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On Deadline blog: Jim Keene feels the pain of spillover parking, or at least knows its impacts
Original post made by Jay Thorwaldson, editor emeritus, on Jan 24, 2013
Or at least he sees its impacts on a daily basis: He resides in "Downtown North," the residential area north of the downtown commercial/office district that stretches from El Camino Real to just past Middlefield Road.
There are no easy solutions to the spillover, which he calls a "system" problem -- meaning that one approach alone won't solve either the immediate short-term or long-term aspects.
"Parking is on everybody's radar," Keene observed in a recent interview. Yet the image of what to do about it remains as fuzzy and complex as in decades past.
Downtown North and its counterpart south of downtown, the "South of Forest Avenue" (SOFA) area, are the most heavily hit residential areas in Palo Alto.
People who work in downtown find it easier to walk several blocks rather than deal with (1) having to move their cars every three hours or so (and risk getting pricey parking tickets), or (2) deal with the city bureaucracy and cost of getting long-term parking permits for parking structures.
"Clearly downtown is the worst" in terms of overflow impacts, Keene said. Other impacted areas include the residential neighborhoods flanking the California Avenue business district, parts of College Terrace and, recently, streets near the Newell Road Bridge. The 1911 bridge leads to the "Triangle" area of East Palo Alto -- where apartment-parking fees and increased enforcement along Woodland Avenue have pushed up to 50 residents over the bridge to park.
Parking, and spillover parking, have been a Palo Alto problem for at least six decades, dating back to the fast-growth years of the late 1940s and 1950s. Former City Manager George Morgan said circa 1970 that when he first joined the city staff in the early 1950s (as an "assistant to the city manager") his first assignment from his boss Jerry Keithley was to "solve the downtown parking problem."
"It will never be solved," Morgan concluded from nearly two decades of personal experience.
Spillover became more serious as intensity increased, with the high-rise Palo Alto Office Center in the 1960s and other developments. Downtown Palo Alto surged from a sleepy place -- severely impacted economically by the opening of the Stanford Shopping Center in the late 1950s -- to a world hub of venture capital, money-management firms and start-up high-tech firms.
A downtown parking assessment district was formed early on to help finance parking improvements. For many years, parking meters lined the streets until they were replaced by color-zone limits with trendy names, such as teal, coral and others. Yet both meters and zones are designed to keep spaces turning over for shoppers, not for all-day parking.
In the late 1980s, an estimated 6,000 people worked in the downtown, but neither the city nor the Chamber of Commerce knew for sure. Neither kept a census of businesses, and the city had no business license tax -- still a touchy subject today.
In the late 1980s, I co-chaired a "Parking/Transportation Task Force" under the Chamber in an effort to improve the parking situation by developing a concentrated effort to encourage people to try alternative transportation. We sponsored one of the first "Leave Your Car At Home" days in the Bay Area. That day resulted in a lot of press, someone riding a horse to work (tying it to a parking-meter post).
Lacking a sustained effort, the long-term effects were minimal, with one exception: City staffer Marvin Overway took the initiative to re-stripe on-street parking spaces (dating from the big-car 1950s) to the smaller cars of the late 1980s. He produced about 140 "new" spaces at a minuscule cost.
Downtown-based developer Chop Keenan (deeply skeptical of alternative-transportation efforts) later headed a committee that pushed successfully for construction of new parking garages, at an assessment cost to businesses.
There actually may have been a time a decade or so ago when there was adequate parking downtown -- theoretically. Two major start-ups pulled out to grow big elsewhere, and the vacancy rate soared. But downtown workers still shied from the parking structures, due to cost and inconvenience.
Downtown recovered and again is booming and growing, with major proposals such as the four-building plan by Stanford benefactor and developer John Arrillaga. Increasing intensity of use of existing buildings is an unknown factor.
So it comes down to what to do.
Keene sees the challenge as a balancing act between the impact of overflow parking on residents and the cost of significantly improving parking downtown.
The assessment district is stretched to pay for past structures, and the city may have to take the initiative on its own for any additional construction of new spaces, Keene indicated. But the city has its own budget woes.
One possible step would be parking permits for residents of the heavy-impact areas, Keene notes. But permits have been suggested before, and a majority of residents back in the 1980s rejected them as cumbersome (and potentially costly from fees), while policing the streets for violators would add costs to the city.
Times have changed, and new leadership of the overflow-parking subject has emerged for both north and south of downtown: former longtime Mountain View planning official Ken Alsman in the south and former El Camino Hospital Administrator Neilson Buchanan in the north. Both have years of experience navigating bureaucracies, and are not about to let this challenge sit there like a parked car.
The city has placed a moratorium on TDM (transfer of development rights) for parking, and the need for more parking is clear.
"But how do we build it?" Keene asks.
"There's no way to build enough parking soon enough to redress the concerns. In similar situations elsewhere, there always comes a time when residential-permit parking comes along."
Keene is suggesting a pilot permit program, as a start.
And interested parties -- residents, business owners and employees, others -- should tune in to the City Council retreat Feb. 2 to "watch this parking space" for other new (or old) ideas.
Note: Former Weekly Editor Jay Thorwaldson can be e-mailed at firstname.lastname@example.com with a copy to email@example.com.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 24, 2013 at 10:00 am
All this has been said in editorials and opinion pieces before.
Why are we (or "they") not discussing making the parking we have more user friendly? Why can't we have pay per hour machines in all city lots? Why can't we have metered parking? Are parking meters that unsightly?
I often need to park in downtown Redwood City. The meters are 25c per hour! I can always find somewhere to park close to where I need to go. I can feed the meter with as much money as I need to park and usually put in extra just to be sure!
Parking in Palo Alto is unnecessarily difficult. It does cause me problems because I frequently need to spend longer than 3 hours and finding the right parking lot with a meter is something that I find frustrating so what must it be like for someone from out of town?
It is no wonder people are willing to park and walk a couple of blocks when the system itself is broken. Fixing the broken system would be an easy fix. Then when that is up and running successfully it might be worth seeing how bad the problem is and then looking for a different approach. In the meantime, put pay per hour machines in all city lots and see what happens!
a resident of Fairmeadow
on Jan 24, 2013 at 12:20 pm
Here are some questions I would like to see answered on the City's web-site—
Parking Structures
What exactly is the Downtown Parking Assessment District?
Why does this entity have the obligation of paying off the bonds for the construction of the parking structures that it agreed to pay for, and the City get to charge users of the structures?
Why isn't the Parking Assessment District in charge of the structures?
How much is left to pay off on each of the District's parking structures?
Can the City legally pay off the District's obligations for these structures?
Can these structures be enlarged—via additional floors?
What would it take to outsource the management of these structures to a professional entity that would be tasked to manage these structures better than they have been in the past?
