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Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by Cowboy Brian, Dec 22, 2011.
Who is the better prospect, and why?
Everytime I have watched Luck play he seems to stare down his receivers. And most of his completions seem to be very high-percentage.
With the huge hype around him, I think he is very over rated.
So why the hype?
I think Luck is a good guy. Personable, likable. He looks the part of the big time QB. The media wants to latch on to someone like that to create more interest in their product.
His dad was an atrocious, forgettable, NFL QB.
The media seems to imply something positive with the son due to his father playing in the NFL while ignoring how bad he was.
I think Luck is more likely to be the next Ryan Leaf than RGIII is.
Remember, Ryan Leaf was a "can't miss NFL prospect" too, at one time. And teams kept taking chances on him because of his "measurables". He looked the part.
Unbelievable how someone can be so off-the-mark.
Ryan Leaf was also caught trying to rob Hydrocodone. Todd Marinovich was addicted to every drug possible. Jamarcus Russell got arrested with a giant bottle of lean.
3 big time busts.... one problem.
You can look up pretty much any bust story.... lots of them are linked to drugs. Not all, but many.
I think that as usual the #1 QB is over hyped. HOWEVER to compare Luck to the tin heads like Leaf....
No kidding. There is a possibility that Luck won't live up to the hype, but it won't be for the same reasons that Leaf didn't succeed.
Leaf came out of nowhere. I don't remember hearing about him as a bona fide top of the draft prospect until halfway through his last year in college. Unlike Peyton Manning who was scrutinized every year on college. I think being under that type of pressure is helpful to both the player and the people scouting them. It really shines more light on how that player is going to be. If Leaf had gone through that during his entire college career, I think more people would have known what a d-bag he was. Instead they didn't find out until he was in the pros.
In my opinion, Luck is more in line with Manning. He has been hyped, maybe over-hyped for a couple of years now. He has had to deal with pressure and showed to handle it pretty well.
As far as just physical abilities, Luck has more to offer than Leaf. Leaf and JaMarcus Russell, too were both big guys with strong arms, but neither had good feet. Luck is very light on his feet.
I like RGIII a lot. I do think he is behind Luck in terms of development. Luck is more ready made at this point whereas RGIII is better suited to sit and watch for a few years. I think both have good potentials. There is really nothing much not to like with either guy because of all the positives they bring.
I like both guys. Frankly I would not be shocked to see RGIII have better success early on given his athletic ability. Most rookie QB will have a lot thrown at them by the defense and RGIII ability to get out of the pocket and run vs a heavy blitz will be a big advantage to him
In the long run I think Luck will have the better career but being more of the pocket passer facing big rushes I would expect him to struggle early on.
Luck is the better prospect, but I'm a huge RGIII fan. Sucks that he'll end up a Redskin more than likely, but I would so love for him to sit a few years behind Romo and be our guy of the future.
Oh well.
Luck is fantastic and has the higher floor and is a much safer pick.
A creative coaching staff could do some aamzing things with RG3 though, considering his athletic ability and his deep ball touch.
Look what the Panthers did with Newton. They added a read option element to their offense and will really turn Newton into something special.
Imagine a team that runs a ZBS and needs its QB to bootleg adding a read option element to it.
Pretty much how I feel.
I especially agree with the point that RGIII is going to take some time to really develop, although I don't know if he'll be afforded that if he goes early. He is a raw QB prospect with so much that needs to be refined: footwork, dropback, taking snaps under center, reading coverages and finding his receivers who will be running more complex/deeper routes, et cetera.
I'm in the minority, and I like RGIII too, but I don't see him as this bonified sure-bet franchise QB.
absolutely agree realtick.
I havent seen a qb have such professinal reads, all across the field at multiple depths as i have seen Luck make. He can have as many as 3/4 reads and then a check down.
RGIII has one or two reads and then takes off.
Andrew Luck WILL be a star qb in this league.
RGIII will be a good qb in this league.
No D-1 college offense has "1 or 2" reads.
Most top Texas High Schools do not run on a "1 or 2" read offense.
Really, all this does is give Luck the upperhand going into training camp 2012. After that, its all coaching and development from that point forward.
Luck is an a very ideal situation (and after seeing him play live I am sold on him)
He has the best o-line in the country by far, with 2 first round picks on it, and probably another future first round pick. Its size and ability actually rivals NFL o-lines.
He has incredible talent at TE, which is impossible to cover in CFB considering the talent level on defense.
