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Agent D.
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Re: FFXIV 2.0 - Holy Shit!?
Reply #15 on:
October 16, 2011, 02:25:45 AM »
I look forward to more bullshit lines of sweet talk from square enix, followed by a full announcement of the cancellation of ffxiv.
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Re: FFXIV 2.0 - Holy Shit!?
Reply #16 on:
October 16, 2011, 06:21:02 AM »
Yeah, it sounds like you haven't followed many MMOs since you played XI at launch, Farron. Pretty much every MMO, including XI to a degree, has changed so that players of all kinds can get some enjoyment out of it, because that's what's expected out of them now. XI's still at the annoying end of the MMO spectrum, however.
But since GW2 is being brought up, there are actually 2 really big things off the top of my head that the game is bringing to the table- the Dynamic Events and No Tank/DPS/Heals. The idea behind Dynamic Events did start a bit in Tabula Rasa, but GW2 takes it to a totally different level from the sound of it, with impromptu parties and such. The No Tank/DPS/Heals is probably the biggest thing is boasts, since it will assumedly eliminate wait times for group content.
And thanks to the idea behind Dynamis Events and content scaling, they won't need to make certain areas confined to certain levels like pretty much every other MMO does, which means exploration can feel more like exploration once again...they don't want to put flying mounts in the game because they want to preserve the scale of the areas, but at the same time, you won't feel obligated to go a specific part of the map if you just want to log in and do some quick quests and level up and such, and you wouldn't need to in order to experience potentially different content.
I'm not too sure what XIV's planning on putting out for show other than pretty graphics. Actually, Farron mentioned "making the game look better than it is", which is funny because that's what a load of other companies do when they're promoting their game, and XI was actually pretty mild by comparison in that regard. I remember Vanguard having all the settings turned up to maximum when they were showcasing the graphics of the game, when any normal person running the game would have it look like a complete piece of crap. Not that it needed any help in that department with the animations it boasted.
At any rate, if they offer another beta for 2.0, there won't be any trap, because you can just try the game before deciding to buy it or not, anyway.
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October 19, 2011, 06:43:11 PM »
Quote from: Parn on October 14, 2011, 10:43:13 AM
They really should just call it Final Fantasy Online when they relaunch the game with 2.0. Keeping FFXIV in there will hurt it the same way Guild Wars 2's name is hurting that game. ArenaNet is having to work extra hard trying to get people to give it a chance simply because of what the first game was and the gaming community's inclination to believe that this sequel will be more of the same just by name recognition. I don't think the numbered titles carry as much weight as Square thinks, and a rebranding would go far.
I'll be watching, but I'd be lying if I said I was optimistic. I have serious doubts that they'll meet that timeline, basically creating a whole new game and releasing a PS3 version, all in the span of a year or so. We'll see if they can pull it off.
How is ArenaNet having to work extra hard? What gaming community are you referring to? It seems like the only reason final fantasy games still sell is BECAUSE of their title. Not really sure where you are pulling your facts out of. Well, I'm kinda sure, but I rather not say.
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Reply #18 on:
October 19, 2011, 07:44:06 PM »
The two arn't even really comparable because Guild Wars isn't a video gaming household name like Final Fantasy is, so GW2 isn't going to sell on brand name alone- but it is going to take convincing to get people who weren't interested in the first game to look at the second one, because people will assume something in the same series is more of the same.
In this case though, it is somewhat comparable because the name FFXIV is already a bit infamous in the MMO community. Naming it something completely different wouldn't hurt.
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October 20, 2011, 03:42:57 PM »
Great interview with Yoshida here:
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Reply #20 on:
October 20, 2011, 09:45:41 PM »
Quote from: Danku on October 19, 2011, 06:43:11 PM
How is ArenaNet having to work extra hard? What gaming community are you referring to? It seems like the only reason final fantasy games still sell is BECAUSE of their title. Not really sure where you are pulling your facts out of. Well, I'm kinda sure, but I rather not say.
First, drop the passive aggressive crap. If you're going to say that I'm pulling it out of my ass, don't be a gigantic pussy about it and just say it straight up. I can handle internet insults, I promise.
Second, it was never meant as a comparison in the manner you took it. I am aware that Final Fantasy is a household name that sells a lot. But it's not a meaningful point because Final Fantasy XIV is an already released title, and one that sold poorly with a
negative stigma currently attached to it. My point is that rebranding the game would help it have one less layer of negativity against it from the get-go, because most folks won't even look at Final Fantasy XIV a second time no matter how much Square Enix improves it for 2.0, all because of how shitty the game was at launch and the reputation it has developed.
In the case of Guild Wars 2, this forum itself is a small but perfect example of a game community where people have very recently been surprised by what Guild Wars 2 has to offer, having mostly ignored the title based off of knowledge of the first game. One of the first Guild Wars 2 threads around here was started by Tenchi two years ago, and the first thing anyone said in response was about Guild Wars 1 and how it was boring. The thread had absolutely nothing to do with Guild Wars 1, but that's the first freaking thing anyone said. Beyond that, no discussion. I posted a new Guild Wars 2 thread a few months ago with some new footage and still no one really seemed all that interested in talking about it. Just another typical MMO, ho-hum. D-Rider's recent thread posted what was mostly old (but good) information that ArenaNet gave out a long time ago, and it has people asking questions such as "is there a consistent overworld this time?" ArenaNet has screamed that the game has a persistent world from the hilltops and people are still asking that question. They keep going over the same old tired questions over and over again in interview after interview because they are fighting against Guild Wars 1 prejudice.
The comparison is over the negative stigmas based on the current titles of each game. You may claim that I'm pulling it out of my ass, but all it would have taken is a quick look at the latest Guild Wars 2 thread and the FFXIV thread on this forum to see what I'm talking about.
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Re: FFXIV 2.0 - Holy Shit!?
