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Addressing Pedestrian and Bike Safety in Embarcadero Underpass
Original post made by Bob Wenzlau, Crescent Park, on Sep 11, 2007
This is a very high traffic area for bikes, cars and people. Given Town & Country's development plans, more hazards are on the way.
Today I witnessed a bike crash on the underpass between three student bikers. It occurred on the ramp near the crosswalk to Palo Alto High by the shopping center. The collision nearly threw one of the riders into the fast moving automobile traffic on Embarcadero. It was very very close. As a regular bike commuter, previously I had observed a similar event when a child scooter rider lost control going down the ramp.
These hazards have been presented to city staff, city council members, the school/bike safety committee, and the former Paly principal. I have presented them across several years. Seeing these hazards lead for several proposals including:
- extending the railing along the side of the ramps.
- improving access and egress routing from the underpasses at the north and east sides
- inviting striping to allow for more organized passing
As a former PTA traffic representative, I felt reasonably qualified in my observations, and seemed to gain some acknowledgment from city planning. When presented to the Mayor, she indicated that perhaps some money from paving Embarcadero could be diverted to this. (Staff did based on recommendations remove the one-way restrictions in the underpass that were implausible, and had been a basis of ticketing several years ago)
Nothing has happened based on these recommendations! Today's incident invited me to try another route of communication--our town forum. I believe this type of situation is a litmus test for the city's commitment to a bicycle / pedestrian friendly city. I have grown cynical after publicizing this hazard, seeing inaction, yet observing numerous photos of bike riding officials. I want our cycling safer in this town to compliment our bike riding pledges.
Perhaps it is time for someone with a different tact to pick up on this hazard, and ask for a modest sum to be spent to improve the pedestrian access through this most traveled corridor. At a minimum, I hope for extension of safety rails along the underpass. For those masters of city politics, please offer any thoughts.
Comments (29)
a resident of Addison School
on Sep 11, 2007 at 8:24 pm
If you have ever walked or biked that path, the sidewalk is shared by bikes and pedestrians, with the bikes to one side, walkers to the other. Unless a bike has a bell, the traffic noise covers the sound of an approaching bike. About 800-1000 kids rushing not to be late for school (plus teachers) enter Paly at Embarcadero - all in about 15-20 minutes. Add to that, lots of commuter traffic, student drivers, parents who don't remember to take turns, people who ignore the keep clear signs, a really odd (I'm being polite) set up for the crosswalk and the entrances and exits from Town and Country. There's not much infrastructure to misuse.
a resident of Community Center
on Sep 11, 2007 at 8:25 pm
Bob, Thank you for your continued support on this measure. I have also tried to get the Paly bicycle committee to take action on this to no avail. I hope this message goes farther than our efforts. I don't know what planet the comment from Logical is on, but apparently, not ours.
Thanks again!
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 11, 2007 at 8:26 pm
Your comments don't help.
This sounds like a serious issue. I have a son in Paly who rides his bike daily, but uses Churchill. This scares me. Only last week I saw an accident between two adult cyclists right outside an elementary school.
We must make the commute routes to school a priority in traffic safety. I am not very familiar with the dangers here as I seldom drive the underpass, but I know that the main entrance/t & c entrances are both places I avoid as much as I can as a driver.
Good luck Bob in your endeavour.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Sep 11, 2007 at 8:37 pm
To clarify one aspect of the hazard. Bikes and pedestrians necessarily share the "sidewalks" on the underpass. The collision that I witnessed occurred on the sidewalk area, not in the roadway. My hoped for improvement is to extend and improve the railing between the roadway and the sidewalk to better protect the pedestrians and cyclists on the sidewalk area. If bikes or pedestrians do collide, the collision ought to be limited to the sidewalk area, and not spill into Embarcadero. We likely have to accept the constraints of the basic infrastructure we have such as the widths of the roadway and shared bike/pedestrian sidewalk. Thanks for the comments.
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 11, 2007 at 8:48 pm
Bob, good for you, thanks for fighting the good fight. Have you emailed the City Councilors directly? Where is a City Councilor who can spend time on this instead of green buildings, FTTH, and campaign spending limits??
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 11, 2007 at 9:18 pm
PA Mom and Bob,
You get my point, and you miss my point. Bicycles need their own infrastructure. PA city council did it for the homer tunnel that only services the PAMF campus (though it has many safety issues). Why won't they do it (and hopefully something better) for the children's bicycle route to Paly? Much more bicycle use there.....
"Share the Road", "Share the Sidewalk", "Share the anything" doesn't work.... Just ask CalTrain how well sharing with motor vehicles has worked, or ask the dead cyclists on Sand Hill Road how well sharing with motor vehicles has worked....
Please don't deny the laws of physics. Train vs car, car loses. Car vs bicycle, bicycle loses. Bicycle vs pedestrian, pedestrian loses.
Our ancestors had the common sense to provide separate infrastructure for motor vehicles and pedestrians when motor vehicles were coming of age.
So, why don't you, as bicycle advocates, lobby for a separate infrastructure now? After all, Palo Alto is a "bicycle friendly" city.....
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 11, 2007 at 9:31 pm
bicycles preceded cars historically. Some of these roads preceded cars. Now the bicyclists then were kind enough to share the roads with those new fangled cars. Learn from your elders.
and yes, you are right most bicyclists are possessed with a youthful spirit, so you might want to give it a try.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Sep 11, 2007 at 9:54 pm
The type of infrastructure you invite is not in the foreseeable budget. We are essentially stuck with the underpass the way it is for the next ten years.
Some simple improvements will help protect the students and others until and if a new underpass would be constructed. I certainly would not discourage a major improvement -- I just don't want it to become the proxy for some of the shorter term "patches" I have invited.
We could improve the safety in the underpass with modest expenditure (less that $50K as a city spends money).
We should challenge ourselves to see if these improvements can be made within next several months, perhaps out of a maintenance budget, or left over capital allocations from the Embarcadero improvements.
Logic may dictate pursuing in parallel a short-term and long-term solution for this area.
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Sep 11, 2007 at 11:08 pm
Perhaps we could take some of the hundreds of billions our mentally challenged government is spending in no-where-land and apply it in helping us with REAL issues...nah, that would establish a bad precedence!
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 11, 2007 at 11:39 pm
Bob and friends --
Here's another tack to consider: bring up the need for bike and pedestrian safety improvements in the public process related to the redevelopment of Town and Country, esp. Trader Joe's. Your point about the access and egress routing from the underpass needing improvement is well taken. But remember that when the plans for the new Trader Joe's go up for approval, increased traffic volume will almost certainly be a major issue.
So why not use this venue to push for some mitigation funding from this new traffic-generating development that could pay for improving the safety of those using the underpass (as well as the new path by the train tracks) to access Town and Country? This is likely to get more action towards your goal than just complaining to the City Council would do.
Last I heard, the Trader Joe's plan will be going before the Architectural Review Board (ARB) soon. Heard through the grapevine that the developers are proposing to run a new driveway right near the pedestrian signal. This would make the current complicated jockeying of cars, bikes and those on foot at peak periods *much* worse at this Embarcadero pinch point.
So first, generate some heat to make sure that the city does _not_ approve any new driveway that would route cars through the area where all the kids cross Embarcadero in the morning. But also urge the ARB to put some teeth in getting the Town and Country management and Trader Joe's to encourage more residents to come to their shopping center by walking or biking.
Two ways to do this would be to do update this 1930's underpass to make it safer for higher volume bike and pedestrian use and to convert the current abandoned wasteland between the bike/ped path by the train tracks so that it's an inviting entrance to this shopping center.
Does anyone know the timetable for the Trader Joe's project approvals?
a resident of South of Midtown
on Sep 12, 2007 at 8:54 am
Look for Leverage has an excellent idea. Speaking to an agenda item nearly always gets attention. Speak to the issue at the Architectural Review Board, then when it goes to the Planning and Transportation Commission and then before the City Council you will make your point. If possible give them a solution to the problem that they can work with.
