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I've asked this before, were you home-schooled? Just curious.
I'm confused as to your understanding of evolution. Could you explain? Because it's obvious that Australopithecus would not be considered human. In fact everything in that Evolution thread you posted does not refute evolution in any way. Actually, in many ways it refutes your faith.
But again, I can't trust your continued quotes from creationist's websites. They are deceitful. If you copy and paste a statement from a creationist website that says "scientists can't agree on evolution", how am I supposed to trust that? I've already proven to you how dishonest they are. Post the link to the actual journal article and I will read it for myself. Otherwise, stop with the false quotes from scientists.
Hahaha! So they were extremely healthy?!? That's your answer!! That's the biggest bullsh*t you've come up with to date. And you've said a lot of bull sh*t. Did you just make that up, or does the bible actally say this. If it does, then that is another falsehood of the bible.Gen 9:
28 And Noah continued to live three hundred and fifty years after the deluge. 29 So all the days of Noah amounted to nine hundred and fifty years and he died.
Can you imagine how much healthier the patriarchs were compared to us? Noah dies at 950, you will die likely around 70 if the system lasted long enough.
One of Adam's sons was Cain, and one of Adam's daughters must have become Cain's wife. At that time in human history when humans still had outstanding physical health and vitality, as indicated by the length of their lives, the likelihood of passing on defects as a result of marrying a close relative was not great. After some 2,500 years of human history, however, when mankind's physical condition had greatly deteriorated, Jehovah gave to Israel laws forbidding incest
This shows Jehovah's wisdom in two ways. He knew that the patriarchs would be healthy enough to spawn mankind, but also knew eventually this would be a detriment to mankind, as we clearly know now for a fact.
Your overall health has nothing to do with the ability to avoid genetic diseases from interbreeding. And still, your religion is based on incest. That is disgusting. And by the way, history has shown that we are living longer than our ancestors.
If that is your basis for refuting evolution then you must refute christianity. Because we can't get all of the christians or great religious scholars to agree on anything either.Yet we can't even get all the brilliant minds of science to agree on evolution. And you tell me, it's a fact?
I've asked this before, were you home-schooled? Just curious.
You have gone through great legnths to make your point, and I truly, truly commend you Lj. But the veiwpoint you hold is inaccurate, and this short discourse will show why. I added one with Alexander the great for the heck of it.
An example of the astonishing accuracy of Bible prophecy concerns the ancient Phoenician seaport city of Tyre. This city grew to be very great at the expense of other people. She was a manufacturer of metal objects, glassware and purple dyes, a trading center for overland caravans, a great import-export depot. Her merchants and tradesmen boasted of being princely and honorable. (Isa. 23:8) At one time friendly relations existed between Tyre and Israel. But this did not continue, for Tyre eventually allied herself with Israels enemies. Because of Tyres treachery toward Israel, God inspired his prophets Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and others to predict that calamity would come upon this Phoenician seaport. We read, for example:
"This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said, Here I am against you, O Tyre, and I will bring up against you many nations, just as the sea brings up its waves. And they will certainly bring the walls of Tyre to ruin and tear down her towers, and I will scrape her dust away from her and make her a shining, bare surface of a crag. A drying yard for dragnets is what she will become in the midst of the sea. . . . Here I am bringing against Tyre Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon from the north, a king of kings, with horses and war chariots and cavalrymen and a congregation, even a multitudinous people. And I will make you a shining, bare surface of a crag. A drying yard for dragnets is what you will become. Never will you be rebuilt; for I myself, Jehovah, have spoken, is the utterance of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah."Ezek. 26:3-5, 7, 14.
Secular history reports that Nebuchadnezzar began a siege of Tyre sometime after destroying Jerusalem and the temple of Jehovahs worship in 607 B.C.E. The Jewish historian Josephus, drawing upon Phoenician annals and other previously written history, states that Nebuchadnezzars siege against Tyre lasted thirteen years. The Bible indicates that Nebuchadnezzars forces inflicted considerable damage upon Tyre.Ezek. 26:8-11.
Tyre recovered from this blow struck by Babylon. However, centuries later, Grecian forces under Alexander the Great moved against Tyre, which at that time was located on an island about half a mile (0.8 kilometer) from the mainland. When the inhabitants refused to capitulate to Alexander, he became enraged and had his men scrape up the ruins of the mainland city and throw them into the sea, thus building a causeway out to the island city. Then a sea battle took place in which Alexanders forces prevailed. After a siege of seven months, Alexanders men took the island city. When its inhabitants put up desperate resistance, the city was set on fire. It proved to be as another prophet, Zechariah, had foretold: "In the fire she herself will be devoured."Zech. 9:4.
Though Tyre kept trying to make a comeback through the centuries, the city repeatedly fell before hostile forces, just as Gods prophet had foretold. (Ezek. 26:3) What is the present condition of Tyre, which was one of the great sea powers of the ancient world? Ruins and a small seaport, called Sour (Sur), mark the site. Nina Jidejian, in her book Tyre Through the Ages (1969), declares: "The port has become a haven today for fishing boats and a place for spreading nets," exactly as prophesied through Ezekiel.Ezek. 26:5, 14.
During the sixth century B.C.E., when Babylon held sway as the dominant world power, the prophet Daniel received an amazing dream vision involving two symbolic animals. The first was a ram (a male sheep) having two horns. "And the two horns were tall, but the one was taller than the other, and the taller was the one that came up afterward." (Dan. 8:3) What did this ram represent? An angel explained to Daniel: "The ram that you saw possessing the two horns stands for the kings of Media and Persia."Dan. 8:20.
Daniel was here given by name the world power that would succeed Babylon. True to these details, Babylon fell to Medo-Persia. The Medes (the smaller horn) at first were the stronger and the Persians thereafter gained ascendancy (the taller horn that came up afterward).
What about the second animal of this vision? Daniel tells us that it was "a male of the goats coming from the sunset upon the surface of the whole earth, and it was not touching the earth. And as regards the he-goat, there was a conspicuous horn between its eyes."Dan. 8:5.
The he-goat does battle with the ram, overcoming it. (Dan. 8:6, 7) Then something unusual takes place. Daniel continues: "As soon as [the goat] became mighty, the great horn was broken, and there proceeded to come up conspicuously four instead of it, toward the four winds of the heavens."Dan. 8:8.
Upon inquiring of an angel as to the meaning of this part of his symbolic vision, Daniel received this reply:
"And the hairy he-goat stands for the king of Greece; and as for the great horn that was between its eyes, it stands for the first king. And that one having been broken, so that there were four that finally stood up instead of it, there are four kingdoms from his nation that will stand up, but not with his power."Dan. 8:21, 22.
Here it is foretold that Medo-Persia would be followed as a world power by Greece.
What about the he-goats "great horn" that was broken and in place of which four other horns appeared? As noted in the angels explanation, the great horn represented the "first king" of Greece as a world power. That was Alexander the Great. Interestingly, after Alexander died, in time his empire was divided up four ways among four of his generals, "toward the four winds of the heavens," as foretold.Dan. 8:8.
According to Josephus, this prophecy was shown to Alexander when he came near Jerusalem. We read: "When the book of Daniel was shown to him, in which he [Daniel] had declared that one of the Greeks would destroy the empire of the Persians, he believed himself to be the one indicated; and in his joy he dismissed the multitude for the time being, but on the following day he summoned them again and told them to ask for any gifts which they might desire."Antiquities of the Jews, Book XI, chapter VIII, paragraph 5.
And just for further proof of how bible prophecy is infallable
A unique prophecy found in Daniel, chapter 9, gives details of history more than six hundred years in advance. This prediction specifies that "Messiah the Leader" would appear sixty-nine "weeks of years . . . from the going forth of the word to restore and rebuild Jerusalem," and that, shortly thereafter, Jerusalem and its temple would be destroyed. (Dan. 9:24-27; An American Translation) How was this fulfilled?
A decree for the restoration and the rebuilding at Jerusalem was given by Persian King Artaxerxes Longimanus during the twentieth year of his reign. The decree went into effect in the fall of that year, which was 455 B.C.E. Counting forward sixty-nine weeks of years (each "week" being seven years long), or 483 years, from 455 B.C.E., brings us to the year 29 C.E. According to the Scriptural record, that was precisely the year in which Jesus of Nazareth presented himself as Messiah, at his baptism in the Jordan River.Luke 3:21-23; 4:16-21.
This same prediction states that Messiah would be "cut off . . . at the half of the [seventieth] week." (Dan. 9:26, 27) In precise conformity Jesus died on Passover Day in the spring of 33 C.E., exactly half a week of years, or three and a half years, after his Messianic career began at baptism.Matt. 26:2; John 13:1, 2.
As for Jerusalems destruction, this prophecy states concerning the generation in which the Messiah would appear and be cut off in death: "And the city and the holy place the people of a leader that is coming will bring to their ruin. And the end of it will be by the flood. And until the end there will be war; what is decided upon is desolations." (Dan. 9:26) Five days before his death Jesus provided further details about this, as we read:
"And when he got nearby [Jerusalem], he viewed the city and wept over it, saying: If you, even you, had discerned in this day the things having to do with peacebut now they have been hid from your eyes. Because the days will come upon you when your enemies will build around you a fortification with pointed stakes and will encircle you and distress you from every side, and they will dash you and your children within you to the ground, and they will not leave a stone upon a stone in you, because you did not discern the time of your being inspected."Luke 19:41-44.
Concerning the foretold "fortification with pointed stakes," Josephus reports that, during the Jewish revolt, Roman General Titus urged the building of a wall around Jerusalem. His soldiers denuded the countryside of trees and erected in just three days an encircling fence of stakes nearly five miles (8 kilometers) long. In the holocaust that followed, 1,100,000 of Jerusalems "children" perished. As for the thoroughness with which these predictions of the citys destruction were fulfilled, only three towers and a portion of the western wall remained standing. Josephus writes: "All the rest of the fortifications encircling the City were so completely levelled with the ground that no one visiting the spot would believe it had once been inhabited."
This destruction of Jerusalem occurred in 70 C.E., some 605 years after Daniel wrote his Bible book (about 536 B.C.E.). How faith-inspiring it is to consider fulfillments of detailed Bible prophecies written centuries in advance! But Scriptural predictions do not deal merely with the distant past. Many are having a remarkable fulfillment today, and they indicate how you may enjoy a bright and happy future.
Jehovah reveals prophecy to his people. In no part of the bible does Jehovah prophecy using a person who is not devoted to him in worship. Which is why most of the world is lost when it comes to bible prophecy except one group of people
And no, you can't get all Christians to agree, but they usually agree that God favored the Jews at one time. That said, Jesus came around and he taught exactly how Jehovah wanted things to be and how he would bring them about, even though the Jews had the same scrolls Jesus read from.
So in similar fashion, most Christian faiths will agree or disagree. But only one Christian faith actually just does as the bible says so. No matter the translation. That is why they have Jehovah's favor.
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The fossil record, the one record that should give massive evidence of graudal change does not in fact do that. It shows sets of species appearing at the same time. One different from the next.
It should in fact show gradual signs if what you say is true. It doesn't. So what now?
You can see rapid change in evolution, but it is typically from less complex organisms that have a high birth rate (i.e. multiple mating seasons, many offspring per births). We have actually witnessed this form of evolution in many species today.
Normally though, evolution is a gradual change over a long periond of time. More commonly with organisms that have a low birth rare (i.e. few mating seasons, few offspring per birth). This gradual change is usually in sequence with the environment, which also changes gradually over a long period of time. But, when the environment changes drastically, over a short period of time, extinctions or severe population reductions to low birth rate organisms occur.
Believing that life came from an organsim, requires more faith than Chrisitianity.
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That's fine. But I am reading that the fossil record shows no such thing. Unless I am missing something. Like here.
No Transitional Features
28 Another difficulty for evolution is the fact that nowhere in the fossil record are found partially formed bones or organs that could be taken for the beginning of a new feature. For instance, there are fossils of various types of flying creaturesbirds, bats, extinct pterodactyls. According to evolutionary theory, they must have evolved from transitional ancestors. But none of those transitional forms have been found. There is not a hint of them. Are there any fossils of giraffes with necks two thirds or three quarters as long as at present? Are there any fossils of birds evolving a beak from a reptile jaw? Is there any fossil evidence of fish developing an amphibian pelvis, or of fish fins turning into amphibian legs, feet and toes? The fact is, looking for such developing features in the fossil record has proved to be a fruitless quest.
29 New Scientist noted that evolution predicts that a complete fossil record would consist of lineages of organisms showing gradual change continuously over long periods of time. But it admitted: Unfortunately, the fossil record does not meet this expectation, for individual species of fossils are rarely connected to one another by known intermediate forms. . . . known fossil species do indeed appear not to evolve even over millions of years.31 And geneticist Stebbins writes: No transitional forms are known between any of the major phyla of animals or plants. He speaks of the large gaps which exist between many major categories of organisms.32 In fact, The New Evolutionary Timetable acknowledges, the fossil record does not convincingly document a single transition from one species to another. Furthermore, species lasted for astoundingly long periods of time.33Italics added.
30 This agrees with the extensive study made by the Geological Society of London and the Palaeontological Association of England. Professor of natural science John N. Moore reported on the results: Some 120 scientists, all specialists, prepared 30 chapters in a monumental work of over 800 pages to present the fossil record for plants and animals divided into about 2,500 groups. . . . Each major form or kind of plant and animal is shown to have a separate and distinct history from all the other forms or kinds! Groups of both plants and animals appear suddenly in the fossil record. . . . Whales, bats, horses, primates, elephants, hares, squirrels, etc., all are as distinct at their first appearance as they are now. There is not a trace of a common ancestor, much less a link with any reptile, the supposed progenitor. Moore added: No transitional forms have been found in the fossil record very probably because no transitional forms exist in fossil stage at all. Very likely, transitions between animal kinds and/or transitions between plant kinds have never occurred.34
31 Thus, what was true in Darwins day is just as true today. The evidence of the fossil record is still as zoologist DArcy Thompson said some years ago in his book On Growth and Form: Darwinian evolution has not taught us how birds descend from reptiles, mammals from earlier quadrupeds, quadrupeds from fishes, nor vertebrates from the invertebrate stock. . . . to seek for stepping-stones across the gaps between is to seek in vain, for ever.
Why are prominent people who study this, saying this? How am I the stupid one, for listening to people like D'Arcy Thompson who live for this stuff, and write books on it? What makes his opinion less to you, than someone who disagrees with him? Personal choice maybe?
But there is more.
What the Fossil Record Really Says
36 When we let the fossil record speak, its testimony is not evolution-oriented. Instead, the testimony of the fossil record is creation-oriented. It shows that many different kinds of living things suddenly appeared. While there was great variety within each kind, these had no links to evolutionary ancestors before them. Nor did they have any evolutionary links to different kinds of living things that came after them. Various kinds of living things persisted with little change for long periods of time before some of them became extinct, while others survive down to this day.
37 The concept of evolution cannot be considered a strong scientific explanation for the presence of the diverse forms of life, concludes evolutionist Edmund Samuel in his book Order: In Life. Why not? He adds: No fine analysis of biogeographic distribution or of the fossil record can directly support evolution.40
38 Clearly, the impartial inquirer would be led to conclude that fossils do not support the theory of evolution. On the other hand, fossil evidence does lend strong weight to the arguments for creation. As zoologist Coffin stated: To secular scientists, the fossils, evidences of the life of the past, constitute the ultimate and final court of appeal, because the fossil record is the only authentic history of life available to science. If this fossil history does not agree with evolutionary theoryand we have seen that it does notwhat does it teach? It tells us that plants and animals were created in their basic forms. The basic facts of the fossil record support creation, not evolution.
How am I suppose to ignore this?
When they argue from irreducible complexity is that stating GOD is the creator...automatically opens the next door which is..."What created God"? He will evade this question as he has no answer for this logically, because it would then suggest he's worshiping the wrong deity. And since this can't be negated...he's going to avoid the question or answer you from the book of riddles. Now if he says honestly, I do not know..atleast that's respectable.


