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When I was in middle school, I had a Vision Gator skateboard named after Mark "Gator" Rogowski, a superstar skater in the '80s. The last time I was on that board, I was holding on to the bumper of my friend's car when I hit a patch of Seventh Avenue sand and bailed so hard I broke my left collarbone and scraped the shit out of the back of my head. A few years later, Gator hit his own rough spot: In 1991, he freaked out, killed his ex-girlfriend, stuffed her in a surfboard bag and buried her in the desert.
Although I gave up skateboarding after my crash, I still subscribed to Thrasher and watched Lance Mountain and Steve Caballero in the "Bones Brigade" videos. And when I stepped into Shag Lounge (830 15th Street) last Thursday, I immediately flashed back to those days. It was the second of Shag's new Thursday-night Panty Raid parties, and skate videos were showing on two flat screens while Jesus Franco's early-'70s soft-core flick Vampyros Lesbos played on the screen in the back by the small dance floor and DJ.
While the vampire lesbian film was a nice touch (I'd seen it a few times before, and it has a killer soundtrack), these nights are aimed at the skaters. Every Thursday, the club will bring in reps from various skate and snowboard brands and stores to give away stuff — reportedly $25,000 worth of stuff over the next few months. On October 16, for example, folks from Boulder's Satellite Board Shop and Installation Shoe Gallery will give shoes to the people who create the best custom shoes. The following week, 303 Boards will hand out limited-edition boards.
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As I looked around Shag, which was about three-quarters full, I noticed a few guys from Jared Jacang Maher's May cover story on the Wet Boys, Denver's infamous skater crew. Another guy walked by wearing a Skate and Destroy sweatshirt. DJ MADA was spinning some choice cuts while a few people danced in back.
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Talk:Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse
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Note: The history of this page has been interrupted due to change of title. The old history can be found here. AucamanTalk 10:51, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
- 1 Botero
- 2 Rumsfeld okayed abuses says former U.S. general
- 3 International law
- 4 The two "Further reading" sections should be combined into one
- 5 New Section needed?
- 6 Joe Ryan Merger
- 7 More on Talk: Joe Ryan
- 8 How often were tortures applied?=
- 9 Zimbardo theories
- 10 clarification?
- 11 Remove the Pictures
- 12 Prison pictures
- 13 Page Title
- 14 Involvement of civil contractors
- 15 File:Abu Ghraib 39.jpg Nominated for Deletion
- 16 Rape allegations
- 17 Captain Carolyn Wood
- 18 Satar Jabar not the hooded prisoner on box
- 19 Rumsfeld
- 20 Uncensored
- 21 Photo deletion
- 22 Torture memos
- 23 Sources for sexual violence against men
- 24 Raping children
- 25 Pictures
- 26 External links modified
- 27 Pictures acceptable for general audience?
- 28 External links modified
- 29 External links modified
- 30 External links modified
- 31 External links modified
- 32 External links modified
- 33 Who is the victim on the first picture?
I deleted the section on Botero that was right after 60 Minutes II and Seymore Hersh and listed him at the bottom of the article under "Depections in Media". He is not relavant to, nor notable enough to warrant inclusion in that section of the article, which deals with how the scandal broke in the media. The images seared into people's minds forever come not from an artist, but instead from sadistic prison guards with a cheap digital camera.
- This is a mistake to delete. Botero is an important artist of our times, and this series of paintings is a powerful statement, similar to the painting of Guernica. How people react to an event, including artistic reactions, is part of the story. So please, put this section back in. Dale Gerdemann 13:08, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
- This is not the football player Joaquín Botero, the top google search, but rather Fernando Botero a Columbian/French artist who rose to prominance by painting art about the Abu Graib torture. Unlike Pablo who had already significantly participated and added to the late modernist project decades before producing the Spanish Republican government-funded propaganda Gurenica, which was all the more supported by the subsequent war against fascism, it appears that Botero (the artist) had his fifteen minutes of fame solely for capturing the zeitgeist of certain wealthy chattering classes. His other work seems to be glorifying rich drug lords. Hardly an important artist, but certainly an active one, and eventually he may produce something of note.184.108.40.206 (talk) 04:26, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
- Botero was internationally renowned more than a decade before Abu Ghraib, regardless of your opinion of his art. His sculpture was featured in New York City in Central Park, among many other prominent places. His work on Abu Ghraib is part of the international reaction.Parkwells (talk) 22:10, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
Rumsfeld okayed abuses says former U.S. general[edit]
I take issue with the "rebuttal" argument in this section by Karpinskis being a liar. I find it represents a view, rather then fact. The line "Karpinski has been exposed for lying to the media" is not citated. Who exposed them, and is it a fact? If not, who states or believes she is a liar?
The statement that "she was later demoted to the rank of colonel for her negligence in this case" seems unsubstantiated. In fact the Janis Karpinski article specifically states that "on May 5, 2005, President Bush approved Karpinski's demotion to colonel from the rank of brigadier general. Her demotion was not officially related to the abuse at Abu Ghraib prison".
So I suggest either a major rewrite, with perhaps less viewpoints and more citated facts, of this argument or complete removal of it. Please find holes in my argument :) mceder (u t c) 14:29, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, the article needs a major rewrite, although I have no hope that anything would change. The "rebuttal" may or may not be accurate, but that isn't the core problem anyway, which is that Karpinski's words were deceptive to begin with, and probably intended to take advantage of the public ignorance of what really happened at Abu Ghraib in order to deflect some of the blame that she may deserve.
- If it were up to me I'd remove that entire section. The caption is deceptive in slyly suggesting Rumsfeld approved the abuse (as in the pictures) that people commonly think of when they hear of Abu Ghraib. Further, Karpinski's statement suggesting that Rumsfeld intentionally violated the Geneva Convention is only an opinion. It isn't supported by that source that these techniques were authorized for use on those who qualified for POW status.
