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|"When The Bough Breaks"
|TNG, Episode 1x17
Production number: 40271-118
First aired: 15 February 1988
|17th of 176 produced in TNG
|16th of 176 released in TNG
|121st of 728 released in all
| Written By
Hannah Louise Shearer
Directed By
Kim Manners
|41509.1 (2364)
Wesley Crusher must protect a group of kidnapped Enterprise children while Captain Picard fights for their release.
While investigating the Epsilon Mynos system, the crew of the USS Enterprise-D are witness to the revealing of the legendary planet Aldea. Radue, leader of the Aldeans, contacts the ship and asks to meet with them. Suddenly, Radue and Rashella appear on the bridge, startling everyone, notably Dr. Crusher, as they did not undergo decontamination procedures, but they quickly explain that the Enterprise's transporters won't work because of the planet's shields. They also show visible signs of discomfort, which they justify by not being used to bright lights and soon afterwards they beam back on the planet.
Commander Riker, Deanna Troi, and Dr. Crusher are transported to the surface of Aldea, and they're quickly welcomed into their small community. However, the Aldean's motives are quickly revealed, as Radue explains that he wishes to acquire some of the Enterprise's children, in exchange for technology. This outrages both Riker and Crusher, and Troi explains that Human children are prized above all else in their society; other species might be able to contribute. Then Radue explains that the Aldean society is dying out, and they've become infertile. Riker expresses his sympathy, but declines their trade offer and they are all returned to the ship. Meanwhile, strange beams of light come from the planet, scanning everyone on board but focused on the children, human children.
Suddenly, disappearances of some of the children are reported, including Wesley Crusher. The Captain is infuriated, and contacts Radue, demanding to have their children back. Radue appears on the viewscreen and informs Picard that the children will be well looked after, and that they'll want for nothing. Picard and Doctor Crusher are transported to the planet to negotiate for "compensation" for the children.
On Aldea, Wesley and the children get to meet their foster parents, and are quickly enticed by the skill-enhancing instruments that are offered to them. Wesley, however, is not impressed by the Aldeans and wants to know more about the computer system known as the Custodian, which takes care of the Aldeans. With Duana, Wesley interacts with the Custodian and learns the controls. He also asks whats behind one of the doors, and Duana responds that she doesn't know.
Doctor Crusher demands to see Wesley, and while with him, she coordinates a covert scan of Duana. Still not satisfied with the agreement, negotiations break down and the away team are sent back to the ship.
Picard insists the children be returned, Radue is adamant that the children will remain on Aldea, and he displays the planet's power by blasting the ship three days away from the planet (at warp 9.) Radue contacts them again, and claims that he could very easily push the Enterprise so far away that by the time they returned their children would be grandparents.
During the return trip, Dr. Crusher analyzes the covert scan and discovers that Duana is suffering from acute radiation poisoning, which is the reason why their society has become infertile.
Meanwhile, Wesley convinces the other children to go on hunger strike, in an attempt to make the Aldeans return them to the ship.
Upon the Enterprise's return, Radue, angered by the children's actions, contacts Picard again, and demands that he makes the children co-operate. While they are being beamed down, Riker and Data make it through the shield and begin disabling the Custodian. Doctor Crusher tries to convince Radue that the cause of their infertility is the planetary shield and cloaking device affecting their ozone layer. Eventually, even the children will become affected.
Radue insists that their scientists would've known but she retorts that they have been so reliant on their technology, they have lost track; if they discontinue use of the shield and cloak, the radiation effects should be reversible. Just then, Picard arrives with the children, saying they are going home. Radue attempts to beam him away but his commands to the Custodian are not responding; Riker and Data have disabled it. Picard has Enterprise to beam up the children. When they are gone, Radue curses that Picard has destroyed them. The captain says they are doing the exact opposite.
The Aldeans, lead by the Starfleet personnel, go to the mysterious door, and find what Data identifies as a huge power source, which has been powering their community, but which has also been slowly killing them. Radue muses that they all need to relearn how to look after themselves. The Enterprise leaves Aldea, with all the children safely back on board. Alexandra, one of the children, comes to the bridge to thank and hug Picard. When she leaves, everyone on the bridge giggles behind the captain's back as Alexandra's plush toy was stuck to his back.
Log EntriesEdit
- Captain's log, USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-D), 2364
- Chief medical officer's log, USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-D)
Memorable QuotesEdit
"Data, find a way to defeat that shield."
"That may be impossible, sir."
"Things are only impossible until they're not."
"Yes, sir."
- - Picard and Data
"It's Aldea, Captain. It has to be."
- - Riker, to Picard after the fabled planet suddenly appears in front of the Enterprise
"We need some of your children."
- - Radue
"Our children are not for sale at any price."
- - Beverly Crusher, to Radue
"What's your hurry, Harry?"
- - William Riker, to Harry Bernard after he runs into him
"Captain, we will continue these discussions when you have calmed down."
- - Radue, to Picard after kidnapping children from the Enterprise-D
"The Aldeans are suffering from a form of radiation poisoning."
"Is that what made them sterile?"
- - Crusher and Picard
"OK, kids. Let's go home."
- - Wesley Crusher
"The legend will die but the people will live."
- - Picard
"Captain, I am not aware of regulation 6.57."
"No Data, neither am I."
"I see sir. (Pause, understands) Oh, I see sir!'"
- - Data and Picard
Background information Edit
Production history Edit
- Second revised final draft script: 11 December 1987
- Filmed: 15 December 1987 – 23 December 1987
- Premiere airdate: 15 February 1988
- UK premiere airdate: 23rd January 1991
Production Edit
- "Aldea" is Spanish for "village."
- "Aldea" was not the originally scripted name for the planet. In the teaser, when Riker is telling everyone about Aldea, you can see Jonathan Frakes mouthing some other word (and you can clearly hear that all his lines containing "Aldea" were subsequently looped).
- This is the only Star Trek episode directed by Kim Manners.
Cast and characters Edit
- This marks Jerry Hardin's first appearance on Star Trek. He later reappeared as Samuel Clemens in TNG: "Time's Arrow", and Dr. Neria in VOY: "Emanations".
- Wil Wheaton's brother and sister both appear in this episode, although they are uncredited as well as Michael Westmore's daughter, McKenzie Westmore.
Continuity Edit
- The title of this episode takes its name from the children's lullaby "Rock-a-bye Baby" ("...when the bough breaks, the cradle will fall..."). The Doctor would later adapt the lullaby for B'Elanna Torres's baby and sing it to Seven of Nine in VOY: "Human Error".
- The Enterprise-D being blasted away from Aldea is similar to the original Enterprise being hurled 990.7 light years away from the Kalandin outpost (minus the earthquake effect) in TOS: "That Which Survives".
Special and visual effects Edit
- The visual effect of the Enterprise-D being blasted far away from Aldea is reused in "Q Who" and "Tin Man".
Sets, props, and costumes Edit
- The large dome window in the Aldean's meeting room was later put on top of a building in Paradise City on Nimbus III in Star Trek V: The Final Frontier.
- The Aldean's planetary shield and cloaking device was not a full scale set piece but rather a three foot long maquette, as was revealed in the Reading Rainbow's episode "The Bionic Bunny Show". Effects Supervisor Robert Legato explained that it was kit-bashed out of parts from model-kits of aircraft carriers, tanks and cars. Michael Okuda elaborated in 2012, "I built the Aldean reactor core. Rob Legato and Gary Hutzel came to me and asked me to work with them on that shot. They needed something cool and powerful looking, but had no money in the budget to build anything. I had an idea for an internally-lit structure that would be seen mostly in silhouette. The advantage of this would be that the model could be fairly simple, but would look dramatic because of lighting. I used parts from several children's toys and model kits, including a Space Shuttle launch tower. I think I even used some left-over pieces from the Star Trek: TMP space dock model in the base. Rick Sternbach helped out with some of the scaffolding around the core. The core of the model was a clear acrylic tube with a florescent tube in it. Wrapped around the tube was a sheet of high-contrast black and white film with a pattern that I designed for this. The design incorporated lots of vertical lines and a series of hexagons, which was one of the signature graphic elements that I had used for this planet. Later, I used the same art for the back wall of the Klingon transporter room and the back wall of a Starfleet interrogation room. Rob and Gary loved the model and made it look like this huge, mysterious, powerful reactor." [1]
Music Edit
- The melody that Katie plays for Melian is the same piece of music used as "The Traveler's theme" in TNG: "Where No One Has Gone Before", scored by Ron Jones.