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Judging by its invitation, this costume party was an event not to be missed. Hosted by architect Spencer Fullerton Weaver, it was likely attended by a glamorous and bohemian crowd.
I certainly would not turn down a party promising a "crazy costume dance." I would, however, hesitate on what to wear. With Halloween approaching, I looked to the Archives' collections for costume inspiration.
For starters, why not go as an artist?
In this photograph, William Merrit Chase dons the accoutrement of an academic painter. Chase was well regarded for his impressionist paintings, but his career as an art instructor also impacted generations of young, aspiring artists.
In 1898, he founded the Chase School of Art, now known as Parsons The New School of Design (yes, the Parsons of fashion fame).
To transform yourself into an acclaimed artiste, you'll need a white smock, palette and brushes, and pince-nez.
Make it work!
The Victorians
Charles Sheeler and Marsden Hartley studied under Chase during the early 20th century. Both artists were significant American modernists, although you wouldn't be able to tell by these costumes!
Sheeler's paintings and photographs conveyed modernity with stark and precise renderings of industry. In 1927, the Ford Motor Company hired him to photograph their cutting edge River Rouge factory in Dearborn, Michigan. But in this photograph, Sheeler ditches a Ford Model A and opts to take a horse and buggy to a Victorian-themed costume party.
Requirements for Victorian revelers: petticoats and corsets for the women; top hats and frock coats for men. Bonus points for arriving in a horse and buggy.
The Arabian Prince
Marsden Hartley was a peregrinating painter who spent time in Maine, New Mexico and Western Europe. Although he never made it to the Middle East, he wore this Arabian Nights costume to a Society Arts Ball in Paris.
To resemble Sinbad the Sailor, you'll need: beads, Hammer Pants, and a flair for the dramatic.
The Gunslinger
In this snapshot of painter Jackson Pollock harkens yet another time and place: the Wild West.
When this photo was taken, Wyoming-born Pollock was just a teenager, but his independent personality was evident. By the late 1940s, he was notorious for both his poured paintings and his volatile personal life.
To become a lonesome cowboy, you'll need a cowboy hat and boots, toy rifle, and rugged swagger.
The Glitterati
If you would like more glam than grit in your costume, look no further than two of the glitziest artists in our collections, The Rhinestone Cowboy and Gertrude Vanderbilt Whitney.
Folk artist Loy Bowlin is best known as the Original Rhinestone Cowboy. This look was not a costume, but the outfit he would wear any day of the week. Boylin, standing on his porch in Mississippi, bejeweled his clothes, house, and even his Cadillac.
To pull this off, you'll need to invest in a serious Bedazzler, but the efforts will pay off when you sparkle on the dance floor.
The Glamazon
Artist and founder of the Whitney Museum of American Art, Gertrude Vanderbilt Whitney embodies free-spirited glamour. A sculptor in her own right, she also patronized many of the leading and emerging American artists of the early 20th century. She also had a talent for accessorizing beautiful dresses.
In order to achieve that artsy Vanderbilt look, you'll need lots of flair: feathers, tiaras, broaches, and gems. A Bedazzler wouldn't hurt for this one either.
Happy Halloween from the Archives of American Art!
Mary Savig is a curatorial assistant at the Archives of American Art.