Reply #21 on:
October 21, 2011, 09:45:04 AM »
I'm going to have to agree with Parn on this one, you really can't make an accurate comparison since both situations are vastly different. Also, the FF name doesn't hold as much weight as it once did, FFXIV was really the capstone to a franchise that was struggling with fans and industry alike. FFXIII sold very well, but was critically panned to the point where they're using FFXIII-2 as a springboard to save face over the major complaints with the first game. GW2 has an uphill climb because it's going to be a very different game than GW1, and not alot of people had much knowledge or interest in the game due to its predecessor.
SE's challenge is going to be transmuting an albatross into a swan. The cat is out of the bag, and while the PS3 market is untapped, the game is fucking kryptonite to potential subscribers. All the progress they've made with the game so far isn't going to convince the vast majority of players who have heard nothing but horror stories of its launch. Them announcing 2.0 with an emphasis of it being a NEW game was probably the smartest PR move they can do right now. If they can deliver on their documented outline and actually "rebrand" the game, people will flock to it. Most of the people who bought the game at launch are pretty stoked about 2.0, and that's a tough crowd to woo after being burned so badly.
ArenaNET has to get the GW2 name out there and sell the game to the public through media, TV spots, etc. Right now, people still don't know too much about the game, and outside of major conventions, there hasn't been any saturation of press coverage. They need to take a page out of RIFT's playbook. That game came out of nowhere, but it was advertised all over the damn place a month before launch and it sold like mad. They also push specials every month, with free weekends every couple months. They even have an update content schedule that is remarkably fast. I can't really comment about the quality of the game, but the marketing and PR management is fucking brilliant. ArenaNET needs to be aggressive with GW2 marketing and PR or they will fail, no matter how good their game is.
I do have a slight correction though. FFXIV did have a decent showing at retail during its first week of sales (~160K units worldwide) that plummeted RAPIDLY after the first month, and stayed down for a long time. What's surprising is that looking over the sales figure of the game, *if* VGchartz can be believed, the current worldwide total sales are over 500K now, with the strongest showing in NA after launch is having been since the introduction of the instanced raids. If they retain even 20% of that, they'll be on par with XI's current playerbase. From personal perspective, since the announcement of 2.0 I have seen ALOT of players coming back to the game. Time will tell if or when the honeymoon will end, because 13 months is an eternity in this industry.
On another note, a couple of really interesting topics have come up in the official forums that I thought would make a good topic of discussion here.
1) The general consensus is that it's too early to start subs in the game's improving, but still incomplete, state. Some people are suggesting a discounted rate till 2.0. Since Yoshida states the game is halfway where they want it to be, many feel that paying a reduced rate of $6-7 month would be a great way to retain subscribers and improve relations with their disenfranchised players. The other side of the coin is that others are stating going from a reduced rate to a full rate when 2.0 hits is going to create backlash and can delay the completion of their project even further. They believe that the potential increase in subs from a decreased rate wouldn't offset the loss of funds from a full-pay model. Then there are those who think people are cheap and will cry and moan since they've had it free for so long. Thoughts?
2) The general English player base can't stand the effeminate look of the male Mi'qote in the concept art. The popular poll has more masculine felines with manes akin to Rei from Breath of Fire:
or the Thundercats (sans spandex). We know how popular the bishy dudes are for the Japanese, but what are your thoughts?
Agent D.
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Agent Bewear.
Re: FFXIV 2.0 - Holy Shit!?
Reply #22 on:
October 21, 2011, 02:46:57 PM »
My thoughts are if Rei were to appear in the next ff game, i'd buy it on that note all by itself.
In all honesty, i will probably play this on ps3 just because. I'm still a ff fan deep down, no matter how much i make fun of or bitch about its recent entries. Personally, i just wish they'd make a good game just so i can stop bitching about them.
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Reply #23 on:
October 21, 2011, 05:13:59 PM »
My thoughts are already known about point 1, so on point 2: the game is a lost cause in the west as far as trying to compete with the likes of The Old Republic, Guild Wars 2, another WoW expansion, and so forth. Having effeminate catboys in their MMO is unlikely to deter fans who are interested in the game in the first place, and having macho beastly catmen wouldn't bring most western players into the game. They may as well stick with what they've got in the concept art.
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Reply #24 on:
October 21, 2011, 07:20:15 PM »
Haha remember when FFXIV first came out and included "friend passes?"
You couldn't download the client from Square-Enix. They expected players to physically share the fucking disc.
What a joke FFXIV is.
Agent D.
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Agent Bewear.
Re: FFXIV 2.0 - Holy Shit!?
Reply #25 on:
October 21, 2011, 08:02:18 PM »
Parn, i suggest filing a claim on Final Fantasy Online, as if SE has any serious brain function left, they'll adopt this title quite fast.
Posts: 2366
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Reply #26 on:
May 09, 2012, 09:12:00 PM »
Rather than shit on the other topic, I'll post my latest thoughts in here.
Reinstalled the game, tried it, uninstalled it about 30 minutes later. It's improved, but when an unoptimized beta client for Guild Wars 2 looks, feels, plays, and runs far better than Final Fantasy XIV does after all this time, it's pretty eye-opening. I can see how they're slowly turning this game into FFXI-2, and that's cool but... they should've waited until 2.0 before trying to bring people back. The engine that this game is currently running on is so fucking terrible, it's even worse than I remember. SWTOR and all of Hero Engine's shittiness runs infinitely better than Final Fantasy XIV. The game feels like you're running through mud at all times. I don't know how I tolerated it before.
Square made a big mistake. Again, I seriously think this was a terrible time to try to bring people back. They sure as hell didn't win me over. I'm out, again. Back to waiting for Dragon's Dogma and more Guild Wars 2 beta weekends.