- -- Randy2063 16:09, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
I finally removed the baseless lying accusation against BG Karpinksy. This whole scandal just irritates the crap out of me. The most heinous abuses were done at the hands of Military Intelligence interrogators, CIA agents, and civilian contractors. The stuff these MPs did was very minor in comparison and was likely even orchestrated by the MI people. I was a MP and had to deal with the "secret squirrels" (MI and OGAs) from time to time and never failed to get a belly full of them. They like to run around in civilian clothes or uniforms without rank insignia and give orders with the insinuation that they rank much higher than they actually do. The only officer who stood before a court-martial for this whole thing was a Civil Affairs officer with questionable authority and access regarding the actual interrogation operations. The entire investigation into Abu Graib has been a whitewash from the beginning and has focused on Military Police soldiers and officers who had no authority or responsibility for policy and procedure inside the prison. Their own officers were denied access and yet they are to be held accountable? To characterize Karpinksy's remarks to the St Petersburg Times as lying and misleading doesn't tell the whole story. She wasn't even allowed into the cell blocks in Abu Graib where MI was doing their business. She didn't see what was going on because she was not allowed to. Those two paragraphs are just a character smear.--SEWalk (talk) 11:28, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
International law[edit]
This section is unsouced and appears to be quite questionable:
The United States has ratified the UN's Convention Against Torture and the Third and Fourth Geneva Conventions. However, the Third and Fourth Geneva conventions both state in Article 2: "The High Contracting Parties shall furthermore be bound by the Convention in relation to the said Power, if the latter accepts and applies the provisions thereof". Since Iraq did not apply the protections of the Geneva Conventions to American POW's throughout Gulf War I (e.g. abuse of 17 American POW's at the now-infamous Abu Ghraib, by the Iraq Intelligence Service) and Gulf War II (e.g. the well-known story of Jessica Lynch's unit), it may be argued that Iraq lost its protections under these particular documents (but not others) long before the USA even took possession of the Abu Ghraib prison. The Bush Administration, however, takes the position that, in the words of Alberto R. Gonzales, counsel to the President: "Both the United States and Iraq are parties to the Geneva Conventions. The United States recognizes that these treaties are binding in the war for the liberation of Iraq." ("The Rule of Law and the Rules of War", New York Times (op-ed piece), May 15, 2004). However, the Administration claims that prisoners taken in Afghanistan did not qualify as prisoners of war under international law.
Surely POWs are afforded the rights in the Geneva Conventions regardless of past violations by the country they are serving? This seems nonesensical. Also, what do prisoners from Afghanistan have to do with this case? Pexise (talk) 22:07, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
The two "Further reading" sections should be combined into one[edit]
I figured out how to take care of this myself, so I no longer need to request that someone else do so. Ed Moise (talk) 17:20, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
New Section needed?[edit]
Time for new section? There should be enough information around now to include President Obama's giving immunity to the torturers and the UN response. Obama wont prosecute as the torturers "were only following orders" with the UN dismissing this as illegal while other sources claim that the CIA is not covered by the immunity anyway as it's agents are legally exempt from punishment if they refuse to follow orders. In fact the United States Uniform Code of Military Justice specifically addresses the question of torture by stating that following orders is not a legal defense so how Obama got around that I have no idea. Wayne (talk) 15:06, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- It's not really relevant here. Obama's position on the alleged "torture" was about CIA interrogation methods on a small handful of high value detainees. It doesn't apply to what happened at Abu Ghraib. Note that the soldiers currently serving time for the abuse aren't being released.
- Neither the UCMJ nor the military interrogation manual were ever meant to apply to the CIA, which is not part of the military. That's the way it's always been, and the manual was designed with the understanding that extreme cases would be handled by someone else. Obama's presidential order currently does limit the CIA to that manual, but even he allows for the attorney general to grant exceptions when the situation requires it.
- -- Randy2063 (talk) 16:31, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- What about mentioning something about the civilian contractors that were used as interregators (From CACI and Titan Corp.) that never faced prosecution? The CACI & Titan Corp. articles have some info regarding this, maybe we could provide a quick summarized copy here or at least a link? I just think it's noteworthy that save for the few CIA "high value" detainee interogations, most were conducted by third-party civilian personell. Quote from CACI article:
U.S. Army "found that contractors were involved in 36 percent of the Abu Ghraib proven incidents and identified 6 employees as individually culpable", although none have faced prosecution unlike US military personal.
- What about mentioning something about the civilian contractors that were used as interregators (From CACI and Titan Corp.) that never faced prosecution? The CACI & Titan Corp. articles have some info regarding this, maybe we could provide a quick summarized copy here or at least a link? I just think it's noteworthy that save for the few CIA "high value" detainee interogations, most were conducted by third-party civilian personell. Quote from CACI article:
Joe Ryan Merger[edit]
I support this merger. The Joe Ryan article is too small be stand one it's own. --KMFDM FAN (talk) 23:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)--KMFDM FAN (talk) 23:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- I'd support this merger in the short term since the Joe Ryan article is next to useless on its own and the only information on it is relating to the Abu Ghraib. However, considering how this article has already grown to a large size, maybe we should consider creating a "People involved with Abu Ghraib" article or something to that exntent, and only keeping the most notable people summaries here. --MiloKral (talk) 15:57, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
This needs to be a separate article along the lines of Joe Ryan Abu Ghraib diaries. The diaries constituted a separate news event covered by the Independent and the Washington Post, among others. That article should then be referenced within the main article. BYT (talk) 20:37, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
More on Talk: Joe Ryan[edit]
I've added substantial amounts to this Joe Ryan article from the complete (?) diary, which can be found here. Please take a look. I believe it merits a stand-alone article. BYT (talk) 22:26, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
How often were tortures applied?=[edit]
I've read the article and I don't see ąny information on how often were torture applied. In other words. how many prisoners are estimated to suffer no beatings, sexual assaults, deterring or extreme humiliation?????? 188.8.131.52 (talk) 23:54, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
- Well, does that information exist? Why not go and get some sources? WhisperToMe (talk) 02:48, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Zimbardo theories[edit]
I note that you quoted the Lucifer Effect by Phil Zimbardo. Do you think that a section referring to his theories on situation evil would go beyond the encycopedic mandate? Propbably would. Masterly article. ADAM —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 01:28, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Apologies for asking what may seem a picky question, but I'm coming to this article for the first time and am genuinely unclear about a small point. What's meant by "where" in the following sentence from the lead section?
"As revealed by the 2004 Taguba Report, a criminal investigation by the United States Army Criminal Investigation Command had already been underway since 2003 where many soldiers of the 320th Military Police Battalion had been charged under the Uniform Code of Military Justice with prisoner abuse."
