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Shimano Spirex FG Spinning Reels - $59.99
The Spirex FG features Quick Fire II for easy, one-handed casts and A-RB bearings for smooth-as-silk retrieves.
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The Spirex FG is a great choice for someone who is used to fishing a baitcast reel and wants some of those familiar features transferred over to their spinning reel. A Double-Paddled Handle and a Quick Fire II trigger in perfect reach of your index finger, make one-handed casting a breeze.
A solid reel for light tackle techniques, the Spirex FG is also a beneficiary of much of Shimano's new technology designed to combat inherent issues with the genereal spinning reel design, such as line twist and line friction. The new Propulsion Line Management System and new Varispeed Oscillation ensure even line lay and that line twist and friction are no longer a problem. In addition to these features and many others, the Dyna-Balance system eliminates wobble during the retrieve by counterbalancing the rotor and the Aluminum Spool uses Shimano's new cold forging technology, maintaining the metal's original strength without sacrificing molecular density. The end result is a spinning reel with excellent castability and line manageability along with some familiar baitcast finishes.
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Customer Feedback
Comments: This spinning reel is amazing! It casts really smooth & with the double handles, it feels like a baitcasting reel. The price on this spinning reel is really good, and I recommend this reel.
From: Michael: Lemont, IL 1/18/16
Comments: I love this reel. My only issue with it is no instant anti-reverse. I wish they'd change that. If they did, I'd sell all my Pfluegers and buy more of these.
From: Steven: IN 11/17/14
Comments: I have owned spirex reels since the 90s and I have NEVER had a problem, I fish all the time. I have 4 spirex reels , the first one I bought in the 90s still works as good as the day I bought it. I have also used that same reel in saltwater. This is the only reel you will ever need, its durable and dead reliable.
From: Michael: galt california
Comments: I have owned 5 of these reels some are over 15 years old and used in saltwater...still working. I also own sedona's,spirexs, stradics etc. Same results over the years. Maintenance especially in the saltwater. Great price and very dependable.
From: Pmac: FL
Comments: great reel for the price. I suggest a fisher on a lower budget to buy this reel.verry smooth. Awesome reel.
From: Garrett: richland missouri usa
Comments: My Grandpa gave me his stella last year, and can honestly say i have been finding myself using this real much more than the stella. Love this real i have it in the 2500FG and have caught anything from 6lb bass to 15 pound channel cats.
From: Cole: Nebraska
Comments: Not sure if I am doing something wrong, but can't get any distance on a cast with this reel.
From: Bryan: Doylestown, PA
Comments: I have three of these reels, 2 rear drag / 1 front drag, and for the $$ they are great reels. The drag on the front drag model is smoother, but the I've have no problems from the rear drag models. My reels are ealier generation from 3-4 years ago, but if you keep the reels clean and oiled properly they will not fail you.
From: John: Lexington, KY
Comments: great entry level reel. got it when i was 12 and it has performed 4 years flawlessly. trigger is great and i love the price. only reason i have upgraded to stradic is i love the low weight. if u only have 60$ to spend on a reel id go with this. i have it paired with a shimano voltaeus rod tht i wish TWH carried and also cost only 50$ the combo mentioned is a great entry level set up for the angler on a budget
From: Zach: Downingtown, PA
Comments: This is a pretty nice spinning reel. i am strictly a quantum baitcast user, but i love shimano spinning reels. shimano always seems to get by with a few less bearings than most other reels, but they are still silky smooth. these reels are reliable and tough. i like how the spirex has the double paddle handle and quickfire trigger, but with the quickfire, you do lose the instant anti-reverse feature which can be a little aggravating at times. all in all, these are quality reels at an affordable price.
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Skip to comments.Physics: Quantum quest
Posted on 09/16/2013 1:40:34 PM PDT by neverdem
Physicists have spent a century puzzling over the paradoxes of quantum theory. Now a few of them are trying to reinvent it.
If the truth be told, few physicists have ever really felt comfortable with quantum theory. Having lived with it now for more than a century, they have managed to forge a good working relationship; physicists now routinely use the mathematics of quantum behaviour to make stunningly accurate calculations about molecular structure, high-energy particle collisions, semiconductor behaviour, spectral emissions and much more.
But the interactions tend to be strictly formal. As soon as researchers try to get behind the mask and ask what the mathematics mean, they run straight into a seemingly impenetrable wall of paradoxes. Can something really be a particle and a wave at the same time? Is Schrödinger's cat really both alive and dead? Is it true that even the gentlest conceivable measurement can somehow have an effect on particles halfway across the Universe?
Many physicists respond to this inner weirdness by retreating into the 'Copenhagen interpretation' articulated by Niels Bohr, Werner Heisenberg and their colleagues as they were putting quantum theory into its modern form in the 1920s. The interpretation says that the weirdness reflects fundamental limits on what can be known about the world, and just has to be accepted as the way things are or, as famously phrased by physicist David Mermin of Cornell University in Ithaca, New York, shut up and calculate!1
But there have always been some who are not content to shut up who are determined to get behind the mask and fathom quantum theory's meaning. What is it about this world that forces us to navigate it with the help of such an abstract entity? wonders physicist Maximilian Schlosshauer of the University of Portland in Oregon...
(Excerpt) Read more at nature.com ...
Boonga boonga!
'What is it about this world that forces us to navigate it with the help of such an abstract entity? wonders physicist Maximilian Schlosshauer of the University of Portland in Oregon...'
Search me. God made it that way; ask Him.
Where is the old sense of awe. Now that the world is deemed no more than our personal toy box, we yawn.
Most moderns can't handle awe - it scares them.
God might reply, study My Creation,
I have made it Understandable
I have Given you Reason and Logic
One might say that we Honor God by Honoring His Creation
By Studying it and using it Prudently.
We Honor God by being Good Stewards of
the Gifts of Logic and Reason.
Always Honoring the Giver of the Gifts
In all Gratitude and Humility.
And Knowing that ALL is Freely Given Gifts.
The Quantum Mechanics Conundrum is, I Believe, Resolvable.
In this Context
Thank you.
That ranks as one of the most enlightening things I've ever read on FR!
Einstein: "G-d does not play dice."
Bohr: "Albert, quit telling G-d what to do!"
It is quite simple. We may know "this much" but not more. Period.
See my tag line,
When I read this I felt awe.
When I read this I felt awe.
And yet I would imagine our bleeding edge science is the equivalent of Lincoln logs. We don't know what we don't know. Like an eleven year old :)
I've always been uncomfortable with Einstein's words here
With his profound Gifts of Reason, and dare we say, Vision
Einstein was able to look "Differently" at
our understanding of Physics.
But to state these words,
especially from a Jewish perspective,
might be thought of as... blasphemous
Better would be to say,
I cannot comprehend a Physics where G-d Rolls Dice
It would seem to be a breach in Causality and Determinism,
both strong features of our understanding of the Universe
This also implies, in part, a subjective, user-created reality.
I find it only too fitting that the more we get closer to the nature of 'what is real', the more unreal it becomes.
There can not be any paradoxes in nature. What appears to be a paradox is just humans' imperfect understanding of the universe.
—Thank you.
That this Creation is so Consistent and Understandable
is enormously comforting to this poor soul
Logic and Reason are features of Man's Mind
and are profound Gifts, to be used Prudently
It also infers that these are features of the Creator,
and this is even more comforting.
It does NOT infer that
Logic, Reason, Consistency, and Determinism
are Limiting Features of The Creator
Nor does it infer that our Understand of G-d
is limited by the Sciences
(Knowledge Revealed by Reason and Logic)
Rolling dice doesn't diminish casuality. It just asserts that we are unable to predict it exactly, rather that the act of rolling dice creates new information.
When the differential equations are non-linear, chaotic, with sensitive dependence on initial condition, then accurate prediction of the future is not possible except in the most trivial sense (the temperature close to now will be similar to the temperature now).
That is, among other things, why global warming is bunk. No finite set of past temperature data sets is adequate to predict nontrivial future states BECAUSE the Navier Stokes equations are chaotic, non-linear, with sensitive dependence on initial conditions.
Works for me...
PS As an engineer, I do not need to know why it works, only that it does work,
but there is still that pesky itch to peek under the hood...
Mathematics definitely seem a part of God's creation, which is one good reason for believing in Him.
Oooo... digging back into dimly remembered
non-linear differential equation classes in 1975...
Haven't used it much in the last 38 years,
but it was fun then
My favorite equation
how is it possible to have any relationship between the Ratio of the Circumference of a circle and the base of the natural logarithm, and come up with a unitary non zero value. It boggles my brain
Cells Reprogrammed in Living Mice
Biomarker May Predict Prostate Cancers Requiring Treatment
Low Estrogen May Play a Role in 'Male Menopause'
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Bill Clinton says, "What about a pair of doxies?"
