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Upton's Interest in Atlanta "Soaring"
MLB.com's Mark Bowman reported early this morning that B.J. Upton's interest in Atlanta "seemed to soar" after meeting with GM Frank Wren, manager Freddi Gonzalez, and former manager Bobby Cox. Bowman is referencing a meeting that took place over a week ago, however it is widely believed Upton may be the first of the center fielders to sign.
Madson to Angels
Jon Heyman is reporting that Ryan Madson will sign with the Angels today on a one-year pact and be their closer. Heyman reported that both of Madson's former clubs, the Phillies and Reds, had interest in bringing him back. Madson turned down his half of a $11 million mutual option and took a $2.5 million buyout instead to become a free agent.
Seven Teams Interested in Victorino, Phils Reportedly Not One of Them
The Indians, Rangers, Giants, Yankees, Rays, Red Sox, and Reds have all reportedly shown interest in The Flyin' Hawaiian per Jon Heyman. While the Rangers, Giants, and Rays all have presumed holes in center field to fill, the other teams of interest presumably don't. With Shane Victorino drawing this much interest, it no longer seems like he will be any type of bargain.
Analysis: Of note, the Yankees inquired about Victorino at the trade deadline but already have a center fielder in Curtis Granderson, who is in the last year of his contract. If Victorino signs with the Yankees, and Ichiro re-signs to play right, Granderson may be the odd man out as Brett Gardner will be handling left. Granderson may be available for a song should the Yankees choose to move in a different direction.
Mackanin Joins Yankees as Scout
Former Phillies bench coach Pete Mackanin has joined the Yankees as a scout reports Andy Martino. Best of luck to Pete.
Phillies Sign Second Minor Leaguer
The Phils signed former Baltimore third round pick Brandon Erbe yesterday. Erbe, 24, was ranked #78 in the 2007 Baseball America Top 100 Prospects list powered by a 98 MPH fastball but quietly fell off the radar soon after. Erbe has had a series of shoulder injuries over the last few seasons and posted a 6.82 ERA in 19 appearances for High-A Frederick last season.
Analysis: Erbe was invited to camp with the Orioles in 2010 as a member of their 40-man roster, seemingly on the fast track to making the big league club. His 98 MPH fastball fizzled after mid-season labrum surgery in 2010. Erbe used to rely heavily on the fastball to post impressive K/9 IP numbers – it will be interesting to see if he can recreate any of that magic in Clearwater or Reading.
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"Seven Teams Interested in Victorino, Phils Reportedly Not One of Them"
That headline alone tells me that they're committed to moving on entirely from Vic. I don't get it as signing him to a team-friendly 3 year deal would make sense as opposed to coughing up tons of $$$ for Upton or Bourn or trading for someone like Fowler. I'm tellin' ya….I think he pissed someone (Cliff Lee)or a few people off to the point where there was no turning back.
Victorino was annoying several veterans and coaching staff in the clubhouse with his loud rap music and constant laughing and joking after games as the losses began to mount in the month of June and early July. It was written about how he and Rollins were setting the clubhouse atmosphere without the presence of Utley in the first half of the season. Amaro said as much in a pre-game interview in early August after he had made the deadline trades, that the Phillies needed a clubhouse change of atmosphere. He didn't mention any names but he wasn't referring to Blanton or Pence. I don't think Victorino is Amaro's and Manuel's first choice for the outfield position unless he is still available at a decent price after they struck out on other options.
The moon is made out of cheese.
See, I can make things up too.
Jimmy Rollins controls the stereo in the clubhouse, not Victorino… bro
You may be able to make up things, but your example doesn't show it. The moon being made out of cheese goes way back, and is therefore not something YOU made up. If you'd said something like "The moon is made out of elephant turds," that would be a different story.
With seven teams in the mix, it would seem unlikely that anyone will get Victorino cheap or short term, which are really the only reasons he should be signed in the first place. If Amaro wants to go younger, there's no reason whatsoever for him to express interest in an aging center fielder coming off a lousy season that included bad lefty/righty splits.
If Phillies lose on Upton… and aren't in on Hamilton… and don't want to pay Bourn's price tag… Do we target Swisher (I think the best fit in our lineup)…
Swisher and trading for a CF like Fowler or Span would be a good move in my book
If they are not interested in Vic (which I don't get) that is what I would do, as long as you don't have to commit to Swisher for too many years.
Hopefully not. Angel Pagan is the choice if that scenario arises. Then maybe span, although that always depends on what you have to give up to get him.
Pagan would be a good choice but I still dont believe he will play for anybody else than the Giants. Just a gut feeling.
Shouldn't we as fans try to sway Upton our way? Perhaps we should start tweeting at him.
Cliff Lee picked Philly partially because of the fans after all.
And actually… I still like the idea of Peter Bourjos if we also upgraded RF with Swisher. Bourjos should be a lot cheaper in a trade than Fowler or Span (adding another LH in Span doesn't help for the "balancing the lineup" – which may or may not be a made-up issue)
That could work:
Rollins, Utley, Swisher, Howard, Ruiz, Brown/Ruf, Bourjos, Frandsen
Rollins, Frandsen, Utley, Howard, Swisher, Ruiz, Brown/Ruf, Bourjos
or vs. LHPs:
Rollins, Frandsen, Utley, Swisher, Howard, Ruiz, Brown/Ruf, Bourjos
Bourjos will not be coming to the Phillies, the Angels have a hole in right field after the departure of Torii Hunter, so why would they trade one of their young talented outfielders when they finally have a place to play him?
The Phils will sign a CF or trade for Dexter Fowler (only if his price really drops).
yea, I don't believe that Bourjos will be dealt, but if they fail to resign Grienke, i imagine that they'll entertain offers that would give them some SP depth (not that I think the Phillies really even have anything to get that done)…
I know Trumbo plays both corners – and obviously Trout can play CF… they have Vernon Wells who could play LF for them (and bat 8th?).. again, I don't think they'll trade Bourojs now that Hunter left for the Tigers, but if they need to land a SP to go with Weaver and Wilson, they will have teams interested in him
RAJ has a plan, not sure what it is but I can't wait to see it as usual
So much of it depends on who else does what…
If the Nationals resign LaRoche, that would keep Morse in LF – which means that with Harper and Werth – they wouldn't need a CF…. which might bring down the price of Bourn
if the Angels can resign Grienke, they don't need any extra pitching, and wouldn't be trading for it…
In past years, Amaro has tried to set the market – or at least not worry about the market. This year he seems to be waiting for other things to develop
It's sort of hot stove related, particularly if you start talking compensation, and degree of it with all the names mentioned in this possible transaction piece.
Marvin Miller passed away today. Forty some years ago, he was front row center as the head of the formation of the MLBPA, and presided over changing the financial structore of baseball, but probably pacing the way for other sports as well. This makes Miller both a patron saint, and villian in the collective eyes of observors. Revenues are derived from numerous sources, but the freedom of movement contributed to higher salaries, which were at least in part paid for by Average Joe ticket purchasers. Tickets ain't cheap. To them, and succeeding generations forking over hard earned bucks, some degree of lack of love for Miller has to be respected. Conversely, for the Union he represented, the success stories, no matter who paid for it, that were off the charts. Back in the day, considering that Miguel Cabrera might well have had his 3rd best year in the last 3, it's not unthinkable that the wrong employer might have tried to cut his pay for the next year. Baseball history has some examples of that.
But one thing stands above board to me on Miller's contribution to baseball. Years ago, players were not the sharpest tools in the shed. To generalize, they weren't socially or politically saavy. You didn't see many Doug Glanvilles in the game that were Ivy League graduated, and went on to write for the New York Times. Still don't, but many more players have succeeded post baseball than seems the case from long ago. We still have some drug and vice abuse in the game today, but reading up on players from way back when can depress you on how alchoholism was so present. Miller's association with the Union hardly singlehandedly made players more hip to the world around them. But he made a vital contribution toward educating players, which led to numerous advances in business and social accumen.
