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Posted on 02/23/2006 6:47:11 AM PST by SWO
CHESAPEAKE - A pediatrician who asks a child's parent about firearms in their home could lose his or her license or be disciplined under legislation being considered by a Senate committee today.
The bill would prohibit health care professionals from asking a patient about gun possession, ownership or storage unless the patient is being treated for an injury related to guns or asks for safety counseling about them.
Sponsored by Del. Ward Armstrong, D-Martinsville, the bill sailed through the House by a vote of 88 to 11 last week. A message seeking comment was left for the delegate; he did not return the call.
The legislation is opposed by The Virginia Chapter of the American Academy of Pediatrics because it blocks a common practice by medical professionals to inquire about gun ownership and safety when they go over a safety checklist with parents during a child's regular checkups from birth to puberty.
"We saw the bill but presumed no one in their right mind would put it through," said Dr. Leslie Ellwood, chapter president. "We thought it was such an unusual bill that anyone with common sense wouldn't pass it."
The national group is closely watching the bill now.
Some local medical professionals are incensed by the bill and the rapid way it is moving through the General Assembly.
The bill also is opposed by several medical groups, including The Medic al Society of Virginia and nurse associations.
The National Rifle Association supports the bill because it will protect gun owners "from intrusive, unnecessary questions from medical professionals," according to the NRA Institute for Legislative Action Web site.
"We don't have an opinion or issue an opinion on guns," Ellwood said. "We don't say it is a bad thing to have around children. Our plan is always to find out how the guns are managed in the household so they are safe."
The national pediatric group puts out a guide on safety counseling for pediatricians under its injury prevention program.
The state-endorsed guidelines are used by not just doctors and nurses but by others whose jobs involve children.
Medical professionals are encouraged to use the routine safety survey to counsel parents about everything from car safety seats and child-proofing a house and backyard pool to bicycle helmets and fire safety once the child reaches the appropriate age.
Pediatricians use the checklist to curtail preventable injuries, such as poisoning by household cleaning products, not to be intrusive, say Virginia physicians.
"The bill hits at the heart and core of prevention and protecting our children," said Dr. Nancy Welch, Chesapeake Health Department director. "I am just amazed that it has gone this far and seems to be flying under the radar."
A board-certified pediatrician, Welch e-mailed three committee members from the South Hampton Roads delegation after being notified about the Senate committee meeting today.
Sen. Harry Blevins, R-Chesapeake, has a policy of giving each bill a fair hearing before commenting on it, said his legislative assistant, Karen Papasodora-Cochrane.
Sen. Frederick Quayle, R-Chesapeake could not be reached for comment.
Sen. L. Louise Lucas, D-Portsmouth, said she thinks it's a bad bill.
"I don't know how it even got out of the House because a person who is practicing the healing arts, if they really have a child's safety in mind, would ask that question and others," she said.
If parents think the question is intrusive, Lucas said they can always tell the health care provider: "It's none of your business."
Should the state disallow pediatricians from asking parents about gun ownership?
Yes 49.25%
No 48.88%
Undecided 1.88% Total: 800 votes
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Aww, I was kind of proud to check "Yes" on that question when I first took my daughter to the pediatrician.
So right now you if you bring your kid in for an ear infection, you're asked if you own a gun? To what end? And if you lie and say no...are you committing some kind of crime? This is confusing.
Guns? Sure, and we have a game where we spread them all over the floor, and the first kid to match up all the guns with the right ammunition gets to shoot somebody.
"We don't have an opinion or issue an opinion on guns," Ellwood said. "We don't say it is a bad thing to have around children. Our plan is always to find out how the guns are managed in the household so they are safe."
in otherwords we just want to control what you have in your home.
My six year old informed me last week that she wants a rifle for her birthday. I told her she'd have to wait until she's 9 or 10.
Another example of the government telling people how they can talk to other people.....
I was happy to open my coat and show her.
I have mixed feelings about this law. One one hand, it is an effort to counter the idea that gun ownership is a "health" issue, another tactic by which the gun-grabbers seek to marginalize gun ownership and legitimize further restrictions on ownership. To that extent, I sympathize with the law. On the other hand, it criminalizes the mere asking of a question, and to that extent reminds me of ominous trends in Left-wing legislation, such as laws prohibiting landlords from asking certain questions of prospective tenants. So this cuts both ways, in my opinion.
The odds of a child dying in your swimming pool are 100 times greater than dying from a gun.
Will the Docs ask about swimming pools, or are they just guilt mongers for the politically correct?
We need a law for this? What happened to the ability to say "why is that any of your business?"
The policy was designed on their part to make it difficult for gun owners in some small way, it had nothing to do with safety.
Personally I'm glad to see it go.
If the medical professionals had their way, we'd all be in superb health doing our state mandated exercise regimen in our straight jackets, protected from dangerous objects and harmful behaviors. If history is any indication, doctors and social engineering make a bad mix.
Given that medical records are going to be computerized and follow you around all your life, and given that health care could be taken over by the government and given that employers are now using health care information as an excuse to harass workers, be careful what you tell doctors about the legal activity of your personal life.
What business is it of a doctor to know whether or not you own a gun? There are a lot of nosey p.c. questions now asked by doctors that is none of their business.
Supporting the state mandating how an individual must practice his craft, and what he can and can't say - can cut both ways. Witness phamacists in MA being required to carry kill pills.
Either you stand for free speech or you don't and must accept majority rule setting limits or mandates on what you must say.
An outside issue is related to abortions, because state interest in protecting people from being killed, the state doing a really lame ass job of trying to prevent it by requiring information be shared is a reasonable temporary half-measure.
I've been asked this by my children's pediatrician as well as my endocrinologist. With my children's doc, I just replied that I refuse to answer the question. I was pressed by a nurse once and simply told her it was none of their business.
