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Yesterday, Jim Salisbury noted that the Yankees had scouts at the Phillies games over the weekend. Salisbury confirmed that the Yankees have discussed trading for Carlos Ruiz internally, but also speculated that the Yankees may be interested in Michael Young and Chase Utley as well. Today, we'll begin our series of finding comparable trade returns for some of the players the Phillies may look to deal at the deadline.
The Backdrop
Chase Utley is a 34-year old second basemen who, from 2005-2009, was the best second baseman in baseball according to fWAR by over 15 wins. He is coming off knee injuries that limited him to 511, 454, and 362 PA in the last three seasons. In limited time, Utley has been among the upper tier of second basemen. Despite his injuries, and being between 450 to 700 PA short of those in front of him, Utley has been the sixth-most productive second baseman in all of baseball from 2010-2012. This year, Utley has battled ribcage and oblique injuries but has remained firmly in the second-tier of second basemen for 2013, joining a group that includes Robinson Cano and Ben Zobrist, hitting .268/.335/.469 with 8 HR and 6 SB.
Comparable Players
Through age 34, Utley compares to Joe Gordon, Jeff Kent, and Vinny Castilla, according to Baseball Reference. Gordon was traded before his age 32 season in exchange for Allie Reynolds, who was already established as a fine Major League pitcher. Kent and Castilla were both free agents around their age 34 seasons and were not traded. No luck there.
There have been recent deals, however, that provide a bit of a framework for what the Phillies may look for.
Take for example the 2008 trade deadline deal of Casey Blake to the Dodgers for Carlos Santana. Blake, a late bloomer, put up 11.9 fWAR in the five seasons leading up to 2008 – Utley has put up quite a bit more (28.1) over the last five seasons but is seen with injury concerns and a downward slope. Blake netted Santana and Jon Meloan. Santana was 22 and in the midst of hitting .323/.431/.563 in a breakout minor league campaign that put him on the map and landed him at the #26 spot on the 2009 Baseball America preseason Top Prospects list and then #10 on the 2010 Baseball America preseason Top Prospects list.
Another comparable is the trade that sent Carlos Beltran to San Francisco for Zack Wheeler. Beltran, like Utley, was in his age 34 season, and like Utley, was in the last year of his contract. Beltran was in the middle of a bounce-back type season where he was hitting .289/.391/.513 with 15 HR for the Mets before being traded. Wheeler was ranked #55 by Baseball America headed into the 2011 season. Wheeler, of course, is now just 23 and pitching for the Mets with 8 Ks in 11.1 IP so far and was the preseason #11 Baseball America prospect. Not too bad.
Picking a Trade Target
There have been a handful of teams loosely linked to the Chase Utley sweepstakes. But before getting into that, let's define what the Phillies should reasonably expect and target in this process. In the two most recent, comparable deals, one team acquired a piping hot 22-year old catcher who may have been a bit old for his level and the other, a noted prospect with seemingly no place to fit long term in a rotation that was stacked with talent. Is there anybody out there who fits that description from the teams most likely to pursue Utley?
Let's begin first with the Yankees. The Yankees do not have an immediate need at second base but Utley could fill in at first for Mark Texeira, who is now out for the season, or be used as their DH.
The Yankees have Mason Williams (#31), Gary Sanchez (#57), Slade Heathcott (#63), and Tyler Austin (#77). Williams, 21, is a speedy outfield who gets all of the power he can out of his 6'0″, 160 lbs frame. After handling the promotion from Charleston (A) to Tampa (A+) well last year, Williams is repeating Tampa but has not had breakout success. Sanchez, 20, is a catcher from the Dominican Republic who has 12 HR in 278 PA in Tampa. Sanchez's stock is rising and may be promoted to Trenton this year. Heathcott, 22, has not made the jump from Tampa to Trenton successfully – one of his best tools, speed, has failed him, completing only 7 out of 13 SB attempts safely. He is hitting just .237 and has struck out in nearly a third of his PA. Finally, Austin, 21, is a 6'1″, 220 lbs outfielder who is making short order of Double-A Trenton this year. After a double jump last season, Austin is hitting .275/.367/.397 with 5 HR.
Do the Yankees have any sleepers? Jose Ramirez, 23, has used smoke and mirrors to advance to Triple-A, compiling a 2.76 ERA that translates to a 4.26 FIP in Double-A to earn his promotion. While his 95 MPH four-seamer is tempting, I would avoid Ramirez. If the Phillies and Yankees engaged in a deal for Utley, I would ask for Sanchez but settle for Austin and a PTBNL.
The Orioles are another team that may fit the bill. Brian Roberts is completing a rehab assignment but in the meantime, the O's have been using a heavy helping of Ryan Flaherty and Alexi Casilla. The Orioles pantry has been wiped dry of top prospects in recent years as they have reached the Majors but there are a few names to watch out for. Infielder Jonathan Schoop, 21, has been limited to just 34 games for Triple-A Norfolk this year but is on the path (.268/.331/.386, 3 HR) to bouncing back from a rough year at the plate last year. Schoop primarily plays second base but has also seen time at shortstop. Would they sacrifice the heir apparent to second base to acquire a top tier second baseman right now? Schoop is, of course, blocked at the Major League level at both second and shortstop by Roberts and J.J. Hardy but with Roberts' health remaining a giant question mark, it wouldn't surprise me if the Orioles hopped in the Utley sweepstakes as well. Discussions with the Orioles should start and end with Schoop's inclusion.
Finally, the Toronto Blue Jays, suddenly just 3.5 games out of the Wild Card, find themselves with the 29th-worst production from second base in the Major Leagues. The Jays have gone from sure sellers to possible cautious buyers. The Jays have ran out Emilio Bonafacio, Mark DeRosa, and Macier Izturis to second this year for a combined -1.9 WAR, or a .220/.265/.345 line. Like the Orioles, the Jays are pretty bare in the top prospects department but Aaron Sanchez is a name I really like. Sanchez was ranked #65 in Baseball America's preseason rankings and turns just 21 on July 1. Sanchez is a 6'4″ lefty with a plus-plus fastball and has a 2.96 ERA in 45.2 IP in High-A Dunedin.
The Yankees, Orioles, and Blue Jays are three teams who will likely be in the thick of the Chase Utley trade sweepstakes. The Phillies, if they play their cards right, could end up with a very nice young player, but should not trade Utley just to trade him. With good health and it being the final year of his contract, Utley could net a Top-100 type prospect.
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Good write up. But, going forward, if the Phils do not trade him- do they let him just walk away for nothing ala the Wash Nats w Alfie Soriano? Or what would they re sign Chase to? Cesar Hernandez looked okay when up here for a brief stint. Freddy is good for D, but his O is lame.
Tough call. Either way I'm sure everyone will complain. Go Phils
Or we can buy and play this out.
It may be tempting, but if the team bought a RF, and maybe a starter and reliever they could be a contender in the NLeast. Utley is still a top hitter on the team and Hernandez / Galvis / Frandsen would be a down grade with Frandsen being close offensively. Looking long term, I feel Utley could still remain with the team and the team be a contender. Almost rather see Rollins traded first despite Galvis as the only true fill in. But if Utley does go at least Hernandez / Frandsen would be good players at 2nd as Galvis remain Utility IF.
But being 8 games out doesn't bode well as they likely would need to win the division as WC is likely harder.
Then if they keep Utley through the year, do they make him an offer and if he leaves get the draft pick compensation? Or just let him play the field this offseason? There is more than one way to get a prospect in return to him (or Ruiz, Halladay, Young) leaving.
I think in a deal with the Yankees we would include Ruiz in the trade since they have a need at catcher and have already been rumored to be pursuing Ruiz. So Utley and Ruiz for a return of Heathcott, Betances and a PTBNL (I would love to get Greg Bird or Ben Gamel). I know Austin is an option but Heathcott is a much better prospect, he has 5 tool potential with the ability to hit for average, power, great speed, good arm and good defense. He has had some issues of late but maybe a fresh start and a few tweaks to his game and we could have a superstar player in the near future. Betances is a player that they Yanks thought would be a superstar, well that did not happen. He is starting to become a very effective reliever in AAA (posting an ERA below 2.00 in his last 10 appearances), who could come in and give us another option out of the pen with a fastball that sits between 94-97. I think those two would make a ton of sense in a trade. However, I would prefer to retain Chase or let him walk via FA and get a pick in return.