I may not know if Jack Morris or Mike Mussina is a Hall of Famer, but I know Marvin Miller is.
The game's gone on without his direct involvement for a while now, but it still won't be the same. A baseball blog, no matter what team it covers doesn't necessarily have to cover his passing, but it's more complete acknowledging the development in my view. Mission complete, message the same.
Very interesting comment. Miller really helped the players, who were being spat upon by owners. I remember years ago when Koufax and Drysdale held out for $125K and $100K respectively, (What would they have made after Miller?) and were forced by the stinking reserve clause to come back to the Dodgers for way less.
I think part of the reason players seem more successful after their careers are over is simply because their earnings allow them to invest in or capitalize new ventures. It isn't necessarily because of education. Now they can actually afford investment counselors and advisors, and don't have to get drunk to avoid worrying about where the money will come from when they retire.
As Philly fans, we should all text Upton and try to scare him away from Philadelphia; I want no part of him. Essentially, he is Hunter Pence with a lower batting average and OBP and better defensive skills; if Pence wasn't worth extension money (and he wasn't), then why the hell should we blow that saved money on Upton? His mythical "upside" and "high ceiling" that he has yet to display? That's not convincing me; we already have one high-upside underacheiver (Dom Brown) on our major league roster; let's not add another project to the outfield. Again, I would be satisfied with Swisher in RF and a Mayberry/Schierholz platoon in CF (the Nats did all right this year without a regular CF); Bourjos would be nice, but might be harder to acquire now that he's got a spot open for him in the Halos' OF. If we went with a platoon in CF, we could bring in Cody Ross for LF if you're not comfortable depending on either Ruf or Brown for that spot. What I'm afraid of is (A) that the Phils sign B. J. Upside or (B), they miss out on Upside and then Amaro panics and throw an enormous amount of money at Boras in order to get Bourn (who would be even worse for this team). When your GM is a moron, watching baseball isn't much fun.
"Essentially, he is Hunter Pence with a lower batting average and OBP and better defensive skills;"
And a much better baserunner.
Upton probably does have some upside, but he's already better than Pence, and he's over a year younger.
The Phillies could have kept Pence, but then they wouldn't have Tommy Joseph (or Schierholtz, or Rosin), who they can develop and use, or trade to fill a need.
I really don't think you can characterize BJ Upton, a six year veteran that has helped a team reach a World Series as a "project". He's not my favorite choice of FA outfielders either, but he's not a "project". I think he is what he is, a guy worth about 12m per year that will likely get a lot more on a long term deal from someone. Vince Gennaro, the author of Diamond Dollars and of SABR, said (paraphrasing, I don't remember his exact words) he believes that the market is ripe for overpays based on the few signings that have already occurred.
How much in trade would Granderson cost?
Lots. He's hit 84 HR in the last two seasons from CF, a premium defensive position.
Any thoughts of getting him for "a song," as Ian intimates, are sorely misguided I think.
Agreed, but I also think he hits a lot fewer bombs playing at any other park but YS3. So the price while high, may be a little lower than we think.
Well, I think his sticker price is going to be based on his stats in Yankee Stadium, while you're right that he probably doesn't perform nearly that well outside of the Bronx. Unfortunately those numbers are where Cashman is going to start negotiations from, so I have a feeling it's a classic overpaying issue (in basically the same way that acquiring Fowler would be).
I have a sickening feeling that this apparent Atlanta excitement is for Upton is BS. When was the last time they paid for an expensive long term FA? IMO- They aren't giving him 90 million.
I think they may be trying to drive the price up for their division rivals. I really hope the Phils are not so locked in on BJ Upton that they are willing to beat any one else's offer.
Atlanta is losing their #3 hitter though in Chipper Jones – so it does not surprise me that they want to add a bat in the middle of the lineup (which Upton is… he's not a leadoff man). They believe they'll get much more impact from Upton's bat than from Bourn's …. I agree with that.
Interestingly- MLBTR mentioned that the Braves have called about Dexter Fowler (an Atlanta native)… seems like both teams want Upton, and Fowler might be the backup plan. Atlanta has much more to offer in a trade, since the Rockies are said to covet pitching
I agree that losing Chipper makes a difference in their decision making. Still, they haven't been big spenders on long term FA contracts typically, unless I'm forgetting about someone.
(which is highly possible)
Atlanta has quite possibly the worst television deal in baseball, which really limits their ability to increase payroll, so, no, they haven't really signed any marquee free agents in a long time.
I agree with that, but lots of Atlanta's talent is pretty cheap … Heyward, Kimbrel, Freeman… Medlen, Minor, Beachy (with more young pitchers coming (unless they trade them for a CF if Upton chooses another team)..
They are losing the face of their franchise, and I think they want to add an impact player this offseason. We'll see though, I also thought the Marlins were going to draw fans last year, so what do i know
ericl: To follow up on the braves awful tv deal, fangraphs just posted all 30 team's deals – prompted by the news that the Dodgers are about sign an unprecedented deal around $6-7B in total.
It's funny that some people can easily call Amaro a "moron" (look above in this thread)…yet for the 3 out of 4 years that he's been the GM he's managed to help get them to the postseason…. where it's anybody's game once they get there.
And you can't lay 2012 entirely at his feet, either, since the #3 and #4 hitters were out of the lineup for about half the season and the #1 starter was on the DL for 2 months as well.
I'm not saying that I agree with every one of RAJ's moves. He's made some mistakes. But I have no problem with his wanting to "go all in" in '09, '10, and '11 in order to win another World Series.
Well, the core of the team he's assembled was actually in place before Amaro became GM, and he used a lot of payroll flexibility (created by his predecessors) and a good chunk of the farm system (left flush by his predecessors) to make the moves he did.
He's average at best, in my opinion, and has greatly benefited from the excellent position the franchise was in when he became GM.
ChuckA: I don't think Ruben is a moron, but your defense of him doesn't match up. You absolve him of blame because the playoffs is anybody's game once in – but then you back his decision to 'go all in'.
If all you can possibly be expected do is make the playoffs, then why should a GM go "all in" by spending even more resources on a team already with the ability to make the playoffs in the first place?
Yeah, I back his decision to "go all in" because we all know, Amaro included, that once a team is in the playoffs they have as good a chance as any other team that's made it.
And I'm not absolving him of blame. Read my post again… I said that he's made some mistakes and that I don't agree with every move he's made. But a poster above referred to him as a "moron" as though he hasn't done jacksh!t since taking the job. I don't think that's accurate.
Also, to Eric… I realize that he inherited a really nice situation with which to work. So, yeah, all the credit of the team's success can't be nor should be given to him. But I would disagree that he's "average at best."
I don't know who the Phillies will wind up getting for centerfield (nor do they I guess) but I do find it curious that neither of Victorino's two former teams (Phils & Dodgers) appear to be in the bidding to obtain/retain his services. I would think he's due for a bounce-back season.


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J&D's is also known for its bacon lip-balm, bacon popcorn, bacon roses and other pork-related products.
The company says it only produced 2,500 of the "pork-scented lather of the gods" and began selling it Wednesday.
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Ukraine's interim prime minister visited Donetsk Friday in an effort to reduce tensions in the east of the country. Pro-Moscow militants among the area's largely Russian-speaking population have seized two government buildings in the region and are demanding referendums on the area's future. NPR's Ari Shapiro has been behind the barricades at one of the occupations.


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amazing driver or just lucky?
amazing driver or just lucky?
Amazing car.
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Both feet in! Oh, wait...
Did everyone at the track, including the maintenance guy on the lawnmower, come to the driver's aid?
Newbies at the track should not disengage traction control...