My endocrinologist asked me this on a patient information sheet. I just wrote a note that said "I fail to see how this pertains to the treatment of my thyroid."
I think the first reponse to such a question should be "Beg pardon?"
Then if they repeat the question, ask how this could have any possible relevance to the current medical situation.
If they come back with some nonsense about their being concerned for childrens' safety, just look at them like they're an idiot (a response that should be coming up naturally) until they more onto another question.
Prompt them with "Are there any relevant questions you'd like to ask?" if necessary.
Get her a Red Rider and be sure she learns to treat it like she would a real gun.
"Excuse me while I whip this out."
Should the state disallow pediatricians from asking parents about gun ownership?
You've taught her well!
I always just say no. But if they're asking kids that's different.
The only time I was asked this question, I refused to answer it. I later saw the doctor's checklist, and she had marked "Yes". Why she needed that on record-especially because it was already established that I DON'T have kids-I can only imagine.
And here I thought the left cared about privacy.
Didn't realize Red Riders are still being made. Thanks for the info.
Shoulder holster? (;o)
Part One: Qualifications
I affirm that I am certified to offer
(Name of Patient:__________________________________________________ ),
herineafter referred to as "the Patient", qualified advice about firearms safety in the home, having received:
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___ I represent that I have reviewed applicable scientific literature pertaining to defensive gun use and beneficial results of private firearms ownership. I further represent that I have reviewed all other relevant home safety issues with the Patient, including those relating to electricity, drains, disposals, compactors, garage doors, driveway safety, pool safety, pool fence codes and special locks for pool gates, auto safety, gas, broken glass, stored cleaning chemicals, buckets, toilets, sharp objects, garden tools, home tools, power tools, lawnmowers, lawn chemicals, scissors, needles, forks, knives, etc. I also acknowledge, by receiving this document, I have been made aware that, in his inaugural address before the American Medical Association on June 20, 2001, new president Richard Corlin, MD, admitted "What we don't know about violence and guns is literally killing us...researchers do not have the data to tell how kids get guns, if trigger locks work, what the warning signs of violence in schools and at the workplace are and other critical questions due to lack of research funding." (UPI). In spite of this admission, I represent that I have sufficient data and expertise to provide expert and clinically sound advice to patients regarding firearms in the home.
___ I am knowingly engaging in Home/Firearms Safety Counseling without certification, license or formal training in Risk Management, and; I have not reviewed applicable scientific literature pertaining to defensive gun use and beneficial results of private firearms ownership.
Part Two:
I have determined, from a review of my medical malpractice insurance, that if I engage in an activity for which I am not certified, such as Firearms Safety Counseling, the carrier (check one, as appropriate):
___ will
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cover lawsuits resulting from neglect, lack of qualification, etc.
Insurance Carrier name, address and policy number insuring me for firearms safety expertise:
I further warrant that, should the Patient follow my firearm safety counseling and remove from the home and/or disable firearms with trigger locks or other mechanisms, and if the patient or a family member, friend or visitor is subsequently injured or killed as a result of said removal or disabling, that my malpractice insurance and/or personal assets will cover all actual and punitive damages resulting from a lawsuit initiated by the patient, the patient's legal reprerentative, or the patient's survivors.
Signature of attesting physician and date:
Name of attesting physician (please print):
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Then change doctors, tell them why and make a report to the Medical association saying they have included knowingly false information in your file.
While at the doctor with my daughter, we got the form asking about guns.I threw the form in the trash. The receptionist noted that I didn't have the form and went to pull another one. I said "I'll throw that one away.too". She looked at me like I had two heads. "Why won't you fill out the form?" "Because its none of your business. We're here for a vaccination".
A few years later, I had my teenage son in for an ingrown toenail. He was old enough to fill in his own forms. He would make funny noises while filling out a form. When the doc came in to remove his toenail, he asked him "What does all this stuff have to do with my toe?" The guy looked at the form, smiled, then slipped it in the trash.
I'm glad my kids' pediatrician is a conservative and my personal doctor has hunting magazines in the waiting room. If your doctor is a gun banning lib, get another doctor. (I know, when your kid is sick that, interviewing a doctor is a low priority).
As much as I despise gun control laws, I don't see a problem with this. The doctors aren't trying to be politically corect gun grabbers. They want to help parents to be aware of fire arms safety so the doctor doesn't have to work on the kids in the ER because someone wasn't practicing good fire arms safety in their home. Most people are responsible, but some may be ignorant things that would reduce the likelihood of their kids getting hurt by accident. The doctors are only trying to prevent harm and aren't out to take away anyone's guns. It's like asking if the cleaning chemicals are safely stored or if perscription medication is sitting out in the open where little kids might get a hold of it. Things like that.
I'll take my safety counseling on firearms from the NRA, not the AMA - thank you very much.
Nah, get her an actual spring piston pellet rifle, maybe a Gamo. My dad got me one when I was six, and when I asked him, why a air rifle, why not a bb gun, he told me, "Dan, if you're gonna learn to shoot, you might as well be able to hit what you shoot at." If you're going to teach your kids to shoot, get them an accurate gun.
Then maybe the doctors should reviiew gun safety with every patient on every visit. THat way, the doctors don't need ask and just provide information to specific patients. Everyone can hear the speel and make a 5 min visit into 15.
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When our oldest daughter took her 1st child in (about four years ago) the Pediatrician asked the gun question. Our daughter was somewhat taken aback but told the truth and said no.
However, it's a good thing the Doc didn't ask about Samurai Swords, 'Ninja' and assorted edged weapons, as our S-I-L has a boat load of those. To paraphrase Beatrix Kiddo (the Bride) in Kill Bill Vol 2,
"He is proficient in the exquisite art of the Samurai Sword."
Needless to say we get along just fine. No wussies for my daughters :-)
Good for you. It's none of their business.
