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In this Phillies Nation Writers Roundtable, the whole crew examines a couple of questions. Here they are:
Q: On a scale of 1 to 10, how worried are you to face the Giants (10 being most worried, 1 being least worried)?
Bonus Q: What one players worries you the most from the Giants (and try not to say Tim Lincecum)?
Nick "The Beerman" Staskin: On a scale of 1-10, my worry-meter is at about an 8. Lost in the superb pitching performances of Roy Halladay and Cole Hamels last week, was the fact that once again the offense went MIA. The combination of Jimmy Rollins, Shane Victorino, Jayson Werth and Placido Polanco went 7-45 against pitching that wasn't exactly the rotation of the San Francisco Giants. For two months, I've been hoping and praying that the Phillies could avoid the Giants en route to their third straight pennant, but that was not to be. While H20 is an awesome trio, you can't win games without scoring runs. Tim Lincecum and Jonathan Sanchez both have lethal career numbers against the Phillies as well. Philadelphia has hit Matt Cain good over his career, but Madison Bumgarner could prove to be an interesting wildcard.
(Bonus):The Giant who scares me the most is easily Jonathan Sanchez, a powerful lefty who has had the Phillies number his entire career. He is 3-1 against the Phillies with a 2.86 ERA and .175 BAA, to go with 40 strikeouts in 34.2 IP. The key to getting to Sanchez is patience though, as he has the propensity to throw a lot of walks, including seven in 13 innings pitched against the Phillies. However, he did go 2-0 with a 1.38 ERA and 0.92 WHIP against the Phillies in two starts this year. In those two starts, the Phillies managed just five hits.
Amanda Orr: Comparing offenses, the Reds are superior to the Giants. However, when it comes to pitching, there is no argument; the Giants have one of the best staffs in the league. They led the majors with a 3.36 team ERA, .236 batting average against, and 1331 strikeouts. Tim Lincecum had a "down year," but his 14 strikeouts/complete game shutout in the NLDS indicate what he is capable of. He'll remain a top pitchers for several years. It goes beyond Lincecum, though. Actually, Matt Cain was better, posting a 3.14 ERA and 1.08 WHIP. The pitching doesn't stop there. Jonathan Sanchez, another strikeout pitcher, had a 3.07 ERA this season. The Phillies arguably have the edge with a 1-2-3 punch of Roy Halladay, Roy Oswalt, and Cole Hamels,
but the Giants are not too far behind.
The Phillies clearly put up the better offensive numbers. The Giants no longer have Barry Bonds, or anybody that puts up a huge power display, although they do have a good core of players that can hurt opposing pitchers. This year's Giants offense is much improved as opposed to the past few years. Pablo Sandoval didn't live up to his expectations this year, but he is always a threat. Aubrey Huff had a very good year. Rookie Buster Posey has yet to let anybody down. While the Giants may not have the best offensive numbers as a team, they do have guys then can cause some damage.
(Bonus): Tim Lincecum is an obvious pick, but I'll go with Jonathan Sanchez who is 3-1 with a 2.86 ERA in nine career games against the Phillies. He has 40 strikeouts in 34.2 innings. As a whole, the Phillies have collected a batting average of .175 against Sanchez.
Paul Boye: Before the playoffs started, I found myself worrying more about the Giants than the team the Phillies were actually playing, the Reds. One series later, I don't feel much different, save for a bit of extra confidence in the Fightins. I love the way the Big Three pitched, and even though the offense didn't have many hits fall, they put a fair charge into a few that could have easily been hits, were they not at fielders.
I'm still worried, as I always am at playoff time, but where I would have answered this question with an 8.5 last week, I'll now say 7. The Giants are good, and not to be overlooked, but I think the Phillies have a better shot to prevail now than they did last week.
(Bonus): The scariest Giant comes packaged in unassuming, baby-faced sheep's clothing, but the wolf that is Buster Posey is not something to taken lightly. He's a rookie, sure, but he's already one of the best offensive catchers in all of baseball. In a lineup that doesn't feature many tough bats, Posey is the key; keeping him off the bases, much like Joey Votto in the Reds series, will be essential for the Phils. Runs will be hard to come by, and the less you let Posey hurt you, the better your chances are of escaping with a win against a tough array of Giants starters.
Kieran Carobine: After the Phillies clinched the NLDS, I will admit I was rooting for the Braves to beat the Giants. We all know that did not happen. And yet, the Giant are really not that scary. Their offense is led by Aubrey Huff at .290/26/86. Now don't get me wrong, those are good numbers. But when you are coming in against a Phillies team with offensive leaders hitting .298, smashing 31 homers and knocking in 108 RBIs it is kind of hard to compare numbers. I won't waste the typing telling you who holds those stats; you know the names.
Overall as an opponent, the Giants are a scary 6 (on a scale of 10). Tim Lincecum at the top of the rotation is not fun. Roy Halladay will try to make it funner but it will be a tough game with ultimately Doc pulling it out. Offensively speaking, neither one of these teams really made headlines in their respective Division Series. Both teams hit a meager .212. And I am not sure if it makes it better that the Phillies did it in three games as opposed to the four games it took the Giants to reach that mark. For the regular season, it looked like the same story. The Phillies had the edge, barely, in average (.260/.257) and home runs (166/162). San Francisco does have the edge, I guess, in pitching. They did lead the league in ERA (3.36) and strikeouts (1331).
Looking at these two teams, it is odd to see their stats side by side. On paper, they seem evenly matched. I don't think this is the case. The Giants have the Freak, Matt Cain, and Jonathan Sanchez lining up against Doc, Roy Oswalt and Cole Hamels. Even if I wasn't a Phillies fan, I would say it's not fair.
(Bonus): After all this, I am worried about Buster Posey. The kid can play. There is no question about that. He calls a great game behind the plate and can hit for average and power to all parts of the field. Besides Posey, Giant's closer Brian Wilson's beard really disturbs me. It looks like a bad impression of Sean Connery by Darrell Hammond with glued on facial hair. He would probably take 'swords' for 200.
Pat Gallen: I'm at about a 5.5 on the freakout meter right now. Lincecum and Halladay completely cancel out and I think the duo of Hamels/Oswalt gets a slight nod over Cain/Sanchez. And lets face it, the Giants can't hit a lick. Buster Posey is really the only formidable threat in that order. Pat Burrell might give the Phils some trouble because he knows them well, but other than that, the offense is sub-par.
As for the Phillies lineup, it somehow gets enough bang for its buck. They've done enough and are waiting, just waiting, to break out big. It basically comes down to which lineup has the better series and we all know who holds the advantage here. So I'm slightly worried. I'm not confident, per se, but I'm not worried either, so put me in the middle. It should be a very entertaining, low scoring series. But the Phillies should prevail.
(Bonus): Jonathan Sanchez bothers me a bit. He's a sneaky son of a gun. One moment it looks like he can be beaten, next thing you know he's racked up 10 strikeouts in seven innings. Patience is the key with Sanchez, he'll make you swing out of the zone and if he's successful, it could be a long Game 3 for the Phillies.
