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I will say that I don't believe chilling in under 5 minutes is absolutely important other than it saves you time (and maybe waste water).
Thanks for the helpful feedback kpr121. I think I read in some article where DMS increases at a rate of 30% per hour in hot standing wort, so 5 minutes would equate to an increase of 2.5%. Seems pretty low to me but I just have no reference point to know if 2.5% (or even 10%) increase in DMS is something that will be detectable or not (the 'corn-flakes' smell).
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There has been recent info suggesting that hop contact time with hot wort (but less than 170) greatly affects hop flavor and aroma for the good.
In fact I have adjusted my process for hoppy beers to a 20 min steep/whirlpool at around 150 to 165 f. I recirc the wort through my plate chiller at full bore until the entire volume drops to that temp, then start my steep.
I'm sure you could do this with a CFC (just turn down the chill water flow), its just another thing to think about!
The idea of 'warm hopping' is very interesting - if you have a link I'd love to read more. I suppose your modified process implies a 10% increase in DMS levels, so if you are not detecting any problems from that it probably means increases in the low single digits are fine [recognizing that perception of DMS depends on beer style, and is apparently most evident when brewing low-medium gravity all-malt lagers, so between your additional hops and your beer stlye, you may not be able to notice increased DMS anyway...]
I don't plan on doing a lot of lagers (at least for now
) but would like a rig that makes that possible when the time comes.
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I used to have a whole wall of ribbons won the "old-fashioned way." The gadget-geek in me loves the idea of automation, but don't ever think for a second that more technology means better beer. The brewer makes better beer; the technology allows him to apply his experience more efficiently.
All this from a guy who was on sabbatical and only just returning; but beer is 3000 years old give or take and things don't change that much.
Sounds like we have a few things in common LBussy - my sabbatical from brewing has been more than 20 years. There are a few reasons I want to build a new rig and bring a bit of new technology into my process:
1/ going from 5 to 20 gallon batches (brewing with friends) - my old set-up can only do 5 gallons
2/ I'm deep into barbeque now and use a Barbeque Guru (PID) for the overnight brisket smokes, so while maintaining mash temperatures was annoying and stressful when I was a grad student, not it just seems like a waste of time
3/ I never tried step mashing before but want to try my hand at controlling the amount of fermentable and non-fermentable sugars in my wort - to have any hope at learning that and understanding the effect on the resulting brew, it seems like repeatability will be key.
Of course, all of that being said, as I continue down the path of planning this new rig, I keep glancing over at my old gear that I just got out of storage and realize that the horizon to my next brew session is fading into the distance...
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The first thought I have is that this will introduce even more waste to the process. If you are making 1/2 BBL batches of Bud-Miller-Coors clones then maybe not a big deal. If you are making a 5-gallon batch of Barleywine then every cup of wort is expensive. The second thought is that it potentially introduces aeration at a time when you really want to minimize that. If you are going to move hot wort it should be sealed and through a chiller.
Yeah, it will waste some wort in the lines. I think aeration could probably be avoided but the transfer is going to mean more time at high temperature (more DMS) and for that reason, I think I've convinced myself to head in a different direction...
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CFC (or maybe those new-fangled plate chillers) is the way to go if you are building a new system IMHO. It was state of the art 20 years ago in homebrewing and I don't think a better way has been discovered to rapidly chill wort in a sanitary manner.
More evidence that we have much in common, because I have come to this same conclusion :-). I built a CFC for my old rig (probably 25 years ago), and it was a very effective chiller. Getting the siphon started was a PITA and with only 20' of 3/8" copper it is not going to cut it for 10 gallon batches.
So I think I am going to add a pump and go to 1/2" stainless and will also probably recirculate back into the BK to get the entire volume of wort below 140 as quickly as possible before cooling into the fermenter.
Longer means more efficient in terms of heat transfer but longer also means slower in terms of pump thru-put, so I am trying to get an idea of the rate at which a March pump can pump through 25 or 50 feet of 1/2" OD (0.46" ID) stainless tubing to decide what length I should shoot for.
Back to my original request I made for inputs from HERMS brewers, if you or anyone has any idea of the max flow rate that a March pump can pump hot liquor through a 1/2" HERMS coil, I would appreciate that data.
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I will add that hose water in the CFC doesn't work too well most of the year. I use hose water in my CFC to get the wort to about 90. I have a tee on my CFC to also have a small submersible pump in a small kiddie pool of ice water. i freeze 4 milk jugs and use it for my ice. I can chill to lager pitching temps in about 15 minutes. Works great in even the summer when my tap water isn't cold enough to get to ale pitch temps efficiently.
Dog House Brew, here in the Bay Area we have 55 deg tap water in the winter and 65 deg tap water in the summer, so some boosting is probably going to be needed at least in summer. I have my old CFC and should be able to either use that as a prechiller or could directly pump ice water through the hose of the new CFC if I am ever making a summer lager...
I suppose the main thing is to gain some experience (and data) as to how close cold-wort-out-temps can come to cold-tap-water-in-temps. I'm hoping that by going to a 50' length I can get that delta down pretty low without needing to sacrifice the too much in terms of flow rate.
Any inputs on you CFC design (tube diameter, length, pumped or gravity, estimated wort and water flow rates) would be appreciated.
