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This weekend was mostly unfortunate for the Phillies outside of their 16-run barrage on Friday night, which happened to be the only time this season the team has eclipsed 10 runs in game.
Few things:
-Yaisel Puig certainly looks like the real deal. And it's a damn shame he ripped on the Phils all weekend, although we're seeing history in the making. With four hits on Sunday, Puig finished June with 44 hits, surpassing the 42 by Pittsburgh's Bob Elliott in September 1939 for the second-most in a player's first full calendar month in the major leagues. Joe DiMaggio had 48 in May 1936. Puig also eclipsed the Los Angeles Dodgers ' record for most hits in a month by a rookie, set by Steve Sax in August 1982.
-The news of Cole Hamels being pushed back is disheartening, but necessary. The guy needs to clear his head and come back against the Pirates with a strong outing.
-It's nice to see Ben Revere hitting. His average is up to .289, so if you ripped on the guy, time to apologize.
-Ryan Howard is now 0-for-20 on this current slump, including 11 strikeouts. Do they DL him? Do they bench him? You know it's ugly when Charlie Manuel is swapping him out in a big hitting situation for Kevin Frandsen.
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I love running Jake Diekman and Justin De Fratus out there every night to expose the disaster that is the franchise.
Lets face it folks even the 85 Phillies put a 26 spot on the up and coming Mets. The 16 runs scored against the Dodgers on Friday reminded me of that game. This team is completely cooked. Howard must be hurt so put him on the DL. As for Hamels he needs to fess up if he's hurt. If not, he needs to use some of that contract money to pay for a sports psychologist not push his starts back to clear his head. Usually I'm disappointed with their play but this weekend series actually made me want to stop watching them. I know I's regain my senses tomorrow. when will Dave Montgomery and the ownership regain theirs.
Again I apologize for the typos above. Long weekend.
May have to start upping the ante for Cuban superstars..Puig is the real deal!!
We'll see after two or three trips around the league.
You'll see after 15 years of NL dominance..
15 years from now he'll be 47.
That would be 25 years..and one hell of a career..
Who else is tired of watching Ryan Howard just shaking his head after each and every strikeout?
Well, it seems team conundrum answered the two questions I had posed after they scored sixteen runs. Will the offense continue or take a hiatus? Survey says…hiatus. Will the bullpen find its groove or implode? DeFratus says, "Implode, Ed!"
And is Howard's knee really that bad? If so, DL him.
Hopefully, the baseball gods pity us Phillies fans and grant us a series win. Please baseball gods.
A series win against the Pirates. Sorry I'm frazzled from watching this LA series.
Vin Scully said today that the Phillies bullpen is responsible for 25 losses this year. The worst total in baseball. I thought Ruben Amaro was going to fix this? Looks like his wonderboy Adams is out for the season and we lost our closer. How about some help from our farm system. Oh, it stinks, as well. Now throw in our $144 million dollar lefty Chase Utley who is on his way to losing twenty games this year, and , of course, our very spotty offense, which has actually gotten better.
To my knowledge, Vin Scully does not lie. We need desperately a new general manager that can make intelligent decisions and not panic at the switch, while chain smoking. Ruben Amaro is not the answer.
Look for a very long summer, fellow Phils fans.
Obviously, I have had a little too much alcohol. We still have our closer, and our $144 million dollar lefty is Cole Hamels. Sorry for the brain farts.
And yes, I am also really tired of Ryan Howard's head shaking.
Can the owners let this train-wreck continue? I know RAJ will not be fired before the end of this season in fact I can't recall a baseball GM who was. That being said we are now in July and there is no "run " left in this team. Meetings should be taking place over the course of the upcoming weeks (if they have not already been taking place) to develop a coherent strategy for dismantling whatever parts of this team that can be sold off for value and to identify potential trade partners and third party teams that will maximize the value of what assets will be dealt. RAJ although the nominal GM of this team cannot be left to his own devices in this decision-making process. Ownership needs to identify a consultant a la Pat Gillick or Dallas Green to step in and offer advice and present alternative courses to begin a goal oriented re-building process. If the Sixers can do it so can the Phillies.
DTD, I think, unfortunately, RAJ is here until his contract expires after 2015. And regardless of where they are in the standings, I don't think there is any intention of "dismantling whatever parts of this team that can be sold off for value". With a new TV deal about to be negotiated, the plan will likely be to get value for expiring contracts (plus maybe Papelbon's), but with the objective of fielding a contending team every year. So more of a reload than a rebuild. Also, I don't know if you're aware, but Gillick is already an advisor.
I actually did know about Gillick. Long weekend at work…
I think this 2 day break was more because he is hurt as well.
I have followed this team when "Whitey" patrolled center field at Shibe Park. Unlike many of you younger fans I have witnessed more bad seasons than good. These things run in cycles and when this team is cleansed of its "GM" and manager, the hope here is for a strong GM from outside the organization to turn this downward spiral around. Till that happens fans, hang in there.
I thought I was the only one still alive from those days.
Yes, we're in that cyclical slump which in historical terms would translate into between 10 and 35 years worth of baseball misery ahead of us.
I would hope that the fat TV contract encourages the team to spend the money on reorganization and improving their product and thereby shorten our suffering this time but that's no given in an era where maximum and immediate corporate profits so often take precedence over an organization's reinvestment in their own future. The woeful band aids applied these last few years are not a good sign of things to come.
The one thing I can say for the post-Whiz Kids team of the 50s and 60s that I can't say for our current losing team is that those old teams probably got into more bench-clearing brawls than any other club of that era. They knew they stunk and in frustration fought back the only way they could. This team is just dozing out there (with a few notable exceptions) and that's pretty hard to watch.
When Dick Allen wasn't whomping somebody (including a team mate) he bought himself a pair of glasses after he began missing the ball. If Dick doesn't need them, maybe he'll do us a favor and stick them on Ryan Howard's face.
