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This man talked to me as if I was an idiot; he said my botched Achilles surgery and infection was the only black mark on his record. ?? He placed a statement saying I needed to see a vascular surgeon in my medical records-yet he forgot to tell me (this cost me my Life Insurance.) His arrogance in treating me, leaving my Achilles permanently at 30% and saying I could return to "normal" work activities (I'm a career salesperson) has now cost me a disability claim. I haven't found full time work since he treated me in 2012. He will see you and take your money, but he is rude, his nurse is obnoxious and uncaring, and I recommend you find a surgeon that can assist you if you need specialized Achilles tendon surgery.
Have to agree with a number of other negative reviews I see. He was having a bad day, was behind with his patients, as he admitted, and the impression was he would never catch up on that day or any other. Arrogant and opinionated. Can't say his diagnosis was wrong because he gave none and did not seem interested in coming to one. Maybe he's a good technical surgeon but I would not risk it for myself or anyone who asked me. Saw somewhere he is rated a Top Doctor by some rating service; that only makes me wonder about the rating system.
I actually saw another doctor within Peachtree Orthopedic Clinic before seeing Dr. Beskin -- having had two experts work on my injury gave me a HUGE appreciation for Dr. Beskin's expertise and confidence. His exams were in depth, hands-on, and thorough. Leanne, his surgical coordinator, was a gift to work with -- accessible as needed, intelligent, and willing to offer support as needed. Very thankful to have worked with this team!
He is very good and am referring my husband.
I saw Dr. Beskin for a workers comp injury to my right ankle. I saw a different dr. for three months with no improvement and workers comp changed me to Dr. Beskin. My ankle was still swollen and I still couldn't put any weight on it. He took an xray and noticed the chipped bone but diagnosed the injury as an ankle sprain and sent me to physical therapy. He and his staff are extremely rude. During the 3 months of seeing Dr. Beskin with no improvement I asked if he could do exploratory surgery to determine what was causing the pain and swelling and he refused. I insisted on going to a different doctor and workers comp did. On my first visit with the new doctor, he looked at the tests and reports from the other doctors and said I needed surgery. He had to remove the bone chip, repair a torn ligament and remove torn cartilage. This surgery helped where I could at least put weight on my ankle but was still in pain, however I began having extreme pain a little over a year after the dr. released me. I went back to the dr. and he said in his report the MRI clearly showed scar tissue entrapment and possibly a tendon tear. Workers Comp sent me back to Dr. Beskin and he said my symptoms were from nerve damage, the same nerve that was damaged when he was treating me for the injury. Dr. Beskin never mentioned nerve damage when he was treating me and never referred me to nerve specialist. He said the surgery would not help me. Workers Comp then sent me for an independent medical exam. They sent me to Dr. Beskin who again said surgery would not help. He said there was nothing that could be done. During that visit I asked Dr. Beskin how my bone was chipped when there wasn't anything solid or hard underneath it ( I was on an inflatable obstacle course) and he said when the ligament tore that it caught a piece of the bone. So he knew when he was treating me that I had a damaged ligament and did nothing to repair it. As you can see from how many times I was sent to Dr. Beskin and he would not provide the treatment I needed that he is a "go to" doctor for workers comp. This means he is going to side with the workers comp insurance company and you might not receive the treatment you should. Now the other dr. does not want to do the surgery because Dr. Beskin doesn't think it will help. I went to another dr. on my own and that dr. confirmed I definitely need the surgery but now I have one dr. that says I need it and two doctors that say I don't. Nightmare that could've been avoided if Dr. Beskin had provided me with the necessary treatment I needed instead of siding with the insurance company so they will continue to send you more workers comp patients. YOU DON'T WANT TO USE DR. BESKIN FOR A WORKER's COMP INJURY.
Dr. Beskin's bedside manner is lacking. He was not thorough in my examination. Did not test my range of motion or ask me questions about my ability to bear weight on my ankle or other questions that would lead him to an appropriate decision on care. He shut me down like a teenager asking for the keys to the car when I indicated I would like to start pt as my ankle is very weak, unstable and effecting my knee and back. He basically left it up to me to try and figure out what I can and cannot do. Having had other sports injuries I went straight to a good therapist who was able to give me some strengthening exercises and get me on the right track without further injury. Dr. Beskins response to this was "I have nothing left to offer you." I guess if I was not a surgical candidate he just did not care. No thanks.
I only have the highest praise for Dr Beskin and his assistant Leanne. He was the third orthopedic surgeon I had seen who spent more time with me explaining my options. While one Dr wanted to operate the next day, he strongly suggested against it. My foot was to swollen for surgery. The other doctor wanted to operate in two phases, one now and the other a year from now. Dr Beskin said he could do both procedures at the same time. I had a shattered heal and 18 months after surgery I am walking fine. Actually I was walking fine 12 months after surgery. He has been rated by his peers as the best orthopedic surgeon in Atlanta 4 years in a row. I think the choice is obvious.
I have an appiontment with this doctor and from reading these reviews I'm very skeptical about seeing him now. I'm not so sure I want to go through with the appointment.
I went to peachtree orthopedic for a serious broken foot injury. I found the staff at the clinic Very rude . The nurse was extremely rude to me . Dr beskin always made left a unpleasant feeling with me. And never really gave me a solution to the matter. Just pushed me off to physical therpy which was just as rude I went maybe three times . I wasn't happy with his service and would recommend to look elsewhere In fact the dr never did anything for me I healed by nature in time.
I had seen one of his colleagues for a prior foot issue. Due to illness, I ended up being forced into scheduling an appointment with him. His nurse. Leeann, is rude and completely unprofessional. After describing my issue, he looks at the MRI report (not the scans themselves) he says there is nothing wrong but offers me a cortisone injection. After asking more questions regarding my pain and why I should go forward with the injection, he underlines an area of the MRI report and points to it. Terrible. Top doctor? According to whom?
I went to the doctor complaining of having a bad toe nail due to clawing of my 2nd toe. 1st visit he said for me to keep the nail trimmed. I did that but the nail continue to be bothersome. 2nd visit I let him consult with my doctor who informed him that I was clinching my toes due to depression. He said he had never heard of such. The doctor decided to do what I thought was to remove the toenail. I was schedule to got to the the surgical center. I was curious as to why he wanted me to go there because I thought he could remove the nail in the office but I went to the center anyway. Following the procedure I was given instructions and sent home. When I returned for a follow up I was sitting in the lobby with another one of his patients who told me that she had her toes fused. I said wow, and asked why she did that. She said she wanted pretty toes. She also said that she had a pin in her toes. I then said ouch! that would hurt me because I clinch my toes. I explained to her what that meant. She was called back and I didn't see her again. When I went in to see the doctor he began by asking me some questions. He then said that he was going to remove the pin. I said "pin"? "What pin"? It was at that moment I realized why my toe hurt so much when I bumped it a few times. Yep he fused my toe and not only that toe but 2 others. I couldn't believe he had fused the bones in my toes. When I returned for the 3rd follow up I remember him saying you still have swelling. Of course I still have swelling "I was still trying to clinch my toes" you D---y. That is what I was thinking. I got my record and looked at it. The signature looks like mine (aaah) but did I sign it? I don't remember every discussing with him about any procedure to fuse the bones in my toes. I wasn't looking to beautify my toes I wanted comfort. Just imagine having the bones fused in your toes and trying to clench/bend them constantly. Yep, you've guessed it my toes look deformed because I am trying to clench/bend them. I could not clench the 2nd toe anymore so I clench the big toe and it looks awfully deformed now.
