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Posted on 11/30/2012 10:32:42 AM PST by AmericanSamurai
SANTA CLARA -- Alex Smith got right to the point Thursday.
"It sucks," he said. "I don't know what else to say."
Speaking for the first time since 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh confirmed Colin Kaepernick's "hot hand" would start at quarterback Sunday at St. Louis, the demoted Smith appeared agitated over once again losing a job that's repeatedly been swiped from his grasp since he was drafted first overall in 2005.
"I feel the only thing I did to lose my job was get a concussion," said Smith, who sustained that brain trauma Nov. 11 during the second quarter of a 24-24 tie with the Rams.
Smith did not, however, blast Harbaugh's communication methods.
"We sat down and talked. It wasn't a one-sentence thing," Smith said. "He explained where he was coming from, felt it was a difficult situation but wanted to go in this direction."
Did Smith try to talk Harbaugh out of starting Kaepernick for a third straight game?
"No, I mean at this point, what's talk going to do?" Smith responded. "I felt he made up his mind. He's not a guy who didn't put thought into it already."
In his last full outing, Smith completed 18 of 19 passes in a 24-3 win at Arizona, earning him a first-career NFC Offensive Player of the Week award. Dating back to halftime of an Oct. 18 win over Seattle, Smith is 35 of 38 for 385 yards with five touchdowns and one interception.
"It's tough. You state your case with your play, and I feel I've done that," said Smith, who leads the NFL with a 70.0 completion percentage and ranks fifth with a 104.1 passer rating.
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How about, "They pay me seven figures whether I can play or not. How sweet is that?"
Alex Smith: You suck.
You sure this is the website for you?
Oh, not at all - I can certainly understand his desire to compete. Corssing over to whining is unmanly, though - suck it up, be grateful for your outsized salary, and work to get back on the field.
I love a god pouter.. he got a concussion and loss his job.. what's he pulling in this year?
I would think a coach would like the fastest horse running to be in the race.. besides funny things happen on the field.. be ready. ask Lefwich.
I would add that Jim Harbaugh is one of the biggest jerks ever to graduate from That University Up North, and that's saying a lot.
saw an interview and he sure thought he should have been the starter as soon as he was cleared.. whiny, ehhh.. more .. stuned.. ;-]
Smith is a good, though pedestrian, NFL quarterback assisted immeasurably by a great 49er defense. SF fans have long been begging for a QB that matches their D. Kaepernick doesn't just have a "hot hand," he can improvise and capably run when necessary, two qualities Smith lacks. Having watched him closely since his Nevada days, it's obvious Kaepernick is the real deal.
We'll take him!
Signed "still missing Kurt Warner in Arizona"
Let's say you are handsomely-paid to shoot guns for a living, and you love shooting guns. Someone tells you that you cannot shoot guns anymore, but will still get paid. The suck, or not?
Why is he a jerk, because he's not sensitive? The guy has turned around a losing 49er team in short notice.
Bravo. [Not sarcasm.]
Maybe if Alex thinks his situation sucks he should realize that things could be worse and he could be an Oakland Raida. :P
I'm not particularly responding to your post. I'm only using your post to submit this to everyone:
I suppose it has gone over everyone's heads that Harbaugh coached Kaepernick during Kaepernick's freshman year at Stanford. I haven't heard even one sports journalist to say this.
After his freshman year he transferred to Nevada. I have never heard an explanation as to why he transferred to Nevada. It could have been that Kaepernick saw Andrew Luck staring over his shoulder.
Also, Harbaugh thought a lot of Kaepernick even in his freshman year at Stanford. I was not surprised when San Franciso traded up to get him. Harbaugh saw something in him that no one else saw.
No, it's because he went to Michigan.
OTOH, maybe Smith wouldn't throw away games as quickly as Carson Palmer does...
We have a Sanchez and a broken Tebow.
We'll take anyone.
How about, "They pay me seven figures whether I can play or not. How sweet is that?"
So you want him to act like a a-hole instead?
No, not at all. He's a grown man, a well-paid grown man. Grown men don't whine to reporters. Some things are best kept between an employee and his boss.
Same thought I had.
In his last full outing, Smith completed 18 of 19 passes in a 24-3 win at Arizona, earning him a first-career NFC Offensive Player of the Week award.
What the hell more is the guy supposed to do? Frankly I do feel bad for Alex. He just can't seem to catch a break. For the fisrt few years of his career he was put back into the the game while still injured, never had the same offensive coordinator two years in a row, and played for some awful coaches. So he finally gets some good management, takes the team to the NFC Championship game last year, has them 6-2 this year and loses his starting job due to getting a concussion? I don't think it's whining to say that sucks, because it does.
Exactly, Smith will never be able to live this down with Coach Harbaugh. The only way Smith will get his starting job back is if Colin has a complete meltdown.
Unfortunately, that is exactly Smith's problem, he just isn't very exciting. He's the Wally Cleaver of NFL QB's.
Bottom line: Smith will not be in SF next season. He'll be starting for another team. And he'll be fine. Unless his O-line sucks.
Harbaugh is going to screw himself up big time going with Kapernick....The kid has talent, but is inexperienced and will make some critical mistakes in the playoffs...not that Alex Smith won't, but Harbaugh is being very arrogant and short sighted turning this thing over to Kaperinick....and yes...Capt Comeback is even a bigger jerk as a coach than he was as a player...that's saying a lot...
I think he's trying to redeem "Da Bears" image as head coach for the 49ers after his unsuccessful predecessor. :P
Maybe he should get some tats and start fighting pitbulls.
Are you sure about that? According to Wiki, " Kaepernick received his lone football scholarship offer from the University of Nevada". He was a redshirt freshman there.
The Jets have a much larger issue than just a QB. It's called Rex Ryan.
Took his players a couple of years to figure it out, but they are free to run amuck and he can't or won't do anything about it.
Except tell us how he's gonna fix it. And tell Bart not to say mean things about Jets fans.
Down here in Ravensland, he was not really thought of as head coach material. But I can't really nya nya nya until our Harbaugh and Flacco win the big 'un. And no, that's not a prediction.
