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Good read on the whole salary cap situation... damn, being a GM is a pain in the ass.
Anyways, What I understand from this is, the two key players this off-season salary cap-wise are Landry Fields and Jeremy Lin... more-so Jeremy Lin, but if they don't get too greedy, Grunwald will have a much easier time this off-season with more cap space I didn't even know were available to us.
The Knicks are currently $5.6 million under the league-mandated $58.044 million salary cap. (On July 1, if the cap stays the same, which it likely will, they will be $5.65 million over.) Currently, the main players under contract for next season include: Carmelo Anthony, Amare Stoudemire, Tyson Chandler, Iman Shumpert and Toney Douglas. In addition, J.R. Smith has a player option of $2.443 million, Josh Harrellson has a team option of $762,195, Jerome Jordan has a non-guaranteed salary of $762,195 and while Renaldo Balkman cleared waivers this past season, he's still owed some salary that counts against the cap. The team's restricted free agents are Jeremy Lin and Landry Fields, and the unrestricted pool includes: Steve Novak, Baron Davis, Jared Jeffries, Mike Bibby, Bill Walker and Dan Gadzuric.
Looking ahead to the offseason, the key moves for the team include Smith's opt in or out, potentially re-signing Fields, using their mid-level exception of about $3 million (taxpayer) or of about $5 million (non-taxpayer), potentially using their bi-annual exception of $1.98 million and then spending a couple of veteran's minimums of $1.4 million each. Their biggest hurdle will be deciding which amount of their mid-level exception to give to Lin.
Here's the full breakdown:
Smith has a player option of $2.443 million for next season, which he can opt out of. The Knicks will know by July 1 if he's going to do so. If he does, that means the team will still be above the cap ($3.157 million), and they won't gain anything. That $2.443 million is not extra money that actually exists in order for the team to sign someone else.
Even if Smith opts out, the Knicks could re-sign him for a 20 percent raise based on his $2.382 million salary from this past season. That's enabled by the Non-Bird Exception, which would put him at $3.097 million for 2012-13. A source told ESPN New York that Smith's father, Earl, is going to make a strong case for his son to stay in New York, but "it's very clear that the money is the biggest factor with him."
In fact, when Smith chose the Knicks over the Clippers in mid-February after coming back from China, a source said the Knicks' higher offer ($2.443 million to the Clippers' $1.4 million veteran's minimum) was the deciding factor because he was financially broke. Therefore, Smith will likely opt out and ask for the 20 percent raise. At that point, the ball will be in the Knicks' court to re-sign Smith, who's already said publicly that he wants to return next season.
During the lockout negotiations, the league wanted additional spending restrictions to be placed on all tax-paying teams. But the players' union managed to wrest one concession in the final labor settlement: those restrictions wouldn't be triggered once a team is above the tax line. As a result, the owners gave teams a little extra breathing room. They defined a point $4 million above the tax line, which they call the "apron," where those restrictions kicked in. With an anticipated $70 million tax level, the apron will come in around $74 million this summer.
One of the restrictions placed on teams above the apron was the smaller mid-level exception of about $3 million, while teams under the apron could have the larger mid-level exception of about $5 million. Since a team above the apron can't offer more than $3 million in a mid-level contract, the converse is also true: a team that offers more than $3 million in a mid-level contract can't subsequently exceed the apron.
The consequences are potentially devastating for teams with payrolls below the apron. If a team spends more than $3 million of its mid-level exception, then the apron becomes a hard cap for the remainder of the season. If you're a General Manager trying to assemble a winning roster, "hard cap" is an ugly, ugly phrase.
Keeping that in mind, the Knicks are in a unique situation regarding their mid-level exception -- and it's all because of Lin, a restricted free agent. While the Knicks can sign him to the non-taxpayer mid-level exception of about $3 million or below, anything above that would create a hard cap. Lin is likely going to demand his maximum of about $5 million for two main reasons: 1.) While he may not have that much basketball value right now, teams will be drawn to bringing Linsanity to their city; and 2.) Because other teams are going to know that the Knicks will be hard-capped if Lin re-signs for $3 million or more, they'll press them to match at about $5 million.
If the Knicks do, they'll still be able to re-sign him because he's a restricted free agent. In fact, because he has that status, the Knicks and Lin could agree to an offer sheet even before other teams bid for his services. And the Knicks can match any number because of the Gilbert Arenas provision, which prevents other teams from offering too much.
Currently, the Knicks are below the apron, so they'll be hoping and praying that Lin signs an offer sheet for $3 million or less. If the Knicks keep Lin at that amount (and they don't use their bi-annual exception), they won't be capped at $74 million, and they can later go above the apron. Therefore, they could make trades that take on lots of additional salary, but they will still have to pay tax if their team salary is above the tax line (no transactions exempt a team from potentially paying tax).
While Lin's agent, Roger Montgomery, will have a fiduciary responsibility to his client to get him the best deal possible, he'll know the eventual suitor will be the Knicks. Therefore, Montgomery could ask Lin to do the Knicks a favor and take $2 million less and sign for about $3 million, in order to give the team salary-cap flexibility. By staying in New York, Lin would be make up the difference off the court by being a hot name in the No. 1 media market. What Montgomery will have to watch out for is the Knicks saying, "Sign with us for $3 million and we'll promise to take care of you later." It's that promise to take care of a player later that gets teams into trouble.
Now, keep this in mind: While the Knicks need to use their mid-level exception to re-sign Lin, they don't have to use it on Lin. They can spend it on anyone. For example, they could let him walk in order to sign unrestricted free agent Steve Nash, who's reportedly going to demand $3 to $5 million per year, or Goran Dragic, who will likely be in the same ballpark.
But, again, anything more than $3 million will set a hard cap on the Knicks. If that happens, they won't have any flexibility to make any offseason or in-season moves (signs, trades, replacing an injured player, etc.) that leaves them above the $74 million threshold. For example, let's say they have a team salary of $68 million after signing Lin, or about $6 million below the hard cap. They could make a trade (provided all other trade rules are satisfied) that adds up to $6 million to their payroll. But they couldn't make a trade that adds $7 million.
Whatever the case, all signs point to Lin being a Knick. As one source familiar with his situation put it, "He's going to be in New York next year regardless, unless they decide they're not going to match him because Nash is going to come in at $5 million or something like that. But Nash is a pipe dream. I think that they keep Lin, just because of his popularity."
As for the length of Lin's contract, the Knicks have the option of making it one to four years. (It could actually be three years with a player option on the fourth.) Teams tend to lock up players who are fairly cheap, but are still a big part of their future and have the potential to progress quickly in only half of that four-year window.
If the Knicks re-sign Lin to the full mid-level exception of about $5 million, that means they'll be hard-capped and only have about $9 million left to spend, which begs the question: Do they want to spend $5 million of that remaining amount on Fields? Even if another team matches the Knicks' offer sheet, they have Early Bird Rights on him, which sets the $5 million ceiling. (In comparison, Lin has Non-Bird Rights rights, which is why the Knicks need to use the mid-level exception to keep him.)
However, if Lin and Fields re-sign for $3 and $5 million, respectively, the Knicks won't be constrained by the hard cap (based on the lower mid-level exception). They can re-sign Fields, secure veteran free agents and make trades to bring in someone who's more expensive. In other words, they can go above the apron.
