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Five Lathe Projects You Can Build
I'll give you fair warning—woodworking lathes are addictive. Although they appear daunting to first-time users, lathes are fun and can be used to create a wide range of projects. Lathes are commonly used for small projects such as bowls, platters, even pens, as well as furniture parts and cabinetry. Several techniques are used, with two basic turning methods, spindle turning and faceplate turning. The five projects included use both methods as well as duplicate turning, and something quite different.
A number of manufacturers make lathes. They range from small to super-size heavy-duty models. The lathe shown is a Craftsman Professional 15-inch, variable speed model. It's a mid-range size, but well designed with cast iron construction for heavy-duty work. Features include a one-horsepower motor to provide plenty of power. The motor maintains full power even at the slowest speed. The headstock swivels 90 degrees allowing for 20-inch outboard turning. A 24-index stop at 15-degree intervals allows you to use the lathe for router fluting and beading. The lathe has a 37-inch maximum spindle length and 15-inch inside bowl-turning capacity. The lathe comes with a 6- and 12-inch tool rest, spur center, bearing center, 4-inch faceplate and lathe center removal rod. In addition, we added accessories including the Craftsman Bowl-Turning Kit and Craftsman scroll chucks, as well as a work arbor with chuck and key.
You will also need turning woods, which you may be able to purchase locally. Turning blanks are also available from a number of mail-order sources. Packard Woodworks carries all types of turning supplies from tools to wood to finishes.
Editor's Note: The instructions in this article are for specific woodworking projects. All blueprints are at the end of this article. If you're new to lathe work and want to learn the basics, check out "A Lesson in Lathes" by Monte Burch at www.extremehowto.com.
Turned Stone Candle Holder
Of course you can't turn stone on a wood lathe, but with today's "textured" spray paints such as Rustoleum MultiColor Textured Spray Paint you can easily simulate a stone "sculptured column." The candle holder shown was turned from scraps of red cedar. Any scrap materials you have will work, but softer woods that turn easier and don't show the grain are the best choice. The turning combines both spindle and face-plate turning.
Draw diagonal lines across the ends to locate the centers. Using a fine-toothed handsaw, make cuts in one end following the diagonal lines to about 1/16-inch deep. Tap the spur center into the slots. The first step is to enlarge the squared drawing and create a pattern for the spindle portion. You can speed up the rough-in by cutting the corners off the stock on a table saw set at 45 degrees. Rough cut the stock to round with a gouge chisel. Use a straight skew chisel to smooth up and create a straight-sided cylinder.
Locate the beads and mark their locations on the block with a pencil. Turn on the lathe and add more to the pencil marks for easy definition. Use a spear-point chisel to rough-cut the beads and finish the beads with a skew chisel. Sand the turning smooth in the lathe with progressively finer grits of sandpaper cut into strips. Part the stock from the lathe with a parting tool to about 1/2-inch and finish cutting off with a fine-toothed handsaw.
Cut a 3-by-3-inch square block of 3/4-inch stock for the base. Mark diagonally from corner to corner to establish the center and use a compass to mark the circumference of the base. Mount the stock on a faceplate with screws. Turn the base to round, and cut the decorative edge on it. Sand smooth.
You can leave the candlestick as is, or you can flute it with a fluting bit in a plunge router and using a hand-made fluting cradle set on the lathe bed rails. The fluting shown on this project was done with the Legacy Revo milling machine, which is extremely simple and precise. The machine has an indexing head and a tail and headstock to hold the work piece between centers. Cut the top sections on a bandsaw. Fasten all pieces together with glue and apply the textured finish.
Pepper Mill
A pepper mill is a fun, practical and challenging turning project that makes a great Christmas present. The grinding mechanisms are available from several sources, including Packard Woodworks. The mechanisms are available in several sizes, and come with full instructions for turning the mill and installing the mechanism.
This is basic spindle turning with a few added challenges. Spindle profile turning is the simplest and a great way to learn how to turn wood on a lathe. Start with a small spindle and a soft to medium-dense wood. Walnut is a good choice. A good size is a 2-1/2-by-2-1/2-by-12-inch turning block. Enlarge the squared drawing located at the end of this article and create a pattern. The mill body is turned between centers. Rough cut to round using a gouge chisel and then use a skew chisel to smooth the cuts. Use a gouge and skew to complete the profile.
A portion of the top end must be turned down to 1-1/2 inches and will then be placed in a four-jaw chuck for boring the holes in the body. Once the body has been turned and sanded, apply a finish while still in the lathe. Apply a coat of salad bowl finish, allow to dry, buff with extremely fine steel wool and apply a second coat. Or, you can use polyurethane varnish. Once the second coat is dry, buff with a soft cloth.
Place the body in the chuck, remove the tailstock and use a work arbor chuck with a forstner bit. Position the bit in place and turning at slow speed, use the tailstock to bore a 1-5/8-inch hole in the end. Then bore a one-inch hole as deep as you can into the body. Reverse the body and bore the top end 1-5/8 inches for the cap tenon. Then bore the hole in the body to complete the through-body hole. Use a fine-toothed handsaw or bandsaw to cut off the waste. Or, you can simply turn the body and use a drill-press to bore the holes. Make sure the stock is positioned perfectly parallel to the drill by clamping with a large c-clamp.
Turn the cap with a tenon on its end to fit in the recess in the top of the body. Assemble the mill mechanism and mill according to the manufacturer's instructions.


