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Dave Bancroft, Travis Jackson, Bobby Wallace, and John Ward. No, this is not a list of NASCAR drivers. It is a list of men who have played shortstop in the major leagues and have been elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame. Suffice it to say, these guys don't evoke the grandeur and prestige (tongue firmly in cheek) of that hallowed institution. This is one important reason why Jimmy Rollins, if he continues at pace for another 3-5 years, will go into the Baseball Hall of Fame. Not only that, but he has a chance at being considered one of the greatest shortstops of all time.
Sure, maybe I'm not giving the above-mentioned individuals enough credit, but if they were really that great, I would have at least heard of them before I actually looked at the list of actual Hall of Fame shortstops. I am one of those guys that really don't take baseball before Babe Ruth that seriously. Further, I don't really consider the truly "modern era" of baseball to have begun until Jackie Robinson broke in. Even so, as it pertains to this discussion, I cannot dispute that Honus Wagner was just incredible and stands head-and-shoulders above the rest. With the way he hit, he could have been a butcher in the field and it wouldn't have mattered.
The shortstops in the Hall can be sorted into groups.
- The guys that played when dinosaurs roamed the earth: Bancroft, Jackson, Wallace, Ward, Hughie Jennings, Rabbit Maranville, and Joe Tinker (check his stats when you get a chance).
- Guys who got in mostly through their association with great teams: Pee Wee Reese, Phil Rizzuto, Loe Boudreau
- The truly deserving: Joe Cronin, Arky Vaughn, Luke Appling, Robin Yount
- The truly great: Wagner, Luis Aparicio, Cal Ripken, Jr., Ernie Banks, and Ozzie Smith
Now you have some context. Jimmy Rollins, during is first ten seasons in the league, has led the league in AB's and triples four times, won three Gold Gloves (the beginning of a string I suspect), won one MVP and one World Series. He has averaged out of the lead-off spot, 660 AB's (wow), 105 runs (wow again), and 36 stolen bases while hitting .274. There is no better defensive shortstop in the game. If this caliber of play continues it would take him right over the "truly deserving" category and into the "truly great".
Of the shortstops currently in the Hall I would take three – and only three – before Jimmy: Honus Wagner, Ozzie Smith, and Luis Aparicio. Aparicio, was a World Series winner, 10 time all-star, 9 time Gold Glove winner, and led the AL in steals 9 straight years (bet you didn't know that). He was the first state of the art modern day shortstop and an incredible fielder. Ernie Banks only played half his career at shortstop, and if not for that, he would be there with the other three. If you compare Ripken and Jimmy, I'll take Jimmy's total offensive game over Ripken's power. In the field, Cal would catch any ball he could get his hands on, and so can Jimmy. The difference is that Jimmy gets his hands on more balls.
Yes, the roster of Hall of Fame shortstops is not reflective of superior offensive prowess, with shortstop being a defense-first position. Jimmy has more years left to play and hopefully another World Series or two to win. He is a phenomenal two way player who's biggest sin is not walking more. While Phillies fans tend to be more agog these days over Chase Utley and Ryan Howard, let this little write up serve as a reminder of how good we've got it at shortstop. We may actually be in the presence of greatness. Jimmy Rollins is that good.
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Because Rollins became a starting SS at age 22, he has a chance to run up some impressive career totals. Rollins will play at ages 31 to 35 over the next five seasons (2010-2014), and he still could be putting up good numbers during that time. By age 35, JRoll could have 2,500 career hits, 1,500 runs, 1,000 RBIs, close to 500 stolen bases, more than 500 doubles, 135 triples, and 250 homers. Those are good numbers for a SS who also plays solid defense. Those numbers could put JRoll in the HOF. If he still has something left in his tank through his late 30s, Rollins could be a cinch HOFer.
One of the great all around players – if he keeps it up another few years, adds another ring, a lock for the HOF. Underrated only because the Phils insist on keeping him at leadoff, where he is only ok.
Imagine the runs scored if we got a 350+ obp from leadoff vs Jimmy's avg of 328 (or his 298 from last year). Especially now that we have a real #2 hitter.
I know Vic has struggled at lead-off in a very limited sample, but don't see why he wouldn't eventually get to his career avg obp (350) in the role. Utley, Howard, and Werth could all get 100 RBIs, Rollins would probably still score 80+runs, knock in 90. Ibanez would also knock in 80+. That line-up could score 1000 runs.
I know, runs aren't a problem, egos could be.
It always surprises me when people place Rollins in the "also-ran" category. I suppose that some of that is because of his slow start last year and some is because of his low OBP.
If they read his career stats, though, maybe they'd think more highly of him. He's easily as valuable as the Phils' glamor players like Utley and Howard. Those two certainly can't always drive themselves in; they need someone ahead of them who can single, then steal to get in scoring position, or double or triple–all things that Rollins is good at. Who needs high walk totals when you can do the things Rollins can?
To me, he's already in the "truly deserving category." The standards are changing for SS, though, and Hanley Ramirez may have some influence on whether HOF voters think Rollins truly "great."
Hanley should be a corner outfield or 3rd base – he's poor defensively at best, and doesn't appear to be getting any better. I think the HOF takes defense into account for SS and 2nd base more so than other positions.
Again, I do think Rollins is underrated, but lead-off means getting on base, which is not Rollins' strong point. He could be a legitimate RBI guy in the 5 or 6 hole (fits better at 6 on this team – could be a hybrid rbi, 2nd lead-off guy, woudl still steal 20+/yr, score almost as many runs in front of Ibanez).
Possible 4 HOFs on current roster: Rollins, Howard, Utley (1st ballot), and Halladay (He'd go in as a Blue Jay but he'll spend the rest of his career in Philly). Once again, great time to be a Phillies fan.
phan, its very early to tell, but cole could easily shape up to be a HOFer too. i agree i wouldn't put him in the catagory of those 4, as he has a lot of work to do to get there. but he's got the stuff to get there if he can stay healthy and keep his head on straight.
Interesting article, I'd never thought of Rollins as a future HOF just because of what I perceived as his poor offense….but putting it in perspective it is interesting how those numbers don't stack up too badly.
Rollins is my favorite player on the Phillies . . . . but he's not a Hall of Famer
he's not even a lock for the All-Star Game every year.. and Troy Tulowitzki is probably ahead of Rollins in the minds of every baseball-person around
I don't think J-roll is a Hall of Famer either… unless he has an '07-type season at least two more times.
I love Rollins.
But to even mention him in the same breath as Wagner, Banks, Aparicio, Cal and Ozzie…..is just wrong.
Don and Chuck – the usuals – if he has another three to five years like he's already had, then he's in, and he's better than Reese, Rizzuto, and Boudreau. And not by a little bit. I conceded that Wagner, Ozzie, and Aparicio were better. By the way, take a look at Cal's offensive numbers and then take a look at Jimmy's. Jimmy's are better. Ernie is by far the best modern day player out of all of them buy he just didn't plat shortstop very long. Neither did Yount.
The Dipsy
Though I love the man, I would readily take Hanley or Tulo ahead of him, unless it's a swagger-off we're talking about.
Right now, he's Barry Larkin – hall of very good, but not hall of fame. If last year was just a blip and he can have 5 more years like 2007 (or even 2004 or 5), + do something in the playoffs (realistic chance of at least 2 more postseason trips, hopefully he'll do somethign more than bat 0.230), then he's in the argument. I agree he isn't Wagner or Banks, but he's better offensively than Aparicio (although he played in the Pitcher's era) or Ozzie, and he's better defensively than Cal, with comparable offensive strengths. If 2009 was the start of a trend, then he's just the best ss the Phils ever had.
Does it matter to anyone that, barring injury, Jimmy will more likely that not, get to 3,000 hits?
