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If you have to dig through a mountain of clothes to find your favorite sweatshirt, it's time to take on that messy closet. This simple-to-build system organizes your closet with shelf, drawer and hanging space for your clothes, shoes and accessories. Buying a closet system like this would cost you at least $500, but you can build this one for about half that.
Our system is really just four plywood boxes outfitted with shelf standards, closet rods or drawers. We built it for an 8-ft.-wide closet with an 8-ft. ceiling, but it'll work in any reach-in closet that's at least 6 ft. wide if you adjust the shelf width between the boxes or change the box dimensions.
Time, money and materials
You can complete this project in a weekend. Spend Saturday cutting the lumber, ironing on the edge banding and applying the finish. Use your Saturday date night to clean everything out of the closet. That leaves you Sunday to build and install the new system.
We built the entire system with birch plywood. The total cost, including the hardware for the drawers, shelves and closet rods, was about $250. You could use MDF or oak plywood instead of birch. Everything you need for this project is available at home centers.
Cut and prefinish the parts
Start by cutting all the parts to size following Figure C and the Cutting List (see Additional Information, below). The corner box sides are slightly narrower than 12 in., so you can cut off dings and dents and still cut four sides from a sheet of plywood.
You won't be able to cut the shelves that fit between the boxes to length until the boxes are installed (the shelves need to be cut to fit), but you can rip plywood to 11-7/8 in. and cut the shelves to length later.
Once the parts are cut, apply edge banding (iron-on veneer) to all the edges that will be exposed after the boxes are assembled (Figure A). Build a jig to hold the parts upright. Place a part in the jig. Then cut the edge banding so it overhangs each end of the plywood by 1/2 in. Run an iron (on the cotton setting) slowly over the edge banding. Then press a scrap piece of wood over the edge banding to make sure it's fully adhered. Trim the edges with a veneer edge trimmer. (See our article on Edge Banding for more advice on veneer edges.)
Lightly sand the wood and your closet rod with 120-grit sandpaper. Wipe away the dust with a tack cloth, then use a paint pad to apply a coat of polyurethane on everything except the drawer parts (Photo 1). This inexpensive pad will let you finish each part in about 20 seconds. Let the finish dry, then apply a second coat.
Figure A: Closet Storage System
Strong, attractive birch plywood makes an ideal wood for the shelves and sides.
(A complete Cutting List and a Materials List are available in pdf format in Additional Information below.)
Attach the hardware
It's easier to install the drawer slides and the shelf standards that go inside the boxes before you assemble the boxes. Use a framing square to draw reference lines on the drawer unit sides for your drawer slides (see Figure A). The slides are spaced 8 in. apart, centered 8-3/4 in. down from the top of the box. Keep the slides 3/4 in. from the front edge (this is where the drawer faces will go). Use a 7/64-in. self-centering drill bit to drill pilot holes and screw the slides into place (Photo 2).
You'll need to have your wire basket now (they're available at home centers). Attach the glides for the basket 3 in. below the drawer slides. If your basket is narrower than 22-1/2 in., screw a cleat to the box side so the basket will fit.
Now attach the shelf standards. You can cut them with a hacksaw, but an easier way is to use a metal blade in a jigsaw. Place two or more standards together so the numbers are oriented the same way and the standards are aligned at the ends. Tape the standards together where you're going to make the cut, then gang-cut them with your jigsaw (Photo 3).
Screw the standards to the inside of the box sides, 1 in. from the edges. Keep the standards 3/4 in. from the top (that's where the box tops go). Be sure the numbers on the standards are facing the same way when you install them—this ensures the shelves will be level.
Assemble the boxes
Use a brad nailer to tack the boxes together following Figure A and Photo 4. If you don't have a brad nailer, use clamps. Then screw the boxes together. We used 1-5/8-in. trim screws because the screw heads are small and unobtrusive (we left the screw heads exposed). Here are some tips for assembling the boxes:
- Attach the screw strips to the box tops first, then add one side, then the bottom shelf, and then the second side.
- Drill 1/8-in. pilot holes to prevent splitting. Stay 1 in. from edges.
- If your cuts are slightly off and the top, bottom and sides aren't exactly the same width, align the front edges.
- The boxes will be slightly wobbly until they're installed in the closet, so handle them with care.
- The middle bottom box has a back. Square the box with the back, then glue and tack the back in place.
- After the corner boxes are assembled, screw shelf standards to the side that doesn't abut the wall (it's easier to install the standards before the boxes are installed).
Build the drawers
Cut the drawer sides and bottoms (see Additional Information, below). Assemble the sides with glue and 1-in. screws. To square the drawers, set adjacent sides against a framing square that's clamped to your work surface. Glue and tack the drawer bottom into place (Photo 5). Then set the drawer slides on the drawers, drill pilot holes and screw the slides into place.
Install the drawers in the box. Getting the drawer faces in their perfect position is tricky business. If the faces are even slightly off-center, the drawer won't close properly. To align them, place double-sided tape over the drawer front. Starting with the top drawer, center the drawer face in the opening (Photo 6). You should have about a 1/8-in. gap on both sides and the top. Press the face into the tape. Take out the drawer and clamp the face to the drawer to keep it stationary. Drive two 1-in. screws through the inside of the drawer into the face.
Hang the boxes in the closet
Now install the boxes. Start by drawing a level line in the closet, 11 in. down from the ceiling. This will give you just over 10 in. of storage space above the closet system after the top shelf is installed. Then mark the stud locations on the wall with tape.
Don't assume your closet walls are plumb—they're probably not. So you can't just place a box in a corner without checking for alignment. Hanging the boxes is a two-person job, so get a helper. Start with the corner boxes. Align the top of the box with your level line on the wall. Have your helper plumb the box with a level while you drive 2-1/2-in. screws through the screw strip into the wall at the stud locations (Photo 7). Attach the other corner box the same way.
Find the center of the wall, then make a mark 12 in. on one side of the center mark. That's where your shelf unit will go. Again, have your helper plumb the box while you align it with your marks and screw it to the wall. Prop up the drawer unit on spacers so it's tight against the shelf unit. Align the edges, then clamp the boxes and screw them together (Photo 8). Drive screws through the screw strip into the wall.
Then place the top shelf over the boxes. We could just barely fit our shelf into the closet to lift it into place. If yours won't fit, you'll have to cut it and install it as two pieces. Make the cut near one end, over a corner box, so it's not noticeable. Screw the shelf to the box tops with 1-1/4-in. screws.
Then attach shelf standards along the sides of the shelf and drawer units (Figure A). Cut the adjustable shelves to length to fit between the corner boxes and the middle boxes. Finally, screw the closet rod flanges into place, cut the closet rod to size and install the rods.
Additional Information
- Closet Storage Cutting List
- Figure B: Drawer Construction
- Figure C: Closet Storage Cutting Diagrams
- Closet Storage Materials List
- Figure A: Closet Storage System


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How the gun-control movement got smart
Contrast that with what you see today: Gun-control groups don't even use the term "gun control," with its big-government implications, favoring "preventing gun violence" instead. Democratic politicians preface every appeal for reform with a paean to the rights enshrined in the Second Amendment and bend over backwards to assure "law-abiding gun owners" they mean them no ill will. Even the president, a Chicago liberal who once derided rural voters' tendency to "cling to guns or religion," seeks to assure gun enthusiasts he's one of them by citing a heretofore-unknown enthusiasm for skeet shooting, adding, "I have a profound respect for the traditions of hunting that trace back in this country for generations. And I think those who dismiss that out of hand make a big mistake."
