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Skip to comments.No More Boring White Guys for the GOP
Posted on 08/08/2012 1:52:03 AM PDT by Kaslin
"A friend of mine, a Hispanic entrepreneur, asked me a question some time ago. He said, 'When is the last time you saw a Hispanic panhandler?' I think it's a great question. I'll tell you, in my life I never once have seen a Hispanic panhandler, because in our community it would be viewed as shameful to be out on the street begging."
That was Republican U.S. Senate candidate Ted Cruz of Texas on "Fox News Sunday." He went on to make the case that Latinos are culturally conservative and economically entrepreneurial.
Just for the record, I've seen a Latino panhandler or two. Or at least I think they were Latino -- I don't usually quiz panhandlers about their ethnic backgrounds.
But Cruz is right that there do seem to be fewer Latino beggars than other ethnicities (though in my experience, Asian-Americans are the biggest shirkers when it comes to creating an ethnically diverse lumpenproletariat), and I think Cruz's pride in this fact is refreshing -- and helpful.
I've been saying for a while now that this is the last presidential election in American history where the GOP will benefit from having a boring white guy as the presidential nominee.
This is not a point about racial animosity toward Barack Obama, perhaps the most exaggerated issue of the last four years. The key, as it relates to 2012, is not the white part of that formulation, it's the boring part. The operatic nature of Obama's campaign in 2008 and his inability to live up to the expectations he set for himself have created a market for bland Mr. Fixit types.
But going forward, the GOP needs to figure out a way to become more appealing to new constituencies, particularly younger voters and Latinos.
Boring white guys aren't great for that project. But candidates like Ted Cruz are.
It's hardly a novel insight that the GOP needs to deal with America's changing demographics. Inside the Beltway, the conventional explanation for how Republicans should do that tends to boil down to pandering and capitulation. For instance, Hispanics care about immigration, we're told, therefore Republicans should adopt the same policies as the Democrats.
The substance of those policies aside, there are political problems with this thinking. First, Republicans rarely if ever win such bidding wars.
Second, there's a faulty assumption here: that various ethnicities, and young people generally, are both monolithic and hardwired to support certain policies and are therefore immune to persuasion.
But young people almost by definition believe in things they eventually grow out of. The same goes for Latino voters, who are not monolithic in almost any sense: racially, ethnically, religiously or ideologically.
For instance, contrary to much of what you've heard in the press, the Latino vote in the United States has been growing less Democratic over the last 30 years, according to Sean Trende, the senior elections analyst for RealClearPolitics.com. Moreover, illegal immigration is nowhere near as important an issue for Latinos (as opposed to Latino activists) as the press makes it seem. In 2008, less than half (46 percent) of Latino voters who voted Democratic told exist pollsters that the issue was either "very" or "extremely" important to them. And nearly a third of Latinos who considered illegal immigration "very" or "extremely" important voted Republican.
Trende argues that most of the Democratic advantage among Latinos can be explained by income. Poor people tend to vote Democratic. There are a lot of poor Latinos in the U.S. Still, if you control for income, the Latino voter becomes less distinct from the average voter.
In short, Latinos lean decidedly Democratic, but they are decidedly persuadable as well. And young politicians like Cruz -- and Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, also of Cuban descent -- have a better shot at persuading them.
White Republican politicians tend to be terrified of racial and ethnic activists and the journalists who empower them. This results in many GOP pols sounding condescending, pandering or dull when they try to reach out to minorities.
Young, energetic, whip-smart and philosophically coherent politicians like Cruz and Rubio can confidently appeal to Latinos without sounding condescending and without caving to liberal assumptions about how to win over Latinos. They're also harder to demonize.
I mean, just imagine if Romney had mused about the nation's dearth of Hispanic panhandlers.
>> 'When is the last time you saw a Hispanic panhandler?'
When is the last time you saw an Amish gang-banger?
Oops, we're courting minorities... forgot.
Boring White guys built this country...
I don't see a lot of Hispanic panhandlers, but I see a lot of them lined out the door of the local welfare office, in public housing, and pulling out the EBT Food Stamp cards to pay for food for their truckload of anchor babies in tow.
Ironically, I have also learned that the white dude begging for change on the streets has no clue what kind of social services he may be entitled to.
I do volunteer work, so I come in contact with these folks all the time.
If the illegals weren't sucking up all the public resources, then maybe there wouldn't be Americans begging on the streets.
Put that on a bumper sticker.
This. For a minority that's (purportedly, at any rate) "culturally conservative," an inordinate number certainly do seem both practiced AT and eager TO BE living la vida liberal, lifestyle-wise.
(... and we won't get into the whole "how 'conservative' can your preferred sub-group genuinely be -- culturally or otherwise -- when so many millions upon millions of same knowingly and enthusiastically violate multiple federal laws in arriving here, to begin with...?" thing.)
I guess his "friend" has never been near a welfare office, or near an EBT checkout, or near a Home Depot.
What's wrong with that? I never go near a welfare office or EBT "checkout" either. However, I can't fault the people hanging out near Home Depot. At least they are looking to work for their money, I don't consider them panhandlers at all.
The truth you speak is there. One only need to look at the illegal hispanic mamas pushing the carts containing their anchor babies down the street en masse to the local grocery store where they'll redeem their WICs certificates, spend their TANF money with their EBT card.
All this while their 'husbands' are out standing by the local gas station to get $10/hour pay for which he'll pay NO taxes. When he falls off a roof, the ambulance will take him to the emergency room where you and I will pay the bill.
I lived in San Diego for 30 years. Yes there are Hispanic panhandlers and I'm not talking about the ones lined up on El Camino Real in the mornings looking for day laborer Jobs.
I've seen more Hispanic panhandlers than black panhandlers — but white panhandlers are the more prevalent.
I have never ever seen an Asian panhandler
The hardest working guys I ever saw were Latino waiters in some of the Manhattan restaurants where I used to work. These guys worked like dogs. One guy worked a full month of doubles and this was on his feet, every day, uptempo, dealing with the public, moving the whole time. He was exhausted, but he kept going. I did the same thing, but only for short periods of time.
In all my years in NYC, I've never seen a Hispanic panhandler. Never thought about it before. Only whites and blacks do it, I guess.
How about we start this debate in December, 2012 - rather than August?
I was held up at gunpoint by a hispanic. Yeah, they are pillars of society. Yeah, one can generalize about an entire non-race (hispanics can be any race according to the govt).
That was sarcasm, in case people can't tell. Hispanics like Sikhs and muslims, built this country. That is sarcasm too.
Obama keeps letting them into the U.S.A. . This is why Americans are begging on the street as immigrants have taken any jobs that are available.
This has to stop.
Obama keeps letting them into the U.S.A. . This is why Americans are begging on the street as immigrants have taken any jobs that are available.
This has to stop. Go back to your country you sick pukes. This is my country.We have no jobs in this Obama economy.
What's to appeal to? Latinos? I thought we were all the same?
They got scams up the kazoo: numerous latino identity brokers are selling fake driver's licenses, passports, EITC applications----two Texas latinos travel the US setting up "one-stop shops" in motels using highly sophisticated tech to mfg a myriad of fake US documents which "impoverished" illegals buy for several thousand dollars----including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses----for any state in the US------ passports and resident alien cards.
At one point, the US State Dept would not accept passports from a NJ passport office (run by a latino) b/c they were mostly fraudulent.
Cruz is an anamoly----firstly he's Cuban latino----they are typically more conservative and self sustaining than other latinos. Significantly, most of the Cubans here fled to the US when Castro took over------they abhor Communism and its offshoots.
