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Topic: 'require_frameworks': no such file to load -- openssl (RuntimeError)
When I run the "about" command or any other command in the script directory, I get the following error:
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-2.2.2/lib/initializer.rb:259:in `require_frameworks': no such file to load -- openssl (RuntimeError)
from /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-2.2.2/lib/initializer.rb:133:in `process'
from /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-2.2.2/lib/initializer.rb:112:in `send'
from /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-2.2.2/lib/initializer.rb:112:in `run'
from /var/emporium/emporium/config/environment.rb:13
from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in `gem_original_require'
from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in `require'
from /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-2.2.2/lib/commands/about.rb:1
from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in `gem_original_require'
from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in `require'
from ./about:4
Here are my configuration details:
Operation system: Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS release 4 (Nahant Update 4)
ruby version: ruby 1.8.7 (2008-08-11 patchlevel 72) [i686-linux]
gem verions: 1.3.1
The "rpm -qa" commnad on the system shows that I have openssl-0.9.7a-43.14 package on the system.
Gem list command gives the following output:
actionmailer (2.2.2)
actionpack (2.2.2)
activerecord (2.2.2)
activeresource (2.2.2)
activesupport (2.2.2)
rails (2.2.2)
rake (0.8.3)
I also tried compiling the openssl package in the ruby/ext/openssl directory by using the command "ruby extconf.rb" and got the following errors:
=== OpenSSL for Ruby configurator ===
=== Checking for system dependent stuff... ===
checking for t_open() in -lnsl... no
checking for socket() in -lsocket... no
checking for assert.h... yes
=== Checking for required stuff... ===
checking for openssl/ssl.h... no
=== Checking for required stuff failed. ===
Makefile wasn't created. Fix the errors above.
So it seems it can't locate the openssl package.
I will not be able to download to this machine directly so I "apt-get" will not work for me as a solution.
Would appreciate any pointers on how to address this issue. Since I am very new to ruby, would appreicate detailed instructions.
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For some odd reason, Zack decides that an alleyway is the perfect location to review this week's signature blend. A mix of chamomile, wild strawberry and sour apple named Indian Summer, by Tanya Laird.
Zack also suggests that if he gets 20 emails with the subject line "alleyway review", he'll do a future episode in an ever stranger setting.

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Issue Brief #3795 on Asia and the Pacific
December 6, 2012
December 6, 2012 | Issue Brief on Asia and the Pacific
North Korea announced on December 1 that, between December 10 and 22, it would again attempt to launch a "civilian satellite." The Unha-3 launch vehicle is the same as the Taepo Dong-2 (TD-2) intercontinental ballistic missile that North Korea previously test launched in 2006, 2009, and 2012. North Korea bragged in October that its missiles could "strike the U.S. mainland."[1] The U.S. intelligence community assessed that Pyongyang might be able to threaten the continental U.S. with a nuclear-armed TD-2 by 2015.
The U.S. should respond firmly to yet another North Korean defiance of United Nations resolutions. Washington should lead the charge for more comprehensive international sanctions against Pyongyang as well as the banks, businesses, and countries that facilitate North Korean nuclear and missile proliferation. The U.S. should also work with its allies toward a comprehensive integrated missile defense network in Asia.
Factors for Launch
North Korea may be driven primarily by domestic factors to test the missile outside its usual warm weather launch pattern. The announced launch window encompasses the December 17 anniversary of the death of previous leader Kim Jong-il and ascension to power of new leader Kim Jong-un. The failed April launch was two days before the 100th anniversary of the birth of North Korean founder Kim Il-sung.
Kim Jong-un may also feel that a display of strength was necessary to consolidate his power during the ongoing leadership transition. Although no signs of resistance to the power transfer have been identified, Kim has purged hundreds of officials, including Minister of Defense Kim Jong-gak after only five months in office.
Pyongyang may also seek to preempt South Korea's announced intention to launch its own satellite.
Counterproductive Impact on Elections
Nevertheless, the launch will have significant regional and international repercussions. On December 16, Japan will hold national elections for the lower house of parliament, which will also determine the country's next prime minister. The Japanese electorate has become increasingly concerned about national security amid growing Chinese aggressiveness and North Korean belligerence. The country has been snapped out of its usual post-war complacency and is now more willing to confront Chinese expansionism and beef up Japan's military.
North Korea's missile launch is likely to galvanize voter support for the conservative Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) and its leader Shinzo Abe to regain the prime ministership. The right-of-center Japan Restoration Party (JRP), led by Osaka Mayor Toru Hashimoto and former Tokyo Governor Shintaro Ishihara, will also benefit from North Korea's behavior. Since the LDP is expected to gain a plurality but not a majority, Abe would be more inclined after the missile launch to form a coalition with the JRP rather than remnants of the ruling Democratic Party of Japan (DPJ).