A frequent question in the current battle over gun control is why anyone should expect reform to succeed now when it's failed repeatedly for the last 20 years. Maybe this is why: Between then and now, advocates of gun control got smarter. They've radically changed their message into one that's more appealing to Middle America and moderate voters. …
Reid likely owes his majority to Democrats' success in recent years at rebranding themselves as pro-gun and winning over rural, blue-collar, and Western voters. But as with the DLC's larger project of moving the party to the center, this success has come at a cost to the party's former progressive ideals. If the gun-control movement is more strategic now than it once was, it's also less ambitious. The president's package of reform proposals — carefully touted as "gun-violence prevention," in keeping with the taboo on the potentially alienating phrase "gun control" — would have been considered incrementalist 15 years ago. And the same red-state Democrats who can thank smarter gun messaging for their Senate seats now may pose the greatest obstacle to measures like a new ban on assault weapons.

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July 7, 1973
Chicago, IL US
Chicago Stadium
Rock and Roll, Celebration Day, (Bring It On Home intro) Black Dog, Over the Hills and Far Away, Misty Mountain Hop, Since I've Been Loving You, No Quarter, The Song Remains the Same, Rain Song, Dazed and Confused (incl. San Francisco), Stairway to Heaven, Moby Dick, Heartbreaker, Whole Lotta Love (incl. Let That Boy Boogie), Communication Breakdown.
Review: Friday and Saturday, Led Zeppelin landed at the Chicago Stadium, with nearly 20,000 turning out for each night's show. Apparently anticipating possible problems, someone had seen to it that the place was crawling with security as well. Friday night, at least, things were peaceful enough – in fact, by current concert standards, the whole evening proceeded according to script.
For a band that attracts such an eager-for-action audience, Led Zeppelin is curiously controlled. They are not the type to urge the audience to surge forward; in fact, they play with barricades in front of the stage and Plant expressed distaste more than once for the pushing confrontations going on practically at his feet.
For a band that once relied so much on sheer musicianship, augmented by the stage sexuality of lead singer and vocal gymnast Plant, Led Zep's picked up a lot of theatrical trappings since their last tour. A stage setting with complete lighting system, mirrored panels and silver balls, plus puffs of smoke and enveloping fogs, represents some borrowings from Pink Floyd, though it works well with Zeppelin's style too. So does the weird electronic music of the theremin which guitarist Jimmy Page doubled on during Whole Lotta Love.
Page took a couple of solos with some flashy guitar work, and drummer John Bonham managed to make a 15 minute or so drum solo in Moby Dick, not only powerful but incredibly engrossing. (ChicagoTribune, July 1973)


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Neil is so uncivilized, the people at that restaurant were terrified to sit near him. He's a real Guha.
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July 27, 1969
Woodinville, WA US
Gold Creek Park (Seattle Pop Festival)
includes: Train Kept a Rollin', I Can't Quit You Baby, Dazed and Confused, White Summer / Black Mountainside, You Shook Me, How Many More Times, Communication Breakdown
Press Review: More than 50,000 rock fans gathered at Woodinville's Gold Creek Park over the weekend for a practically non-stop three-day festival of music, events and exhibitions. The first annual Seattle Pop Festival was a marvel of crowd control and smooth organization.
Sunday night was supposed to belong to The Doors but it was stolen right out from under them by the great English blues group, Led Zeppelin.
Coming onstage about 11:30pm, immediately after the forced extravaganza of The Doors, the Zeppelin faced a jaded and uncomfortable audience that had been standing in the cold all evening. But the electricity of lead singer Robert Plant and guitarist Jimmy Page quickly warmed them up.
Plant has a voice that is controlled hysteria. Anguish pours from his every note; his voice is an epitome of the blues.
Page is an amazing guitarist. His runs and fingering are magnificent, his control of the instrument pure genius.
They were aided by a fine drummer, John Bonham and bassist John Paul Jones. Few who experienced it will forget Led Zeppelin's performance, especially their smashing encore of Communication Breakdown. [P. Macdonald, SeattlePost-Intelligencer. July 1969]
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My Old Poster
Today I showed my Seattle Pops Festival poster to my 17 year old. Yes, I started late. He was dazzled. "You were there, Dad? All three days?"
The next thing I knew he was on his smart phone and said, You know what that poster is worth? Wow $3000. I only paid $15 for the three dats and the poster was free.


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This article originally appeared in the September 11, 1987 issue of the Boston Phoenix
With the release of Bad (Epic), Michael Jackson ends a recording hiatus of nearly five years. He could have stayed away for 10 years and still not have escaped the shadow of Thriller, the biggest-selling album of all time. Thriller was the album that inflated record-company standards of success and made sales-figure watching a national craze, like hanging out under the golden arches and waiting for the numbers to change—over 38.5 million sold! It was also the album that, in the view of the industry, the media, and the public, confused popularity with perfection once and for all. Yes, Thriller included "Billie Jean," "Beat It," "Human Nature," and "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'." But it also gave the gaggingly coy "The Girl Is Mine," the gaudy extravaganza "Thriller," and unremarkable MOR filler like "Baby Be Mine," "The Lady in My Life," and "P.Y.T."
By now it's difficult to sort out the original cause of Thriller mania. Was it the radio void the songs filled with their irresistible melding of pop, R&B, and rock, or was it his prime-time moonwalk across the stage during NBC's Motown 25 special, in 1983? Or was it the relentless pushing of single after single and the self-perpetuating cycle of an insatiable media push hyping Jackson's every move to an equally insatiable public?
No matter—from 1983 to the end of the Jacksons' Victory tour, in 1984, Thriller was so pervasive in American culture, so uppermost in our popular consciousness, that listening to the album now provokes an overpowering sense of déjà vu and a guilty discomfort that resembles that way, say, a chocolate lover feels after overindulging. Thriller was so tied up in its times that it transcended music to become an Event, a fad. And fads become passé. Does anybody listen to the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack—one of the albums Thriller surpassed in its climb toward the Guinness Book of Records—anymore?
What's most surprising, and welcome, about Bad is that it doesn't even try to top Thriller. All those bigger-than-life collaborations (Michael and Barbara Streisand, Michael and Run-D.M.C.) rumored to be on the album – forget 'em. Bad is mostly Jackson. He wrote eight of the 10 songs here (more than he did on Off the Wall or Thriller) and coproduced with Quincy Jones. And the clean, cool synth funk represents an attempt to acknowledge the changes that have occurred in black pop in the three years since fans finally burned out on Thriller.
