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Thanks to all of you who have participated in the discussions during the most recent series. I've seen some great comments and your interaction has been very encouraging and edifying. So, what's next?
We're preparing a series of posts from John's material on the opening chapters of Genesis, dealing with the question of origins. It's not enough to say, "God is responsible for all that exists, but how it all got here isn't important." We're making the case that how God brought everything into existence is just as important as the bare fact that He did it.
Now, before I lose any of you, let me explain why we think the issue of origins is one of the most important battlegrounds of our day. Hopefully, at the end of the day, you'll see the significance of the subject, the consequences of the position you take, and your role in defending what God has to say about it.
The question of origins won't be—indeed, it can't be—decided by pointy-headed scientists in white lab coats, using beakers and test tubes, microscopes and telescopes. Questions like, "Where did we come from?," and, "How did the universe come into existence?" are not answered through observation, measurement, hypothesizing, testing, and reporting. This is ultimately a spiritual battle between competing worldviews—we're dealing with fundamental presuppositions and fighting for the hearts and minds of people created in the image of God.
For Christians in a spiritual battle, we keep Paul's reminder to the Corinthians front and center:
For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds; casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ. (2 Corinthians 10:4-5; you just gotta love the way the KJV renders it!)
For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds; casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ. (2 Corinthians 10:4-5; you just gotta love the way the KJV renders it!)
Evolution—a philosophy driven by anti-supernaturalistic, materialistic, naturalistic assumptions—is the dominant worldview of our day. At its heart, evolution is atheistic and anti-Christian. It is a stronghold, an imagination, and a high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God. Even apart from its demonic theology, the social and cultural effects of evolutionary theory reveal the fingerprints of demons who hate the image of God in men and women.
Sadly, there are many individual Christians and Christian institutions (e.g., para-church ministries, colleges, and seminaries) that compromise with evolution. In fact, it's not an exaggeration to say some form of evolutionary compromise is the prevailing position in the evangelical movement. Many evangelicals have surrendered serious biblical ground on origins to the secular establishment, hoping for a greater degree of academic respectability, a voice in the marketplace of ideas.
Meanwhile, the giant Evolution batters and smashes with his club, denying biblical authority, devaluing and degrading humanity, and undermining Christian evangelism and the gospel of the cross. It's time for Christians to wake up and smell the compromise, depose the giant, and take captive"every thought to the obedience of Christ."
We hope this series of posts will serve that end. We'll start by looking at the threat of evolution and consider some of its devastating effects. Then we'll think through some of the limitations of science and see how it has overextended itself, trying to answer questions of theology. And finally, we'll state and defend a biblical view of origins—that God created the universe by divine fiat in six, literal days.
So, buckle up. It's going to be a wild and bumpy ride.
Travis AllenDirector of Internet Ministry
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I LOVE IT! Bring it on! And may God receive ALL the glory! Thank you so much Travis.
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I am ready! =)
I listened to Pastor MacArthur's "The Battle for the Beginning" a couple of months ago, it was really interesting and I did check some of the resource he used. I was actually when someone in my church was starting a study using Ken Ham material (videos).
John's series: http://www.gty.org/Shop/Audio+Series/255_The-Battle-for-the-Beginning
I am looking forward to this next topic!
God bless you,
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Awesome!!! Can't wait!!! Blessings!
My wife and I would like to express our appreciation to the GTY ministry. We feel blessed to be able to listen to so many sermons here. We live in the Bronx ,N.Y. We have learned so much of God's Word by the Holy Spirit through Pastor John McArthur's sermons. Most importantly, we are learning Truth. We thank God for your internet ministry.
God continue to Bless you all.
Ofie and Jose Hernandez - Bronx, N.Y.
I am definitely looking forward to it, though I must say that I have been greatly blessed by the studies and discussions on Truth!
I am looking forward as well. I have to say though, that theologians have to be careful when talking about science, and vice versa. I listened to the "Battle of the Beginning" sermons again in January and thoroughly enjoyed them. But, as a PhD physicist I heard a flaw. In one of the messages Pastor John talks about the possibility that the speed of light has slowed down over time. This simply has not been established AT ALL and there are many problems with the idea.
First, the graph that Pastor John refers to that shows the speed of light measurements falling off exponentially lacks the most critical piece of information...error bars for each measurement!! When I measure something I have to include an estimate of how accurate the measurement was. Old measurements of c (the speed of light) had enormous error bars... A straight line could be drawn through the data if error bars are included.
Second, if c were larger in the past, then any physical process that depends upon c was faster as well. That includes the energy of light (visible light would quickly become x-rays in energy), nuclear reaction rates would increase...etc...it would be terrible.
So, the basic idea is making the speed of light faster causes more problems then answers, and the data DEFINITELY does NOT suggest c was larger in the past.
I am not entirely sure what it was John said, but I don't think he is advocating one cosmological model over another. The idea of a slowing of the speed of light is not novel at all. Even mainstream, evolutionary astronomers have suggested as much under the righ conditions. If light comes close to a gravitational force like a black hole, for example, it will certainly slow down.
Even secular cosmologists have their problems in explaining their understanding of what they observe in the cosmos and how they believe the universe evolved. There isn't a unified theory, contrary to what proponents of evolutionary cosmology wish to suggest concerning the big bang. All models offering a particular explaination of the evidence will create more problems that need further explaining. Evolutionists, however, are quick to censor anyone who offers an alternative theory that challenges the core evolutionary constructs of the big bang. They are just a blindedly commited to their dogmaticism as the say biblical creationists are to theirs.
See here for example,
Looking forward to this series of posts! I read the transcripts of the full series of Genesis 1-11, almost two years ago, as my introduction to John MacArthur. People at church had mentioned his name, and then I saw his name mentioned on the Answers in Genesis website. I was greatly impressed with the depth of teaching such as I had never heard or read before, and after that learned a great deal more as I read (and now listen) to more and more of MacArthur's solid Bible teaching.
I cannot wait either!!! However, I used the link that Elaine gave here http://www.gty.org/Shop/Audio+Series/255_The-Battle-for-the-Beginning and nothing comes up. Then I tried going into the sermon archive here at GTY and again I come up empty. Can someone offer a helping hand? I would really appreciate it.
All three moderators are doing an awesome job, and I really like it when you all contribute your thoughts and knowledge.
Thanks to you, too, Elaine, but for some reason the link did not work.
God bless,
Fred, I am talking about the value of the speed of light in a vacuum, and not under gravitational influence like in a black hole. That is what some young earth creationists have said has been slowing down. That is the number 186,000 miles per second that you might remember...My point is that the evidence, which is NOT controversial in any way, suggests this number has been constant, and claims otherwise fail to account for experimental errors, etc...
As for the Answers in Genesis article, it is terribly misleading in all honesty. First, it refers to evidence proposed by Fred Hoyle, Geoffrey Burbidge, et al against the "Big Bang" theory. The problem is the Hoyle et al are ABSOLUTELY not Christian, as you might be led to think. The Quasi-steady state model is for an INFINITE universe that has always existed (ie no creation)...match that up with Genesis. Second, the Big Bang is NOT a theory of how the universe came to be, or of an explosion...it is a theory that says this AND ONLY THIS, that in the past, the universe was smaller and hotter...that is it. The Big Bang theory MAKES NO ATTEMPT to explain how the expansion (not explosion) of the universe came to be, it just observes that the universe is expanding...As for the claim that the evidence for an expanding universe is controversial...wow. How else is light from "distant" galaxies red-shifted???
