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Fairy tales don't only belong to the domain of childhood. Their overt themes are threaded throughout hit TV series like Game of Thrones and True Blood, Grimm and Once Upon a Time. These stories survive, says Maria Tatar, by adapting across cultures and history. They are carriers of the plots we endlessly re-work in the narratives of our lives — helping us work through things like fear and hope.
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is the John L. Loeb Professor of Germanic Languages and Literatures at Harvard University, where she also chairs the Program in Folklore and Mythology. Her books include Enchanted Hunters: The Power of Stories in Childhood and The Annotated Brothers Grimm.
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Synchronicity never ceases to
Synchronicity never ceases to amaze me: I listened to the broadcast this afternoon, then went home to continue reading the newest novel checked out of the library, Jodi Picoult's THE STORYTELLER. The following excerpt appears . . . (pages 128-129):
" 'I was a writer,' she says. 'A child who believed in fairy tales. Not the silly Disney ones your mother used to read to you, but the ones with blood and thorns, with girls who knew that love could kill you just as often as it could set you free. I believed in the curses of witches and the madness of werewolves. But I also mistakenly believed the scariest stories came from imagination, not real life. . . . I started writing when I was thirteen. It is what I did when other girls were fixing their hair and trying to flirt with boys. Instead, I would dream up characters and dialogue. I would write a chapter and give it to my best friend, Darija, to read and see what she thought. . . . This is what I was doing when the war came. And I did not stop. . . . It is not the original, of course. I don't have that anymore. But as soon as I could, I rewrote from memory. I HAD to. . . . This is my story. . . . It's not the one your are looking for, about what happened during the war. That's not nearly as important. Because this story,
it's the one that kept me alive.'
"Her story is supernatural, about an UPIOR--the Polish version of a vampire. But what makes it so terrifying is not the monster, who's a known quantity, but the ordinary men who turn out to be monsters, too. It is as if she knew, even at that young age, that you cannot separate good and evil cleanly, that they are conjoined twins sharing a single heart. If words had flavors, hers would be bitter almonds and coffee grounds."
This excerpt deals with an elderly Jewish woman who survived the Holocaust and the memories of what had happened to her father before the concentration camp experience even arrived. I could not help but parallel this narrative with those you ladies referenced on air today.
I am so happy each time that
I am so happy each time that you post a new program. I love your programs but I have problem with my hearing and I use the transcripts in order to enjoy the programs. Are you going to post the transcript for this program? I really hope so.
Thank you very much and Blessings to all of you.
Ricardo, we most certainly
Ricardo, we most certainly will. With the sound-rich nature of this week's show, we were producing right up until the eleventh hour — which means the transcriptionist got the audio a bit later than usual. We will post the transcript today. Thanks for asking!
I don't know if I just
I don't know if I just noticed the sound more than usual for this show or it just seemed richer than usual. Great job. I really loved the clips you chose from the different media references, especially that last one from Game of Thrones. I am going to look to see if I can get that sound clip.
I whole heartily agree with
I whole heartily agree with your statement above. I love you, Krista and have for the last eleven years. You have been a great inspiration and a resource of profound wisdom for me and, I am sure, for countless others like me who seek truth and meaning in life. Thank you, Krista Tippet.
Thank you for today's podcast
Thank you for today's podcast. I love all of the On Being episodes very much, but decided to add a quick comment
I'm very interested in the traditional tales, and also the modern interpretations. It has been interesting to watch these stories and characters evolve. I guess since I am a comic-book geek (somewhat) I felt like I should mention some of the most inspired reinterpretations I've come across...
There is Bill Willingham's Fables, which tells the stories of various "Fables" who are forced to flee from their various homeland and have gathered to form a small community in the modern world. Sounds a little cliche, but it's very well done. I'd Also recommend the work of Neil Gaiman, his comics and literature. Sandman is an amazing work, and his novel Neverwhere is also a great introduction. Mike Mignola's Hellboy and BPRD also do a fantastic job re-imagining characters and stories.
I know there are many great ways traditional stories are being retold. Movies, TV, literature... it is nice to see. I guess over time I've come to believe that some of the best (and worst too probably :) modern fairy tales are being created in comic books.
I recently read "The
I recently read "The Virginian" and found much food for thought from a Harvard graduate and exponent of the American Way in a truer sense than today. Some say that the book is too simple, but I propose that it is about starting over- a rebirth of America in a pure sense with respect to foundational truths of right and wrong. America is grasping for foundational truth without the Holy Bible and Fairy Tales are a vehicle in this direction.
Thank you for the opportunity
Thank you for the opportunity to listen to Maria Tatar (and you, too!) on the fascinating worlds that our minds-hearts-emotions seek in the tales and stories that creative human power use for (paraphrasing Ms. Tatar in the interview) "making sense out of our lives". We are indeed story beings! How may I contact Maria Tatar? My dream-to-materialize is here, in this simple webpage: and I do hope that both of you would have a look at it. I have been investing much work and most of my financial resources in building this service for young children and their mindful educators! Both your feedbacks will be highly appreciated - feel free to email me and I will respond immediately, with my heartfelt thanks! Kindly, Rubens Turkienicz ( firstname.lastname@example.com )
When I was in the Peace Corps
When I was in the Peace Corps in Ukraine, I conducted 4 different English speaking goups at the local library. The groups were held in the Windows on America department. The most loved of these groups was the English listening comprehension group, actually a storytelling group where i would tell and read fairy tales. Often the room would overflow with participants ranging from ages 16 to 60. We would draw comparisons between the cultures from the stories. It was a beautiful way to see connections between cultures and we were able to have many wonderful indepth conversations "on being" a part of the human family. Not only did they improve their listening comprehension but their English speaking improved as well as their understanding of cross-cultural diversity. I believe it was the fairytales that allowed everyone to actively engage and not fear to ask questions about what they didn't understand. I loved telling the tales and they loved listening.
I wonder if one reason why
I wonder if one reason why the fairy tale themes are now so evident is that many (most?) of those who are now adults, other than maybe in Disney versions, did not hear the canon of stories as children, or at least if they did hear them, it was not regularly? Those who are now adults may have not been read to as children (for reasons of poverty for example). Or perhaps their parents may have felt these stories were "too violent" and that children should be shielded from them. Or the other extreme, the stories may have been used selectively to teach specific moral lessons, which is not their intent. We missed something as children that we need now.
Other people who have explored the purpose of these tale with children are Vign Guroian, and of course Clarissa Pinkola Estes (another woman with Hungarian roots) writes about fables and myths and the unconscious.
Thanks for this reflection - from another 1/2 Hungarian adult!
Maria Tatar remarked that she
Maria Tatar remarked that she didn't care for church because of the sermons. And later referred to that, saying she doesn't like to be judgmental ... to sermonize, I suppose. But then you, Krista, referred to being thoughtful ... becoming intentional ... shaping. My take: "internalizing your responsibilities". So by avoiding the sermons, do we forestal internalizing our responsibilities? Extend our childhood? Is that part of the explanation of declining church attendance and our secularized society? Gives me something to think about. Thanks. :o)
I appreciated this so much. I
I appreciated this so much. I was in need of this kind of explanation of the value of stories - see The Great Cauldron of Story and the Landscape of Change -
Thank you for explaining.
I've come across two
I've come across two retellings of traditional stories. One is movie that came out in 2011 called "Red Riding Hood" which centers on a young woman whose town had been terrorized by werewolves for generations. It has many of the elements of the commonly told story in a dark, adult setting. What I liked most was that at the end, "Red Riding Hood" decided to move into her grandmother's house in the woods rather than live in the fear filled village.
The other story is a book called Ash by Milinda Lo, which is a retelling of Cinderella. At the end of the story the protagonist leave her step-mother's house without fanfare, but says goodbye to her younger stepsister who was actually a nice girl. I especially liked how they parted on good terms, even sharing a hug and wishing each other good luck.
I tuned-in to your amazing
I tuned-in to your amazing fairy tale and folklore story this past Sunday and became so immersed in the interview I drove past my neighborhood and through a drive-thru to have an excuse to keep listening. When I got home I dashed into the house, dumped the last minute ice cream treats on my family and raced to turn on the radio in my bedroom. I flopped on my bed with dessert in hand and thoroughly enjoyed the rest of the delightful and thoughtful interview. It has been a long time since a radio program has captivated my attention and fired-up my imagination in one magical swoop. Thank you and Bravo!
