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Biggest robbery in my world. -- greatest rivalry in sports one of the greatest rivalry in sport is that he's Red Sox certainly right up there about why and I I don't think the Yankees the Red Sox have met as many times in the playoffs in. Yes as 3030 were more clarity slower times. -- in England Indian. -- What. Can government -- my -- happen anywhere and Indian. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- There always are all my there always. Are a number. And the message through a the yeah now. Here's the Texas says why isn't anyone calling out -- this gold digger. For recording a poor old man I know -- -- and not someone who doesn't know the story come on I don't think it is too many people who feel that way. Now she is an archive list yeah she's really no -- being recorded. We've got the guys in Erie and ego maniac racist billionaires yeah. Who else and -- what we have every side -- that basically in it and I mentioned it earlier parent divorce. Deposition he calls -- hooker. Yeah you don't feel that -- for sacks on Soledad cease traction. I think most people. I don't think feel bad for an old guy who gets sucked in by by a young woman did not unless he has the dementia right. I mean if it's a rich guy laying who has an estranged wife who's like. How old is Donald Sterling 81 thank you and she's what are twenties yeah. One I really do have to break this down like she. She -- Heidi she she she he loves it when he hit you when she -- toes that section out like all or maybe like if you want to answer and pictures she's always taking pictures of the gains -- -- million dollar shoes and handbags and stuff like. Knows what he's get into. So she they're both pretty clear what their roles are in this relationships don't sit there and tell me. Boom. She's taking advantage of Donald sterling and ruining his reputation I think I did that on his own. However. I mean not very loving of this woman who was involved excuse me to release this thought her -- IMAX stuff trying to -- -- well there's no love what this is about. Weird Viagra sex with -- 81 year old guy in an -- ton of money in a couple cars you know suck it up until he -- the relationship gets stale in three years and you move on this article this is this is what happens when he when he -- drop from -- from the bank accounts and Shannon could be records and maybe he'll break -- auto dialing it back together. -- me ask you though. -- on theoretically yeah. Could you if a guy like that was worth one point nine billion dollar -- my dream -- could you. Could you -- contraction and could could you meet personally could you physically. I'm going to don't tell me go yeah let me personally I and I couldn't do or it. -- put -- don't you think I would have done that -- when he. -- anywhere any time. Only adds absolutely. Not doing. 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Hello florxHere's a definition; and here's an example using the Fibonacci sequence.
Having said that, I'm not sure what the answer is. I think you must assume that, initially, all of the mg dose is absorbed into the blood-stream. So .
If the number of years that has elapsed is , and the amount in the bank after the payment is made is $ :A bank account with a $75,000 initial deposit is used to make annual payments of $1000, starting one year after the initial $75,000 deposit. Interest is earned at 2% a year, compounded annually, and paid into the account right before the payment is made.
a) What is the balance in the account right after the 24th payment?
How would we find this out without actually calculating the problem 24 times. There must be a formula to this geometric problem.
I have tried the formula S_n = a(1-r^n)/1-r, with a = 75000m, r = 1.02, n = 26 but to no avail. The answer that it comes out to be is way to high to be reasonable. (Answer from the formula is 2.5 million)
What would be the correct formula to use in this problem to solve for the balance in the account right after the 24th payment? Thanks in advance.
Can you complete it now, by summing the geometric series? (I make the answer $90,210.93.)

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Ping says that she was furious that it took so long to find the cause of her daughter's illness. "With all the testing that was done, why wasn't there anyone who thought of running that test sooner?" she says. "It's like it was completely hit or miss."
Ping says that she was furious that it took so long to find the cause of her daughter's illness. "With all the testing that was done, why wasn't there anyone who thought of running that test sooner?" she says. "It's like it was completely hit or miss."
The Oliphints and Pings are advocates for the expanded newborn screening including the ASA screen and say they would like to see all states require it. In addition to giving gift certificates for expanded screenings to pregnant friends, the Oliphints maintain a Web site, which has received more than 3,000 hits in the past 12 months.
The expanded newborn screening checks for rare disorders, that effect one in 25,000 to one in 200,000 newborns. But, the required Texas screens test for more common disorders affecting one in 10,000 to 15,000, Hubbell says.
"But when the rare disorders are present, they are devastating," he says. "If it's your child, it doesn't seem so rare at all. So if the family is concerned or if there is a family history of any of these disorders, having the expanded screen done is a good idea."
It's important to note that the expanded screens don't pick up every disorder out there, Hubbell says. "You have to be on the lookout at all times with young children and watch for symptoms as they grow," he says.
Hubbell recommends a complete blood count, a blood culture and an antibody screen for newborns if there is a concern about infection. Such concern arises with babies born to mothers who had a fever during birth, moms with a prolonged rupture of the membranes for 12 hours or longer, and moms with a history of group b strep colonization in the vagina and an infection in the birth canal, he says.
"In addition, we will do a urinalysis of the baby for infection. If they are running a fever, we will also do a spinal tap to check their spinal fluid for bacteria as well," he says.
Babies who are born with dysmorphic features characteristic of Down syndrome and other genetic abnormalities are normally screened with a chromosomal analysis.
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"The bottom line is that it's very important to have a very good family history and get those pre-natal checkups so we can catch this stuff before it becomes a problem." he says.
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I plan to have a more in-depth assessment of this issue soon, but for now, take a look at comments from a few top 100 prospects.
I asked each of them a simple question: How much does conference affiliation matter to you when choosing a school?
*Reggie Cameron, 2013, committed to Georgetown: "On a scale of 1-10, about a seven." (Cameron, who had offers from B1G, ACC and Big East schools, added that coach and playing time are two more important factors).
*Jordan Bell, 2013, committed to Oregon: "None."
*Adonys Henriquez, 2014, uncommitted and entertaining offers from every major conference: "Scale of 1-10, it's a six."
*Lori Zimmerman, mother of 2015 top 10 prospect Stephen Zimmerman: "Not much."
*Terrence Samuel, 2013, committed to UConn: "Doesn't matter as long as I'm a Husky." (He's learning fast).
Recruiting is already an uphill battle for Kevin Ollie, whose one-year contract likely played a role in Brandon Austin's decision to attend Providence over UConn (though that has not been confirmed). This whole conference realignment dilemma is just another obstacle that Ollie must overcome while building for the future.


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Can you show us what you have tried?
(Hint for 1: The mean of each term occurs when the random residual term is 0 so look at Wage when Male = 1 and when Male = 0 separately).
Suppose that a researcher,using wage data on 250 randomly selected male workers and 280 female worker,estimates the simple modelWhere Wage ismeasured in dollars per hour and Male is a binary variable that is equal to 1if the person is a male and 0 if the person is a female. Define the wage gendergap as the difference in mean earnings between men and woman.Wage= 12.52 + 2.12Male (3)
i) Interpret theslope and the intercept in the model (3).
ii) What is theestimated gender gap?
iii) Write the(null) hypothesis testing for the gender gap.
ii) Anotherresearcher uses these same data but regresses Wages and Female, a variable thatis equal to 1 if the person is female and 0 if the person is a male. What isthe regression estimates calculated from this regression? Show your work.
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Yeah, Irina's really doesn't compare to either Denise's or Lucinda's.
Plush should either make his decent or just stop.
Yeah, Irina's really doesn't compare to either Denise's or Lucinda's.
Plush should either make his decent or just stop.
IMHO, Michelle is capable of adding the extra techical moves to her competitive programs so that they score higher in COP. She certainly can land a triple toe/
triple toe combination, and she lands her seven triples with speed, style, and assurance. Her spinning, however, could use some improvement. Michelle does not have the flexibility shown by Irina and/or Sasha and some of the other skaters who can perform Biellman spins and other moves that require extraordinary flexibility. On the other hand, Michelle performs nice spins with one raised leg over her head, which she controls with both of her hands.
