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Rubáiyát of Omar Khayyám, Astronomer Poet of Persia, Edward FitzGerald
Rubáiyát of Omar Khayyám, Astronomer Poet of Persia Edward FitzGerald
The English translation and revision of an eleventh-century Persian poem by Omar Khayyám.
The following entry provides criticism on Edward FitzGerald's Rubáiyát of Omar Khayyám, Astronomer Poet of Persia (1859; revised in 1868, 1872, and 1879).
FitzGerald's Rubáiyát (1859; revised in 1868, 1872, and 1879) is a lyric poem consisting of 110 quatrains (four-line stanzas). The original Rubáiyát was composed of discreet rubái, or four-line poems, and FitzGerald refashioned this by selecting 110 of them and arranging them thematically into a whole. FitzGerald's translation preserves the original poem's aaba rhyme scheme, a traditional Middle Eastern rhyme scheme that is very unusual in Western poetry. The poem depicts a simple man who finds solace by escaping into material pleasures, and treats the universal and ageless themes of doubt, fear, and regret.
Biographical Information
FitzGerald was born to a distinguished family of Irish heritage on March 31, 1809, at Bredfield, near Woodbridge, in the Suffolk area of England. When he was seven, the family moved to France, returning to England two years later upon the death of his maternal grandfather, and his mother's resulting inheritance of several estates. After graduating from Trinity College, Cambridge, in 1830, FitzGerald, an amiable, self-effacing and retiring young man, lived quietly, and modestly, possibly in reaction to an upbringing marked by luxury. He was a prolific letter-writer, corresponding regularly with such close friends as William Makepeace Thakeray and Alfred, Lord Tennyson—both of whom he met at Cambridge—and Thomas Carlyle. Beginning in the 1830s, FitzGerald wrote numerous poems and essays, nearly all of which went unpublished. His Euphranor, a philosophical dialogue, was published in 1851, followed by Polonius, an anthology of quotations, in 1852. FitzGerald began studying Spanish ballads and drama, and his translation of six dramas by Pedro Calderón de la Barca was published in 1853. It is, as are all of FitzGerald's translations, a very liberal reworking of the original. At the encouragement of his friend Edward Byles Cowell, a multilingual scholar, FitzGerald began learning Persian. In 1856 FitzGerald's translation of Jāmī's allegory Salámán and Absál was published. That summer, Cowell, just before moving with his wife to Calcutta, India, discovered a manuscript of Omar's Rubáiyát at the Bodleian Library at Oxford. At the time, Omar was renowned in his native land (now Iran) as a brilliant scientist and, somewhat less so, as a poet. His poetry was essentially unknown in the Western world. Cowell copied the manuscript to show FitzGerald, who proceeded to translate it, corresponding with his friend, now in Calcutta, for advice. Cowell disapproved of the liberties that FitzGerald would take in the translation process. FitzGerald's Rubáiyát, translated anonymously and published in 1859, went virtually unnoticed until discovered by Dante Gabriel Rossetti the following year. As its success modestly grew, FitzGerald felt compelled to revise it three times; these editions were published in 1868, 1872, and 1879. By the third edition, he was known to be the anonymous translator. FitzGerald had begun to translate Greek drama; his Agamemnon was published in 1865 and his version of Oedipus Rex and Oedipus at Colonus appeared in 1880-81. But he is known primarily for his Rubáiyát, which became immensely popular in the late nineteenth century, after FitzGerald's death in 1883.
Plot and Major Characters
FitzGerald's Rubáiyát spans one day, from dawn until dusk. As morning breaks, the narrator of the poem is contemplative. He reflects upon the transience of all things, and contemplates man's inability to comprehend or influence destiny, but finds enjoyment in the material pleasures of life. The narrator, who views hedonism—particularly in the form of drinking wine—as the cure for man's ills, is accompanied by a Saki, or wine-pourer, and imbibes throughout the day. In a humorous section of several stanzas referred to as the "Kuza Nama", animated clay pots ponder and discuss the mysteries of their existence, and then become quiet in anticipation of being filled with wine. The narrator, continuing to brood, is moved to anger by thoughts of the indifference of God, imagining that life is like a chess game in which people are mere pawns of destiny, with God looking on but not caring about the outcome of the game. As the day progresses into evening, the narrator associates his fading youth and eventual death with the approach of darkness.
Major Themes
In the Rubáiyát, the sequence of a day acts as a metaphor for the passage of time. The poem extols the hedonistic pleasures of food, sex, and wine, and the importance of living for today, because the future is uncertain and life is fleeting. It contemplates the riddle of life and expresses mankind's doubts, regrets, and fears. Written during a time of religious upheaval—its first edition was published the same year as Darwin's Origin of Species—the poem's questioning of religion and traditional morality was both shocking and fascinating to its readers.
Critical Reception
FitzGerald's original compositions, as well as the majority of his translated works, were poorly received by his contemporaries. The Rubáiyát went virtually unnoticed for a year after its publication, until Rossetti stumbled across it in a bargain bin, and the poem became admired by him and fellow Pre-Raphaelites for its refreshing impiety and sensuality. Upon the publication of the poem's second edition, American Charles Eliot Norton wrote a highly laudatory review of FitzGerald's translation of the poem, and indicated that he preferred FitzGerald's version to another recently-written, and more faithful, translation of the poem. Some critics faulted the Rubáiyát for many of the same flaws of style and tone perceived in FitzGerald's earlier works, but most hailed the translation as a lyrically beautiful original creation and praised FitzGerald's reorganization of Omar's quatrains as a stylistic change that retained the poetic spirit of the original. The work became so popular during the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries that, according to critic Daniel Schenker, it lost some of its "artfulness" and did not receive very much scholarly study. Modern critics who have written about the Rubáiyát echo the assessments of earlier critics, and additionally comment upon the poem's wide-ranging influence.
Principal Works
Euphranor: A Dialogue on Youth (dialogues) 1851; revised 1855
Polonius: A Collection of Wise Saws and Modern Instances [editor] (aphorisms and quotations) 1852
*Six Dramas of Calderón, Freely Translated [translator] (plays) 1853
Salámán and Absál [translator; from Salámán and Absál by Jāmī] (allegory) 1856; revised 1871
Rubáiyát of Omar Khayyám, Astronomer Poet of Persia [translator] (poetry) 1859; revised editions, 1868, 1872, and 1879
Agamemnon: A Tragedy Taken from Aeschylus [translator] (play) 1865
The Mighty Magician and Such Stuff As Dreams Are Made Of: Two Plays Translated from Calderón [translator] (play) 1865
Readings in Crabbe: Tales of the Hall (poetry) 1879
The Downfall and Death of King Oedipus. 2 vols. [translator; from Oedipus Rex and Oedipus at Colonus by Sophocles] (play) 1880-81
Letters and Literary Remains of Edward FitzGerald. 3 vols. (letters, poetry, and dialogues) 1889
Letters of Edward FitzGerald. 4 vols. (letters) 1980
*Includes The Painter of His Own Dishonour; Keep Your Own Secret; Gil Perez, the Gallician; Three Judgments at a Blow; The Mayor of Zalamea; and Beware of Smooth Water
Charles Eliot Norton (review date October 1869)
SOURCE: Norton, Charles Eliot. "Nicolas's Quatrains de Khèyam." North American Review 109, no. 225 (October 1869): 565-84.
[In the following review, Norton compares the second edition of FitzGerald's Rubáiyát with J. B. Nicolas's version, finding that though the two versions agree in their literal meaning, Nicolas interprets the original poem as laden with spiritual metaphor, while FitzGerald interprets it primarily at face value, as sensual and hedonistic. Norton commends FitzGerald's version, particularly for bringing freshness to the poem through his liberal translation style, and assesses Nicolas's more exact translation as "dry."]
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Hugh Walker (essay date 1910)
SOURCE: Walker, Hugh. "The Turn of the Century: New Influences." In The Literature of the Victorian Era, pp. 444-526. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1910.
[In the following excerpt, Walker praises FitzGerald's Rubáiyát for capturing the essence of the original better than any other (more faithful) translation of it.]
There is no man in recent literature more difficult to 'place' than Edward FitzGerald. His position is unique. Professedly only a translator, he was in reality an original poet as well, ranking, in respect of power, after only a very few of his contemporaries. "An eccentric man of genius," it was his whim or his peculiarity to...
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John W. Draper (essay date October 1963)
SOURCE: Draper, John W. "FitzGerald's Persian Local Color." Philological Papers 14 (October 1963): 26-56.
[In the following essay, Draper suggests that FitzGerald added numerous details of local color to the Rubáiyát because he was restyling the poem into an eclogue. Draper analyzes these additions, and maintains that they adhere to Persian scenery and customs.]
For his English version of the Rubáiyát of 'Umar Khayyám (d.1124?), FitzGerald used two late and widely differing manuscripts: the Bodleian (1460-61) with 158 quatrains, and the Calcutta, an undated and ill-written Indian text, with 516. The more authentic Cambridge manuscript (1207)...
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John D. Yohannan (essay date spring 1971)
SOURCE: Yohannan, John D. "The Fin de Siècle Cult of FitzGerald's 'Rubaiyat' of Omar Khayyam." Review of National Literatures 2, no. 1 (spring 1971): 74-91.