What legal authority does the City have to limit future growth in the downtown area?
Can the City legally require any future development in the downtown to provide parking outside the downtown area—moving motorists to/from downtown via shuttles?
Can the City use its Eminent Domain rights to seize residential properties to provide parking space for future business to locate in Palo Alto, or to expand here?
Does the City use simulation software to model growth, and related traffic, in the downtown area?
Does the City have any idea what the impact would be on parking if it created a neighborhood parking permit program?
Has the City modeled its parking structures with software—to determine the effect of installing hourly parking meters?
Has the City used any technology (such as real-time monitoring the number of cars in a parking structures) to help visitors know which structures have free space (such as a Smartphone App)?
Wonder if City Manager James Keene can answer these questions?
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jan 24, 2013 at 4:21 pm
Wayne - those are all good questions. There is one really simple problem though - employees will not pay to use a parking structure if neighborhood parking is free.


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I think my routine will change - from one guy opening all the lids while another guy feeds patties, then the first guy feeds liquid, then the second guy closes lids to something more like the following:
Both guys cork all holes, and close all entrances. One guy opens a lid while the other guy covers the hive with a net. After they are all open, both guys start feeding patties, then about two-thirds of the way through, one breaks off and starts feeding syrup. The other guy finishes with the patties, then goes to closing hives under each net, then the syrup guy finishes with the syrup, and goes to removing the nets off the closed hives and both guys open entrances after they are all fed. Corks can stay in for a day or two - make them eat first!
The arrangement you mention is better than the one I was using, forcing a robber bee to go through a one-bee opening and directly through a large, defensive cluster to a feeder on the opposite end of the hive. And, like you say, be obsessive about not letting them get started in the first place. THAT will really help!

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The '''Police Bike''' is a [[LCPD in GTA IV Era|Liberty City Police Department]] [[Motor Officer|police motorcycle]] normally featured only in [[The Ballad of Gay Tony]]'s [[Multiplayer in GTA IV|multiplayer]].
The '''Police Bike''' is a [[LCPD in GTA IV Era|Liberty City Police Department]] [[Motor Officer|police motorcycle]] normally featured only in [[The Ballad of Gay Tony]]'s [[Multiplayer in GTA IV|multiplayer]].
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- "Police Bike" refers to the police motorcycle in The Ballad of Gay Tony. For other police bikes in the GTA series, see HPV-1000 or VCPD Wintergreen.
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The Police Bike is a Liberty City Police Department police motorcycle normally featured only in The Ballad of Gay Tony's multiplayer as well as in Grand Theft Auto V.
Based off a Harley-Davidson Electra Glide, the Police Bike is styled as a police-adopted touring motorcycle in LCPD's white-and-blue livery. The bike is also prominently equipped with a fairing, and side and back-mounted panniers/boxes.
Despite most motorbikes being able to seat two people, however, the Police Bike can only seat one person as a box has occupied the area where the rear seat should be. In addition, while the Police Bike is additionally equipped with strobe lights and a siren, activating them will not force any traffic ahead to make way. The bike also lacks an emergency radio or access to other radio stations by default in single player; as are other law enforcement vehicles, however, players can listen to radio stations from the bike in multiplayer.
Like the Police Stinger and Buffalo-based Police Cruiser, the bike is neither ridden by any NPC police officer nor seen in The Ballad of Gay Tony's single player mode. The only conventional means of finding and obtaining the vehicle is via specific multiplayer modes, such as Free Mode.
While bulkier, the Police Bike's performance is comparable to that of the Freeway. The bike can achieve top speeds of roughly 80 mph/130 km/h and is similarly capable of moderate acceleration, making the bike's speed effective only when ridden along longer straightaways; the bike's brakes are similarly effective even in high speeds.
The bike is more nimble, however, being capable of taking corners more sharply than other similarly built bikes. While still weaker than full-size vehicles, the Police Bike's durability is one of the best in the motorcycle class, being able to take around ten high-speed collisions before failing.
- The default radio stations on the Police Bike are Liberty Rock Radio 97.8 and rarely LCHC.
- Oddly, the Police Bike features blue and red lights instead of the LCPD standard red and white lights, similar to the Police Stinger in that aspect. The light reflections of the Bike are also brighter than that of other Police vehicles in GTA IV.
As mentioned, the Police Bike is only available in selected multiplayer modes in The Ballad of Gay Tony. In Free Mode, the bike will spawn in the following locations:
- In front of the Hove Beach police station.
- In front of the LCPD Headquarters in Lower Easton.
- In the parking lot of the East Island City police station.
- In the parking lot of the Leftwood police station.
The only other means of obtaining the bike, including in single player, is via cheats or trainers.
See also
- HPV-1000, GTA San Andreas equivalent.
- VCPD Wintergreen, GTA Vice City Stories equivalent.


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The Nisswa Fire Department is looking for sponsors for its annual Fishing Derby from noon to 2 p.m. Sunday, Feb. 17, on Nisswa Lake, held in conjunction with the Nisswa Winter Jubilee.
The Fishing Derby is an annual event for families and children. The Nisswa Fire Department is seeking donations from anyone who is interested in helping with this event.
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Arthur Richard Kayala, age 90, of Brainerd, and formerly Pine River, passed away Thursday, Nov. 15, 2012, at Bethany Good Samaritan Center in Brainerd. He was born to Tuomas and Sophia Kayala on April 7, 1922, in Pine River.
Art married Hazel Healey on Nov. 11, 1944, in Batley, England. He served in the U.S. Army 82nd Airborne as a paratrooper with multiple tours in Africa, Sicily and finally in the Battle of the Bulge. Art was employed by the State of Minnesota for 25 years and was also a dairy farmer.
Art is survived by his children: Christine Jones (David), of Sartell, Maxine Norman, of Menahga, Sharon Ruberg, of Bemidji, Lindsey Finch (Jeff), of Chanhassen, Tom Kayala (Dianne), of Exeter, R.I., Mike Kayala (Gail), of Little Falls, Jeff Kayala (Donna), of San Antonio, Texas, Peter Kayala, of Denver, Colo., Greg Kayala (Sandi), of Sparta, Wis.; 18 grandchildren and 12 great-grandchildren.
He was preceded in death by his wife, Hazel; and sons-in-law, Oscar Norman and Jack Ruberg.
Memorials to the Pine River American Legion are preferred in lieu of flowers.
Services will be 11 a.m. on Monday, Nov. 19, at First Lutheran Church, Pine River. Burial will follow at Pine Ridge Cemetery, Pine River. Visitation will be Sunday from 3-5 p.m. with sharing time at 4:30 p.m. at Kline Funeral Home, Pine River, and one hour prior to the service at the church. Arrangements are with Kline Funeral Home, Pine River.


