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- said...
This is too funny. Does art imitates life or life imitates art? Junker is a bit like Franz Liebkind from the play "The Producers". "Not many people know it, but the Fuhrer was a terrific dancer."
The truth is that more Germans starved, suffered and were displaced by Nazi actions than were helped by them. Compound that with the suffering inflicted on the rest of the world and I can tell you Hitler doesn't need something to remind us of his existence.
"If the German people should collapse beneath its present burden, I would shed no tears for it - it would deserve its fate.."
Adolf Hitler
November 8, 1943
I wouldn't be shedding any tears for him either.
- Dan Plutchak, editor said...
Editor's note: The online version of Sunday's story will be posted by 5 p.m. today.
- said...
Thanks for posting the article. I am blown away by this and feel the need to post a different perspective. My father was born in 1917 in Russia and raised in Lithuania and Latvia as an ethnic German. He recalled newspaper articles-particularly at Easter- that depicted Jews as killing Christian babies. Anti-Semitism was part of the culture all over the world at that time. In some places, it was more ridiculous than in others. My father was what is called a Baltic German. His father was from a place once under German rule called Courland-now Latvia. My Dad spoke Lithuanian, Latvian, Russian and German. His father felt it was important that he be able to survive no matter who had power. His family's first language was German and they identified themselves as ethnic German.
When my father went to East Prussia as a young man, to try to find work, he met my mother, fell in love and became a German citizen in 1939. That marriage did not really get going for 7 years because of that pesky war and it's aftermath. I have the papers that required him to prove his Aryanism, a standard form that proudly displays a swastika. In order to work in East Prussia he needed to prove that he was indeed Arian for at least 4 generations. The important blank to fill was the one asking about religion.
My father served in the Luftwaffe. He did not join and was never a member of the Nazi party. He would tell us that the guys he served with were great guys. My mother said that all the boys in her graduating class were killed in the war. Both of them said that the war was crazy. My Dad said that Hitler did good things for Germany early on, and my mother cynically would add that preparing for war is always good for the economy. Their feeling about that time did not include pride. They both had posttraumatic stress because of what they survived and later being displaced. My mother was constantly preparing for "bad times' and they were always expecting the rug to be pulled out from under us. My father often expressed guilt about surviving when so many people did not, my mother worried that we may have to go through the same things.
Neither of them witnessed the trains or camps, but they did notice the closing of Jewish businesses, Krystallnacht, of the odd disappearance of Jewish entertainers they once enjoyed seeing. After the war they were surprised to learn of the existence of Freud, and Einstein and other Jewish artists and writers. One of their friends at that time was a magician named Erwin Frankel. He went by the name of Frankoni. He was married to a Gentile German woman and toward the end of the war, they received half rations when full rations were a starvation diet. Frankel's family were all in camps and none survived. How they died is not the issue. How many people have to suffer before we can call it a holocaust? Does it matter if they were gassed or if they died from starvation, exposure and overwork? Is Frankel's survival proof of Hitler's benevolence?
When my father was on his deathbed, he told me that God would be angry with him after he dies. He was very agitated and said that the reason was that he was a Jew. I reminded him that he was Lutheran and he said no he was a Jew. I mentioned that his father was Lutheran and he said No he was Jewish too. I thought he was delirious so I tried to calm him but he remained agitated talking about how he has to have a Jewish funeral. Finally, I just went along with him and said that it must have been hard to keep that a secret all these years. And he got calmer and teary-eyed and said that it was. I told him that I really didn't think that God would care and that they had been Lutheran for a long time it had nothing to do with him, it was the circumstances and the times. And he relaxed and agreed with me on that and was more like himself again. He passed away 2 months later.
The idea that Hitler was tolerant of the Jewish people is a delusion at best. My Dad, like many people, were so propagandized to the inferiority and evil of European Jewry that he felt that just having a few Jewish genes was something that he needed to keep hidden for survival and to assimilate into German ruled society. That is just one of the powerful effects that racism has on a human being. To live your life trying to surive and thrive in spite of the political powers that be-even before Hitler. Anit-Semitism exerted pressure to convert to Christianity as far back as 5 generations. This makes it hard to buy Junkers arguments about Hitler's encouragement of diversity and religion. Hitler did not invent anti-Semitism but he and his friends elevated it to new heights.
Junker believes that history is a lie. It's very hard not to look at the volumes of documentation needed to prove Aryanism, or the Hitler stamps on correspondence from a child in a concentration camp. Hitler created hell on earth for so many people-a hell that was also inescapable for many Germans who did not feel as Junker did about it. History can be interpreted many ways but cold hard documentation is impossible to ignore and there's a lot of it. Books and films that have come out of Germany give a much clearer picture of Hitlers legacy and what it means to real Germans than anything that comes out of Hollywood, and when it does memorialize Hitler (Downfall) it does so in a very accurate way. I feel sad for Mr. Junker that he can't let go of the pride he feels for his ancestry. If I was in his shoes, I'd be thankful for Hitler only because without him he would have been raising his family in Romania as an ethnic German. Life is a heck of a lot easier in Millard.
- said...
it's ironic that this man junker would pick the u.s. to spread his story after all these years and still have the belief that he somehow may be arrested for his actions . I believe he still doesn't understand america and is doing this to serve purpose to his own life.My father, a ww11 vet, to this day will not talk about certain things, but is very proud of the fact he was involved .Mr Junkers actions, although questionable, are allowable in this country and if you are not born and raised here, cannot fully understand what america is all about. Mr. Junker should be more thankful for being able to raise a family and grow old peacefully.If WE, the UNITED STATES had lost the war, do you think this article or even the newspaper would be here today?
- said...
This is right on the money: "I believe he still doesn't understand America and is doing this to serve purpose to his own life."
One thing that I observed as a child listening to adults that lived through all this in Europe is that the less of a real "German" they were the more they defended Nazi ideology. Not the holocaust-that was always delicately sidestepped or denied. Perhaps the forced expulsion, defeat and revulsion from the rest of the world made that shaky position that ethnic Germans had of their own identity as Germans even shakier, making it harder to accept and define who you were and are. What that taught me was that undue pride of ethnicity, or nationalism of any kind, anywhere(including America), should raise a red flag in all of us.
I also suspect that there is a certain unresolved shame and guilt that accompanies this. The truth is that most people at that time had no control over the direction of their lives and Fascism gave many the illusion of control. Smoke and Mirrors. If Hitler was so great what possessed Thomas Mann-a real honest to goodness German -to write the short story Mario and the Magician in 1929? It wasn't too hard to see an even bleaker future when the choices presented were communism or fascism.
"Biographical note on Thomas Mann
Thomas Mann (1875-1955) moved to Switzerland in 1933 shortly after the Nazis had come to power and begun a campaign of abuse against him. He was formally expatriated in 1936. In 1937 the University of Bonn deprived him of his honorary doctorate (restored in 1946)."
- said...
I'm sure Mr. Junker loves the free publicity he's getting for his monument.
The Department of Justice is very interested in people like Mr. Junker. They have a department that specializes in cases like his. According to their web page: The Office of Special Investigations detects and investigates individuals who took part in Nazi-sponsored acts of persecution abroad before and during World War II, and who subsequently entered, or seek to enter, the United States illegally and/or fraudulently. It then takes appropriate legal action seeking their exclusion, denaturalization and/or deportation.
Visit the DOJ website to see how many ex-Nazis are still being stripped of their citizenship to this day. This is due process and enforcement of the law. Something that the victims of Nazism were denied.
Did Mr. Junker mention his Waffen-SS affiliation when he applied for US citizenship so many years ago? I doubt it. Does this qualify as entering the US fraudulently?
He shouldn't be surprised if Dept of Justice officials attend his grand opening on June 25th. They will be made aware of this special event and Mr. Junker's history.
- said...
is he fuckin nuts? somebody neede to check in on this old dude from time to time.LIKE HIS FAMILY!
- said...
I grew up in a gentile family, neighborhood, schools, and society. My information is predominently what I have read and published. I have never heard this side of the story. My father-in-law is a German and I had to listen to him for years tell us this entire story was fabricated by the Jewish press. As a child I was not allowed to even mention anything about the Jewish community. My Christian schooling always blamed Jews for the anti-Christ movement. Junker must be trying to bring self fullfillment into his own life. Maybe he is not proud of his children, work, community, and other interactions that fill his life. This is a real stretch swinging Hitler from goat to hero. I know the evidence is very strong about the Waffen-Schutzstaffel (SS) actions and the Hitler movement. Remember about 20 years ago the young German Nazi movement started up along with the KKK. Both these groups attracted every loser society had to offer. Many Germans are real proud and full of themselves and are in search of identity. Many Germans become so proud and dignified they can no longer see the truth. I'm not turning this into a German beating but I know first hand the hard and full egos that the decendents of the Third Reich live with. I am a decendent of the Third Reich.
- said...
This is ruling from a 2005 appeal of a man who insisted that as an ethnic German he was conscripted into the Waffen SS in Romania. Like Junker-whether he joined or was drafted makes no difference.
"Joseph Wittje served during World War II as a member
of the Waffen SS. That service, regardless of its nature or
voluntariness, rendered Wittje ineligible for a visa at the
time he applied for one. Summary judgment was, therefore,
appropriate in favor of the United States. Wittje's arguments
concerning the jurisdiction of the district court and this
court, as well as his claim that his right to equal protection
was violated, are meritless. The decision of the district court
Clerk of the United States Court of
Appeals for the Seventh Circuit
Wittje's timeline of service, immigration and overall ethnic background mirror that of Junkers. The only way to have been able to gain admission to the US with refugee status-under the Displaced persons act of 1948 (amended in 1950 to restrict Communist influences)- would be by not disclosing his membership in the SS. Personally, I don't believe deportation would make any difference to him at this point in his life considering the depth of his feelings. The Donau-Schwaben-and other Ethnic Germans of that area, like many ethnic and eastern Germans did suffer quite a bit after World War I. Hitler's idea of reaching out to all "Germans"-in these regions was facilitated through the use of the SS. The Nazi party recruited and utilized these often willing young people of German descent to gain strength in parts of Europe that were once included in the "second reich" so to speak.
Unlike Wittje however, Junker takes pride in his choices and ideology. When so many millions of people were displaced and only 400,000 were allowed to immigrate from 48 to 50 (More documentation was needed after 1950), the idea that Junker's immigration prevented or made it harder for someone who really was displaced in spirit and circumstances to come over really bugs me.
- Patrick Broderick said...
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- Patrick Broderick said...
I'd also like to add that I'm happy this article was published. These ideas should be exposed and discredited so they have no place to hide and fester. Hopefully Junker will take his ignorance elsewhere and we can get on with our lives peacefully.
- said...
Both my father and uncle fought in WWII...for the United States of America.
This man is an embarrassment to all of those who came from small rural areas such as Walworth County, and were wounded, or died fighting for our freedoms.
It is hard for me to imagine why "The Week" would decide to cover this unrepentant Nazi. But maybe this article was done to show us that hatred lives in all areas, including ours.
- Heir Kohl said...
"For there is one thing we must never forget...the majority can never replace the man. And no more than a hundred empty heads make one wise man, will a herioc decision arise from a hundred cowards"
-Adolf Hitler
My hat is off to you Heir Junker, for the courage of your convictions.
- said...
Maybe the best response, is no response at all. The KKK, Neo-Nazis, Skinheads all have their public marches. They want people to show up - supporters and protestors alike. I plan to ignore Mr. Junker and not give him my time of day. He obviously wants the attention that I refuse to give him. I spent one half hour of my time on Mr. Junker, and that was to report him to the proper authorities in Washington. The posters above provided details about other people like Mr. Junker. Let the courts deal with him. He not worthy of any more of my time.
- said...
If Junker had done this in America when he was 37 instead of when he was 87 that would have been courage of conviction. Doing this at 87 is a bit like being a suicide bomber. Had he stayed in crowded, devasted West Germany or gone back to Romania to make a life and take his stand-now that would have been courageous.
- said...
According to Walworth County Government Online (www.co.walworth.wi.us/taxroll.nsf) - Theodor Junker last appeared on the county tax roles in 2001. He mentioned that he modified his will in the article. Does that mean that he is no longer the owner of that property? If a family member, or someone else, now owns the property, isn't that person responsible for what takes place on that land? Whoever owns the land that the monument stands on might want to take some responsibility.
- said...
I agree with the person that said:
"is he fuc*in nuts? somebody needed to check in on this old dude from time to time.LIKE HIS FAMILY! "
When my parents, and my husbands parents were in their 80's no matter how sharp they were they needed their family to help them make decisions. I really believe that Junker's age has clouded his judgment as old age and youth tend to do to a person. Not saying that his beliefs weren't always what he states in the article, but voicing them in this way is another thing. I can't help thinking how terribly embarrassing this must be for his children and grandchildren.
- Dan Plutchak, editor said...
There's a typo in the fourth paragraph on the jump page in the print edition.
The grand opening is Sunday, June 25 at 11 a.m., not Saturday.
The information at the end of the article is correct.
~Dan Plutchak, editor
- said...
If he's so proud to be a German, and Hitler made Germany better than it was before the war, how come he was such an eager-beaver to move to the States? All you have to do is check out that one picture of him with that huge set of choppers and those pinprick pupils--and you know he's living in his own little made-up world.
- said...
I get your point- but the point he's made about him making things better in Germany refers to before the war-he means the 1933 to 39 period. The social programs he enacted were not unlike those that FDR enacted here-social security for example. The difference is Roosevelt did not then invade Poland and France, persecute and enslave millions of people of Jewish descent etc etc. Junkers is a selective historical perspective-like always looking on the bright side of life. :-/
At the time he immigrated Germany and it's infrastructure was bombed out. About 14 million homeless people: ethnic German refugees from the Baltics, Poland, Romania, Czechoslovakia etc, the former population of East Prussia and those who fled East Germany were crowded into what we now know as West germany. There were also the Jewish people that did survive. Kind of like post katrina New Orleans magnified. Without the benevolent humanity of the Americans and the Marshall Plan, the British and Candians toward Hitler's defeated Reich things would have been much worse in the post war period.
That's Hitler's "gift" to the world. Ironically the word gift in German means poison.
- said...
This is a poorly written article. The author does not manage to maintain her credibility, nor her critical thinking skills. With the following statement by the author about the IHR website, she reveals her lack of discernment - "But the compelling evidence they present shows that Auschwitz was not an extermination center and that the story of mass killings in 'gas chambers' is a myth. "
The IHR documentation has been shown to be faulty and deliberately misleading. As a fellow journalist, I expect better investigation of the story from my colleague, and not blind acceptance of propaganda.
- said...
A walking fruitcake. I would say that he should be deported but the German people of today probably don't want him either.
It sounds as though this old coot has been living in lala land for many years.
- said...
Finally, a fresh perspective on the overplayed and untrue version of the "facts" of the holocaust. It is nice to hear from one who was there and knows what happened first hand, as opposed to the slanted story we've been told all our lives by people who weren't even yet alive.
- said...
I like how all the "anonymous" writers are the ones who are too cowardly to stand up for their beliefs. I, for one, think he is a great man and should be treated as such. There are many good things that Hitler did that are not common knowledge. All we were ever told is "EVIL, KILLED JEWS!!" He also united a whole nation against the rest of the world! Quite a feat. Let's see any current government or leader do that!
- said...
Wincell wrote:
"There are many good things that Hitler did that are not common knowledge. All we were ever told is "EVIL, KILLED JEWS!!"
The end only justifies the means if the outcome is the desired one. Clearly, even Hitler did not want this outcome-or he would have come out of the bunker.
Also there is a lot of good and accurate historical information out there if one is interested enough to read it. Common knowledge is always narrowly focused on specific events. There are plenty of things about American History and current events that are not common knowledge either. If people want more than that the information is out there.
- said...
At least one of his signs, misleading as it may be, has some basis in truth.
Hitler did bring work, bread, and dignity back to the German people through public works projects. It's all Keynes, man.
Hitler did provide Germany with social security, and health care through massive governmental social wellfare.
Hitler did unite the people with his promise and deliverment of better living conditions in German after the Weimar Republic and war reparations. And he did have a goal to unite Europe.. although in a very genocidal and uh... brutal fashion.
He did provide a direction for the future.. although a uh... kind of genocidal and brutal one.
And maybe that's why the German people of that day and age loved him so.
Not condoning his other actions in any way, shape, or form, but it is true he improved Germans' (besides a few uh.. undesirables) living conditions.
Too much economics for me.. I've got a final tomorrow.
- said...
That man denying everything what was done in WW2 is an insult to every Nazi, not even speaking of the people who fought them...
I have the up most contempt those revisionists.
- said...
Wincell, I think you'll find the rest of the world is pretty much united against George W. Bush, so it can be done, even today.
Scoop is right. The writer is either a revisionist, or terribly naive to present such discredited sources as serious. The editor certainly should have removed or changed that part of the article.
- said...
This is the limit. Everybody who written a comment isn't from Europe. I am from The Netherlands and every year on the 4th and 5th of May we commemorate the liberation of the Netherlands.