Might of had an idea of what he was doing. He didnt hit the brakes until the end of the 360, least he knows you have a better chance of finessing the skinny pedal with a awd car. Still some luck in there...either way
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Amazing car makes an amazing driver?
Pretty sure that driver pee'd himself.
THE luckiest? Definitely other contenders
That track looks terrible.
I'm used to Rockingham or Vmax in Charlotte.
That run was pure insanity ... good to see the video making rounds ... Tx2k12 was INSANE this year ...
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I watch that and think... AMAZING CAR! Driver had something going on, but still, that car is almost too good.
On a side note, not trying to derail thread, but any GT-R vids that were not so lucky?
There goes the "GTR drives itself" theory. This was in a straight line the car couldn't drive itself.
I think when the tail came out he became a passenger and got very lucky.
Edit, watched the video a few times. He does correct one way, then the other. If it was all skill he would have saved it from the spin all together.
1/2 luck 1/2 skill.
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Shifts and ResearchElizabeth Willis '13 | June 5, 2010
The day is split into sections and various people are allocated to different shifts throughout the day. We have work to do in the Environmental Center, which tourists have the opportunity to visit and ask questions about the project, donate money to the research project or volunteer their services. This shift lasts three hours in the morning and another three in the evening.
There is a night shift starting at 10pm until 6 or 7am. During the night female turtles come up onto the beach to nest and it is our responsibility to monitor the beaches (using only the light of the moon since flashlights could scare the female from nesting). We have to report any false crawls where turtles have abandoned nesting as well as actual nests. When the female turtle is laying her eggs, she enters a trance which is very hard to disturb and this is our chance to record her tag number (or tag her if she is untagged), measure the curved and straight length and width of her shell, sketch the pattern of barnacles or other parasites on her shell, record the time of night and the duration of each stage of nesting; the total duration of nesting is anywhere between 1-2 hours. All of this is used to compile a yearly report which we can also use to compare to previous information known about the turtle. If we are unable to catch the turtle while she is nesting, or if she is making a false crawl, we have to catch her if possible on her way down to the sea and record her tag number. This can be difficult because sea turtles weigh about the same as humans. If one person is unable to restrain the female while the other records the data, sometimes a turtle must be flipped onto her back, however this is only used as a last resort.
Once the sun comes up, the morning beach shift (around 6am) has to locate and record the exact positions using a GPS system of the nests reported by the night shift. We have constructed markers all the way along the beaches which facilitate this process but it can be quite time-consuming. We actually had our first two nests of the season just last night, so we spent quite a bit of time this morning recording all of this information, which we use to relocate the nest after the incubation period of 50-60 days.
We have an afternoon shift on the beach from 5-8 which is used to talk to and educate tourists about sea turtles in the area, pick up garbage and request from hotels which have sun-beds on the beach to move them off the beach for the night. This is usually a pretty relaxed shift, although it can be hard walking the 3km of beach back and forth since it is usually still quite hot.
Finally, we have what I call the super-shift! This shift requires us to monitor a beach located about 13km away. You have to go in the morning to find turtle tracks before they have time to be erased by the waves or unsuspecting tourists, so we are required to leave the house between 6-6:30am.
First you have to bike up a long and very tiring hill for approximately an hour and drop the bikes off at the beginning of a path down to the sea. The walk to the beach takes about 20-30 minutes. Once you patrol the first beach which is rather short, you have to canoe over to the next beach which takes about 30 minutes. The next beach is approximately 2.5km in length, and it takes roughly an hour and a half to patrol the whole thing. Sometimes you have to replace missing markers that have been moved around using the GPS. Once you're done, you canoe back and walk up the hill to the bikes and begin the nice bike back down hill. The whole shift takes around 5 and a half hours and is probably the most physically draining, although very beautiful since the beaches are susceptible to very little tourism so they are gorgeous and very clean, with beautiful clear water.
Unfortunately, since the only time female turtles come up to nest is during the night and males do not leave the water at all to visit the beach after birth, it is very hard to get pictures of sea turtles. We are not allowed to take pictures at night so as not to scare the turtles and stop them from nesting. There is a permanent population of turtles that live nearby in the town of Argostoli, and come out to feast on the refuse from fishermen at 9 or 10am. Hopefully I will have some pictures from them, or maybe some under-water ones from morning or afternoon swims when the turtles are roaming the waters near the beach. Otherwise, I'll have to wait until the hatchlings emerge, when I will most probably have a good opportunity to catch many hatchlings on camera!


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December 14, 2005
Members Present: Carol Baldwin, Joan Buchanan, Kim Daniels, Daniel "Frosty" Frost, Tracy Goss, Fred Hardee, Lisa Neel, Jeff Noe, Michele Noe, and Berreda Ratliff.
Visitors Present: Tom Harrison.
Please note that this meeting was originally scheduled for December 8 but had to be rescheduled because we did not have a quorum.
Chair, Carol Baldwin called the meeting to order at 2:00 in room 202F of the P.E. building.
* The AFT representative happened to be on campus today and asked to present information on their legislative agenda and petition they are starting regarding the proposed PEIA increase.
I. Minutes – There was an error in the November meeting minutes regarding the BOG report of there being 8 housing vendors approved, that number should have been 6. A motion to accept the meeting minutes from the November 17, 2005 meeting with changes was made and seconded by Buchanan/Goss, all were in favor.
II. The question was raised as to which chemicals were supposedly spilled that caused the science labs to be closed last semester. It was noted that the chemicals were not spilled, they were improperly marked (not marked at all) and that one of the chemicals was mercury. It was not known at this time what the other chemical was.
III. New Business- There was no new business to be discussed.
IV. Reports
A. Board of Governors-Frosty reported that there will be a new position created in the R & D Corporation that will be Title III funded for 1 year. As part of the board's discussion of that position, it was stated that Frosty understood that 1 year of education will be equal to 1 year of experience. It was brought to the attention of the BOG that there is no classified member on that board. A committee was formed to look at the funding for staff raises. Anne Crowe and James Palmer were named as the new members to the board.
B. Personnel Development-Lisa reported that the spring requests had been approved and that the committee was still in the process of revising governing policies.
C. ACCE-Fred reported that he was not able to attend the last ACCE meeting because it was scheduled for the same day as the College Council meeting. ACCE did make the
power point presentation to HEPC in December. They are still working on brochures to be given out to legislators during the next session. He said that he was quite impressed with the representation of teachers at the PEIA rally.
D. Flower Fund-Anita was not able to attend the meeting but sent report that the balance in the flower fund account is $444.50.
E. Holiday Lights Committee-Michele stated that due to the issues at hand, she would not be addressing this further.
F. Social/Activities Committee-Although there was not much to report on, there was
discussion about having future meetings at off campus sites.
F. Wellness Committee-Lisa reported that Roy has been working with pathways to
wellness on a walking and swimming plan that would call for walking 100 miles in
100 days or swimming 20 miles in 100 days. The nursing department has agreed to
offer blood pressure and blood sugar testing once a month. Roy has begun doing a
wellness newsletter once a month with the first one already having been sent out all
users. The new treadmills have ordered and should be in after the first of the year.
One was paid for by Campus Life and the other by SGA. There will be a health fair
in April. The Lunch to Learn will continue monthly. The committee is hoping to
offer Water Aerobics again next semester as well as yoga but had problems this
semester because by the end of the class, the attendance had dwindled too low to
justify the class. Roy has been in contact with Darrell Bailey to try to set up a
Women's Self Defense class on campus. Any suggestions of activities to be offered
on campus are welcomed, ie. line dancing.
V. Next meeting/Adjournment
The date and time for the next meeting has not been set, but it was suggested that it be held the third week of the month as not to conflict with registration.
With no further business to discuss, the meeting was adjourned by Carol.