Tremendously poor scheduling department. Selective in who he treats.Terrible bedside manner.
Dr. Beskin was unprofessional and discourteous. I came to Dr. Beskin for achilles pain and swelling along with associated hip pain on the same leg. After waiting for 2 hours, he met with me for less than 5 minutes. During this time, he revealed that he was unaware that I had been x-rayed upon arrival, glanced at my ankle and told me he couldn't guess what the problem was with my hip, assumed I had tendonitis-like issues, and told me he couldn't help me. I told him that I felt he didn't spend fair time reviewing my case and that I had a few questions. He responded by telling me that he was very frustrated with personal issues and was overbooked today, and told me that I he was "only helping the people that he can" and that I was not one of them.
Outrageous behavior. Evidently he was having a bad day..... and I feel sorry for him.... but as a doctor it would be better if he just cancelled the appointment rather than act as he did.
Should of had my first 2 surgeries with Dr. Beskin might of avoided the 3rd due to the 1st surgeons screw up. Awesome knowledge, bed side manner and attention to details.
Outcome of my spur removal was better than expected. He even removed my stiches himself. Least painful joint injections I've ever had. HIGHLY recommend him.
He was excellent
I had what should have been a simple Bunionectomy, which turned into a desaster. I told Dr. Beskin that I was in continued pain and my big toe was going in the opposite direction. He made light of this problem and said it was only matter of cosmetics. He told me my toe was only a little over corrected, which could be resolved with me bandaging my foot every night and wearing tight shoes to make my toe move toward the right. As it turns out after three second opinions. I have to have several corrective surgeries to correct the problem. The last Doctor I consulted with, said my problem was so server he recommended that I go to Duke University and have an Orthopedic Specialist perform my surgery. All three of them said, they would not attempt to do the surgery themselves. Please be aware of the Doctor. It would have been different if he said, "yes, you have a problem that will require corrective surgery"; but he tried to throw it off to being something that is in my mind...


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Completion of Erie water plant work delayed until October
The water that gets sucked into an Erie Water Works treatment plant from Lake Erie still makes its way to your faucet.
But what the water utility's estimated 62,000 direct and third-party customers might not know is that its main treatment plant still isn't fully operational.
The Richard S. Wasielewski Water Treatment plant won't be fully functional until Oct. 31, about one year after what had been the expected completion date of a $42 million upgrade, said Paul Vojtek, Erie Water Works' chief executive.
See Thursday's Erie Times-News and GoErie.com for more coverage.

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Glenda Atkinson, left, presented a program on reverse painting at the meeting of Laureate Mu Chapter of Beta Sigma Phi held at her home on June 3. Nancy Tislow, president, right, shows off her own work after the presentation.
Glenda Atkinson presented a program on reverse painting at the meeting of Laureate Mu Chapter of Beta Sigma Phi held at her home on June 3.
Atkinson demonstrated the technique and had each member in attendance produce her own glass plate with a sunflower design. Each member was able to go home with her own work of art.
Shirley Griffin, yearbook chairman, distributed yearbooks for the 2014-2015 year. Program chairman, Elsie Rowell, announced the program and hostess schedule for the year.
Soap pads for Miss Helen's Soup Kitchen were collected by service chairman, Gloria Stutes.
The July meeting will be held at the home of Elsie Rowell, and members are asked to bring scrubbing pads for the soup kitchen.
The budget for the year was discussed and dues were collected.
Plans to see the play Nunsense II on June 12 were finalized.
The hostess served delicious refreshments to those present, including Griffin, Jean Hanks, Connie Jaubert, Brenella Joubert, Rowell, Stutes and Nancy Tislow.


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By Jake Donovan - Akifumi Shimoda registered his fourth consecutive win with a ninth round stoppage over Hugo Partida on Wednesday evening at Korakuen Hall in Tokyo, Japan.
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It hasn't been reported how much time it required for the Oklahoma Supreme Court to uphold the constitutionality of a public vote, but if it took more than a matter of minutes justices wasted their time.
The court voted 7-0 last week in favor of the November 2002 vote that outlawed cockfighting in the state. Cockfighting proponents contended the referendum, which passed by 125,000 votes, was unconstitutional because it was "vague" and deprived cockfighters of property without compensation. Enforcement of the vote was stopped in as many as 25 counties.
Thankfully, the highest court in the state unanimously supported the will of the people at the ballot box, a concept of democracy that seems to be lost on cockfighting supporters.
CORRECTION: Airport Boulevard, between Rick Husband Amarillo International Airport and Interstate 40, was the subject of an editorial Saturday calling for a serious makeover of the thoroughfare. The editorial misidentified the name of the street.
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Last time out, I took a look at the "dream" prospects that the Saints would like to land in the 2012 NFL Draft. This time, I will take aim at prospects that I think New Orleans will target in each round that will help build on the 2011 season's success.
The Saints will have holes to fill with quality free agents likely gone to a higher bidder.
Those names are Marques Colston, Tracy Porter and Robert Meachem. I think the Saints tie up the Brees and Nicks contracts and let the chips fall on the other FAs. Those three names are not going to take a hometown discount. They have priced their way right out of the Saints grasp.
The NFL is a business. Just like any business, you have new employees to evaluate and train. Without the luxury of a first-round pick, the Saints will lean heavily on their scouting department. That is a scouting department that finds gems with relative ease in the middle rounds and beyond (i.e. Jahri Evans, Rd. 4, and Pierre Thomas, UDFA).


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Semifinal-round play in the PSAC men's tennis championships was postponed because of rain Friday and rescheduled for today at Indiana's Maple Street Courts.
In today's 10 a.m. semifinal, No. 3 seed Mercyhurst (6-10, 3-2) will take on second-seeded Kutztown (9-6, 4-1), and at noon, top-seeded West Chester (9-9, 4-1) will meet No. 4 seed Edinboro (15-6, 3-2). Today's winners will advance to Sunday's 11 a.m. championship.
In women's semifinal play, California defeated Millersville 5-0, and the IUP-Kutztown match was halted after doubles competition with IUP leading 3-0. The two teams will resume play at 9 a.m. today.
