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Step inside after checking out the convenient kitchen with a two burner range top, and refrigerator so you can cook and dine easily outside. Once indoors you will see a set of double bed bunks to your left. There is also bike storage beneath where you can easily stow things away while traveling.
The opposite rear corner features a bathroom with a 30" x 36" shower including skylight. There is also a toilet, and vanity with sink.
Straight in the door notice the floor space that you quickly create once the slide is fully extended. The slide includes a tri-fold sofa, as well as a u-shaped dinette with removable ottoman.
To the right of the entry door find shoe storage and a nice kitchen. The wardrobe and pantry just inside the door are great for clothing storage, plus food items also. There is a 32" LED TV on a swing arm in the entertainment center above. Continuing along this right side you will find a three burner range with overhead microwave oven, and a corner counter-top with large single bowl sink along the interior wall. There are even pet dishes underneath the refrigerator that get tucked away when not in use.
The front of this Imagine lightweight trailer features a master bedroom with a sliding door for privacy. Inside enjoy a relaxing space that includes a queen size bed, dual bedside wardrobes, overhead cabinets, and so much more!
Outside in front you will find storage in the drop-frame pass-through compartment, and there is also a universal docking station in front along the road side as well!
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By as early as February, Palo Alto train riders may be able to grab a cup of coffee from Caffé del Doge in the University Avenue Station.
Caffé del Doge's proposal needs to be approved by the City Council in January before it can begin applying for permits to install sinks and other equipment, Fellman said.
A non-profit, the Bike Coalition, also plans to rent about 500 square feet of the depot, Fellman said.
Both organizations hope to be set up before the Feb. 17 Tour of California bike race, Fellman said.
Fellman said he expected more applications.
"I think they realized the janitorial (work) is more than not paying rent," he said.
After six months, the café will begin paying rent based on its sales.
Two coffee carts have failed at the depot, but the number of passengers passing through has increased since then, Fellman said.
The Santa Clara County Valley Transportation Authority (VTA) pays for janitorial service now, but it is only available for transit workers. VTA rents the depot from the City of Palo Alto, which then pays property owner Stanford University.
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By Roger Nusbaum, AdvisorShares ETF Strategist
While it is logical that markets are complex, the reality is that the level of complexity changes over time. The level of complexity started to increase last year when now former Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke first introduced the idea of what has come to be called tapering.
It was at that point that bonds stopped being a one way trade but domestic equities kept on as a one way trade. The start of 2014 has seen complexity and uncertainty increase relative to 2013. Markets appear to be under the impression that the Fed is closer to the end of asset purchases and closer to the end of zero percent interest rates.
If equity prices were indeed propped up by Fed policy as many believe then when that Fed policy ends or markets start to see when it could end then markets will learn the extent prices were propped.
This raises many questions. Domestic equities obviously have made new highs but have done so without hoped for recoveries in jobs, housing and GDP. All three have improved of course but less than was expected and US debt is now $17 trillion, up from $14 trillion at the onset of the financial crisis according to the US treasury.
A popular topic in the financial blogosphere has been whether or not there would ever be a consequence for borrowing so much money to pay for a lackluster recovery. While that remains to be seen, if there will be a consequence then logically the country is now closer to it.
The above may read like it has a bearish bias but that is not the way to take it.
No matter what is going on in markets there is always a bear case and there is always a bull case. This is a crucial point. Everyone knows the cliche of markets climbing a wall of worry, which put another way, is the market overcoming the bear case to higher prices.
The next bear market might be different in terms of what causes it - the consequences of Fed excess perhaps - but the market action will very likely look like every other bear market. It will probably start slowly over several months, catch people off guard because of the extent to which it starts slowly, it will finish with some sort of fast spike down and it will scare away investors who were emotionally unprepared.
Bear markets and other emotionally challenging declines are a normal part of the cycle. In terms of different ingredients resulting in a repeat of past market declines where this was true for the worst financial crisis in 80 years as President Obama referred to it, it will be true in future bear markets too.
The message of repeated behavior caused by different ingredients can help some if not all clients navigate through the next scary market event.
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Client: HP
Amazing compositing work. I have to wonder if the guy is walking around in his underwear and the clothes are 3D elements. His body is too perfectly aligned for this to be multiple-pass motion control shows. Just brilliant!!
agreed, it really is jawdropping as one tries to figure out how on earth that was done.
I love the music. Who dun' it?
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"My husband and I frequent a great little fusion restaurant in town. They serve bread with a lentil spread instead of butter. This is my version. It's best with crusty Italian bread." -Rebekka Clavin, Libertyville, IL
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1 tablespoon olive oil
2 tablespoons finely chopped shallots
1 tablespoon minced garlic
1/2 cup chopped peeled tomato
2 tablespoons thinly sliced green onions
1 1/2 tablespoons chopped fresh basil
1 teaspoon salt
Combine water and dried lentils in a medium saucepan, and bring to a boil. Cover, reduce heat, and simmer 40 minutes or until tender.
Heat olive oil in a small skillet over medium heat. Add shallots and garlic; cook 2 minutes or until shallots are tender, stirring occasionally. Place lentils in a large bowl; mash to desired consistency. Add the shallot mixture, tomato, onions, basil, and salt; stir to combine. Cool to room temperature.