Baltimore is a bad system and Schoop is not that great of a prospect. I honestly have no idea why everyone loves him, his tape is not great. Watch the prospect highlight on him from MLB.com the first video is him grounding out to 3rd but since the 3B makes a throwing error he is safe. Wow, could they not find any other video? He is slow and does not posses any tool that would stand out in the majors, honestly I would take Hernandez over him in a heart beat. The Orioles a better deal for us from the O's would be….Nick Delmonico, Josh Hader and a PTBNL
As for the Blue Jays I would ask for Anthony Alford, A.J. Jimenez and a PTBNL. I cannot see them giving up their best prospect in Aaron Sanchez, although if they would he would be great in the Phillies organization. .
great comment. I too would prefer that the phils let it ride and provide an offer at the end of the season so that the phils would get a pick if he were to leave. hate to see teams bust on trading a great player to get garbage in return. You're right about the Orioles farm system… anyway, I'd make a team friendly offer. if he takes it, great, he's here for the long haul and we get a declining HOF caliber player for another two years with maybe an option for a third year on the cheap. if not, we get a pick that you can control instead of taking another GM's word for it in a trade. Compare this guy to carlos beltran… since he left the NYM, he's been BETTER than he was in new york. Chase utley still has gas in the tank, but on the flip side, gotta be careful to not end up like houston after biggio and bagwell played out their time there… Houston is STILL in the gutter. tough choice.
I really wonder how interested the Yankees would be. Their primary need is right handed power to replace all the righties they've lost to injury. They may actually be more interested in Ruiz, who would be a definite upgrade to their lousy catching. Despite a lack of power, M. Young could also interest them rather than Utley, because he is right handed, hits decently if not spectacularly, is cheaper, and can also play 1st, as well as other infield poitions like 3rd where the Yanks have a need. Baltimore is most interested in pitching and has very little to trade, so I think they're out, too.
As far as keeping Utley, the Phils most likely would not get any compensation. The qualifying offer this year will be arounf $14M, and I'm really not sure they'd go that high. Tied to a draft pick, I'm not sure any other team would, either.
Pamikedc has it right, though. No matter what happens, people will complain.
"No matter what happens, people will complain."
Of course, people will complain if they trade Utley. He's probably the most beloved Phillie. Also, with this front office's track record, particularly this past off-season, why wouldn't you complain if you felt the return was insufficient on any deal. The complaints about this past off-season's Adams, Durbin, Schierholtz and Delmon Young transactions have turned out to have been warranted. School is still out on the Lannan, Revere and Michael Young transactions, but the results on those have turned out to be mediocre at best.
To even imagine this team moving Utley while leaving Delmon Young and company to become the new face of this team makes me want to puke.
Yet the brass dances with the idea of ridding themselves of the heart and brains of the team while keeping the guy who grounds into double plays, keeping the guy who pops out to the infield, keeping the guy who strikes out 3 times a game, keeping the guy who boots balls in the outfield, keeping the guy who can't throw to a cut-off man in less than three hops and a dribble and keeping a half dozen pitchers who can't keep the ball off the middle of the plate.
I wonder if that seems reasonable to Ruben.
It doesn't to me.
"No matter what happens" obviously means that if the Phils DON"T TRADE Utley they'll aqlso get complaints.
No one would be stupid enough to believe they won't get complaints if they DO trade him.
How can you say that the Orioles are a bad system. Manny Machado, Matt Wieters, Nick Marakasis are all solid pros. They got Adam Jones for Erik Bedard.
Baltimore seems like a better fit vs the Yankees prospects. Another place to look could be Kansas City.
I would rather see the Phils try to move Jimmy and resign Utley to a 2 year deal with a third year mutual option. He still can hit. This last injury was a freak injury, I think he has figured out how to handle his knees. Galvis is a solid defensive SS but if u start him you need the rest of the line up to protect his bat. Roman Quinn and Crawford seem to be the future at SS/2B. Moving M.Young should also force the Phils to call up Asche. No time like the present to see what this kid has. I dont think the young catchers are ready so moving Ruiz doesnt make sense.
You're right, those are all very solid products of the Orioles' farm system, but they've now graduated to the majors and as of now, their system doesn't rank very highly. And the news that their top prospect (Bundy) is having Tommy John surgery isn't going to help that.
You left out the part where they trade Papelbon and some cash to Detroit for castellanos. Or is that just crazy talk thinking ruben would make a good trade.
I really don't think Papelbon will net that kind of return. He was among Amaro's many bad signings. I mean, this guy is the worst GM in baseball, hands down, and has been for a few years now. It just took a while for the dedicated, but slow, Phils fans to get it.
Anyway, Papelbon's stuff is declining and he's way overpaid for the closer market. There are some desperate teams who might trade a solid B prospect for him (like the O's with Schoop), but there's no chance in Hades that Detroit would trade Castellanos for Papelbon. Maybe if the Phillies threw in a C+ type arm AND another pen arm as depth AND paid 50% of his salary that could happen. But that would require desperation that the Tigers don't currently have, a non-existent rp market, and various other elements.
I'm not ready to start selling yet, and I don't wanna trade Utley or papelbon anyway… but moving forward if we're looking to buy who is an impact player we can pick up?
The Phillies have a relatively barren farm system, at least in terms of near ready talent, so trading for players is going to be very difficult.
Unfortunately, the Phillies have let baseball's worst GM run this thing into the ground and there just aren't any realistic solutions other than to blow the thing up. Even then, you're kinda screwed. Ryan Howard's contract was the second worst extension given in the history of the sport and was nationally panned the day it was given out and the Phils are just stuck eating that one b/c he'd be a risk for another team to take on at $12 mil, much less $25 per long term.
Utley is old, should have been moved to 1b a couple of years ago to spare his knees, when the Phils should have sold on Howard but both the fan base and GM were ignorant to the obvious realities of a team in decline that needed to focus on intelligent rebuild and youth rather than sacrifice the farm to go all in on mediocre vets. As is, his value is probably less than what is suggested here. A top 100 prospect may be too much for a guy with his history, injury this season, and no long term value. You're probably looking at a couple C+ guys (players in the 200-300 range) for him. And Papelbon's contract is outrageous and with his declining talent, he's not the answer to a rebuild problem either. Cliff Lee is their only really good trade piece. He could go anywhere and get a nice package in return, again, assuming the Phils eat some cash. Obviously they'll get a better deal by eating some money and since they're going nowhere fast and are probably looking at a 5-7 year rebuild, why not pay for superior prospects.
Best thing the Phils can do is wait, pounce on the best offers given in terms of talent exchange and eat whatever amount of money on the contracts they have to in order to receive decent talent back. but buying? buying shouldn't be an option. Realistically, this team has performed exactly as expected, has too many holes, bloated payroll, and neither the prospects, money, or leadership to fix the problem in the near future.
I heard rumor the brewers were shopping aramis Ramirez anyway we pick him up and trade young, Idk if its any upgrade but he's got pop and could protect Howard or Brown…
He's hit ok so far, but both fangraphs and bb-reference agree that defense and base running have given away any value that his bat has provided so far, making him a replacement-level player.
would he be an upgrade over young though?
What about picking up Michael Morse when he's healthy to play left or right field?
Michael Morse is a blunder on defense
Better than delmon
Why aren't there more articles about why we shouldn't TRADE Utley? For starters not since MJS has there been a Phillies leader like Ut. He gives 110% regardless of his health and is still a fine 2B option. He is an intricate part of the team. Nobody can say we lose because of Utley.
WHY aren't people up in arms when these articles are almost suggesting we trade him for some prospects? Why because he is a FA? Why can't we resign him for 2 years? Do you know what happens when the core loses its best player? Good luck selling tickets too.
You want to win, first lets get some legit OF help. Let's look to find a power hitting 3B. Let's get some respectable young pieces in the bullpen and lets look to find a fair priced SP that can do what Blanton did for us in '08. I hate to say it but the players called up so far don't seem to be the answer. Maybe Ruf splits time in OF but we're still a few good years away before our good prospects take the field in CBP.
Because he's missed 214 games … since the start of the 2010 season.
of their 565 games played since then, they've been without him for 38% of them… and he's 34-years-old… and he's a Free Agent…
It's great that he plays hard. Phillies fans love him and always will. but giving it 100%, in 60% of your team's games isn't something that deserves another contract.. .when the reality is that Utley isn't guiding the Phillies to anything. He isn't the reason that we lose … but he alone isn't causing us to win, either.
It's time to cut ties with the 2008 Phillies…. time to start a new era
You can't cut ties because many of those players are still under contract or have contracts that are simply unmovable. The Utley injuries, while frequent have also been a bit freakish. Do I think he is capable of playing 145 games year in year out? No. But even if he plays the 130 that is still very good for what he gives you. Galvis, Franden or Hernandez (who I'm not sold on) can fill in. What he does give you is heart. This team has none. What he gives you is energy. This team barely has a pulse. What he gives you is smart base running and play making ability. This team rarely shows it.
There is a value there and it's not all sentimental. If you think every prospect is a Zach Wheeler then you're not realistic. He is our Jeter and sometimes you have to do the right thing and that is keep him.
Except Utley gives you more value/production in 60% of the games than any viable replacement would in 100% of the games.
