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Debates of Oct. 26th, 2004
House of Commons Hansard #15 of the 38th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was heritage.
- Environment and Sustainable Development
- Genome Canada
- Migratory Birds Convention Act, 1994
- Committees of the House
- Petitions
- Questions on the Order Paper
- Quarantine Act
- Canadian Heritage Act
- Export Development Canada
- Dunc Schooley
- Curling
- Terrorism
- Canadian Council for International Co-operation
- Foster Family Week
- Canada Post
- Palliative Care
- Dominique Brisson
- Canadian Forces
- Member for Fort McMurray--Athabasca
- Hydro One Transmission Line
- Youth
- Terrorism
- GalArt 2004
- A Capital Experience
- Terrorism
- Natural Resources
- Child Care
- Natural Resources
- Sponsorship Program
- Employment Insurance
- Agriculture
- Terrorism
- Infrastructure Program
- The Environment
- Communications Security Establishment
- The Environment
- Public Safety
- Transportation
- Firearms Program
- Multiculturalism
- Broadcasting
- Health
- Canadian Broadcasting Corporation
- Presence in Gallery
- Canadian Heritage Act
- Financial Administration Act
- Message from the Senate
- Financial Administration Act
- Ukraine Elections
- Financial Administration Act
- Business of supply
Environment and Sustainable Development
10 a.m.
The Speaker
I have the honour to lay upon the table, pursuant to subsection 23(3) of the Auditor General Act, the report of the Commissioner of the Environment and Sustainable Development to the House of Commons for the year 2004.
This document is referred permanently to the Standing Committee on the Environment and Sustainable Development.
Genome Canada
Routine Proceedings
10 a.m.
Jerry Pickard Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Industry
Mr. Speaker, in accordance with Standing Order 32(2) I have the honour to table, in both official languages, on behalf of the Minister of Industry, the annual report of Genome Canada for 2003-04.
Migratory Birds Convention Act, 1994
Routine Proceedings
10:05 a.m.
Jim Peterson for the Minister of the Environment
moved for leave to introduce Bill C-15, an act to amend the Migratory Birds Convention Act, 1994 and the Canadian Environmental Protection Act, 1999.
(Motions deemed adopted, bill read the first time and printed)
Committees of the House
Routine Proceedings
10:05 a.m.
Bernard Patry Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC
Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to table, in both official languages, the first report of the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade on Canada's relations with the countries of the Muslim world.
Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the committee is asking the government to table a comprehensive response to the report.
Routine Proceedings
10:05 a.m.
Jay Hill Prince George—Peace River, BC
Mr. Speaker, with the House's indulgence, I have two petitions to present this morning.
The first petition is yet another in a series of petitions I have been trying to present every day that the House sits and has routine proceedings. The petition is from concerned citizens in Mallorytown, Gananoque, Brockville, Ontario, and Golden, British Columbia.
The petitioners wish to draw the House's attention to the fact that the Canadian Forces Housing Agency provides on base housing for our military families. It serves a valuable purpose for those families. Housing accommodations provided by the CFHA are in many instances substandard and families of Canadian Forces soldiers living in accommodations have seen very dramatic rent increases and are due for another one November 1.
Therefore the petitioners call upon Parliament to immediately suspend any future rent increases until such time as the Government of Canada makes substantive improvements to the living conditions of housing provided for our military families.
Routine Proceedings
10:05 a.m.
Jay Hill Prince George—Peace River, BC
Mr. Speaker, the second petition is also one in a series that I have been presenting on behalf of constituents in my riding from the small town of Mackenzie, British Columbia. This is signed by some 53 members and is added to a lot of other signatures I have presented previously.
It draws to the attention of the House that because it is a northern isolated town, Mackenzie faces many challenges and has far less amenities than nearby cities. Without the tax deduction available to residents of nearby communities, the district of Mackenzie and its businesses continue to experience difficulty attracting and retaining invaluable employees, including skilled tradespeople and health care professionals. The current geographic criteria used to determine qualification for the deduction unfairly discriminates against the residents of Mackenzie.
The petitioners therefore call upon Parliament to immediately reinstate Mackenzie's eligibility for the northern residents' tax deduction.
Routine Proceedings
10:05 a.m.
Paul Devillers Simcoe North, ON
Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 36, I would like to present a petition signed by approximately 50 constituents in my riding of Simcoe North.
They are petitioning Parliament to pass legislation to recognize the institution of marriage in federal law as being a lifelong union of one man and one woman to the exclusion of all others.
Routine Proceedings
10:05 a.m.
Christiane Gagnon Québec, QC
Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to present a petition signed by 269 people from the riding of Québec and other ridings around Quebec City.
These people are calling on the government to maintain Canada's multilateral approach to security and to reaffirm its support for non-proliferation, arms control and disarmament and to reject any plans for the militarization of space or star wars, including the plans for a missile defence shield.
This petition has been signed by 269 people. There is no solicitation or visible message other than: No to the missile defence shield. Quebec and the rest of Canada are mobilizing to show the government which direction to take on the matter of the missile defence shield.
Questions on the Order Paper
Routine Proceedings
10:10 a.m.
New Brunswick
Dominic LeBlanc Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons
Mr. Speaker, I ask that all questions be allowed to stand.