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Calories 60
Caloriesfromfat 21 %
Fat 1.4 g
Satfat 0.2 g
Monofat 0.9 g
Polyfat 0.2 g
Protein 3.9 g
Carbohydrate 8.5 g
Fiber 4.2 g
Cholesterol 0.0 mg
Iron 1.3 mg
Sodium 213 mg
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Depression and The Pony Tail Holder, Part 2
Yesterday, I wrote about my anxiety over the possibility that my hair was disappearing. Read on to find out the rest of the story. After considering the slight possibility that my hair was disappearing, my quest began in earnest. Dermatologist, OB/GYN, vitamins, volume producing hair products, colored sprinkles, men's 5% minoxidil (screw the warnings -- growing another ovary is worth it to me) and sprays -- and in return I received an irritated scalp and some sympathy. Lots and lots of sympathy.
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I will be 45 for another 2 months, 11 days and 21 minutes. I do not want to be 46.
46 is starting to feel a little like heaven's waiting room.
It seems that as I age, my bipolar is beginning to play tricks on me with more ups and downs closer together and well, more bouts, period. As if that's not enough, it appears that I am heading (no pun intended) for a one on one...
K9 Comfort – My #1 Tool for Depression
Between sobs, I heard him say in a slow, sad voice, the kind that can come only from a father who feels his daughter's grief, "You know what you need, Les? You need a dog." Just 2 weeks shy of Thanksgiving, one of the few that my parents were flying in to share, my boyfriend and I abruptly ended our long relationship. It had died a long, slow death, so though it was a healthy change, you would have never been able to tell by one look at my swollen eyes and ratty sweats. I have always subscribed to the theory that my bipolar magnifies a situational depression 1,000 times. The K-9 thought registered somewhere in between the aroma of overly cooked turkey and my complete inability to stomach it. Glasses clinking, heart breaking. That night, as I lay in bed, I pondered – what would it be like to have a puppy snuggled up against me? And then, I wondered how soon I could make it happen. It would surely be as effective if not more, than therapy and tranquilizers – both of which I had plenty of. My Break-Up-Dog found me just a few short days later.
Repacking My Bags – How Depression Complicates a Move
There were boxes absolutely everywhere and mounds of clothes took up each square foot on my carpet. Wrestling with a trick roll of packing tape, I slid down the wall and crumpled into my own little pile on the floor. I was moving again and not, I might add, with a lot of grace. I was coming apart. An hour later I was still lying on my side on my bedroom floor wondering if they had 12step groups for bubble wrap popping. I'm not on the lamb, I'm not Top Gun, and I'm not even in the witness protection program. The best I can figure is that it's God's hand gently pushing me along for His reasons. Despite my feisty debates, he just keeps on nudging (sometimes, I feel like He's shoving) me along. Anyone who says "I like change -- Change is good" is lying. Sorry, they're lying. Change is good in one place, and that place is in hindsight.
A Case For Staying In
A couple of weeks ago, I begrudgingly attended a singles event at a local museum. Depression can often keep me safely tucked away in my apartment, but in the spirit of not wanting to further cultivate my reputation of being a stick in the mud, I went. Besides, visions of fancy steak on a stick h'or dourves and a complimentary coat check danced in my head. Let me give you some history here. I am 45, I've moved 4 times in the past 3 years and as a connoisseur of really long, dead horse relationships, I've been out of the dating scene for quite a while. Now that you have a little picture of my wild social life, let's get back to our story. The night began innocently enough: servers in crisp black and white, an array of refreshments and jazz resonating from the back of the museum. Mingle. Mingle. Mingle. After relishing in my new found urbane coolness for awhile, my girlfriend and I went off to explore. A short time later, after becoming intimately familiar with Egyptian tombs, we headed back to the party. Apparently, while I was out getting cultured, the crowd multiplied and grew rabid.
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Paris Hilton winner of Concord's Diva promotion :
Concord Camera Corp., a leader in award-winning, high-quality, affordably-priced image capture solutions, today declared Paris Hilton as the "Ultimate Hollywood Diva" based on entries received by contestants from around the world who entered to win Concord's "Wanna be a Hollywood Diva" promotion for the DVx digital video camera. The contest, which concluded March 27th, was an open call to all diva wanna-be's to vote on who they believe is the ultimate Hollywood diva, and a chance to win a trip to Hollywood, California and a one-of-a-kind, Swarovski bejeweled Diva Edition DVx digital video camera.
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12 servings (serving size: 1/2 cup cobbler and 1 biscuit)
Nutritional Information
Calories 283
Caloriesfromfat 20 %
Fat 6.3 g
Satfat 3.8 g
Monofat 1.8 g
Polyfat 0.3 g
Protein 4.3 g
Carbohydrate 56.5 g
Fiber 4.7 g
Cholesterol 17 mg
Iron 1.5 mg
Sodium 267 mg
Calcium 63 mg
2 1/4 cups all-purpose flour, divided
8 cups chopped peeled peaches (about 4 pounds)
1/4 cup honey
3 tablespoons fresh lemon juice
3/4 teaspoon salt, divided
3 cups blackberries
Cooking spray
3/4 cup granulated sugar
1 tablespoon grated lemon rind
1 teaspoon baking powder
6 tablespoons chilled butter, cut into small pieces
1 1/4 cups low-fat buttermilk
2 tablespoons turbinado sugar
Preheat oven to 400°.