Since the start of the 2010 seasons, here is a complete list of second basemen who have produced more than Utley's 60%:
Cano, Pedroia, Zobrist (if you count him as 2B), Kinsler, Phillips.
That's it. Unless the Phillies had been able to somehow pry one of these 6 (or 5) from their respective teams, they would not have improved on that 60%.
That's fine … my point is.. is anyone here willing to give Utley millions of dollars in a multi-year deal? I wouldn't … He's aging, and injury prone. If you can get him for a 1 year deal with an option, i'd consider it.. but if he hits Free Agency – you have to think there is a team or teams willing to go 2-3 years guaranteed … and I don't think the Phillies should get into a contract war with other teams over Utley.
Utley's a great player… though we could probably play sub-.500 ball without him, no?
If you're not going to contend this year or next.. what's the point of retaining Utley when you could POTENTIALLY get a young talent in return
I at least give the qualifying offer, which I hear will be around $15 M.
But I also consider something like 3 yr/ x $10M per, because 1) I think he will easily earn that, and 2) I expect to contend.
We need to resign Utley, I agree with the guy who talks about his heart and what he gives you when he is playing, We need to keep our former Champs till the youngsters can be ready to play. They are playing better since his and carlos's return
Yeah I would go 2 year 20 million with incentives with a third year option at 8 million with incentives… maybe incentives to put the total at 15 per season…
Then again, most of Chase's lost time has revolved around his knees which I suspect were victims of questionable medical opinion.
His recent DL was a disappointment but then again there have been a lot of young guys on the DL around the league these last few years and guys with giant contracts.
Dom you can't replace the entire team even if they don't advance this year. Utley is a great player to have contending or not. He isn't the problem. The problem is we have question marks and inconsistency on both ends of OF. We have a stop gap 3B who has an empty BA and loves to hit into DP. We need a power 3B finally.
I doubt many will be interested in Rollins, maybe one of the Bay Area teams but he still plays a tremendous SS. His problem is he bats in the lead-off or 3 hole and should be no higher than 7.
Phillies problems is run scoring. We lose the power we once had when we scored 5+ runs a game. We need two power bats which good OB%.
If Utley is a great player to have … then surely he would be valuable to another team, right? I'm not saying give up Chase Utley for nothing . . . . but if you can trade him for what you think is a sure-thing talent.. do it.
If Utley is surrounded by so many question marks, and so much inconsistency here… do you think that can all be figured out in the length of time you'd sign him to a new contract? I don't see the Phillies contending for at least another 2-3 years.. and I wouldn't sign Utley to a contract extension of that length. I'd see what the offers are at this year's trade deadline, and if there was a solid one, I'd accept it.
If the outfield is inconsistent, and you want to get better players, someone has to go, because this time of year you can't upgrade with free agents.
I'm with Don, here. If a viable trade comes along, you trade Utley. He'll be a free agent at year's end, and he could conceivably be re-signed then if he's still uninjured and productive.
Finding OF help, a power hitting 3Bman, better bp pieces, and cheap starting pitching…that's it, huh? They'd have a better chance of finding a unicorn and seeing what performance enhancers can be made out of its antlers. Or performing some dark magic at the graves of Babe Ruth and Cy Young.
The Phillies are finished. Ruben saw to that. He's been the worst GM in baseball for years but the Phillies phaithful were to blind to see it. Bad contract with extra years here (Polanco), second worst extension in the history of the sport there (see Ryan Howard), creating a barren farm system and there you have it. A team with no hope of success. There are too many holes and too few resources to fill them. The ONLY option is to blow it up and add some young talent while you hope the young, toolsy prospect the Phillies already have develop.
But for now, there is no hope. None. For this Phillies team. 2013 is over. 2014, 15, and 16 are as well, most likely. You're looking at a 5-7 year rebuild if you start TODAY. If the Phillies are competitive again before 2018, that's a win!
That's one rather dark, glass all-the-way-empty view.
Another is that the division is weak enough that with Hamels pitching at his career-worst, and the league's worst bullpen, they have the best record in the NL East for the past two months.
And looking ahead, the farm system is probably average, at best, but it's far from barren. And with a TV deal about to be negotiated, they would be shooting themselves in the foot if they didn't spend close to the luxury tax threshold to keep the team competitive.
That's why I don't think there will be a full rebuild at the trade deadline, no matter where they are in the standings.
@ Bob D …
From our already-thin Farm System.. who are we giving up to get a RF, SP, and RP ?
If the Phillies kept Utley, they could offer him Salary Arbitration.. essentially a one-year contract. If he accepts it.. cool . . . . he likely would NOT accept that, and the Phillies, and any other team could then try to sign Utley to another deal. If another team signed him, the Phillies would receive a draft pick for offering Utley arbitration.
I personally don't think it would be wise for the Phillies to go more than 1 year with Utley.. and I'd imagine that an AL team would easily go 2-3 … as Utley can play 1B, 2B, DH.. the SMART move in my opinion to to trade Chase at the deadline and take what you can get.
That is what the GM is for, but a team selling with an RF may take one on the AAA/AAAA/ML bullpen arms, Cloyd, Valle, OF prospect for some one. If this team goes into sell mode, Utley is one that may just be worth more holding on to for a Supplemental round draft pick (30's-40'ish) than what may be available. But who knows, maybe Detroit or someone would step up and make an offer you can not refuse. Do trade just to make a trade
I think the next week or so is crucial. If Phils can get back to .500, then I don't think they begin to sell. If they drop a lot games to Dodgers, Braves, and so on then we will see some major trade talk, no matter what Ruben says.
It really sucks, this team is back where it was last year. Although I was impressed by the bullpen last night, let's not kid, they're awful. It has cost this team numerous games this year, just like it cost the team 15-20 last year all by itself. The team has its issues, but nothing bigger than the bullpen.
The BP last night was mostly guys who were recently brought up. The real duds are on the DL, in the minors, or released now.
Not saying that means it's now a better group, but I think a few more games should seen before condemnations are made.
I would say no on Aramis the guy can barely run at this point. This is exactly what we dont need. Another older player who is injured. M. Young although old and slowing down is still healthy as far as we know anyways. They about equal offensively at this point in the season. Im not sure what they can trade or what kind of package they can make up to get that OF and bullpen help. For that matter if they get those pieces is it enough. This team often looks like they are in state of comma.
*** on CNNSI
The Phillies are a team in transition, already, and it's a matter of just how much change the franchise has in store. The Phillies certainly were sellers a year ago, trading outfielders Shane Victorino and Hunter Pence before the deadline and right-hander Joe Blanton during the August waiver period. The club's trade candidates this season are more prominent. … Yet, this isn't just about baseball. … "Our fans like the players not just as players but as people," [Phillies' CEO David Montgomery] said. "These guys have been great being part of the community. That becomes an element. There is no question. Do we factor the fan support that we've gotten into this? Yeah. Do we believe fan identification trumps winning? No."
If they deal with the Yankees I would be all over Rafael De Paula. He is playing in the futures game and I bet his status as a prospect is going to shoot up fast. I would want him included in any deal with the Yankees (not a centerpiece, but a piece)
I hate the Utley trade but thought we were in a rebuilding process. I guess it depends on Amaro, can he get the additional players to contend? If he feels he can then I want Chase on the team.
Given the upcoming TV deal, "reload" is probably a more appropriate term for what the Phillies will be doing.
Looking forward to a Quintero/Lerud catching combo Oh boy!
@George, thanks!
We sign Chase to a JRoll esque deal (3years) and like I said w my first comment- everyone complains!!
EVERYONE- face the music- she's singing!!
We are old. It's over. Time to start rebuilding.
Is their Hope?- yes!! Our President won on Hope! Will their be Change?- YES!! We can win a WC spot- bc some of these teams will fade.
BUT- playing (hope u like this PN:) "goosey-goo" every night with the 7,8 innings will get real old. Unless we some how can "create" our BP late year magic- hardly.
Utley at $15mil for 2014- is badddd. ONLY bc he is injury prone. That's obviously the only reason. And this season was a 'test' for him.
But I know that I don't have a response to anyone bc I have no clue who to trade him for.
Beat the Dodgers!!! Tough one vs Greinke tonight. Maybe we should just hit him and he can try and football style tackle us
If this season was a test for Utley, so far he is passing and earning the $15 million.
I don't see how what Utley's given us in his 50 games played (of 79 team games) is worth $15 M …
He's 10 in WAR among 2B with 200 plate appearances (he has 206), behind Marco Scutaro, Omar Infante, and Jedd Gyorko)
He's 10th in wOBA.. though ahead of Infante
5th in Fielding according to Fangraphs.