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After thousands of years, the body continues to be one of the most alluring and most difficult subjects to capture. Perhaps itŌĆÖs because even an art novice knows what human forms are supposed to look like. Perhaps we continue to struggle with who we are as human beings. Perhaps our animal instincts attract us to the bare body.
Whatever the case may be, the latest exhibit at the Haywood County Arts CouncilŌĆÖs Gallery 86 in downtown Waynesville offers viewers a lovely collection of paintings and sculptures that turn the body into a work of art.
ŌĆ£Impressions of the Figure,ŌĆØ a month-long exhibit that runs through Dec. 2, features the work of painters Luke Allsbrook and Dan Helgemo, sculptor and painter Vadim Bora and fiber and ceramic artist Paula Woods. While many of the pieces feature nudes, some include semi-nude portraits, fully clothed subjects and sculptures that merely suggest human forms ŌĆö lest those Puritan sensibilities make you blush while viewing bodies in birthday suits.
The beauty of the exhibit is its sheer range ŌĆö from HelgemoŌĆÖs classical, realistic nudes to BoraŌĆÖs playful poses of plump women to WoodsŌĆÖ organic sculptures that suggest a metamorphosis between stoic sculpture and contagious kudzu vitality.
As part of the exhibit, the arts council also held a pair of figure classes featuring nude models and taught by painters Allsbrook (featured in Gallery 86 this spring) and Helgemo. Both classes were booked up, so the arts council is looking at offering similar classes in January.
ŌĆ£ItŌĆÖs been mostly positive,ŌĆØ said Paula Bolado, Gallery 86ŌĆÖs manager who helped arrange the show, which has become one of the most lucrative in sales for the gallery. ŌĆ£WeŌĆÖve had parents bringing their children in discussing art.ŌĆØ
And thatŌĆÖs where Bolado takes great pride. You canŌĆÖt have a thorough lesson in art history without including a discussion on figure art and nude drawings, Bolado explained. Even Picasso had to get a grasp of the figure before he delved into the abstract.
Despite the traditional importance of human anatomy in art, the post-modern world has commercialized abstract forms to the point where artists donŌĆÖt feel that figure art is necessary anymore, Bolado said.
So perhaps an exhibit on figure art can help to bring that focus back to the human body. Bolado, who is herself an artist, took part in the classes. While Allsbrook shared his eye for detail, Helgemo taught Bolado to use Impressionistic techniques by pulling out skin tone colors to the surrounding environment of a painting and then portraying the body with realism.
One of the problems artists have in drawing or painting the human figure is seeing the obvious, according to Allsbrook.
ŌĆ£If you ask someone to draw a portrait, unless theyŌĆÖve been taught better, theyŌĆÖll make the face cover the entire head instead of placing the eyes halfway down ŌĆö a simple fact,ŌĆØ Allsbrook explains in an essay on the figure drawing.
Another challenge is where to start. The head? The face? The arms? The eyes?
ŌĆ£The student sitting in front of the figure may feel like someone who is building a house for the first time. ItŌĆÖs overwhelming,ŌĆØ Allsbrook adds.
There are very different schools of thought when it comes to drawing figures. Some adhere to the painstaking, detailed drawings with an intense study of anatomy while others prefer the quick gesture drawings that capture a mix of poses in seconds.
That said, Allsbrook suggests beginners take it one step at a time with patience, diligence and ŌĆ£a growing awareness of the truth.ŌĆØ
The exhibit allows both novice and master to see how the body can be depicted on canvas and sculpture. In HelgemoŌĆÖs paintings, his nude subjects are relaxed and
graceful ŌĆö a pregnant woman cupping her swollen belly, a man standing at ease with a cane, a woman sitting in bed. Often these people have their eyes closed or lowered, as if to convey calm or meditation, and the viewerŌĆÖs eye turns away from the face to survey the rest of the body.
Beyond capturing a representation of what a human body looks like, figure art tells an undeniable truth, showing the human body in all its imperfection, vulnerability, and grace. ThereŌĆÖs also a deeply spiritual connection artists have come to associate with the body as in the case of Christian-themed paintings of Jesus on the crucifix or prophets enraptured with a holy light.
In Vadim BoraŌĆÖs sculptures, that spiritual quality radiates with a piece like ŌĆ£WinterŌĆØ that depicts a Buddha-like body wrapped in a blanket or cloak. While the figure seems concealed with only the tiniest features present ŌĆö a set of toes, a peek of a face under a hood ŌĆö the bodyŌĆÖs round shape is kept solid and sturdy, conveying both an inner strength and humility. Is this figure wrapped tight against a cold, dark night, or cocooned in a security blanket to meditate on peace?
Bora also turns to a playful scene in one of his paintings, ŌĆ£Not on the First Date,ŌĆØ which features a naked man and woman facing each other as a droopy-eyed hound dog and a wide-eyed cat look on. The plump bodies take up the entire bed with limbs spilling out. The womanŌĆÖs arms are flung in the air, her head tilted sideways, as the man reaches his hand like a key between her breasts. Warm reds and tans and the vibrant colors of a foreground rug give the piece a joyous mood. WeŌĆÖre not sure whether to laugh or turn away as voyeurs of this amusing escapade.
Meanwhile, Paula Woods dazzles with slender ceramic figures ŌĆö headless and limbless ŌĆö that remind us of ancient marble statues of a long-ago age. In ŌĆ£WoodwifeŌĆØ the body form could be a statue from antiquity with viney leaves creeping up both sides. The piece might conjure up allusions to OvidŌĆÖs Metamorphoses where the beautiful wood nymph Daphne flees the god Apollo and turns into a laurel tree. A mysterious phrase can be read on the left side of the ŌĆ£WoodwifeŌĆØ torso ŌĆö ŌĆ£The wood wife plants me in the soil and gives me language once again.ŌĆØ
In an untitled piece, another tall, slender headless figure appears to have sprouted curly branches for arms. The piece serves as a memorial with its stiff ceramic casing like some long evening gown that shapes the body while these new arms suggest a livelier self full of expression and daring.
Woods, who moved to Haywood County about two years ago, has a background mostly in fiber arts ŌĆö needle art, loom weaving and basketry ŌĆö so her clay sculpture is a more recent evolution of her artwork.
Woods and painter Luke Allsbrook are Haywood County residents. Dan Helgemo hails from nearby Greenville, S.C., and Vadim Bora, a native of North Ossetia in the Russian Caucasus Mountains, lives in Asheville.
To learn more about these artists or about upcoming exhibits at Gallery 86, call 828.452.0593 or go to the Web site www.haywoodarts.org.


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We are Korean Moms in training dedicated to psycho-analyzing our moms, reliving horrible memories of embarrassment and dread for the benefit of the public...all the while laughing like a wheezy grandpa. Someone needs to pay for our therapy...
Sunday, October 26, 2008
#52 Punishment
65 comments:
- hreeves said...
At least it's clear.
For white people you are just made to feel guilty all the time and you never really know why.
I love Koreans. They always get to the point.
- October 26, 2008 at 10:07 PM
My mom used to hit me with white plastic hangers, and if i cried she would keep yelling "WHY YOU CRYING??" while she was beating me! HAHA, and in my head I would think "CAUSE YOU'RE HITTING ME!!" but I would never ever say anything out loud! Oh hell no, thats how you get yourself into round two of the beatings!
- October 26, 2008 at 11:43 PM
- dreams2ashes said...
yaa they always ask why you're crying ahahhaa
LOL a the multitasking ahahahhahaa
- October 27, 2008 at 1:04 AM
- Thea's SoapBox said...
yes- kneeling on raw rice kernels for hours while holding big cans of tomatoes with my arms extended out.
they are truly creative.
good stuff.
- October 27, 2008 at 12:23 PM
- Renee said...
Keep laughing, well that is something I'm doing right now.
