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BackupBuddy - Question from a newbie before to buy - Migrating a site
#1 Guest_Paulina_*
Posted 02 August 2011 - 11:38 PM
I discovered recently your site and am considering BackupBuddy. I read the different topics here and I'm not sure I understand the following.
I have a setup where my core WP files are not in the root directory (I am not a techie but apparently it is what is described with a 'Home Url' and 'site Url' being different). My sites are heavily using Widgets with apparently what my support guy calls "serialised data".
My main use would be to transfer local dev to live environments ("migration" is I understand clearly).
It seems by reading here other topics that I might run in trouble.
Would it be working without any problem with BackupBuddy with the existing package?
Posted 03 August 2011 - 04:21 PM
Your question is very important to us so that we can help you make an informed decision about purchasing BackupBuddy and we can get to know in more detail your intended usage.
A setup where the WordPress core files are not installed in the (site) root directory but instead in a subdirectory is quite common and is not necessarily, by nature, as you describe, that is to say it does not have to have the WordPress address and Site address (as you would see them on the Settings page) being different. I have used these terms because as you mention that you are a non-techie I think it is perhaps confusing to use terms such as "home url" and "site url" since these are not specifically terms or names used by WordPress and as a non-techie you would not come across any such usage. Of course I make the assumption that as a non-techie you do edit WordPress configuration files or use database maintenance tools - please re-advise if I have made an incorrect assumption here.
Just to clarify and verify could you state what are your site WordPress address and Site address so that I can be sure exactly what type of installation is under consideration (of course you do not need to specify the real values but just representative values that have the same form). Could you also note in what manner the values are displayed, specifically whether or not you are able to edit the values or are the values shown as greyed out?
Again, just to clarify to better allow us to help you - and you'll probably need your "support guy" as you mention to provide you some detail here - could you confirm in what manner the WordPress address and Site Address values are derived - is it through database stored value or overrides?
And finally, I'm sorry it may seem like a lot of questions, but we do like to be thorough, could your support guy describe what is his specific reason for mentioning serialized data to you? Have you or he had some specific issue in the past with serialized data, perhaps where a host has moved a site for you?
Thanks for your patience in this matter and if you can help us with the additional information and detail (I am sure your support guy will have no trouble :-) we can better understand you specific needs.
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#3 Guest_Paulina_*
Posted 04 August 2011 - 01:07 AM
Thanks for answering me.
Your answer is quite technical for me. But let's try.
Depending on the websites, I have with my WP setup other software installed like wikis, forums, etc...
The address of the the site is for example www.mywebsite.co.za. The core files of WP are not installed in the root directory but in a sub directory of the home setup - usually www.mywebsite.co.za/wp.
Wikis or forums software are installed respectively in www.mywebsite.co.za/wiki & www.mywebsite.co.za/forum.
But it is by the main WP index.php file in the home directory that access is done to the site.
Not sure to understand everything, but my techie said the best way to understand it is to read http://codex.wordpress.org/Giving_WordPress_Its_Own_Directory.
This setup is perfectly working for me for months now.
However, with our current process, when I move files from local to live on Internet (the address of the website has to change), all link addresses present in widgets are not handled correctly and widgets are not visible anymore. It is apparently what my techie calls a problem with "serialised data", whatever it means.
I have been reading other posts which seem to be somehow related to my setup (for instance: http://ithemes.com/forum/index.php?/topic/16452-come-on-backupbuddy-working-when-wordpress-address-is-different-from-the-site-address-general-settings/) and I am not sure if they apply to my situation.
Will BackupBuddy be able to help me with this?
Please advice.
Thanks for your help
#4 Guest_Paulina_*
Posted 04 August 2011 - 11:58 PM
Anybody there? I have urgent requests and I need to know this week if I should buy BackupBuddy or not?
Posted 05 August 2011 - 06:48 AM
Apologies for the delay, there was some additional information I asked for but as your request is urgent I will give you a reference site setup and migration scenario to which you and your support help will be able to compare with your situation to determine the applicability.
The site to be migrated was either:
a) directly installed in a subdirectory and had the (Settings) Site address changed at installation to the "parent" url before any content was added; or
b) directly installed in the main site root and then moved to the subdirectory (as per the WordPress Codex) before any content was added.
The option (a) is the (at least my :-) preferred method as it is a little cleaner and easier, for one thing you don't stand the risk of losing the admin during the process. It's important to remember to save the Permalink setting at the appropriate points to have valid .htaccess files in place.
Content is added as normal with (internal) links on Posts and Pages making use of appropriate shortcode techniques and/or editor based link insertions for "virtual" (posts, pages) links and "real" (media, etc. � files) links.
Widget content may be added using appropriate shortcode techniques or embedded php techniques for (internal) links. The use of such techniques in general is a good approach as it aids portability.
For the migration process, and I'm assuming this is a first migration rather than a subsequent migration, take a full backup and place the backup file and importbuddy.php on the new server in the subdirectory which will equate with your new (Settings) WordPress address.
Proceed through the Steps until Step 4 where you will select the option for a different "Site Address (Home URL)" and set this to the desired (Settings) Site address (the main site domain url) � (remember to enter and test the new database access details as well of course ;-) Proceed through the following migration steps until Step 7 but do not execute Step 7 yet as advised on the page.
The next steps are:
1) using your ftp client or other means move the .htaccess file and index.php from the subdirectory into the site root and edit the index.php to set the correct path for the require statement. This is of course the same operation you would have done for the initial installation option (a) and you only need to do this for the first migration of this site to this server. You should make sure that at least the .htaccess file is writable by the server process for ease of the next step but it is not essential.
2) Using a new browser window (remember we're keeping importbuddy sitting at Step 7) login in to the site admin and save the Permalink setting which will amongst other things update the .htaccess file that you just copied to the main site root. Of course as is normally the case if WordPress cannot write to the file it will tell you what it wants you to put in the file.
Now you may visit the site as a normal visitor to verify the operation and when satisfied you may return to the importbuddy window and execute Step 7 to clean up. If you get any warnings about files that could not be removed then you will need to go in and remove these using your ftp client or other means (control panel File Manager, etc.).
In response to your specific point concerning serilaized data, yes importbuddy (the component of the BackupBuddy solution that is used to perform the migration) does process serialized data.
I hope this information will allow you and your technical support to make your decision, thanks.
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Posted 05 August 2011 - 08:06 AM
I have a wordpress site here: http://mymauivilla.com/wp and want to use backupbuddy to migrate it to the root, so http://mymauivilla.com
Does the migrate/restore feature work for this?
There is currently a non-wordpress site at the root.
Please let me know asap. Thanks!
Posted 05 August 2011 - 09:25 AM
Yes, I noted your question over on the main forum, it will be responded to there. Unfortunately at the moment we are experiencing a spike in support requests so the response times are a little slower than normal, please bear with us on this as every request is important to us.
The short answer to your question is yes.
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#8 Guest_Paulina_*
Posted 06 August 2011 - 01:34 AM
Thanks for the long answer. The process seems to be quite straight forward as also explained in the migration video on the Home Page.
Here is what I have in the "General Settings" panel on my local setup:
- WordPress address (URL)
- Site address (URL)
Enter the address here if you want your site homepage to be different from the directory you installed WordPress.
- WordPress address (URL)
- Site address (URL)
Please confirm this final step.
Posted 06 August 2011 - 03:54 PM
Thanks for the additional information.
Yes, in general the migration process is trouble-free. Of course I understand your desire for certainty but with a complex product operating in a complex and uncertain environment there are always opportunities for unforeseen issues an it would be negligent in advising you if I did not point that out as I am sure you will agree.
Indeed, if such certainty were ever possible then, in general, there would be no need for support Forums as you will find here and for many other products from many other vendors. The vast majority of Customers will have no problems or simply need pointing in the right direction whilst a few need a little more support to overcome trickier problems.
For your particular case, if, with your technical support, you can identify that your installation is consistent with the scenario that I previously described then your migration should go as described, subject to the condition(s) I described above.
It is not my intention to be unhelpful in my response but at the same time I would ask you to consider whether, without me having your intimate knowledge of your site, your local development environment and your new host/server, whether your expectation of a 100% guarantee is reasonable.
"Everything will be all right in the end. If it isn't all right yet then it isn't the end."
Posted 07 August 2011 - 01:20 AM
Sorry for jumping in, but with the current version of BackupBuddy (2.2.10), the setup described by Paulina is not currently going to work (what she described is basically the same setup that the one I am stuck with since end of June): 'Home Url' different from 'Site Url', need to change links in widgets due to a migration.
