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Dim Sum, Bagels, and Grits: A Sourcebook for Multicultural Familiesby Myra Alperson
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An informed, comprehensive guide to raising a multicultural family.
How many times do you celebrate the New Year at home? Just once? If your family is Jewish, Chinese, and a few other things besides, you might celebrate twice or even three times a year! As the rate of cross-cultural adoption grows in the United States, new traditions are emerging. These are part
An informed, comprehensive guide to raising a multicultural family.
How many times do you celebrate the New Year at home? Just once? If your family is Jewish, Chinese, and a few other things besides, you might celebrate twice or even three times a year! As the rate of cross-cultural adoption grows in the United States, new traditions are emerging. These are part of a new multiculturalism which, with its attendant joys and challenges, has become a fact of life in urban, suburban and even rural America. Alperson's sourcebook offers families the first complete guide to the tangled questions that surround this important phenomenon. As the adoptive Jewish mother of Sadie, her Chinese-born daughter, Alperson is able to offer personal as well as professional insight into such topics as combining cultures in the home, confronting prejudice, and developing role models. Focusing on adoptive families - international and transracial adoption in the United States has jumped in recent years - she provides guidelines on how families can prepare for their exciting journey toward becoming a multicultural family.
In addition to drawing on extensive interviews with such families, her book includes a wealth of on-line and "conventional" resources to find books, food products, toys, clothing, discussion groups and heritage camps that help families to enhance their lives as they build a multicultural home.
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- 03/20/2001
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Dim Sum, Bagels, and Grits
part i
we are family
Who We Are The Facts
I believe that when you become a multiethnic family, you need to change almost as much as the child who joins you. That doesn't mean that you have to cook only Korean food or speak Korean, but you have to be very open to it, and it has to become part of you in some way. If you don't feel that you can somehow identify with this ethnic group, then transcultural adoption is probably not for you!
Seattle mother of four children, two born in Korea, two biological
A Critical Mass
In September 1999 the first international convocation of Korean adopteesorganized by the adoptees themselvestook place in Washington, D.C. Some four hundred adoptees from the United States and Europe took part. This event was a milestone. It represented the first time that adoptees, most in their twenties and thirties, had taken ownership in such a visible and significant way of the dialogue and debate on what it means to be adopted across cultures.
Although the events were closed to non-adoptees, I followed the discussions closely, as reports came in on adoptionlistservs. I also met with some of the organizers. The more I talked with them, the more it became clear that I had a lot to learn, and that the process would be lifelong. Some of the adoptees had taken Korean names; others had kept their American surnames and flaunted them with pride. Some had made a relentless search in Korea to try to find their birth parents; for others this journey was not a priority. And, of course, some adoptees chose to stay home.
Through a Web site related to this gathering, I gained access to a forum that enabled me to experience vicariously the give-and-take between adoptees and parents. Would this be Sadie and me in fifteen years? In each case I was struck by the range of responses, many fraught with emotion. Some grown adoptees reported harboring an abiding hurt over being separated from their birth family. Others were filled with exhilaration at being able to share their life experiences. It was like a coming out party for many of them. The adoption experience, clearly, is hardly monolithic, on the part of either the parents or the adoptees. Coming to terms with being adopted, and being an adoptive parent, can be an ongoing struggle. Parents are particularly tested when children approach young adulthood; this phase of any child's life can be particularly trying.
An underlying theme of the gathering of the Korean adoptees was that intercultural adoption can be an empowering and positive process. The vision statement of one of the organizing groups praises intercultural adoption because of the way in which it enables families to "cross borders of race, ethnicity and blood."
As part of a process of preparing to parent my own child from a different background (and to collect materials for thisbook), over time, I have also listened to young adults born in Latin America as well as black and biracial young adults adopted by white and interracial families within the United States discuss their experiences and dilemmas growing up. In talking to parents whose experiences crossing cultures had preceded mine by many years, I came to realize two critical points. One was that I was hardly alone in my concerns. The second was that it was essential to keep my learning in contextand never to stop listening. Families that adopted from the 1950s through the 1970s, when much less information was available, perhaps had more issues to struggle with and far fewer resources to turn to, including other families who were facing the same challenges. There just weren't as manyand the sharing that comes naturally to many families these days wasn't so automatic then.
Thirty or forty years ago there was little knowledge of what it meant to be cross-cultural, either. The idea was to be American and to leave as much of the past behind as possible. As a consequence, many parents later found themselves doing a quick course in "catch-up" as their children grew older. Pat Palmer, an Iowa mother who has adopted seven children in all, five from Korea who are now in their thirties and two younger children from Vietnam (she also has two birth children), reports:
When my children were young, I was eager to find out anything I could about the experiences of those parents who had adopted Korean children ahead of me, but no one was talking. Parenting Korean children was still at the "experimental stage," and I guess most of those involved didn't want to admit to their detractors, who said intercountry adoption wouldn'twork, that everything wasn't perfect, and so all problems were kept quiet. There were rumors, but not many were talking. And the Korean adoptees themselves hadn't grown up, so they too weren't discussing their experiences.
Over the course of the 1960s and 1970s, key adoption alliances were formed, the adoption literature expanded (the magazine Ours, later renamed Adoptive Families, made its debut in the 1970s), and the number of adoption agencies handling interracial and international adoptions began to multiply. National adoption organizations gained in stature and influence. The first culture camps were organized. was families' experiences with cross-cultural adoption increased, more information became available. Several studies have shown that children adopted interracially generally grow up with their self-esteem and identity intactprovided that their adoptive parents understand the implications of adopting across racial and cultural boundaries and respond accordingly.
Some negative media images of cross-cultural adoption also emergedparticularly in 1972, when the National Association of Black Social Workers (NABSW) pronounced its opposition to interracial adoption. At a conference that year of the North American Council on Adoptable Children in St. Louis, the president of NABSW gave the keynote speech to an audience that included many white parents who had adopted black children. He accused the parents of committing "cultural genocide" and said that these children could not form a sense of black pride or black identity in such families. Despite claims by advocates of interracial adoption that there were not enough families for black children needing homes,NABSW maintained that the opposite was true, but that bureaucratic restrictions were preventing placements from taking place. Among other reactions to the NABSW's controversial stance was the departure of some of its members and the passage of a resolution by the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) supporting interracial adoption. Nonetheless, as a result of NABSW's public statement, interracial adoption placements declined dramatically through the rest of the 1970s and into the early 1980s.
Meanwhile, parents did their best. Kirstin Nelson, the biracial daughter (now a thirty-two-year-old law school graduate) of a Nebraska couple who adopted other biracial children, reports:
My favorite childhood books were from the Little House series (it was my favorite TV show, too), and I also loved Nancy Drew. I distinctly remember my parents trying to guide me toward books on Harriet Tubman and other stories with black characters and themes. I did read many of those books, but the Little House books remained my favorites. I really don't think it made any difference in the long run whether I read or played "Little House" or "Underground Railroad"although I did both over the years.
I think the best thing to do is provide as many options as possible but let your kids make their own choices and decisions about what they are interested in. There is a fine line between guidance and over-parenting.
By the 1990s, the cumulative numbers of interracial and international adoptions, along with ease of access to adoption information via the Internet, transformed the adoptionprocess. With little more than a keyboard and a modem (and a credit card), we could get most of the information we needed to learn how to adopt, where to adopt, how to find families like ours, and how to hook up with support networks.
These days, the questions I raised about my own ability to raise a child born in another culture and of another ethnicity are being echoed more widely as many more families are being created or are expanding through multicultural adoption. Recommendations on how to move forward are far easier to come by. Discussion groups on the Internet enable parents with common adoption interests, wherever they live, to share information. And the e-commerce revolution makes it possible to obtain difficult-to-find books, clothing, food, music, and other resources and to develop a multicultural environment for our families, whether we live in a rural area or a large city.
Yet merely acquiring multicultural materials and taking part in cultural activities will not address our children's emotional and psychological needs as cross-cultural adoptees, nor will these approaches to parenting our children make up for the fact. that they have lost something most of us take for granted: their birth culture. As parents we need to recognize that being a multicultural family is not something to celebrate only on special occasions; it is a fact of our daily lives. Being vigilant of the needs of children whom Pat Palmer aptly describes as "double minorities," that is, adoptees who do not share their parents' ethnic background, must be a key element in our overall approach to parenting.
How Cross-Cultural Adoptions Began
To put this discussion into context, I think it helps to understand how and why cross-cultural adoptions came about in the first place, and what the current patterns and trends appear to be.
Cross-cultural adoption from outside the United States began in a significant way in the late 1940s, when homes were sought for European children orphaned during World War II and following the Greek Civil War. Occasionally we read accounts of these orphansnow grownup and connecting with their roots, or perhaps seeking lost relativesbut the adoptees tend to be scattered.
