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The House of Quark (episode)
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|"The House of Quark"
|DS9, Episode 3x03
Production number: 40513-449
First aired: 10 October 1994
|48th of 173 produced in DS9
|48th of 173 released in DS9
|332nd of 728 released in all
| Teleplay By
Ronald D. Moore
Story By
Tom Benko
Directed By
Les Landau
|Unknown (2371)
|Arc: Quark and Grilka (1 of 2)
After Quark lies about killing a Klingon in his bar, the dead man's widow abducts Quark to the Klingon homeworld to marry him.
Quark and Rom are gloomily looking over the practically deserted bar. With the bellicose threats from the Dominion, many families and officers have departed the station, and Quark's business has nose-dived. One of his few customers, a drunken Klingon, yells for another bloodwine. Quark takes out his frustration on the Klingon, demanding that he either pay his tab or get out. Enraged, the Klingon draws a dagger and attacks Quark, but stumbles and falls onto his own knife, killing himself.
Act OneEdit
While Bashir examines the corpse, Quark excitedly notes a huge crowd gathered outside the bar, curious to hear the details of what happened. Hoping to lure back customers, Quark plans to claim to have killed the Klingon in self-defense. Rom finds the idea ludicrous, until Quark informs him that if the bar's current slump continues, Rom's salary will be the first expense trimmed. Odo asks Quark what happened, and Rom quickly supports his story. Ignoring Odo's skeptical look, Quark tells a thrilling story for the benefit of the crowd, and quickly earns a great deal of notoriety.
Before long, the bar is humming again. Odo drops by and informs Quark that the Klingon was Kozak, leader of a powerful Klingon house, and warns that Kozak's relatives may come seeking vengeance. Rom is worried, but Quark refuses to back down from his story, proclaiming "It's not about profit anymore, it's about respect. You see the way they look at me now — I'm not just some venal Ferengi trying to take their money. I'm Quark, slayer of Klingons!"
However, respect makes poor armor a few hours later, when Quark is slammed against a corridor wall by a seething Klingon, D'Ghor, who claims to be Kozak's brother.
Act TwoEdit
D'Ghor asks how Kozak died, and threatens to kill Quark if Kozak did not die "honorably". Quark tries to tell the truth, but quickly realizes that it is not what D'Ghor wants to hear. With a dagger at his throat, Quark assures D'Ghor that his brother died honorably in battle.
Later that evening, Kozak's widow Grilka arrives in Quark's Bar, asking for him. No sooner does Quark offer her a refreshment than she lunges forward with a dagger; a terrified Quark dives over the bar and hides himself behind a serving tray. Grilka knows such a cowardly Ferengi would be no match for her late husband, drunk or not, and asks if Quark wants to revise his story. Quark admits the truth, at which point Grilka tranquilizes him with a hypospray and abducts him.
Quark regains consciousness inside Grilka's home on Qo'noS where he is greeted by Tumek, Grilka's advisor. When Quark asks who the house belongs to, the older Klingon solemnly tells him that their House "no longer has a name", since Kozak died without a male heir. Quark wonders why D'Ghor cannot inherit the House, and Tumek grows furious. Quark has been duped; D'Ghor is no relation to Kozak. Instead, he is an enemy of the house, who has been plotting to seize control of their land and property for years. Though he has been unsuccessful to date, his power and wealth have been growing, while their house's has inexplicably been dwindling. Tumek explains that Quark played into D'Ghor's hands: had Kozak died in an "accident," and not in battle, the High Council might have granted a special dispensation and allowed Grilka to inherit the House, despite the fact she is a female. Now, with Quark having endorsed D'Ghor's story that Kozak died "honorably," no dispensation will be granted and D'Ghor is poised to seize control. At that moment, Grilka barges into the room and tosses Quark a large ceremonial robe, demanding that he wear it. Tumek recites some chants, and as Grilka holds Quark by knife-point, she and Quark are wed.
Act ThreeEdit
Before the Klingon High Council, D'Ghor is petitioning the Council to cede Kozak's holdings to D'Ghor. Chancellor Gowron appears ready to grant this request, when Grilka drags her new husband into the Council chamber and states that, since her house now has a male head, her holdings may, for the time being, remain in her hands. Over the objections of D'Ghor, a stunned Gowron agrees, declaring that the house will, for the time being, be known as "The House of Quirk" to which he then corrects Gowron as to his name. Bewildered and scared, Quark speaks up and says that some mistake has been made, and wonders if he can reach an accommodation with the parties involved — a suggestion that repulses the Klingons there, and prompts Gowron to order a review of the situation within a few days.
Back at her home, Grilka berates Quark for opening his big, fat mouth, but he rejoins by asking her what their next move is. Grilka is lost for a response, and admits that she is making things up as she goes along. Quark asks her — since he is now her husband, after all — to at least explain to him what is going on. Grilka explains that D'Ghor is angling for a seat on the High Council, and to do that, is seeking to increase his family's power and assets at the expense of hers. Intrigued, Quark asks to examine her family's financial records. Grilka is hostile toward the idea and refuses to sully herself with "filthy ledgers," but Quark points out that she doesn't have a back-up plan, and convinces her to try things his way for the time being.
While perusing the records, Quark learns that D'Ghor has been systematically "attacking" Grilka's family for five years, using various financial strategems to devalue Grilka's property and to assume ownership of Kozak's debts. As a Ferengi, Quark expresses frank admiration for D'Ghor's cleverness; as a Klingon, Grilka is outraged at the idea of another Klingon using financial chicanery to "attack" a Great House.
Quark presents his findings to the Klingon High Council, who, like Grilka, find themselves somewhat at a loss to understand the intricacies of financial scheming. D'Ghor claims Quark is lying, and presents the abducted Rom as a witness in his defense. Declaring his honor insulted by the Ferengi, D'Ghor challenges Quark to a duel.
Act FourEdit
After returning to Grilka's home, Quark and Rom decide to beat a hasty retreat and leave the planet. Grilka stops them at the front door and is disgusted by Quark's cowardice. She decides to let them run away if they wish.
Miles O'Brien and his wife Keiko are experiencing marital troubles. Her school has been shut down, after so many families on the station relocated to Bajor in fear of a Dominion attack, and she finds herself without an occupation. At first, Miles tries to cheer her up with romantic dinners, but is unable to lift her melancholy. He asks for, and receives, Commander Sisko's permission to convert one of the empty cargo bays into an arboretum, but even that fails to satisfy Keiko. Ultimately, deciding that her happiness is the most important thing to him, he encourages her to leave the station to work on a six-month agrobiological expedition on Bajor, and she agrees.
Upon returning to the High Council, Grilka stands helpless as her husband is branded as a coward and her house is about to be handed over to D'Ghor. But Quark suddenly appears and readies himself for the duel. As both combatants raise their weapons at each other, Quark suddenly throws his bat'leth away, leaving everyone in attendance speechless. Quark points out that he has no hope of overpowering D'Ghor, and everyone there knows it; the supposed "duel" is nothing more than an execution. Quark kneels, completely unable to defend himself, and invites D'Ghor to complete his conquest of Grilka's house by slaughtering an unarmed Ferengi, taunting him to tell the "heroic" story to his children.
Grinning victoriously, D'Ghor raises his bat'leth to strike, but Gowron steps in and seizes his arm. Gowron did not want to believe Quark's earlier accusations, but D'Ghor's dishonorable willingness to kill an unarmed man is as good as a confession. Gowron discommendates him on the spot, and D'Ghor is ejected from the Council chamber. Gowron lifts Quark to his feet, commending him for a show of bravery atypical of his people. Declaring that special circumstances exist, he allows the House of Kozak to pass to Grilka. Grilka thanks Quark and asks if she can repay him in any way. Quark immediately requests a divorce, and Grilka acquiesces; she slaps him to the ground, shouts "N'Gos tlhogh cha!" ("Our marriage is done!") and spits. "You're a free man." Grilka then lifts Quark off of the floor and plants a genuine kiss on him.
