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Work off your crime
WARREN – A program allowing people convicted of non-violent misdemeanors to work off their fines and jail sentences may get a significant financial assistance later this year if Warren Administrative Judge Thomas Gysegem has anything to do with it.
Gysegem is trying to determine if the municipal court has enough available money to give the alternative sentencing program an additional $10,000 to the $20,000 it already provided this year.
The nearly 16-month-old program gives people with misdemeanor charges and fines the opportunity to pay their debt without spending time in county jail.
Instead, they can work with local community revitalization group Trumbull Neighborhood Partnership on a variety of projects, including boarding up abandoned houses, maintaining abandoned properties and cleaning up Courthouse Square, among other projects.
"So far this year, we had 46 people who were assigned to work for us," said Matt Martin, director of TNP. "There have been 29 who completed their court-ordered hours and eight who are still working to complete their assignments. Nine failed to complete the program."
Gysegem said the program is a win-win-win for the courts, the city and those convicted of the misdemeanors.
"The thing here provides our court, for the first time ever, a meaningful community service program and at a low cost to us," Gysegem said. "Instead of stacking the jail with these non-violent offenders, they can work off their sentences or fines and costs by contributing to the community."
The judge described them as contract employees of the court without the city assuming the burden of hiring more employees and growing government.
"It benefits those convicted because the do not have to spend any time in jail, nor do they have to pay fines," Gysegem said. "For some, it also gives them a pride of doing something for their community.
It takes about $30,000 a year to operate the program, Martin said. Warren Municipal Court provides about two thirds of the money. The court's funds come from costs and fines.
"The court's portions of the program is not costing taxpayers any money," Gysegem said.
Although the program began in late spring 2012, Gysegem said it nearly broke even last year. With an additional four months to operate in 2013, Gysegem said he expects the program to break even.
Martin said TNP provided a truck and the Trumbull County Landbank provided a van.
"We are hoping the city will provide us with about $5,000 through its Community Development Block Grant program," Martin said. "We want to use some of the money to purchase some plywood to continue to board up window and doors."
The city is helped by this program because approximately 80 percent of work assignments are boarding up homes.
"The city also is saving money because it costs between $65 and $85 to put someone in the county jail, according to its most recent contract," Gysegem said. "For every person we do not put in jail, the city saves money on their contract with the county."
The program also helps the city because it provides a rapid response to boarding up abandoned houses.
"There have been occasions in which we were able to secure houses before they were vandalized," Martin said. "Some homes have been kept secure enough that when they were sold more than a year later, they still had all of their wiring and plumbing, making it less expensive for the next owner to make them liveable."
The program was created in April 2012 through the collaboration between Jeff Hovanic, a Warren Municipal court bailiff, and Martin, who worked with a similar program in Cleveland called Court Community Service that started in 1985.
"We are working with Cleveland Municipal Court, some suburban courts and Cuyahoga County Court," Paul Klodor, the director of the Cleveland program, said. "We have a lot of people who cannot pay their fines and court costs, as a condition of their probation, and in lieu of people serving jail time."
There have been approximately 200,000 referrals made to the program since its inception. Today, it receives between 12,000 and 14,000 referrals a year.
Its referrals are assigned to up to 300 nonprofits for work and there are up to eight to 10 work crews sent around the county to do work.
Locally, Martin says that as more houses are boarded up and others are demolish through state programs, the program's focus may shift to restoration.
"I would like to see the program expand to the county courts, but only if it's something that works for them," Martin said. "This is an ongoing discussion."


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The Mets have released veteran second baseman Luis Castillo, eating the $6 million remaining on his contract, according to multiple reports.
Castillo was reportedly informed during a meeting this morning.
"I said I came here to play and you didn't give me the chance. You didn't use me," Castillo told Newsday he said in the meeting, according to reporter Jim Baumbach on Twitter.
The move leaves Dan Murphy, Brad Emaus, Justin Turner and Luis Hernandez vying for the starting job.

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Mobile payments are frequently discussed and written about, but all too often it is without specificity or exactly "how" mobile payments will work and why. The mobile payment opportunity for the wireless industry, from a simple back of the envelope calculation, is significant. The payment card industry, which is dominated by banks, collected $48 billion in interchange fees alone in 2008 – these are the fees paid by merchants to process card payments.. This is roughly $15 of potential monthly ARPU based on 270 million subscribers.
Today's payment value chain is already well defined and this $48+ billion excludes the wireless industry. How the wireless industry creates and captures value in payments requires an alternative perspective and a look at new payment networks that can redefine the value chain, integrate directly into the wireless ecosystem and deliver better, simpler and more secure payments.
The Situation:
The wireless industry is, without a doubt, one of the most interesting and hottest sectors in the U.S. economy, with extraordinary leaps of progress reported almost daily. Mobile phones are getting smarter, running all sorts of applications to the point where they are more computer than telephone. Simultaneously, the wireless networks are expanding coverage and transmitting increasing amounts of voice and data traffic – and this is before the quantum expansion of bandwidth (and capital) associated with 4G technologies.
In short, it is a great time to be a mobile customer, but to be a supplier in the mobile ecosystem may be a different story. The value created in the industry quickly shifts from the corporate coffers to the consumer. The high-fixed, low-variable cost structure of the industry and the lowered switching costs enabled by number portability has commoditized the core voice traffic. This dynamic threatens to do the same with data traffic as competition will likely continue unabated. Again, it's great to be a customer.
On the device side, technological obsolescence is a growing and real risk. The continuous flow of new devices and capabilities – think iPhone, Android and the flood of apps – that promise to remake the industry and attract (or steal) new customers pose enormous capital allocation challenges. Each new device often requires a carrier-funded subsidy to meet consumer price points and, on top of that, require marketing investments that begin to resemble the launching of a Hollywood movie with potentially the same risks. Is it going to be a hit? A flop? Can I do a sequel?
The prepaid market is also not immune to the forces afflicting the larger postpaid market. As the prepaid segment has evolved, it too has become more competitive. Some carriers are hitting very aggressive price points and others are introducing new combinations of plans and devices to attract and retain subscribers.
Looking back over the last 10+ years of CTIA data, some interesting facts emerge, which then lead to a very big question.
The average local monthly bill has been essentially flat over the last six to seven years while the number of minutes has skyrocketed.
Subscribers largely fueled the revenue growth to create the industry as it stands today. Recently, data revenues have begun filling in as aggregate subscriber count plateaus. However, like talk time, data revenue will fall victim to similar marginal cost pricing, but this time around, there are not 200 million untapped subscribers like there were in 1999.
The Big Question:
So, the big question is: Where is the revenue going to come from to fuel the significant investments required to remain competitive, be it 4G infrastructure or the latest device, or likely both? Adding to the uncertainty is the ongoing encroachment of new non-traditional competitors that are shifting the competitive landscape and delivering disruptive technologies such as voice over IP, broadband Wi-Fi and a myriad of device "apps."
An area that is often mentioned as the answer to the industry's future revenue is mobile payments and commerce. These discussions, at least the ones I know of, all presume an end state of mobile commerce from which everyone is going to make money. It is somewhat reminiscent of the saying, "Do you want to make a million dollars? First, start with a million dollars."
The only area of mobile payments with any measurable volume thus far is the market for low-ticket digital content where the amount is charged to the mobile phone bill. This is a segment that came together quickly, and where carriers presumably make a decent profit, but it is an inherently constrained niche owing to the underlying costs, revenue cycles and monthly charge limits.
iPhone and Android can turn any song you already have into a ringtone with a click, threatening the revenues from one type of product sold "successfully" through today's mobile "bill-to-carrier" commerce models. New products will fill in, such as digital sushi or poker chips, and carriers will continue to profit. Charging products to the mobile phone bill, however, is not going to penetrate the competitive, massive market of payments. Nor will it morph into a broad-based world of mobile commerce where seamless blending of hardware and software enable a wide range of payments with ease and security.
The large market for payments, which we often associate with credit and debit cards, and to a lesser extent paper checks, is dominated by the banking sector. Individual account issuance, transaction routing and merchant acquiring are enormously profitable with comparatively little balance sheet, volatility and risk.
For carriers, this large market for payments is an untapped arena where they can create value for subscribers and generate recurring service fees. For device OEMs, payments represent a brand new competitive frontier where winning designs and engineering will capture both the imagination and market share.
The Opportunity:
Card companies raked in approximately $48 billion in interchange fees from retailers and service providers in 2008, a 14 percent jump over 2007 (source: Reuters 6/4/09). These interchange fees exclude any related account or service fees and is equal to $14.81 in monthly ARPU ($48 billion/270 million subs/12 months). Not all of that is up for grabs. Interchange is spread across card issuers, merchant acquirers and the associations, e.g., Visa and MasterCard.
The banking industry's efforts around RFID stickers are an effort to circumvent carriers and OEMs in anticipation of any potential consumer demand for "mobile" payments. Likewise, the bill-to-carrier model and past efforts such as Simpay were attempts by carriers to unilaterally get into payments. Simpay was unsuccessful for a range of reasons and, as discussed above, the existing bill-to-carrier model is limited.
The banking sector is well entrenched and extracts significant value in its role in payments. The massive, multi-trillion dollar retail and service industries fight to keep cost of payment acceptance down and the consumer votes every day on what method of bank-provided payment they choose. These three constituencies combine to fully define and occupy the payment market and its value chain. The ability for parties in the wireless industry to profitably penetrate the existing payment value chain is, consequently, limited. To a very large extent the "pie" is fixed and all the slices are spoken for. Why would anyone accept higher prices, concede fee revenue or change behavior?
It is in this large market that mobile payments will succeed, or not. For it to succeed, the payment value chain will need to be disrupted with the mobile companies partnering with payment providers that can alter the economics of the transaction and improve convenience and security. This will provide the necessary catalyst to drive change and the incentives to support massive adoption. Partnering with an alternative, non-card based payment network is the most likely scenario for carriers and OEM's to create and extract value in payments, and disrupt the existing hegemony that protects the payments sector.