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If nobody believed in superstition it would be unable to hurt anyone
Solar Miracle
The Flop of the Century
An Agnostic Looks at
The apparitions
of the Blessed Virgin Mary at Fatima in
To argue that 70,000 saw the miracle therefore we should lend it credence is odd considering that thousands more did not see it. And it is not true that 70,000 seen it. And what is the use of people seeing something when scientific instruments do not? Science is more reliable than people.
17 October 1917 O Seculo
"The people ask one another if they have seen anything. The greatest number avow that they have seen the trembling and dancing of the sun. Others however ... swear that the sun fell almost to the point of burning the earth with its rays".
This account by a witness talks about the miracle of the sun at Fatima wherein it is boasted that thousands of people saw the sun spin and change colour. It shows that the sun dancing and trembling is not supernatural. If you look at the strong sun it will be hard on the eyes and yourself and you will think it is moving and shaking. If you are shaking you will think it is the sun that is shaking. The quote shows that the witnesses did not all agree on what they saw. It also shows that they noticed people around them who seemed to have seen nothing. You do not ask others if they seen something unless it is clear that they may not have seen anything.
Thankfully a Catholic priest wrote in his book that many saw nothing. http://www.amazon.com/God-sun-Fatima-Stanley-Jaki/dp/B0006R7UJ6
The Blessed
Virgin Mary allegedly appeared in
Lucia revealed that the Lady promised to do a great miracle that day. This promise was published in the papers and this drew huge crowds on the day of the expected miracle. Sceptics have concluded that this prediction preconditioned the people to see something. They were not going to go to the effort of going to the Cova and taking a day off work for nothing.
The Bible God forbids us to listen to prophets - people who say they have messages from God - if there is any error in them. Lucia only revealed in 1941 that she was told by Mary in 1914 that there would be another world war - she did this after World War 2 had started. This is only how a fraud would behave. It is against the Bible to believe in the prophecy about the miracle of the sun and therefore in the miracle of the sun itself.
Greatest Miracle?
The greatest
alleged miracle of the twentieth century has to be this miracle of the sun
Some books would have you think that it had no less than 70,000 witnesses (eg. Fatima Revealed and Discarded, page 168). But if you look at the photographs you see that this was an exaggeration.
The papers gave a range of between 30,000 and 100,000 people. That they couldn't get their figures half right is a warning bell. If you look at the press photographs you will remember that photographers would have snapped the largest part of the crowd. Bearing that in mind we see that the crowd was not as big as the Church and the papers and the priests tried to make out. Also, there were a lot of children there. Why are there no accounts of children going berserk during the scary part of the alleged miracle?
The Lisbon paper, O Seculo", painted a very impressive account of the alleged miracle. It was obviously promoting a mystery. It was the paper that said there was 30,000. Given its adoring attitude towards the alleged miracle it would not have said that unless it were sure. The paper gave the following account,
"From the height of the road where the people parked their carriages and where many hundreds stood, afraid to brave the muddy soil, we saw the immense multitude turn towards the sun at its highest, free of all clouds. The sun called to mind a plate of dull silver. It could be stared at without the least effort. It did not burn or blind. It seemed that an eclipse was taking place. All of a sudden a tremendous shout burst forth, 'Miracle, miracle! Marvel, marvel! "before the astonished eyes of the people, whose attitude carried us back to biblical times, and who, white with terror, heads uncovered gazed at the blue sky, the sun trembled and made some brusque unheard-of movements beyond all cosmic laws; the sun danced, in the typical expression of the peasants."
This dross goes beyond what most of the witnesses said.
If you study the photos, a lot of witnesses were shielding their eyes during the miracle and squinting. No wonder they were able to look at the sun!
The fussing done about the miracle is a mystery considering that the occultist Vintras prophesied that visions would take place at Tilly-Sur-Seulles in Calvados France and when the prophecy was fulfilled in 1896 many people had aerial visions of Mary and there were miracles in which bizarre contortions of the bodies of visionaries took place. Contortions like that are generally regarded as from Satan no matter how orthodox the doctrine they seem to defend is for they are so pointless and showy. The miracle of the sun was frequently reported at Bayside New York which was not only the focus of apparitions without credibility for years but which were condemned by the Church and which made mincemeat of the authority of the pope. When people imagine the miracle happening when there is no miracle or when the miracle is heretical and therefore from Satan there is no point in taking any implication of such miracles seriously. In other words, you don't consider becoming a Catholic if you see the sun spinning and turning different colours. It wouldn't do any harm to consider seeing a therapist or a psychiatrist or your optician.
So that all will believe
Lucia wanted
the lady to do a big miracle so that everybody would believe. In July, the Lady told that her she
would perform the miracle she wanted in October "so that everyone will
believe your story" (page 33, What
Happened at
The Lady later appeared to the three children in Valinhos and discussed the miracle she would do in October. She told them that because of the scepticism of the unbelievers the miracle would be less dramatic and great. So she had changed her mind about doing an extremely striking super-miracle and set her Immaculate Heart on a less spectacular one. The less wonderful the miracle is the more reason people have to disbelieve it and yet she said she wanted the miracle done to make people believe. An all-knowing God does not change his mind or spout such stupidity for he knows all things and you only change your mind when you realise you have made a mistake. The Virgin at least partly broke her promise.
The Lady said that everybody would believe the story of the children upon seeing the miracle. But everyone did not believe when it happened. Many in the crowd saw nothing! Many of those that did did not see anything that couldn't be explained by excitement and imagination.
Many decided to wait until the Church decided what level of
veracity and accuracy could be attributed to the
The vision was subjective
The miracle is proven to be a subjective experience by the fact that no observatory noticed any change in the sun that day or a change in its position. Christians often say that Satan doesn't have miraculous powers but uses tricks that look like miracles. Whatever the so-called miracle did, it did not then demonstrate the miraculous power of God. There are no scientific accounts of the miracle. Is it wiser to believe the machines than the people? You must decide. If three doctors say a person has cancer and a machine which has no faults says they are wrong which do you believe?
The atmosphere was
right for many to say that the solar miracle had happened because even before
it people were reporting strange things.
Some thought the sky had gone dark in September though Canon
who was the first to support Fatima saw nothing untoward at all (page 51,
What Happened at
Many of the people had umbrellas up.
Lucia had told them to put down their brollies before the apparition though it
was raining (page 78, The Evidence for Visions
of the
Virgin Mary) which shows that she was planning a solar illusion
and had touching concern for the old people who could have caught pneumonia.
The brollies might have blocked their vision of the sky so they had to go
down. It is obvious that not many would have
listened to her or even heard her but many would have noticed people taking
brollies down and then they would have followed suit. Mc Clure
thinks the crowd did not expect to see the sun spinning but they all knew a
miracle was promised and I don't doubt that being asked to put the umbrellas
down was an indication that it was time for the miracle. Since the crowd was so large and it was
hard to see the apparition site they would have realised that any sign would
have to take place in the sky and that most obvious orb in the sky, the sun.
The ban on using umbrellas alone would have suggested that.