The impact on South Korea's December 19 presidential election will be more mixed, though it is still likely to bolster conservative candidate Park Geun-hye more than progressive candidate Moon Jae-in. Park, who currently holds a slight lead in the polls, advocates offering benefits to North Korea but conditional upon Pyongyang's behavior. Moon favors a return to the softer policy of unconditional engagement pursued by President Roh Moo-hyun.
Diplomatic Outreach Ineffective
Pyongyang is proceeding with the missile launch despite recent diplomatic entreaties from China and the U.S. North Korea has continued its decades-long quest for missiles and nuclear weapons despite several diplomatic agreements and numerous meetings and attempts at additional negotiation.
South Korea media reported in early December that a White House delegation made a secret trip to North Korea in August, possibly in an attempt to dissuade Pyongyang from conducting another provocation. This would be the second secret visit by U.S. officials to Pyongyang this year, following a previous one shortly before the April missile launch. North Korean officials also reportedly told U.S. negotiator Clifford Hart in September that Pyongyang would not resume its denuclearization commitments until the U.S. abandoned its "hostile policy."[2]
China has also been unable to prevent North Korea from conducting the launch. The day before North Korea's missile announcement, Kim Jong-un met with Li Jianguo, a member of the Communist Party of China's (CPC) Political Bureau, who was carrying a private letter from Xi Jinping, the newly appointed General Secretary of the CPC.
Regardless of Objective, It Is Still a Violation
Pyongyang's previous missile launch attempt in April 2012 was "strongly condemned" by the U.N. Security Council (UNSC), which made clear that in its judgment "any launch that uses ballistic missile technology, even if characterized as a satellite launch or space launch vehicle, is a serious violation of Security Council resolutions 1718 (2006) and 1874 (2009)."[3]
If the launch occurs, the U.S. and its allies should press for another UNSC condemnatory statement that closes existing loopholes and imposes additional sanctions on North Korea. The UNSC Presidential Statement passed in response to North Korea's April 2012 launch affirmed the council's "determination to take action accordingly in the event of a further [North Korean] launch or nuclear test."[4]
The principal stumbling block at the U.N. is China, which has been unwilling to rein in its belligerent ally. Deliberations at the U.N. will be a test for U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice as well as the Obama Administration's China policy to convince the new Chinese leadership to allow steps for responding to North Korean violations. Beijing obstructed or diluted U.N. responses to North Korea's nuclear and missile tests in 2009 and two acts of war against South Korea in 2010. After the April 2012 North Korean missile launch, the U.S. proposed that approximately 40 new entities be added to the sanctions list, but China vetoed all except three.
The Obama Administration should make clear that North Korea's defiance of U.N. resolutions will be yet another test of China's willingness to uphold international law. The Chinese foreign ministry's recent statement calling on "all sides" to avoid taking any action to "worsen the problem" is not an auspicious start.
What the U.S. Should Do
In response to a North Korean launch, the U.S. should take the following steps:
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North Korea's latest provocation should put to rest nascent predictions that Kim Jong-un would pursue a less belligerent foreign policy than that of his father. During Jong-un's year in power, Pyongyang has continued to threaten its neighbors and affirm its unwillingness to abandon its nuclear weapons.
The attempted launch in April scuttled the U.S.–North Korean agreement trading food aid for a moratorium on missile and nuclear activities. This month's launch will further postpone any allied inclination to return to the negotiating table with North Korea.
—Bruce Klingner is Senior Research Fellow for Northeast Asia in the Asian Studies Center at The Heritage Foundation.
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[1]Jack Kim, "North Korea Says Its Rockets Can Hit U.S. Mainland," Reuters, October 9, 2012, http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/09/us-korea-north-idUSBRE89819X20121009 (accessed December 6, 2012).
[2]Josh Rogin, "North Korea Rebuffs U.S. at Secret Meeting in China," Foreign Policy, October 15, 2012, http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/10/15/north_korea_rebuffs_us_at_secret_meeting_in_china (accessed December 6, 2012).
[3]United Nations Security Council, "Security Council Condemns Democratic People's Republic of Korea's Satellite Launch as Breach of Resolutions Barring Country's Use of Ballistic Missile Technology," April 16, 2012, http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2012/sc10610.doc.htm (accessed December 6, 2012).


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Friday, March 13, 2009
Bridal Consultation - Which Lip Color to Choose?
