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looks like we have a winner!!!
good job hotbarrel, 7.629.
Well I have good news for everybody except the one guy who wanted to avoid making the relief cut in his receiver stub.
This was the first time I've attempted to remove a stub without making the cut. On the FALs I've demilled previously, I took the advise of the FAL gurus over at the files and made the cut before even attempting it.
After hearing the horror stories about 3 foot cheater bars and broken vises, I figured I would take advantage of their experience.
But I wanted to give HB's tools the toughest test I could. So I clamped it all in the vise and began tugging. I have a high quality (read heavy) 6 inch vise on a 8' bench constructed out of 4x4s with a 2" thick work surface (read heavy) I have never had the bench even move before tonight. I waltzed that bench all around the shop and hung my 245lb frame off the breaker bar, but the barrel never budged. The barrel wrench finally failed.
The good news is two fold, first, I exerted way more force than would ever be required to time the barrel on an Assembly or do a relief cut demill before it failed. second even with all that force and ultimate tool failure, the flats on the barrel were still mint.
Lastly, it wasn't the tool or design that failed it was the steel itself. If someone really had to do an uncut demill, the tool will need to be hardened.
Now the pics
1) good solid lock up on the receiver
2) damage to wrench
3) barrel flats after failure.
looks like we have a winner!!!
good job hotbarrel, 7.629.
Yes, We do.
Even with all the loading I put on it, the receiver never budged and since HB re contoured it, there is now plenty of clearance around the two weak points of the receiver (gas tube nut threads and cocking lever slot) so you will never need to worry about distorting them.
For anybody unfamiliar with relief cut I referred to, there is more info on that here.
that is great news.and the pics look great too. !! again I can not thank you enough for your testing. if you send the part that finaly gave up back I am very happy to fill and fix it for you. N.C. now that I know what I am actualy looking for I will start some work finish cutting the rest of the parts.
everyone . if you did send your payment as requested I hope to get your tool set out as soon as I can. I do believe only 2 guys sent me a payment so I will clearly have some openings for the extras. it is very hard to guess how many will actualy compleat so I will give everyone a bit more time now that we have a sucksesfull tool , then I will let them go off a second list.
if you want OUT of the tool that is fine with me believe me their is never any hard feelings, just let me know and I can get your set to someone else that is all.
thanks again to all HB
I am off the page for extended times due to job requirements, not gone forever
thanks muttman
this kind of stuff is real fun, how often do we get to combine everyones input to design the tool that we want, then go through trial manufacturing, see it go into testing then refinement, followed up with the results we were looking for. how can this NOT be fun?? I know it was for me and I hope all of you enjoyed the entire transformation as much as I do.
thanks again HB
I am off the page for extended times due to job requirements, not gone forever
HB, check your PM when you get a chance and add me to the list please.
Good Ole Boy from a Good Ole Place
HB - at this point I'm not sure I'm in or on a second list. Either way I want the set. Thanks.
Thank You, but that's not even necessary. The wrench is thick enough, so that all I need to do is turn it around and use the other side. Kinda like two tools for the price of one. lolOriginally Posted by hotbarrel
Actually, I see it as a safety valve. With the barrel made out of harder steel than the wrench, under extreme situations such as this, the wrench will fail before you *#%@ up your barrel.
It takes only about 125ft. lbs. to time the barrel when reassembling, a relief cut demill, takes very little (maybe 20-25). I estimate I had at least 200ft. lbs (probably more) on it when it failed.
Looks good! Can't wait to get my tools and try them out. Now I just have to wait on my receivers to get here!
well here we are again.. all 8 of the tools are finished!!
7.62 has one and I have recieved orders for only 3 more, I asked for mo's a couple WEEKS ago, pleanty of time, so I hate to do it BUT this happens every time, "many never come through" SO here is what I am going to do.
I am going to ship in order that payments arive! any payments that arive AFTER they are gone I am very happy to returne, no hard feelings.
forget the list... they are all good till 1/2 the guys do not follow up, then guys that do honestly want the parts end up hangging..
NO I have NEVER done this before and NO I do not like it, I have ALLWAYS waited and waited, sent reminders, let things go on and on. I gave guys on a list every oppertunity.
I do not want to be a bad guy here, however I do not want others that are truley intrested missing out either.
Is this fare,, well maby not BUT either is getting on a list and not sending payment when requested, not even sending a pm to let me know you are out.. a pm for delay or out is all it takes, no hard feelings..
I just do not understand.
this is why I make most things to order..
I still have a pile of yugo parts that were spoken for but guys that signed up never followed up on.
as for makeing more FAL wrenches... I do not know, it will depend on material.
as I packed up the three to ship tonight I got a bit upset , maby I should not be posting what I am mad.. but oh well...
what the heck should I do, hole the parts indefinatly in case someone comes back in a month and says they want one and they were on a list.. {yes it happenes}
I am open to suggestions ... you tell me what do I do
1 hold parts indefinalty
2 get them to guys in a firts come method
3 something else
to the guys that wanted in on the second list. I truely APPOLIGIZE. send the payment fast if you want one . that is the best I can do rite now.
NO this is not fun!!
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Herman Cain—The New GOP Darling
Original post made by Cindy Cross, Parkside, on Oct 13, 2011
Rick Perry and Mitt Romney have spent so much time squabbling back and forth to notice that Herman Cain is now the number one GOP candidate in opinion polls.
If Cain wins the GOP nomination—is he electable? Many Americans know very little about the man who has never held a position in public office.
Cain is better known as the former chairman and CEO of Godfather's Pizza. Prior to his career at Godfather's Pizza, Cain was the Chairman of the Board at the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. Does this set off alarm bells for anyone? I can see millions of dollars going into Cain's election coffer from banks frothing at the thought of an American president being in their back pocket.
Congressman Ron Paul (R-Texas) had issues with Cain's comments about auditing The Federal Reserve. "Mr. Cain, in the past you have been rather critical of any of us who would want to audit the Fed. You have said -- you've used pretty strong terms, that we were ignorant and that we didn't know what we are doing, and therefore, there was no need for an audit anyway, because if you had one, you're not going to find out anything, because everybody knows everything about the Fed. But now that we have found and we have gotten an audit, we have found out an awful lot on how special businesses get bailed out -- Wall Street, the banks, and special companies, foreign governments. And you said that you advise those of us who were concerned, and you belittled -- you say call up the Federal Reserve and just ask them. ... Do you still stick by this, that that this is frivolous, or do you think it's very important? Sixty-four percent of the American people want a full audit of the Fed on a regular basis."
Cain denied making the criticism, but was told that his quote had been recorded.
Much has been heard of Cain's 9-9-9 program. His plan would create a flat 9% personal income tax, 9% corporate tax, and 9% national sales tax. So would he also eliminate the corporate subsidies and tax credits? Would the tax breaks for the top 1% of America stay in place?