The headline is rather misleading. The reporter asked him how he felt about not starting, and his reply was, "it sucks," and that he'd rather play. Smith also went on to say he's in favor of whatever helps the team win.
Smith isn't being a prick about this... he's handing this situation rather well. While it is a difficult situation, it just so happened that the Niners have a guy out there.. Kaepernick.. who brings a more aggressive game plan.
Smith has rolled up what — for him — have been great statistics. But the key is what happens when you're placed against a team that brings heat. It wasn't Kaepernick who QB'd the Niners to a 26-3 loss to the Giants or to that earler loss to the Vikes. Smith is a decent quarterback with moderate-to-good pro-level abilities and middling arm strength and scrambling ability. Harbaugh has done an incredible job rehabilitating him and bringing him up to the level he is. But the unfortunate circumstance of Smith's concussion opened up an opportunity to see what else is out there. And Harbaugh sees Kaepernick as the guy with the ability to take it further.
This situation would've been so much easier had Smith's stats been in the doldrums like past years, but... it's the pros... and sometimes circumstances do indeed suck.
I don't see any bad guys in this scenario at all, it's just the way things turned out. What's Smith supposed to say, "Oh, it's cool getting benched cuz I get paid anyway". He didn't rag on Harbaguh (whining) he just said it sucks, which I would expect any competitor to say. Harbaugh is doing what he thinks is best for the team. When Harbaugh was playing here in Indianapolis he was always a class act. Football is a business and life isn't always fair. I wouldn't be suprised to see Smith starting at Qb for a different team next year, so just like Brees, he'll probably get a second chance to win the big one with another team.
Not sure how you've come to that conclusion... the Niner players like and respect Harbaugh.
Jerry Jones pick up the white phone. Pedestrian describes Romo and Sanchez.
(caveat I am not a Cowboy fan)
not so much this year,,, but yeah
a little competition should make them better.
not so much this year,,, but yeah
a little competition should make them better.
Perhaps you misunderstood my meaning.
Smith getting up there and saying what you suggested IS acting like an a-hole.
Of course, I don't buy into your notion that he's whining because he said it sucks. Sounds like an honest appraisal to me for a guy who led the team to a 19-5-1 record during his tenure as starter.
And the only QB in history who doesn't get credit for leading his team to the playoffs (and eventual SB victory) is Trent Dilfer.
Had Harbaugh gone right back to Smith and benched Kaepernick, only to see Smith throw a handful of picks to the Saints, the same complainers would be second-guessing that move, too.
Stats only tell a part of the story. Smith was playing good this season, but he has limited awareness in the pocket, and checks down to safe receivers too often. When a play breaks down, Smith gets tackled or throws the ball away. Kap scrambles and makes a play.
It's a ballsy move by Harbaugh. He's going to look stupid if the league gets Kap figured out. In some ways it's similar to when Montana replace Steve Deberg as the 9ers starting QB. The difference is that Walsh made the move with a losing team. This years 9ers are well on their way to the playoffs.
I do feel bad for Smith. He's a good kid and a pretty good QB. Then again Wally Pip was probably a good guy, too. Hopefully, Smith can go to a team that needs a starter.
Ok, it is possible, though I have yet to see it. The AZ line has been practicing the "Matador" style... wave your cape and let the defender run by!... and is slowly remembering the need to block...
Kolb might yet step up.. so far just not seeing it. Then again, it's hard to see through tears :)
Exactly... and nobody gave Smith a better shot at self-actualizing than Harbaugh. Because of the work the Niners' coaching staff put into that reclamation effort, Smith will be able to land a starting job and a nice salary with a team who needs him. Absolutely, he will be starting next year.
I think that you had better check something other than Wiki.
I remember when Kaepernick was a freshman at Stanford and beat USC by the score of 14-13. It was considered to be a huge upset.
After the game, the sports journalist on the field asked to speak to Harbaugh. He pointed at Kaepernick and said, "Speak to him. He did it. Not me," or words to that effect.
I would gladly take Smith on my team. Finding a league-tested quarterback can be very difficult. Just ask many of the current losing teams. If I was the Eagles GM I'd be on that phone in a heartbeat. And the Jets, Holy Crap! Don't criticize him for making money. They ALL make money. And you guys pay for it. Man, you guys are so hyper-critical it's bizarre. It's sports. Sports is entertainment. Jeeze, mellow out and try to enjoy it. You guys are way too serious!
That's a very reasoned position. I appreciate the insight... although I still hate the 49ers because of their first game this season.
I can think of one Don Majkowski, who lost his starting QB job for good after injuring his ankle early in the 1992 season. The sub who replaced him: Brett Favre.
**it happens.
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10 March 2011
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44 comments:
- AnonymousMarch 10, 2011 at 3:41 PM
Thank you for your advocacy of this, the most important young man of this era.
ReplyDelete - AnonymousMarch 10, 2011 at 4:00 PM
How can we judge other country's and their leaders when we allow this? Are we really any better?
ReplyDelete It continues to be bizarre...watching an America that styles itself as an advocate of justice mistreating someone who allegedly acted in support of aiding the process of justice. At the same time, America does nothing about the crimes that have been revealed by the leaks attributed to Manning. The US govt is doubling down on behaving like a corrupt amoral state.
ReplyDelete- AnonymousMarch 10, 2011 at 4:35 PM
Please convey my love to Bradley.
I am a fellow citizen and am forever indebted to Bradley.
I pray we can extract him from the custody of these sadistic sociopathic captors of his before they destroy him further.
I am appalled that we are speaking of agents of the U.S. as the perpetrators of these unAmerican activities. - AnonymousMarch 10, 2011 at 5:42 PM
I am appalled by how we treat a citizen. Torture has become a common tool for our government. They got so used to it in GTMO, CIA prisons, and Abu Ghraib that now they use torture on US soil on a US citizen. This is more than tragic, this is dangerous.
ReplyDelete - AnonymousMarch 10, 2011 at 5:43 PM
Good luck w/ your efforts on behalf of PfC Manning. Seriously. What's happening is insane and I hope to God that someone in a position of authority ends this madness and provides for Manning to be treated with respect and dignity. We are not the SS.