The argument to trade/keep Utley is more about the Phillies future, and the value you could get for him outweighing the value he gives you now – when the team as a whole is likely going to miss the playoffs. They'd need to win 60% of their remaining games just to get to 88 wins … and that probably still falls short of a playoff berth. 65% will win you 92 games… I haven't seen anything to make me think that this roster is capable of playing that well from this point on
I agree that he's probably not going to help this year (because the Phillies won't come close enough to the postseason), and that while I'd hate to see him go the Phillies need to listen to offers and if they're offered a quality prospect than go for it.
All I'm saying is that
1) he is still a very productive player (even with the missed time), and that he is earning the $15 million.
2) therefore it will be difficult to even replace his production
I also don't see the Phillies going into all-out rebuilding mode. With the new TV deal coming up, I believe they will trade expiring contracts, and maybe Papelbon, for prospects, but continue to try to field a contending team, so I would be fine offering him 3 x 10M to keep his production, even if it means only 80-130 games a year.
I agree.
I think where the new TV deal will help them.. is you rebuild as solid a young-core as you can … and with the extra money… you buy Free Agents at key positions. you can't BUILD a team solely around Free Agency, in large part because those players are likely to be what, 30-years-old?
Your argument that Utley is still a very productive player whose production would be hard to replace is the reason why he is a great trade candidate. If other teams read it the same way (and why wouldn't they) he has potential to bring a good return.
I don't believe it is necessary "blow it up", I don't believe everyone should be traded. But I strongly believe that every player in the organization should be on the table.
Article on Utley today at fangraphs:
@Schmenkman, why do u say that??
Not arguing it. Just curious why you feel that way. Bc I respect your posts and knowledge is awesome.
Well, I look at his production so far this year, combining hitting, defense, and baserunning, and this is what I see, even with the missed time:
1) he's been the Phillies' best position player so far
2) he's been one of the best second basemen in the NL (Matt Carpenter is the only one clearly better this year, even with Utley's missed time)
His 1.7 WAR projects to about 3.4 for the year, which would be worth more than the $15 M on the free agent market
Maybe my argument should be, if the Phillies don't have enough talent around him .. . . is it worth paying Chase Utley $15 M over the next few years … or trying to trade him to bring in young, cost-controlled talent to speed-up any rebuild
Not for 3 years…2 years w a option for a 3rd.
Agree w you @bacardipr. But wouldn't Chase want what JRoll wanted (initially) 4-5?
Def not comparing the 2 either
If the Phils are moving veterans the first thing they need to look for is a guy who can step in and man either CF or RF. The Blue Jays have a glut of OFers and Moises Sierra should be a guy they ask about. 24 years old, controllable and good for a .280 avg & 20 HRs off his AAA numbers. Maybe more by the time he's 27 or 28.
Michael Young and Carlos Ruiz- to the Yankees
Chase Utley- To the Orioles
Jonathon Paplebon- To the Tigers
Delmon Young- to the Atlantic City Surf
Trade Rollins, keep Utley..dump DYoung and Zambrano.
Sounds good! That probably nets you two C to C+ prospects from the Yankees, a B- or B type from the O's (Schoop would be a dream for the Phils, built is unrealistic), and you'd likely net a B from the Tigers. You pay whatever in salary you have to, but if you can infuse this miserable farm system with a couple of C prospects and B prospects right now, you do it. Get the ball rolling. Finish it off by trading Cliff Lee and get that A prospect the team needs to build around. He's been swapped for trash by the Phillies once, let's hope they've learned their lesson after they saw him swapped for Justin Smoak (at the time an A prospect) soon thereafter.
If the Phillies can unload everything with some value and infuse the farm with an A, couple B, couple C prospects…maybe another C+/B- guy for Rollins, they have to do it. They simply have to fire Ruben, get somebody in there who has a clue, and bit the bullet and start the rebuild. Why flounder for a few more years with a huge payroll and unwatchable team when you can start the 5-7 year rebuild right now and get the farm rebuild going. Injecting some young talent and setting themselves up for a top draft pick asap is how you do it.
BEST PLAYER ON OUR TEAM. Let's trade him.
I'd trade any player on this roster if we had a major league level GM, which unfortuantely, we don't. I've got zero confidence in Amaro after the last two seasons where not a single move has worked out. Papelbon? OK but they waaaay overpaid him and gave him too many years.
The A's would be interested I believe, but temper expectations against cited deals, there would no longer be compensation for Utley leaving the new team, and both those deals are cherry picking a little, since the prospects took big leaps forward after the trades. I know they both were less well regarded, and less valued at the time of those deals. You can also look at the Seattle Lee deal as a cautionary tale. I think when you combine the injury factor in with it all getting a top ten with upside, and a top twenty prospect in the deal, or one blocked top five would be a solid get. The fact that he only might be able to help a team with his track record health wise will hurt the market I think.
Considering that he has helped his team with at least 3 WAR each of the last two years (and trending there again this year), and that the time he missed this year was not related to his knees, I don't know that the risk that he only "might" help a team is significantly more than any other 34-year-old player who's among the best at their position.
I'd rather hold onto him and offer a QO in the offseason.
I love the part where you ask the Yankees for Sanchez. Hahaha Keep dreaming.


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Op-Ed: Deadline for public comment on Fagatele Bay
We have seen articles, letters to the editor, and full page advertisements in the Samoa News from the Fagatele Bay National Marine Sanctuary staff about the benefits of the plan; and also Gov. Togiola Tulafono has urged the public to understand and read the management plan before making 'our' decisions on one of his Saturday radio programs.
In yesterday's commentary, I brought to the attention of the people a few facts and points the Governor is missing out on addressing, which included the public meetings, the lack of guidance by principles of the fa'a Samoa, and asked the question: Why is this [proposed plan] needed?
In Part II, I pick up three more points that I believe the Governor missed out on addressing:
What protection?
There are papers online which discuss the problems with the Sanctuary program and how the law doesn't provide very good protection for fish and coral resources. The Sanctuary Act was supposed to be updated a few years ago, but never was.
So tell us why should we agree to our local waters being managed by a federal program that provides inadequate protection for our resources?
See http://www.fs.fed.us/rm/pubs/rmrs_p049/rmrs_p049_573_578.pdf (the Sanctuaries Act lacks a central focus on preservation and a rigorous process to achieve it. Congress has never defined what constitutes a sanctuary system, vaguely identifies the Act's purpose as protecting special areas of national significance, and does not outright prohibit any extractive uses.), and http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL32154.pdf - page 1
"The 110th Congress considered reauthorization of the National Marine Sanctuary Act (NMSA; 16 U.S.C. §§ 1431, et seq.) by introducing H.R. 6537 and by holding hearings, but no further action was taken. Many hold that NMSA comes closest to authorizing MPAs. It authorizes the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) to designate specific sites for comprehensive and coordinated management and conservation. However, some, especially environmentalists and many marine scientists, assert that a more comprehensive approach with stricter protection and more extensive protected areas is still needed).
There is definitely evidence here in the Fagatele Bay site, which wasn't well managed and allowed dynamiting and other destructive fishing practices for over 20 years… maybe we ARE better off with the existing local programs, and to keep our waters local. Why sign over more of our waters to the Feds?
Benefits of the Sanctuary?
There is a lot of talk about benefits to do with the culture and for education and tourism, and the Fagatele Bay Sanctuary staff are experts at education and outreach events, personal relations, and funding for equipment – but why not use these millions of dollars to help the existing local programs instead of competing with them and affecting their programs?
Not much has been done for site management and improving the resources over the last 20 years, so why expand and impact other sites, and stop local communities from managing their own resources with the assistance of the existing local programs?
There is not much mention of how the Sanctuary works with the existing programs at the Marine and Wildlife and the National Park, however there has been some evidence in comments in the paper and the public meetings about how these programs aren't working well with the Sanctuary program, even though this is a key principle stated in the management plan.
The Village Council members in Aunu'u specifically asked why the need for the Sanctuary when they are already happy to work with the local Marine and Wildlife department. There is some problem with the National Parks and the Ta'u proposal… So what is that all about???
This is a small island, where we need to work together instead of competing and causing problems for others.
Done deal?
A lot of the public comments have asked for the Sanctuary staff to take more time to review this plan, as people are not ready.
It does all seems like a big rushed job to get this plan through before the Government administration changes, as there is a lot of money at stake here.
The Head of Marine Sanctuaries told us in early 2011 that 10% of the total budget of the whole National Marine Sanctuary Program in the US was going to be given to American Samoa Fagatele Bay program for the financial year 2012. Surely they wouldn't be receiving this money if this plan wasn't already a done deal?
This money is going to secure Sanctuary staff jobs, and also some expensive education equipment, but what are they going to do to protect the resources?
We should suggest that they stick to Alternative 1: to update the management plan and improve the existing site, spend more time working with the communities if they wish to be involved in the program, but don't rush this through — behind our backs!
