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Dude, You have Issues!
Seriously, man. Do you wanna talk about it? =P You don't really hate me...*uses Jedi Mind Trick* You hate Savethemooses..... You know, it's good to have someone like you around, though Murph. You keep my head from getting too big. Because, honestly, a lot of the images I do are crap, but for some reason, people like them. It's good to have someone to keep me in check. --Strong RadX 02:10, 11 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- Well, it all started when I was five and my mom wouldn't let me play with the other kids...
- Actually, I just get a rush of fiendish joy from crushing people's dreams. It's nothing personal. I hate all people equally. --—rc (t) 04:40, 11 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- You are such a bastard. I think that's why I love you....--Strong RadX 14:00, 11 Nov 2005 (UTC)
Re: Simon Schama
I only just now noticed (after my deletion) your response to the latest recreation of the article in question. IYO, should I bring it back for now? --DWIII 03:42, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- I restored it for now. Sorry, my fault for the confusion. --—rc (t) 03:43, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- Ok (no prob); will leave this in your capable hands. --DWIII 03:46, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for unblocking me. I'd have stayed online in the morning longer to talk on IRC to you all but my connection has been acting funny in the last few days. Thanks. Promise to behave myself. --Ouro 14:31, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the star. There's been a few more edits to Kitten Huffing since I took out the Famous Huffer section, but no reverts to it, so there must be some agreement that it was useless. Carlb re-added one picture that I removed, but didn't ban me or anything. Maybe I did earn the award after all. :) -- T. (talk) 19:09, 22 Nov 2005 (UTC)
Presenting the hand-held laser guided bolt action aluminum potato rifle
http://www.spudtech.com/detail.asp?id=51 --Splaka 07:21, 14 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- I wants it. We could equip our army with them when we invade Wikipedia (and after that, Google, Microsoft and Geocities). --—rc (t) 09:09, 14 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- PS: I categorized all the myspace bands I could find. Have at them!. (External link so you don't need to create the category, in case you wanna rename it or such). --Splaka 10:55, 17 Nov 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for the guidance, I was indeed having problems with it. I'm more or less savey on the wikilanaguage, but the little FAQ about it under awards does not do a good job of explaining how to fashion a signature. I will use the correct syntax from now on. Feel free to delete it whenever you'd like. Again, thanks. ~Squire TheDiddler BMF (talk) 22:43, 19 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- Duh, I've previewed enough pages that I should have applied it to use. You're okay! Cheers!!1! ~Squire TheDiddler BMF (talk) 22:50, 19 Nov 2005 (UTC)
Anotherone for the myspace...?
Special:Undelete/Lemon_demon --Splaka 22:35, 20 Nov 2005 (UTC)
front page css
<gwax> good lord, the Main Page looks like shit with the MonoBook skin <gwax> it looks like we're half-assing this MA day thing <gwax> could we copy memory alphas skin and have our main page redirect to a skin preview page? <Splarka> hmmm <Splarka> I suppose we could modify the monobook.js to transwiki import their monobook.css only on the main page
So blame gwax. I added 3 lines to MediaWiki:Monobook.js to load their CSS (hah, just used the URL to their css, didn't even have to copy it) only when a user is on the front page and using monobook. I rule you now. revert it tomorrow with the other stuff. --Splaka 08:25, 22 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- I've only been struggeling with that for about a month grrrrr, Good Work!--The Right Honourable Maj Sir Elvis UmP KUN FIC MDA VFH Bur. CM and bars UGM F@H (Petition) 10:15, 22 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- Yay cookies! Btw after it is reverted tomorrow, to clear the cache of MediaWiki:Monobook.js you can (instead of a hard reload on the front page or clearing of browser cache) go to
Yournameis your username) and hit RELOAD a few times. --Splaka 10:43, 22 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- Yay cookies! Btw after it is reverted tomorrow, to clear the cache of MediaWiki:Monobook.js you can (instead of a hard reload on the front page or clearing of browser cache) go to
- It looks much better now without all the white spaces. Nicely done, cadet. --—rc (t) 15:11, 22 Nov 2005 (UTC)
fake weapons page
it looks like you removed my "machine gun that shoots chainsaws," but your comment indicated that you were just reverting vandalism.... I'm new to this whole uncyclopedia thing, so I'm wondering if this was a mistake, or if there was something wrong with my entry, or what... just curious. ZacharyS 03:21, 24 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- It was removed with this edit, which was by EvilZak, not me (unless I'm missing something else). He might have removed it because there are already a lot of "gun that shoots [object]"-type weapons already, but best to ask him on his talk page. --—rc (t) 04:47, 24 Nov 2005 (UTC)
User:Bobo appears to be completely ignoring requests to conglomerate his Sercia articles and fix his methods of using images but, rather, is chugging right along making and editing more. --Sir gwax (talk) 10:46, 25 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- Oops, I saw your note this morning and then promptly forgot about it. Looks like Codeine is on the job, though. --—rc (t) 04:06, 26 Nov 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your recent contributions to the de-listification of Uncyclopedia. I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one whacking large sections of articles which consist of stupid-ass lists of useless shit that morons keep adding to, because they lack the ability to make useful contributions. Facist Dictators unite!!! Sir Famine, Gun ♣ Petition » 15:28, 26 Nov 2005 (UTC)
(Very Unofficial) Uncyclopedia Folding@Home Team
I decided to start an Uncyclopedia F@H Team, and at Codeine's suggestion I'm asking whether or not this might be worth adding to the Charity block on the front page. What think ye? Cheers. -- T. (talk) 16:53, 28 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- I just joined. Very cool idea, and I think a link on the front page would be fine. --—rc (t) 18:17, 28 Nov 2005 (UTC)
Un News Logo
I've been muckying about with Mediawiki stuff again :8), if you still have the orginal(s) of Image:UnNews Eye Logo.jpg in PS can you do a PNG with transparency for Uncyclopedia:UnNews (once uploaded I can change User:Elvis/UnNews.css if need be). --The Right Honourable Maj Sir Elvis UmP KUN FIC MDA VFH Bur. CM and bars UGM F@H (Petition) 17:15, 29 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- I could have sworn I posted here after I'd uploaded the logo earlier today. I must be getting senile... (Splarka dealt with it, though, so no worries.) --—rc (t) 04:00, 30 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- Should it appear also, on any "UnNews:" namespace? Or is it good enough just on that page? --Splaka 04:14, 30 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- Can it easily be put on all UnNews: pages or will each page have to be specified? The latter is surely too bothersome. --—rc (t) 06:33, 30 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- Should it appear also, on any "UnNews:" namespace? Or is it good enough just on that page? --Splaka 04:14, 30 Nov 2005 (UTC)
Hey RC, I'm kind of curious, how did Euroipods make featured article with so many votes against it on the VFH page? --Sir gwax (talk) 22:53, 2 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- Looks like a total abuse of admin power. I'd ban him, but I totally support such abuses, being in power myself. Therefore, I stand firmly by RC's decision, looking forward to a time when I need to abuse my own power. Is there an upright, clenched fist image I can slap here? Something like &dictatorsunite; or something? Sir Famine, Gun ♣ Petition » 00:00, 3 Dec 2005 (UTC)
Thank you, Famine. I have posted a message on the subject here. I think it makes everything clearer. --—rc (t) 00:05, 3 Dec 2005 (UTC)
You deleted my latest page with the comment "deleted "Mn4": band vanity, please keep it to your Angelfire-esque site", and you did this only a few minutes after I had created it.
I will try to keep this comment polite, and simply ask if taking the piss out of my brother's band with a bunch of totally wrong information is any different from taking the piss out of any other random band on earth?
The acid test is "was it at all funny?". If you think not, then Uncyclopedia is obviously not the kind of site that I should even be attempting to share my own brand of (probably crap) humour. If, however, you think I was just after cheap advertising, then think again. I have never seen Mn4. I live on the opposite side of the world from them. I don't own or have anything to do with the Mn4 band site, and the things I said about them were not complimentary. I was mocking the style of the prose on the band site.
I plead guilty to being irreverent and disrespectful, but if I wanted to be respectful I would have gone to Wikipedia. It sounds like the people that control Uncyclopedia will allow you to make fun of anyone or anything, provided you are not suspected to be related to the person you are making fun of.
Rant over. It is just frustration. As a Wikicity sysop myself I have some fairly strong views about how heavily a wiki should be controlled, and after having had stuff deleted twice within a couple of days of joining Uncyclopedia I guess I've discovered that it is a bit too officiously controlled for my tastes. I'm not saying you don't need tight control. I'm just saying that I'll stop hassling you with my off-message stuff from now on. --Timonroad 09:51, 4 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- The acid test that the page failed worst was "Is it notable? Will more than 10 people get the joke?" As we get a few hundred new pages a day, we have to check each one for notability if it is something we don't recognize as notable. For people, we get racecar drivers to sports heros to obscure actors all the time. The easiest way to see if someone or something is notable is to check if there is a wikipedia page about it (that isn't an exact copy of what we're looking at on uncyc, and isn't permanently deleted or on the deletion list, or brand new). Since Uncyc is a satrical view or parody of Wikipedia, this is a rather good guideline we go by. Google searches also reveal some information. Both Google and Wikipedia overwhelmingly seemed to think Mn4 was an asteroid or some sort of tax form. Now, there are provisons made, based on past decisions by Chron (the lazy and aloof founder) on vanity, and we've cobbled them together to make Uncyclopedia:Vanity Policies. People that come to make fun of themselves, or at least allow fun-making in a balanced and equal environment (like, a forum coming here, eg ZFGC) has been allowed if they keep the stuff to one page. But we've had to delete so much "Ha my schoolmate/sibling/teacher/friend is so ghey" that anything approaching that (most easily found through non-notability) is instahuffed. Now, if your page had been obvious band self promotion, we have ways of dealing with that, like this and this. But as it just seemed to be non-notable vanity, RC and I decided it was just deletable. Since I joined 3 months ago there have been 15,000 deletions, and only about 5,000 'kept' additions. So yes, most new stuff is deleted, and this may seem hostile, but it is the only way the uncyc can be kept to even a minimum standard of quality. Sorry. --Splaka 10:30, 4 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- Basically what Splaka said. It sounds like the people that control Uncyclopedia will allow you to make fun of anyone or anything, provided you are not suspected to be related to the person you are making fun of. That is actually somewhat close. We don't usually allow pages that appeal to a very small number of people - there are a few exceptions on the Vanity Policies page, but in general, the subject of a page should be recognizable to many people. Yes, the deletion process is perhaps more subjective that Wikipedia; they can get rid of anything factually untrue, but we have to try to judge humor and the appeal of that humor.