Bad is, for the most part, a respectable comeback that at times (the title track; "The Way You Make Me Feel") approaches the best of Thriller. It's a modernization of Jackson's sound, even as it sticks to the rock-pop-schlock ingredients of his previous albums. Next to the heavily orchestrated Thriller, Bad sounds spare. Jackson has always reflected other performers, taking his cues from stars like James Brown, Diana Ross, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, and others; it's the energy and otherworldy magnetism that's his own. On Bad, Jackson's biggest influence is his sister Janet's Control, the hit album she made under the direction of two members of Prince's Minneapolis Mafia, Terry Lewis and Jimmy Jam. Many of the songs on Bad, like those on Control, fall into stripped-down, robotic funk grooves. Jackson also echoes the gravelly, whisper-to-a-screech voice Janet adopted for "Nasty," as well as her tough-cookie attitude. Like Janet on Control, Jackson play-acts at being "bad," as if these overprivileged, well-behaved children ever could be.
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Xavier, 11, asked us: "I like this girl and she knows it. I think she was starting to like me, then she liked this other boy, and he liked her! So they are getting together now. Should I be jealous or should I start looking for another girl to
We can't control other people's feelings. You're a great person, of course, but there's always a chance your crush doesn't think of you romantically. Or maybe he or she is already crushing on someone else, possibly even (oh no!) one of your friends. It's a fact of life. When we find out our crush is a one-way thing, it HURTS. But the pain doesn't have to last forever, and it definitely doesn't have to affect how you feel about yourself. Here are some things to keep in mind:
DON'T try to "make" someone like you. When a crush doesn't return our feelings, it's easy to think we can fix it. If that involves trying to be someone you're not, or acting the way you think your crush likes people to act, you're not being true to yourself�and probably just making things worse. In the end, the best thing to do is respect his or her feelings. If you were friends before you admitted your feelings, it might help to take some time to cool off and then work on the friendship again. Read more about this in the IML Advice section.
DONT get obsessed. Maybe you can relate to Amberly, 12, who told us about a crush she's had on this one guy since kindergarten, even though she knows he won't go out with her if she was "the last girl on earth." What if you're convinced your feelings will never go away? It's okay to keep on admiring someone, but you'll be happier, in the end, if you start putting the crush behind you. It can be difficult, but it certainly gets easier with time, especially if you concentrate on your favorite activities or hobbies. If you find you can't move on, ask a school counselor for help dealing with your emotions.
DON'T let it affect who you choose as a friend. You might feel like you have to stop hanging out with people you like just because they're also friends with a crush that didn't work out. If you feel awkward about being with someone because of this, talk to her or him about how you can get past the situation.
DO keep liking yourself. Believe it or not, your crush not liking you does NOT mean you're a horrible, unlovable person. Sure, his or her opinion of you seems really important, but remember that this person is only one person out of many, many, many on the planet. Your opinion of yourself is what truly matters. Chances are that there is someone out there who sees how wonderful and likeable you are, and that might be the person you were meant to get together with.
DO keep an eye out for a new crush. You know that old saying, "There's lots more fish in the sea"? Guess what? It's true! The best way to get over someone is to focus on a new fish. It's likely that there are many other people out there who are worth getting to know, and perhaps even more deserving of your feelings.
DO confide in trusted friends and adults. If you're feeling low or your self-esteem is at rock bottom because you found out your crush isn't crushing back, try talking about your feelings with a good friend, parent, or another trusted adult, like a school counselor. Try your best to explain what happened and how it makes you feel, and work on ways that you can be happy and confident again. Adults always have stories about their own crushes, and these may help you understand that things will get better over time, even if it feels like they never will.
DO see the positive side of it. What? Getting turned down can be a good thing? Yup. Think about it: now you don't have to lie awake nights, wondering what your crush thinks of you. Now you know, and even though it wasn't the result you were hoping for, it's better to find out sooner than later. Plus, consider all that time and energy you spent thinking and fantasizing about your crush. That's yours again! You can put it towards something else now.
Remember: It's normal for you to feel a little depressed after an unhappy crush experience. But if you find yourself deeply sad for more than a few weeks in a row, it could be a sign of serious depression. If you want to learn more about this, check out the IML section on Depression.
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Nature walks on Waiheke Island reveal to Donna McIntyre the cornucopia of medicinal herbs masquerading as weeds.
After a weed walk around Waiheke's Palm Beach with naturopath and herbalist Helen Elscot, I feel as if I have had my eyes opened.
I know this area well, but have never appreciated the abundance of weeds growing here, many packed with vitamins and medicinal properties.
"Plants are here for a reason," says Helen. "As soon as you open your eyes you'll be more attuned to what is growing around us and how we can use them."
So today's walk is about taking time to learn how to wildcraft ... harvesting from the outdoors to make natural herbal remedies.
Take the flax beside Palm Beach Hall, our starting point. Helen peels back the covering to show a sticky membrane with similar healing qualities to aloe vera.
"You can use it on bumps and bruises. But test a patch first because people respond differently to herbs. I start on a small dose and work up."
We stop by the lavender across the road. "Mainly it's a herb that works for women, especially for menopausal symptoms, insomnia and depression. But you do need the medicinal variety, the Lavandula officinalis."
Some herbs have a different effect in men than in women. For instance, the chaste tree (Vitex agnus-castus) can act as an aphrodisiac for women whereas in men it reduces sex drive. However, there's no chance to put that herb to the test today as we don't come across any chaste trees on this walk.
If you're unsure of a herb's identity, don't taste it; instead roll and crush it to release the scent. For instance, lemon balm and mint look similar but their smells distinguish them. And Helen warns her groups to steer clear of unknown berries and mushrooms.
Next, she crouches to pick cleaver, a sticky weed with properties that aid lymphatic drainage and urinary tract infections. "But," Helen cautions, "I wouldn't collect from this roadside because of the diesel and petrol fumes, and also dogs are walked along here."
Another herb easy to find near streams is watercress. Like nasturtium it is good for the immune system. But avoid gathering it in places where there is a lot of runoff from properties.
The kawakawa growing undercover near the playground is easy to identify by its heart-shaped leaves. And the more holes the leaves have, the better, as a good chew by caterpillars produces the most active constituents (the ingredients in the herbs that make it work therapeutically).
Helen's weed walks around Palm Beach and Oneroa showing people how to identify and gather herbs to make natural remedies particularly appeal to mothers of young children.
"There is such a demand for it and it saves money because you are making visits to the GP less often," she says.
Further information
* Helen Elscot runs her Weed Walks for groups of 10 to 12 people on Waiheke Island and in Auckland city. They usually run from 11am to 3pm and include a session on show/tell/guess the plants. Cost for the Waiheke course is $60 including four remedies to take home plus course notes and recipes. The next one-day session is on November 17.
* Helen will take part in the Waiheke Walking Festival with Medicinal Plants in the Wild on Saturday, October 27 from 11am to 1.30pm, starting at Matiatia. Ph (09) 372 8102 or visit herbalhealthwaiheke.co.nz.
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I know a lot of people have standardized on the medium depth for brood and supers. I am caving to pressure from all sides to do so.