Mary,Go to: http://www.gty.org/Resources/Sermons/scriptureSelect "Genesis" to see all the sermons done on the book of Genesis. All but the last one (Genesis 24) are part of the series that John MacArthur did.
#10 - Mary.
When I copy and paste my own link off here, it works for me. I also just searched by the title, and it does come up:
lastly, you can try searching by its code: 255
Hope this helps,
Lynda Ochsner, I am glad to see your name pop up again. I was reading through some of the older blogs and was very interested in your comments. I was hoping to see you again. We all share your love for John MacArthur's ministry. I have never seen a blog like this, when the blog first started I was stunned at the continual compliments John Mac was receiving. This just goes to show the hunger that is out there for the preaching of the true Word of God.
For one i'm not sure we can accuratly measure anything with time since time is only relative to the position of the sun with the spin of earth. lol. I'm just kidding but I can't wait for the new series!!!
God Bless All!!!!!
If the bumpy ride leads people to the truth, then bring it on!! I think it's a great topic!
I am so glad I checked the GTY website today, This is an issue that has been on my heart and an area of focus for me. Currently I am reading "The Big Three" By Henry M Morris, III. So Lets stand together, on God's Word and may nothing else be exalted in our lives and hearts above the Word of the true and living God.
Thanks and Looking forward to this series
I am not saying you are wrong. In fact the idea that light speed has been decaying is a point of view of a small group of creationists. Most reject it, including the cosmologists with Answers in Genesis. I am merely pointing out, however, is that both secular cosmologists, albeit a few, and certain creationists, albeit a few, have explored the hypothesis that light is decaying. That is not an unorthodox avenue to explore in order to explain certain phenomena that we observe. It is not an "error" so to speak.
As for the article I referenced, I did so to show that among unbelievers, there is a dogged determinism to defend "tradition," in this case, big bang cosmology, to the point of denouncing and censoring individuals who may oppose the accepted consensus. All the author was doing in that article was reporting on such efforts by the cosmological community. There was certainly nothing misleading in doing so. Dr. Halton Arp - who is as far as I know, an unbeliever - is a key example of one who has postulated the red shift phenomena we observe is due to heavy nature of objects rather than the fact they are distant and moving away. Because he challenged the accepted tradition he was removed from his various posts as a researcher.
Science has its limits. Especially in such a field as cosmology and astronomy. Fallible men are making interpretations of the evidence based upon certain presuppositions they begin with to make those interpretations. Because we are observing from a very limited perspective, in our case, earth bound, any amount of dogmaticism about how we think things operate in deep space is a bit arrogant.
A future post or two will explore the reasons for these limitations.
*Shauna Bryant*
I am very excited for this discussion on the beginning. I do believe that God created in 6 days...literal days. Sometimes people think we need to be able to explain HOW God did it...when actually, we cannot create anything from nothing, so how could we possibly explain how God did it?! His ways are so far above ours! Just because we cannot explain "how" doesn't mean much to me - I take it on faith because I believe God. We have such a delicately balanced world. Those who profess that evolution is compatible with Creation don't seem to understand the nature of God, even if they say they are Christians. I always wonder about that too.....are they actually Christians if they don't ever believe God on this? In order to believe in Jesus Christ, don't we have to know Him as He is and always was and will always be? I know some "old earth-God created by evolutionist-ists" and I asked them....if God created man, for instance, through the process of evolution are they claiming that God was once pond scum or that He evolved, since He explicitly says we are created in His image? While the answer is a resounding NO they can never answer that (with something other than no) and be anywhere close to what scripture teaches. Nonwithstanding all the other obvious frauds and problems with evolution, as the topic says (T.Allen) the battle is one of worldviews and the spiritual battle at stake.
The following is what NASA says on their website about the big bang theory. They do believe that it is the way the universe came to be along with what you said. The kids in scholls are also being taught the falsehood of the big bang. You cannot put the science of men above the truth of God. Everything in this universe came about from a literal 6 days of creation with a day of rest for 7 total days. See NASA's definition of the big bang:
The Big Bang Model is a broadly accepted theory for the origin and evolution of our universe. It postulates that 12 to 14 billion years ago, the portion of the universe we can see today was only a few millimeters across. It has since expanded from this hot dense state into the vast and much cooler cosmos we currently inhabit. We can see remnants of this hot dense matter as the now very cold cosmic microwave background radiation which still pervades the universe and is visible to microwave detectors as a uniform glow across the entire sky.
Can you please spend some in depth time discussing the framework hypothesis, as I think this is where the battle rages within so-called orthodoxy. Many of our conservative reformed brethren hold to this position. Which ironically is a similar argument of the recapitulation theory the reformed use to interpret the book of revelation and rob it of it's simple chronological framework. It is interesting how one who holds to the innerrancy and infallability of the scripture can be deceived into letting the plain text of scripture be robbed of its message all in the name of grammatical frameworks which are nothing less than fancy elitist feats of eisegesis.
We will probably touch on the framework hypothesis a bit in a later post on this subject. However, if you want a rather lengthy and indepth evaluation of the framework hypothesis, these two articles from the Detroit Seminary Journal pretty much covers all the issues of why it is flawed:
Part 1 http://www.dbts.edu/journals/2005/McCabe.pdf
Part 2 http://www.dbts.edu/journals/2006/McCabe.pdf
"If God can't make a loaf of bread or a fish out of nothing, how is He going to raise me from the dead?" - Dart Kendall
Dear Lynda and Elaine:
Thank you both so much for the links you provided, it is really appreciated. Me thinks I have some reading to do. :)
What I would like to know is how can scientists study a one time,miraculous,supernatural event in a test tube,microscope,or telescope? The issue all boils down to do we start with the premise of a supernatural creation event as clearly revealed in scripture or do we start with a fallible man-made theory of a long age,materialist point of view? Frankly,I'll start with the record of the One who was there and revealed it to us. Don't get me wrong,I'm all for studying how things work today,but how things work today does not expain how God did things in the past. Man's methods of studying these things are very limited and it is nothing but rank arrogance to say that an understanding of how things work today explains how God did things in the past. The one thing studying the creation does reveal is that there is no way it all happened by chance. So,there is no excuse for the naturalistic,atheistic musings of the evolutionary crowd Romans 1:18-22.
Hi Mary,
Yes, I'm still around, as much as possible, and looking forward to this series (and I see that the blog comment posting is working again). It's nice to meet so many others who likewise hunger for the Word and appreciate GTY and good Bible teaching.
God Bless,
You are right on the mark. The created being (man) thinks he can make up his own science to explain better than God (who was there and did the creating) how everything came into being. It is the height of arrogance. As I posted above (sorry for the typo on school), NASA believes that the big bang created the universe. I would rather believe the Creator Who was there and did it and Who also laid down His life to redeem me.
Fred & Todd & anyone else who cares,
I probably bit off more than can be chewed here...What I am trying to do is correct a COMMON misconception. The so-called Big Bang theory, strictly speaking, is the observation that the universe is expanding. When it was first observed, the dominant theory was that the universe was static. A proponent of that view heard about the expansion and sarcastically called it the Big Bang...the name stuck to this day.