The first doctor that asks me that invasive question will receive a double-barrelled answer, "That is NONE of your G-d damned business!". Then I will abruptly leave and find another doctor.
Same dang gun - 1938 Red Rider.
The other guy said go with an airgun, but this is an airgun.
"My sister and her 12 year old son recently moved into my home after her recent divorce. Her son came down with an ear infection and had to go to the Dr and because I was off that day, I took him to see the DR. Within three minutes I got the gun questions. Do you have guns in your home? How many guns do you have? How are they stored? Do they have gunlocks on them?"
Don't worry, juinior's been carefully trained to only shoot nosy people.
Thanks for the link. My brother (in his 60's) was lamenting the fact that he gave up his original Red Ryder so I'm going to get him one!
Heh heh heh. Then did you have to pick her up off the floor?
That is great! Thanks!
No, skip the Red Ryder. Spend $10.00 more and get a Daisy Grizzly. It has a much smoother trigger. Then push gun safety.
BTW, my doctor knows I have guns ever since I had to be treated for bad powder burns after a real wierd misfire. (don't ask, but I'll blame it on bad ammo)
All he said was "Well, now you've got a good story."
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Chelsea Clinton has raised her profile in the past few days, which sparked the inevitable question about the former first daughter's future: Will she ever be like Mom and Dad and run for office?
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"Right now I'm grateful to live in a city, a state and a country where I strongly support my mayor, my governor, my president and my senators and my representative," said Clinton, whose father, Bill, was president from 1993-2001 and her mother, Hillary, just might give the White House a shot in 2016.
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I've enjoyed reading this board and learning from all of you, so I decided to join. I grew up in kingsport but didn't fly fish. Recently took it up and absolutely love it. Bought my first real fly rod at the Orvis store in PF a few weeks ago and plan to take it on business trips when trout water is close by. Hope to keep learning from all of you and really appreciate how generous everyone is with advice and encouragement.
John J.
John, I lived over in east Tennessee for 5.5 years in Greeneville, and never fly fished. Didn't take up this sport until about 3 years ago after I moved to Nashville (we actually live in Nolensville, TN) I really wish I had fly fished when I lived over there in East TN but didn't. We keep our 5th wheel over in the smokies and try to get over to fish the park every couple of months and see the guys at LRO. There is always some tying material I "need". My wife says I have enough tying stuff to open my own store with!
Glad you are getting into this sport. I started fly tying and fly fishing about 3 years ago and in truth would have to say I enjoy the tying as much, or more than the fly fishing. We've taken trips all over the country and I tie the flies for our little group (steelhead a few times a year in northern Ohio, salmon fishing in Michigan for a week at a time, rainbows in West Virginia at an Orvis lodge on the Elk Springs River, the South Holston 3-4 times a year, the Caney Fork, etc.) It's been the most rewarding hobby (translated "addiction") I've found and at 53 years old, it's a hobby I believe I can take on into older age. Don't know how much help I could be to you but if I can assist in some way, reach out. Harry Crabtree
John, I'm in the Inglewood area. Why wait for business trips? You have the Harpeth River in your back yard that has excellent smallmouth and panfish. The first weekend of Dec. the twra stocks a lot of local water for winter fishing. It's not the mountains, but it helps keep the fly fishing in tune.
Welcome to the "Trout Tribe", your fellow tribe members are easy to spot, we are always soggy, and scraped up but griinning like loons when we are spoted in the wild. We smell of 3 days past gone peanut butter and jelly sandwhichs and out of date granola bars. You can always spot one in the store, when they reach for change they always have 3 inch pieces of tippet mixed in with coins and a copper john with no wire they are saving for some obscure reason. If you take a ride from one of your fellow members, always feel the seat cushion, you are liable to scream out in pain with a #14 pheasant tail in your bum, while they scream "I knnew I didn't lose it"!
On a serious note, I suggest finding your local Trout Unlimited chapter, they are filled with great people (and they will always remind you if you forget it), who share the passion and doing what we can to pass it on. LRO and the Orvis store here are the same way, and are all great folks to know.
Good Luck and most of all have fun, it's a sport not a job!
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Welcome, John. I share a similar background having worked in Kingsport until my mid 50s. It was only a year or two before I started fly fishing. We then moved to Nashville where my wife is from. One of the places we lived was just off Nolensville Rd in an area locals refer to as "Brentioch." (heard that one, Harry?). We moved back to East TN after about seven years. My wife much preferred the mountains and I was able to get got part-time work in Kingsport.
If you haven't already done so, visit the folks at Cumberland Transit at 2807 West End Ave. About four years ago I got to meet Allen Doty, owner, and two really great gents in the FF section: Leo DeMonbreum and Ronnie Howard. If they are still working there, tell them the Map Guy said "Hi."
I only got to fly fish Caney Fork and had planned to do the Harpeth. Maybe I can fish it vicariously through you.
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Fred, yep I've heard that one and it's where Brentwood and Antioch meet! Like you, we much prefer the Smokies as well, but a man has to work, you know, and my job isn't in the mountains; it's in Nashville so I'm in Nashville for God-Willing, another 12 years until I retire. We've been casually looking around for some land over in the Townsend/Wears Valley area so one day we can have a little place over there next to the mountains I hope. It's a little dream I have with a cabin, nothing fancy. I'm trying to get over next weekend if I can find someone to teach my Sunday School class for me! You take care. Harry Crabtree
Thanks David. Where are good wading spots on harpeth?
On Hwy 100 south of the park, there is a turn off at a bridge on the Little Harpeth. There are parking spaces there and easy wading. I haven't fished there in the winter, but have done really well in the spring and early summer. Have done well in the park also. On the Harpeth, I've went with friends on private property. Cumberland Transit has a book on access points for canoeing the Harpeth. B.J. Young works part time at Jones Fly Co. in east Nashville, he fishes the Harpeth a lot. He would be a good contact to talk to about the Harpeth. I've been wanting to fish the Harpeth with B.J. myself.