Unfortunately, this takes time and organization but it is the way that those who want something get it done. Two residents fought for and got the Charleston corridor reduced from four to two lanes by speaking out at every meeting and every public hearing on the issue over a two years period but they got it done. Be persistent.
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 12, 2007 at 11:25 am
Bob, thanks for bringing this to our attention. I wasn't quite aware how bad this is. It's hard for us to understand if we have never ridden a bike through there. We have some sense of the problem.
I do know Palo Alto claims to be a bike-friendly/supportive city and the major supports cycling, and we should improve this transportation sector.
Can some students tell us what they find it to be like riding through there? Have they had close calls?
I have a student cyclist who occasionally rides through there to school. I drive through there and see the obvious bottleneck and terrible extrance/exit to T & Country, BUT I didn't really know the perspective of a student bicyclist or an adult bicyclist OR the day-to-day risks you are describing. If there are real risks in such a high-traffic spot then something must be done about it. The Paly student population is supposed to be rising.
I support action from the city in the way of some sort of improvement really soon. I recommend working towards incremental improvements. If you put together a petition to request the extension of the railing, I will sign it. Perhaps the new Paly principal and Paly PTSA will endorse a direct proposal of that nature and that will help to get action from the city. Surely something can be done. Paly is in session now and the bikers, pedestrians, cars are out there and I'm sure Stanford will be back to school soon, with a commensurate rise in cars streaming through that underpass.
a resident of Greenmeadow
on Sep 12, 2007 at 6:25 pm
Although this may seem like a school issue, it is beyond the school district's boundaries and must be solved by the City. Any project to substantially modify this undercrossing will be VERY expensive. Remember when the City was building the Homer undercrossing and was mercilessly hammered over the cost? Many people said it was unnecessary because the Embarcadero and University underpasses were so close. Obviously, those people never biked through either. The sidewalks are way too narrow for safe cycling, and the outcome that Bob saw was predictable. Extending the railing is putting makeup on a **#$$. People should NOT be riding their bikes on that sidewalk when it is congested. There are other routes to Paly, and there is always the option of walking for a bit. I know it is hard to convince teens in a hurry to take a longer route or walk their bikes, but until someone comes up with $5 million - $10 million to re-do the underpass, that is the safest advice.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Sep 12, 2007 at 8:54 pm
While Donald would hope that there are alternative routes to Paly, the Embarcadero underpass is the only practical route for families that live in much of the Duveneck, Walter Hayes and Addison school districts. If one views the albeit unfortunate orientation of streets like Kingsley and Lincoln -- they all point to Embarcadero at the underpass. Embarcadero feeds not only Paly, but also Stanford and Town & Country. All of us are reasonably encouraged to bike, and and cyclist will take the most expedient route. Neither Churchill nor the Homer underpass will serve this, resulting in 25 to 50% greater travel distance.
Donald asserts the District holds no interest. Whether the District has authority or not over this issue, they have and maintain an interest in safety of our students on their routes to and from school. The District, my own experience attesting to this, will advise on safe routes, and therefore involves itself in off-campus safety. The route I seek improvement of is designated a "safe route" to school. I can assure you that in the event of a traffic accident that involves a student occurs, it will deeply affect our school community whether it is technically in their jurisdiction or not.
A typical and unfortunate feature of Donald's argument is that we much wait for the re-do of the underpass for safety to be improved. I disagree. Any improvement that keeps students from spilling into Embarcadero as a result of a collision could be made safer by a barrier or fence -- it is simple. While it will hurt to crash into a pedestrian or bike on the ramp; the outcome is far better than hitting a car exiting at 45 miles per hour.
While the "Donalds" of this town have largely prevented any modest improvements, I had hoped by raising the the hazard might spur the district and city to action. Lets hope the city and school are listening.
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Sep 13, 2007 at 7:23 am
I have frequently used that underpass, and am also a long boarder. I have seen many boarders fall on that underpass because of huge cracks in the concrete, and have myself been one of those unfortunates. I have also heard stories of boards flying into the auto lanes and nearly hitting cars. I think that for the amount of pedestrian, bike, and board traffic that underpass gets that there should be some more protection for all.
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 13, 2007 at 8:44 am
I can understand Bob's frustration. I know he brought this issue to the attention of school and city staff several times. Everybody in those meetings agreed that the situation was bad and several spot improvements were supposed to happen, including fixing the railing. Somehow that hasn't happened yet. I don't know what it takes to get action on something like this.
a resident of Greenmeadow
on Sep 13, 2007 at 8:57 am
It is illegal to bike there. Paly students should get off and walk through the underpass. Here is the Palo Alto Municipal Code section (Embarcadero is not designated as a bike route):
10.64.130 Riding bicycles on sidewalks.
(a)No person shall ride or operate a bicycle upon any sidewalk in a business district, any sidewalk in or on any pedestrian underpass or overpass, or any sidewalk on the Embarcadero Road Overpass across Bayshore Freeway unless such sidewalk is officially designated as a bicycle route.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Sep 13, 2007 at 9:29 am
While I believe that the city and police have previously resolved that bike traffic is acceptable, for the sake of your argument I will remove bikes from the this response. (The underpass is a designated bike route - hence your citation is irrelevant)
I have, and other posts have testified to, the hazards posed by scooters and skateboards that also use the ramps. They are likely permitted uses, and their protection should be provided for as well. Some protection between the roadway and ramp would benefit the boarders and scooters.
Ultimately, your commentary may be just dismissed as perverse if you then say we ought to try to ban scooters and skateboards. If cars on Embarcadero drove 25 miles per hour, we also would have not issues. Try slowing them down?!
My addictive attention is to cause practical improvements working with the situation we have, and not trying to work with use scenarios that are impractical or unrealistic.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 13, 2007 at 9:36 am
How about this from another angle
I believe there are signs saying "walk your bike" on the approach to the underpass. I know that at Churchill entrance to Paly there are often police ticketing kids on bikes for doing things like riding on the sidewalk, not wearing helmets, etc. My question is why are there no police on Embarcadero doing the same thing to people riding their bikes and not walking them under the underpass. A few tickets would make a huge difference, I am sure.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 13, 2007 at 9:48 am
"he brought this issue to the attention of school and city staff several times. Everybody in those meetings agreed that the situation was bad and several spot improvements were supposed to happen, including fixing the railing."
What if you were to document their admittance that the situation is dangerous and that spot improvements were recommended and/or approved. Send that document to ALL the powers that be, cc it to the local newspapers, and post it here, too. Basically, out them. Do you think that might work?
Aside to Bob - thank you for pushing this issue on behalf of our children.
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 13, 2007 at 3:07 pm
"Neither Churchill nor the Homer underpass will serve this, resulting in 25 to 50% greater travel distance."
I think this statement is in error, see
main entrance
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churchill entrance
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that example is 6% difference.
so I'll offer them up in case their is a parent or kid that would be interested in using an alternate path.
However I believe in what you are trying to do which is keep a small accident in the underpass from spilling onto the roadbed underneath and becoming a fatal accident. Makes sense to me if it can be done by increasing the height of the barrier.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Sep 16, 2007 at 5:48 am
Perhaps it is time to report some of the responses I received outside of this forum. As such, it might represent the "conclusion" part of this posting.
- Some said it is a pathetic choice when as safe route we can only offer a choice between an unsafe pedestrian/bike ramp at Embarcadero or an equally unsafe rail crossing at Churchill. The expect better.
- A school official commented that the high school does not believe that the bike / pedestrian issues off of the campus are within their jurisdiction. Now at least it is stated, and it tracks their painfully low interest in the issue across at least two years.
- One traffic advocate said people with bike and traffic concerns are expected to work through the process, and my concerns about this area are out of step with the improvements the city has made. One must be patient, and await improvements that can be made only across the term of years. If you want to get the improvements, you must invest the time, and compromise your solutions. (As a small business owner, this is a high burden, and I also felt I had done 3 years of this approach to no avail.)