Michael Baumann: On a scale of 1 to 10, I'd rate this series an 8. This isn't because I think the Giants are a better team than the Phillies, or even that I think the Phillies will lose–it's just that the Giants have one great strength (starting pitching) that can exploit what has been the Phillies' biggest weakness over the past few weeks (streaky offense). While the Giants, in my mind, are a bigger threat than the Reds were, I still expect the Phillies to win. My high anxiety level mostly stems from this being one more opportunity to go wrong as the Phillies get deeper into the postseason. They could play a U-15 travel team from Missoula, Montana and I'd still rate this series at least a 6.
There isn't one player on the Giants that I really fear. If you go position-by-position, there are three places where San Francisco has a marked advantage: closer, center field, and left field. Buster Posey might win NL Rookie of the Year, but his OPS+ this season was only one point higher than that of Carlos Ruiz, who is the superior defensive player. The Giants' rotation arms might be the scariest part of the team, but when Lincecum-Cain-Sanchez-Bumgarner are compared to Halladay-Hamels-Oswalt-Blanton, it's a wash at the absolute worst. At closer, Brian Wilson has been just about the best in the game this year, but at most he'll pitch five or six innings this series, and the Phillies have demonstrated an ability to come back in the late innings against just about anyone. In center field, Andres Torres had a better year than Shane Victorino, but Torres's OPS was only .656 over the last 28 days of the season, and he's still only a few weeks removed from an appendectomy. Now that Torres has cooled off, center field is also a draw at worst. That leaves…left field, where Raul Ibanez has been streaky, but serviceable, posting a .275/.349/.444 line in 155 games. The Giants' left fielder, however, posted an OBP 15 points higher and a slugging percentage 65 points higher after joining the team in midseason. That's a clear advantage.
And there you have it: the San Francisco Giant I fear most in this series is Pat Burrell.
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swords for 200…lol. don't forget all of our hitters are bursting at the bellies, due. We have Utley, Howard, Werth, Ibanez, chooch, rollins, (bigger the stage…), vic, palonco come on. I know everyone here knows the lineup, but take a step back and look at the damage these guys can do. All of the Playoff games have been low scoring. Hell, 3 out of 4 series I feel the winner was determined by the team who took advantage of the other teams errors. The matchups are supreme, pitching is supreme, and the phills will bat!!! Can't believe I am rooting for the Yankees to beat the Rangers. Uhmmm lets see in the last 2 weeks I have rooted for the braves, the yanks, the rays, and now the yankees again….Armageddon is here.
I will have to say I'm shocked at some of the worried factor numbers here…7? 8? Really? I mean we know the Giants have a great pitching staff and the Phillies hitting has been up and down all season, but doesn't the Phillies pitching staff make it a lot easier to swallow the offensive fluctuations throughout the year? I am more near a 5 myself. And to answer the second its Jonathan Sanchez…..I feel they need to get to this guy and if they can they will win the series, but if they don't hit him at all as their history suggests it will be an interesting series. If the Phillies hit at ALL they will be fine. Let's not pretend the Giants are some scoring machine. If not for Atlanta screwing up majorly we might be playing the Braves……the BRAVES, who were so injury depleted they just couldn't hold on anymore, the BRAVES who hit worse than the Giants. Just think about that for a second….the Giants had trouble with THE BRAVES. Those were all ridiculously close games. Now I know the Phillies got lucky with the Reds too, but Halladay pitched a no hitter and Hamels threw a complete game shutout. Can't win all the games 7-0. This is the playoffs…low scoring games are essential to winning the series. I really just can't wait to get this started and see if the offense can get into a real groove against some quality pitching.
I'm with Pat on this one. The Phils seem to find just enough to win ballgames. Over a 7 game series, this team is well equipped to weather a dud or 2 offensively and still come out in the long run with a W.
I'd give this a 4.5 on the stressometer – Who is troublesome to me?? I think the usual – Ex Phillies (Burrell, Rowand, just because) – Cain.
I think this series goes 6 or 7 with the Phils coming out on top.
The Phils' bats should come alive in this series. No need to worry. What will it get you? Phils in five.
I don't know what to think or say. It's the playoffs….anything can happen.
Like it's been said before….this team…the Phillies….is out to create a lasting identity….a legacy, if you will.
And Doc made that statement rather clear last Wednesday evening.
When the dust settles….Phillies prevail.
I just think its either the Phillies are going to woop up the Giants or the series will be a long one. The Giants are going to have their hands full with this entire Phillies team throughout the series. The Giants have quite a few guys on that team that weren't even in their thoughts at the beginning of the season. How worried do you think the Phillies pitching is about the Giants lineup? Then ask yourself the same question about the Giants pitchers. The Giants have had a great season. It's time to leave it at that and let the real team who is going to represent the NL stand up.
Our offense was MIA but we don't have Brooks Conrad on our team. Hence, we will win. That's the only reason the Giants won their series.
Plus we're gonna throw some five and six spots up on the board so it doesn't really matter either way. Remember Lincecum's rough patch during the season? Yeah, it's gonna come back to haunt him.
The thing that concerns me is the Giants have nothing to lose and the Phils impact bats have a habit of being a little to absent at times they could really cement the Phils hold in play-off series.
That said the Phils are on paper the best team still in the play-offs with a bullet,
I think the phrase for the series will be productive outs, with such good pitching on both sides its going to moving runners with outs that I think will contribute to many of the runs that will score in this series.
So the brilliant pitching of Lincecum and Sanchez had nothing to do with the Giants winning the series?? It's all Brooks Conrad's fault??
I too am somewhat surprised at the worry numbers. Let's face it – during the Post Season ANYTHING can happen.
Because of that – and only that – my worry meter is at 4.95.
Let's say the pitching staffs cancel one another out.
What's left?
Phillies are better offensively
Bullpen is better then is generally recognized
Playoff experienced
Home field advantage
On a mission from god
Make that 4.75
By the way.
Look for Sanchez to start game 2.
He's better on the road than at home. He's lefty and he's pitched VERY well against the Phillies.
IMHO Bochy would be nutz to pitch Cain in game 2
What the Beerman said.
phillistien-we are home game 2!!
You are right is what i am trying to say….lol….We have hit cain well, so they will more then likely pitch him at home in the bigger ballpark!
Something must be wrong with me, (as if many of you didn't know that already) but I differ with everyone so far. My worry meter on a scale of 1-10 is a miniscule 1. This team played almost .750 baseball the last part of the year, and I see no reason that will change now.
You could argue that the Rays had a great record and got knocked out first round, but they, like most of the other playoff teams were not hot at the end. You could argue that all the rest time will slow our momentum, but we had guys that needed this rest. Certainly all the rest Doc got between starts didn't hurt him. You could argue that the Giants are better than the teams we've been playing, and to a certain extent I'd buy in to that, but not enough to worry. San Diego went into SF the final weekend and almost swept them. Atlanta has limitations, and the Giants didn't run roughshod over them either. I'm quite confident in this team. While the Giants pitching is very good, no one in that lineup scares me all that much. Phils in 6, we win it on Saturday at home.
For the fans, I think it's going to be a great matchup," said Ryan Howard, whose three home runs against Lincecum are more than any other player in the majors.