Questions on the Order Paper
Routine Proceedings
10:10 a.m.
The Deputy Speaker
Is that agreed?
Questions on the Order Paper
Routine Proceedings
10:10 a.m.
Some hon. members
The House resumed from October 22 consideration of the motion.
Quarantine Act
Government Orders
10:10 a.m.
Carol Skelton Saskatoon—Rosetown—Biggar, SK
Mr. Speaker, it is indeed my pleasure to rise today to speak on Bill C-12, otherwise known as the Quarantine Act.
Canada has had a Quarantine Act for decades, but it has not been updated since 1872 to properly reflect the changing needs of today's world.
No longer do we rely on slow-moving ships to move people. No longer do we trade mainly with cities just down the road. Today's world has millions of people moving across continents every day of the year. Containers by the thousands arrive on our shores with goods destined for every corner of Canada.
But it is not just goods, animals and people coming into Canada that we need to be concerned with; we also need to be concerned with what goes out of Canada. Whether it is the famous rabbits of Australia or the zebra mussels of the Great Lakes, we are all aware of several major problems resulting from careless trade practices. In addition, we all remember SARS and the avian flu problems in British Columbia. Canadians and their economy were devastated by their effects.
Some Toronto businesses say the effects of SARS still linger, and we do not know the actual dollar figure for what SARS cost the city of Toronto and the province of Ontario. In fact, there is a belief that SARS is still affecting the Toronto area.
Bill C-12 is legislation which, for many reasons, could be called a response to SARS. In the wake of SARS, Dr. David Naylor, chair of the National Advisory Committee on SARS and Public Health, made a number of important recommendations.
One of the major recommendations has already moved ahead, with the creation of the Public Health Agency of Canada. The agency has opened and Dr. David Butler-Jones has been appointed the first chief public health officer in Canada.
Another observation by the Naylor advisory committee was that there were insufficient quarantine officers sent to screen air travellers and provide information so that travellers were aware of the situation. Dr. Naylor also stressed that he felt the quarantine officers were sent into the situation with little information and inadequate support materials.
Unfortunately, the agency is not much good until we provide it with some authority, that is, legislation that lets the agency do its job. This is why the legislation before us is so important.
The Naylor advisory committee also said, "The Government of Canada should ensure that an adequate complement of quarantine officers is maintained at airports and other ports of entry, as required" and they should be "fully trained and informed".
Bill C-12 would give the minister the power to designate a wide range of people as officers, which does not necessarily mean that they would be suitably trained for a quarantine emergency.
Canada needs an updated Quarantine Act and trained professionals to meet challenges in our new world. That also means we must have our present medical officers and health care professionals state their opinions on this new bill.
The new act goes a lot further in granting health officials the powers needed to properly contain and address threats to public health from new and re-emerging infectious diseases.
Unlike the old legislation, the bill focuses on airlines as the primary mode of transport, instead of marine vessels.
The proposed act contains powers not seen before in the hands of health officials. Under the bill, they could commandeer any location or facility of their choosing for use in enforcing the Quarantine Act. Most times, this likely would mean the commandeering of a hotel for use as a containment facility for large numbers of people, but it could be anywhere. This in fact is one part of the legislation that concerns me.
The new legislation says market-based compensation will be provided for anyone who is affected, such as a hotel owner. This is similar to what has been promised to other sectors of the economy before, specifically, cattle producers in the wake of the BSE problems. Unfortunately, it was the political arm of government that decided what they were to receive for compensation. As well, I have watched as the CFIA has taken farmland out of production, causing producers great financial difficulty. The government waited until the market fell out of the specific industry and then compensated them based on new, lower market prices.
A key issue in the bill, which needs to be addressed, is the issue of compensation for conveyance owners. While it is somewhat addressed, there does not seem to be anything definite for individuals and their related expenses during the quarantine period.
Following the SARS crisis in Toronto, the cost of hotel rooms dropped drastically. One would expect the hotelier to be compensated for the cost of a hotel room prior to the outbreak. Do we really think customers will race back to a hotel after the quarantine is lifted?
Compensation must be based on the market price before the problem, not after, and that rate must be decided by an independent group, away from government control.
This legislation as proposed does not adequately address the mechanisms that would be used to access such issues and I hope the government will use some of its time to better explain its position and intentions.
As well, I want to make sure that in the government's efforts to address one crisis, it does not create another. We need to have assurances in place ahead of time or else people may not be willing to cooperate.
The new legislation does for the first time provide some initiative to cooperate. There would be severe penalties and jail sentences applicable to those who make disease management much tougher. I believe this is another good step in giving tools to our health officials to do their job effectively.
While health officials would have more rights and powers, so would the people affected the most. The protection of human rights while carrying out quarantine measures has also been of some concern to me. For example, the bill does not specify what individual or agency would determine the symptoms of each of the diseases listed or what symptoms the individual must exhibit in order to be detained by health officials. It should be noted that clause 62 would give cabinet the broad power to make regulations respecting health assessments and physical examinations.
The new legislation would give those being examined and detained more of a say. When and where reasonable, interpreters will be provided. If possible, people will have the ability to request a medical examination by a physician of their preference.