Happy Friday! Today is going to be a longggg day. I'm leaving work early at 4pm so I can make it downtown to make it to an Indian Wedding at 5pm. I'll be doing makeup for the bride, her mom and sister until about 8:30. Then I need to be at an all night sorority event from 9pm onwards...I need to get myself a Monster energy drink!
Last night I packed my train case...I have a set up at home where clients come for makeovers. Therefore, I pack my traincase only when I have a gig on location. It takes me a while to pack it because i'm so OCD. If you're on twitter you've heard me talking about it. The wedding is a traditional Indian ceremony lasting three days...so I'll be doing makeup Friday through Sunday. I also have sorority stuff all through this weekend. I'm excited though because Arabic style makeup is my fav!
Speaking of Indian bridal makeup, I did a consultation last week with another bride to be. She wasn't doing all out Bright Arabic Style makeup...she went more the neutral route. The eyes were really easy to do. The bride is actually going to have her entire face threaded so we used concealer on her eyebrows to mimic a "complete" look. The main issue we were having was picking a lip color. She's used to dark burgundy type lips but was open to trying out what would look best for the big day...I think we went through about 20 lip combos to see what I thought looked best on her and what she felt comortable with at the same time. Which one do you guys like? She's wearing lighter lips in the first two, and darker in the second two. I know which one I like but i'm not telling he he.
Have a great weekend bellas!
Atlanta Makeup Artist
16 comments:
- Fabulous World of Sara said...
i believe it depends on what she's going to wear... but i like the dark one more
- March 13, 2009 at 10:24 AM
- 梅子 said...
i do like the last onevery nice contrast with her skin .
woe she has such nice teath!!!
- March 13, 2009 at 10:30 AM
- Girl with Curl said...
I like the darker lip color better.
- March 13, 2009 at 11:01 AM
- Askmewhats said...
She's so pretty! I would say the dark lipstick looks better on her because it shows her teeth gets whiter more :) Oh yeah, goodluck! i hope you have the energy this weekend!
- March 13, 2009 at 11:11 AM
- For the Love of Makeup said...
Hey Renren!! what color did you use on the inside of her lid????
thanks = )
- March 13, 2009 at 11:12 AM
- jilliandanica said...
I like the darker lip. Good luck this weekend!
- March 13, 2009 at 1:03 PM
- Miss Yaya said...
i like the second and third pics
- March 13, 2009 at 1:22 PM
- Ethereal Prey said...
wait how do you thread your entire face? I like the darker color better, but i agree depends on what she's wearing. have fun babes, drink some bawls!
- March 13, 2009 at 2:20 PM
- MandaxLeslie said...
i like the bottom on better.. very pretty
- March 13, 2009 at 6:21 PM
- EbeautyBlog said...
I like the bottom pics. The lips color goes together nicely with the eyeshadow shades.
Have a nice weekend babe :)
- March 13, 2009 at 7:04 PM
- izumi said...
one of the darker lippies.. but if she's wearing lighter clothing.. maybe the second to top. i dunno, she looks great either way [x
- March 14, 2009 at 12:34 AM
- JENSMAKEUPBAG said...
oh i really love the darker lip. it goes well with the eyes. great job! and have fun this weekend!
- March 14, 2009 at 4:46 AM
- Rimi & Tanya's Weight Loss Blog said...
hey ren! can you please tell us what concealer and foundation you used on her?? it looks sooo great! also, what shade is she? i think im her skin color! thanks girl!
- March 14, 2009 at 3:06 PM
- Yas said...
Something about dark lips look so gorg on her. Both look so pretty, but I think I'm drawn toward the glam look with the darker lip. ;)
- March 14, 2009 at 8:18 PM
- yummy411 said...
top lip color! she's so pretty!
- March 15, 2009 at 1:28 AM
- ChyiX2 said...
I like the first and last one on her actually...The first one brightens her skintone and the last one complements the colors in her skin...did that make any sense?
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Athletic Director M. Dianne Murphy wasted little time naming a new women's volleyball head coach.
Brie Katz, who has been a part of Columbia's program since 2004, will take Jon Wilson's place at the helm of the Light Blue program following Wilson's retirement, Murphy announced Wednesday.
"We are thrilled to be able to appoint Brie as the new Head Volleyball Coach at Columbia," Murphy said in a statement. "Brie has worked extraordinarily hard building a winning program with Jon Wilson. I know that she will continue to elevate our volleyball team to the next level."
Katz orignially came to Morningside Heights as a volunteer assistant in 2004, and has held a number of different positions since. The associate volleyball head coach since 2010, Katz also served as acting head coach in 2007 prior to Wilson's hiring. Wilson retired on Tuesday after six years at Columbia.
"It was a bit of a surprise," Katz said of Wilson's departure. "As far as we knew, he had three or four years left before he was planning to retire. I know that his 60th birthday changed his perception of life a bit."
