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This Chess opening involves the first move c4, (called The English Opening because a group of English players in around the 1890's often played it, including Howard Staunton), it is played as one of the main opening choices for white- an alternative to d4(Queen's Pawn Opening) or e4(King's Pawn Opening).
Most positions in this opening are positional in nature rather than the more tactical nature of other openings because white is preparing an attack on the flank, and often fianchettos his bishop with moves such as g3 and bg2 in order to attack a black central pawn mass.
An early d5 is the most critical reply by Black otherwise he can lose control of the d5 square and thus be on the defensive.
The main lines are the Symmetrical English- 1 c4 c5, 2 Nf3 Nc6, 3 Nc3 Nf6, 4 g3 g6 etc. or the English Four Knights- 1 c4 e5, 2 Nc3 Nf6, 3 Nf3 Nc6, 4 g3 when like i said d5 is blacks best reply.
Watch out if you're a nimzo-indian player and like to play e6, Nf6 and Bb4 as black because the Mikenas-Flohr Variation of 1 c4 e6, 2 Nc3 Nf6, 3 e4 has quite a sting to it. Other lines for white include The Botvinnik System with the kings knight on e2 and an early fianchetto eg 1 c4 e5, 2 g3 Nf6, 3 Bg2 Nc6, 4 Nc3 g6, 5 e4 Bg7, 6 Nge2 with the posibility of d4 or f4 or even d3 and f4. Another posible line this time for Black is 1 c4 e5, 2 g3 nf6 and 3 Bg2 c6 of The Keres System.
Traps for white include an early b6 when white's bishop is already on g2, white can sacrifice in such a position eg see diagram
, and an early attack on the f3 knight by 1.c4 e5, 2.Nc3 Nf6, 3.Nf3 e4?! this is called The English Three Knights and a move such as Ng5 shows the uncorrectness of Blacks strategy.
A trap for Black leading to mate is a move order such as The Korchnoi Variation which is 1.c4 e5, 2.Nc3 Nf6, 3.Nf3 Nc6, 4.g3 Nd4!?, 5.Nxe5?! Qe7, 6.Nf3?? Nxf3+mate.
Other main lines not mentioned are the Kramnik-Shirov Counter Attack, Grand Prix Attack, Rubeinstein Variation and Keres-Parma Variation.
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The English Opening is the opening where White begins 1.c4.
A flank opening, it is the fourth most popular[1][2] and, according to various databases, anywhere from one of the two most successful[1] to the fourth most successful[3] of White's twenty possible first moves. White begins the fight for the center by staking a claim to the d5 square from the wing, in hypermodern style. Although many lines of the English have a distinct character, the opening is often used as a transpositional device in much the same way as 1.Nf3 - to avoid such highly-regarded responses to 1.d4 as theNimzo-Indian and Grünfeld defences, and is considered reliable and flexible.
The English derives its name from the English (unofficial) world champion, Howard Staunton, who played it during his 1843 match with Saint-Amant and London 1851, the first international tournament.[4] It did not inspire Staunton's contemporaries, and only caught on in the twentieth century.[4] It is now recognised as a solid opening that may be used to reach both classical and hypermodern positions. Mikhail Botvinnik, Tigran Petrosian, Anatoly Karpov, and Garry Kasparov all employed it during their world championship matches. Bobby Fischer created a stir when he switched to it from his hitherto almost universal 1.e4 late in his career, employing it against Lev Polugaevskyand Oscar Panno at the Palma de Mallorca Interzonal in 1970 and in his 1972 world championship match against Boris Spassky.
White can play 2.d4, thereby transposing to an Indian defence, which is usually reached by 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4, after which Black may play 2...e6 (see 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6), or black may play 2...g6 (see 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6). Also white can play 2.Nf3. Then black may play 2...e6 for English (A13, see 1.c4 Nf6 2.Nf3 e6). This can lead to Queen's Gambit Declined (D37), Queen's Indian (E12), or Symmetrical Variation (A30). Or black may play 2...g6 for English (A15, see 1.c4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6). This can lead to King's Indian Defense (E60), King's Indian, Orthodox (E94), King's Indian (E92), or English (A15). Also white can play 2.Nc3. Then black may play 2...e5 for English (A28, see 1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 e5). This can lead to English (A28), Old Indian, Ukrainian Variation, 4.Nf3 (A54), or English (A22). Or black may play 2...e6 for English (A17, see 1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 e6). This can lead to Nimzo-Indian, Classical (E32), Queen's Gambit Declined (D35), Symmetrical Variation (A30), or Queen's Gambit Declined (D37).
White can play 2.Nc3. Then Black may play 2...Nf6 (given above). Or Black may play 2...Nc6 for English (A25, see 1.c4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6). This can lead to English (A25), English (A22), or English (A20). Also white can play 2.g3. Then black may play 2...Nf6 for English (A20, see 1.c4 e5 2.g3 Nf6). This can lead to English (A22) or English (A20). Or black may play 2...Nc6 for English (A25, see 1.c4 e5 2.g3 Nc6). This can lead to English (A25), English (A22), or English (A20).
White can play 2.d4, which is usually reached by 1.d4 e6 2. c4 so see Queen's Pawn Game. Then black may play 2...Nf6 (see 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6), or black may play 2...d5 (see 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6). Also white can play 2.Nf3. Then black may play 2...Nf6 (given above). Or black may play 2...d5 for English (A13, see 1.c4 e6 2.Nf3 d5). This can lead to Queen's Gambit Declined (D37), Queen's Gambit Declined (D30), or English (A13). Also white can play 2.Nc3. Then black may play 2...Nf6 (given above). Or black may play 2...d5 for Queen's Gambit Declined (D31, see 1.c4 e6 2.Nc3 d5). This can lead to Queen's Gambit Declined (D35) or Queen's Gambit Declined (D31).
White can play 2.Nf3. Then black may play 2...Nf6 for Symmetrical Variation (A30, see 1.Nf3 c5 2.c4 Nf6). This can lead to Symmetrical Variation (A30), Symmetrical Variation (A35), Queen's Pawn Game (E10), or Symmetrical Variation, Benoni Formation (A31). Or black may play 2...Nc6 for Réti Opening (A04, see 1.Nf3 c5 2.c4 Nc6). This can lead to Symmetrical Variation (A35), Reti Opening (A04), or Symmetrical Variation (A33). Also white can play 2.Nc3. Then black may play 2...Nf6 for Symmetrical Variation (A34, see 1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6). This can lead to Symmetrical Variation (A30), Symmetrical Variation (A35), or Symmetrical Variation (A34). Or black may play 2...Nc6 for English (A36, see 1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nc6). This can lead to Symmetrical Variation (A35), Reti Opening (A04), English (A36), or English (A34).
White can play 2.d4, which is usually reached by 1.d4 g6 2.c4 so see Queen's Pawn Game. Then black may play 2...Nf6 (see 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6), or black may play 2...Bg7 (see 1.d4 g6 2.c4 Bg7). Also white can play 2.Nc3. Then black may play 2...Nf6 for English (A16, see 1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 g6). This can lead to King's Indian Defense (E97), Grünfeld Defense (D85), King's Indian (E95), or English (A15). Or black may play 2...Bg7 for English (A10, see 1.c4 g6 2.Nc3 Bg7). This can lead to King's Indian Defense (E97), Modern Defense, Averbakh System (A42), English (A16), or English (A36). Also white can play 2.Nf3. Then black may play 2...Nf6 (given above). Or black may play 2...c5 for Réti Opening (A04, see 1.c4 c5 2.Nf3 g6). This can lead to Reti Opening (A04) or Sicilian, Accelerated Fianchetto (B36).