See http://ithemes.com/forum/index.php?/topic/16452-come-on-backupbuddy-working-when-wordpress-address-is-different-from-the-site-address-general-settings/ for reference, specifically entries on 27/07.
Could you confirm which version you have access? Maybe it is a new one not currently officially released?
BackupBuddy seems to be a nice product, and a lot of users are apparently very happy with it, but in this specific configuration, there is room for improvements (basically it doesn't work - I know for sure, I bought it - and there is no workaround for this problem currently).
The dev team is however apparently working on it, and situation could change in the near future.
A weekly news was published on 27.07.2011:
2. ImportBuddy is getting new upgrades this week. ImportBuddy is the importing feature for BackupBuddy, so if you use BackupBuddy to migrate or restore a site, you are already using it. And now it will be even more robust. Matt Danner, COO of iThemes, described it this way: "It is like ImportBuddy is getting a titanium hip. It will look the same on the outside, but be even more super powerful on the inside".
But for the moment (7th August) this 'upgrade' has not been released as announced. Not sure also what is included in details with the "titanium hip'. Hopefully, soon we will know.
Posted 07 August 2011 - 04:19 AM
I am using V2.2.10.
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#12 Guest_Paulina_*
Posted 08 August 2011 - 12:25 AM
Maybe because I'm coming from a so called third world country, my perceived risk is still fairly high.
Some user say it is not going to work for the moment in my configuration (and they seem pretty well aware and documented on the thing).
On the other side, support sounds quite elusive on this specific topic (not specifically you Jeremy but based on what I read in the other threads of the forum).
There is also a no refund policy ($150 is really quite an amount here) in case I can't use it just after my purchase for what I am supposed to...
So nobody else from iThemes with an official statement on this (even just saying for example "No there is absolutely no problem with this, and we assure you it is going to be really ok from day one - or - Yes we have a problem with this but the 'Titanium hip' update is going to fix it definitely on Month/Day/Year")?
Posted 08 August 2011 - 08:40 AM
I can assure you that your geographical location has no bearing at all on the responses that I have made to your enquiry - in fact I have no idea where you are located as the use of a specific domain has no specific relationship to where you as the owner of that domain may be located. My responses are based purely on the questions you ask and the responses you give to questions I ask :-)
As I mentioned previously, I understand that you are looking for certainty and it is of course your decision as to whether based on my responses (and any other information you wish to take into account) you believe that you are certain enough to proceed and of course I would always advise that if you are not certain then make your decision appropriately.
Because this is a complex situation you will be aware that I was asking a lot of questions and in the end I did not feel that I had sufficient evidence to make a call on your specific site and installation. For that reason I instead chose to provide a "reference" scenario which you, in conjunction with your technical support, could compare, using your combined specific and detailed knowledge of your site, to decide whether or not it would match that reference scenario. I hoped that I had pitched this at the right level, for example, based on the fact that your technical support understood and were concerned about serialized data I felt that they would be able to understand the details of the scenario to compare with your site. I can only apologise if I misjudged this and left you even more confused :-(
Of course as this is a public forum anyone else can post their own opinions and experiences and I have no objection to that provided they are sensible and not misleading. However you should also consider that any advice you may be given or any assertions that may be made are also based upon assumptions about your situation unless the person making such has specific access to or knowledge of your site - they may have, I cannot say. I can't comment on whether these may be correct or not.
As an official support function I prefer not to make assumptions unless I clearly state what these are so that anyone reading them can confirm the validity of the assumption and/or seek clarification. Such a responsibility is not incumbent upon any other contributor.
I fully respect your decision that you do not wish to proceed at this time and I hope that the information and explanations I have provided above will give you an idea of the approach I take on these support forums (be they public or member only) and also how to weigh and consider other useful contributions. The products will still be here when you feel the time is right for you ;-)
"Everything will be all right in the end. If it isn't all right yet then it isn't the end."
#14 Guest_Robert_*
Posted 11 August 2011 - 12:03 AM
I can understand the feeling of Paulina. Honestly, it feels a bit like playing the "Russian roulette".
Jeremy, these answers are very lengthy, and it sounds more like a philisophical course about the duties of the support than just a technical confirmation ;-).
I am also in this technical configuration. As I am lazzy, I will just copy and paste the description of Paulina:
- WordPress address (URL)
http://localhost/www.mywebsite.co.za/wp
- Site address (URL)
http://localhost/www.mywebsite.co.za
Enter the address here if you want your site homepage to be different from the directory you installed WordPress.
- WordPress address (URL)
http://www.mywebsite.co.za/wp
- Site address (URL)
http://www.mywebsite.co.za
So really, is it working or not in this configuration?
Maybe I am wrong, but I don't see why this description or process should be really influenced by or would need a deeper knowledge of my sites to give an answer.
Thanks to confirm asap as new major client migration needs arise quickly on my side.
Posted 11 August 2011 - 10:49 AM
Thanks for posting [and for sharing your site configuration.]
BackupBuddy, while working even in such cases, is not currently always flexible with the URLs as mentioned in this scenario when it comes to importing.
The direct answer: Basically, BackupBuddy works fine in updating different WordPress and Site URLs, both being different, but does not update [when importing] things like text widgets or text widget settings, as an example [mainly in widgets] on the import end, for such sites where the WordPress URL and the Site URL is different.
Solution: An update to importbuddy.php is coming out soon [as this issue arises on the import side - the backup side works fine atm] that addresses this very specific issue and makes the import more flexible with such url differences [meaning it makes the actual import work perfectly or as much accurate as possible] in such scenarios the way it does with current sites where the WordPress and Site URL is the same.
Does that help? I hope that clears things up! When the new update comes out [any day now] you can actually use the new importbuddy.php it right away and let us know how it goes; hopefully it will work perfectly for your exact case right out of the box.
Please let us know if you've any other questions, and thanks for working this out with us!
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Posted 11 August 2011 - 12:18 PM
It's a Pre-Sales Forum where people are trying to make decisions about a product based on their requirements and "the devil is in the detail" as the saying goes ;-)
With all due respect there is insufficient information in your question to be able to make a definitive yes/no answer so all I can say is that if your installation matches the working scenario I gave (which when viewed externally matches your description) then it will work. If it doesn't match or you do not know whether it matches then you would be best advised to delay your purchase if this is your sole requirement - which is the same advise I gave to the OP :-)
If you would like me to explain then of course I can but I understand from your post that more detailed explanations may not be what you are looking for.
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#17 Guest_Pierre_*
Posted 31 August 2011 - 09:23 AM
Thanks Bes, first time that we see a proper and "real" answer from the support here about this problem.
But still waiting now for weeks & weeks. Has the problem been finally fixed?
Where is the titanium update announced for "now" more than one month ago?
Posted 31 August 2011 - 04:28 PM
GREAT news today:a brand new version of BackupBuddy has just been released:2.2.14which has MANY new features, including the first release of this exact function of flawlessly dealing with DIFFERENT WordPress URI and Site URI on the domain name. So the entire topic of WordPress address being different from the Site address in WordPress �> Settings is now resolved.
Please go ahead and download it from your Member's panel to test it out. For new/future customers, you can now rejoice and rest assured: you should have no problems at all if your WordPress URL is different than your Site URL in WordPress �> Settings area. BackupBuddy takes care of that perfectly in all of our thorough tests. :)
Since this is the first time we're releasing this exact fix for it,including the brand new MULTISITE Support, please test it out, let us know any suggestions you have, any errors/bugs you run into, etc. Your testing and feedback will let us know what to work on more, what to focus on, etc.
Please be sure to post only one post about each issue in only one forum/category/thread. (you can always pm me anytime to let me know if we miss any reply or topic)
You can post specific questions/comments/etc about this exact version release, if you're an existing customer, in the BackupBuddy forums: http://ithemes.com/forum/index.php?/forum/74-backupbuddy/
Questions related to BackupBuddy and Multisite specifically go in this category: http://ithemes.com/support/backupbuddy-ms/
Any Pre-sales related questions regarding this very topic can continue in this very thread, however. :)
Thank you SO VERY MUCH for being patient with us while we addressed this very issue. Let me know if you've any other questions.
(also posted in the other related thread: http://ithemes.com/forum/index.php?/topic/16452-come-on-backupbuddy-working-when-wordpress-address-is-different-from-the-site-address-general-settings/#p83427)
Edited by Bes Zain, 31 August 2011 - 12:32 PM.