Harry we are close. I live in east b'wood off concord rd. I fish mill creek often since it is close and lately a good place to practice throwing the fly rod. Maybe paths will cross. Thanks.
BrentwoodVFL, man we are close so we will have to try to hook up (no pun intended) sometimes. I have never really considered fishing the Harpeth but maybe that was a mistake on my part. Harry
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Skip to comments.DOJ invoked Espionage Act in calling Fox News reporter criminal 'co-conspirator'
Posted on 05/22/2013 6:11:34 PM PDT by markomalley
The Justice Department did more than seize a Fox News reporter's emails while suggesting he was a criminal "co-conspirator" in a leak case -- it did so under one of the most serious wartime laws in America, the Espionage Act.
It's the same law used by the Nixon administration to go after The New York Times and Daniel Ellsberg over the leak of the Pentagon Papers. It's the law used to charge the Rosenbergs, American communists, for allegedly passing secret information to the Soviet Union -- they were executed for the offense in 1953.
One Washington attorney, who represents two defendants recently charged under that World War I-era law, told FoxNews.com that the decision by the Justice Department to invoke it in the current case is "beyond chilling" -- and could set a dangerous precedent for going after reporters.
"This kind of puts us into the deep freeze," attorney Jesselyn Radack said. "I feel like we're back to the Dark Ages."
In the case involving Fox News, a government adviser was accused of leaking information after a 2009 story by Fox News' James Rosen was published online which said North Korea planned to respond to looming U.N. sanctions with another nuclear test.
Court documents, which were filed in 2011 and surfaced earlier this week, show the Justice Department made a series of claims against Rosen in the course of seeking a search warrant for his personal emails.
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Reagan never went after Sen Leaky Leahey.
Disgraceful to say the least. But I wouldn't expect any better from this admin. Is there any way to sue these asshats?
Nobody went after Ted Kennedy for passing info to Russia.
So if a journalist reports something that is not in line with Obama's narrative then the reporter can be charged under espionage laws?
The Department of Justice should be required by a Judge to prove they have certain evidence before a Warrant Is issued.If it turns out that the Affiant lied to get that Warrant he should be held liable under the nations Perjury laws.
These Warrants should be based on Facts,Not lies that the Politically motivated Justice Department can create out of thin air.
It's coming. Wise up whitey!
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who is reginald reyes? an obama supporter? does someone know if he contributed?
So can Republican Congress critters if they leak. He could go after ones in districts or States he needs to control Congress, especially House members. Of course DemoRats can leak as much as they like.
There is a reason the DHS purchased all that ammo. There is a reason the Democrats were trying so hard to confiscate guns. And there is a reason Americans went on a gun-buying spree over the past four months. It appears to me that both sides know what is coming, if something doesn't give. May God spare us that eventuality.
Oh for goodness sakes....Lord PLEASE help us!
No. They are diehard fans of His Arrogance. Look back in history and you will see that the intellectuals, news media, and wealthy leftist always supported the revolution of the communists and were the first determined to be dangerous and sacrificed for the good of the revolution. Will they wake up ... probably on the way to the labor or re-educations camps.
IIRC it was Magistrate Judge Alan Kay of the DC Court that okayed the FBI request to go after Rosen's communications..
...interestingly enough, per wikipedia, he was also the magistrate who upheld Gitmo "residents" right not to have their mail read.
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Not "alleged"- they did.
a falsified affidavit...hmmmmmm
444, Interesting bit of info at 17.
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He not only leaked them he was in on making them up. And Danny wants a media shield law just as Obama does, which might seem odd given Obama's going after a reporter and has been snooping on AP until you realize that the shield law would create an officially sanctioned media that was entitled to being protected for leaking while media that does not receive the government seal of approval, such as FreeRepublic, tea party bloggers, and so on, will not receive such protection, and therefore whistleblowers with criticisms of Democrat administrations will not be able to find a safe or receptive outlet for their complaints and charges of government corruption.
We really would have a state run media.
That would be a good campaign on Facebook, changing profile pictures to "I am James Rosen."
Another name for another coverup game.
If an impeachment doesn't commence soon, Obama will only be further emboldened. These methods would make Mussolini jealous.
"...Mussolini founded the Fascist Party in 1919, used force and intimidation against political opponents, and took power in 1922, creating a dictatorship..."
Things are going not going well within this Republic bitt.
Fox News attornies need to look into this.
FReeper showme_the_Glory reminds us of the practice of "pencil whipping."
DEFINITION To complete a form, record, or document without having performed the implied work or without supporting data or evidence. Pencil whipping an official document incurs jailtime.
As well, DOJ "falsifying" a govt document incurs 4-5 felonies and could involve forgery.
MEMO TO TEA PARTIERS Scrutinize all IRS documents. If the IRS falsified official documents, that usually involves about 4-5 felonies...... and could include forgery.
I urge Tea Party victims of the IRS to drop the logic----they need to factor in that they are dealing with cunning con artists. The Chi/mobsters in the WH have their con game down pat. These practiced WH con artists oozed out of the muck and mire of Chicago criminal politics and known every trick in the book.
Words fail me.
Impeachment File on Benghazi Coward B. Hussein Obama, aka Barry Soetoro, a legal citizen of the sovereign Nation of Indonesia.
Nice to meet you. Hope all ends well, have a million questions but will wait another time.