What is the antecedent of "where"? I don't see a place named. Would I be understanding the sentence correctly if I read it as "a criminal investigation … had already been underway since 2003, in the course of which many soldiers … had been charged … ?" With which referring back to the investigation? Cynwolfe (talk) 16:18, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Remove the Pictures[edit]
The pictures should be removed from this page; they are inflammatory and highly offensive to muslims. The descriptions of these acts are more than adequate to convey what went on at Abu Ghraib. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 15:26, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
- It is difficult to truly convey, in words alone, what happened. Even the photos are not able to truly convey the shocking treatment of these prisoners. Imagine the screams, the pain, the smells, the blood.... The photographs are also evidence that makes denial more difficult. Ghostofnemo (talk) 02:05, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
No, the pictures should absolutely not be removed, regardless of who you think they are offensive to. They are completely in line with Wikipedia's image use policies. They add important information to the article, and are very notable in and of themselves. -- Jrtayloriv (talk) 02:21, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
You go to hell, 18.104.22.168. And good job mods, for letting his comment stay up there that long. Amateurs. First, the pictures are necessary because this needs to be understood as best as possible for the evil that it is. Second, you are no conservative or Republican, you are a white-supremacy scumbag. Third, there should be two Abu Gharaib prisoner abuse articles, one on what the US forces did and one on what Saddam Hussein's regime did in this prison prior to Operation Iraqi Freedom. Don't try to make it seem like we're the only people who ever committed a war crime in Iraq. Fourth, Saddam ordered his torturing, our government and military did not. They were all sadistic privates who committed these crimes. Fifth, how dare you use Media Matters as a source against Rush Limbaugh. Media Matters is not a reliable source for anything, they called General Patreaus "General Betray-Us", among other ridiculous libel they have said. I can understand Michael Savage saying something crazy like that, but Limbaugh would never defend torture. Finally, our standard practice of interrogation is not torture, and that includes waterboarding, you liberals. This, Abu Gharaib, is torture, and we cleaned it up. So anyone who makes comments like 220.127.116.11 can go to hell. 18.104.22.168 (talk) 02:35, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Technically he did "Betray-us" when he leaked classified CIA material to his mistress.126.96.36.199 (talk) 02:42, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
I'd like to add, simply: "I made the visit deliberately, in order to be in position to give first-hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops a tendency to charge these allegations merely to 'propaganda'." --General Dwight D. Eisenhower, on visiting the German concentration camps. The pictures need to be there to mitigate the deniers and those who feel that mere "horseplay" occurred. --Sstrader (talk) 22:46, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Prison pictures[edit]
I support the posting of pictures of the correctional facilities that the perpetrators attended. The prisons were direct consequences of their behavior, and prisons became a big part of their lives (not everybody has standalone articles!) WhisperToMe (talk) 02:47, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Page Title[edit]
Any chance of adjusting the page title so that it reflects the fact that this isn't about the sum total of prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib, merely the small proportion of it perpetrated by Americans?
Neither this page, nor the page on the prison itself seems to acknowledge the reality of the place's past (and probable future) as a torture facility and seems almost anti-American by (inadvertant) omission. 126.96.36.199 (talk) 14:53, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Involvement of civil contractors[edit]
The left wing news paper magazine "profil" (Nr 22/2011, page 84 ) in my home country Austria is running an article about Abu Graib. The US-psychologist Philip Zimbaro is giving an interview. In this article the beginning of the torture is related to pressure coming from the CIA. But I can remember that in the time the case was cooking up in the world press that their where reports about civil contractors which had actually trained the US- soldiers in torture techniques but nothing is here'd of this people again so far. Does anyone remember about this, ore does anyone know the name of this private company?
Second I think it should be mentioned in the article that there has been and is a lot of information about torture true the Iraqi government and their organizations. I think it is unbalanced and unfair not to say this.
Gassner7 (talk) 15:08, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- There are several problems with that. If you mean Philip Zimbardo, he was not directly involved with the CIA or Abu Ghraib. He only talked about its supposed effects afterwards. He has no personal experience on the subject. But I'm not surprised he'd appear on a left-wing paper that probably claims to oppose torture.
- The CIA was not part of the normal interrogation of prisoners at Abu Ghraib. Note this section: Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse#Death_of_Manadel_al-Jamadi. The CIA brought al-Jamadi in, and attempted to interrogate him separately. They apparently did this with other prisoners, but they were also separate issues -- and they were the CIA's own prisoners, not the Army's prisoners. The only Army-CIA link was that it happened at an Army facility. The Army does not consult with the CIA over how to interrogate Army prisoners. They hire their own civilian contractors when outside consultation is wanted.
- -- Randy2063 (talk) 15:49, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
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Rape allegations[edit]
Currently the article attributes the claim that Abu Ghraib inmates were raped to Wikipedia's voice. That is not an accurate representation of the reliable sources used to reference that claim, however. For example, the lead says (paraphrase),
- Beginning in 2004, human rights violations including rape came to public attention.
And in the "Treatment of prisoners" section the article states,
- An Iraqi teenage boy was raped....
The claim in the lead is sourced to Salon.com, which is problematic in itself as the article should really be relying on a more solid source than Salon. But even supposing the source is valid, it never itself makes the claim that anyone was raped. It quotes the Daily Telegraph, which quoted a retired army Major General, who said, "These pictures show torture, abuse, rape and every indecency."
The second claim is sourced to The Guardian. Again, that's not the kind of publication Wikipedia ought to be relying on for such a serious claim as rape. But even the Guardian reporter never actually reports that a rape took place. He quotes an Abu Ghraib detainee recounting his version of what happened at the prison.
- Unless the rape claim in the lead can be sourced to a reliable source on the scale of New York Times, BBC and so on, it should be taken out or at least be in-text attributed to Maj. Gen. (Ret.) Taguba.
- The subsection "Raping of prisoners" should be renamed "Alleged raping of prisoners."
- Unless the rape claim in the "Raping of prisoners" section can be sourced to a reliable source on the scale of New York Times, BBC and so on, it should be taken out or at least be in-text attributed to detainee Kasim Hilas.—Biosketch (talk) 22:32, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
- Good points.
- I suspect that General Taguba was merely speaking off the cuff when he said there were pictures of rape, and simply misspoke. I'm not aware of any official report showing this, including the Taguba Report itself.
- The only allegations seem to be that by the civilian contractor raping a boy, a soldier forcibly kissing a female detainee, and the claims made by Huda Alazawi in The Guardian.
- The problem with that third one isn't so much that it's The Guardian as much as that this woman isn't necessarily all that credible. She could be an opportunist. I don't think she's in any of these reports unless the second and third allegations are really the same event. I'm not aware of the press doing a follow-up.
- -- Randy2063 (talk) 03:53, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but you cannot have looked very deeply into this. First, the Guardian and Saloon have been accepted as generally reliable sources at WP:RS/N and all over Wikipedia. Secondly, they are not alone in their reporting. See the Washington Post here, the Village Voice here. Please also note that forced sodomization meets most modern definitions of rape, including the WHO definition, and are are explicitly mentioned in the Tabuga report and by the BBC here. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 07:19, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
- The section title is "Raping of prisoners" -- plural, and not alleged rape. While forced sodomization may meet the legal definition, it's not the most accurate for the one case we're sure about.
- I wouldn't argue that The Guardian isn't RS for Wikipedia purposes. We do need to wonder, though, when another source quotes The Guardian, whether it's just one story mis-told over and over again.
- I have three concerns. One is if we're taking early reports (similar to your Village Voice link) and mixing them in with better materials. Second, is that too much is based on that one line from General Taguba when his report doesn't mention it. My third concern is that the section isn't clear about what really happened.
- The Taguba Report is here. The only sexual allegations I can find are two of the three I've mentioned above. If you can find more then please point them out.
