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Cramer: Why Some Unloved Stocks Are Rising
To me, though, that's not the right observation. I think what's really going on is that they went down way too low in 2012, and all they are doing is recovering from some pretty hideous losses. In fact, I could argue that they never should have fallen to where they got to.
Let's start with Nokia. Here's a company that has a gigantic share of the cellphone market and even the smartphone market, with a terrific entry into China with its partner China Mobile. The stock fell to about $2 and stayed there, even as the company won the Chinese business, sold its headquarters to fix its balance sheet and laid off a huge number of employees to stem the losses.
These were all the actions taken by a company that was recognizing its problems and taking action, but the market didn't want to hear anything about it, and the stock was endlessly downgraded. It has since almost doubled.
Hewlett-Packard isn't my cup of tea. It stumbled badly in the acquisition of Autonomy, and it seems to have no clear path to deal with the commoditization of its hardware or the market-share loss of its consulting business.
I don't know how Meg Whitman will turn this ship around on an earnings-per-share basis, but I monitor the bonds of the company, and they were trading up at year-end while the stock was trading lower. That's a tell, a tell that the stock is wrong, and we found out not that long ago that Hewlett has suitors for what it might want to sell and that it doesn't need to sell anything. No wonder the stock has been rallying and has moved up 20% this year.
Best Buy is a situation where it's pretty much the only game in town these days. That doesn't mean that perhaps there shouldn't be a game at all, but I think that Best Buy's problems are execution oriented. Best Buy, like so many other chains, has too many stores and too many unprofitable ones. It is closing the unprofitable ones, and the result is better-than-expected numbers that I think can be trusted, even as Amazon (AMZN) has taken a lot of share.
There used to be a ton of choices out there, of which Best Buy was only one. Now Best Buy is the only one, and there are times, believe it or not, when you actually need to buy something from the store. Not everything is Amazon-able.
There was vast confusion involving this stock, because it became binary: It was either going to get a bid to go private or it was going to go to zero. This last set of numbers, however, has shown that there's a third path: a muddle-through strategy of a smaller, more lean and less profligate company that isn't all things to all people all over the country but just a solid operator that can make money. Maybe not a lot of money. But it can be profitable, and if it can be profitable, it isn't done going up.


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Taylor, C(ecil) P(hillip)
C(ecil) P(hillip) Taylor 1929–1981
Scottish dramatist and scriptwriter.
Taylor, a prolific author, for many years worked with and contributed plays to several theater groups in Scotland, helping to strengthen the Scottish theater while developing his style and craft. His use of local color, Scottish-Jewish socialist protagonists, and loose structure made his early plays seem exotic when staged outside Scotland. But by isolating and examining particulars of an individual or small group of people, Taylor hoped to reveal universal traits in humankind, a philosophy of drama that won modest success.
Taylor's early plays typically featured characters who thought of themselves as liberal, enlightened, and good. Taylor drew humor and drama from them as they tried to adjust to events in their lives that conflicted with their liberal ideals. For these realistic social dramas Taylor created a character type that recurs in his plays, one who displays self-deception, often comic, while trapped in a conflict between ideals and the limitations of life.
With his two recently produced plays, Good (1982) and Bring Me Sunshine, Bring Me Smiles (1982), Taylor won wider recognition. Good, which is viewed as his triumph, examines how a good, intelligent, young German named Halder, could gradually succumb and find rationale for the evils of Nazism. Good has drawn both sharp praise and disapproval from critics, who have debated the merit of Taylor's presentation of Halder's subtle, unprovoked descent.
(See also Contemporary Authors, Vols. 25-28, rev. ed., Vol. 105 [obituary].)
THE TIMES, london
[Happy Days Are Here Again] asks to be taken on two levels: as an exciting exploration of guilt and as a piece of Marxist allegory. On neither does it succeed. If the suspense of the former had been more conscientiously maintained, the allegorical interpretation might have emerged more convincingly.
In form, the play strongly resembles Hugh Leonard's The Poker Session. A young prostitute, accidentally pregnant, having been despatched for an abortion, her Jewish uncle holds a party for the men responsible for her downfall. Himself apart, a lecherous cleric, a glib biology student, a wealthy capitalist, and a balding poet are all guilty parties. But the begetter of the child and the convenient scapegoat is a bovine electrical engineer. Accepting his major share of the guilt without question, he allows himself to be hanged by the remaining quintet. Their sense of release following the deed turns sour when they realise the moral consequence of their action.On the realistic plane, the play is manifestly implausible. No man readily accepts execution as a means of expiating his sins. Unacceptable realistically, the same character cannot then be seriously regarded as the proletarian victim of a ruthless cap-italist society. Mr. Taylor has made the mistake of building his allegory on an unsure foundation.
"Marxist Allegory Built on Unsure Foundation," in The Times, London (© Times Newspapers Limited 1965), September 22, 1965, p. 14.
THE TIMES, london
[Fable] is a Marxist object lesson on a Christian theme. A newly converted lion and a polemical jackal discuss the pros and cons of slaying an antelope. Since the Bible teaches that the sins of the fathers are visited upon the third and fourth generations, the hungry lion feels free to stalk his prey. He promptly gets a spear in the chest and learns that while his grandchildren may pay for his sins he is squaring accounts run up by his forefathers. The play takes the form of a twee demonstration, and the moral is too over-simplified for its intellectual content to be taken seriously. It is fiendishly over-played and over-pointed, which only accentuates its slimness.
"Three Novelties in New Studio Theatre," in The Times, London (© Times Newspapers Limited 1965), October 1, 1965, p. 15 A.∗
THE TIMES, london
Cecil P. Taylor, who ranks almost as the house dramatist of the Traverse Theatre Company, has won admiration as the comic laureate of Glasgow-Jewish Marxism; a limited field, but his own. [With Who's Pinkus, Where's Chelm? he] has now deserted it in favour of straight Jewish folklore with a resultant loss of wit, technique, and sense.
Chelm, in Jewish legend, is the town which God accidentally peopled entirely with fools—a smug community with no idea of how they compare with the world outside. Mr. Taylor's hero is one of its lowest citizens; an unemployed salesman who goes off to seek his fortune in the next town, but loses his way and finds himself back in Chelm. However, he has had a change of heart on the road and is, moreover, wearing a new suit; so the town that spurned him now puts all its business into his hands and makes him president of the synagogue.
The possibilities of this fable are ruined in the telling. Mr. Taylor gives it neither a fairy tale nor a socially realistic setting; all he provides is a standard stage Jewish framework (crafty Rabbi, garrulously possessive wife, &c.), which omits the allimportant element of general idiocy: without this preparation, the turning point of the tale—where Pinkus and his home-town confront one another as if they had never met before—is impossible to swallow. And all that emerges from it is a restatement of Willie Loman's simple faith in Death of a Salesman that self-confidence and a good shoe-shine guarantee success.
Lacking wit, character, or invention, the writing does little more than register basic events….
"Musical Hewn from Folk Tale," in The Times, London (© Times Newspapers Limited 1967), January 4, 1967, p. 6.
John Russell Taylor
[Though Cecil P. Taylor] has reversed the pattern of [John] Hopkins's and [Alan] Plater's careers by starting on the stage and taking up television, extensively though not exclusively, afterwards, in other respects he seems to belong very much in a group with them. Partly it is his journalistic background …, partly the genres in which he has worked—realistic social drama, musical documentary à la Plater. His most immediately distinctive contribution is his personal background, which is Glasgow-Jewish. But there is also his talent, which is variable, but at its best can produce drama which, in its own quiet way, stands comparison with the best the decade has had to offer.
He is at his best, I think, in Bread and Butter (1966), a slow-burning but finally very gripping piece. 'Gripping' sounds a curiously old-fashioned term of praise, but it is apt, for Bread and Butter gets full value from an element in general rather misprized by the newer dramatists (dedicated comedians apart): plot. There is, after all, something very comforting about a plot. However uninteresting we may find the characters and situations of a play initially, if we have perforce to spend a whole evening with them, it is practically inevitable that sooner or later we shall begin to feel at least a faint stirring of interest in how things will turn out, what will become of character A or B.