My husband is from Trinidad and he is West Indian and so many of the things you write make me laugh because they sound like punishments he has had. Not that he was telling them to be funny.
Thanks for the talent to have the ability to make us all laugh.
Renee Khan
- October 27, 2008 at 1:18 PM
oh dude, my mom and dad would beat me and days later ask where i got the bruises...like during the beating, you keep your mouth shut...
seriously made me suicidal when i was in grade school...i almost went to my grade school teacher for help...but i was afraid i'd just get an even bigger beating...
imagine my parents talking to my teacher: "he needs to be beaten, he doesn't listen"...and then at home after the meeting: "what the hell's wrong with you?"...
- October 28, 2008 at 2:27 AM
- makingpapercranes said...
yes, you're right, i think my pain threshold is unusually high...from the tortuous daily hair-brushing to being chased around the house with a vacuum hose to standing facing a wall with arms up in the air for hours...
thank you for bringing back such interesting memories...
- October 28, 2008 at 12:44 PM
hows this for creative punishment--my mom left piles of dead bugs in the corners of my room and spread all over my dresser to prove that having a messy a room leads to having bugs.
i tried to make her admit that she was the one who put the bugs in my room but she never fessed up. she insisted that the handfuls of dead bugs just all happened to die together in their little clumps like mass bug suicide and then made me vacuum them up.
Since then Ive never left my clothes scattered all over the floor again.
- October 28, 2008 at 1:27 PM
My KM used to make me pick out a stick for her to beat me with whenever we went to the park, just to have at home in case I did anything wrong later. Very pro-active on her part, traumatizing on my part.
- October 28, 2008 at 3:11 PM
Picking your own switch from the backyard spans cultures--I grew up in the southeast, and my grandmother did the same thing. I always picked out really large branches that I knew she wouldn't use on me, so then she just used her bare hand on me instead. Slap! Slap! Slap! Geez, I still remember that...therapy ahoy.
I guess I came out lucky, though, because my mom told me Grandma used to pop her on the mouth if she talked back. Yikes.
- October 28, 2008 at 5:04 PM
- hmmm said...
You never fail to make me laugh. My mom used to make us bring meh, so I hid them all under the bed. We did the hands in the air, kneeling on the floor, etc. And she would also ask why we cried. She added "you can't cry, because you did something wrong." HUH????
- October 28, 2008 at 11:22 PM
- queenbae said...
ari says more
- October 29, 2008 at 11:26 AM
- suzie said...
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- October 29, 2008 at 12:16 PM
- Angela said...
I love your blog!!
My KM is actually pretty nuetral..It's my korean father that gets me wondering if he has bipolar dissorder or something...
You should also write what korean father's like that would really get the ball rolling lol.
- October 29, 2008 at 5:33 PM
my mom would usually get me with the handle of a fly swatter, stung like a mofo. when i was in big trouble she'd thump me with the plastic bagaji from the bathtub. i guess the most creative thing she beat me with was a dinner plate. who beats their kid with a dinner plate???
i love my mom :D
- October 29, 2008 at 10:43 PM
I was never physically punished with a smack on the bottom by my parents, but I suspect that it had a lot to do with my grandparents. My grandparents used to live with us so whenever I felt my parents get mad at me, I'd run to my grandparents. So instead, my parents got creative. Copying words out of the dictionary, eating food I hated (yuck, bitter melon!), and washing the floor everyday (think on my hands and knees with the bucket and a cloth).
- October 29, 2008 at 11:11 PM
- Kevin said...
I posted a "top 10 korean stereotypes" on my xanga a while back.. it was ok, but your site is AWESOME!
- October 30, 2008 at 12:15 AM
Ah, so awesome! My mom's weapon of choice was the fly-swatter and it's handle - she once broke it on my older sister's butt while she was alternating between whacking the two of us! Though, admittedly the scariest thing was when she threw a spatula at the same sister, who dodged it - the spatula was then stuck into the wall, wedged in right where my sister's head had been. It was the most amazing and terrifying thing I've ever seen my mother do, haha.
Ah, and my sisters and I have the unfortunate habit of verbal diarrhea - my mom was once screaming at my sister, asking her how old she was, and my sister blurts out (in the heat of the moment, having been trained by our mother to answer any and all questions honestly) - "I AM SIXTEEN!"
I was a little different and had an unfortunate sarcastic streak - she was asking me similarly, "WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?!" and I went, "I'm Annie...?" I then proceeded to run around the house, my mother in hot pursuit with the fly-swatter. XD
- October 30, 2008 at 2:54 AM
- see k: through the looking glass said...
LOL. My mom would pull out the thin wooden slats in the bottom of the blinds (you know, the cheap white curtains) or use this dried bamboo stick we had lying around. We always knew a beating would be coming because she'd pull down the curtains in our living room 1) so passerbys couldn't see and 2) to get the damn sticks.
- October 30, 2008 at 11:23 AM
i got metal flyswatter handles and whatever was within reach with my mom. with my dad...he's a taekwondo sabum so we'd spar.It was a sly plan, while everyone thought he was just 'training' me he was actually punishing me! ..oh man the memories of being in pain AND embarassed simultaneously! he literally whooped my ass.
- October 30, 2008 at 1:06 PM
damn you and your left-handedness!!...you abomination!!
- October 30, 2008 at 4:02 PM
I remember holding up a stack of books for long periods of time...
I know it's not related but I still wonder if you will get to the subject of dads and their love for Soju and smoking? Also how moms are quiet and submissive to their husbands but crazy loud and scary with their kids, it's bipolar thing. They both agree that the old folk singers from Korea are the best and modern Kpop groups are inferior.
- October 30, 2008 at 4:24 PM
i know that this has nothing to do with this website or post, but i just thought that only fellow koreans could really enjoy this clip~
by the way, it's not the real park ji sung~
- October 30, 2008 at 8:52 PM
ok seriously, it's 11pm on a weeknight. i woke my sister up because I had to read her the blog about extra homework and Kumon. I couldn't even read it because i was laughing so hard. I love your blog! It makes me feel "normal"!!!!
- October 31, 2008 at 1:59 AM
- Cindy (and Brian) said...
I wish I had this blog as a kid so I didn't feel like I was the only one getting smacked with plastic hanger/hairbrush/back-scratcher/spoon/etc - all while being yelled at and not being allowed to cry. Its so great to be able to laugh about it now!
- October 31, 2008 at 4:05 AM
- Cindy (and Brian) said...
I wish I had this blog as a kid so I didn't feel like I was the only one getting smacked with plastic hanger/hairbrush/back-scratcher/spoon/etc - all while being yelled at and not being allowed to cry. Its so great to be able to laugh about it now!
- October 31, 2008 at 4:05 AM
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- November 1, 2008 at 5:42 PM
- me said...
If you've ever watched "My Sassy Girl", the main character mentions how he has to be careful sneaking in since his mom will use whatever is at hand to beat him. And he sneaks in while she's pounding the laundry. With the sticks. I thought that was awesome.
Coming from a drycleaning family, we had a neverending supply of hangers with the cardboard tubes. They may not seem like much, but when they come swishing at your legs, you regret not having taken them seriously.
- November 1, 2008 at 9:08 PM
I recall having my mouth washed out with soap whenever I would back-talk, or say a dirty word. The old fashioned brown lye soap that came in big bars, in the days when washing machines in Korea were still a pipe dream.
- November 11, 2008 at 2:17 PM
I was never stupid enough to talk back during punishment, but I soon learned that looking her in the eye was just as bad! Word from the wise: keep your eyes downcast -.-
- November 12, 2008 at 7:45 PM
- seitzk said...
My mom SO DID THIS - with our wooden shoehorn! Then, when that went missing (nothing to do with me - honest!) she upgraded to a hot-pink, utterly terrifying car windshield ice scraper, one of the big ones that was a good 18 inches long. It had a huge brush on one end. It still scares me.