But, again, it all comes back to that $5 million for Fields, and some insiders just don't see the value there. One source familiar with Fields' situation said, "I doubt Landry's worth $5 million, but you never know. When teams try to sign restricted free agents, they sometimes have to over-pay just in order to make the other team let him go. So I could see Landry getting a bigger deal because of that -- not so much because he's worth that much right now as a basketball player, but because he can walk."
As for the length of Fields' contract, it could be the same as Lin's. Also like Lin, because Fields is a restricted free agent, he and the Knicks could agree to an offer sheet even before other teams bid for his services. In addition, the Knicks can match any salary number because of the Gilbert Arenas provision.
By the way, if you're wondering if the $5 million maximum for Fields can be used for anyone else (like Nash), it can't because of the Early Bird Rights provision. So, again, only the mid-level exception can be used for Lin, Nash or Dragic -- the three most popular picks at starting point guard heading into the summer.
If Shumpert was going to be out until June 30 of next year (based on a doctor's certification), the Knicks could apply for a disabled player exception, which would mean they could sign someone to replace the rookie at his salary. But Shumpert will likely be back on the court in December or January. Keep in mind, however, that if the Knicks were hard-capped (based on the apron), they couldn't use that kind of exception.
The Knicks have a bi-annual exception of $1.98 million, which could be used for Novak, who's an unrestricted free agent. (However, he'll likely demand more because he emerged as the league's best 3-point shooter.) Even if the team re-signs Lin to $3 million or higher, and the $74 million apron becomes a hard cap for them, they'd still have the bi-annual exception. But then they definitely can't go above the apron. Keep in mind that if they spend their bi-annual exception first, they would be capped at the apron -- just like they would if they spent $3 million or more with their mid-level exception.
Currently, the Knicks are about $6 million above the salary cap, which means they're about $9 million under the apron. If Smith opts out and the Knicks don't re-sign him, they'll be about $11.5 million under the apron. If they re-sign Lin for about $5 million, they'll be about $7.5 million under the apron, which would then create the hard cap.
Then, if Fields re-signs for about $5 million as well, the team will only have about $3 million under the apron to spend on three players. Think about that. About $3 million, three players. Veteran minimum's deals could suck that right up.
That mid-level exception is more critical than you ever thought. From the season to the offseason, Lin still remains right at the top of the Knicks' discussion. If you're a fan of the team, you should be rooting for him to sign for $3 million or less.[/CENTER][/U]
Last edited by YuvalNYC; May 14, 2012 at 18:11.
Wow, really informative stuff. Great job.
Lin takes 5mil thats the MLE but we can still sign Fields for 5mil because he is eligible for the same deal as Lin, we cant sign Lin at 5mil then use the Fields 5mil for Nash because only Fields has the right for us to sign him at 5mil
We have to hope Lin takes 3, Landry takes 2 and we have 2mil plus the 1.8 Bi-Annual exception to work with
WOW so it all boils down to Lin!
If he signs and offer sheet anywhere else we are screwed like a Phillips Head!
Does he show loyalty to us and sign for 3 million in hopes that the endorsements even out....or does he take his cake and eat it too and signs for 5 million and gets those endorsements!
Did his injury help or hurt us? It could be helpful if what we saw was just the tip of the iceberg and his value right now is as low as its gonna be....or did we see just enough to get gasssed into putting us in a hard cap situation by getting 5 million?
Here is what we have in our favor....the teams rumored to be after him (so far) are small market teams (Toronto is one of them) and that would kill all future value....I mean Jose Calderon is an All Star if he is on The Knicks,Heat or Lakers, Kevin Love is a household name amongsts guys who follow sports if he is one of those markets as well!
Now the Novak factor!
I do not believe his market is all that high coming off a series where he could not get off more than 1 shot per game! He is the definition of a lights out shooter....but not being able to create his own shot is why I can't see paying him more than a vet minimum!
If Toronto really wants Lin, I'd do the Lin for Calderon deal before he signs an offer sheet, this is about basketball not business if Lin can't take a 2mil pay cut knowing he'll make 10 times more off the court then GTFO
oops accidently posted before I was done w response
J.R. Smith needs to opt in because he is not getting the money, playing time or shot attempts on any other team!
He was the best 3pt shooter in the league last year. Is a solid character guy. And while he was shut down by MIA who gamed hard to shut him down, and he couldn't get any shots off, he actually can create his own shot -- not well, not even average, but he's not totally inept.
If we got him for the 2milly exception it'd be really good value for us, IMO.
I've been saying for over a year to get Goran Dragic. Now his stock might be too high after the numbers he posted after lowry went out.
dog theres no way i can read all that right now. I saw something about Fields, we should trade him
Ok folks this is NOT intended to be a dig at Tyson or whatever, he's probably our least problem, but I'd like to know why he still hasn't developed any kind of post move or jump shot. Even Marcus Camby added a jump shot to his offense. It looked terrible, but he could make it and that's just so important.
Chandler is like a great defensive lineman or linebacker, great on defense but useless on offense. Unfortunately this ain't football. He'S no scoring threat at all as long as teams prevent him from getting alley oops. It'S a shame, because at 7'1 he could dominate defensively and help us offensively.
Miami had nothing but **** at center and we couldn't take advantage because Chandler has no offense.
It would make us so much stronger if he just had one post move and a solid short range jumper.
I love what he has brought to this team in terms of leadership, toughness and character and his defense has been fantastic, but at $14 million + a year he should have atleast one offensive move?
I mean like I said this ain't football.
Anyway, we got far bigger issues than Chandler's O. Just wanted to talk about it, because I see wasted offensive potential.
Let Fields walk, we need a SG/SF that can hit an open shot
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Not a fan of Kathy, are you, Lester.
Good for KG, she found herself a tall and lanky one (we know what that means), but what is that on her head?
Is he tall and lanky or is she just really small?
All I can say is if he's seen her without make-up looking like that he must really love her.
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That's not Kathy Griffin, clearly Aphex Twin has come out of the closet.
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That's not Kathy Griffin. It's Carrot Top.
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I already know that I am going to hell so I'll just say it…the song "Pancake Lizard" seems strangely apt right now…
@Alan down in Florida: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA….I nearly pissed myself.
I'm ready to ante; is 14 months taken?
Good score Kathy! He is not cute, but they are a good match. I think she is hilarious
She's got that "just got laid" expression on her face.
@BJ McFrisky: Wish you would go away!
Gross…inside and out….
Not only is she butt-ugly, she is not funny.
Who's Kathy Griffin and why should I care?
NONE of those comments are funny AT ALL!!
Judging others is just UGLY!!!!
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@Dumdum: If you think KG is funny, and that her boyfriend is good-looking, then you must expect the painful hand of reality to come along now and then and give you an open-handed slap in the mouth. That's just life, DD.
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I really don't think that looks anything like her. I don't know if it is her.
Like Joan Rivers, she is ugly and NOT funny. Yet, she gets a quite sexy boyfriend – the perks of having money.
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Assistant trainer Buzz Tenney leads Kentucky Derby winner Orb to a horse van Monday at Belmont Park in Elmont, N.Y.
NEW YORK Orb is ready.
The Kentucky Derby winner put in his final workout before the Preakness, breezing four furlongs in 47.18 seconds, galloping out five furlongs in 59.54 and delighting trainer Shug McGaughey.
I thought it was breathtaking, McGaughey said Monday morning.
With exercise rider Jennifer Patterson aboard, Orb seemed to move effortlessly around the track on a clear, sunny day. In fact, McGaughey called it more impressive than the colts workout before he won the Derby by 2½ lengths on May 4.