This is very much what happens in the course of Bread and Butter. Initially, the four characters who make up the cast seem uninteresting. The two men, Morris and Alec, are too broadly, simply what they are: Morris the perennial political enthusiast, haring off now after one political panacea, now after another, and Alec, the soft, silly listener to what other people say. Their women, Sharon and Miriam, are even more colourless and the background of working-class Jewish life in Glasgow between the wars, unfamiliar in the theatre, sounds much more attractively exotic than it is. Big events in the outside world come and go, but to Morris and Alec they impinge only as subjects for conversation, the groundwork on which Morris can embroider dizzying patterns of Marxist theory. The development is deceptively slow, the play almost static up to the half-way mark, which brings us to the end of the war, with Morris's fortunes on the down-grade and Alec's slightly on the up. The author's technique may seem limited and repetitive: in virtually every scene he uses to excess the old 'new drama' ploy of conversations continued at odds, with neither participant listening to the other—signifying, of course, failure to communicate or, as Pinter has it, fear of communication. Which is all very well in small doses, but continued obsessively in scene after scene can become extremely tiresome. However, by this time the plot has established its insidious hold: it has become quite interesting, in the most naïve, old-fashioned way, to know how things will all turn out for the two households.
And the second half not only answers this query, but does so far more tellingly than the question was posed in the first half. For by the end of the war, it transpires, Miriam, Alec's wife, who always did have her calculating side, has become warped about money to an extent which makes the mild, amiable Alec begin to question seriously whether, after twenty-odd years of married life, he really likes his wife at all—and decide that, all things considered, he doesn't. Not only do these two characters grow in stature and complexity,...
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Steve Grant
Like Terence Rattigan's Cause Célèbre, C P Taylor's Bandits is based on a real murder case and attempts to reveal the moral background to the crime in a way which explains its cause and its effect. Taylor's chosen crime filled the front pages of the northern editions in the mid-60's and inspired the Michael Caine movie, Get Carter. A petty but pushy crook is found dead on the beach outside Newcastle, one of 26 witnesses and participants in a case presided over by a super-cynical detective who cares more about the man cutting down trees outside his weekend caravan than the fate of just another 'bandit'.
Taylor's point of view is crystal clear: in the never-had-it-so-good era of...
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Gordon Gow
The best thing about [the] sentimental comedy [And a Nightingale Sang …] by C P Taylor is the love affair it delineates between Helen, a lame girl who has been almost reconciled to the idea that love must pass her by, and Norman, a rather simple but quietly emotional bloke who is sensitive to the fact that Helen's nature has more beauty to it than one might glean from the outward show. This somewhat fraught relationship is sentimental, as I say, but it isn't sloppy…. [Even] when the agony is piled on with the revelation that Norman has a wife and child, the plucking of heartstrings is still carried out with the most delicate finesse….
Higher, however, than the eye of Hammerstein's...
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John Russell Taylor
[In And a Nightingale Sang …] at least C. P. Taylor is seraphically free from any kind of message. Up to now he has frequently seemed to be a talent in search of just the right register: there has always been something likeable and warm and ideosyncratically human about his plays, but also something a bit muddly and lacking in focus. And a Nightingale Sang … has dispensed with the tentativeness: it strikes straight into its central matter and scarcely puts a foot wrong after. Mind you, it is not immediately apparent that it does so: at the outset it seems to be just a loosely connected series of sketches of life in Newcastle during the early days of the war and the Blitz. It has a narrator, a plain,...
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Allen Saddler
It is a long time, probably not within living memory, since the farming community has had a reasonable representation in dramatic form. Dung slinging straw-in-the-hair folk groups have become representative of country culture. In Taylor's play [To Be a Farmer's Boy] the poetry of everyday speech comes to life with vitality and force; dispelling forever (I hope) the taciturn, crude and graceless yokel of popular legend. The main character, a farmer eager for land, is cantankerous, crafty and ruthless, even within his own family; but displays a love of wild life, relishes the passing of the seasons, plays Bach on the violin and reads avidly. These people are not saints or sinners; not particularly bright or...
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Benedict Nightingale
What did the British theatre prematurely lose in Cecil Taylor last December?
Well, it may not be relevant to say so in a critical column; but it lost a very nice, very good man….
He began his career in 1962 with Aa Went te Blaydon Races, a play he later admitted ingenuously expecting to provoke revolutionary incidents in the centre of Newcastle-on-Tyne. He was always a committed socialist, but one who increasingly came to annoy the ideologically straight and narrow, because he couldn't help seeing the flaws in the human material from which socialism would have to be built. His characters like to think of themselves as enlightened, progressive, or simply good. The drama, and...
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Benedict Nightingale
Not long before his death last December, C. P. Taylor told the director of Bring Me Sunshine that he wanted to 'show working people exploring their own feelings, philosophies and relationships with the same concern and sensitivity that had usually been the province of plays of middle-class origin'. Insecurity and anxiety, marital ennui, parental unease, sexual envy, menopausal angst and other such commodities could afflict the families of unemployed Newcastle shipwrights as well as bank-managers from Eastbourne, Sittingbourne, or that well-known centre of genteel despair, Ayckbourn. That is what Sunshine points out, and points out with all Taylor's much-missed generosity of spirit and wry, forgiving...
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Anthony Masters
Uneasy on occasion about C P Taylor's work, I can happily commend Bring Me Sunshine as a summing-up of his special perceptiveness and pity. Teddy, on whose cuddly middle-aged shoulders a whole Newcastle community sobs out its problems, is an inspired device for showing us the sorrows and misunderstandings of ordinary people's relationships—and Taylor's own affectionate frustration as he watches human folly and finds he must forgive it. Not many playwrights can send you out of the theatre a better person, but he was one of them.
Into Teddy's kitchen come the seekers for cocoa and sympathy, moaning that Teddy never understands but telling him just the same. His son Peter … gets his punk...
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Peter Mortimer
[Mortimer had been acquainted with Taylor as a publisher, theater critic, and friend. He saw nearly all of Taylor's seventy-odd plays performed in Scotland.]
The British prefer their literary heroes to be dead, so it's not surprising that Taylor's true talents are only now being appreciated….
One of the greatest tragedies about Taylor is that his death came at the moment of a major development in his work…. Good, with its subject matter of the well-intentioned young German slowly seduced by the Nazi machine …, marks a radical departure, a deadly serious play spiced throughout with an impish, almost daredevil humour.
Watching it, I remember...
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Frank Rich
When we first meet Halder …, the protagonist of C. P. Taylor's "Good," he is a model of the urbane university professor. A novelist and literary critic, Halder is devoted to his wife and children, as well as to his one close friend, a Jewish psychiatrist named Maurice. But the place is Frankfurt, the year is 1933, and men can change without warning. It isn't too long before Halder has not only become a member of the Nazi party but has also played a direct role in SS book burnings and euthanasia "experiments" in the Jew-bashing Night of the Long Knives, and, finally, in Eichmann's genocide at Auschwitz.
Mr. Taylor's "play with music" … is an attempt to understand how all this could happen. The...
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John Simon
Concerning what may have been the late Cecil P. Taylor's best effort, Bread and Butter, the English critic Harold Hobson wrote that "if the play is about the sadness of time's destruction of our ideals," it is a very grave point that the two principal characters "never really had any ideals at all." In [Good] … the same problem obtains; this tale of how John Halder, a "good" German, gets sucked and suckered into the Nazi party fails right off the bat by not persuading us that we are dealing with a man of parts and ideals….
Good makes no literal sense. No novelist-professors of literature became S.S. officers—the last thing the S.S. wanted or needed; indeed, writers of the...
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Brendan Gill
["Good"] is superb theatre—a classic mingling of strong subject matter, entertaining presentation, and flawless acting…. [One] isn't likely to encounter a more satisfying experience on Broadway throughout the rest of the season….
"Good" describes the rise of Hitlerism in the thirties as it affects the lives of two characteristic Germans, Halder and Maurice—the former a Christian, the latter a Jew. They are cultivated members of the upper middle class and are intimate friends. As the play begins, they agree that Hitler's attacks upon the Jews—still largely verbal in nature—are a temporary political aberration; once he has achieved sufficient power, he will abandon the attacks, for how is...
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T. E. Kalem
History is a nightmare into which the antihero of Good sleepwalks. John Halder … is a decent enough human being. He is kind to his wife Helen …, though she is an execrably sloppy homemaker. Even if he has to cook the meal, he sees to it that his three children are properly fed. With his mother …, who is blind, senile and bitter. Halder is agonizingly solicitous….
By vocation, Halder is a professor of German classics who also writes novels. He is the sort of man who is appalled by the fact that Goethe refused to send Beethoven money when the composer was in desperate need…. At Good's end, this decent, liberal-minded scholar has become Eichmann's right-hand man at Auschwitz....
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Robert Brustein
The difficulty with [Good] … is that it poses an all-too-familiar question and then completely fails to grapple with it.
