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Season premiere review: 'Game of Thrones' - 'Valar Dohaeris': Return to burning man
"Game of Thrones" is back. I offered a general review of the start of the season on Thursday, and I have specific thoughts on the season premiere, "Valar Dohaeris," coming up just as soon as I drink with the harlots...
"I want to be free." -Jon Snow
Though the tour guide approach "Game of Thrones" takes to storytelling can at times be frustrating, it's necessary at the start of a new season, to remind us where everyone was, where they are now, and what they're going to be up to over the course of these 10 episodes. With even more characters and more locales than before, "Valar Dohaeris" is particularly full, so much so that Benioff and Weiss said earlier this week that they had to move several characters (Arya and Bran, notably) out of the premiere entirely just to let it breathe.
Appropriately enough for a season premiere, "Valar Dohaeris" features characters trying to regroup and re-establish themselves after notable setbacks last season. Jon Snow has to impress Mance Rayder so he can become a soldier and not an executee. A scarred and bitter Tyrion petitions his father for what should be his by right of succession. Davos (who did, in fact, survive "Blackwater") returns to Dragonstone in hopes of separating Stannis from Melisandre. Sansa's looking for another way out of King's Landing, courtesy of Littlefinger. Mags makes a strong first impression on the poor people of King's Landing, and on her cowardly monster of a fiance. And Dany's new ship drops anchor in the city of Astapor, where the best soldiers available to her are the Unsullied, eight thousand slaves with all individuality tortured out of them by their cruel masters.
For the most part, these were very strong re-entry points to the series. Even Jon Snow, who was a drag for most of season 2, made a strong early impression in his meeting with Mance(*), framing his argument so forcefully that I'm almost questioning his loyalty at this point. Jon is a big believer in oaths and honor and whatnot, but he's had misgivings about the Night's Watch for a while, and the things he's seen beyond the Wall could be enough to make him a genuine traitor and not a double agent.
(*) A king hanging back and letting a more bombastic underling greet a newcomer is a familiar trope (even "The Wire" used it with the way we met The Greek), but since I knew Ciaran Hinds had been cast as Mance, I could enjoy watching him appear to be a humble observer to Jon's arrival in the tent.
On the other hand, Stannis and Davos were among the more disappointing parts of season 2, and they remained so here. The way Stannis has been presented to us so far — we don't meet him until after he's long been under Melisandre's spell — he's a very one-note character, and Davos' unblinking devotion to him just makes Davos seem naive.
But Tyrion's encounters with his sister and then his father were, unsurprisingly, fantastic. Though I miss seeing Tyrion in a position of power, much to the consternation of those around him, the contempt the rest of the Lannisters feel for him is so visceral, and played so well by all the actors involved, that both those sequences crackled. In offering him better lodgings and other rewards for his work in the battle of Blackwater — and in not attempting to murder him — Tywin ultimately does better by Tyrion than Cersei did, but the absolute best Tyrion can hope for from his old man is the most grudging of respect. At this point, it seems almost a chicken-and-egg thing in the family: Tywin hates his imp son so much that Tyrion practically has no choice but to drink and whore around, which only makes Tywin hate him more — to the point where Shae's presence in King's Landing blinds him to the other good things Tyrion accomplished (including keeping Joffrey in check at times) during his time as Hand.
And this is a much more promising beginning for Dany than what we got last year. Of course, she's in a much stronger position now, with a ship, some of Xaro's treasure and dragons that are starting to grow and fly. But last year seemed mainly about getting her from Point A to Point B on the map, where here she's already beginning to learn about the cost of her attempt to reclaim her family's throne. The origin of the Unsullied, as described by their slave master, is horrifying, but they also seem like very impressive warriors, and as Jorah notes, Dany will treat them better than any other buyer might. And no matter how she comes by her army, she's going to be sending many, many of them to die on her behalf. Dany tends to be high-minded, but she's preparing for a battle that will make that difficult.
The premiere closed on a bit of an underwhelming note, with the return of Barristan Selmy, who was the captain of Robert's guard — of the scenes remaining in this episode (as opposed to anything with the Stark kids that might have been relocated elsewhere), I might have gone with Davos being sent to the dungeon or Tywin threatening Tyrion — but on the whole, this was a satisfying return to Westeros (and its neighbors).
Some other thoughts:
* The fabulous main title sequence is back, now with a new location in Astapor, and a modified one in Winterfell, which is a charred, smoking ruin.
* Loved the casual shot of the giant at work in Mance's camp. These days, I imagine that's a pretty simple VFX shot, but it said so much about just how different things are on this side of the Wall — and, as always, how little Jon Snow knows of it.
* Hands up, all those who were disappointed Cersei's timely exit prevented a throwdown between Bronn and her guards.
* I quite liked the exchange between Ros and Shae over how far each has come since they were introduced (both as Tyrion's companion for the night, in fact). As much as the show tends to use the whores of Westeros for sexposition scenes, these two have turned into actual characters with positions of some influence (Ros as Littlefinger's right hand, Shae as Tyrion's lover and Sansa's protector), and it felt good to have them cross paths.
* Over the course of writing various pre-season pieces, I realize I had finally learned by osmosis how to spell Daenerys, but will stick with "Dany" for simplicity's sake. And I'm still waiting for a better nickname suggestion than "Mags" (which invokes Margo Martindale and poisoned moonshine glasses) for Margaery, which I suspect I'll need at least another year to master. But until then, Mags it unfortunately is.
As always, I'd like to keep the book/spoiler issue as simple as possible, however difficult that may be for some to understand. We are here to discuss "Game of Thrones" AS A TV SHOW, NOT AS AN ENDLESS SERIES OF COMPARISONS TO THE BOOKS. Therefore, here's the only rule you should remember: if your comment contains the phrase "the books" without it being immediately preceded by "I haven't read," then you should probably delete what you've written and start over. Anything even vaguely questionable will be deleted, and if you see something that I haven't already removed, please feel free to email me. You may think you're being clever and not giving too much away; in almost every case, you are wrong.
As usual, I've set up a message board discussion thread where you can do as much TV vs. books discussion as you want. And if you don't want to go to the message boards, by all means go to one of the dozens upon dozens of sites (whether "Thrones"-specific or not) that provide a venue to discuss the books to your heart's content. In these comments, everything book-related that has yet to come up on the TV show (plot, characters we haven't met, motivation, etc.) is verboten.
Based on the comments to that initial review, a lot of people are having a hard time understanding this, so I will put it very simply: If people cannot stop themselves from discussing the books in the comments, then there will no longer be comment sections for these reviews. Life's too short.
What did everybody else think?
Alan Sepinwall may be reached at email@example.com
Game of Thrones, Peter Dinklage, Emilia Clarke, Kit Harington, George R.R. Martin
De Niro (guest)Overall, a solid beggining of what should be an amazing season.March 31, 2013 at 10:09PM ESTReply to Comment
Hank ScorpioI really liked Badass-ton Selmy appearing like some kind of Jedi knight to save Dany from the evil warlock spider.
Could have done with less Stannis and Sansa and some Aria.March 31, 2013 at 10:10PM ESTReply to Comment
A PEASANT IN WESTEROSOn Fios, it said "Arya encounters outlaws" in the program description. What gives? Did I miss something...March 31, 2013 at 10:19PM EST
BenSCreepy scarab scorpion from terrifying scorpion mouthed child was creepy. And an awesome re-intro for Selmy.March 31, 2013 at 10:20PM EST
saulocclMy thoughts exactly. Rewatching last season, I noticed that Jaime said last season that there are three knights in Westeros that are better than him. Is Ser Barristan one of them (and The Clegane Brothers the other two), I suppose?March 31, 2013 at 10:20PM EST
sauloccl@A PEASANT IN WESTEROS Arya's scene was meant to be on this episode, but they decided it would be a better fit for the next one.March 31, 2013 at 10:22PM EST
A PEASANT IN WESTEROS@SAULOCCL Ah, that clears that up. I wish they at least had a short snippet of her like last season's premiere.