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I have a HERMS with three 15.5-gal keggles and for the first several batches I pumped the hot wort through the coils of the HLT with cold water and 60# pounds of ice in the HLT. This method worked fairly well to cool the wort but I was using a lot of ice. I wasn't making enough ice ahead of time and was paying ~$20+ of ice for each 10-12 gallon batch. I realized I could've already bought a plate chiller. So I got a plate chiller and it has been way easier ever since. No more pumping sanitizing solution through my 5/8" HLT coils and the resulting losses into the fermenter (though I used to pump a sanitizer solution through the coils after the wort to try to get most of the wort out of the coils and into the fermenter; then I'd re-divert the sanitizer to a bucket once I saw the lines run clear).
I got an inexpensive yet very effective 40-plate from dudadiesel dot com and it has been a charm ever since. I don't even bother using a pump, just gravity fed from my single tier into the fermenter in less than 10min for a 12-gallon batch.
Go with a plate chiller. Coupled with a nylon hop strainer, there is very little hop debris. I've considered pumping the cooled wort back into the boil pot and cooling the entire batch to leave the cold break in the boil kettle, but don't see the need. One thing with the plate chiller, I've only used it in the winter here in VA and have been able to use a very low flow rate (I think I only use ~20 or 30 gallons of chill water). I may have to use my old small immersion chiller in the summer as a pre-chiller.
Hope that helps
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This is very helpful, nvrstck, thanks.
I've been rethinking everything since starting this post, including plate chillers. In fact, I just traded email with dudeisal.com this morning. Can you tell me exactly which 40-plate chiller you bought from them? Was it the B-23A 40-plate chiller?
10 minutes sounds pretty darn good. Sounds like 2-3gpm flow rate for the water (20-30 gallons in 10 minutes) and 1.2gpm wort flow rate (12 gallons in 10 minutes).
Could you estimate water in temp, wort out and wort in temps?
I also would appreciate to learn more about nylon hop strainers - is there any reference you can point me to see what this looks like?
Do you sanitize the plate chiller by recirculating through it before running cold tap water through to begin chilling? Do you whirlpool and try to leave the hot break in the BK (or does your hop strainer take care of that as well)??
And finally, can you point me to your source of 5/8" tubing for your HERMS coil? Was it copper or SS?
The only concern I have with plate chillers are that they cannot be broken down and cleaned - what is your cleaning sequence and do you have any concerns? (I guess that is yet one more question for you
thanks again,
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Glad you found it helpful fafrd. You're welcome!
I was wrong about the 40-plate. It is actually a 20-plate: "B3-23A 20 Plate Beer Wort Garden Hose Chiller" Great purchase for $105!
If I used one of my pumps I could cool it down even faster but it goes so fast already I don't need to. 2-3gpm and 1.2gpm sounds about right for the flow rates. Water-in temp was probably ~55F, wort in was ~209.9F, wort-out was ~55F when I had the water flow rate too fast. I was able to adjust the water flow rate to hold the desired wort temp of 65F or 75F, depending on which beer I was brewing. I taped a stick-on thermometer to the end of the silicon tubing coming out of the chiller so I have a better idea of the temperature (it's a little sluggish but it works). I intend to slide a ~6" piece of copper into the end of the tubing and stick the stick-on thermometer to the copper for a quicker output temperature reading into fermenter. I'm glad I did a bit of research and found those chillers since they are supposedly better than the shirron chillers. I couldn't see spending twice that for a blichmann.
Google Nylon Hop Strainer to find the bags like I use. I forget where I got mine but it essentially a $3 nylon paint strainer bag that as a ~6" diamter plastic ring in the top to keep it open instead of a drawstring that most have. I zip-tie it to the top of my boil kettle and then just dump hops in whenever needed without having to try to untie and open a hop bag. I use mostly pellet hops and it has kept my boil kettle 95% free of hops - since almost all of the hops stay in the nylon bag except some fine hop gunk.
I do sanitize the plate chiller. I cut a hole in the side/bottom of a 5-gallon bucket and put a plastic igloo cooler drain fitting in the hole that has a garden hose male thread on the outside. I attached a ~1.5' piece of tubing to it that has a quick disconnect on the end. My plate chiller has ~1' pieces of tubing on both the wort inlet and wort outlet and both have QDs. I hook it to the bucket and let starsan run through it for a min or so just using gravity...again, I used a pump the first time but it is not necessary so it is easier to just skip the pump and gravity drain. That sanitizing bucket has been a big help too since now I use it to wash, sanitize and prime both of my pumps. And for cleaning the plate chiller it is the same thing....though I tend to hook the bucket to a pump and recirc PBW though the pump and plate chiller in both directions. After the PBW, I just take it to the sink and shoot tap water into all 4 chiller holes and rinse thoroughly. My sink has a garden hose attachment that I can use hot/cold water so I flush it with hot water and a pretty good flow rate with lots of turbulence. I'm thinking about mounting my plate chiller to my brew stand but it makes it so easy to flush when it isn't hard-mounted and I can just take it to the sink for final rinsing.
