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We are so proud to be the host hotel for Dr. Kanal's MRI group. Through the years, it's been such a pleasure to work with Dr. Kanal and his staff. Every attendee is amazed by Dr. Kanal's knowledge and his teaching techniques. This course is highly recommend to radiologists, neurologists, cardiologists, physicists, technologists, industry specialists, and others who seek to understand how MR imaging works and how to clinically apply it.
Below please find a small description about his course:
Since 1985, Emanuel Kanal has taught literally thousands of people the concepts underlying MR imaging physics and their clinical applications. His teaching style is informal, interactive, humorous, enthusiastic, energetic, and unique. Among the unique aspects of this course is that it takes full advantage of the graphic, interactive format of his custom developed MR tutorial and simulator software programs, which permit real-time simulation of the effects of MR image parameter manipulation on the scanned images. The course will review basic MR imaging principles, including explanations and applications of such parameters as T1, T2, T2*, proton density, TR, TE, TI, flip angle, contrast agents, relaxivity, etc.
It will review spin echo, gradient echo, and inversion recovery (including FLAIR and STIR) imaging techniques and it will lead into a number of more complex MR issues, including several hours dedicated to MR angiography, diffusion and perfusion weighted imaging, sequence optimization techniques for high relaxivity MR contrast agents, and MR spectroscopy.
Kanal is recognized as one of the most sought after MR educators in the world today; is the first to have developed, applied, and presented dynamic bolus contrast-enhanced MRA; and is the pre-eminent physician authority on MR safety issues. As is his style, Kanal will be available to answer questions and clarify concepts at and between each conference session. Participants will leave this conference with a solid understanding of complex but clinically vital MR imaging, angiography, and spectroscopy physics principles and how to apply them to routine clinical diagnostic patient care.
The Antlers is offering amazing rates for attendees of this course. For more information, a brochure is available for you: Dr. Kanal's 2013 Vail Course Brochure


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September 30, 2009
Student Government Association
September 30, 2009
I. Roll Call
Absent: Natalie Ehlers, Travis Elliott, Matt Bartholomew
II. Approval of Minutes
Move: Justin Oliver
Second: Rodney Moyer
III. Approval of Agenda
Move: Halley
New Business-homecoming goals polo's and opening of college center
Move-Mike Jimenez
Second: Angela Fioretti
IV. Guest Speaker
VI. Special Topics
Shiva Bill- Sent out save the date cards with all of the panelists and the cards went coast to coast- placed an ad in Salida Magazine with an article of Western State going green, we have added the date to the parents weekend as well. There is more information about the talk that was mailed out to 517 people who have attended the headwaters conference in the past.
There is some money from headwaters from gifts that have been given to headwaters, only the interest has been agreed to be used; however to secure that the speaker was coming- they tapped into the actual fund. They are asking for donations from community members and visitors. For students and faculty and family the talk is free. The conference is asking for more money because found out there is more money in the fund for the year.
This week please get reports from class'.
VII. Advisor Report
In regards to flue like symptoms- there is a self-identified form on line – go to the Western website and fill it out. The information will be sent to the faculty.
Progress reports will be online Monday, October 5 for transfer students- students who are on probation and freshmen.
Mid fall break is next week- be healthy and safe
Convocation deadline is the 5th and we are having a meeting on the 6th to discuss the bills proposed.
Family weekend is coming up and all of the activities are online.
October 7th 2-7 P.M. is the flue vaccine at the public health center – 20$ and health center out of flu vaccine.
VIII. Advisory Reports
Angela Watts-CCE
No Report
Jourdan Otis- Athletics Amb.
Hall of fame Banquet is Friday the October 2nd. Letter jackets day.
Jamie Hamsa- Interclub Council
No Report
Natalie Ehlers- Intramurals Director
No Report
Elijah Redding- PC Director
No Report
Trish Delong- Student Affairs
No Report
Soeil Smith- Treasurer
Budget meeting next Wednesday at 7:15 AM Advisory you need to go. It will be across the hall- going over this bill- we only have $9,000 dollars for the year and $4,500 for each semester. We have some roll over money as well that if we need to we can use.
There is $46,000 roll over if we run out of money.
Homecoming costs will not be finalized until the middle of October.
Soleil needs to have receipts for all of the little things that we spend money on (like pizza)- have Jamee and or Shelly send the receipt to Soeil.
To summarize the roll over-
We have an account that is making money from prior funds that were not used or that were given to us- these funds went into an account that is producing interest and we are using the interest as roll over.
Buck Crocket- WP
The rock 2 trip went well on the whole- climbing film last night had quite a few people- red rocks trip – mid fall break trip ($135) always cheaper than if you were to buy food and drive yourself.
Halley Parks-
No Report
Corey Vander Veen
Paint ball scenario game that is going on in the Butte (meet at 11 AM) there are brochures in the boxes please hang them on your boards. We are trying to give thank-yous to everyone who helped out with homecoming.
Matt Bartholomew
No Report
Blaine Johnson
Every senator needs to be on at least two committees. I ordered the name plates and they should get in in about three weeks. I am working on getting an adapter that works with my computer so we can use the projector for meetings.
IX. Senate Report
Travis Elliott
No Report
Reid Edwards
Past week 75-80% of business students are worried about Shiva and are concerned because the book seems to be anti business and corporation. The business departments do not want to support it and feel it is not a good use of our funds.
Erika Espinoza
Some of the classes, a majority are leaning towards no on funding the bill because it is required and it is extra credit- mainly in math classes
Stephanie White
No Report
Sarah Davenport
No Report
Eric Freson
It is important that when you are presenting a bill that you do not sway people with your personal opinions.
Justin Oliver
No Opinion
Mike Jimenez
Before SGA meetings next week he would like to have a senate meeting before the meeting at 7 o'clock so that when we have the meeting it can go a bit more smoothly. Get a large variety of opinions- personally $2,000 is ok and $3,000 he is not so ok with- make a tally of 1000 or 2000 to 3000 etc. If anyone wants to go to Keating we can get a free meal for you to get freshmen's opinions.
Rodney Moyer
Classes have not said no but not that much money- get a number-
Chris Grez
No Report
Angela Fioretti
No Report
Sarah Foster
English department- on the whole pretty excited about it. Yes.
Danielle Trogden
A lot of students have said no- because they feel that it is not a good use of money because of the required students that have to attend the speech.
X. Committee Reports
Presidents Climate Comment –Justin Oliver- Talked about the trip to ASHE conference which is a sustainability conference that Dr. Brooke Moran attended – Justin is on two sub committees policy and facilities.
Mike- sustainability coalition tomorrow at 6 in front of Kelly
Buck- Sustainability fund committee which was this week and the fund and comes out of our student fees- $50,000 ready to be spent.
XI. Unfinished Business
XII. New Business
Homecoming information -we need to get the names and numbers of people that helped out with homecoming, as well as, the folders so that everyone in the future will have the numbers and the things that will be helpful to use
Goals- at the retreat- we need to put together a goal committee that will meet and achieve our goals.- get students involved in SGA.
Punch cards for Keating so we can easily get into the dining hall and get freshmen's opinions.
Facebook page
(Mike wants to get it going)
Trish Rodney Reid Danielle are going to help)
Polo's- or Sweatshirt- for SGA to wear?
Taking it to a vote- the money will come out of the SGA fund
T-shirts for throwing out shirts at games and such.
Pay 4 sweatshirts – buy collar shirts
Pay for polo's- buy sweatshirts
200 t-shirts
Motion to Vote-Erik Friesen
Second-Rodney Moyer
Opening college center- January 11(grand opening is February 12th)
Tour of facility- Wednesday 14th at 5 at the north entrance (no open toed shoes) We will be there with the department chairs so act professional.