ReplyDelete - AnonymousMarch 10, 2011 at 6:25 PM
Thank you for your work. Bradley Manning is a True American Hero. As an American citizen I am Outraged by the actions of my government and the treatment of one of their own citizens and soldiers. Keep up the fight, truth and justice is on your side.
www.politicalfailblog.com - AnonymousMarch 10, 2011 at 6:50 PM
Bradley Manning's treatment is a crime against humanity
ReplyDelete - AnonymousMarch 10, 2011 at 7:30 PM
So now they are making him wear a dress, it just keeps getting worse! What kind of garment meant for the suicidal is so uncomfortable? Are you sure this is really not a torture garment? Please get the manufacturer and model and style and verify that what Manning is actually being forced to wear is what they claim and that is a legitimate garment used at mental health facilities.
ReplyDelete - AnonymousMarch 10, 2011 at 7:52 PM
It's a sad day for the US when we treat (alleged) terrorists better at Gitmo than one of our own at Quantico.
ReplyDelete Yes, I am grateful to you, too. Please give him the very best defense possible. Perhaps you have seen the ridiculous Forbes blogger's post re Bradley, I responded thusly:
STRANGE article. You fail to mention that they have charged with a death penalty offense. Interesting omission since it happened before the stripping.
Also, you don't seem to think that stripping a person naked – in ANY circumstance – is totally wrong. He is watched in person and on video camera the entire time.
He stripped the US naked; therefore, he must be stripped naked.
He exposed WAR CRIMES (and we surely don't know if he released the cables, not determined !!) – so now HE must be the criminal.
This is an Orwellian world, so to get to the TRUTH about government transparency over WAR CRIMES.
WE ARE BRADLEY MANNING, we want truth.
I AM BRADLEY MANNING, I need truth.
Why do not mention that a US Congressman is being denied access, btw?
We already know that anyone sticking up for Bradley is going to be made to look like a "fringy" – we know about the H.B.Gary contract/plan. All our credibility is to be taken away so those sitting on the fence do not listen to 'our' message. This is a gross HUMAN RIGHTS violation. The US government is making the US look as stoopid as it is possible to look by doing these extrajudicial shenanigans against someone NOT convicted of anything at all. They wish to subvert the court of public opinion. But we shall keep speaking- AnonymousMarch 10, 2011 at 9:56 PM
If we in Australia treat our animals like Mr Manning has treated, we would most likely be put in jail for cruelty. Can it not be proven that psychological torture can permanently damage the mental capacity of a person? We are talking about textbook techniques, strip searches, sleep regimes, isolation, sensory deprivation etc.
ReplyDelete - AnonymousMarch 10, 2011 at 11:47 PM
Where is the reply from the military to the original complaint that you and Manning submitted weeks ago? Without their statement, your appeal doesn't make much sense and isn't really relevant. The person reviewing your original complaint would have also had access to all the records your appeal cites.
I think it's awfully convenient that you fail to include the reason for the military's denial of status change in any of your postings, so that we can't determine for ourselves if there are other things besides the recommendations of the psychiatrists about Manning's current mental status that are affecting their insistence on keeping him on a POI watch. And I believe he's a MCD status because of the seriousness of the crime he's accused of committing, and so that's not going to change due to a request from you - the only way that'd change would be if he were somehow to be charged with something other than endangering national security, and you know that's not happenin'!
So, please, tell us why they said they were rejecting the request to remove the POI. Otherwise, you're failing to fully inform us, and that makes it look like you're hiding something - well, that is, to anyone who's more interested in the truth than in pushing an agenda. - AnonymousMarch 11, 2011 at 12:05 AM
Free Bradley Manning - US Ambassador Residence, Lisboa 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv2JlTztEaE - AnonymousMarch 11, 2011 at 1:58 AM
Please convey to Bradley: we all know they are trying to fuck you up, so stay strong. The world is (still) watching ...
ReplyDelete @ Anonymous March 10, 2011 9:56 PM
"And I believe he's a MCD status because of the seriousness of the crime he's accused of committing, and so that's not going to change due to a request from you - the only way that'd change would be if he were somehow to be charged with something other than endangering national security, and you know that's not happenin'!"
Except MCD status is supposed to apply to those who show a likelihood of escaping under Medium Custody Level and more lenient levels of detention. AFAIK, Bradley hasn't shown such a likelihood.
"So, please, tell us why they said they were rejecting the request to remove the POI."
How do you know the Military authorities told Attorney Coombs the reason why they rejected the request? We don't know that!The Pentagon states that Pfc Bradley Manning *chose* to stand at attention utterly naked instead of being required to.
Unless proven otherwise, I call damned-double-LIES on that statement.- AnonymousMarch 11, 2011 at 7:43 PM
Well, the president is now on the record as supporting the Marines in their mistreatment of PFC Manning. Man, I'm tired of torture-fetish war criminals in the Oval Office.
ReplyDelete - AnonymousMarch 11, 2011 at 8:03 PM
No, ed-m, you're wrong! Bradley Manning is a perfect example of one of the reasons that Maximum Custody status is used. It's not just for people who are an extra escape risk - it's for people who, if they did escape, could pose a risk to national security. Given the charges he's facing, he's a perfect candidate for that status! Really, you should look things up before you assert things that aren't true!
And how do I know that they told him why they were rejected the request? Because that's what happens when a request is denied. They give a reason or multiple reasons. And if you read their appeal, you'll see that they were replying to specific things in that rejection. The failure to provide that rejection is significant. - AnonymousMarch 12, 2011 at 1:47 AM
Stop torturing the guy and try him by court martial or release him.
ReplyDelete - AnonymousMarch 12, 2011 at 3:35 PM
Uh-huh. Must say very professional, tough and brave guards/military staff. I'm impressed ! >sarcasm<
Let's hope the Secretary of the Navy, Ray Mabus, doesn't have a God complex and isn't a sadist either, but DOES have the balls to finally put an end to Bradley's unjustified and unduly harsh treatment!
Mark I agree with the manner in which the government is holding Pvt. Manning.
Because if Pvt Manning were to succeed in taking in his own life in custody, nobody..and I mean nobody, would believe it was suicide.