I've never had much luck whirlpooling, even from my extract days of stirring like crazy on the stove. The break material always seems to end up being siphoned into the fermenter. I made my own bazooka tube using two pieces of SS-braided water heater water-line tubing. My "torus bazooka" (see pic) is inside my boil kettle on the drain that goes to my plate chiller. Using the torus bazooka alone without the hop strainer/bag wasn't very effective and a lot of break and hops went into the fermenter, but now when used with the hop strainer, most of the hot break material is left in the boil kettle.
I had the 5/8" copper laying around but I think you can get 50' rolls of it at your local hardware store.
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I do sanitize the plate chiller. I cut a hole in the side/bottom of a 5-gallon bucket and put a plastic igloo cooler drain fitting in the hole that has a garden hose male thread on the outside. I attached a ~1.5' piece of tubing to it that has a quick disconnect on the end. My plate chiller has ~1' pieces of tubing on both the wort inlet and wort outlet and both have QDs. I hook it to the bucket and let starsan run through it for a min or so just using gravity...again, I used a pump the first time but it is not necessary so it is easier to just skip the pump and gravity drain. That sanitizing bucket has been a big help too since now I use it to wash, sanitize and prime both of my pumps. Todd
Thanks again Todd - this is very helpful. So just to be clear, you perform this StarSan flush just before you hook up the chiller to the BK? And after you are done running Star San through it for a minute or so, do you rinse it off with sterilized water before connecting to the BK?
On another subject, do you recirculate your mash? Everything I have managed to read strongly poo-poos the idea of using a plate chiller for recirculating mash, but with a good enough screen/filter to keep grain particles out (or not putting the PC into the loop until after the wort has cleared) I don't understand why that idea would not work. Any thoughts from your experience with the B3-23A?
p.s. I've been trading emails with Brian at DudaDiesal all day and he seems to think that the chiller would work for wort recirculation as long as some measures are taken to avoid getting large particles (>1mmD) in there. That being said, he doesn't specifically know of any customers who are doing mash recirculation through one of his plate chillers... Any thoughts from what you have experienced?
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I sanitize the chiller with starsan during the boil (and that is when I sanitize my fermenter(s) too). No need to rinse, I usually turn it vertical so the starsan can drain out. Starsan won't harm the yeast. Back when I was pumping the hot wort throught the HLT coil, I would pump starsan through the coils to sanitize before letting my hot wort go through to be chilled. One time I forgot to drain the starsan from the coils to a waste container and I pumped almost a gallon of starsan into the fermenter before the cooled wort started coming out. No problems with that batch whatsoever...tasted great and no off-flavors. They say starsan is a yeast nutrient at low concentrations - it didn't hurt my batch at almost 10% of the batch by volume.
I do recirculate continuously during the mash (i.e., fly sparge) but only through the coils in the HLT. I'm not sure why you would use a PC to recirculate mash, unless you are trying to use the Hot Liquor on the water side of the PC to heat the wort on the wort-side of the PC. That doesn't sound like a good idea to me. Recircing through the tubes inside the HLT allows me to control the temperature precisely. I have a bypass valve on the HLT such that when the valve is OPEN, the wort in the mash bypasses the HLT coils. When the valve is SHUT it all goes through the coils and comes out of the HLT coils at the same temperature as the HLT water. I always have this valve throttled to keep the HLT coil output temp right where I need it....usually ~152F +/- 4F. Instead of trying to regulate the temperature of my Hot Liqour, I let it go all the way up to my Mash Out (~170F) and I just throttle the bypass open as the temp increases to keep my output temp where I want it. One thing I am working on adding is a proportional valve in place of the bypass and hooking that up to a RTD reading the outlet temp and PID. That way I'll punch in a temp for the HLT coil output and the PID will throttle the proportional valve to hold the temperature right there. But I digress...I'd only use the plate chiller to cool boiling wort.
I just go to the PS part of your message. So it seems like you are trying to avoid having two sets of coils or a HLT coil and a chiller. that would save some money if you could. I rely heavily on the false bottom in my Mash Tun, but even with that there are still some big particles that come through. The QDs that I have on all my keggles and pumps end always get grain debris trapped in them. I always see it when I am cleaning up. I think if you tried to filter your mash tun more than a false bottom, you'd end up with stuck sparges all the time as your filter/screen got plugged.
Maybe the arrangement pic of my system will help. See attached.
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envy is a common emotion on this board, isn't it
Seriously, that is one cool-looking set-up.
That is helpful information regarding StarSan - I have not used it before so knowing SatrSan residue can be left on equipment and it will be sterile but not interfere with yeast viability or beer flavors open up many new process options...
And your idea of mixing 'at-temperature' (or slightly below temperature) mash liquor with mash-out temperature mash liquor from recirculating in the HLT is a new one and I will need to mull that over. It is an interesting way to maintain temperature control over a range, but I would be concerned that it requires more attention and in addition, a quart or two of mash liquor is going to always be held at mash-out temps (probably not a big concern, but still...). The idea od a adding a proportional valve to automate the process seems very cool - please keep me posted.
I found another brewer who is using a plate chiller for mash recirculation. If you put an 0.5mm filer in-line before the chiller (like this one here:
), it apparently works fine to keep the plate chiller from getting clogged by any random mash debris.