- -- Randy2063 (talk) 12:45, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
- There is one more sexual allegation, section 1.5.6.k, "A male MP guard having sex with a female detainee." Whether a prisoner can negotiate consent considering the balance of power is not addressed.184.108.40.206 (talk) 14:43, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
- BTW: Your your BBC and Washington Post links seem to agree with me.
- -- Randy2063 (talk) 12:58, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
- That's right. BBC and WashPost also don't state as a fact that inmates were raped at Abu Ghraib. They merely quote other sources as saying so. Our article, on the other hand, states as a fact that there was rape. So far the only source that does actually say anyone was raped is the Village Voice. But therein lies our problem. The overwhelming majority of sources attribute the rape claim to other parties, like the victims and their attorneys or Taguba. It's policy to represent reality "in proportion to the prominence of each viewpoint." The perspective of the Village Voice has somehow become the position of Wikipedia – and it's not even cited until much later in the article. There's also another problem with the Voice. The article ends with an editorializing comment, "the Bush administration has refused to release photos of Iraqi women forced at gunpoint to bare their breasts—no doubt to spare Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld further embarrassment." That's not objective journalism, and I'm going to challenge our use of the Voice at all in this article, since it draws no clear distinction between objective reporting and biased editorializing.—Biosketch (talk) 13:48, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
- You're right that the Village Voice piece is garbage. We can find a better source regardless whether or not an actual rape took place.
- I'd rather find sources that attribute something to the Taguba Report rather than Taguba himself. Better still would be to find something that cites the Fay Report, and even better would be to cite a trial, as the Taguba Report was pretty early in the investigation process.
- User 184.108.40.206 is also correct. I had missed the MP guard having sex with a female detainee. I don't know if this was the rape incident Taguba was talking about but the Army does consider sex with a detainee to be coercive regardless whether or not the woman thought it was consensual. (And for the record, a consensual act is not completely out of the question, considering that there were also alleged prostitutes in custody at the time.)
- I haven't located this incident in the Fay Report (here). I don't know if that means it was thrown out by that time, or clarified some other way. But there are others.
- The full list is in table form on page 130 (using the PDF's page numbers, not the ones written on the pages themselves). There is a column for Nudity/Humiliation and another for sexual assault. You can search the PDF for the actual incidents for a full story.
- I haven't been able to square the Taguba report's "sex with a female detainee" incident with what's in the Fay Report. "Incident #2" is the closest I could find but it was not actual rape.
- And for those who might complain that I'm wandering into primary sources, I'm only trying to figure out what's what so that we can understand what the secondary sources are really referring to.
- -- Randy2063 (talk) 19:28, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
- In that "Incident #2," where a female detainee was forcibly kissed and had her shirt removed(pdf pg 170), the Fay Report found that the allegations were credible enough to warrant further investigation and should proceed as the soldiers involved were not punished for the sexual assault. An ACLU FOIA request only turned up one Art. 15[1] for one of the soldiers, dated 3/31/2004. Either these further investigations were still ongoing when the FOIA request was made or the military did not follow up on the Fay Report recommendation.
- -- Joshuaism (talk) 20:26, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Captain Carolyn Wood[edit]
The statement "Captain Carolyn Wood was head of the 519th Military Intelligence Battalion from Fort Bragg" is incorrect. CPT Wood may have been a company commander, but a lieutenant colonel is normally the commander of a battalion, and CPT Wood was not nor has she ever been the commander of a battalion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vietnam volunteer (talk • contribs) 03:42, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
Satar Jabar not the hooded prisoner on box[edit]
I have found virtually no citations that the person in the photo has the name "Satar Jabar." A 2004 Newsweek article is the first place I've seen it used:
- Prisoner Satar Jabar's photograph, showing him hooded and wired up, has become familiar to Iraqis, who derisively call it "the Statue of Liberty." Far from being a dangerous insurgent, however, Jabar, 24, was an accused car thief.
Two Toronto Star articles do:
- Sticking it to Bush at Whitney exhibit; Politics almost trumps the work: Goddard, Peter. Toronto Star [Toronto, Ont] 04 Mar 2006: 2.
- So now what do we do with prisoners?; Since 9/11, questions about torture and who's doing it have been deftly sidestepped and hotly debated. Recent events have dragged Canada deeper into the fray: Shephard, Michelle. Toronto Star [Toronto, Ont] 27 Jan 2008: 8.
Both articles are behind a pay wall, I found them with a ProQuest newspaper database search. The first just says the person is Satar Jabar. The second uses the photo that was published in The New Yorker with this caption:
- THE NEW YORKER Undated photo shows Satar Jabar standing atop a box at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
The problem is that The New Yorker doesn't have this as the current caption: http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2004/05/03/slideshow_040503#slide=1. The current caption reads: "A hooded and wired Iraqi prisoner at Abu Ghraib prison who reportedly was told that he would be electrocuted if he fell off a box."
I am therefore deleting the name from the caption and will propose for deletion the article named "Satar Jabar" which redirects to this page.
One side note, a man claimed he was the person in the photo, but the editor's note retracts the claim. It mentions that:
- The Times and other newspapers would have shown that in 2004 military investigators named another man as the one on the box, raising suspicions about Mr. Qaissi's claim.
But the name "Satar Jabar" appears in The Times twice, but not in regard to the photograph. Mnnlaxer (talk) 19:07, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
It's well known, and established in Rumsfeld's book Known and Unknown: A Memoir, that Rumsfeld had wanted to resign after the abuse became publicly known. However, Bush said 'no' and ordered him to stay. He stayed, but he regretted that decision. I don't think these facts are clear in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 22:01, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
- just because that is the way it is representat in his memoir - does not mean it is fact - it only means that that is his version of events... memoirs and auto-biographies often tent to trivialize/play down things 184.108.40.206 (talk) 11:58, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Per WP: Bold, I've switched the File:AG-10.jpg image to uncensored equivalent: File:AG-10B.JPG. To address any objections ahead of time:
- "The image should be censored": No, WP:NOTCENSORED. This case is the same in spirit as "a vulgarity or obscenity should either appear in its full form or not at all" WP:PROFANE (referring to text).
- "The uncensored image is not necessary": Fine, then argue that the image in any form is not necessary to the article and try to remove it entirely. You will probably lose that argument.
- "This is the partially blurred/censored version as reproduced widely in the mass media.": This is an acceptable rationale for including the file File:AG-10.jpg in Wikimedia Commons, but not for preferring it in a factual Wikipedia article. Additionally, Wikipedia is blissfully not bound by the same censorship restrictions that the mass media are.
