them dance," he said. With that in mind, he urged visitors at the Lake Charles concert to wear comfortable shoes, because "we'll make you want to dance."
"I have always tried to make my music spiritual, and it has been a source of solace when I'm down."
One of those "down" times came in 2010, when Richard suffered a stroke. He wasn't long in recovery, however.
"I'm walking, talking and crawling on my belly like a reptile," he joked. "I was lucky to have good friends around me to keep me going."
Through Friday, Richard is making available for free download an unreleased single, "Bonsoir, Bonsoir," from the "Le Fou" sessions. The link is www.zacharyrichard.com. The English translation of the lyrics is found on the website.
"The song was inspired by the disruption of a family caused by the persecution country folk suffered in the wave of vigilantism that swept the country in the mid-19th century," he said. The same theme was portrayed in the film "Belizaire the Cajun" in 1986.
In addition to his songwriting and performing, Richard has authored three collections of French poetry, four illustrated books of fables and "Histoire des Acadiennes et des Acadiens de la Louisiane," a book with color photographs intended for French immersion students.
"I have also written poetry in English, but none of it has been published," he said.


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David Diaz, associate director of employee relations, (left) presents a letter from
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Leadership Award: Cassandra Porter
(April 20, 2005)--Cassandra Porter, UTSA inventory department manager, will be honored with the Leadership Award, one of five presented April 28 at the UTSA Staff Excellence and Service Awards ceremony.
In the second of five award spotlights that will be featured on UTSA Today, the Leadership Award recognizes a supervisory staff member who has promoted department and university goals through actions and job performance, demonstrated exceptional leadership ability, fostered a positive and motivating work environment, maintained open communication within the department and throughout UTSA, encouraged professional development, demonstrated fairness in resolving work-related issues and receptivity to feedback regarding personal job performance.
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The five Staff Excellence Awards recognize excellent work performance in emerging leadership, dynamic leadership, teamwork, extraordinary initiative and overall excellence. The awards are: Rising Star Award, Leadership Award, Team Spirit Award, Extra Mile Award and Order of the Roadrunner Award. One hundred nominations were submitted; one hundred twenty-three employees were nominated.
Cassandra Porter
Leadership Award winner
As supervisor of the inventory department, Cassandra Porter has produced outstanding results in the accountability and reporting of movable assets at UTSA. Strong organizational, communication and management skills and the implementation of effective training classes for inventory contact persons have helped her department reduce UTSA inventory loss to less than 1 percent.
Porter is dedicated to improving her managerial ability. She regularly attends supervisor training and self-development classes offered by UTSA and other organizations, sharing her newly learned skills and management techniques with department staff. She has worked hard to improve visibility and communication between her department and other offices. Under Porter's leadership, inventory staff members make the most of every interaction.
Porter works with each employee to establish mutual goals and enhance their career development. According to a nominator, she solicits participation from her staff and is open to new ideas and feedback. A considerate, morale-boosting supervisor, she is sure to remember birthdays with greeting cards, balloons and cake. For the holidays, she plans potluck lunches for the inventory and surplus departments. She takes time to call department members on sick leave to let them know they are missed.
Porter's exceptional management and communication abilities personify the Office of the Vice President for Business Affairs motto, "In all we do, we do with excellence."
UTSA employees are invited to attend the event hosted by Guy Bailey, UTSA provost and executive vice president, Rosalie Ambrosino, UTSA vice president for student affairs, and Richard Lewis, special assistant to the president, at 2:30 p.m., Thursday, April 28, in the University Center Retama Auditorium (2.01.02) on the 1604 Campus. The ceremony will include remarks by UTSA President Ricardo Romo.
Downtown Campus and Institute of Texan Cultures staff members can attend the event utilizing VIA bus 94 at no charge by showing their UTSACard.
The ceremony will include retiree recognition, service pin awards for 5-30 years and refreshments. Thirty-three staff members will be honored on their retirements and 219 staff members will receive UT System service awards for the 2004 calendar year.
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A couple of thoughts...
1. With the exception of a couple of hives in her most remote yards (which are a bit "feisty"), both Michael Bush and myself have had the same experience...if the hives are smoked properly (and I'm not talking about a smokeout with a giant AHB smoker...a couple of puffs in the entrance, under the cover, and as needed) and worked like any unknown bees, they are completely manageable. The exceptions are a few hives in _really_ remote places.
2. Ray, note that those videos were in April, before any kind of major "flow".
3. Dee's bees were considered a separate population _before_ AHB moved into Arizona...documented as having a higher rate of thelytoky (high enough to be able to produce it on demand).