Quark and Rom return to Deep Space 9, where business at the bar has returned to its previous slump. Rom is still awestruck by his brother's "magnificent" display of courage in the Great Hall, and reminds Quark that he has now earned genuine respect from many people, not the least of whom include his erstwhile wife and the Chancellor of the Klingon High Council himself. Glumly, Quark says that "respect is good, but latinum's better." Rom asks him to tell the story again; Quark says that everyone's heard the story already, and it won't do any good for business. But Rom insists, "No brother, I want to hear it again." At this, Quark perks up and begins to recount his epic confrontation with D'Ghor on Qo'noS.
Memorable QuotesEdit
"Now I know we're doomed."
"Why, brother?"
"Rule of Acquisition 286: When Morn leaves, it's all over."
"There is no such rule!"
"There should be."
- - Quark and Rom
"What about Kozak's family? What if they come here for revenge?"
"If that happens, I'll stand up, look them straight in the eye...and offer them a bribe."
- - Rom and Quark
"It's not about profit anymore, it's about respect. You see the way they look at me now - I'm not just some venal Ferengi trying to take their money. I'm Quark, slayer of Klingons!"
- - Quark
"Put this on!"
"Because if you do not, I will kill you!"
- - Grilka and Quark
"The House of Kozak is gone. For the time being, it will be known as...as the House of..."
"...The House of...Quark."
- - Gowron and Quark
"Do you mean D'Ghor has been scheming and plotting like a F—; (catches herself)"
"Like a Ferengi."
- - Grilka and Quark
"I really am very grateful for all you've done, Quark. That is why I'm going to let you take your hand off my thigh, instead of shattering every bone in your body."
- - Grilka
"The charge has been made! You are accused of using... money... to bring down a Great House!"
- - Gowron, to D'Ghor
"I am Quark, son of Keldar, and I have come to answer the challenge of D'Ghor, son of... whatever."
- - Quark
"A brave Ferengi. Who would have thought it possible...?"
- - Gowron, in admiration, to Quark for his bravery in standing up to D'Ghor
"So you lied to the station security chief, to your customers, and to D'Ghor. You must be quite a liar."
"It's a gift."
- - Grilka and Quark
"D'Ghor, what are you doing? I did not want to believe the things he said about you yesterday, but if you can stand here and murder this pathetic little man, then you have no honor... and you have no place in this hall!"
- - Gowron, about to discommendate D'Ghor
"How can I ever thank you?"
"I would like a divorce, please. No offense."
"None taken. I can give it to you right away."
(Grilka slaps Quark very hard.)
"N'Gos tlhogh cha!" ("Our marriage is done!")
(She spits at him)
"You're a free man."
"A little warning would've been nice--"
(Grilka cuts off Quark with a most passionate, heartfelt kiss)
"Qapla' Quark, son of Keldar."
"Qapla' to you, too...!"
- - Grilka and Quark
"Business is dropping off again."
"Money isn't everything."
"If Father were alive, he would wash your mouth out with galcor!"
- - Quark and Rom
Background InformationEdit
Story and scriptEdit
- The working title of this episode was "Fight to the Death". (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion - A Series Guide and Script Library)
- One of the reasons the writers wrote Keiko out of the show for 6 months was to give them room to explore the O'Brien/Bashir friendship. (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion) Indeed, this is the first episode where we see O'Brien and Bashir socialize together (technically, we saw them socialize in "The Search, Part II", but that was part of a programmed reality). However, Bashir claimed they were best friends in "Crossover".
- Stephen Hawking visited the set during the filming of this episode. (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion)
- Laura Richarz used a platter made of shells from the original Star Trek episode "The Trouble with Tribbles" as a set dressing in Grilka's home. The platter had originally been used in the bar set of Space Station K-7. (The Magic of Tribbles: The Making of Trials and Tribble-ations)
- This was the only Star Trek episode to be scored by Richard Bellis. The recording of the score took place on 3 October 1994. (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Collection booklet, p. 28)
- Perhaps unsurprisingly, this is one of Armin Shimerman's favorite episodes; "It meant a lot to me because usually Quark is at the butt of the jokes. But here was a chance to do something, still comedic, but also heroic." (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion)
- Mary Kay Adams commented "Working on the scene in "The House of Quark" where I tell Quark to get his hand off my thigh was great fun. The entire crew kept cracking up every time we did the take. I loved working with Joe Ruskin. I'm a huge fan of his and in the episode he's playing my servant, which was a kick". ("Courting Quark", Star Trek Monthly, issue 36)
- Ronald D. Moore was quite pleased with the finished episode. In an interview with Star Trek Monthly in 1996, he said, "it was fun to go back to the Klingons and do them with a lighter tone and some comedy. But even though we were spoofing them, they were still pure Klingon. It was a fun way to point out some of the more bizarre aspects of the Empire and the way it's run. And the idea of Klingons being confused by Quark's ledgers and accounting practices was, in itself, a funny idea." (Star Trek Monthly issue 17)
- Robert O'Reilly makes his first Deep Space Nine appearance as Chancellor Gowron in this episode.
- Mary Kay Adams and Joseph Ruskin reprised the roles of Grilka and Tumek respectively in the fifth season episode "Looking for par'Mach in All the Wrong Places".
- Parts of this episode, particularly the scenes set in the Great Hall, deliberately echo TNG: "Sins of the Father", but with a comedic twist, bringing to mind Karl Marx's dictum that history repeats itself, "the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce".
- Tom Benko, who is credited with the story for this episode, is the only person to have written, directed and edited Star Trek.
- Cirroc Lofton (Jake Sisko) does not appear in this episode, but Miles O'Brien asks Keiko O'Brien about him.
- Grilka's beaming command while holding the unconscious Quark is the same as the one Kirk gives while holding Spock in Star Trek III: The Search for Spock.
- This episode marks the only appearance of Gowron in either The Next Generation or Deep Space Nine without Worf.
- Despite the many Klingon-centric episodes of the series, this is the only episode of Deep Space Nine to feature scenes set on Qo'noS. The planet would not be depicted on screen again until "Broken Bow", the pilot episode of Star Trek: Enterprise, almost seven years later.
- One of the aliens seen outside the bar while Quark is telling the story of how Kozak died, is the same as the Ankari seen in the Delta Quadrant.
Video and DVD releasesEdit
- UK VHS release (two-episode tapes, CIC Video): Volume 3.2, 27 February 1995.
- As part of the DS9 Season 3 DVD collection.
