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Official Rules and Regulations of Disc Golf
Revised January 1st, 2013
Summary of Rules Changes
The 2013 edition of the PDGA Rules represents a significant rewrite of the 2011 revision. While most of the significant changes are structural in nature, there are some new concepts being introduced as well as minor to moderate changes to actual rules. No major changes to the rules of play have been made.
The rules have been restructured to flow from basic to complex in an effort to improve the flow and to make it easier for both beginning and advanced players to find what they are looking for. Previously, all rules of play were gathered into a single section (803). Those rules have now been split into "Basic Rules of Play" (intended especially for new players), and then "The Lie" and "The Throw" which are more comprehensive and mostly handle problem scenarios. In general, rules are presented in chronological order based on what happens during play. As a side effect of the restructuring, the rules have been renumbered.
New Stuff
There is a new section called "Application of the Rules" which gathers together the procedures related to enforcement of the rules. Those procedures were formerly detailed as part of each rule.
Position vs Lie: The concept of a disc's position - the spot it occupies on the playing surface - has been separated from the lie (which is marked relative to the position). Previously, those were two separate meanings of the single term "lie".
The section that was previously called "Playing the Stipulated Course" has been expanded, reformulated, and renamed "Misplay".
New sections have been added for discretionary and experimental rules. Discretionary rules can be invoked by the TD without an exemption from the PDGA. So far, the two-meter rule is the only discretionary rule. Experimental rules are suggested variations that still require an exemption from the PDGA.
Definitions added: Approximate Position, Falling Putt, In-bounds, Position, Previous Lie, Re-throw, Tee Line
Definitions removed: Completion of a Round, Fairway, Thrower, Two meter rule
Only one witness is required for a violation that results in a warning. Confirmation from a second person is required for a violation that results in a penalty throw. If a throw is subject to more than one violation, the one with the most severe penalty is applied. For example, a throw from an illegal stance that goes OB is penalized for being OB. Ties are broken by chronological order of the violations. For example, a throw that goes OB and then crosses the wrong side of a mandatory is OB.
The 30-second clock (excessive time) now starts when you reach your disc, rather than after you mark it, since a disc may not be marked. You can no longer stand over your disc holding your mini for an indefinite amount of time.
Carrying an illegal disc is no longer punishable by itself. You have to throw it for there to be a penalty. The same goes for an illegal device. You are allowed to use a towel or pad on a lie. GPS devices are no longer disallowed.
"The thrown disc establishes a position where it first comes to rest." That is an important concept which provides a basis for many other rules. Once a position has been established, it remains even if the disc moves, no matter how that happens. The following rules are now related to establishing position: disc above/below ground, broken disc, and disc in water or foliage.
The disc on the playing surface is now the primary way to mark the lie. The use of a mini is presented as an alternative.
The thrower cannot call or second a stance violation. That closes the self-called falling putt loophole. You are now allowed to retrieve a disc after a stance violation (the excessive time rule still applies of course). There is no longer a three-second limit on calling a stance violation. All calls must be made promptly, as noted in "Application of the Rules".
A few exemptions have been added to the interference rules: interference to prevent injury or to prevent (with the thrower's consent) a disc from becoming lost is allowed.
The two-meter rule has been moved to "Discretionary Rules".
"Playing from Another Player's Lie" is now an "Incorrect Lie" misplay, meaning there's just one penalty throw instead of two. The player whose disc was moved handles it the same as the disc being moved for any other reason, and replaces it to its approximate position.
The entire group must assist in the search for a lost disc. Whoever starts the clock has to tell the group that it has started.
You can no longer throw back across a mandatory line after having made the mandatory. There's no longer a default drop zone. If the Director has not designated a drop zone, go to the previous lie.
A scorecard is late after 30 rather than 25 minutes.


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Alright, everyone. Inspired by the underwhelming "The Host" this past weekend, I thought it would be a good time to discuss GOOD Science Fiction movies.
Sci-Fi movies have a long lineage, dating all the way back to the earliest days of film, so there should be no shortage of choices for everyone.
It's also a broad genre, encapsulating movies that seem to be more fantasy films set in space, such as "Star Wars", or action movies set in space, such as the most recent "Star Trek", to movies that are based around hardcore science and scientific endeavors. Any type of movie involving an alien is deemed Sci-Fi, from "Close Encounters" to "The Thing".
So with so much to choose from, what will you choose? "Blade Runner"? "Dark City"? "Total Recall"?
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The master suite of this Seagrove, Florida, beach house features a private lanai that runs the length of the home. Sliding glass doors provide an unobstructed view to the blue-green water outside. The window seat beyond gives the homeowners yet another cozy spot to enjoy the beach below.
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Its when you have 3-4 (or more) girls that are eating each other simultaneously. None of them end up without getting pleased, giving it the idea of a chain, since its usually better done in a circular chain-like position.
Dude, so I stayed there with those chicks from class and they totally started a dixie chain right in front of me! I couldnt break it up, I just stared and watched.
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#1 Tue 06 Feb 07 4:11pm
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Jamies Little Book of Big Treats
Have any of you bought this yet? It's brilliant! really simple little dishes... the chocolate brownies are to die for.
#2 Wed 07 Feb 07 10:30am
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Re: Jamies Little Book of Big Treats
hope you all like the Comic Relief thing going on here at the mo...
and just in case you didn't quite notice (!) you can buy the book online from rednoseday.com or pick it up from Sainsbury's or any other good book shop!
the whole 3 squids all go to Comic Relief...
Jamie's put the brownie recipe up here for you as a taster:
http://www.jamieoliver.com/recipes/dess … t_brownies
if you do bake a whole truck load of those brownies and flapjacks etc - do let us know how you get on and if you manage to sell em on to raise a bit of extra dosh for charity...
good luck!
#3 Thu 08 Feb 07 6:37pm
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Re: Jamies Little Book of Big Treats
I want to buy this book, as it looks fantastic, and i think the whole idea is wonderful, but, being in Canada, i can't seem to get my hands on one! I went to the red nose day site, and my address doesn't seem to be one that they ship to . Anyone know where i can get one of these fabulous little books?
#4 Mon 12 Feb 07 2:19am
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Will this book be available in Australia Jamie?
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Re: Jamies Little Book of Big Treats
I too have just tried buying it but the charity only ships to the UK (even though they list many countries...)
I don't mind covering the postage costs.
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image.jpgHow can a tell if I got the queen with the swarm? This is my first time collecting a swarm and I was very careful, but what is the best way to know she is there. Here's the recap of what I did and my observations so far. I would welcome any and all constructive comments and suggestions.
I collected a large swarm (about 9 or 10 lbs) two days ago. The swarm was positioned in a tough location and took some time to carefully relocate. I transferred it directly to three medium hive bodies with a couple of drawn frames and the remainder of the frames with foundation. I let the hive bodies sit for about 45 minutes once I got the majority of the bees in and the remaining bees from the swarm went into the boxes on their own. The bees were very quiet once they settled in. I then sealed the boxes with a moving screen on top a relocated them keeping them confined in the hive until the next afternoon. Around 4 pm the next day, I opened the hive entrance and added some additional frames of foundation to fill the boxes. The bees were calm and within an hour they were all over the holly bushes and flowering trees in the area. This morning they were out flying and outside of the hive by 6am. This evening they are very active and flying , but are much louder than yesterday. I did not see any pollen coming back to the hive. How long should I wait to inspect?
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Hikvision, Solink Reveal Integration Partnership
Hikvision will integrate its embedded recording devices with Solink's event-based video discovery platform as part of the partnership.
By SSI Staff · April 2, 2014
LAS VEGAS — Hikvision and Solink announce the integration of Hikvision's embedded recording devices with Solink's event-based video discovery platform. The integration allows Hikvision's video recorders to seamlessly access Solink's unique contextual analytics and business applications for loss prevention, operations, risk management, and other data intensive fields.