So Luck is able to drop back, sit in a comfortable pocket, scan the field and hit his man. And it helps that his run game is outstanding.
This is not to detract from Luck at all, this is to simply demonstrate the advantages he has over RG3 in regards to the team around each of them.
RG3 has demonstrated this year an excellent deep ball, quick release and progression through his reads. His running ability is simply bonus.
I think a team will do just fine with either of them. The draft day question really is Luck>RG3+the picks you save
One aspect of Luck that a lot of folks don't realize is that he's running the offense. They've given him that liberty to do so. Not to mention the fact they run a pro-style offense. Very few college QBs are given that responsibility.
Agree. He is calling plays on the line.
Again though, this advantage Luck has essentially goes away once the first traning camp is done.
Luck will be learning an entirely new offense (unless he goes to SF)
As will RG3.
Its coaching and development at that point.
SkinsHokieFans, you gave a pretty good breakdown in your last post regarding Luck. In terms of RGIII, there are some things I definitely disagree about. I've watched/recorded about 4-5 games of RGIII this season, and he indeed has a simplified spread that involves a lot of "1-read" predetermined passes.
In one game I counted roughly 22 passes (I only started counting after his first two series) that didn't go more than 5-yards past the LOS. So much so that the broadcaster said half-jokingly that they should pass a rule that would limit the amount of bubble screens a team could run.
RGIII is not dropping back in the pocket and going through progressions. Baylor's passing attack is generally short/long. When Griffin does take a deep drop it's more often than not to go deep.
Beyond that, his footwork is herky-jerky and he needs experience from under center.
That's not saying he can not make the transition and develop, but it is saying there will be a learning curve that many prolific college QBs never were able to grasp.
Here is the question though from a draft perspective.
Can you coach that into RG3, footwork and progression work in an acceptable time period?
Clearly the physical skills are there for an elite QB (arm strength, accuracy, quick release)
Do you feel he is unable to be coached up in regards to improved footwork, progressions and reading a defense?
I don't think it's that easy. You're talking about a guy in Luck that's already demonstrated he can do it proficiently in a pro-style offense.
RGIII, while intelligent, has never been given that responsibility nor does he have experience to draw upon, and the scheme he did play in college was gimmicky spread.
So it's not as if they are both starting off on level playing ground.
It's like saying two people need to learn a new Microsoft OS. One guy has been using Windows 7 for a few years, and the other guy has only been using a TI-83 calculator.
It's true, neither have used the new OS, and will have to learn some things but who would have the advantag in this case?
I look at it differently. One is as pretty close to being a known quantity as there is, while the other is a mystery at this point.
I definitely believe technique can be taught and coached up. RGIII has all the requisite tools to succeed, but I think there will be a steep learning curve for him. I always look at things as if I'm wagering. While I would bet money on RGIII finding success at some point in the NFL, I wouldn't describe it as a "sure bet."
I would say Cam Newton was a more polished (relatively speaking) pro QB prospect than RGIII is coming out.
Depends, is the guy using the TI using it because he doesn't need a computer to run the same calculations? :laugh2: The guy using the TI could be a borderline genius!
As always, context is the key. We heard all the same things about Cam, and i don't know that they added all this read stuff for him, when I've seen him he's been taking real drops and making reads then running if it was there, maybe he meant Tebow, but coming out people said Gabbert would be better even though he ran a spread as well. Completely ignoring just how productive Cam had been at every opportunity.


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KNOXVILLE, Tenn. -- The Vols were back on Haslam Field on Tuesday as Butch Jones continues to build a new UT team, 'brick by brick.' Tennessee returned to action after spring break week and Jones was happy with what he saw from the Orange & White.
"We wanted to see how our players would respond," said Jones. "We had a focused group of young men yesterday in our meetings. And today I liked our mental focus and I liked our mental effort. It is like building a building, you build it brick by brick.
"That is what we are building right now as this football program, this football team. We still have a long way to go. I also saw some individuals who really went on spring break and came back and they were in great shape. Overall, still a lot of work to do."
Jones continues to emphasis the physical nature of the game and is putting a significant focus on it each day.
"I think our overall physicality as a football team has to improve greatly," he said. "That is going to be the emphasis each and every day. We are going to get even more focused because obviously playing in this football conference we have to be a much more physical football team then what we showed today. It is all how you practice.