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More photos of my stay on my Visual Diary.
More photos of my stay on my Visual Diary.
They have different faces and I love their different style of wearing a dress.
great photos:)
love the girl inthe loooooooooooooooooong dress
The first look is just amazing and the first photo is so amazing. i really like it. Thanks for sharing and have a great trip!
they are all hot! love the red coat most!
Love the first pic and the bra over a tee!
I love all the outfits!!!
first girl is so chic!
I lvoe the bra wore in that way!
all of them have amazing styles!
isn't that yoon in the first two pics?
The first one is so elegant, stylish and classy and the shoes add an interesting edge to the outfit
the first girl has such an incredible personal style! i absolutely love the harajuku look!
xx, http://wordbyjessie.com
photos are really cool – interesting and good composition.
nice photograph collection
Love the classy with an edge look on the forst girl! :D
I Iove the last picture & dress!
oh i like that one with the guy and his juice box on the side ;D
The black&white outfit is very nice.
Ciao Daniela
the boy with platform shoes…. aaa-mazing. totally effortless, but super cool lover!
Cute girls!


text: Surprised this hasn't been mentioned already on here but it looks like the BBC have already decided they will be showing more World Cup games. They originally announced that they would show all Englands group games, a quarter-final, a semi-final and the final, but they advertised during the Hudds v Leeds game that they will also be showing the Wales v Italy game now. It'll be on BBC 2 straight after the England v Australia match. Hopefully this means they may pick up some more games as-well.


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I have a well (breast)-fed 11 month old son and have to leave for 5 days to go on a conference. By the time I leave my freezer stash will be down to 42 oz, which will lasts him 2 days or less.
should I send home milk and if so how? fedex overnight? DHL? ups?
or should we start supplementing with cows milk. I REALLY dont want to use formula, it just seems so synthetic to me.
I feel really guilty, because i have been taking it easy with the pumping in the last months. I had such a nice freezer stack, my breasts weren't so full any more, so i pumped only once at work, while he drinks two times while I am gone.
so when I opened the freezer the other day, I suddenly see that it is getting empty. I started pumping more now in panic, two times at work, once at night, and even on the weekends. I know this will probably make me have too much milk when I am separated from him but I did not know what else to do.
I leave for the conference in 13 days, before that I will go on a 6 day trip with my little one, where I won't be pumping.
I would appreciate any advice on what I should do. I also don't want the milk I am pumping at the conference to go to waste. Should I send it home? packd with ice packs? or try to store it somehow till i get home?
I am so glad these forums are open again!


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Judge should ban meetings before open sessions
Most of the time when public officials try end-runs around Ohio's open meetings law, they sincerely just want to get things done for taxpayers in the most efficient ways possible.
But good intent should be no defense against shutting taxpayers out of meetings. Buckeye State residents have a right to know how their business is being conducted.
An old tactic for avoiding public scrutiny is the pre-meeting meeting. The technique involves calling officials to gather before their formal public meeting to make arrangements for it.
But a Warren County resident in southwestern Ohio smelled a rat when he heard trustees of Clearcreek Township use the practice. He filed a lawsuit accusing the trustees of violating the state open meetings law.
A judge in Warren County dismissed the lawsuit but the 12th District Court of Appeals has ordered it be reinstated. Arrangements will be made for it to go to trial.
Clearly, the appeals court was right. On its face, the taxpayer's lawsuit makes a valid point.
Township administrator Dennis Pickett said he and trustees are not doing anything wrong. They gather about half an hour before the formal trustees' meetings twice a month, so he can explain what has happened during the previous two weeks and answer questions about the upcoming meeting, Pickett said.
But Jack Chrisman, who filed the lawsuit, points out there is no notice of the pre-meeting meetings, the public is not invited, no minutes are kept – and some decisions, at least on what to keep on the formal meeting agenda, are made.
That sounds like an open-and-shut lawsuit. Trustees seem to be "deliberating" during the gatherings. What they say and whether they pull items off a previously set agenda for the formal meetings may be important to members of the public. Even what information they request from the administrator ought to be known publicly.
Clearcreek Township trustees may have the most innocent intentions in the world. They may be simply trying to make their formal, open-to-the-public, meetings more efficient.
That does not matter. Allowing such gatherings would set a precedent other, less scrupulous, public officials would abuse.
The Warren County judge should ban the pre-meeting meetings.