My motivations are to have one serious temperature control + filter solution in my rig if I can get away with it. It would be used for mash recirculation (warming the mash liquor when needed) in a first phase and for wort chilling in a second phase. The HLT becomes a hot liquor reservoir used to heat the plate chiller when needed. One good plate chiller and a good filter probably cost the same or less than one HERMS coil plus another IC, CFC, or plate chiller and another advantage of investing in a good in-line filter is that it can also help with filtering out the hot break and trub and speed up the whirlpool settling / cone formation time.
I've never used a plate chiller before, but it's compactness and the fact that it can be cleaned by baking in an over are other attractive aspects to me - the only drawback I have seen (for both mash recirculation and wort chilling) is the possibility that a plate chiller can get clogged. With a good filter, it seems like this drawback can be avoided (at the cost of more $$$), so that is the direction I am leaning.
Of course, I've never used any of this new technology before, which is why opinions and comments from those like you that actually have experience with this stuff and with these rigs is so helpful for me
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In a previous article, I described two basic problems that negatively affect the valuations of Chinese variable interest entities (CVIEs) through conventional discount cash flow valuation methods. This is important to US investors involved with the China hybrid space because many corporations within this space generate at least a portion of their cash flows and income through CVIEs. In fact, some derive all of their operating cash flows through CVIEs (SINA is an example).
The first problem is caused by moral hazard. The management of the CVIE lacks a profit motive as they manage the operations for the wholly owned foreign entity (WOFE) that is entitled to its residual profits. Because of this the CVIE management team will manage its operations differently than the WOFE would like it to be run, implying lower profits for the WOFE, and consequently lower operating cash flows in the long run. This is something akin to the principal-agent problem shareholders have to be concerned with and economists have studied in the past.
The second problem is due to what I referred to as enforcement uncertainty. This arises for two reasons. The first is due to the increased scope of the legal red tape involved with designing contractual agreements that succeed in any and all jurisdictions involved. More complexity creates greater opportunity for error on behalf of the legal team involved, and I cite the odd case of Gigamedia (NASDAQ:GIGM), wherein the CVIE equity owner succeeded in cutting off the WOFE from its residual profits due to what appears to be minor legal red tape issues mentioned in my previous article, as one example.
The second cause for enforcement uncertainty involves the PRC's inconsistent treatment of CVIEs. After years of not forbidding CVIEs as a means of providing financing for various industries facing PRC restrictions on foreign investment, Buddha Steel (AGVO) has been treated differently and forbidden from continuing the contractual relationship with the CVIE. Obviously, precedent is not sacrosanct in China because China does not subscribe to Common Law. However, reading between the lines of the news pieces coming out of China, individual CVIE relationships may have been largely unknown to PRC regulators.
What I address in this article is the need and the ability of addressing the moral hazard issues that lead to lower valuations of CVIE investments, through a change in how CVIE investments are paid for. I will get to this after a brief review of the recent changes affecting enforcement uncertainty.
There are two pieces of news now that suggest the enforcement uncertainty surrounding CVIEs will be reduced. First, as of September 1, 2011 foreign mergers and acquisitions of Chinese business entities operating within industries China deems sensitive to national security must be reviewed by China's Ministry of Commerce (MOFCOM). Foreign financing restrictions have been in existence for these industries, which had originally given rise to the contractual innovation that created these CVIE structures. Either MOFCOM will approve or reject such investments, removing to some degree the uncertainty of whether these contracts are in accordance with China's foreign investment policies.
Perhaps the legal teams involved with designing these contractual agreements will have an opportunity to make contracts associated with approved investments more robust through interactions with MOFCOM. I see this as a good thing for both the private equity investors involved with the first round of financing and those getting involved once the company is registered on one of the exchanges. Any reduction in the risk premiums via a reduction in enforcement risk is going to make the CVIE cash flows more valuable.
Secondly, Reuters has reported that four legal sources have informed them that China's State Council (CSC) has been asked by the China Securities Regulatory Commission (CSRC) to "take action against the structures known as Variable Interest Entities". Any future promulgations on these specific structures by the CSC is good news for investors. Greater clarity on the enforcement of existing and future CVIEs could very well be realized, either in favor or out of favor for owners of the contractual agreements. Specific regulations concerning CVIEs have been lacking and anything that clarifies the validity of these sets of agreements should reduce at least one and possibly both causes of enforcement uncertainty leading to higher risk premiums associated with CVIE valuations.
There continues to remain, however, the moral hazard problem. Whether it is private equity with the intention of eventually cashing out on a foreign exchange or a WOFE within a China hybrid company already trading on a foreign exchange, investing in a CVIE should include explicit performance incentives. Some form of incentive based off of share price appreciation is an effective tool to align the objectives of the CVIE equity owners with those of shareholders.
Specific types of warrants, options, have been a historically effective means of addressing principal agent problems with managers for most US companies trading on the exchanges. Incentives within that spirit, tied closely with share price appreciation of the China hybrid company, may allow the CVIE equity owners to profit when their efforts are consistent with the desires of shareholders. It is far better for the CVIE equity owners to realize the benefits of selling their residual profits through long term share price appreciation of the WOFE's holding company, than it is for them to seek to maximize their own well being via CVIE management practices that ignore maximizing profits for the China hybrid company through the WOFE.
Decisions are made by individuals so as to maximize their own well being. While character of the management team is important, it is of paramount importance in my opinion to always be mindful of mankind's decision making process being centered around benefitting 'self' and rely on incentives that exploit this quality.