Keep in mind SGA parties ideas
XIII. Remarks for the Good of the Order
XIV. Late Roll Call
Absent: Matt Bartholomew Natalie Ehlers Elijah Redding
XV. Adjournment

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Advanced Rendering Extensionjpeng Jun 1, 2010 2:28 PM
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The Sexiest Roles of Angelina Jolie
We countdown this babe's hottest film moments.
If you ask any married man who would be their number one celebrity freebie hookup, more often than not the tantalizing Angelina Jolie will be on the top of his list. This gorgeous multifaceted woman is not only an accomplished actress but also has branched out as a producer, director, writer and, on the international stage, a devout humanitarian.
Born to actors Jon Voight and Marcheline Bertrand, Jolie is known for her luscious lips, rocking body and cool demeanor. While her personal life has been highly speculated about over the years, her high-profile relationships with fellow actors have always seemed to be strongly influenced by her film work.
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When shooting Gia, she reportedly told then-husband Jonny Lee Miller that she was gay, dying and wouldn't see him for weeks — an example of Jolie's preferred method of staying in character between scenes and throughout shooting. The role led Jolie to temporarily quit acting until being reinspired after enrolling in film courses at New York University.
Angelina Jolie's Breast Examination
Alongside admissions of bisexuality and a questionable relationship with her brother, who she kissed at the Oscars in 2000, Jolie's relationship with actor Billy Bob Thornton found the young Jolie wearing a vial of his blood around her neck as a sign of their passion, which further fueled a media frenzy around the sexy Oscar-winning actress.
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During this period Jolie started yet another media frenzy upon being the other woman in Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston's marriage after filming the action-romance Mr. & Mrs. Smith alongside Pitt. After eventually acknowledging their relationship, Pitt and Jolie went on to establish a combined brood of six, including three through adoption from countries Jolie had been working in for humanitarian reasons.
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I am going to watch it this weekend.
2. Wrong again. I like most of Tarantino's work. Just not this one. I think he is a very creative filmmaker.
3. Wrong again. Slave/Mandingo fighting did not exist. Not the way it was portrayed. Slavery was about money.....economics. The slave owners wanted as many slaves out there as possible working his plantation. They wouldn't risk a slave getting hurt or so physically maimed that he wouldn't be able to work. Now there were boxing/fighting exhibition done at that time with slaves fighting each other. But never to the death.
I get that Tarantino takes an artistic license and bends the truth in his films all so he can express his vision and art. But for me he went over the top with it. in this film.
Those were very compelling portrayals and probably have a fair amount of truth in them. And when its displayed in the way it was, I found it very disturbing.
So as I said, while I agree it wasn't QT's best film, it may be the one that stays with me the longest.
I thought it was good, but very over the top just like Inglorious *******s.
Thinking about it now, this was probably my least favorite QT movie. The thing I like about his films is most of the time he has a few stories going on at once that all tie in together eventually. It also felt very drawn out. It was good but could have been better imo.


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The most comprehensive facilities open to all currently registered PCC students are the Computer Resource Centers. They are located on the Cascade, Rock Creek, Southeast and Sylvania campuses. Software applications include Internet access, word processing, desktop publishing, spreadsheets, databases, web page authoring, presentations and programming languages.
While all currently enrolled PCC students are welcome, an orientation is required before using the centers.
If you need help while using a computer lab, lab assistants are available to assist you with computer applications such as Word and Excel. See the lab assistant job description if you are interested in student employment opportunities with a computer lab.
Computer Application Systems tutors are also available to aid with Office Applications, web development and other CAS assignments. Please contact your campus computer lab for more information regarding CAS, CIS & CS tutoring locations and hours of availability.
Hours of Operation
Check your campus computer lab for its exact hours. All computer labs:
- Open the first day of each term and close the Saturday of finals week
- Holiday observances and closures correspond with PCC's closures as marked on the academic calendar
Accessibility Features
Each campus maintains an inventory of accessibility equipment:
- Hardware may include adjustable desk heights to accommodate wheel chairs, large screen monitors, headphones with mics, ergonomic chairs, keyboards and mice.
- Software may include audible software, which speaks to the user as the mouse is scrolled over text, and text enlargement software.
Check your campus computer lab for specific equipment. You may also order equipment through Disability Services.
The computers in the computer labs use the GoPrint Print Manager system. Learn more about printing.
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A 19-year-old Ukiah woman is under arrest for drunk driving after her passengers an 18-year-old Calpella man was killed and a 15-year-old Redwood Valley boy was injured in a wreck on the 22000 block of East Side Road on Thursday night.
The fatality has not been identified pending notification of his family and the 15-year old was not identified due to his age. No information on the condition on the injured boy is available at this time.
The driver of the 2010 Toyota Sequoia was driving north on Willits' East Side Road between Valley Road and East Hill Road at around 7:20 p.m. on Thursday. For unknown reasons the driver, Sparrow Brown-Steele, 18, of Ukiah, made an unsafe turn and crashed the right front side of the Sequoia into a tree. This caused the Sequoia to roll over several times, ejecting the right front passenger, who was not wearing a seat belt, according to the California Highway Patrol.
The right front passenger was pronounced dead at the scene. The 15-year-old left rear passenger, who was wearing a seat belt, received a broken rib and major cuts to his face, arms and knee. He was airlifted to a hospital for treatment.
The driver Brown-Steele was uninjured. She was arrested and taken to Mendocino County Jail on suspicion of drunk driving causing injury and gross vehicular manslaughter while intoxicated.
Little Lake Fire Department responded to the accident with the rescue engine and two engines, totaling 12 firefighters. They assisted with patient care, traffic control and cleanup, according to Little Lake Fire Chief Carl Magann.
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Science-fiction drama created by Russell T Davies. Torchwood is a team of people whose job is to investigate the unusual, the strange and the extraterrestrial.
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Step up to the plate, zombie fans. Paolo Bacigalupi's new book Zombie Baseball Beatdown tells the tale of three teammates who set out to save the world from bloodthirsty corpses. TFK caught up with Bacigalupi about his writing process, favorite Halloween costume and candy, and fear of horror movies.
How does your previous work compare to Zombie Baseball Beatdown?
Most of my work has actually been for older kids, young adults and adults. It tends to be darker, and focused on ideas of environmental disaster and broken futures. People classify it as dystopian fiction normally, so Zombie Baseball Beatdown is a lot more fun than the things I normally write about. There is still a disaster in the middle of it, but there is a lot more fun and hilarity as things go along.
What was your inspiration to write a book for a younger audience?
Honestly, the starting point was that my wife is a schoolteacher, and she had some kids who weren't interested in reading. In a sort of fit of frustration she asked them what they would like to read about, and they said "zombies." And I thought, well okay, I'll write you a zombie book.
I was interested in writing something that would reach kids at their reading level, and give them something that was aimed at their interests. There are things in the book that are based off interests I have, things like food safety and questions about what it means to be an America, but at the heart of it, I wanted to write a story for kids who were convinced books had nothing to offer them. I wanted to entice kids into reading so they know there is something there for them in a story, so it's not the last book they read, but the first.
How did you decide you wanted to be a writer?
I actually didn't start thinking I wanted to be a writer until I was much older. I had graduated from college and was working as a computer programmer, and I realized the standard 9-to-5 job wasn't ideal for me. I needed something else, so I started writing on the weekends just to have some kind of creative escape from what I was doing during my day job. Over time, that habit slowly developed into a passion, then an obsession, and then a determination to actually write full-time.
Without giving too much away, tell us about the plot.
The story is about three boys on a baseball team, Miguel, Rabi, and Joe, who have to fight back the zombie apocalypse with their baseball bats and their teamwork skills. In the beginning of the story, the boys are out practicing in a local park by a meatpacking plant, and there's this horrible smell coming out of the plant. They suspect something is very, very wrong. They start to investigate the smell, and as they do, they run across zombies, and then they run across even more zombies, and that's when things really get out of control.