The Dipsy
Cal's offensive numbers:
11551 ABs
1647 Runs
3184 Hits (1078 were XBH, and of those 431 HR)
J-Roll's offensive numbers:
5941 ABs
945 Runs
1629 Hits (591 XBH, and of those 146 HRs)
Not really sure how you can say that "Jimmy's are better"
(Maybe if you were to just multiply Jimmy's by 2 to just about equal the playing time….then some of the stats are SLIGHTLY better…..but to say he can keep up that pace for 9 or 10 more years is a stretch)
And….Cal was MVP TWICE…Rookie of the year (which Rollins wasn't) And Cal played in like 20 STRAIGHT ALL-Star Games???
So "The Streak" aside….Cal is better.
Love jimmy, but ozzie was the best I ever saw in my 55 years of watching baseball. more range,than jimmy , cal ripken defense was a joke ,he had no range.
As one of "the usuals" . . . considering I spent many a day of the past two seasons defending Rollins against almost everyone on this site
He's awesome, best Phillies SS ever, and again, my favorite player on the team
But Hall-of-Fame is reserved for the guys that are THE GREATEST in baseball
Rollins' MVO season was cool.. he would have to have about 5 seasons like that to get in the HOF.. and I just dont see it happening (i'd love to be wrong about that, but I'm pretty sure im right)
Cal and Jimmy don't really compare, because they are different types of hitters
They have about the same batting average, (Ripken actually has a higher On-Base-Percentage..
And if Rollins plays 10 more years, and you doubled his stat totals
HRs: Ripken 431 vs. Rollins 292*
RBIs: Ripken 1695 vs. Rollins 1242*
Runs: Ripken 1647 vs. Rollins 1890*
Hits: Ripken 3184 vs. Rollins 3258*
I mentioned like two weeks ago, that Rollins shift to 3rd in a few years might prolong his career.. he definitely has the arm strength to play there, as he'll begin to lose some range.. But I def don't think Rollins plays for another 10 years.. so the comparison between those two players doesn't really work at all
Ripken actually had quite a bit of range. And when he moved to 3B, he did very well. Saw him play MANY times. To say his "defense was a joke" is certainly typical of your negative comments.
Ozzie was the best I saw at SS.
There is NO DOUBT that Cal moving to third base prolonged his career. Will Jimmy agree to do that?? I guess if he knows that he can play a few more years….then why not???
Yes. They are two different types of players. If I had to pick one of the two to plat SS for me, I would pick Jimmy. I realize that reasonable minds can differ. And Don, if you read the list of SS's in the Hall, I guarantee you'll be completely underwhelmed. I agree the Hall should be reserved for the greatest. Too bad the Hall doesn't feel that way. If I were running the Hall, I would take at least 10 of them out. But seeing as we do have a standard to go by, Jimmy belongs if he plays another five years to par.
The Dipsy
If Rollins starts getting 200 hits per season (which he's only done once, 212 Hits, in 2007)
It would take him almost 7 full seasons to reach 3,000 hits..
If I had to bet my life on it, I would say that Rollins doesn't join the 3,000 hit club of Major League Baseball
Dipsy, he needs MORE than another five years.
I love Jimmy, I think he's great. People that know me might not think that because of the way I bash him, but that's mostly because I want him to take some walks and not pop up so much. With that said, he's not even in the same galaxy as Cal Ripken, let alone the same planet.
Jimmy is a very good defensive shortstop that has actually improved in the last few years, and is now the best defensive shortstop in the NL kind of by default because some guys got old, some guys couldn't hit at ALL and got moved out, no one knows about Troy Tulowitski, and Jose Reyes was hurt.
Jimmy as an offensive shortstop is decidedly average. He was right in the middle of qualified shortstops for OPS last year. He was right in the middle the year before. Hanley was so much better in his MVP year it's nearly a crime, and he was middle of the road in '06 as well. And average is ok! With the best 2nd baseman in baseball and a man that can't hit a curveball but still gets 45 home runs a year getting average production from Jimmy is great. It's fantastic he's developed some power in the last few years, that reads really well into his decline years. I wish Charlie would grow some brains and drop him to 6th in the order where he should be where those doubles and home runs would do more good and put someone who can get on base more than 30% of the time in the leadoff spot.
And now to Ripken- Jimmy Rollins' MVP season would be the 5th highest pure OPS of Ripken's career. If you go by OPS+ ( udging him against a stat adjusted for the offense of the league at the time) it'd be Ripken's 9th best.
See? It sounds like I hate Jimmy Rollins, but I love the guy. He's that guy-the carryover from when the teams were awful, to when they were building but couldn't get it done, to champions. It's just that when people say things like he might be a Hall of Famer when Barry Larkin can't even get in I get itchy.
Dips, thanks for giving Jimmy his due, I don't think the fans in Philly (not PN, because most on here realize what we have) give him enough credit, it's all about Chase, Ryan, and now Roy. I honestly don't think the team would be where they are now without Jimmy, he is the catalyst, the spark that drives the engine.
mikemike, we are about the same age, and I agree that Ozzie was the best, so awesome to watch him play. I saw a documentary on him, and when he was little he used a paper bag as a glove because his mom couldn't afford to buy a real one. When he did get his first glove, his mom said it never left his hand, he slept with it, took it to school, it became a part of him.
Barry Larkin will get in. In order for this article to make sense to anyone, the reader must be willing to extrapolate Jimmy's stats over say (OK, give) five years. I think that it is completely realistic to see Jimmy play SS until he is 37. He is in good health and has remained relatively injury free. What some are not factoring in to my assertion, and maybe I didn't make it clear enough in the article, is that Jimmy…like Reese and Rizzuto…has the luxury of being a vital cog on one of the great teams of a generation. That gives guts extra juice. That goes for a lot when guys vote. So take his stats at the end and add it to how great his team was and his role on it = HOF.
The Dipsy
"guys", not "guts"
The Dipsy
Barry Larkin and Derek Jeter will both enter before Jimmy Rollins. Remember too that this same current voter class snubbed Alan Trammell, who statistically is Barry Larkin without the PR. Omar Vizquel also has a darn good shot – half by the Ozzie argument (superlative defensive), and half with an outside chance at 3000 hits. So Jimmy might have to wait.
Edgar Renteria is also on pace for 3000 hits as a primary shortstop. He has 2185 through age 32. It helps that he's been an MLB regular since he was 19 years old on those '96 Marlins.
Jimmy needs 8 more years as a regular (170 hits a year) to hit 3000. We'll see. He has 1629 through his first 9.1 years and age 30.
I really like Rollins. If he could improve his on-base-percentage, then I would agree that he would probably make the HOF. He is exciting, an excellent fielder and a leader. Those playing ss has changed and there are some outstanding competitors for Rollins in the HOF. Here are some names that likely will compete for a placque in the HOF:
*Omar Visques (2700 hits, 10 gold gloves and still playing)
*Derek Jeter ( a shoe-in)
*Nomar Garciaparra ( great player before shoulder injuries)
*Alan Trammell (outstanding lifetime numbers)
*Miguel Tajada (Great player, MVP)
*Raphael Furcal (Still playing strong and outstanding ss)
*Edgar Renteria (Don't laugh, he has won gold gloves, hits well and has
won a world championship)
*Troy Tulowitzki ( Young player with power who will likely change
*Jose Reyes (Still very young and already has some impressive stats.)
*Hanley Ramiriz (Young, powerful and talented with many more years
to compile big numbers.)
This is steep competition for J-Roll. I personally hope he makes it in and the next five years will tell the story.
Omar Vizquel is a LOCK
Nice article.
I think Dipsy put it right, IF JRoll can keep it up for another 5 years he is a good candidate for HOF. I don't think he is in the top category but he is a very good SS and can swing the bat (maybe too often, but he can hit).
If Andre Dawson's a HOFer Jimmy is but he isn't… Will go down as a very good player once its all said and done but not hall worthy.
Of that group only Jeter and Vizquel are hall worthy no question, but when you consider all of the guys from this generation who'll be going on the the ballot who are question marks the rest of those guys are third tier at best. Garciaparra vs Vlad, Reyes vs Adam Dunn…
^Rollins is 128th on the steal list which is his real 'sexy' attribute…
Looking at it he's going to be nowhere near the passing grade on any of the main categories. Love the guy but he's not near being on pace for the hall right now (unless anyone can see anything in his numbers to suggest otherwise)
To get in the HOF . . . you generally have to be THE BEST for like a decade
He's not there
Utley needs to have 5 great seasons still before he would get in
and same for Howard..