I have not examined all firms that attempt to generate positive cash flows through investments involving CVIEs, but the few I have examined cause me to conclude moral hazard is a problem at the point of investment. These investments are typically viewed as business acquisitions, and nothing could be farther from the truth. There is a controlling interest created by the contractual agreements, rather than ownership entitling the investors enforcement of property rights, and the appearance of assets and liabilities on the balance sheet is post-Enron accounting.
The CVIE assets and liabilities are not properly owned by the China hybrid company. These can only be thought of as transactions involving cash flows of one type for cash flows of another. For example, if an equity owner of an internet services firm in China expects to earn a cash flow return on their assets of 16% per annum in perpetuity, and they are willing to sell these flows of cash at a discount rate of 11%, then this may present an opportunity for US investors owning a China hybrid. Backing out the opportunity cost of capital, let's say 4%, this should yield US investors 7% more than the next best use of capital yields.
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That's all well and good on paper. But, that 16% was the return earned while the equity owners were enjoying the full benefits of the return, the primary motivation for the effort of managing operations. Now that they have sold this return to someone else there is no incentive for the equity owners to strive to continue to earn that same type of return on the assets they originally invested in. The CVIE equity owners are 'cashed out' in a sense, and non-optimal quantity/price combinations, a slowdown in the turnover of receivables, less aggressive negotiating with suppliers, and related parties transactions are all more likely and will all lead to lower cash flow returns.
If the investment cost is not a function of the return on assets, i.e. if the investment cost is not affected by whether the CVIE continues to earn a 16% return on its assets, then this return is vulnerable to decline. This requires some investment costs to be tied to performance over time, such as warrants of some nature that are awarded to the CVIE equity owners whenever certain performance targets are reached that assure the recipient of the residuals that assure the CVIE equity owners also desire optimal decision making within the operations, and they are doing their part to enable this outcome.
Even a decline of ½ percent return annually in the aforementioned example will dramatically alter the market value of the investment unless there exists an incentive to neutralize such behavior. This is illustrated in the tables below.
For simplicity, the moral hazard market losses in the table above represent losses in market valuations of the China hybrid if the CVIE were its only source of cash flows. In this example, a ½ % loss due to sloppy operations and related parties transactions causes the market to deduct nearly 5% off the at risk cash flows from what it would have been valued if the operations were being run optimally. If the losses are expected to be 1%, a nearly 10% loss in market valuation is borne by the shareholders.
For situations involving CVIEs contributing a portion of the cash flows, the market loss due to moral hazard specific to the CVIE in question should be in like portion, obviously. This is an addressable problem, I think. Given these moral hazard losses are reductions in future cash inflows, we can calculate the present value compensation to offset moral hazard losses as part of the CVIE investment based off the discount rate for the cash flows.
This compensation should be awarded as warrants of some nature such that annually, a portion is exercisable that just offsets the estimated moral hazard costs and is tied with the share price of the China hybrid company. For example, if the investors expect that the moral hazard problem represents ½% in cash flow losses as a percent of CVIE assets then $144.995 in cash and $4.55 in expected warrants are given in exchange for the cash flows. These warrants are given in allotments of $0.50 annually and subject to redemption based on the market price of the China hybrid company. This is obviously an oversimplified case, but effective for illustration purposes. And it illustrates there is a potential solution at the point of investment.
Given that many of the CVIEs are owned by executives of the China hybrid companies that are engaged in these contractual agreements, it is reasonable to question whether the incentives in place as shareholders of the China hybrid mitigate moral hazard losses. The answer is yes, but it does not eliminate them. Any gains through related parties transactions, for example, benefitting the CVIE equity owner incurs a cost on these executives that is proportional to their share of ownership in the China hybrid.
Basically, moral hazard gains for CVIE equity owners have their losses diluted as China hybrid equity owners, yielding net gains for them. So the basic problem of moral hazard losses for the China hybrid company remains the same as before regardless of ownership. From the same hypothetical example, the CVIE equity owner gains can be seen in the following table.
Thus, executives within the China hybrid that also own the CVIE equity do not remove the problems of moral hazard for the shareholders at large. A similar compensation structure needs to be created, as described before. Asymmetric information, namely the action of the CVIE equity owner influence being hidden from the China hybrid equity owners at large, still exists independent of who the players are. It is a problem that can only be dealt with through incentives created on behalf of all shareholders.
What also becomes clear through the previous table is why that there is actually an incentive for fraud by executives within China hybrid companies that are also CVIE equity owners if the investment is not structured properly. Embezzling a portion of the returns through related parties transactions nets out positive gains for these individuals. The best negotiation for existing China hybrid shareholders is to make no cash payment up front and finance the entire purchase of new CVIE cash flows through warrants that are exercisable annually, forcing the CVIE equity owners to maximize all their own gains through their contributions within the CVIE, adding to market price appreciation of the China hybrid. This is no more extreme than expecting the China hybrid to use shareholder funds to purchase the cash flows up front without any incentives to deliver satisfactory returns.
Despite the promising news that China may soon provide greater clarity on how they view VIE relationships, leading to less enforcement uncertainty and thus lower risk premiums, these structures continue to be plagued by moral hazard. The moral hazard problem is an addressable problem through incentives that are incorporated into the initial investment in a CVIE, openly acknowledging that this is a continuous problem rooted in imperfect information, at the point of investment.