My question is for anyone raising queens using 6 5/8" for brood. What do you use for nucs? 5 frames of deep = 7.5 frames of mediums, so I would think 5 frames might be a bit shy. A ten frame box could only be 2.5 frames more than the 7.5. Would a ten frame medium box work for a nuc or does it need to be more tall and less wide? I see Brushy Mountain, who seem to like the all medium setup, has a double high five frame nuc in 6 5/8". Does anyone think it matters whether the 10 frames are in one box or stacked in nucs to make two stories?


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In the beginning of 1998 Darkane rose out of the ashes of Agretator, an ill-fated but talented band giving Watchtower (of course you remember them!) a run for the money. When Agretator became history, drummer Peter Wildoer and guitarist Christofer Malmström teamed up with fellow six stringer Klas Ideberg and bass player Jörgen Löfberg.
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I am preparing to install some packages into some new hives this Spring. I have drawn frames from honey supers that I was going to use to start the package. I planned on placing 10 drawn into the hive and then let them start working it into what they wanted. I have heard the term, "checkerboard". I assume this is alternating frames in a hive with 1 drawn frame then 1 frame of foundation, then another of drawn, and so on.
Is this what checkerboarding is?
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Original post made by Stacey, Amberwood/Wood Meadows, on May 14, 2008
Let's list here things we can do to reduce our water usage and help prevent a "tragedy of the commons".
- Take a shower with a family member
- Don't shower every day (adult skin dries out from frequent showers).
- Only wash full loads
- If your washer/dishwasher has the option, use the 'quick wash' setting. Most loads don't need a full cycle.
- Install a gray water system for irrigation. Gray water is water that has been used for washing (drains from sink, washer, bath, shower). Simple versions are keeping a bucket in the shower or hooking up a tank to the washer drain. Since we pay for water and sewer separately in Pleasanton, a professionally installed whole-house gray water system can pay for itself rather quickly.
- If you haven't already done so, replace all shower heads, toilets, faucets with low-gallon versions.
- Reduce the amount of dishes that need washing by serving food right out of the pot/pan instead of putting it in a serving dish.
a resident of Dublin
on May 14, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Yes, also people please stop washing your cars at home! Waste of water and damaging the environment all those soap suds go straight into the Bay!
a resident of Livermore
on May 16, 2008 at 9:30 am
PlutonianS...stop being WATER HOGS!
a resident of Country Fair
on May 16, 2008 at 10:43 am
I say Caveman diet, Caveman hygene!
a resident of Amador Estates
on May 16, 2008 at 1:34 pm
They asked us to save water they didn't tell us to. So we don't have to if we don't want too.
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on May 16, 2008 at 11:30 pm
Pleasanton city itself needs to look at all the landscape-watering systems in this town. There have been plenty of times I have seen water running down the street for over-watering on medians and sides of major streets. Sometimes the sprays of water are directed towards the road rather than the grass!
If it hasn't been reviewed already, city employees should be maintaining these systems to prevent the waste of water. City officials should publish the appropriate telephone to report poorly directed and/or programed systems.
a resident of Livermore
on May 17, 2008 at 2:31 pm
In case you haven't already guessed, "hey" is 11 yrs. old.
Even at age 11 a person can be a jerk!
a resident of Birdland
on May 17, 2008 at 4:28 pm
P-town Mom has it right. I've called the city before to complain about them wasting water (wet streets, flooded parks, etc.) and poor watering times (middle of the day). I was told that the systems were all automated and it was too expensive for them to change the timers. The Weekly should call out the city on specific examples of how they waste water and I encourage others to complain directly to the city. Perhaps The Weekly could also run an article letting people know how often and when to water their landscaping as most people (hey aside) want to conserve yet many water every day, and/or in the afternoon.
a resident of Highland Oaks
on May 18, 2008 at 3:08 pm
It's very disturbing when residents are asked to cut while the city wastes, especially with the excuse that it's too expensive to change their timers.
Lead by example!
a resident of Vintage Hills
on May 18, 2008 at 3:35 pm
If you want a clear example on "do as I say, not as I do" you only have to look at the new landscaping the city put in on Vineyard Avenue between Montevino and Bernal (a few feet from the mayor's house). There must be thousands of plants the city just put in to "beautify" that street. I see the sprinklers on quite often. Being this is a brand new project, why didn't the city use drip irrigation? The city is telling residents to use drip irrigation to reduce the landscaping water needs but the city still uses overhead sprinklers. That median should have been done to xeroscape standards and not planting 100's (1000's ?) of day lillies and such. I can't imagine what the maintenance is going to be there with all those plants.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 18, 2008 at 4:51 pm
To the extent that power corrupts...and the mayor has more power than the citizens...the mayor is more corrupt than the citizens!!!
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on May 19, 2008 at 8:07 am
My understanding is that the City can't water everything at night. There wouldn't be enough pressure in the irrigation system to do everything at night. I doubt it has much to do with expense of changing a timer.
Regarding the landscaping on Vineyard, that kind of landscaping is all over Pleasanton and yea, better xeroscape design would rock (anyone ever seen Arizona?). But it is entirely ridiculous to suggest that the landscaping project there has anything to do with the mayor. Vineyard got "fixed up" between Bernal and Montevino because enough citizens complained to the City about it! Citizens living in that area were fed up with the traffic and speeders going to and from Ruby Hills so the City installed "traffic calming" measures, including expanding the median.
a resident of Livermore
on May 19, 2008 at 10:27 am
Hi Stacey...another Cholo wannabe being creepy. I did not post the above. Plutonians, I like Stacey because she's smart and cool and shares information! HOORAY!
My advice to Plutonians is to PRESSURE PRESSURE PRESSURE AND TO HOLD YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS ACCOUNTABLE. If all you want to do is whine online for attention, then so be it. If you want to make a difference, get more involved in local government.
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a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on May 20, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Stacey, do you work for the City? They can water everything when the sun is down but for whatever reason they don't. To use your logic, the water system couldn't support a large number of people taking showers at the same time, which does in fact happen every weekday morning as people get ready for work and school.
a resident of Livermore
on May 21, 2008 at 6:06 pm
jason...how do you know that people bath every weekday morning...do you work for the city?
Prove it!
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on May 21, 2008 at 10:28 pm
I did want to report back that I saw a city employee working with the angles of the sprinkler systems at the sports park, along Hopyard, this morning. I'm hoping they were ensuring that all the water sprayed does indeed hit the grass...since the water will do very little good on the sidewalk or street.
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on May 21, 2008 at 10:45 pm
No, I don't work for the City. I am just repeating what I once heard (whether it is right or wrong) which is why I wrote "My understanding is...". I think your comparison of a large number of people taking showers with large scale irrigation is not very good. Have you seen the amount of water the sprinklers at a sports field puts out compared with a showerhead? Seriously, why do you think the City maintains a series of large water tanks in the hills (with another one planned when the Oak Grove development is built).
a resident of Danbury Park
on May 22, 2008 at 3:22 pm
I just saw the recent city council meeting and was astonished that the council approved (3 for, 2 against) a house in the vineyard corridor area where they will be cutting down around 80 oak trees and planting about 500 new trees. The speaker on this item was right, how can the city council ask people to cut down on water when they approve a house that will be planting 500 trees that require our limited water for irrigation?