Hikvision operates in a diverse set of verticals including retail and offers a wide range of best-in-class video recording products, ranging from SMB sectors to professional enterprise applications. Rich variety of core functions is available, including recording, display, playback, camera management, triggered recording on prescribed events and search on parameters such as date, timeline and event. Hikvision embedded recording products provide users maximum benefits in terms of ease-of-use, massive storage capacity and system reliability.
Solink's retail application uses video data to help retailers understand and make better decisions around loss prevention and content management. Integration with Hikvision allows retailers to better manage shrink through a contextual exception based reporting system. By adding structured video data to traditional data sources, Solink enables decision makers to quickly identify and react to threats and opportunities across their business.
"Our customers are interested in maximizing the use of video intelligence to protect business assets and increase revenue," said Jeffrey He, president Hikvision USA. "Our association with Solink opens a new level of enhanced video analytics and content analysis that will redefine the use and value of stored and live video recordings."
"With integrations to many point of sale and retail solution vendors currently available, Solink can analyze customer and employee behavior by leveraging video and data analytic triggers", said Solon Angel, head of product at Solink. "The Solink platform allows for data to be consolidated and alerted-upon once suspicious events are identified. This type of data-driven decision making is quickly becoming a standard amongst owners, managers and executive teams."


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Week in review: New law allows testing of driverless cars; Duggan picks cabinet members; ForeSee acquired
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Snyder signs driverless car testing law
Gov. Rick Snyder signed the long-called-for automated motor vehicle legislation, allowing for manufacturers to test driverless cars on Michigan roads.
Signed by Snyder on Dec. 27, the two bills, SB 169 and SB 663, passed the Michigan Senate earlier this month. SB 169 allows automakers, suppliers and upfitters to test the technology on public roads, but regulations state that a human must be in the driver's seat during testing to intervene, if necessary. SB 663, a companion bill, provides liability protection for automakers from civil suits caused by defective technology from suppliers.
Michigan joins California, Nevada, Florida and Washington, D.C., in passing driverless car legislation. Eight other states have been debating similar bills.
On the move
• Detroit Mayor-elect Mike Duggan nominated Melvin "Butch" Hollowell, 54, as the city's next corporation counsel, replacing Portia Roberson, 44, whom he nominated to lead the city's new Civil Rights and Justice Division. Chuck Raimi, 62, was nominated as deputy corporation counsel. Duggan also nominated Second Deputy Fire Commissioner Jonathan Jackson, 44, as interim fire commissioner; that appointment would have to be approved by the Detroit City Council under the rules of the city charter.
• Charlie Beckham, 66, who has served under every Detroit mayor since Coleman A. Young, was named by Mayor-elect Mike Duggan as group executive for neighborhoods. Duggan named Melissa Smiley, 36, his transition team's research director, as deputy chief of staff, and John Roach, 48, as director of communications, continuing in the same role he had with the campaign and transition team.
Company news
• A $40 million continuing care retirement community, Cedarbrook of Bloomfield Hills, is scheduled to open in September 2015 after groundbreaking earlier this month on Woodward Avenue north of Opdyke Road, said Michael J. Damone, president of Cedarbrook Senior Living LLC. Damone selected Daniel Tosch from Bloomfield Hills-based Progressive Associates Inc. as the project's architect.
• Ann Arbor-based Internet analytics firm ForeSee Results Inc. was acquired by St. Louis, Mo.-based Answers Corp. for more than $200 million. Further terms were not disclosed. In 2013, ForeSee Results is projected to have revenue of $52 million, according to Crain's estimates, up from about $25 million in 2009.
• Bedrock Real Estate Services LLC, the development arm of Dan Gilbert's real estate empire in Detroit, closed on the purchase of the eight-story retail/office building at 1400 Woodward Ave. The purchase price was not known. The current home of Eastern Wig & Hair Co., the 60,000-square-foot building was constructed in 1925, said Washington, D.C.-based real estate information service CoStar Group Inc.
• TRW Automotive Holdings Corp. subsidiary Kelsey-Hayes Co. will close a plant in Sterling Heights that supplied brake components to Chrysler Group LLC's Sterling Heights Assembly Plant and will lay off 64 employees by February.
• Ally Financial Inc., the Detroit-based auto lender majority owned by the U.S. government, won regulatory approval to change its holding-company status, allowing the firm to keep an insurance business and a vehicle-auction website.
• Ann Arbor-based United Bancorp Inc. said it bought back all of the remaining 10,300 shares of preferred stock issued to the U.S. Department of Treasury under the Troubled Asset Relief Program.
Other news
• The city of Detroit reached a new settlement in its bid to terminate interest rate swap contracts with UBS AG and Bank of America Corp. Under the agreement presented to Gerald Rosen, chief district judge of the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Michigan and lead mediator in the bankruptcy, the banks will allow the city to terminate its contracts for $165 million, a 43 percent discount. Rhodes is to review the deal and the post-petition financing at a hearing Jan. 3.
• State and Detroit officials selected a seven-member advisory committee to offer guidance about Belle Isle, Michigan's new state park. The panel will be chaired by Michele Hodges, president of the Belle Isle Conservancy, The Associated Press reported. Belle Isle is owned by Detroit but will be run by the Michigan Department of Natural Resources starting in February. The committee will keep an eye on park improvements and public safety.
• Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, the state's largest health insurer, gave some people an extra week to buy insurance in time for coverage that would kick in on Jan. 1, saying that roughly half of those purchasing plans on their own can skip enrollment on the government's website.
• A new study by St. Louis, Mo.-based United Van Lines indicates that migration out of Michigan has finally slowed to a virtual halt. Michigan was about evenly balanced between inbound and outbound moves. The state had 16 straight years of outbound migration and was tops in outbound moves from 2006 through 2009.
• Michigan residents are expected to be among the biggest beneficiaries of a $100 million settlement with a Framingham, Mass.-based pharmacy company, New England Compounding Center, linked to a nationwide outbreak of fungal meningitis causes by tainted steroid injections. Authorities say 22 of the 64 people who died in the outbreak were from Michigan.
• Gov. Rick Snyder signed into law a campaign finance bill that will continue to keep secret the names of donors who pay for issue ads. He also signed a five-bill package that creates criminal penalties for attaching high-tech "skimmer" devices to ATMs to record debit-card information, the AP reported.
• Harold R. Varner, whose architecture company, Varner & Associates, designed the Charles H. Wright Museum of African American History, among other metro Detroit buildings, died Dec. 14. He was 78.
• Robert W. Wilson, a retired New York City hedge fund founder and philanthropist and Detroit native, died Dec. 23. He was 87.


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#21 Thu 06 Jan 11 2:59am
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Re: Food intolerances and allergies
I honestly don't know if it's allergies/intolerances that have become common, or our awareness of them?
#22 Thu 06 Jan 11 3:24am
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Re: Food intolerances and allergies
They have definitely become more common place. It was a rare thing 5years ago to hear of many people with a gluten intolerance or even go to a restaurant that made gluten free meals. Now, the amount of people with senstivities has increased 10-fold!
PLUS. I think it has also had a boost from the super health conscious that believe by eating gluten free they are becoming healthier. Trust me -it's a high GI diet if you aren't careful and that is never good for one's internal workings! A balanced diet is quite often the best thing ie. Eating a variety of fresh fruit & vegetables, dairy, meat, chicken and fish.
That's just my views though....
#23 Thu 06 Jan 11 9:53pm
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Re: Food intolerances and allergies
Things like coeliac disease haven't increased, they are just more diagnosed. It's a genetic disorder the only way it increases is by more people being born with one of the genes and being affected by it. In some places, like ireland, there are more people with it than other areas.
As to whether the is a real increase or if it's just a preceived increase as a result of better diagnosis or better public awareness, I'm not sure.
#24 Thu 06 Jan 11 9:56pm
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Re: Food intolerances and allergies
15 years ago I thought there was a lot of "Scaremongering" regards allergies....