I always worry, not sure what the scale means here. I don't think we will lose but I have concerns. Let's put it this way, my concerns about the Giants are higher than Reds or the team that the Braves had in the playoffs.
Phils did not do well against the Giants this year and H2O did not do well vs the Giants. I see it going to 7 games.
Sum it up = 7.
I'm kinda with lefty here,not a 1, but i will go a 3 on the worry meter.To me we are far and away the better hitting team,i'd give us the slight edge in pitching based on postseason exp.What it comes down to is as long as we hit,this series is in the bag!!!By hitting i mean score 4-5 runs on avg and in game 1, i think 3 runs will do it for ROY……
My Worry rate is 7. I really feel the outcome of this series rest on the right arm one single man, that man is Joe Blanton. Joe Blnton has been solid after the ASG, but he hasn't pitched a meaningful game in like a month. I don't know how he will fair. If Big Joe can get the W in game four the series is ours, for sure.
ChuckS- It's funny but that thought crossed my mind too! If our big three and their big three turns out to be a standoff, the difference maker could well be Joe B and the pen.
It seems that every postseason series always has an unexpected difference maker, and it could be big Joe, or the pen, or both.
JPB- I'm sorry I gave you incorrect info last night. I was a little worried that the Baseball reference link might be only this year, but wasn't sure.
Is it Saturday yet?
Trust me….I'm far more worried about other things in my life that are a lot more important than whether the Philadelphia Phillies beat the San Francisco Giants.
This is a hobby…something to pass the time and make my complicated, busy life a little less stressful. I'm not worried at all….. it defeats the purpose.
pat burrell scares me the most because he's a former phillies and our old pals have a history of doing good against us (excluding scott rolen in nlds) if the offense shows up i like our chances,if they carrie over from the reds series,my panic meter is around 8 i don't get how this team hits the slumps they do and everyone on the team it seems slumps at the same time it's crazy…………
ryan howards a guy i really wanna see step up i mean whens the last time this guy had a big home run?i'd like to see a little more from werth too………
Np lefty!!!—-I STILL THINK WE GET TO HIM!!!
I'm with you. Not worried at all. We will lose a game or 2. We might even lose the 1st game 1-0. Who knows. But after watching the Giants vs the Braves, it is clear to me that the Giants are not that good. Their pitching was good, not great. It was a patchwork lineup of over-the-hill guys and career back ups playing for the Braves. I was very unimpressed by the Giants.
Phillies in 5, but the games will be close. Seriously, Doc and Hamels are on fire and the Giants line-up is below average. Patient bats rule the day!
I hope all your predictions are right. I've been having this conversation w/others re: the offense; the team seems to do only what they have to, to win, but not more than that. It would be nice if everyone would hit big at once – now – through the WS.
I'd like to see fewer errors from Utley. I'd also like Rollins to look more like himself in the line-up & on the field. If Charlie is going to keep him in, then I want him to look squared away – and he doesn't.
As for more from Werth – I know many hate to admit it but his hitting was a large part of the reason the Phils fired up toward the end of the season & got where they are now. In the last month or so, the NLDS was the only time Werth didn't hit well. Three games. He still got on base (hits, walks or errors), he stole 2nd twice, & had a couple runs.
Having said this, I admit his last AB resembled an AB from July, which flipped me out a little . . . but I'm not worried about Werth. He didn't hit well against the Reds over the summer either. Generally he tends to play well in the playoffs & has hit homers off Lincecum. I think he'll be fine.
Last yr Howard didn't hit much until almost the end of the WS. That bothers me slightly b/c he isn't hitting much now either.
I wouldn't say I'm worried about an NLCS w/the Giants (though I'd rather it was the Braves), I just feel like we need to be in good form to nail it.
OK,HERE ARE NUMBERS VS THEIR BIG 3-Victorino: 12-for-44 (.273), 1 HR, 2 2Bs, 2 BBs, 7 Ks
Polanco: 5-for-17 (.294), 2 BBs, 3 Ks
Utley: 12-for-46 (.261), 5 HRs, 3 2Bs, 5 BBs, 13 Ks
Howard: 11-for-43 (.256), 5 HRs, 1 3B, 4 2Bs, 2 BBs, 18 Ks
Werth: 4-for-24 (.166), 1 HR, 3 BBs, 11Ks
Ibanez: 2-for-19 (.105), 4 BBs, 11 Ks
Rollins: 10-for-44 (.227), 1 HR, 3 3Bs, 3 2Bs, 2 BBs, 10 Ks
Ruiz: 5-for-23 (.217), 1 3B, 2 2Bs, 5 BBs, 6 Ks
Big Three vs. Phillies
Lincecum: 2-1, 3.17 ERA, 48 1/3 innings, 36 hits, 54 Ks, 0.993 WHIP
Cain: 0-3, 6.23 ERA, 26 innings, 28 hits, 23 Ks, 1.577 WHIP
Sanchez: 3-1, 2.86 ERA, 34 2/3 innings, 22 hits, 40 Ks, 1.212 WHIP
Howard kills Lincecum. The Big Piece is 6-for-19 (.316) lifetime against him with three homers and a pair of doubles. Though Ibanez hasn't hit any of Frisco's Big Three, Lincecum seems to give him the most problems. He has just one hit and five Ks in 10 plate appearances against the two-time Cy Young winner. Utley and Rollins should be looking forward to Game 2. Against Cain, Utley is 7-for-15 (.467) with 3 homers, while Rollins is 6-for-10 with 16 total bases. Victorino is a .400-hitter against Sanchez at 6-for-15. Werth, on the other hand, goes blind against the lefty. He is hitless in 14 plate appearances against Sanchez with six punchouts.
My NLCS MVP prediction: RAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUL
The matchup worries me, but I think the phils will prevail. Giants don't have the offense we do, but our bats could wake up.
Anyone else going to saturdays game?
I think @RyanMadson46 will be a big factor in the NLCS. With all the talk about H20, he quietly has stepped up his game during the 2nd half of the season. He's also doing some cool stuff around the city. I just bought one of his new "Finish Strong" T-shirts that are being sold with proceeds going to the Variety Children's Club of Philadelphia.
Phillies in 6.
My Worry rate is 7. I really feel the outcome of this series rest on the right arm one single man, that man is Joe Blanton. Joe Blnton has been solid after the ASG, but he hasn't pitched a meaningful game in like a month. I don't know how he will fair. If Big Joe can get the W in game four the series is ours, for sure.
JPB- I'm sorry I gave you incorrect info last night. I was a little worried that the Baseball reference link might be only this year, but wasn't sure.
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Home List of Titles Phase diagram of the Weeks-Chandler-Andersen potential from very low to high temperatures and pressures
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- Phase diagram of the Weeks-Chandler-Andersen potential from very low to high temperatures and pressures
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- Ahmed, Alauddin; Sadus, Richard J.
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- A combination of two molecular simulation algorithms have been used to determine the solid-liquid coexistence of the WCA fluid from low temperatures up to very high temperatures. Values are reported for the coexistence pressure, temperature, energy, enthalpy change and densities of both the liquid and solid phases. At very high temperatures, the coexistence pressure approaches the same 12-th power soft sphere asymptote as the 12-6 Lennard Jones potential. However, in contrast to the Lennard-Jones potential, which shows a discontinuity of pressure at low temperatures, the coexistence pressure of the WCA potential approaches the zero-temperature limit. Empirical relationships are determined to accurately reproduce the coexistence pressure and both solid and liquid phase densities from near zero temperature up the very high temperatures. The simulation data are used to improve the accuracy of a WCA equation of state. The validity of common melting and freezing rules are tested.