It's also about kids who are all very different. One of the boys, Rabi, is an Indian American kid. He's growing up in this small town in Iowa trying to figure out how he fits into an American identity. Miguel's family comes from Mexico and he's also trying to figure out where he fits in. I started thinking about identity a lot when writing this story. It turns out, whether you came here legally or illegally, or whether your skin is white or brown or whatever, the important thing is that you can pick up a baseball bat and fight the zombies. We do better when we work together across our differences.
Do you relate to any of these characters personally?
I relate to all of them in different ways. Rabi is modeled on my son—my son is half-Indian as well, and he's also growing up in a small town in rural America. It's very interesting to see him going through the process of asking questions about his identity. Watching him go through that, I wanted a character like him in a story so my son could see himself on a page.
Joe is the nutball that I was when I was a kid. He is a comic book freak, and sort of an outsider, and he's the one who wants to do the crazy thing instead of the smart thing. All of these boys together comprise different parts of my world.
In addition to themes of identity, what are some of the other major themes or lessons in the book?
A big one is food—where our food comes from, how it gets treated, and how safe we are with it. I'm really interested in the industrial food chain, and how we in America don't really engage with the process of how we get our food. The plot, and the setting of a meatpacking plant, provides opportunities for kids to learn about these issues.
There is such hype around zombies in entertainment today. Why do you think that is?
I'm not even sure why zombies have become so popular. I had never really considered writing about zombies until I heard about my wife's students who wanted to read about zombies. When I began writing, I didn't want to give them horror, but I wanted to give them a zombie they could fight, not a zombie that needs a hug. I saw it as an opportunity to explore thematic elements that were important for me.
Do you have a favorite zombie movie or TV show?
I tend to watch the fun ones. To be honest, genuine horror scares the pants off of me. It gives me the shivers and I don't like it. So, I tend to avoid those shows. When I was writing Zombie Baseball Beatdown, I wanted these zombies to be kind of fun and I wanted kids to really be able to beat them up. I can take the fun version of horror, but if it gets more intense I tend to cover my eyes and hide under a blanket.
What was the best Halloween costume you ever had?
My best costume was when I dressed as a witch. Not as a black-hat witch with a black cat or anything like that, but as an old crone with a withered staff. I found this crazy mask of a withered old woman's face, and I hobbled around dressed in rags. It was actually really good and I scared other kids. I think I was 13 or 14 when I did that one.
Did you have a favorite candy growing up?
I don't know what my favorite candy was back then. But now, my favorite candy is gummy bears. And I eat a lot of them. I eat sort of a horrifying number of gummy bears these days.
If there were to be a zombie apocalypse, do you have a plan?
My plan is to get together with a whole bunch of my neighbors and cooperate. I think that when we work together, we survive.


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Anyone tried and used this mount on their saiga? Its plastic, right? I'm guessing it replaces the rear sight. Does it attach with a screw on the back end? I'm looking for something like this and wondering if the plastic is a solid base to mount an optic to. Does it work well?
Help! Thanks in advance!
Save your money and buy something of quality.
Just my two cents worth.
Your in my Mind, and in my Sights
I have it for both my S12 and my S308. They both work fine. The rifle one holds zero quite well. Because its made of a plastic polymer, like those used for your mags, theres a bit of flex in it when using a heavy optic on it.
Lets face it, the Saiga is not a precision rifle nor is the shotgun either. However, with those rails, it shoots just fine for its intended range and purpose. Anything more accurate than that will put you in need of a different gun plus lots more money.
Why get that dumb little piece when you can just get one of those double weaver rails that bolt onto your stock scope mounting points?
(it locks onto the side of your rifle where the normal russian mounted scopes fit, and runs up over top of the rifle.)
You can fit a scope right ontop plus put a laser sight or flashlight on the side rail.
Although what sucks is you gotta take it off everytime you want to field strip the rifle.....but it takes like 10 seconds to get off.....you might need a hammer,lol, that sucker holds REAL tight, even without the bolts.
There are other beryl rails out there that are much better but for more money of course. Try, Krebs, DPH Arms, and Texas Weapons Systems. Those are all made of aluminum and include a quick release mechanism for field stripping.


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Home Depot at Sears San Antonio site?!!
Original post made by Concerned Neighbor, Green Acres, on Jul 26, 2006
I posted this on a local email list, and people were incensed. The citizens of Mountain View voted to keep Home Depot from moving to the old Emporium site on Grant Road, which is by far a better location than San Antonio and El Camino. But I guess San Antonio is not as close to Mountain View residential real estate, it's just close to far more expensive Los Altos and Palo Alto homes.
Where do they think the trucks with all the lumber are going to come from? Palo Alto residents (and their property values) all along San Antonio will be negatively affected. The neighborhood will be negatively affected. Sorry to say, construction brings crime (according to the Palo Alto police) and this type of business will negatively alter the character of the neighborhood.
I know someone who works in another Silicon Valley location where a Home Depot was built nearby -- she says the crime went up and the neighborhood character really suffered. Home Depot is a good business, but it doesn't belong in the middle of such a highly residential area. (Of course, if they move there, I will never shop there again.)
There already is a Home Depot nearby in East Palo Alto near the freeway -- are they going to vacate that store to move across the freeway and away from East Palo Alto?
I am not normally NIMBY about businesses, but this is just too much. If anything, if Sears won't stay, that site really needs a family-oriented business.
Comments (37)
a resident of Charleston Meadows
on Jul 27, 2006 at 6:59 am
How did crime go up due to Home Depot? I just wish they were building it in Palo Alto- so we could get the sales tax!! Another place to shop outside my city.
editor emeritus
on Jul 27, 2006 at 8:11 am
Jay Thorwaldson is a registered user.
FYI, as background, the Palo Alto Weekly and its sister paper, the Mountain View Voice, printed the following story by Jon Weiner at the end of May this year:
Home Depot taking Sears site
Home Depot is formalizing plans to take over the current Sears site at San Antonio Shopping Center. Sears' lease is expiring in March 2007.
The proposed store has approximately 130,000 square feet of floor space, counting a mezzanine level, according to company spokesperson Kathryn Gallagher.
In early 2005, Palo Alto-based Thoits Brothers took over direct control of the land at San Antonio Shopping Center and quickly began looking for a new tenant to replace Sears. Talks with one retailer had fallen through when Home Depot representatives came up with an offer.
Fred Thoits said the new store would restore San Antonio's status as a regional shopping center.
"What we have seen is that the center has taken a sort of tired look, a run-down look," he said. "It's not a vital and active center, and we think it has a lot of potential."
Gallagher said that Home Depot is planning a community meeting for residents of local neighborhoods. Though the site is already zoned for commercial uses, the city will hold hearings on design and traffic elements.
One issue, according to city economic-development director Ellis Berns, will be ensuring that the new building, in particular its lumber storage, fits in well with the existing stores.
"We want it to look clean in terms of design and appropriate for the community," said Berns.
Though the city cannot reveal the sales-tax revenues generated by individual businesses, Berns said Home Depots in the region generally produce between $225,000 and $450,000 a year. Sears stores tend to come in at about two-thirds of that, he said.
Gallagher said the store will employ about 150 full- and part-time workers.
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jul 27, 2006 at 8:12 am
This has been in the news for months. The original post is a perfect example of the Palo Alto NIMBY attitude,also it is a great example of the spreading of misinformation and 3rd or 4th hand rumors.
I did not know that Mountain View had to consult with the exalted residents of San Antonio Road about this. I am sure that the original poster would love to put this Mountain View issue through the Palo Alto Process--that way the Home Depot would not be moving in for 10-12 years.
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 27, 2006 at 8:26 am
I'll tell you how crime goes up when HD moves in. And this was told to me by more then one Home Depot Employee over in the EPA store. You end up with more day laborers hanging out looking for work and with it comes more trash and vehicle break ins. Again, these are the words of a HD employee...one needs to only spend a short while in their parking lot and you can see why there are concerns.