OTOH, Mexican, Puerto Ricans and other Third Worlders violating our borders are mostly Marxist-socialist freeloaders ----- who DO NOT LIKE Cubans.
My city is being overrun by foreign peoples. I see an ocean of foreign Mexicans, Hispanics, Muslims, Pakistanis, Somalis, Africans, Asians, Haitans , every damn thing, etc.
Obama keeps letting them into the U.S.A. . Obama will unconstitutionally grant them all Amnesty by decree. This is why Americans are begging on the street as immigrants have taken any jobs that are available.
This has to stop. Go back to your country you sick pukes. This is my country.We have no jobs in this Obama economy.
I jumped on that comment days ago on another thread.
It makes you wonder what he is up to. Much more common is latinos on food stamps and other welfare programs, some who cannot read or speak English and many are illegals or children of illegals. I see them here in grocery stores in Maryland holding up the line because they pick non WIC valid foods and try to use the card for them.
the latino begger is a straw man cruz made up just to shoot down.
The US is unique among nations b/c we are a nation of laws---AND WE WANT OUR LAWS OBEYED----
Cruz is really dumb ---pretending not to know about all of this---read on.
ICE's "documents and benefits fraud task force" found a common practice among "impoverished" illegals is to buy several faked identities for several thousand dollars each----the illegal then votes and rides the US gravy train under several names.
<><> Jose Madrigal---the Washington state rapist---had some 30 identities. And probably voted and collected US benefits under every single identity.
<><> Another illegal used multiple identites to bilk UI systems of some $3.5 million.
US Dept of the Treasury Says Illegal Aliens Collecting Billions in Tax Credits According to the US Dept of Treasurys Inspector General, more than $4.2 billion in additional child credits were paid out in 2010 to illegal immigrants. In 2005, the pay outs totaled $924 million. This program allows low income earners to claim a $1,000 per child credit. $20 billion EITC is estimated to have been paid out to these cunning "impoverished" illegals. Most of them are collecting over and over again-----using multiple identities-----falsifying official apps---claiming children they do not have and/or falsely stating kids are back in their homelands.
REFERENCE March 8, 2012 KENNER, La. -- Kenner police arrested illegal Marvin Baca who sold false W-2 forms to another illegal immigrant for $1,500. Baca sold fraudulent W-2 forms for $1,500 to other Hispanics here illegally.
Police said that on one of the forged W-2 forms had a SS no of a person living in Virginia. Police said illegal Hispanics purchase fictitious W-2 forms and file false tax returns with the government to receive EITC refunds. Baca was charged with one count of ID theft and two counts of forgery.
I get disgusted when I see comments like "boring white guys". This is quickly becoming "No country for white men". We should all take a day off at the same time. Let the grand and great minorities see how well they can do with out us. Let the woman see how well they do with out our protection. This sort of thing makes me want to go Galt and let everyone else goddamn rot.
The Congressional Hispanic Institute, Inc, is an entity organized by Cong Joe Baca (D-Cali) in his capacity as head of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus.
Cong Baca created "HOGAR" (Spanish for home) in 2003 to work with the mortgage industry, lender and banks and latino community groups to increase mortgage lending to what savvy observers considered to be unqualified Latinos.
"HOGAR" colluded w/ Cong BAca in what was to become a massive bilking of taxpayers. Cong Baca calculatedly hyped the fact that the national Latino homeownership rate was 47%, compared with 68% for the overall population.
HOGAR was coached to call the figure "alarming," and to say "a concerted effort was required to ensure that by the end of the decade Latinos will share equally in the American Dream of home ownership."
HOGAR and Cong Baca conned the public, failing to note that most of the "dreamers" were illegals, citizens of Third World countries who had violated US borders.
Predictably, HOGAR colluded w/ co-conspirators which included:
(a) shaky mortgage companies that ran into big trouble;
(b) Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, both now under federal control after billions in taxpayer bailouts;
(c) Countrywide Financial Corp., sold to Bank of America Corp;
(d) Washington Mutual Inc., taken over by the US government and sold to J.P. Morgan Chase & Co.; and,
(e) New Century Financial Corp. and Ameriquest Mortgage Corp, both now defunct, killed by defaulted subprime Latino mortgages.
HOGAR's ties to the subprime mortgage industry were substantial. Bribery and self-dealing were rampant:
<><> Companies that donated $150,000 to Cong Baca got the right to have their own research fellow who would conduct fraudulent studies, which were cunningly used by industry lobbyists to pump lending.
<><> Bribery and extortion in the form of $100,000 annual donations to Cong Baca, for which HOGAR provided phony news releases from Cong Baca's Hispanic Caucus promoting a lender's commercial products to the Latino market,
<><> The most shocking example of bribery well-substantitated by Hogar's literature..... HOGAR announced it worked with Freddie Mac on a self-serving two-year examination of Latino homeownership in 63 congressional districts.
The "study" found Hispanic ownership on the rise thanks to "new flexible mortgage loan products" that the industry was adopting at the urging of Cong Baca's collusive coterie.
<><> HOGAR conned lenders into even more lenient down-payment and underwriting standards.
<><> As the subprime debacle unfolded, HOGAR declined repeated requests for comment despite the economic havoc their activities precipitated.
The mortgage schemes demonstrated the criminal activities of border violators with multiple identities---perhaps violent, terrorist-connected foreigners---colluding and conspiring to defraud private companies and public entities. And mortgage racketeering enterprises which employed sub rosa finance and business practices to carry out deceptions and frauds.
The alleged ring of swindlers---a Congresman, individuals with multiple identities, banks, insurance companies, mortgage nrokers--might be charged with cheating the US govt, taxpayers and bank share holders out of hundreds of millions of dollars via an elaborate web of mortgage and bank frauds.
The mortgage Dreamers used multiple phony identities, fraudulent Social Security numbers, purchased from identity forgers in order to obtain govt-subsidized benefits.
L/E will find that individuals with multiple identities obtained fraudulent mortgages then flipped the houses at ever- higher prices to family member who then absconded to foreign countries, sticking banks (and taxpayers) with hundreds of millions in fraudulent mortgages.
BACKGROUND A Wall Street Journal investigative report related that, according to the Federal Financial Institutions Examination Council examination of the borrowing spree, uncovered financial schemes by low-income housing groups, Hispanic lawmakers, a congressional Hispanic housing initiative, mortgage lenders and brokers, all colluding in fraduent schemes to increase homeownership among Latinos with forged documents which enabled massive fraud.
This was not simply the mortgage market at work. It was fueled by avarice, greed, and Congressional enabling fraudulent practices. In 2005 alone, mortgages to Hispanics jumped by 29%; Latinos with multiple fraudulent identities in low-paying jobs obtained subprime mortgages for prime properties---soaring to 169%.
(Research provided by Wall Street Journal. Some material excerpted from the NY Times).
(Cackle) that's easy to figure out.
Cruz has huge political ambitions---sees himself as the "first" latino president---so he needs to harness the (cough) "latino vote" (most of it fraudulent) to catapault him into office.
This all fits in w/ The Third World orchestrating the border invasion.
The invaders are their pressure groups organized into hyphantaed voting blocs. The Third World knows vote-crazed politicans will suckup to hyphenated voting blocs for campaign contributions and votes.
The Third World is using the Mideast Political Playbook----salivating over the "foreign aid" the federales expect to rain down on their hellholes.
blacks commit many x the crimes on whites ( many of them sexual assault,35,000 white women sexually assaulted in 2005) .