- City staff has indicated that consideration of some of these improvements may be part of mitigation measures for upcoming Town & County improvements, and that in November we will see some presentation possibly at the Architectural Review Board.
- Others indicated that there are likely residual funds left over in some related capital improvements (like Embarcadero paving) -- enough funds to put up a modest protective fence or rail between traffic on Embarcadero and the pedestrians and bikes that use it. The question is how much is left, and how much would a temporary fence cost until the "ultimate" improvement could be made?
- Others advised that these efforts work better if the "students" show up at council, and generate a public event to motivate our officials to direct their attention to this problem. I hesitate to become a behind the scenes player to generate more attention to the issue.
- Yet again others reminded me that they hold other issues with this underpass, and that the underpass is part of a bike/pedetrian route. For example, cars heading toward Stanford exit at high speed from Embarcadero making a blind right turn onto Emerson. In the opposite direction, cars use Emerson to access Embarcadero. Across this part of Emerson we send our students without a cross walk or warning sign -- no basis of establishing a right-of-way.
My recommendation would be that the city undertake a short term "emergency" improvement to put fencing along the Embarcadero ramp. The fencing succeeds by improving safety (including stopping the morning drop-off jaywalkers), and would not impact the more delicate traffic discussions on Embarcadero. Over the course of the next several months, I would encourage planning to look into the broader corridor, and point some spending from "car" related improvements like paving, to some pedestrian / bike improvements. Furthermore, it would be great to see more school "interest" in this from our high school, district and city. The council could ask for staff to report on the topic.
Questions of tactic will remain as to how to elevate the topic, and gain attention. However, I appreciate this forum as a venue to hold a civil discussion, and the give and take felt superior to that gained in the venues that the city establishes to deliberate these topics.
Ultimately, it would be wonderful to find this area as safer, and celebrate how our community can enact simple fixes in the short term, when they are possible and affordable.
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 16, 2007 at 11:43 am
As someone who commutes to Stanford on his bicycle through this underpass pretty much every day (and also a parent of a Paly cyclist), I would think something that might help improve safety (besides asking people - pedestrians and cyclists alike - to use common sense, caution and care) would be to create a second point at which one can leave the sidewalk further away from the crossing - now the curb cut is right at the point where people wait to cross. Striping the underpass to mark bike and pedestrian lanes (per the signs at the entrances) might be useful as well.
Of course, something that would help this area far more would be to clean up the intersection overall by moving the traffic light such that it lines up with the entrances/exits to T&C and Paly. Is there a reason for the strange offset?
a resident of Professorville
on Sep 16, 2007 at 12:01 pm
Bob - thank you for all your thoughtful comments and research. Since we have both a new Superintendent (who appears to be open minded and approachable) and a new principal at Paly, may I suggest you forward your information and thoughts to both of them.
Stephen - If I had to guess about the light placement, it is probably farther down to keep traffic from backing up onto El Camino, although since tons of pedestrians and cars go directly from T&C into the Paly lot anyway, it would make sense to make it a safer crossing.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Sep 16, 2007 at 1:36 pm
Based on a long ago conversation with city staff, I understand that one reason for the odd location of the light on Embarcadero near Town&Country was to provide for car "storage" between El Camino and the pedestrian light. I agree that would seem intuitive to have placed the light at the outlet of Town&Country, and coordinated signal timing to control backup at the light on Embarcadero from El Camino.
The link below is to the presentation given to the City School Traffic Committee in March 2007. It includes a larger punch list, maps, and photos -- and includes your suggestion to allow bikes to pass around the ramp.
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a resident of Crescent Park
on Oct 5, 2007 at 2:12 pm
Bob Wenzlau is a registered user.
For those that have tracked efforts to try to improve the safety around the underpass, I wanted to share some recent progress. While not in this area, last week's pedestrian accident on Embarcadero should inspire these improvements.
The need has been recognized by the Palo Alto High School students, and they have appealed to the City Council to make it safe. Please see the editorial they wrote:
Web Link
- The problem was brought to the attention of City Council at their public forum before council starts. The Council was silent -- I remain confused as to why one goes there.
- The issue was again brought to the Palo Alto High School administration, and they continue to see that they have not standing in this issue. Again, I think they have this wrong.
- The issue was presented at the Oct 1 meeting of the Palo Alto Bike Commission. They agreed for the need for railings, and hold an interest in studying the larger pedestrian and bike issues around this area.
- The Town & Country Trader Joe's project, if it proceeds, would have a major impact on this area. They propose the addition of a signal at the Embarcadero entrance. This would also allow the high school to turn with a signal. Pedestrians would not be permitted to cross here. They also propose a new exit using the "old Embarcadero" frontage road. Here the city staff has an improvement where the exit would occur after the cross walk (toward Stanford), and would permit an expanded bike/pedestrian standing zone that we have now. (I was very impressed at the innovative solution they created) They also have requested that railing be introduced as a mitigation measure. This was presented at the Bike Commission, and it was apparent how complicated an improvement this is, and more design work will be required. My quick view was that while the Trader Joe's project would increase the traffic, the car, pedestrian and bike situation might actually improve. These improvements have still not been finalized, and will be part of an ARB discussion in November.
- Staff is looking into ways that an interim railing can be installed in the short term. This is great, and hopefully can be completed in the next month or so.
Still, we don't have ANY improvements yet, and I hope for vigilance in supporting and encouraging city staff to get railings in, and ultimately addressing the other urgent safety needs in this area.
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Oct 5, 2007 at 2:54 pm
"last week's pedestrian accident on Embarcadero should inspire these improvements."
Were you trying to do more than increase the railing height? I dont get the connection other than they occurred on the same road. I assume you are talking about the prius vs 84 year old gentleman.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Oct 5, 2007 at 4:37 pm
Bob Wenzlau is a registered user.
Below is a link to a picture showing where the railing would go. There are 4 sections like this when you consider all approaches to the underpass. The existing railing is not all that great, but it is better than no railing at all.
Web Link
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Oct 5, 2007 at 4:47 pm
I am familiar with the railing, I think extending it is a good thing. That was not really my question.
I dont get your statement
"last week's pedestrian accident on Embarcadero should inspire these improvements."
How so?
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Pork Butt
I know that the Americans call your bottom/backside the butt, so why call the pork shoulder that?
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Re: Pork Butt
They're American....let them have their own rules.....
How's the snow in Blandford???
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karenlesley wrote:
I know that the Americans call your bottom/backside the butt, so why call the pork shoulder that?
Check a dictionary. Butt used to mean bottom is an informal use of the word. It has many meanings, one being the blunt end of something. Calling the rear end of a person a butt is a little crass, not really used in polite society.
eta: It's not really a bad word used that way, but people who prefer to use polite language like my parents would tell us not to use that term because it sounds a little crude. Today, no one would even blink at it being used that way because life imitates art and people imitate the lowest level of use of American English from films. A pretty funny example was that when having dinner with a colleague a few times overseas, he was using the 'f' word out loud in a restaurant, assuming that Americans throw that word out in public loudly in any company because of the way it's used in films. There are still people who would be deeply offended by that word in our culture, although I am not sure if it is as bad in British English?
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Hi Wine~O, Snow is disappearing fast, especialy where the birds are foraging for seeds and apple bits. The main roads are clear and the side roads a bit clagged up. Whereabouts in Dorset are you?
Ms Pablo, thank you for that explanation; I had just not thought of the alternative uses of the word 'butt'.
The 'F' word seems to be used by the younger generation a lot, heaven knows why! they obviously don't know the meaning of it, I used to work with older teenagers and young twenties and let them know, in no uncertain terms, that I wouldn't tolerate that sort of language. They soon stopped.
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I have tried to find a definitive reason behind the name before with no real luck.
I can give you the oft repeated internet folklore .
