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Posted on 03/08/2012 1:06:42 PM PST by sodpoodle
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Seems like this happens more in an election year. Maybe the press amplifies the news more?
report of an officer down .... dang it.
Someone went mad?
Common sense psychiatric clinic control laws could have prevented this...
Guess the shooter didn't check the box on the form that asked if the buyer of the gun had ever had any mental problems.
Isn't there a law against such things?
They will say it's the NRAs fault and the easy availability of guns.
More BS from the anti-gunners.
police officer shot in leg, supposedly gunman dead.
Let's just give all the nutbars guns and lock them down in a concrete room. It'll make a for a shooting good time!
Now he's a good gunman.
Obviously, the NRA's fault. They held their national convention in Pittsburgh not so long ago. < / sarcasm >
Unfortunately, the press has strong input to public perception of reality. See "Year of the shark" for an example. The press advocates for itself by asserting the meme that it is a "watchdog" and "pillar of democracy."
Local news reporting 2 dead at Western Psych Hospital in Oakland,PA. Cops & SWAT going room to room in Hospital. Gunman walked into lobby and began shooting. 6 wounded including one cop. Local schools and University in lockdown.
I don't peg the practice of psychiatry as being phoney (at least not necessarily phoney) but it seems to be in the thrall of looie leftists who could never see the need for such an office to be able to defend itself from... armed looneys! They had to call a cop and wait for the cop?
Prayers up for all who will be affected by this tragedy.
More like an elaborately constructed selective mask than a "watch dog." And in a sense the public has itself to blame because otherwise they would not tolerate such slant and cry out for better integrity — it seemed Fox had made steps in that direction, but then Fox blew it all by going in the tank for Mitt.
I'd like to see the statistics of people who have benefited from psychiatry in a constructive way, not just medicated with prescription drugs.
Dear God. Prayers to these families and those impacted by this tragedy. Life is stressful more than ever and we need God's grace for everyone.
My mother works in the building next door to this. She called me and said they're keeping everyone inside on lockdown until further notice.
My in-laws were at the hospital during this (but not near the flying bullets). Apparenty they are out of 'lock down' now so I guess they got the perp.
By excepting the practice of medicine (that's why it's psychIATRY not psychOLOGY) you bias the question and I rightly protest. Modern medications have eased the task of dealing with both acute and chronic brain disorders, and need not be taken forever if used for an acute problem any more than a patient needs to take an antibiotic forever. The medications work nicely and are the reason that we no longer have huge, sprawling insane asylums in this society. For longer term counseling, patients see psychologists — that is cheaper.
The meds suppress the problem, not solve it.
Your son has ADD? Give him Ritalin or some other psychotropic drug!
psych clinic? as in....where kids go to receive counseling?
or, as in....where psych students go to participate in lab experiments as part of their psych credit?
Sounds like they are clearing the building. SWAT,FBI and Pittsburgh police out in force. My guess is that they think there was two morons.
I'm one. The right medication for my bipolar symptoms has changed my life a 1000% for the better.
There's certainly quackery in the field, but when it works the way it's supposed to, it's a true godsend.
>> and began shooting towards receptionist. Two armed guards/cops on duty returned fire.
Friendly fire?
Id like to see the statistics of people who have benefited from psychiatry in a constructive way, not just medicated with prescription drugs.
Don't have that for you, Jack, just an anecdotal story of my bipolar mom, who at age 65 went off the proverbial rocker, and has had to be committed 4 or 5 times now when she goes off the meds and becomes dangerously psychotic.
Without the meds, she'd be dead and may have taken a few people with her. She self medicated with booze and liked to go for drives.
Most recent reports have 2 dead and 7 injured. Also the gunman was found dead in a hallway.
The cop was shot in the leg and taken to the hospital.
I had a friend named Sy, who went off his rocker as they say. People axed me, "Is Sy cotic?"
Just heard, AP reporting that one of the 2 dead is the gunman
Its a big psych hospital. Western Psychiatric Institute and Clinic part of the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center.
Two confirmed dead; one the shooter. Seven confirmed injured (no status given) seven victims being treated at UPMC Presbyterian ER. Original reports of second gunman/hostage situation FALSE.
Pgh Police; Pgh SWAT; FBI clearing WPIC (Western Psych) floor by floor. Patients/staff being evacuated to Pitt's Peterson Event Center or other UPMC facilities as medically needed.
Carlow University and University of Pittsburgh on spring break; but elementary school on Carlow campus and Pgh Central Catholic and Oakland Catholic HS off lock downs.
WPIC is on DeSoto Street in Pgh's Oakland neighborhood.
Radio says the gunman is among the dead. Whatever demons haunted, he's finally found peace.