"The way you practice really tells you the culture of your football program. The thing I like about our players is they are here and they are willing but we still have a long way to go. But like I said earlier it is brick by brick."
Of his course of time as a coach, Jones has placed a major importance on the impact of leadership within his teams both on and off the field. It is no different at Tennessee and Jones continues to look for the men to lead Team 117.
"It is critical. Leadership is everything," said Jones. "We (coaches) aren't on the field with them, we aren't in there when they start their summer strength and conditioning program. We always talk about it, it is better to be a player-led team than a coach-led team, or a player-coached team then a coach-coached team."
Jones has pointed to several upperclassmen including Ja'Wuan James, A.J. Johnson and Jacques Smith, who have emerged as leaders. He also pointed to unheralded Raiques Crump as a player who is rising to the occasion.
"Ja'Wuan has done a great job, but we need more," said Jones. "I thought A.J. Johnson stepped up a little bit. For the first time I saw some energy, I saw a passion to get to the football, tackles for loss. Jacques Smith has been an individual who is bringing it in terms of his demeanor every day.
"Crump has been doing a great job. There is a number of individuals, Byron Moore, again we need more, we need more of a collective group effort."
With most of the university students gone over spring break, a handful of Vols remained on campus working out and getting ready for the second rounds of spring practice. Little did some of the players know a 14-year-old girl would change their lives forever.
Katelyn Norman, the 14-year-old from La Follette, Tenn., who had been battling osteosarcoma for the past two years, passed away last Friday morning, just before several Vols took part in a walkathon in her honor.
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Walls, Corey Miller, Allan Carson, Daniel Hood and Daniel McCullers took part in the walkathon and were welcomed with open arms of Norman's family despite knowing her just a few days.
"We were getting a lot of attention, and asked her sibling if this is okay or should we leave," said Walls "She was like, "No man we want you here because that's what Katelyn would've wanted." I don't know man, it touched my heart. I can honestly say my life will not be the same from meeting that little girl."
At 6-5, 232 pounds, you'd think being physical would come natural to RS freshman WR Jason Croom.
However, Croom says that's exactly what the coaches are stressing to him thus far in practice.
"Coach has been talking to me about using my size more and having more confidence when I am out there," Croom said. "That is what I have been working on."
Croom said the he wants to go up and get the ball, but also make it tough for defenders to bring him down once he lands. During Tuesday's practice, Croom ensured he'd maintain that attitude with a friendly reminder on his wrist.
"Today, I wrote on my wrist, no missed physical opportunities," Croom said. "Every chance I had I tried to be physical and go grab a deep ball if it came my way."
The coaches are working to instill this toughness among the players and Croom's progress has caught the eye of Head Coach Butch Jones.
"The one individual who has really started to impress me right now is Jason Croom. I thought he came back from spring break, I could tell he got into his play book, he ran over break and I really liked the way he approached practice today. He is a big 6-foot-4, 225-pound individual and he needs to play like that. I really saw some glimpses today and was very encouraged by what I saw with him."
As the Vols reunited for meetings Sunday night leading into today's practice, several had stories and tales to tell from their time away from Knoxville while others staying in town honing their craft.
Nathan Peterman returned to his native Jacksonville, Florida, with some teammates.
"A few guys went home with me like Justin King, Jason Croom and Kenny Bynum," said Peterman. "It was good to have those guys with me. I threw a few times and ran on the beach for a little beach workout. It was nice."
Croom got a taste of a type of workout.
"I just ran on the beach," he said. "I heard it made your feet fast. That is the first time I ever had done that. I felt it, I felt the difference."
Several of a Vols went on cruises including A.J. Johnson, who was "having a good time," but added he he came back "ready to practice" with lots of energy and tempo.
Unlike previous seasons, the Vols' break came in the middle of spring practice.
"I didn't know what to expect because this is the first time since I've been here that we've had spring practice with spring break in the middle," said Ja'Wuan James. "I feel like it went well and everybody stayed out of trouble and came back today with a great mindset."
Brian Randolph was in great spirits after Tuesday's session. "I felt we were fresh," he said. "We were uptempo - sometimes we were down - but I think we had a good practice."
Junior running back Marlin Lane was not at practice on Tuesday due to some personal matters. According to Jones, "He is taking care of his family right now. He has had some health issues in his family and he wanted to be there for them. He will be back tonight."


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Thanks for making this Country your Home.
If I'm lucky enough to ever have that Gentleman in my AO, he will be treated to a 'gator and hog hunt and backwater time off the Keys and in the Everglades.