Links and references Edit
Starring Edit
Also Starring Edit
- Rene Auberjonois as Constable Odo
- Siddig El Fadil as Doctor Julian Bashir
- Terry Farrell as Lieutenant Jadzia Dax
- Colm Meaney as Chief Miles O'Brien
- Armin Shimerman as Quark
- Nana Visitor as Major Kira Nerys
Guest Stars Edit
- Rosalind Chao as Keiko O'Brien
- Mary Kay Adams as Grilka
- Carlos Carrasco as D'Ghor
- Max Grodénchik as Rom
- Robert O'Reilly as Chancellor Gowron
- Joseph Ruskin as Tumek
Co-Star Edit
Uncredited Co-Stars Edit
- Sam Alejan as a medical officer
- Michael Bailous as a Klingon High Council member
- Scott Barry as a Bajoran officer
- Ivor Bartels as a security officer
- Bill Blair as a Klingon High Council member
- Randy James as Lieutenant Jones
- Dan McGee as a command division lieutenant
- Robin Morselli as a Bajoran officer
- Mark Allen Shepherd as Morn
- Unknown performers as
Stunt double Edit
agrobiology; Alpha Quadrant; arboretum; Bajor; Bajorans; basil; bat'leth; battle drill; bloodwine; botanist; Brek'tal ritual; canapé; Coverian; Coverian freighter; dabo; dabo girl; DaiMon; discommendation; d'k tahg; Dominion; Ferengi; Ferengi Alliance; galcor; Rules of Acquisition; fireworks; galcor; gambling; Great Hall; Great House; holosuite; House of D'Ghor; House of Grilka; House of Kozak; House of Quark; insurance; Irish; Janitza Mountains; Keldar; Klingon Empire; Klingon High Council; Kobheerian freighter; latinum; Markalian; meter; Milky Way Galaxy; O'Brien, Molly; Nog; ODN conduit; "Old Man"; Orok; plomeek soup; Qo'noS; Quark's; Replimat; runabout; Sisko, Jake; special dispensation; synthale; synthehol; tattoo; theft; tricorder; Tygarian
External linksEdit
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Updated at 9:43 a.m. ET: KABUL, Afghanistan - Afghan President Hamid Karzai sharply criticized the United States in an exclusive interview with NBC News on Thursday, blaming American and NATO forces for some of the growing insecurity in his country.
"Part of the insecurity is coming to us from the structures that NATO and America created in Afghanistan," Karzai said during a one-on-one interview at the presidential palace. However, he also acknowledged that much of the country's violence was caused by insurgent groups.
The Taliban are regaining land and power lost after they were toppled by U.S.-backed forces in 2001. Meanwhile, Karzai has gone from being a favorite of Washington under the presidency of George W. Bush, to a thorn in the White House's side with his criticism of American night raids and mounting civilian casualties at the hands of NATO troops. Many in Washington have also grown weary of Karzai, viewing him as ineffective and presiding over a deeply corrupt government.
After 10 years of Karzai's rule, has life improved in Afghanistan?
Karzai, who is serving his second five-year term, also told NBC News that he had sent a letter to President Barack Obama saying that Afghanistan would not sign any new security agreements with the United States until hundreds of prisoners held in U.S. custody were transferred to Afghan authorities.
His criticism of the United States, Afghanistan's most important ally, has come after the start of complex bilateral talks on a security pact on the role the United States would play after most of its troops are withdrawn by the end of 2014.
Karzai said the inmates in American detention in Afghanistan were being held in breach of an agreement he and Obama signed in March and must be handed over immediately.
More than ten years after the beginning of the war, Afghanistan faces external pressure to reform as well as ongoing internal conflicts.
"We signed the strategic partnership agreement with the expectation and the hope ... the nature of the United States' activities in Afghanistan will change," Karzai said. But American behavior had not changed, he said, adding that terrorism would not be defeated "by attacking Afghan villages and Afghan homes."
PhotoBlog: Relentless Afghan conflict leaves traumatized generation
The dispute between the two countries centers around Bagram Air Base and a nearby detention facility, which have long been seen as a symbol of American impunity and disrespect by many Afghans.
"I have written to President Obama that the Afghan people will not allow its government to enter into a security agreement, while the United States continues to violate Afghan sovereignty and Afghan loss," he said.
Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai had harsh words for the U.S. during an exclusive interview with NBC's Atia Abawi.
During the interview, Karzai also said that he didn't think al-Qaida "has a presence in Afghanistan."
He added: "I don't even know if al-Qaida exists as an organization as it is being spoken about. So all we know is that we have insecurity."
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In the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, the United States led the invasion to topple the Taliban, which was harboring al-Qaida and its then-leader, Osama bin Laden. While weakened, especially after the death of bin Laden at the hands of U.S. special forces in Pakistan in 2011, al-Qaida is still thought to have strong links with the Taliban and other Afghan insurgents.
Karzai said Afghans were thankful to foreign forces for being "liberated" in 2001, but complained that since then his countrymen had suffered the most in the fight against extremism.
Panetta: US foresees 'enduring presence' to fight al-Qaida in Afghanistan
"In the name of the war on terror the Afghan people have paid the greatest price of any. That has not been recognized," he said.
While there have been more than 2,000 American military casualties since the invasion of Afghanistan, civilians have borne the brunt of the violence. In the first six months of 2012 alone, more than 3,000 civilians were killed or injured, according the United Nations. This number was down 15 percent from a year earlier. Anti-government and coalition insurgents were responsible for 80 percent of the civilian casualties, the U.N. says.
Karzai also addressed the issue of graft during the interview, saying there was "no doubt that there is corruption in Afghanistan."
As Taliban regroup, victims battle for 'free' Afghanistan
In an exclusive interview with NBC's Atia Abawi, Afghanistan's President Hamid Karzai says that the U.S. is not sticking to a signed agreement between their two countries.
"The bigger corruption is the corruption in contracts," he added. "The contracts are not issued by the Afghan government. The contracts are issued by the international community, mainly by the United States."
In 2010, the country received $6.4 billion in official development assistance, representing more than 40 percent of its gross domestic product, according to humanitarian news site AlertNet. Two-thirds of the funds aren't channeled through the government because of concerns about corruption and the government's ability to use the money properly, AlertNet added.
Afghanistan is tied with Somalia and North Korea at the bottom of Transparency International's Corruption Perception Index 2012. A 2012 United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime report estimated that Afghans paid $2.5 billion in bribes over 12 months, which is equivalent to almost a quarter of the country's GDP.
Kevin Frayer / AP
In southern Afghanistan, the focus of the U.S. war effort, nearly all the Afghan soldiers are foreigners too. Photographer Kevin Frayer shows these soldiers in a series of portraits.
The international community had fostered graft to keep the Afghan state weak, Karzai said.
"I've come to believe (that) ... corruption comes from the United States through contracts and through the corruption in both systems," he said, adding that the "perception of corruption is deliberate to render the Afghan government exploitable, to weaken it," he said. "This is something that I have began to believe in firmly now after the experiences that I've gained in ... working on this issue."
NBC News' F. Brinley Bruton and Kiko Itasaka contributed to this report.
More world stories from NBC News:
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Violent, Racist Union Thugs Destroy Hot Dog Cart
This is apparently OK with the Legacy Media, since the violent, racist union thugs funnel money to and vote Democrat
(The Blaze) A man running a local hot dog stand in Michigan's state capital was among those attacked by protesters of the state's "Right to Work" legislation while he served food in a tent that was torn down yesterday. The man was also allegedly taunted when he tried to salvage some of his property.
During Tuesday's protests – the day Gov. Rick Snyder signed into law what he said is "pro-worker" legislation – the equipment Clint Tarver uses to run Clint's Hot Dog Cart and Casual Catering was destroyed by people some have called "union thugs."
According to the Lansing State Journal, Tarver was hired by the pro-Right-to-Work group Americans for Prosperity to serve hot dogs in the tent. TheBlaze reported about the tent's destruction Tuesday – and how protesters were reportedly cutting up and distributing pieces of it as "souvenirs."
Tarver was simply doing an honest days work for an honest days pay, but, he was in the way of the violent union goons and became collateral damage. Fortunately, responsible and caring people (who would be Conservatives) have taken up a collection to replace his business.