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Timberline Resort hosts Special Olympics
Athletes from around the state gathered at Timberline Resort last month to participate in the 2013 Special Winter Olympics.
Terry Stone, the volunteer Winter Games director and representative of Timberline, spoke to the Inter-Mountain about the event. She said the games began Jan. 24 and lasted through the afternoon of Jan. 25. Several counties from around the state were represented.
"Athletes from all over the state attended the games," she said, including some from Tucker and Randolph counties.
In addition, she said, athletes from Virginia were able to attend because the games in their state had been canceled. In West Virginia, participants are designated by county affiliation, and in Virginia they are designated by delegations, which can include multiple counties.
Three delegations from Virginia attended this year's West Virginia Games.
Stone said more than 100 athletes, ages eight and up, participated.
Downhill skiing and snowboarding, slalom skiing and snowboarding, cross country skiing and snowshoe events took place.
"These athletes earn their medals," Stone said – they follow Olympic rules and can be disqualified for performing improperly during an event.
The only alteration made to any event is the distance of the various snowshoe events. The comptetion's snowshoe events are shorter than regulation length, at 50 and 100 meters.
Stone praised their dedication, saying the athletes deal with wind chill and snow and never complain.
She said participants had lodging and meals at Canaan Valley Resort. A Victory Dance, conducted during the evening, was also completed at Canaan.
Time trials were done that day and a party, the Victory Dance, was celebrated that evening.
Dave Perry, director of the Randolph County athletes, said four participants attended the games from his county.
The four were active in the 50 and 100 meter cross country skiing events.
He mentioned specifically that one athlete, Linda Teter, was given the honor of officially announcing the beginning to the games at the opening ceremony.
Standing before everyone in attendance, she recited the phrase, "I declare these 2013 games open."
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#2278 - 05/13/00 05:39 AM false friends
Registered: 03/15/00
Posts: 163
Loc: Malaga, Spain.
I've just read today's word 'pander' and I'm remembering that some years ago I introduced a friend of mine as a 'procurer'. It was the mother of all faux pas!.
Spanish 'procurador' is english 'proxy'.
Does anyone know if there exist a list of spanish/english "faux amis"?. Must be an interesting reading!.
Juan Maria.
#2279 - 05/13/00 08:26 AM Re: false friends
Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 03/15/00
Posts: 6511
Loc: lower upstate New York
I'm sure there is such a list. I have a book published over 20 years ago listing English-Portuguese false cognates. One of my favorites is 'exquisite' (in Brazilian Portuguese, 'exquisito' means 'weird')
#2280 - 05/14/00 03:14 AM Re: oops
Registered: 03/22/00
Posts: 1981
I'd love to see such a thing, if anyone can find it.
In the meatime, here's a couple of "bloomers" from a school exchange trip to Barcelona when I was about 13.
On the first night I realised that I'd forgotten to pack a nightdress (mine was a long white Victorian(ish) cotton one). So I told the people looking after me that I needed to write to my mother to ask her to send me "un vestido largo para la noche" - I didn't know the word for nightdress so I was trying to say a long dress to wear at night-time. What I was really saying, apparently, was a long ball-gown. They were wondering where they would have to take me so that I could wear it!
I followed it up by saying "me voy a la caha" I meant to say cama (bed), instead I said "I'm going to the box". Bride of Dracula or what???
#2281 - 05/15/00 10:55 AM Re: false friends
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Posts: 1
When I was learning Spanish, I remember telling a story to my boyfriend's mother who spoke Spanish only. In the course of the tale, I said that I was "muy embarazada" intending to convey that I was very embarassed. Unfortunately for me, embarazada is a false cognate of embarassed, and really means pregnant. I had some explaining to do after that faux pas!
#2282 - 05/17/00 03:30 AM Re: false friends
Registered: 03/15/00
Posts: 163
Loc: Malaga, Spain.
I didnt know this thing about exquisito. The Spanish and English meanings are similar. Its wonderful how, being close neighbors Spaniards and Portuguese -we use to understand each other when we speak slowly- , a word can evolve so differently.
This nightgown word keeps making me think twice every time I come across with it, the picture that first appears on my mind is that of an elegant ball dress.
The thing with embarrass and embarazar is quite curious. We can say that an embarrassing situation is una situación embarazosa, but we, males, cant be embarazados. We have also a word with the same etymology as pregnant that is preñada -I hope that Spanish tilded n shows properly- but, nowadays, its used mainly referring to animals, it can be used for people but in a very informal way.
The evolutionary thing is what make those false friends so attractive to me, and the fun in then too!.
I like the view of words as living beings that are in continuos evolution and how they change their form, meaning or both.
Juan Maria.
#2283 - 05/17/00 08:33 AM Re: false friends
Registered: 04/02/00
Posts: 2
A friend (who has a little Dutch and somewhat more Afrikaans) was once in a crowded train in Amsterdam. From the far end of the carriage his companion called to him that he'd found two vacant seats. My friend had already found somewhere to store his backpack, and called out (loudly, so as to be heard) something like "Ek komme, maar ek moet my eers aftrekke" ("I'm coming but I'm first going to unburden myself.") Unfortunately, 'aftrekke' in Dutch means 'masturbate'...
#2284 - 05/17/00 08:57 AM Re: false friends
Registered: 03/22/00
Posts: 1981
I wonder if anyone can tell the JFK story. He made a speech in Berlin which was meant to imply that he was very much one of them. he used the word "Berliner" (or similar)which had a quite different meaning. My German is too embarassingly awful to try to relate the story myself!
#2285 - 05/17/00 11:25 AM Re: false friends
Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 03/15/00
Posts: 6511
Loc: lower upstate New York
Jo, JFK said "Ich bin ein Berliner." Which, literally, is correct German. But something nudges me, I think you might be right.... isn't 'Berliner' slang for doughnut?
... I'm not betting dollars on that :-)
#2286 - 05/17/00 12:05 PM Re: false friends
Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 03/15/00
Posts: 11613
Loc: Louisville, Kentucky
That's about the most 'situacion embarazosa' (thanks,
juanmaria) I've heard. I'll bet he had the attention
of everyone on the train!
#2287 - 05/17/00 02:29 PM Re: German Donut
Registered: 05/09/00
Posts: 112
Loc: Auckland, New Zealand
The reference to John Kennedy's attempt to order a jelly donut in Berlin is a well-known Urban Legend. Refer to
It is an amusing tale, nonetheless! :o)
Anybody want to bet Marks to Berliners?
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"Odd Man Out": Huffington Post Drops the Ball
Blogger Jon Greenberg has posted a review of Odd Man Out on the Huffington Post. Click Here to read Mr. Greenberg's review.
Greenberg chooses to defend Matt McCarthy, downplaying the inaccuracies as "sloppy," "mundane" and "trivial."