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Few countries in the world offer the level of mail service we consider normal in the United States. If you expect U.S. standards for mail service, you will be disappointed. Mail takes anywhere from one to three weeks to travel in either direction. At times, some mail may get lost in transit. Some letters may arrive damaged or opened. Since communication with friends and family is a very sensitive issue for most Volunteers, we want to forewarn you about the reality of international mail service. Advise your family and friends to number their letters and to write "Air Mail" on the envelope.
We strongly discourage having family or friends send you packages during the first phase of training in St. Lucia (which is your first three weeks in-country). If any packages sent to St. Lucia don't arrive within that time, we will forward your mail to your island of assignment, but at your cost. You will be notified of the charges prior to any packages being sent by airmail to your island of assignment and will be asked to reimburse Peace Corps for the cost.
If you absolutely need to receive mail during the initial three weeks of training, your address during training will be:
"Your name," PCT
Peace Corps
PO Box 123
Castries, St. Lucia
West Indies
This address will only be valid for your first three weeks in the Eastern Caribbean. After that, you will be on your island of assignment.
We strongly urge that mail be sent directly to your site once you have sworn-in as a Volunteer. Packages from family and friends are the responsibility of the individual Volunteer. The local post office will inform you that a package has arrived, and you will need to appear in person to collect it. Post office officials will open it in front of you. You may have to pay hefty customs duties. Due to the risk of packages getting lost in transit, don't have valuable items sent to you.
Generally, long-distance communication via telephone is available, but expensive. Most Volunteers find that they can easily make or receive calls from the United States. Please note that "1-800" numbers are not accessible from the Caribbean. All other numbers can be dialed directly. Calls to the United States from the islands range widely in cost depending upon locality and time of day. United States phone cards do not work here, so do not bring them. You can purchase the local "smart-phone" cards to call home or to make local calls. While a number of Volunteers have home telephones, recent competition in the cellular phone market has resulted in improved service and lower prices, making cellular phones a more favorable approach to phone service for many Volunteers. The Eastern Caribbean uses both the Global System for Mobile Communications (GSM) and Time Division Multiple Access (TDMA)..
Computer, Internet, and E-mail Access
The Caribbean enjoys the latest technological advances, and computer technology is common. Each Peace Corps office has a computer that is dedicated for use by Volunteers and offers Internet access. If you currently use e-mail, you should bring important addresses with you. Use of the Internet and e-mail at the Peace Corps office will be difficult during your pre-service training, but Internet cafés are available in the capital as well as in some towns and villages.
Some Volunteers have e-mail and full Internet access in their home or work via providers in the Caribbean. The access is approximately $1.75 (U.S.) per hour. The service is fair and runs at 28.8 BPS, sometimes higher. Bringing a laptop computer and paying for Internet access may enhance your Peace Corps experience. The heat and humid weather may be extreme, but should not damage equipment. Power surges may be avoided with a good surge protector. Theft may also be an issue. As with all valuable personal property, bring a computer at your own risk and get it insured.
Housing and Site Location
During this time, you will begin to integrate and establish links with your host community. Your associate Peace Corps director will identify proper housing for you. It is very likely that all homes will have running water and electricity. The houses will also be fully furnished and a few may include a television set with cable service. Volunteer sites can be as close as 15 minutes and as far as 90 minutes from the capital and the Peace Corps office.
Living Allowance and Money Management
The local currency is the Eastern Caribbean dollar, and it is the same currency used on all islands where Volunteers live and work. The exchange rate in July 2006 was approximately $2.70 (EC) to one U.S. dollar. Travelers' checks can be cashed at any bank. Credit cards are widely accepted. Personal checks from U.S. banks can be cashed, but it may take several weeks for the check to be cleared and for the funds to become available to you. All the banks have ATMs, so you can access cash most of the time.
Your Peace Corps living allowance is paid in Eastern Caribbean currency and is electronically deposited on/or about the 25th of every month to the account that you open at a local bank. Both checking and savings accounts are available. You will receive more information about banking facilities on your island of assignment during training. The living allowance will cover all regular expenses such as rent, food, utilities, and other essentials. The amount is enough to allow you to live at the level of other host country nationals; however, volunteers need to budget and there is not much room for "extras". The amount paid varies according to the cost of living on the island nation where you reside.
Food and Diet
There is a wide range of food choices available in the islands. The Eastern Caribbean offers a wealth of fresh fruit and vegetables, most of which can be purchased daily from fruit stalls and grocery stores. Many Volunteers have been pleasantly surprised to find one or more fruit trees in their back yards, and many have used yard space to grow such vegetables as tomatoes, lettuce, sweet peppers, peas, and beans. All of the vegetables available in the United States are also grown here, and while a few are seasonal, one can find several different vegetables all year-round.
Locally baked breads are available in bakeries, supermarkets, and home delivery vans. The local bakeries also supply a wide choice of cakes, scones, biscuits, cookies, and pastry.
Volunteers who are vegetarians can buy produce and other items from the local markets, as well as from a number of vegetarian stores and shops that stock specialty foods.
Fresh fish is always plentiful as is fresh meat and locally grown chicken. All Volunteers are given books on local foods that provide information on nutrition, preparation, and safety.
Mini buses make travel from one place to another very easy and inexpensive (depending on the island). Volunteer homes and work sites are no more than half an hour to two hours away from the capital. The buses run up to about 8:00 p.m., although a few areas have service up to midnight. Volunteers are not allowed to drive automobiles or ride motorcycles because of the type of roads that exist and the number of fatal accidents related to these forms of transportation.
Most Volunteers rely on public transportation to get around. Some Volunteers can request assistance from the Peace Corps in arranging alternative means of local transportation. Volunteers on some islands can apply for and recieve limited funds to purchase a bicycle in the Eastern Caribbean . Peace Corps will also provide you with a helmet, which must be worn at all times while riding a bicycle. Failure to abide by this policy may result in termination of your Peace Corps service.
Geography and Climate
The Eastern Caribbean, including Barbados and the Lesser Antilles, is the island chain that separates the Atlantic Ocean from the Caribbean Sea. The Peace Corps places Volunteers on : (1) Antigua and Barbuda, (2) Dominica, (3) Grenada, Carriacou and Petit Martinique, (4) St Kitts and Nevis, (5) St. Lucia, and (6) St. Vincent and the Grenadines.
The islands are geographically divided into "inner and "outer" chains. The inner islands are volcanic in origin and are characterized by rugged, mountainous terrain, heavy rainfall, lush fertile vegetation, and many rivers. Dominica alone has as many as 365 rivers. The inner islands include Grenada and its dependencies of Carriacou and the southern Grenadines, St. Vincent and its dependencies of the northern Grenadines, St. Lucia, and Dominica. The highest points of these islands are generally in the center, except for a few spectacular sheer slopes on some coastlines. Most roads go around rather than over. High points of elevation vary from 1,000 to 5,000 feet above sea level.Antigua and Barbuda and St. Kitts and Nevis have a coral limestone base. They are relatively flat with less vegetation and rain than the inner islands.
The tourist brochures do not lie when they describe the islands of the Caribbean as lands of sunshine and beaches. The first thing you must realize is that you are heading to two years of summer weather. The temperatures make history if they go above 90 degrees Farenheit or below 70 degrees. The day-night range is usually about 10 degrees, from 80 to 90 degrees Farenheit in the summer months and 74 to 84 degrees in the winter. The sun is hot year-round, but gentle sea breezes from the northeast trade winds blow throughout the year and help to cool the air. The high humidity makes it is easy to work up a sweat anytime of the day or night.
The rainy season generally lasts from July to December, but the amount of rain varies widely in different locations. In addition, brief showers, sometimes downpours, are common in any month. Additionally, the Eastern Caribbean is prone to hurricanes during the months of June to November. The region can sometimes experience a dry season from March to May. Other environmental concerns, especially in the banana-producing countries, are deforestation, siltation, river pollution, and unplanned and inappropriate land use.
Social Activities
There are a variety of ways to enjoy social activities in the Eastern Caribbean. Since you live on islands where people are friendly and hospitable, the more friends you make and the more you join in the local activities, the more you will enjoy your two years here.
All islands have local festivals of which Carnival is the biggest. There are plenty of shows, house and street parties, and steel band concerts. Also, most islands have a jazz or a Creole-music festival once a year, and these are big cultural treats.
Outdoor sports are also popular among Volunteers and host country nationals. The islands have good hiking trails, mountains for mountain climbing, and thick rain forests that you can visit, preferably with a certified guide. The islands also offer wonderful snorkeling and a lot of warm sandy beaches, good for swimming or just relaxation. For sporting enthusiasts, there are several cricket, soccer, basketball, volleyball, and running clubs. Many Volunteers have initiated sporting groups or clubs in their host communities.
Professionalism, Dress, and Behavior
One of the challenges of being a Peace Corps Volunteer is immersing yourself into the local culture while maintaining your own cultural identity. It is not an easy thing to resolve, but we will guide you through the process.
The way you dress is important. You may feel inclined to wear shorts and tank tops because they keep you cool. However, as long as you are at any place other than the beach or the privacy of your home, it is imperative that you dress in a manner that does not resemble that of a tourist. It will become more apparent to you later in your service that "setting the tone" early on and dressing with care are very important for your image. You may be working as a representative of a government ministry, and, as such, you would be expected to dress and behave accordingly. A foreigner wearing unmended or informal clothing is more likely to be considered an affront. This topic is extensively addressed during training. Wearing appropriate attire also helps you avoid harassment. Most women wear suits (hand-tailored on island), or a blouse and slacks or skirt to work. Dress sandals or dress shoes are appropriate, but sporty sandals are not. Men wear suits, or dress shirts and slacks. Dress shoes or dressy leather sandals are work by men to work, but flip flops and other causal sandals are not appropriate.
Integrating into your new community will be hard enough. A new Volunteer needs as few "distractions" as possible as they establish themselves. For that reason Volunteers are asked not to display body piercings or tattoos during the first months of their service. This includes nose rings, tongue bolts, and navel rings. Men are not allowed to wear earrings or have long hair or ponytails during that same timeframe. Tattoos should remain covered to the greatest extent possible throughout your service. If you do not remove your body rings and cut your hair before you arrive in the Eastern Caribbean, you will be asked to do so before you move in with a host family during training. If you have reservations about this policy and the degree of sacrifice and flexibility required to be a successful Volunteer, you should reevaluate your decision to accept the invitation to Peace Corps/Eastern Caribbean.
Personal Safety
Your safety is our first priority and it must be yours as well. To this end, we have an emergency action plan that we continuously test and revise. The plan provides you with information on how to respond to a crisis situation.
The section on Health Care and Safety in this Welcome Book provides tips on how to keep safe. Being a stranger in a foreign environment is, in itself, a safety hazard, and Volunteers must take their own safety precautions by being very vigilant and avoiding unsafe places or events. As a foreigner and an American, you may become a target for muggings or other forms of physical and verbal assaults. Environmental risks such as hurricanes and volcanic eruptions are also a possibility in the Eastern Caribbean. The Peace Corps is cognizant of these risks and has implemented policies and measures to enhance your safety and security.
By joining the Peace Corps, you have become part of a unique organization whose membership is predicated on the belief that every Peace Corps Volunteer will serve successfully and go home safe and sound. Your experience in the Peace Corps takes up only a short period in your life and you should expect to go home enhanced—not diminished; stronger— not weaker; enlightened—not confused, and certainly not physically or emotionally harmed.
The rules are different in the Peace Corps and each of us— trainees, Volunteers, and staff—must take full responsibility for our own behavior, safety, and welfare. We must also look out for the behavior, safety, and welfare of each other. It is our responsibility to do all that we can to encourage the appropriate behavior and ensure the safety of everyone else. This simple commitment may make the difference between someone who is enhanced by their Peace Corps experience and someone who is harmed.
You must take responsibility for yourself and not depend on others to make decisions for you. It is okay to tell others that you are worried about them. Work with them to avoid or reduce inappropriate and/or potentially dangerous behavior. Please speak to staff when you feel that additional assistance is needed to have someone stay safe, secure, and productive.
Rewards and Frustrations
Life as a Volunteer has its rewards, particularly as you begin your work. Your projects will start to flourish, and your partners will learn and grow. By the same token, you will feel the frustrations when things take too long to happen or do not turn out as you expect. People may not always show the level of interest and enthusiasm that you anticipate, or they may not be prepared to make the changes that you think are good for them. Therefore, you must approach everything with an open mind, be willing to accept change, and, most of all, be flexible.
Volunteers are expected to observe the same work schedules, reporting procedures, leave-of-absence policies, and access to agency resources as their co-workers. You may feel alone and that no one appreciates your efforts. The way to overcome this is by setting your own personal goals and remaining focused on them, even when progress seems slow and remote. Peace Corps life has its ups and downs, good times and bad. Learn to enjoy the gains and look forward to these moments rather than dwell on the losses.
It is also important not to interpret "Volunteer" in the way that some volunteer service is viewed in the United States. Your assignment will involve being on the job day in and day out, following the same schedules and protocols as your host country colleagues. You will not be able to casually take a few days off to travel to another island or go off on a trip to visit family. There are opportunities for taking annual leave and vacation, but the associated application procedures and scheduling requirements must be observed. Failure to abide by these and other policies and procedures could be cause for disciplinary action.
Being a Volunteer in the Caribbean involves a high degree of commitment. Projects are designed and assignments are made with the idea that Volunteers will honor their commitment and work for two years. Host agencies, sponsoring ministries, and local community members or students are counting on you to remain in your position for a full term. Do not accept this invitation to service if you are not willing to make such a commitment.
Whatever frustrations and limitations may exist, Peace Corps Volunteers who serve in the Eastern Caribbean consistently find the experience to be uniquely rewarding. There is a special kind of satisfaction that comes from learning to live and work effectively in another culture. It soon becomes apparent that the experience effectively contributes to your own personal and professional development, and to the development of the host country.