Tarver is a caring man, a kind man. Unfortunately, he ran into Democrats
Clint Tarver was a guest on Dana Loesch's FM 97.1 radio showtoday. In the interview he explained what happened at the tent from his perspective. He said by 11: 30 a.m. the "mayhem" started. Two men entered the tent, one wearing a devil's mask, the other a ski mask. These two men provided Tarver with a ticket to get a hot dog, which he provided them.
"Three minutes later, they're next to me turning coffee urns over at another table," Tarver said on the show.
He went onto explain how he was urged by another to leave the tent, which he had to crawl out of because it collapsed. Tarver confirmed that he was targeted with racial slurs, including the "n-word" and people saying "you're on the wrong side."
"I said to them 'I'm here for a job. I'm not on this side, I'm not on that side. I'm here for a job.'" Tarver recounted. "And I just stood there and took it."
Any liberals care to defend this? Or will you call this a "false flag operation," too? More at Twitchy, including
Love the thug mentality. Please, tell me how you're all about the worker while you stomp all over his hot dog cart biz.
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December 12, 2012 —
WOODBOURNE, NY — The Sullivan County Community Chorus will present its 36th annual winter concert on Sunday, December 16 at 2 p.m. at the Immaculate Conception Catholic Church. The chorus, under the direction of Kevin Giroux with accompanist Keira Weyant and a chamber ensemble, will present Mozart masterworks and holiday selections.
Chorus members are from Sullivan and Ulster counties and range in age from 16 to over 80. Performances are made possible with funds from the Sullivan County Decentralization Program, a re-grant program of the New York State Council on the Arts, administered by the Delaware Valley Arts Alliance.
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Skip to comments.Report: Rand Paul to introduce bill nullifying Obamas executive orders on guns
Posted on 01/17/2013 2:20:01 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Via the Daily Caller, a teaser for his appearance on "Hannity" later tonight. If I didn't know better, I'd say that a guy who just visited Israel and is now talking about blocking executive overreach on gun-grabbing just might be running for president in 2016.
The bill will go nowhere but conservatives will appreciate the gesture:
Im told Sen. Rand Paul will introduce language within hours, within hours, to call for the nullification and prohibition of funding for the presidents executive actions announced today and possibly even using the federal courts to nullify and defund some of the things that he plans on doing, [Fox News host Eric] Bolling said.
[A] Capitol Hill source told TheDC that Pauls legislation is expected to do three things: nullify Obamas executive orders, defund them and ask the Senate to file a court challenge to them.
At the very least, if he can figure out a way to bring this to the floor, it'll be fun to see how Democrats whose seats are up next year will vote on it. Word on the Hill is that Reid might not even force a vote on the assault-weapons ban lest it prove too difficult for red-state Dems' reelection campaigns. (According to a CNN poll released today, the recent surge of support for gun control is already starting to fade.) Will Mark Begich? Mary Landrieu? Heidi Heitkamp? Watch the video of her below from a local newscast yesterday (via the Washington Free Beacon) not only sounding sour on Obama's gun recommendations but going so far as to accuse the White House of having an agenda unrelated to school shootings. Which, of course, is true.
Exit question: How many doctors are really going to follow the White House's recommendations to talk to their patients about gun safety? I know they do get intrusive on occasion, and it's a legit topic in the case of a patient who seems genuinely mental, but doctors must realize what a hot button this subject is for many people. Why risk alienating a patient and having him take his business elsewhere by trying to have "the talk" with him about guns? How many doctors know enough about guns themselves to even have that talk? This seems like a golden example of the White House floating an idea that sounds conscientious — it isn't, it's just the AMA's attempt to leach some extra federal money — but which will be roundly ignored. The nicest thing that can be said for it is that it's not remotely the most laughworthy recommendation offered by Obama this morning.
This is interesting, just sent by a friend. It outlines most of the mass killings/violent attacks and the LEGAL drugs each of the perps was on or withdrawing from at the time.
No doubt there are many others, but he's one of the few whose efforts make the one stream media feed and he does an admirable job explaining the what and why without sounding like a nut.
How rare is that?
And the bonus is this — He does not seem to be as crazy as his dad when it comes to foreign policy.
Cheers for Paul! And FU Vichy Republicans.
Not sure how far this will get, but I o appreciate his bringing it up.
He seems to be the only man in the Senate with a pair of balls.
Why didn't he introduce a bill to nullify Obama's backdoor amnesty E.O. for 1.8 million illegal aliens?
Well, for me personally, my Constitutional right to keep and bear arms is a more pressing matter than the inconvenience of illegals running around washing dishes and blowing leaves for sub minimum wage pay. I won't lose sleep over the latter if he's focusing on the former.
The first Republican who stands up to Obama on the gun issue in a meaningful way gets my support on 2016.....if we make it that far. So far I like what I see in Rand Paul
Out of all the nonsense i see. Rand Paul is about the best I know for believing in the American Dream.
Why doesn't Rand mention the Court's clarification that constitutionally undefined executive orders have no teeth without Congress's legislative support?
Executive Order
In fact, why are the public schools evidently not teaching that the Founding States made the Constitution's Sections 1-3 of Article I to clarify that all legislative powers of the federal government are vested in the elected members of Congress, Congress therefore having a monopoly on federal legislative powers whether it wants it or not. (But what are legislative powers the people ask in unison?)
Thanks AuntB! That's a fantastic link to a summary of school threats or violence between 1988-2011 which links to more details. How can MSM ignore this clear correlation of school violence (using various methods including guns) and folks on some form of anti-depressant drugs. (I know the answer to that, it does not fit their narrative).
66 events listed.
Types of incidents includes:
School Arson Incidents
School Bomb Threat
School Hostage Situation
School Knife Attack
School Stabbing (distinction unclear)
School Machete Attack
School Shooting
I counted 102 Dead 77 Wounded (US Only) 1988 - 2011.
Kids and child-minds on meds; what could possibly go wrong?
This needs to be the focus, not guns.
This is the only guy I have even a remote interest in voting for President in 2016.
AMEN to Rand Paul....what bambaboy did yesterday was child abuse.....
The 23 point Fatwa issued by Obama are called Executive Actions because there is not a single Executive Order among them. Most of it is all power and light and no action, Obama doesn't want to be caught with his name attached to something that backfires. The Democrats in the Senate, especially the Red State Dems who are up for reelection, don't want it stuck to their fingers either.
This stuff won't be enacted into law. The danger is in the stuff that Obama can do administratively like what Lisa Jackson has done at EPA - that could be significant and it can be done in the dark of night.
I don't know. What did he say when you asked him that?
From where did his core values come? RON PAUL - the daddyrabbit. I like and appreciate them both.
Inconvenience??? Illegal aliens cost at least $113 billion a year. Since 9/11, over 50,000 Americans have lost their lives to illegal aliens who have committed millions of crimes including murder, rape, armed robbery, etc. They make up one third of the inmates in federal prisons.
I won't lose sleep over the latter if he's focusing on the former.
He should be focusing on both. Obama deserves to be impeached for his illegal, backdoor amnesty. Their is currently a lawsuit by border patrol agents accusing the President of not allowing them to enforce the laws of the United States, something they and the President swore under oath to do.
Yes, I've noticed the same thing. So far, he seems to be more of a common sense Constitutionalist than his father.
I thank Kentucky for sending him to Congress, now more than ever.
"In an interview with POLITICO, Paul said hell return to Congress this week pushing measures long avoided by his party. He wants to work with liberal Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy and Republicans to eliminate mandatory minimum sentences for pot possession. He wants to carve a compromise immigration plan with an eventual path to citizenship for illegal immigrants, a proposal he believes could be palatable to conservatives. And he believes his ideas along with pushing for less U.S. military intervention in conflicts overseas could help the GOP broaden its tent and appeal to crucial voting blocs that handed Democrats big wins in the West Coast, the Northeast and along the Great Lakes.