All this is hidden by the media.
blacks commit many x the crimes on whites ( many of them sexual assault,35,000 white women sexually assaulted in 2005) .
All this is hidden by the media.
Uh-oh, Cruz will be another Hispanderer just like the little McCain buddy Rubio. What is it with cowards like Jonah Goldberg, always dishing the Anglos but never missing an opportunity to send the Anglo Armed Services into combat while he sits on his fatazz.
So this guy has never been to Mexico? Talk about panhandlers!
When is the last time you saw a Hispanic panhandler?Excuse me Mr Cruz but that's a STRAW MAN.
I've never personally seen a Grizzly Bear in the wild, only in a zoo, yet I know they exist in the wild. But by your question, the answer would be it's they don't, they only exist in zoo's.
See Mr Cruz... Straw man.
Plus, in IL -- now an Official Sanctuary State -- they don't have to panhandle, they get my tax money to live on. And the Mex and PR and other 'Hispanic') gang-bangers in Chi rob and steal for theirs -- plus get my tax money. [Sweeeeet! NOT!!!]
To sickoflibs: Straw Man immediately jumped to my mind too. WTF was he thinking?
Boring white old guys isn't the problem.....liberal republicans is the problem!!!
The only thing "hispanic" about Ted Cruz is his last name. I heard him the other day on Fox News with Chris Wallace. He's another "boring white guy", but like you just said boring white guys build the country.
Marco Rubio, hispanic, who speaks fluent Spanish, is the future of the GOP. Sad to say, but it's fact.
Yoo hoo, Senor Cruz-——here's just a hint at the bills taxpayers are stuck with for the "panhandlers."
1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments. Verify: http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters7fd8
2. $22 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML
3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. Verify at:
4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary & secondary education for children here illegally and [usually] cannot speak a word of English! Verify : http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt....0.HTML
5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.(or as Terry Anderson says: JACKPOT babies!)Verify http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML
6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. Verify:http://transcripts.cnn.com/
7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.Verify:
8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & socialservices by the American taxpayers.Verify:
9. $200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. Verify:
13. In 2006, illegals sent $45 BILLION in remittances to their countries of origin. Verify: http://www/..rense.com/general75/niht.htm
The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One million sex crimes committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States. Verify: http: // www.drdsk.com/articleshtml
The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR WHICH WOULD BE ENOUGH TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY.
1. The Earned Income Credit...you know money people get back on their taxes that they NEVER paid into in the first place!llegal aliens, most of which pay zero in net taxes, enjoyed $24.2 billion from the Additional Child Tax Credit (ACTC) last year. Thats more than the annual revenue from the selected oil tax deductions and corporate jet deductions combined!Verify:
2. The cost of prosecuting and being SURE these illegal entrants have their rights protected!In 2009, the U.S. Justice Dept filed nearly 92,000 immigration-related criminal cases in the federal courts. The record-breaking trend accounted for more than half of all new federal prosecutions in the country, according to data maintained at Syracuse University.
As a white, obviously evil man, I'm offended by that title. And let's not forget that white women aren't boring because they're...women.
No, I'm not going to read the article.
So you noticed (blush).
So you noticed (blush).
"the latino begger is a straw man cruz made up just to shoot down."
Harry Reid called them worse than beggers.
Harry REID.....it all depends who he's pandering to today!
Harry Reid: illegal aliens free loaders and scam artists
Reid, now an impassioned champion of amnesty for 20 million illegal aliens in America, once called illegal aliens free loaders and scam artists which he proposed to deal with in his Immigration Stabilization Act in the United States Senate in 1993.
That proposed legislation was introduced to the floor of the US Senate with the following press release, in part, issued by Reids office on August 5, 1993.
In response to increased terrorism and abuse of social programs by aliens, (I) today introduced the first and only comprehensive immigration reform bill in Congress. Currently, an alien living illegally in the United States often pays no taxes but receives unemployment, welfare, free medical care, and other federal benefits. Recent terrorist acts, including the World Trade Center bombing, have underscored the need to keep violent criminals out of the country.
I agree if they are illegal aliens. If they are American citizens, I have no problem with it.
" "A friend of mine, a Hispanic entrepreneur, asked me a question some time ago. He said, 'When is the last time you saw a Hispanic panhandler?
I guess his "friend" has never been near a welfare office, or near an EBT checkout, or near a Home Depot. "
Cruz needs some facts, not that facts make any difference with politicians.
There is a new study out today which shows that 'immigrants' use more welfare, are poorer and less educated!
Study Finds Poverty & Welfare Common among Immigrants
Many Longtime Immigrant Residents Still Struggling
WASHINGTON, DC (August 8, 2012) A new study from the Center for Immigration Studies uses Census Bureau data from 2010 and 2011 to provide a detailed picture of the nations immigrant population (legal and illegal) by country of birth, state, and legal status. A key finding is that immigration has dramatically increased the size of the nations low-income population. In general, immigrants make significant progress the longer they live in the country. But even with this progress, immigrants who have been in the country for 20 years are still much more likely to be poor, lack health insurance, and access the welfare system than native-born Americans. The large share of immigrants with little education partly explains this phenomenon.
There is considerable concern about issues like poverty and the large uninsured population. But what has generally not been acknowledged is the impact of immigration on these problems, notes Steven Camarota, the Centers Director of Research. Absent a change in policy, 11 to 15 million new immigrants are likely to settle in this country in the next decade and may exacerbate present problems. The study can be found at: http://cis.org/2012-profile-of-americas-foreign-born-population. Press releases specific to the top immigrant receiving states can be found at http://cis.org/Announcements/2012-profile-of-americas-foreign-born-population-states.
Among the studys findings:
* Immigrants and their U.S.-born children (under 18) account for one-fourth of all persons in poverty and nearly one-third of the population lacking health insurance.
* In 2010, 36 percent of immigrant-headed households used at least one major welfare program (primarily food assistance and Medicaid) compared to 23 percent of native households.
* Of immigrant households with children 57 percent accessed one or more welfare programs, compared to 40 percent of native households with children.
* The high rates of poverty, uninsurance and welfare use are not due to an unwillingness to work. The share of working-age immigrants (18 to 65) holding a job in 2011 was the same as natives 68 percent. Immigrant men actually have higher rates of work than native-born men.
* The primary reason for high immigrant poverty and welfare use is the large share of immigrants who arrived as adults with relatively little education.
o Of adult immigrants (25 to 65), 28 percent have not completed high school, compared to 7 percent of natives.
o The share of immigrants (25 to 65) with at least a bachelors degree is somewhat lower than that of natives 29 vs. 33 percent.
* Among the top states of immigrant settlement, immigrants tend to be the poorest and least educated in Arizona, North Carolina, Minnesota, Texas, Georgia, Colorado, and California. Immigrants tend to be the most educated and prosperous in Virginia, New Jersey, Maryland and Massachusetts.
* There is a very significant variation across sending-countries and regions. Immigrants from East Asia, India and Europe tend to be the most educated and have the highest incomes, while those from Mexico and Latin American tend to be the least-educated and have the lowest incomes.
* Many immigrants make significant progress the longer they live in the country. However, as a group, immigrants who have lived in the United States for 20 years have not come close to closing the gap with natives.
o The poverty rate of adult immigrants who have lived in the United States for 20 years is 50 percent higher than that of adult natives.
o The share of adult immigrants who have lived in the United States for 20 years who lack health insurance is twice that of adult natives.
o The share of households headed by an immigrant who has lived in the United States for 20 years using one or more welfare programs is nearly twice that of native-headed households.
o The share of households headed by an immigrant who has lived in the United States for 20 years that are owner occupied is 22 percent lower than that of native households.