4. AHB are supposed to swarm, not fill 5 deeps.
5. There are a lot of good reasons to keep feisty colonies in the desert. Lots of hungry illegals in the area, not uncommon to find a box tumbled and a few frames missing. All this area is open rangeland for cattle. It's a daily sight to see cattle with cactus hainging off their mouths or any other parts...hives are a pretty handy scratching post (except for the bees).
It is really the lack of smoke that makes these videos so "dramatic"...Dee's way of keeping the nurse bees on the brood for making splits. It's often remarked that this isn't necessary by other beekeepers (other beekeepers who are always thrilled to be told that what they are doing isn't necessary)...but Dee's bees are a bit runny on the comb, it may well work better than anything else. Can you argue with the results?
Sometimes the lights all shining on me
Other times I can barely see. -The Grateful Dead
I'm curious, how do the AHB influenced bees of Florida compare to the AHB influenced bees of Arizona? I've experienced the Arizona ones firsthand and wonder if the same behavior is seen in Florida.
Regards, Barry
Here's a link to the thesis I referred to:
I wouldn't be surprised if some of the same behaviors were present.
Regardless, should we really refer to the bees that came up positive in Florida, using morphometrics, as AHB?
WLC - that is my point. They are obvious separate populations. As far as someone mentioning bees with African traits not filling 3 deeps - don't believe that for a minute! Some of the removals I have done have filled 4 deeps prior to my re-queening them. They reproduce so fast it only takes about a month or so. The swarming comes from the high reproductive rate and the space available. A 4 deep hive of them makes for a lot of unpredictable runny bees, but they also drag in a ton of honey because they forage for things the average domestic bees don't. The domestic bees like sweeter nectar. These feral bees are totally awesome in that regard.
NM desert/mountain beekeeper - Black Mesa Honeybees.
>1. With the exception of a couple of hives in her most remote yards (which are a bit "feisty"), both Michael Bush and myself have had the same experience...if the hives are smoked properly (and I'm not talking about a smokeout with a giant AHB smoker...a couple of puffs in the entrance, under the cover, and as needed) and worked like any unknown bees, they are completely manageable. The exceptions are a few hives in _really_ remote places.
Agreed. They still follow further than I would want, but they are not attacking en mass even when Dee is tearing through a yard with no smoke and throwing boxes around. The meanest bees I've seen are usually F1 crosses with AMM or F1 crosses with AHB. I've seen a lot of bees in a lot of places that are supposed to be 100% Africanized such as the Virgin Islands, Florida, Arizona etc. and never found bees as mean as some of those AMM or some supposed EHB from Texas...
Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 42y 40h 39yTF
I really respect Dee, but she can be pretty rough with her girls. Time is money I guess.
NM desert/mountain beekeeper - Black Mesa Honeybees.
As and where particular African traits have conferred an advantage at the expense of older subspecies/mutts those genetic components will have remained in the population - perhaps been accentuated. As and where they haven't conferred any advantage they will have diminished.
In different places different combinations of African and local bees will have resulted in good survival and reproduction levels. Natural selection will have, and will continue, to bring to the fore those genes that best suit the current environment - according to the bottom-line rule: most effective conversion of available energy sources into viable offspring. Its nothing but good old straightforward natural selection for the fittest strains. Where the fittest individuals are locally adapted older strains the African gentic components make little headway.
'Africanized' has little scientific meaning beyond 'having an unspecified Scutella genetic component'.
To anyone who thinks otherwise, try asking this question: where does the line lie? Does a single genetic component make a bee 'Africanized'? Two. Nine? A thousand? That question is unanswerable, and that demonstrates the problem.
It would be a good idea to try to talk in ways that avoid the crazy oversimplification 'Africanized' represents. US feral bees are locally adapted mongrels that draw on whatever genetic component work best regardless of their origins. In each generation the fitter combinations supply the greater proportion of the next, perpetuating those individual genes.
Mike (UK)
The race isn't always to the swift, nor the fight to the strong, but that's the way to bet
West Palm Beach, FL
Zone 10a; Elevation 13 feet
Yeah, I always wonder why people who aren't interested in treatment free beekeeping styles want to voice their opinions on treatment free stuff.
NM desert/mountain beekeeper - Black Mesa Honeybees.
_You_ can't control (male side) parentage because you're outgunned. Others can. Every site is different.
The important thing is to know what makes a difference, and how to go about making use of it. Not worrying about it will, in most cases, lead to failure. You say your neighbour does lots of removals - that could well be a good sign...