I thought Jaime was supposed to be THE best knight in Westeros except for Selmy. He fawned over him in season 1 when they were telling old war stories. I can't imagine who the other two are. Maybe Loras is one? Although he was beaten by Brienne... gotta love that look of indignation when he saw she was a woman.March 31, 2013 at 10:26PM EST
mgraboisHad we met Selmy before in the series?April 1, 2013 at 12:24AM EST
JKChicagoAfter Joffrey became King, he and Cersei fired him for being too old and "failing" to protect King Robert. He was not happy about his firing, and despite being vastly outnumbered in the throne room, he still managed to intimidate everyone before leaving in disgust.April 1, 2013 at 12:46AM EST
JohnHe's in several scenes in the first season. In addition to the one mentioned by JKChicago, he has a scene reminiscing with Robert and Jaime about battles. He has another scene reminiscing with Ned, in which Ned said his father told him that Barristan has the best fighter he'd ever seen. And he's in a few other scenes surrounding Robert's death and succession.April 1, 2013 at 7:30AM EST
Mojo CoCoI think the creepy kid was more effective than how the book played it. Damn am I glad to see some Selmy though. I really want to see that man fight.April 1, 2013 at 2:08PM EST
JerodYeah I couldn't disagree with the reviewer more about Selmy's re-entry...I thought it was one of more satisfying scenes of the opening episode.April 1, 2013 at 3:44PM EST
Fuzzy Dunlop@Sauloccl & A peasant in Westeros: Jaime said there were three men in Westeros that MIGHT have a chance to beat him, not that there were three knights better than him. The hubris is strong in this one (and from what we know about him, rightly so). Loras and the Clegane brothers (although Sandor is not a knight) are likely candidates. But since Jaime is/was devoted to Barristan Selmy (he was his former squire) I think he is one of the three. Beric Dondarrion may be another.April 2, 2013 at 11:33AM EST
Stormshadow4lifeSooooooo good to have this show back! Loved everything about Dany's storyline this week. However, if they explained who that little girl was, I missed it.
Tyrion's story was just as strong...and heartbreaking. Couldn't imagine having a father like that.March 31, 2013 at 10:11PM ESTReply to Comment
Zach R.I was curious about that as well. Dany exclaimed "the warlocks" so I assume they are still kind of angry about her burning the House of the Undying down.March 31, 2013 at 10:13PM EST
A PEASANT IN WESTEROSI took the comments "warlocks!" to mean she was an apparition of some kind. Plus that nasty blue/black ink look in her mouth like Warlock Dean Pelton last season.March 31, 2013 at 10:18PM EST
Zach R.Definitely not normal. Either an apparition or an agent of the warlocks. Either way hopefully that's the last of it because they were probably my least enjoyable part of Season 2.March 31, 2013 at 10:21PM EST
al b.Dany says "Warlocks!" implying she is one or she is serving them.
And ditto on Tyrion's scenes!March 31, 2013 at 10:26PM EST
nathI believe the girl was one of the Warlocks, like the kind at the House of the Undying. I think they purposely showed that she had the purple-mouth thing going on.April 2, 2013 at 11:12PM EST
Zach R.Glad to see Barristan Selmy return. His exit from the show in Season 1 where he put Joffrey in his place was great and I imagine there will be no small amount of conflict between him and Ser Jorah.March 31, 2013 at 10:11PM ESTReply to Comment
Ray (guest)"The premiere closed on a bit of an underwhelming note, with the return of Barristan Selmy, who was the captain of Robert's guard"
I dunno, I thought it was cool to see the return of Selmy. If not spoiled by the "previously on" (but I get it to remind alot of viewers), it could've been better.
Barristan was a bad ass in S1 and seemed to play off perfectly of trying to build an army.March 31, 2013 at 10:12PM ESTReply to Comment
bbq_hax0rI agree, I liked seeing his return and had forgotten about the "previously on" spoiler. Tyrion/Tywin was best scene by far, but I liked Dany's at the end.March 31, 2013 at 11:14PM EST
mgraboisI didn't even realize that we saw Selmy in the "previously" bit. I thought he was yet another new character for this season.April 1, 2013 at 12:25AM EST
DezbotI really enjoyed his return, too.April 1, 2013 at 12:30AM EST
TygereyeI especially enjoyed Dany's reaction to him. She could be either overjoyed, or they'll flip it and have her freak out over his association with Robert Baratheon. Can't wait to see what she says to him.April 1, 2013 at 1:34PM EST
Bill (guest)Is Marge out of the question for some reason?March 31, 2013 at 10:13PM ESTReply to Comment
sepinwallI'm not opposed to Marge. What say others?March 31, 2013 at 10:15PM EST
HatfieldI wanna say Margey, but that just devolves into Homer's Barry Manilow riffMarch 31, 2013 at 10:18PM EST
Zach R.Marge, Margie, or Anne Boleyn.March 31, 2013 at 10:20PM EST
saulocclWell, I'm sure she would love any of these options, if preceeded by "The Queen".March 31, 2013 at 10:33PM EST
QbPrincess Di perhaps bc of the way she reaches out to help the poor? Seems like there will be major conflict between her and Cersi (sp?) to come based on the dinner scene.March 31, 2013 at 10:38PM EST
C3j1v6Marg.March 31, 2013 at 10:43PM EST
Adam SI like Midge.March 31, 2013 at 10:53PM EST
bbq_hax0rBort!March 31, 2013 at 11:14PM EST
JPAnne Boleyn. ;)March 31, 2013 at 11:15PM EST
DB CooperFr book reasons, I'd avoid Maggie. There's a "Maggy" in the book with just enough possible overlap to be confusing,March 31, 2013 at 11:19PM EST
hipoI say Margie or Margi.March 31, 2013 at 11:35PM EST
mgraboisHodor!April 1, 2013 at 12:26AM EST
IlyrioAnything is better than Mags, for god's sake. Why not just Marjorie, like how it's normally spelled?April 1, 2013 at 12:32AM EST
MilesJust spell it out. Or get your word processor to autofill it for you.April 1, 2013 at 2:18AM EST
DudemanI don't even post here, but I have to chime in that Marge is way better than Mags.April 1, 2013 at 3:21AM EST
MikeIn that case, call her Large Marge.April 1, 2013 at 8:47AM EST
CaboMargaery would be my strong preference. Or just do what the AV Club is doing and spell it Margery. If it has to be shortened, then Marge.April 1, 2013 at 8:52AM EST
FishMargo.April 1, 2013 at 8:53AM EST
AllysonI think Marge makes the most sense. My grandma was Marjorie and everyone called her Marj. Mags seems like it should be short for Maggie.April 1, 2013 at 9:06AM EST
NickI'd go with Midge, I always find it so funny when Moe calls Marge Midge.April 1, 2013 at 9:26AM EST
DougHow about Madge? It doesn't look like Natalie Dormer had dishpan hands.April 1, 2013 at 11:35AM EST
aamadisAutofill. It's so easy. Come on, it's 2013. It's not that hard. You figure out how to spell it once and be done with it.