During revolutionary and civil war times , cheaper cuts of meat including pork were packed in casks or Butts for transport. Pork shoulder roasts that were cut in a specific way in boston eventually became known as boston butt . Now often called pork butt or butt.
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Overall, UTSA ranked No. 4 with 1,357 or 47 percent of undergraduate degrees awarded to Hispanics of the 2,871 total bachelor's degrees awarded. Additionally, UTSA ranked No. 16 in the number of master's degrees awarded to Hispanics with 247 or 33 percent of a total 757 awarded.
The survey also ranked two UTSA academic programs higher than the previous year's rankings. The architecture program in the UTSA School of Architecture improved from 9th to 4th place, awarding 29 undergraduate degrees. The criminal justice/protective services program in the UTSA College of Public Policy improved from 5th to 3rd place, awarding 105 undergraduate degrees to Hispanics.
For the eighth time in nine years, UTSA ranked first in the biological sciences with 105 undergraduate degrees awarded to Hispanics.
UTSA currently offers 41 master's degree programs, in addition to 55 undergraduate and 13 doctoral degree programs.
In the number of bachelor's degrees awarded to Hispanics in individual academic programs among the top 10 disciplines, UTSA ranked:
1st -- Biological Sciences: 105
2nd -- Business and marketing: 384
3rd -- Multi/interdisciplinary studies: 139
3rd -- Criminal justice/protective services: 105
4th -- Architecture: 29
5th -- Psychology: 113
7th -- English literature: 52
8th -- Mathematics: 14
"These findings again demonstrate UTSA's commitment to better serving our students traditionally underrepresented in higher education," said UTSA President Ricardo Romo.
"The growth of UTSA's School of Architecture program is significant as we look to expand course offerings at the rapidly growing UTSA Downtown Campus," said Romo. "To have eight undergraduate degree programs in the top 10 nationally out of the 21 discipline concentrations surveyed is a tribute to the commitment and dedication of our excellent faculty."
Overall, the University of Texas System dominated the first tier of the Top 100 institutions with UT Pan American, UT El Paso, UT San Antonio, and UT Austin placing among the Top 10.


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I've been critical of Diehl's play before, but I won't say a word about it again. Diehl is a true giant.
Let's go Giants!
I've been critical of Diehl's play before, but I won't say a word about it again. Diehl is a true giant.
Let's go Giants!
Sounds like an ok Diehl to me.
Mood: WOOF!
First of all, Diehl needs a pay cut and he knows it. But how many people do we need to restructure to keep Cruz? Is everyone going to chip in and restructure to resign Nicks and JPP next year? Are Cruz, Nicks and JPP going to restructure when we need to resign other new players in 3 to 5 years. Restructuring is not a pay cut -- we'd just being paying more money to these players next year unless they're cut.
If Cruz doesn't sign with another team this offseason, then he'd better sign a long term contract with the Giants this year and not plan on playing out the year to get to UFA status next year. If he doesn't sign long-term with his hometown team this year where his fellow players are offering to restructure left and right to keep him, and make oodles of money in the process, then I say trade him.
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How can he restructure when he will be in the final year of his contract?
**** restructuring! That doesn't help the team. Let him take a pay cut before giving props
We Want 5!
How did he restructure? Does this mean he got an extention? I thought he was in his final year. I'd like to hear details.
This is just silliness. Diehl doesn't need to "restructure to help sign Cruz." That is such a self serving comment. Diehl needs to play for much less money plain and simple.
No one remembers who came in second.
A guy in his last year, willing to decrease his pay, TWICE, for the Giants organization...man I just cant say enough about this guy. So tired of all the Diehl bashing, the guy has been a key part of this offense for a decade. Now in his last payday hes willing to give money up to help the team. Diehl you are going down in my book, right up there with Lomas Brown, one of my all time favorite Giants OLineman.


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The second highest readership of this blog is not Australia, last time I heard. It might surprise you but it was the US. That implies that maybe people at Apple, or at least Americans with an interest in Apple (developers?), are reading it. I don't have metrics for the Herald, but for my mac-nz blog it's pretty crazy: for example, for March 2013 I had 46,437 hits originating in NZ and 10,157 originating in the US. There were 5747 from 'Unknown' (which I've always imagined is mobile devices, in which case they're probably also NZ-based, but AWStats doesn't detail this). There were a paltry 2849 hits from Australia, then in descending order , China, Ukraine (!), then Israel (again, !) and so on.
Anyway, this Herald blog had a similar breakdown in the first four instances, so I reckon if I say what I'd like to see in the next system, and so do you (in the comments) we have a good chance of being heard. So please do.
Mac OS 10.9x
In OS 10.9, I'd like to be able to run the apps I buy for my iDevices. Why not? iOS is a subset of OS X, so it should be easy.
I understand it couldn't go the other way, but this way? Seems (albeit uninformedly) a cinch.
It is thought OS X 10.9 might introduce two of Apple's iOS features: the rather derided Apple Maps application, and Siri the virtual personal assistant that first appeared on the iPhone 4S in late 2011.
You might laugh at the Maps idea, but with Eddie Cue now leading the Maps team (and the Siri team) Apple is reportedly working hard to fix, tweak, remove and add features to its Maps app.
Maps integration gives Apple more precise data on device location and uses, so it's potentially useful to Apple as well as to us.
I don't use Siri much at all on my iPhone (see below) but on a Mac it might be more useful. As a fairly typical (ie, reticent) Kiwi, I'm more likely to talk to my Mac in my own office than I am as I'm walking down the street to a smartphone. Siri takes a fair bit of processor power, so it's a feature that may not work on older Macs, if it appears, even if users install the latest system.
IB Times has more speculation on OS 10.9.
As a minor point, on a Mac you can alias files and folders to the right side of the Dock, between the divider and the Trash, just by dragging them to that area. I relish the ready access to folders I choose to place there, like Documents but also various folder repositories of interesting stories I find that might lead to Mac Planet blogs, etcetera.
You can launch files simply by clicking once on them, but I often prefer to open the actual folders so I can view all their contents and sort them by the various sort criteria. Trouble is, the Open In Finder button is right at the bottom; I have to scroll through these ever lengthening lists to get to it. It's a minor point, but I'd like the button to be at the top, please.
Anyway, OS 10.9 does rather beg the question: what do you call OS 11? Snow Fish? Mountain Gorilla?
On the 'new iPhone' front, a 5S is likely to appear before an iPhone 6. An iPhone 5S interim model, to follow an Apple-established pattern, will most likely appear mid-yearish. But iOS 7 will probably be announced, if not released, at the mid-year Apple World Wide Developers Conference in San Francisco.
As far as iOS and a new iPhone goes, I don't care about fingerprint sensors and retina scanners. I mean, after sanding floors in my house, I don't think I have any fingerprints left - how would a fingerprint scanner cope with that? Or even dirt? Some wishes like these strike me as fanciful and ridiculous. Someone's been watching too much sci-fi. Forgetting a password and being locked out of your device is bad enough. Being locked out because you've been gardening seems really stupid.
RTFD, likewise - I mean, in New Zealand anyway. Really, do you think your local Wellington café is going to have the capacity to read an RTFD chip in your phone any time soon? The banks would need to implement it, too. I doubt it. But then, the telco industry here privately insisted 4G/LTE would never happen, since that they'd skip it and wait for the next iteration of cellular data - then Vodafone launched it. And I have seen NZ developers playing around with RTFD and they're a bunch of geniuses, so I'm pretty sure near-field radio communication chips would have some amazing uses well beyond springing for coffee that I don't know about or can't imagine yet, so who knows?
Advance-wise, my iOS devices already do a lot more than I can use. I do find the Settings layout a little impenetrable at times - as the devices become more sophisticated, I'd like to see this overhauled.
Siri, of course, is still technically in Beta, so maybe this will emerge as the real thing. Whatever that is. I mean seriously, as fascinating as I find Siri and as cool as that tech is, I just don't use it. I don't like talking at my phone very much, but I know a couple of people (out of the perhaps 30 iPhone users I know) who use it a lot. But hey, how about more alternative Siri voices? The dictation features probably have more chance of being used, but it's s-l-o-w.
