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Computing may be the fourth great domain of science along with the physical, life and social sciences
Peter J. Denning
Computing is integral to science—not just as a tool for analyzing data, but as an agent of thought and discovery.
It has not always been this way. Computing is a relatively young discipline. It started as an academic field of study in the 1930s with a cluster of remarkable papers by Kurt Gödel, Alonzo Church, Emil Post and Alan Turing. The papers laid the mathematical foundations that would answer the question "what is computation?" and discussed schemes for its implementation. These men saw the importance of automatic computation and sought its precise mathematical foundation. The various schemes they each proposed for implementing computation were quickly found to be equivalent, as a computation in any one could be realized in any other. It is all the more remarkable that their models all led to the same conclusion that certain functions of practical interest—such as whether a computational algorithm (a method of evaluating a function) will ever come to completion instead of being stuck in an infinite loop—cannot be answered computationally.
At the time that these papers were written, the terms "computation" and "computers" were already in common use, but with different connotations from today. Computation was taken to mean the mechanical steps followed to evaluate mathematical functions; computers were people who did computations. In recognition of the social changes they were ushering in, the designers of the first digital computer projects all named their systems with acronyms ending in "-AC", meaning automatic computer—resulting in names such as ENIAC, UNIVAC and EDSAC.
At the start of World War II, the militaries of the United States and the United Kingdom became interested in applying computation to the calculation of ballistic and navigation tables and to the cracking of ciphers. They commissioned projects to design and build electronic digital computers. Only one of the projects was completed before the war was over. That was the top-secret project at Bletchley Park in England, which cracked the German Enigma cipher using methods designed by Alan Turing.
Many people involved in those projects went on to start computer companies in the early 1950s. Universities began offering programs of study in the new field in the late 1950s. The field and the industry have grown steadily into a modern behemoth whose Internet data centers are said to consume almost three percent of the world's electricity.
During its youth, computing was an enigma to the established fields of science and engineering. At first, computing looked like only the applied technology of math, electrical engineering or science, depending on the observer. However, over the years, computing provided a seemingly unending stream of new insights, and it defied many early predictions by resisting absorption back into the fields of its roots. By 1980 computing had mastered algorithms, data structures, numerical methods, programming languages, operating systems, networks, databases, graphics, artificial intelligence and software engineering. Its great technological achievements—the chip, the personal computer and the Internet—brought it into many lives. These advances stimulated more new subfields, including network science, Web science, mobile computing, enterprise computing, cooperative work, cyberspace protection, user-interface design and information visualization. The resulting commercial applications have spawned new research challenges in social networks, endlessly evolving computation, music, video, digital photography, vision, massive multiplayer online games, user-generated content and much more.
The name of the field has changed several times to keep up with the flux. In the 1940s it was called automatic computation and in the 1950s, information processing. In the 1960s, as it moved into academia, it acquired the name computer science in the U.S. and informatics in Europe. By the 1980s computing comprised a complex of related fields, including computer science, informatics, computational science, computer engineering, software engineering, information systems and information technology. By 1990 the term computing had become the standard for referring to this core group of disciplines.
Traditional scientists frequently questioned the name computer science. They could easily see an engineering paradigm (design and implementation of systems) and a mathematics paradigm (proofs of theorems) but they could not see much of a science paradigm (experimental verification of hypotheses). Moreover, they understood science as a way of dealing with the natural world, and computers looked suspiciously artificial.
The founders of the field came from all three paradigms. Some thought computing was a branch of applied mathematics, some a branch of electrical engineering, and some a branch of computational-oriented science. During its first four decades, the field focused primarily on engineering: The challenges of building reliable computers, networks and complex software were daunting and occupied almost everyone's attention. By the 1980s these challenges largely had been met and computing was spreading rapidly into all fields, with the help of networks, supercomputers and personal computers. During the 1980s computers became powerful enough that science visionaries could see how to use them to tackle the hardest questions—the "grand challenge" problems in science and engineering. The resulting "computational science" movement involved scientists from all countries and culminated in the U.S. Congress's adoption of the High-Performance Computing and Communications (HPCC) Act of 1991 to support research on a host of large problems.
Today, there is an agreement that computing exemplifies science and engineering, and that neither science nor engineering characterizes computing. Then what does? What is computing's paradigm?
The leaders of the field struggled with this paradigm question from the beginning. Along the way, there were three waves of attempts to unify views. Allen Newell, Alan Perlis and Herb Simon led the first one in 1967. They argued that computing was unique among all the sciences in its study of information processes. Simon, a Nobel laureate in economics, went so far as to call computing a science of the artificial. A catchphrase of this wave was "computing is the study of phenomena surrounding computers."
The second wave focused on programming, the art of designing algorithms that produce information processes. In the early 1970s, computing pioneers Edsger Dijkstra and Donald Knuth took strong stands favoring algorithm analysis as the unifying theme. A catchphrase of this wave was "computer science equals programming." In recent times, this view has foundered because the field has expanded well beyond programming, whereas the public understanding of a programmer has narrowed to just those who write code.
The third wave came as a result of the Computer Science and Engineering Research Study (COSERS), led by Bruce Arden in the late 1970s. Its catchphrase was "computing is the automation of information processes." Although its final report successfully exposed the science in computing and explained many esoteric aspects to the layperson, its central view did not catch on.
An important aspect of all three definitions was the positioning of the computer as the object of attention. The computational-science movement of the 1980s began to step away from that notion, adopting the view that computing is not only a tool for science, but also a new method of thought and discovery in science. The process of dissociating from the computer as the focal point came to completion in the late 1990s when leaders in the field of biology—epitomized by Nobel laureate David Baltimore and echoing cognitive scientist Douglas Hofstadter—said that biology had become an information science and DNA translation is a natural information process. Many computer scientists have joined biologists in research to understand the nature of DNA information processes and to discover what algorithms might govern them.
Take a moment to savor this distinction that biology makes. First, some information processes are natural. Second, we do not know whether all natural information processes are produced by algorithms. The second statement challenges the traditional view that algorithms (and programming) are at the heart of computing. Information processes may be more fundamental than algorithms.
Scientists in other fields have come to similar conclusions. They include physicists working with quantum computation and quantum cryptography, chemists working with materials, economists working with economic systems, and social scientists working with networks. They have all said that they have discovered information processes in their disciplines' deep structures. Stephen Wolfram, a physicist and creator of the software program Mathematica, went further, arguing that information processes underlie every natural process in the universe.
All this leads us to the modern catchphrase: "Computing is the study of information processes, natural and artificial." The computer is a tool in these studies but is not the object of study. As Dijkstra once said, "Computing is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes."
The term computational thinking has become popular to refer to the mode of thought that accompanies design and discovery done with computation. This term was originally called algorithmic thinking in the 1960s by Newell, Perlis and Simon, and was widely used in the 1980s as part of the rationale for computational science. To think computationally is to interpret a problem as an information process and then seek to discover an algorithmic solution. It is a very powerful paradigm that has led to several Nobel Prizes.
The maturing of our interpretation of computing has given us a new view of the content of the field. Until the 1990s, most computing scientists would have said that it is about algorithms, data structures, numerical methods, programming languages, operating systems, networks, databases, graphics, artificial intelligence and software engineering. This definition is a technological interpretation of the field. A scientific interpretation would emphasize the fundamental principles that empower and constrain the technologies.
My colleagues and I have developed the Great Principles of Computing framework to accomplish this goal. These principles fall into seven categories: computation, communication, coordination, recollection, automation, evaluation and design (see the table at right for examples).
Each category is a perspective on computing, a window into the knowledge space of computing. The categories are not mutually exclusive. For example, the Internet can be seen as a communication system, a coordination system or a storage system. We have found that most computing technologies use principles from all seven categories. Each category has its own weight in the mixture, but they are all there.
In addition to the principles, which are relatively static, we need to take account of the dynamics of interactions between computing and other fields. Scientific phenomena can affect one another in two ways: implementation and influence. A combination of existing things implements a phenomenon by generating its behaviors. Thus, digital hardware physically implements computation; artificial intelligence implements aspects of human thought; a compiler implements a high-level language with machine code; hydrogen and oxygen implement water; complex combinations of amino acids implement life.