This article reminds me of an argument that was made on here some months ago about Chase Utley being a future HOFer.
Can we please just wait a few years before we start the induction process on some of these guys that are WAAAAYYYY to young for discussion.?? In Jimmy's case, he may have only played HALF of his total time…..that's too early to start suggesting HOF credentials.
For once I totally agree with you Dipsy, five more years of good stats and he would have to be considered. Especially if the Phillies get to three straight WS or if he wins another one or two in the next five years, that stuff matters. Like it or not Jimmy was the cornerstone of this team, and played very hard when they were bad, and is the face of this team, I love Utley and Howard but the came up after him, so you can say they built around Jimmy. And way too much has been said obp, he gets on enough to score 100+ runs a year so he has to get on base some time. You also have to take these guys in the generation they played, tilio, rayes, and rameriz are not really his peers per say, you are looking at Jeter, Renteria, Tajada and Nomar. All of which except for Jeter, I would put behind Jimmy. Nomar didn't stay healthy, Tajada linked to roids, Renteria, too much of a jouneymen for me.
Chase is right up there with the very best to ever play 2nd base offensively. I personally project forward think Chase will have a better case than Ryan as there will be so many 500HR guys but appreciate the counter-argument.
Jimmy is a great offensive shortstop but nowhere near the top all-time when you project him out, he's not climbing up the lists as he's barely on them and he's had his bit outage years. Greatest Phillies shortstop but his numbers offensively don't stand out, he'll be nowhere near even the grey area with hits, steals, doubles.
Again….for all three of these guys….Howard, Utley, and Rollins….I just think that you need to wait AT LEAST five years….before even having this discussion.
They are all awesome players in their own right…..and, yeah….if they continue to play like crazy….then they might/should/could/maybe will be considered.
But they aren't close to being there yet….and so much can happen between now and then. Career-ending injury. Steroids (although, I doubt it with these guys). Just hitting a wall and playing below potential for several years. Etc. Etc. Etc.
Renteria, Tejada, aren't close… Nomar is likely to be on the Scotty Rolen, Jeff Bagwell, Don Mattingley list of what ifs.
I love Jimmy, pisses me off sometimes with the nonchalant over-confidence sometimes but he is one of the great Phillies, problem is he's not even going to be touching the top 75 in 5 years in his top offensive categories even with MVP caliber years, he'd need to be somewhere near the top in at least a couple with the awesome glove numbers. There are just gonna be too many unsexy guys with a hall worthy number somewhere like Biggio's and Helton's pass over for a Rollins.
The hall of fame issue to me at this point is senseless ,not enough time to judge him for hall of fame. Cal defense at short was a joke. saw a lot of him he had no range but if you want to say he did go ahead, he was a offense shortstop just like ramirez for florida is, ramirez is a error machine ,but his offense numbers if he keeps up will get him in. but the hall should be for all around play but thats another story.
I saw a lot of him as well…..and I DO "want to say he did" (have range)
Thanks for the permsission, mikemike….now crawl back into your dark, dingy hole.
Carlton Fisk. One of the greatest offensive players? No. But he's a catcher. Ryne Sandberg. One of the greatest offensive players? No. But he's a second baseman. C, SS, 2B are not held to the same offensive threshold as other positions. That said, to say that Jimmy will not be in the top 50 or 75 of anything does not necessarily mean as much. If Fisk and Sandberg played the OF, they wouldn't have gotten in. When Jimmy ends up with 2,800 hits and has been to the Series four times, winning twice, been MVP once, has 7 GG's, just keep him out. And all those achievements are realistic.
The Dipsy
Series 4 times and winning twice….WRONG!!!
That should be winning THREE times….
…..just wanted to clarify.
That sucks.
For a C, SS, 2nd basemen to be hall worthy offensively they have to excel in an area like Craig Biggio with hits and doubles and he's considered to be a borderline at best, Jimmy's going to have to go a long way to reach even that level and he doesn't have many good offensive years left in him, he isn't Jeter offensively.
He's like Bernie Williams, great player of his generation to watch, hell of a team leader but even for an SS he doesn't look to have the numbers.
NJ – He doesn't need Biggio numbers if he has won an MVP and two WS. Thats big time stuff. How many SS have won the MVP? The strength of his stats and a push from the currents of an alltime great club will carry him in. Houston sucked. Thats why Biggio is not in. He plays for the a WS winner and wins an MVP, he walks in. Vizquel has no shot. Bernie never won an MVP played OF/DH. Guys like him are a dime a dozen. I can name you ten guys better than him that aren't in.
The Dipsy
The guys (or the fan bases) who fight the most for HoF credentials are usually those who don't have a ring (Jim Rice, Whitey, Dawson). My guess is that at the end of his career, Jimmy will be much happier with his 3 or 4 rings.
Also, don't consider Cal joke at short, played hard, caught everything he could get, but he didn't move to his right very well. Similar to Jeter with more power, less contact, only average defensively.
Oh no Polanco!! Straining your right knee doesn't sound too good…
Vic back to the 2nd hole?
Chuck – I agree with you that this is a topic to re-visit in 5 years.
By then, we should have a better idea if Howard has a good shot at 500-600 HRs. HRs will be his ticket to the HOF.
By then, we should also judge better how Utley stacks up with other second basemen like Morgan, Sandberg and Kent. If he compares favorably with those three, Utley will get in (He actually may need 6 or 7 years to be the career leader in HRs for a second basemen.).
In Rollins' case, I think he needs either great career numbers in a number of categories, which he can achieve in 5 years or so, or 3,000 hits, which will take a few years longer. 3,000 hits is probably still a credential for automatic entry into the HOF. Otherwise, JRoll's career numbers will be compared with those of other shortstops.
We will also have to wait 4 or 5 years before we can make a sound judgment about Halladay's HOF credentials.
Carlton Fisk and Ryne Sandberg are not only almost 20% better offensively respective to era, they're also better offensively straight up. Those guys are not a good comparison to Rollins because they weren't defensive players at their position, they were offensive. Sandberg had a year where he hit 40 home runs, Fisk had almost 400 for his career. Those are superlative numbers for C and 2B in the 70s and 80s.
Rollins would need 4 or 5 MVP caliber years to get even be in earshot of great career numbers in the non-power categories.
The power numbers are going to have to be re-addressed for the Hall, Adam Dunn's gonna have 500 homers and it will be a joke if he gets in. Andruw Jones, Giambi could conceivably be near, Delgado will be over 500, likely Vlad and maybe guys like Konerko and Carlos Lee… Vlad's really the only one that has a right when you have so many guys being passed over. Don't get how writers/analysts can say it's all about winning and performing in October and not even really consider Bernie Williams.
Jimmy could easily play his way into the hall… he doesn't have to play outside of himself; just be consistent over the next 5-8 years and he'll definitely have a spot. MVP, multiple gold gloves, silver slugger… at SS, defense plays more of a role than any other position (except maybe catcher). Jimmy doesn't need 3000 hits. Play defense, continue to hit the ball hard and he could go down as one of the better ones.
At this point, I can't see how you could project him ahead of Cal, though… Cal is the epitome of consistency. Plus, when you look at Cal's longevity and body of work, there really is no comparison. His power numbers, 2 MVP's, 1 ROY, 8 SS, 19 consecutive all-star appearances. Almost 100% first-ballot…
For HRs…..600 will (and should) be the new 500……if you're looking mainly at HRs as a bench mark for getting in.
The steroid era really screwed up HR totals, so even if guys like Bonds and Mcgwire never make the Hall, legit guys like Thome and Howard are still going to have their totals compared to the steroid guys.
One dimensional players also screwed up the HR totals.
