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Peer leaders and adolescents participating in a multicomponent school based nutrition intervention had dietary improvements
QUESTION: In adolescents, are varying levels of exposure to a multicomponent, school based nutrition intervention associated with varying dietary outcomes?
Randomised {allocation concealed}*, unblinded, controlled trial with follow up of 1 school year.
16 schools in the metropolitan area of Minneapolis and St Paul, Minnesota, USA.
Students {mean age 12.8 y}* in middle or junior high school. Schools were eligible if they had ≥20% of students approved for the free and reduced price lunch programme and ≥30 students in each of the seventh and eighth grades. 3878 students completed the baseline survey in fall 1998, and 3503 (90%) completed the year end survey in spring 1999 (51% boys, 69% white).
The 16 schools were pair matched; 8 schools (1748 students) were allocated to the intervention, and 8 schools (1755 students) were allocated to a control condition. Students in intervention schools were exposed for 1 school year to varying levels of a multicomponent nutrition programme called Teens Eating for Energy and Nutrition at …


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This week's Sunday Night Music Club brings you a song from the 2011 album, Yours Truly, by Sublime With Rome. It's called 'Can You Feel It' and it features a verse from Wiz Khalifa.
I'm rolling up good you rolling up trash
I'm burning them slow you burning them fast
You smoking on this I'm smoking on that
Ain't counting them grams just go in the bag
You rolling a blunt I'm rolling a zag
We grinding it up and mixing with hash and that's...
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We know you love getting medals - now it's your chance to show your bling off!
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- Cristiano Ronaldo is willing to take a pay cut to rejoin Manchester United.
- A sensational £1.5billion bid for Arsenal is being lined up by a powerful Middle Eastern investment group.
- Swansea City are already preparing for life after in-demand boss Michael Laudrup.
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- Tottenham's Hugo Lloris is the latest Premier League goalkeeper to be linked with Barcelona.
- Carlos Vela could return to Arsenal after revealing they have a buy-back clause in his contract with Real Sociedad.
- Roberto Mancini will use the remaining games of the season to draw up his chopping list for a summer clear out.
- Arsene Wenger insists he would rather have Jack Wilshere in his side than Spurs flyer Gareth Bale - who he has dismissed as 'flavour of the month'.
- Real Madrid striker Gonzalo Higuain claims anyone who thinks Gareth Bale is in Cristiano Ronaldo's class should get real.
- Sir Alex Ferguson has serious doubts whether his pal Jose Mourinho will quit as Real Madrid boss and head back to the Premier League.
Sunday Mirror
- Fabio Capello is the shock candidate to save Chelsea's season.
- Chelsea intend to groom captain John Terry as a future manager instead of showing him the door when his contract expires in the summer of 2014.
- Manchester City have targeted Real Madrid's Gonzalo Higuain to solve their goal-scoring problems.
- Arsenal are drawing up a transfer B-list - in case Tottenham finish above them.
- Gedo wants to turn his temporary switch to Hull into a permanent deal.
- Paris Saint-Germain want the dream team of Jose Mourinho and Cristiano Ronaldo to propel them into the football elite.
- Jose Mourinho looks certain to leave Real Madrid at the end of the season.
- Sir Alex Ferguson insists that Manchester United have been given "no encouragement" to launch a bid to bring Cristiano Ronaldo back to Old Trafford.
- Christian Benteke will be offered a bumper pay rise to stay at Aston Villa if they avoid relegation.
- Chelsea will send an SOS call to Fabio Capello after Rafa Benitez's midweek rant.
- Gareth Bale is prepared to delay his dream move to Real Madrid for one more year - for the sake of his family.
- Real Madrid are ready to make a summer raid on Tottenham - for Kyle Walker rather than Gareth Bale.
- Tottenham's Hugo Lloris has emerged as a candidate to replace departing Barcelona keeper Victor Valdes.
- Manchester United are tracking teenage Brazilian defender Antonio Carlos.
- Swansea City's Capital One Cup final hero Nathan Dyer is set for contract talks as fears grow he could leave on the cheap in the summer.
- Everton are keen to send Luke Garbutt to the Championship.
- Fulham's Urby Emanuelson will have decisive talks over his future with AC Milan this summer.
- Southampton boss Mauricio Pochettino is chasing Espanyol left-back Victor Alvarez.
- Norwich City are ready to make a new move for Celtic striker Gary Hooper.
- Manchester City's forgotten man Scott Sinclair is wanted on loan by Dougie Freedman's promotion hopefuls Bolton.
- Charlton face a fight to hang on to striker Danny Haynes, with Championship rivals Brighton and Huddersfield keen to take him in the summer.
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- Guus Hiddink could return to Chelsea at the end of the season.
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- A Middle East consortium is poised to make a £1.5billion takeover bid for Arsenal within the next few weeks.
- Chelsea intend to allow Rafael Benitez to stay on as the club's interim manager until the end of the season.


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The Center for Student-Athlete Enhancement Staff members work closely with student-athletes as well as faculty advisors on academic planning, study skills, goal-setting, majors, minors, etc. The Athletics-Academic Advisement program has two main focuses: The first is to be a valuable resource to the student-athlete for all types of collegiate information. Director of Student-Athlete Enhancement Alyssa Gates and her staff help student-athletes create a class schedule that allows each individual to maximize class participation without compromising their athletic commitments.
The office also assists student-athletes to identify major and pre-professional programs that will prepare them for life in the professional world. Additionally, the Center for Student-Athlete Enhancement serves as a safety net. In this capacity, the office staff monitors student-athletes progress through the course of the semester. Should a student-athlete begin to struggle in a class, the professional staff intervenes and helps the individual through the learning process by identifying the problem and assisting in organizing tutorials and study hall sessions to help the student better understand class material and improve their study skills.
Staff of the Center for Student-Athlete Enhancement as well as Marist's National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) Faculty Representative Dr. John Ritschdorff, help the student-athletes to prioritize their time so as not to be overwhelmed by the adjustment to college life. They provide assistance in helping the student-athlete to balance the rigors of academic and athletic demands. "Marist wants its student-athletes to have as complete a collegiate experience as possible," said Ritschdorff. "We want each student-athlete to walk away from Marist having not just taken classes and competed but having experienced campus life as a whole."
Marist Vice President of Student Affairs, Deb DiCaprio, is an avid supporter of the Athletics-Academic Advisement Program. DiCaprio sees each participant, at whatever level of competition, as a student-athlete, a person who is first and foremost a student, but who also extends and heightens his or her undergraduate experience through personal fitness and team dedication.


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31 Days of Running Inspiration, Day 2
Visit trailrunnermag.com throughout January 2014 for a daily dose of running inspiration, and keep us posted on your daily progress for a chance to win a free book!
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Is there anything quite like a new year to get you in the goal-making mindset? For many of us, January offers a metaphorical chance to start afresh. It grants us permission to dream big and often gives us the little push we need to start tackling our goals.
To help keep your motivation high in the coming weeks, we're partnering with Sputnik of The Swashbucklers Club to deliver a small dose of running inspiration to you every single day from now until January 31. Each day on trailrunnermag.com, we'll post one page (like the one above) from his new book, The Swashbuckler's Guide to Running Away from Dinosaurs.
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Starbucks has officially launched its long-awaited Starbucks for Life promo that will give 14 winners around the world a free pass to their stores for the next 30 years.
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Your interview with Wiman was somewhat interesting. I don
Your interview with Wiman was somewhat interesting. I don't mean that in a bad way. It's just that I am not very interested in poetry. I heard a woman once call the Talmud mental masterbation. That's what I think of 95% of poetry I read. Or perhaps emotional masterbation, anyway.
But the talk of death I found interesting, and how we can't really imagine our own death. A couple of weeks ago I was landscaping a relatives front yard up north. That morning a older woman passed by on her walk and we said hello. Later that evening she passed again, and commented on my work. Then she said something that would probably shock most people. She said that she wanted to die. I admit I was alittle taken aback, but quickly thought to myself that I've got this covered. You see, I've been saying that probably since I have been able to speak, well...
Anyway we had a talk and I found out that her son had died almost a year ago, of cancer. She said that she also had a daughter but did not care so much for her. She had a husband and he was back home doing yard work also. She spoke four languages, was from Poland, and also was considering going back. We spoke for awhile. I told her some of my life experience. I told her I would pray for her, and she seemed okay with that. But what brought a big smile to her face was when I said goodbye in Italian. She said something back with a joyful laugh, I could only say thank you. (in english)
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2013: Tool first three time Headliner.