And people were seeing strange things in the sun months before the miracle of
the sun (page 76,
Lucia shouts to look at the sun
In October, a crowd of 70,000 had gathered. At the end of the visions, the Lady who had identified herself as the Lady of the Rosary, let the children see Jesus and Joseph and herself in the sun. Lucia shouted for the crowd to look at the sun.
Some say that there is no way of proving that Lucia shouted that the crowd must look at the sun before anything happened. Only a few at the front would have heard her and they might not have seen what maybe Lucia and some of the rest were seeing in the sky for their own imagination and memory would colour their perception of what they thought they were seeing. And you know the way it is with eyewitness reports at occasions like that. Some would misremember her saying to look at the sky before anything happened. But in all probability she did tell them to look at the sun. She had the stage set when she told them to put their brollies down.
The accounts do not all agree
Many of them but not all (page 77, The Evidence for Visions of the Virgin Mary) saw the sun spinning or changing colour or both but the accounts do not agree (ibid 78, 80). Now, for the Lady to want the crowd to look at the sun which is very dangerous over visions that might have been hoaxes or paranormal freaks shows that she was not the Virgin Mary but something else – perhaps something equivalent to a fairy-tale playmate. Despite all the photographers who were present there are no photos of the changes in the sky or any physical evidence. The best the defender can do is produce photos of eclipses in far away lands! (page 78, The Evidence for Visions of the Virgin Mary). When a miracle is given for unbelievers one would expect the Virgin to have done a better job of seeing to it being authenticated. The picture below shows nothing strange. If it was taken at Fatima which is doubtful then the person who took it thought it was odd. It seems the desperation to see a miracle was at work.
Some of the witnesses must have been liars
It seems that a crowd that could have been between 50,000 and 70,000 were at the Cova and were drenched to the skin (The Thunder of Justice, page 137). It seems they were up to their ankles in mud. But when the crowd endured so much discomfort which would only have brought them ridicule if nothing happened it is clear that they were desperate to convince themselves or their companions that they saw something. At that stage there was no miraculous or scientific proof that the children were telling the truth. Most of the people then had no regard for evidence and would lie or convince themselves they saw something when they saw nothing.
Many people would have said they saw something though they did not. The Virgin had said the miracle was for unbelievers and those who saw nothing might have been accused of being so stubborn in unbelief that doing a miracle to convince them would not work.
Also anybody who
defended the miracle of the sun was helping to undermine the brutal atheistic
government and would have felt that it was their duty to lie for
The miraculous drying of clothes?
It had been
wet. The people thought their clothes dried miraculously.
They must not have realised that they had not been wet or not noticed that
they had dried out which shows what kind of mental state many of them were
in. Even today, people claim
The majority of testimonies about the Solar Miracle of 1917 never mention the drying of clothes. This is inexplicable. Many of them would have thought that what happened the sun was an illusion especially after hearing that the sun only seemed to move where they were at. So they would have dwelt more on the instant drying had it really happened. There is one eyewitness testimony that says the drying never took place. Please read the testimonies compiled by Jaki.
The photos show no evidence of anybody getting wet or being wet at all. And that includes the photos from minutes before the Miracle.
Not all saw the solar miracle
The Virgin had vowed at Valinhos
to convince all that her apparitions were true and from God by performing a
great miracle (The Thunder of Justice, page
137). But all in the Cova did not see the miracle of the sun so she lied. The Church lies that the 70,000 did see
the miracle (page 54, What Happened at Fatima?) but then we are told
that no two people seem to have seen the same thing (page 55, What Happened
In a Fortean Picture Library photo in The Book
Miracles some of the people are not looking up at the solar miracle
evidently because they have seen nothing and all of the faces looking up are
not amazed. There are no open
mouths or hands to the mouth.
There is nobody showing any sign of fear.
This picture tells a lot of the real truth about the solar miracle. It says Lucia herself did not see the
miracle (page 54, What Happened at
An illusion?
Fr Manuel Pereira da Silva wrote that the sun seemed to have come down to the height of the clouds and began to whirl. The people looked yellow. But if you look up at the sun and pretend you don't know how high it is it looks as if it is as high as the clouds. And looking at the sun would make it seem to whirl especially when it is a scary thing to look at for we all know what harm it can do to your eyes. The people looked jaundiced because you cannot see colours right if you have just been looking at an excessively bright light.
An account in a newspaper, Ordem, mentioned the sun changing colours and whirling. That can be explained by looking at something too bright for you. It would do strange things to the eyes. The heat mentioned at the time of the miracle was caused by excitement.
Dr Almeida
Garret who witnessed the miracle did not agree with the people who said the
sun turned a dull silver. He
remarked how the sun could be looked at without pain but sometimes that can
be done. It is easy when you are
excited and anxious to see the paranormal before your very eyes.
If you want to fire walk, you won't even feel the heat when the desire takes
over and you parade across the coals. Same effect.
If you want to fire walk, you won't even feel the heat when the desire takes over and you parade across the coals. Same effect.
Because some
people reported seeing something happening over
The people at the Cova knew that the children stared into space with few blinks to see their vision which was the traditional practice. When two or more people stare at a strong light source they will be subjected to illusions and different colours and the light changing shape and seeming to come towards them or go away from them. Try it and see. You can make a room seem to fill up with light and colour and things seem to move simply by staring fixedly at the one spot. Many of the people in the crowd wanted to see a vision and they would have stared deliberately and perhaps in eagerness to see something and the illusion started.
Garret said that the clouds seemed to pass behind the sun. But then the miracle of the sun was deceptive for there is no evidence that the sun moved that day except in the eyes of the people. Science can prove that it did not move. Would God do such a dishonest miracle? When the best ever miracle implies that God is a trickster the rest can't be reliable at all. Some of the people thought the sun was coming at them which scared them witless and could have prevented them from thinking straight. If there had been no miracle they would have imagined there had been. If a layer of clouds obscures the sun the sun can look pearly. Clouds look pearly. The light could be bright enough to make it look like the clouds are moving behind it and not in front. People do not normally look at the sun so don't be surprised if these explanations seem too simple to be true.
The stratospheric dust
Steuart Campbell found that a
cloud of stratospheric dust could explain the miracle and change the image
of the sun and make it easy to look at (The Miracle of the Sun at Fatima,
of Meteorology, UK, Vol 14, no. 142,
October, 1989). The sun could
still have been strongly bright depending on where one was standing that day
meaning that different people could have seen different things. And besides if you see the sun changing
you will be caught up in fear and how accurate would your memory be of it? The dust can make the sun easy to look
at and make it appear to be different colours even blue and violet. He reported that a similar event happened in
Catholics dismiss this for they say it doesn't explain how the sun moved across the sky and zig-zagged. Not everybody saw the alleged zig-zagging and if you look at a bright object and look away to the side it may seem to have moved to where your eyes are focused on now. The object may look smaller which can give the impression that it is going back and if you look at the object again it will seem as if the object is coming closer to you for it will look bigger than the illusion.