Nowadays, the term Big Bang is used to describe the ENTIRE cosmological model of modern physics, that is expansion, inflation, cosmic microwave background radiation, how elements other than hydrogen and helium came to be, galaxy formation, dark matter, dark energy, etc...
To be clear, this name "Big Bang" is incorrect. There is no BANG and no explosion, simply expansion. The proper term for this cosmological model is the STANDARD MODEL OF COSMOLOGY...I admit is not as catchy.
To be further clear, modern science MAKES NO ATTEMPT to explain where the energy for the creation of the universe came from or what started the process. That is OUTSIDE the realm of science...if you hear someone claiming to speak scientifically about that, they have drifted over into their opinion/philosophy/religion. Unfortunately, scientists often make this mistake and muddy the waters up...
Whether a person agrees with this modern science or not is irrelevant. If you want to sound like you know what you are talking about, then realize what I have written above and include it in your discussions with people about science, etc...You might say "who am I?" I have a PhD in this field, and teach astronomy/physics at a university and do public outreach. I also believe the Bible to be the infallible word of God, and that the universe was created in 6 literal days by God.
Thanks for clearing that up. As I said, NASA is attributing the term big bang to the start of the universe and the start of the earth. The public schools also teach that. That is the reason my wife and I send our kids to a Christian school.
# 30 - Mark.
I care. =) I am following the discussion with interest. I have nothing whatsoever to add to it (since I am profoundly ignorant of these matters), but I appreciate you and others discussing it.
Thanks for the clarification on the "Big Bang". I certainly appreciate your insights especially with your credentials. We do want to make sure we keep our terminology correct when dealing with the people in these fields of study. I think the reason we get confused is because so many of the leading atheists have adopted the term "Big Bang" and combined it with the theory of Evolution and developed it into one big argument against Theism. I also know there are many professors and science teachers that have adopted this same materialistic approach to science and have stepped "OUTSIDE the realm of science". I'm sure you have run into this many times in your line of work. I'm very interested in how you deal with this kind of "philosophy" when you are confronted with it. I'm really looking forward to learning more from you as we progress through this topic.
There are many people who claim that science and God are separate. God is responsible for science, and as such any legitimate "scientific research" is an attempt to explain by what mechanism God created. It is an attempt to explain God to man in terms man understands. God is above even science. Doesn't the Bible teach us that man (even using science) attempting to negate God or not acknowledging God... is a dead man? We need to believe the living God, not dead men-no matter what foolishnes they come up with or how vehemently they proclaim it. As Rick noted above, they are without excuse and have the wrath of God abiding on them.
Mark, my husband is also a scientist (Cardiovascular R&D) who believes God and His literal 6 days of creation and there are many more of you out there who know the truth. Thank you for your explanation above.
I've heard that R.C. Sproul used to believe the framework theory, but has since come around to the literal understanding.
What I see also is pastors buying into progressive creation, thinking they know a lot of "science" -- and showing by their words that they really have more faith in what modern "science" has discovered (such as ascribing great origins truth to the findings of the VLBA system) than in what God's word clearly says. But then they won't come out and admit the truth, instead claiming that they believe Genesis, but it's poetry -- only showing their ignorance, that they really do not know how to interpret the Bible.Here I remember MacArthur's statement from last year's Shepherd's Conference:Genesis is not poetry. There are poetical accounts of the creation in the Bible, Psalm 104, certain chapters in Job, and they differ completely from the first chapter of Genesis. Hebrew poetry had certain characteristics, they are NOT found in the first chapter of Genesis, so the claim that Genesis 1 is poetry is no solution to the question.The man who says "I believe that Genesis purports to be a historical account but I do not believe that account" is a better interpreter of the Bible than the one who says I believe Genesis is true but it's poetry.
To me, the most powerful truth for reading the creation account in Genesis literally, and by extension the rest of chapters 2 and 3, is that sin caused death. I realize this is clearly spiritual death, but that spiritual separation from God led to physical death. This result of sin necessitated Jesus coming and dying on the cross and being resurrrected to DEFEAT death and the grave. If death existed prior to Adam's sin, then there is no need for Jesus' death, burial and resurrection.
I'm following this discussion with interest as well. Thank you, Mark for enlightening us! You're providing vital information that should be used to clear up, once and for all, the big bang misconception.
Thank you to Pastor MacArthur and staff for this discussion. And thank you to Travis Allen, I believe you 'hit the nail on the head' when you wrote:
"Many evangelicals have surrendered serious biblical ground on origins to the secular establishment, hoping for a greater degree of academic respectability, a voice in the marketplace of ideas."
That really is the root of the problem, isn't it?
It's been 30+ years since earning a B.S. in Veterinary Sciences, grad. studies in Biochemistry followed by working in the biomedical/radiopharmaceutical research. Sadly, over those years I saw (and still see, to this day) many fellow Christians compromise their belief in the authority of Scripture just to be accepted amongst their "peers".
Believing in a literal 6-day creation virtually guarantees you being branded as a knuckle-dragger by the atheist evolutionist, and frankly many 'theistic' evolutionists as well :/ No matter! God's Word is of utmost authority and thankful sustains us through those tough times. My heart does so grieve for what children have been - and are being - taught in public 'indoctrination centers' called schools. I've had the opportunity to do "Creation-based" science presentations in grades K-12, both in public and Christian schools and have (unfortunately) found progressive creationism (just another name for theistic evolution) infiltrating many of the latter.
On a different note ~ Fred Butler mentioned Dr. McCabe's work. I highly recommend the following paper of his:
A Defense of the Literal Days in Creation Week - http://www.dbts.edu/journals/2000/mccabe.pdf
It's another indepth analysis on the figurative and literal interpretations of creation. Much of his work talks about the Hebrew language and such (which is Greek to me - pun intended) but I found it so very interesting and revealing of the truth.
One last comment and I'll stop rambling :)
Elaine wrote:
"I am following the discussion with interest. I have nothing whatsoever to add to it (since I am profoundly ignorant of these matters), but I appreciate you [Mark] and others discussing it."
Oh Elaine, let me encourage you that you will indeed have MUCH to add as you believe in "Scripture's perspicuity on this subject" (quote from Dr. McCabe's paper). To me, that's the most important building block for understanding science...or any other subject, for that matter :)
A few thoughts...To me as an astrophysicist, many of the measurements of cosmic distances are factual. The nearest star to Earth (other than the Sun) is about 4.5 light years away. The Andromeda galaxy is 2 million ly away (ly = light year). To me this is indisputable. I also accept as proven that the universe is expanding, ie the "Big Bang" as noted above. Arguments used against an expanding universe are thin...very thin.
Now, does that mean the universe is millions or billions of years old? My reading of Genesis and other Scriptures is that it is not the case. How then did light from a galaxy 2 million ly away get to me if the universe is only about 10,000 years old? I have no idea. I don't support some of the argument that comes out of Answers in Genesis for example, in particular "Starlight and Time" by Humphreys (I think that is the author). What I do know is that my reading, and the reading of trained Hebrew scholars that I trust, suggest that literal days are the intent of Genesis, so that trumps anything else...but let me add that does NOT constitute "scientific proof".
Thanks for your participation. I look forward to reading your comments in future posts in this series. Regarding your comment on the light from distant stars, the answer to me is quite simple. When God created the "heavens and the earth", he created a mature universe. Not only did God create the distant stars, but he created the light from those stars. This is no different than God creating a man, not an embryo, trees, not seeds, etc.