It's like this thread blew its load a little too early
Edit: Much like Kayne's set
Let's bring this shit back up. All those masks being worn as these hit the stage, GOD, PLEASE LET THE KNIFE BE ON THE LINEUP!
With no release date or update on the new album, I'm losing hope!
2012 Coachella & TBA
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Lykke Li (who'm I believe is unofficially confirmed to be on the Coachella roster this year) performed a thoroughly surprising and enjoyable cover of The Knife at her recent SF show. Just saying, in case the real deal don't make it this year, and although I am well aware there is no substitute, whatever stage or tent she is playing will go off when she performs this with her band!
the knife for any year of coachella IMO, even passed years, in order to play them they would time travel, and it would be added to our collective memories.
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yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes!!!
1/27: Heron Oblivion @ The Chapel
1/27: Christopher Rau, Jordan @ f8
1/29: Silver Shadows, CCR Headcleaner @ Hemlock Tavern
2/4: Toy Guitar @ Thee Parkside
2/4: Jack J @ Underground SF
2/10: Optimo @ Monarch
2/11: Tom Trago @ Monarch
2/20: Cloud Nothings @ The Independent
I have two wishes for 2012. 1. The Knife. 2. The Avalanches. I will be satisfied with one of two being there. If both are there, I would have to recalibrate myself on new music options. GV, please provide us with the rare performance of The Knife. Karin & Olof 4 Coachella 2012!!!!
Nine Inch Nails 11/09 | RJD2 11/15
Coachella #1 04/11-13
They did say they were recording an album due out in 2012. This is from their wikipedia page, and should be taken as such. Yet, it is a glimmer of hope.
News of a new album in 2012 was posted on the official site back in April. Not a word about it since, though.
I'm holding out for that album; I think they both put out their creative efforts on their own. Now they should be charged and ready to play together.
It DOES say "Open To Ideas" on the Windish avails sheet. Only artist updated for 2012, in fact... Isn't Windish exclusive to the US, as well?
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Coachella 2017: 4/14-16 @ Empire Polo Fields
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Why doesn't someone just call them and see if you can book them during the weekend of Coachella. You could say you represent the Pawnee Harvest Festival....


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Maple Grove Unveils Digital Planetarium
ELLERY – Students at Maple Grove Junior-Senior High School had an opportunity to explore the Milky Way galaxy from within their own auditorium.
A digital planetarium, on loan to the high school from Erie-2 BOCES, provided students with a unique glimpse at a digitally rendered representation of the night sky.
The planetarium is known as a "digitarium" and is manufactured by Digitalis Education Systems. It is an inflatable dome that expands to a height of 11 feet and a width of 14 feet, making it big enough to fit a medium-sized classroom within. In imitation of the sky, data and imagery stored within a hard drive is projected onto the roof of the dome.
Several features of the digitarium include: a view of the sky from any location on Earth, as well as any planet or moon in the galaxy; the ability to "time travel" to any date within 1,000 years to witness events such as a solar eclipse or a comet fly-by; the ability to travel through the galaxy on a selected comet's trajectory; a depiction of all visible constellations through illustrations and names; and a time lapse feature, allowing viewers to cycle through seasons at a rapid rate.
The digitarium was rented for use at Maple Grove by Chris Johnson, a ninth-grade Earth science teacher, who assembled the digitarium in the orchestra section of Maple Grove's auditorium. According to Johnson, this is the third consecutive year that he has used the digitarium's advanced technology for educational purposes.
"I've got it here for a week," said Johnson. "I bring the kids down and we do different activities, such as filling out data sheets and taking measurements. So it's great because, rather than showing them a picture on a piece of paper, I can bring them in here and show them what we're trying to explain to them with a diagram."
He added: "Most of the kids have seen a planetarium at some point, but this takes it to the next level. It's got a projector and a preloaded hard drive, which allows me to fast-forward to around 1,000 years in the future. In my classroom, I wrote down the (date of) the next solar eclipse that will be (visible from) the United States. So I'm going to fast-forward to that date, and we can watch it in here. And the other nice thing is, you don't have to worry about (visibility issues such as) clouds being in the way."
While Johnson has incorporated the digitarium into his classes for three years, this is the first time that he has involved the parents in this unique experience.
"I thought it would be cool to show the parents what it is that we're doing, because I know we didn't have (digitariums) when I was a kid," he said. "So I figured I would (invite) them up here and run half-hour sessions to take them through a little bit of everything."
On Wednesday, parents were invited to come with their kids and experience the digitarium for themselves. The event ran in four half-hour sessions from 6-8 p.m. According to Johnson, approximately 20 parents were in attendance. Johnson ran through several of the digitarium's demonstration videos, including: showing the path of the sun throughout the different seasons, as viewed from Bemus Point; showing the position of the Earth, sun and moon during the moon phases; showing the next total lunar eclipse (on April 14, 2014) and the next solar eclipse visible from New York state (on Aug. 21, 2017); showing the rotation of constellations around Polaris and how they change from season to season; and taking a comet ride around the sun on the McNaught Comet of 2006.
"This has all been calculated out, and it's all accurate," Johnson said. "It's really cool."
Johnson had also planned to hold another parents' night event on Thursday evening, for which 25-30 parents had signed up. However, after-school activities for Maple Grove were cancelled.
Digitalis Education Systems' digital planetarium system is the market leader worldwide. The first digitarium model was released by Digitalis in 2003. There are now more than 400 digitariums spread across the globe. To learn more about Digitalis and the different models of digitariums, visit: www.digitaliseducation.com.


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Ian, Janis
Janis Ian 1951–
(Born Janis Fink) American songwriter, singer, and musician.
Ian is recognized as an important songwriter whose works are characterized by a deep feeling for humanity and a contempt for injustice. According to Ian, her pessimistic songs of teenage dilemmas reflect not her own circumstances but the confusion and rebellion felt by many teenagers during the mid-sixties. In a straightforward, concrete manner, Ian confronts such contemporary problems as prostitution, loneliness, interracial love, and religious corruption. Ian's lyrics are praised for their poetic quality, and her false rhyme scheme has been compared to that of Emily Dickinson. At the age of twenty, after four years of trying to cope with success in a world where the more experienced considered her a child, Ian dropped out of the music scene. Four years later, however, she began recording new material. Ian views her return not as a comeback, but as a separate life, for now she feels she is better able to handle the life of a pop star. The lyrics of these works convey Ian's matured outlook and satisfaction in her new role.
Ian's first hit single, "Society's Child," concerns a love affair between a white girl and a black boy. Ian not only attacks the adults who disapprove of the relationship, but also the girl, who relents under society's pressure and rejects her love. Banned by radio stations across the United States until Leonard Bernstein introduced Ian on a television special, the song eventually rose to number one on the charts. Ian's early albums were moderately successful, inspiring a small but strong following.
Ian's lyrics had mellowed somewhat by the time she recorded Stars, her first album after returning to the popular music business. The songs on Stars still discuss teenage problems, but the anger of her earlier work is conspicuously absent. Her next effort, Between the Lines, reestablished her reputation as an important songwriter. It has received mixed reviews, but there is at least one outstanding song, "At Seventeen," in which Ian explores the "ugly duckling" syndrome many teenage girls face. Ian's subsequent albums have also received mixed reviews, and her confirmed followers remain comparatively small. However, her observations on contemporary issues and society present a stark and revealing message.
[Janis Ian] is a national phenomenon, a composer and singer who makes bitter poetry of teen-age dilemmas. Her most successful record, entitled Society's Child, detailed the woes of interracial dating…. Her first album, [Janis Ian, touched] heavily on prostitution, corrupted religion and children…. The second album, [For All the Seasons of Your Mind], explores such subjects as suicide and loneliness. Her folk songs, tinged with funereal dissonances, tear up the old folks at home. Their lyrics are outbursts at squaredom, declarations of independence from contemporary U.S. society. Yet, despite the refractory content of her music, she is that society's child. (p. 53)
Parents who finesse their parental responsibilities rank high on Janis Ian's long list of things bad….
Janis doesn't have much use for false gods either….
Just what exactly has happened to this girl to provoke such [disillusioned] lines?
"I saw all the hypocrisy up front, and I devised ways of getting around it. Love is groovy." She pauses. "Hate is the ultimate insanity."