Conrad Sheehan is the founder and CEO of mPayy.


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Here I sit, still riding high off the luxuriant fumes of the Christmas that WAS. The Christmas that could, the one that DID.
You'll have to pardon me if I sound overly reminiscent as I (sort of) wax poetic about the current state of bliss that I'm floating around in. It's been rather a trip to get here, where all of the hard work is starting to pay off and my little family is still intact. With toddlers in tow, thus rowdily so; imperfectly so.
Last Christmas, as much as I tried to pretend it wasn't, it was indeed one of the darkest times my relationship had ever seen and we we'rent sure if we'd come out of it together. Well, we did and this family thing is everything it's cracked up to be in those movies with the sappy, happy endings and then some.
I'll take my stereotypical, near-matrimonial, parent-hood happiness with glee. Acknowledging that with our (not-so) everyday privilege comes such benefits as being given the time, resources and environments to nurture our little family. To create such magical memories and scenes that I'm now day-dreaming about in 2014.
The Family That Could 1 of 13
This past Christmas truly was our most wonderful time of the year!
New Traditions 2 of 13
I've always been on the fence about getting a real tree. You know, that silly, pesky environment of ours and all. That and trees being sacred. Clean oxygen is good, right? But then, not much compares to the experience of cutting down one's own family tree. And the smell. Not all of the evergreen scented candles in all the land can replicate that smell. Besides, upon deeper reflection I realized fake trees are made of ghastly, mostly toxic things and real Christmas trees are farmed specifically for our North American desires. So. Bring on the real trees forever-more.
Tree Trimming 3 of 13
Lots of sawing and watching. Lots of hot chocolate with marshmallows and coffee with bailey's consuming. Putting up a real tree is a pain in the arse every time and worth it every time. Even when disaster strikes. (More on that later.) In fact my tree is still up and while I know I have to take it down sometime this week, the thought does pain me. The house will seem so empty and when I told the kids last night that it had to come down and all of the decorations and lights around the house had to go back into their boxes, they were at once shocked and totally unimpressed. Can't Christmas just last all winter long?
The Tree That Could 4 of 13
So about the disaster. Our magnificent tree fell. I was in the kitchen prepping dinner and the kids were elbows deep in markers, crayons and stickers when I caught the quiver out of the corner of my eye. (Another coup for open-concept homes.) Instinctually, I ran over to where she began her great descent and caught her just inches before eating floor. We got it back up as you can see. It was all quite traumatizing, admittedly humorous upon retrospect.
Carols and Feasting 5 of 13
All of the very best parts that make up a superb holiday, AMIRITE? (As long as I'm not singing the carols I'm good.) Also related, lots of movie watching, specifically of the Christmas kind, was in popular demand all throughout our break together. I'm satisfied to report that my children are officially obsessed with the holidays. My work in that department is done.
Baking and Gifting Handmade Presents Together 6 of 13
Lots of baking happened over here during the holidays, as it does in many a home. This year my little ones were old enough to really take part in helping, from the baking to the packaging and wrapping of for teachers and neighbours. That's the stuff right there, the moments that make all the meltdowns, food flinging and drop-kicks worth it.
Cuddle Parties 7 of 13
Seeing so many friends and family that we don't get to see very often meant for lots of occasions that called for dressing up, twirling in party dresses and sweet cuddles at every turn.
The Family That Dresses Up Together Stays Together 8 of 13
It's true. Also? the family that sits on (or near), Santa's lap together is also destined to stay together. I think my most favourite things about our holidays together was watching Abby and Wyndham's friendship as siblings really start to develop and all of the cute little games they made up and played together that didn't involve a single toy. Just they and their imaginations.
Play Knows No Gender 9 of 13
Little girls who play with planes and trains and little boys who bake and rock little babies to sleep. All of their own inquiry and/or volition. More of that please!
Seeing Friends Old & New 10 of 13
Ringing in the New Year with newer friends and travelling for miles to see old and dear ones. We've made a tradition out of treking about once a year to see those who live far away and I love that we're staying connected all throughout our kids' lives. Makes for special friendships to last a life-time, two generations deep.
The Night Before Christmas 11 of 13
These two definitely weren't silent and the excitement was full-blown. It took us a bit longer than anticipated to get Wyndham and Abby into bed after writing Santa welcome letters and leaving out cookies and milk and carrots. As much as I loved my babies' respective 1st Christmases, this year topped the cake for me. This was the year that they both really 'got it'. Full-on magic mode all to do with family, love, and Santa. It's the sort of thing you daydream about during the holidays when your babies are wee and then all of a sudden, BOOM, you're in it. I'm particularly feeling warm and fuzzy about our families heirloom (to be), Pendleton stockings that I made. Treasured and coveted on high those are.
The Big Morning 12 of 13
We unwrapped presents slowly and majestically. Everything was amazing to them, right down to a pack of dollar-store stickers. That first glimpse of the tree and the presents as they turned the hallway corner into the living room is pretty much tattooed into my brain.
And The Winner Is… 13 of 13
There were many loved gifts, but when asked what they loved most about the holidays at dinner last night, Abby and Wyndham both agreed that Daddy taking a break from work to, 'hang-out lots' with them was the highlight. Then came the 'oh yeas', over the drum set, the train track extension set and roundhouse, the calico critters, The Wizard of Oz and World Map family jigsaw puzzles, and the Living Sands sensory bin. They've been immersed in going back and forth between these activities and toys non-stop.
More Babbles From Selena…
- A Daddy's Love
- 10 Things I'll Never Regret Doing With My Kids
- 7 New Year's Resolutions I Hope My Toddlers Make For 2014
- 10 Ways We Stay Sane With Toddlers During The Winter Break
- 20 Unique Challenges That Parents of Toddlers Face Everyday
Selena is a crafty, culinary mom. Regular writer here and on Disney Baby. Part-time mischief maker, all the time geek. Elsewhere on the Internets … Via her humble beginnings, mastering in general mayhem: le petit rêve


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— From "The Glorious Foods of Greece: Traditional Recipes from Islands, Cities, and Villages" by Diane Kochilas (William Morrow, 2001). Makes 4 servings.
3 cups coarsely chopped greens from spring onions (reserve the bulbs for another use)
1/3 cup extra-virgin olive oil, or more to taste
2 to 4 tablespoons red wine vinegar
Salt to taste
1. Wash and drain the greens.
2. Toss together with the oil and vinegar. Season with salt and serve.
Nutrition information per 3 1/2-ounce serving: 190 calories; 170 calories from fat; 1g protein; 6g carbs; 2g sugar; 19g total fat; 2.5g saturated fat; 0mg cholesterol; 2g dietary fiber; 160mg sodium; 6% Daily Values calcium; 6% Daily Values iron.


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Last season's final game is etched in the memory bank of the Fort Dodge softball team.
The Dodgers lost a 1-0 regional final to eventual state champion Ankeny - a painful outcome that has this youthful group more determined than ever.
"These girls are very driven to pick up where we left off last year,'' said head coach Andi Adams, who sports a 457-208 record entering her 13th season. "We know that we had a chance to win that game and that's our goal to get back to that point.''
Article Photos
Messenger photo by Josh Meyer
Returning letterwinners for the Fort Dodge softball team are front row, left to right: Maddie Bodholdt, Cassie Tjebben, McKinna Teske, Madi Bennett, Megan Gibson and Becca Sunken. Back: Jamie Haden, Lani Van Zyl, Maddie Egli, Taylor Messerly, Lexi Astor, Mallory Kilian.
With six starters back in the field, the Dodgers will lean on an expeirenced group and a strong pitching staff to lead them into a promising future.
"This group has a lot of team chemistry,'' Adams said. "They've done a lot in the offseason and I'm so proud to see how far they've come.
"They'll be fun to watch. They're a very stubborn, focused group. We've been working a lot on the bases and with the speed that we have, we're going to try and cause some chaos on the bases. They've been working hard on defense as well.''
Fact Box
Seniors - Megan Gibson, Taylor Messerly.
Juniors - Lexi Astor, Maddie Bodholdt, Jami Haden, Maddie Egli.
Sophomores - Lani Van Zyl, McKinna Teske, Cassie Tjebben, Mallory Kilian, Becca Sunken, Toryn Pederson, Brielle Ulrich, Riley Hartman, Molly Matthes.
Freshmen - Madi Bennett, Liza Hatcher.
Eighth Grader - Meagan Hartman.
May 24 - Waterloo West; 29 - Carrol Kuemper.
June 1 - at Valley Invitational; 3 - at Marshalltown; 4 - Algona; 7 - Cedar Falls; 10 - Mason City; 12 Dowling; 14-15 - Fort Dodge Invitational; 17 - Ames; 19 - at Waukee; 21-22 - at Linn-Mar Inviational; 24 - Marshalltown; 26 - Ankeny.
July 1 - at Mason City; 3 - at Johnston; 5 - Valley; 8 - at Ames; 11 - regional tournament.
The Dodgers will once again have a lockdown left side of the infield, with sophomores Mallory Kilian (third base) and Lani Van Zyl (shortstop). This will be the third consecutive season that the classmates have started.
Kilian and Van Zyl led the Dodger defense with 96 percent and 93 percent fielding accuracy on 141 and 154 chances respectively.
"These two have been on a mission,'' Adams said. "They played club ball in the fall and had about 10 extra weeks of softball so they could better their game.''
At the plate, Kilian was co-leader in doubles with 11 and had 44 hits with a .364 average. She also drove in 19 runs.
Van Zyl was second in runs scored with 24 and batted .287.
"Mallory and Lani have both taken things to the next level,'' Adams said. "They take softball very seriously.''
First base will be the lone spot to fill in the infield with RBI and average leader Emily Grell graduating.