He's entitled to his opinion, although the overwhelming evidence suggested by those (such as me) who have done their homework is that the word "fabricated" better describes several passages.
Greenberg appears to be guilty of his own sloppiness. He writes:
The anger and accusations have come from several fronts. A relentless Angels blogger engrossed with the team's minor league system has hammered the book for a month, admittedly before he even read it.
Apparently I'm the "relentless" blogger in question. But Greenberg is flat wrong when he says that "admittedly" I have not read it.
Those of you who are FutureAngels.com readers know that I received an advanced copy in January and posted a review on January 30. That was more than two weeks before the Sports Illustrated issue hit the magazine racks with the Odd Man Out excerpt, and more than three weeks before the book itself went on the bookshelves.
In fact, to my knowledge, the only review to appear in print before mine was the Orange County Register review by Sam Miller on January 29.
I'll also note that in mid-January McCarthy's publisher promised me an interview with Matt, but asked to postpone it until the week before the book's release in late February. After I posted my review on January 30, I never heard from the publicist again about the interview. I said I wanted to interview McCarthy with a recorder on the line so all of you could hear for yourself his answers in his own voice, so there would be no disputing what either of us said. I asked her to forward an e-mail from me to Matt so I could contact him directly. She said she would; if she did, Matt did not respond.
Strictly my speculation, but my guess is that once they saw my review, and Sam Miller's, they knew people were out there fact-checking and the jig was up. McCarthy well knows I was around Provo in 2002 — which is why there are plenty photos of him in the FutureAngels.com Photo Gallery — so perhaps he decided to duck an interview with me, knowing I'd ask hard questions about events in the book I knew didn't reconcile.
Greenberg buys into McCarthy's claim that any errors in the book are merely chronological slip-ups.
But back on March 6, I posted this article about a game at Ogden which clearly showed one incident described in the book was more than a chronological slip-up.
In summary, McCarthy claimed that manager Tom Kotchman ordered pitcher Hector Astacio to deliberately throw at an Ogden batter after Provo shortstop Erick Aybar was twice hit by pitches. Right away, I thought that didn't sound right — (1) because I've heard Kotchman many times tell his players the best way to retaliate is to win the game, and (2) it's against Angels policy to throw at other teams' batters because beanball wars can result in an injury.
Looking into the facts, I found that Aybar had not been hit by a pitch at all in the game. Neither had any Provo batter. I posted the box score in that blog so you could see for yourself.
McCarthy claims he heard Kotchman order Astacio to throw at the Ogden batter. But that also doesn't ring true. McCarthy was the starting pitcher the night before; the usual routine for a starter is that he spends the next game in the stands behind home plate charting batters or working a radar gun or just chilling out. If McCarthy was in the stands, not the visitor's dugout, then he couldn't have possibly heard Kotchman order Astacio to throw at an Ogden batter.
The next inconsistency has to do with McCarthy's claim that Kotchman pulled Astacio from the game when Hector refused to throw at the batter. Well, look at the box score and you see that Astacio was getting lit up — he'd already given up five runs in four innings. This game was in the second week of the season, when Rookie-A managers usually have their starters on a relatively low pitch count that works out to three or four innings. So it looks to me like Astacio was done.
In any case, McCarthy claims he went into the visitors clubhouse to use the bathroom and found a distraught Astacio. McCarthy claims he consoled Astacio.
Well, again, this doesn't make much sense to me. In Ogden, the visitors clubhouse is accessed through a door in the left-center field fence. The visitors are in the first-base dugout. So for a player to use the bathroom, he'd have to run all the way across the field between innings. Presumably Kotchman and pitching coach Kernan Ronan would have noticed a pitcher on his off-day sprinting across the field.
If McCarthy was charting behind home plate, though, he would have been in civilian attire and easily could have used the bathroom on the concourse beneath the stands, which would have been much closer. Having been to Ogden many times myself, I know that it's possible to access the clubhouse by walking up the third base concourse into the front office, then hang a right and pass through a door into the clubhouse. But that's a long way to go for a pee, especially when a bathroom was right below you on the concourse.
Greenberg apparently doesn't see any harm in McCarthy embellishing his stories, but I can see plenty of harm in this one tale. For openers, it makes Kotch look like a head hunter. What if an Orem pitcher this year uncorks a wild pitch and accidentally hits a batter? The opponent's manager may think Kotch ordered a purpose pitch and may order retaliation. Such retaliation often comes at the expense of a team's top hitter. Do we want to see an Angels' top prospect break a hand or worse because McCarthy chose to embellish? What if an umpire tosses an Orem pitcher and Kotchman because he thinks a wild pitch was a purpose pitch? Not to mention that Kotchman could get suspended and fined by the league for ordering such a pitch.
The review in today's Los Angeles Times quotes Howie Kendrick as saying that McCarthy's claim he went to dinner with Kendrick and Casey Kotchman was also false. Reviewer David Davis wrote, "[McCarthy] says he was inspired to write Odd Man Out after former colleagues began making contributions on the field. Guys like pitcher Joe Saunders and second baseman Howie Kendrick, who now play key roles for the big-league team in Anaheim."
Given that McCarthy apparently made up the spring training friendship with Howie Kendrick, and the many denials by other players mentioned in the book who are now in the big leagues, I have to wonder if McCarthy simply used their names to embellish the book to make it more attractive to a potential publisher.
Alan Schwarz, The New York Times sportwriter who wrote the authoritative dissection of McCarthy's claims, replied yesterday on BronxBanterBlog.com to McCarthy's claim that Schwarz refused to accept McCarthy's "point-by-point rebuttal" of the inaccuracies Schwarz questioned. Schwarz said that McCarthy's claim is "not only preposterous but adds to his growing list of outright falsehoods." Schwarz has an audio recording of his conversation with McCarthy which he offers to "make available to any interested party" to prove McCarthy is lying. I've left a message to take him up on the offer, although I suspect he wrote that in anger and the Times lawyers will stop him.
Finally, on a personal note … As to Greenberg's claim that I've been "relentless" in hammering the book — guilty as charged.
The book is untrue. I don't like lies. This happens to be a subject about which I'm very knowledgeable, so I can speak with some authority as to the truthfulness of the book.
McCarthy now says he should have used a fact-checker. One reason I wanted to talk to Matt before publication was to offer to fact-check the manuscript for him if there was going to be a revision. I knew right away when I read it that it had a lot of mistakes — some of which were trivial, but others that would be damaging to the reputations of many people. Tom Kotchman can take care of himself, but what about the many guys named in the book who long ago left baseball and now work in blue-collar jobs while trying to feed a family and pay a mortgage? McCarthy alleges underage drinking, attempts to seduce underage girls, and players offering to peddle illegal druges. These are all crimes. The statute of limitations expired long ago, but nonetheless both employers and spouses are going to question if the player actually engaged in these illegal behaviors.
If Greenberg doesn't like me standing up for the truth and for what's right … too bad.
The least he can do is post a correction admitting his accusation that I hadn't read the book was false. It would be even better if he'd post where he got that lie from.
UPDATE March 13, 2009 11:00 PDT — I posted a comment at the end of Mr. Greenberg's blog entry asking him to retract his allegation that I haven't read the book yet criticize it anyway. That comment was deleted within a half-hour after I posted it. Read into that what you will.
