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Original post made by Emily Atwood, another community, on Mar 2, 2007
The community spoke out about what they would like to see at the site. Ideas included were all-weather, lighted fields for soccer, football and lacrosse; lighted tennis courts; open field areas; dog parks for big and small dogs; trail head and connections; and bird-watching areas.
Already scheduled on the property is a senior living facility to the west and an auto mall to the north.
What do you think should go at this site? Do you support the ice rink?
-- Emily Atwood, reporter for the Pleasanton Weekly
Comments (21)
a resident of Golden Eagle
on Mar 6, 2007 at 10:33 pm
I think it the ice rink is great idea. It is a facility that can be used by the whole family, young and old. It is a wonderful way to get folks involved in good physical activity and great way to keep young people off the steets in contructive acttivities.
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Mar 7, 2007 at 5:50 pm
I absolutely support the ice rinks. The only ice rink in the area (Dublin Iceland) is an embarrasment, with a leaking roof and hockey players and figure skates alike forced to change in the public lobby. There's never enough ice time for all the kids and adults who want to skate, and a facility like this would give everyone a chance to enjoy some healthy exercise in a family-friendly environment.
a resident of Mission Park
on Mar 8, 2007 at 9:32 am
I support the new San Jose Sharks Rink in Pleasanton.
People, we need facilities like this in the area. If we look at the people we have turned out in the past from the Bay area, such as skaters as Brian Botiano and Kristy Yamaguchi in the figure skating world. Also last year a Bay Area 12 and under team won the USA Hockey National Championship. San Jose State Mens ice hockey team is going to the ACHA National Tournament for the second straight year.
Then you have the USA Hockeys Womens and Girls National Tournament going on the weekends of 3/24-3/25 and 3/31-3/26. Teams from accross the US will being coming to capture a title they play for. Just think, that someday can be in the Pleasanton area with a state of the art facility the Sharks Management Group is willing to build.
I grew up playing at Dublin Iceland, played from the time I was 5 till I was 18. The rink has produced some great teams and we do have some great teams tis year that skate out of the rink, but its time to move forward as a city and look at what the new facility can bring us. The rink use to be the nicest in the area, but now it is far from being acceptable to the area. But it is time to move on and look at what a new facility can bring to the area.
Look in the Dallas Texas or the Phoenix Arizona area, both NHL teams have helped those areas build programs through out the local area. Both areas have built a High School Hockey League, and it rivals high school football right now. How would it look like on a FRiday Night in April going to watch Amador vs Foothill for a battle on the ice.... I think that would be great being a Amador Alum.
Please get behind this great opportunity we have as parents, players and figure skaters a like.
Catch you all on the ice.........
a resident of Hacienda Gardens
on Mar 16, 2007 at 2:44 pm
Why is everyone in Pleasanton obsessed with sports fields and centers? If any of you ever leave and experience the real world, as I have by going to college 3000 miles away, you will see how pathetic Pleasanton is in its lack of centers for arts and music. Pleasanton has no culture. Everyone thinks sports will make our children bright and well-cultured. Why not open a world-class museum instead of a world-class ice center? The city has more than enough sports facilities. Apparently, its just that all the rich folks in their SUVs don't want to drive more than a mile to drop off their kids at the park. As a singer I like once said, "lets cross the sea and get some CULTURE."
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Mar 22, 2007 at 1:10 pm
I absolutely agree that we need more centers for arts and music in Pleasanton, and am thrilled to hear that you have returned from abroad excited at the idea of helping make that happen. I hope you'll lend your passion to the campaign for the Art and Theater complex on Railroad Avenue and the push for a cultural center and outdoor ampitheater on the Bernal property.
In the meantime, I see nothing to prevent us from having a host of alternatives to the soccer-dominated culture of Pleasanton that forces families to drive to Fremont, San Jose, Walnut Creek, Berkeley and beyond to participate both in alternative sports like hockey and figure skating and in fine arts activities such as those you prefer.
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Mar 28, 2007 at 8:13 pm
I absolutely support an ice rink in Pleasanton. I've been to Logitech Ice a few times and would love to have a rink of that caliber in town, for me and for my family.
a resident of another community
on Apr 6, 2007 at 6:38 pm
Having grown up in Canada I am qualified to speak about the benefits of having ice skating facilities readily available. The biggest impact is on raising children. Canada with a population of only 25 million people has 3000 artificial ice surfaces. The US with 300 million people has only 1200 artificial ice surfaces. Canadians are so indoctrinated with NHL hockey that a very large per centage of kids there grow up playing recreational league or community rep travel team organized hockey until they are 18 years old and in some cases even older. But the mindset stays with them and they continue to play organized hockey in recreational leagues as adults. There is no comparable activity in this country which causes such a large number of people to focus on a participatory sport. The obvious benefit that this has on raising children is that it gives them an activity to focus their energy and interest on. In this country kids seem to be seeking role models that are counter culture figures. In Canada, playing hockey is definitely regarded as cool by everyone, young and old. Crime in Canada registers as a very tiny per centage compared to this country. It seems obvious that the hockey culture in Canada plays a significant role in achieving this outcome. The answer seems obvious build ice rinks.
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Apr 10, 2007 at 2:04 pm
Stacey Borsody is a registered user.
Build it! Pleasanton should be more than a bunch of excellent schools and expensive houses. Our youth are bored and so was I when I grew up here. I was sad to see the closure of the movie theatre. Why does Dublin get to have all the fun? But please also build the Stoneridge extension. How idiotic will it be to have a part of Pleasanton that was inaccessable to the own town (except for emergency vehicles and possibly busses)? Will my handicapped mother who isn't very mobile have to be driven on 580 and sit in that traffic just to reach the front entrance if she wanted to watch me play?
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Apr 10, 2007 at 2:07 pm
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Its ok for me to cause cut-through traffic in several other cities just to reach the quality ice rink in Redwood City with the quality adult hockey league program (in addition to spending all that gas) once a week but not ok if other people want to cut through our town.
a resident of Pleasanton Middle School
on Apr 12, 2007 at 4:08 pm
I moved away from Pleasanton to attend school as well. I've traveled the world to know that there is a happy medium. What we take for granted living here in Pleasanton are the open fields, the space to run and to fly a kite. As a child growing up here, I didnt appreciate the open fields and trees. During my studies and travel I realized that we do lack the abundance of museums. But the art inside of them is inspired by the outdoors and human subjects. Including the concrete jungle. But we have the luxury of driving to San Francisco or Oakland to enjoy these things. This is why we live in Pleasanton, not the city. To enjoy the outdoors, the open fields. Giving our children the oportunity to participate in sports or just plain picking flowers.
a resident of Downtown
on Apr 21, 2007 at 3:42 pm
I am against the "ice rink", herein named Stadium. Why, because cut-through traffic getting worse, dangers of intoxicated drivers after a sharks game, large stadium in a small town, wasted funding, rather than focusing on the traffic issues all around Pleasanton, especially the dowtown area (1st Street). Livermore residents cut through our streets to I-680, and back to Livermore. The funds should be a solution to this, like SR 84, etc. We need to also focus on the downtown area expansion, with a quaint movie theater, water falls, a dog park, additional restuarants other than mexican or Italian, and additional parking just to name a few. We are now competing with Livermore's privately funded make over, that Pleasanton passed on. We need to ensure real estate remains strong here. Pleasanton needs to continue to live up to the high price of living in this town. A stadium for the Sharks will only bring down the prices of homes surrounding this area. People will go to Livermore to get the peaceful atmosphere and beauty they lose if we go forward with this project. Look at San Jose, crowds, noise, vandalizm, lower priced homes in the stadium area. The great thing about Pleasanton, and why people want to live here, are the open spaces, surrounding hills and views, matured trees, wildlife preservation. We have enough sports fields, and keep in mind, adults live here too, we should not focus on just kid projects.
If I wanted to see large concrete structures or buildings, I will take advantage of the luxury of a short travel to San Francisco, or San Jose. This is why we live in Pleasanton, not the city.
a resident of Del Prado
on Apr 22, 2007 at 7:21 pm
I'm 100% for this ice center. Ice skating is great exercise for all ages. Ice time is not easy to come by. Building this facility will help make ice skating and hockey more available and affordable for all.
a resident of Ruby Hill
on Apr 23, 2007 at 1:00 pm
I can't believe there would be any hesitation to allow a NHL franchise to build a program in Pleasanton. Skating sports great for all ages and the last time I checked they were part of the Olympics!