Junior Maddie Bodholdt, who started some games at third last summer, will take over at first. Bodholdt batted .367 in 25 starts last year.
Freshman Madi Bennett will be back at second base.
"Maddie (Bodholdt) worked hard all winter long and has been doing a good job scooping balls,'' Adams said. "Maddie (Bennett) is a scrapper and was in there as an eighth grader, which takes a lot of poise.''
When Kilian is pitching, freshman Riley Hartman will play third base. Hartman saw action in eight games last season and Adams likes her toughness and her ability on defense to stay in front of the ball.
Senior field general Taylor Messerly is back behind the plate for the Dodgers. Messerly drove in 24 runs last season with 34 hits and batted .291.
"Taylor sees what is going on and is a very alert player,'' Adams said. "She has been stepping it up and has done a lot on her own to get ready for the season."
The Dodgers return a veteran group with junior Maddie Egli (left) and classmate Lexi Astor (center). The duo combined for 81 starts in 41 games a year ago.
Egli led Fort Dodge in triples (four), home runs (three) and is returning as the leader in RBI with 25. She batted .313.
Astor paced the squad in 2012 with 28 runs, 53 hits, 28 stolen bases and a .431 batting average.
"(Egli) has done a great job as far as leadership and has worked on hitting in the offseason,'' Adams said. "Lexi was a third-team all-stater last season. Along with being fast, she has picked up hitting the ball for power.''
Sophomore Brielle Ulrich will take over in right field. Ulrich saw action in six games last season.
"She did well in spring ball and has earned her spot,'' Adams said.
Also reaching the Dodger varsity roster is junior Jamie Haden, sophomores McKinna Teske, Becca Sunken, Toryn Pederson, Molly Matthes and freshman Liza Hatcher.
Kilian will be the main starter for the Dodgers, while sophomore Cassie Tjebben gets the nod in the nightcaps.
Senior Megan Gibson and eighth grader Meagan Hartman are expected to log innings as well.
In 24 appearances, Kilian sported a 12-10 record and a 1.63 ERA with 74 strikeouts.
Tjebben had a 0.90 ERA in 54 innings pitched.
"Mallory has been able to mix it up a lot and is ready to get back in there,'' Adams said. "It's nice to have a couple of pitchers to try and keep teams off-balance and throw different things at them.''
In only the second year of the Central Iowa Conference, the Dodgers are hoping to be in the mix for the championship.
"Ames will be tough with (Kate) Crow back,'' Adams said. "Marshalltown is very scrappy and Mason City has a lot of good athletes at the varsity level.
"We have another incredibly strong cross-conference schedule, with Ankeny, Valley, Dowling, Johnston and Waukee (on the docket).''
Coaching staff
Adams will again be assisted by Tonia Burrell and Marissa (Kinseth) Gruenberg. Emily Grell joins the staff this year.


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A New "Chinatown" Grows in Montreal
On a cold January night, Fabian Jean and his mother, Lily, were enjoying a warming bowl of tong shui (sweet dessert soup) at the Chinese restaurant Prêt à Manger on Ste. Catherine St. West.
"I find it's actually a lot better than the Chinese restaurants in Chinatown," Fabian said.
"It's so hard to park in Chinatown, too," added his mother, who was born in Hong Kong, but moved to Montreal "too long ago to remember."
Lily Jean (the name, which is Toisanese, is pronounced like the jean in blue jeans) and Montreal-born Fabian, an artist who lives on the Plateau, have seen the area west of Concordia University revitalized by students and immigrants.
"It was a struggling part of Ste. Catherine St. for many years," Fabian said. "It's refreshing to see a bit of life here."
The transformation goes beyond Ste. Catherine. In the last few years, thousands of students, immigrants and business owners from Asia have turned the west end of downtown, from Guy St. to Atwater Ave., into a sort of Chinatown West.
The most recent population data available, from the 2001 census, peg the area's proportion of East Asian residents at 16 per cent, but anecdotal evidence suggests that, since then, the area's Chinese population has exploded.
On the tenant directory of a highrise apartment building on Guy St., for instance, nearly a quarter of the 240 names listed are Chinese.
Dozens of new Chinese and Korean businesses have opened in the last five years, ranging from restaurants to grocery stores, travel agencies, hair salons, language schools and even a comic book store.
Last month, Magic Idea, a popular Chinatown bubble-tea café, opened a second location on de Maisonneuve Blvd. near St. Mathieu St. Inside, youthful customers sip away beneath flat-screen televisions playing Mandarin music videos. Hong Kong and Japanese fashion magazines are piled neatly on a table.
"There's a lot of students here," said the café's owner, Eric Zhou, who came to Montreal from Shanghai 17 years ago. "We wanted a place for Asian people to have a good place to relax."
Across the street, in a basement underneath another bubble-tea café, Jasse Wang has sold Chinese translations of Japanese comic books—known as manga—since he moved here from Taiwan three years ago. His customers are mainly students from Concordia and other nearby schools. "People are tired to go to Chinatown," he explained. "It's more convenient here."
Basement entrance to Golden King comics
But a real neighbourhood needs more than just bubble tea, light meals and manga. Perhaps the strongest indication of downtown's emerging Chinese neighbourhood is the opening of several new grocery stores.
Two small Chinese groceries, with a selection of Asian produce, preserves and snacks, can be found on St. Mathieu and Fort Sts. It is on Ste. Catherine near Atwater, however, that the neighbourhood's most impressive new supermarket can be found.
Last September, Daniel Lee and his family opened Marché Oriental Jangte, a bright and airy store that sells Korean, Chinese and Japanese food alongside Asian kitchenware, including a wide selection of rice cookers.
"There is a growing number of Oriental students, specifically Chinese, around the Fort area," said Lee, explaining one of the reasons why his family decided to open a store downtown. "There was a demand, but we also created demand" by opening a store that would appeal to Asian and non-Asian customers alike.
As a student at Concordia, where he's finishing a degree in accounting and finance, Lee has first-hand experience in the changing demographics of the downtown's west end. The growing Asian population has changed the way business is done, he said. His family's venture seems to be paying off. On a recent night, one of their customers was Jinoh, a Korean engineering student at Concordia who lives near the Monk metro station. He often drops by Jangte on his way home from class. "It's very convenient," he said.
But convenience is only part of the story. Foreign students, drawn by downtown's proximity to schools, served as a catalyst for its transformation into a more multicultural place. But now the number of Chinese residents and businesses has reached a critical mass and Montrealers from all corners of the city are being drawn downtown. A new neighbourhood has been born.
Marché Jangte on Ste. Catherine St. West
Some new features of a new neighbourhood
- Marché Oriental Jangte, 2109 Ste. Catherine St. W. Korean, Japanese and Chinese supermarket.
- Prêt à Manger, 1809 Ste. Catherine St. W. Home-style Cantonese cuisine – order from the red menu!
- Magic Idea, 1675 de Maisonneuve Blvd. W. Bubble tea and hot snacks to the tune of Chinese pop music.
- Golden King, 1672 de Maisonneuve Blvd. W. Chinese-language manga.
- Dragon Supermarché, 1425 Fort St., and Marche Chunping, 1443 St. Mathieu St. Chinese produce, preserves and snacks.
- Bao Dao Taiwan, Faubourg Ste. Catherine, 3rd floor. Taiwanese comfort food and sweet drinks.
This article was originally published in the Urban Life section of the Montreal Gazette on February 1, 2007.
Tags: Chinatown, Identity, Migration, Montreal
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Sounds like a far more interesting neighbourhood than when I studied at Concordia 10 years ago. The only culinary highlight then was Montreal's only 25 cent pizza store (which had half as many toppings as the usual unpalatable 50 cent pizza).
Then Soups and Noodles came along–though General Tao chicken is hardly authentic Chinese food, they do a pretty good version of it.
Guess I'll have to check out the area next time I'm in Montreal–dessert soup mmmmm….
February 2nd, 2007 at 4:37 pm
Yeah, Soup and Noodles is part of the old guard of noodle shops now.
A word of advice: Prêt à Manger serves tong shui for free after every meal, but you have to ask for it.
February 3rd, 2007 at 12:40 am
Great article about an intriguing part of the city. Really glad to see the Korean population starting to have an impact on Montreal's urban landscape. Can't wait to check out Marché 장터.
I seem remember a significant Arab presence in this neighbourhood as well – shawarma joints, hooka bars, video stores, etc. Maybe these businesses cater to Condordia's large Middle Eastern student population rather than permanent residents?
This section of downtown had such a youthful vibe when I lived in Montreal (2004). It always seemed fresh and a bit experimental, and absolutely multi-cultural. Concordia really oozes into the streets of the city here, where as McGill's campus seems much more defined and a bit disconnected from its surroundings.
February 4th, 2007 at 1:40 am
David, downtown's Arab population is the untold story here. (I would have loved to do a more nuanced profile of the neighbourhood but the Gazette would only give me 650 words!) Montreal has a very large Arab population and Concordia draws heavily not only from local immigrant communities but also from the Middle East itself. So the Arab presence in this area, which overlaps with the East Asian presence, is a bit of both.
You're right about Concordia—it really defines the west part of downtown. (The very fact that there are so many 24-hour businesses in so few blocks is a testament to the spending power of students!) Although it is more contained, McGill has a pretty profound impact on the surrounding area, but it is mitigated by the fact that the north side of campus runs into the mountain; the west side bleeds into a dull area of Victorian mansions and postwar highrises, with commerce limited to apartment building lobbies; and the south side runs into the central business district. Only on the east side—the McGill Ghetto—can McGill's true force be felt, but even then the commercial impact is limited by zoning restrictions. Only on Park Avenue and in a few parts of Milton Street are there many businesses. In the downtown west end, the "Concordia Ghetto," there is retail on every street.
February 4th, 2007 at 2:34 am
Nice article!