RPGFan's MMO Junkie
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May 10, 2012, 08:40:50 PM »
Totally agree with you on the engine. Some areas it runs great, others it just chugs, even on a good machine. Engine aside, the game has come a loooong way. I think that for people who expect it to play like a newer MMO will be disappointed. The gameplay is way too slow, but as an evolution of XI it's spot on. For alot of people that's what they want. Here is hoping 2.0 gets an infusion of modern.
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Reply #28 on:
May 10, 2012, 08:52:48 PM »
Isn't the engine the same as FFXIII's? FFXIII-2 showed that really isn't a great engine for more open areas, seems like that effect would be compounded in an MMO.
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Reply #29 on:
May 11, 2012, 01:38:37 AM »
I played FF11 online and I rather liked it. It wasn't like the regular series in gayness imo so...
I'm curious about this one. I'll look forward to the reviews.
Looks like I'd need a hell of a graphics card and rig to run it tho.
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The Internet is better than Santa Claus: You can get whatever you want, you don't have to wait all year, and, unless child services repeatedly missed your house, you definitely couldn't ask Santa for porn (which is weird when you're talking about a hairy man who's famous for having a huge sack and an unbelievable excuse for sneaking into people's houses while they're sleeping to make them happy).
"Why do you think I keep a naughty list?"
While most Christmas things are presents for the kids, cartoon Christmas episodes are presents for the parents: They're the only sure way to get the kids to just sit down for a bit, sweetie, Mommy and Daddy are very tired. Which may be why parents in the 1980s didn't notice that their kids were watching solid crazy.
4Christmas Comes to Pac-Land
A cartoon about Christmas coming to an arcade game ... that's something an alien pedophile would make when it found out that it couldn't get a hu-man van-driving license. It's a random smashing together of concepts aliens have heard that kids like without understanding any of them. If you shot the TV executive responsible in the face, it would reveal a robotic skull bent on harvesting the innocent hopes of children for profit. And that would still be a better kid's story.
It features Pac-Man throwing away small white balls. That's how badly wrong it gets Pac-Man.
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Hanna-Barbera knows less about enjoying video games than Martin Luther. It's so aggressively anti-Pac-Man that even his house didn't have straight edges. At one point they cut out to a top-down view of the ghosts chasing Pac-Man, and do so in big sweeping curves instead of taking the one and only and obvious chance to look like the game. Only one member of the staff had ever even seen a picture of a maze, and he's still lost in it. When the writer of this trash was told "Pac-Man," he started cleaning out his desk, and no one noticed that he was missing.
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The series even ruined other cartoons by featuring voice actor Peter Cullen. We always technically knew that people only worked on these cartoons for money, but listening to Optimus Prime make Santa say "Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good CHOMP"? That's like finding out that the magical night when your mommy met your daddy was for $10 and only resulted in you because she was too drunk to turn over.
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The Smurfs aren't just a cautionary tale about the hazards of inbreeding -- they're a guaranteed cure for nostalgia. Take the most ardent '80s child you can find and force him or her to watch an episode, and it'll go from Smurfing blue to A Clockwork Orange. The show is animated proof that kids are idiots. We'd have watched the health and safety instructions of senior citizen suppositories if they came as cartoons.
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And it would still have been better than the movie.
The Smurfs' Christmas Special was appalling, and not just because they sing the goddamn theme song twice before anything even happens. (Note: Smurf singing should be higher on the fictional Geneva Conventions than Borg assimilation.) A pair of children are lost in the woods, and their very existence turns the entire series creepy. We see that the Smurf village and Gargamel's hovel aren't even 10 minutes from the local town, which means that Gargamel isn't an evil wizard out to plague a magical race of beings: He's a homeless man shivering in an abandoned ruin and nobody gives a shit about him. And even on Christmas day, everyone is perfectly content with the crazy old man dying alone.
"Why won't anyone help me?"
It explains everything -- his ragged robes, how he's constantly talking to his cat, and all those "magic potions" he's brewing? That's how my subconscious would deal with drinking cooking wine and lighter fluid, too. Gargamel is constantly tormented by beings no one else can even see, and society's mental health plan is "just hope his killing urges stay targeted on imaginary things."
Those "magic symbols" are clearly smeared in his own fluids.
Oh, and in this episode he gets into child slavery and sells his soul to Satan.
It doesn't go well.
Pictured: not well.
The episode ends with the No. 2 Worst Ever Way to End a Christmas Episode: deus ex cantates. They defeat the devil by singing at him. It's even worse and lazier than when the Care Bears do it, because at least the bears care enough to use more than one color.
This is how animators dare people to fire them.
They just sing at the bad guy and he fades away. That is not how carol singing vs. flamethrower fights normally go (just ask my parole officer). The Smurfs are just so good and defenseless that everything works out for them. Which is an even worse lesson for kids than "Men who sneak into your house at night are there to give you nice things."


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Jesus was asked by some listeners to address the issue of sin and its consequences in the light of two current disasters that befell the residents of Jerusalem. The first occurred in the temple at Jerusalem. The Roman governor of Jerusalem at the time, Pilate ordered his troops to slaughter a group of Galileans who had come up to Jerusalem to offer sacrifice in the temple. We don't know what these Galileans did to incite Pilate's wrath, nor why Pilate chose to attack them in the holiest of places for the Jews, in their temple at Jerusalem. For the Jews, this was political barbarity and sacrilege at its worst! The second incident which Jesus addressed was a natural disaster, a tower in Jerusalem which unexpectedly collapsed, killing 18 people. The Jews often associated such calamities and disasters as a consequence of sin. Scripture does warn that sin can result in calamity! "Though the righteous fall seven times, and rise again; the wicked are overthrown by calamity" (Proverbs 24:16).