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MT story Well, it's longer than the previous, it looks a lot longer. A lot of 6 series here, but I'm wondering why it's SO FREAKING LONG. I want to see the actual size because I'm willing to bet it's near the length of the last gen 5 series. Like all cars the 3 series has now outgrown it's heritage (New civic is the size of old accord, new Corolla size of old camry, etc) it's a type of automotive-gentrification that lets new cars slide into old spots, I'm hoping that this new, larger three series begets an american 1 series!
I still like the current 3 series coupe models.
"If one does not fail at times, then one has not challenged himself" Ferdinand Porsche
that looks WAAAAY better than the 06 3 coupe. but the problem with these is that there is two much back window. these so much space between the door and the back wheel, tha it might as well be a quad coupe imo.
The reason you think there's so much space between the door and the back wheel is that you're used to seeing GM cars where they make the door as large as possible to infuriate people who drive them.
The 2007 3-Series looks ugly in my view. Ugh!
I don't like it.
i like the design but not the proportions. i have the same problem with the new GTO, the side looks so long.
The front of the '07 3 Series is perfect, but the back is unproportional and ugly.....
Am I the only one who likes it just the way it is?
They have a tough job to keep up with...the E46 M3 was a perfectly styled car.
Quote: Like all cars the 3 series has now outgrown it's heritage
In a couple more years, the BMW will be a 2000 Grand Am, not a fan of it. With each year, each BMW gets bigger. Pretty soon the 7 will be too big and they will cancel it, then the 3 and 5 will become the old 5 and 7. Then the 1 will be introduced- which will be the same size as an early 3. Then the whole cycle starts again.
Another recent example I forgot to mention is the new Toyota RAV4. Not really a car I'd ever buy, but I thought it made a lot more sense, when it was a small 4 cyl that you could get a 5 spd with. I don't understand the point, of getting rid of the only compact SUV in their lineup, only to add a 3rd midsize one. Sure the 4Runner has legitimate offroad capability, but the RAV4 and Highlander seem like the exact same size. My cousin has on of the older RAV4s, and its smaller, lighter, and therefor has more nimble handling. Not only has it grown in size, but in price too. I dunno, maybe they have plans of launching a new Scion compact SUV. Then there's the upcomming "Retro" toyota SUV. I think its pathetic, that Toyota will have 6 SUVs in their lineup, and no sports coupes. I don't see whats wrong with the size that compact car were 5 to 10 years ago. I'd preffer a compact car, the size of before, with a price a 1,000 to 2,000 less than the current ones. Another example of a good compact car, that grew and has been IMO ruined: VW Jetta.
6 SUVs?
4runner (my favorite of the toyotas)
Land Cruiser
and FJ Cruiser
none of those are getting cut?
even land cruiser is staying?
imo Japan isn't good at sport cars. niether is Korea.
I agree. My friend has an older RAV4. We off-roaded that thing at least once a week. And I mean really off-roading it, striaght up hills, almost bottoming it out on rocks and ditches, driving through creeks. That thing rocked. His brother then got a newer one and when I saw it was I was disgusted. The thing had about 4-5" less ground clearance than his older model! That and the newer one looked like it was a whole another model because of how big it was.


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BofA $8.5 Billion MBS Accord Looked Small, Objectors Say
Bank of America Corp.'s $8.5 billion settlement with mortgage-bond holders "looked minuscule" to sophisticated investors, a lawyer for opponents of the agreement told a Manhattan judge.
"This unprecedented settlement should not be approved because it's the result of a flawed and conflicted process," Daniel Reilly, an attorney for American International Group Inc. (AIG), the lead objector to the settlement, told New York State Supreme Court Justice Barbara Kapnick today during closing arguments of a hearing on the agreement.
The settlement is part of an effort by Brian Moynihan, chief executive officer of Charlotte, North Carolina-based Bank of America, to resolve liabilities tied to faulty mortgages that have cost the company about $50 billion in legal claims, including those the bank inherited with the purchase of home lender Countrywide Financial Corp. in 2008.
The accord, which includes more than $3 billion in servicing improvements, resolves claims over mortgages packaged into securities. It settles allegations the loans backing the bonds didn't meet their promised quality. While the settlement was backed by a group of more than two dozen investors including BlackRock Inc. (BLK) and Pacific Investment Management Co., almost four dozen investors objected, including AIG.
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"To sophisticated investors, the number looked minuscule compared to the hundreds of billions of dollars in losses," Reilly said today. "The process was in the dark, and the relief requested sent up red flags in the financial community and with those who invest in mortgage-backed securities."
Bank of New York Mellon Corp., as trustee for more than 500 residential mortgage-securitization trusts, filed a petition in June 2011 seeking approval of the settlement under a state law that allows trustees to seek judicial consent for their actions.
Matthew Ingber, a lawyer for the trustee, defended the settlement yesterday, saying it gave investors more than twice what they would have recovered through litigation.
The closing arguments cap a hearing that started in June, stretched over eight weeks and included testimony from almost two dozen witnesses and evidence from more than 200 documents.
Opponents will be bound by the settlement, if approved. They said in court papers that the process leading to the agreement was "plagued by conflict and collusion" and settles claims where investor losses totaled more than $100 billion.
"If this court says no to this settlement, there are sophisticated parties around this table," Reilly said. "The objectors who were left out of the negotiating room will be there, and we'll get it done."
The case is In the Matter of the Application of the Bank of New York Mellon, 651786-2011, New York State Supreme Court, New York County (Manhattan).
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Wausau Homes to host CHOW luncheon June 5
The staff at Wausau Homes in Nisswa will host a Brainerd Lakes Chamber CHOW luncheon from noon to 1 p.m. Wednesday, June 5. Wausau Homes will provide chamber members with lunch, information about its business and door prizes.
Wausau Homes, on Smiley Road in Nisswa (immediately east of Highway 371), builds custom homes.
The chamber's CHOW lunches are business development opportunities that connect chamber members with business prospects and event hosts. Cost to attend is $5. All guests who are pre-registered by noon the day before the event will be eligible for door prizes.
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Whats killing the bees? Pesticides, but not the ones you think By Randy Oliver,Beekeeper, Scientist, Writer
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journaling the growth of a treatment free apiary started in 2010. 20+/- hives
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Try it. What could happen?
I'd characterize 'The Daily Caller' and author, Jon Entine, who featured Randy in a 'Forbes' piece, as having close organizational ties to the Bush Administration.
I'm picking up on the 'NeoCon' vibe.
I think that it's important to know that when reading a piece on a controversial subject.
Why should I read a political piece with a neocon spin to it?
From a beekeeper yet?
WLC; Is this a political posting for you or about bees? We have to be open to all points of view to solve problems.