[In the following essay, Yohannan suggests that the immense fin de siècle popularity of the Rubáiyát was due to its existential angst, which corresponded with the diminishment of religious faith in the latter half of the nineteenth century, and also due to its accessibility, as a brief and "middlebrow" poem.]
A translated Persian poem, which was Edward FitzGerald's consolation against a melancholy life, became—even in his own lifetime—a literary fad in both England and America....
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Iran B. Hassani Jewett (essay date 1977)
SOURCE: Jewett, Iran B. Hassani. "The Rubáiyát of Omar Khayyám." In Edward FitzGerald, pp. 73-111. London: George Prior Publishers, 1977.
[In the following excerpt, Jewett compares FitzGerald's Rubáiyát to its source, maintaining that the original contains greater variance in theme and mood, and more humor, while FitzGerald's version contains more vivid imagery, as well as more action and movement.]
FITZGERALD'S VERSION OF THE RUBáIYáT
FitzGerald's Rubáiyát—the "Epicurean Eclogue" as FitzGerald once described it—follows a pattern that is lacking in the original. By their very genre, Omar...
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Daniel Schenker (essay date spring 1981)
SOURCE: Schenker, Daniel. "Fugitive Articulation: An Introduction to The Rubáiyát of Omar Khayyám." Victorian Poetry 19, no. 1 (spring 1981): 49-64.
[In the following essay, Schenker discusses the Rubáiyát's metaphorical devices and its garden setting, suggesting that its readers found it an appealing escape into an exotic and amoral, but still somewhat secure, world. Schenker suggests that the poem became overly familiar and popular and that this resulted in a decline in scholarly interest in and analysis of the work.]
Over a half century ago Ezra Pound remarked that FitzGerald's re-creation of Omar Khayyám was one of the finest works...
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Vinnie-Marie D'Ambrosio (essay date 1989)
SOURCE: D'Ambrosio, Vinnie-Marie. "The Possession" and "Parodying Omar at Harvard." In Eliot Possessed, pp. 3-7, 89-128. New York: New York University Press, 1989.
[In the following excerpts from two chapters in Eliot Possessed, D'Ambrosio maintains that FitzGerald's Rubáiyát profoundly influenced T. S. Eliot's works, particularly "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock."]
Because the reputation of the Rubáiyát has lain at its nadir for some fifty years, the poem's impact on Eliot, or on anyone, has not seemed to be a probable subject for serious consideration.1 Its effect,...
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Tracia Leacock-Seghatolislami (essay date 2000)
SOURCE: Leacock-Seghatolislami, Tracia. "The Tale of the Inimitable Rubaiyat." In Edward FitzGerald's The Rubáiyát of Omar Khayyám, edited by Harold Bloom, pp. 195-207. Philadelphia: Chelsea House Publishers, 2004.
[In the following essay, originally published in 2000, Leacock-Seghatolislami outlines the positive and negative effects of FitzGerald's liberal translation of Khayyám's Rubáiyát.]
It is difficult to decide where to start with the Edward FitzGerald-Omar Khayyam debate, because so much has been written, it deserves its own library. Of course, most of the debate has been focused on decrying FitzGerald's liberal rendering of Khayyam. This essay...
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Erik Gray (essay date autumn 2001)
SOURCE: Gray, Erik. "Forgetting FitzGerald's Rubáiyát." Studies in English Literature, 1500-1900 41, no. 4 (autumn 2001): 765-83.
[In the following essay, Gray studies the ephemeral qualities of the Rubáiyát, suggesting that in both its structure and content, it is an exhortation to forgetting, and is well remembered partly because, paradoxically, its various editions obscure it.]
Edward FitzGerald's Rubáiyát of Omar Khayyám constantly advises the reader to forget—preferably with the help of a drink: "Ah, my Belovéd, fill the Cup that clears / To-day of past Regret and future Fears." And again—"Oh, many a Cup of this forbidden...
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Further Reading
"Edward FitzGerald." In Bibliographies of Twelve Victorian Authors, edited by Theodore G. Ehrsam and Robert H. Deily, pp. 78-90. New York: The H. W. Wilson Company, 1936.
Provides a list of bibliographical, biographical, and critical sources on FitzGerald and his works.
Timko, Michael. "Edward FitzGerald." In The Victorian Poets: A Guide to Research, edited by Frederic E. Faverty, pp. 137-48. Cambridge: Harvard University Press, 1956.
Summarizes and evaluates the bibliographical, biographical, and critical materials available on FitzGerald and his works.
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My local Tea Shop has a variety of tea that they call "Wild Arbor Buds". They classify them as a white tea, and also as a pu erh.
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Man arrested in Iron River on assault, drug charges
Voters OK 911 millage, IM school bond issue
By LINDA LOBECK
Staff Writer
IRON MOUNTAIN – Both issues put before voters during a special election Tuesday passed – with Dickinson County's 911 system and the Iron Mountain Public School District – getting the necessary approval to move ahead with improvements.
Voters in the Iron Mountain School District approved a request to borrow up to $9.5 million for 18 years for school improvements.
The breakdown of the 1,225 votes case was 654 in favor of the bonding proposal and 571 opposed – a difference of 83 votes.
A previous bond issue for the school district was put to voters in Iron Mountain in May 2012 and was voted down by 46 votes. That bond issue looked for approval of $11 million for 20 years for improvements.
The 10 cities and townships that make up Dickinson County approved a request on Tuesday for 0.4 mills for three years to improve and operate the county's enhanced 911 system – replacing the current system that was purchased in 1991.
The breakdown of the 2,529 votes cast on Tuesday for this request was 1,653 in favor and 876 against – a difference of 777 votes.
"I'm so glad that it passed – and not by a closer margin. If that would have happened, then we would have wondered if people really wanted it or were behind us," noted Sheriff Scott Celello.
He added that he had heard from a lot of people when the proposal was on the general election ballot. "They said that they went down and voted no on all the state proposals not realizing that the last one was for the county 911 system."
"I also think we did a better job of clarifying what this millage request was all about. And when looking at the numbers from the election, you see that it passed by 62, 67 and 69 percent in the three Iron Mountain precincts and by 82 percent in the city of Norway. Both of these areas rely on us dispatching for them after hours and would have been affected by any changes," Celello said.
Moving on after the approval from the election, Celello added that they will get together with the Dickinson County Board of Commissioners and start gathering information on the different systems that are available.
"We have to look and see what's compatible with what we have and then we can send out requests for proposals. We will look at different options so we can get started on the improvements to the system," he said.
"I'm excited for this. It was getting to be at a critical point and then the county would have had to decide whether to continue on or make some changes," Celello added.
Dispatchers working for the 911 enhanced system also indicated that they were happy that the millage passed Tuesday and are thankful to the voters in the county.
Iron Mountain Schools Supt. Tom Jayne also expressed his thanks to the voters for passing the bond proposal Tuesday. "I just want to thank the Mountaineer community for getting out and voting yesterday and for believing in our efforts to make these needed improvements. I promise the voters we will be good stewards of this money. These improvements will pay it forward for the next 20-30 years. I just can't thank them enough."
The next step for the school district will be going out and advertising to sell the bonds, which are also available for the local area to buy. This process should be completed by the end of May.
"Then the work will begin. Our first concentration is to make sure East Elementary School is ready for the fall with improvements done in the areas of safety and security, plumbing and heating," he said noting that there will be a larger influx of students and adults in the building next year.
Technology needs will also be addressed and then the larger projects of retrofitting the heating and lighting systems, phone system and safety and security will be tackled.
"This will help out with next year's budget in the areas of technology, heating and maintenance. We can't thank the voters enough – our Mountaineer pride came through yesterday. I also respect the voters who voted no in these tough economic times. But these are definitely needs for the school district and not wants."
For example, he noted that last week at North Elementary School one of the two boilers there was down and they are left with one that is running all the time.
"It (boiler) literally rotted from the inside out and to replace it would be a $65,000 investment. Another recent problem was on Monday when we started hosting the girls basketball tournament, a pipe and water heater went. The pipe was gushing out a gallon of water a minute. Those are some of the things that are happening weekly and within a year or two we can now replace these worn out systems," Jayne said.
"Unfortunately these systems are old and have well surpassed their life expectancy. By addressing these needed improvements we can prevent these things from happening into the next 20-30 years. It's going to be a lot of work, but very gratifying to see the progress being make throughout the next 2-3 years. We will be keeping the community updated on our progress and have open houses to show what's been accomplished," Jayne said.
He also expressed his thanks to the bond committee, administration, staff and school board for their work in making phone calls, canvassing voters in the area and getting the word out about the bond proposal noting that it was a "team effort" for everyone involved.
"When I came here as superintendent it wasn't that the school board didn't have a plan for improvements – they had a three page document listing the needs. But with the loss of enrollment and state money, we needed the public's help to make this happen. We are so thankful for their support," he said.
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Pork Chops and Rice
- 4 tablespoons butter
- 1 cup long grain white rice
- 4 pork chops, bone in
- Salt
- One 10-ounce can beef broth, plus more if needed
- 4 onion slices, separated into rings
- 1/4 teaspoon pepper
DirectionsWatch how to make this recipe.
Preheat the oven to 350 degrees F.
In a medium skillet, melt the butter over medium-low heat. Add the rice and saute until it is light brown, about 5 minutes.