White can play 2.e4, which is usually reached by 1.e4 c6 2.c4 so see Caro-Kann Defense. Then black may play 2...d5 (see 1.e4 c6 2.c4 d5), or black may play 2...e5 (see 1.e4 c6 2.c4 e5). Also white can play 2.d4. Then black may play 2...d5 for Slav Defense (D10, see 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6). This can lead to Slav Defense (D15), Queen's Gambit Declined (D30), Slav Defense (D10), or Queen's Gambit Declined (D31). Or black may play 2...Nf6 for Slav Defense (D15, see 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c6). This can lead to Slav Defense (D15) or Slav Defense (D10).
If White plays an early d4, the game will usually transpose into either the Queen's Gambit or an Indian defence. For example, after 1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 g6 3.d4 d5 the game has transposed into the Grünfeld Defence, usually reached by the move order 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5.
Note, however, that White can also play 1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 g6 3.e4, making it impossible for Black to reach a Grünfeld, instead more or less forcing him into lines of the King's Indian Defence with 3...d6. Black also cannot force a Grünfeld with 1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 d5, since White can deviate with 3.cxd5 Nxd5 4.g3, a line played several times by Mikhail Botvinnik in 1958, in his final match for the world championship withVasily Smyslov.
Instead of playing an early d4, White can also play Nf3 and fianchetto the king's bishop (g3 and Bg2), transposing into a Reti Opening.
Also, after 1.c4 c6, white can transpose into the Polish Opening, Outflank Variation, by playing 2.b4!?, which can be used as a surprise weapon if Black does not know very much about the Polish Opening.[5]
The many different transpositional possibilities available to White make the English a slippery opening for Black to defend against, and make it necessary for him to consider carefully what move order to employ. For instance, if Black would like to play a Queen's Gambit Declined, the most accurate move order to do so is 1...e6 2.d4 d5. (Of course, White can again play the Reti instead with 2.Nf3 d5 3.b3.) If Black plays instead 1...Nf6 2.Nc3 e6, White can avoid the QGD by playing 3.e4.
Opening theoreticians who write on the English Opening break the opening down into three broad categories, generally determined by Black, who selects one of three types of defensive setups. These include the Symmetrical Defense (classified A30s in ECO), which is 1...c5, and is so named because both of the c-pawns are advanced two squares, maintaining symmetry. Note that Black can reach the Symmetrical Defense through many move orders by playing a delayed ...c5, and in fact often does. For example, 1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 (or 2.Nf3) c5 is a Symmetrical Defense even though Black played ...c5 on move two.
Another broad category of defence Black can choose against the English Opening is called the Reverse(d) Sicilian (classified A20s in ECO), which is introduced by the response 1...e5. Note again, that Black can delay playing ...e5, for example 1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.Nf3 e5 whereupon even though ...e5 has been delayed, once it is played the defence is classified as a Reverse Sicilian.
The third broad category are the non-...e5 and non-...c5 responses, classified A10s in ECO. Most often these defences consist of ...Nf6, ...e6, and ...d5 or ...Bb4 systemic responses by Black, or a Slav-like system consisting of ...c6 and ...d5, a direct King's Indian Defense setup with ...Nf6, ...g6, ...Bg7, ...0-0, after which ...c5 and ...e5 are eschewed, or 1...f5, which usually transposes to a Dutch Defense once White plays d4. All irregular responses such as 1...b6 and 1...g5 are also lumped into this third broad category.
Common responses include:[1]
The Encyclopaedia of Chess Openings has classified the English Opening under the codes A10 through A39:
you copied article 2 from wikipedia, right? :)
Yep. Is public domain. lol
gonna try and own
Rather interesting..as a D4 player, its definatly worth looking into...
i get it now
No offense but I studied the English Opening once and I hated it. The style of this opening just doesn't suit me.
an advanced pawn gives you an imediate advantange.
that same strong player killed me with this as well
I used to like the English but I have had trouble with black's e6 followed, eventually, by Bc5, which puts great pressure on f2. Playing e3 to ward off the attack seems to lead to a rather sterile game.
one of my favorite openings
its best when you dont castle but but queen, black and which bishops forming fianchettos on b2, c2 and d3, then be patient!!!
You just copied encyclopedia
it will work
I did not copy any encyclopedia
This is bassically the only openong I use.
I think i have mastered this and its my favourate. I have hit a 1920 guy with it and now i wait for a 2000 rated victim!!!
I win every time with this opening. I love it!
I began playing this opening after years of playing only e4 openings (King's Gambit vs e5, Open Sicilian vs c5) because I found a slew of local players in the tournaments here in Atlanta playing the Caro Kann, and my winning % playinig white went way downhill (not that I never won, just it dipped more than I cared for), and normally when I won against my opponent playing it, it wasn't because I made a !! move, but my opponent making a ?? move.But I have discovered I like the English for its own sake. A lot. Though I play well against the Sicilian if I open e4, my winning percentage with the English is (slightly) higher than when I play 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3. Now I only play 1. e4 if I know my opponent will respond with e5 and allow me to play King's Gambit (which I know is not in favor at the moment, but it seems to be due to taste for positional over tactical games, not that the opening itself is bad - grandmasters still play it in serious games on occasion - I think it's just that it often leads to quick games and almost never ends in a draw - and if black beats you quickly, especially because you played an agressive opening, people for some reason see that as embarrassing - personally I find draws just as dissatisfying as a loss, even against a higher rated player, even though it might help my rating - I do play more consertively against higher rated players, but it's not that I'm playing for a draw as much as I know that they will see fatal blunders I make that myself and a player of lower quality won't).
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My wife made the mistake of telling a further along pregnant woman what our girl name was. It was Sara. Well it's not Sara anymore because this further along pregnant person named her new born girl Sarah. Coincidence? Who knows. Maybe she took the name and I really don't care.
I mentioned in an earlier post that women are competitive, most especially when it comes to naming the baby. So words to the wise fathers-to-be: You must play the game too. Don't tell anyone your name, especially if you know someone who is going to have a baby before yours arrives.
So we still have the Boy name we picked out. That one is safe. As far as Girl's names? Back to the drawing board!

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After three preseason games, 76 warmup contests in the regular season and 11 grueling playoff wins, the belle of the AHL's ball is in play for the Syracuse Crunch.
It's the Calder Cup, and for the first time in the 19-year history of the team it is four wins away from skating it around a rink.
The dramatic preliminaries emphatically ended on Saturday, when the cold-blooded Crunch dispatched Wilkes-Barre/Scranton 7-0 to clinch the Eastern Conference final in front of 5,615 partying fans in the War Memorial.
Syracuse ran away with three goals in the second and turned to a grinder to deliver the unexpected knockout blow as fourth-liner Philippe Paradis potted a hat trick for his first three goals of the post-season. Netminder Cedric Desjardins made 23 saves for his second whitewash of the series and third of the playoffs, a franchise mark.
The Crunch dropped the first game of the best-of-seven series and then swept the last four to take the affair four games to one. Syracuse is now 11-1 in these playoffs and awaits the winner of the Western Conference finals between Grand Rapids and Oklahoma City, which is tied 2-2.
The Crunch will have home-ice advantage in that series, which will begin with Games 1 and 2 next weekend in the War Memorial.
"Our mission is to go until the end. I think we all know it's unfinished business,'' Desjardins said.
Vladdy Namestnikov, Radko Gudas, Dan Sexton and Ondrej Palat each joined the Paradis party with one goal apiece for Syracuse, which yet again has the luxury of between-series time to rest up.
"It's so exciting,'' said Paradis, in his second full year as a pro. "It's my first experience in the playoffs. Just being here is awesome. It's getting more exciting each round.''
Lost in Saturday's big knockout punch was the job turned in by Desjardins and the Syracuse blueliners, which out-defensed the best defense in the AHL. The Crunch allowed four goals in the first-game loss and then four total in the final four games.