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text: As I've shared with you all in the past, I have a high tech sales job and getting outside really helps me clear my head and focus on various things I have. I also love wood processing. Harvesting my firewood with vintage tools. I recently saw a video where the guy was felling a tree with a cross cut saw. In order to make it easier for him, he used a branch in the ground, tied with paracord to his saw to create tension and create the reverse pull action. I thought I would try that out this past weekend. Armed with my trusty axe (WardsMaster Doublebit), my Woodchuck timberjack, (this thing proves itself everytime I take it out for bind free bucking), and my 1 Man Crosscut saw from Traditional Woodworker that Treeline tuned and sharpened for me, I set out to a nearby wildlife area about 15 minutes from my house. Pretty lucky to have this so close. The shot above shows my Woodchuck Timberjack easily holding this 15" or so log up in the air ready for bind free bucking. I have started the cut with my saw and as it was resting in the kerf, I attached red 550 cord to it, found a nearby oak branch, used my axe to sharpen one end and pounded it into the ground and attached the 550 to each end. He is another shot from behind the saw with the paracord attached to it. Treeline has taught me to remove all bark before sawing to keep my teeth sharp on my saw longer. Thanks, Treeline!! It worked "okay" as it had warmed up a bit and the branch I had pounded about a foot or so down was moving toward me through the mud. So after about halfway through the log, it was just helping to start the reverse pull of the saw away from me. After a few minutes we had success. You guys know that I'm also Italian and us Italians love to see our pasta our "noodles" in this case. So here are the noodles from this evolution. You can see some rather long ones. Sorry, not the best picture. Thanks for looking..


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McDonald's to revamp Happy Meals because you're too dumb to watch what your kid eats
posted at 7:59 pm on July 26, 2011 by Allahpundit
Fair headline? Well, until now, when ordering a Happy Meal you had a choice between the traditional burger and fries and a more nutritious but-mom-I-don't-want-that burger with apple slices. But it turns out most of you were choosing "poorly."
And so your choice had to be taken away.
McDonald's on Tuesday said that it would add apple slices and reduce the portion of French fries in its children's meal boxes beginning this fall, effectively taking away consumers' current choice between either having apples with caramel dip or fries as a Happy Meal side…
Critics wasted no time complaining that McDonald's changes don't go far enough. Kelle Louaillier, executive director of a group called Corporate Accountability International, said McDonald's is just trying to get ahead of impending regulations that will restrict the marketing of junk food to children and require restaurants to post nutrition information on menus, among other changes…
Cindy Goody, McDonald's senior director of nutrition, said that the new directives are "absolutely not" related to new regulations. Rather, she said, they're a response to customers asking for healthier choices.
But apparently, customers aren't making those choices in practice. Indeed, only about 11 percent of customers were ordering apples with their Happy Meals, even though 88 percent were aware they had the option, the restaurant said…
"The key is, will this get parents to go to McDonald's one more time each month than they would have otherwise?" said Marek, whose company helps restaurants forecast whether new programs will drive sales.
In fact, per the article, they already offer leaner, healthier Happy Meals for calorie-conscious parents. The McNuggets meal features apples and contains just slightly more than half the calories of the traditional meal, in case the thought of your child splurging every few weeks on a little bag of fries is too much to bear. How you reconcile that fact with the theory that pushing healthier kids' meals is somehow bound to increase McDonald's business, I have no idea. Any parent who frets enough about their little one's caloric intake to care whether apples are being swapped for fries is probably already ordering the healthier Happy Meal for them. And if you're taking your kid to McD's every two weeks, say, you could get the same effect as the new menu change by ordering the traditional meal one visit and then a healthier one the next. See how easy it is to improve your child's health, even sans regulations or outright prohibitions, if you're barely sentient and paying the slightest bit of attention to what they're doing and eating?
But then, McDonald's isn't doing this to attract customers. They're doing it to reduce the hassles from pains in the ass like this. In fact, I'm tempted to say this creates an opening for Burger King to produce tasty yet fatty fare for parents who want to treat the younglings to a splurge — but guess what. Exit quotation from the White House's unofficial food czar: "I've always said that everyone has a role to play in making America healthier, and these are positive steps toward the goal of solving the problem of childhood obesity."
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that aint gonna happen at giants stadium.
im telling u guys from personal knowledge, it really is a big deal. even some denver players were taking oxygen on the sidelines. u could literally see the balt. d players gasping like they were boxers out of stamina with their mouths opened and eyes dreary. esp with how denver attacked them the 2nd half running more plays...no one seems to be recognizing that and just bowing to the alter of peyton, who had a tremendous game, but given the circumstances, i think we need to take a small step back and not hold him in this unbeatable pedastal bc honestly, that isnt gonna be a big a factor as it was opening night. once teams get game ready and conditioned, it wont be as big a deal.
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That potato trick is not a "dumb" idea it is just a bad idea (terrible idea actually) but it is easy to understand how someone could be mislead into believing it and I certainly would not considered anyone dumb for doing that, BUT common sense should keep anyone from holding burned eyes over a hot stove or a torch near a burn. The more I think about this the more convinced I am that it is a joke, at least I hope it is a joke!
I was watching Orange County Choppers yesterday.
I was real surprised to see they way they use a mig.
Several times during the show, a few of the different guys were welding with a mig with no helmet. Either with just sun glasses or no eye protection at all, they would line up the welder then look away and/or close there eyes when they pulled the trigger.
Seems pretty stupid to me and a bad example for the young and inexperienced watchers who may pick up a habit like that.
I know the show is really kind of staged. But I kind of think that this really is common practice for these guys. You would think they would have learned the hard way by now.