The US has until 9/11 never been attacked on its soil and after that everybody in the US wanted to bomb the rest of the world. No take that feeling and multiply it by a 1000 and the you will feel what the people felt in the Netherlands and in the rest of Europe when the Nazi's where in power.
The Waffen SS was an elite fighting unit, with some very bad people in the. My advise is to send Mr. Junker to Israel so the can investigate him if he did war crimes. Instead of leaving him do this.
Or send him to the Netherland on 4th of May so he can stand in Scheveningen where a big bell is rung and the names of all the resistance people are called out let him do that.
If I had made a memorial saying that 9/11 wasn't real and that the pentagon directed the plane's into the twin towers and made a memorial for Osama Bin Laden how would you react?? I think you know the answer! Please do the same for the rest of the world!
- said...
Message from a Belgium guy,
No one seems to want to know the fact that Hitler had no Money!! Economics was very bad, all over the world, and America called in their loans from Germany, so Germany was completely broke!! But what happened? A grand-father og George Bush arranged money for Germany UNOFFICIAL, this has been reported by the BBC, who invertigated the matter and found black on white evidence, with a signature from the Bush at that time. The US was after Germany, just as they did with Iraq, and they would like to do now with Iran.
Allways the same story....
But at the end it doesn't matter what you believe, just believe that you have to act right to all people, and don't convict anything unless you've seen both sides of the penny!!
Greets from Belgium!!
- said...
anonymous said...
Mr. Junker has inspired me to open up my own museum. It will be a dog turd museum. It will have dog turds of every size,shape,and color. And dog turds from around the world. I think that my museum would be far superior to Mr. Junker's museum because he only has one piece of shit in his!!!
- Dan Plutchak, editor said...
Reply to Scoop and S.J. above ...
Sloppy editing on my part.
The word "compelling" in the paragraph below was edited out of the print version and should not have been in the online version.
"... But the compelling evidence they present shows that Auschwitz was not an extermination center and that the story of mass killings in 'gas chambers' is a myth ..."
It's been corrected in the online version.
We used the information to illustrate how Junker uses the site to validate his denial of the holocaust.
~Dan Plutchak, editor
- said...
To the posters from the Netherlands:
It's io
nteresting to hear a perspective from there. Quite a few people here who wrote have European roots-or were "there", so to speak. I wasn't born here either. I've dealt with and examined my "Germanic" roots for a lifetime. The sterotypes surrounding being German are often hard to take. It's not easy being a kid and knowing that many people view you as "Nazi spawn". :-)
The problem with accepting what someone who was "there" says as unqualifed truth is that truth is subjective. You get the "Rashomon effect" which is basically "That's not how I see it"
To truly understand this time-if that's even possible-one needs to get a global perspective. Testimony from individuals who were "there" is important in understanding, but combined with other facts and testimonies the truth is never quite so black and white. I think that this is the problem with revisionism-like any "ism" (fascism for instance) it views history through too narrow lens.
- said...
In my Wisconsin there are numerous daily killings in the abortion rooms. I cannot walk safely on the streets , narcotics peddlars , porno pedlars and
pedophillic schills pack the media ( not to mention quite often the streets.)
The media loves its dope clowns , its caucasian hating rappers , its mysogynistic gays , its own lies about everything. Who are the media?
This elderly man in rural Wisconsin can't speak out , why not ?
Palestine is a slaughter house , but no one complains about that particular camp , in our own time.
It is always interesting to see who may and who may not speak their mind in this free America.
- said...
I know, I know: Let's have some journalism!
Forget the big issue stuff. Let's start with the details of the guy's life. Real or fabricated?
Did this guy actually serve in Germanyin WWII? What unit? What rank? Do his recollections of where the unit was and what it did jibe with the actual record? These things aren't obscure, if he says he was in Norway and the unit was in Russia, baddabing. Did he actually come to this country in 1963? Is any part of his story actually corroborated by a paper trail of records and passports and immigration records?
Hook line and sinker. For all we really know, he's delusional about the whole thing and grew up as a rabbi's son in Brooklyn.
- said...
Great article. Well Done Mr. Junker.
Sieg Heil!
- said...
Of course he can speak out-but free speech does not come without a price. If the consequence of his free expression is deportation due to misprepresenting his background in order to immigrate,
that's the consequence of his speaking out.
If people disagree with what he's saying they also have the right to speak out against it and debate that point in public without fear of reprisal from the government at least in the US.
However, if Junker or you or I were to buid a Hitler memorial, assuming that we immigrated legally, the only fear we would need to have would not be from the government but would be from the community. For example-If that was the case and someone vandalized Junkers property they would be subject to consequneces just like anyone else.
- said...
Well it's just a matter of time before this story is all over the place:
- said...
Are we really surprised by the fact that a former SS officer would feel comfortable enough to build a shrine to Hitler in Walworth County? I'm not. The Fundamentalism in this area is virulently anti-Semitic and homophobic; racist remarks are still common place, and I have heard several people from outside the area comment that Walworth County reminds them of the Deep South--prior to the civil rights movement.
As far as I'm concerned Walworth County posted a want ad for this demented indvidual and now they are shocked, SHOCKED, by the fact that someone answered the invitation.
I'm not. In a few weeks we will have a demented monument to hatred and sociopathy, a watering hole for every racist, bully, thug, and homophobe within driving distance. Welcome to good old Walworth County where the unofficial County anthem is "Deutschland Deutschland Uber Alles."
Shame on the powers that be for creating such an inviting climate for this individual.
On a more serious note...Does anyone have a spare copy of William Shrirer's THE RISE AND FALL OF THE THIRD REICH? I think it might come in handy if only to correct the historical revision that will be spewing out of Junker's hate palace.
- said...
If I am informed correctly everybody has the right to state his believes both in Germany an in America. I guess it's the so called "Freedom Of Speech".
So if this old man believes that Herr Hitler was a great man that wanted to help Germany and the Jews and the known world or even the whole universe then let him build and open his museum.
It just doesn't matter if he is right or the rest of the world is. It is his right to say and write whatever he wants to.
I have visited several Konzentrationslager. I saw the brigs where you can't stand or lie in. I saw the ovens where the peolple were burnt. I saw the scratchings the people made with their fingernails into the walls.
It is a very weired and scary thing to be there....
What scares me even more is that america is on its best way to become a totalitarian country.
It is already bigod and has a double moral. The american government states it wants other countries to become democratic and to maintain the human rights but they use military power to achieve that goal.
I don'nt need to point out that this is not the real reason for Americas last "conflicts" but economic reason are.
But to stay on real facts and not my beliefs: America attacks other countries to instate human rights and democracy but in america still exists the death penalty. America means to be an constitutional state but has things like the "Prison" in Guantanamo Bay where inmates have no human rights.
The inmates are tortured, "waterboarded" for example (sorry that i don't know the correct term), many inmates had no trial before they got arrested. America states that the prison is on "lawless space"...
And by the way: You just can't change the peoples mind with gunpower! When does America learn that their weapons are not the solution?!
do I have to write anymore?
America really has to change its way... and the fact that a Adolf Hitler museum of an old SS Offizier has to be discussed in public and became that famous says all to me.
Best wishes
- said...
After the Jewish holocaust became a huge commercial enterprise in the seventies, almost every American war veteran I knew at the time claimed to have seen "the bodies" or "ash pits." Assuming they were telling the truth, I'd like "Scoop" to tell us where the bodies or ashes of these gassed or burned alive victims are located. I'd also like "Scoop" to explain exactly how and by whom (name,organization, etc.) the Institute of Historical Review has been discredited.
- said...
Mr. Junker is no better than any other hate group who decides to use the one thing this country gives them "freedom of speech" to use for his own advantage. He will get free publicity, all the attention he wants from TV stations and start a protest that will further feed the frenzy.Walworth County dealt with the KKK Klowns several years ago, at what cost to the county? Now we are expected to put up with this Nazi and any of his cronies, who decided to come for a visit to worship there hero.If he was really in the SS why isn't he in jail?
Oh, I forgot, he was with the "good old boys" who didn't steal, hurt or murder 6 million people.
- said...
I don't believe any of this propaganda about the Holocaust either. The fact that you can be arrested in so-called western countries confirms it's a big lie.
I have come to view the media as nothing more than a tool to sell products and lies to advance narrow political interests .
- Pop Silviu said...
I am from Romania and I am especially proud that a romanian german decided to honour the great man and leader of all aryans that was Adolf Hitler.
Well Done Mr. Junker, the romanian national socialists thank you and wish you all the best.
Sieg Heil!
- said...
The only good thing about this person's actions are that they provide us with another strong reminder: Despite the passage of time and the waning of memories, WE MUST NEVER FORGET.
- said...
Thanks for printing this article. It is about time that someone examined the reality of the situation in Europe, and the Third Reich. The truth is not as we have been told, and it is only the repression of the truth about this most disasterous war that maintains the illusion that most call history. Any objective person,who considers both sides, and all the evidence, will establish that men like Germar Rudolf and Ernst Zundel are correct, and that the so-called 'holocaust' was nothing more than propaganda.
The best book written by the opposition to the 'holocaust' myth is Dissecting the Holocaust: the Growing Critique of 'Truth' and 'Memory'. It is an excellent read, and anyone with the courage to read it will have his or her eyes opened.
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Well, how intolerant can we get, anyway? If this was a museum devoted to the accomplishments of homosexual artists, then we'd all be expected to fawn over it and declare it a great day for the First Amendment. We'd also be expected to fully endorse and celebrate the fact that we're such a tolerant society these days but if you should speak against it, then watch what you'd be called. If you would also dare to mention the "G" word (God), then you'd be doubly intolerant and a religious tyrant. It seems to me that Mr. Junker has every right under the same First Amendment to present his views regardless of how misguided they may seem. Liberal views in this country are endorsed constantly by our media and universities but conservative views aren't allowed to be aired with equal enthusiasm. Through federal funding of the "arts", we've all had to pay for abominations such as the crucifix soaking upside down in the "artist's" own urine and not raise an objection lest we be called several names. Everyone will be free to go to Mr. Junker's museum and I'm sure he'll get a lot of criticism for his efforts, but as an American citizen, he's perfectly within his rights to build whatever he wants on his own property regardless of what it contains unless it poses a public hazard. I write this anonymously as I don't want to be deluged by the leftist gestapo's hate email. It's amusing but tends to clutter up my mailbox. Gosh, where's everyone's tolerance, anyway?
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Are we really surprised by the fact that a former SS officer would feel comfortable enough to build a shrine to Hitler in Walworth County? I'm not.
>>> Why not, it is America. Or are you against freedom of only HIS speech not Yours?
The Fundamentalism in this area is virulently anti-Semitic and homophobic
>>> So these fundi's are anti-Arab? Arabs are semites also but ONLY jews get that special moniker. AS for homosexuals, who cares. They are a non-issue and should be pushed back into the closet.
; racist remarks are still common place,
>>> That is true. All I see on TV is anti-White hate propaganda. Most violent crime is non-White against White as is most "hate crime" but you never see a LAW AND ORDER touching on that fact.
and I have heard several people from outside the area comment that Walworth County reminds them of the Deep South--prior to the civil rights movement.
>>> You meant the snivel rights bowel movement. I have yet to read ONE negative thing about neither Mr. Junker nor Walworth County. It sounds like a nice area for any White person to abide. Maybe that is what sticks in your craw?
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What a great man. I especially appreciated that this SS officer had the courage to speak out against the foul lies of "gas chambers". In Germany, as Junker explained, they would just put you in jail.
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I used to believe the 6 million exaggeration until I saw THE HOILOCAUST TRIAL OF 1984. THat was the trial of Ernst Zundel for "sreading lies about World War Two". As if that should be a crime?
Liars should be examined and brought out into the open NOT imprisoned. The real liars are the schmucks and shysters like Elie Weasel (mispell on purpose).
All Jews on the stand admitted the nonsense about their supposed "suffering" in Nazi "death" camps was "poetic license". I call them lies.
The standard Hollywood Nazi and Holocaust is a myth.
It's coming down. Payback might NOT be so easy.
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I mentioned earlier how the American war vets I knew as a teenager in the 1970's spoke of seeing "the bodies" and "the ashpits" of the Jews who died in the gas chambers. If this is true, then I'd really like to know where all the solid forensic is located. Strangely, my school teachers never showed me so much as one autopsy report where gassing by Zyklon B was listed as the cause of death. All I was able to locate were reports of death from typhus, which ran rampant through the camps when the German infrastructure collapsed during the last three to six months of the war. I'd also like to know which American Army units were in the so-called death camps. Does journalist "Scoop" know? I have to wonder about this because several of the vets I spoke to were Marines and sailors, and it occurs to me that if they could lie to a youngster, then so might the US Army vets -the overwhelming majority of whom could not have been anywhere near the camps at the time of liberation -be lying.
Thus far all I've read in this forum are paraphrased statements from alleged eyewitnesses, lots of derision of Junker from "experts" who "know better" and certain politically correct buzzwords; e.g., hate, kkk, etc. How about providing forensic evidence of the Jewish holocause in the form of grave and ashpit locations, exhumations and autopsy reports, please?
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It is very important to understand that the majority of Jews are also victims of the lies of the Billion Dollar Holocaust Industry.
Remember this when the rapidly disintegrating myth of the Holocaust becomes too obvious for the media to ignore.
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What an idiot. This nonsense hardly warrants a deeper response than that.
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Herr Junkers Ehre Heisst Treue
I salute you Mr. Junker for remaining true to your convictions as an honorable Alt Kampfer despite inevitable malignment from a degenerate 'society' of deracinated consumer drones.
If the article is true I would like to visit your memorial should I ever pass through your neck of the woods of Wisc.
Best Wishes, Sam Comyn
An American comrade
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It is very sad to see the average American citizen spew garbage such as the "one of the most well documented events" in hiostory. There is virtually no forensic evidence that points to any of the camps being death camps. A far as the IHR reports, there are very few that are factually in the wrong. Numerous scientists have been employed by both sides to check out the supposed gas chammers at Auschwitz and all came to the same conclusion; there is no presence of prussian blue in amounts greater than in the other buildings that were also deloused with zyklon-b. A jew, David Cole, made a documentary at the Auschwitz camp and had interviews with two of the the guides and the camp director. It is all on film as they tour the facility and admit that they lie to visitors when they say the "gas chambers" are in the same condition now as they were then. A blatant lie admitted on film by the camp director as he admitts that the "gas chambers' were produced after the war by the Soviets. Why was the plaque at Auschwitz recently changed from 4 million to 1 million? Where are the other 3 million? Why do groups like the ADL and WJC still propogate 6 million when most scholars admit about a million total and most often from typhus? Its the shakedown for cash from banks in Switzerland. The AMERICAN Red Cross was in all of the camps, why did they not speak of such killings? The Allied bombers made daily passes over Auchwitz and took photos and guess what, of the thousands of photos, not one shows smoke from bodies burning or lines of people waiting to be gassed. For all you brave people behind the keyboard, produce one document that shows forensic data proving mass murders in camps. By the way, 50 some odd million died in WWII, so why are jews so special? The jewish led communists killed 60 million russian gentiles in the russian revolution, now that is a real holocaust. Where is the Speilberg movie about that......the jew media will never allow it...!! Confront facts with provable facts or you are just another indoctrinated goym at the mercy of the man behind the curtain. By the way, please the Talmud, it is a very interesting revelation of how the jew really feel about gentiles.
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I think Mr. Junker is a courageous man. It takes a lot of guts to do what he's doing - going against the mainstream historical lies in such a public way. He has all my respect. Deutschland Über Alles, Herr Junker.
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The Junker guy is probably roght. History is written by the winners. It is all a big lie made up to justify the formation of Israel. By the way, how many camps did Israel build and kill in Palestine? We should wake up from this lie. There is really no freedom if you cannot say what people don't like to hear. Hitler was right.
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It's clear from what Mr. Junker says in the article that he is not an anti-semite, a white supremacist or a KKK kind of a guy. He seems to be doing this to make himself feel better about his heritage and history. A very human thing to do-right or wrong.
The unfortuate part of that is that in doing so he is dragging the White supremicists, neo-nazis and anti-semites into the open and into his his life, his families lives and that of his neighbors. Maybe this is his intention but I really doubt it.
This is really sad.
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I myself am planning a memorial to Vlad The Impaler.
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He did after all keep Wallachia free from invasion-and he was a snappy dresser.
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I see from some of the above comments that the haters have found Mr. Junkers. They intend to go and protest him and harass him on the 25th. It is easy for people who hate to pick on a man in his 80s isn't it? They don't like what he has to say so the standard harassment will apparently commence.
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Intresting how Hitler's spitit always seems to bring out the worst in people.
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Glen asks:
"I'd also like to know which American Army units were in the so-called death camps. "
Here are a few:
Members of the British Royal Artillery 63rd Anti-Tank Regiment liberated Belsen on April 15, 1945, and arrested its commandant, Josef Kramer. The relief operation which followed was directed by Brigadier H. L. Glyn-Hughes, Deputy Director of Medical Services of the Second Army.