- I didn't think you were just trying to advertise the band (though when I see a band page, even if it's humorously deprecatory, it's usually safe to assume it was written by a band member), but it just doesn't jive with how we've decided to do things here. If you just want to keep the page somewhere without it being in the main space of Uncyclopedia, I'd be happy to restore the contents and move it to your userpage. --—rc (t) 17:59, 4 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- OK RC - thanks for taking the time to explain. I've taken a deep breath and actually read the beginner's guide, including the "vanity policy". I broke the rule, and like any user of a new bit of gear, I should have read the manual first.
- My only trouble now is, if none of that was "not notable" - if no more that 10 people were going to get those particular bits of sarcasm - then NOTHING that I write is likely to be notable in your frame of reference. I will opt for early retirement and save myself the embarrassment of further rejection slips. No hard feelings. I just wandered into the wrong bar.--Timonroad 00:57, 5 Dec 2005 (UTC)
Thanks. I noticed there are some with that prefix and some without. I was just trying to follow the directions on the main page of unnews. and actually the new orleans one is my second unnews article, I suppose I should change the other one too.--k3vin 23:10, 26 Dec 2005 (UTC)
It's beautiful, man
Like an early Christmas present, or something. Thank you very much, I shall treasure it
always for a bit. -- Sir Codeine K·H·P·B·M·N·C·U·Bu. · (Harangue) 09:20, 9 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- No problem. I promised I'd make you one, like, a long time ago, and I finally took three minutes yesterday and threw it together. --—rc (t) 00:50, 10 Dec 2005 (UTC)
User Names
After we got a 2nd commercial website name pop up on the UN:F@H team I decided to leave a talk message about it. It's a battle I'm prepared to lose, but at least I've said my piece on it. Anyway, it made me think: Have there been problems with people having .domain type usernames on Uncyclopedia itself? What's the ingorable policy on this if it were to happen (or if it already has)? Would it have been okay for me to have signed up as fullerbrushman.com and make my ~2100 edits? -- T. (talk) 14:57, 9 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- I haven't noticed any real problems with advertisement usernames, and I don't think we have any "policy" on it. If a person using a .com (or whatever) nickname made legitimate edits, I personally would probably let it go. --—rc (t) 00:47, 10 Dec 2005 (UTC) Euroipods.com
- I am from Germany --Maddie's life 02:20, 15 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- THank You!--Maddie's life 02:29, 15 Dec 2005 (UTC)(Sorry I forget to enter account name.
|Todd Lyons has awarded you a cookie!
Now go play in traffic.
Awarded 12/16/05 ~ For your stellar contributions to Uncyclopedia:Folding@home.
Another band?
Gestalt_Switch (might be huffed by the time you see it, check the undelete) --Splaka 10:26, 20 Dec 2005 (UTC)
Plain Text Day
In the IRC channel it was decided that we should do a Plain Text Day reskinning (Splaka stuck it on January 24th). I have mocked up a reskin here. Approve? Dissaprove? Thought? There is also some question as to what the color scheme should be, so if you have any opinions on that it would be helpful. Thanks --Isra1337 02:37, 21 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- Side note, what inspired this was Man uncyclopedia (formerly Man page). --Splaka 02:44, 21 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- IRC'd. --—rc (t) 22:56, 26 Dec 2005 (UTC)
RE: Undictionary
Aha. Thanks, I thought something looked different on the Undictionary page, but I wasn't sure. --DrAwesome 18:44, 24 Dec 2005 (UTC)
Korean Main Page
Nice one. But uh, why on Christmas particularly? --Nerd42 03:59, 25 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- The real question is, why not on every other day? Think about that. --—rc (t) 04:01, 25 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- When was the last time your were really surprised on Christmas morning, Nerd? Tah-DAH! Enjoy. -- T. (talk) 11:17, 25 Dec 2005 (UTC)
The British Invasion
RC, just been "chatting" on IRC and came up with a "cool" idea.....namely giving Uncycopedia an English skin. But its got to be the American Tourist version of England.....union jacks, Dick Van Dyke, Cockney_Rhyming_Slang, pictures of the Queen......what do you think? -- Sir Mhaille (talk to me)
about quotes lady burtlingtot
I'm sorry you think it's bad for the comunity. If you want I can take away all the quotes. I just thought it would be funny (uptight british lady in love with pirates). I also posted the quotes on the pages I liked most(not the most popular...or at least not only). I wasn't meaning to divert to my page(I would have made a good page if I wanted to do that). Please let me know if you think it would be best to clean everything up.Darcken 07:00, 27 Dec 2005 (UTC)
---Never mind. I re-read some of the quotes It WAS a stupid idea. I will retrace my steps and delete the quotes. Sorry.07:13, 27 Dec 2005 (UTC)
Well you didn't get them all :D But I went through my contributions list and deleted all of them.
I know how hard it is to make something funny and keep it safe from idiots. I didn't mean to spam you.
btw do you know anybody that knows romanian and could help me translate a funny page? ( http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Cum_sa_devii_bucurestean ) Darcken 07:48, 27 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- I don't know of any current Romanian users, no. You might check Talk:Romania - we had a veritable flood of Romanians over the summer and some of them might have stuck around. I know user:Squirrel was a helpful guy, but he hasn't edited in a few months. Romania still gets some edits, actually - if you add it to your watch list you might catch somebody who could help you out. --—rc (t) 07:54, 27 Dec 2005 (UTC)
This guy, User:JBob, has been removing VFH pages at random, could you look into it, please? Jack Cain 07:03, 27 Dec 2005 (UTC)
Mediocre Britain
Was featured before people really had to vote for it. --Savethemooses 23:49, 27 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- I was wondering about that. There were about ten articles that had the ArticleFH template but weren't listed in the VFH archives. Personally, I don't think the pre-VFH articles should be listed, partly because there wasn't so much of a process then, and also because, now that we lost the old Main Page diffs, there's no record of it there. --—rc (t) 23:53, 27 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- I'll just nominate it in VFH. It's well known and should get a lot of votes.
- Um, what good would the Main Page history be? Shouldn't {{featuredarticle}}'s history be what you need? --Carlb 00:13, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- Hey, you're right. I assumed the template came later. --—rc (t) 00:17, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- Heh heh. I featured one of my articles every other day back then. I was so young. --Savethemooses 22:15, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- Hey, you're right. I assumed the template came later. --—rc (t) 00:17, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC)
What? What? What?
<rcmurphy> I hate you all.
What caused this instant outburst? What did we do that deserved that? What could I do to make you happier? » Brig Sir Dawg | t | v | c » 18:18, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC)
Just wondering, I was playing the Zork game, and noticed it was impossible to win (DUH) when I Looked at Category:Zork, I noticed hundreds of pages... how the hell do I get to them in Zork? I mean, everywhere except North and South lead to immediate death, and even in North and south it's impossible to go anywhere but the house, and the forest. So wtf? Were the links deleted? Or am I just missing something? MrMooCow 00:29, 29 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- Are you using the correct dice? -- Sir Mhaille (talk to me)
- Haha, very funny. Anyway, what I mean is, since everywhere in the game leads to instant death, why are so many pages there in the category. MrMooCow 00:59, 29 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- Honestly, I have no idea. I was involved with Zork up to the laboratory with the hermit. The game was quite playable and tight up to that point, but there have been hundreds of pages made since then and I don't know if it's possible to "win" now. I'm guessing, based on the fact that there have been so many editors, that the game is full of holes. And yeah, the death pages are excessive. --—rc (t) 02:52, 29 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- But how do you get to the laboratory with the hermit? All I can find is a kitchen at the start, (north) a house (south) and a forest and a cave.... I think somebody broke whichever link gets you further in the game. MrMooCow 03:06, 29 Dec 2005 (UTC)
Wow, the game is really poor now. Way too many options. Here's how to get to the lab (or at least one way)
- > go north
- > get knife
- > remove knife
- > leave house
- > go left
- > enter cave
- > leave cave
- > go right
- > examine house
- > enter house
- > go south
- > go south
- > go left
- > enter bathroom
- > use knife
- > go back
- > talk to kid
- > enter foyer
- > climb stairs
- > examine junk
- > nudge junk with toe
- > descend stairs
- > use gold key on big door
From there, you're pretty much on your own. --—rc (t) 03:30, 29 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- Cool, I'm up to storage now. You helped a lot :P MrMooCow 04:44, 29 Dec 2005 (UTC)
Awards December 2005
RC, have left some text hidden within the Monthly Awards Template for the NOTM Award won by Why3. SaveTheMooses won the WOTM, but I'm sure you'll be able to compose something for him (I like the intro on the WOTM page that Codeine did for him). Happy Nude Year!!! -- Sir Mhaille (talk to me)
- Righto, the awards are finished. Unless I forgot something, which is pretty likely. --—rc (t) 07:33, 1 Jan 2006 (UTC)
Vandalism outbreak
I notice that Template:fundraiser (a prime target for anonymous proxy guy) isn't protected. Perhaps it could use a good locking? - Nonymous 03:02, 3 Jan 2006 (UTC)
- He's running through our most popular pages, so the template probably isn't a target. --—rc (t) 03:46, 3 Jan 2006 (UTC)
Featured Potato Skin Puzzle Piece
I've made a perhaps more adequate image for your uber-idea featured on your userpage. I won't upload it using the same name, as I believe in freedom of choice. Here's the image: . Enjoy! --⇔ Sir Mon€¥$ignSTFU F@H|CM|+S 07:14, 31 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- You are a prince among men, sir. I will change the image forthright. --—rc (t) 07:54, 31 Dec 2005 (UTC)
D00d! U rox!