Regardless of proof to the contrary, the same folks who condemn the government's treatment of Pvt Manning would proclaim that the military killed the young Pvt in custody to "shut him up", and keep him from "really spilling the beans in court."
The government and military's handling of the defendant is more than justified. If Pvt Manning were to fall down the stairs, Glenn Greenwald would claim that Obama made it happen...- Bill JablonskiMarch 13, 2011 at 4:16 PM
Obama wins and all the anti-war protesters all go home. OUR GUY WON! WAR'S OVER! Now they treat one of our own fellow Americans, (Who has not been charged with ANYTHING) this way. Is this the country you want your kids to grow up in? The "soldiers" if in fact they are from our military, that are treating Mr. Manning this way should be tried as war criminals along with Obama, Bush and the whole lot. The only thing that has changed since Obama is the name on the door.
ReplyDelete - AnonymousMarch 13, 2011 at 5:57 PM
@ anonymous - March 11, 2011 7:43 PM
"Bradley Manning is a perfect example of one of the reasons that Maximum Custody status is used. It's not just for people who are an extra escape risk - it's for people who, if they did escape, could pose a risk to national security. Given the charges he's facing, he's a perfect candidate for that status!"
Uhm ... does it not make you at least a little suspicious that it took 8 month after his arrest to come up with this "aiding the enemy" charge, amongst others? It also does not make you at least a little suspicious that even after such a long time they still fail to tie him to Wikileaks/Assange? It also does not bother you and doesn't make you at least a little suspicious that your gov comes up with "threatens our national security" that often? It also does not make you at least a little suspicious that your government has obviously a tendency to over-classify information and as such withholds a lot of informations – be it important or not – from you? ... under the disguise of "national security", of course! Just a few out of MANY MANY MANY questions ... and just wondering.
Well, we here have learned that "will threaten our national security" is the all-purpose get out clause which only means, something nasty has happened but we don't wanna talk about it 'cos somebody high up may have to take the blame. In order to make this convenient national security excuse work you only have to create an atmosphere of fear and play the panic-card whenever it suits your agenda, which is what happens since 9/11 and people buy it, even worse they blindly join the governments/politicians chant and quickly shift focus and condemnation on a convenient target, a low ranking soldier, and thus they pave the way for their own government to cover up their own blunder and serve their own governments agenda to distract attention away from what should've actually led to HUGE debates ... all the lies, wrongdoings or even (war-) crimes that got revealed. Any dictator were glad of having such loyal non-questioning citizens! Just saying ...
Mark (GER) - AnonymousMarch 13, 2011 at 10:48 PM
**Uhm ... does it not make you at least a little suspicious that it took 8 month after his arrest to come up with this "aiding the enemy" charge, amongst others?**
No, not at all, because I don't see conspiracy theories lurking behind every door! The fact is that it takes a while to investigate computer crimes. He had already been charged with some crimes back when he was first detained! They did a thourough search of all his computer activities so they could determine when, where and how he'd stolen material. It took a while for them to do that. They couldn't simply take his admissions to a couple of other hackers that he'd stolen material - they had to document how they traced back his actions to document that he was almost certainly he who did this, and I'm sure that's what they were doing! Unless you think that this conspiracy has many members, all of them determined to lie about his guilt, that is!
**It also does not make you at least a little suspicious that even after such a long time they still fail to tie him to Wikileaks/Assange?**
Nope. What he did from private computers isn't nearly as traceable as what he did when he stole classified info from gov't computers. What they almost certainly DO know is that he gave those documents to WikiLeaks, but they likely can't prove it in order to charge Julian Assange.
It also does not bother you and doesn't make you at least a little suspicious that your gov comes up with "threatens our national security" that often?
Releasing tens of thousands of classified documents almost certainly threatens our national security! It's virtually certain that Manning did this, and so him being charged with crimes he's almost certainly guilty of doesn't bother me in the least - why should it? We aren't talking about any other event in US history - the fact that the charge has been inaccurately used in the past doesn't mean that it's being unfairly used in this case! That's your CT working overtime! Not all "forced nudity" is bad. Prisons and mental health facilities used forced nudity at times in appropriate ways - the fact that it can also be used inappropriately doesn't mean that this time it was used inappropriately! That's a leap you make that can't be sustained with the evidence we have, because we have no evidence that it's been used in the wrong way - it was used after he exhibited behavior.
It's undeniable that Bush's administration horribly misused the "national security" threat, and violated the law in many ways. That doesn't mean that the Obama administration is doing that now. Manning was a low-ranking member of the military, and they need to figure out how to prevent someone else from doing what he did, and those whose careless procedures allowed it to happen should be disciplined/fired/educated! None of that excuses what Manning almost certainly did. The idea that I don't question our gov't is unsupportable, given my comments. You can't legitimately come away with that interpretation about me given what I've written, yet you did. The flaw is yours. (A letter sent to the President and other Officials.)
Mr. President,
Please properly investigate the possible/probable inhumane treatment of PFC Bradley E. Manning, being detained in the United States Marine Corps Quantico Brig in Virginia.
Common sense tells the conscience that possible/probable inhumane treatment must be fully investigated.
Facts of the case, as reported by David Coombs, PFC Manning's defense lawyer, indicate that:
Pentagon Press Secretary Geoff Morrell has stated that PFC Manning has been a model detainee.
Brig forensic psychiatrists have continually stated that there's no mental health justifications for the extreme conditions of PFC Manning's detainment.
Quantico Commander Colonel Daniel Choike has denied a fair request by PFC Manning to be removed from the medically unnecessary extreme current conditions of his detainment.
Chief Warrant Officer Denise Barnes used a sarcastic remark made by PFC Manning, (referring to the waistband in his shorts), as an unfair convenient excuse to unjustifiably further increase the extreme conditions of PFC Manning's detainment, with no contact of, nor recommendations from, the mental health staff to do so.
The Brig (excluding mental health staff as they don't recommend the extreme current conditions) is using loopholes in policies to unfairly increase the extreme conditions of PFC Manning's detainment.
These extreme conditions, inconsistencies between policies, and possible/probable abuse of authority, must be investigated.
The communication and exercise and sleep of PFC Manning is being severely restricted to the viable concern of inhumaneness.