* Most immigrants are not recent arrivals. Nearly two-thirds have been in the United States for more than 10 years and their average length of residence in the U.S. is 19 years.
* There are 10.4 million students from immigrant households in public schools, accounting for one in five public school students.
* Overall, one in four public school students now speaks a language other than English at home.
* Of immigrant households, 53 percent are owner-occupied, compared to 68 percent of native households.
* In 2010, 13 percent of immigrant households were overcrowded, compared to 2 percent of native households. Immigrant households account for half of all overcrowded households.
* Immigrants and natives have very similar rates of entrepreneurship 11.7 percent of natives and 11.5 percent of immigrants are self-employed.
Illegal immigrants. Our best estimate is that 28 percent of the nations immigrants are in the country illegally. Illegal immigrants and their U.S.-born children (under 18) account for 5 percent of the nations overall population, 10 percent those in poverty, 15 percent of the uninsured and 7 percent of the school age population.
Data Source: The data for this paper come primarily from the public-use files of the 2010 American Community Survey (ACS) and the March 2011 Current Population Survey (CPS). In some cases, for state-specific information, we combine the March 2010 and 2011 CPS to get statistically robust results. In this report, the terms foreign-born and immigrant are used synonymously. Immigrants are persons living in the United States who were not American citizens at birth. This includes naturalized American citizens, legal permanent residents (green card holders), illegal immigrants, and people on long-term temporary visas such as foreign students or guest workers.
"This has to stop. Go back to your country you sick pukes. This is my country"
I agree with you.
But until you (and I) and other Euro-American conservatives are willing to openly take up arms en masse, round them up and force them OUT of the country, they won't be leaving — particularly when the federals do everything to -encourage- the infux.
That "expulsion" isn't going to happen.
I don't like it any more than you do.
But that's the reality of the situation.
And I don't see any changes coming regardless of who gets elected in November....
I agree if they are illegal aliens. If they are American citizens, I have no problem with it.
"You old white people. It is your duty to die."
Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets; "Go back to Boston ! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die. Through love of having children, we are going to take over.
Richard Alatorre, Los Angeles City Council. "They're afraid we're going to take over the governmental institutions and other institutions. They're right. We will take them over . . . We are here to stay."
Excelsior, the national newspaper of Mexico , "The American Southwest seems to be slowly returning to the jurisdiction of Mexico without firing a single shot."
Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas: "We have an aging white America . They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population . . . I love it. They are shitting in their pants with fear. I love it."
Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party, "Remember 187--proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non-citizens--was the last gasp of white America in California."
Gloria Molina, Los Angeles County Supervisor, "We are politicizing every single one of these new citizens that are becoming citizens of this country . . ... I gotta tell you that a lot of people are saying, "I'm going to go out there and vote because I want to pay them back."
Mario Obledo, California Coalition of Hispanic Organizations and California State Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare under Governor Jerry Brown, also awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Bill Clinton, " California is going to be a Hispanic state. Anyone who doesn't like it should leave."
Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General, "We are practicing 'La Reconquista' in California ..."
Professor Fernando Guerra, Loyola Marymount University ; "We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos . . . "
Labeling your statement that you were being sarcastic as sarcasm creates a double-binded logical infinity loop that threatens the whole sarcasm spacetime continuum.
Great idea. Let us do it!
WASHINGTONThe IRS Service may have delivered more than $5 billion in refund checks to identity thieves who filed fraudulent tax returns for 2011, Treasury Dept investigators said Thursday.
They estimate another $21 billion could make its way to ID thieves' pockets over the next five years. The IRS is detecting far fewer fraudulent tax refund claims than actually occur, according to a govt audit that warned the widespread problem could undermine public trust in the U.S. tax system.
Although the IRS detected about 940,000 fraudulent returns for last year claiming $6.5 billion in refunds, there were potentially another 1.5 million undetected cases of thieves seeking refunds after assuming the identity of a dead person, child or someone else who normally wouldn't file a tax return.
In just one example, investigators found a single address in Lansing, Mich, was used to file 2,137 separate tax returns. The IRS issued more than $3.3 million in refunds to that address.
Florida is the epicenter of the identity theft crisis (a state overrun with latinos---many of whom are Cuban---who are also involved in massive Medicare/Aid fraud). Just three addresses in Florida filed more than 500 returns totaling more than $1 million in refunds for each address.
In another troubling scenario, hundreds of refunds were deposited into the same bank account--a red flag for investigators searching for ID thieves-- who may be filing for refunds for multiple people. In one instance, the IRS deposited 590 refunds totaling more than $900,000 into one account.
SOURCE http://www.twincities.com/national/ci_21218839/irs-missing-billions-id-theft
(Excerpt) Read more at twincities.com ...
REFERENCE ICE's "documents and benefits fraud task force" found a common practice among "impoverished" illegals is to buy several faked identities for several thousand dollars each----the illegal then votes and rides the US gravy train under several names.
<><> Jose Madrigal---the Washington state rapist---had some 30 identities. And probably voted and collected US benefits under every single identity.
<><> Another illegal used multiple identites to bilk UI systems of some $3.5 million.
REFERENCE US Dept of the Treasury Says Illegal Aliens Collecting Billions in Tax Credits According to the US Dept of Treasurys Inspector General, more than $4.2 billion in additional child credits were paid out in 2010 to illegal immigrants. In 2005, the pay outs totaled $924 million. This program allows low income earners to claim a $1,000 per child credit. $20 billion EITC is estimated to have been paid out to these cunning "impoverished" illegals. Most of them are collecting over and over again-----using multiple identities-----falsifying official apps---claiming children they do not have and/or falsely stating kids are back in their homelands.
March 8, 2012 KENNER, La. Kenner police arrested illegal Marvin Baca who sold false W-2 forms to another illegal immigrant for $1,500. Baca sold fraudulent W-2 forms for $1,500 to other Hispanics here illegally.
Police said that on one of the forged W-2 forms had a SS no of a person living in Virginia. Police said illegal Hispanics purchase fictitious W-2 forms and file false tax returns with the government to receive EITC refunds. Baca was charged with one count of ID theft and two counts of forgery.
I agree. Did you see the pictures inside Nasa's mission control room after the Mars lander touched down? The place looked whiter than rice.
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I decided I just had to go fish somewhere this weekend and decided at the last minute to run up to Townsend for the weekend. Got there around 5ish on Friday and set up camp at Elkmont. I decided to fish LR for an hour or 2 Friday evening below Metcalf and did very well, catching probably 15 fish. My 3rd fish was a 13 inch brown and I thought it probably couldn't get any better. All fish on Friday were caught on an Isonychia nymph.
On Saturday, I decided to explore a bit. I had never fished over at Greenbriar before so I drove over there and started fishing up from the Ramsey Cascades trailhead. I caught 40+ fish, about 50/50 'bows and brooks. Most of the fish were caught on a bh Tellico. Later in the day, the action died on the nymph but I tied on a Stimulator and started catching them again. The fish were in feeding mode. I had several good rainbows in the 9-11 inch range that I spotted out feeding and they would charge the fly as soon as it hit the water. Some fish I even stung and missed, cast back and nailed them!
I hiked back out around 3:30 and moved back over to Little River. I spent awhile watching some good browns out feeding, one of which even rose a couple of times. I decided to try back near where I caught the 13 inch fish again and see if another would hit. I had a bh Tellico on and cast up to the top of a pool. The fly sunk quickly and suddenly my fly line just stopped. I quickly set the hook and a little while later had a nice 16 inch brown to hand. I moved down to try the lower part of the pool and caught one before moving back to the top. Same thing happened again! My fly line stopped and I set the hook hard but nothing moved. I thought it was a snag so I jerked again and this time it started moving. I worked in another good brown, this one was 17 inches long!