These types of measures are in keeping with the charter, but I believe they do not handcuff our medical officials from doing their job effectively.
Part of doing their job effectively would be the ability to redirect passengers to other locations as necessary or to detain passengers as needed, and even to prevent travellers from leaving from Canada if necessary. They would be able to screen, vaccinate, disinfect, decontaminate and examine goods, animals and people as needed.
All these measures are designed to meet the new standards of the World Health Organization.
Last week I spoke on the need to be better prepared for emergencies in Canada. The proposed act would better address a problem when it arises, with better surveillance measures and better staffing.
We will be going through the bill thoroughly during committee and I will be bringing forward any necessary amendments at that time.
Quarantine Act
Government Orders
10:15 a.m.
Réal Ménard Hochelaga, QC
Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to address Bill C-12, the new Quarantine Act.
Members may recall—no one here was alive at the time, but I am making a historical reference—the first Quarantine Act dates back to the 18th century, more specifically to the year 1794. It is important that all countries have provisions allowing them to tale swift action when infectious diseases are discovered or anticipated.
As the hon. member for Laval—who was making her maiden speech in this House on Friday—aptly pointed out, the Bloc Québécois supports the principle of the bill. We will suggest a few amendments to the Standing Committee on Health. However, as regards the principle of this legislation, we agree of course that taking action in such circumstances is a federal responsibility.
I would like to mention the main focuses of this legislation. If Bill C-12 is passed, carriers would be required to disclose all cases of disease or death occurring prior to their arriving in Canada. This means that it will be mandatory for a ship, a railway company or an airline to report diseases discovered onboard.
This bill would also make it possible to require travellers who have a communicable disease or have been in close proximity to a person who has a communicable disease to present themselves to a screening officer or quarantine officer. My colleagues will agree that this is more than reasonable.
As well, the use of screening technology would be allowed at the entry point into Canada. This may seem equally reasonable but we have a small question on this.
I see that clause 14 of the bill allows "any person authorized by the minister"— this being the Minister of Health—"to use any screening technology that does not involve the entry into the traveller's body of any instrument or other foreign body" in order to determine whether a traveller has symptoms of a communicable disease.
That strikes me as a bit general, an opening to abuse in certain circumstances. I wonder whether it might be replaced by the wording "any medically appropriate technique".
In passing legislation, we must not betray the intent of the legislator. As much as possible, therefore, where appropriate, the bill needs to be precise so as not to allow any openings for abusive interpretations or confer upon the Minister of Health any powers we do not wish to confer upon him.
This bill would also permit the inspection of any conveyance arriving in Canada, and the disinfection and decontamination of the conveyance, its contents and cargo, if necessary.
This bill, which appears highly technical, certainly forces us to reflect a bit about globalization. When the first quarantine laws were enacted, back in the 18th century, 1794 to be precise, hon. members will agree that people's mobility was relatively limited. Travel was not without discomfort; the means were not as highly developed as they are now.
I would like to make a quick aside here, to indicate that I strongly encourage the hon. member for Outremont to reintroduce former Bill C-26, which conferred powers of mediation on the Canadian Transportation Agency. I cannot understand that member's lack of backbone. We need him to show a little more gumption in defending the interests of Quebec. This is very important.
Yesterday I was speaking with a woman mayor who sits on one of the committees of the Federation of Canadian Municipalities, a very important lobby group. I believe that the leader of the NDP has had connections with this in the past. Railway transportation is an extremely important problem.
I have been told that the railways run through some 1,400 communities in Canada. It is quite incredible to realize that CP and CN are acting like railway delinquents.
In my riding, Hochelaga, CP works 24 hours a day, because it serves the port of Montreal. Some of our constituents, who live in residential areas near the tracks, find their peace is disturbed at all hours of the day and night, morning and afternoon.
I think the hon. member for Saint-Lambert has a similar problem. As I said, it affects 1,400 communities in Canada. We do not yet know what number the new bill that deals with this issue will be given; the previous one was Bill C-26. Our constituents know that the number of a bill corresponds to the order in which it is introduced in the House, and we do not know when this bill will be introduced. Nevertheless, I am not explaining myself very well with respect to the dithering by the member for Outremont. I hope he is not one of those servile ministers who blindly follow orders from the lobbyists for CP and CN, whose power all of us on the Hill are familiar with.
Luckily for consumers, there is someone like the hon. member for Longueuil—Pierre-Boucher, our transport critic, who is shrewd enough to understand the negotiations required in such circumstances. I hope that the Minister of Transport will soon introduce a new bill identical to Bill C-26 so that the Canadian Transportation Agency can intervene. As we know, it is a quasi-judicial body that issues official rulings.
We will recall that citizens of Oakville, Ontario, asked the Canadian Transportation Agency to make regulations allowing it to intervene in the operating conditions of the major national carriers such as CN and CP. Since the carriers have the funds needed to contest legislation, both the constitutional and more practical aspects, they contested the power and prerogatives of the Canadian Transportation Agency and they won in a Federal Court ruling, in 2001, if I remember correctly. Once again we are in a situation where, unfortunately, the railway companies have total control unless we, the legislators, can intervene.