Wilson left behind a largely positive legacy, highlighted by a number of school records set by the 2010-2012 squads.
"Jon had an incredible, really successful run here," Katz said. "He transformed the program and I was fortunate to work with him and be a partner in the process. He's been a tremendous mentor and he leaves big shoes to fill."
Though the Lions suffered a setback in 2013—the team finished tied for last in the Ivies after a number of key players missed significant time with injuries—Katz expressed optimism about the team's future.
"They are in a very good place in terms of pursuing a championship," Katz said of her players. "They want it, they are willing to make the sacrifices necessary to do it, and they're together. We're a united front right now."
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Sometimes cat owners like to spoil their kitties with treats and even table scraps. However, what these owners may not know is that some food may negatively impact pet health, according to the West Hartford News.
A recent survey conducted by 9Lives found that almost 50 percent of feline owners give their cats little bits of human food. Unfortunately, this could be determinantal to their heath, the news source reports.
In addition, certain foods can be poisonous for cats, including avocados, raisins and onions, according to the media outlet.
Even though dogs can eat many of the same foods that humans eat, sometimes individuals do not want their pooch begging for a morsel of food next to the dining room table. According to ASPCA, there a couple of ways to prevent or stop this from happening.
If you don't want the habit to start, it is advisable to put a baby gate up and confine your pooch to a room or area in your home during mealtimes. Also, you can train your dog to stay in their spot, whether it be a mat or his or her bed, so that you can eat your food without your pup drooling next to you.


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beachape wrote:I've been told not to drink tea that has been steeped over night by some Chinese tea shop clerks and a DCM (doctor of chinese medicine). Forgot to ask why though. It is possible that leaves that are steeped over night (hot/warm not cold) could engage in chemical reactions that produce products unfriendly for the body.
Not sure about leaves alone. Just food for thought.
Maitre_Tea wrote: The next morning I noticed that the tea (a Japanese asamushi) had turned a dark brownish-green color. In a less brighter decision of mine I decided to taste it...and I immediately spit it out. I think oxidation plays a huge role in making tea go bad. Learn from my mistake...don't leave tea soup out all night uncovered


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DeWain A. Nelson
ALBERT LEA – Memorial services for DeWain Arthur Nelson, 82, of Albert Lea, will be 11 a.m. Saturday, Feb. 23, 2013, at Zion Lutheran Church, Albert Lea. The Rev. Joel Vano will officiate. Interment will be in Graceland Cemetery at a later date. Military honors accorded by the Albert Lea VFW and the American Legion.
DeWain died Tuesday, Feb. 19, 2013, at the Albert Lea Good Samaritan Society.
Visitation will be 4-7 p.m. Friday, Feb. 22, 2013, at Bayview/Freeborn Funeral Home in Albert Lea and one hour prior to services Saturday at the church.
Online condolences are welcome at www.bayviewfuneral.com
DeWain Arthur Nelson was born Nov. 4, 1930, in Redwood Falls, Minn., to Arthur and Lillian Nelson and was baptized on Nov. 23 in the Lutheran Church. He spent his early years in Winnebago, Minn., where his dad owned a bakery. He played the cornet in the elementary school band. During WWII, DeWain moved with his family to Vanport, Ore., where his parents found employment in the shipyards. He was confirmed in 1944 while still living in Vanport. After the war, he returned to Minnesota with his parents to live in Blue Earth. As a ninth-grader, DeWain attended Bethany College (high school). He graduated in 1948 from Blue Earth High School.
DeWain served his country during the Korean War in the U.S. Navy, and also served in the local National Guard from 1968-1970. After his honorable discharge from the Navy in 1952, he lived and worked in the Blue Earth area. There he met his future wife, Elaine Nagel, who was teaching in the Blue Earth public schools. They were married Aug. 1, 1954.
DeWain attended Commercial College in Mankato where he earned his Junior Accounting Degree. They moved to Albert Lea in 1955 so he could work in the office at Wilson & Co. DeWain worked there for 20 years and then became employed as a custodian for the Albert Lea School District #241 and the vocational School. He retired in 1992.
DeWain has been an active member of Zion Lutheran Church since 1955. He loved to go hunting, camping and fishing. In the 1960s, he taught gun safety to 12-year-olds. He was a life member of the local VFW and the American Legion posts. He is the past commander of the VFW Post 447 and earned the honor of all-state commander in 1969.