Imagine a president who would side with banks. Imagine a president who called people out on the street protesting for the survival of the middle class a bunch of, "un-American" and "jealous" people. "Don't blame Wall Street, don't blame the big banks, if you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself!" Cain said. "It is not a person's fault because they succeeded; it is a person's fault if they failed. And so this is why I don't understand these demonstrations and what is it that they're looking for."
Is Cain out of touch with every day middle class people, or is Cain right?
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a resident of Livermore
on Oct 14, 2011 at 12:08 pm
It's a bit early to believe that it means anything this early. About a month before the election, if Cain is still around, I'll be very surprised.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 15, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Cain sounds better than Obama, and while not ideal, the lesser of two evils would be Cain.
a resident of Ponderosa
on Oct 15, 2011 at 6:59 pm
Well thought out, my 2 cents. I suppose you'd also like back that penny you have coming back to you? For I couldn't in good conscience take your entire 2 cents for the opinion you've offered. It's not worth that much.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 16, 2011 at 8:27 pm
He would be an OK VP for Mitt.
a resident of Livermore
on Oct 17, 2011 at 5:48 pm
Cain is a Black man, that's why he's is not able to raise $$$$$$$$ like Romney & the white Texan, what's his name.
It's nice to pump him up on a blog, it's quite anothers to give him your hard earned money and vote for him in the secrecy of a ballot box.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 17, 2011 at 9:23 pm
That's right - every time something doesn't go your way, blame it on racism.
Does it ever get tiring to have such a distorted view of the world? Or does it make you sleep better at night knowing you can blame any personal failures on someone else?
All those out there that cry wolf with regards to racism are doing a diservice to those times when it really does happen.
a resident of Parkside
on Oct 18, 2011 at 8:50 am
obama is black and although he can garner large corp and personal donations from his leftist compatriots, he is unqualified to lead this country. But, it would not matter whether he was brown or yellow, he is still leading in the competition for the worst president ever. Herman Cain knows this and so do the rest of the candidates. Anyone but obami........
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 18, 2011 at 9:18 am
I honestly don't care if the person running for office is white, black, green, or purple! I do care if they have too much experience and reliance on BIG Oil, BIG Banks, and lots of money!! I'd like to see GOP get a moderate in! I looked up some of Cain's background, and am iffy on his "Fed's" stance; just like I don't like Perry's right-wing extremism. I'm tired of voting for the "lesser" of two evils. I wish we had a third party that is "by the people" and "for the people" instead of the extremist ones we have. Nobody represents the majority of the taxpaying middle class anymore - neither Democrats with their socialist agenda or Republicans with their entitlements to big business and the rich.
a resident of Danbury Park
on Oct 18, 2011 at 10:25 am
It does not really matter to me at all. Voted for Obama last time and was fooled. I will vote for anyone running against him this time and for the elected officials in this state as well. Out with the old and in with the new I say.
a resident of Livermore
on Oct 18, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Cain is a black man. That matters to Caucasoid Americans. The truth hurts.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 18, 2011 at 10:38 pm
Cain isn't a serious candidate and Ron Paul had it right in the quote.
a resident of Livermore
on Oct 31, 2011 at 8:52 pm
I understand that he settled 2 sexual harassment complaints!
B U S T E D! cain is over...he haw!
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You'll also find good transport connections: 12min walking to Bolhão and São Bento metro station, both connect with the airport.
Enjoy breakfast or a glass of wine in your private balcony by the river Douro - a genuine Porto experience!
House rulesLocated in a modern building, 3rd floor with elevator, the apartment has all the facilities for a short stay, and the comfort for a longer family holiday:
- Bedroom 1 (one double bed 140x200cm)
- Bedroom 2 (two single beds 90x200cm each)
- Living room with sofa bed (160x200cm)
- Kitchen equipped with all cooking utilities (stove, oven, fridge, freezer, microwave, toaster, kettle, mixer)
- Bathroom with bathtub, shower, soap, hair dryer and washing machine
- Free bed linen and towels
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- Balcony facing the river Douro
- 1 parking place (7€/day extra fee)
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The apartment is very well maintained, spaceous and comfortable, in a very quite, yet central zone. Upon arrival, we were excellently and gently received and provided with many helpful informations about the city, points of interest, restaurants etc. I can only fully recommend staying there ;-)
To be a guest in the apartment of the family Oliveira was a great pleasure.The appartment is wonderful, the family is very hospitable and very cooperative. Coudn't be better.Excellent hosts!!
It's a great pleasure to recommend the appartement and espacially it's host. Questions in advance and during the stay were answered immediately. Even when we had problems with our flight (cancellation just some hours before the planned depature, new arrival after midnight), Alexandra was always reachable and flexible. Her father welcomed us late-night and was very friendly. Even if it was already late, he took his time to explain us everything about Porto. In addition, he offered us a bottle of water and wine and heated the flat in advance. Excellent hosts!
we had a wonderful short stay in porto - even for two nights alexandra and her father took all the efforts to help us finding the right places - thans for the hospitality - the situation of appartment and appartment itself is perfect for a city trip
We had a great stay at Porto. The flat is very nice with a fantastic view. Alexandra is a wonderful host, had many tipps for where to go, what to see and if you have any questions, she is allways willing to answer.
Nico und Isa
Alexandra was an excellent host, meeting us as arranged and then giving us a run-down of the apartment, the neighbourhood and Porto in general. She had suitable materials and guides ready to assist us with our time in Porto.
We found the apartment in excellent condition with all materials available. The views from the apt were as described and the location close to all the attractions.
Alexandra responded promptly to all queries and any request for assistance. I would have no hesitation recommending this accomodation to anyone who wants to spend time in Porto.
Very nice flat, situated perfectly to visit the city. Very nice reception. Strongely recommended.
Very nice attentive hostess. Much information sent by email in advance. We got a map of Porto made by her with notes of routes, restaurants, transport etc. Bottle of wine and glasses were ready as welcome. Beautiful spacious apartment, conveniently located
Unbedingt empfehlenswert, highly recommended.
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The flat is very nice and clean. The balcony and the view ... lovely.
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Keith Bunker - the downside of feeling well
Keith Bunker has liver cancer, and has speaks to James every month or so about his experience of living with a terminal illness. The generosity of his insights have always left us speechless and amazed. Listen for yourself here (from March) and here (from May).
This week, Keith spoke to James about the strange cruelty of regaining a sense of normality in life when you're feeling well.


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"Henderson was pulled over May 4 on suspicion of speeding, and Oxford Police officer Shane Fortner smelled marijuana in Henderson's vehicle, according to the police report. Henderson gave Fortner a bag containing "a small nugget of marijuana," according to Fortner's report, and a search by a police dog turned up a clear plastic bag that contained "a small amount of what appeared to be cocaine," a report from another officer, Mark Hodges, said.
Hodges's report notes that the district attorney wouldn't prosecute if the bag contained less than one-tenth of a gram of cocaine.