"For us, our defense is pretty good,'' Desjardins said. "We're blocking shots. It's a five-man unit. I see every puck. If I don't see it, the guys will block it.''
Syracuse salted the game away with a three-goal second. Paradis sent the Crunch ahead 3-0 with a wrap-around at the 13:17 mark to the left side of Wilkes-Barre/Scranton netminder Jeff Zatkoff.
Paradis was acquired in a trade from Rockford earlier this season to add a little sandpaper to the lineup, and Saturday his fourth-line work with Cedric Paquette produced several scoring chances.
"They were in their (the Penguins') face. They were rewarded by scoring goals. When you play hard, you get rewarded,'' said Syracuse coach Rob Zettler.
Sexton batted in a feed from Philip-Michael Devos 1:54 later to make it 4-0, and Sexton then fed Palat for a power-play tally with 1:02 left to give the Crunch a 5-0 cushion after two. Palat is the AHL's leading postseason scorer with 20 points (5-15)
Paradis provided the topping with two more goals in the third.
"I'm not used to scoring three goals in the same game,'' said Paradis, who had one in 44 combined contests with Rockford and Syracuse this year. "I was just trying to play my simple game, just trying to give momentum to the team.''
Wilkes-Barre/Scranton coach John Hynes rolled the dice in net by starting Zatkoff, who hadn't played since Game 2 of the Eastern Conference semifinal against Providence on May 11. Syracuse pressured him early, finally lighting the fuse on the night late in the opening period.
With 3:56 left in the first, Syracuse defenseman Andrej Sustr unloaded from the left point. The puck slammed off the goalie and jumped high in the air. Namestnikov, free and clear on the right side of the crease, swatted it in for a 1-0 Crunch lead.
Those smallest of edges has been all the Crunch has needed this postseason. It has yet to surrender any lead its earned through its first three series.
"The message was the first 10 minutes was going to be key,'' Zettler said.
"We knew they were going to make a push. We knew if we could push back, we could probably break their will,'' Sexton said.
Fifty-two ticks later, Gudas shoved some more by slamming a bid from the right point that got help from a screen by J.T. Wyman out front and tore into the back of the net to double Syracuse edge.
By that point, the Crunch was well on its way to playing another game -- the waiting game to see who emerges as its final opponent. Zettler said he plans to give the team off Sunday and Monday before returning to practice on Tuesday.
"We're feeling it right now,'' he said of the fatigue. "It's nice to be able to take some rest. I told them to have some fun for a day and we'll come back and start fresh next week.''
By winning the Eastern Conference title, the Crunch earned the league's Richard F. Canning trophy. That will be presented before Game 1 of the finals.
Box score
W-B/Scranton 0 0 0 - 0
Syracuse 2 3 2 - 7
1st Period-1, Syracuse, Namestnikov 2 (Sustr, Johnson), 16:04. 2, Syracuse, Gudas 2 (Brown, Wyman), 16:56. Penalties-Barberio Syr (slashing), 0:51; Sill Wbs (unsportsmanlike conduct), 8:02; Uher Wbs (tripping), 8:02; Gudas Syr (unsportsmanlike conduct), 8:02; Brown Syr (high-sticking), 17:32.
2nd Period-3, Syracuse, Paradis 1 (Barberio, Sustr), 13:37. 4, Syracuse, Sexton 4 (Devos), 15:31. 5, Syracuse, Palat 5 (Sexton, Barberio), 17:58 (PP). Penalties-Taormina Syr (interference), 2:14; Dumoulin Wbs (holding), 10:50; Mormina Wbs (high-sticking), 16:48.
3rd Period-6, Syracuse, Paradis 2 (Sustr), 1:02. 7, Syracuse, Paradis 3 (Sexton, Barberio), 5:43. Penalties-Thompson Wbs (fighting), 4:11; Korobov Syr (fighting), 4:11; Paradis Syr (roughing), 9:05.
Shots on Goal-W-B/Scranton 9-5-8-22. Syracuse 11-15-4-30.
Power Play Opportunities-W-B/Scranton 0 / 4; Syracuse 1 / 3.
Goalies-W-B/Scranton, Zatkoff 2-2-0 (29 shots-22 saves); Thiessen 6-4-0 (1 shots-1 saves). Syracuse, Desjardins 10-1-0 (22 shots-22 saves).
Referees-Mark Lemelin (41), Darcy Burchell (42).
Linesmen-Kiel Murchison (79), Jud Ritter (34).
Series schedule:
Game 1 - May 25 - W-B/Scranton 4, Syracuse 2
Game 2 - Sunday - Syracuse 3, Wilkes-Barre/Scranton 2
Game 3 - Wednesday - Syracuse 2, W-B/Scranton 0
Game 4 - Friday - Syracuse 4, Wilkes-Barre/Scranton 2
Game 5 - Saturday - Syracuse 7, Wilkes-Barre/Scranton 0
Syracuse wins series, four games to one


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Defeating Discouragement - Part 1
Everyone faces difficult times but the choice is always yours to stay captive to discouragement or to rise above it. Charles Stanley shares key truths from the life of Nehemiah that can help you overcome tests or achieve your goals. Learn that important steps like relying on godly counsel, establishing goals, and having a clear plan will encourage your spirit and spur you on to victory.


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WASHINGTON -- Wizards guard Bradley Beal had to be helped off the court Friday during a loss in Minnesota. A night later, he was back to help lead a rout of the Detroit Pistons.
John Wall had 20 points and 11 assists, and Beal scored 10 of his 15 points during the second quarter as Washington pulled away for a 106-82 victory on Saturday.
Marcin Gortat scored 16 points, and Trevor Ariza added 15 points for Washington, which snapped a three-game home losing streak and has won four of its last five overall.
Beal left in the fourth quarter Friday after colliding with Timberwolves forward Luc Mbah a Moute. An MRI Saturday was negative and Beal started against Detroit and played 20 minutes.
"I woke up this morning feeling good, so I was hopeful that would be a good sign throughout the day," Beal said. "The (doctor) told me it was nothing but a little bone bruise. It's going to take a little bit more than that to keep me from playing. And it didn't hurt tonight, so that's a good thing."
One night after their worst defeat of the season, a 22-point loss to the Wolves, the Wizards never trailed, pulling away late in the first half and posting their biggest margin of victory this season.
"We got back a little bit of our identity that I thought we lost last night coming out of Christmas break," coach Randy Wittman said.
"We can only play one way, and that's a physical presence on the floor. Tonight was more the team that we have to be. I thought that right from the jump ball we took the fight in a physical manner that we didn't at all last night."
Greg Monroe scored 14 points and Brandon Jennings had 13 for Detroit, which has dropped four of five.
Detroit coach Maurice Cheeks kept starting forward Josh Smith, who had five points in Friday's loss at Orlando and shot 2 of 7 in the first half against the Wizards, on the bench for the second half.
"I just felt like I wanted to make a change and stay with the guys I went with," Cheeks said. "It wasn't just him. (Kentavious Caldwell-Pope) didn't start either."
Caldwell-Pope eventually played nearly 10 minutes of the second half.
"I mean it's unfair because like I told you before, I play the game hard each and every day," Smith said when asked if he was being singled out. "When I was younger I played this game free year around. So why wouldn't I want to come out here and put my best foot forward every time I step out?"
The Wizards took an 11-point lead in the first quarter as Gortat scored 10 points.
Detroit pulled within 42-37 midway through the second quarter on a basket by Will Bynum, but Washington went on a 20-4 run to end the half, capped by two 3-pointers from Beal and a reverse dunk by Wall.
"Those were two great finds by John," Beal said. "He saw I hit the first one and he came right back to me. That just shows his IQ and the connection we both have, and he got me going."