I was a fairy tale fan well
I was a fairy tale fan well before my brother was born when I was five. Suddenly, all the formerly adoring grown-ups in my life just couldn't wait for me to learn to tie my own shoes, though they had always patiently done so. Then, a few months later, I was sent off to school to learn how to read, even though adults seemed to enjoy reading to me in the past.
Then I remembered the many fairy tales in which it was decided that it was time for a child "to make her own way in the world." I was greatly relieved not to be completely evicted.
Dear Ms. Tippett, I listened
Dear Ms. Tippett, I listened to the extended interview with Maria Tartar with some disappointment. I was waiting the entire time for you both to talk about Jung and von Franz's view of fairy tales as stories that contain a tremendous amount of compensatory material that usually contradict or compensate the collective conscious ideas. You also did not discuss archetypes and how they appear in fairy tales. I recommend anyone interested in the feminine motifs to read Marie Louis von Franz "The Feminine in Fairy Tales". Sometimes your interviews feel superficial to me, and this was one of them. RE: Tarter's refusal to judge, I think this is a major problem today and part of our consumer mentality. Everything is allowed (ie. if you have money, you can own it), so there is a lack of discernment and moral imperative. If everything is okay, then we lose the boundaries and containers we need to be fully free. Thank you for your great efforts to bring consciousness into the world.
Excellent...I couldn't agree
Excellent...I couldn't agree more with your comments. Thank you!
Thanks, this was a great
Thanks, this was a great episode, got me watching 'Once Upon A Time'. Regarding your conversation about the Kindle reader, here is an explanation on how the product was named, Good to see that even marketing can be deeply inspired.
Totally enjoy your show.
Thanks for the link, Juan
Thanks for the link, Juan Carlos! Much appreciated, and I'll share with our Twitter audience too.
I am such a fan of this
I am such a fan of this entire program. I have spent countless hours listening to it while cooking, sitting and working at my desk, driving in the car, or just sitting at home listening with a glass of wine in hand. Just wanted to say a huge thank you for such enlightening, interesting, evolved programming.
I love, love the artwork that accompanies this program (girl running through an icy snowy field). Beautiful. And how did I not know until now that you have playlists for each program??
I listen to Onbeing all the
I listen to On Being all the time, thanks for the great show. My 3 daughters and I love Once Upon a Time, the fairy tales give everyone a reference point to the show. You don't have to follow every single episode to enjoy it. Those are two things that are missing in television today: family friendliness and the ability to enjoy a show with only occasional viewing.
As for Maria and Krista's assertion that we don't protect children as much anymore. They said that in the context of allowing children to see scary movies like The Hunger Games. This is true, kids see a lot of scary shows these days. But I think this is because children are MORE protected than ever before. Gone are the days of riding your bike all over town (with no helmet), swimming in the local mud hole, and close friends ending up in an iron lung. Children are protected more than ever, which perhaps makes the scary movie more tolerable.
I was surprised and confused
I was surprised and confused by Tatar's initial reaction and resistance to the plot of Hunger Games--children being forced or driven to kill each other--because it's not remotely new. Lord of the Flies has been on shelves for 60 years, and has been made into successful film versions. The novel Battle Royale has been around for nearly 20 years, and in 2000 it too was adapted into a much-discussed movie. It would have been--and still could be--helpful to hear what, if anything, sets Hunger Games apart.
Struck me in listening to
Struck me in listening to this (and maybe you got to it in the unedited version) that of the big themes in fables and the way that children perceive them, trickery and the cleverness of characters is so important.
Trickery is such a motif in everything from the Bros Grimm to Kipling's Just So stories (think of Rumpelstiltskin or Jack the Giant Slayer). Makes me wonder if this is non-threatening lesson for children about trust (i.e. you can trust your parents but there are those outside the home who will not tell you truth and who will try and manipulate situations) and also in the way these stories privilege cleverness generally.
I was reading the comments
I was reading the comments and I decided to copy one of these comments that truly describe how I feel about Krista and On Being:
I love you, Krista and have for the last eleven years. You have been a great inspiration and a resource of profound wisdom for me and, I am sure, for countless others like me who seek truth and meaning in life. Thank you, Krista Tippet from the bottom of my heart!
I started listening to this
I started listening to this show as an assignment from my college instructor, but I have found it to be very interesting, enlightening, and facinating. I found this show to be really interesting in that the use of modern tech to tell our kids the stories we grew up listening to. I never made the connection with the Kindle Fire with a fireside storytelling, but that is a great connection!
This was spot on with what I feel the modern telling of stories has become. I grew up listening to little red riding hood, the three pigs, and countless others. Disney then let me enjoy those stories by bring them to the movie theater. The first one I watched was Bambi, and it scared the hell out of me. It added a realism that I hadn't been used to before.
Great topic, and I look forward to listening in the future!
Enjoyed this program a lot.
Enjoyed this program a lot. Great stories will never go out of fashion, including so called fairy tales [the ones with depth] because they reflect the deep mythic fabric of the human psyche and the various ways these deep themes play themselves out in various cultures and times. They touch something universal and mysterious.
Following up on the interview
Following up on the interview with Maria Tatar and thinking about how current television is re-using these themes - I don't watch much network or cable tv but do watch a lot of PBS. I heard the clip from -forget which current show- where Red Riding Hood is afraid of becoming the wolf so builds a cage for herself. It made me think of a British cop show (Scott & Bailey). This week's episode had one of the detectives, a woman who had been terrorized by an ex-boyfriend, accused of beating him half to death. The night this happened, she had been drinking (again) and forgot what happened. She worried about what she was capable of when she drank, and whether she might in fact have done the beating. Turned out not, but definitely a theme I heard in this week's show.
Thanks so much for these great programs. You are my "church" on Sunday mornings, for several years now.
I am always amazed that a key
I am always amazed that a key mantra of the Atheist movement is that religion is only 'Fables and Fairy-tales'. And then, that that same group then picks up from their blogging to go spend hundreds per capita on what? Fable and Fairy-tale movies, cable, books, video games and on. Something obvious is missed it would seem.
I note that Krista's selection of clip from "Grimm" was very clever indeed. Solid show that will get a second listen.
I listen to Krista's
I listen to Krista's interviews whether I have an interest in the subject or not because I am always 'enlightened' in one way or another. Reading all the comments I feel like I am the only one who was terrified of all those 'Fairy Tales' as a child and still do NOT like those tales or short stories ( too much happens too quickly for me to absorb it in an orderly manner! ) Despite all that I did enjoy the interview. Thank you.
I think ending with "Happily
I think ending with "Happily ever after" is just as important as beginning with "Once upon a time". It makes a boundary around the story and places it apart from the immediacy that's around us. They are bookends. The "Once upon a time" takes us to the not-here, not-now, and the "Happily ever after" lets us leave it and come back, by freeing us from wondering how all the loose ends worked out. It's from the oral tradition apart from books, an equivalent of ceremonially opening the storybook as we start, and closing the book at the end. In theater, we have the house-lights to stage-lights transition, and back again at the end (or the curtain, in the days before such effective dramatic lighting). If you would take people on a journey to a scary place, you must needs bring them back.
Thanks for this ability to
Thanks for this ability to send a comment. I had not examined a Kindle Fire until Ms Katar's description of her 1st generation media; comparing the name to fireside storytelling! Please have her add this type of description to Wikipedia - it will connect Katar's point to a larger audience. To expand apps, I suggest having connections to a selection of books, types of groups, etc that have been discussed.
I am still enchanted by the
I am still enchanted by the levels present in most of the Disney versions of old fairy tales. The recent 'Tangled', with Rapunzel and her looooong hair was a major hit in my group. There is no age for enjoying a good fairy tale.


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Speaking of water quality, I suddenly noticed sub par results with Aquafina which had been giving me very good results for a while ... now just no discernable highs. So, I switched to Deer Park spring water. Why has water suddenly become so confusing to me when it never was before
I'd suggest Dasani. I'm pretty sure that aquafina is straight up reverse osmosis which means almost no minerals whatsoever which will lead to a flat tasting tea.
Dasani has a very small and ideal amount of minerals put back into the water after it's thoroughly filtered.
Poohblah wrote:Starting with the Sugimoto 88 Nights (Hachiju Hachiya). Would appreciate any brewing tips for this tea.
I tried "1:1" ratio - 5g of tea (half of the sample), 150mL of water @ about 150°F. Did not enjoy this . Thin body, bitter flavor, rough texture. Dry leaf aroma was not bad though. Subsequent steeps did not improve despite quick steeps and cooler water. Would recommend that others who are trying this tea try to brew in a reserved fashion - cooler temps, low ratio, short steeps, perhaps. Or maybe flash steeps at high temperatures. I simply haven't figured this one out yet. My usual sencha brewing technique was simply not cutting it for this tea. I will change things up when I return to this tea to see if it improves this tea.
edit: I think short, quick steeps at high temps may be the way to go with this one? still too early to tell. Will report back.