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In 2007, fan clashes prior to a women's volleyball match between Olympiacos and Panathinaikos resulted in a fan death, causing Greece to suspend all of its team sports leagues for two weeks.
U.S. middle blocker Ryan Millar (Palmdale, Calif.) and outside hitter Scott Touzinsky (St. Louis, Mo.) posted a 3-2 (21-25, 23-25, 25-23, 26-24, 15-10) comeback victory over Halkbank with their Turkish team Istanbul Buyuksehir Belediye on Feb. 1.
Touzinsky scored 16 points on 15 kills and one ace while Millar had 14 points on 11 kills, two blocks and one ace.
Istanbul Buyuksehir Belediye is in second place in the Turkish league with a 12-3 record. Halkbank is in third at 11-4. Istanbul Buyuksehir Belediye will face first-place and undefeated Arkas Spor in its next match.
Brook Billings (Santa Barbara, Calif.) and his Turkish league team Fenerbahçe pulled of a 3-2 (18-25, 25-21, 25-21, 17-25, 15-8) victory over Ziraat Bankas? on Feb. 1. Billings scored four points on three kills and one block.
ACH Volley, which includes U.S. middle blocker Phil Eatherton (Glencoe, Mo.), remains undefeated at 13-0 in the Middle European Volleyball Association with a 3-0 (25-16, 25-18, 25-16) defeat of the Aon hotVolleys on Jan. 31. Eatherton scored six points on two kills and two blocks in the match.
Anderson, Fletcher (Okelljunga Volleybollklubb/Sweden)
Anderson, Matthew (Hyundai Capital Skywalkers/South Korea)
Ball, Lloy (Zenit Kazan/Russia)
Bates, Hudson (Adjuntas/Puerto Rico)
Beckwith, Paul (VCA HYPO Niederosterrich/Austria)
Billings, Brook (Fenerbahce/Turkey)
Brunner, Theodore (A.S. PAOK/Greece)
Budinger, Duncan (Landstede Zwolle/Netherlands)
Burik, Mark (Vingakers VK/Sweden)
Burrow, Ryan (Volejbalovy Oddil Pribram/Czech Republic)
Ching, Tony (Kastamonu Bozkurt/Turkey)
Daze, Jon (Marienlyst/Denmark)
Denmark, Matthew (Mets de Guaynabo/Puerto Rico)
Denmark, Matthew (A.C. Finike Syros/Greece)
Diehl, Michael (Anorthosis/Cyprus)
Durbin, Patrick (Adjuntas Gigantes/Puerto Rico)
Durbin, Patrick (Al-Ahli Club – Dubai/United Arab Emirates)
Dusharme, Mark (Loimaa Hurrikaani/Finland)
Eatherton, Phillip (ACH Volley/Slovenia)
Egan, David (Vingakers VK/Sweden)
Evans, Brian (HYPO VBK Klagenfurt/Austria)
Falknor, Timothy (Laon Volleyball Club/France)
Gardner, Gabriel (VC Ural, Ufa/Russia)
Green, Jason (Odbojkaski Klub Rovinj/Croatia)
Hansen, Kevin (Fakel New Urengoy/Russia)
Hildebrand, Tyler (Maccabi Arazim Raanana/Israel)
Hoff, Thomas (Olympiacos S.C./Greece)
Holmes, Russell (Naranjito/Puerto Rico)
Jablonsky, Jayson (Zinella Volley Bologna/Italy)
Kellum, Daniel (Loimaa Hurrikaani/Finland)
Klosterman, Steve (Lares Patriotas/Puerto Rico)
Kowalski, Bartlomiej (Volleyball Club Everbeur/Belgium)
Kozlarek, Christopher (VBK Worther-See-Lowen Klagenfurt/Austria)
Kraushaar, Kristopher (Lares Patriotas/Puerto Rico)
Lambourne, Richard (Belgorod/Russia)
Lee, David (Trenkwalder Modena/Italy)
Lotman, Paul (A.S. PAOK/Greece)
Luhning, Anthony (VBC Munchenbuchsee/Switzerland)
Macias, Carlos (Omonoia/Cyprus)
Mathews, Daniel (Al Ain Sports & Cultural Club/United Arab Emirates)
May, Timothy (Lares Patriotas/Puerto Rico)
McColloch, Kevin (VC Euphony Asse-Lennik/Belgium)
McKienzie, David (Dynamo Krasnodar/Russia)
McKinney, Matt (Gigantes de Carolina/Puerto Rico)
Meerstein, Nathan (Club Voleibol St. Pere I Sant Pav de Tarragona/Spain)
Millar, Ryan (Istanbul Buyuksehir Belediye/Turkey)
Munoz, Paul (Benfica/Portugal)
Newcomb, Bryan (Sport Club Cesis/Latvia)
Nielsen, Nils (M.G.S. Apollon Kalamarias/Greece)
Olree, Pieter (Al Jazira Sports & Cultural Club/United Arab Emirates)
Ondelj, Aleksandar (TV Buhl/Germany)
Owens, Ryan (Tampereen Isku Volley/Finland)
Patak, Evan (PAOK Thessaloniki/Greece)
Polster, James (Dynamo Krasnodar/Russia)
Porter, Dominick (Volleyball Club Dresden/Germany)
Priddy, William (Lokomotiv Novosibirsk/Russia)
Proper, Matthew (Ankara Sosyal Guvenlik Kusumu/Turkey)
Ptaschinski, Nicholas (Okelljunga Volleybollklubb/Sweden)
Rooney, Sean (Fakel New Urengoy/Russia)
Schkud, Jacob (VBK Worther-See-Lowen Klagenfurt/Austria)
Schlesinger, Adam (VBK Worther-See-Lowen Klagenfurt/Austria)
Scott, Damien (Al-Kuwait SC/Kuwait)
Scott, Jonathan (V.C. Sneek/Netherlands)
Scott, Quanshell (OK OTP Banka, Pula/Croatia)
Seiffert, Christopher (SGK Voleybol Ihtisas – Ankara/Turkey)
Smith, David (TVB Volleyball GmbH/Germany)
Soler, Jeffrey (Los Nuevos Gigantes de Carolina/Puerto Rico)
Soler, Jeffrey (TSV Giesen/Hildesheim/Germany)
Stafford, Ryan (TV1861 Rottenburg/Germany)
Stanley, Clayton (Zenit Kazan/Russia)
Suxho, Donald (Al Jazira Sports & Cultural Club/United Arab Emirates)
Tamas, Christopher (Isku-Volley/Finland)
Tarr, Robert (Al Shabab Sports Club/United Arab Emirates)
Thomas, Delano (ACH Volley/Slovenia)
Toppel, Curt (Gigantes de Carolina/Puerto Rico)
Toppel, Curt (Al-Arabi Sports Club/Qatar)
Touzinsky, Scott (Istanbul Belediyesi/Turkey)
Ullrich, Brock (Lares Patriotas/Puerto Rico)
Ullrich, Brock (Okelljunga Volleybollklubb/Sweden)
Vincent, Eric (Volleyball Club OK Marichol/Slovenia)
Walker, Lance (Polis Akademis ve Koleji Spor Kulubu/Turkey)
Webber, James Matthew (GFCO Ajaccio Volleyball/France)
Winder, Jonathan (Tourcoing/France)
Wooldridge, Eric (TVD Partizan - OK SIP Sempeter/Slovenia)
Zimmerman, Austin (VBC Biel-Bienne/Switzerland)


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Skip to comments.The John Batchelor Show Sunday June 1st, 2008
Posted on 06/01/2008 3:49:33 PM PDT by Perdogg
The John Batchelor Show Sunday June 1st, 2008
Listenlive from 7pm 10pm ET (4pm 7pm PT) on WABC AM 770 New York City
10pm 1am ET (7pm 10pm PT) on KFI AM 640 Los Angeles
The John Batchelor Show ping!
Fine. I'll volunteer to let both of you know if anything John says while you're away ever comes true...
thanks for the ping.
It would make no difference what Hitlery does, the Boma lemmings wouldn't think anything more of her.
Thank you for the reminder./Just Asking - seoul62.........
Hitlery won't leave the race as she figures something else could go down with Boma and the extreme left wings wackOs that could affect the race.
lawsuit against Saudi Arabia because of 9/11...2 banks involved with funding terrorist attacks...
John Loftus is probably involved some way in the lawsuit.
very complex...Wall St. and big banks financing terror...
Exposing the Hidden Jihad in America
*lawsuit against Saudi Arabia because of 9/11...2 banks involved*
If they wanted to get real, the lawsuit would have been against the Clintoon Adm. for the laundry list of events and attacks that were given a pass such as the 1993 bombing of the WTC
That will never happen...