Cross-racial adoptions of Korean children orphaned in the Korean War began in the 1950s. Many of these children were ethnically mixedtheir mothers were Korean and their fathers were of the race or ethnicity of the various military forces involved in the conflict. Because Korean society rejected children born out of wedlockand ostracized their mothersmost of these mixed-race children were rejected by their biological families and placed in institutions. Koreans were not prepared to raise mixed-race children.
Neither, to some extent, were people in the United States. These early adoptions represented, in the words of Madelyn Freundlich, former executive director of the Evan B. Donaldson Adoption Institute in New York City, a type of "crazy social experiment." Children from a specific Asian culturewere placed with families in the United States who generally knew little or nothing about that culture. In those days it was rare for families to travel to Korea to adopt; in almost all cases the children were escorted by adoption professionals on the long plane ride to the United States (certainly longer in those days than it is now!), and their first encounter with their new family was in an airport.
Imagine this experience reported by Pat Palmer when her family attended its first potluck supper with other adoptive families in the early 1970s:
There we were with our four young childrenfive, three, three, and one, two by birth and two by adoptionwith families who had adopted in the early to mid-sixties and their school-age children. A minister and his wife led the program afterward and introduced a song they had written for the occasion, which we all sang. It was a sad little dirge entitled "Who Needs Me?" about Korean orphans and their rescuers/adoptive parents. I looked around the room at the school-age Korean children and wondered what they were thinking. I was glad my children, all four of them, were too young to understand.
The international adoption of Korean children (mainly in the United States but also in some European countries, and overwhelmingly by white couples) continued over the next four decades for a number of reasons. First, as Korean adoptions became more widely known and perceived as "successful," infertile couples seeking healthy newborns sought to adopt from Korea. Second, Korea itself did not have a tradition of adoption, and the state infrastructure for caring for orphaned and abandoned children was overburdened. Seeingthat families in the United States and Europe were willing to adopt children whose own families could not care for them, Korea established formal agreements with overseas agencies to make the process more efficient. From the mid-1950s to 2000, close to 100,000 children were adopted by families in the United States. In all, some 141,000 Korean children were adopted worldwide during that period.
In the intervening decades, international adoption grew in waves, with some countries dominating placements at different times. During the early 1990s the numbers stayed steady at about 7,000 to 9,000 per year. But during the second half of the decade they gradually veered upward. More than 16,000 "orphan visas" were issued in 1999 by the U.S. State Department, owing to a number of factors:
• Adoption itself was becoming a more popular way to form or expand a family.
• More older couples and single people were adopting (thanks, in large part, to sponsor countries formulating policies that welcome these people to apply).
• More employers were adding adoption support to their benefits packages.
• More countries that lacked the capacity to care for abandoned children adequately were creating programs to make adoption possible.
• The breakup of the Soviet Union and more outreach to the West increased adoption opportunities in some of the newly formed countries of what had been the Eastern bloc.
• Increased contact with China also led to increased opportunities for Western families to adopt Chinese children, mostly girls.
• The Internet streamlined the adoption process. In addition to private agencies going on-line, the State Department published adoption guidelines and offered essential forms on-line that families needed to file with the Immigration and Naturalization Service to get the process going.
• In 2000, new legislation granted automatic United States citizenship to internationally adopted children.
• More information on cross-cultural adoption became generally available, both in print and via electronic media.
• Finally, cross-cultural adoption itself became more "socially acceptable" in line with overall social trends.
We have solid data on international cross-cultural adoptions because the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) tracks the numbers of immigrant visas issued to adopted children.
To give you an idea of how adoption patterns change, here's a sampling of the number of international adoptions in the United States in 1989, 1994, and 1999, based on the number of visas issued to children who were adopted by U.S. citizens.
Some adoption patterns have changed dramatically. China and Russia, which barely registered on the adoption radar screen in 1989, each processed more than four thousand adoptions in 1999.
Although data on the age and marital status of adoptive parents have not been formally collected, many agencies report that the types of households now adopting children are changing and more nontraditional families are adopting children. A contributing factor, as has already been noted, is the growing number of employers, from universities to corporations and federal agencies, that are extending parental leave benefits to families who are adopting. (Working Woman magazine lists adoption benefits as one of its criteria for selecting the "100 Best Companies for Women.")
Just ten years ago, I would have had far fewer options, as a single woman over forty, to adopt. China didn't have a formal program yet, and the few countries that did were not welcoming applicants like me. Adoption e-mail discussion groups now include subgroups of "older" parents, and several new books focus on guiding single individuals through the adoption labyrinth, including tips on money management, estate preparation, childcare, and other concerns. We've come a long way, in a relatively short time, from the days when women in my situation had to search long and hard, sometimes for years, to find an adoption agency that would help us fulfill our quest to become parents. In her book Family Bonds, Elizabeth Bartholet describes her own harrowing quest to adopt in Latin America in the mid-1980s as an older single woman. Although the book came out in 1993not so long agothe adoption process and the attitudes toward older,single women adopting have changed dramatically since then.
The number of children adopted domestically by families of a different background than their own is far harder to measure. Historically, interracial adoption within the United States only began to grow in significant numbers in the 1960s. The introduction of the birth control pill meant that fewer babiesespecially white babieswould be placed for adoption. Therefore many white couples turned to interracial domestic adoption to form their families. As many as twenty thousand such placements had occurred by the time the NABSW issued its statement against interracial adoption in 1972.
Interracial placements stalled for several years until federal and state legislationand public pressureloosened restrictions on cross-racial adoptions. Many more black children than white children were waiting for permanent homes. (Constance Pohl and Kathy Harris, authors of Transracial Adoption, note that despite reforms, the numbers of minority children awaiting placement rose in the 1990s. Bureaucratic red tape seemed to be largely to blame, as well as a preference by adoptive parents for younger, emotionally healthy children. In some cases, parents-to-be opt for foreign adoption because the process often moves more quickly than it does in domestic adoption, and some parents feel they are more likely to be matched with healthier and younger children. Furthermore, fewer babies are being placed for adoptionwithin the United States, prompting more parents to look abroad.)
The NABSW position against interracial adoption had an important positive outcome: it stressed the need for families who did undertake cross-racial adoption to understand their responsibilities to maintain their children's racial identity. That legacy can be seen even to this day in adoption training, whether prospective parents seek to adopt across cultures from within the United States or from another country.
The National Adoption Information Clearinghouse (NAIC), an offshoot of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, maintains a database of adoptions in the United States. But getting consistent figures is difficult, the NAIC reports. There has been no organized national data collection on adoption since 1975. The quality of reporting that does exist varies widely by state, and current figures are often based on educated guesses. For the purposes of this book, after analyzing a range of NAIC data, including those on foster care placements, we can make a broad estimate that there are, nowadays, from 10,000 to 25,000 domestic interracial adoptions per year.
An important milestone in adoption awareness was marked in 1997 with the release of a benchmark survey by the Evan B. Donaldson Adoption Institute in New York City. The survey of 1,554 adults reviewed public perceptions and contact with adoption. The results give a clear picture of how much progress multicultural families have made in gainingrecognition for themselves since the 1950s (recognition gained through positive and negative media exposure). Particularly revealing were the following findings:
• Six in ten Americans have had personal experience with adoption, meaning that they reported that they themselves, a family member, or a close friend was adopted, had adopted a child, or had placed a child for adoption. Those who have had firsthand experience are more supportive of adoption than those who haven't.
• Although most Americans (90 percent) view adoption very favorably or somewhat favorably, many Americans (64 percent) have never considered adopting a child, and about half (49 percent) believe that adoption is not quite as good as raising one's own biological child.
• Women embrace adoption more fully than men do. Thirty-six percent of women express unqualified support compared with 27 percent of men.
• Three times as many whites (35 percent) as blacks (11 percent) are full supporters of adoption.
• Nearly half of Americans (45 percent) say that family members and friends are their main source of information about adoption, whereas 30 percent get their information from news sources and 16 percent from magazines.
• Half of those surveyed (52 percent) believe children adopted from other countries are more likely than children adopted in this country to have emotional problems,and nearly the same proportion (48 percent) say children from abroad are less likely to be physically healthy On the other hand, most Americans do not believe that children adopted internationally are any more likely to have trouble in school than children adopted from within this country.
Although one of the great joys of being a multicultural family is that we can enjoy diversity within our own family unit, one of the hassles can be that our families stand out as "obviously" different in the larger community, so we may be called upon to "explain" ourselves. One reason that some white couples (and some singles) seek to adopt white children is to form the type of family the adoptive parents "might have had" if they had given birth. Another motivation may be to avoid the hassles of having to explain differences, particularly if the family lives in a community that may seem less than accepting.