Lightly spoon flour into dry measuring cups; level with a knife.
Combine 1/4 cup flour, peaches, honey, juice, and 1/4 teaspoon salt in a large bowl; toss gently. Let stand 15 minutes. Fold in blackberries. Spoon mixture into a 13 x 9-inch baking dish coated with cooking spray.
Combine 2 cups flour, 1/2 teaspoon salt, granulated sugar, rind, and baking powder in a medium bowl, stirring with a whisk. Cut in butter with a pastry blender or 2 knives until mixture resembles coarse meal. Add buttermilk, and stir just until moist.
Drop dough onto peach mixture to form 12 mounds. Sprinkle mounds with turbinado sugar. Bake at 400° for 40 minutes or until bubbly and golden.
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I had the O2 X1 and well least said about that the better and having read reviews on this handy site I discovered there was a solution and that was the O2 X2. It's a good phone but yet still lacks any amazing features apart from the face morph which has givern my freinds and I hours of fun. It is a good phone for someone who just wants it to make calls, send sms, take photos. Although the camera isn't great it is reasonable and the screen quality is good. The only BUT is the lack of conectivity ie bluetooth or infrared which is a big loss overall though a good phone.
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Earnings by educational attainment and sex, 1979 and 2002
October 23, 2003
Women with less than a high school diploma earned $323 per week in 2002, compared with $809 for those with a college degree.
Among men, high school dropouts had earnings of $421 a week, compared with $1,089 for college graduates.
At all levels of education, women have fared better than men with respect to earnings growth over the 1979 to 2002 period.
Although both women and men with less than a high school diploma have experienced a decline in inflation-adjusted earnings since 1979, women's earnings have fallen significantly less—from $348 to $323 (down 7.2 percent), compared with a 27.2 percent drop from $578 to $421 for men.
Earnings for women with college degrees have increased by one-third from $605 to $809 since 1979 on an inflation-adjusted basis, while those of male college graduates have risen by only one-fifth from $908 to $1,089.
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Mount Tremper Trail is a 5.7 mile out and back trail located near Phoenicia, New York that features a river and is only recommended for very experienced adventurers. The trail is primarily used for hiking, fishing, snowshoeing, and backpacking and is accessible from March until November.
Hiked it with my two sons. Tough with loose stones covered in leaves but we had a great time.
Not the most exciting trail. The footing is a little tough. Nice views from the tower.
One of the harder fire towers trails in the catskills and Adirondacks. Beautiful view from the tower.
Hike was not very challenging but just required stamina as it was loose shale all the way to the top. Fire tower provided a very nice view of the Catskills
Hard at first but not too difficult. Pretty view from the fire tower.
Trail was all loose shale the whole way, the views from the summit are okay at best as the tree line continues to grow higher. We had a great night camping on the mountain though. We also has a bear sighting on our descent from the top, so be mindful of that possibility
Easily accessible with a good parking area. I started at 8:30am and was the only one on the trail aside from the wolf that crossed the path in front of me. Passed 5 groups of hikers on my way down the hill around 10am.
Steep ascent in the beginning with loose shale. Regretted not bringing my boots, I could have used the ankle support. The fire-tower platform was locked, but there was a decent view from the stairs underneath. Great, quiet hike in the woods.
The trail was challenging. There is a steep ascent not far from the parking lot. Ice was minimal. We did not need micro spikes. The trail has a lot of loose shale on it that makes it not all that fun to walk on. You need to keep your eyes on the ground a lot. I was glad I had poles and boots with ankle support. The trail levels out in places, which gives a nice respite from the steep climb. The view from the tower is very nice but there's not much of a view from the summit otherwise. The top of the tower is locked but you can get a good view from the stairs beneath it.
This is a rocky trail in places with a good rock scramble in some areas. The trail is covered so there isn't any good views along the way up to the fire tower. On the way up I noticed that the spring was dry and there were campers in the lean to. The trail gave me a good workout along the way but I enjoyed it. There are no views once you reach the fire tower, unless you climb the fire tower and the view from there was well worth the hike.
Expecting bears and rattlesnakes after reading many people talk about them, me and my friends came extra prepared. However, not even a sight or sound of either (not that I'm complaining)! This was a little more strenuous for my novice hiker friends, but nonetheless, they managed and were very pleased with their reward at the top! So glad the rain moved out quickly and it was all sun for endless miles!
Upwards hike during the whole thing with a very rocky ascend. It can be really slippery during certain parts where there is water running through the trail so be careful. Also there are lots of black bears in the area,we saw two of them on the way there and back (the second one was a bit territorial,prob a little scared). It was all worth it since it is surrounded by beautiful nature and creatures. Besides the bears there were snakes and even a cute porcupine. There are two resting cabins (shelters) along the way if you want to spend the night and there is plenty of clean water running from the nearby stream. The tower isn't much but it's quite pleasant after the upwards vigorous hike.
Perfect weather for this hike, 83 degrees.Took me about an hour and a half to reach the top and get back down. I did however stop to take pictures here and there. Inclines are difficult at times with the scramble but well worth it. Inclines even out at times, giving your legs a slight break until the next hill. Trail is enclosed so you have to go up the fire tower for views. Views are out of this world fantastic!! Views of the Shokan Res, fire tower on Overlook Mtn. In Woodstock, Hunker mountain, as well as Mohonk. The volunteer, Adam was very personable. Great to chat with and was aware of the surroundings and history. He did mention seeing a bear when he was taking care of buisness. I believe he said it was about 40feet away from him. So as with any hike, keep your eyes and ears open! I recommend good hiking boots with ankle support. Also, don't litter. Like the sign says-if you carry it in, you can carry it out.
