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The New York Knicks(18-39) vs The Atlanta Hawks(23-32)
Fri. 2/29 at 7:30pm ET on MSG
Welcome to the MSGKnickz33 Pregame show, Im your host Jazzy Jeff and its time to break down Friday nights game against the Hawks. The Knicks have won 4 out of their last 10 games, including a 24 point win over the Charlotte Bobcats on Wednesday night. Jamal Crawford played well, scoring 20 points (7-13). He made some nice passes, had some nice crossovers, and played only 33 minutes, finally gettin some rest. This Knicks team has talent, but they rarely decide to play as a team.
The Atlanta Hawks are sinking, winning only 2 out of their last 10 games. They are one game out of the 8th spot, behind the New Jersey Nets. Analysts and Knicksonline posters have predicted the Hawks will finally be a playoff team (Including myself and Charles Barkley). The recent acquisition of Mike Bibby should make it a guarentee, despite the recent slide. Bibby had a huge game against his former team, the Kings, on Wednesday night scoring 24 points. He also dished out 12 assists and snatched 5 rebounds.
The Atlanta Hawks
pg-Mike Bibby
sg-Joe Johnson
sf-Josh Smith
pf-Marvin Williams
C-Al Horford
*Marvin Williams is listed as day-to-day
MSG33 PresEnTs the KeY MatChuP: Joe Johnson vs Jamal Crawford
Jamal Crawford
Yes, Crawford deserves credit for his offensive officiency over the last 5 games. His turnovers are high and his defense is terrible, but on offense he has been gettin the job done. Lets take a look at his numbers from the 5 most recent games:
Even the shooting percentages are good this time. I would still like to see the 3PT% higher, but the fg% is as high as it will get when your talkin about Crawford. Thats a good percentage for any shooting guard.
8.4 field goals made per game
18 field goals attempted per game
3.4 3PT made per game
9.4 3PT attempted per game
One last quick note, Crawford has attempted 47 3pointers and 25 freethrows over the last 5 games. He has hit 23 out of 25 free throws.
Joe Johnson (Last 5 Games)
While Joe Johnson needs to cut back on the turnovers, the rest of his numbers would be welcomed on the Knicks. He does an excellent job of gettin his teammates involved, rebounding, and scoring. Crawford cannot guard Joe Johnson, but can Joe Johnson guard Crawford? Its not really a matter of an opponent stopping Crawford, Crawford stops himself by not going to the basket enough and having a poor shot selection.
The Official MSG33 Pregame Strategy:
- Box Out!!!!! Rebounds: ATL-10th(42.4rpg) NYK-17th(41.8rpg)
- Look to establish either Curry or Randolph early in the game
- If Josh Smith is too elusive for Q-Rich, bring Balkman off the bench
- Dont forget they have Mike Bibby now
Player Spotlight
Quentin Richardson slowly continues to get better and better. Known for not backing down, Q has had the right mentality this year. Hes been a step slow but his dunk against the Bobcats on Wednesday was a good sign as he went up strong.
Quentin Richardson-February Stats
- 28.8mpg
- 10.2ppg
- 43.4fg%
- 4.6rpg
- 1.4apg
- .9spg
Over the last 5 games, hes averaging 11 points per game. The Knicks as a team are in desperate need of defense. Earlier in the season Q was too slow to play and defense and he couldnt make a shot. Now hes shootin better and playing more defense. He's still not the player from last year, but its good to see him contributing again.
Eastern Conference Standings
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- Pistons(42-16)-3GB
- Magic(37-23)-9GB
- Raptors(32-24)12GB
- Cavs(32-26)-13GB
- Wizards(27-30)17.5GB
- 76ers(26-32)19GB
- Nets(25-32)19.5GB
- Hawks(23-32)20.5GB
- Bulls(23-34)21.5GB
- Bucks(22-35)22.5GB
- Pacers(22-36)23.5GB
- Bobcats(19-38)25.5GB
- Knicks(18-39)26.5GB
- Heat(10-44)33GB
The Official Playoff Race: Knicks are 7 games out
- The Magic have held down the #3 spot for a while, keeping the distance between 8 and 9 games
- The 76ers have climbed to the #7 spot, many thought they would be the only bad team in the Eastern Conference
- Miami Sucks
- The Knicks Suck
- The Bulls suck
Lets look at what is the opposite of the standings, the race for the worst record in the league. Suprisingly the Knicks managed to somehow be in the hunt for both the #8 spot in the playoffs and the worst record in the league. One outcome is much more likely then the other.
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- Bobcats(19-38)7.5GB
- Clippers(19-36)8.5GB
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- Hawks(23-32)12.5GB
- Nets(25-32)13.5GB
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- Kings(26-31)18.5GB
The Knicks are 7 Games away from having the #8 spot in the playoffs, and 6.5 games away from having the worst record.
The 76ers and Nets are currently 7th and 8th in the East, but both of them are in the lottery having the 12th and 13th worst records. Has this ever happened before?
Out of the 14 teams with the worst records, 9 of them are Eastern Conference teams.
Lets compare numbers from the first 4 months of the NBA season.
November(5-11):Opponents Points per game=101.5
93.1ppg,43.4rpg,17apg,42.9fg%,32.2%3P,70.2FT%,6.9s pg,3.2bpg
December(3-11):Opponents Points per game=102.6
94.6ppg,41.3rpg,16.4apg,42.6fg%,33.1%3P,70.7FT%,6. 7spg,1.5bpg
January(6-10):Opponents Points per game=98.8
96.4ppg,40.4rpg,21.3apg,46.1fg%,35.2%3P,74.4FT%,5. 8spg,2.2bpg
February(4-8):Opponents Points per game=101.75
97.3ppg,42.4rpg,19.8apg,44.7fg%,33.3%3P,76FT%,5.7s pg,2.5bpg
What stands out to me is that Marcus Camby is almost blocking 4 shots a game while the Knicks are averaging only 2.5 blocks per game for the month of February. In December, the Knciks only blocked 1.5 shots per game.
Hawks Top 3 Point shooters
- Tyronn Lue-43.5%
- Mike Bibby-39.4%
- Joe Johnson-37.4%
- Salim Stoudamire-29.8%
- Josh Childress-29.4%
- Josh Smith-24.3%
Tyronn Lue only plays 17 minutes per game, so hopefully he doesnt have enough time to cause alot of damage from the perimeter against the Knicks. His numbers will drop with the acquisition of Mike Bibby. The Knicks will have problems defendin Joe Johnson, not just from 3 point range.
Josh Smith is an extremely athletic young player who can give Q-Rich alot of problems. The Knicks mite look to go to Balkman, but Smith is stronger, taller, and even more athletic then Balkman. The Hawks should be a lock for the playoffs with Mike Bibby, they have good players at every position and there bench isnt too bad.
Rookie Al Horford has been a force down low, .7 points away from averaging a double double. Hes also blockin 1 shot a game, not to far behind the entire Knicks team. Smith is blocking an impressive 3.11 shots per game, thats more then the entire Knicks team. Marvin Williams is a solid all around player, who can give the Knicks matchup problems if he plays. Williams is built like a sf but the Hawks play small ball, because of their athleticism. They will be one of the funnest teams to watch for a long time.
Josh childress is a 6'8" 210 pound small forward, who can also play the guard positions. Hes an efficient scorer who also hellps out on the boards. The Knicks will have their hands full with the athletic, versatile Hawks who are better then their record indicates.