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Stephen, in a post on January 12th, you said:
"I'll withhold judgment until I read the book, but the claims that "Americans and Dominicans don't speak to each other" and "everyone puts his own stats ahead of the team's success" simply aren't true, from my eleven years of observation."
I'm assuming that's what Greenberg is referring to.
I'm aware that I wrote that, but it certainly isn't "relentlessly" "hammering" the book. As you quoted, I said I would withhold judgment until reading the book. And it was very clear that I read the book as soon as I got it from the publisher two weeks later. Mr. Greenberg's statement was clearly written to make it look like I've been criticizing the book without reading it.
Not to mention totally failing to mention all the evidence documented by me and others proving events in the book didn't happen.
I'll also note that I've spoken with several people named in the book who don't want to go public. There are far more incidents described in the book that I'm told by the named individuals didn't happen, but I wasn't authorized to quote them by name.
If/when there's a lawsuit, my guess is these individuals may give depositions and then it'll be public record that lots more in this book is untrue.
It's a shame McCarthy chose to go this road. The life of a minor league player is one that should be told. But it should be told truthfully, not making up tales just to make the book more appealing to a publisher.
Mr. Smith, Jon Greenberg here. I never saw the Huffpost comment, or i would've commented, nor do i have the power to erase (nor am i, for that matter, a blogger. If you think I erased it because I'm too scared of your complaints, you're wrong). I was absolutely referring to the Jan. 12 posting where you started ripping the book before reading it. I was also (later) referring to blogs like deadspin that started ripping it without reading it.
My whole point in writing (i made an interview request before the times brouhaha started, almost 3 weeks) to talk about writing a book from memory, hence the term "memoir" about a universal subject, like growing up, getting your first job, dealing with life, through the prism of baseball.
To be honest, most of these details that are being questioned, and i have no doubts he made errors reconsolidating memories, trying to formalize other ones, and just screwing up people and places. But I think it's been rather lazy of writers (and not really yourself here) to say, well, since Howie Kendrick and Bobby Jenks say they don't remember some washout they met for a week six years, that they're right and he's wrong. Memories are a very tricky thing.
Mostly, I thought the book was an interesting and fun read. I am a writer and I love to read about sports, especially from behind the scenes. And since most books about minor league baseball are crap, I liked this guy's take on HIS experience.
I read it with as skeptical eye, as far as conversations, quotes, etc., but when you're reading a memoir, you have to suspend a little disbelief, as it's not journalism.
i haven't read alan schwarz's comments, and he's a great reporter so i can't wave off what he said, but i talked to matt for a while and i think the point-by-point rebuttal is a tad misunderstood. i think mostly he's trying to say these mistakes weren't malicious (even the head-hunting, which wasn't really head-hunting, by definition).
anyway, that's my schpiel off the top of my head.
Jon, thank you for your response.
Addressing your points:
(1) I did not say you erased my comment. I did write, "Read into that what you will." I searched and searched for an e-mail address to contact you privately, but could not find one. Perhaps that's Huffington Post policy, but in any case the options for reaching you were limited. An e-mail address would have helped avoid any misunderstanding.
(2) You wrote that I "started ripping the book before reading it" on January 12. Word for word, here's what I wrote:
I came across a listing on the Barnes & Noble web site that former Provo Angels pitcher Matt McCarthy has a book coming out on February 19 titled Odd Man Out: A Year on the Mound with a Minor League Misfit.
According to the summary, the book will reveal "inside-the-locker-room tales of teammates who would go on to stardom, including Bobby Jenks, Joe Saunders, and Ervin Santana." It promises to expose "dirty truths of the minors: the Americans and Dominicans don't speak to each other, the allure of steroids is ever present, and everyone puts his own stats ahead of the team's success."
I'll withhold judgment until I read the book, but the claims that "Americans and Dominicans don't speak to each other" and "everyone puts his own stats ahead of the team's success" simply aren't true, from my eleven years of observation.
That's a "rip"?! Must be a new definition of "rip" I've never read before.
I specifically said I would withhold judgment until I read the book, but I also said that in my eleven years of observation I had not seen the claims that were in the P.R. blurb. That's a statement of fact, my personal observation, not a "rip."
So I still believe your statement about me was untrue, and I would appreciate a retraction of that statement in your article.
(3) Regarding Kendrick and Jenks not remembering McCarthy … I can't speak to Jenks, but as for Kendrick I'm aware of certain facts I've been told off the record that support the allegation his spring 2003 friendship with Kendrick is fabricated. It's up to those individuals with that information to come forward if they wish. I will point out that on page 276, the scene where McCarthy says he went to dine with Kendrick and Casey Kotchman, McCarthy writes that Kendrick wiped honey mustard off his mustache. The problem with that is Howie didn't have a mustache at that time. I have photographic evidence of it, as I've been shooting photos of these players all through their careers. Kendrick himself told the L.A. Times he and Casey didn't know each other at that point. Along with what I've been told off the record, it further supports the argument that this scene was fabricated.
And as I've thoroughly documented, the Astacio incident at Odgen appears to have also been fabricated.
(4) As for the "point-by-point rebuttal," McCarthy has made that claims in many interviews — print, TV, radio. That's been his mantra ever since the NYT exposé came out — he offered to prove his writings were true, but Schwarz refused to see the evidence. Schwarz says he has an audio recording that proves McCarthy is lying, and offered to make it available "to any interested party." I've contacted Schwarz to see if the offer is still valid, although frankly I suspect the NYT's lawyers will nix that idea.
(5) I fully understand the wish for this book to be true. Having followed the Angels' minor leagues since the mid-1990s, I really wanted it to be true. Tom Kotchman's story is a story that needs to be told. But the truth is that several significant incidents in the book appear to be fabricated, which calls into question the veracity of the entire work.
I'm working on my own book about the history of the Angels' minor leagues. Everything in that book will be verifiable; I'm a big believer in footnotes to show sources. I understand that McCarthy's book was a "memoir," a word that originates from the French word for "memory," and that seems to be McCarthy's defense now — this is how he remembers it.
If this goes to court, I suspect that will be his defense. But that doesn't excuse writing stuff that alleges crimes, drug use, and other incidents that could damage careers, reputations and marriages. (I'm not exaggerating — I've had contacts from several people in the book worried about just that.) If an author is going to write a "tell all," he'd better have his facts documented, because otherwise he's asking for a lot of trouble.
Thanks again for your response.
No sweat. You have a good point about referring to you hammering the book before it came out. I haven't gone back and checked all your posts you made before you read the book, a couple, i remember, but I remembered feeling like it was a pre-emptive hit. so i acknowledge being slightly sloppy in my writing of your writing, in that you did the hammering after you read it (but again, i'm writing this without my factchecker).
as for the huffpost, you have to register to post comments, so maybe it has to be verified. i'll link your post to mine when i have time, as conversation is always interesting.
as for the so-called controversial details that some remember differently, there was no malicious intent here, and McCarthy makes pains to identify each character as someone with different layers, pointing out the good and the bad, including himself.
i, for one, thought he painted kotchman as very real, and in truth, was pretty complimentary on the important facets of his personality, i.e., he was a caring, nurturing teacher who tried to instill the proper fundamentals into his players. yes, he showed his more private, "clubhouse" persona, but anyone who's covered baseball, or for that matter, been around men in general, knows this is often the case. mccarthy lavishes praise on kotchman in the book and in interviews, which makes me wonder how closely people read this book.
anyways, you obviously have a vested interest in the organization (i do not), so you're take and mine do, and should, skew quite a bit. i would only tell people who haven't read the book, that it's a good read, and that mccarthy's story is a valid one.
that's all,
Jon, thanks again for your response.