Sheesh, a long list of people on antidepressants.
Let's ban depression.
Actually Ron Paul's foreign policy stance makes more sense everyday: fix the problems at home first.
The atheistic communism at home is far more dangerous than the atheistic communism in Asia.
Thanks for the heads up. This is potentially disturbing, depending upon the compromises.
If they start by locking and enforcing our borders with no compromise whatsoever, I'd be willing to hear the rest. Otherwise, no sale.
>Obama deserves to be impeached for his illegal, backdoor amnesty.<
There is no one with enough brass among the congresscretins who dares to investigate something simple like Obama's eligibility, much less to initiate impeachment proceedings.
Sadly enough the "The atheistic communism at home" is protected by the First Amendment and the ACLU will see to it that it will thrive.
To my thinking, Rand takes a more common sense approach to foreign policy than his dad did, but both make more sense than what we are doing now.
The comments Rand Paul recently made in Israel are more in line with what I'd like to see for our foreign policy and maybe a bit closer to what George Washington had in mind.
So, you are saying that Rand and Ron Paul have heated disagreements over foreign policy at family gatherings?
The text of each bill should be posted here, word for word, and every vote.
Heated disagreements over our foreign policy? I have no knowledge. It's possible, but I just don't know.
I think that issue had something to do with why his father's supporters didn't care much for him, in addition to his not supporting his father's candidacy during the primary.
So not only are liberals "freeing" nutcases to roam the streets drugged with virtually worthless "happy pills" with and definitely destructive side effects, virtually every one of these cases occurred in a "gun-free zone"!
So we conservatives are all supposed to sit down and shut up while they implement their "solutions" (designed to get us killed because their pet criminals are not going to pay any heed to said "solutions," and employing hordes of Democrat bureaucrats to feed off the crimes) because those disasters were supposedly our fault, because we believe in people exercising their right to armed self-defense... except that the crimes occurred where people were NOT permitted to defend themselves.
So here we are, rubbing our hands and hoping that our "leaders" don't sell out too much. Yet even though liberals manufactured these "crises," not a one of our supposed "leaders" even attempts to hold them accountable for setting up the whole thing.
Have I got that about right?
Agreed. Rand has the best aspects his father had without the psycho baggage his dad seemed to have.
Well then being able to protect ourselves with our Constitutionally protected arms is a more pressing matter then, isn't it?
This is all a distraction from our real problems, including illegal immigration. It is easy to demonstrate a spine on the gun issue because it is a winner. The Reps are being stampeded on amnesty in the false hope that they will somehow get more of the Hispanic and immigrant vote. They will not and will end up legalizing more Dem voters.
I am a strong believer in the 2nd Amendment and an NRA member, but I am not as concerned about Obama's charade on gun control as I am about our dire fiscal condition and the lack of the Reps desire to confront the Dems on it. The latest example is the passage of the pork-laden Sandy bill of about $60 billion, which is approximates the same amount of revenue raised by the taxing the rich hike to avoid the fiscal cliff.
Obama is employing a Cloward-Piven strategy of manufacturing all of these crises to distract from what he is really doing to transform this country, e.g., the implementation of another huge entitlement program--Obamacare. He has the Reps running around trying to stamp out multiple small fires while he employs a grand strategy to destroy this country. Immigration, legal and illegal, has changed the demographics of this country, which will make the Dems the permanent majority party. Obama, a failed President, was reelected, which demonstrates we have reached a tipping point in this country politically.
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Times a year women use a gun to defend against SEXUAL ABUSE4
Tsk, tsk. You have no idea how cruel that is. Think of all the police officers, doctors, nurses, rape crisis counselors, lawyers, judges, clerks, bailiffs, prison guards, parole officers, job-placement counselors, psychologists, and welfare case workers those women deprived of a job...
Have you no compassion?
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Shanghai Expo 2010Some pavilions showcase their country as a tourist destination, some show off fine products for Chinese consumers to covet, while others present smiling portraits of their citizens extending a hand of friendship. The United Kingdom decided on an entirely conceptual approach that had little relationship to any ideas or images of the island nation that expo visitors might have held before.
The British Pavilion, designed by Heatherwick Studio led by the internationally acclaimed Thomas Heatherwick, made succinct points about humanity and our environment rather than delivering a public relations or marketing message.
Two key concepts are imparted: biodiversity and public space.
The main structure, the Seed Cathedral, is formed from 60,000 transparent 7.5 meter long fiber optic rods, each encasing one or more seeds at its tip. During the day, they draw daylight inwards to illuminate the interior. At night, light sources inside each rod allow the whole structure to glow. As the wind moves past, the building and its optic hairs gently move to create a dynamic effect.
The project is more English than it might seem. London is among the world's greenest megacities and city has the world's first major botanical institution, the Royal Botanic Gardens at Kew, itself part of Heatherwick's inspiration for the Seed Cathedral. The Kew Gardens' Millennium Seedbank seeks to collect the seeds of 25% of the world's plant species by 2020. The seeds used in the Cathedral were sourced from China's Kunming Institute of Botany, a partner in Kew Royal Botanic Gardens' Millennium Seed Bank Project.
The pavilion also makes an environmental point with its construction. To reduce unnecessary transportation, 75% of the materials for the UK Pavilion have been sourced from within a radius of 300km around Shanghai. Most of the materials of the UK Pavilion will be reused or recycled at the end of the Expo.
Interestingly, the lasting memory the pavilion leaves might be of the public space it provided. The large open space around the Seed Cathedral – nick-named The Dandelion by the Chinese public – gives visitors a place to relax, chat, and take a break from the maddening crowds of the Expo. When one thinks of all the parks in London, this seems very appropriate.
The result of this conceptual pavilion may be that visitors leave with new viewpoints on the United Kingdom, urbanism, and the environment. While other pavilions cement existing stereotypes, positive or not, this pavilion shows a country that – far from being traditional and uptight as many Chinese imagine it to be – is forward thinking and imaginative. The UK appears as a country eager to raise awareness about and confront the challenges facing society and our ecosystem.
Naturally, the appearance of the Seed Cathedral is probably the most memorable and revolutionary of all the pavilions. The goal set by the UK's Foreign & Commonwealth Office (FCO) of creating one of the five biggest attractions of the Expo has been met, if coverage in the Chinese media and the number of magazine covers the pavilion graces is any barometer. All of this bodes quite well for London as it sets the stage for impressing the world in 2012. The empire may have passed, the economy may be weakened, but the country still seems filled with vitality.


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When I was younger, raw chicken was possibly the most disgusting thing in the entire world. I remember my mom prepping a whole chicken for dinner and looking on in horror as she touched - OMG she touched it! - that slimy, sticky bird that somehow turned into something oh-so-delicious for our evening meal. And if she requested my help? Forget about it. I would have no part in such morbid activities and I certainly made my opinion of partaking in such activities well-known.
Why do I bring up such a memory? I had to laugh this evening as I was preparing tonight's dinner. The recipe called for removing the skin from the drumsticks... No easy feat. As I'm pulling and yanking and wrestling with each piece, I could just sense my 10-year old self staring at my now 27-year old self with wonder and disbelief. Who have I become!
Lucky for me, such activities are not off-limits these days, and I'm able to whip together a nice weeknight meal of Asian-glazed drumsticks and Chinese fried rice without batting an eye. Because I don't think I could live without these drumsticks in my life. Sticky, sweet, spicy and delicious. And surprisingly healthy at only around 115 calories per drumstick. Score!