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jul 27, 2006 at 9:13 am
Palo Altans' selfishness is the reason why so many businesses have left town, driving away much needed tax revenues. Auto dealerships and supermarkets are shutting down in increasing numbers. Fry's almost got axed. Ford dealership just announced its closure.
Surrounding cities like EPA and Mt View are the direct beneficiaries of this foolishness. Palo Altans still need to shop and where do they go? EPA and Mt View.
That's why more and more businesses are sprouting around Palo Alto. And guess what that will mean in the long run. Mt View and EPA will have more money available to service their citizens, while Palo Altans can only whine and complain about less and less services.
a resident of Green Acres
on Jul 27, 2006 at 10:34 am
Can we please discuss the original issue and stop with all the petty sniping, baggage, and bitterness about the way Palo Alto operates?
This store is going to go into a Mountain View location on the Palo Alto/Los Altos border. It will bring an industrial/construction character to the neighborhood, which WILL negatively impact property values, rents, foot traffic and existing family-oriented businesses nearby, and yes, crime rates -- this is WHY Mountain View residents went to the trouble of getting a vote on the ballot to keep a Home Depot from taking over at Grant Road.
To answer one of the questions above, while most construction workers are law-abiding, unfortunately the construction industry does come with this problem (increased crime), and it's not just unrelated people seeking easy targets. When the Glenbrook extension was built -- far out of site from any through roads, tucked into our neighborhood and not visible or apparent to most residents OR casual criminals -- crime in the neighborhood (especially of existing homes on the way to the construction site) soared. Unfortunately, there is that element associated with construction, just talk to the police if you doubt it.
This is not a NIMBY issue about business -- I would like that whole commercial area to thrive. Putting in an anchor store with such an industrial character will hurt the other family-oriented businesses nearby, not improve retail. And it will hurt nearby property values -- in Palo Alto -- which WILL hurt our tax base, if you're worried about that.
I live on the side of Palo Alto that will be affected, am house-poor, and yes, my family would suffer if property values decline because of increased crime and an industrial-character, partially blighted (re:impact on other small businesses nearby) area nearby. Yes, my quality of life will suffer if I no longer feel safe to walk over there with my family.
I do not want to see the negative impacts that WILL happen to that area if Home Depot moves in. Trucks with lumber going up and down San Antonio at what time of morning or night? Do people think all the lumber and supplies, plus early-morning contractors and extra day laborers (and trash that people who do not live in an area inevitably drop everywhere) will appear and disappear nicely as if by magic?
Imagine the improvements to that area if, as they did on Grant Road, something like a nice Palo Alto Medical Foundation campus went in there, or virtually ANY family-oriented or non-industrial business! If HD goes in there, it will not be conducive to getting people in the existing (and planned) high density housing on the other side of it to get out of their cars and walk, it will do the opposite.
If people are so anxious for a Home Depot in Palo Alto, why not woo them with a site closer to 101, in a more industrial part of Palo Alto?
a resident of Fairmeadow
on Jul 27, 2006 at 11:17 am
There seems to be a lot of worker-type people that sit in the parking lot of the San Antonio center, kind of near the Chili's. I think these guys are day-laborers. On the other hand, I've never seen anything like that at the EPA Home Depot or the San Mateo-Bridgepoint Home Deopt. So, I don't think bringing a HD to MV will have much of an impact on an activity that already takes place.
a resident of Green Acres
on Jul 27, 2006 at 12:03 pm
So you think if you see a few prostitutes somewhere, adding a huge brothel behind them won't change the activity that already takes place? I've lived in this area a long time, and that San Antonio retail area has always been a little precarious and could go either way.
It needs pedestrian-and-family-friendly retail to improve it, not a huge industrial-construction store to make things worse for all the other businesses and residences (and community center) nearby.
There are plenty of other efforts around the country besides the one on the other side of Montain View to preserve the important character of neighborhoods because of crime and business issues -- precisely because of the negative impacts that come with this kind of industrial business and what it entails.
Please read about them (and the facts). The character of this area -- and the viability of the neighborhood and existing businesses and residences -- is the primary concern here.
a resident of Green Acres
on Jul 27, 2006 at 1:00 pm
I did not mean to make this sound like a Palo Alto vs. Mountain View problem -- many Mountain View residents are just as unhappy about the potential effects of a Home Depot at the Sears site on this end of Mountain View as the other. I have already heard from one MVw resident who was active in publicizing the NO on Home Depot at the Grant site who is planning to be just as active about this location, which for so many reasons is even worse.
For everyone who has already posted pretending to be so concerned about retail in Palo Alto -- this is a MOUNTAIN VIEW location we are talking about, right on the Palo Alto border. What do you think is going to happen to the remaining neighborhood hardward stores IN PALO ALTO when Home Depot opens in Mountain View right on our border?? Not to mention how the viable design and home improvement businesses all over Palo Alto will be negatively impacted. And even the Home Depot store in East Palo Alto (kind of makes you question their commitment to staying there).
a resident of Green Acres
on Jul 27, 2006 at 1:11 pm
With all of the problems this store will bring, Palo Alto should have some say in whether Home Depot is allowed to open in Mountain View!
a resident of Mountain View
on Jul 27, 2006 at 1:15 pm
I'm sure Home Depot's commitment to East Palo Alto is at least as strong as, say, Best Buy or Trader Joe's when they open a store near an existing site. Do you think that Whole Foods will move out of Palo Alto because another one is opening a block or two away from San Antonio Center?
Or, for that matter, should Sunnyvale be worried about the Mt. View site? I think it's just a matter of supply and demand.
I live a block or two away from the San Antonio Center myself, and don't find the area quite as "precarious" as you state. While Home Depot isn't my first choice for that location, I don't see how it will so thoroughly damage the neighborhood - which already has at least one lumber yard nearby.
a resident of Green Acres
on Jul 27, 2006 at 1:35 pm
I vote for Home Depot or any other business moving into the space to be vacated by Sears.
I also vote for Concerned Neighbor and claire to move out of my neighborhood.
a resident of Charleston Meadows
on Jul 27, 2006 at 1:56 pm
I really fail to see how a Home Depot at the Sears site is going to be worse for Palo Alto business or crime than the existing Bruce Bauer Lumber & Supply on San Antonio Circle a couple blocks away.
a resident of Green Acres
on Jul 27, 2006 at 9:50 pm
This is to David -- think about it -- we have a few neighborhood hardware stores IN Palo Alto. To answer your first concern: how will HD be worse for Palo Alto business than Bruce Bauer. Bruce Bauer is a not a Big Box hardware and home improvement store like Home Depot, and its presence does not compete with the neighborhood hardware stores, they augment each other. A Home Depot, by contrast, does directly compete with the neighborhood hardware stores and will in all likelihood put the hardware store on Middlefield in Palo Alto out of business, for example.
Bruce Bauer Lumber and a few other construction businesses are indeed a few blocks away, but they serve very specific needs, they are in a circle of industrial/construction stores all together, and they are tucked out of the way. I don't see ANY foot traffic there, that type of business and foot traffic / family shopping just don't mix. The San Antonio Sears site by contrast, is in a mall surrounded by family restaurants and businesses, and needs something that will improve not discourage foot traffic and families. Also, Bruce Bauer was frankly in that out of the way circle before the apartments and everything else moved in by the community center and is not an anchor store for a residential mall area. In this case, a few blocks and a different location are worlds away.
To Voter in Green Acres who threw out the ad hominem attacks: I know a lot of the neighbors in this neighborhood, especially the active voters, why don't you identify yourself so we can discuss it like civil human beings. (I hope you're not the neighbor who puts out negative material about every Palo Alto library and school improvement measure...)