People always want to answer the question "how long did it take to get from point zero to now?" There was no point zero... At one point there was no universe, then after six days there was a complete universe. It's as simple as that.
What was God's first command? "Let there be light!" So the light came even before the producers of light.
The Hebrew word in Genesis where it is talking about the days of creation is"yom". When Yom is used with a number, it refers to a 24 hour day. That is the rule of the Hebrew language. Yom can be an age or ages only when it is not used with a number. Genesis refers to day 1 day 2...etc.
I don't trust in man's science to build my beliefs on, I have faith that what the creator said is true.
Many people trust science that was made after God created the universe and then try to make how everything got here fit into their theories. I will trust what the Bible says about creation, studying in an historical, literal gramatical style. Then, science must fit into that not the other way around. If science finds something that goes against God's word then the science is wrong, not God's word.
Very good points Gabriel.
"If death existed prior to Adam's sin, then there is no need for Jesus' death, burial and resurrection."
Bingo, Mark! And if evolution is able to do all that it claims, there is no need for "theistic" evolution. Secular Humanists are not trying to harmonize the two. They want theism to become extinct. Strip away the need for Christ's atoning death, and Christianity is as dead as a Dodo. It just can't fly.
Mark, you stated:
To be further clear, modern science MAKES NO ATTEMPT to explain where the energy for the creation of the universe came from or what started the process. That is OUTSIDE the realm of science...if you hear someone claiming to speak scientifically about that, they have drifted over into their opinion/philosophy/religion. Unfortunately, scientists often make this mistake and muddy the waters up...
I think you are being a bit dismissive of the big bang as a means by which cosmologists use to explain life in the universe. What you say here, that "modern science MAKES NO ATTEMPT to explain where the energy for the creation of the universe came from or what started the process" does not play out in many of the searches I did this afternoon after I read your comments. See for example NASA's WMAP page: http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/uni_life.html.
Now I would certainly agree with you that they have drifted over into the realm of opinion and philosophy, but you have to admit they are making some rather dogmatic statements as to what is factual regarding life in the universe. Carl Sagan, as I remember his PBS special "Cosmos" would certainly disagree with your take on what limitations cosmology has with explaining the universe. You may not think they are making no attempt to explain how things started, but I can tell you from what I read, they most certainly are making that attempt, and it is done by building a history of origins that is apart from their Creator.
I've always been fascinated with astronomy so this topic really interests me. I agree with Gabriel's basic premise in that God created a mature universe,but as you know we're not just talking about the travel of light but actual events such as supernovas. In your last comment you mentioned that you do not support some of the argument coming from Answers In Genesis and specifically Russell Humphreys' "Starlight and Time". I would be interested where you disagree with him. Do you disagree with "time dilation" in general or that the earth is the center of the universe or is there some other flaw that you see in his theory? Just remember that you're explaining this to someone that is not trained in your field of study in any way. Thanks again for your participation here and explaining these complex issues.
I'm probably going to get fussed at over this, but we'll see. I'm not entirely sure how much I'm going to be interested in this one. I'm not entirely sure how important it is that we have a concrete statement of belief about creation/the end of time. At least not beyond stating clearly that scripture teaches that God personally formed and created all things and that the end of all things will come according to His plan, His time and His will. The reason I say that is, there are really good cases to be made for a pre-Adamic creation, for the idea that 7 days weren't necessarily 24 hour days, or for the idea that the end of times is going to play out in clear pattern or order. (And yes, I've heard the opposing arguments too...even made them myself until I stepped back and looked at the whole picture a little more.) Given that God created time, it's entirely feasible that He can manipulate it with regards to the creation schedule. This doesn't mean that evolution is feasible or likely. Scripture is clear that He formed man out of dust. He spoke things into existence as they were. God did it all. Do the particulars really matter beyond that? At least, do they matter enough that we should devote so much time to them?
And how can we even begin to be certain about the order of Revelations given that the historicist perspective presents reasonable historical support that at least some of it was fulfilled in post-Jesus Rome?(I think that's right...could be wrong. Admittedly, I'm not that well versed in historical perspectives outside of scripture.) So much allegory and imagery. I mean, it could be literal and chronological, but who can say?
Just seems that there are so many people who build whole ministries (ie LaHaye, Van Impe etc.) around these things that don't seem to have a very clear, concrete timeline in scripture and all to often they just muddy otherwise clear waters. It's a very slippery slope, but it's entirely possible that this discussion will turn me around on all of this. If it is indeed important then I look forward to being turned around on it. I only want to follow what is true. I definitely don't want to try to make a case supporting a point that I don't see myself...hopefully this will fix that.
in Him
Sola gratia, sola fide, solus Christus, soli Deo gloria, sola scriptura!
PS...be gentle with me. Between reading all of this, and the day that I'm going to spend at the Creation Museum in July, I will most likely grow in my understanding by leaps and bounds! I hope so any way!
in Him,
Fred, I'll agree things get fuzzy. I looked at the site you reference. The problem is "Big Bang" is used commonly to mean "all the modern scientific cosmological theories of the origin and evolution of the universe". I am saying that, strictly speaking, the "Big Bang" is simply the observation of the universe expanding...But, the term has morphed since that original reference to become a synonym for all of modern scientific cosmology. Cosmologists, generally speaking, are trying to clean this mess up and reserve "Big Bang" for expansion, and "cosmological model" or "standard model of cosmology" for the whole package.
I am NOT claiming that cosmologists in general are not turning their theory into a philosphical worldview that is based on atheism. That is commonly the case. But, that is NOT physics, but something else. It is in fact common to see it taken that way...Certainly the extremely vast majority of cosmologists are not creationists by any stretch of the imagination.
So, when you read something that says "Big Bang", ask yourself if the use is for cosmology in general, or simply expansion. I note that even creationist sites tend to join the two together.
The last 2 days I have been looking at the Answers in Genesis site again. I haven't been there in a long time, certainly not since I was in graduate school. As a trained physicist it is interesting to look around. I pretty much have kept to the physics/astronomy information on their site just because that is what I know.
Let me say that I appreciate what they do, trying to defend the Bible. The problem is, what they come up with to my physics eyes appears amateurish, and at times silly. It is hard for me to write that because I don't want to slander, but I have to be honest. I'll try to list a few examples.
First, I noticed that most of the claims are based on some really out-dated information. For example, I saw references and articles on galaxies being organized in concentric circles around the earth (ie quantized redshifts). That is from old (1970s and early 1980s) surveys of galaxies. New survey maps don't show quantization (or rings) of galaxies.
Second, the "papers" have citations that if you follow go to old issues of Astronomy magazine, or worse, Omni magazine, and the like (that is popular science mags, not true journals). If they cite "real" journal articles it is to fringe papers that no one takes seriously (that would be Arp or Hoyle for example), or it is self-citation back to some creationist article that isn't really a scientific result, just an assertion.
Third, they challenge some things that are basic standards of astrophysics and cosmology. For example, that stars aren't being formed, dying etc...I guess this could be simply my perspective but that sounds "kooky". That is fine if they have evidence and solid research to back it up, but I have yet to see ANY research they really do. It is all hand waiving and assertions with almost nothing to back it up. And believe me, claiming new stars aren't forming is a BIG claim.
Well, that is more than you probably wanted, and enough to get me into some hot water around here.