...then at the age of 40/41 I had my first experience of Anyphlaxis..(SP)..
.....not a pleasant experience, I blame the peanuts...
#25 Thu 06 Jan 11 10:06pm
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Re: Food intolerances and allergies
An article about allergy tests that don't actually work http://www.allergy.org.au/content/view/322/271/
#26 Fri 07 Jan 11 11:23pm
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- Member since Wed 22 Dec 10
Re: Food intolerances and allergies
I get the impression that in the past, people were just branded as 'sickly', and resigned themselves to a lifetime of illness, and doctors gave up on them after a while. Now medical science has improved, we can isolate the causes of what's making people ill.
#27 Sat 08 Jan 11 4:05pm
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Re: Food intolerances and allergies
Yep I think you're right Smellycat. My daughter and MIL are both celiac, and we've discussed this very point. My MIL remembers her father as always having a bit of a dodgy stomach, and as it is a genetic disease it is more than likely that he would have been Celiac. Thank goodness that now people can know what is making them so ill!
#28 Tue 18 Jan 11 2:52pm
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Re: Food intolerances and allergies
My older sisters allergic to many things, eggs, all dairy products, peanuts, bananas, strawberries, raspberries, tomatoes and wheat.
Though not all her allergies are sever, she can eat like one egg and thats it, any more then her throat itches, peanuts, bananas, strawberries and raspberries however, her throat swells up.
Cooking for her is a nightmare so many things include some of the products listed, I usually end up doing a chicken salad, and for me ceasar dressing, for her sweet and sour.
Makes a change from her usual of hummus with various sticks of vegetables
#29 Tue 18 Jan 11 10:32pm
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Re: Food intolerances and allergies
Welcome here Cazzie, your sister must love you to cook for her!
#30 Wed 20 Jul 11 5:22pm
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Re: Food intolerances and allergies
I wondered if some one can help me!! i am allergic to alcohol but love food such as rabbit stew, game pie etc. Does any one know what i can put in my food to substitute the likes of a can of bitter or a bottle of ale ???


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Here's who the Maine Republican Party should nominate for governor in 2010:
A zombie.
It doesn't matter if it's the monster-movie kind or the tiki-bar-cocktail kind. One is brain-dead. The other makes you brain-dead. Either would be an improvement over the array of allegedly living GOP contenders for the nomination.
For that matter, so would a mummy. Or a mai tai.
In fact, the perfect Republican gubernatorial candidate would be a member of the undead who's also a bartender. At worst, such a nominee would liven up the post-election celebration ("Look, there's a finger in my drink"). At best, he or she would frighten the faithful into doing some serious thinking about what they stand for, what they hope to accomplish, and how to effectively communicate that message to voters ("Look, there are brains all over our platform").
It's not as if having a standard-bearer who's more-or-less deceased would require a major policy shift. Republicans already act as if their preferred mode of travel is in the back of a hearse, their favorite campaign location is a cemetery, and their most successful fundraiser is GOP Goth night ("I told you, Senator Collins, black is the new red"). A vampire as the nominee would fit right in. And a candidate from beyond the grave might be just the thing to enliven (so to speak) the proceedings, shocking Republicans into shedding their rigor mortis and becoming competitive again.
The reason the GOP could go from dead to ahead in the polls in a hurry is because their competition is ... well, let me phrase this as delicately as possible.
Maine Democrats appear to be full-throttle, Texas-Chainsaw-Massacre wacko.
Just take a look at a representative sampling of the Dems' legislative agenda. It includes:
A bill to make it illegal to reveal what a specific state employee is paid.
A bill to make it all but impossible to build any large-scale commercial projects anywhere in rural Maine.
A bill to make creating jobs during a recession less of a priority than fighting global warming.
A bill to reduce lighting after sundown, so we can see the stars. But not the things that go bump in the night.
In contrast, here's a selection from the Republicans' agenda, as spelled out by the party's legislative leadership at a little-noticed news conference on April 9 (the lack of interest on the part of the media may have had something to do with the clever idea of announcing a legislative agenda after two-thirds of the current session was already over).
The GOP wants to give us:
A "Caring" government. Like I care.
A requirement that before graduating from high school, students should have a basic knowledge of "consumer science." Will they get to dissect a consumer?
A plan to lower the income tax — just as soon as the economy improves, state revenues rebound, and pigs fly.
What isn't mentioned is:
Much of anything about putting people back to work or keeping the people who are working from being laid off. House Minority Leader Joshua Tardy, one of the aforementioned, semi-comatose gubernatorial candidates, did say he was in favor of "a strong employment base and better jobs, greater prosperity for our citizens," but never explained how the GOP intended to accomplish that.
Subsidies for flying-pig farms, maybe?
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On Thursday and Friday, March 7 and 8, Hope College will host its 41th annual Model United Nations conference for high school students.
More than 700 students and faculty from the greater Midwest will compete in the various simulations. Acting as delegates from the 192 member nations of the United Nations in two General Assemblies, four Security Councils, an International Court of Justice (ICJ), and an Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC), the students will be faced with issues pertaining to the current international affairs.
Issues that will be discussed in this year's conference include military spending against human needs, unity for peacekeeping, role of drug trafficking in financing terrorism, prevention of failed state, the Mali conflict, North Pole territorial claims, Syria, the need for Education, and the global economic crisis.
The purpose of Model United Nations is to give high school students an opportunity to take on the roles of professional diplomats with the goal of achieving a particular country's national objectives while fostering a desired international consensus for real solutions to the questions facing them.HopeCollege's department of political science sponsors the event.
Participating students, with the help of faculty advisors, have been preparing for weeks for the conference by working to identify the current issue positions of countries they have selected to represent. Throughout the event, they will discuss with their peer delegates in order to attain solutions that they feel best resolve various international problems.
ECOSOC, Security Council and ICJ members begin their sessions Thursday evening and continue throughout the day Friday. General Assembly members arrive Friday morning and will debate during the day.
In addition to the various sessions, students arriving Thursday will attend an opening banquet at the Haworth Inn andConferenceCenterthat night. The Model United Nations will conclude with an awards ceremony on Friday, March 8, at3:45 p.m.in Dimnent Memorial Chapel.
The Hope College Model United Nations is organized by students in political science courses aimed at understanding international politics and the role of the United Nations in international disputes and resolutions. The Hope students serve as session chairpersons and perform other administrative tasks throughout the formation and execution of the event.


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Call of Duty won the year. Again.
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24 more games that made us think, sweat, gasp, weeping, spill our morning tea and rub ours faces fervently on our monitors crying "o video games, most and best of everything, forever".
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24 of the games that made 2016 such a magnificent, roaring beast of a year to be in love with the king of all entertainment and artistic media: the not-so-humble video game.
Watch The Game Awards 2016 here - find out who wins, check out the game reveals
The Game Awards 2016 kicks off tonight, and continuing the tradition, we'll be covering everything that comes out of it.
Pokemon Sun & Moon guide: how to evolve every new Pokemon
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During ESX 2014, Honeywell's Scott Harkins detailed what electronic security dealers can do to appeal to consumers who want home automation solutions. Listen to his insights in this podcast.
By SSI Staff · July 1, 2014
As more consumers seek home automation solutions for their residences, it is important for the electronic security industry to keep up with the latest technology changes.
Honeywell is one manufacturer that has embraced the connected home movement, and has launched new products to reach consumers, as well as help electronic security dealers improve on installations and help drive recurring monthly revenue.
In fact, the firm swept the Electronic Security Expo's annual Maximum Impact Awards, earning awards in four categories, including Best Home Automation System for its Vista Automation Module.
During ESX 2014, Security Sales & Integration Editor-in-Chief Scott Goldfine chatted with Honeywell Security Products President Scott Harkins about the "year of home automation" and what dealers can do to keep up with the fast-moving market.