Influence occurs when two phenomena interact with each other. Atoms arise from the interactions among the forces generated by protons, neutrons and electrons. Galaxies interact via gravitational waves. Humans interact with speech, touch and computers. And interactions exist across domains as well as within domains. For example, computation influences physical action (electronic controls), life processes (DNA translation) and social processes (games with outputs). The second table illustrates interactions between computing and each of the physical, life and social sciences, as well as within computing itself. There can be no question about the pervasiveness of computing in all fields of science.
There is a potential difficulty with defining computation in terms of information. Information seems to have no settled definition. Claude Shannon, the father of information theory, in 1948 defined information as the expected number of yes-or-no questions one must ask to decide what message was sent by a source. He purposely skirted the issue of the meaning of bit patterns, which seems to be important to defining information. In sifting through many published definitions, Paolo Rocchi in 2010 concluded that definitions of information necessarily involve an objective component—signs and their referents, or in other words, symbols and what they stand for—and a subjective component—meanings. How can we base a scientific definition of information on something with such an essential subjective component?
Biologists have a similar problem with "life." Life scientist Robert Hazen notes that biologists have no precise definition of life, but they do have a list of seven criteria for when an entity is living. The observable affects of life, such as chemistry, energy and reproduction, are sufficient to ground the science of biology. In the same way, we can ground a science of information on the observable affects (signs and referents) without having a precise definition of meaning.
A representation is a pattern of symbols that stands for something. The association between a representation and what it stands for can be recorded as a link in a table or database, or as a memory in people's brains. There are two important aspects of representations: syntax and stuff. Syntax is the rules for constructing patterns; it allows us to distinguish patterns that stand for something from patterns that do not. Stuff is the measurable physical states of the world that hold representations, usually in media or signals. Put these two together and we can build machines that can detect when a valid pattern is present.
A representation that stands for a method of evaluating a function is called an algorithm. A representation that stands for values is called data. When implemented by a machine, an algorithm controls the transformation of an input data representation to an output data representation. The algorithm representation controls the transformation of data representations. The distinction between the algorithm and the data representations is pretty weak; the executable code generated by a compiler looks like data to the compiler and like an algorithm to the person running the code.
Even this simple notion of representation has deep consequences. For example, as Gregory Chaitin has shown, there is no algorithm for finding the shortest possible representation of something.
Some scientists leave open the question of whether an observed information process is actually controlled by an algorithm. DNA translation can thus be called an information process; if someone discovers a controlling algorithm, it could be also called a computation.
Some mathematicians define computation as separate from implementation. They treat computations as logical orderings of strings in abstract languages, and are able to determine the logical limits of computation. However, to answer questions about the running time of observable computations, they have to introduce costs—the time or energy of storing, retrieving or converting representations. Many real-world problems require exponential-time computations as a consequence of these implementable representations. My colleagues and I still prefer to deal with implementable representations because they are the basis of a scientific approach to computation.
These notions of representations are sufficient to give us the definitions we need for computing. An information process is a sequence of representations. (In the physical world, it is a continuously evolving, changing representation.) A computation is an information process in which the transitions from one element of the sequence to the next are controlled by a representation. (In the physical world, we would say that each infinitesimal time and space step is controlled by a representation.)
Computing as a field has come to exemplify good science as well as engineering. The science is essential to the advancement of the field because many systems are so complex that experimental methods are the only way to make discoveries and understand limits. Computing is now seen as a broad field that studies information processes, natural and artificial.
This definition is wide enough to accommodate three issues that have nagged computing scientists for many years: Continuous information processes (such as signals in communication systems or analog computers), interactive processes (such as ongoing Web services) and natural processes (such as DNA translation) all seemed like computation but did not fit the traditional algorithmic definitions.
The great-principles framework reveals a rich set of rules on which all computation is based. These principles interact with the domains of the physical, life and social sciences, as well as with computing technology itself.
Computing is not a subset of other sciences. None of those domains are fundamentally concerned with the nature of information processes and their transformations. Yet this knowledge is now essential in all the other domains of science. Computer scientist Paul Rosenbloom of the University of Southern California in 2009 argued that computing is a new great domain of science. He is on to something.
You can find this online at http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/num2/the-great-principles-of-computing/3
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Carpenter, Elizabeth. "On Kawara." In Bits & Pieces Put Together to Present a Semblance of a Whole: Walker Art Center Collections, edited by Joan Rothfuss and Elizabeth Carpenter. Minneapolis, MN: Walker Art Center, 2005.
© 2005 Walker Art Center
For On Kawara, life, work, and the inevitable passage of time are inextricably bound. Kawara has described himself as a "tourist"1 but might more accurately be considered an expatriated cosmopolitan who feels at home in the world, wherever he happens to be, without a preference for a particular culture or language. He left his native Japan in 1959, traveling to Mexico (where he lived for four years), then on to New York, Paris, and Toledo, Spain, with a side trip north to see the Altamira cave paintings, to which he had a profound response. Upon his return to New York via Paris in 1964, Kawara's exposure to the current art-world trends of Pop and Conceptualism led him to break with his previous figural style in favor of an increasingly idea-based practice.
On January 4, 1966, Kawara covered a small canvas with a deep blue acrylic and hand-painted the date in white across its midsection. This work inaugurated his Today series (also commonly referred to as "date paintings"), a cycle of works with a formally austere and strict conceptual regimen that has continued for almost forty years. Each is created on the date indicated and in the language of the country in which it was completed. They come in a variety of sizes and a limited palette of colors (black, gray, blue, red), and take eight to nine hours—a full day's work—to complete. On some days, he paints more than one; other days he doesn't paint at all. If he doesn't finish by the end of the day, the painting is destroyed. Upon completion, each is placed in a handmade cardboard box lined with a page from that day's newspaper.2 After completing a work, Kawara records (in the language of the country he was in on the first day of the year) the pertinent details (date, size, color samples) in a loose-leaf journal that also includes a monthly calendar marking off the days on which he works.3
Kawara considers the disciplined and repetitive nature of his artistic activity as "brainwork" comparable to "meditation."4 This mindfulness is captured in perpetuity in the date paintings: what is documented is a day in a life.5 However, the calendar marks time for the artist and viewer alike—his paintings bring about an awareness of our own moments, both squandered and well spent. With the addition of the newspaper fragments, the consequences associated with the descent of sand through the hourglass of a single life are interwoven within the larger fabric of human endeavor, ultimately providing a social and political subtext for the work. By using language to focus attention on temporality and geography, Kawara successfully maps layovers along the itinerary of life, and in so doing, captures both time and space.
Jonathan Watkins, "Survey: Where 'I Don't Know' Is the Right Answer," in On Kawara (London: Phaidon Press, 2002), 54. ↩
The date paintings in the Walker's collection were created January 16 to 20, 1989, in Stuttgart, Germany. Each box has a newspaper clipping attached to the bottom. Those dated January 16 to 19 have pages from the Stuttgarter Zeitung, while January 20 has a page from the Stuttgarter Nachrichten. The headlines range in content from a train accident in Bangladesh (January 16) to a student demonstration (January 19) to the disarmament of nuclear weapons in the Soviet Union (January 20). Although an integral part of the work, the boxes are seldom exhibited alongside the paintings, per the artist's wishes. ↩
The artist also included subtitles for each of his paintings in his journals. Occasionally they were composed of personal notes such as "I didn't sleep well last night," but more often they were determined by a headline selected from the enclosed newspaper clipping. He abandoned this practice on December 28, 1972, in Stockholm; his last one read, "I don't know." Thereafter, the subtitles were simply notations of the day of the week. See Watkins, "Where 'I Don't Know' Is the Right Answer," 42. ↩
Kawara quoted in Lucy Lippard, "Just in Time: On Kawara," in On Kawara and Lucy R. Lippard, eds., On Kawara Today 1967, exh. cat. (Los Angeles: Otis Art Institute Gallery, 1977), unpaginated. ↩
Not interested in the celebrity that sometimes accompanies art-world success, Kawara does not engage in interviews, nor does he allow his photograph to be published. This conspicuous absence makes his "presence" in the work even more poignant. ↩
Carpenter, Elizabeth. "On Kawara." In Bits & Pieces Put Together to Present a Semblance of a Whole: Walker Art Center Collections, edited by Joan Rothfuss and Elizabeth Carpenter. Minneapolis, MN: Walker Art Center, 2005.