The real danger and calamity which Jesus points out is that an unexpected disaster or a sudden death does not give us time to repent of our sins and to prepare ourselves to meet the Judge of heaven and earth. The Book of Job reminds us that misfortune and calamity can befall both the righteous and the unrighteous alike. Jesus gives a clear warning – take responsibility for your actions and moral choices and put sin to death today before it can destroy your heart, mind, soul and body. Unrepentant sin is like a cancer which corrupts us from within. If it is not eliminated through repentance – asking God for forgiveness and for His healing grace, leads to a spiritual death which is far worse than physical destruction.
Jesus' parable of the barren fig trees illustrated His warning about the consequences of allowing sin and corruption to take root in our hearts and minds. Fig trees were a common and important source of food for the people of Palestine. A fig tree normally matured within three years, producing plentiful fruit. If it failed, it was cut down to make room for more healthy trees. A decaying fig tree and its bad fruit came to symbolize for the Jewish people the consequence of spiritual corruption caused by evil deeds and unrepentant sin. The unfruitful fig tree symbolized the outcome of Israel's unresponsiveness to the word of God. The prophets depicted the desolation and calamity of Israel, due to her unfaithfulness to God, as a languishing fig tree. Jeremiah likened good and evil rulers and members of Israel with figs that were good for eating and figs that were rotten and useless (Jeremiah 24:2-8). Jesus' parable depicts the patience of God, but it also contains a warning that we should not presume upon patience and mercy. God's judgment will come – sooner or later – in due course.
God, in His mercy, gives us time to get right with Him, but that time is now. We must not assume that there is no hurry. A sudden and unexpected death leaves one no time to prepare to settle one's accounts when he or she must stand before the Lord on the Day of Judgment. Jesus warns us that we must be ready at all times. Tolerating sinful habits and excusing unrepentant sin will result in bad fruit and eventual destruction. The Lord in His mercy gives us both grace and time to turn away from sin, but that time is right now. If we delay, even for a day, we may discover that grace has passed us by and our time is up. If we hunger for the Lord's righteousness and holiness, we should and must take our sins to Him every day. The time could be running out!


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Hashirama and Tobirama
Minato and Shikaku (I think they are the same age so they have probably been teamed up before.)
Originally Posted by D3A
The smartest 2 man team is obviously Shikamaru+Itachi
i had stated in the topic that these two can't be on the same team
Kakashi and Itachi would be a dangerous mind
Shikamaru and Kakashi
Kakashi and Shikaku
Shikaku and Shikamaru(Father son combo sounds good)
Shikaku and Minato.
what about rikudo sennin and itachi?:D
Itachi and Minato would be the best team because they are strong AND smart. But in terms of pure intelligence I'd rather have Shikamaru and Shikaku. I'd have them take care of the army from an HQ but have guys like Itachi and Minato and Kakashi out there on the field leading the men and forming strategies on the fly.
Naruto and Sasuke
Random combos that would be interesting...
Now that you mention it, there are alot of teams where one member is brilliant or at least strategic, and the other is kinda dumb.
Deidara/good boy tobi
Itachi/Kisame(not stupid, but a bit of a tool around Itachi)
That said, Naruto and sasuke did well against Zabuza.
jiraiya and orochimaru
Itachi Uchiha and Hiruzen Sarutobi (prime)
Sarutobi lived a very long life and knows a lot of techniques also having ways to counter them.
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naruto and killerbee - - lools
shikamaru + itachi (auto open eyes = auto genjutsu.. OR that mind transfer girl with her eyelids kept open genjutsu the other dude whilest hes in her body
SO6P and the "younger son" would be the best team.
But from my personal armada I'd say Naruto/Sasuke. If they could give a Jounin a run for his money when they just got out of the Academy imagine what they could do now...
naruto and sasuke at their current status would kick ass as a team if only the story was a hell lot more different
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Naruto and Sasuke
Originally Posted by JackSpicer
naruto and sasuke at their current status would kick ass as a team if only the story was a hell lot more different
true, would b tough to stop them
shikaku and shikamaru LOL
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KENW-TV, the area's local public broadcasting station, produced a special called Choosing Happiness After Divorce.
The special will air at 2:30 p.m. Sunday.
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In 2004, the Illinois General Assembly and Governor Rod Blagojevich created the Grow Your Own Teachers Act. To date, $4.5 million has been appropriated to implement the program statewide. Ten consortia — or partnerships of community organizations, four-year higher education institutions, schools or school districts, and community colleges — have received support from the Illinois State Board of Education to launch Grow Your Own Teachers initiatives.
Grow Your Own Illinois has four distinct goals — to reduce teacher turnover in low income schools; to increase the numbers of teachers of color; to prepare teachers for hard-to-fill positions; and to increase the cultural competence and community of teachers. The initiative is spearheaded by Illinois ACORN.
Five of the consortia are in Chicago and one each is in the South Suburbs, Springfield, East St. Louis, Quad Cities, and Rockford. Together, these consortia have recruited 395 non-traditional candidates — active parents, community members, and paraprofessionals — who live and work in low-income neighborhoods and who want to become teachers. Eighty-eight percent of the candidates are people of color. The program will provide forgivable loans and supports to help the candidates become highly qualified teachers who will teach in the low-income schools where they live.
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Western Digital maintained its leading position on the market of hard disk drives (HDDs) in terms of unit sales in calendar Q3 2010, based on recent financial reports from WD and its arch-rival Seagate. Although the gap between the two companies shrunk, the leadership of Western Digital is pretty evident. While Seagate still posted higher revenue, WD managed to become more profitable.
In the third quarter of calendar 2010, WD shipped 50.7 million of hard disk drives, about 1.5 million more than Seagate, which supplied 49.2 million HDDs. In Q2 the difference between the two companies was 2.9 million units, while in Q1 the gap was just about 800 thousand of drives, according to financial reports of the two world's largest manufacturers of hard disk drives.
Thanks to a large portion of enterprise-class hard disk drives among Seagate shipments, the company claimed higher revenue than Seagate, however, thanks to lower costs of manufacturing, WD succeeded in earning more than its arch-competitor. Seagate Technology reported revenue of $2.7 billion, gross margin of 20.4%, net income of $149 million and diluted earnings per share of $0.31. Western Digital reported revenue of $2.4 billion and net income of $197 million, or $0.84 per share.