For him to go off nice and relaxed in 24 and change and come home on his own the way he did, and gallop out the way he did, and drop his head and walk home, it sent cold chills up my back, the Hall of Fame trainer said.
After cooling down and receiving a sponge bath, Orb was loaded onto a van headed to Pimlico Race Course in Baltimore. A win in the 1 3/16-mile Preakness on Saturday would set up a Triple Crown try in the Belmont Stakes on June 8. The last Triple Crown winner was Affirmed in 1978.
McGaughey wasnt concerned with the fast fractions, which come nine days after running 1¼ miles in the Derby.
I think its a tribute to the way he came out of the Derby, and to come back and be able to have a work like that and do it the way he did it I couldnt be more thrilled, he said. Right now Im on cloud nine. The way he was striding today, the way he held his leads through the lane, I thought it was spectacular.
Orb, owned by the Phipps Stable and Stuart Janney III, takes a five-race winning streak in the Preakness, where he will face what look to be nine challengers. Among them are Derby runners Mylute (fifth), Oxbow (sixth), Will Take Charge (eighth), Itsmyluckyday (15th) and Goldencents (17th). Also set for the race is Departing, winner of the Illinois Derby.
I think its formidable, McGaughey said. I know that Oxbow made a good run in the Derby. I never really kind of sat down and watched it and pinned it down. The other horse (Will Take Charge) got in some trouble. Youve got to respect Departing coming in there off his race in the Illinois Derby and being relatively fresh. My main concern is just trying to get Orb over there the best way we possibly can and if he runs his race I think theyll know hes in there.
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3i sets up graduate recruitment programme
3i Group is setting up a graduate recruitment programme, becoming one of the few UK-based private equity firms to hire candidates from universities instead of investment banks and advisory firms.
The listed buyout firm is looking to hire six candidates for its new graduate programme, with a view to the graduates starting in 2015, and will be visiting campuses of UK and European universities this autumn to try to drum up interest in the scheme, 3i chief executive Simon Borrows said at the company's AGM on Thursday.
Borrows said that 3i had "not pursued graduate recruitment for many years" and that it was an "important new initiative".
3i spent several years trying to reduce its headcount through an aggressive cost cutting programme, but started hiring buyout executives again in February with the recruitment of four new associates to its UK, Benelux and German teams.
Borrows added: "In our view the early investment in selecting and training the candidates will be well worth it. I believe a well-organised and thoughtful graduate programme will in time produce top flight executives."
The move is an unusual one, as UK private equity firms tend not to hire graduates fresh from university, instead opting to recruit junior candidates after they have gained around two years of experience at an investment bank or advisory firm.
Terra Firma is one of the few UK private equity firms that currently operates a three-year analyst training programme for university graduates, according to its website.
In the US, the practice of hiring graduates fresh from university is more common, with private equity groups such as Blackstone, Bain Capital, and Kohlberg Kravis Roberts all operating graduate programmes, according to their websites.


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Victoria's Secret Coupons ONLY thread - Absolutely No Off Topic and No Trading In Here
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I have a code not already listed here, what do I do?
First, please bring it to our attention in conversation. Second, it would be helpful to us if you would add the code, any offer details, and offer links available to this very wikipost, in the section above marked "Codes to be added to the first post."
Does VS charge for return shipping?
Yes. If you use the UPS label that VS provides with your order, you will be charged $5.99. This label comes with its own tracking number. Occasionally you can get free return shipping labels with your orders when particular offer codes are available. Also, if something is wrong with the item you received or the order is wrong, you can call Customer Service (CS) and ask them to waive the return shipping fee.
Can I put returns from different orders in a single return shipment?
Yes. You may want to bind all items from one order together with their return form and bind any other return items with their respective return forms using rubberbands or something similar. However, it is not a requirement to bind them.
I want to return something, does it matter that I threw away that plastic bag with the barcode on it?
It will help VS process your return if the item is in the original bag; however, it is not a requirement.
I want to return something, but I lost my order invoice / return form, what do I do?
Your order information should still be available under "Your Account" --> "Order Status." You can print out a return/exchange form here: https://slickdeals.net/?sdtid=1978802&sdpid=65611700&sdfid=10&lno=1&trd=http+media+victorias+wbr+secret+&u2=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.victoriassecret.com%2Ffeatures%2F1265586149989%2FPrintable-Return-Final-fields.pdf and then fill it out with the information from your Order Status. Form is also attached at the bottom of the wiki.
What happened to the monthly Birthday Codes?
It seems that to cut down on coupon abuse Victoria's Secret is now emailing VIctoria's Secret Angels their Birthday Reward with individual certificate numbers.
Does VS do price adjustments?
Yes. For online orders, price adjustments must be done within 3 weeks of the shipment date. You can, however, call CS and depending on the rep you get, they might adjust the price if it's within a reasonable time (a couple days) from the 3 week mark. For in-store purchases, a one-time price adjustment may be made within 2 weeks of the original purchase (must have original receipt).
Does VS accept in-store returns for online purchases?
No. Some items they offer online are available in the store, but item numbers may differ. They do not accept your order invoice as a receipt. You can try to do an "I got this as a gift" exchange without a receipt, but they might not carry the item. If they do carry it, the store will give you store credit for the lowest price the item has ever been. VS does not accept in-store clothing returns on Moda International or any other brand the website carries.
Do I have to return my GWPs when I return the corresponding item purchased?
According to the offer details, VS reserves the right to charge you for the GWPs if you return the corresponding item. However, it depends on what the GWP is and the customer service rep you talk to. In general, if the GWP is an item that they sell, such as lip glosses, ultimate tanks, or flip flops, you will have to give it back in the return. If the GWP is something they don't sell, like totes, weekender bags, and PINK dogs, you normally won't have to return it.
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Beauty Events - We' provide you with free beauty samples and makeovers, and shower you with special little gifts twice a year.
How do I request a new PBOS (PassBook of Savings)?
Log in to the VS CC site noted above, hit "Contact Us" at the top bar, scroll to the bottom clink on the link "Submit a question", select "Other" as the subject, and ask them to send you a new passbook. Please note that you are only guaranteed a PBOS when you first open your VS CC Account and you may be denied an additional passbook.
New Question--->I checked my card, and I did not get Anniversary Triple Points in the month of (insert month). What happened?
Victoria's Secret is now granting Angels triple points for all purchases made during their entire anniversary month. You will receive notification via email (possibly with your billing statement). It is not yet clear how VS determines your anniversary month.
What is the automated backorder cancellation number?
1-800-888-8200 or 1-800-411-5116. Follow the prompts.
What is the address I need to mail my Merchandise Certificates to?
Victoria's Secret Direct GC, LLC
PO Box 182100
Columbus, OH 43218-2100
I called VSD and was told the address is no longer the above, but rather:
VSD PO Box 16589
you might want to call in and verify. hth.
What is VS's address for returns?
VSD Attn: Returns Processing
8695 East Broad Street
Reynoldsburg, OH 43069-0001
What is VS's address for general inquiries?
Victoria's Secret
North American Office
P.O. Box 16589
Columbus, Ohio 43216-6589
How do I get offers mailed to me?
When visiting VS stores, the cashiers normally ask for your phone number and email. Giving them this information allows them to send coupons and mailers to the address corresponding to your phone number. You can also request catalogs through their website and sign up for emails there as well.
When is the Semi-Annual Sale (SAS)?
There are 2 Semi-Annual Sales yearly. Generally, they will start in May (online) and June (in-store) or December/early January (online) and January (in-store).