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Knicks upcoming Schedule:
- Fri, Feb 29 @ Atlanta 7:30 pm ET
- Sat, Mar 1 @ Orlando 7:00 pm ET
- Mon, Mar 3 vs New Orleans 7:30 pm ET
- Wed, Mar 5 vs Cleveland 7:30 pm ET
- Fri, Mar 7 vs Detroit 7:30 pm ET
- Sat, Mar 8 vs Portland 7:30 pm ET
That does it for my pregame show. I thank everyone for joining me and remember to tune in Friday night to catch the Knicks and the Hawks.
Last edited by MSGKnickz33; Feb 28, 2008 at 16:33.
man we need to beat these fags i wanna the knicks to hace at least a small winnig straek
No way...I want them to lose lose lose so Dolan can finally fire Isiah and we can have a good chance of winning the lottery.
I haven't seen them play with Bibby yet. It may be a minute before they start to gel. I wonder if Bibby is in their long term plans though,
Good game thread, I voted for Marcus Camby, only because of his shot blocking. I think Boruc Bowen should have been a part of that list. He might not average much steals, or blocks, but he is a force that is not on the stat list.
Oh yeah, Marvin Williams I can't believe he got picked second over Deron Wiliiams, CP3, and Felton. That draft was always favoring Andrew Bogut too, by the way.
Should be
1.CP3... in the Bucks.. zzzz. They did have Mo Williams but they did needs a center.
2.D. Williams for the Hawks. That would really help, now that they have Al Horford.
3.Felton Jazz
15th. Marvin Williams
He isnt that bad but this is worse.
1st LeBron.
2nd Milicic DET.
3rd Anthony....
4th. Bosh.
5h. Wade.
How did Milicic get up there ????
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Hes not greater then all the other players in that draft.
My poll has to do with a recent argument, its for pf's and centers only. I realized after i shouldve put Yao ming on there. I know i did a similar poll recently, I think it was askin whos the best big man in the NBA. Since I limited it to defense, now Marcus Camby has become an option.
Camby is arguably the best defensive big man in the league, he did get defensive player of the year last year even though he deserved it the past 2 years. Maybe he'll get it again this year, almost blockin 4 shots a game.
I actually think Yao sometimes is a softy like 3 years ago or his rookie year. Thanks to Patrick Ewing, and Van Gundy he actually got better defensively a 2 years ago and now.
I agree, he is soft at times. Not as bad as he use to be, thanks to the former knicks you mentioned. We need them to toughen up Curry.
as you heard from Metro, and his post, and the medias, its impossible, Eddy Curry will not change. Randolph Morris should at least get 8 minutes a game, or is he out with some injury?
Atlanta looked good against the Kings yesterday. I am torn between winning and trying to get Isiah fired.
Its hard to tell whats goin on with Morris, he just sits on the bench collectin dust. Isiah is gonna have to wipe him down (no homo) whenever he decides to play him.
I voted for Marcus Camby. I think everyone on the list would be great for the Knicks, though, and everyone on the list is a very good defender.The Knicks have had a lot of interesting games against Atlanta, in recent years. For some reason, both teams have been very competitive against each other. I'm a Knick fan, so I'm gonna say the Knicks win. But to be honest, I have no idea how this one will turn out.Both teams have some scorers and both teams have injuries(Marvin Williams day-to-day and Josh Childress; Knicks Marbury).This one should be very interesting.
I think Atlantas gonna run up the score on us.
The Official MSG33 Pregame Prediction: Hawks 112 Knicks 86
Cambys takin this poll, last years defensive player of the year. Will he get it again this year? Almost 4 blocks a game, and over 14 rebounds per game.........I think so.
Anyone got predictions on this game?


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This season, the Museum moved its collection of 19th century pastels to a new gallery. As a result, we made some small but significant changes to our 19th-century wing—a particular strength of the Simon collection. To mark the reinstallation, Curator Leah Lehmbeck addresses some of the fundamental narratives that run throughout these remarkable galleries. In highlighting paintings by Manet, Renoir, Degas, Monet, Van Gogh and Vuillard, she traces the early artistic developments that led to Impressionism as well as discussing the various artistic experiments that followed.
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Josh Perkins was a spectator last Sunday night.
The Caldwell High football coach was in attendance at the the 68th annual Rudy Mumley Ohio Valley Athletic Conference All-Star Game at Wheeling Island Stadium.
Perkins was there to cheer for former Redskins' tackle Brian Magorien, who played on the Ohio stars side. Ohio ended up dropping a 28-19 decision to the West Virginia stars.
That pretty much finishes the 6-foot-3, 270-pound Magorien's football career as he's planning on continuing his education at The Ohio State University in Columbus. Playing football evidently is not in the cards.
Too bad, because with Magorien's frame and size, he probably could've suited up on the gridiron at a smaller college somewhere. But there's no question that he has his priorities in order – education.
"He's a pretty smart kid," Perkins said.
At Caldwell, Magorien was an All-Ohio honorable mention, All-Eastern District, All-PVC, and All-OVAC in football.
Also competing in the Rudy Mumley all-star tilt were Monroe Central's Korey Lafferre and Josh Guiler.
Incidentally, the 5-10, 160-pound Lafferre, who rushed and threw for almost 2,000 yards and 21 touchdowns as a Seminole senior will be playing for the West Liberty University Hilltoppers this fall.
Lafferre also played in the Battle Against Cystics Fibrosis Football Classic at Don Drumm Stadium in June.
Meanwhile, for Perkins, it's back to the football drawing board. Caldwell, like many Ohio prep schools, is scheduled to officially kick off two-a-days late Monday afternoon and early evening.
The Redskins, 2-8 overall in 2012, will be in Ohio Division VII this upcoming season.
Marietta High 2011 graduate Justin Futrell was a three-sport letterwinner in baseball, basketball, and football when he was a Tiger student/athlete.
The 6-foot-3, 175-pound Futrell is still playing football at Cornell College in Mount Vernon, Ia. On the Rams' 2013 roster, he's listed as a sophomore quarterback.
Last year, Futrell was honored as Cornell's scout team Offensive Player of the Year.
Futrell's Tiger teammates' Mitchel Gearhart and Dustin Baker briefly played football at Gannon (Pa.) University and Thiel (Pa.) College, respectively. Both Gearhart and Baker are now focusing on their education.
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This past spring, the 6-3, 190-pound Herstine was a right-handed-throwing pitcher, who posted a 2-0 record with a 6.75 ERA, on the Brian Brewer-coached Pioneer baseball team.
To the best of my knowledge, the last Pioneer to play both baseball and football at MC was Chris Sidick, who later played professionally for the Washington (Pa.) Wild Things in the independent Frontier League.
Kyle Lindquist was a two-sport letterwinner at MC in baseball and basketball, which he played only one winter. Lindquist currently pitches for the Gary (In.) Southshore Railcats in the Frontier League.
Then, there was Krissy Rowe, an MC letterwinner in both women's basketball and track and field.
Needless to say, it's not easy getting an education and playing two sports in college.
Some other local freshmen on MC's tentative football roster are Williamstown kicker Garret Butler, Warren kicker Chas Miller, Belpre wide receiver Cody Martin, Parkersburg High kicker Codey Roney, and Fort Frye running back Max Alsbach, who helped the Cadets earn a playoff berth last season.
In case you're wondering, Cambridge Post 84 was eliminated by Circleville Post 134, 13-3, in seven innings in the double-elimination American Legion State Baseball Tournament at Beavers Field in Lancaster Tuesday. On Monday, Post 84 dropped a 9-7 decision to Sandusky Post 83.
Host Cambridge was the team that ousted Beverly/Lowell Post 389/750 in the District 11 tournament at Don Coss Field to advance to state.