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Apr 23, 2007 at 1:26 pm
What I can't believe is the ignorance with regards to what the proposed plan is. And then somehow Pleasanton is supposed to compete with Livermore in terms of high-priced living without adding such luxury facilities as an ice rink. The facility would be located near the freeway and would be consistent with Pleasanton's design. It would not detract from any peacefulness downtown considering it is about as far from downtown northwards as one could go.
a resident of Stoneridge
on May 1, 2007 at 1:28 pm
Why do so many of us see a huge meadow like Staples Ranch and think, "Man, we have go to do something with this...it is going to waste."?
Carving up Staples Ranch, paving it over, and squeezing every possible economic benefit out of it is a mistake. It is one small part of a dysfunctional relationship we have with the environment - think global warming, pollution, endangered species.
Why not find an abandoned commercial parcel in Oakland or elsewhere that needs to be redeveloped?
a resident of Foothill High School
on May 2, 2007 at 9:19 am
I built rink #4 and the lounge for the Sharks two years ago at Logitech. They are a first class organization and will only be a positive development for this area. We should jump on the opprutunity for this complex to be built in our town before they decide to build it in Livermore instead... Our kids deserve this facility...
a resident of Vintage Hills
on May 4, 2007 at 10:48 am
Having attended all of the council meetings and workshops on this topic, it is my understanding that this particular parcel of land will stay vacant for many years due to budget restraints. The auto dealerships and the senior living facility will be built, so Staples Ranch is not going to remain in it's present state. In the 9 years that my son has skated at Dublin Iceland there have not been any significant improvements made to meet the demand of those who pursue their love of ice sports. Iceland is a 30+ year old facility that has no nearby competition. This is a chance to get a first class facility at virtually no cost to the taxpayer and it will require no watering, mowing or fertilizing. Granted, it will be another box surrounded by pavement, but why not put in a facility that promotes physical fitness rather than another place to shop. There is the added benefit to the other sports communites in Pleasanton who will see the future constuction of needed sports and activity fields. This facility will give residents one more reason to be proud that they call Pleasanton their home.
a resident of Dublin
on May 19, 2007 at 1:42 pm
I fully support the building of this ice center. It will be a fantastic facility that will enhance the sense of community by allowing for families with common interests to gather.
It appears there is some confusion, the proposed ice center is NOT a stadium for the San Jose Sharks to play in as suggested by Gregory Appler on April 21st. It is a 4-rink complex supported by the San Jose Sharks organization. There will be NO dangers of intoxicated drivers after Sharks games because there will be no Sharks games. The Sharks play at in San Jose at the HP Pavillion. The ice center will NOT bring down the prices of homes surrounding this area and in fact will increase their values. For those unfamiliar with a 4-rinks complex, 4 ice surfaces are built under the same roof with modest seating (not 17000 people like HP Pavillion) to allow for simultaneous ice hockey games and/or figure skating use - a very effective approach for fostering a sense of community.
Also note that ice arenas are not 'kid projects'. Ice hockey may be new to many adults in the Bay Area because the Sharks only arrived in 1991 (although some of you may remember the Oakland Seals in the 70's). Demand for adult hockey leagues is going to grow as the kids who started playing because of the Sharks reach adulthood. The limited ice and lack of dressing rooms at the aging Dublin Iceland cannot support a full adult ice hockey league. A 4-rinks will enable this and make Pleasanton an even better place to live.
The ice center is a facility for families in Pleasanton and the Tri-valley to use and enjoy, not a 'stadium' for the San Jose Sharks. I support it 100%.
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Jul 19, 2007 at 10:42 pm
To Gregory Appler:
They aren't proposing to build a stadium. They want to duplicate what they have in San Jose. A four surface ice arena for recreational, figure skating, hockey, curling and speed skating purposes.
The Sharks play at the HP Pavilion in San Jose.
Get the facts straight first.
a resident of another community
on Mar 20, 2008 at 12:30 am
People don't get it. They want to build a rink in Pleasanton. Then people say that have to build soccer fields, basket ball courts, etc. They wouldn't want to build a rink if there were a hundred in the area. However, there are a hundred soccer fields and basketball courts in the area.
a resident of Livermore
on Jun 11, 2010 at 3:54 pm
**Posted by Gregory Appler, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Apr 21, 2007 at 3:42 pm
"I am against the "ice rink", herein named Stadium. Why, because cut-through traffic getting worse, dangers of intoxicated drivers after a sharks game, large stadium in a small town, wasted funding, rather than focusing on the traffic issues all around Pleasanton, especially the dowtown area (1st Street)."***
Its not a stadium... there will not be sharks games here. Just kids playing hockey, parents watching, little ones skating for the first time and great memories for everyone who takes part in a great place like this will be.
I have a permanent shoulder injury because of the lack of maintenance at dublin iceland. It is a dangerous place to play hockey and i cant wait for a safe place for my kids to play hockey and skate.
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posted at 10:01 pm on June 28, 2012 by Allahpundit
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I figured we'd wind down D-Day with a little extra motivation for everyone to turn out this fall. Who better than Nancy to provide it? The image of her gloating when the House passed ObamaCare, waving around that giant ceremonial gavel like it was the Lombardi Trophy, alone probably accounted for half the seats the GOP picked up in the midterms. A few more soundbites like this can probably deliver Ohio and Michigan.
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House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi on Thursday credited the late Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) with driving the success of the Democrats' healthcare law – even from his grave…
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Forget what I said about Pelosi's "victory" comment being a strong motivator; this is a strong motivator. Although, to be honest, I hope she's right. As an atheist, I have a keen interest in the bar for admission into heaven being low just in case I'm wrong about the hereafter. If a guy can leave a woman to drown and still make into heaven, where he's free to beam socialist inspiration into the minds of Democratic leaders, then dude, I'm in like flynn.
Oh, more good news: Pelosi forgot Brian Terry's name on the House floor today during the run-up to Holder's contempt vote. Maybe Teddy can straighten her out during their next seance.
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I hate the woman, but until conservatives play hard ball like she does, all one can do is wish we had an attack dog like her on our side.
rickyricardo on June 28, 2012 at 10:54 PM
We did, but the LSM and a plurality of Conservatives tore her down.
Dr. ZhivBlago on June 28, 2012 at 11:05 PM
I'm sad. It is a total victory for them. And it will spread for generations to come.
Stray Cat on June 28, 2012 at 11:14 PM
texgal on June 28, 2012 at 10:45 PM
jayhawkingeorgia on June 28, 2012 at 11:18 PM
We have to take this victory away from them. If we don't get out there and vote in huge numbers and get back the Senate, take the White House, and retain the House, then game over.
Green eyed Lady on June 28, 2012 at 10:16 PM
Amen! My thoughts exactly. If the (R) gets back the House, gets the Senate, and the Presidency, they have to act or I too am done with them all and will gladly vote third party.
Right now, I pay for my health insurance plan through my employer. Its a pretty good price, considering I guess because they buy in a group.
Under Obamacare, my employer will either just tell me they aren't going to offer health insurance anymore, or they will tell me I'm no longer an employee and I'll have to work for them as an independent contractor, which I really don't want to do, because I've gone down that road before and not crazy about being stuck with the self employment tax. It is a profit killer.
so thanks Nancy and co. I only pray that some day you and your buddies have to eat the equivalent of this sh*t sandwich you're putting me through. Thanks a ton for taking away my choices.
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sartana on June 28, 2012 at 10:31 PM
Was that actually written by "Drew M" of AOSHQ? He used to be the ultimate squish, but he's had some great posts over the past year or so.
Yes, Drew M (Ace of Spades) posted the GOP letter which I've and I'm sure others have been forwarding to the RNC and congressional Republicans.
Anyone here at Hot Gas want to do the same, feel free.
Green eyed Lady on June 28, 2012 at 11:35 PM
Another thing, where are all these doctors that are supposed to accept all these new patients? Won't it be fun trying to get an appointment. Better get your health issues taken care of now, while you still can.
fullogas on June 28, 2012 at 11:35 PM
Sorry Nancy. Unless he had a deathbed conversion, he's too busy wailing and gnashing to give a flip about any earthly accomplishments. His only agony is that there's nothing he can do to spare his still living friends and family from his fate.
AH_C on June 28, 2012 at 11:37 PM
Pelosi on the ObamaCare ruling: "Total victory"
So now I get why she Pelosi was so convinced that Obamacare would be upheld. She had Robert's backing her up.
There is no longer any law. There is only winning. Let us win, my friends.
xuyee on June 28, 2012 at 11:46 PM
If we don't get out there and vote in huge numbers and get back the Senate, take the White House, and retain the House, then game over.