The thing is you need to look at Jimmy's stats and what he can realistically total up in the next 5-6 years, his raw numbers aren't as impressive as how he has been perceived, he'll have to put up very good years to be in earshot of those numbers that will put him in consideration as his skills regress. He has less hits and steals than Juan Pierre and an OPS only .48pts higher than the guy considered to be a mockery by the saebermetrists. I'd love to see him in the running for the hall but really do think he's going to have to go a long way to be in real contention and will need to get very high on the list for doubles and triples to boost the other areas.
The Original Chuck – Thank you. Shortstops are lousy hitters in general. Jimmy is averaging 105 runs over a his first 9 big league seasons. Are you kidding? Look at the other SSs in MLB. Are you kidding me? My point is that Jimmy is now reaching the point in his career where he has played long enough and well enough to start the conversation. Does he have to do more? Of course he does. Why doesn't someone compare his offensive numbers to the SSs that are in the Hall?
The Dipsy
Shortstops USED TO BE lousy hitters….in the days of Mark Belanger who got away with it enough because he was so good at defense.
But guys like Ripken, Jeter, A-Rod, others….changed that…to where now it's almost EXPECTED that shortstops do well offensively.
And, no…..he hasn't "reached the point in his career where he has played long to start the conversation."
Rollins is a run machine, great fielder, charismatic player who is a leader and solid hitter. If he gets on base more, he scores more runs. All he needs to do is improve his on-base-percentage and bunt more to do this. He is exciting and we are really lucky to have such a great shortstop. I remember Desi Relaford, Bobby Wine and Kim Baptiste. Jimmy , after another five years of success, has a defintite chance of making the Hall.
There will always be a debate over what constitutes greatness. Jim Rice is a fine example of a player who was good over a long period of time, but there is still a question over whether or not that makes him "great".
Ozzie Smith was better defensively, but Rollins has been a more productive hitter over time. Rollins doesn't produce like Hanley Ramirez, but his glove is far slicker. If over the rest of his career, he continues to be a well rounded player, and his numbers stay where they were in 2005 or 2007, Jimmy has a solid shot to reach the Hall.
I wonder about Jamie Moyer as well. If he continues to win games, he'll keep moving himself up the all-time wins list. Does that make him a Hall of Fame player? Obviously he doesn't have the same raw "stuff" as obvious Hall of Fame Players, but if all the players ahead of him are in the Hall, and some of the players behind him are in the Hall, is it fair for him not to be?
Steve Jeltz would be appalled by this article. How can he not be considered the greatest Phillies shortstop, moreover; the greatest shortstop in the history of Earth. We wouldn't name a game day award after any schulb of a player, like Richie Ashburn.
I think as The Dipsy alluded to – that voting for the HOF prior to Jackie Robinson was questionable at best. There are characters in the HOF with lifetime Batting averages hoovering near the .250 mark, no power to speak of, no rings to display – you have to wonder how these people got in. Don't forget, during the time they played, how many people got to watch them? Read about their heroics or hear about them?
Different world back then. I would be interested to see who actually did the voting and what was the basis of their decisions.
Anyone have an update on Poly's injury?
ANOTHER sweet outing by our ace Halladay – he finally gave up a run which inflated his ERA to .090 for the Spring. Herndon and Durbin have not given up a run, still.
This is great stuff. Howard had 2 more hits today – as long as he is making contact, we know the power will show for this notoriously slow starter. this is tremendous stuff. Go Phils!
This from Polanco….
"It's nothing bad. No DL situation or anything. It's probably day to day. Now that the doctor took a look at it, it's nothing big at all….It's getting better now already after the icing an all that."
See, Dip, you and I can actually agree on something…
I will say that you are crazy for not taking Cal over Jimmy, though… projecting forward (and if he stays on track… big IF), I would say that he ends up top 10 PURE modern-day shortstops of all-time when he retires. Wagner, Jeter, Ripken, Vizquel, Smith, Aparicio, Tejada, Rollins, Renteria…
Glad to hear that about Polly…
But not necessarily in that order, correct OC?
Wagner, Jeter, Aparicio, Ozzie, Larkin, Ripken, J-Ro, Tejada.
And a shout out to my favorite fantasy player of all time, the late, great, SS – Howard Johnson. 30-30 out of the SS position is pretty sweet (not a pure SS, tho.)
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I agree that Rollins can be considered for HOF. The background is sufficient, but he needs to be a Top5 offensive SS each year for the next 5 with a GG each season.
Larkin was a great player and Rollins will have the benefit of being on Championship caliber teams to get extra publicity. Having some big-time post season's and some highlight game winning plays in the World Series would certainly help.
After his season last year, I would not project him to keep up his offense enough and will be overshadowed by Utley.
And if Rollins moves to 3B it better be in about 10 years because he will need to get in primarily on defense and longevity at SS.
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I don't comment here much, but I have to say I think you're underrating Cal a whole lot.
His bat doesn't look that great compared to, say, Jeter, but you have to remember that the first half of his career was played in the much more pitcher-friendly years of the '80s. And he still is a better hitter than Rollins by any measure. Stolen bases are the only category in which Rollins beats Ripken. If nothing else, compare their career OPS+: 112 vs. 97. So Ripken was an above-average hitter for his career, including his waning years, while Rollins has been a slightly below-average hitter and hasn't started declining yet (we hope).
And Cal's defense was sorely underrated. For example:
Fielding Runs Above Average (TotalZone) per 1,250 innings at SS:
Mark Belanger: 18.6
Ozzie Smith: 13.1
Cal Ripken, Jr.: 10.4
Omar Vizquel: 7.1
Jimmy Rollins: 4.2
Alex Rodriguez: 2.0
Miguel Tejada: -4.5
Derek Jeter: -7.7
(taken from Baseball-Reference)
Heck, you can even look at Range Factor. Cal got to more balls than Jimmy does: 4.73 per 9 innings, compared to Jimmy's 4.26.
I think J-Roll is fantastic, and none of this is intended as a slight against him. But I feel the need to point out just how great Ripken was, especially since he played on a declining Baltimore club for most of his career, and his skill was largely overshadowed by the streak.
Cal Ripken – Great player. Home run hitting SS. Rollins has Ripken beat in SB and Runs…by a ton. Shortstop is traditionally a light hitting position where guys can probably run reasonable well. Ripken and Rollins are two different players. You want a table setter, you take Rollins. More of an RBI guy – Ripken. Vanilla. Chocolate. I give Cal his due.
The Dipsy
Has him beat in runs by a ton???
"Runs: Ripken 1647 vs. Rollins 1890*"
that's if you take his current total and double it – which seems pretty unlikely. so I might take issue with that.
Thats a ton.
The Dipsy
Ummm actually it's 15% percent and it's not even a projection. It's an ABSURD estimation based on simply doubling his current production. How often have little speedy guys maintained their production into their mid and late-30s????
Why do you keep citing runs as a sign of how good Jimmy is? He has 146 career home runs, which means that they are the only ones you can attribute directly to him. Every other run, no matter if it's a stolen base, wild pitch, sac fly or Ryan Howard bomb has a source outside of Jimmy Rollins' bat. He scored 100 runs last year because he limped his way on base in front of possibly the best NL offense of the decade. If he batted 6th or 7th he'd have had 100 RBI instead of 100 runs.
If I wanted a table setter, I wouldn't pick Jimmy. He bats lead off because he's a short, fast dude and not because he's a good lead off hitter. Moving him out of the lead off spot would be addition by subtraction and addition- put Vic, Werth, Ruiz, God I'd love to see Utley as a 1 hole hitter, ANYONE in the lead off spot who can get on base, and put Rollins further down in the order where his developing power works more to the team's advantage.
Just to keep the runs debate going Rollins just finished his age 30 season with 945 runs. Ripken had 970 runs following his age 30 season. So…
You give "Cal his due"….
But the fact remains….Cal at age 30 was a legitimate LOCK for the Hall
Rollins at age 30 is not.
On another note, Scott Eyre apparentely has not ruled out pitching. Go to http://www.mlbtraderumors and read comments. Interesting……..