126.96.36.199 (talk) 02:56, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
TPOEMES, I've reverted your re-censoring edit of this article. Please read WP:NOTCENSORED and see my rationale above. Specifically regarding your edit message "child protection is not censorship": yes, it absolutely is censorship, but more precisely it is a rationale for censorship. In some cases, "child protection" may be a legitimate rationale, but not on Wikipedia, and certainly not on this article. Sorry, but for a page with images and descriptions of horrific torture, abuse, and death, removing a small grainy picture of a penis is not "protecting" anyone. 18.104.22.168 (talk) 06:28, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
- Removed as the individual who's private parts you want to show has not given his permission to do so. Have a look at Wikipedia:Sexual content and Commons:Photographs of identifiable people. If you disagree with that than please take it to the Administrator noticeboard. Thank you. Danceneck3 (talk) 06:40, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
- Commons:Photographs_of_identifiable_people pertains to identifiable people and "... do not apply to photographs where the subject is unidentifiable." The individual in question is depicted in a low quality photo with a bag over his head, and thus in not identifiable.
- Wikipedia:Sexual content is an essay. As the template states, "This essay contains the advice or opinions of one or more Wikipedia contributors. Essays may represent widespread norms or minority viewpoints. Consider these views with discretion. Essays are not Wikipedia policies."
- Wikipedia:Sexual content explicitly makes reference to WP:NOTCENSORED, which is an official policy, and which forms the basis of my previously-stated rationale to use the non-censored image. From WP:NOTCENSORED: "Discussion of potentially objectionable content should not focus on its offensiveness but on whether it is appropriate to include in a given article. Beyond that, "being objectionable" is generally not sufficient grounds for removal or inclusion of content."
- Accordingly, if you find the "sexual" content to be objectionable, then argue for the entire removal of the image, not its censorship. As also previously stated, in an article and a picture showing graphic abuse, a blurry penis is hardly the most 'objectionable' element (though admittedly this has no bearing on the decision to keep/remove the image).
- I will not be bringing this to the Administrator noticeboard yet, as it's a matter of black-letter Wikipedia policy. I don't need to waste the time of Administrators to support my position, I have official statements of Wikipedia policy. If others chose to ignore those policies, then we can bring the Administrators in.126.96.36.199 (talk) 02:02, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
Photo deletion[edit]
Hi. I'd like to suggest the deletion of the photo depicting the soldier pointing to an inmate's penis, or at least the blurring of his and the other inmates' genitals (as has happened in other photos). My starting point is that, as a Christian, I think that people (publishers included) should treat others as they would want to be treated themselves.
The photo is clearly humiliating and degrading to a victim of crime who may be still alive, and while his face is obscured, he will know that he was abused in this way. Showing the photo is likely to be distressful to him and could cause mental or emotional harm; we cannot second guess that. Wikipedia can easily by viewed by children, for whom this explicit photo is clearly inappropriate.
I know that, judged on copyright and free speech grounds, there is no legal restriction on displaying the photo. However, I think that there are more important moral factors (explained above) about how people should be treated when they are distressed, as he was at this moment, and how we respect victims of crime, especialy sexual offences. Looking forward to your suggestions and thanks for your time. Gecko177 (talk) 10:33, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose per WP:NOTCENSORED. I do not believe that the photo is humiliating and degrading to the victim. The torture and unspeakable treatment that this man endured was. 22.214.171.124 (talk) 03:27, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
Torture memos[edit]
From 2004 to 2008, more material was finally revealed about the Torture Memos, legal opinions prepared by the Office of Legal Counsel, Dept of Justice - specifically three signed by Bybee and drafted by John Yoo in August 2002 and one by Yoo in March 2003, five days before the US started its invasion of Iraq. These were sent to the CIA (first 3) and DOD at the request of their General Counsels, and were essentially the administration's policy on narrowly defining torture, and authorizing what most of the world contends as torture - what they euphemistically called enhanced interrogation techniques. One of the 2002 memos was leaked in 2004; the 2003 memo was not revealed until 2008 during a Senate Committee hearing, but we need to try to place them in relation to this article and abuses at Guantanamo for the account to be complete. Jack Goldsmith, Bybee's replacement as head of OLC, withdrew the memos in 2004 but did not issue replacement opinions before his resignation in July of that year; his successor reaffirmed the memos in Dec. 2004. The NY Times, ACLU and other major sources have sites that list all these memos, and journalists such as Jane Mayer have written about this side of the war, The Dark Side (2008) as her book is entitled. We need to add to this article with more than opinions expressed at the time.Parkwells (talk) 22:21, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
- It's not really all that relevant. The so-called "torture memos" were mostly for what would be legally authorized for the CIA. If you'll notice, Abu Ghraib was under control of the DoD. The limits in those memos weren't relevant to what actually happened.
- Jamadi's pseudo-strappado sounds closest, and it was by a CIA interrogator, but those limits weren't relevant there either.
- It's a clumsy curve-fitting exercise. They found pictures of prisoners being treated badly, and the critics of the U.S.-side of the war decided to shoehorn these memos into it.
- -- Randy2063 (talk) 15:29, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Sources for sexual violence against men[edit]
VolunteerMarek seems to believe that this article should not be in the Category:Violence against men category. I am providing the following sources to dispute his (ridiculous) point of view:
- "The Taguba report also contains a finding that groups of male detainees were forced to masturbate themselves while being photographed and videotaped...The forced masturbation of the victim and the perpetrator is considered to be one of the most common forms of sexual violence experienced by men" Sexual violence against men in armed conflict, S Sivakumaran - European Journal of International Law, 2007
- "The most widely circulated images of gender-based violence from US-occupied Iraq are the notorious Abu Ghraib photos. Released to the public in April 2004, the photos document the sexualized torture of Iraqi men by US soldiers. They include images of prisoners forced to stand naked, masturbate, simulate gay sex, and wear women's clothing. In essence, the torture consisted of an attack on the gender identity of the prisoners. The forcefulness of that attack derived from the misogyny of both the detainees and their torturers. As Dhia al-Shweiri, an Iraqi who was tortured in Abu Ghraib said, "They were trying to humiliate us, break our pride. We are men. It's OK if they beat me. Beatings don't hurt us, it's just a blow. But no one would want their manhood to be shattered. They wanted us to feel as though we were women, the way women feel, and this is the worst insult, to feel like a woman." Promising Democracy, Imposing Theocracy Gender-Based Violence and the US War on Iraq (Part 2) - See more at: http://www.stateofnature.org/?p=6231#sthash.S2tK2IOx.dpuf, By Yifat Susskind
- "In this chapter, I will conduct an intersectional analysis of two cases of sexual violence against men that will be taken as examples of the extremes of media exposures and invisibilities…The second example is the high exposure of sexual torture of Iraqi men in the Baghdad prison Abu Ghraib, in American (and international) media - on TV, in the press and on the Internet." Framing Intersectionality: Debates on a Multi-Faceted Concept in Gender Studies, edited by Professor Helma Lutz, Ms Maria Teresa Herrera Vivar, Ms Linda Supik
- "In the meantime, sexual violence against males continues to flourish in prison and other forms of detention. Men have been abused and sexually humiliated during situations of armed conflict, such as the highly publicized Abu Ghraib scandal in Iraq." Hastings L.J. 605 (2008-2009), Male Rape and Human Rights, by Stemple, Lara
- "Further, sexual violence against men is best understood as part of a continuum of violence against men in society, from bullying of boys, to the rape of men in prison, and the sexual humiliation of Muslim Arab men in Abu Ghraib.", Sexual Violence Against Men and Women in War: A Masculinities Approach, Valorie K. Vojdik, University of Tennessee College of Law, July 2013, Nevada Law Journal, Forthcoming , University of Tennessee Legal Studies Research Paper No. 217
- Now, I'm waiting to hear from him, or anyone else, on why you think that the Abu Ghraib case, which is HIGHLIGHTED by many studies of sexual violence against men in wartime as a massively studied case, does not belong in the Violence against men category. This clearly passes WP:DEFINING by a mile.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 04:07, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
On the other hand, from the article itself we have:
Other photos show interrogators sexually assaulting prisoners with objects including a truncheon, wire and a phosphorescent tube, and a female prisoner having her clothing forcibly removed to expose her breasts
In other alleged cases, female inmates were said to be raped by soldiers.