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As soon as the election returns had been tallied enough to declare a winner, the e-mails started. In just a few short hours, I started to get missives telling me that the 2nd Amendment was going to be tossed out the window and guns would be banned.
When President Obama was elected in 2008, it spurred a tremendous boom in gun, ammunition and accessory sales. It seems that the prevailing sentiment was that the new Commander-in-Chief was going to ban guns in our country.
This time around it took less than twelve hours for the email messages stating that our 2nd Amendment was in jeopardy, to start flowing. The most popular message was that the United Nations was going to order a vote on its world-wide weapons ban and that the U.S. had decided to be a part of it.
I don't really understand the U.N. and I am very confused by all of the talk about a weapons ban. I have read enough material about the subject to make my head hurt. After all is said and done, I believe that this whole issue is one that I am not going to fret about. I do not see us ever having our guns taken away.
I am not trying to be a Pollyanna here. I do not fear a countrywide ban.
What I do fear are restrictive and punitive taxes and regulations being put on guns and ammunition at the state and local levels. Heck, we see this happening all of the time. I believe that we have to keep vigilant about this.
All of that said, I wondered if we were experiencing a huge boom in gun sales after the re-election like we did after Obama's initial victory in 2008. When I have a question like this, I go to my "go-to-guy" on the subject, Bill Preskar from HP Shooting Center on Route 120 in McHenry.
I like Bill and both his shop and his range. The shop and range are relaxed and non-intimidating. It's a friendly place where you feel like you belong and would be able to take the entire family. Preskar is a laid-back individual who is able to intelligently explain his facts and opinions in a clear and concise manner without letting emotion color his thoughts.
I asked him if he was being swamped with business since Election Day. He replied, "Yes, Steve, business is good but there isn't the strong panic buying like there was the last time. It seems to me that business is good on the distributor and manufacturer level. I think that the distributors placed a lot of orders anticipating a boom in sales but the retailers aren't seeing it, at least not yet."
Don't get me wrong. Business is quite fine. People are interested in new purchases. They are interested in training and are interested in practicing to become better shooters. What I do not see is the panic buying and massive hoarding like we saw four years ago."
I told Bill that from a purely anecdotal point of view, I felt that the number of people getting interested in hunting and shooting was growing and some of it was coming from other than traditional sources. I have heard from a number of women asking for referrals for shooting training. The number of complaints I usually hear from ladies in regard to the lack of availability of women's hunting clothing and equipment has easily doubled as of late.
I've even been asked by my entire family to arrange a group outing to a pistol range. I couldn't believe my ears when the request was made. The plan was actually hatched by my daughter and my daughter-in-law. They both said that they were submitting their applications for FOID cards. I told them this was unnecessary for a day outing at a range but they said that they really wanted to own the cards. Just a couple years ago, these women would have been repelled by the thought of firing a gun. Times have certainly changed.
I don't know the exact cause, but I believe the word is quickly spreading that shooting handguns at a range is safe and controlled and is, plain and simple, a lot of fun. We, as human beings, thrive on competition and shooting at targets next to a friend and comparing scores certainly meets that, doesn't it?
Jim Shepherd, publisher of "The Shooting Wire," has reported a number of facts he has gleaned in conversations with industry people from coast-to-coast: Modern sporting rifles are selling briskly, but handguns are dominating sales; ranges have never been busier; gunsmiths are being overwhelmed with guns coming in for deep cleaning and maintenance; 2012 will be characterized by double-digit growth for gun sales in most areas and low triple-digit growth in hot locations.
Shepherd says that "Recent newcomers continue buying second, or third guns because they've discovered they really enjoy shooting. They say fun, not fear, fuels their purchases."
I concluded my visit with Bill Preskar by tossing around a couple of opinions regarding this whole U.N. issue and we seemed to agree that nothing dire for gun owners seemed imminent. It looked to us both that the shooting sports are in a good state of affairs for the time being.
• Northwest Herald outdoors columnist Steve Sarley's radio show, "The Outdoors Experience," airs live at 5 a.m. Sundays on AM-560. Sarley also runs a Web site for outdoors enthusiasts, OExperience.com. He can be reached by e-mail at firstname.lastname@example.com.
Hunting/fishing report
Northern Illinois: Dave Kranz from Dave's Bait, Tackle and Taxidermy in Crystal Lake reports: "This season's rut seems to be what I would call a trickle rut. The most dominant bucks have found their first does and are looking for another. Waterfowl hunters are seeing a lot of birds both field hunting and water hunts.
It is not too early to get your ice gear in order. It will be here before you know it. I have had good reports from muskie fisherman using 9- to 12-inch suckers." Call 815-455-2040 for updated reports.
For up-to-the-minute water conditions on the Fox Chain and Fox River, visit foxwaterway.state.il.us/ or call 847-587-8540.
Wisconsin: Call Wisconsin's Lake Michigan Fishing Hotline at 414-382-7920 to hear the latest fishing information for Lake Michigan and its tributaries.
Archery deer season
Through Sunday, Illinois archery deer hunters harvested 41,025 deer. Last year's preliminary harvest for the same period was 40,509 and the five-year average for 2007 to 2011 was 41,727. The harvest to date consists of 51 percent does, but male harvest continued to climb during the past week as rutting activity increased. Males comprised about 66 percent of the weekly harvest total. The top five counties to date are Pike (1,867), Fulton (1,366), Jefferson (924), Adams (920) and JoDaviess (846). The totals for local Illinois counties showing 2011/2012 are: Kane 196/189, Lake 228/234, McHenry 375/418 and Winnebago 261/309.
Sportsmen's legislation
In the next couple of days, the Senate is expected to vote on the most comprehensive package of sportsmen's legislation in recent years. The Sportsmen's Act of 2012 includes 15 bills that will benefit the sportfishing community, as well as recreational shooters and hunters. This legislation provides for increased access, habitat conservation and improved fish and wildlife management. Anglers want to make an impact and "KeepAmericaFishing" is a way to channel their concern and passion for our sport and help pass this essential piece of legislation. Please visit KeepAmericaFishing.org/sportsmensact and follow it to the "Take Action Now" page. This is a simple way to send a message to your legislators urging them to support this important legislation.
Firearm deer season
Illinois hunters will head to the field this week for the state's busiest and most popular hunting season, the Illinois Firearm Deer Season. It begins Friday and runs through Sunday. The seven-day firearm hunt will conclude Nov. 29 through Dec. 2. In 2011, Illinois hunters harvested 98,820 deer during the seven-day firearm deer hunting season. This season, about 334,000 permits have been issued. For information on remaining permits, check the Illinois Department of Natural Resources website at dnr.illinois.gov/hunting/deer. The legal hunting hours for the firearm deer season are one-half hour before sunrise to one-half hour after sunset.
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Hi folks, just wondering how do you know the difference between a diarrea (sorry spelt incorrectly i know!) and a breast milk nappy if toddler has done lots of nursing?
I would look at the frequency of the bms.
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Diarrhea is runny and watery. Breast milk poo is soft but not watery.
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GE remains REDC's crown jewelBy Bruce Edwards
STAFF WRITER | November 19,2012Albert J. Marro / Staff Photo
Rutland Economic Development Corp. named General Electric Member of the Year at its 75th anniversary gala and annual meeting Friday night at the Holiday Inn in Rutland Town. GE plant manager Dan DiBattista, center, and members of his team accept the award from REDC President Dale Rocheleau, right.Sixty-one years ago, a group of Rutland business leaders persuaded General Electric Co. to relocate its Ludlow machine tool plant to the city.