Henderson was cited for no proof of liability insurance and given a court date of May 15, Fortner's report said. It wasn't immediately clear how the citation was adjudicated. No other charges were filed against Henderson."
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A family consists of a householder and one or more other persons living in the same household who are related to the householder by birth, marriage, or adoption. All persons in a household who are related to the householder are regarded as members of his or her family. A household can contain only one family for purposes of census tabulations. Not all households contain families since a household may comprise a group of unrelated persons or one person living alone. Families are classified by type as either a "married couple family" or "other family" according to the sex of the householder and the presence of relatives. The data on family type are based on answers to questions on sex and relationship which were asked on a 100-percent basis.
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forum: Chicken
#51 Tue 26 Jun 12 3:17pm
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Re: New to keeping chickens in the garden - help needed
Just bought a new turkey at the weekend ready for xmas, I was pleased to see that a different variety were being sold at the local market. In the past the birds only weighed in at 6lbs but this new one i have been told will reach 30lbs over the next 5 months.
I have heard many mixed opinions about keeping chickens and turkeys together but this is now the third bird Iive introduced and have not seen that many problems.
The chickens will bully the bird initially but they soon get friendly, the main way to reduce problems is to make sure you give amble food and spread it around the coup as the chickens try to prevent the turkey eating.
for a click of the new bird: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brSwmt-p6RU
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Re: New to keeping chickens in the garden - help needed
How are you getting on with that turkey leon01 ?
#53 Tue 03 Jul 12 10:34pm
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Re: New to keeping chickens in the garden - help needed
I bought a second turkey and they have settled better, the hens pecking is now shared between the 2 turkeys and its reducing each day.
The second turkey is for a friend, he is rearing geese and we will swap a bird at xmas.
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Re: New to keeping chickens in the garden - help needed
Keeping chickens: Whilst we do get foxes (and Buzzards, Sparrow Hawks, Kestrels etc.) the biggest problem with losses to our chickens has been from Badgers, those nice things that so divide the nation! They just chew the heads off, probably drink the blood, and leave them. The sight of 'Brock' pursuing a hen, pursued by our very large Golden Retriever, was a sight to be remembered, as much as a cockerel attached to my 'bro-in-law's and friend's leg each as they came down our garden one day! None were amused except the G-R - GRRRR! Brock escaped with a minor cut, 'Geraldine' hen ended up under a bookcase in the lounge!! Brock now gets fed every night and only digs up the lawn occasionally now. Another big problem with Badgers!


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Just Posted: Nikon D600 real-world sample images [UPDATED]
Just Posted: Sample images from the Nikon D600 24MP full frame DSLR. We got the chance to go shooting with the D600 in New York and have prepared a real world preview samples gallery. We grabbed a series of shots covering a range of subjects in a variety of lighting conditions to give a taste of the camera's image quality. As always original, out-of-camera, JPEGs can be downloaded for closer examination. We hope to add to the gallery as soon as we get some more time. [Updated with full ISO range series]
Click here to read our Nikon D600 hands-on preview
|Nikon D600 preview samples gallery - Posted on September 13th 2012
There are 32 images in the samples gallery. Please do not reproduce any of these images on a website or any newsletter / magazine without prior permission (see our copyright page). We make the originals available for private users to download to their own machines for personal examination or printing (in conjunction with this review), we do so in good faith, please don't abuse it.
Unless otherwise noted images taken with no particular settings at full resolution. Because our review images are now hosted on the 'galleries' section of dpreview.com, you can enjoy all of the new galleries functionality when browsing these samples.
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Ptooey. These sample images betray darkling tremors. The constrained phallic balloons are painful to my eyes. But the sprinkler hose shot has made me to guffaw if technology is so cuckholded now -- how are we not to expect quackgrass and dandelions to prosper with such a random spray pattern? But there is the statue of poet Burns, who "always despised the whining yelp of complaint." I am herewith withholding my photographic talent from the world until Nikon releases a real camera.
Below is a link to a simple noise test. Nothing scientific, but interesting IMO that at 50 ISO images look visibly softer that at 100, dunno why... At 3200 noise is becoming clearly visible.
Sorry, but these don't look all that hot to me. I don't see great resolution, great sharpness, or anything.
I come from a background of Canon, 7D and Mark II, and I sold these and am now very satisfied with the quality of, of all things, an Olympus e-m5 m43 camera (with their good lenses, of course). These look worse than what I see fro that camera.
Am I missing something?
Most of these are out of camera JPEGs. But if you think the E-M5 OOC JPEGs rival these, then you are all set for gear. But what you may be missing is that if this camera performs anywhere near the D800, you'll get 1 1/2 to 2 stops better high ISO performance, way better AF tracking, way more lenses, better DOF control, etc. Besides raw from a D600 or D800 will be about as good as it gets for anything except a Medium Format camera like a 645D or Phase One.
Maybe have a look (read: download) at these D600 samples as well, and compare them to the 5D3, 7D or your favorite EM-5 image.
Nice to see Nikon posting jpegs that at least started out as raw files.
Question. Are this images taken direct from camera or are they processed raw files?
No, DPReview states when the jpegs started out as raws.
Remember that some Nikons produce tiffs directly from the camera, so "direct from the camera" with those particular Nikons can mean a great deal more that the inadequate jpeg format. Don't know if the D600 shoots tiff, the D700 does.
Just saw a nice D600 video demo, and it really is impressive. It's all nature so no opportunity to check for moire, but if the D600 lacks the moire that exists in the D800, I may have to bag my plans to get a Fuji X-E1 to go with my D800, and get this camera. Thanks for the samples DPR, they look terrific.
D600 Video
Thanks for posting. Why didn't Nikon give ME a D600 to go and do this :-(
I want a D700s with just that sensor that's all !! Don't need polycarbontae too, to smalll body, left whell (even if it can be block, which is a plus..) Same confort, solidity as D300 or D700, but with this sensor. I don't want the D800 and his 36 Mpx
And I want a D700s with the D3s' sensor. Skip the Sony sensor.
Do you realize that the DR of the D600 matches that of D800, at least from ISO 400 as per Bill Claff's calcs. That is superior to that of the D700. Also, you are getting more MPX, if that matters. To me the DR and MPX is a bigger deal but again needs vary between person to person.
I need a machine that does not have a build quality entry level. A machine with the quality of materials and ergonomics of a D300, don't need polycarbonate holding my objective and dream with long years of good use without weaknesses that reduce the quality of images.
APS-C will have 16Mpx and a FX have 24Mpx. Ok, who needs to pay more for even more extra pixels?! And still get worse build quality?
Nikon is inappropriate in time with respect to its offer on APS-C and is lost on what they want with the FX range. Is this to open more space for the mirrorless system?