Wonderful mountain to climb with a surprise at the top....... A fire tower for a better view.
Easy to find and easy trail way to the top. The hike was a little moderate though I went in the winter. Keep going till you hit the tower the views are entirely worth it so beautiful. Took my black lab with me she had a blast. Didn't see any other hikers. Definitely tiring if your not in shape but the reward is a cold spring to drink from and the views. Was pretty pissed the fire tower was locked when I got to the top being the windchill was zero or below at least. Altogether a good time and beautiful view.
Went on a hot & humid day so only made it as far as Baldwin lean too. Strenuous hike but kind of boring. All the streams were dry & it's pretty much a well maintained rocky road up. Other hikes have far more varied ecology zones, terrain & water features as you go. Maybe it's worth it at the top for the tower but we'll go back to more interesting hikes next time.


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A welcome new biography of one of the 20th century's leading lights. Metaxas magnificently captures the life of theologian and anti-Nazi activist Dietrich Bonhoeffer (1906-1945), who "thought it the plain duty of the Christian—and the privilege and honor—to suffer with those who suffered." In the finest treatment of the man since Eberhard Bethge's Dietrich Bonhoeffer: Man of Vision, Man of Courage (1970), Metaxas presents a complete, accessible picture of this important figure, whose story is inspiring, instructive, and international in scope. . . . Metaxas rightly focuses on his subject's life, not his theology, though readers will learn plenty about his theology as well. The author makes liberal use of primary sources, which bring Bonhoeffer and other characters to vivid life. For the most part, Metaxas allows this epic story to play itself out, unhindered by commentary; where he does add his own voice, the conclusions are sage. A definitive Bonhoeffer biography for the 21st century. (Kirkus Reviews)
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Prothero vehemently disagrees with the politically correct notion that all religions are equal. "This is a lovely sentiment, but it is dangerous, disrespectful, and untrue." The idea of religious unity, he maintains, is nothing but wishful thinking. Hence, this book is meant to be—and most definitely is—a bracing dose of realism. Religion is not just a private matter, he continues. Rather, it affects the world from social, economic, political, and military perspectives. Religion has two faces as a force of both good and evil. He discusses what he considers the great religions of the Middle East (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam), India (Hinduism and Buddhism), and East Asia (Confucianism and Daoism)—great in this context being contingent on number of adherents and historical significance. As the eighth religion of the subtitle, Prothero includes—which may surprise some—the Yoruba religion of West Africa and its vast diaspora. There is also a brief chapter on atheism. Provocative, thoughtful, fiercely intelligent and, for both believing and nonbelieving, formal and informal students of religion, a must-read. (Booklist)


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The US Government's Oppression of the Poor, Homeless
Posted: June 17, 2016 at 5:04 am
By Rev. Rebecca
The United States is far from being a "righteous" nation. Many people do not realize how much we as a nation oppress the poor, weak, homeless, and strangers among us. Additionally, most Americans are willfully ignorant to the oppression we cause overseas in poor nations with our consumeristic, capitalistic, and wealthy lifestyles.
Many of our laws are set up to favor the middle and upper classes and oppress the lower and homeless classes in the United States. I believe our nation is very guilty of the Old Testament prophetic charges against nations who oppress the poor and orphaned. Having worked for years with homeless children and youth (most of whom are homeless because they were abandoned or abused severely), I have seen the way our nation's laws oppress them.
For example, it is illegal in many US cities to be homeless. This means, as a homeless person, you can be arrested for any reason anywhere, simply because you have no home address. This gives businesses and anyone the right to call the police and have a homeless person removed or arrested simply for being somewhere they don't want them to be (even because you don't like how they smell!). This includes all public and private places. Most middle and upper class folks have absolutely no sense of their human rights being taken away to such a radical degree…they can't even fathom it.
For people who think that "homeless shelters" are the answer, please understand that most all shelters are only open at night and there are only enough shelters to house a very small percentage of homeless on any given night. This means the majority of homeless have to go "somewhere" to sleep/keep warm but are always in danger of being berated, removed, or arrested simply for being there. I could recount for days the stories of homeless youths who tried to hide in parks or buildings because they were so exhausted and in need of sleep, only to be berated, beaten, or arrested for sleeping in a public/private locations. They are treated as less than human beings simply because they are homeless. There is nowhere for them to go.
Another law which is common in most US cities outlaws sitting or "loitering" on sidewalks in the city. Spokane, WA is a city who enforces this law diligently. Do you know the purpose of the law? It is to primarily to prevent homeless youths from sitting or panhandling on the sidewalks (panhandling is illegal). However, most homeless youths have no other way of getting food and money (and nowhere else to go during the day)…they have to go somewhere and so they go where the people are to seek aid. However, businesses complain that it is bad for business to have homeless around and suburban shoppers complain that they don't like "seeing" homeless youth…so this law is enacted. However, I can assure you that if you are dressed well, this law will never be enforced. Middle and upper class youth wearing the latest from the Gap will never be berated, beaten, or arrested for sitting on the sidewalks. But if you look homeless, you will. I have witnessed police and security kick and beat homeless youths for sitting on the sidewalk on numerous occasions. Having homeless around is "bad" for commercial industries and apparently insults middle and upper class sensibilities. Just because I was with homeless youths, police have threatened to beat me too. This is not uncommon…this happens in some form in every US city and goes totally unnoticed. Sadly, our nation does not look out for the poor and orphaned.