Basically, Michelle has earned - justly so - so many titles and success on the old 6.0 system that she may find it difficult to change gears at this stage of her career. What's the adage - "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". She's not a 13-year-old any longer, but a soon to be 25-year-old who has over 10 years of senior level competitive experience. She may feel that it just isn't worth the time or the effort to change her programs, training, etc. Perhaps she isn't thinking of winning - or at least trying to win - Olympic gold next year. Perhaps she just wants to enjoy skating on her own terms. I'm not about to criticize her for thinking along those lines.
IMHO - and this is just my own opinion - if Michelle doesn't make any major changes to her programs for the 2005-2006 season, she'll probably qualify for the US Olympic team, but she probably won't medal at the Olympics.
As Joe wrote, it would be a shame if Michelle announced her retirement prior to the beginning of this season. If she did that, I would take it to mean that she simply doesn't want to change her approach to competitive skating.
Whatever Michelle decides to do, I wish her the best.
I think in order for Michelle to win a medal at the Olympics, all she has to do is stay on her feet.
And maybe not even that. At Worlds, she would have won bronze without the qualifying round, which of course doesn't exist at the Olympics, even though she fell in her long program. I think if Michelle does a clean long program with a 3-3, she will win gold. That's a big if. If other skaters falter, she could even win without the 3-3.Originally Posted by nicole_l
IMO, the 3x3 is a jolt to the judges to give higher GOE scores for other elements.
The Beilman spin, IMO puts the judges in awe regardless how sloppy it is presented.
I think that from all the reports of Michelle's skating in the COI shows, she is keeping up her jumps(3,2,2 and in some cases 2 flips and/or 2 lutz), variety of positions in her spins (change of edge) that will only help her if she decides to compete next season. This is the most jumps she has every done in an exhibition program that I can remember. This will keep her jumps in good shape. It will be interesting to see if what she decides to do next season.
Well if Michelle, Sasha, and Michelle all skate cleanly at the Olympics with a 3-3 it will be a very close decision, if Michelle has adapted herself to the new system exceptionaly like the other two already have. My guess though is Irina would win because she is the reigning World Champion and would get the benefit of doubt as is the norm for the reigning World Champion. The one exception was in 1980, but that was due to politics with overrid that typical advantage.
It's hard to guess whether the judges would give preference to the reigning world champion, everything else being equal. It was reported (surely tongue in cheek) that the Japanese strategy at Worlds was to lay low and let the other girls win all the medals, so they could sneak up on everybody at the Olympics.
In the past there was supposedly a gentlemen's (and ladies') agreement among the ISU's member federations that the judges would not place a country's number two skater ahead of its number one skater. Somehow or other, that would have showed disrespect to the federation in question -- or anyway, each federation wanted, tit for tat, to be able to rank their own skaters without being overruled by the other federations. In 2002, three of the four Irina judges honored this tacit understanding by placing Michelle ahead of Sarah.
In 1998 it wasn't so clear. Michelle had regained the U.S. National Championship, but Tara was still the World Champion. That was the contest where, according to Sonia Bianchetti, one of the Russian judges famously said, "Why didn't Frank Carroll just slip us a bottle of Vodka? What did we care which of the two Americans won?"
Mathman -- where did you hear about this "agreement"? I read somewhere that Irina said (or was reported as saying, which may be different) after Olys that she wouldn't have minded losing to Michelle as much as she minded lsong to Sarah; she was "used to it". I always thought this had something to do with it (the Eastern Bloc judges are thinking that they want gold for Irina, but if it has to go to an American, then let it be Michelle.)Originally Posted by Mathman
Irina did not win more major events between 2000 and 2002 because she did not do enough perfect long programs. Every World/Olympic title since Maria's 99 World title, and every one since Kwan's World title excluding the 98 post-Olympic Worlds has been won by a perfect final long program. Irina had very good performances, but always with 1 or 2 moderate mistakes, in the long programs of the 2000 Worlds, 2001 Worlds, and 2002 Olympics, that is why she did not win any of those titles. Personaly I think in the 2001 Worlds she made a big mistake, had she not tried to throw in jumps after landing her triple sal-triple loop-double jump combo she would have won that year IMO; she was stupid to start throwing in more jumps and messing up her overall performance, I dont know what she was thinking.
Irina skated next-to-last at 2001 Worlds, after Michelle. Michelle had a squeaky-clean performance and that probably rattled Irina enough that she missed on her 3Z3L and only did a double. She had another rough moment and must have felt that she needed more to win, so she started ad-libbing--unsuccessfully.
Irina lost on a 7-2 decision, but to this day she believes she was robbed.
Irina started her program so well 3/3/2 but when she went for the 3lutz/3loop, I knew kwan was going to win. That was a difficult 3/3 Irina was tryin to land and at that time, it was not successful for her. Had she stuck to her 3/3/2 and skate clean through out the program the title would've been hers.Originally Posted by chuckm
Hi, Attyfan. I don't remember exactly where I was reading about informal understandings among fedeartions and their judges -- probably in Christine Brennan's Edge of Glory, where the focus was mostly on Michelle and Tara.
Amnyway, I think the attitude attributed to Irina -- that it would have been more palatable to lose to Michelle than to Sarah -- seems quite understandable. Michelle was a multiple world champion whom Irina had faced many times, sometimes winning, sometimes not. Sarah was a gangly newcomer who up until Salt Lake City had won precisely one major contest at the senior level, 2001 Skate Canada. I can't blame Irina if she felt a little chagrinned that the judges did not rate a so-so Irina performance over a great Sarah performance.
On the other hand, I suppose we could call the result a victory for in-the-moment, judge-what-you-see judging, instead of the protocol judging that the sport is sometimes plagued with.
I have also wondered if the Salt Lake City experience brought Irina and Michelle any closer together personally. Sort of a "misery loves company" thing.
Well, in one interview, Irina said that she and Michelle consoled each other in the dressing room after SLC; Michelle "understood how she felt". After all this time, I would think that they understand each other fairly well. Is the Irina-Michelle rivalry the longest in skating history, do you know? If not, it should be running a close second.
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that didn't happen for chen lu. she was a world champ in 95 or 96(I think)had a perfect beatiful skate but receive zero benefit from that but this was in canada


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Demag Cranes reports successful financial year 2010/2011
Düsseldorf, 30. November 2011
- Guidance fully achieved for Group revenue and exceeded for operating EBIT
- Proposed dividend of EUR 0.78 per share
- Group order intake up 23.1 % on previous year
- Group revenue grows 14.1 % year on year
- Very substantial 39.7 % growth in Group operating EBIT compared with previous year
- Guidance for next financial years: further growth expected
The Demag Cranes Group brought financial year 2010/2011 to a successful close. Not least thanks to factors including the economic recovery, demand for products and services noticeably improved overall. Group order intake increased by 23.1 % compared with financial year 2009/2010 to EUR 1,121.2 million. At EUR 1,062.3 million, Group revenue was 14.1 % up on the prior-year level and slightly above the guidance of EUR 1,060 million. The Group's operating EBIT amounted to EUR 75.7 million, up 39.7 % on the prior year. The operating EBIT margin stood at 7.1 %,exceeding the guidance of approximately 6.4 %. Demag Cranes thus substantially improved on keyperformance indicators compared with the prior year and satisfied its forecast – last updated in its third quarter – in every respect, for Group revenue and even surpassing it in terms of operating EBIT. Based on the positive performance of the business in the past financial year, the Management Board and Supervisory Board have jointly decided to propose a dividend of EUR 0.78 per share for financial year 2010/2011 at the Annual General Meeting. This represents a 30% increase on the previous year.
Aloysius Rauen, CEO of Demag Cranes AG emphasises: "We rigorously implemented our growth strategy in financial year 2010/2011 and comfortably achieved our guidance. Demag Cranes is in an excellent position as a result to attain our ambitious revenue and earnings targets in the financial years ahead."