Hence, to now rely on the sole assurance of those allegedly behind this alleged mistreatment, does nothing to justly bring the truth to light.
Our country's principles of conscientiousness, deserve to have a serious matter such as this be fully investigated by unbiased independent third parties.
Again, please properly investigate the possible/probable inhumane treatment of PFC Bradley Manning.
Anything less falls short of truth and justness, and hence the American way, as your words so often convey.
Sally Kline- AnonymousMarch 15, 2011 at 7:19 PM
@anonymous - March 13, 2011 5:57 PM - Part 1
Yep, I'm well-aware of the fact that it takes time to find out WHEN, WHERE, HOW and WHAT exactly was stolen by WHOM. And yep, he had already been charged with some ... article when he was first detained. Nonetheless, since they say they still fail to tie him to WikiLeaks they do NOT almost certainly know that it was Manning who gave those documents to WikiLeaks. So, either they lie for whatever reason and CAN tie him to WikiLeaks but if that were the case why haven't they already made a request on extradition of Assange (I mean they made no secret of their determination/eagerness to get this guy) - doesn't make sense, OR since they need to provide a complete chain of evidence and at this point the chain of evidence obviously breaks and an allegedly offered plea bargain got refused and they need to make sure to "succeed" ... isn't it possible that they simply don't have (enough) evidences to jail him for a very long time/rest of his life and so they just try to increase the pressure on Manning more and more by subjecting him to such unduly harsh treatment and finally coming up with this "aiding the enemy" charge in order to get him into a plea bargain or something? I don't know, neither do you! But fact is, it can't be excluded with certainty ! I, personally, can't help it but say what's going on looks like ... softening him up , let alone making an example of him and thus trying to ensure that NOBODY EVER even considers doing what they accuse him of.
You're saying releasing tens of thousands of classified documents almost certainly threatens your national security. What is your statement based on? If it's just due to the number of documents it's just an assumption on your part!
Also, what makes you think that it's virtually certain that Manning did this? What is it based on? Simply because he's being charged of it? Fact is, you do not know what Manning almost certainly did because you do not know the evidences ... unless you're part of the prosecution team either way, neither do I.
And for "the fact that the charge has been inaccurately used in the past doesn't mean that it's being unfairly used in this case", true but it also can't be excluded !
Mark (GER) - AnonymousMarch 15, 2011 at 7:20 PM
@anonymous - March 13, 2011 5:57 PM - Part 2
As for "forced nudity". Uhm, do I get it right that you basically rather believe what your gov/DoD or some military staff say about that incident than what a psychologist says who ACTUALLY knows what he's talking about? How can you tell it was used after he "exhibited behavior" when even the Brig psychiatrist said that his statement was in no way prompted by a psychiatric condition and assessed him as a "low risk and requiring only routine outpatient follow-up [with] no need for ... closer clinical observation."?
Also, if everything's so fine over there and they don't have ANYTHING to hide then why is it obviously THAT difficult for Congressman Dennis Kucinich to be able to visit Bradley Manning? Only bureaucratic hurdles? One would assume that he, as a member of the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, would have gotten the okay in the meantime after repeatedly reguests and such a long time. Otherwise, why exists a Committee on Oversight and Government Reform in the first place if someone who is a member gets hindered/prevented (for whatever reason) from doing his duty to conduct effective oversight? Well, actually I'd say being a member of such a committee he shouldn't need an okay in the first place and just be able to visit him whenever he wants even its the military.
But the most "funny" thing is, that they say they only want to prevent him from harming himself when in fact the way he's being treated (prolonged solitary confinement) is well-known for causing mental disorders or, actually needless to say, that it is almost certain exacerbating already existing mental health problems.
Side-note, I'm not into CT's at all.
Mark (GER) - AnonymousMarch 15, 2011 at 9:55 PM
I am praying for PFC Manning. The reader response to the stories I have read about him (mainly progressive publications) has been overwhelmingly positive and supportive.
ReplyDelete - AnonymousMarch 16, 2011 at 4:18 PM
Mark GER, you just aren't being honest. When classified documents are leaked and then published, the US Gov't is going to go after the person they have reason to believe that stole the documents as well as the person/group that publicly displayed those documents. Your implication that they have no reason to go after both Manning and Assange is ridiculous! They don't have to tie him to WikiLeaks in order for him to be found guilty - the stealing of the documents and the resultant leaking is sufficient.
And yes, clearly, in this case, you are allowing yourself to believe in theories that aren't supported by any facts - that's the very definition of CT. There is only supposition that Manning is being treated the way he's being treated in an attempt to coerce him to behave in a different way than what he'd choose to do without that coercion/torture, but there's absolutely no evidence whatsoever that it's the case! The fact that it "looks like" it could be them trying to soften Manning up doesn't mean that it IS that - it could be, and the evidence we have tells us that it is simply them holding someone who is charged with endangering national security who is also fragile when it comes to his mental health!
Believing that, rather than believing the evidence we do have, that Manning is being stripped at nighttime because he suggested that he could use the elastic from his boxers to hurt/kill himself at nighttime, is CT! Anyone who has been put on a suicide watch 3 times over 8 months, anyone who was in such a fragile and questionable mental health status before he was ever arrested that the military removed the bolt from his rifle in a war zone, that kind of a person is fully eligible to be treated like someone who could, at any time, revert into a pattern of behavior that could include a desire to commit suicide. Since he has shown that propensity to be suicidal, the fact that he might not, at this very minute, be suicidal doesn't mean that he shouldn't be closely guarded at all times, and shouldn't have his boxers removed at night after he's basically threatened his guards that he could use them to hurt himself!
That's the evidence we have. It wasn't some random act on the part of the brig - it was in direct response to behavior he exhibited!