The shocking thing about Euler is his papers filled scientific journals for 30 years after his death.
The shocking thing about Euler is his papers filled scientific journals for 30 years after his death.
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My turn: Kindle not as comforting
January 3, 2012
This is my next to the last column before saying goodbye to you, my Portales readers. Before my ode to peanut butter milkshakes and minus one grouch, let's talk about Kindle.
Uncle Manny and Aunt Matilda gave me a Kindle for Christmas. I love my handheld library. However, I miss highlighting things with real highlighters.
My editor in Hobbs said his Kindle saves bookshelf space. But there's something comforting about a backdrop of hard covers.
This got me thinking about the fate of newspapers, you know, that pre-technology "lap-top;" the newspaper fit nicely and still does, across your lap, as you sip coffee.
Like the 1980s song, "Video Killed the Radio Star," some say the Internet will spell the demise of newspapers. But I recently returned to full-time journalism. I'm convinced people still want news in a form that can feel.
They want something to hold on to, read, and maybe even start a fire with later. People also want to feel their news on an emotional level. And so it gets my adrenaline going to soak my pen and sink my heart into a moving human interest story.
I'm proudly old school. My Kindle won't replace my books. The Internet won't replace newspapers and the ink in my blood won't dry.
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News flash from Fox NewsPosted Sunday, April 15, 2012, at 7:12 AM
I keep hearing how Fox News is sooo great. If this is peoples idea of greatness, I just don't understand it.
In a recent interview Fox News host Geraldo Rivera sparked outrage--including from his own son, apparently--by suggesting on Friday that Trayvon Martin, the unarmed Florida teen shot dead last month by a neighborhood watch volunteer, courted violence by wearing a hoodie. That piece of clothing killed Martin, according to Rivera "as surely as George Zimmerman."
"I think the hoodie is as much responsible for Trayvon Martin's death as George Zimmerman was,"Rivera said on Fox and Friends. "You have to recognize that this whole stylizing yourself as a gangsta--you're going to be a gangsta wannabe, well people are going to perceive you as a menace. That's what happens. It is an instant, reflexive action."
After co-host Steve Doocy noted that New Yorkers on Wednesday had held a "Million Hoodie March" in support of Martin, 17, Rivera added: "You cannot rehabilitate the hoodie."
Rivera continued: "There are some things that are almost inevitable. I'm not suggesting that Trayvon Martin had any kind of weapon or anything. He wore an outfit that allowed someone to respond in this irrational, overzealous way. And if he had been dressed more appropriately--I think unless it is raining out or you are at a track meet, leave the hoodie home."
In fact, it was raining out when Martin was killed.
Rivera followed that up by tweeting: "His hoodie killed Trayvon Martin as surely as George Zimmerman."
After a firestorm of online criticism--including the publicizing by Gawker of Fox News hoodies--Rivera doubled down on his argument in a series of tweets.
"Justice will come to Zimmerman the Fla shooter-but I'm trying to save lives like Trayvon's-Parents Alert: hoodies can get your kid killed," he tweeted.
And then: "My own son just wrote to say he's ashamed of my position re hoodies-still I feel parents must do whatever they can to keep their kids safe."
And finally: "Its not blaming the victim Its common sense-look like a gangsta&some armed schmuck will take you at your word."
Not blaming the victim???? Get real!
Lord I love "Fair and Balanced"!
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I believe Roy was referring to Geraldo's remark about the hoodie. I guess I better be careful when wearing my black hoodie after dark...
-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sat, Mar 24, 2012, at 9:15 AM
I think Geraldo's 'pin the tail on the donky' missed. Since when does wearing a hoodie indicate the profile of the person wearing it.
However, based on released facts and statements, I ,myself have encountered persons that seem to match Mr.Zimmerman's profile. The cop wannabe,that can't make the academy just for such attitude, can't even work in private security. Know-it-all where law is concerned.
Mr.Zimmerman had no more authority than any private citizen,and confronting Mr.Martin without having witnessed a crime committed,makes him the aggressor, and violated Mr.Martins constitutional rights.
-- Posted by bug man Dan on Sat, Mar 24, 2012, at 10:49 AM
Blamming the victim here started way before GERALDO.There was a person who was interviewd who stated that if he had just waited and answered zimmerman questions Nothing would have happened.
POINT here will be PURSUIT, which zimmerman did, that should negate the stand your ground.The other issue is the investigations conduct,which from reports leaves a lot to be desired.EVEN IF ZIMMERMAN AND THE KID WERE FIGHTING. ZIMMERMAN PURSUED THE KID NOT THE OPPOSITE WAY AROUND.
SO BEING a FOOL like the majority of people on this one. The kid got MURDERED..... IN MY OPINION.
The bigger issue is the LAW, it fostering murders all over the place were it has been enacted.IDAHO has the law but we have a caveat which places limites, Florida and some others are pretty open ended.There is a case in FLORIDA WHERE THE PERPETRATATER IS BLACK and he shot a WHITE GUY,a young father in front of his 10 yr old daughter.HE SHOULD BE TRIED FOR MURDER ALSO,for the same reason pursuit.Stand your ground should not be a defense if you initiate the contact,from what I can find out that was not the intent of the law.
ZOOK..... unfortunatly you are right the calls for gun control goes up again schrilley and it shouldn't.What should go up is how did he get one based on some things that have come out.This is not a gun control issue it is a stupidly written law issue, written for political gain at the exspense of those who have to live with it or in this case die with it.
MS M....FOR SOME PEOPLE YOU AND I dont need a hoodie were the enemy across the street........SMILE..........LATTER
-- Posted by lamont on Sat, Mar 24, 2012, at 11:11 AM
It is a fairly well known fact that in the larger cities, a person can be shot not only for wearing the wrong thing but also for wearing the "wrong" color (bandana, hat, shirt, jeans, shoes). Gangs wear colors. If you have on the "wrong" color it could get you killed.
People need to be aware of their surroundings. I would never dream of entering a housing project in Chicago (where I am from) wearing a hoodie. People have to have some common sense in situations.
This is an awful event and nobody can deny that. Someone lost a child---brother---cousin---friend, etc. Nothing about this situation is good. Nobody wins. However, the entire story is not known. All of the facts have not been released. This lynch mob mentality some of you are working up to here does not help anyone. You are hanging someone with only part of the story.
And Lemont, before you even say it, I in NO WAY, condone shooting a truly innocent person. I also in NO WAY condone kids/people (in general) that bully people or engage in criminal activity for personal gain or to get what someone else has because they "want it."
The area this shooting took place in is not a nice area. This is not an area that is all "white" where an African American person would be a "target" due to skin color.
If you want to place blame place it on the local government who has cut services in these areas because there is NO money. There is more to this situation than meets the eye.
This is a tragic, tragic event for ALL of the families involved as well as that community. Using a shovel on a blog to stir the doo-doo does not help anyone.
How about Obamas comment..."if I had a son..."
Now that should spark some real outrage. What a dumb comment.
-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sat, Mar 24, 2012, at 11:12 AM
Great point OM. I don't know why the 'colors' thing never crossed my mind until you mentioned it. If you dress a certain way, you are sometimes inviting trouble and I think that's what Geraldo meant.
Try walking down American Legion at night time with a dark hoodie and some baggy pants on and see how quickly the police show up. Regardless of color, they'll stop you just to see what you are up to.
-- Posted by KentuckyTransplant on Sat, Mar 24, 2012, at 12:00 PM
OM.......DID YOU READ WHAT I WROTE??????? I AM STIRRING NOTHING IF ANYTHING I AM PROBALLY BEING MORE REASONABLE THAN MOST.I stated very clearly the problem is the LAW,I have stated that from the beginning.I also cited and example that is the almost the same and it to puts the law in the forfront.I also stated very clearly they both should be tried for murder based on the fact that they both pursued there victims .Now I dont know what you consider stirring but I would think that was pretty fair. Not ONCE HAVE I screamed RACISM I SAID the LAW....It would seem to me your the one stirring a pot not me.YOU just dont like what I said about blaming the victim THAT is OK OM THAT IS WHAT YOU FEEL.......AS. FAR AS THE PRESIDENTS COMMENT.....I AM SURE THE FAMILY INTERPRETED IT TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN YOU DID.... WHAT EVER HE SAYS AS FAR AS I CAN tell YOU WOULD CONSIDER IT DUMB.KINDA LIKE ME STIRRING A POT THAT I AM NOT STIRRING,.....ARE YOU SEEING THINGS??OR are you making assumptions to suit a preconcieved agenda????.............you can attack spelling,caps lock,whatever it will not change what IV said....it will however be what we so called liberals are accused of all the time........go back and read the post over and take your time.