Do Not Disturb is a good iOS 6 feature, but it could do with more flexibility in settings.
Being able to hide or even delete the default Apple apps might be good - for now, I just chuck them into a folder and move it to A Screen Far Away. I'd like quitting apps to be easier (no, clicking the Home button does NOT quit an app).
Wireless charging, now that could be cool, since many of us already have two or more cables and chargers if we have more than one iDevice. But I'm not sure what enough electrons shooting through air to charge a device is going to do to my brain. But it could happen - Apple filed a patent application last year for 'Wireless Power Utilization', a wireless charging system using near-field magnetic resonance (NFMR).
So what do you expect, or more importantly, want?


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The Napster settlement has been bothering me a lot, especially since it sets absolutely no precedent. A single music company agreed to drop a suit. Great. What if on the new SuperNapsterPayPerDownload service some kiddie starts trading music from different labels than BMG, and those other labels (which might be small and independent) for some reason do not want their music distributed in this way? Is it OK just becuase Big Business is behind the pay service? BMG will get money from the new Napster service, but small independent labels will most likely not.
This is depressing because many had hoped the Napster case would clarify this confusing aspect of copyright law. As far as current copyright law stands, I see no reason why an independent label could not sue Napster/BMG and have just as large a case as the RIAA did.
What was settled was not settled between all parties that had claim to the money that "Napster had taken away from them". All that happened was that one of the larger parties got what they wanted. This does not clarify anything and does not solve any problems that other companies claim they had. If smaller record companies sue, do they have a chance?
I am also unhappy about the distinction that seems to be arising between the legalities of a non-pay service versus those of a costly service. If Napster was aiding people in piracy when it was public, why will it be any different when it becomes an exclusive club of piracy? Audio that BMG does not hold the copyright to still will be traded. Many companies, and even people blamed Napster for facilitating this piracy, and therefore being liable for it. Once Napster comes up from the underground, how will it be any different? If I record farting noises, sell CD's of them, and they get put on Napster, can I sue Napster? Well, this was basically what companies were doing to Napster before the BMG deal.
The involvement of Big Business should not change the percieved or real legality of a service


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Has anyone tried making some kind of a drip system from a 50 gallon plastic ( blue) barrel!
How do you provide water for them?
I am in S. Cal. and my biggest concern is that the water would spoil in the 50 gallon barrel.
I have 16 hives - my first year - in a citrus orchard where there is adequate irrigation going on all the time but would like to give the orchard owner a little break on his water bill.
Any ideas are welcome.


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Over at the delightfully geeky economics blog Centives, they have develop some new calculations to establish the cost of being an unbeatable evil overlord. So, if you are looking for a change of career, or a new more secure job in these challenging times – at least these folks have done the costings for you.
If there's one thing that the movies have taught us it's that evil never succeeds. Yet most of the time evil fails for silly reasons. In 1994 Peter Anspach published the 100 things he would do if he ever became an evil overlord. They included such gems as:
- If my advisors ask "Why are you risking everything on such a mad scheme?" I will not proceed until I have a response that satisfies them.
- When I've captured my adversary and he says, "Look, before you kill me, will you at least tell me what this is all about?" I'll say, "No." and shoot him. No, on second thought I'll shoot him then say "No."
- I will maintain a realistic assessment of my strengths and weaknesses. Even though this takes some of the fun out of the job, at least I will never utter the line "No, this cannot be! I AM INVINCIBLE!!!" (After that, death is usually instantaneous.)
But while following such prescripts are likely to lead to evil-overlord levels of success, is it financially viable to do so?
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Re: st: Can't generate perfect theoretic standard normal.
Jeph Herrin <firstname.lastname@example.com>
Re: st: Can't generate perfect theoretic standard normal.
Wed, 09 May 2007 19:07:59 -0400
10x does not help much - the variance is closer to 1 but
kurtosis about the same:
set mem 1500m
set obs 100000000
* 100,000,000 obs!
generate perfuniform = _n/(_N+1)
generate perfnorm = invnorm(perfuniform)
summarize perfnorm, detail
. summarize perfnorm, detail
Percentiles Smallest
1% -2.326348 -5.612001
5% -1.644854 -5.490852
10% -1.281552 -5.418801 Obs 99999998
25% -.6744897 -5.367129 Sum of Wgt. 99999998
50% -3.74e-08 Mean -1.14e-07
Largest Std. Dev. .9999995
75% .6744897 5.294704
90% 1.281551 5.294704 Variance .999999
95% 1.644853 5.294704 Skewness -3.31e-06
99% 2.326348 5.294704 Kurtosis 2.999973
D H wrote:
Apparently, I need an infinite sample size to obtain a perfect
theoretic standard normal distribution with zero skew, variance
exactly 1 and kurtosis exactly 3.
Consider the following code:
version 8.2
set memory 400m
* 10,000,000 obs!:
set obs 10000000
generate double perfuniform = _n/(_N+1)
generate double perfnorm = invnorm(perfuniform)
summarize perfnorm, detail
The last command yields:
Percentiles Smallest
1% -2.326346 -5.199338
5% -1.644853 -5.068958
10% -1.281551 -4.991217 Obs 10000000
25% -.6744897 -4.935367 Sum of Wgt. 10000000
50% 6.96e-17 Mean 7.79e-18
Largest Std. Dev. .9999986
75% .6744897 4.935367
90% 1.281551 4.991217 Variance .9999971
95% 1.644853 5.068958 Skewness 3.23e-16
99% 2.326346 5.199338 Kurtosis 2.999924
Now the skew is basically zero, but the kurtosis and variance are not
precisely Gaussian. For 20,000 observations, the above would give
similar skew, kurtosis=2.987949 and variance = .9991686. (n=2000:
small skew, kurt=2.937, Var=.99386)
I see a number of possible approaches to this issue.
1) Include the numbers 1 and 0 in the uniform distribution. This
doesn't work: the invnorm function simply produces missing values for
those observations.
2) Take a harder look at my allegedly perfect uniform distribution.
Is this where I went wrong?
3) Try another statistics package?? (Somehow I doubt that this would help.)
4) We can always rescale the dispersion. Divide the resulting
distribution by the standard deviation. Consider this addition to the
10,000,000 obs example:
gen double perfnorm2=perfnorm/r(sd)
sum perfnorm2, detail
In that case, skew stays close to zero, var=1 and kurtosis is
unaffected - still less than 3.
5) Set up a loop and iteratively modify a couple of observations to
improve the kurtosis. Set the proper variance with 4). I
experimented with that: one problem is that this patch doesn't really
produce a perfect theoretic Gaussian distribution, but rather a
6) Ignore the problem and characterize it as an oddity. Note though
that this may imply that normally distributed standard random
variables in Stata will not be perfectly standard normals *on
average*: even their variance will be a little lower without
adjustment. These effects would presumably be swamped by ordinary
sampling randomness.
More generally, I wonder whether this is the proper way to generate a
standard normal random variable in Stata:
gen double perfuniform = _n/(_N+1)
gen double perfnorm = invnorm(perfuniform)
sum perfnorm
scalar adjsd=r(sd)
gen double randnorm = invnorm(uniform())/adjsd
This procedure would not correct the kurtosis though.
Might this effect matter in small samples? Sure: for n=20, the
unadjusted variance of the theoretic standard normal would be .794,
which seems low.
But recall point 2): I'm probably missing something. For example, the
uniform random number generator would not produce the sort of evenly
spread-out numbers in my perfuniform variable. So this adjustment may
be inappropriate. Monte Carlo work might clarify matters, as would
additional conceptual insight. In short, I would avoid using this
adjustment without further analysis.
7) Or perhaps I *am* generating perfectly normal distributions, but
that theoretic normals only have kurtosis -> 3 as n -> infinity. I
don't know.