And with regard to what the psychologists have said? All we have is the lawyer's cropped comments to rely upon, rather than the full findings. On top of that, the fact that the therapist has said that he is a "low risk" - not "no" risk, but a "low risk" - doesn't change the facts that I explained above - that he has shown that he can suddenly become suicidal and a threat to his own well being multiple times in 8 months, and that he was a risk to his own well being before he was arrested as well! It's his pattern of behavior that is causing their reactions to that pattern of behavior! The fact that there's no evidence otherwise should lead to the same conclusions that I have reached. My conclusion is not that there's no chance that the military is torturing him in order to gain info - it's that there's NO EVIDENCE that they're doing that, and so concluding that he's being tortured is BOGUS! It's not my argument that is full of holes here - it's yours, and those like you. - AnonymousMarch 16, 2011 at 4:18 PM
And when it was shown that he and his lawyer would dishonestly portray what was going on (Manning's whine that he had to stand in the doorway and be humiliated - when the evidence we have is that he wasn't required to stand in the doorway at all!), the military said "fine, you want to pretend that you're being humiliated, on purpose, in an effort to coerce you to behave in a certain way? Good - we'll give you something to cover yourself up with. You likely would have been more comfortable sleeping in the nude, and then getting your clothes back in the morning, but we aren't going to allow you to pretend that we're abusing you by trying to ensure that you don't hurt yourself. We'll continue to try to ensure that you don't hurt yourself by denying you the 'weapon' you asserted you could use to hurt yourself at nighttime, but we won't allow you to remain naked at night - because our effort wasn't to make you be naked - it was to make you be as safe as possible!"
I mean, really, all I'm doing here is exposing the truth and discussing the evidence we have. It ain't rocket science to see that, given the brig's behavior, making Manning be naked wasn't done in an effort to humiliate him or coerce him. It was done to stop him from carrying out a suggested method of hurting himself - a suggestion he himself made, confirmed by his own lawyer!
If you check out what mental health professionals say, they'll tell you that one can't ignore comments like that, and that one should remove the potential threatening item (the boxers). - AnonymousMarch 17, 2011 at 3:54 AM
We wish Bradley Manning and his family all the best, the people of the world should be the judge, the truth must be told.
(Kulin Nation of our Original People)- Australia - AnonymousMarch 17, 2011 at 7:12 PM
@anonymous -- Part1
"Your implication that they have no reason to go after both Manning and Assange is ridiculous!"
Huh? Where did you get that from?
I said they need to be able to connect Manning to WikiLeaks for the charges of "aiding the enemy", for instance. If they can't tie him to WL they can't prove that it was him who gave those documents to WL and the "aiding the enemy" charge, for instance, is just based on assumptions. Simply because the documents showed up there doesn't mean WL got them from Manning! Hence, if they can't tie him to WL the chain of evidence breaks at this point. Consequently, each charge that is build on the ASSUMPTION that it was him who gave those documents to WL should go south in a heart-beat! If it's enough in the Military Justice System to simply put two and two together – like, it showed up on WL and we can prove that he downloaded those documents ...consequently it must be him who gave it to WL WITHOUT presenting evidences that prove without a reasonable doubt that it was him (and again, for that they need to be able to tie him to WL), then it will of course suffice to jail him for the rest of life but NOT because his guilt has been proven. It will suffice to jail him for the rest of his life because of a system where assumptions suffice (which ensures a guilty verdict on a charge) rather than evidences. Just being able to prove that he downloaded classified documents without permission and some other little offenses will hardly be enough to jail him for the rest of his life. Hence ...
I also said they need to be able to connect Manning to WL in order to be able to file charges against Assange and be able to make a request on extradition. If they want to go after WL/Assange simply because WL publicy displayed those documents they also would've to go after the NYT since they also published those documents ...which they found out they can't. So, they need to look for a charge where they can get Assange but not the NYT and for that they need to be able to connect Manning to WikiLeaks/Assange.
That's why I also asked why they haven't already made a request on extradition of Assange since they made no secret of their determination/eagerness to get this guy if they actually can tie Manning to WL. (explanation above). The Assange case depends on Manning. That was meant. Maybe I wasn't clear enough.
Mark - AnonymousMarch 17, 2011 at 7:26 PM
Anonymous Part 2
As for Manning, it was a sarcastic remark which wasn't surprising considering the circumstances, is all. The guards just took it seriously and the Commander decided for whatever reason to rather rely on what the guards told him than on a psychiatrist who ACTUALLY has the skills to evaluate Manning. Since it was not done based on a psychiatric standpoint it was arbitrariness! You also forgot to mention that even the military stated that they couldn't give him his clothes back prior the morning inspection where he had to stand a parade rest because that would mean they had to wake him up earlier and that this is not possible with the result that he had no choice but to present himself naked. So, they KNEW that he had to present himself naked already the evening before! AFTER it came out they offered him some kind of smock and he had the choice to either wear it over night or not to wear it with the previous consequence and so he chose to wear it.
I know that mental health professionals say that one can't ignore comments like that. Nonetheless thing is, the theory isn't a prayer book that you just follow blindly without considering the circumstances that causes a person to make such a remark and also without having the skills to actually evaluate this person! What matters is what the Brig psychiatrist say who actually see and talk to him and thus are able to evaluate Manning! NOTHING justifies to simply override the repeated Brig psychiatrist's recommendations over and over again simply because the guards may report to the Commander otherwise! If a psychiatrist, as an expert on this field, isn't the person you can rely on in this regard how can you rely on the statements of some military staff / guards who have NO idea what they're talking about?! If the Brig psychiatrist would recommend to continue with those conditions - he's the guy who should know. But he repeatedly said otherwise, except once!
Also, if you read the rebuttal and are at least a little objective you can't help but come to the conclusion that what A did on 18 Jan was punishment because Manning dared to respond to A's "I'm the Commander..... etc." remark "you still have to follow Brig procedures." and "everyone has a boss that they have to answer to." (this kind of behavior is called mouthing off, something military guys do not like at all! No secret. That it was only the truth doesn't matter.) However, NOTHING can justify A's order to put him on Suicide Risk Status after that incident!
And so there's only ONE incident left in 8 month where it was recommended to remain him on POI (main criteria that it seemed he was not doing well).
I get the impression that you think the way he's being treated/held is okay in order to prevent him from harming himself even though the way he's being treated (prolonged solitary confinement in particular) is well-known for causing mental disorders or, actually needless to say, that it is almost certain exacerbating already existing mental health problems.