Those were my two largest browns to date in the park (yeah, I know they would be bait for those "real" big fish ::)). It was definately a great weekend!
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Sounds like a great weekend to me! Ain't it sweet when you and the fish are dialed in?!? Gotta love this time of year when the water temps get right and the fish get cranked up and feed hard!
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I went fishing this past Friday about a half a mile from the Ramsey Cascades Trailhead. Right at the last wooden bridge with a large parking area. Fished for about 1+ hours and was doing very good. 6 nice rainbows hitting on both a caddis and a green weenie. Came to section upstream at about 200 feet from the bridge. Decided to get out and walk the trail past some large boulders and fish from the top of them to reach some nice looking holes. That is when my fishing trip ended. Walked right over a ground hornets nest. After several stings and setting a land speed record for a man in waders, I decided to call it a day. If you are in the area, stay off the small trail going to the left of the bridge.
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Concerning the ground hornets nest: Do I look for a hole in the ground with the hornets flying around that hole area or do I look for a nest on the ground, per se?
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You will usually find yellow jackets nesting underground with hornets in their typical paper nests handing withing reach of your backcasts along the rivers. Fall is typically an actice time of year for the yellowjackets. If you dig up these nests they resemble the typical wasp nest you find hanging under your eves. It doesn't take much to disturb them and they will funnel out of their hole looking for a fight. There can be two entrances to these nests and the size of the entrance is about the size of a quarter. Unless you are looking right at them they are hard to see....I will not go into the Park this time of year without a supply of benedryl in my vest.
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Who cares about some litle bees ;), those are two NICE fish. I always tell people that a 10" fish in the park is worth bragging about. You caught a 17' fish, WOW WEEEEEEE! ;D ;D ;D
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Sounds like you had a great time on the Greenbriar and the Little River David. I am going to have to talk to my boss about taking a Friday off so I can take a long weekend trip to the Smokies before you catch all the fishes ;) I am curious, when you were nymphing on the Greenbriar were you using any extra weight to get your fly down in the plunge poools that area common on that stream. I haven't done much nymphing in the Park, mainly dry flies except for the larger stream like Little River and Abrams. Appreciate any info you might provide. Great report and keep up the great fishing.
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About the bees, I saw plenty yellow jackets around myself. This is definately a bad time of year for them and I actually worry more about them than I do snakes. Watch out for the large hornets nests over the water also. It seems I remember some stories on here of guys disturbing them while casting :o. That would not be fun at all...
Neal, I was using a LOT of weight this weekend. I was using a bead head to begin with and it may have had some extra weight tied in also, I can't remember. Additionally I used 2 #6 split shot above my fly to get it down. I tried one split shot for awhile and as soon as I added the second, I probably doubled my strikes. If you are used to nymphing without strike indicators, that is definately the way to go because the water depth is so varied. Also, don't forget the October Caddis dries in the next few weeks. I saw one Saturday night at Elkmont!!! 8-) If you want someone to fish with when you come up, let me know. I will be up there quite a bit more hopefully in the next few weeks.
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- The ACal Project is a Web-based event calendar made for everyone. It was designed to be simple to install and setup. It does not require a database server, and installing is as easy as drag and drop. It can run on almost any ISP's server that has PHP installed.
- ADM (Asterisk Desktop Manager) aims to integrate your desktop with the Asterisk PBX and hardware IP phone by providing some useful features such as automatic on-call volume reduction, one click dialling (from the clipboard), automatic messenger "away" status when on a call, and some Cisco 79xx specific features. It runs with any GNOME compatible window manager.
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- Minimalistic but massively web 2.0 enabled address book running completely in your browser. How it works: XML + XSLT = HTML address book (XML file) is tranformed (XSLT file) by web browser to HTML,
- AEIOU (An Electronic IOU) is a web application for creating local commodity currencies based on electronic IOU tickets. The software allows currency issuers to register themselves and create IOU tickets. These tickets consist of an electronic document detailing what the issuer owes to the bearer of the document (a specific quantity of goods or services), and a secret key. The ticket can then be transferred via any electronic medium to another party as payment for other goods or services. The recipient then contacts the AEIOU website, uses the secret key to verify the ticket, and receives a new secret key known only to them. This key can be used to redeem the ticket with the original issuer (and receive the promised goods/services), or to transfer the ticket again via the same mechanism.
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I delivered my son on May 3 at 31 weeks. He is currently still in NICU but may soon be released. I have been pumping all along and doing well with that.
With my first son, I successful breastfed him until he was 18 months old (he is now 3). So I am well versed in all the benefits of breastfeeding and I am a big advocate.
But with my youngest son being in NICU, I just have a lot of doubts and concerns about how successful we can be breastfeeding this time.
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text: Aside from a blackout in the third quarter and an impressive come-from-behind by the 49ers in the second half, one of the more memorable moments of this year's Super Bowl was Beyoncé's halftime show performance. Apparently Beyoncé's pants were confiscated by Superdome security and she chose to simply perform without them. This got me thinking about our culture and the challenge of communicating the virtue of modesty in the 21st century.


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Schmoopy1000 wrote:HiddenHollow wrote:TishR wrote:Do I really think Tony and Kurt will get into it? Yes. It may not be in public but it will happen. If you listen to Kurt's radio chatter you will realize he has improved some but as of the last few races he has started to revert back to his old ways. He can put on a good public persona when he has to. It is contract time.
As to Gene wanting his companies name in victory lane, I think he is referring to Haas Automation because I don't think any of the races he actually sponsored made it there. As to being highly qualified I guess it means boat loads of money.
That is EXACTLY what he is referring to!
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The competition featured 42 craft breweries that entered 396 beers in 134 style categories.
Nantahala Brewing of Bryson City led the local winners with 13 medals and a third place "Best of Show" finish for their 4-Foot Drop, an American-style pale ale. All of the brews tasted were judged in accordance with the Great American Beer Festival guidelines.
"We've competed well in the past, but this year was by far our best showing," said Joe Rowland, co-owner of Nantahala. "To know that the 4-Foot Drop was judged higher than 393 other beers in the competition is something to be proud of."
In its inaugural festival entry, BearWaters Brewing of Waynesville pulled in 10 medals, which placed the young brewery among the top competing establishments.
"Since our blind-judged competition inception eight years ago, I cannot recall a new brewery having such great success in the Carolinas Championship of Beer," said CCB organizer Bobby Bush. "One medal is great. Ten is phenomenal and a sure sign that something wonderful is happening at BearWaters."
Tipping Point Brewing and Frog Level both hailing from Waynesville also both won a bronze.
"We can now rightfully claim our spot on the stage with Asheville and the rest of North Carolina," said Jon Bowman, co-owner of the Tipping Point.
Rave reviews are something Bowman and the other brewers are used to among their local fan base. But winning the endorsement from objective tasters — not just the buddy on the other side of the bar from them — was of a different order.
"It was incredible to be outside of Haywood County and experience the positive reaction as people sampled our beers and returned to the booths multiple times," Bowman said.
All of the breweries, including Heinzelmannchen Brewery of Sylva won a bronze for their regional collaboration beer, the "Ryeway 74."
"It's exciting to know that our brews are being recognized as some of the best in North Carolina, but it's equally exciting to continue to help put us on the map," said Jenn Huston of Nantahala. "The more people who travel to our breweries help both us and our communities grow."