However, he gets to immediately discount anything that doesn't follow his agenda instead reviewing the actual findings.
The financial difference between what someone like this is actually worth versus what they think they are worth is easily in the millions.
Ninja, is not in the dictionary. Well played Ninja's, well played...
If you folks would stop quoting his (wlc) posts...I wouldn't have to read them at all. The ignore option is my friend....now if I can only get it to ignore those quotes....sigh.
Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. - Emerson
I'm not going to grant scientific credibility to anything appearing on a site that also calls global warming a myth.
I support the scientific consensus. Not some Neo-Conservative, revisionist agenda.
Just say 'No' to 'Junk Science' and its proponents.
Oh wait ....
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If you do what you have always done you will experience what you have always experienced. That's what I used to do. And it often brought out in me things I did not like. So, I no longer read WLC's comments and I am a better person for it. We each have an Ignore List. Whether we use it or not is up to each of us.
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I do read the scientific literature, and I've kept current enought to say that neonics have been shown to be a contributing factor to Honeybee declines.
It makes no sense whatsoever to imply otherwise.
I prefer to get my information from a primary, peer reviewed, source rather than elsewhere.
It cuts out the middleman and any bias.
What you're linking to simply isn't mainstream science by any stretch of the imagination.
I'd rather read about cell phones and the Earth's changing magnetic field as a cause for Honeybee decline on a different 'fringe' site. I'd find it to be far more amusing.
What's funny is that most of the above usual suspects are on my ignore list as well.
It's like trying to avoid the smell from a crew asphalting the road.
Nothing seems to help.
[QUOTE=WLC;1000657]I do read the scientific literature, and I've kept current enought to say that neonics have been shown to be a contributing factor to Honeybee declines.
WLC - I'd be interested in reading this, if you can provide a reference. Thanks.
Once the bee is inside, Mr. Veil is no longer your friend.
Please don't spend too much time on the Earthcalm site. After all, we'd all miss your wisdom here ....
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Rader, is it a black hole? Is that why you warn him?
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No-spanking is not for state to decide
Original post made by Diana Diamond, Palo Alto Online blogger, on Jan 19, 2007
Lieber's controversial proposal would forbid, she said, "any striking of a child, any corporal punishment, smacking, hitting, punching, any of that," and subject the parent to a misdemeanor, punishable by up to a year in jail or a fine up to $1,000,
Now I am against hurting a child in any way, and deplore any parent who would beat a child. But a little swat on the behind is different, and at times an appropriate way to tell a child that what he is doing is wrong.
I can well remember when my 13-month-old son was crawling around and insisted on pulling on the cord while I was ironing. I pulled him away, put him in his playpen, where he started to scream. I got him out, and back to the cord he went – three times. Did I want a hot iron falling on his head? Absolutely not. One swat convinced my son that maybe pulling on an iron cord was not a good idea. Obviously he was too young to reason with.
Having had four sons, I can think of many times when a little spank was the only way to let a child know that he was acting inappropriately. And I don't think there is anything wrong with that.
Experts in child psychology have disagreed for years whether spanking is an appropriate and effective way for a parent to discipline a child. Some say it is fine, as long as it is used sparingly and doesn't escalate into child abuse. Others say it is better to reason with a child.
Sometimes it is hard to reason with a 2-year-old.
Lieber is asking the government to act as Big Brother and make it a misdemeanor if a parent swats a child. I think that is wrong, because it clearly interferes with what is a parent's responsibility, not the government's. Next thing she will be insisting is that parents make sure their children are not obese, and fine us if they are, or demand that we read to our children each night.
There are many parents who choose to never swat their children, and I think that is great. There are others who think an occasional swat is appropriate and I think that is fine. Spanking is an issue for parents to decide – not the state government.
Comments (34)
a resident of Stanford
on Jan 19, 2007 at 9:28 am
The blood of the first toddler who runs into the street and gets run over, or electrocutes himself by playing with a socket, or is opportunistically abducted because he "runs away" from the parent's sight, is on Lieber's hands if she gets this through.
A swat on the diapered bottom or on the offending hand gets attention and links it to the behavior..which diminishes the behavior, and saves lives.
This woman can't differentiate between responsible parenting and abuse. Classic black and white poor thinking.
Throw out the baby with the bathwater
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 19, 2007 at 9:53 am
This really is opening up a can of worms.
There is so much child abuse going on that I don't think that a law is going to make a difference to abusive parents which may be the idea behind the bill. Good parents who occasionally feel the need to spank a child, without temper, in the child's best interest, are not going to change their behavior. Parents who continually spank a child, because of temper or alcoholism, are going to do it in their homes anyway and if it is done for something that happened hours ago while the child was away from home, then there is a double problem. Firstly the child will have forgotten the behavior being punished for so it is useless, and secondly the pent up anger of the parents who want to give their child what for, will cause what could have been a quick swat into a serious beating.
In my experience, spanking used in the correct manner is an appropriate discipline (teaching method not punishment). It should be rare. It is better for the parent to do the ironing in the playpen (or as I did it behind the kiddy gate into the kitchen while the child played in the family room) is a better method.
I used spanking for two things, one if there was blatant disobedience to me and secondly if they did something on purpose to cause pain or serious distress to another child. This was the only time spanking seems appropriate. It was done in private with an explanation of why it was happening and with me calm and business like. I always followed with a hug and told them I loved them and I wanted their behavior to improve, not that they were a bad kid.
Getting laws to make parents behave is only going to intrude into a family's personal life, making things difficult for the good parents and worse for the children of those whose parenting skills are not so good. This could turn into a slippery slope as Diana says and who knows where it could end.
a resident of another community
on Jan 19, 2007 at 1:23 pm
It seems to me that Sally Lieber's proposal is arrogant in the extreme. When you consider that almost every child in the entire history of mankind until very recently was subject to corporal punishment she, and those who agree with her, must think themselves smarter than virtually every parent, in essentially every culture, in recorded history.
No parent with a modest level of sanity enjoys punnishing their children. Where do you think old sayings like "spare the rod and spoil the child" and "you'll thank me for this later" come from? These are designed to help the parent get past the emotional pain they feel when they cause physical pain to their kids. Designed by a community that knew from long millenium's of experience that an occasional swat on the bottom was necessary to raise a good kid.
a resident of Palo Alto Hills
on Jan 19, 2007 at 7:31 pm
this spanking ban is whats wrong with america people are affraid to disapline thier children, there fore it teaches children no respect and they get unruly and that is where all the problems of society come from, no disapline, no respect. i myself have been spanked when i was a child and i turned out alright. i deserved every spanking i got and i dont hate anybody for it. i am a better person for it.