Survivors include his wife of 58 years, Elaine; children, David (Cheryl) Nelson of Albert Lea, DeAnn (Kevin) Sletten of Delavan, Dawn Dace of Albert Lea, and Dana (Natalie) Nelson of Glenville; grandchildren, Jeremy Sletten, Holly Raatz, Robert Sletten, Derek Nelson, Nathaniel Hacker, and Nicole Weis; step-grandchildren, Angela Lavalier, Rachelle Lavalier and Derek Lavalier; 12 great-grandchildren; sister Betty Cordes of Bemidji; and aunt, Sue Butler of Lamberton.
DeWain was preceded in death by his father Arthur Nelson; his mother Lillian Nelson Hacklander; an infant son, Douglas Dwight; his stepfather, Delos Hacklander; brother-in-law Howard Cordes; his grandparents; and many aunts and uncles.
DeWain's family would like to thank the Mayo Clinic Health System Albert Lea, the Albert Lea Good Samaritan Society, and the Mayo Clinic Health System Hospice for the care he received. Special thanks to Chaplain Kent Otterman and Pastor Joel Vano as well.


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Here's how RW members rated this race in the past (458 votes).
In short: Excellent prep race for London - The marshalls were fab (especially the Ladies).Date of review: April 6, 2010
In short: Being my 2nd 20 miles race before the vlm, I found it testing without being impossible. Loved the Hoodie and the scenery, not so keen on the hills!!! Missed the refreshments, but thats my fault as near the back of the race. Would recommend.Date of review: April 3, 2010
In short: A well organised event In full: Thank-you to all the marshalls who encouraged me round the course and made me get a better time than I thought possible.Couldn't have had a nicer time.Date of review: April 2, 2010
In short: Tough but rewarding. Very well organised. Great prep for LondonIn full: As someone relatively new to running I found the hills challenging but enjoyed the scenery. Liked the two laps - when you rejoined the first lap at mile 15/16 you knew the end was in sight. Didn't see the refreshments at the finish, that may have been because I finished towards the back. Excellent training for London though, a very well organised race and a great choice of mementoDate of review: April 1, 2010
In short: Another well organised running on a very lovely rural course.In full: Surprised at how good the turnout was and very good conditions. Organisation excelent as usual and the commemorative hoodie is fantastic.Date of review: April 1, 2010
In short: Challenging course, superb marshalls, well worth doing.In full: 'Undulating' really is the word - and not many flat bits in between! Supportive and well organised marshalls, lovely refreshments afterwards, nice scenery going through the countryside or the villages (and some welcome local support), well-manned and frequent water stations, great hoodie. Results were on the website very quickly and photos were also quick. The 2 laps work as the 2nd lap is shorter and follows a slightly different course - once you rejoin the first lap course you know you are really on the way home. And I don't even mind the short stretch through the housing estate at the end (keep saying "just 5 more minutes"). Parking was an issue - even the overflow parking was full and many just resorted to parking in the housing estate. Perhaps another overflow car park can be found next year. Thanks to Bedford Harriers and everyone who made this tough race so enjoyable.Date of review: April 1, 2010
In short: friendly people, good route, best memento goingIn full: The only downside to this race is the fact it is a 2 lap. The route is good, challenging but not gruelling. The marshalls are lovely and well organised. It is almost worth doing for the excellent hoodie memento. Good pre marathon distance, done it twice now and it will be on my calendar for next year.Date of review: April 1, 2010
In short: worth the journeyIn full: I came down from derbyshire to do it as a pre VLM having read the reports of what a good pre london race it was and I was not disappointed,the marsals where very good and gave everybody lots support.I was also able to pace myself with very pleasant young lady from London called Nicola who is also doing VLM which greatley helped me to keep to my pace time,hope you do well at London Nicola I hope I got your right as I have a terrible memory for names. The hoody is great even my daughter liked it well done for a great event. Date of review: March 31, 2010
In short: Very enjoyable, great marshalls and fab hoodie.In full: The race was fantastic, but why do some runners think it is ok to drop their empty gel packets on the ground? If you are so weak that you cannot manage to carry it to the next marshall (all of who had bins with them), then perhaps you should stick to sitting on your sofa on a Sunday morning. Running a 20mile race does not give you permission to litter the countryside, and it gives runners a bad name. Date of review: March 31, 2010
In short: Marshalls and Hoodie make the pain worthwhileIn full: The only thing that lets this race down is the parking, and we can't blame the organisers for that! The best pre-London race by far. Date of review: March 30, 2010
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I'm not sure what to think of New. I don't really dislike it, but I can't say I've really embraced it either. I'd say I like about half the songs on there. The one tune that really stuck out for me is "I Can Bet" with it's pretty catchy hook. "Save Us" seems like a tuneless throwaway rocker that doesn't really grab me. "Everybody Out There" fares a little better, although it isn't quite memorable itself. "Queenie Eye" is pretty decent even if the lyrics are a little too goofy. "Turned Out" is also pretty enjoyable...why was this one a bonus track? "Road" is an interesting track and "Get Me Out of Here" is utterly ridiculous. Paul's in pretty good form vocally although when you compare it to his previous albums like Memory Almost Full or even Electronic Arguments, he doesn't seem to be taking a lot of risks with his voice.