Scooter as a HoFer shortstop "mostly because of [his] association with [a] great team"? Seriously?
i need the name of your dealer. it's obviously top shelf stuff. forget 3000 hits. he'd have to start until he's 40. or 43. ain't gonna happen. bowa had like 2500 and, until omar vizquel came along, THE best fielding percentage at SS for his career. i don't think he sniffed making the ballot a second time. rollins will forever be plagued by his OBP and the fact that his career was bracketed by the likes of a-rod, nomar, jeter, vizquel, tejada in front and ramirez, tulowitzki and maybe reyes behind.
cripes, even richie ashburn, who couldn't crack the lyrics of "talkin' baseball," needed to be voted in by the veteran's committee because he had the misfortune of competing against mays and mantle (and the duke).
BTW, utley hasn't put up biggio numbers yet, let alone jeff kent's. howard has half the stats of pujols and 1/3 of the mvp awards and anyone that thinks hamels gets in better start with the argument that carlton went 13-20 in 1973.
Deebo, as I said, if you are able to extrapolate Rollins' numbers out, he is a better candidate that all those players you mentioned save A-Rod and Jeter. Vizquel is not going in and neither is Tejada. Thats just the way it is.
The Dipsy
Vizquel has a chance.
Jimmy Rollins is the premier defensive shortstop of this generation, and underrated in that regard IMO. He has deserved more Gold Gloves than he has earned.
However, he does not pass the most important test for Hall-of-Famers, and that one is this: when people watch him play, do they think "I'm watching a Hall-of-Famer?" I believe it is likely that most people do not think they are.
Also, there is only one of these players I would put in the "Truly Great" category, and that is Honus Wagner. All those other guys either had one severe deficiency or played only half their career at shortstop.
Ozzie not a Hall of Famer? Hmmmmmm.
The Dipsy
"Jimmy Rollins is the premier defensive shortstop of this generation, and underrated in that regard IMO. He has deserved more Gold Gloves than he has earned."
Really???? See below. If he's underrated defensively then what the hell is Cal (who absolutely destroys Rollins offensively)???
Fielding Runs Above Average (TotalZone) per 1,250 innings at SS:
Mark Belanger: 18.6
Ozzie Smith: 13.1
Cal Ripken, Jr.: 10.4
Omar Vizquel: 7.1
Jimmy Rollins: 4.2
Alex Rodriguez: 2.0
Miguel Tejada: -4.5
Derek Jeter: -7.7
(taken from Baseball-Reference)
Heck, you can even look at Range Factor. Cal got to more balls than Jimmy does: 4.73 per 9 innings, compared to Jimmy's 4.26.
Really? How many runs did Cal average per season? SB? BA? Gimme a break. He hit more home runs and had more RBI's. I'll take Jimmy. And please stop running that stat cuz we're sick of seeing it. OK, Belanger's the best. So what's your point? What a bullsh@t stat that is.
The Dipsy
So basically what you're saying is that you'll take Rollins over Ripken not based on his actual performance on the field (which is OBVIOUSLY inferior and really not even in the same ballpark), but based on your personal fondness for him and apparent inability to understand baseball statistics. Glad we're all clear. You'd prefer a worse player. Good deal.
I really don't know why I'm continuing this, but the point of that statistic is that Ripken was MUCH better defensively than Rollins. Then when you look at basically every offensive stat other than SBs it's quite clear that Ripken blows Rollins away entirely. Even in runs (which you keep bringing up even though you don't seem to understand what the stat even means) Ripken had more through his age 30 season than Rollins does. What was your point about BA???? Ripken – 276 and Rollins – 274. And that's including the 10 additional years that Ripken played – do you really think if Rollins plays for 10 more years his career average is going to go UP???? Your argument is really laughable. He not only hit more HRs and had more RBI – he did every single thing on the baseball field better than Rollins with the exception of SBs and triples. Rollins has a career OPS+ of 97 – that's not good and will only get worse as he ages. Compare that to Ripken's OPS+ of 112 – it's really not rocket science here. Through Rollins' age 30 season, he had exactly one season with an OPS+ over 110 (and it was only 119). Through Ripken's age 30 season he had 8 seasons with an OPS+ over 110 (including a 144, 145, and 162!!!).
Get a clue and stop making yourself look so ignorant on the internet. If you want to say you like the guy more because he's cooler or you like his style or whatever that's fine, but don't try to make the laughable argument that he's better when it's totally clear that he's not even close.
That's what I thought. No explanation for your completely absurd statements.
In looking at the bigger picture, I don't think you can just look at HOF players as a comparison. You also need to look at players that are currently playing or were great but have not made the HOF.
To me, there is absolutely no question that, with current players, Jeter is better. Jeter is among the true greats (and, no, I'm not a Yankees fan – I detest the Yankees – but his greatness is indisputable). Hanley Ramirez is just starting out, so it's hard to guage, but he's in another stratosphere in terms of offensive ability – he's entirely off the charts, unless a former shortstop named Alex Rodriguez is on your chart. That guy Rodriguez played a hell of a long time as a SS (9 seasons – we lose track of how long he's been a major league player) and he is and was a better player than Ernie Banks, which is saying something. You've also got Omar Vizquel (did he retire?) – who is a traditional shortstop who might go in – he's a great player in the field, but I don't view him as being as good as Rollins on the whole.
As for guys not in the HOF – where's Barry Larkin? Sorry to bring this up Phils fans, but he was a better player than Rollins. Maybe not by a huge margin, but, truthfully, he was better. So, I hope and believe Rollins should go in, but it may not happen or, if it does happen, it may take a long time and there's probably no way that Rollins goes in if Larkin does not as I think most people share my view as to who was the better player (although, admittedly, Rollins still writing his resume).


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It wasn't easy, the Cavs made their run during the end of the 2nd quarter thanks to Davis & made a strong run during the entire 3rd but the Knicks proved to be too much for the Cavs to handle where it matters the most; during the 4th quarter.
Our 3 Stars in Billups, Melo & Amare all led the way for us tonight.
This victory over the Cavs can't erase the fact that we lost to this team three times this year, but it's a step in the right dirrection; a dirrection of putting that Cleveland disaster as a thing of the past while focusing on one thing & one thing only: Improving as a team from here on out & getting ready for our 1st playoff run since 04.
This was a must win for the Knicks. I'm not sure we could have recovered from a 4th loss to this Cavs team. A loss would have destroyed any type of momentum & confidence this team may have.
Bring on the Raptors. Lets get back to being over .500 after a horrible March losing 6 consecutive & 9 of 10 games.
It's a feel good feeling knowing we beat the Cavs tonight.
Thanks Knicks.....deservedly so making the playoffs....can't wait to whip Miami
Yup, thats right. It's O-F-F-I-C-I-A-L baby!
What an amazing feeling it is to be a Knicks fan right now. So proud of the pre-trade team, the future of this team as well as the future of a very proud Knicks Franchise.
Thanks go out to Gallo, Felton & Chandler as well. Thank you.
Congratulations to you all for making the playoffs ..
But I have to say that Jared Jeffries is the dumbest player I have ever seen. Even dumber than Eddy Curry.
congrats Knicks and fans....great to finally beat this team and get the monkey off our back before the playoffs start. We need to support the guys the rest of the way. Here's where the senior guys on the team need to get everyone's head in the right place. I'm sure Wade and LeBum are working the heat players now
We're back in the playoffs guys! Congrats to all us true fans who been with this team through everything. That light at the end of the tunnel is getting closer guys. Be prepared and be amped! We are going to make some noise in the playoffs, Mark my words. Let's get em! Forever KNICKS!
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WE'RE BACK IN THE PLAYOFFS. How fitting we clinch on the day we finally beat the CAVS. 6 more meaningless games... Then BRING IT!!!
I'm hoping for Miami so we can at least have a bit of a front court match up equilibrium. Still a very tough opponent.
Even with SHAQ almost indefinitely out in the playoffs, matching Boston's size in the paint is beyond us.