I am raising my family here, and frankly do not want to see a Home Depot do to the businesses in that mall and the character of the neighborhood what it has done in many other areas in this country. I agree with Claire, Palo Alto should become involved and have some say in this!
a resident of Fairmeadow
on Jul 28, 2006 at 12:20 am
I think this is a lot of hoo-ha over nothing. Home Depot is pretty much a consumer oriented home and garden store, not a "industrial" or "construction" store. Most of the stuff they stock is for regular everyday home-owners looking to buy things for everyday maintenence or small-time projects.
They also sell tools and appliances. You know who else sells tools and appliances? Sears!
The day-laborers will probably still come around. If we want to change that, we're going to have to enforce anti-loitering laws and possibly immigration laws.
I like shopping over at San Antonio because they have some decent stores - TJ's, Walmart, Bev-Mo, etc. I don't shop there because its nice - frankly it looks like a dump. If you really want it to be "nice" you'd have to knock it all down and start over.
Bridgepointe in San Mateo is an example of a place with several large stores that's actually nice.
If I were to design something from the ground up, I would like to see a new "center" with a home depot, a brand new target, and then some good big family restaurants. I know its cheesy, but that stuff is just convenient. You know what else we need? Movie theaters! I would love to see a nice, clean, big, safe multiplex theater there.
a resident of Professorville
on Jul 28, 2006 at 2:06 am
Why doesn't Palo Alto have ANY big box retail stores? Think about it. Does the acronym NIMBY come to mind? We are now completely outflanked by Mt. View, EPA, and soon...maybe Menlo Park.
Palo Alto is beginning to reap what we have sown for the last two decades as we made it difficult for business to do business here.
Palo Alto is now completely outflanked by big box retail; the only thing left in the way of no-brainer revenue generators is for us to build an auto mall. We've been wanting to do that, and know that it should be done, but NIMBYISM has done its best again to delay, defeat, or diffuse the effort.
By the way, get used to seeing small retail businesses in Palo Alto (like the hardware store on Middlefield) go the way of the dodo bird. Retail rents here are climbing, and climbing fast. We're on our way to high end restaurants and specialty retail. Not necessarily bad, just different. This means that a lot of 'functional' shopping for necessities will eventually migrate away from Palo Alto.
We need a new kind of thinking about retail attraction, and new business attraction. If we don't do that, local services are going to take a BIG hit in the coming years.
So, where's the new thinking?
a resident of Green Acres
on Jul 28, 2006 at 7:37 am
Glad to see Concerned Neighbor is being out-voted. It goes to show that there are enough Palo Altans out there to fight the NIMBY sentiment hurting Palo Alto's long term interests.
I still vote for HD but would prefer its better cousin, HomeExpo.
I still vote for Concerned Neighbor to move because that is the only way he will find peace for himself and bring peace to my neighborhood.
a resident of Green Acres
on Jul 28, 2006 at 9:30 am
This is not a NIMBY issue about any of the issues the last two posts have brought up, nor am I writing this to vent any bile about Palo Alto retail squabbles as they are. It's about what a Home Depot would do to the neighborhood and even the Big Box neighboring retail in that Mountain View mall on our borderl.
If that's the way this discussion is going, let me mention a few businesses that I wouldn't let out a peep about (or might be thrilled to see go into that location):
Home Depot Expo (very different in character than Home Depot)
An entertainment complex with an IMAX theatre (woudn't compete with Palo Alto theaters which are all showing independents anyway, would draw regionally as SJ and SF are closest)
Walgreens, Longs, any vanilla drugstore -- we don't need more, but at least it won't attract crime and discourage foot traffic and families
Office Depot, Office Max , Walmart (yes, even Walmart, though there is already one in that mall), Target, etc., etc.
A giant Babies R Us (no large discount baby and children shops exist for several towns over, Mvw and PA residents have to drive a long way or shop online)
Sears, Penneys, TJ Maxx, Nordstrom, (basically any department store you can think of)
A PAMF Medical campus like the one built on the other potential Home Depot site in Mvw
Any computer super store
A Mega Starbucks (okay that's a joke, but since a few disgruntled posters are trying to make this about NIMBY, I thought I'd throw that one our -- for the record, I am okay with even that!)
Since I could go on here for pages, let's just say the rest of the list of businesses I would be fine with going into that location is basically ANY store that doesn't bring an industrial character and attract crime to the mall.
I'm not outvoted in the community, not even Mtn View, or the residents wouldn't have voted Home Depot out of a much better site than San Antonio Mall. Residents AND businesses IN MOUNTAIN VIEW were against a Home Depot going in on Grant Road, especially apartments like Americana which would have seen a real and inevitable hit to their income because of the change in the character of the neighborhood and decline in liveability.
I didn't think Voter would have the courage to identify himself. (If you really are a resident of Green Acres, you can identify yourself through our neighborhood email lists, GAI or II, you don't have to do it through the town square. Are you really even a resident of this neighborhood? If you identified yourself, I think you would find yourself outvoted in this PA neighborhood which would be most affected by a HD at the Sears site. I was not aware of any uncivil voters in this neighborhood, I would be happy to come over and introduce myself and talk person-to-person. Like I said, I'm beginning to doubt you even live here.)
a resident of Stanford
on Jul 28, 2006 at 10:16 am
It seems as though everything that Concerned Neighbor just rattled off about PA not having is just about everything Mountain View has.
Maybe it's time for a relocation for you?
a resident of Charleston Meadows
on Jul 28, 2006 at 10:25 am
Concerned Neighbor: A drugstore strikes me as really unlikely for the Sears site; there's a Longs just across the street. If another drug store moved in at the Sears site, we'd risk trading one empty store for another.
a resident of Green Acres
on Jul 28, 2006 at 10:59 am
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I was making the point that I'm not opposed to retail or big box retail going in at the Sears site (hence the list of businesses I wouldn't oppose). I'm pro business, in fact, that's why I'm concerned about a Home Depot there. I'm okay with just about anything, just so long as it doesn't turn the neighborhood into an industrial no-man's-land the way Home Depot would.
I think it would be a squandered business opportunity for the whole area not to improve the neighborhood, but I wouldn't get up in arms about it the way I am about putting in something that would hurt the neighborhood character and inevitably increase crime like Home Depot would.
Like David, I think a new drugstore would be silly. We are already knee-deep in drugstores, but that doesn't seem to stop anyone from putting up more of them. My point was that drugstores won't impact the neighborhood in the negative way a Home Depot would -- that's why you've never seen Mountain View residents go to the trouble of getting a referendum on a new drugstore on the ballot. It's a lot of work to do that (having been involved in doing that on other issues myself), and people only do it when something very important is at stake, as there is here.
I am concerned about the health of the retail and residential on both sides of the border, and was making the point that virtually ANY store would at the very least not harm the neighborhood the way Home Depot would. That's not a new point, by the way, it's why the citizens of Mountain View already went through the very difficult process of getting a vote on the ballot to keep Home Depot out of what was even a better site than the San Antonio Mall. It's why citizens in a lot of other places have gone to similar efforts. We care about our communities and want to see them grow and prosper.
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a resident of College Terrace
on Jul 28, 2006 at 11:28 am
I like Home Depot and shop at the EPA store when the need arises.
I wouldn't mind seeing one go in at San Antonio if it where needed but I just don't think the seven minute drive to EPA is that tough that we need one on the corner of El Camino when, as noted by others, there are so many other businesses that we could genuinely use.
Not that the powers that be are going to ask my permission or approval.
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 28, 2006 at 8:32 pm
Home Depot is playing a game of Monopoly. They already have a discount warehouse in EPA, which is within fairly easy commute distance from the San Antonio site. By moving onto San Antonio, they are trying to undercut and then squeeze out OSH, Bauer and Mintons.