"a video of a male American soldier in uniform sodomizing a female detainee"
Why exactly should this be singled out as some kind of "violence against men"? It was a horrible phenomenon which was directed at Iraqis of both genders and for political/psychopathic reasons. Obiwankenobi is very clearly pushing a WP:FRINGE POV here.Volunteer Marek (talk) 04:34, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah, me and all of those sources that discuss sexual violence against men, and use Abu Ghraib as a primary example of same. We're all agenda pushers, you caught us!! Marek, you seem to suffer from the same problem another editor had, which is, an event, where bad things happen to men, and bad things happen to women. How can we call that Violence against men! That's not fair!! Let's take two examples of violence: #1 Atomic bomb on hiroshima, #2 Abu Ghraib. Now, for #1, men and women and children died, and while we could call it Violence against men and Violence against women and Violence against children, it doesn't make sense since the bomb itself was indiscriminate, and the target was neither men nor women nor children but rather CIVILIANS. Now, we have case #2, Abu Ghraib - we have OODLES of sources (I just gave 4 above, but a google scholar search on "violence against men" +"Abu Ghraib" will find dozens of hits or more) that use Abu Ghraib as a case example of both prisoner abuse and sexual abuse of men. Were women sexually abused as well? Absolutely. Were both genders targeted? Yes, but in very different ways, and of course the number of male detainees was greater. Does the "Violence against men" category somehow mean that women didn't suffer at all? Absolutely not!! At Srebrenica, one of the most famous examples of Gendercide in the late 20th century, 8000 men were killed, but also hundreds or maybe thousands of women were raped or otherwise abused, and some were even killed. So, we add this to the Category:War rape category as well. A single event can comprise gender-based violence against BOTH men and women. Repeat that, please. A single event can comprise GENDER-BASED VIOLENCE AGAINST BOTH MEN AND WOMEN. Again, adding something to the "Violence against men" category does not mean that there was no violence against women, and if sources can be provided that discuss Abu Ghraib as an example of sexual violence in war against female detainees it should be added at least to the Category:War rape category and possibly Category:Violence against women. Marek, I hope this is the moment when you wake up and realize that YOU are the one pushing a POV. I hope you read those sources above carefully, and reflect - why would all of those reliable sources use Abu Ghraib as a primary EXAMPLE of sexual violence against men, and why does that bug me so much? Isn't that, after all, a good case for inclusion in the category? You seem a bit blinded by your frustration with me.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 04:48, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
- Hello! I am responding to a request for comment posted at WP:WikiProject Human rights. My initial thought is that I do not want to see this issue debated. If this article is to be put into a category, such as "violence against men", then it would be ideal if someone could provide sources which discussed this event as violence against men. I do not think it is worthwhile to have editors here debate how this should be classified; if sources have already classified this, then note those sources and perhaps even list them on the category talk page so that the issue is more fully addressed.
- In this case, it seems that some reliable sources have described this event as violence against men. It may additional also be violence against women. It seems that gender was a focus of the attacks described based on interpretations in the provided sources. Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:51, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Raping children[edit]
@HaroldCD566:, you were correct in your assessment the first time; however, the source does mention children being raped in front of watching women. Therefore, I modified the text to reflect that, I did not simply revert your edit. If you have further disagreements, I'd be happy to take them up here. Vanamonde93 (talk) 02:12, 9 July 2015 (UTC) Thats fine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HaroldCD566 (talk • contribs) 03:05, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- The rape of children may have originated with reporter Seymour Hersh, who has since walked that statement back along with quite a few other claims he's said to audiences (as opposed to what he says in print)-- detailed here at "Hersh apocrypha" and again here as to Iranian nuclear weapons. The credibility of this once great reporter sadly, is now in serious doubt. I think the Guardian also published stories about the rape of children in 2004, so that publication should be the more source cited for this allegation, rather than Hersh.ElijahBosley (talk ☞) 19:48, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
I don't care if you show nudity or you censor them, but make up your mind. Some are censored some are not. Inconsistency is not a strength. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 01:11, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- I don't believe Wikipedia is censoring any images; some of them come to us censored. Could you be a little more specific? Vanamonde93 (talk) 01:46, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
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I don't think some of these photos should be displayed on this page, such as the man covered in human excrement. This page is accessible to all ages and could be distressing to some. They should at least be hidden in a drop down menu that warns viewers of their content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Regn752 (talk • contribs) 13:53, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
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Who is the victim on the first picture?[edit]
The caption of the first picture (man on box wired with electric wire) says "Ali Shallal al-Qaisi", but the picture's description in the summary section of the "File:" page says "Satar Jabar". Additionally, the caption of the same picture on Torture article also says "Satar Jabar". I don't know how to ascertain which one is true... Lionel Elie Mamane (talk) 16:47, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
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Seminars are a powerful expression of Gesa's commitment to financial education. Invite your friends, whether they are members or not, because our seminars are available to all.
Identity Theft: Don't Wait Until It Happens to You
Have you been a victim of recent data breaches or identity theft and aren't sure what steps to take next? Join us for a free seminar presented by Gesa's Compliance Supervisor and learn how to protect your information and recover. Attendees will receive information on the signs of identity theft, data breaches, scams along with recovery and prevention tips.
Sage College Prep Series: Planning Ahead for Your College Career
A college degree can transform your life and lifestyle. Individuals with a college degree generally enjoy greater wealth and security, better health, a closer family, and a stronger community. However, a successful college experience requires planning – planning that begins in high school. In this seminar, Dr. Quadrel will describe how to build a semester-by-semester plan for high school students and families to maximize their opportunities to successfully enroll in the college of their choice.