- November 18, 2008 at 10:11 PM
Oh, man. I ALWAYS talked back, I ALWAYS looked them straight in the eye to make them as guilty as possible for hitting me. Sometimes it worked. Sometimes, time for a day long whooping!
- December 5, 2008 at 7:08 PM
bahaha...this is soo true....the thing is, chinese people are even more crazy...like korean parents are strict, but chinese parents dont give a crap about their girls. I have a friend that is beaten like everyday and is too scared to do anything...but this forum is funny hahaha
- December 8, 2008 at 11:04 PM
bahaha...this is soo true....the thing is, chinese people are even more crazy...like korean parents are strict, but chinese parents dont give a crap about their girls. I have a friend that is beaten like everyday and is too scared to do anything...but this forum is funny hahaha
- December 8, 2008 at 11:04 PM
i had a korean friend whose parents gave her all these crazy punishments. i think that's why she's bipolar now.
- December 9, 2008 at 2:22 AM
- soso said...
This is all incredibly disturbing. I guess because people don't really know what to do or say when confronted with the spectre of "child abuse"--an inflammatory phrase--at the same time, the knee-jerk emotion here seems to be laughter.
I wonder why that is?
Having had a pretty volatile KM, I identify. In my Korean culture class my prof said Korean cultures aren't more violent than others; but I do believe that physical violence is more common in K families than Western ones. I wish there was a study to demonstrate this. Maybe I'll do it someday.
- December 9, 2008 at 4:00 AM
- JijiN3k0 said...
My mother (Not Korean) used to tell my sister and me "Bring the swizzle stick and come"
It is very sad when you have to bring the weapon used against you. :(
- December 21, 2008 at 1:49 PM
yeah my mom would smack me over the head plenty of times, or just throw something at me (tis the 'korean temper') or when i was younger she would take a stick and hit it on the bottom of my feet- the thinner the stick, the more it stung. hitler would have made a great korean mom.
- January 21, 2009 at 4:26 PM
- johnji said...
thanks chiyo for bringing up old memories, i had a KM and a KD, my KD would be the main punisher, he would line all three of us(3 brothers) he would hit the youngest one first and work his way up to me. he would use a broom handle like stick that he kept in a special place and he would only stop if we fell down, and of course we couldn't fall down on the first hit. we would all struggle to our rooms after the beating and my KM would put neo-sporen on out bruised ass while all of us were in tears including mon and tell us to be good saying things like "you know you dad only hit you because he loves you"
- February 4, 2009 at 9:37 AM
- Hannah said...
Man, I remember getting beat by my umma 'til I was TWELVE. Yea, she would grab anything hard enough to hit me with, her hands, hangers, wooden spoon, those little brooms to sweep up dirt, etc. (never got beaten with the dinner plate though LOL). One time I remember BEGGING for mercy in kneeling over the tub with my bare butt out for her to spank, and afterwards I'd look in the mirror and my butt looked like peacock feathers from her handprints :bright red and pink.
- February 18, 2009 at 6:30 AM
my KM's weapon of choice was a long plastic shoe horn. now this plastic was made of some special monster blend of poly-eurathane (sp?) as now, more than 15 years later, it still hangs in her garage with nothing more than a few dents and probably a few old layers of dead skin from my ass cheeks. oddly enough, i now have an obsessive fascination with shoe horns and can't live without 'em...
- March 10, 2009 at 2:43 AM
oh man this brings back memories :P ~ one major weapon of my KM was to not only tear me down with her viciously sharp words but make up conversations and insults she 'heard' from other people about me to drive home her message of the day
- June 10, 2009 at 3:58 PM
- n s c said...
oh man! i thought my KM was the only one that thought up that whole "find your own stick" punishment trick! it was such a mindgame, b/c you can't bring back something too small, or else, catch the wrath... and so spot on about the not talking back part. you learn that really quickly.
- June 13, 2009 at 7:23 PM
mine was always a wooden spoon or a ruler..and i remember my mum chasing me around the house with a wooden spoon. i would run to the bathroom (the only room with a lock) and lock myself in there until she had calmed down..thank God for locks on doors
- July 18, 2009 at 6:14 AM
I was a wooden spoon kid, too. My Korean mom would start screaming at us from the kitchen, when we heard the rattle of utensils from her pulling out the kitchen drawer- we ran! Her other favorite weapon was a chopstick. This was especially useful for piano practicing. I knew I was in trouble when she turned off the metronome. She would use the chopstick to tap out the rhythm. If I made a mistake while praticing Czerny (Korean style of course- left hand 20 times, right hand 20 times, together 20 times), she would whack me in the head and then continue tapping out the rhythm WITHOUT MISSING A BEAT!
- September 7, 2009 at 10:31 PM
two words...fly swatter
- September 18, 2009 at 2:10 PM
- tisher and adam said...
White mom's DO torture with guilt. And it's never direct, so your anger gets all wonky-jawed. Sucks big time. I wish I had a Korean Mom, they sound awesome.
- September 22, 2009 at 1:27 AM
- Maida said...
My mum entitled a wooden stirring stick as the "mmeh mmeh" stick. My brother and I feared that stick. We cried before we even felt the stick touch our butt!
My mum never made us do anything seriously heinous. We got to sit in the corner, but the mmeh mmeh stick is what we feared the most. D:
- September 26, 2009 at 11:39 PM
I don't have a korean mum, my dad is japanese and my mum's chinese. I remember getting caned almost everyday due to either my own fault or my sister's (she pushing the blame on me).
Anyway, I got smart and ran or grabbed the cane from them and then ran. I think they gave up trying to discipline me after I was 11. I joined the track team two years later.
- November 25, 2009 at 1:03 AM
My mom was never that creative (thank God... or maybe I blocked it out of my memory) but my ex's KM once punished him by making him hold a chair over his head in a corner until sunset!
- January 8, 2010 at 7:52 PM
Love the rest of this blog but this post sucks. The saddest part is you've convinced yourself it's funny.
- January 8, 2010 at 11:34 PM
I agree, anonymous—
all the LOL's and mawkish nostalgia mask a frightening reality. Asians are notorious for being complicit in domestic violence cases.
- January 11, 2010 at 1:01 AM
I thank my KM for the discipline she provided. I can relate to several of these posts. I would bet that most of you who have endured KM discipline are quality individuals. You respect authority, the elderly, and hard work. You have a clear sense of right and wrong and you chose to do what is right. When a friend or family is in need, you are the first to help wanting nothing in return. You have a professional career or you are currently studying for one. Your future is bright. Thanks again to all KM's and the discipline you provided!
- January 18, 2010 at 10:01 AM
- elizabeth said...
Angela, let's be honest and think clearly. There is a difference between "discipline" and "abuse," especially when it comes to teaching CHILDREN. You can teach a child how to be a "quality individual" by showing them how to be a quality individual. Thinking that the professional and personal accomplishments/qualities you mention required beatings from a parent to achieve is just plain foolish and it is a lie you are telling yourself in order to cope. It makes me very nervous to read these "funny" stories. I cannot respect people who hit children. It is not funny now or ever. For the sake of the Korean American community, and all of us, I hope this is a tradition that gets dropped quickly. Very sad.
- February 15, 2010 at 10:55 PM
stuffkoreanmomslike.blogspot.com; You saved my day again.
- February 16, 2010 at 12:09 PM
My KM loved having me bring rulers to her. I soon developed a compulsive habit of hiding rulers. To this day I don't have any rulers at home or in the office!