Lucia reflects badly on the miracle
The centrepiece of it all was Lucia who warned the miracle was coming and told the people to look at the sun.
Her manipulative tendencies are well noted.
And it did not stop with the miracle of the sun. An aurora borealis took place over Europe in January 1938 and lasted from 8.45 pm to 1.15 am the next morning. Lucia proclaimed that the Virgin had predicted the coming of this "unknown light" and said it signalled the start of a world war. From eyewitness accounts the light looked reddish and gave the impression that fire had broken out. In some places, the lights were a beautiful display.
There was nothing magical abut the aurora borealis. And it was not the first light in the sky and not the last. It suited Lucia to treat it as important as World War II broke out soon after.
Nobody asks why the timing is still a bit odd. Why could God not have sent it a few days or the day before the War?
The cause was actually "a large sunspot" - (Nature, January 22, 1938, p.156).
Read Nature, January 29, 1938, p.192. February 5, 1938, p.232-235. Nature, April 16, 1938, p.686-7.
The prophecy of the light contains errors. Mary said that "If people do not cease offending God, a worse [war] will break out during the reign of Pius XI. When you see a night illumined by an unknown light, know that this is the great sign given to you by God that He is about to punish the world for its crimes, by means of war, famine and persecutions of the Church and of the Holy Father." The person who makes out that a war that killed many innocent people and children is a punishment is the lowest of the low. And the persecutions of the pope did not happen. The aurora was not an unknown light. It was natural.
There is no evidence that the prophecy was written before the event. It was not mentioned even until 1940.
There has never been a proven prophecy where somebody was named like the pope was that came true.
The message reflects badly on the miracle
The solar miracle is dubious because it happened for
the sake of the message of
If it was a miracle, then it was a miraculous illusion.
It was a divine magic trick.
It is an indignity to God to suggest that he does such things. A real God does real miracles. If the solar miracle of
The Catholic Church says divine miracles have mostly
good fruits.
When most people wreak havoc over religion though they do not know if it is right or wrong why trust them when they cry, "Miracle"?
Let us finish
with an important line in Mc Clure's wonderful
book, The Evidence for Visions of the Virgin Mary, "There are
surprisingly few convincing accounts of the solar event at
It seems 10,000 people saw the Miracle of the Sun at Heroldsbach, Germany in 1949 which was a place graced by alleged apparitions. The Church, through the bishop of the diocese and the Holy Office, condemned the apparitions for hereticla teaching. By implication, the Miracle of the Sun associated with the visions was condemned too. One witness declared that the sun "grew lighter and lighter and more dazzling. The sun seemed to become more blinding and bigger and to be coming nearer us. I felt blinded. I had the overwhelming impression of something quite abnormal and also felt that something awful was going to happen at any minute. I was terrified ... Then the sun began to turn very quickly on its own axis and the rotations were so clearly visible that it seemed as if a motor was turning the sun's disc at a regular speed. During this process it took on the most wonderful colours."
The Miracle of the Sun does not mean that Mary really appeared at Fatima.
The greatest
miracle of all time, the solar miracle of The Church investigated the apparitions of Fatima but it
never ever investigated the solar miracle. It never looked for
depositions about it. Why did so few write down what they experienced?
Why should we take it seriously when we have no depositions?
The Church investigated the apparitions of Fatima but it never ever investigated the solar miracle. It never looked for depositions about it. Why did so few write down what they experienced? Why should we take it seriously when we have no depositions?
Kevin McClure states it so well -
"there are many factors that prevent us drawing the simple conclusion that a divinely-inspired miracle took place. Firstly, there were many representatives of the press present at the Cova, both journalists and photographers. There are many photographs of the crowd witnessing the vision; but in spite of the presence of cameras there is no photograph of the event that is even vaguely authentic... What were the photographers doing? How could anyone miss a scoop like that? Secondly, it is clear that only a proportion of the crowd, probably less than half, actually witnessed the miracle... Thirdly, the accounts of the miracle, of the 'dance of the sun,' are simply not consistent... these contradictions must raise some doubts as to the objective nature of what was seen." (Pg. 78-79, The Evidence for Visions of the Virgin Mary, Kevin McClure, Aquarian Press, Wellingborough, Northamptonshire, 1985).
From: The Evidence for Visions of the Virgin Mary,
Kevin McClure, Aquarian Books, Northamptonshire, 1983)
"Nothing about Fatima has turned out to be in the least bit simple or straightforward at all. Indeed, I have never seen such a collection of contradictory accounts of a case in any of the research I have done in the past ten years. Part of the problem is that very little was written about Fatima before the end of the Second World War, and most of the Catholic commentaries seem to date from after 1950. Thirty year later is not an ideal time to start writing about any event. Also, much of the original material, published at the same time as the visions, has become confused with the content of Lucia Santos' memoirs, which were only published in 1942" (page 72).
"It is difficult to find any two accounts of the visions of May and June 1917 that agree in detail" (page 73).
"With the fifth apparition, on 13 September 1917... there are UFO-type phenomena
witnessed by others besides the children, and ... there is the vision of the
Virgin. Many of those present saw nothing at all..." (page 76).
"There are many factors that prevent us drawing the simple conclusion that a divinely-inspired miracle took place. Firstly, there were many representatives of the press present at the Cova, both journalists and photographers. There are many photographs of the crowd witnessing the vision; but in spite of the presence of cameras there is no photograph of the event that is even vaguely authentic; the one usually presented is actually of a solar eclipse in another part of the world, taken some time before 1917. What were the photographers doing? How could anyone miss a scoop like that? Secondly, it is clear that only a proportion of the crowd, probably less than half, actually witnessed the miracle. There is some evidence to the effect that only those who were standing in a broad band across the centre of the Cova saw the vision; but the truth of this is now impossible to establish. Thirdly, the accounts of the miracle, of the 'dance of the sun,' are simply not consistent" (page 78).
"These contradictions must raise some doubts as to the objective nature of what
was seen" (page 79).
"On the whole I have been disappointed to find that there is less to most of the visions than originally seemed to be the case. In the seven major speaking visions... we have a total of only nineteen witnesses telling us about the actual visions. All of them are children, most of them barely literate, and having very little experience in life. The contemporary investigation was often shabby and incomplete, and the recording of the witnesses' own accounts often took place far too long after the events for accuracy... Consequently, while I am prepared to accept that most of the visions were genuine for the visionaries, I am not convinced that any external force, entity or intelligence had a part in any of the reported visions... what emerges from the stories of the visions may be a contact with some sort of externalized form established by belief or hope over the years, and perceived by those who were prepared for it, who were in the right frame of mind" (pages 150-151).
In October 1917, during the vision's last visit to
The complaint I would have to make about the book is
the assumption that the miracle of the sun at
Lucia had shouted at the crowd to look at the sun and later she said she didn't remember doing so and there is evidence documented in the book of amnesia. Something was playing games with her brain. How can we trust her visions when we cannot trust her memory? The amnesia sounds like that reported in most apparitions involving aliens.