The way this neighbourhood has been changing in the last few years is quite interesting to me, and it's something I've kept an eye on since the movie theatre opened in the Forum, which usually gets me out there a couple of times a week. Around that time there seemed to be a real push to fancify the retail locations on that strip of Ste-Catherine; all that's evident of that now is that dilapidated block east of the Forum with its boarded-up shops.
Food-wise the area has really opened up; for a while you really had to walk over to the Faubourg to grab a half-decent bite. Thankfully Manchuria, Pret, Bulgogi et al have changed that.
February 4th, 2007 at 12:27 pm
The phenomenon of immigrant neighborhoods seeding successors – Flushing and Sunset Park in New York's outer boroughs are now much larger than Manhattan's own Chinatown – is not new. Odd, though, that Montreal's latest one has cropped up in a neighborhood far denser than that from which it sprang. It seems to defy the pattern of immigrants chasing larger lawns and ample auto access.
I don't know if anyone's ever looked into the effect of heavy Asian university populations on student neighborhoods. There is a distinctly higher representation of Asian businesses around Columbia, for one- including Japanese and Korean convenience store chains.
February 5th, 2007 at 4:29 pm
I think the reason for that is that this isn't a typical immigrant neighbourhood. The Asian population in this area is *young*. Even most of the non-student immigrants who live around there are in their 20s and 30s. Also, not all of Asian business owners, customers and students who flock to this area actually live there—many of the people I spoke to lived in Brossard, a South Shore suburb that is about 1/3 Asian.
One area that fits the typical pattern of immigrant settlement is Verdun. Over the past seven years it has seen an influx of mainland Chinese immigrants, mostly young couples with children. The community there probably took root because Verdun is still exceptionally cheap, it is well-served by the metro and it has particularly spacious apartments.
February 5th, 2007 at 6:29 pm
As for the impact of Asian students, you're right that this is tremendously overlooked. Did you see the New York Times' special section on "The Asian Campus" a few weeks back? The same thing is true in Canada and it has had an obvious impact on downtown commercial areas. A large part of downtown Vancouver has turned into a Japanese and Korean student ghetto; over the past couple of years I've notice a similar Korean student neighbourhood emerge in downtown Calgary.
Strangely enough all three of these neighbourhoods, in Vancouver, Calgary and Montreal, have arisen in areas either known as the West End or the "downtown west end." They're all dominated by 1960s and 70s concrete highrises. Odd coincidence.
I hear it's the same story in downtown Toronto around Yonge Street. Isn't there a part of the East Village in Manhattan that is dominated by twentysomething Japanese?
February 5th, 2007 at 6:33 pm
St. Mark's Place in the East Village is filled with Japanese restaurants, but it's also well-known for its kitsch value and attracts far more NYU students and Jersey night-trippers than actual Japanese, although it could be that the majority of Japanese expats in New York gravitate there and are simply overshadowed by urban collegiate types. There are similar microneighborhoods on side streets throughout the EVil; 6th between 2nd and 1st Avenues is packed with Indian restaurants, and there's a Little Ukraine around there somewhere. Both are disappearing slowly (Little Ukraine moreso) with the invasion of higher end variants on their respective themes, or merely the diversification of neighborhood culinary tastes. None of these areas has had an actual resident immigrant population (nor do they seem to draw local immigrants) in recent memory; they're shells, much like Little Italy further downtown.
The Times story was primarily about Berkeley, and it would probably be more fruitful to look at universities in California and Michigan, where state voter bans on affirmative action have resulted in exploding Asian student populations. I know there hasn't really been a corresponding expansion in services targeted toward Asian students in Boston, for whatever reason.
February 5th, 2007 at 8:59 pm
Since my article was published just six weeks ago, four new businesses have opened up in this new "Chinatown West."
— La Maison du Nord, a Northern Chinese restaurant
— An izakaya-type place that has been packed every time I walked by
— A soon-to-be-opened Chinese restaurant whose logo is identical to that of Fairwood, a big Hong Kong chain
— A trendy (key word trendy) Asian hair salon that wouldn't be out of place in Vancouver. It's the first such upscale Asian salon I've seen in Montreal—all of the others are bare-bones $12-haircut, slice-off-your-ear kind of places.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:43 pm
hey. the aforementioned "trendy asian hair salon"…you didnt say the address?? or does no such thing exist? if you could tell me ASAP that would be great. i want to get a cut tomorrow!!
April 23rd, 2008 at 6:32 pm
I don't know the exact address, but you'll find it right next door to Jangte, the Korean supermarket. I make no guarantees as to its quality/trendiness.
April 24th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Hi, do you know the location of the Chinatown in Brossard? Whenever my parents come to visit me in Montreal, we always end up in the Old Chinatown (la Gauchetiere), so it would be great to check out the one on the South Shore, esp. if there's free parking there. Thanks for your help!
June 26th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
The Gazette has run a fairly lengthy feature by Sarah Musgrave about the new Chinatown:
Call it Chinatown West, Chinatown 2, or Chinatown, part deux – or even Young Chinatown, given the large student population that keeps it humming well into the evening – the result is that Montreal has a fuller picture of East Asian cuisine than it ever did before. Roughly bounded by Guy St. to the east and Atwater Ave. to the west, with worthy addresses running between Sherbrooke and Ste. Catherine streets, this section of downtown has come alive with Asian eateries. (…)
Then there was the appearance of dishes many of us in the city hadn't seen before: a Manchurian dumpling place, a spot that served up searing Szechuan dishes under the guise of a bubble tea emporium, a table laden with skewered brochettes of lamb or chicken gizzards sprinkled with cumin and chilies, and most recently, an outpost of a Hong Kong-style bakery offering steamed buns in the Guy métro. Slowly, a new Chinatown was born. The district now boasts more than 50 addresses, including supermarkets for Asian ingredients and eateries serving everything from hand-pulled noodles to mackerel dumplings, Szechuanese kung pao chicken and Korean kogos.
Read the rest here.
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Every morning, we compile the links of the day and dump them here… highlighting the big storyline. Because there's nothing quite as satisfying as a good morning dump.
The San Antonio Spurs are champions again, and like most coaches around the NBA, Stevens was in awe of how they methodically toppled the Heat to win the title.
"It's clear that we're all chasing them," Stevens said.
He also gushed about the Spurs' selflessness, especially from their bench players.
"I just think everybody is so locked in to their role and trying to be the best teammate they can be," Stevens said.
"Against us, they didn't have three of their starters the second time they came here and they drilled us. I think that's who they've been all year. They've been able to sit guys, rest guys, do all that stuff and never miss a beat.''
"The way that they played and the way that their young guys have increased their roles and the way that their old guys have continued to play great and accept those young guys — at the end of the day, it's been a great thing to emulate."
Boston Globe – Celtics looking at lottery guys and long shots
The San Antonio Spurs destroyed the two-time defending champion Miami Heat with beautiful, team-oriented basketball that involved incredible spacing and ball movement on offense. In every league, you see teams try to emulate the blueprint of the current champions. The Celtics, who sort of created this style of play in the late 50's and 60's, are now looking at the Spurs as the path back to greatness. All they need is the next Tim Duncan. Kidding aside, it is an admirable goal and one that should definitely be pursued. Generally, I think most teams in the NBA (at least the better ones) could play like the Spurs, but it requires sacrifice and changing habits that have been ingrained in players from such an early age. There is something to the AAU culture as well as the ESPN culture. They grow up watching how superstars get all the attention and fanfare. They get it early by shoe companies and through the NCAA. Are they solely responsible? No, but it doesn't help.
If you watch the Spurs closely, they are a beautiful team to watch, but there are a lot of basic basketball principles that any professional team should be able to execute and sustain over a long period of time. Think about it. How often do you check a Spurs box score to check on individual stats as opposed to the gaudy team stats? How many teams do you actually do that for? If Brad Stevens and the Celtics are aiming at this goal then pay close attention to the players they draft and acquire. They discussed having depth as a start, but they also still need to get the talent. The Spurs still play as a team, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking they don;t have star players. Duncan is in the discussion as one of the greatest to ever play the game. Tony Parker is one of the best point guards in the league and Manu Ginobili can still bring an Argentinian Army Knife set of skills. Oh and yeah, they have a budding star and Finals MVP in Kawhi Leonard. The C's have some work to do, but they could do much worse having a long-term goal as emulating the Spurs. They could even simply look back at the own illustrious history and watch how the teams of the 60's and even Tommy Heinsohn's coached teams of the 70's played.
Page 2: Antoine Walker revisits Boston with a new documentary
If you've been a fan of the more recent Celtics, then you're probably well aware of Antoine Walker's financial troubles. Since his playing career ended, there have been several stories about how Walker lost $100 million (give or take a few million) by loaning money to friends, investing in some bad ventures and also gambling debts. Walker tweeted out that he has a new documentary coming out soon. Unfortunately he's not the first NBA player or athlete to have gone through this, and he likely won't eb the last. Hopefully, Walker's message can be useful in a similar way that another former Celtic's has been, that of Chris Herren. Take a look at the preview below:
Gone In An Instant 30sec tease from It's The ComeBack Kids on Vimeo.
The rest of the links:
ESPN Boston – Good in green: Napier visits Boston | Notebook: Auditions and callbacks
Boston Globe – In visit with Celtics, Shabazz Napier can't hide his hometown colors | LeBron James, Miami Heat have decision to make | Jabari Parker draws raves for his scoring prowess
Boston Herald – Roxbury's Shabazz Napier right at home in green | LeBron James' future view
CSNNE – Napier hoping to prove heart more than measures up | Draft Prospect Breakdowns: UCLA's Zach LaVine | Blakely: LeBron to Clippers makes sense
WEEI – Shabazz Napier feels he has the 'heart' to lead an NBA team
MassLive – Shabazz Napier's winning pedigree stands out to Boston Celtics | Boris Diaw explains almost joining Boston Celtics before joining San Antonio Spurs in 2012 | Rajon Rondo once delivered a metaphorical 'knockout punch' to Marcus Williams during Boston Celtics pre-draft workout, says Autsin Ainge
USA Today – Tim Duncan 'at the top' with NBA greats after 5th title
Pioneer Press – Tom Powers: Trading disrespectful Kevin Love might not be Wolves' best move


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We've recently seen a swag of trailers for BioWare's upcoming Star Wars epic but it's their E3 trailers that are so special, and this one is no different.