What does it mean to be flagged and how do I avoid it?
VS flags customers who they feel have abused the coupon codes and/or placed orders that they believe to be illegitimate. There are levels of being flagged, from not being allowed any GWPs or to use coupon codes to outright not allowing you to order from VS anymore. If you get flagged, all of your linked accounts will be flagged too. To avoid being flagged, you shouldn't engage in excessive coupon abuse, or place several orders with the same codes in one day. If you do get flagged, the only way around it is to set up a different account with all new personal information (address, credit card, phone number, and email).
How do I check the balance of my gift card, Secret Santa Card, or Secret Rewards Card?
You may check any promotional gift card or gift card balance in-store. You may also call 1-800-888-8200 and speak to a customer representative who will check any gift cards and promotional cards.
I cannot check my order status. Help!
Type your Client Number and Order Number directly onto the website instead of using the email link. If you do use the email link, ensure that the Order Number does not show up as a line of asterisks (*******). If it does, you must type in the Order Number to gain access to your order status. If neither of these work, clear out your cookies/cache and try again.
What is considered coupon abuse?
Some examples of abuse are:
▪ using the Birthday Code when it is not your birth month
▪ using the Birthday Code in your birth month more than once
▪ using more than one code applied to a single item in order to receive multiple GWPs
▪ placing multiple orders in a small timeframe of the same items to receive several of the same discounts/GWPs
▪ getting the same GWP more than once using different codes
▪ stacking the Tier Code and the Free Shipping Code in one order
▪ using too many $10 off codes (Bra Codes and Birthday Codes)
▪ using discount/GWP codes and checking out without the necessary items in your order by getting them to "stick"Reminders:
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What is a Secret Reward Card (SRC)?
This card is given out by VS for purchases made during a specific time frame. Most recently, it was given out in November, with any in-store purchase of $10 or more, or with any purchase online. The cards can be redeemed from December 1 – 24, 2009. The cards have a value of at least $10, but can also be $50, $100, or $500.
Cards cannot be used for gift card purchases. If you do use it for such a purchase online, you do so at your own risk. In the past, when VS has caught similar situations, they have chosen to not refund the order because it is a violation of terms.
To redeem your card:
- Use it in stores. According to the terms, you can use one SRC per transaction. If there is any remaining value after your purchase, it will remain on your card until the card expires on December 24.
- Use it on phone orders. Just call in, and give the SRC number and PIN when placing your order.
- Use it online. When you get to the checkout screen, enter the SRC number and PIN in the gift card slot.
Note: For phone and online orders, you can use up to 3 codes and only 1 SRC per order.
Are the $10 off any PINK purchase printable coupons on eBay valid?
NO. These are fraudulent coupons. There are a lot of sellers listing these on eBay, and despite numerous reports, these listings are not taken down. Even though the sellers have positive feedback, these are not legitimate coupons. They have been going around for a while now. If your coupon looks like this [couponomist.com], but with some alterations, it is FAKE. Some sellers change the expiration date, some remove it entirely…does not matter, the coupon is fraudulent![/QUOTE]
VS CC sent out a thing that looks like spam, privacy policy kind of thing, READ THE FINE PRINT... THEY WILL START CHARGING US $1.00 FOR EACH MONTHLY BILLING STATEMENT WE RECEIVE, unless we opt for the electronic statement method!!!
When you get the letter, it really does look like junk mail, open it up completely, and look on the absolute bottom left of the letter where it says a "Processing Fee: You will be charged $1.00 for each paper monthly billing statement mailed to you. You will not be charged this fee if you have registered for online access to your account and have agreed to receive your monthly billing statement solely electronically via e-statements" O AND ALSO, they are changing something regarding arbitration, and the only option they give you is to write to them if you don't accept the conditions and cancel your card
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Where can I ask about a trade or to giveaway a VS coupon?
There is a Victoria's secret Trading/Giveaway thread located _HERE_ where you can post what you have to trade. Please keep in mind theSD rules for trading.
How do I redeem E-Gift Cards?
Sign in to VS. Go to your e-gift card email, click on the link. Your balance will be loaded on your account. When you are in the payment page at checkout, you will have the option to apply your e-gift card to the order. (Thankskurips)
Angel Rewards (AR) and other coupons - How to determine if they are double dippable?
Double-dippable means that they can be used 1) online/catalogue/phone order and 2) in-store. The online store (VSD) uses Codes and PINs while the B&M store uses a 4-digit Store offer.
- Online coupons are generally PP-XXXXXXX (where PP = prefix FA/SP) and 7 numbers. If there's a PIN code, it is unique and one-time use only.
- In-store offers are usually only a 4 digit numerical value.
The recommendation is to use the Online Code/PIN prior to going to the store to use it due to reports of SAs stealing the online code. An alternative is to write down the Code/PIN and use a permanent marker to cross out the Offer Code/PIN combo. Since they offer both an online code and in-store offer, you should use them both to maximize your savings.
If I purchase with a Gift Card/ SRC/ Angel Reward and then return an item, how am I refunded?
In Store
*Gift Card Returns- You get your money back in a Gift Card. If you also used a Credit Card that portion will go back on the CC you used.
*Angel Reward Returns- when the Angel Reward is applied on an in store purchase it is applied directly to the item so when you return you only get back what you paid for the item. So you forfeit that part of the Angel Reward.
*SRC - you will get a gift card back when you do the return, but has been heard some stores only let you do an exchange.
Online Returns
*Gift Card- you will get a check in the mail. If you use your Angel CC with it, it all goes back on your Angel CC.
*Angel Reward- if you use an Angel CC with it, it all goes back on your Angel CC.
*SRC- if you use an Angel CC with it, it all goes back on your Angel CC.
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You asked. We listened. RETURNS ARE ON US. Return your catalogue or online purchase in-store, and we'll ship it back-free!
Here's How:
1. Bring your items to a participating store. Don't forget your invoice! Our sales associates are unable to process a return or exchange without an invoice.
2. An associate will take your return and give you a drop-off receipt/
3. We'll ship your items back and issue your credit once they're received and processed.
All stores should be participating but call to verify before you go
PASSBOOK COUPONS (Angel Card Holders Only)
* PBOS coupons require a regular-priced item in your shopping bag at checkout. The code will not work if you have clearanced-items only.
TYPE THE OFFER CODE INTO THE Victoriassecret.com search box and it may show you eligible items
ANGELJAN JANUARY $25 Sports Bra
PINKJAN JANUARY $5 off Bralette or Bandeau
ANGELFEB FEBRUARY $15 off Very Sexy Bra
PINKFEB FEBRUARY Free Iphone Case $19.50 value
ANGELMAR March Free Flawless Panty
PINKMAR MARCH $10 off Wear Everywhere Bra
PINKAPR APRIL Free Cheekster $9.50 value
ANGELAPR APRIL$15 off Multiway
ANGELMAY MAY Free Lacie Hiphugger
ANGELJUN JUN Free No Show Sexy Panty
ANGELJUN JUN $10 off a bra
ROSELACE Free Rose Lace Cheekster Panty [victoriassecret.com] w Bra purchase Exp 1/26
FREEPANTY Free Cheeky Panty [victoriassecret.com] w Bra purchase Exp 1/26
SP1439577 $10 off a reg/sale priced bra + FreeCheeky Panty [victoriassecret.com] in White/Black Exp 2/20
SP1439709 $10 off a reg/sale priced bra Exp 2/24
SPORTBRA10 $10 off a VS Sport Bra Valid from 02/01/14 till 02/28/14
PINK35 free PINK panty with $35 PINK purchase (new Pink Nation members only) Exp unknown
ANGELBRA $10 off a Bra when you use your Angel Card (valid now through May 2014)
FA1339085 Free Swim Tote with $65 Purchase exp 1/31
SP1439757 Free Workout Bag [fbcdn.net] with $65 Victoria's Secret Sport purchase exp 2/16
OTHER CODES/CURRENT OFFERS (please update as soon as you find one!!)