7-8 chicken drumsticks, skin removed
2/3 c. water
1 tsp. Srirachi hot sauce
5 Tbs. balsamic vinegar
5 Tbs. low-sodium soy sauce
2 1/2 tsp. white sugar
3 cloves garlic, finely minced
2 tsp. fresh, grated ginger
2 Tbs. chives and/or scallions, chopped
1 tsp. sesame seeds
salt and pepper to taste
In a small bowl, combine water, Srirachi, vinegar, soy sauce, sugar, garlic and ginger. Whisk to combine. Set aside.
Lightly salt and pepper the drumsticks. In a large cast iron skillet, brown chicken over high heat for three to four minutes. Add sauce and cook on high heat until boiling. Reduce heat to low, cover and cook for 20 minutes, turning occasionally. Remove cover, bring heat back to high to reduce sauce, about 10 to 12 minutes, turning chicken occasionally. With about two minutes left, remove chicken to a platter and continue to reduce sauce until it becomes a thick glaze. Pour over chicken. Top with chives, scallions and/or sesame seeds. Enjoy!
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Production number: 183
First aired: 11 February 1998
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- You may be looking for the species known as the Hunters.
Voyager receives a message from Starfleet containing letters from the crew's friends and family.
Summary Edit
The USS Voyager receives a garbled transmission from Starfleet Command via the Hirogen communications network, previously used to send The Doctor to the Alpha Quadrant, but after just a few words the transmission stops. Ensign Harry Kim clears the interference but the bulk of the message is lodged in one of the relay stations, 3.8 light years away. Captain Kathryn Janeway sets a course, determined to find out what the rest of that message says.
Meanwhile, the Hirogen controlling the network, who have already discouraged Voyager's use of it, intercept the message. As Alpha Hirogen Idrin instructs his Beta to locate the ship receiving it, he adorns his helmet with markings of paint.
Act One Edit
Voyager's bridge crew begin to speculate on the contents of the transmission. Chakotay refers to the Bajoran wormhole discovered in the Gamma Quadrant and wonders if Starfleet has found a similar phenomenon that could help Voyager shorten its journey home. The crew discusses their new-found optimism and the possibility that many of their friends and family might have given up on them, mourned, proceeded with their lives, and found some kind of resolution. Now they will have received word that the crew is alive but so far away that they might as well be dead. Janeway expresses her hope that they might be able to stay in constant contact with home.
When Seven of Nine fails to report to sickbay for her weekly checkup, The Doctor visits her in astrometrics, where she is trying to retrieve more of the Starfleet message. He discovers that she hasn't regenerated in 58 hours, despite his instructions for her to do so at least three hours each day. She insists she could go as long as 200 hours without regenerating. The Doctor reminds her that was true when she was Borg but she is more Human now.
The ship is shaken by gravimetric forces coming from the relay station, still two light years away. As Kim compensates for the disturbance, Lieutenant Commander Tuvok detects a ship, adrift with no propulsion systems, weapons or life support. One dead humanoid is aboard. Janeway has the body beamed to sickbay, wanting to know how he died.
The Doctor examines the corpse, which has been gutted sometime between a week or a month prior. Seven recalls an incident when the Borg encountered a small ship of Species 5174, which had been similarly destroyed. She doesn't know who did it, or why, as the Borg considered that information irrelevant.
Two days later, Voyager has gotten close enough to the relay station to see it on long-range visual sensors. The crew determines it is at least 100,000 years old and uninhabited. The station is also using a small quantum singularity, or black hole, only about a centimeter in diameter, as its power source. Unable to take the ship any closer due to the gravimetric eddies, Chakotay orders Paris to hold position and then contacts Janeway in astrometrics to tell her they are as close as they can get to the relay station.
Seven and Janeway begin downloading the message but the data stream has degraded significantly. Some parts are dislocated while others are rearranged. Janeway tells Seven to get it out in bits and pieces and they will worry about reconstructing it later. As Janeway reads parts of the transmission, she realizes it contains letters from home.
Act Two Edit
Neelix is entrusted with delivery of the first batch of letters retrieved. As he leaves to make his rounds, Seven discovers a latent, heavily encrypted data stream, containing a large block of text and possibly maps, buried under the message but she can't retrieve it until more of the letters have been cleared out. Janeway expresses cautious optimism that it might contain a plan for bringing Voyager back to the Alpha Quadrant and asks Seven what she thinks of recent events. Seven says it lacks any emotional resonance for her, since she's never even been to Earth but Janeway points out it's possible she has family there. Seven is taken aback, admitting that thought hadn't occurred to her.
Neelix goes to the bridge, where he delivers a letter to Chakotay from Sveta, the woman who recruited him into the Maquis. As he reads, Chakotay realizes that the contents of the letter are serious and leaves to read the letter in private. An anxious Kim asks Neelix if there are more letters but Neelix has no more, yet, for the bridge crew. He leaves to deliver a letter to Tuvok from his wife, T'Pel, and is appalled when Tuvok doesn't immediately drop what he's doing to read it. Accidentally revealing that he's seen the contents of the first few lines, Neelix offers to read it to him, saying it contains important news. Tuvok's son, Sek, has been through the pon farr and he and his mate now have a daughter, T'Meni, who was named after Tuvok's mother. Neelix leaves Tuvok alone to read the rest. At first, Tuvok puts it down and returns to his weekly tactical review but then reconsiders and puts his work aside and begins reading his wife's letter.
Janeway enters the bridge with her own letter that has just been retrieved. She goes to her ready room to read it. As she does, she first smiles, but then her expression slowly changes to one of sorrow.
Chakotay shares the disturbing contents of his letter with Lt. jg B'Elanna Torres. The Maquis are gone, wiped out by the Cardassians and an ally from the Gamma Quadrant. Sveta and a few others are in prison but the rest, including their friends Atara and Roberto, are all dead. Incensed, Torres vows to make someone pay if they ever get back home.
In the mess hall, Kim tells Paris that he's heard at least thirty more letters have been downloaded and Neelix is on his way there to deliver them. Paris is more interested in his meal, a "mystery dish" that tastes vaguely like chicken but has the consistency of corn husks. Kim is stunned by Paris' disinterest. Neelix arrives, with letters for Nicoletti, Crewman Fitzpatrick, Ensign Kyoto, Golwat, Ashmore, Dorado and Michael Parsons. Upset, Kim asks where the remainder of the thirty letters are but Neelix tells him that what he heard was just a rumor.
In her ready room, Janeway stares blankly ahead. Seven enters and tells the captain that the message is becoming harder to retrieve as it continues to degrade while it remains logged in the relay station. She requests permission to take a shuttle, which can withstand the gravimetric eddies more easily than Voyager, to the station to stabilize the containment field. Janeway tells her to go and take Tuvok with her. Seven questions her reason for assigning Tuvok to the mission as well and Janeway says it is not her custom to send an away team of one.
Kim finds Torres in astrometrics, where she has taken over for Seven to retrieve the messages. Torres teases him about his attraction to Seven but Kim is just there to find out if he's received a letter yet. Torres tells him no but encourages him to have patience.
In the shuttle, Seven asks Tuvok if Janeway was being truthful when she said she always sent at least two people on away teams, or was it a ruse because the captain still doesn't trust Seven and believes she requires supervision. Tuvok assures her it is not only custom but recommended Starfleet protocol. He tells her the captain's decision to have him accompany her shouldn't be taken as evidence of a particular attitude. As they work to stabilize the station's containment field, Tuvok asks Seven if the captain's opinion is important to her. Seven evades a direct answer and the conversation is cut short by an attack from an approaching ship that knocks out the shuttle's navigation, communications, warp engines, and weapons.