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Moratorium removed from wind billBy John Dillon
Vermont Public Radio | February 27,2013MONTPELIER Senators have removed a proposed moratorium from legislation regulating large-scale wind projects.
But the bill would now require that wind developments be judged under the full criteria of Act 250, the states main development review law.
Both sides of the wind debate are disappointed in the latest version.
Act 250 says developments must conform to local and regional plans. So Sen. Robert Hartwell, D-Bennington, said the new version of the bill will give towns and regional planning commissions more control over wind projects.
We felt that towns were not adequately represented in this process and the regional commissions were virtually absent, he said.
Hartwell is chairman of the Natural Resources Committee and was a lead sponsor of the bill that originally called for a three-year moratorium on ridgeline wind projects.
As the bill went through multiple rewrites, the moratorium was shortened to less than a year, then removed.
I think its based on all the testimony and all the evidence we received, Hartwell said. I dont see the need to have a big, long moratorium to accomplish what were going to accomplish.
Wind projects are now considered by the Public Service Board under a statute that has parallel language to many of the Act 250 criteria. But the PSB review has one significant difference. The board can approve projects over local opposition if it finds that they promote the general good of the state.
Sen. Peter Galbraith, D-Windham, pointed out that the Windham town plan bars ridgeline wind, yet the PSB recently approved wind testing equipment for a potential project. Galbraith said he believes wind developments should be reviewed as any other major commercial development.
I have no problem with wind projects, he said. What I object to is imposing a large project on a town that doesnt want it, and with an utter disregard for the effect it has on the people of the town.
The Senate Natural Resources Committee discussed the bill the same day the Castleton Polling Institute released a new poll showing strong support for wind development. The poll based on 620 interviews found that 69 percent of those surveyed favored wind projects in their own communities.
Gabrielle Stebbins is the executive director of Renewable Energy Vermont, an advocacy and trade association. She said the poll demonstrates that Vermonters want more wind development. And she said the bill is a bad idea, because under the Act 250 criteria, regional plans could effectively impose a veto.
Its all a question of whats in the best interest of the public good. If every town in Vermont says we dont want to look at this stuff, where are we at? she said. We dont want fracking. We dont want tar sands pipeline. We dont want wind. We dont want solar because thats not pretty either. We dont want biomass. Where are we at? We have got to figure out how to work together and move forward to get to a clean, resilient energy economy.
Project opponents were also dissatisfied with the latest draft of the bill. Matt Levin is with Vermonters for a Clean Environment, which has spoken out against several wind proposals. The group backed a moratorium so the state could assess the impact of existing projects.
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MARSHFIELD Alfred Mickey ORourke, of Marshfield and formerly of Lyndonville, passed away Sunday evening, Dec. 30, 2012, at Central Vermont Medical Center with his wife, Betty, and son Michael by his side, at the age of 77.
He was born in North Orange, Mass., on March 7, 1935, the son of Alfred J. and Hazel (Bacon) ORourke Sr. Upon graduation from Grafton High School in 1954, he enlisted in the Navy and served during the Korean conflict.
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why does it take kakashi so long to get ms if he killed rin????
Originally Posted by Yo pappy
This ^ Kanabi Bridge is near the Hidden Stone Village, and that is as far from Kirigakure as you can get. wtf
As far as the chapter goes, meh. No surprises here, just another cliffhanger. I'm sure this is all some sort of mistake anyway, we all know Kakashi wouldn't purposely kill Rin.
My theory is that Rin was a spy or a mole. That, genjutsu on Kakashi, or a Genjutsu on Obito.
Originally Posted by Zerofnaruto
I rate this chapter a 5! Becuase WTH it was one hell of a plot twist! Din't see it comming, but feel like its a part of madaras plan..... There are a lot of theorys, one is that it was two zetzus that he saw, bascily a trap in brainwashing obito to following madura. Another is that rin betrayed the leaf village or is a spy....... kakashi still cryed when he stabed her in the chest......One of mine is that kakashi was trying to touch rin's boob, but forgot that he had chidori on! she died, just for laughs. But seriously...I hear that maybe the ninja that kakashi and rin were fighting were acualy zetzus..... and then in the confustion, kakashi acidently stabed rin with a chidori though her chest. Comon guys, we all know kakashi from day 1.... why the hell would you lose respect for him? Remember he died from fighting pain..... the only one who was even able to take 1 of the 6th paths of pain down before he died by the main pain.... So we know he woun't just straight up kill rin without no dam reason! please try to think outside the box insted of the same theroys again and again.... or use these theorys and explaing it in a diffrent way......
Well, actually, yeah....... It could have been from the confusion of the battle. Obito said you "let" Rin die. That's probably what he ment.
Im pretty sure It was not an accident. Look at kakashi's face. It was not an "oops" face.
I believe it's just a massive Plan by Madara. He was so sure that Obito will be back. Hints that he has something to do with that.
Also, Obito says Kakashi "Let" Rin die and not "killed" Rin. So whatever it is, Obito, and we for that matter, will find out.
Kakashi was a regular Sasuke wasn't he? lol Anyway, Madara had something to do with this so people, quit getting your panties all in a bunch. Either genjutsu, Zetsu clone, or maybe Rin did betray the leaf. Whatever the reason, can't wait to find out!
Originally Posted by bender
why does it take kakashi so long to get ms if he killed rin????
good question
Originally Posted by Kayloblaze
What if Rin was a traitor giving info to the Mist? Wouldn't that be just a total mind ****. I can't wait from answers next week!
But he regrets killing her. I think he did it by accident and couldn't see cause of the mist... maybe? I'm screaming over here:
"Why, WHYYYYY!!!!!!!!"