I'd like to thank SuthnCustoms for mentioning the thing about using reading glasses. I have a helmet I got from Cummins Tools, probably the same thing from Harbor Freight. I think I'll take the hood to a welding supply place and check out a corrective lens. I don't do a lot of welding, but I don't want to take any chances either! I've never had an eye burn thing, but I've heard welders talking about it. Seems to me a visit to the doctor or emergency room would be a wise move regardless of the degree of the injury, not only to get checked out, but it's your best shot at getting some pain relief.
You are right those shows are staged and really nothing short of just plain phony, I never bother to watch them anymore. As far as blind tacking with a MIG people do that all the time and I have been guilty of it myself but the fact is it is a dumb thing to do for a couple of reasons, not the least of which is the welder is just guessing at what he is doing. It may not be as dangerous as it first seems because no one actually looks at the arc (not after they have done it a couple of times anyway ) and the only UV exposure they get is a very short flash to any exposed skin on the head and neck, which is bad enough but not likely to cause much of a problem if only done occasionally. Having said that I will add that it is still a DUMB trick and is usually done because the welder is just simply too dang lazy to put his helmet on just to do a couple of small tacks, why those guys on tv do it is beyond me. Bottom line is DON'T DO THAT!! just like grinding without safety glasses, or worse using a cutting torch without them, sooner or later it is bound to get you.
the only reason the TV guys weld without a helmet, is so they can be seen on TV ! Kind like firemen going in a burning building on TV with out their faces covered with gear !.........as far as the stove burner thing, I didn't say it was a good idea
I tack stuff like that all the time. I learned to do it a long time before OCC ever existed.
It is not lazy, or an ego boosting attempt at getting my face on camera. It is just faster to hold the part with one hand and tack it in place. Sometimes there is no clamp that will do the job anyway, and if you are as anti social as me, you rarely have someone around to hold the part..
So you tack a bunch of little pieces together then put your helmet on do the final welding. I do have an auto darken that I use alot, but usually the undarkened vision is so dark that you can't see the finer stuff. I do like my 1.25 power magnifying inserts alot...it's time for some 1.50 though...
Do a whole bunch of fabrication in and on cars and motorcycles and it will become second nature.
I have never gotten flashburn from doing that.
I can hear the tack being done correctly with my MIG. I still need my helmet to tack stuff with my TIG though, but I am getting better at holding a part AND the rod with one hand and the torch with the other.
If it is all fitted up nice a quick fuse can be made and no rod is needed.
Sometimes I tack stuff with my MIG, then do the final welding with the TIG.
Here is a set of handlebars I made the other day..About 18 pieces in all, only a few of the larger ones could be held in the fixture I made to build them.
And no one was there to see me do it.
Eat crap OCC.
later, mikey
my signature lines...not really directed at anyone in particular..
BE different....ACT normal.
No one is completely useless..They can always be used as a bad example
LOL, That was one of the shows I actually tried to watch and it would have been interesting without all the non-sense.
As far as blind tacking I probably have made a million of them with a stick welder by holding the welding rod between my fingers (With welding gloves!) to form a shield a few inches from the tip of the rod thus providing protection from the arc rays, still can't see what I am doing but like you said after a while it becomes second nature. Also have you tried the little shield attachment that clamps to the MIG gun that has a dark lens? It is kind of clumsy but there was a couple of times I managed to make some otherwise nearly impossible welds using one because of cramped space limiting room for a regular helmet. This thing does eliminate the problem of direct UV exposure when someone just turns their head or closes their eyes, this can cause problems over time if done often enough.
nice finish on the handlebars! OK, I admit it ! I also do some tack welding without a helmet, some places you just can't get your head in with a helmet on..Also I think welding with a TIG makes a nice looking (and strong) weld. I use to weld irrigation pipe, priority then was that they had to look nice. Wish I had one of those machines now !
I wind up having to weld stuff in places that I can barely fit my torch..I do have a set of gas welders goggles, fitted it with a # 10 lense. I can get in all kinds of tight places with that setup. I have even just taken a lense, and held it over the welding area, so I could watch what I was doing.
I have been practicing welding by mirror too, that's hard.
Later, mikey
my signature lines...not really directed at anyone in particular..
BE different....ACT normal.
No one is completely useless..They can always be used as a bad example
Burned eyes
potato juice works a little
you got any co-cain
poor it in a bowel mate ,and put your head ,
oh , that was crock Mick Dundee's .cure for sinus .
you need drops at the eye doctor .
have you fellow burners ever burnt your finger tips and grab your bottom ear lobe?
it draws the burn out , old pot head trick .
what you have done is got a sun burn and now the outer layer of eye skin is drying up and pealing .
ouch it hurts like hell .
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place it under your bottom sheet at the foot of the bed .
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Oh man! Memories hahaha! Back when I was like a freshman in high school, I was workin for a place that fabricated custom semi trailers. Well, one day I was weldin crossmembers inside of an enclosed trailer, and since it was so dark in there I just couldnt use the mask, so as smart as I was, I was welding at a high voltage with no protection, just starin at the arc. Well, I thought it would be ok, but about six hours later, my eyes started to itch real bad. Big deal, right? But later that night, I woke up in seriously the WORST PAIN EVER! I tried the potato crap, I tried the wet towels, and nothin worked. I ended up spending the entire night rubbing my eyes as hard as I could with a washcloth just to subside it cuz everytime i blinked it felt like my eyelids were lined with 30 grit sandpaper. And when I went to school the next day I was pretty much blind and all my teachers kept sendin me to the office cuz they thought I was on hardcore drugs! Eventually it went away and I still have 20/20 vision, but the lesson is, just try to avoid the situation altogether and where your mask when your welding or torching, nomatter how long youve been doin it, cuz none of those remedies work like they are supposed to lol!