And Mags is AWFUL!!! I thought Margo Martindale hade made a surprise appearance that I missed.April 1, 2013 at 12:47PM EST
FodorSugartitsApril 1, 2013 at 5:20PM EST
LJAAnything but Mags. Marge at the very least, but I think you should make a macro that spells the name out correctly. If a newbie came to your blog, they wouldn't necessarily know who you were talking about if you called her Mags. At least with "Dany," there was precedent in that her brother called her that on the show.April 1, 2013 at 6:06PM EST
Mad ProfessahI think Mags is AWFUL. Marge would be great. I agree with LJA, why not use a macro that just spells the names correctly all the time?April 1, 2013 at 7:13PM EST
geoff_roseMarge.April 1, 2013 at 7:16PM EST
nath@BBQ_HAX0R are you talking to me?April 3, 2013 at 12:18AM EST
gladly (guest)The dragon effects plus the shot of the Giant working north of the Wall were really impressive. Really far better than you see on most television shows.March 31, 2013 at 10:16PM ESTReply to Comment
A PEASANT FROM WESTEROS (guest)A) Barristan!!!!! WOO HOO!!! Did the actor know he would be skipping a season?
B) Am I missing something? My cable program guide said "Arya encounters outlaws" in the description, but I don't recall any sighting of her.
C) Petyr knows Catelyn loathes him... so he's perving on Sansa now? $10 says he has no interest in returning her to her family...
D) How does Ros know about Shae? Varys? Is Ros firmly on his payroll now? Ros's comments to Shae indicate she is not completely on Littlefinger's team ("protect her from him").
E) Robb is starting to lose the respect of his men. Is the Young Wolf running out of steam just as the Lannisters are regrouping? Ruh roh...
Based on the discussion from Alan's first review, I've been trying to think of what the ultimate end game of all these dangling threads is. It seems like they won't intersect for a while (which is certainly frustrating for a TV show, but I guess it must work for the books if so many people are fans of them), but when they do, it will be fantastic. So it has to be something unexpected, right?
So my [crackpot] theory...
Hear me out. He lost his kingdom to the Greyjoys. He can't go kick them out because he betrayed Walder Frey and he needs that bridge to go back home. We saw last season that the Stark soldiers aren't exactly knights in shining armor, either. The Starks are "good guys" but not in the traditional sense.
So what's a foreign army to do so far from home, with their enemies regrouping, and a king losing support?
He's going to pillage the land, become ever more vicious (does he think Bran and Rickon are dead still?), do whatever it takes to keep the support of his men as winter comes and their war doesn't end. Baratheon, Tyrell, and Lannister are all behind Joffrey now. I don't know about the crazy lady in the mountains, but who wants to bet that's Petyr's next assignment he mentioned to Sansa (especially after he so deftly delivered the Tyrells). Stark stands alone in rebellion now. The King in the North is now the "bad guy," if you imagine this as a folk tale being told a hundred years from now. Maybe he even kills Joffrey and takes the Iron Throne.
.... and then Danyraes comes back to claim what's hers.
Thoughts? (Please do not comment if you read the books. I don't care how 'careful' you think you are, you're going to spoil shit.)March 31, 2013 at 10:16PM ESTReply to Comment
Hank ScorpioAwesome to see the same actor return for the Selmy role. Annoying to have the role of the Mountain change between s1 and s2, and I believe one of Stark's bannermen as well [the beard guy who was bitten by the direwolf].March 31, 2013 at 11:01PM EST
A PEASANT IN WESTEROSWait, the guy who gave the whole "that's my king!" speech about Robb is the same guy whose son was killed by Jaime Lannister?!? I didn't know the actors were switched out.
If that's true, that makes Cat releasing Jaime even MORE of a kick in the gut, because the guy who is RESPONSIBLE FOR ROBB BECOMING KING was denied his justice!March 31, 2013 at 11:05PM EST
Kingsguard415The guy that was bitten by Grey Wind was the Greatjon Umber. The bearded dude in this episode is a Karstark, the one that made a big deal about Jaime killing his son if I'm not mistaken.March 31, 2013 at 11:06PM EST
Hank ScorpioSorry if there are two dudes with huge white beards in Robb's inner circle, I haven't paid close enough attention to the names [or read the books].
Still, bring back that crazy guy from season 1 with the mangled hand!March 31, 2013 at 11:08PM EST
Okay whew, so not the same character, yeah? I really liked the guy who played Greatjon Umber. He had great screen presence. Is he supposed to have died, or is it just one of those things where they don't want to bring too many characters on screen? I don't recall hearing anything about him since Robb's men proclaimed him King in the North.March 31, 2013 at 11:10PM EST
JPThe guy who played Greatjon shouted a lot and has a more gurgle-y voice. I don't think he was in last season. Karstark guy is balding on top.March 31, 2013 at 11:13PM EST
GuyxI haven't read the books but I keep getting a doom and gloom vibe from Rob ever since he met the healing chick. The "previously on" tag before the episode reminded us that Robb broke a vow and that shot tonight of his men looking down on him from above doesn't bode well. I'm a symbolism and foreshadowing junkie and I've noticed that bad things tend to happen to people who take "oaths" or vows on this show. I thought something bad was going to happen to Robb last season since they had him winning victories over the lannisters. The first season Taught me to be wary of anyone who seems to be getting ahead in this world. Eventually something bad will happen. I hope I'm wrong I love Robb Stark as a character and hope we get to see him kick some ass in battle soonMarch 31, 2013 at 11:20PM EST
That reminds me, one of the first things Talisa says to Robb is "I'm not a spy." I didn't think anything of it then, but considering that Robb marrying her has fractured an alliance and has indirectly caused resentment from his men (he paid so much attention to her that Cat had the chance to release Jaime), another part of my crackpot theory is that Talisa is a honeypot scheme by Littlefinger or Varys. We already know Varys has friends across the sea (that dude who brokered Dany's marriage), so he could easily have gotten a hold of Talisa and sent her to Robb's camp with careful instructions.March 31, 2013 at 11:26PM EST
Hank ScorpioWait, that guy was Illyrio of Pentos, right? Redemption!March 31, 2013 at 11:44PM EST
rugman11If nothing else, Game of Thrones is always more than capable of keeping me interested the entire time and always wanting more at the end. Not every hour-long show can do that.
As for the episode, I thought it was a really good start. I am still troubling to care about Stannis and Jon Snow, but the power shift in King's Landing has really made me care about Sansa and Shae (and also Tyrion but I already cared about him because of Dinklage's performance).
Also, am I right that Tywin just murdered all the prisoners at Harrenhal when he left? Or did something else happen at the end of last season that I'm not remembering?March 31, 2013 at 10:17PM ESTReply to Comment
Hank ScorpioIsn't it amazing how fast the hour goes by?March 31, 2013 at 10:46PM EST
bbq_hax0rYea I was confused about what happened at Harrenhal... did the Mountain continue his rampaging or something else?March 31, 2013 at 11:18PM EST
Matt_HBased on the comments Robb's men made as they were approaching, I think they knew Tywin had left, but were expecting The Mountain to still be there. So I'm guessing the Mountain knew the Starks were coming and decided to split.April 1, 2013 at 9:12AM EST
JP (guest)I was confused by the devastation at Harrenhall. Do we know what happened there? I believe the last we saw was that Tywin rode out of it and Arya escaped from it, but I don't remember any northmen occupying it.March 31, 2013 at 10:22PM ESTReply to Comment
synnermanTywin left the Mountain (the Hound's brother) in charge when he departed for King's Landing.March 31, 2013 at 10:24PM EST
BillI'm guessing the Mountain executed all of the prisoners before leaving.March 31, 2013 at 10:26PM EST
leoffFrom what I gather, Tywin left the Mountain in charge of Harrenhall. He slaughtered the northern prisioners when he fled.March 31, 2013 at 10:29PM EST
A PEASANT IN WESTEROSMy first thought was prisoners, too, but why did he kill that Maester (or try to kill, at least)? And why were the prisoners wearing armor? Plus it sounded like there was a high-level lord or knight among the dead, Catelyn's father's bannerman. I didn't catch the name, but it sounded similar to Lannister. He was wearing a blue cloak.March 31, 2013 at 10:32PM EST
leoffHaven't you heard? The Mountain is pure evil. The prisioners were wearing uniforms, not armor. The Mallister guy is from a family who serves the Tullys, hence Cat knowing the man.March 31, 2013 at 10:45PM EST
prettokLast we saw of Harrenhall, Jaqen Hgar killed a bunch of guards and a couple of prisoners escaped. I can see the Mountain losing his shit and scorching the earth with dead bodies from both sides.March 31, 2013 at 11:51PM EST
@AzaAdamI thought they were the prisoners from Season 1 when Robb Stark, King of the North, pulled the switch a roo on the Lannisters. He made Tywin think his full force was gonna attack him when in reality they went after the Kingslayer on the River. Weren't they the Northern men from that battle.March 31, 2013 at 11:52PM EST
IshiWishi (guest)Alan,
Maybe you could just use "find and replace?" Mags sounds gross.