Spread the rice in a 9- by 13- by 2-inch casserole. Sprinkle the pork chops with salt and arrange them on top of the rice. Pour the broth and 2/3 cup water over the chops. Spread the onion rings over the chops and sprinkle them with the pepper. Cover the dish with aluminum foil and bake until the pork chops are tender, about 45 minutes.
Change the oven to broil, add a bit more broth if the rice is dry and return the dish to the oven for a couple of minutes until the pork is browned.
Recipe adapted from Georgia Cooking in an Oklahoma Kitchen with Trisha Yearwood (c) Clarkson Potter 2008
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Yukon 4 × 50 Night Vision Monocular
About this itemThe Yukon NVMT 4x50 night vision monocular is one of the most popular monoculars in the Yukon line. It has high 4X magnification, a good size 50mm objective lens, and possesses a level of versatility that most monoculars cannot match.
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More:Paris Summit for the Support to the Libyan People -- Communique
Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton traveled to Paris on March 19, 2011 for a meeting with our European allies and Arab partners about the enforcement of UN Security Council Resolution 1973 on Libya. During a press availability in Paris, Secretary Clinton addressed the passing of former Secretary of State Warren Christopher, the situation in Bahrain, and next steps in regards to Libya. The Secretary said:
"Before we begin, I want to say a few words about Warren Christopher. He was a friend, a mentor, and truly a diplomat's diplomat. He served our country with such great distinction in so many capacities over his long and very productive life. There are a lot of days in this job when I ask myself, 'What would Warren do?' From the Balkans to the Middle East, to China and Vietnam, he helped guide the United States through difficult challenges with tremendous grace and wisdom. My thoughts and prayers are with his family and with his many, many friends and colleagues throughout our country and around the world.
"Now, this has been a quick but productive trip, and I want to give you a brief update and then answer your questions. First, let's remember how we got here. As you know, Americans and people around the world watched with growing concern as Libyan civilians were gunned down by a government that has lost all legitimacy. The people of Libya appealed for help. The Arab League and the Gulf Cooperation Council called for action.
"The international community came together to speak with one voice and to deliver a clear and consistent message: Colonel Qadhafi's campaign of violence against his own people must stop. The strong votes in the United Nations Security Council underscored this unity. And now the Qadhafi forces face unambiguous terms: a ceasefire must be implemented immediately -- that means all attacks against civilians must stop; troops must stop advancing on Benghazi and pull back from Adjabiya, Misrata, and Zawiya; water, electricity, and gas supplies must be turned on to all areas; humanitarian assistance must be allowed to reach the people of Libya.
"Yesterday, President Obama said very clearly that if Qadhafi failed to comply with these terms, there would be consequences. Since the President spoke, there has been some talk from Tripoli of a ceasefire, but the reality on the ground tells a very different story. Colonel Qadhafi continues to defy the world. His attacks on civilians go on. Today, we have been monitoring the troubling reports of fighting around and within Benghazi itself. As President Obama also said, we have every reason to fear that, left unchecked, Qadhafi will commit unspeakable atrocities.
"It is against that backdrop that nations from across the region and the world met today here in Paris to discuss the ways we can, working together, implement Resolution 1973. We all recognize that further delay will only put more civilians at risk. So let me be very clear about the position of the United States: We will support an international coalition as it takes all necessary measures to enforce the terms of Resolution 1973.
"As you may know, French planes are already in the skies above Benghazi. Now, America has unique capabilities and we will bring them to bear to help our European and Canadian allies and Arab partners stop further violence against civilians, including through the effective implementation of a no-fly zone. As President Obama said, the United States will not deploy ground troops, but there should be no mistaking our commitment to this effort.
"Today, I was able to discuss next steps with the full group and also conduct smaller focused conversations with many of my colleagues. I met first with President Sarkozy and Prime Minister Cameron. Both France and the United Kingdom, along with other key partners, have stepped forward to play a leading role in enforcing 1973. We reviewed the latest reports from the ground and discussed how we can work together most effectively in the hours and days ahead, and how we would work very cooperatively with our other partners, including Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Germany, Greece, Italy, Lithuania, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Spain, Turkey, as well as others that are not in that long list.
"I also had the opportunity to engage today with my Arab counterparts, including Foreign Minister Zebari of Iraq representing the presidency of the Arab Summit, Secretary General Amr Moussa of the Arab League, Prime Minister Hamid bin Jasim of Qatar, Sheikh Abdallah bin Zayid of the UAE, Foreign Minister Fassi Fihri of Morocco, and Foreign Minister Judeh of Jordan.
"We have said from the start that Arab leadership and participation in this effort is crucial, and the Arab League showed that with its pivotal statements on Libya what really that meant. It changed the diplomatic landscape. They have sent another strong message by being here today, and we look to them for continued leadership as well as active participation and partnership going forward.
"With Sheikh Abdallah and Prime Minister Hamid bin Jasim, I reiterated our strong and enduring partnership. The United States has an abiding commitment to Gulf security and a top priority is working together with our partners on our shared concerns about Iranian behavior in the region. We share the view that Iran's activities in the Gulf, including its efforts to advance its agenda in neighboring countries, undermines peace and stability. Our Gulf partners are critical to the international community's efforts on Libya, and we thank them for their leadership.
"We also had a constructive discussion on Bahrain. We have a decades-long friendship with Bahrain that we expect to continue long into the future. Our goal is a credible political process that can address the legitimate aspirations of all the people of Bahrain, starting with the Crown Prince's dialogue, which all parties should join.
"Of course, that process should unfold in a peaceful, positive atmosphere that protects the freedom of peaceful assembly while ensuring that students can go to school, businesses can operate, and people can undertake their normal daily activities.
"My GCC counterparts said they share the same goals in Bahrain. Now, Bahrain obviously has the sovereign right to invite GCC forces into its territory under its defense and security agreements. The GCC has also announced a major aid package for economic and social development in Bahrain. We have made clear that security alone cannot resolve the challenges facing Bahrain. As I said earlier this week, violence is not and cannot be the answer. A political process is. We have raised our concerns about the current measures directly with Bahraini officials and will continue to do so.
"With all of these partners, we have discussed the urgent humanitarian needs arising from the crisis in Libya. I thanked the Arab leaders for their generous contributions to aid refugees fleeing Qadhafi's violence, and we agreed that this will be a critical concern in the days ahead. Egypt and Tunisia, in particular, will need all of our support. The United States has made significant pledges of assistance, and we look to all our allies and partners to join us in this work.
"Now, this is a fluid and fast-moving situation, which may be the understatement of the time. And I know that there are lots of questions that people have about what next and what will we be doing. So let me just underscore the key point: This is a broad international effort; the world will not sit idly by while more innocent civilians are killed. The United States will support our allies and partners as they move to enforce Resolution 1973. We are standing with the people of Libya and we will not waver in our efforts to protect them."
You can read the full transcript here.
Boyke L. in Indonesia writes:
Hi madame Hillary Clinton,I'm you're fans from jakarta Indonesia..it's a nice to know you and have a mother like you..as a ex first lady...you are the stronger women and such a great power to the world...I like to chatt with you might be one day..but I'm not a perfect persons ass I know & I realized of that ..many thankss for you and may God' Jesus Bllesing you and Mr. Clinton and Chelsea Clinton too...
Best regards,
Boyke L.
Ravnogorac in Serbia writes:
All this with Libya is a major crime AMERICA !!!!! Aggression, to be kidnapped Libyan oil - and that is the whole philosophy. What protection of civilians, any freedom, the struggle for a democracy there - ALWAYS THE SAME LIES THE WEST!! Bear up LIBYA!! Do not give up Gaddafi !!!!!!! SERBIA IS TO LIBYA !!!!!!! TO VICTORY !!!!!
Eric in New Mexico writes:
News Item;
"At Qaddafi Compound, a Human Shield"
By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK
NY Times
Published: March 19, 2011
I'm not going to bore the readers with the details, as folks can read the article for themselves and reach their own conclusions.
More interesting anyway to talk about how to deal with this particular development in a way that thwarts the intent of those creating it.
First I would kluge a few resources together and isolate the compound, and call in every concert sound production company I could find ready to move out and bring their gear, to set up and "Rock the Casbah", suppressing any and all hostility that may be directed at the perimeter.
Then pump in at max concert volume, Jimi Hendrix's " Machine gun " and "Star Spangled Banner"( woodstock vers.) 24-7, over and over and over again.
Lack of sleep alone will have them puddled down to surrender mode.
It just requires some patience.
Don't forget to give the friendlies sonic ear valves like pro musician's wear on stage, you don't want to make them deaf standing post on watch there.
(*) Music selection by author subject to the whims of the international coalition, assuming there's consensus on the notion that this proceedure may bring the least violent results.
If they martyr themselves, then the irreconcilables will have reconciled themselves.
I doubt if anyone could change the choice, but we can do a good job of giving them a choice in the matter between existance and non existance.
Farid P. in Indonesia writes:
I think there is something wrong with Qadhafi's Mind, maybe he get brain tumor / cancer or something like that :)
Farid P.
W.W. writes:
Libya turned into testing ground for new US, UK weaponryâ€
London, March 20, IRNA – A British political analyst says Libya has turned into a "testing ground for the new American and British weaponry†including the Typhoon and Tornado jets.