Oh yes, as far as "Starlight and Time", I lost my copy years ago. I remember it being about the idea that somehow we on earth are close to, but exactly at, the center of the universe, so time for us goes slower than for the rest of the universe...This seems doubtful to me for a host of reasons...I really need to get a copy of it again and take a look at it.
Let me say this in conclusion. Physicists in general are a group of secular humanists...Many have Buddhist and the like religious beliefs. That being said, they want to PUBLISH PUBLISH PUBLISH. If there was a shred of evidence that earth could be near the center of the universe, or light speed was decaying, or that stars aren't presently being formed, etc., a paper would have been published about it. I have never perceived a bias against presenting an idea. The question is can you back it up...
Let me preempt anyone's response to you by saying that we'll cover why this is important in this series. I think you'll see why this is a very important issue. It's good to hear your openness!
Everyone: let's not get into a discussion on the importance in this comment thread... we'll get to it later.
Do you mind if I forward along your observations of AiG to some friends I have at that ministry? I would be curious to get their feed back. I am not looking for a knock down dragged out debate, just curious if they can answer your charge of being amateurish. My perspective of their work happens to be the exact opposite of yours.
Thanks again for your response. You've definitely given me some things to ponder. I have spent some time on Answers In Genesis and much of the material is helpful,however I spend much more time on creation.com as they do seem to keep a little more up to date on things. I have also found that when I go to their Q&A section the articles are as simplistic or as technical as you want to get. Do you have any suggestions for other websites to research these issues from a creationist viewpoint? One of the reasons that I'm so interested in these things is because I have four teenage sons,one in college and three still in high school so I'm confronted with these kinds of questions quiet frequently. I do want to make sure that my information is not only true but also precise. I would be interested if any of the participants here have any recommendations for places to do this kind of research.
"Third, they challenge some things that are basic standards of astrophysics and cosmology. For example, that stars aren't being formed, dying etc...I guess this could be simply my perspective but that sounds "kooky". That is fine if they have evidence and solid research to back it up, but I have yet to see ANY research they really do. It is all hand waiving and assertions with almost nothing to back it up. And believe me, claiming new stars aren't forming is a BIG claim."
None of the major creationist organizations that I know of, including Answers in Genesis (AiG), have ever said that stars are not dying. If AiG did, then please cite your source.
Since you're up to date on this subject, could you please cite for me where astronomers have actually seen stars form (i.e. a gas cloud condenses into a star and is lit)?
AiG is not a research organization because they concentrate on outreach the general public. If you want to see origianal research then you should check out these publications for starters...
Journal of Creation (this used to be associated with the AiG people): http://creation.com/journal-of-creation-archive-index
Creation Research Society Quarterly: http://www.creationresearch.org/crsq.html
I tried to post a comment, but apparently the blog software won't let me include links. If This ends up being a double post, then please forgive me.
"[T]hey challenge some things that are basic standards of astrophysics and cosmology. For example, that stars aren't being formed, dying etc...I guess this could be simply my perspective but that sounds "kooky". That is fine if they have evidence and solid research to back it up, but I have yet to see ANY research they really do. It is all hand waiving and assertions with almost nothing to back it up. And believe me, claiming new stars aren't forming is a BIG claim."
Answers in Genesis (AiG) is not a research organization; it's an outreach ministry to the general public. If you want to see original research, then I would suggest that you check out: Journal of Creation (founded by many of the AiG people) over at Creation Ministries International and the Creation Research Society Quarterly. I tried to post links to these publications before, but you can find them with Google if you wish.
I have yet to see any major creationist organization (AiG included) claim that stars are not "dying" (e.g. super novas, etc.). Where have you seen this?
Since you're up-to-date on the subject, I am curious to know where have astronomers actually seen a gas cloud collapse into a star and then lit?
I have questions regarding some of the other things you have posted. I am pretty busy at the moment, but if I have time, I'll get into them.
Thanks, Mark.
As far as Answers in Genesis---I make no claim to have read widely their material. I have simply taken a cursory glance and have reported what I saw. Perhaps AiG does say stars are dying, but I do know they often say there has been no observation of a star's recent creation or "turning on" if you will. I don't want to get into a debate about that, since that is outside what this blog is intended to be about. (not a science blog per se).
Please understand I am not trying to attack them at all...
Again, please forgive the previous double post. This is my first time on this blog.
I did not take anything you said as an "attack" on AiG per se, nor do I have the time for a long debate myself. However, you did imply that one of "the basic standards of astrophysics and cosmology" was that stars are forming and that AiG's denial of that is "kooky." Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Since you are more up to date on the subject, then I would like to know if any emperical evidence of current star formation has come to light in the recent years (no pun intended).
I'll have to look into that. Until yesterday I never heard anyone challenge that new stars were forming...that is my honest answer.
No problem. I'm in no hurry. All of the young-earth creationists I am familiar with do not accept gravational collpase (or whatever the formal name for the hypothesis is) as an adequate explaination for the existance of stars. I would suggest that you check out those technical journals some time for the most up to date information on creationist thinking / research. The AiG web site is more of a popular resource. Creation Ministries International has more technical material online.
- Don
I need to ammend my comment. I should have written: 'All of the young-earth creationists I am familiar with do not accept gravational collpase (or whatever the formal name for the hypothesis is) as an adequate explaination for the formation of stars.'
AIG presents sound science (in my opinion), certainly I can say that with confidence with regards to biochemistry, zoology, genetics, (the 'life sciences') etc. etc. I appreciate the work of AIG's Dr. Georgia Purdom and many others in their ministry. I also appreciate the work of ICR, having followed that ministry since it's inception. There are many other individuals and organizations of which I am aware that present solid, fact-based information while most importantly upholding a 'Biblical view of origins'.
For what it's worth, I've been a student of this 'debate' for many decades. What I've experienced to be the root cause of the disagreement, especially among Christians - is exactly what was suggested in the opening post. That is to say, the compromise of God's Word to accomodate that 'overextension' of science (also mentioned in the opening post).
Believe me, this 'overextension' is VERY evident in the 'life sciences' and has been for over a century within evolutionary circles. It is what allows them to state that 'molecules-to-man' is no longer a theory, but is FACTUAL. (No dissent allowed. It must - and will be - taught as 'science' to our children.) Unfortunately, many theistic evolutionists whom I've encountered (as colleagues) cling more to this overextension than they do the Word of God. And that's where I believe the trouble begins.
By God's grace, I've never doubted the literal Genesis account. His Word sustained me through my studies and work. A Biblical view of origins always made sense to me, especially when studying the life sciences, but also in other required courses like physics, or inorganic chemistry, etc. There is no need to change one 'jot or tittle' in the Bible in order to appreciate and understand God's creation. No need to adopt a 'progressive creationist' point of view.
That's why it is imperative that our 'young ones' are well-grounded in God's Word, especially if they are attending public schools and universities. And pray! Pray for our children to be well-equipped with the full armor of God. They'll need it especially if they choose to pursue science as their career.
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I have installed rails as stated in documentation and during running command: ruby scrip\server I get the following error:
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Kikkoman, Panko, Bread Crumbs, 8 oz (226.8 g) (Discontinued Item)
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- Package Quantity: 8 oz (226.8 g)
- Dimensions: 2.2 x 5.3 x 7.7 in, 0.6 lbs (0.27 kg)
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Our rich, thick Katsu Sauce is the perfect partner for crispy Panko-coated foods. Use it right from the bottle as a topping for breaded pork or turkey cutlets or a sweet-savory dipping sauce for fried shrimp, chicken nuggets, fish sticks and other finger foods. Great for meatloaf, too.