Love the reviews! (You're slightly inconsistent regarding spoiler rules when you've read the source material but I guess you can't forget what you know...)March 31, 2013 at 10:23PM ESTReply to Comment
Barney (guest)Alan, the key to Davos' devotion to Stannis is the backstory (which was mentioned last season) . He saved Stannis by smuggling onions to Storms End during the war that put Robert on the throne. Stannis rewarded him by making him a knight and giving his family name legitimacy (after cutting off his finger tips as punishment for being a smuggler). So Davos' is extremely grateful for the opportunity Stannis gave to his sons in particular.March 31, 2013 at 10:26PM ESTReply to Comment
sepinwallYes, they've explained it. But it's a case of telling and not showing, unfortunately. We've heard about the pre-Melisandre Stannis, but the man we've seen from frame one is a rigid lunatic. And in a show like this, actions in the present make a much bigger impression than exposition about the past. We're supposed to find Davos sympathetic, and he is to a degree because the actor is so good, but overall he comes across as a fool devoted to a madman.March 31, 2013 at 10:31PM EST
A PEASANT IN WESTEROSI can't figure out if Stannis is "good" or "bad." On one hand, he seems like the definition of Lawful Good ("SIR Jaime Lannister... whatever else he was, he was a knight"), but he keeps a crazy witch who births demons and burns prisoners alive in his retinue. I imagine he wouldn't have any interest in the throne if he didn't know he was the rightful heir to Robert.March 31, 2013 at 10:34PM EST
BarneyAll I will say is that the questions you are both having are not unique to the tv series. Questionable loyalties and motivations are part of why this is such a great series. I think it's been shown that Davos believes in Stannis completely, but that he's convinced that Melisandre has him bewitched.March 31, 2013 at 10:52PM EST
HodorI don't think stannis comes off as a madman. He has the rightful claim to the throne, and say what you will about the red woman but she gets things done (e.g. Renly).March 31, 2013 at 10:59PM EST
That was my thought as well, that Stannis is essentially a "good" guy but is under some kind of spell or influence. He goes from choking Melisandre nearly to death to watching a fire with her and believing in her promises again.
Clearly she's not a charlatan, as you'd expect in a non-fantasy version of this story. So what's her endgame? Convert Westeros to her religion? Put a demon king on the throne? (Don't answer if you know, I'm looking for speculation.)
Personally, I can't see a role for Stannis in the series endgame. Dany and Jon are definitely involved, or why else would we be following their stories? We've invested a lot in the story of the Starks, so they must play a role. But I feel like Stannis will be a means to a story end.
He was the reason the Lannisters couldn't really regroup against Robb, because all season they were waiting for his invasion of King's Landing. That's failed, but he's still in the game. I can't figure out why. Melisandre must be a future Big Bad, and Stannis continues to be the means to getting HER story going.March 31, 2013 at 11:02PM EST
HISLOCALThe one thing is that Stannis IS the rightful king, and he's totally devoted to doing what's right (see: the "Stannis the Lobster" speech from S1), so I think they've done a pretty good job of showing why he's obsessed w/ the throne.March 31, 2013 at 11:04PM EST
Greg Grant@A PEASANT IN WESTEROS. I don't think Robert is a bad guy, but he is a confused man and a hard man, which is all kinds of bad. You can be confused, as long as you are subject to change. And you can be the most stubborn jagoff on the planet, if your course is set. Because Stannis is both stubborn and confused, he's a mess. Add the religious zealot thing to the mix, and he's an even bigger mess.
Without the Fire Religion thing, he'd be a curious King. Tough, but fair. With the Fire Religion, he's a bad choice, but compared to the other choices - he comes off well, in my opinion.
We have Robb Stark, who is a military tactician, but has no real program for anything other than, "Well, my daddy would have done it like this... I think." And has no understanding of diplomacy beyond the "I gave mah word." And his goal is to splinter the Kingdom, so there is that. His plan is not to take the Iron Throne, which would leave it open to chaos and the non-North territories would be up for grabs.
We have the chaotic evil nutjob of the Krakens, who talks like Tywin Lannister, but does not have a quarter of Tywin's brain. And who is already a loser of a previous rebellion.
We have Dany, who wants to lead an invasion of her native land with a foreign barbarian army to pillage her own people to restore herself to the throne for no other reason than of who her mommy and daddy were. Oh, and we are also told she has a kind heart, which is great when her dragons burn sht down to the ground, and barbarian savages rape and loot the towns and villages of her enemies.
There is Joffrey. 'Nuff said.
Arrayed against the other Kings of the Kingdoms, Stannis comes off as a reasonable choice, until you remember he's a thrall of a woman who wants to start a Holy War. There is that.
I am not sure what kind of king he would be, other than a religious fanatic. Because nowhere so far has he shown himself to do good or bad at dealing with commoners who are not soldiers. He'd be fair to people, I thiMarch 31, 2013 at 11:06PM EST
sauloccl@SEPINWALL Why do you think Stannis a lunatic, Alan? Why shouldn't he listen to Melisandre? After what we saw last year, there are no doubts about the extend of her power. We know that she is able to view the future in the flames but that these visions are not too clear, which means that some parts may be wrong - what is right and what is wrong, only George R. R. Martin knows... but I still think the audience should pay more attention to what she says.March 31, 2013 at 11:07PM EST
DB CooperStanis is utterly tiresome.March 31, 2013 at 11:21PM EST
bbq_hax0rI'm kind of a fan of Stannis. I think he is just a character that is nuanced that it is difficult to reveal with such limited time. I couldn't have been the only one impressed with him last season (leading from the front, storming the beach, disciplined) and was pulling for him at Blackwater.
The religion thing is kind of sketchy, but, she did birth him a smoke son who killed his brother.March 31, 2013 at 11:24PM EST
saulocclJust to be clear, I'm 100 percent speculating here. No spoilers from the books:
I agree with @A PEASANT IN WESTEROS. We all think of Stannis as the main character of that particular arc because he's a contender to the Iron Throne, but... What if Melisandre is the main character? There are "The Seven", "The Old Gods", Melisandre's "Lord of Light", even a "Drowned God"... and the apocalypse is coming alongside the winter in the form of White Walkers. I find difficult to believe that religions won't become part of the war soon.March 31, 2013 at 11:34PM EST
abby536Stannis is both loathsome and dull. That's an unfortunate combination. No amount of screen time is small enough to match my interest in him. I guess I'd enjoy seeing someone quickly kill him?