Nikon's DSLRs are of poor constrution quality, or are too expensive. Nikon will lose customers, those who can spend 2000 to 2500 USD with body and an objective. I've used a D7000, I liked the photos, but who are more than 60 minutes to shoot an event, will realize what a D300 has to give in terms of comfort that the D7000 nor dreams. Maybe I should rethink and buy a Pentax carefully built, or other brands. Disappointed I am.
They look pretty good to me at high iso when you consider the pixel count is twice that of the D700.
Question for DPReview, during processing how much was the noise filter used or are these straight from raw to jpegs?
For me the difficulty with this camera is here in the UK the price difference between the D600 and D800 is marginal. I'd be more inclined to buy the D800 for better build quality, a sync flash port and a few other odds and sods.
Looking at the photos that are provided here I'm pretty inclined to continue using my D700. Thank for letting me see the light.
Those are jpegs, how on earth can you judge image quality from jpegs?
nothing special
If I take all these pics with NEX-5N it would not be worse than these
"nothing special" is a statement about jpegs. Who cares, except those who need immediate small files for upload?
Does anybody know if Nikon is upgrading the d300 model anymore?
How can you make noise judgements based on jpegs?
Yes, and that's an observation of their JPEG engine. But when shooting at extreme sensitivities like ISO 12800+, you should definitely not use JPEG, but RAW and post-process in proper software. It's simply no question, regardless if you shoot D600, D800, or D4.
It would be amusing if the D600 produces finer images than the D800.
Assume you mean with the same lens, at the same setting, at the same ISO, capturing exactly the same scene.
Bet the D700 beats the D600 in some situations.
I don't understand how the D700 sensor could beat the D600 in any particular scenarios.
Strange feeling that you ' conned '.
Could DPReview please post a range of raws for download? Say 7 or 8 at different ISOs.
I'd bet UFRAW can open them; sure it's not ACR but it will give some idea of what a D600 raw can be.
You know it's our policy not to.
The preview photo captions states, quote: "Preview based on a production Nikon D600."
So since this is not a pre-production camera please share raws. I believe, DPReview did so with the D800 and maybe the Canon 5D MIII previews.
So no, I don't know it's the policy with production cameras. I do know that if DPReview doesn't have a beta of ACR, which supports the new raw format, then the raws don't get shared. However I have no idea what beta of ACR DPReview may or may not have.
Also fix the comments software. I logged on and couldn't post. The webpage had my screen name but the software said I'm anonymous. There's a crafty Odysseus line here.
Excellent camera, but since there are so many cameras that do extremely well at ISO 6400 and higher, the high ISO argument is not as important as it used to be. For me, these days I just want something that won't get in my way by being too big or heavy. That's why I've recently changed my way of thinking regarding what type of camera I use. I sold my D700 and currently use an E-M5. Now, I'm likely going to buy the Fuji X-E1. Why? The image quality is amazing, it's a beautiful camera, the size/weight is good and the lenses are excellent. At this point in my life, I'm interesting in being more creative and less worried about what the guy at the zoo thinks of me when he and his D3s look down on my little mirrorless camera. Besides, many of those zoo show-offs with the huge rigs are very often coming up with far less creative and compelling images than I come up with when I'm feeling free and creative with my 'little' camera. I used to be 'that guy'...
Okay, but the Olympus E-M5 doesn't do well above 1600ASA.
The Fuji XPro1 does. As will the XE1.
I think that all modern DSLRs (and some mirror-less) have reached a level of image quality that renders demo pics useless. These images could have been taken with every other serious cam as well.
It's all about features, handling, lenses and accessories that makes a system superior over another.
I agree completely. This pictures are nice and I see no flaws. However I guess that almost identical pictures could have been taken with a decent APS-C, e.g. K-5 for less than half of the price. This does not mean criticism of D600, I just mean to say that differences can be found when pixel-peeping the standard photo scene in 100% magnification, not in real life pictures.
I think you both have to wait for a range of raws, instead of making claims based on jpegs shot with one lens.
they are ok pics...i guess we wait for more to really see what this camera can do..
More importantly, let see how nikon quality control fares!
I always wait 6 months beore purchasing a new nikon dslr, its not like the good old days for nikon, way too many manufacturing defects that are not recognized or acknowledged by Nikon. Even after the complaints go public, remember the d7000 oil spray issue or the d80 aperture control module failure?
And nikon customer support really sucks, maybe some day the name will regain it's glory.
all the camera manufacturers have quality control issues tho. it's not like the old days because they are producing so many more units at a faster rate. still...no excuse for sloppy QC!
Where are some low light indoor photographs.......
ISO performance is one stop better than my Nikon D5100....
this was the first impression...detailed analysis will be done by dpreview :P
Agreed. I think many, many users do not realize that aps-c cameras have come a very long way, and that 24x36 sensor won't bring much to the table, actually. One stop advantage at high iso is really not worth it, imo. As aps-c sensor are produced at a much bigger scale, the development is much faster than for FF cameras. Hence, the price of aps-c sensors has come down quite a lot. The difference in price between a FF and a APS camera is quite big (D7000 vs D600n similar body), but performance is very, very close actually.
But in many people's minds, the FF SLR was and remains the be-all and end-all thing to have in a photographer's bag.
Full frame cameras are meant for rich and professional photographers....if i have money for d600 then i will try to save more money for D800...
Why are any of y'all having this discussion based on jpegs?
Who cares about claims of sensor performance based on jpegs?
"I think many, many users do not realize that aps-c cameras have come a very long way, and that 24x36 sensor won't bring much to the table, actually" - By photofan1986 (5 hours ago)
FF isn't just about ISO performance; the difference in DOF is limited by physics and can't be overcome with any improvement in sensor tech. I'm not saying FF is superior ro APS-C, but sensor size matters for those who require shallow DOF.
@ ashwins - no doubt its asking for a lot, but chronologically speaking, looking at the gradual progression of sensor technology, from the days of the D3S to the D4, 5D III & 1D X of today... it is an imminent reality that higher MP sensors will produce cleaner results at high ISO's... whether of not Nikon have managed to achieve this is another question altogether... but I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt until an official review...
I suspect A99 will give similar result.
Sony uses the SLT technolgy which means that about 30% of the light isn't used by the sensor so the same sensor should give better results on Nikon (at least in terms of IQ).
Exactly. As the example of NEX7/a77 (and other NEX/SLT cameras with identical sensor) shows, the SLT technology gives a slightly worse outcome just because of less light getting through the semi-transparent mirror. For the same reason I guess that RX1 pictures will be better than a99 pics, despite having the same sensor.
Here A99 real samples:
No SLT cameras don't do well in lowlight because of the mirror. The same sensor in a mirrorless or slr system does better in lowlight. It's not simply math.
"Glass in front of the sensor", ironic that you bring that up.
I'm a long time fan of DPR, but recently it starts to irritates me. This post should show us the sample pictures of D600, what annoys me is that it took 5-6 steps before I can actually see the sample pictures.