But an important aspect of "who we are" is facing the fact of adoption honestly, particularly by families whose adopted child resembles her parents enough that it seems unnecessary to highlight the different cultural background and lack of blood ties. White parents who adopt white children, even when their ethnic roots are not the same, may feel that emphasizing differences will not promote a cohesive family unit.
A friend of mine who is the adoptive father of two children from Romania admitted that he felt uncomfortable when the magazine then known as Ours was renamed AdoptiveFamilies in 1994. To him, Ours sounded better because the title did not stigmatize the adoptive family as being other, and therefore different from "conventional" families. Both he and his wife share their children's East European ancestry (but not their birth religion). You wouldn't know from meeting the parents and their two kids that the family came together through adoption.
These parents, nevertheless, acknowledge that the adoption story must be told, and that their children's heritage is part of it. So they have always talked openly about the circumstances surrounding the adoption, and the family's two adoption trips to Romania. (They have met the birth mother of their children, who are half-siblings.) They have Romanian artifacts in their home.
But what if these children were born in, say, Eastern Europe, and the parents' ethnic origin was, say, Irish or Italian? What if the parents themselves represented two different religions, and the child's roots were different from both parents'? Should we make room for all the heritages in such a family?
Even if our adopted children's background is similar to ours, don't we owe it to our children to preserve some of their birth heritage? Is it fairwhether they came to us as infants or as somewhat older childrento erase a portion of their unique rootsand their very own story? If we do cut out this aspect of their lives, how will we prepare them for the questions that may come later?
You might say, as some parents do, that adopted children should not have to face an additional identity trauma by being bombarded with reminders of where they came from. When I told the social worker who wrote my home study that I was
• thinking of hiring a Chinese baby-sitter for Sadie since Iwanted to promote the use of Chinese language and customs in our home, she gently scolded me: "She's going to be your daughter raised in an American household. You can give her as much Chinese culture as you want, but don't confuse her!" She feared that my daughter might identify more closely with such a sitter than with me. (I'm sure the response would have been different if I had been a Chinese-American. And I know quite a few adoptive parents who disagree with this stance and have hired Chinese nannies.)
On the other hand, without creating identity confusion, we can expose our children to their birth cultureand share itas one aspect of our family life, just as we observe birthdays and holidays. It's part of who we are.
Who We Arein the Twenty-first Century
In ways that I sometimes think elude many parentsand perhaps critics of multiculturalismour children are growing up in a world that is increasingly multicultural, and they're experiencing the phenomenon in a far different way than we are, especially if we grew up in the 1950s and 1960s. The pervasiveness of multiculturalism in our daily lives, in any family's daily life, makes parenting our kind of family easier and potentially much more fulfilling. For the same reason, I worry a bit less about some of the stigmas traditionally attached to adoption; there's just too much adoption for people to view it pejoratively the way they once did.
We increasingly find that our children's values and activities are part of a global values system (catalyzed, for better or worse, by the growing impact of "global brands," such as McDonald's, Levi's, and Sony, as well as by the media).Teenagers the world over dress more and more alike (including dyeing their hair different colors and piercing odd parts of their body), listen to the same music (rap is a global phenomenon), play the same computer games, and identify with the same teen idols. They cheer worldwide for such "crossover" phenomena as Ricky Martin and Jackie Chan. And, of course, they take the Internet for granted.
Okay, so the world is changing. But who are we now? How truly significant is the "multicultural" family in the United States? In particular, where does the multicultural family stand in the big picture, which includes multicultural, multiracial families formed through marriage?
There are many anecdotal examples to demonstrate the growing influence of multiculturalism on American families, regardless of whether the families were formed through adoption or through birth. As a parent, I encounter these phenomena often. They include the following:
• There is a proliferation of international activities in our children's schools, starting as early as nursery school. "International Days" are now often part of the curricula. More enlightened schools promote a range of holidays, so that Christmas and Chanukah are just two of the several holiday traditions children are exposed to. (My daughter's nursery school even celebrates Tet, a Southeast Asian holiday.) Many children also learn about Diwali, the Hindu Festival of Lights; Ramadan, the Muslim period of fasting; Kwanzaa, the African-Americanwinter celebration that draws on African and African-American ideas and traditions to celebrate history, culture, and community; and the lunar new year observed in much of the Far East.
• In growing numbers of children's books, children of various racial and ethnic backgrounds are depicted, without necessarily being part of the story. Authors such as Helen Oxenbury and Vera Williams have developed a following of readers who take for granted the multihued families that populate their stories.
• The theme of diversity is key to the story in a growing number of children's books. Such books would not be published if there were no market for them. An excellent example is Anti-Bias Books for Kids, published by Redleaf Press. Each book includes characters of different ethnic backgrounds, and one of them usually has a physical disability, but is mainstreamed with friends. Many publishers now have divisions that specialize in multicultural themes. The Hyperion imprint "Follow the Sun" emphasizes books on African-American subjects. (See Chapter 7, Publications.)
• Toys are more deliberately multicultural today. Companies such as Crayola and Mattel (the maker of Barbie) have created "multicultural" product lines. Some smaller companies focus exclusively on offering culturally diverse products.
• There is a growing industry of catalogs and on-line resources for multicultural books and toys, targeting parentswho have adopted cross-culturally (and who tend to be older and more affluent than most families in general). Quite a few owners of such companies are adoptive parents themselves, who have started a cottage industry of home-based businesses that produce goods and services for this market.
• Mainstream children's television programming places a greater emphasis on multiculturalism, with pioneering shows such as Sesame Street leading the way.
We see increased examples of multiculturalism in our adult lives, too.
• Ethnic foodwell beyond Chinese and Italianis more widely available at restaurants and in cookbooks; these days ethnic fast food can be found in the freezer sections of many supermarkets.
• "World music" has gained popularity, helped along by performers such as Paul Simon and David Byrne, who have cultivated partnerships with musicians on every continent. (Who would have imagined just a few years ago seeing the South African ensemble Ladysmith Black Mambazowhich performs in the Zulu languagesinging backup for a commercial for LifeSavers candy?)
• There is more interest in dance styles from Latin America and elsewhere in the world.
• Publications celebrate ethnic consciousness, often through fashion.
• The media is putting more emphasis on arts and literature created by foreign-born artists and writers who, in their work, introduce us to their cultures.
• Ethnic fashion has reached the mainstream. How many moms wore Indian "peasant" skirts when they were younger? Bold African and Latin American colors and patterns are integrated into children's and adult clothing. Remember Mao and Nehru jackets? These days, African kente patterns, Indonesian batiks, and Guatemalan weavings have influenced all sorts of clothing and accessoriesand not only for college students.
• Especially in cities, there is a general awareness of the increasingly multicultural nature of our society, spurred by increased emigration from East and West Africa, regions of south and Southeast Asia and Eastern Europe, as well as from all over Latin America.
As one parent writes:
My wife is Chinese and I am Caucasian, and we have been married eighteen years. In the early years we would get a lot of looks and double takes. As the years passed, Eurasian families and Eurasian children in our community became much more common. We don't warrant a second look today.
Many schools now include "dual-language" programs not just for children for whom English is their second (or third) language, but as a learning opportunity for children who speak English as their first language. The goal here, as I understandit, is both to strengthen the mastery of English for second-language learners and to create a balance and appreciation among students for the language and culture of an ethnic group that may have a significant presence in the community.
For those students whose primary experience of learning English takes place outside the home, the dual-language approach to learning also removes the stigma of being "different." And some studies are now showing that children learning in two languages do at least as well as their counterparts learning in monolingual settings.
For me, a more significant index of the acceptance gained by multicultural families is the growing number of resources available and of activities that are organized for them, often by adults who were adopted cross-culturally Nationally known adoption professionals and advocates such as Deborah Johnson and Susan Soon-Keum Cox speak widely on cross-cultural issues. Johnson also guides homeland tours to Korea and other countries. These advocates, and the activities they have created, make the work of parenting a multicultural family easier and richer.
I have been deeply influenced by my own conversations with adult adoptees. They are the leaders that parents should look to with questions about addressing our children's identity issues.
The Korean adoption communitymainly through the efforts of the organization Also-Known-Ashas spearheaded an amazing array of activities, including discussion forums, a magazine called TransCultured, an outstanding Web site, culturalevents, cooking and language classes, homeland visits, and mentoring programs for younger adopted kids. Launched just in 1997, Also-Known-As is an excellent guidepost for those of us who have adopted younger children across cultural lines.