PINKBONUS $5 off Yoga Bottom (requires angel card) Exp 4/14
SHIPBRA Free Shipping w Bra purchase Exp 1/26
FA1339415 Free Shipping w $100 purchase Exp 2/17
FA1339217 Free Shipping w $100 purchase Exp 2/21
FA1339073 FREE SHIPPING & RETURNS WITH SWIM PURCHASE Exp 2/28
FA1339061 Free Shipping w $100 purchase Exp 2/28
SP1439277 Free Shipping w $100 purchase Exp 3/06
TIERED DISCOUNT CODES ($15 Off $100+, $30 off $150+, $75 off $250+)
Clearance merchandise does _not_ qualify toward offer eligibility. Some tiers differ slightly. Every month (or so) there is a tier that combines with Free Ship for a few days, but the usual tier code does not combine with Free Ship.
SPRING14 $15 off $100, $30 off $150, $75 off $250 Exp 2/13
SP1439517 $15 off $100, $30 off $150, $75 off $250 Exp 3/20
From in-store receipts, sometimes there is a $10 off $50 survey invitation code. Take the survey within 14 days at www.vsfeedback.
SURVEY12VS - Requires PIN - Exp 1/31
SURVEY1VS - Requires PIN - Exp 2/28
*None at this time*
INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING: Girls do not pay $20 more for express shipping, if you get your order to weigh more than 1.6 kg -1.8 kg (coat+ other stuff; pair of shoes + other stuff; or 4-5-6 lotions/butters/etc.+other stuff or so) then VS ships your order EXPRESS by UPS :-)))
I always order with my orders at least 5-7 bott. VS Fantasies and always get my order shipped express!!!
VS can not ship international package (may be just out of Americas) weighted more than 1.8 kg (stuff+packaging+catalogues+custom documents) with USPS, they only can ship it by courier!!!
Total $$$ value of your order DOES NOT matter, it is the WEIGHT that matters when it is up to shipping method
*none available*
*free panty mailers are being sent out*
Pink Nation members: Free Rose Lace Cheekster Panty w PINK purchase & $10 Off a Bra over $25 Exp 1/27
Beauty Rush - Buy 2, Get 2 free [cheetahmail.com]. 1/14 - 1/27.
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out of all the panties on the round table and the drawers, I only found 2 I wanted and a possible 5 panties
The panty in the picture contained in the email isn't even eligible, it is $22.
Also...these panties are regularly 3/33 so $5 shouldn't be too much a stretch
i found a $36 Very Sexy matching panty for $12.99 online.
Both of their Catalogues--(Swim 2013 Volume 1 + Swim 2013 Volume 2)--are full of gorgeous pictures! Absolutely stunning!
use code SP1333961 valid through 3/21 at 11:59pm est
add qualifying regular-price bra and a qualifying panty to your order and enter the code above. bra and panty prices will be adjusted after code is applied. one free panty and discounted bra per order; while supplies last. no substitutions. available in: white (dk9), black (dl3), nude (dj5), light buff (h25) and heather grey (163). excludes the ruched backed hiphugger. sizes xs-xl. not valid on clearance, previous purchases or purchases made in stores. offer subject to adjustment due to returns, cancellations and exchanges. discount cannot be redeemed for cash or used as payment toward your Victoria's secret angel credit card. for orders outside the US, additional taxes and duties may apply. not valid with any other bra and/or panty offer. offer may be modified or discontinued at any time without notice.
angels triple points on all purchases! feb 26 - march 3
Offer Code inside my email--(from Tuesday, February 28, 2012)--says 75GETAWAY.
i'm guessing it will be either 75GETAWAY or GETAWAY75 beginning on Tuesday, February 26, 2013 [while supplies last].
i can't wait to see how cheesy their next commercial will be..They look goofy (not sexy) in the website's product photos.
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I try both codes and they both not working, maybe it is early , Thanks again
Offer Code inside my email--(from Tuesday, February 28, 2012)--says 75GETAWAY.
i'm guessing it will be either 75GETAWAY or GETAWAY75 beginning on Tuesday, February 26, [b]2013[b/] [while supplies last].
out of all the panties on the round table and the drawers, I only found 2 I wanted and a possible 5 panties
The panty in the picture contained in the email isn't even eligible, it is $22.
Also...these panties are regularly 3/33 so $5 shouldn't be too much a stretch
Also, I agree it would be a good deal if you have the angel CC so you could get the rewards card as well.
Add qualifying PINK items totaling $50 or more and a glow-in-the-dark PINK iPhone® case (iPhone® 4/4s: item #303-341, iPhone® 5: item #303-342) to your shopping bag.
Enter offer code PINKCHAT at checkout.
The price of your iPhone® case will be adjusted after code is applied.
Valid through 11:59pm EST on February 25, 2013, while supplies last.
One free iPhone® case per order. Includes removable friendship bracelet. No substitutions. Clearance, gift cards, gift wrap & kits, shipping & handling and taxes do not qualify toward offer eligibility. Not valid on store purchases, previous purchases or with any other iPhone® case offers. Offer subject to adjustment due to returns, cancellations and exchanges. Orders shipping outside the U.S. may not be eligible, additional taxes and duties may apply. Offer may be modified or discontinued at any time without notice.
Add Outerwear from the "Coats or Jackets" collection and scarf (item #294-358) to your shopping bag. Enter offer code SCARFVS at checkout. The price of your scarf will be adjusted after offer code is applied. Valid through 11:59pm EST on February 24, 2013; while supplies last. One free scarf per order. No substitutions. Available in Black (093), White (B02), Grey (142). 57" x 10". Imported acrylic. Gift cards, gift wrap and kits, shipping & handling and taxes do not qualify toward offer eligibility. Offer subject to adjustment due to returns, cancellations and exchanges. Not valid on previous purchases, store purchases or with any other Outerwear offer. Orders shipping outside the US may not be eligible; additional taxes and duties may apply. Offer may be modified or discontinued at any time without notice.
I got the offer in a catalog along with a free panty (No purchase necessary in stores) the code for the bag with a $75 purchase is SP1335677 there is a pin under the codes but I think its just for the free panty.HTH
also had 20% off a bra sp1334897
In another catalog I had a $10 off a bra and a free cotton panty which combines with the free Fabulous panty above. code is sp1334885
Got a pink bra ($19.50) and two pairs of panties for $7 shipped using those codes and a $10 b-day code not a bad deal.


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but he is still loosing ball when he have hands down + still travelling which is most funny while we know WHAT team is most know 4 travellers.
It's been a long time coming. We gotta get this dude out on the floor now. The time has long passed, Knicks are turning into a laughing stock and for us to have any hope of doing well in the playoffs we need STAT gelled into a 28+ minutes role not this weak 20 minutes off the bench crap.
Who's with me?
but he is still loosing ball when he have hands down + still travelling which is most funny while we know WHAT team is most know 4 travellers.