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Our fabulous extended summer has proven two things to me. It was not an imagined wistful, youthful, memory that hot days can go on and on. It is possible.
And that tomatoes can taste like tomatoes used to.
Apart from a bumper crop in the garden, I've been getting tomatoes from my supplier that taste great. Have the commercial growers finally twigged that people want things with real flavour, not just a pretty-looking product with an extended shelf life? Fleshy beefsteaks, rich romas, sweet cherries - a fiesta of varieties has appeared. There is a huge difference in the attributes and uses of each. Tomatoes are now named and marketed beyond the generic, and what a good thing that is.
What to do with a late summer garden tomato harvest or opportunity to preserve bargain boxes? There is always your favourite sauce or chutney. You can freeze tomatoes whole, free flow, if you have enough space.
In bottling days, my mother used to fill Agee jars with cooked down tomato puree, that became the basis of winter soups or spaghetti sauces.
I tried to find some new preserving ideas. In the end, I realised all these ideas are time tested, "everything old is new again".
Preserving is a labour of love but with a bit of effort now, you can revisit our wonderful summer by opening a jar. Get into pantry mode and try some of these recipes.
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Mar 11, 2013 at 6:28 am #1300311
Henry ThomasBPL Member
What have to people found to be the all purpose knife for UL backpacking?Mar 11, 2013 at 6:41 am #1964179
Andrew USpectator
@anarkhosLocale: Colorado, Wyoming
It depends on what the goals of your trip are, but for the most part I think the main consensus is a Victorinox Swiss Army Classic, and that's mostly for the scissors. Small blade for food prep is all you really need if thru hiking. Some get by with just a razor blade or small pair of mini-scissors, though I prefer something a little more robust for a marginal weight gain. With an item this small, functionality should trump weight.
For trips where I intend on making fires more often I usually take a Mora, they are the best valued fixed blade knife on the market, IMO. Pretty cheap and very durable.Mar 11, 2013 at 6:56 am #1964182
Brad RogersBPL Member
@mocs123Locale: Southeast Tennessee
Spiderco LadybugMar 11, 2013 at 7:15 am #1964188
IanBPL Member
I carry this knife every day. For trail hiking it's fine. I also like the Leatherman Squirt.
I have several other knives of a variety of sizes but most of them are overkill for trail hiking.Mar 11, 2013 at 7:32 am #1964194
Elijah ZiemannMember
It all depends on your capability/weight ratio. If you want a light knife for minor utilities, I'd say the Victorinox Cadet. If you need something for food prep, maybe some wittling for making tent stakes out of sticks in camp, a Spyderco Junior. If you want a knife for food prep, utilities, making kindling, or batoning branches from trees, or if you just prefer a fixed blade, I'd recommend a Kershaw Skyline FB or a Mora of some sort. If you want a knife with the capability to baton through 6" wide logs, the lightest I could find is the Buck Hoodlum. Hope this helps.Mar 11, 2013 at 7:40 am #1964198
Jan SMember
Have used it for years and it's awesome. Not up to forest stuff though if you want to prepare fires. But a great knife if you want to actually cook (as in chop vegetables, meat, put butter on bread). Light enough too.
http://www.opinel-usa.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Opinel-knives-No-7-carbon-steel-folding-knifeMar 11, 2013 at 10:27 am #1964251
michael leviMember
@m-lLocale: W-Never Eat Soggy (W)affles
Ladybug H1, .6 ouncesMar 11, 2013 at 10:38 am #1964253
John GBPL Member
@johng10Locale: Mid-Atlantic via Upstate NY
I've split a lot of 1-1.5" thick sticks into 4-8 pieces to make dry kindling with a standard 3.5" Victorinox swiss army knife. It weighs 3 oz and is plenty strong.
The blade works good for buttering bread, cutting noodles so they are easier to eat with a spork, slicing up apples to eat with peanut butter, etc.
The saw is useful if you are planning to cook over fires regularly, since you can cut wrist sized sticks for fuel into fire sized lengths without hurting your foot by stomping on them.
I also like the scissors on the 3.5" knife better than the tiny scissors on the 1.5" knife and much better than the scissors on my leatherman micra. (which are too thick for trimming skin flaps / old blisters).
My Opinel #6 weighs 1 oz, and has a better tip shape for buttering bread or cutting against a bowl bottom – but is not strong enough for splitting wood on a frequent basis, and gets very hard to open after I wash food off the blade since the joint swells (I soaked out in oil, but it didn't make much difference).
I also like how the stainless Opinel blades don't get tarnish onto my food. The high carbon blade does stay sharp a little longer though.Mar 11, 2013 at 11:19 am #1964287
David ThomasBPL Member
@davidinkenaiLocale: North Woods. Far North.
SAK Classic. And in 6 weeks, they'll be legal for carry on.
It's nice when UL overlaps with EDC. I've got 3 more flights today with a 4-hour layover in Anchorage so there's a thermarest in my bag. Much more comfortable than a departure lounge chair.Mar 11, 2013 at 11:24 am #1964289
Bob GrossMember
@b-g-2-2Locale: Silicon Valley
"SAK Classic. And in 6 weeks, they'll be legal for carry on."
That's what Ted Stevens thought, also. Where did that get him on his last flight?
–B.G.–Mar 11, 2013 at 11:29 am #1964293
Jan SMember
"and gets very hard to open after I wash food off the blade since the joint swells"
Yeah, they tend to do that. I've been told by someone who lived in France for some time, that you grab them at the metal ring, blade downwards and just knock the end on something hard. That drives the blade out. Because every time you do that a bit of wood is shaved off after a while you can soak the knife for days and it won't swell enough anymore to lock the blade – which also means it tends to open extremely easy.Mar 11, 2013 at 12:39 pm #1964329
Mike RMember
@redpointLocale: British Columbia
A knife is the most valuable tool you can bring into the backcountry, with ingenuity and knowledge, it'll get you through some tough times.
A multi-tool would offer the most utility, but I often find that I don't really need all the tools one affords unless I'm riding a bike or using backcountry skis where adjustments and repairs are frequent.
I would recommend using a Spyderco "Paramilitary 2" or its larger brother the "Military". It's a stout, lightweight knife with a strong lock and high-end blade steel [CPM S35VN]. It'll cut your salami and also carry you through a survival situation. Most little SAKs are fine for food prep, but not much more, plus only the larger ones [which are heavier anyway] have locking blades and they're pretty weak locks. The Paramilitary 2 is scalpel-sharp straight out of the box.
The Paramilitary 2 weighs-in at 3.75 oz/ 106g. That's extremely light for a knife of this quality and capability. Spyderco also has one of the best warranties in the business.Mar 11, 2013 at 1:40 pm #1964347
David ThomasBPL Member
@davidinkenaiLocale: North Woods. Far North.
Bob: Ted Stevens survived one more airplane crash than I have. But also (much later) one less than he needed to.Mar 11, 2013 at 1:50 pm #1964353
Bob GrossMember
@b-g-2-2Locale: Silicon Valley
David: It only takes one.
They ought to name an airport after him or something.