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My sons have been hit on the bus, in the gym, on the playground and in the hallway. My 9 year old was punched on the bus. The teachers are bullies also. When I removed my 3rd grader from Harris, his teacher abused her power with false allegations to CPS. The school is in Mesa - but part of Gilbert schools. It's ridiculous. My son is autistic and went 2 times a week to Donna Tow's resource room where she had him remove articles of his outfit every visit. I am totally serious and appalled by this. I reported her to DOE, they stated the district oversees this. Ok. Why is she having a child remove articles of clothing. You want to know... so she can document anything against parents. For example, our son's shoe size is 5.5 and he was wearing a child's 5 sock and adult 6 sock... she added that to the CPS report. I am totally serious! No technology for elementary students... well... 1 hour? Teachers seem technically challenged.[Comment on this Posting]
Good area for children - 1/1/2014
Hello my husband just accepted a job offer in Tempe and I have been doing research on what areas around there offer the best schools for my children. We are moving from Nevada and understand the whole living in the desert and you stay inside for 2-3 months in the hot months. I have read several posts about Gilbert being a really good place to raise your family. I need to know if it is a safe place. As I said my husbands job will be in Tempe and would like to keep the commute under 45 min. I am looking for some insight on good areas to live in that have low crime rates and a school rating. Right now I am using a great school for my focal point in finding a place to locate to might but if a town is out there that might be a better choice please let me know...[Comment on this Posting]
weather? - 4/14/2013
Moving to AZ soon and possibly to Gilbert. Used to live in Albuquerque. az sounds hotter but can anyone compare the two? They seem similar. Thanks. [Comment on this Posting]
Gilbert Is A Great City For Families - 4/2/2013
I have lived in Gilbert for almost 10 years now, and have nothing but great things to say about it. I built my own business here in Gilbert providing custom welding, pool fencing, custom gates and fences, along with custom auto fabrication and welding and absolutely love my customers in Gilbert and the surrounding east valley. It is a great place to live and raise a family, and the reason that I have stayed and kept my business here. www.guerrillafab.com [Comment on this Posting]
Searching for a safe neighborhood in Gilbert, AZ - 10/18/2012
I have a family member relocting to this rea in less than 10 days. I need help locating a safe neighborhood.
Thank you![Comment on this Posting]
I miss having four seasons - 9/4/2012
In the Phoenix area, we have two seasons, not so hot and HOT! My personal aesthetic taste is for a place that has trees, water, and outdoor recreation no matter what time of year it may be. I liken our summers to the harsh winters in other parts of the country. We are literally indoors for the majority of 6 months because it is just too hot to be outside.[Comment on this Posting]
Arizona - my .02 - 7/13/2012
I am a long-time resident of AZ (30+ years) and wanted to share my experience with folks considering a move here. Arizona's geography and weather make it an excellent destination if you are an active person willing to get off the couch and take responsibility for your happiness. The politics and culture here have often made me very sad (very conservative to the point of being mean-spirited) but I remain hopeful that growth and economic necessity will facilitate a more progressive attitude.
WEATHER. IMHO, we have 6 months of absolutely perfect weather. No hurricanes, tornados, floods, humidity or anything else to complain about. Then we have 4 months of warm weather. The days can be quite warm (into the 90s) but the mornings and evenings are crazy-beautiful. Perfect for dining alfresco or getting outdoors for walks, sports, etc (and we have no mosquitos!). Then there are 2 months of sheer hell (july & august). The monsoons hit this time, driving the humidity up to about 30% + high temps of 107 and above. This is the time to hit the pool, movies, museums, etc. It's not pleasant but escape is possible!!! Payson is just 1 hour away from the eastern cities and offers temps 15 to 20 degrees cooler. Drive a little further, into Flagstaff, Prescott or Show Low and wow, you are in heaven again. These are mountain cities where you can camp, hike, fish, raft, boat, shop, stay in hotels, visit festivals, etc. So there's lots of respite from the heat... but only if you are willing to do more than open your front door.
SCHOOLS. Mixed reviews here. Overall, I don't think that AZ ranks very high compared to the rest of the nation for our education system. Sadly, our current governor (Brewer) and her friends
have slashed school budgets, resulting in higher class sizes & teacher turnover. The good news is that AZ is a school choice state so you can send your child to any public or charter school regardless of where you live. I live in Gilbert, which has a strong reputation for excellent schools. However, I opted for a charter school over our neighborhood school because of much smaller class sizes, an emphasis on STEM curriculum and more hands-on project based learning. If you are willing to research and visit different schools (and make the drive), I'm pretty sure you'll find a school you can be happy with. As for higher ed, AZ was for a long time limited in choices. We had 3 major universities, a good community college system, but nothing else. Now a number of smaller, liberal arts 4-year colleges are setting up satellite campuses here which broadens our choices.
JOBS. Honestly, I can't speak much about this b/c I've been a stay-at-home mom for 5 years now. On the positive side, Phoenix is a really big city which usually translates to more opps. On the negative side, our economy has relied heavily on construction and real estate, both very fragile in times of trouble. I know there has been an effort to attract more tech and bio-tech jobs. Healthcare is strong b/c of our attrativeness to retirees.
POLITICS. AZ has always been a conservative state. Growing up here, it was mostly Goldwater conservatism (ie, I stay out of your business and you stay out of mine). But the past 10-20 years has brought a more socially and religiously conservative agenda to our state, which I think mimics conservatism at the national level. Issues like illegal immigration and gay marriage can get downright nasty. Our sheriff (joe arpaio) is nationally known for his John Wayne-esque approach to law enforcement, which is embarassing to many of us, but not all. He's been comfortably re-elected many times. Having said that, there is enough of our former "live and let live" attitude here that I, as a Democrat and liberal, can live (mostly) comfortably here. If being in a more progressive, open minded city is important to you, take a look @ Phoenix and Tempe as your relocation spot. If you don't care so much, then any suburb will do.
CULTURE. Active, health-conscious, a solid arts community (but definitely not San Francisco!), diversity is not huge but what we have is visible. One thing I really like here is that it's easy to meet new people if you try. AZ is a high-migration state, which means there are lots of transplants here so newcomers are not a big deal. Some of our family have moved to parts of the country with low migration and have had a terrible time building a community of friends. Not everyone is super friendly but with a little effort (look at meetup.com to find groups built around your interests & hobbies) you should find this workable.