-- Posted by lamont on Sat, Mar 24, 2012, at 12:07 PM
OM, the shooting took place in a high-end gated community. Gated for privacy, not crime prevention. I agree with bug man Dan.
Buckshot, if there was fighting going on before the shot, it very well could be it was Zimmerman confronting an innocent teenager. Zimmerman has had more than one run in with the law. If anybody were to examine the after affects of this extremely stupid law, it appears evident that too many people have used it to simply dispose of others they don't like for one reason or another. Self defense my butt!
-- Posted by royincaldwell on Sat, Mar 24, 2012, at 12:09 PM
Not one member of the far right on these blogs has condemned Fox News for broadcasting this kind of garbage. Why is that??
-- Posted by royincaldwell on Sat, Mar 24, 2012, at 12:12 PM
KT, the police are one thing. A private citizen who appointed himself as judge jury and executioner is another.
Buckshot, your last comment sounds political.
-- Posted by royincaldwell on Sat, Mar 24, 2012, at 12:17 PM
According to the 911 tapes, Zimmerman is a racist fool, fact. An innocent kid got killed, fact. The police did a crappy job, fact. The law is the problem, unknown.
It sounds to me like the police are the common denominators in the shootings that Lamont mentioned. If someone is pursuing, then the law doesn't apply. It's as simple as that and it's up to the police to sort through the mess and figure that out.
-- Posted by KentuckyTransplant on Sat, Mar 24, 2012, at 12:18 PM
Roy, the reason I haven't codemned what Geraldo said is because I think he just mis-worded what he was meaning.
Obviously I can't speak for Geraldo but, what I think he was getting at was certain clothing invites trouble.
Just like in gang infested neighborhoods. You would never condemn someone for pointing out that if you wear the wrong colors, your going to get shot.
In Louisville and other places there are kids getting killed and beat up because of the kind of shoes they were wearing. So we tell them that if you wear those shoes, something bad is going to happen
Sure, I'm sad for this kid in Florida and I'd like to have about 10 minutes alone in a room with this Zimmerman punk but, Geraldo doesn't have anything to do with what happened. Don't get mad at him or Fox News for stating OPINIONS!!! Especially OPINIONS that are TRUE. Not saying this kid was a thug but, if you dress like a thug, then you are inviting trouble.
Scenario....... Northside Estates: It's dark out, a kid in a dark hoodie is out walking around in the rain. I look out why window and see this.... OF COURSE I'm going to call the police to have them check it out. I'M SORRY but, that's the world we live in now!! You can't not trust anyone anymore!!!!
-- Posted by KentuckyTransplant on Sat, Mar 24, 2012, at 12:30 PM
AND yes Buckshot...... this administration is no different than any other there are good parts and bad and I condemn when I need to and praise when I need to SAME AS I DID THE LAST ADMINISTRATION.........I SEE YOU PICK YOUR ENEMY'S WITH PRIDE AND WITH LITTLE KNOWKLEDGE OF THEM. THAT IS USUALLY FROM A MILITARY STAND POINT OF VIEW RATHER STUPID.I AM SURE YOUR ARROGANCE WILL CARRY YOU THROUGH......AND YOU SPEAK OF A LYNCH MOB WHAT ARE YOU????????? I KNOW,...... IT'S YOU THAT MAKES IT DIFFERENT.....JUST REMEMBER WE HAVE A STAND YOUR GROUND LAW HERE .......TRANSLATION......YOU DONT SCARE ME.....YOU JUST SHOWED HOW S D YOU ARE.HAVE A GOOD DAY.
-- Posted by lamont on Sat, Mar 24, 2012, at 12:44 PM
KT.......I THINK YOUR TRYING TO BE REASONABLE,I dont have a problem with that.I grew up knowing about colors etc. BUT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE HOODIE THING.Most kids today like any other fad does the hoodie thing, especially atheletes.Your comment about american legion was something I hadnt noticed but then again I am not out much at night in that area.I probally would not wear a hoodie up unless it was cold or raining in this case we do have rain as a factor.Anyhow I have a feeling for you and I that doesnt count.I AM GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE law AND PURSUIT.....COLOR may have played a part and I am not saying it did but the law breeds contempt for the society it was written to serve.I think that is were you and I are both IN AGREEMENT.I want the law changed it will not bring that KID,OR THAT FATHER back it WILL KEEP OTHERS FROM DIEING.
ON a side note this is also what profiling gets you......should we make and assumption that anyone wearing a hoodie is out for trouble ???? BECAUSE IF WE DO A LOT OF PEOPLE OF ALL PERSUASIONS ARE IN TROUBLE........ INCLUDING THE MAIL MAN/WOMAN.........DONT CARE ABOUT FOX.MSNBC,ETC......TO GET IT SEMI RIGHT YOU HAVE TO WATCH BOTH AND THEN FILL IN THE BLANKS....
ROY....ZOOK CONDEMED the first day he was the only one I think.The way buchkshots comment was written tells you why there was no comment.Wether that kid did anything or not we are waiting for and alibi to RATIONALIZE HAVING killed him, we all know he was up to something right??????? I know I should be nice I HAVE BEEN THERE ARE SOME FOLKS HERE WHO WANT A WAR.......NO they want to kill and incacerate all liberals.......aint that right Buckshot for the good of the NATION.DONT THEY CALL THAT FACISM OR SOMETHING?????????
-- Posted by lamont on Sat, Mar 24, 2012, at 1:38 PM
I missed seeing any thing about Zimmermans past.
What have I missed? Anything?
Buckshot I'm not sure what your getting at about what Obama had to say. He said "If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon" What is wrong with that statement?
I also heard that Trayvon was visiting his Dad,so he really didn't live there or know the area very well. The news said he was at his Dad's to meet his future Step-Mom.
Any one else hear this?
-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sat, Mar 24, 2012, at 1:42 PM
He was visiting his father and soon to be step-mother as well as soon to be step-siblings. Most of Zimmerman's call to 911 and non-emergency involved Blacks in the neighborhood.
-- Posted by royincaldwell on Sat, Mar 24, 2012, at 1:50 PM
Some say it was a hate crime, while others say it was racial. I say it is sad that a young boy can't walk from a store to where he was staying without getting shot and killed by some Bully who wanted to be in law enforcement.
-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sat, Mar 24, 2012, at 1:53 PM
Uh news flash here Roy. Sanford is a crappy area. The fact that it was a gated community means very little. Given that area...I would like it to be gated as well if I HAD to live there. This is not a wealthy area in Florida. Florida itself has very high crime.
You make it seem like this is Bay Hill (a very nice area in Orlando---also gated). This is no Bay Hill. I lived in Winter Park, FL which is a short distance from Sanford (30 min. drive). There is more to the story. Period. The area where this boy was shot has a great mix of people---it is NOT an "all white" area. So to say this was racial is just plain stupid. That area is a melting pot for all people of all skin colors and ethnic backgrounds. Housing in that area can be found for fairly cheap compared to other areas. It is near an airport, a huge mall and the county courthouse is also located there.
Point being---it is not a wealthy area.
Lamont, just about anything you "SCREAM" has to do with the color of skin. You are like the OJ defense team and play the race card. It is people of your mindset that keep this debate going. You are a really hostile individual who thinks he has been done wrong at every turn. You have a chip on your shoulder and YOU sir are far from color blind yourself.
As for what kids wear, the fact is this. Sometimes what you allow your kids to wear or what they choose can cause a problem. That is a fact even if you choose to look the other way. If your kid dresses like a tramp...that is the way they are treated. Right or wrong. If your kid dresses like a gang banger...well, you know where this is going. We do not live in a day and age where people are willing to take the time to ask a lot of questions. Sad but true.
And once again, just to be clear, I do not condone the shooting of anyone who is innocent...unarmed, etc. You do not know the entire story. None of us do.
-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sat, Mar 24, 2012, at 2:53 PM
So...if (just for example sake) this is an area that is 50% black...20% white...10% indian and 20% latino---it would stand to reason that most calls could be for African American individuals due to the population right? It may have NOTHING to do with race at all. Come on people. Really? Again---my percentages were just examples not fact based on stats/data from Sanford, FL. I wish some of you had the same passion for the poor soldier that killed 16 people and never should have been returned to combat. What a world we live in.
-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sat, Mar 24, 2012, at 3:00 PM
Here is a link to stats on Sanford, FL. The population is fairly (not exact mind you) to 50/50 as fas as black and white.
At least know the facts folks. This is not a wealthy, all white area. Look at education levels and income. Not rocket science Roy. Heard of Google? You are really something on that high horse of yours.