TommyTeaMorrow wrote:Got my package today going to keep them sealed until I can get a proper teapot to make the teas with, very excited to try them all.
Chip wrote:TommyTeaMorrow wrote:Got my package today going to keep them sealed until I can get a proper teapot to make the teas with, very excited to try them all.
Time is of the essence. What pot do you have to brew?
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On June 5, 2012, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton traveled to Batumi, Georgia, where she addressed the U.S.-Georgia Strategic Partnership Commission plenary session and delivered remarks at the commissioning of a Georgian Coast Guard ship. In addition, Secretary Clinton met with Georgian President Saakashvili and held discussions with a broad range of political actors and civil society representatives.
At the U.S.-Georgia Strategic Partnership Commission plenary session, Secretary Clinton discussed priorities of this strategic partnership and the steps that lie ahead. She said, "[T]his year marking the 20th anniversary of our diplomatic relations permits us to look back on all that Georgia has achieved in these past years and all the progress our two countries have achieved together. We have many reasons to be optimistic about what the future holds. And let us remember who we are working for. We are working for the people of our countries and the generations that will follow, whose futures will be shaped by the security, prosperity, freedom, and peace that we work together to build today."
Secretary Clinton then delivered remarks at the Coast Guard Ship commissioning. She said, "A strong Georgian Coast Guard will contribute to maritime security on the Black Sea and broader regional stability. Along with more effective border security on land, it will help crack down on the illicit flow of narcotics, human trafficking, and potential weapons of mass destruction. That's vitally important for Georgia, for the region, and the world. But that's not all. This ship and its sister ships represent the resilience of Georgia's national spirit and the endurance of your sovereignty. America stands with you. We will not waver in our support for Georgia and your territorial integrity."
Later, Secretary Clinton and Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili discussed a range of issues, including bolstering peace and security to promoting global economic growth and deepening democratic values, during their bilateral meeting. After the meeting, Secretary Clinton and Georgian President Saakashvili addressed reporters. Secretary Clinton said, "The partnership between Georgia and the United States reflects the energy, the entrepreneurship, and the dynamism of our people and societies. Secretary Clinton also expressed gratitude for Georgia's commitment to the ISAF operations in Afghanistan.
Secretary Clinton discussed meeting with leaders of opposition parties and emphasized their vital role in deepening Georgia's democratic development. She said, "The United States believes competing energies and ideas drive the democratic process. Civic activism, open debate, a level playing field, citizens's access to information are all vital as you move toward parliamentary elections and then presidential elections."
In closing, Secretary Clinton said, "The United States remains steadfast in our commitment to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Georgia within its internationally recognized borders."
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JetBlue Wins FAA Approval for Fly-Fi on A320s
JetBlue is on track to launch ViaSat's Ka-band satellite in-flight connectivity service this fall, after securing FAA type certification to begin installing the service on its fleet of Airbus A320s.
The New York-based airline has an agreement with Aviation Technical Services (ATS) to begin the installations on its 130 A320s. Both ATS and JetBlue subsidiary LiveTV will install the service onto entire JetBlue fleet through 2015.
"The ATS relationship will allow JetBlue to speed Fly-Fi introduction throughout our fleet," said Marty St. George, senior vice president of marketing and commercial strategy at JetBlue.
Several of the A320s will have the service by the end of the year, with the entire fleet scheduled to come online next year. The service will then be implemented on JetBlue's smaller Embraer 190 fleet, which are currently used on regional routes.
JetBlue expects Fly-Fi, its satellite-powered in-flight Wi-Fi service developed by ViaSat, to be capable of connection speeds of 12 megabits per second, which the airline is confident will be "several times faster than others out there," according to a spokesperson for the airline.


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Join Doug and Jeff on the Monday, 8/24 edition of The Renewable Energy Hour at 9am (Pacific time) for a discussion of solar-direct pumping. Pumping water in certain situations can be done much more practically sending DC power as it is formed by the Photovoltaic module or array straight to a DC motor, usually a pump or a fan. Leave out the inverter and batteries and pump when the sun shines as much as the sun shines. A beautiful fit. Elegant, simple, efficient and often, very cost effective. Lot's of time will be left for call-ins. A podcast link will be available some days after the airing.


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Here's how RW members rated this race in the past (41 votes).
In short: A one off race. Well worth doing, great day out.Date of review: February 5, 2013
In short: A challenge but very enjoyable - fantastic organisationIn full: The organisation was excellent, couldn't faut a thing! A challenging race due to the tough hills but runners were advised of this in the course profile. However you did get a real sense of achievement crossing the finish line. The Marsalls were brilliant and very encouraging. The t-shirt and free photo are great. Overall a very enjoyable day!Date of review: February 4, 2013
In short: When they say it's a hilly route they mean it.In full: This is defiantly a hard run, some of the downs are as harsh as the ups. Great setting, scenery and marshalling made for an enjoyable run with a big sense of achievement. The dry weather was a plus.Hope to do it next year. Date of review: January 31, 2012
In short: Tough but loved it - Marshalls were fantastic and very supportive. Date of review: January 30, 2012
In short: The Hills are alive...In full: Top race. The hills were, well, as expected - pretty tough.Generally loved it but will never get over the twits who run up and down the course.Date of review: January 29, 2012
In short: That was a Hummmmmdinger alright !!!!!In full: It was my first time but I'm all knowing now. Really friendly marshals all the way around the route and that's a compliment coming from a plodder at the back of the course. The uphill slogs were tough but running downhill felt just as merciless on my old knees. Mind you if it wasn't a challenge it wouldn't be half the fun! Love the T-shirt, fab design and great to get a free photo at the end, thank you. Only one low point and that was when a 4x4 type vehicle forced the female runner in front of me into the hedge. How rude was that from a tweed jacket wearing bloke? I guess he'd lost the plot after getting caught up with runners earlier on the road.Overall, a friendly event, superb location and excellent organisation. Date of review: February 21, 2011
In short: Hilly, challenging race.In full: Great organisation as ever. Great t-shirt and free photo.Hilly route that doesn't get any easier but I must be getting better as I managed to run both of the shocking hills this year. Marshalls are great and atmosphere lovely. The winners are incredibly fast and my hat goes off to them over such a demanding course.See you next year...This was my 4th year, as have done this race from the first one. Perhaps I will get an anniversary prize next year.Date of review: February 21, 2011
In short: hilly, fantastic, exillerating, beautiful and amazing friendly runners and marshallsIn full: this was only my third race and it was brilliant more donkey than race horse i loved it, it was very hilly and hard work but beautiful scenery broke this up with 2 amazing down hills!!! all runners friendly and supporting each other, wonderful atmosphere, the marshalls were great cheering you on all the way.would recommed this race to everyone just be prepared for a challenging but uplifting run.will be there next yr.Date of review: March 2, 2010
In short: Exactly what it says on the tin!Date of review: March 1, 2010
In short: check the course profile to avoid surprises!Date of review: February 24, 2010
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Microsoft Corp. plans to showcase user interface of its Windows 8 operating system sometimes in the middle of the year, a media report claims. The UI will be demonstrated on a tablet computer rather than on a traditional one, hence, may be different from what Microsoft prepares for desktops or notebooks.
The world's largest maker of software reportedly intends to show the user interface by the end of its fiscal year in June, which may mean that Microsoft would show it off at the Computex Taipei trade-show. The interface, according to BusinessInsider web-site that cites people familiar with the technology, will utilize some concepts from the Metro interface of Windows Phone 7. Other details remain unknown.
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The decision to show off the UI for tablets by the end of the fiscal year should prove market observers that Microsoft is on track with its operating system for emerging market of PCs in tablet form-factor. However, until Microsoft truly starts to ship its Windows 8 - or any other OS for tablets - to the market, the latter will be dominated by its direct rivals, including Apple iOS, Google Android, Palm webOS and others. Even though there are companies planning slates featuring Windows 7, those tablets will be special-purpose devices and not media tablets like iPad aimed at consumers without significant demands towards performance and functionality.
A well-known web-site specialized on leaking various builds of software by Microsoft recently reported that the software company was about to finish its milestone 2 (M2) iteration of Windows 8 development and the third (M3) phase would start in March, 2011. After the M3 is finished, Microsoft is expected to release public Beta-1 and Beta-2, then unveil a release candidate (RC) and after that assemble the final version sometimes in late 2012. The software giant reportedly plans to release the operating system in retail in early 2013. Some other rumours suggest that Windows 8 is due in 2012.