Without a doubt that is the most difficult welding I have ever had to do. There was one particular job I had to do occasionally that required using a mirror for about 4 hours and no kidding for the next day or so afterward I would have difficulty welding the normal way!
normally I'd read the whole thread to see if someone covered my thoughts already but after two pages my eyes feel like the have arc flash. first of all let me start off saying I weld everyday so in other areas I might not know so much but with this I know alot. out of 7 years of welding I've only experience arc flash maybe 2-3 times. you should be able to weld without getting arc flash. also it is your responsibility, you the welder, to make sure no one around you gets arc flash. only weld with equipment that is in proper working condition, welding hood with no light leaks,no cracks,etc. stingers without damaged insulators , you get the point there are stupid things that can cause flash just because of equip. thats in poor condition. wear gloves, long sleeve cotton or leather, no polyester or plastics, welding sleeves work too. or if your really hot sunblock on your arms, though this is a bad combo with sweat oil and filings from a cutoff saw sticking to your arm. do not wear a white t shirt half the time people get flashed or rocked eyes its because of a white or light colored shirt reflecting the light to the inside of your lens burning your face and eyes and they don't even know thats what caused it. you can also use a hood bib. I have welded with no shirt barefooted, not very smart, a red hot ball between your toes is learning the hard way, which reminds me if you weld over head or under a car or whatever wear ear plugs because its not fun to hear the wax in your ear sizzle . if you have a auto hood which most everyone does make sure the lens covers are clean a dirty lens can block the light sensors resulting in getting flashed. becareful welding in odd positions with a auto hood it can turn off in the weld light gets blocked from the sensors
( usually the reasoned I get flashed). wear glasses chipping slag, hot slag in your eye can result in blindness. I wear safety glasses under my hood unless its cold and they fog up. here is what to do if you do get flashed, I have heard potatoes work, in welding class that was actually home work, to put slices on your eyes for twenty min. and write a paper on how they feel after. I did not do it though. I found what works best for me is drops I got which are actually called eye lubricant, but visene helps also. second if you can get out of the light go to a dark room or wear your #5's. I saw something about milk some where on here, I don't think milk is for your eyes, I've heard to drink a bunch of milk if you accidently breath in galv smoke, which is very dangerous amongst other very toxic fumes assosiated with welding, another thing you should know about before you weld on something. another misnomer I have seen alot.. a guy cutting grinding all day with out glasses and at the end of the day complaining about arc flash when he really got dirt or filings in his eyes. getting metal drilled out of your eye is no fun, I always wear glasses even if I have to stop to find them because I misplace them which happens. bottom line if your eyes really bother you you should go to the doc..urgent care.. er whatever. your eyes are valuable I trip out on how people get into a rush without glasses on think about it what would you do if you were blind and think of all of the blind people that don't have a choice WEAR EYE PROTECTION, prevent flash. your eye is one of the fastest healing parts on your body, if they bother you for more then a day see a doc, there something wrong. if you cut your finger off would you tape it back on with a band aid?[IMG]
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I do not disagree with anything you said and you have good advice there however I would like to add a couple of things.
[QUOTE=mike's hotrods]. "if you have a auto hood which most everyone does make sure the lens covers are clean a dirty lens can block the light sensors resulting in getting flashed. becareful welding in odd positions with a auto hood it can turn off in the weld light gets blocked from the sensors."
Just for the record those hoods offer full UV protection even in the lightened phase and although it is a bit uncomfortable you will NOT get a flash burn from those things failing to go dark. Back when they first came on the scene there was quite a bit of concern about this but as the Jackson field rep told us "if there was ANY way you could burn your eyes from the light/rays entering that lens, dark or light, the product liability and workman's comp lawyers would put us out of business PDQ!" So even if it is a bit un-nerving when one fails to darken it is nothing to be concerned about and you will not get "flashed". There are all kinds of BS urban legend type sob stories around about some poor worker who did not want to use one but had to because his employer required it and then went blind because it was faulty and did not darken fast enough , pure BS!
[QUOTE] " in welding class that was actually home work, to put slices on your eyes for twenty min."
That instructor was just plain STUPID!! and I have to wonder what other welding non-sense he taught. Also if anyone got an eye infection from doing that non-sense he probably had grounds for a good law suit against the school and that "instructor".
[QUOTE] "I saw something about milk some where on here, I don't think milk is for your eyes, I've heard to drink a bunch of milk if you accidently breath in galv smoke"
That one is another very popular old welding MYTH but this one can KILL you! Milk MIGHT offer some relief from an upset stomach but if you are sick from Zinc poisoning that upset stomach is the least of your worries! If after welding on galvanized metal you start getting sick (the upset stomach is just the first symptom) then get to a doctor fast, VERY fast! If you experience a tightness in your chest you very well may have a fatal dose (You can die from this as much as a week after exposure) and it does not take a lot to do this and I guarantee milk is not going to save you!
This is one of the stupidest myths about welding safety.
[QUOTE] "another misnomer I have seen alot.. a guy cutting grinding all day with out glasses and at the end of the day complaining about arc flash when he really got dirt or filings in his eyes."