–B.G.–Mar 11, 2013 at 1:55 pm #1964356
Mike MBPL Member
@mtwardenLocale: Montana
the Classic w/ scissors and tweezers is a pretty good choice, if you like a little more knife and can get by w/o the other bits the Spyderco Ladybug is relatively sturdy for such a small knife, it comes w/ a pretty good factory edge as well
if you want an even more robust knife, something that will hold up to a pretty good shellacking- the ESEE Izula @ 2.0 oz is pretty tough to beat- afaik they also have the best warranty of any production knifeMar 11, 2013 at 3:00 pm #1964380
BER —BPL Member
@berLocale: Wisconsin
Though more costly, I am a big fan of the Bark River Ultralight Bushcrafter at 2.7oz. I find it to have a more comfortable handle than the Izula and a bit longer blade. And like ESEE, you can't beat the BRK warranty.Mar 11, 2013 at 3:10 pm #1964384
James WaltonBPL Member
@backcountryasmLocale: south
I second the motion for the EESE Izula 2.0. For me the knife is a bit more than just something to cut open a salami bag with. This knife holds an edge, you can baton for firewood with ease, cut that bag of salami, make tent pegs with it (I left a peg in the ground once when leaving camp-but I am sure no one here has done that except for me!), I can make snares, Ive skinned deer with this little knife, etc….. The knife I carry is a tool for not only the daily miniscule chores but also to handle the things I did not know I would encounter. Be prepared.Mar 11, 2013 at 5:07 pm #1964429
Mike RMember
@redpointLocale: British Columbia
I was going to recommend this knife too. It's a stout little fixed blade with no potential points of weakness. It'll do everything you need it to do and perform well in an emergency situation too.Mar 11, 2013 at 6:10 pm #1964460
Stephen BarberBPL Member
@grampaLocale: SoCal
I'm with BER on this one – Bark River makes very nice knives, and the Ultralight Bushcraft is an excellent, lightweight knife. They also make several small neck knives, also light weight. But frankly, my favorite light Barkie is the Liten Bror, a small "bushcraft" knife a bit larger (and heavier) than the Ultralight. The steel used in all three of these knives is CPM 3V, which will keep an excellent edge through many miles of regular use.Mar 11, 2013 at 7:07 pm #1964482
Dale WambaughBPL Member
@dwambaughLocale: Pacific Northwest
Knives have so many features and functions, as well as social connotations and there are many that are useful on the trail. It's much like choosing a pack or other gear and you want it to work for trip in mind, with cost, quality, weight and function all adding up to a choice. Do have some sort of serviceable cutting tool with you when leave the pavement; something like a single edge razor blade doesn't cut it for me ;)
What isn't needed is some massive Rambo chopper. You want a knife that can be used to prepare food, trim line or clean a trout. In an emergency, a knife can help to get to dry wood and make fuzz sticks and tinder to start a fire. You can use a small saw for starting cuts to snap off a branch or cut small branches for shelter-making. Batoning can be done with a fixed blade to split wood for fire making. I don't think much of batoning with smaller knives as a general practice. Bigger cutting jobs are better accomplished with a folding saw rather than a large knife, or a small ax or hatchet.
My personal leaning is a 3"-3/5" folding knife with a stout rust-resistant blade, a good locking system and a pocket clip. I carry a simple little Benchmade Mini Pika every day and I would feel just fine hiking with it. I do normally take a Benchmade Griptilian with a plain edge (non-serrated) blade.
Other knives I own and have used:
Moras. I currently have a Mora Robust (which I wrote up at http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=65919). I have used other Moras and prefer something with a slip resistant handle, which is where the more traditional wooden-handled Moras are weak, IMHO. I wish they made the Robust in stainless. The 4" blade is as much knife as I can imagine carrying. The Mora Craftline and Companion knives are similar and very useful. Moras are really inexpensive, simple and light for fixed blade knives. They will take an amazing amount of abuse. You can baton with one if you had to and the blade profile is great for food prep, repairs and bushcraft style woodworking. If you want a fixed blade, spend $15 on a Mora and don't look back.
Victorinox Little Vickie. This is really a paring knife with a razor sharp 3.5" serrated stainless blade and a simple slip sheath. They are tough enough that commercial fisherman use them for repairing nets, so they will do gear repairs with no issues. If you want a food prep and fishing knife, this is it. The design is far easier to keep clean and safe around food. They are inexpensive (~$10) and weigh one ounce total. There are a number of other paring knives with slip sheaths, that fit the same niche as the Little Vickie, like KAI, and Kuhn Rikon.
Opinel. I have owned a couple over the years. I have relegated them to a "picnic" knife for car trips and camping. My major falling out is having the wooden handle swell from moisture. and becoming near impossible to open. Many swear by them. They are like a folding Mora in some regards– inexpensive, dead simple and perfectly useable cutting qualities. There have been some problems with the US distributor for Opinel and the factory lately, making them a little harder to find.
Swiss Army knives. I prefer the 111m frame models with locking blades and/or a saw. I'd love to see a 111mm frame Victorinox with a one-hand opening blade, a saw, scissors, and an awl. I carry a Victorinox Classic everyday and there's one on the "survival keychain" that I carry in my pants pocket when hiking. I like the Farmer and Hiker models for smaller non-locking versions. I have a Wenger Handyman that has the tools I really like: blade, saw, scissors and awl. The Victorinox Fieldmaster and Huntsman are about as multi-layer as I would want to carry on the trail.Mar 11, 2013 at 8:05 pm #1964506
Justin BakerBPL Member
@justin_bakerLocale: Santa Rosa, CA
My blind horse tiger knapp is my most used knife. It's light and it can stand some heavy work. I wear it as a neck knife with a firesteel at all times in case I ever get separated from my pack.
For serious wood work, I like the old hickory butchers knives. 7 inches and 6 oz. It's a lot of blade for the weight. Paired with a saw and you have a great set up for winter fire making and hot tenting. It's large enough that you can limb small fallen trees with it to make them more manageable. It also works as a light machete if you need to clear out some plants to make camp.
Mar 11, 2013 at 9:25 pm #1964560
Daniel FishMember
@danielfishfamilypdx-comLocale: PDX
…Mar 11, 2013 at 11:16 pm #1964604
Doug SmithBPL Member
@jedi5150Locale: Central CA
I know it's probably insane overkill for backpacking, but I can't help loving the looks of the Bark River "Bravo 1" knife. It is the fieldcraft knife allegedly chosen by survival instructors with Marine Force Recon. Contrary to most military "rambo" knives, the Bravo 1 is quite small, and light. It's not some big K-bar fighting knife, it's designed for fieldcraft. Besides they are just plain gorgeous to look at. I'm trying hard to convince myself I don't need one before my upcoming trip. lol
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In his En resa til Norra America (1753–1761; English translation Travels into North America, 1770), the Swedish-Finnish naturalist Peter Kalm had noted that cattle in Philadelphia were stunted. But Robert Byrd (The Natural History of Virginia, or the Newly Discovered Eden, 1737) had seen a reason: The natural pasture was so lush that farmers left their livestock outdoors through the winter, where they became thin, "which does not happen if they are given hay, and kept in stables."
Byrd also extolled the American Indians as a strong and cultured people. This opinion wasn't new; Robert Beverley had recorded similar observations decades earlier. If Buffon had read contemporary descriptions of North America, he would have known that the lack of hair in American Indians was cosmetic. As early as 1702, Beverley (History and Present State of Virginia) wrote, "The Men wear their Hair cut after several fanciful Fashions, sometimes greas'd, and sometimes painted. The Great Men, or better sort, preserve a long Lock behind for distinction. They pull their Beards up by the roots with a Muscleshell; and both Men and Women do the same by the other parts of their Body for Cleanliness sake."
Given these contrary reports, why was the leading natural scientist of Europe so zealous in arguing for American degeneracy? One answer was that Buffon believed the anecdotal evidence more than the written records. He was also blinkered by preconceived notions, thinking that America was cold because of winds blowing off the Atlantic Ocean. Other possible explanations of the cold and damp were that the biblical Great Flood had retreated later from the New World than the Old, or that the New World had more recently emerged from the ocean. Buffon also developed the more sophisticated idea that the low population density of humans in the Americas meant that they had had less opportunity to improve the ecology and thereby ameliorate the climate.
Yet another answer was philosophical. Buffon opposed Jean-Jacques Rousseau's notion of the "noble savage" and argued that the indigenous American people did not represent humans in a state of primeval grace. Instead, like the animals and plants, they had migrated from the Old World and deteriorated.