Peter Eyre, a retired army soldier, also told IRNA that the UN Security Council resolution on Libya, which was sponsored mainly by Britain, "has given the British military a free hand†in murdering the Libyan people.
"I am appalled that any country could allow such action to take place.... Libya is now a testing ground for the new European Typhoon aircraft,†he said, referring to the deployment of British Tornado and Typhoon jets over the Libyan airspace.
British jets and a submarine have fired missiles at Libya. Royal Air Force Tornados flew 3,000 miles from RAF Marham, in Norfolk , and back to carry out their bombing mission.
Also, a British Trafalgar Class submarine and US submarines fired a total of more than 110 Tomahawk missiles at Libyan targets.
The UN Resolution 1973, passed last Thursday, authorises action to "protect†Libyan civilians from Muammar Gaddafi.
The resolution decides to "establish a ban on all flights in the airspace of the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya in order to help protect civiliansâ€, exempting humanitarian flights, and authorises member states and Arab League nations "acting nationally or through regional organisations or arrangements, to take all necessary measures to enforce compliance with the ban on flightsâ€.
Eyre said the resolution gave power to invading forces to turn Libya to a testing ground for depleted uranium weaponry and also fourth generation dirty weapons manufactured in the US and EUâ€.
Eyre said Western countries will use whatever means possible to secure their "own long-term politico-economic goals†in Libya.
He explained that there was a "distinct PR exercise by the US, UK and French and the media to butter up the true situation†in Libya before the passage of the resolution.
"The wording of this UN resolution is totally open to interpretation and the additional wording of allowing "all necessary measures required to protect civilians†can truly give the military a free hand†he said, adding that this certainly has not painted a picture of creating a no-fly zone but rather "allowed the US, UK and France to attack any target in any areaâ€.
Eyre said he was shocked to hear one senior politician comment that he hoped our forces would be allowed to attack any target, especially at hitting armoured vehicles and tank.
"This comment alone spreads fear and concern from deep within for the poor people of Libyaâ€.
Islamic Republic News Agency/IRNA NewsCode: 30306611
W.W. writes:
India regrets air strikes against Libya
New Delhi, Mar 20, IRNA – Expressing grave concern at violence in Libya, India on Sunday regretted air strikes against Libya.
"India views with grave concern the continuing violence, strife and deteriorating humanitarian situation in Libya. It regrets the air strikes that are taking place. As stated earlier by India, the measures adopted should mitigate and not exacerbate an already difficult situation for the people of Libya,†said the External Affairs Ministry in a statement issued here on Sunday.
It hopes that this would not lead to greater harm to innocent civilians, foreign nationals and diplomatic missions and their personnel still in Libya, the statement said.
The statement calls upon all parties to abjure use of or the threat of use of force and to resolve their differences through peaceful means and dialogue in which the UN and regional organisations should play their roles.
According to media reports, dozens of people had been killed as the US and European nations pounded Moammar Gaddafi's forces and air defenses with cruise missiles and airstrikes.
Islamic Republic News Agency/IRNA NewsCode: 30306731
Udall in Morocco writes:
The operation against Libya could end up being a good teambuilding operation that improves relations between the Arabs and the West.
Eric in New Mexico writes:
News Item;
Col Gaddafi's son Saif al-Islam called Saturday's attack a "big mistake".
"Believe me, one day you will wake up and you will find out that you were supporting the wrong people and you had made a big mistake in supporting those people," he told Christiane Amanpour for ABC This Week. "It's like the WMD [weapons of mass destruction] in Iraq. It's another story."
The only mistake anyone has made is in not removing Ghaddafi and sons from their soap box long before this.
Inevitably bullies cry victim when called out to the woodshed.
Thus marks a new low in the archives of mental illness reported here to be alive and well on the world stage and existing in denial.
That boy needs a rubber room and it looks like he's about to get bounced off the wall in one.
Well, talkin' monkeys never cease to amaze me.
Daddy raised a parrot.
W.W. writes:
US mind its own contradictory policies: FM spokesman
Tehran, March 20, IRNA -- Foreign Ministry Spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast while commenting on the recent statements of the US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Sunday that the US government should better mind its own business and think about its contradictory policies.
"US State Department, facing many confusions and contradictions, has engaged in criticizing the diplomacy of independent and role-playing countries like Islamic Republic of Iran because the US itself is caught in a cul-de-sac due to its long-lasting support for the despotic rulers and being an accomplice to their oppressions,†he added.
Mehmanparast went on to say that "we propose US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to do something about the US contradictory policies in both supporting the dictators and at the same time pretending to be defending the rights of nations throughout the world.'
"Hillary Clinton should do something about the rage and hatred of the nations from the US policies,†he added.
US Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton had warned Iran on Saturday "to stop meddling in affairs of Bahrain and other Arab states in the Persian Gulf .â€
Islamic Republic News Agency/IRNA NewsCode: 30306828
Eric in New Mexico writes:
(clarification) As a New Mexican and US citizen my prior post may have seemed to break with tradition in giving ethical infants all the rope they need to hang themselves by, but in saying someone should have kicked the soapbox out from under Ghadaffi and sons long before this, it's like watching a fellow dance at the end of a rope strangling to death on his words. A long drawn out affair...the world need not be witness to.
Well my feeling is that there's no inconsistance in this so let's kick it and be done with them, lest we continue to be unwilling to and fail to be compassionate in creating a little peace and quiet for everyone else.
Please give my best regards to Vladamir Putin, PM of the Russian Federation...
Looks like he went and bought himself a rope.
Fortunately his buddy the President of Russia informed him that might not be a real good idea.
When logic dictates that only crusaders call for holy war.
And Forest Gump was right....
Now Mr. Putin owes the American people a sincere measure of his personal regret for presenting himself as such a complete jackass to us.
Not to mention looking like one of Ghaddafi's cloned parrots via his recent remarks about US/NATO "crusaders" in Lybia, to the entire global community.
Geeze, that's really going to encorage folks to invest in Russia's economy...NOT! Or promote the good feeling in Congress for their support of Russian WTO accention approval? I just shake my head in wonder.
I think Putin's just miffed at the thought of NATO/Russian missile defense cooperation becoming reality.
And targeting his anger in an inappropriate direction.
Doesn't make it any less stupid to do so.
So I hope the Dept of State will convey my best wishes in that PM Putin may "put a sock in it" anytime now. And by all means please tell him for me, "Attitude is everything."


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Women as an identifiable group under attack?
Have not looked further afield in the world, but it would seem so in Canada and the USA at least, from both sides of the political spectrum and indeed appears to be starting now in society at large.
Perhaps this thread can document some of the ongoing actions against women's safety and established human rights that are occuring.
As a stand alone action, this may not have appeared to have been an attack against specifically women, but given the similar one of last evening, in the same city indicates clearly that it was.
In this the lead up to Dec 6th activities, it seems particularily ominous.
Has the the destruction of the Status of Women Ministry indicated to some, that women can be clear targets of oppression and hate again without society caring?
Fire at women's shelter kills resident, 61
OTTAWA — A 61-year-old woman is dead after a fire in a women's shelter in downtown Ottawa Sunday night.
The fire broke out in a second-floor apartment at 515 MacLaren St. at about 10 p.m. Firefighters freed the resident, but she was declared dead at the scene.
J.P. Trottier, spokesman with Ottawa paramedics, said the woman suffered burns to 80 per cent of her body. She died soon after paramedics began to treat her, he said.
The woman's name has not been released.
About 33 firefighters responded to the blaze, which Platoon Chief Dennis Gobey said was confined to the apartment.
Now of course the article says they are trying to confirm, as because they too I am sure understand the implications of 2 blazes in Ottawa targeting women....but words like "molotov cocktail" do not get thrown around without some fire going on.
Indeed later reports on the BC news have stated it is obvious that an accelerant was used.
Fire investigators are trying to confirm that a blaze that gutted an all-female rooming house in Ottawa late Saturday night was deliberately set.
Fire officials said it was lucky no one was injured in the fire that engulfed the ground floor of the 19-room facility. Women ran from the building wearing nothing but pyjamas and bathrobes, some with nothing on their feet.
Investigators sifted through the ground floor to confirm reports that a Molotov cocktail had been thrown into the residence, home to 17 tenants, including many international students at the University of Ottawa and Carleton University.
Remind, I thought exactly what you did when I saw this news report yesterday. It's the second suspicious fire to affect a women's residence within a week. Maybe those "just happen" - but I don't think so:
Women's rooming house struck by suspicious fire
Ottawa police are inspecting the scene of a fire in a downtown rooming house for women after reports that a Molotov cocktail was thrown through the first-floor window around 11:39 p.m. Saturday.
The building is a rooming house for around 20 women. Most of them are new to Canada and looking for short-term accommodations.
This is the second fire to affect a women's residence in a week. Firefighters continue to investigate a fire at Cornerstone women's shelter on MacLaren Street that killed a 61-year-old woman last Sunday.
"SparkyOne" sounds like an odd nickname in the context of these stories...
In the larger political context we have this recent action of Obama's, and the formerly reported here reality of the defunding of women's shelters and programs for victim's of violence, to consider as well...Stalling over birth control
It is bewildering that Barack Obama sacrificed women's rights and health in a vain attempt to woo Republican ideologues.....