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Jan 19, 2007 at 8:07 pm
There are many reasons to oppose any such law: What constitutes spanking ? Bruse's?, A pink spot? Witnesses needed? Revenge by someone who claimed you spanked? A 3 year old calling 911 when they get mad at you? (never teach a child to call 911). Hire 3 more police in every city to enforce this. Set up cameras in homes/streets to watch for spanking? Shoppers who are annoyed by children call 911 to get the child out of the store and claim there was spanking.. Do we need more big goverment. How about requiring couples to attend classes on child rearing, etc before allowing them to get married. This would be more helpful.
a resident of Midtown
on Jan 20, 2007 at 7:50 am
Mom swats child. Mom arrested.
Mom loses job.
Child loses Mom.
Definition of a liberal - someone so dumb they cannot differentiate between cutting off a child's allowance and cutting off his hand.
a resident of another community
on Jan 20, 2007 at 9:13 am
I agree with Walter_E_Wallis: "spare the rod, spoil the child" built our whole civilization! Adults need to prove to those carpet munchers and rug rats who wears the pants (or the skirt), as it were.
Liberalism has run amok. The result? The Iraq War fiasco, gigantic federal deficits, rampant graft and corruption in federal contracting, the FEMA-Katrina debacle, dumb and incompetent high federal political appointees, etc. And that's just under Bush-Cheney!
a resident of another community
on Jan 20, 2007 at 12:38 pm
I have witnessed children growing up without ever being touched. They are selfish, self centered and have no understanding of consequenes. They become manipulative at an early age. When they enter the real world they can not adapt to the real world being very different. Ultimately they because or the best victoms or the best criminals.
There are of course betters ways of dealing with children then corporal punishment. They of course only work when corporal punishment is still a feared possibility. And of the parents that do not have top parenting skills, who will help them raise children in some idealistic way?
The government is ready to get involved in interferring in raising of a child, but do little to solve the problems that result of there interference.
For abusive parents, they will attempt to comply with this law until a breaking point, which will result in grave consequenses, releasing all ther frustation at once..
a resident of another community
on Jan 20, 2007 at 12:42 pm
Sally Lieber should be recalled for proposing such a law.
a resident of another community
on Jan 20, 2007 at 1:31 pm
I'm from another state, just reading the news. I won't pretend to know about the particulars of California law but being the progressive state the rest of the country knows, it seems as though you have the same problems everybody else does. Instead of enforcing the laws we already have, they want to make new ones to intrude into your life even further. Funny thing happens when you start checking them out though, they scream and cry about people prying into their personal lives. I know Cali has child abuse laws, if she wants to do something positive, let her find a way to investigate and enforce those. It seems its just another politician trying to get media attention from this veiw, hold her accountable for wasting your time and tax dollars.
a resident of another community
on Jan 20, 2007 at 1:32 pm
It is precisely this kind of proposed legislation that scares the hell out of middle America. Out here, beyond the bounds of the Bay Area, we believe that Senators Barbara and Diane and their cohorts would like to impose similar ideas about the government's role in our lives.
Considering that local, state and federal officials (D and R) have demonstrated for generations that they can't control themselves, who would want them to pass legislation to control us?
a resident of another community
on Jan 20, 2007 at 10:32 pm
In the bio on her website, Sally Lieber seems to imply that she and her husband have no children but "take seriously their role as pet guardians for a politically astute black-and-white cat."
How cute. With all of the problems facing this state, this young person presumes to understand what is best for parents. If her arrogance was not so dangerous she might be amusing, however, she appears as a poster child for feelings-based legislation...doomed to accomplish nothing because it is not based upon fact.
Grow up, wise up, shut up.
a resident of another community
on Jan 21, 2007 at 12:30 am
I have no strong opinion about the legislation under question; those enforcing the child abuse and neglect reporting laws are already incredibly underfunded, but I am saddened by the words chosen by those who have responded to this article.
I have a six year old who I have never hit. He is a model of consideration and respect for others and spends his time with others (both children and adults) who behave in the same way. There have been many times when he was out of control from infancy onward. Several strategies have worked, with the most intense involving holding. I would sit him in my lap with his back to me and hold his body close, but only tight enough that he could not thrash about, while at the same time speaking in a calm and loving manner and letting him have time to regain control. Sometimes it would take less than a minute; sometimes it would take more like 10 mins. This is a classic use of "time out" from stimuli that de-escalates the situation, rather than "time out" as punishment that is used. I can only imagine the unnecessarily defensive attitudes hitting him would have caused -- either defiance or submission.
I can't imagine that the resulting dynamics wouldn't have made him either more distrustful of himself or of me. If you are reading this and want resources, I like Benjamin Spock's "Your Baby and Child" for starters.
a resident of another community
on Jan 21, 2007 at 12:35 am
Hilarious! Idiotic... from someone who doesn't have kids? MY WORD... MORONIC... This kind of thinking.. the depravity of it all.. you know... the liberal minded psycosis... like there is alot of 3 year olds pissed about their parents spanking them.. it's so sick.. tackle some real problems... this should show people how idiotic moronic the mind can get once it tunes into liberal soft idiotic passive thinking..
a resident of another community
on Jan 21, 2007 at 1:35 am
I was spanked as a child, and so were my brother and sister. I can't say I liked it, but it taught me right from wrong when no amount of lecturing would do. When it came time to raise my own daughter, I used mild spanking and swats on her wrist whenever appropriate. She got the message, and guess what: she grew up to become a smiling young woman and most accomplished person who was the valedictorian of her school, a national merit scholar, and a phi-beta-kappa Stanford grad, among many other distinctions. We have talked of her spanking on occasions. She remembers it, but bears no grudge. It is not the physical pain that matters, which in any case is rather mild, but the stern message that accompanies it: there are lines that must not be crossed. Sometimes, there is no other way to deliver it.
a resident of another community
on Jan 22, 2007 at 5:56 am
Raising violence among children has nothing to do with spanking, I grew up in a era where a snap on the butt helped teach that there is a price to pay for bad behavior. The real reason for the violence is single parent homes and the lack of whole family contact. Boys need a male parent to teach responsiblity and mother to teach love and compassion, this comes from a warm family environment. Divorce is the poison of the our youth.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 22, 2007 at 8:49 am
Paul G
How right you are. It is no co-incidence that two people are needed to create a child and that two parents are needed to raise a child. Each child, boy or girl, needs two parents as role models and mentors. Yes, children can get this from elsewhere, but the best way is from their own parents. Even in many two parent homes, the children never seem to see the two parents at the same time, or do anything together as a family. As a society we must get back to basics and put family values first. After that, all sorts of things will fall into place that appear to be in a mess at present.
Palo Alto Online blogger
on Jan 22, 2007 at 9:58 am
Diana Diamond is a registered user.
I dcn't think we can blame the violence in our society on single parents. It's a much more complex problem.