Group order intake up 23.1 % on previous year
The Demag Cranes Group generated order intake of EUR 1,121.2 million in financial year 2010/2011. This represents an increase of 23.1 % over financial year 2009/2010 (EUR 910.6 million). All segments contributed to the healthy trend in orders. The Group order book stood at EUR 361.7 million as at 30 September 2011, an improvement of 18.0 % from the figure on the previous year's reporting date (EUR 306.6 million).
In the Industrial Cranes segment, order intake was up sharply by 24.9 % to EUR 514.8 million in financial year 2010/2011. The prior-year figure was EUR 412.2 million. Both crane and components business rallied strongly as a result of the general economic recovery. The Industrial Cranes segment order book came to EUR 201.5 million as at 30 September 2011, compared with EUR 180.0 million at 30 September 2010.
The Port Technology segment can also look back on very positive order development: compared with financial year 2009/2010, the value of orders received rose by 35.7 % from EUR 197.0 million to EUR 267.3 million. Mobile Harbour Cranes, which can be used for various applications, accounted for the major part of order intake, but demand for port technology services also increased sharply again in the past financial year. For the first time since the financial and economic crisis, Demag Cranes received another order for 22 Automated Guided Vehicles (AGVs) from long-standing customer Europe Container Terminals (ECT) in Rotterdam. The Port Technology segment order book came to EUR 105.6 million as at 30 September 2011 (30 September 2010: EUR 76.9 million).
Greater capacity utilisation and the associated increased use of crane systems by customers also led to an improvement in the order situation in the Services segment. Compared with financial year 2009/2010, order intake was up 12.4 % from EUR 301.5 million to EUR 339.1 million. Alongside standard services such as fault elimination, maintenance and repairs, spare parts were in greater demand than in the prior year. The Services segment order book stood at EUR 54.6 million as at 30 September 2011, compared with EUR 49.6 million at 30 September 2010.
Group revenue grows 14.1 % year on year
Group revenue was up 14.1% in the past financial year to EUR 1,062.3 million (financial year 2009/2010: EUR 931.3 million). All segments contributed to this increase, especially the Port Technology segment.
The Industrial Cranes segment generated revenue of EUR 489.8 million, 11.1 % more than in financial year 2009/2010 (EUR 440.8 million). In particular, this figure reflected the healthy intake of orders for Process Cranes and Standard Cranes in the previous quarters, which are recognised as revenue after an average production time of six to twelve months. Component sales also contributed to this positive development.
The Port Technology segment saw revenue grow by 25.8 % to EUR 239.0 million. The main revenue drivers here were Mobile Harbour Cranes and services.
In financial year 2010/2011, the Services segment generated revenue of EUR 333.5 million, an increase of 10.9% over the prior-year figure (financial year 2009/2010: EUR 300.6 million). Spare parts business and general field service were principally responsible for this revenue growth.
Very substantial 39.7 % growth in Group operating EBIT compared with previous year
The Demag Cranes Group generated operating EBIT of EUR 75.7 million in financial year 2010/2011. This represents a substantial 39.7 % increase on the previous year (EUR 54.2 million).
In the Industrial Cranes segment, Demag Cranes more than doubled operating EBIT relative to the previous year. Mainly as a result of the year-on-year increase in revenue, operating EBIT of EUR 10.8 million was generated in financial year 2010/2011, up from EUR 4.8 million in financial year 2009/2010. The product mix contributed positively to this outcome. The operating EBIT margin was 2.2 %.
In the Port Technology segment, operating EBIT increased from EUR 0.6 million in financial year 2009/2010 to EUR 9.2 million in the period under review. The main factors here were significantly higher revenue and the significantly improved cost base as a result of restructuring combined with better production capacity utilisation at the Düsseldorf-Benrath factory. The operating EBIT margin in the Port Technology segment was 3.8 %.
Operating EBIT in the Services segment increased from EUR 58.3 million in financial year 2009/2010 to EUR 66.2 million. The increase was driven by spare parts business and also strong modernisation business in the fourth quarter of the financial year, as customers tend to carry out modernisation work during works holidays in the summer months. The operating EBIT margin was 19.8 %, once again in the target margin corridor of approximately 20 % for the segment.
Workforce increasing again with growth in business
As at 30 September 2011, the Group had 6,115 employees, 404 more than on 30 September 2010. This workforce increase mirrored the strategy of expanding activities in emerging markets. In Germany, the Demag Cranes Group had a workforce of 2,820 at the reporting date (30 September 2010: 2,734).
Demag Cranes AG majority owned by the Terex Group, USA, since August 2011
On 19 May, Terex Industrial Holding AG, a subsidiary of Terex Corporation, Westport, Connecticut, USA, submitted an offer for all outstanding shares in Demag Cranes AG. After extensive concessions from Terex, including a marked increase in the offer price from EUR 41.75 to EUR 45.50 per share, far-reaching autonomy for Demag Cranes as a separate operating segment within the Terex Group, a five-year guarantee to retain the German sites and a three-year guarantee not to impose any redundancies in direct connection with the takeover, the Management Board and Supervisory Board unanimously recommended shareholders to accept the improved offer. The tender offer consequently succeeded with an acceptance rate well in excess of the minimum of 50 %. At the end of the additional acceptance period, Terex attained a shareholding of 81.83 %. Negotiations are currently underway for the signing of a domination and profit transfer agreement. Demag Cranes expects that it will be able to bring the required negotiations to an end in January 2012 and for a resolution approving the domination and profit transfer agreement to be adopted at the Annual General Meeting of Demag Cranes AG on 24 February 2012.
Guidance for next financial years: further growth expected
The Demag Cranes Group pursues a clear and successful strategy, which is geared to sustained and profitable growth. Expectations about the future course of the global economy still carry some geopolitical uncertainty. The overall economic uncertainties, notably due to the debt crisis in Europe and the US, make it increasingly difficult to give reliable long-term projections for ongoing economic trends and the associated demand for our products.
The Management Board currently anticipates on-going revenue growth for the next two financial years. There are plans to generate Group revenue of approximately EUR 1.1 billion in financial year 2011/2012. For financial year 2011/2012, the Management Board projects an operating EBIT margin of roughly 9.5 %. By financial year 2012/2013, Group revenue is anticipated to be back up to around EUR 1.3 billion, thus exceeding the level achieved in the record financial year of 2007/2008 (EUR 1,225.8 million). In financial year 2014/2015, factors notably including the new product families for emerging markets, the recovery of the port technology business – aided by the expected award of a number of pending large-scale projects for port terminals – and further growth in the services business, primarily through greater penetration of the broad installed base, are set to add further momentum to revenue. Provided that the revenue projection is attained, the Group is expected to regain a Group operating EBIT margin of over 10% by as early as financial year 2012/2013.
About Demag Crane
The Demag Cranes Group is one of the world's leading suppliers of industrial cranes and crane components, harbour cranes and terminal automation technology. Services, in particular maintenance and refurbishment, are another key element of the Group's business activities. The Group is divided into the business segments Industrial Cranes, Port Technology and Services and has strong and well-established Demag and Gottwald brands. Demag Cranes sees its core competence in the development and construction of technically sophisticated cranes and hoists as well as automated transport and logistics systems in ports and terminals, the provision of services for these products and the manufacture of high-quality components.
As a global supplier, Demag Cranes manufactures in 16 countries on five continents and operates a worldwide sales and service network that is present in over 60 countries through its subsidiaries such as Demag Cranes & Components GmbH and Gottwald Port Technology GmbH, agencies and a joint venture. In financial year 2010/2011, the Group, with its 6,115 employees, generated revenue of EUR 1,062.3 million. Since August 2011, the Terex Group in the United States (www.terex.com) has held a majority share in the company.
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In our dojo, we practice back rolls. I agree with the many posts here: it's primarily a training exercise. I also agree (as others have already said) that experienced nages rarely give their ukes the opportunity to do a back roll.