I'm sure neither of us wants to endlessly flagellate this deceased equine, so I'll make a couple more points and you may have the last word if you wish.
(1) To read everything I've written on "Odd Man Out," use this link:
… Or click "Odd Man Out" on the Tags line below any entry, and it will give you all the posts. The oldest is at the bottom; you'll see that all I posted before the review was the initial report of the book's publication, followed by a reference to the Orange County Register's review which was posted online as I was writing my review.
(2) Do I have a "vested interest in the organization"? Hmmm. Well, I suppose you could argue that. I don't work for them, they don't pay me a penny, and neither do their minor league affiliates. They grant me access to the minor league camp, which is the only facility under their control, but then anyone can walk into the complex for free and do what I do. The only money I make off this is selling photos of the players, 90%+ of which are bought by their parents and loved ones, but I typically lose a couple thousand dollars a year doing this as a glorified hobby.
I will say this … McCarthy has a big publishing company's P.R. machine behind him to protect the book. Tom Kotchman can take care of himself, but all the guys named in the book who were accused of committing crimes have to fend for themselves. Most of them went back to obscure lives in blue-collar jobs. Until the NYT came along, I was pretty much the only one standing up to say there were problems with the book. Vested interest or not, I thought it was the right thing to do, and I still do.
(3) As for people being different in private than in public … Well, that's true of every living being on Planet Earth. That doesn't mean the controversial passages are true. Nor does it mean that everyone puts shields up when I walk by. The feedback I've had from the front office is that they worry I'll see things I shouldn't because everyone is used to me being around. Either way, I'm not interested in exposing what should be left private. I knew about the Rally (insert your euphemism). Is Tom Kotchman colorful? Absolutely. I think he's brilliant at what he does. But why not just tell what really happened instead of embellishing?
(4) As for "no malicious intent" … Strictly my speculation based on what I've read so far, but in my opinion I think what happened is that McCarthy wrote an initial draft that was probably pretty close to accurate. He took it to a friend who's a writer at SI. He was told to write less about his own daily activities and write more tell-all stories to make it more commercially attractive.
That's where I think the problems began. Who embellished, who fabricated, is yet to be told. He may have chosen to layer into the book close encounters with future major leaguers, when those encounters may not have actually happened, to make the book more appealing.
Before the exposé, McCarthy said the book was based on his "detailed journals." When asked by the NYT to present the detailed journals to resolve the discrepancies, he declined.
He's said that he's in touch with former teammates who support the book. When asked to name them, he declined.
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this looks awesome! i love blended greens or veggie dressings, and I love mint especially! thanks for sharing, i will totally be making this the next time i have fresh mint! genius.ReplyDelete
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This would be deliciously refreshing. I bet it would also be really good drizzled over some tacos - like shredded lamb tacos or something. Mmm...ReplyDelete
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Thanks! Always looking for vinegar and dairy free options! Glad the shallot is optional (also can't have onions).ReplyDelete
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This looks delish! I have been trying to find/create dressings that work in Phase 2 -- My vegan caesar didn't work out great , so I am totally excited to try this tonight! Yum. ~ MegsReplyDelete
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Ali, I made a half batch of your dressing for dinner yesterday. Bravo! Very good!ReplyDelete
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I made a batch yesterday and used half to marinate some cubed turkey breast I sauteed for dinner. My kids loved it. I am enjoying the rest on salads - as is my son.
Bet it would be good over quinoa in a sort of middle eastern style dish, what with the mint and all.
Thank you so much for all of your wonderful recipe ideas.
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The Pepper-Mint dressing is absolutely delicious!! My new favorite salad dressing! Thank you so much for posting this recipe!ReplyDelete
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Flounder Amandine over Spinach
Time Prep: 15 minutes
Total: 27 minutes
Servings Total: 4 servings
What You Need:
1 Tbsp. GREY POUPON Dijon Mustard
1 Tbsp. KRAFT Real Mayo Mayonnaise
1lb. flounder fillets
¼ cup PLANTERS Salted Almonds, chopped
2 cups sliced mushrooms
1 Tbsp. olive oil
1 bag (5 oz.) baby spinach leaves
1 cup halved cherry tomatoes
¼ tsp. garlic powder
1 Tbsp. KRAFT Grated Parmesan Cheese
Make It:
PREHEAT oven to 400°F. Combine mustard and mayo. Place fish fillets in single layer on lightly greased baking sheet; spread evenly with the mustard mixture. Sprinkle with almonds.
BAKE 10 to 12 minutes or until fish flakes easily with fork. Meanwhile, cook mushrooms in hot oil in large skillet on medium-high heat 3 minutes. Add spinach, tomatoes and garlic powder; mix well. Cook an additional 3 minutes or until spinach is wilted and mushrooms are tender.
SPOON spinach mixture onto serving platter or 4 dinner plates. Sprinkle with cheese; top with fish.
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I have a table like the one below in mysql:
id word sentance answer explanation
1 happy I am sorry for your unhappines unhappiness
2 consume I am a consumer consumer
First I am trying to do is create the variable '$answer' which captures in the random row generate , the content in the column "answer" of that row for exampls 'unhappiness'
To generate the random I am using the code below:
$con = mysql_connect ("localhost", "root", "root");
if (!$con)
die('Could not connect: ' . mysql_error());
mysql_select_db("clients", $con);
$range_result = mysql_query( " SELECT MAX(`wd_id`) AS max_id , MIN(`wd_id`) AS min_id FROM `words` ");
$range_row = mysql_fetch_object( $range_result );
$random = mt_rand( $range_row->min_id , $range_row->max_id );
$result = mysql_query( " SELECT * FROM `words` WHERE `wd_id` >= $random LIMIT 0,1 ");
To echo the random the random answer I am using the following code.
while($row = mysql_fetch_array($result))
echo "
";
echo "
";
echo "  Clue word: 	";
echo "" . $row['wd'] . "	";
echo " Context sentence: 	";
echo "" . $row['st'] . "	";
echo "" . $row ['wd_id'] . "	";
echo "" . $row ['answer'] . "	";
echo "
";
I also have a text input box and a submit button.
I want to compare the word typed in the input box with the random word.
If they are the same I want to echo the word in green
If not I want to echo the typed word in red
The code I have is as below:
To compare and green or red:
$input = $_POST['1'];
if (isset ($_POST['SUBMIT'])){
if ($input == $answer)
echo "" . $answer . " ";
else echo "" . $input . "";
echo $explanation;
echo $related;
echo $pron;
the problem I have is that
when I try comparing the input from the form to the variable $answer, it doesn't compare.