-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sat, Mar 24, 2012, at 3:07 PM
Crime rate in Sanford FL
-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sat, Mar 24, 2012, at 3:15 PM
OM I didn't make this a racial issue did I?? THAT MAY BE WHAT YOU WANT ME TO DO BUT IT'S NOT WHAT I DID .I SAID THE LAW AND THE PURSUIT WERE THE ISSUE .RACE MAY HAVE PLAYED A PART BUT IT IS NOT THE ISSUE.I stick to that you can attack all you want, have at it.I am going to bet they cant justify the pursuit and that will take care of that.So scream on OM.YOU have a hard time with a black who wont bow and scrape to you dont you.??
Tough...I dont walk with a hip hop,I dont dress like a pimp,and I dont lower my eyes to white people,I dont consider you superior in any way, your just another human being who happens to be white.As far as a chip goes, any black man who doesnt do what I just layed out probally has a chip as far as your concerned SO YOUR COMMENT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE TO ME....A BLACK WHO IS PROUD.....IS ARROGANT A WHITE WHO IS PROUD IS FORCEFULL.......GO FIGURE......HEARD THAT GARBAGE ALL MY LIFE...I AM TALKING ABOUT THE BLOGS and your busy attacking me personally for whatever reason.Hope it makes you feel good,I guess it's easier than deal with the issue realitically.
Make all the exscuses you want the kid WAS PURSUED......THAT IS NOT STAND YOUR GROUND.....AND YOU CANT CHANGE THAT
LAST......I stated very very clearly that that soldier should not have been there period or did you not see that because I wrote it?????? They should have all been home at least 5yrs ago better yet they should have never been there and I WILL STICK WITH THAT ALSO. WE sent him so WE are responsible for what happened .WAR to make money....what does that say?????? CARE to comment on that ???????
-- Posted by lamont on Sat, Mar 24, 2012, at 5:26 PM
No one who watches Fox News is a Fan of Geraldo. Many of us think that he is a joke. But he is not the only person who puts their foot in their mouth daily.
There are many stores here in Missouri, Especially the urban areas, who have banned Hoodies. You can't wear sunglasses into gas stations in some areas either.
I can even tell you that I don't like Bill O'Reilly. Because I think that he is rude. And what he did to Elizabeth Smarts's Family was over the line too.
We all wish some people would go away and spout their nonsense elsewhere.
No One has gotten the entire story yet. Someone lost their life. That is what is important. Politics aside and stupidity too.
-- Posted by KH Gal on Sat, Mar 24, 2012, at 7:42 PM
I don't know why you guys are getting upset with the Black Panthers for putting a bounty out on this guy. They're friends of Holder's, it OK. Nothing to see here, move along :)
These so called 'activist' are actually hurting the country more than helping. They are causing a great divide and everyone is scared to say something out of fear of being called a racist.
If Mr. Sharpton and the Pink Panthers would just stay at home, this mess would work itself out. It's great that the community is upset, it may finally get some justice accomplished but, Rapmaster Sharpton and the Panthers are just down there to stir the pot.
-- Posted by KentuckyTransplant on Sat, Mar 24, 2012, at 7:47 PM
Let me be clear to you, once again, about a few things. First, please do not put words in my mouth. I am able to say just what I mean and I certainly do not need your help to explain my thoughts. Word on the street is that I am pretty clear with what I think and say. I leave nothing to the imagination---which means I do NOT need you to explain how I feel or who you think I am.
Second, I have NEVER asked you to bow to me nor do I feel that I am better than you or "superior." I would never expect another human being to bow to me---ever! I do not think you are less than because of the color of your skin. I do however find it very offensive that you nearly always make things about race. You are always yelling (i.e Caps lock). Just because you type in CAPS does not make your message more powerful. As a matter of fact---it seems to be you with the superiority complex. If that makes me a racist in your eyes then so be it. I have been called worse (no shock there). You will never see the other side of a coin. Ever.
Third, and your words:
"Tough...I dont walk with a hip hop,I dont dress like a pimp,and I dont lower my eyes to white people,I dont consider you superior in any way, your just another human being who happens to be white.As far as a chip goes, any black man who doesnt do what I just layed out probally has a chip as far as your concerned..."
Interesting words you used above. It is you Lamont who has a very serious problem. The only difference between you and I is that I express the way that I feel and I do not hide behind all of the warm-fuzzy-fluff that you do. I am Jewish Lamont. My people are some of the most disliked because of stereotypes. You do not need to explain to me how it is to be "second class." Unlike you, I have chosen to rise above all of that. It is a choice Lamont. Your life is what you make of it. Yet another choice.
People may not like me. People think I am harsh and mean and nasty at times. One thing is for sure---I am true to myself. I do not pretend. I do not hide behind sugar and spice. Say what you mean and mean what you say. What you see is what you get. The "Jews went meekly." That said it all Lamont no matter how you try to play it or gloss your (yes Lamont, your statement) statement over. It was loud and clear to me.
To close. I do not go out of my way to "go after" you but I refuse to let your line of bull go without calling you on it. Some of what you say is very offensive to me as a human being---nothing to do with the fact that I am white. It scares me that you walk around town with so much venom and dislike.
I am going with Buckshot on this one and I will choose not to engage you or have exchanges with you. You will never entertain another opinion and you are always right. Attempting to reason with you is a very bad use of time. Life is too short.
Unleash the Caps Lock. I am going to have to choose the "high road" on this and just not engage. You are exhausting.
Bottom line in all of this is that a child is dead. Black, white, hispanic, inndian, chinese, etc. it is a terrible loss. Nobody wins. It is a very sad story.
-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sat, Mar 24, 2012, at 9:30 PM
I am sorry Roy. Your blog. This exchange is over. I am sorry it took your thoughts off path. Can you feel the passion in these keys? Have a nice weekend.
-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sat, Mar 24, 2012, at 9:33 PM
I did this blog for a few reasons. The number one was to condemn Geraldo Rivera and elicit reactions to his statements. The second was to condemn ANY network for broadcasting this kind of baloney.
I believe I accomplished at least part of my goal.
I was also very interested to see how long it would take to run the train off the tracks, and who would start it. It didn't take long.
I have tried MY best not to run other folks blogs off the tracks and have apologized for doing so. This blog was not done as a political blog, rather it was supposed to be an attempt for all of us to look around us and see if the same thing was possible here, and what if anything any of us could do to prevent it.
As of today here is what we know. A teenager is dead, the shooter is in hiding, and a fringe group has done a disservice to his memory by their actions. I condemn them completely, as should any sane person.
We all may have different ideas as to the direction of the Republic should take, but I do believe that at the end of day, we all do love the Republic.
-- Posted by royincaldwell on Sun, Mar 25, 2012, at 9:48 AM
THANKS ROY........It took a month to get attention to the fact that justice was not being done here.Then the circus started .If the police had done there job in the beginning we would not be were we are.
I am going to try this again THE LAW IS THE PROBLEM...I HAVE GIVEN ANOTHER INCIDENT THAT SHOWS THIS IS NOT RACIAL AT IT'S CORE IT IS THE LAW.The person who wrote the law has stated it was not the intent and it needs to be revisited.
The cases I cited both have something in common they both involve PURSUIT or CONFRONTING neither of which makes you immune under STAND YOUR GROUND.IDAHO law DOES NOT HAVE THAT LOOPHOLE.AND that is a good thing.
The fringe groups that have involved themselfes should go away but they wont.There is nothing here for them except publicity,and like any other GROUP it will become a recruitment tool.ALL OF WHICH I MENTION THE FAMILY CAN DO WITHOUT.Condemnation of there actions here cannot be overstated as far as I am concerned.THEY NEED TO GO.
I THINK IT should be considered that this family had been trying to get this case looked into and was stone walled until they made it public.They should not have had to do that,the WIDOW in the other case I mentioned didnt get noticed either until this went public.And is still not getting the attention it deserves,and I think that is because the perpetrator is Black. People are getting killed and people are walking away like nothing happened and the police are NOT INVESTIGATING THE CERCUMSTANCES..They need to do there jobs and we wouldnt be here.We need to remember that there are more states with this kinda law involved than florida.
GERALDO's brain is somewhere else on this one.Are we going to sterotype the postman who wears a hoodie,or the jogger ? THEY ARE COMMON ATTIRE ACROSS THE BOARD ANYMORE.....I really dont care for them but this is not mine nor geraldo's generation.I played a gig in boise last nite and 1/3 of the people in the place who were under 30 had hoodies on GO FIGURE !!!!!!!!!!!! LATTER
-- Posted by lamont on Sun, Mar 25, 2012, at 12:20 PM
Lamont, note to you - I'm with Missy on her post. I already skip most of your posts because, for one thing, the caps lock annoys me, and, secondly, your posts are all the same ol' crap: playing the race card, you're the victim, blah, blah, blah. None of us were around when blacks were brought to this country as slaves. Stop blaming us. I know you've said you don't care if people read your posts or not but I figure you wouldn't be posting on blogs if you didn't want your opinion heard. Just some advice or your going to keep losing people who will be willing to take the time to read your posts. And that would be a shame because you have made some really good comments in the past.