To add insult to injury, this land owner is represented by no other than Tom Pico, the same consultant as the Oak Grove development. I always though Mr. Pico was an environmentalist but now I see that he has converted from environmentalism to capitalism (work for the developers as this is where the money is).
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on May 23, 2008 at 9:01 pm
If only 10% of the city's residents are taking showers at the same time that should be about 35,000 gallons per minute, or more. We have enough water pressure to water multiple parks at the same time, especially if the parks are watered on an alternating basis between 10:00 P.M. and 5:00 A.M. 2 - 3 days per week.
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a resident of Livermore
on May 23, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Editor...the post by Jason is pure filth. Please remove.
a resident of Livermore
on May 24, 2008 at 10:43 am
a resident of Livermore
on May 24, 2008 at 10:46 am
editor of the Pleasanton Weekly
on May 24, 2008 at 12:21 pm
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Thanks to NAN for manning the majority of the daytime activity. Twas fun. We'll have to do this dance again some time.
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Power Mushroom - Survive one attack
Starman - Invincible for the phase
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Bob-omb - blow player up at night (cannot use this on yourself obviously)
P-wing - player cannot post during the following cycle, but also cannot be lynched or targeted for night actions.
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Kicksave - Bowser (alpha). You are large and in charge. Each night you will submit the name of someone to kill. Also, you have 2 recruits at your disposal. You may choose to recruit a toadstool at night in lieu of killing. Note that there is a possibility of failure. If this occurs, you do *NOT* lose the recruit. If you die before using up your recruits, however, they are lost.
All evil bosses worth a damn have their henchmen, and this is no exception.
bhaw - Bowser Jr.
cup keeper - Wart
You may communicate freely with each other.
Good luck.
Goomba (recruit one) played by redwill.
Koopa Troopa (recruit two) played by Juice.
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slappy - use mushroom
canaan - protect self
ks - kill LITT
Day 1: mac
Night 2:
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slappy - use p-switch (c2i)
canaan - protect c2i
shad - gets fire flower, does not use.
ks - kill thg
Day 2: Kraftster
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c2i - see shad
canaan - self
slappy - bomb shad
shad - nothing
ks - kill c2i
Day 3 - relantel
Night 4:
canaan - self
slappy - nothing
ks - recruit canaan (fails)
Day 4 - Bob Cole's Senility
Night 5:
canaan - no PM
slappy - nothing
KS - recruit redwill (1 left)
Day 5 - Troy
Night 6:
canaan - self
slappy - nothing
KS - recruit Juice
Day 6 - slappy fireballs pfidc, malks
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canaan - self
slappy - ? block on Juice (POW block)
KS - kill pittsports
Day 7 - doublem
Night 8:
canaan - self
slappy - nothing
KS - kill Azkar
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Home › Forums › Off Piste › Packrafting › What you would do? – Sweeper Q / Initial Trip Report
Mar 7, 2012 at 1:14 pm #1286772
I went out yesterday for my debut packrafting voyage.
I selected a 12km (8 mile) section of river that was rated as class II-III and local beta indicated was in good shape. The water was extremely cold (40F?) as it was mostly snow melt and one frozen lake source. I didn't have that much warm stuff (RidgeRest floor, Neoprene socks/gloves, synthetic layers, rain gear) but I figured if I did get dunked and was hypothermic I could always stagger to one of the homes scattered along the river, which would never be more than a few hundred meters away.
I started in a calm section, paddled around for a bit and then started to go. For the first few rapids I was thinking 'Geez this is gnarly'. It was a ton of fun, but also a little scary because the water flow was high and really cold.
After 20 minutes or so, I was feeling pretty good. I had been through a few big wave trains and tight/fast spots and I felt a lot more confident. I also realized at this point that the river was moving pretty darn quick. I had covered ~2 miles in 20 minutes.
After an hour, I covered 6 miles and the river continued to be pretty intense (for a new guy) but I felt I had the hang of it. I was paddling strong and used to the bucking feeling of a wave train. It was still a bit scary, but according to the guide book I was through the toughest parts.
I came to a section where the river braided into about 4 channels. I took the biggest channel, which went through some mild rapids (ie. no paddling back) into a narrow but deep (8-10') channel along the shore. It was deep, but moving swiftly:
Right after I snapped the above pic, I noticed a tree down across the channel (the far tree). I realized this was bad. The water looks calm in this picture, but it was moving quick. I tried to paddle against the current but I couldn't paddle hard enough and even if I could, there was no going back because I had just come through some rapids. I knew it was either get out of the river, or go into that tree.
Here's a better look (zoom in) at the tree:
I grabbed a basketball sized boulder along the left side, but the river was too powerful and I just pulled the rock into the channel. Faced with just a few seconds, I opted to man-overboard and try to swim for the left shore. I couldn't do it. The river was too fast and powerful and I got pulled into the log. I grabbed it for a second as the river pummelled me, but realized there was no way I was getting out of there aside from going under. I let go and got pulled under the log and through it's branches (taking a few good leg bruises en route). It sucked, but after a couple seconds I popped up (thanks MYOG PFD) and swam to the left shore.
I ran along the left shore as my paddle was getting away. I sure didn't want to go back into that liquid ice, but my paddle was out in the deep part of the river and my wife sure wouldn't have been pleased if I let that brand new paddle go. I got ahead of the paddle, waded in and then swam out into the middle to intercept my paddle before it got to the next rapids section. You sure can't swim long when the water is this cold. I was only in there for many 20 seconds and my body was cramping up.
My raft was still caught in the sweeper. I walked back up stream to retrieve it, but it was slowly filling with water and eventually it was driven under the log once it was totally swamped. Unfortunately it also decided to float on the opposite side of the river, so I went for a third swim, realizing that I needed to collect my stuff quickly and get walking, so I could get warm.
Raft getting away:
I got the raft and tried to drag it out of the river, which is actually extremely hard when it's swamped full of water and you're borderline hypothermic. I had exited the raft without tearing open the spray deck, which is why the raft took a while to get swamped under the sweeper. On the plus side, it meant all of the stuff I had in the raft (inflation bag with extra synth jkt) was still there. I just lost my beanie and cheap sunglasses I was wearing.
I deflated the raft, packed everything in the inflation bag and started walking quickly towards the parallel road. I walked briskly for 30-40 minutes to cover the last ~2 miles where my wife was waiting. I was pretty cold for the first 20 min (chattering teeth) but around the 30 min mark I started to warm up. My synthetic jacket was totally soaked but it was still definitely helping.
So with the story told, I'm not really sure what I should have done differently to avoid the sweeper. Having warmer clothes on would have been nice for afterwards, but what could be done to actually avoid this log? Had I bailed out a couple seconds sooner, I might have made it to shore but that's hard to say. By the time I could see the log, it pretty much seemed too late to do anything. Would you guys have ridden the raft right into the log and then tried to crawl out onto the log? In the split second I had to decide, I was picturing me and raft all tangled up in the tree, so I opted to jettison out. I might have been able to grab a branch on the right bank, but the river was moving really fast on the right side so I'm not sure if that would have worked. Obviously scouting ahead would have solved this, but at the same time you can't really scout every rapid on a class II-III river that is supposedly good to go, and still make decent time.