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text: If SHBs dislike light (aka SBBs) why not insert a small LED light on the inner cover? It is true that bees prefer dark but they will accept a lighted colony. I have seen exposed comb following storm damage where the bees were stilll prefectly happy. Maybe a translusient cover?


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Although feed input costs have been declining recently, dairy producers need to effectively and efficiently manage their feeding programs. These actions maintain milk production and keeps costs in check.
Hutjens stressed the importance of knowing these key statistics on your operation:
feed cost per day
feed cost per hundredweight (cwt) of milk produced
feed costs per pound of dry matter (DM)
income over feed cost
feed efficiency (pounds of milk per pounds of DM).
What are some areas of potential improvement?
Feed variation is one. This includes allowing for differences in harvesting and chopping. Also, nutrient variation encompasses forage differences (fields or sections) and inconsistent nutrients in feed ingredients. He encourages producers to include only 2 to 5 pounds of DM of feedstuffs with inconsistent ingredients, lessening their ration impact. Also, routinely checking with forage testing labs for averages in your area is a good idea.
With bunker silos, Hutjens strongly suggests taking silage from top to bottom of the face, mix it, and then add it to the mixer wagon. "Dry matter at the top of the pile is different than the silage dry matter at the bottom," notes Hutjens.
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text: My wife was out of town driving the tahoe when as she explains a big 'cling/banging' noise. she smelled rubber as the truck stopped almost immediately. I can hear and slightly feel the transmission working, but it wont move the truck at all. I figure it's either the REAR END or a locked REAR BRAKE, but I don't know how to tell which one it is. Can someone please chime in and help me troubleshoot this thing? I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks


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Update! Did a little work on my raid concepts, which can be found here:
Necropolis of Nerub
Nidhogg's Lair
Palace of the Spider Queen
And here's a little spooky ghost:
Aqir Wraith
Get ready for more art cuz I have like 8 more pics almost ready to post.
In the meantime have fun reading my thoughts on archaeology, legendary weapons, and such and such.
Re.: the different levels, in MoP you're called to fly all over Pandaria at level 90 to fulfill various daily quests, sometimes passing through areas with lower levels, but mostly sticking to regions specifically set up to be level 90 questing areas. What I've done isn't any different, I've just spread the leveling quest areas across multiple zones instead of just the daily ones.
Go big or go home! I've actually tried to set this concept up in such a way that if it were an actually game design proposal, there are plenty of areas where things could be cut, removed, toned down, etc. to make it more viable (skipping the Northrend revamp zones, taking out some dungeons, etc.)The artwork is nice but speaking as a games designer myself i think the concept is a little over the top,needs to be toned down abit.
I basically have done that, in an effort to turn it into a pvp-oriented zone - the Krasarang Wilds PvP area is pretty much exactly what I envisioned the new Crystalsong being.[*]It would be interesting to renew the Crystalsong Forest zone: an enlarged area (with fewer dead zones) without Dalaran and therefore with two facing cities, both for the Alliance and for the Horde, led by the Silver Covenant and the Sunreavers respectively (the current Windrunner's Overlook and Sunreaver's Command but more developed and fortified).
Dalaran moving away actually fucks up my story super, super hard... I hope they put it back when they're done with it.
The Newbreed receive orders through a psychic hivemind that is controlled by the Spiderminds, leaving non-Newbreed spider lords like Tuten'Kahn with little actual authority and few of the duties they once fulfilled for the Spider Kingdom. He is the Spider King and thus technically ruler of all Azjol-Nerub, but his subjects are not his own children, nor do they require his leadership. He and his title are largely obsolete in the Newbreed order.
All of this has contributed to him having an extremely bad attitude, and anyone trespassing in the palace will find themselves as a target of his considerable frustration.
It's good to see this thread still getting bumped once in a while! The concept is great and the OP clearly put a shitton of effort into fleshing it out. It deserves to be seen.
I love your idea Golden Yak. I've curiously clicked your signature a few times over the years and am always fascinated. If ever we go back to Northrend, I hope Blizzard contacts you and spreads your idea to the game (really).
About the heroic only boss in Palace of the Spider Queen, judging its subzone name and the trash mob I'm almost certain that it's the dreaded "bad guy" you pointed out in this story. So is he the mastermind behind the Newbreed, and the one whom Nezar'Kali claims to serve (according to her quotes)?
Speaking of which, is Neraz'Kali Newbreed too or part of the previous generation?
inb4 blizzard steals all of your ideas. Pretty darn cool nonetheless.
If this expansion had came out after me leaving cataclysm, it would have probably brought me and my money back to the game.
We would have seen enough of the spiders in LK to be enticed for more. Expanding on what we knew and saw from LK. Some familiarity in old content to drive new content but expanding on it in a big way. Expansion gold.
MOP - Vague information few knew about unless you played an old WC strat game and you could still play it and miss the connection.
If you were not a book reader of WC and played the game only, you would have little to no clue about anything in MOP. Very skippable expansion with little to no information to from the game to build on.
A Spider expansion in an underground kingdom with some similar themes from LK. (of course all of it expanded on as well).
Hell, I'm almost sold now thinking about it vs what I actually played of MOP.
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Massive amount of work, amazing stuff.
Have you considered linking this stuff on the official forums? Blizzard might take an interest!
Great artwork! I don't know if the "spider" theme would be enough for an entire expansion though Would make an interesting content patch though.
Thanks for the kind words, everyone. Have some bug people:
The 'Murloc/Gorloc/Virmin' of the Spider Kingdom.
As for Nezar'Kali, she is not one of the Newbreed. In-game right now, if you go through the Ahn'Kahet dungeon and beat the last boss, a bunch of living nerubians come in and start tending to the clutch of nerubian eggs hidden there, including one especially big one. According to my story, that's Nezar'Kali, and those eggs are the last of the non-Newbreed nerubians, the previous generation.
The first Newbreed didn't appear until after Nezar'Kali hatched and reached maturity (which was rapidly, thanks to the nerubian viziers tending her egg - they needed a new queen quickly).
But if you replace 'spider' with 'panda' I would have had the same thought before Mists came out. You might be able to tell this from my earlier comments, but I loooove that I can point to Pandaria now.
I think there's a certain amount of (understandable) frustration when previously established concepts are put on hold in favor of new stuff, especially if one had a particular interest in one thing or another. Obviously, fans that were hoping existing ideas would be addressed won't be as happy to see them put on the back burner while brand new concepts are introduced, even if the new stuff winds up being great. I love Mists so far, but if they had offered me a choice between Mists and, say, an Emerald Dream expansion that had the same quality of work put into it as Mists has gotten so far, I'd have picked the Emerald Dream one.And using the argument "well, this whole Mists thing wasn't in the original lore!" What do you do when your primary lore has all been covered? You make more. You continue the storyline. Like any other franchise.
Mmn, read through the Archeology bits. Amazing stuff as always, though I'm not a fan of the trolls getting help from the dragons. Still you do a great job with all this.
Twas brillig
Thats the great thing about stories. Not everyone likes the same thing. It's not a hard concept to get. MOP was some poorly written junk (and I'll put this in cause I'm sure someone will jump on it ----> IMHO)
Again, been there, read them. Very easy to skip as far as stories go. However, I...Of course you won't see it unless you actually play it and do more than just click through quests like a madman.
Played, Vanilla, TBC, WoTLK - liked them.
Played Cataclysm - Not so good and a good reason to keep my money.
Played MOP - Not good enough to pay for.
It's not a hard concept to understand. I do not like the current story. It had little mentioning in game but unlike the spiders which were all over some expansions and in various forms. People had some connection to them throughout the game. MOP - out of left field from some vague reading. Showed in a different game many didn't see (even though many did) and even if you played it could easily miss. So many other avenues lore stories could have taken that would have had a better impact. They could have dropped back to Serpent shrine cavern and what all was going on there and it would have grabbed more peoples attention on lore than MOP. (again IMHO)
And using the argument, "Oh they will just make more lore." doesn't mean it will be worth a damn. Which I don't think it currently is. I at least think the spider kingdom held more merit than MOP did and currently does.And using the argument "well, this whole Mists thing wasn't in the original lore!" What do you do when your primary lore has all been covered? You make more. You continue the storyline. Like any other franchise.