You know what I don't want to hear right now about the Stupak-Pitts amendment banning abortion coverage from federally subsidised health insurance policies? That it's the price of reform, and pro-choice women should shut up and take one for the team.
"If you want to rebuild the American welfare state," Peter Beinart writes in the Daily Beast, "there is no alternative" than for Democrats to abandon "cultural" issues like gender and racial equality. Hey, Peter, Representative Stupak and your 64 Democratic supporters, Jim Wallis and other anti-choice "progressive" Christians, men: Why don't you take one for the team for a change and see how you like it?
For example, budget hawks in Congress say they'll vote against the bill because it's too expensive. Maybe you could win them over if you volunteered to cut out funding for male-exclusive stuff, like prostate cancer, Viagra, male infertility, vasectomies, growth-hormone shots for short little boys, long-term care for macho guys who won't wear motorcycle helmets and, I dunno, psychotherapy for pedophile priests. Men could always pay in advance for an insurance policy rider, as women are blithely told they can do if Stupak becomes part of the final bill.
Barak Obama, too, worries about the deficit. Maybe you could help him out by sacrificing your denomination's tax exemption. The Catholic church would be a good place to start, and it wouldn't even be unfair, since the blatant politicking of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops on abortion violates the spirit of the ban on electoral meddling by tax-exempt religious institutions.
Why should anti-choicers be the only people who get to refuse to let their taxes support something they dislike? You don't want your tax dollars to pay, even in the most notional way, for women's abortion care, a legal medical procedure that one in three American women will have in her lifetime? I don't want to pay for your misogynist fairy tales and sour-old-man hierarchies.
Women Democrats have taken an awful lot of hits for the team lately. Many of us didn't vote for Hillary Clinton in the primary because the goal of electing a woman seemed less important than the goal of electing the best possible president. Only a self-hater or a featherhead didn't feel some pain about that. And although women are hardly alone in this, we've seen some pretty big hopes set aside in the first year of the Obama administration.
The Paycheque Fairness Act, which would expand women's protections against sexism in the workplace, is on the back burner. Meanwhile, the Office of Faith-Based and Neighbourhood Partnerships is not only alive and well. It's newly staffed with anti-choicers like Alexia Kelley of Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good, which, as Frances Kissling notes in Salon, has compared abortion to torture.
I know what you're thinking: conservative Democrats like Stupak took Republican districts to win us both houses of Congress. Thanks a lot, Howard Dean, whose bright idea it was to recruit them. But those majorities would not be there, and Obama would not be in the White House, if not for pro-choice women and men - their votes, talent, money, organisational capacity and shoe leather.
We knocked ourselves out, and it wasn't so that religious reactionaries like Stupak - who, as Jeff Sharlet writes in Salon, is a member of the Family, the secretive rightwing Christian-supremacist congressional coven - would control both parties. Elections have consequences, you say? Exactly: Obama, the pro-choice, pro-woman candidate, won. Stupak didn't put him in the White House, and neither did the Catholic bishops or the white anti-feminist welfare staters of Beinart's imagination.
We did. And we deserve better from Obama than sound bites like "this is a healthcare bill, not an abortion bill. " Abortion is healthcare. That's the whole point.
Though the following incidence could at first glance considered to be of a lesser note than the occurances above, but in truth it has very far reaching and strong social commentary on the status of women in society, it clearly indicates women as being less than men.
These young women, as like so many of my daughter's age and younger who erroneously believe that society is now equal, and all things have been achieved...and that nothing could be eroded, have indeed received a huge wake up call through this action by the courts and VANOC/IOC.
One wonders what the final result of this would will be, as opposed to what it should be....
Women skiers who had hoped the B.C. Court of Appeal would breathe life into their dreams to jump in the Vancouver 2010 Winter Olympics were left in tears and rage Friday after the court quickly dismissed a case they had brought against the Vancouver Organizing Committee.
In a one-sentence oral ruling in which they said written reasons would follow next week, Justices Anne Rowles, David Frankel and Harvey Groberman simply said they were dismissing the women's appeal of a lower-court ruling that found while the International Olympic Committee had discriminated against them, VANOC wasn't obligated to hold a competition for them.
At a time when domestic violence facts are shocking -- 1 in 4 women will experience domestic violence in her lifetime, among other distressing statistics put out by the Domestic Violence Resource Center -- and many insurers are excluding domestic violence as a pre-existing condition, understanding domestic violence is crucial. Domestic violence is on the rise
....Initiatives such as Violence UnSilenced -- with its mission to shed light on the epidemic of domestic violence and sexual assault by providing online space for survivors and victims to connect, reach out and help one another as well as guidance for how to get help -- are important efforts to give women a voice, help them feel less alone, and get safe access to help and support.
Maggie, the founder and moderator of the Violence UnSilenced project, offered some insight and perspective in an interview about domestic violence and the awareness month.
Even environmentalists want to get in on the exploit women action that is so acceptable nowadays, it seems.
Bill McKibben wants to have supermodels strip to help broadcast his message to stop global warming. He hopes to offend some folks so they will help spread the word. We'd like to ask Mr. Bill McKibben strip off his clothes on camera next to his intellectual cronies who join him wiggling and giggling as they strip, like the models do. This sort of stunt by a known environmentalist could have just as easily gone viral but Bill McKibben chose to exploit women in his plight to save the earth. Wake up McKibben, you needn't stoop so low. Consider letting him know he should not have to exploit anyone to help save the earth. His email is:
exploit? for 6 years an annual fund raising event called dancers for cancer has donated money to the cause to end breast cancer...the exotic dancers donate their services and the club owners donate the money they would have normaly spent on wages for the dancers. why is it automatically exploitation is a sex industry related activity is taking place in support of a cause...
sex industry workers are socially and environmentally conscious, why would you assume they were being exploited?isn't it possible that they chose to take part and believe in the cause? your statement is like an attack against women, sex working women in that you assume exploitation instead of conceiving the possibilty that sex industry workers are politically aware contributers to society who actively take part in the causes they believe in.
i think this is in conflict with the title of the thread.
Unless I missed something, it seems the first fire, that claimed the life of a 61 year old woman was undetermined-- investigators were brought in because of a death, not because there were immediate suspicions of arson.
Be that as it may, it doesn't make the second fire any less disturbing in my mind.
London's had a bad year for fires. One fire official said on the news what I was thinking: Some buildings were being torched for insurance, due to the bad economy; some are accidental fires set by homeless people trying to stay warm in abandoned buildings; and it's likely that some have been set by a serial arsonist. But telling them apart is difficult, if not impossible.
But a molotov cocktail says something else entirely.
There is an informative diary on Daily Kos today with stats and graph:
Here in Portland, Oregon, area residents have been rocked by a pair of grim tragedies. Last Tuesday, Rob Beiser of suburban Gladstone pulled up to the Tualatin office where his estranged wife Teresa worked and shot her numerous times. After killing her and wounding two of her co-workers, he turned the gun on himself.
Two days later, the bodies of a family of three in Bethany, another suburban-Portland community, were discovered inside their home. It was determined that the husband, Mukesh Suther had shot his wife Varsha and their nine-year-old son, Ronak.
As genuinely shocking as events like this are, there is also a certainly feeling of familiarity when one learns that the perpetrator was the husband, or the boyfriend, or the ex. In my workplace (very near where the first incident took place), before we had any details about who had been shot and who had done the shooting, we were all concerned and horrified. Once we found out that the person responsible was married to one of the shooting victims, our horror was partially replaced with a kind of sad but familiar resignation, as though it was something we probably should have guessed.
Even as I noticed this, however, I wondered - Is that feeling of "oh, no, not again" really justified? Are we perhaps perpetuating an unfair stereotype when we think in such terms? I mean, I know it seems like I hear about men killing their wives, girlfriends, and ex-wives far more often than the other way around, but is that perhaps media spin distorting reality, as with the obsession with the "missing white woman" to the exclusion of coverage other equally or more urgent cases involving women of color? Is the prominent coverage of men killing their female partners really an accurate presentation of reality?
So I did a little research and found that it indeed is accurate. Very definitely, and quite sadly, accurate.
...the exotic dancers donate their services and the club owners donate the money they would have normaly spent on wages for the dancers.
So, basically, it's the exotic dancers making the contribution to charity. All the (presumably male) club owners are doing is getting free publicity. Sounds exploitative to me.
2 points in another thread indicate that this action by the Canadian government should be in this thread too.
This registry is a step in the right direction of helping our police cope with domestic violence. One out of three women killed by their partners is killed with a long-gun. (Stats Canada) For a woman experiencing any form of domestic abuse, a gun in the home is an unspoken threat, a potential risk to her safety.
We need to keep this registry, we need to keep tools in the hands of our police so that more women are not killed. As we come upon the 20th anniversary of the Montreal Massacre, we reflect upon what that taught us, what preventative lessons we could learn. This registry was one of those lessons, one of the steps taken to protect women. Between 1991 and 2006, the use of shotguns and rifles in homicides declined by 65% because of stricter controls (Statistics Canada 2008).
This registry isn't about farmers and red tape, it's about women's safety
I remember going down to the University of Toronto in December 1989 and standing silently, in shock, with a large group of women, many current U of T students, thinking of these women who laid down their lives just because they wanted an education.