For cases where the beneficial owners of the China hybrid are the CVIE equity owners, the problem does not go away. The China hybrid's investment is vulnerable to downside risk due to the ongoing asymmetric information and the ability of the CVIE equity owners to gain through related parties transactions and other management practices that lead to lower profits. The loss these executives experience as beneficial owners of the China hybrid are less in magnitude than the gains acquired through the CVIE.
This problem is not complicated and it requires no different treatment, as far as I can tell. Incorporating China hybrid warrants of some nature as a part of the transaction yields the potential for payment flows contingent upon performance that align the CVIE equity owners' interests with those of shareholders. Shareholders need to voice their dissatisfaction with these inferior investments. These investments warrant a change and I hope this starts or adds to any existing discussion on this problem.
As I finished writing this, some more news came across concerning CVIEs through an unconfirmed CSRC research paper here and commentary here.
Disclosure: I have no positions in any stocks mentioned, but may initiate a long position in SINA, GIGM over the next 72 hours.


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Brooklyn Community Board 14 (Registered User)Please file complaints by calling 3-1-1 and providing details regarding trash and rodent conditions. Post the 311 Service Request Numbers on this page. Once the Service Request Numbers have been received, CB14 will follow up with the Departments of Sanitation and Health.
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Please see the attached photo as an update to the condition. The site has continued to be used dump and now as a litter basket by pedestrians. Pile now include exposed rotting food. No change or cleanup of this condition since reported here 1 week ago and now 3 weeks ago to DSNY via 311. Thank you.
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Chronic issue with illegally street parked cars in marked "no parking zones", some possessing handicap or city permits. This is not only disrupting bi-weekly street cleaning, but we are consistently finding these cars blocking access to our two driveways. We require 24 hour access to our driveways as they serve both residents and a busy medical office.
We under stand permits allow for parking during official business but the street and curbs often go without sweeping because cars will remain parked for days and even a week without moving. That does not seem to coincide with permitted use.
Other cars without permits place official orange envelopes under their wipers to make it appear the car has already been cited.
Please help get the area cleared of these vehicles on a regular basis so we may keep the properties clear of debris and maintain access to our driveways.
311 had been notified but the 70th precinct did not fully understand our complaint as a chronic issue. SR # 1-1-969376131
Thank you.
Dumped Furniture & Garbage under Sidewalk Bridge ► Archived2274 Church Avenue Brooklyn/Kings, New YorkA discarded couch and bagged garbage plus litter have accumulated under the sidewalk bridge of defunct PS 90. Condition has been reported to 311. SR # 1-1-952602311
Thank you.
Brooklyn Community Board 14 (Registered User)Please confirm that these items have been removed as per report from the Department of Sanitation. Thank you.
Neighbor JB (Registered User)CB14: Just reviewed the location and the condition still exists and with an additional accumulation from the weekend. DoS report not correct. Thank you.
Brooklyn Community Board 14 (Registered User)Thank you for your post. This location has again been submitted to the Department of Sanitation for removal of these items.
Closed Neighbor JB (Registered User)Sanitation has removed the couch and bagged garbage. Still significant litter. Thank you CB14.
Johns bakery another weekend of overflowing garbage and rats ► Archived39094 Rugby Rd Brooklyn, NY 11226, USAIllegal trash situation. Every saturday and sunday over flowing trash container. Rats seen.· Reported by Gfischer · Share · Flag Flagged
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SeeClickFixer (Guest)Count yourself lucky. The Department of Sanitation's solution on Foster Ave was to totally remove all of the trashcans.
The result: People still dump their trash on the street where the can once stood/should be.
Brooklyn Community Board 14 (Registered User)Please report this issue to 311 and post the Service Request Number here for follow up by Community Board 14. Thank you.
Marlena (Registered User)Foster Ave near where I live is MUCH cleaner now without the cans. I'm grateful for their removal.
Closed Brooklyn Community Board 14 (Registered User)The Department of Sanitation is aware of the issues addressed at this location and will continue to monitor. Please call the Community Board office at 718-859-6357 to report any specific sanitation conditions requiring immediate attention or call 311 to file a sanitation complaint.
Unsanitary Condition: Excessive Dog Waste ► Archived2233 Caton Avenue Brooklyn, NYIn Captain Oakley Jr. Square, across from the address listed in this complaint, neighborhood dog owners allow their animals to defecate in this square without picking up the feces afterwards. This small square is littered with feces everywhere. This issue has been persistant for years until Parks dept. erected a fence around the square in the summer of 2012. The fence was removed in December 2012 without reason. The conditions here are deplorable once again. Thank you.· Reported by Unsanitary Condition: Excessive Dog Waste · Share · Flag Flagged
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Brooklyn Community Board 14 (Registered User)Please file complaints with 311 and provide us with the Service Request Numbers. We can follow up on your behalf with Sanitation Enforcement. Sidewalks are the responsibility of the homeowner (+ 18" into the street) and summonses will be issued for any waste found. Thank you.
Neighbor JB (Guest)Will do.