Why does everyone assume that Kakashi should change his mask? He can keep the same darn mask if he wants.
Also, it could be a momento to remembering Obito's "death"
Guys guys guys calm down. I'm sure this can all be explained easily. Obviously Rin told Kakashi that he could feel her up and Kakashi got over excited. Accidentally using Chidori is like premature ejaculation to Kakashi.
kakashi was crying so he had to kill her or it was a mistake. The fourth told him not to use the chidori anymore he was to fast and it was imperfect. Should have listen kakashi should have listened
you forget that Kakashi's chidori was perfected after he recieved a sharingan
Pandering. That's what this chapter is, pure and simple. This is one of the worst chapters I've seen in months. What was it, 16 chapters of Obito doing nothing and just running around, and then one provocative image that's going to be the cliff-hanger for the next week? It's the most blatant piece of audience manipulation and suspense-manufacturing that I've seen in this manga, maybe since Itachi "magically" appeared in the fight against Danzo (right before the manga went on a two-week break, no less).
So we're left with the image of Kakashi, a good guy who recently learned the hard lesson of protecting one's friends, killing an innocent and unarmed Rin with a stab through the heart.
AND we know that Obito was there. He witnessed the whole thing. But history tells us that he didn't reveal himself to Kakashi, or ask what the motivation was or anything like that. This leads to a handful of bad options:
1) This scene was real (probably influenced by genjutsu or mind-control), in which case Obito is a hypocritical loser and Kakashi is some kind of monster or maniac. Obito must have seen the death of Rin and simply turned around and gone home without so much as questioning why this happened or what Kakashi was thinking.
2) The scene was staged (by zetsu clones or the transformation jutsu), but Obito just gave up, turned around and went back to the cave without seeing the truth and without asking Kakashi why he did what he appeared to do.
3) This scene is fake, and Kishi showed it to us at the end of a very boring chapter just to manipulate our emotions and make us eager to see the chapter next week where, hopefully, something real happens.
If that's the real Rin and Real Kakashi, there must have been some kind of genjutsu or weird misdirection going on that confused Kakashi into doing it. If that's a fake Rin it could be a transformed Zetsu or a transformed mist Ninja. In that case, where the heck is the real Rin (and how did she really die?)? And if that is the real Rin, and she's actually about to die, why doesn't Obito rush down there and try to use the same exact Hashirama/Zetsu goup to save her life as was used to save his?
I mean, here's the big problem: We KNOW that Obito is on the battlefield, and we KNOW that Obito has attached to his body a substance that allows a person who should be dead to still be alive. So, if Rin is really going to die why doesn't Obito try to save her life? And, in the process, why doesn't he expose himself to Kakashi as still being alive and well?
This chapter is making me extremely angry. I sincerely hope that the next chapter is better, because they can't get much worse.
All staged by Madara.. Clones.....
Ok, wild thought.
They were attacked by Hidden Mist. They got desperate. Rin told Kakashi to kill her in order to upgrade his sharingan and give him a chance to escape.
It would explain all these things Kakashi has been saying about comrades on the first few episodes of Naruto.
I really wanna believe that Kakashi had a good reason for doing this if he was voluntarily doing it.
that was probably kakashi under a genjutsu, or maybe they did the same thing that Hanzo did to Nagato, Konan and Yahiko... i would say, 1 of them had to kill each other in order to 1 of them stay alive, so Rin told Kakashi to kill her.... Or i would say the white Zetsu thats attached to Obitos body messed up his mind.... when Pain attacked Konoha he killed Kakashi, at his last momment he was saying he was sorry cuz he couldnt save his sensei, Rin and Obito, and that now he was going to meet them in the afterlife, if Kakashi killed Rin cuz she was a traitor, he wouldnt say that....
why didnt my earlier post show?
I think hat in obito's vision it was zetsu pertending to be attacking rin, then kakashi comes from behind tries to chidori zetsu but he goes into the ground and he accidentely hits rin that's why he's crying
Originally Posted by radienx000
Nah. Kakashi probably thought Rin was an enemy due to the mist - he couldn't see properly. Oh wells. It kinda sucks as to why Obito is what he is now. I wish Rin didn't die so Obito wouldn't have to be evil =(
This is the most sense anybody has made in a while. Do I see a God of War reference? :shrug:
To me this week was kinda lame, I guess it was necessary but still, some of it was pointless!
Everyone knew it was gonna be Kakashi that killed Rin...
where the **** is minato to Save the day!??
Like Super Minato.. is the superman version of naruto.......
Minato where are you!, having fun with kushina?
That would be possible, but the main problem would be that the White Zetsu wouldn't be able to copy Obito's other Sharingan. Since Obito had linked vision through Kakashi before he saw Rin, its definitely Kakashi.
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The new group, called Reel Editions, is a literate, unorthodox new discussion group for participants in their 20s and 30s. While attending, individuals will have the opportunity to gossip about edgier films and favorite books, or chat in-depth about TV shows and videogames.
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Where are the women?
Why we must include half the world's population in accounts of human existence
By Ellen Snortland 03/11/2014
The people who got February designated as Black History Month in 1976 deserve big kudos. Broadcasters, banks, even carwashes have gotten on the bandwagon.
Awareness that March is Women's History Month? Not so good for women of all colors.
Even conscientious women and men who are focused on social justice are often unaware that March is an annual event that pays tribute to women who have changed our world. Indeed, women have always changed our world. However, as the quote of unknown origin — and commonly attributed to Winston Churchill — goes, "History is written by the victors." That is somewhat of a big, fat "duh," and was probably originally said by "anonymous," the appellation usually belonging to a woman.
Many of my longstanding readers are aware that I am the voice that pipes up every year with, "Where are the women?" "What are you doing to commemorate Women's History Month this year?" "Why would you care about including women and girls in history at all?"