Of course, Also-Known-As became viable when there was a large enough group of grownup Korean adoptees who shared similar experiences about what it meant to be adopted and raised in communities unfamiliar with adoption and by parents of different races or ethnicities. Many of these adoptees were raised at a time when promoting a separate cultural awareness was something that adoptive families simply did not do. The children were considered Americanand that was that.
As adults, some of these adoptees have embarked on personal journeys to trace their roots, get to know one another, and assert their identities in ways that suit their own needs. Pat Palmer notes that her adopted children went through various identity struggles throughout adolescence, and emerged into very differentand, she says, successfulpeople in adulthood.
Our Korean-American daughter, a professional, has primarily white friends. One Vietnamese-American son, who works for a large pharmaceutical company, is engaged to a Vietnamese immigrant woman and has mostly Asian-American friends. Our other Vietnamese-American son, an inner-city high school teacher, associates mostly with Asian-Americans and Latinos. John, our Korean-American son, focuses on Korea, and as I write he's in Seoul for a month during his university's Christmas break.
John called the three years he lived in Korea (studying for his master's degree) "the most excruciating experience in my life, yet there is no other place I would rather be. I was engulfed into the mainstream of society for the first time in my life, where I was judged by my abilities not by my race. As I continued to build my language skills and cultural awareness I became more Korean every day. Although America is where I live, Korea is now my home." John recently wrote to me, "Being a Korean adoptee puts you in 'Never Never Land' until you make a commitment to either side. You are not white AND you are not Korean."
In a documentary called Crossing Chasms, Jennifer Arndt, a Korean-American filmmaker, chronicles the experiences of several Korean adoptees who have chosen to live and work in Korea, some to stay, others to visit for a short time. She traces her own wrenching, and ultimately fruitless, quest to locate her birth family, including an awkward meeting, rife with anticipation, with a family that turned out not to be related to her.
Young mixed-race adults, including those born to parents who married interracially and those who were adopted transracially, have become more vocal. The Public Broadcasting System documentary An American Love Story, which aired in 1999, explored the life of an interracial couple and their two biracial daughters, and provoked some very interesting debates.
A number of books have also explored the impact of growing up in a multicultural environment. Half & Half, a collection of essays by writers whose backgrounds represent two or more cultures, examines precisely what it means togrow up feeling alienated from "mainstream" culture, but unsure where one belongs. Black, White, Other, by Lise Funderburg, who is biracial herself, explores the experience of being biracial from the perspective of several dozen people she interviewed, who ranged in age from their twenties to their sixties. But I've been especially intrigued by the appearance of a new magazine created by and for transracial youth called Mavin. Mavin's founding editor, Matt Kelley, was a college freshman at Wesleyan University when he started the magazine. Mavin is reaching growing numbers of college campuses where a core group of mixed-raced young adults are coming of age and making their presence and their numbers known. The Fall 1999 issue focused on transracial adoption.
A sophisticated, glossy publication, Mavin is full of ads touting new youth fashions. Its models epitomize the so-called "exotic" look that is popular in mainstream magazines. But many of the people depicted are, in fact, the very people Mavin is reaching out to: people whose racial background is mixed.
Mavin is far more than a magazine. As the product of youth who grew up with the World Wide Web, it also has an active Web site, which serves as a forum in which mixed-race youth can debate with their counterparts on issues that reflect their particular worldview.
I believe there is a common thread to the rise of groups such as Also-Known-As, the creation of Mavin, the proliferation of literature on multicultural families, and the development of so much material related to multiculturalism : a special pride that comes from being part of a new type of family within American society.
As Carrie Kent, who has adopted two African-American children, observes:
Sometimes I feel that adoptive families are very lucky. As we work to learn about and celebrate each other's similarities and differences, we grow as a family. Instead of simply spending all our time looking backward to one set of ancestors to explain who we are in the present, we have multiple layers to explore. And what we create in the end is, I think, wonderfully unique. It's not better than a genetically related family, but it is equally wonderful and special.
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School board Chairwoman Sue Aldrich said Bradley has worked with the district since 2010 and has had his contract renewed in the past.
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School board member Lowell VanDerlip said the board held two executive sessions this year in which it discussed the issue. He said the board used a "personnel" exemption in the state open meetings law to keep the discussions private. Boards can talk privately about certain aspects of employees, such as their contracts, evaluations and disciplinary or dismissal actions.
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Neil Rosen, 20, pleaded guilty in Bennington criminal court to three misdemeanor charges, one count of embezzlement and two counts of retail theft.
The sentence for the charges was deferred for three years. If he avoids further legal troubles and follows the terms of his probation, Rosens criminal record will be expunged.
In an affidavit, Officer Christopher Mason of the Manchester Police Department said Rosen had been an employee at Ralph Lauren Polo over the summer. On July 12, Rosen admitted in a statement that he had stolen from the store on five occasions, taking $40 in cash and about $600 in merchandise.
The $40 was returned in July and restitution has been made to the store.
During Rosens court hearing Monday, Bennington County States Attorney Erica Marthage said one reason the state had reached a plea arrangement with Rosen was that his parents had taken the matter pretty seriously and imposed other consequences on their son, including canceling his planned trip to Florence.
David Silver, the attorney who represented Rosen, said Rosens parents were very distraught and disappointed in him and ashamed of his conduct and said Rosen felt the same way. Rosen added he was very ashamed.
Judge Nancy Corsones told Rosen he had lost something valuable when he lost the chance to travel abroad at a young age.
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- No. 22 ALABAMA VS. University of Tennessee at Chattanooga
- Monday, December 3, 2001
- Coleman Coliseum (15,316 capacity), Tuscaloosa, Alabama
- 8:00 p.m. CT
TICKETS:Available; $12 adults; youth ticket $6 for age 15 & under Uof A Home Game Tickets: UofA Ticket Office (205) 348-BAMA or SouthTix 800-240-2300. Season Tickets can be ordered on www.rolltide.com
Television:Fox SportsNet (with Bob Rathbun and Charles Davis)
RADIO:Crimson Tide Sports Network with Eli Gold and Tom Roberts, WVUA 90.7 FM (UofA Campus Station) for home campus games only
INTERNET:Live audio of CTSN's radio broadcast is available on the internet on www.rolltide.com. Tide basketball information is available there as well as on www.markgottfried.com and www.crimsontradition.com.
No. 22 AP/No. 22 ESPN/USA Today ALABAMA (5-1 OVERALL, 0-0 SEC):
- F- 35 Erwin Dudley 6-8, 260, JR, Uniontown 12.7 ppg/7.5 rpg
- C- 42 Kenny Walker 6-9, 230, JR, Jacksonville, Fla. 9.8 ppg/5.3 rpg/2.0 bpg
- G- 21 Rod Grizzard 6-8, 200, JR, Birmingham 16.0 ppg/6.7 rpg
- G- 14 Terrance Meade 6-2, 190, JR, Scottsboro 11.3 ppg/3.0 rpg/2.2 apg
- G- 25 Mo Williams 6-1, 185, FR, Jackson, Miss. 10.0 ppg/3.7 rpg/4.8 apg
- Head Coach: Mark Gottfried (Alabama, 1987)
UT Chattanooga Mocs (2-3 going into a December 1 game at Kent State)
- F-03 Neil Ashby 6-8, 200, SR, Atlanta, Ga.
- F-40 Nick Benson 6-5, 210, JR, St. Louis, MO./Moberly JC
- C-44 Dusty Pullian 6-8, 215, SR, Benton Harbor, Mich./Southeastern CC
- G-20 Clyde McCully 6-0, 173, SR, Beaumont, Texas/Northern Iowa CC
- G-21 Toot Young 6-3, 175, SR, Norfolk, Va./Bervard JC
- HeadCoach: Henry Dickerson (Morris Harvey, 1973)
THE HEAD COACHESALABAMA: Mark Gottfried; 128-67 (.656%) in 7 (6 complete) seasons overall, 60-43 (.583%) in 4th season at Alabama; 2 NCAA appearances (1997 & 1998) at Murray State; 3 NIT appearances (1996 at MSU, 1999 & 2001 at UA); Assistant for UCLA's 1995 NCAA Champions team; 3 NCAA Sweet 16 appearances as a UA player 1985-86-87.
UTC: Henry Dickerson; 58-62 (.483%) in 5 (4 complete) seasons at UTC & overall; Dickerson was a Mocs assistant for 8 seasons before becoming head coach, during which UTC won six Southern Conference regular season and four conference tournament championships & made four NCAA tournament appearances, including the 1997 Sweet 16.