Thanks for making this Country your Home.
i think its speaks for itself. good one!
Glad to see that. The politicians usually don't like to be proven wrong repeatedly. It seems like they were trying to rush him off.
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?" -Thomas Jefferson-
"Our rights come from our humanity and may not be legislated away -- not by a vote of Congress, not by the consensus of our neighbors, not even by agreement of all Americans but one." Judge Andrew P. Napolitano
What Id like to know is how did this indivudal get to speak in person with these politicans. usally the only ones that are allowed to speak are the ones that are invited by a political rep. this may be the case here. I believe the bell was sounded three times for this young man to wrap up his statement and he kept going Good for him!. politicans are like children if they hear something they do not like they try and change the subject quickly or try and give you the bums rush as they attempted to do here. but it didnt quite happen the way the old politicans wanted it to happen. We had an instance here where a man wore his firearm to a councel meeting I belive it was, one politican wanted the man to take off his firearm and secure it, he did not The political rep then asked for the rest of the counsel to cancle the meeting, they did notdo so. instead they wanted to hear what the citizan had to say regarding new gun laws that may be preposed. The politican who wanted the man to remove his firearm from the counsel chambers, got up and stormed out just like a little kid and of course hes a whinning democrat. Actually I have a cure when election time comes and political representives call my house, I have already looked up thier records and see where they stand on the 2nd Amendment, and if they have voted in anyway that is against the 2nd amendment rights I tell them NO I dont have time to talk with you nor will I speak with any politican who wishes to violate citizans rights and I do tell them since the calls are recorded do not call me again, And I tell them what my political affilation is and I will not change, if you continue to call my home I will file a harrassment charges against you with your political party ( majority of politicans here are old democrats who just spend spend spend, and pull bs over the publics eyes. and yet they still dont see what is going on. Yes I belive in a two party system, its just that the democrats arnt one of them!. No offence to those democrats who belive in the constitution and citizans rights and who want to make a change that will benfit all citizans of this country. But the best thing for them to do is change parties becvause surely as long as they stay there, the chances iof them becomming more narrow minded, and out of touch they will become with the american citizan, and not to mention just plane breaking the rules as they do now. Just for a moment if you steal from your employer, your likly to loose your job on the light end! if yoru company has a hardline policy against theft your going to be charged arrested and you get a free ride to jail. I say whayt is good for the american citizan is good enough for elected officals
look at pelosi she abused the use of a Jet Supplied by the United States Air Force, to many personal trips, unauthorized personal aboard the aircraft, not to mention thousands of dollars in top shelf booze to impress who? no -one importiant. Im sorry but the people of califorina have to wake up and get rid of these people these are the type of people that are going to take your rights and freedoms away. My other half bitches about what is going on with 2nd amendment rights and how we may loose them, ( as you can tell by now we are a diffrent ends of the political table of which I do not budge!) and she says well what the hell can I do about it. I tell her plain and simple1 you got a big yap use it for something good! not just in the back ground! and in silence where you wont be heard. Sound off like you have a pair. and I added do just wait for someone else to do it for you! See whaty happened in Califirina, and in new York with people who just want to make a political name fior themselfs. my brother whos in Ny is bitching about Cuomo, I asked him dod you vote , he replied no I forgot, I told him no your to damm lazy! so now every gun that I gave him is now illegal by new york law. and since they were regestered to me to begin with, He had to return them to me. and he thinks that I'm the bad guy.Im not the one who wrote the law. go bitch to the govonor or anyother political rep you didnt vote for.and see how far you get. in the mean time I have my weapons back, Im sorry that I had to take them back, but Im not going to go to jail for something I had nothing to do with and I refuse to take anychances with these crazed politicans running around making laws in the middle of the night. I just suggest all of us watch and be wary of politicans who state they are on our side when in fact there is no actual hard evidence to prove so....Doc
Excellent, thank you! Good to see some immigrants understand our rights. Too bad more natural born American do not have this understanding.
Thanks for that. God Bless that guy! We need more people like him in the U.S.
Good points made about cities of Chicago and NY having toughest gun controls and worst records...
God so loved the world He gave his only Son...
...Believe in Him and have everlasting life.
John 3:16
Koreans are RED-ASSED! (Old Cavalry Term).
THAT is the kind of immigrant we need. One who:
a: Assimilates into Society.
b: Learns to speak, read, and write in English.
c: Takes the time to get involved in the process.
d: Cares.