Old Logo
rcmurphy Paul: I have a passable transparency of the original logo.
- Awesome. Could you send it to me (paulgb at gmail), or upload it sometime late tonight or early tomorrow? Paulgb 20:38, 4 Jan 2006 (UTC)
I wanted to congratulate you for the stellar rating you received from Nintendorulez. I think an award is in order, but what do you give to the man who has (almost) everything? I hope the thought counts for something. :) -- T. (talk) 23:55, 4 Jan 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you, Sir Todd. I'd say he's mostly spot-on with his rating; the only thing I must contest is my "7" in Crankiness. I admit I can get a bit peevish sometimes, but if 1 is Mr. Rogers and 7 is CRUSHERBOT, I don't think I can possibly rank higher than a 6. --—rc (t) 00:15, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)
Featured articles waiting list?
Looking at VFH I see a lot of articles that meet the voting criteria to be featured but are just sitting there. Why not add a section in between nominated and featured like a "waiting list," where articles that are clearly on their way to featuredom (such as Gerrymandering) get an area that acknowledges that they will eventually become featured and there is no need to vote for them anymore (maybe even include the date on which they will be featured)? I suspect such a section would free up a TON of space for the articles with only several votes, but which are caught in the chaos. - Nonymous 15:33, 8 Jan 2006 (UTC)
- Well, there aren't any set voting criteria for featuring articles. Whichever has the most votes when it comes time to change articles gets the nod (well, there are some exceptions to that, but in general...). Fortunes on VFH can change at the drop of a
IRC commenthat, so planning ahead like that might not be a great idea. I have thought about it though, and at one point I instituted a similar quasi-policy for VFP, though that was mainly to keep me straight and didn't exclude upcoming images from receiving more votes. --—rc (t) 00:34, 9 Jan 2006 (UTC)
Looks like you discarded cockring while I had an edit window open; my edit discarded about half the original text and added new nonsense. Oops. --Carlb 03:50, 9 Jan 2006 (UTC)
- There's that fabled Uncyc admin synchronicity you hear so much about. --—rc (t) 03:53, 9 Jan 2006 (UTC)
- As with most comedy......its all about timing. :) -- Sir Mhaille (talk to me)
You win!
<rcmurphy> How do you PM someone not in this room? <rcmurphy> /msg name? <rcmurphy> NEVER MIND DO NOT ANSWER <rcmurphy> Thank you.
Congratulations! --KATIE!! 02:26, 12 Jan 2006 (UTC)
- Did you know that this award was originally created for rc, too? » Brig Sir Dawg | t | v | c » 17:51, 14 Jan 2006 (UTC)
- He told me about that... haha.. --KATIE!! 17:53, 14 Jan 2006 (UTC)
Trying to understand...
OK, I'm going straight to the source because I'm trying to get handle on why the two images that I self nominated were revoed by you so quickly from the VFP page. Do you not like me, my work, or is my whole book of work so terrible that I shouldn't even try anymore. Seriously, I want to be a good contributing member of the community, what does it take and what do I need to do in your estimation to get there? Prettiestpretty 15:01, 12 Jan 2006 (UTC)
- It's nothing personal at all. Nominations are removed based on the votes they get. Generally, a -3 is enough to remove. Once there are a significant number of votes though, a 0 is enough. Your images weren't bad. They were simply a touch esoteric. Also, featured images should be funny instantly, without much thought. Your Gang of Four isn't, because it takes consideration and is a touch hard to see. Babe Vigoda is a fine image and great if it's understood, but not everybody knows who Abe Vigoda is. So that's why they failed. Don't take it personally; you're a great artist! Keep trying and I'm sure you'll get an image featured. Unless you're Kakun... =] --KATIE!! 15:08, 12 Jan 2006 (UTC)
- Esoteric as in too deep? Katie, thank you sweetie for the encouragement, Hugs, Prettiestpretty 16:09, 12 Jan 2006 (UTC)
- As Keitei said, -3 is usually the point at which images are removed. It's certainly not personal, it's just that at that point it would be very difficult for an image to gain enough support to be featured. For example, I think your Gang of Four image was at -5 votes (one For and six Againsts). It would probably have taken more than fifteen straight votes For to make it a competitor for highlighting (that's just an estimate based on recently featured images) and based on the initial voting, that wasn't likely. Babe Vigoda had been on VFP for about four days and had a total of -1 vote, but thirteen people had already cast their votes, and we don't have that many voters in total, so again it's unlikely that the picture would have gained enough support to be featured. I didn't remove the nominations because I voted against them, I removed them because enough people had voted against them that they probably wouldn't have made it to the front page. I try to be objective in removing nominations. If you think the removals were unfair in comparison to other removals, please let me know why.
- As for your body of work, I'm honestly not familiar with what you've done outside of the images you've nominated. I guess the best thing to do is look at the previously featured images and articles and see what they did. Also remember that only a small fraction of the images and articles made for this site get featured - we have close to 19,000 articles and only a hundred-odd of them have been highlighted. (Of course, the vast majority of those 19,000 articles are garbage, so your chances aren't actually that bad. ;) ) --—rc (t) 17:36, 12 Jan 2006 (UTC)
- As I said to User:Keitei, thanks for taking the time to answer. And believe it or not, it did seem as you had something against my work - but that was just me projecting onto - not fair in the least. But thats my problem, you didn't give it to me. Once again, thanks for providing that insight. That you took the time to say something means a lot, and say even more about you personally - hugs, Prettiestpretty 21:42, 12 Jan 2006 (UTC)
- No problem, I'm glad you asked me about it. I appreciate rational discussion, even on Uncyc. Well, sometimes. --—rc (t) 04:38, 13 Jan 2006 (UTC)
- Well then can I ask in all sincerity is there a wiz bang medal that I get for trying hard and being sincere? I read some of these other users pages and there all decked out like Anna Nicole Smith showing off all her medals for being Anna Nichole Smith. Oh, shit, I made my needs known - thats why I always get in trouble because society tells us that women are not suppossed to not make to make their needs known unless we're on Montel or Sally Jesse Rottensmell. Hugs, Prettiestpretty 20:50, 13 Jan 2006 (UTC)
- The truth is, there is rampant illicit award-giving here. Unless an award is on
an admin'smy userpage, don't trust that it is legit! As a matter of fact, I probably don't even know half of the awards people have created over the months, though I remember the goatse ninjastar. --—rc (t) 00:55, 14 Jan 2006 (UTC)
- The truth is, there is rampant illicit award-giving here. Unless an award is on
- Well then can I ask in all sincerity is there a wiz bang medal that I get for trying hard and being sincere? I read some of these other users pages and there all decked out like Anna Nicole Smith showing off all her medals for being Anna Nichole Smith. Oh, shit, I made my needs known - thats why I always get in trouble because society tells us that women are not suppossed to not make to make their needs known unless we're on Montel or Sally Jesse Rottensmell. Hugs, Prettiestpretty 20:50, 13 Jan 2006 (UTC)
- No problem, I'm glad you asked me about it. I appreciate rational discussion, even on Uncyc. Well, sometimes. --—rc (t) 04:38, 13 Jan 2006 (UTC)
- As I said to User:Keitei, thanks for taking the time to answer. And believe it or not, it did seem as you had something against my work - but that was just me projecting onto - not fair in the least. But thats my problem, you didn't give it to me. Once again, thanks for providing that insight. That you took the time to say something means a lot, and say even more about you personally - hugs, Prettiestpretty 21:42, 12 Jan 2006 (UTC)
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Can you take a look at this image and tell me if I'm on the right path? Image:Deviledeggneg.jpg Prettiestpretty 19:14, 14 Jan 2006 (UTC)


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It promises to be one of the biggest matches in WrestleMania history when the hottest rivalry over the last year finally comes to a head.
Daniel Bryan and Triple H have had problems with each other since SummerSlam last year, when Triple H cost Bryan the WWE Championship minutes after he had won it.
Their rivalry has been on and off and back and forth for some time. However, the match promises much, mostly due to Bryan's massive popularity.
There are plenty of X-factors to watch out for in this absolutely massive match. Let's take a look at some of them.

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We're going to have plenty of time to dive into what feels like myriad of potential problems facing the Yankees in 2014.
But let's get to the nitty gritty after pitchers and catchers report Friday.
For now, here are the 18 questions that stick out the most as the team begins shaking off the New York snow and settles into Tampa's sunshine.
- What's Derek Jeter's deal? So many things go wrong this season if Jeter isn't reliable. Jeter says he expects to be his 2012 All-Star self. But what if he can't stay healthy again? Or, worse, what if he's perfectly healthy, but plays like a 40-year-old?
- Can Mark Texieria rebound? This answer might take a while, considering the first baseman's notoriously slow starts. But how long will it take for him to start swinging comfortably, against live pitching, with that repaired wrist? He's acknowledged he's slowing down. Will this injury turn that slow pace into a crawl?
- Who's platooning with Kelly Johnson at third base? Yankees general manager Brian Cashman named Eduardo Nunez and Scott Sizemore as potential righty options alongside Johnson, a switch hitter whose much better from the left. But what about Dean Anna? Russ Canzler?
- What kind of shape will CC Sabathia be in? He slimmed down in 2013 — the worst season of his career. He's still slim, according to photos he's posted on social media. His personal trainer has said he's putting on muscle and gaining back weight. Will he be able to put it behind his fastball, which has dropped about 2 mph in velocity over the last couple of years? Will he be an ace again?
- How will Masahiro Tanaka adjust to, well, everything? A bigger, slicker ball. A harder mound. Jeering fans. New York's media. Major league hitters. Big-time money. Scrutiny more intense than ever. Can Tanaka get past all of it and fulfill the promise the Yankees believe he showcases?