Wbramh….. you brought memories of Frank Thomas and Richie ( I can't call him Dick) Allen 's dust up in '64 which many contend was a direct cause of the collapse.
Jobang: Yep, that was the fight I alluded to.
By my recollection while Allen never ceased to be the victim of boo-birds and racial prejudices in this town he was very much the leader of the 1964 team both on and off the field. Thomas, who was known for releasing racial epithets, was released the following day and you couldn't find a player on the team who wasn't appalled at him striking Allen on the shoulder with a bat no matter the cause. I doubt that too many players were sorry to see Frank go but unlike the released Thomas, Allen and witnesses suffered a team gag order and the rumor mill ran rampant – much of it directed against the black guy that got the white guy fired. So yeah, the off-shoot of the fight was probably a distraction for the team but I don't think it had much or anything to do with the collapse. Interestingly, the two men became friends later in life.
During the 10-game loss, Allen actually raised his game, batting .438 through the team's terrible slump. IMO, I think it was more Chico Ruiz's theft of home that started the mental collapse and exacerbated by Gene Mauch's overcompensation by running Bunning and Short on the mound every other day. A case of a very smart manager over-managing and doing a very dumb thing. Had they won the pennant that way you have to wonder what would have been left of their arms when facing the Yankees.
Previously the ownership was cheap. Least now they are spending $$$ so maybe this time it can be fixed with the right moves and probably right GM.
I'd like to ask a question about our former slugger Ryan Howard to add to what Chuck A. and Bart were saying.
What does having a bad knee have to do with the inability to see a slider or a low outside fastball out of the hand of the pitcher. Obviously the trick will work the requisite 7-8 times out of ten, that's why there are successful pitchers, but it seems to work on him nearly every time now.
IMO- Forget the knee, get the mans eyes checked, sheesh 🙂
OT – Puig has a weakness, he's not that impressive a fielder yet, but when he becomes one, watch out. Wow, a ball of fire that one.
I'm very impressed with this 22 year old rookie phenom, Yaisel Puig. 44 hits in his first month and hitting .436 for his BA. Wow! I watched him a few times earlier this month playing with the Dodgers and he appears to have a complete package; a rifle for an arm, aggressive fielder and on the basepaths, good power and makes consistent contact in hitting.
His physical built , aggressive cat-like movements and baseball instincts reminds me of Jackie Robinson. I'm not saying he will have the greatness of a Robinson but he may become baseball's newest exciting star (and great for the sport) if he can counteract attempted adjustments by opposing pitchers.
Ryan Howard obviously is frustrated and increasingly anxious to do better with his at-bats. He knows the pitchers are taking advantage of his anxiety and impatience by overswinging at pitches out of the strike zone. A hitting slump is like that and can hurt the hitter's confidence as it continues until the hitter sees the "light" at the end of tunnel. As Charlie Manuel told the reporters, Howard's mental state is in need of relief and maybe his sore knee as well. I would not be surprised to see Howard go on the DL.
My concern is his seemingly lack of power as his usual numbers in run production are way down. I think he is not getting the power leverage from his legs when following through with his swing because of his knee problem.
My best guess is that his sore knee is the result of his previous injury with his ankle last season. I read recently that Howard admitted his problem with the knee started in Spring training this year and has become more of an issue now.
So it may help Howard to take time off (the aforementioned DL) to rest his knee and clear his mind of frustration with his hitting slump.
He finished June with an 0 for 20 run, but even so hit .284/.371/.511 (.883 OPS) in the month. I think we would take months like that every time.
Howard's big problems are obvious. !) his pitch recognition skills are non-existent. 2) He's hurt.
1) cannot be fixed. Usually players get better with that through experience. Howard has not
It ties into 2) because he could cover up for that defihathatciency by driving mistake fasballs. He is having trouble with that because of his physical condition. Thus he either grounds out or fouls off hittable pitches,getting himself down in the count where he proceeds to get himself out ( because of lack of pitch recognition skills)
I turn the channel when Howard is at bat. It's embarrassing.
Again, if he's embarassing half the time, and tears it up the other half and ends up with a month like June, I'll gladly take that, especially if you limit his exposure to lefties.
Yeah, well…his last K yesterday….where he had ZERO discipline…was against a righty. I get your argument but some of these at-bats are downright UGLY.
Puig is good but two of those hits yesterday were errors by M. Young.
And the third a bloop behind 1st base.
Can things get any worse for Cole Hamels? Now the team decides to push back his start to clear his head. This is the last thing Cole Hamels needs in this town. He didn't ask for it and apparently wasn't happy about it but this feeds the angry mob out to get Hamels this season and I don't think they did him any favors. Could something bigger be afoot here? It's unfair to put the blame on this horrid season on Ryan Howard and Cole Hamels and these mental days are implying that they are to blame IMO. If they don't feel Cole Hamels can pitch on this team, then trade him now. This team is pathetic.
I think all that the "mental days" imply is that these guys have been pressing and trying to do too much and not having much success, and that a couple of days away from the action might help to get their heads straight.
Also, now would be the worst possible time to trade Hamels. There is no reason to think he won't get back to his excellent 2011-12 levels, so why trade him when his value is at an all-time low?
Didn't watch the game yesterday because I was busy, but when I checked the score on my phone and saw it was 4-0 in the 7th, I just assumed Kershaw was pitching, not Barney Fife. LOL they lose 3/4 to the Dodgers and didn't even face Kershaw. What a disgrace.
"-It's nice to see Ben Revere hitting. His average is up to .289, so if you ripped on the guy, time to apologize" – Not a chance. His defense is still sub par and his noodle arm is beyond a joke. He also makes more base running mistakes than a speed guy should be making. Rube must have caught the Eagles disease of trying to be smarter than everyone else and getting an "under the radar" guy instead of a proven MLB CF.