-- Posted by Second Wind on Sun, Mar 25, 2012, at 1:20 PM
Cap locks don't bother me, helps me see the letters better.
-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, Mar 25, 2012, at 1:44 PM
I dont want to open this can of worms.....I did not make a racial issue out of this travesty.I dont care if you skip my post, maybe you should read them and dont assume what I will say.
I dont talk about slavery I talk about what is happening today,like what just happened in mississippi....You killed him because he was black and you wanted to have fun....hello.....That is not yesterday, although we may have thought those days were over obviously there not.I guess if we ignore as some think It will go away.THIS CRAP IS NOT HAPPENING TO YOU IT IS HAPPENING TO ME.AND IT'S NOT GOING AWAY.Now if OM never tells anyone shes jewish they dont know.......what should I do BLEACH MYSELF????? You want a perfect scenario then dont tolerate the discrimination you see go on around you,that creates the solution.
Lets get something straight I have a great life it is filled with GODS RAINBOW COALITION OF PEOPLE I HAVE more than most and less than some and nobody has ever given me anything I worked darn hard for it all. The hurdles I had to overcome never stoped me and never will.That doesnt mean that all is well and the discrimnation has stopped it hasnt and I will not tolerate it any less. That IS today's world.I dont blame you for anything,I blame those who think all is well,or it's better than it was and ignore the facts of TODAY because it makes them feel OK.I DONT TOLERATE DISCRIMINATION AND I DONT CARE WHO THE PERPETRATOR IS AND THAT IS HOW I LIVE MY LIFE.
I made a stament and and apology that I thought was accepted I guess it wasnt.I should have known better.OM can read in anything she wants I cant hide she can. I DONT ASK FOR WHAT HAPPENS AND NEITHER DID THIS CHILD.
PAUL J SAID ON HIS SHOW FRIDAY HE DID NOT HAVE A BLACK FRIEND WHO HAD NOT HAD AND INCIDENT WITH THE POLICE. HE ALSO NOTED THAT BLACK MALES DONT HAVE A GOOD FEELING ABOUT THE POLICE.HE SAID" when I see a cop I get a safe feeling my friends said they get exactly the opposite".....FOOD FOR THOUGHT DONT YOU THINK........LATTER
-- Posted by lamont on Sun, Mar 25, 2012, at 2:53 PM
Again, I will say that most stores in urban areas, post signs saying "No Hoodies". They are not being discriminatory, they are basing safety on experience.
Someone's Child has lost their life in a horrible way. It should not be a race issue nor a political one.
It is a travesty of justice and a tragedy for all those concerned.
Everywhere you go, you will face some type of prejudice, stupidity or arrogance. Call Geraldo on his stupidity and pressure the network for his job. Then go a step further and pressure all those other talking heads who make racial slurs, hateful remarks about women and their children to cease and desist their own poisonous rantings and ravings.
We need to call EVERYONE into accountability and not pick and choose our outrage.
-- Posted by KH Gal on Sun, Mar 25, 2012, at 3:36 PM
-- Posted by lamont on Sun, Mar 25, 2012, at 3:54 PM
Bonnie Does the sign in the windows there mean no one can come in the store if they have a hoodie on, or does that mean they don't sell them?
Now days almost everyone wears a hoodie. I myself have 5 black ones. They are popular in the sports world.
It's a shame if you wear a hoodie your considered dangerous....
-- Posted by MsMarylin on Mon, Mar 26, 2012, at 11:18 AM
No, it means just that. No Hoodies are to be worn in the store. Most of the youth who wear them, always keep the hood up and thus obscure their faces from the security cameras.
It is also for their protection too. In case of mistaken identity.
I bet you don't wear your hood to obscure your face.
Just imagine 10 young people coming into your store and you can't see their faces. Later on there is a robbery and the security cameras haven't caught one person's face.
The same is true for banks and gas stations. No Hoodies, Sunglasses or Masks.
Hard to imagine in a smaller town. But here safety is key.
-- Posted by KH Gal on Mon, Mar 26, 2012, at 11:36 AM
Thanks Bonnie for explaining it to me. I didn't think about the security cameras
I only wear my hood up if the weather is bad, getting out of car or walking and it starts to rain, or the wind comes up. I hate the wind
I don't like wearing the hood up and only wear it up if I need to......
-- Posted by MsMarylin on Mon, Mar 26, 2012, at 12:52 PM
Sorry to take this blog off the original topic, Roy, but since some on here were against jumping to conclusions before all of the facts came out, I figured I would post the facts as they are being reported today.
It appears that Zimmerman didn't just walk up and shoot him. It was after Zimmerman was laying on the ground, bleeding from the head and nose, and yelling for help that he shot him. (According to Zimmerman and a 13 yr. old eyewitness)
This is why I didn't want to pass judgement. 1) I'm not a cop and don't know the facts. 2) The media likes to build things into a frenzy, like they tried doing here.
-- Posted by KentuckyTransplant on Mon, Mar 26, 2012, at 1:20 PM
Yes, my oh my with respect to the news of today on this event. It would seem that the facts are soon to be made clear and the original reports do not seem to be what was reported. Imagine that! Boy---some of you are pretty darn quiet out there. If it was your wife or husband in this same situation...how would you feel?
-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, Mar 26, 2012, at 1:50 PM
KT, thanks for the link, but the fact remains that he apparently followed the young man basically going against instructions from 911 not to do so. If you do something to prompt a confrontation, that should negate stand your ground. you can't go looking for trouble and then claim self defense when you use deadly force.
-- Posted by royincaldwell on Mon, Mar 26, 2012, at 1:58 PM
Well OM, I just got home and back online. Some of do have other things to do sometimes.
-- Posted by royincaldwell on Mon, Mar 26, 2012, at 2:00 PM
Roy, I posted a comment on this board saying the very same thing about 'pusuit', and I still stand by that. But, according to the girlfriend of Martin, she said in a recording that she heard Martin say, "why are your following me, and then the man asked, what are you doing around here." She then heard a scuffle break out and the line went dead.
From what the girlfriend says, it sounds like Zimmerman just asked what he was doing and the 6'3" kid beat the crap out of him. Not the 'hunt and kill' from a racist that the media tried to play this out to be.
That's my whole point. There are people who are calling for a lynching before they know all the facts and the media is loving it!
The same thing with this Geraldo stuff. Can you tell me one person who honestly cares what Geraldo thinks? Has anything he ever said really ever affected anyone?
He has been a screw up from day one. First there was the 2 hours of my life that I will never get back when I watched him uncover 'Al Capones vaults'! Then when the military kicked him out of Iraq for giving positions away on TV, and now this.
No one cares about Geraldo but, the media sees a way to twist things to sell 'stories'. It's all a big joke!
-- Posted by KentuckyTransplant on Mon, Mar 26, 2012, at 2:30 PM
Well KT, if your told not to follow and you do, I think that constitutes pursuit.
As for Geraldo, yes he is a bad joke, but my point was that Fox broadcast this manure. Why? Ratings? Sure wasn't to try and calm things down.
-- Posted by royincaldwell on Mon, Mar 26, 2012, at 2:41 PM
KT.......I STILL SAY HE PURSUED HIM AND HE HAD NO RIGHT TO DO THAT.I will not exscuse any assault on the kids part or on zimmermans part.I feel you and I had it right in the first place and I think that is what is going to happen in court PURSUIT you pursue then who becomes the agressor.MR zimmernam was told not to pursue and that is what this is going to hinge on.
The Iraq thing I NEVER COULD FIGURE OUT WHY GERALDO DIDNT LOOSE HIS CREDENTIALS AT A MINIMUME.and yes the media ran with the hoodie thing.You would have thought he would have shut up when his kid told him he was wrong.....
.Anyhow this is far from over.Question why do you think it took zimmerman so long to bring this forward ?? I ask because the time frames make this suspect, this kid has been dead a while....if it were me I would have said this the moment I got accused of wrong doing......what say you ??????
-- Posted by lamont on Mon, Mar 26, 2012, at 2:52 PM
all the networks produce manure. Nancy Grace Anyone? It doesn't mean that there aren't caring people out there in the world.
It just means that certain individuals got away with something. Kind of like David Letterman does on a daily basis.
What Fox News implies by Fair and Balanced. Is that they give both the liberals and the conservatives the opportunity to voice their views, stupidity or valid concerns.