There are plenty of annoying or unpleasant characters on the show (Tywin, Catelyn, Snow, Theon and his entire family come to mind), there are some magnificent bastards (Jaime, Littlefinger, Cersei)and there are the genuinely disturbing (Joffrey, Dany's nasty brother). Stannis is none of those. He's just an energy sinkhole.April 1, 2013 at 2:25AM EST
JohnI like Stannis, and I think Alan's characterization of him as a "madman" is just not supported by the evidence. Last season, he was shown to be fairly pragmatic. Not the most likable guy in the world, but certainly far more so than, say, Joffrey. As he's been introduced this season, he didn't really strike me as crazy. He seemed more broken than anything else, given what happened at the Battle of the Blackwater, and I think that's why he's allowed Melisandre to basically have free reign. Given that she's essentially been right about everything (or at least had an excuse when she was wrong--specifically about being left behind for the battle), it's understandable.April 1, 2013 at 7:43AM EST
LJAI agreed with Abby536 about Stannis until the Blackwater episode when his badassery enabled me to find the character interesting. Unfortunately, he's looking like a fanatic again. His scene last night was indeed an energy suck.April 1, 2013 at 1:03PM EST
velocityknownStannis' shading in the show has been somewhat...lacking. For example, I saw the second season and then read the second book and completely forgotten the backstory of the Stannis/Davos relationship. One of the problems with the second season, they never really let us dwell on any new relationships, everything moved a little too quickly.April 3, 2013 at 10:10AM EST
weknownothing@HISLOCAL - What I don't understand is why Stannis believes he has the "rightful claim to the throne." If he takes the position that such a "claim" exists (I for one agreed with Renly/Loras... and basically everyone else... that no such claim exists) His own brother (Robert) was the Usurper, and Dany is still alive. Does Stannis not know Dany is still alive? Has word of the dragons not yet reached Westeros? I can't remember. While I agree the show has framed Stannis as a stickler for doing the right thing... does that mean once he realizes Dany has the "right claim" that he'll simply walk away? His storyline worries me because it seems as if it could have a very anti-climatic resolution. If he truly wants to follow the "rightful claim" to the throne philosophy, he should step aside for Dany. Or even help her.April 3, 2013 at 12:20PM EST
sauloccl@weknownothing Stannis helped to destroy the Targaryens. I believe his opinion about Dany is exactly the same of his brother, the late King Robert.April 3, 2013 at 12:46PM EST
WEKNOWNOTHING@SAULOCCL oh, right, good point.April 3, 2013 at 12:56PM EST
DB Cooper@weknownothing: Stannis's claim would be by Right of Succession to Robert's claim. Robert's would be by Right of Conquest. Assuming Westerosi law tracked a Wikipedia summary of pre-WWII international law.April 3, 2013 at 1:20PM EST
SareetaLoved it. I like how they updated the intro map to show a burnt Winterfell in addition to the new location, Astapor. My favorite scenes were between Tywin and Tyrion (you could just feel the hatred Tywin has for Tyrion, and how he only begrudgingly cares for his son's wellbeing because they share a last name), Margaery and Cersei (I'm guessing Cersei wishes Sansa was still queen-to-be instead of the stronger, more manipulative Margaery) and Dany/Jorah with the dragons and getting introduced to the unsullied. Loved Barristan's returns as well.
They could've pushed the Robb scene until next week, but no big deal.March 31, 2013 at 10:28PM ESTReply to Comment
jamie (guest)Despite Alan's thoughts on the scene closing the episode, I think it's awesome that Barristan Selmy is finally back in the picture. I had the feeling he'd play a part considering how much everyone "big-upped" him whenever they had the chance.
That gives me hope that somehow Aria's direwolf will find it's way back too.March 31, 2013 at 10:31PM ESTReply to Comment
nobozo (guest)Khaleesi's necklace is fangs? claws? of what critter?March 31, 2013 at 10:41PM ESTReply to Comment
LJAI freaking LOVED Ser Barristan's return, I've been waiting for it since he threw it in front of Joffrey at the end of S1. I thought ending the episode with him was awesome!
I also loved Bronn in the whorehouse, but then, I love Bronn.
So happy this show is back on!March 31, 2013 at 10:41PM ESTReply to Comment
Build A Better Fan (guest)""Valar Dohaeris" is particularly full, so much so that Benioff and Weiss said earlier this week that they had to move several characters (Arya and Bran, notably) out of the premiere entirely just to let it breathe."
That was a good choice. The episode's noticeably longer scenes and connecting scenes to others in the same location made for a much better experience than if they'd, say, kept jumping back north of the Wall into the second half of the episode. If they keep that up, the episodes will hold together much better.March 31, 2013 at 10:42PM ESTReply to Comment
Greg GrantI liked it.
I liked Mags/Marge/Not Boylen doing the People's Queen gimmick in Flea Bottom and raising her standing with the populace. It showed that for all their money and smarts, Lannisters sometimes truly do not get how to rule by anything other than fear and coin. Not just not bother to learn how to do it, but simply not even see it as any sort of option. Joffrey and Cersei fear them. Tyrion wants to use them. And Tywin is vaguely aware they exist and should be manipulated when it suits him.
Speaking off... Old Man Lannister was awesome. Tearing Tyrion to pieces, playing down how much respect he aught to get (while acknowledging his role in the battle), and just being mega-uber-dick in general.
The Harrenhall thing confused me for a moment, because I did not remember all the Northern prisoners still being there. I thought they were all either slaughtered/tortured to death, or were used as slaves for other projects like mining and etc. So the Mountain killed them all, rather than take them with him as a work-force. Took me a moment to put that together. Also, I am guessing the pale eyed blondish guy with Robb's forces is not the same guy whose sigil is the flaying man, but the two guys kinda look the same, so for a moment I was not sure what he was doing there, as I thought he was sent off further North.
I am not a Dany fan. Last season her "Where are my dragons!" routine wore thin, but I am prepared to keep an open mind, although I have seen nothing in her as to why all these men and people wish to bow before her and have her lead them into anything.
How Alan feels about the Davos-Stannis relationship is how I feel about All The Men Around Dany-Dany relationships.
Can't wait for Arya to show up and do her thing.March 31, 2013 at 10:46PM ESTReply to Comment
bbq_hax0rTywin/Tyrion was best scene in the episode.
Dany annoyed me last season, but after power watching the season the past couple weeks (seeing them in quicker succession) I was not as annoyed with her as I originally was during some of my comments from last season reviews. I viewed Dany as learning and becoming more assertive. Her final episode, where she slays the warlocks, was incredible. I think she was supposed to be annoying/whiny/entitled, and Qarth taught her a valuable lesson,March 31, 2013 at 11:28PM EST
Jared KThe pale-eyed man who was consulting with Robb outside the gates of Harrenhal and later conversing with Karstark is the same guy we met last year with the flayed man as his sigil. His name is Roose Bolton, Lord of the Dreadfort (if you look closely, you can see that he's got the same flayed man design on his armor). Robb never sent him North last year - Bolton offered to send his own bastard son (whom we have not yet met in the show) to retake Winterfell from the Greyjoys.
He did look a little different from last year, I grant you (I noticed it too) but I think that's just a matter of the actor being a year older and carrying himself slightly differently. It's the same guy.March 31, 2013 at 11:46PM EST
Hank ScorpioIs Flea Bottom the best name for a bad neighborhood since Crackton in The Simpsons?
Can't imagine property values will ever really improve in Flea Bottom, unless Mosquitoe's Rectum is the other neighborhood.March 31, 2013 at 11:49PM EST
bbq_hax0rSounds like a job for Hank Scorpio... buy some buildings and bring in trendy art galleries and baristas and the hipsters will move in and take care of everything. Trust me, I live in the Bowery District.