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Rounds of applause sounded repeatedly in the Highland Town Hall, as the town council passed a six-month moratorium prohibiting high impact industrial uses such as those associated with natural gas development on April 12.
The move occurred during the town's monthly meeting, following a public hearing on the matter during which multiple letters of support for the moratorium were presented and public testimony, all of which supported the moratorium, was heard.
On March 15, the town board had also engaged the services of attorneys Helen and David Slottje on a pro bono basis to draft a zoning ordinance prohibiting high impact industrial uses.
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"We're not alone in these efforts," said Roig. "Towns all over New York are taking similar actions. We can't depend on state or federal regulators to do this, and we can't wait for the kind of dire consequences that would persuade them that this action is necessary." HCC is also hoping to inspire other towns to pursue similar initiatives.
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In October 1872, the first ship ever owned and managed for commercial purposes by women set sail from New York for Asia. The clipper ship, called the Madame Demorest, that proudly sported a carved image of Nell Demorest as its figurehead and a flag advertising "The Woman's Tea Company," was seen off by a crowd of curious well wishers including bankers, merchants, and the press. Ellen (Nell) Curtis Demorest and Susan A. King, who spearheaded the enterprise, had similar beginnings: they both grew up in small upstate towns where at a young age they were aspiring entrepreneurs and moved to New York City to start their own businesses—and both succeeded brilliantly.
Nell Curtis watched her maid cut a dress pattern out of a paper bag, developed the idea of selling dressmaking patterns and built it into an international empire of manufacturing, mail order, emporiums, and magazines. She and her husband, William Jenning Demorest, both proactive social reformers, used their magazines as a platform to advocate progressive issues as well as to promote their products. Author Matthew Hale Smith described the Demorests' liberal politics in his book Sunshine and Shadow in New York:
When philanthropy was not as popular as now, and when respectable and intelligent colored girls could not find employment in establishments called fashionable, Madame Demorest welcomed them to her Broadway rooms, gave them the same wages, and a seat in the same work-room that was assigned to others. At first, fashionable ladies flaunted out of the rooms, and announced that they would not patronize an establishment that employed negro girls. But they were glad to come back, as they could not get their work done elsewhere. (page 470.)
Susan A. King made her fortune buying and selling real estate. One of her major deals was selling land to Union Theological Seminary in New York, to which she also gave a financial gift. Once she had amassed her fortune, King also turned her attention to philanthropy.
Demorest and King were members of Sorosis, a social club for professional women that was devoted to aiding indigent females achieve financial independence through higher education and employment opportunities. They also founded The House of Mercy for Fallen Women, but they came to believe that instead of charities, it was more effective to offer poor women a chance to earn their own living.
Ever inventive, innovative, and indomitable, Demorest and King decided to set up a business to be run by women. In 1871, King set off on an eighteen-month trip to San Francisco to make business connections for the venture and sailed on to Asia to learn first hand how tea was grown and processed. King fearlessly traveled deep into China's countryside to deal directly with the farmers and select the choicest leaves in the best growing areas.
For their enterprise, Demorest and King settled on importing fine tea from the East that would be sold nationwide by women. Selling tea, which was a very popular beverage, seemed a "ladylike" commodity in which to deal, and they were convinced that they could obtain a higher quality tea if they dealt directly with the growers than what was presently imported from the East. The two raised a half a million dollars to back the enterprise, purchased an old clipper ship, fitted it to transport tea, renamed it "Madame Demorest" and hired an all female crew for the 1872 voyage that drew a large audience of well wishers.
The Woman's Tea Company did well enough to recoup all of its expenses, but it was not a lasting enterprise. It was no match for The Atlantic and Pacific Tea Company, a powerful operation that began importing tea in 1859 and by 1878 had seventy stores. One wonders what Demorest and King might have achieved if they put all of their formidable abilities and energy into managing the Woman's Tea Company themselves, instead of setting it up for others to run it.
Reading List
Drachman, Virginia G. Enterprising Women. 250 Years of American Business. Chapel Hill, N.C: University of North Carolina Press, 2002.
Leuzzi, Linda. A Matter of Style, Women in the Fashion Industry. Danbury, Ct.: Franklin Watts, 1996.
Ross, Ishbel. Crusades and Crinolines: The Life and Times of Ellen Curtis Demorest and William Jennings Demorest. New York: Harper & Row, 1963.
The book is replete with interesting information about the Demorests, their business and the estimable people with whom they interacted.
Smith, Matthew Hale. Sunshine and Shadow in New York. Hartford: J.B. Burr and Co., 1869.
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Wow, what an inspiring story! Nell and Susan must have worked so hard to accomplish all they did despite the prejudices of the times. I love thinking about that ship staffed with all women. I wonder what the journey was like?
Great profile on Ellen Curtis Demorest! Would you mind sharing with me the original source for the illustration of the Madame Demorest ship? I'm working on a project about her and would like to track down a citation for the illustration, if possible!
I really enjoyed your article on Demorest and King. I am researching history of the Women's Tea Company and wonder if there is any information on the women who worked for the company, as either board members, or in particular the women agents in China/Japan.


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Atlanta Falcons' Ovie Mughelli Was Just Outed By a Jilted Ex-Lover? Uh Oh
With everyone complaining about how there aren't very many out still-playing professional sports stars, will you settle for a NFL player forced out the closet against his own will?
That's what's happening to Atlanta Falcons fullback Ovie Mughelli, whose sexuality was supposedly unveiled on the website MissJia.com by someone claiming to be his ex-boyfriend. The report, originally posted as a blind item, was quickly followed up with the reveal, which includes photo evidence of their relationship, like pictures of Mughelli and a car rental receipt with his name on it. (Predictably, the rumors are not being addressed by the Falcons or Mughelli's publicist; questions are being directed to his attorneys.)
The same-sex romance supposedly began when Mughelli was a college student in 2001 and, heartbroken over breaking up with his girlfriend, called on his now tell-all former lover. Fast-forward a few years and Mughelli goes pro, and for "professional" reasons needed to end the relationship. About another two years pass, contact is reestablished (yes we are seriously summarizing here), and Mughelli arranges a meet with his sometimes-lover — only to have his attorney slide an envelope across the table, which is his to keep if he'll leave the NFLer alone. (He refused, and says he never opened the envelope.) "It wasn't until I got back home, got my thoughts together and tried to figure out why he would be so cruel to me and publicly degrade me. Oh, the beauty of the internet. Jackass. He just signed a deal with the Atlanta Falcons, totaling over $20 million dollars. That is why he tried to write me off. Because of money." Well, yeah.
So why come forward with this story now? "The reason I have decided to come out with this story is because I have given him more than enough time to right this wrong. To not treat me like a skeleton in his closet, but to speak to me, man to man about the situation, and why he turned our relationship into a would-be scandal. I am the one who told him my being his lover could ruin his career, and I kept our relationship between us because he was right, it wasn't anyone's business. He is the one doing this to his life, not me. He is the one living the extravagent life in Atlanta, posing in magazines as one of the most eligible bachelors, dating countless women, who can confirm as I know, he has hate issues with women. I'm sure any woman he has been with up until this point has only been with him for his money, but he doesn't care because it looks 'normal.' He promised he would take care of me, but only when he was a low-profile athlete. The minute he turned high-profile, he let the wrong people get in his ear, people whom he pay to protect his image, yet they made the mistake of ruining him by trying to hush me with money."
Ouch. That's some bitterness right there.
Thus far, Mughelli's self-professed ex-boyfriend hasn't identified himself, but he will supposedly appear in a video interview with MissJia.com to back up his statements. (UPDATE: The video is here, and the ex-lover reveals himself to be a one Francois Sloan.)
All in all, it's a shitty situation for all parties involved. Mughelli is outed against his will, and must now deal with the fallout, both professionally and personally. His ex-lover, clearly, remains furious over their parting of ways, and Mughelli's cutting him out of his life, and it's wholly unlikely the pair will ever reconcile after this.