Wall had 10 points in the quarter as well, and Washington scored a season-high 62 points in the first half.
The Pistons went scoreless for the final 4:53 of the quarter and shot 37 percent for the half. Washington meanwhile, hit 25 of 44 field goals (57 percent) in the first 24 minutes.
"Our transition defense has been bad. Our interior defense has been bad," Cheeks said. "When you have a team that is shooting well from the three and getting inside the paint, a lot of things are going to give and we need to recover."
Detroit got no closer than 19 points in the second half and the Wizards led by as many as 28.
"Being aggressive, attacking the basket, being more physical," Wall said of the win. "We got back to our defensive concepts and we protected the rim and got a lot or rebounds."
The Wizards collected 34 assists. They outrebounded Detroit 46-38 and limited the Pistons to 11 offensive rebounds.
Wall has scored 20 or more points in a career-high six consecutive games and it was his 10th double-double of the season.


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Pyro continued to steamroll his way to the Kentucky Derby with a dominant three-length victory in the Louisiana Derby on Saturday at Fair Grounds Race Course.
My Pal Charlie, a 60-1 shot for New Orleans-based trainer Al Stall Jr., finished second, a half-length ahead of Yankee Bravo. Blackberry Road finished fourth
The powerful dark brown 3-year-old encountered trouble once again, but just as he did in winning the Risen Star Stakes last month, still managed to overcome it. This time, Pyro was forced to wait for room as he encountered traffic at the top of the stretch, he waited for a hole, then split rivals and pulled away under steady urging from jockey Shaun Bridgmohan.
"He was very professional," Bridgmohan said.
The win was Pyro's second in as many starts this year and increased his lifetime earnings to more than $1 million.
Pyro's next start is scheduled for the Blue Grass Stakes, April 12 at Keeneland, trainer Steve Asmussen said.


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Chicken Vindaloo is a dish that needs no introduction. A famous, often fiery, red curry from Goa, vindaloo has made a name for itself in the world of books. Like the beautiful land of Goa, it is calm and inviting on the surface but oozing with depths of flavor and spices. You can't rush Vindaloo… it takes time, patience and a little effort but it is worth it's weight in gold
Soaking Time: 30 min
Prep Time: 10 min
Marinating Time: 2 hours
Cooking Time: 1.5 hours
Serves: 6
Boneless Skinless Chicken Thighs – 2.5 lb (1.25kg) bite size pcs.
Onions – 4 cups
Clarified Butter (Ghee) – 2 tbsp
Deghi Mirch / Kashmiri Mirch – 2 tsp + 2 tsp
Potatoes – 2 medium, peeled & cubed
Water – 4 cups
White Vinegar – 2 tbsp
For the Marinade:
Dry Red Chillies – 12 or to taste
White Vinegar – 1/4 cup (4 tbsp)
Cloves – 7
Peppercorns – 15 or to taste
Cinnamon Sticks – 2″ piece
Ginger – approx. 2 tbsp, minced
Garlic – 12 large cloves
Cumin Seeds – 1 tbsp
Turmeric Powder – 2 tsp
Deghi Mirch / Kashmiri Mirch – 2 tsp
Water – 2-4 tbsp for grinding
Salt – 2 tsp
1. Soak Dry Red Chillies in 1/4 cup White Vinegar for 30 minutes.
2. Pour into blender, along with Cloves, Peppercorns, Cinnamon Sticks, Ginger, Garlic, Deghi Mirch, Cumin Seeds and Turmeric Powder.
3. Grind into smooth paste, use 2-4 tbsp Water if needed to help grind.
4. Prep Chicken by cutting to bite-size pieces, wash and pat dry with paper-towel.
5. Mix the marinade into the Chicken, add Salt, cover. Allow to marinade in refrigerator for minimum 2 hours (overnight if possible).
6. In same grinder, blend onions into fine paste and mix into marinated Chicken.
7. In large pan, heat Clarified Butter (Ghee) on medium heat.
8. Once hot, add additional Peppercorns and Cloves.
9. Once they start sizzling, add in Chicken. Mix and allow Chicken to change color (approx 10 min).
10. Add in Potatoes, Deghi Mirch, Water and White Vinegar.
11. Mix, lower heat to a medium-low flame, cover and cook for approx. an hour. Stir intermittently.
12. After an hour, check on the Potatoes, they should be cooked. Check on your Salt and spices and adjust if needed.
13. Remove from flame stove and serve over white Rice or with some hot Naans.
1. Vindaloo tastes even better the next day, it gives the spices to marinate the Chicken further.
2. To make authentic Vindaloo, change out the chicken for some pork, but remember to cook it a bit longer.
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30 Responses to "Chicken Vindaloo"
Eric Says:
August 7th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Thank you ,thank you a million times for this!
paul housman Says:
August 7th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Can you use something other than the deghi mirch? Maybe paprika or ancho pepper to add color.
Charlie Sommers Reply:
August 7th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
I would almost bet (I could be wrong) that you could substitute Mexican Achiote powder, this powder has a slight sour taste but since the recipe already contains vinegar it might work okay. Now, all you need is a Hispanic store close by.
Sandhya Reply:
August 11th, 2012 at 4:04 am
In my opinion, you can use the regular chili powder. Degi mirch and Kashmir mirch give more color to the dish.
paul housman Reply:
August 12th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
I agree but I hate to buy this stuff if I'm only going to use it in this recipe.My spice shelf is bursting at the seams now
Milady Says:
August 7th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
I haven't visited the site for a couple of weeks but I'm looking forward to viewing your next veggie recipe!
Rich Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 5:41 am
My dear ladies,
You have not only provided the mean of feeding my stomach but gone on to feed my heart and soul as well.
I did not have the dried chillies on hand but I have a generous supply of Indian red chili powder; starting off with a tablespoonful, I "adjusted the heat" to my taste by carefully checking and adding small amounts until it was correct. Everything else was a matter of balancing out to taste.
Ghee lamps will be lit for the two of you as a thank you for sharing your knowledge and friendship.
A faithful fan, Rich
ARJ Reply:
August 10th, 2012 at 3:37 am
Cook Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Is it ok to marinate onion paste overnight rather then adding it after marination?
Pinal Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
This recipe looks delicious. I will make it for my hubby once Shravan month is over.
would cooking small pieces of chicken for an hour over cook it?
Both of you ladies look beautiful!!
Anonymous Says:
August 10th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
I am vegetarian, this dish looks awesome, can we substitute chicken with paneer or soya chunks
hetal Reply:
August 10th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Yes, paneer or soya chunks would work…however, the cooking time and amount of water you use may be somewhat less.
Lelala Says:
November 3rd, 2012 at 11:38 am
Very nice and very great. i prefer to keep it in the oven for 5 – 10 min more
Erik Says:
December 18th, 2012 at 12:10 am
So, Hetal, please don't take this wrong. I love the blog and I love Indian food. Have you watched yourself? You stare into the camera. Please consider not doing that. Anuja does not look into it and seems so much more relaxed and natural. Keep up the good work.
hetal Reply:
December 18th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Thanks for the feedback Erik! Will keep that in mind :).
Summer Wagner Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
I have ground cumin not seeds would that be an issue? And if not an issue should I adjust the amount?
hetal Reply:
January 8th, 2013 at 4:55 pm
Hi Summer,
Cumin powder will work…same quantity.
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Hank Says:
January 14th, 2013 at 7:13 am
Hi ladies,
I'm a fan of your site, and have tried many dishes over the past several years. If found your Vindaloo dish interesting, as it differs from many I've seen online. I followed it pretty closely, though I used pork instead of chicken, and I threw in an extra potato. I also added about 8 fresh green chilies and a sprig of curry leaves, just for the heck of it. I do want to point out that the pork cooked long before the potatoes were finished. In fact, it was beginning to dry out, so I pulled the pieces out and covered in a side dish with some gravy. It took at least another 30 minutes for the potatoes to cook. I used pork from the freezer, so maybe that was the difference? Next time, maybe I should parboil the potatoes first?