Decoski on June 28, 2012 at 11:18 PM
Again, I think David Frum is a worm, but I do agree with him on this topic; we can get the numbers, but it won't matter. The right numbers of the wrong people are still not going to do the right thing – and the GOP continues to prove that for the most part, they are not the right people.
Get the WH, the House, and the Senate; there will still be enough worthless scumbags in the GOP Senate to torpedo repeal. In the end, they don't really want smaller government, they just want to be in charge of it.
I'm not speculating – look at them, look at the evidence. We castigate the libs for ignoring the evidence that what they want is folly. If you think GOP majorities are going to 'fix this', you, too, are ignoring the evidence.
Midas on June 28, 2012 at 11:51 PM
There would have been NO AMERICA if it were up to "WE" the current people. Spineless, whining, scardy cats that will not under any circumstances fight back against this tyranny.
TAXMAGEDDON has only just begun…… EPA will be a knocking at your door (wallet) for a breathing tax too.
ActinUpinTexas on June 28, 2012 at 11:58 PM
The world will be a better place win Maerose Prizzi kicks the bucket and burns forever in Botox hell.
Resist We Much on June 29, 2012 at 12:17 AM
We'll see. I want to see the poll numbers that come out after this "total victory".
I think it is going to be a total Pyrrhic victory.
crosspatch on June 29, 2012 at 12:18 AM
I wish this withered old lying hag would bet struck on the head by a meteorite.
The foul stench of her hypocrisy surely warrants some divine punishment.
Mr Galt on June 29, 2012 at 12:19 AM
Midas on June 28, 2012 at 11:51 PM
I have to be optimistic. This is our last chance to save the country. This too is the GOP's last chance to redeem itself or go the way of the Whigs.
Anyone who saw her talk (speechify) during the contempt hearings knows now that she is an absolute moonbat and is batshit crazy. Watching/listening to her is excruciating torture.
koaiko on June 29, 2012 at 1:11 AM
It's a toss up, who I despise more. This insane San Fransicko whackjob? Or our "beloved" Preezy?
rotorjoe on June 29, 2012 at 1:21 AM
I hate liberals so much. I will never hire one. I know you can't ask about political affiliation in an interview but I will try to find out and if I can't then I won't hire them. I won't even get my car worked on by one. I will even ask my waiter or waitress if he or she is a democrat and if they are, I won't leave a tip regardless of how good the service is. I will find out before I ever do business with one ever again. It's past time for these damn liberals to start paying a price because they are destroying the country.
Dollayo on June 29, 2012 at 1:22 AM
"Families, Families, Middle-Class!" is the mantra of the dems.
That's all Elizabeth Cherokee Warren says in answer to any question, remember?
What a bunch of baloney!
God d@"?! M&¥"!? F@&") SOBS!
And the same to you, Roberts!!
Sherman1864 on June 29, 2012 at 5:30 AM
This is why you're awesome, AP. You're an atheist who actually says "Just in case I'm wrong (about heaven)".
Wow. I've never read those words typed by an atheist. Ever.
Grace_is_sufficient on June 29, 2012 at 5:42 AM
"Total Victory" for me will be the day the people of San Francisco finally wise up and throw this vile evil witch out of office once and for all! If anything, Pelosi succeeded in firing me up personally yesterday, so that I will now work as hard as I can to insure that Obama is not re-elected in the fall and that the Democrats suffer the worst political defeat in their entire sordid history in the fall as well, so that we can turn full power back over to the Republicans and make sure this vile TAX is never allowed to see the light of day in 2014!
As for Chief Justice John Roberts, here is a new title for him to hang around his neck…………….COWARD!
pilamaye on June 29, 2012 at 5:58 AM
Pilamaye? I'm still holding secret hope that this sets Obamacare up for starvation. If the feds can't toss the costs of Medicaid on the states, then they can't hide the true costs. And a conservative Congress could unfund it and kill it off just as effectively as full repeal. And of course, a conservative Congress with fully developed gonads could do the full repeal thing.
Keep praying. But stock up on food, water and other necessities (especially the kind that come with a "caliber" stamped on them). Just in case.
Squiggy on June 29, 2012 at 6:17 AM
Arrrggghhh! Vote in November! Get these crazy people out of our government!
rockerpeople on June 29, 2012 at 6:59 AM
The only thing that really annoys me about this ruling is the inevitable boasting by the insane left.
Count to 10 on June 29, 2012 at 7:03 AM
Maybe Teddy can straighten her out during their next seance.
and by "straighten her out", do you mean "give her a ride in his Olds?"
ted c on June 29, 2012 at 7:35 AM
You know what would be a win for American families, Pelosi? Being able to use YOUR healthcare plan.
How about it?
Can we all trade places with you? And, YOU use the public craphole plan?
so-notbuyingit on June 29, 2012 at 7:49 AM
"I knew that when he left us he would go to heaven and help pass the bill," Pelosi told reporters in the Capitol. "And now he can rest in peace. His dream for America's families has become a reality."
There is no way that Teddy Kennedy is in heaven. There is a special place in hell for adulterers who also killed innocent human beings literally and figuratively.
Happy Nomad on June 29, 2012 at 7:58 AM
It's a toss up, who I despise more. This insane San Fransicko whackjob? Or our "beloved" Preezy?
rotorjoe on June 29, 2012 at 1:21 AM
You really feel the need to rank them? I just go with a unversal disgust for all of their ilk.
Happy Nomad on June 29, 2012 at 8:00 AM
The Dem's won this battle but will lose the war. Why? Because the Supreme Court had it right – the Mandate is a tax (Obama lied all along that it was not and still lies to this day it is not a tax). Also, the final part of this ruling was that, in sum and substance, if the majority of Americans do not like this health care bill than they can vote out the current elected officials in the WH. Come this November, this is what will actually happen. The Supreme Court just handed Romney the presidency on a silver platter. When he takes the WH, Romney (and the Republican controlled Congress) will repeal this health care bill.
Cherokee on June 29, 2012 at 8:13 AM
This is why you're awesome, AP. You're an atheist who actually says "Just in case I'm wrong (about heaven)".
Wow. I've never read those words typed by an atheist. Ever.
Grace_is_sufficient on June 29, 2012 at 5:42 AM
That's because AP is actually an agnostic.
Cherokee on June 29, 2012 at 8:16 AM
We have one last chance in November to avoid becoming the Peoples Republic of North America. Fail to do so and this once great nation is history. Who would have thought we would live to see the total demise of America?
rplat on June 29, 2012 at 8:38 AM
President Romney will call a press conference in the Rose Garden and announce that he is granting amnesty to the American taxpayer and will not enforce the IRS portion of the Obamacare law.
What will Nancy do then – try to tell the MSM that's illegal?
DublOh7 on June 29, 2012 at 9:32 AM
Chemicalpeelosi causes me to reconsider my residency in the Golden Goose State. I really hate it here. Colonel Crockett said it best in 1835 when his Congress was violating the Constitution:
"We have rights, as individuals, to give as much of our own money as we please to charity; but as members of Congress we have no right so to appropriate a dollar of public money."
~ David Crockett, Congressman 1827-35
So, I say to Chemicalpeelosi and her ilk:
"Ya'll can go to hell, I'm goin' [back] to Texas!"
texacalirose on June 29, 2012 at 9:47 AM
"I knew that when he left us he would go to heaven and help pass the bill,"
It's always amusing when Nancy takes a break from sponsoring abortionists and economically enslaving taxpayers in order to worship God. /sarc
Murf76 on June 29, 2012 at 10:14 AM
All assets not deemed necessary for the barest of existence will now be confiscated by your Government overlords. The Democrats have finally achieved their Century plus goal of destroying the American middle class.
aposematic on June 29, 2012 at 10:28 AM
Trying (trying!) to look at Pelosi objectively, setting aside all the loopy Bidenesque thoughtlessness, she is a prime example of "I got mine". She doesn't need to worry about health care because as long as she may be around her golden House benefits and personal wealth will always allow her to afford doctors. This shelters her from any view of the effects of what she has wrought on the rest of us. For American families this is a disaster. Doctors will grow ever more scarce, and so also expensive. Eventually we'll all be thrown into these exchanges, which for all intents and purposes will be public clinics with long waits, aging equipment and staffed by ever more disinterested personnel of dwindling ability.