I was a little concerned we'd have one of these this afternoon at the Bexar County courthouse - guy we were deposing is such a nutjob we had to have deputies stationed outside the room and in the courtroom after the judge threatened to hold him in contempt. Fortunately, I carry.
Wrong. A chemical brain imbalance is not 'solvable'. It is no different than taking Synthroid for a thyroid problem. You are replacing what your body doesn't make.
Not necessarily. It can help someone get through a temporary issue (divorce, grief, etc.). It also depends on what you mean by the "problem". E.g., If it's not being able to hold a job, meds can amend that.
Did it just come on at 65 or were there signs before?
Why are these incidents never perpatrated by "Gunwomen".
They just kill their children. /s
You could also say that antibiotics only "suppress" an infection and do not "solve" it — but they put the body in a position of better advantage to cope. The idea of a medicine as a fix rather than as a bandage to a wounded mind so that it can heal through slower means is being presented and then bashed as a straw man here.
And normally by other means than guns.
Or the woman in a suburb close to me (Naperville IL) who drugged her children silly then suffocated them with pillows in bed, in a mad desire to get back at a husband she wasn't getting along well with.
The gunman got around:
There were shell casings found on the second floor as well, reportedly.
... the gunman may have been using a 9mm gun.
According to the story there are many more civilians that have suffered injures.
"Two people are reportedly dead and several are wounded"
So sad. Prayers to the friends and families.
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there are 5 more pics already,fyiReplyDelete
I was waiting for the HQ's :)Delete
Peeps our girl is trying to fuifill her job, let's support her.
She is strong and smart but she needed us more than ever.
Our girl looks gorgeous...miss you Kristen😍😍😍ReplyDelete
she looks great and i think she gains some weight
iam happy for that
she is astrong girl :)
there is a watch that I spy at her left hand...and make me wonder if it's really over or, maybe the opposite?....ReplyDelete
Yes you're right which means rob is not wearing it .. I think it was her gift to rob on his bearthday so if he is not wearing it does that mean he has returned all her gifts to him ?!!Delete
well I am not the only one to see that....I think is a time to move on.....Delete
Are you purposely trying to stir up some shit? Nothing is wrong. She's wearing all her tokens. She isn't some pathetic woman who, after a break-up, would still wear all that he gave to her. They're together, still. Working on their relationship. If you're only here to try to make people waver in their believes and stop believing what's right in front of them, then don't let the door hit you on the way out.Delete
REALLY you need to look carefully before starting BS, she's wearing the RING and NECKLACE from Rob. If she is wearing his watch it wouldnt bR any different than when she wears his hat.Delete
Happy to see she's keeping Rob close!! (tokens)! I believe they are back together and only took time off! hopefully they will be even stronger as a couple! don't believe we will see them together until after BD2! Glad she is keeping her committments, it shows how professional she is (they are).
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It's Rob's watch. He was wearing it during the cosmopolis press tour. If you look at the photos of his GMA interview you will see the watch. It's the same one Kristen is wearing. More confirmation that these 2 love birds are together and most likely always were from the beginning this so called "scandal" broke.
The media said they broke up neither Rob nor Kristen ever confirmed it. Remember the tabs admitted to parking a moving truck in front of their home just so they can have photos and claim Kristen was kicked out of the house.
Rob had a great opportunity to say they were apart on the Jon Stewart Show Jon gave him an opening and he didn't. Same thing during GMA, and nothing.
Their reps could have every easily come out and said the usual BS rep say when couples break up. You know the crap like "we love and care for each other very much but we ask that you respect our privacy during this difficult time......" BS.
That wasn't done either.
Come on folks take your blinders off. There is more to this story than the fabricated photos. There are a lot of people making a shit load of money from this scandal.
I being a Rob and Kristen am just glad that they are together. She has a smile on her face, his ring on her hand, His clothes on her body, now watch on her wrist.
It's good to see her out again. I hope the paps weren't too mean with her. There doesn't seem to be any pics of her leaving LA. I wonder how she managed that?!
Ha I love the stain on her shirt. That is totally something I would do, spill something down me.
Sorry, but your comments are outrageously idiotic. She's been wearing watches since forever. Up until last year she was always wearing a leather brown one, and I have definitely seen her wearing a black one as well. It's probably this one. And the watch doesn't look exclusively like a man's watch to me. STOP OVERTHINKING THIS PEOPLE! DON'T ACT LIKE A BUNCH OF PSYCHOS!Delete
If you look at the watch Kristen is wearing and then at the watch Rob was wearing during Cosmopolis Promo, they are totally different. Rob's has a gold face and buckle and hers is Silver.Delete
she looks great, and yes she looks like shes gained some weight. :)ReplyDelete
she looks very good ....Jawa is a Czech motorbike...you go girl:-)ReplyDelete
The ring ......check.