- The episode's score, composed and conducted by Ron Jones, was recorded on 5 February 1988 at Paramount Stage M. (Star Trek: The Next Generation - The Ron Jones Project liner notes [2]) The complete episode score, totalling 27 minutes 30 seconds, appears on Disc Three of the Star Trek: The Next Generation - The Ron Jones Project collection.
Reception Edit
- A mission report for this episode by John Sayers was published in The Official Star Trek: The Next Generation Magazine Vol. 6, pp. 48-50.
Video and DVD releases Edit
- Original UK VHS release (two-episode tapes, CIC Video): Volume 9, catalogue number VHR 2438, 4 February 1991.
- UK re-release (three-episode tapes, Paramount Home Entertainment): Volume 1.6, catalogue number VHR 4647, 10 August 1998.
- As part of the TNG Season 1 DVD collection.
- As part of the TNG Season 1 Blu-ray collection.
Links and references Edit
Starring Edit
Also starring Edit
- LeVar Burton as Lt. Geordi La Forge
- Denise Crosby as Lt. Tasha Yar
- Michael Dorn as Lt. Worf
- Gates McFadden as Doctor Beverly Crusher
- Marina Sirtis as Counselor Deanna Troi
- Brent Spiner as Lt. Commander Data
- Wil Wheaton as Wesley Crusher
Guest stars Edit
- Jerry Hardin as Radue
- Brenda Strong as Rashella
- Jandi Swanson as Katie
- Paul Lambert as Melian
- Ivy Bethune as Duana
Co-stars Edit
- Dierk Torsek as Dr. Bernard
- Michèle Marsh as Leda
- Dan Mason as Accolan
- Philip N. Waller as Harry
- Connie Danese as Toya
- Jessica and Vanessa Bova as Alexandra
Uncredited co-stars Edit
- James G. Becker as Youngblood
- Dexter Clay as operations division officer
- Jeffrey Deacon as command division officer
- Susan Duchow as operations division officer
- Tim McCormack as Bennett
- James McElroy as operations division officer
- Lorine Mendell as Diana Giddings
- Guy Vardaman as Darien Wallace
- McKenzie Westmore as Rose
- Amy Wheaton as Tara
- Jeremy Wheaton as Mason
- Unknown performers as
Stand-ins Edit
- James G. Becker - stand-in for Jonathan Frakes
- Darrell Burris - stand-in for LeVar Burton
- Dexter Clay - stand-in for Michael Dorn
- Jeffrey Deacon - stand-in for Patrick Stewart
- Susan Duchow - stand-in for Denise Crosby
- Nora Leonhardt - stand-in for Marina Sirtis
- Tim McCormack - stand-in for Brent Spiner
- Lorine Mendell - stand-in for Gates McFadden
- Guy Vardaman - stand-in for Wil Wheaton
References Edit
14th century; 21st century; Aldea; Aldean; Aran; Atlantis; calcium; calculus; cancer; carbon monoxide; chromosome; cloaking device; Custodian; dolphin; Earth; Epsilon Mynos system; First Appointee; fish; flurocarbon; gamma ray; gravity; industrial waste byproducts; medical doctor; magnetic field; medical tricorder; Milky Way Galaxy; msg; musician; Neinman; neutrino; nitrogen; nuclear radiation; oceanography; oxygen; ozone layer; passive resistance; personal hygiene; planetary defense system; potassium; Progenitor; quark; radiation poisoning; red dye number two; repulsor beam; Romulans; sculptor; sculpture; shields; solar field; Starfleet Regulations; three-dimensional chess; trace elements; ultraviolet radiation; unit; visible light; vitamin; waste management; water; Xerxes VII; Zadar IV; Zena
External links Edit
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The Phillies are cleaning house.
The will not renew the contracts of coaches Sam Perlozzo, Pete Mackanin, and Greg Gross for 2013. That could pave the way for Ryne Sandberg to be promoted to the big league club in an undetermined role. Juan Samel and Rich Dubee are staying with the Phillies, as of now.
Charlie Manuel has stated he will be back in 2013, so look for Sandberg to become the bench coach or hitting coach, preparing him to take over in 2014 as the Phillies new manager.
Back in April I wrote this:
It's clear the hitting coach has no effect on this team whatsoever. Milt Thompson couldn't reach them when the demise began, Greg Gross is doing less. Really, they're in a tough position. Gross doesn't have the ability to tell players that have been doing it their way for a decade (or more) to change their approach. Would Ryne be able to get through to them and at least help stop this offense from trending downward?
I don't believe it will help, but perhaps a move like that will show the paying customer that the team is willing to do whatever it can to win. Maybe a Hall of Famer speaking lends more credence than a guy who made his living as a reserve? Hard to say.
I'd like to see Sandberg in time, but I don't know that the time is now. He's doing a hell of a job teaching the youngsters and keeping the Iron Pigs as one of the better programs in triple-A. Keep an eye on this.
As for the bunch fired, Perlozzo had been with the Phillies since 2009, Mackanin also since 2009, and Gross since mid-season 2010.
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They kept Samuel?
Fine. Just get him off the base paths. He's pitiful out there, IMO.
phils should hire the starg matthews as hitting coach.
I see cleaning house and I get all excited.
I see no Ruben Amaro listed in the departed though. And I am sad.
Charlies time to retire too and bring in Ryno.
IMO Charlie deserves a statue in front of the stadium. Also he and Halladay are the only 2 current Phillies with hall of fame credentials.
Making Charlie the only Phillie here for "the run" who is a hall of famer.
Hamels will need to produce for 7 or so more years to be considered.
I am not sure of your hatred toward RAJ, I know you are a hater in general but I thought it was kept for Howard. Lets see a few of the things he did, Aumont is a good reliever Horkst looks like a keeper. He signed Cole, and Doc, and Lee. Got Jroll, whom I assume you hate also, to a team freindly deal. When this team was fully healthy this team played well. He put a talented team out there that underperformed this year. One of the biggest problems with team early was the bull pen, which is a crap shot every year. So I look forward to you going back into your cave and cheering for the mets, until next year when you will disagree with everything philly while they win 100 games. thanks for the comic relief of hate for a guy who produced runs in half a season while recovering from an injury that everybody who knows has said it takes at least a yyear to fully recover.
You've probably missed a few. One of them was letting Werth go instead of giving him the kind of ridiculous contract he got from the Nats. Another was taking a chance on Pedro Martinez. Letting Burrell go could qualify as a good move, and getting Juan Pierre on a minor league contract was definitely a winner.
AFW is not the only one here vocal in his hatred of Amaro. I can't see it, myself. It's like hating your Grandmother because even though she baked some delicious cookies, she didn't bake the kind you wanted that day.
Are you kidding me? the Phillies have systematicaly fallen farther away from the ws every year since Amaro has been at the helm. Is this causation? no, but I think is certainly makes a case for a possible correlation.