Not altogether clear perhaps, but it is talk which makes perfect sense to a generation weaned on Dylan, Donovan and the Beatles, a generation which pays as much attention to the words as the music. (p. 56)
"I Am Society's Child," in Life (courtesy of Life Magazine; © 1967 Time Inc.; reprinted with permission), Vol. 63, No. 17, October 27, 1967, pp. 53, 56.
The youth movement in the music biz was given a tremendous boost [recently] when Janis Ian made her concert bow to a near-capacity audience. Only 16 years old, Miss Ian stunned her peers and her elders with the power of the material…. Miss Ian's celebrated number about an inter-racial love affair, "Society's Child," was only a partial tipoff on the calibre of this girl's compositional talents. She can write blues, rock and folk on any topic, from prostitution, old age homes, masochism, suicide, self-pity to the Vietnam war. As remarkable as the material, even more striking was the absence of precocity or self-consciousness.
"Janis Ian, 16-Year-Old Folksinger, Whams House at Philharmonic Hall, N.Y.," in Variety (copyright 1967, by Variety, Inc.) December 13, 1967, p. 45.
Hank Fox
Sixteen-year-old Janis Ian has a message. But whether its content is reality or fantasy, one theme is predominant—disintegration of the mind, leading to mental destruction of society….
[In a recent live performance, the] recording artist methodically and unemotionally spelled out her message in song. With her crisp voice, she soared to the heights while dousing her audience with her macabre incantations. Insanity, frustration and apathy, Vietnam, poverty and loneliness—she sang them all—each with the same pessimistic view towards destruction. She sang of love, yet the air was fraught with death. She laughed, but there was a morbid echo….
[It] is hoped that she doesn't take all her lyrics to heart. She has the makings of one of this generation's greatest poets.
Hank Fox, "Janis Ian's Messages: How to Succeed by Being Grim," in Billboard (© copyright 1967 by Billboard Publications, Inc.; reprinted by permission), Vol. 79, No. 51, December 23, 1967, p. 16.
Alan Heineman
[Among contemporary lyricists, Janis Ian] is second as a poet only to John Lennon (certainly) and Dylan and the Airplane's Slick-Kantner-Balin combination (maybe). She does not indulge in the obscurantist, free-associational quasi-poetry that passes for profundity among many of her contemporaries—and elders. She has, instead, the rather quaint notion that words are designed for meaningful communication. Which does not mean that she is simplistic or obvious—merely that most of her songs mean something, and mean it in an original, striking, but understandable way.
Janis deals, in her songs, with real contemporary problems in a concrete manner: dishonesty, lack of communication, the suicidal impulse. And just when you think she's taking the facile, kids-under-25-against-the-world hard line, she turns on her own world (and herself) and deflates it: Honey D'Ya Think deals with the phonily hip, Shady Acres with the irresponsibility of kids toward parents, and Society's Child—the most famous instance—with not only the bigotry of the older generation but the sheeplike, albeit unwilling, imitation of that bigotry by the younger.
She is the first to admit that many—too many—of her first songs concern problems considered (sometimes wrongly) exclusively adolescent. (p. 16)
Yet her songs are a sensitive delineation of adolescence….
I have referred to her...
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Alan Heineman
[The Secret Life of J. Eddy Fink is] a real down. It's pretty awful, despite containing some interesting elements. There are only three truly good songs on it: Friends, Misery and Son; I include the latter on the basis of some rich, imagistic lyrics.
Friends is delightful, a loving parody of Dylan's c&w-tinged stuff, performed with exactly the right balance between mockery and conviction (except when Janis breaks up at one point). The words aren't parodic, for the most part, though they catch the flavor of Dylan in early songs like Don't Think Twice and All I Really Wanna Do. And I Did, Ma, on Janis' second album, was pure comedy, and can't be...
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Jacques Vassal
The first thing that struck one about Janis Ian was her youth and the precocity of her talent. (p. 205)
It was in 1966, after her dramatic first appearances at Green-wich Village's Village Gate, that Janis made her first album for Verve-Forecast [Janis Ian]. Immediately the record earned the admiration of the educated public, but also the disapproval of the Establishment. This was due to the most noticed song on the album, "Society's Child," which tackled the problem of racial discrimination in a new fashion and without mincing words: for a schoolgirl of fifteen, not a bad start.
Why so much hassle over a song? Making use of an episode in the life of one of society's children...
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Noel Coppage
[I find Janis Ian interesting because she uses a] powerful cerebrum more to move people than to impress them. Sometimes she overdoes it and works for shock value alone…. In such cases, she's merely doing what worked so well before—Society's Child, written when Janis was a little kid, separated the liberal men from the liberal boys. But she is a prodigy growing up, and her later work deserves a larger audience. (p. 60)
Noel Coppage, "Troubadettes, Troubadoras, and Troubadines … or … What's a Nice Girl Like You Doing in a Business Like This?" in Stereo Review (copyright © 1972 by Ziff-Davis Publishing Company), Vol. 29, No. 3, September, 1972, pp....
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Peter Reilly
Seven years after the success of Society's Child, a watershed topical song written when she was fifteen, Janis Ian is back, at the age of twenty-two, with songs composed during her own private season of hell. Always one of the most sensitive of composer/performers, often hypersensitive in live performance, she has at last stopped meandering artistically and [on "Stars" has] come to some positive conclusions: yes, the public will eat you alive if you let it, but she still wants to be a Star; yes, she was deeply in love with Jesse, and though he's gone she's still in love (You've Got Me on a String). However, she's still looking around (Sweet Sympathy) and has a pretty good idea of...
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Susin Shapiro
In her soft-spoken way, Society's Child, Janis Ian, deserves mention for all her credible tunes on Between the Lines. Alternating between eerie nostalgia and low-key hysteria, her violin pathos is straight out of a Max Ophuls melodrama, and that's not half bad. Janis plays the ugly duckling, the hardheaded waif with the heart of gold. She plays with her pain, is a perfect candidate for Janov's primal scream therapy, but instead sublimates the hurt into mellow, melodic sighs. Between the Lines is a studiously earnest attempt at self-discovery and Ian asks only that you meet her somewhere in the middle of your life, and hers. (p. 69)
Susin Shapiro, "Rock around the...
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Karl Dallas
There's a song on ["Between the Lines"] about a spotty-faced 17-year-old who never gets the Valentines or dates, the lyrics of which work fairly well until we remember that it is hardly autobiographical…. [Janis Ian] was closer to the beauty queens in her song, who marry young and then retire, than to the abandoned and unrequited heroines of it…. I realised that, once again, Janis Ian was failing to say anything particularly noteworthy about one of her chosen subjects. She affects now to disown ["Society's Child"], but because of the historical and social context within which it appeared, her "shocking" song about a love affair that crossed the colour line was important at the time, no matter how naive and even...
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Peter Reilly
Janis Ian was one of the authentic voices of the Sixties, one of the street kids who told it exactly as it was without any of the "poetic" trimmings. She directed her coruscating wit, gelid eye, and scolding fury as much at the opportunists of her own generation who were corrupting the dream as at the society that feared and brutally repressed anyone not stamped out by the cookie cutter. But Ian seems to have paid a high price for her own involvement and convictions. She came back about a year ago with a new album, and, aside from a lot of media palaver about her now being able to accept being a "star," it never really went anywhere beyond reminding her old fans that she was up and about again.
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John Lissner
["Between the Lines"] is one of those rarities—a best-seller that focuses on musicianship. Though not without its flaws, "Between the Lines" has substance and depth, qualities absent from Ian's adolescent career and her hit song of those years, "Society's Child," a bristling tirade against adult injustice. This precocious hit was followed by "Janey's Blues," "Honey Do Ya Think?" and "New Christ Cardiac Hero" which zeroed in on dishonesty, exploitation, lack of communication, even suicidal impulses. At 15-going-on-16 Ian became the urchin at large, pinpointing the hypocrisies of society, ever at the mercy of its mores, wounded by its snubs….
Her songs of the late sixties, lacking even a ray of...
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Bob Sarlin
Janis Ian has grown into a charming, mature singer-songwriter. There is surely some of the snotty kid in there somewhere, but what was once called uppityness is now called arrogance….
Recently, with the re-release of her very first recordings, that pretentious teenager has come back to haunt Janis Ian….
Listening now to "Society's Child," "Janey's Blues" or even "New Christ Cardiac Hero," all songs on that first album, one has to allow for the period of time during which they were made. It was a time of musical exploration, the emergence of folk-rock as a viable form; a time of great self-righteousness and pretension. What does shine through is the quality of both Janis' musical...