That is the end of my digression, which was brief and really timely in this debate on quarantine and intended to remind hon. members that the mobility of persons is a consequence of globalization. One of our colleagues in this House looked into that matter. We are not talking about just an opinion. Our colleague gave it some thought and realized that the political boundaries of a state do not necessarily match its economic boundaries anymore.
Naturally, the mobility of capital, people and goods creates a flux, a constant movement of our fellow citizens. The border between the United States and Canada, for example, is one of the most open. The hon. member for Charlesbourg—Haute-Saint-Charles could perhaps remind me who said, "Geography has made us neighbours; history has made us friends". This is how the relationship between Canada and the United States was described. I think it was by former Prime Minister Diefenbaker.
I will conclude, because I have only one minute left, by saying that we will support the bill in principle. While we understand that it is the role of the federal government to look at potential areas of infection, we are concerned because the federal government is trying to claim certain prerogatives.
For instance, I read in the bill that the federal government planned to deal directly with the authorities. These would be health officials. Clearly, that is not desirable. But, in principle, we will support the bill.
My hon. colleague from Laval and I will put amendments forward at the Standing Committee on Health. We will work with the sense of responsibility that has always been the trademark of the Bloc Québécois team.
Quarantine Act
Government Orders
10:25 a.m.
The Deputy Speaker
Is the House ready for the question?


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All-County musicians to perform in Dunkirk Saturday
The Dunkirk High School Auditorium will be the site of the 2013 Chautauqua County Music Teachers Association-sponsored Winter All-County Festival and Concert. The concert will take place on Saturday at 5 p.m.
This event features the county's best student musicians from the 18 school districts located in Chautauqua County, in one of several music ensembles. Featured in this festival are the Elementary Band, Women's Chorus, Percussion En-semble, Vocal Jazz Chorus, and All-County Jazz Ensemble.
The first group on the concert program will be the All-County Elementary Band. This group features selected fifth- and sixth-grade students from the county's elementary band programs, and will be led by guest conductor Philip J. Briatico.
Briatico currently teaches instrumental music at the Elba Central Schools, located in Genesee County. During his time at Elba Schools, his ensembles have received awards and recognition for different marching band competitions as well as the NYSSMA Major En-semble festival. His responsibilities include teaching all instrumental music lessons as well as group ensembles in grades 4-12.
Briatico currently serves as the president of the Genesee-Wyoming Music Educators Association. In addition, he has also served as the conductor of the Corfu-Pembroke Community Band as well as being a guest conductor for the Batavia Concert Band. Briatico received his bachelor of music in music education from Buffalo State College and his master of music from the State University of New York at Buffalo.
Maryellen Giese, retired teacher from the instrumental music department at Kendall Elementary School, will conduct the Women's All-County Chorus. Geise conducts the Hochstein Youth Singers (grades 3-12), the Hochstein Singers (grades 7-12), and teaches Adult Voice Classes at the Hochstein School of Music and Dance in Rochester. She directs the Sweden Senior Singers in Brockport, and spends time on the other end of the baton as a singer and Board member of the Rochester Oratorio Society.
Giese earned her bachelors of music education at Nazareth College of Rochester. Her graduate work was at SUNY Brockport and the Eastman School of Music. She retired after 31 years of teaching in the Brockport Central School District where she served as a Vocal Music Teacher and Music Department Chair, directing choirs and vocal ensembles at the elementary, middle, and high School levels.
She is a member of the American Choral Directors Association, the National Association for Music Education, and regularly conducts honors choruses throughout New York State. She has multiple listings in Who's Who Among American Educators and was the recipient of the Rochester Philharmonic Orchestra 2008 Music Educator Award, and the 2009 Faculty Service Award from the Hochstein School of Music.
The Percussion Ensemble will be conducted by Roger Chagnon III. Chagnon has taught music at Brocton Central School, Westfield Academy and Central School, and is currently chair of the music department at Ripley Central School.
He received his bachelor's degree in music education from Bethel College, where percussion was his principal instrument, and his master's in music education degree at SUNY Fredonia. Chagnon fondly remembers being a member of the Chautauqua All-County Percussion Ensemble as a high school student and is excited to return as its conductor for a third time.
Jeff Welcher will conduct the Vocal Jazz Chorus. He received his bachelor of music education degree from Crane School of Music at Potsdam, and his master of music education from West Chester State Univ-ersity. He was the Vocal Music Director at Oneida High School in Oneida where he conducted the Concert Choir, Freshmen Chorus, Vocal Jazz Ensemble and Freshmen Jazz Lab. He retired in 2011 and is currently directing the Vocal Jazz Ensemble at Syracuse University.
Welcher has been involved with the NYSSMA Conference Vocal Jazz Ensemble as chairman and is one of a small number of teachers certified for Vocal Jazz adjudication in New York State. He has done guest conducting and adjudicating for All-County, Regional, and All-State Choirs and Vocal Jazz Ensembles throughout the Northeast. Welcher is an active member of ACDA, serving as Eastern Division Repertoire and Standards Committee Chairman for Jazz Ensembles. He is also a member of IAJE, a certified judge for the International Championship of Collegiate A Cappella, and a recent recipient of the Syracuse Symphony Musicians Award for Outstanding Choral Director. As a performer, Welcher is a member of the Syracuse Vocal Ensemble, and active church soloist/organist and jazz vocalist/pianist.