In summary, AZ (Phoenix area) is a big city with many sub communities co-existing (fairly well). If you are an active, health conscious person, you'll find a community here. If you are a super conservare ative religious person, you'll find a community here. If you are gay, lesbian, transgendered or asexual, you'll find a community here. If you are a solitary soul who prefers to be left alone, you'll find a community here. And so on. I love AZ for its beautiful Sonoran deserts and bountiful opps to play outdoors. I don't love the politics, esp recently. But overall, if you are moving here, I think you can be optimistic that it's a good place to be! Just please don't ask us if we still have tumbleweeds blowing down the street... sheesh.[Comment on this Posting]
dislike - 4/6/2012
Just unhappy here[Comment on this Posting]
Living in Arizona is Great! - 2/17/2012
I love living in sunny Arizona. There is plent of great things about Arizona that I love the people are so freindly and welcoming. There is plenty of shopping close by. My family loves to go for bike rides on the near by paths.
We have the Grand Canyon, Golfing, Great winters, so much to see and do right here in our back yard!
Becky Hansen[Comment on this Posting]
Yes, it really is that hot - 4/19/2011
From mid-May through at least early October, it is blisteringly scorching here. Dry heat or not, it is seriously unpleasant. You will find that up to about 107 isn't too bad, but after that -- which covers June through early August -- it is godawful; even at 3 a.m. it is 100 degrees. Of course, the payoff is the other seven months of the year, when the weather is blissfully fabulous. Miss the seasons? Drive an hour north for snow in Prescott or two hours to snowboard in Flagstaff.[Comment on this Posting]
I really love Gilbert! - 1/16/2011
Gilbert is very residential and family oriented, which I love,
as well as having great schools with fantastic programs for
children with autism! My daughter attends Highland Junior High
and her teacher and aides are so caring and loving towards her!
There's also lots of great restaurants, shopping and a fabulous
outdoor mall (San Tan Mall)! Two thumbs up for Gilbert!!![Comment on this Posting]
the truth about gilbert (born and raised) - 9/25/2010
I have been reading reviews about gilbert and I must reword correctly what people are saying about the town.
I was born and raised Gilbert, same house my whole life, gilbert schools. I am not mormon, and liberal. Yes, complete opposite.
1. No, gilbert is not a horrible place to raise kids, ARIZONA IS. Gilbert does not have array surrounding it that makes in 115 in the summers, all the other cities are hot too. Arizona is hot and sucks. No one is out playing because its freaking hot, I would rather not die of heat stroke... but that is just personal. Gilbert has a lot of great family activities and more family things. great FAMILY town. especially if you are conservative you will love it. More of a liberal, or a teenager that likes to party? Move to tempe or chandler.
to user name gilbert mom, ARIZONA IS NOT A PLACE TO RAISE KIDS!
2. Hate crimes? Honestly I have not heard of anyone beat up for no reason unless they were asking for it. Trust me, even though a ton of people live here now, people still seem to know everyone and everything. Nonsense like this would make news... cause there is nothing else to talk about. I am a teenage girl, a cheerleader (just giving you an image) and i would feel perfectly safe walking anywhere pretty much by myself at the middle of the night. But this would never happen cause there is some store on every corner and everyone has a car. Gilbert does not have a ghetto, we have an older area that looks kinda scary, but is mostly just filled with old people that have lived there forever.
3. I personal hate the cops cause they always break up the good parties and give out mics. But they have nothing else to do cause there is like no crime. If you call for help, you get a firetruck, ambulance, and like 5 cops. If you dont want to get caught, you get 15 cop cars. they are ALL over the place. If you got stuck on the side of the street. find a main road, no worries a cop will be there to get you in trouble in no time... or even out of trouble. Dont be stupid and start drama, thats how you get yourself in trouble. PS. 99% get caught, so dont try stupid sh*t.
4. Cultural. Yeah 90% of the kids are sheltered, but whoever said thats such a horrible thing. There are lots of mexicans, and the honors system in the high schools are filled with plenty of asians and middle easterns. Mormons are there own race too. And we have black people that dress like they are ghetto, but they live in gilbert... thats all i have to say. Yeah its mostly white and mexican, but its arizona, what do you expect?
The place is quiet at night, and the mormons annoy me a lot, and the hardcore christians which consist of almost everyone, but it keeps the town pretty safe, rich, and quiet.
Last, gilbert is a great safe place with awesome schools to raise a family. Yes, it can be boring and yes the mormons run the place. But what do you expect, you live in the middle of the desert? What else did you think you would find.