Words don't cut it from here, just feast your eyes on this incredible opening cinematic from the game and start doing your budget to make sure you can afford the monthly sub.
Star Wars: The Old Republic is a PC exclusive and is due in October this year.


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HUNTSVILLE, Alabama – A crowd of cyberspace experts will be on hand during this week's North Alabama Cyber Security Summit at Von Braun Center South Hall in downtown Huntsville.
Presented by Cyber Huntsville and the North Alabama Information Systems Security Association, this year's theme will be "Effective Governance through Risk Management."
Dynetics, the diamond sponsor, will present solutions for diagnostics and monitoring, advanced persistence threat reverse engineering and energy assurances at the sixth-annual conference, which will be held June 4-5.
"We are pleased to be the primary sponsor for this conference," said Jonathan Whitcomb, Dynetics vice president for Enterprise Solutions. "Huntsville is particularly sensitive to cyber threats because of Redstone Arsenal and the large amount of space and defense work that takes place here. It's important that the community is educated on the latest threats and how to protect against them."
Summit speakers will include retired Lt. Gen. Peter Cuviello, lead client partner of Deloitte Consulting LLP; Jonathan Pettus, NASA Marshall Space Flight Center CIO; retired Lt. Gen. Ronald Burgess, Auburn University; Ron Ross, NIST Computer Security Division; Michele Cantley, Regions Bank CISO; Rosemary Wenchel, DHS cybersecurity coordination; and Jeremy Conway, founder of SudoSecure.
Click here to read more about the event.
Dynetics and the EC-Council Foundation will sponsor the Rocket City TakeDownCon from Aug. 18-19 at the Dynetics Solutions Complex. The national security forum will focus on the latest cyber vulnerabilities, exploits and security threats.
For more information, visit www.takedowncon.
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Allan McGeough, executive director of the Mid-Dakota Chapter of the American Red Cross, left, accepts a $3,500 check from Jason Henke, general manager of Don Bessette Motors Wednesday. Don Bessette Motors donated $50 from every car sold in June to the Red Cross to help with flood relief locally.
Taube Museum plans Tour of Homes
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The Taube Museum of Art's annual Holiday Tour of Homes fundraiser is expanded this year on a theme inspired by the 2011 Souris River Flood.
The effort to organize this year's tour was complicated by the flood, but Taube executive director Nancy Walter said this added to the theme.
"Many of the homes are housing other families or they're storing household items," she said. "So it's been a challenge this year."
The tour will travel among seven locations Dec. 3 from noon to 4 p.m., including:
- Ryan & Kristen Boen - 1530 Cook Dr.
- Scott & Darci Grosche - 916 54th St. SE
- Brent & Marsha Mugaas - 1127 Valley View Dr.
- Brock & Elly DesLauriers - Flood Recovered Home - 1700 5th Ave SW
- Dani Solsvig - FEMA Trailer - 590 8th St. NW.
- First Presbyterian Church & Lincoln School - 1000 3rd St. NE.
- St. Mark's Lutheran Church - 2209 4th Ave NW.
Afterwards, participants can enjoy refreshments at the Taube.
Tickets can be purchased in advance at the Taube Museum of Art, Artmain, Artistry, the Convention and Visitors Bureau and Interiors Plus. Tickets are $12 for nonmembers, $10 for members, and $15 at the door.
Conrad makes appointments to service academies
Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., has nominated nine North Dakota students for appointments to the nation's service academies.
Among area students, nominations to the U.S. Air Force Academy went to Trevor Hoggan and Miles Way, both students at Minot High School-Magic City Campus.
A nomination to the U.S. Military Academy at West Point went to Jack Fagerland, a senior at Minot High School-Magic City Campus.
The armed service academies require potential students to be nominated by either a member of Congress or the Vice president as the first step in a long application process. Final appointments are determined by the academies, selecting from a nationwide list of nominees. Once accepted, the students are given scholarships to the distinguished educational institutions as well as a full military appointment.
RAFT sets giveaway for this weekend
The Resource Agency Flood Team, or RAFT, is sponsored by 13 faith-based and community-based agencies working collaboratively in case management.
The group has been collecting the following items in anticipation of a giveaway scheduled for Saturday at Vincent United Methodist Church at the northwest door: New and gently used winter coats and jackets, mittens, hats, thermal wear for all ages/sizes, children's Comfort Kits for ages 1-7, baby blankets, new children's toys, paint (all white/gallon size), and gently used children's books.
Much of what the group provides is essential information and resources. Clients who have a genuine unmet need are represented at the Souris River Basin Unmet Needs Committee.
The deadline to register for RAFT is Dec. 1. Applications are available through many different places in Minot, among them Lutheran Social Services, Human Services, Ward County Social Services, Vincent United Methodist Church.


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About an hour and half later, the Blazers' own game finished up, with the Magic getting a 107-104 win at the Rose Garden.
Portland (7-3) suffered its first home defeat, and now has to hit the road for its first extended road trip -- a real doozie that will see them play six games in nine days, starting against those undefeated-at-home Spurs.
Scary, right?
Except there's this: The Blazers should be able to handle this trip and come back with a reasonable result, say, 4-2 or even 5-1. Certainly, the challenge of traveling on a trip that starts in San Antonio and ends in Toronto is daunting, but on paper, most of these games are ones Portland should have a chance to win.
Only two of Portland's opponents have winning records - San Antonio (7-4) and Atlanta (7-4). The Blazers will also play Houston (3-7), New Orleans (3-7), Toronto (4-7) and Detroit (2-8).
The trip includes two back-to-backs. Two of the Blazers' three losses this season came in the second games of back-to-backs, meaning they could struggle in those on the trip too, right?But here's where the schedule starts to even out. The Blazers lost at Phoenix after beating the Lakers the night before while the Suns had two days off before the matchup. Last night's loss to Orlando came after the Blazers beat the Clippers on Tuesday, while the Magic had last played Sunday.
But both second games of the back-to-backs on the trip -- at Houston and at Detroit -- come against teams that also will have played the night before.
Before Wednesday's loss, Blazers coach Nate McMillan was asked about the words of some his players, who have expressed a desire to try to achieve something big this season. McMillan talked about preparing for one game at a time, but also added:
"One thing I've said to our guys, if we keep both feet in, commit to each other and work at it, I think they'll give themselves a chance to win big."
The trip figures to be a good test of that.
Other tidbits, notes and links from Wednesday's game:
• If the Blazers had just made one or two plays or caught a break here and there, there might have been some regretful fans. Many fans at the Rose Garden started leaving when Dwight Howard's free throw with 1:09 left pushed the lead back up to nine. The Blazers, though, had one more run in them, and actually cut the deficit to two with 21 seconds left.If the Blazers had finished the comeback, it would have been like a game against Denver last season, when many fans had left and missed Brandon Roy's three-pointer that sent the game to overtime, and the Blazers went on to win.
• The O's John Canzano, like the guys in "Animal House," basically yells "Road trip!" and writes that the Blazers could use the trip as a way to bond and find themselves.
• Blazers guard Jamal Crawford shook off his recent shooting woes with a big night, scoring a game-high 24 points and shooting 10 for 17 from the field, including 3 for 6 from three-point range.
This one had a real familiarity to it for both Crawford and the Magic. Crawford, then playing for Atlanta, torched Orlando during the first round of the playoffs last season, averaging 20.5 points in the Hawks' 4-2 series win.
"Jamal Crawford, we have plenty of history with," Magic coach Stan Van Gundy said before the game. "He's hurt us in the past."
Van Gundy has also coached plenty against Blazers forward Gerald Wallace when Wallace was with Charlotte, and he was effusive in praise of Wallace.
"He plays both ends of the floor as well as anybody in the league and he's one of the hardest-playing guys in the league, a true professional just trying to help his team win," Van Gundy said. "As much as you hate to play against a guy like that, we need more guys like him in our league. I think he is one of the great pros in our league."
• Orlando, when it plays well, can be a killer team to defend. The Magic have the league's best center in Howard, and they surround him with three-point shooters. On nights when the shooters are hitting, even the best defensive teams struggle against them because the outside threat forces teams to not pack the paint to try to stop Howard.
"Howard was deep in the post," Blazers coach Nate McMillan said. "The plan was to try and get him off the block, play him straight up and stay with their three-point shooters. But we lost those guys, and they knocked down (shots) every mistake we made. When we tried to defend the perimeter and stay out and play Howard straight up, he punished us in the paint."
The Magic, with two days to prepare, were very sharp.
"I thought our ball movement was the best it had been early in the year," Van Gundy said. "Our energy and ball movement were outstanding."
• Under McMillan, the Blazers always try to win three categories in games -- rebounding, free throws and turnovers. On Wednesday, they managed to outdo the Magic in just one, committing seven turnovers to Orlando's 18.
Portland took 13 free throws to Orlando's 19 (although with Howard's 3-for-12 brickery, the Blazers made more free throws, 12 to 9).
The Magic outrebounded Portland 42-32, continuing a trend. The Blazers have been outrebounded in five consecutive games after getting the edge in the first five games of the season. It's something McMillan is not happy with.
"To continue to win, and as you get into the season and you play against better teams, you're going to have to rebound the ball," McMillan said. "We can't just put it on our centers to rebound. We need our forwards and our guards to become better rebounders."