Curiously the book omits the fact that UFO's were seen
in the month preceding the solar miracle. Two priests and a child saw a glowing
globe slowly moving from east to west and it vanished in a flash of light. Others who saw it said it came down to
the apparition site and said it looked like an airplane. During the same occasion, the lady made
petals seem to fall – this is a mark of many UFO events (page 76, 77, The
Evidence for Visions of the Virgin Mary, Kevin McClure, Aquarian Books,
Northamptonshire, 1983). This
can be taken as confirmation that the children were not seeing Mary but
having experiences akin to what people having visions of spaceships and
aliens experience. McClure says
Lopes Vieira and a group many kilometres away from Fatima saw something like
a revolving globe of snow over Fatima that day (page 76, The Book of
Miracles, Headline,
The vision of Gilberto Santos at
It is interesting that on the anniversary of the first Mary vision, May 13th, 1925 that the sun was seen at Alcacer do Sal behaving suspiciously like spaceships. Luis Antonio Carraca and his family and fifteen others saw the sun change shape and then glowing objects started to appear around it and started to turn into multicoloured lights that framed the sun (page 111, 112).
At Fatima in 1957, Father Anibal Coelho, the Postmaster General and others saw a UFO
The Amplified Bible
The Following Work Explains the Miracle of the Sun http://www.meessen.net/AMeessen/MirSun.pdf
Its written by Professor Auguste Meessen
Institute of Physics, Catholic Univeristy of Louvain.
Alexandrina The Agony and the Glory, Francis Johnson,
"Apparitions and Miracles of the Sun." International Forum in Porto "Science, Religion and Conscience". 31 Dec. 1005, 1645-6564: 199-222.
Celestial Secrets, The Hidden History Of The Fatima
Incident, Anomalist
Fatima Revealed and Discarded, Bro Michael of the Holy Trinity, Augustine, Devon, 1988
Is This The Third Secret? IF Colquhoun, 45 Nicholas Court, Swansea, 1995
Looking for a Miracle, Joe Nickell, Prometheus Books, New York, 1993
Novos Documentos de Fatima, Loyola editions, San Paulo, 1984
Queen of Peace (Newspaper), Fall 1995, Pittsburgh Center for Peace
Reason and Belief, Bland Blanschard, London, George Allen and Unwin Ltd, 1974
The Book of Miracles, Stuart Gordon, Headline, London, 1996
The Evidence for Visions of the Virgin Mary, Kevin McClure, Aquarian Press, Wellingborough, Northamptonshire, 1985
The Rosary and the Crisis of Faith, Msgr. Joseph a. Cirrincione and Thomas A. Nelson, Tan, Illinois, 1986
The Third Secret of Fatima, Brother Michael of the Holy Trinity CRC, Tan, Illinois, 1991
The Thunder of Justice, Ted and Maureen Flynn, Maxcol Communications Inc. Sterling VA, 1993
Unweaving the Rainbow: Science, Delusion and the Appetite for Wonder. Boston: Houghton Mifflin, 1998. 133-135
What Happened at Fatima? Leo Madigan, Catholic Truth Society,
Dunning, Brian. "Illuminating the Fatima "Miracle of the Sun"." Skeptoid Podcast. Skeptoid Media, Inc., 22 Jul 2008. Web. 25 Jan 2012. <http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4110>
The Crowd During the Miracle of the Sun – from www.fatimaconference.org
Notice that the photos show they were taken in ordinary light. The miracle then didn't show up on camera! Some people had to shield their eyes to look at the sun. Others look too relaxed to be seeing a miracle. Some are not looking at the sun at all.
Our photographer didn't see much when he was so interested in photographing the people!
This photograph plainly shows some
people were looking at the sun during the "miracle". Others were
completely disinterested because nothing was happening.
This photograph plainly shows some people were looking at the sun during the "miracle". Others were completely disinterested because nothing was happening.
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Banned for thinking that a common pistol could ever be superior to Clint Eastwood's gun! "You feelin' lucky, punk?"
Banned for idiocy. AGAIN!
Wasn't makin' fun of it, I was praising Revolvers. My favorite weapon in Red Dead Redemption is the LeMat Revolver, despite it's low-tier status (Revolvers are wholly inferior to Pistols and Repeating Rifles at mid-range...).
Banned for thinking that a common pistol could ever be superior to Clint Eastwood's gun! "You feelin' lucky, punk?"
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Banned for lack of real gun knowledge. This here site supports the 2nd amendment, son. ... Actually that's probably a load'a shit lol.
LeMat Revolvers in pristine condition are literally unheard of since all three mass-produced models were widely used only in Mexico, though some famous persons in the US have had it as their trusty side-arm. Even working LeMats, terrible condition or not, are bloody rare since any ones that are less than a hundred years old could only of been hand-crafted by a gunsmith/are a 21st century reproduction. They are by no means common these days.
Also, I'm feelin' real lucky. I own like, 6 Lucky Eggs. Across multiple versions, 'course.
Banned for assuming that "Tamps" is low on gun knowledge and isn't a card carrying member of the NRA. Also banned for not knowing I've won multiple shooting tournaments at the collegiate and amateur level in both handguns and rifle-skeet shooting! AND...also banned for not knowing my father owns a gun range. ANNNNND also banned for not knowing I own 2 different .45 caliber handguns in a 16 gun collection! ANNNNNNNNNND banned for not knowing I've cleaned and maintained firearms as a side job for almost 10 years!
Actually, none of the above is true except for the "banned" part...just thought it would be fun to really show you up one day if I could...someday it'll happen!
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Banned for thinking that someone with 600 posts is "too new of a member" for anything, given the current wiichat population...
...especially since board games posts don't add to that count!
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Banned for not realizing that board games wiichat posts are one of the most sacred and important drivers of our daily lives, and without them we would have to resort to coming up with other, more intelligent things to say in other threads...
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Skip to comments.'NHS should not treat those with unhealthy lifestyles' say Tories
Posted on 09/04/2007 3:07:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Patients who refuse to change their unhealthy lifestyles should not be treated by the NHS, the Conservatives said today.
In a bid to ease spiralling levels of obesity and other health concerns, a Tory panel said certain treatments should be denied to patients who refuse to co-operate with health professionals and live healthier lifestyles.
And those who do manage to improve their general health by losing weight and quitting smoking, for example, would receive "Health Miles" cards.
Points earned could then be used to pay for health-related products such as gym membership and fresh vegetables.
The aim is a shift in the NHS towards preventing disease and ill-health rather than having to treat it.
The proposal was one of a raft of measures suggested in a review of public services, ordered by David Cameron.
The 200-page study, entitled Restoring Pride in Our Public Services, was carried out by the Conservative public services improvement policy group's review co-chaired by former health secretary Stephen Dorrell and leading educationalist Baroness Perry.