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The Tamborrada drum festival in San Sebastián, the Carnivals in Orense and in the Canary Islands and the Fallas bonfire festival in Valencia are some of Spain's most important winter festivities.
Fallas bonfire festival in Valencia
In the month of March, following preparations which will have gone for the whole year, Valencia is transformed for the celebration of the Fallas. For a few days, the streets are filled with gigantic figures, true works of art, which compete in ingenuity and creativity, and for which an epic end awaits: fire. Take part in this special fiesta and enjoy all the emotions it entails.
As the Spring arrives, so does the most eagerly awaited moment for the inhabitants of Valencia: the Fallas This is Valencia's big feast, prepared over the previous year with hard work and dedication. It takes place in the week of 19th March. During this time, the streets are filled with fun, imagination and spectacle in an impressive exhibition of art and colour which will leave you speechless. We can only recommend one thing: experience it for yourself.
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Home List of Titles Breaking the law: the M bh-M spheroid relations for core-Sersic and Sersic galaxies
Please use this identifier to cite or link to this item: http://hdl.handle.net/1959.3/217456
- Title
- Breaking the law: the M bh-M spheroid relations for core-Sersic and Sersic galaxies
- Author(s)
- Graham, Alister W.
- Abstract
- The popular log-linear relation between supermassive black hole mass, M bh, and the dynamical mass of the host spheroid, M sph, is shown to require a significant correction. Core galaxies, typically with M bh 2 × 108 M ☉ and thought to be formed in dry merger events, are shown to be well described by a linear relation for which the median black hole mass is 0.36%—roughly double the old value of constancy. Of greater significance is that M bhM 2 sph among the (non-pseudobulge) lower-mass systems: specifically, log [M bh/M ☉] = (1.92 ± 0.38)log [M sph/7 × 1010 M ☉] + (8.38 ± 0.17). 'Classical' spheroids hosting a 106 M ☉ black hole will have M bh/M sph ~ 0.025%. These new relations presented herein (1) bring consistency to the relation M bhσ5 and the fact that Lσ x with exponents of 5 and 2 for bright (MB & 8211;20.5 mag) and faint spheroids, respectively, (2) mimic the non-(log-linear) behavior known to exist in the M bh-(Sérsic n) diagram, (3) necessitate the existence of a previously overlooked M bhL 2.5 relation for Sérsic (i.e., not core-Sérsic) galaxies, and (4) resolve past conflicts (in mass prediction) with the M bh-σ relation at the low-mass end. Furthermore, the bent nature of the M bh-M sph relation reported here for 'classical' spheroids will have a host of important implications that, while not addressed in this paper, relate to (1) galaxy/black hole formation theories, (2) searches for the fundamental, rather than secondary, black hole scaling relation, (3) black hole mass predictions in other galaxies, (4) alleged pseudobulge detections, (5) estimates of the black hole mass function and mass density based on luminosity functions, (6) predictions for space-based gravitational wave detections, (7) connections with nuclear star cluster scaling relations, (8) evolutionary studies over different cosmic epochs, (9) comparisons and calibrations matching inactive black hole masses with low-mass active galactic nucleus data, and more.
- Publication type
- Journal article
- Research centre
- Swinburne University of Technology. Faculty of Information and Communication Technologies. Centre for Astrophysics and Supercomputing
- Source
- Astrophysical Journal, Vol. 746, no. 1 (Feb 2012), article no. 113
- Publication year
- 2012
- FOR Code(s)
- 0201 Astronomical and Space Sciences; 0305 Organic Chemistry; 0306 Physical Chemistry (Incl. Structural)
- Keyword(s)
- Black hole physics; Core galaxies; Galaxy evolution; Nuclei; Sersic galaxies
- Publisher
- Institute of Physics Publishing
- Publisher URL
- Copyright
- Copyright © 2012 The American Astronomical Society. All rights reserved. The American Astronomical Society does not allow Swinburne Research Bank to archive either the accepted manuscript or the published version of the article. However you can find an earlier version of the full text here: http://arxiv.org/abs/1202.1878.
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Sarah Carlson
Contact firstname.lastname@example.com
Hometown: Oak Park, IL
College: UW Madison
What is your favorite part about living in Madison?
I love the Badgers. I'm a proud UW graduate and I love the downtown, State Street, campus area. I love taking my kid to the Memorial Union for ice cream.
What do you like to do in your spare time?
I like to spend as much time as possible with my kids, Madeleine and Ethan, and I like to run!
What is your favorite kind of ice cream?
I like vanilla ice cream with as much chocolate sauce as possible.
What is your favorite place to vacation?
I went to Maui as a teenager. I need to go back as a grown-up, plans to be determined.
Who is your hero and why?
My parents are, for teaching me to work hard and tell the truth and parent my own kids well.
What is your favorite sport to play or watch?
I love to watch football, Badgers and Packers. I love to run whenever I can.
If you could possess one superhuman power, what would it be?
To cure cancer.
What are you really bad at that you'd love to be great at?
What is your most memorable travel experience?
Backpacking through Europe with my best friend after college.
What is the worst job you have ever had?
Stuffing envelopes in a closet for a temp agency.
Who would you most like to interview alive or dead, and why?
My grandmothers. I never met either of them.
What is your favorite tradition around the holidays?
Watching my children open their Christmas presents.
What is your favorite song of all time?
It changes all the time.
What is your favorite book of all time?
The Giving Tree.
What is the best piece of advice you have ever received?
Always tell the truth.
If you could relive any moment…what would that be?
I haven't lived it yet, to be determined.
Where were you when September 11, 2001 occurred?
Sitting on the news desk at a competing station in Madison, watched the second plane hit live.


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Makes 8 servings
This dessert offers a combination of flavors that brings together tart (lime juice), hot (black pepper), salty (salt), nutty (roasted ground cumin), and sweet (fruit).
Rather than dessert, it can also be served as an accompaniment to fish or chicken.
1 teaspoon whole cumin seed
½ teaspoon black peppercorns, crushed
½ teaspoon salt
1 medium pineapple, peeled and cubed
1 papaya, peeled, seeded, and diced
1 medium, ripe mango, peeled, pitted and diced
2 tablespoons fresh lime juice
Heat a small skillet over medium heat for about 2 minutes. (A hand held, palm down, about 4 inches above the bottom of the skillet, should feel warm.)
Add the cumin seed to the skillet and stir constantly for 1 to 2 minutes, or until the seed turns reddish brown and has a strong, nutty aroma.
Remove the seed from the skillet and let cool.
Grind the seed in a spice grinder or with a mortar and pestle. Stir in the peppercorns and salt.
Combine the pineapple, papaya, mango, and lime juice in a large bowl.
Stir in the spice mixture.
Refrigerate for 1 to 2 hours, or until chilled.


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Inspiration and co-creation from over 20 countries.
Media Artist Timo Wright and Art Educator Laura Porola, both young creative Finns, sat down in Helsinki and came up with an idea of having an exhibition without revealing the artists behind the art.
Absolut continues its Transform Today campaign by presenting a global series of experiences, where artists will inspire audiences to reimagine nightlife through the power of creativity.