One of the key features of Windows 8 will be very fast boot time or even instant-on feature. In addition, Microsoft plans to implement various performance optimizations in order to make the operating system (OS) more responsive. Considering that more and more computers now integrate web cameras, Windows 8 is projected feature facial recognition technology. Also, the next-gen OS will likely leverage usage of Bluetooth 3.0, USB 3.0 and other high-speed interfaces.
Microsoft will target four PC form-factors – desktop, laptop, all-in-one desktop and slate. It can be expected that Windows 8 graphics user interface will either be customizable or will be generally very flexible to satisfy completely different users. Given that tablets are already getting popular, it may be crucial for Microsoft to release Windows 8 rather sooner than later.
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this is just a reminder about free foop friday that we discussed at the meeting. for those that weren't there we discussed the idea of giving away food that could be made form foop products eg hummous and bread, flapjacks, popcorn. just wee samples so not to stop people buying from cafe!
if you are still free to do this then can i suggest that we decide what to bring each of us and meet at the forest at 2.30. foop runs from 3-6.
i am happy to do some popcorn , sweet and salty. i have a friend staying so not wanting to be spending lots of time cooking while she is here.
could someone please make a foop section of bb please and move this forum there? thanks x


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Here's how RW members rated this race in the past (480 votes).
In short: Superb marathon to pop my marathon cherry :-)In full: I was on the bus that couldnt make it up the hill, but managed to thumb a lift with some random Austrian runners who drove past!! BIG thanks for the lift guys, seems I still owe you a beer!!Besides the bus issues it was a wicked race. The hills were a constant part of the race, though never a real problem if you do any sort of hill work in training.The post race meal with live music rounded it off for me 100%. I will be back to tangle again with Nessie in a few years I am sure.Date of review: October 11, 2009
In short: What a race! Scenic, great atmosphere and very well organised.In full: On the Saturday there is the pasta party and registration. The registration was very quick and didn't even have to queue. The event is sponsored by baxters, so not surprisingly the 3 course meal was excellent and there was plenty of seats in the Marquee. Now on to the buses incident on the Sunday. Buses were meant to leave at 8 but unforetunatley due to problems 3 buses didn't make it so had to wait 45 minutes till it got sorted. This did not dappen spirits at all. And I have to say I would rather sit in a bus for 45 minutes than have to wait 45 minutes longer at the start! Once w got to the start about 10am (when it was meant to start). We were informed the start would be at 10.50am which gave us the same amount of time to prepare as we would have had if we arrived on time. The start was buzzing and full of many nationalities. We got going and the scenery was glorious. Although it has a reputation as a hilly race, the first 9 miles are a net downhill as the race starts at 375 metres and at about 9 miles hits loch ness level. There is a long uphill about 4 miles but its not too steep then a short sharp up hill at 5 miles. Along the lochside there are quite a few undulations but generally pretty flat. At the 16 mile mark you enter Dores and also there was about 50-100 people cheering you on, it was electric! Before this you get the odd supporter which is apprectiated! But the people at Dores certainly turned it up a notch and left me buzzing for the next few miles. At mile 17 out of Dores there is a gentle uphill. Then the real work starts at 18 as the uphill goes a bit steeper and lasts about a mile. Then there is a gentle downhill from 19.5 to 21. At 21 there is a fair climb but its good in the knowledge it was the last climb of the day.As you get to mile 22, the first roundabout - the crowds start lining the street and as you turn in to Ness walk the crowds got bigger which was great. You then go beside the river to near the center of Inverness, cross the bridge and you are nearly at mile 25. You then run back along the other side towards the stadium which you can hear from quite far away but you still have to run round the stadium and then on to the running track for a sprint, ahem, hobbling finish ;-)The finish was amazing, along with the medal which the put over your head (the way it should be) , and the goody bag was full of useful post race food! Its also worth to note you can take a bag to the startline and then shove it in a lorry and its waiting for you at the finish! Also good if the weather changes on the way to the start!Overall an excellent race and a nice shiny new PB for me :-) I would advise any one doing this race to do plently of hillwork, and include plenty of hills on your long runs and try and make the toughest hills at the end of your long run. I was very comfertable going up the hills and overtook a lot of people walking/slow running up the hills between 17-21.5 miles.If there is a more scenic marathon in the UK please please please let me know!Date of review: October 10, 2009
In short: Enjoy a bus journey through great scenery to the start, and then run back alongside the Loch. More than just a run, it's an experience.In full: Because this race starts in the middle of nowhere, there is only one way to go and that is head for Inverness. You can't go wrong here because if you slow down you can enjoy the scenery more, but if you speed up you can achieve a PB. It's undulating and on reflection it could be a race to run a slower first half. The up hill stretches more than make up for the speed you are tempted to clock on the down hills. In other words keep a steady pace rather than trying to gain time by over doing it on the descents. Gordon Ross' suggestion of an out and back course would deny runners the sense of achievement of running the 24 mile length of the Loch. There is little room for improving this race. The entrance to the stadium is a very sharp right, with a kerb. I cramped up here and it really breaks the pace you have worked hard to achieve. Perhaps using the main entrance and shifting the finish line to the opposite end of the track might make for a more polished finale. Also there were very few toilets at the finish. Perhaps a couple of portaloos in the runners enclosure would relieve the problem! The expo was rubbish. Runners are on the hunt for free stuff....that's why we go to the expo's. Not a lot on offer here except over priced running gear...including the sale rail where you'd expect some bargains.It is more than a run. The bus journey, the pasta party, the post race meal, the location, traveling to Inverness by train (great to see snow so early) and a course that only occasionally can accommodate the crowds, simply because it is in somewhat of a wilderness. Make a weekend of it if you go and savour the event.Date of review: October 10, 2009
In short: Very special - will remember this for a long timeIn full: As a relative newcomer to running in general and particularly with this being my first ever marathon, I had felt a certain amount of trepidation before this event. I needn't have worried - apart from the bus situation ('nuff said already, I don't need to say any more) this has been the best event I've entered so far. From the very friendly and supportive fellow runners (with special thanks to my hostel room-mates Liz and Anne, you know who you are, ladies!) to the efficient and smooth organisation, to the course itself. I loved it - perfect weather, beautiful scenery, supportive locals, even the two-mile hill couldn't dampen my spirits (even if it did kill my quads!) And as the final bonus I smashed my target time and finished in 3.45 (and I could have shaved a couple of seconds off this if I hadn't slowed to high-five the gorilla! Cheers mate - really made me smile when I needed it most! :D ) All in all, a near-perfect day - I'm sure this has spoiled me for other events. I will certainly be back in a couple of years!Date of review: October 9, 2009
In short: A great race, in beautiful place as long as you run at the right pace. Marshalls, other runners and the spectators were very supportive. The weather was close to perfect. I just tried running too fast in the first half of the race, and paid for it.Date of review: October 9, 2009
In short: Great scenery, great people, great race, great tim had by all.In full: Apart from a mess up by the bus companies it was a very well organised event and one which i am glad to call my very first marathon.Ill be back.Date of review: October 9, 2009
In short: Fun, Fab & Fantastic!!!In full: Exceptional marathon in every sense. My 2nd Loch Ness (and 2 PB's - so can't be that bad!)- and it won't be the last. A big thank you to all the helpers/marshalls who were very friendly and encouraging. Great scenery.Goodie bag & medal were brill, too. Tee shirt was nice, but would prefer a technical tee even if it means paying a higher price for entry. Well done Baxters - see you next year :o)Date of review: October 8, 2009
In short: Very enjoyable and great value for money. Organisation was excellent, the late bus arrival being only a minor irritation.Date of review: October 7, 2009
In full: Perfect weather , Stunning scenery , well organised except for the buses from inverness and the one in front of ours breaking down .Thank you to all the villagers young and old for your support and especially the old lady who gave me some jelly babies at 23 miles !see you next year .Date of review: October 7, 2009
In short: Great scenery spoilt by great incompetenceIn full: As background information to my comments, I would like to point out that I travelled from Germany to do the race, and spent a lot of time and money doing it. So maybe you can understand if I am a little more critical than other people. 1. There was no record of my pasta party ticket which I had ordered. fair enough.......these things happen.2. The bus fiasco. I guess you have heard enough about this, but my comment is simply this: couldn't they of sent someone around the buses informing us of the problem? Would that have been so difficult? We waited for over an hour. The toilet on the bus was full and disgusting and........well, you know.........Why use buses at all? Why not start and finish at the stadium? Out and back course? Is it because of traffic regulations? Other cities manage it!3. I informed the organizers when I entered the race that I had my OWN Champions Chip. Imagine my surprise when I found another race Chip in my race envelope despite this. I had already had so much hassle and was so tired I couldn't be bothered to report this, so I just ran with BOTH chips.......thinking that I couldn't go wrong........but I was wrong..........you guessed it.....4. There are no race results and consequently no photos for me. I have no idea why. I had 2 chips and neither seemed to have worked. HmmmmmmAll these problems in themselves are not SERIOUS I guess(except for the buses fiasco)and I am fully aware how hard it is to organize a biggish race, but taken all in all, they were more than annoying. I wouldn't do the race again because of them. There were positive aspect of course - above all the scenery, the bagpipes and the excellent food but the organizational incompetence (which I have never experienced in any other race) unfortunately put the dampeners on those aspects. Date of review: October 7, 2009
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Debates of April 23rd, 2004
House of Commons Hansard #40 of the 37th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was foreign.