© 2005 Walker Art Center

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As my hobby expands, I'm curious if there are any other treatment-free folks nearby? I'm in the Lakeland area. I'd like to get in touch with someone raising nucs or queens in this region. (Polk County area)
As my hobby expands, I'm curious if there are any other treatment-free folks nearby? I'm in the Lakeland area. I'd like to get in touch with someone raising nucs or queens in this region. (Polk County area)
There are plenty of people raising bees in florida...both queens and nucs. However to be treatment free in Florida is almost impossiable. There are thousands of bees brought in from up north for the winter and orange flows and with those numbers of bees unless you are in a isolated area(and if you are it must not be a good bee area)you will have a hard time staying treatment free. Also Florida's climate is perfect for mite reproduction and beetles. good luck you will need alot to remain treatment free and not have dead bee hives.
Suttonbeeman I am in an isolated area according to the state less than one hive per two square miles. Does this mean I have the potential to be treatment free. There are no hives within at least six miles of me in any direction. I am trying to be treatment free but have my doubts. SHB arent a problem but varroa are another thing. We have few if any ferals due to aerial spraying for West Nile and Equine Encephalitus. There is few if any commercial beekeepers in the area because of the pinestraw trade which has led to poisoning of every type vegetation except pine trees. Luckily I live in a three square mile area of privatly held timberland that doesnt employ these tactics. I am at the break point of whether to treat or not as I have some very high mite counts. But temps have been too hight to do anything about it. If I treat it will be with formic acid and nothing that can negatively impact my comb. I dont want to have to rotate out comb as often as is recommended since I am just starting and comb is at a premium.
What sort of things are you doing already? Small cell, clean wax, natural cell, unlimited broodnest, etc.?
I dont treat and havent in 8 years, my first two hives died in the first year, I bought from a beekeeper that treated, then I found B weaver queens, havent looked back, I keep them in full sun, solid bottom board, I dont check for mite load, I dont care, its up to the bees to take care of thier house, they will do it well or the queen will get replaced or pinched off if I dont have a replacement.
But if you think you are going to loose your hive and you dont want to, you need to do whatever you can to keep it, if you remove the queen, you remove the feed source for the mites, or requeen with a Miska queen he is not too far from you
Right now all I have is clean comb. My bees are on plasticell that was uncoated or some that I coated with my own cappings after pulling some honey. I want to got to small cell and all mediums over the next year or so. I havent treated yet but am worried about my mite loads. I guess I will keep doing powdered sugar for now as I have seen no DWV.
B Reeves,
I'm in Bradley, FL. About 20 min. from you. Are you interested in selling a nuc or two? I'd like to check out your operation if you have the time. I'm pretty new at this, so I'm trying to get untreated stock to add to my hives and see how other treatment-free folks are doing it.
We do not treat at USF BG. Stop by some time for the Bee Workshops, third Saturday of every month. We have 40 teaching hives.
Thanks, I'll do that.
resurrecting this thread....any of you guys still around?
Not answering for the others, but Carpenter Apiaries is an hour or so South of you at Frostproof.
NW Alabama, 47 years, 22 colonies and growing, sideliner, treatment free since 2005, 14 frame square Dadant broodnest
thank you, I exchanged emails with Mr Carpenter last month, and have his website saved in my favorites.
I don't have queens or nucs, but am treatment free -- just coming up on my first year anniversary, running top bar hives. There are treatment free beeks in FL, but you find them by word of mouth. The reaction here in my neck of the woods (north central Florida) to treatment free is positive among beeks but not so much among extension agents. I was told during my first inspection that I'd better at least start powdered sugar or expect my bees to die. Period. Fortunately, the bees weren't listening, though I am coming to understand the need for SHB traps as the new split is really struggling with them.
1 TBH, started 4/09/14; 2 more added 9/15
Glad I stumbled upon this thread. My names Adam and I'm treatment free. Haha seriously though, why is it that its looked so badly on? You mention anything and if your asked if you treat and you say no all of the sudden that's the problem without question. Anyway just wanted to tag along. Almost had my bees for a year, come June it will be a year. Started with 1 5frame nuc and am up to 5 production hives and 4 nucs. Hopefully this palmetto flow starts soon been staring at these flower pods for months! Open already!
I wonder who will respond next?
Don't mix foreign bees into a virgin hive. She might get balled 100% of the time! When will you ever learn, huh?


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E.M. Zanotti: So rest in peace, Judge Bork. And thanks for everything.
posted at 2:01 pm on December 19, 2012 by Mary Katharine Ham
Our friend E.M. knew Judge Bork well, as a law professor, an entertaining storyteller, and an all-around impressive man. Read the whole thing for a glimpse beyond the legal life of Bork:
One thing about Robert Bork, though, was how much he loved his place at the crossroads of history. I might have dozed off once or twice during his lectures on the bastardization of the the concept of privacy as it was wrongly enshrined in the Constitution's penumbras and emanations (so, at least I paid a little attention), but never during his incredibly witty and detailed accounts of things like the Saturday Night Massacre, which he retold to myself and a few others after we sneaked a bottle of wine from another law school party to his office. Bork had been an unwilling participant – called to fire Archibald Cox as Solicitor General and acting head of the Justice Department in the middle of the night after the heads of the first two Attorneys General had rolled – and he talked about the anguish he felt as he discussed what he'd been called by the President to do with his then wife, Claire. He told the story to each successive class, I understand, on their final day of Moral Foundations of the Law, probably as a reward for listening politely to the thoughts of a real genius, and for having our inflated egos brushed aide by a man who really knew what he was talking about.
So rest in peace, Judge Bork. And thanks for everything.


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Positive comments about Palo Alto here please
Original post made by Resident, Another Palo Alto neighborhood, on Dec 31, 2012
Let's try at the turn of the New Year to comment on some of the things we really like about our town, the people, the town itself, and the culture.
I will start and say that I love Foothills Park, The Baylands, the tree lined streets and some of the wonderful people I have met and call friends from the activities I have been involved with over the years I have lived here.
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a resident of College Terrace
on Dec 31, 2012 at 1:16 pm
I like the fact that palo alto is located in an area near to excellent shopping areas in mountain view and menlo park. I also like the idea that once zero waste is completely implemented, flush toilets will be banned in the city. I also love that we drove sun, HP and Facebook from the city.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 31, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Of course there has to be at least one who doesn't want to find anything positive about town, but I will ignore the previous poster.
I also love Midtown. I love the way it has evolved from an almost ghost town over the past decade and turned into a vibrant business district with eateries and unusual as well as useful stores. There are times when it is almost as difficult to park as in downtown or Cal Ave which shows its popularity. I doubt very much it is used by many who do not work or live within a 3 or 4 mile radius, but the fact that people use it shows that people do like to stay closer to home or work if possible.
a resident of College Terrace
on Dec 31, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Resident--- being close to good shopping is not a positive (you within a short driving distance, but do not have all the traffic on your doorstep)??
Being THE environmental leader and showing everyone how to do it the right way is not a positive?
Not having big companies in our town that generate traffic is not a positive?
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Dec 31, 2012 at 11:31 pm
The positive Things..We are the heart of Silicone Valley with the leaders of Hewlett-Packard, Apple, Facebook living here These folks brought many inovative features to the electronic industry. We had Loreal Space Systems , Philco-Ford(gone), AOL here. The first intregated circuit was developed here. Many of the folks that work in these companys live here.
We have the best schools K-12 here that consistently have the top academic scores in the country. Many young parents want to live here for the schools.
We have the best hospital care here in the Stanford Hospital along with the Lucile Packard's Children's Hospital that have kids from around the world come here for treatment. We also the World renown Palo Alto Medical Clinic for sports medicine.