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Gilbert, AZ - 9/7/2010
Great schools. Convenient to everything. [Comment on this Posting]
Gilbert is amazing - 7/12/2010
You should have seen my garden this year! Understandably it is different from back east, it IS the desert. But you can figure it out. You should have seen our crops of watermelon, squash, eggplant, lettuce, carrots, radishes, etc. Plus our flourishing peach, green apple, apricot, plum and citrus trees. BEAUTIFUL. Also, I was born and raised here and have always loved it. Kids play outside in front of my home all day everyday. I have two children who have had more friends here than anywhere else we have ever lived, and as far as going outside goes, really it is a trade off. When I lived in Utah, you spend the winters inside for three months. Here, either get a pool or spend three months of summer inside. It isn't so bad. My high school where I attended was awarded the National Merit scholar award for being rated the #1 high school in the country in 2004, and gilbert has great programs for sports, music, arts, dance, etc. The shopping here is beyond most rural areas, and there is a fantastic array of dining within a 30 min driving radius. Driving to the snow only takes 1 1/2 hours in the winter time, and then my kids get to get out and play in the fun white stuff. Gamage auditorium is near and frequently features fantastic events, and there is a small theater in down town gilbert, as well as various museums around for those who enjoy cultural experiences. [Comment on this Posting]
How about the Hate Crimes that still exist here - 3/16/2010
My 13 year old son was jumped by a group of kids that drove up in a car. Old enough to drive, obviously. Then they tell him they are jumping him because he's gay, take his shoes, smash his phone & is left wandering the streets all night. The gas station attendant wouldn't let him call anyone for help not even the police. The hate is still there even after ten years(hate group established there). Its a great place if you fit in, don't ever look different...[Comment on this Posting]
politics - 10/2/2009
Too conservative[Comment on this Posting]
I love gilbert - 8/2/2009
Because it is close enough to night life and things to do but far enough where you can have your peace and quiet at home. Gilbert has many freeways that can connect you to the major cities and airport. There is close shopping, friendly people, many golf resorts, and outdoor recreation nearby such as canyon and saguaro lake, many offroad quad riding trails and hiking trails. Yeah it can be a little hot during the summer but its dry heat. I come from the east coast and I prefer this heat over heat so humid. In the winter its perfect weather.[Comment on this Posting]
Living in Gilbert is not for kids! - 7/20/2009
I have lived in Arizona for 12 years now. I have 2 kids, and HATE the fact that I have to raise them here (due to job and economic conditions, it is nearly impossible to sell my house, find a job practically anywhere else and move)
The summers are simply way too hot to do anything but sit at home and watch TV. It is unbearable to even drive to the movies or a mall to beat the heat...The spring, fall and winter are not as hot, but, face it, this is the desert, so everything is dusty, sandy and brown, so unless you are really into hiking,even hiking is not fun.
Because of the heat, or maybe the fact that most people living here are not originally from Arizona, people tend to keep to themselves, so you will almost never see kids playing even on a quiet cul de sac.
If you are into gardening, forget it--although it rarely ever freezes here, it is soooooo hot and dry for most of the year that cacti are the only plants you can grow around here. Since I am an avid gardener, I try to grow vegetables every year with very poor results--most vegetables literally cook on the vine before you get a chance to harvest them.
If you are the type that likes daytrips, don't bother, cause most places that are a couple of hours away look the same, and the drive is incredibly boring.
This is a great place if you are retired, can sleep all day, and spend all night gambling at nearby casinos. If you have pets, kids, hobbies or plan to have them, save yourself the agony and find somewhere else to live.[Comment on this Posting]
It's Always Sunny in Gilbert, Arizona! - 6/20/2009
3 years ago, My husband and myself moved to Gilbert leaving family and friends behind. Although it was a major move, in retrospect the weather here is the reason we stay.
Many will state it is too hot in AZ for them, however, 3/4's of the year it is like living in spring time - between 70's and 80's all year long! It is not even a trade off to us as we have lived in many places where it either rained most of the year or snowed.
Notably, Gilbert is not the place for you if you are a snow bunny ;-), however if you love to be outside nearly all the year with the warmth cascading through your body, Gilbert is the place to be.
Now tell me, if you had a place to live with nice weather don't you think that would benefit you both in attitude and health? It sure has with us![Comment on this Posting]
CLimate in Gilbert - The stories are worse than it - 1/1/2009
We have lived in Gilbert for more than 15 years. The summers are hot - June through September most days are over 100 degrees. However, the other 8 months, the weather is as good as it gets. The thing about summer is, without all the humidity, the heat doesn't feel that bad. There is some truth to "its a dry heat". The one thing about Gilbert, and Central / Southern Arizona in general, is that you have clear blue sky almost everyday. That makes up for a few months of heat.[Comment on this Posting]


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Here's how RW members rated this race in the past (140 votes).
In short: Excellent for a first time marathonIn full: Delay at start was a little unfortunate but didn't stop this race being excellent.Coming out of the tunnel was fantastic as was the city centre and the finish. Looping Sefton Park became a bit of a challenge but overall this has the potential to become a huge race. Well done scousers.Date of review: October 25, 2011
In short: When you run to the drums in the tunnel - You'll be back.In full: Great event. As the first time running of the event it was brilliant. Crowds were found all along the route - even for us very slow runners. When I crossed the finish line I always thought I would think never again but have to admit I want to go back and do it again.The one line summary will mean a special something to everyone who ran the race this year and next year it could and should be you.Date of review: October 25, 2011
In short: Best race I've done for atmosphere. The people of L'pool should be proudIn full: The day started with an unavoidable delay. If some complete idiots choose to ignore the road closures the organisers have to put safety first. This I feel did affect a lot of people in the latter stages of the race though.Once the race got going it was pretty much perfect. The wind was maybe a little strong but a lot better than forecast. The support on the Wirral was about normal for a marathon and then came the dullness of the tunnel. What followed was one of the best experiences of my life. The thrill that came as I came out of the tunnel to drummers and thousands of wellwishers was something that I highly recommend every runner experiences.It was tough running for the next nine mile, up a hill and then loops of parks but the home straight soon made you forget the pain. It was a lovely finish by the three graces and the volunteers handing out medals were first class.Goody bag was poor but hey you can't have everything. A real triumph for a first effort. Can't wait for next year.Date of review: October 25, 2011
In full: The 45 min delay at start and steep climb out of tunnel drained so much energy, it took the edge off what was otherwise a fabulous day.Date of review: October 25, 2011
In short: First year teething problems aside (delay), this was a fantastic occasion!!Date of review: October 25, 2011
In short: Well organised with excellent atmosphere.Date of review: October 25, 2011
In short: Not bad for a first time marathon but not great either. 45 min delay was really bad at the start.Date of review: October 24, 2011
In short: Great course, great atmosphere, great city, great race.Date of review: October 21, 2011
In short: A good race - great atmosphere and support - crowd phenominal. The climb out of the tunnel up up to Sefton park was tough coming at mile 13 - lead to lots of cramp in lots of runners. A tougher course than expected but definately worth it.Date of review: October 21, 2011
In short: good runIn full: an excellent race, coming out the tunnel to the beating drums was so uplifting. thanks to everyone involved. ill be backDate of review: October 21, 2011
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Discussion in 'Political Discussion' started by PatsWSB47, Oct 25, 2011.