- Criminal Code
- National Volunteer Week
- Liberal Party of Canada
- Senator Gérald-A. Beaudoin
- Arts and Culture
- Vancouver Kingsway Constituency
- National Volunteer Week
- Fédération des caisses populaires acadiennes
- Armenian People
- Agriculture
- Ethics Commissioner
- National Volunteer Week
- Burma
- World Book and Copyright Day
- Health
- High School Graduations
- The Environment
- Government Contracts
- Sponsorship Program
- Government Contracts
- Sponsorship Program
- Government Contracts
- Apparel Industry
- Softwood Lumber
- Fisheries and Oceans
- Labour
- Finance
- Turks and Caicos
- Agriculture
- Equalization Payments
- The Environment
- Justice
- Official Languages
- International Aid
- National Unity Fund
- Aboriginal Affairs
- Public Service
- Government Response to Petitions
- Committees of the House
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- Questions on the Order Paper
- Question No. 64
- Criminal Code
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Criminal Code
Government Orders
10:55 a.m.
Canadian Alliance
Ken Epp Elk Island, AB
Mr. Speaker, the bill talks about the public good and there is a bit of a definition of it. It says:
For the purposes of subsection (6), acts or material that serve the public good include acts or material that are necessary or advantageous to the administration of justice or the pursuit of science, medicine, education or art.
I have very little problem with it when it talks about public good including justice. Law enforcement agencies, lawyers and so on who are laying charges against an accused may have some of these images. It is legitimate. How about the pursuit of science, medicine and education? I suppose, to some degree, if one is training young doctors or nurses about anatomy, some of these things are not pornographic and they would be able to use that defence as having these things in their texts, et cetera, totally legitimately.
However I ask, and I do not usually use this word in my vocabulary but I use it now advisedly and correctly, what the hell is happening with arts? At what stage would the member say the public good is served by pornographic pictures of children in art? Where is the public good in that? I would like my colleague to give his impression of this definition.
Criminal Code
Government Orders
10:55 a.m.
The Deputy Speaker
I am prepared to cede the floor to the hon. member for Fraser Valley if he has a very brief response, but I would suggest that we proceed to members' statements and then come back to the issue of the day following question period.
National Volunteer Week
Statements By Members
10:55 a.m.
Wayne Easter Malpeque, PE
Mr. Speaker, this being National Volunteer Week, I rise to pay tribute to the thousands of Canadians who give of their personal time to volunteer to help their neighbours and communities.
In rural communities volunteerism has quite literally been one of the pillars upon which our communities have been built. The helping of neighbours and the building of our rural communities would never have happened and could not be sustained without the contribution of those volunteers.
All those who volunteer give of their personal time, time away from family and businesses. These efforts deserve recognition and appreciation. Those who volunteer in emergency services where they sacrifice their time when called, assume personal risk, not to mention the risks to their business. It was in this spirit that Bill C-505, which will ensure equality under tax law for all emergency worker volunteers, was tabled in the House.
I recognize, congratulate and thank all volunteers.
Liberal Party of Canada
Statements By Members
10:55 a.m.
Canadian Alliance
Deepak Obhrai Calgary East, AB
Mr. Speaker, Canadians in my riding of Calgary East are fed up with the Liberal government's culture of corruption.
What we now have is another abuse of taxpayers' dollars. In recent weeks, Liberal candidates have been spending taxpayers' dollars and not their own to buy votes. Between the turncoat member for Kings--Hants, the environment minister and the finance minister, they have doled out $225,000 so they can get re-elected.
Corruption, abuse of tax dollars and patronage are all becoming synonymous with the Liberal government. Canadians are getting sick of this.
In the upcoming election, it is bon voyage to the scandal plagued Liberal Party.
Senator Gérald-A. Beaudoin
Statements By Members
11 a.m.
Don Boudria Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON
Mr. Speaker, Senator Beaudoin recently had to leave his seat in the upper chamber because he had reached the retirement age stipulated in the Constitution.
Appointed to the Senate on September 26, 1988, he carried out his role as a parliamentarian meticulously and with great dignity. During his career he has won a number of distinctions, including the Ramon John Hnatyshyn award for law in 1997 and the Walter S. Tarnopolsky award for human rights in 2002, and has been an officer of the Order of Canada since 1980. Senator Beaudoin has written a number of publications on constitutional law.
We are sad to see him leave the Senate and Parliament, but we are all confident that we will continue to benefit from his expertise. He is a great jurist, a loyal Canadian and will be known as a great senator. Thank you, Senator Beaudoin.
Arts and Culture
Statements By Members
11 a.m.
Eugène Bellemare Ottawa—Orléans, ON
Mr. Speaker, today is World Book and Copyright Day and on April 26 it will be World Intellectual Property Day. These are two excellent opportunities to celebrate the contributions of all the Canadian creators who enrich our daily lives.
World Book and Copyright Day was created to promote reading, publishing and the protection of intellectual property through copyright.
World Intellectual Property Day serves as a reminder to promote and teach the importance of intellectual property as a tool for economic and cultural development. This year the theme is "Encouraging Creativity".
I encourage all Canadians to show their appreciation for the talent and passion that all creators invest in their works to enhance our cultural experience.
Vancouver Kingsway Constituency
Statements By Members
11 a.m.
Sophia Leung Vancouver Kingsway, BC
Mr. Speaker, I have had the honour to serve as the member of Parliament for Vancouver Kingsway for the past seven years. I want to congratulate all the residents in my riding, which is enriched by all the vibrant cultures in the world.
It has been a special privilege for me to work closely with many members of the community and various community organizations.
As their federal representative, I was able to seek government support in the areas of health, education, affordable housing, along with social support for families and senior citizens.
I was also able to seek government infrastructure money to build the Millennium Sports Facility and to rebuild the South Vancouver Neighbourhood House. Every summer I worked with HRDC to create 78 summer jobs for high school and college students.
Congratulations to the residents of Vancouver Kingsway for their efforts in making positive progress in their community.
National Volunteer Week
Statements By Members
11 a.m.
Progressive Conservative
Rex Barnes Gander—Grand Falls, NL
Mr. Speaker, as National Volunteer Week comes to a close I would like to take this time to recognize and celebrate the contributions made by all volunteers in our country.
National Volunteer Week is a time to say thanks to the 6.5 million volunteers in Canada who prove again that Canadians have the ability to give generously and selfishly of their own time and expertise in order to make the lives of others better.
Volunteers strengthen communities. Volunteering is an investment in our communities and volunteers are our most valuable resource.
Where would our communities be if we did not have the commitment of our volunteers?
Winston Churchill once said "We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give".
Mother Theresa once said "Small things done with great love bring joy and peace".
And a wise unknown author said "Volunteers do not necessarily have the time, they just have the heart".
On behalf of my constituents and myself, I want to thank all volunteers for their efforts to make our community better and to make Canada strong.
Fédération des caisses populaires acadiennes
Statements By Members
11 a.m.
Dominic LeBlanc Beauséjour—Petitcodiac, NB
Mr. Speaker, I take great pleasure and pride in recognizing the Fédération des caisses populaires acadiennes, which held its annual meeting in Moncton last week.
I also congratulate the chair of the federation's board, Roland Cormier of Scoudouc, on his re-election. Roland Cormier has served this movement with energy, dignity and great success.
Roland Cormier is a real leader.
In addition, the new president and CEO, Camille Thériault, will provide vigour and leadership in coming years.