Soldiers from the Third U.S. Army division found more than 20,000 people in the camp, 4,000 of them Jews. Approximately 56,000 people were murdered in the Buchenwald camp system, the majority of them after 1942.
The Flossenburg camp was liberated on April 23, 1945, by the 2nd U.S. Calvary.
The three camps at Gusen were liberated on May 5, 1945, by the rec.squadron of sergeant Albert J.Kosiek. More than 37,000 inmates died at Gusen. This is more than 1/3 of all the victims of all the other camps located in Austria.
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The family of the father of one my best friends, along with the rest of the Jewish families on his block, was herded by the SS into the street. (My friend's father was 12 at the time.) There, my friend's father watched as the SS shot his mother and five year-old sister right in front of him. Then my friend's father and his father were sent to Auschwitz. My friend's father survived, but his father perished there.
While my friend was growing up, her father never spoke of his experience, as is true of many holocaust survivors, due to post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). But in his later years he has done a lot of healing. He now goes around to Houston schools to tell his story, and he speaks to groups about it at the Houston Holocaust Museum. This is a huge breakthrough for him.
What a horrible abomination Junker's "memorial" is to people like my friend's father and the their murdered loved ones.
I can grant that Junker, at 87, probably has some organic brain issues now propelling him, or he wouldn't have dispensed with the wise low profile he kept in his earlier days in the U.S. But his family should have moved heaven and earth to stop him from this.
Nothing good can come from it.
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Its about time someone brought this up. Junker is a very brave man. My father was born in Belarus a seen first hand why most of Eastern Europe fought along side Hitler. The jews who always were the big communist agitators before the war, would be placed in top posts by the occupying Soviets. I went to visit some of my fathers friends and relatives in Europe who lived during this time and what they told me was shocking. After I got home from Europe I looked this stuff up and found that in the 20's and 30's and 40's all the top communists were jews! Its no wonder people hated them so much. I then read more about the so called "Holocaust" and found out that the only "Gas Chambers" that were found were in Poland at Auschwitz. This room that is 12 by 16 feet long, never had a scratch on it and after testing them it was found out that they were built after the war! I read more and more and my whole world was changed. I then found out that the jews own 95% of all the media in America! This is why I've been taught these lie's since I entered grade school. I urge everyone to go out and learn this because the jews are pulling a fast one on us. If the jews are so sure of this story lets have a conference about it. Lets discuss the facts on C-span and have a debate. Lets let the public decide what happened. People you need to realize that the jews are trying to control the world. It sounds crazy but put some time into learning this info and you'll be shocked. I didn't want to believe this either but a fact is hard to ignore. We went to war for the jews in Iraq and if you don't believe me ask that Harvard instructor who tried to publish a paper about this. Jews, please stop doing this and come clean because I honestly don't want this lie you've been pushing to come true. Please!
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From The Netherlands
The people that are writhing good things about Hitler are those who never left the US.
The US has never been invaded so you will never feel how that is.
That this man can make an memorial about Hitler shows the best of you country,
Freedom of speech. It also shows you the insight about the people in your country thinking that you can say anything
Being white and yelling sieg heil what's the porpoise???? Saying these things in the Netherlands is forbidden why, because it hurts a lot of people those who's family died and those who have been in the war.
The most hate groups are in the US. Why because it's easy to talk about thing you have never seen.
So this is for the free speech:
I would like to thank Osama Bin Laden for destroying the twin towers and flinging into the pentagon.
This was the best thing that happened in the last 60 years.
My only regret is that the 4th plane could and kill more people.
I also would say to the freedom warriors in Iraq kill more US soldiers so Iraq can be free again
So that's free speech for you in the worst way. Free but stupid
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Hitler was a great man, The world must know the truth on how the jews have lied.
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Poor old man truly believes there free speech in America. Just wait until the Jews find out about this memorial and call the Justice Department. They have a special dept. set up for departing these old men.
How anyone can live in America and not see the strangle hold jews and their lobby and media have on our government.
It a true shame a hard working man like him will spend his gold years in some eastern European hell hole just to satisfied the Jews need for blood.
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"Meine Ehre Heisst Treue"
Loyal to the Fuhrer to the end!
Maybe now people can see what lies were perpetuated by the Allies for the last 60 years.
I salute Mr. Junker!
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Does anyone know who condemned Christ to death? Does anyone beleive?
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Some people just don't get it. Call if you want to join me to protest on opening day. Ridiculous. "We good people of Walworth don't' agree with you" Who fucking cares if you agree. Do you think that someone was associating Walworth county with a Nazi movement? No, it's just one old guy with a story to tell. And yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if he does go to jail or something now. It wouldn't be the first time an SS agent was found out and done away with by powers with government influence in the last few years.
I think all of his points are very valid. History is written by the victors. And yeah a lot of Jews died in concentration camps. But while the Germans were very good about keeping records of everything they did even it it didn't look good, they can't seem to find any records of the murder of Jews or gassing of any kind.
The whole of the historical evidence that we tend to rely on is focused on the rage and horror of the conditions and the vast numbers of dead. Millions of Jews died in that period of the Nazi controlled government. No one denies that. But you can't ignore the fact that there is no evidence that it was intentional murder of those millions. The Jews weren't the only people to die in that time. Germany was being absolutely crushed militarily on all sides toward the end of the war. And I think it's reasonable to assert that the horribly overcrowded camps where the Jews were being moved to for export from Germany would be the last to get food, supplies and medical attention. Do you think that we would be all for equally spreading the limited rations of everything to our prisons if we were in a similar situation in the US? Hell no! Prisoners would probably get nothing at all if we were in a shortage and civilians and military were starving.
The Nazi party for all it's unpopularity in the world after the war, had a grand dream for Europe. And a critical part of that dream, and of Nationalism in general is a homogeneous culture and race of people sharing the same land. Most of us in the US don't like the idea of racial segregation, but it is one of many natural forces of social structures. And Hitler and the Nazi party were embracing that natural force with the removal of Jews from Germany and the encouragement of Aryan races to regroup. While I'm sure many people had a hatred of Jews in that time, just as many do even in this day and age where they control much of the banking system, the popular media, the pornography industry, the educational systems, Hollywood and countless other influential industries, that was not necessary to the central goal of creating a racially homogeneous society. Only the removal was necessary, not the ill will or a desire for the Jews to suffer or die.
It's hard to present any real evidence for something in history when the primary focus is on the emotion of the story and most who lived then are dead now. But consider the many factors in why it's to the advantage of the winning side to present "The" holocaust in such a dramatic way. Consider the US support for Israel. Consider the false flag events of the past to get the people of a nation behind a war effort. Consider 9-11 and think about the brand new owner of the world trade center. Think about the many respected professors and engineers claiming that it seemed to be an intentional event, not by terrorists, but sanctioned by more local powers. Think about how 9-11 became a driving force for the erosion of the civil liberties in America. Think about how the fight on terror which was drawn from 9-11 was turned to be used in our quest for oil in Iraq.
Today's popular portrayal of the holocaust of WWII has seeds of truth to accompany it's emotional message. But it is also most definitely a political tool used to sway the public opinion in support of the current actions being taken by our government.
In writing this defense of the man in Walworth county, I probably come across as anti-semitic. In reality I'm only saying that things are a lot deeper than they seem. Jewish people are smart. And they have a culture all their own. They also tend to have a feeling of superiority that can be summarized by the religious statement "We are the chosen people. Sorry, you have to be born into it.". They advocate racial tolerance to keep from being a target in the societies they live among. But while the advocate racial tolerance, they have a strong force of self segregation in their own culture. They don't prefer racial mixing for themselves.
I'm not taking any side. I don't believe in sides. I just believe in what is provable and what is storytelling. We have all heard the story of the victors many times. Now when some old guy stands up in his last years and feels like he has nothing to lose by telling his side, people crawl out of the woodwork to say "You may have the right to say such things because we live in America, but you are wrong because I feel strongly about it!"
The lack of reason gets to me.
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Thank God for people like Mr. Junkers
The truth shall set you free.
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According to Anonymous, members of the British Royal Artillery, soldiers from the Third U.S. Army, and soldiers from the 2nd U.S. Cavalry liberated the camps.
Thank you for helping to establish the fact that the majority of American vets who claimed to "have been there and saw the bodies of gassed Jews" after the Jewish holocaust became a commercial enterprise in the 1970s were liars.
I wish I had known this while growing up.
Now, can somebody please provide forensic evidence of the Jewish holocaust in the form of grave and ash pit locations, exhumations and autopsy reports?
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Before one starts thinking you can say what you want in America w/o worrying about being shipped off to another country to face their system of justice, you had better google the name Ernst Zundel
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From a purely technical standpoint: Would it have been too much trouble for the reporter to interview a few more people and include them? Single-source stories, even ones of noteworthy people (I do not mean that to connote approval or even likeability), should at least include a few other voices to show the writer did their homework. What do the neighbors think? What about the family? A historian? Anybody else?
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Gary J-
When you google Erich Zundel it says he was deported from Canada not the US.
No one will probably read this or get it since people seem to want to just believe what they choose to believe-Not that there's anything wrong with that-
Historical revisionists are always attacked by those that don't believe in them. Howard Zinn-a respected Historian and author of the Peoples History of the US is also attacked by groups that called him a revisionist. What that is called in Western culture is debate. Debate is a good thing. It doesn't mean however that any one side is totally good or inherently evil-It just adds new perspective to the mix. Revisionism becomes problematic when it spawns zealots that refuse to look at all the facts and keep them in historical perspective.
"Hitlers Willing Executioners" by Daniel Jonah Goldhagen -1996, was a best selling book that attempted to prove that the majority of German people were complicit in the holocaust and that there was some sort of "genetic" tendency in Germans to be this way. That book was discredited and met with distain by most reputable historians-including Jewish historians.
Spielbergs film "Munich" got a lot of criticism from the Jewish equivalent of the Neo-Nazi camp. So the man tries to present a balanced picture of events, and individuals that can't seem to accept that historical events are never good/evil critize that. Accept that history is past, accept that it's over and we neeed to learn from these events and move on, let go of all this anger and quit the blaming. No one is ever blameless.
Accepting any one point of view as a doctrine for absolute "truth" is a huge mistake. Trying to blame an entire culture for all that is wrong with the world is -dare I say - stupid. When we do that we create hell on earth. But we stupid humans never seem to learn.
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"What do the neighbors think? What about the family? A historian? Anybody else?"
That would have nice to know but I believe that is more of the investigative type journalism that you find in other sources-Like the New Yorker. This could be a really interesting and enlighting story if done in that way.
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The AP has picked up the story:
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"He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past controls the future"
--George Orwell
The point is that we don't know the full story of Hitler. Was Hitler truly a monster? My gut feeling is no.
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Since Junker immigrated in 55 and not 50 as the article originally stated he most likely did not misrepresent his past. I sure hope he isn't harrassed by either side.
In my opinion the best thing to do is to let him end his life in peace.
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Mr. Junkers clearly has beliefs that are acceptable in American society, regardless of where they originate. He believes that there was a respect to other races -isn't this enough to pull him out of that "hate" camp?
Every race supports their own on the side, whether officially or in a subtle manner. The point is that we need to have a respect between them, or else the problems between nations/peoples get worse.
Today in America the concept of the nation-state is under attack. The validity of race is under attack. We are being told there is "no such thing as race" -yet to not discriminate against it. We are told that "we fight wars against humanity, not countries" yet encouraged to protect our grand United States. That criminals are "only trying to make a living", yet need to be punished. Crumb by crumb is falling from our people. From this "nation" which is being accused of all the worlds problems in news from all over the world and within our own country.
Western society is losing itself. I believe that Mr. Hitler predicted this; and it's working out it's course as we speak.
In an era of our American history where historical perspective and our news is increasingly influenced by special interest groups and our homeland is off fighting a war for Israel -I think it's only expected that every "odd" group get a slice of this chaotic mess which is our failing national identity -and that the people are allowed make up their minds where their values sit; because like our flag which is being desecrated by every anarchist, communist and idiot who feels they have a voice -so has the history behind this flag.
Even today; whilst some of you call for the deportation of Mr. Junkers because of law in this country, you ignore the law being violated by millions of Mexican illegals (Oh, I'll bet your all for that legalization because, they aren't Germans who have a backbone and sense of identity). It only shows me the bigotry of your arguements.
Time to re-evaluate our situation here in the states. Mr. Junkers -I may or may not agree with you but, thanks for giving us a choice!
"Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived... he had a mystery about him in the way that he lived and in the manner of his death that will live and grow after him. He had in him the stuff of which legends are made."
- John F. Kennedy,
President of the
United States of America
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Mr.Junker does not appreciate or seem to understand the freedoms afforded him in the United States.
He insults every Amercian who served during WWII.
He should be deported with the other Nazi war criminals.
He is one sick individual
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Aaargh- He is not a war criminal. You need some serious facts to prove that.
Anyway- This speaks volumes. Mythologizing Hitler as good or evil is a mistake. It's a mistake that humanity makes becasue we are unwilling to recognize the potential for evil that exists in all of us. Especially our leaders.
"The great enemy of truth is very often
not the lie deliberate, contrived and
dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent,
persuasive and unrealistic. Mythology
distracts us everywhere."
-- John F. Kennedy
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BTW-Hitler was a huge fan of mythology.
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Mr.Junker show no understanding for history or remorse for the loss of life during WWII.
What are his real motives to this memorial?
The German Government should look into his service record for war crimes.
Mr.Junker is a disgrace and a waste of a human life.
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That JFK quote was from his diary after touring post war Germany in 1945. The jury was still out at that time. Apparently it still is for some.
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We in Americia only want to see our version of events, we won the war and we get to tell how it was fought. Is it all true? I am sure it's not, we had many Jews in office with the Roosevelt admin (Morgenthau for one), and to believe everything they tell us is being very lazy. I am for free speech and it firightens me that the Jews of the world call for the arrest and even worse of those who challenge the mainstream views of the war. It seems in Europe (and in the US) freedom of speech is only for "accepted" forms of speech. Hitler predicted that the west would collapse after the war, it's happening now as we look around in amasement and wonder how our great nation came to this. Thank those gloating vets who thump thier chests at the defeat of the only nation who could have saved the world form the trouble we face.
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"The World Jewish Organization declared war on Germany".
"the mass killings in gas chambers were a myth."
See, there we have both the "it didn't happen" and the "but they deserved it". Just once, I'd like to see a denier who didn't try to have it both ways.
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"Does anyone know who condemned Christ to death?"
That would be the Romans.
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It's great that there are still people in this world who dare to tell the truth despite of jewish persecution against them. Hitler was Right. Sieg Heil. 14/88
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Also, it wasn't just the gas chambers. That's a strawman.
It's not "six million Jews were gassed and then cremated", it's "six million Jews were murdered by the Nazis and their subordinates in a variety of ways, including being shot, being hanged, being beaten, being shoved into cattle cars in such huge numbers that the people at the bottom died, being forced into buildings that were set on fire, being sent into gas chambers, being starved, and being deliberately denied sanitary facilities so that they died of typhus".
When you have enough small-scale massacres and atrocities... over a six-year period... in every area that the Germans controlled...
they add up.
The Nazis' own population estimates at the Wannsee Conference were for eleven million Jews in Europe before the War. After the War, it took a while to be able to do a good census, and they had to account for immigration and natural deaths, of course.
The best estimates are that, as a direct result of Nazi activity, between five and seven million people who were Jewish, or whom the Nazis identified as Jewish, were either murdered or otherwise intentionally placed in lethal circumstances (which is considered "depraved indifference", and is a felony). That's part of the reason they lost the war, in fact - devoting too many resources to killing civilians.
You who don't believe it happened, let me ask you this: if it HAD happened, would it have been a bad thing?
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This is great. Finally a place has been established where people can pay tribute to one of the greatest men who ever lived. Heil Hitler!
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This looks interesting. Too bad more people can't be like Mr Junker who loves both America and Germany. A lot of posters on this thread seem like they are still living in the past and wanting to re-fight WWII, even though it has now been shown that the communists killed far more people than the nazis ever did even if they really did kill 6 million Jews. I am glad to live in a free country where this man can build his museum, unlike Europe where they still jail historians who publish things about WWII that seen too pro-Axis.
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Anonymous, if you believe that kwatsch I suggest you roll back over onto your other side and continue soaking up the Holocaust Channel.
The Germans who starved, suffered and were displaced did so at the hands of the same gallant Allies who murdered 60 million human beings in Ukraine, routinely executed tens of thousands of Gentile officers, intellectuals, poets etc. (Katyn, Poland being one example), performed on German women and children the greatest mass-rape in the history of the world, ethnically cleansed tens of millions of Germans from historically German land and lands to which the industrious, ingenious Germans had been invited to settle long before the war, rained fire from the skies on militarily insignificant German towns and cities, killing tens of thousands in an *actual* holocaust for whom nobody is punished, and then erected over the Germans a system under which they must welcome every socially destructive and subversive phenomenon, they have no right to freedom of thought or self-defense (our most cherished rights), and under which they were forced to finance the armament and infrastructure of the most dangerous, problematic, invasive state in the middle east.