Apart from natural cell sizing, what other things do you do by way of control? Where did you source your bees? How long has treatment-free worked for you?
Mike (UK)
The race isn't always to the swift, nor the fight to the strong, but that's the way to bet
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The race isn't always to the swift, nor the fight to the strong, but that's the way to bet
One difference might be that in those isolated beeyards the beekeepers are heavily protected and the bees find it difficult to set many stingers. As we've seen in Dee's videos they're going hard for a target...in one case the camera. But what happens if those same bees begin to set stingers in flesh...in quantity. Once the air is filled with those pheromones does the colony's behavior ratchet up?
Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. - Emerson
Don't be afraid of it. It's not like there is one single trait that allows bees to survive treatment-free and that every queen who mates outside your genepool loses that trait. That's not how it works. His bees are dying just like yours will. You just have a bit of a stiffer final exam.
To some degree neighbour's treated bees will have an undesirable effect. Acting to counter that effect will increase the chances of success.
In the beginning a lot depends on the source of the bees. Are they likely to possess any mite management traits at all? What makes you think so?
In subsequent generations much will depend on any feral population. If you have survivors around your chances of success are much greater. If you don't you will improve your chances by acting firmly and quickly to raise resistance traits and push them into the local breeding pool. You should do that anyway. Maximise your chances by taking particular steps - bringing in bees likely to be resistant to some degree, making rapid increase to protect yourself against losses, and making those increases informed by mite-resistance evaluations.
I'd make the working assumption: I have to breed well or will likely fail. Then work hard at finding out how best to go about it.
Mike (UK)
The race isn't always to the swift, nor the fight to the strong, but that's the way to bet
I don't think any of that applies to Solomon and his success because his neighbour is a commercial queen breeder whose drones hugely outnumber Solomon's.
Could it be something else?
Michael Bush has a different view.
"Thinking Inside The Box"
I don't know what all the rest of you have experienced, but with no treatments (on large cell size) I lost all my bees whenever I wouldn't treat for a couple of years. But finally I lost them even after treating with Apistan. It was obvious that the mites had built resistance. I've heard of big outfits losing their entire operation WHILE treating with Apistan or CheckMite. So we have reached the point where whether you treat or not, they all die anyway quite often. I think the problem here comes down to us not wanting to "do nothing". We want to attack the problem and so we do whatever the experts tell us because we are desperate. But what they are telling us is failing anyway. Once I lost them all AFTER I treated them, I could no longer see any reason to treat them. Treating only perpetuates the problem. It breeds bees that can't survive whatever you are treating for, contaminates the comb and upsets the whole balance of the hive......http://www.bushfarms.com/beesfoursimplesteps.htm
let him labor, working with his hands, that he may have something to give him who has need.." Ephesians 4:28


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CWC Democrats to elect officers, hear from attorney general
Attorney General Lori Swanson will be the keynote speaker at the Crow Wing County DFL annual Convention at 10 a.m. Saturday, April 20, at the Brainerd Public Library.
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Challenging budget times at the lab
Original post made by Tim Hunt, Castlewood, on May 14, 2013
The lab, which during Cold War times, enjoyed consistently growing budgets (and payroll) because its employees were doing work critical to national security. When the Berlin Wall came down and the Soviet Union imploded, some elements of the core mission changed although it still centered on maintaining nuclear weapons as a deterrent.
The lab had been managed by the University of California since its founding, but thanks to truly poor management controls at its sister and the original nuclear lab in Los Alamos, NM, the management contracts for both facilities were put out to bid. UC correctly determined that it could not retain its management without private sector collaborators and ended up winning both management contracts with new partners. That shifted the culture from a non-profit university to a for-profit joint venture.
For Livermore, that resulted in substantial layoffs in the first year of the contract when the operators realized they had missed badly on the budget projections. Legal actions are still pending some those layoffs.
Fast forward to 2013 and the lab is dealing with the sequester legislation that supposedly nobody in Washington D.C. thought would take effect, but has. Instead of the across-the-board cuts, lab management has decided to sharply reduce its career workforce with an eye to the future.
Incidentally, the UC organizations are the only ones I have encountered that have a category known as "career employee"—meaning that unless you screw up really badly, you will have a job until you decide to retire. In the UC days, that meant a wonderful defined benefit retirement that climbed with inflation plus medical care. For retirees, that shifted big time when the new organization dramatically altered the retirees' health care. It was clearly detrimental to retired employees and a retired employees group is still litigating that change.
Now, the lab has announced voluntary retirement program, with the incentive of up to 26 weeks of pay based upon years of service (one for one). The goal is reducing its career work force by up to 600 employees to prepare for the federal budget year 2014.