Hillary in Puerto Rico...
'Vanity Fair' Probes Bill Clinton's 'Id' and Roving Eye — He Offers Angry Response
By E&P Staff
Published: June 01, 2008 2:40 PM ET
NEW YORK An article for Vanity Fair by former New York Times reporter Todd Purdum, set to appear this week, alleges that former President Bill Clinton is consumed by "cavernous narcissism" and that a former aide tried to pull an "intervention" 18 months ago, disturbed by stories of Clinton allegedly fooling around with women on the road. The former president "rebuffed" that attempt.
The article is now online at the magazine's site and it titled "The Comeback Id."
Purdum is married to former Clinton press secretary DeeDee Myers.
Clinton's office responded angrily Sunday, charging, "A tawdry, anonymous quote-filled attack piece, published in this months Vanity Fair magazine regarding former President Bill Clinton repeats many past attacks on him, ignores much prior positive coverage, includes numerous errors, and ultimately breaks no new ground.
It is, in short, journalism of personal destruction at its worst." Then if offers point-by-point rebuttal.
The article claims that Clinton, now 61, has gotten caught up in a world of rich friends in pursuit of making tens of millions of dollars since leaving office.
One former aide says: Theres an anger in him that I find surprising. There seems to be an abiding anger in him, and not just the summer thunderstorms of old. He has been called into question repeatedly by top staff."
Purdum writes: "Whatever the facts of Clintons personal life, it is beyond dispute that he has associated with some decidedly unpresidential company. In 2002, Clinton flew to Africa with the New York investor Jeffrey Epstein on his private Boeing 727 on an anti-aids and economic-development mission.
(Others on the mission included Kevin Spacey and the comedian Chris Tucker.) In 2006, Epstein was indicted on state charges of soliciting prostitution in Palm Beach, Florida, and he later came under investigation by federal authorities amid allegations that he hired under-age girls for massages and more in a house stocked with sex toys and genitalia-shaped soaps.
He remains the subject of at least four pending civil lawsuits from young women and is reportedly expected to accept a plea deal on a state charge that would give him 18 months in prison, followed by house arrest, in lieu of a trial now set to begin this month."
I read that article today, and it is a real attack on Bill clinton, with all kinds of unethical charges since he left office. Dee Dee's husband has really gone after him...
This is probably a fraction of what could be published by not only VF but other publications.
I know several Democrats who not only would not vote for Hitlers but can't stand Obama. Today speaking with one
Democrat in his 50s and also gay said many of his other gay friends arn't voting for Obama.
He said when he hears, time for a change he says time to Change the channel
It's unbelievable. These people were enablers during the 90s now they are complaining about the Clintons.
I predict Bill Clinton will be the talk of Washington this week because of that VF article...
According to John Batchelor, Obama is going to claim victory in 48 hours...
Thanks for the ping. This is going to get nasty with banks/terror connection. Did I hear that right??????
Thanks Perdogg..I almost missed the show:)
I saw Buchenwald in East Germany in 1983
Around 57,000 humans died there
The town, Arnhem, Netherlands the author speaks of re Market Garden I was also in that town. Much of it hit bad at that time.
bridge at Remaggen I also saw that area on my way to Kolon.
It is important to see these type of areas, just reading doesn't do it.
Also went through the Ann Frank house.
Glad JB deals also with history on his program.
Stories about Obama involving "A major religious figure in Chicago." John "will not go there," yet.
Hate Hitlery but glad she is not folding and going on to the convention.
Yep, on the KFI show, a guest just used the word "suspend" for what the witch might do in her campaign.
Rev. Pfleger: "America is the Greatest Sin Against God"
Hey wait a minute... i'm not falling for it. Obama slammed the white priest a heck of a lot faster than Wright or his grandmother... racism!
My bad... he's a white man (even though no one told him)
Hey there Ali,
don't know if you saw an earlier posting of mine but a real
hoot earlier today.
Up the street sitting out having ice tea and reading the paper and one of the neighbors came by and sat to talk politics.
This is a gay guy in his 50s, he said he can't stand Hitlery or Obama.
Several of his gay friends also not voting for Obama.
He said when he hears him say time for a change, he said time to Change the chanel.
It was a set up.
Obama Campaign Secured PR Firm To Represent Wright & TUCC
Oh, you'll like this too (see update):
More... Fr. Pfleger Rants Against Whitey at Obama's Church (Video) ...Update: Axelrod Is Pfleger's Chair. Oh and working on a movie re: Pfleger.
Oh btw, this will not stop me from putting out the three black, gay, male church members killed in a month's span from Trinity... one of which contacted a certain person.
Come on Tuesday.
You remember how he dissed Newsom twice re: not taking a picture with him... he also snubbed the black and gay press. So what was his call, butch or femme?
So who should we take out first, Daschle and Axelrod?
I can't wait for the video of Boma's wife and her whitey remarks. I understand FOX may have it.
*So who should we take out first, Daschle and Axelrod?*
Make it the same day and have a doubleheader
Michelle Obamas Brother: Craig Malcolm Robinsons Senior Princeton Thesis Revealed
It is always racism. This bunch has lived in such privilege and elitism. They are the racist.
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The City recently closed neighborhood Fire Station 39, near Avenue 64 and Colorado Boulevard, because an independent safety audit showed it posed a "significant risk of structural failure" in a major earthquake (see full study at www.cityofpasadena.net/fire).
After looking at over 400 potential sites (which were deemed unacceptable due to narrow streets, topography, size and/or condition of the properties), City staff identified the lower playground of the San Rafael Elementary School as the best site. The City and Pasadena Unified School District (PUSD) are in discussions regarding the terms of the proposed City use of the property. City staff is preparing to have the current Station 39 torn down as a possible backup location in case the school site is not available. Of course, that would mean a new temporary location would still need to be identified before construction of the replacement facility could begin.
Historically, Station 39 responds to an average of about 2 calls per day so the impacts on the neighborhood should be minimal. It is a common misnomer that red lights and sirens are used every time a fire vehicle leaves the station. When responding in residential neighborhoods at night, the siren is only used when traffic is encountered. Firefighters are very good neighbors. It has been said that "the two most difficult things for a Fire Chief to do are to open a neighborhood fire station and close a neighborhood fire station."
The Department prefers to house a regular fire engine with four personnel if the site can safely accommodate the equipment and temporary living quarters. However, a smaller two-person vehicle may be necessary based on site constraints. In either case, paramedic services will be restored.
Engine 39 is currently in Reserve status and used by other stations to ensure optimal performance, which is dramatically decreased when parked for long periods of time. The crew members assigned to Station #39 prior to its closing have been used to fill existing vacancies within the Fire Department. The engine will be returned to servicing District 39 as soon as a replacement station can be built
The actual time frame for opening the temporary Station is predicated on reaching agreement with the Pasadena Unified School District for use of the San Rafael School site and the City obtaining a Conditional Use Permit (CUP). The City's goal was to have the temporary Station #39 open before the end of the year, but this no longer seems possible based on the recent concerns expressed with using the school site and the extended time associated with obtaining the CUP.
A Conditional Use Permit involves developing a clear description of how the temporary station will operate as well as an analysis of the potential environmental impacts, in compliance with the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA). This analysis will consider amongst other things traffic and noise. The application for the Conditional Use Permit will be considered by a Hearing Officer at a publicly noticed hearing wherein any interested party may speak in favor or in opposition to the proposed land-use.
The temporary station and the design for the new station are being funded with capital funds remaining from the recent seismic retrofit of City Hall. Capital funds to build the replacement station have not yet been identified and will likely need to be combined with the funding needed to resolve the structural and operational issues at six other fire stations in Pasadena. The total cost of which is estimated at $70 million.
The design phase of the project, which is already underway, should be completed in the Fall of 2012. Construction is estimated to take between 18 and 24 months after the contract is awarded. However, the construction contract cannot be awarded until funding has been identified and appropriated to the project.
The closure of any station will likely have impacts on response times within that district and across the City as fewer personnel are available to respond to simultaneous calls. District 39 has seen an average increase in response times of approximately two minutes since the station closure.
The Fire Department has automatic aid agreements with surrounding fire agencies. As a result, the closest available fire agency will respond. These include: Los Angeles City, South Pasadena, and Pasadena's own Stations #31 and #38.