We're just curious to see whether mainstream sports media will hop onto the story and follow the lead of the sports and gay blogs.
UPDATE: Blogs who reported the story from MissJia.com, including this one, have received cease-and-desist letters from Mughelli's counsel Phaedra Parks, who is attempting to remove any mention of this story from the web. What Ms. Parks does not realize is her client is a public figure, and no actual malice took place. We've reached out to Parks for comment and clarification; she has not responded.
Deadspin had something on this a couple days ago. I think Outsports is still holding their tongue.
he was covered in gold leaf?
Jilted Jilted Jilted ! LMAO
As for the story, I love it when this kind of hypocritical shit hits the fan. His best course of action is just to let it be. Neither confirm nor deny — and quietly back together with the ex. We've seen enough to know that no one is really going to care that much. BTW, how valuable a player is he?
I would have at least peeked into the envelope.
Yeeeeeahhhhh, he was so broken up about breaking up with his girlfriend that he slept with a man…give me a break. Being upset doesn't make you gay….being gay makes you gay.
One thing, though, if this gets confirmed, America will have another glaring example that we're not who they think we are. LOL
The story may be bogus, BUT it is telling that Ovie Mughelli has not responded publicly yet, though it has been out for days now. When asked to comment, the team and his publicist have deferred to his attorneys, who still haven't commented either. At this juncture, an official response would normally been made.
Good Im glad he got outed…
Interesting. Sounds like he's either going to come out or file a lawsuit. Hope it's the former, obviously.
And, yes, jilted. I'm beginning to think all the typos, spelling mistakes and terrible grammar here are deliberate – nobody could be that illiterate. Either that or there's a six year old running the site now.
Romeo makes a good point – we don't all fit the "stereotype"
I think the alleged "ex" is a jerk for even going public with this, Ovie has every right to keep his sexuality private (straight or gay) and no one else should try to force another to go public.
Yes, it could be helpful in the long run for the "gay agenda" but I am not sure the other athletes are ready to be accepting unfortunately. We'll see.
Damn he is sexy. Really wow. I would let him tackle me and grab my ball(s) anytime.
if this story is true, the "down-low" idiots need to take note. if you are going to fool around with someone and their heart, you better end the relationship in a civil manner or you might be calling for a lawyer.
@No. 12 · olv2234 black people are the only ones with gay issues? very dumb statement.
No. 11 · Bo said…
I think the alleged "ex" is a jerk for even going public with this, Ovie has every right to keep his sexuality private (straight or gay) and no one else should try to force another to go public.
Straight people don't keep their sexuality public. People on the whole are assumed to be straight unless they speak up.
Last post public should be private
For the team nor the player to have responded yet to this "scandal" shows just how "concerned" about it they really are. It has all the sounds of a queen who demanded more money than they were being offered and is now trying to ruin this guys life because he now knows he will get nothing.
If he really "loved" the guy why is he babbling to everyone that will listen. Does this sound like a "concerned" lover to you? Not to me.
@OBSERVER: If you read the full account at the MissJia site you'll get a better sense of what happened. I don't think he's pretending to do it out of concern. This is definitely payback time for the "ex" – he's doing this to get even for having been treated badly. The two had a years-long off-and-on relationship, then the football player tried to give him "hush money" to go away and never contact him again. I'd be pissed, too. However, I would've taken the money. But that's just me :)
Thought I'd better jump in here before Terrwill for the renaming ceremony, how 'bout Olivia Mughelli, the gilded gridiron queen of Atlanta? Hard to believe the Queerty editor's spell check didn't ask, did you mean "guilted," as in responsible for a mistake or error.
This is something a woman would do (just an observation). It always irks me when gay men do this stuff. I don't support the lover at all, he clearly is a gold digger. Now that he didn't get his way he is trying to bring down Mughelli. Shame on him.
No. 20 · soul_erosion: The ceremony WAS scheduled for 6pm! : P
It is not something just women do. Anyone who is willing to be vindictive fits the bill.
I want to know why Queert has yet to post the story about the latest culinary dish being served in that wonderful land of dirt, uganda………its called "The Children of Uganda"…….
just google "ugandans eating their children"………
@ olv2234: Blacks down "own" trouble with gay issues, honey. Just talk to Ted Haggard.
@ salty73: Why do people never use the term "down-low" when famous white closeted men who have dated or married women are outed. Just asking…
I knew this post would turn into a racial debacle. And there I go taking the bait.
"Down" should be "don't" in that last post.
"I knew this post would turn into a racial debacle. And there I go taking the bait."
It's ok. Some white racist gays just can't help themselves.
"Just talk to Ted Haggard."
Or Larry Craig or Lindsey Graham or Matt Drudge or Mitch McConnell or Patrick Henry or Charlie Crist
um, folks–"gilded" means painted in gold. Queerty was using alliteration, suggesting Mughelli is a much-beloved sports player. He wasnt the one who was "jilted" so that wouldn't be the right word. And "guilted" isnt an adjective.
Most revealing sentence: "He promised he would take care of me…" The kid's motivations are suspect.
Asa1973 sez: Why do people never use the term "down-low" when famous white closeted men who have dated or married women are outed.
Because the term originated in the African American community and has not migrated linguistically beyond that community as of yet.
Dizzy Spins sez: um, folks–"gilded" means painted in gold. Queerty was using alliteration, suggesting Mughelli is a much-beloved sports player. He wasnt the one who was "jilted" so that wouldn't be the right word. And "guilted" isnt an adjective.
Sorry, no. First, what was "gilted" supposed to be alliterative with? Alliteration is a repeated phoneme and "Mughelli" is not pronounced with either a "g" or a "j" sound. Second, the headline means that the player was outed by someone whom he, the player, supposedly jilted. Third, given that we are talking about Queerty here, Occam's Razor, which dictates that the simplest answer is generally the right one, tells us that this was just one more example of Queerty's legendary poor proofreading/editing skills.
How sad.
I'm confused. Where is the proof that he is gay besides the ex boyfriends's statement? Pics of a guy standing in boxer briefs don't mean a guy is gay. Where are the photos proving he is gay?
@FakeName: It did originate in the AA community, but it definitely has been appropriated by other communities. It's just interesting to me how people immediately use the term "down low" (and put it in quotes) when speaking about a closeted black person, and simply use the word "closeted" (sans quotes) when speaking about non-black closet cases.
It's like saying Denzel Washington invited a group of his "homies" to "grub" with him, while saying Brad Pitt threw a dinner party for his friends.
can't we just take this post as a morning good and not a "failfest", he is attractive
i hate nasty a ex, i have seen a friend HURT by that kinda shit
How could he be stupid enough to end the relationship bitterly? Somebody like that, you keep 'em close, maybe throw him the dick every once in a while. You can't discard a lover and not expect any blowback if you're a famous person on the DL. Either have them killed or remain distant friends as a means of self preservation.
"Most revealing sentence: "He promised he would take care of me…" The kid's motivations are suspect."
Yeah, that goes to his motivation for telling the story, but really doesn't undermine the veracity of the story. If anything, it may bolster it, since it shows that some type of close, intimate relationship existed between such that the ex-friend was so emotionally connected that he now feels jilted by Ovie. It might not prove that there was a romantic or sexual relationship, but there was something going on between these two.
Another self-absorbed, narcissistic athlete with tons of money who parades himself one way and then loves to suck cock. Good for the ex lover. Tired of these phonies and hypocrites. Let his career suffer. Maybe when his pocket hurts he will embrace who he is proudly. Now, will Oprah call?
Does not sound like either the NFL player or his ex are nice guys.
The mainstream (Corporate Media) is not in the business of 'Outing' celebrities as there are many more huge names to contend with before a Sports star that few recognize is 'Outed' by an unhinged bitter Ex. How about normalizing bisexuality which is termed "Gay" by homophobes and the more gossipy gays who's own lives seem empty and vacuous like Queerty's bloggers.