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Paul Nelson
Melancholic self-pity and petulant revenge would appear to be the two main colors in Janis Ian's rather precious, nearly monochromatic rainbow. At her infrequent best, this chronically forlorn artist is sometimes able to elevate the former hue into genuinely moving introspection and the latter into valid social criticism, but too often she seems strangely content to tell us how fashionably miserable she is and that it is all our fault. Ian does not lack talent—"At Seventeen" and "Water Colors" from Between the Lines are fine songs—but could sorely use an unfettered sense of humor and the ability to separate the posture of sensitivity from the perceptions of selectivity.
Listening to...
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Peter Reilly
Janis Ian has arrived. The ugly duckling of Society's Child has, all these years later, become the most glittering and luminescent of swans. ["Aftertones"], her best album to date, is one of those joyous things that probably happen only once in an artist's lifetime: that particular moment when everything that has gone before finally coalesces into sustained, articulate, and controlled statement. The intelligence is remarkable, the craftsmanship superb and the attack dazzling throughout. Stay tuned, because there is going to be a great deal more said about this album—and I hope to add my own strong feelings to what has become the happiest success story in current popular music. Buy it, of course, and while you...
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FRED De VAN
The elusive Janis Ian "Queen of the melodic bittersweet" has again emerged into the public eye as a major artist. Her introspective, self-evaluation type lyrics have finally found their time and audience…. [Her] images of love are both full-blown and cautiously sultry. Her images touch on areas that in one way or another exist in all of us. Her love songs are a full indication of this maturation.
The songs in Between The Lines are all strong, and total good taste is to be found in every note and word on the record. (p. 82)
In Aftertones, her music like her words, is the work of a serious musical artist, charged with the competence of a committed energetic artist…....
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Stephen Holden
Most of Ian's new material [on Miracle Row] recycles old musical ideas, again evoking the hypocrisies of social rituals and romantic encounters. However, these miniatures are problematic due to the obsessiveness of Ian's craft: by combining melodramatic chords and claustrophobic rhymes, she reconstructs her psychological perceptions too literally.
Still, there are a couple of nice moments. "I Want to Make You Love Me" has a more relaxed melodiousness than one customarily associates with Ian, and the ambitious "Miracle Row/Maria" successfully evokes a complex relationship between two women. But nothing here can compare with "At Seventeen" and "Water Colors," which are Ian's two finest songs...
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Stephen Holden
["Miracle Row"] is a disappointing production and contains no songs of the At Seventeen/Watercolors caliber found on Ian's best-selling "Between the Lines" album. (p. 144)
[Crucial] to the failure of "Miracle Row" is its dearth of strong material. Many of the new songs are inferior recyclings of old ideas. Party Lights, Let Me Be Lonely, Slow Dance Romance, Will You Dance? and I'll Cry Tonight in one way or another all touch on a theme that Ian has treated more directly in the past: the plight of the grownup wallflower who can't get over the traumas of teenage rejection, even as she recognizes the hypocrisy and shallowness of the rituals that caused that trauma. Only in the...
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Michael Tearson
With Miracle Row Janis Ian is no longer the "poor, sad dear" her many fans perceived….
Janis' writing has grown…. It is not so self-centered. The remaining traces of what has evidently been self-pity and self-righteousness are turning quickly into maturity. Songs such as Take to the Sky and the building Candlelight reflect this growth. The grand finale of the intertwined stories Miracle Row/Maria is as impressive a piece as she has ever put together.
Michael Tearson, "The Column: 'Miracle Row'," in Audio (© 1977, CBS Publications, The Consumer Publishing Division of CBS Inc.), Vol. 61, No. 5, May, 1977, p. 89....
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Peter Reilly
Janis Ian is for the trendies one of the most exciting, red-hot writer/performers in pop at the moment; for the rest of us she's definitely here to stay. With "Miracle Row,"… she has seized for herself the title of Girl Most Likely to Get Pop off Its Moribund Ass in the Late Seventies.
Like the lady herself, "Miracle Row" exudes theatricality. It has equal amounts of the high romance of the low life and the jaded, dark-red-nail-polish lows that accompany the high life. Ian's theatricality, like that of another Great Proletarian, Bertolt Brecht, may not be immediately discernible, but it is there. She, too, chooses street argot as her lyric form, and the non-chalant gut punch seems to be her...
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Peter Reilly
[Janis Ian] has proved herself to be one of the most important writer-performers of the Seventies, and she looks at and into you from the cover photo with a veiled stare that can X-ray a situation, the people in it, and the probable outcome easily, knowingly, compassionately.
Janis Ian operates in the pop-music business, which perhaps denies her the instant credentials the fancier literary and artistic worlds might provide. But what she's been creating for the last several years is a body of work that, for awareness and insight into life as it's being lived (or played) in our time, stands creditably alongside the best in any field of contemporary creative expression…. ["Janis Ian"] finds Ian in a...
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Don Shewey
As far as hype goes, it may have been all over for Janis Ian when she quit writing hit songs about being an ugly teenager with a hit song. But as her craft matures, Ian's lyrics get more distilled, her emotions more subtle, the brisk melodies more distinctive. And her best numbers have become the kind of adult love songs that make singers cry and other composers bite their lips….
[Janis Ian] contains at least three tunes ("That Grand Illusion," "Tonight Will Last Forever," "Silly Habits") as fine and strong as her classic "Jesse."…
The LP has mistakes, but they are few: the solo-piano backing on "Hopper Painting" grows dull, and "The Bridge" presents an embarrassing...
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Aida Pavletich
[In the early 1960s, the genre of teen songs had "the boy-friend" as their central theme. The demons of teendom were the other girls. Parents] were another conflicting force. Her parents usually disapproved of Jimmy or Eddie or Johnny, and made vague but forceful class distinctions to keep the lovers apart. Their objections were met with either rebellion or death. Only Janis Ian capitulated in "Society's Child," breaking the mold. (p. 77)
Outside of a few songs written by Shirley Owens and the Shirelles, Shirley Ellis' dance numbers, and a few songs Lesley Gore wrote after the teen vogue had subsided [in the late sixties], the majority of the teen singers were interpreters of other people's material....
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Should the U.S. Engage Hamas in the Peace Process Between the Israelis and Palestinians?
Apparently, our question of the week has caught the eye of some in the mainstream media. Take a look at today's daily briefing transcript, in which one of our regular mainstream media briefing participants zeroed in on the question to ask whether the government was indicating a change in policy with respect to Hamas. I replied, as I had earlier in the briefing to a separate question not related to the blog, that neither had we changed policy nor were we considering a policy change. Our policy has been that we do not deal with terrorists organization (of which Hamas is classified as one). We have encouraged all in the Palestinian areas to make the choice of renouncing terror, turning away from violence, and recognizing Israel's right to exist. That's our policy.
Now we have asked what some might think are provocative questions before in our question of the week section -- or at least what some might consider provocative coming from the government (see the list at the bottom of the post). We try to make these questions both topical and to ask them in such a way as to generate informed comment, which I see as an important component of making Dipnote part of the foreign policy blog community and to building a community around Dipnote. Today was, however, the first time I had been asked in the briefing about the question of the week, so I thought it was worth noting in a post.
I thought it worth noting for another reason. Whether intended or not, the questioning at the briefing (and afterwards at the background session) left me with the impression that some in briefing room do not understand the idea behind Dipnote, which I outlined in the first post. Not surprising, but at the same time a bit disappointing. Maybe they were checking us out for the first time. Maybe somebody didn't like our question. Maybe they think you need their help in interpreting what you read. Whatever the case, we'll continue trying to push envelope in our own particular way to try to make the blog a better place for discussion about real foreign policy issues, decisions about which have real world implications for people's lives.
Previous Question of the Week Entries:·Do the Palestinians and Israelis Really Want Peace?
·Does New Information Regarding Iran's Nuclear Program Warrant a Change in U.S. Policy?·Does the Popularity of the United States Matter and Should It Affect Policy Decisions?·Does the UN Effectively Fulfill its Mission?·Fidel Castro Resigns... How Can the U.S. Assist Cuba's Transition to Democracy?·How To Convince Nations With Influence Over Burmese Junta To Halt Violence?·Is the Creation of a Palestinian State Feasible? Should U.S. Play a Role?·Is the U.S. Doing Enough to Protect Consumers From Potentially Harmful Imported Products?·Should Promoting Abstinence and Being Faithful be Part of U.S. AIDS Prevention Programs?·Should U.S. Congress Consider Resolution Labeling Ottoman Empire's Massacre of Armenians Genocide?·What Actions Should U.S. Take if President Musharraf Fails To Keep Promises?·What Effect Will Hamas Have on Negotiations Over the Future of Israel and Palestine?·What Tangible Results Are Necessary for the Annapolis Conference To Be Deemed a Success?·What Will Life in Cuba be Like After Castro?·When, if Ever, is the Declaration of a State of Emergency Justified?·Who Should be Allowed To Possess Nuclear Technology?·Will Tougher Sanctions Convince Iran To Abandon Their Nuclear Ambitions?