What you are saying here is true HOWEVER it is possible to get a flash burn from a welding torch, contrary to popular belief. It is much harder to do but given enough time it will happen, faster when brazing than just cutting or welding. Like you said particles in the eyes are the worst hazard here but the solution is the same for both problems- WEAR EYE PROTECTION AT ALL TIMES!!!
re: Burned eyes
Alot of you know me by now on this forum. Well dont take any chances when welding, and i mean none. I am completely blind in my left eye, and am losing my vision fast in my right eye. I can see fair out to 8 to 12 inches, but after that its all a big blur. Im only 57 and cant drive anymore, and that took all the fun out of my love for car shows and taking my 1917 model T out for an evening drive. Please take it from me ok, its not worth not wearing a helmet it took my eyes away from me so i know. Now i have taught myself to do alot of things so i can still work in my shop, but cant build the cars you all get to build. Im still having fun now but it took some time to get over going blind. Its not easy to deal with, and i would not want to see any of you have to go though this. Wear that ***** helmet please.
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The weather alone was not enough to cause the price spike. The low stocks left the area vulnerable to sudden changes in the market, such as the weather change. Why do stocks matter in the Northeast?
Stocks are normally an important part of PADD 1 winter distillate supply. Over the last 5 years, PADD 1 stocks provided about 15% of supply during the peak winter months of January and February. They are the closest source of supply to the consumer. PADD 1 depends on about 60% of its supply from distant sources such as the Gulf Coast or imports, which can take several weeks to travel to the Northeast. Even product from East Coast refineries, if capacity is available, may take a week before it is produced and delivered to the regions needing new supply. Thus, stocks must be able to meet supply deficits for some time before much new supply can can arrive.
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Well, I have a new problem with my 2001 Hyundai XG300.I was driving on the hiway with the cruise set on. Cruising at 65mph (which is the speed limit) and suddenly it felt like someone had stepped on the brake very hard and let up just as quickly. The "check engine light came on but the car continued on as if nothing had happened. It remained in cruise mode, I'm not sure but it may have dropped from 5th to 4th. I went immediately to "AutoZone" and got the codes read. The first one was a P0720 = output speed sensor circuit and the next one was P1191 and a P1193 both of these are Fuel Metering and then the 4th code was a repeat of the first one P0720. Anyone have any idea what I can do about this and why in the hell does it need these input and output speed sensors? That was never necessary on the old cars! Is it due to EPA regs? This is another example of the over sophistication of the automobile today. You have to have all kinds of expensive equipment to figure out what is wrong in order to fix it. I called Hyundai and although I did not get a copy of it they told me that since this car came off the line it has had a quite lengthy list of work while it was under warranty. I bought it in November of 2004 and in a year and a half I have spent over $3500 and it appears it will continue to need more work. Hyundai is going to investigate for me and see if I can get this fixed due to the fact this happened once previously to me before while it was still underwarranty and they supposedly fixed it. But when I called the local service department they sounded like they were going to try to get out of working on it under warranty. Anyone out there seen this kind of problem before?
i think you need to get rid of it. buy an a new sonata or azera. better reliability.
This happened to me today, 7/8/08. I was wondering what you did to fix it?
Had same problem. Narrowed it down to 2 bearings in the throttle motor {$4 each}. You have to order it straight from manufacturer but whole lot cheaper than $905.85 for the throttle body {+ labor} from the dealership. The bearings were sticking causing all of this other mess. To confirm this is your problem do the switch on for less than 1 sec then off for 20 sec's trick and watch throttle body butterfly. If it does not open smoothly then your bearings are sticking. If this helps please share this trick on other sites. Hyundai customer services will be of no help to you. They will tell you no one has reported any similair problems and you can not order the bearings you can purchase the body as stated above. Hope this helps the next person who's car decides to go 20 miles an hour in Atlanta rush hour traffic on I75 {2hrs from home}. National Precision Bearing part# R2210X2DDR. Only catch is: unless you can get your local bearing company to order from this company you will have a $50 min. order. Still cheaper than the body...
What Do You Mean By"To confirm this is your problem do the switch on for less than 1 sec then off for 20 sec's trick and watch throttle body butterfly." What Switch?Need Help ASAP My Wife Drives This Car.
I haven't met that kind of a problem before. But try to check if the Vehicle Speed Sensor that your Hyundai is still functioning very well. Or if not, try to monitor your car's speed by yourself but it will give you much more danger.
That happened to my XG300 around 2 years ago on a highway...low mileage...but this car's biggest problem is always something electrical...weird stuff like radio going on by itself...lights going on...etc.can live with that, but I took it to a transmission place because my mechanic said it was some sensor...less than 100 to fix and no problem until recently...Now my speedometer is out and ABS light is on at inappropriate times...told it is the VSS speedometer sensor...which costs 55+ plus install still waiting...also parts not easy to get http://forums.motortrend.com/_siteconfigs/_global/images/community/bbcode/crazy.gifGreat car...when it works...but the electrical stuff is a killer.


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With Andre Smith's Stock Falling, Do The Chargers Consider Him At 16?
As one of the most decorated and dominating offensive linemen in the entire country the past three years, it was almost a no-brainer that Andre Smith would declare for the NFL and fore go his senior year at Alabama. The Outland Trophy winner entered the weekend as one of the top 3 offensive tackles in the draft, and a potential top 15 pick overall. But instead of cementing his place among the best prospects available, Smith is raising some serious question marks about his intelligence, weight issues, and overall commitment to the game. Red flags such as these are devastating for an offensive linemen expecting to become a top pick come April. So should the San Diego Chargers use this as an opportunity to draft a player previously thought to be out of reach, or would the team be better off going in another direction?