I agree with Cobly. Not sure where the proof is that this guy is gay. How do a couple of photos in your underwear and tickets say a guy is gay? Plenty of straight guys have pics in their underwear taken by girlfriends and why can't a straight guy give tickets to a gay guy? I don't understand why people are quickly to say the guy is gay with little to no proof other than an "ex's" statement.
he's in his underwear and this makes him gay???…
sounds like a stalker to me….that doesn't help gays at all…
@ no. 37 Michael W. –
"Either have them killed or…"
— Dude?! WTF?! An attempt at humor is one thing, but this statement is a huge fail in my book. Some things, in this crazy world, are never funny.
Now, I don't advocate outing.
However, when one deceives, they do deserve what they get. How many jilted lovers do messy shit for revenge? C'mon, we've all been there. Passion and pain have made us all do some crazy stuff. This is no different.
I don't want to throw all the DL athletes out of the closet, but with all that going on in the world and on the civil rights front of gay people in America, the battle to be treated equality under the law, DL men who —
A) lie and deceive women about their true nature,
B) could give two shits about the struggle for equality that the rest of us on the front lines deal with daily, yet they'll ultimately reap the benefits of
— do not deserve anyone's tears when their deceit is exposed, however messily on the internet.
Having said that, I still don't advocate outing. But I'm glad (thrilled even) that some of our seedier brethren do. lol
@taylor "Passion and pain have made us all do some crazy stuff. This is no different." glad you called it what it is CRAZY as in NOT SANE
I think this is healthy but I think what's more important is how the NFL and the mainstream media react to the outing of a bisexual man. Let's follow this closely – we have a lot to gain from a mature and accepting approach to Mughelli.
Let's not allow the gay Nazis to polarize Mughelli into the "gay" category. If he's oriented to both men and women, as appears to be the case, then he's bisexual. As I said, let's not allow the gay Nazis to push Mughelli into the gay category for their own selfish political needs.
By all means, let's celebrate and discuss this. But I'll be damned if I'm going to allow narrow-minded gay Nazis to control this conversation.
No Proof Crowd
I hate the smoking guns type of posts.
Most of life is not about 100 percent proof. There is circumstantial evidence. What you mean is not that there is no proof. What you mean is you don't have photos of him in bed fucking or being fucked by a guy. In most instances you are not going to receive that in life. So believe the circumstantial evidence or don't, but don't say there is no proof.
Jilted ex, gilded NFL star, and guilty all around!
Truth(s) in point:
—We'd be safer saying the player is likely bisexual than gay. Fair enough.
—We have no proof yet (publicly) that the two were an "item." The silence on the part of the team/NFL/agent/player/lawyers is interesting, sure, but only time will tell.
—The jilted one didn't know what was in the envelope, so he says, so we can't assume it was money. (But, what else could it have been?
—"On the DL," here in Chicago, is used by non-African Americans to refer Men who have Sex with Men, but it does seem to refer mostly to Black men. I definitely have heard it spoken to refer to non-Black men, but not that often at all. (Remember though that I talk about sex a lot at work!)
—Outing a lover is a pretty lousy way to trying to reconcile.
—Famous people DO sometimes have their lovers sign attorney-approved confidentialty forms in the entertainment industry; why not the sports world? Yes, I have seen one, and no I wasn't the one who signed it.
I'm waiting for such a scandal to hit the Hockey world now! Or swimming!
@Taylor S.
Yeah, I agree with you, you don't SAY that but I think Michael W. is kinda right about that.
Of course, you can also supply nice fat healthy bank deposits on a biweekly or a monthly basis to said ex-lover. Honey chile shoulda took those coins, fuck the principle of the thing…
ovie is a text book example of the condition known as "gay face". fortunately, it is incurable…
welcome to our club mr. mughelli. now we get to watch you deny, deny, deny until the media get bored and move on….fun!
They all sound like a rotten bunch…
The story over on the other website reads like a crock of shit if ever a crock of shit existed. This vindictive queen is trying to ruin his career with nothing but pictures based on a man standing in his underwear.
I don't give a damn if he had an erection and the queen was in the picture without video proof you are nothing but a whining ass queen with a VERY hard to believe story.
The queen was the one who told him to break off the affair. Ok, so you did. Now if that is true why shoud be give a shit about what happened next?
Let us hope we don't next read about him catching up with this queen and beating her ass for her.
No. 28 · Same Crap wrote "'Just talk to Ted Haggard.' Or Larry Craig or …" Larry Craig is not gay and here's the video proving it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys9xn60IBXA !
If this story is true, Ovie Mughelli would be a tortured soul right now. The NFL and the NBA are sort of like being in the army with a DADT policy, you won't be fired but you will surely be ostracized in the locker room.
This will be what we can call a "teachable moment" for our country.
it makes you wonder about sports how many of them are gay in how many are not
I think that this guy is just looking to extort money out of him; if you really love someone you would let them go not put their life at risk. If he is gay, I have no problem with him staying in the closet: countless people have stayed in the closet while pursuing their carriers including outed politician Barney Frank. This guy has been working his whole life to get to the NFL, why would he ruin all of that to come out of the closet. It is easy for someone to point the finger, but how many people would come out leaving the hard work, career, family, and 20 million on the table. People fail to realize that the NFL is a very dangerous job, careers are short and some players suffer extremely debilitating injuries. The are lots of stories about retired players in their late twenties that will be bedridden for life with spinal and brain injuries; nearly going bankrupt from excessive medical bills. Now put a player out on the field with the gay target on his head, what do you think is going to happen to him? It is naive to think he going to be ostracized in the locker room, he going to be paralyzed or killed on the field. All it takes is one person, but assuming that bigotry exists in the NFL at the same levels as it does in society this guy is in serious trouble. An average player can deliver over 3/4 tons of force (>1500 lbs, the weight of a ford F-250 truck) to an object " http://www.popularmechanics.com/outdoors/sports/4212171.html " a planed blow to the neck could be life ending no mater how much protection one has on. Taking into account what the "Family" wants to do in Uganda someone will carryout out the act. Some people value life more than those that believe that they will have a 1000 virgins waiting for them in heaven after becoming a martyr for the gay community. If it is true, this guy is one of us and I definitely don't want to see someone give up their career or get seriously injured just because they are gay.
There is no requirement that one be a doormat for love.
Hmm… I don't see any other guys in those pictures. I may be cynical, but for some reason I get the feeling that this "jilted ex-lover" is actually an ex-girlfriend who wanted revenge and decided to play the gay angle for extra humiliation. That or the ex-boyfriend is afraid to show his face while outing this football player, which is more than a little hypocritical.
No. 51 · Chitown Kev — Yes, he shoulda took the money. But I have a funny feeling there was no money, or it wasn't enough. God don't like ugly – or cheapies. lol
No. 60 · Sam — Allegedly, the guy is gonna show his face in an interview with Miss Jia. We shall see.
Just remember, each of us in any career could be ruined by an ex with a grudge if we remain in the closet. Whether its a football player or whatever, it shouldn't be supported or diseminated. Maybe this guy was just a trick or a guy willing to be used (and loving it) and there was never a relationship as far as the football player was concerned. Its extortion either way.
Well, the Miss Jia post is still up, despite the wagon-train of lawyers and publicists actively circling. I'm smelling the scent of truth here. Now, the wait for the video reveal of the accuser she's promised. Hmmmm….
Atlanta Falcons' Ovie Mughelli Was Just Outed By a Jilted Ex-Lover. Uh Oh
I could not agree more with the last part about Uh, Oh. If I were Ovie, a baseball bat and her ass would have a date where I would be wielding the chaperon with full force. I hope he stomps her whining as so far in the ground she don't come up till spring.
Damn gay violence, there is no way I would let a mixed up (possibly confused church queen) fuck up $20 million dollars for me and get away with it.
No. 64 · Gurlene
Of course, a beat down is never the answer – that's jumpin' out of the messy pan into the ghetto fire. He shoulda kept her quiet by making sure she could afford to keep throwin' on her Louboutins.