Download District 39 Fact Sheet & FAQs
For further questions or to request a firefighter to present to your neighborhood group, please contact Emergency Management Coordinator Lisa Derderian at (626) 744-7276 or email@example.com


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food interaction for D.D.PRAMINE
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Q. Does clomipramine work for obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD)?
Yes, clomipramine is used for obsessive-compulsive disorder. Patients should follow the advice of the doctor regarding its use.


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Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton attended the Pacific Islands Forum (PIF) Post Forum Dialogue in the Cook Islands on August 31, 2012, as part of our intensive engagement and ongoing collaboration with the Pacific Islands. Secretary Clinton led the highest-level U.S. interagency delegation in the 41-year history of the Forum with senior officials from the Departments of State, Defense, and Interior.
In remarks at the Dialogue, Secretary Clinton said, "...The Obama Administration has made a major push to increase our engagement across the Asia Pacific. This is a vast and dynamic region, a key driver of global economic and politics, and the United States has a historical presence in this region. That's why I have said that the 21st century will be America's Pacific century, with an emphasis on Pacific."
The Secretary's visit to the Cook Islands emphasized the depth and breadth of American engagement across economic, people-to-people, strategic, environmental, and security interests in the Pacific. During the visit, Secretary Clinton joined Admiral Samuel J. "Sam" Locklear III, Commander of U.S. Pacific Command, and U.S. Coast Guard Rear Admiral Charles W. Ray to address U.S. peace and security partnerships in the Pacific. Secretary Clinton said:
"I know there are those who see America's renewed engagements over the last three and a half years in the Pacific perhaps as a hedge against particular countries. But the fact is, as I said this morning, the United States welcomes cooperation with a number of partners, including Japan, the European Union, China, and others. The Pacific is big enough for all of us. We share a common interest in advancing peace, security, and prosperity in this vital region."
Australia, France, New Zealand, and the United States announced steps to strengthen aerial and surface maritime surveillance that supports the efforts of Pacific Island countries. Japan and the United States released a joint statement on aid coordination in the Pacific and reaffirmed their continued dedication to promoting stability, prosperity, and sustainable development in the entire region.
Secretary Clinton participated in an event on sustainable development and conservation in the region and announced two new programs through the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID). Secretary Clinton said, "...the first [program will] target vulnerable coastal areas. We will provide $25 million over the next five years to help communities improve their infrastructure, enhance their ability to respond to natural disasters, and create long-term plans to adapt to climate change. The second program will help improve clean energy infrastructure across the Pacific Islands. We will provide training and education for technicians and engineers to install, maintain, and repair solar energy equipment."
Secretary Clinton also participated in the Rarotonga Dialogue on Gender Equality. The Secretary underscored the importance of women in the region. She said, "...When women are unequal participants, economic growth is undermined. Development is stymied. Communities and countries are robbed of the contributions that women could make."
The governments of Australia, New Zealand, and the United States launched the Rarotonga Partnership for the Advancement of Pacific Island Women -- a collaborative initiative to build capacity, support emerging women leaders, and establish networks for sustainable leadership development in the region. While in the Cook Islands, Secretary Clinton held a trilateral meeting with Australian Parliamentary Secretary for Foreign Affairs Richard Marles and New Zealand Foreign Minister Murray McCully to promote broader cooperation in the Pacific.
Secretary Clinton also met with New Zealand Prime Minister John Key. During a joint press availability with the Prime Minister, Secretary Clinton said, "As the first Secretary of State to make this journey, I am especially delighted and honored. I was pleased to meet with leaders of the Pacific Island Forum, member states, to attend the Pacific Island Forum, post-forum dialogue where I had a chance to reaffirm the Obama Administration's commitment to our engagement in the Asia Pacific with an equal emphasis on the Pacific part of that phrase. The United States is very proud to be a Pacific nation, a long history in this region, and we are committed to be here for the long run."
The visit represented a concerted effort to strengthen regional multilateral institutions, develop bilateral partnerships, and build on alliances -- three core elements of U.S. strategy toward the Asia-Pacific. You can read more about U.S. engagement in the Pacific here.
You can follow Secretary Clinton's travel to the Pacific, East Asia, and Russia from August 30 to September 9 here.


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2012 Coaches of the Year
February 5, 2013
USA Team Handball is proud to announce the 2012 winners in the categories of National Coach of the Year, Developmental Coach of the Year, and Volunteer Coach of the Year.
The selection committee was composed of Athletes' Advisory Council Representative Tomuke ("T") Ebuwei, Sonja Hansen, USA Team Handball President Jeff Utz, USATH CEO Matt Van Houten and USATH Technical Director Mariusz Waralowicz.
The 2012 National Coach of the Year is Richard Kluz, from the New York City Team Handball Club
Richard's dedication, commitment and passion for the sport are unmatched in the USA handball community. Richard is always the one to show up for every practice session, help making sure the gym is prepared for play. For the fourth time in five years, Richard Kluz led a team of different players to the most coveted title of the year, the USA Elite National Championship. His passion is the biggest motivation for the players, and the experience he brings to the table has helped many athletes to become the best they can be. Kluz has been an important part of New York City Team Handball Club, and its mere existence. Richard is deserving of the National Coach of the Year award, not only because of his experience and what he has contributed for the last 30 years, but also because of his distinguished record of winning 4 out of the last 5 National Club Championships, winning the West Point Invitational 4-times in a row, and winning the Northeast League title for the 6th time in a row. His passion, experience and dedication to keep the club alive were the main reason why the NYC club has been a leader in helping to grow and develop the sport of team handball in New York, and in the United States of America.
The 2012 Developmental Co-Coaches of the Year are Attila Agoston, Robert Michalik, and Dede Piankova
Attila Agoston has served as the head coach of the U14/U16 boy's youth USA national team and has served as an assistant coach of the U20 boy's USA National Team. Moreover, Agoston is the co-founder, member of the Board of Directors, and Head Coach of both the Men's and Women's teams of Denver Team Handball Club in Colorado. He is also the Director of the Denver's youth programs. In 2010, Agoston became the Volunteer Coach of the Year as the only coach in USATH to coach both men's and women's teams to medals at the 2010 Nationals (Men - Open Division Bronze Medal, Women - Elite Division Bronze Medal). As part of his developmental coaching in 2012, Agoston did a great job coaching the U16 boy's USA National Team during the Olympic Development Program and tournament in Gothenburg, Sweden. The U.S. Played in the first category group with a record of two wins and two losses. Following the Olympic Development/Solidarity tournament the U16 team participated in the world's biggest youth team handball tournament, the Partille Cup. The U16 team didn't have a full roster and some key players were injured, but the team led by Agoston beat the Indian National Team and played very close games against the pro-European club teams with one win and five losses. In addition, as an assistant coach of the U20 boys USA National Team, Agoston participated in the IHF Trophy Cup in Mexico City, Mexico. At the IHF Trophy tournament, the U20 team played in the bronze medal game and had a great fight against the Canadian National Team where USA was leading almost the entire game before losing in the final minute.
Robert Michalik: Robert Michalik is the coach of the Ocean New Jersey team handball team. His story of coaching can truly be looked at as one of "rags to riches". About three years ago, Michalik, having been a handball player and coach himself back in Poland, decided to start his own team handball team in New Jersey. He had written personal letters inviting girls to join his team, yet each girl who decided to join had little to no previous knowledge of this new, mysterious sport. At the first practice, the girls were introduced to handball for the first time. Many of them could barely grasp it, with the score of the first game being 0-32 and a handful of injuries, discouragement, and tears. While most coaches would have been disheartened by such results, Michalik continued to believe in the girls even when they did not believe in themselves. He persistently pushed them to be the best they could be, working hard at practices and always telling them to keep their heads high.
Despite all of the setbacks, Michalik was successful in creating a young yet strong team. Currently, almost all of the girls have at one point represented the United States in tournaments around the world. Scores of games changed drastically, with the Jersey Girls now defeating teams almost by double the score. The Jersey Girls started out with nothing, and ended up stronger than teams twice their age. None of this would have been possible without the patience, drive, and high spirit of Robert Michalik.
Not only is Michalik a magnificent coach, he also has a heart of gold. The girls would easily describe him as a second father. He treats each girl on the team as if she were his own. Not once has he ever yelled at the girls or put them down. While some coaches choose to take a tough approach, Michalik has always used a positive, compassionate approach with the girls. Every birthday and holiday is celebrated with the team. He emphasizes the fact that the girls must always have fun with the sport and they must enjoy each other's company and, most importantly, enjoy playing the game. Because of this, his group keeps growing. What started out as about ten teenage girls has now grown into two groups of players - a younger group and an older group, consisting of about 20 players each. When someone thinks about the future of team handball, surely it lies here in New Jersey with Coach Robert Michalik. Through handball, the girls have become closer than ever. Michalik has created something special in their lives they will never forget. They belong to something greater - something important. They love the sport, and now cannot imagine their lives without it. All of this happened thanks to a man with hopes of starting something marvelous, and succeeding beyond his wildest dreams.