Ideas? Thoughts?Mar 7, 2012 at 1:27 pm #1850182
j lanMember
@justaddfuelLocale: MN
First of all, thank god you are alive! That story just filled me with dread. I have lost a friend to a sweeper and it is the easiest way to die. Second, how much whitewater experience do you have, have you canoed/kayaked before? What I would have done is turned the nose of the packraft upstream and paddle like hell for the nearest eddie (backflowing water behind rocks/stumps/shoreline)
In the packraft you have to really lean forward and dig deep fast and hard to make it upstream.
Also, I would put the camera away while you are boating except for in the calmest water or from shore. This I am sure cost you time that you could have used to get to shore and portage around the sweeper.
I am glad you and that beautiful new raft survived.
What did your wife say?Mar 7, 2012 at 1:42 pm #1850190
This river was harder that I anticipated doing for my first time out. I wasn't sure about it, but the first couple rapids went well and according to the guidebook the river just gets mellower as you go. By this point, (6 out of 8 miles) I figured it was going to be all mellow from here so I was snapping more pics.
I probably would have noticed the sweeper sooner if I wasn't snapping a pic. I had the camera hanging around my neck on a cord and on the whole time, so it was pretty quick to snap pics but obviously you can never let your guard down. Lesson learned. Thankfully the camera wasn't lost during the swim.
About 10 years I was a canoe instructor and I've done quite a bit of lake and mild river paddling in both rivers and kayaks. I don't have much experience with white water, but I'm pretty strong paddler.
I'm not sure I could have held my ground against the water, but maybe I could have if I kept paddling instead of grabbing at boulder on the shore. The left side of the channel doesn't look too bad in the pic. I should practice more with paddling upstream and the techniques (leaning forward) in doing so to learn my limits. With that said, there was no way of paddling out of this spot, as I had just come through some rapids to wind up here, so landing on shore (with or without the raft) would have been required eventually.
I didn't make this sound as scary as it was when I told my wife. She knows I went under a log and for a good swim, but she was mostly worried about me being cold. She's got a raft order, so rather than get her scared I'm trying to learn what I can and keep us safe.
The spray deck has a ~6" tear, as does my rain jacket.Mar 7, 2012 at 2:12 pm #1850209
j lanMember
@justaddfuelLocale: MN
Hi Dan, Sorry, yes i was suggesting paddling upstream a little bit to find a place on shore to land (preferably from an eddy)
A really good practice for me when i first got my packraft was to play in some mild rapids and practice entering and exiting eddys. Also try to surf standing waves like this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC7KA8QTdH0Mar 7, 2012 at 2:28 pm #1850217
Neat video…eddy's sure are fun. It's amazing how complex the water can be. I'm looking forward to getting out on the water again, but unfortunately I've got to fly to work tomorrow for a 4 week stint in the arctic (geology/exploration stuff). My wife's raft will be here when I get back, and then we'll go play on some mellow water.Mar 7, 2012 at 4:37 pm #1850290
Ryan WMember
Wow, man. Almost speechless! I don't post here a ton, but I've been lurking for a few years and really enjoyed your presence on the forums. I am really glad it turned out OK.
First off, really commendable of you to post this on a forum looking for input. We are all learning and you opened yourself up with a really approachable attitude. Awesome example.
I'm not going to offer you a "what I would have done/what you should have done" because as you and I both know, every backcountry situation is different and decisions like these are made instantaneously. Plus I don't want it to come off as somehow I think I have all the answers.
I used to do a fair bit of white water paddling, guiding, instruction, swift water rescue so I have a few thoughts.
Paddling by yourself is inherently more dangerous, way moreso than most other means of backcountry travel. I've done, do it, and will continue to do it, but the risk calculation needs to be very different. Risks encountered while paddling usually have a window of only seconds between life vs death. I've seen enough near deaths saved by paddling companions that I really believe in this. If you are out by yourself you have to be a ton more cautious, no room for error or surprise.
A pretty common accepted tenet in the WW community is that if you are paddling a river by yourself, (without intimate and recent knowledge of what lays ahead), then you must be confident in your ability to avoid any danger within your site line either by eddying out or by altering course. So if the flow is high enough or the river is curvy enough that you are not going to have the time/ability to do this then you need to get out and scout. Yup, can be time consuming but there really is no other safe choice. I mention "ability" because hardshells, canoes and different crafts that you may be used to have very different speed capabilities than what you are going to find with a packraft. Getting to shore in a kayak is always faster than swimming. but may or may not be in a packraft depending on the conditions. Worth experimenting.
As you mentioned, something that almost nobody realizes until they try it (hopefully simulated) is that it is pretty much impossible to hang onto or climb over a strainer with any minimal river flow going on. It just can't be done! If you are alone, that means that if you hit one, you are going under, and there is a very high probability you are not coming out the other side. Really, very, very high probability you will be snared. I can't tell you how relived I am you beat the odds. If you are already in the water then as a very last resort, best to flip onto your belly and swim headfirst at it with everything you've got.
I've practiced riding a hardshell up to a simulated strainer, crouching, and then diving over the obstacle as a drill. It can work as a hail mary option, but realistically only in mellow water and if you are in mellow water, then you really should be able to eddy out in the first place. If you try to ride in your boat all the way to the strainer/obstacle, grab, and ditch out on top, the tricky thing is that your boat will hit before you can grab, you then flip and essentially get pinned, making a bad situation even worse. If you need to bail, probably best to bail early.
If you are in the front country, I'd also make a strong argument for carrying a real PFD and helmet. (By the way, I want to see some updated pictures of the PFD project :)! I love it for backcountry lakes.
Toasting a beer to you tonight and your close call!
RyanMar 7, 2012 at 4:39 pm #1850292
Richard NisleyBPL Member
@richard295Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
A back ferry at 45 degrees to the current, not the shore, would have moved you sideways to the opposite bank away from the strainer. Prior to the addition of the big butt stern in 2011, I had to use an upstream ferry to avoid submarineing my stern.Mar 7, 2012 at 6:36 pm #1850338
David ChenaultSpectator
@davecLocale: The West Slope
I'll add another vote to the glad you're alive camp. That log jam looks nasty.
On one occasion have I been swept towards a log in the river without time to get out. I jumped out of the boat and over the log with my paddle, and the raft washed over it. This was a simple log with no branches and at river level, on a small stream, and I had removed the deck early in the float because the creek was blown out at flood stage with no eddies.
I've since gotten a lot more careful about paddling those little creeks which are only doable at high water. They usually never have enough flow to flush debris well, and thus have lots of wood. I bailed (through a really nasty bushwack) on a few "first descents" last summer because the log jam roulette just got too egregious. Sometimes scouting, slow though it is, is the only responsible option.
Not to be pedantic and ask an obvious question, but were you ferrying when you tried to paddle to shore? I've been in what from your photos I assume to be a comparable position on many occasions. I would have spun around, bow 45 degrees to current facing upstream, and paddled like hell. Reach the shore, time it for a likely (solid) bit of rock bar, then do a final left paddle stroke to spin around facing downstream, huck the paddle on to solid ground, rip the skirt and jump/roll out right hand first. Hold on to your boat with the stern loop in the left hand. Scrabble as needed to hold position as rocks roll.