Keeping Score: Understanding Your Credit
Your credit score is one of the most vital parts of your financial life. Credit scores follow you forever, and will play a huge role in financial situations throughout your life. Many people think that a credit score only matters when needing approval for a loan or credit card, but it goes far beyond that. Learn how your credit score impacts your life, what a FICO score is, what contributes to your FICO score, and how to improve and/or sustain your credit score.
Small Business Success Series: Marketing Trends
Are you struggling to keep up with the rapid world of marketing trends in this day and age? Kerrie Mathis Marvel from Washington State University Tri-Cities is here with her Bachelor degree in marketing and MBA to help you keep up with the times. Come join us to learn more about how to react and profit, identifying your target market personas, and recognizing important emerging trends in marketing. This presentation is in partnership with the Pasco Chamber of Commerce's Small Business Success Series designed for small business owners, courtesy of Gesa Credit Union.
Custom Home Buying
Are you ready to build your dream home, but are unsure about the process? Gesa has partnered with the experts at Pahlisch Homes to help show you how easy custom building can be–from start to finish. Attend this seminar to learn more about site evaluations and lot selection, choosing the perfect floor plan and finding financing that fits your needs. Attend this event in a newly constructed, custom Pahlisch home.
Design Like a Parade Home Winner
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Power of the Purse Series
Making thoughtful and informed decisions about your family's finances is more important than ever. Learn how you can plan for a more secure financial future by attending Gesa's Power of the Purse series. Focusing on women and mothers of all ages and circumstances, Power of the Purse provides resources for utilizing income, setting goals, budgeting, preparing for life's unexpected changes, as well as tips for raising a financially fit family. Each session will feature a presentation from a local expert followed by a question and answer period.
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June 2012
'Last Days of the Arctic' on PBS' 'Global Voices' Starting 10 June + Photos
After 20 years of taking pictures in Iceland, Alaska, and Greenland, increasingly, Ragnar Alexsson finds himself focused on "the human faces of climate change."
Oscar Nominee 'Incident in New Baghdad' on Documentary Channel 8 June
Here Ethan McCord reveals further context for the 2007 incident in Baghdad, meaning his own experience with PTSD, and in particular the official response to his efforts to deal with it.
'Saving Hope' Premieres on NBC 7 June
Apparently, the in-between world is full of lens flares.
All the Pieces Matter: Ranking the Seasons of 'The Wire'
Four years after its conclusion, The Wire continues to top best-of lists across internet sites and print magazines alike. And with each season's unique story arc, each viewer is likely to have favorites. Here is but one humble fan's take on each season of one of the greatest feats in television's history.
'Tales of the Waria' on Global Voices starting 3 June
The film doesn't pretend to resolve the tensions between parents and children, Islam and a transgender experience. It does present them in images that are as compelling as they are revealing.
May 2012
'What Black Men Think' on Documentary Channel 29 May
"It's not just a movie, it's a movement." Janks Morton's What Black Men Think works hard to make good on its claim,
'Jesse Owens' Premieres on PBS on 5/1
"You could go in any direction, fast or slow as you wanted, fighting the wind if you felt like it, just on the strength of your feet and the courage of your lungs." Jesse Owens' description of running is surely poetic.
April 2012
Pau Gasol on 'Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel' 17 April
While the piece is focused on Pau's success now and remains consistently upbeat, it does touch -- very briefly -- on what what can happen when players come to the States from elsewhere.
Doctor Who: A Christmas Surprise
Matt Smith gives us all a Yuletide treat as the 11th Doctor returns for a special that's a little more...well, special than previous seasonal outings.
March 2012
Steven Seagal's 'True Justice' Premieres on Reelz Channel 30 March
If he's not quite the same action star as he was, Seagal remains a dominant screen presence, if only because he surrounds himself with much less compelling figures.


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Black Like Kyra, White Like Meby Judith Vigna
Kyra is Christy's best friend from the youth center. Matt and Julie are Christy's best friends on her block. When Kyra's African-American family moves into Christy's white neighborhood, Christy learns a hard lesson about prejudice.
I Wish Daddy Didn't Drink So Muchby Judith Vigna
A young girl shares her feelings and frustrations about her alcoholic father's behavior.
My Big Sister Takes Drugsby Judith Vigna
When Paul's family moves to a new city, his older sister, Tina, gets involved with a group of kids who drink and take drugs. Watching Tina withdraw from him and from their family is hard on Paul.
Nobody Wants A Nuclear Warby Judith Vigna
When a mother discovers her small daughter and son have built a shelter to protect themselves from nuclear attact, she explains that grownups all over the world are working hard to make the world safe for children to grow up in.<P><P> Jane Addams Children's Book Award Winner
Saying Goodbye to Daddyby Judith Vigna
When Clare's daddy dies in a car accident, Clare experiences a whole range of emotions without even being sure of just what "dying" means. She is afraid when her mother cries, worried that something will also happen to her mother and grandfather, lonely for her father, and angry because Daddy didn't tell her goodbye.
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As the Federal Reserve continues monthly bond purchases, Wall Street firms are concerned that the market is showing signs of a bubble caused by artificially high stock prices. The Dow Jones industrial average and the Standard & Poor's 500 index are setting records, and the Nasdaq composite is up almost 30%. Other analysts, however, say stocks continue to reflect earnings and are still recovering from recessionary drops.
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It seems like a recipe for disaster—a die-hard democrat living with a staunch conservative, amid one of America's most divisive political cycles.More
Short-Range Weather forecast overview for the North Central United States
Heavy rain and thunderstorms will continue to soak portions of Texas into Monday night, further heightening the risk of flooding.
Wintry weather marked the first days of autumn across parts of the Mountain West as snow mixed in with the changing fall foliage.
Extended Weather forecast overview for the North Central United States
Gusty winds will accompany a push of chilly air across the Great Lakes from Sunday night through Tuesday.
Weather forecast overview for the United States
Ash blanketed parts of Costa Rica this week after the Turrialba volcano erupted while flooding overtook parts of the mid-Atlantic and midwestern U.S.
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Roger Tory Peterson, one of the world's greatest naturalists, received every major award for ornithology, natural science, and conservation as well as numerous honorary degrees, medals, and citations, including the Presidential Medal of Freedom. The Peterson Identification System has been called the greatest invention since binoculars. These editions include updated material by Michael O'Brien, Paul Lehman, Bill Thompson III, Michael DiGiorgio, Larry Rosche, and Jeffrey A. Gordon.