Overall this is a decent album, and I agree with the consensus here that a lot of these songs tend to grow on you.


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Originally Posted by MIKES MCS
Here is my solution, Want to go to a nice A show and not break the bank, Do you have a TB ? Do you live within a few hours of the KY Horse Park or the Virgina Horse Center? Check out the T.I.P. classes . You don't need a trainer , classes are $25.00 each .. there is a small pay back, nice ribbons saddlepads for champions, and you will be helping to build the future of the TB's in Hunters and Jumpers. If you have your own trailer even better. You can also help your own efforts by contacting shows in your area to see if they will host the TIP classes for 2013..
Nice throught but I'm waaaayyyyy in the wrong part of the coutry for that.
Originally Posted by FLeventer
I agree with you OP. I quit the hunters 8 years ago after a girl I was compeating against at my barn poured DMSO in my show boots because I beat her in the eq classes on the appendix qh that she thought was below her and her imported wb. I was devistated at the event and I had a sour taste in my mouth for the whole scene but that was the final straw.
I talked to my mother who was helping fund me at the time and told her I wanted less stress and to have fun when I rode. I went to an event barn and never looked back. No drugs at an event, no lunge till death, people that were nice, horses that were sounder at prelim then at 2'3 hunters, and people who knew how to take care of their horse. I was thrilled and I found my place. I was no longer the odd ball when I went for a hack outside the ring, dressage became a passion, and galloping over xc is an amazing feeling.
The hunter shows are extremely expensive. I would love to do the derbies but hot damn, the price is just crazy. I respect a hard working hunter rider, but they are few and far between. I feel there is a quick fix for everything and its just insane. Many go with the fad and not what is right for the horse at an individual level. Kids stay at 2'6 because they win ribbons there and the trainer doesnt want to bump them to the 3' division because they may get beat and mommy and daddy want the kid to win. There is a huge push for wins and the trainers feel it.
Its sad because very few get pushed or they get pushed hard and hang thier spurs up to go to college, never to ride again, but have kids who ride and push them the same way. The system needs to be reformed. Kids need to learn horsemanship, but many dont. They dont have time with school or the grooms take care of it. What medal final was it that the girls could not point out the poll on a horse?
Why do you think eventing has become more popular? We get the hunter castoffs. The people who want an ethical trainer or just plain want to have fun without immense pressure on what they are wearing, what brands they have, what breed horse they have, or what brand their tack is. Hunters is a huge financial undertaking. Trends change every year and the trendy things are expensive. People feel the need to fit in or they are told by bthier trainer to get a certin brand. We had meetings with our trainer every start of show season to tell us what we needed to buy in clothes and tack to keep up with the new trends. It made me sick because the coat/helmet I was told to have for last year was no longer in style.
The system needs to change or they can keep fostering the ultra rich and losing the middle and upper middle class.
DMSO in your show boots??!! Now that's meeeeeeeean!
Boy, can I ever think of some folks THAT could've come in handy for . . .
I just registered after several years of lurking in order to reply to the OP. I too, am bidding the H/J division goodbye. After years of making up my own TB's, breeding my own TB's, showing at AA, A, B, & local shows, I no longer can afford the $$$$ it would take to show at any of those levels again. Frankly, the sport has passed me by with the switch over to Warmbloods, the drugs, and the other changes. Flat classes are pretty much gone except for the schooling or local shows, and being in my 60's now, I really don't want to jump anything besides logs on our farm. I occasionaly peek at an entry blank for an A show and gasp at the stall fees, the trailer in fees, the non-refundable office fees, the association fees, and all the other fees tacked onto the entry. I still have a grandson of Storm Cat and a granddaughter of Spectacular Bid. Earlier this year I entertained the idea of putting the gelding in training at a H/J barn. However, when I added up the boarding, the training, the cost of trailering to shows 100 miles away, and all the other fees that would be tacked on, I just couldn't do it. I'm making him into a reining horse instead, my new discipline of choice. There were always wealthy people showing back in the day, but they brought one or two horses to the shows. Today one client brings a whole aisle full! Wealthy or of average means, riders worked very hard to improve their horsemanship and there was little of this riding only 2 or 3 times a week or handing the horse over to the groom after their lesson or class. We all spent a lot of time with our horses, and that seems to be gone today. Fortunately, there are many other disciplines to compete in that don't cost anywhere near the $$ that the H/J shows do. I come from a background of showing everything from western to Saddlebreds, so it wasn't hard for me to find a new sport. After all, it is supposed to be about the horse himself.