As for Roose Bolton, it appeared they altered his costume this season. His sigil last season was imprinted on leather, this year it was a medal pin of sorts.March 31, 2013 at 11:59PM EST
WEKNOWNOTHING@GREG GRANT - Oh I disagree with not seeing anything from Dany that would justify people bowing/following her. She walked into a roaring fire and "birthed" three dragons! That's not enough to earn people's loyalty in their world? One of the great things about this show is that their universe is not perpetually magical, but rather historical or perhaps mythical. I think the dragons were historical (Dany's ancestors, correct?) but it seems as if the White Walkers are more myth (not to the viewers, obviously)... anyway, point being is that Dany is now living proof, or at least a bridge, to the magical powers that has been missing from their world for hundreds or thousands of years. Maybe she's young (whiny, etc) but 3 dragons! C'mon, that should grant her time to mature into a leader while also attracting followers.April 3, 2013 at 12:34PM EST
Hank ScorpioQuick thoughts after letting episode sink in a bit more:
-Where is Varys? There should be a rule that Littlefinger can appear no more often than the Spider.
-That was some great translation going on in the Unsullied negotiations. I'm wondering if that will be figured out by Selmy or someone else under Dany's control at some point.
-One frozen decapitated head, but no beheadings and one de-nippling? Did I miss something?
-Sam, you didn't send the ravens? That was your only job!March 31, 2013 at 10:53PM ESTReply to Comment
Tommy (guest)My favorite "under the radar" moment: Littlefinger sharing with Sansa that he has not only seen her Mother, but also her sister. So that means he DID recognize Ariya when she was serving at Tywin's side. The guy may be sleazy, but he knows how to play the game with the best of them.March 31, 2013 at 10:59PM ESTReply to Comment
Hank ScorpioYes! That was the only redeeming moment of that whole scene.March 31, 2013 at 11:19PM EST
DB CooperOr he was bluffing.March 31, 2013 at 11:23PM EST
bbq_hax0rI thought it meant he recognized her aswell, maybe he didn't tell anyone because he ASSUMED since she was working for Tywin he knew and therefore she was accounted for by the Lannisters.March 31, 2013 at 11:30PM EST
JohnThat's not what Littlefinger said. He told Sansa that he had recently seen her mother, and that Catelyn was eager to see both Sansa and Arya again. Sansa took that as an indication that Arya was still alive, but Littlefinger didn't actually acknowledge that (he just kind of looked away and didn't say anything). And I can't imagine he would have recognized Arya as Tywin's cup bearer and not said anything. Sorry.April 1, 2013 at 7:51AM EST
neilI do think that he noticed it was Arya at Harrenhall. He got this little grin on his face and even brought her up, or sansa and catelyn, in that scene. I think he is 100% sure it was her.April 1, 2013 at 12:28PM EST
walker blacki thought he did recognize arya but perhaps for her safety saw no use in informing tywin. though his cagey non response to sansa left that in doubt for the moment.April 1, 2013 at 12:50PM EST
DB CooperHere's why I think he didn't recognize her: Because he didn't do anything about it. While Tywin certainly had a little affection for her, "Lord Lannister's Cup Bearer" is hardly the type of position likely to ensure safety and security.
Arya Stark is one of the most valuable assets in Westeros, and there's zero evidence that Littlefinger took action to secure, let alone obtain that asset. Maybe he wouldn't have told Tywin, but he'd have done *something*.
For all he knows, Ayra was killed, sold, or escaped Harrenhall, ten minutes after he left.
That's why I don't think he recognized her. The mention to Sansa was to see if the "terrible liar" knew anything more than she seemed.April 1, 2013 at 1:32PM EST
dilsMaybe he didn't do anything when he recognized Arya, because it would put Sansa in jeopardy? Littlefinger seems to really like Sansa, and he probably thinks Sansa would fare much better in King's Landing without her sister.
So if Joffrey is being cruel to the point of murdering Sansa, Cersei would at least try to stop it. If they got Arya, ehh.. they got a spare Stark sister.
My theory.April 1, 2013 at 11:36PM EST
Steve (guest)Any ideas as to how Daenerys & Co. would be able to afford any soldiers, let alone 8,000 elite ones? I happened to watch the finale right before this episode (HBO2 had a marathon of S2 all day), and when they were scavenging stuff from Xaro's house (after finding his vault empty), Daenerys asked if it would be enough to buy a ship, and Jorah answered "a small one". Was he just being sarcastic and it was actually enough to buy a ship with a lot left over, or did they somehow come into more money?March 31, 2013 at 11:03PM ESTReply to Comment
Greg GrantYeah, that I do not get. Either she somehow found new access to some sort of funds, or she was just asking how much of this army is possible in case she comes into money.March 31, 2013 at 11:09PM EST
A PEASANT IN WESTEROSI didn't even consider this point until now. Given all the talk about her being anti-slave and whatnot, my bet is on anti-slave rebellion. Jorah's dialogue seemed to imply that Dany needs to prove herself to become Queen of Westeros. This could be like her "practice rebellion" before starting her real one in Westeros. Do I smell a Spartacus-inspired storyline for Dany? Hopefully not with the same ending, of course.March 31, 2013 at 11:14PM EST
Hank ScorpioBarristan Selmy's Jedi mind trick will lower the price significantly.
Hopefully Dany starts being courted by older and older knights, until she finally agrees to marry Old Man Mormont and live peacefully in Castle Black with dragons to protect the wall.March 31, 2013 at 11:15PM EST
DB CooperA girl with dragons never pays full price.March 31, 2013 at 11:23PM EST
GuyXI don't think she intends to pay anything, she hasn't brought out her dragons yet. Judging by the trailer HBO released she will burn this city to get what she wants(hence Jorah saying she needs to earn the respect of the khaleasar)March 31, 2013 at 11:30PM EST
SteveI avoided trailers in order to not have anything spoiled, but that was sort of my suspicion. Although I don't exactly see how she could actually take the soldiers themselves by force, unless it is some sort of rebellion situation as mentioned above.March 31, 2013 at 11:44PM EST
DB CooperNotice that the translator girl was a slave too. She might be inclined to screw her master.March 31, 2013 at 11:47PM EST
DB CooperAs in, betray.March 31, 2013 at 11:48PM EST
AndreAt the end of last season, Dany took all of the dude from quarths belongings and that is how she got money for the shipApril 1, 2013 at 2:35AM EST
guestPerhaps she can acquire them on contingency? A promise to the slave trader of title/lands/riches once she's taken the army and dragons and claimed the throne?April 1, 2013 at 1:16PM EST
GUESTI think the slavers would be happy with a dragon in exchange for some soldiers, they can always train more, right?April 2, 2013 at 2:05AM EST
bbq_hax0rI imagine a slaver would be just as unlikely to accept a promise than would the merchants of Qarth. And a dragon would be worth a lot more than "some soldier," not that she would trade them for anything anyways. If that were even an option she would have considered it last year when she was withering in the Garden of Bones.April 2, 2013 at 12:44PM EST
Original Guest AboveDouble agent second "guest" here is not me.