I don't want to hear about Howard's knee/leg issues. If he's hurt, put him on the damn DL. Anyway, how is that relevant when he has zero pitch recognition or plate discipline? Just keep throwing him breaking balls and mix in an occasional high fastball (which he can no longer catch) and he'll never get a hit. I'd include any player in the organiztion to get a team to take him and his millstone contract.
Is pushing Cole's start back a couple days going to help this team score some runs for him?
Speaking of Charlie's belated moves with Ryan Howard can anybody explain to me why Charlie didn't put in a pinch rummer for Delmon Young in the 8th inning of Saturday's game?
They desperately needed to push one run across the plate just to stay in the game and Nix's follow-up double left Young at 3rd (where he was eventually stranded).
Seemed like a faster runner would have scored on that extra-base hit and that Charlie was more concerned about having Young available at the plate in a non-existent 12th inning than tying it by the 9th.
Maybe I missed something – or maybe they have no faster runner on the bench – a frightening thought.
Some posters on here will defend Howard even if he kills someone.
I'll promise not to defend him if that happens, if you concede that he had a good month. 😉
if we can push Cole hamels back a few starts, why can't we drop Howard in the lineup??
Hamels will miss 1 start, and Howard got a couple of days off.
We can drop Howard, I don't really care either way, because whether he hits 4th or 6th I don't think it makes a big difference in how many runs they'll score.
Now what will help is keeping him out vs. lefties, and they've done that quite a bit, although they could do more.
They've faced 18 LH starters, and he has sat for 10 of those 18. Or to put it another way, he has sat 12 games, and 10 of those 12 happened to be vs. LH starters.
I'm just saying if they can agree to push Cole back why can't they agree to drop Howard…
The equivalent of giving Hamels some days off is to give Howard some days off, which they did.
I would say he had a good month if he was making 10 million a year instead of 25 million. The average was good, but 3 home runs in June is pretty bad. Strikeouts are still way up and walks are almost non existent. We'll have to agree to disagree!
@Bruce, I'm talking overall hitting. He walked 11.4% of the time in June for a .371 OBP to go with .511 slugging. .882 OPS, which is the same as in 2008. I really don't care whether he produces by hitting home runs, or doubles, or by getting on base for those behind him.
In any case, still not the $20 million he's being paid this year (let alone the $25 million he will get starting next year), but to me, that's neither here nor there — he doesn't need to be defended for being offered that contract.
Hamels isn't missing a start. He will still have 3 starts before the All Star break.


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Few minority candidates pull nominating papers to run in newly configured PUSD voting districts; five candidates line up to take Holden's District 3 council seat
By André Coleman 11/21/2012
In the end, former longtime Pasadena Unified School District administrator and onetime Board of Education member Bill Bibbiani may have been right.
With less than two weeks left for candidates to pull nominating papers to fill four school board seats in the recently districted PUSD, a move approved by voters in June aimed at increasing democratic opportunities for minorities with children attending school in PUSD, only one minority candidate has pulled the necessary papers to run in the March 5 municipal elections.
Along with four school board seats, voters in March will also be asked to decide three City Council seats — District 3, soon to be vacated by longtime Councilman Chris Holden, who was elected to the state Assembly on Nov. 6; District 5, also represented by a longtime incumbent, Victor Gordo; and District 7, presently occupied by Councilman Terry Tornek.
Five candidates so far have pulled papers for the council seat Holden occupied for nearly 25 years, and one candidate appears prepared to begin the campaign process against Gordo. No one has turned out yet to challenge Tornek, who himself has pulled papers for a second term.
Candidates have until Dec. 7 to pull papers to run for both the council and the Board of Education.
Back in May, Bibbiani, who worked as an administrator for the district for more than 30 years before being elected to the first of two terms in 2000, was the only person to publicly oppose Measure A, a ballot initiative designed to increase minority inclusion in elections on the Board of Education and stave off potential lawsuits that might be filed under the California Voting Rights Act of 2001.
"I'm not surprised" that few others but incumbents have pulled papers, Bibbiani said.
Among those who have filed to run are incumbents Kim Kenne in the new District 1, Elizabeth Pomeroy in District 5 and Scott Phelps in District 7.
In District 3, Tyrone Hampton, a general contractor, has pulled papers to run. Under the new configuration, there is no incumbent in that district. Hampton is African American. Kenne, Phelps and Pomeroy are white. Because Kenne and fellow Board member Ramon Miramontes live in the same district, and candidates are required to live in the districts they seek to represent, Kenne would have had to face off against Miramontes, elected in 2008. However, Miramontes told the Weekly that he is not running for a second four-year term.
Kenne, who was in office two years before the district was created by a special task force and approved by voters, could have remained in her seat for two years before facing re-election, but decided to run for a full four-year term.
In Bibbiani's opinion, the new districts have not done what they were supposed to do to attract minority candidates to run. In fact, Bibbiani considers the new districts a formula for disaster when it comes to making elected school officials more efficient and accountable.
"My fear in the long term, and this is not a criticism of the superintendent, within a few years, you will end up with the superintendent and the seven dwarves, because none of the board members will have a district-wide base of support, because they only have to please small groups of people," Bibbiani said, pointing out that the former election system was at-large, with all candidates running district-wide for numbered board seats.
"It is not a shot at [PUSD Superintendent] Jon Gundry," Bibbiani said of his quip. "The powers of the board will be diminished, and the powers of the superintendent will be increased."
Ironically, with Miramontes, the board's only Latino member, not running, the Board of Education could end up without Latino representation, despite having a Latino student population of roughly 60 percent.
Miramontes cited the birth of his twin sons last summer among his reasons for not running for a second term.
"The twins sealed the deal," Miramontes said. "There is nothing wrong with one tour of duty. I shook things up, and I was not afraid of the system. It takes a lot out of you when you refuse to go the Pasadena Way. It is still difficult for minorities to run. I disagree with the maps, but not neighborhood districts.