-- Posted by KH Gal on Mon, Mar 26, 2012, at 3:24 PM
I'm with both of you guys. If the facts come out saying that he went looking for a fight, then he is in the wrong. But I will wait for the facts.
As far as the timeline, Lamont, I'm not sure on that one. Supposedly Zimmerman told the police all of this stuff from day one and made it a written statement the night of the shooting. Of course, the media didn't report it that way. I think the media, once again, is playing us. They would have you believe that all of this stuff is just now being said.
Ya know, I could be completely wrong here. The media may just be reporting facts as they get them. But it just seems to be common sense that they could have obtained the police report and found out all of this in the begining. The least they could have done is reported the story fairly. They have reported this story so one sided that now they have turned it into a circus. I'm sure the parents of this kid wanted media attention because they felt like they weren't getting justice but, I'm also sure that they didn't want to be part of this bigtop show with the Black Panthers and their bounty as the ringmasters.
-- Posted by KentuckyTransplant on Mon, Mar 26, 2012, at 3:30 PM
The original black panther party has DENOUNCED THE new black panther party and there bounty garbage.I knew they would that is not what they are about.The new want a be's have not got a clue what they should be focused on.They dont have any credibility and never have.
I thought this was intresting.
-- Posted by lamont on Mon, Mar 26, 2012, at 3:48 PM
PS, What I said doesn't take away the fact that a kid is dead, and for that I'm sad. I have 2 kids, 14 and 18, and if anything like this ever happened, I would want some justice too.
Even if Zimmerman did get his butt whooped, I don't think that constitutes shooting someone. But on the other hand, did Zimmerman know that this was just going to be a butt whooping and not something more? He did say that the kid was going for the gun.
Also, when I was shot in the head, the police used a residue kit on the suspects to confirm a shooter. The police didn't do that in this case and made many other mistakes, it sounds like. There has even been talk of Martin pulling the trigger during the struggle. Who knows? Again, that's why a hate to jump to conclusions.
-- Posted by KentuckyTransplant on Mon, Mar 26, 2012, at 3:48 PM
Glad to hear that, Lamont. I think this NBPP is just a bunch of gangsters and are no better than the people they say they are against.
-- Posted by KentuckyTransplant on Mon, Mar 26, 2012, at 3:54 PM
I heard zimmerman gave that statement the night of the shooting. I still have my doubts. I wonder if we will ever know the full truth, since Trayvon is't here to tell his side.
Bonnie I like Nancy Grace's storys accept the way she handles her show. Sometimes she won't let anyone talk and she is so rude. I watched her a lot when Casey Anthony was in the news, I have since backed off watching her show.
I like cnn wolf Blitzer, he seems to be pretty fair and has both partys on his show.
-- Posted by MsMarylin on Mon, Mar 26, 2012, at 4:13 PM
Finally some common sense. C.L. Bryant, former head of the NAACP has condemned J. Jackson and A. Sharpton in no uncertain terms.
-- Posted by royincaldwell on Mon, Mar 26, 2012, at 5:32 PM
Due to the legal ramifications of this entire matter---it takes time for details to be released. Everyone involved needs to beware of the angry mobs, etc.
There are always at least 2 sides to every story.
-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, Mar 26, 2012, at 6:30 PM
J.Jackson and Al have a lot to answer for. They are always trying to make a rooster look like a hen and complaining that the eggs are not as nice as they should be.
-- Posted by KH Gal on Mon, Mar 26, 2012, at 7:47 PM
Yes Mike they are, supposedly. Bonnie, you are kinder with your words than I could ever be.
These 2 are slugs willing to use a boy's tragic death to promote themselves. I put them in the same category as the New Black Panthers.
This old social liberal still has a sense of decency.
-- Posted by royincaldwell on Mon, Mar 26, 2012, at 8:02 PM
Roy: C.L. Bryan was not the former head of the NAACP.
It's funny how this was judged with no real facts from so far away.
Looks like Buckshot61 and OM were two that had it right. Wait for the facts. I bet more facts will be showing up soon.
-- Posted by arsenal on Tue, Mar 27, 2012, at 6:50 AM
arsenal, sorry I misspoke, former leader.
-- Posted by royincaldwell on Tue, Mar 27, 2012, at 6:57 AM
Are all the facts now in? The investigation over I am only getting bits and pieces.
What about the girlfriends call, which sets the time line to the incident? The police checked her cell phone records. She was talking to Trayvon almost up to the minute the police got there.
So many different versions and Trayvon can't tell his side of the story. Then there's the 911 tape which they have sent to Quantico Va for evaluation.
The police thinks there's a racial slur Zimmerman said while talking to the police.
I will wait until all the facts are in.
-- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, Mar 27, 2012, at 9:41 AM
Funny how some were ready to hang the guy but now y'all will wait for the facts. Two sides (or more) to every story. If you had vandals working over the area that you lived...and you came upon someone doing something---MOST of you would have followed the kid too. Come on now. Let us at least be honest.
As for the "racial slur" that has been alleged---I would wait to find out whos voice it is before you decide to rush to judgment. It may not have been anyone who was innvolved that night. There are many voices on the tape from that night and they belong to more than 2 people.
-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Tue, Mar 27, 2012, at 8:29 PM
THE ...issue is treatment and it is what brought this to the fore front 3 days and they didnt notify the parents,blood test the victim and not the shooter,no collection of evidence from his person,is there a picture of his injury's why not? IF YOU GET INJURED THE POLICE TAKE PICTURES,wHAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE SAID IS THEY DID NOT RECIEVE THE SAME TREATMENT OTHERS WOULD HAVE.REV SHARPTON has said the same thing, he did not say he got killed because he was black he said the case was not handled the way a case would have been handled if the kid had been the shooter that is what he has said.Murder is murder I dont care about hate crime,however if you confront someone because of there ethenicity( BLACK OR WHITE ETC) THEN THAT tool becomes available.The tool is there because of the NON prosecutions in the south of WHITES,IT allows the feds to prosecute were the locals didnt.
I dont know about the media but 2 things I brought up, a case that happened about the same time that is NOT being talked about by the MEDIA and that does BOTHER me,and the shooter is BLACK.
I personally believe it is not being brought into the mix because he is black.
I dont think anyone here tried to paint Zimmmerman in any political light.SO I DONT KNOW WERE THAT CAME FROM It seemed to me for one of the few times nobody here seemed to care and that WAS a good thing.SO why is it being brought in now?
SIT ON THE PORCH THAT IS A GOOD THING ,THE PURSUIT IS THE BAD THING.I will stick with..... the law has holes in it that created the atmosphere and the incidents in florida,the guy who wrote IT says so and so goes law enforcement.IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.
This incident brings PROFILING to the front again and we usually get bad results from it and there is no difference here.WE HAVNT LEARNED A DARN THING AND WONT AS LONG AS IT IS HAPPENING TO THE OTHER GUY.
-- Posted by lamont on Wed, Mar 28, 2012, at 10:21 AM
Buckshot and Mike, explain to me and the others just what the heck party affiliation has to do with this tragedy. Or is this an attempt to stir some kind of poop?
-- Posted by royincaldwell on Wed, Mar 28, 2012, at 11:11 AM
I guess if you can paint this in a political light you can discount the validity of the protest of the handeling of this incident.The only irony here is that a 17yr is dead because of a want to be cop,and a national outrage because of a lazy prosecuter. That prosecuter brought into question the integrity of the justice system.THAT IS WHAT I SEE ,WHAT DO YOU SEE ROY?????????
-- Posted by lamont on Wed, Mar 28, 2012, at 12:07 PM
I see Buckshot's non-answer as a huge pile of poop. He has an overwhelming desire to turn all things political, including a human death. It shows his true soul.
-- Posted by royincaldwell on Wed, Mar 28, 2012, at 12:16 PM
THIS MUST STOP........I just got through reading about A White teenager set on fire in KC OUT SIDE OF A PREDOMINATLEY BLACK SCHOOL AND NOTHING WAS DONE.......IT would appear based on the kids words to be a hate crime,there is no exscuse for this. A crime committed is a crime,I cannot and will not condone the media or any one deciding to not report something because THEY dont want to.FOR the police not to investigate and to charge implies something that no one wants,SELECTIVE JUSTICE.I have fought against that all my life and now I see it comming full circle.If we want this garbage to stop in America the garbage that is transpiring right now MUST stop.The justice system must BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO US ALL AND FOR US ALL NOT AS SOME SEE FIT.
-- Posted by lamont on Wed, Mar 28, 2012, at 12:58 PM
Mike, I disagree with you as to your view of Buckshot's comment.
-- Posted by royincaldwell on Wed, Mar 28, 2012, at 3:14 PM
Buckshot, you seemed to have missed the point of this blog when I posted it. It was about a bozo and his comments about hoodies.