Parney Albright, the first non-home grown director, announced the plan to try and get ahead of the challenges that likely will face the lab with the new budget year starting Oct. 1. A cut of 600 employees from the 5,100 "career employees" would equal a nearly 12 percent reduction. Overall, about 6,500 people work at Livermore.
The budget challenges, which are affecting every federally funded agency, come on the heels of the lab's statement that the National Ignition Facility has not achieved fusion in 2012. The $3.5 billion laser facility has been touted as demonstrating fusion to provide limitless cheap power as well as being critical to both the understanding of basic physics and to ensure that the nuclear weapons complex is still a reliable deterrent despite being without testing since the early 1990s.
The new reality for the ignition facility as a national experimental site resulted in the lab adding a second key executive to that program who is responsible for coordinating its use with non-Livermore groups.
Like it or not, it is another new day for the lab.
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on May 14, 2013 at 8:26 am
cosmic-charlie is a registered user.
Don't I know it well!
Many years ago, the career employee was know as an "FTE" or Full Time Employee. And as an FTE, I was very concerned with the retirement structure and the promises made that went along with it.
At the time, with 10 years of service, I quit, out of those concerns, and found a better deal with Stanford (SLAC).
In the Stanford system, employee contributions of 10% or more, was matched in kind up to the 1st 10%, by Stanford.
This was an income reduction tax benefit, and was in real terms, a measurable entity. It was tangible, and real. Very different from some promise.
Bottom line? With 28 years of service to SLAC, my retirement began at the earliest moment to access all of the accumulated funds without early penalties.
With the promise the Lab made, my employment would had to have continued for an additional 6 1/2 years more until age 65 in order to have an equivalent stake, had I not changed jobs.
In addition, health care is a lifetime benefit thru SLAC, just as it was promised at the Lab so many years ago. The difference is, with the Lab moving into a hybrid partnership and away from the UC system, Stanford remains a private entity and BTW, is fully funded, whereas the Lab can modify any deal they want, for any reason, to maintain the bottom line. Hence big time lawsuits we are now seeing.
I maintain promises made should be kept, especially for loyal service over the long haul. If I were near retirement at the Lab, as I would soon be if not for the job change, there would be a great deal of concern about my retirement.
Remember, Lab employees historically did not contribute to Social Security (same as Federal Employees), so all of the eggs were in one basket as it were, and seemed, to this former Lab FTE, too risky to trust in a promise.
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- 1-1/2 cups sugar
- 1-1/2 cups butter, softened
- 2 large eggs
- 2 tablespoons vanilla extract
- 4 cups all-purpose flour
- 1 teaspoon salt
- 1 teaspoon baking soda
- 1 teaspoon cream of tartar
- 1-1/2 cups confectioners' sugar
- 3 tablespoons butter, softened
- 1 tablespoon vanilla extract
- 1 tablespoon milk
- Food coloring, optional
- Colored sugar
- In a bowl, combine sugar and butter; beat until creamy. Add eggs and vanilla; beat well. Stir together dry ingredients; gradually add to creamed mixture until completely blended. Chill for 30 minutes.
- Preheat oven to 350°. On a lightly floured surface, roll dough to a 1/4-in. thickness. Cut with holiday cutters dipped in flour. Using a floured spatula, transfer cookies to ungreased baking sheets. Bake 10-12 minutes. Cool on wire racks.
For frosting, combine sugar, butter, vanilla and milk; beat until creamy. Thin with additional milk to desired spreading consistency if necessary. Add a few drops of food coloring if desired. Spread frosting over cookies and decorate with colored sugar.
Freeze option: Freeze undecorated cookies, layered between waxed paper, in freezer containers. To use, thaw and decorate as desired. Yield: 7 dozen (2-1/2-in. cookies).
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Enjoy this recipe with a sweet white wine such as Moscato or a sweet Riesling.
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"Very tasty cookie. I made the dough two nights ago and made the cookies today. It was very easy to work with. However, some of the cookies seemed to lose their shape during baking. I had some very bloated-looking candy canes! The frosting was also delicious, my only issue was that I doubled the frosting recipe and there still wasn't enough to frost all of my cookies, and we went light."
"I put the dough in the fridge for 24 hours...I panicked when I took it out the fridge & it was super hard. threw in the microwave for a few seconds..voila...perfect...these were delicious!!! had to triple the icing recipe...."
"Simply put, these are the Best tasting sugar cookies I have ever made. I about panicked when I thought I lost the recipe. They taste wonderful with a buttercream frosting or sandwiched with seedless raspberry jam and a glazed top."