Are these the only pics? I don't see anything gay. Where's the "evidence"?
How was the ex publickly humilated? He's the one who made this alleged mess known. Sounds like he wanted to ride the gravy train that comes with a nfl player, bitch just made because he couldn't lock it down with a baby.
Taylor there is just where the problem is. He DID try to keep her quiet and according to her (which I do not believe) she didn't accept the money. Let 20/20 or the Today show step in for interviews and Hollywood start calling and see if her ass will still feel that way. I doubt it. Jesus will be placed on the sidelines until the money is gone and the phone stops ringing.
If her story is true (which I doubt fiercely) then the only other conclusion I come to is "she" must be a mixed up church queen (Church of God in Christ a strong candidate). This reminds me of that b/s that happened to that actor who stars in Tyler Perry movies who undoubtedly told that projects hustler he was treating to first class travel, hotels/limos and fine restaurants it was over and he schemed to get "evidence" of his (Terrell Carter I think his name was) being gay. So much for love, huh?
Could be an ex girlfriend….they always accuse guys of being gay…Right Miley Cyrus….
Why hasn't the gay community seriously questioned the NFL on its don't ask, don't tell policy regarding male sexuality within the NFL? The gay community has been very negligent in this regard. We should be breathing down their necks.
to asa1973: when i wrote down-low, i mean all of the men and women who are scared and/or duplicitous enough to have a year long relationship with someone and attempt to pay them to be quiet. you can be white, green or pink to be down-low. all you need are low self-esteem and no morals. the truth shall seen sooner or later. the ex is giving interviews soon.
Sounds to me like this "ex" is nothing but a publicity hound… He saw how much attention Tiger's women got and he thought, "Hey, why not me. By the time anyone proves anything one way or another, I'll already have signed a book deal and gotten onto a reality show."
Honestly, whether it is true or not, I feel VERY sorry for Ovie. I met him once at a dinner where he was the guest speaker — promoting the NFL Play60 program that works to get playgrounds into schools that can't afford them. He was VERY well-spoken and seem VERY sincere.
I've also met with his Foundation Director. His non-profit Foundation was founded to help deserving children. And his Summer Camp is an amazing program for children — he got many of his fellow atheletes to help teach the children about football and also life skills. The Camp also had a focus on 'green' issues, teaching the children about ecology and the environment.
Now, because of one mud-slinging, self-centered 'queen' with an attitude and a desire for her 15-minutes-of-fame — so many others will be hurt. Can you imagine the damage that will be done to Ovie's Foundation and the incredible work it has been doing?
No matter how "accepting" people are (and, here in the South, most are NOT accepting at all)… very few people will support any children's program that is run by a single men who has been "tainted" as being gay. (The conservative right has done a pretty good job of confusing themselves into believing that "gay" and "pedophile" are one-in-the-same.)
Professional atheletes have the opportunity to do great things — thanks to the money they earn, and the fame they garner. And many of them do wonderful things to make the world a little bit better for others. Would it be a "wonderful thing" if a professional athelete/role model made the decision to come OUT PROUD? YES!!! Is that a decision that any of us can make for another person? NO!!!
Ovie's private life is just that — PRIVATE!!! And his public life is…well…PRAISEWORTHY!!!
It shouldn't matter if a person is gay or straight, out or closeted, liberal or conservative, black or white, etc. etc. — what should matter is whether that person is a GOOD person. And, from what I've seen, Ovie is a GREAT person! We should all stive to be more like him.
Maybe its just me but i don't think that the outing is the main focus in this situation. It is the means of payback but i'd say thats just the weapon that could be used in this situation.
Just going by what was say in the article, someone tried to payoff someone elses silence (could have been cash could have been an NDA in the envelop its irrelivant). What peeves me off the most is when someone decides that they don't want to be accountable for their own actions and that they have so little trust the people around them that they want to payoff their silence.
I don't believe in outing people but damn anyone who thinks they can throw money at undesirable things to make them dissapear gets what they deserve tenfold.
"Why hasn't the gay community seriously questioned the NFL on its don't ask, don't tell policy regarding male sexuality within the NFL?"
Because there is no policy, unlike the military that requires football players to be closeted. Instead, it is the aggregate culture of the people who play the sport and the sports' fans that keep people closeted. In 21 states, NFL employees are protected form discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, so football players in that state legally would have recourse from discrimination. The issue is with the culture of the sport, not the policies.
"I knew this post would turn into a racial debacle. And there I go taking the bait."
It's ok. Some white racist gays just can't help themselves."
pretty much sums up my thoughts on the previous comments. i don't mean to get off topic but i'll never understand how SOME gays can be so rude when it comes to racial topics, not just blacks but every minority. it's just stupid.
anyways i hope this story if false and just a rumor. any sort of outing is plain wrong.
Lmmfao. I don't think I believe this story… if he felt as jilted as he claims he did he would have posted these pix that I don't believe exist because if he was that far in the closet there would be no pix…if that made sense. Maybe he was close friends with a gay guy and decided it was in his best interest to distance himself? Some of you fools are funny! Ruining his career is supposed to make him embrace homosexuality? Explain that to me.
Miss Jia has revealed the identity of the accuser! This is all looking completely legit.
Normally I wouldn't be celebrating the forced outing of an athlete, but from what this guy is saying, Ovie's a real dick.
Listen up everybody black or white it doesn't matter what color he is the only thing that should matter is if the story is true or not, and honestly it's probably true as much as I love football it seems kind of gay to wear tights slapp each other on the butts and take showers together if that's not a recipe for gay then I don't know what is.
Before this pathetic story came out Ovie was a black man and that's how a majority of the world saw him. Now the world can see Ovie as a gay man which has no color,because when someone is labeled gay that's all you see when you look at them, you don't see white,brown,or black you just see gay,so you guys should honestly throw that black and white shit out the window because it doesn't exist. When Ovie walks into a room most people are going to think in their heads there's that gay football player their not going to think there's that black football player. Your either gay or not so if you have to pick a color for Ovie I suggest all the colors of the rainbow ,and by the way let's pray that Ovie hasn't fucked a fellow teammate yet like his tight-end.
On one hand, there is Anderson Cooper, who is obviously gay, but never speaks about his private life nor pretends that he is str8. Then you have people like Ovie (if this allegations are proven true), who try to create a str8 image to promote their career. For them, I have no sympathy at being outed.
Ovie will have nothing to worry about, the mainstream media doesn't follow stories like these unless their is absolute proof like a picture of him with his dick down some guy's mouth…and the gay media won't care because Ovie is not a white man that most white gay men will fantasize about being with…so his career should be safe.
It's not the black or the white of it…
A $20 million contract and he ain't bad looking. Oh, he'll get attention no matter what his color is…or what color the attention payer is…
If true, Ovie is most likely bisexual not gay.
@ No. 83 · Javier
– And what's your rationale for that?
@ no 82 CHITOWN KEV
– I agree, he'll get attention no matter what color he is. But as for the gay blogs, an anti-gay, holier-than-thou Irish Cougar cheating on her husband with a boy trumps this story big time. lol
How can you people be so cruel!!! Ruining someone for no reason. Just to get back at someone. I know that if I was the jilted lover I would never do something like that. I can say that cuz I've been the jilted lover a few time now. But, people are so into getting their 15 min of fame that they don't care if they hurt someone alone the way. What have we come too?
@57 – 2%, just like the whole population. They are a subset with a statistically significant number of members (> 1200).
To the cynics saying it's not true. Perhaps. But if the ex is smart and playing this like poker, he wouldn't be dumb enough to turn over all his cards yet. Could get interesting.
@Taylor. Because he dates and has been romantically involved with multiple women.
This vile reaction to an alleged gay professional athlete probably means gay professional athletes will go deeper into the closet and not come out until their careers are at an end, and maybe not even then.