We have one of the best fire departments in the State (I have talked to some of the evaluaters from other juristrictions)and the best EMTs and Paramedics. We also have some of the best police officers that have more that BAs in their field and are consistantly training.
We do have the charm of a very old city in downtown and also California ave. There have been changes and there will always be changes. No statis quo here. We also have some of the best eating establishments here and compitition is high.
And we have our own airport and golf course. Oh, did I mention that we have Stanford University here and the Rodeo Drive of the North in the Stanford Shopping Center?
Be proud that you live in Palo Alto and brag about it.
a resident of Greater Miranda
on Jan 1, 2013 at 8:28 am
I dont think this person understands that to just wax lyrical about how nice it is will do nothing to keep it nice!
We need a place to organize for change, or if you prefer, for maintenance of this nice city of ours.
How absurd to say that we can only say positive things. That is the way to an oppressive group - think.
a resident of College Terrace
on Jan 1, 2013 at 8:39 am
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a resident of Stanford
on Jan 1, 2013 at 9:29 am
Palo Alto doesn't "have" Stanford University.
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jan 1, 2013 at 9:56 am
Things to love about Palo Alto
Community spirit
Beautiful trees and parks
Wonderful schools with committed parents
The May Fete Parade
Stanford University events
Stanford and Packard Hospitals
A diverse population
The landscaping at the Stanford Shopping Mall
Foothill Park
The Dish
Happy New Year!
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jan 1, 2013 at 9:56 am
And being the center of the high tech universe!
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jan 1, 2013 at 10:08 am
Ron....We do NOT have the best schools anymore. Lowly Fremont has some that score in the 990s!
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 1, 2013 at 4:24 pm
Another Palo Alto landmark which I think we should value is the Little League Ballpark. I know other towns have them, but ours is really quite a haven. My boys are no longer Little League age, but I have fond memories of sitting in the bleachers either trying to find shade or keep warm, chatting with other parents, and eating one of the great burgers cooked at the shack. The atmosphere has always been safe, family friendly and quite iconic.
a resident of another community
on Jan 1, 2013 at 7:42 pm
The thing I like most about Palo Alto is that I no longer live or work there ;)
a resident of Professorville
on Jan 2, 2013 at 9:46 pm
Palo Alto may have a very high cost of living and run at a faster pace than i find ideal, but the positives are so numerous. I have made many friends who are genuinely down to earth, carve out precious time to volunteer in many different capacities beyond their kids' schools, and bring balance to their childrens lives. Many Palo Altans I know are very positive, giving, and supportive. in addition, this community is much more open minded than some picture perfect places i have lived in the midwest and northwest. There is no one perfect place, but as residents we do a real service to ourselves and others to apprciate all that we have and bring about change in a positve constructive manner.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jan 2, 2013 at 11:55 pm
I can say lots of good stuff about Palo Alto ... mostly the Palo Alto of the past. Over the years I have been here the same thing has happened to Palo Alto that has happened to Washington ... not the city, the government ... it has been taken over by the elite with what they think is a real entitlement idea. Look at the incompetent decisions made in Washington and compare it with the way Palo Alto has been managed ... similar stuff.
Stupid ideas like developing without demanding enough infrastructure or parking places for cars and then ignoring complaints about traffic is just making snail's pace the norm.
But ... what this reminds me of most are how a lot of websites these days only have a LIKE button. This should be illegal, it should be a violation of public trust, and it is certainly nothing useful, except to brainwash people as they grow up into this vapid go-along, always positive, smiling yes habit. Barbara Ehrenreich's books talk about this and how she found people were sorted into jobs by whether or not they had a smiling fake personality - not whether they were competent or even team players ... just whether they could play the part of a robot or not.
If some enterprising politician actually wanted to write some useful legislation that might actually extend democracy or representation of citizens a little bit in this country ... they should write a law that any chat board that tracks such things should have a yes and a no, a like and a dislike button, and the viewers should also be told out of how many people who viewed whatever.
If you are told that 100 people liked a certain thing ... what is that supposed to mean if are told only that?
NO, every website that wants to track likes, should also track dislikes and views as much and as fairly as possible in my opinion. To do anything else is unjust and pointless.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 3, 2013 at 9:03 am
As the person who started this thread, I think we have plenty of threads to put our dislike comments. This thread was to find some things we like. We don't all have to agree with everything, but there has to be a positive to counteract all the negative that is written here.
I am not suggesting for a minute that the whole of this Town Square forum be positive only, I enjoy a good rant like everybody else. I have also learned a lot from some of the thoughtful, helpful posts. But, I do think it is much easier to complain than it is to give credit. I just felt that one thread with positive vibes should balance the tone of the discussion board.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jan 4, 2013 at 1:08 am
Resident ... I am one to really give credit strongly when I see a good thing. I jumped out there to mention the cool new LED streetlights a while back, better light, cheaper cost - someone is doing a good job.
But the positive improvements are few. There is a lot to like about Palo Alto ... still ... but I guess my feeling is that things are trending downward, so to force oneself to say positive things give us a false sense of happiness.
It's not that it is easier to complain, it is that there may be an actual upside to complaining if people agree and do something, whereas just saying doesn't Palo Alto have nice parks is not really the point.
When I was a kid I used to go up to Foothills Park a lot. What a great place. I go there now and much of the stuff is falling apart.
The Interpretive Center that cool building on stilts is closed down now, and has bird poop all over it. The fun to hike on boardwalks are also all closed down or falling apart. Boards are loose and it is a real hazard.
Most of our nice city parks, like Rinconada are not as well maintained as they used to be.
I am sure that when the new Library opens it will be something to crow about ... I hope, but I see not enough good stuff or good trends, and I don't mean to be negative, I just have to call it like I see it.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 4, 2013 at 8:55 am
I agree with you about the interpretive center at Foothill and also the one in the Baylands.
Why, I wonder, at the Baylands have they just redone the old Scout building and opened it as something new and special and let the old building with the boardwalk close and deteriorate? It makes me think that in another 25 years or so someone will decide that it should be renovated and they will have charity collections as well as calling it historical to keep it as part of Palo Alto heritage. I expect then that it will cause more dissent from future residents, some of whom will want to keep it for nostalgic reasons and others who will want to get rid of it because of progress. It is a shame that something can't be done with it now.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 4, 2013 at 12:43 pm
There is a large enough budget in this city that the Baylands interpretive center should be maintained. The PA Baylands are an attractive asset with visitors from PA and also far away, and I wish that building and the boardwalk out to the bay were in decent shape.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jan 4, 2013 at 7:44 pm
I think if people started really using the Bay Lands they would very quickly realize how much noise the airport contributes making it unpleaseant so as to demand it be closed it down - and fast.
So logically what the airport really does is to prevent the city from using what should be one of our prime resources ... SF bay waterfront property.
The negatives of the airport when you take this into account are large, and the potential of the Bay Lands in terms of development and parkland are great ... why can't we get the city, and county, if necessary to look at this objectively? I think it's clear that it is because the bigshots with a lot of money want to push everyone else around so they can fly their planes over everyone's head ... which is bad enough, but they do it irresponsibly too, which is unacceptable.
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I tried searching past posts and didn't have a lot of luck. Have any of you used cypress hives for a number of years without painting or staining them? I know cypress is more expensive, but if it keeps me from having to paint, it is worth it to me.
I tried searching past posts and didn't have a lot of luck. Have any of you used cypress hives for a number of years without painting or staining them? I know cypress is more expensive, but if it keeps me from having to paint, it is worth it to me.
Our cypress hives were first put out this spring (7 months ago) I brushed on a light coat of wood preserivative - they looked great all summer but now are dull. They may not rot but I don't like the looks.
Looks honestly don't matter to me, as long as I don't have to paint and they don't rot.
Cypress is far more rot resistant than white pine....that is to say heartwood cypress. Sapwood of any species has no inherent rot resistance. Since almost no one grades for heartwood anymore, you are likely to see 20%+ sapwood in any lumber you buy. So unless you can pick the boards/see the hive bodies before purchase to insure they are sap free I would not pay the extra for cypress...What good is a hive body where one edge rots out 10+ years before the rest?