The quote you attribute to Hitler, which he made openly as a motivational statement to his people at a time of rampant decay and corruption, long before he took power, is taken totally out of context in your move typical of his critics.
If you parrots of the WWII propaganda on which our current nightmare system of endless war for nuclear Israel is built care to dismiss the highly incomplete allegations I list above with the canard that Hitler "started the war," I suggest you enlighten yourselves with the words of Jewish hero Benjamin Freedman.
Freedman was a top Zionist and figure in the movement to destroy Germany and purvey the lies you guys parrot. He was an advisor to three US presidents and uniquely positioned to tell the truth about WWII and WWI when he DEFECTED from the Zionist movement and did just that.
Use your brains!
Cheers to the brave but naive Junker, in whom the unmatched tradition of bravery lives.
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I feel sorry for this undoubtedly friendly, warmhearted and conscientious man. But he is also clearly DELUDED.
As one of millions of European men whom we may credit for keeping Western Europe, and ultimately the world, free from the unspeakable (and largely unspoken) horrors that JEWISH soviet political commissars committed under communist rule, and as one of millions of European men in SS uniform who fought honorably, bravely and excellently against overwhelming numbers and resource disadvantages to prevent the very collapse of Western civilization we witness all around us, Junker is right to fear his arrest at the hands of the viciously spiteful OSI Jewish supremacists who will likely soon kick his front door in, regardless of the fact that he, like 99.9999% of SS men had NOTHING to do with what small aspect of our state religion (the "holocaust") is actually true.
But if he thinks the first amendment will protect him from the campaign of harassment and life-destruction he faces, he's got another thing coming about this country.
In just about every other nation in which the wildly exaggerated "holocaust" tale is used to morally disarm the host population and keep the Jewish ruling class and its nuclear-armed terrorist state immune from criticism, Jewish lobbyists and media bosses have succeeded in enacting laws that punish gas-chamber-doubters with prison time. Not so here because of that pesky 200-year old constitution.
But they get around that. A whole system is in place to make the next few years of Junker's life HELL. And what's worst for the old guy is that his only visible support will come from nutcase social rejects wearing Stumabteilung uniforms complete with armbands: NOT exactly the class of elite philosophers, warriors, environmentalists and scientists who led Germany to independence from rule by a corrupt coalition of communists, Jews, capitalists, and mobsters.
Junker, WEHRT SICH! Shrill Jews and their fake costume-"nazi" "NSM" goons are about to close in!
- said...
Junker's wishes to pull the wool over the eyes of the people of Walworth County is an affront to us and Americans everywhere.
I take no offense to him saying what he believes. In American liberty, freedom of speech is the crowning jewel.
Where I take offense is how he drapes himself in the truth by denying the single-most documented and worse genocide to date. He's apologizing for fascists, racists, and a fanatical group that exploited the disadvantaged people of Germany so they could push a sickening campaign of ethnic clensing.
I feel it my duty to oppose Junker's position and memorial publically. I personally plan on protesting the grand opening.
I have my own ideals and my own political affiliation. Protesting Junker's memorial involves none of them. Protesting the memorial is affirming to Junker and everyone else that his ideas don't represent the citizens of Walworth County. That's why I call upon citizens of all stripes to join me in opposition to Junker on June 25th.
We dare not use the law to have Junker's memorial taken down; that is equally unAmerican. We should show Junker, rather, that the court of public opinion has already ruled on his type of ignorance: the decent people of Walworth County are in solidarity against him.
- said...
For the record. The Waffen-SS was a military division that solely dealt with combat (essentially murdering American, Canadian, Australian, British, French, Polish, Russian, etc etc etc troops). The regular SS were the black uniformed concentration camp scumbags we are all used to.
- AFA said...
Can someone arrest this sad excuse of a human being?
Thank god we in Europe do have laws against such creeps.
AFA Netherlands
Anti Fascist Action league Netherlands
- said...
Why is everybody responding anonymous?
Why not tell your own name?
Affraid maybe?
- said...
No one is disputing (I hope) that Stalin was also an evil genocidal monster responsible for the deaths of millions. And no one is disputing that hundreds of thousands of German civilians were killed during the war.
I do find it ironic that the same people who used to accuse the Jews of being the Shady Financiers who Control the World are also accusing the Jews of being the Top Soviet Communists.
Those of you who say that there was no Holocaust, please answer this question:
If (for the sake of argument) the Holocaust DID happen... would that have been a good thing or a bad thing?
- said...
JOHN F. KENNEDY, U.S PRESIDENT: "After visiting these two places (the town of Berchtesgaden and Obersalzberg) you can easily understand how that within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived. He had in him the stuff of which legends are made." - Prelude to Leadership, The European Diary of J.F Kennedy, Summer, 1945.
JESSE OWENS, AMERICAN NEGRO OLYMPIC ATHLETE: "When I passed the Chancellor he arose, waved his hand at me, and I waved back at him. I think the writers showed bad taste in criticising the man of the hour in Germany." - Richard D. Mandell. The Nazi Olympics
READERS DIGEST: "That Hitler's conquest of the hearts and minds of all classes of Germans is now so complete that even if all his Brown Shirts and Steel Helmets were to be disbanded tomorrow he would still be easily the strongest man in Germany, and on any appeal to the electorate would be confirmed in power by a quite overwhelming majority of votes ... Hitler is recognised by the whole of the political and official intelligentsia as an exceedingly able man ... As of the militarist question. One may say with complete certainty that what Hitler said in his Reichstag speech on May 17 was exactly what he meant and accurately represents the policy that he will pursue ... I found no German who dreamed of the possibility of war, few who did not hope that it might be prevented in the future altogether. The truth is that the Nazi mind is concentrated on the internal problems of Germany and does not want to be bothered by foreign affairs for a long time to come ... Hitler has passed from the stage of party leader to being the national prophet of an exceedingly serious people, and it would need another prophet to replace him." - Clifford Sharp, former editor of the New Statesman writing in The New Statesman and Nation. Reprinted in Readers Digest, September, 1933
"German Declaration of War against the U.S.
The Government of the United States having violated in the most flagrant manner and in ever-increasing measure all rules of neutrality in favor of the adversaries of Germany and having continually been guilty of the most severe provocations toward Germany ever since the outbreak of the European war, provoked by the British declaration of war against Germany on September 3, 1939, has finally resorted to open military acts of aggression.
On September 11, 1941, the President of the United States publicly declared that he had ordered the American Navy and Air Force to shoot on sight at any German war vessel. In his speech of October 27, 1941, he once more expressly affirmed that this order was in force. Acting under this order, vessels of the American Navy, since early September 1941, have systematically attacked German naval forces. Thus, American destroyers, as for instance the Greer, the Kearny and the Reuben James, have opened fire on German submarines according to plan. The Secretary of the American Navy, Mr. Knox, himself confirmed that American destroyers attacked German submarines.
Furthermore, the naval forces of the United States, under order of their Government and contrary to international law have treated and seized German merchant vessels on the high seas as enemy ships.
The German Government therefore establishes the following facts:
Although Germany on her part has strictly adhered to the rules of international law in her relations with the United States during every period of the present war, the Government of the United States from initial violations of neutrality has finally proceeded to open acts of war against Germany. The Government of the United States has thereby virtually created a state of war.
The German Government, consequently, discontinues diplomatic relations with the United States of America and declares that under these circumstances brought about by President Roosevelt, Germany too, as from today, considers herself as being in a state of war with the United States of America.
Accept, Mr. Chargé d'Affaires, the expression of my high consideration.
December 11, 1941"
Hitler wanted no war with the United States, but was forced into it by the jewish powers that controlled Americas media and had strong influences within the American government. Just after Hitlers rise to power national jewery declared war against Germany and provoked untill they got it.
Although I have searched for over a year, I have not found any evidence of a "holocaust" against the jews or Hitler ordering any such actions.
Junkers actions are heroic considering that in these times many are being deported and tried for simply questioning the "official" version of the "holocaust". Anyone who seeks to silence him and those like him should be ashamed. If he is wrong, then it should be shown. Calling a man insane doesn't necessarily make him so.
- said...
American vet-
I believe you are referring to me.
That "kwatsch" that you speak of is what I learned from my obviously deluded, lying parents and family members that lived through all this too- My surviving "ethnically cleansed family members" BTW. I learned pretty much what you're trying to say, but without the ranting, hatred and with a hell of a lot more logic.
My parents, brothers and myself, are refugees from East Prussia, The stories you tell are well known to me. But here's the difference. The stories of bombing and Communists, of the flucht, of retribution of the Poles and the Russians toward ethnic Germans, of starvation and loss and so on, were told with regret and with the acceptance of the circumstances that life gives a person-Shicksall- so to speak-You accept it and move on.
When the Communists were moving into the Baltic States, my ethnic German grandparents were relocated. The Nazi government put them in an apartment in an area where Polish people had just been expelled by Nazis. My very German grandmother said it was terrible, that "the beds were still warm" from the former occupants. Even in the middle of it all, apparently some people can still see the situation as wrong -not as "Our loss is your gain!", or that we somehow have a right to this land because we're Germans. It's too bad the Poles didn't decide that two wrongs don't make a right, but that's what shicksall and generations of living in an unfortunate geographical location will do for you. Those atrocities are well documented and are not denied. All the talk about how there's no free speech and there's all these coverups is amazing to me. There's a lot of information out there.
As far as that quote goes-Hitler was right about that. The German people, did not collapse under the the war and the post-war burdens. They kept going, rebuilt, took care of their own, including the 14 million ethnic German refugees that flooded into West Germany, and never complained. At least openly. Whining would not have been very Germanic now would it? As it happened the German people actually thrived economically under the burdens once Hitler was out of the picture. They were made of even tougher stuff than Hitler thought.
I still have relatives in Germany, and my parents maintained friendships with Canadian and British soldiers and officers that helped them in the Refugee Camps where my brothers were born. So I do believe that I can say God Bless America and the allied troops. It's not a pefect system here-and everyone committed atrocites in WWII, but let's give it up already. You have a war and people are going to get killed-and in some cases slaughtered, starved or worked to death. This is the nature of war. Shicksall again.
I am personally tired of ranting neo-nazis and of extremist Jewish Organizations perpetuating negative sterotypes of Germans. The ideology of both of these extremist groups are actually very similar when you think about it. Talk about carrying a grudge.
I'd rather be stoic, quit whining and blaming and act a little more "Prussian" or "German" oe "human" (and Christian) about it all.
- said...
Gerrit Botter said...
"Why is everybody responding anonymous?
Why not tell your own name?
Affraid maybe?"
Not afraid of the government-afraid of hateful raving lunatics calling me up and boring me to death.
- Aryan Warrior said...
Listen On The Internet:
June 14, 2006 - Wednesday
- said...
"There Is None So Blind, As He Who Refuses To See The Truth."
There is one comment which Mr. Junker made which I do very much believe to be true, however:
No one was ever "forced" to join the SS. The SS was an elite unit, to which dozens, if not hundreds, of German applicants were rejected for every recruit who was accepted. They were the most fanatical Nazis, the most savage combatants. The overwhelming majority of war crimes committed by the Nazis, both against uniformed troops and against civilian noncombatants in conquered territories, were committed by the SS.
I once read a book by Bill Mauldin, the now-deceased cartoonist and creator of the now-famous "dog-face" infantrymen "Willie" and "Joe".
In his book, Mauldin recounted how it came to be that when his unit arrived in Paris, right before the Liberation, they accepted the surrender of an elite German Waffen SS unit.
One of the captured SS men (a prototypical blue-eyed blond Aryan type) spoke English and asked to speak privately to the senior commander of Mauldin's unit, in a conversation which Mauldin witnessed.
The SS man first tried to claim that it wasn't fair for him to go to a POW camp because he was Dutch, not German. (Which was possible).
Then he tried to claim that he'd been "forced" and "coerced" into joining the SS !!
To which, one of the men in Mauldin's unit, listening to this laughable fairytale, snapped something like:
"WHADDAYA THINK WE ARE, 'morons'? They don't let just 'anyone' wear that uniform! What did you have to do to get into the SS - TURN IN YOUR WHOLE FREAKIN' FAMILY?!?!?!"
The commander of Mauldin's unit then whimsically looked at the SS man and calmly told him (as the SS man's eyes widened and as he started sweating and panicking), "Dutch, eh? 'Coerced', eh? Let's see what your SS 'buddies' have to say about THAT!"
He then walked over and had a translator loudly repeat the "Dutch" SS man's entire account to the rest of the captured SS men, whose faces reddened in rage and whose eyes immediately narrowed.
The commander then told the "Dutch" SS guy:
"You won't have to worry about going to a POW camp - your SS pals are gonna PULL OFF YOUR ARMS AND LEGS AND BEAT YOU TO DEATH WITH THEM!"
- said...
Here in Iowa we have a poor Croatian ex-Waffen SS veteran who was forthcoming about his past service to immigration authorities. He was 18 years old when he was "vounteered" to the SS by the Puppet Croation government. Because of poor eye sight he was assigned to escort prisoners in a concentration caamp. As a young kid he hated it so bad, he voluneered for combat, was wounded in the face. He came to Iowa was liked by everyone and now at the age of 85 and many court appeals, he is going to be deported. Mr. Junker should take notice.
- said...
May God be with the people of Walworth County. This story has opened up a pandora's box which may never be shut again. The evil this will bring to our county has been here for a long time, now they have a voice and a gathering place too.
- said...
I am still awaiting solid forensic evidence of the Jewish holocaust in the form of grave and ash pit locations, exhumation records and medical examiners' (autopsy) reports from Mr. Junker's detractors. The holocaust was a well-documented event, was it not? Perhaps the highly-educated AFA of Netherlands or the journalist "Scoop" could provide this information? A book or website with photocopies of the relevant documents, perhaps?
Here is another question for Mr. Junker's detractors. According to Raul Hilberg's "The Destruction of the European Jews," the Jewish inmates of Treblinka, Belzec and Sobibor (accounting for half the Jewish "victims" of the holocaust) were murdered by carbon monoxide (CO) and this gas was supposedly generated by diesel engines. It is a well established fact that diesel engines produce much smaller concentrations of CO than, say, the inexpensive producer gas (Holzgas) burning engines used throughout Germany during the war. Why did that purportedly efficient, frugal, and highly effective Germanic killing machine we've been told so much about choose diesel fuel over Holzgas to exterminate nearly half of European Jewry?
- JesusLiebenDu said...
This is amazing, 60 years after WWII and Liberals, Communists, and Jews refuse to let their grip on the masses be shaken. This issue is propably the most sensitive issues that exist because we've all seen schlinders list, anne frank, and all the other million and one drama films about holohoax, meantime nobody on earth even knows that jewish communists annihilated 10 million russians during red terror, or stalins 8 million ukrainians, or mao 30 million not those are not nearly as bad as "6" "million" "all gassed" at fairy tale land. All the emotion over this crazy crap isnt worth it, quit watching movies. This guy has got some major balls to do this, and for that he should be respected in this age. I imagine its about time somebody stands up for a man to tried to stop white extinction. It wont be long before majority of Americans are mexican, british and french are arabs, russians are chinese, italians are north africans, spain is moorish again, norway will be muslim. White culture was destroyed in 1960s, and now in 21st century will we go extinct, yet anyone who trys to stop it is "evil racist who hates other races" This man is a hero, but since you cannot convince a conglomerate of masses what truth is (they prefer hollywood over history) I guess we will have to accept "objective" "facts" from "eye witnesses" that germans made soap out of jews, ate jewish children, and raped jewish women and eat their brains and cooked them in a witches brew in dachau, pass the kool-aid you plebes. long live liebral suicidalism. Vive le Extinction!!!!!!!!!!!!
- said...
If anything the Allies are to blame for the holocaust. During the war the Allies bombed German railroads into ashes. This caused major disruption in transfer of medical supplies and food supplies to the camps, thus towards end of the war, most of the camps went without food. Aside from this typhus was running rampent in the camps and thuse a combination of disease and starvation killed off many of the Jews (but certainly not 6 million) in the camps. It was obviously not intentional. The last thing Germany will be trying to do is feed and get medicial supplies to the same people they believe (and rightfully so) was behinde the bolshevik movement in Russia and socialist and liberal movements in western countrys. Had the allies not utterly bombed Germany in revegeful hate those Jews wouldnt have died. However victor being victors they write and twist history. Piles of dead bodies makes excellant propaganda and thus far its used to smash any resistance towards bolshevik liebral elite. As for Jews who died it was a another sorry event of WWII in which many others died as well. Jews did die but it was not intential at all and if anything certainly not Hitlers fault. The Allies should apologize for 60 years of demonization of Germany state, and for (most importantly) to the Jewish community for haulting medical and food supplies that was so badly needed by these camps.
As far as killings on the Eastern front goes, most of the Jews who died happened to be Communist party members, since Communist party members were obviously military targets, they got hit, and lack of remorse is shown by Ukrainians and Russians who had only few months before invasion been starved to death by Stalin and his Kosher Communist movement.
- said...