Chief Justice Roberts says that the court is not responsible for protecting the electorate from the consequences of its choices, but somehow there needs to be protection from, just for instance, the mindless choices of the insane voters in Pelosi's district. Perhaps if term limits are not possible then at least a Constitutional Amendment limiting terms of leadership roles for candidates in ultra-safe districts. They contract a variation of the Senatoritis affliction. The seniority gives too much power and isolation for one person. It would be tough enough for people with strength and integrity, but it's at its worse with craven marginal personalities like a Pelosi or a Rangel. A phenomenon not foreseen by the genius founders.
curved space on June 29, 2012 at 10:31 AM
True, this may end as a victory for the American people yet Nancy. The story is not finished.
Bmore on June 29, 2012 at 10:34 AM
"Don't underestimate the power of $200M of total misrepresentation."
And if anybody knows anything about misrepresentation, it's SanFranNan.
Dopenstrange on June 29, 2012 at 11:02 AM
Nobody sane is arguing against health care reform, but the leviathan that is the PPACA is a monstrous government expansion/power grab that benefits mostly those who don't have to live under its draconian taxes and regulations. Proponents of the Supreme Court's decision to uphold the law argue that it will provide health care to millions who currently don't have it, but there are still tens of millions who will not be covered, and most of them are working adults. There are provisions in the law that many people like, such as children on their parents' health insurance to age twenty-six. But the more this 2000 page monstrosity sees the daylight, the more we find ourselves taxed, and taxed, and taxed for the privilege of being herded into a health care system that will increase costs, necessitate delays of service, and potentially codify denials of treatment.
We are taxed on our income, our investments, our inheritances, our purchases, and now, the SC says it's constitutional to tax us for what we don't buy. Whose interest does it serve to tax people for something they don't do? It most decidedly is not in the interest of the person being taxed. How the Court could find an individual government mandate, with the full weight of the IRS behind it, to buy something that we either don't want or don't need is beyond the pale of nanny state intervention into personal freedom. What shall they tax us on next, the fact that we didn't buy broccoli this week or that we didn't join a union (yes, that's all of you in states that have no "right to work" laws)? What happens to people like my son, who is twenty-two and works full time but doesn't have full benefits through his company? He can't really afford health insurance (he is currently on his father's policy) and doesn't qualify for Medicaid, so he will be taxed because he works for the wrong employer and isn't poor/unemployed. Again, whose interest does it serve to burden a population with such as this, and at a time when the country can least afford it? It most decidedly is not in the interest of those who are stuck with the tab.
If this law is so good, why was it necessary to pass it hastily, in the dead of night, behind closed doors, excluding Republicans from meetings and votes, using the nefarious process of "reconciliation," a misnomer for "end run around the people?" This is a 2000 page bill, for which innumerable regulations have yet to be written. Those in Congress who were being forced to voted on it admitted that they hadn't read it. Even then Speaker Nancy Pelosi said we would have "read it to find out what's in it." What?! Health care reform had waited for years and years, and suddenly it was wise and careful to pass an enormously complicated bill without so much as having read it? Really?! There are those of us out here in the voting public who are quite well informed and well educated who would have been happy to review the bill and publish an opinion on it. Why was it not posted and vetted by the public for 72 hours prior to a congressional vote, as President Obama had promised during his campaign? Because Democrats knew exactly what would happen if it was posted because public opinion was already against it. Pelosi was right in that we would have pass it before we could find out what was in it because they sure weren't going to tell us ahead of time.
So, unless Republicans can gain a majority in both houses and in the White House and repeal the PPACA, we are doomed to the already failed socialist policies under whose weight Europe is currently collapsing. Why do we continue to try this experiment "just one more time" to see if we can get it right? Why do people not learn the lesson of history that government, left to its own devices, can only grow and expand until it has complete control over people's lives? Well, this comes pretty close. Those who are in favor of this law will change their opinion pretty quickly once they are on the receiving end of an IRS audit for non-compliance because they thought it was all going to be "free." Check out the number of new IRS employees are being hired to enforce this law. If this is such a great law, why would it need such vigorous enforcement against a citizenry it ostensibly benefits? Again, whose interest is being served to throw the full weight of the government against ordinary citizens for breaking a law with which they can't comply? It most decidedly is not in the interest of those citizens who have to live under the weight of its oppressive mandate.
College Prof on June 29, 2012 at 11:10 AM
As an atheist, I have a keen interest in the bar for admission into heaven being low just in case I'm wrong about the hereafter.
SailorMark on June 29, 2012 at 12:00 PM
Folks, ObamaCare is a killer for innovation. It is already being felt among healthcare related startups who are seeking investment capital for life saving innovations and / or improve the quality of life. However, investment capital is drying up. We are impacting healthcare in significant ways some of which will not become evident for many years to come.
The medical device tax is an excise tax. Liberals are fond of behavior modification through excise taxes. For example, part of the rationale behind sin (excise) taxes on cigarettes or alchohol is that the added costs reduce consumption as well as a way or generating revenue for the state. Is the market for medical devices immune to the economic forces? Do device taxes not discourage innovation and entrepreneurial activity? Of course they do.
I recently put together a presentation to brief the CEO of a drug development company on the implications of ObamaCare. Contrary to common perception, the most innovative part of the healthcare occurs in smaller companies, not large corporations. Smaller companies tend to be better at innovation and the data supports this reality. However, small companies are the real losers of ObamaCare.
Having spent some time looking into this I'd like to share excerpts of my presentation to arm folks on the board and within our community with data and information. This is important stuff and we all need to get our head around what this all means and convey this information to others. If there is an interest from the community, I'd be happy to source the data and information. I know this is a little long and I will break it up into a number of posts. Obviously graphs can't be uploaded, but I hope some of this will be instructive.
R Square on June 29, 2012 at 12:08 PM
The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) ("Obamacare") was proposed as a way to bend the rising cost curve of healthcare and was signed into law by President Barack Obama on March 23, 2010.
Health care spending is growing at about 1.5x the rate of growth of GDP projected to reach $4.6 trillion and comprise 19.8 percent of GDP by 2020. The government-sponsored share of health spending is projected to increase from 45 percent in 2010 to about 50 percent by 2020.
PPACA relies on three primary mechanisms:
1) Increasing the pool of insured
2) Increased regulatory oversight
Comparative Effective Research (CER)
Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB)
3) Raising taxes
PPACA requires individuals not covered by employer- or government-sponsored insurance plans to maintain minimal essential health insurance coverage or pay a penalty unless exempted for religious beliefs or financial hardship, a provision commonly referred to as the individual mandate.
R Square on June 29, 2012 at 12:11 PM
The health reform law established the Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Institute (PCORI) as an independent advisory board with a $3 billion budget to support comparative effectiveness research.
Per its mandate, the PCORI will be responsible for "comparing options for prevention, diagnosis, and treatment for specific health problems; improving health care systems; informing patients and other stakeholders; addressing disparities among patient populations and health outcomes; and designing research to be patient-centered."
This federal body will undertake "comparative-effectiveness research" (CER) ostensibly to determine whether newer, more expensive treatments work as well as their older, cheaper counterparts.
4 Ways CER Impacts Innovation
1)CER will force producers to conduct internal CER trials to evaluate the efficacy of submitting their drugs or technologies for government review. All those additional tests will increase R&D costs.
2)As the government pays for about half of all medical care, the government is incentivized to favor older, less expensive forms of treatment over newer and more costly methods. This raises the risk of nonapproval or limited approval, both for federal coverage programs, and generally.
3)Research and development is often a lengthy process that is capital intensive and for which the benefit may not be realized for many years. The R&D process is more prone to political and budgetary pressures to deliver budget savings in the near term over long term health benefits.
4)CER will lengthen the amount of time required for a drug or medical technology to achieve regulatory approval. Each additional day a new treatment spends in limbo is a day it can't try to recapture its R&D costs through patent-protected exclusive sales.
According to researchers at the Tufts Center for the Study of Drug Development, the average drug takes $1.3 billion and about a decade to develop. About 30% of that cost comes during the clinical trial phase, when CER would have the greatest impact.
Pacific Research Institute's Dr. Ben Zycher indicates that the government-led CER process will depress investment in pharmaceutical and medical device research and development by 10% to 12% or about $10 billion per year
R Square on June 29, 2012 at 12:12 PM
Payment Advisory Board (IPAB), the fifteen presidential appointees tasked with finding and implementing ways to control Medicare spending from the top-down. The primary mechanism available to IPAB to control spending is to make adjustments to reimbursement and incentives for providers.
While IPAB is statutorily prohibited from "rationing," the statute includes no formal definition, and the board will still have to restrict access to providers, services, reduce reimbursements and/or treatments to hold down costs.