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Guide 6: Define an Evaluation Plan Up Front
Think ahead--evaluation is integral to the progam plan
Up to this point in developing a community health information program, you have analyzed community needs and developed related goals and activities to address them. In addition, the underlying assumptions about intended accomplishments (outputs) and results (outcomes) are well defined and clarified in your program logic model.
The next step-- developing a realistic and meaningful evaluation plan-- is important to think through while in the planning stage, and not as an afterthought when your program is near completion.
Why is evaluation important?
If done well, an evaluation of selected outputs and outcomes helps to sharpen an outreach focus; provide accountability to our funders, managers, or administrators; improve quality and effectiveness; and better understand what has been achieved and the impact made.
Programs can usually track a program's outputs, in terms of the amount, quality, or volume of use of products or services. Output measurements help to track a program's implementation and whether the program is achieving what it set out to do.
But, even if the products, services, or activities are put in place as planned, there is always the nagging question about what differences (outcomes) the program makes for the participants and community involved.
At the 2003 Quintessential meeting in Philadelphia, the Institute of Museum and Library Services gave a thorough presentation about evaluation planning focusing on outcomes, titled A Case for Libraries: Why Outcomes Matter. Featured is a health information program called "Library RX" for public library staff in West Dakota. The intended outcomes are that public library staff will have basic computer skills, be information literate, and find high-quality health information quickly.
What does an evaluation plan include?
The challenge of planning an evaluation is to determine realistic priorities about what will be assessed and how best to gather and analyze the measurements you obtain.
Refer back to the program
Outpus and outcomes can be measured once you have identified the type of data you will collect. An evaluation plan puts it all together and sorts out:
b. how will it be analyzed (by who? how?)
c. how will it be reported, disseminated and used (for what decisions or purpose?)
Some negative perceptions and fears about evaluation stem from a feeling that it involves a lot of effort and that results are not always used. It's true that an evaluation plan should be realistic. As a general rule of thumb, allocate 5% of the total program budget to evaluation efforts. This means making priorities about what you want to find out and why, including what you will do with the results. Think about your stakeholders and what they most want to know. Imagine the range of possible results from your evaluation, and how you will use that information.
The efforts to think ahead about what you want to find out and why will not only help with data collection planning, it will help you frame the right questions and avoid collecting data just to say you have done an evaluation.
Resources for evaluation planning
To help you think through components of the evaluation plan, the Institute of Museum and Library Services tutorial for National Leadership Grants includes an excellent section on the Evaluation Approach. This tutorial includes
For a completed example based on the IMLS templates, see an outputs and outcomes evaluation plan for
For a guide to planning and evaluating health information programs, see Measuring the Difference: Guide to Planning and Evaluating Health Information Outreach. This 130-page guide is a primer (including tools and resources) developed by the National Network of Libraries of Medicine, Pacific Northwest Region and the National Library of Medicine. To receive a single free copy, send an email request for "evaluation guide" to email@example.com. Include your name and mailing address.
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Grave matters: What happens if you have to move a grave?
Without a new location to rest in peace, a few Williamstown residents might have been lost forever to history under a major highway project.
When construction of Interstate 77 began in the 1950s and came into Williamstown, the small cemetery, the graves of the Bukey family and perhaps other pioneer residents, stood in its way.
Fewer than 10 gravesites were relocated to Riverview Cemetery on Waverly Road, said cemetery manager and funeral home owner Bill Peoples.
That gave Uriah, Lesikia and Drusilla a new resting place.
Moving cemeteries used to be a lot more commonplace, when a burial place was threatened by flooding or other natural disasters or when they got in the way of a new bridge, water facilities or other development. In the 19th century, it was done without much record keeping, if any. In some cases, the headstones were moved to safety, leaving the graves and remains to suffer whatever fate befell them. Nowadays, the process is much more controlled and regulated by governments, churches and historical groups.
Peoples, along with his wife, Pat, own Peoples Funeral Home and has managed Riverview Cemetery for about eight years.
He said moving a cemetery isn't that difficult for those who have the right equipment and all the paperwork in place.
"Building reservoirs (and other public works), there would be little cemeteries needing to be moved," Peoples said. "We don't see that kind of thing anymore."
Some people might surmise that a portion of Harmar Cemetery had been relocated because of construction of the Washington Street Bridge and Fort Harmar Drive in the 1950s.
But Marietta Mayor Joe Matthews had no recollection of the construction affecting Harmar Cemetery before or during the highway construction.
Moving that cemetery would be a very tedious project, to contact all the family members, many of whom might have been long gone and to get all the permits from the state, Matthews said.
Ernie Thode, former director of Washington County's Local History and Genealogy Library, agrees.
"It may have been affected," Thode said. "Or they might have worked around it."
Moving a cemetery or even a few graves becomes necessary when development or disaster get in the way.
"When a cemetery encroaches on a state right-of-way, such as a state highway, ODOT contacts the county sheriff and coroner," said David Rose, Ohio Department of Transportation District 10 communications manager. "We work with an archaeologist or undertaker. We uncover them, take photographs and take care of information. The township or municipality might donate some land in another cemetery and relocate the remains."
When a person's remains are moved, Rose said the same process is followed, however; all photos and information are kept at both sites. The sheriff or coroner also would notify the next of kin.
In Washington County, several cemeteries have been subjected to having graves moved.
The original Belpre cemetery, Cedarville, was at the end of today's Cross Street (the neighborhood behind Domino's Pizza on Washington Boulevard.) That area was home to evergreen trees, especially cedar, giving the area that name, according to "Williams History of Washington County, Ohio."
The original settlers soon decided it was a mistake to establish a cemetery in the area along the bank of the Ohio River. The river started to eat away at the bank, sending many coffins afloat down the river.
"Most of the names of those washed away were never recorded," said Charlotte Powell, secretary, curator and genealogist at the Belpre Historical Society Museum, 509 Ridge St.
Powell said the rest were moved to Rockland Cemetery, established in the 1820s, on Washington Boulevard for their permanent resting place. Some of the early settlers also have moved their ancestors from Cedarville to Rockland before they were threatened by the river erosion.
Local historian Kurt Ludwig, of Marietta, said the late Marietta College English Professor Dr. Owen Hawley, in his book, "Mound Cemetery of Marietta," described at least three burial grounds – one under the current carriage house at American Legion Post, one at Third and Wooster streets and the last at Warren and Third streets that were outside the larger cemeteries: Mound, Oak Grove and Harmar.
Phill Crane, with the Lower Muskingum Historical Society, said he fears whole cemeteries might have been wiped out locally because of road construction and eminent domain, the practice in which local governments can take land for development.
That was true in the 1930s, when the Tennessee Valley Authority built dams for flood control and electricity, Thode said.


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I'm with all the other mommies here- your son is fine, and your pediatrician doesn't know much about breastfeeding!
75th percentile for height and 50th percentile for weight sounds absolutely great to me! There's nothing wrong with being tall and slender, especially with the epidemic of childhood obesity that's going on! It's also totally normal for a breastfed baby to stop gaining weight as quickly after 6 months, and slide down the charts. Once he's mobile and burning lots of calories, the baby chub start to melt away. Formula-fed babies, on the other hand, tend to bulk up in the second half of the second year- and yet, for some crazy reason, it's the formula-fed babies who are the standard!
You might want to give this abstract from the journal Pediatrics to your pediatrician the next time you visit. Perhaps it will stop him from giving bad advice to other nursing moms! And you might want to hang on to this one for yourself- it should convince you that you are doing everything right!


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Cleveland's police chief says 12 supervisors will face disciplinary charges for their role in last November's police chase that ended in the shooting deaths of two unarmed people. Ideastream's Nick Castele reports.
There were 46 supervisors on duty the night of the chase. A dozen now face disciplinary charges – including a captain, a lieutenant and ten sergeants. They oversaw the chase that involved dozens of cars and officers.
Police Chief Michael McGrath says investigating the incident has been trying for everyone connected to it.
MCGRATH: "It's difficult for the victims who died, it's difficult for their families, it's difficult for the community and it's really difficult for the Division of Police. But this is a process to be fair, transparent, to try to figure out what happened and move forward and make things better. That's what this is all about."
Supervisors next will attend disciplinary hearings expected to be scheduled for the middle of May.
Some of the officers could face a 10-day suspension, and others face the possibility of being fired, although all could receive lesser punishments.
Brian Betley, president of the Fraternal Order of Police, says it's too early to say if supervisors will plead guilty, not guilty or no contest to their charges.
BETLEY: "What'll happen is we'll have that hearing, those members will get their say to explain their actions or inactions and why they did what they did on that particular night and be able to answer to all the specifications in the charges."
Betley says police deserve credit that no bystanders were hurt during the chase.
At an earlier press conference, McGrath said about 100 police officers also may have broken the rules, and could face discipline.
Also undecided is whether Cuyahoga County Prosecutor Tim McGinty will press criminal charges against any of the 13 officers who fired their weapons that night.


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just lookin at that makes me notice that we have the worst D in the league
Knicks @ Detroit tonight @ 7:30pm ET
Just a couple of quick notes on last nights game.....
-Larry Hughes >> Q-Rich
I think Hughes' problem was that he wasnt playing in an open system while he was in Cleveland and Chicago. Once upon a time he averaged 22 points per game with the Wizards. Hes looking like a good player again now that hes in more of an open system. I really like his defense too, hes got great hands (no homo)
-I like the **** (no homo)
Hes a much better defender then I think anyone would have guessed. Hes got good reflexes and very good instincts. I know he didnt score last night, but I think hes a keeper.
-Chris Duhorn is a bum
Turnover prone, and hes an average defender...nothing spectacular, like he was falsely advertised to be. Whys he even in the starting lineup? Duhorn stans will get upset and say stuff like "oh what about when he set that record against the Warriors" shut ya bumba Duhorn is a bum....ba
And one quick note about tonights game....
I believe that Iverson is still out, but Detroit has played better without him. They are a tough team but if we bring our A game and make our shots, we can win. If we play like pansys with no heart, we will lose. Its as simple as that.
Have a good night fellas, enjoy the game
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I always forget we have a game on the second night of back to backs lol.
We've beaten Detroit in the past. We need this win if we have any hopes of making the playoffs. In fact, this is probably the deciding game. They need to go and play like it is.
I really hope Nate starts this game. Duhon always starts the game with a turnover, and it kills any momentum we have. Besides the fact he never pushes the ball. Nate brings energy and excitement to start the game.
this would be a nice win if we can get it..we got some tough teams coming up in magic and cavs so we need to get what we can..Bulls are playn magic tonight, so they'll prob lose..Bucks are takin on Golden State so idk bout that one...Nets are off and so are Hornets i think..
no Wallace tonight so hopefully that'll be nice
ahah whoops...i think bobcats are playn hornets next game or something ha...
playn pretty well right now, neck and neck so far..Dlee has to keep goin at their center keep the fouls coming
As I, and several other members of the site have said, Larry Hughes sucks. Some of you, after last night's lucky performance, thought he was a superstar. This guy stinks and will continue stinking, with a rare decent shooting night. If he learns his role: play D, pass and only take layups - he'll do himself, and the team, a lot of good. Otherwise, he's a huge liability.
Right now, a big reason we're losing to Detroit is his cancerous shooting, which has rubbed off on some of the other players.
WTF is jeffries doing leaving mcdyess open???????? why is he out in the first place!!!!! put chandler on him at least wtf!!!!
wow they played great in the 4th quarter. they have to win this game.
Damn player-centric usernames straight to hell.
Why isn't nate on the floor? There's really no one on the floor who can create his own shot.
Bulls Lost
I Hope Crawford murks NJ.
edit: if hes played. dont know why nelson aint playin him much...