"They [task force members] thought it was better to create a minority majority in the districts," he added. "That is not how it is supposed to be. All groups should have a major voice in every district. Elected officials should sometimes have a contrarian role with city staff."
A board-appointed districting task force spent nearly six months splitting PUSD — which includes Pasadena, Altadena and Sierra Madre — into seven separate districts of about 29,000 residents each. African Americans and Latinos make up the majority of the population in at least three districts, including District 1, where Kenne and Miramontes live.
Miramontes, Kenne and Phelps were usually allies against the board majority of Board President Renatta Cooper and Board members Ed Honowitz, Tom Selinske and Pomeroy. Miramontes' exit from the board could shift the board's balance of power away from what has been described as a dysfunctional dynamic in which actual progress was often stymied by at times bitter infighting among board members.
One such incident last year involved Phelps, who was censured for making comments in public which led to one candidate dropping out of the race last year for the superintendent's seat. That action against Phelps, however, didn't end the finger-pointing among board members, with the Miramontes-led board clique calling for a censure of Cooper for an alleged violation of the Brown Act, the state's open meeting law.
"I think the [district] maps needs to be circulated," Cooper said when asked to speculate on why so few people seem to be interested in running. "We are going to have to do some voter education to get some people interested in the school board who have never run before. I am hoping that now that the national election is over there will be more attention given to the local elections."
In the race for City Council, five possible candidates have pulled the necessary papers to begin campaigning for District 3, which includes portions of Northwest Pasadena and mid-city, north of Colorado Boulevard.
Those people include: Businessman Ishmael Trone; former NAACP President John L. Kennedy; Los Angeles litigation attorney William Pallares; Susana Porras, a part-time teacher; and Dentis Fowlkes, an information technology (IT) technician.
If none of the council candidates receive 50 plus one percent of the vote in the March election, the top two vote getters will square off in a runoff election on April 16.
Trone said he is running "based on a balanced perspective I have gained through my work in Pasadena over the past 25 years in Pasadena as a businessman and civic leader. From my experiences, I have the passion vision, integrity and inclusionary thought process to further the growth of District 3."
William Pallares — a Los Angeles litigation attorney — told the Weekly he was concerned about crime in the district, and that although he had pulled papers, he was still only considering running.
"I want to try and help out District 3 and improve the quality of life in the neighborhood," Pallares said. "We are seeing more criminal activities, and I want to bring more attention to economic development."
Kennedy said he originally planned to run 25 years ago against Holden but decided against it. Last year, people in the district began asking him to run for the seat.
"Due to my background in city government, public works and working for the former [assistant] city attorney, Nicholas Rodriguez, I have skill sets that would be helpful addressing some of the serious issues impacting Pasadena from a policy standpoint."
Fowlkes could not be contacted, and Porras did not return a phone call seeking comment for this story.
Perhaps the biggest battle could occur in District 5 between Gordo, first elected in 2000, and Pasadena Marathon organizer Israel Estrada.
Estrada did not return several phone calls left at the Pasadena Marathon headquarters. He also did not return a number of emails seeking comment.
"I welcome opposition from anyone in the district who has lived here and has been working and will work to improve things," Gordo told the Weekly.
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Welsh: Yes, I just started my undergrad degree at Cornell and when I bought this new hard drive I was plugging it into the box that went into my dorm room there at Cornell University. It was a 200 megabyte hard drive that cost me $550, so that kind of tells you in computer years how long ago that was, right?
Dougherty: So, how did the Linux Documentation Project evolve?
Welsh: This was basically the result of myself and Lars Wirzenius and Michael K. Johnson -- I guess Michael's now at Redhat and I don't know exactly what Lars is doing these days -- getting together and saying we wanted to produce printed documentation for Linux, so we wanted to write manuals. Michael was going to work on a kernel hackers guide and Lars was going to do a systems administration guide and I was going to do the installation guide. We got together and hashed out our ideas and started writing some documentation and putting this stuff up online. It was just written in LaTeX so the only way you could view it was to actually print it out or to use Ghostview or something like that. It wasn't extremely practical, but this did pre-date the Web. After maybe about a year or so, this evolved into a larger project where we were actually taking a lot of the documentation that people were writing anyway -- Read Me's and FAQ's and things like that -- and helping to organize and distribute that. Again, this was all before the Web, so mailing lists and Usenet newsgroups and things like that were the main ways that we got the information out there.
Dougherty: Did Linus produce any documentation himself?
Welsh: He had a pretty weak Readme file that went along with the kernel source tree, but that was really about it.
Dougherty: So, in terms of raw materials, you didn't have much to work with?
Welsh: No, no. I mean when I started writing documentation, there was some pretty inconsistent documentation out there already, some Read Me's and FAQ's. One of the most famous early documents was somebody produced a whole directory listing of every file on a working Linux system. He said, "Well, I finally got Linux to work, so here's the listing of where every file is on the system," and it printed out to 40 pages of listings of just where the files were. So, that was kind of interesting, but it's not extremely helpful to somebody. We got together and said, "Well, we're going to write some new documentation and talk about how to actually get a system working from scratch."
Dougherty: So, what time period was that?
Welsh: This must have been summer of '92 to summer of '93. That academic year for me was when all this really started happening.
Dougherty: And, eventually you built a tool setup for producing the documentation?
Welsh: Right. So much later -- well not much, you know, in Linux years it was a year or so later, but it seemed like a long time. It was becoming frustrating to develop Linux documentation in LaTeX and HTML was just kind of coming out. Nobody wanted to write in HTML. There was a bunch of people who wanted to write groff or something like that. It was becoming problematic. I found a suite of tools that let you write documents in a simplified SGML format and convert that to groff. It gave you plain ASCII and HTML as well as LaTeX. The set of tools was already out there and I just took those packages and repackaged them and documented them and added some features and nice front-ends so that it was very easy to write your document in this format and then just run one script. It would give you plain ASCII and HTML and Postscript, -- now people who wanted to print it out could get postscript and people who wanted to view it on the Web could use HTML. But, by far the most important format back then was plain ASCII. I ended up calling these tools LinuxDocSGML because it was SGML and it was for the Linux Documentation Project. And, I guess about a year later some people took that project and renamed it and repackaged it again and called it SGML Tools and that's still a working project.