In short, IPAB opens the door to de facto rationing of care with less congressional oversight.
ObamaCare relies on three powerful levers to effectively regulate the healthcare market
1)A prolonged regulatory process which increases research and development process costs and uncertainty.
2)A determination on the relative value of new therapies and innovations and a mechanism to put downward pressure on economic incentives to develop them.
3)A medical device tax is the third lever by which government seeks to regulate the market.
R Square on June 29, 2012 at 12:14 PM
The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act ("Obamacare") imposes an excise tax of 2.3 percent on medical equipment and supply sales rather than profits. In other words, it cuts into the top line, not the bottom line.
The 2.3% excise tax will be levied on all types of medical devices, from heart stents and pacemakers to MRIs and ultrasounds. Because the new tax is on revenue, not profit, a small company that is not yet in the black would bear the biggest brunt. This tax will hit medical device companies especially hard in states that are leading the way in medical innovation; states like Pennsylvania, Minnesota, California, New York, and Massachusetts
Because incentives to invest in the research and development of new medical technologies are driven by perceived returns, the excise tax on durable medical equipment and medical supplies can be predicted to reduce such investment. The National Science Foundation estimates the excise tax will effectively reduce investment by about 10 percent annually, or about $2 billion during 2013 through 2020.
KPMG, the auditing firm, compiled a survey of 190 financial executives from the medical devices industry. The firm found that 40% of respondents said their companies are contemplating actions such as price increases and cost reductions, including layoffs.
The medical device industry employs an estimated 400,000 people. It is estimated that the device tax with reduce employment from 14,000-47,100.
R Square on June 29, 2012 at 12:15 PM
As syndicated columnist George Will observed:
"Cook Medical is no longer planning to open a U.S. factory a year. Boston Scientific, planning for a more than $100 million charge against earnings in 2013, recently built a $35 million research and development facility in Ireland and is building a $150 million factory in China. (Capital goes where it is welcome and stays where it is well-treated.)
Stryker Corp., based in Michigan, blames the tax for 1,000 layoffs. Zimmer, based in Indiana, is laying off 450 and taking a $50 million charge against earnings. Medtronic expects an annual charge against earnings of $175 million. Covidien, now based in Ireland, has cited the tax in explaining 200 layoffs and a decision to move some production to Costa Rica and Mexico. "
Venture capitalists are feeling less confident about making investments in 2012, with 58 percent of them predicting fewer investments in biopharmaceutical and medical device businesses, according to a national survey from the National Venture Capital Association.
"The landscape for medical devices is almost worse than bleak," said Todd Leonard, executive director of the Minnesota Angel Network said at the LifeScience Alley Conference earlier this month. "Traditional venture capitalists have really left the space."
Investors said they are reluctant to invest in new medical device start-ups in recent years because it's unclear how much time and money it will take to get a device approved.
Companies face an increasingly difficult regulatory and reimbursement environments, lengthy time to liquidity and the anemic IPO market.
Part of the problem is there are more CEOs that want to raise money in 2012 than there are investors able to give that amount of money. angel investor Mike Swenson "There is no capital."
Venture capitalists expect more money to go toward Internet technology businesses geared toward consumers, healthcare and businesses in 2012, according to the National Venture Capital Association survey.
In the past, Minnesota has ranked among the top 13 states in the amount of venture capital companies attracted, from in-state sources or not. Last year it ranked 20th, just ahead of Rhode Island.
Venture capital investment in Minnesota companies fell 48 percent in 2010 to $139.5 million, the lowest amount in 15 years of record keeping, according to the MoneyTree Report from the National Venture Capital Association and PwC.
Thanks for your indulgence but I think this stuff is important to know and share with others. These are the costs of ObamaCare and are quantifiable. We don't have to wait to begin to see its effects or have a reasonable understanding of how it will impact healthcare for people going forward.
We need to take this fight on. If anyone is interested in sources of the data and information, I'd be happy to provide it.
R Square on June 29, 2012 at 12:21 PM
Every time Pelosi smiles, a demon gets his horns
john1v6 on June 29, 2012 at 12:24 PM
How do I put this in a succinct and pithy way?….um, Nancy? STFUAD!!!!
neyney on June 29, 2012 at 12:38 PM
R Square on June 29, 2012 at 12:21 PM
Excellent post.
slickwillie2001 on June 29, 2012 at 12:40 PM
I sooner believe that Satan just gave Pol Pot a cool drink of ice water, and hearty well done.
orbitalair on June 29, 2012 at 12:53 PM
She's right, a total victory, she knew it was constitutional, however I don't remember her reasoning to have included the tax power.
rjoco1 on June 29, 2012 at 12:56 PM
Excellent post.
slickwillie2001 on June 29, 2012 at 12:40 PM
Thanks. I know it is long but I sincerely believe we collectively need to dig in to the minutia so we can understand the long term quality of care costs associated with the bill.
It is easy to make simple comparisons to suggest that we over pay for healthcare. A common metric is the percentage of GDP spent on healthcare. Sudan pays less for healthcare as a percentage of GDP than the US but I don't think anyone finds that comparison instructive.
What is suggested is that there is profiteering occurring and somehow we can change the market dynamics and still get the same or greater level of care. To substantiate this claim, folks frequently point to countries with more socialized healthcare systems, Canada, the UK etc…
Collectively we pay more but we also have better access to goods and services. This is quantifiable in terms of the number of cat scanners per one thousand, number of life saving and quality of life procedures, access to new and improved drug therapies, physicians per thousand etc….
We also enjoy an entrepreneurial culture that is the envy of the world and this includes healthcare and we are killing it. The cost will be born over the coming years primarily by the middle class in the form of more deaths and reduced quality care.
Once you begin killing off the healthcare industry and transforming it into an arm of the government, how do you revive it once you realize you've made a terrible mistake?
R Square on June 29, 2012 at 1:12 PM
She's right, a total victory, she knew it was constitutional, however I don't remember her reasoning to have included the tax power.
rjoco1 on June 29, 2012 at 12:56 PM
This bill was unconstitutional as it was presented, period. 5 Justices stated that the entire bill was unconstitutional on the grounds it was written and argued. It was only through the concoction of Roberts that he found a needle through which he could tread this camel.
Roberts is a judicial activist.
R Square on June 29, 2012 at 1:18 PM
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi on Thursday credited the late Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) with driving the success of the Democrats' healthcare law – even from his grave…
"I knew that when he left us he would go to heaven and help pass the bill," Pelosi told reporters in the Capitol.
It wasn't Teddy Kennedy who cast the 60th vote for cloture on Christmas Eve 2009. The only reason the Democrats reached 60 votes for cloture was because they changed the rules that Teddy Kennedy himself had pushed for in MA, and allowed the Democrat Governor to appoint Paul Kirk to fill the "Kennedy Seat" and cast a vote in favor of cloture. The voteres of MA, once given the chance, replaced Kirk with Scott Brown. If Kennedy's original wishes had been carried out, Paul Kirk never would have been a Senator, and the Democrats never would have had 60 votes for cloture on Obamacare.
ITguy on June 29, 2012 at 2:58 PM
Pelosi did not comment on any influence Mary Jo Kopechne may have had on the outcome.
The sad thing is Ms. Pelosi is exempt from ObamaCare.
TimBuk3 on June 30, 2012 at 11:52 AM


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Study Framework and Data Collection
A conceptual framework was developed to guide all aspects of the study. After examining the research on issues related to charter school facilities funding and finance, a study scope was developed and refined with input from the project's expert advisory group. Although the conceptual framework was later collapsed to include only three categories, it initially included four major categories of state-level charter school facilities assistance: direct cash assistance for facilities; ability to borrow money for facilities, including participation in tax-exempt bonds; participation of charter schools in Qualified Zone Academy Bonds (QZABs); and mandated district provision of facilities.
The third category, related to QZABs, was later integrated as a subset of the second one, and the fourth category was broadened to include district provision of facilities to charter schools irrespective of whether it is mandated or not. Therefore, the final three categories of focus were
- Direct cash assistance for facilities;
- Ability to borrow money; and
- District provision of school facilities.
Semi-structured interviews, which involve posing a common set of questions with some flexibility for the interviewer to probe based on each interviewee's responses and the context of their particular jurisdiction, were conducted by phone with state policymakers and key staff from statelevel charter school associations and networks in each of the selected case study sites. Across the selected states, 21 interviews were conducted with 27 respondents. A wide range of state representatives was interviewed, including staff of state charter associations and resource centers, staff of public conduits issuing bonds on behalf of charter schools, financial experts within state departments, and staff working in charter offices within state departments of education. Key interviews were digitally recorded to ensure accuracy in capturing quotations.