To clarify the area I am specifying here is a Captain Oakley Jr. Square, a Greenstreets median which is sporadically maintained by the Parks dept.
This is not a residential property designated to be maintained by a homeowner. The address listed is the nearest address as the system required one to post here.
Thank you. I will post service numbers soon.
Brooklyn Community Board 14 (Registered User)Thank you for the clarification. Please post service numbers here or email them to email@example.com. We bring the complaints to the attention of the the Parks Department.
Closed Neighbor JB (Guest)CB14: Parks department is on site erecting semi-permanent fencing around the entire green space. Dog waste should no longer be an issue while the fence remains in place. Thank you CB14 and the Parks Dept. Much appreciated.
Garbage cans and dumping ► Archived776 Westminster Rd Brooklyn, NYThere are four cans on the corners of Coney Island and that are also attracting a lot of household garbage and should be removed like we did on Foster. I did notice workers(not Sanitation) tending to cans on Church ave removing garbage and putting in garbage bags. Any idea who funds this and whether it can be done on Coney Island Ave. Thanks Sue Bolles
Closed Brooklyn Community Board 14 (Registered User)Closed.
Stolen and vandalized cars ► ArchivedE17th Street And Cortelyou Road Brooklyn, NYIn the past two days, two cars between Cortelyou Road and Dorchester Road on E.18th and E.17th had windows smashed with nothing stolen from the cars. In another related or unrelated incident, a car was stolen on E.17th between Cortelyou Road and Dorchester Road. We need more beat cops in this neighborhood walking on the residential streets, as children are starting to feel unsafe looking at broken glass and connecting the dots.
Closed Brooklyn Community Board 14 (Registered User)These issues were forwarded to the NYPD 70th Precinct.


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- 2 cups nonfat sour cream
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- 1⁄3 cup finely diced sweet red pepper
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- 1⁄4 cup shredded carrot
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- Stir well.
- Set in the fridge 2 to 3 hours before serving.
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A delicious dip that introduces lots of crunch and flavor that makes it so easy to enjoy. A word of caution on the resting time. It was terrific right after mixing up, had it a few hours later and it was even better. By the next day, the onion was starting to come on a bit strong and a wee bit bitter, perhaps too much for most but those who just loooooove onions. So make it ahead of time but not too far ahead and don't make much more than what you are planning to use in a day or so. Thanks Carla.
I love onion dip. With this I omited the carrots as I'm not a huge fan of carrots and instead of the sour cream I used reduced cream. Thanks for a great recipe!
Thanks for a really tasty dip recipe! I made this a few days ago to serve with crudites and was not dissappointed. I left out the jalapeno peppers but otherwise followed the recipe exactly. It was most delicious!


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Jaleesa Sams
Camp Director / Assistant Coach
North Carolina A&T head women's basketball coach Tarrell Robinson announced the promotion of director of basketball operations Jalessa Sams to assistant coach on April 12, 2016.
Sams, who was a basketball player for the Aggies (2007-11), served as a graduate assistant for two seasons before becoming director of basketball operations in 2014. She received her graduate degree from North Carolina A&T in December 2015.
During her collegiate career, Sams was a member of arguably one of the best teams in program history. During her tenure, the Aggies won three straight MEAC regular-season titles (2007-10) and were the 2009 conference tournament champions. A&T also made an appearance in the 2009 NCAA tournament and advanced to the third round of the WNIT the following season. Sams, a two-time All-MEAC selection, still remains fifth in rebounds (692) on the A&T all-time career records list and 12th in scoring (1,172).
Sams graduated from A&T in 2011with a bachelor's degree in sports science and will complete her master's degree in education in December.
Franklin Scott
Recruiting Coordinator / Assistant Coach
Franklin Scott enters his fifth year as an assistant women's basketball coach for North Carolina A&T. He brings with him experience in coaching and player development. In addition to his assistant coaching position, head women's basketball coach Tarrell Robinson announced Scott's promotion to recruiting coordinator on April 12, 2016.
"I am grateful for Coach Robinson's confidence in my abilities with this promotion. I am excited for the challenges this new opportunity presents and aim to continue executing the vision set by his leadership. North Carolina A&T is an exceptional place to work and I am blessed to be supported by such a great individual," Scott said.
Scott comes to Greensboro after serving as the top assistant coach and recruiting coordinator at Jefferson College, a two-year community college in Hillsboro, Mo. For two seasons, he helped the Vikings win more than 50 games. Scott served as the offensive coordinator and maintained recruiting responsibilities. He also handled film exchange, scouting and facilitated an athletics department study hall to enhance academic achievement.
On the court, the Vikings were prosperous during his stay there. During the 2011-12 season, the Vikings went 31-5, winning the Midwest Community College Athletic Conference crown and Region XVI championship title. The 2011-12 team was also national ranked as high as No. 9 in the National Junior College Athletic Association National Poll, and Scott signed a Top 10 JUCO recruiting class that season, including several players ranked highly at their position by ESPN and by Dan Olson Collegiate Girls Basketball Report, including the No. 3 overall player. They finished seventh at the NJCAA Division I National Tournament.
In the midst of the program's success, he helped develop three all-region players and four all-conference players, including LaQuinta Jefferson, who was named to the NJCAA All-Tournament team as well as to the Women's Basketball Coaches Association JUCO All-American team in 2012. She was also nominated as a candidate for the WBCA State Farm JUCO Player of the Year. Scott was instrumental in helping send four players to the NCAA Division I level and two players to the NCAA Division II level.