Stat is limited to 30 minutes and coach still played him 32 mins in the cleveland game. I just think he is being very cautious with Stat. He was never really a great defender and he still seems to be limited as far as his mobility. IMO, Stat is a better fit when coming off the bench only because he has the potential to keep the team scoring. Lets face it, Melo is a scoring machine and will get most of the touches no matter who is on the floor with him. I do see Tyson and Stat sharing the paint more, this will take time to master because Tyson is a rebounded and enterior defender and Stat is a P&R player. There's potential for disaster if their timing is off. Woody plays all 3 together but not offen because of the glaring deficiencies within the trio's collective efforts. In time I think they will figure it out.
STAT pushed his 30 minute cap yesterday
When Woodson comments on Stat .. Woodson's words are very shallow & hesitant about his confidence in Stat.
Woody words on Stat been like this since the ending of the 2011-12 regular season, throughout Stat's 2012-13 injury season to the 30 less minutes in his post-game comments.
Which means Woody's Job is to please Dolan's franchise player Carmelo Anthony slow-ballin Iso-plays.
The Knicks roster and coaching-staff went along with Woody's favoritism of Melo & JR over every other teammate for the first 23 games to earn a 18-5 start ....... After that, the roster & coaching-staff took on a different stance, a 18-16 record stance, that wouldve been a 17-17 stance if Melo didnt trip over his own foot to cause him a injury to leave the Cavs game in the 2nd quarter with the Knicks down by 22 points. Melo consistent Iso-plays have never let us come-back from being down by 10 points, and JR iso-play almost cost us to lose the Cavs game in crunchtime.
Its not so much about FREEing-Stat .. its about playing to the talents/skillz of Stat, Novak, Shump, and Kidd's Strength by letting these players speed up the tempo to run a transition that take advantage of oposition weak areas on defense to outscore oponents by sharing the scoring with other Knicks teammates...
I miss STAT being THE guy. I know that great time period when he was the guy wasn't long, but damn it was exciting. I still shake my head at how he loses the ball, but give him a shot. He's NEVER been the guy since Melo came. Let's see what he can do being put into this position.
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How Ironic, lol.
Guess if I was simple in the mind...everything would be fine.
Yeah well, if he's gonna get injured like this from playing his whopping 23 minutes a night then so be it. Call it a day for his starting career, 20 minutes off the bench if we're lucky from this point out.
Knicks need to fire their medical staff like yesterday.
This medical staff seriously blows. It took them like two months to realize that Sheed had a fractured foot and somehow Amar'e gets injured when playing like ~20 minutes a game?
We need the Suns' medical staff...or BALCO, either one...
He was freed alright! He just couldn't live up to it.
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Seconds after this photo, she started ringing the bell frantically and shouting, "Sanctuary! Sanctuary!"
But of course, we all do it to varying degrees -- you might pass 5,000 cars on your morning commute, and 4,999 of them might be perfect, polite drivers. But then you pass that one guy in the SUV who literally stuck his buttocks out of his side window and took a flying shit on your hood. When you get to work, are you going to talk about the 4,999 good drivers or the flying hood shitter? You're going to focus on the negative, because your brain is hardwired to devote more attention to the misery in life.
Researchers have found this in a laboratory setting: They can show participants pictures of angry and happy faces, and the participants will identify the angry faces much faster than the happy ones. How much faster, you ask? So fast, we answer, that the participants had no conscious recollection of ever seeing the faces. That's right -- your brain already identified the shit parts of your day before you even knew it. You have a sixth sense for misery.
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"Wait, my 'everything sucks' sense is tingling."
And that was a great ability to have back when evolution was deciding which of us would reproduce and which would get eaten -- we needed a brain tuned to spot threats. Giggling at the butterflies instead of running from the tiger puts you in the express lane through the tiger's intestinal tract. We focus on the negative because it's the negative shit that gets us killed -- there was no evolutionary advantage to stopping to smell the roses. But this has left us with a brain that not only devotes our attention to the bad stuff, but also makes us remember it a lot better. Think about the implications in your everyday life -- you can wind up walking away from a pretty good job or relationship because you only remember the bad times.
If there's a good side to it, the effect does seem to reverse as we get older, when nostalgia starts to set in and we focus more on the good memories. Unfortunately, for many of us the only effect of that seems to be that we can't stop talking about how freaking great things were back in our day.
"This is bullshit. They've whitewashed the neo-anarchist undertones that made the Ninja Turtles so meaningful."
4Killing Negative Thoughts Only Makes Them Stronger
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All right, you think, if negative thoughts are so powerful and make us so miserable, we'll just force ourselves to stop focusing on them. After all, we're conscious animals; we have control over our own brains. Now that we're aware of the problem, we just won't do it -- we'll look in the mirror and force ourselves to not think about the pimple.
Sure. First, let's try a really simple brain exercise:
Imagine a white bear humping another bear. Try to get a really clear picture of them in your mind. All right, now stop thinking of the humping bears. Use all of your powers of concentration to eliminate all traces of them from your mind. You shouldn't be seeing the white bears at all now, or their frantic thrusting, even when we repeat the words "humping white bears."
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"... I should not have Googled that phrase while at work."
Did it work? Hell, no! In fact, the more you tried to not think about bear sex, the more you thought about it. This, unfortunately, is the same thing that happens when you try to force yourself to not think about the pimple in the mirror: Suppressing negative thoughts actually makes them stronger. You read that right. Negative thoughts are like the Sand People: If you chase them away, they'll come back in greater numbers.
"I'll be back! You haven't even begun to freak out about that elevator conversation!"
It's actually insane when you think about it -- we're constantly trying to banish bad thoughts from our mind, but the human brain simply doesn't have a mechanism for doing it. After all, the only way to know for sure that you are not thinking about horny white bears is by monitoring your thoughts and "scanning" them for any traces of them. So the process basically goes like this:
"Am I thinking about humping white bears?"
"Well, I wasn't, but now I am ..."
Psychologists call these ironic thought processes. They are the reason why you only want the stuff that you can't have, why trying to suppress laughter only makes you laugh more, why you fail at stuff when somebody is watching, and so on. Telling yourself not to be afraid of failure puts failure right at the center of your thoughts. It's the difference between overweight people who are always counting calories and rail-thin people who have to be reminded to eat at meal time because otherwise they just "forget to eat." The overweight dieters are constantly failing because staying under the calorie count requires them to do the one thing they should be avoiding: thinking about food.
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"And over there we'll plant pizza trees far as the eye can see."
This is the cruel irony of people who are chronic worriers. Brain scans show that people who are constantly worrying about every little thing have much more active brains than other people ... but the extra energy is wasted. When worriers try to complete a task they worried about, they end up doing worse than non-worriers doing the same task. So much of their brain power is being used to try to foresee all the bad outcomes that they almost guarantee that one of those bad outcomes will occur.
Meanwhile, people who aren't concerned about what will happen can dedicate all their concentration to solving whatever problem is in front of them, meaning their chances of success are higher. That's right -- you could say that some people succeed purely because they're too dumb to know why they should fail.


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Skip to comments.Many Modern 'Liberals' are Indeed Un-American
Posted on 12/03/2005 10:27:42 AM PST by Coastal
First, many modern liberals arent liberal at all today. Instead of seeking to expand personal freedom and liberty like the liberals of old, they seek to remove freedoms and liberties from others to support their federal dependency. There aint nothin American about that!
Just so you dont miss the point, lets keep it simple and straight forward. People from other countries who hate American principles are called anti-American. People from America who hate those same American principles are called un-American. Too simple?
Oh I know - its politically incorrect to use the term un-American when referring to people who call themselves American.