Basically because I are not able to define to variable $anwer with the information I want it to have.
I need the the code that defines the variable $answer (which would be content in the columna "answer" of the random row generated by the variable $result).
Any help would be very welcome
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First of all , do not use words like "input, system, file , answer, question, date etc etc" as variable names.
second, if $input cannot be compared with $answer, then display both the variables and verify that they have a value.
second, if $input cannot be compared with $answer, then display both the variables and verify that they have a value.
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Investment consultants are starting to steer clients who invest in bonds towards smaller managers amid concerns that investors in larger ones risk being stranded in the event of heavy redemptions. It is a sign of rising concern over the systemic risks from illiquid bond markets worldwide.
Consultants Towers Watson, which has assets under advisory of more than $2 trillion worldwide, is close to completing a review of fixed income managers and Chris Redmond, its global head of bond manager research, said it would mean "favouring smaller managers" in some instances.
He said: "We are applying a slightly higher bar [and] thinking about size, style and the new liquidity regime. People who have a strategy that is reliant on strong liquidity and have been lulled into a false sense of security will suffer when the market changes."
Redmond added that larger managers who operate "buy and hold" strategies will still be in favour, though, as will managers who have modified their approach to offer some kind of insurance against a market sell-off.
Gavin Orpin, head of trustee investment consulting at LCP, said: "We are moving away from standard long-only credit funds and accessing these more specialist strategies. I wouldn't say it's down to concerns over liquidity specifically, but we certainly have raised concerns about where credit markets are in general."
Concern is rising about deep problems caused by the lack of trading in bonds, especially corporate bonds. Banks are unwilling to commit the capital that would allow them to hold sufficient supply of bonds to facilitate customer trading. Consultancy GreySpark estimates, as of 2013, the value of corporate bonds held on bank balance sheets has fallen by 82% since 2007.
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Late last month, the FCA issued a notice to investors warning that bond funds, while offering "limited risk to capital", could struggle to sell their holdings in "extreme market conditions".
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Alex Thompson, principal in Mercer's fixed income manager research team, added: "We look at the overall level of assets that firms manage… In an adverse environment, are they going to be able to move and get out of the positions? It depends on the style of the manager."
Pimco – whose $225 billion Total Return fund is the world's biggest – declined to comment.
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The New York Times | November 12,2012VERSHIRE — Past the chicken coop and up a hill, in a spot on campus where the wooden buildings of the Mountain School can seem farther away than the mountains of western New Hampshire, there sometimes can be found a single bar, sometimes two, of cellphone reception.
The spot, between the potato patch and a llama named Nigel, is something of an open secret at the school in this remote corner of Vermont where simplicity is valued over technology. "We're at the periphery of civilization here," said Doug Austin, a teacher.
But that is about to change.
The school offers high school students, many from elite private institutions in the Northeast, a semester to immerse themselves in nature. The students make solo camping trips to a nearby mountain for a day or two of reflection and practice orienteering skills without a GPS device. Between English and environmental science classes, they care for farm animals, chop wood and read the works of Robert Frost. And in the process, many say, they stopped scouring the campus for its sparse bars of reception and lost the habit of checking their Facebook pages at every opportunity.
As the rest of the country got high-speed Internet, Vershire (population 730) has lagged, relying on landlines shared among neighbors, dial-up and (for homes that face the right way) satellite Internet service that cuts out when the weather is rough. But cellphone signals have been seeping in, and soon there will be more.
This fall, technicians will start laying fiber-optic cable to bring high-speed Internet to the town. Cellphone coverage is expected soon after. "Right now we're the Third World country of Vermont," said Gene Craft, the town clerk. "We'd like to be in touch."
That presents a challenge for the Mountain School: how to regulate the use of smartphones and other devices that serve as a constant distraction for 21st-century teenagers, who are here to engage with the rural setting and with each other.
True to its mission of encouraging "collaborative learning and shared work," the school asked its students and alumni to develop a technology policy that will determine whether to ban phones, allow them in a limited way, or leave the decision whether to disconnect to students.
Many students, alumni and teachers have asked Alden Smith, the school's director, to declare a ban. But the school has always held that its students can be trusted to make good choices, he said. "We have to figure out the balance between how to preserve the values we have," Smith said. "But I tend to think that adolescents, particularly the ones we get here, when mentored, will rise to the occasion when trusted with real responsibility."
To make phone calls from the 300-acre campus, students must take turns, using prepaid calling cards, at small phone closets in each dorm. At the recommendation of alumni, there is no Internet service in the dorms, only in the academic building, and incoming students are strongly discouraged from bringing DVDs or loading videos on their laptops. (Even where there is Internet service, any online activity that requires significant bandwidth — watching a video on YouTube, for example — means a loss of signal to others because the town's fair access policy limits bandwidth to the school.)
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Star Wars. Obviously.
Lotr :d
depends for powers id rather be a jedi haha but for entertainment id take lord of the rings
I personally perfer LOTR to Starwars,
Well let's see
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Star Wars win no difficulty BTW Star Wars>Naruto.
Well, LOTR rofl stomps the recent trilogy, but with the first trilogy, it's a pretty close call. I'd lean to LOTR, but I'm a huge Star Wars fanboy.
If you're talking about power though, Star Wars without a doubt. Current Luke Skywalker is the most powerful character in fictional history.
Wasn't this discussion in the movie Clerks 2? I think they summed it up best and if you have not seen the movie watch it. Ultimately Star Wars makes LOTR its b--ch.
Originally Posted by ninjastormgenaration33
Well let's see
-Lightsaber(Burns through anything)
-Force Speed(Super Speed)
-Force Trick(Basically Genjutsu)
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Star Wars win no difficulty BTW Star Wars>Naruto.
Naruto is far supirior to StarWars
Star Wars for me
though i cant exclude LOTR both are great i just prefer a futuristic setting
Originally Posted by Deadai
Naruto is far supirior to StarWars
No it's not....
Current Luke Skywalker and a few others can solo Narutoverse with minimal difficulty.
They're both fantasy stories that are enjoyable. I can't stand the LotR movies because they were butchered, the cartoon versions were better actually as far as story. I love the LotR books, mainly The Hobbit because its such a greate tale that stands all on its own. I prefer the original Star Wars trilogy 4-6. The last three that were done nearly destroyed Star Wars completely.
I see no reason to try and compare LotR to Star Wars...that's like the apples and oranges thing.
If you're talking about which one was better entertainment wise, movies is star wars. Lord of the Rings was a more in depth work as a book series, but Star Wars was more fun to watch. They're both really good; why choose when I'm gonna take both anyway?
LotR =P
Originally Posted by Deadai
Naruto is far supirior to StarWars
Also — the answer, is of course, LOTR — one man, JRRT, created the middle earth universe to the breadth and detail that has taken several decades & hundreds of people to build what we know as the SW universe.
LotR for the epic fight scenes.
Star Wars for a decent storyline.
Star Wars. It's a better movie series, based on the classic episodes 4,5 & 6. LOTR is a incredible series of novels, the movies are good, but the books are better. So, assuming were discussing the movie version, Star Wars for the win.
This NEEDS a poll. I prefer Lord of the Rings.
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