Also, you say the Phillies have been playing great? I think you overestimate the offense on that one. The phils have been masking their offensive inefficencies since 2010. Again, in 2010-11 offensive production was avg. 23rd in 09, 11 in 2010, and 16 in 2011, and 15 in 2012. However, i know this is only a part of the tale. Actually the phillies best season outcomes have had their lowest hitting avg. But the one statistic offensively that i think made the difference was in those seasons their HR hitting was phenomenal. So, what happened? Another possible correlation. the amount of Hr have consistently gone down. In 08 core hitters produced 159 homeruns, in 09 they produced 167, in 2010 98 hr, in 2011 81 hr and in 2012 64 hr. So whos to blame? Ryan howard has steadily declined as has utley. Obviously this season due to injury but their numbers were in decline before the injuries. In 08 pat Burrell was a major contributer, in 09 he was replaced by Ibanez and so was his production. Werth performed even better in 09, so production was fine in 08, and 09. Though pitching seemed to be the biggest concern, in 2010 Amaro swapped out Lee for Halliday. A dime for ten pennies. offensively Ibanez Howard Utley and werth underperformed. This is where Amaro made his fatal mistake. At this point in 2010 offensive power had been decreased by almost half, yet Amaro opts to splurge on pitching. By 2011, Werth is gone, Ibanez is average, howard is average, and Utley is terrible, 11HR. power production is even lower then in 2010. And we all know what happens in 2012; everybody underperforms. Ibanez gone, Werth gone, Utley and Howard gone, and the pitching staff collapses which now can no longer mask the terrible bullpen. Worley and kendrick moved from Bullpen to starters. So what shall we look forward to in 2013? howard and Utley at this point probably are what they are. We have no power in the out field, third base is decimated. pitching staff? Halliday getting old, Cliff Lee, hot or cold, Hamels the bright spot, Worley?, Cloyd/kendrick starters? Bullpen? are you F**cking kidding me? Amaro made his mistake by never adequately replacing the power on this team. Sadly i think the window has closed on this core, and with it the end of the dynasty? Even with Utley and Howard well, and Chooch playing like crazy, and even if they get some good offensive pieces, the core is past their prime. Utley can no longer be the 3 hole hitter and Howard must be moved to the 5 hole. Put Rollins at three.
ARc, there is nothing systematic when it comes to short series. The Astros didn't "systematically" take 2 of 3 in Cincinnati last month, and then 3 of 4 from the Phillies. And by the time you get to the playoffs, every team is good and they are so evenly matched that you can't tell who is better in just 5 of 7 games, so the postseason is determined in large part by matchups and which team's players happen to be hot at the time.
Secondly, yes, you're absolutely right that the Phillies' offense has declined since 2009. But looking at batting average and home runs is a very strange way to go about it. The only reason those matter is to generate runs, so why not just look at runs scored?
And you compound that by only focusing on the "core hitters". Who's included there, and why exclude everyone else?
Howard did not decline in 2008-2011. Look at his OPS+ (OPS relative ot the league) in those years: 125, 141, 127, 126.
Utley is not the hitter he was in 2005-2010, but when healthy (like the 2nd half of this year), he's still arguably the best all around second baseman in the game today.
"Splurging on pitching" is a fine strategy, especially if your objective is to win short series. Why didn't they win? See above.
A great predictor of how successful a team is is the differential between how many runs it scores and how many it allows. It does not matter whether you get there by scoring a lot of runs, or by pitching well.
Howard and Utley are what they are? I don't think we know what Howard is until he recovers from the achilles. And again, Utley is the best at his position if he can stay on the field.
Bullpen: they were young and they struggled in the first half, and Qualls didn't help at all, but look at the stats of the bullpen in the second half:
3.03 ERA, 5th lowest in the NL
.200 batting average against, LOWEST IN THE NL
.619 OPS against, 3rd lowest in the NL
That is very encouraging going into next year, and makes me really hope they don't waste their money on another veteran reliever.
Finally, the core is past their prime? Well two reactions:
1. No kidding. 2. So what. All that matters is how good they are, not how they compare to some past peak year. Rollins and Utley are arguably still the best double play combination in baseball. Howard really struggled this year but we'll have to see next year, and Ruiz is actually much better than in 2008-09.
I think Sam did a good job.. I will miss him.
I would love to see Jim Thome as the Phillies' manager one day.
Shouldve gave Davey Lopes the money he wanted…
Clearing the way for Sandberg, Wathan, Thome to join the staff
Finally!!!! Some new coaches, new energy. I agree that Samuel isn't the best at third base. Excited to have Sandberg up. Looking forward to see what moves are made this off-season.
Sandberg isn't up yet. It appears he will be, but there are still other teams out there who will be hiring managers, and Sandberg will definitely be a candidate for one of those positions.
Replacing Samuel probably affects next to nothing. Hiring Sanberg to get him into the system is a good move. Why all the interest in Thome? What or who has he managed?
Hmmmmm, what a non event.
The Dipsy
Can't take another year of Mini Mart. He has to go.
Maybe one of the worst bats in Phillies history.
No maybe about it. He's the worst since John Vuckovich (1970-81).
Of the three firings, I'd say that dumping Gross was the most important. I don't think he could have spotted a flaw in Michael Martinez's stroke.
The Phils will have some new hitters in 2013, some of them young and still learning. They'll need a real coach, not someone who might ruin them all.
I don't much care about 1st base, because I think Lopes' teaching stuck pretty well and now almost anyone will do over there. The Phils still do quite well in stolen base percentage.
As far as Mackanin goes, so many people have griped about Manuel's strategies and player usage, but some of that usually comes from the bench coach. Even if Charlie shook some of it off, it's sometimes wise to have someone else to ask for advice. That's what a bench coach is mostly for.
All in all, I'm glad at least a few heads have rolled. The season can't be blamed completely on injuries.
"The Phils still do quite well in stolen base percentage."
Yep. They led the NL in SB% for the 6th straight year (2007-12) and 8th in the last 9 (2004-05 and 07-12).
(by the way, I think that kind of dominance in a stat over such a long time is pretty unusual)
yes why not look at runs scored, or even go deeper to figure out how those runs were scored
I included the core hitters, those I had excluded have produced an avg amount of power from 08-12 as supporting cast. These players exist on every team. And I think I named the core hitters or the batters that contributed the most with HR. there is a stron gcorrelation with HR and runs scored in the phils org from 08-12
howard may not have declined compared to the league, but he did decline in HR with himself thus affecting the phillies. How he compares to the rest of the league is irrelavent in my analysis.
Again Utley has dropped in every stat since 08. In 2010 his HR hitting dropped by half it was in 08.
again the argument is not a critique on the players as a whole, I just trying to pin point where the decline has come from offensively.
"Splurging on pitching"? I wont touch that, except to say; I think we agree it wasnt the best move at the time.
I think we do know what Howard is because he was what he was before the injury. Bleacher report ranks Utley 15th overall second basemen. Cant rank a player on who he used to be or what he might be. Utley of now is who you got.
As for the bullpen, may they are improving, but also pitchers havent gotten the read on these new pitchers. In other words the sample is to small to get a good indication of what they can do.
And finally on your last point, I did not attempt to gage how good they are now as a point in and of itself, but merely was trying to show a possible correlation between power performance, and the teams ability to make the WS.
Howard: actually, if he didn't decline relative to the league, then it did not affect the Phillies. And if "what he is" is what he was before the injury, then he's someone who hasn't declined since 2008. While that may be the case, we won't know until next year when he's fully healed.
"Splurging on pitching": I don't know how I gave the impression it wasn't the best move. It was a very good move.
Utley: I don't really care where some dude at Bleacher Report ranks him. The stats say that when he was on the field this year, he was one of the 2-3 best second basemen in the game, considering offense, defense, and baserunning.
Finally, power schmower. What matters in the end is wins, and the best predictor of wins is run differential. It doesn't matter whether they generate that difference between runs score and allowed by hitting home runs or pitching well.
I don't agree with those soft pedaling this news, or saying it won't help. It's impossible to tell what communication lines are like between players and coaches, but I suspect the changes could be pretty positive. There'll be managerial changes, but probably a scarcity. I won't say Sandberg won't get a break, but I'd guess it's a tough year. Assuming he doesn't, I can only guess, but mine is it's a terrific move to bring him up, and I assume it'd be a bench coach.