In the broader context, I think you got a bit too far in too soon. Getting to know how the boat reacts, how to bail and do a wet re-entry, and getting to know how your rivers work is best done a bit slowly. It looks like the combination of the current direction in that particular bend and your dense forest will create ideal conditions for big sweepers. I'd expect to find more in similar circumstances. There are creeks here that flow through similar soft soiled bottomlands with mature forest, and on the outside of big meanders those creeks almost without exception have big log jams. On a map they look like good paddling, when in reality you portage every other apex.
You also became acquainted with the limitations of raingear. It lowers the safety margin vastly.Mar 7, 2012 at 6:42 pm #1850342
Don MeredithMember
@donmeredithLocale: SouthEast
Dan, so glad to hear that you came out of that one OK. Even though I knew you made it (as you were posting the details) it still freaked me out. I've been in a few sketchy situations in WW here in the SE and understand how it can go from OK to really bad news in the blink of an eye. Its really hard to say what you could have done differently after coming around the bend to more safely handle the situation.
Prior to getting there you were already nervous about the conditions… not scared but nervous. Listen to your gut. The speed and temperature of the water had you on edge. If you're alone like that, listen to your instinct and pull out and play another day. Its better to be conservative than dead!
I've ignored that 'little voice' a time or two and regretted it both on water and on the mountain bike. Thanks so much for posting your experience. Moving water is really powerful and can be underestimated so easily. Have fun on your trip and let us know how the next adventure goes.
BTW, how did you like the Shuna on the water?
DMMar 7, 2012 at 8:01 pm #1850372
"Not to be pedantic and ask an obvious question, but were you ferrying when you tried to paddle to shore?"
Yeah. To provide a little more detail, when I saw the trouble I spun around (now facing upstream) and paddled/ferried toward the rocky shore (on the left in the pic) at an ~45 degree angle as recommending in Packrafting!. I successfully got there quickly, while still also moving downstream pretty quickly. I decided to grab for a big boulder on the shore to anchor myself. This didn't work as the rock pulled out and into the water. Since I had stopped paddling to grab the rock, the water spun me around and pulled me back into the current. By the time I was paddling again it was too late. I was in that rough water stretch in the 40' or so before the log. I then bailed out, but it was too late to get to shore.
Had I not grabbed for the rock and just continued to paddle, I perhaps could have slowed/halted my downstream movement and had a little more time to execute a bail out onto the shore. Even if I couldn't, an earlier bail instead of grabbing for the rock would have been better it seems.
"A pretty common accepted tenet in the WW community is that if you are paddling a river by yourself, (without intimate and recent knowledge of what lays ahead), then you must be confident in your ability to avoid any danger within your site line either by eddying out or by altering course. So if the flow is high enough or the river is curvy enough that you are not going to have the time/ability to do this then you need to get out and scout."
Sounds like a wise strategy. I'll keep this in mind. Thanks.
"Prior to getting there you were already nervous about the conditions… not scared but nervous. Listen to your gut."
Yeah I need to listen and develop this sense more. The cold and fast water was intimidating, but then I kept thinking how the guide book said this was an 'excellent run for novices' which made me trust my feelings less. I had also let my guard down a bit thinking I had already made it through the toughest part.
How did you like the Shuna on the water?"
It's awesome. I felt right at home with this paddle. Feels very strong.
In summary, I think the two main mistakes I made were not scouting something I couldn't see, AND not bailing onto shore right away. I was picturing that boulder holding and me making a nice calm exit onto shore. When the boulder pulled into the water (as I now realize they do very easily) I was in a bad spot.Mar 9, 2012 at 8:36 am #1851087
Richard FischelBPL Member
you need to be extra careful. this kinda s#!t comes in 3's.
stay safeMar 9, 2012 at 9:33 am #1851111
Rob EMember
@eatsleepfishLocale: Canada
Hi Dan,
Glad you made it out with just a couple of bruises and a tiny bit of lost gear. Good on you for being open about it and using it as a learning experience, stay safe,Mar 9, 2012 at 9:34 am #1851112
Tad EnglundBPL Member
@bestbuilderLocale: Pacific Northwest
Dan, I'm glad I read your post instead of "BC Packrafter Drowns"
To be honest I would have gone out on my own just like you (overly excited with your new boat, some of us are just like that). You read the available information and made an educated decision. The hard part of the ride was over. Luckily the rest is enjoyable history.
This is a great example of what can go wrong regardless of the research, (kind of like Roger C's- when things go wrong article). Your prior experience did pay off, and a lot of luck.
I have learned from you experience. Also, thank you to those how have added what to do and not do in the future. I've been contemplating getting a packraft also, so this has been helpful information.
Dan thanks for still being here.Mar 9, 2012 at 9:36 am #1851113
Ben CBPL Member
@alexdrewreedLocale: Kentucky
I agree that you shouldn't whitewater paddle alone. I never go alone. Then again, this was supposed to be class I-II water. If possible, its good to know what the water level is and what that means for your river.
Also, if you have a strainer that is impassible, its probably best to bail out early and try to get to shore. I usually assume that there will be a route to cheat the strainer though, especially in class II water.
Nothing like a little danger and icy water to get the adrenaline moving.Mar 9, 2012 at 5:26 pm #1851397
Thanks for the kind word guys. It has been a great learning experience.
This particular strainer/sweeper was impassible (short of leaping over), so the best option would be have been to ferry to the left shore (easy to do) and then make an exit/bail onto shore (somewhat hard to do). The water really dropped off quickly, so a good exit would be needed to land on or very close to the shore and out of the deeper channel.
I think one small part of the mistakes I made here, was not appreciating the seriousness of the situation immediately. It looked like the log was down all the way across, but it was hard to see for sure, and in the back of my mind I was thinking 'this can't really be happening….a way out will present itself'. Had I realized the seriousness of the sweeper/strainer right away, I think I would have made a panicked bail out as soon as I ferried to the shore instead of just grabbing at the shoreline boulders in an attempt to secure the raft and make a nice tidy exit.
The water flow this day was 80 cm's, with 50cm's being a medium flow and 100cms being a high flow for this river. I think the main problems here though was an unlucky fresh log down completely across the channel, combined with someone who isn't used to such rapid decision making on the water. My previous water experience is decent, but never in such a fast paced environment.
Regarding paddling alone, this is a skill I want to develop by improving my knowledge and skills, and heeding advice from others such as R Wilks 'tenet' mentioned previously. I would like to paddle with others in the front country to expand my skills and made me safer when I am alone. Ultimately I'd like to be doing class III-IV front country water, so that I feel comfortable on class II-III when I'm solo in the backcountry and far from help. This particular incident would have sucked a lot more in the backcountry, since instead of walking 40 minutes to a warm car, I would have had to walk hard for hours to get my layers somewhat dry.