Some single parents do a fantastic job of raising their children, others do not. Single parenthood is the result of divorce and death, oftentimes not the "fault" of the single parent. It is unfair to blame a parent who is trying to raise a child alone -- a difficult task --- for a societal problem.
Violence can, in part, be blamed on the fact that we tend to be a more violent society than others. We now have shootings almost daily in East Palo Alto, and there is little outcry. We have become used to that in our society.
But I digress. The issue we are discussing here is whether it is okay to spank a child. I agree with those who have said that sometimes, particularly for toddlers, a swat on the rear is the only way they can learn that certain behavior is not permissible. An occasional slap is not child abuse.
a resident of The Greenhouse
on Jan 25, 2007 at 11:05 am
Many thanks for Diane's forum and level headed journalism!
Mr. Adam Hill: Lets see the outcome of your pride and joy of pure idealism after 20 years where there is no spanking, just prison, just cold hard reality...
BTW, Spock recanted his work as valid years later...stop being 6 and grow up.....
a resident of Stanford
on Jan 25, 2007 at 1:21 pm
93% of teen aged males incarcerated for murder come from single parent homes.
I forget the number for incarcerated teen females, ..but it was close to that.
I hope I can find the source. It was a couple years ago.
Yes, violence and single parenthood ( moms) are highly related. Many factors involved in this, of course, but we cannot deny the correlation.
This is off the spanking topic, but I coudn't resist the lure to respond.
As for you, Adam, who has been so fortunate as to raise a male child to the age of 6 without ever even having to slap a hand or a diapered bottom, congratulations. Count your blessings. It isn't because you were such a great parent doing such a better job than the rest of us horrible and uninformed parents who have never heard of, much less read, Spock and who became parents because we wanted to hit our kids, it is that you were lucky to have a child with a temperament that responded to the same techniques that probably every single one of us tried.
Ask anyone with more than one kid. I was shocked that the temperament of mine were so different, such that I didn't "swat" my first son throughout his toddler years, but often is was only a swat that made my youngest "listen". Even after all my experience and knowledge, years of trying everything else.
I lost my smugness and judgementalism after another, later, child.
Don't be smug and judgemental.
And, as with my first, wait until the first time when there is a critical battle of wills between you, and he absolutely must comply, for his health and safety ( though I hope that never happens).
Don't be too hard on yourself, when you do the last resort. It feels horrible, but your first job is the safety of your child.
And, wait until he is a teen, and believes that there is nothing you can do to stop him from behaving in any way he wishes, so you are forced into very drastic and harsh measures that you don't want to do, but must do to keep him safe until he is 18, (or just give up and lose him earlier).
A lot of Spock babies hit that wall
a resident of Midtown
on Jan 26, 2007 at 10:20 am
Although we cannot agree with Ms Lieber's idealisms in any capacity, the main topic here is that the GOVERNMENT at any level, should not have the ability to intrude on such personal matters at any time and any degree...To suggest otherwise is disgracefull...
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 26, 2007 at 3:26 pm
wow... what about smacking them in the face when the misbehave? would that be wrong? YES! So why is the butt any different! Don't hit your kids. Its that simple... Its sad that there has to be a law for people to become responsible parents.
There are many ways to discipline your children besides hitting them. read a book, take a class. I was never hit as a child and I turned out just fine... and I will not hit my children!
And to the first person that commented...
"The blood of the first toddler who runs into the street and gets run over, or electrocutes himself by playing with a socket, or is opportunistically abducted because he "runs away" from the parent's sight, is on Lieber's hands if she gets this through."
Grow up! Take some responsibility for your parenting and quit blaming everyone else! The only reason for your kids to not run into the street, or stick their finger in a power socket, or runs away, SHOULDN'T be because they are going to get spanked!!! Teach them. Don't hit them.
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jan 26, 2007 at 3:38 pm
Thank God we live in Georgia!
a resident of Downtown North
on Jan 26, 2007 at 7:20 pm
I agree with Cody. Teach them, don't hit them.
While a bill banning spanking may be inappropriate, one does not need to be a parent to know that spanking is harmful to children and counterproductive as well. There have been countless studies on the subject. When our sons were young my husband and I supervised them carefully and pulled them safely away from the dangers of hot stoves and traffic without the need for a "swat" which, as Diamond asserted, "…is the best way to teach a small child not to go near something." Our sons are grown now, fine young men with families of their own.
I was educated at a time when corporal punishment was acceptable in schools. I experienced it myself. When I began my teaching career in the 1960s there were paddles in the teachers' desk drawers in the public school where I taught. I never used them, or any other form of physical punishment in over 30 years of teaching in public and private schools. A successful parent or teacher can attest to the fact that there are peaceful, non-violent ways to achieve cooperation from children.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 26, 2007 at 7:54 pm
I would like to repeat my comments from earlier in the thread because I think they are useful.
I do agree that spanking a child to keep him away from danger is not a good idea and probably won't work. Keeping the danger away from the child is much more appropriate. I used harnesses on my young children so they wouldn't run into the road, used all kinds of safety equipment in the house including gates and playpens, and often put the dangerous things in the playpen rather than the child.
However, I do advocate spanking young children for two things. Firstly for deliberate defiance of my rules and authority. A child who constantly says "no" to me or defiantly does what they have been just been told not to do, just to see my reaction, definitely deserves a spank that brings them to tears and then they will remember who is in charge and why. Secondly, a child who deliberately hurt another child, either physically or in any other way, to cause harm or upset, also deserves to be spanked in the same way. I have had biters who never learnt that biting was wrong at school (pre-school) until in a different situation they were badly bitten by another child. They soon learnt that biting was not on. I have had children who think it is fun to take toys or food from their classmates, to see what the teacher would do. Time outs didn't work. They took pride in their time out, not having to do the craft or whatever they were supposed to be doing. The delight they told me in getting out of the classwork and fun was amazing. Realising that each time I was told by a teacher that they were in time-out at school for biting or spoiling someone's artwork meant that they would be spanked at home, soon stopped them from this habit.
No, I don't think spanking a child is the way to bring up children. Spankings should be rare, but occur in a fair manner. I always took my child into a private surrounding, explained calmly what they had done was wrong and spanked. When the tears came, I hugged them and told them that it was the behavior I didn't like, not them. I told them I loved them and that it was now over, but if the behavior was repeated, then the spanking would also be repeated.
I don't like to think of spanking as a teaching tool for all purposes, just as a punishment for something that is most definitely not acceptable. If you use spanking too often, then what do you do when a child does do something more serious. A child who knows that you will spank for serious situations can still explore and learn in a healthy manner, without being scared that almost anything they do could occasion them to be spanked.