But all this is for a different thread. The work the OP is doing is much more impressive in my eyes than what I have seen come from WOW's developers in the last 2 expansion and for me, it actually got my attention as something I would like to see vs what I have seen.
and thats saying something given the OP is just having fun with it
Maybe I should work on a kobold expansion. If you can take something as obscure as MOP is and turn it into an expansion and then see what you have done with the spiders (which we knew more about in game) then kobolds should be interesting.
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I might just like these guys even more than spider people...
Mole-like humanoids who have survived the underworld of Northrend for centuries. They were born from the shed blood of a mighty mole ancient who fought against the Burning Legion 10,000 years ago. The ancient slew many demons before it was finally slain in turn, and its blood flowed into the caverns and tunnels of the land that would become Northrend. There it gave rise to the duggum, who formed a close-knit society of many clan-families that has survived since the time of the Sundering. Small and clever, they avoided conflict with all the other races that shelter in the underworld.
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The duggum are cautious to approach other races, but those who earn their trust can learn a great deal about Azeroth's underworld, and will find in them a people prepared to stand against the dark threats that rise from further below. The duggum have a vast knowledge of farming and gathering in subterranean environments, and their sages and spell-casters know a great deal of lore about the tending of life in the deep earth.
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Because I decided that I needed more friendly people.The duggum are nearly sightless, and sense their enviornment through smell, sound, and detecting the vibrations of the world around them. They dwell mainly in deep darkness, as the light of day is harmful to them, and any illuminattion brighter than the faintest glow of shimmer moss or glowstone is uncomfortable. Becuase of this trait, they have had some difficulty in communicating their ideals to those who follow the Holy Light of Creation. While the duggum honor its power, their name for it is different - they call it the Guardian Dark. The duggum believe that light blinds, while in the darkness, eyes open wider. The darkness they call upon with their spell-casting is nothing like the spells of shadow and negative energy that warlocks and shadow-priests use - rather, it is a dark radiance that brings comfort and healing, not unlike the soothing balm of sleep. This phenomenon has perplexed the priests and paladins who have come to study under this curious people.
The blue, black, and green dragonflights did not give public or widespread support to the trolls, and the red and bronze flights refrained altogether. The dragons waited until the aqir legions were engaged on numerous widespread battlefields against the trolls. They took advantage of Azj'Aqir being depleted of most of its forces and struck at the aqir central hive-city, Azj'Naggai. It was an attack meant to halt a threat to all of Azeroth, one as great as the Hour of Twilight, and the dragons succeeded. It was possibly the first recorded instance in Azeroth of a small group of determined and capable beings (who just so happened to be dragons) penetrating an enemy stronghold to eliminate a powerful, monstrous threat.
With their emperor's scheme foiled, there came no relief to the aqir armies, and they fell to the might of the trolls. The destruction of Azj'Aqir might not have been as complete if the aqir emperor had not invited the fury of the dragonflights, but even if he hadn't, the loss of the aqir was inevitable.
Thanks for the post!
I would so 'dig' mole men in WoW (see what I did there)
Blizzard need to hire you, or at least get you to work with them for these ideas,
Oh god, updates. <3
I just finished reading the newest 5 man dungeons, awesome as always (even though I still think some of those 5 man bosses are simply too complex for a 5 man enviroment - even though, none of the newer bosses is as complex as your first ones in Naxxramas and Riplash... xD).
I am now going to read through your raid content and I am going to expect greatness beyond from those battles! :A
Why don't you work for blizz? You're awesome.
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Just got my bees back from California. They look like they are on their way to a full recovery. The brood is very healthy and great population. I spoke with my uncle (who, as I posted before, lost about 80% of his 4000 colony operation to "ccd") as we were talking I told him of one colony I had marked as a breeder before we left for Cali. This colony was by far the best in my little outfit. It looked perfect prior to going to the almonds and when I checked the other day it was still cranking. Out of 600 colonies it was the only one that experience almost no loss over winter. My uncle then proceeded to tell me that all of his best colonies were exactly the same bees. They are Italian looking but fairly agressive and have some traits of an african cross breed (i.e. small in size and fairly hyper, with huge brood chambers) The queens, however ar dark yellowish/orange withno stripes. He described to me exactly the colony I had marked as a breeder. It appears to be a common gene line. We often swap queens when we get new ones from various places so this explains how we both have the same, but not sure why I only have one (at least that I noticed, haven't finished checking all yet) Niether he or I know where this strain came from as we don't keep close enough tabs on blood lines, but I think I will start.
Has anyone out there experienced anything similar?


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I love the premise the Katana was built on. I want more though and I dont know how to build the full package of what I want. I think of it as a Katana on steroids.
I was looking at the Colt SP6940; a good name brand. Its .223 or NATO and accepts M-16 Magazines. 14 inch barrel and collapsible stock. I want the Red Dot Optic and a 3X magnifier behind it. I also want a Sure Fire pulse light at about 10 Oclock for a thumb touch. I definitely want a tactical sling. Night Optics would be awesome but likely out of reality. All of these could be bought anywhere; however, I want it to also to have dependable Iron Sights for a bad day. All the toys need to fold away or I can see myself using a tree to bash them off my rifle on that bad day.
I know that Colt is a quality gun, however, I dont want to pay their premium price and still take it to an expert Gunsmith (like you) to get it to Mil-Spec. I also dont want to play the buy-by-the-piece game and waste money with parts that dont match. Although I wonder what Manufacture platform you use, I trust that you would not sell me anything you would not deem reliable to protect my family.
I think theres a market for what I described. There is likely a lot that could be added that I didnt mention. You may have already built it and I cant find it. I can see that there is a long waiting list for Gunsmith creations and specialties. I would like to see you market the Ultimate AR-15. Ill buy the first one!
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From my experience in Kuwait ^^^this would be the optimum set up.
Also, I don't know the exact location of the OP in Kuwait but the closer he could get to the Gulf the better.
Cooler temps near the Persian Gulf.
Out in the desert, I don't see bees having a chance.
120 degree heat and when the wind blows it doesn't cool. It has more like a hairdryer effect.
You can get cooler by getting out of the wind.
Odd, I know.
...and it can get real cold at night and during the winter.
I just don't see bees thriving there. Maybe if the OP got an Egyptian strain, but still...
My recommendation would be to move.


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Sick of him
Sick of him
Sick of your stupid posts
Do you post anything but complaints? I'd say the lack of posts in this thread say people agree
But if you wanna talk about the stupid decision dusty did that almost cost this game, we can do that
Yeah, I hate it when the manager brings in the closer in a save situation.
(Referring to Jack Hannahan signing with a Korean team)
Since there are no teams on the moon, I guess South Korea's far enough from Cincinnati to satisfy me.
there was a reason why Marshall was a situational 8 inning pitcher in Chicago and not a closer when Marmol can struggle throwing strikes..if your closer relies on curveballs to get outs in giving a three run lead...your a hanging breaking ball away. it works on below average teams but your not fooling a playoff team. Better keep warming up a pitcher every time he comes to the mound..wasted two arms for three outs
A team one game over .500 clearly has nothing to complain about
That's whats wrong with this fan base..you are impressed with mediocrity..and never get upset that your team spent over one hundred mill before season started and you got one win..pathetic. Quit accepting this garbage and get upset about your team under achieving
(Referring to Jack Hannahan signing with a Korean team)
Since there are no teams on the moon, I guess South Korea's far enough from Cincinnati to satisfy me.
If Bailey/Latos turn it up a notch and Stubbs get hot in June, this team could go on quite a run covering up for some weaknesses.