And now, on the 20th anniversary, the government wants to celebrate by revoking the very law that was brought in on account of these women, a law that helps keep women safe.
Thanks remind :)
Some stats from the Sisterhood is Global institute (they're at http://www.sigi.org/):
Women and Violence
• Everyday, 6000 girls are genitally mutilated - more than 200 000 per year
• Every year in India, 5000 brides are murdered or commit suicide because
their marriage dowries are considered inadequate. (2000)
• In the US, one in five women will be victims of rape in their lifetime. A
woman is raped every 3 minutes. 55 percent of American women report
having experienced rape and/or physical assault in their life-time. 10
women are killed by their batterers each day (1998).
• In Russia, half of all murder victims are women killed by their male
partners. (1995)
• Israel, Japan, Trinidad & Tobago, Brazil, Pakistan, Peru, Argentina, Costa
Rica, Malaysia, Bangladesh, Ecuador and Tunisia each have less than 10
shelters for battered women (1995).
dancers for cancers is organized by DANCERS not club owners......it's in a different club every time....the women are the organizers...oh right ...they couldn't possibly organize somethig and donate money of their own free will. you people have to make everything we do exploitative....it is a worker created event. clear now?
dancers for cancers is organized by DANCERS not club owners......it's in a different club every time....the women are the organizers...oh right ...they couldn't possibly organize somethig and donate money of their own free will. you people have to make everything we do exploitative....it is a worker created event. clear now?
Here's what you said, Susan:
...the exotic dancers donate their services and the club owners donate the money they would have normaly spent on wages for the dancers.
It was the "and the club owners donate the money" bit that caught my eye.
Clear now?


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SONIA BOMBS THE DANCE FLOOR… Even in remixed form, it's not often that you hear a folk song on the dance floor. And it's almost as rare to hear a politically charged song there. But with any luck, you'll soon hear both at once. Baltimore-based lesbian folk singer SONiA has just released remixes of her song "No Bomb Is Smart," a song originally drawn from her third solo record, the same-titled 2004 album that garnered SONiA her first Grammy nomination. The original was a rocking folk gem, with angry beats, mournful strings and SONiA's sunny and sweet voice singing pointed antiwar lyrics. Most obviously, about how oxymoronic it is to call any bomb a smart bomb. Now SONiA has commissioned remixes in an attempt to drum up new attention on the occasion of the third anniversary of the Iraq War's start. It's her first foray into the realm of dance music. "If people can dance together," she says in a press release, "we can live together."
Althen and SONiA
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Available for purchase at her band Disappear Fear's Web site (www.disappearfear.com), all remixes feature rapid-fire military-esque beats, which suit the dance floor and, in a warped way, the song. But the up-and-coming local musician Blake Althen provides the primo remix here, besting the better-known New York-based Twisted Dee. Dee's Tribal Mix is appealing and entirely smart, with its bombs and siren sounds that she keeps from turning into all out war on the listener's ears and nerves. The remix isn't especially captivating, however. You could say it doesn't quite detonate as expected, or with the same force as Althen's Anthem Mix. His version, like the original, is both sweet and moody, and it marches to a bubbling beat. Althen keeps things light, with the focus squarely on SONiA's lyrics….
THE DOLLS' LATEST MEOW… It's not enough that they were ubiquitous on the dance floor last summer with first hit "Don't Cha," or that they may soon be ubiquitous again, with "Beep" or another single from the group's platinum debut album. And shouldn't it be enough that the Pussycat Dolls have sold more than 1 million copies of PCD?
Apparently not. So we can soon expect to see the Dolls in a whole new medium: television. You didn't see that coming, did you? Actually, the Dolls have already been there before, having appeared and performed on "Dancing with the Stars," among other shows. But now the Burlesque-style dancing troupe wants its own show, and an unscripted series is currently being shopped around Hollywood, Billboard reports. It's just a matter of time….
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FROM GARBAGE COMES SHIRLEY MANSON… Last fall Garbage requested its fans not throw the group into the pop trash heap just yet. A post to its Web site said that its members merely wanted a second hiatus. While the band's status as a band hasn't changed, its lead singer isn't gonna just sit around and wait. Shirley Manson has begun work on her first solo set. Billboard didn't uncover many details, so it's not clear if Manson will stick to the uptempo rock sound that defined Garbage at its best and gave it several dance hits, including last year's "Bleed Like Me." Manson told the magazine that she's not working from any timetable in producing her own music. So there's no way to know when or if we might hear from her again….
A NORWEGIAN NIGHT OUT… The Norwegian electronica duo Royksopp has been one of those best-kept-secret type of groups, at least stateside. Only hardcore danceheads have even heard of the group, and an even smaller circle actually knows the band's music, which you might describe as disco-pop with an edge. But Torbjørn Brundtland and Svein Berge are so well-regarded among those in the dance music industry, and especially its European branch, that the genre's best remixers clamor to recreate its singles. So you find Jacques Lu Cont, Trentemoller and Vitalic providing remixes for current single "What Else Is There?" And though you expect Lu Cont to do the best work based on his nearly flawless and prodigious track record, actually it's the increasingly prominent Trentemoller who blows away the competition. The German producer provides a minimal but incredibly fierce bouncing remix of the track that responds to the song's lyrics. For example, he creates an explosive beat after guest vocalist Karin Dreijer sings the word "explosion" in her tremulous voice.
Royksopp also apparently has enough of a following to justify the duo's latest release, Royksopp's Night Out, which is a rarity in itself: a live recording from a dance act. Yes, Royksopp sounds nearly as great live as they do in the studio, and no, it's not because they simply pressed play and danced around as their synthesizers did all the work. Instead, this EP finds the duo improvising and adding creative touches not heard on its two studio albums. Recorded live near the duo's hometown, the nine-track Royksopp's Night Out features versions of all of its previous singles as well as a cover of Queen of The Stone Age's "Go with the Flow"….
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DANCE AWARDS GO DEEP… Previous Grammy winner Deep Dish failed to grab a Grammy this year, but the International Dance Music Awards is the D.C. duo's to lose. Ali Shirazinia and Sharam Tayebi racked up the most nominations — seven — at dance music's most prestigious awards ceremony, to be held a week from Sunday during dance music's biggest annual event, Miami's Winter Music Conference. Other artists with multiple nominations at the 21st annual IDMAs for their work in 2005 include Paul Van Dyk, Above & Beyond, Gabriel & Dresden and the Pussycat Dolls.
Deep Dish's recognition signifies the duo's influence at all levels of the genre, as a DJ act, remixer, producer and label owner. The song "Say Hello" featuring Anousheh Khalili on vocals was nominated three times. The only category for which Deep Dish should have been eligible but was not nominated is as Best Dance Artist Group — and that's the only category in which you'll find the group that stole this year's dance Grammys, the Chemical Brothers. And the Brothers won this IDMA category just last year, so that's another reason to hope Depeche Mode will best them, or failing that, The Killers. You can aid in the cause, if you hurry — voting in the IDMA's 38 categories is open until this Friday, March 17 at www.wmcstore.com/idma/ballot.asp….
GET JUNKIFIED… He was mostly quiet last year, so understandably Tom Holkenborg, the California-based Dutch dance music producer known as Junkie XL, was not nominated for the IDMAs. Better luck next time: Junkie XL will release his fourth studio album, Today, on April 18. Today will feature just one vocalist, newcomer Nathan Mader, and is said to be focused on the rock-tinged progressive house sound for which Junkie XL is known. A press release says the new album often recalls the "melodic beauty of New Order, while sometimes throbbing and pulsing like a house record." Sounds promising — or you might even say, XL-ent….
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PON DE RIHANNA… Another multi-nominated artist at this year's IDMAs is newcomer Rihanna. The Barbados native's infectious dancehall reggae-styled hit "Pon de Replay" was nominated in three categories. She was also nominated as Best New Dance Artist Solo. If she doesn't win, no worry, she'll assuredly be back next year. Less than a year after she burst onto the scene, a sophomore album is already ready. A Girl Like Me will be released late next month, preceded by first single "S.O.S. (Rescue Me)," which heavily samples Soft Cell's gay anthem "Tainted Love." The end result is a song that works better than you fear, but not as well as it could. It sounds like it took all of 10 minutes to create. It's also not at all dancehall. Rihanna is obviously trying to show versatility in the uptempo genre, though so far she comes across as Beyonce Lite: tastes great, less filling….
FREEMASONS, A SECRET NO MORE… Last year saw the popular emergence of yet another dance music production duo. But Russell Small and James Wiltshire as the Freemasons are quickly becoming the go-to duo in the industry to remix R&B divas — where have you gone, Hex Hector? And with good reason: the duo is part of a mostly European-based contingent of dance music producers successfully reviving the happy, ecstatic sounds of R&B-based disco, often through the use of disco-era samples. It's not clear if Small and Wiltshire are actually members of the secret society from which they derive their remixing handle, and it could be just a matter of time before that fraternal order legally threatens them to change their name.