- What does the bullpen look like? So, there's David Robertson as the likely closer. And there's Shawn Kelley and Matt Thornton. Got any other locks? Didn't think so.
- Who's the fifth starter? The former question might not get answered until this one's figured out. The team might be rooting for Michael Pineda to take the job and show it why it traded away Jesus Montero to Seattle. (Montero hasn't exactly turned out as planned for the Mariners, either.) But if Pineda, who hasn't pitched in the majors since 2011, can't take the job, it might be up to David Phelps or Adam Warren or Vidal Nuno.
- Who's backing up Brian McCann? Will Francisco Cervelli keep the job? He started 2013 as the starter, but an injury and a 50-game performance-enhancing drug suspension ruined the season for him. Could Austine Romine or J.R. Murphy show greater potential?
- Can David Robertson handle the closer's role? Tough to see this one getting hashed out until the first few weeks of the regular season, when those ninth innings start meaning something. But he's got to show he's got the stuff to lock it down in February and March, right?
- What's Hideki Matsui's role? He's joining the team as a special instructor, according to the New York Post. He's talked to Tanaka since the pitcher arrived in New York, and was even used in a video to recruit the star. Will he stick around a bunch during the season, too, to aid Tanaka's transition as a sort of mentor?
- Will the real Hiroki Kuroda please stand up? Who is this guy? The lights-out, Cy Young-caliber starter of the first half of 2013? Or the pitcher who finally started looking like he was in his late 30's in the season's second half? Girardi has said he overworked Kuroda last year.
- And, while we're at it, Ivan Nova, too? Nova looked great in 2013, posting a 3.10 ERA in 139 innings. But it wasn't a full season's sample. He pitched to a 5.10 ERA in 2012.
- Is Brett Gardner still trade bait? He's still the Yankees' most attractive chip — a 30-year-old outfielder in his prime worth little money in 2014.
- And what about Gary Sanchez? With McCann entrenched as the team's catcher, the Yankees could look to deal Sanchez, still widely regarded as one of the league's top backstop prospects. Cashman has said teams interested in Sanchez have reached out to the Yankees.
- Can a young outfielder impress? Hey, Slade Heathcott, Tyler Austin and Mason Williams. We're looking at you.
- How does Jacoby Ellsbury feel in pinstripes? Yes, it will be weird seeing Ellsbury in anything but a Red Sox uniform. But how many times has a big-named free agent put on pinstripes and looked right at home? Oh, that's right, about as many times a big-named free agent has put on pinstripes and looked like he was in Guam.
- How does Joe Girardi manage this cast of characters? Like Joe Toree before him, Girardi has been lauded for his ability to handle the personalities given to him. But there's a lot of new guys here, and they all carry reputations and expectations. And that's only thinking about the fresh faces. He's going to have to learn to manage without security blanket Mariano Rivera.


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Daniel Craig screams at fan after being photographed
The 'Skyfall' star was shopping for groceries with Weisz near their home when a fan tried to photograph them.
London: Daniel Craig and Rachel Weisz were spotted out on yet another stroll a day after the Bond star grabbed the phone of a fan who tried to click a picture of the star couple.
The 'Skyfall' star was shopping for groceries with Weisz near their home when the fan tried to photograph them, reported Sun online.
During Thursday's rebuff, Craig reportedly screamed, "Is watching me food shopping with my wife really all that interesting to you?"
He then snatched the mobile off the shocked fan as Weisz tried to calm him down.
"Daniel was really angry, and it looked at one point like he might even destroy the phone," a source said.
"But Rachel was much more calm, and quickly stepped in to give the guy a stern but polite lecture on privacy. She really defused the situation, which could have got out of hand."
The couple are known for being very private. Craig has previously said, "I think there's a lot to be said for keeping your own counsel. It's not about being afraid to be public with your emotions or about who you are and what you stand
"But if you sell it off it's gone. You can't buy it back. You can't buy your privacy back."


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PICTOU - The Pictou County peewee AA Subway Selects took four of a possible six points this week with two wins and a loss in league play.
The Selects travelled to Halifax on Wednesday night, beating the Halifax Hawks 2-0. Mariah Linehan and Madison Robertson scored, with assists from Emily Hayes, Jenna Reid and Lindsey MacDonald. Goaltender Victoria Dunn got the shutout.
On Saturday at the Hector Arena the local girls were victorious over the Dartmouth Whalers, winning 4-0. KJ Emery opened the scoring, banging away at a rebound on the goal line, assisted by Jenna Hickey. Eva Wornell scored twice – her first shot hitting the post and ending up in the net and her second a shot from the slot.
Shalyn Bona and Madison Robertson got the assists on both goals. Reid added the fourth goal for the Selects. Hickey and MacKenzie Ells recorded the assists. Dunn once again earned the shutout, turning aside 11 shots from the Whalers, while the Selects had 33 shots during the game.
At the Hector Arena on Sunday Pictou County faced off against the Valley Wild, outshooting their opponents 22-18, but falling short by one goal, with the Wild taking the game 2-1. Linehan scored the lone goal for the Selects.


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Stolen Swedish painting up for auction in London
TT/The Local/dl · 26 Nov 2010, 08:42
Published: 26 Nov 2010 08:42 GMT+01:00
- Swede surprise over Turkish painting jackpot (22 Nov 10)
- Swedish union fetches millions from art auction (18 Oct 10)
- Pupil defaces artwork during school field trip (14 Oct 10)
The painting, "Freja", was stolen in a burglary of a family in the Stockholm area in 2004.
Six years later it has emerged at an auction organised by Sotheby's in London. But when Swedish police caught wind of the sale, they put a stop to the auction, the Dagens Industri (DI) newspaper reports.
"I can confirm that the painting was withdrawn because of ambiguities regarding the ownership," said Matthew Floris, spokesman for Sotheby's, to DI.
According to the catalog, the painting was submitted to the auction by a private collector in Switzerland. Swedish police have said they will now question the man about the painting.
"In my estimation, one could suspect him of selling stolen goods, but the investigation hasn't proceeded so far that he is formally a suspect," said Lars Stervander of the Stockholm county police told the newspaper.
The painting technically belongs to the insurance company who paid compensation to the former owner in Sweden.
According to DI was the painting was insured for 3 million kronor ($428,000).
The Swedish artist Anders Zorn painted the work in 1901 and it depicts the naked goddess of love, Freja.


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Robotics students are scheduled to testify to the House Energy and Technology Committee next week to share details of their mission last month in the island nation of Palau.
Students took their robot to Palau from March 26 to April 7 to assist a volunteer group called the BentProp Project scour the ocean for remains of U.S. airmen shot down in World War II.
The students, led by teacher and adviser Bob Richards, were personally thanked by the U.S. ambassador to Palau.
State Rep. Mike Shirkey, R-Clark Lake, arranged to bring the students to the Capitol. He said he wants lawmakers to hear about innovation and advanced technology in education.
"I just think it's a cool, cool story," Shirkey said. "It was an awesome opportunity to take what they learn in the classroom and apply it in the world."


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By MICHAEL PUCCIARELLI
In the short time that Mayor Bill de Blasio has been in office, he has proved that he is a liar, a hypocrite, a fraud and that he can't be trusted.
Four cases in point:
He stated that he has "found" school seats for 53,000 pre-K students, but he says there is no room for charter school students.
He made public statements about lowering speed limits and ticketing reckless driving but allows his chauffeur-driven fleet of cars to speed, go through stop signs, and drive recklessly.
He wants the public to think of him as the common man who plays by the rules, but he made a call to the police commissioner to get one of his campaign contributors released from jail and not treated the same as any other citizen.
He allowed his wife to hire a "chief of staff" at the public's expense of $170,000 per year. Who elected her?
He likes to grandstand and do things like have his press agents call the media to take photos of him shoveling snow in front of his home in Brooklyn. Doesn't he realize that he is the mayor of New York City and we are NOT paying him to shovel his personal snow.
Sign me "Fed up after only two months."


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Here's a quick round-up of some stories people are talking about to start your morning:
Counterattack: Jefferson County sewer creditors object to ratepayer claims
Spray used in schools: Southern Poverty Law Center opposes Birmingham police request to be dismissed from pepper spray lawsuit
John Roberts vote explained: Alabama solicitor general details philosophies behind U.S. Supreme Court healthcare act ruling
Want more? See more news from Birmingham and around Alabama here.
Bloodless ending: Fairfield man surrenders after holding police at bayWrongdoing or not: Jefferson County Commission asks for investigation into indigent care money
Want more? See more news from Birmingham and around Alabama here.


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The Tourette Syndrome Association of Greater New York State and the state's Developmental Disabilities Planning Council hosts a conference on Tourette Syndrome and Associated Disorders Oct. 22 and 23 at the Doubletree Inn in East Syracuse.
The conference is designed for educators, families and medical care providers and will feature national and international speakers on the topics of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder, learning disabilities, social skills deficits and others. Attend Friday sessions for $35, or attend a Friday reception plus Saturday sessions for $65. For details call 716-839-4430.
Tourette Syndrome is a neurological disorder characterized by involuntary movements and vocalizations.


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What Could've Happened if Baseball's Mike Piazza Came Out
Are you a professional baseball player who slaps teammates on the ass — and means it? Are you a professional basketball player who showers with teammates — and offers to wash their backs? Are you a professional football player who reviews game plays with teammates — and interprets those criss-crossed Xs and Os somewhat differently? Then America needs you! To come out!
Good for all those gay rights organizations, from Gay Inc. to the grassroots, motivating everyone to run down to Washington D.C. or call your legislator. But none of you could accomplish what an openly gay professional athlete could do with a single Sports Illustrated coming out cover. (Or, for that matter, Broadway's Take Me Out. But we're just sayin'.)
Getting paid millions of dollars a year for being a professional closet case means you're not doing your civic duty, and the situation needs to be rectified, yo!
It has sportswriter Jeff Pearlman calling for you homos in the dugout to take your bunting and jock itch to the heartland, and show fans and followers that their sports heroes just might be pitchers and catchers. (Oh, the terrible puns we could continue with.)