- March 29, 2010 at 2:15 AM
Being born and raised in the states. I remember back in the day, swapping playground smack down stories with friends of different backgrounds and you're right. Myself and others with KMs always had the most oddly crushing defeats. While I always had the arbitrary "hands up" with no deadline and ass kickings. It was times when she'd bust out her birthright powers of distilling schemed punishment into wit and WTF that truly scared the shit outta me. I can only compare it to a master haiku poet telling someone a dead baby joke. I remember one time I got in trouble. She told me that she would punish me later on that night. It got late, nothing happened and I went to sleep. Some time afterwards she came busting into my room and tells me to go down stairs. Then orders me to take off my shirt and go into the empty garage. Tells me I can't turn on the lights and leaves me there for god knows how long. After sitting there for a while, she randomly flick on and off the garage lights in quick intervals from the inside switch, waits a long while and does it again. When she let me back in, she says nothing. Sensory deprivation time warp is truly cunning. She majored in child psychology in Korea. All I can say is that shit works, but I'll never do it to my kids.
- October 12, 2010 at 4:42 AM
- Dori Dori! said...
I remember when I couldn't solve math problems as fast as her. She would beat me with the math book. I was beat with other subject books too.
When I was little, my parents locked me and my sister in a dark closet because we were too noisy. there was spiders in that closet, and wow, I would never do that to my kids.
- November 11, 2010 at 6:50 AM
I disagree. I believe 맴매 is done to those who really deserve it - either you were being disrespectful, you were being 'fresh,' or you just really needed a good beating to get some sense into you. I totally believe in corporal punishment - too many kids are running around these days having no morals and no sense of respect to elders.
- December 14, 2010 at 5:38 PM
- It's a Waddles World said...
Haha! My KM once made my brother squat in the corner holding a dictionary over his head for an hour because he forged her signature and got caught!
- February 10, 2011 at 12:31 PM
- unchienne said...
Master interrogators too. I remember my mother use to constantly accuse me of being promiscuous in HS (I wasn't allowed to date). Like a human lie detector, she'd rely on the force of my denials to let her know what, if anything, I'd done. Most times she had me in tears, protesting my innocence, and shielding myself from occasional smacks used to emphasize her point. Is it any wonder I was almost 20 before going on my first date? :)
- March 28, 2011 at 12:44 PM
I had a KM who did all the whcking, yelling, throwing things, pulling my hair, disowning me and my brother, calling us ungrateful "green frogs," etc.
Now she denies she did any of it.
It was terrifying atthe time and is confusing now. I can't imagine what I did to deserve all that; I mean, I was a good kid. Straight A's from kindergarten through Harvard, never got in any trouble of any kind, did my chores, never missed a day of school, didn't drink, do drugs, or have sex, quiet and inconspicuous because I was always reading.... And yet she was always going on about putting me in a "Tough Love" program. For what, I never could understand. Being class valedictorian? A virgin? Sober?
Maybe I didn't get it because my dad was not Korean.
But I consider it child abuse, and her denying it ever happened plus calling me a liar who "makes up stories" -- and not being above slapping me in the face to this day -- have made me decide to have no further contact with her. She's screwed with my head enough. No more. I've asked her to stop and she won't, and I'm invoking my right to self-defense. Because that s--- hurts. I am afraid of her to the extent that if I get a letter from her, or an e-mail, I'm actually scared to open it. Who knows what craziness it contains.
And it is enough, already. No more.
- June 9, 2011 at 8:44 AM
So true XD
My mom's favorite form of punishment was forcing me and my sister to hold our hands out while she cracked a wooden spoon (with a hole in the middle) onto our palms repeatedly. If that was not accessible, she would beat us with whatever she was holding. I once got knocked over the dome with a coconut ladle for telling a joke. Ahhh yes, good times. =)
- November 25, 2011 at 11:31 PM
I am korean, and my mom keeps beating me up for not studying. My grades are average, I get about 3 As, 3 Bs and 2 Cs. I don't really like studying and I already planned what I want to do in the future and that is being a pro skier or working in a fim production company. I am tired of my mom beating me up, swearing at me, telling me that I am just worthless garbage. And I don't want to call the police or the child abuse place because I don't want my relatitives think I am not normal and not loving my mom.
What should I do?
- March 6, 2012 at 10:19 PM
My mom beats me up when I don't study. what should I do?
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Career w/Phillies: .281 AVG / 150 HR / 559 RBI / 71 SB
In 1980 while en route to a league championship, the Phillies drafted Juan Samuel. In 1993 while en route to a league championship, they drafted Scott Rolen. The Indiana third baseman made his splashy Phillies debut in 1996, then traditionally became a rookie in '97, winning the NL Rookie of the Year award after a fine season (.283 AVG, 21 HR, 92 RBI). Quickly, Rolen's bat showed he was one of the game's premier infielders. He slugged 31 home runs and drove in 110 in 1998, at age 23. Moreover, he was an exceptional fielder, winning four Gold Gloves as a member of the Phillies. Many compared him to Mike Schmidt, and while those comparisons seemed dead on early, injuries derailed Rolen's ascension to more of a crawl. He still put up great numbers (2001: .289, 25 HR, 107 RBI), hitting 20 home runs almost every season he played in Philly. Of course, his tenure in our city came to an end, as Rolen was traded to the Cardinals … "Baseball Heaven," he called it. He descended from Heaven last year, being traded to Toronto.
Comment: Of all his moments in pinstripes, maybe Rolen's most memorable was his two-home run night to lead the Phillies in late 2001, the first night baseball resumed after the attacks of Sept. 11. He'll always be remembered for that. Injuries stopped him from being legendary, and a tough relationship with the team hurt worse, but no one can deny Rolen's place in Phillies history.
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I have no love for players who had no love for the Phillies. Scott Rolen, Curt Schilling, and others may have had some great years for the Phillies, but in my book I put them just a notch above J.D. Drew for the way they left.
Rolen deserves to be this high on the list. When with Philly he was an elete third baseman. Like Mike Schmidt, as a person, he was a moody and not at all fan-friendly. Now I am glad that he is gone and largely forgotten. He wore out his welcome here and also in St. Louis because he did not get along with management and proved to be too sensitive to thrive in the spotlight. Based on the last few years, I believ Scott Rolen is on the way out of major league baseball. However, I hope he finds peace and success in Toronto.
I agree! I believe Rolen and Schilling should be disqualified from the list! They aren't Phillies in my book!
F- Rolen
When the Phillies traded Rolen, I thought he may have gotten a bad rap and that Phillies fans were too harsh on him. But then he didn't get along with Tony LaRussa and didn't speak to him for an entire season! Rolen was too sensitive for St. Louis, so obviously he was no match for Philly.
It's a shame because given his unbelievable defense, he was on a Hall of Fame career path, but injuries and being a wuss derailed that.
Tough to accept Rolen as a great Phil above so many of the names that proceeded him on this list. Sure he was a great player here but he soiled his reputation and was a graet player just not a 'great Phil'
I remember the game in 01. When he hit the 2nd homer, it put the Phils ahead over the Braves and that place went CRAZY. I never saw so many American flags in my life. Also, there were grown men crying like babies(including myself) in the styands that night after the national anthem was sung. Although I think Rolen was a petulent little baby, I will probably tell my grandkids about that night in the history of our country. It was memorable and utterly amazing.
hey, i dont blame rolen or schilling for wanting to get out of philly when they were here. the teams were pathetic. they were the only two all stars they had. bill giles just was not committed to winning. i saw all of mike schmidts career, great fielder he might have made one great play a month. scott rolen made two a week he was fantastic, if he had a fault it was that he played too hard. he did the fans a favor by speaking out. he would fit perfectly with this team, i would take him back in a heartbeat. schilling too.
I know that buttmunch will yell at me for mentioning Pete Rose, and I am OVER IT, but there is NO WAY Rolen is #28. I would have accepted Rolen as #54 and Rose at #28. Rolen is also a buttmunch, the same caliber as the one who yells at everyone for mentioning Rose, but Rolen was good, so he deserves to be on the list.