Once upon a time most durable species of lumber were graded for heartwood, the trees were bigger and customers more demanding
All that said, unpainted wood of many species will last reasonably well (in many environments) if it has good air circulation and is well off the ground.
I have spoken with the owners of Rossman Apiaries,, which sells Cypress woodware,, and he says that you dont have to paint it,, but you will get a LOT more years service if you do!
Your money,, you choose,,paint and make it last,, or not,,
just paint it well,, that means all horizontal surfaces where water can collect,, and all exterior surfaces,,
Wood does more than rot. It swells, warps and spilts when it absorbs moisture. Anything to seal out moisture will keep supers together longer. Wood also breaks down in sunlight, just not as rapidly as it swells.
The dark hive was the first one I started with, it is stained with three coats of clear poly on top of that. I did not like the dark finish so I have since started to just use clear poly as you can see the other hive in the distance. Oh I almost forgot to add that, that is my 8yr son servicing the freeman beetle trap. I have since acquired three more hives and they are also clear poly. I also get my equipment from rossman.
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Another hive picture. I like the natural look but it is a lot more work and if I had to finish alot of hives it would just use white paint, because it takes three coats to really look good I think. Just my 2 cents.
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This is a cypress hive that has a coat of sain and three coats of polly, very time consuming. Evans makes cedar bee hives, you might have more luck with them. But anyone is going to tell you no matter what you use, if you put a coat of something on it, it will last longer.
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how much does it cost to setup for wax dipping of boxes?
I've read about wax dipping and believe it would work well, i just don't have the set up or the wax to do it with
Just paint the boxes. Use a good primer first. They can still rot over time painted or not. The question is how long do you intend to use them? Have ya ever noticed 200 year old houses are painted??
Im really not that serious
Depending on how you set up a wax dipping operation I'd estimate 1-2k to set up. I made a rather large tank, 3stacked deeps will fit at once, or 5 mediums. The welded steel take was about 200 for materials (I got it welded for free), I bought a 250k BTU burner to heat it plus a couple extra propane tanks !150 nucks). Then I spent like 800 on wax and rosin to fill it. Add in some miscellaneous items like fire bricks for base and I probably spent around $1300. Smaller tank costs less to build and less to fill.
So one word of advice, don't paint the inside of the tank if you do it. I did to prevent rust because the tank sat for a while with engine paint for high heat. Big mistake, I have to clean my boxes to remove black paint chips after I dip now. Live and learn I should have it cleaned out this Spring.


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Dangerous Black Porche in Los Trancos woods
Original post made by Anonymous, Portola Valley: Los Trancos Woods/Vista Verde, on Oct 6, 2012
I was driving up Los Trancos the other day with my 5 year old son, when a sleek, new black Porche with a 40's white male came tearing up behind me in my Honda civic. Now if my Honda civic could go any faster I would have sped up to try and accommodate, but instead he tears past me going somewhere around 60-70 over the double yellow line with a car coming down the road in the opposite lane. I swerve to the side nearly crashing into the railing.
I then am out on a walk with my son today at 9am going towards the Blue Oaks walking space. I see the same car in question with the same man in question. I stay on the side of the road with my son and tell him bluntly he can go first as he almost killed us the other day by running us off the road. I then am barraged by him telling me what a horrible influence I am on my son for telling him in so many words I didn't appreciate the way he drives around here. He tells me I need to pull over next time in one of the many turn offs on Los Trancos? Well, Im sorry I don't have a $200,000 car but not all of us can afford to be such a rich and oblivious person. I'm assuming he is obviously more important then most of us since he doesn't really care for anyone else's welfare on the road if it interferes with him driving the speed he wants to. This is not to put all wealthy people in a lump group. I have many friends that are very well off that have nothing but consideration for others and actually think before they act.
This post was mostly to vent out my frustration instead of taking it out on this gentleman, as I really should consider the source of the comments. This man seems to be one of the 4% who just doesnt care about anyone but himself and I need to remember that. Nothing said will change how this man feels or acts because he is so consumed by his own ego. That being said, Im not a perfect person and am guilty of my own falut's and mistakes, but I can see clearly enough to know when I am at fault and admit my mistakes. I could have approached this man in a more polite manner, but it was difficult when you and the one thing you cherish more than life itself are put in danger by someone who could care less. So if you know who this guy is and have a good relationship with him or are maybe related to him, maybe you can mention to him that we would all like to be safe up here and it would be really cool if he could keep his race car driving to a race track. Thanks
P.S. To whomever put up the list of dead pets hit by cars on the corner of Los Trancos and Ramona, you may want to look under this guys car.
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a resident of Woodside: other
on Oct 6, 2012 at 10:22 am
I'm sorry that you and your son had to experience such a jerk... and I thank you for bringing this to the attention of Almanac readers!
But this has nothing to do with the rich, the entitled, Porsche drivers, residents of Portola Valley or even "the 4%" which in your frustration you understandably suggest. Irresponsible drivers come in all genders, shapes, cars, styles, horsepowers, sizes, colors and wealth. They even come on bicycles as avid readers of this web site know.
You should get this person's license tag and report him to the San Mateo County Sheriff's Department. In the absence of a license tag, you can probably approximate this person's address from the streets you have seen him driving. I assure you that your local deputy will take care of this promptly and effectively.
a resident of Portola Valley: Los Trancos Woods/Vista Verde
on Oct 6, 2012 at 10:24 am
Has anyone else had an experience with this gentlemen similar to mine? Im just curious if he was just having a really bad day on both of these dates or if this is a continuing problem.
Thank you
a resident of Portola Valley: Los Trancos Woods/Vista Verde
on Oct 6, 2012 at 10:29 am
You are 100% correct. I apologize if it came off that way, but was not trying to insinuate that all wealthy people drive like that. I meant the 4% (roughly) that is contained in ALL groups of people no matter their race, social status, gender or anything else. There are bad apples in every group.
I even said:"This is not to put all wealthy people in a lump group. I have many friends that are very well off that have nothing but consideration for others and actually think before they act."
My best friend is a Porche driver, but he keeps his craziness to race tracks and the Autobahn! Hahahahaha.
I agree with you wholeheartedly and appreciate the advice. Thank you kindly
a resident of Portola Valley: Los Trancos Woods/Vista Verde
on Oct 6, 2012 at 10:33 am
To Everyone Who Read The First Complaint,
Im sorry I said anything at all. I hate to bad mouth people, but it was just so frustrating having someone care so little for the welfare of your kids over something as simple as just slowing down a bit.
a resident of Woodside: other
on Oct 6, 2012 at 10:46 am
This is a perfect forum for airing a complaint or problem that impacts our community. People should keep an eye out for this guy and report him.
I think the original poster for the comment. No apologies are necessary!
a resident of Woodside: other
on Oct 6, 2012 at 10:47 am
Sorry - I THANK the original poster for the comment.
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Oct 6, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Call the police if you witness extremely reckless driving, especially if you have the vehicle description and license plate number. They may not be able to make an arrest based on your statement alone, but they can correlate multiple statements or even have a sit down meeting with the driver to prevent further incidents from occurring. Obviously, this kind of reckless driving can easily lead to fatalities so the cops have some motivation to stop it.
a resident of Woodside: other
on Oct 7, 2012 at 10:32 am
Reporting a reckless driver to the Sheriff does two things.
First, it puts this person's driving "on the record." In the unfortunate event of an accident, it might be useful for a plaintiff to note that there have been many prior reports of reckless driving by the defendant.
Second, the Sheriff will definitely send a deputy to this person's home and notify them of the complaint. That can have some impact - it will certainly have an impact if the Sheriff ever catches this driver in the future.
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Oct 7, 2012 at 6:23 pm
He was wrong for passing the double yellow, but you were wrong for not pulling over too. The law requires slower traffic to pull over and when he was behind you, you are slower traffic.
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Oct 7, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Peter Carpenter is a registered user.
". The law requires slower traffic to pull over and when he was behind you, you are slower traffic."