I assume Pete Mac's stock has dropped quite a bit. He seemed a little more than a courtesy interview with the Red Sox last year, and his name was bandied about in Cub circles. I never got the impression he was worth a great deal of fuss, but that's just a fan's impression.
Maybe I believe coaches are more important than some people, but I would hope they can step outside this hometown nepotism of sorts and get some effective communicators on board besides Sandberg.
The Phils would be very fortunate if Sandberg doesn't get his own managing gig this winter. I have serious doubts that he will be back here next season at all. Just a feeling I have, no facts to back it up. You can't hold him back if he gets a good offer, and can't expect him to wait for the end of Charlie's era.
That's interesting that you say that with pretty good conviction. It's so hard to read organizational thinking across the industry, it's not even easy to have insight into the club we follow closely without being on the inside. I just don't see too many changes affording him a timely chance. He might have a wider chance at a plum gig as a coach. I think his best shot might be the Marlins for a manager's job, but as I suggested, for myself at least, I don't know how they think. I wonder what the Phils reaction'd be if he did land something, and if they gave them a right of first refusal. I have a sneaking suspicion he's going to be a pretty good skipper.
all i wanna know is… did they have to wake gross up to tell him? i could just see it! greg……greg…. wake up greg. come on gregg wake up bunky.. atta boy.. are you up now bunky? yea ? good! you're fired . hey sam got your stopwatch? time yourself, see how fast you can go out the door!…..pete you're on third , here's the squeeze go pete go ! go home pete! no really pete i'm go home!
Gross was certainly awake, but he's no doubt still wandering around the clubhouse. He couldn't read a hitter's flaws, so he probably also couldn't read his pink slip.
To be fair, we don't know what he saw or didn't see, what he tried to teach (or not), or any other interactions with players. All we know is that the some of the bad habits that we have seen have persisted.
…we also know that management wants to make a change, either because they think it's what the fans want, or (more likely) because they think they can find someone who will have more of an impact.
Phillies new HELP WANTED ad: Positions available for 1st base coach, hitting coach and bench coach. Experience preferred; good pay plus bonuses for postseason playoffs.;-)
Wow! It make the off season all the more interesting. GM Amaro will reload the team where it is needed as the expectations of management, the media and fans remain the same for next season; to contend for the division title.
The main issues/needs are for 3rd base, a RH bat for OF, and 8th inning setup reliever. It's possible that solutions can be found within the team without the need for a trade. Ruff (RH bat), Frandsen (3rd base) and Aumont and/or Horst (8th inning reliever. A reminder that relieversStutes and Valdez will be back for spring training.
The key factor for this team in making another run for the division crown is the health of Howard, Utley, Rollins, Ruiz, Halladay, Lee and Worley. We wish them all to stay healthy and strong in preparing for next season.
One side note; If Amaro decides a trade is needed, I suggest John Mayberry Jr., Dominic Brown and Vance Worley as trade baits. Also I want to see Juan Pirerre rejoin the team as he provided great value in many ways even at his advanced age.
There are problems with your proposed trade bait. Mayberry won't be percieved as a great option, teams aren't paying a lot these days for "potential" guys like Brown, and Worley is coming off injury and a down season. The three of them as a group probably wouldn't bring back much of any real use for right now. Also, a trade of Worley would mean acquiring another starter, because Cloyd so far is an obvious question mark and no one else is ready.
Based on the team's results, the season ended as it should end. The last out was made by Minimart, also his last in the majors I'm sure.
shenkman, what is it you dont get? some people are so intent on making their point they miss the big picture. Again, the concept is this; I am only pointing out one possible correlation between HR and post season runs. Do you understand me up to this point? I supported this premis with the decline in HR by the power hitters on the phillies since 2008, and the subsequent decline in post season wins. Do you understand to this point? Utley, whether injured, healthy, your wet dream or just avg. his contribution offensively to this team has declined. I dont care if you think he is the best 2nd basemen who ever lived. Finally, there consistent decline has been affected by their offense. This is almost defininately caused by the lack of replacement power on this team. As evidenced from this year, pitching obviously was not the answer. We have no 3rd baseman, utley, Howard, on a decline, Rollins produces, Ruiz is having an atypical year, we have no outfielders, yet you think pitching was the best moves to make? Producing runs is a process. it is a mechanical operation which takes a working line up. Something we lost in mid 2010.
I understand. I just think you're wrong.
To add to that: yes, I think putting together a strong staff was the right move to make, since that is as much of a proven recipe as there is for success in short series. It didn't work out last year, since there are never guarantees in the playoffs, but their dominance and 102 wins last year does validate the strategy.
By the way, did you know that for the 2/3 of the season last year after Utley returned, they had the highest scoring offense in the NL? (not that it was all due to Utley, although getting the Valdez/Orr/Martinez Interim Trio out of the lineup certainly helped).
Obviously having a strong pitching staff is a no brainer. Was it the right move at the right time? I dont think so. Also contrary to superstition, an all star pitching staff does not win WS. As a matter of fact, of the top greatest pitching staffs ever assembled, only one has won a WS. Also let me teach you a postulate of statistics. In a short series/ toss of the dice, your more likely to get irregular outcomes. Over a long haul youre more likely to get an accurate representation of true performance. So, a short series statistically is more likely to favor a weaker team, while exploiting any inconsistency of the overall better team. What youre doing by implying that the Phillies have a better shot in the playoffs based on the record, or what youve just used to formulate an opinion is called " a representative heuristic" which means youre basing the short term performance at any given time of an entity based on the redundant internal characteristics of that entity( consistently good pitching). Basing your reasoning on the internal consistency of the phillies performance is faulty. (sorry to get so academic, im an Ivy league psych major). Obviously, baseball is not based, or cannot be predicted by any postulates, theories or axioms of academia, but if you do believe the advantage goes to a team like a 102 game winning pitching staff, in a short series statistics say differently. Rangers produced 808 runs vs Oaklands 713 runs. The Rangers almost have 100 more rbis also. The Rangers are the best hitting team .274 in the mlb, the Athletics are 3rd from last .238 on offense while the pitching differentials are negligible; Oakland 3.48 vs. Rangers 3.99.
After you account for eras the rangers still produced about 20 more runs than the As. However for their one game playoff, having an avg of almost 3 runs a game could only produce one run, while the third worst offense were able to produce 5 runs.
As far as utley is concerned, again, If he played the whole season we're probably looking at Jroll production, which would be good for second best on the team, as far as second baseman is concerned he'd be 2nd or third most productive in the MLB. that is awesome, and If he is able to even return to his declined state, he will be of the top second basemen in the league. My only point was that his production has declined since 08 and with that, the phillies offensive output has declined, and it seems there is a synchronous decline between that and post season runs. I know we can at least both agree on that?
What I'm saying (and what I already said earlier) is that the "better" team does have a small advantage, but a small series is that small advantage is often trumped by the vagaries of amatchups, who's hot, etc. The most important thing is getting to the postseason so you can get a bite at the apple.
Your Oakland/Texas matchup is pretty silly. There was a half-run difference in the ERAs you cited, which isn't "negligible; it's substantial. Texas could only score one because the A's pitching was that much better, (it was THEIR consuistent strength in 2012) and actually contained the Texas offense. The fact that Oakland scored 5 is also not all that big a deal when you consider that Texas usually gave up nearly four.
Anyone who follows baseball is familiar with the axiom that "good pitching beats good hitting." Oakland won simply because their consistent strenth WAS an advantage in a short series.
I'm not saying this always holds true, but you should really pick a better example.
George, if you paid attention when you read my post you would see that i aready acounted for how Oaklands ERA would suppress some of the Rangers offensive power, but even with Oalands bettter ERA I still calculated Texas putting up around 20 more runs. While Oakland takes a half a run per ever 9 innings, the Rangers still produce about a run more per 10 at bats.