Putting Home Depot on an already overbusy intersection will hurt other non-complementary businesses in that area. In addition, it will significantly hurt residential property values on San Antonio,and will trickle through south palo alto.
So voter, GSB, Richard, et al would rather see a trash hardware HD than OSH, Bauer and Mintons?
a resident of College Terrace
on Jul 28, 2006 at 9:44 pm
Gardiner should read throughly befor starting to write.
a resident of Green Acres
on Jul 28, 2006 at 11:50 pm
The voters of Mountain View already rejected a Home Depot on Grant Road because of precisely the concerns brought up by Bob. Additionally, residents were legitimately concerned about what Home Depot would cost the city in road improvements, etc.
At the San Antonio Mall site, Palo Alto will share the problems, especially the costs of road upkeep and improvements, the decrease in property values and the cost of additional crime and degradation of the local neighborhood, but Palo Alto won't get a cent of the tax revenue. Palo Alto will lose revenue because of reduced property values in the area, the increased crime, and the hit to Palo Alto businesses. The Mountain View businesses nearby will suffer, too.
According to articles in the Mountain View Voice, Home Depot behaved reprehensibly when the issue went to voters the last time. Because of that, many Mountain View residents expressed relief that Home Depot was not coming to Mountain View, yet here they are again, in an even less appropriate location.
Mountain View residents voted 2 to 1 to keep Home Depot out. I posted about this issue on some of my local email lists (some with thousands of members who are never afraid to disagree), and didn't get a single neutral email or email in favor of a Home Depot at the site. Everyone was against it, some vehemently, and they were private emails to me, it wasn't because of public consensus (like I said, on these lists, people aren't afraid to disagree anyway). [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]
I believe that there are people who are neutral about it, and surely there are people who disagree. But if there were a vote on this site just as on Grant Road, I believe the citizens of Mountain View (and Palo Alto and especially Los Altos) would express the same sentiments that the voters of Mountain View expressed over the Grant Road site, which was closer to the freeway off a more major thoroughfare, less surrounded by expensive residential real estate, and in many other ways a better site. By 2 to 1, they voted against then.
What does Home Depot think has changed? The arrogance and insensitivity to the local community is astounding.
a resident of Green Acres
on Jul 29, 2006 at 12:03 am
Before I get flamed, let me say again that I am not against Home Depot as a store, I shop there (or at least, I did), I'm not even against them opening a store in the cities I mentioned. But in a more appropriate location, that's all!!!
The store in Sunnyvale is in an appropriate location. The store in East Palo Alto is in an appropriate location. Someone from outside the area probably drove through, didn't think much of the look of that side of the San Antonio mall, saw some day laborers, and pegged the area as a non-family-oriented, industrial-type location. They don't know or care about the future of the area like the residents do. They can find a more appropriate location, which will maintain goodwill with the community (i.e., Win - Win). People all over the country are rejecting Home Depots in precisely the same way, and it's not because they hate the business (well, mostly), it's because HD chooses it's locations in the same indiscriminate way.
a resident of Stanford
on Jul 29, 2006 at 8:29 am
Actually, i am against HD being installed at San Antonio Shopping Center. It's not a good fit for the community. That area has a significant retail/residential mix, and HD shouldn't be placed in such a mix. Increased traffic will make the intersection more hazardous that it is now, and an increased daylaborer presence will not enourage people to visit the other stores at the Center.
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Jul 29, 2006 at 9:55 am
What none of you realize is that a MV Home Depot would increase crime in PA, MV, and surrounding cities in the following way: 1) MV Home Depot takes business from EPA Home Depot, 2) EPA tax revenue declines, 3) EPA is forced to cut back on police, education, after school programs, 4) marginal EPA residents turn to life of crime, targeting lucrative targets in nearby wealthy communities.
The progress of EPA in the last six years is entirely due to Home Depot, IKEA, Circuit City, and Best Buy. There is already competition from the MV Best Buy. It is in no one's best interests to continue this trend and return to the EPA of the 1990's
a resident of Ventura
on Jul 29, 2006 at 1:25 pm
The resistance to HD is silly, period. What I see in all this is a desire to keep things the way they are, and use unknowns to create fear about change. This is the kind of thinking that has led to much of Palo Alto's current revenue problems.
It's a new world folks; also I would like to see a stop to the thinly veiled attempts to paint day laborers as evil, or criminals. It's really quite sad, and is another example of NIMBYISM.
a resident of Green Acres
on Jul 29, 2006 at 3:13 pm
The omnipotent editor of this forum yanked my post yesterday. Perhaps my use of words like "hysterical" and "snobbish" didn't sit well with this God. OK, I got the message. Here's a self-censored version. Let's see what God does with it this time.
People like Concerned Neighbor are aggressively (ok, not hysterically) opposed to HD taking over the space to be vacated by Sears. Their reason, ostensibly, is based on a fear (unproven and unfounded, of course) that a store like HD will attract bad elements to their neighborhood, increasing crime etc. thereby negatively impact real estate values.
These same people seem to be blind to a living example of HD moving next to a neighborhood without any of the negative impacts they fear. Case in point: Crescent Park. Now, Crescent Park real estate has always been at a huge premium relative to Green Acres, my neighborhood. Furthermore, Crescent Park real estate has appreciated considerably since HD moved into EPA, just on the other side of 101. I'd say Crescent Park is a lot closer to that HD than Green Acres will ever be to the Sears location. So, what's all the fuss?
a resident of Green Acres
on Jul 29, 2006 at 4:02 pm
Now "Voter" has just given us proof that he is not even from this area, with a completely nonsensical argument -- equating Crescent Park as being close to EPA, he's looking on a map, he has no knowledge of the area and the deep divide between the two places and the barrier of 101. Try putting a Home Depot on Lincoln Avenue, on the Palo Alto/Crescent Park side of 101 and see what happens! EPA and Crescent Park have always been two different worlds, if he lived here, he would know that.
There are dozens of successful efforts to keep Home Depot out in certain indiscriminately chosen sites around the country. I have seen web sites where people have gone to the trouble of documenting the increase in crime after a Home Depot went into other inappropriate, nearby locations. It happens. None of this is news -- read the debate over the first proposed Mountain View HD, when voters elected 2 to 1 to keep Home Depot out.
Mountain View residents were considering all the real problems, the costs associated with the heavy truck traffic, the costs to the immediate real estate of the increase in crime, litter, cost to other local businesses and real estate from degradation of the neighborhood character, etc.
If HD goes in at San Antonio Mall, Palo Alto will bear those costs, but see none of the benefits. Palo Alto, for example, has to bear a third of the local contribution for repairing the San Antonio overpass. Palo Alto has to maintain the roads from 101 to the San Antonio Mall, which will be negatively impacted by the additional heavy truck traffic, noise, and pollution. Palo Alto will get none of the property tax benefit, because the store is actually in Mountain View.
It makes me wonder why "Voter" is so intent on attacking me personally and continually boosting only Home Depot at the location (as opposed to a more appropriate location), without any real evidence or simple knowledge of the area, and what his stake in Home Depot is. He has still made no attempt to take me up on my offer to privately contact me through the Green Acres neighborhood lists and perhaps discuss this like rational human beings (if he can).
As I have said, I am not opposed to Home Depot going in at a more appropriate location, though the resident from East Palo Alto has made a compelling argument for why Home Depot in Mountain View will hurt East Palo Alto, and I agree. The East Palo Alto location for Home Depot actually made a GOOD difference.
I am opposed to Home Depot going in at San Antonio Mall because, unlike "Voter", I actually live here and care about the future of this neighborhood, the prosperity of the businesses in this area especially the San Antonio Mall businesses which are local to me, the property values, the safety of the area, etc. I would be opposed to any other business like Home Depot that would have such a negative impact and cost to Palo Alto and the neighboring residences and businesses.