Possibly the worst attempt at an ad I've ever seen
Not at all surprising (although, if the ad were to be perfectly honest, he should have been taking a sip or two from a martini while stacking some $25.00 chips, as well) when you consider that from 1996, when he left the pizza company, until 1999, Mr. Cain ran the National Restaurant Association, a once-sleepy trade group that he transformed into a lobbying powerhouse. He allied himself closely with cigarette makers fighting restaurant smoking bans, spoke out against lowering blood-alcohol limits as a way to prevent drunken driving, fought an increase in the minimum wage and opposed a patients' bill of rights — all in keeping with the interests of the industry he represented.
Under Mr. Cain's leadership, the restaurant association opposed higher taxes on cigarettes and the use of federal money to prosecute cigarette makers for fraud — positions that Matt Myers, president of the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids said had little to do with the restaurant business.
And Mr. Cain argued vociferously that the decision about whether to go smoke-free was the province of individual restaurant owners, not the government. "The restaurant industry literally became the alter ego of the tobacco industry during that period of time," Mr. Myers said in an interview.
Mr. Meyne,the Reynolds senior director of public affairs, wrote that in previous years his company had given the trade group "as much as nearly $100,000 in cash and much more in in-kind support," adding, "They have done virtually everything we've ever asked, and even appointed us to their board."
Mr. Meyne, who now works for the gambling industry and declined to be interviewed for this article, predicted as much. His 1999 e-mail assessing Mr. Cain's prospects outlined his political weaknesses ("no natural geographic base from which to run" and no proven fund-raising ability) before offering a prescient conclusion.
"Bottom line: Herman Cain is certain, in one form or another, to be a political factor for a number of years to come," Mr. Meyne wrote. "We have a good relationship with him, and that will certainly be to our benefit."
Oh, and that Chief of Staff?
That's Mark Block who worked as an official at Americans for Prosperity before becoming Cain's chief of staff and campaign manager - you know the guy - the one who was legally banned from politics in Wisconsin for three years and forced to pay a $15,000 fine after being accused by the Wisconsin State Elections Board of violating election law in 1997 as campaign manager to state Supreme Court Justice Jon P. Wilcox.
Read more: Mark Block | Herman Cain | Elections 2012 | The Daily Caller
Oh Jesus Christ this is terrible news, how the hell can anybody run a country if they have somebody that "smokes" working for them, I don't know if I can vote for Cain now, this changes everything.
Remember what Billy Blue Dress and Monica used to do with Cigars.
And this is the dude who currently leads the GOP pack. Bahahaha.
"Light 'em if you got 'em".....
AFP is a freont for the Loch Brothers. Cain is rool of the Koch Brothers. He was a TV spokesmodel for AFP and, when asked what he thought of David Koch, responded "David Koch is a patriot."
Cain has no organization on the ground in any of the early primary states and prolly doesn't need one of his own, given the mechanism of AFP being used and funded by the Koch Brothers (Thank you, Supreme Court).
Hahahahah! Oh my frickin LORD!!!
This is the best the Cain camp has to offer?
straight comedy......
P.S. This HAS to be a joke, right?
Only on those who think he'd make a great president.
It's the ultimate in irony, isn't it?
Its bordering on shocking...
There is zero substance to the 'ad'.... just a bunch of campaign slogan-type things then...BAM... "I'm smoking a butt....FU"
The cherry on top would be for him to have a double-malt in the other hand, then put out the cigatrette on Herman Cain's tongue.
They then throw the cigarette butt into a river and spit in it.
Gives a whole new meaning to "the best that money can buy," doesn't it?
For all Herman Cain's fine speeches about people who are "still on the plantation" and "brainwashed" it's going to turn out to be that he's the marionette who's been owned all along.
AFP is a powerhouse of campain finance. They spent a whopping $1.3 million in 2010.
Americans for Prosperity Outside Spending | OpenSecrets
I mean how do they expect the poor teachers unions to compete with that?
National Education Assn Outside Spending | OpenSecrets
You've gotta wonder where all that $$ is actually going, That Cain Ad probably took $50 to make, and thats being generous.
AFP is simply ONE of the armed financiers of the right wing..
2012 Outside Spending, by Groups
2012 Outside Spending, by Groups | OpenSecrets
Liberals: $3.1M
Conservative: $4.7M
We Got Him Now
ha ha ha ha
You trying to tell me AFL-CIO only spent $4,782 and NRA only spent $5,560? That's fishy.
He currently does not have any staff in NH or Iowa, he is trying to copy Bachman..
From what I've read and watched he doesn't have much of a staff anywhere. The only thing keeping him relevant is the amount of debates the GOP have had in the last 3 months.
Bachmann is another story. She gave up on NH and her staff quit last week. Both of them are done.
Popularity's not the only thing Herman Cain's leading in.
Here's a list of non-disclosured funding by all the candidates to date:
Herman Cain - 47.4%
M. Bachmann - 14%
Rick Perry - 9.1%
M. Romney - 7.9%
Newt Gingrich - 6.5%
B. Obama - 4.4%
Ron Paul - 3.9%
Summary data for Mitt Romney | OpenSecrets
And it's Herman Cain - by a landslide!!!
That's the spending so far for the 2012 cycle. For the 2010 cycle, the AFL-CIO spent $4,044,898 and the NRA spent $8,351,636.
Separate names with a comma.