And I dont consider the " good pitching beats good hitting" and axiom. Its more like circular reasoning to me. If the hitting is good wouldnt that automatically make the pitching not so good and vice versa? can bad pitching beat good hitting? Can bad hitting beat good pitching? Ive seen the best pitchers have good games and lose, and Ive seen the worst pitchers win, same with hitting. Again my point was that the best offensive team in the Al could not produce a run in a 1 game series. The Phillies having the best pitching staff in 2012 could not prevent one run in a 5 game series. Using internal consistency as a measure of a teams potential in a short sample favors inconsistency. Im also sorry, I meant the orioles. Maybe now my post makes more sense.
I won't address all of that, but in the axiom "good pitching beats good hitting", "good" is meant to describe how that pitching or hitting has been proven to be over time, like over a full season. So the axiom is that when (proven) good pitching meets (proven) good hitting in a game or short series, the good pitching wins more often. I hope that helps.


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MONTPELIER House lawmakers thumbed their noses at the federal courts Tuesday by passing a campaign-finance bill that would impose a $5,000 limit on donations to super PACs.
The Senate is less keen, however, on a provision that would no doubt trigger a costly constitutional challenge. And election watchdogs say the headline-grabbing super PAC language has diverted attention away from other provisions that would only heighten the influence of money on Vermont politics.
The House action comes less than a year after U.S. District Court Judge William Sessions issued a campaign-finance ruling in which he warned that Vermont likely has no legal authority to limit contributions to super PACs.
The state has not offered a persuasive basis on which to limit contributions to a political action committee that only makes independent expenditures, Sessions said in a 2012 case involving the Vermont Right to Life Committee.
Attorney General William Sorrell responded to Sessions decision by saying his office would no longer enforce the $2,000 contribution limit now written into statute. But House Speaker Shap Smith said last week he thinks the state can defend the $5,000 limit against constitutional challenge.
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There are arguments we can make for example, trying to avoid corruption or the appearance of corruption of large monied interests in a political campaign, Sorrell said.
But he said the case is anything but a slam dunk, and that a loss would put Vermont on the hook for the legal fees of whoever challenges the law. The state paid out $1.6 million in attorney fees when the U.S. Supreme Court tossed out Vermonts previous attempts at limiting the money spent in elections.
Eve Jacobs-Carnahan, an assistant attorney general who specializes in campaign finance law, said costs to the state in another challenge could vary, depending on the type of case and how its litigated. But she said in an email that if a party suing the state were to prevail in the lawsuit, it could cost the state several million dollars.
Thats money that Sen. Jeannette White, chairwoman of the Senate Committee on Government Operations, said she isnt willing to risk, especially on a provision she said has little hope of surviving a challenge.
And she said the last-minute changes by the House threaten passage of a bill that also contains heightened disclosure requirements aimed at helping Vermonters at least monitor who is funding super PACs and how the money is being spent.
Paul Burns, executive director of the Vermont Public Interest Research Group, said that as lawmakers try to tamp down on contributions to super PACs, they have actually increased limits on donations to statewide candidates, political parties and conventional political action committees.
Contribution limits to statewide candidates would jump from $2,000 to $4,000 per two-year cycle under the House plan; individual donations to parties and PACs would go from $2,000 to $5,000.
There are many parts of this bill that actually increase the amount of money in politics, and we dont really see the justification of that, Burns said.
Members of the House and Senate will meet in the coming days to try to iron out a compromise in advance of what leaders say will be a Saturday adjournment.
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This year I did something I've never done before. Early in the year I opened up a SmartyPig account to save for my Christmas Expenses. Every month I had a set amount of money automatically withdrawn into my SmartyPig account. I never missed it, because I never saw the money.
Though I used SmartyPig, you could use an Capital One 360 Savings Sub-Account or even a savings account at your local bank or credit union.
Now that I've saved for almost a year, I'm reaping the benefits of stashing my money away.
All my Christmas presents have been bought, save for a couple of things for my parents and in-laws. I already know what I'm getting them though, so it's just a matter of picking them up. I have the money in my bank account to pick up the gifts, so I'm not worried about affording their presents.
By saving a set amount for Christmas, I know exactly how much I have to spend. I've already made a commitment to stick to my Christmas budget, so when I'm shopping, I avoid the temptation of buying something on a whim.
Furthermore, I avoid the attitude of "well, I'm already going into debt….what's 10 more dollars?" The reason I know about that attitude is I've been there. This year if I go over budget, I'll be going into debt. Although that would be pretty difficult, since I cut up my credit cards.
I was more intentional about the gifts I bought this year. Since I didn't want a bunch of clutter in my house, I decided not to buy a bunch of little things that would get stuffed into corners. I figure the grandparents will take care of that.
Instead, I went for a big family gift: a Nintendo Wii. (Shhhh! Don't tell the kids!) I figure this is something we can all enjoy together. And since I was deliberate in my saving and planning, I was able to pick one up at Target a month ago. I won't be standing in line in the wee hours of the cold morning to try to get one of 10 available at Toys R Us the day after Thanksgiving. (I don't know if Toys R Us is even advertising a Wii on Black Friday, but you get the picture.)
Maybe it won't be stress-FREE, but it will be a low stress Christmas for sure. I don't have to fight the crowds. I'm not worried about money. I plan on spending lots of time baking with the kids, listening to Christmas music…in my home and NOT in the stores…, and watching all the old Christmas TV specials with my family.
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It is so nice to start the new year off and not have to pay for Christmas presents for the next few months! A cash Christmas is the way to go!
This is a great thing to promote. We're also having a cash Christmas for the second year and it's worth it. We try to emphasize what the holiday means and really focus on that and it's so much nicer.
Way to go!
Although I won't exactly call my spending frugal this year, I did end up spending a lot less than I was expecting to spend!
Excellent work! I've actually got savings accounts set up for all of my "fun" things: travel, a new tv, and so on. I fund it with insurance benefits refunds, that way I don't miss the money because it was already budgeted for & spent, and then I save up for things. I tend to buy Xmas presents year-round, whenever I see something I like for someone. This year I got everybody for less than $50, which is great! Besides, for me, Christmas is more about getting together with family & eating food rather than the exchanging of presents. :-)
I am with you on this one! Who wants to start the new year worrying about the previous year's debt!
Since I have only one child, I shopped for him at ToysRUs.com-they take PayPal!!
My PayPal pulled the money out of my checking account. So Santa shopping is done and paid for and I am one happy mama!!!
We totally, only pay with cash we have. If we have to go to a credit…well…no gift, etc..then. Only twice have we had anything on a credit card that I can remember for Christmas…and that is husband's ideas both because he wanted to get me a nice necklace one year and this laptop a different year. Can't fault him for that. Love them both! :-)
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Ain't it great! That feeling of being done!
No stress, time to relax and enjoy, no fighting the crowds! And no credit card bills!
I shop all year long and stash away. This weekend, I sorted and wrapped. I have one package to mail off today, and I am done done done! I will have to admit tho that I am usually done in Sept… but this year I wasn't done until the 2nd week in October – which is late for me!
Now – enjoy the holidays! Yes!
My one splurge was two large prepackaged everything included sugar cookie boxed with decorations mixes at Costco – about $8 each – One for each of the grandkids' locations. I'll have Christmas cookie baking time in Albany with those 4 and in Tillamook with these 4 :) Special time, for little cash. Great memories – that's what this season should be about – the time together – not the hassle of shopping!
That's what I'm talking about. I hope you encouraged family to do the same and if they cannot limit shopping to cash, not to buy you anything.
Paying cash makes me more thoughtful when buying a gift…"will this person really use and enjoy this?"
Well done. I checked out SmartyPig. What a great idea. Thanks for alerting me to it!