Did you also complain to your car's manufacturer that you actually have to leave your house, unlock the car - albeit with the remote - get in and start it, before being able to drive off? I had no issue with the speed of accessinng the photos and actually appreciated the fact that these were posted this soon. Well done, DPREVIEW!
Well, it's a different story for your example is unavoidable and you should have to go through that step before the other one. Isn't it a wonderful experience for the readers of DPR if they saw to post "We uploaded sample image of D600" and after they click the link we can go directly on photo gallery? http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/reviewsamples/albums/nikon-d600-preview-samples/slideshow
I think we used different links. It seems the "Samples Gallariy" link at the top of the screen takes you back to the home screen, which is obviously a mistake in the configuration. I clicked on the image of the gallery and it took me directly to it. However, I know how easy one can make such a mistake when you do things in a hurry - although I agree it is not professional to make mistakes - albeit quite human :-).
Just got back from NYC where I made a bunch of street images with my GRD III. To say that these city street shots are a bit cleaner and more detailed would be a bit of an understatement.
I don't know if the D600's high ISO is as good as the D800, but the images are bright, clean, sharp and colorful, even at high ISO. I see very little at all to complain about. Nice job DPR. Thanks.
The night shots looked a little noisy to me @ 6400 ISO.
The DPReview D600 are jpegs. No, they did not start out as raws, or DPReview would have noted that fact.
in the past 100 iso/asa was considered fast. Yet, beautiful pictures were made by famous photographers. Nowadays people just care how it performs on 6400 iso or higher.
You think you can shoot better pictures if you have 256000 iso grainless?
I'm sure its a very nice camera in all aspects, its just that for me a camera that limits you makes me more creative.
Good for you. I shoot in dimly lit venues and I need the ISO.
With my compact APS-C Canon G1X
I shoot noisefree ISO3200 images
And even ISO12800 ones are pretty usable.
If I thought about buying D600 and upgrading to FF,
I'd expect it to deliver results at least on the same level as my tiny G1X with 28-112 fix.
Nowadays, good ISO3200-12800 performance is a MUST, especially for the FF.
In the past, 100 was considered fast and 400 was blazing (don't know about you but I'm talking about film starting with my first SLR in '79). Nowadays I myself care not just about how my camera can perform at 6400 however, I do have needs for it to shoot cleanly at 3200/6400. For those who don't have the need, buy pretty much any modern camera. Likely the raws will looks better as usually is the case. There's nothing wrong with having a tool that makes your job easier.
RE. You think you can shoot better pictures if you have 256000 iso grainless?
Hell ya!
"johnbee (13 min ago)
RE. You think you can shoot better pictures if you have 256000 iso grainless?
Hell ya!"
It will allow us to shoot in the situations where we could not take any pictures before.
Less grain/NR artefacts = better looking picture
Everyone who posesses "creative eye" will appreciate improvements in HiISO performance.
You are completely right.
If "less than APS-C" G1X sensor can do clean ISO3200-12800,
expectations for a FF should be even higher, shouldn't they?
"You think you can shoot better pictures if you have 256000 iso grainless?"
That would enable me to shoot 2-page spreads with a hand-held 3000mm f/45 Gezornplotz.
Is the purpose of these images to showcase the 24-120/4 or to showcase the abilities of the D600? The answer is obviously the 24-120, or else Nikon's best lenses would have been used: The 14-24, 24G, 35G, 85G, 200G, 70-200VRII, etc.
Another basically useless 'review'/'preview' by DPR.
The 24-120 is included as a kit lens in one of the d600 release packages. I think it's pretty clear the camera does just fine with the lens. In fact, dpr are doing folks a service in giving an accurate idea of what can be expected out of the gate, particularly if your new to nikon or can't budget for the pricey lenses.
Yeah, I'm not that impressed. Poor contrast and flattish color reproduction. Would like to see some RAW examples with the 24-70 or 70-200. And apart from the lens, I'm not that impressed with the amount of grain in the shadows and low light capability. ISO 6400 looks just barely OK. Also a lot of these photos look slightly overexposed to me.
Barney got the camera at midnight last night, this is not actually our review. If it were we're be calling it a review and probably would've put a bit more time into it.
Thanks for the clarification, Simon.
@Toccata47...sorry but there isn't a D600 kit available at the moment with 24-120 f/4. I checked with the Nikon distributor who confirmed only two options at the moment - body only and combo with 'affordable' 24-85VR. H ehinted a possibility of 18-300VR in the future, but not 24-120 f/4.
we'll post more later. there's no prizes any more for being the last to publish. this is just to whet the appetite.
@babola: A DX kit lens for an FX camera? Uh, no.
I ow a D40, D200, Fuji S5 and a NEX-7, among other dusty things in my shelves and, if I compare, there is really nothing to be exited about. So, in exception of a lot of noise and a waste of money this D600, sames as Alpha 99 will not make your day, as I can find out by myself. I downed other samples form other sites, including Nikon, there was nothing that made my wallet jump out of my pocket. I am not religious, i compare what is comparable.
What are you on about ? You allready own 3 DSLR's and one high end mirorless and you are considering investing another 2 grand in a DSLR ?
The D600 will wipe the floor with a D40, D200, S5.
Just as any recent FF camera will.
Can you spell "j p e g" ?
That's hardly a reason to call 24-120 f4 a poor lens. Don't believe the Internet reports some would lead you to believe re quality and performance of this lens, the chroma level on this lens shouldn't be a reason for anyone's concern. Yes, it's not perfect lens but which lens in this zoom range is? I have been shooting both 24-120 f4 and 24-70 f2.8 and I'm yet to see a noticeable difference in CA between these two, that's in REAL life what I mean, not the pixel peeper's lab-rat test of posted on the Internet.
Hmm... even viewing enlargements of the "Original" images, they don't seem light years better than m4/3s, e.g., Oly OM-D EM-5 can do nowadays. Some of these nighttime, high-ISO shots too are very chroma blurred, again not all that different than m4/3s or ASP-C.
Did you ever consider the fact that these might be jpegs with in-camera noise reduction ?
Nikon Raw files are far better than jpegs.
Couldn't care less about daytime, more interested in high ISO performance.
Another huge hit for Nikon. Great color and sharpness.
Drawing conclusions form the first samples is a waste of time. All we know is that images have been recorded. It is up to more comprehensive use by many more people before we can pass judgement on this camera. After that, we will make our decisions as to the best camera we can afford to make the precious photos that we will upload as 800 pixel JPGs or as 720P videos to YouTube. ;)
Holy carp, I almost fell out of my chair when I read "we got a chance to go shooting with the D600 in New York". Give ME that chance, please!
I like what I see. I see more resolution and about the same noise, if not less than the D700. The colors stay strong and real at high ISO.