Dougherty: Right. Although on the site, it says it's not current.
Welsh: Is that right?
Dougherty: Yeah.
Welsh: So, maybe it's fallen by the wayside a little bit.
Dougherty: So, LinuxDoc.Org, when did that get launched?
Welsh: I don't remember exactly when that domain name started getting used. I think it was after I had stopped working on it. The original Linux Documentation Web site was written by myself and I think it was one of the first Linux Web sites; it may have been the first Linux Web site and that was hanging off of sunsite.unc.edu which is now called MetaLab.
I just said "Hey, let's put all this HTML documentation we have as well as links to everything Linux related on this one big Web page." It was just one giant Web page with links to everything on it. That was the first Linux Web site and it was very popular. The number of hits that we were getting was pretty significant. There are still many, many, many links out there on the Web pointing to that original page. After I stopped working on these things so much, the LinuxDoc.Org domain name was pointed to that Web site and over the course of the years the maintainership of that has changed hands a couple of times.
Dougherty: So, you're no longer active in the Linux Documentation Project?
Welsh: No, after a few years at Cornell I just became too busy. I got involved doing research work there and also the book project with O'Reilly, that kind of took a lot of my effort. It seemed that a number of people, such as Greg Hankins, who was at Georgia Tech at the time, had taken on a lot of the roles that I was originally playing in that field and were doing an amazing job at it; people were filling the gap that I'd left behind.
Dougherty: So, is it on its third generation?
Welsh: Maybe third or fourth, I don't know. It has a life of its own and I have to say I don't know most of the people involved right now, but the Linux Documentation Web site has a whole new look. The content is fundamentally the same as what we originally had.
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Dougherty: When did the Linux How-to's emerge? Is that something that you were involved with?
Welsh: Yeah, I started the How-to project along with Ian Jackson. Ian Jackson was one of the original Linux documentation guys and this emerged out of our frustration with the original Linux FAQ. The FAQ was this enormous document that was posted in seven separate sections to Usenet once a month. It was just unbelievably baroque and complicated. We decided to just throw it in the trash can and start from scratch with a new FAQ that was just really frequently asked questions, not everything about Linux, right? Frequently asked questions only. We'd start writing a new series of tutorial-oriented separate documents about Linux called How-to's; Ian was the one who actually recommended the name How-to for that. So I wrote the installation How-to and the X Window How-to and the Network How-to. Along with the Linuxdoc-SGML tool suite, I put those out there to people and said "Hey, here's this new thing, there's How-to's and here's the tools that you use to write them. If you want to write a How-to, here's how to do it and e-mail it to me and I'll format it and post it once a month to the Web and to the Newsgroups." And, that's how it got started. It was kind of a fun thing because now there's hundreds of How-to's.
Dougherty: Right. It's on one hand a very obvious idea, but it still looks to me fairly. Others haven't necessarily picked it up -- other projects. It is that it is a format that almost anyone can contribute something to. When you say, "I'm going to write an administrator's guide" it kind of implies a book with chapters and all that.
Welsh: Right.
Dougherty: And this is, "I solved this problem, let me document it for others and submit it to the How-to's."
Welsh: That's totally the idea, that it's completely collaborative in the sense that you don't need to collaborate with another person to write a How-to. That's the reason that it seems to work. People can just go off on their own and write a document about getting the Croatian keyboard mapping to work under Linux. We have How-to's like that. If you write that and you send it out there, it kind of takes on a life of its own. Multiple people might contribute and collaborate on one How-to, but more often than not, it's somebody doing their own -- scratching their personal itch to put it in Raymond-esque terms, right?
Dougherty: So, in many respects, people point to the Linux Documentation Project as at least one of the better models out there for trying to organize information that's needed for new users. But, I know from talking to you it's not necessarily a solved problem and there are a lot of interesting things that need to happen, not just for LDP but really any of the open-source documentation projects. Can you talk a little bit about some of those?
Welsh: What's happening now is that there are just so many sites that you can go to to find Linux information that the real problem is just navigating all that information. Originally, if you wanted to learn something about Linux, it was pretty straightforward. If there wasn't a How-to about it, then nobody knew how to do it. I mean it was easy to go to this one site and to find the How-to's and to do that, so now there's this proliferation of Web sites. The real challenge is to create the Linux portal. Several people are interested in getting involved in that space. How do I distill out this information and provide a way of searching for what I want and navigating to the information that I'm looking for. That's the biggest remaining problem with documentation. We've got lots of content out there, lots of very good content, some bad content. How do we make people aware that that content even exists?
Dougherty: OK. What I see is that these documents become living documents. They might pass through the hands of several different authors over the life span, just as here at O'Reilly we have books that go out of date. There's documentation that goes out of date and it's not always clear from an open-source perspective, how can I go about changing it or improving it or updating it.
Welsh: It's pretty informal. The documents are effectively in electronic form and the How-to's especially are short enough that it's pretty easy for it to change hands? An entire book is a little bit harder to do that with. I had problems getting my original Linux book, the "Linux Installation and Getting Started Guide," into the hands of some people that could actually take care of it. So, getting access to writers that know what to do with a particular document is a lot easier when it's shorter, right? And, so that's one of the ways that works in the How-to's projects is that when somebody says that I'm not maintaining the How-to anymore, they find somebody to do it and it's usually somebody who has made some contribution to that on the site.
Dougherty: OK. Well let's -- you've moved on. You went from Cornell to Berkeley. Let's talk a little bit about some of the work you're doing there. You told me you were working with Java and Linux, which is sometimes a problem putting those two together, isn't it?