But for now, the Freemasons are using the name to make a name for themselves. Nominated three times at the IDMAs, the duo recently topped the Club Play Chart with a remix of Heather Headley's "In My Mind," and they generated some club heat with a remix of "I Wasn't Kidding" by Angie Stone. A new song from the duo called "Watchin"' has just been released, a follow-up to the duo's hit last year, the IDMA-nominated "Love On My Mind." Both songs feature vocalist Amanda Wilson, and both are neo-disco songs built on deft use of old samples. On "Watchin"' Wilson sings the main vocal line from Deborah Cox's discofied 1999 hit "It's Over Now," while the Freemasons add syrupy see-sawing strings and a punchy piano riff to create a cute but not very compelling track. The superior and more complex "Love On My Mind" sampled the music from a disco hit ("This Time Baby" by Jackie Moore) and created lyrics using a line from that same song combined with a line from a recent Tina Turner song ("When The Heartache Is Over").
Still, you're probably most familiar with these Brits because of their remix work for Faith Evans. On "Mesmerized," Evans repeatedly sings, "My heart is on fire since you put that thing on me…that thang, ba-bay." The Freemasons' chart-topping remix work here, with a jazzy piano sample and a quickly climbing synth line, is every bit as deliriously giddy and on fire as Evans. If the duo wins the Best Remix IDMA for which it's nominated, this will be the reason why….
"PRECIOUS" PAIN, "SUFFER WELL"… Depeche Mode is preparing to release the third single from last year's Playing the Angel. Yes, the third single. Maybe you, your favorite DJ and various music-playing stations are still savoring the savory first single "Precious." But while you weren't listening, "A Pain That I'm Used To" came and went. It made a bit of a dent on the Billboard Club Play Chart, thanks to a smoking remix from Stuart Price (recording as Jacques Lu Cont), but didn't reach the pinnacle that "Precious" did before it, that time largely on account of Victor Calderone and Mac Quayle's bright and bouncy remix. Listening to both remixes, you'll find that, unlike the originals, neither bothers to change the progression from verse to chorus. They sound almost exactly the same, and you only know you're at the chorus because Dave Gahan crams more words into the measure. It makes you appreciate diversity in song structure, and it makes you wish Price and Calderone — in this instance, anyway — appreciated it too.
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The band's forthcoming single "Suffer Well" is also the first release of a Mode song written by Gahan instead of chief songwriter Martin Gore. You wouldn't know it, though; Gahan does a fine job of recalling the Gore of yore. The song's foreboding synths and pleasurably painful lyrics recall the classics from Music for the Masses, especially "Strange Love." So enlisting Canadian producer Tiga to remix the song is promising, since Tiga has a penchant for dark '80s-styled electro music. Let's just hope he differentiates between verse and chorus.
Given that it's only had marginal and intermittent success in the U.S. recently, Depeche Mode is doing its best to live up to its newest single's lyrics. "Just hang on, suffer well/Sometimes it's hard, it's hard to tell." To help them achieve more, the band is continuing to tour, making a second stop in our area May 21 at Nissan Pavilion. The band is also preparing a live DVD for release in September.
And late next month the band will remaster and reissue several previous studio albums, recording them in 5.1 surround sound and including extra tracks and remixes on new DVD versions. Among these: "Just Can't Get Enough (schizo mix)" on Speak and Spell; and "Never Let Me Down Again" (Aggro Mix)" and "Pleasure, Little Treasure (Glitter Mix)" on Music for the Masses….
SYNTH-POP CATFIGHT… They presumably won't play any Depeche Mode, but if you're a fan of that band then you'll be interested to hit the Black Cat this Saturday, March 11, for the equivalent of a British synth-pop catfight. "FYM Productions presents: New Order vs. Duran Duran Dance Party and Cage Match." If so inspired (and braced for rejection), one could at least request DJ Dan's 4 A.M. Mix of "Precious," since among other treats he incorporates New Order's "Blue Monday" beats at the remix's bridge. Doors open at 9:30. $9. See www.blackcatdc.com….
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HOT "TALK" ABOUT COLDPLAY… Like Depeche Mode, Coldplay is gearing up to release its next single from its last album, X&Y. But you'll have to read about "The Hardest Part" some other time, because right now its third single, "Talk," is, well, still all the talk in dance circles. And really, talk about Coldplay hasn't happened in dance circles since the band's American breakout track, "Clocks," three years ago. That song only reached No. 31 on the Club Play Chart, and remixes of it were hard to come by. Not so with "Talk," which is No. 3 on the same chart. And all-star remixes are just one-click away at iTunes.
Several reviews from iTunes customers have bemoaned that it's another case of a "rock song ruined by techno." The comments are wrong on all counts. You might even say, to pharaphrase Coldplay, they're spoken in a language right doesn't speak. In the first place, "Talk" is a rock song that only exists because of techno: its catchy melody and signature riff come from "Computer Love," an early track from Kraftwerk. Coldplay obviously commissioned remixes of "Talk" as a way of honoring those German techno pioneers. And Junkie XL, Francois K and Stuart Price — here recording as Thin White Duke, his moniker for honoring David Bowie — all show they were worthy of being tapped for the honor, turning out amazing remixes as good as the original.
But once again, it's Price who does the best work. His driving and building dance-rock remix progresses in his own dazzling and thoroughly characteristic fashion, yet he doesn't lose sight of either Coldplay or Kraftwerk. In homage to the latter, he incorporates computerized blips and bleeps, as well as a computerized voice that chants "Talk to Me" and spells out the name of the game. "R-E-M-I-X"….
DANCE MUSIC'S LEADING "LIGHT"… She's been a leading lady in dance music almost without let-up since busting onto the scene 12 years ago. But 2006 could be Kristine W's biggest year yet. A fourth solo album is tentatively set for release in the fall, and she's also joined an all-star dance band that is currently recording new music and beginning to tour. (See below.) Sadly, it hasn't been a perfect year: the fourth hit single from the multi-talented singer-songwriter's lively 2003 release Fly Again just missed the top spot on the Billboard Club Play Chart.
Part of the problem: "I'll Be Your Light" began getting notice as a single nearly a year ago. It just doesn't sound hot and fresh anymore. Even a hot and fresh song, though, would have a tough time against chart heavyweights like Beyonce and Mary J. Blige, both of whom just leapt passed Kristine to take the top spots, with "Check On It" and "Be Without You" respectively. Not to mention Madonna, whose "Sorry" is about to knock out all three.
Kristine W
What's disappointing about "I'll Be Your Light" peaking at No. 2 — which would normally be considered an achievement — is that it mars what was a flawless record. Prior to this, every one of Kristine W's singles since 1994's "Feel What You Want," her first, reached the top. That makes for an impressive nine No. 1's.
Also making this No. 2 peak a bit heartbreaking is the personal nature of the song. While every song on Fly Again was inspired by Kristine W's successful battle with acute myeloid leukemia, "I'll Be Your Light" seems the most personal. The personal nature is reflected in the song's video, which includes actual home video footage of her 6-year-old daughter, fictionally depicting a gradual recovery from leukemia as her mother plays the part of a guardian angel, helping her to get better. It's slightly campy. And extremely touching….
A BAND OF DJS… In addition to her solo feats, Kristine W is involved in a relatively new concept in dance music: a band made up of DJs. DJs Are Alive was the brainchild of Jesse Houk, best known as dance remixer/producer and artist The Scumfrog. Houk thinks one way to revive a waning genre that has become increasingly marginal and fragmented in the past few years is to assemble an all-star collective of multi-talented dance artists that will tour as a live band and focus on having fun. As part of the collective, the Scumfrog and a famous crew of DJs — DJ Skribble, D:Fuse and Static Revenger — will sing and play on guitars, keyboards and drums in addition to spinning behind the decks, improvising as they go. And Kristine W will play saxophone and sing as part of the band. The band had its debut public performance recently in New York, and more concerts are currently being planned, as is original music. For now, you can hear a new song and see footage from a December rehearsal at www.djsarealive.com….
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DANCE GRAMMYS… A decade ago, with "Body Rockin' Beats," the Chemical Brothers earned its first Grammy, for Best Rock Instrumental Performance. The British duo just picked up two more Grammys, and in the process nearly swept the dance field. Yes, the dance field. This rock band took home the trophies for Best Dance Recording ("Galvanize") and Best Electronic/Dance Album (Push the Button). While not as worthy a dance song as fellow contender Deep Dish's "Say Hello," "Galvanize" is appealing enough. But Push the Button as best dance album? Admittedly the competition was light, with also-rans Fatboy Slim, Kraftwerk and Daft Punk all working to overshadow LCD Soundsystem's self-titled debut, the one truly cutting-edge album that deserved the nod. Honoring Push the Button betrayed the reality that the Grammys can't help but be little more than a popularity contest.
Meanwhile, Louie Vega won the only other dance award, for Best Remixed Recording. While Jacques Lu Cont's remix of The Killers' "Mr. Brightside" was better than Vega's remix of Curtis Mayfield's "Superfly," the honor was the Grammys' way of giving overdue recognition to house music legend Vega. And if the Grammy had gone to Lu Cont it would have been two years in a row, making this newcomer the first to earn two remixer Grammys. That probably wouldn't have sat well — and might have hurt Lu Cont's chances next year, when he will surely be nominated again if not for remixing, then for his production work on Madonna's latest set, for which he used birth name Stuart Price…
DANCE WAMMIES… Last week the local version of the Grammys — the Wammies — were awarded by the Washington Area Music Association. Lesbian Bev Stanton took home two of the four Electronica categories. She beat Rob Harris, Yiannis and Scott Henry to take the DJ WAMMY, and bested Deep Dish and Thievery Corporation to take the Artist/Producer WAMMY for her work recording as Arthur Loves Plastic. It was a bad night for Deep Dish all around, with the duo also losing the Recording WAMMY to Thievery Corporation for The Cosmic Game. And Deep Dish's guest vocalist Anousheh Khalili lost the Vocalist WAMMY to another name very familiar in DC's gay community: Rachel Panay….