CVC states:"If you are driving slowing on a two lane road and 5
or more cars are following you, you must pull to the side and
let them pass."
a resident of another community
on Oct 7, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Yep, Peter's right- you don't need to pull over for every person behind you. There's a reason the law says 5. And of course, you have to be able to pull over safely to let them pass & that's not always possible.
a resident of Atherton: other
on Oct 8, 2012 at 12:26 am
Right. You are not required to pull over, but it is a sensible thing to do anyway when a nice car suddenly shows up behind you. I mean one should check it out from all angles, and then when he passes you, you want to show your son what these can do (and if a guy driving is a jerk, perhaps explaining that not all drivers of nice machinery are jerks), and of course this avoids problems if the guy is in whatever hurry or is a genuine jerk or whatever.. Now, if the car is black maybe it is not so nice, unless it is a batman inside :)
a resident of another community
on Oct 8, 2012 at 7:57 am
Peter is not quite correct. What he claimed was the law was some paraphrasing, perhaps from the driver's handbook. While it accurately captures the intent of the law, it is wrong to cite that quote as being the CVC. The true text of the law is below, and it emphasizes safety. The law never requires you to compromise safety for someone's convenience.
21656. On a two-lane highway where passing is unsafe because of
traffic in the opposite direction or other conditions, a slow-moving
vehicle, including a passenger vehicle, behind which five or more
vehicles are formed in line, shall turn off the roadway at the
nearest place designated as a turnout by signs erected by the
authority having jurisdiction over the highway, or wherever
sufficient area for a safe turnout exists, in order to permit the
vehicles following it to proceed. As used in this section a
slow-moving vehicle is one which is proceeding at a rate of speed
less than the normal flow of traffic at the particular time and
a resident of Atherton: West Atherton
on Oct 8, 2012 at 8:12 am
So some of you actually believe that the rest of us should kowtow to expensive cars (and their rude drivers)? I know there are a lot of self-centered, self-indulgent people in this area, but that goes beyond the pale. Just because some of us prefer to invest our wealth in assets that don't depreciate does not mean that we are lesser beings. Drivers who have such poor impulse control that they need to exceed the speed limit and endanger the lives of others should not be imperiling those of us who obey the speed limit and other driving laws.
a resident of Woodside: other
on Oct 8, 2012 at 12:54 pm
The good news is he keeps driving like that, he won't be around long. I hope he does not kill anyone else when he crashes and burns.
a resident of Woodside: other
on Oct 8, 2012 at 12:58 pm
As usual, several posters are talking right past one another.
If you happen to be driving slowly on one of these roads - that is, driving slower than normal, flowing traffic in that area at that time - and there are cars behind you, simply pull over when safe and convenient and let others pass you. It doesn't matter if you are being followed by one or by five cars or if they are driving a Ferrari or a Prius.
And, in no event does this mean that anyone has permission to speed on our narrow, curvy, hilly roads. Ever.
a resident of Menlo Park: Sharon Heights
on Oct 8, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Did you get his license plate number?
Seems you could report him for reckless driving?
Endangering the life of a child?
a resident of Woodside: other
on Oct 8, 2012 at 2:09 pm
I have to sympathise with the complainer with Honda because I get tailgated often by brash young new fancy car owners in a hurry to prove that they are God's gift to mankind !! no we are following the Speed limit and we do not need to pull over if 5 cars are tailgating to speed up because I will be the one getting a speeding ticket.
a resident of Woodside: Kings Mountain/Skyline
on Oct 8, 2012 at 9:11 pm
I was driving on the 84 just west of Skyline on Sunday and a Porsche, driver not noted, zoomed past me on the double yellow arounda turn. If they crash an oncoming car, I would have not had time to stop and it could have been a pile up or a car off the cliff. When the police are contacted, they do not patrol the roads. They only patrol the main ones, like Alpine and Portola. It is a case of a reckless driver setting a bad example for Porsche owners. I do have a Porsche and drive it when not driving the kids, but no worries, one day a deer will stand in his tracks and he will learn.
a resident of Menlo Park: Park Forest
on Oct 9, 2012 at 12:35 pm
a resident of another community
on Oct 9, 2012 at 5:19 pm
There is a reason there is a double yellow line. It is not legal to pass across a double yellow line. Mr. Porsche, regardless of his income or sense of privilege would be well advised to learn the virtue of patience before he kills himself and someone else.
a resident of Portola Valley: other
on Oct 10, 2012 at 5:53 am
What's the difference between a Porsche and a porcupine?
a resident of Woodside: Woodside Hills
on Oct 11, 2012 at 8:19 am
I'm still trying to figure out why the original post refers to the reckless driver who illegally passed on a double yellow, as a "gentleman"??? Not once, but twice. The behavior described is not "gentlemanly". Thanks for posting though!
a resident of another community
on Oct 11, 2012 at 8:40 am
I've had a few experiences with an out of control driver along El Camino in Menlo Park/Atherton in the mornings. He has a personalized license plate so he's easy to spot. It's really unfortunate when inconsiderate drivers affect our day.
a resident of Woodside: other
on Oct 11, 2012 at 11:41 am
Why these posters fail to report these drivers (you have their license numbers...) to their local police or sheriff's department is totally beyond me.
a resident of Woodside: Emerald Hills
on Oct 11, 2012 at 12:44 pm
sorry that happened but please dont add in the 4% comment...does that really have to do with his irresponsibility?
a resident of another community
on Oct 11, 2012 at 3:00 pm
The 4% comment was just a made-up statistic. "This man seems to be one of the 4% who just doesnt care about anyone but himself". The original poster is not referring to the infamous 1%.
a resident of Portola Valley: Los Trancos Woods/Vista Verde
on Oct 18, 2012 at 10:51 pm
Well Everybody,
Just to be clear, I AM the original poster. I did get his lic # and did report it to the SMC Sherrif. To the others, I would have pulled over had he given me one second of chance. By the time I saw him he was flying by me in the opposite lane. Im not above pulling over if Im driving slow or even at a slower pace then someone may like no matter what the laws say, but he did not give me the option. And yes, Susan, the 4% was a made up stat, I was trying to give the human race a better chance than 1%, but AW is correct. I was just referring to the small group of"bad apples" in EVERY group
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Top photo (from left): Sandra Welch, Cynthia Vela, Adriana Perez
and Charles Kennedy. Lower photo: Eva Perez, Adriana Perez, Juan
Antonio Perez and Marcelino Perez
Student Adriana Perez wins Gateway laptop award
By Tim Brownlee
Assistant Director of Public Affairs
(Dec. 16, 2005)--Adriana Perez, a Fall 2005 graduate-to-be in multidisciplinary science, is the fall semester winner of the UTSA Office of Information Technology Laptop Award. She is the fourth winner of a Gateway computer in the award program.
Selected from fall graduates of the UTSA Academic Development Program (ADP), Perez received a commemorative certificate, Gateway laptop computer and MP3 player, software, and backpack and briefcase carrying cases at a Dec. 14 ceremony. The Hispanic Association of Colleges and Universities (HACU) and Gateway sponsor the award each spring and fall semester.
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When UTSA students, faculty and staff purchase Gateway laptop computers as part of the UTSA Student Laptop Initiative, a portion of the sales are returned to UTSA. Money placed in the fund is used to award a laptop computer each semester to an ADP student.
"I want to thank the ADP program for helping me to achieve academic success at UTSA," said Perez. "Also, I want to thank my parents, Juan Antonio Perez and Eva Perez for all of their support and for always being there for me. And, of course, I want to thank Gateway and HACU for this wonderful award."
Perez was accompanied at the Dec. 14 ceremony by her parents and younger brother, Marcelino, also an ADP participant. Additionally, older brother, Juan Antonio Jr., participated in ADP and is a UTSA graduate. The siblings anticipate a third UTSA graduate in the family as Marcelino works toward his degree.
ADP is a bridge program between high school and college for students that are accepted to UTSA on a provisional basis; the program helps those students achieve academic success. A committee led by Cynthia Rodriguez, ADP associate director in UTSA's Tomas Rivera Center for Student Success (TRC), selected ADP students with GPAs of 2.75 and above as award finalists. The GPA requirement is up a quarter of a point from previous semesters because of an increase in qualified candidates. Finalists were asked to submit resumes detailing their academic and work experience, and UTSA and community activities.