- CTSN'S "Hey Coach" radio show will air from 7-7:30 p.m. CT on Monday, Dec. 3 and will be followed by the UTC game
- Game will be televised on Fox SportsNet
- Former Tide player Neil Ashby (1998 & 1999, two seasons) plays for the Mocs
- Alabama leads the series, which dates back to 1914, 13 wins to 3 by UTC. Last meeting was in 2000 in Huntsville
- Game is 3rd of three straight home games the Tide has played. It travels to Anaheim, Calif., for the John Wooden Classic where it will play Mark Gottfried's old UCLA team (he was an assistant coach there 8 seasons) on December 8
Fox SportsNet Will Broadcast the GameThe Alabama-Chattanooga game will mark the first of five scheduled appearances by the Crimson Tide on Fox SportsNet. Bob Rathbun will provide the play-by-play and Charles Davis the color commentary. Andy Pollack is the producer.
Fox SportsNet will also carry the December 8 UCLA game in the John R. Wooden Classic (tipoff at 6 p.m. CT/4 p.m. PT), the December 27 Notre Dame game in the Sugar Bowl Classic (7 p.m. CT), the January 5 LSU game in Tuscaloosa (6 p.m. CT), and the January 12 Auburn game in Auburn (4 p.m. CT).
Series Is an Old OneThe first time Alabama and UTC ever played one another was in 1914 in Chattanooga. It was Alabama's second season of fielding a men's basketball team. Alabama won 33-23. Ten years later the two teams met again for a second game which was also played in Chattanooga. This time the Mocs won 31-27.
Alabama leads the overall series 13 wins to three by UTC. UTC's wins came in 1924, 1937 and 1994. In fact, the 1994 win marked the last visit UTC made to Tuscaloosa. Alabama and Chattanooga played one another in December 1999, but that game took place in Huntsville's Van Braun Civic Center. Alabama won 75-51.
Mocs Leading Scorer is Former Tide PlayerNeil Ashby, UTC's 6-foot-8, 200 pound senior forward, is the Mocs leading scorer. He's also a former Alabama player. Ashby played one season for David Hobbs his true freshman year and then played a season for Mark Gottfried in Gottfried's first season in 1998-99. Ashby transferred from Alabama following that year and had to sit out the 1999-2000 season as a transfer.
The Atlanta native came off the bench at Alabama, playing in 45 games (out of a possible 62). He averaged 2.2 points and 1.0 rebounds his sophomore year and 2.6 points and 1.8 rebounds as a freshman. He was nicknamed "Grasshopper" by the Alabama coaches and players his freshman year because of his leaping ability.
The only players on the current Tide team who were playing for Alabama and were Ashby's teammates are junior guard Travis Stinnett and senior forward Solomon Davis. (Stinnett was declared a medical redshirt after playing in four games that 1998-99 season and Davis was a freshman redshirt that year. Three members of Alabama's coaching staff were here then, including head coach Mark Gottfried, assistant coach Philip Pearson and director of basketball operations Darron Boatright.
Mocs Feature a Local Player on RosterComing back home to play Alabama in his hometown is UTC's 6-foot-5 junior guard Tim Parker. Parker was born in Tuscaloosa on March 26, 1980 to Tim and Cathy Parker. His father, Tim, played at Alabama from 1962-65 on Hayden Riley's Tide teams.
Parker prepped at The Baylor School in Chattanooga, however, averaging 20.9 points and 10.3 rebounds there his senior year.
Tim's dad, Tim, is a Tuscaloosa native who prepped at then Tuscaloosa High School. He was coached by some familiar faces who frequent Alabama's courtside, Marion "Pete" Pearson who has a radio sports talk show on Tuscaloosa's WTBC and Billy Henderson, who has been a referee at Alabama's football practices.
Old Friends/High School Rivals ReuniteSitting on opposite benches Monday night will be two old friends from Jacksonville, Fla., Alabama junior center Kenny Walker and UTC senior forward Michael Townsend. The two are hometown friends. In high school their teams played against one another, Walker at Wolfson and Townsend at Jean Ribault.
Third of Three At Home for BamaAlabama is playing its third of three straight home games played within seven days time. The string started on Monday, November 26 with Alabama's 76-61 win against Utah. It continued on Thursday, November 29 with a 90-61 win against McNeese State and concludes with Monday night's December 3 date with Chattanooga.
Alabama will then hit the road for one game in the John R. Wooden Classic. Alabama plays UCLA in Anaheim on Saturday, December 8 at 6 p.m. CT/4 p.m.PT. (Arizona and Purdue play the event's opening game). That trip will be a nostalgic one for Tide head coach Mark Gottfried who was an assistant at UCLA for eight years, including its 1995 National Champions season. He was an assistant along with Steve Lavin who is now UCLA's head coach. Gottfried is also a friend of the man the event is named after, John Wooden, and visited with Coach Wooden as recently as this past August.
Tide's Offense is ProducingAfter six games, the Crimson Tide is averaging 84.2 points a game, topping at 107 in the season opener against Mississippi Valley State. Alabama has outscored its opponents by an average of 20 points (opponents are averaging 64.2 on the Tide).
Two Tide Players Among SEC's Top 20 ScorersHelping fuel Alabama's offense are two junior starters who both rank among the SEC's top 20 in scoring. Rod Grizzard (16.0) ranks among the top 10 in the league and Erwin Dudley ranks among the second ten (12.7).
Dudley's the SEC's Most Accurate ShooterGoing into the weekend's round of SEC games, Erwin Dudley is the SEC leader in field goal percentage. In six games the Uniontown native has made 35 of his 56 attempted shots from the field for 62.5 percent.
Walker Bats Down CowboysTide junior Kenny Walker set a career best-and pulled together the SEC's second best numbers so far this season-when he blocked five shots against McNeese State on Thursday night (November 29). (Auburn's Kyle Davis blocked six against High Point on November 16).
Four Bama Players In Double DigitsFour Alabama players, including a freshman, are averaging in double digits in scoring and a fifth is just two/tenths of a point away from joining them.
Rod Grizzard leads the Tide at 16.0 points a game. Erwin Dudley is averaging 12.7, Terrance Meade 11.3 and freshman Mo Williams 10.0. Kenny Walker is close on the trail-he's averaging 9.8 points a game.
Dudley Leads Tide Under the BoardsErwin Dudley continues to lead the Crimson Tide in rebounding, averaging 7.5 boards a game. Dudley has 640 career rebounds now (9.0 average), a total that moves him into 20th place now in Alabama's all-time top 20 career rebounders. Next on his move up list is Derrick McKey's spot at 19th with 643.
Tide at No. 22 in Both Nov. 29-Dec. 2 PollsWith a week that included a win against then No. 12/14 Memphis last Wednesday in the Guardians Classic 3rd place (of 16 teams) game and a seven point loss to No. 5 Missouri, Alabama remains at No. 22 in both the Associated Press and the ESPN/USA Today Coaches Polls.
Bama's opponents still dot the list of the nation's Top 25 teams, including (listed 1st with AP ranking then ESPN) No. 3/No. 11 UCLA, No. 5/No. 5 Missouri, No. 7/No. 6 Florida, No. 10/No. 14 Kentucky, No. 12/No. 19 Memphis, and No. 25 Temple.
Several more Tide opponents are receiving Top 25 votes, including Ole Miss, Tennessee, Notre Dame, Arkansas, Mississippi State, Auburn and Utah.
Bama In Nov. 30 League Stats, TEAM:
- Scoring: 2nd
- Scoring Margin: 3rd
- Field Goal Percentage: 3rd
- 3-Pt Field Goal Percentage Defense: 3rd
- Turnover Margin: 3rd
- Assist/Turnover Ratio: 3rd (1.24)
- Turnover Margin: 3rd
- Defensive Rebounds: 3rd
- Field Goal Percentage Defense: 4th
- Blocked Shots: 4th
Bama In Nov. 30 League Stats, INDIVIDUAL:
- Scoring: Rod Grizzard 8th, Erwin Dudley 19th
- Rebounding: Erwin Dudley 10th, Rod Grizzard 13th
- Field Goal %: Erwin Dudley 1st, Rod Grizzard 9th
- Assists: Mo Williams 5th
- 3-Pt FG%: Earnest Shelton 5th
- Blocked Shots: Kenny Walker 4th, Rod Grizzard 8th
- Assist/Turnover Ratio: at 5th Antoine Pettway 4.67;
- At 9th Terrance Meade 3.25
- Offensive rebounds: Kenny Walker 5th
- Defensive rebounds: 8th Rod Grizzard & Erwin Dudley (tied)


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DeGale vs Mohoumadi Bout on October 13th in Bluewater
By Phil D. Jay
A rejuvenated James DeGale (12-1, 9KOs) returns to the ring on October 13th at Glow in Bluewater, Kent to put his European belt on the line against Hadillah Mohoumadi (13-2-1, 9KOs) in his 14th professional outing.