Shades ......check.
That's all i need, we do not need to know anything else.
I love Robsten woohoo!
where is the rin omg ??????????????im sad now they really broke up!!!!!!!!!!!ReplyDelete
She wearing it and the necklaceDelete
ffs people, calm down. The ring is on, you can see it in pics. So is the necklace(another gift from rob) and the bracelet(rumored to be another gift from him as well). As for the watch? Who the hell knows, and more importantly; who the hell cares. Watches can be worn by multiple people you know.ReplyDelete
Calm down, they are together. Maybe not at that moment but they ARE TOGETHER. Kristen is too confident and strong to show up wearing the jewelry unless it means they are together. She knows that millions of fans will be looking and would only be considered pathetic if they weren't together!
Have faith and we will be rewarded!
Hi Liz, great to see you here. I stop commenting on RPI. Maybe we can interact here~Delete
Hey LIZ, Monica,
I remember you lovely ladies. If I may say, there is one person on that RPI site that I cannot stand. She claims to be a Kristen supporter, yet I smell hatred and indifference for her behind her pretentious words of support for Kristen. I can't stand those kinds of people. I have to deal with enough two-faced people at work. I have more respect for those who are direct in saying they hate her, then trying to pretend that they support her. Every time she makes a comment, I cringe. I never respond to her long and pointless comments of fake support because I read her comments long enough to know that it's not worth my time to respond to that kind of person.
Monica & Anon - PLEASE come back to RPI... don't let one person keep you away, you are missed...
Twirling in LALA LAND...
What happend to Kristen old bodyguard?ReplyDelete
I don't know but I think because her security concerns were upped an a new team was hired.Delete
So nice to see her surface.
What I noticed was that she was keeping her fingers curled into her palms. Perhaps so as not to show the middle right finger of right hand? BUT! At least one pic, does show IT! And the gold band is still on it!!!!!
I'm not jumping to conclusions. Just... It's kinda' nice to still she her wearing it. :-)
And btw, I remember ages ago... Way, way back... Watching and noting and even commenting in blogs, about her always wearing that gold band. And I never could get a response out of anyone, it seemed. -pout-
Well, everyone sure notices it now!!! -chuckle-
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You can't keep your lowlife opinion to yourself? Maybe she spilled something during the flight, you never know.Delete
Who gives a sh*t, girl always keeps it REALDelete
Maybe she is wearing the watch to keep track of what time it is in LA ;)
I think if she has lost weight, maybe the ring is a tiny bit loose...she keeps her hand closed like that to make sure it doesn't slip off in all of the push and shove of the paps.
I'm thinking of the same thing. What happened to her old bodyguard? Maybe the bodyguard got fired for tipping the tabloids about Kristen's whereabouts. Just guessing....ReplyDelete
I've been thinking that too. Bodyguard's must know a lot of secrets about their clients. I wondered whether it may have been him who tipped them off. He's usually always by her side.Delete
OK people - lets grow up. ONE - she is wearing The Ring. The Scapula. The Bracelet. TWO - She is wearing his watch which he was only just recently wearing after the scandal broke. You do realize that means they are living in the same place - she has access to his things. *SMH* He gave gifts back? REALLY PEOPLE? You're worse than the tabloids with starting rumors and lies. THREE - She is smiling and happy. FOUR - She TOLD YOU in that interview that she interacts with the fans all the time. NOT ON TWITTER...she interacts by giving hints that they are still together all the time. So does Rob. Open your eyes and see. They are together. They never broke up. They've been telling you the whole time, just not with words. She's not wearing his stuff because she is desperate or trying to get him back. That crap is for little high school girls. Grown up women don't think like that. Really. The films they do look more cheating than those picts...which are STAGED. This whole thing is staged. Relax. Sit back. And watch it all unfold. Once BD promo hits - this whole scandal thing will be put to rest. I can assure you all of that. Please trust me. All is well.ReplyDelete
@anon 9:37 Finally someone with brains. Thank you so much for saying what I was thinking. Some of these people are just pathetic,Delete
God bless
Your heart
And words. They ve ne ve r broken up . Working their relationship is what They are doing . Lets support Kristen and her job right now . Lets not discuss her relationship .
ONE LAST THING: HBG is working with Jen Aniston right now. He has been on long term assignment with her for quite some time. I have seen him go back and forth between Rob and Jen for years now. Kristen only picked him up when she did the Australian Promo for Eclipse (or was it New Moon) when Rob was filming. He sent Dean to watch over her. Then she was using him too. But whenever they have nothing going in - Dean moves on to other Clients. He is not only used by them. It's a service I believe.ReplyDelete
I think you'r right, that looks like the watch that was given to him when they honored Chris Weiz, you all know the watch was not a gift from Kristen right???