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Marshall J. Brown, reporter and Second Amendment advocate
Posted: November 29, 2014 at 10:50 am
Feb. 28, 1936 Oct. 10, 2014
Marshall J. Brown, a former Buffalo Courier-Express reporter and advocate of the right to bear arms, died Friday at his 63-acre gentlemans farm in Colden after an extended battle with multiple system atrophy, a neurological disease. He was 78.
The native of the Bronx came from a newspaper family, with his father, Max, and two uncles, all editors at United Press International.
Marsh was a feisty, hard-nosed old-time newsman, like one of the characters youd see in an old movie like The Front Page, said Buffalo News reporter Dan Herbeck, who worked with Mr. Brown at Buffalo Police Headquarters in the late 1970s and early 1980s. He carried a gun when he was on the job, sometimes beat the police to crime scenes. On more than one occasion, he conducted his own investigations and helped the police solve crimes.
Herbeck said he will never forget the time he and Mr. Brown in 1982 both police reporters for Buffalos two competing newspapers decided to go out and have lunch together. They were walking toward a small diner when a waitress came running outside, spattered with blood and screaming, Help, he killed Ellie!
Marsh grabbed his gun out of the holster and we went running inside. This poor waitress was on the floor, bleeding to death, Herbeck recalled. A mental patient who had recently been released from a psychiatric center had jumped over the counter, grabbed a knife and began stabbing this poor woman. Then he ran out of the place. Marsh and I ran outside, looking for the guy, but he was long gone. The police came and we told them what happened.
Mr. Browns first newspaper job was at age 17 as a copyboy at the New York Herald Tribune. After earning a journalism degree at New York University, he joined the Lockport Union-Sun & Journal where he worked as a reporter, photographer and darkroom technician.
An avid outdoorsman, he also wrote a column called Bait n Bullets in Lockport.
In 1961 he joined the staff of the Courier-Express and covered a number of sensational cases, including the .22 caliber killer case and many organized crime murders. Mr. Brown won a number of awards from the Associated Press, but was most proud of his James Madison Award from the Second Amendment Foundation.
When the Courier folded in 1982, he went to South Africa for a month where he hunted big game. He also hunted in Mexico, Greece, Denmark and Canada. He held an Open Water Scuba Diver rating and dove in the Caribbean and the Red Sea. He was an ardent sailor and fisherman.,
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Rand Pauls audacious new sham: A phony religious epiphany
Posted: February 21, 2014 at 7:41 pm
Evidently sensing that the Republican Party may be in some kind of crisis, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., argued at a recent fundraiser that the GOP should embrace the tenets of his pet political philosophy, libertarianism. But Paul didnt just suggest a conversion from long-held Republican values to libertarian ones; rather he tried to make the case that libertarian values are already consonant with the moral systems that underpin many foundational Republican positions. One of his main rhetorical goals was, therefore, making Christianity and libertarianism seem compatible, to attract traditionally Christian GOP supporters to libertarian ideas.
Even leaving aside the bizarre gesture of pure convenience to Christianity, which seems to have been brought in here as a post-hoc rhetorical flourish to do little more than sweeten the libertarian pot, Paul didnt make a great case for the actual compatibility of Christianity and libertarianism.
Libertarian and liberty doesnt mean libertine, Paul claimed at the gala for the American Principles Project, referring to the tendency of libertarians to prefer government not intervene in various spheres of life, often including the realms of marriage, contraception and abortion. Paul was unclear as to whether he believes the state should have a role in the regulation of marriage and abortion, saying instead, rather cryptically, that Freedom needs tradition to give it its balance and its stability, its sense of family and community, but tradition needs freedom to invigorate it and give it spirit and excitement.
If what Paul intends to say here is that Christianity and libertarianism are amenable to one another because Christianity provides the moral compass libertarianism doesnt have that is, that one can protect marriage and defend against oft-objected to practices like abortion through the selective reference to Christian values by otherwise libertarian political agents the question is: Why would someone with such a commitment to Christianity ever commit themselves to a political philosophy without a similar commitment?
That libertarianism needs the moral framework of a separate philosophy imported into it to prevent it from becoming, as Paul put it, libertinism only indicates that libertarianism itself does not begin from the moral framework of Christianity. Instead, it requires that Christian ethics be tucked into it after the fact, if theres anywhere for them to fit. GOP Christians tempted by Pauls proselytizing should ask themselves this: If libertarianism arises out of a wholly separate ethical framework than Christianity, what authority underlies that framework, and why should they, Christians, respond to it? Moreover, why make oneself beholden to a philosophy that uses Christianity as a mere instrument to support itself morally, rather than one that responds to Christianity as its ultimate and final ethical authority?
When it came to the difficulties Paul had in making his Christo-libertarian case, this was only the tip of the iceberg. In arguing for his oft-cited policies of prison and sentencing reform, he said, As Christians who believe in forgiveness, noting that overly long sentences and penalties such as felon disenfranchisement violate that principle and harm those who deserve a second chance. Here, Paul seems right on the money: The reality for Christians is that the guiltiest are those most in need of mercy and forgiveness, and our current justice system promotes neither value, resulting in the unnecessary destruction of so many lives and communities.