In 2003, the movement had the best year in its history. This financial institution is essential to the development of Acadia and it is in very good hands with Roland Cormier and Camille Thériault at the helm.
Armenian People
Statements By Members
11:05 a.m.
Gilles-A. Perron Rivière-des-Mille-Îles, QC
Mr. Speaker, this week we witnessed a historic moment. The House of Commons voted decisively in favour of a motion recognizing the Armenian genocide.
Although the Minister of Foreign Affairs has tried to minimize the import of this motion by my colleague from Laval Centre, the fact remains that the representatives of Canadians and Quebeckers will have had the last word on the meaning to be attributed to this other tragic crime against humanity.
Tomorrow is the sad anniversary of the Armenian genocide of 1915, which claimed over 1.5 million victims.
The Bloc Quebecois sympathizes with the Armenian community and, together with them, we will continue to remember this event and remind future generations of it so that such terrible acts are never repeated.
Statements By Members
11:05 a.m.
David Kilgour Edmonton Southeast, AB
Mr. Speaker, our chicken farmers in B.C. are facing the very worst: birds with a seriously contagious virus have been found in 31 farms in the Fraser Valley and about 950,000 infected birds have been destroyed thus far.
Even birds from uninfected farms within a one kilometre radius of an outbreak are being slaughtered in an aggressive effort to end the spread of this terrible virus.
At times like these, farmers in Abbotsford, Mission and the rest of B.C. need to know that the rest of the country stands with them shoulder to shoulder.
Ethics Commissioner
Statements By Members
11:05 a.m.
Canadian Alliance
Ken Epp Elk Island, AB
Mr. Speaker, Dr. Bernard Shapiro has been chosen by the Prime Minister as the new ethics commissioner. His personal credentials seem impressive but we are singularly unimpressed with the method of appointment and the restrictions on his role when it comes to addressing ethical breaches of cabinet ministers.
The Prime Minister talks about the democratic deficit and giving more power to members of Parliament but in this very important matter, MPs are relegated to being as impotent as the furniture in this place.
Cabinet ministers are shielded from parliamentary and public scrutiny. Questions about ministerial misconduct will still be dealt with behind closed doors, just like in the old Chrétien days. Where is the direct reporting to Parliament on this one?
This whole exercise is just another example of appearance over substance. The Liberals want to have it appear as though they are addressing the deep ethical deficit in this government but they are unwilling to do anything substantial about it.
National Volunteer Week
Statements By Members
11:05 a.m.
Gurbax Malhi Bramalea—Gore—Malton—Springdale, ON
Mr. Speaker, April 18 to 24 marks National Volunteer Week, an occasion to recognize Canadians who devote their time and efforts to their fellow citizens. These dedicated volunteers are living examples of the value Canadians place on caring for their communities.
With increasing demands on people's time, it is important to salute the efforts of those who fit participation and service to others into their busy schedules. The Government of Canada supports volunteering through its Canada volunteerism initiative.
From boardrooms to soup kitchens, volunteers serve our communities in many ways. They coach our children, visit the elderly and help new Canadians adapt to our society.
On behalf of the Government of Canada, I want to thank Canada's 6.5 million volunteers.
Statements By Members
April 23rd, 2004 / 11:05 a.m.
Pat Martin Winnipeg Centre, MB
Mr. Speaker, I rise today to condemn, in the strongest possible terms, the government of Burma for the prosecution and the subsequent sentencing to death of nine Burmese workers on charges of high treason. The charges brought against these individuals are on the grounds of making contact with the United Nations International Labour Organization.
One defendant received the death sentence for having been found to be in possession of a report of the ILO on forced labour in Burma. I had the honour of working on the ILO document, as did the Minister of Labour for Canada.
The prosecution of individuals for making contact with the ILO is a violation of fundamental human rights. We highlight the blatant hypocrisy of the Burmese government that pledged to work with the ILO to stamp out forced labour while prosecuting individuals on the grounds of treason for making contact with a UN agency.
The Burmese authorities must drop the charges of high treason against these workers and ensure that they are released from prison.
I urge our Minister of Labour and our Minister of Foreign Affairs--
Statements By Members
11:10 a.m.
The Speaker
The hon. member for Rosemont—Petite-Patrie.


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Official *What did you get in the mail today?* Thread!!!
My upton tea import order arrived!
I'm quite happy how quickly the tea arrived (priority shipping) for $4 ish shipping price. I wish they had smaller sizes, but happy they have samples sizes to try!
Got my first order from Imperial Tea Court today, a nice collection. The Purple Bamboo is delightful, the dry leaves smell like dried granny smith apples.
My Order:
Jin Hao Li Cha – 1oz(28g)
Liu An Gua Pian – 1oz(28g)
Superior Hojicha – 1/4 lb(113g)
Organic Purple Bamboo – 1oz(28g)
Imperial Keemun Mao Feng – 1oz(28g)
Yay my swap from Courtney arrived via someone else in the part net building. Mailman tried to give my tea to someone else! But it made it back to me :) best part was it made for surprise mail in the evening well after we'd already checked the mail heh
Eeeee! I got my first David's Tea order! Chocolate Rocket, Salted Caramel, Forever Nuts, and Toasted Marshmallow. I'm so excited. _
Yay! I got my first whole package of blueberry cream cheese danish by 52teas!
My first utopia order came in, I'm excited about the 1oz packages they gave me for free with my order, they sound yummy.
Roasted Almond Cookie [4oz]
Assam CTC [sample]
Irish Breakfast [sample]
Toffee Chocolate Hazelnut [1oz]
Chocolate Strawberry Saffron [1oz]
I also apparently won a brew over ice tumbler in a contest of some sort from Green Mountain Coffee. This will be nice for ice tea this summer so the timing couldn't have been better.
Yesterday was great mail day! I got my swap from whatshesaid and my order from 52teas! Woop!
Yesterday I received my boysenberry and cotton candy matcha from Red Leaf Tea!
I also got the small tin for each one. I had to open the foil packages up immediately to smell.
They both smell divine! I went with a boysenberry for an icy frappe at breakfast. So yummy!
Mandala order!!!
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Norma,According to Amazon, at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00168ACUI/?tag=pmak-20, it looks like the Alaga cane syrup product contains corn syrup as well as cane syrup.Peter
.... I wonder how Gene found those Nutrition Facts from MM since I am not able to find them. He must have a special way of searching. Have you had any success in clicking on the Nutrition Facts on MM main website? I havent received a call-back either from Melody about the links not working....Norma
Nothing really special Norma. When I clicked on the MM nutritional link, it didn't work the first time. An hour later that pdf came up and that was when I posted it.Between you and Peter, you have probably cornered the market on knowledge relating to molasses/cane syrup/honey/brown sugar/corn syrup and anything in between.My .02 position on molasses is this: Unless you are selling it as a commodity in bulk on the stock exchange (where it should be checked by the USDA before import/export), then you could probably put black food coloring with High Fructose Corn Syrup and sell it as a "food additive" No difference than we have seen with the adulteration of honey, olive oil, tomatoes or flour.Keep up the good work.
Between you and Peter, you have probably cornered the market on knowledge relating to molasses/cane syrup/honey/brown sugar/corn syrup and anything in between.
Norma,I hate loose ends so I decided to call Oscar again at Golden Barrel to get clarification on the matter of whether the Golden Barrel Supreme Baking Molasses contains blackstrap molasses or not. I mentioned to him that you had been told by someone else at Golden Barrel that there was blackstrap molasses in the product and that the information at Dutch Valley (which, it turns out, is a distributor of many Golden Barrel products: http://www.dutchvalleyfoods.com/vendors/7889/good-food) also indicates that blackstrap molasses is one of the ingredients in the Golden Barrel Supreme Baking Molasses. I also mentioned that the sugars were listed in the Nutrition facts at 13 grams for a 20-gram serving, which seemed low to me for a pure raw cane syrup. He apparently sensed that maybe he had given me incorrect information when we last spoke. So, he checked with a colleague who told him that there is indeed blackstrap molasses in the Golden Barrel Supreme Baking Molasses. It represents 10% of the product. So, you were right after all. Since I had Oscar's attention, I decided to also ask him whether Golden Barrel makes a pure raw cane syrup (I did not see it in the Dutch Valley list of Golden Barrel products). He said that he didn't think so but that they could package some pure raw cane syrup if someone wanted it. I asked him what the sugars would come to for such a product and, after doing some calculations, he said 13.4 grams for a 20-21 gram serving (about a tablespoon). When I mentioned that that still seemed to be a bit low for a pure raw cane syrup, he said that the sugars numbers for pure raw cane sugar and molasses in general can vary somewhat based on the particular lot of raw cane from which the cane juice is extracted, weather related conditions and other factors. Plus the numbers are subject to rounding that can make comparisons somewhat more difficult. Until you make a pizza at market tomorrow using the Golden Barrel dough formulation (MM#6) I came up with we will not know whether you will get the desired degree of sweetness. Blackstrap molasses has the lowest level of sugars of the various forms of molasses but will have the most pronounced (almost bitter) taste of all the molasses forms. The color of the dough and pizza crust/crumb might also be a bit darker but perhaps not greatly so because it is only used at 10%.So, there you have it.Peter
I really dont think there will be any sweetness in the crust tomorrow, but will wait and see. I could be wrong on that too.