"I first made these cookies for the first time this past Christmas and then I made them again for Valentine's day to take as treats for work.This is hands down one of the best cookie recipes around. I was looking for a recipe that could compete with one my mom has that uses Crisco . My goal was to find a recipe that uses butter that is easy to work with and has a similar taste to the one my mom uses. A bite of these cookies is like a little bite of heaven. When rolled out a little thicker they are a little crunchy on the bottom, but very soft as well. My coworkers went nuts over these cookies. They said they were the best sugar cookie they ever tasted. One of them said these cookies taste like happy childhood memories. The dough is super easy to work with and it smells so good while you're working with it. I used my own buttercream frosting recipe instead of the one provided and I've been using home made vanilla extract and using double what the recipe calls for. You can't go wrong with this one."
"Best sugar cookies ever!!"
"I made these today for Christmas. I thought the dough was very easy to work with. I did not use the frosting recipe provided, so I can't rate that. However the cookies were excellent. They have a light buttery flavor with a hint of vanilla. Very tasty and not overwhelming on any one flavor. I will make these again for sure."
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Nov 29, 2012 at 6:39 am #1296565
So I took my new caldera cone set up on a 4-nighter last weekend. First of all…it was certainly fun to play with. I tried the wood burning and the alcohol set ups and they were both quite easy.
How in the heck do you light the 12-10 stove?? I pour the alcohol in the big hole in the middle, but I can't reach the alcohol inside with my mini bic without burning myself. I felt like such an idiot! There has to be an easier way, so I'm subjecting myself to the deserved ridicule….Nov 29, 2012 at 6:46 am #1931903
James ReillySpectator
@zippymoroccoLocale: Montana
If you pour alcohol in the ring around the bottom it will prime then catch the middle. Good luck!Nov 29, 2012 at 6:47 am #1931904
Chris PeichelMember
@momoLocale: Eureka
Just dribble a small amount of alcohol across the top of the stove and let some run down the side to the base of the stove. Light the alcohol on the side/base of the stove, the flame will find its way and doing so helps to prime the stove. The heat generated on the outside of the stove primes the stove(starts to vaporize the alcohol inside the stove) and help it get going faster.Nov 29, 2012 at 7:14 am #1931909
I use a fire starter like the Light My Fire Swedish Fire Steel. When used correctly, it will produce a shower of sparks that will fall down inside your stove. Plus, it keeps your hands away from the flame and I think it is way more reliable than a Bic Lighter. My 2 cents – Jon.Nov 29, 2012 at 7:16 am #1931910
Eric MoeMember
@ericmoeLocale: Washington
I use the LMF too. 1 strike and WHOOF.Nov 29, 2012 at 7:18 am #1931911
Ben CBPL Member
@alexdrewreedLocale: Kentucky
I agree with the above posters. Sometimes, especially when its cold, its just hard to light anyway. I have heard some use their body to warm their alcohol before lighting. I have had success dipping a leaf stem or twig in my alcohol, lighting the twig, and then placing the twig into the alcohol. It keeps the flame off your fingers a little better.Nov 29, 2012 at 7:30 am #1931914
Exactly what I was looking for ;)Nov 29, 2012 at 7:36 am #1931915
Paul WagnerBPL Member
@balzaccomLocale: Wine Country
And I think you can tell, Jennifer, that we've all been there!Nov 29, 2012 at 7:55 am #1931921
I played around with it in my kitchen to see how much fuel if would take (roughly…) to boil different amounts of water, and I had no trouble lighting it. But I was using a nice heavy loooong lighter that I use for my grill and for candles, and it was certainly much warmer in my house than it was in the woods ;)
Field conditions were a tad different!!!
I'm terribly intrigued by the fire steels I must say….those things look dangerously awesomeNov 29, 2012 at 7:56 am #1931922
maria noblesMember
@hilltacklerLocale: the valley
you can also, dip a very thin twig or leaf stem in the alcohol and then light the stick on fire and put it near your stove…it works too.Nov 29, 2012 at 8:07 am #1931927
Dribbling external fuel on the 12-10 stove to "prime it" is wasteful, except for winter conditions where there's too little vapor coming off the fuel to light it directly. Even then, priming doesn't do much to actually heat the fuel because of the double wall design, so it's inefficient. This stove doesn't normally require priming like some other pop can designs do, so it's more efficient and safer to light the fuel inside and let things heat up that way if it's too cold to start cooking right away.
So how to light the fuel inside the stove? Grab the nearest sprig, twig, grass blade or pine needle and dunk the tip in the fuel. Then light the twig and use it as a match to light the stove. As long as it's not too windy, this works excellently.