The award was presented by Sandra Welch, vice provost for academic compliance and institutional research and interim CIO for information technology, followed by congratulations from Patricia Glenn, TRC executive director; Cynthia Rodriguez; Cynthia Vela, HACU director of communications; Lorena Blanco, HACU director of development and marketing -- and former Tomas Rivera Center tutor; and Charles Kennedy, Gateway public sector senior account manager for higher education and K-12.
Perez participated in ADP in the summer of 2000. As a UTSA freshman, she volunteered with church retreats and maintained her studies while connecting with students and staff through jobs at TRC as a science tutor and front-desk assistant. She moved on to assist in the Office of the Vice Provost at the Downtown Campus and then the Undergraduate Advising Center, also at the Downtown Campus.
With plans to become a teacher, Perez has teaching experience from Poe Middle School and recently completed field work at O'Connor and John Jay high schools.


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How long will a 2 gallon bucket of 2:1 last on an average hive?
How long will a 2 gallon bucket of 2:1 last on an average hive?
That depends on quite a few different things.
Right now, it will last until it molds or the temperature of the syrup goes above 50F for a few hours, since the bees won't take when it's colder than that.
On my small swarm hive this September, probably an afternoon at most, they sucked down 9 gallons in a week storing syrup for winter.
One one of my hives it would last 1-2 weeks after the temp was well above 50 degrees.....
Grandchildren are the best.... Bees a close second....
Anywhere from six months to one day depending on the temperature, the time of year, the strength of the hive etc...
If I put it on in October, it will likely still be there in April... if I put warm syrup on in April on a warm day it may be gone before dark...
Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 42y 40h 39yTF
Asking about an average hive is like asking how long an average piece of string is...
...so the average answer to the question will be "it depends" (as above) or inaccurate.
Im sorry i asked!!! If thats the kind of answers im going to get on here i wont be posting anymore better yet, I prefer YOU not answer my questions from now on Beregondo!
OK, two gallons of syrup will last 10 days.
Is that answer more what you were looking for? Is it useful to you?
USDA Zone 7A Elevation 1400 ft
I'm not trying to be a smart Alec, Myron.
I apologize if I've offended you.
I'm truly trying to be helpful:
The less specific your question is the more difficult it is to answer helpfully.
Any very specific answer to a general question about an "average" hive may be comforting but will seldom be accurate.
Consider the variability above; one guys says, "hours" another says, possibly 6 months.
That's what I mean by reference to an average piece of string and "it depends".
And the warning that anything other thaera genreal answer will not likely be accurate.
Not trying to be a wise guy or poke fun at all.
Just forget i asked. I thought this was the place for a new beek to ask questions of this nature. May be in a few years i will know it all and i can give smarta$$ answers.
Wow, it must be tough walking around every day with that enormous chip on you shoulder. Those were helpful, if witty, responses to a vague question. I have found this site to be very helpful. If you are willing to take it down a notch there is a wealth of information and opinions at your finger tips.
Have a good day and good luck in your endeavors.
Dan Hayden 5 Years. 10 hives. Tx Free. USDA Zone 5b.
> May be in a few years i will know it all and i can give smarta$$ answers.
There are plenty of examples on Beesource of people who don't know it all and still offer "smarta$$ answers". Sometimes that includes me ....
The best way to ask questions on Beesource is to provide enough details to give a background to your question, without writing so much that the reader's eyes glaze over. Then you have to sort thru the anwers you get, and toss out the ones that don't apply to your situation. Then decide if those remaining are credible. Not always easy to do.
You can learn a lot more, in my opinion, by reading posts that are not specifically about your current situation, but may apply to you in the future.
USDA Zone 7A Elevation 1400 ft
They all mean well Myron... sometimes our sense of humors do not match....!...
Generaly a strong hive in the warm season will take about a gallon a week thats the amount most commercial guys figure. With brood and nectar flows changing that from a gallon in a cpl days to lasting 3-4 weeks. a lot of that will depend on how easy access they have to it.
I am sorry if you got the impression you were being made fun of. I don't think any of us said anything with malice. We are just trying to point out the things that make the answer variable and cover the breadth of that variability. Please do not take it personally. It was not intended that way at all.
Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 42y 40h 39yTF
Myron, I am still new at beekeeping just like you. I'm still in the learning phase too. If the answer I got here not match my situation I will dismiss it. Use the ones that fit my current situation and learn from them. Then I will go do my own experiment. Surely, at time my experiment did not work out. But I will change it according to my hive situation. Whatever it is to make things work for my bees.
To address your question it really depends on how active your bees are. If you feed them outside then it depends on the temperature and weather as well. If the weather is bad then they will not feed. So it might take 2 months or more until they finish the syrup. If the weather is warm and your bees are active without any source of nectar then they will take it up in two or three weeks. Some question I would ask is how many frames of bees do you currently have in your hive? And do you feed them inside or outside the hive? For example, now I have at least 3 frames all packed with bees. Some are young bees just hatched so those cannot fly outside to feed yet. Since I put syrup for outside feed as well on a good warm sunny day there are about 300 bees feeding come and go. In 2 weeks all my syrup are gone that they deposit inside the honey combs. So in your situation I would guess 3 weeks or so....it really depends on the outside environment and how hungry are your bees right now. Again, if my example not match your situation go ahead to do some experiment since everybody's bee environment is different from year to year. Over time we will learn and be more proficient at beekeeping. Use our own best judgement to do things that fit us most. Don't be afraid to try, keep track and give feedback.
In good or bad situation there is a lesson to be learn.
Also, beware that they might want the syrup but not be able to get any because 2:1 is bad for crystallizing over the screen and blocking the syrup. I had a lot of trouble in the fall with it crystallizing, and in the end I had to feed 1:1. I would try a hive top feeder for 2:1, it probably wouldn't be so troublesome. But if the hive is strong enough they can take it fast enough for it not to crystallize it seems.
Good enough is perfect - Joel Salatin
"add a tablespoon of Honey-B-Healthy per gallon of syrup."
Another thread I post said put something healthy for the bees too not just
the syrup alone. Then watch them grow. I will be getting some of that too to
mix in with the syrup. There is so much to learn here.
Like what was mentioned, two gallons might be taken in a day, sometimes a week or more. Another thing that could effect the consumption is if a flow starts, the bees will opt for the natural stuff over sugar syrup.
We are all out to help new beekeepers here, but sometimes the answer is right in front of your face on a thread but because you haven't experienced certain aspects of beekeeping yet, it's hard to fathom what others are talking about.
Coyote Creek Bees
Just a thought to add - It is still February, and it can still freeze up. A lot of beeks use a fondant board on top of the frames (a deep inner cover with candy on it) and pollen (or pollen substitute) patties instead of liquid feed when freezing is still a possibility. Again, how long will it last? Answer: keep an eye on it. It could save a colony from starvation, so I offer it as food for thought.


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SANTA CRUZ — My new foodie friend, Joseph, wants to be a food critic. Or a ninja.
Joe, who just turned 10, initially wanted to base his fourth-grade career project on becoming a ninja. But he was supposed to interview someone already employed in his field of choice. Where can you find a ninja nowadays?
So he turned to his second choice, food critic. This doesn't sound as exciting as performing ancient martial arts, except that his inspiration was wild man Andrew Zimmern of Travel Channel's "Bizarre Foods." In answer to Joseph's email requesting an interview, I told him I'd be glad to answer his questions but warned him that I'm not as weirdly interesting as Zimmern. I also invited him to join me for a review meal.
Joe met me at Focaccia restaurant on Water Street last week, accompanied by his mother, father and 12-year-old sister, Sarah. We were escorted to the restaurant's back alcove by the friendly hostess/server, Anna, who took our drink orders for Pellegrino Italian Fruit Sodas ($2.50 each), Sprite ($2) and Iced Tea ($2). Focaccia also has a modest but appealing beer and wine list that includes several local and Italian choices.