Leave spankings for serious infringements and use other methods to train a child to look out for themselves when it comes to safety.
a resident of Community Center
on Jan 26, 2007 at 9:53 pm
I have respect for a parent of four kids - you speak from experience. Thanks.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 28, 2007 at 5:07 pm
Well Parent of 4, I have to disagree with you there. I don't as a parent, you should ever intend to give a spank that "brings them to tears and then they will remember who is in charge and why."
And as for doing it in a private setting, what happens when the child misbehaves in public? How do you react to that? However you do, SHOULD also be the way you do it at home. Would you wait until you got home and the spanked your child? Because I guarantee by then, he/she wont associate why they are getting hit now, with what they did earlier in the day.
And I don't mean to insult anyone here, but to Anonymous, generally just because someone has had 4 children, doesn't necessarily make them perfect parents! I do not have my own children yet. But I have taught young children from age 3-17 for over 6 years. And my fiance is a preschool teacher for over 7 years! we have been in contact with hundreds of children. So I believe that we have ample experience to say that spanking is wrong.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 28, 2007 at 9:12 pm
Thanks for your post. I will try to answer your points.
Bringing a child to tears is different for each child. I have one who cried as soon as she knew she was about to be spanked so that was not a very severe spank. I have one who stubbornly refused to cry until they had been spanked (no more than 3 times), left alone and I returned a few minutes later. I have another who needed to be spanked just once and the tears came straight away with plenty of remorse. I also have one who learnt that the tears meant no spanking so turned on the tap as a tool against me. I then had to use a more subtle approach. The point is not the severity of the spanking (it was never severe) just the point that I was the one in charge because I am the parent. I am showing that I am in charge because I am. This is not debating the issue with them or trying to bargain with them. It is showing them that their defiance or hurt towards another child will not be tolerated. As I said, this was a rare occasion when it happened and they knew that they were in the wrong.
Secondly, yes my children did misbehave in public, but I was always able to find somewhere more private to take them. I have walked out of grocery stores leaving a cart of groceries to take them to the car or a restroom. I have left the playground at the park and taking them behind a tree or somewhere less visible and calmly spanked. I have stopped the car and parked. I have just wanted less visibilty and somewhere that their friends do not see them being spanked, not for my fears but to make it less humiliating for them. I never waited until I got home. This would be much too late and I certainly never used the threat of "wait til you get home".
My child always knew why they were being spanked, because I told them why what they did was wrong. I always made sure that afterwards they understood that there were always consequences to their choice of bad behavior. I always told them it was the behavior I didn't like not them and always gave them a hug and told them it was now over and I loved them always.
I don't consider that I ever hit my child as you put it because I think that sounds as if I was angry and out of control. A spanking should never be done in anger and on many occasions when my children have made me angry I have told them to go to their rooms until I had calmed down and could talk to them properly (that was when they were older though and they certainly would not have forgotten what it was for).
I don't think I am a perfect parent. I do make mistakes. My children have often seen me cry, get upset and be angry. However, I think that the guidelines I set for myself are worth passing on. They worked for me and although my children are now older and still have their problems, I feel I am still learning how to parent.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 28, 2007 at 9:12 pm
Thanks for your post. I will try to answer your points.
Bringing a child to tears is different for each child. I have one who cried as soon as she knew she was about to be spanked so that was not a very severe spank. I have one who stubbornly refused to cry until they had been spanked (no more than 3 times), left alone and I returned a few minutes later. I have another who needed to be spanked just once and the tears came straight away with plenty of remorse. I also have one who learnt that the tears meant no spanking so turned on the tap as a tool against me. I then had to use a more subtle approach. The point is not the severity of the spanking (it was never severe) just the point that I was the one in charge because I am the parent. I am showing that I am in charge because I am. This is not debating the issue with them or trying to bargain with them. It is showing them that their defiance or hurt towards another child will not be tolerated. As I said, this was a rare occasion when it happened and they knew that they were in the wrong.
Secondly, yes my children did misbehave in public, but I was always able to find somewhere more private to take them. I have walked out of grocery stores leaving a cart of groceries to take them to the car or a restroom. I have left the playground at the park and taking them behind a tree or somewhere less visible and calmly spanked. I have stopped the car and parked. I have just wanted less visibilty and somewhere that their friends do not see them being spanked, not for my fears but to make it less humiliating for them. I never waited until I got home. This would be much too late and I certainly never used the threat of "wait til you get home".
My child always knew why they were being spanked, because I told them why what they did was wrong. I always made sure that afterwards they understood that there were always consequences to their choice of bad behavior. I always told them it was the behavior I didn't like not them and always gave them a hug and told them it was now over and I loved them always.
I don't consider that I ever hit my child as you put it because I think that sounds as if I was angry and out of control. A spanking should never be done in anger and on many occasions when my children have made me angry I have told them to go to their rooms until I had calmed down and could talk to them properly (that was when they were older though and they certainly would not have forgotten what it was for).
I don't think I am a perfect parent. I do make mistakes. My children have often seen me cry, get upset and be angry. However, I think that the guidelines I set for myself are worth passing on. They worked for me and although my children are now older and still have their problems, I feel I am still learning how to parent.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 29, 2007 at 9:33 am
I wrote the above last night when I was tired and I suppose I just tried to defend my self. On re-reading this morning I realise it sounds pretty terrible. I just want to say that most of what I was referring to above was not necessarily spanking, just dealing with a misbehaving child in public. When a child misbehaved at the park or a grocery store, or while I was driving, it was not usually an offence that deserved a spanking. However, it did deserve some action on my part and whether it was just a good talking to, or taking them out of a turbulent situation to cool off, I did take them to restrooms, the car or behind bushes for privacy. I do believe that situations should be dealt with quickly, calmly and appropriately. A temper tantrum in a grocery store can't be ignored, but the appropriate reaction is not a spanking but taking them out of the situation and waiting quietly until the child is ready to behave correctly, or putting off the errand are all ways of dealing with a situation. My kids picking fights with others at the park must be dealt with and seen to be dealt with and taking them home is not necessarily the right punishment. Each time a child misbehaves is different. Sometimes the child's misbehavior is not their own fault. I realised that taking a child from preschool straight to run errands was not a good idea for the child although it suited my schedule. Children need to be respected as much as we need them to respect us.
However, children, particularly preschoolers, must realise that a parent is the person in charge. This is a different role from a teacher who is only in charge for a certain period of time. A child must realise that a parent is always responsible for the child all the time, even when they are separated, and this is what makes for a family. Since a parent is responsible for providing shelter, food, protection, etc. for the child that makes them the responsible person for the child. If the child does not understand the word "responsible", then "in charge" is a way to describe it in a way they do understand. This is not a situation where we are trying to be bigger and therefore bully our children, but rather being responsible by showing that our responsibilities are to teach them how to become responsible adults and their responsibilities are to learn this so that they can ultimately teach this to their children. Even very young children can understand this concept.