Welsh: Yeah, I've said that this is like chocolate and cheese, I mean, you really like Java and you really like Linux, but the two don't always go together. One of the problems is that there's a number of competing Java implementations for Linux and it's not helped out by the various kind of commercial interests that the parties involved have. It's clear that there is enough interest in having Java on Linux that numerous people are going to be providing that solution. So, Sun and IBM and separately the Blackdown porting team as well as the Cygnus Redhat GCJ project and Kaffe and I could go on and on with the number of people out there trying to do Java on Linux.
We're interested in building really high performance workstation cluster applications in Java. We're taking what is called Beowulf, which is just a bunch of PCs in a cluster all running Linux. All of the applications are written in Java and there's a lot of reasons we're doing that. I could go into detail but it's not really all that interesting. The main thing is that we think that Java is a great programming environment for doing certain things that are very difficult to do in C and C++. So, if you're going to write your applications in Java, and plenty of people are doing that anyway, and you want to get high performance, what are the problems that you have to solve with that? That's where my own personal research is going.
Dougherty: OK. Well, thank you, Matt, for coming in here and I appreciate your spending time with us today.
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#countingbaseballs Giveaway Contest 1
As you may have noticed, for over a week or so now, I have been blogging every day. The purpose was to increase my readership during the offseason as we head towards opening day, get myself back into the habit of blogging, and count down the days one blog at a time.
In order to reward you for reading, I've decided to give away a MLB prize each week. Every Monday, I will post a contest for new item. Then, a winner will be chosen on Sunday, a week later.
So let's begin by showing you what is being given away in the #countingbaseballs giveaway for this week. It's…
A Matt Wieters Baltimore Orioles name and number official Majestic shirt. Retail value $22. Brand new. With tags.
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Since I'm extra nice, the winner may choose a size MEDIUM or LARGE. If you're on the bigger side, I'm sorry – I'll try and have larger shirts in the future. But you could always re-gift if you win. Anyhow, this shirt is sure to please and Orioles fan, or ballhawk that will see the Orioles at a game in 2012. Oh, and I'll even pay the postage.
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You can enter up to seven times per week simply by leaving a comment. Non-pertinent, spam, or inappropriate comments will not be accepted. If you comment multiple times on the same blog entry, it still counts as one entry. For example, if you commented on three different blog posts from this week, you'd have three entries.
2) Retweet (RT) my posts on Twitter
You can find me on twitter under 333greystreet. Simply retweet my daily posts with a #countingbaseballs in your RT each day and I'll count that as an entry. My blog is connected to my twitter so that I automatically tweet once I post a new entry. Each day, I'll search #countingbaseballs to see who's retweeted me and enter those users into a hat along with the commenters.
At the end of the week on Sunday, I'll have Olivia, Amy or I will choose a name from a hat and announce the winner. Maybe we'll do it on youtube. The maximum number of entries per week is 14 if you leave comments and retweet.
Anyhow, I thought this would be a cool idea to give away some of my extra MLB Stuff.
I'll end this post with some thoughts about Matt Wieters.
Where does he rank for you among the best catchers in the American League? Who is better than him? Mike Napoli? Carlos Santana? Joe Mauer? Alex Avila? I'll rank him at 2nd. I like Carlos Santana best, but that's probably because he plays for my second favorite team and I snagged a game HR ball from him in 2009.
Long suffering Pittsburgh Pirates fans are all too familiar with Matt Wieters. In 2007, the Pirates, led by David Littlefield, passed on Matt Wieters in order to select Daniel Moskos. Outrage ensued at the Pirates' cheapness and on June 30th 2007, Bob Walk bobblehead night, fans orchestrated a walk out. Fans wore green to the game to signify owner Bob Nutting's greed and then walked out at a pre-determined time. I was at the game, but I can't exactly remember when it happened. The game was virtually a sell out, and although a few thousand people left, it wasn't too noticeable in the grand scheme of things.
Wieters broke into the league in 2009 and has hit 42 home runs and has been an All Star. Daniel Moskos finally was promoted to the Major Leagues in 2011 and although he posted a 2.96 ERA in 24 innings. His H/9 (10.9) and WHIP (1.56) were high. In the Minors, he has a career 4.41 ERA, including a 5.46 ERA in 39 games at the AAA level. So, he really hasn't proven in the minors that he'll have a successful big league career yet.
And that catching position, well, the Pirates really REALLY needed Matt Wieters because rather than penciling his name in at catcher every day, over the last three years we've had to deal with Wyatt Toregas, Matt Pagnozzi, Eric Fryer, Dusty Brown, Jason Jaramillo, Chris Snyder, Ryan Doumit, Michael McKenry, Erik Kratz and Robinzon Diaz (who we traded Jose Bautista to get!)
God help us Pirates fans.
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Hey as a Rays fan i get to see Wieters play more then i want too, needless to say he's kind of a Ray killer.
I like that last paragraph! Haha, Dusty Brown was a joke. I haven't looked at a roster lately is he still even with the Bucs?
Nice! Always enjoy your blog
I've always liked Mat Wieters, although I'm worried he won't live up to his potential. I obviously think Joe Mauer is better when healthy..I think Carlos Santana has the ability to be the best but not quite yet. I'd agree he's second although Alex Avila is close to him..I think in a year or 2 he'd probably be the 4th best catcher.
Keep up the posts Erik. A great contest and of course I wouldn't mind a Wieters jersey. As a Pirates fan, I would love to have a t-shirt jersey of the man we should have drafted in his class.
I would like to have this jersey. Keep up with a workout and hit your goal.
Hi..first comment on your blog from my part…not because of this jersey. I hope you'll have some Nationals prize one day.🙂 You're doing a great job. Keep it up.
Thanks for the kind words. I think I do have some Nationals stuff I could part with in the coming weeks.
I want that shirt!😉
Rollin for the jersey Jabs.
Nice shirt!!!!!! I love it!!!!!!!!