Great flavor though. And with the extra chilis, it will keep us warm during this cold rocky mountain winter! Keep the recipes and videos coming! And stare at the camera all you want! 😉
Anonymous Says:
January 29th, 2013 at 3:09 am
toooooooooooo much make up.
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October 4th, 2015 at 6:13 pm
You are such a hater
Gopi Says:
April 9th, 2014 at 1:45 pm
Anuja / Hetal, I am not into cooking, but had the urge to make a chicken vindaloo and downloaded the first recipe that i found on the net. It turned out dark brown (not like the red vindaloos I remembered), and had a coarse texture to it (perhaps due to the red chilies not being finely ground), and with a sweetish tinge (the recipe I had said to add jaggery or brown sugar).
As I had it at the back of my mind that something was not right, I checked the net again for other recipes and found your site and the ever so simple method in which you have laid out the recipe.
I have been trying to kick myself for not discovering your site earlier. The format is so uncomplicated, and "clean", and makes cooking for amateurs like me – extremely simple.
I will be an ardent follower of this site henceforth! Thanks again !
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April 7th, 2015 at 7:12 am
been looking for a nice recipe of this to try. Thanks for sharing this.
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AV Says:
May 15th, 2016 at 5:43 am
Turned out great! As soon as I finished grinding the marinade and opened the mixie, I could get the distinctive vindaloo tang familiar from eating at Goan restaurants. As a novice cook, this was my first time attempting something that involved these many spices, marination etc. — I followed the recipe closely, except that I bumped up the heat level with more pepper, and threw in some green chillis when grinding the onions. Given my inexperience, I hadn't expected it to come out this well — thanks to both of you for the clear and precise directions!


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A few things to keep an eye on when the New England Patriots host the Miami Dolphins Sunday at 1 p.m.
Locking up Public Enemy No. 1: It's imperative that the Patriots find a way to contain the uncontainable Cameron Wake. The Dolphins' linebacker leads the NFL with 14 sacks and was one of the few players this season to cause legitimate problems for the Patriots offensive line. In their Week 5 meeting, he recorded two sacks and made lineman Sebastian Vollmer his whipping boy throughout the night. Wake loves to rush off the edge, so the Patriots need to have a better awareness of his presence, especially if backup quarterback Brian Hoyer spills Tom Brady at some point.
Run, run again then run some more: If this game is truly a tune-up for the playoffs, the Patriots have a great opportunity to prepare running backs BenJarvus Green-Ellis and Danny Woodhead against one of the more staunch run defenses in the NFL. The Dolphins rank sixth in the NFL with 94.7 allowed per game, which makes them as good as anyone New England will come up against in the playoffs. If the offensive line can control the line of scrimmage, that will also set the tone for whoever happens to be taking snaps under center.
He's the Bess: The Patriots found out how frustrating it can be to cover a slot receiver that excels at running short, underneath routes in their previous meeting against the Dolphins. In that game, Davone Bess exposed all the vulnerabilities in the Patriots' pass defense by catching eight passes for 96 yards. It goes without saying that he can't be allowed to create that kind of havoc this time around. Bess has come up on tough times since the Dolphins stopped playing meaningful games, but he has made 76 catches for 785 yards and still demands respect.
The Marshall Plan: After missing a pair of games with a hamstring injury, Dolphins receiver Brandon Marshall has returned with a vengeance. Marshall turned in 100-yard performances in his last two games against the Buffalo Bills and Detroit Lions, and will look to find similar success Sunday. The last time out the Patriots did a good job of containing him, holding him to five catches for 50 yards.
Handling Vontae Davis: Davis doesn't have numbers that will make your eyes bulge (one interception, 51 tackles) but that's more a sign of respect teams have for him than a reflection of his talent. Opposing quarterbacks don't throw at him. It will be interesting to see if the Patriots take a similar approach and allow Davis to take one of their receivers out of the game plan.
Nick's pick: This one is tough to figure because it's very likely that the New England starters will head to the bench at some point and it's the Dolphins (7-8) Super Bowl. Still, Hoyer or Brady, the Patriots will be looking to pick up the win, it just won't likely be in as dominating fashion and the Patriots' streak of scoring 30 or more points in seven consecutive games will come to an end. Patriots 24-17.
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In this election, we have three choices for Representative Position 2.
One of the candidates running to be our Representative has proven that she is the puppet of corporate money. Big tobacco, pharmaceutical conglomerates, and nation-wide retail giants have financed her campaign.
Her voting habit as recorded in the Legislative Review issued by the Association of Washington Business clearly shows that she is not interested in representing the citizens of the 10th Legislative District Ñ our district! For three terms, she has been beholden to the policies of "Big Business."
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Springfield is doing all right in the American Hockey League's Hall of Fame.
The Class of 2009, to be inducted as a highlight of the AHL's All-Star Weekend (Jan. 24-25 at Worcester), includes two beloved Springfield goal-getters - Jimmy Anderson and Bruce Boudreau.
They'll be going in with old Cleveland Baron Les Cunningham, rightfully regarded as the AHL's first superstar; and Lou Pieri, honored as a builder of the original Providence franchise. He's also known as a part-owner of the early Boston Celtics, who play that other winter sport.
The AHL began its Hall of Fame in 2006 - 70 years after the league was formed. So far, this Hall of Fame has 18 members, five of them tied directly to Springfield's hockey history. The others are Eddie Shore, longtime owner of the Springfield Indians; Jack Butterfield, longtime president of the league; and Noel Price, a defenseman on great Springfield clubs of the early 1960s.
All very nice, but one can only wonder when the AHL will get around to honoring two other Springfield hockey icons, Harry Pidhirny and Marcel Paille. Their time certainly should have come by now.
The AHL will be hard-pressed to catch up to all deserving honorees, mainly because the plan is to induct no more than four or five per year. That restriction comes about because a small class allows the league to conduct an impressive and proper induction ceremony at the All-Star dinner.
When Anderson's induction comes 'round, he will be saluted as a 17-year AHL player who logged 943 games and 426 goals, all with Springfield clubs. After arriving on the Springfield sports scene in the fall of 1954, he went on to score 39 goals and win the Red Garrett Award as AHL rookie of the year. Not bad for a kid from Pembroke, Ont., who spent his first month here learning to skate "the Eddie Shore way."
During Anderson's time with the Indians, they won three straight Calder Cups - not done before or since.
He had two 40-goal seasons and finished with a career total of 821 points. He ranks No. 5 on the AHL's all-time list of goal scorers.
Anderson was considered "a natural" scorer. Yes, but along with that knack, he brought a work ethic that enabled him to get better as he grew older.
Boudreau didn't have Anderson's special brand of Springfield longevity, but he did play in the AHL for 11 years and coach in it for nine (one Calder Cup with the Hershey Bears of 2006). His success behind the bench led to his promotion to his current job as head coach of the NHL's Washington Capitals.
In the 1987-88 season, Boudreau posted a Springfield record 116 points, topping the 108 by Bill Sweeney in 1960-61.
Bill Sweeney ... now there's another AHL Hall of Fame candidate, eh?


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Hey all.
I did my first Ultra this weekend and I think it would have gone much better if I did not start to get blisters on my feet around mile 30 something.
I'm doing Comrades in June and I am worried about the strict 12 hour cut off time and blisters.
Does anyone have suggestion on how to avoid them or somethign I can take with me to sooth them if I do get them on my run? By mile 40 something each step I took hurt and I don't want that to happen in South Africa.
Thanks for the help.