I do not intend to imply she would ever trade her dragons for anything. But if she were to tell the slaver "you can have the riches of the first town we sack" then maybe. Although she's much too idealistic for that.April 2, 2013 at 7:42PM EST
NorthRemembersReply to comment...April 7, 2013 at 7:03AM EST
NorthRemembersI assumed that there's no credit crunch here, that she can buy now and pay later and in any case slaves are cheap, ships are expensive. I don't think she'd be willing to trade a dragon though.April 7, 2013 at 7:05AM EST
bbq_hax0rAnyone else think that Jorah and Dany knew what the slaver was saying?March 31, 2013 at 11:12PM ESTReply to Comment
Greg GrantI was waiting for that to be the punchline to the conversation. But it never came. Dany might not speak it, but given that Jorah has been around the block, he pro'lly does.March 31, 2013 at 11:13PM EST
saulocclI was laughing during the entire scene thinking about that. She understood everything he said, right? She's already a polyglot by now, I'm afraid...March 31, 2013 at 11:45PM EST
wizard64 (guest)The scenes with with Daenerys are the ones most often that involve fantasy-type situations: dragons, spider robots, eunuchs that feel no pain. Of course in the north there are many weird creatures as we know. Actually one of the best things about this series is how much metaphysical mystery and magic always lurks on the edgesMarch 31, 2013 at 11:12PM ESTReply to Comment
Hank ScorpioWas that thing a robot? Those damn warlocks not only invented electricity, but built mechanical insects to crush their enemies? Awesome! I smell a transformers crossover episode soonMarch 31, 2013 at 11:18PM EST
evolution1085Pretty sure that wasn't a "spider robot", in a land with dragons, not super out of the realm of possibility to go with "exotic scorpion thingy" as a means of assassinationMarch 31, 2013 at 11:39PM EST
prettokSpider robot isn't out of the realm of possibility in fantasy either. (You don't have to "invent" electricity. Just walk across a rug wearing wooly socks and touch a doorknob. Presto!...electricity!)April 1, 2013 at 12:07AM EST
Dr. DunkensteinI don't know. I actually think that one of the show's weaker aspects, as someone who's trying to get acclimated to the world it takes place in, is the whole "Mystery thing X exists" and can be sprung at any moment to change up the game. Renly has an army of 100,000 and looks to be the most powerful of the various kings? Not if smoke baby has it's say!
Which isn't to say that the fantasy elements aren't good, just that they seem a little out of nowhere at times.April 1, 2013 at 7:54AM EST
DB CooperThe good thing is that the characters are as blindsided and bewildered as the audience is.
Martin cleverly created a world where magic was, for all intents and purposes, dead. So he can introduce wights, dragons, giants, and smoke babies, yet not require a baseline level of acceptance for Tolkien-style fantasy. Also, he can integrate the backstory more naturally, as the characters ask the same "WTF?!" questions we do.April 1, 2013 at 1:36PM EST
Dr. DunkensteinWell, yes and no. I mean, Dragons seem to be something that was pretty common knowledge and widely understood all throughout season one, they were just extinct. So it's a little like if someone today all of a sudden had a bunch of dinosaurs. Messed up, sure, but I'd at least understand things.
Smoke monsters and giants though, those were out of nowhere.April 1, 2013 at 2:27PM EST
SAMSLAYERReply to comment...April 2, 2013 at 5:48AM EST
SAMSLAYERThat insect like thing is called a Manticore. Its a living being and it's bite is supposed to be extremely poisonous.April 2, 2013 at 5:57AM EST
mikeIt was a manticore.April 2, 2013 at 6:19AM EST
A (guest)Marge?March 31, 2013 at 11:41PM ESTReply to Comment
a (guest)Does Marge work?March 31, 2013 at 11:42PM ESTReply to Comment
@AzaAdam (guest)I think one thing that will help with the confusion is to pay attention during the "Previously On" before each episode. The producers do a good job of preparing you for who is gonna be on the on deck episode by the scenes they choose to include. I knew Ser Barristan was gonna show up cause he was highlighted in the "Previously On"March 31, 2013 at 11:44PM ESTReply to Comment
JPThe Warlocks, too.April 1, 2013 at 12:06AM EST
mgraboisWhat they really need is a caption reminding us of who the minor characters are that they're showing us.April 1, 2013 at 12:35AM EST
HISLOCALWe need a Pop-Up Video version of the show!!April 1, 2013 at 9:03AM EST
NorthRemembersThere's a wiki just for the TV series...
http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/April 7, 2013 at 7:08AM EST
evolution1085Martin as a whole has built a world where showing the fallings of any kind of dogmatic attachment to any one ideal pretty much makes you a terrible choice for a ruler. The Starks are beholden to honor, which cost Ned his head and Robb a future (hinted at) meeting with a cross Walder Frey. The Baratheons are/were too committed to believing their own self righteous ends justified the means, so Robert never saw the betrayal of his wife coming, and Stannis so rigidly believes in the rule of law and Melissandre's premonitions that all the dumb moves he makes are fine because the throne is his by divine and legal right (Joffrey is pure evil, Cersei is both spolied AND power hungry). Daenrys, Tyrion, and Tywin (and to a lesser extent Alan's favorite Jon Snow) seem the most amenable to adapting as the situation requires, so when the White Walkers hit the fan, I'd put my money on them to make it out in one piece.March 31, 2013 at 11:49PM ESTReply to Comment
Fin Alyn (guest)I thought the episode was all right. In the pantheon of GoT shows, it was middling, which I guess as a piece moving and character orientated episode, it would be. My only concern is that they already had to cut out two characters from this premiere episode. From what I understand, the books become even more spread out, and I'm not sure how well I'll enjoy a show that starts having multiple episodes without the characters I enjoy the most. If it eliminates Sansa though, I'm all for it.April 1, 2013 at 12:24AM ESTReply to Comment
mgrabois"You had one job, Sam. ONE JOB!"April 1, 2013 at 12:36AM ESTReply to Comment
GarySFAbsolutely beautiful shot as Dany is arriving in Astapor. Although there was a lot of CG, it rivaled anything I've seen on Breaking Bad.April 1, 2013 at 12:58AM ESTReply to Comment


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We Are The Monsters
Dance performance for ages 4 to 9
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No two people – or monsters – are exactly the same.
Scratchy, shimmering creatures and strange mini-monsters come out of a cardboard world. They play together, their arms and legs moving in impossible ways.
We Are the Monsters is a dance performance for ages four to nine. Join a fantastical journey into a weird and wonderful world.
'There's a lot of personality, mischief and humour under the fur fabric' **** (The Herald)
'Don't let any children in your life miss this astonishing 35 minutes of undiluted madness!' **** (EdinburghGuide.com)
Choreography – Colette Sadler
Set, Lighting and Costume Design – Philine Rinnert
Music – Brendan Dougherty
Performers – Maxwell McCarthy, Stuart Meyers, Keir Patrick and Leah Marojevic
'Colette Sadler is one of the UK's leading independent choreographers, whose work brings a sophisticated continental aesthetic to performances for all. Southbank Centre is very pleased to be working with Colette and Stammer Productions to present We Are The Monsters' (Rupert Thomson, Senior Dance and Performance Programmer at Southbank Centre)
Each 11am performance is followed by a 45-minute workshop that uses movement, music, images and props to explore the world of the monsters. Spaces are limited to 20 tickets per workshop.
Saturday 12 December, 11am & 2pm
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Ralph Lauren Craig, 88, of Maxwell, formerly of Gothenburg, passed away Saturday, May 21, 2011, at Hilltop Estates in Gothenburg.
Services were conducted at the First United Methodist Church on Tuesday, May 24, with the Rev. Janie Freeman officiating. Internment took place at the Gothenburg Cemetery.
Craig was preceded in death by: an infant son; a brother, Lester; three sisters-in-law—Dorothy Craig, Marilyn Ristine and Yvonne McClellen; two brothers-in-law—Burt Ristine and Don McClellen.
Survivors include: his wife, Doris Craig of Maxwell; his brother-in-law, Mike (Marian) Larson of Gothenburg; numerous nieces and nephews.
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How Everton FC perform on Facebook [Infographic]
Recently I interviewed Everton's digital manager Scott McLeod about the clubs approach to social media. During this time the club have worked closely with digital agency Rippleffect and have been helping develop the digital experience for the clubs fans. Recently Everton, and a growing number of others, have started using a new Facebook analytics platform called Locowise, which is well worth taking a look at (I've just started testing it out).