Erc in New Mexico writes:
Dear Sean,
I suppose I could opine that it was a slow news day and leave it at that, but I'd like to offer the press corps some feedback as a "regular" on Dipnote, if you'd be so kind as to pass it on.
See, it isn't possible for you to fully describe the intent of folks that contribute to this fine blog, as that is fully dependant on the mindset of the individual.
Personally, I don't let the press do my thinking for me, as I don't entertain any illusions of doing the thinking for others. I'm not payed to think anyways....(chuckle).
Basicly you have created a foreign policy think tank, or at least the potential for one. So I must push back a bit on the press corp and encorage them to contribute to the debate itself rather than critique it. If you'll pass that on, I'd like a follow up please, ( since I've gone out on a limb this far) and may I be so bold to ask, (if you'll take the question )
Does the fellow that decides foreign policy for the U.S. ever read Dipnote?
If he does, then I would conclude he finds it useful to do so, and logical that some golden notion he may stumble upon here be put to motion. Aye Sean, and a golden notion it was for you to start this blog. You just never know till you try, what effect on the war of ideas will result.
I must remind the press I guess that this forum is fully in keeping with the President's democracy goals globally.
Thus the global feedback to questions on topics discussed here.
I hope these thoughts help further my intent to elevate the level of thinking on grave matters of the human condition.
Call it politically incorrect as the press will, but they are not the only ones who think they can make a difference.
Best Regards,
Gail in Texas writes:
Dear Mr. McCormick,
Thank you for asking this question. It is very timely and is something that a lot of Americans really care about.
We are really tired of being sucker punched by people who are not and never have negotiated in good faith.
Best regards and keep up the good work.
Joe in Tennessee writes:
A cancer cell may be put into remission, but will always be a cancer cell waiting to kill the good cells surrounding it unless it is removed.
We can be builders or destroyers and there are times when something negative to the civilized world needs to be removed or destroyed for the benefit of the whole... Hamas, Iran and Hezbollah represent these examples.
The world is more complicated, but someone, somewhere must draw the line between what is acceptable and not. America has and if we do not, we will suffer the consiquences on our own soil.
Laura in New Jersey writes:
Hamas is a genocidal terror group who's aim is the destruction of Israel to be replaced by an islamic sharia state along with the ethnic cleansing and killing of its Jewish population. Of course the U.S. should NOT now or ever engage with hamas. We should be encouraging Israel to destroy hamas instead of urging restraint.
Claudio in Israel writes:
I think yes.
But first, the U.S. president must stay to talk with Al Quaida.
For give example.
Gary in California writes:
The problem with your question is that it is patently absurd! There is no difference between asking that question and a newspaper asking in 1941 if we should negotiate with the Nazis even though they were exterminating Jews. Why even bother posting such a ridiculously stupid question?
Eric in New York writes:
The State Dept. is a dismal failure in Iraq, and you want another bite of the cookie?
How about this: support our allies, spurn our enemies and follow the President's directives. We expect you pinstripers to follow orders as we do our soldiers. Whenever you go poaching with your independent opinions you are not doing what we taxpayers pay you for. You want to freelance? Get off our dime. Besides, after publicly admitting your cowardice about serving us in a time of war you would think you shameful twits would just quit and go away.
A bunch of more useless lumps do not exist in our federal gov't. You don't help Americans in need overseas and you can't distinguish our friends from our enemies. Why do you continue to exist? To go from the U.S. gov't teat to the Saudi teat?
Great, just great.
James in Maryland writes:
If the U.S. is ever going to be an agent for peace it must deal with the powers that be not the Fatah quislings whom the U.S. has effectively rendered impotent. If you want to end the violence talk to Hamas, they have offered and abided by ceasefires in the past. Israel is to be blame for the start of the latest flare up which led to the deaths of more than 50 Palestinian civilians. No justice, no peace is not empty rhetoric.
William in California writes:
You have to ask the question?!!! Have you not learned that if you pay people to make bombs you get bombs, if you pay people to be terrorists you get terrorists. Since 1947 we have been paying people to be terrorists and now you want that we should talk with them?
We have an entire nation that lives on Welfare. It produces nothing, Its society rewards thugs. And now you want to reward thugs.
I have a different solution. Cut the dole. Make Palestinians earn instead of extort their living. Force a restructuring of that dysfunctional society by rewarding productive work, like farming or fishing. Fi they cannot adapt, let them starve.
60 years of the dole and we built a nation of child killers, rapists, and bomb makers. It is lunacy to talk with such people.
Jeffrey in Florida writes:
That you would ask an inane question about negotiating with Hamas and find it being taken as a hint of policy changes to come should be a wake-up call for State, but it won't. Many of us hold Foggy Bottom in such low regard because, like the UN, you folks believe that talk and signed documents provide protection from nations led by evil men. Negotiations have their place, but a cold, hard examination of the facts in the Middle East demonstrates conclusively that Israel has no peace partner to negotiate with. Hell, Abbas' PA newspaper ran a front page glorification of the yeshiva murderer last week. That's the government you want Israel to negotiate with? I once held Condi Rice in very high regard; same with Colin Powell. There's something in the water there that turns folks' heads to mush. State no longer represents right thinking Americans. We are truly lost.
Red in California writes:
he only way the U.S. & Israel should engage Hamas is with an unrestricted ROE and ruthless prosecution of any & all targets...... and we should deal with the PLO & Hezbollah the same way
it's the proverbial "win/win": we get rid of genocidal terrorist scum, and they get to be martyrs. the side effect of you foggy bottom boys stroking out is just icing on the cake.
Patrick in Connecticut writes:
It would seem to me that engaging any party in a peace process seems like a foolish proposition. If one cannot clearly state and identify the goals of the various organizations, reconcile them against stated issues, come to a resolution, and then verify the terms of that resolution the entire process is worthless. With Hamas we fail at the first step nearly immediately. Anticipating the political beliefs of State Department I would wager that most within the group are not anywhere near uniform as to Hamas goals. Nevertheless, to date Hamas as shown through its actions have shown no means by which to reconcile issues.
I would have to guess that Hamas has states through back channels that they want to talk about issues. It seems to me that the Hamas movement would be pushed further along by a legitimization within the process as it would strengthen their perception of strength within Gaza and the West Bank. This does not mean that Hamas would be seen as a partner for peace (or whatever buzzword is cool) but rather they would look like they are the ones with the hold upon power against those whom are their opponents (Israel and the United States). This is the type of shadow game that seems to entice governmental officials who liked to be liked but if Hamas felt they needed to come to the peace table they would do so in very clear way. Unfortunately we in the west assume that we need to bend to those who we believe are burdened upon so that they can be helped and this shades our view of Israel-Palestine. We think if we find a way to acquiese to Palestine in some manner this would ameliorate some of the listed issues as given by Hamas/Fatah.
I think the real problem is that, noble as it may be, the United States State Department and many people around the world want to achieve peace because it is strongly in tune with their ideals. This desire sacrifices other goals and ideals at the same time such as democracy, rule of law, anti-terrorism, and a host of others I can't think about quickly. The cause of peace in Israel-Palestine is a long battle that is trying to be fought quickly so that the perceived creators of that peace gain in certain political realms in either Israel and the U.S.
If there were a foundational desire to seek peace then what the US Government and others need to do is to either underhandedly or overtly wage an education campaign of the Palestinians. I do not mean psy-ops stuff like the dropping of leaflets but I believe that the Palestinian society becomes more knowledgeable about items of western thought and ideals which specifically contrast with that of the terror-state then traction can be made. There is a danger in this. For every person you educate you might also create a skilled deceptor such as Tariq Ramadan. The Fatah and Hamas movements would certainly prefer these types. Nevertheless if one can create a group of people under their noses which disagree with Fatah's and Hamas's supremacists agendas I think you can make your way to the desired peace. The problem is this takes years... but other options might waste years of naive pandering.