People fear the idea of gay teachers and gay neighbors; literally fear catching "The Gay"—as if it were a strand of swine flu. This is especially true in the sheltered world of professional baseball, where most competitors have devoted their lives to the singular, non-thought-provoking tasks of seeing-ball, throwing-ball, hitting-ball, catching-ball. The major leagues are the domain of Maxim and strip clubs; of long-legged, large-breasted girlfriends and "Check out the blonde eight rows up …" mid-game commentaries. In the mid-1990s, an American League superstar confided in a small number of peers that he was gay, but insisted the information never be released. His reason? Fear of banishment. "Baseball just doesn't lend itself to accepting gays," says Billy Bean, the former major league journeyman who came out of the closet after retiring. "There's very little empathy for people like me."
Indeed, it has been 10 years since [former MLB athlete Billy] Bean announced that he was gay, and any initial hopes of change within the sport have been largely dashed. Bean has waited and waited and waited for an active player to stand up and say, "I'm a homosexual. So what?" but he no longer holds his breath. "There's just so much to lose," he says. "Your contract, your teammates' trust, your place. Do I wish I came out when I was active? Yes, I do. But I wanted to be accepted, just like everyone else. Who would have accepted me if they knew I was gay?"
Yet here's the mild shocker: In the aftermath of Bean's announcement, a handful of high-profile big leaguers—Trevor Hoffman and Brad Ausmus among them—not only embraced Bean's words, but spoke out on his behalf. "It wouldn't have made a difference to me [when we were teammates]," said Ausmus, "and it doesn't bother me now." Brian Johnson, Bean's Triple A roommate and a future Padres catcher, called his old chum and said, "I wish you had told me back then. I would have supported you 100 percent."
Now, a decade after Bean's courageous step, the time is at hand. You have the opportunity to be more than a ballplayer; more than just another blah notation buried deep within the pages of the Baseball Encyclopedia. For every 10,000 Bill Brutons and Joe Sambitos, there's a Curt Flood. For every 10,000 Paul Blairs and Jack Clarks, there's a Robinson.
Just be sure you've healthily invested all those contract dollars, because they're about to stop flowing. Now everyone together: "Take me out to the ball game, take me to the crowd …"
Wisconsin Gay
We need not only an openly gay player in professional sports, but an openly gay baseball /STAR/.
Billy Bean had a career average of .226, five home run and 53 RBIs. Not stellar. While I'm even surprised Bean did disclose his sexuality (and I'm proud of him for it) he doesn't advance the cause as much as a big name would.
There's a reason Jackie Robinson was such a big deal.
1) Since his barrier was his skin he was inherently "out." We'll need a college player or someone early in their career to come out to have the same effect.
2) Robinson was quite good. BA of .311 and took the Dodgers to six pennants. There's a reason that his number is the only one retired across ALL of baseball. If Robinson had broken the barrier and sucked, I'm not sure that would have happened.
I've heard rumblings of a few players, including Ryan Braun of my Brewers, but nothing concrete or fair to really talk about in earnest.
I long await the day that someone proves that homos aren't sissies and can slug and/or throw with the best of them.Jun 11, 2009 at 12:21 pm · @Reply ·
Someday a MLB player will come out, but it won't be Piazza because he's not gay. Next!
Was that mid-1990's superstar the same one who was dating Out's editor? If so, it was an American League East Coast star…which means Red Sox, Yankees, or Orioles. Orioles would be Brady Anderson or Roberto Alomar…
I posted a video about the idea of the first openly-gay baseball player, mirroring it to Jackie Robison's first season.
I wouldn't have the guts to be out.. not because of the peers, but because of the rednecks and right wing-nuts you have to face every day. I am not saying they shouldn't. I am just acknowledging that I am not that gutsy.
Anti-gay bigotry is to blame for gay people being closeted and discriminated against no doubt. But gay people have not helped themselves one bit. Gay people are the worst group for supporting their own. Look at any gay magazine and you will see a heterosexual on the cover, the most valuable spot on a magazine. Most gay people worship heterosexuals. Gay people do the exact things heterosexuals do. Gay people have bought into the whole social hierarchy bs that is fundamental to heterosexuality because they can't think on their own. Listen, no group is better than another, we are just different. Christopher Isherwood coined the term "heterosexual dictatorship," no term can be more true. Read his book "The Single Man" and think about it. Gay people still recite the wrong and bigoted idea that any anti-gay bigot must be gay (because you know heterosexuals are pure and perfect *sarcasm*). Gay people still haven't confronted our oppressors, heterosexuals, or looked at ourselves as independent people and not the group that serves and reinforces heterosexuality.
If a gay baseball player were to come out he would be on his own. Gay men would not support him, they are too afraid to and too self-hating to. And of course heterosexual won't either. I don't think a gay man can handle all the pressure on his own and that's why none has come out. Today, people's lives are scrutinizes to the nth degree, that wasn't the case when Jackie Robinson played baseball. Fans are loud, distracting throughout games now unlike in the 40s and 50s where they would remain in good order. Gay athletes would have come out by now if they had the support.
More than 10 years ago Ian Roberts revealed his sexuality while still playing rugby. No man has since done the same.
I read every single blog, article and picture posting on this site daily. I absorb every comment, good and bad.
I always want to participate in the conversation, but as a straight married woman, I cant speak of what gay friends go through, so I keep quiet, out of respect.
Your posting made me sad, and confused; yet I can't put my finger on it.
Part of me wants to defend myself– I would support an openly gay athlete…but who knows, maybe i am in the minority.
Part of me wants to give you a hug for having to keep a wall up from your own. Like I said, I read everything here, and notice the harshest, most nasty comments I have EVER heard (about the gay community) come from gay men. It never occurred to me that the most hateful comments could come from the people I would expect to support me.
Another part, wonders how much of your posting isn't a self fulfilling prophecy. Kinda sounds like you are allowing yourself to play the victim. "heterosexual dictatorship" well, I guess… if you allow yourself to be dominated. But again, I dont walk in your shoes, so I cannot pass judgment.
Ultimately, I think someone needs to just do it (no sports pun intended) Sure, being the first is always the hardest, but if everyone keeps looking around, waiting for the savior…no one will ever step forward. And while the reasons may be valid, in the end they are just excuses.
Anyway, there you have the confused ramblings of an outsider. Take it as you may.
@Em: I'm not a victim, I acknowledge the uncomfortable truths.
Forget the players. Theo Epstein may give me some lovin' anytime he wants!
I guess that is where my confusion sets in. I certainly dont think you desire to be a victim, nor do i really think you are one.
Maybe it is my own desire to defend my "own"…even though we dont deserve defending. You have every right to be angry…hell, i am angry. See, more confusion.
Humph… that is why I am here. To bust down these walls and my own misconceptions. Thank you for helping me.
Any votes for Arod to come out? Hanging out with Madonna, into jewish mysticism, and those eyes. The first time I saw those eyes I thought to myself, "he's straight?".
Before you say that he's been married, so was someone I dated a long time ago. He had two kids. Through a series of tragic events the kids died, his father and father-in-law died, he got malaria, had a heart attack, and his wife divorced him while he was in the hospital. When asked why he didn't marry again he used his story as a cover. Arod could be using Madonna as a beard. People assume she's a homewrecker but maybe not.
Where are the photos from on this post and who are the players? Esp. that crotch grab one?? This can't be regular baseball can it?
And AlwaysGay, I'm kind of with EM on a couple points. Your post is kinda confusing to me to. For instance, you say if a Gay baseball player would come out, Gay men wouldn't support him. What exactly does that mean? Are all Gay men baseball fans? What precisely should we do as "Gay men" to support an out baseball player?
Gays worship heterosexuals? Is there data for such a position or is that your opinion? Now there is data that the anti gay bigot is very often Gay. A number of studies have shown the most anti-gay college guys have a lot of erectile response to Gay porno! Explain that one!
I'm not against you of course, and there is always some truth to the idea an opressed group is hardest on its own but it is not overarching as you suggest. I find there are mostly indifferent people in the world, quite a few who are self absorbed and if one is very lucky, you'll have several very good friends. I'm speaking of people in all "groups."
Check me on this: It seems to me that it would be easier for a football or basketball player to come out than a baseball player. Reason: In a football game or basketball game you're in the game with your teammates all the time. In a baseball game, there's that part when you're up to bat, all by yourself, center stage, vulnerable to boos and hisses from the crowd.
What about this?
Seems like a good point Chip.
@Jaroslaw: Think. The study you are referring to has been misrepresented. The researchers couldn't find any non-prejudiced HETEROSEXUAL males so they broke them up into moderately and extremely anti-gay. Both groups became fully erect when watching heterosexual and lesbian pornography, which proves they were HETEROSEXUAL because gay men don't get erections from lesbian porn. They then showed them gay porn, both became SLIGHTLY aroused but the extremely anti-gay group more so. Recent studies on sexuality has shown that heterosexual males because aroused twice as much by looking at gay male porn than do gay men looking at lesbian porn but no where close to getting full erections.
I don't have to look at data to know that gay people place heterosexuals on a pedestal. All I have to do is look at "gay" media; porn, magazines, books. At the GLAAD Media Awards the last and biggest award is given to a heterosexual. I know most gay people value heterosexuals more than gay people (just like heterosexuals).
Support a gay athlete by cheering him or her on. Encourage them to excel.
I would much rather a bisexual baseball player. "Gay" is too safe. The mainstream is more offended by male bisexuality, so to come out as a male bisexual is more challenging to society as a whole.
@jason: Ding ding ding!
I really dislike calls to come out of the closet. Rather you remain closeted or not is a personal choice and that choice is made for a variety of different reasons. That being said, if a gay sports star wanted to come out I have to be honest that I probably wouldn't support him not because he was gay, but because I simply don't like sports.
Baseball has more players who "ping" than any other sport, I think. Unfortunately, (and this is coming from someone who watches every Cubs game every season) it's also a very conservative sport. I imagine it would be more difficult to be an openly gay baseball player than, say, an openly gay soccer player, if only because baseball tries so hard to be a flag-waving "pastime."