I'm so happy that we finally made the post-season! The first home game's starting line up announcement will be epic.
KFFQ, you have to realise that people that make game threads put quite a lot of effort in to them.
I assume that you just want to make a thread to celebrate a victory - which is great - but there's no point.
Especially when the GT maker has spent enough time trying to bring something good to the site. You understand, right?


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- The globular cluster kinematics and galaxy dark matter content of NGC 3923
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- This paper presents further results from our spectroscopic study of the globular cluster (GC) system of the group elliptical NGC 3923. From observations made with the GMOS instrument on the Gemini South Telescope, an additional 50 GC and ultra-compact dwarf (UCD) candidates have been spectroscopically confirmed as members of the NGC 3923 system. When the recessional velocities of these GCs are combined with the 29 GC velocities reported previously, a total sample of 79 GC/UCD velocities is produced. This sample extends to over 6 arcmin (> 6 Re∼ 30 kpc) from the centre of NGC 3923 and is used to study the dynamics of the GC system and the dark matter content of NGC 3923. It is found that the GC system of NGC 3923 displays no appreciable rotation, and that the projected velocity dispersion is constant with radius within the uncertainties. The velocity dispersion profiles of the integrated light and GC system of NGC 3923 are indistinguishable over the region in which they overlap. We find some evidence that the diffuse light and GCs of NGC 3923 have radially biased orbits within ∼130 arcsec. The application of axisymmetric orbit-based models to the GC and integrated light velocity dispersion profiles demonstrates that a significant increase in the mass-to-light ratio (from M/LV= 8 to 26) at large galactocentric radii is required to explain this observation. We therefore confirm the presence of a dark matter halo in NGC 3923. We find that dark matter comprises 17.5 per cent of the mass within 1 Re, 41.2 per cent within 2 Re and 75.6 per cent within the radius of our last kinematic tracer at 6.9 Re. The total dynamical mass within this radius is found to be M⊙. In common with other studies of large ellipticals, we find that our derived dynamical mass profile is consistently higher than that derived by X-ray observations, by a factor of around 2.
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Apple has always been a different company than the rest of the technology industry. The company managed to take a lot of technologies and approaches which were considered weird onto the mass market successfully. The reason for that success was the drive, passion and commitment of one man: Steve Jobs.
The technology industry executives were shocked by the death of Apple's chairman and co-founder and were quickly to express their condolences to his relatives as well as acknowledge achievements of talents that one of the greatest innovators of all times had. The things that Mr. Jobs has achieved with the company he co-founded, appear to be so great that not only tech industry execs, but many politicians and ordinary people recongize and admire them.
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"No words can adequately express our sadness at Steve's death or our gratitude for the opportunity to work with him. We will honor his memory by dedicating ourselves to continuing the work he loved so much."
- Tim Cook, chief executive officer of Apple
"People sometimes have goals in life. Steve Jobs exceeded every goal he set himself."
- Steve Wozniak, a co-founder of Apple
"I am very, very sad to hear the news about Steve. He was a great man with incredible achievements and amazing brilliance. He always seemed to be able to say in very few words what you actually should have been thinking before you thought it. His focus on the user experience above all else has always been an inspiration to me. He was very kind to reach out to me as I became CEO of Google and spend time offering his advice and knowledge even though he was not at all well. My thoughts are with his family and the whole Apple family."
- Larry Page, chief executive officer of Google
"From the earliest days of Google, whenever Larry and I sought inspiration for vision and leadership, we needed to look no farther than Cupertino. Steve, your passion for excellence is felt by anyone who has ever touched an Apple product (including the macbook I am writing this on right now). And I have witnessed it in person the few times we have met. On behalf of all of us at Google and more broadly in technology, you will be missed very much. My condolences to family, friends, and colleagues at Apple."
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"I want to express my deepest condolences at the passing of Steve Jobs, one of the founders of our industry and a true visionary. My heart goes out to his family, everyone at Apple and everyone who has been touched by his work."
- Steve Ballmer, chief executive officer of Microsoft
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- Stephen Elop, chief executive officer of Nokia
"Steve Jobs was an iconic entrepreneur and businessman whose impact on technology was felt beyond Silicon Valley. He will be remembered for the innovation he brought to market and the inspiration he brought to the world."
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Steve was my hero growing up. He not only gave me a lot of personal advice and encouragement, he showed all of us how innovation can change lives.I will miss him dearly, as will the world."
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Edward William Bright, 46, is accused of stabbing his brother repeatedly during the argument over which silverware to use for dinner at Bright's home in Richland County, Columbia TV station WAGT reported.
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General Discussion
Holoprosencephaly (HPE) is the failure of the prosencephalon, or forebrain, to develop normally. The forebrain is a region of the brain in the fetus that develops into parts of the adult brain, including the cerebral cortex. Instead of the normal complete separation of the left and right halves of the forebrain, there is an abnormal continuity between the two sides.
There are several different types of holoprosencephaly. In the alobar form, there is no separation between the right and left halves at all. In semilobar HPE, at least some separation of the two halves is present. In the lobar form, most of the brain has separated into right and left sides, though there is incomplete division into the two halves.
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First, let me apologize for not getting an opener ready
for last week's message. I appreciate those who checked to see that all was OK
with me. I came in late from
As alluded to last week, I do want to take a moment to speak to the National Education Summit on High Schools sponsored by the National Governors Association and Achieve, Inc. that was held that weekend of February 26-27.
The primary call coming from the meeting was for an
improved standards-assessment-accountability framework for high
schools—something we have had a much better handle on in
However, the difficulty and subtlety of such comparisons was not something that received much attention at the meeting. Neither, unfortunately, did the social-cultural milieu of the typical American high school. There was some implication (not dominant certainly, but present nonetheless) that if we can just find the right mix of high standards and testing tools, that will ameliorate the number of kids we are losing at the ninth-grade level and beyond. Anyone who's spent any time in a high school knows better than that.
One theme coming from the summit that I do think has relevance centers around the belief—which I share—that all students should graduate ready for some sort of post-secondary educational experience, be it the traditional four-year college, a community college, an apprenticeship or training program, or something else. All high schools need to be thoughtful about how they "reach down" to freshmen and sophomores to get that post-secondary planning started early.
There was also some political overlay to the
As time goes on, I may have a bit more to say on this. For now, we'll all want to watch carefully to see how, and if, this high school initiative develops.
Have a great week!
Randy Dunn
State Superintendent of Schools (Interim)
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The Illinois State Board of Education and Northern
Illinois University (NIU) announced the Illinois Honor Roll schools for the
2003-2004 school year last week in
The Honor Roll roster includes elementary, middle, and high schools, each of which made Adequate Yearly Progress (AYP) as defined by federal No Child Left Behind legislation.
For a list of the honorees and their accomplishments please go to www.isbe.net/news/2005/mar3_05.htm
Residency and homelessness
The Accountability Division has received numerous phone calls regarding the educational rights of the homeless. Many students who do not fit the stereotype of a homeless person are in fact homeless. Examples would be a student whose family is temporarily living with friends or relatives, students living in a shelter or students separated from their families. Parents of homeless students may enroll students without many of the customary proofs of residency that are often requested. For information on this topic please contact the Accountability Division at 217-782-2948 or visit ISBE's Homeless Education page at www.isbe.net/homeless/default.htm
Superintendents will soon receive an email broadcast asking their districts to verify the Operating Expense Per Pupil (OEPP), Per Capita Tuition Charge (PCTC), Indirect Cost Rate (ICR) and the School District Financial Profile Report.
Included in the broadcast will be a cover letter,
instructions and definitions to assist with the verification process. When the
broadcast is sent these reports will be available on the IWAS website. The
reports are generated from the School District Annual Financial Report (ISBE
Form 50-35) for the year ending
The email broadcast will be the only notice provided to
the district. Please contact ISBE if an email is not received by
Any questions regarding this notification or
verification process should be directed to Debbie Hemberger in School Business
and Support Services at 217-785-8779. Any questions regarding IWAS please
contact the
Advanced Placement Incentive Program (APIP) grants
The Illinois State Board of Education (ISBE) has
announced more than $250,000 in educational grant awards for 25 teams of
ISBE intends to fund 25 programs consisting of school teams of educators and administrators from eligible middle grade and/or high schools that serve high concentrations of low-income students and demonstrate a pervasive need for access to advanced placement incentive programs.