I would love to see this viewed as an opportunity to bring more foot traffic to the mall and make it a destination -- outlet stores, an entertainment complex with IMAX, etc. -- but I won't fight virtually any other business, as long as it doesn't have the kind of negative impacts Home Depot will.
a resident of Green Acres
on Jul 29, 2006 at 5:24 pm
I am amazed but not amuzed by Concerned Neighbor's penchant for making conclusions about things and people. Let's summarize his conclusions:
1. There are locations suitable for HD but NIMBY because...[crime, real estate depreciation, blah, blah, blah...]
2. Voter must have a stake in HD because Voter wants it IMBY.
3. Voter is not from this area because Voter doesn't know the "deep divide between" Crescent Park and EPA.
There are more but let's look at these foregone conclusions of Mr. NIMBY.
1. HD is an indispensable store for many people. That's why more of them are popping up everywhere. HD is doing a lot more good than any of the mythical bad promulgated by people like Concerned Neighbor. Palo Alto is already encircled by businesses earning our money. Another HD in the peripheral isn't going to change anything, except in furthering proof of the NIMBY sentiment prevalent among many Palo Altans. THAT sentiment is what's hurting Palo Alto. Not another HD in Mt View!!!
2. Concerned Neighbor must have a short memory. I said previously that I would prefer HomeExpo to HD, although I'm not opposed to HD because I simply don't buy his argument. HomeExpo, or even Lowe's, is better than HD because there is already a HD in EPA. The space that will be vacated by Sears is quite large. You know upscale retailers have passed up San Antonio Center forever and that is not about to change. Only retailers like HD have the business model that makes sense for them to occupy such a large space. It's a win-win-win for the shopping center owners, HD stock, and people who have less distance to travel to get home improvement supplies.
3. I know Palo Alto a lot more than most Palo Altans. How many of them can say they have been around since the mid-seventies? Crescent Park's divide from EPA by 101 means nothing. People move freely between the two sides, unlike what Concerned Neighbor would have us believe. The 101 divide is no more or less a deterrent to crime than the San Antonio/El Camino divide that separtes Mt View from Los Altos and Palo Alto. There is no evidence to support his point that HD brings more crime to surrounding areas including Crescent Park. According to Concerned Neighbor's logic, the day laborers (who are sentenced in absentia as responsible for increase in crime - now, THAT's personal attack in the utmost on a group of mostly hardworking people) are thwarted by 101 to do more harm to Crescent Park. By that logic, Concerned Neighbor, you have nothing to fear since San Antonio/El Camino should sufficiently thwart them from getting into your backyard.
Finally, there's no point in wanting to know my identity. I'm not your problem. Your NIMBY mentality is!
a resident of Green Acres
on Jul 29, 2006 at 6:39 pm
"Voter" -- who still seems obviously not to be from this area and who perhaps has an undue interest in Home Depot (perhaps the stock that he brings up?) -- is hard to even answer because he isn't using facts, hasn't addressed any of my points with facts, and is still using mostly unfounded ad hominem attacks against me rather than addressing the issue, which is that Home Depot would be bad for the San Antonio Mall.
Mountain View residents recently decided 2 to 1 that Home Depot would be bad for Grant Road and El Camino. San Antonio Mall is even less accessible to freeways and major roads, and more surrounded by quiet and expensive residential areas, and family-oriented businesses that will suffer if the an anchor store like the Sears site becomes an industrial no-man's-land.
Notice, I haven't said one thing connecting day labor with crime in any of my posts, yet he attacks me for this. I pointed out that construction is association with increased crime -- this is a fact, call the Palo Alto police if you don't believe this. The introduction of Home Depots into certain kinds of locations is also associated with an increase in crime, that's also not hard to prove if you feel the need.
If "Voter" is the kind of person who doesn't see the point of zoning and wouldn't mind a toxic dump in his back yard, and is calling that NIMBY, then mea culpa. But if he is like that, then what is he (allegedly) doing in Palo Alto? The San Antonio Mall and businesses on both sides of El Camino are walking distance to my home and local to me. I care about safety, prosperity, and quality of life in my area. Unlike "Voter", I care about the area prospering more than insisting on moving in one inappropriate business for that location.
"Voter" says that (I quote) "upscale retailers have passed up San Antonio Center forever and that is not about to change." Now who's the snob? Family-oriented businesses like Trader Joe's, Carter's, Mervyn's, Jo-Ann's fabrics, Fresh Choice, Lucky's and yes, even Walmart, make the San Antonio Mall a good place for families to shop. Some of those businesses really helped bring life back into the mall as compared to 20 years ago. "Voter" has all but condemned the mall and the businesses in it, basically saying that no one else will have that big huge Sears site, or that if the new tenant is not "upscale", it may as well be Home Depot with all its attendant costs and problems. That's baloney.
Where's the win-win for Palo Altans who are already close to a Home Depot in East Palo Alto and can already shop there, and if another one moves onto San Antonio Road Sears site, will have to pay the costs to upgrade and maintain the roads and bridges for the Home Depot heavy trucks and traffic, and suffer the revenue loss due to the increased crime, pollution, and noise, the loss of property tax when nearby property values take a hit (especially the new housing going in nearby), and the loss of sales taxes from Palo Alto businesses across the street that will be negatively impacted?
The win-win is for Home Depot to gracefully announce that it has found a more appropriate location where a store is really needed, as it was in East Palo Alto, and for the Thoits brothers to let a more positive and appropriate tenant take over the Sears site.
I do agree with you, Voter, on one thing. A Home Depot Expo would be an appropriate business for that location. The problem is that Home Depot never staffs and stocks Expo well enough, and thus Expos aren't the money makers -- which is why there are far fewer Expos, and why HD closed the Expo in E. Palo Alto. If Home Depot put in an Expo at the San Antonio mall, actually staffed it with knowledgeable people at a reasonable level, carried a lot of stock so that people could buy things there rather than choosing things and going elsewhere to get it when they need it, then an Expo would be great there. The customer base would actually be local residents, and it would serve a need. It wouldn't even directly compete with the other local construction businesses, it might actually complement.
a resident of Los Altos
on Jul 29, 2006 at 7:07 pm
Home Depot is not a good fit for San Antonio Shopping Center. It will change the characteristics of the mall and the neighborhood. This is a very residential area. OSH on Charleston is a good fit for that shopping mall. Home Depot in EPA is at a good location. I don't oppose Home Depots in general, but San Antonio and El Camino is not a good location for Home Depot.
a resident of Green Acres
on Jul 29, 2006 at 7:51 pm
It's interesting to see how Concerned Neighbor promotes his holier-than-thou persona beyond his backyard.
He wasted a lot of breath on the same spiel with nothing new but shockingly had no answer on my point about Crescent Park having suffered no ill consequences from HD's presence a stone's throw away.
Heck, if he can walk to San Antonio to go to HD from his "safety, prosperity, and quality of life" in his area, then surely Crescent Park residents can walk to HD in EPA. It's debatable who will get to target destination fater. Concerned Neighbor is trying to have us believe that his "safety, prosperity, and quality of life" would be irreparbly damaged by HD's presence. Well, do you know of any Crescent Park residents who'd come out to pronounce the damage to their "safety, prosperity, and quality of life" after HD moved into their backyard? The answer is easy to find: real estate in Crescent Park is much higher today than before HD planted itself firmly in their backyard.
I mention upscale retailers and he names current tenants "Trader Joe's, Carter's, Mervyn's, Jo-Ann's fabrics, Fresh Choice, Lucky's and yes, even Walmart." Would any of these stores be accepted into Stanford Shopping Center? OK, Fresh Choice once was when it was a novelty. By the same token, would any retailer now occupying a space at Stanford Shopping Center willingly trade for a space in San Antonio Shopping Center. I know Concerned Neighbor thinks his backyard is good enough for them but, alas, upscale retailers don't think so.