This in response to the person who stated that Romans condemened Jesus to death"
14For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:
1 Thessalonians 2 14:15
Let me repeat that
Jews have no relationship with god at all, Hence "Only way through father is by me (jesus)" and jews deny jesus, plebes
- Glen said...
Anonymous writes: "May God be with the people of Walworth County. This story has opened up a pandora's box which may never be shut again. The evil this will bring to our county has been here for a long time, now they have a voice and a gathering place too"
Since the 1970s, if not before, members of Walworth County's political, education and media elite have made the county's residents of European Christian descent feel guilty about alleged war crimes committed by their European cousins during the second world war.
Sickened by a half-century of half-truths and lies, Mr. Junker rebels in only way he is able.
How do you know, Anonymous, that Mr. Junker and other WWII factualists are evil? Do you have a special relationship with God? Did He tell you the Truth? Did He tell you we were evil? And would He be the same God whose Son on earth, Jesus, referred to the Canaanite woman as a dog? Is this why you feel justified in calling upon God and using the word evil as a pejorative?
Do you know, for a fact, that six million Jews were systematically executed by the Germans? If so, then please provide the solid forensic evidence I've requested. If not, then please refrain from calling upon God or making comments about good and evil until you know what you are talking about.
It is possible, afterall, that God is on Mr. Junker's side and you've yet to be notified.
Thank you.
- nordicbeauty said...
Finally someone is discussing the holohoax! I would love to see Herr Junker offer copies of the International Red Cross documents - you know, the ones that were sealed before the Nuremburg Trials?!? These documents show that the Red Cross was there at the camps for years. Why were they covered up? And why do Americans hesitate to talk about the German/Italian/Japanese camps that were here on our own soil??
The reason the Jews died in the camps is the allied blockade that did not allow food to reach the camps. It has been scientifically proven that Zyklon-B would not have worked! If the "facts" we were taught in school are so correct, then why aren't we allowed to ask questions??
The Holohoax is the biggest Communist lie of all time!
I'd also like to know how Anne Frank was able to complete her diary while using a ball point pen -- nearly a decade before they were available to the general public.
Seig heil Kamrade!
Klara, Chicago, IL
- Giant Lego Millipede said...
"This in response to the person who stated that Romans condemened Jesus to death"
14For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:
1 Thessalonians 2 14:15
Let me repeat that
Jews have no relationship with god at all, Hence "Only way through father is by me (jesus)" and jews deny jesus, plebes"
Show me the forensic evidence that there ever was a Jesus. I want to see the autopsy report. The "Jesus Hoax" has been fooling people for centuries; it's time that it was exposed and shown as a lie.
Don't give me any of that "Bible" stuff; that's just propaganda. What kind of idiot would believe that the Romans would allow a conquered people to enact their own justice?
And I still haven't heard anyone answer the question of whether the systematic murder of Jews would have been a good idea. Yes or no?
- Giant Lego Millipede said...
Anne Frank and Ballpoint Pens:
In 1986 the Dutch "Gerechtelijk Laboratorium" (State Forensic Science Laboratory) in Rijswijk conducted another extensive technical examination of the manuscript. Though the BKA was invited by the "Gerechtelijk Laboratorium" to indicate where on the loose-leaf pages it had found the "ballpoint corrections", the BKA was unable to point out a single example. The "Gerechtelijk Laboratorium" itself found only two slips of paper in ballpoint ink which had been inserted in Anne Frank's loose leaf manuscript. The Revised Critical Edition of the Diary of Anne Frank (published 2003) reproduces images (pages 167-171) of the two slips of paper, and in the chapter summarising the findings of the State Forensic Science Laboratory which analysed the materials, ink and handwriting in the manuscripts of Anne Frank, H.J.J. Hardy writes on the matter:
The only ballpoint writing was found on two loose scraps of paper included among the loose sheets. Figures VI-I-I and 3 show the way in which these scraps of paper had been inserted into the relevant plastic folders. As far as the factual contents of the diary are concerned the ballpoint writings have no significance whatsoever. Morever, the handwriting on the scraps of paper and in the diary differs strikingly.(page 167)
A footnote on this page adds:
The Hamburg psychologist and court-appointed handwriting expert Hans Ockleman stated in a letter to the Anne Frank Fonds dated September 27 1987 that his mother, Mrs Dorothea Ockleman wrote the ballpoint texts in question when she collaborated with Mrs Minna Becker in investigating the diaries.
- Giant Lego Millipede said...
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- Giant Lego Millipede said...
klara said:
"And why do Americans hesitate to talk about the German/Italian/Japanese camps that were here on our own soil??"
You're absolutely right; that was shameful. Say, how many Germans, Italians, and Japanese died in those camps?
And do you approve of the killing of Jews, yes or no?
- Giant Lego Millipede said...
A few more points:
even when the solid forensic evidence is produced, it's never good enough for some people. As for autopsy reports, do you seriously expect that they would have been produced under those circumstances? The killing of civilians during a war by a hostile government - not even the most fervent denier would argue that at least some Jewish people died in the camps, and that the Reich was hostile towards them - would not result in an autopsy.
As for the plaque at Auschwitz - the plaque placed by the Soviet authorities at Auschwitz read that that 4 million people had been killed at the death camp. Western historians never believed that figure, as estimates of the number of people killed at Auschwitz were consistently estimated at 1-1.5 million people. After the fall of the Communist government of Poland, the plaque was changed to 1.1 million victims. Holocaust deniers frequently argue that this proves that the numbers of the Holocaust were exaggerated, when the plaque was never part of any historian's calculations of victims at Auschwitz.
As for the deaths of tens of millions in Russia - that was equally an abomination that should never be forgotten either. Were Jews involved? Undoubtedly some were. Does that mean that all Jews were, that all Jews think with One Great Big Collective Hivemind? In that case, why are there politics in Israel? Why doesn't everyone just agree?
- Giant Lego Millipede said...
Ahh, the ash heaps. Have you ever seen a cremation? Do you realize how much - or rather, how little - ash remains after a human cremation? That's why it fits in that little urn.
If you have thousands of corpses worth of ashes, that would fit in a truck. I say "thousands" for the sake of convenience, and because not everyone who died, died in a camp, and not everyone who died in a camp was cremated. And this happened repeatedly. Ashes were spread over fields, or buried, or dumped in the river.
It's late here, so I'm going to leave the rest of my rebuttals until tomorrow; rest assured, however, that I can rebut them all - with one exception. The statements that the Jews "deserved it". That's a very subjective point.
For everyone reading this, and wanting to point out what a big stupid lying pawn of the Zionists I am, I have one question:
is it a good idea to kill Jews? Yes or no?
- Vlad said...
Hi Dan-
Good idea making people sign in. Until the arrival of the Giant Lego Millepede this blog was deteriorating to what I like to call "Crazy talk".
Good question Lego- I was wondering that myself.
I was also wondering that if the murder, gassing and numbers were removed from the equation, would it be Ok to persecute, inprison and enslave millions of Jews, tens of thousands of Gypsies, Poles, more than three million Russians,Communists, Socialists, thousands of trade unionists, religious dissidents, and homosexuals?
And how about that euthanasia and sterilization program for at least 200,000 mentally or physically disabled people-including Germans? I am guessing that was also justified?
- thinker said...
I have a few questions for those who believe anything they read and see.
1)you say 6 million Jews were killed, ok, so how many Germans, Poles, French
2)Stalin killed many more people during his reign than Hitler did. How many memorials or monuments are dedicated to it?
3)Why is no serious research allowed into WWII?
4)The REAL Big question. Why have laws protecting a 'True' historical fact? I do not see any laws protecting crimes during the Vietnam war or World War I. Surely it should be OK to discuss a different opinion on World War II as you can with any other historical occurrence.
In closing everybody likes quoting Hitler saying something about the bigger the lie the more it gets accepted, and they blame Hitler for the big lie. In my opinion any so-called truth that needs to be protected by law can only be a lie.
- JesusLiebenDu said...
A lot of that anti-slavic crap that comes out of todays propaganda is also prominent. Hitler order luftwaffe to be careful not to hurt polish refugees fleeing warsaw, and even encouraged russians, ukrainians, and other slavs to join his army, he was even allied with Slovakia and Croatia. In mein Kampf Hitler refers to Russians as "a great people" surcom to bolshevik judaism, so a lot of those millions of slavs because they are inferior crap is nonsense
- Stormgod1488 said...
Thank you Mr Junker we need more ppl like u to stand up and tell what really hapend as were told lies to no end..As allways Loyal to the Fuhrer !
- Vlad said...
Thinker-I will try to answer your question from my point of view but I also have questions for you:
You said:
"1)you say 6 million Jews were killed, ok, so how many Germans, Poles, French."
One first has to define "kill" to answer that. Are you asking about civilian casualties or military casualties?
You said:
"2)Stalin killed many more people during his reign than Hitler did. How many memorials or monuments are dedicated to it?"
The iron curtain cut off any real opportunity for broad historical research into Stalin's reign however like Hitler there are still Fritz Liebkinds who admire him. Here's just one: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002268263_stalin09.html
You said:
"3)Why is no serious research allowed into WWII?"
I've read a lot of serious research of WW II. You have to read a lot of it and make sure that the research allows you to draw your own conclusions based on fact-and there is plenty of fact.
In formerly ethnic German territories in the East-Especailly Prussia records were destroyed. I can't get any family records other than what my mother carried with her when she fled Konigsberg-now Kaliningrad. However there are some records from Concentration camps.
You said:
"4)The REAL Big question. Why have laws protecting a 'True' historical fact? "
What laws are you speaking of? I am going to just guess that you are referring to the number of Jews that died in the holocaust. Any historical data will tell you that 6 million rounded off from an estimate of about 5,700,000. That's a lot of people-however the total civilian casualities for Europe-especially Russia and Poland aare way up there too. The totals in Germany are high. But why argue about this. It's almost like give or take a few million adn what differnt would that make? And even if were only 150,000 that exist in documents in the Bundesarchiv-it still an atroicity and cannot be denied.
It is OK to discuss a different opinion on World War II as you can with any other historical occurrence. But there is a big difference between historical fact and opinion.
All the webistes posted here clearly allow people to say whatever they want and that's part of the problem. Anne Frank's Ball point pen is a good example of that. Regardless of whether her writings wer a diary or a novel the girl was still persecuted and died of exposure to typhoid at Bergen-Belsen. Does it matter if an innocnet and healthy young girl came to this end in this way just becasue she was jewish?
You said:
"In closing everybody likes quoting Hitler saying something about the bigger the lie the more it gets accepted, and they blame Hitler for the big lie."
The big lie theory is indeed one of those things that has attributed to Hitler as a manipulation technique but that's one of those things you have to be careful about-Anyone can post anything on the internet or in a pamphlet and call it fact. And yes you can have some really excellent history teachers and then you can get those who presnt facts without context. It happens all the time but that's not some Jewisdh conspiracy it's just the ifallability of human beings.
Hitler addressed the concept of the big lie in Mein Kampf as it was used by the Jewish media to explain the loss of WWI, but not as a propaganda technique. He has a lot to say about propaganda but every country does that. The problem with trying to find truth is that it is subjective and like the Rashomon effect-and we see it in this blog- One person's truth is another ones lie. Historically Hitler did not lie to the German people.
There is plenty of historical information that illustrates the escalation of events and the blunders made by all the countries involved in WWI including the Allies. I have an excellent educational BBC documentary from PBS that is quite unbiased and fair in it's persentation of the post WWI situation in Germany and the rise of Hitler and the National Socialists. It points out the pressure that was put on Germany and the badly thought out terms of the treaty of versaille. It's called "Make Germany Pay". Not as good as the Marshall plan.
The analysis of that situation is that yes Hitler was able to turn that situation around. But a fascist military dictatorship is exactly that. It becomes a cult of personality and fear is what keeps the engine running. Historically we look at these leaders-Mao, Mussolini, Stalin, for example and they are short lived in spite of loyalists. You can say what you want about American government but for a new country it has one of the most lasting forms of modern government in spite of it's often bumpy history. The reason for that is it is reprentative government it does not rely on a blind obedience or on fear from it's citizens to keep it strong.
While it is true that Hitler did not invent genocide or ethnic cleansing-that does not absolve him.
- Vlad said...
JesusLiebenDu said...
"Hitler order luftwaffe to be careful not to hurt polish refugees fleeing warsaw, and even encouraged russians, ukrainians, and other slavs to join his army,
Maybe this is what was said-but in wartime that is not always what happens. My father was stationed on the Russian front. He was an interpreter and interrogated prisoners. Because of his background and having attended the Russian gymnasium, he really loved what he called the "soul" of the Russian people and treated the captives like human beings while a lot of the Germans did not see the Russians that way-especially at that time. That's the problem with seeing people and events as good or evil or black and white.
He told quite a few stories of brutal and vulgar treament of prisoners by other Luftwaffe interrogators. He also said that when he reported these events to the officers the men were reprimanded, but it still happened. As hard as most people will try to do the right things in tense and dire situations such as this, atrocities will occur-and the magnitude of that war and not having a free press made these things even easier to ignore.
We hear of these atrocities all the time-in Iraq, in Vietnam. That's why in my opinion there is no honor and glory in war-but there is plenty of suffering for everyone-the "winners" and the losers.
- MsK-1 said...
memorial? no.
reminder? yes.
"Not one person was gassed to death in the Third Reich."
"the facilities were not equipped to be used as gas chambers or mass crematories. "
and the Dachau concentration camp i visited in 2001 had a room marked "GASSKAMMER" (gas chamber) for what reason now??? and there were coffin-shaped ovens why???
oh wait, "it was Hollywood" he says. yes, i see it now. the world had enough photographic technology and anorexic men, women, and children to fabricate millions of photos, documents, pulled teeth, piles of shaved hair, and mass graves of emaciated bodies.
someone obviously can't realize that his god is dead and he took his religion along with it.
GRR.....this subject always gets to me.
- thinker said...
In answer to 1, killed, well that can be looked at in any way, war casualties - if you look at this how many of the Jews who died during the war directly as a result of the war - these are all added as victims of the holocaust example by the German forces protecting the suply lines from partisans - I do not think these should be added to holocaust figures. If you are talking about people dying outside of normal war activities, sure the Germans killed Jews, but what makes them more special than anyone else. How many German civilians and prisoners of war died after 1945 in Siberia and of course in the so called prisoner of war camps in Germany. If you have tried looking at both sides aof the war you will realise that they estimate about 7 million Germans. The getting to Russians who did not want to go back to Russia after the war, how many were deported by the Americans, British and French Forces, just to be killed. Then how many German or Italian or for that Case British civilians were killed as a result of bombing raids, if you look at the attack on Dresden, estimates run to 200,000 in one night killed for nothing at all. The question you have to ask yourself is why is such a fuss made of Jewish deaths and nothing of anyone else. War is indecent and no side is without faults in war.
Point two, how many years have passed since the iron curtain came down. How much has really been written or where are the Museums, movies etc on Russian crimes against their own people and for that matter against Jews.Where are the movies or museums for German or Japanese civiians killed in Firebomb raids. Surely everybody suffered and deserves some recognition.
3 -have you really done research from both sides of the war. Can you say you have read at least a quarter the amount of books on the other side of WWII than you have on the more accepted side?
4-Looks like you are not aware of people being imprisoned for questioning the accepted view of the Holocaust. Eventually it is just history, a really bad part of history but what other historical event is protected by law in some countries. Surely history should be open to investigation and debated in the open. Else why bother having historians in the world reseaching history. Surely you realise you have something like wartime propaganda, how do you clear up what is truth and what not. Now people questioning some of the aspects of the Holocast are being locked up in jail. Shouldn't their be something like freedom of speech so anything can be discussed openly. Imagine you believe for example UFO's exist and you get locked up in jail as it is not the acepted viewpoint. Or you think the war in Iraq is wrong. You get deported to the USA and get thrown in jail for insinuating that Iraqis were killed or murdered by US troops. This is basically what is happening to some people
- Giant Lego Millipede said...
And to re-iterate, even for Vlad who apparently missed this:
Anne Frank never used a ballpoint pen. Two post-it notes (not LITERALLY post-it notes, I'm just using the term as a generic so that everyone can understand what I mean) were added in the late 1970s by an investigator. The handwriting on those two notes is very different from all the others, as is the quality of the paper - and, indeed, the ink. Those two notes were written in ballpoint pen.
- Giant Lego Millipede said...
Do you really want an answer as to why Germany has laws about saying that the Holocaust didn't happen?
It's because (claiming that it didn't happen) always seems to be so closely linked to (claiming that it should have)... which so often leads to (someone should try it again).
There never was a "World Trade Center". Sure, some people in New York died on September 11, but that was because of crime. It was all the Americans' own fault for not keeping better law and order in their own cities. If thousands of people died, where are the bodies? Where are the autopsy reports saying "died from being hit by an airplane"? It's all Hollywood. There've been movies about it, even. Sure, there's a big patch in Manhattan that looks like wreckage - but if there was really an airplane crash there, wouldn't there be jetfuel fumes? Wouldn't there be human blood? There wasn't even a building there - buildings have foundations. Where are the foundations? Where are the girders? Those lying Americans... they deserve whatever happens to 'em. OBL was right - Americans should all die! OBL! OBL! OBL! Oklahoma City wasn't enough! WTC wasn't enough! The Pentagon wasn't enough! It's all a hoax! No one ever died in those buildings! They never existed! But it's understandable that people want to kill Americans, for everything they did to ruin our lives! It's their fault!