There's no denying that Andre Smith has the tools to become a dominating tackle in the NFL, particularity in a power running offense where he'd do his best work as a blocker. Smith, a massive tackle at 332lbs, has remarkable quickness for his size, and could player either right or left tackle. Smith can be a punishing blocker when he wants to be and will serve up q pancake or two during games. He's never missed a game due to injury and has been projected as high as the second overall pick.
But with the good, comes the bad;
Andre Smith was suspended for the Sugar Bowl, his final game as a collegiate player, for improper dealings with an agent. Smith described the suspension was due to a "bad decision" on his part. Since he isn't a senior, he obviously could play in the Senior Bowl, so the NFL Scouting Combine is the first chance NFL Scouts have had to check Smith out. Smith showed up at the Combine this weekend but choose not to participate in workouts. After a press conference where he didn't come off particularly impressive, Smith decided to leave Indianapolis completely, explaining that he'd only been "down at API for like three weeks, four weeks at the most."
The decision not to participate, he explained, was due to the fact that he had only recently signed with an agent. Without an agent, players can't enroll in pre-draft training facilities and programs. Andre Smith seemed relieved to be sitting at 332lbs, down from 345lbs, but for all intents and purposed he felt he was not in top shape, and that working out at the combine could could a misrepresentation of his true athleticism.
Smith took it upon himself to schedule a 6am flight out of Indy, and flew back home to Alabama. Not only would Smith not compete in drills or workouts, he would also not be available for meetings with NFL teams. The news of Smith's premature departure sent shockwaves throughout the NFL community, but an explanation would eventually follow:
"I got done in Indianapolis what I thought I should have, but I realize there was more to it now. It was important for me to get back to my trainer and that's what I did. All I was thinking about was what it would take to get to the next level."
"If I had the chance to do it all over, I wouldn't have handled it the way I did. I should have told my group leader that I was leaving, and I didn't. I didn't mean to ruffle any feathers or step on any toes. I didn't mean to grandstand anyone at the combine. That was not my intention at all, and I apologize for my mistake."
So weighting both sides of the argument, do you think the San Diego Chargers should strongly consider Andre Smith if he were available at pick number 16, or should the team take the next best tackle? If the Chargers were dead-set on taking an offensive tackle in the first round, would they be better off reaching for a guy with a low first/early second round grade, or should they roll the dice on the player many considered to be the next Orlando Pace? Give your take in the comments below, I'm eager to know what you'd do as GM:
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I think Andre is too talented to let pass up. Marcus McNeill also had some question marks and he slipped to the second round because of them. Worked out pretty well for us I'd say!
AJ has shown that he uses a player's body of work as his top reason for drafting a player. If Andre's available at #16, he's ours. I personally feel a DT is the teams' most pressing need. Not only to replace Igor but also for the fact that a good pass rush makes your secondary look a lot better.
We should draft Smith no doubt if he's there OR we take Maualuga over Moreno (if he's there)
I'm not really sure about Moreno since the RB class is very deep, would rather trade up to acquire a 2nd rounder and then draft Jackson
very good point about getting him at 16. I think him not playing in Alabama most important game of the season hurts. he could very well do something stupid for him not to play in the the super bowl and then where will we be? same spot as alabama and get blown out by utah. A solid defense player is where is see them going moreno would be nice but with denver two or three spots a head of us i dont see that happening. Love for Okapo to be a charger next fall.
These "character" issues don't bother me. Once a college player knows he's going pro, there must be intense temptation to begin moving toward the big bucks. Especially since many of these kids grow up so poor. If the kid had been caught with drugs or been accused of an act of violence, I'd run away. But, taking some cash when you're about to become rich is common and forgivable. It doesn't tell me anything about how he'll be as a pro. If the talent is there and his college coaches approved of his work ethic, I'd take him at 16 in a heartbeat.
he disappeared at the combine, the biggest thing leading up to the draft,what makes you think he wont do that in training camp? a lot of these guys that are having legal trouble or off the field problems had the samething in college as well.
No brainer. At 16 you take him.
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We have our first upcoming backpacking trip in April 2013 in southern Illinois. It's roughly an 11 mile loop with a couple of primitive campsites at the half way mark.
This will be a new experience for most of the scouts and leaders alike.
With that in mind and trying to stay "Thrifty", I'm looking for suggested packing lists. Specific gear possibly. Just help in general. The only thing I know for sure is that we have a free with canister type stoves, a couple that will be hammocking (myself being one) and the rest are talking about doing tarp shelters as we don't have a bunch of backpacking tents.
I'm sorry to be so vague but if you need any info to try and help, feel free to ask away.
Yours in Scouting,
Kirk HarringtonNov 17, 2012 at 5:34 am #1929134
James MarcoBPL Member
@jamesdmarcoLocale: Finger Lakes
April gives you plenty of time to prepare.
Get material for tarps and make your own. Usually 10×10 is a good size for two or three scouts. Of course, all the guys will need some instruction on sewing. But straight stitching is easy. Small needles, fine poly thread, with reinforcing patches and loops for staking it down/proping it up. Alternativly, you could use a blue tarp, but these are quite heavy. Lay out space might be difficult, but accuracy is not real essential. Most of what you need in knowledge can be picked up and printed from on-line resouces.
A 0F synthetic bag is usually found for less than $50. DO NOT overly compress these. So, a larger pack for the scouts is likely needed.