I am by no means an ultra runner, but when I did martial arts the two things we would use to prevent blisters on the soles of our feet were shea butter or tea tree oil (but not both at once). Shea butter moisturizes your feet and helps prevent hot spots. Tea tree oil actually conditions the skin and makes them more resistant to moisture and actually kind of leathery so they can handle friction better without reacting to it.
In terms of running, Fuel sock Wright socks (double layer cushioned anti-blister socks) are great, but I did learn at the splash in dash they are almost impossible to get onto wet fit so not the best for tris but should work for your ultra but might not be enough on their own to prevent blisters.
The shea butter and tea tree oil options I would double check with a runner before trying, they were both for bare foot martial arts applications, but really did wonders for preventing blisters in that context.
I lather up my feet with a generous coating of Vasaline before every marathon. I hit the sides, the bottom, the gaps between the toes, and pretty much every skin part that touches the socks. I've never had issues, even under heavy rainstorms.
In an ultra, you have access to your goodie bags at certain stations. Put some in there and reapply if need be.
I learned the Vasaline trick from somewhere ... probably a re-education camp outside of Da Nang, Vietnam.
I'm not an ultramarathoner either, but duct tape works for me when I hike long distances. Not sure if this would equally apply to running.
I have really sensitive skin and am super prone to blisters, chaffing etc. I swear by Bode Glide - Its cheap, light weight, and doesn't feel greasy.
You should be able to pick it up on Amazon or most running stores.


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I've upgraded old XP PCs to Windows 7 and I've bought new PCs equipped with Windows 7. Either way I've found that it's not cheap. Now, Gartner, the research company, has worked out just how expensive upgrading to Windows 7 can be for enterprises. In one word, moving to Windows 7 can be described in one word: "Ow!"
Charles Smulders, Gartner's managing VP believes that "Corporate IT departments typically prefer to migrate PC operating systems (OSs) via hardware attrition, which means bringing in the new OS as they replace hardware through a normal refresh cycle. Microsoft will support Windows XP for four more years. With most migrations not starting until the fourth quarter of 2010 at the earliest, and PC hardware replacement cycles typically running at four to five years, most organizations will not be able to migrate to Windows 7 through usual planned hardware refresh before support for Windows XP ends."


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KALAMAZOO -- A press and printer that were to be used to make T-shirts for a youth-outreach center's annual peace walk were taken during a break-in overnight Sunday, the center's executive director said.
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Three video-game systems and a stereo system also were taken, said Michelle "Toni" McGhee, who heads Toni's Praise Place at 708 N. Burdick St. The press and printer were purchased a week ago so the center could print T-shirts for the third-annual Walk For Peace In Our City, she said.
The walk promotes unity and is a symbolic stance against violence. It is scheduled for 5:30 p.m. July 21, which would have been the 29th birthday of McGhee's son, Andre Reason, who was shot and killed in 2003 on Florence Street, along with 25-year-old Derek Ruffin.
During peace walks in 2006 and 2007, participants wore T-shirts displaying images of Reason, Ruffin and other men and teenagers killed by gun violence in Kalamazoo.
McGhee said Monday that it appears someone got into the center by kicking a hole in a rear wall. Police, who were called to Toni's Praise Place at about 10:25 a.m. Monday, are continuing to investigate, said Detective Lt. Scott Merlo of the Kalamazoo Department of Public Safety.
McGhee said the center is asking for help from the community in replacing items that were lost.
"When we try to do something right, evil is still present," McGhee said. "Why would someone want to steal something that we're trying to do good with?"
Despite the thefts, McGhee said the walk, which begins in the parking lot of the Kalamazoo Gospel Mission, will go on as scheduled. "Nothing is going to stop us from the third-annual Walk for Peace," she said.
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Swimmers wrap arms around Olivia Carey
An islander battling cancer is first honoree in an around-the-island swimming relay.
Olivia Carey is a striking personality and recognizable face.
To those who know her, shes a devoted friend, instructor and confidant.
Friends say Careys life is dedicated to giving. She has been a personal trainer at Island Fitness for five years, and teaches an exotic dance class for women who want to regain sensuality and confidence after rough relationships or battles with disease. Class proceeds go to womens shelters, and she has given her time and money to womens causes for 20 years.
For someone so long an anchor for women in need, it could be hard finding the strength to seek out support herself.But since Carey was diagnosed with stage three ovarian cancer three months ago, she has fought the disease, and her reserved nature, to recover with the help of a community offering comfort and hope.
When I was diagnosed it was a huge shock. I havent been sick in 15 years, Carey said. It was pretty serious, and after the initial surgery the doctor said that they wanted to proceed with chemotherapy and I just thought I couldnt go through with it.
I thought it would be too much. It was a very dark time for me.
The day after the surgery Michael and Alexa Rosenthal, Island Fitness co-owners, visited Carey with a large stack of letters and cards from the community. Within days, there was already a trust fund set up to aid her recovery.
Olivia has become a very good friend, and the thing that gets people by in these situations is the friends who come together and support them, Michael Rosenthal said. It was effortless to put it together. We just did what we normally do and the outpouring was phenomenal.
That outpouring changed Careys outlook on her cancer.
While she had been the one to teach recovering women how to regain faith, she now found that strength in herself through the words of friends and strangers alike.
It brought me to tears. Reading these letters from people I hardly knew, it took my breath away, Carey said. I just felt this warmth around me, that I could do this, I could get well. I wanted to know who these people are, to see their faces, to thank them.
The encouragement convinced her to undergo chemotherapy and turn her box of letters and inspirational stories into an important part of her therapy. More support came in the form of groceries and home-made meals; a close friend, Nancy Blakey, offered her guest house as a place for Carey to heal.
People here just get it, said Careys friend Sharon Kane. Some people think that the heart of the island is gone, but the core of people here are fun-spirited and amazingly giving.
Kane is part of a group organizing a first-ever event to raise awareness and funds for Careys medical expenses.
Arms Around Bainbridge will be a 29-mile swim relay around the perimeter of the Bainbridge Island. The goal is to uplift and support an outstanding community member who is struggling with a life-threatening ailment, with a new beneficiary to be named each year.
At first, Carey was not interested in being on the receiving end of a benefit after so much time spent giving, which troubled Kane.
I felt like saying, Olivia, I know its hard accepting things, but what have you been doing for all these other people, youve been helping them, Kane said. Shes just a very private, but elegant, person.
Carey was moved.
Initially, when I was approached I thought it was too much for me, she said. But they described the event and what it is going to do for people in the years to come and I thought, how could I not do this?
The name, Arms Around Bainbridge, it was exactly how I felt. Whoever is going to go through something similar to my situation will feel like the communitys arms are around them too. I feel honored that they choose me to be the first person to be a part of it.
The event has gone from concept to starting line in record time, with the support of island swimmers, boaters, kayakers and friends.
The course, being set up by Brian Russell and Paul Webber, will include a counterclockwise swim set to start at 5 a.m. Sept. 1, and finishing around 9:30 p.m.
An estimated 15-20 swimmers will be taking part in the relay race. One of the more advanced swimmers, Orlando Boleda, will try for 10 miles and will navigate the strong currents around Eagle Harbor.
A website designed by Pete and Aleta Saloutos, www.armsaroundbainbridge.com, will soon be updated with the approximate times swimmers in the relay will pass island neighborhoods, for people who want to express their support from ashore.
All the costs involved from the event are being absorbed by the participants. Each swimmer is also donating $100, and all of the proceeds will go directly to helping offset the cost of Careys medical treatment.
Arms Around Bainbridge organizers are drumming up community support by displaying posters and asking for donations to the Olivia Carey Special Needs Trust.