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Crunchy Fried Shrimp
3 large eggs
1/3 cup all-purpose flour
3/4 teaspoon salt
1/2 teaspoon black pepper
1 pound jumbo raw shrimp, peeled and deveined, leaving tails on
1-1/2 cups Kikkoman Panko Bread Crumbs vegetable oil
Beat eggs in a medium bowl until frothy. Mix flour, salt and pepper in another medium bowl. Dredge shrimp in flour mixture, shaking off excess. Dip shrimp into eggs and then coat both sides with Panko, pressing Panko onto shrimp. Pour enough oil into large, heavy pot to reach depth of 2 inches and heat oil to 350°F. Working in batches, add shrimp to hot oil and deep-fry until cooked through, about 1 minute. Remove and drain shrimp on paper towels. Arrange shrimp on platter. If desired, serve with Kikkoman Katsu Sauce for dipping.
Makes 3 to 4 servings.
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Wheat flour, contains 2% or less of the following: sugar, yeast, soybean oil, salt.
After opening, store Kikkoman Panko Bread Crumbs in cool, dry place.
|Supplement Facts
|Serving Size: 1/2 Cup (30 g)
|Servings Per Container: about 8
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|40 mg
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One of my favourite youtube chefs foodwishes' chef john uses these occasionally. I live in Greece and is a really difficult product to find. So I order it via iHerb. Try oven-roasted onion rings with those.. Here's the recipe Ingredients: 2 egg whites 2 tbsp milk pinch of cayenne 1 yellow onion, sliced, separated into 1/2-in thick rings 1/2 cup flour, seasoned w/ salt and fresh ground black pepper to taste 3 to 4 cups Panko vegetable oil spray I guess you know the drill. Just try it.. It's as good if not better than the fried ones.
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Pensaba que era mejor y no deja de ser pan rallado normal.
Why discontinued??
Posted by YoungerNextYear on Mar 31, 2016
Panko is the best bread crumb to achieve a crunchy coat. Sad to see it discontinued. I was so happy when I discovered it.
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Aunque difícil de cocinar
Pensaba que era mejor y no deja de ser pan rallado normal.
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Good quality bread crumbs
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Bakes crispy, good alternative to regular breadcrumbs. If it were organic it would be even better.


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DSU President Harry L. Williams has been honored by his alma mater, Appalachian State University, with its 2013 Distinguished Alumni Award in recognition of his achievements during his 23-year higher education career.
Dr. Williams was presented the award on June 8 during a ceremony at the Boone, N.C. university. The award is given annually to an Appalachian graduate who has attained extraordinary distinction and success in his or her career field and has demonstrated exceptional and sustained leadership in the community.
Dr. Harry L. Williams is honored by his alma mater, Appalachian State University, where he earned his bachelor and master degrees.
Dr. Williams was described in the ceremony program as "a first-generation college student and a fierce advocate for higher education and for those hoping to pursue a college degree." It also noted the numerous accomplishments that have taken place at DSU in his first 3½ years as president, including the research portfolio expansion, the University's rise in HBCU rankings to 13th, as well as the leadership he has shown in testifying to a U.S. Senate committee on the escalating costs of higher education, student debt and what the federal government can do to make college more affordable for all Americans.
A native of Greenville, N.C., Dr. Williams credits Appalachian for providing him with a strong foundation for success. "I can tie all the wonderful things that have happened in my life back to Appalachian State University," Williams said.
"While Harry may physically be in another state, his roots and his heart are here at Appalachian," said Director of ASU Parent and Family Services Traci Royster.
"While Harry may physically be in another state, his roots and his heart are here at Appalachian," said Director of ASU Parent and Family Services Traci Royster.
Susan McCracken, director of ASU External Affairs, added "He credits his mentors here – faculty, supervisors, staff and colleagues – with providing him with the skills and experiences he needed to test his wings, then to fly. We are all so proud that he is an Appalachian State University alumnus."
At Appalachian State, Dr. Williams earned a Bachelor of Science Degree in Communication, a Master of Arts Degree in Educational Media, and an Education Specialist degree in Higher Education, Administration. He then went on to earn an Ed.D. in Educational Leadership and Policy Analysis from East Tennessee State University.
After graduating from Appalachian, he became its vice chancellor for Enrollment Services. He later served with the UNC General Administration as interim associate vice president for Academic Affairs and then interim senior associate vice president for Academic and Student Affairs. The latter allowed him to focus on access and outreach for all 17 campuses in the UNC system.
Dr. Williams began the DSU portion of his career story in 2008 when he was hired as provost and vice president of Academic Affairs
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So if you check the pizza during cooking does the coil come back on after closure to regulate the heat.It just seems that with the coils that close and them turning on after checking you could easily toast them pizzas on top.
Stev, I didn't see where you got the oven and the price. Can you let us know. I saw it on PriceGrabber at +/- $51.00 from Wal-Mart.


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Hating Amazon Is Not Only Stupid, It's Anti-American
First, the obvious. Nearly every quarter the same thing happens with Amazon.com
AMZN tends to retrace old highs after a considerable price decrease.
That's been my mantra for what feels like ages. And everything about it -- as recorded in the above-cited article -- went off just as described. Right down to the admission that AMZN recovered to lower highs for a while, but, over the long term, that pattern would change. Now the stock hits all-time highs as hobby.
I called AMZN's rise to and through $300 and stand by the prediction that Amazon will pass Apple
TheStreet's Chris Ciaccia wrote an excellent article where he chided Amazon for the information -- or lack thereof -- they provide on their earnings conference call. While I disagree with every word Chris wrote, I can call it an excellent article because he articulated his position well and took a perfectly snarky approach that kept me reading to the very last word.
That said, Chris is one of the people I don't understand.
Even if he and other bears are right about Amazon ( they're not! ), you'll never win fighting reality no matter how irrational you think it is. See my decision to tout Netflix
Quite quickly, comparisons between AMZN and NFLX fall apart. AMZN is a healthy company with not only massive, but obtainable long-term opportunity; NFLX is not. On the surface, however, you can't bet against either stock. However, AMZN will not crash; NFLX will.
Which leads to point number two I just can't comprehend about some people.
How can anybody hate -- or even dislike -- Amazon?
Jeff Bezos runs the sort of company the country ought to rally behind. Yet we see sentiment like this from people:
@Rocco_TheStreet @TheStreet Un-American was giving $AMZN an unfair free-tax advantage over its competitors all those yrs...— Dane Howell (@danehowell) July 26, 2013
Right. Punish Bezos and Amazon for having the foresight -- about a decade before everybody else -- to go pure play e-commerce. We should be rewarding Amazon's innovation, not finding ways to deter it.
From its beginnings to the incredible point Amazon is at now and -- amazingly -- will pass, this company epitomizes everything we apparently love about American capitalism. Amazon generates massive amounts of revenue and uses it to expand its business in multiple logical directions. Why would anybody root against one of the few companies that doesn't bitch about political and economic environments and spends to get things done?