I could tell that Joe's parents, Anna and Muliady, had taught their children about restaurant dining. Sarah ordered Fettuccini Alfredo with Chicken ($14), self-assuredly substituting penne for the fettuccini, and Joe knew immediately that he wanted Pizza Margherita ($9).
Muliady chose Ravioli ai Funghi ($15) with porcini filling and Anna ordered Piperone Ripieno ($15), a spicy dish that appealed to her Indonesian background. Our server, Anna, confirmed that the gnocchi was housemade, inspiring me to select Gnocchi with Gorgonzola Cream Sauce ($15). We also ordered two appetizers, Calamari Fritti ($10) and Prosciutto e Burrata ($12).
Our meal began with baskets of soft, crusty-topped pieces of, appropriately enough, housemade focaccia, served with saucers of olive oil striped with sun-dried tomato, crushed garlic and olive tapenade. Joe picked up a piece of bread and his face lit up.
"This ismy first time having warm bread to dip in olive oil," he said, taking a bite. "It's good."
The lightly breaded calamari tentacles and thinsliced rings were crispy and tender, and the accompanying sauce was cayenne-hot and quite vinegary. Our burrata appetizer featured two pieces of imported burrata, mozzarella's voluptuous cousin, wrapped in prosciutto that was richly flavorful but sliced a little thick. The burrata itself was heavenly, its toothsome exterior giving way to marvelous creaminess. A side salad of ripe tomato, avocado, basil and nutty olive oil completed this excellent starter.
Joe asked me questions about being a restaurant reviewer during the meal and admired the little recorder that I use instead of taking notes. I learned that Sarah is a budding writer interested in journalism and that the family eats out at least once a week, which explained the kids' restaurant-savvy.
The first entree delivered was Joe's handsome pizza, bright tomato sauce peeking from under a generous layer of cheese topped with basil chiffonade. He pulled a slice apart and grinned as the mozzarella stretched satisfyingly.
"Cheesy," he said decided-ly, after his first bite. "And I like that the crust is thin, not thick like American pizza."
Sarah's pasta was served in a colorfully edged shallow bowl, her perfectly al dente penne revealing tender, juicy pieces of chicken breast under a mild alfredo sauce. Muliady and I both thought that his hearty, half-moon ravioli (pansotti) imported from Italy was a little chewy; but the fresh-tasting spinach cream sauce nicely complemented and enhanced the porcini filling's rich earthiness.
Anna's full-flavored entree featured a roasted pasilla pepper stuffed with bits of tender, slow-cooked pork shoulder and jalapenos, blanketed with tomato-chunky amatriciana sauce. Her plate also held crisp-edged potato pieces and a tangle of roasted peppers, zucchini and onion.
"I like spicy," Anna said. "And I liked this very much."
With gnocchi, the devil is in the texture and taste. My fork sank easily into the light, puffy pasta, which melted in my mouth with a velvety rush of Gorgonzola saltiness and rich cream. I added a sprinkling of grated Belgioioso Parmesan cheese, the tanginess pleasantly sharpening the flavors. This gnocchi was Joe and Sarah's first, and they awarded it a definitive thumbs-up. In fact, the gnocchi earned the most votes for favorite dish of the meal, although the others were close behind.
My young foodie friend and his sister also had never tried another Italian classic: Tiramisu ($7). Focaccia's housemade version was an exquisite example of this layered delight, beginning with its presentation. Decorated with puffs of whipped cream and dusted with cocoa and confectioner's sugar, the dessert yielded delicately into a bouquet of flavors.
I hope Joseph didn't mind that we didn't eat any bizarre foods. And I hope he gets an A.
Ann Parker welcomes comments, feedback and suggestions about reviews for area restaurants. Contact her at email@example.com.
- WHERE: 503 Water St., Santa Cruz
- HOURS: 11:30 a.m. to 9:30 p.m. daily
- AMBIANCE: Casual but refined, colorful, familyfriendly
- COST: Reasonable (pizza and entrees, $9-$22)
- DETAILS: 831-425-1213, www.focacciasantacruz. com Read more Sentinel dining reviews at www. santacruzsentinel.com/ food.


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Finally getting around to introducing myself. Kind of got interested in beekeeping earlier this year, but it didn't really gel for me until early May, which of course if pretty late in the season. But I read, and read, and read. Joined Collin County Beekeepers Association and was blown away by the # of people attending and the various fascinating occupations and walks of life they represented. Actually got all of my supplies and bees over Memorial Day and had to scramble to get it all done. And already made a major mistake. But biting off more than I can chew and THEN having to figure out how to swallow is a very common approach to life for me.
I live in the Dallas suburbs, which makes finding a space to keep bees very interesting. I finally ended up siting the hive in my backyard, steps away from our swimming pool (ought to make for an interesting summer). So far, my youngest daughter (11) seems to be the only one to go along with mom's latest whimsy. But maybe I can interest the others as time goes on.
Have had many, many animals over the years (various numbers and breeds of dogs, cats, lizards, guinea pigs, ferrets, lovebirds, parakeets, fish, etc., etc., etc.) which partially explains on-line name. So why not bees?
Looking forward to learning as much as I can!
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#1 Sat 10 Feb 07 4:10am
- Member Occupation Student
- From Gold Coast, Queensland.
- Member since Mon 07 Aug 06
I don't understand.
I don't understand why schools don't make an effort to feed the students healthy foods.
I am from Australia and my new school does not serve chocolate, chips, soft drink or anything like that! Strictly vegie lasagnas, chicken & salad rolls, sushi and other nutritionally profitable foods.
What else I don't understand is why naive students are posting on the forums protests against Jamie Oliver and his revolutionary work in tuckshops worldwide.
I can not beleive that students are complaining like that!
I love the foods in my schools tuckshop and I have never heard any complain that they are unhappy with the school's decision.
The tuckshop is not short of buisness, is not short of profit and the students of Helensvale High are not short of a healthy lunch.
I just don't understand.
#2 Sat 10 Feb 07 7:23am
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- From sydney, nsw, australia
- Member since Mon 20 Nov 06
Re: I don't understand.
I'm with you, callum!
i dont understand why kids whinge that the healthy food they get served is 'crap!'
the food at my skool in NSW is absolute rubish! i get funny looks from the kids if i bring a HEALTHY salad or decsent foods, shouldnt it be the other way round? its becoz they arent used to food like that, and instead buy pies and coke from the canteen. our skool recently made healthy changes. wanna kno what the biggest change was? they replaced normal coke for diet coke!!!!!
kids in 3rd world countries would give anything for a bit of nutritious food, yet, kids that come from a more privelidged background carry on because they cant have there fave foods like greasy burgers!!!
geez, i think people should stop taking for granted what they have got, and take a look at how kids are starving on the other side of the world!!!!!!!!
#3 Sat 10 Feb 07 5:46pm
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Re: I don't understand.
Hi Callum and Emmylu, I think it all comes down to money!! The government here in the US puts children and elderly at the bottom of the list when it comes to the budget. These last 6 years have been the worst. Hopefully in 2 years the people will change the government makeup and common sense will prevail! Good luck to both of you and keep those good heads on your shoulders!!
#4 Sun 11 Feb 07 2:24am
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Re: I don't understand.
thanks ann.
i think it has a lot to do with money, but at our skool, i think its more to do with fact the teachers dont care.
at the end of the day, they can go and sit in the staff room and eat whatever they want, wheras the students get left with the crappy food from the canteen... we dont get the luxury.
but as i said, i think when you come from a country that has the priveledge of choosing what you eat and when you eat it, you tend to take this for granted more than we should... we should just be happy we actualy have food on our table everyday...
#5 Sun 11 Feb 07 6:12am
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Re: I don't understand.
Hi ANN long time no see
I think the issue in the US is a stupid war that was unnecessary and unwanted takes prority over anything else at present.
#6 Sun 11 Feb 07 2:36pm
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Re: I don't understand.
Hi Sadie! , That's very very true!! Hope you are doing well! Miss you at Nora's.
#7 Sun 11 Feb 07 2:59pm
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Re: I don't understand.
Been a bit busy and only just get to get on here for a short time.
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