Still, Green Acres real estate has appreciated and will continue to do so regardless of another HD or not. Palo Alto as a whole is an upscale neighborhood not because it lacks HDs in its backyard (when in fact there is already one, let's have another, what's the big deal???) but because of its premier Silicon Valley location and above all the outstanding school district.
Now, if NIMBY mindset continues to ruin Palo Alto by scaring away businesses, to where services need to be cut or budget shortfalls grow ever larger, and Palo Alto schools fail to impress, that'w when real estate will start to depreciate.
HomeDepot is bad for real estate, therefore deserves the NIMBY boot? It's a non sequitur.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jul 29, 2006 at 9:06 pm
Bring on HD! Also, I believe Mt. View wants to build a five star hotel around the shoreline area too. GOOD FOR THEM! They see the need for a sound sales tax base. Palo Alto- keep building your playing fields (on prime land), forcing your hotels to close because of a few homeowners groups and having your auto dealerships close (Ford) or move (Porsche) because you have no auto row.
Sorry, got to go- off to Target in Mt. Veiw!
a resident of Mountain View
on Jul 29, 2006 at 10:46 pm
My family is highly disappointed that Home Depot is insisting on being part of Mountain View in most inapropriate ways. We voted them out from the Emporium site, and we will vote them out of San Antonio for that is not a good place for construction type of business. They should have switched locations with the REI that is opening by 101 soon. Regards, Concerned Mountain View Downtown Resident who shops at San Antonio mall regularly.
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Could one have them raising brood all winter ? Got a sun room that could work.
Could one have them raising brood all winter ? Got a sun room that could work.
I did this once in my garage in Alaska during the winter of 1985. From my bad experience, I would expect the bees to come out of the hive for cleansing flights if they get over 40 or 45 degrees. They will go straight for the windows and leave their excrement on the inside of the windows and walls. If it isn't too warm, they will just crawl on the hive and leave their brown spots there. If there is an incandescent light on, they will land on it and cook (smells real bad). I put the bees back outside and they did fine. The smell was still there when I moved away.
From what I've read, those who overwinter inside keep the space dark and under 40 degrees.
Good luck.
P.S. The bees would use a truckload of honey and pollen producing brood all winter. Besides that, continuous brood production would be a real boon for mite numbers (they increase their population about 2.5% per month during brood production). Most hives have some brood year around with short broodless periods during the winter months.
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Thanks Lee,
Was thinking I'd screw a package cage over entrance so they'd have a screened patio But they did build up (add comb) over winter ? Don't mind the feeding, only a few hives. No mites yet knock on wood. What temp do u think for active but not 2 active, bout 50 ?
I don't know what can tell you, except that I wouldn't do it again. I didn't feed them, so I'm sure they did not make any comb, I doubt that is a realistic hope. FRom what I've read, it needs to be under 40 degrees and dark.
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If you really want to bring them inside, how about treat them like an observation hive and have a tube to the outdoors? Them being indoors would keep them warmer so they would not have to work as hard to keep warm, and all their cleansing flights would be outdoors.
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That is a possibility I am considering. Just worried they won't cluster then I will loose many as they try to fly in winter. Still gathering info.
MB, You are wrong. Bees have beenin this world a lot longer than we have. They know what cold weather is.
My observation hive is in my front porch - whichis not heated. Last winter it got down to 45 degrees min. normally about 55 to 60. They have a 1 1/4 inch pipe to the outdoors and a pint jar with 2:1 sugar water (and 1 teaspoon lemon juice / gallon). Any time the south side of the house is above 55 degrees, a few bees will crawl out to inspect but not stay out long. If any died outside, I could not see that.
This year I also have two nucs in the porch with a 1 1/4 pipe through the window and a pint jar
on top of each. Of course I can't see in the nucs but I can tell by the activity outside their window that new bees are flying during warm periods.
Did they build comb overwinter ? Did u feed pollen ?
They do not build comb during the winter and I do not feed pollen. Though I did build in a port where I could feed pollen if I need to someday.
The ob. hive got too full of bees last July, so I cleaned all of them out. Then about a week later (Aug 1) I put a frame into the hive so they could make a new queen - which they did.
Normaly, they would start storing nector and pollen soon after the queen mates , but this year(with the drough and hot weather) they have not done anyhing. Lucky for them that the sugar water is available.
I have a lot of thoughts on this, but don't want to be too negative. One thing I did not see mentioned though. Bees, like most plants and animals are DAY LENGTH Sensitive. To truly manipulate them to stay somewhat active all winter, you need to simulate a longer day length..lights on a timer.
A person would have to be very experienced to pull this off, but if you go into it as a learning experience and realizing the colony will likley perish at some point..do it! Especially if it is an OB hive.
You cannot let them fly around inside however. I absolutly will not work with honeybees-or they would be using them in greenhouses for pollination in winter. They use Bumble bees for that. I have toyed with the idea of ordering a bumble bee colony just to play with in my greenhouse. Look it up on the internet.
ALso look up European bee houses. This may give you some workable ideas.
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Awesome ! Thanks. Just what I had in mind. Now where is my drill ?
This is going off topic a bit for a minute, sorry, but this thread got me thinking about what winters are like for the bees way down south from me, like Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana. I assume Florida has brood rearing all year long, but what about those other states? I know they can get quick cold spells down south but isn't it warm enough the rest of the winter for brood rearing? John
Very interesting !
In Russia, in old times, people kept bees in the basement in the winter time. Since, Russians usually store winter vegetable in the basement also, I would assume that temperature in the basement should be above freezing point, +4oC, something like that and dark. Another variety - people keep bees in the sort of "sun-room" - walls, windows (roof -yes), no heat. In such setup, they made a "tunnels" for bees to go outside. Technically, they just drill the holes in the walls and place beehives facing walls so the entrance and the hole aligned. I do not know if they seal the gap between hive and wall - I just read about this. Temperature may be well below freezing in that 'room'. It is sort of European beehouse, but only for the winter.
Honestly, I do not see a point of keeping bees artificially active over the winter. Bees normally hibernate, it is a part of their life-cycle. Artificially breaking the cycle could not do anything good for bees. In California, bees do not hibernate, but they are outside, they have plenty of pollen and nectar any time. Even with this, I noticed that they have a 3-4 month cycle of activity - they slow down and rest for a while and than start again...
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my concern would be that not having natural forage, and therefore putting the bees on artificial 'nectar' and pollen substitutes would make them more susceptible to pathogens. i don't have the references, but mike bush has cited studies that show feeding alters the gut chemistry enough to do this.
if you can't get any comb drawn out of the deal, it doesn't sound practical unless you just want to play.
as far as temperature goes, seems like i read that 40-45 degrees farenheit is optimal for the bees in terms of not going through their stores as fast.
journaling the growth of a treatment free apiary started in 2010. 20+/- hives
Still have a lot to learn so forgive my ignorance but I was told that overwintering bees live longer then summertime bees. If they become active because of unusually warm weather and food availability will their live cycle be shortened? If they have a shorter life cycle will the hive have to raise new brood when the Q would normally be "inactive"? Seems like you would be stirring a pot that shouldn't be stirred.
I like the idea of the hive house, more to keep the harsh winds and dampness away from the hives then anything else.
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This is my first hive. I started last Spring and basically let the bees do their own thing all year. I started with a colinized brood chamber box and added a deep super that became a second brood chamber. We got one deep super of honey from the hive. The hive swarmed once in August.
I read that the drones are all killed off when it freezes, but the number of dead bees in front of my hive is alarming!!! Our temps get down to 30 but rarely lower, and this die off occurred the week after our first real freeze in November. I thought for sure the whole hive had died, but after a serious rapping on the side found a solid sheet of bees emerge briefly to investigate. They rapidly re-entered the hive.
So can someone tell me if hundreds of dead bees is normal? They are all over at the entrance and piled up on the ground in front of the hive.


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