If it is windy, any lighting method is tricky and you'll have to work inside the confines of the windscreen or get out of the wind (best).
"I'm terribly intrigued by the fire steels I must say….those things look dangerously awesome."
They are very cool – a great backup fire source for sure. If you use one with an alcohol stove just make sure you are using it correctly. Pull the fire steel away from the stove, don't run the sparker down the firesteel towards the stove, or you'll inevitably hit the stove and spill fuel everywhere.
Also be aware that a fire steel stops being an effectively alcohol lighting method when the temps get cool. From about 20-40F using a lighter and twig works fine, but a firesteel starts to perform poorly below 40F in my experience as there is less vapor coming off the fuel for the sparks to ignite.
It does depend on what fuel you're using too. Ethanol lights easier than methanol at cold temps (due to flash point, vapor pressure etc). Ethanol is also about 20% more fuel efficient. Some 'green' denatured spirits (95% ethanol, 5% methanol) is usually the best way to go in America.Nov 29, 2012 at 8:33 am #1931929
Most common trick is to keep the fuel warm (warm the fuel bottle up with your hands, put it in your pocket). You can also warm up the stove the same way. BTW, some people leave their fuel in their tent to keep it warmer, but I am not a big fan of that idea. Another trick is that after you put your fuel in your stove; swirl the fuel to "wet" more of the surfaces and that will increase your vaporization rate. Just looking at the "numbers", methanol has a lower boiling point that ethanol so using HEET (in the yellow bottle) should be easier to light than S-L-X. This is just a theory and has not been tested. Below freezing, I may have had to strike my firesteel more than once, but I have always been able to get it lit. Best regards – JonNov 29, 2012 at 8:35 am #1931930
Richard CullipSpectator
@richardcullipLocale: San Diego County
I use a match to light my alcohol stove. I'v e got a mini Bic lighter as backup fire starter but I like the simplicity of a match. One per meal isn't much of a weight burden.Nov 29, 2012 at 8:36 am #1931932
Diane PinkersBPL Member
@dipinkLocale: Western Washington
I'm a real wuss when it comes to fire. Holding my lighter near the primer pan makes the flame aim dangerously close to my fingers. Hiking in the PNW, twigs and stuff are often wet and hard to light. I keep a couple of birthday candles in my cooking kit, use the lighter to light the candle, then use the candle to light the fuel in the primer pan. That way, I also have some tinder/fire starter for emergency fire lighting as well.
Doesn't using a fire wheel that scatters sparks everywhere make it risky to light in dry conditions? The whole spark thing just sounds really uncontrolled. I guess if folks are being diligent and clear a sufficient area of ground of duff and litter, it would be ok, but I'm not confident in most of the public's care in camping–have seen way too many idiots in the woods. Present company excepted, of course.Nov 29, 2012 at 8:50 am #1931935
Safety. To light an alcohol stove, you ignite the vapors and not the liquid. At room temperatures, the vaporization rate can be pretty high. When lighting an alcohol stove, you can create a pretty good ball of flame (short duration, but pretty good sized). Anyone every fill and light a stove while the body of the stove was still hot? You'll make one big fireball. Fire steel keeps your hands away from the flame and reduces the chance that you'll burn the hairs off the back of your hand. Additionally, when an alcohol stove is lit, a lot of people tend to jerk their hand away (the pop of the rapid ignition, the heat from the flame). With a lighter or match, you have a greater chance of tipping over your stove.
In term of excess sparks landing on the ground, the area around your stove is supposed to be clear of debris and flammable material. Additionally, I recommend and use an aluminum heat shield to protect the ground from spills and sparks.Nov 29, 2012 at 11:11 am #1931962
"Just looking at the "numbers", methanol has a lower boiling point that ethanol so using HEET (in the yellow bottle) should be easier to light than S-L-X."
You're right. My mistake. Methanol (C1H3OH) is easier to light in cold temps than ethanol (C2H5OH), although I still quite prefer the latter for it's significantly better energy density.
As a digression, as you increase the number of carbons (ie. C3H7OH for isopropanol) the energy density goes up (since carbon is a larger portion of total weight), but so does the flash point making them harder to light. Isopropanol is a poor choice because it smokes, but Butanol (C4H9OH) is super energy dense and supposedly burns quite cleanly (youtube). Beyond that, the flash points start to get pretty high (ie. Pentanol C5H10OH is 49 C, while ethanol is 13C and butanol is 29C) so my hopes are on butanol for significantly reducing carried fuel weight.