There was also a political reason to denigrate the Americas. Although much of the New World had been founded on colonialism and slavery, North America threatened to throw off these fetters. With huge natural resources, strong population growth and increasing affluence, the former colonies were rapidly evolving to become a beacon of new democracy. This egalitarianism was anathema to European aristocrats—a group that included most natural scientists of the time. The new United States was a populist place that neither needed nor tolerated aristocracy. The zeal with which Buffon's opinions were repeated may be a sign of how serious a threat the European oligarchy perceived the Americans to be. Among the authors who spread Buffon's tripe was the British historian William Robertson, whose History of America (1777) was reprinted, edition after popular edition, for another 40 years—an interval in which thousands of his countrymen cheerfully departed for America.
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Teachers Union, Prop 98, and an Emergency
Original post made by Start Afresh, Country Fair, on May 5, 2011
Now CTA has called a "CA State of Emergency" (Web Link) for May 9-13 and plans a series of state-wide union actions including a week-long occupation of the state capitol.
Making this "An Emergency for Thee, but not for Me". Pleasanton's own teacher's union president made a call for this week of action while at the same time inking an agreement with PUSD that increases all teachers' salaries by 2.7% for next year.
As we see with the events rolling out, CTA (Web Link and Web Link) is funding teacher release time and transportation for teachers to go to Sacramento.
So let's see how this works. Taxpayers fund school districts. School Districts pay salaries to teachers. Teachers pay mandatory dues to unions. Those unions pay a portion of dues to the CTA. And CTA is using our taxpayer money to fund a week-long occupation of our state capitol.
Andrew Klavan has a great video which explains this well (Web Link).
To all teachers in California. Have a great week protesting.
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a resident of Country Fair
on May 5, 2011 at 7:38 pm
And here's the video of Trevor's call to action.
Web Link
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 5, 2011 at 8:58 pm
On one hand you claim that California taxpayers pay for all of public education in this state, then you blame CTA for requiring the state to actually pay the amounts promised to run the schools- so really wondering what is wrong with that?
You want the "credit" for paying for public ed, yet not willing to follow through with that deal I see, just say you are. In actuality- your tax money hasn't been funding Ca. schools the MINIMUM guaranteed since 1995. And this number keeps falling. Prop. 98 was just a farce and you are actually not paying, actually the reduction of your tax money paying for public ed has been reduced by $20 billion in just the last 3 years.
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Watch out PPD and Fire Dept. Start Afresh will be out for you next, mark my word!
a resident of Jensen Tract
on May 5, 2011 at 10:00 pm
I can't believe that they would have at a public school board meeting a resolution on the agenda to support "Teachers Union Action Week"!!!!
What is this, a public building for a school board meeting or a union hall? Who in the world put this on the agenda?
Or could it possibly be the Alameda County Democratic Central Committee meeting?
This items should be removed from the agenda! Unbelievable!
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 6, 2011 at 1:18 am
This action by the PUSD is appalling. A simple google search brings up horrific facts about the CTA USING OUR CHILDREN to demonize the taxpayer - which US PARENTS AND eventually our own children! Web Link
CTA, Ahmadi and the school board, you've got another thing coming if you think for a SECOND you and your liberal unions will bring in this kind of resolution without backlash from our community!
WE WILL NOT ALLOW OUR KIDS TO BE YOUR PAWNS! What your unions pulled in WI is INEXCUSABLE! Web Link
CTA LEAVE YOUR FILTHY SOCIALIST TENDENCIES AT THE DOOR! As for PUSD putting a resolution on the agenda to support "Teachers Union Action Week" you haven't seen nothin yet. Ahmadi you can guarantee yourself Pleasanton parents next action... it's called RECALL THIS BOARD AND FIRE AHMADI NOW!
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on May 6, 2011 at 1:21 am
Whats with the corrupt union guys language. Is he from Austria or something. He sounds like Rosa Lucksinberg. And I like the way they say "Buy American" when they'vegotta beef. We need to get rid of the unions. They trash everything that is good about this coutry. They started with the communists and then the Kennedy brothers opened the door. Count me as PRO--Education and ANTi-----UNION
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 6, 2011 at 10:09 am
Surely such a resolution to support teachers leaving our children would be yanked from the agenda. I know the board is not bright on spending (or NOT), on expensive, worthless consultants, but would they so blatently flip-off the community, by supporting unions over our children.
a resident of Country Fair
on May 9, 2011 at 8:13 pm
The "Emergency for Thee, but not for Me" protests have started.
Cindy Sheehan and the PEACE AND FREEDOM PARTY have joined forces with the teachers union. Nice.
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a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on May 9, 2011 at 9:04 pm
Stacey is a registered user.
"The budget "fixes" proposed will come down on the backs of the most vulnerable, while continuing to provide corporate welfare, funds and use of California National Guard in wars of aggression, and a regressive tax structure."
A flat rate parcel tax is regressive.
a resident of Country Fair
on May 9, 2011 at 9:15 pm
Occupy Sacramento! Wonderful!
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a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 9, 2011 at 9:21 pm
Hey Stacey,
No one is talking about parcel taxes. We need to increase income taxes. We should also close the business loophole in prop 13.
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on May 9, 2011 at 10:28 pm
Stacey is a registered user.
Let's not support regressive taxation in any form. There's no reason why a parcel tax has to be regressive.
a resident of Bridle Creek
on May 10, 2011 at 6:33 am
Stacey -
You should say "regressive" a few more times. Makes you sound really smart.
a resident of Country Fair
on May 10, 2011 at 8:07 am
The teachers union's true intentions for this week.....
"We're not just here to lobby. We're here to raise some hell," Betty Olson-Jones, president of the Oakland Education Association, said as the arrests began.
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a resident of Country Fair
on May 10, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Moveon.org is getting in on the action (Web Link) reporting on their AmericanDream website.
I like that a CA teacher can't spell 'furlow', and CTA is quoted as saying "Education activists have started gathering in the Capitol Rotunda, chanting 'Bail Out Schools!'". Cool. Just like CTA and teacher unions across the county complained about banks and large corporation bail-outs. After ARRA and Ed Jobs Acts that funneled $10+ billion into education across the country.........they just want more. More......More........More.....More......
a resident of Civic Square
on May 10, 2011 at 4:09 pm
"I like that a CA teacher can't spell 'furlow', and CTA is quoted as saying "Education activists have started gathering in the Capitol Rotunda, chanting 'Bail Out Schools!'"."
There's Start Afresh always trying to tear people down. Can't we have a civil conversation that talks about gutting our unsustainable educational system without the name calling and tearing people down? Why do people get so upset anyway about having their salaries and pensions cut? Why do people get so upset about their kids' classroom sizes being expanded from 20 to 30? Can't we be clinical and just talk about the numbers? It's only math.
a resident of Downtown
on May 10, 2011 at 4:27 pm
I think it is amazing that people cannot see what is coming to this state. Every other state has taken dramatic steps to cut costs and reduce liabilities and we have sat and really done very little and we have a 26 billion dollar deficit. People with money and businesses just keep leaving this state because of high taxes and we just do not get it. The house is beginning to come down and now the rats are beginning to turn on each other.
a resident of Country Fair
on May 10, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Sensitive - Is there a nice way to point out the hypocrisy of the protesters?
a resident of Downtown
on May 10, 2011 at 5:27 pm
1. Any corporation that sends jobs overseas will need to pay a higher tax rate to cover for the cost of unemployment.
2. The US government will be required to purchase Made In America items. That is not saying the company must be American, but the products need to be made here providing Jobs.
3. Illegal immigrants must leave or be deported. The country they are from will have to pay for their deportation or the sum of the cost will be deducted from the amount of aid that we give them.
4. All companies that hire illegal immigrants will be fined the amount to keep someone on unemployment for 1 year per violation.
5. Children must have at least one parent that is a citizen to receive citizenship. There will be no more anchor babies.
6. If you are on welfare, then the government reserves the right to put you to work.
7. Inmates can be used to work in the fields where we are told that the Americans will not work. The will be paid by the farmers at a rate of 2.00 per hour. Half of that will go back to the prison so they can pay their own way. 1.00 will be kept by the inmate. That is double what they are paid for work now and less that the farmers currently pay allowing for a lower food cost.