A post like this shouldn't open a can of worms. It's spot on and truer words were never spoken about the show world. I go to most of the schooling shows here and that stresses the bank. I've done a three A shows in the past... three? years and each time I look at the bill and just cannot even believe it. And then add on the cost of my trainer and it's just ugh. I'm just lucky that I keep my horses at home, much cheaper.
On that note why is it that so many people blindly listen to their trainer? My horses are NOT treated like pampered show horses. They live outside almost 24/7/365. The eat off the ground. My girls live in the same pasture. And (knock on wood) I have WAY less problems than many of the big barns I have seen. Sorry that was a bit of a tangent.
Wanna open a can of worms? Say this: "I just wish you couldn't buy your way to the top like many can do now." Now THAT will get people going LOL!
How funny...I have been a jumper my whole life. I recently (just over a month ago) switched to eventing! I am loving it (middleburg was my first event last week). I am competing at novicelate right now (though moving to training at VHT in a month).
I never saw myself doing this but just grew sick of the cost, ethics and schedule of jumpers here (I grew up in Switzerland).
I had a great first event and finished on a 32.5 for my first ever dressage test (with a horse who has never evented).
I love the bond with the horses it takes (and the amount of work involved) I love the no drugs rules, I love how the people are....I am hooked. I am hoping to move to prelim late spring and go from there.
I am on the dark side and loving it!
I'm so on the fence. I think I'm leaning toward the side of saying goodbye to h/j shows as well. The trick for me is trying to figure out WHERE we belong. If anywhere other than my backyard.
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Well written original post!! I did not have the guts to start a thread like this in fear of being bashed.
I bid the A-hunter world goodbye in the mid 80's.
I won't get started on the self-entitled trainer and pampered show horses thing.
What happened to Horsemanship? Anohterera said it all............
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I haven't shown a rated show since 1997. And that was the Foxhunters Series at indoors.
Did it all as a junior--on the road, Big Eq finals--and loved every moment of it (okay, maybe not chasing my last Medal day-in and day-out back when you had to be blue to qualify...). Won a state eq finals as a young adult and rode all through college. After school, I fell in with a foxhunting crowd and had a blast doing that, while still hitting some local shows.
My mother died the year after I graduated from college, and I used part of my inheritance to buy a fancy young horse, who developed EPM that was career-ending. After that I decided to not spend large chunks of money on horses, and stuck to the cheap ones. Besides, my money was occupied with grad school, then I got married and bought a farm, did more grad school.
I've come to terms with the fact that I do not have the money, time or horseflesh to play in the big leagues. I'm fine with that. I show locally, did my first event in 16 years this summer (and won my division!) and help my trainer put on a local show series. I have a new little OTTB to play with whom I adore, and we'll see where his best strengths lie.
I would much rather have fun at the locals and give back at the grass roots level than just be another adult ammy at the big A shows.
Life would be infinitely better if pinatas suddenly appeared throughout the day.
Rated shows - smaller and smaller it appears.
It is unfortunate the previous progression from C, to B, to finally A shows is gone. Learning and moving up the ranks seems now non-existent. Having goals and working toward them in a logical sequence, as all sports must have, is gone.
So, unless fundamental changes happen, we will have a vast majority of folks enjoying themselves at unrated local shows, clinics or just taking lessons. Whatever floats their boat!
The A shows will be a select few, competing against a select few, and I do mean few. A quick check of the biggest yearly A show in this area revealed that over 95% of the classes had 9 or fewer competitors, with most classes having around 5. No chance for any real growth for the sport, and the longer it continues, the smaller they will become.
Sad, as I really enjoy watching a great hunter round.
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Originally Posted by levremontf
How funny...I have been a jumper my whole life. I recently (just over a month ago) switched to eventing!
I love the no drugs rules,
I love the rest of your post, but I have to point out that the drug RULES are the same for Eventing and Jumpers.
It is the common PRACTICES that are different.
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Aren't they on FEI rules Prelim and up, Janet? Not sure how that works. They certainly use fewer drugs. No full "sharps" buckets at the events I've attended.
Yep, I' done too.
I'm kicking my horse onto pasture board and accepting that I'm middle class and can't afford to play in the big leagues. Heck, I'm lucky I can even afford my horse at all, and am tired of working 2 or 3 jobs to chase a dream that will never be in my financial reality.