I'll take one of him vs. 10,000 of the other kind. Something tells me that this guy pulls his own weight, and pays the freight for his family too.
This is a TRUE AMERICAN!
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The company says to expect availability the week of February 25.
At the time of the GK110 launch at GTC, we didn't know if and when GK110 would ever make it down to consumer hands. From a practical perspective GTX 680 was still clearly in the lead over AMD's Radeon HD 7970. Meanwhile the Titan supercomputer was a major contract for NVIDIA, and something they needed to prioritize. 18,688 551mm2 GPUs for a single customer is a very large order, and at the same time orders for Tesla K20 cards were continuing to pour in each and every day after GTC. In the end, yes, GK110 would come to the consumer market. But not until months later, after NVIDIA had the chance to start filling Tesla orders. And today is that day.
Much like the launch of the GTX 690 before it, NVIDIA intends to stretch this launch out a bit to maximize the amount of press they get. Today we can tell you all about Titan – its specs, its construction, and its features – but not about its measured performance. For that you will have to come back on Thursday, when we can give you our benchmarks and performance analysis.
$2600 in Vid Cards? You going to work for Pixar or something?
Might need to step it up to 2011 sooner than later
The titan is 65-85% of the power of a 690
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Classic Wineseller's February LIVE Music Series Opens Friday, February 7
|Arts & Entertainment
|The Classic Wineseller
|20 Church Street, Waynesville, NC
|Kay S. Miller
|Feb 07, 2014
Waynesville, NC - The Classic Wineseller, 20 Church Street, opens its February live music series with husband-wife duo, Dana and Susan Robinson on Friday February, 7 at 7pm. The Wineseller's restaurant opens at 5:30pm on Fridays and Saturdays serving freshly prepared small plate fare. There is a $10 per person minimum on live music nights which includes food, drink, and retail purchases. Reservations are accepted between 6pm and 7pm by calling 828-452-6000.
The genius of a Dana and Susan Robinson performance lies in their ability to capture the imagination of their audience, evoking a transformative experience that touches on the deepest humanity. They can make the audience howl with laughter or hush with poignant reflection as they take them on a journey across America and convey the mystery and wonder of the places they visit.
A native of the Pacific Northwest, Dana Robinson relocated to New England where he discovered both a thriving songwriters scene and the deep well of traditional mountain music. In the early 1980's, Robinson settled in northern Vermont and built a house "off the grid" (no electricity and phone) on 30 acres near the Canadian border. There he founded a popular bakery, café and folk music venue. Robinson began touring full-time after the release of his 1994 debut CD, Elemental Lullabye, and after a performance at Carnegie Hall in New York City for Putumayo's Shelter benefit project.
Sue Robinson grew up in a musical family in New England. She studied piano, oboe, and Scottish fiddle before meeting Dana in 2002. Sue was working in the environmental field in California when she met Dana at a house concert. After moving to North Carolina a short time thereafter, she started studying with many of the great oldtime musicians in the Asheville area, and naturally adapted to the on-the-road lifestyle.
Dana and Susan Robinson are two guitar-playing, banjo-frailing, fiddle-sawing, and harmony-singing interpreters of the American experience. Their unique blend of contemporary songwriting and traditional Appalachian music bring to their performances a deep understanding of America's musical heritage.
On Saturday, February 8 at 7pm, the Classic Wineseller presents an evening of swing music with Michael Pilgrim mandolin; Drew Kirkpatrick guitar; and, Don Mercz guitar. Mike Pilgrim and Don Mercz have been playing music together for over 30 years. Newcomer Drew Kirkpatrick shares their affinity for the passionate and exhilaratingly up-tempo Gypsy jazz and swing music.
Sheila Gordon plays and sings the music of Carole King on Friday, February 14 at 7pm. Ms. Gordon has been playing piano and singing her way in to the hearts of thousands since she was a young girl. Earlier in her career, Ms. Gordon was the star attraction at a piano bar in Nashville, TN where she held the title for ten years. She has performed hundreds of concerts including a special event for former vice president and presidential candidate, Al Gore, and 5,000 of his supporters and friends. Sheila Gordon's beautiful voice moves effortlessly between musical genres such as blues, jazz, gospel, and popular music.