Norma,I took the amount of the Golden Barrel Supreme Baking Molasses in the MM#6 formulation I gave you and calculated a sucrose equivalency of the constituent sugars in the Golden Supreme Baking Molasses (sucrose, fructose and glucose). The purpose of the exercise was to arrive at an overall sweetness value in relation to sucrose, or ordinary table sugar. The value I got was 6.6%. That would be like saying that you used 6.6% table sugar in your MM#6 dough instead of the Golden Barrel Supreme Mixing Molasses. If my calculation is correct, the question becomes whether you will be able to taste sweetness in a crust with 6.6% sucrose equivalency. I did a similar calculation but with the assumption that the Golden Barrel Supreme Baking Molasses was 100% pure cane syrup, which was the assumption I was laboring under untill I spoke with Oscar today, and the sucrose equivalency value is 7.7%. For comparison purposes, I did a similar calculation for the recent MM clone dough formulation with 5.5% Steen's 100% pure cane syrup and 6% Grandma's Original molasses and got a sucrose equivalency of 8.13%. As you may recall, I clearly detected sweetness in the finished crust with that particular combination of sweeteners. The corresponding value for my most recent MM clone dough formulation, with 11.3% Grandma's Original molasses, is 7.9%. Unless there is something really unique about the Steen's product, I would expect to detect sweetness in the crust that is made with the formulation. But, like you, I will have to await the actual results. I have moved the latest dough ball from the freezer to the refrigerator compartment and plan to make the pizza on Wednesday. I also went back to the MM clone dough formulation where I used 6% honey and 7% Grandma's Original molasses, and the sucrose equivalency I calculated is 7.7%. That combination also produced detectible sweetness in the finished crust. The above calculations were based on the percents given for molasses and honey at the bottom of November's post at Reply 4 at http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,1272.msg31890/topicseen.html#msg31890, and also the relative sweetness data given at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Relativesweetness.png. No doubt there are nuances of the various sweeteners that can't be captured by my calculations but I wouldn't know how to account for them. Remember, also, that part of our experiments is to determine if salt levels affect the sensation of sweetness. Peter
Sorry, to make you explain so much. I should have known you know what you are doing, when figuring out how everything fits for sweetness.
Norma,Actually, I am glad that you raised the issue of sweetness. I had never done any sucrose equivalency calculations before although I had kicked around the thought several times before especially since everyone can relate to the sweetness that sucrose imparts to things. I'm not sure whether sucrose equivalency is a good tool but it might allow us to compare different kinds and quantities of sweeteners and sweetener combinations in the same language (sucrose). I suspect that there are also other factors like ash content and the different fermentation rates of different kinds of sweeteners that might affect residual sugars and the final sweetness and taste of the finished crust. There is also conversion of starch to sugars that can affect residual sugar levels. It perhaps helps that the MM clone doughs are frozen and even after defrosting and tempering at room temperature don't get a great deal of fermentation. That might allow more of the added sweeteners to remain as residual sugars in the dough at the time of baking.Peter
Wow, Norma... That last crumb shot looks exactly like the dough that I remember from the mellow mushroom. I ate at one a few years ago in Asheville NC. Nailed it! The dough has the right color, and while I can't sink my teeth in it from up here in NH, looks like you got the texture right. Good job to all who have labored on this clone.
Norma,I'm glad that the MM#6 clone dough formulation with the Golden Barrel Supreme Baking Molasses worked out so well for you. It sounds like you hit a home run. If you decide to sell MM clone pizzas at market, it will be interesting to see how your customers react to them, especially since there are no Mellow Mushroom stores in Pennsylvania where they might have had MM pizzas before and know what to expect. I can see it now: Norma's MM Pizza Clones (you can whisper in the ears of your customers what the "MM" stands for). There are a couple of notable aspects of your recent results that I think bear mentioning and discussing:First, it is possible that MM is using a product like the Golden Barrel Supreme Baking Molasses. If so, and especially with the word "molasses" on their containers as received from their supplier, they perhaps could legitimately refer to the product as molasses, even though it is mostly pure cane syrup. It is also possible that MM is using a 100% pure cane syrup, such as the Steen's 100% Pure Cane Syrup, and maybe even a product like the Grandma's Original molasses. Steen's does not call its product "molasses", as does Grandma's, but both products seem to be equivalent to the "open kettle" molasses that smaller producers make and call "molasses". As you know, my last experiment using a combination of Steen's and Grandma's Original Molasses did produce noticeable sweetness although the salt level (more on this below) was reduced from prior experiments. I can even conceive of the possibility that the Steen's or the Grandma's Original molasses being combined with another molasses product, including a small amount of blackstrap molasses. The good news for home pizza makers is that all three of the above products can be purchased at the retail level, either in selected stores or by mail order. Golden Barrel also sells their Golden Barrel Supreme Baking Molasses at their website at http://www.goldenbarrel.com/blackstrap-baking-molasses.php. Second, while the reduced salt level may have played a role in getting the desired degree of sweetness in the finished crust, it may be necessary to conduct a further experiment with the previous level of salt that we were using--around 2% or maybe even a bit higher. It is possible, for example, that the sweetness of the crust that you detected was due solely, or principally, to the Golden Barrel Supreme Baking Molasses and not to the reduced salt level. The only way to know for sure is to repeat the MM#6 clone dough formulation but keep everything the same but for the salt, which would be at around 2% or maybe even a bit more (but not so much as to make the crust too salty and unenjoyable). You might be interested in knowing that after I posted on my recent simple kitchen salt/molasses experiment, I recalled a couple of instances where the salt/sugar matter was discussed or where I thought that the salt level may have affected sweetness. The first instance involved the salt/sugar relationship and the proper balance of salt and sugar in a Papa John's clone sauce that I devised solely by taste based on a PJ sauce ingredients list. You can read about that example, and the interesting an informative exchange I had with member November on the subject, at Replies 1-4 and Replies 10-12, starting at http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,6633.msg56932.html#msg56932. November even went so far as to set forth a typical ratio of sugar and salt (about 5.9 to 1, in Reply 11) to achieve a balanced condition in the sauce. Out of curiosity, I calculated the same ratio of the Golden Barrel Supreme Baking Molasses and salt for the MM#6 clone dough formulation and it is 5.6 to 1 (this is after deducting the weight of water in the Golden Barrel Baking Molasses). Of course, the ratios may mean different things in a sauce as opposed to a dough, but the relationship is something that might be considered when one is making a sauce or a pizza dough. The second example involves a clone of a Papa John's dough that member Randy came up with, and which I described in the opening post in the thread at http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,1707.msg15310.html#msg15310. You will note that the dough formulation I posted there has a total of 9.8% sweeteners (5.3% raw sugar and 4.5% honey, both of which have above average sweetness). Yet, as you will note from the last paragraph of that post, I made the observation that the crust of the finished pizza did not strike me as being sweet. Instead, I attributed the deficiency of sweetness to other ingredients masking the sweetness. But, if you go back to the formulation, you will see that it includes 3.3% salt, which is far in excess of what most pizza doughs use. It is hard to say that it was the high salt level that was the culprit after all, but it may have played a material role in masking at least some of the sweetness.As for possible tweaks to the MM#6 clone dough formulation, I'd rather wait for the time being pending the results of my most recent experiment with all Grandma's Original molasses and the even further reduced salt level. But one tweak that does occur to me is to reconsider using some wheat germ in the dough. I have read reports from time to time where diners at MM units complained that they liked the early MM pizzas better than the more recent ones. The amount of wheat germ, which has natural Vitamin E or its equivalent, might be quite small, maybe an amount that is equivalent to the amount of wheat germ normally found in flour before milling to make white flour, which is only a few percent. Peter


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Forest fires burning in Northern California have hampered the efforts of Oregon environmental scientists studying a northern California ecosystem. The Medford Mail Tribune reports scientists with the Klamath Network were forced to leave Lassen Volcanic National Park when fire burned a 43-square-mile area of the park.