The 26 year-old, who has now dropped his 'Chunky' alias, fights the French super-middleweight champion in his maiden bout after signing a long-term deal with Tyson Fury promoter Mick Hennessy last week.
DeGale's departure from Frank Warren was much publicized in the media, but the Olympic gold medallist is now concentrating on becoming a world champion in the next twelve months, beginning with Mohoumadi.
Mohoumadi, 32, lost on points to DeGale's last opponent Cristian Sanavia, who the Londoner took out with relative ease in Denmark and should be a another W on the record for the former Lonsdale belt holder.
Lenny Daws, middleweight prospect Chris Eubank Jnr, Phill Fury and unbeaten super-bantamweight Kid Galahad provide back-up for DeGale's return, with the bill to be televised on Channel 5.
Phil D. Jay covers boxing for worldboxingnews.net
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It's pretty sick, when you look at it in light of what flour does to a person... Manipulative for sure. Tug at the ol' heart strings a bit, put in a fat little dough boy (I've always wanted to take a rolling pin to that SOB), and add kids = Positive association for peasant chow at overinflated prices.
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There was Pastries and Baking going on before the Doughboy, the problem is the cultural change....
Bread, after all, is just a product of early agriculture. The Romans ate "Tostum" for making use out of the dried out Bread , and raising a Toast to help handle the acidity of Wine.
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Asherlee10 4 years ago#11
I feel like I read this topic 9 times a day.
That may be so, but there are new users to this board every day. Some people do not spend 7 days a week here. So, if you've read this topic so many times already, then why are you here? Just to be a jerk?
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SpiduxxudipS 4 years ago#12
Sephiroth9704 posted...
I feel like I read this topic 9 times a day.
Sounds like you need to spend less time on GFaqs then.
This is a message board about a game. If anyone needs to shut up, it's the person getting their knickers in a twist when someone asks questions about the game or peoples opinion about the game.
Not everyone is a regular here, some people get the game, play the game, and come here to ask a few questions. It's called being on an active board. Learn to Gamefaqs. Don't wanna read the same topic? DON'T CLICK ON IT, DUR DUR DUR DUR HUR HUR.
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Rogue Mutt 4 years ago#13
I like the loadout concept, but I'm not crazy about the way ordinance drops are set-up. Players that are doing well shouldn't really be given extra assistance to continue doing well. Power weapons should still only spawn on the maps.
Spider5800 4 years ago#14
I prefer the new way. The old way basically encouraged camping power weapons and forced fights to usually occur at specific points on the map. The new system encourages more roaming around the maps in my experience so far.
Some people have complained that the new system just encourages teams to take the best defensive point and rack up kills to get drops, but I've yet to see that be used effectively. Drops seem to take too long and are too random for that to be as effective as team camping sniper/rockets/shotgun was in previous games.
And loadouts are a godsend, I hated spawning with AR's on giant maps in the old games.
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JonnyBoyFF 4 years ago#15
I'm not sure if I like it better or worse, but I welcome the change of pace this time around.
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builder111 4 years ago#16
crappy players that's who. if you can't control the map just because the enemy are getting some drops you were never any good in the first place.
lol @ people who need the same layout everytime to be good
darren19822000 4 years ago#17
i did like them on the map but it wouldnt be so bad if the ordinance drops werent random. esspecially the personal ones. i seem to get more needler/naed/speed boost than anything. i think they should set the personal ones so that the first one you get the same as the rest of the lobbies first one. that way you dont have 1 team with rockets/snipers while the other gets needlers/ scattershots.
the only people who LOVE the new way is the ones that never got the power weapons before.
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I see no reason we can't have both loadouts and map spawns.
weapons do still spawn on the map. It's not only ordinances.
There is an initial weapon layout on the maps, and they respawn so often, but they are random after the start (Which means no more camping for rockets, because they could just turn out to be grenades). And the arrows over them tell you that a weapon is there (or was there when it goes away).
I think it is better this way.
patkelly929 4 years ago#19
I like the ordinance drops better.
As much as I liked the power weapons being on the map, it promoted camping the rocket launcher or sniper rifle. Despite it being a beacon for action, it felt like the action was only happening there.
With the loadouts and drops, players can be anywhere on the map, or players will hold positions on a map because they have the tactical advantage, not a rocket launcher is going to spawn soon.
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Chill, LeBron: You've Already Lost MJ Debate
Oh, how they worship him now, all those amnesiacs and frontrunners who once called him a traitor, a choker, a big-shot-phobic wannabe, a LeBum.
Here's LeBron James, owner of two championship rings (and a wedding ring), now able to joke that he's en route to ``not 11, not 12, not 13, not 14 ?'' NBA titles. ``Until I win that, I'm not satisfied,'' he cracks, laughing. It seems a lighthearted way to launch his latest season with the Miami Heat, a casual acknowledgment that maybe he was a bit foolhardy in forecasting six or seven rings when he brought his skills to South Beach in 2010.
Except LeBron doesn't stop at that, as he should. No, he decides to go THERE again, as he has several times, to the place he'll never reach because he already has lost the opportunity.
``I want to be the greatest of all time,'' James declares on Media Day. ``It's that simple, I'm far away from it, but I see the light.''
That makes it two GOAT proclamations in the same calendar year, including this salvo during All-Star Weekend, per Si.com: ``I want to be the greatest of all time. As my talent continued to grow, as I continued to know about the game, appreciate the game, continued to get better, I felt like I had the drive, first of all, the passion, the commitment to the game to place myself as the greatest of all time, the best of all time, however you want to categorize it. I don?t do it to say that I?m better than this guy or that guy. I do it for my own inspiration. I inspire myself. When I go out on the floor, I want to be the best of all time. That?s how I help myself each and every night.''
First, let's clean up some b.s here. You don't repeatedly voice Greatest of All Time aspirations if you don't want to be remembered as ``better than this guy or that guy.'' And what exactly is the light he's seeing? The so-called LeBron vs. Michael Jordan debate went dark for James in the summer of 2011, when he broke down in the NBA Finals against the Dallas Mavericks, looking timid and afraid to take over when his team needed his immensity. That was James' second Finals loss, and while he since has tied his ledger at 2-2 with remarkable performances, it's useless to compare him to the stone-cold legend who undeniably is the Greatest of All Time, a man who never once looked remotely feeble in his biggest moments, even as he was vomiting between jumpshots in Utah with the flu or a reaction to bad Park City pizza.
Do not forget the code to this easy puzzle: 6-6-6. It's not the sign of the devil, but it is the reason James has as much chance in this argument as he does of growing an Afro. Jordan played in six NBA Finals. In those series, he won six championships and six MVP awards. We could take it a step further from perfection and say every Chicago Bulls teammate improved because of his association with Jordan -- Scottie Pippen, for one, might have been traded four times and wound up in jail if not for Jordan, who helped point him to the Hall of Fame. James? I'm still searching for an All-Star and U.S. Olympic team cornerstone named Chris Bosh, but he has regressed in Miami and sometimes zeroed out in playoff moments alongside James.
I'm not going to continue making points. There is no debate.
Yet that isn't stopping people from actually discussing the notion of LBJ as GOAT. They view it as a distinct possibility, not a folly. Oh, how those people ridicule Jordan now, all the amnesiacs and frontrunners who used to call him Basketball Jesus. There he is in Charlotte, suffering the indignity of owning a team that has been among the NBA's Worst of All Time. There he is in the hinterlands, reduced to hiring a new no-name coach every year -- Steve Clifford? -- while trying to wake up a nondescript franchise. There he is in semi-obscurity as a pitchman, still doing those underwear ads -- did someone bind and gag him at 21 and sign him to a lifetime Hanes deal? -- yet less visible as a global basketball ambassador than ringless rabble-rouser Charles Barkley.
``It's very, very frustrating,'' Jordan said of his newfound hoops infamy.
Consequently, for the first time, some actually are identifying him first as one of the worst owners and talent evaluators in sports instead of what his Wikipedia page should say: the most complete champion and badass competitor the game has known.
I have come today to correct this absurd discrepancy, this farcical role reversal. Never, ever can LeBron James be the Greatest of All Time. The advertising world can create an illusion of James as The New Jordan, but the concept was established as flawed a while ago and remains permanently irreversible. That's because of 6-6-6. No one else in team sports -- not Babe Ruth or Mickey Mantle, not Joe Montana or Tom Brady, not Magic Johnson or Larry Bird, not Wayne Gretzky or the world soccer gods -- can say the same.