I personally think and for my work, this is a better compromise than the D800 - which is not really a shining high ISO monster. I was slighty disappointed by the D800 images. You got tons of resolution, but on the other hand it showed a very processed look, noise showing up very early, albeit very thin. Which is no surprise of course. But these D600 images are very clean at low ISO.
I would like to buy it as a backup body to my D700. And give the movie feature a shot, would love to play with with 1.4 lenses. And use it when 24MP is needed (bigger prints etc...)
But I'm going to hold it out until the price comes down a bit.
I am by no means very knowlegable it iso and stuff. But being used to my D90 those ISO 6400 shots are impressive! Especally when I'm afraid to go over 1000-1250 on my D90!
How can we be sure these weren't taken with, say, a Nokia Lumia 920?
I agree.
Nikon jpegs are notoriously dull, unless customised otherwise. You should really be looking at raw files, as soon as they become available.
Verdadinha...Faziam isto, há quase 12 anos !
Really...!?...Notoriously dull...?
That certain other camera test site has samples up with many showing the same scene at different ISOs. ISO 1600 is nearly free of noise. Great camera for those old primes that APS-C cameras made too telephoto.
We're in the process of uploading ours.
24MP + flaky Wi-Fi is not a classic combination.
No, just trying to get them off a laptop and onto the internet.
And, if by 'the other guys' you mean Imaging Resource, we thought it would be more meaningful to wait until we had some shots in daylight before putting up a gallery.
That's understandable about the WiFi - sometimes LTE works better if you (or Barney) is out of the office.
This was my sarcastic way of saying I'm impressed with how quickly you've moved here - and, yes, some daylight shots is a good idea! By the way, good choice of lens here - "the other guys" didn't seem to figure that out, either.
What about ISO 12800 and 25600?
The last 2 pictures in the collection, although it's not stated, were taken at 12800 and 25600 ISO. Given that the Aperture is constant and the shutter speed continues to increase, the ISO was obviously raised to maintain the same exposure.
The fact that you have to do some minor detective work to discover this testifies as to how clean the images are at these ISO's!
Thanks. You are now visiting the "Updated with full ISO range series". When I asked this question the highest ISO was 6400. Thank you for your help anyway!
Well... It does take pictures, all right ;)
You are correct....But....The D600 is much cheaper and has entry level build.
I think 'enthusiast level' would be fairer. I can't think of any entry-level camera that has mainly magnesium alloy construction.
I think this camera might re-kindle my love affair with my 50 1.8! I knew I should have shelled out extra for the 70-300 over the 55-300, but I guess the DX mode will have to do for a while :) The D600 is the perfect option for FX upgrade from DX, IMO - You can upgrade your glass piece by piece, and still enjoy the better dynamic range, low light performance, auto focus (over my D90) and video performance. I will probably wait a few months for the price to stabilise, but D600 here I come!
I guess I need to see a doctor about my testosterone levels, because apparently all this FF hoopla is not giving me the boner it is giving everyone else... Just be happy we live in such times to have so many GOOD options by so many major brands.
Yup, we're living in the best photography times! And don't forget about the 2nd hand market - just wait for a couple of months until the geeks have had enough play with their new toys, and then get a broken-in camera for a fraction of the price. As for your hormone levels, why don't you try a new sexy prime lens? I guess it will do wonders :-)
These are much more interesting pictures than the ones you take in Seattle. You should consider relocating.
They are all good but nothing exceptional other than the extra resolution maybe. Except the high ISO ones, my Nikon D40, Fujifilm S5 and other cameras can also take the same images.
I'd like to see your D40 take that same ISO 1600 image (I do not consider that high ISO these days). If it looks as good, I'll buy it off of you as I'll be able to save a lot of money.
Also keep in mind these are JPEGS, which are always considerably worse than 14bit RAW output.
Hah, somebody is offended again. Learn to read and think !!!!
I said "except the high ISO" ones. Well, that is how it is. I am not working at a magazine where high crop is required. And I would never sell my Nikon D40 to you.
Nobody's offended, simply pointing out ISO 1600 or even 3200 isn't high when cameras can do 204,800 these days (though it isn't exactly pretty!). D4 or downsampled D800 images can handle ISO 12,800-25,600 quite easily for most applications.
I'd imagine the D600 beats the D40 handily even at ISO 200 or 400...
My apologies if I offended in any way, but the D40 is simply not comparable to the D600.
"Nikon D40, Fujifilm S5 and other cameras can also take the same images."
And then you woke up.
To Reilly -> Maybe you are the whose eyes are squinted by the shiny but empty fancy marketing gimmics. I will still keep on to disturb you by repeating the phrase: Nikon D40, Fujifilm S5 and other cameras can also take the same images.
"Nikon D40, Fujifilm S5 and other cameras can also take the same images."
Rock Kenwell? Is that you?
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Liddacoat's (vs Menu Tree)
Original post made by Andrew L. Freedman, College Terrace, on Apr 7, 2008
I recall when Liddacoat's had about 20 different food businesses competing for your lunch money. When I was working in downtown Palo Alto, I'd eat lunch there almost every day. As soon as you'd walk in, if you made eye contact with anyone behind the food counter, they would practically start to dish out what they think you had previously ordered from them. Then you'd have to say (lie), "Oh, I'm just looking. I'll be back." Sometimes they'd put on a pitiful look like, they're going to go out of business if you don't get your lunch from them. A little bit of a guilt trip before lunch. I recall the day that Mrs. Fields came to dedicate her cookie shop. I kissed her!
Liddacoat's was a little like Menu Tree at the Sears Shopping Center, except Menu Tree was much, much, more spacious and was geared for lunch and dinner. My dad would take me and my two brothers there for dinner once a week. He'd get us situated on the second floor at a table and then he'd go down to get his dinner. My older brother and I would then shoot straw wrappers off the second floor, occasionally hitting some unsuspecting patron, until my dad came up to join us.
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a resident of Woodside
on Apr 7, 2008 at 3:05 pm
I believe the spelling was Liddicoats. I remember it well from when I had an office in PA.
We used to refer to it as the Vomitorium
A couple of my staff got food poisoning there, it would not pass health code these days.
a resident of another community
on Apr 7, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Ah, yes, Liddicoats. I still miss the place. Some of the food there was great. Sako's and the middleastern booth at the entrance were my favorites. When I worked downtown it was a favorite lunch spot when we went out as a group. We could split up, grab our favorite food, and regroup to eat. No need to pick a cousine that suited everyone's tastebuds. The cockroaches and grimy tables were something we tried not to think about.
a resident of Fairmeadow
on Apr 7, 2008 at 6:50 pm
My recollection of Liddicoat's was that it was a regular grocery store that was converted into a food court, probably in the early 60's. Am I remembering correctly?
a resident of College Terrace
on Apr 8, 2008 at 8:16 am
Hi Mike, William and fan,
All of your recollections are correct. Peter Gauvin wrote a story for the Palo Alto Weekly in 1994.