Let me tell you why I think you need to care about including half the world's population in our accounts of the history of human existence. First of all, it's the polite thing to do. To exclude the history and accomplishments of half the world — the female half — is to perpetuate disrespect, marginalization and violence against women which diminishes all of us, including the male half.
As the author of "Beauty Bites Beast," and now the upcoming book "The Safety Godmothers" co-authored with Lisa Gaeta, I have immersed myself in the world of violence prevention. Although I am against violence toward anyone, I am particularly appalled at the rates of violence aimed at females: over the course of a lifetime, one in three women will be attacked by a man! I see the entrenched belief that men and boys are superior to women and girls as one of the core causes of this violence.
One of the many ways we continue to regard men as better than women is to exclude women from our historical accounts and, by extension, our entertainment and news. We need more Joss Whedon and Lake Bell types in Hollywood. After all, a lot of our stories come from history. And today's news is tomorrow's history. How is this linked to violence? If women's stories are ignored and forgotten, "she" appears to be less than a "he" and not as valuable. If we only value a "her" for her sexuality, and disregard her contributions as a person beyond her gender, it's an easy slide toward treating her badly.
As it is, by pinning a female's inherent value on her decorative potential and femininity — sexy, nice, innocent, or easy to coerce — it's basically like hanging chum on her back and waiting for the sharks to bite. Our young women are damned if they do want to be sexually regarded and damned if they don't. Meanwhile, we as a society put a lot of energy into making our girls behave like "ladies," which is a euphemism for "passive." What is more passive than chum? We have many societal ways of making our boys more masculine — unfeeling, forceful, superior, demanding; in other words, ruthlessly active. Do we really wonder why so many of our boys rape and torment others? We celebrate the "sharks" among us in history and in our entertainment and continue to dangle women and girls as bait.
If you're tired of this, you can help bring Women's History Month into its rightful place on the March celebration calendar, and I'm just the gal to help. I am a Goodwill Ambassador for the National Women's History Project. nwhp.org. Go there and you'll get a snootful of activities. Meanwhile, here are just a few of the March activities we have going on locally. I would love to see you at some of them!
Ray Eames in the Spotlight (To May 4) — Ray, the female half of the famous Ray and Charles Eames team, is highlighted at the Pasadena Art Center College of Design. For hours and information, visit williamsgallery.net/ray.
YWCA Pasadena Visions of the Past, Inspiration for the Future: Women of the Civil Rights Movement (Ongoing through March) — A special photo gallery of women who made a huge difference. A special appointment must be made to see photos by Boyd Lewis. Contact Jessica Kubel, community relations manager, (626) 296-8433, or via email at firstname.lastname@example.com.
Women's History Month Party (Thursday, March 13) — I will be a guest speaker at the event, which is from 7 to 9 p.m. For details and tickets, visit 5050Leadership.org
She Had a Dream (Saturday, March 22) — A free special Women's History Month event at the Allendale Branch Library curated by me and featuring a screening of filmmaker Jennifer Lee's "Feminist: Stories from Women's Liberation," and comments by Dr. Lois Banner, author of "Marilyn: The Passion and the Paradox," a feminist biography of Marilyn Monroe. For more information, call (626) 744-7260 or visit pasadenapubliclibrary.net.
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Thanks for your column, Ellen. Any way we could honor Julia Morgan's YWCA before they renovate? Too late? What a treasure .
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"Fatherhood's always different, based upon the character that comes into your life. They arrive and tell you what you have to do," he continued. "(Kayte is) extraordinary. She's one of the most loving, amazing, warm human beings I've ever met. She's funny and serious all at the same time. She's an amazing person and I think she'll blow (the kids) away."
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The twins will be Kayte's first little ones. She previously suffered a miscarriage in 2010.
Kelsey, 56, is dad to son Jude, 7, and daughter Mason, 10, with "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" star Camille Grammer. He is also dad to Greer, 19, with Barrie Buckner, and Spencer, 28, with Doreen Alderman.
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July 15, 2004: Astronomers have directly measured the mass of a single star the first time such a feat has been accomplished for any solitary star other than our own Sun. The measurement has been done on a small red star located some 1,800 light-years from Earth. Knowing the masses of stars is important in understanding stellar evolution.See the rest:
Astronomers scan for microlensing events to look for evidence of dark matter in the outer fringes, or halo, of our galaxy. Believed to make up a significant chunk of our universe, dark matter may be partly made up of celestial objects that are too faint to see because they are very cool. These objects, referred to as "Massive Compact Halo Objects," or MACHOs, may be lurking in the halos of galaxies. They may include black holes, compact stars, and failed stars called brown dwarfs. If some dark matter were in the form of MACHOs, then its presence could be detected by the gravitational influence MACHOs would have on light from distant stars. If a MACHO object passes in front of a star in a nearby galaxy, such as the Large Magellanic Cloud, then the gravitational field of the MACHO will act like a lens, causing the brightness of the background star to increase as the MACHO passes by.
Astronomers also have discovered that gravitational microlensing events can yield other important information about a star, including whether the "lensed" star has planets circling it. Microlensing also provides information on background stars that are normally too dim and too far away to be seen with telescopes.
Until now, the only way astronomers have successfully measured the mass of a star is by studying its gravitational effect on another star. Both stars are bound together by gravity in a binary-star system.
With the gravitational microlensing technique, astronomers determine the mass of a star by measuring its effect on beams of light passing by the star. Microlensing events, however, occur in about one in 10 million stars. So, determining the mass of a star with this method is difficult because astronomers must use a powerful computer to scan millions of stars to find a microlensing event. Astronomers also must be able to image both stars in order to calculate the distance to them, or they must look for subtle changes due to the motion of the Earth around the Sun during the microlensing event. The distances are needed to determine the mass of the foreground star.