Anyway, the Cubs bench seems to hold at least one adorable queer, and possibly two.
Hi! I live in PA in the area where Mike Piazza grew up and whether or not he is gay, and even though it's very close to Philly, I assume coming out is difficult for some in this area. Chester and Montgomery counties are both blue and white collar but we are close to the more Republican Lancaster County. I would love to hear how those from this area fared when coming out.
Football seems more appropriate, doesn't it?
The tight end puns practically write themselves.
okay, i know this isn't a baseball story, but…
i was walking through Philly before an eagles game against dallas. a bunch of kids walked by with their parents, headed to the game. the kids were all wearing "Romo's A Homo" tees.
this leads me to think that coming out as a pro athlete wouldn't just be harder than as an actor/musician, it might be downright dangerous. i mean, have you seen the fights they get into? and the crazy hooligan-fans?
if actors and musicians won't come out, i'm not holding my breath for athletes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, to the talking heads. But Jaroslaw and I still want to know if the posted pics are real baseball players, especially the crotch grabbing one? And if so, who are they?
And here is my two cents in the discussion of how some gays place straight men on a pedestal: It is most obvious when some gays want "straight acting" and "straight appearing" in their perfect mates. And the irony is that this is usually from the most effeminate among us! WTF?
Of course… the classic objection to having a gay teammate are the supposed discomforts of the locker room… so I've got to ask…
Why do athletes shower together?
No really. Is it just tradition? It has to be. It can't be because they get hot and sweaty…
Cuz hey, so do auto-mechanics. And steelworkers. And the guys who work the grill at my local burger joint. All hot, sweaty, and gross by the end of their day's work.
They don't shower together.
Is it because it promotes team camaraderie?
Well, I'm sure my office could use some better camaraderie while we attempt to tackle our tech issues and survive the economic downfall. But even though my company could certainly afford it, we don't shower together.
Is it because… in sports… like in gymnasiums, the shower is just part of the athletic experience?
Probably. And, like my gym, it's probably just time to install separate shower and change rooms. People have got to start thinking outside the box.
Team sports have nothing to do with showers, or the gay men inside them.
Ian Roberts is classic example that it can work. He came out while still in the peak of his career. He was one of the big stars of Rugby League at the time. True he was so out and blatant about it he coundn't stay in the closet much longer but you know what a lot of people respect him for what he did. That said most people never dissed him on the field for being gay. Have you seen the size of the bastard? FUCKING HUGE!!! He would flatten you without even breaking a sweat.
#15 Always Gay – There have been several studies, not just one; I don't have the names or places in front of me but the ones I read about were not showing the results as summarized by you.
If an anti-gay guy watches Gay porn and he is in theory disgusted by that activity I can't imagine why he would get a partial or full erection (in the studies I read, they got full erections). It should not arouse him but you say is should. Why? Alternately, Gay guys are aroused by het porn because they are concentrating on the (usually) very good looking, endowed straigh GUY. No mystery here.
As to het worship – your welcome to your observations – and you may even be correct. But tell me specifics – eg. are you saying 90% (or a preponderance) of the covers of Gay magazines feature straights? Most of the stories in Gay media are about straight people? I don't see this. Further, unless my understanding of history is incorrect, no minority group advanced by not trying to build bridges and allies in the main culture.
Perhaps I have a very different circle of Gay friends – but I don't know any who are NOT supportive of Gay athletes. Most everyone I know is thrilled and proud when someone comes out who is attractive, smart, a leader in their field. Why wouldn't they be? Anything that dispels stereotypes is a plus in my book.
@Jaroslaw: You don't know what you are talking about. There has only been one study on penis response to gay porn by anti-gay bigots.
89% of Attitude magazine (a supposed gay magazine) covers are of heterosexuals.
I personally don't want an athlete to come out as gay if he is in fact bisexual. It would be dishonest. Yes, I'd love for a player to come out as either, but only so long as it's an honest self-appraisal.
#27 – I read a lot – and everything that has been studied or referenced is not on the internet. I know there has been more than one study about response to Gay porn by bigots. Name the study since you are so sure there is only one and I'll research over the w/e and get back to you.
And anyone – – – Queerty? Where are these photos from and who are they?
@Bitch, please!: I don't usually agree with you but I'm next to you on that. I, myself, am a masc guy. I'm not straight acting I'm a man's man. I find it funny when you see looking for straight acting only and then you meet then and they are far from straight acting; more like "S" nothing straight about them. I like manly men. I once dated a basketball player from chicago and we would meet up in hotels or I'll travel to a game. know one knows that he is gay. and he is terrified that someone may find out. He dates women. I'm like his boy out in public. He said he will never come out because of the things they say do act in the locker room if they suspect you are gay. You can support the gay players if they come out. but the day to day life of an athlete is not fun. If you have a team of 20 and you are the only out one. Guess what. tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are. Even if some were gay they would not want to be caught dead with him cause it's guilty by association. It's hard when you have homophobes as team mates, Endorsement deals, family to deal with, being ridiculed by fans, Going some where and hearing the dreadful word, "Faggot". Would you want to go through all of that just to please the gay society and come out? I think not. it's easier said than done. I'm still not out at work. I'm out too all my friends but I've been working the same job for 5 years and no on knows my business. It should matter who I sleep with as long as I get the job done. And the first player to come out while still playing or under contract should know that it will be a slippery road up hill. So weigh the pros and cons not everyone can come out or had the support some of you had coming out. I still talk to him we don't don't really hang like we use too. but I got an in dept behind the scene real life closeted gay athlete and I felt and still fell sorry for him cause every story he told and tells his teammates about sex he has to lie and say she was hot instead of me (lol) or he was hot. I'm sure that out of 20 guys 4 of them are gay or have had gay experiences. but will they fess up? No. For some reason (some of us know) that the minute you tell a straight guy you are gay or they find out. they automatically think that you are less of a man and they are more of a man than you are. Or think you want to jump in bed with them. So it's harder than you think. it's not high school or your parents. It's being exposed to the world. When most of you came out you told whoever. Sorry to say but you didn't make the 6 o'clock news or sports center, or the Daily News that you are out. Some of you won't care and may love the publicity but when you work in the public eye they want nothing more than to see you raise and fall even faster.
@Jaroslaw: Is homophobia associated with homosexual arousal? by Henry Adams, Lester Wright, Jr., and Bethany Lohr
Men can become aroused when they are anxious. That is another possibility of why heterosexual males have a much larger arousal to gay male porn than gay men do to lesbian porn.
You see, what makes this so incredibly funny to me is that when one of the minor league baseball stars came out (maybe Billy Bean), my pastor at the time (of a Baptist spin off church) said in the middle of his church that he would go gay for the dude. My pastor is married with children, but he has always been a very awesome guy, but I will never forget that conversation. It was quite refreshing.
@Andramata: While I appreciate your response and you agreeing with me "this one time", I am not sure that I said anything about the tribulations of coming out as a famous person. I agree that while my coming out may not make the six 'o clock news but, for many like me, it is challenging enough within our own, "nondescript", circle of family and friends. Unlike our rich and famous counterparts, many out gays still have to trudge on in a hostile homophobic environment, but, now, without the support of family and friends. They don't get plaques for their "bravery for coming out", in fancy dinner parties and what not. So really, each has their own set of problems and none is easier, at least not yet.
@Bitch, please!: I actually got lucky. My best friend at the time I came out was very supportive and came out himself about six months later. My brother has been very supportive the last 4-5 years. My father just never wanted to talk about my homosexuality, but he was very supportive of everything I actually did. My mom still thinks I can be "turned straight," and she will probably always think that. I'm sure you don't care though. I don't blame you. My point is that even in small town middle America (in my case Ohio), you would be surprised at the very different experiences received when coming out. In contrast, my best friend never really did come out to his parents as far as I'm aware, even though his mother asked him if he was gay and he told her he wasn't.
Mike Piazza should have come out of the closet. Instead, he chose to pay women to trumpet his heterosexuality. He even had a press conference. I don't think you need gaydar to know what that means…
It's sad to hear of the difficulties faced by those coming out to family and friends, and dgz, Andramata, and Bitch, please all touched on the fact that the public makes it harder for athletes coming out. I know, dgz, fans in Philly can be very crude and make extremely homophobic remarks to athletes.
Always Gay – I hate to concede – but I guess you're right, at least with the limited time I've had to do research. There was only one arousal study done. Amazing. Unfortunately I can type really fast and have limited access to the net – what I was really driving at was homophobic men are very often closeted, or latent Gays themselves (to be clear, I mean guys who are Gay that don't want to admit it to themselves) in my opinion. Alas, upon further examination it seems even these studies show mixed results, disputed methodologies etc.
However, having said all that, I don't know how even a professor of homophobia could say so much is "disputable." (one actually responded to my e-mail) – our society is so homophobic, boys have to walk and talk a certain way, etc. etc. "REAL men do or don't do this or that…" Yet so many societies over the centuries have actually had homosexual rituals, puberty things etc. incorporated into their growing up processes it is hard for me to believe that men in our society have no latent urges. Not saying this right, but I think you get the idea.
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Not since Pippa gave us an eyeful of her "London Derrière" during William and Kate's spring Royal nuptials have the world's eyes been so keenly focused on the British Empire's ancient capital. The 2012 Olympic Games are a chance for London—the 2,000-year-old City-on-the-Thames—to captivate the 4 BILLION people—out of a total world population of 7 billion—who are expected to watch the games. Never mind the 4 million who are expected to descend upon the city for London 2012. (as of last week, 7 MILLION tickets for events had actually been sold).
A total cast of 15,000 will take part in the London 2012 Opening and Closing Ceremonies. Scheduled entertainers include Russell Brand, who is set to perform a comedy version of the Sex Pistols' "Pretty Vacant," as well The Beatles' "I Am The Walrus." Koo-koo-ka-choo.