• After the Blazers conclude the six-game roadie, they get a day back in Portland to prepare for something that does not sound much fun -- their first back-to-back-to-back. The Blazers play games at the Rose Garden against the Kings on Jan. 23 and the Grizzlies the next night, then fly out to Oakland to play the Warriors on Jan. 25.
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Crawfish for a Wish, open to the Tuscaloosa community, will benefit Make-A-Wish Alabama.
The boil begins at 2 p.m. and you can feast until 5 p.m. at 147 Greensboro Avenue, next to Bama Belle.
There will be more than just crawfish, which will be donated by Chuck's Fish, Five and Gallettes. There will also be live entertainment from Sean Rivers and DJ Proto J. You could walk away as the lucky winner of a door prize.
Players from the University of Alabama's 2012 National Championship football team will also appear at the event.
For $10, enjoy a half pound of crawfish and a drink and know you're benefiting a good cause.
For more information, visit the Crawfish for a Wish Facebook page.


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Thread: Open Recovery v1.46 [11/21/2010]
Open Recovery v1.46 [11/21/2010]
Open Recovery
Stable Version: 1.46
Development Version: 1.46 (available only through gitorious)
Credit for mankind (from alldroid) for the CustomUpdate, on which this recovery is based,
credit for poseidon (also from alldroid) for ADBRecovery,
credit for koush for mtd-utils and nandroid (uses script based on it),
credit for nadlabak for keyboard layout change script.
If file "/system/etc/install-recovery.sh" exists on your Milestone, delete it (prior to flashing the SBF). It's created if you applied OTA update. If you do not have root, install Open Recovery, then flash vulnerable recovery and then boot right away to recovery. If you boot normally to system, the vulnerable recovery will be overwritten.
Download the attachment and unpack it in /sdcard/OpenRecovery/bin. This will fix restoring the logo partition.
New backup format is used since 1.30. The recovery supports restoring the backups in the old format.
The backups in old format (there is a file "nandroid.md5" file in the folder) go to folder /sdcard/nandroid/adbrecovery/.
The backups in new format (there is a file "*.md5" file for each partition) go to folder /sdcard/nandroid/openrecovery/.
When flashing 2.1 image from 2.2.1 installed firmware and vice versa, restore always ALL PARITIONS (ext2 is not needed; if unused)!
Themes suplied -> OpenRecovery, Stock ...
Also more themes supplied (not on the screenshot).
Open Recovery on-phone console (only for Milestone) since version 1.37.
Lite / Full concept on the XT701. The lite version is very much like the stock recovery but automatically changes to full version. Lite version shows only if error occurs.
- on-phone console (limited) - MILESTONE ONLY!
- rooting the phone from menu (using ChainsDD su and SuperUser.apk (version 220.127.116.11))
- nandroid backup/restore from menu
- apply update *.zip files from menu (located in OpenRecovery/updates folder under the sdcard root folder, there is a sample one (just unpacks a file named "babble" to /system), no signatures are needed
- special format of update.zip (noted lower)
- wipe data (factory reset)
- wipe cache
- wipe dalvik-cache
- adb in recovery, using bash shell
- run a script located in /sdcard/OpenRecovery/scripts folder under the sdcard root folder, the script can interactively prompt for a menu (sample included)
- recovery options for applications
Download & Installation (MILESTONE):
1) You need to have the vulnerable recovery with exploit, see this thread how to flash it: New SBF - to flash only the rootable recovery
2) Download the archive Open Recovery Version 1.46 for Milestone and unpack it to the root folder of the sdcard.
Usage (MILESTONE):
1) Reboot into recovery (hold 'X' button on bootloader 90.78, on others hold camera button; until you see triangle; then press camera + volume up)
2) Apply the update.zip
3) You are now in Open Recovery
Download & Installation (XT701):
1) Download the archive Open Recovery Version 1.46 for XT701
2) Either flash the sbf file using RSD Lite (preffered, recommended version 4.6+), or flash using the flash_image the *.img file to recovery partition.
3) Unpack the "OpenRecovery" folder and "OpenRecovery.zip" to the root folder of the sdcard.
Usage (XT701):
1) Reboot into recovery (hold camera button)
2) If no error occurs, you're now in Open Recovery. If error occurs you're in Open Recovery Lite.
Download & Installation (XT720):
1) Ensure you have rooted the phone. (Essential for this version)
2) Download the archive Open Recovery Version 1.46 for XT720
3) Unpack the "OpenRecovery" folder and "OpenRecovery.zip" to the root folder of the sdcard.
4) Open adb shell or Terminal and (ensure that the phone isn't in Memory Card mode in USB connection):
su cp /sdcard/OpenRecovery/orbootstrap/install_script.sh /tmp chmod 755 /tmp/install_script.sh /tmp/install_script.sh STR
1) Reboot into recovery (hold volume up button); alternatively you can reboot by typing "reboot openrecovery" to shell
2) If no error occurs, you're now in Open Recovery. If error occurs you're in Open Recovery Lite.
Console (MILESTONE ONLY):
- MENU key is CTRL, pressing MENU + ALT + C forcibly quits the console
- scrolling (pressing volume keys by a row (or eight rows if ALT is pressed))
- don't forget to select correct keyboard layout (under settings menu)
- search key is tab
- Alt+A prints "|" instead of Euro, Alt+F prints "$" instead of Pound
- limited support for escape characters but allowing to use "clear" and "ls" coloured
Changing a theme:
- "Theme" submenu under settings menu. New theme folders must be prefixed with "res."
OR update.zip format:
- the update.zip is extracted to "/sdcard/OpenRecovery/tmp/update"
- shell script, located in the archive in "META-INF/update-or.sh" is called; under env. variable PACKAGE is the root folder of the extraction: "/sdcard/OpenRecovery/tmp/update"
- the script can do the very same as script called from the menu (can call imenu)
- progress bar is not supported in this format
ui.prop file:
This file sets the colors for the theme. It's located right under the "res" folder.
color3.LED=#100 <- led diode color (3-bit RGB, use only 0 or 1)
color32.background=#000000A0 <- recovery background color
color32.menu=#FF3705FF <- recovery menu color
color32.selection=#FFFFFFFF <- recovery selected item color
color32.script=#FFFF00FF <- recovery script color
#Console color properties
color24.console.header=#FFFF00 <- console header color
color24.console.background=#000000 <- console background color
color24.console.front=#E5E5E5 <- console foreground color
(The example values are used by default when the property is not found.)
Lite vs. Full version (XT701 ONLY):
- The recovery image contains Lite version, with minimal options (moreless only difference from stock recovery is the GUI and applying update.zip doesn't need any signatures.)
- When booting into recovery, the Lite version is started. It will automatically switch to full version by applying the OpenRecovery.zip).
Version 1.46
- support for XT720 (bootstrap version)
- possible custom OTA updates (/cache/openrecovery/command)
- lite versions doesn't have adbd service
- Open Recovery console always have bash with colors
- cyanogenmod bash and busybox used
- modules are under kernel version directory
- nandroid updated to work with bootstrap version
- cleanup
- better 2nd-init calling
- fixed a bug where some settings was not persistent between reboots
- fixed a bug where while applying update.zip the partitions were mounted by default which caused corruption if erase was called
- fixed a bug when /system/bin/sh was called if used Open Recovery update.zip format
- fixed a bug when after applying an update.zip the next reboot was always to recovery
Version 1.45
- added USB Mass Storage Mode
Version 1.44
- possibility to specify mod author and mod version
- possibility to automatically boot into OpenRecovery on Milestone (see INSTALL) when rebooting into the recovery
- deleting a nandroid backup has now confirmation dialog
- terminal colors customizable for OR console
- themes can be changed from menu (the name is in file /res.*/name)
- uses 2nd-init (relatively ugly and volatile code here, in mod versions don't play with this section much)
- allows spaces in nandroid folder names, scripts and updates
- nandroid will automatically determine the format regardless of the directory
- envirmental variables changed
- removed command handling in "full" version
- removed scriptrunner script to run the menu scripts; handled in the binary now
- terminfo
- different handling of keyboard mapping script
- menu title can now have different color (see ui.prop for stock theme)
- several more escape characters for OR console implemented
- fixed keyboard layout change
- fixed imenu not having some items selectable
- nandroid not erasing userdata partition on restore fixed
- nandroid not flasing binary partitions on restore fixed
- nandroid now backs up/restores devtree partition (FroYo 2.2.1 fix)
- running a script is now like calling system function in C; fixes quotes issues inside arguments
- terminal variables are now exported only into OpenRecovery terminal
- console escape sequence parsing debugging fixed
- minor fixes
Version 1.37
- fixed nandroid restore not properly restoring yaffs2 partitions in old format
- fixed nandroid restore not restoring compressed backups
- fixed nandroid backup not taking md5 checksums
- console buffers up to 1000 lats printed lines (extended from 200)
Version 1.36
- fixed nandroid when doing "Backup All" and not having apps2sd; which would fail complaining that /sddata could not be mounted
(Ticking all partitions in the menu and selecting "Backup Selected" was working properly and the backup has been done correctly.)