Once a respondent agreed to an interview time, the research team e-mailed a list of topics to be discussed so that he or she could review the topics prior to the interview. This step provided the respondents the opportunity to gather information for questions for which they might not readily have answers. In addition, the research team e-mailed a fact sheet on the state that included relevant data from the 2007 Charter School Facility Finance Landscape report by Local Initiatives Support Corporation (LISC). This report provides a listing of the financing options available for charter facilities nationally, and includes descriptions of many of the statelevel programs featured in this guide. At the beginning of each interview, the research team asked the respondent whether the profile represented on the fact sheet seemed accurate. The team then proceeded with the remainder of the interview questions developed for this study.
These questions were tailored to the particular form of assistance and to the specifics of policies in the state or jurisdiction. In cases where a respondent was unable to respond to a question, the interviewer would clarify the question by posing it in a different way or using additional probes. If the respondent was still uncertain, the interviewer then asked him or her to refer the research team to another contact that would be better able to speak to the issue. As necessary, interviews also were conducted in parts. In some cases, the research team received an initial response, consulted with the internal team or advisors for clarification, and then asked additional questions to obtain further information via e-mail and phone follow-up.
The research team also contacted a small number of charter school operators suggested by state informants due to the operators' savvy in implementing the various forms of facilities assistance policies profiled in this guide. These schools are featured in this guide to give a fuller picture of how the abstract state policies and programs described can function most effectively in practice.


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I went to do a cut out on this hive, of which I can"t get all the bees and will have to seal them in monday, and when I got home and was installing them I noticed these bees and noticed the different colors. Help me understand, are these different breeds of bees or what gives?
thanks.... I was about 85% sure thats what it was.
Keep in mind a queen breeds with multiple drone so the colors can vary a lot.
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People have understood why the nominally dark side of the Moon glows dimly ever since Leonardo da Vinci first discerned the cause: illumination by earthlight. In the 1920s, French astronomers exploited this phenomenon to measure the fraction of sunlight hitting our planet that is reflected back into space, an important physical quantity known as the Earth's albedo. Now a team of astronomers working at the Big Bear Solar Observatory in California has revived and modernized this technique in an effort to track long-term changes in planetary reflectivity, which could be an important influence on global climate. Their first publication on the subject appeared in the May 1 issue of Geophysical Research Letters.
The general prescription for measuring albedo in this way is simple: Pick two places on opposite sides of the near hemisphere of the Moon, one located close to the eastern edge of the lunar disk, one close to the western edge. Then when the Moon is partially full, one of these locales will be awash in sunlight, and the other bathed only weakly by earthlight. Comparing the brightness of the two spots (and taking into account such things as the intrinsic difference in reflectivity between the two chosen lunar sites and the area of the Earth reflecting light toward the Moon) gives a convenient measure of albedo.
Although orbiting satellites can also be employed to gauge the Earth's reflectivity, their use is problematic for several reasons. Typical satellite views are expansive but not global, so they only provide albedo measurements for the swath of the Earth over which they pass. Also, the optical sensors carried into space tend to degrade with time, and thus it is difficult to maintain an accurate calibration over the long term. And, as Philip Goode (the lead investigator on the new work) noted to NASA when he proposed to perform albedo measurements from the ground, "the enterprise is far, far cheaper!"
It is inexpensive, of course, because nothing other than the Moon needs to be hurtling through space. Indeed, the hardware requirements for an observation are quite simple. The Big Bear investigators used a telescope of only modest size—a 6-inch refractor. They imaged the Moon with an electronic sensor (a standard charged-coupled device) by alternately inserting and removing a filter that diminished the amount of light by a factor of about 100,000. This maneuver allowed them to obtain images that appeared similarly bright for both the sunlit and earthlit portions of the Moon. They then measured the intensity of light from the two chosen spots for a total of 270 nights (72 in 1994 and '95; 198 between 1998 and 2000).
These albedo measurements showed the expected seasonal variations, with cloudy skies producing high values of albedo. But they also revealed a longer-term change of about 2.5 percent over half a decade. During the earlier measurement campaign, the Sun was at a minimum in its 11-year cycle of activity, whereas the more recent measurements were taken as the Sun approached a maximum. The investigators were quick to point out that their findings, with the Earth reflecting more sunlight during a solar minimum and less during a solar maximum, support a theory put forth in 1997 by Henrik Svensmark and Eigil Friis-Christensen of the Danish Space Research Institute, who linked cloudiness with solar activity.
Their theory invokes a series of plausible if not completely confirmed physical connections. Solar activity modulates the flux of galactic cosmic rays impinging on the Earth (a well-known phenomenon), and these cosmic rays create ions in the atmosphere, which in turn provide condensation centers for cloud droplets to form. So according to the Danish hypothesis, one would expect periods of minimal solar activity (maximal cosmic-ray flux and ions) to coincide with enhanced global cloudiness. This is just what the new albedo measurements show.
There are, however, reasons to think that the correspondence may have come about for different reasons. One complication is that cosmic rays should, in principle, produce their greatest effects at high latitudes, where shielding of these charged particles by the Earth's magnetic field is weakest. Yet the measurements of albedo from earthlight for the most part sense the reflectivity of low-latitude zones, a consequence of the viewing geometry, because the Moon is situated roughly in the Earth's equatorial plane.
Perhaps, as Goode and his colleagues point out—and as Paul Farrar, a physical oceanographer at the Naval Oceanographic Office in Bay St. Louis, Mississippi, has before argued—large differences in equatorial cloudiness may simply be the result of changes in El Niño conditions over the Pacific. The first round of albedo measurements were taken during a protracted El Niño, whereas the latter set were obtained while more typical oceanographic conditions prevailed. Further observations from the Big Bear Observatory over the next solar cycle should help discern whether the sea or the Sun really drives changes in cloudiness. But whatever the root cause, it is impressive to think that such climatological shifts are reflected, quite literally, in the face of the Moon.—David Schneider
You can find this online at http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/num2/2001/7/moonbounce/1
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Duplex Apartment in Malaga Center
Size61 m²
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Loft style duplex apartment recently built with a modern design and decoration for up to 4 guests (2 bedrooms). The apartment has a surface of 61 m2. On the upper level there is a bedroom with a private terrace; on lower level you will find the other bedroom, bathroom, kitchen and living room.
The upper floor bedroom has a double bed, closet and an small private terrace (please read house rules about terrace usage).
The lower floor bedroom has also a double bed, closet and is located next to the bathroom.
Kitchen is fully equipped with fridge-freezer, washing machine, stove, bread toaster, Italian coffee maker and kettle. Complete crockery and cutlery, pots and pans.
A blow dryer can be found at the bathroom.
Apartment has wifi internet access, air conditioning (hot and cold), wooden floor and double glass windows.
House rulesKeys will be given, in person, to the guests the same day of their check-in date.
Lost keys have a replacement fee of 20€.
Check in, from 2.00 pm.
Check out, until 12.00.
If possible, check in and out time could be flexible.
Arrivals after 22.30 have an extra charge of 20€.
Arrivals after 00.00 have an extra charge of 30€.
Smoking is not allowed.
Pets are not allowed.
Only registered guests can access to the apartment. It is forbidden that other people access to the apartment without our permission.
No parties, loud music or noise. Please respect other guest´s rest.
If using the patio during the night, please do not talk loud, play music... It could bother other guests in the building.
It is not allowed to cook in the terrace.
A 150€ guarantee deposit will be asked at the arrival. It will be returned at the checkout if everything is ok with apartment.
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Modern apartment recently refurbished, comfortable bed and armchairs, all features exactly as shown on website. Efficient heating/air conditioning unit. Located in the old town only a few metres from shops, cafes, restaurants, etc and convenient for museums, market and most of the interesting features of Malaga. Fede, the host, has prepared a useful map with the locations of recommended bars, restaurants and supermarket. A good place to stay.
We had a warm welcome by Fede which was great. The appartement is very comfortabele, has great space, great beds and great shower. The locations is also really nice. The cosy, local beaches of El Palo with nice restaurants and a small supermarket around the corner. By car or taxi (not too expensive) Malaga is only 15 minutes away. The only 'comment' I would have is that some more glasses, plates, bowls and such would be beter. We really had a great time and would love to go back soon!!