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They can be as unamerican as they want. No one has to elect them to office, or tolerate treason when the Unamericanism evolves to treason, as it is doing in many cases, like Joe Wilson, and lately Murtha.
I'm an American by birth, not by creed. I have made no profession of faith in any American principles, and neither has most everyone else. A "Proposition Nation" is downright Jacobin.
"un-American" seems to fit you then.
Too many who reside in America do so for the purpose of benefiting from the ideals that made America the most desired residence on earth, without in any way contributing to the nation they seek to suck dry. They often even work to kill the goose that laid the golden egg they have enjoyed.
I think you have identified yourself as one of those the author was describing. American in address alone. A parasite consuming the fruits of others works and sacrifices without contributing anything in return...
Not sure you should be so proud...
If John Murtha had a Medal of Honor or even a Silver Star I might concider him a hero, but the Bronze Star and Vietnamese medal were handed out like M & Ms.
Most officers who went to Vietnam came home with them, if they served in any kind of combat unit. Like most of us, of that era, he did his duty.
Nothing more and nothing less.
As far as his military expertise, I am not impressed with anyone who spent 37 years in the Marine Corps and retired a Lt. Col.
I am more comfortable with the three and four star generals running the show.
I second that!
Ready for number two? Retroactively to 11 September 2001, whensoever any American appears on national or local television, radio, newspaper, or other medium, including those employed in the press and media, and declares, states, implies, or insinuates that America should surrender to the terrorists, prosecute and convict of sedition and sentence to five to ten years at hard labor. We certainly should not prosecute for mere misspeaking, so we'll be nice and require several separate but similar statements revealing a true belief or position of the day. Develop a zero-tolerance policy for overt public sedition.
I knew there was something I liked about ole honest Abe...
And calling anyone who disagrees with you 'unamerican' cheapens that term as well. Unlike Mr. Williams I spent the better part of my adult life wearing the uniform of this country's military. I was defending the rights of those people Mr. Williams is attacking. Those rights include holding beliefs and opinions different from mine. They may disagree with the war, they may dislike the President, they may openly question the motivations of the administration, it is their right as American to do so. It is one of the things that makes this country different from most of the other countries in the world and is one of our greatest strengths. And I hope we never lose it, never reach the point where people are afraid to disagree with their goverment for fear of being labled 'unamerican' by the likes of Mr. Williams.
Who says I'm proud? I just already have a religion, and I hate treating my country as if she were a church. Anti-Americans tend to have silly foreign countries they'd like us to copy, like Sweden. I'm just a nutty localist who considers himself a Coloradoan and a Westerner before he considers himself an American. I'm content to love the land I was born in, and reject the stupid ideologies layered over her and the stupid ideologues who demand I have to pour libations to their petty idols before I can claim "true Americanity."
I live in the shadow of America's purple mountain majesties, and I love them dearly. Ideas don't have form or color, and sure ain't worth living or dying for. The land and her people, however, are sure worth losing your head for. Those who claim Americanism to be their creed are just like the French they so often claim to despise, all abstraction and no particularity. It's like they're all hat and no cattle.
There's a lot of things to like about Abraham Lincoln, but that quote isn't one of them. I don't believe he ever said it. A search of the online sites that contain his speeches and writings has not turned up anything resembling that quote.
This is the source of the photo and the quote...
Of course, they could be wrong.
I am the messenger, not the source.
Hopefully, I did not forward a false quote. I apologize, in advance, if I did.
It's impossible for Abraham Lincoln to have said that quote. Merriam-Webster's Ninth Collegiate dictionary says that the word "saboteur" was first used in 1921 and did not exist before that.
Thank you for your research and information.
I will not forward this quote in the future and I apologize for the mistake.
Hopefully that website will correct their information so that others do not also get confused.
Sorry you've been lied to your entire life. The ideas discussed by Williams are not Mr. Williams ideas. He is right in saying they are some of the key founding ideas of America, responsible for America's success, and the lifestyle every American enjoys today. Anyone who knows history knows this.
Mr. Williams said nothing about supporting or not supporting Bush. He gave some pretty good examples of behavior that would have been grounds for public lynching not so long ago. They'd be grounds today if it were a Republican who did it.
He seems to suggest that living in America while attacking everything American is akin to belonging to a church, sitting in the pew every Sunday, but speaking out against and undermining that church all week long. Not hard to assume by these actions that one is anti-church...
If you wore a military uniform to pay for the right of people to destroy this country, you are a fool. Well founded honest dissent is not what anyone including Mr. Williams seems to take issue with.
Relentless attacks on all things (ideals) fundamentally American is another story.
Sorry you fail to understand the substantial difference.
Sorry you think you fought to defend the destruction of American principles...
"Ideas don't have form or color, and sure ain't worth living or dying for."
Freedom is just an idea... So is personal liberty, self-governance and self-determination. Many died to secure these ideas, many more to protect and defend them.
America is the name chosen for the land born and built upon these ideas. Love it or leave it...
Sounds like a plan!
We should give the dummycrats some of their own medicine, thats all I mean to say. We should be decrying them as treasonous evry time they try and disempower the Presidents foreign policy, because their strategy is prolonging the war and placing our soldiers in danger.
As that danger caused by the Dems increases, their answer is to vacate Iraq and bring them home from danger they themselves have created. That sounds like treason to me, but short of execution, we at least should be calling them the spades that they really are.
No reason to apologize, Abraham Lincoln is one of the most widely quote, and widely misquoted, president in history. That quote made an appearance recently and has been widely disseminated on the web. But Lincoln's speeches and writings widely available on the web, Here and here for example, and that quote is not to be found.
So, how would you label them?
Mistaken. Did it ever occur to you that the other side may be labeling you unamerican as well? What's to say that they aren't right?
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Princess Luxury St.Peter
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Méret35 m²
Floor No.3(with elevator)
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Accommodation summary
|Via Tommaso Campanella, 00195 Roma, Olaszország
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Standing in the XIX Century Building, the newly renovated Princess of St.Peter Vatican has all the comforts you need for a perfect vacation and offers a high quality experience to the guests; WIFi, a studio type room with large bed, bathroom and kitchen and a window that overlooks a beautiful garden.
The atmosphere is very clean and elegant. Feel the vive of the Reinassance of the appartment located in St.Peter area (Vatican City).
Here in this Princess of St.Peter Vsatican, you can feel at home. Princess of St.Peter Vatican is located minute away to the Metro Cipro (line A) and various bus stops nearby.
We also offer a special Welcome Walking Tour of Rome, do not hesitate to ask us for more details.
Following the Italian Rules we will ask you at checkin to pay 3.50€ (Rome City Tax) cash per person night.(children under 10 years of age are exempted). City Taxes are EXCLUDED from the total that you already paid on Wimdu for your reservation. Clening Fee is EXCLUDED 35€.
All checkin after 21:00 has to pay late charge 15€ and after 1:00am 20€
Check in time is from 11:30, remember that house may not be ready at that time, be sure to tell me if you need an earlier check in so that i can organized myself, and we can leave your stuff inside the appartment and be back later when the appartment is ready.
Check out time is at 10AM.
For checkout late the only solution is:
We have a new service of Luggage Deposit+toilet+wifi station+
Relax Area+guide+tours in the center of the city near Central Train Station "TERMINI" ask us during a checkin i will tell you all,cost is 5€ each luggages.
Sheets and Towels are included.
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The apartment, located in Prati north of the Vatican is well located for discovering Rome by foot, bus or subway.