Act Three Edit
Tuvok and Seven try to lure their attacker closer to the station, believing the larger ship will be far more vulnerable to the gravimetric eddies than they are but are unsuccessful. Tuvok launches a distress beacon just before the two of them are rendered unconscious.
Torres calls Paris down to astrometrics, having received a letter for him. Paris isn't interested and says he's going back to the bridge. Torres is perplexed by his behavior. When Paris retrieves the letter, it turns out to be from Admiral Owen Paris, Paris' father. Even less enthused, Paris tells Torres that the more everybody gets excited about the letters from home, the more he wants no part of it. He tells her that what he has on Voyager is better than anything he ever had back home. Torres urges him to reconsider: He's not the same person he was four years ago so what makes him think his father is? She asks him to give his father a chance but Paris tells her that he won't, which causes Torres to break down. She tells him of Sveta's letter and how she's gone from blinding anger to crying for an hour to trying to accept it and move on. Paris comforts her, apologizing for going on about his problems with his father that don't even matter. Torres tells him he obviously still cares what his father thinks of him and he reluctantly admits that maybe he does. She promises to let him know when she gets the whole letter.
Chakotay reports to Janeway that Tuvok and Seven must have been successful, as Torres is downloading the letters a lot more easily now. The shuttle hasn't appeared on sensors yet but is expected back soon. Janeway has been analyzing the station and wants to stay for a while longer, calling it the kind of archaeological puzzle that has always fascinated her. Chakotay asks about her letter and she reveals it came from her former fiance, Mark Johnson. He told her about Mollie, Janeway's Irish Setter, giving birth to a litter of puppies, about how devastated he was when Voyager was lost and how he held out hopes they were alive longer than most people did. Eventually, though, he let go and began living his life again. Four months earlier he married a woman who worked with him. Chakotay asks Janeway if she's all right and she says she knew he'd eventually move on with his life but she sensed such a finality to that letter.
Kim calls Janeway to the bridge. Sensors have picked up an automated distress signal from Tuvok's shuttle and no one is onboard.
Act Four Edit
Tuvok and Seven regain consciousness to find themselves bound in the trophy room of a Hirogen warship. As they consider using one of the bladed weapons hanging on the wall to free themselves, Idrin appears, telling them they were "pathetic prey." Unsatisfied by the hunt, Idrin demands information on why they were using the communications network. Tuvok explains they were trying to retrieve important messages from their home and tells Idrin if he returns them to their ship, they'll leave without trespassing again. Idrin claims they are relics of the hunt and marks each of them with colored paint. Seven tells Idrin their captain is a formidable opponent and their ship is heavily armed, which pleases Idrin, who believes stronger prey will make for a better hunt. The Beta Hirogen locates Voyager and informs Idrin that it is an hour away. When Idrin orders him to go to stalking mode, the Beta hesitates, preferring to wait for other Hirogen ships en route. Idrin insists on claiming the prey for himself but the Beta fears they may not be able to take on Voyager alone.
Meanwhile on Voyager, Kim locates the Hirogen ship with Tuvok and Seven on it. Janeway hails Idrin's ship and attempts to negotiate their release but Idrin refuses. Three more Hirogen ships bear down on Voyager.
Act Five Edit
Idrin prepares to kill Tuvok first, using a blade from the wall display.
On Voyager, Torres reports that she still needs another half hour to finish retrieving the Starfleet messages from the relay station. On the bridge, Kim reports that he is unable to get a transporter lock on Seven and Tuvok due to the Hirogen ship's monotanium armor plating. He further reports that the three other ships, each with massive weapons, are fast approaching their location.
Janeway reasons that if Voyager can increase the gravitational pull of the quantum singularity powering the station, and weaken the station's containment field, it might help in the battle. Kim is ordered to create a low level warp field around Voyager to protect it from the gravitational pull but not so strong as to prevent them from beaming Tuvok and Seven aboard. Firing an antithoron burst at the station, Voyager successfully weakens the station's containment field enough to start pulling the Hirogen ships toward it. Tuvok seizes the opportunity to grab the blade and kill one Hirogen but another hurls him against a bulkhead.
Torres hails the bridge. The antithoron burst has collapsed the signal and she's retrieved as much of the message as she's going to get.
The Hirogen ships continue their attack, further destabilizing the containment field, despite Janeway's warnings. As the singularity is exposed, Voyager sets a tractor beam on the ship Tuvok and Seven are on. Kim targets Tuvok and Seven but any attempt to transport them could result in the gravity well scattering their patterns. As the tractor beam weakens, Janeway decides they must risk it. Seven and Tuvok are beamed to Voyager as the Hirogen ship disappears into the black hole. Despite distorting patterns, Kim manages to safely rematerialize both of them and Voyager succeeds in breaking free of the singularity by shutting down various systems and overexerting the antimatter injectors.
In astrometrics, Torres tells Janeway she has discovered that the energy released from the singularity created a massive discharge along the relay network. This discharge has disabled every one of the stations. She was able to retrieve most of the encrypted Starfleet text and a few more personal letters but it will take time to decode the encrypted messages. Torres excuses herself to deliver the personal letters. Janeway tells her Neelix can do that but Torres says there's one she wants to do personally.
On the bridge, Torres gives Kim the last letter she was able to retrieve, from his parents. She tells Paris that the letter from his father was lost before she could get it. She tells him "You could assume that he said he loves you and that he's proud of you." Paris responds that he will.
Tuvok reports to Janeway on what little he was able to learn regarding the Hirogen. He calls them extremely dangerous, lacking any moral center. He theorizes they probably used the relay network for communications and won't be pleased about its destruction. As Tuvok leaves, Chakotay joins the captain for coffee.
Janeway frets over the crew, certain they were hoping mail call would become a regular part of their day. Chakotay tells her Neelix is planning an impromptu and immediate party to cheer people up. The captain and first officer discuss recent events, including her letter from her former fiance. Janeway tells Chakotay she didn't really expect Mark to wait for her and she's realized she was using him as a safety net to avoid becoming involved with someone else. She adds that with her eventful life in the Delta Quadrant, she wouldn't have had the chance to pursue a relationship even if she had realized she was alone. Chakotay assures her she's hardly alone and the two of them head for Neelix's party.
Log entries Edit
- "Captain's log, stardate 51501.4. After two days at high warp, we're close enough to the relay station to see it on long-range visual sensors."
- "Captain's log, supplemental. Seven of Nine and Commander Tuvok suffered no serious physical damage after their encounter on the alien ship. I've been eager to hear Tuvok's impressions of the species who took them hostage."
Memorable quotes Edit
"I'm finishing my weekly tactical review. When it's completed I'll read the message."
"You're going to wait until you finish the tactical review?"
"Do you have any reason to believe the content of the message will change during that time?"
- - Tuvok and Neelix, when Neelix delivers a letter from home
"It's over, B'Elanna. There are no more Maquis."
- - Chakotay explains to Torres what has happened to the Maquis since they have been lost
"Another one."
"I beg your pardon?"
"I've retrieved another word of text. That makes six."
"Six words in fifty-eight hours?'"
- - The Doctor, questioning Seven's efficiency
"You want some coffee?"
"Cream and sugar, huh?"
"Two sugars."
"Oh, two sugars!?"
- - Janeway, a noted coffee enthusiast, disapproving of Chakotay's preferred taste
"Coffee – the finest organic suspension ever devised."