TAD: Get yourself a raft. I know a great little river we can hit up. Supposedly it's 'excellent for novices'.Apr 15, 2012 at 6:59 pm #1867582
Got out for a nice class II raft ride today with my wife and her new raft. Nothing super wild but it was good to get out and practice. My wife found it a bit intimidating a first, but she did a nice job. We got out and scouted a lot of stuff….time consuming but nice to know what's coming. There was one spot with a bunch of trees along the outside bend that was nice to portage around.Apr 18, 2012 at 10:20 am #1868604
sean nevesSpectator
@seannevesLocale: City of Salt
I am glad you are okay. My palms were sweating while reading this! I have had many near-misses on the water and I know for a fact they made me a better, more cautious boater. I am always happy (well, happy is not the word here) to see when somebody posts an adventure that does not go as planned and post it in all its glory for all to see. I think it helps us all. For what its worth, I have a few hard won rules from some scary mistakes on the water: travel in twos on whitewater, stay the h*** away form strainers at all costs including equipment loss, stay with the flow and away from holes in an inflatable craft and when in doubt, scout.
I am brand new to packrafting and I have an unusual craft that is very different from the Alpackas (about which I will post soon) but I have may miles in whitewater, mostly in IK's on multi-day trips. I have some hard-shell experience, but mostly rafts and IK's. I think Alpackas walk a fine line between the hard shell experience in maneuverability, but display the terrible hole-punching of ability of IK's. I have a main concern: I am very hesitant to use one with a spray deck. They require a hand to bail (you need two once you're over, one for the paddle and one for the boat) and precious seconds to enact. With thigh straps, you straighten you legs and you're out. I know they are an entanglement hazard, but all of my experience with thigh strap issues have been user error, usually with them being too loose. I hope Alpacka strongly considers a self-bailing with-thigh straps option. The Baylee from Feathercraft looks awesome but heavy. My craft is a very lightweight pontoon made for a short time by Dave Scadden. I have been on light WW only so far and am in the process of making it a worthy craft and will post on my progress soon.
To be clear, I have not used an Alpacka and any input is welcome.Apr 18, 2012 at 5:17 pm #1868800
David ChenaultSpectator
@davecLocale: The West Slope
I found the stock velcro on my '10 Alpacka deck was gentle enough that it ripped open under bodyweight when I filled. I beefed up the waist velcro because it would come open a bit while boofing, and it now takes a bit more force to open when flipped. A worthwhile tradeoff for me.
Regardless, go practice wet exits! Find a baby surf wave, the type kayakers wouldn't bother with, and spend hours following around, learning the limits of the boat, and practicing wet exits and wet reentries without going to shore and in moving water over your head.Apr 21, 2012 at 3:41 pm #1869719
Brian HallBPL Member
I have been ww kayaking for about 6 years now and strainers can be deadly. You never want to be below water in a strainer. If your only option is running into a strainer, you want to lean into it and give everything you have to try and go over the top of it, even if its just you and not the boat. In a kayak, the reason for leaning into the strainer is to get your upstream edge out of the water to keep it from catching and rolling you. Not sure how that would work in a packraft since the edges are different, but I would assume that it'd be the same. Anyways, glad to hear you made it through alright! Looks like fun!Apr 27, 2012 at 2:43 am #1871783
Gregory TopfBPL Member
@notoriousgrtLocale: PNW / Switzerland
Dan – thanks for sharing that harrowing tale. It brought me back to an old, but still vivid memory.
When I was a fearless and indestructible 15 year old, I was fly fishing in the Oregon Cascdes wearing shorts and sneakers. While crossing a sweeper by foot, where there was actually water lapping over the semi-barkless log, I slipped over into the upstream side of the log, was partially sucked under, and instantly hanging on for dear life. The channel had narrowed, the current was strong, and directly downstream in the swift currect was a massive logjam/strainer. Eventually, I succumbed to my fate, and released myself to be sucked under. Even worse, I had let go of my fly rod that I had built myself during the previous Winter. While underwater, I thought about some things (separate book, still to be written). As only fate determined, that day was not my day to pass. I hit bottom with my feet, rocketed up, grabbed a branch, and hoisted my frame upward and out of the stream and onto a dry log. While recovering from the shock, I looked down into the water again and pondered what had just transpired. My peripheral vision picked up a pale orange loop of fly line around my shoe, which I slowly and carefully grasped, pulled, and proceeded to extricate my fly rod from well downstream after pulling all line and backing off of the reel. I couldn't believe that I was alive and still in possession of the precious (my rod), as well as my life.
Today, I live in Switzerland, and mainly travel alone on multiday packrafting/flyfishing expeditions in the western USA backcountry. For situations encountered such as the one faced by Dan, I would definitely confirm the backferrying technique recommended by Richard Nisley. It works when executed correctly. However, if you are trucking along in a fast current and suddenly too close too your obstacle you are still screwed in a packraft, even if you're a strong paddler. To mitigate this, I suggest to just slow down your boat in general. Usually one is not in a race. Anytime I sense or see uncertainty, I immediately do an easy backpaddle to buy time. It sounds really basic, but we don't always do it, and it helps a lot. For backcounrty trips it also helps to keep you dryer and warmer, because rapids will splash you less, the slower your going.Apr 28, 2012 at 8:19 pm #1872311
Vivid story…thanks for sharing the story and tips Gregory. Good to get your thoughts on rafting safety.May 4, 2012 at 12:18 am #1874243
Mike WBPL Member
@skopeoLocale: British Columbia
Dan – Thanks for posting this, your story totally freaked me. The odds of slipping through a strainer and coming out relatively unscathed are not great, I'm glad you were one of the lucky ones.
As an avid fisherman, I've spent 40 years fishing the west coast rivers and know the dangers. A couple of suggestions to add to the ones already offered by others. I always carry extra clothes in a dry bag because you can become hypothermic very quickly and exercise isn't always an option (you could have been hurt and had to wait for assistance). The clothes don't have to weigh much if you are concerned about weight and I carry one set that can be used by anybody in my group.
The other thing that I would add is that you mentioned you walked to a road that ran along the river. As a novice, I would suggest that you scout the river with a topo map and mark the areas of concern before your drift. Yes it takes a bit of trip planning to do this but if it saves you from another post like this (or worse) then it's time well spent.
Keep the trip reports coming, I always enjoy your posts!May 19, 2012 at 6:04 pm #1879336
Me and friend had a great day on some local water today (Green River, Whistler, BC). He was more experienced that I, which was great for learning.
We did this 45min run twice. He led the first, I led the second time. The second run was super enjoyable because we knew it was clear of logs etc.
Not very many pics today…we were too busy rafting.
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KNS Precision is the brainchild of a master machinist and a life-long firearms enthusiast who understood there is always room for improvement and innovation in firearm parts. In 1999, these two partners set out to design innovative new products for the AR-15/M-16 platform, and they haven't looked back since. Products like the excellent KNS anti rotation pins combat pin breakage or pin "walking." KNS trigger pins are a must for any competitive shooter, but private users or hobbyists will find them just as valuable whenever they go out to the range for extended firing sessions. Why worry about a pin break when you can get a tough KNS pin at a great price direct from Webyshops. In our mission to save you more, we'll even ship everything to you with free ground shipping if your order qualifies. You never know if or when your firing pin will break, but you can be prepared with KNS Precision. Receive FREE Ground Shipping on all orders over $39.99.
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