I don't think nobody is happy with 20-19, but we have had a red hot type streak yet. Which could happen anytime now imo. Latos stunk to May 25th of last year. Bailey had major surges in 2006 and 2009 in his development, just think his performance going from a 4 to a 2? Stubbs is streaky and may be due for a hot streak. Then we come into July around 1st place with enough assets to push us over and make us favorites by the playoffs.
Listen, if the Reds june swoon again, nobody will be happy. But they have to do it first.
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Regional one would be fine. But north/south I would find questionable????
Won't accomplish mating nucs for this year, but I got material for 200 started and acquired enough material for about 300 more.
I'm doing everything by myself, except when pulling honey. Making equipment, making splits, adding boxes when needed. Can't seem to find more than 24 hrs in a day or a 8 day week.
But the "it doesn't work unless it's under the handkerchief" - or "I'm just too busy to do that - maybe later" responses does lend a distinct aroma - even if one wants to believe. Just sayin'.
But it is well established that Tim does not care what anyone else thinks. So there we are.
You know, going from not rearing queens to running 500 mating nucs is a heckuva leap - right?
Queens and nucs already fund the equipment I need, plus some stuff I don't need!
And I assure you, they're not unobtainium, there are now several users of this website who have some of my bees, and I've had no complaints and have not even heard that any have been lost.
I'm not sure how the price is relevant, if you want shiny trinkets, you ought not expect scrap iron prices. I got numerous emails of the sort "will you have queens on such and such a date?" to which I consistently replied, "if you'd like to make a reservation, I will put you on the list." Never heard back. Now I am getting multiple emails of people asking for queens and all I can say is "they're all spoken for." Seems like y'all should already know that bees are hard to get this time of year. Every month I post about how short my season is. It's almost over now. So I don't see how this is my problem.
If only I could find some young enterprising person like Sam Comfort to come be attentive to the bees daily and live in a van and make queens for me for which I would pay that person a substantial cut of the sales. Otherwise, I have to do it myself and that makes the operation necessarily limited. So, if you want bees from me, follow the procedure. You can start now, the 2014 list is yet empty.
It seems to be hard to fine "Real TF" people.... I would think that a Parker Queen or an Ives Queen would fetch a premium price..... I bet you are underpriced.
"If nominated, I will not run; if elected, I will not serve."
It's called a businees plan for a reason.
However, without the right profit margins, and of course, the right paperwork, it becomes difficult to make anything happen.
Perhaps you should examine a chemical free model like the one used by BeeWeaver.
Hint: it's in the South.
Have you looked at Mel's "on the spot" queen rearing methods?
You've got 75 colonies that aren't in towers. Why don't you sell uncapped virgins for a start?
That's 100 per body by the way. So, 7,500 X $20-35 + the usual express mail shipping and handling markup.
Tim, I'm interested in this idea of old queens not moving down in the spring, can you elaborate on this?
"The only beekeepers with good queens are beekeepers that are raising their own queens."
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hey deknow.. Einstein was a physicist, did he really quote that?
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The boss was a pretty tough old guy, I was a teenage kid. I'd often been the "gopher" when grafting was being done, running cells between starter hives etc. I'd seen plenty of grafting but not done it.
One day the boss says "Hey Al. You graft today". I'd never grafted but didn't want to admit it, so did what I'd seen others do and grafted away, while someone else was the gopher. Then, an anxious 24 hour wait to see what sort of take I got, and yes I was nervous the boss was slow to forgive bad performance.
Anyhow we open the starters, and Whoah! Very high take. . The boss said "pretty good Al", and from that time I did all the grafting.
Anybody wanting to try it, just go for it. The grafting is actually the easy part, the important part is plenty bees, plenty food.
"Thinking Inside The Box"
Say the beeleepers name, especially if he's gone.
Superstiiciton you know.
Observation after a period of time. I see 3rd season queens being the most prolific year. Then brood frame counts drops from there. If I have a chance to mark a queen I will. I don't specifically use time to do so. Brood boxes are painted to correspond to queen colors. So i know which year that hive was created. Hives that swarm or supercede do not produce the average in honey production. If a hive is with in average the first round but not the second round but is above average on goldenrod. Then high probabilty it swarmed in late June..
Since all hives are set up the same going into winter. There's a fairly close average of what's going on in late winter. I use a stethoscope with end piece removed. I can tell by sound where the cluster is. Again there is a average of what's going on. Around Feb 20th prolific queens drop all the way down. This is where all the pollen is. Once the brood is capped. The cluster will move up to 2nd deep then the 3rd as they consumed the honey to make brood. Once fresh pollen comes in around March 11, then they'll start drone brood. Once drone brood starts emerging, they can start swarm cells. Which is why I start supering before that happens. Once the worker brood emerges and they start the nectar flow off crop 'weeds'. They get crowded real quick.
Older queens fails to drop down in what I call hyper-lay mode and is out of the average of activity. After seeing this a few years. I started taking away the bottom 2 deeps to cull out old frames. Once a new queen was created, then would add new deeps. Kinda like if it was a split.


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Bios: 6MET56WW (1.19) (upgraded from 1.18)
T510, i7 2.66MHz, 4MB DDR3, Windows 7 Ultimate (64 bit)
An audible "click" before and after any windows sounds, samples or MP3 play.
Playing sound (MP3, Audio CD, iPlayer), sound shortly (within seconds)
mutes, especially at volumes above 25 on the OSD.
Adjusting sound volume up or down (or mute then unmute) will restore
sound, but only briefly.
This occurs over inbuilt speakers only. If headphones are connected, no
muting occurs, no audible clicks before or after windows sounds or other
Sound over external USB audio devices work flawlessly.
I've taken advice on "Trouble shooting audio - Thinkpad", including re-installing drivers and upgrading BIOS to no avail.
Can anyone help me here? It's very tricky to establish whether this is a hardware fault or a low level software one. Not looking forward to long delays of a return to base warantee, but maybe there is a quick solution I've overlooked.
There seems to be a few ppl experiencing audio problems with T400/500 series, but haven't found answer yet.
I wouldn't think this is a hardware issue since I have seen it come and go with various releases of drivers on my T500. If you try different versions of the drivers with the same results though I would call it in and open a ticket, since that atleast will cover you.
I just purchased this same product:
Product: 4313CTO
T510, i7 2.66MHz, 4MB DDR3, but with Windows 7 Pro
I have the identical problem. When the speakers are on, they click before and after every sound. And I guess sometimes the sound is very short because I hear clicking alot from the speakers.
When I try to listen to my favorite downloaded windows media files, the sound stops after a few minutes. Then if you press the speaker volume up or down the sound returns only to shut off after only a minute or less, just like _vortex reported.
It seems to me, also, it would be a software issue, but not sure. It almost seems like with all the clicking there is competition for the speakers and whoever is clicking takes over the speakers. Seems like this would be a driver problem.
Would like to know if there is a fix.
hi, I just bought a 64bit t510i i3 win 7 and are in your same situation.
now after doing the updates via tinkvantage, my sound has disappeared completely.
please let me know if you solved your problems.
I hope I am not wrong with Lenovo, but it is certainly not a good start! with IBM for 10 years I never had any problems, but I think now is very different.
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I have the exact same problem with T510 running the lates bios version and latest sound drivers as of 10/05/2012. Have you had any luck fixing the issue.


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This is my first year with TB hives and I will admit I am hooked after only 2 weeks.
My company is a furniture manufacturer here in NC and we run current CNC technology for all of our wood parts. CNC routers, saws etc.
I hand ripped my 32mm top bars from 4/4 red oak this year. Next year I plan on running them on a moulder. I'll run in 6' or 8' lengths, one pass and they're done. If you would be interested in buying some of these (4/4 oak), I'll price them and we will go from there. Sure took me a long time to hand rip and bevel 120 bars this year.
I am also going to set up a program on the CNC to build hive parts -- sides, bottom, back, and front. Dovetail construction, all from shop scrap, 3/4" or 1" plywood.
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