You say your conclusion is not that there's no chance that the military is torturing him in order to gain info - it's that there's NO EVIDENCE that they're doing that. Well, with all the secrecy that is going on – which is btw a precondition for abuse – no surprise that there're no evidences, don't you think? How could be? Just look at Kucinich's repeated requests to visit with Manning. Once again,if everything's fine why is it obviously THAT difficult for him to get the okay to visit Bradley Manning? Only bureaucratic hurdles? Very odd, to say the least.
The way I see it, bottom line, you give your gov/military the benefit of the doubt whereas I don't.
Mark - Cynthia MMarch 17, 2011 at 8:31 PM
Following the exchange between two commenters debating the rationale for Manning's treatment--neither addresses the widely-known, and most critical aspect of the brig commanders' (two, so far) decisions. That is, two commanders now have chosen to disregard the recommendation of the brig psychatrist(a Marine Corps officer) that he be removed from POI status, after every interview.
Neither commander has bothered to document behavior or observations that would justify their decisions--if they chose to represent themselves as better judges of Manning's state of mind than the brig's own Marine Corps psychiatrist.
This leads me, and many others, to the conclusion that his treatment has been established at much higher levels. Now, the debate should be, why?
Also, a DOD Directive states that a prisoner can be held in another service's detention to keep him or her as close as possible to the site of future trial, for the convenience of the prosecution. Manning is a member of the U.S. Army and will be tried as such, presumably in an Army installation. Why, then, is Quantico considered closest to the site of prosecution? Or was this an arbitrary decision to keep him close to DC and/or in a Marine Corps brig rather than U.S. Army? And why? - AnonymousMarch 22, 2011 at 1:05 AM
Mark GER wrote
"Your implication that they have no reason to go after both Manning and Assange is ridiculous!"
Huh? Where did you get that from?
I said they need to be able to connect Manning to WikiLeaks for the charges of "aiding the enemy", for instance.
They don't need to connect Manning directly with Wikileaks at all to sustain that charge! You're wrong as wrong can be.
People are convicted without concrete evidence of their guilt all the time! All that's required is that there not be any reasonable doubt in the jury's mind that the accused person committed the crime. The government will present evidence that will show that someone with Manning's ID, password, and that looked just like him accessed computers and downloaded info, and that it was later seen on WikiLeaks. They'll show that that info was not downloaded and accessed illegally by anyone else, by documenting that they checked everyone that did access that info, and ensured that it wasn't downloaded by others. They'll show that the enemy could have used/still could use the info released, and the jury will almost certainly decide that he did it - that there's no reasonable doubt in their minds that someone else might have done it. That's the way trials work all the time. It's rare that we have definitive proof that someone committed a crime, yet people are convicted all the time. Your assertion that it'd be impossible for a jury to believe that Manning leaked the documents is without foundation. - AnonymousMarch 29, 2011 at 3:21 PM
I'm late. Sorry.
Uh-huh. Thanks for the reminder!Looking at it from an American perspective you're right. Looked at it from a non-American perspective, live in a country where people do not get convicted without concrete evidence all the time (it happens but it's the exception and those cases are HIGHLY controversial). Of course this is not relevant here, just autopilot was on. My bad! BUT, and that is a big but, simply because this happens in your country all the time doesn't make it right!!!
But of course the jury will almost certainly decide that he's guilty of all charges! The groundwork has already been laid by several individuals to ensure that there isn't "any reasonable doubt" anymore in the jury's mind – whoever this might be – and since it's safe to say that the trial will be held in secret because of ... guess what ... "will threaten our national security" ... it's unchecked by the media and nobody will ever know and so "determine his guilt without a reasonable doubt" is a no-brainer. That's what is wanted! I mean how would the gov look like if a jury dared to acquit a guy who already got openly labeled a traitor, a threat to the US's national security and such by several politicians/brass ...
@ his lawyer David Coombs; I can also imagine that being a lawyer in cases like that, actually doing your best to serve your client leads to ... let's say ... tensions between the lawyer and everyone else.
I DO think that this young soldier certainly does NOT deserve the dealth penalty nor does he deserve life in prison, let alone this pre-trial treatment! What he actually deserves is the best defense!!! And I hope you will never leave him in the lurch and continue to fight for him – no matter how difficult or even uncomfortable it might be!
Furthermore I hope you can make the impossible possible!! Well, hope is the last to die! Wish you the strength and persistence etc. needed for cases like that!!!
Mark (GER) - AnonymousApril 23, 2011 at 12:16 PM
Manning is criticized for releasing the information to the public rather than to use the prescribed "Military Whistleblowers Act" which has a chain of command approved: eg. those to be told about the soldier's concerns. The problem with it is that those who are authorized to hear from the soldier about horrendous wrongdoings, will do nothing. They are all part of the cover. So this goes back to the old saying," if a man blows a whistle in a closet of old suits, is there really any sound?" Pvt. Manning made 'hearing-the-whistle' his first concern, and damn the torpedoes. Sweet ! Speak truth to power. Yes we can. This is how we will prevail over TPTB and the NWO corporate elite. And they will snivel. Power to the people. Shine on.
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Panetta removes military ban on women in combat, opening thousands of front line positions.
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the US military is officially over, eventually
the GOPe will never, ever undo this
I'm sure they'll all have to sign up for the draft,too./sarc
Well. I guess our days of "boots on the ground" are pretty much gone. Women in the front lines is stupid — we've decided we aren't going to fight anymore.
Good grief! Another blow in the name of political correctness. Our enemies will be happy to hear this news!
I honestly don't see the Republicans undoing this anytime soon. But hey, I could be wrong. Politics is full of surprises, after all.
Foxholes will look much nicer with better interior decorators.
Women are barred by Congress from participating in frontline combat. What Panetta says meaning nothing without congressional approval. The dykes will not win this one.
What the heck. Now America is going to put more of our young ladies, sisters and mothers into war? I know the Israelis are big on everyone stepping up to protect the country but does the USA really need to do this?
Since most of our operations are Muslim countries, I hope they enjoy kidnap and rape. This is a serious mistake on multiple levels. F Obama and all his administration.
It will never be undone
it's now a "settled" issue as far as the Vichy GOPe is concerned.
Again this corrupt regime bypasses the system to rule by force.
Not really surprised.