Were going around to merchants and asking them to post the poster and to go ahead and collect funds. If people think they are going to write a check, hand it to the merchant or drop it off at Island Fitness, Kane said. Ive never walked around and asked merchants for anything, even something as simple as putting a sign up in a window, but this story and this event has given me the courage to do that.
Kane hopes that in the coming year someone else who is in need of medical support will come forward and benefit from Arms Around Bainbridge.
To Carey, it is an example of just how much a community can heal.
What is amazing about this community, when you go through something, anything, they give their full support, she said. They dont even have to know you, just know of you, and to me that is extraordinary because its not as common we would like it to be.
Im going through cancer, but I dont feel like I have cancer. The way I look at it, there is so much love that the community has pushed it out. I just feel I have so much more in my life now.
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Born in New Brunswick, May 26, 1967, daughter of Charles and Patricia Sullivan of Upper Makefield, Pa., Tracy had resided in Raritan Township, for the last thirteen years before moving from High Bridge.
Growing up in East Windsor and Cranbury, she was a 1985 graduate of Lawrence High School, Lawrence Township. Majoring in communications and journalism, she attended Syracuse University and graduated from Rutgers University in 1989.
She was a stay-at-home mom with a passion for interior decorating and design who started and operated her own internet decorating and consulting business, dailydecorator.com. She worked as a corporate television consultant for AT&T, Lucent Technologies, Avaya and Sanofi Aventis. She was also member of St. Magdalen Church, Flemington.
Tracy was a loving mother, wife, sister, daughter and a great friend to those that knew her.
Surviving in addition to her parents are her husband, Joel Tomlinson; two sons, Shea and Evan Tomlinson; a daughter, Maeve Tomlinson of Raritan Township; two brothers, Mark Sullivan of Hamilton, Jeff Sullivan of Canton, Mass.; and two sisters, Carrie Sullivan of Delaware Township and Jamie Sullivan of Upper Makefield Township, Pa.
A Mass will be held Saturday, Aug. 31, at 9:30 a.m. in St. Magdalen Church, 105 Mine St., Flemington. Visitation hours will be held Friday 6-8 p.m. in the Holcombe-Fisher Funeral Home, 147 Main St., Flemington. Interment will be private.
In lieu of flowers, memorial contributions may be made to Chain of Hope in honor of Tracy Sullivan at Chain of Hope, Box 5875, Hillsborough, NJ 08844 (chainhope.org). Donations direct to the family could be made at supporttracy.wordpress.com.
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Earlier this month we learned that NBC is unlikely to pick up the planned reboot series based on The Munsters but it looks like the Mockingbird Lane pilot isn't going to be wasted. NBC has announced that they will air the pilot episode of Mockingbird Land as a one-off Hallowe'en special later this month. My guess is that NBC will wait and see how the show does in the ratings before the decide to kill the series completely or not. Honestly, it's not a bad idea. Unfortunately, based on the just-released TV commercial for the Mockingbird Land pilot/Hallowe'en special, the show doesn't look all that good … at least to me. Check out the commercial above and see what you think. Now that we've seen footage of the show, do you think it deserves to be made into a full TV series? Will you be tuning in to watch the Hallowe'en special?0
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10 Techniques for a Tricky Task: A Guide to Through-Bore Reshafting
Most everyone has experienced that horrible feeling. A golfer inquires about reshafting his driver and, after you match his specifications, he selects a shaft and pulls his driver from the bag. Instantly, a cold chill sweeps over your body. You see that dreaded shaft tip through the sole of a metal wood, defiantly glaring at you as if saying, "I dare you to replace me."
It's a through-bore hosel design. And reshafting metal woods and irons of that construction is a repair that can strike fear in the soul of most clubmakers.
However, our expert clubmakers tackled the often-daunting task of modern through-bore reshafting. Follow these tips and techniques and you will soon master this tricky job.
STEP 1: Careful Planning and Preparation
Should you save the shaft? Does the club have a special ferrule that can't be replaced? Does the club have a thin-walled, ultra light shaft that might crack from clamping pressure? Answers to these questions guide the techniques used to remove the existing shaft.
First, if you don't need to save the shaft (i.e. a broken shaft), cut it flush to the top of the hosel and drill out the remaining portion. This makes it easier to save the ferrule as well.
If you are saving the shaft and ferrule, use a knife to slide the ferrule up and away from the hosel so it is not damaged when heat is applied. Shafts installed by Callaway in their large titanium drivers are very thin walled, as are many other ultra light graphite shafts, so be very careful when clamping these shafts. Keep in mind, you don't need excessive clamping force when removing graphite shafts because you're not twisting the shaft; you're simply pushing or pulling the head off the shaft.
STEP 2: Secure Club for Shaft Removal
When removing clubheads from metal shafts, use normal heating and twisting techniques. For composite shafts, Golfsmith professionals favor the Pry Bar (#8230) for pushing off the head. Place the shaft in a rubber shaft clamp just tight enough to prevent the shaft from moving. Secure the vise clamp with the back of the heel pointing up. Other graphite shaft extractors may make it difficult to save the ferrule.
In the case of Callaway metal woods, a suitable O-Ring ferrule may be unavailable. Use of O-Rings on Callaway clubheads is trademarked and prevents other companies from selling such a ferrule. Therefore, cut through the O-Ring base, and slide it up the shaft to save it for later.
STEP 3: Heat to Loosen the Epoxy
For Callaway woods, use the lower flame temperature of a heat gun to soften the epoxy bond. Heat the sole of the clubhead surrounding the shaft tip for about 25-30 seconds and for an additional 15-20 seconds around the back of the heel. A propane torch is NOT recommended for this task; higher flame temperatures will scorch the clubhead's finish. Allow approximately 50% more heating time when working on titanium metal woods.
STEP 4: Apply Pushing Pressure
Immediately after heating, apply constant, firm, pushing force against the top of the hosel with the Pry Bar. After 60 to 90 seconds apply heat for an additional 10 to 15 seconds with the heat gun. The clubhead should now begin to move off the shaft. Most clubmakers that attend our training schools don't apply enough pushing force with the pry bar. With many woods, using more force than heat is better. Remember, titanium heads take more time because the heat sinks slower to the epoxy.
STEP 5: Push Clubhead Off the Shaft & Remove Ferrule
Once you feel the clubhead move, you've won the war. Keep pushing and apply more heat only if the head resists under very firm force. Remove the shaft from the clamp and slide the ferrule or O-Ring off the shaft. Save the ferrule for re-use.
STEP 6: Prepare Tip Angle
The key to success in through-bore reshafting is to perfectly match the shaft tip angle to the sole angle where the shaft protrudes. This can be accomplished in two ways:
Use the old shaft as a guide for grinding the tip angle of the new shaft. First, pre-trim the new shaft's tip per any trimming instructions. Do not sand or abrade the shaft tip. Tip-prepping (sanding the tip's circumference) for epoxy adhesion is done after establishing the tip angle.
Then, position the old shaft so the tip angle is flat against the face of a belt sander or the side of a chop saw's cut-off wheel. Draw a line parallel to the shaft as it lays on the work surface. Once done, this line will serve as your alignment guide for grinding the tip angle of the new shaft.
Keep in mind the final position of the shaft's logo before grinding the tip angle. Lay the shaft so the tip angle allows the shaft logo to face the desired position. Begin grinding and repeatedly compare the new tip angle against the tip angle of the old shaft.
When the new shaft tip angle appears close to the old shaft tip angle, test fit the new shaft in the clubhead and check if the tip is flush with the sole. Touch-up with the sander or chop-saw until the shaft tip is perfectly smooth across the surface of the sole. (Same technique for irons.)
STEP 7: Plug and Prepare the Shaft Tip
Use 5-minute epoxy to secure one of the plastic tip plugs in the open core of the shaft tip. Shaft core diameters are not standard, so you should maintain a small supply of both plug sizes.