- Bohemund said...
As an avid reader of history, I believe what Mr. Junker says is mostly TRUE and ACCURATE in his assessment of Hitler, although his recollection of experiences with the war come from just one viewer's eyes. Other people that lived through WW2 should also discuss their experiences.
My father lived in Posen/Poznan before the war started as a young boy. Their lands became Polish lands after WW1. Germans were treated as second class citizens and were jailed for little or no reason with their properties confiscated by officials. Concentration camps were started in Poland by Polish people to house all the political prisoners which were mostly ethnic Germans. Yes, the infamous Auschwitz camp was not started by Germans but by Poland for the very same reason....to house political prisoners, only the name of the city was founded by Germans and called Auschwitz.
My father's first-hand experiences with Russians is one of contempt. While Germans soldiers were given the death penalty for rape, Russians had free reign over the populace with rapes common on city street for all to see, even after the war.
People have been blindsided by our own and other's propaganda machines to justify the reasons we and they went to war. People should read for themselves why Germany went to war. They did not do so for "lebensraum" or "ethnic cleaning", that's rediculous, yet its what most people know as fact. Why would Germany, if they hated people so much, ship people into their own territory just to gas them? They didn't thats why. The prisons were used as work camps for making various products needed while their manpower was off fighting. Why did Germany deliberately starve people to death as the picture depict in the holocaust museums? They didn't thats why. Due to Germany's huge military successes it had captured vast amounts of prisoners which it sent back, mostly by railroad, to Poland for work camps. These prisoners survived years in captivity only to die near the end of the war due to lack of food and disease which was accentuated because of close living quarters. My father was reduced to nearly skin and bone by the wars end. He was neither Jewish nor a prisoner, only a civilian that managed to survive. He was so bad in fact, American doctors took photographs of him for starvation studies back in the states.
That's a lot of people to have died by disease and starvation people may say in the camps. Yet if a reader looks back to east Europe following WW1 (1921-1926), 7-9 millions people died of disease, mostly typhus. These people died across a large tract of land. Living in close quarters as in a work camp must have been horrendously hazardous. The most effective means to combat typhus is a minor fumigation of sleeping quarters and the shaving of hair where the fleas transmit typhus live. That's the main reason for the shaved heads of prisoners and gas chambers in camps. And the poison used for this...Zyklon-B. The poison used after dignitaries visited these camps...Zyklon-B. Even American generals visiting prisoner-of-war camps received a gas shower after visits.
Hitler and Germany went to war to stop the plight of Germans living in territory that was previously German lands. The lands they captured never became part of Germany with the exception of parts of Poland which were German only 20 years prior. All other countries became governed by their own countrymen although with German oversight. Hitler turned around a Germany that was brought to its knees after WW1 and was meant to stay there by the countries that drew up the Treaty of Versailles. This treaty kept adding new demands as years passed. The country Hitler steered back on track was the pride of Europe prior to the war with Hitler himself hailed as the man-of-the-year in 1939 by Life magazine. While democratic countries around the world were reeling with starvations, mass strikes, large crime-rates, Germany was united with pride of their accomplishments and deeds which every countryman played a part.
Was there a holocaust? YES, there was, but it was a shared holocaust and not one suffered by one group of people. Many thousands of people died in camps, but why did they die? The camps run by the allies after the war had a higher mortality rate than ones run by Germans. Disease and hunger was rampant as the Germans knew from there own experiences. The actions by enemy combatants at war we've read about seem unjustifiably harsh, though our our armies acted in similar manners. The actions and deeds of Germany prior and during WW2 parallels our own country in its methods and justifications.
The list of inaccuracies of WW2 is immense with the propulsion behind this being the media and our own propaganda machine which began during the war. For Mr. Junker to have and feel the need to express his affection for Hitler should not be portraying as him being a senile old man, but one of true questioning of "why would someone do so?". Only by not falling prey to propaganda and the seeking of true history will one find the real reason for his praise of Germany and it's leader.
- Dave WW 2 said...
Spring Time for Hitler & Germany... Winter for France...
Don't be stupid be a smartie, come and join the Nazi party.
Time to watch the Producers again.
Mel Brooks (a WW II Vet) and 1st hand witness of the real truth of WW II has said the best way to remember Hitler was to laugh at him. Because Hitler probably would have hated that.
What SS Unit did this guy serve in and where? What's to hide? It might explain his willingness to forget real history?
- RED HAMMER! said...
This man is right! The jewish lie of the so called holocaust has gone on long enough. Any man who speaks out against this display of free speach is obviously a liberal communist that should be deported.
- shirtees.net said...
I think the US school system should focus on teaching our children a broad view of WWII, and not the two paragraphs in US history books or the various jew driven "Shindlers List", "The Holocaust" and whatever jewish media propoganda out is there. Mel Brooks? = Jewish. One side of the story doesnt equal the truth. As a wise man once told me... there are three side to every story. His side, my side and the side of truth. Dont fall victim to just one sides view.
- jadebuddha said...
My family has a summer home 3 minutes from the former "old folks" home, now Nazi museum. In my opinion he has the right to do what he pleases. I will pass it on every trip to Elkhorn and to and from my house. Unless it begins causing problems on A it will not effect me.
I do not believe in his thoughts, but I also do not believe anyone has the right to force him from doing anything on his land nor repressing his freedom of speech.
Just because people do not like it does not mean he cannot do it. But it is fitting that it exists a couple doors down from what was previously the area garbage dump.
- Giant Lego Millipede said...
Bohemund is correct in that atrocities were visited on the civilian populations after the war as well, and that ethnic Germans resident in other countries were treated abominably. And, of course, the phrase 'ethnic cleansing' was never used - although one does have to wonder, didn't there use to be millions of Gypsies? Where did they all go? They entered the camps and then... there's no trace of them.
When we play the "my dead are worse than your dead" game, there are no winners. Abominations were committed in a war, on both sides. The question is whether the abominations were committed as a means to an end, or as an end in themselves.
- Giant Lego Millipede said...
"This man is right! The jewish lie of the so called holocaust has gone on long enough. Any man who speaks out against this display of free speach is obviously a liberal communist that should be deported."
That's cute. That's very cute.
Um. That blazing hypocrisy was intentional, right? You're not so stupid that you meant that sincerely?
"Anyone who speaks out against this display of free speech should be deported" indeed.
- Dan Plutchak, editor said...
News release from the Walworth County Sheriff's Department (6-15-06)
Walworth County Sheriff David Graves and Walworth County Deputy Corporation Counsel Michael Cotter and other Sheriff's Department officials met with Ted Junker today. Mr. Junker has agreed to cancel his event in the Town of Sugar Creek scheduled for June 25, 2006. Mr. Junker built a private memorial to Adolph Hitler. He will not open this memorial to the public. This property is privately owned and not open to the public on June 25th or any other day. If Mr. Junker desires to open the site to the public in the future, he acknowledges he will need to obtain the proper zoning permits from the Town of Sugar Creek and Walworth County. Sheriff Graves stated there will be an increased police presence in the area to insure the safety of the neighborhood and Mr. Junker.
- Giant Lego Millipede said...
Well. I can't say I'm surprised - and it's not a freedom-of-speech issue, after all; zoning permits are important.
I also hope that no one does anything stupid to turn Walworth County into a combat zone, either to support or protest Mr Junker.
In the words of Julian Flood (http://tinyurl.com/fjmav),
"hard lessons about the reality of war, not the dreams of old soldiers, the reality, death brought home to their own
villages and towns, the fine sight of conquering armies in streets that were
not in foreign climes, their own houses burning, their own children dead,
bombs falling on them, not on sub-humans somewhere else.
Inhumane? Of course it was. That's what war is about, doing terrible things
to each other until one cries 'enough!'. It is not the Knights of Gondor and
the elven archers with fine faces and silver helms, it is not Rolande throwing his sword and catching it as he sings in the sun. It's orcs, orcs on both sides, crying for blood, full of lust for darkness, an unstoppable
tide of hate, it's rape and pillage and children starving, fire and torture
and murder in the dark, men in cellars hacking each other to death with sharpened spades, prisoners starved until they eat each other. War is inhumane. That's what the word means."
If Mr Junker wishes to build himself a memorial to Adolf Hitler on his own property, he is allowed to do so. And we are equally free to wish that his rotted, poisonous brain experiences a fatal aneurysm, granting him the type of quick, dignified, peaceful, painless death from old age that the regime he supported so actively... denied to so many millions of Jews and Gypsies and Poles and Russians and Catholics and homosexuals and schizophrenics and the disabled.
Herr Junker, I hope you die soon. But I will not have anything to do with hastening your death, and I hope that no one else will.
- shirtees.net said...
If you go to Aushwitz website it even says they recreated it.
Dont forget about the kosher tax EVERYONE in america pays when they buy groceries or cleaning supplies. See that little "C" or "K" or KSA symbol someplace on your product? That means its kosher certified and in order to list an item as Kosher there is money exchanged... who, in the end, pays for it? Not the company wanting the kosher symbol to sell more products, but the consumers who purchase them. Sure its a minute amount of tax, but I dont want to pay a jewish organization any money. Thats ridiculus. Now they are certifying metals as kosher like aluminum and steel... hey, foods cant touch non kosher containers! what a racket.
Why is it that all the worlds problems revolve around the Jews? coinsidence? I think not. Russia didnt want them, Germany obviously didnt want them, England didnt want them, and we know France didnt want the jews... some "chosen" people they are.
- Giant Lego Millipede said...
Oh, shirtees, you card. You don't mean to say there are still people talking about that "kosher tax" idiocy? I thought they'd given that up when someone pointed out that it's like complaining about an "FDA tax".
"Why do all the world's problems revolve around Jews" - gee, I dunno. Maybe it's because people only notice when there's a Jew involved?
Shirtees.net, can you please tell me if you think it's a good idea for Jews to be killed? Yes or no? Or are you too much of a coward to answer?
- Jessa said...
Honor is found in truth. Mr. Junkers is a brave and honorable man.
- truthinator said...
From a Spanish newspaper article entitled:
All European life died in Auschwitz
By Sebastian Vilar Rodrigez
I walked down the street in Barcelona, and suddenly discovered a terrible truth - Europe died
in Auschwitz.
We killed six million Jews and replaced them with 20 million Muslims. In Auschwitz we burned a
culture, thought, creativity, talent. We destroyed the chosen people, truly chosen, because they
produced great and wonderful people who changed the world.
The contribution of this people is felt in all areas of life: science, art, international trade,
and above all, as the conscience of the world. These are the people we burned.
And under the pretense of tolerance, and because we wanted to prove to ourselves that we were cured of the disease of racism, we opened our gates to 20 million Muslims, who brought us stupidity and ignorance, religious extremism and lack of tolerance, crime and poverty due to an unwillingness
to work and support their families with pride.
They have turned our beautiful Spanish cities into the third world, drowning in filth and crime.
Shut up in the apartments they receive free from the government, they plan the murder and destruction of their naive hosts.
And thus, in our misery, we have exchanged culture for fanatical hatred, creative skill for destructive skill, intelligence for backwardness and superstition. We have exchanged the pursuit of peace of the Jews of Europe and their talent for
hoping for a better future for their children, their determined clinging to life because life is holy, for those who pursue death, for people consumed by the desire for death for themselves and others, for our children and theirs.
What a terrible mistake was made by miserable Europe.
- treblinka said...
Keep in mind that auschwitz was a work camp. There was a swimming pool, hospital, cantina, 2 orchestras, a brothel, a chapel , library ,dentist office, prison,
drama classes, post office and camp currency which you can still buy on ebay.
Is that the kind of place one builds if gassing people to death is the purpose.
www.judicial-inc.biz shows far more about the camps than found in the MSM.
- shirtees.net said...
Jews should not be killed. Only a moron like you would throw that into the topic. I dont want ANYONE killed.. I just want MY race to survive and MY culture to survive. So the next time you pass a law saying I cant believe what I want to believe or I cant say what I want to say, or I cant even think what I want to think... which is life in Germany now.. then I think we've got bigger problems. Jews want their race to survive and I hear it every friggin day when I turn on the TV. I just want my race to keep going on too.
Obviously your jewish... ever listen to to the radio and all the jewish people on there? Ever heard of Bill Handle on KFI in Los Angeles? Its OK for that jew to talk shit all day long about arabs, in fact mock them all day long, yet if I come along and say one thing about a jew, Ive got lawyers crapping their crap all over me. So... who rules? Jews rule. Who runs the media? Jews. Who runs the financial world? Jews! Who REALLY runs the presidency? Jews... if you want names of people in office and who hold power... i'll give them to you... or you can do your own research too...
Hey buddy... I just want to even the odds up a bit.
- Vlad said...
Oh for crying out loud-
The Spanish don't care for Muslims either? What a surprise! Here's a country that is at the top of heap historically for persecution, toture, slavery and , genocide. In fact when Columbus embarked on his first voyage, ships filled with Jews were being shipped out at the same time. Those Spaniards have always been pretty obsessive-compulsive when it comes to ethnic cleansing. They cleaned up the New World and the old at the same time. Now that's something to write to Heloise about. Ironically Spain has Inquisition revisionists. Not that there's anything wrong with that...
As for Arab contributions to civilization-here's just one -Algebra?
I really question how these arguments justify these deeds. Why are so many people interested in being portrayed as "victims"? Victimizers and victims somehow the human race always manages to to do unto the others the same damn thing that was done unto them.
How does contempt of other ethnic groups contribute to making civilization better?
- Vlad said...
Lego- That sentence about Ann Frank's Ball point pen was phrased badly. The point I was trying to make is that "A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest".* People pick up on that sort of comment and don't bother to research any further.
- Vlad said...
What is your "race"?
Have you had paternal and maternal DNA tests done? You would be surprised at what you might find.
- Heinz said...
My father was in Monwitz in 1944 to do repairs after the industrial facilities were bombed by the Allies. Monowitz is located next to Auschwitz. It employed concentration camp inmates for labor. Not a single inmate that my father befriended ever mentioned gas chambers at Auschwitz. Go figure.
The lobby that told us Sadam was armed to the teeth with WMD is the same that gave us the Zyklon-B gas chambers.
- treblinka said...
File this:
After the war Churchill, Truman, FDR, Stalin, Eisenhower, Pope Pius XII, and DeGaulle had various books published about the war.
More than 20,000 pages in total.
Not even one sentence on gas chambers. opps.
The holocaust story got legs when books like NIGHT came out in 1956 and talked of big ditches at auschwitz where Nazi's would toss in Jews, to be burned alive.
Well, Elie had some bad luck there in that tale. The water table at auschwitz is 30 CM. Try digging a 10 foot ditch when you reach water at 1 foot.
Once that myth died and the electrocution myth died, and the steam chamber myth died, and Jews being fed to bears and eagles ( no joke) myth died, the gas chamber myth was the only thing left.
It helped that the Russains sealed off Poland to investigators, so nobody could ever examine Auschwitz, Treblinka, Belsac, Sobibor or Chelmno.
For the truthseeker, the International Red Cross updated the total death count from ALL camps in 1979 and 1983.
combined total of all races and creeds is 282,000.
The ground at treblinka has been searched with RADAR and it is undistrubed. So much for the 870,000 bodies buried there.
The Holocaust rests upon hearsay and a few piles of shoes and hair.
No orders,
No photos,
No poison gas in 500 autopsies
no Fuel to burn 870,000 bodies
No ashes
No evidence form declassified CIA photos of camps.
and worst of all, the fact is the US ARMY broke the CODE at auschwitz. There were no secrets, that is why the US ARMY never bothered with the stories put out by the RED DIAPER BABIES about gas chambers. They knew it was all lies.
How did Elie wiesel forget to mention GAS CHAMBERS in his 1956 book. He was in Auschwitz. opps. Time for some lie detector tests !
- Concern said...
Mr. Plutchak,
This story put forth by your staff writer Ms. Lenz is reckless and irresponsible. You are not commenting on history, nor are you provoking your readers to explore a different point of view. You chose to write this story to inflame passions and gain a slight boost in your circulation. Mr. Junker has the right to say and think what he wants, but you don't have to print it. Your story has attracted the attention of the violent, lunatic fringe of our society not just locally, but nation wide. This is the last thing that this community needs. Interestingly enough, Ms. Lenz contemplated the appropriateness of printing this story in her piece. This tells me that your decision to move forward was not arbitrary, but deliberate. I hope in the future you chose to use your publication with greater integrity and a sense of community responsibility. Otherwise you should stick to writing about church socials, brownie recipes, and the Beast of Bray road. It's what you are best at.
- treblinka said...
What is wrong with bringing such stories in the open. the man is a eyewitness, and his version of events is not influenced by money or a book or a job as a professor at some college.