- fixed console cursor blinking
- squirtle theme fixed
Version 1.35
- update.zip can be in new OR format using a shell script (described lower, there are samples of each one)
- console has now signalling implemented (menu key = CTRL)
- console has arrow keys implemented
- console has support for displaying front colors; thus it is no longer needed to disable bash colors
- console supports calling clear
- recovery binary will exit if not run by init (to prevent running it from adb or console)
- scripts in scripts folder are dos2unixed (on -FuFu- advice)
- switch files (.nobashcolors, .kdb_qwertz, etc.) are now located in /etc
- manual settings of the timezone (/etc/timezone), applied if the env. variable TZ doesn't exist
- update.zip no longer need to have the "update-binary", a default one is used if not found
- fixed unyaffs not restoring sticky bit / suid / sgid
- fixed displaying long menus (it will not be truncated, instead a scrollbar appears)
- fixed error in switch.sh for XT701
- fixed color24.console.front in the themes -> default is supposed to be #E5E5E5
Version 1.32
- pressing MENU + ALT + C forcibly quits the console
- ui.prop contains more options
- when applying any update.zip package, there is a confirmation menu
- cursor in console blinks
- Error message when ext2 partition on sdcard doesn't exist fixed
- fixed the bug with imenu when ran more than once in one script
Version 1.30a
- Console layout for QWERTZ / AZERTY fixed
Version 1.30
- on-phone console
- keyboard layout changer included
- new nandroid, with support of backing up and restoring ext2 partition on sdcard (Note: uses new format of the backup, new backups are located in /sdcard/nandroid/openrecovery, there is a backwards compatibility to restore the old backups)
- ability to create compressed backups (and autoreboot when done)
- better nandroid menu
- menus wrap around
- theming for the recovery (3 themes included, to apply just rename the "res.*" folder to "res"); color settings can be manipulated in the ui.prop file under the res folder)
- new commands for menu (tag, label, break)
- scripts (command "shell") are able to show menu interactively when requesting user feedback (sample included)
- the OpenRecovery folder is same for all supported phones
- only 10 MB stock update file is used
- Logo, Cdrom and Linux bootloader can be backed up / restored with nandroid
- keyboard is lit
- mountable partitions are mounted by default
- nandroid fixed
- fixed likely crash, when scripts prints '%', like '%s'
- menus don't blink when navigating from one to another
- LED diode blinking enhanced
Version 1.14
- switch.sh is separated (menu creation is in init_recovery.sh and called later by the recovery)
- Volume keys and Camera key can be used to navigate in Open Recovery
Version 1.12d
- wipe commands working properly
- Bash Settings menu, to enable/disable coloured output (preset to disabled), this is persistent settings, it will last through reboots
- ability to wipe dalvik-cache only (via script)
Version 1.12c
- reboot command is working properly
- the content of the sdcard is no longer changed when running, everything is being copied into the ramdisk
- minor fixes
- removed the 'init' command, instead uses 'scripted_menu'
- adbd uses bash (interactively) instead of sh
- payload installs also bash and toolbox
- different the menu system (deprecated 'init' command), each menu must be generated from a script (notes later)
- added init folder, scripts (with extension *.sh) are ran there on startup of the open recovery.
- the diode is blinking in blue instead of red.
- the recovery prints the output of the scripts / programs (prints their stdout)
- application menu (described later)
- new su and SuperUser.apk by ChainsDD
- if sdcard has ext2 partition, it is noted in fstab under "/sddata" (the module is inserted automatically)
Version 1.05
- fixed a bug in payload making it dependant on the system
- there is now nothing in the /system folder when unmounted
- toolbox linked statically
- busybox now installs symlinks, instead of copying itself
- fixed a bug in adb about the shell being in /sbin/sh instead of /system/bin/sh
- cleaned up, removed unnecessary libraries and binaries
- switch.sh now initializes the Open Recovery completely, no other script is used for initialization
- permissions set correctly
- added option to wipe
- menu's now have header (the menu file structure has been changed)
- added the possibility to run scripts, with .*sh extension located in scripts folder under OpenRecovery folder (shell is /sbin/sh or /sbin/bash)
Version 1.02
- fixed root installation
Version 1.01
- initial release
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Principle of switching:
The recovery contains an update.zip with payload, which doesn't do anything else than restarts to the open recovery. All the files for OpenRecovery are under the OpenRecovery folder under the root of the sdcard. The payload installs busybox to /sbin runs the "switch.sh" under the bin folder in open recovery.
Menu system:
The menu for the Open Recovery is created dynamically. The files must be created inside "/menu" folder by scripts, which can either be specified (if the menu is scripted_menu) or created by a *.sh script in /sdcard/OpenRecovery/init where the scripts are executed at startup. A menu creating script has to create a *.menu file inside the /menu folder. If the menu is supposed to be created on startup and not modified, place the script into /init folder, otherwise use "scripted_menu" item, where the script is ran right before the menu is created. sdcard, system and data partitions are mounted when the scripts are ran. A typical example for "scripted_menu" item is under the tutorial for application menu. For application menu see lower section. The structure of the menu file is different from the CustomUpdate by mankind:
First line is the menu name (normal string), then use the following structure:
"item name:type:argument"
- item name is what is seen in the menu
- type: type of the command (described later)
- argument: argument passed to the command (file, or anything else; if empty, put "*" there, otherwise the item will be discarded)
- reboot: reboots the phone
- shell: calls a file specified in arguments (default path is to /bin, if not specified)
- menu: opens another menu file (specified in argument), if the argument is "..", it returns to up one level meu
- scripted_menu: argument is in format "menu file:menu script", the menu script is called with variable MENU_FILE containing the menu name (default path for the script is to /bin, if not specified)
- tag: if ticked, file "tags/.argument" is created
- break: unselectable item, argument is ignored (use "*") and creates a menu item like "---- name ----"; using "*" as name will create just "--------------"
- label: unselectable item, argument is ignored (use "*") and creates normal menu item "name "
- update: applies an update *.zip file, specified in argument (format SDCARD:$path_to_the_file_in_sdcard)
- wipe_data: factory reset
- wipe_cahce: wipe cache
The menu is refreshed (the script is called if the menu is scripted) on a menu change, applying an update or running a script. Whenever a script is ran, system, data and sdcard is mounted
Application menu:
Application menu is designed for anything that is run on the startup and can malfunction under any circumstances. Here is one example - suppose you have a mount on font in the startup. You'll have something like this in your startup script:
mount -o bind /system/myfonts/segoeui.ttf /system/fonts/DroidSans.ttf mount -o bind /system/myfonts/segoeuib.ttf /system/fonts/DroidSans-Bold.ttf
if [ ! -f /system/switch/.nocustomfont ]; then mount -o bind /system/myfonts/segoeui.ttf /system/fonts/DroidSans.ttf mount -o bind /system/myfonts/segoeuib.ttf /system/fonts/DroidSans-Bold.ttf fi
#!/sbin/sh #create the menu item echo "Custom Font:scripted_menu:custfont.menu:/app/custfont/menu.sh" >> "APP_MENU_FILE"
Since the scripts are in /app and not /bin, use absolute path. This will add an item to the applications menu, now we need a menu when it is selected, which is the "/app/custfont/menu.sh":
#!/sbin/sh if [ -f /system/switch/.nocustomfont ]; then # menu name - custom font is disabled echo "Custom Font (Disabled)" > "MENU_FILE" # go to upper level menu echo "Go Back:menu:.." >> "MENU_FILE" # enable it echo "Enable:shell:/app/custfont/enable.sh" >> "MENU_FILE" else # menu name - custom font is enabled echo "Custom Font (Enabled)" > "MENU_FILE" # go to upper level menu echo "Go Back:menu:.." >> "MENU_FILE" # disable it echo "Disable:shell:/app/custfont/disable.sh" >> "MENU_FILE" fi
Notice the shells are in /sbin, so use /sbin/sh (or /sbin/bash). The script checks if the switch is on or off and generates the menu accordingly. Since the menu is refreshed each time the script is run, it will always submit the correct option. The "enable.sh" simply touches the file and "disable.sh" just deletes it.
Mod version:
- "ro.or.mod.author" and "ro.or.mod.version" properties in default.prop are read and parsed to specify mod author and mod version
- Location of default.prop file is in 2ndinit.#phonetype#
openrecovery in Motorola Droid-family Platform Research - Gitorious
(The module name is "open_recovery_SHOLS", it can coexist next to the stock one.)
Don't forget that it uses bash to call all the scipts. (or edit the recovery.c "#define PHONE_SHELL" to go for sh)
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Thanks a lot it's very useful and works fine...
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Good tools.. however, when i launch super whitelist, it prompt me su file not found in system/bin
I tried going inside the folder but I cant find this su file as well. Used a su file from the web and copy into the folder but all my rooted apps not working now...
Ah, I put it into /system/xbin, didn't notice this issue with the whitelist, will fix that soon. You should be able to type 'su' from the adb and then fix it.
Alternatively, you can fix it in the "root.sh" script (in OpenRecovery subfolder).
Updated to 1.02 and fixed the issue.
Updated to 1.05, fixed number of bugs and added some new features.
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Thanks again for the quick update. I used your 1.02 and it working fine now. Do I need to run 1.05 over 1.02 to get the bug fix? (Means applying 'root phone' only)?
Thanks again. This is a great tool
No; 1.02 has that fine. 1.05 has another changes and bugfixes, some quite major (dependency on the system partition in the payload), so yeah, you might want to update it.
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So does it mean we're now able to load real custom roms like cyanogenmods'???
No, the signatures over recovery / kernel are still intact. This is just a trick how to restart the recovery into a custom one using the payload exploit.
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Ok I used ADBRecovery to do my nandroid backups.... But now with this OpenRecovery it's done differently. Like
Does this mean that with whatever update.zip.. does not go into the root of the sdcard anymore but goes in here located in "OpenRecovery/updates" folder that we create ....so it can find the update.zip... Does it also change the nandroid location also ?
- 05-10-2010, 06:08 AM #11Itty Bitty Modder
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nandroid location is /sdcard/nandroid/adbrecovery - yes, this is other path to nandroid backups (sample - G1 with AmonRa create directly in /sdcard/nandroid)
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Hallo.... I've some problem with my Milestone. I've flashed the recovery with exploit, I've copied the file of open recovery in root of my sd but.... when reboot in recovery mode I must to apply update.zipo to have open recovery... it's ok or its wrong? Can have OpenRecovery without apply the update.zip in old recovery mode? PLEASEEE HELP ME|!
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Beginning - Copy open recovery to sdcard root folder.
1. Use RSD Lite to flash "old recovery"
2. After appear "SW Complete" press camera button to enter recovery
3. hit "apply: update.zip"
welcome in OpenRecovery.