Editor's Note:
Out of continuing concerns raised about the proposed plan for the expansion of the Fagatele Bay National Marine Sanctuary, a group of fishermen and community members are meeting today (Wednesday, Jan. 04, 2012) at 3 p.m., at the Fagatogo Market Meeting Room. It is hoped that a group public comment can be submitted by the deadline, Friday, Jan. 06, 2012, to express issues raised during this meeting, as well as other concerns.
Also there is a Sanctuary Advisory Council meeting being held today at 1 p.m., which will be attended by the SAC members from the different agencies and community representatives. It is open to the public — therefore anybody who wants to sit in and listen, and if there is time, get the opportunity to comment, should attend. It is assumed the meeting will be held at Dept. of Commerce conference room, however, Samoa News has been unable to confirm as of press time.

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La historia transcurre en el Sur de Estados Unidos en 1964, año de la lucha por los Derechos Civiles. Aislada en una finca, con un padre frio que no la cuida, Lily Owens, muchacha de catorce años, ha pasado gran parte de su vida echando de menos a su madre Deborah, quien fallecio en misteriosas circunstancias cuando ella tenia cuatro años. Para empeorar la cuestion, su padre T. Ray le dice a Lily que ella mato a su madre sin querer. / Sue Monk Kidd's ravishing debut novel has stolen the hearts of reviewers and readers alike with its strong, assured voice. Set in South Carolina in 1964, The Secret Life of Bees tells the story of Lily Owens, whose life has been shaped around the blurred memory of the afternoon her mother was killed. When Lily's fierce-hearted ""stand-in mother,"" Rosaleen, insults three of the town's fiercest racists, Lily decides they should both escape to Tiburon, South Carolina--a town that holds the secret to her mother's past. There they are taken in by an eccentric trio of black beekeeping sisters who introduce Lily to a mesmerizing world of bees, honey, and the Black Madonna who presides over their household. This is a remarkable story about divine female power and the transforming power of love--a story that women will share and pass on to their daughters for years to come.
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Sue Monk Kidd is the author of three novels, The Secret Life of Bees, The Mermaid Chair, and, most recently, The Invention of Wings, which will be published by Viking in January 2014. The Secret Life of Bees spent more than two and a half years on the New York Times bestseller list, was adapted into an award-winning movie, and has been translated into thirty-six languages. The Mermaid Chair, a #1 New York Times bestseller, was adapted into a television movie. She is also the author of the memoirs The Dance of the Dissident Daughter, When the Heart Waits, and, with her daughter Ann Kidd Taylor, the New York Times bestseller Traveling with Pomegranates. Her early writings on spirituality are collected in the book Firstlight. The recipient of numerous literary awards, Sue lives in southwest Florida with her husband, Sandy, and their black Lab, Lily.
SUE MONK KIDD is the author of two memoirs, The Dance of the Dissident Daughter and When the Heart Waits. She received a Poets and Writers Award for the story that inspired novel The Secret Life of Bees. Her fiction has appeared in several literary journals and two of her stories—including an excerpt from The Secret Life of Bees—were selected as notable stories in Best American Short Stories. She currently lives in South Carolina.
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Suspect wants confession tossed
ST. JOHNSBURY A Vermont man charged along with his wife in the killing of a St. Johnsbury teacher is asking a judge to exclude a detailed confession he gave police from his upcoming trial, claiming he didnt understand what he was doing when he waived his right to silence.
The attorney for Allen Prue made the arguments in papers asking a judge to suppress all statements Prue made to police in March 2012 in the days after Melissa Jenkins was abducted and killed.
Defense Attorney Robert Katims argued that Prue was deceived into waiving his right to silence.
A reasonable person would not conclude that further questioning was to take place, let alone hours of interrogation, said the motion.
Allen Prue, 32, and Patricia Prue, 35, face kidnapping and first-degree murder charges in Jenkins death.
Allen Prue reportedly gave the lengthy confession at a Connecticut River boat launch near where Jenkins body was found.
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Methamphetamine Use in Vermont
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Production and use of methamphetamine is still uncommon in Vermont. However, recent news about meth labs in Franklin County underlines the potential danger for individuals and communities. The drug, which is injected, smoked, snorted, or sometimes swallowed, is highly addictive. Following is information on the health hazards, signs, symptoms and treatment for methamphetamine use or exposure.
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The chemicals used to produce or "cook" meth for distribution can result in toxic fumes, vapors, and spills. Exposure to low levels of some methamphetamine ingredients may cause headache, nausea, dizziness, and fatigue. Exposure to higher levels may cause shortness of breath, coughing, chest pain, dizziness, lack of coordination, eye and tissue irritation, chemical burns to the skin, eyes, mouth, and nose, and death.
Some of the ingredients typically used to manufacture methamphetamine may irritate the skin, mucous membranes, and respiratory tract and affect the central nervous system through inhalation or contact with the skin. Chronic exposure may cause cancer, damage the brain, liver, kidney, spleen, and immune system, and birth defects. Hepatitis A and C, E. coli, HIV and sexually transmitted diseases are additional health outcomes associated with methamphetamine homes due to unhygienic conditions, needle-sharing, and unprotected sexual activity.
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A child living in a home with a methamphetamine lab may inhale or swallow toxic substances or inhale the secondhand smoke of adults who are using methamphetamine – or be accidentally injected or pricked from discarded needles or other drug paraphernalia. A child can absorb methamphetamine and other toxic substances through the skin following contact with contaminated surfaces, clothing, or food or become ill after ingesting chemicals used to make the drug.
The inability of methamphetamine-dependent and methamphetamine-manufacturing parents to function as competent caregivers increases the likelihood that a child will be accidentally injured. Baby bottles may be stored among toxic chemicals. Hazardous methamphetamine components may be stored in 2-liter soft drink bottles, fruit juice bottles, and pitchers in food preparation areas or the refrigerator. Ashtrays and drug paraphernalia (such as razor blades, syringes, and pipes) are often found scattered within a child's reach, sometimes even in cribs. Infants are found with methamphetamine powder on their clothes, bare feet, and toys. Children and small babies may also be malnourished since methamphetamine users will sleep for days following a several day binge. Children in these situations may also experience skin rashes and other symptoms from not having a diaper change in days. Any home with a methamphetamine lab in it is considered a toxic area for all who live there.
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Normal cleaning will not remove methamphetamine and some of the chemicals used to produce it, which can remain on eating and cooking utensils, floors, countertops, and absorbent materials. Toxic byproducts of methamphetamine manufacturing are often improperly disposed outdoors, endangering children and others who live, eat, play, or walk at or near the site.
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The ingredients used to make methamphetamine are dangerous and toxic. Users who often stay high for several days don't eat and rarely brush their teeth. Tooth decay on tooth surfaces that most people would normally brush is not uncommon. Methamphetamine also causes the mouth to dry out, leaving no saliva to help clean the teeth.
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The Filibuster
The distance between the plate and the mound, like the distance between
home and first is….Perfect. Can you tell me what else is perfect
about this game? And Bud Selig aside, can you tell me what you think is
imperfect about our grand game?
Good to hear from you, Mike. And great question. You pretty much nailed it with your opening statement since so much is perfect about the game of baseball. We complain about Bud Selig and you can bet that won't end anytime soon but then we marvel at how the game still overcomes his idiotic decisions.
Baseball is a system of artistic arithmetic. The diamond is a perfect square meaning you always know how far you have to go to advance. A pop up traces a parabola off the bat and it peaks halfway between home plate and its landing pad. Hold the seams one way while pitching and the ball curves, change the angle a little and it drops like a rock.
But artistry relies on intangibles. Yes, the ball follows a parabolic curve but you have to hit it first to make that knowledge worthwhile. How do you as a manager decide when the curve ball isn't curving enough or the sinker isn't sinking enough and it's time to pass the ball to a reliever? Stealing on a slow curve makes that 90 feet much more manageable than trying to grab an extra base on a 97mph fastball.
Intangibles make mutation a necessity and mutation leads to evolution. Hitters get stronger but pitchers find a ch!nk in the armor. Small market teams can't compete for big stars so they introduce new metrics that allow them to define a player's "true" worth. A fickle audience demands more offense so one league introduces the DH. These are all elements that show a sports based sense of natural selection.
Like any system or organism, though, there are diseases and imperfections. Strikes sour our outlook on the sport and scandals test our immunity. It's hard being a fan of a team that just isn't competitive and shows no hope of turning that around. Yet somehow we make do and despite these imperfections, or maybe because of them, we love the game even more. The
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The sport of baseball is perfect. It's only MLB that has problems. And I thought nothing sucked-*** more than the snuggie..
'Minoring In Baseball'
I always thought 60 feet 6 inches was kind of an imperfect number, although not as bad as the 127 feet 3 and 3/8 inches from home to second. Ya … every other dimension, I'd say Perfecto.
I wore one of those walking sleeping bags once during a musical production of "Jurassic Park", I played the dino poop.