The last group of the concert will be the All-County Jazz Ensemble, featuring 22 of the best high school student jazz musicians in Chautauqua County. This year's group will be directed by Ken Kuriscak. Kuriscak received his bachelors in music education from the State University of New York at Fredonia and his Masters in Music Education from the State University of New York at Buffalo. He has taught in the Niagara Falls City School District in Niagara Falls, the Bradford Central District in Bradford, Pa., and the Royalton Hartland Elementary Schools in Middleport.
Currently, Kuriscak directs the NW Jazz Ensemble and the 701 Jazz Band at Niagara Wheatfield Senior High School. In addition to these ensembles, Kuriscak also teaches Music Lessons and Music Theory at Niagara Wheatfield. Aside from teaching at Niagara Wheatfield, Kuriscak has directed the NCMEA Junior High All-County Jazz Ensemble, the ECMEA Senior High All-County Jazz Ensemble, and the Monroe County Junior High Jazz Ensemble. Kuriscak performs regularly as a freelance saxophonist in the Buffalo/Niagara Area. He was named "Best College Jazz Soloist" by Downbeat Magazine in 1996, was a finalist and received a scholarship in the East Coast Jazz Festival in 1997, and toured with the Tommy Dorsey Orchestra in 1998. He has also performed with the Erie Philharmonic Orchestra during their Pops Concert Season. Kuriscak's major instrument is the saxophone, and he doubles on flute and clarinet.
The organization for this festival begins nearly 10 months prior to the program. Each student is selected first by his/her school's music teacher. That list is pared down by the CCMTA chairpersons, who then select the students (in some cases by audition, teacher recommendation, or through a score received by playing a solo for a New York state-certified music adjudicator) who make the final roster for each group.
Other duties of each chairperson include finding the guest conductor to lead the group, compiling and disseminating music to each of the students selected for the ensemble, and organizing any rehearsals prior to the day of the festival. The chairperson's final act is to introduce the guest conductor. It then becomes the students' moment to shine, showcasing their hard work and talent to an enthusiastic audience of over 500.
The concert itself lasts under two hours, but the time and preparation that go into the festival far exceed that moment in time on stage. Students begin rehearsing their music with their teacher as soon as they receive it sometime in early December. They may then be required to attend one or two additional rehearsals throughout the months of January and February.
On the day of the concert, these dedicated music students begin arriving at the school between 8 and 8:30 a.m., for a prompt 9 a.m. rehearsal start. The day continues with rehearsals, lunch, and a few small breaks in between, until 4:30 p.m. when the last students dress for the 5 p.m. concert start time.
Tickets will be available at the door, $5 for adults and $3 for seniors and students.
In addition to the Winter All-County Festival, CCMTA provides scholarships to area music students for continuing music education; sponsors a Solo Evaluation Festival, in which students prepare and play for a New York state-certified music adjudicator who provides the student with valuable comments and tips to improve his or her musicianship; and hosts a Spring All-County Music Festival each year featuring the Elementary, Junior High, and Senior High Choruses, and the Junior and Senior High All-County Bands, held in the Amphitheater of the Chautauqua Institution on June 1 at 7:30 pm.
For more information, visit www.ccmta.net or contact your school district's music department.


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3 Ways Technology is Changing Small Business
NEW YORK ( TheStreet) -- The marketing playbook for small businesses is changing, even in industries that might surprise you, such as home improvement. Remodeling and design professionals increasingly recognize the need to incorporate mobile, local and social tools in their marketing activities to build their brands and reach new clients. They know today's homeowner is getting information and ideas -- as well as exposure to professional talent -- far beyond their local area.
A survey of more than 100,000 design and remodeling professionals and the homeowners they serve unearthed some surprising changes in expectations on both sides. Here are three ways we found the marketing landscape changing for these pros:
1. A shift from personal referrals to community referrals
Historically, professionals in the home improvement industry have relied largely on word of mouth referrals. Today's homeowner may still get recommendations from friends and family, but research shows they will do an enormous amount of due diligence before hiring a professional, such as reading client reviews and using community activity to gauge a professional's personality and what he or she might be like to work with - and they are doing so as much as a year before starting a project. A recent Houzz survey found that when it comes to hiring a professional for their project, 81% of homeowners rated "good reviews and recommendations" as very important -- on a five-point scale, followed by "they are an expert in their field" at 70% and "has a personality I can work with" at 67%.
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What would be the closest approximation of '00' flour?
October 10, 2005, 01:23:38 PM »
Would it be some combination of AP and cake flour? Pastry flour? For all the options at my local co-op, I have to think I can get to some approximation of the characteristics. I continue to experiment, but sometimes a quick question can make a large leap forward.... please feel free to redirect to old threads, there is so much on 00 flour I am not sure where to find this piece of info.
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I don't want to discourage you from trying combinations of cake/pastry flour and all-purpose flour to try to come close to the 00 flour. That is what I did in the early days when 00 flours were very hard to come by. But now there are several 00 flours available to us, with the Caputo 00 being the best overall choice in my opinion. You can even buy it in small quantities from pennmac.com. You might even discover that it is more expensive to make your own combinations than it is to just buy the 00 flour. For example, I couldn't find "white" pastry flour anywhere. I could find the "whole grain" version (e.g., from Arrowhead Mills) but not white pastry flour. I ended up getting it from King Arthur and paying the shipping charges.