I can't test out butanol since no one ships to Canada, but someone in the USA should grab a bottle for $20. I've been preaching this for a year now.
"Hiking in the PNW, twigs and stuff are often wet and hard to light."
If dipped in alcohol for 2 seconds, even a wet twig will easily light.Nov 29, 2012 at 11:18 am #1931964
Nico .BPL Member
@nickbLocale: Los Padres National Forest
I'm not impressed so far with my firesteel and the effort it takes to get a fire going with it, so I typically either dribble a couple of drops on the outside of the stove and light those drops with my lighter or just simply drop a lit match into the stove.
I carry my denatured alcohol in repurposed contact solution bottles (small travel size for 1-3 night trips, next size up for longer trips, etc.). This makes it really easy to dribble a couple of drops on the outside of the stove in a controlled manner. Also makes it easy to aim a good stream of fuel into the stove if you need to refill mid-boil.Nov 29, 2012 at 11:23 am #1931966
Greg MihalikBPL Member
@greg23Locale: Colorado
"Also makes it easy to aim a good stream of fuel into the stove if you need to refill mid-boil."
I want to see the video….Nov 29, 2012 at 2:11 pm #1931992
Franco DarioliBPL Member
@francoLocale: Tarptent
"Also makes it easy to aim a good stream of fuel into the stove if you need to refill mid-boil."
NEVER attempt to do that.
Here is what I do.
I put way more fuel than I need so that the level is high enough to light with my Bic .
When done (IE the water is hot enough or I have a boil) I snuff the flame with a snuffer made from al foil.
(just shape a thick foil, or double a thinner type, over the stove)
Then I let the stove cool down, only takes a minute, turn the snuffer upside down and return the excess fuel into the fuel container.
This way I don't have to start the stove twice so I don't waste fuel.
In low temps I use a thin strand from my cotton ball Vaseline impregnated fire starter I put that at the edge of the stove , light it and then drop that in the stove.
It works every time.Nov 29, 2012 at 4:25 pm #1932017
Paul AshtonMember
@pda123Locale: Eastern Mass
Would be a really bad choice for almost all alcohol burners used by hikers. It would be even more smokey than Isopropanol, which is only effective in stoves specifically designed to use isopropanol. The problem is that the longer the carbon chain (butanol 4, methanol 1) the greater the amount of oxygen needed per gram of fuel burned to get complete combustion (blue flame, no soot). With Butanol you are approaching the proerties of white gas, and needs similar burners to make use of it (e.g. Primus, SVEA, MSR Whisperlite) . Such stoves vapourise the fuel before ignition, and induce massive turbulence at the point of ignition to ensure mixing with sufficient air to get a clean burn. "trangia" type stoves cannot do this.BTW, white gas or kerosene will be a lot less expensive than Butanol, as well as being more readily available.Nov 29, 2012 at 4:36 pm #1932018
BTW, I have built a passive white gas stove that burns without soot. It didn't generate soot but smelled awful. The prototype had a long time to boil but I am sure that it could be sped up. The problem is 1) white gas is not as safe as DA and 2) it is hard to pick up small quantities while on the trail: I don't think that an 8 to 12 ounce bottle of white gas exists. Stick with alcohol. My 2 cents -JonNov 29, 2012 at 7:16 pm #1932038
"[butanol] would be a really bad choice for almost all alcohol burners used by hikers. It would be even more smokey than Isopropanol…"
Have you actually tried burning butanol? From what I've read, there are additional reasons why isopropanol happens to be abnormally smokey and butanol can actually burn cleaner than ethanol while being less corrosive and 20% more energy dense (36 MG/gram vs 30.5 MJ/g). Obviously you'd need more oxygen, but butanol also seems to have a built in inhibition against forming carbon monoxide and other noxious fumes. This isn't really backpacking stoves, but a car running on pure butanol will have far lower carbon monoxide and noxious emissions versus a car running on pure ethanol.
I've spoken with the Chief Technical Officer for Green Biologics ltd (company R&D'ing bio-butanol) and he said that if you put butanol in a dish and light it, it burns really cleanly just like that. I might be able to get a hold of some butanol at the chemistry lab at my university.Nov 29, 2012 at 7:42 pm #1932042
Franco DarioliBPL Member
@francoLocale: Tarptent
"This isn't really backpacking stoves'
So why introduce the idea here and make something that is REALLY simple so complicated.
At home, Australia, I go to the supermarket buy 1L of Ethanol and off I go…
Over there (that is the US) I went to REI (I think some are familiar with those shops) bought some SLX and off I went.