"It is inconsistent with the concept of the responsible citizen to imagine that it is realistic for citizens, having paid their taxes, to expect that the state will underwrite the health implications of any lifestyle decision they choose to make," the report states.
Along with the health proposals were a raft of suggested changes in education and housing.
Smaller schools, it has been suggested, would improve overall results.
In cases where pupil numbers are falling large schools in the centre of London and other cities would be closed, rather than smaller schools in outlying areas. Inner city pupils could be transported to schools in the suburbs and even villages to ensure they remain open.
"Schools within schools" could be created to tackle poor discipline, particularly in large schools, national targets could be reduced and struggling pupils could be forced to repeat their final year at primary school.
Former chief inspector of schools Lady Perry said: "Every time we have a cutting back of numbers in schools, the knee-jerk reaction is to close all the little village schools or suburban schools and bus all the pupils into great big city schools.
"Schools are getting bigger and bigger. All the evidence is that discipline, achievement and standards are better in small schools than they are in big ones. So why don't we instead close the great big city school if numbers start to fall and bus the children out to the villages?
"It does not cost any more. It would be so much more productive for the children from the middle of the city to be taken out to the suburbs."
She branded the trend towards large schools a "disaster" - as Education Secretary Ed Balls hailed moves to create more mergers between schools.
He said: "Rather than set schools against schools, we need to increase collaboration."
The Tories' renewed focus on schools came on the same day shock official figures revealed an 83% in school spending only brings a 1% boost in productivity.
A report from the Office for National Statistics showed state schools were more productive during 1996-99, a period when spending was tight.
Where housing is concerned council tenants who are well-behaved could be given as much as £50,000 to help them buy their first home.
The move to rescue poor families from 'dead-end ghettos' in deprived inner cities is a key part of a Tory review of public services.
Families with a five-year record of good behaviour would be given a 10 per cent stake in their property in a significant extension of Margaret Thatcher's hugely popular right-to-buy scheme.
Under the 1980 Housing Act, families received a discount of up to 50 per cent on the market value of their house depending on how long they had lived there.
By 1995, 2.1 million families had taken advantage of the scheme to buy their home.
The payment would be held as an equity bond and could be used only to buy a home.
Council houses are typically worth between £100,000 and £200,000 on the private market - but some tenants in Westminster and Kensington and Chelsea could be sitting on properties worth as much as £500,000.
The report says a Conservative Government has a duty to transform deprived inner cities into neighbourhoods with a 'sense of local pride and ownership'.
But handing money to council tenants would be highly controversial as ordinary council taxpayers would foot the bill.
The move could also provoke resentment from those who do not qualify for social housing - and will not be able to take advantage of the windfall.
But Tory officials said the financial costs would be outweighed by the long-term social benefits of good behaviour by tenants.
The latest proposal is aimed at boosting individuals' pride in their home by letting them own a share of it.
Other health measures outlined include incentives to encourage GPs to "re-engage" in responsibility for the out-of-hours care provided to their patients, without imposing "undesirable working patterns" on doctors.
Tory leader David Cameron will examine the proposals before deciding which ones to make policy.
Crucially on health, the group concluded that far more focus must be placed by the NHS on public health issues.
"We have considered ideas such as an 'NHS Health Miles Card' to promote the concept of wellbeing," says the report.
"Although much work would be required for development, we think that the creation of a small individual benefit scheme would change the language of health from illness to wellbeing."
The group also warns that public support for the NHS is under threat because of the "failure" to engage citizens in the drive to improve the service and to boost productivity despite the billions being poured into it.
Then do the unhealthy get a tax rebate for all they paid in taxes that went to the NHS?
After all, why should the unhealthy subsidize the healthy?
And that is socialized medicine in a bucket!
When the government is pretty much the sole provider...they're, also, pretty much the sole decider.
oh my gosh — something may hit the fan. What kinds of unhealthy lifestyles are they talking about?
The politically correct crowd will go ballistic about this if they pick on certain types of people such as homosexual men.
Are those men who have anal sex refused treatment too?
But the only problem, with this thinking is obvious, the problems just get worse and ultimately cost more. Prevention is worth an ounce of cure and in socialized medicine, prevention gets bogged down in bureaucracy.
does this include former senator craigs foot tapping habit?
If big government wants to continue to do health care, then big government should provide exercise areas/facilities on every residential block. ...and many other things.
Big government doesn't work except temporarily for the purpose of winning wars. Taxes should be mainly for defense—not for social engineering causes.
And this is one of many reasons why the state has no damned business being involved in it.
By the way, isn't the socialized medicine crowd always talking about everyone having the "right to healthcare"? I guess that "right" just doesn't apply to everyone after all.
and those that vote republican,....and those that have purchased a firearm in the last 10 years......and those who drink red wine, or white, or beer, or other forms of consumable alcohol. Or those that eat meat, or live in certain neiborhoods, or have a home with more than 1000 sq ft of livalbe space....
The aim is a shift in the NHS towards preventing disease and ill-health rather than having to treat it.Translation: NHS is shifting from treatment to preaching. If you get sick, don't come to us for medicine or surgery... but we will tell you where you went wrong.
(And by the way, keep those tax dollars coming our way folks. We're doing one hell of a good job!)
Drinking pints is unhealthy too. Let's see how this goes over in a pub society.
Smoking fags is also unhealthy, in more ways than one. Cigarettes may just kill you.
"What kinds of unhealthy lifestyles are they talking about?"
Quite so...who decides what is unhealthy? Is rock-climbing unhealthy? Surely those who indulge in extreme sports have proportionally higher injury rates.
What about driving a car?
The point is that you do not withold treatment based on value judgements, this is against the basic tenet of medicine, however frustrating it may be.
The whys and wherefores of having a socialised health service is a completly different discussion. The point is that if you have a NHS then the same level of care must be available to all.
How many "Health Miles" is it worth not to hang around bath houses and emulate a Night Depository?
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Coming soon - what hobbies you can have, when to sleep, who can have kids and mandatory abortions for 'difficult' children that will be too expensive.
Eventually, taxes will be almost 100% and the government will control how your money is spent. Socialized medicine, housing, schools, transportation, vacations, food, etc. Basically the same thing as communism without the name.
I escaped grinding communism and thought it was destroyed. Much to my anger, it is very much alive in the west. Every year I feel more like I am back in the USSR with every new law and encroachment on freedom.
First they came after gun owners
I remained silent
I wasn't a gun owner
Then they came after smokers
I did not speak out
I'm not a smoker
Then when they came for me,
There was no one left to speak out...
This is the next logical progression of the tyranny of the Nanny State after Democrat John Edwards' plan to require all US citizens to have an annual checkup. It must be understood that "require" in the context of government means a plan that includes sending armed agents who are charged with either seeing the order complied with or the citizen may die trying to resist.
To be sure, this Road to the Secular Utopia is paved with good intentions, but we have had several decades of predicates that start off with laws requiring this or that (such as seat belts and motorcycle helmets), justified in large measure because the State ends up paying the medical bills of the injured who are not able to pay them. We have recently been further insulted by bans on smoking on private property and even in private automobiles based on the same liberty-destroying reasoning.