Awesome jersey! Would be cool to win.
Always nice to check your blog and see an update, so close to the season now!
Are you going to Ballhawk Fest next year? If so, I look forward to meeting you!
PS- If Ballhawk Fest is in Baltimore again this year, I won't be prepaired. I don't have any O's gear.


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Gego (born Gertrude Goldschmidt, but known professionally as "Gego") demonstrates a singular approach to the field of geometric abstraction. Stating that her major concern was "transparency," she created a body of work consisting of linear elements that float in space, whether drawn on the page or realized in three-dimensional form with wire. In virtually every case, the viewer has the ability to see both in and through her compositions, discerning the spaces between the lines, where each element seems to breathe in an open environment. Earlier in her career she worked largely with ink and paper, but later, Gego moved on to create "drawings without paper"—wire and metal constructivist compositions that were linear but had volume. In this untitled work from 1966, Gego weaves both a warp and a weft. The left-to-right movement of vertical lines creates a subtle rhythm and pattern, but the vertically oriented middle ground is disrupted by other elements. The work is clearly divided into four quadrants by its horizontal and vertical axes, and a solid, dark, arrow-shaped marker pulsates in the foreground and reinforces the upward thrust of the composition. The sequence of lines acts as a figure, with the great expanse of background visible through the linear elements.
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"When life gives you lemons -- make limoncello," says my friend in Italy, where I learned to enjoy the Italian custom of sipping this digestif after dinner. The liqueur is available in many American liquor stores, but it's fun to make your own, like the Italians do.
Best stored in the freezer, Limoncello can be served straight up in a tiny chilled glass, or as a palate-cleanser during or after a multicourse meal. For a special dessert, blend limoncello with ice cream. Begin the simple process of making Limoncello now for holiday gifts; you'll find attractive bottles and corks in gourmet and import shops.
2 cups 100-proof vodka
Zest of 5 lemons, preferably organic
2 cups water
1 ½ cups sugar
Combine the vodka and lemon zest in a 1-quart covered glass jar; let stand at room temperature for 3 days.
Make a simple syrup by heating the water and sugar in a medium saucepan over medium heat; stir until the sugar dissolves. Remove from the heat and bring to room temperature.
Stir the syrup into the jar containing the vodka. Pour the mixture through a fine mesh sieve; discard the lemon zest.
Pour the Limoncello into one or more clean glass bottles and cap tightly. Store in the refrigerator or freezer.
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Kishi is doing his own manga and he doesn't give a shit about this.
Sorry but this is pretty lame.
For all you people consistently whinging, *****ing about new chapters and continuously doing it each week, maybe you guys should consider waiting till 3 or 4 chapters are out instead of being impatient.
Act your age and not your shoe size. I feel Kishi is already doing his best to entertain the millions of fan's through his story telling, show some appreciation.
Like other people have already stated for a non Uchiha it takes an incredible amount of chakra for Kakashi to use the Sharingan. So even if he did know he had the MS he couldn't use it without passing out and he was smart enough to not use it. (I for one believe that he did not know he had the MS and while training during the timeskip he realized it)
Also for me it cleared up a pretty big plothole as to how Kakashi got his MS obviously he didn't kill his best friend during the timeskip that would have had to been Guy since Rin was dead and he assumed Obito was as well. And as we all know that was the requirement for the MS.
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Originally Posted by alexu9696
This is insulting me Kakashi had MS this young and he used it only in Naruto part 2 ?
Why didnt Kakashi used MS in Naruto part 1 ?
And dont tell me because he had not enugh chakra that is just a BS to let Kishi go away with this !
Its like Naruto part 1 was another manga and NOT Naruto !
I said it once and ill say it again, if he made izuna we wont be even having this convo.
Anyway, looks like kahashi knew he couldnt use due to the shear stamina issue.
Its okay becasue we always wanted to know how kahashi knew so much about the MS. Now we do, thats all.
I still shell shock from all this tobi is obito rubbish, and how he used hasihrama's powers like that is bs. U know what we need, we need hasihrama to come back and kick some serious butt and show them hows its done.
Or maybe because he didn't need to use it in part 1? Do you really think he would've been able to use it against Zabuza, with his super speed, when it takes Kakashi like 3 episodes to prepare it. Maybe Orochimaru, but again that was too quick. And when you think about it, he never really fought that many people in part 1, so tell me when or why he wouldve used it? plus he passes out just for using the regular sharingan too much.
You may as well be asking why he didn`t use it against Kakazu or when they first fight Tobi
And it was new in part 2, because he`s never used it before.
And You guys clearly dont know anything about storytelling, what would MS have to do with anything what happens in part 1, that would just confuse people, it`s not even really relevant til the end of part 1, that`s why Kakashi gave it to Kakashi after Kakashi Gaiden.
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Kakashi passed out when he activated his ms because he is not of uchiha blood plus obito had senju dna attatched to his body ..kakashi prob learned to active it probably activated it later on thru tanning
I was going to say it was possible that he didn't know that he himself had it, but that seems unlikely seeing as he knew about it when Itachi used it.
Check to see what he said when he first used it vs Diedara, I THINK he said something along the lines of "I found something, I want to try a new technique" meaning that he didn't know that he had it before, but he knew about it...
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Well as for me I have had both on my coupe ,and I can say the disk brake set up is much better , it stops better and less work to maintain and I think they look better . But they both worked . So it's up to what you like and can afford .
I apologize for the delay in answering. I will try to keep it short and simple.
Think how it would be if there were no springs but solid bars. No lift, no dive, no squat. But we must compromise.
If you ever have the opportunity to see pictures of a Fox or SN-95 Mustang doing a maximum effort stop (in lots of magazines) and then the new BMW video ad showing the Beemer stopping..... you will see that the Mustang pitches nose down 3-4 inches and the rear rises 3-4 inches and the Beemer stays almost level to maybe an inch.