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4-Foot Drop (gold – 3rd "Best of Show"), Little Tennessee Logger (gold), Dirty Girl Blonde Ale (gold), Trail Magic 1 (gold), Up River Amber (silver), Noon Day IPA (silver), Chocolate Covered Cherry Stout (bronze), Dirty Girl Blonde Ale (bronze), Bryson City Brown (bronze), Devil's Courthouse (bronze), Patton's Run Porter (bronze), Trail Mix 1 (bronze), Little Tennessee Logger (bronze), and Nantahala Pale Ale (bronze).
Sliding Rock Ale (gold), Riverdog ESB (silver), Stiff Paddle IPA (silver), SnowNado (silver), Paint Rock Porter (bronze), Skipping Stone Stout (bronze), Brown Mountain Dark Ale (bronze), Pumpkin P.F.D. (bronze), Shining Creek Ale (bronze), and Ripcurrent Red (bronze).
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Rated 4 out of 5 by supernurse79 excellent I absolutely love Columbia jackets.. I brought everyone a jacket for Christmas!!! December 14, 2015
Rated 5 out of 5 by Sub18 Great Fleece! This is my third jacket from Columbia. I wanted a nice fleece and I definitely got it with this! December 13, 2015
Rated 5 out of 5 by Numero1 Very good jacket Used it recently in Las Vegas and it kept me warm on a windy 45 degrees cold day. The zipper pockets are very useful and secure. I initially ordered S but changed it to XS as I wanted it a little bit tighter and it fit just perfect making me look very curvy and stylish. The pomegranate color is beautiful!! Liked this jacket so much that ordered another one in black. I'm 5'2" and 125 lbs November 28, 2015
Rated 5 out of 5 by SportsAuthorityGirl Butter Soft, Dense, Ultra-fine This thing is top quality. Soft micro-fleece type of finish. I can tell this thing will stay nice after washing. It is thick and dense. I believe it does a decent job of not letting too much light wind in because it is a more dense construction and tighter weave/knit/whatever. Super-fine. My mom wants one. So now I have to buy her one. November 16, 2015
Rated 4 out of 5 by ar114020 Perfect fleece This runs big, but for the price I'm going to keep it because it doesn't run TOO big. It's super soft, super warm, and will be perfect for my needs! The sleeves are nice and long. November 3, 2015
Rated 5 out of 5 by MAndrews0308 Great fleece Very soft and comfortable. Keeps you warm on a chilly autumn day. Need a couple more in different colors. October 26, 2015
Rated 5 out of 5 by nickster great fit, feel and quality I wear Columbia shirts every single day of the year. I have 43 of them. In the winter I only wear a Columbia fleece jacket over them. nuff said. great products. great service. August 8, 2015
Rated 5 out of 5 by Tati Perfect fit! I bought this sweater for camping, my two friends and I go camping in Northern California once a month and we call our gang "the mountain mamas". We wanted to have jackets made so we decided to buy some fleece sweaters and add patches of all the parks we go to. I am a 5'7 female, I am 136 lbs, bra size 34 B, size 5-6 pants, and the size small fit me perfect. Very flattering on my body and I can't wait to break it in camping. June 11, 2015
Rated 3 out of 5 by Slpats Loved it for 19 months Maybe 19 mo is considered a good run these days, but I was disappointed by the zipper breaking down in less that 2 years. Otherwise, loved the fleece. Needed the large for 5'6''145lb athletic build. May 22, 2015
Rated 5 out of 5 by variza Excellent! Have bought this for outdoors professional purposes, I wear it intensively and goes into washing machine and back on. Love it! May 13, 2015
Rated 5 out of 5 by SusanMary Fitted and fabulous This is the third color I've purchased of this fleece zip up. The high neck keeps out drafts, the long length keeps kidneys & lower back warm, and the fitted style keeps my torso warm. And, ladies, the fit is very flattering! The cut suits a slim frame rather than a fuller frame in terms of the waist, but curvy should be no problem. I may get a fourth! I live in them at home. March 5, 2015
Rated 5 out of 5 by IowaHawkeye Great jacket Had this in black. Also have have other brands of this type of jacket and my favorite is my Columbia. Like the fabric, the warmth it provides, still looks like new after many washings and I wear it year around here in Iowa with our ever changing weather. So I had to order a second and plan to buy more! March 1, 2015
Rated 4 out of 5 by Ktbro Love it! With all the varieties of fleece available I wasn't sure what I would receive. This jacket is a nice weight for cold but sunny Colorado weather. February 20, 2015
Rated 5 out of 5 by Vania23 More colors? I LOVE this fleece and have it in black and purple lotus. Any chance you could make it in chocolate or dark brown? I'm sorry, but the other colors are horrid, but if you had a navy or brown, I would definitely buy it. They are GREAT fleeces. February 13, 2015
Rated 3 out of 5 by Woolsey disappointed I had owned amazing Columbia products in the past but the quality has declined. I bought a larger size as the product description said runs small. It does not. I ended up with a too big jacket. Its not as well made or warm as previous garments. The bottom is tailored not adjustable so it just sticks out in an ill fitting manner. This is clearly something you need to try on in a store. Color was accurate and its better than most other brands but not as good as it once was. January 26, 2015
Rated 5 out of 5 by MelCad Perfect everyday jacket and so comfy! This jacket is perfect for everyday day use! I live in Houston and we've actually have had some very cold weather, the fleece keeps in the warmth and isn't to stuffy. I'm the average size women 5'5 and a size10- 12. I ordered a large and fits perfect! The zipper on the sleeve is great for an ID, CC, and some cash! I will be repurchasing other colors, truly impressed and well made! January 18, 2015
Rated 5 out of 5 by Collin Great Product It was a great sweater. My girlfriend loved it. Fast shipping. January 4, 2015
Rated 5 out of 5 by MaggieGa Great value - nice look I purchased this and am very happy with the look and feel. I have received compliments on this and it looks much more expensive than it was. The cut is good and its not bulky either. December 19, 2014
Rated 5 out of 5 by GreenLakeDD Time for more sophisticated colors! I love this jacket and own three of them, frequently bought on sale. The zippers are terrific and you can usually do without a purse and rely on safe and secure zippered pockets. The only complaint I have is that many of the colors are ugly. December 16, 2014
Rated 5 out of 5 by Mogety nice lite jacket wonderful jacket when you dont want anything to bulky. love this product December 15, 2014
Rated 4 out of 5 by Debbes Nice fleece This is a flattering fleece, I like how it is tailored. The only thin I wish it had was a cinch cord at the bottom to keep cool air out. Other than that the material is comfortable. I'm 5'1, 110 lbs and got an XS, I was happy with the fit. October 28, 2014
Rated 2 out of 5 by lindsjl Not True to Color I love everything about this jacket but the color. I ordered Red Hibiscus, which appears a light, pretty color. The actual jacket is WAY more red (like a true red). Not sure if I want to exchange for a different color or just return. October 10, 2014
Rated 5 out of 5 by MellyMel Fitted black fleece I purchased the black in a size small. I wish I would have gotten the X-small. Great quality and comfort. Definitely recommend. September 18, 2014
Rated 5 out of 5 by Ladyo Love it Love my fall jacket. I do sometimes wish it had a hood but i knew that when i purchased it. It would be nice if it was an option though. When i put it on im instantly warm. Not a jacket i would use for spring chills as it is to warm, but it's perfect for fall and maybe even winter if you have a hat and dont plan on being out to long. Oh i also put it was true to size and for the most part it is. I typically where an xl and purchased a L. I notmally wear Xl for more room in the chet area but that wasnt needed on this jacket. September 18, 2014
Rated 5 out of 5 by HKPPDX Blue is great. Pink is not pink. I love this fleece. It is comfortable and the sleeves are long enough for my arms. I love the light blue one. I purchased what I thought was pink, but it turned out to be orange. When you see it on other sites it is orange but here it is pink. Sad, because I really wanted pink. So, I took it back. In general, though, this is a quality fleece. September 11, 2014