Dede Piankova: Dede Piankova has worked tirelessly to promote and grow the sport of team handball in the United States. She coached and refereed the Houston Stars club at Southwest Indoor Soccer Facility, organized, developed, and coached handball in Austin while creating the four-team Austin City League, and organized, developed, and coached in the Texas State League consisting of teams from Austin, San Marcos, College Station, Houston, and Dallas. She has helped train players and coaches for San Marcos and Dallas handball clubs, as well.
Piankova coached national teams in Uruguay and the Dominican Republic in the Pan-American Championships in both Beach Handball and Team Handball. She introduced handball to the students at multiple private schools in austin, coached Children's Summer camps at the University of Texas for three consecutive years, coached the San Francisco Smurfs, and won the Women's 2012 Fremont International Tournament and took them to the U.S. National Championships. In addition, Piankova initiated and accepted leadership for USATH Beach Handball committee.
Piankova coached the men's team from San Diego at the Huntington Beach Handball Invitational and won second place in the 16-team tournament. She helped organize, coach and referee during the CalHeat International Beach Handball Tournament. She also coached CalHeat and refereed at the Beach Handball Fall Tournament at Seacliff State Beach, Aptos, Ca., in 2012.
Piankova developed programs in three school districts in Marin County, Calif., with a two-times a week play program. This included over 200 students in 6th, 7th, 8th, and 8th grade, who now regularly play handball.
The 2012 Volunteer Coach of the Year is Wade Sutton of the North Carolina Team Handball Club
Wade volunteers his time and money to locally coach (head or assistant) five teams - Carolina Blues (alumni men), Carolina (women), Tar Heels (women), Carolina (men's). Sutton relentlessly dedicated his time over the last decade to develop and sustain a women's collegiate program at the University of North Carolina, while continuing to volunteer his time for the men's college and alumni program. This is no easy task for anyone who has attempted to create a club reliant on recruiting solely American players. His dedication paid off through the years as Chapel Hill became a strong hub for handball with sustaining men's and women's programs. Sutton has spent countless hours volunteering his time to help new coaches, developing completely new players, planning tournaments, traveling to tournaments, and involving himself with USATH for the betterment of handball through the United States. Sutton is truly deserving of the recognition of Volunteer Coach of the Year for USA Team Handball.


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Posted on 08/11/2013 7:39:08 PM PDT by Morgana
FULL TITLE: Autism breakthrough as 'genetic signature' in babies as young as a year found; blood test in the works
A GENETIC "signature" of autism in babies as young as 12 months has been identified for the first time, an international conference is to be told.
A simple blood test is now being developed and may be available in one to two years, Professor Eric Courchesne will tell the Asia Pacific Autism conference in Adelaide today.
"This discovery really changes the landscape of our understanding of causes and effective treatments," says the director of the Autism Centre of Excellence at the University of California in San Diego.
"This is going to lead to much better treatments at a much earlier stage and a large percentage of children having an excellent outcome."
He said the several gene networks that are a common thread in autism have been identified for the first time.
"During the fourth, fifth and sixth months of pregnancy, they disrupt the production of brain cells, producing too many or in some cases too few, and how the cells are organised and connected," he said.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...
Fourth month of pregnancy. Sounds like a prenatal test is in the works too.
Oh you know there's a prenatal test in the works. If they can't cure it en utero then the solution will be _______.
Exactly what I was thinking.
I grew up in the 50's and 60's. I don't recall any of the kids in any of my classes having autism.
Does anyone?
Maybe they were in special schools or institutionalized. I was in elementary school in the 60's and don't remember any autistic kids, either.
I knew two kids with autism in the 60s.
I taught 1st grade for 2 years in the mid-fifties and autism was unheard of.
I grew up in the 50s and 60s. I dont recall any of the kids in any of my classes having autism.."
I'm a bit older than you but we didn't have autism, ADD or ADHD back then. My kids were both born in the 60's - none of their friends suffered from autism, ADD or ADHD then either. I do recall the school principal saying that the little boys in my son's first grade class were "the orneriest bunch of boys he'd ever had in that school" but they were all boy and just not ready to sit down and be quiet all day. They changed the teacher from a young single gal to an older grandmother type later in the year and that helped some.
IMO, many little boys just are not ready for all that structure at age six. I also think that all those meds benefit the teachers, not the children.
The first time I recall ever hearing any of these terms mentioned was in the late 1990's or early 2000's. Either these kids were suddenly being labeled or something else drastically changed, including the kind of teachers being hired, a redefinition of parent's responsibilities, change in what was in their food, ....???
They were not in your classes. They've always been around.
Does anyone?
There were undoubtedly a few. Its just that they were probably completely ignored and rejected by their peers with no understanding how or why they were that way.
Think perhaps of a few people who might have done well in school and might have even gone on to support themselves with a job but were never able to find any friends.
The mental disorders are often the invisible disabilities. There is frequently no outwards appearance, and the challenges these people face are readily dismissed by the masses as a defect in morals.
Exactly. It was virtually unknown. I do remember a few families where there was a child with Down's Syndrome. There is a book about autism that was written in the 1950s that effectively disproves the genetic theory. I recommend it, a fascinating book: "Pathways to Madness", by Jules Henry.
There is no way to operate on the brain in Vitro, so yes, abortion will be what happens. Also, there is no way to operate on a brain network after birth and re-wire it.
What they are saying is, if the baby is born, they will know to start remediation soon, rather than the way it is now, when the child could be undiagnosed for years.
The psychological guidelines for autism used to have strict parameters. In my many years of psychologically testing children, I only tested two that I diagnosed as having Autism. These days, it is a loose bag of symptoms.
and sadly a reason for some to abort when they get the news.
No-—even in the 70's-—The epidemic started when I had my children in the 80's—and I had never heard about it-—and knew people teaching for decades who didn't hear of it. I was into child development and my sister is a nurse.
It is a toxin—probably from vaccines——they upped the number of vaccines in the 80's and reduced the ages-—and massively inject newborns, now with insane cr(p-—like Hep B .
All vaccines have known toxins and babies have no ability of excreting toxins from the brain. That is fact-—all toxins go directly to the brain to kill cells.
Boys are 3 times as likely to get Autism-—same as for Mercury poisoning-—boys are more succeptible because of testosterone reactions to toxins.
This is nothing but the power of the State to monitor the brains of your children-—and destroy them. Think of their ability to "label" your children even more so than they do in public schools today-—and at BIRTH. Evil and insidious. They made up Dyslexia (Blumenfeld) when John Dewey destroyed our education system and all of a sudden the literacy rate plummeted. They wanted to put blame on parents and deflect it from the true cause-—public schools. That was in the 30's-—it is way more Marxist now.
Corporations have controlled our govt. for more than 80 years and "education" and all media/books/curricula since the early 1900's is to control perceptions of the masses. They Lie. It is proven over and over. The Corporations/Government want billions dead and not reproducing-—never trust them.
JS Mill predicted this-—Government will destroy Freedom and kill its own populace——it is the nature of government which is always an evil.
And what about the severe autistics that still wear diapers at 12, have never spoken a word or made eye contact?
Remember classes with them?
I never knew of any such thing in the '80s.
My mother was SpecEd teacher, very good. When she went for Masters in the '70s she said they hardly touched on autism.
As with everything, we believe autism is being expanded (spectrum!) to include everyone so we all have some disease or condition. And schools have a SpecEd cash cow.
You are correct.
I know a family where one of their several children was institutionalized after mental health workers said that the child would possibly be a bad influence on the siblings.
The child was about ten years old at the time the (appx 1965). Once in an institution the child picked up behaviors from the other residents as autistic children tend to do, thus complicating a diagnosis and bringing about a pharmaceutical attempt at a cure. When the movement away from large institutions came about there was an opportunity to treat the (now adult) person outside of the influences of an institution and it was determined that the only appropriate diagnosis was autism. The person is doing well in a group home setting now and works at a paying job.
My point in telling this is that even though autism was discovered earlier, there was not a quick acceptance of the condition and certainly no uniformity in treatments. Many children were routinely sent to institutions and were not part of the student body. They weren't included because it was thought that their condition might rub off on the 'regular' kids.