Live musical performances are scheduled to include Queen—which will perform "We Will Rock You" with Jessie J. and its late lead singer, Freddie Mercury, who will appear as a digital projection—Take That, Annie Lennox, George Michael, The Kinks' Ray Davies, The Pet Shop Boys, and 1980s British ska band Madness, which will perform their hit "Our House"–a song that rocked Buckingham Palace –and, we hope, Her Majesty—last month during the Queen's Diamond Jubilee extravaganza.
A tribute to British fashion will feature supermodels Kate Moss, Naomi Campbell, Stella Tennant, Lily Cole and Georgia Jagger.
The Opening Ceremony showcases the best that the Host Nation has to offer. It features a parade of the competing nations, and the highly-anticipated entrance of the Olympic Flame, which is passed through the athletes to the final Torchbearer, who ceremoniously lights the Cauldron, signaling the start of the Games. The Flame will continue to burn for the entirety of the Games.
The Parade of Athletes features a procession of 10,000 athletes, representing the 204 nations that are competing in the 2012 Games. (Teams enter in alphabetical order, according to the language of the Host Country—except for the Greek team, which enters first for the Olympics, and the team of the Host Nation, in this case, Team Great Britain, which marches in last.)
Once the Games have been declared open, the Olympic Anthem will be played, and the Olympic Flag will be unfurled horizontally, carried into the Stadium, and flown from its place of prominence and honor.
A member of Team Great Britain will intone the words of the Olympic Oath. The athlete—holding a corner of the Olympic Flag in his left hand, and raising his right hand—will say, "In the name of all the competitors, I promise that we shall take part in these Olympic Games, respecting and abiding by the rules which govern them, committing ourselves to a sport without doping and without drugs, in the true spirit of sportsmanship, for the glory of sport and the honor of our teams."
NBC plans to stream all 32 sports events live online, at nbcolympics.com.
Olympics Tickets Will Generate Over $1 Billion in Revenue.
ATTENDEES 16 years old and younger PAY THEIR AGE in British Pounds for a Ticket.
$457: "Premium" Ticketholders Enjoy a Four-Course Lunch, Champagne Reception, and Open Bar at the $11.6 Million London 2012 Hospitality Pavillion.
$31: Opening Session Table Tennis Ticket.
$232: Equestrian Jumping Finals Ticket.
$698: Men's Gymnastics Finals Ticket
$3,119: Opening and Closing Ceremonies Ticket
2/3 …of all unsold Tickets are for Soccer.
$31,000 …fine for Criminal Scalping and Price Gouging.
7 MILLION …Number of Tickets sold as of last week.***
Keep your eye on these athletes while they keep their eyes on the Gold:
LeBron James, 27 (Basketball) The Miami Heat guard/forward was the number one NBA draft pick in 2003 at the age of 18. With his help, the U.S. took home the gold at the 2008 Beijing Games.
Missy Franklin, 17 (Swimming) The first-time Olympian broke the American record during the 2012 U.S. Swim Trials.
Katie Hoff, 22 (Swimming) Known as the "female Michael Phelps," she won gold at the 2011 World Aquatic Championships, and medals in 2004 in Athens and in 2008 in Beijing.
Ryan Lochte, 27 (Swimming) Six-time Olympic medalist—specializing in the backstroke and individual medley—won the World Swimmer of the Year Award, and American Swimmer of the Year twice.
Michael Phelps, 26 (Swimming) 14-time Olympic gold medalist and one of the most successful athletes in the 2004 and 2008 Games. London 2012 is likely be his last Olympics.
Rebecca Soni, 25 (Swimming) A three-time Olympic medalist, she holds the world record for the 100m and the 200m breast stroke (short course).
Terrence Jones, 25 (Taekwondo) He defeated reigning Olympic silver-medalist Mark Lopez during trials, earning a place on the U.S. team.
Steven Lopez, 23 (Taekwondo) Two-time Olympic gold medalist, he is also the first Taekwondo fighter to win five world championships, learning the sport in his garage when he was 5 years old. Siblings Mark, Diana and Jean are also Olympians, and were team-mates at the 2008 Beijing Games.
Serena Williams, 30 (Tennis) She dominated Wimbledon this year, and she and sister, Venus, are likely to score big in Jolly Old England.
Tyson Gay, 30 (Track and Field) The former world record-holder in the men's 100m sprint—before Usain Bolt broke it—he is a three-time winner at the World Outdoor Championships, but has never won an Olympic event.
Ryan Hall, 29 (Track and Field) The first American runner to break one-hour in the half-marathon, he posted the fastest marathon time—ever—by an American during the Boston Marathon.
…and other International Stars Who Are Likely to Shine:
AUSTRALIA: Matthew Mitcham, 24 (Diving) The openly-gay—and openly-hot—Mitcham is a 2008 Olympic gold medalist, and the first Australian to win a gold medal in diving since 1924. Johnson & Johnson's Athlete Family Support Program sponsored Mitcham's boyfriend to attend the 2008 Beijing Games. (And did I mention that smile?)
CHINA: Du Li, 30 (Shooting) She and sports-shooter husband, Pang Wei, have a house full of medals. True story: on opening day of the 2008 Beijing Games, Du Li gave birth to their son.
FRANCE: Teddy Riner, 23 (Judo) Also known as "Teddy Bear," the 6'8", 306-pound Judo champ is the first judoka to have won five world titles. Although he brought home the bronze in 2008 Beijing Games, he has yet to touch the Olympic gold.
GERMANY: Peter Joppich, 29 (Fencing) Considered among the world's best foil fencers, he won his first world championship when he was 21.
GREAT BRITAIN: Tom Daley, 17 (Diving) Daley was 13 years old when he became the youngest competitor to participate in a final, representing Britain at the 2008 Beijing Games. He started diving at 7, and won the 2009 FINA World Championship at 15, followed by two gold medals at the 2010 Commonwealth Games.
IRAN: Sara Khoshjamal Fekri, 24 (Taekwondo) The first Iranian woman to qualify and compete in the Olympics for taekwondo.
JAMAICA: Usain Bolt, 25 (Track and Field) "Lightning" Bolt is—without question—the fastest man in the world. A five-time World and three-time Olympic gold medalist, he holds the current record for the 100 and 200 meter races.
JAPAN: Kohei Uchimura, 23 (Gymnastics) The Olympic silver medalist made history in October 2011, becoming the first gymnast to win three consecutive all-around world titles. As they say in Japanese, 熱い! ("Hot!")
RUSSIA: Ekaterina Gamova, 31 (Volleyball) At 6'8," Gamova is one of the world's tallest female athletes. She is also the world's highest-paid female volleyball player, playing the net for as much as 1.5 million Euros.
SCOTLAND: Christopher Hoy, 35 (Track Cycling) Make that "Sir" Chris (the Scottish-born Hoy was knighted in 2009). A three-gold-medal-winner at the 2008 Beijing Games, he is the first Brit to win three gold medals in a single Olympic game since 1908, and the most successful Olympic male cyclist of all time.
SOUTH KOREA: Im Dong-Hyun, 25 (Archery) His eyesight—20/200!—is so bad, that he's considered legally blind, but he is widely held to be the world's best archer. A two-time Olympic gold medalist (2004 Athens, 2008 Beijing) who does not wear corrective glasses or contacts during competition, and has refused offers of free eye surgery to improve his vision, he will attempt to earn his third Olympic gold medal in London.
The Road to Rio
The London 2012 Olympics Closing Ceremony on August 12 will include a Handover of the Olympic Flag by London Mayor Boris Johnson to Mayor Eduardo Paes of Rio de Janeiro, the host city of 2016 Summer Olympics. At the Closing Ceremony, the 10,000 competing athletes march together, instead of by nationality, a tradition that began at the Melbourne 1956 Olympic Games as a way to bring the athletes of the world together as "one global nation."
Three national flags are hoisted, to the accompaniment of the respective national anthems: the flag of Greece to honor the birthplace of the ancient Olympic Games, the flag of the Host Nation (Great Britain), and the flag of the country hosting the next Summer Olympic Games (Brazil). Following the parade of athletes, the Victory Ceremony will feature highlights footage of the previous two weeks' Games. Tickets to the closing ceremony are still available—with prices in the $2,282, $1,513, and $996 range, for an event its producer describes as "the biggest after-show party – the show being the sport."
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(Children OF). (Ezra 2:55,58; Nehemiah 7:57,60) The persons thus named appear in the lists of the exiles who returned from the captivity. They were the descendants of the Canaanites who were reduced by Solomon to the helot state, and compelled to labor in the king's stone-quarries and in building his palaces and cities. (1 Kings 5:13,14; 9:20,21; 2 Chronicles 8:7,8) They appear to have formed a distinct order, inheriting probably the same functions and the same skill as their ancestors.
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The victim told authorities that her father also groped her while she was taking a shower, the complaint said.
The 22nd Street man appeared in Central Judicial Processing court in Jersey City yesterday afternoon via video link from Hudson County jail in Kearny.
Bail was set at $150,000, cash or bond, by Hudson County Superior Court Judge Paul DePascale prior to the man's CJP hearing.
The Union City man is charged with aggravated sexual assault, sexual assault, endangering the welfare of a child and child abuse, the complaint states. His name is being withheld to protect the identity of the victim.
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PISCATAWAY - SNY, the exclusive television home of Rutgers football, will encore the 2008 Papajohns.com Bowl in its entirety Wednesday at 7 p.m.
Rutgers (8-5, 5-2 BIG EAST) ended the season with its seventh consecutive victory as the Scarlet Knights defeated North Carolina State 29-23 in the Papajohns.com Bowl Monday afternoon at Legion Field in Birmingham, Ala. The seven straight victories to close out the season tied for the fourth-longest win streak to end a season in school history.
Rutgers won a bowl game for the third consecutive season with the 29-23 victory over the Wolfpack. The Scarlet Knights won the 2006 Texas Bowl (37-10 vs. Kansas State) and the 2008 International Bowl (52-30 vs. Ball State). All-time, Rutgers is 3-2 in postseason play.