The question is how generally ordinary and relatively decent people could have participated in or even tolerated Nazism, and I wonder if it needs to be asked again. Hannah Arendt first brought it up in her book on Eichmann; that perfectly normal family man, Rudolph Hess, who was also commandant of Auschwitz, provided some answers in his memoirs; Hochuth's The Deputy carried the question to the stage and Styron's Sophie's Choice to the novel; it was even mentioned in Bent, Martin Sherman's play about homosexual prisoners in the concentration camp. Mr....
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On April 7-9, 2013, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry traveled to Jerusalem and Ramallah. During his visit, he met with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Salam Fayyad, Israeli President Shimon Peres, and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. These meetings were to follow up on last month's discussions, as we continue to assess how best we can support the parties in getting back to the table and in having dialogue leading to peace. We remain committed to working with the parties to achieve a lasting peace through direct negotiations.
On April 8, Secretary Kerry participated in the Holocaust Remembrance Day wreath-laying ceremony at Yad Vashem in Jerusalem. Afterwards, he spoke with the staff and families of the U.S. Consulate General in Jerusalem, where he said, "I have traveled throughout this region for a long time. I think I first came to Israel in 1986 and...I think I've had some exposure to life here. And what I've learned is that Palestinian, Israeli, visitors alike, all believe in the possibility of peace."
Secretary Kerry concluded his day at President Peres's residence, where he said, "...It's a great privilege for me to be able to be here now representing President Obama and the American people in this effort to try to get us across the line. We all know it's not easy. But as you said yourself, it can be done. And it has been expressed by your leaders and others through years that people believe in the possibility of a two-state solution. I am convinced there is a road forward, and I look forward to the discussions with your leaders and yourself regarding how that road could be sort of reignited, if you will, once again setting out on that path."
On April 9, before his departure from Tel Aviv, Secretary Kerry held a press availability. The Secretary described his visit as, "...a very good series of discussions with Prime Minister Netanyahu, with President Abbas, as well as with Prime Minister Fayyad and President Peres. Each of them made very serious and well-considered, constructive suggestions with respect to what the road forward might look like. And they all embraced the goal that we all share here. So this effort is not just about getting the parties back into direct negotiations, it's about getting everybody in the best position to succeed."
The Secretary continued, "...We also spoke about other steps that could be taken in order to facilitate this process and to make it more conducive to success. Specifically, we agreed among us -- President Abbas, Prime Minister Netanyahu, and ourselves -- that we are going to engage in new efforts, very specific efforts, to promote economic development and to remove some of the bottlenecks and barriers that exist with respect to commerce in the West Bank, to move very rapidly towards increased business expansion and private sector investment in the West Bank, all of which, we are convinced, will help improve the economic security of the people living there as well as improve the security of the people of Israel. Economic growth will help us be able to provide a climate, if you will, an atmosphere, within which people have greater confidence about moving forward. But I want to emphasize -- I emphasize this very strongly: This is not in lieu of, or an alternative to, the political track. It is not a substitute. The political track remains the primary focus. But this is in addition to, in a way that could help to facilitate that track, and I believe will begin to take hold immediately."
Secretary Kerry departed Tel Aviv for London, where he will participate in the G-8 Foreign Ministers Meeting April 10-11. You can follow the Secretary's trip on www.state.gov and on Twitter via @StateDept.
John C. in the United Kingdom writes:
Well, all of us do need to work out a common agenda on this one – and be prepared to stick with it through thick and thin.
I personally would suggest putting forward the following to everyone involved. And, these days, they must amount to a goodly number.
It solves the immediate problem confronting peace negotiations insofar as it stops all violent Arab-Israeli interaction once it's up and running,. This would then leave the field clear for a long-term settlement to be hammered out in the certain knowledge that very little could stop the fulfillment of such proceedings.
It can thus be seen as something of a positive outcome after more than 65 years of deadlock, death and seemingly unending conflict.
It might also find application in any number of other disputes which still trouble nations and communities throughout the world.
E pluribus unam.


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By Freya Bellin
Boiled Brussels sprouts have a reputation for being mushy, but this recipe succeeds in saving them from that fate. Shocking the sprouts before they have a chance to soften completely helps preserve both the crunch and color of the vegetable. They retain a nice green freshness, and I chose to use red onions in the marinade for the bright color contrast. The dressing is very versatile, and that basic combination could be used on a variety of vegetables or salads. The recipe would also work just as well with roasted Brussels sprouts if you prefer those, although it would be a hot dish rather than this cold one. I didn't end up using the full amount of dressing that was called for, so you may want to mix it in a few tablespoons at a time to be safe.
When buying Brussels sprouts, keep in mind that you'll lose the outer layer of leaves of each one, so you may want to get a bit more than what the recipe calls for. Recipe from The Food Matters Cookbook.


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Topic: How to test deletion of a file?
Hello all, this is really two questions in one. I have been looking around for quite some time to work this out... but am stumped. I am sure I need to use mocks(stubs) but just can't work out how.
I have three models that are all has_many / belongs_to in a chain down from Book -> Sections -> Documents. The documennts model allows the upload of files. I have the upload working fine. On destroy of any of the models they delete the "children" through "dependent => :destroy" calls on the has_many relationship.
This then calls a series of call backs that delete the files and directory structure as appropriate from all three models.
Also on the creation of the document model, it checks the file size of the uploaded file, verses the copy that it has inside the database and writes uver the size and confirms a correct upload.
This all works perfectly.
My problem comes into trying to work out how to test it all.
First problem: How to have a fixture with an entire 40k text file in it. Do i just put it in the YAML as the last entry? Will I run into problems here?
Second problem: When I test the delete, I have a file called "test.html" in the fixtures directory, and I reference this through the fixture.filename, and sure enough, the test runs and the file gets deleted "yay", but now it is gone.... and all the remaining unit and functional tests fail....
The only thing I can think of is copying the file over in EVERY test I do that relates to the file... but this doesn't sound very Railish or DRY to me.
What is a better idea?
Happy to post code if appropriate, but not sure how to make it look like the nice blue and white background coding everyone else can do


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A collection of stories from individuals with disabilities, families, friends, and disability service providers in Tennessee
Showing stories 1 - 3 of 3
Results related to: Other / Parent / Education
"With him [Danny] being 55-years-old, it's not like it was when he was born. Now, there's help. There are programs and suggestions, but when he was born there was nothing."
"Thomas does not fit into any of the IDEA categories, so he receives insufficient school services."
""The public school system is preoccupied with passing the problem down…when it comes to dealing with the educational system, parents must be courageous and willing to battle.""


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Achtung: I sieze the Irish gauntlet on behalf of Germans everywhere
To the editor:
You Irish have thrown down the gauntlet to the Germans of New Ulm.
On behalf of Germania I fearlessly pick it up and accept…with Vergngen (translation: pleasure)! I shall appear at the Leprechaun Look-Alike Contest at the Chamber of Commerce at the stroke of noon on St. Patrick's Day, March 17. There I will challenge the gaggle of Irish who have infiltrated New Ulm (the most German city in Amerika) under cover of darkness over the past 49 years. I will demonstrate for the whole world to see, that clothes DO NOT make the man. He who would stand against me, beware. Though I may appear as a Leprechaun, my 100 percent pure Germanic blood will show through in exultation to win the day.
Further, I will march in the parade at 5 p.m., and though I may appear as Irish, no Irish will outshine me. My true inner Germanic spirit will triumph uber alles. And gemuetlichkeit will once again reign over New Ulm forevermore.
Blarney will be replaced by Baloney,
O'George the Great (Glotzbach)
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Looking at the boxscore for today's Tribe vs. KC game and I was astonished by how many guys they have that are absolutely raking. I know it's ST, but this team is poised to make some serious noise in the near future.
And yeah, small sample size yada yada yada....but look at those numbers? Some are insane!


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Next Meeting for Buffalo and Erie County Greenway Standing Committee on February 23
Rob Daly
February 17, 2010
LEWISTON—The Buffalo and Erie County Greenway Fund Standing Committee will host a meeting on Tuesday, Feb. 23, at 4 p.m. at the Marcy Casino, Hoyt Lake at Delaware Park. The meeting is open to the public.
The meeting agenda includes the committee's consideration of funding of proposed projects by various local entities:
- Buffalo Urban Development Corporation: Union Ship Canal
- City of Buffalo: LaSalle Park Master Plan Phase II
- Buffalo Olmsted Parks Conservancy: Riverside Concourse
- Riverkeeper: Buffalo Waterfront Access Acquisition Feasibility Study
- Valley Community Association: Buffalo River Fest Park
- Buffalo Museum of Science: Tifft Nature Preserve Sustainability Center Upgrade and Expansion.