The rest, as they say, is history. And as Jamie Stewart said Friday night at the Rutland Economic Development Corp.'s 75th annual meeting, the economic landscape of the Rutland region would be far different today if not for GE and its aircraft engine plants.
The company's economic contributions and that of its employees garnered GE Aviation REDC's Member of the Year award.
"It would be a very, very different community without them," Stewart, REDC's executive director, told a packed ballroom of guests at the Holiday Inn.
If there was any doubt about GE's economic contributions, Stewart ticked off a list of statistics. He said it goes well beyond the 1,100 high-paying jobs at the Columbian Avenue and Windcrest Road plants, which make a variety of air foils for military and commercial jet engines.
"It's the total impact because those people earn a living and spend money in our community and those dollars go around and around," he said.
Stewart said those dollars add up to a total economic impact of more than $650 million a year.
He said that in turn translates into supporting 3,116 additional jobs in the community from the local grocery stores to construction companies.
According to Stewart, GE's total annual tax impact is $61.5 million, not including local property taxes.
Beyond the economic numbers, Stewart said GE employees volunteer 1,800 hours a year in the community, including work on the Rutland Creek Path and Pine Hill Park projects.
Accepting the award on behalf of his staff and employees, GE Plant Manager Dan DiBattista said the honor speaks to the support from the larger community.
"... When I look at all these banners behind me, banks, schools, hospitals, and all the organizations, other employers, companies like ours don't survive without all that," DiBattista said.
Undoubtedly, recruiting GE was REDC's greatest success story; but it hasn't been the only one. The annual meeting celebrated REDC's 75-year history with a slide show titled, "The Art of the Deal." REDC, then known as the Rutland Development Corp., got its start in 1937 by building the first municipal parking lot downtown at the corner of Willow and Edson streets, the site of the current parking deck. From there, the group evolved into economic development.
Stewart said REDC's early success was due in large part to Albert Cree, the head of Central Vermont Public Service Corp., and Robert Mitchell, a reporter and later publisher of the Rutland Herald.
But Stewart said it was Cree, with his forceful personality, who was the driver behind REDC's early success for the first 18 years.
Chris Keyser, a former REDC board member and the organization's de facto historian, said in reviewing REDC's history a common theme emerges of "the immense amount of time and resources that have been invested by volunteers."
Keyser singled out volunteers like Al Moulton of the Rutland Region Chamber of Commerce and businessman Roland Seward, who had a vision, commitment and the perseverance to get things done.
REDC, one of a dozen regional development organizations in the state, was responsible for attracting companies that included Moore Business Forms, Metromail and U.S Samica.
Moore and Metromail are no longer here, but other companies have taken their place.
REDC's Airport Business Park is home to 10 companies with more than 800 workers. REDC has also had a hand in development of the Cold River Industrial Park, West Rutland Industrial Park and Brandon Industrial Park.
REDC President Dale Rocheleau said the organization's mission continues to be working to strengthen the economy and improve the quality of life.
"We are dedicated to the creation and retention of good jobs in a clean environment for working Vermonters and their families," Rocheleau said.
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Wilfrid Laurier University has appointed Martha Hook McGregor to the position of Director, Institutional Strategy and Analytics, effective Sept. 16.
Hook McGregor joined Lauriers office of Institutional Research and Planning as a project manager earlier this year. She has undergraduate degrees in mathematics and education and a masters degree in business administration. She has held positions in Canada, the United States, Europe, the Middle East and Africa. She has worked as a teacher, project manager, executive search consultant and management consultant. Martha has extensive change management experience. She has been a change management project team member for the redesign and implementation of two global recruitment management systems for a strategy consulting firm, and for the implementation of an insurance company's national learning management system.
Martha brings a strong background in strategy, systems and change management, said Laurier President Max Blouw. Her skills and experience will be a valuable asset as Laurier continues to improve its ability to generate and make use of institutional analytics for evidence-based decision making.
Hook McGregor succeeds Orna Duggan, who is leaving Laurier Sept. 20 to pursue further graduate education and an opportunity in the private sector in her home country of Ireland.
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Knox music royalty pays homage to Woody Guthrie
The Laurel Theater, that esteemed church-turned-concert-venue in Knoxville Fort Sanders neighborhood, is a beautiful setting in which to see a show, and it'll be the perfect setting for a "History Songs: A Celebration of the Life of Woody Guthrie" that's scheduled for 8 p.m. Friday, Oct. 19.
To celebrate the 100th birthday of the American folk music icon, local artists — including Maggie Longmire, R.B. Morris, Jack Herranen, Sarah Pirkle, Jeff Barbra, Greg Horne and Daniel Kimbro — will gather to recreate Guthrie's canon, from his dustbowl ballads and traveling songs to his more political songs and writings. When we caught up with Longmire earlier this month, she said the concert is a small token of appreciation on the part of East Tennessee musicians for Guthrie's influence over the years.
"It's something we're looking forward to," Longmire said. "There are shows going on all year to commemorate this, and some of the big guys are doing their shows at places like the Kennedy Center, but I think this one will be real interesting. It'll be a mix of music and spoken word, and with everyone we've got, it won't be a straight-edge show."
Longmire counts among her favorite Guthrie songs "Deportee (Plane Wreck at Los Gatos)," Guthrie's tale of a plane crash of undocumented Mexicans on their way south out of California, and his scatching indictment of the treatment of the dead.
"You know how you have a song that sort of impacts you? There's something about that one that tied it together, the telling of these horrific stories through folk songs, for me," she said. "Sometimes, things just kind of line up, and that's one I connected with and sang as a young folk singer."
More information about Guthrie can be found here; the concert, which takes place at the Laurel (1538 Laurel Ave. in Fort Sanders), costs $12.


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Duhon sucks as your sole PG, but with a solid PG like Jameer Nelson I wouldnt mind having him as a backup. Is an upgrade over Anthony Johnson
Q-Rich makes no sense to me at all! All I can think of is the fact that they shoot a lot of 3's....but Q-Rich has not ever shown (even in his glory days with the Suns) that he can be a consistient shooter!
Al Harrington like Duhon is a nice player off the bench, he too is not a go to player, but if I had an established starting 5 Al is the type of player I would like coming off the bench. He can provide a major lift and when he is bricking shots, just sit him down! But gave us 40 off the bench this season, slide him to the 4 to spread the floor for Dwight.....not a great defender, but not David Lee either. I actually like this move if it goes down
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For Immediate Release
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ISBE Selects10 Finalists for Illinois Teacher of the Year
2009-10 Illinois Teacher of the Year to be announced in October
SPRINGFIELD – The Illinois State Board of Education (ISBE) announced today the names of 10 finalists for the 2009-10 Illinois Teacher of the Year. The finalists, representing schools across the state, are selected from nominees through ISBE's 'Those Who Excel' educator recognition program.
"Good teachers lead their students and themselves to excellence," said State Superintendent of Education Christopher A. Koch. "These 10 Illinois educators reflect the passion and dedication of teachers across the state who strive to make a difference each day and develop successful learners. The 'Those Who Excel' program provides the state with an opportunity to celebrate the achievements of these teachers and thank them for their tireless devotion and exemplary skills."
Nearly 175 nominations were reviewed this year by a selection committee comprised of administrators, teachers, school board members, representatives from educational service personnel, student support personnel, and former Illinois Teachers of the Year.
Each nomination is individually reviewed and scored three times. Nominations are scored based on personal background information, the nominator's recommendation, and letters of recommendation. In addition, nominees must answer questions focusing on student success, collaboration, continuous learning, and leadership. Scores are compiled and averaged to determine the level of recognition nominees will receive (Excellence, Merit, or Recognition).