- - Janeway to Chakotay, explaining why she is having a fourth cup of morning coffee
Background Information Edit
Production Edit
- This episode had the working title "Communications". [1]
- The episode's final draft script was submitted on 16 October 1997. [2]
- The considerable size of the Hirogen in this episode is a result of the fact that the original inspiration for the aliens, as devised by co-executive producer Brannon Braga, was the largeness of football players. (Cinefantastique, Vol. 30, No. 9/10, p. 98) Alan Sims recalled that, for the Hirogen in this episode, the production crew "hired actors that were close to seven feet and then put platforms in their boots to give them even greater height." (Star Trek: Aliens & Artifacts, p. 177)
- Torres actress Roxann Dawson liked the storyline about news of the Maquis' destruction. Moments after referring to the scene in which Chakotay gives Torres this news as "really interesting," Dawson remarked, "I love that they're bringing that up again." (Cinefantastique, Vol. 30, No. 9/10, p. 93) Dawson also liked the scene where, in the astrometrics lab, her character and Paris talk about not only the destruction of the Maquis but also the message from the latter's father. Dawson referred to it as "a really nice scene where there's no kissing involved." She went on to say, "You just see these two friends dealing with some very difficult situations. At first we snap at each other, and then we resolve our differences. It's a very mature scene, and it shows the depth of what they feel for each other, and how they respect each other." (Cinefantastique, Vol. 30, No. 9/10, p. 98)
- The paint containers used by the Hirogen were, in reality, developed by Starline Corporation. (citation needed • edit)
- The first shot of Voyager in this episode – showing the vessel passing through a nebula – uses the exact same CGI background used in the opening moments of the Season 2 episode "Deadlock", when Voyager is evading the Vidiians within a nebula (the scene angle is the same, but the path/angle of Voyager is slightly different).
- According to the unauthorized reference book Delta Quadrant (pp. 222, 9, 82), the exterior of the relay station in this episode was actually a studio model that was often reused in Star Trek productions, including Star Trek: Voyager's pilot episode, "Caretaker", (as the Caretaker's array) and the second season episode "Cold Fire" (as Suspiria's array).
- The look of the Hirogen warship's exterior, first introduced in this episode, was designed by senior illustrator Rick Sternbach and digitally modeled by Brandon MacDougall at Foundation Imaging. CGI Effects Director Ron Thornton influenced the design by suggesting that Sternbach's plan for the ship be flattened. wbm
- Visualizing the relay station's destruction was a complicated process. Visual effects supervisor Mitch Suskin recalled, "We had a lot of trouble coming up with a credible way to make the station collapse into itself and implode. We did it almost entirely at Foundation Imaging, but that went through a lot of massaging, and looking at the shot frame by frame." (Cinefantastique, Vol. 30, No. 9/10, p. 98)
Reception and Aftermath Edit
- Ultimately, Mitch Suskin was not completely happy with this episode. He remarked, "There are shows you love every season, and shows that are kind of awkward, and that show was awkward in many ways [....] In the ebb and flow of Star Trek, it's a good show but not one of our greatest." (Cinefantastique, Vol. 30, No. 9/10, p. 98)
- Contrastingly, this installment was one of visual effects producer Dan Curry's favorites from Star Trek: Voyager's fourth season. (Cinefantastique, Vol. 30, No. 9/10, p. 74)
- This episode achieved a Nielsen rating of 3.8 million homes, and a 6% share. [3]
- Cinefantastique rated this episode 2 and a half out of 4 stars. (Cinefantastique, Vol. 30, No. 9/10, p. 97)
- Star Trek Monthly scored this episode 3 out of 5 stars. (Star Trek Monthly issue 42, p. 60)
- The unauthorized reference book Delta Quadrant (p. 223) gives the installment a rating of 4 out of 10.
- Prior to the ending of production on Star Trek: Voyager's fourth season, both Roxann Dawson and Chakotay actor Robert Beltran expressed interest in the Maquis again being featured at some point in the series despite the news of their elimination here, Beltran feeling that this episode left unresolved the subject of how his character and Torres dealt with the Maquis' suppression. (Cinefantastique, Vol. 30, No. 9/10, pp. 82 & 93)
- Roxann Dawson also wanted the data stream that is still not decrypted by the end of this episode to ultimately be revealed as being a message from Starfleet suggesting that, until they themselves can return Voyager to the Alpha Quadrant, the Maquis be secured in the brig. Robert Beltran later agreed that this would have been a good idea. (Cinefantastique, Vol. 30, No. 9/10, pp. 93 & 94)
Continuity and Trivia Edit
- Chakotay references the Bajoran wormhole established in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine when speculating that a similar stable wormhole to the Delta Quadrant might have been found.
- The destruction of the Maquis was previously revealed in DS9: "Blaze of Glory".
- Several facts that were mentioned within Jeri Taylor's two books dealing with the biographies of the Voyager crew (Mosaic and Pathways) are made canon within this episode.
- Mark's surname is established to be Johnson.
- Admiral Paris's first name is established to be Owen.
- Chakotay mentions Sveta, who recruited him into the Maquis. In Pathways, Chakotay met Sveta at Starfleet Academy and, years later, she told him of the Maquis, which he joined through her after his homeworld was destroyed.
- The name of Tuvok's eldest son and mother are confirmed respectively to be Sek and T'Meni.
- B'Elanna Torres' reaction to her Maquis comrades' deaths is explored further in the fifth season episode "Extreme Risk".
- The content of the data stream introduced here plays an important role in the plot of the fourth season finale "Hope and Fear".
- Oddly, although Janeway claims to Seven that she herself is "not accustomed to sending an away team of one," there are several instances when single-person away team missions have occurred.
- The rate at which Voyager receives letters from the array is equivalent to that of about a 300 baud modem.
- Although this is the first time Voyager encounters any Hirogen vessels, Harry Kim recognizes sensor readings of them here as Hirogen ships. This could be due, however, to the fact that the energy signatures of the ships are similar to the energy signature of the Hirogen's transmission from the previous episode, "Message in a Bottle".
- The portion of Janeway's letter that is visible on screen reads as follows:
- Kathryn Janeway
- From Mark Johnson
- Dear Kathryn,
- I was just remembering about the birth of Mollie's puppies and how long ago that seemed. You should see how big they are now and how well they get along with my new kitten. Things at work are still crazy; the production schedule never seems to let up...however I do need to relate some rather difficult news...since you've been gone, it's been so difficult for me to assume...
Video and DVD releases Edit
- UK VHS release (two-episode tapes, CIC Video): Volume 4.8, catalog number VHR 4629, 10 August 1998
- As part of the VOY Season 4 DVD collection
Links and references Edit
Starring Edit
Also Starring Edit
- Robert Beltran as Commander Chakotay
- Roxann Dawson as Lieutenant B'Elanna Torres
- Robert Duncan McNeill as Lieutenant Tom Paris
- Ethan Phillips as Neelix
- Robert Picardo as The Doctor
- Tim Russ as Lieutenant Commander Tuvok
- Jeri Ryan as Seven of Nine
- Garrett Wang as Ensign Harry Kim
Co-stars Edit
- Tiny Ron as the Alpha Hirogen
- Roger Morrissey as a Beta Hirogen
Uncredited co-stars Edit
- David Anderson as Ashmore
- Christine Delgado as Susan Nicoletti
- Tarik Ergin as Ayala
- Kerry Hoyt as Fitzpatrick
- Unknown actresses as:
References Edit
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Take Chewie! I'm sorry to hear the news about Myers. And the screaming frog? My boys thought it was one of the strangest things they had ever heard.
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