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2009 Country Reports on Human Rights PracticesAbout the Author: Charles Sellers serves as a Political Officer at the U.S. Embassy in La Paz, Bolivia.
On March 11, 2010, the State Department released the 2009 version of the annual Human Rights Reports. Last December, in her speech at Georgetown University honoring Human Rights Week, Secretary Clinton discussed the meaning of our human rights mission. She affirmed the principles in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which state that people must be free from the oppression of tyranny, torture, discrimination, and wrongful imprisonment, and she underscored that people must also be free from "the oppression of want -- want of food, health, education, and equality in law and in fact." Mandated by the U.S. Congress, the Human Rights Report speaks to these issues, and many more, including the right to free speech and a free press, the right to an independent judiciary and legislature, the right to a living wage, and the right to transparent, accountable, and responsive government institutions.
At Embassy La Paz, officers and locally employed staff work throughout the year to live up to this responsibility. We meet with a wide range of private citizens, non-governmental organizations (NGOs), and government representatives in an effort to provide a meaningful snapshot of the human rights situation in Bolivia. Much of the report is a collection of statistics and facts that dispassionately describe the human rights situation. Other sections contain information from brave people who choose to talk with us despite personal risks. Such people are the real heroes of the report, and they show that in all countries, even democracies, there can be harsh repercussions for speaking out against injustice, corruption, and discrimination. As Foreign Service officers, we travel across the country -- sometimes to remote areas -- to meet with people who otherwise would not have the chance to tell their stories.
As we prepare the report, some of the meetings -- especially with people alleging physical abuse -- can be emotionally draining. Others are politically and socially complex. Following recent elections, many in Bolivia's majority indigenous population feel they are being represented in the central government for the first time. We celebrate this change, but some complain minority voices -- in the media, judiciary, and other parts of civil society -- are being ignored in the process. We try to include both sides of the story whenever possible.
The annual Human Rights Report assures U.S. citizens that human rights are an important part of our foreign policy. The report also provides detailed information on the human rights situation in the countries with which we partner. Host countries -- including Bolivia -- do not always appreciate our unsolicited criticism. It's important to stress that our concern for human rights is not designed to create a false sense of U.S. superiority. We are equally aware of our own historical failures, even as we push to create a world where human rights violations do not exist.
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Jas U. in the United Kingdom writes:
Thank you very much for setting up this forum.
Please note freesarabjitsingh.com #freeourdad on Twitter.
I would like to highlight the gross abuse of human rights case of Mr Sarabjit Singh an Indian national facing the death penalty in Pakistan.
Mr Sarabjit Singh was convicted of attacks in a number of cities in Pakistan 19 years ago and sentenced to death and has been in solitary confinement. Until recently he was shackled. He is in a small cramp cell. He was unable stand upright and his health is suffering as a lack of exposure to light light.
Mr Sarabjit Singh maintaines his defence that he inadvertently strayed across the then porous border between India and Pakistan whilst drunk.
The court trial papers state Mr Sarabjit Singh is 'Manjit Singh' which Mr Sarabjit Singh adamantly denies. His identity has never been verified. Further no forsenic evidence has been offered linking Mr Sarabjit Singh to the attacks.
His trial was in English - Mr Sarabjit Singh does not speak English. The prosecution has retracted and changed his evidence several times, before, during and after the trial.
Both my country (the UK) and the USA are actively involved in restoring peace and order in the region and canvassing the support and assistance of Pakistan in doing so. Our countries must take the holistic approach and insist Pakistan addresses its appalling record on human rights generally and more specifically release and return Mr Sarabjit Singh to his children (whom has not seen since they were babies), his wife and sister in India. Our respective countries should intervene in this case. Please visit and sign the online petition. Thank you.
Dr. Satish K.B. in USA writes:
I am glad you have the blog set up for the Human rights. This often in the developed countries is taken for granted,however in lesser developed countries, the record is abysmal.
One case I have been following is that of Sarabjit Singh. The man man across the India Pakistan border in 1990, a very ill defined at that time. The man had a few drinks and went out for a pee and was apprehended on his return to his house. However, then he was implicated in couple of bombings in another city. His presence in the city was not verified and his own name was mistaken- a case of mistaken identity- did not bother the police. They needed a warm body from outside Pakistan. The courtesy of providing a competent lawyer was dispensed with.The court proceeding occurred in English, which of course man the did understand, no translator was provided and of course he was convicted. Many petitions have been files, the death sentence has recently been commuted to life in prison.
So this man is in prison, barred from seeing his children, parents and his wife, Only recently his has been allowed to see him.
The Pakistan govt. needs to be told not only their own people but also people from other countries need to be protected from the Kangaroo courts and the wanton justice.


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I once met an American tourist who went to Siberia — and was peppered with questions about Joe Carter. Joe had made one of his riveting educational presentations about the African-American spiritual there, and had indelibly impressed his audience. His would forever be the glorious face they put on all people and things American. Joe's presence — his voice, his spirit, and his life — made the world a more generous place.
And I love hearing Joe's voice and sending it out into the world again — resurrection by radio. This program was special from the first. We sat in a spacious chamber where orchestras record — Joe and his pianist and I. And as we talked about the spirituals, Joe periodically stood up and sang to illustrate his points. We enjoyed ourselves immensely, and that enjoyment is audible in the final production.
It was revelatory to take this staple of American culture, as the spiritual has become — musical lines we can sing without thinking — and ask questions of it. It was painful to be reminded, foundationally, that this music had its genesis in slavery. Anonymous bards authored the body of work of some 5,000 songs that we know as the spiritual. Each song typically expresses a single sentiment or message, often born of grief.
These melodies and words, as Joe helped me understand, convey a sophisticated theology of suffering. It is a theology that leans into suffering — and in surrender, transforms and rises above it, if only in moments. Such moments are nurturing and sustaining. Human beings across the world have experienced this directly through hearing and singing the spirituals, generations later and in radically different contexts.
"The thing we find," Joe said, "is that in the midst of all of the most horrible pain, some of these powerful individuals lived transcendent, shining lives. They were able to be loving and forgiving in the midst of it all. Mammy was taking care of master's baby. She could have smothered that child. But she loved the child like it was her own child, because there was something in her faith that said, 'You're supposed to be loving, you're supposed to be kind, you're supposed to be forgiving — and there's no excuse if you're not…' The ancestors knew that the worst kind of bondage is that which takes place on the inside. And when we look back to the slavery days we were bound, but it was the master who was really the slave. And I think some of us understand that now."
I asked Joe whether he — himself a grandson of slaves — couldn't reasonably begrudge the way in which white Americans have appropriated the spiritual, embraced it as their own. But that question was mine, not his. In Siberia and Africa and Wales, he says, these songs speak directly to the human will to survive precisely when the worst has happened. They have become symbolic of a universal yearning for freedom — "that part of us all which says, 'I will not be defeated.'" We rebroadcast this hour in celebration of Joe Carter's gifts of wisdom and music that echo vitally beyond his death.


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Jacksonville Gets Over .500 for First Time Ever
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RIVERDALE, N.Y. – Jacksonville kept
its perfect Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference record intact on
Saturday by picking up a 10-7 win at Manhattan's Gaelic Park
in men's lacrosse action.
The Dolphins 2-0 in the MAAC and have now won three of the last four overall while improving to 4-3 which marks the first time in the program's four-year history they have been over .500 at any point during the season.
Senior Cam Mann (Hamilton, Ont.) and junior Conor Igoe (Columbus, Ohio) had three goals each to lead JU which held a 43-26 edge in groundballs and forced the Jaspers into 20 turnovers.
The Dolphins never trailed in the game after Igoe scored less than a minute after the opening faceoff. Manhattan (2-7; 0-1) would tie the game on three separate occasions, but each time JU had an answer.
Once the Jaspers tied the game at 7-7 with 6:47 left in the third quarter, juniorDavid Goldman (Baltimore, Md.) put the Dolphins ahead to stay on the ensuing possession. Igoe added another goal at the end of the third quarter and one more in the fourth as the JU defense held Manhattan off the scoreboard the final 21 minutes of play.
Junior Pete DeLuca (Millersville, Pa.) made 11 saves in goal and had a team high six ground balls for the Dolphins.
JU returns to action at home next Saturday against Detroit at 1:00 pm.
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