Teachers earning an Award of Excellence become finalists for Illinois Teacher of the Year.
The 2009-2010 Illinois Teacher of the Year will be announced during the Those Who Excel banquet October 24, 2009, at the Pere Marquette Hotel in Peoria. The Teacher of the Year represents Illinois at NASA Space Camp in Huntsville, Alabama, and in the National Teacher of the Year Program sponsored by the Council of Chief State School Officers and ING.
The 2008-2009 Illinois Teacher of the Year is Linda Smerge, a second grade teacher from Woodrow Wilson Elementary School in Cicero School District 99.
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Illinois Teacher of the Year Finalists
Robert Canada teaches fifth-grade at Columbus Elementary School in Edwardsville CUSD 7.
Amy Garcia is an Alternative Education Teacher for grades 9-12 at Homewood-Flossmoor Community High School in Flossmoor in Homewood-Flossmoor CHSD 233.
Connie Harling teaches fourth-graders at Witt Elementary School in Hillsboro CUSD 3.
Anastasia (Ann) Metaxatos is an English/Reading Teacher for students in the 12th grade at James B. Conant High School, Hoffman Estates, in Township High School District 211.
Cathryn Olsen teaches Pre-K at Benjamin Franklin Early Childhood Center in Mt. Vernon.
Ann Rodman is a Family and Consumer Science teacher at Oswego High School in Oswego CUSD 308.
Kevin Rutter teaches Economics to students in grades 10-12 at Carl Schurz High School in Chicago School District 299.
Tim Schnoeker is an Industrial Technology/Vocational Education teacher at Coulterville High School in Coulterville USD 1.
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TCL > May 2013 Issue > Formal Opinion No. 78—Disqualification of the Advocate/Witness (Revised June 18, 1994, May 10, 1997, October 20, 2012, and February 2, 2013)
Introduction and Scope
This opinion provides ethical guidance when a lawyer who will serve as an advocate at trial or another lawyer in the trial advocate's firm may also be called as a witness. The opinion also discusses the ethical limitations and considerations of subpoenaing or disclosing another party's trial advocate (or another lawyer in the trial advocate's firm) as a witness or potential witness.
Although Rule 3.7 of the Colorado Rules of Professional Conduct (Colo. RPC or Rules) is most often invoked as the basis for a motion to disqualify another party's lawyer, rather than as the basis for lawyer discipline, this opinion does not purport to be a legal opinion regarding the circumstances under which a motion to disqualify should be filed by a lawyer, or granted or denied by a tribunal.
A lawyer may not both serve as an advocate at trial and testify as a necessary witness at a trial except as permitted under one of the exceptions in Colo. RPC 3.7(a). A lawyer who is a necessary witness generally may act as an advocate in pretrial activities unless the lawyer's participation in a particular pretrial activity would undermine the purpose of Rule 3.7.
Unless precluded from doing so by Colo. RPC 1.7 or 1.9, a lawyer may act as an advocate in a trial in which another lawyer in the lawyer's firm is likely to be called as a witness.
In the representation of a client, a lawyer may be required to obtain discovery from, or call as a witness at trial, a lawyer who represents an adverse party. No ethical proscription automatically prohibits a lawyer from taking such action. However, a lawyer should not routinely or lightly subpoena, identify as a potential witness, or call as a witness an opposing party's trial counsel (or another lawyer in the opposing lawyer's firm). Doing so solely as a contrivance to disqualify opposing counsel (whether or not combined with a motion to disqualify) violates the Rules.
Construing the predecessor Colorado Code of Professional Responsibility (Colorado Code), the Colorado Supreme Court observed:
A lawyer who intermingles the functions of advocate and witness diminishes his effectiveness in both roles. . . . [T]he lawyer is placed in the unseemly position of arguing his own credibility to the jury. . . . Obviously a lawyer's duty to exercise independent judgment on behalf of his client will be even more seriously jeopardized when the lawyer is called as a witness to give testimony adverse to his client.
Williams v. District Court, 700 P.2d 549, 553 (Colo. 1985) (Williams). Colo. RPC 3.7, cmt [1] reflects similar considerations.1
I. Analysis of Advocate-Witness Issues Under the Rules
A number of the Rules bear on the propriety of a lawyer simultaneously acting as trial advocate and testifying as a witness at trial, or of another lawyer in the testifying lawyer's firm acting as a trial advocate.
A. Colo. RPC 3.7
Colo. RPC 3.7 directly addresses the advocate–witness situation. It is divided into two subsections: the first establishes the general rule that a necessary witness may not be a trial advocate and enumerates the exceptions to that rule; the second governs when another non-testifying lawyer in a testifying lawyer's firm may and may not serve as trial advocate.2
1. Colo. RPC 3.7(a): The General Rule
Colo. RPC 3.7 provides that, absent an applicable exception, a trial advocate may not simultaneously testify as a necessary witness in the same matter: "A lawyer shall not act as an advocate in a trial in which the lawyer is likely to be a necessary witness unless . . ." (Emphasis added.).
a. Necessity of Lawyer's Testimony
Before a lawyer is precluded from serving as an advocate at trial under Colo. RPC 3.7, it must be "likely" that the lawyer will be a "necessary" witness. Compare Colorado Code DR 5-l 01(B) (lawyer must decline employment if the lawyer "ought to be called" as a witness). The "necessary" witness standard requires "an even more specific showing of necessity" than under the prior Code. Security Gen. Life Ins. Co. v. Superior Court, 149 Ariz. 332, 718 P.2d 985 (1986) (Rule 3.7(a) "requires a showing that the proposed testimony is relevant, material, and unobtainable elsewhere"). Courts have held that the advocate's testimony must be truly necessary, and not merely cumulative, and that the court may delay ruling on a motion to disqualify until it can determine whether another witness's testimony can adequately replace the lawyer's testimony. Rule 3.7(a) is "less prone [than the predecessor Code provision] to exploitation by opposing parties and more compatible with each party's interest in retaining counsel of choice." Cannon Airways, Inc. v. Franklin Holdings Corp., 669 F.Supp. 96, 100 (D.Del. 1987).
The "necessary witness" test is flexible and the result depends on the circumstances. Thus, the naming of a party's lawyer does not automatically render the named lawyer a "necessary witness" under Colo. RPC 3.7. While the availability of other witnesses to testify regarding the same matters as to which the lawyer has knowledge usually will render the lawyer an "unnecessary" witness, that determination also depends on the particular circumstances.
b. Prohibition Limited to Advocacy at Trial
Despite the breadth of its general prohibition, Colo. RPC 3.7 applies only to a lawyer "act[ing] as [an] advocate at a trial." Thus, with the client's informed consent, a lawyer who is likely to be a necessary witness may generally accept employment and continue to represent the client in all litigation roles short of in-court trial advocacy.3
Colo. RPC 3.7, like Model Rule 3.7, addresses only advocacy at "trial." In reliance on that language, courts in Colorado and elsewhere have held that the disqualification rule is inapplicable to proceedings other than "trials." Thus, in People ex rel. S.G., 91 P.3d 443, 450 (Colo.App. 2004), the Court of Appeals held that Rule 3.7 was inapplicable to post-trial proceedings. The Court of Appeals further noted that courts from other jurisdictions with rules similar to Colo. RPC 3.7 have held that the disqualification rule is inapplicable to "appeals, summary judgment motions or pretrial or post trial proceedings." Id.; see also United States v. Berger, 251 F.3d 894, 906 (10th Cir. 2001) (Oklahoma rule substantially similar to Colo. RPC 3.7 does not apply to appeals); Carroll v. Town of University Park, 12 F.Supp. 2d 475, 486 (D.Md. 1997) (rule substantially similar to Colo. RPC 3.7 does not bar counsel's affidavits attached to a summary judgment motion), aff'd, 155 F.3d 558 (4th Cir. 1998); Columbo v. Puig, 745 So.2d 1106, 1107 (Fla. Dist. Ct. App. 1999) (rule substantially similar to Colo. RPC 3.7 does not encompass pretrial or posttrial proceedings).4
However, the Colorado Supreme Court has held that limiting participation to pretrial procedures will not always avoid a Rule 3.7 violation.