The United States's problem right now in this regard is that it will not state the goals of each group in a succint manner for various well-meaning attitudes of the U.S. Gov't and the State Department which were reinforced by education and socialization. Until the gov't sits down and does a thorough decomposition of the statements, stated goals, stated actions, actual actions, and interia of the players involved peace cannot be achievable except by luck. We know the gov't has skilled people who can break down social movements without inflecting their pre-taught political beliefs and gross biases.
Why does State not know so much and instead has to reach out to the common person either to guage political support or to conduct outreach to convince others out there?
I do not believe in Kucinich's "Department of Peace" but even embedded within that naive idea that would lead to social ruination there is one implicit nugget. The resources need to be brought to bear to speak truth about a situation and to determine how to ameliorate or resolve a situation even if it doesn't end in a blue ribbon ceremony. Your best option for peace is to change the people of Palestine and bypass their leaders. Make moderates of the people and their leaders will have to follow. Making an outreach to Hamas is nothing more than a naive attempt at wishful thinking. If you reach them then what happens next and what does it do within Palestine? If you can't answer that question then State needs a re-shuffle of epic proportions.
I apologize for the grammar, I didn't attend an Ivy League school.
Fran in Louisiana writes:
The mainstream press thinks they know better than any of us regular folks what the "real deal" is and how best to solve issues. Hamas, as you stated, is a terrorist organization and should not be dealt with and after reading the comments at that question and this one, it seems pretty obvious to me that people reading this blog and commenting have a better sense of what this country needs than the MSM. I also read the transcript - seems to me, sometimes you just need to say, "I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you".
Yonaton writes:
THIS is positively disgusting!
How can you "honor" people who advocate the overthrow of America? How can you "honor" someone who is a propagandist for our enemies? What if Roosevelt had "honored" Tokyo Rose for her "accomplishments?"
America's safety is in your hands?! No wonder we had 9/11!
Bob in Arkansas writes:
@ Congerssman Kirk -- In response to Congressman Kirk (below), State Dept says it is just seeking comment on questions it is asked by the media and others.
If so, then the advice I would offer is simple: provide the questioner with a copy of the Hamas covenant, tell him to read the whole thing, and then come back if he still has any stupid questions.
Everyone at State has read the Hamas covenant, right ???
Eric in California writes:
Yes, we should probably engage Hamas.
Preferably with a couple of divisions of Marines with close air support.
Good grief, our State Dept. needs an enema.
Joe in U.S.A. writes:
Not no, but HELL NO!
It's time to sit these two brats down and explain to them how this works. They either get along or else. The Israelis play nice or we cut off their funds. And if the "Palestinians" send so much as a bottle rocket into Israel, the Israelis invade like Sherman through the south and the Israel keeps the land forever. The "Palestinians" will never get it back.
Also if the other Arabs are so concerned with the fate of the "Palestinians" they need to step up to the plate with money. Lord knows we've sent them enough money they are now buying up our country.
Simone in U.K. writes:
Has anyone asked Condi Rice if she wants to negotiate with Al Qaeda, even though they're dedicated to the destruction of America?
Would Americans tolerate daily rocket attacks from a neighbouring country without responding? Or would there be a similar response to the atrocity of 9/11 when the US declared war on Afghanistan and subsequently Iraq, without thinking of the civilian casualties, nor showing any restraint?
Another thing to ponder is whether the U.S. would give up land for a temporary ceasefire, which it's demanded Israel does.
We have to ask why the double standards, one for the rest of the world and another for Jews?
Mike in Texas writes:
There is a huge difference between asking a controversial question and asking a stupid one.
As you admitted above - Hamas is a terrorist organization and we do not engage with terrorists. So why even ask the question? If Hamas changes its charter, recognizes the right of Israel to exist, ceases their constant barrage of rocket fire and terrorist activity which purposely targets civilians, then we can consider engaging them. Of course if they did all these things they would no longer be Hamas.
May I suggest a topic for next week's DipNote(appropriately named I might add) blog:
Should the United States Department of State be completely overhauled so that a new morally grounded organization can advance the foreign policy of the United States of America?
Mark in Ohio writes:
Terrorism? Israel was founded on terrorism! Menachem Begin was involved with the bombing of the King David hotel in 1946 (91 people killed), one of the leading reasons Britain decided to pull out and support the formation of Israel. Not to mention the fact that war and occupation are terrorism, but of course if you drop bombs from planes instead of strapping them on your body somehow it's noble and patriotic.
Hamas is certainly not worse than the Soviet Union, yet engaging with them probably prevented nuclear war.
Hamas has not killed and wounded Americans like the Sunni insurgents have and yet we're paying them off, arming them, and calling it a victory.
Hamas has not threatened the U.S. like Libya and North Korea have, and yet we celebrated out negotiations with them.
There's a name for enemies we don't talk with: enemies. There's a name for enemies we do talk with: former enemies.
As for everyone here advocating more violence against the Palestinians: good plan! It's worked ssssoooo well over the last 40 years! Look at the peace and stability it's brought!
If the Palestinians had a decent quality of life 95% of them would care less about Israel. But is anyone here going to seriously argue that life in the occupied territories is something they'd be happy with? If your wife died in an ambulance because they were stuck at check-point traffic for three hours, might you hold a little grudge? If your olive grove - your sole source of income - was bulldozed by Israelis for security reasons, would you be bitter looking across the valley at the verdant orchards of Israeli settlers who get a much larger allotment of water than you do?
It broke my heart when they elected Hamas, but it's understandable. When there is a boot on your throat, you tend to support the people who say they'll get the boot off your throat, regardless of the tactics. Not to mention that Hamas provided many social services that the painfully corrupt P.A. didn't/couldn't provide (the U.S. and Israel didn't really care if they were doing a good job for the Palestinians, as long as they towed our line - we see how well that worked out)
Oh, and for all those comparing Palestinians to Nazis, the Palestinians aren't occupying other people's land like the Nazis did. The Palestinians aren't controlling another people's fate like the Nazis did. I'm not saying the Israeli government's actions are much like the Nazis, but they're closer (say 5% Nazi-like) than the Palestinians.
Palestinians didn't drop 4 million cluster bomblets on Lebanon - how about Israel? Oh, sorry, it's only terrorism if your arm gets blown off by an inexpensive bomb.
State Department Spokesman Sean McCormack writes:
Whoa, lots of personal attacks. While criticism comes with the territory of jobs like mine, I hope we can use this public forum for discussion of foreign policy related issues. That's important, not what someone thinks my IQ might be.
Back to the issues, let me ask you to consider for a moment something interesting about many of comments on last week's question of the week. The overwhelming number of responses in some form or another support our policy of not dealing with Hamas. In asking the question on Dipnote, we did not include our policy views as part of the question because they are well understood and readily available to even casual readers of news reports out of the Middle East, as well as on our web site. Simply stated, Hamas is a terrorist organization and we do not deal with them. You can search www.state.gov for the numerous times we -- Secretary Rice, David Welch, me, and others -- have made clear our policy. Dipnote is also not intended as a forum in which we are in send only mode, issuing talking points outlining our policies. We have plenty of other media and fora in which we can hammer home policy messages. However, as part of a discussion, people posting to the blog don't shy away from explaining U.S. policy or, where appropriate, sharing their personal views -- for example, concerning the issues of directed assignments to Iraq or our policy toward Hamas.
As for asking the question in the first place, I consider it a strength that we encourage responses to such a question even though, as in this case, we could not be more opposed to the underlying policy prescription. I've read on the blog where others disagree with that view. My view is that I am proud and grateful to live in a country where we can have this public discussion free from censorship or fear of coercion, the fact of which also serves as a reminder of the tens of millions around the world who are denied their fundamental rights.
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@Sean -- ....Tens of millions around the world who are denied their fundamental rights...
That is just one or two country in the Middle East, more like couple billions around the world. I think for such heavy hitting question next time try multiple choice format. This will soften the negative response to the heavy hitting singular option by offering the opposite and equally heavy to select and respond to.
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There are a few facts that most of the posters here seem unaware of:
First, Hamas won a plurality in the last Palestinian elections. Therefore, if we support democracy in fact, not just in theory, we should respect the choice of the Palestinian people and recognize the legitimate Hamas government instead of demanding its overthrow by Abbas's faction, which lost because of its reputation for corruption. When the IRA/Sinn Fein won elections in Northern Ireland, it got seats in Parliament and the right to participate in the government. What is different about Hamas? Just not white enough for us to accept? Too Muslim? Or are we just scared silly to take a chance on real peace and democracy in the Middle East?