The 2010-11 season was also highly successful, as Scott helped lead the team to the Region XVI championship game and helped develop three all-region and all-conference players. He helped send five players to the NCAA Division I level, and three players to the NCAA Division II level following that season. The Vikings had a 21-11 record in 2010-11, and were ranked as high as No. 4 in the country. During Scott's tenure at Jefferson College he assisted in producing two NJCAA National Players of the Week in LaQuinta Jefferson and Anete Klinstone. For two years, Scott coordinated the Jeffco Jam, a preseason recruiting event for college coaches looking for JUCO talent.
Prior to working at Jefferson College, Scott worked as the assistant coach and recruiting coordinator at Neosho County Community College in Chaunte, Kan. He helped in the development of two All-Kansas Junior Community College Conference Players and an all-region student-athlete. He also coached a WBCA State Farm Honorable Mention All-American in Bjonee Reaves. Reaves was recognized as the NJCAA National Player of the Week after recording a quadruple-double (30 points, 12 rebounds, 13 assists and 10 steals) and a double-double in the same week.
For the 2008-09 season, Scott was working at Arizona Western College as the women's basketball assistant coach and recruiting coordinator. The team was 21-10 and made an appearance in the Region I championship game for the first time in six years. Two players from the team earned NJCAA All-American honors in Yohanna Morton and Katrina Johnson. Scott also coached three All-Arizona Community College Athletic Conference players. Ten players from the Arizona Western College team he coached eventually played at four-year schools.
Scott was a community relations intern for the WNBA Chicago Sky during the 2008 season, and also served as a scout player and camp manager for the University of Tennessee women's basketball program from June 2005 to his graduation from UT in December 2008.
Scott earned a bachelor's degree in political science from the University of Tennessee. Scott, his wife Erica, and their son Jaxon reside in Jamestown, N.C.
Shavon Earp
Associate Head Coach
Shavon Earp enters her fifth season with the North Carolina A&T women's basketball team and her first year as associate head coach. Earp served as an assitant coach for four years before her promotion to associate head coach on April 12, 2016.
"I am extremely grateful and elated about the opportunity to be an associate head coach for one of the best programs on the rise. Coach Robinson has believed in me years before I came to NC A&T and invested a lot of time in mentoring me which has put me in this position. I have become a better coach and person during my time here. I am excited to see what the futures holds for this program. I am going to continue to work hard to ensure that we get the best out of our Lady Aggies on and off the court, as well as reinforce Coach Robinson's philosophy and the vision that he has for this program," Earp said.
Earp is responsible for working with the Aggies wings and guards.In the 2013-14 season, Earp assisted with the development of transfer guard Christina Carter who became the starting point guard after junior guard Adriana Nazario suffered a season-ending injury on Dec. 21. Carter led the MEAC in assists, averaging 5.1 a game. Junior Ariel Bursey and transfer Debbie Smith also accounted for nearly half of the team's 3-pointers as the Aggies shot 30.1 percent from behind the arc which ranked second in the conference.
In her first season, she helped Nazario and Bursey transition from players with limited playing time the previous year to key parts of the Aggies rotation. Nazario started 19 games during the 2012-13 season, as she led the Aggies in assists per game. Bursey led the Aggies in scoring three times during the season and she shot an impressive 48 percent from the field.
Earp joined A&T after spending two seasons as the assistant women's basketball coach at William & Mary. With the Tribe, she was responsible for developing the guard and perimeter players, which resulted in an All-CAA player in Taysha Pye. Earp also assisted with recruiting, scouting, developing game plans, organizing community service activities and administering individual and group workout sessions.
Two years prior to joining William & Mary's staff, Earp spent the two years as the assistant coach of the girls varsity basketball team at Hampton High School in Hampton, Va. She was the primary guard coach, and developed and implemented the strength and conditioning program for the student-athletes. She also helped counsel the student-athletes in academic matters. During that span she also served as the assistant coach for the heralded Boo Williams 16-and-under Elite AAU Team, where Earp assisted in developing players and supervising the team during competition and tournament travel.
As a graduate student at Radford University, Earp served as a graduate assistant for the women's basketball program. She coordinated all aspects of film exchange for scouting reports, produced a monthly newsletter updating alumni on the status of the program and helped coordinate the team's annual alumni event. The Highlanders had a 20-win season in 2007-08.
Before she entered coaching, Earp was a talented student-athlete. Earp was named the 2001-02 Gatorade Player of the Year in Virginia and was an honorable mention All-American for Hampton High. She was named to the All-State first team twice and led the Crabbers to the 2000-01 state championship.
She attended the University of Pittsburgh and competed in 28 games for the Panthers as a freshman and was named to the Big East All-Academic team. She transferred to Radford and completed her career with 834 points, 267 rebounds and 108 assists in 81 games for the Highlanders.
Earp graduated with a bachelor's degree in communication and a master's degree in corporate and professional communication from Radford. She is also a member of the Women's Basketball Coaches Association and a volunteer with Big Brothers/Big Sisters of Hampton Roads and ARC of Greater Williamsburg.