We also accept the conclusions by other jurisdictions that such activities may include strategy sessions, pretrial hearings, mediation conferences, motions practice and written discovery, or being consulted by the non-testifying counsel. However, we decline to issue a rule that would permit automatic participation by the disqualified attorney in all pretrial litigation. Upon assuring that the client has consented to pretrial representation by the disqualified attorney, the trial court has the discretion to determine whether participation by the attorney in a particular pretrial activity would undermine the purpose of Rule 3.7. Accordingly, if for example, the attorney's dual role in deposition proceedings would likely be revealed at trial, the court may properly limit the attorney's role in that activity. We leave to the trial court upon remand the opportunity to fashion its orders in a way dictated by the facts of this case.
Fognani v. Young, 115 P.3d 1268, 1277 (Colo. 2005); see also World Youth Day, Inc. v. Famous Artists Merch. Exch., Inc., 866 F.Supp. 1297, 1303 (D.Colo. 1994) (disqualifying lawyer from taking or defending depositions because "[r]ealistically, the testimony from oral depositions in this case cannot easily be taken and read into evidence without revealing [lawyer's] identity as the deposing attorney").
The advocate faced with the prospect of being a witness is well advised to consult fully with the client early in the case regarding both the potential complications arising from being a witness and the potential advantages and disadvantages of serving as "pretrial" counsel. The consultation should address the possibility of retaining a second "shadow" trial lawyer early in the case in the event the first lawyer is ethically precluded from acting as trial advocate.
c. Non-Jury Trials
It is unclear in Colorado whether the advocate-witness disqualification rule is relaxed in non-jury proceedings. In In re Leventhal, 2012 WL 1067568 (Bkrtcy. N.D.Ill. March 22, 2012), the court denied a motion to disqualify a lawyer who was also a witness because the trial was a bench trial, not a jury trial: "Because the trial will be a bench trial, not a jury trial, there is no risk whatever that the trier of fact will confuse the roles of advocate and witness." Id. at *5; see also United States v. Johnston, 690 F.2d 638, 644 (7th Cir. 1982) (advocate–witness rule is applied more flexibly in a bench trial); Saline River Prop., LLC v. Johnson Controls, Inc., No. 10-10507, 2011 WL 4916688 *3 (E.D.Mich. 2011). But see Mount Rushmore Broad., Inc. v. Statewide Collections, 42 P.3d 478, 482 (Wyo. 2002) (Wyoming Rule 3.7 (which is identical to Colo. RPC 3.7) "does not make any exceptions between jury and bench trials.").
d. Enumerated Exceptions
Colo. RPC 3.7(a) identifies three instances in which a lawyer who is likely to be called as a necessary witness may also act as an advocate:
(1) the testimony relates to an uncontested issue;
(2) the testimony relates to the nature and value of legal services rendered in the case; or
(3) disqualification of the lawyer would work substantial hardship on the client.
Colo. RPC 3.7(a)(l) recognizes that where the advocate's testimony relates to an uncontested issue, the policy considerations that support the general rule are inapplicable. However, it is not enough that the facts pertaining to a disputed issue are uncontested; the issue itself must be uncontested. People v. Pasillas-Sanchez, 214 P.3d 520, 526 (Colo.App. 2009).
For similar reasons, Colo. RPC 3.7(a)(2) permits an advocate to give testimony regarding the nature and value of the lawyer's legal services.
Colo. RPC 3.7(a)(3) liberalizes the "substantial hardship" provision of DR 5-101(B)(4), by deleting the Colorado Code's requirement that the hardship must result "because of the distinctive value of the lawyer or his firm as counsel in the particular case." Comment [4] to Colo. RPC 3.7 recognizes that "a balancing is required between the interests of the client and those of the tribunal and the opposing party." Thus, the financial burden on the client of replacing the lawyer, if combined with other circumstances, may be sufficient to permit the lawyer to act in both roles. See generally Wolfram § 7.5.2, at 386-88.
In Fognani, the Supreme Court addressed when disqualification imposes a substantial hardship on the client:
. . . [W]e consider all relevant factors in light of the specific facts before the court, including the nature of the case, financial hardship, giving weight to the stage in the proceedings, and the time at which the lawyer became aware of the likelihood of his testimony. In addition, we also consider whether the client has secured alternative representation.
115 P.3d at 1275.
B. Conflicts of Interest; Colo. RPC 1.7 and 1.95
If the trial advocate concludes that Rule 3.7 will not be violated by the lawyer's testimony or the testimony of another lawyer in the trial advocate's firm, the general conflict of interest rule, Colo. RPC 1.7 (current client), and the former client conflict of interest rules, Rule 1.9, must also be considered. While Colo. RPC 3.7 expressly refers to Rules 1.7 and 1.9 only in subsection (b), concerning a lawyer acting as an advocate in instances where another lawyer in the firm is likely to be called as a witness, Comment [6] to Colo. RPC 3.7 makes clear that the general conflict of interest rules also pertain to Rule 3.7(a):
In determining if it is permissible to act as advocate in a trial in which the lawyer will be a necessary witness, the lawyer must also consider that the dual role may give rise to a conflict of interest that will require compliance with Rules 1.7 or 1.9. For example, if there is likely to be substantial conflict between the testimony of the client and that of the lawyer the representation involves a conflict of interest that requires compliance with Rule 1.7. This would be true even though the lawyer might not be prohibited by paragraph (a) from simultaneously serving as advocate and witness because the lawyer's disqualification would work a substantial hardship on the client. Similarly, a lawyer who might be permitted to simultaneously serve as an advocate and a witness by paragraph (a)(3) might be precluded from doing so by Rule 1.9.
If a conflict of interest exists under Colo. RPC 1.7 or 1.9, the lawyer must comply with those Rules to obtain an effective waiver. Any such waiver would require the informed consent of the affected client or former client, and would need to be confirmed in writing. See Colo. RPC 1.0(e) (defining "informed consent"); Colo. RPC 1.0(b) (defining "confirmed in writing").
C. Other Colorado Rules
Even where the trial advocate or another lawyer in the trial advocate's firm may testify, the lawyer must comply with all other applicable Rules. Thus, for example, the lawyer must consult with the client regarding the means by which the client's objectives are to be pursued and consult concerning the limits of representation due to the lawyer's role as a trial witness. See Colo. RPC 1.2(c) (limitation of scope of representation). Also, the lawyer-witness must consider the effect of Colo. RPC 1.6 regarding confidentiality of information relating to the representation. The testifying lawyer may face a conundrum upon cross-examination into information that would otherwise be protected from disclosure.