Yes, there was a boy in my elementary school who had exhibited several of the symptoms. He was very odd, but functioned well enough to be kept with other kids.
I was lucky enough to go to a very nice suburban elementary school. If he had been at a more typical school, he would have been bullied I'm certain.
Do you remember any kids who seemed out of sync with the social side of things? Maybe someone who could get good grades but couldn't pick up on non-verbal cues? Anyone who seemed unusually sensitive to noise, touch, or chaos? "Autism" covers a pretty broad spectrum. I'm pretty sure that if my family were tested, at least half would have it in some form, all the way back to my grandfather.
Including me.
Aspartame was approved in 1981....
It's probably epigenetic.
There must have been some awareness of autism in the 50s, because there was an Elvis movie, with Mary Tyler Moore, I think, where Elvis was a doctor and MTM was a nun and there was an autistic little girl who was one of Elvis' patients.
There were certainly some who today would be diagnosed as 'on the spectrum'. That is, awkward and socially inept. But autism was both only an extreme diagnosis and very rare.
no doubt-—and corn syrup is put into everything-—and wireless.....it is overload.
I grew up in the 50s and 60s. I dont recall any of the kids in any of my classes having autism.
Does anyone?
UFO abductions started after that time period and autism rates skyrocketed, coincidence????
Just kidding, or am I?
You are talking about normal anti-social qualities-—which are because of environments/habituation.
You can tell the difference with neuron damage-—it is more like mercury poisoning-—much more than just "odd" behavior—abnormal brain/movements.
Socially backward parents will model that behavior to their children and children will copy it.
It is dangerous when corporations/schools make billions off of abnormal kids and vaccines/pills. They have started drugging millions of boys-—who were like Einstein/Edison/Mark Twain who were bored in schools——why put toxins in kids—when you don't even understand the effects of psychotrophic drugs-—but understand they create Kip Kinkles and Adam Lanzas and the Columbine kids.
All of a sudden we need to "medicate" little kids (insanity and evil)-—50 years ago that would NOT have been allowed-—it would have been seen for the evil that it is.
I suffered from being self conscious and shy in school. Was given derisive looks by the popular kids at times and the other half seemingly invisible. Picked last for gym teams, unless it was my best friend choosing, that wonderful stocky-built girl with the Mohawk and kind, accepting nature. I remember my own mother fighting with me in my bedroom when I was 6 years old, at one point pulling my hair, to make me go out and talk to the girl down the block that had come calling. Guess she didn't understand I wasnt in the mood to play with the girl after her sister accused me of "Pushing" her when we were skipping down the sidewalk and she fell and busted her chin a bit. I thought I was just "shy always heard that word from family. But after having come across this word Aspergers and read up on it I'm convinced I probably have it.
I have 2 heart conditions that were only "discovered" in the last 10-20 years. Does that mean that no one had it before, no, it means they didn't know what to call it and many people were told that they were crazy for not feeling well most of the time....
Also, I grew up in the 70's and know of at least one person that had autism. Most kids were put in special ed or special schools so they wouldn't be in regular classrooms anyway. As kids we wouldn't have been aware of "special" kids for the most part....
>> Does anyone?
I was forced to deal with it and learn awareness and control - turned out to be one of those folks who maintained a 4.0 in college with a minimum of studying. Still can't focus on anything long enough to develop a real avocation, but I can get along in society and earn my own way.
I am a bit introverted and prefer to deal on a cerebral level vs. emotionally - hence the hanging around FR since shortly after 9/11. I've been aware of this for a few decades but this is the first I considered it as being tied to the other "issues".
Structure starts in the home first and foremost, if a child is never taught to sit still they have a hard time having to do it in school. This goes for girls as well as boys.
Like every one else only case of a lingering illness was a Polio case in HS.
Did not start seeing any ADD and such until my own kids hit school age. getting a label on a kid gets the school more money.
The book did not disprove genetic theory. It explored social interaction and behavioral conditioning and its effects on mental illness and published in the mid 60's.
Did you read the book? By demonstrating that autism is the result of faulty familial communication, the book decimated the genetic theory.
Finding a correlation between behavior and an affliction doesn't disprove other possible contributing factors, it only proves, should the research be repeatedly testable and duplicated, that a behavioral component exists.
I had forgotten all about polio. Remember when I was small my mom took me to the hospital to see someone who was in an iron lung. Long time ago and it was a scary illness.
Kids today get so many more vaccinations beginning when they are quite young than my kiddos had. Have often wondered how much the introduction of who knows what into their bodies contributes to these issues.
I agree structure has to start in the home. I would suspect that most families no longer all even sit down together for breakfast and dinner. This is a great forum to talk about manners and behaving, particularly if it starts off with a prayer of thanks.
Back in the 60s kids with autism were usually called retarded and were put away institutions. Dr. Temple Grandin was diagnosed with autism in 1949. Luckily for her, her parents were rich and her mother fought until she found knowledgeable doctors was able to send her to a boarding school that specialized in autistic and other mental issues. The time she spent in public schools up until that point were nightmarish. The other kids either tormented her or ignored her.
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Tuesday, August 20, 2013
Brazilian Black Hawks to Receive Avionics Upgrades
The Brazilian Air Force fleet will begin receiving support from Pacific Avionics for its fleet of UH-60 Black Hawk helicopters, the company said Monday.
(Brazilian AF Major Solano - Black Hawk operations coordinator at the Manaus Air Force Base, and Moises Bentivoglio, Pacific Avionics director of sales and marketing. Photo, courtesy of Pacific Avionics.)
Pacific signed a $2.2 million contract to provide the support for the Black Hawk avionics, instruments and ground test equipment.
The contract is one of the first of its type to be awarded to a foreign company from the Brazilian Aeronautical Commission.
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Lupin the Third - The Woman Called Fujiko Mine
The Woman Called Fujiko Mine (Part 1)
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Oscar's body is missing, girls are being kidnapped all over the world, and Lupin still hasn't made good on his threat to steal Fujiko Mine. There's only one thing to do: It's time to pay a visit to one Count Luís Yu Almeida.
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THE HIDDEN HAND- The Resurrection Of Whiskey Foote (Southern Lord)
Wino. The most powerful name in doom metal, back to conquer stoners, schizophrenics, and riff-worshipers alike. Scott "Wino" Weinrich's repertoire of incredible bands he's been a part (THE OBSESSED, SPIRIT CARAVAN, and SAINT VITUS specifically) includes his latest project THE HIDDEN HAND, who unfortunately at the time of this writing have since disbanded. The Resurrection Of Whiskey Foote is the band's third full-length, along with a couple EPs that altogether amounts for a nice discography for only being together five years. THE HIDDEN HAND certainly aren't my favorite Wino-related band, but anything with his name on it means that I will check it out no questions asked. A themed album based around the fictitious character Whiskey Foote and set in early America, The Resurrection Of Whiskey Foote from the outside seem primed to be a massive Americana-style doom epic, like ACROSS TUNDRAS with more folk and even more riffs. Not the case. The album generally doesn't give off that kind of dusty, desolate, wandering-across-the-open-plains feel that I was expecting and hoping for, so that's my fault for judging the album based on my preconceived notions. It took me many listens to really begin appreciating it for what it was; a solid collection of hard rockin' tunes. Now admittedly there is still no doubt that Wino has written better riffs and better songs in the past, and while I'm not saying the river of creativity has dried up, it seems about that time. The dude has been cranking them out like he was Iommi himself for so damn long, its about time he started to run out of ideas. The presence of meandering atonal doom riffs sometimes take the place of the fluid spacy melodies and jagged crunch of the riffage that made bands like SPIRIT CARAVAN so absolutely stunning. There are plenty of riffs and hooks to be sure, but I just wish there were a little more. Anyhow Wino's trademark vocals are still present, and the rhythm section rocks in that perfect old school way. The Resurrection Of Whiskey Foote is a grower, and while it could have been done better, it's still an enjoyable listen.
"Purple Neon Dream" starts the album much in the way that I envisioned, which further duped me because the rest of the record sounds almost nothing like it. The hazy mellow intro line gives way to an ethereal sounding vocal melody, but in the end the song feels maddeningly underdeveloped and way too brief. If they had done more songs like this and actually stretched them into fully realized compositions this record would be a blinder. "Dark Horizons" does retain a similar vibe, that kind of midnight vagabond feel that I really enjoy. They bust out the real riffs though on songs like the "The Lesson" and the title track, along with some smokin' harmonica on "Lightning Hill" and the bluesy "Slow Rain." The drums have a great crisp sound to them, especially the cymbals, and the bass is brought out well during the solos.