The committee is composed of one representative from Erie County, City of Buffalo, Buffalo Olmsted Parks Conservancy and the New York Power Authority (NYPA).
The Buffalo and Erie County Standing Committee receives funds from NYPA, as part of a settlement agreement related to the 50-year license received by NYPA for the Niagara Power Project in 2007. During the term of the license, the Buffalo and Erie County Standing Committee will receive $2 million a year.
About NYPA:
■ The New York Power Authority uses no tax money or state credit. It finances its operations through the sale of bonds and revenues earned in large part through sales of electricity. ■ NYPA is a leader in promoting energy efficiency, new energy technologies and electric transportation initiatives. ■ It is the nation's largest state public power organization, with 17 generating facilities in various parts of New York State and more than 1,400 circuit-miles of transmission lines. ■ More than 80 percent of the electricity it produces is clean renewable hydropower. Its lower-cost power production and electricity purchases support hundreds of thousands of jobs throughout the state. ■For more information, www.nypa.gov.


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Another Great Albin Yacht
- Year:
- 2015
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This was the first new model introduced by Albin in almost five years and it is destined to be a winner. Albin, now back on the move, is producing incredible custom large to midsized yachts along with their very popular domestic small downeasters. These are the first pictures of this yacht seen anywhere. If you are an Albin fan or Albin owner you are going to want to see this newest yacht to the Albin family. She continues to deliver that unique blend that Albin creates of outstanding seakeeping, exceptional fuel economy and overall value, A contemporary yacht with a downeast heritage. A truly World Class Yacht!
The owner of this first 46 Albin TE understands quality and value and he is one of the most discriminating of Yachtsmen. He should be, as the former publisher of Barron's, he demanded every detail of his new yacht reflect his long time yachting experience. So Albin turned to our old friends at the legendary firm of Sparkman and Stephens to design a vessel that would meet the blue water demands of Albin owners. S&S is famous for "advanced designs and contemporary techniques such as 3-D modeling, velocity prediction programs and finite-element analysis in conjunction with time-honored methods like model tank testing and real world on board operations." This Albin/Sparkman Stephens combination produced an outstanding vessel that compares and surpasses vessels made anywhere around the world.
She is a production/custom yacht, and you can design into her all the amenities you would want. A choice of hull colors and your selection of fabrics, patterns, lighting etc. is guaranteed to create a vessel perfect for you. She is a two stateroom, two head and shower, galley down layout. And at first glance your question is how did Albin and S&S design so much into this yacht? A hundred years of experience is the answer.
She is powered by your choice of engine options, and the first was built with twin Volvo IPS 600 and can be ordered with the optional Joystick controls. Albin will install any sufficient engine option you would like. Standard Genset is the Northern Lights 9 KW, "Lugger" Generator, (which is located in the engine room). Twin transom doors in a large and roomy cockpit for your convenience and a wonderful circular staircase to the bridge make for comfortable ease of use. Any combination of electronic packages can be supplied with the Albin 46 and your choice of optional hardtop, or soft top canvas enclosure. All other yacht options available including Yacht Controller, Hydraulic Swim Platform, Desalinator, Invertor, Boarding Passarell Ladder, etc.
If you are in the market for a World Class Yacht in either a sportfish or convertible in this size range, the Albin 46 TE is a must see. This vessel is impressive. Please call or email to begin the journey to your next great Albin. We look forward to seeing you at the helm under blue skies and bright sunshine.
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Additional Specs, Equipment and Information:
Builder: Albin
Designer: Sparkman and Stephens
LOA: 48 ft 6 in
Beam: 14 ft 5 in
LWL: 39 ft 3 in
Length on Deck: 46 ft 6 in
Maximum Draft: 3 ft 6 in
Bridge Clearance: 14 ft 1 in
Deadrise: 15 ° at Transom
Engine 1:
Engine Brand: Volvo
Engine Type: Inboard
Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
Location: Port
Drive Type: Pod Drive
Engine 2:
Engine Brand: Volvo
Engine Type: Inboard
Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
Location: Starboard
Drive Type: Pod Drive
Fresh Water Tanks: (250 Gallons)
Fuel Tanks: (600 Gallons)
Holding Tanks: (40 Gallons)
Navigation center
CD player
Cockpit speakers
TV set
DVD player
Inside Equipment
Electric bilge pump
Air conditioning
Battery charger
Hot water
Microwave oven
Manual bilge pump
Electric head
Electrical Equipment
Shore power inlet
Electrical Circuit: 110V
Outside Equipment/Extras
Teak cockpit
Cockpit shower
Swimming ladder
Electric windlass
Bimini Top
Displacement: 35000
Total Power: 600
Cruising Speed: 20-24
Max Speed: 28-35
Fuel: 600
Fresh Water: 250
Holding: 42
Hull and Deck
- Laminated Tinted Safety Glass
- Molded Non-skid deck service
- Courtesy lights cockpit and bridge
- Fresh water washdown in AnchorLocker
- Large hatches in roof of master
- stateroom and 2 heads.
- Transom handle above platform
- Ladder
- Windlass with 300' of anchor chain
- Sliding Aluminum companionway door.
- 2 large bins in transom for storage
- Drainage
- Handrails in cockpit
- Color gelcoat (Optional)
- Color Deckhouse (Optional)
- Fishing rod holders (4) on gunnel
- Wetbar unit in cockpit
- Flagpole holder in cockpit
- Bronze Sea Cocks
- Large 12" Stainless Steel cleats
- Anchor locker with large self bailing hatch for storage.
- Satinless Steel Seaports with screens
- Swim Platform
- Bow anchor roller
- Stainless Steel anchor
- Sliding Windows in Salon
- 2 Transom Swim Platform doors
- Bow rails 1 1/4" Stainless Steel Fresh and salt water washdown
- Hand shower in transom
- Pumpout on Starboard deck
- Water intake port deck
- Fresh water washdown on transom
- Saltwater washdown
- Elecrical connection 50 amp.
- Handrails
- Sportfishing setup
- Seating for six
- Benches and locker for storage with watertight drawers
- Radar tower optional
- Marlin or tuna tower optional
- Searchlight with controls
- Hardtop or Bimini top with enclosures optional
- Electronics at the buyers option to be installed on delivery. All electonics are optional and by buyers selection.
- Grab Rails
- Captain and mate chairs
- Refrigerator and icemaker
- Wetbar
- Controls, console and gauges
- Windlass controls
- Stidd helm and mate seating optional
- Full engine instrumentation.
Interior and Cabin
The main salon on the 46 Albin TE is large, open and airy and well lit. She flows down into her galley down layout with two stool seats at a counter that allow for meals in a less formal pace. For more formal dining, the coffee table converts to a table for four to six guests. The woodwork is impressive and is everywhere. This is a truly warm interior influenced by the more upscale traditional yachts found in the Northeast.
- Teak and Holly sole throughout
- Arched Doors
- Entertainment Center
- Surround Sound Stereo in Salon
- Flat screen TV/DVD in Salon:Optional
- Flat screen TV/DVD in Master Optional
- AM/FM Radio with CD
- Cherry interior with fine varnish Satin finish
- Convertible L Shaped
- Complete Lower Station
- Cushion choice of colors
- Coffee table easily converts to dinette w flaps or leaf for dining.
- Indirect accent lighting
- Etched door from cockpit to salon
Master Cabin
The Master stateroom is large, open and airy. It is a comfortable centerline layout with enough room for changing. Lockers, drawers and storage are sufficient for most cruising needs. A seperate shower and head offer the Master stateroom occupants privacy. This is a well thought out design for the comfort of her owner and guests.
- Queen sized centerlined berth
- Mattress, bed spreads and bedding
- Storage under berth
- Climate control air conditioning and heat
- 2 Hanging lockers cedar lined with lighting
- Blinds on ports
This is a Galley Down layout and is adequate for it's intended purpose. Being galley down it is located out of view of salon entertainment and keeps kitchen prep out of site, always desirable. Ample storage and all appliances you would expect on a 46.
- Peninsula counter *Sahara Corian
- Countertops *Sahara Corian
- Drawer type refrigerators Optional
- Drawers for silverware and plates
- Freezer w storage above Optional
- 2 Burner Stove w Ceramic tops
- Microwave convection 110v
- Deluxe Galley sink
- Lighting
- AC GFI outlets
This vessel is a two head layout, one for each cabin to insure privacy for owners and guests. Both are comfortable and function with stall showers and vacuflush heads. Certainly more than adequate for cruising or sportfishing.