@Candyman. On http://www.MissJia.com there is now a video posting featuring the accuser. This person is clearly DISTURBED. I mean to the point she, the accuser, sounds more like a FATAL ATTRACTION than a scorned lover. She looks the type you simply KNOW something is wrong with her before she opens her mouth. What the hell was Ovie thinking when he hooked up with this I'll never know?
I am not really into men who are closeted but this is one case where I see the accuser was the type who can not accept something is OVER and place the blame on her. As in case closed. Discussion over.
Ovie was nice enough to offer this queen money to live off of. She could have started a business where she could have employed gay men or just put the money in the bank. But oh no, not her. Not Ms. Drama. I would not be surprised, since it has been two years, her motive is pure financial. Many of those out there in the unemployment line and working part-time at $8 per hour jobs with $1000 per month after tax dollars to come up just to pay rent know how tough it is. Who's to say her situation is not now the same?
I hope this blows over today or by Wednesday and this girl had the good sense to buy the Sunday paper for the classified section (jobs). Girl has had her 3 seconds of fame and needs to get on with her life. How many of us out there still kick our selves now for not buy stock in Google when it sold for $70 per share and since then has sold as high as $800? You think she ain't thinking the same way?? Hindsight makes people do desperate things like this.
No. 48 · jason said…
Let's not allow the gay Nazis to polarize Mughelli into the "gay" category. If he's oriented to both men and women, as appears to be the case, then he's bisexual. As I said, let's not allow the gay Nazis to push Mughelli into the gay category for their own selfish political needs.
I find it interesting that the community is supposed to take the word of every closeted celeb, preacher etc… when they say that they really love women, just slipped up once etc… Until the bisexual community admits that claiming to be bi or claiming to have a girlfriend but being "Curious", is a baby step out of the clset for a huge percentage of gay men, they will continue to sound silly on these posts.
Gee, this guy claims to date women….well he WOULD wouldn't he? That would be a great way to defend against this kind of publicity. If he was TRULY attracted to women, why mess up his career prospects by continuing to see the guy etc…. But no, instead of just relaxing, the typical angry bi's come on here, freak out and start calling the gays "Nazi's". Nice hyperbole fools.
@ No. 90 · Cam –
I agree. I bristled at the "gay nazi" term as well but ignored it. And how many times do you have to say it in one post? It screams of someone saddled with issues over their own identity, lashing out of those who are quite comfortable with who they are.
As far as closeted/DL guys claiming to like women … LMAO. You nailed it!
For those of you who want gay Nazi check this out:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu2NqfISm9k
It is time for a little humor to move away from the senseless allegations of this lost (and dumped) queen.
Closeted NFL player messily exposed as gay – $$ 20 million? $$
Angry, vindictive jilted lover exposing NFL player — ($$ appearances fees minus unknown possible medical expenses $$)
Mel Brooks dressed as Hitler rapping & break-dancing — $$ Priceless $$
Thanks GURLENE ;-)
Love how the make a Star of David formation at 4:19….gotta love Mel Brooks!
Hate that someone could get outed without their own will, but I also hate that no gay, active NFL player has come out.
Outsports is waiting for the stories to be confirmed, which is fair, in the event that the stories are false.
Unless it is a publicity stunt by the website, I couldn't see any other incentive for the ex, assuming the person is who they say they are (could have made money by revealing on a more accredited / gossip website).
For my own shameless plug now, I write a blog on gay rights and the sports industry. widerights.com
@Pete—Good webisite. Was "tightends.com" already taken? Just kidding.
Am still waiting for a still-active pro-golfer, tennis guy, hockey player or olympic swimmer to come out — without being outed, preferably.
Theirs never an excuse for an adult to out another adult, unless your in court under oath!
could be another player looking for his position to get the fat contract he is enjoying…you know…
The sad thing is OVIE ISN'T GAY and that makes this wrong on so many levels. This revenge scheme is using gay sites to hurt this guy's career and everyone is playing into it just because he's BIG and BLACK and a CELEB.
This is just bad bad taste. Leave the freaking guy alone. If he wants to date women, that's his biz. If he wants to be on the DL, it's his biz. It would be one thing if he were playing the Ted Haggard game and making anti-gay comments, but he's not.
This is just really childish shite, and all it does is make the gay community look bad. Are we still that HS that we need to talk about people this way?
What kind of message does this send to guys who are questioning? If I were still in that place, I would probably think twice about exploring for fear that some jilted fag might pop up later and make a mess of my life. So sad. I really thought the gay community was moving past this.
@ No. 99 · Yuck
Oh, puhleeeeeze! Give me a break. Yes, we the gay community have nothing better to do than gossip about which hunky athlete likes boys. Yes, that's all we do, all day long – well, between shopping for high end fashion, redecorating our straight friends and families hopelessly tacky houses, and determining life altering matters like whether its time to bring back polka-dots.
I swear, if there's not a person adding their two cents that they're 100% sure Ovie's not gay [No. 98 · BillG], then there are these little rants about how the gay community needs to "get past" something or other.
It's gossip. And it always has been and always will be HUGE business.
So Puh-leez. Save it. Get off that pedestal before you fall and hurt yourself. It's quite unstable you know.
This whole thing is NOT GOOD. For one,Everyone is thinking that this guy is actually telling the truth. What if he isn't? Thats possible, ya know. No one cares about a retraction or the truth for that matter. There was another story about an NBA player with the same type of story and he just ignored it and it really just went away. But the day it broke, everyone just assumed it was true. But the story turned out to be false.
If the story is true, What is the guy after. If he doesn't want to be reimbursed for money he spent, then what does he want? Clearly this guy doesn't want to be with him anymore for whatever reason. People break up everyday. I'm just saying even if it's true, what does he want?
I'm not gay and I have nothing against someone who is gay. If he is gay and he was outed, I don't think he deserves this. It's no ones business but who he sleeps with. If he's sleeping with women and leading them on, thats wrong. But it would be wrong if he was sleeping with other women as well. Infidelity is just wrong. Nowadays people are just obsessed with who's gay and who's not. I think it's because so many more people have homosexul thoughts that they aren't willing to deal with. Just my humble opinon. :). But really why would you care if someone else is sleeping with someone of the same sex. But it is interesting blogging so I get it. But let's all remember we are dealing with someone's personal life and this may all be just some silly Queen bein messy(not all gays or even this one are silly queens, but some do act like it).My personal beef is that I hate negativity in the media. Its this new instant information that we get thats unverified without thinking of who we are hurting… family, friends, co-workers. I'm not saying he's right or wrong for being DL(IF, this is true). Just saying people break up everyday. What does this kat want? and why this?? He is 35 years old. Come on. He's acting 15. Grown ups have a responsibility to realize their actions have consequences. Clealy he's self motivated and immature.
Damn. I lived across the hall from this dude my freshman year of college. He used to check me out walking to the showers but I never tried anything cause dude was jacked and I wasn't out. Should have gotten some play when I had the chance
So sick of these tired lil queens who want to ruin peoples lives and careers cuz they think its the thing to do. His little connivin a$$ prolly couldn't wait for something to go wrong so he could get his 15 minutes. If this is true at all I wouldn't be surprised if Ovie dumped his behind just cause he was sick of the bull. Cuz if dude was worth it, he woulda found a way to continue the relationship. Dude is just mad he got dumped and now he wanna be famous.
Now if Ovie gets death threats or his job is in jeopardy over rumors he should sue the hell outta that joke for libel. I know he wishin he never wasted his time with that trash. IT'S A RELATIONSHIP, THEY DON'T ALWAYS WORK OUT! Grow up, have some integrity and dignity, and move around.
And that's if it's even true.
Everything is all good until you get dumped and then you all of a sudden want to "tell the world". You were a jump off and should have stayed in a jump offs place! This man doesn't owe you a damn thing. get a life and move on. You sound bitter and vengeful by tying to ruin this mans career. And how many athletes go around yelling "I'm Straight!"