Food: For one night, this is not too important. At least 1 larger 3L pot per three or four scouts. 1 cup for each scout, and, a small 3 cup K-mart grease pot works well as personal cook kits. Aluminum is just as light as Ti (or lighter) and far less expensive. Try Bassmasters, they had some cheap "tin" cups. Teen agers eat a LOT of food, as I am thinking of it. Figure enough! (Snacks, water, too)
Pads are a little more important. A CCF pad, at least a 1/2" variety, should work for spring. Cut and fold them with Duct Tape so they fit in the pack. For spring conditions, a second pad would come in handy. For a frameless pack, they can be cut & taped in a rectangle, siffening the pack suspension. A 25 cent table spoon works pretty well, picked up at the local second hand shop.
Ground cloth: this can be some simple plastic sheeting. Cit this about 3" larger than the pad. Tyvec, or PU coated silnylon is better, but more expensive.
Everyone needs a stuff sack. Loaded with extra clothes (after changing into night cloths) it makes a good pillow as well as a good organizer for food. Again, a MYOG project.
A good sized pack from Wally world will probably be the cheapest. Figure ~4500ci. Extra cloths, pads inside, generally overloading with with "goodies", etc all require space.
Rain panchos: A garbage bag works for one trip. Show them how to cut holes for the head and arms. Coming out, show them how to tie it off and use it for trash if it isn't raining. Have them bring two…
Whatever you teach the scouts about weight will probably not be important. You need to set up a demonstration. A 15 pound pack for one night, or a 35 pound pack for one night. Compare functionality, why it works, what NOT to do, also. They will likely still carry ~25 pounds, but will know better, anyway. Some will take away everything you say, so do not scrimp on clothing. Younger scouts may need more than older scouts. Explain why.
Water, washing, toilet: Bring enough, but show them how to conserve wash water (wet bandana, brushing teeth, etc.) Show them what a good kitty hole looks like. Explain why all that is important.
First Aid…well, you need a good kit…'nuff said.
Lots more…Nov 17, 2012 at 6:52 am #1929145
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Here is some nice work by our own Michael Ray. This should have you covered.
http://topshotsystems.com/Lightweight_Scouting_Dissertation.pdfNov 17, 2012 at 9:33 am #1929172
M BMember
Pretty short trip, but you have to start somewhere, so congrats for taking that step.
You can get by with almost anything for one night, and two 5-6 mile days.
If you have a local hiking club, and by local that may even mean at the state or region level, they probably have lots of older donated gear that they would be enthusiastic to lend to you.Nov 17, 2012 at 6:51 pm #1929298
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@cameronLocale: Idaho Falls
I'm guessing you want to emphasize cheapness at this point since backpacking probably isn't going to be the main activity for yours scouts.
I've done a lot of short trips with kids where the kids carried the following in a book bag.
1. Sleeping Bag
2. Jacket
3. Waterbottle
4. Poncho
That was ALL! I carried a big plastic tarp we could all sleep under and the food. Now my pack was huge but most of the kids were improvising with book bags (and they were as young as 8 years old).
Here is my variation on this system for scouts
Packs – If you have some time to shop around you can pick up a lot of very cheap external frame packs at thrift shops or flea markets. I like external frame packs for kids because you can lash bulky sleeping bags to them easily (scouts probably won't have super nice compact-able sleeping bags).
Some kids with small sleeping bags can get away with a book bag type pack. You could sew on a few loops to tie on a sleeping pad to the outside if necessary.
Sleeping Pads – Get cheap blue pads from Wal Mart or a military surplus (bulk might be even cheaper).
Tarps – If you are not too worried about the weather you could get away with some plastic tarps. I'd put cordage on them before the trip and have the bigger scouts carry them. You could also try surplus military poncho tarps with two scouts snapping a pair of ponchos together (more on that later).
Shoes – Make sure they don't all rush out and buy $100 boots they don't need! They should be fine in whatever athletic shoes they have as long as they fit right (a potential problem for growing adolescents so explain they need to check this).
Water Bottles – Gatorade bottles are cheaper then Nalgenes and work just fine.
Food – Stuff that kids can cook over a fire works well because its entertaining and minimizes the dishes you have to mess with. You could do some kind of sausage for dinner and bannuck bread for breakfast. Two hot meals and no stoves or dishes needed!
Clothing – Normal play/athletic clothes will work for an overnighter. Try to get them to use as little cotton as possible. For example wind pants or athletic shorts should be encouraged instead of jeans or BDUs. Wool socks are nice but for an overnight they should be fine with normal cotton socks. I've have them bring two extra pairs just to be safe.
Rain Gear – Frog Togs might work. Emergency ponchos are super cheap and light but won't last long. If it looks like rain and your rain gear is cheap the boys should have a change of dry clothes. You will get pretty damp if you hike all day in a poncho. I'd suggest adults have 3 or 4 emergency ponchos with them. They are light and a good insurance if a scout forgets his rain gear. Ponchos made of heavier plastic cost about $10 and are going to be more rugged and cover more of your body then emergency ponchos.
Military poncho tarps would be even more rugged and experienced scouts could use them as rain gear and shelter.Nov 17, 2012 at 8:13 pm #1929313
Yes it's a short trip but it's a start. We'll possibly have scouts ranging from 11 yrs old and up.Nov 17, 2012 at 8:45 pm #1929318
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Short is good, 11 miles will be plenty for a bunch of first timers. There will be a learning curve of figuring out how to adjust packs etc.