Yet Pauls reasoning here doesnt stand up to the scrutiny of consistent application, which weakens his claim that libertarianism and Christianity are well-committed philosophies. Hes willing, for example, to have mercy on those guilty of crimes by reducing prison sentences, returning felons the right to vote, and doing away with mandatory minimum sentences. This all fits well with Christs call for service to the least of these outsiders, criminals, the poor, the hungry, the sick. But what does Paul imagine in terms of shaping the state to show mercy to people in those other categories? What provisions should the state make for, say, the sick and the poor?
In these arenas, Pauls interest in mercy and the justice of the Gospel seems to mysteriously dry up.
Consider his policy on the delivery of healthcare, as described to a group of University of Louisville medical students in 2013: I think we as physicians have an obligation. As Christians, we have an obligation I really believe that, and its a deep-held belief But I dont think you have a right to my labor. You dont have a right to anyone elses labor. Pauls gambit here was to define healthcare not as a right but as something altogether different and unenforceable. Of course, no one proposes any healthcare policy that would force doctors to labor, only those that would offer doctors money to work, a system under which they already presumably operate; in universal healthcare plans, the payment would just come from a different source than insurance companies or individuals. But Paul is clear: While physicians might have some kind of vague moral obligation to lend a hand to the poor, the state should not, in his view, legitimize that duty by expanding universal healthcare to all. Why the state should exemplify and extend Christian forgiveness and mercy to the criminal but not the ill is anyones guess.
The same curious hesitance toward outreach applies to Pauls policies on poverty. His solution for aiding the impoverished in America? Economic freedom zones, or areas targeted for tax decreases and other incentives to create jobs and generate wealth. Unfortunately for Paul, this hands-off approach to reducing poverty has been tried, tested and proven to fail, featuring no significant difference in economic growth or job creation inside the enterprise zones from the surrounding area.
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I was going through photo files for something else, ran across some old clips from RP's last run for president and thought this one was worth posting. If I find more gems, I'll put them up too. My apologies for the poor quality, my camera was starting to give up on me already.
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Skip to comments.NYP: WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON FLIGHT 800?-- NATIONAL GEO AND THE LI MYSTERY
Posted on 01/29/2008 12:45:23 PM PST by OESY
...Tonight's "The Final Report: Investigation of TWA Flight 800" on National Geographic Channel presents a brilliant, well-researched look into what the investigators found - and what they didn't find.
The show details the animosity that existed from day one between the NTSB and the FBI.
The NTSB is usually the final word in all air crashes. But because a number of eyewitnesses on the ground saw streaks flying towards the aircraft right before it exploded, and air traffic controllers reporting blips around the aircraft, the FBI came in and took over the investigation, calling it a possible crime.
There were immediately three prevailing theories. One was friendly fire. The US Navy runs weapons training exercises in a 300-mile-wide swath near the flight path.
The second held that it could have been terrorists with ground-to-air missiles.
The third was that there had been a bomb on board.
The producers interview most of the players in the investigation including eyewitnesses; Robert Francis, the former chairman of the NTSB who was not happy to have the FBI crawling over his investigation; James Kallstrom of the FBI, who knew that 747s just don't randomly blow up; Leon Panetta, then-White House Chief of Staff; as well as cops who dove for the wreckage, like Vincente Termine.
After this show, you may trust the government even less than you do now. Or you may think they are as honest as they possibly could be in simply admitting that they just don't know.
Whatever you conclude, you won't conclude that National Geographic didn't do a very thorough job. Great reporting.
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Jack O'Hara, his wife and I believe one of his kids was on that flight. Jack was the executive producer of Monday Night Football and a Marquette University graduate.
I think it was a shoulder fired missile, and it was covered up in the interest of national security.
Dozens of people in the Hamptons saw a brilliant missile rise from the ocean and hit the plane. Many of these folks were told by the FBI that they must of have been mistaken.
People who live in the Hamptons are not used to police bureaucrats telling them what they have or have not seen.
This is another coverup by the Clinton administration. Bill and Hillary did not want a war.
Unless the documentary says a terrorists brought the plane down, a good number of freepers are going claim a coverup.
People here have pretty much made their mind up about what happened. If the facts don't bear this out, they will claim the Clinton administration hid the facts.
I'm not usually one for conspiracy theories, but TWA 800 didn't randomly explode. I'm in the missile theory myself. Still haven't decided if terrorist or accidental friendly fire.
Dozens of people spread over hundreds of square miles, saw a bright light trailing smoke rise from the ocean and hit the plane. Period. Whether it was friendly fire or a terrorist, we don't know.
Presented both sides of the argument evenly, was fun and suspenseful.
His latest book "Wildfire" is awful though.
By the time TWA 800 came up, we knew we had a corrupt president on our hands. We had good reason to believe other investigations had been compromised. Somewhere in all this, you throw in Vince Foster and any credibility the FBI ever had was destroyed in about the span of a decade.
When Clinton called the FBI in on TWA 800, it was like hearing a record needle skip across the LP.
As I watched Kalhstrom obfuscate, watching the head of the NTSP practically burn a hole in him with his looks, I couldn't buy into the official line. And then that cartoon...