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>Runner's World - My Event Ratings>
In short: Very good event, a few tweaks and would be excellent.In full: A couple of extra marshalls along the course to ensure correct route is taken would make all the difference. Very good value and goodies at the end, including tea and bacon buttie. Date of review: December 20, 2011
In short: It is what it is.In full: It is not very scenic, and it is laps of a rowing lake, but, if the conditions are right i.e no wind, then this is a definite PB course. As long as you go there aware of this, use this one to chase PB's, choose other events for scenery etc. Date of review: March 20, 2011
In short: Very well organised with PB potentialIn full: Very multi terrain, and really well organised with definite pb potential if you work hard at it. Date of review: December 11, 2010
In short: Tough, very hilly trail Marathon with stunning views.In full: Great/tough route around the hills of dorking, great trail marathon, very rutted in places and oodles of hills (over 7000ft of climding according to my Garmin) but you get spectacular views over surrey when you get to the top of the hills. Really, really good trail running, very well organised and great atmosphere. Unless this is your 1st Marathon forget about the PB's and enjoy the route. Can see why it rated so highly last year and should do so again this year. Excellent.Date of review: October 17, 2010
In short: Great views, great goody bag, blimming tough hills.In full: Fantastic trail marathon, but pretty tough with 5700 ft of climb. Stunning views and great organisation topped off with a fantastic goody bag and Soloman tech t. Same time next year.Date of review: June 18, 2010
In short: Fairly challenging, with some good climbs and scenery.Date of review: October 26, 2008
In short: Hard, hilly, but the views are absolutely amazingIn full: Incredible event, the course itself is hard with the final 7 or so miles over the 7 sisters incredibly difficult, but along the whole course every climb reveals the most stunning views i have ever seen on a Marathon course. The villages you run through are small and charming with the locals cheering you on, the checkpoints have tea, sausage rolls, mini mars bars which i made use of (there goes the PB). This is really well run and marshalled, if you want a tough challenge with breathtaking scenery and friendly runners this is the event. Roll on next year. Date of review: October 26, 2008
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Mid-September: Crans-Montana, Switzerland
If there was any discussion of the lack of vertical or the amount of pavement to be found on the World Mountain Running Trophy course, it has been lost amid the steel-gray drizzle, the gasping for air, the perfectly planted rows of pinot noir bulging for the harvest and the ever-present thwopping of the helicopter blades just overhead. Still early enough in the race, the unbroken stream of runners works its way up the mountain—red, green, white, yellow, blue, black jerseys from 39 countries. With the strongest men's team ever represented by the United States, I find myself in the top fifth of the field, within meters of all five of my teammates'.
Immediately ahead of me is Eric Blake, 29, propelled upward by the massive and muscular legs that have earned him the moniker "Quadzilla." Just behind me are two of the three first-year members—Zack Freudenber, 30, of St. Louis, Missouri, and Matthew Byrne, 33, of Scranton, Pennsylvania. Leading the American team is its youngest member, Joseph Gray, 24, of Lakewood, Washington. Having raced Joe no less than five times in the past year, I know that his clamorous, college sense of humor gets turned off entirely for the race. His statuesque frame is the vehicle for a long and elegant stride.
Last, just behind Joe is Simon Gutierrez, 42, of Alamosa, Colorado (see "Mountain Master," February 2008, Issue 50). Simon, more than any runner I know, has had a legitimate "career" in running: 25 years of road, cross-country, track and mountain running. A week ago, Simon won the Masters World Mountain Running Trophy for a second consecutive year. And now, for a seventh year, he is bounding up the mountain, not unlike the Jack Russell terrier he left back in Colorado.
At the first and longest of three plateaus on the course, Joe and I take the lead for the Americans, maintaining line-of-sight contact with Wyatt and 10 others determined to stay within reach. I concentrate on running close behind Joe, knowing that his recent college track background in the steeplechase will provide him with a pace worth matching. Overexertion causes my vision to blur, which I don't bother to correct. I just try to enjoy this distilled moment of few ingredients and precise mechanics—legs, arms, heart and lungs, pumping, driving, in, out, up and down. From the periphery of my stained-glass vision protrude rhythmically the pale pistons of my legs.
My mind wanders back to the days immediately following Telfes when, just as Wyatt had warned, the miles on my bike, the number of races, the numerous beds and make-shift campgrounds finally caught up with me. I found myself needing more sleep to run fewer miles at a dwindling pace. I did what any running fool would do in my situation and doubled my weekly mileage. Although it took over three weeks, the miles slowly brought my body back to life.
I pull ahead of Joe as the flat pavement ends and the singletrack begins, hoping that he will follow my lead. With the amount of rain that has fallen and the number of runners that have trodden this trail already today, I pray that my shoes will stick to the greasy corners and off-camber straightaways. The exhaust from a helicopter fills the forest like a phantom, morphing into billowing clouds, one after another, into the still, cold air.
As I turn a corner, I catch a glimpse of the furry Italian disappearing behind the next bend. I get closer and closer until I am finally matching his pace only a stride behind. I know that I should be thinking about the race, but of course I'm thinking about his nickname. The only thing to take my mind off it is the swelling of spectators as we enter the final kilometer.
The crowd is three people deep, and they are playing accordions, blowing horns and swinging pumpkin-sized Swiss cowbells. The cowbells are in fact so large that they must be swung between the legs like a child rolling a bowling ball. "Dai, dai! Allez! Bravo! Soupair! Hup, hup, hup! Go, go!"


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Water. You won't find much of it. Enquire at a visitor center about water sources, bring enough bottles/bladders to carry at least one gallon of water and treat it all.
History. More than 10,000 years of human history is recorded in Canyonlands. Multiple Native American tribes left behind petroglyphs and pictographs on the sandstone. Follow federal regulations and look but don't touch.
Supplies. Moab is a convenient supply point for Island in the Sky outings. Moab or Monticello, Utah, both serve as ample stock-up outposts for a trip into the Needles. Once you are out of these towns, prepare to be self sufficient.
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Bonnie J. Perrine Christman
Bonnie J. Perrine Christman, 69, of Findley Lake, died Tuesday, March 5, 2013, at her residence.
She was born in Erie, Pa., on March 25, 1943, to the late Carlton and Ruby Mae Kress Perrine.
Bonnie was a graduate of Clymer Central School and Bryant and Stratton Business Institute.
She was formerly employed as a secretary for the National Rural Electric Cooperative Association and for the U.S. Air Force in Germany.
Bonnie was an active member of the Findley Lake United Methodist Church, where she was president of the United Methodist Women Association and also taught Sunday school.
She is survived by her husband of 46 years, Daniel M. Christman, whom she married May 14, 1966; son, Marc Christman and wife, Laine, of Baltic, Conn.; brother, Randy Perrine and wife, Linda, of North East; sister, Brenda Hurne, and husband, Bill of Boyton Beach, Fla; grandchildren: Haleigh Marie Christman and Connor Walter Christman.
Friends may call the William D. Elkin Funeral Home, 65 South Lake St., North East on Monday 2-4 p.m. and 7-9 p.m. and are invited to attend a funeral service on Tuesday at 11 a.m. at the Findley Lake United Methodist Church, 2862 North Road, Findley Lake, NY 14736. Officiating will be the Rev. David Cook. Interment Grahamville Cemetery. Memorials may be made to Findley Lake United Methodist Church; or charity of one's choice. Please send condolences to www.elkinfh. com.


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George´s guitar was outstanding as a Beatle and as a solo artist.