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text: Gamma Ray Bursts gary107 posted:1/10/2012 3:00:41 AM 100% of readers think this story is Fact. Add your two cents. Share inShare00 A BLAST of radiation from a passing star cluster could turn out to be the cause of a mass extinction on ancient Earth. In 2003, a team led by Adrian Melott of the University of Kansas in Lawrence suggested that a gamma-ray burst within a few thousand light years of Earth triggered a mass extinction 440 million years ago. But proof has been elusive. Because these bursts occur when a single star explodes or two stellar corpses merge, there is little left to identify the culprit. Unless, of course, the gamma-ray burst occurred in a massive swarm of stars called a globular cluster, which hosts many pairs of dead stars that might merge, says Wilfried Domainko of the Max Planck Institute for Nuclear Physics in Heidelberg, Germany. Based on the number of star clusters in the Milky Way and the rate of gamma-ray bursts in them, Domainko calculates one probably exploded within striking distance of Earth at least once in the past billion years (arxiv.org/abs/1112.1792). The European Space Agency's Gaia star-mapper, expected to launch in 2013, could track the guilty cluster down. Gaia will pinpoint the position and speed of such clusters, so we can see if any coincide with extinctions. www.newscientist.com gary107 posted:1/11/2012 3:02:26 PM the GRB that did the 97% of life 200 plus million years ago was some 2000 light years from earth, Eta Carinae is said to be just 800 to 1000 light years away. It may have already gone off. Just waiting for the GRB wave front to hit. There are things that can be done but we do not have the economy to take action, like the Yellowstone impeding eruption. Lack of social structure may be our end. Sorry about that.LincolnGenghis posted:1/14/2012 2:59:59 PM Interesting article, and yeah I agree with you on the Yellowstone Super Volcano, that one I have been following for years. I think time wise though impending might be the wrong word. Time wise I think it would be almost fair to say overdue. To tell you the truth I hope it stays overdue for the next couple thousand years. Please log in or become a member to add a post.


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The 2013 Miss Randolph County Fair and Miss Teen Randolph County Fair pageants will take place at 7 p.m. Saturday at Camp Pioneer in Beverly.
A queen, first runner-up and second runner-up will be chosen in each division after contestants compete in private interview, streetwear, evening gown and on-stage interview categories. A Miss Photogenic and Miss Congeniality will also be chosen in each division.
Additionally, each contestant will submit an exhibit for the Randolph County Fair Queen's Class of exhibits; these exhibits will be judged separately. The blue ribbon exhibit in each division will receive an award of Best Exhibit. Throughout the night, the exhibits submitted by the contestants will be auctioned off in a silent auction open to all in attendance.
Entertainment will include a performance by Ishah Franks.
Admission is $4 per adult, $2 per child ages 5-13 and free for children under 5. Concessions will be available for purchase as well.
Five contestants will vie for the title of Miss Randolph County Fair.
Makenzie Cooper, sponsored by her family, is the 17-year-old daughter of Terry and Roxanna Cooper of Elkins.
Ashley Fates, sponsored by Mary's Maytag Laundry Mat, is the 21-year-old daughter of Crystal Scott and Brad Scott of Elkins.
Amber Marstiller is the 16-year-old daughter of Charlie and Tina Marstiller of Beverly.
Katelyn Harris, sponsored by Appalachian Signs LLC and Appalachian Self-Storage, is the 17-year-old daughter of Tim and Leesa Harris of Montrose.
Sara Weiford, sponsored by her family and friends, is the 17-year-old daughter of Terri and Alan Weiford of Elkins.
Six contestants will compete for the title of Miss Teen Randolph County Fair.
Beth Zirkle, sponsored by her family, is the 14-year-old daughter of Kathie and Danny Staten and Jason and Cheryl Zirkle. She is from Elkins.
Nadya Keefer, sponsored by her family, is the14-year old daughter of John and Rosie Keefer of Elkins.
Jaeda Jenkins, sponsored by Linda Mathias, Millers Car Co., Amy and David Will and Hunter's Haven, is the 13-year-old daughter of Karla Jenkins of Coalton.
Morgan Swisher, sponsored by Mary Jo's Hair Affair, is the 15-year-old daughter of Richard and Bridget Swisher of Elkins.
Destiny Brown, sponsored by David Davis Heating and Cooling and Sharp Jewelry, is the 15-year-old daughter of Gene Teter and Gina Brown of Elkins.
Alexis Noel, sponsored by Belington Exxon, Charlie's Auto Sales and Sheekie Boutiquee Salon, is the 15-year-old daughter of William and Patricia Noel of Elkins.


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Infiltrating the clear blue like bees to honey, more than 1,100 swimmers cut through the waters off Waikiki, to mark the annual Roughwater Swim.
It is as daring as it is diverse and as intense as it is inspiring.
"You have all walks of life. People come from all over the world," said Alex Kostich, participating for the 21st time.
"We have an eight-year-old swimming today, we have two 80-year-olds swimming as well," said race director Kaia Hedlund.
"If people can see someone in a wheelchair having fun, that's great. Inspiration is something that needs to be drawn from one's self. It's not the external part, so have a look inside, and give it a crack," said John Maclean, who's racing despite being wheel-chair bound.
"There was one year when a blind man did the swim with his dog, and they completed the swim. I used to think I did well, but when I saw that I thought that was pretty amazing," said Kostich.
What's called the Swim with Mike is part of the event, which is a college scholarship for physically challenged athletes.
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With light winds, favorable currents, and spirits on over-drive participants said it shaped up to be an ideal day for a great swim, with even a few extra surprises.
"For the first time in 21 years, I saw a pod of dolphins swim right below me which was beautiful!" said Kostich.
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A lot of them think the C's are going to take it easy, with maybe the Knicks picking up one along the way. I saw one poster say something about not having Perkins isn't that bad of a loss because they were playing us. How could not having Perks be beneficial, Hansbrough and Hibbert looked like All-Stars a few weeks ago against us. Perkins will be missed in this series.
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