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Obama's Decision To Put US Forces On The Ground In Jordan Is Lunacy
Did you know that Barack Obama has made the utterly bizarre decision to put American troops on the ground in Jordan
The United States has sent military troops to the Jordan-Syria border to bolster that country's military capabilities in the event that violence escalates along its border with Syria, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said Wednesday.
Speaking at a NATO conference of defense ministers in Brussels, Panetta said the U.S. has been working with Jordan to monitor chemical and biological weapons sites in Syria and also to help Jordan deal with refugees pouring over the border from Syria. The troops are also building a headquarters for themselves.
But the revelation of U.S. military personnel so close to the 19-month-old Syrian conflict suggests an escalation in the U.S. military involvement in the conflict, even as Washington pushes back on any suggestion of a direct intervention in Syria.
Barack Obama is putting American troops at risk by placing them on the ground in Jordan. It opens our soldiers up to terrorist attacks and the idea that they could be involved in potential fighting on the Jordanian border is insane. We have no national interest in Jordan or Syria and putting our troops in the middle of that mess is risking their lives so Barack Obama can feel like a big man. It's ridiculous, it's foolish, and Republicans should cut off the funds for the mission unless Barack Obama can explain to the American people why we're risking the lives of American troops in Jordan.
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Layered squash, barley & spinach pie
Nutrition and extra info
- Vegetarian
Nutrition: per serving (8)
- kcal889
- fat49g
- saturates24g
- carbs99g
- sugars13g
- fibre0g
- protein19g
- salt1.31g
For the filling
- 1 small butternut squash (about 1kg/2lb 4oz), peeled and cubed
- 3 tbsp olive oil, plus a little extra for brushing
Olive oilol-iv oyl
Probably the most widely-used oil in cooking, olive oil is pressed from fresh olives. It's…
- 3 onion, finely chopped
Onions are endlessly versatile and an essential ingredient in countless recipes. Native to Asia…
- 3 garlic clove, crushed
- 100g mushroom, sliced
The mushroom is a fungus which comes in a wide range of varieties that belong to two distinct…
- 85g whole cooked chestnut, quartered
'Chestnuts roasting on an open fire...' that kitsch old Nat King Cole song perfectly…
- 100g pearl barley
- 1.2l vegetable stock
- 1 tbsp dark soy sauce
Soy saucesoy sor-s
An Asian condiment and ingredient that comes in a variety of of varieties ranging from light to…
- zest 1 lemon
Oval in shape, with a pronouced bulge on one end, lemons are one of the most versatile fruits…
- 250g/9oz tub ricotta
Ricotta is an Italian curd cheese. Made from whey, it is traditionally a by-product of making…
- 200g full-fat soft cheese
- ½ x 20g/1oz pack sage, leaves picked and chopped
Popular in both Italian and British cookery, sage has long, grey-green leaves with a slightly…
- 400g baby spinach
- 20g pack parsley, leaves chopped
One of the most ubiquitous herbs in British cookery, parsley is also popular in European and…
For the pastry
- 700g plain flour
- 140g butter
Butter is made when lactic-acid producing bacteria are added to cream and churned to make an…
- 85g/3oz white vegetable shortening (we used Trex)
- 100ml milk
One of the most widely used ingredients, milk is often referred to as a complete food. While cow…
- 1 egg, lightly beaten
The ultimate convenience food, eggs are powerhouses of nutrition, packed with protein and a…
- few bay leaves (optional)
Heat oven to 200C/fan 180C/gas 6 and roast the butternut squash with 1 tbsp oil for 25-30 mins until tender, then set aside.
Meanwhile, heat remaining oil in a large pan and cook the onions and garlic for 10 mins until soft. Remove two-thirds, then add the mushrooms, chestnuts and pearl barley to the pan. Sizzle for a few mins, pour in the stock, then bring to the boil. Bubble fiercely for 30 mins until the barley is tender and sticky and there is no liquid left. Stir in the soy sauce, season and set aside.
While the barley layer is cooking, make the other layers. Stir the zest, ricotta, soft cheese and a good amount of seasoning into the reserved onions until smooth. Take a third of the mixture and gently fold with the sage and roasted squash. For the final layer, boil the kettle, then tip half the spinach into a large colander. Pour over the boiling water to wilt, then repeat with the rest of the spinach. Tip the spinach onto a clean tea towel and squeeze out all the moisture you can. Roughly chop, then mix into the remaining ricotta mixture with the parsley.
To make the pie, brush a 900g loaf tin with a little oil. Make 3 long triplelayer strips of foil and lay these across the width of the tin to help you lift out the pie to serve. Tip flour and 3 tsp salt into the largest bowl you have and gently melt the butter, shortening and milk with 200ml water in a pan. Once melted, increase heat until bubbling fiercely, tip onto the flour, then quickly beat with a wooden spoon until combined. Don't worry if some powdery bits remain. Once cool enough to handle, knead until it comes together, then tip onto your work surface. Set aside a third and roll the rest into a large rectangle – big enough to line the tin with a little overhanging.
Ease into the tin, pressing evenly into the corners and sides – you can be rough with it. Spoon in the spinach layer, smooth the surface, then repeat with the barley and finally the squash layer. Dome the squash mix slightly to give a rounded top. Roll out the remaining pastry to fit, brush the edges with some egg, then press the lid over the top. Trim the excess and crimp or pinch to seal, then decorate with pastry trimmings cut into leaves (add bay leaves, if using, when the pie has 30 mins left in the oven). Can be covered and chilled overnight.
Heat oven to 200C/fan 180C/gas 6 and put a large baking sheet inside. Brush the surface of the pie with egg, lift onto the heated baking tray and bake for 30 mins, then reduce the heat to 180C/fan 160C/gas 4 and bake for a further 1 hr 30 mins until the pastry is golden brown and feels hard. Stand for 15-20 mins while you get the rest of the meal ready – the pie will stay warm. Gently tip out the pie, or use the foil strips to lift out carefully. Carry to the table and slice thickly to serve.
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I used shop bought ready rolled pastry to cut down time. Cooked the three separate layers on Monday, thought at the time that there was an awful lot of each to fit in a 2lb loaf tin and I was right. in the end I used about 2/3 or spinach and barley mixtures to leave enough room for top layer. For barley layer I found I needed to stir continuously once water level dropped as otherwise mixture was sticking to pan. Some parts of recipe time consuming and fiddly, like zesting a whole lemon. Next time I would substitute a couple of squirts of Jif. Was taking dish to sister-in-law's house for family Christmas dinner so made pie up on Tuesday and part baked, using lowest shelf on top oven at 180 (not fan) but that still meant that top was well done after 48 minutes. Took pie covered in foil, so foil everywhere, and went in oven at fan 160 for a further 30 minutes. Biggest issue was getting it out of non-stick, oiled and triple layered aluminium strips pan. If I was doing again I would use tripled layer foil across at 3 points and also one lengthwise as the pie is pretty heavy and needs more help out of the tin. Whole thing took longer than recipe, largely due to the preparation time,
Took about three hours to make & bake (I made the night before, froze it and baked from chilled). The quantities of filling are far too much for the loaf tin specified - even though I did precariously pile the squash at the top to give it some height!
Recipe doesn't tell you how thin to roll your pastry out - don't make it too thick as it does get stodgy otherwise. Definitely needs more herbs and seasoning (I liberally jazzed this one - za'atar for the squash, dried porcini mushrooms in the risotto and grated nutmeg in the spinach), but as a basic recipe to work on, it's a very decent vegetarian pie!
I made this at the weekend for a pre-Christmas Christmas Dinner and everyone LOVED it; will definitely making again and I'm sure will become a firm favourite!
2 tips: do not underestimate the time it takes to prep and bake!! I made my own rye pastry too, I started at noon and we ate just before 5pm (many mince pies were consumed in the interim!)
I really disliked the lemon zest, although the others loved it I wouldn't add it again.
This worked out amazing for me and I am still getting requests from the carnivore boyfriend to make it again! I used supermarket pastry to cut down on the prep time (and i guess resolved the saltyness issue that others experienced) and I roasted the squash/ made the mushroom/ barley mixture the night before so on the day i just had to mix, layer and combine. Strangely enough, I think the winning step to the really nice flavour of the pie was using quite a strong herb flavoured stock as the barley picked it up beautifully (I used the new gel type stock dissolving ones). As this had such an impact on flavour i would definitely not skimp by using powder/cubes! The only other tip i would suggest is not roasting the chestnuts yourself and pre-buying them if you can. It's a lot of effort for so little meat (plus the exploding factor). In all fairness next time i would prob leave that ingredient out as you could barely taste it. Good luck!
I made this for Christmas dinner. I didn't find it that difficult to make and was very intrigued by the hot pastry mix. It looked amazing as it came out of the oven but sadly the sides couldn't cope with the weight of the pie so they collapsed. I think I may have taken it out a bit too early. I have to say that it tasted amazing though, will definitely give it another go. I really enjoyed making it.
This was really tasty! I made it for a vegetarian this Christmas and it was a huge success. However... 1. It is not moderately easy - I'm pretty adept at following recipes but this was quite tricky. 2. the recommended tin size is far far too small - I ended up using a 7" square cake tin. 3. I would highly recommend cooking this the day before you need it - it's all very well saying do the veggies etc whilst the pie is cooking but it's much more hassle than a turkey!
Totally worth the effort though and you'd get more than 8 servings out of it.
I made this for Christmas dinner. I left out the chestnuts as I couldn't find any and halved the salt in the pastry. It was quite a lengthy process but no more so than a lasagne really. It was a very popular choice at dinner, even among the meat eaters. I will definitely make it again, it was very flavorsome and well worth the effort.
I didn't read the comments before attempting this. Yes, lots of dishes and preparation. The layers tasted good, managed to squeeze all into a standard loaf tin as I cut down on the spinach and butternut. I have put it in fridge to bake for family dinner tomorrow (includes one vegetarian), along with other dishes. So will see how it turns out and what they say. Took me nearly 4 hours to prepare, had to keep rereading the recipe. Very tiring and complicated. Have pastry left over. Don't know whether I will make it again, it's labour intensive.
Very sucessful Christmas dinner today! Went perfect with the "make ahead gravy" and a selection of roasted veg.
I took the advise of previous comments and made half the quantity. Fitted nicely into my bread tin. Had enough for 4 generous portions. Also got frozen ready made pastry which cut down on some work.
Will make again. Lovely.
I turned these into individual pies using shop bought shortcrust, as my pastry is only good for building extensions. A bit of a faff to make but tasted good enough. Used fine lemon zest rather than juice (see why below) and chucked in a handful of pine nuts and twice as much parsley. I may use bulgar wheat next time instead of barley. Check your ricotta tub. It may not be veggie-friendly. I made my own cottage cheese with soy milk and lemon juice... Hmm. Maybe I'll use Philly next time!
I made this for Christmas 2011 and it was a hit with my partner and the rest of my family. I cheated and used the pastry from the supermarket and I was left a little short but it was tasty regardless. Next time I make it, the preparation shouldn't take too long. Thoroughly enjoyed it. It was fairly long winded and I did have to re-read most of the directions. Would love if a video of all the recipes were included as well.
I made this for my (vegetarian) sister's Christmas dinner. It was a bit fiddly and took a while to prepare but more than worth it. It actually made enough for 2 pies so was a welcome addition to a Christmas Eve buffet lunch.
The pastry was superb, really easy and the nicest I have ever cooked, I will use the pastry recipe in any savoury pies in the future, lovely light and crisp
I made this as the veggie option for myself and one other veggie for a family roast dinner. It went really well with all the roast trimmings and everyone (including the meat eaters) really enjoyed it. I cheated and used shop-bought shortcrust pastry and this worked fine. I had a little bit of the filling ingredients leftover, but not much at all (enough for a taste to check it was all OK!). I found it easy to make, it's just takes time and creates a lot of washing up because you have to make all the different layers in separate stages. I thought using ready made pastry would reduce the preparation time and I'm glad I did this. But I would definitely make it again... and was asked for the recipe by everyone who tried it.
Always worrying when someone cannot even get something as basic as the ingredient quantities right. I have just made this for Xmas and had enough to do two pies. I used the correct size of tin so not that. We cannot eat two of them so half the ingredients went in the bin. It looks yummy but I will check the reviews before I try another recipe from this site.
I made this last year for Christmas dinner, it was such a success I have had requests to repeat it. I did end up with 2 loaf tins (my tins weren't huge) of pie which wasn't a bad thing as it is super yummy a day after. Really good flavour combinations and the lemon gives a really fresh kick to the dish. Lovely.
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State Rep. Mike Tryon issued the following news release:
CRYSTAL LAKE – State Rep. Mike Tryon (R-Crystal Lake) has announced that his legislative office has moved to a central location in his new legislative district.
The move took place on Wednesday, January 16, and Internet and phone service will be fully functional by Tuesday, January 22. Email and phone messages are being checked regularly.
The new office address will be 1500 Carlemont Drive, Suite D, off of Randall Road, between Ackman and Village Roads, in the Randall North Business Center.
"While I will continue to represent some residents from Crystal Lake, Algonquin, Lake in the Hills and Huntley, my new district will also now include residents from the northern Kane County communities of East and West Dundee, Sleepy Hollow, Gilberts, Carpentersville and Elgin," he said. "I believe this new location off of Randall Road near the Crystal Lake/Lake in the Hills border will provide easy access for all of my constituents."
Office hours beginning January 22 will be 8:30 am to 4:3 0pm, and the office phone number will remain (815) 459-6453. Constituents may continue to email Rep. Tryon at firstname.lastname@example.com, but the legislative web site has changed towww.michaeltryon66.com.
Based on 2010 Census data, legislative boundary lines were changed for all House and Senate districts. Tryon, who represented District 64 since his election to the Illinois House in 2004, now represents District 66, which includes all or a portion of ten communities in southern McHenry County and Northern Kane County. Under the new map he will be "nested" with State Rep. Tim Schmitz (R-Geneva), within Illinois Senate District 33, held by Senator Karen McConnaughay (R-St. Charles).