I loved this post. I think you should send it to Bud. Maybe it'll remind him of the things that don't need "improvement."
Baseball Darwinianism. I love it guys. You guys do a lot of justice to the grand game of baseball. The ol' Greeks tried explaining everything through mathematics. I wonder how they would have liked baseball. Or, is the attraction of naked olive oil wrestling just too much for baseball to conquer? I wonder.
Dino poop!!!!


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Skip to comments.Snowe makes it official: She will seek a third Senate term
Posted on 12/14/2004 6:03:56 AM PST by SheLion
PORTLAND, Maine -- Erasing any potential doubts, U.S. Sen. Olympia Snowe told a Maine Public Radio call-in program that she intends to seek a third term in 2006.
"I am running for re-election," Snowe said Monday. "It's sort of early to announce all that, but people have asked me so I obviously want to make sure that people know that I do intend to run for re-election."
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Are there any conservative Democrats in ME who could run against her?
Need a RINO hunt!
Lord only knows!
Snowe is the first one to step up to the plate. I haven't heard any wheels turning of those that might run against her.
I'm sure if any of them read FR, someone will go up against her, since it's plain how most of us in Maine feel about her.
The only reason she announced her candidacy this early was to hopefully preempt any conservative challenge from within the Republican Party.
"You know, I'm going to start thanking
the woman who cleans the restroom in
the building I work in. I'm going to start
thinking of her as a human being"
Once someone achieves public office in Maine it takes a crowbar to get them out.
Better than the alternative.
That's probably her intentions. Kinda like "I dare ya!"
I wish she would change her party. She isn't fooling anyone~
Lots of us. I wonder if any of us would like to take up the gauntlet.
And some people wonder why I am all for term-limits! Just can't get rid of these people.
Every time I hear a news story on a Senate vote and the reporter says X amount of GOP Senators voted with the Dems I know which way Snowe and Collins voted.
LOL. Good question.
But an even better one is why can't we find a conservative Republican to run against her in the primary?
We gave Specter a little scare with Toomay . . . maybe we've learned enough to make a successful run at Snowe. If nothing else, if we can make it close . . . damn close . . . maybe she'll feel more like a "team player" after the election.
I'm a proud Texan . . . but if we learned anything in this past election it's that other states' elections have a profound impact on ALL OF US. I'd gladly donate to a conservative Pubbie to run against Snowe, Collins, McCain, etc.
And that's a fact!
Yeeooww! No more of that 'til after I've had my first drink...
I said that tongue in cheek.
We have enough problems in Florida keeping the
greatest "give me everything generation" from bankrupting the state.
I was of the opinion that stalwart men and women would step forward and fill these needed positions. Not anymore.
I'd say let the "American experiment" denigrate, until there is no choice but to get back on track, but with the "wolves" of the world at the door we would be eaten alive.
Better than the alternative, eh?
Like death by lethal injection is better than a firing squad?
I don't care a diddle if the dems run a ressurected Joseph STALIN against her, she isn't going to win thanks to this jaded Yankee's vote.
Not that she'll ever need it, of course.
She has incumbancy for life if she wants it, and any "Republican" who wants to mount a primary challenge against her WILL be hung out to dry by their own Party, so they'd better have lots of independant resources handy.
They might as well run as a third party or independant as try to beat Snowe within the Party that she pretty much owns in this State. Heck; it worked for KING, didn't it?
Just bring LOTS of money.
And good luck!
I cannot believe she survives the primaries.
Re your #11:
"Are there any conservatives Democrats in ME ?"
YOO-HOOOO!!!!; Over here!
Any more of us left alive?
Re my #28 - The text I copied and pasted had "Democrat" crossed out.
I ain't that, but I darn sure am Conservative and proud of it, too.
Of course if a rational common - sense old style Democrat like the Senator Zell MILLER ran in Maine, I might be tempted.
Shucks; "W" is no real prize to the Conservative cause, despite what the lamestream media whines about his "extreme right-wing fanaticism" - but he ain't all that bad, I don't suppose, and he sure beat Hanoi KERRY by a country mile!
Neither O'SNOWE or COLLINS ever saw an abortion, tax, or Clinton that they didn't like, I reckon.
Maybe it's that Jack Lord hair thingy she's got going.
We're lucky we have a RINO in Maine, a blue state.
Snowe and Collins are surely operating under the influence of a malevolent spirit. If they weren't in politics, they'd be earning a nice living on a psychic hotline. Not much difference anyway. They both look as though they would quickly revert to a more witch-like appearance. There is something about them that is rather unsettling and occultic.
Maine needs an exorcism. And I haven't even mentioned Baldacci and his ilk...
The Rats must love her in this state. :(
"Any more of us left alive?"
I don't think so. At least the ones of us
left remaining pretend to be "moderate". That keeps the hardiners from being shipped off to the re-education camps. ;)
Like Senator Simmons would be better than Senator Dodd.
Vote for Snowe, send your dollars to the like of Coburn and Burr.
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Stony Brook Rolls to Win over Denver
from press release
The Stony Brook women's lacrosse team scored four goals in the
game's first seven minutes and went on to defeat the Denver
Pioneers 11-7 Sunday afternoon at LaValle Stadium. Senior Melissa
Cook (Bay Shore, N.Y.) led the Seawolves with three goals, and
freshman Alyssa Cardillo (Farmingdale, N.Y.) led all scorers with
four points (one goal, three assists).
The Seawolves improve to 2-1 on the season and notch a win against a team that had begun the 2011 season nationally ranked (No. 20 in the Inside Lacrosse preseason poll). The Pioneers drop to 0-4 on the year.
Less than 30 seconds into the match, Stony Brook's Victoria Cable (Oakton, Va.) took a pass from Cardillo and put the ball past Denver goalie Ashley Harman. That sparked a five-goal outburst in the match's first 11:31. Samantha Djaha (East Islip, N.Y.), Trish Molfetta (Carmel, N.Y.), Abby Ford (Baltimore, Md.) and Kaila Gottlick (Madison, Conn.) all followed with goals to put the Seawolves on top 5-1 and force Denver to switch goalkeepers.
Denver got the deficit down to three, 7-4, by halftime, but the Seawolves came out with three more goals in the second half's first 10 minutes. Cook, Djaha and Tara Gerstacker (Manorville, N.Y.) all tallied goals to put Stony Brook up 10-4.
Denver made it 10-6 with a pair of goals, but Stony Brook received a great effort from keeper Mickey Cahill, who made 10 saves on the day, including three towards the end of the match and one on a free position attempt. Cahill saw a lot of action today as Denver attempted 27 shots, outshooting the Seawolves 27-16. However, Stony Brook had a better percentage of on-goal shots; 14 out of 16 Seawolves shots were on target.
Stony Brook will return to the field Saturday, March 5, as it
hosts Johns Hopkins at LaValle Stadium at 1 p.m.
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Ali Landry Rocks A Black Bikini In Maui & Takes In Some Paddleboarding
Actress Ali Landry had some fun in the sun Friday as she took in some paddleboarding in the idyllic waters of Maui, Hawaii.
The 5'8" former Miss USA, who gave birth to son Marcelo last October, added to the Hawaiian heat in a little black bikini.
Ali's been vacationing in the Aloha State for the past week and showing off her sexy body on the beach in Wailea, where she's been staying at the Four Seasons Hotel.
"Just had amazing time paddle boarding," she tweeted afterward. "It is such a hard workout. My legs are like jello right about now:)."
Ali and her husband of six years, director Alejandro Monteverde, took surfing lessons together earlier in the week.
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Tag: Teaching high school kids about money
Kids, the DOL and financial literacy
- 10:53 pm Saturday, April 20th, 2013 by Dian Vujovich
Keeping in the April is Financial Literacy Month theme, here is some good news for parents who hire their under 18-aged kids plus info on a free financial literacy program from the Department of Labor (DOL).
Escaping all of the long arm tax consequences of Uncle Sam's tax system takes some doing. But if you are a small business owner— like a sole proprietor or have an LLC— who has kids she'd like to employ there are tax breaks available that will surely increase your financial literacy acumen. And, even save your business a couple of bucks.
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Brazilian Leaders Take Conciliatory Tone Toward Protesters
By Lourdes Garcia-Navarro • Jun 18, 2013
Originally published on June 18, 2013 1:18 pm
Protests have erupted in Brazil over the past week. On Monday, there were tens of thousands of demonstrators on the streets of cities across the country. And again on Tuesday, demonstrations have continued. Unlike in Turkey, Brazil's leaders are adopting a conciliatory tone.


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It appears a Madison woman's Halloween costume for her pug is going viral.
McKenna Ihde entered her dog, Tottie, into Petco's costume contest, and the pictures are spreading like wildfire over the Internet.
She dressed up Tottie as the wrecking ball from Miley Cyrus' music video. The costume includes a naked doll riding the wrecking ball, just like the video.