D. Vicarious Disqualification
If the conflict of interest rules—Rule 1.7 (conflict with current client) or Rule 1.9 (conflict with former client)—preclude a lawyer from testifying, then Colo. RPC 1.10 imputes that disqualification to all lawyers in the same firm unless the client gives informed consent confirmed in writing under the conditions stated in Colo. RPC 1.7. See Colo. RPC 3.7, cmt. [7]. However, absent a Colo. RPC 1.7 or 1.9 conflict, Colo. RPC 1.10 does not impute to all lawyers in a firm the disqualification of an advocate-witness under Rule 3.7(a), which is intended only as a personal bar.
II. Propriety of Identifying or Listing Another Party's Lawyer as a Witness or Moving for Disqualification
A lawyer is not ethically prohibited from calling another party's lawyer or another member of opposing counsel's law firm as a witness, either in discovery or at trial, where the lawyer may have unprivileged knowledge relevant to the case or reasonably calculated to lead to the discovery of admissible evidence.
Frequently, the identification or subpoenaing of a lawyer as a witness is accompanied by a motion to disqualify that lawyer (and the lawyer's firm) from further participation in the lawsuit. Indeed, the Colorado Supreme Court has deemed the act of subpoenaing opposing counsel as a trial witness under certain prescribed circumstances as the "functional equivalent" of a motion to disqualify. Williams, 700 P.2d at 555. In Taylor v. Grogan, 900 P.2d 60 (Colo. 1995), the Supreme Court described the ethical obligation imposed upon a lawyer who is considering subpoenaing (or naming as a witness) opposing counsel:
In Williams v. District Court, 700 P.2d 549, 553 (Colo. 1985), we examined the ethical considerations that "necessarily arise when an attorney of record is subpoenaed by opposing counsel in order to testify against the subpoenaed attorney's client in a pending trial." We concluded that an attorney may subpoena opposing counsel to testify adversely to his client only after showing:
(1) that [opposing counsel's] testimony will be actually adverse to [his or her client]; (2) that the evidence sought to be elicited from the lawyer will likely be admissible at trial under the controlling rules of evidence; and (3) that there is a compelling need for such evidence, which need cannot be satisfied by some other source.
Williams, 700 P.2d at 555-56 (footnotes omitted). Id. at 62.
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Williams was a criminal case in which the prosecution subpoenaed the attorney of the accused as a prosecution witness. DR 5-102(B) was applicable to both civil and criminal cases. In our view, the Williams factors are equally applicable in the civil context.
Id. at 62 (n.5). The lawyer subpoenaing or listing opposing counsel as a witness must decide whether to file a motion to disqualify. However, regardless of whether the lawyer files a motion to disqualify, the subpoenaed or named lawyer has a duty to promptly determine whether or not the Rules require withdrawal, and to act accordingly. Id.
The proliferation of motions to disqualify has led courts to view them with suspicion. See, e.g., Greenbaum-Mountain Mort. Co. v. Pioneer Nat 'l Title Ins. Co., 421 F.Supp. 1348, 1354 (D.Colo. 1976) ("We also recognize that counsel can approach the Code and Canon 5 as another arrow in his quiver of trial tactics."). See also J.P. Foley & Co. v. Vanderbilt, 523 F.2d 1357 (2d Cir. 1975). In the criminal context the United States Supreme Court has ruled that the erroneous disqualification of defense counsel denied the defendant of his right to counsel under the Sixth Amendment and his conviction was reversed. United States v. Gonzales-Lopez, 548 U.S. 140 (2006).
Before filing a disqualification motion, the moving lawyer should make a good faith effort, through both investigation and available discovery, to ascertain the validity of the facts underlying the motion. Timeliness in subpoenaing, identifying or listing an opposing lawyer or another member of the opposing lawyer's firm is an important factor in determining whether counsel is genuinely seeking relevant, significant testimony or is merely seeking to disqualify an adversary. What a lawyer learned or should have learned in the development of the case is important in determining timeliness.
A motion to disqualify not well supported in law or fact exposes the lawyer filing the motion (and the lawyer's client) to various sanctions, apart from the denial of the motion. These may include an award of attorney's fees incurred in connection with opposing the motion against the moving lawyer, the client or both. See C.R.C.P. 11 and Fed. R. Civ. P. 11; CRS §§ 13-17-101 et seq.; C.R.C.P. 121, § 1-15(7); 28 U.S.C. § 1927. See also Wold v. Minerals Eng'g Co., 575 F.Supp. 166 (D.Colo. 1985) (imposing Rule 11 sanctions against lawyer filing motion to disqualify). Such conduct can also violate the Rules. See, e.g., Colo. RPC 3.1 (precluding frivolous claims, defenses, and assertions).
The use of the subpoena power solely as a contrivance to disqualify opposing counsel may also constitute unprofessional conduct prejudicial to the administration of justice in violation of Colo. RPC 8.4(d). Cf., Williams, 700 P.2d at 554 (construing the Colorado Code). The assertion of a position merely to harass or maliciously injure another, and knowingly advancing a claim unwarranted under existing law, further violates Colo. RPC 3.1. Irrespective of whether a court denies a motion to disqualify, a frivolous motion to disqualify constitutes independent grounds for lawyer discipline. See generally Wolfram, § 7.5.1 at 375.
1. Historic rationales for the advocate–witness rule are numerous, often contradictory and have begot no shortage of critical comment. See generally Wolfram, Modern Legal Ethics § 7.5.2, at 337-79 (1986) (Wolfram); Hazard & Hodes, 1 The Law of Lawyering, § 3.7:102, at 678-79 (Supp. 1992).
2. Effective January 1, 2008, Colo. RPC 3.7 and Rule 3.7 of the American Bar Association Model Rules of Professional Conduct (Model Rules) are identical. That was not always the case. When the Rules were first adopted in Colorado (effective January 1, 1993), the Colorado Supreme Court appeared to reverse the presumption of non-disqualification contained in Model Rule 3.7(b). ABA Model Rule 3.7(b) provides:
(b) A lawyer may act as advocate in a trial in which another lawyer in the lawyer's firm is likely to be called as a witness unless precluded from doing so by Rule 1.7 or Rule 1.9.
Prior to January 1, 2008, Colo. RPC 3.7(b) provided:
(b) A lawyer shall not act as advocate in a trial in which another lawyer in the lawyer's firm is likely to be called as a witness unless the requirements of Rule 1.7 or Rule 1.9 have been met.
There was a question as to whether this difference in wording had any significance—an issue that is academic now that Colo. RPC 3.7 and Model Rule 3.7 are identical.
3. Colo. RPC 3.7 does not expressly require informed consent for a lawyer to act as both advocate and witness. However, the Colorado Supreme Court has indicated that the client's informed consent is necessary for a lawyer who may not act as an advocate at trial to provide pretrial representation. Fognani v. Young, 115 P.3d 1268, 1277 (Colo. 2005). Moreover, when a conflict of interest under either Colo. RPC 1.7 or 1.9 arises as a result of the lawyer acting in both witness and advocate roles, those Rules expressly require the client's informed consent, confirmed in writing, as a condition to an effective waiver of the conflict. The Colorado Bar Association Ethics Committee does not believe that informed consent is required when an exception in Colo. RPC 3.7(a)(1), (2), or (3) permits the lawyer to act as both advocate and lawyer, or when the lawyer is not a "necessary" witness.
4. While Colo. RPC 3.7 expressly limits only "act[ing] as an advocate at trial" (emphasis added), many of the policies supporting Rule 3.7 apply equally to administrative adjudicative proceedings.