- Marine toilets with vacuflsh 4800 series
- Seperate showers in each with dedicated sump pumps
- Non slip surfaces in heads and showers
- Both black water and grey water holding tanks.
- Mirrors in both heads
- AC GFI outlets
- Lights
- Hot and cold pressure water.
- AC three zone climate controled heat and air conditioning reverse cycle
- Fresh water, fuel and holding tank gauges.
- 9 KW Northern Lights Lugger Generator
- Batteries: 1 each engine, 1 for house and 1 for the genset.
- Teak Cockpit decking
- Exterior speakers
- Cockpit lights
- Rod racks *optional
- Rocket launchers *optional
- Exterior AC GFI outlets
- Racor fuel filters
- Two 300 gallon fuel tanks
- Receptacles throughout including under the storage in salon
- Joystick: optional
- All electronics are optional
- All canvas are optional.
- ***All Pricing is plus shipping and makeready depending on final destination, delivery and optional equipment.
The Company offers the details of this vessel in good faith but cannot guarantee or warrant the accuracy of this information nor warrant the condition of the vessel. A buyer should instruct his agents, or his surveyors, to investigate such details as the buyer desires validated. This vessel is offered subject to prior sale, price change, or withdrawal without notice.
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So, which comes first—the bad theology or the greed? Use Scripture to support your position.
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As to which came first, is like the chicken and egg question.
In II Tim 3:7, we read, "Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." And, in II Tim 4:3-4, the Apostle Paul warned that these days and type of teachers would come. For he stated: "For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. Bad thinking produces bad theology.
And, it stands to reason that those individuals whose minds have been corrupted and blinded through darkness, unbelief and sin (II Cor 4:1-4) will gravate toward teachings that give them the very thing they are searching for in this world (in this life). But, we as believers are warned, "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the father is not in him" (I John 2:15). In closing therefore, "Be not deceived, evil companions companions corrupt good manners." (I Cor 15:23)
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In II Tim 3:7, we read, "Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." And, in II Tim 4:3-4, the Apostle Paul warned that these days and type of teachers would come. For he stated: "For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. Bad thinking produces bad theology.
And, it stands to reason that those individuals whose minds have been corrupted and blinded through darkness, unbelief and sin (II Cor 4:1-4) will gravate toward teachings that give them the very thing they are searching for in this world (in this life). But, we as believers are warned, "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the father is not in him" (I John 2:15). In closing therefore, "Be not deceived, evil companions companions corrupt good manners." (I Cor 15:33)
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Well it would be logical that if a believer started interpretting things the way the Word Faith guys do, he would begin to see that it does not line up with the rest of Scripture. As I have personally experienced, things start to jar with you: Jesus actually has crucified the flesh in me (Gal 5:24) and I found as these things were being talked about in my church that I just don't give a stuff about money or fame or reputation.
It might be then greed that starts it, because I cannot see a believer going so horribly wrong, considering the work that God does in us. Certainly the lust for money and authority is great in a carnal person, and as a person gains influence, it would just be so easy to push people into giving money through a few twistings here and there.
this seems the next logical step to the last 20 years,or so, of self-esteem teaching strait from the pit. when in fact, we are intructed to " not think more highly of ourselves than we should". From a baseball players perspective, a first basemen will get mighty tired trying to run back and forth trying to catch every pitch. We need to understand our position and stay in it. I consider it a great honor to sevre the King of Kings. I understand my position. I thank God he called me up to play on the team.
WOW and Amen! Wow, as in unbelieveable that people think like that, but it is understandable since they DO NOT have the spirit of God; therefore, they are unable to understand the Word of God.
Amen, in that Pastor MacArthur keeps it real--all the way back to Genesis!
1 Tim 6:3-5 If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.
Greed comes before bad theology. "If anyone teaches false doctrine...they think(already) that godliness is a means of financial gain" so they create the theology that supports it. Besides, Jesus teaches us that from within is where bad theology and anything else comes from. Greed is the inner motivation for the outward manifestation of false doctrine. Luke 6:45.
I pray that Jesus would drive out the money changers through John Macarthurs truth platform dear lord Jesus i pray that leaders in christian tv would get bombarded with this truth HEY BROTHERS IN CHRIST we can start going to the websites of these health and wealth teachers with our protesting message of distaste of there damnable theology if they wont come to this website lets go to theres you can do this right there from your chair you have a platfrom to. its your internet access lets bombard there websites go to where they let you put in your pray request or praise report go to every so-called teacher you can think of be nice but be firm for the truth lets let them know where taking a stand for truth and rightousness and if they are Gods chosen elect they will repent if not lets buy the truth of his word drive out the money changers in JESUS NAME. I LOVE ALL YALL AT GTY i live in texas so i cant come to your church thanks for being on the internet............
These comments by Copeland are absolute heresy! Please God enlighten him to the truth and save his soul
This applies not only to today's church but also today's Government. We have preachers and politicians telling people what they want to here and not what needs to be heard. We need to come against this spirit in prayer and pray the Lord waken this generation.
Greed comes first, stemming from the depraved human condition. Without a redemptive revleation, man will say and do whatever he is big and bad enough to do.
Matthew 15: 11Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man. 18But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. 19For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies...
Out of the heart flow the issues of life.
Luke 6: 45"The good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth what is good; and the evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth what is evil; for his mouth speaks from that which fills his heart.
It's always a heart thing.
Oh what damage has already been done to the untrained ear!! I'm so thankful that John MacArthur has become a major part of teaching in this loosed world. Before I was ever saved I heard this "greed-teaching" and knew that it was a lie from the pit of hell. Now that I have Christ as my mentor and love of my life, I wonder why so many still can't see the truth of salvation but instead the jingle of coin and the shinny off the new. We are not stupid!! If a unsaved person can see Truth, why then can't a person that claims salvation see it too...let us not be lead by self or selfish men/women of the world hiding behind their wants and desires for more. Let us not be lead by the one hiding behind The Word of God!! Blasphomey!!
Unregenerate man is incapable of controlling his greed, pride, selfishness and all the rest of his depravity. But for regenerate man, he has the spirit to help him in his daily Spiritual Warfare.
Luke 12:15-21 (Phi) ..."Be on your guard against covetousness in any shape or form. For a man's real life in no way depends upon the number of his possessions... A rich man's farmland produced heavy crops. So he said to himself, 'What shall I do, for I have no room to store this harvest of mine?' Then he said, 'I know what I'll do. I'll pull down my barns and build bigger ones where I can store all my grain and my goods and I can say to my soul, Soul, you have plenty of good things stored up there for years to come. Relax! Eat, drink, and have a good time!' But God said to him, 'You fool, this very night you will be asked for YOUR SOUL!...' That is what happens to the man who hoards things for himself and is not rich in the eyes of God."
Man will twist his theology because of greed. All you have to do is look at the selfishness and greed shown in the actions of babies and young children. Also many adults. King of Greed Bernard Madoff
Ps 49:16-19 (NIV) Do not be overawed when a man grows rich, when the splendor of his house increases; for he will take nothing with him when he dies, his splendor will not descend with him. Though while he lived he counted himself blessed--and men praise you when you prosper--he will join the generation of his fathers, who will never see the light of life.
Ecc 5:10-15 (NIV) Whoever loves money never has enough; whoever loves wealth is never satisfied with his income. This too is meaningless. As goods increase, so do those who consume them. And what benefit are they to the owner except to feast his eyes on them? The sleep of a laborer is sweet, whether he eats little or much, but the abundance of a rich man permits him no sleep. I have seen a grievous evil under the sun: wealth hoarded to the harm of its owner, or wealth lost through some misfortune... Naked a man comes from his mothers womb, and as he comes, so he departs...
Prov 11:4,28 (NIV) Wealth is worthless in the day of wrath, but righteousness delivers from death... Whoever trusts in his riches will fall...
1 Thes 2:5 (Jer) ...Never at any time have our speeches been simply flattery or a cover for trying to get money.
2 Cor 2:17 (NEB) At least we do not go hawking the word of God about, as so many do...
2 Cor 2:17 (NIV) Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit.
2 Cor 2:17 (LB) We are not like those hucksters--and there are many of them--whose idea in getting out the Gospel is to make a good living out of it.
1 Tim 6:5 (Phi) ...among men of warped minds who have lost their real hold on the truth but hope to make some profit out of the Christian religion.
1 Tim 6:5 (TEB) ...They think religion is a way to become rich.
1 Tim 6:5-9 (NIV) ...men, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain. But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction.
1 Tim 6:10-12 (NIV) For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves through with many griefs. But you, man of God, flee from all this, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, endurance and gentleness.