LeBron? Not until the last two Finals did he overcome a revealing run of futility in clutch moments, a taint that can't be forgotten if he insists on invoking his GOAT ambitions. Not long ago, he played fourth quarters in defining games as if the ball had cooties, fleeing the challenges that Jordan lived to embrace. Michael ALWAYS wanted the ball when it mattered.
I was pleased to see Jordan, though in the context of a promotional video for a ``NBA2K14'' video, say he would have whipped James in a game of one-on-one if both were in their prime. He mentioned James in a group of greats he'd have liked to challenge mano a mano -- Kobe Bryant, Dwyane Wade, Carmelo Anthony, Julius Erving, Jerry West, Elgin Baylor -- and said he'd beat every one but Bryant, with an insult attached. ``I don't think I would lose, other than to Kobe Bryant, because he steals all of my moves,'' he said.
James seemed surprised Jordan would go THERE. ``MJ said that?'' he told the media. ``I've thought about the matchup, but no one will ever see it and it's not going to happen. It's good for people to talk about.''
So I will then. LeBron, at 6-8 and at least 255 pounds, wouldn't be able to stay with Jordan as he pranced around the court, driving to the hole and stopping and popping for fadeaways. Sure, James could back him down in the post, but Jordan's defensive quickness would lead to ball slaps and turnovers. Jordan would win the one-on-one game, 21-16. Jordan says players today don't realize how physical the league was back in his day. ``You go in with the understanding of, `I'm going to get hit. I'm going to pay the price,' '' he said. ``But that's part of the game. I'm not going to be afraid to go inside. Those are the types of things that these kids don't even have a clue of how we had to grow up and how we had to play.''
In the big picture, Bryant is the one who should be compared to Jordan, not LeBron, largely because Kobe has won five championships. The first three were with Shaquille O'Neal, granted, but the last two were with supporting casts similar to LeBron's in Miami, if not weaker. Bryant, who has reverence for Jordan while also wanting to top his six titles, tweeted a response to the stolen moves comment: ``Domino effect. I stole some of his .. this generation stole some of mine.''
Jordan agrees Kobe has accomplished more than James, telling Yahoo! Sports earlier this year, ``If you had to pick between the two, that would be a tough choice. But five (titles) beats (two) every time I look at it, and not that he won?t get five -- he may get more than that -- but five is bigger than (two).''
No matter how many titles he wins in Miami -- and I suspect he'll fall short this season with a fading Wade and Bosh -- James won't shake the way he quit on Cleveland, skirting the more daunting and noble task of bringing titles to his battered, luckless home region. Also don't forget how he quit on the Cavaliers during his final 2010 playoff series against Boston, only fueling suspicions he had decided to escape town long before and, thus, may have lost focus -- or, worse, laid down -- in that infamous Game 5.
I mention these memories to emphasize Jordan never has quit. He may have taken a hiatus for a painful minor-league baseball whirl in 1994, but the detour was understandable as part of the grieving process after his father's murder. He retired a second time after the sixth championship in 1998, but only because the Bulls were prematurely dismantled by management people fed by delusions that they still could win titles without him (15 seasons and running on that lie).
It would have been easy for Jordan to demand a trade when he was being assaulted in the playoffs by the Bad Boy Pistons, or when ownership refused to renegotiate his eight-year, $24-million deal while the likes of Johnson, Bird and Patrick Ewing were having obsolete contracts ripped up by appreciative bosses. But Jordan never said a word. And when his contract finally expired and he briefly considered signing with the New York Knicks, he felt too loyal to leave the Bulls, prompting chairman Jerry Reinsdorf to say he hoped he wouldn't regret the mega-investment of $30-milion-plus annual contracts. Yes, Reinsdorf really said that. Three more titles later, management let three Hall of Famers -- Jordan, Pippen and Phil Jackson -- walk out the door, bringing in the likes of Tim Floyd and Pete Myers. Jordan didn't quit then, either. He returned in 2001, announcing in a gymnasium parking lot on Chicago's west side -- to me and Associated Press columnist Jim Litke -- that he would play for the (gag, cough, vomit) Washington Wizards.
``I'm doing it on my terms,'' he once told me.
He wouldn't say it publicly at the time, but Jordan still seethed because he wasn't given a piece of Bulls ownership and felt Reinsdorf and Jerry Krause had won the power struggle over the two superstars and head coach who made the six-pack happen. To Jordan, a statue outside the United Center wasn't enough. If he'd built the franchise and the building, he wanted to be rewarded with a prominent position in the organization. Some might say Reinsdorf was wise in keeping Jordan away from the decision-making process, knowing Michael's track record in his management career. But other than lucking out with Derrick Rose in the lottery, just what the hell have the Bulls accomplished since the Jordan era? They won with each other in the '90s ... and have struggled without each other since.
If ever Jordan might wish to quit, it would be now. He has been an abject failure as an owner and basketball executive, from the day in Washington he chose bust Kwame Brown with the overall No. 1 pick. After the Wizards fired him and sent him into a few years of drifting, he bought the Bobcats (soon to be Hornets), only to let the pro franchise in basketball-mad North Carolina slip into laughable irrelevance. It's mind-boggling that the foremost symbol of sporting success on Planet Earth has devolved into a loser. Colossal failure torments Jordan so much that he stopped sitting courtside in Charlotte, so he can scream and pound his fist in a private suite.
But please know this: Even if Jordan lost all of his remaining games as an owner, it should have no bearing on the reality that his playing career -- and resulting marketability as an international pitchman -- is far beyond the stratospheric reach of James or anyone else. In Cleveland, James couldn't win the big trophy with a decent roster. In Chicago, Jordan turned good casts into champions six times. Everyone who came in professional contact with him should be assessed a Jordan Tax, from Reinsdorf to a one-time drifter named Steve Kerr, who became a Finals hero because Jordan passed him the rock, allowing him to cash in with five rings and a big career as an executive and network TV analyst.
Simply, Jordan's legend is too great to let his record as an owner and executive mar it.
``I don't anticipate getting out of this business. My competitive nature is I want to succeed. It's always been said that when I can't find a way to do anything, I will find a way to do it,'' he told the AP last year, trying to sell himself in the absence of noticeable hope.
``I didn't get in the business to try to get out. Granted, I want to turn this thing around as fast as possible, but this is obviously a process. I'm committed to it and I want to pass it down to my family members or my kids. I want this to always be in Charlotte.''
So stop any and all arguments. It doesn't matter if LeBron James wins not two, not three, not four, not five, not six, not seven ... but eight titles, which won't happen.
Michael Jordan is the Greatest of All Time.
Don?t broach the subject again, LeBron.


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"Don't want to judge that too quickly. I'm not a doctor," Tomlin said. "But obviously he's being evaluated by the nature in which he went down and the way he was taken off. You can assume that was significant."
Tomlin was, in fact, monitoring the drill in which Embernate was injured. The coach was even peppering Embernate with praise during the one-on-one drills.
"I like 51!" Tomlin shouted after Embernate defeated rookie defensive lineman Cordian Hagans.
"In-cog-NEE-to!" Tomlin said in comparing Embernate to Miami Dolphins guard Richie Incognito.
Embernate drew similar praise from Tomlin after beating Hagans a second time. But during the third rep against Hagans, Embernate's knee buckled and he went to the ground with a painful shout. The training staff tended to Embernate and he was carted off the practice field.
"He was kicking butt, taking names," said fellow rookie lineman Joe Madsen. "He's a big Samoan, a good kid who just got in with the twos."
The Steelers' highest-paid undrafted rookie free agent, Embernate, a 6-4, 304-pounder out of San Diego State, was listed as a second-teamer on the Steelers' depth chart, but hadn't played with the second-team line until Thursday, when he played left guard.
"Nik was coming along really well," said first-team left guard Ramon Foster. "He's a small-school guy but he was fighting like a big-time college guy. Hopefully whatever happened today wasn't significant and he'll be back."
A few reps before Embernate went down in the one-on-one drills, outside linebacker Jason Worilds came up limping after beating Marcus Gilbert. Worilds was held out of the remainder of practice.
Tomlin called it "a great toe injury. Should be some minor discomfort, maybe limit him a day or two."
It might also allow more reps for rookie first-round pick Jarvis Jones, who yesterday batted a quick pass by Ben Roethlisberger high into the air and then intercepted it.
* After the interception, Roethlisberger turned red hot and put on his best passing performance of the week, highlighted by a 30-yard timing pass to Antonio Brown.
* For the second consecutive day, Bruce Gradkowski threw a long touchdown pass, this one a 40-yarder into the corner of the end zone to Derek Moye.
* The Steelers opened the first scrimmage session Thursday with rookie Markus Wheaton as the third receiver in the slot. The third cornerback – with Cortez Allen still injured and replaced by William Gay – was Curtis Brown.