And finally, I would like to add that no matter how much teacher training and experience somebody has, how many child development classes you have attended and how experienced you are with other people's children, it is not, can not and should not be the same as when eventually you have your own children. The old cliche of the child not having read the same manual as you, is true. I have worked in a child care facility before I had kids and I have volunteered in sunday school classrooms and youth clubs for teenagers. This is all very good experience, but is in no way comparable to having your own children. Being a parent is a 24/7 responsibility. You never have a day off and you never hand over the responsibility to anyone else. Even when you and your child are not together, you still worry about them and want to know how they are doing. You don't forget about a problem, hoping it will go away or that someone else will handle it.
That child is yours, from the moment they are handed to you in the delivery room, or wherever, until you die. Even when they turn 18, they are still your children and you don't turn your back on them. Once you are a parent, you are always a parent until you reach the grave. If you don't believe me, ask your own parents or grandparents.
Parenting is definitely an art and an art that can be learnt or improved. There is more than one way to go about it, but whatever method you try, be open to other ideas and let us all do our best.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 31, 2007 at 10:47 pm
thank you for your replys. I see that you are putting a lot of thought into this which makes for a great debate!:) I do agree, your first reply sounded pretty terrible. Especially to someone who doesnt believe spanking is ok. I agree with a lot of things you said in your second reply. Like being a parent is a 24/7 gig. And even after they turn 18, they are still your children. Watching my parents and the parents of the children who I have been in contact with, I can see how different parenting stylse can be. For example, my mother and father (who are divorced) are both good parents, but have different views on how to raise a child. My mother seems to think I am 7 years old, and I feel it will always be that way!:) My father decided to charge me rent when i was still living with him, and becuase I could not pay, I got kicked out! But I still love them both. Back to the issue, I strongly feel there is always a way to handle a misbehaving child without hitting. And youre right, its not "bulling our children." To me, it just seems like the easiest, and the quickest thing to do. It doesn't take the time to talk to your children, or give them a punishment and stick with it. Its getting a spank and problem gone... all better. It doesnt work like that. I believe that if you hit a child, it teaches them that it is OK to hit and seem to hit more in school and at home. I have seen parents who spank, then their children come the class and hit more and more. I have also heard what you said before... "it is not the same as when eventually you have your own children of your own" Oh boy... when I read that to my preschool teacher fiance, it got her blood boiling! She has taught hundreds of kids. Learning along the way. She learned through trial and error just like you, but with dozens and dozens of kids. Learning what works, and what doesnt along the way. She has have more experience than any parent should have. All parents have is the experence of thier own children, with their own parenting style. She gets to witness all the parenting styles and sees how they act in school and with others. And believe me, there is a HUGE difference. Sure its not the same as having your own children, but its not worse, and we think better. She has worked with babies from 3 months to kids 4 years old. And some older! She knows what to expect at every age and she knows what works and what doesnt. They dont allow perschool teachers to hit/spank the kids, they would be fired for that. So why is it a good idea for you?
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Feb 1, 2007 at 9:24 am
Cody, thank you for your comments.
I agree with a lot of what you say. However, I would like to say that spanking a child at the spur of the moment for some presumed misdemeanor is not what I am talking about. What I am saying is that a young child who is too young to understand much, knows what "no" means. If a parent has firm rules for behavior and uses the word "no" to a child who then forgets, or hasn't understood, then it should not be a time for a spanking. However, a child who knows they are doing wrong and blatantly goes ahead and does it anyway just to get a reaction from a parent (or a teacher) shouldn't be allowed to get away with that behavior. A talking too may do it for the first time, a time out may actually give the child power (e.g. the parent can't get on with doing chores or whatever else the child wants the parent's attention for). Taking the child into a private setting, explaining the infringement and a short calm spank, taking time for the child to get over it with tears and an apology, a hug and an assurance that they are loved, is a considerate way of coping with this.
From my experience, a great deal of children's misbehavior is due to one of several things. They are seeking attention at a time when it is not convenient - so make sure that they get plenty of attention at a more appropriate time. They are over-tired, or over-stimulated, or over fed on junk food, or hungry or bored from not being stimulated - so give them routine, healthy food and cut down on between meal snacks and regular mealtimes. If a child feels loved and valued, they can understand that if they choose to misbehave then the consequences are of their own choosing also. If a child does not feel loved or valued, if they feel that their parent would rather be somewhere else or doing something else rather than spending time with them, then the likelihood of them misbehaving is stronger.
I was brought up by parents who had great parenting skills when I was young, but due to circumstances in their own lives, changed dramatically when I was 12 or 13. At this stage I got very confused and hurt because I just didn't understand what I was supposed to be doing. The things I thought I was doing right seemed to them to be wrong and the things that they expected of me just didn't seem right in my eyes. As a consequence, I know that confusing a child is the one of the worst things you can do for them. Even very young children can tell when a parent is having a bad day and will play on that to get attention. Attention is not a bad thing, we need to give it to our children. Sometimes they are looking for attention because they are not getting enough, or the right type, and sometimes they are looking for attention because they are spoilt and used to getting their own way. The hard thing is to work out which it is and why, then treating the cause of the problem rather than punishing for the misbehavior rather than solving the underlying cause.
Finally, I know that you have a great deal of experience with children. I can also see that you have watched many parents deal with their children. I really do think that you will be great parents in due course. However, I think you will see your own children differently when you have them and realise that all your experience now is not the same as having your own.
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on Feb 6, 2007 at 8:17 pm
Diana, no posts for over two weeks?
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The north end of Garden of the Gods in Colorado Springs will be busy -- and loud -- as dump trucks haul away 150 loads of sediment deposited after flooding from Camp Creek last fall.
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just uploaded C3PO head pepakura model,
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Is this the unfolded file? Nice Job Bevbor this turned out Great!
Wow just looked through your flickr portfolio you are amazingly talented!!!
Thank you for sharing it!
Any plans to do the body parts?
I've edited the model in an attempt to make it more accurate and easier to build.
Download the A4 size here.
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Tempting but so many other files to do first.
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I don't remember where I got the other parts but I unfolded them for a person who is around 5'9. I would still recommend measuring yourself before printing out the files
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I'm definitely down for getting Ogletree
this kid would be a steal in the 2nd round IMO...my only concern is he looks to be another Will linebacker. We currently have 3 in Jacquian Williams, Boley, and Paysinger and if we re-sign Keith Rivers that makes 4. We need a run stuffing yet athletic MLB and a SLB. While Ogletree is extremely athletic I just don't think he has the size to be a MLB. I do like him though..
in his highlight clip at 4:40 did he run down a WR from behind? damn that kid can run lol