Second, Hamas has once again offered a cease-fire (the most recent of many such offers) and Israel has once again rejected it, immediately invading Bethlehem and killing 3 or 4 people. If the Government of Israel really wanted to stop the rockets, why not accept the cease-fire, stop the blockade, end the incursions, and get serious about negotiations?
Third, Israel accepted the Road Map/Annapolis conditions to freeze settlements, remove outposts and reduce roadblocks. But it continues settlement building, continues to ignore illegal outposts and has actually increased roadblocks. Then it instituted a total blockade of Gaza which the 'terrorists', uncomfortable with watching their children slowly starve to death before their eyes, broke through and re-stocked on groceries and gas with the help of their legitimate government, Hamas. This was enough of an excuse for the Israeli army to invade Gaza again, using US weapons to kill over 120 people including about 40 children of whom 2 were infants under a year old. One US drone bomber sent a missile into a group of kids playing soccer, killing 4 of them and seriously injuring the rest.
In spite of all this, after the Israelis withdrew from Gaza, Hamas again offered a cease-fire. Who is really trying for peace and who is blocking it?
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Firstly, I'd like to complement you Mr. McCormack for initiating this blog. There are more than enough babblers on the web engaged in personal attacks and ad hominem debates that are simply a waste of time. I also advocate constructive discussion, and I welcome this important and relevant discussion about Hamas.
It wouldn't be right to ignore the democratic choice of the Palestinian people. Actually it would be quite hypocritical for that matter, seeing as the U.S. pushed for elections in the first place. (Though since being elected, Hamas has hardly run a free, fair and lawful democracy) We must look at the realities on the ground however, and I don't think that this discussion is about Hamas's electability, as any Middle East expert will tell you that this is not what matters right now. Hamas is in power, albeit enforcing its rule by brutality and lawlessness. The fact is that Abbas is nearly powerless in Gaza, and attempting to impose his rule by force (i.e. wipe out Hamas) would be nearly as ironic as it would be futile. No Palestinian entity would ally itself with Israel and the U.S.
That said, engaging a terrorist organization in direct dialogue would be wrong. It sets a dangerous precedent for U.S. diplomacy and for the battle against terrorism and its sponsors. I don't believe this is the only solution however.
I would propose something along the lines of the back-channel engagement now taking place with Egypt. It seems the negotiating parties accepted that Hamas is not going anywhere for now, and reaching for a long term cease fire is instrumental. (NY Times - "U.S. May Relent on Hamas Role in Talks") Abbas needs to be strengthened, and most importantly, in the eyes of the Palestinian public. Putting Abbas in control of crossings into Gaza is the first step. I propose a short term diplomatic solution, and long-term public diplomacy:
Short Term
- Strengthen Abbas - Involve him in negotiations and uphold his presence. Show the Palestinians, and Arab countries for that matter, that Abbas is capable of delivering. Once the negotiations can be safely uncovered, emphasize the success of moderate constituency's in achieving a solution. This goes also for Israel. Even though Hamas is a central player, try and dilute their involvement. This might be easy as the negotiations aren't actually 'formal.'
- The Road Map - Put more pressure on Israel to halt settlement building. There is enough political bickering in Israel to keep Olmert in a powerless cycle. Yet nobody in Israel has the guts to stand up to the U.S., it has too much to lose. Put your foot down.
- Define terrorism - Israel disengaged from the Gaza Strip, and was rewarded with 7 years of over 7,000 rockets and mortar shells. Terrorist organizations (Hamas, Islamic Jihad) utilize the Palestinian population has human shields and launch rockets at Israeli civilian centers. Set off for the UN and determine a definition for terrorism. Policy is not enough, the media propagates the stalemate in the Middle East and the international community does little to stand up to it's moral obligations. A multilateral effort is essential to setting the stage for moderates to manage and transform the conflict.
- Engage Egypt - Condition USAID to Egypt on the demanding accountability in the war on terror. Part of the reason why Hamas mobilized was due to Egypt lack of border security and the black market smuggling industry from Sinai to Israel.
Long Term Public Diplomacy
Re-introduce U.S. institutions in Israel and the West Bank: Sponsor cultural initiatives like public events and concerts. Promote educational initiatives like student exchanges and academic conferences. Part of the reason why Hamas was elected was because liberty and freedom were never internalized values in Palestinian society. Introducing democracy without preparing the landscape has failed, and the Palestinians are not the only example.


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COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (April 15, 2012) – Pepperdine's Caitlin Racich and Summer Ross defeated teammates Lilla Frederick and Kim Hill to win the pairs competition on Sunday at the USA Volleyball Beach Collegiate Challenge in Hermosa Beach Calif.
Racich (Santa Barbara, Calif.) and Ross (Carlsbad, Calif.), Pepperdine's No. 1 team, beat fellow Waves and No. 2 Frederick (Huntington Beach, Calif.) and Hill (Portland, Ore.), 21-14, 18-21, 16-14 to win the gold division bracket.
The victory gave Racich and Ross 12 ranking points toward competing in the AVCA Collegiate Sand Volleyball Championships on April 27-29 in Gulf Shores, Ala. Frederick and Hill received 10 points.
In the semifinals, Racich and Ross defeated the University of Southern California's No. 3 team of Natalie Hagglund (Encinitas, Calif.) and Katie Fuller (Olivenhain, Calif.), 22-20, 21-14. Frederick and Hill beat out USC's No. 1 team of Geena Urango (Los Alamitos, Calif.) and Sara Shaw (Austin, Texas), 21-18, 17-21, 16-14.
The gold division finalists had plenty of experience at the Collegiate Challenge. Pepperdine's Hill has medaled at every USAV Collegiate Challenge since she took second in the spring of 2009 with Stevi Robinson. In 2010 she took third with Frederick and in 2011 she won with Racich. In 2010, Racich took second with Kiah Fiers. Frederick won the 2009 event with Fiers.
It was the first Collegiate Challenge experience for Ross, who became well known in the beach volleyball community in 2010 for becoming the first beach volleyball player to win FIVB World Championships in both the youth and junior divisions.
Ross won the youth title that year with Jane Croson (Lakewood, Calif.), who competed at this year's Collegiate Challenge with partner Ashley Lee (La Habra Heights, Calif.) on the University of Hawaii's No. 1 team and finished tied for ninth place.
Ross' partner at the FIVB Junior World Championships was Tara Roenicke (Alta Loma, Calif.), who competed at this year's Collegiate Challenge with partner Caitlin Ledoux (Phelan, Calif.) on Long Beach States' No. 1 team and finished tied for fifth.
Pepperdine also won Saturday's team competition while Long Beach State placed second and USC came in third. Hawaii place fourth and Loyola Marymount came in fifth.
A silver division bracket was also played on Sunday for pairs in lower flights, with Long Beach State's No. 5 team of Janisa Johnson (Long Beach, Calif.) and Tyler Jackson (Long Beach Calif.) defeating Pepperdine's No. 5 team of Emily Cook (Huntington Beach, Calif.) and Michaela Christiaansen (Tucson, Ariz.) in the final, 21-15, 21-18.
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These surgery errors lead to a significant number of medical malpractice lawsuits each year.
Today's hospitals do their best to move patients through surgery and recovery as quickly as possible in order to both tend to more patients and increase revenues. Although there is some merit to the practice, it can also result in surgical mistakes-- some minor, some much more critical, and some, fatal. Surgical mistakes are some of the most common types of medical malpractice lawsuits in the U.S. If the surgical injury or death could have been avoided, or was a result of negligence or inattention, the injured party has the legal right to sue for monetary damages.
Most Common Surgical Mistakes
While there are probably as many potential types of surgical errors as there are surgical procedures, here's a closer look at five of the most common surgical mistakes:
- Wrong site surgery, which occurs when a patient's surgery is performed on the wrong body part or organ -- there are a fair number of instances in which patients had the wrong limb amputated.
- Wrong patient surgery, while not as common as wrong site surgery, has still been known to occur. A patient is subjected to an unneeded surgery, along with all the complications that accompany surgery, and may have lasting negative consequences.
- The use of unsanitary surgical instruments during surgery can lead to cross-contamination of disease. If the patient is already suffering from a compromised immune system, the results can be deadly. And it's more common than you might think for surgical instruments to be left inside the body after incisions have been sutured. While some hospitals require that all surgical instruments, sponges, gauze, etc. be counted before and after the surgery, not all do. Serious complications and infection can arise from a surgical instrument being left inside the body.
- Damage to organs and tissue. During a particular surgery, a neighboring organ can be accidentally perforated or punctured with a scalpel, scissors, or laser. Organ tissue is particularly delicate and such an occurrence can lead to severe and lasting health issues.