8. People on welfare will be drug tested. If you come up positive for drug use, then you will not get the welfare.
9. All government employees and teachers will need to take a 10% decrease in pay. Most companies did this why should the government be any different.
10. All cost having to do with the incarceration of an illegal will be deducted from the amount of aid we are giving the country they are from. Why should we continue to help your country when the people are coming here.
11. All laws passed by lawmakers will pertain to them as well. If you want to keep healthcare then that is what you will get as well.
12. Stop NAFTA
a resident of Civic Square
on May 10, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Dear Start Afresh,
You tell me "Sensitive - Is there a nice way to point out the hypocrisy of the protesters?" Why call them names? One of the reasons I never ever read or contribute to this post is because of the name callers. Start Afresh is just trying to razzle-dazzle us by calling teachers hypocrites. That's not nice. I'm fair and balanced. Start Afresh should not be calling teachers hypocrites even if they are lazybones. But I don't think the lazybones teachers should be getting all bent out of shape and attacking everyone just because people want to take away their wages and benefits. Can't we all just get along without screaming and criticizing each other?
a resident of Country Fair
on May 11, 2011 at 4:01 pm
To 'Sensitive' - Did I call anyone a name? Or just connect the dots, quote from the media and point out hypocrisy.
As for "screaming and criticizing" - did you look at all the chanting and political attacks the teachers and their union leaders have been doing all week?
a resident of Country Fair
on May 13, 2011 at 1:10 pm
California Teachers Association (CTA union) President is arrested at the state capitol. (Web Link) and (Web Link)
This past Tuesday, PUSD school board passed a resolution supporting the CTA union's 'week of action'.
PUSD has aligned itself (to anyone's surpise?) with union agitation, waste of taxpayer money, and civil disobedience.
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Dialogue: Gus Van Sant with Scott Macaulay
- Retrospective: February 12–28, 2003
- Regional Premiere: Gerry
What makes a film director an artist? The two terms, though allied, are not synonymous. There are directors who aren't much more than channelers of audience taste, and then there are the auteurs, whose films are said to contain common themes, stylistic traits, and choices of subject matter.
But to work as an artist while working in film means something subtly different. The distinction is a meaningful one because it points to the fact that the apparatus of contemporary filmmaking—the technical complexities, imbalance of power, labor requirements, financial risks, etc.—is tremendously resistant to the artist's hand. The writer can put his or her words directly onto the page; the filmmaker has to spend years overseeing the construction of the factory that produces the paper.
These thoughts come to mind when surveying the films of Gus Van Sant. As auteur theorists would note, his movies display common themes (the creation of alternative families, personal journeys, a belief in art and art-making); stylistic traits (a blending of realism with subjective points of view and fantasy, gently inflected absurdist humor); and choices of subject matter (friendship, mentor-student relationships, lives lived outside of the mainstream). But what is less remarked upon is Van Sant's extraordinary—and, yes, artistic—skill at transforming the unwieldy way of making films in the 21st century into its own expressive canvas. As he has developed his career, Van Sant has realized the extent to which today's film storytelling is shaped by larger forces. "For me, the film [narrative] process is based on industry," he has said. "One of the things that was attributed to D.W. Griffith, which I think was done by a group of people, was a sort of industrialization of cinema—allowing cinema to fit into the industrial model. And either you perfect the model, or you figure out ways to work outside the model, to subvert it or change it or deconstruct it."
Subvert it, change it, deconstruct it—that's what Van Sant has done to the Hollywood way of making movies. Arriving at film through photography and advertising and after studying painting at the Rhode Island School of Design, he has consistently challenged the subject matter, thematic preoccupations, and structures of Hollywood cinema. In Mala Noche, his first film, Van Sant took a semiautobiographical novel by a local Portland writer, Walt Curtis, and made a delicate and moving poem. With Drugstore Cowboy, he furthered his technique, working with stars while expanding his cinematic vocabulary. In the films that followed, he has experimented with the form of film storytelling, whether through second-act forays into Shakespeare (My Own Private Idaho), channel-switching through time and points of view (To Die For), or questioning the logic of the Hollywood remake by rigorously subjecting it to the conceptual art strategy of appropriation (Psycho). Amidst it all, though, Van Sant has not lost sight of the pleasures of character and performance. In the two films in which he has most consciously worked within the "studio model," Good Will Hunting and Finding Forrester, he found the grace notes that allowed these classic Hollywood tales to ring fresh and true.
While other American filmmakers have been influenced by European directors, few understand that the power of their films derives from an alternative way of making movies. With his latest film, Gerry, a hypnotic and transcendent tale of friendship and mortality, Van Sant was inspired by Belgian-French filmmaker Chantal Akerman and Hungarian Bela Tarr. To create his own version of the "long-take" cinema both practice, he did a 180 from Finding Forrester, obtaining German financing, stripping his crew down, working improvisationally, editing the film himself—in short, reshaping the filmmaking apparatus in order to create a new kind of "Gus Van Sant movie." We may not realize it when we watch them, but it's Van Sant's willingness to extend his creativity through all aspects of filmmaking—to not be trapped within one particular model or method of working—that makes him such a restlessly creative and continually vital force within American cinema.
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The Top 5 Wide Receivers In The NFL
As NFL offenses move more and more towards a pass-first mentality, the wide receiver position has never been more important. The rules changes that have been implemented in recent years make it easier than ever for receivers to have success out there on the football field. There are plenty of guys who put up numbers, but who are the very best?
According to BOLTHYPE, the following five players are the best wide receivers in the NFL today (Updated 02/08/2010)
01. Larry Fitzgerald
Larry Fitzgerald has been, for some time now, a very, very good player. But it was his dominant performance in the playoffs two years ago, combined with his remarkable consistency since entering the league has allowed him to steadily ascended to his throne as the king of receivers in the NFL. Fitzgerald is, for all intents and purposes, unstoppable. He combines excellent body control and leaping ability with strong and reliable hands, allowing him to win most of his battles when the ball is in the air. A fantastic player who has carved out an excellent career in the NFL so far.
02. Andre Johnson
Andre Johnson, much like Larry Fitzgerald, has flown under the radar for most of his career. He's piled up yards and touchdowns but hasn't gotten much national exposure playing for a traditionally non-playoff franchise. That's beginning to change; you hear cornerbacks around the league talk about Johnson as one of the most difficult guys to cover, and one of the reasons why is his tremendous deep-speed. Johnson is a physical mismatch who can run by guys and strong-arm the ball when it's in the air. He's been the Texans' offense for some time, and that doesn't figure to change anytime soon.
03. Brandon Marshall
Marshall is in the news often, but it's not always for his on-field play. Disgruntled with the Broncos and possibly a malcontent in the locker room, Marshall has also had his fair share of off-the-field issues. As a player, however, Marshall is quickly becoming one of the most dangerous wide receivers in the game. Charger fans know first-hand how dominant Marshall can be; in a 2008 Week 2 match-up with the Bolts, Marshall caught 18 balls, setting a Broncos record for most catches in a single game. Physical and tough after the catch, Marshall welcomes contact and hits defenders as hard as they hit him. If Marshall can stay out of legal trouble and not draw the commissioner's wrath, Marshall could go down as one of the game's all-time greats.
04. Vincent Jackson
You'll be hard-pressed to find an elite receiver who defies the 'diva' stereotype more so than Vincent Jackson. VJ is one of the hardest-working players on the San Diego Chargers and that hard-work has certainly paid off. Coming into the league, Jackson was viewed as a project with sky-high potential. Flash forward to today, and Jackson has emerged as one of the league best young receivers and one of the best Charger wide outs in recent memory. Averaging 17.2 Yards per catch thus far in his career, Vincent Jackson has become one of the game's best deep threats. In addition to his ability to catch the ball, Jackson is also a willing and able blocker. He's the total package.