Close to the apartment you will find nice restaurants (I recommend the OSTERIA DELL' ANGELO, Via G. Bettolo 24-32), the Trionfale covered Market and a Coop-Supermarket where you will find everything you might need for your stay.
The Apartment is conform to the description and the photos on this site. It is quite small but the space is sufficient for one or 2 people. The problems with the shower, mentioned in some reviews seem to be resolved - I didn't had any problems. The kitchen is very sparsely furnished (during my stay there was only one espresso maker as cooking vessel).
The apartment is directed to a courtyard, so the street noise is barely audible. Your tranquility might be disturbed sometimes by your immediate neighbors because the apartment was part of an bigger apartment, today split in two entities rented to tourists.
With this small reservation, I've enjoyed my stay.
the shower was clogged.
toilet paper, soap and garbage bags were missing.
difficult to unlock the door every time.
the elevator only usable with two keys.
respond to emails late, so had to wait a few hours before the door.
cost a bit too high.
Room is located near Vatican and shopping street.
looks sweet and nice. most things you need are there
3-4 (train)stops from the center.
metro 5-10 min away by feet
air conditioning and located in quiet area.
nice neighborhood.
The apartment is less than 10mn walk from the Vatican Museum but still 25mn from Piazza Navona. It is fairly small especially if you are 3 people. There was an issue with the shower evacuation that could not get solved even after the intervention of the owner. But Simone seemed very nice and tried to help.
Arrival and tips:
This is our report about "Princess Luxury St. Peter", a very little cute apartment less than 5 minutes to walk from "Cipro", a metro station. If you are arriving by plane at the airport, you can take one of the busses to the train station "Termini" (4 - 5 euro, but watch out: the bus will also stop in "Ostiense", don't leave to early ;-). After your arrival in Termini take the metro (maybe you call it "subway") to the Cipro station. You'll get a subway-ticket on the next snack-stall (there's always one in the near) and it'll cost you 1,50 Euro.
We arrived in Cipro station and someone was waiting for us on the way to the apartment, gave us the keys and that's it. As you can see on the pictures there's only one living room with the bed, beneath a little table and two chairs. You will find a mini-kitchen, only just enough space that one person can stand in it and can prepare food, but you're on vacation, who needs a big kitchen (we didn't) ;-) The bath is also small (you can see it on the pictures) but enough for one person. The shower is not the best, water drains off VERY slowly. Also we ran out of toilet paper at the 3rd day and had to buy some new.
We spent one week in Rome and this little apartment was very nice to stay in, sure it could be a little bit cleaner (at least you pay 35€ for final cleaning) but all in all it was very nice, I think it's typically Italian and the inner yard is also very beautiful.
But there is one big minus-point, so one star less:
What you have to know: this apartment consists two apartments, both separated and locked for itself, but if someone arrives or leaves the apartment he/she will pass your apartment and will open the main apartment door (which is use for both of the small apartment's residents). Walls are very thin so this place is really sensitive. One day our neighbors came home from a night tour (drunk of course) at 4 a. m. and it was really scary. I almost got a heart attack out of sleep when they unlocked the main door and I thought someone is coming to our room. They did a little bit party and conversation, ok that was our misfortune. But also when they left in the middle of the night (I guess to arrive an early plane) and they tried to get their luggage through the small door it was very annoying and loud.
Location and tips:
The Location is very good if you want to start to the main sights in Rome. To Vatican (10 minutes) and castle St. Angelo (15 minutes) you can go by foot, the remaining sights are easy reachable by subway.
If you want to buy some food and drinking there's a Mercado on the big traffic circle in front of Cipro subwaystation.
You will find easily a lot of cafeterias to do a nice "Italian breakfast" (as we've done every day): cappuccino and a biscuit like a croissant with or without chocolate (2 Euro or less each person).
If you want to go (10 minutes by foot) to a nice place to eat pizza, a little bit away from the most tourists google for "Il Peperoncino Dispettoso, Viale delle Medaglie D'Oro, 158" :)
And another good tip, if you want to see forum romanum and colosseum: DON'T BUY YOUR TICKET AT THE COLOSSEUM! If you see the long line of waiters in front of the colosseum you'll know what I mean. There is a default ticket for forum romanum AND colosseum which takes effect for two days. Buy your ticket at forum romanum (we waited less than 10 minutes) and you have two options: visit forum romanum today and colosseum the next day (as we have done it) or turn around immediately and go back to the colosseum line (which is 100 meter away), pass the line and go directly to the entrance where you don't have to wait.[...]
After a visit a Vatican please don't miss to eat a delicious icecream on the old bridge gelateria (search on tripadivsor for the exact location, it's in the near of the side exit gate for the pope at vatican wall) to find the best ice for a very good price in this area.
We hope you'll find this recommendation helpful.
Best regards
Das Zimmer ist ruhig, nahe an der U-Bahn. Leider ist es nicht sauber, es scheint kaum geputzt zu werden.Winzige Küche, eigenen Topf mitbringen! Hauspersonal überreicht einem den Schlüssel, das wars. Man muss auf Dauer mit öffentlichen Verkehrsmitteln in die Altstadt fahren, zu weit zum Laufen. Alles ist schlicht im Zimmer, von Luxus kene Spur. Aber schönes altes Haus im Borgio,nahe zum vaticanischen Museum.
Barbara est très aimable, son accueil chaleureux nous a tout de suite mis à l'aise.
L'appartement est propre est bien agencé même s'il est beaucoup plus petit que ce qu'il paraît dans les photos.
L'immeuble est calme et tranquille.
Quant au quartier : il suffit de s'arrêter devant la porte de l'immeuble pour admirer la coupole de la basilique St Pierre s'illuminer la nuit. Le musée du Vatican étant à moins de 5 mn à pieds.
Appartement à recommander !!!!
Merci encore BARBARA
La posizione dell'appartamento è buona ma altrettanto non si può affermare per l'appartamento e l'organizzazione dell'accoglienza. L'appartamento lascia a desiderare per l'igiene nonostante si pagano soldi extra per la pulizia finale. Inoltre in cucina mancano le cose essenziali ( non c'era nemmeno una spugna per i piatti) e ci sono stati problemi con la finestra. Va bene come appoggio ma il proprietario dovrebbe curare meglio l'appartamento!
La ubicacion del apartamenteo es extraordinaria, el tamaño justo para tres personas , ya que tiene cama de matrimonio y te instalan una supletoria , sin embargo la limpieza deja muchisimo que desear,aunque si que te cobran 35 euros para la limpieza . los utensilios de cocina mejor lavarlos antes de usar con un buen estropajo. el baño sucio y no hay ni fregona para pasar un poco en el suelo ( hice fotos , no me invento nada ) Recomendaria el apartamento pero si advierto que la limpieza es nula.
Le logement est très bien situé, proche de toutes commodités. La station de métro est à 5 mn a pied, un supermarché 24h/24h à 3 mn et un square pour enfant juste devant.
Concernant le logement, la literie est bonne, la kitchinette bien équipée et la décoration agréable mais le point négatif est la propreté qui est un peu limite.
L hote nous avait préparer des serviettes de bain propres mais très usées dont une grisattre au lieu de blanc.
Les draps sont vieux et le sur-drap ne semblait pas avoir été lavé avant notre arrivèe.
Il n y avait pas non plus de savon ou gel douche, juste un fond de bouteille.
En clair c est vraiment dommage que ces détails fassent défaux car c est , dans l ensemble, une belle prestation.
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