Hence, that gives it far more credibility than someone writing a book as a H survivor and babbling on how wild bears raised them, or how their entire family was machine gunned by Nazis while they hid under a couch and survived.
www.judicial-inc.biz has plenty of stories one more bizarre than the next.
- Timothy said...
I appreciate the story that this man believed enough to come forward on. I am someone that cares more about the person, than the message that they are standing on. I think that the former is the most important point.
Hmm. I'm almost sorry to bring up "the Jesus" point, because I know there will be a few who will give me flack for it. However, as someone who believes whole heartedly that "the Jesus" point is the most important point, I am prone to go with the same perspective as I think he would.
I think we all need to care about each other, even when we don't think that another's logic is sound. After all, what is important? What we believed about a past man who most likely killed others for their beliefs, or what we believe about the people that are around us and how we have cared for them regardless of 'thier' perspectives?
I know the latter is hard. I don't claim to do it without being unhappy with someone at times. But, because I do believe in a God that has overlooked a whole lot of things that I have thought (and done), I do pour myself out in order to give the same care for others that I have been given.
- Vlad said...
Dear Thinker:
You said:
"If you are talking about people dying outside of normal war activities, sure the Germans killed Jews, but what makes them more special than anyone else?"
They aren't more special than anyone else-but the sheer numbers of innocent people forced into a situation with no chance for survival is staggering. Many Europeans lost their country, history, property and assets, but they were not subjected to slave labor as inmates. The number of Allied and Axis civilians that died are also staggering. The numbers and details of most wars are staggering. The American civil war death toll is breathtaking. This is something that makes me sad to be a human being at times.
My mother was from Kongsberg and the idea that more civilians died there from the allied bombings there than all American soldiers in Vietman is staggering. All of these situations in the world are special, the Jews are just one of many. I believe that holocaust denial comes from a deep feeling of shame and guilt. This eventually turns into denial. Incompetent parents do this all the time. It's human nature. The Turks deny the Armenian holocaust the Spanish deny the inquisition. Who wants to have that kind of thing hanging over ones head?
You said:
" How many German civilians and prisoners of war died after 1945 in Siberia and of course in the so called prisoner of war camps in Germany. If you have tried looking at both sides aof the war you will realise that they estimate about 7 million Germans. ..why is such a fuss made of Jewish deaths and nothing of anyone else. War is indecent and no side is without faults in war."
I totally agree with that last sentence. No side is without fault but we can't look at the Germans, the Jews, the Turks, the Russians etc as being culpable as a group. Makes it too easy to vilify them. We never find war indecent when we all are busy saber rattling and droning on about glory and how God is on our side and all that crap. In the end when we are sorting through the rubble, counting the dead and trying to figure out how to care for the wounded then we see it clearly and count casualties. In some ways maybe the people killed were the lucky ones. If I was separated from my family, put in an internment camp and my mother, father, sister, or brother died of whatever in one of these camps-I would have a hard time living with that loss. Even if they survived, not knowing is emotional torture.
I have an aunt whose family was sent to Siberia from Latvia. First, they lived in shelters that they dug into the ground, later they had a son who was educated by the Soviets as a violinist. Go figure? When my uncle died, my aunt (then 71) was allowed to return to Riga. She was not a fan of communists but she likes Russians.
Now if I had to decide who to blame for all the bad things that happened to my family, I would have to hate Russians, Germans, Latvians, Jews, the British and Americans etc. How exactly does that help anything? In reality the people that happen to bear these ethnic descriptions are just like the rest of us. To me that's the beauty of America. You get to experience many cultures. Exposure to ethnic diversity takes away the mystique that we often build up in our minds about "the other" , if we let it.
My father used to say that it was so odd to have lost his history, so I started looking things up for him. One book in particular was written by a Latvian born English professor from Whitewater called A Woman in Amber. It really filled in the gaps of the stories I heard growing up, and reflected some of his own experience including the difficulty that came with being torn between loyalties to ethnic groups that once were a normal part of life and suddenly became the enemy. Once I stated searching I found many histories dealing with all these situations too. These sources flesh out the story behind the basic historical facts and put the situation in perspective. Do an Amazon search for films and books you'll be surprised. I have also read some the revisionist histories they don't hold up to scrutiny.
You said:
"How much has really been written or where are the Museums, movies etc on Russian crimes against their own people and for that matter against Jews.Where are the movies or museums for German or Japanese civiians killed in Firebomb raids. Surely everybody suffered and deserves some recognition."
I believe that they do. Authors like W.G. Sebald and Alfred-Maurice de Zayas write of these times. Sebald's essays appear in major American magazines-like The New Yorker, which some people here would spurn as Jewish media. In fact, the reviews of Hitler's Willing Executioners that appeared in the New Yorker and in the Atlantic Monthly were not favorable to Goldhagen's research or conclusions. Filmmakers like Wim Wenders, Rainer Werner Fassbinder, Werner Herzog and Volker Schlöndorff have long been making films that deal with these issues. More come out all the time. Russia is more difficult because it is still a Communist government, but many authors that defect also write.
You said:
"3 -have you really done research from both sides of the war. Can you say you have read at least a quarter the amount of books on the other side of WWII than you have on the more accepted side?"
I believe I have. In fact, I have probably read more books from the other side, as an immigrant from Germany and an American child I knew that what I learned in school skimmed over what I heard at home. The stereotypes shown on TV and in films or the 50's and 60's and the perceptions that many of my classmates and friends had of Germans did not reflect my reality-or anyone I knew. The perception that my family was genetically programmed to be anti-Semitic and inherently evil was something I needed to understand. I'd like to have denied it-it's hard to look at your parents and wonder what they did in the war and if they were being truthful. I wanted to get the big picture.
Once you've read the books and seen the films created by one side, it's even more interesting to read and see the films created by the others. "Das Boot" was probably the first film like this I saw.
You said:
"4-Looks like you are not aware of people being imprisoned for questioning the accepted view of the Holocaust. Eventually it is just history, a really bad part of history but what other historical event is protected by law in some countries. Surely history should be open to investigation and debated in the open."
It should be, I believe the advent of the Internet, and foreign travel brings information that most of us normally never would have known existed.
You said:
"Surely you realise you have something like wartime propaganda, how do you clear up what is truth and what not. Now people questioning some of the aspects of the Holocast are being locked up in jail. Shouldn't their be something like freedom of speech so anything can be discussed openly."
I don't believe that's a good idea anymore, but that does not exist in America, In other countries such as Germany these laws exist out of fear of history repeating itself. I see this sort of repression as lifting now that the WW II generation is dying out. One can see it in the work of newer filmakers and authors
You said:
"Or you think the war in Iraq is wrong. You get deported to the USA and get thrown in jail for insinuating that Iraqis were killed or murdered by US troops. This is basically what is happening to some people"
You are deported if you lied or omitted information on immigration documents. What you say is not regulated by the government, it is regulated by the society around you. Mr. Junker can say what he likes but that does not mean that his neighbors and others will like it. They are also free to express this. Societies police themselves in this very all the time. This sort of societal pressure is one of the factors leading to the rise of Nazism. It is also one of the ugly sides of society that make me fear for the safety of Mt Junker and his family.
- truthinator said...
>>It helped that the Russains sealed off Poland to investigators, so nobody could ever examine Auschwitz, Treblinka, Belsac, Sobibor or Chelmno.
For the truthseeker, the International Red Cross updated the total death count from ALL camps in 1979 and 1983.
combined total of all races and creeds is 282,000.
The ground at treblinka has been searched with RADAR and it is undistrubed. So much for the 870,000 bodies buried there.
The Holocaust rests upon hearsay and a few piles of shoes and hair.
No orders,
No photos,
No poison gas in 500 autopsies
no Fuel to burn 870,000 bodies
No ashes
No evidence form declassified CIA photos of camps.
and worst of all, the fact is the US ARMY broke the CODE at auschwitz. There were no secrets, that is why the US ARMY never bothered with the stories put out by the RED DIAPER BABIES about gas chambers. They knew it was all lies.
How did Elie wiesel forget to mention GAS CHAMBERS in his 1956 book. He was in Auschwitz. opps. Time for some lie detector tests!<<
Time for some idiots-with-brain-damage tests. There are 6 million names inscribed on the memorials at Holocaust Museums in Yad Vashem (Jerusalem), Wahsington, D.C., and Houston, Texas. They are not fictional names. These were living, breathing human beings who never were reunited with surviving family members after they were "disappeared" from their homes.
You fools who defend the Hitler-lover and think the Holocoast is made up hooey just need to go through a similar experience and I suspect you then would recover the balance of your brain functioning.
Rest assured Germany wouldn't have paid out a gazillion dollars in reparations to Israel to make restitution for a bogus, fabricated story about mass genocide.
Get a life, cretins.
- Vlad said...
This is part of the other side of that story:
..."But what in fact of the so-called official figures of the Red Cross? They never existed, a fact clearly illustrated in a letter dated 17th August 1955 from the head of the Information Department of the Comite International de la Croix Rouge to the director of the Institute of Contemporary History. In this letter it reads:" We are unable to procure statistical data regarding the loss of military personnel or deportees, since it is not incumbent upon the International Committee of the Red Cross to engage in such statistical reporting". The letter ends: "As you can see from this lengthy explanation, the figures published in the German weekly magazine do not stem from any information provided by the International Committee of the Red Cross."
Needless to say this official denial by the International Red Cross in Geneva had little effect. Ten years later right-wing extremists referred again to the figures of the Red Cross in an open letter to Cardinal Döpfner, the then Catholic Archbishop of Munich, the letter later appearing in the newsletter of the right-wing extremist NPD party. Once again the International Committee distanced itself emphatically from this falsification of facts by writing:" We would like to make unambivalently clear that the Geneva based International Committee of the Red Cross has nothing whatsoever to do with these claims. The statistical data relating to losses sustained through war and the victims of political, racial or religious persecution do not fall into our area of jurisdiction and have never done so". Wolfgang Benz
- treblinka said...
Spare me the whinning.
build a museum and put 20,000,000
names on the wall. Is that some kind of proof ?
Of course not.
the fact is there is no proof of mass murder at Treblinka, reportedly the second biggest death camp, a whopping 22 acres, and 4 buildings.
That alone is enough to make a normal person ask, why so small.
well, it was a transit camp, a place where folks changed trains for further travel.
If you visit a average train station today, it might also be about 20 acres in size.
Germar rudolf has written several excellent books that clearly prove beyond any doubt 95% of the Holcaust legend is pure invention.
Read the book, THE FIRST HOLOCAUST , and you will see the EXACT same claims being made in 1919 about the ww1 " holocaust" are the same as being made today.
The promoters back then even used the same figures, 6,000,000 being killed by those big bad Germans.
This is the reason the promoters are working overtime to outlaw any Holocaust investigations or questions.
It is mostly a finacial scam and it is falling apart faster today then ever.
- treblinka said...
Try reading this once more; The Holocaust became a money maker and a club to silence critics of Israel, post 1978, and since then has taken on a life of its own.
the real Holocasut is taking place in Palestine and the victims are 2,000,000 palestinians. the modern day killers are called the IDF. Israel Defense Force. They make SS men look like saints.
File this:
After the war Churchill, Truman, FDR, Stalin, Eisenhower, Pope Pius XII, and DeGaulle had various books published about the war.
More than 20,000 pages in total.
Not even one sentence on gas chambers. opps.
The holocaust story got legs when books like NIGHT came out in 1956 and talked of big ditches at auschwitz where Nazi's would toss in Jews, to be burned alive.
Well, Elie had some bad luck there in that tale. The water table at auschwitz is 30 CM. Try digging a 10 foot ditch when you reach water at 1 foot.
Once that myth died and the electrocution myth died, and the steam chamber myth died, and Jews being fed to bears and eagles ( no joke) myth died, the gas chamber myth was the only thing left.
It helped that the Russains sealed off Poland to investigators, so nobody could ever examine Auschwitz, Treblinka, Belsac, Sobibor or Chelmno.
For the truthseeker, the International Red Cross updated the total death count from ALL camps in 1979 and 1983.
combined total of all races and creeds is 282,000.
The ground at treblinka has been searched with RADAR and it is undistrubed. So much for the 870,000 bodies buried there.
The Holocaust rests upon hearsay and a few piles of shoes and hair.
No orders,
No photos,
No poison gas in 500 autopsies
no Fuel to burn 870,000 bodies
No ashes
No evidence form declassified CIA photos of camps.
and worst of all, the fact is the US ARMY broke the CODE at auschwitz. There were no secrets, that is why the US ARMY never bothered with the stories put out by the RED DIAPER BABIES about gas chambers. They knew it was all lies.
How did Elie wiesel forget to mention GAS CHAMBERS in his 1956 book. He was in Auschwitz. opps. Time for some lie detector tests !
- treblinka said...
There is a valid reason why folks on these forums will not address ANY issue of the Holocaust.
It is not enough to claim the Holocasut happened as alleged becasue aunty Jane told someone
she heard a uncle talk about seeing folks enter a gas chamber.
Keep in mind no physical evidence
of a gas chamber was EVER seen or found. Auschwitz was a model built AFTER the war, something that was kept from tourists until recently.
There are no plans of a gas chamber, no photos, no blueprints, no knowledge of the existence of gas chambers by the firm who installed the crematoriums to Auschwitz.
We just need to believe the people who tell us they were there, and have written a book or to on it.
So gas chambers were built and installed and used 24 /7 and then diappeared.
along with 15,000,000 pounds of bones from Treblinka.
And 90,000,000 pounds of bones from auschwitz.
Those Germans are amazing.
- truthinator said...
People worked for years, scraping together the money and support to build these museums. They cost millions of dollars to build. Name a comparable endeavor to spend enormous sums of money and create elaborate monuments to fallen citizens of earth. It defies common sense and rational thought to think that perpetrators of a hoax could achieve such a thing.
I lost family in the holocaust, and I have borne witness to the pain of surviving relatives.
My father fought in world War II to preserve the freedoms that make it possible for fools like "Treblinka" to spout their drivel in this media outlet.
How it pains me to see a name that symoblizes so many murdered souls taken by one who mocks their sacrifice, a sacrifice that should at least serve as a way to educate and change the world for the better.
"Treblinka", I am sad for the way you must have been despised by your own family, but you will not fill the hole in your heart by sadistically gouging the wounds of others in an effort to console yourself.
You simply will die alone, unconsoled, the miserable wretch that you are.
- treblinka said...
The facts are that the origins of the holocaust were known as far back as 1915. It was hatched in NYC and endured until 1927, after raising about $200,000,00. In 1927 word began to leak out the story behind the 6,000,000 dying in Europe was largely a myth and the campaigns came to a halt.
The 1926 campaign raised $62,000,000 mostly from Catholics and protestants in America.
the idea that 6,000,000 victims died was a number arrived at after the war, is also bunk. It was already in circulation well before the end of hostilities at a time when such numbers would be impossible for anyone to know.
Hence 6,000,000 is not valid.
Based on migrations patterns that have been examined.It has been estimated by some that in 1933 there were 5,800,000 Jews in europe. as many as 2,000,000 came to america and canada from 1933-1945, mostly illegally, as mexicans today come.
up to 1,500,000 were shipped to Russia and most died there.
up to 1,000,000 went to other places like Paelstine, Australia etc...
about 1,000,000 remained in poland Germany etc...
About 300,000 died in the ordeal of World war 2, mostly from typhus and starvation due to allied bombings.
Regardless of the exact migration patterns that took hold from 1933-1945, the facts are the forensic evidence refutes any notion of 6,000,000 killed.
- euwho said...
Dear ones - all!,
Do you think we can agree to disagree with respect and in honorable tones of language?
America is spoken of as "The land of free speech" - really?
Mr. Junker's work he has assigned himself has a purpose to which i can partly agree and partly disagree, i believe. Can we as possibly "Free and open minds" in "this land of the free" see both sides of every person, event and issue? Or, do Humans generally get stuck in only one viewpoint? Enjoy the ride! Whatever you are given to choose, i respect it, even though i may respectfully disagree!
Could Mr. Junkers work be part of a greater flow, i ask that will have to be done and is being done to heal our Human past?
Have you forgiven, 100%,
Hitler for his actions he
did in history?
Individually and collec-tively, i believe, it must be done by all Humans to leave the past eventually behind and live a future untarnished with the past. It was a "Judas Job" that i would not have wanted to do in this lifetime but someone had to do it to teach us all something.
What have you learned from the "Hitler adventure" that so many Humans played a part in creating?
Can we all promise, "Never again!" and make our promise stick and bless all Humans? Please....
- treblinka said...
Ad hominem insults are the weakest form of debate. What does that say about those who use them.
The ordeals of world war 2 are no different than any other war.
all war is ugly and brutal.
Does a person become a scum bag if they believe 200,000 innocent iraqi's died in the immoral and unjust invasion of that country by the Neo-Cons / Red Diaper Babies/ Trotskyites in power
today in America, as opposed to 100,000.
The definition of delusion is this: To hold on to a belief in the face of invalidating evidence.