But if you want to stick with cake and pastry flours and all-purpose flours and they are available at your co-op, there are many recipes available to you, including one from Pamela Sheldon Johns from her book on Neapolitan pizzas (
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). You will not find unanimity on the ratios of flours to use, however. I have seen recipes from Ms. Johns that use 3 parts all-purpose flour to 1 part cake flour, and 6 parts all-purpose flour to one part white pastry flour. Julia Childs has a recipe that uses 2 parts all-purpose flour to 1 part white pastry flour. I came up with a bread flour version (which I personally prefer over the others) that uses 2 parts bread flour to 1 part white pastry flour. According to one of our members, Aaron, Mario Batali recommends in one of his cookbooks that one use 4 parts cake/pastry flour to one part all-purpose flour, which is in the opposite direction of the other recipes. With all these possibilities, you can spend a lifetime of experimentation trying to get close to the real thing.
You might find the following links useful for their recipes (including many of those mentioned above) and information on the subject you have raised:
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Thanks Peter,
I really appreciate all your help, and everyone else here as well. I simply have just about enough time to dedicate to reading the incredible breadth of knowledge here as to thoroughly confuse myself. I thought I read recently that 00 flour has characteristics that differentiate it from the Johns recipe enough to really make a difference. I thought maybe cake flour with some gluten added might help? I just plain get confused trying to absorb all the info, and prefer to spend what time I have at home cooking and experimenting.
I will look at the pennmac site, I really should have tried that option rather than sticking to the need to improvise. as always, thanks!
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Italian grains and our domestic grains are different and are milled differently. They can even have the same or similar protein contents and yet be different. That can easily confuse one. There are even wide differences between different brands of 00 flour, to add even more confusion.
It is technically possible to combine cake flour and vital wheat gluten and come up with an edible pizza. I actually tried this once just to see what would happen. The crust and pizza actually weren't bad and taught me that you can take a flour like cake flour, which will not itself produce a pizza dough (it is very low in protein), and make it into a pizza flour by just adding vital wheat gluten. But now, with the Caputo and other 00 flours available, I don't see any reason to try any other combinations.
What I always thought was interesting is that Pamela Sheldon Johns, who lives in Italy and knows all about 00 flours, did not include any 00 dough recipes in her book. She undoubtedly knew at the time that Americans would have a hard time finding 00 flours or wouldn't bother trying to locate them. Or they wouldn't have the high-temperature ovens to make true Neapolitan pizzas. So, she stuck with flours that she felt Americans could readily find in their local supermarkets and be able to use to make pizzas in their home ovens. Even Peter Reinhart, in his book
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, doesn't have a Neapolitan dough recipe using 00 flour. I suspect it is for the same reason that Ms. Johns didn't include such a recipe in her book. A good part of what you will read on this forum is the efforts of many members to make decent 00 pizzas in their home ovens. That information will be more useful to you than just about anything you will find in the pizza cookbooks currently on the market.
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Caputo is now available at the Forno Bravo website also.
$17.50 (5) 2.2lb bags Caputo pizza flour
$42.00 55lb bag Capputo pizza flour
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Farina di Grano Duro or 00 type flour sometimes referred as W class somwhere closer to W400 is appreciated by Italians,Turkish and Japanese are the main export markets(bread & noodle making) for grain producing nations
Farina 00 is appreciated for its whiteness, basically it is a low extract flour around 73% to 75% with low ash content (hence its purity) and still retains relative high gluten.
I know of few mills in Australia producing this type of blend for commercial use but it is not available in stores I have a 25kg bag to play with soon.
Argentina is also a large producer of this type of flour but farina or harina 00 is widely available (little surprise since its diet is also Italian) and so is USA though you may have a hard time finding it in small packages or bags.
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Farina di grano duro (semola or semola rimacinata) and 00 type are two different thing. What is more, the gluten of Hard wheat is different from regular wheat and hence not ideal to use in pizzamaking.
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@ pizzanapoletana
It is also called semola
You right but I was merely responding to the question above
of course pizzaiolos favour high ash content which is not found in semola
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In an earlier post, David mentioned that Forno Bravo is now selling the Caputo 00 flour in small (1 kilo) bags and also in the big bag (25 kilo, or 55 lbs.).
Since I was not aware that the Caputo 00 pizzeria flour was being sold in small bags in the U.S., I decided to investigate. My memory from having previously spoken with the importer on this subject was that the small bags that were being considered for U.S. distribution would be a different flour more similar to an Italian all-purpose flour. Today, through an exchange of emails with the importer, I was told that the Caputo flour now being sold in the small bags is called Caputo 00 Extra and is indeed more like an all-purpose flour, with a protein content of about 1% lower than the Caputo 00 pizzeria flour. The blend is also different from the Caputo 00 pizzeria flour although it too can be used to make pizza dough. However, I was told the the crust is more likely to have a breadlike characteristic.
To the best of my knowledge, the Caputo 00 pizzeria flour is still being sold only in the 25 kilo bags, and in 5-lb. repackaged bags at pennmac.com (look under the Pizza Makers tab).