Many of us have been fervently praying that God would turn the church upside down and vigorously shake it (Heb 12:25-29). When this happens, those who love money and have lost their grip on the truth will be the first to fall.
1 Cor 4:8-21 (NIV) Already you have all you want! Already you have become rich! You have become kings--and that without us! How I wish you really had become kings so that we might be kings with you!.. We are fools for Christ, but you are so wise in Christ! We are weak, but you are strong! You are honored, we are dishonored! To this very hour we go hungry and thirsty, we are in rags, we are brutally treated, we are homeless... Up to this moment we have become the scum of the earth, the refuse of the world. I am not writing this to shame you, but to warn you, as my dear children... I will come to you very soon, if the Lord is willing, and then I will find out not only how these arrogant people are talking, but what power they have. For the kingdom of God is not a matter of talk but of power. What do you prefer? Shall I come to you with punishment, or in love and with a gentle spirit?
James 5:1-3,5 (TEB) And now, you rich people [see James 2:2-7], listen to me! Weep and wail over the miseries that are coming upon you! Your riches have rotted away, and your clothes have been eaten by moths. Your gold and silver are covered with rust, and this rust will be a witness against you, and eat up your flesh like fire. You have piled up riches in these last days... Your life here on earth has been full of luxury and pleasure. You have made yourselves fat for the day of slaughter.
Jer 5:27-29 (NIV) ..."They have become rich and powerful and have grown fat and sleek... they do not plead the case of the fatherless to win it, they do not defend the rights of the poor. Should I not punish them for this?" declares the Lord.
One final word for the greedy
Rev 3:17-19 (Phi) [Jesus] "While you say, 'I am rich, I have prospered, and there is nothing that I need,' you have no eyes to see that you are wretched, pitiable, poverty-stricken, blind and naked. My advice to you is to buy from me that gold which is refined in the furnace so that you may be rich, and white garments to wear so that you may hide the shame of your nakedness, and salve to put on your eyes to make you see. All those whom I love I correct and discipline. Therefore, shake off your complacency and repent."
When these men talk like this I really wonder whether they are saved. I think this is an occupation for them and they are in it for greed, not because they are called by God.
The Christian community today is not unlike the religious system and the secular system during the time the apostles walked the earth. So many people divided over so many issues. It seems nobody wants to hear anything that is controversial to their own personal belief system. So, people set in their own silos and listen only to those whom they agree. Many people I have found over the years, base their beliefs on some kind of truth. However, whatever truth they posses seems to be the focus of their entire belief system. And if somebody comes along and is able to get through to them, showing them some new truth, they dump the old guys and go to the new guys. We certainly see this in the mainline churches today. We see their membership declines to the maga movements and signs and wonders guys.
Jesus says do not grumble among yourselves. No one came come to Me unless the Father draws Him. (John 6:43-44) This signs and wonders movement seems to ignore this fact, as well as do so many others. So, it seems to me that people should be praying that the Father would call them to Jesus to hear the words that will give them eternal life. Not some kind of religious movement following the charisma of human endeveavers which can start out with good intentions, but usually end in common human greed.
The word needs to be implanted in our hearts to be received not unlike the why we need to breath. Then we can be doers and not merely hearers who delude themselves. This whole issue calls me back to Siman who was practicing magic in the city of Samaria Acts chapter 8. Also, Jesus was not impressed by many who believed in His name observing the the signs He was doing. (John 2:23-25; John 5:39-44; John 7:3-5)
I think Romans 1:18-32 shows us clearly that people reject the true God first,then "God turns them over to the lusts of their heart."One of the lusts listed is greed.I think this scripture is telling us that all false beliefs and teachings come from a rejection of the true God of scripture.So,bad theology comes first.
I think that the greed comes first. However, my first church was affiliated with Kenneth Copeland. But I had gone to church when I was young and knew some things. As I started searching for God, Really searching, I knew something wasn't right with the doctrine. I thank God for my curiosity and questing spirit, because that false doctrine was leading me into depression. I felt I wasn't a true believer becuase I was not naming a claiming things. I felt like a failure. But my dad (who doesn't even believe yet but knows a lot about the bible) told me that the teachings in my church were not according to the Word. So, I started searching for the truth and eventually a new church.
I think that greed started it, but some get trapped into this false teaching unknowingly. However, I think when your truly seeking the Spirit does make you feel uneasy when something is not right and that is why it is so important to read the Word for yourself and to be sensitive to the Spirit.
Thank God for deliverance.
I am reminded of Jesus' condemnation of the Pharisees. Jesus said, "Every plant which my heavenly Father did not plant shall be uprooted. Let them alone; they are blind guides of the blind. And if a blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a pit (Matt 15:14)." As John MacArthur has pointed out, that is the wrath of abandonment.
Paul reminds us in his second letter to Timothy; "But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come. For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers...treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God; holding a form of godliness, although they have denied its power. Avoid such men as these (2 Tim. 3:1-5). We must warn our brothers and sisters in Christ to stay away from such men. That is what Pastor MacArthur does so well. He addresses issues like this and gives clear biblical counsel. That is what I appreciate so much. That is what a good leader of God's people should do. Point them to the word of God.
I am also reminded that this is the same group who espouse more the sovereignty of Satan rather than the sovereignty of our Lord over Satan. Consequently Romans 8:28 takes a back seat to their intense spiritual warfare against Satan. They have developed all kinds of unscriptural practices for dealing with our arch enemy. Jude had much to say about imposters of the true faith. "Yet in the same way these men, also by dreaming, defile the flesh and reject authority and revile angelic majesties. But Michael the archangel, when he disputed with the devil and argued about the body of Moses, did not dare pronounce against him a railing judgment, but said, 'The Lord rebuke you!' But these men revile the things they do not understand.... (Jude 8-10)." And then in verses 19-21 Jude says about these men, "These are the ones who cause divisions, worldly minded, devoid of the Spirit. But you beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit, keep yourselves in the love of God, waiting anxiously for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to eternal life."
These false teachers have been espousing their false doctrines for many years now. But their judgment is coming.
One last thought I am reminded of is that this same group appeals for financial support from those least able to do so. While they live luxuriously, many who are older and on a fixed incomes send in their money. Mark 12:41-44 is a story of a poor widow putting all her wealth into the treasury because the religious rulers were devouring widows' houses (v. 40). A husbands death became a source of revenue for the scribes who could influence a widow to contribute to God's work (MacArthur Study Bible notes for Mark 12:40). Needless to say, Jesus' comment about the widows' offering was not in admiration, but in anger at what the leaders had done, bringing her to total poverty.
2nd Peter 2 says it all much better than I can. Sin always leads to hearsay and blasphemy because the blasphemer needs to find some way to justify his sin. As water flows down hill, one sin leads to another until they are committing the worse possible sins, denying God and putting themselves in the place of God. The first commandment warns that God is a jealous God and will not tolerate the worship of another. When man worships man he is not only breaking the commandment, he is placing an abomination, Satan, in God's place. Woe, woe woe and triple woe to him. He will, as the Mafia says, sleep with the fishes. (Matthew 18:6)
Thank you very much for your concern Dr. McArthur about the doctrine of greed. First of all there is hardly no one in the body of christ that looks like the church of acts, point blank. 90% of the churches look like fortune 500 companies with Pastors living like Ceo's instead of Acts 4:32 (When they had all things in common)
My question is to you Grace Community Body do the secretary and staff live like the Pastor with all of there needs met. Do they get to partake of the good of the land and be in covenant with the man of God or do everyone look like a company, serving the big boss and families around the leader barely make it. Anytime there is a problem with the greed doctrine and people begin using names, MAKE sure that you are looking just like the book of ACTS by distributing to the needs of your own body with same intensity that we have time to spend trying to be so doctrinely right.
I speak from experience being a minister and serving my local church with all sincerity and watching people needs go unmeet and the Pastors just preaching and teaching not being concerned about the body of christ being one financially. If your church doesn't look like the book of ACTS, please don't comment.
Let's go again. When you as a leader get tired of people being broke, sick, and beat up by life you turn to the only remedy you know and it's God's word. If believers go and get their education they wouldn't have to wait on the prosperity preachers to come and give them a word of hope. That's why they are so Popular, really in the black community, because black people love glamour and nice things a whole lot. Again don't hate on prosperity preachers if you are not out making a difference yourself in your local church and neightborhood giving all you can.