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"Nobody can do everything, but everybody can do something."
It is with deep appreciation that we thank faculty and staff members who have given in the 2012-2013 school year. We are proud to announce that at the end of the Fiscal Year, June 30th, 2013, our faculty and staff participated in our faculty/staff campaign with 60% -- up from 47% last year. Thank you.
One of the many things that makes Albion College such a wonderful place to live and learn is the friendly and welcoming community that our faculty and staff provides to our students. As a community not only do faculty and staff give student the best educational experiences, many show their own dedication by making a gift to the college to ensure that Albion will continue to provide the very best education.
Whether you give to the annual fund, a department, scholarships or anything else. No matter the size. Every gift counts. Help us reach our goal in surpassing 60% participation before November 8th. Together we make Albion strong.
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On the black Star Trek t-shirt - Beam Me Out, Captain Kirk, Spock and Bones are looking ready to say, "Beam Me Up, Scotty." But Kirk abandons his usual line, and the caption reads "Beam Me the Hell Outta Here." The Star Trek TV show shirt with the beam-me-out theme proves Captain Kirk is a man who knows when to ditch and run.
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Hulu: The Missed Opportunity to Crush Netflix and Transform the Cable Model
For example, in social media, there's no question: Twitter (Proposed Ticker: TWIT) and Facebook (FB) should merge . But ego and hipster/engineering-geek (strange mix, I know) posturing keeps that from even making the radar.
In the new media vs. old guard media's sort-of-on, sort-of-off relationship, you hear loads of It will never happen because ...
Believe me, I understand this. I can get with the walled garden approach. Ultimately, I even advocate Time Warner's (TWX) approach to disseminating its content over Disney's (DIS) , at least insofar as the latter's recent deal with Netflix (NFLX) is concerned.
But, why even give Netflix the time of day to begin with? I'll never understand that. If I own the key content, I do one of two things:
One, I continue along with the disparate offerings. HBO GO here and WatchESPN there. You know -- the idea of TV Everywhere where content providers create their own Web platforms and distribute the content to pay-TV subscribers and/or viewers who subscribe to the standalone digital service. The former is, at the moment, much more common.
Two, I monitor the heck out of consumer behavior and, if I give anything up to a "third party," I give it up to Hulu. Forget Netflix. Even forget Amazon.com (AMZN) .
Near term you will not collect the type of icing-on-the-cake revenue Disney just extracted from Netflix or CBS (CBS) brags about generating via licensing deals on its quarterly conference calls, but long term, you're building a healthier, less messy industry.
CBS executives sound smart today by picking up money that's right in front of them, but it's short-sighted and dangerous. They're hurting their company. They're hurting Netflix. And they're hurting the business. It's akin to taking your turn with the loose high school cheerleader. Immediate payoff, but nobody wins in the end.
Forgo instant gratification for a clean, safe and thriving old guard media turned new media powerhouse later.
All individual programming that goes digital should go digital through Hulu. And the now-disparate TV Everywhere offerings should come as a la carte options on Hulu. Give the customer the ability to pick and choose, spend less than $100 a month to get everything they want, excluding sports season packages and cut the cord, without regret, if that's their inclination.
Tell Netflix to take a hike when it says it should be an a la carte offering. That's a bogus smoke-and-mirrors proposition by Reed Hastings until he directly owns enough original content to put forth a worthy platform.


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A glittering prize to add to your lapel. Silver-plated brooch has a black cabochon center among petals of hand-set Czech crystals sparkling brightly. More is more! Group with the Silvertone Crystal Bow Pin and Starburst Pin. Dimensional casting of nickel-free metal. About 1.25" wide.
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