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In short: Bournemouth Bay Half MarathonIn full: First two miles quite hilly, a tough hill to start followed by a nice down hill stretch. Race along seafront was windy, so ran into a headwind for 6 miles. Once reaching the point of turning around the run became easier. I found this race easy the last time I did it, this time around I found if to be challenging. But I probably wasn't fit enough. Also quite warm from around 11am. Glad I completed the race. Date of review: April 7, 2013
In short: Great location, excellent atmosphere. Perfect race for beginners. Date of review: February 16, 2013
In short: Excellent HM!In full: Second time I've done this race. Really enjoyed the run, quite hilly in some parts. Was extremely cold to start and then got very warm, I opted to wear lots of clothing during the race and ended up regretting it at the tenth mile. Overall excellent atmosphere and enjoyable race. Date of review: March 6, 2011
In short: Great raceIn full: I must say the support at the Bath Half Marathon is the best I've ever seen in the UK, a memorable atmosphere for sure. As for the late start, give or take there were 11,000+ runners so rather safe then sorry. I loved the medal and thought the goodie bag was generous even considering the entry fee, as a cyclist and triathlete I usually pay more and get nothing and this is a big race, so quite chuffed. Those who are complaining, I think you are being very unfair. Todays race was worth the trip up from Wales and I will be back in 2010. Oh and before I forget, those looking for a fast course, this is excellent don't let some of the remarks on here put you off, high five to those angry bears lol Date of review: March 15, 2009
In short: Excellent Half MarathonIn full: Firstly a big thank you to the Marshalls who stood in the terrible weather whilst we ran and those who offered encouragement and support. Tough race due to the weather, I was pleased when I crossed the finished line. I must also point out how friendly the welsh are, atmosphere was fantastic and enjoyed the banter. Will be back in 2010...Date of review: March 9, 2009
In short: Ideal for anyone taking up running.In full: A good race, ideal for anyone looking to do their first 10km race. As usual - the atmosphere and support were brilliant. A worthwhile cause as well... Be back next year. Date of review: February 14, 2009
In short: Watford Half Marathon needs new management...In full: I did this race in 2008 and now in 2009. I think I will give the race a skip in 2010. Here are the reasons why: 1. Organisation of baggage was painful, I felt sorry for the poor guy who lost his bag 2. I thought the race lacked atmosphere until the finish 3. No thought was given to goodie bag, a medal costs £1.50 if bought in bulk and my 2009 t-shirt looks the same as 2008, except date change 4. Nearly ran over by a car because a certain BMW driver ignored a marshall who told me to go haha crazy stuff!!! I did knock off 4 minutes and 20 seconds from 2008 and I love the course, the hills are great, but still I've done enough races now to appreciate what is a good race, this unfortunately is a poor race. If you have nothing better to do next year, do it but don't expect anything special. Date of review: February 2, 2009
In short: Great raceIn full: Watch the hills, especially the last hill at the 11.5 miles mark, I saw many runners struggle on the last hill. Overall great race and wow, I achieved a PB. High five Swindon, see you in 2009.Date of review: October 18, 2008
In short: Excellent race In full: Absolutely brilliant race, just a few things to add as suggestions. 1pm start took up most my Sunday, perhaps an earlier start would be better. Second year in a row I paid online and did not receive my race pack, however I must compliment the admin staff of the event, they sorted out a race pack and were exceptionally apologetic and friendly. Overall super race, best 10km race in the country without a doubt... Date of review: September 22, 2008
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Skip to comments.4 gay NFL players could come out on the same day, Brendon Ayanbadejo says
Posted on 04/05/2013 8:34:12 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
Ravens linebacker Brendon Ayanbadejo was released by Baltimore this offseason, and on the heels of comments earlier this week where he suggested that he was cut in part because of his outspoken stance on gay rights and equality issues, Ayanbadejo clarified himself to the Baltimore Sun on Friday. During an hour-long interview he made it clear that he harbors no resentment for the Ravens, and respects them for the support they offered him throughout his career both on and off the field. But that's not all.
...Ayanbadejo had this to say:
"I think it will happen sooner than you think," Ayanbadejo said. "We're in talks with a handful of players who are considering it. There are up to four players being talked to right now and they're trying to be organized so they can come out on the same day together. It would make a major splash and take the pressure off one guy. It would be a monumental day if a handful or a few guys come out."
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I disagree.
it would be a dark day for the NFL, athletics in general. There is no place in the locker room for a gay - player or correspondent.
It's stupid. But liberals will love it. They can "celebrate" gayness and feel all superior.
I don't care if someone is gay. I don't care if someone is heterosexual. In either case, I don't want them telling me what they do behind closed doors.
Our society is going down the sewer, and the liberals are the motivating force.
I hate liberals.
They gonna stand in front of the crowd each with one hand on the next guy's butt? (Wearing their Justin Bieber tee shirts?)
Tight end now has a completely different meaning....
It seems as if the entire world is all gay, all the time now.
Hopefully there aren't any Packer packers.
homosexuality is abnormal...it might be found in nature, and we shouldn't hate them or even discriminate in most things, but its not something one has to let others know about....its a very strange thing actually when you really think about what they do for fun....