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WEST WINDSOR — History and reputation can go a long way even when the torch hasn't just been passed but has burned out.
When people talk about the Mercer County American Legion baseball league, they still want to talk about Hamilton Post 31 even after they beat them rather easily.
Allentown beat Hamilton Post 31, 7-2, last night in the first game played on the beautiful new Mercer County Park Field No. 2. The win raised Allentown's record to 8-3 on the season and kept them in a good battle with South Brunswick and Broad St. Park for second place behind first-place and undefeated Bordentown.
"To beat a team like Hamilton, with their tradition is a good win," Allentown manager Brett Miller said. "They play the right way, so when you can come in and beat them like this it's just great."
Hamilton, under manager Rick Freeman, dominated the MCALL for a long time, winning 11 straight league titles and 13 of 15. The last one came in 2010, and truth be told Hamilton hasn't been quite the same since.
Last night's loss dropped Post 31 to 7-5, which is tied for fifth place with Robbinsville. Since the MCALL is letting eight of its 14 teams advance to the state tournament, Hamilton will qualify but it's chances of winning another league title is all but finished.
Still they command respect from the opponent.
"It's great to beat them," Allentown's Bobby Gramer, who scored two runs and drove in another last night, said. "We have kind of a rivalry going with them. They (Steinert High) beat us in high school, knocked us out of the states and they beat us in a one-run game earlier this year. So beating them tonight was nice.
"We're pretty good too. We have some talent here. The sky is the limit for us."
Allentown broke open a 2-1 game with two runs in the bottom of the third on sacrifice flies by Gramer and Mark Duffy, added another run in the fourth and two more in the fifth.
That was plenty of run support for Allentown ace Tom Malik, who won for the fourth time without a loss this season and is putting his name in the mix for the league's Pitcher of the Year race.
Malik who admittedly wasn't at his best, allowed just an unearned run in the first and held Hamilton to just three singles trough six innings.
The author of a perfect game earlier this season, Malik over the course of 25 innings this summer has allowed just one earned run.
"I don't want to brag, but I think my stats match up with any pitcher in the league," the Allentown rising senior said.
Malik wasn't bragging either when he decided he was on the better team. Allentown's three losses this year have been the one-run decision to Hamilton, which was avenged; a one-run loss to Hopewell; and a loss to Bordentown.
"Honestly, if you compare us guy for guy, I think we're better. I think we have the more talented team. I mean they're good, I just think we're playing very well. If we play like we did tonight we can beat anyone, maybe even Bordentown."
Hamilton (7-5) 001 000 1— 2 4 4
Allentown (8-3) 022 120 x—7 6 1
RBI: H— Weingartner, Peroni. A— Fernicola, Duffy, Gramer, Marsicano, Smith, Ruetsch.
WP — Malik (4-0). LP — Francioso (2-1).


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The Hamilton County Board of Supervisors revealed the design for a new memorial that will pay tribute to all Hamilton County veterans, and especially those who served in the Red Bull Division.
The memorial will be placed in a grassy area between Red Bull Division Drive, which runs past the south side of the courthouse, and Hospital Drive, which intersects with Red Bull Division Drive. A dedication will be held on May 23 at 10 a.m., according to Supervisor Doug Bailey.
"The groundwork started last week," he said. "We'll be holding the dedication Friday of Memorial Day weekend."
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Hamilton County Supervisor Doug Bailey discusses the design for the new Red Bull Division memorial that will be dedicated on May 23. The memorial will be situated east of the county courthouse just off of Red Bull Division Drive and Hospital Drive. The roadway was named for the famous military division which has rich ties to Webster City and Hamilton County.
This graphic shows the planned Red Bull memorial in detail.
The monument, which is being built by Tim Adams of Stony Creek Landscapes, features the Red Bull Division insignia, along with the words, "To all who have helped carry the torch of freedom we honor and thank you, and pledge to remember your sacrifice and service."
"The text is really addressed to all veterans of Hamilton County," Bailey said. "The seals of each branch of military service will be featured at the bottom of the monument."
Four panels will be placed alongside the memorial. Two of the panels will contain the history of the Red Bull Division of Co. E, the National Guard company that was located in at the Webster City armory.
"This was the point of entry for all Hamilton County guardsmen," Bailey said.
The other two panels will feature a history of citizen soldiers from Hamilton County, ranging back to 1857 and the group for the Spirit Lake massacre, all the way up to current times, following all the various wars and conflicts.
Bailey said the Red Bull Division is still an active division and noted that several Hamilton County residents were part of that division in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Board Chairman Wes Sweedler said that the idea for the memorial came while the street with the same name was built around the time Van Diest Medical Center was being built.
"With the naming, something like this has been in the works for several years. We've had many different ideas and finally settled on this local design, produced and built locally," he said. "It's going to be a fitting and long-lasting memorial for all Hamilton County service people."
The exterior of the monument will be made of brushed stainless steel and the lettering is cut into the stainless steel and will be backlit. The insignia will feature layers of stainless steel. The structure is about 8-feet-wide and 13-feet-tall. Bailey said the project was bid out and Adams turned in the winning bid.
A sidewalk will lead up from the courthouse parking lot so those visiting the memorial will be able to get a close look.
Bailey said a speaker from Red Bull Division headquarters will be present at the dedication as will Rev. Mike Willer, who served had served in the division and took part in the street dedication several years ago.
"I think this is a really fitting, attractive sight that will be very noticeable as people come into Webster City," said Supervisor David Young.


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2012 APIAHP Forum: Safeguarding and Sharing Our Stories
By National Trust Staff | From Forum Bulletin | August 30, 2012 |
Their stories are compelling, heartbreaking, and inspiring, and Asian Pacific Islanders have joined forces to tell their collective history and preserve the historic places that tell the story of their experiences in America.
In 2010 more than 100 individuals attended the first biennial Asian Pacific Islander American Historic Preservation Forum in San Francisco, Calif. It attracted a variety of groups with a range of experiences, from new grassroots community efforts to projects over 30 years in the making. The theme of the first Forum was "Preserving Asian Pacific Islander America: Mobilizing Our Community." And mobilize it did. Attendees gained a sense of purpose and energy, and--most importantly--they left with a shared idea of the role of preservation in the Asian Pacific Islander community.
Participants agreed to embrace preservation efforts that include the tangible and the intangible, along with various cultural art forms, traditions, language, associations, businesses, stories, food, festivals and all other activities that help to define these place-based ethnic communities. They further resolved to identify and protect places whose historic meaning for the APIA communities has been veiled by time, but can be revealed by new efforts to document and educate.
A second forum was held this past spring in Los Angeles. Bill Watanabe, APIA HP Forum Steering Committee Chair, noted that the conference attracted a "wider range of attendees…many of whom presented a diversity of historic preservation projects during the workshop periods. We were also able to have better representation from other Asian American communities such as Thai American and Sikh American."
The theme for this year's forum—Safeguarding and Sharing Our American Stories—was designed to propel the conversation forward and get attendees to share their stories of mobilization and preservation. In addition to information-sharing and networking, the second conference went further by providing snapshots of the current preservation landscape: some of the latest techniques being used, who some of the players are at various levels, the shifting national scope, and how APIA preservationists could interact within those various arenas.
Working with Asian American Communities
Judy Lee, from The Save Our Chinatown Committee (Riverside, Calif.) notes that there are many lessons that preservationists can take away from APIA preservation, most of which are applicable to the preservation of ethnic minority heritage. For example:
- Preservationists should understand that there are a variety of APIA groups, each with their own stories, all linked with a common thread, that of immigrant groups arrivals and settlement.
- Culture, community, and place are closely tied together. A sense of place is critical, whether it is a place that contains a current community, a place that has experienced a succession of groups living in the same neighborhood,or a place that no longer contains people from those ethnic groups living there or any buildings left from that community.
- A sense of place can be important for what it literally is, or as a representation for the concept of APIA presence at a given time in a specific place, or what it represents for a sense of belonging.
- Not only is digital content an important component for historic preservation, online relationships can be crucial for the APIA community. Sometimes online is the only space that APIAs can claim as their own. This life can be more valid than that of the material world, oftentimes a world more easily controlled by others than by themselves.
Hugh Rowland, executive liaison at the California Historical Society also encourages preservationists to continue "to pursue efforts to increase inclusion among America's officially recognized historic places of sites associated with the contributions and achievements of, and challenges faced by, the nation's Asian Pacific Island American citizens. Although some of the sites may be less than grand, invariably the stories are touching and inspiring. Preservationists need to become better 'listeners' as to where community is found, fostered, and sustained."
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Sant'Alvise is a church in the sestiere of Cannaregio in Venice, northern Italy. According to tradition, it was built by Antonia Venier in 1338 and dedicated to St. Louis of Toulouse, and located next to an adjacent convent.
The brick exterior and facade do not reflect the rich interior. It has a single nave, the current appearance dating from the 17th century restoration. The ceiling was entirely frescoed by Pietro Antonio Torri and Pietro Ricchi in the same period.
To the right of the entrance are two canvases by Pietro della Vecchia depicting Theft of the body of St. Mark and The Saracens refuse to inspect the basket with the body of St. Mark, made as cartoons for mosaic decoration of St. Mark's Basilica. These are followed by a St. Louis consecrated bishop of Toulouse (Louis of Toulouse) attributed to Pietro Damini. Further along the right wall and in the presbytery are three large works by Giambattista Tiepolo, in order: Christ Reaching the Calvary, the Coronation of Thorns, and the Flagellation.
To the left of the entrance are small 15th-century tempera panels by Lazzaro Bastiani, depicting stories of Old Testament. It also contains a Portrait of a priest (1420) by Jacobello del Fiore. The first altar to the left has three statues attributed to Gianmaria Morlaiter. The last altar to the left has an Annunciation and Saints Augustine and Alvise by followers of Bonifacio de' Pitati. On the left wall of the presbytery is a Christ in the Garden by Angelo Trevisani.
Statue of St. Louis of Toulouse
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