Hey Cary, the direction of people that are broke, sick, and beat up by life, that direction towards God is ok. But, if your message' direction is geared only towards those people as a reason of "self help" and "motivation" then your message is misdirected, not the people. Your message should have legs, can your message travel. Ted Turner thinks Christians are wimps, let's see somebody win him to Christ with a proseperity message. The health and wealth message has many problems, one of them is its very obvious limitations. It can't travel.
Additionally, the forerunner, John the Baptist, told folks when the came to him form their various walks of life to go back into their lives and just be Holy. It didn't tell them "Go live your best life now", he told them to stop cheating, and lying and stealing. That's it. We have been called to be Holy no matter what your worldly condition or position.
Sounds like the rich man and Lazarus. At least lazarus had a name. I believe we hate the sin not the sinner.
19"There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21and longing to eat what fell from the rich man's table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.
22"The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23In hell,[a] where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.'
25"But Abraham replied, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.'
27"He answered, 'Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father's house, 28for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.'
29"Abraham replied, 'They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.'
30" 'No, father Abraham,' he said, 'but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.'
31"He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.' "
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Sin always comes first. Bad theology comes from many ideological directions. From prosperity preachers and political and socialist preachers. It's all from the same man-centered perspective. That is the key. It is man-centered.
While it is true, that we were designed for eternal life, and created in God's own likeness, it cannot be refuted that we are the created and not ever the creator.(Only God makes something from nothing) If it were not so utterly tragic , so eternally soul damning with all of the horrific consequence of unending suffering that such a twisted belief, such an ugly perversion of truth brings, it might almost be comical. The claims these decievers propose to a desperatly needy world, that humans can, in and of themselves, are sufficient and powerful enough to create anything at all! is utterly laughable. (Acts 4:12) While these "Evangelical" apostates are certainly deserving of being exposed for the lies and heresy they perpetuate, we want to be diligent,thourough, and fair. From the "church" of the false godess "Oprah Winfrey" to the pagan practices of roman catholicism and worship of the pope, to the multiplicity of Hindu, Buddism, Bahia, to the blasphemy and perversion of Gods nature and character as found in the teachings of Muhammed, John Smith, and others I can't think of right now. History is replete with false prophets, and anti-christs. I'm sure I speak for most of us us when I thank God for His work through Pastor John. Still, let's not set him on a pedistal and leave him there though. It doesn't matter to me how these people arrived on the road to eternal damnation, by a wrong belief about God, or by a wrong belief about self. The reality is these people are in serious soul damning trouble. As His children, his "vice-regents" we know the end of the story (Rev.12:l0). We have a duty to help Pastor John, to work together. "But, dear friends, remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ foretold. They said to you, "In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow mere natural insticncts and do not have the Spirit. But you, dear friends, build yourselves up in your most holy faith and pray in the Holy Spirit. Keep yourselves in God's love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life. Be merciful to those who doubt;others snatch from the fire and save them; to others show mercy, mixed with fear-hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh. To him who is able to Keep you from falling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy-to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore!Amen Jude l7-25
Galations 5:19 " Now the works of the spirit are evident sorcery,enmity,fits of anger,jealousy ......and things like these. Greed is a type of "fruit" of the flesh . So without meditating on this longer than my lunch break ,I think bad theology comes first...
I posted earlier that I think greed comes first. While it is true that in Romans 1 that a wrong conclusion about God leads to impurity, degrading passions and a depraved mind, it is important to point out that it is not just the wrong conclusion about God that results in these things, it is the failing to give God the praise and glory for the good things that he gives us. We receive good things from God and use them selfishly. We don't give to others and share keeping in mind that everything we have is a gift from him. Then we start to put more importance on the created things than we do our creator. God and others take a back seat to our lusts. This lust continues to gain more and more ground in our hearts and we become harder and harder.
We know that God's word tells us to, "love your neighbor as yourself" and "if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need and closes his heart against him, 'How does the love of God abide in him'? But instead, because of our deceitful and deluded heart (way of thinking), we distort God's word and emphasize the parts in scripture that we want to use to support our lifestyle so that we can still call ourselves Christians and practice greed. 1 Timothy 6:3-5 I believe says that bad theology comes from the way we think(our heart) and Jesus says that bad theology comes from within us in Luke 6:45.
I think that we all think "bad theology" means different things. If bad theology means, "what I think about God", I can see why some say that bad theology comes first. Theology is the study of God. So in our study of God, his invisible attributes in the creation we can come to a bad conclusion. I disagree that this could be considered as "theology" simply because these things about God mentioned in Romans 1 are "clearly seen". This just says that anyone, whether they are trying to understand God or not can see that the world had a creator. The problem is that according to Jeremiah 17:9, what we see in the world about God is automatically doomed to be interpreted wrongly. We don't even have a chance at getting God right unless, something had already happened since the foundation of the world...hmm. I wonder what that could be?
Romans 1:20-24 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Professing to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures. Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them.
God said, " Besides Me, there is no God", ....."None before Me or after" to believe anything else comes from a depraved nature. Jesus said, "What comes out of people makes them 'unclean.' 21 Evil thoughts come from the inside, from people's hearts. So do sexual sins, stealing and murder. Adultery, 22 greed, hate and cheating come from people's hearts too. So do desires that are not pure, and wanting what belongs to others. And so do telling lies about others and being proud and being foolish. 23 All those evil things come from inside a person. They make him 'unclean.' " Greed is what comes first, which comes from within. I believe no one who is Spirit filled, transformed by the Spirit can agree with such erroneous teaching or theology as the wealth and prosperity gospel. The Spirit will only speak to what is true from the Father and Christ and for those of us who have the true indwelling of the Spirit, must use Him (Spirit) for correct interpretation that our application maybe relevant. Woe to those who intentionally misuse the word of God for selfish gain.
@ Carey Brown, 1st. As one who professes to be a believer, " Don't grow weary in doing what is good"(Galatians 6:9). 2nd. Education or lack there of is not the cause of misplaced hope rooted in erroneous teaching. The disciples of Christ were mostly poor and uneducated, yet there hope was in Christ and the truth he spoke.( Acts 4:13)Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were uneducated, common men, they were astonished. And they recognized that they had been with Jesus.
You don't become bolder or happier, content in life because of education or even having plenty, but because you are ANCHORED in Christ Jesus. 3rd. Glamour, glizt and the love of money is not racial, it's human ( depraved, human nature) whether you are black, white , yellow , etc. The human nature is corrupt and in need of the Great Physician-Jesus Christ. The love of money by those who were poor, didn't start with black people. Greed knows no color, which sin. If you turn on international news, you can clearly see it.
4th and lastly, As a professed believer and leader, it's your responsiblity to preach the truth in the face of what is clearly false doctrine. The poor and rich are both from God, so to grasp onto false teaching to give false hope to people who are having hard times is not the answer. We should neither teach these things nor give credence to those who do. Carey, you sound fustrated and tired at doing the good you ought to, Satan will attack us, especially when we are weak,as scripture says,"2 Corinthians 11:3But I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your thoughts will be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ
Carey, get refreshed by God if it's what you need and preach the truth, but don't go down this slippery slope and fall off the edge.
That false teching makes me mad and sad at the same time. People souls are hanging in the balance. As Christians we need need to be confronting false teaching and pulling folks out of the fire. Lets get busy!!!
The way to confront such error is to be a devoted student of the Word. Thank you, GTY, for being there as a resource and for teaching God's Word one verse at a time!
Praise God for John Macarthur & GTY. Finally someone is calling out the "Charlatans" & clearing up the deception...
ignorance of the bible plays a big part in getting sucked into the greed mentality. Was never part of a true authentic church. This plays a small part I believe in holding a person accountable to the true doctrines of the church. Your church must be authentic on all bible doctrine or you will fall into error. Prosperity comes in all forms even from so called real christian ministries. Ministries I have trusted for years will come crawling to you door, they do not even teach prosperity or word faith out right, but I believe there a tares among the wheat for why would I be receiveing mail not just asking for money, but a note in personal hand writting along with the letter, as if to say you cannot make your own decision based on our year end, we need to urge you to give by making you feel guilty by personally writting you a message. I'm sorry but I give to my church as I have what God has given me to give. To assume that writting me a message in your own hand writting is going to spur me to give a gift is not only offensive but dosen't take into account that the person you are writting to may be poor and to assume that all christians who listen to your ministry must give to you because you have personally written to me, I say how many times will you do this, will you send me a note each month, make it so personal that I feel obliged to give to you untill I am homless and on the street because you are telling me that as a christian I am indebted to give to every letter you send to me?