We have a great stay in Malaga. The apartment has a very good location and has everything we needed. It's near to the beach with fantastic view. We were a group of friends and the apartment was big enough. It was very clean with two bathrooms which was perfect for us. Fede is the perfect host. At our arrival we were lost in Malaga as we arrived by car and the navigation didn't work. Fede helped us to find the apartment. He also gave us a lot of helpful information about Malaga in general and the district where the apartment is situated. He recommended us a really nice restaurant near the apartment and even explained us how we could go to Granada and Ronda.
I definitely recommend the apartment.
Thanks, Fede!
Very nice apartment, situated in the center of the city. There is everything, what you need for a comfortable staying, it's clean and fresh.
Fede was always present and ready to give all necessary information and help! We R setisfaed with our holiday in this flat for 100%!
Thank you, Fede, for your hospitality and kindness!
It was great in Malaga. Fede is a very friendly man. He said us, nice places in Malaga. He give us a copy from a little city map. When we needed help in the flat, he came and helped us. If we fly over again to Malaga, I would book again fede his flats.
We, two girls from Holland had a wonderfull stay at this appartment.. Fede is a real good host from the beginning till the end.. He also told us the do's and the dont's. The appartment is really clean en nice decorated.. We loved our stay really much.. You have everything you need, from a nice bed, arcodition, to a washingmachine..
You stay in the historic centre and you can do anything by foot; to see the nice centre, the beach.
If i go back to malaga, i would like to go to this appartment again. In my eyes it was the perfect appartment, for the perfect vacantion.
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The apartment was great. Very clean and new. The two of us stayed for about one month and had everything we needed. The kitchen was fully equipped so we could eat-in. We couldn't ask for a better location. It is safe, very close to Plaza de la Merced (2-3 minute walk). We were able to walk to just about everything in about 10 minutes. Fede was a great host and was there to answer questions and help as needed. His WiFi Internet works good if you just need to check email and surf the web on occasion but wasn't great for those who need to work. He is going to have someone come in and take a look at it soon, so I expect it will get better. I highly recommend this apartment. We will most definitely stay at Fede's place again when we're in Malaga next time. Thanks Fede for all the recommendations - we loved our stay in Malaga!!
FANTASTIC APARTMENT : a very good location and very friendly and helpful welcome! Regarding price-quality this apartment is absolutely highly recommended!
Neat and well equipped apartment with beautiful view of beach and sea.
Disadvantage much noise from the busy street. Double bed on the narrow side.
Netjes en goed uitgerust appartement met mooi zicht op strand en zee.
Nadeel veel geluid van de drukke straat. Tweepersoonsbed aan de smalle kant.
We spent a wonderful week in this apartment in Virginia Beach. It was near the beach, the park for our granddaughters, restaurants, especially seafood pezcados, and shops and the bus to the center of Malaga.
We found the apartment comfortable and well equipped with all the facilities expected. Our host gave us the information needed to enjoy our stay and had left some snacks, which was very helpful as we arrived late from the airport. It was also very friendly and gave us a very warm welcome.
I can recommend the apartment for any family that wants to spend a holiday with access to the sea, the beach and the city.
Pasamos una semana maravillosa en este apartamento en Playa Virginia. Era cerca la playa, el parque para nuestras nietas, restaurantes, especialmente de pezcados y mariscos, y tiendas y también el autobús hasta el centro de Málaga.
Encontramos el apartamento comodo y muy bien equipado con todas las facilidades que esperabamos. Nuestro anfitrión nos dio la información necesaria para disfrutar de nuestra estancia y había dejado unas snacks, lo que era muy útil como llegamos tarde desde el aeropuerto. Era también muy amable y nos dio un bienvenido muy acogedor.
Puedo recomendar el apartamento para cualquier familia que quiere pasar unas vacaciones con acceso al mar, la playa y la ciudad.
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When did you start running, and why?
I started running in November 2007. The unhealthy lifestyle I led through my 20s had started to catch up to me at 31. Running was never anything I envisioned myself doing. Thinking about going out for a run for fun gave me the shivers. I was going to the gym, doing the elliptical, and it was just starting to get boring. Then, one day, I thought, Maybe I'll try a run. I'll try to run two miles. Then I tried two and a half, then three. Then, it was, Let's see if I can run four. At that point, I started to run outside. Becoming a runner coincided with me shedding some unhealthy habits. I used to be a heavy drinker, and I quit at the same time I picked up running. I felt it was best to trade an unhealthy habit for a healthy one.
How did those first runs feel?
My body hated me. It was as if my body was saying, "I thought we had a deal here. You don't do this kind of stuff." I had to wage a war of attrition with my own body. One day, my knee would hurt. The next day, my ankles would hurt, then my shins would hurt. That went on for months. Every day, some kind of ailment came up, some new ache or pain in my body. The only reason I kept going was because I was so stubborn. I had made a decision that I was going to be a runner, and I was going to be a runner. I wasn't running through injury, just pain. It took six months for the first mile not to be the worst feeling in the world. Getting past that first mile every day was a trying experience. Now, I've been running for long enough that my body's, like, excited to go out for a run. It's like taking a dog for a walk--I put my running shoes on and my body says, "Oh, good, we're going to do this!"
Do you remember the first run when things started to click for you?
I think it was three or four months after I started to run. I had just stretched past four miles for the first time. I was running outside, and I ran on this path around my apartment in Seattle, and I just had a burst of endorphins, that runner's high everyone talks about. Once I felt that, I thought, This is what people are talking about! I had to earn it. It wasn't just going to come out on those early runs. It was that euphoric point everyone talks about. And like so many drugs, your next high is never as high as your first time, so you're left chasing that initial high.
At what point did you decide to run a marathon, and why?
I had spent three years running mostly low mileages, maybe 20 to 25 miles per week. Then I was running six days a week, four or five miles a day, and then I stretched that out a little more. I needed motivation. I needed a structure for my training. I couldn't arbitrarily decide, "Friday, I'm going to run 10 miles for no good reason." The L.A. Marathon is in March. The hardest thing for me is, we're usually traveling and touring so much, I can't fit long runs in. But we were just finishing up Codes and Keys, and there's a period after we finish recording, while the record is being mixed, before the record comes out. We're not really writing songs then, so I had some time on my hands. I discovered that this is something I can do. I was home in L.A. the vast majority of the time. So I bought a book on marathoning and followed the training regimen. I did it by myself. I didn't have a partner. I followed the training plan rather rigorously. I really enjoyed it. The anticipation leading up to the actual marathon was really exciting. I would do my long runs on Fridays. I really relished getting up at 5 a.m., having a big breakfast, then taking off by myself, running through Griffith Park, Burbank, The Valley. It was nice to be out doing something, getting up so early to take on this challenge that not a lot of people take on.
Tell me about the marathon itself--what was it like? What surprised you about it? What was your time, and were you happy with it?
The day of the L.A. Marathon, the weather was the worst on record. I was basically running in a monsoon the whole day. My shoes and socks and all my clothes--everything was soaked to the bone. Attached to this very difficult thing--running a marathon--we were all doing it after basically jumping in a pool. Plus, my shoes were totally soaked. At points along the path, there were three or four inches of standing water.
On the positive side, it was really an amazing experience to be running through my adopted hometown. The L.A. Marathon runs through all these neighborhoods, and to travel through them on foot is really a rare thing in L.A. I loved seeing all the people from every neighborhood out cheering, even in the rain, handing out orange slices and water.
Now, I'll drive through a part of L.A. that was on the course, and I'll get a wave of nostalgia. I'll think, I remember running down Robertson. There's where I met that English guy. It's a great way to see the city. On Wilshire, around mile 19 or 20, I hit this wall where I had to kind of swallow my pride and walk a little to get my strength back. That happened between 19 and 20, and 21 and 22. I felt kind of weak. But even through all of that, I kept a strong enough pace that I came in under four hours [3:56:34]. In all my training, my pacing made me think--I was hoping to kind of end up around 3:30. But I didn't take environmental factors into consideration. I also didn't consider the reality of the fact that this was my first marathon. I did what a lot of rookies do, and I got caught up in the adrenaline early on. When I got to the point that extended past my longest long run, there were all these climbs. That's exactly at the moment where I started to lose my mojo. That took me down a bit.
All in all, it was an incredible experience. By the time I finished, it was a really powerful experience. I don't mean to sound hyperbolic, but it really did change my life. I'm not the kind of person who ever, five years ago, would've dreamed of doing something like this. The sense of accomplishment was just overwhelming. It made me realize anything is possible. We often end up on these long tours, when we're away from home, playing shows, doing press, getting sick, missing people back home--wives, or kids for some of us. I started to look at what I do for a living through the lens of doing a marathon. The marathon was the most difficult thing I've done in my life. To get through that, it made me realize I can get through anything. It really did shift something in my brain, flipped a switch I didn't even realize was there. Whenever someone I know says, "I could never do that." I think: That's exactly what I thought! It proves anyone can do it. Are you tempted to do another?