For additional information, please contact the Curriculum and Instruction Division at 217-557-7323.
ISAT and IMAGE testing begins
For most schools and districts ISAT and IMAGE testing begins next week. We have received numerous calls and have posted the Frequently Asked Questions and Answers on our Web site – www.isbe.net/assessment
If you have questions about administering the test, please do not hesitate to call us at 866-317-6034 or 217-782-4823.
The second step in the SchoolHouse data collection process is to enter your enrollment counts as of the first day of testing for grades 3, 5, and 8. The window is open from February 28-March 28 so those counts can be entered. These counts should reflect the number of grade 3, 5, and 8 students in total and in each subgroup for a home school—regardless of whether they are scheduled to take ISAT, IMAGE, or IAA, and regardless of whether they are scheduled to test at their home or receiving school. This should be done as soon as possible in order to assist in accurate data. To enter these enrollment counts, log in to www.ncsschoolhouse.com using the User ID and Password that was mailed to the district superintendent, and click on the Demographics tab.
For more information, please see our Web site, www.isbe.net/assessment/htmls/schoolhouse_data.htm
Invitation to comment on rules
One set of proposed amendments released for public comment by the State Board of Education at its February meeting has been posted on the agency's web site at www.isbe.net/rules; choose "Proposed Rules and Amendments". Please submit any comments or suggestions you may have to firstname.lastname@example.com.
Part 350 (Secular Textbook Loan)
The proposed amendments respond to two separate issues.
1. Section 18-17 of the School Code authorizes either a parent/guardian or a student to request the loan of a textbook under the Secular Textbook Loan Program. The rules implementing this provision, however, have stipulated the content of that request in such a way that it appears only a parent can request the loan of a textbook. Rather than stipulating the content of the request form, the proposed amendments would require that school districts establish procedures for parents/guardians and students to use when requesting the loan of a textbook and that information about the process be provided to parents in writing (e.g., student handbook, newsletter, flyer).
2. The rules set forth the deadlines by which applicants can request the purchase of textbooks through the loan program. Using the April 15 deadline currently in the rules, applicants found that the textbooks they ordered were sometimes not received by the start of the school year. Additionally, problems arose for the agency when vendors could not be paid by the end of the fiscal year for books ordered in that fiscal year.
Deadline for Public Comment:
The Qualified Zone Academy Bond (QZAB) program has been
extended for two more years as a result of the passage of the Working Families
Tax Relief Act of 2004 (P.L. 108-311). The implementing regulations provide that
For additional information please go to www.isbe.net/finance/pdf/QZAB_bond_program.pdf
Those Who Excel banquet – date and location change
Please note that this year's Those Who Excel banquet
will be held Saturday, April 16, at the Holiday Inn Select in
Enhancing Chemistry: A conference for chemistry teachers
The Illini Union
1401 W. Green
For more info & to register please visit http://www.conferences.uiuc.edu/enhancingchem
Much work completed in developing Student Information System in Illinois
To better respond to the new requirements of No Child
Left Behind (
The use of individual student records will:
An overview of the SIS plans, schedule and other details are at http://www.isbe.net/sis/.
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What Are "Blood Diamonds?"
The movie, Blood Diamond, traces the path of a large pink diamond found in Sierra Leone in the 1990's by a fisherman working as a slave in a rebel-controlled diamond mine. That diamond changed and ended many lives and the story of that stone carries a strong social message. The story is interesting fiction but it is based upon facts. The story can help you appreciate how a mineral resource can fuel the oppression and slaughter of thousands of people. This is not a first time phenomenon. It happened before in Africa with ivory and gold.
What Are "Conflict Diamonds"?
Blood Diamonds, also known as "Conflict Diamonds" are stones that are produced in areas controlled by rebel forces that are opposed to internationally recognized governments. The rebels sell these diamonds, and the money is used to purchase arms or to fund their military actions. Blood Diamonds are often produced through the forced labor of men, women and children. They are also stolen during shipment or seized by attacking the mining operations of legitimate producers. These attacks can be on the scale of a large military operation. The stones are then smuggled into the international diamond trade and sold as legitimate gems. These diamonds are often the main source of funding for the rebels, however, arms merchants, smugglers and dishonest diamond traders enable their actions. Enormous amounts of money are at stake and bribes, threats, torture, and murder are modes of operation. This is why the term "blood diamonds" is used.
What is the "Kimberly Process?"
The flow of Conflict Diamonds has originated mainly from Sierra Leone, Angola, Democratic Republic of Congo, Liberia and Ivory Coast. The United Nations and other groups are working to block the entry of conflict diamonds into the worldwide diamond trade. Their approach has been to develop a government certification procedure known as the "Kimberly Process". This procedure requires each nation to certify that all rough diamond exports are produced through legitimate mining and sales activity. All rough diamonds exported from these nations are to be accompanied by certificates. These certificates state that the diamonds were produced, sold and exported through legitimate channels. The certification process accounts for all rough diamonds, through every step of their movement, from mine to retail sale. Retail customers buying a cut diamond are encouraged to insist upon a sales receipt that documents that their diamond originated from a conflict free source.
"Conflict Free Diamonds"
Nations who agree to participate in the Kimberly process are not permitted to trade with nonmember Nations. The Kimberly Process is believed to have significantly reduced the number of Conflict Diamonds that are reaching international gem markets. Today 71 governments and several non-government organizations abide by the Kimberly Process. The only two nations which remain under Kimberly Process sanctions as of December, 2006 were Liberia and Ivory Coast. The World Diamond Council estimates that 99% of all diamonds are now conflict free.
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The legitimate diamond trade provides jobs for over 10 million workers and brings prosperity to areas where this activity occurs. Support of the Kimberly Process by all nations and consumers can convert slavery into jobs and smuggling into respected commerce. The efforts are working. Today, almost all of the diamonds brought to retail markets come from conflict free sources.
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VSC board meets on new chancellorBy Josh OGorman
VERMONT PRESS BUREAU | July 09,2014MONTPELIER Interim or permanent?
That was the question mulled over Tuesday by the Vermont State Colleges Board of Trustees as it looks at replacing Chancellor Tim Donovan, who is stepping down at the end of the year.
We dont have anyone in the wings, said board chairwoman Martha OConnor, who acknowledged she has heard from prospective candidates who are interested in the job. This is an open process that we need to go through. We want to hear what the presidents have to say and what the trustees have to say.
In June, the presidents of the five state colleges met during a retreat and drafted a list of attributes they wanted in a chancellor, which include the ability to manage a $200 million budget; be an effective communicator with students, staff and the public at large; and someone who will doggedly champion the state college system.
Wed like to see someone who will be a tough advocate with the governor and the legislators, someone who will have our collective back, said David Wolk, president of Castleton State College.
Notably absent from that list is an extensive background in the field of education in general, or with the VSC system specifically. Donovan has spent nearly 40 years in the VSC system, including a tenure as president of Community College of Vermont. His predecessor, Robert G. Clarke, was president of Vermont Technical College for 15 years.
Trustee Lynn Dickinson suggested looking to the private sector for a chancellor to head the VSC system.
They might have the experience of managing a $200 million budget without the experience in education, but might be more flexible and more willing to innovate, Dickinson said.
The bigger question for the trustees was whether the next appointment should take the form of an interim or a permanent chancellor, which led the trustees to weigh the pros and cons of each option.
An interim chancellor would give the board some breathing room to search for a permanent candidate. The conventional wisdom around the conference table Tuesday held that any candidate who meets the requirements for the job will likely already be employed and might not be ready to switch jobs.
Conventional wisdom also held that six months isnt enough time to perform a search for a permanent chancellor, a notion challenged by VTC Interim President Dan Smith, who suggested the trustees reach out to recruiting firms and get a professional opinion as to whether there is enough time or not.