05. Reggie Wayne
It would be difficult to imagine the Colts winning so many games over that last decade without having a guy like Reggie Wayne on their roster. Wayne isn't the biggest guy, nor the fastest, but he is remarkably consistent, has tremendous hands, and excels at route running. Wayne has all the abilities you look for in a top-flight receiver. Making all 16 starts for seven consecutive years, Wayne produces with machine-like efficiency. He displays tremendous football intelligence and shares an uncanny on-field connection with QB Peyton Manning. In many ways, Reggie Wayne is the catalysis for what the Colts do offensively, and his presence on the field opens things up for his teammates.
Agree or disagree with the five players listed above? Use the comment section below and give us your top 5!
February 8, 2010at 1:15 PM Posted by Rob Zepeda
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This is a bit high for VJ. I think you'd have to put Welker and Calvin Johnson above him, plus possibly Moss, Colston, Jennings, Sidney Rice
VJ is just fine right where he is on that list
Hmmm, it's tough to compare. Do you mean the top 5 wide receivers this LAST season, this month, in the flower of their "prime" only; or are you also comparing relatively recent greats who are now in decline but still playing (T.O., Steve Smith, Hines Ward, etc.)? For those just now enjoying "hitting their stride" like Vincent Jackson, one or two monster years doesn't necessarily make for a monster career..., yet; because you can't average in the "declining" seasons still to come.
To my eye, the only undisputed pick in your top five so far is Larry Fitzgerald. He is awesome in every aspect of the game he plays. And although I'm thrilled with our Bolt Jackson's average yards per catch and willingness to block, he is borderline on this list. VJ (along with Brandon Marshall) seems to have "mental stability" issues that just worry me, even on the football field. I mean, if a player can't even reliably DRIVE himself to a home championship game, home after drinking (when free taxi service is always available), or refrain from stupid, needless penalties on the gridiron away from the play; can you actually and realistically take him seriously as a candidate for being a "Top Five" elite professional? Sorry, I don't think so.
I think this list needs further tweaking.
Go BOLTS!!!
I would put VJ @ #2 on the list, and #1 would be Simeon Rice. I'd round out my top 5 with Welker, Austin and Moss. Meachem, Wallace and Colston all get honorable mentions.
You'd put Simeon Rice above all those guys even though he's only had one good season? doesn't seem like he's proved himself enough to be mentioned in the top 5. I'd have to bump VJ for Wes welker at this point in their career just because of the consistent 100 catch seasons. I'd also have to rank Johnson above Fitzgerald because he does more on an offense with a LOT less. Johnson was the only threat on that offense for a long time and from then until now he's still put up ridiculous numbers with double teams and for a long while without even having a decent QB. Fitzgerald has always had Boldin on the other side and had his best seasons with Kurt Warner throwing him the ball. Here's my top 5...
1)Andre Johnson
2)Larry Fitzgerald
3)Reggie Wayne
4)Wes Welker
5)Brandon Marshall
Honorable mention: Vincent Jackson, Steve Smith(Car), Miles Austin.
- Rob Zepeda said... Feb 10, 2010, 10:10:00 AM
I'm pretty sure you guys mean SIDNEY RICE right? And although I respect what Wes Welker does, I can't include him in the top five when I feel his teammate Randy Moss is better. I really tried to avoid one-year-wonder type guys, so thats why Miles Austin and Robert Meachem aren't on this list. I don't think either player is dominant like these five have been.
i thought simeon rice was a retired defensive end...somewhat clueless...
Rob - How does your list rate in the yards-after-catch (yac) catagory?
And I'd also like to know how your compare just two against each other, Randy Moss and Wes Welker? You've already said you think Moss is better, but I'm curious how you came to make that rating? Just asking.
Go BOLTS!
- Rob Zepeda said... Feb 10, 2010, 5:09:00 PM
I think Welker is certainly in the top 10 mix, but not top 5. As the slot receiver, he doesn't get matched-up with a defenses' best corner and doesn't have to contend with safety help over the top. He is a dynamic threat who can churn up the YAC, no doubt, but much of his success is predicated on the Randy Moss' ability to free him up. In the list above, each of those guys have been productive for consecutive years and are clearly the go-to options on their team. A defense knows they must account for those players and while they may try and stop them, those guys above are still able to make plays facing double teams.
Welker is top 10, but not top 5 in my mind.
lol...yes, definitely meant Sidney Rice. I'm sorry...my hands have a mind of their own sometimes, and old habits die hard. Anyways, watching his play is more impressive than any of the other guys on anyone's list. His stats don't speak for themselves. He's far more valuable than any of the numbers suggest. VJ is #2 because he has so much value away from the ball.
In contrast, Andre Johnson isn't as valuable as HIS stats say he is. Catching 59% of the passes intended for you is NOT that impressive. Compared to Welker's 76%, Johnson starts to seem a little overrated in my book. And I'd be more likely to refer to Marshall as a cancer than an asset.
I can't argue against Fitzgerald's inclusion on your list, nor Wayne. They are respectable picks...great receivers.
Wayne is a "system" guy who was shown to be not as great as some think by a mediocre Saint's defense. Don't get me wrong he is still very good! But definitely not top 5 in my book.
all of these receivers are the same kind of player. kinda tall and strong guys with good hands.
like when you talk of welker as "not top 5" you kinda miss the point. what i want to say is that you cant really compare a guy like fitzgerald to welker.
but i know for sure that VJ and M80 are among the best deep ball receivers in the league.
- Ann said... May 5, 2010, 6:40:00 PM
I think they put larry fitzgerald in the right place he is a very good WR almost can catch whatever ball is throne to him a very good player.
larry is the best ever not just because I'm a cards fan but it is gust how he players the game
larry is the best!!!
swap fits with johnson and jackson with ochocinco
Wat Da Fuck GO LOOK At DRA NUmBERS AND TELL ME WHO da best Is AN DAT DAM BOMB JACKSON SHould NOT B ON DA LIst WAT About CHad,SMith,jennings,Owens,MOss DO DIS DAM list over
First off how can u compare johnson catching career 59% of the passes thrown to him vs welker who had 79%. Look at Welkers quarterback! Look who was Johnsons end of discussion........ While i admit i am biased... where is Calvin Johnson on this list.... HE is virtually unguardable... 6'5 with 4.3 speed and can jump out the stadium..... Like the other johnson he suffers from poor quarterback play
an one other thing im appalled that VJ made the list..... Dont get me wrong he's a good receiver but to be in the top 5, come on people.... There are monstrous receivers in the league and u pick this guy... I know he's a little old but listen to the corners...... Where is Randy Moss? Corners in the NFL constantly admits he's a problem.... Practically the only guy Nnamdi Asamougha can't guard
- john said... Aug 21, 2010, 3:39:00 AM
I would have to go with larry fitzgerld the guy is a beast. kind of reminds me of randy moss when he played with vikings '95 .plus in off season he works out with other players on vikings squad. totally unselfesh and great work ethic about him. like cc (chris carter) back in the day with moss and jake reed. 3 headed monster vikes. peace
- john said... Aug 21, 2010, 3:42:00 AM
I would have to go with larry fitzgerld the guy is a beast. kind of reminds me of randy moss when he played with vikings '95 .plus in off season he works out with other players on vikings squad. totally unselfesh and great work ethic about him. like cc (chris carter) back in the day with moss and jake reed. 3 headed monster vikes. peace
chad ocho cinco should be in this
These are all great recievers but here's my opinion.
1). Reggie Wayne
2). Larry Fitzgerald
3). Randy Moss
4). Vincent Jackson
5). Brandon Marshall
hahaha.... someone needs to learn proper grammer.
man the bad part about it they didnt put moss up there
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The custom Royal Guard with the Jango armor looks pretty cool too!
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