I got kind of cocky during my training, and I'd say, "I think I'll do two marathons a year. This will be my new thing." This, before I'd done one. By the time I got to the finish line, I reconsidered that. The finish line at a marathon is like a triage center. People are falling all over the place. I tried to sit down. There are people whose job it is to get people like me cleared away from the finish line, and they came up to me, like, "Do you want a cookie? Do you want a blanket?" I was like a little kid, I was so exhausted. For the next three or four days, I could barely walk. My legs were on fire. I lost a couple toenails.
I may make it kind of a thing that after finishing a record, I run a marathon to set the stage for what the next block of promotions and touring is going to mean. But it's nothing I feel I need to do again anytime in the next six to eight months.
The band actually carries a treadmill on tour now. We have a semi truck full of gear, and we have a treadmill. Nick Harmer, our bass guitarist, is also a runner, and we'll get up in the morning and both be jockeying to run on it. We realized that if we took the amount of money we used to spend on one tour in booze alone, we could easily buy a treadmill we could use on tour. We used to spend $300, $400 per night in booze.
Do you ever skip the treadmill and run to explore the cities you're on tour in on foot?
If I'm in a place I know, sure. In Chicago, I run along the lake. In New York, I'll run along the West Side Highway. But in certain cities, when we're playing at venues in some weird part of town, I don't just run out in one direction. And if you plan a route for multiple miles, you have to take time to plan it and map it beforehand. When I wake up, the first thing I want is coffee. Then, once I get jacked up on caffeine, I want to go for a run. The treadmill helps me stay on the safe side. I have a treadmill at home, too. But for the most part, I run outside. I like feeling the landscape pass by.
Do you have a favorite route?
In Seattle, I love running at Lake Washington. If you start at Capitol Hill, it's a trek, but you can run up and down hills to get to the lake. Once you get to the lake, it's a nice, long, flat run. You can run down there, run around Seward Park, then run back. Or you can drive the three or four miles down there. I also like running around Discovery Park in Seattle.
I like running in Griffith Park in L.A. You can do a street run by staying along the path and following the road, but you can also duck up into the hills if you're feeling adventurous. There are miles and miles of trails through the hills. You definitely need enough water and a running buddy with you. I like Griffith Park because you get the best of both worlds. You can stick to the roads, or you can go off the beaten path and get some really great views of the city.
Do you run with music? If so, what's on your playlist?
I usually end up listening to a long, extended running playlist that I keep adding to. There are at least a thousand songs on it. Or, I'll listen to baseball podcasts. Those are the two things I toggle through: ESPN Baseball Today, or my own random playlist. Sometimes, I preview records I just bought. Today, I went for a run, and I listened to the newest Seasons record, my friend's band.
Is there a song you listen to when you really need to pump yourself up?
Somebody on the Internet did a mashup of Ludacris and a song by She & Him, "Sentimental Mouths." The vocals are She & Him, but they put it with Ludacris, and it's a totally triumphant thing for me to run to. Whenever "Burning Inside" by Ministry comes on, I get kind of excited. The first song I listened to in the marathon was by a Seattle hip-hop group called LazerBeam. I listened to it 10 or 15 times. It was exactly the right tempo for the speed I was going.
Have you ever found inspiration for a song on a run? Do you think about your own music while you're running?
A little bit. Sometimes when we're working on a record, I'll listen to mixes and think about how it's sounding or how it felt. But for the most part, no. One of my favorite books is Haruki Murakami's What I Talk About When I Talk About Running. To me, it so encapsulates what it means to be a runner and a creative person. He says writers have these bad habits, and that writing is, in and of itself, kind of a bad habit. You sit around alone for hours, dredging up your innards, and trying to make them into stories or songs. He says to balance out that bad habit, you need other, healthy habits. Running is that for me. So, to paraphrase him, What do I think about when I'm running? I think of nothing. My brain is always going, all the time when I'm not running. I need that time to just focus on the mechanics of my own body.
How is running like songwriting? How is it different?
Running and songwriting share a similar principle in that, if you've reached a hard part, you kind of have to work through it. When it doesn't feel good, you have to work through it. Every time you pick up an instrument to write a song, you're not going to feel incredible. How you transcend that difficult part--the part where a wall goes up--as a runner or a musician, defines who you are. If you walk away, you may be leaving a brilliant idea before it's come to fruition. Maybe once you work through that wall, you could be onto something great. It could also not be that great. Some of the songs I'm most proud of, I wrote in 15 minutes. Others took two weeks, and came after I broke through the walls that were up in those songs for me.
Being a runner--especially in running a marathon--means you have to overcome that wall. You may walk a little, but at the same time, you have to get to the finish line. There's no cab that's going to take you home. That same principle is very present in being a songwriter. When you have those uninspired moments, you have to power through them. You have to see how they work out.
Is it true that you wanted to beat Flea [of the Red Hot Chili Peppers] in the L.A. Marathon?
My goal was to beat Flea. He got me by about four minutes. We have mutual friends in common. I saw him after the marathon, and Flea said, "Wow, that wasn't easy." I said, "Yeah. Wow, that wasn't easy." I don't think we should underestimate what good shape Flea is in--clearly better shape than I am. Although, he had a friend running with him the last four miles, which may have given him the upper hand. All joking aside, he's a great guy, and he was raising money for a great cause.


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Happy Thanksgiving everyone! No doubt the holiday conjures ideas of turkey and pumpkin pie, but not this one... I went to my Indian roommate's home for the break and had authentic indian food for days- it was DELICIOUS. Both Northern and Southern styles of cooking too- lucky me!
We stayed at her home in San Jose, which is an adorable really American little house in a suburb that is what I imagine when I think of American suburbia. The first night we had Thai food for dinner before I headed to what felt like my death bed- I was very ill all of that week and all of break. The next day we went to an Indian housewarming/thanksgiving meal before driving to Santa Cruz to do the scenic "17 mile drive"- beaches, golf courses for the rich, and mansions for the ridiculously rich
The next day was spent in San Francisco, which is only about 40mins drive away from Sneha's. We were so lucky to have a perfectly clear and almost windless day in the city known for it's fog and wind! The Golden Gate Bridge was first on the agenda for the afternoon and was definitely worth the holiday traffic! It is a beautiful piece of architecture and the views of the city and surroundings are stunning. Afterward we headed to the waterfront for lunch at Boudin, but the entire block had a power outage so instead they showed me around Fisherman's Wharf area and then walked to Pier 39 to the small Boudin there to eat
The next day was packing day with bagels for breakfast (have I talked about how amazing the Bagels in The States are yet? Coz I should really devote an entire post to them- they're that good.) and a quick visit to some more of Sneha's family (I get the sense they have an enormous one) on the way to the airport for the flight home. It was such a great trip, just relaxing in an actual house as well as good food and sight seeing with one of my american favourites.
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Regional Refinery Utilization Shows Gulf Coast Pressure
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But there is some room for hope.
Refineries generally begin maintenance in February or March, and finish in April. The East Coast was experiencing some lengthy refinery maintenance outages, as shown by the drop in utilization that remained low in most of March and April.
In the meantime, the East Coast was drawing on extra supplies from the Gulf Coast and imports.
The Midwest refineries seem to have been ramping up in April as they finished what maintenance was needed. But the Midwest no longer has the Blue Island refinery, so it also is pulling more product from the Gulf Coast.
The high Gulf Coast prices this spring reflect extra "pull" on product from both the Midwest and the East Coast, and probably from California as well. Inputs into Gulf Coast refineries over the last 4 weeks have been over 600 thousand barrels per day (nearly 9%) more than last year during the same period. This reflects the extra demand for product from the Midwest and East Coast.
The weekly data indicates the East Coast refineries are coming back up, which, should free up some Gulf Coast capacity to fill in for the Tosco refinery problem that occurred a week and a half ago. With the spreads between gasoline and crude oil spot prices that we are seeing, it's no surprise that refinery utilization is up.


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Heathens vs Buxton
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- Follow the action as Cradley launch their home National League campaign against Buxton at Monmore Green tonight (7.30pm).
- Heathens will be looking to bounce back from last Monday's narrow defeat at Coventry when they face the Hitmen.
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