Make a nandroid first, and you have open way to apply any nandroid backup like TS ROM V2b...
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I reboot phone with camera.... volume up and camera button... RECOVERY MODE .... Update.zip and only NOW 'm in Open recovery... how to have immediately OpenRecovery???
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it's not possible yet AFAIK
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... pits already removed, thank you, because my life has plenty of pits as it is right now. :p
Black sweet cherries, frozen black sweet cherries to be precise!
... pits already removed, thank you, because my life has plenty of pits as it is right now. :p
So, I'm sitting here this morning (morning/afternoon whatever... I haven't been out of bed terribly long because I sat awake reading until abut 4 am last night, because I was tossing and turning from my brain refusing to stay quiet) having my second cup of good strong coffee, and painting my toenails a glorious color... a deep metallic teal green(watermelon green base coat in Sinful Colors "Envy", and turquoise blue gel w/metallic/holographic in Wet N Wild Fastdry "Happy Holidaze! on top) that is stunning... and I need to make a really important decision though probably one of the least easy ones I'll ever make.
My stress the last couple of weeks has been from my son.
As many of you know I went to TN and brought him home to help him at Christmas... and all was going well, he got a job, was working, ect. And then he *poof*... disappeared. Didn't come home from work the Friday before last, never came to get any of his clothes or things, didn't call or message me in any way... just gone.
Well... since it was a Friday when he didn't come home I assumed he went to a friend's house, or a girl's. Of course.
But then it kept going.
Finally after about a week a girl left a message on his Facebook page saying something about how she was glad that they were in a relationship now... so then I could finally stop having the "he's dead somewhere" thoughts.
(Mom died in a car accident when I was 7... I panic internally every time someone is gone somewhere in a car and is way late/not heard from. Completely insane but true. Every freaking time!)
But we still had no clue where he was.
And just yesterday I got a short message from him myself.
The girl he was with told him she was pregnant (I did some quick menstrual math and said "wait a damn minute" because he'd know her all of about two weeks when he disappeared) and he had gotten fired from his job... the girl encourages him to party. Husband went and talked to one of his co-workers... this girl's mother is in prison, her sister is a multiple felon though not currently in jail, and she herself has been arrested (all check fraud and identity theft and such)... plus she has been linked to drug dealers(scrip pill sales), though I'm pretty sure my son doesn't know any of this... So son was hanging out the irresponsibles, got irresponsible himself and missed work... got fired and ASSUMED that I'd automatically kick him out of the house(which I would not have)... so he took off to live with the source of the problem.
Husband went to see him.
Girl is not pregnant. Shocker. :rolleyes: But small favors.
My issue is this.
Do I try to bring him back again.
Knowing that in my heart I have no faith at all that he won't do the same thing.
I can lead a horse to water but I can't make it drink.
I tell him if he wants better from his life he has to expect better from himself, but he doesn't.
He left my comfortable home to go live, with none of his clothes or possessions, in a place with no power...
My husband talked to him yesterday and said that he looked like he hadn't showered in a week.
I don't even understand.
I want to help, but I don't think I can.
But I also know that if he stays there, with those people, the hole he digs himself may be too deep to crawl out of.
And all of this is about me too.
It's about my trust in people. Or my lack there of.
Because the truth is I don't.
I don't trust people to not hurt me.
I haven't had someone I could trust like that since I was a small child.
Except for my husband, and I probably have a space of "expectation" inside me that I reserve for him as well though it grows smaller year by year.
I don't really make friends... I simply have acquaintances.
It's a truth I accept about myself.
I want to trust my child, but I'm smarter than trusting him.
I know he's going to drag me through shit...
But how far out do I put myself?
How many times do I say "Here I am, hurt me" ?
Because emotional pain is the worst thing there is in my world.
The other issue is that if he stays where he is I won't associate with him at all.
I won't help him in any way while he is there because I see that as supporting bad choices.
I will basically shun him. And that is all kinds of painful too.
Hi Cori. Sorry about the son issues. :(
I'm not a parent, but one of the things I resent my parents for is that they barely ever gave me a good sit-down talk about the repercussions of hanging out with certain types of people, let alone hitching my wagon to one. I doubt I would have listened at that point because with young comes a certain amount of stupid. But at least when I made certain bad decisions, I would have been able to realize that my parents had tried. The rule of association is like that of gravity: it's easier to get dragged down than it is to get dragged up.
The only two pieces of good advice I ever got:
-Get your ass to college because you're a girl and the high paying blue collar options aren't open to you. (At the time that was true enough.)
-Boys will say anything to get laid. (Still true.)
I wish they'd tried a little bit harder, even though I fully admit that I was an extremely difficult teenager.
I think maybe if you don't try to reason with him, you might have "maybe I should have" regrets later. If you try and he ignores you, you will have done everything you could, and in the end, that's all any of us can do.
OTOH, like I said, I've never been a parent, so the above opinion is only based on what I wish my parents would have done for me.
Wow, Cori, the fun never stops for you, does it? Sending positive thoughts and prayers and whatever good mojo brainwaves I can rustle up your way. Sorry, a few raunchy brainwaves might be mixed in as well.
As you know, I don't have any kids, but you cannot effect change in another person. You can reason, you can lay out options and life choices, you can be reasonable, but son may see the world through an utterly foreign prism. Your reason is his straightjacket, your options woefully incomplete, your reason so very unreasonable to him.
Still, you have to do what you can to protect him, and to protect yourself. Taking him back in may expose you to the shit, the emotional roller coaster, but it's better than the alternative. Just protect him enough, and yourself enough, and hope that time will bring him around. Don't have any expectations for the best, crappy as that may sound. Hope and optimism are the enemy of pragmatism, and it's all about pragmatism. Best of worlds, we're all working towards the happy togetherness, but the world we're in, we're working to keep everyone alive and relatively undamaged.
The longer he is removed from the bad influences, the better the odds that he'll get it together. Taking him in is a step towards that, one that you [I]can [/I]effect. He's going to have to make the effort to move in the right direction too and in that there are no guarantees. For now, you two are from two different worlds and the bottom line is to minimize damage. Very bunker mentality. I understand what you are saying about being able to trust people, but in my experience good attracts good and shit attracts shit. When I was young and stupid, guess what I ran into? Young and stupid. Somehow I've aggregated a pretty damned group of friends. He needs to be surrounded by better influences, and more time with you and hubby is a good step.
And you do have friends, Cori, more than you know. People here care about you, and for good reason. I have friends I see regularly, we hang out and drink wine and laugh into the night. I have friends I see maybe once every 5 or 10 years, and we just pick up like nothing ever stopped, and then it's another 5 or 10 years. I have friends I've never met in person, but they are some of the finest turds I know, and have continued to know.
You're not alone. Scream if you need to, we'll listen. We'll offer up our lameassed but well-intentioned advice. We'll do some group-huggy thing across the Interwebs. We all have this shit, to some degree, and hopefully some day we'll figure it all out.
Wow. Sending love, love, love.
Your son is in his early 20s, I think, yes? Since mine is five, I cannot offer any wise mum advice from experience. And, actually, I think you already know the answers, you're just trying to find a sweet-spot balance between support and enabling.
I was a fairly push-me-pull-you child (come to think of it, I do this as an adult too, to an extent) - always offering challenging behaviour to provoke a response that either proves the person does really love me or fulfills my fear that they do not. During the times when this behaviour was directed at my parents, my mother stuck to the line: we don't like or support your behaviour, but we will always love you. They were also very clear on the 'your home, our house' line and there were rules I couldn't break.
I don't think shunning is the answer; but I think it is okay (indeed, advisable) to set some boundaries and expectations on where/how he should be in contact with you and that there are consequences if he doesn't. Also, I'd start the discussion by telling him that you understand he was trying to do the right thing by this woman and their (albeit fictive) child and that this aspect of the situation makes you proud of him. Of course he went about this the wrong way, but the motivation was admirable.
Consider yourself roundly and tightly hugged.
Gheesh Cori, that sucks. Sadly I can't offer anything but a hug. *HUG* (and as many more imaginary internet hugs that ya need) :)
Mostly ditto to everything everyone has said. Don't you dare forget how we all threatened to send you cards & shit when your head was going to get sliced open! I still want to send you a card or something!
My first thought when reading about your son & your feelings about being there for him might seem kind of harsh but... I kind of feel like, if you can't be there for him, don't. And don't pretend to be. I feel like it would be more difficult to "play along" for him, if that makes sense, than to just make it clear that he has a place to go, but you can't help him? But he does need some good role models to be around, and you definitely have that capacity if you are willing to undertake it.
Oh Cori this is a tough one. Will he come back if you let him? I know that leaving my son in that kind of situation would kill me.
you have to talk to him, and you can't put him in the 'do not trust' box with everyone else
if he didn't think he could come home and was willing to be in a place where he couldn't even shower then he needs a hug and a sit down with everything explained to him in detail
I only have advice in terms of what I wished someone had done for my sister: offer him a chance to come back, with the understanding that you will help him with the positive and you are here for him. Don't bail on him.
*Hugs* and all sorts of love, and as much positive energy as you need.


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Justin Williams Out With Broken Hand
by Paul on 02/16/09 at 08:16 PM ET
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via Paul Branecky of CarolinaHurricanes.com,
It appears that Justin Williams' recent bad luck with injuries has struck again.
The Hurricanes winger, who missed the team's first 25 games with a ruptured Achilles tendon, is expected to miss at least a month after a slap shot broke a bone in his hand last night in Buffalo. A decision will be made on whether to perform surgery in the coming days.
"He walked on that bus last night and he looked about as low as a man can," said Coach Paul Maurice of Williams. "The especially painful part is that over the last three or four games, his speed was coming back. He was skating last night and he was really moving, and I think he really felt that finally something positive [was happening]. To have that happen is going to be very difficult for him."
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