My favorite guitar breaks of his as a Beatle and solo artist are from, respectively:
Triple tie: Savoy Truffle/Something/Real Love and another triple tie: Hari´s on Tour (L.A. Express)/Learning How to Love You/Cheer Down.
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MYOTO - Make Your Own Take Out: Thai Chicken Noodle Soup
- 2 tablespoons vegetable oil, 2 turns of the pan
- 1 medium size yellow onion, peeled, quartered and thinly sliced
- 3 garlic cloves, peeled and finely chopped
- 2 poblano or anaheim peppers, seeded and thinly sliced
- Salt and freshly ground black pepper
- 1 cup shredded carrots, available in pouches in the produce department
- 6 cups, 1 1/2 quarts, chicken broth
- 1 1/2 pound chicken tenders cut into bite size chunks, 2 packages
- 2 small bundles from a 3.75 ounce package of bean thread noodles, there is usually 3 bundles in one package (recommended: Kame)
- 3 tablespoons cilantro leaves, chopped
- 15 fresh basil leaves, roughly chopped
- 1 lime
Heat a large heavy-bottomed soup pot with vegetable oil, 2 turns of the pan, over high heat. Once you see the oil ripple, add the sliced onion, chopped garlic and sliced peppers. Season the vegetables with salt and pepper and cook, stirring frequently, for 2 minutes. Add 1 cup shredded carrot and 6 cups chicken stock or broth. Cover with a lid and bring up to a simmer. Once simmering, add the chicken simmer 5 minutes then add noodles and simmer 5 minutes more. Remove the soup from the heat and add the cilantro, basil and the juice of 1 lime.
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If you are a Propellerhead you have probably seen at least one of their irreverent tutorials. This latest video about Audiomatic Retro Transformer makes the comparison to Instagram.
In the article accompanying the tutorial Creative Digital Music explores the premise and delves into what the author, Peter Kern, calls the "Instagram Music phenomenon – digital music covered in layers of crackly fuzz for no terribly good reason, uncreative cynicism and artificial nostalgia posing as authenticity." But he also finds the effect fascinating.
He still has some reservations about how these tools can hinder originality and outlines three ways to avoid the trap: use the presets on unexpected content, try making your own push-button presets as a creative tool or use turning these filters on as a way to turn them off.
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J-Lo is 55!
December 29, 2007. Posted by Joshua Jackson.Add new comment | Filed under: banner year, Birthdays, christian mcbride, class act, drummer jeff, favorite places, jazz standard, jeff tain watts, joe lovano, kenny barron, mccoy tyner quartet, montefalco, nation hope, orvieto italy, palazzo del popolo, Riff, sagrantino, toast of the nation, trio da paz, umbria region, Video, www youtube, york crew
Joe Lovano, that is.
It's Lovano's 55th birthday today, and he's celebrating it with a three-day run with his quintet at the Palazzo del Popolo in Orvieto, Italy. What a way to end a monumental year. Wish I could be there, since Italy's Umbria region is one of my favorite places to be, but I'll be spending my New Year's Eve at Jazz Standard, with Trio da Paz, Kenny Barron, and a great New York crew for NPR's Toast of the Nation (hope you'll be listening!).
Incidentally, Toast of the Nation is where Lovano's 2007 began, as a member of the McCoy Tyner Quartet (bassist Christian McBride and drummer Jeff "Tain" Watts make four) at Yoshi's. You can hear the fruits of that week at Yoshi's on record.
It's been such a banner year for Joe. Check out the video below. And when you see him again, raise a glass of my favorite Umbrian wine, Paolo Bea's Sagrantino de Montefalco, in honor of him.
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Thompson Hospital's Diagnostic Imaging Department will hold free varicose vein consultations on Tuesday, April 23, from 4 to 8 p.m.
These free consultations, with vein specialist Dr. David E. Lee, will be held by appointment only.
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It is still unclear about the timing and location of spawning of Sphyraena barracuda. Some research reports that they spawn in the spring. Others claim that they spawn in association with particular phases of the moon. Still others claim that great barracudas spawn throughout the year with the exception of the winter months when it is cooler. It may be that great barracudas show different spawning patterns in different areas of the world. Overall, the picture of spawning patterns in great barracudas is incomplete (Paterson 2000).
Great barracuda do not care for their fertilized eggs. They are left to drift out into the ocean and eventually take form (Paterson 2000). When the fish spawn they enter shallow waters such as estuaries. The larvae hatches and seeks shallow weedy areas on the margins of clear-water estuaries. When the larvae reach a length of about 80mm they move to the deeper waters of adjacent reed beds. At about 300mm they will move to open waters and eventually they will move out of the estuaries completely at about 500mm in length (Blaber 1997). (Blaber, 1997; Paterson, 2000)
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Here's how RW members rated this race in the past (43 votes).
Date of review: January 26, 2013
In short: One for blowing away the cobwebsDate of review: January 5, 2009
In short: A refreshing way to start the yearIn full: This was my first race of the year :) and it was a very fast course. I must admit I was expecting more of a run by the seaside and was prepared for the icy North sea winds (some people were running in vests and shorts - madness, bravery or hangover cures!), but most of the course was around the streets and golf course of Cleethorpes.This made the race faster though and everyone seemed to be going like the clappers at the start which helps with the PB's.There was quite a good crowd at various places and the marshalls were all very helpful and supportive - I thought most people would still be in bed nursing a hangover.If you want to start the year off with a morale boosting run then I would definitely recommend this. Date of review: January 4, 2009
In short: My first ever race, family loved it, everyone supportive, good way to spend the day.In full: Having just started running I entered for the experience so I don't have any other races to compare with. I was apprehensive to start with as I didn't know what to expect. My wife and son came to watch and had a great experience. My son who is 4 couldn't understand why I didn't win! Well I enjoyed it and came in around 52mins which is a PB based upon my training runs. I am still waiting to see the results as the website hasn't been updated yet. Would have appreciated a race map up front, I did go to the cricket club to view the details but found it to be locked up during the day time.Anyway a great day had by all, as long as I am fit I will be there next year to see if I can beat my time and place!Date of review: January 4, 2009
In short: Good race, well organisedIn full: The one issue i have is that they use a megaphone at the start of the race to announce ?? and as i was near the back i couldn't hear a word of it! Perhaps the person with the megaphone could stand in the middle to do the talking bit then go to the front for the start??!?!?Thanks to all encouraging marshalls. Date of review: January 2, 2009
In short: The classic Cleethorpes 10k ...In full: The course is not particularly inspiring but the date makes the race special. Although described by a lady in the loos as "pancake flat", the gradual inclines (and the night before) make it feel a slightly tougher course.The organisation was great as always with good support from the marshalls and a very welcome tea making service back at base. Definitely one to do year after yearDate of review: January 2, 2009
In short: Was hoping for a sea view on the run!In full: I enjoyed the run because I achieved a new PB but would have liked it better if it had been a run with a scenic view!Date of review: January 2, 2009
In short: Good race with pb potentialIn full: Just one slight moan, at the start there was an announcement about no headphones...why wasn't this included in the race instructions that were posted out???Date of review: January 2, 2009
In short: Great way to start the new yearIn full: Nice flat course, ideal for beginners, i ran a new PB and will definately be back next yearDate of review: January 2, 2009
In short: Good way to spend new years dayDate of review: January 1, 2009
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