* Backup safety Robert Golden may have had the hit of the day when he lit up Jonathan Dwyer during the full-tackle, run-game scrimmage.
* Cameron Heyward performed well during one-on-ones. In his three reps, the defensive end ran by Gilbert, was blatantly held by Guy Whimper, and then ripped past Whimper to go 3-0.
* Al Woods dominated the struggling Mike Golic Jr. in three consecutive one-on-one reps.


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The library has cut about $71,000 from its 2013 budget, which has forced them to cut back on everything, including their hours and programming. Director Joanna Bailey said that there has never been a better time than now to volunteer at the library.
"There are thing that the librarians have worked their best to try and attend to, but because of the staffing cuts, they have been back-burnered," said Bailey. "And so we're now in the process of looking to our community to help."
Volunteers can sign up for a wide variety of projects, such as cleaning up picture books or creating artistic window displays. There isn't a minimum amount of time that volunteers have to commit to, but you must be at least 16-years-old to sign up. There are two volunteer trainings coming up. One is Saturday November 10th and the second is on Thursday, November 15th. Both are at 2:00 p.m. in the Neill Public Library.


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Q I've had a frozen shoulder for quite a while now, and noth-ing seems to be work-ing. I had an initial injection, and that relieved the pain for four months, but a second one has had no effect. I don't want to rely on paracetamol for the
rest of my life. What else can I do?-G.C., via e-mail
A Frozen shoulder (adhesive capsulitis) is a chronic debilitating condition that can make even the most simple of tasks, such as putting your hand in your pocket or scratching your back, almost impossible. It affects around 2 per cent of the population, and is more common in women aged 40 to 70 years, and in up to 20 per cent of diabetics. Usually, the non-dominant shoulder is affected, so a right-handed person is more likely to suffer from a left shoulder freezing.
But no one knows why it happens or what the outcome will be. There's usually no apparent reason; in only a few cases is it due to trauma, breast reconstruction or shoulder surgery. In some cases, scar tissue forms in the thin tissue that covers and protects the shoulder joint, causing this 'cap-sule' to thicken and, thus, restrict the shoulder's ability to move normally.
There may be a genetic association. In one study involving twins, one twin is up to three times more likely to suffer a frozen shoulder or tennis elbow if the other twin has been a victim (Rheuma-tology, 2005; 42: 739-42).
A frozen shoulder is characterized by a dull ache in the shoulder or upper-arm area, with stiffness or restriction of movement. There are three phases:
- In the first, 'freezing' stage, the patient experiences a slow onset of pain and, as the pain worsens, any movement becomes more difficult. This phase can last from six weeks to nine months.
- The 'frozen' phase is marked by a slow improvement in pain, although stiffness remains unchanged. This stage lasts four to nine months.
- The final, 'thawing' phase lasts from five to 26 months, during which time, mobility slowly returns.
By this reckoning, a frozen shoulder can persist for three years or more if it's not treated, but it can often be resolved within a year with professional help.
There is a range of options open to the sufferer. Pain reduction and relief is the primary concern and for this, a GP will prescribe either an NSAID (a non-steroidal, anti-inflammatory drug) such as aspirin, or ibuprofen, or a stan-dard painkiller such as paracetamol or codeine. While these can be effective, you should be aware of their side-effects, which include stomach ache, heartburn and stomach ulcers.
You may also be referred to a physiotherapist, who will recommend a regular regime of exercises to stop the shoulder from stiffening. One study found that exercise was partic-ularly beneficial if it was combined with acupuncture. Those who underwent exercise and acupuncture fared better than those who only had exercise as therapy (Hong Kong Med J, 2001; 7: 381-9).
The physiotherapist may also try some pain-relieving methods, such as heat or cold therapies, or TENS (transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulation). Although TENS is regularly used for pain relief, a review of 20 studies on low back pain found that it worked in just 12 of the trials (Cochrane Library, 1997; issue 1).
Short-term pain relief can also be achieved with a steroid or nerve-block injection. The steroid injection can reduce inflammation around the shoulder area, although it is usually effective for only a few weeks before the pain returns. However, in one meta-analysis, a corticosteroid injection provided pain relief for up to nine months, and was more effective than an NSAID (Br J Gen Pract, 2005; 55: 224-8).
In more serious and protracted cases, the specialist may recommend surgery. The most common is manip-ulation under anesthesia (MUA). This is a procedure that can be fraught with difficulty; instances of dislocation, fracture, nerve palsy and rotator-cuff tears have all been reported.
However, in one study of 38 pro-cedures, most patients reported pain relief after surgery, although 8 per cent required a second manipulation before they felt any positive effects. Overall, most patients reported continuing improvement over time, and there were no serious injuries other than one case of a torn rotator cuff (Md Med J, 1999; 48: 7-11).
Another possible surgical procedure is arthroscopic capsular release, a 'keyhole' operation where the tight capsule of the joint is released with a special probe. In a study involving 30 patients, the procedure was found to be generally helpful, especially if complemented by manipulation. However, the researchers recommend that patients wishing to undergo this surgery be carefully assessed and screened beforehand (Knee Surg Sports Traumatol Arthrosc, 2006; e-publication Oct 10).
Of the manipulative therapies, the Bowen technique has been found to be effective, even for long-term sufferers. In one small study of 20 patients, the technique helped to relieve pain and improved mobility in every case (Complement Ther Med, 2001; 9: 208-15). A similar result was achieved in a double-blind placebo-controlled study carried out by the European College of Bowen Studies with 100 sufferers, half of whom were given placebo therapy. After six weeks, the Bowen-treated group reported improvement in mobility and reduction in pain (http://www.thebowentechnique.com/content/frozen.htm).
Another treatment, a variation of standard osteopathy known as the 'Neil-Asher technique'-specially designed to treat frozen shoulder-was also very effective when compared with standard physiotherapy and a placebo treatment. After six sessions, those in the Neil-Asher group reported significant improvement in movement and flexibility, and a general reduction in pain (Br J Rheumatol, 2003; 42: 146).


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Macy's Inc. (M), the second-largest U.S. department-store chain, posted third-quarter profit that topped analysts' estimates while its forecast for the end of the year signaled it may use heavy discounts to draw holiday shoppers.
Net income in the period ended Oct. 27 rose 4.3 percent to $145 million, or 36 cents a share, from $139 million, or 32 cents, a year earlier, Cincinnati-based Macy's said today in a statement. The average of 16 analysts' estimates compiled by Bloomberg was 30 cents. Profit per share in the current quarter will be $1.94 to $1.99, trailing the $2.05 average estimate.
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Chief Executive Officer Terry Lundgren has benefited from exclusive Madonna, Sean John and Tommy Hilfiger products that helped boost third-quarter revenue 3.8 percent to $6.08 billion. The retailer also used promotions such as one-day sales to drive customer traffic and may employ more of those in the competitive holiday shopping season.
"The fourth quarter is always a promotional quarter, and I am sure they want to participate in that promotional activity, and they want to beat analyst estimates," Liz Dunn, an analyst with Macquarie Group Ltd. in New York, said today in an interview. She rates the shares outperform, the equivalent of a buy, and said the third-quarter profit was "really impressive."
The shares rose 0.8 percent to $41.70 at 8:35 a.m. in New York. Macy's had climbed 29 percent this year before today.
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Macy's third-quarter sales topped analysts' average estimate of $6.05 billion when the company reported the results last week. The retailer also last week increased its forecast for sales at stores open at least a year to 4 percent in the second half of 2012 from an earlier projection of 3.7 percent. The company said today it will stop reporting monthly sales beginning in its fiscal 2013.
The retailer's gross margin, or the portion of sales left after subtracting the cost of goods sold, widened to 39.6 percent from 39.4 percent a year earlier. Selling, general and administrative expenses fell to 34.2 percent of sales from 34.4 percent.


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Chairman of Odebrecht Óleo E Gás, Chairman of Odebrecht Realizações Imobiliárias, Chairman of Foz Do Brasil, Chairman of Eth Bioenergia S.A. and Chairman of Braskem S.A., Odebrecht S.A.
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Mr. Marcelo Bahia Odebrecht serve as Chief Executive Officer and President of Odebrecht S.A., since 2008 until November 2015. Mr. Odebrecht served as Chief Executive Officer of Engineering & Construction at Odebrecht S.A. Mr. Odebrecht served as President of Construtora Norberto Odebrecht Sa since 2002 and served as its Chief Executive Officer. Mr. Odebrecht served as a Vice President of the Brazilian Association of Infra-Structure and Primary Industry ABDIB since 2005. ...
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