I plan a cash only Christmas but haven't started shopping yet. For some reason I just don't have any desire to run out to the stores.
Today I'm writing my list and hopefully will have everything finished by the end of November.
I did the same thing this year and posted about it last week. It's so nice to have my shopping done and not have to worry about fighting crowds, not finding gifts, etc.
I'll be starting my new Christmas account with the first check in January!
That is so great. I am actually looking forward to the holidays a lot. This year one side of the family is just exchanging names so we don't have to buy for everyone. For the other sides, we are doing a charitable donation to a local charity instead of buying gifts for one another. I also did some side jobs to earn our holiday money this year which will definitely help so it doesn't eat into the family budget.
Great discussion!
I'm doing the same thing this year. My parents are buying the Wii for our 4 kids, and another small gift. My husband and I are paying for everything in cash this year, and even before black Friday we have half of our Christmas shopping done. I'm so glad I won't owe a soul a cent when this Christmas shopping is over, and that alone is a huge gift to me this year.
I started doing the same thing a few years ago. I just wrote about it and what a relief it is to me to not have to worry about money this holiday season. I am using a credit card for some online bargains, but then immediately setting up a bill pay online for that exact amount. That way I don't accumulate any debt.
What a great feeling! I'm happy that I'll be having a cash-only Christmas as well. It's my first one. :)
fortunately, i had a lot more income from my photography business this fall, so that became my savings plan. i have been able to buy a new (okay, refurbished) iMac and will have the cash to get all our presents. i will also be able to throw some money toward our shrinking debt. i'm so happy about not having to put everything on credit cards this year. and i'm also happy that several of our relatives are all about scaling back this year. that makes a big difference in my stress level.
Way to go!
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Youth not wasted on PGA rookie Spieth
ATLANTA How young is the youngest player ever to climb the ladder to the Tour Championship?
Jordan Spieth is younger than just about every member of the boy band One Direction.
While he has earned the right to belly up to every sumptuous buffet table on the PGA Tour trying to learn to control myself with those, thats been a change, he said he is still about 10 months away from hitting the clubhouse bar.
Such an awkward age. Im kind of in the middle ground that nobody really cares about, between being a teenager and being 21, he said.
So young that the median annual income for his Hamburger Helper/thrift-shop-wardrobe demographic group is a little more than $17,000. Spieth has done somewhat better in his first year of professional golf, his earnings coming into East Lake topping $3 million.
So young that his face and his club face bear an equal amount of stubble. Younger than the term email. Younger than a certain up-and-comer named Eldrick Woods the first time he won a PGA Tour event.
Turning pro in December, then turning 20 in July, the kid has been rushed to the front lines of the PGA Tour ahead of any sane schedule. At the beginning of the season, my kind of lofty goal was to earn my PGA Tour card for the 2014 season, he said.
He would have been happy preparing for next weeks Web.com championship, trying to earn those playing privileges the hard way. Instead, he will be at East Lake, an equal among the 29 other hottest players on the planet, chasing a seven- to eight-figure payday.
A 20-year-old ranks 13th in the FedEx Cup points standings, above Jason Dufner, above Sergio Garcia, above Luke Donald, above Keegan Bradley.
A player who began 2013 without any automatic entry to any event, ranked 810th in the world, today enjoys full Tour privileges and a No. 30 world ranking.
And hes loving every blessed second of it.
Were very spoiled, Spieth said of himself and his professional peers.
This week, there are only 30 guys on the course in the purest condition. And we dont have to pay to play it. We get paid to play it. Just adapting to that week to week has been a little different.
Shoot, while hes here, he might as well make some noise.
I didnt think (the Tour Championship) would be a possibility this year at the beginning of the year, he said, but now that Im here, its time to maybe make something special happen.
I like the look of this golf course. I love the greens. I think its going to be a really cool opportunity for me, I think Ive been playing well (enough) leading up to the last few weeks to maybe make a run at it.
Spieths precociousness showed itself when he was a 16-year-old hometown Dallas kid who played as an amateur in the Byron Nelson Classic. He finished 16th. He didnt seem afraid of anything, Corey Pavin said after playing with him there in 2010.
Another pro got to know him this summer when Spieth holed out from the bunker on the 72nd hole at the John Deere Classic to force his way into a three-way playoff, which he eventually won. Here comes another youngest distinction: Spieth became the youngest winner on the PGA Tour since 1931.
The first thing that comes to my mind and I would assume my peers who have gotten to know him at least somewhat think the same is mature, said Zach Johnson, one of Spieths playoff victims.
I know hes 20, and Im sure there are things that hes doing that I was doing when I was 20, Johnson continued. But it seems to me that his mental approach and how he plays is extremely mature, just very well-constructed.
Phenom is a big word, but if hes not a phenom, he certainly is close.
While he has made it look easy playing up in age, Spieth says some of that is illusion. Im very clumsy, he said. I guess I kind of have to adapt to act the way these guys do at their age.
After one year playing college golf at Texas and winning an NCAA title Spieth decided he could wait no longer to play with the big boys. He had a plan. He would cherry-pick a couple of sponsors exemptions early, pop into a couple of events at the Triple-A level, the Web.com Tour, and gradually build a platform for his career.
Now, put that plan in a centrifuge and turn it on high.
By March he had a partial Tour exemption after finishes of second in Puerto Rico and seventh in the Tampa Bay Championship. Another top-10 finish at the RBC Heritage the next month gained him full-exempt status. He kept piling up strong finishes, including the victory at the John Deere, until he was a surprise force in the FedEx Cup points race.
His finishes at the three playoff events leading to the Tour Championship 19th, 4th, 16th have not betrayed his age or inexperience. In the meantime, he also was a captains pick for the upcoming Presidents Cup. The average age of the other 11 members of the U.S. team is 34.8 years old.
These next three weeks are the most important weeks of the year for me. I couldnt be more excited for them, he said.
But, by now, Spieth can approach them as a wizened vet.
Here is the hurry-up kid preaching the virtues of taking it slowly and deliberately. The only time Ive really gotten myself in trouble this year is when I tried to do too much, he said. Its a matter of just being patient on and off the course.
They grow up so fast, dont they?
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Excuse me .. our best quarter was the 4th quarter, we outscored the Magic 32-14 (Melo did not play in the 4th qtr.)
When HC Woodson stop putting Melo in every lineup with Stat, u will take back the above statement.
As a Earl the Pearl Knicks fan .... I would still trade Melo before the trading deadline.Carmelo Anthony says he's trying to shoot -- and score -- less and it's working for the Knicks, who pummeled the Orlando Magic, 121-83, at Madison Square Garden on Friday night.
"I wanted to do something a little different to see if it worked," Anthony said. "Me scoring 30 wasn't working."
I love it, Good things to hear from our leader.
Melo's comment above was told to Melo 5 years ago when PG-Chauncey Billups only let Melo average 22 points a game (the year Melo visit the WCF). Who was the LEADER...


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We could be 1 game behind the sixers after this weekend following two potential loses by Philly to the Celtics and Spurs.
Thought I would try to make it easier for you guys to see the remaining schedule for these four teams.