Now that THE HIDDEN HAND is no longer, watch out for Wino's new project with members of NEUROSIS and SLEEP/OM called "SHRINEBUILDER."
Dude, I hate this album. I love stoner rock, don't get me wrong. But there's something wrong with the riffs entirely consisting of one drone-y chord.
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The purpose of this white paper is to provide a thorough understanding of dairy operations, especially overall electricity consumption by the dairy farm. Some of the applications that use electricity on a dairy farm include lighting, electric water heating, ventilation, milk cooling and milk harvesting. Through literature surveys and information gathered from other public sources, this paper details the share of electricity used by each of the categories. It also identifies ways to improve the efficiency of operations using energy efficiency technologies, and reviews water usage on dairy farms.
Another area for new learning comes from the evaluation of alternative cow cooling methods such as ground source heat pumps (GSHP). The white paper includes descriptions of current cooling methods employed on dairy farms, as well as some emerging cooling methods.
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U.S. Short Track National Championships, Dec. 20-22, Kearns, Utah
Two-time Olympic medalist J.R. Celski won the men's 9-lap time trial and 2010 Olympian Lana Gehring won the women's 9-lap time trial Thursday as the U.S. Short Track National Championships began at the Utah Olympic Oval in Kearns, Utah.
The three-day competition will determine the rosters for the Winter World Cup and World Championship squads, in addition to crowning the men's and women's national champions. The same format will be used at the U.S. Long Track National Championships next week, also in Kearns.
"This weekend is a different vibe, for sure," said Celski, whose time of 1:23.953 was followed by Chris Creveling as runner-up and Kyle Carr in third place. "It's fun to test yourself against all your teammates that you practice with every day."
"I'm happy with the way things worked out today," Creveling said. "I think I can do a little better when racing comes around and that's going to be fueling me for the whole weekend."
For each race, athletes are awarded points based on their finish. The combined point total from the 9-lap, 4-lap and 1500m will be used to seed athletes in the 500m race.
Celski, who won two medals at the Vancouver 2010 Olympic Winter Games, became the first skater to break the 40-second mark in the 500 earlier this year. He won World Cup gold in Calgary with a blazing time of 39.937 seconds.
Gehring won the women's 9-lap time trial and finished runner-up in the 4-lap time trial behind Alyson Dudek.
Coming up in speed skating:
U.S. Long Track National Championships, Dec. 27-31, Kearns, Utah
FIS World Cup Alpine, women's slalom and giant slalom, Dec. 28-29, Semmering, Austria
Mikaela Shiffrin will be among the U.S. skiers competing next week in an FIS World Cup women's alpine event in Semmering, Austria. Shiffrin, 17, grabbed the World Cup points lead in slalom with a victory Thursday in Are, Sweden. She became the third youngest American to win a World Cup event.
"I was just trying to fly," she said. "I couldn't imagine what winning (a World Cup event) would feel like. I only knew the feeling of knowing you've skied your best."
Lindsey Vonn, the four-time World Cup overall champion, will not ski in Semmering because she is still not fully recovered from a stomach ailment. She returned to the United States this week.
TV: 1 p.m. ET Dec. 29, Universal Sports
Webcast: 4:30 a.m. ET Dec. 28, universalsports.com
FIS Super Continental Cup, Freestyle Aerials, Dec. 21-22, Park City, Utah
Emily Cook, a two-time Olympian, and Ashley Caldwell, a 2010 Olympian returning from a knee injury, will be among the U.S. freestyle skiers competing Friday and Saturday at the FIS Super Continental Cup in Park City, Utah. It is the first major event of the season for the U.S. Freestyle Ski Team. Caldwell has been out of action since injuring her knee last year.
"I'm really looking forward to our first event of the season," Cook said. "The UOP (Utah Olympic Park) has done such a great job of helping us prepare for the season with a great early winter site, and we are looking forward to hosting a large international field with teams from Canada, Great Britain and Russia. Our team has been jumping great, from the developmental level to the World Cup team, and this early season event will be a great opportunity for us to test and fine-tune our skills before heading to China for the first World Cup of the season."
Also in skiing:
FIS World Cup Ski Cross, Dec. 22-23, Innichen/San Candido, Italy
FIS World Cup Alpine, men's downhill, Dec. 27-29, Bormio, Italy
TV: 10:30 a.m. ET Dec. 29, Universal Sports
FIS World Cup Ski Jumping, men, Dec. 29-30, Oberstdorf, Germany
FIS World Cup Ski Jumping, men, Dec. 31-Jan. 1, Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Germany
FIS World Cup Cross Country, Dec. 29-30, Oberhof, Germany
FIS World Cup Snowboarding, men's and women's parallel GS, Dec. 21, Carezza, Italy
IIHF World Junior Championship, Dec. 26-Jan. 5, Ufa, Russia
The U.S. National Junior Team will face Germany Dec. 27 in its opening game of the International Ice Hockey Federation (IIHF) World Junior Championship in Ufa, Russia. The United States will play Russia again Dec. 28, Canada (Dec. 30) and Slovakia (Dec. 31). The tournament quarterfinals will be held Jan. 2, leading up to the medal round Jan. 5.
Team USA defeated Sweden, 3-2, Thursday in an exhibition game played in Finland and will face Finland in an exhibition game Saturday. Shayne Gostisbehere of Union College scored the game-winning goal in overtime. The final U.S. roster will be announced Saturday. The team is coached by Phil Housley, a 2002 Olympic silver medalist and a U.S. Hockey Hall of Famer.
"The guys played hard, were competitive and played with tempo," Housley said after the win against Sweden. "Also, we wanted to see the guys we have to make decisions on and I believe we were able to do that."
TV: Live broadcasts and replays, nights of U.S. games, NHL Network
World Under-17 Hockey Challenge, Dec. 28-Jan. 4, Quebec, Canada
Eighteen of the 22 players selected for the U.S. team that will play in the World Under-17 Hockey Challenge are from USA Hockey's National Training Development Program in Ann Arbor, Mich. The squad begins play in the tournament Dec. 29 against Canada's Team Ontario. The tournament will be played in Drummondville and Victoriaville, Quebec.
Among those on the team are Sonny Milano, who has scored a team-high nine goals this season with the NTDP Under-17 squad, and Jack Eichel, who has eight goals and 11 assists.
Also in hockey:
IIHF Under-18 Women's World Championship, Dec. 29-Jan. 5, Heinola and Vierumaki, Finland: The United States begins play Dec. 29 against Russia in Vierumaki.
UCI World Cup, cyclo-cross, Dec. 23, Namur, Belgium
Ahead in the World Cup standings by 50 points after just four races, Katie Compton will chase after her fourth UCI World Cup Cyclo-cross win of the season Sunday in Namur, Belgium. There will be two Cyclo-cross World Cup races in the next week.
Compton defeated Sanne Van Paassen of Netherlands by eight seconds in the most recent World Cup race held Dec. 2 in Roubaix, France. Amy Dombroski finished 11th in that race. Among the elite U.S. men are Jeremy Powers and Jonathan Page.
Also in cycling:
UCI World Cup, cyclo-cross, Dec. 26, Heusden-Zolder, Belgium
US National Table Tennis Championships, Dec. 18-22, Las Vegas
London 2012 Olympians Ariel Hsing, Erica Wu and Lily Zhang each will play in the round of 16 Friday at the US National Table Tennis Championships in Las Vegas. Victories would send them on to the quarterfinals in women's singles. The semifinals and finals are scheduled for Saturday at the Las Vegas Convention Center.
The tournament drew nearly 800 entrants in all age groups for play in singles and doubles. Jun Gao, a four-time Olympian, will play in the semifinals of the women's doubles Friday alongside playing partner Wu. Timothy Wang, also a 2012 Olympian, will play in the round of 32 in men's singles Friday. He is seeded No. 2 in the tournament; Mark Hazinski is the top men's seed.
WJCH Trials, Dec. 28-30, Mt. Itasca, Minn.
Trials for the U.S. Biathlon junior/youth world teams will be held in Mt. Itasca, Minn., beginning Dec. 28. Competition will be held in sprint (10 kilometers) and pursuit (10 kilometers).
Story courtesy Red Line Editorial, Inc. Paul D. Bowker is a freelance contributor for TeamUSA.org. Material from various news services and press releases from National Governing Bodies was used to compile this report. This story was not subject to the approval of any National Governing Bodies.