No I did not die of gas poisoning burning that stuff but at times I felt a bit odd from car fumes at the traffic lights, same at the airports waiting for take off.Nov 29, 2012 at 9:26 pm #1932061
Mary DBPL Member
@hikinggrannyLocale: Gateway to Columbia River Gorge
I do want to respond to Jennifer's subject line. There is no such thing as a stupid/embarrassing question. The only stupid questions are those you don't ask!
I do own an alcohol stove, but somehow every time I pack for a trip, I always grab my canister stove instead. At least for me, it's much more convenient. Definitely a YMMV thing!
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I purchased a 4' x 8' sheet of 2" thick Dow Corning Foam Board. What is the best way to cut this foam to get a nice edge? I am going to place this under the telescoping cover and above the inner cover on each of my hives.
I purchased a 4' x 8' sheet of 2" thick Dow Corning Foam Board. What is the best way to cut this foam to get a nice edge? I am going to place this under the telescoping cover and above the inner cover on each of my hives.
Because of the thickness its hard to get a straight square cut doing it with a long sharp knife like I do, but I don't see why you couldn't cut it on a table saw to get a better cut, or maybe a hand held jigsaw or circular saw. John
I use a hot wire. An electric fence wire and battery charger work good. This may not be worth it if you just have a little to do. Table saw does work also just not as clean of an edge.
Table saw works great, fast and easy.
Dan Hayden 5 Years. 10 hives. Tx Free. USDA Zone 5b.
Table saw with a carbide tipped finishing blade makes a very clean cut.
Keep your hand on the piece next the fence, cause the blade can catch it and make a nasty gaouge in it.
Zone 3b. If you always do what you always did, you'll always get what you always got!
How deep is the edge of your covers?
Trying to think inside the box...
The telescoping covers are the Mann Lake units. Probably about a 2" edge. I am going to place the insulation on the inner cover, then wrap the hive with 15 lb. felt/tar paper and fold it over the top of the foam. Then I will place the telescoping cover over that.
We had a home builder in the office and he suggested a circular saw with the blade installed backwards.
Caution advised! You really need to control both pieces and preferable use a splitter. I had a chunk suck onto the blade of a table saw and pieces shattered and flew all over. You would not think the blade could get hold of it so!
My POS jigsaw won't cut a square edge on wood worth a darn but it goes through EPS board like butter.
If you're cutting a lot of it though, want a nice edge, don't have a saw already, then here's the way to go that doesn't require storage space. This is the cheap version mind you
I used my table saw for the exact same application and it worked fabulously.
What are you using as a moisture board?
Last year I used a hand held jigsaw. Worked nice, clean cut. Somewhat messy, but better then the other method I tried, which was a utility knife. I haven't tried a table saw.
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I cut some a week or two ago with a cheap handsaw from Home Depot. It was a lot easier than what I tried last year with a big knife. Also I noticed that the foam was scored at 16 and 32 inches in the long direction which made things even easier.
We cut A LOT of this type of insulation when we built our house.
1. Use a long metal straight edge and a carpet knife with a SHARP/NEW blade.
2. Score the insulation as deeply as you can.
3. Place your sheet of insulation so your weight is on the main part of the sheet.
4. Let the part you want to remove hang over the edge of something - a saw horse, a table edge, etc.
5. Use a 2x4 to put pressure on the edge you want to remove until it breaks along the score.
Ta dah!
PS - We didn't have luck with a table saw or a circular saw - too dangerous, too.
Utility knife or a carpet knife will work as described but it is a broken edge. This edge could be squared off by using a sanding block with coarse sandpaper. This is a bit messy.
As mentioned before a hot wire does make the best cut because it seals the edge. Getting the current in the wire and the wire feet rate takes a little practice to get the best cut.
When I was building cardboard airplanes I cut a lot of this foam for the ribs of the wings and actually built a pentagraph for the application. I was lucky enough to get my hands on some nitenel wire for the cutting blade which is an exotic metal that worked perfect.
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Most online RC hobby supply places will have it. Inconel is commonly used but you probably could get away with stainless steel as you would not need a long length exposed. I have cut wing cores for RC planes as Acebird mentions and was cutting 30 inches deep so the inconel can be stretched tighter in that case. The wire needs to be somewhat shy of visibly red so you have to play with resistances and power supply depending on your wire size.
I have cut lots of foam on the table saw and sure got a surprise when I got violent results. Thanks Blueribboncookies. I will still cut it on the table saw but not without a long splitter to be certain neither the sheet or the off cut can move sideways against the side of the blade.
Table saw works perfectly.
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