Other college presidents questioned whether having an interim chancellor is a good idea.
It can postpone or defer loyalty if you dont know how long a person will be here, said Barbara Murphy, president of Johnson State College.
Joe Bertolino, president of Lyndon State College, noted that with recent turnovers of college presidents and some schools facing budget shortfalls and declining enrollment, the VSC system is facing instability.
I wonder if an interim appointment would add to the instability, Bertolino said.
The boards Executive Committee is expected to iron out a plan during its next meeting July 17, and return to the full board with a proposal July 31.
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Being sick slowed me down a bit, but it didn't stop me from plugging away at the computer when I could. Therefore, I managed to get January's Good Morning Work Packet (Math) up in my TPT shop.
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This month's pack covers a little bit of this and a little bit of that. Skills include: addition, subtraction, fact families, word problems, skip counting, place value, comparing/ordering numbers, odd + even, tallying, estimation, date writing, and more! Yes my friends . . . all of these common core standards for firsties are covered in one little pack! I aim to please :)
Sound like this is something for you? Well, why don't you "try 'em before you buy 'em!!" Here are three FREE pages for you to run with in your room. If you like them, come on back and snag the whole pack :)
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My most popular post this year was my WOW vs. BLAH Sentences Packet Review. If you follow me, you know I always like to shake up the "standard" quite a bit :). This one still makes me giggle!
I love to give freebies away on my little old bloggy blog. I try to link up with TBA every Friday (give or take a few) and I like to throw in some extra no-cost goods on the weekends. It seems that the fan favorite this year was Sketchin' Out Spooky Sentences.
There are SOOOOO many amazing educators that I have met on this journey. Ms. Susan Moran (Thank God It's First Grade), the eva-fabulous Katie King (Queen of the First Grade Jungle), and sweet Jessica Stanford (Mrs. Stanford's Class) will forever hold special places in my heart, but my love for others doesn't stop there. Steph, Alisha, Gladys, Oregon, Hadar, Squirrels, Michelle, Lori, Nicole, Vickie, DeAnne, Tessa, Cupcake, Holly, Arlene, Jen, Ashley, Monica, Heidi, Sandra, Kristen, Reagan . . . see . . . the list goes on and on and on (and I wasn't even through naming them all). You see, I can't narrow my faves down to just a few. That would be like asking a world traveler to narrow her favorite destinations down to two itty-bitty towns. Look down the side of my blog to catch all of those ladies who have made a HUGE difference in my life in 20-12!
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Time Out has just released the list of the 101 films of the decade. Browse the list and run to see the ones you're still missing…🙂
Here's reported the top ten:
- In the Mood for Love (2000)
- Hidden (2005)
- Spirited Away (2001)
- There Will Be Blood (2007)
- The lives of the Others (2006)
- The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007)
- Talk to Her (2002)
- Far From Heaven (2002)
- No Country for Old Men (2007)
- Ten (2002, Iran/Fr)
Just as a note, the only Italian movie included in the list (31st place) is The Son's Room (2001, It/Fr), directed by Nanni Moretti.
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Abstract #2855 -- Adoptive Immunotherapy with Autologous CD3/CD28-Costimulated T-Cells After Fludarabine-Based Chemotherapy in Patients with Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia
(SAN DIEGO) –– A new treatment using leukemia patients' own infection-fighting cells appears to protect them from infections and cancer recurrence following treatment with fludarabine-based chemotherapy, according to new research from the Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania. The new process is a step toward eliminating the harsh side effects that result from the commonly prescribed drug, which improves progression-free survival in patients with chronic lymphocytic leukemia (CLL) but destroys patients' healthy immune cells in the process, leaving them vulnerable to serious viral and bacterial infections. The drug's effects on the immune system tend to be so violent that it has been dubbed "AIDS in a bottle."
Today at the 53rd American Society of Hematology Annual Meeting, the research team will present results showing how they use a patient's own T cells to repair his or her immune system after fludarabine treatment. With a restored immune system, patients can stop taking prophylactic antibiotics and may have prolonged progression-free survival.
"Fludarabine is a double-edged sword," says Stephen J. Schuster, MD, an associate professor in the division of Hematology-Oncology and director of the Lymphoma Program at Penn's Abramson Cancer Center. "Although it is very active at killing CLL cells, it is also very active at killing normal cells in the immune system, particularly T lymphocytes, which are the master regulators of the immune system. So you rid the patient of their disease, but you also rid them of a normal immune system."
Thirty-four patients enrolled in the multicenter study. Prior to chemotherapy treatment, the researchers isolated healthy T lymphocytes from each patient's blood. When the patient finished chemotherapy, the team grew the T cells in Penn's Clinical Cell and Vaccine Production Facility using a technique developed at the Penn that induces them to proliferate rapidly. The researchers then infused the expanded T cells back into the patient. "What we showed was that by giving them back their own T cells after treatment, we can restore patients' immune systems," Schuster said.
"Within four weeks of the T cell infusion, their T cell counts were within the normal range."
After chemotherapy and prior to T cell infusion, the median CD4 T cell count for fludarabine-treated patients was 119 cells/ml blood and the median CD8 T cell count was 80 cells/ml. Thirty days after the patients received the infusion of their own T cells, the median cell counts were in the normal range, at 373 cells/ml and 208 cells/ml for CD4 and CD8 cells, respectively. The T cell numbers remained in the normal range beyond 90 days, leading Schuster and colleagues to conclude that the autologous T cell transfer repaired the immune system of patients.
Although all of the patients' T cell counts returned to the normal range after treatment, not all patients responded equally well to the T cell therapy. Patients who had a complete response to chemotherapy had a more robust T cell recovery than did patients who had only a partial response. "We believe that having a complete remission of CLL seems to create a larger space for the normal immune cells to expand into," Schuster says. "Somehow, the cancer seems to interfere with recovery of the immune system."
In addition to quashing the complications ordinarily associated with treatment, the team hopes that the restored immune system will help keep the cancer in check. At a median follow-up of 14 months after T cell infusion, two-thirds of the patients remain progression-free. Longer follow up will be needed to compare treatment results for patients receiving T cells with published results for patients receiving similar chemotherapy without T cell support.
What is clear from the small trial is that patients can safely stop prophylactic antibiotic therapy after their T cell numbers rebound. Physicians regularly keep CLL patients on extended prophylactic antibiotic therapy to help stave off infections. In this study, though, patients stopped taking antibiotics about a month after receiving T cells without developing significant infections.
In addition to the Penn researchers, investigators from the MD Anderson Cancer Center, the Baylor College of Medicine, Texas Children's Hospital, and the Methodist Hospital in Houston also participated in the study.
The study was funded by the CLL Global Research Foundation.
This research will be presented Sunday, December 11, 2011 between 6 PM and 8 PM in Hall GH of the San Diego Convention Center.
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The Perelman School of Medicine has been ranked among the top five medical schools in the United States for the past 17 years, according to U.S. News & World Report's survey of research-oriented medical schools. The School is consistently among the nation's top recipients of funding from the National Institutes of Health, with $392 million awarded in the 2013 fiscal year.
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New Texas abortion restrictions that would have affected more than a dozen clinics were thrown out by a federal judge on Friday, The Associated Press reported.
U.S. District Judge Lee Yeakel sided with clinics that sued over a sweeping anti-abortion bill signed by Republican Gov. Rick Perry last year, the AP reported.
The halted restrictions would have left seven abortion facilities in Texas by Sept. 1, the wire service said. There are currently 19 abortion providers in Texas.
"The overall effect of the provisions is to create an impermissible obstacle as applied to all women seeking a previability abortion," AP said Yeakel wrote in his 21-page ruling.
The law would have required abortion facilities in Texas to meet hospital-level operating standards, which supporters say will protect women's health, AP said.
But clinics called it a backdoor effort to outlaw abortions, which have been a constitutional right since the Roe v. Wade ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1973, AP reported.


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