Edit – You don't need high end UL gear to have resonably light packs for an overnighter. Just make sure the boys don't load up on a lot of extra stuff they don't need. Watch for mom's packing way too many clothes and watch for boys wanting to bring a lot of knives, hatchets, camp saws etc.Nov 18, 2012 at 1:29 am #1929340
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Thank you for all the help and encouragement. It helps a lot.Nov 21, 2012 at 9:18 am #1930140
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As a SM, here are some "thrifty" ideas for consideration… Theme is cheap and light, especially if you have some new young boys trying to keep pack weight under 25% of their body weight…
1. Frog Toggs rainsuit (mentioned before). Very light and inexpensive (~$20 for suit). For a short trip like yours, they'll certainly do and much better than ponchos.
2. Pack waterproofing. Do not spend $30+ on a pack cover. (If someone wants my $45 silnylon Sea to Summit, it's never been used!) Much better to teach the boys how to use an inexpensive pack liner. Trash compactor bags work very well, lightweight and are cheap! Gossamer Gear also sells a pack liner that is outstanding but also a bit more expensive. "Must stay dry" stuff goes inside, water bottles, cook gear, eating utensils, etc. outside. Want to keep other small stuff dry and handy in side pockets, use LokSaks or heavy duty ziplocs.
3. Water bottles. Seems like every scout wants to carry Nalgenes or aluminum bottles. Much lighter and cheaper to use Aquafina, etc. "disposable" bottles. If parents want to spend money, I recommend the collapsible Platypus bottles for space and weight savings.
4. Hiking clothes. I encourage you to have the boys use whatever nylon track pants they have or can get rather than denim jeans. Much lighter and effective against wet/cold when you add some synthetic long underwear.
5. Bowls/utensils. Discourage the traditional mess kit and encourage using plastic margarine dishes or semi-disposable Ziploc storage bowls (~$0.50/ea) and heavy plastic spoons ($0.50/ea) at Wally world.
Hope this helps!
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Kirk, here are two articles I wrote on this very subject here at BPL. Share with whomever you like. You do not have to have a subscription to read these.
What a Scout Need for Backpacking Part 1
What a Scout Needs for Backpacking Part 2
These have been very helpful for the new scouts parents i our troop.
We all thank Ryan Jordon for his generousness for allowing this.Dec 4, 2012 at 7:47 pm #1933184
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Ken already linked to the paper I wrote so feel free to ask me any questions.
Your description makes it sound like Forest Glen Preserve. Is that where you're going?Dec 6, 2012 at 8:13 am #1933554
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I strongly endorse Tad and Michael's pieces as great background/starting points for assembling gear. Our trip is mid february and I'm still gathering and figuring out what to use that we have and what I still need to buy. At this point I think the only essential item we need to buy is a pack for my 10yo newly crossed over Scout. Even then I'm considering renting one for the first trip or sucking it up and getting the REI Passage 65 which other Scouts use with success. The biggest temptation is to go hog wild with gear and I've resisted that as much as I can – he has lots of nylon sports stuff that works well enough. And the handful of things he's gotten new have been like the stuff I mostly use (since I already have it for gym use) – C9 gear from Target or workout stuff from Walmart. I think I might need to find a set of synthetic long johns given the potential temperatures mid february… otherwise he's in pretty good shape.
We are somewhat fortunate – the Troop has REI Half Domes the Scouts share and most Patrol guys have backpacking stoves of some variety – but ours is an overnight so they could easily do a no cooking plan if necessary. So pretty much he's got his pad, sleeping bag, clothes, and shared Patrol/Troop gear.
I'm more worried about myself on some level since the dads who go generally have to tote 100% of our own stuff – partly by choice (I'm happy to carry a small tent so I have one for myself rather than share with another dad – that may stop after a few longer hikes however!) – and partly because it's just how out Troop rolls – Dads are on their own by and large.
Out Troop is somewhere in the middle between really forward thinking light weight and traditional big gear approaches. Venture scouts can use a tarp/hammock, etc… if they want to… but not younger Scouts which is probably appropriate given their skill levels. It does serve as somewhat ironic that the scouts best able to carry more (the 15-16-17 yo) seem to often carry the least… we'll see if loads get balanced by age when we get ready for the first trip. Younger Scouts do often take a shorter or less strenous route when available.Jan 7, 2013 at 8:07 pm #1941672
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Here is the gear info I send to scout parents, gear for adults is the first link,
and gear for the new scouts is the link below:
http://backpackingtechnology.com/packs/scout-parents-guide-to-backpacking-gear/Jan 8, 2013 at 11:52 am #1941861
Sorry I haven't been back to this thread for a long while. Life has been shall we say hectic.
Thank you all for the input. I'll have to look into the gear lists posted.
Yours in Scouting,
Kirk "Go Go Gadget" HarringtonJan 17, 2013 at 4:31 pm #1944810
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Most of my guys hammock. All of my guys are under 13 (with two exceptions). I wouldn't put arbitrary ages on things like hammocks. It's more about experience.
For March/April is likely to be too chilly for first time hangers.
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The scars on Harold Dennis and Ciaran Madden never will heal.
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I love the little wood stand. They had two but the other one was a bit wobbly. Can't you just envision it in white chippy paint with a fabulous French graphic on top?
It's the perfect size for a stack of books!
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WOW Jeanine, you scored big and to be able to do it in peace : ) Can't wait to see what you create on & with everything. Way to go girly ~
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- May 11, 2012 at 12:29 PM
- Artsy VaVa said...
Great finds. I love the little table. I think the other wood piece is a magazine rack but it's hard to tell if the size is right for that. Keep on thrifting! You have a good eye for it!
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Great finds can't wait to see what you do with them.
the wood basket is call a clam basket.
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