Wow!!! I am really happy she is letting us know everything is fine with them!!
I love them both and wish them all the happiness possible!! :)
Thank you!! :)Delete
I thought it was Dean who usually works with Jen Aniston? He was working with her when Rob was doing Cosmo rounds last month.Delete
O.K. guys, if one of you is good at showing a pic of the watch on Rob and side by side now Kristen, we can say Robsten is back!! who is up for the challenge??Delete
I think you're getting your bg's mixed up....Dean is now working for JA atm and Dean was Robs bg.....HBG was Kristens bg but he doesn't seem to be around much now,who knows why.....Delete
now I don´t care the ring, the necklase or Rob I want to know where is her beatifull bodyguard... is Dean the name? where is he? I miss him...am I the only one to miss him? :)LOL
OMG!!! Can we all just grow up? Maybe they bought matching watches...maybe it is Rob's...maybe it is hers. SO WHAT? Recent report state they are living together again. Just leave her alone and be supportive. If you can't be supportive of her, why are you looking at pics of her. And speaking of that....how many pics would ever be enough for the paps? Kristen is right. If she tells a little about her private life, people will want more.Delete
Dean was Rob's BG.Delete
The watch face is a different color than Rob's.Delete
You are confusing the bodyguards… Rob and Jeniffer Aniston are the ones that share bodyguards and his name is Dean.. HBG has been with Kristen for a very very long time.. Sadly, I think he's no longer with her.Delete
ooohhh really he is not more with Kristen???? i am will miss Kristen old BGDelete
Well i don't care the ring or the necklace as long as Kristen's happy, iam happy to see her beautiful face.ReplyDelete
I'm so glad she seems like she put on some needed weight,last time i saw her in TIFF she is so skinny,it's scary.Always be happy and healthy Kristen,we'll always be here for you.I'm glad the storm has past in her life,i,hope she's in a peaceful place or atleast getting there.ReplyDelete
It's Rob's watch, he was wearing it at Comic Con in JULY also in NYC in August. Haters STFU They are together. Love tokens prove a lot. She already admits she interacts with us, maybe not with words but by her accessoriesReplyDelete
I'm so happy to see her again. I miss her so much!!! I'm in happy tears now. *.*
People said she gained some weight? I dun see that. She's still too thin. I hope she's doing better these days. I Love her and nothing is gonna change that.
She looks great, true to herself, and this is the most important! She is always the best, she never disappoints! I'm sooo happy to see her :)ReplyDelete
JAWA means ~Love/passion (Arabic) . Kristen is sending us a message... again.
Why are there people starting drama in here. RobstenDreams is an awesome site for fans. If you don't like Kristen don't go to fan sites and critize her. She looks great and YES she is gaining weight and YES she looks HAPPY and YES her and Rob are together whether you like it or not. I love Kristen Jaymes Stewart.
Kristen looks great, true to herself, that's the most important. She's always the best, she never disappoints. I'm soo happy to see her :)ReplyDelete
they back oh no.. come on right now matters right now and put all the good vibrations on the present so i believe in my heart right now on this moment not yesterday just right now!ReplyDelete
I dont think thats the same watch but i dont know im all confuse i dont really bealive the magazines because they make up stories all tge time just to sell magazines but i hope the paparazis are not yelling at her and saying private things just like the paparazzis in LAX they were mean to her.ReplyDelete
Chilax peeps, only Robsten can give us heartattack with anticipation.
The hype with this two is gianormous.....lets sit back and enjoy....no boring moment with them like their love for each other steaming passionately hot.
Haters must be boiling with high blood pressure ha! Ha! ha! Fkrs!
they are back togehter already she wear robert's watch she still love robert aswee robert really in love kristen good luck both of them
For me it absolutely doesn't matter whether she's wearing the ring or not. It's enough when she's happy and smiling. When she looks good, I'm happy and I don't need nothing else. I'm glad to see her again, today is a good day.ReplyDelete
Who cares shes wearing the necklace,ring,and the watch ppl get really crazy when they see her wearing something of him calm down and take a deep breathe maybe she has the same watch and robert dosent really wear a watch on his wrist the only time i saw him wearing it was in comic con and is weird when a girl wears a guys watch arent they big for her wrist.ReplyDelete
Hi Kristen! Just enjoy the Fashion Event and have a relaxing moment while in France. If i may wish, i do hope Robert will follow you, surprisingly or in ninja mode. hehhehehe. Stay smiling and glooming.
Btw, just noticed the ninja HBG is not around. hmm. wondering what happened to him. Just missing the original HBG. :)
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