Knicks..Celtics...... Sixers
3/21- @Sixers....(W)...3/22- @Bucks.....(W)........ ..3/21-Knicks......(L)
3/23- @Raptors..(L)......3/23- @Sixers.....(L)......... 3/23-Celtics.....(W)
3/24- Pistons.....(W)....3/25- Wizards......(W).........3/25- @Spurs (L)
3/26- Bucks.......(W)....3/26- @Bobcats...(W)..........3/27- Cavs (W)
3/28- Magic.......(W) ....3/28- Jazz .........(W)...........3/30- @Wizard (L)
3/30- @Hawks....(L)....3/30- @Wolves......(W)..........3/31- Hawks (W)
3/31- Cavs.........(W)....4/1- Miami.........................4/3- @Miami
4/3- @Pacers..............4/4 Spurs..........................4/4- Raptors
4/5- @Magic...............4/5 @Bulls........................ 4/7- Magic
4/8- Bulls....................4/7@ Pacers...................... 4/8- @Celtics
4/10- @Bulls................4/8- Sixers........................ 4/10- @Nets
4/11- @Bucks..............4/10- @Miami................... 4/11- @Raptors
4/13- Wizards..............4/11- Hawks .....................4/13- Nets
4/15-Miami..................4/13- @Raptors.................. 4/16- @Magic
4/17- Celtics ..............4/14- @Nets....................... 4/17- Pacers
4/18- @Nets...............4/15- @Bobcats.................. 4/18 @cavs
4/20- @Cavs...............4/17- @Knicks.................. 4/21- @Pacers
4/22- @Hawks.............4/18- Magic....................... 4/23- @nets
4/25- Clippers..............4/20- @Hawks................. 4/25- @Bucks
4/26- @Bobcats.......... 4/24- Miami.................... 4/26- @Pistons
................................4/26- Bucks.................................................. ....
3/22- Boston *******(L)
3/23- @Bobcats*******3 games in a row (W)
3/24- Indiana ******* (L)
3/26- @Knicks (L)
3/27- Hawks (W)
3/30- @Cavs (W)
3/31- Grizzlies (L)
4/2- @Wizards
4/4- Cavs
4/6- Bobcats
4/7- Blazers
4/9- Thunder
4/10 Knicks
4/13- @pistons
4/14 Pacers
4/18- @Wizards
4/19 @Pacers
4/21- Nets
4/23- Raptors
4/25- Sixers
4/26- @celtics
Teams above .500
Teams Above .600
- Knicks play 11 teams above .500
- Celtics play 12 teams above .500
- Sixers play 10 teams above .500
- Bucks play 9 teams above. 500
Road games
- Knicks play 5 teams above .600
- Celtics play 5 teams above .600
- Sixers play 4 teams above .600
- Bucks play 1 team above .600
The remaining schedule for these four teams does seem pretty much equal. The Knicks have (2) remaining games agains the Bucks, which would be huge to win. They also have (1) left against the Celtics at home, and (1) left against the Sixers today.
- Knicks (11)
- Celtics (12)
- Sixers (12)
- Bucks (8)
The Hawks schedule on paper looks really easy. The Knicks really have to collect a lot of wins to catch up to them. The Bucks also have 11 games left against teams above 500 and have caught fire as of late with a 5 game win streak.
Last edited by CoolRunnings; Apr 01, 2012 at 16:48.
We could be 1 game behind the sixers after this weekend following two potential loses by Philly to the Celtics and Spurs.
The way our boys have been playing, I am thinking ECF already.
Thank you, MDA. Your resignation was the best play you've drawn up in New York.
Great thread Coolrun worth some rep
sixers have the easiest schedule out the 3 its not super easy but fairly easy , this is the NBA anything can happen on any given night
look at Bostons schedule for April my god that will be hell for them minus the exception of about 3 teams they will play. There not a deep team like us and there old this will only hurt them
The Bucks have a fairly easy schedule to but, lets not forget they are still the "Bucks" they can go into a Losing streak at anytime i think they will make the playoffs though there playing good basketball i think they can knock out the celtics and wrap up the 8th spot i still dont see Boston keeping up with that april schedule and back2backs no way no how if they do then kudos to them. They will be a tough out if they manage to make the playoffs.
The knicks can surpass the Celtics im very confident they will surpass them look who we got coming up Craptors put us back at 500 then we have the pistons and then we have a very tough schedule coming up after that, but the way were playing we can beat ANYBODY in this league.
From 3/28 to 4/11 if we can go 6-2 or 5-3 were in great shape
Looks like the Celtics definitely have a tougher schedule then us and they have a back to back to back spanning from April 13th to April 15th. Its against easy teams (Raptors, Nets, Bobcats) but they're bound to lose one of those games. They have been impressive for old men, ill give them that but i guarantee they dont handle their biz on one of those nights
Nice thread by the way, Antoni's 6 game losing streak really hurt us but we have one more win to go before we cancel that out and who knows what to expect from the strugglin 76ers (4-6 in last 10 games) and the Celtics who have been solid to this point but could fall off at any moment as we've seen in the past from them.
Garnett is now the Celtics starting Center and he's been seeing a lot of mintues. At his age, coming out of high school and all those miles on his legs look for him to really slow down. They don't have anyone really backing him up off the bench either. While on the topic of thier bench, thier bench suckksssss. I am also confident we will surpass them.
The X-Factor out of all these teams is really the Bucks. No1 really knows what to expect out of them, becuase of the trade for Elis.
^ Thats definitely true about their bench, they have some guys contribute occasionally like Pietrus and Marquis Daniels who just came back from injury
But our bench aka the infamous mobb deep is easily superior to Bostons, your right about garnett too. Hes played in so many games, i give him his props for what hes done to this point but he could fall off any game now. Pierce has definitely lost a little something but hes still very smart and slick. Allen can still play, Rondo is the Knicks killer. He rapes us everytime with no vaseline, he uses our own blood as lube. Im hoping Woodson will come up with a better defensive gameplan to slow down Rondo then Antoni did. I believe Woody will, if we can slow down Rondo we can easily beat them. Pierce will probably get his, hes clutch against us but slowing down Rondoe is key
Ilyasova has decided that he's a baller, and Drew Gooden just got player of the week honors. Might be wrong there.
Whatever the result, the East's low seeds will be decided in a very tight race.
Ironically I would love it that way and ask for nothing else. Once the playoff start team records dont carry over, only thing that does is the streak and hot play of a team. So maybe Woody is a gift from God, and if we continue to play like this, it will be to our benifit going into the playoff hot while other teams like Miami, and Chicago will rest thier stars. (causing a break in rythm)
Anyone else not feeling this Bucks team? I just don't think they'll last. No excuses if Knicks don't make the playoffs.


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The prospective groom is a 2004 graduate of A.C. Jones High School and a 2008 graduate of Austin Community College with an associate's degree of applied science in building and construction technologies. He is the grandson of JoAnn Hughes of Beeville and JoAnn Boren of New Braunfels and is employed with Tindol Construction.
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There seems to be some sort of fundamental misunderstanding around my house, in which my children perceive me as being hideously old-fashioned and, in fact, just plain old.
Nothing could be further from the truth. I am a very groovy, hip and with-it chick. I love to sit around and have a far-out time rapping with my friends. We all have a gas.
I can dance YMCA to the Village People. I can do the frug. I can still stay up past 9 p.m. Well, unless I need to crash early so I can book it to a groovy happening the next day.
I don't know why my teenage offspring don't see my cool and youthful Inner Self.
They demonstrate their lack of understanding by, for example, becoming red-faced and slinking away whenever I start dancing, whether it's in public or in my own living room.
They also look at me in horror when I sing along with their favorite songs on the radio, as if this somehow disturbs the fragile balance of the universe.
"Mom, please!" they beg and change the channel frantically until they find a song I don't know.
They refuse to listen to my stories about how much I loved my Twiggy doll, threatening to climb out on a ledge next time they hear the words "real hair eyelashes."
Or how my boyfriends got thrown out of public places for having long shaggy hair — a concept they can't even imagine. Neither the idea that long hair was once considered shockingly disreputable nor the idea it was once considered tight and stylish.
Or how I once saw Paul McCartney get out of his navy blue Mercedes sedan while standing in the famous crosswalk at Abbey Road Studios.
To them, this is like hearing Attila the Hun tell anecdotes about ransacking, well, whatever he ransacked. Or Michaelangelo spin tales of painting the Sistine Chapel.
"Oy," he says, "My aching back from lying on that scaffolding! I need a hot stone massage like crazy."
Me, too. And it's nothing to do with age. I've just been dancing too much.
This bums me out.