It was first a meeting hall then a grocery store before it became the lunch place we knew (here's the link).
Web Link
And yes, the story mentioned that it did have some health code violations. Well, I guess that explains why I spent more time in the bathroom then at my desk (just kidding).
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jul 21, 2008 at 6:00 pm
I grew up in Palo Alto in the 50s. Liddicoats was an upscale grocery. We would grocery shop once a week, first at Safeway for the staples then off to Liddicoats for fresh seafood. Everything was fresh, clean and good in those days. No one ever had to concern themselves about tainted food or food poisoning. Sad that we have to seek out quality in American markets these days. Glad I was alive then; we had a great neighborhood on Embarcadero Road and no one ever locked their doors. We made up our own plays in the garage and played games outside, no video games or color tv then. Community Center was one of my fav places. I participated in classes, theater, May day events and more. I also braved swimming lessons at Riconada freezing pool. Many good times then. Also wrote for Palo Alto Times when at Paly High where we plan a 45th reunion gathering this year on Labor Day. Life was most excellent then. Eichlers were around the corner, a big field across the street all the way to Bayshore HIghway. Enjoyed the recent Eichler remod video. Duvenek was Green Gables Elementary, which it will always be for me.
a resident of Professorville
on Mar 8, 2013 at 2:28 pm
Menu Tree! The greatest ever! Spacious, yes, good food, inexpensive and the animated birds were wonderful. Who doesn't remember good times at the Menu Tree? The upper level always seemed to be empty. The balcony seats were great for people watching. Part of growing up in the Bay area, cherished memories.
a resident of Barron Park
on Mar 11, 2013 at 3:30 pm
Hey Joe (Marisol?),
Long time no see - I recal you from Wilbur, but we must have bumped into each other over the years, like maybe at one of Romel's famous parties!!
Yes, the upper level at Menu Tree was perfect for blowing straw rappers off to unsuspecting tables below.
Mark H and I get together once a week for Brew-ha-ha's at the Tide House. Good variety of beer. Are you still living in the area?
Just me - Andy
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Top: President Ricardo Romo greets Miss Fiesta San Antonio
Abigail Garcia. Bottom: Miss Fiesta shows off a Fiesta medal.
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UTSA student Abigail Garcia named Miss Fiesta San Antonio
By Adi Pavlovic
Student Writer, College of Liberal and Fine Arts
(April 25, 2006)--UTSA senior Abigail Garcia last week was named the 57th Miss Fiesta San Antonio, marking the third consecutive year that a UTSA student has received the crown. Fiesta San Antonio events kicked off Friday, April 21 and run through this weekend.
A communication major studying public relations, Garcia will play a major role as Miss Fiesta San Antonio, including appearances in the parades and other events such as the opening of NIOSA (Night in Old San Antonio), the pilgrimage to the Alamo, and a mass at San Fernando cathedral. Additionally, she will visit hospitals, schools and nursing homes in her official role.
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"I feel very blessed to have received this title, and I am proud to represent UTSA and San Antonio," Garcia said. "I have met some beautiful people with hearts of gold, and San Antonio is truly the greatest city in Texas."
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The road to becoming Miss Fiesta San Antonio is a rigorous one. After applying and participating in an interview by the pageant board, the remaining applicants must practice for the pageant every Saturday from November to February.
For two days before the pageant, a panel of selected judges interviews the contestants again. Following the interview, there is an evening gown competition. Finally, each woman puts together a skit portraying an important woman in Texas history.
Garcia selected Mary Nan West for her skit. West was known for breaking boundaries for women and was active in the livestock and rodeo shows. She also established a scholarship program, which now distributes more than $10 million annually.
The oldest of four sisters, Garcia also plans to establish a scholarship foundation that will provide the opportunity for young mothers to continue their education.


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Bass Lake Resort near Yosemite
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I did too John. He certainly was a character, in his white coveralls, red bandana, and a line of young children in tow...even at his age.
Must have been the comb honey he ate.
A gentleman by the name of Gilbert Doolittle has influenced my beekeeping
Steve Tabor
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Julysun elevation 23 feet. 4 Hives, 2 years.
My wife would be number one because without her influence I would have never took up bees.
Michael Bush probably has the greatest influence on how I think about bees.
It would be ludicrous of me to think many people on Beesource have not influenced me and Mark you certainly are one of them. Thanks to all.
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Zone 5a, Practicing non-intervention beekeeping
Many tears ago when I was 11 years old, I helped an old neighbor/beekeeper with his two hives. I guess I would have to say he influenced me.
What we have here, is a failure to communicate !
Michael Bush, was a big influence in getting me started. After reading the various books saying I would have to dump all the chemicals into the beehives I almost didn't start.
Thanks Michael, I'm still enjoying it, & my bees are surviving with nothing stronger than powdered sugar being dumped into the hives.
Michael Palmer, has me addicted to starting nucs. Thanks I think.
I don't think that was the idea behind the question posed by the OPer. Who has influenced you most as a beekeeper? Who has been your best teacher, the one who has meant the most to you? Those sortys of things.
As an aside, would you share one of your original ideas w/ us, please? Thanks.
Mark Berninghausen
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- My grandmother, the first beek I ever knew. Watching her work on her hives (and watching the bees at work) instilled in me a lifelong fascination with bees.
- My neighbor, who gave me the final push I needed to get into it for myself, and who has been a willing mentor.
- An awful lot of you here, who have answered my questions and guided me with patience and wisdom. I believe I literally owe the life of my hive (and my sanity) to the good people of this board.
Don't provoke a hive full of angry bees.
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I was influenced by noone other than myself. i always liked bees and wanted to be around them , but i never had any opportunity to work with them , so last winter i started researching them and studying on how to keep them and in the spring i bought 4 nucs and i love it : )
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Andy Fox Dee and Ed Lusby
My dad Charlie and my uncle Archie from whom I learned hard work.....really hard work and my son Jeff that just has a natural aptitude for bees. Most everything new thing we try is the result of a brainstorming session between us. Sometimes it dosent work but usually it does. Fwiw my time favorite beekeeping person I ever knew was Irwin Glew who managed the Sioux City Dadant branch for many years.


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Racecar Driving Experience
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text: I'm a new beekeeper from Grand Lake New Brunswick. I have two colonies that seemed to over winter without any issues. I over wintered with two deeps (lots of honey left in the top deep), bottom deep is pretty empty. didn't notice any eggs yet but i didn't look at all the frames as the temps have been on the cooler side. just wondering if any locals could tell me what the bees should be up to now and what i should be seeing in there. do i reverse the boxes? heard mixed advice on that. i put a feeder on but they haven't touched it at all. they seem to be strong with lots of bees flying on the warmer days and i see them bringing in pollen. there isn't anything really blooming yet, so maybe i should just let them be for now? any advice would be helpful.