Rated 4 out of 5 by emitch13 Love it and wear it all the time! Love this jacket! I have had it for about a year now and I wear it all the time! I wear it for work a lot, but also when I need a light jacket that looks good. I get so many compliments on it! September 6, 2014
Rated 5 out of 5 by Peggy2 Great! I bought 2 and especially love the Groovy Pink! More form fit that previous fleeces I have bought from Columbia. March 31, 2014
Rated 5 out of 5 by Momrocks All around great jacket I wanted a fleece jacket with a little more style than the basic no-shape fleece. This jacket fit the bill perfectly. I found it to be true to size, not smaller than what other reviews stated. It can be dressed up with a pretty scarf or worn with sweats for walking or hiking! Great all purpose jacket! March 22, 2014
Rated 4 out of 5 by Columbialover614 Love except.. I love my columbia jackets. I wish they wouldnt get covered in lint so easily though. Its a pain to keep the lint and hair off. Other then that it is a great product!! March 20, 2014
Rated 5 out of 5 by KaLW Wonderful jacket! I always wanted a Columbia jacket and this website had the best priced ones and the size medium was perfect for me! Came in about a week and I love it! March 12, 2014
Rated 5 out of 5 by HeidiKeren Flattering design. Very warm. Very comfortable. This is a great fitted design that is very flattering. It's still roomy enough to be very comfortable. Love this design! For sizing reference, i'm 5'3" and 115 pounds and purchased a size small. March 10, 2014
Rated 5 out of 5 by katya74 Love my new jacket! I got my this jacket as a birthday gift from my husband. I love so much. It keeps me warm. February 28, 2014
Rated 5 out of 5 by Nomad14 Sea Salt - very functional item Received compliments on this fleece.It runs small since it's tailored as another reviewer noted,I like this.For me,with an athletic build,I wanted a medium versus the tighter fitting size small to allow for movement;sleeves are a little long. Having a pocket in the arm of a technical fleece layer's great for things like lip balm,key,MP3 player.As the seasons change,I've worn a ultra light down vest over it,still comfortable. Washes great,and I hang dry it. February 22, 2014
Rated 5 out of 5 by NancyOB Columbia Women's Trek ll zip up fleece This fleece is the perfect weight not too heavy...not too light. It has a very flattering fit, but not tight. I have 4 of these in different colors...love this style!!! I weight 125 and 5 1/2' tall and the size small is perfect. I wash it on the cold cycle and just hang to dry. Fits as if its brand new!!! February 10, 2014
Rated 2 out of 5 by Hopeful2014 Disappointed I've been a big fan of Columbia in the past and have bought many products but the quality just isn't the same anymore. The fleece is thinner than before, the zippers are much cheaper and of poor construction, the collar is proportionately too big, and the sizing is definitely off (although I think they run big rather than small). I've bought other sweatshirts for less of better quality. I hope that Columbia improves its quality again because I have liked this brand so much in the past. Their order processing, customer service and web site are great and these things have made me come back and try again but I'll only come back so many more times if the product quality stays poor. February 10, 2014
Rated 3 out of 5 by Emerald Not quite right I bought this and a Benton fleece --- kept the Benton and returned the Fast Trek II --- even though it is more stylish. The Fast Trek II size S was a bit tight in the shoulders and the zipper was finicky. The Benson size S fit perfectly. February 7, 2014
Rated 5 out of 5 by jla326 Air Stream This was my second Columbia Fast Trek fleece, so I knew I would love the fit. My original fleece was black, but I wanted a bit of color so I purchased it in Air Stream. It appeared to be a light blue color in the picture, but when I received it in the mail I was a little bit shocked! Wow, was it bright! I would call it more of an electric baby blue. Or even more aquamarine. Despite my initial shock, I am keeping it to combat the depressing winter colors around me. Not sure if you can tell in the picture, but the "Columbia" lettering is white on the actual jacket, so it definitely pops. I did not find it to run small like other reviewers. Just keep in mind that it's more form fitting than most of the bulky, shapeless fleece jackets out there. True to size for me, got a S. I'm 5'9" and typically wear a size 4 or 6. February 3, 2014
Rated 5 out of 5 by Mary12 soft and warm I got the red hibiscus and love it. The minute I put it on I knew it would be a favorite. I love it so much I got another one in a different color. It is soft and warm and you can wear it almost anywhere. January 31, 2014
Rated 5 out of 5 by RachelNOLA Perfect, I love it I think I have worn it every day since I got it. I wish the shipping had been a tiny bit faster but that is literally my only complaint. It fits nicely, not too tight and not too loose. For reference, I'm 5'2", 117lbs, 32D and I ordered an XS. January 28, 2014
Rated 5 out of 5 by Goatfish Beautiful quality and color I bought the color "Air Stream" and find it to be much brighter than in the little color box on this site. It is a color that would look well w a variety of skin and hair colors. Bc this was my first Colombia purchase, I decided to err on the side of a little too big than a little too small. I bought the large. It is very roomy and the sleeves cover past my wrists. The fit is "cozy" more than "stylish". It is a little bulky on me although I prefer this to an item being too snug. The fabric is very durable and plush. This was a delightful surprise compared to the continuously decreasing quality in fabric that characterizes many clothing items these past few years. I would buy this item again and even buy the size large again. January 27, 2014
Rated 4 out of 5 by BioGirl Great all-around fleece I purchased this fleece a couple of weeks ago and have worn it nearly every day since. It's warm for outside, but lightweight enough to keep on inside, so it functions almost like a warm cardigan. I want more in additional colors! January 24, 2014
Rated 5 out of 5 by Bellasarah Best Fitting Softest Fleece Jacket Love this jacket I wear it almost every day instead of a sweater around the house but I also wear it out. It is a fitted jacket in the softest fleece and looks great on instead of the boxy fleece that everyone else sells. I love the fact that it does not have a hood adding bulk to the back. I have the light turquise, powder blue, sea salt and emerald green. Just love it. Purchased it intially at the Columbia Outlet and the rest online. January 23, 2014
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Larry F. Vukov, M.D., was awarded the 2011 Mayo Clinic Alumni Association Humanitarian Award for his work leading mission trips in underserved nations as well as his contributions to community-based mission service for patients at Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN. The award acknowledges significant contributions by graduates of Mayo's education programs to the welfare of a community, country or humanity, beyond any volunteer service to Mayo. During his 21 years of mission service, seven Hope centers were developed with schools to educate and feed more than 2,000 children. Also established were clinics that provide healthcare to thousands of people. He also has led or participated in short-term mission trips to Honduras, Costa Rica, Tanzania and Guinea, West Africa, and has served as a board member of a mission organization called Special Ministries for the past seven years. Professionally, he was appointed to the Mayo Clinic staff in emergency medicine in 1980 and served as the first practice chair for 10 years. He's also served as its research chair, education chair, quality improvement chair and on numerous institutional committees. He conducted sentinel research in pre-hospital defibrillation for cardiac arrest victims and achieved certification in internal medicine, emergency medicine and geriatric medicine during his tenure at Mayo. He is an associate professor of emergency medicine with a special interest in geriatric emergency care and is a consultant in the department of emergency medicine. His wife, Gail, of 31 years travels with him on mission trips and they have served as board members and as the chair couple for Young Life in Rochester. For the past 13 years they also have owned and operated a guest house that offers complimentary lodging for missionaries on furlough and a wide variety of Mayo Clinic patients. They have two sons who have mission experience as well.