- Nerve damage. A surgeon's physical error or a mistake in the administration of anesthesia can cause the patient to suffer nerve damage.
Medical Malpractice Claims After Surgical Mistakes
Surgical mistakes might not always be as apparent as operating on the wrong body part or leaving a sponge inside a patient, but can come in a more subtle form such as a doctor's failure to exercise reasonable care at any time during the surgery. Doctors are human, and as such, suffer the same human conditions as the rest of us; they can be exhausted from working too many hours when performing a surgery, or they could have been sick themselves, but still came to work. It is not nearly as easy to "call in sick" when you are a surgeon who has a number of procedures scheduled for a particular day. Whether the intent was malicious in any way or not, the issue is whether your surgical injury could have been avoided if due care and diligence had been exercised. The key steps in a medical malpractice case are establishing the medical standard of care -- what a reasonably skilled surgeon would have done under similar circumstances -- and then showing how the surgeon in the instant case failed to measure up to that standard in performing the procedure. Finally, it must be shown that the surgeon's negligence caused actual harm to the patient.
A surgical mistake can trigger huge medical bills, and may necessitate corrective follow-up procedures which can require the patient to take time off work (and thus lose wages.) In some case, your physical health may not be the same as it was before the surgical error, and may never be. Filing a medical malpractice suit is a legal remedy that seeks to make you whole again, but it's a complex process both from a legal and medical standpoint, so it's best to discuss your situation with an experienced medical malpractice attorney.
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Hi, everyone;
I am humbled after reading this. MarshalN wrote to me a few minutes ago on this thread. Back in last week, we were exchanging emails on an Oolong tea since I was seeking his opinion on one product I would like to try.
On April 10th, he suggested:
perhaps if you organize a few sample packs to sell at a slight discount -- say, group five or six samples together and make it a "tasting set".
I thought it's a great idea, so I posted six sets of 'tasting samples' on the Puerh Shop website on April 10th. Thanks, MarshalN. Now it's like it caught fire.
Everything was done in a hurry. And every tasting set could fit into a flat rate envelop except 'Taste of Mellowness', so the shipping charge would be $5.60 for USA and $ 10 for Canada, as for the rest of world $ 12.
IMHO I would recommend you start to try 'Pride of Menghai' or 'Spirit of Yiwu' first. 'Year of Green Pu-erh' is not a well thought out kit, because it is not representative.
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OCZ Technology Group, a leading supplier of DRAM- and flash memory-based products, on Tuesday announced that it would unveil an external solid-state drive (SSD) with USB 3.0 interface. The device will hardly become popular due to scarce availability of USB 3.0, however, it will get OCZ the title of the world's first SSD with SuperSpeed USB interface.
OCZ will deliver the globe's first solid-state drive with USB 3.0 interface in partnership with Symwave, a supplier of various system controllers. In particular, OCZ will use SW6315 – USB 3.0 to Serial ATA controller from Symwave. The chip will enable interconnection between personal computers featuring USB 3.0 support and the new SSD at the speed of up to 5Gb/s. Other performance figures of the forthcoming products are to be announced.
"Thanks to Symwave's industry leading USB 3.0 storage controller, our external SSD device delivers 10x the transfer rate of USB 2.0 at 5Gb/s, as well as several 'green' improvements including superior power management and lower CPU utilization," said Eugene Chang, vice president of product management at the OCZ Technology Group.
Considering the fact that USB 3.0 will not be a part of mainstream personal computers until 2011 and the next generation of I/O controllers from Advanced Micro Devices and Intel Corp., it is unlikely that the SuperSpeed USB SSD from OCZ Technology will gain any popularity in 2010. Nevertheless, it will attract attention to OCZ brand and will allow the company to address customers with specific demands.
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The magic of season 8 of Friday Nights culminates through the talent and wonder of Gregangelo & Velocity Circus. Travel back to the age of Impressionism, hang out with Jean Paul Gaultier's sailors, meet a dandy from Victorian England, or practice your ballet positions with dancers inspired by Rudolf Nureyev. Relive the exquisite 2012 exhibitions of the Legion of Honor and de Young Museum with this final installment of Friday Nights.
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In that same video, you'll find out what Matt Kenseth thinks of his new Mooney and hear how aviation comes to the rescue of busy drivers and crew on the circuit. Kenseth qualified third at the Homestead Miami Speedway at an average speed of more than 170 mph in his 800+ hp car. To get that average, he had to drive 210 mph on the straightaways. Look for the "NASCAR Pilots" article in 2009. (If a NASCAR racer were to run in a straight line, top speed would be 240 mph.)
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Great Lakes Aviation recently settled overdue rent payments with Boeing Capital Corp., but the airline still owes more than $10 million to Raytheon Aircraft Co., according to documents Great Lakes filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.
Clovis Civil Aviation Board Chairman Roger Hatcher said he does not believe the company's debt will impact its ability to provide air service in Clovis.
"I do feel certain that the (U.S. Department of Transportation) wouldn't have approved Great Lakes for essential air service if they felt their debt load was unmanageable," Hatcher said.
Great Lakes did not return Clovis News Journal phone calls seeking comment.
The Clovis Civil Aviation Board unanimously endorsed Great Lakes Airlines over Pacific Wings Airlines during a Jan. 31 meeting.
Both applied for a federal subsidy to provide essential air service in Clovis and Silver City.
The U.S. Department of Transportation should determine which airline receives the subsidy — designed to ensure small communities are served by certified air carriers — in March.
The Clovis City Commission is set to endorse an airline Thursday, and public input is a factor in the award of the subsidy.
According to a report featured on the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission Web site, Boeing freed Great Lakes from a debt of more than $10 million in December. Great Lakes paid Boeing $1.15 million in return for the debt discharge, the report reads.
Great Lakes owed Boeing for overdue rent payments under a lease agreement for two Embraer aircraft, the report reads.
Great Lakes did not believe it could recover from its default of the lease agreements,
according to a quarterly financial report for the period that ended Sept. 30.
Great Lakes has been engaged in ongoing negotiations to satisfy debt with Raytheon since December 2002, the unaudited report reads. The airline leases its Beechcraft fleet through Raytheon.
That September report indicates Great Lakes failed to make full scheduled payments of principal and interest to Raytheon throughout the first nine months of 2006.
Unpaid debts to Raytheon equal $10.6 million, according to the report.
If the situation isn't resolved, Raytheon could take possession of Great Lakes aircraft, the report reads.
Overall, Great Lakes has about $72 million in long-term debt, according to the report.
A representative from Boeing Capital Corp. said it is typical for companies to have outstanding debts with Boeing as the company leases planes to airlines.
"They pay Boeing just like you pay to lease a car," said Donna Mikov, Boeing Capital Corp. director of communications.
Mikov said Boeing Capital Corp. has more than 400 planes that are leased or invested in by other companies. She declined to discuss Great Lakes' dealings with Boeing.
Great Lakes "is at risk that one or more of the company's debt obligations will be accelerated, thereby forcing the company to seek legal protection from its creditors or discontinue operations," the September financial report also reads.
Hatcher said Great Lakes assured him that its debts were under control and that the report contained outdated information.
Pacific Wings President Greg Kahlstorf said his airline is debt-free.
"Every piece of equipment we have we purchased with our own cash," Kahlstorf said.
Pacific Wings has pitched offering nine-passenger Clovis flights for an annual federal subsidy of about $1.49 million; Great Lakes has pitched offering 19-passenger Clovis flights for about an annual subsidy of about $2.45 million.
That, combined with Great Lakes financial situation, makes Pacific Wings a more sound choice for Clovis air service, he said.
Kahlstorf said he is "stunned" that people "would prefer a company that can't assure they are going to be around tomorrow."
Hatcher said he believes Pacific Wings and Great Lakes are good companies. He said his January endorsement of Great Lakes stemmed from federal standards that require pressurized airplanes with passenger capabilities of more than 15 on essential air service routes, unless communities indicate they want other service via writing.
Great Lakes flies 19-seat, pressurized planes.
Hatcher said he would like both airlines to come to Clovis, but believes Great Lakes deserves the federal subsidy because it meets outlined standards.
Hatcher said it would be "almost impossible" to regain 19-passenger flights at the Clovis Municipal Airport if Great Lakes were dismissed in favor of Pacific Wings.
Pacific Wings, he said, could offer flights at Clovis with no subsidy and fill a niche with chartered flights.