Now Rippleffect and Locowise have put together a study into the club's activity on the 1bn+ user platform – of which Everton has over 300k fans. It's an interesting look into how the club's content is performing; where they have succeeded and where there is room for improvement. For example, brands and clubs should take notice that in terms of tone of voice, having a page which shows personality is a winner. The interactions around these posts show an increase of 95%!
It's also highlights that links to a video including the word 'free' leads to an average 20% reduction in engagement. So who says fans are always after something for nothing?! There are plenty more nuggets like this to be found.
The analytics platform itself is really interesting. The results are in-depth and also easy to digest, made very much with the non-data nerd in mind. Am sure many of you have been there when needing to show others (management) and the charts/data is difficult to read and share. Here it is simplified so you can just copy or screen shot the image and place into your presentation. Useful.
Check out the infographic below for some more stats on Everton FC and their use of Facebook. How do you think they are doing?
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MOSCOW — Running on a taped and tender right foot, Usain Bolt coasted into the 200-meter final and set himself up for a second gold medal at the world championships.
With only two assured qualification spots from his heat, the 100-meter champion switched into a higher gear at the end of Friday's race when Anaso Jobodwana unexpectedly appeared on his left shoulder.
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Would you choose to try and protect your players – as well as yourself and your program – or would you immediately inform your athletic director and compliance office knowing full well that by doing so you expose those players and that federal investigation to unwanted (and perhaps illegal) publicity?
I know the easy (and somewhat lazy) answer. In a nuanced world filled with shades of gray, maybe you would have informed Gene Smith and the compliance office and maybe you wouldn't have. Maybe, just maybe, you would have met with the players in question and held an investigation of your own. Maybe the answers you received were satisfactory and maybe they weren't. Maybe you would have meted out some form of punishment of your own at that time. Maybe you wouldn't have.
We now know Tressel's decision on how he thought best to handle the situation. We also know that decision will forever provide a blemish on his impressive coaching résumé. But did it really have to turn out this way?
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"Ya know how in the late '70s there was a massive backlash to disco music? Well I think it's about time to start the backlash against the hipster scene. 2011-It's coming, who's with me?"
"Hipster backlash and music in general is so 2007. Creative movement is the new music." —Jeff
"…Stoked that these bands win this recognition—not because I like them, but because it must be exciting. At the end of the day, though, shit doesn't matter. There are bands that will never make this list that may go on to do way better things than any of these bands. Vice versa as well, I recognize, but looking at the ballot points you can't help but wonder a few things…booking agencies listing the bands that they represent? Maybe not entirely, but connections and image reign supreme. Which is great because when bands that have no connections, no friends, only passion, actually do break through, it will be because they've been doing something substantial that is worth listening to. Just listened to all of these bands, and for the most part they are all emulating something that has been done before. It is easy to like what carries a similarity. The test of time will always outweigh scene cred, which, unfortunately, if you put research into this study, you'll realize that this is what a good amount of this process is based on. Until then, keep chooglin. Just my opinion, feel free to argue.…" —Steven
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I tried to install the skype app for windows 8 on my son's user, but it won't install. I get an error message, saying the app will not install, error code 0x800700b7.
A few days ago I downloaded the skype app on my own account, and encountered no problems.
Any idea what is wrong?
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Try this FixIT
Then, try disabling the Windows Update service.
Press Win + R
Type services.msc /s
Look for Windows Update service and Double click on it and in the Startup type box select Disabled. Click Apply and OK.
Go to the Windows folder and rename the "SoftwareDistribution" folder to "OldSoftwareDistribution"
Now try enabling the Windows Update service in Windows services.
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I have the same problem with my wife's account. Microsoft or Skype need to fix this.
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i tried this fix but am unable to rename the folder as it says it is in use. i've tried using task mrg to shut everything off and it still says in use. I can't seem to complete the fix without figuring out where or why the folder is in use. thanks.
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Have you tried to disabling the Windows update service?
temporary disable your antivirus software too.
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I use the following tool to figure out who is locking the softwaredistribution folder (svchost.exe in my case)
then i kill this process in the task manager and then i am able to rename the folder.
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The message said error 0x800700b7
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Do you have any security software installed on the computer?
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The way the rights are held now, this would be very plausible and a very good business move for each console. It would be great if Microsoft and Nintendo could agree to this -- though, I wouldn't hold my breath.
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The Green Bay Packers defeated the Washington Redskins 35-18 in an NFC playoff game on Sunday at FedEx Field in Landover, Md. Here are five things to know about the game:
Packers protect Aaron Rodgers
In Green Bay's final two regular-season games, quarterback Aaron Rodgers got sacked 13 times, and the Packers lost both games. On Green Bay's second possession on Sunday, Washington defensive end Preston Smith blasted through fill-in left tackle J.C. Tretter to sack Rodgers for a safety. That was Washington's final sack of the game, though. After a 1-for-8 first quarter going into the wind that spotted Washington to an 11-0 lead, Rodgers completed 20-of-28 passes, with two touchdowns, in the remainder of the game. When Eddie Lacy plowed into the end one on a 2-yard run with 12:23 left to lay, Green Bay had a 32-18 lead after scoring on five consecutive series. The Packers put up their highest point output since a 38-28 victory over the Kansas City Chiefs on Sept. 28 in the third game of the regular season.
Randall Cobb 12 yard TD pass from Aaron Rodgers. Redskins lead 11-7 #GBvsWAS #packersnation pic.twitter.com/xCKIUr6ECy
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Green Bay gets its ground game going
In the first half, the Packers had nine rushing attempts for 17 yards. Starting running back Eddie Lacy was playing with a rib injury, backup Jason Starks hardly played and wide receiver Randall Cobb lined up some running back. The same trio divided the carries in the second half, too, but with more work and better results. Green Bay had 124 yards on 23 rushing attempts in second half, when Starks and Lacy scored touchdowns. The biggest runs came on consecutive snaps: Facing fourth-and-1 at the Washington 45-yard line, Green Bay gave the ball to Lacy. The former Alabama standout converted with an 11-yard run, and when he got the ball on the next snap, he ran 30 yards to the Washington 4. James Starks ran into the end zone on the next play, putting the Packers back in front 24-18 with 4:12 left in the third quarter.
Eddie Lacy 2 yard TD run. Packers lead 32-18. Goodnight! #GBvsWAS pic.twitter.com/br1Uipih1F
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Road teams sweep Wild-Card Weekend
All four games were won by the visiting team on the opening weekend of the NFL playoffs. That's the first time that has happened. In the other games, the Kansas City Chiefs defeated the Houston Texans 30-0, the Pittsburgh Steelers defeated the Cincinnati Bengals 18-16 and the Seattle Seahawks defeated the Minnesota Vikings 10-9. Even though the road team was the lower seed in each game, it also was favored in each contest. None of the quarterbacks for the home teams – Brian Hoyer, AJ McCarron, Teddy Bridgewater and Kirk Cousins – had started an NFL playoff game before. The visiting teams' quarterbacks were Alex Smith, Ben Roethlisberger, Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers
DeSean Jackson misses touchdown opportunity
Washington wide receiver DeSean Jackson appeared to have scored on a 15-yard pass from Kirk Cousins on the Redskins' second possession of the game. But when Jackson cut across the corner of the end zone, he never got the ball across the goal line. After video review, the ball was moved about half-a-yard from the goal line. Green Bay stuffed two running plays, and an incomplete pass after a delay-of-game penalty left Washington with a field goal instead of a touchdown and a 5-0 instead of a 9-0 lead.
Green Bay going to Arizona
The Packers visit the Arizona Cardinals at 7:15 p.m. CST Saturday for an NFC semifinal game. NBC will televise the game. Green Bay will be making a return trip to Glendale, Ariz. The Cardinals beat the Packers 38-8 on Dec. 27 in the next-to-last game of the regular season.