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Today, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton visited Manila to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the U.S.-Philippines Mutual Defense Treaty. The Secretary's trip to the Philippines underscores the Administration's ongoing broader efforts to reaffirm and broaden our alliances. Speaking aboard the USS Fitzgerald in Manila Bay, Secretary Clinton said:
"...As each of us can attest, our mutual defense treaty has provided for our common defense and helped to create cooperation between our countries, not only military cooperation but also political and economic, and not only between governments but most importantly between our people. That summer day in 1951 when this treaty was signed, our nations faced a very different world. Then we were united against the spread of communism. Filipino and American soldiers had fought side by side in World War II not long before, and this treaty was a testament that we stood united against the challenges of a dangerous world. Our hope was that we could pursue the peace together. And that common devotion to peace has sustained our alliance through the years.
"Well, today we meet in a new era where we face new challenges but also where we confront new opportunities. So we must ensure that this alliance remains strong, capable of delivering results for the people of the Philippines, the United States, and our neighbors throughout the Asia Pacific. We are now updating our alliance and all of our alliances in the region with three guidelines in mind. First, we are working to ensure that the core objectives of our alliances have the political support of our people. Second, we want our alliances to be nimble, adaptive, flexible so they can continue to deliver results in this new world. And third, we are making sure that our collective defense capabilities and communications infrastructure are operationally and materially capable of deterring provocation from the full spectrum of state and non-state actors."
While in the Philippines, Secretary Clinton also attended a luncheon hosted by President Benigno Aquino and met with Foreign Secretary Albert Del Rosario. President Aquino conferred upon Secretary Clinton the Order of Lakandula for "deepening and broadening the engagement between United States and the Philippines."
Secretary Clinton and Philippine officials also participated in a signing ceremony to launch the implementation phase of the Partnership for Growth (PFG) with the Philippines. The five-year program is a signature inter-agency effort of President Barack Obama's Presidential Policy Directive on Global Development, which elevates economic growth in countries committed to good governance as a core priority for U.S development efforts. The PFG aligns with policy reform areas outlined by President Benigno S. Aquino III in the Philippine Development Plan. Secretary Clinton and Secretary del Rosario signed a Statement of Principles that reflects our governments' mutual goal to place the Philippines on a path to sustained, more inclusive economic growth, and elevate it to the ranks of high-performing emerging economies.
In addition to meetings with Philippine officials, Secretary Clinton held a social media townterview, during which she discussed a broad range of foreign policy topics with Philippine scholars.
In remarks to the press during her visit, Secretary Clinton said, "...On behalf of the American people and President Obama, I bring greetings and well wishes. For 60 years now, the alliance between the Philippines and the United States has helped keep our nations secure. And thanks to that security, both nations have made progress on many fronts. We have strengthened our democracies, developed our economies, and certainly built strong ties among our peoples. We have also helped provide stability and security throughout the Asia Pacific. And so we do have a lot to be grateful for and proud of during this anniversary year. But it's not about looking toward the past. This is about how we face the future together. And we know that we can count on the alliance to continue to keep us safe and growing stronger."


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Today's tea is 2003 Xiaguan WDJG Hong Yin Tea Cake
I have a sample and I'm enjoying it, with about 3g in this new teapot:
http://www.sampletea.com/product/1990s- ... o-mei-zhen
It's 30ml, but it pours really quickly making it much easier to brew.
The price made me wince, but now I don't regret it. I think I'll sell a few pots and get a 2nd one of these.
I should say more about the tea...
This tea tastes older than I thought it would. The greenness of youth has transformed into what I'm fairly certain most would call "camphor" a lightly woody fragrant taste like the smell of nice old furniture (not dusty, though)
This tea is very clean, not musty or "old paper" smells.
It's only from 2003 but it tastes like some teas I've had from the mid 90s. --- but cleaner. I think It's great.


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Norma,I labor under no pretenses that the PJ pizzas, clone or otherwise, are the end all or be all. My original reason for trying to reverse engineer and clone the PJ original dough was because the PJ pizzas scored well in customer satisfaction surveys and I had sufficient information in order to conduct my experiments. I was also able to purchase real PJ pizzas. I would never had proceeded with the project if I had not asked for and received the ingredients list from PJ at the time. The Nutrition Facts for the PJ pizzas existed then but they would have been inadequate without more. Also, back then, I knew considerably less about Nutrition Facts and how best to analyze and use them. As for posting my clone formulation, I would rather not see that happen. I don't want to have to look out of my windows for men in black suits wearing sunglasses and hiding in the bushes and talking into their lapels, or someone hacking my email accounts, or cross-examining Craig and other members because I attended Craig's Summits. Also, I would prefer not to have to hire food tasters to sample my meals before consuming them. Peter
One of the interesting comments at the PJ Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/papajohns) is that the dough balls used at the PJ stores are "practically frozen" when they are unloaded from the trailer.
Here is an article that came out yesterday talking about how closed-lipped PJ's is with respect to their ingredients which does seem rather strange given their "Better ingredients, better pizza" marketing.One employee they talked to noted that the dough was frozen. http://health.usnews.com/health-news/blogs/eat-run/2013/08/13/what-papa-johns-doesnt-want-you-to-know-about-their-food
From that article....By not disclosing what's in its food, Papa John's is revealing that it doesn't think too much of its customers. It is either asking customers for blind trust or assuming people are too stupid and complacent to ask questions. When we do ask questions, they refuse to answer. At least that was my experience, both when I approached Papa John's as a journalist and a customer. This strikes me as a foolish approach in an age when American eaters are demanding more transparency (see GMO labeling) when it comes to food, not less. For some reason, Papa John's has failed to realize that when you hoist your entire brand up on the idea of high-quality food, you'd better be able to back it up.
Norma,Thank you for the followup items on the PJ brouhaha. I have routinely looked for the ingredients lists of pizza operators for years and can safely tell you that the only major pizza chain that publishes ingredients lists on a consistent basis is Domino's. And if you saw what goes into their pizzas (http://cache.dominos.com/homev8/docs/menu/dominos_nutrition_v2.21.00.pdf), you perhaps would not want to eat one. For many years, Pizza Hut used to publicize its ingredients lists but it stopped that practice about four or five years ago. I do not recall ever seeing an ingredients list from Little Caesar except for its fundraising pizza kits. The disclosure policies of the smaller chains beyond nutrition information, which just about everyone provides, is mixed. For example, Papa Gino's, Godfathers Pizza, Pizzeria Uno's and Hungry Howie's publicly disclose their ingredients lists but Jet's, Mellow Mushroom, Monical's, Donatos, Buddy's/Shield's/Detroit Style Pizza Co, Round Table and Shakeys do not. Companies that sell frozen versions of their pizzas at the retail level, such as Home Run Inn, Malnati's, Vito and Nick's II, California Pizza Kitchens, Giordano's, and Gino's East, disclose Nutrition Facts for their pizzas (since they are required by law to do so) but that doesn't mean that they use the exact same ingredients and in the same quantities in the pizzas sold in their stores. None of these companies discloses what is used in their own stores although HRI insists that it uses the same dough in its stores as in its frozen pizza production facilities. Some companies will also provide ingredients lists to end users under contract, such as schools, because they are required by local law to do so. As I have previously noted, many pizza operators will tell consumers and other end uses what goes into some of their products if requested. I would also add that Papa John's isn't the only one who touts the quality of their ingredients. They all do it in one way or another. You won't find anyone with the slogan "Lousier ingredients, lousier pizza". Where Papa John's screwed up was in its failure to promptly respond to the writer of the article on this matter. And once the article went viral, it was too late. Peter
Flour (100%):369.99 g | 13.05 oz | 0.82 lbsWater (58%):214.6 g | 7.57 oz | 0.47 lbsIDY (0.10%):0.37 g | 0.01 oz | 0 lbs | 0.12 tsp | 0.04 tbspSalt (1.50%):5.55 g | 0.2 oz | 0.01 lbs | 0.99 tsp | 0.33 tbspVegetable (Soybean) Oil (7.3%):27.01 g | 0.95 oz | 0.06 lbs | 5.95 tsp | 1.98 tbspSugar (4.2%):15.54 g | 0.55 oz | 0.03 lbs | 3.9 tsp | 1.3 tbspTotal (171.1%):633.06 g | 22.33 oz | 1.4 lbs | TF = N/ANote: For a 14" pizza and a nominal thickness factor of 0.142915; bowl residue compensation = 1How much IDY would you use for a 2 to 3 day cold fermentation?
Last night, I found myself part of a captive audience with nothing to eat but Papa John's Pepperoni pizza. If those are better ingredients and that is better pizza, God help those who have to eat lesser pizza made from lesser ingredients.
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Jdurg,Can you tell me which specific PJ clone dough formulation you are using?I wish you well with your PJ clone pizza and faux PJ Special Garlic Sauce. I hope you will report back on your results with both products.Peter