The only way to slay this monstrosity is for people to insist on paying their own medical expenses and insurance premiums.
I think that will be the point of socialized medicine.
Eventually EVERYTHING is healthcare.
Remember when those socialist doctors wanted gun control to be a "health care" issue?
Its the Joseph Koctau Joy Joy Be Well version of life behavior enforcement.
Oh for the love of pete!
Tax smokers to death then deny them health care, thats sounds fair.
Alert the mentally fat and lazy here, those who either forgot or never learned what makes the US an exception in world history. Your words could resonate better than a dozen Ronald Reagans. Just do it.
Hm... I don't see anything at all objectionable about this. If they're going to go ahead and have nationalized health care, it seems reasonable to exclude people who PURPOSEFULLY get sick. It's a bad idea to have it nationalized in the first place, but how much worse of an idea is it to subsidize people's destructive habits? The government doesn't exist to remove from people any responsibility in their own lives. This plan seems very reasonable if, as I said, the nationalized health care will proceed no matter what.
"Joseph Koctau Joy Joy Be Well"
So anyone with ANY unsafe or bad behaviors should be excluded? Like AIDS from homosexual sex or IV drug use? Smoking and it's attendent diseases? Eating junk food in any amount? Speeding or other traffic violations? Not aborting a problem baby and carrying it to term? Not exercising?
In a real socialized healthcare plan, the healthy are subsidizing the unhealthy. After all, the healthy don't use the healthcare services. Kind of like those of us in the US who purchase health insurance, but don't get sick. Our money goes to pay for the unhealthy people who use healthcare. I like the plan to give credit to those who live a healthy lifestyle.
"provide exercise areas/facilities on every residential block"
Or you could just walk around the block.
I understand your point but the problems can get even more complicated.
I am white and my ancestors live into their 90's.
Blacks in the U.S. tend to have problems with hypertension and diabetes.
Can we drop them from the health plan since the odds are great they will need extra care?
No of course not.
The only answer is to not start down the road to national health insurance.
All those STILL in favor of government run health care, raise your hands!!
(Neat-o!! We've corned the moron vote!)
An interesting idea. Most people think I am being paranoid and a good amount say I 'need therapy'.
I feel like we are going somewhere worse than communism. The communists never had the pop culture we do. Pop culture pushes me-first, pleasure-first, political correctness and anti-family propaganda. People think the government will pay for their bad choices.
I see kids today being raised by the TV and popping pills to make them easier to manage. They are not allowed to go outside or even play indoors because it's 'dangerous'. And these kids are my cousins with parents that are considered 'good'. In the increasing numbers of broken homes it's probably worse.
An interesting idea. Most people think I am being paranoid and a good amount say I 'need therapy'.
I feel like we are going somewhere worse than communism. The communists never had the pop culture we do. Pop culture pushes me-first, pleasure-first, political correctness and anti-family propaganda. People think the government will pay for their bad choices.
I see kids today being raised by the TV and popping pills to make them easier to manage. They are not allowed to go outside or even play indoors because it's 'dangerous'. And these kids are my cousins with parents that are considered 'good'. In the increasing numbers of broken homes it's probably worse.
'Most people think I am being paranoid"
We have a joke here: "It's not paranoid if they really are out to get you!"
Oh, and welcome to America!
OMG What are the homosexuals going to do now?????
I grew up here, not there, but I concur -- this is not the country in which I was raised. And we're doing it to ourselves.
So they're proposing to bus the hoods to the kids instead of busing the kids to the hood?
If that's true, then we're further gone than I thought (or dared to think).
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I like the comments:
The Tories will never win a election with Cameron as leader,
He comes across as a rich boy that is completely out of touch with the real world. The tories stand a better chance with Hague at least he knows what he is talking about.
- Mick Wright, Wellingborough, UK
I assume people with unhealthy lifestyles will be exempt from paying NI Contributions as well as being exempt from receiving NI benefits. Just lost my vote Mr Cameron.
- F, London
If the object of the exercise is to anihilate the conservative party for all time, I guess Cameron is doing a rather good job.
- Jim, Menton, France
In that case, those with unhealthy lifestyles should not be expected to contribute to the NHS in any way.
- M, Essex
"Well-behaved council tenants to be given £50,000 to help buy homes"
Excellent idea, I'm ecstatic that he wants to give £50k of my money to other people, how very kind of him, and will he be giving me anything for this wanton act of charity on my part?
- Terry Roll, London
I wholeheartedly agree with his stance on those ignorant folk who deliberately ignore their own health and expect every one else to pick up the pieces. It's high time someone took some action on this.
- Simon Caleb, Clapham, London
Heh, we knew this kind of garabage was in the works.
I wonder how long before this spreads here?
Yeah, but they must still pay for it.
I saw that John Edwards thread. You get it, others don't.
This is why places like NYC are agitating for smoking and trans fat bans. 33% of their budget goes towards medical entitlement spending through SCHIP, Medicare and Medicaid. As the baby boomers age, that number will top 50%
If anybody is left here who thinks this is really about smoke in a bar or a simple step to take trans fat out and then they'll stop...then you are a retard.
This is where we are headed in the USA. If Gubmint is given the obligation of paying for your health care, then it is their right, indeed their duty, to intervene and reduce their cost and taxpayer costs. ie: Drop the Chalupa, fatass!
It's here now, sadly.
A fair percentage of medical care is state subsidized and paid for here. "Preventative Medicine" is just a code word for drop the chalupa, stub out the cigarette, put down the beer and start excercising.
Well, that's true.
Liberals never stop. They are the same evil beings in every country.
Alert the mentally fat and lazy here, those who either forgot or never learned what makes the US an exception in world history.
I knew an Armenian woman whose uncle somehow got her family permission to leave the USSR. She said they were supposed to leave at a certain time, and they disposed of all their assets and went to the airport - at which time her parents were allowed to go but she and her brother were retained. So they were under tremendous pressure from having no base of support. And a girl (when she said it I looked at her shraply, and she repeated, "I mean a beautiful girl) started playing up to her brother and trying to convince him to stay in Moscow.
I so wished that she could have published that story before Clinton was elected POTUS! He who had gone to Russia and didn't know if he had seen any KGB agents! The actual question to have asked him was if he had met anyone who was not a KGB agent there!
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Arab World Fest returns to the lakefront for three days of Arabic food, culture and entertainment beginning Friday at Maier Festival Park.
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Five movies will be screened Saturday and Sunday during Arab World's Film Festival, including "Omar," a thriller and an Oscar nominee this year for best foreign-language film, at 1:30 p.m. Saturday; "Flying Paper," an upbeat documentary about a Palestinian youth's attempt to set a record for the most kites ever flown, at 4:30 p.m. Saturday; and "Tears of Gaza," a 2010 anti-war documentary, at 7p.m. Saturday.
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