Yup. From fudgepackers to dykes.
I have to admit, my first thought was, "Well, the Taliban might have some reluctance to shoot at a woman" but then again, this is the Taliban we're talking about who shoot anyone, male or female, who they're opposed to.
You know....like uppity women who try to learn how to read and that sort of thing.
"I know the Israelis are big on everyone stepping up to protect the country but does the USA really need to do this?"
Israelis tried it. It failed. Like I said above when the bar is lifted by Congress I'll believe it. In the meantime just more BS from another Obama liberal.
This is to save Hillary. It gets her story out of view.
It is very very bad.
Very bad.
Thousands of positions? Wow. These modern girls...I know of about 20, and with my arthritic joints, can only really do about five of them fairly well. . . And only two are doable in a foxhole.
Tarantinoesque, with the right soundtrack.
it's not about winning wars. it's about 'fairness'.
unless they have to sign up for the draft and meet the same physical fitness test standards, it's really all about feminazis wanting their cake and eating it to.
.... This announcement was timed as a diversionary tactic to draw the press away from the news oozing out of the so called Benghazi testimony IMO.
It was over when they allowed gays in. It's no coincidence that the man responsible for the greatest military security breach in US history, Bradley Manning, is gay. Talk to any shrink and they will tell you flat out gay men have a bitchiness to them that straight men do not, which to me makes them absolutely not qualified to serve in the military. And what was the result of that bitchiness? Flat out treason. And how did the Obama cabal respond after the arrest of Manning? By immediately overturning DADT. Just another example that if it hurts the USA, liberals immediately want more of it.
So, might this connect with the story earlier today of the regime's military litmus test of being able to fire at Americans?
Interesting how this is released during the Hillary Clinton hearings. Golly, do you think the administration wants to DISTRACT the public or something???
Perhaps even CHANGE THE SUBJECT???
Kiss my ass. My 18 year old daughter is going into the Marines in August and she is the farthest thing from a dyke. I hate this announcement.
Interesting how this is released during the Hillary Clinton hearings. Golly, do you think the administration wants to DISTRACT the public or something???
Perhaps even CHANGE THE SUBJECT???
Obama's daughters? Why, is there some law that includes Obamas in draft registrations?
Only is something abhorrent happens in a future battle and the American people demanded it. I don't see that happening, but that's the only way we would see this change.
there's a waiver app for that.
think unions/Obamacare
I honestly dont see the Republicans undoing this anytime soon. But hey, I could be wrong. Politics is full of surprises, after all.
You're right. Lots of things about Romney/Ryan disgusted me. But one of the biggest was their promise NOT TO UNDO the fags in the military regulations Nobama unleased on us.
Foxholes will look much nicer with better interior decorators.
I thought the homosexuals had already filled that position!
There go the physical fitness requirements. And since the combat effectiveness of a unit is limited by its weakest members, the patrol range, speed, equipment that can be carried, etc. The combat effectiveness of the entire army is now greatly reduced.
In peace times, sharing a foxhole with a nice petite female would be desirable. But in combat, I want the big, ugly dude that could drag my injured butt out of harms way.
Well, since gays how are 'equal' in the military, and women are too, I want to force the Navy to allow people with bad vision to fly jets and anyone can be a army doctor...no education needed. It is only fair, don't ya know.
Frankly, I don't care anymore. Let them go. Let them get shot at and die like men. That's what they demand, give it to them.
However, I don't want to see anquished reports of women killed or captured in combat (see: Jessica Lynch).
Onward with Obama's transformation of America!
The Israelis experimented with women in combat and decided against it. Women now only serve in secondary roles.
Max was being general about the a$$hole in the White House. Thank you for the great job you did in raising your fine daughter and your daughter who is becoming one of the finest! God Bless you and your daughter!
"It was over when they allowed gays in"
You're right, because a fag is but a man that thinks he's a woman. How many fags wants want any part of combat. How many NORMAL women want any part of combat? I was in combat, and I damn sure never wanted to be there. There is a reason why women are called the weaker sex. Let muslim soldiers show the US why. Hell, they are tired of raping men anyway, might as well have the real thing. Obama, first with the fudgepackers, now with the bull dykes, is absolutely destroying the military.
Sending your 18 year old daughter into the Marines? No disrepect to the memory of what the USMC USED to be, but I would not do that.
May God protect your child from the Obamanization of the military.
I fully expect our military to be used against us, so I see this as good news. Nothing like a bunch of screaming little girls trying to act tough.
Openly homosexual troops and now this. Yep, that's how you maintain the best military in the world.
They'll do a couple of photo ops with their sleeves rolled up blazing away with their ASSAULT RIFLES to help females who are running for office on the DimmocRat ticket.
Yeah, we're done.
Are we expecting to need a new batch of cannon fodder?
sigh,, how long before unisex boot camp? sign me up.
I'd still squeeze into a khaki outfit, XL uhh OK XXL
I can hear our enemies giggling now..
Please remember the thousands of women in our military that DID NOT request or demand this when we talk about them decorating fox holes and dying like men.
God bless all of them.
Can't you hear Satan laughing?
I kinda like the idea of a Battleaxe Battalion.
There was talk of bringing back the draft.
This was her choice and it was quite a surprise. With her high scores they are guiding her into intelligence so hopefully she won't see combat. Then again she still has to get through boot camp.
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JULIUS JONES, PLAINTIFF,v.A. DAZO, ET AL., DEFENDANT.
The opinion of the court was delivered by: Garland E. Burrell, Jr. United States District Judge
Plaintiff, a state prisoner proceeding pro se, has filed this civil rights action seeking relief under 42 U.S.C. § 1983. The matter was referred to a United States Magistrate Judge pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 636(b)(1)(B) and Local Rule 302.
On June 16, 2010, the magistrate judge filed findings and recommendations herein which were served on plaintiff and which contained notice to plaintiff that any objections to the findings and recommendations were to be filed within fourteen days. Plaintiff has not filed objections to the findings and recommendations.
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1. The findings and recommendations filed June 16, 2010, are adopted in full; and
2. Defendants Holloway, Bradley, Casey, Cardeno, Butler and Kramer are dismissed from this action.
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