When the CIA supplied a plane for testing, my ears perked up. And when I found out the identity of a person standing behind Kahlstrom during just about every interview, it didn't help. He was CIA.
FBI, you may rebuild your credibility one day. Good luck with that. I know I'll never have much confidence in an official FBI statement again.
Was Jamie Gorelic employed by the Clinton Admin. at this time?
"Night Fall" is one of my favorite books....I highly recommend reading it.
It happened on the weekend the Lewinsky story broke, if I remember correctly.
I've seen a number of these shows. Like you said, they don't reveal much. Some do a better job than others touching on the important issues and players.
I may have already seen this one too.
In a court of law, supposedly eye witnesses are not a valid source of fact(s). However, when that many people have such similar accounts of what they saw, and considering that several of the witnesses were current and ex-military with appropriate training, and considering this was smack dab in the middle of Clinton's reign and any explanation of almost anything from people associated with that administration is suspect, I am much more included to believe that the witnesses saw what they saw and that their testimony was disregarded as not fitting what Clinton, Inc. wanted. We, the sheeple, are supposed to just get over it and move on. What a stain on our nation the Clinton Crime family made on our great nation.
They admit they don't know?
Good book. I enjoyed the fiction/non-fiction blend not to mention DeMille's characters.
Well, this doesn't mean jack to me what people claimed they saw. These people were interviewed by the FBI.
The people who claim a cover up, do so because they dislike Clinton. I dislike Clinton too, a lot, but we aren't going to win any election by sounding like a bunch of 9110truthers.
The scientific evidence does not bear out a missile. If it does in the end, I will go along with it. But people who make claims of missile, have not examined the evidence nor are most people are qualified to do so. They cannot site any thing other than kook websites and coast-to-coast am.
Show me the science!
If it were a missile and covered up, it was in the interests of Clinton's poll ratings at the time, not our nation's security.
Maybe I'm dense, but I just don't get why anyone would cover up an attack. What would be the point of that?
If it were an attack wouldn't there be a strong probability that the perps would do it again, seeing how easy it was and successful they were at carrying it out and avoiding capture?
It it had been a deliberate attack and by a foreign power, not some yahoo with a shoulder rpg being an idiot (like the dopes aiming laser lights at commercial airplanes from their yards) what would the Clinton administration, or any administration for that matter, have to gain by hiding it?
They all have loved ones traveling by commercial aircraft.
I just don't get the conspiracy angle.
As for the so called eye-witnesses, I just don't put much stock in them. Ever hear the conflicting eyewitness accounts of a shooting, or accident or other traumatic event? Not that reliable at a close distance, much less miles away.
You memory is wrong. The Lewinskey story broke in January of 1998, flight 800 occured in July of 1996.
I've always thought that if it had been friendly fire, we would have known right away, because Clinton hated the military and would have done anything to make our military look bad.
This, combined with the fact that Saddam (who was a great funder of low-budget terrorist attacks) was building up to some kind of celebration and announced his people should expect a great message at dawn that day (which it would have been in Iraq at the hour that the flight was shot down here) affirming the glories of his Islamic regime...
In addition, there was normally an El-Al flight to Israel that left at that time, but it had been delayed that evening and the TWA flight had taken its place in the line.
I've often wondered if this was one of the reasons that Iraq was one of our first objectives.
OK, time to take off the tinfoil hat...
I keep my 19MAR96 TW0800 ticket stub on my office wall. I had taken that flight numerous times.
The final proof that it was a short circuit in the center fuel tank is that they NTSB grounded all 747's to inspect the wiring...
Uhoh...tinfoil alert.
I don't understand your post. With all due respect, Mr. O'Hara doesn't know for sure where his son is? He (the son) was either on the flight or not, right?
Color me unimpressed. Anything that mentions the Center Fuel Tank, and/or anything associated with it is disinformation.
Clinton was into the "why can't we all just get along" theory, where the US was always wrong and our hated military was not to be relied on, and any threat was just an alarmist illusion. Look at all the foreign terrorist attacks he completely ignored; if we were lucky and one of the planners lived here, there'd be trials in US courts, but there was never any serious retaliation for any of them.
It was very important to him to avoid challenges from other countries and to court our enemies; why do you think we were on the side of the Muslims in the Balkans?
I spent hundreds of hours as a kid at the beach watching aircraft land and takeoff at JFK, and to me this is a personal thing, not a political thing.
About 5 years ago I knew a man who was (still is) employed by Boeing to inspect crashes. I asked him about TWA 800.
He said it was a missile.
"Maybe Im dense, but I just dont get why anyone would cover up an attack. What would be the point of that?"
I'm not sure what the point is, but if you remember the first WTC attack, the administration played it down as much as they could.
For many hours, the "official line" was that there had been a transformer explosion!
In later press conferences the president kept referring the first major attack on the continental United States by foreigners as a "police matter" or words to that effect.
And the perps, or buds of the perps, did attack again.
... regarding my previous post - he was not personally involved in the TWA 800 investigation. He was just speaking from his knowledge of the details and his personal experience with crash investigations.
The explosion occurred almost exactly where Richard Reid was sitting with his shoe bomb. I believe the same thing happened. Interior bomb set off center fuel tank. There has never been a reported spontaneous center fuel tank explosion in history.