The picture has already hit national morning shows and even viral sites like Buzzfeed.
If Tottie wins, there could be a $25,000 grand prize. To vote, go to Petco's Facebook page.


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What is in this article?:
- Farm bill expires, planning for 2013 in limbo
- Rippling effect
• While expiration of farm bill program authorities has little or no effect on some important programs, it has terminated a number of important programs and will very adversely affect many farmers and ranchers, as well as ongoing market development and conservation efforts.
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Oct. 1 was the first day of the 2008 farm bill's expiration.
Agriculture groups marked the occasion with a series of statements underlining the importance of new farm legislation for rural America. Democrats marked it by scolding House leadership for not bringing the legislation to a vote since it was passed out of the House Agriculture Committee in early July.
(To see details of the statement from the farm groups, see Farm groups address expiration of 2008 farm bill).
"While expiration of farm bill program authorities has little or no effect on some important programs, it has terminated a number of important programs and will very adversely affect many farmers and ranchers, as well as ongoing market development and conservation efforts," said a joint statement released by, among others, the American Farm Bureau Federation, the American Soybean Association, National Corn Growers Association and National Council of Farmer Cooperatives.
The group said in the absence of a new farm bill the main challenge "will be in planning for 2013. This includes lining up the critical financial assistance needed from lending institutions which prefer, if not demand, to see business plans presented in black and white. That will be difficult when producers don't know when to expect a new farm bill — or what type of financial safety net is likely to be included in that bill."
For full farm bill coverage, see http://southeastfarmpress.com/farm-bill-2012.
Striking the same chord, Michigan Sen. Debbie Stabenow, chairwoman of the Senate Agriculture Committee said, "It is unbelievable we're in this position now where the farm bill will expire and create so much uncertainty for farmers, ranchers, and small businesses."
The expiration, said Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack on Monday (Oct. 1) afternoon, will quickly impact "many" programs administered by the USDA. "I think it's important for folks to know that there are a number of programs — very important programs — that expired, or are frozen, absent Congressional action. There are deep concerns about the uncertainty this has caused for producers."
Speaking from Wisconsin, Vilsack said residents of the state "are well aware of the fact that the dairy industry will no longer be able to take advantage of the MILC (Milk Income Loss Contract Program.
"I have particular sensitivity to the dairy industry because it's been under a great deal of stress and pressure. The last thing it needed was for Congress to leave town early, not get its work done and put these producers in a position where they no longer even get the MILC payment, which may have been very significant for a number of producers facing difficult situations with their profitability being impacted by high feed costs."
While dairy producers may receive a check, or two, after Oct.1, "that's because of what they were entitled to receive prior to (the farm bill expiration). … If a dairy producer has an FSA loan and was counting on the continuation of MILC, that producer will probably have to go into an FSA office and see if there's any way of providing some latitude."


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Collaborative Costume Concert for Conservation Scheduled for October 25
Halloween will get an early start at Fisher with the Costume Concert for Conservation, an educational and entertaining event that will take place on Thursday, October 25, from 6:00-8:30 p.m. in the Campus Center Mainstage. The event is being sponsored by the Biology Club.
The event will feature a costume contest, raffles with huge prizes, and refreshments. Admission is free, but attendees are asked to bring plastic bottles to recycle, and will receive one raffle ticket for every 20 bottles they bring. Those who attend in costume will get three raffle tickets. Prizes include Wegmans, Cheesecake Factory, and Barnes & Noble gift cards, along with a bicycle donated by the Basilian Fathers.
Music will be performed by Big Tuna and the Fishermen, the faculty and staff group.
Attendees will also learn about their own carbon footprint as educational and informational booths will be set up throughout the event. The booths were created by students and faculty and address a number of environmental issues including water and electricity conservation, pharmaceutical disposal, commuting, and recycling, to name a few.


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A rare and intimate glimpse into the dynamic process of creating and launching new plays, Playwright: From Page to Stage follows two outstanding young playwrights through the writing, development, staging, rehearsal, and public performance of their plays. Over the course of three years, the dramatic parallel journeys of Rajiv Joseph and Tarell Alvin McCraney unfold, from the time their work receives development funding until the riveting climax, when one of the productions makes it to Broadway with Robin Williams in a leading role. From acclaimed director Robert Levi, Playwright: From Page to Stage premieres on Independent Lens, hosted by Stanley Tucci, on Monday, December 16, 2013, 9pm on KCPT.
When the film begins, McCraney and Joseph are fresh talents bursting onto the scene, both having written probing new plays depicting society in turmoil. Young, black, gay, and from Miami's inner city, McCraney has an unusual background for mainstream American theater. His Brother/Sister Plays, a sprawling coming-of-age trilogy set in a fictional black Louisiana community, reflect not only his own life experiences, but also the social and cultural realities of America's underclass.
Joseph is a quiet but charismatic young Indian-American from Cleveland who traveled to Africa for a three-year stint in the Peace Corps after graduating from college. His Bengal Tiger at the Baghdad Zoo is a phantasmagorical exploration of war-torn Iraq, seen through multiple sets of dual perspectives — Americans and Iraqis, soldiers and civilians, animals and humans, men and women, the comic and the tragic, the living and the dead.
With extraordinary access at every step, Playwright: From Page to Stage brings to life the intense collaborations and emotionally charged process that takes place when teams of writers, directors, actors, and producers pool their talents. Intercutting between the two plays, the film goes backstage to reveal the drama and conflict leading up to their opening nights. Will these productions succeed and move to larger venues? Or will these promising productions close, leaving unrealized dreams behind?
From bare-boned rehearsal halls to regional theaters to Broadway, Playwright: From Page to Stage captures the arduous challenges — and ultimate triumph — of these controversial new works and the playwrights who created them.Visit the Playwright: From Page to Stage companion website (http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/playwright), which features information about the film – including an interview with the filmmaker – plus links and resources pertaining to the film's subject matter. The site also features a Talkback section for viewers to share their ideas and opinions, preview clips of the film, and more.


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The first project begins at Interstate 37 and extends three miles to U.S. 281 in Three Rivers. The project consists of widening the existing roadway to accommodate a continuous center turn lane.
The traveling public should expect intermittent lane closures.
Weather permitting, this project is estimated to take six months to complete.
The second project begins at U.S. 281 and extends west for about 10 miles to the McMullen County line. It involves widening the existing roadbed, which will be done intermittently on opposite sides of the road.
When the project is complete in about 11 months, state Highway 72 will be re-striped and will afford traffic passing opportunities.
Statistics show traffic increased more than 200 percent at state Highway 72 and U.S. 281 between 2010 and 2012.
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The referee had his own rule changes.
Not once did I see a Batley player play the ball correctly yet, the ref deemed this ok - absolutely rubbish!
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"I have listened to Catholic Answers Live for many years now. The show is informational, inspirational, faith building, and funny. I have been in the process of conversion for many years, and now at age 60, I will be joining the Catholic Church. The show and speakers have been my tutor and guide, and I am deeply grateful to all."
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Ant Love From an Ant Nerd
A few weeks ago, this ant nerd traveled to the wilds of Arizona to pick up two ant colonies. Yes, myself and Leslie Gordon (the Museum's live animal queen), drove over 1000 miles in under two days to bring a few hundred ants back to the Museum. Why?
Our new harvester ants, Pogonomyrmex rugosus,
taking down a wax worm!
Well, these ants are for display in the Museum's new Nature Lab exhibit, which is opening this June. That's right, we're going to have a live colony of harvester ants, a.k.a. Pogos (the ultra cool, ant nerd way to refer to this ant genus), inside the Museum!
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Wallypalooza: The End. (No. Really! Wally swears!)
Wallypalooza founder Wally Miles (left), and local comedian Waylon Whiskey
OK, so local promoter Wally Miles has been saying each Wallypalooza spectacular he's put on for the past couple of years has been the last one. He readily admits that it's sounding more and more like a KISS farewell tour every time he does so.
But this one, he promises, is it. And I have a feeling he'll stay true to his word on this one. After all, Blount County's answer to "Van Wilder" is headed to school this fall for — what else? — marketing, and he's already put together some bangin' shows at The Thirsty Turtle Pub and Grub, 2641 U.S. Highway 411 S. in Maryville.
Speaking of, that's where the next (and FINAL! REALLY!) Wallypalooza is taking place on March 1 and 2. Without further ado, here's the lineup:
Friday, March 1: Christopher Scum … Better Daze … AfterLife … Joe Coe … Belfast 6 Pack … Divided We Stand … Scent of Remains
Saturday, March 2: Rebel Mountain … Catalyst … Big Trouble … Shallowpoint … Indie Lagone … the Michael Gunnz Band … Crome Molly.