HI MR. MACARTHUR, fOR THE INFORMATION you provide we apreciate it, I like all your teachings on the radio I haven't been able to find u in the tv station I live in ventura county if you are on tv on the weekends I could see you on tv, The messege you gave sounds like the preacher crafty dollar, and Joel steem , they are so twisted in their doctrines that whomever is hungry for the word of god they belive everethig they say, I came out of the 7day adventist sect they like to brain wash you if they can but Jesus said you shold know the truth and the truth should send you free, Can you make some coments about those poeple sda,? Here is the problem in my opinion,We as cristians are super lasy we don't want study the bible the way we should thats why we are easy targets of all kinds of charlatans I don't watch keneth copeland because he looks like he has a satanic face he is to scary for my to watch,again thank Mr, Macarthur keep up the good work.
I absolutely concur with Dr. MacArthur's assessment. What a shame that the gospel is being obscured by these people who preach such a twisted and perverted doctrine. It is also so very sad to see people so close yet so blind to the truth of Scripture.
Im sad and i weep that thease false teachers are leading people astay pray that God will open there eyes and make them a hearer and doer of the truth. Thanks Pastor John
Hmmmmm......lets see. If all the faith teachers never die.......then by George they are gods. I made a "funny" but we need to take this more serious and dialogue about it. Faith does cause things to happen in the Kingdom of God and yes we are "joint heirs".......but we are not gods. Nothing irritates me more than someone who believes we can get all we want.......Jesus said if we do that, then in the end "we will lose our very souls". The gospel is about giving up all that we have (own), all that we are, and all that we hope to be.....and then give them to Him for his purposes in the Kingdom of God
This teaching is absolute blasphemous! I am grateful to God that this demonic teaching is being exposed!
Great subject! I believe that the direction of Christian Theology today is moving in that direction. What many of us are not looking at is how far most Theology has dramatically changed since the early 1800's. A great book that will open you eyes to the change is CHARISMATIC CHAOS by John McArthur and THE NEW COVENANT MINISTRY OF THE HOLY SPIRIT BY Larry Pettigrew. But I would attribute the beginning to sin instead of Greed or Bad Theology.
For several years now it has been my prayer that the Lord would expose these hucksters and raise up one who loves the Lord and teaches truth according to the Holy Scriptures, such as Dr. MacArthur and other faithful shepherds. Dr. MacArthur, this expose that the Lord has laid upon your heart is a wonderful answer to those prayers--now I know what it means to "wait upon the Lord..." as in Psalm 27. There are many others who are interceding with this very prayer and we are grateful to Yahweh for this His blessing. I also pray that any one of these heretics would realize what they are espousing and repent of this fraudulent use of the Lord's precious Word, or that they would simply leave their so called "ministry". Glory be to the Lord for what He is doing through John and the GTY ministry! We are thirsting for the tools to accurately identify the charlatans so that our apologetics will wax strong against the blasphemy. Indeed it is sin at the root of these diabolic practices and the fruit of that sin appears as greed, false teaching, and perversions of many kinds. I also pray that the Lord would stir true believers hearts to vigorously share the gospel and shed His great truth in opposition to this travesty of heretics as they offend the Almighty, the Most High, our beloved Adonai.
God's Word is His revelation of Himself to us. We are given such revelation that we might know God, not be God. Anyone who has even begun to know God knows enough to understand our inability to be God. Scripture plainly teaches us that we now see through a glass darkly, but then face to face we shall see Him as He is. Until we stand in His presence we just don't fully comprehend His greatness. Thank God for Grace. I am amazed at what people will say to gain viewers and followers. Sad to see how many people are falling into the trap Satan uses through false teachers. True prosperity is knowing God by faith in Christ. His presence is enough. That will hold us in health, sickness, wealth and poverty.
It's so sad to see that the world judges Christianity by what they see on TBN. The false teacher's consciences are seared. Money has become their God. We know which master they serve. God does propser people, but what is more important is our spiritual prosperity.
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I haven't listened to the sermon (yet - I'll be listening later today).
2 Peter 2:2 & 3 - (NASB) "Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned; and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep."
I think that if we read from left to right, we may find our answer (I don't claim to have the correct answer, I don't have a PHD or anything like that, but in my studying, I believe this could be an option for an answer to the question).
"Many will follow their sensuality (KJV - pernicious ways) and because of them (the 'many that follow'), the way of Truth will be maligned..." I think that this is one of those "because / then" situations. BECAUSE of their sensuality (perniciousness, covetousness, selfishness, greed), they THEN pervert the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and twist, mangle, distort the God of the Bible. A condition of an un-regenerated heart - desiring and ultimately creating a God that is more appealing (Idolitry). I also believe this is how un-regenerated, false-teachers connect and lure (un-regenerated) people in. Through the lusts of the flesh - whether it's immorality or 'self-help / prosperity'... or whatever god they can create to meet the selfish needs and desires of the human flesh.
Reading on: "and in their greed they will exploit you with false words..." - Pretty self-explanitory. Greed, THEN false words (yes??). Also - Luke 6:45 "The good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth what is good; and the evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth what is evil; for his mouth speaks from that which fills his heart." (emphasis added) - reading left to right.
Hello Jehovah God, Father God I am so sorry that you have Streets of Gold, Mansions, Angles flying around the throne and broke children down here on the earth.
This BROKE DOCTRINE that Pastor John McArthur has introduced to the body of Christ is so powerful. So God's orginal intent in the Garden was for ADAM and EVE just to barely have enough for them and their little kids. WOW he gave him dominion over the earth, you broke minded people. So if their are any doctors, atheletes, and professors in your church tell them to sell all they have and give it to the poor.
Jesus was talking to sinners, not believers. Once a man is born again he will be a blessing to the poor, he will readily give of us finances. Like the so called prosperity preacher that gives away a Million dollars a year in his giving to churches around the globe via Dr. IV Hilliard from New Light Christian Center in Houston, TX. Lets see John give away a million a year, oh I forgot he don't want a million dollars because GOD the Father is broke and want us to barely have enough.
PLEASE read GENSIS and tell me why was ABRAHAM very rich, Solomon, & David. Oh I forgot Jesus said it's better to be poor. No my ignorant brothers and sisters. Oops I mean my step brothers and sisters who don't know who their father is and by the way, do you have children and think. You guys are going to barely make it. No you put money in savings, mutual funds and insurance policies for your children. Do away with this pious mentality and look at God's original intent for man. It never mentions being poor, except for when Adam disobeyed. Jesus purpose wasn't to open a bank, he came to save the souls of man kind. But that wasn't again God's original intent. He gave Adam the earth. THINK BLINDED CHILDREN. Your Father wants to give you all. Love you and read Gensis please, and don't let the blind lead you in a ditch of brokeness.
Hey Cary,
While I am formulating a response to your last post I feel compelled to ask if you have read any of the responses to you up to this point?
Additionally, here is something for you to think about. What is the only thing that man cannot "accomplish / achieve" within his own control and / or power? There is one thing only. Every and anything else he can. He can get money, he can lose money, he can buy planes, he can build cities, he can get married, he can get promotions, the list goes on... But what can he not do?
Man cannot bridge the gap between himself and God. That's why Jesus HAD to come! Not because folks are rich or because folks are poor. You want more money, go get, just be holy in your acquisition of it. You want to live moderate, then live moderate, just be holy. You want to live meagerly, live meagerly, just be holy.
Word of Faith teaching skims the very surface of the Word of God, at best. As someone here has said already, Grow Up! There is liberty in christianity, read your bible, it's in there. So glorify God, think more highly of someone else other than yourself and live your life in the liberties that you have. Grow up, again I say! There are riches in the Word that God is really revealing to His people. Stop surfing the top of the Word and get a pick and a shovel and do some digging!
Man I can't let this go.
Cary, do you really think that Jesus came here to compete with Tony Robbins and Les Brown?
Cary, JM isn't condemning wealth. The issue is that the driving factor behind the prosperity gospel is that the preachers want to become rich. So they tell people that God will bless them materially according to the size of their donations. This is deceptive manipulation at its worst. The sole beneficiaries of this corrupt system are the preachers. The theology is driven by their greed, and nothing else. And I can't think of anything more evil than twisting God's word to take money from the vulnerable by making false promises.
Look at it this way - if the prosperity gospel was true, then its devotees would all be rich. They're not, and in fact many end up in poverty because they give more than they can afford.
Those who preach and taech this bad theology, are they sincere but wrong in thoelogy or intertionally misleading the congregation ? what are the faith of the followers ?
I have challenge any of the prosperity teachers how many of their congregants live the prosperity they preach. i know from being there very few. So either their doctrine is a lie or they are bad teacher (not anointed) and in both cases they should not be their.
I fear that in this case it is their doctrine that is in error
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