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Buoyant vessel to lever to stationary, Wave energy collector, utility, power source.
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Buoyant vessel attached to a lever, the lever being attached to a stationary source or a vessel less affected by swells and waves, creates a torque at the pivot point by the vessel being raised and lowered, this works on all size levers, making it possible to collect energy from all size Waves, with enough levers with in reasonable size and numbers, the torque can be used hydraulically or mechanically to power generators.
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Apple Streusel Cobbler
- Prep Time: 15 min
- Cook Time: 50 min
- Ready Time: 85 min
- Yield: 12 servings
- 2 (21 oz.) cans apple pie filling
- 2 large eggs
- 1 (14 oz.) can Eagle Brand® Sweetened Condensed Milk
- 1/4 cup butter, melted
- 1/2 teaspoon ground cinnamon
- 1/4 teaspoon ground nutmeg
- 1/2 cup firmly packed brown sugar
- 1/2 cup Pillsbury BEST™ All Purpose Flour
- 1/4 cup cold butter
- 1/2 cup chopped nuts
- 1/2 cup oats
Preparation Directions
- HEAT oven to 375°F. Spread apple filling in buttered 9-inch square baking pan.
- BEAT eggs, sweetened condensed milk, melted butter and spices in large bowl; pour over apple filling. Combine brown sugar and flour in small bowl; cut in cold butter with pastry blender or 2 knives until mixture resembles coarse crumbs. Add nuts and oats. Sprinkle over top.
- BAKE 50 minutes or until set. Cool. Serve warm with vanilla ice cream, if desired.
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Serving Size (1 slice, 1/12 of cake), Calories 340 (Calories from Fat 130), Total Fat 15g (Saturated Fat 7g, Trans Fat 0g), Cholesterol 60mg, Sodium 140mg, Total Carbohydrate 48g (Dietary Fiber 1g, Sugars 36g), Protein 5g; Percent Daily Value*: Vitamin A 8%, Vitamin C 2%, Calcium 10%, Iron 6%.
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Posted on July 19, 2013
A group of Grand Valley student researchers traveled seven miles off the coast of Lake Michigan July 18 to visit the Offshore Wind Assessment research buoy.
The students are helping to analyze data collected from the buoy to determine the amount of power that could be created if wind turbines were installed in Lake Michigan. The study is led by Grand Valley's Michigan Alternative and Renewable Energy Center.
"It was a great opportunity for the students to inspect the operating systems they are getting data from, and to experience real field work that scientists and their support teams engage in," said Arn Boezaart, director of MAREC.
Boezaart said students collected the computer cards that have been capturing data points since the buoy deployed off the coast of the Muskegon Channel in April.
This season is the third and final research season of the Offshore Wind Assessment.
The students are Tyson Spoelma, an undergraduate student majoring in statistics; Aaron Clark, a graduate student majoring in biostatistics; and Divya Vemula, a graduate student majoring in computer information systems.
About the Offshore Wind Assessment project
The primary objective of the Lake Michigan Offshore Wind Assessment project is to gain a better understanding of offshore wind characteristics and dynamics, as well as potential wind energy. Other related physical, biological and environmental characteristics related to Great Lakes wind have been evaluated, including water quality characteristics, the water and air boundary layer, and bird and bat activity. Data collected will be used by NOAA's National Weather Service in preparation of its marine forecasts.
About the WindSentinel research buoy
The research buoy, one of two such research platforms in the world, is a six-ton, 20-by-10 foot boat-shaped structure that can measure wind characteristics up to 175 meters above the water using advanced laser pulse and Doppler wind sensing technology in remote locations. It was constructed by AXYS Technologies of British Columbia, and is equipped with a Vindicator laser wind sensor manufactured by Catch the Wind Inc. of Virginia.


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The following product safety recall was conducted voluntarily by the firm in cooperation with the CPSC. Consumers should stop using recalled products immediately unless otherwise instructed. It is illegal to resell or attempt to resell a recalled consumer product.
Name of Product: Cheftech Signature Series Grill Model#CT001
Units: 180
Importer: Advanced Catalyst Systems, LLC.
Manufacturer: CSPS Metal Co. of Taiwan.
Hazard: Advanced Catalyst Systems independently discovered that sustained strong winds blowing into the back scoop of the hood can force hot exhaust through the control panel and could cause it to overheat. If the front panel overheats, it can compromise the integrity of the gas valve assembly, which could cause a fire.
Incidents/Injuries: None.
Description: The grills included in the safety retrofit are Cheftech Signature Series Grill Model#CT001 starting with Serial # 001 and ending with #030. Serial numbers are denoted on the Rating Plate pictured below. Identifying marks include the Rating Plate label on the back. These are 30,000 BTU LP or NG stainless steel grills. The grill has a rotisserie spit and motor. Other model Cheftech gas grills are not included in the recall.
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Dear Members,
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Does he now have the ability to Absorb and projects objects the same way Tobi does with his MS?
right kishi is getting on my nervs
he has the ranged version of obitos kamui it does the same thing but from a distance
He could always absorb he doesn't even have to touch just look at the object, but yes now sadly he can warp objects out.
Fanboys will start saying Kakashi > Edo madara and SO6P. The time is near
Ofc, yeah
he is the copy ninja duh!
The crazier part is he can kamui an entire tailed beast
Did you guys missed the part where Kurama upgraded his chakra, allowing him to fully use the Kamui's power?
Originally Posted by Lunir
The crazier part is he can kamui an entire tailed beast
no he didnt we all no bee can transform from a tentical he made a tentical he kamuied that he kamuied out a hole tailed beast theres a big difference
Originally Posted by Huang
Did you guys missed the part where Kurama upgraded his chakra, allowing him to fully use the Kamui's power?
He didn't upgrade it, he just restored it!
Originally Posted by TheObserver
He didn't upgrade it, he just restored it!
Kyuubi said when Kakashi returned, after explaining Naruto what he did; He can come here whenever with Kamui.
Unless its a translation-error, it implies he can fully use his Kamui, unlike before when he would run out of chakra in a heartbeat.
I'm pretty sure kakashi always had kamui remember he Got deidaras right arm and also he was goin to use it against tobi before he got revealed but tobi said dnt bother such jutsu won't work that's b]ecause at t..he time we didn't know. Who he was (obito) thats why it wouldnt work kakashi then (speaking of currrnt fight)analyze and confirmed that :only one person could stop his kamui (kakashi try take out jibuu with. Kamui but fail cuz tobi stop it then tobi got reveald. Now then kakashi found out where kamui sends whatever it pull into what dimension cuz obito send him there so he just use kamui on himself safely so now he can use his s/t and kinda teleport things Where he wants safely. ...Now what I find amuzin is if kakashi use kamui on deidaras arm sends it to the same dimension as obitio who at the time was deidaras akatski partner would tobi be like hehehe I got ur arm lol
Current Kakashi with Kyuubi reserves is a beast, no competition.
Originally Posted by Sea Of Thy Soul
Current Kakashi with Kyuubi reserves is a beast, no competition.
Kakashi's awesomeness level up to 1000x :D
dont be ... take a deep breath
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