5. The version of Colo. RPC 1.7 in effect prior to January 1, 2008 included in its text a comment from the then-operative version of Model Rule 1.7, which stated a "disinterested lawyer" standard for assessing whether a conflict was subject to a waiver by the affected client. The current version of Colo. RPC 1.7 does not contain the disinterested lawyer standard; instead, it provides (as does current Model Rule 1.7) that a conflict may not be waived unless "the lawyer reasonably believes that the lawyer will be able to provide competent and diligent representation to each affected client." Whether the disinterested lawyer and reasonable belief tests materially differed is another academic issue, which this opinion does not address.


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A VERY poor mans Sheed minus the toughness and the D. On the plus side is that Melo can stay at 3 with Bargnani on the roster.
I would love if Grunny has a plan to at least attempt to pull off a blockbuster trade like the Nets did and bring DLee and Bogut to NY for TC and Bargnani but it's more likely that Grunny got Bargnani as insurance in case Stat has a career ending injury or to fill in for him in a career where he plays limited minutes.
Stat's legacy is not complete but unless he can beast over the remainder of his contract he will go down as one of the worst signings in NBA history.
A VERY poor mans Sheed minus the toughness and the D. On the plus side is that Melo can stay at 3 with Bargnani on the roster.
ISO-Melo has not played at the 3 spot in the past 5 seasons, since Billups forced Melo to play at the 3-spot.LeFlume
A VERY poor mans Sheed minus the toughness and the D. On the plus side is that Melo can stay at 3 with Bargnani on the roster.
Recall in Denver, Nene & K-Mart were injured when Camby was a Nugget, then K-Mart was always injured.
Nene & Melo, K-Mart & Melo, Birdman & Melo .... Melo at the PF is the reason Why Denver couldnt get pass the 1st round of the playoffs.
Metro .... its not about what Bargani could do for the Knicks .... or what Humphries, Wallace, and Evans could do for the Celtics.
Its about what Novak & Camby can do for the Raptors in the Atlantic Division .... And what KG, Pierce, and Terry could do for the Nets in the Atlantic Division?????
Look at the Toronto Raptors roster .. and look at the Brooklyn Nets roster ........ get back to me at the end of the 2013-14 season with these two teams seeds in the playoffs...
Did u actually think Novak was going to be a threat when both Melo & JR are hogging the front perimeter for the ball?
Didnt u notice Novaks double-diget points every time Melo was out with injury?
Or did u sleep on Shump, Novak, and Copeland GELLIN performance on both ends of the court in the final 2 games of the regular season?
No Bargani performance cant match-up to none of the above .. Fields grabbed more rebounds than Bargani did last season.
OK, so since Camby and Novak were both useless, by your own admission, we should have kept them on the bench and just paid them? At least Bargnani can play, he'll stretch it out and give Tyson more 1v1 under the hoop. He's no all-star by any means, but there was literally no one on the roster less valuable last year than Camby. Novak was probably 4th on that list, but when you factor in his contract he's 1A. I like Copeland, so I just dismiss that argument. I do hope he gets serious minutes next year, assuming they hold onto him.
And please... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE... nevAH mention Landry Fields. Ever.
"The Knicks are back" - Amare
Young Knicks-fans did not give GM Grunwald credit toward the 2012-13 rostor of filling-up our locker-room with WINNING veteran "Old-Heads", which the old-heads kept a tight discipline in our lockerroom, practice, and on our bench. We had a roster filled with 8 players on their final contract year, who were playing for their Bread & Butter for a future contract .. we also had TWO low IQ Ball-HOGGERS (Melo & JR) with no-defensive ability controlling the ball on every offensive-possession taking 55% of the teams shot-attempts each game.
It was all our "OLD-HEADS" who kept teammates from dividing themselves from other teammates in our lockerroom and on the court from these two (Melo & JR) SELFISH players for 82 games .... EXAMPLE:
Rookie Copeland was healthy all season, and only played in 56 games, averaging 15 minutes per game .. For Rookie Copeland to receive playingtime it took 4 of our BIGMEN to be out with injury for over 50 games this season, say what ....
If Amare, Camby, Rasheed, and Kurt Thomas was not out with injury for over 50 games this season, do u actually think Copeland would have receive any playingtime this season???
P.S. It was our winning experience "Old-Heads" being a very huge part of our coaching-staff, that gave us a 54 win season, the 2nd seed in the playoffs, and the Division Title.
Without our "Old-Heads" on the bench we wouldve been struggling to keep a .500 record, like the 2 previous Knicks seasons...
The BIG-BIG laugh will be at the end of the 2013-14 season when the Jason Kidd Nets take the Division Title at ease, and the Raptors are 3 to 4 seeds ahead of us bc we took the $12M heavy load that made them a 9 to 11 seed team.
What happen to the teams after we took their heavy load contracts off their hands in the past?
The Bulls won their first Championship.
The Spurs won another Championship.
The Suns went to the WCF twice.
The Knicks built more winning NBA teams through foolish trades than Stern did in his crooked career in the NBA.
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Chocolate Chip Ice Cream Cake
- Prep Time: 60 min
- Cook Time: 30 min
- Ready Time: 600 min
- Yield: 12 to 16 servings
- Crisco® Original No-Stick Cooking Spray
- 2 cups (1 pint) heavy cream, chilled
- 1 (14 oz.) can Magnolia® Sweetened Condensed Milk, chilled
- 1 tablespoon vanilla extract
- 1 1/4 cups water
- 3/4 cup mini semi-sweet chocolate chips
- 1 package Pillsbury™ Moist Supreme® Chocolate Premium Cake Mix
- 1/2 cup Crisco® Pure Vegetable Oil
- 3 large eggs
- 1 (16 oz.) can Pillsbury™ Creamy Supreme® Chocolate Fudge Flavored Frosting
- Decorative candy bits or decors (optional)
Preparation Directions
- HEAT oven to 350°F. Chill beaters and large bowl. Line 8-inch round cake pan with plastic wrap. Coat two 9-inch round cake pans with no-stick cooking spray and set aside for cake batter.
- COMBINE heavy cream, sweetened condensed milk and vanilla in chilled bowl. Beat with chilled beaters 4 to 5 minutes or until soft peaks form. Cover and freeze 1 1/2 hours or until partially frozen. Fold in chocolate chips. Spoon into pan lined with plastic wrap. Cover and freeze at least 6 hours.
- PREPARE and bake two cake layers according to package directions using the oil, water and eggs. Cool completely.
- PLACE one cake layer on serving platter. Invert ice cream layer onto cake layer. Remove plastic wrap. Top with second cake layer. Quickly spread top and sides of cake and ice cream layer with frosting. Return to freezer if necessary to firm ice cream layer. Freeze frosted cake until serving time. Remove from freezer 15 minutes before serving. Decorate top of cake as desired with candy bits or decors.
Magnolia is a trademark of Eagle Family Foods Group, LLC, used by permission.
Nutritional Information Per Serving
Serving Size (1 slice, 1/12 of cake), Calories 730 (Calories from Fat 370), Total Fat 42g (Saturated Fat 18g, Trans Fat 2.5g), Cholesterol 115mg, Sodium 450mg, Total Carbohydrate 87g (Dietary Fiber 2g, Sugars 64g), Protein 8g; Percent Daily Value*: Vitamin A 15%, Vitamin C 2%, Calcium 15%, Iron 10%.
*Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.
* Ensure all recipe ingredients are gluten free by referencing the ingredient labels, as products may vary. If uncertain, contact the ingredient manufacturer.
Rated 5 out of 5 by 1 reviewer.
Rated 5 out of 5 by Sherry question on recipe Where does the 1 1/2 c. water fit into the ice cream layer? Didn't see it in the directions. Looks and sounds very yummy other than that. Will review at a later time. May 9, 2013
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