If plastering a few names on a building equals proof of something, then I can plaster 100 names on a wall, proclaim to the world these were relatives who died at the hands of the Israeli terrorists in 1948 when they invaded Deir Yassum village in Palestinan and murdered 248 children and women, and then call those who do not believe, a scum bag, and anti-Semite.
- truthinator said...
Employing invented "data" that contradicts the accepted reality of billions of people in hundreds of nations is the lamest form of
intellectualizing plain old venemous Jew-hating.
Perhaps you believe so passionately in your "evidence" that you would be willing to blow yourself up on a bus full of Jewish school children then, eh "Treblinka?"
Do the world a favor... feel free to blow yourself up. Just do it alone.
- treblinka said...
A commom saying in medical school
still seems valid after all these years: ignorance is curable, but stupidity is forever.
If there was one corpse that was found to have Zyklon-B in it , that fact would be plastered on every single door of every museum in the world.
If one document could be found that ordered the murder of Jews, that document would be in every museum.
If one document could be found
that proved gas chambers were built, installed and used for killing others, such evidence would be front and center in every museum.
But these proofs do not exist, because the facts are at odds with the legend.
What is offered are piles of hair and shoes , proving that folks got their head shaved and were given a uniform and new shoes.
If mass graves really did exist at places like auschwhich? Treblinka or Belsac
there would be non stop teams digging at these sites until every bone was recovered.
Placing huge stones over the ground to prevent such research
is hardly respecing the dead.
That is not what the USA did when two towers were leveled by thermite charges on 9/11.
They sought all the remains.
Why not search the grounds ?
Because there is nothing there. And if that news becomes common currency, the story of the holocaust implodes.
- Vlad said...
After my Dad died I was cleaning out his papers and found and envelope of old letters. It was in a file of my grandmothers papers. The letters were from Ravensbruck Concentration Camp from a girl named Maud Libis, to a man in Hamburg named Paul-Israel Hirsch. There were also several letters in French to this man postmarked Belgium.
This was a mystery so I started researching finally writing letters to various sources to find out more. I won't go into the whole story but I did manage to piece much of the story together.
The camp sent me copies of her records which verified her family as the same ones that I found on the Shoah site. Maud was from Hamburg and apparently was being protected in Belgium. She spent 3 years at Ravensbruck. From the sound of her letters-which were censored in spots-it was not a pleasant place.
The letters were all on camp stationary, Hitler stamps, written in pencil. Bornstrasse 22 is also a signifigant building to Hamburg Jews. Mauds parents are memorialized in Hamburg as they did not survive and these death records exist in one of camp registers. This is a translation of one of the postcards
sent by her guardian from Belgium. It seems that she was sent there after her grandfather, mother and aunts disappeared.
Jean Boon
31 Avenue de Mersch
Arlon, Belgium
Monsieur et Madame Paul Walter Israel Hirsch
Bornstrasse 22
Hamburg 13
Dear Madame and Monsieur Hirsch,
I recieved your card of 13/8/43 and thank you for it. I assume you have also recieved mine. Unfortunatly I could not recieve other news of Maud since them. She had to leave Maline with other Israelites to an undisclosed destination. I did all that I could to know this destination but with no result. Alas, Mrs. Jamsin, who I also know, will not give me the address of the Uncle of Maud in Brussels. I have been a long time absent from home for reasons I will explain you later.About Maud I will still try to obtain information, but I am well afraid it will not be good. I have so much sorrow for all that. I hope that in your home all are in good health.
For you to read, Madame and Monsieur Hirsch, the best feelings of you,
Jean Boon
As far as I'm concerned evidence like this tells me that these names have not been made up. Maud survived as did Mr Hirsch since he was taken to on a transport at this time which explains why he wasn't answering her letter:
Letter to:
Paul Walter Hirsch
Bornstrasse 22
Hamburg Germany
In protective custody: Maud Libis
Number: 23179 Block: 3 lib c
Women's Concentration camp
Ravensbruck Furstenberg b/ Meckelen
(Printed at the top of the stationary)
Rules of the camp:
Every prisoner can receive and send 1 letter a month. Letters must be no more than 2 pages or 15 lines and will be overseen. They must be readable and postmarked, the sign off must contain first name, surname, birthday and haftlingsnumber however no report. money or photos and enclosures in letters are forbidden. Post will not be accepted that does not meet these requirements unreadable letters will be destroyed. In the camp everything can be bought. National socialist newspapers are available. However the concentration camps prisoner must order them. Packages may be received at any time.
Dear Family Hirsch; February 1945
I am surprised that I haven't heard from you this month. Did you receive my 2 letters? How is the Hirsch family? Are you still working? I am doing well (deleted sentence) I am so unhappy that I have not received news from our loved ones. I am waiting for my birthday package I hope it arrives soon. Otherwise I have nothing new to report. I hope this letter finds the family Hirsch healthy. Please write to me soon. Many loving greetings from
Your Maud
By that time Mauds loved ones had been dead for 4 years according to the Shoah site.
There is no way in hell that this is a hoax. I spent days translating from German and French reseaching this, trying to get this story together
So yes these people are very real.
- treblinka said...
We can all agree folks were placed into concentration camps.
We can all agree many died there.
St. Edith Stein died at Bergen- Belsen from Tyhpus.
We can all agree war is hard and many innocent people of all ethnic groups, Jews included, died. Although as a ethnic group Jews accounted for less than 2% of World War 2 deaths.
The isuue is whether Hitler signed orders to kill Jews. No
Whether he put Jews in gas chambers - no
And whether 6,000,000 died.
That is the trinity of lies upon which the Holocaust is built and there is no forensic evidence to prove it happened.
You have dodged every single fact I have offered as hard proof that the Holocasut is in fact, a legend blown out of all proportion.
Anyone today can buy holocaust letters on the net, because letter writing was allowed in auschwitz, as was swimming, soccer, opera, chapel ,library, pottery classes, etc...
Exactly the sort of things one would build in a death camp where 10,000 got gassed each day in 5 tiny ovens.
The holocaust: falling apart faster than a cheap suit.
- truthinator said...
You attempt to reason with "Treblinka" with facts. You don't understand this fellow. His is the type of narcissism that declares, "My mind is made up, and I won't let you confuse me with a bunch of facts."
For example, he wishes us to know that he attended medical school. (As of course did Zawahiri, Bin Laden's numnber 2.) This not-so-subtle reference is to make clear to us his superior brain.
However, if we could do a SPECT scan of his brain, be assured we would find an overactive cingulate gyrus. If he truly is a physician, he will understand what I just said.
There is a medicine that possibly could help him, but "physician heal thyself" is a phrase that by definition doesn't penetrate his type of pathology.
Don't waste your breath on him. You have more important things to do with your time and many other people you can reach who are in touch with reality.
But pray for his patients, if he really does treat human beings. They are in serious jeopardy.
- truthinator said...
You attempt to reason with "Treblinka" with facts. You don't understand this fellow. His is the type of narcissism that declares, "My mind is made up, and I won't let you confuse me with a bunch of facts."
For example, he wishes us to know that he attended medical school. (As of course did Zawahiri, Bin Laden's numnber 2.) This not-so-subtle reference is to make clear to us his superior brain.
However, if we could do a SPECT scan of his brain, be assured we would find an overactive cingulate gyrus. If he truly is a physician, he will understand what I just said.
There is a medicine that possibly could help him, but "physician heal thyself" is a phrase that by definition doesn't penetrate his type of pathology.
Don't waste your breath on him. You have more important things to do with your time and many other people you can reach who are in touch with reality.
But pray for his patients, if he really does treat human beings. They are in serious jeopardy.
- Vlad said...
These letters weren't bought on the net-They belonged to my grandmother who died in the 1970s.
Hitler personally? no. Geroge Bush never killed a terrorist or an Iraqi civilian either.
My question is-What does this denial prove? I sincerely want to know. Why all the sound and fury over these details? If we agree that these things happened why is it so important to prove these specific points?
I am also interested in how you interpret this quote. This is from a speech.:
"Today I will once more be a prophet: if the international Jewish financiers in and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war, then the result will not be the Bolshevizing of the earth, and thus the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe!"
Adolf Hitler - January 30, 1939
- Vlad said...
Truthinator- I suspect that you're right. I just have this need to understand what this is. I think I know but I could be wrong. Maybe there's something I'm missing. Quite frankly 6 million or 250.000 human beings is too too much.
- Vlad said...
Hmmmm-A Doctor eh? Maybe Mengele really is still alive. :-)
- JSD said...
Im glad this old man has made so many people feel good and smug about themselves. Of course Im guessing that 90% of the posters here don't know anything about ww2 other than what they have seen in Saving Private Ryan and Scheindlers List.
Personaly I have more respect for a Waffen SS vet than a liberal yuppie loser. At least this old man had the guts to put his life on the line for what he belived in. Yeah most posters here would say but he is a "racist" or "nationilist". Well once you people start saying the same thing about African Nationilist or Mexican Nationilist that live in America you have no right to talk. Im guessing alot of the more liberal posters think that the U.S. "stole" the South West from Mexico but then condemn Hitler for invading Poland and reuniting Germany. You are hypocrits. By the way France and England declared war on Germany for invading Poland. Russia also invaded Poland, why didn't France England declare war on Russia to?
- Joachim said...
If the Allies lied about the Dachau gas chamber, Katyn massacre, shrunken heads, human skin lampshades, human made soap, and light swithes made from thumbs, isn't it possible they also lied about the 6 million and the Auschwitz gas cambers? Or how about the A-Bomb the Germans were supposed to have blown up at a concentration camp to get rid of some Jews according to a claim by Chief US Prosecutor Jackson at the IMT when cross examining Albert Speer?
What about the Treblinka camp where those terrible Nazis were claimed to have steamed people to death, suffocated them in vacuum chambers, poisoned them with diesel exhaust, and finally electrocuted them.
Is it possible the Exterminationalists haven't got their story straight or are just downright liars?
Don't get too upset just wondering.
- Joachim said...
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- Joachim said...
The most conclusive proof we have that the 6 million and the gas chambers are a lie is that anyone who questions this fable is thrown in jail in Europe, excluding the UK and Italy.
"Lies are upheld by the power of government truth stands on its own." Thomas Jefferson Third US President.
- treblinka said...
I suggest folks do search on gaggle
and type in the words Benjamin Freedman, who was a zionist defector. He explains what is really behind the attacks on Germany, and the Palestinians.
It seems to me a few are on board here who twist everything that honest people post and spin it differently.
To those who say , what difference does it make if it was 6 million or 2 million. Well, that is 4 million and saying 2 million could be a jail term in europe.
Keep in mind some tarot card reader in Russia in the mid 1800's predicted the Jews will get a homeland after 6 million suffer holocaust.
Therefore, invent a holocaust and take a land by stealing it from others and presto , new homeland.
Between 700 B.C. and 1950 a.d. the jews spent less than 100 years in the region of Palestine. The arabs spent 2600 years in the region.
They have no right to be there. They have stolen the land by murder and their specialty, bombings.
But worst of all, the present people who are killing the palestinians are Asisatic Khazars from Russia, who have no semetic blood at all. They are from Russia and are not now or ever actually have been Jews.
2 million Russian Khazars migrated to America in 1904.
Such folks are the ones who turned Russia into a drunk tank by producing vodka and selling it on credit , 30% interest, to farmers who in turn lost most of thier wealth to the vodka makers as they could not pay off the loans.
These are the same folks who cry holocaust and then extort millions for that cause. spare the the whine.
- treblinka said...
There is a DVD that people can buy on the net, that was made by David Cole, and it proves the Auschwitz tale is full of holes.
The JDL made a plea for folks to turn over his home address to them, and after that he made a public retraction, but it is obvious he feared for his life.
He is a atheist, but wore a skull cap on his visit to the camp to deflect any susupicions people might have about his questions.
This DVD proves that auschwitz was indeed a post world war 2 creation as far as the gas chambers exhibit.
The swimming pool is still there, and can be seen via a gaggle search today.
The official story is Zyklon-B was dropped in from the roof, but the fact is the holes in the roof were put there by Russians after the war.
We know this becasue each week American planes flew over Auschwitz and took pictures.
Those were secret until 1979.
That is when the wall of AWE about the holocaust started to melt.
Furthmore these photos prove there were no crematories belching black smoke 24/7.
These photos prove there were no long lines of folks going to gas chambers.
They show what you would expect in a camp where work is performed.
My neighbor is a ukrainian who spent time in Auschwitz. Her only complaints are the food was not good and it was cold at night and they had just one blanket.
When I ask about 10,000 people lined up to go to gas chamber, she says those are pure lies. Most of the guards were prisoners themselves, not SS. The guards were often very mean.
She worked 5 and one half days and had Saturday afternoons and Sunday as free time.
She worked in the materity ward of the Hospital, as more than 3,000 babies were born in Auschwitz.
- RJ said...
Anonymous said...
I spent one half hour of my time on Mr. Junker, and that was to report him to the proper authorities in Washington. [...] Let the courts deal with him. He not worthy of any more of my time.
Would you spend half an hour of your time reporting suspected illegal immigrants to the authorities in Washington? You know, among the Hispanic community in Wisconsin, almost 50% are here illegally.
Such a use of your time might actually help protect us from dangerous people rather than picking on elderly men who have lived here for half a century peacefully and as law-abiding citizens.
- RJ said...
Anonymous said...
I spent one half hour of my time on Mr. Junker, and that was to report him to the proper authorities in Washington. [...] Let the courts deal with him. He not worthy of any more of my time.
Would you spend half an hour of your time reporting suspected illegal immigrants to the authorities in Washington? You know, among the Hispanic community in Wisconsin, almost 50% are here illegally.
Such a use of your time might actually help protect us from dangerous people rather than picking on elderly men who have lived here for half a century peacefully and as law-abiding citizens.
- treblinka said...
It is bizarre tha so many people hold a grudge agasinst the German people and officers, who were only defending their nation from attacks by British and American forces.
It is ecomonmic hate in my opinion, since Hitler wrecked all sorts of profitable businesses run by russian Khazars in Germany post 1933.
This was done to prevent Germany from being overun by revolutionaries, who had casued so much death in Russia.
While it is a bit of a reach to call Hitler great, like Franco, who was a great leader and restored Spain to her glory, it must be accepted that Hitler did great things for the Germans, and had he slightly better advice he might have restored the German empire as he sought. And that is all he sought, to restore Germany to her place as she as before Poland stole much of the land from her.
The fact he tried to get the revolutionaries out of town, was not a war crime.
The fact Typhus killed so many, is a shame, but not a war crime.
- Vlad said...
I ask again:
In 20 words or less:
What does this denial prove?
- Dan Plutchak, editor said...
We'll wrap up adding new comments to this blog post Friday afternoon.
I've added a new post to my editor's blog (http://www.theweekextra.com/blogs/editor) for comments on Sunday's edition.
I'll use a moderated format for that one to encourage comments directly related to how we've covered the news or how the news affects us here in Walworth County.
~Dan Plutchak, editor
- Catamont said...
I juse wonder how this man, an admitted SS soldier, was permitted to emigrate to the US in the first place?
- nunya b said...
Looked up the tax records for the property and he has changed it to JHGKL, LLC so his family will not have to pay for any damages. I am assuming that his "business" name consists of the first initial of his last name, his wife's first initial and his kids' first inital. Pretty clever to make sure he can get away with what he has done without actually getting in trouble for it by doing it as a business. He probably lied about his entrance papers too. Well only in America. I think he should go to Germany and try doing this. Especially right after the war. Now that would have been courage...stupidity, but courage.
- said...
Thomas Jefferson said "The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus by the Supreme Being in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter", its now 50 years on from the events being discussed and as the first hand witnesses of the atrocities committed by Adolf Hitler and his SS troops perish my greatest fear is that deluded men like Ted Junker of Miller and other neo-nazis will convince even one more person that the holocaust did not happen, effectively spitting on 6 million Jewish graves. This is not a case of people being misinformed, this is a case of millions of refugees, split across a nation integrating themselves throughout the world after the events and telling one story.
- said...
This goof better get help. So was Cho, keep your eye on this nut.
- said...
This guy is completely insane...
- said...
Junkers is a man living in delusion.
He is one man who really is a good believer of lies.
Imagine, calling wartime photos of Auschwitz and Dachau as Hollywood.
He is very insensitive.
- said...
This man disgusts me. I am appalled that he is in my country. He is mental case!!!
- said...
After reading some of these responses, I feel like crying.
I am so disgusted and saddened that there are people (today...AMERICANS?) who can even remotely approve of this man and what he stands for.
You are sick, and pity your souls as much as I pity his.... truly.
- said...
All the people who believe in what this clown stand for, may i ask if there is such 'compelling' evidence towards the fact that masses of people were NOT brutally murdered in concentration camps, just merely deported and such. How did they die?
Go to a holocaust museum or a memorial and take a good hard look at yourselves. Whatever so called 'good' Hiltler provided for his country, is shadowed by his horrible acts of shame.
Would you see your family and friends put to death or 'deported' for the greater good of America? i dont think so.