Front and rear geometry are fixed by design, and by nature are a compromise of the lift and dive (squat) by their design. What works very well for drag launches is poor for stopping ability, etc.
When a front end nose dives the weight of the vehicle is being removed from the wheels on each end. Actually if the front end did not dive, the center of gravity would stay higher and there would be more downforce on the front tires. If during a stop the front springs were suddenly solid... there would be more downforce on the tires.
When the rear squats on launch, the weight bias is being removed from the rear wheels. Either way a stiffer spring or better geometry would improve the traction.
Suprisingly shorter ladder bars are are good for the rear. They lift the rear on launch, planting the rear tires, and when stopping, they are short enough to try to "pull" the rear of the vehicle downward when braking. But ladder bars are not the best for either situation and have other handling deficiencies.
When the front end drops and the rear rises during a stop, the rear tires are especially unloaded and traction suffers. Even with sticky rubber there is not enough weight on the contact patch to maintain reasonable traction.
Most stopping ability is determined by the tires themselves, by contact patch size and rubber compound. Skinny front runners are poor stoppers. If you have ever driven a drag race car on the street you could appreciate the deficiencies of the suspension settings.
Me? I drive a 5 series Beemer every day.
I have had very good service with Wagner products.
If available I prefer the ThermoQuiet series.
Auto Zone sells a high performance brand that seems to work well for many people. Be advised that rotor material varies and so does the pad material... Not every pad is compatible with every rotor. I have seen new rotors installed with new pads and in 8,000 easy miles both were totally ruined.
So many people buy the cheapest pads they can get, insisting that lifetime guarantee is the important thing.. Cheapo NAPA or AZ pads are false economy. Buy good stuff that will STOP.
You can't imagine how many people I have seen convert to disk brakes and then buy $ 8 pads.... and later complain about increased pedal pressure and limited stopping ability.....they run around in circles chasing master cylinders, rubber brake lines, bleeding brakes. mmmmmm.
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do not get rear discs. you if its a street car then no you dont need it. if its for drag racing then maybe. rear discs take away power at the wheels. bottem line there not worth the 1000 dollars that it would cast.
Hi. Lots of opinions on this topic. Me, I would go to a deserted stretch of road, go about 30 mph, slam on the brakes and see if I could lock up all 4 tires. If all 4 tires don't lockup you don't have enough brakes. IMHO brakes and tires go hand in hand. Put some skinny bias plys on and see how easy the brakes lockup compared to a set of 60 series radials. It's my understanding that you get the shortest stopping distance by keeping the tires on the verge of lockup. Sooo if you can't lockup the tires then you don't know what the tires are capable of in terms of stopping power. If you can lockup all 4 tires then ( in my mind anyway) you've got enough brakes unless you upgrade the tires to the point where they overcome the brakes.
I've been trying to get the rear drum brakes ( 85 Monte Carlo rearend ) to lockup on my 38 Ford PU. The truck stops pretty good but I know it can be made better so that's something to work on this winter.
I have 255/15 70r tires on the back of the truck. My question is, does the large size make it harder to lockup the rear tire? It would seem like it would because of the slower drum rpm ( large dia tire ) which exposes less drum/shoe contact surface per road foot than a smaller dia tire. The tire also has more rotating mass. Also the contact patch of the bigger tire is naturally greater which makes it harder for the brakes to overcome the tire.
Well that's enough rambling for now.
There are several people on another board I frequent (Moparts), including a couple of autocrossers, who have used and recommend the Praise Dyno brake shoes. You might do a search over there for more info.
As for your problem I think I have a solution. Try using rear wheel cylinders from a manual brake S10 of the same year. They came with larger wheel cylinders and will give you some more rear brakes.
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I've been trying to get the rear drum brakes ( 85 Monte Carlo rearend ) to lockup on my 38 Ford PU. The truck stops pretty good but I know it can be made better so that's something to work on this winter.
Unless you like driving backwards at high speed, I would recommend abandoning this pursuit....Particularly since A/G GM rear brakes get really grabby in the wet....
QUOTE--"Unless you like driving backwards at high speed, I would recommend abandoning this pursuit....Particularly since A/G GM rear brakes get really grabby in the wet...."
I'd never try to lock them up going more than 30 mph. But I can't even lock them up going 5 mph on the grass in my backyard. That's not right. I've got the proportioning valve ( Speedway.. on the rear brake line ) wide open. My goal is to be able to lock the rears up at 30 mph and then I can start closing the proportioning valve down until they barely squeal. This should give me about the shortest stopping distance with the setup I have.
One possible problem I might have is the master cyl is a disc/disc and I have a disc/drum. I don't know if the internals are different than a disc/drum. Guess I'll have to call one of the brake vendors and ask the tech dept
The 85 Monte rear cylinders are 3/4" bore. They might be too small for you. If you want more rear brake, try swapping in some 7/8" cylinders listed for a manual brake 84 S10. They are the same clip-in style, and should give about 25% more braking back there.
That is, if you haven't already done this
Yesgo, Triaged suggested the same thing, so I guess I'll have to go pick a pair up. It would be nice if that's all that's needed.
IIRC the larger (7/8") wheel cylinders were about $5 each for new ones. When you have it apart you might as well spend another $12 and put new shoes on it.
I used them to balance out the 12" discs I put in up front and they worked great even with the stock prop valve.
As for master cylinders there is no difference between disc/drum and disc/disc except maybe bore and the size of the reservoirs.
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I picked up on your statement above and I want to make sure I understand it correctly, I was struggling with my rear brakes and the proportioning valve until I discovered that the adjusting knob should be turned the opposite of what I thought. It should be screwed in (clockwise) all the way to give you maximum pressure to the rear lines and brakes. It should be backed out all the way open to REDUCE the rear brake pressure. You stated that you have the valve "wide open". If it is the same type of valve I have then this would give you minimal brakes in the rear. We talked about this at this link too with a picture of the valve I have:
proportioning valve
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