When the epoxy is dry, cut the excess plug and file the remaining portion to be flush with the tip. Be careful not to change the angle of the shaft tip.
We recommend scraping the finish from the tip portion inserted into the hosel instead of sanding. This ensures a tighter fit for the shaft and prevents the shaft from twisting after installation.
STEP 8: Install Ferrule
After prepping, slide the appropriate ferrule over the tip and up the shaft. While a ferrule tool can establish the ferrule's final position, it is easier and more accurate to push the ferrule into its proper position by test fitting the new shaft into the hosel. Once the ferrule is set, wrap thin masking tape about four to five times around the shaft, butted against the ferrule.
STEP 9: Epoxy the Shaft
Mix a high shear strength shafting epoxy and allow it to sit until it becomes thicker in viscosity. Immediately using the epoxy is acceptable, but Golfsmith's clubmakers prefer using a little thicker epoxy to prevent the shaft from twisting during the start of its drying time. Use a dowel or stick to swab the inside of the hosel and the outside of the shaft tip with a thin coating of epoxy. In this case, less is definitely more. A minimum amount of epoxy means less clean up and less chance of moving the shaft after installation.
To begin, insert the shaft with a rotating motion until the shaft tip is slightly short of being flush with the sole. Align the tip properly to the bore and slowly push the shaft into place. Press a strip of clear tape (clear packaging tape is thicker and better than cellophane tapes) across the sole and over the shaft tip. Touching the tip area through the tape with one finger, adjust the shaft until it feels smooth across the shaft tip to the sole.
Carefully set the club aside to dry in a position that keeps the shaft from twisting. A horizontal rack works best. If the shaft moves, readjust it after setting the club up to dry.
If the shaft's tip angle was not pre-ground (see Step 6), install the shaft and allow it to dry with the entire shaft tip circumference protruding through the sole. In this case do not use clear tape on the sole as the shaft will be ground flush to the sole after curing.
STEP 10: Clean Up Sole Area
If the shaft tip was pre-ground, peel off the clear tape and check for epoxy smears or leaks. On titanium heads, use a heat gun or very short applications of heat (one or two seconds) from the heat gun to soften the epoxy. Scrape off the epoxy with a fingernail or non-abrasive tool. On steel heads it is acceptable to buff the area around the shaft tip with 3/0 grade steel wool. If the shaft preparation and installation is done properly, little if any cleanup is required. The club can be cut to its desired playing length, swingweight checked and grip installed.
If the shaft twisted during the cure time so the tip is noticeably off the mark, remove the shaft and start over.
A Word About Callaway Irons
Callaway employs a special swaged fit in their irons which is accomplished by slitting the tip of a parallel tip shaft and force fitting the shaft into a specially-tapered hosel. When the shaft is installed, the bottom of the hosel squeezes the slit tip and gives the shaft a tighter fit within the clubhead.
Other than demanding more patience and more pushing pressure, the removal of iron shafts is no different. Installation of the new shaft, however, does require a clubmaker to make a decision as to whether to:
Grinding and Finishing a Non-Pre-Angled Shafts
Installing through-bore shafts without pre-grinding the tip is faster and easier to ensure that the tip is flush with the sole. This is perfectly acceptable for woods and irons, but requires more machinery for properly finishing the job. In fact, some clubmakers who pre-grind tip angles for woods prefer this method for irons because an iron's narrower sole makes grinding and touch up work easier.
After the shaft is epoxied and dry, use a belt sander with a medium grit belt (150) to grind the shaft tip flush with the sole. A bench grinder can remove the majority of the tip, but a belt sander or strong wood head sanding machine should be used to finish the shaft tip flush with the sole.
It is virtually impossible to sand the tip flush without sanding a portion of the sole around the shaft. This means the clubmaker must approach this step with the expectation that the entire sole will be re-surfaced.
For titanium woods and irons, use 150-grit sandpaper to resurface the entire sole. For stainless woods and irons, use a Nylon polishing wheel (#440) to polish the entire sole. For best appearance, polish the clubhead's sole so the abrasion lines run parallel from toe to heel.
Once you have completed this task, take a deep breath and congratulate yourself. You can now do anything!


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Finding out you're pregnant comes with a litany of questions.
And the questions don't stop once the baby is delivered.
How do I find a good pediatrician? Where do I send my child to day care? How do I find age-appropriate activities and enrichment programs to help my child grow?
Hunterdon Medical Center is hosting its 10th annual Baby and Tot Fair to help parents. The fair runs 9 a.m. to 1 p.m. May 31 in the main lobby of the hospital, 2100 Westcott Drive in Flemington. The fair will cover preconception planning, pediatricians and family practice physicians, midwives, infertility specialists, parenting education classes, day care options, nutrition, breastfeeding, the hospital's child development center, and Lamaze and hypnobirthing.
The fair is open to anyone, not just Hunterdon County residents.
Kathleen Seelig, Hunterdon Healthcare's director of public relations and marketing, says the idea for the fair came from a few maternity nurses who wanted to get resources open to parents at both the hospital and in the community, in one place.
"It's really grown since then," Seelig says. "We've expanded to include not just families with newborns, but families with toddlers as well."
Seelig says the fair offers advice and activities for children up to age 5, though parents of newborns or those who are expecting seem to be the most frequent visitors. The fair is also open to those thinking of having a child. In the past the Baby and Tot Fair has drawn about 300 guests, Seelig says, and it keeps growing every year.
The fair will highlight professionals, day care options, kids activity programs and dietitians for parents who wonder how to get their kids to eat their veggies.
New this year will be a traveling zoo show, story time by Hunterdon County Library, an ask-the-pediatrician session, pre- and post-natal yoga through Hunterdon Health and Wellness Centers, and a dietitian who will instruct on how to build healthy smoothies.
Moms can indulge in a complimentary paraffin dip to moisturize and soften hands in the fair's spa. Moms and older girls can get a nail polish change, offered by the cosmetology class at Hunterdon County Poly-Tech Career Academy. Hunterdon Health and Wellness Centers will offer massages for moms and dads.
The fair will offer a music class, face painting and tours of the newly renovated maternity and newborn care center.
This year they started a Cutest Kid contest through Facebook and they've already had more than 200 entries, Seelig says. Three categories — newborn to age 1, ages 2-3 and ages 4-6 — are open with a $50 gift card up for grabs for the winner of each.
The health center is requesting donations of boxes of diapers for a monthlong diaper drive. The center has partnered with the United Way of Hunterdon County and NORWESCAP's diaper bank to collect diapers. With each box donated at the fair, parents can enter to win a car seat, according to a news release.
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The fair runs 9 a.m. to 1 p.m. May 31 in the main lobby of the hospital, 2100 Westcott Drive in Flemington.
Cutest kid contest: Submit photos to email@example.com or send a message to facebook.com/hunterdonhealthcare
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9 a.m. – Story Time, Hunterdon County Library
9:30 a.m. – Eyes of the Wild, traveling zoo show
10:30 a.m. - Music Class with Hunterdon Academy of Arts
11 a.m. – Ask the Pediatrician with Peter Scott, M.D., Hunterdon Pediatric Associates
11:30 a.m. – Music Class with Music Together Family and Friends
Noon –Pre/post-natal Yoga, Jen Wurst, Hunterdon Health and Wellness Centers
Noon – Learn to build a smoothie, for kids and parents, Center for Nutrition and Diabetes Management, Kathleen Lombardi, R.D., community nutritionist


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I have a Palm Treo 90, but I was giving a Tungsten E for free. Should I switch over to the Tungsten E? Is it a better device? Thanks.
You tell me, its all personal preferance, i would keep them both, just incase one breaks...or sell one...your choice man.
(Outdated, so this probally dont matter)
-Hugo V.
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