We are going to ride for fun. I don't need to spend 3k to get a $0.25 ribbon just to feel validated anymore, and I'm going to ignore the people who tell me she's too nice of a horse to just putter around on.
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Originally Posted by fordtraktor
Aren't they on FEI rules Prelim and up, Janet? Not sure how that works. They certainly use fewer drugs. No full "sharps" buckets at the events I've attended.
There are FEI drug rules at FE Eventing (1* 2 **, 3***, and 4****) competitions and at FEI Jumper competitions.
At non-FEI competitions, the same USEF drug rules apply for both Eventers and Jumpers, regardless of the level.
It is the practice that differs.
I am 27 and have never been to a show as a viewer or competitor. A relative of mine owns a horse strictly to show and when she met mine, she looked at me like I was nuts for playing with her in the arena rather than "working". I waited until I was 25 to purchase my first horse, she is ten years younger and had hers purchased for her with brand name everything. I don't even own breeches but I make it work.
People always ask me what I want to do with my girl and I tell them I just want to have fun (usually received by odd stares or overly polite comments lol). The show world is not one I want to be a part of based on what I've heard.
Originally Posted by Lori
Well written original post!! I did not have the guts to start a thread like this in fear of being bashed.
Thank you. I'm absolutely blown away by the response. I fully expected to be blown out of the water with this post. It's nice (and sad as well) to know there are so many others like me.
Originally Posted by TannerS
The show world is not one I want to be a part of based on what I've heard.
Most of the people are great. It's the 'Industry' mentality that has sucked the joy out of it.
Originally Posted by Spud&Saf
Yep, I' done too.
I'm kicking my horse onto pasture board and accepting that I'm middle class and can't afford to play in the big leagues. .
This seems to be the general concensus. Lessons are half the price in my new discipline, and both the clients and the trainers are horseman first. The trainer said that in his next life he was coming back as a H/J trainer, because he could actually make money!
Of course this doesn't mean that there aren't problems. There always are. It's just much more affordable, LOL! And somehow that makes them easier to deal with, and levels the playing field somewhat.
Originally Posted by WB Mom
Rated shows - smaller and smaller it appears. . .
The A shows will be a select few, competing against a select few, and I do mean few. A quick check of the biggest yearly A show in this area revealed that over 95% of the classes had 9 or fewer competitors, with most classes having around 5. No chance for any real growth for the sport, and the longer it continues, the smaller they will become.
Sad, as I really enjoy watching a great hunter round.
This is exactly what I've been seeing. And the top couple of horses in each division (with the remaining lovely as well) are so spectacular that there is no way somebody just wanting to break in could realistically be more than third unless the those at the top make a mistake. It take s the joy away.
I know several people who have turned to Pony Club and 4H. The 4H Over Fences group in this area has essentially become our B circuit. The kids are well trained, and well mounted. The horses are terrific, but couldn't really compete with the A Circuit crowd anymore. My trainer and I have given a couple of clinics and I've judged for them a few times over the years, and each year the quality of riding is more impressive.
And here, the A Shows are lovely - the managers try hard, and they've done a great job of making them more exhibitor friendly. But that doesn't change the trend - the price is just too high.
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I feel lucky to live in an area where some of the schooling shows are actually really competitive at times - a lot of the area riders that show at rated shows come to these for practice, so I feel like we're getting some good competition for a mere fraction of the price. The classes are usually fairly large, and it's at the same facility that some rated shows are held. I still get barfy nervous because that's just how I am, but it's really a lot of fun, the people are nice, and it's so relaxed. You can show in black tack and no one blinks, and I don't feel judged for not having an expensive horse, tack or apparel. People are actually downright supportive of people they don't even know.
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Janet- yes that makes sens...I guess this difference is that there is an expectation of no drugs (especially for riders who want to be one a team, which my "mentor/trainer" does). I guess the whole way horses are treated is very different (at least from what I have seen).
They are treated a lot more like athletes and get the care to keep them sound not the quick fixes to patch them up as much maybe?
Don't get me wrong, I love the jumpers, but cost wise it's just getting crazy...and kids who can't afford to do the whole circuit can't make the finals for the most part because they won't get enough points.
Eventers have to actually learn to ride...not saying that jumpers don't, far from it...but the trend these days is that if you have the money and your trainer jumps your horses around in a bunch of classes before you get there on friday your sweet GP horse will cart your butt around the ch/ad or low AOs. I find that sad...I don't remember horses having to do a few "level" classes and a whole ch/ad/ao division years ago (especially not when florida now starts in January...
I have noticed very few grooms (yes of course working students to help the pros with a bunch of horses)... people seem to have a much more "hands" on approach in the care of their horses which I like, not so much meeting your horse at the warm up and handing it off at the ingate.
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