Enjoy a show dedicated to the Valentine's theme on Saturday, February 15 as jazz vocalist Eve Haslam brings to life many of the love songs popularized by Barbra Streisand and other performers. One of Haslam's favorite Streisand songs is "How Does Wine Taste" (composed by Matt Dubey and Harold Karr) from the 1964 PEOPLE album. She will be joined by Simon George on piano, and Shannon Hoover on string bass. The evening includes a delicious four course dinner and show for $29.99 per person plus tax & gratuity.
This year marks the fifth year for the collaboration of Ms. Haslam and Satin Steel Jazz. They are on track to release a second album later this year entitled, "Beautiful Love."
On Friday, February 21 at 7pm, experience the music of vocal powerhouse, CaroMia Tiller at the Classic Wineseller. Tiller's live musical presence has been compared to Janis Joplin, Adele, and even, "Ray Charles in a little white girl's body".
Tiller's biography reads like an adventure novel. From a very young age, the free-spirited Tiller has been making her own rules. The soul-shaking power behind her voice seems to draw on a few lifetimes' worth of experience. From a world of inspiration Tiller distills an arresting and immediately recognizable sound: her own signature blend of rootsy Americana, Soul and Blues.
Joe Cruz is back on Saturday, February 22 performing the top hits of the Beatles and Elton John. Cruz grew up in a musical family in New York City, playing and singing in church from a young age. He became a regular on the New York club scene and has opened for Chicago, Bonnie Raitt, Santana, and Average White Band. Cruz resides in Haywood County with his wife, Tracey, and their daughters.
Singer-songwriter and one man band, Jay Brown performs Friday, February 28 at 7pm. Brown has spent years traveling and playing across the U.S. taking in its rich musical heritage. He has performed with the Old Crow Medicine Show and shared the stage with musical legends, Etta Baker and Doc Watson.
On Saturday, March 1, guitar sensation Jacob Johnson performs at 7pm. Johnson is a young, energetic performer who has shared the stage with songwriting masters from Edwin McCain to David Wilcox, and who hangs out with guitar heroes like Tommy Emmanuel, and Tim Reynolds (right-hand man to Dave Matthews). While it is his flashy guitar pyrotechnics that might grab your attention, his songwriting, personality, and performance style are what set him apart from the rest of the young guitar-slinging pack. In short, to quote Tommy Emmanuel, "Jacob rocks!"
His debut CD offering, Est. 1986, ranges from Dylan-esque folk tunes to quirky ballads, such as the love song to his guitar, "Treat Her Right." Johnson shows that great music doesn't always have to be serious. The CD has an intimacy to it that makes you feel like he is right there in the room with you while you listen. Johnson likes to call his style of playing "Neo-acoustic folk/funk".
In live performances, his off-the-cuff sense of humor and tongue-in-cheek sensibility disarm the audience and leave them unprepared for his multilayered guitar mastery. Johnson thumps, taps and slaps his guitar into submission, weaving a musical tapestry that usually climbs to sonic frenzy while never losing its balance or control. He delivers thoughtful and realistic lyrics with a wry sort of charisma. He has been compared to John Mayer, James Taylor, Jack Johnson and Keller Williams. For more information on Jacob Johnson, visit www.jacobjohnsontunes.com.
The complete February schedule includes:
Friday, February 7 - Dana & Susan Robinson guitar, banjo, fiddle, vocals. Folk
Saturday, February 8 - Mike Pilgrim mandolin; Don Mercz guitar; Drew Kirkpatrick guitar. Swing
Friday, February 14 - Sheila Gordon keyboard, vocals. Chris Minick trumpet, guitar, harmonica, vocals. An evening of Carole King songs
Saturday, February 15 - Valentine's Weekend Dinner + Concert: Eve Haslam Sings Streisand and Other Love Songs. Eve Haslam, jazz vocals; Simon George, piano; Shannon Hoover, string bass. Four course dinner and concert, $29.99 per person plus tax & gratuity
Friday, February 21 - CaroMia Tiller guitar, vocals. Americana, soul, blues
Saturday, February 22 - Joe Cruz piano, vocals. Beatles & Elton John
Friday, February 28 - Jay Brown guitar, harmonica, vocals: folk, blues, Americana Roots
Saturday, March 1 - Jacob Johnson guitar, vocals. Neo-acoustic folk-funk
The Classic Wineseller, Waynesville's premier retail wine and craft beer shop, small plate restaurant, and intimate live music venue presents local, regional, or national talent each Friday and Saturday night at 7pm in the underground environs at 20 Church Street, Waynesville.


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