Look at the plus side, Rolen did the same thing to the Cards so it is not personal. Rolen is a buttmunch.
The most memorable rolen story is clearly his first game back at the vet, as a Cardinal (I was in attendance). By FAR the loudest boos i have heard, even to this day.
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ALthough I whole heartedly agree on the degree of Scott Rolen's Buttmunchedness. However, Rolen, as mentioned, was a four time gold glover, Rookie of the year, all star, ect, ect. During his Tenure with the Phils, one could argue that he is top 5 all time as a Phil at third base. I really can't think of any higher except Schmidtty. I may have had him in the 30's, some could argue that he should be a bit higher on the list. But he was a cry baby and personality wise was a guy that was easy to loathe. As much as I hated the fact that he was a cry baby, I still missed him the day he left. Being a season ticket holder since birth, and seeing such bad baseball for so damn long(other than the 93 team), Rolen made some lean years fun to watch. If he would have stayed, we may have won a title sooner. Just think David Bell.
Although, to think he was in baseball in St. Louis, he has now entered baseball hell in Toronto.
baseball heaven in St. Louis, sorry.
buttmunch, the only buttmunch in philly is eskin, and andy reid has a big butt.
Eskin definately munch's a hefty amount of butt, ironiclly it happens to be Andy's.
Eskin is the "King" of buttmunches
Jason B. – Ok, I will give you that, BUT Rolen's buttmuchness should penalize him 50 slots to #54 LOL Kidding, but I do see your point… Bell for ROlen was not much of a "trade" (I mean 3B to 3B not team trade), but it was nicer with Bell…
I thought he cost Bowa his job and derailed a damn good team. If there's an as(s)terisk on this list, put it next to his name.
rolen higher than hamels and rose, and morandini doesn't even make the list. i'm sorry tim, but this is getting sad.
I have been a Phillies fan since 1960. My favorite team is the 1961 edition. You know, the one that lost 23 in a row. Of all the great Phillies players and great Phillies baseball I have seen over the decades, I must admit that the only times I hated a Phillie was when Scott Rolen came to the plate. Forget the good numbers. This guy was about as tasteless and graceless (not a fielding reference) as they come. Aim the ball at his head and banish him to Toronto. He belongs there.
Tim, I love this list but you should have made it 200 entries. The Phillies just have so much history. For contrast, have you considered compiling an all time worst Phillies list. Check out this site for some suggestions. http://inquirer.philly.com/pdfs/2007/worst-team.pdf
WE HAVE AN AWESOME TEAM… Rollins, Utley, Victorino, Howard, Lidge, Hamels, Myers, Moyer, Werth….
Lets do this again!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow,. . Tim, I can't believe you put him this high. I've loved all your picks thus far, and Rolen did put up numbers, I remember respecting him when he played in Philadelphia, but as a Phillie,..? you're going to put him in the top 30..? All my continued gratitudes for compiling this list, but I would have loved to see Kruk or Bowa get in there. Other people have their thoughts, that's just mine.
This piece of dirt would not have made my list. He would have been # 1 on the Prima Donna list
Awesome link. I remember Kyle Abbott… He was god awful bad. There was one game where my pops and I got there, he saw who was pitching, so we left. That was the night he got his first and only win of the season.
Sometimes you just wish players would shut-up and play baseball. You just had Juan Samuel on your list. A great talent, but played on some horrible teams. I never remember him speaking out against the Phillies organization. Now he's on the Phillies Wall of Fame for being a good player and a CLASS GUY. Scott Rolen will never be accused of being the latter. Looking back over this list there are at least 20 other players I would put above Scott Rolen. I hope he enjoys his time in Toronto.
when rolen was here, he was undoubtedly my faborite player, when he left, he remained my favorite player because i was still only 10 years old. When i got older and learned of the terms of his departure, i started to grow bitter towards him, but i don't hate him as much as many other fans.
Mixed emotions on Rolen – good numbers, whined his way out of Philadelphia and then whined his way out of St Louis.
It wasn't just the Phillies that ran him out of town.
The two homer night in Sept 2001 still one of the best ever though.
I am glad he got a ring w/ the Cards. but the guy has a lot of Diva in him.
One of the top 5 defensive 3Baggers in histroy in my book. I blame Ed Wade more than I do Rolen for the fiasco. Rolens problem was that he didnt like the boos. I bet if he could go back in time he'd do things differently. I think he's a good guy overall.
One of the most complete Phils' players of the past 20 years…A shame he had such personality issues.
Luckily, we have since moved on and now have THE most complete Phillie of the past 20 years, at second base instead of third.
I really dont see how you can compare rolen to schilling, Maybe I just remember better then the some of you, but I don't every remember shill asking to get out, the year before he was traded to arizona, he turned down the option to trade him, and the front office ask him again the following year to go. No way schill is close to the idiot buttmunch rolen was who cried every time he had the chance to. But he was a good player when here and deserves to be on the list somewhere.
Interesting list so far. Rolen is distasteful to me and not worthy of the ranking. Gold Glover or not, there are intangibles involved in selecting where players are slotted.
what a farce this list is… I got 2 words for you… PETE ROSE! I cannot give this list any credibility.
scott rolen was a great phillie
though plagued by injuries
he simply expressed publicly the same frustrations felt by many fans here.
the phils in the 90's were playing on a shoe string budget and thus were the bottom feeders of the nl east.
i remember going to the vet in the 90's and seeing a sea of empty blue seats. i remember those damn eagle fans chanting e-a-g-l-e-s in july.
how frustrating is must have been to play for that team then
i wished he would have stayed with the phils. the team is now what he had hoped it would be
Scott Rolen, now there is one completely unlikeable prick.
I'll side with the Rolen fans here. He was a great player and one of the few enjoyable reasons to watch the Phils. I can never believe all the talk about his being a prick. I mean, compared to Rose, a world-class douchebag and unregenerate liar? Or Bowa, another total douchebag who can't hang onto a managerial job because he's a lunatic with no emotional control who can't get along with anyone? Puhleeze!
Rolen's problems with the Phils were my problems with the Phils. He wasn't happy that the Giles administration was happy to put a crappy team on the field year in and year out while pretending to be a small-market team in a large market. He didn't want to commit to a team only to watch it dump all the other good players for salary reasons, and said so. If you're going to be pissed at someone, pick Bill Giles for "masterminding" all this.
Now to more important things. Does this mean Greg Gross is in the top 25?
well said ed, you restored my faith, . i am not the only philly fan buffaloed by the media in this town. the majority of fans in this town are sheep.
"Scotty-too Hottie" one of my favorite Phils! That guy could play.
My favorite player of all time. He's deserving of this spot.
Loved Rolen as a Phillie. Looking at his stats, aside from his 2004 career year, his best seasons were mostly spend with the Phils. I do feel he whined his way out of town, but I also feel there was more than enough blame to go around on management's side as well
Scott Rolen, probably deserves to be on the list but career in Phila not too long therefore belongs 75-100.


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Some of the fee money collected by the county from property owners last week went back to the community to help build new homes for those who might not be able to afford them otherwise.
Commissioners Rich Caridi and Karl Wagner and Pike County Treasurer John Gilpin presented a $50,000 check to Mike Donlon of Pike County Habitat for Humanity at the county meeting on September 25.
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In other business, the commissioners approved a resolution of "Intent to Participate and Approve an Application for a Grant" for "Local Share" funding aid, which comes from gaming revenues, in the development of the new courthouse addition.
In answering a question regarding opposition to the newly released addition plans, Commissioners' chair Rich Caridi said he did not credit any "vocal opposition," saying the only thing that matters is the Architectural Review Board, which is said to have received the plans favorably.
They also tabled bids for winter maintenance of several county roads and for food service providers at the correctional facility.


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