You don't like my blogs, don't read them or comment on them.
Many of your assumptions are pompous.
-- Posted by royincaldwell on Wed, Mar 28, 2012, at 6:00 PM
The need to attack and more to DEMEAN anyone who is sopposedly liberal or doesnt agree with A CERTAIN WAY OF THINKING has now overtaken simple conversation.IT would also appear that anything that is positive will be turned negative if it concerns a liberal.So we are now bloging HATE....disguised but HATE AND CONTEMPT NON THE LESS as stated before hates liberals, seems like we heard that before from HOMER.The personal attacks by using demeaning words in refernce to PEOPLES intelligence is POMPESITY AT IT'S HEIGHT.BUT I am sure in whatever world that comes from it is justified accordingly.
I WOULDNT bet on liberals not toting guns,That would be a bad bet.But who knows maybe the castle doctrine will do us a favor.
-- Posted by lamont on Wed, Mar 28, 2012, at 6:16 PM
ABC has released a video showing Zimmerman in cuffs getting out of a police car. He gets out of the car showing no signs of pain or stress. The cops check him over (not wearing gloves) No signs of blood or injury on his face, no signs of blood on his shirt or jacket. Shirt still tucked in his pants. No signs of an abrasion on the back of his head. No signs of blood on the back of his head.
The cops touch his jacket inside and out and search his pockets. No gloves so that tells me their not worried about their hands touching someone else's blood
-- Posted by MsMarylin on Wed, Mar 28, 2012, at 7:12 PM
NOW.....MS M you know the liberal media doctored that tape,and even if they didnt you didn't see what you thought you saw.WE ARE TO DUMB ,TO OLD,TO BLIND,TO STUPID,TO LIBERAL TO KNOW WHAT WE SAW just wait a few and someone will tell us what we saw........right..............Blood, what blood?? if there was blood they would have on gloves because of aids,and if that was a pat down ?? exscuse me........have a great one....I'LL be waiting to see what I DIDNT UNDERSTAND.....after all I do wear glasses sometimes.......latter
-- Posted by lamont on Wed, Mar 28, 2012, at 7:32 PM
This is beyond silly and too sad for words. Constant sniping and accusations.
We have all been guilty of being selective on our facts from time to time.
Now tell me something. Did anyone see the picture of the Congressman with a Hoodie on today? Did he even resemble the Statesman that he is supposed to be? No, he looked mean and sneaky.
We all look mean and sneaky when we cover our heads up and hunch our shoulders. Add a pair sun-glasses and a pair of pants with a waistband down to your knees, and people will make assumptions.
Why? Because somewhere on the news almost every day, they show crime footage of some person with a hoodie or sunglasses robbing a convenience store. It doesn't bode well if you choose not to dress for success these days.
Human behavior is not something that any one person can predict. The sad fact is that this young person lost his life.
The man who shot him will never be the same. And if he is guilty of some ulterior motive, let the law sort it out.
This is not a political issue, a race issue or a unique hate crime. Anytime a life is lost by murder is a hate crime, no matter what a person's color, sexual preference or religion.
Everyone deserves the same liberties in this country unless they violate the laws of the land.
It will never be fair, never be resolved, never be healed as long as as the band-aid called Political Correctness keeps getting slapped back on the injury.
As for the parasites that go down and post their behinds in front of cameras to claim otherwise, they need to get a life of their own. Goodness knows that they have tried to make brown cow manure look green enough times.
I will repeat it again, Someone lost their life. Those are the facts as we know them. Nothing else is relevant.
-- Posted by KH Gal on Wed, Mar 28, 2012, at 8:28 PM
The facts are a young boy 17 years old lost his life and he will never have a life again!
Knowing how he lost his life is relevant! If my son was killed I would want to know why.... I would accept the truth.......Only the truth one way or the other
-- Posted by MsMarylin on Wed, Mar 28, 2012, at 8:37 PM
-- Posted by lamont on Wed, Mar 28, 2012, at 9:20 PM
Msm, according to the police, an ambulance was requested at the scene for Zimmerman. I'm sure they would have cleaned him up and removed blood so they could clearly see if there were any wounds. I'm not a forensic specialist so I don't know where blood should and shouldn't be.
As far as him not showing pain or stress in the video... I was shot in the head, point blank range when I was 16. I did not go down or pass out, was able to get the license plate number of the car the guys got into, and was joking with the ambulance personel on the way to the hospital. Everybody deals with pain and stress differently.
You can pick away at bits and pieces of this case all you want but, until you look at the whole picture, you'll never what's going on.
I'm not taking up for the guy, just pointing out the obvious.
-- Posted by KentuckyTransplant on Wed, Mar 28, 2012, at 9:39 PM
KT I am so sorry. I would of freaked out if one of my kids got shot in the head. That had to have been very very scary and painful for you. You are very lucky you survived that shooting.
I have a Nephew who when he was 2 years old was shot in his chest, missing his heart, and he survived. I think he is in his 40's now and a Grandpa.
If the ambulance was called for Zimmerman and his wounds were cleaned, he would of had blood on his clothing, as nose's do bleed an awful lot. Heads bleed a lot to. I know that when one of my boys hit his friend on accident causing a gash on his head. That wound bled and bled and I couldn't stop the bleeding until he was taken to the hospital.
I'm not sure how long after the shooting Zimmerman was brought to the police station and the camera's there captured him.
The video as well as the 911 call and other facts in this case will, I hope eventually tell the truth.
-- Posted by MsMarylin on Wed, Mar 28, 2012, at 10:14 PM
I just thought of something else........
Why wasn't there any blood splatter from the shooting on Zimmerman? Wasn't Trayvon shot at close range?
-- Posted by MsMarylin on Wed, Mar 28, 2012, at 10:18 PM
Thank God not all Republicans are as cold hearted and Judgemental as Busckshot61.
-- Posted by MsMarylin on Wed, Mar 28, 2012, at 11:05 PM
Ya know, I was wondering that too (blood splatter) but, didn't want to bring it up. It just makes you wonder what all facts are not being told or we just don't know about. That's why I didn't jump to too many conclusions.
As far as my shooting, it wasn't too painful :) Like I mentioned in a previous blog, I grew up in pretty bad parts of Louisville. My dad was a drinker and called my mom one night to pick him up from a bar. Mom was sleeping so I answered the phone and since I just turned 16, I thought it would be fun to drive so, I went to get him. When I got there, 5 guys followed us out to the parking lot looking for a fight. One pulled out a gun and shot me in the head. The shooter was a 38 year old man named Charles Cooper from Cleveland, a black guy. With him were 4 of his friends, also black. I never once thought it was a hate crime, just a bunch of drunken idiots.
The same thing with this shooting that has everyone talking. I don't think it is a hate crime or race related. But for some stupid reason, people are trying to push that.
BTW, the guy who shot me was only convicted of wanton endangerment (no jail time) and had to pay me $800 restitution. He said he hit me in the head and the gun accidentally went off HA!
So ya see, these kind of things go both ways. It's just some people try and turn stuff into something it's not.
-- Posted by KentuckyTransplant on Wed, Mar 28, 2012, at 11:07 PM
Why is it the media never reports on any black on black murders or black on white murders? There's plenty of them out there. Just last week, a baby in her bassinet at her Chicago home was killed in a drive-by shooting. But we never hear about these other killings. Aren't there deaths just as important as Travyon Martins? The media never concerns itself with these other crimes. They just sensationalize the crimes involving whites (or part white) against blacks.
-- Posted by Second Wind on Thu, Mar 29, 2012, at 8:00 AM
Second Wind:
Juan Williams asked the same thing. All deaths are tragic. Selective reporting is what is ruining this country today. I mean both sides too.
-- Posted by KH Gal on Thu, Mar 29, 2012, at 8:53 AM
Zook I only can show what is available to show. I also believe the media shows or releases news as it comes to them. As far as the video goes, it was most likely chopped down to fit into a time frame and only showed the important part.
I once was filmed for Animal Planet. They did 4 hours of shooting for a 30 minute show. My part wasn't the most important in the film, so my part hit the cutting floor. It was filmed in Missouri, and the producer and camera crew came out of New York.
And I will add I think there are so many many stories to tell, they choose the ones that will draw interest to improve their network ratings
-- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, Mar 29, 2012, at 9:12 AM
FUNNY THING I HAVE BEEN SCREAMING ABOUT SELECTIVE REPORTING FROM THE BEGINNING ALL OF A SUDDEN WE START TO SEE IT...we are getting away from the real issue MARTIN was pursued....he ran from this guy the guy pursued.Now when and if he was corned He stood his ground. How did this kid go from victim to perpetrater ?? when nothing in any report bares that out.I said from the beginning that Race was not the issue, now we are making it that way.I BROUGHT UP A CRIME SIMILAR THAT JUST HAPPENED IN florida and everyone ignored ,I said it was more heineos than martin and that I felt the media did not bring it out because the shooter is BLACK I STILL SAY THATS what is happening.