text: My back is not so good, but I love working my 22 beehives. In my search for help with the "back-breaking" I saw the Ezi-loader made in AU. It works great but the cost is $14K new. I was luky enough to find a Kelley boom loader on ebay and bought it sight unseen. Right now I'm in Iraq serving in the Army under Operation Iraqi Freedom and will not be home for a little while. Anyway, can someone tell me exactly how the Kelley loader works? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...839547483&rd=1


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1980's Bruno Magli Purple Suede Handbag Adjustable strap and lined with gold leather. Purple suede shoulder bag with adjustable strap and lined with gold leather. Measures 9.25 inches by 8.5 inche.s
Vintage Coconut Purse with Face For the bag collector who has everything! Small vintage coconut purse with painted face. A coconut panited and transformed into a purse. It is lined with a red meah like fabric and the top fastens with a piece of elastic attaching to button nose. Very good condition.
Unusual shaped brown suede handbag with small push button clasp by prestige. I believe the bag to be from the 1940's or early 1950's. Inside is clean with original mirror. Hinges at bottom of bag. Minor wear to metal part of handbag one tiny area close to metal you can see a nail head through suede. Slight crinkle to suede. Inside is lined with a thin leather. Measures 10 by 7 inches without handle.
1940's Chocolate Brown Beaded Bag I luv the unusual a shape of this 1940's chocolate brown evening purse. Excellent condition. Mirror has been replaced - small area of wear inside by mirror. Measures 8" by 9 inches high (including handle)
1940's Floral Print Cotton Day DressAwesome 1940's cotton floral print dress with Red trim and large red plastic buttons. Excellent condition. Bust 44 inches Waist 40 inches Hips 52 inches Length 46 inches
Vintage 1930's navy blue cotton print. Comes with original belt. Has a very flattering cut and the fabric is a lightweight soft cotton which flatters your form and is oh so comfortable. DRess is unlined. Made to fit loose and fit over head- three snaps at front bodice. . Very good condition. One small nick under arm seam. Shoulders 14 inches Bust 40 inches (Designed for aloose fit) Wiast 34 inches (loose fit) Hips 44 inches Length 42 inches.
Dramatic 1935 velvet drop waist dress with drop sleeves. Measurements: Shoulders 14 inches Bust 40 inches Drop Waist 30 inches. Unlined silk velvet. The dress is in very good condition. There are two places where the seam need to be reinforced and there is some fraying to metallic fabric. Otherwise no smells rips tears or stains. About Fashion Originator's Guild... Starting in In 1932, garment designers banded together to prevent design theft, commonly known as "knock offs", by manufacturers. They formed the Fashion Originators Guild of America after help or protection was not forthcoming from Congress or the courts. A founding member and the first president of the Guild was Maurice Rentner.
Great vintage late 1940's black rayon cocktail dress with nice v pleats which run up from waist out through the bodice. Typical 1940's padded shoulders. The skirt has two layers one full cascading skirt with opening in front revealing a pencil style underskirt. Excellent condition. Zipper is at mid-back off dress (Not from top to center back but mid center of dress) - so if you have wide shoulders getting into this dress will be difficult. So take care in putting dress on. Bust 32 inches Waist 26 inches Hips 36 inches Shoulders 15 inches Length 46 inches.
Wonderful vintage 1940's blue striped dress with velvet collar and cuffs. Buttons up at front, padded shoulders and comes with original belt. Excellent condition - one small nick repair back collar. The fabric is a medium weight rayon cotton blend with stripes and smaller diamond pattern under that. Measurements Bust 40 inches (The sleeves have a batwing shape to them so there might be a bit more room there) Waist 31 inches Hips 42 inches Length 49 inches.
1940's silk lounging pajamas by Barbizon - Lazy Jane. Wide leg trousers which buttoin at the side and oversized double breasted jacket/top. Made of a heavy weight silk satin material. Very good condition - missing belt - slight soiling at collar and under arms. Shoulders 16 inches Arms 22.5 inches Bust 42 inches Top Length 30 inches Pant Waist 30 inches (high waist Top of pant to crotch 18 inches Hips 38 inches Length from top of pant to bottom pant 42.5 inches
1950's Vintage Swank Bi-focal Eye Glasses with Rhinestones. Excellent condition. Marked Swank Frame France 3820 99 44 X 20
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Really pretty art nouveau bracelet. NIce red rhinestone set in gunmetal. Very good condition. There were some loose stones which I have reset.. Bracelet measures 7.5 inches.
Circa 1920's Art Deco Marcasite Bracelet and Pendant. Both in excellent condition. The pendant is marked with an early Uncas Manufacturing Company label. The bracelt is also marked but I am not able to read it. The bracelet has a saftey chain and elaborate catch. Bracelet measures 7.5 inches long. The pendent measures 7/8 by 1 1/8 inches.
Fun oversized vintage yellow 1950's straw handbag with fine weave. Inside is lined with yellow cotton. Made by Mel-Ton. Excellent Condition - clean insides with change purse - slight slight soiling bags bottom corners. Measures 15 by 15 inches including handle.
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Vintage 1940's nesting travel vanity cases by Shortrip.The first cases measures 13 by 6 by 10 inches. Inside it has a mirror and i in very good condition with some minor discoloration of outside case (missing key). Inside this case fits another case which fits in case open and when taken out can be closed into a smaller second case. The smaller case contains various soap, toothbrush, powder and perfume container.
Vintage yellow and white cotton gingham apron or large bib. Reads Watch Out, McDonald's. Very good condition. Measures 17 by 14 inches. Made by Now! Designs.
Vintage 1940's 50's Wilendur cotton tablecloth. Yellow with grey and brown rose print. Very good condition - some fading from use. Measures 54" by 65"
1940's Sailor Tunic cotton shirt. Made by Melray. Bust 36 inches Length 33 inches Hips 38 inches
1940's wide legged trouser pajamas. Medium weight rayon blend fabric by Stonecutter. Shirt buttons up and pants fasten by button also. Pajamas appear to never been worn. Very Good Condition - Slight grey smudge on top. Waist 26" Hips 41" Pant Length 39" Bust 42" Shoulders 16.5" Shirt Length 24"
The tailoring of this vintage 1940's short swing jacket is fantastic. The deep red fabric is a super soft camel hair blend - there are no tags - but from touching it I am most certain it is Camel Hair. The inside is lined with a medium weight silk satin. The shoulders are padded an there are buttons on either side of jacket. Jacket is in very good condition - one small pinhole repair - ever so slight discoloration back inside collar. Bust 48 inches Shoulders 16 inches Length 30 inches Arms 24 inches
Vintage 1940's pink plaid cotton day dress. Styled by Loralyn. Excellent condition - with original belt. Bust 40 inches Waist 32 inches Length 46 inches
1950's Silk Blouse with Sailor Front
Vintage unmarked mesh 1940's Victorian Revival choker necklace. Attaches at back with hook and chain. Very good condition.


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