You are confusing TWA800 with the crash of the plane in Yugoslavia which Ron Brown was aboard. Just before the Monica story broke it had been revealed that there was a bullet hole in Ron Brown's head. People were asking questions. But a blow job from a fat groupie is much more important than the questionable circumstances of the Ron Brown plane crash, and so we all talked about Monica.
Anyone who watched television during the days after the crash had to notice the FBI's James Kalstrom, who, in the early days, held the theory it was a missile, was visibly uncomfortable when, in the later stages of the investigation, he stated that there was no external force, and the explosion was most likely fumes the center fuel tank.
Someone made Kalstrom toe the line.....I believed then, and still believe, it was Bill Clinton!
(others here on FR have said they saw it to)
Why watch if they don't know what happened and they're trying to discredit the gov't. We all know it was Bush's fault..
"One of the most disturbing facts revealed is the true cause of the crash of TWA Flight 800 in 1996 which killed 230 people. The evidence linking Al Qaeda member Ramzi Yousef (architect of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing) to the crash of Flight 800 appears indisputable. So, to me, the key question here is: why hasn't the American public been told that Al Qaeda blew up a U.S. airliner in 1996, killing 230 people? If we had known that, surely airline security would have been stepped up considerably in 1996 -- not in 2001?
I have stated that members of the Justice Department covered up the evidence linking al Qaeda to the crash of TWA #800 and Dietrich Snell was a party to that cover up.
Go to http://www.peterlance.com and click #FBI #302s. Then click on the one for 3/7/96 and youll find an internal FBI memo showing that Snell and two other senior Department of Justice officials (Valerie Caproni, chief of the criminal division for the EDNY (Eastern District of New York) and Patrick Fitzgerald, head of terrorism and organized crime in the SDNY (Southern District of New York) knew of the intelligence coming from Yousef, in the spring of 1996.
Their source was Gregory Scarpa, Jr. a Mafia informant at the MCC (federal jail) in Lower Manhattan. Yousef passed Scarpa Jr. notes through a hole in the wall between their cells. In addition to intricate bomb schematics identical to the device Yousef used in the PAL #434 wet test, and other details only Yousef could know, the notes offered the high explosive RDX as an alternative to nitro glycerin in the manufacture of one of the bomb triggers.
These #302s repeatedly warn that Yousef was going to get his people to put a bomb on a plane to get a mistrial in the Bojinka case. As it turned out, TWA 800 went down on July 17, 1996, the eve of the most damning evidence versus Yousef being admitted at trial; namely Murads confession to Colonel Mendoza.
Further, in the weeks that followed, the FBI found RDX, PETN and nitroglycerine in the area of the center fuel tank between rows 17-25 in the planes wreckage dredged from Long Island Sound. This was the precise area where Yousef planned to plant devices for Bojinka following his PAL wet test."big>
From: http://www.readersread.com/features/peterlance.htm
I have never heard this. Seems to me, if true, that should have been a salient fact in the investigation!
Do you have a source for this?? Thanks
Somebody must have a tape of that broadcast somewhere.
I wonder if the documentary will mention that the autopsy xrays of the victims were classified! The presence of shrapnel in the bodies would prove or disprove the detonation of a bomb or ground to air missile!!!
You could read more at the web site of the air traffic accident investigator that was more thorough and honest than the NTSB which was browbeat by The Clowntoon FBI!
If it was a terrorist attack why didn't they take claim of it?
I think it was a shoulder fired missile, and it was covered up in the interest of national security..... In the interest of Clinton, I think you mean.
Please! I admit I dislike (detest, really) the Clintons. But I've said that Ronald Reagan would have done the same thing as Clinton did. The country just isn't ready to hear that its Navy shot down a 747 full of people.
You want evidence? Eyewitness reports are evidence. Debris field maps are evidence. Whatever James Sanders presented was evidence. ATC radar is evidence. The activation of the Military Warning Area is evidence. Usw.
But you don't want to see, so nothing happened.
One thing to keep in mind, and I'm not saying it was an attack just pointing out possibilities, is that after Somalia Clinton developed a serious case of bodybagphobia. Notice that while he did many military interventions during his presidency most of them were bombings and other plane/ missile oriented missions, stuff that's low risk for the US military and when something bad does happen it usually leaves no body. There's no way Clinton was going to get into a real war after the Blackhawk Down situation, he was afraid of the bad press that comes with bodybags.
Some years ago I was watching This Week on Sunday morning. George Stephanopolus was on. Don't remember the topic but a discussion of the Situation Room at the WH and it's uses came up. Stephie described some of his meetings in there and said, and this is a quote, "We were in there when TWA800 was shot down." George Will looked like he was going to have a heart attack. They cut to a commercial virtually immediately and went to a different topic upon return. I'll never forget that. I've kind of leaned towards friendly fire since then.
Interesting that the CIA was dogging him. We now know it was Clinton's CIA, and unfortunately, it still is!
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How's she going to manage in the real world where if you don't come in to work regularly because of a hangover, she will get the sack?
No idea Rickster, though if she's going to get a degree in Applied Film Studies or Social Hairdressing or something the problem might be finding work in the first place!
Law LLB (hons) degree.
She failed 2 of her first year exams and only scraped through the resits.
She's doomed and it serves her right for having such a lazy attitude to life. WAHAHAHAHA!
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