Dont loose sight of the pursuit, that will be the main stay on this.In the mean time while they are busy tring to make the kid into some kinda of criminal take a look at zimmerman he was and accident waiting to happen that is my opinion.
I DONT think any cut and paste job was done,and I dont think AT THIS POINT TO MANY MORE THINGS CAN BE HELD BACK,SO LET IT ROLL.
-- Posted by lamont on Thu, Mar 29, 2012, at 9:37 AM
Thanks for posting this article, Buckshot. Unfortunately, the people who need to read and understand this the most wont bother. As Obama's henchman stated, "Never let a good crisis go to waste". The Travyon Martin shooting is the perfect crisis to divert the public's attention from the real issues facing the country. And just in time for Obama's re-election campaign!
-- Posted by Second Wind on Fri, Mar 30, 2012, at 8:09 AM
SW is right we need to get back to the real Issue "Womens BODYS" even thought your blog is about Fox News and the Trayvon Martin Case .
A new poll of candidate favor abilities show that just as former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney seems to be wrapping up the Republican nomination for President, Americans seem to like him less.
New numbers from ABC News and the Washinton Post show President Obama viewed favorably by 53 percent of Americans versus 43 percent who see him unfavorably, while Romney has reached a new low in their polling, at a 34 - 50 split. "His unfavorable score is higher than Obama ever has received; it's been exceeded by just one other Republican candidate this year, Newt Gingrich, and by only one top candidate in 28 years, Hillary Clinton in 2008," ABC News pollster Gary Langer wrote
If you want to knock down ABC News I heard it on many other channels... But then you guys only like fox news..... One Channel and by the way is owned by Rupert Murdoch and we know about his scandal....
Why doesn't Newt get out of the race? Answer: He lives in Newtville on the other side of the moon.
-- Posted by MsMarylin on Fri, Mar 30, 2012, at 9:34 AM
I wonder why the President didn't say if he had a son he'd look like Shawn?
-- Posted by arsenal on Fri, Mar 30, 2012, at 10:03 AM
The educational value of that post can stand on it's own ,could be disputed however why bother when it is obvious based on the how ,where and why's the insults were thrown that it would be to no avail.The total disrespect to the entire subject matter and the subjects speak volumes for a specific attitude . THE DAVID DUKES OF THIS GENERATION WOULD BE PROUD.
-- Posted by lamont on Fri, Mar 30, 2012, at 12:24 PM
Polls don't mean a thing, especially when they
are conducted by left-wing media sources. Anyone who would be the slightest bit influenced by slanted polls don't have the courage of their convictions. The only numbers that matter will come in November.
-- Posted by Second Wind on Fri, Mar 30, 2012, at 2:23 PM
Your correct on one point NOVEMBER We have along way to go before then. Obama's numbers will keep climbing. Do you have any other news source other then Fox News to get your info from ? Probably not accept for those Obama bashing web sites that started popping up back in 2008 when Republicans were desperate to get their lies known.
Roy I'm sorry Second Wind and Bucky took a dump on your blog
-- Posted by MsMarylin on Fri, Mar 30, 2012, at 2:41 PM
MH RESIDENT....MR BUCHANAN HAS MADE SOME STERLING POINTS AND IN MOST CASES I WOULD AGREE.I do feel how ever that mr Buchanan leaves out a very potent point.BY HAVING AND INSTITUIONALIZED SEGRAGATIONIST POLICY FOR 200 PLUS YEARS IT CREATED A SECOND RATE MENTALITY.I have to believe and know I am the same as to be the same as.For some of us we were raised to believe and therfore we are succesfull against long odds but to exspect that if you treat people paternalistcally,food stamps ,welfare,etc that you are telling them they are the same as, you are mistaken.You said one thing and did another.I see welfare as utilized today as keeping the slaves alive till needed.THAT is not what is needed or desired,but as it took generations to get here it will take the same to change.And yes the poor steal from the(PERCIEVED RICH) in other words they feel you have more than they do and had and easy time getting it. DO NOT READ THIS AS AND EXSCUSE OR AND ALIBI IT IS NOT IT IS A REALITY....I AM BLACK AND I HAVE THE AMERICAN DREAM......BUT THE COST WAS VERY HIGH AND IN SOME INSTANCES IT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN........THAT IS REFLECTED IN BLACK MORTALITY RATES WE DONT LIVE AS LONG AS YOU DO AND THE RELATED DESEASES ARE FROM STRESS.tHE STRESS OF DAY TO DAY LIFE AS A BLACK........NO anger here no nothing just facts you can ck for yourself.....have a great day.
-- Posted by lamont on Sat, May 19, 2012, at 1:59 PM
Hmmmm...not liberal, eh Roy. That's a good one. Your commentary and stance on issues are just about one-click West of Obama; in my opinion. What Geraldo was trying to say is that if you court a particular lifestyle, you are going to have to deal with the consequences that come of it. It's not the hoodie, but the perception. There is no doubt that what happened to Trayvon Martin was terrible and as a parent and grandparent, I would be just as heart broken if any members of my family were taken from me in a similar fashion. Do you mean to tell me Roy, that if a man was walking through your neighborhood, at night, with a hoodie on that you wouldn't do a double-take?
In a similar situation, I might wish to take a stand to determine the intent of of a potential aggressor. Especially if my neighborhood had been victimized as often as Zimmerman's. It is going to come out (already has) that the district attorney overreached in this case. Witnesses have testified under oath that Martin was on top of Zimmerman and was beating on him. Zimmerman's father testified, under oath, that it is his son's voice screaming for help on the 9-1-1 call.
A terrible tragedy happened that night. But neither you nor I were there. Geraldo has a point, whether you agree with him or not. I have been told that people's perception is their reality. If the perception that night was that Trayvon was a threat...
You can blame Fox News for Geraldo's comments, but that makes about as much sense to me as blaming Mountain Home News for yours on this blog.
-- Posted by GetRealNow on Thu, Jun 14, 2012, at 8:46 PM
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Chinese film evening, 29/11: Woman Demon Human 人鬼情
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Chinese Film and the Medical Humanities: ten workshops
Tuesday evenings (6.30pm) during term-time, 15 November 2016 to 7 February 2017, IAS Seminar Room 11, First Floor, South Wing, Wilkins Building
Chinese New Year celebrations 2013
24 January 2013
Celebrate the Year of the Snake with us on Tuesday February 12 from 3pm onwards in Wilkins Lower Refectory, UCL.
Varied programme of free events, plus a 5-course banquet cooked by Kam Po But, London's premier Chinese chef, at the bargain price of £12. PLEASE REGISTER at
http://www.eventbrite.co.uk/event/5233593820 (free events)
http://www.eventbrite.co.uk/event/5267270548 (banquet).
Roll your own dimsum
Noodle making demonstration
Stalls: British Chinese Workforce Heritage, OCS Children Fund
Lecture: British Chinese Food - Dr Vivienne Lo
4.30-6pm (tbc)
Traditional Chinese music from virtuoso flautist Hu Ruijun and members of the UK Chinese Ensemble
Five-course banquet cooked by premier Chinese chef Kam Po But, £12
Registration essential.
7pm (Gustav Tuck LT, Main building)
Film screening and discussion: Mountain Patrol (Kekexili 可可西里)
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Hurray! Thanks for the photos, Norma! I like the stuff in the floor! super cool stuff! too bad you didn't get to be a customer and eat some of their pizza. I wonder why the hours were adjusted?I'm super curious about the pizza! I'll just have to go there some time. Hopefully they'll be open if I drive 8 hrs to check it out!?!Thanks Norma! Our roving pizza reporter!
While I'm sure these are great guys who most likely put out a solid pie, I think it's a bit of a stretch to call this a pizza 'museum.' It's really just a kitschy pizzeria, imo.
http://www.cntraveler.com/daily-traveler/2012/09/pizza-museum-philadelphia-pennsylvania-photos#slide=1there's a photo slideshow at the bottom of the page, including a pie shot.
Thanks for the links, norma! i was trying to get a good view of the menu, but couldn't see it well until the ebay auction. sounds delicious, if you ask me! and, i noticed on the bottom of the menu.... delivery coming soon! i wonder how many museums can tout that?And the Pizzalebrity Wall Of Fame Mural.. hilarious! what a bunch of cards these guys are! Only thing I don't like is them not holding true to their hours. that's a bit of a disappointment. You've got to build trust with your peeps, and not being open is less than trustworthy. I hope the get it together on that account.


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