My mirror is also cooperating in this conspiracy to make me feel old before my time. I don't know who that person is staring back at me while I brush my teeth, but she has a disturbing jowly appearance that's starting to look alarmingly like my mother.
In all seriousness, this simply cannot be. Because I know that I am still hip and trendy.
Didn't I just explain to several friends about agave nectar and demonstrate its use in my very own kitchen? I drank a Cabo-tini the other day and used the word "fierce" in a sentence.
Don't I have both a Facebook and a Twitter account?
Admittedly, when I stand in line at the supermarket checkout I no longer read the tabloids without buying them, because I have no idea who any of those people are on the cover.
But that's just the nature of today's disjointed pseudo-celebrity culture, and no reflection of my age. Really.
Don't I know the words to several Lady Gaga songs, after hearing them 10,001 times on the car radio? That proves I'm not gaga myself.
I did sort of gag when Curly Girl's friend's mother brought her over one day on a skateboard. Both of them. On skateboards. It made me realize that not everyone adopted their kids at age 46, like I did.
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Hit and runs, reckless driving and theft complaints continue to rise in Live Oak County.
A few of the other complaints received by the LOC sheriff's office are as follows.
Sandia - Caller advised they are trying to sell their home but the neighbors goats are making this harder because they have eaten all the neighbors grass and are effecting the property value.
TR - Caller informs dispatchers that a man has decided to take a nap on the floor of the Post Office.
GW - A disturbance call at the courthouse was a woman screaming and yelling in the hallways demanding to speak with a judge that was not present at the time.
GW - Caller reports that someone vandalized his truck over night, his truck was now covered in various stickers.
LOC - Home owners report that upon entering their weekend home they discovered someone had broke in but took nothing and left the refrigerator door wide open.
LOC - Complaint concerning a man on highway 59 pointing a rifle at passing vehicles, the man was actually holding a pressure washer.
TR - Caller informs sheriffs that neighbors pit bull was in her chicken coop and she had to use a hoe to keep the dog from biting her, caller stated next time she would just shoot the dog.
TR - Caller request assistance, she is babysitting and the children will not mind her and they refuse to help her clean the house.
GW - Disturbance call from a man angry that he was told a price for his metal but after the unloaded all he had the worker then told him a different and much lower price.
LOC - Caller advises that her nephew keeps harassing her by sending her computer viruses and he is not allowed to contact her in any way.
TR - Caller request assistance because a neighbor is threatening to send his girlfriend over to beat her up.
GW - Caller reports that when he arrived home he discovered that his wife had destroyed his big screen television, tore up the house, took his bank card, all his cash and has now left.


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Written by Guest on 05.01.2012 at 21:33
I love this album; surely it's not as good as Burn, but still very enjoyable.
The weaker tracks are the 2 Hughes numbers You can't do it right and Love don't mean a thing; still listenable though, they're not bad at all.
Written by Milena on 06.01.2012 at 16:33
I agree with you sir. Although those tracks might be more boring, I still feel Glenn was a better singer than David back then, but David improved immensely in those early years of Whitesnake.
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 06.01.2012 at 21:59
Glenn is still way better than David (even though I do like David) just check out his work on Black Country Communion and especially the BCC live dvd that was released this year. Glenn is totally the voice of rock.
Written by Milena on 06.01.2012 at 22:14
Well, I'm still a bit inclined to vote for David, simply because of the evolution and my love for 70's Whitesnake. Though my grades for 80's Whitesnake are way higher simply because those are coherent albums and are probably one of the more decent things glam metal left behind... the older albums just had good songs that shined but nothing special in the rest.
Written by Troy Killjoy on 06.01.2012 at 22:34
If Whitesnake weren't glam then what were they? I've always thought of them as a hard rock/glam band.
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 06.01.2012 at 22:26
Whitesnake have never been glam metal. They might have looked glam with the hair, but then again so did most thrash bands in the 80s, but their music had nothing to do with it at all.
Written by Milena on 06.01.2012 at 22:46
their radio hits sound pretty glamish to me.
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 06.01.2012 at 22:47
totally not, musically way too bluesy and intricate even to be considered glam.
Written by Milena on 06.01.2012 at 22:51
Well, glad to see my old stance is not just my own refusal to have anything involved with the glam scene (although I picked up a couple of nice albums in the style afterwards) but actually someone else's opinion as well But you must agree that, even if it sounded too firmly rooted in the older Whitesnake sound, their look and videos showed a deliberate desire to go in the general direction of those trends.
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 06.01.2012 at 22:54
Like I said their look ws even found in thrash metal at the time, it was your general 80s look at the time. And those videos were garnered at MTV airplay but then again so were Iron Maiden's videos.
Written by Milena on 06.01.2012 at 22:56
Well, there was certainly a difference between Dave Mustaine's look and videos and David Coverdale's look and videos back in the day
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 06.01.2012 at 23:01
Look at Overkill's hair at the time
Written by Troy Killjoy on 06.01.2012 at 22:47
I don't care for them or the genre anyway so it doesn't matter to me what people think. I'll still refer to them as a glam band.
Written by Valentin B on 07.01.2012 at 18:39
that is a completely false and ignorant statement. I know you're a reviewer though so for historical purposes, DP were not and are not a glam band. I'm not entirely sure how you can even compare DP (who are extremely heavily influenced by jazz and blues) with glam. would a glam band ever write a 10 minute war epic or a 6 minute song in 6/8 beat about being lost in the mountains, which contains a goddam bass solo?
if DP were glam rock, then it suffices to say that Judas Priest were glam rock, and probably Rainbow and Maiden too. hell, at least Priest and Maiden still retain some of their 80s image, so aside from the fact they had similar musical styles back in the 70s/80s, similar image and lyrics, so would you call them glam too?
Written by Valentin B on 07.01.2012 at 18:39
Written by Troy Killjoy on 06.01.2012 at 22:47
I don't care for them or the genre anyway so it doesn't matter to me what people think. I'll still refer to them as a glam band.
[rant about DP not being glam]
edit: shit, why are you people even discussing Whitesnake on a Deep Purple thread? Troy, please ignore this rambling post , though to be honest even Whitesnake aren't glam (except of course for Here I Go Again), their 70s stuff was actually quite similar to DP without keyboards.
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 07.01.2012 at 18:46
So the song Here I Go Again was glam, but not the rest of the self titeld album according to you? And nope that album wasn't glam either
Written by Ruchesko on 07.05.2015 at 05:48
Could this be Deep Purple's "Technical Ecstasy" moment?
It's not bad - no album with Blackmore and Lord on is - but yeah...


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Scientists behind a new study have identified behavior changes donkeys show when they experience pain relief.... Read More
BLM Seeks Shooters in Burro Case
February 03, 2014
The BLM is hoping the public can help identify those responsible for the shooting deaths of two wild burros.... Read More
Michigan Man Charged for Allegedly Maltreating DNR Donkey
December 12, 2013
The allegedly neglected donkey was one of three residing at one property; the others allegedly died.... Read More
Workshop Aims to Reduce Disease Impact on Working Equids
November 15, 2013
Delegates will try to find ways to reduce impact of diseases on working equids.... Read More
Equine World Records Reviewed
November 14, 2013
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Scientists Work to Save Persian Onager from Extinction
November 02, 2013
Researchers recently accepted the challenge of producing onager foals via artificial insemination. ... Read More
Extinct Zebra Subspecies Could Aid Equine Research
September 21, 2013
This revived species could offer scientists some exciting equine research opportunities.... Read More
UC Davis to Host Donkey Welfare Symposium
September 20, 2013
Goals of the symposium are to improve participants' knowledge of donkey behavior, physiology, and more.... Read More
Mules Rule Over Horses, Donkeys in Spatial Cognition Tests
September 16, 2013
Mules appear to have a faster capacity to navigate around objects than horses and donkeys, researchers say.... Read More
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