If an alien came to earth and watched US television, he'd conclude the US is 30% black and 30% homo.
Probably all kickers.
or Cleveland "Browns"....
Our nation is diseased. We are filled with licentiousness. All that is ever talked about - ever - is sex, or is somehow tied to back into a sexual context. For many Americans the orgasm has become the pinnacle of their meager existence. It has become something to be pursued night and day; the fulfillment of their now pathetic lives. They have become utterly consumed by their own fleshly desires. They are incapable of controlling the appetite that they have allowed to control them.
Will Ayanbadejo be one of them? If he thinks that "talking" these guys/gays into coming out of the closet will help them and their careers, he and they will be in for a rude awakening. No doubt the league and the elites will give great support, but the fans and the players will make life miserable for these guys/gays. Football is a macho, contact sport.
'I'll shower at the hotel, thanks.'
They're all f@gs. They love to pat each other on the butts.
This would kill the NFL ratings.
homosexual = financial loss
see jc penny
see roc hudson dvd sales
see ane heche job offers
the list goes on.
The market for NFL views is not homosexuals. If anything it is a group that would flee any such pairing.
I don't know...I should think that there's more than four happy players in the NFL. You'd think a lot more would be happy and gay to make millions playing the game. There might even be some homosexuals in the league.(snicker)
A Raven supports gay marriage and gay-everything. Why is that not surprising.
No longer a question of if but when the pink football will make its debutas well.
I was already annoyed by the all too frequent commercials and late start game times, not to mention the increasingly racist announcers. This'll do it for me.
Now when one of these players get hit and hurt, they will claim they have been targeted, and sue the league for not protecting them.
There was this gay football player who started out as a tight end but soon became a wide receiver...
homos in football? shocking.
they've been pushing homo friendly subliminal advertisement in commercials during the games for a number of years.
simple... if nfl goes fag:
1. don't go to the games.
2. stop watching the games.
3. don't buy any nfl gear or paraphernalia
satisfy your football needs with the college games.
Faggots don't belong in a man's world. The NFL would be cutting their own balls off with this.
"Hopefully there arent any Packer packers."
Lombardi will turn over in his grave. I hope to God not.
I propose a separate gay football league for all the "different" folks.
LOL! Laces go out!
It is the media, run predominantly by leftists, giving a false impression. And succeeding, apparently. The younger generation has bought it.
it's also quite common in nature to kill / eat your young and/or kill any competitors / agitators in the group.
If they can play nobody will care.
There was once a Negro League, let's have a Poofter League, huh?
I think the demise of football will happen sooner than they think. Who wants to watch a bunch of queers climbing all over each other?
It'll work as well as the broke back mountain movie. No one wants to see that crap.
"satisfy your football needs with the college games."
Yeah, that's my fallback plan. Probably LSU.
'Generation Sodom'...
Nothing like a good game of 'fag football'... :-)
They're homosexual, not gay. Let's stop using the verbage of the left.
Also, Roger Goodell should be happy with all the homo football players. It should cut down on head injuries as I can't imagine these queer players roughing each other up on the football field.
Next we'll have "Gay Pride Sunday", and all NFL teams will be obligated to paint rainbows across the 50 yard lines.
I find myself without interest in the NFL any longer.
Four homos playing in the NFL? Well pat me on the butt and call me Skippy! Whodda thunk?!
They could rename "Football" to "Smear the Queer".
Bet they're all Center's.
I Agree!
The uniforms would look FABULOUS!
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No. 6 Ohio State (10-0, 6-0) at Wisconsin (7-3, 4-2), 3:35 p.m. (ABC/ESPN2)
Series Record: Ohio State leads 54-17-5
WHAT'S AT STAKE: Banned from the Big Ten title game and the postseason, the best the Buckeyes can hope for is to go undefeated. Wisconsin, meanwhile, wants to prove it didn't get into the Big Ten championship by default. Montee Ball is two touchdowns shy of breaking the major college career record, and he'd love nothing more than to reach the mark in his last game at Camp Randall Stadium.
KEY MATCHUP: DE John Simon and DL Johnathan Hankins will try to knot things up in the middle to force Ball outside the tackles.
Ohio State: QB Braxton Miller. As Miller goes, so go the Buckeyes. He's accounted for 66 percent - 2,919 of 4,453 yards - of Ohio State's offense, and has scored more than half the Buckeyes' touchdowns.
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FACTS & FIGURES: The home team has won the last three meetings. ... Wisconsin has won its last nine games in November, outscoring opponents 474-152, and is 23-6 after Nov. 1 under coach Bret Bielema. ... This will be Ohio State coach Urban Meyer's first game against Wisconsin. He didn't face the Badgers when he was at Bowling Green, Utah or Florida. ... Meyer is 32-2 when having more than a week to prepare for a game. The Buckeyes were off last week. ... Two of Ohio State's longest winning streaks have ended in Madison. A 19-game winning streak, tied for second-longest in team history, ended with a 17-10 loss in 2003. A 13-game winning streak, the Buckeyes' sixth-longest, ended in a 7-7 tie in 1958. ... With Miller already over 1,000 yards rushing, Buckeyes RB Carlos Hyde needs 267 yards to join him.
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