The start time is 7 p.m. both nights; admission is $5 at the door. Given that this Wallypalooza is scaled back to only two nights, we suggest getting there way early, for several reasons: One, it's going to be PACKED, and second, you don't want to miss the opening acts … particularly on Friday. It's a point of honor for me that Wally's booked Christopher Scum to open up Friday's festivities; the guy's a legend in the Knoxville music scene and a hell of a songwriter. (Click here to download and listen to "Fifty Acres," an unflinching look at a pretty damn horrific childhood. And yes, it's autobiographical.)
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Grateful Dead
Family Dog at the Great Highway, San Francisco, CA 4/18/70 - SOLD OUT
Is it the Grateful Dead? Well, in name, no, but in music and personnel, heck yes! We're very pleased to present a rare, unknown recording of the Grateful Dead from April 18, 1970, at the Family Dog in San Francisco, a show that was played entirely acoustically. Once a Record Store Day-only vinyl release, we have made this available as a CD exclusively on dead.net.
So, what's the deal with this show, and this recording? In May, 2013, Mountain Girl called to say she had a few reels of Grateful Dead music and wanted to return them. They turned out to be from 1970 and 1971. Jeffrey Norman quickly backed them up, and we were able to check them out. Sure enough, this was music we'd never heard before, nor knew it even existed. One of the coolest things in this small stash was the 4/18/70 tape. We knew the Grateful Dead shared the bill this night with Charlie Musselwhite, and the NRPS, but they billed themselves as Mickey Hart and His Heartbeats, and Bobby Ace and His Cards From the Bottom Of The Deck. What the tape reveals is that they played just one set, an 80 minute acoustic opus featuring some expected stuff from the era, plus some shockers.
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in the mail yesterday...way earlier than I expected...still waiting on DaP8
not sure what the fuss is all about i ordered today and got a confirmation .. don't see any where that says anything about back orders ... still in pre-order mode .. all ok
I just got one off eBay as a BIN for 30 bucks. I thought eBay would have a ton of these up for auction by now, it's 4:43pm EST & as of now there is only 1 up for bid. I checked a little while ago & there are 35 DP 8's available & only 1 4/18/70. Is it that limited or that good?
I guess this is the part that people are missing. The vast majority of releases in the past few years have been "one time events" Sure, they could continue to print thousands of copies, house them in anticipation of selling them or they can run a lean operation, knowing their sales, knowing their costs and moving onto the next project. I like this model because it is providing us with a consistent stream of product with a variety to pick and choose.
I have seen the posts on other threads and you are correct, they are getting pretty tense. Not wanting to create any more, just hoping that people will start to find the rhythm of the current scenario.
I am sorry, but you are comparing one time events with limited seating to a product that can be replicated hundreds of thousands of times. If people are bummed because they did not get a copy, I understand.
The complaints about this incident are pretty tame compared to other threads like DaP's.
My disclaimer again, I got a copy. It's arriving today. However, I still feel for the folks who thought they did not get a copy. Fortunately, the sell out was not accurate.
I will apologize up front if anyone is offended by the following...
This release was prominently announced in the Almanac which was sent out via email and available on Dead.net. It was at the same time as the 2014 DP subscription. There was no mystery and no deception. I am guessing many of us ordered both at the same time. Granted, the website and the shipping process are a little messy. In this case, Family Dog arrived 3 weeks PRIOR to the original shipping date. Win some lose some. To those who missed out (if this is indeed truly sold out), too bad. Not sure when you were on the bus or which coast you were on, but back in the day, getting tickets to shows was a chaotic, exhausting process of guessing on-sale dates, sleeping on side walks and tickets selling out 20 minutes after the doors opened . After a while, the pattern sank in, aided later by the mail order system, etc. So with this in mind, the current pattern has been pretty steady for a couple of years. Just look at the current system as the East Coast tour schedule. You will start to sense the new releases before they are posted. Check dead.net regularly, open and ready any kinds of newsletters and almanacs, don't hesitate to order. As Eileen Law said steadily for many years "Thank you for calling and stay in touch!"
just wondering if this also means that the 17th and the 19th were also among the tapes that were returned.
On me too; just ordered!
Once SOLD OUT is now available AGAIN!!! A GREAT BIG THANK YOU to TPTB!!!!!!! Ordered NOW!!!!
A day late, with a fist full of dollars. More, PLEASE!
Hoping for a great 1971 release this year from the returned tapes! I don't know what it is about '71, but I really love it. It's not the typical jamming I love; it's the band in a retooling phase. But, the playing is so solid with great energy.
I'm listening right now, sounds really nice. You can tell its an old recording, but it still is classic Grateful Dead. Jerry sounds really sharp on FOTD. The crowd in the background sound really calm, little did they know they were becoming part of Deadhead history. The band is chattering a lot to each other, fussing at Bear. Big Thanks to all involved in getting this out to us heads. Please keep it coming.
Looks like mine is due to arrive at my house tomorrow. Hopefully since no promise of limited editions was made, TPTB will be persuaded to press more.
A show like this should not be limited. I am fine with unlimited copied being pressed. Leave the limited for the RSD vinyl release.
That sucks! The only way I found the link at first was through the Almanac. Someone on the DaP thread mentioned already ordering theirs. If that person had not have posted that, I would never have known. Then, I've found it through the Store>Music tabs.
Absolutely ridiculous that members did not get an email or even a headline on the home page.
I feel for you and hope all are able to get a copy. If not, there's always Black Friday RSD for the vinyl...
That's life. I can wait until the 29th.
I'm told by the GD Store C/S Line that the item is indeed sold-out and to call back after the 11/29 back-order date. You'd figure that after dumping $thousands at the on-line store to help support Jerry's kids (et al), they'd at least give their loyal customers a shot at the pre-order!
WTF? I've been on the site mailing list forever and always get the notices for pre-orders! Why didn't I hear about this until I found it by accdent here? It's already sold-out? I haven't missed a release yet!
I ordered this last night, didn't notice if it said Sold Out then or not but I got an order confirmation. Order status today is "Backordered," expected ship date 11/29. So maybe there was some initial production run that's getting shipped out, but hopefully they're still making more.....
So cool that this music that's been dormant all these years is suddenly now shared with the world. Thanks, Mountain Girl! And David, Jeffrey, and whoever else....
looks to be sold out, mine is out for delivery today. nice!
My tracking number is working, and mine is on the way. I expect it to reach me by week's end.
Helpful hint: The actual delivery is through USPS, so the tracking link does not work for these orders if you chose standard shipping. If your tracking link isn't working, try copying it to the USPS tracking website.
I called Dead.net this morning to find out. The Rep told me that it arrived early, so they shipped it. My copy should arrive today. They never said it was limited, but many have learned the hard way about that, better order today. This will be a cherry on top of DP8 that arrived yesterday. Great month for us Heads.
Is this shipping now or on 11/29? I was going to wait to order it the Monday of Thanksgiving week however if you kind folks are getting shipping notices already I'll order it Tuesday AM. Like I said in an earlier post I'm an impatient one I'll order it Tuesday AM & get it Wednesday PM. If I order it online at 7AM EST, dead.net gets the order at 4AM PST, so the 3 hour difference guarantees true next day delivery. I'll have it by noon Wednesday. It just doesn't make sense to me to get a shipping notice 25 days BEFORE the release date. Is anyone else out here Deadland confused as I am? Please send Help on the way. HAPPY MONDAY, DEADLAND!!!!!!!
A solo Pigpen mini-set! With unheard songs!
Susie-> Candyman should be really sweet, too.
I also received a shipping notice very cool! too much dead music coming in, DaP#8, this release, Crimson, and several more Europe 72s just ordered, yikes!
Please post a few songs for a listening party. Thanks
I received one, too.
Already received my shipping notice for the Family Dog CD. Thought it would be another month. Excellent!
yes you will get an e-mail from dead.net with a link ... i got mine yesterday !!
i'm with you, this is gonna be a great treat and the beginning of an exciting month !
Really psyched about this one! I love the Dead's acoustic stuff, really will never have enough. Looking forward to the 30 Days of Dead soon. Nice to have so much great tunes coming our way. Listened to Dick's Picks Vol.19 today. The Mind left body jam>Morning Dew is awesome. Have a happy safe halloween. Wish I were going to show tonight. Being a responsible parent has drawbacks, it all comes together in the end. I bet WP, Phish will give a big nod to Lou Reed tonight.
I hope this show is in that stash of lost, now found tapes. The 1st set Smokestack> Truckin looks quite interesting, I bet it sounds interesting, too. It doesn't exist on the archive. HAPPY THURSDAY, DEADLAND!!!!!!!
This is very, very cool.
Is there going to be another 30 Days of the Dead this year?
Really looking forward to listenubg to this one. I wanted on cd because it makes it so easy to put it into my itunes and on my ipod. I am also going to by the record because records are the best way to listen to rock & roll at home. Rock was made to listen to this way.
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