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Identifying a bird is just a tap away with the Peterson Field Guide to Birds of Minnesota. Peterson's art, conveying each bird's essence, and the innovative Peterson Identification System, are all at the casual bird watcher's disposal. 400 species are in this visual treasure chest. Arrows point to the key field marks that distinguish each species, and range/i>
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Identifying a bird is just a tap away with the Peterson Field Guide to Birds of Minnesota. Peterson's art, conveying each bird's essence, and the innovative Peterson Identification System, are all at the casual bird watcher's disposal. 400 species are in this visual treasure chest. Arrows point to the key field marks that distinguish each species, and range maps tell users where and when to find the birds. Add in descriptions of habitats, vocalizations, similar species, and an easy-to-use index, and a bird watcher is fully prepared to enjoy the natural wonders of Minnesota.
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Northeast of Horseclan's camp one can find the only permanent body of water in their territory. This curved pond is commonly known as the Old Oxbow and though quite a walk from camp, it is a pleasant place to visit. The vegetation grows thickly here, with sagebrush and gasses growing especially tall around the water's edge. The water here is fresh and relatively deep. Fish are rare, if existing at all, in this pond but frogs and salamanders commonly make this place their home. Prey is especially abundant here with mice, voles, cottontails, gophers, bluebirds, and thrashers all frequently visiting or living near the pond. Even garter snakes slither through the area. A cloud of mosquitoes also populate this place but are tolerable, only flaring up in numbers during floods. A few rare shells and stones line the stone shores that rim the water. Important herbs such as horsetail, feverfew, marigold, yarrow, and watermint grow at the pond's edges while water lilies bloom on the water's surface. Occasionally larger creatures such as bison, elk, white-tailed deer, mule deer, and pronghorn visit for a drink. However predators such as wolves, coyotes, and badger are more likely to ignore the stream and consequently drink at the Old Oxbow more often than the herd animals. Wildflowers bloom brilliant colors during the warmer moons and birdsong fills the air in this peaceful place. But for the cats of Horseclan, the pond not only provides an enjoyable atmosphere. It supports their very survival and without it life on the Upland Meadow would be impossible. Close to the Ashclan and Sandclan borders as well as vulnerable to drought, Horseclan must protect this beautiful resource at all costs. ~ The Old Oxbow, Lilywolf


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All but four Big Ten teams wrapped up spring practice on Saturday, and we're looking at what happened with each squad. If you missed them, check out what we learned from spring games at Ohio State, Penn State and Nebraska.
Wisconsin completed its second spring under coach Gary Andersen with the spring game Saturday at Camp Randall Stadium. The Badgers held a controlled scrimmage for a half and then began a game with several notables sitting out (including quarterback Joel Stave and running backs Melvin Gordon and Corey Clement). The Cardinal team ended up recording a 6-0 win against the White team, thanks to two Jack Russell field goals, before an announced crowd of 8,204.
Check out more coverage of the game here and here and here.
Star of the game: Fullback Austin Ramesh. There weren't many standouts in the game portion of the day, but Ramesh capitalized on his opportunity with both Gordon and Clement out. He recorded 71 yards on 12 carries and added a 4-yard reception for the victorious Cardinal team.
How it went down: The controlled scrimmage featured more offensive highlights than the actual game, as quarterback Tanner McEvoy connected with wideout Kenzel Doe on a 27-yard touchdown pass and both McEvoy and Clement added rushing touchdowns. The defenses dominated the actual game portion, as the White squad recorded only 49 net yards (35 pass, 14 rush) while the Cardinal had just 54 pass yards.
McEvoy completed 4 of 10 pass attempts with no touchdowns or interceptions in the game, but both he and Andersen were pleased with his performance throughout the spring. Andersen said afterward that McEvoy and Stave will receive the bulk of the first-team reps in preseason camp. It doesn't appear Bart Houston is in Wisconsin's future plans, but Houston doesn't plan to transfer.
The offense still needs a lot of work, especially in the pass game, but one takeaway from the spring is that McEvoy is in prime position to push Stave for the starting job.
"He walks up to the huddle, he looks more comfortable," Andersen said of McEvoy. "The football team is more comfortable around him, similar to how they were with Joel walking in and saying, 'Hey, this guy can get it done for us.'"
Defensive notables Saturday included safety Austin Hudson, an early enrollee who capped a solid spring with five tackles. Two young ends, Alec James and Chikwe Obasih, both showed promise during the scrimmage/game. Cornerback Sojourn Shelton had two tackles and two pass breakups.
Wisconsin fans shouldn't draw too much from Saturday given the injuries and other limitations. But this Badger team is much more of a work in progress than last season's senior-laden squad. A critical summer awaits.


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If the bright lights and flashing smiles of the city aren't enough to lure you there, think of these enticing words written by Chuck Palahniuk, "Las Vegas looks the way you'd imagine heaven must look at night." Indeed, a sense of wonder will wash over you when you see the Strip for the first time. Don't be embarrassed to get caught looking wide-eyed at the sparkling buildings and fluorescent flashes all around you—most everyone here is a tourist, but locals still appreciate the magic of Las Vegas in the moonlight. Ensure that you see all the bewitching attractions that call Sin City home by reserving one of the top hotels in Las Vegas.
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Donned in your best desert chic attire, you step out onto the Strip and are awed and overwhelmed by all you see. With so much activity and a plethora of street performers, how will you decide to spend your time in Las Vegas? You begin with the basics—hanging out poolside just steps away from one of many decadent Las Vegas hotel rooms. After a refreshing dip and a leisurely afternoon spent sipping on sinful cocktails, you feel well-rested and ready to take on the city. Admire the opulent casino inside the Bellagio hotel and pass underneath the acclaimed Chihuly art installation inside the venue. Afterward, make your way to Mandalay Bay and gaze at the aquatic predators that call Shark Reef Aquarium home.
As night falls in Sin City, there are an abundance of ways to spend your time. You could head downtown to the pleasant sensory overload of the Fremont Street Experience, or stay in one of the hotels on the Strip to watch as the fountain show begins outside the Bellagio. Of course, those who prefer colorful displays from nature rather than neon lights should venture to Hoover Dam to watch the sun go down over the Colorado River.
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Las Vegas is known for its larger than life magicians and grand acrobatic performances, but the real magic in the city is its top notch eateries. Unlike many other large American cities, Las Vegas doesn't have a notable signature dish, but that's because it excels at making every type of cuisine. Indeed, no matter what type of food you're craving (and no matter the time of day), you'll be able to find what tempts you in Las Vegas. Sin City's steakhouses are especially well-known for creating mouthwatering menus that will tempt carnivores and herbivores alike and are commonly found in one of the many 5-star hotels in Las Vegas. Sumptuous slabs of rib-eye steak and mounds of jumbo crab paired next to a refreshing garden salad or luxurious mound of mashed potatoes will have you loosening your belt with pleasure.
But for those eaters who are serious about sampling all the international cuisines of Vegas, forego expensive restaurants that speak to one nationality, and instead—visit a Vegas buffet. Nearly every casino in town offers buffet options, typically for brunch and dinner, and if you choose wisely, (hint: Wynn Buffet) you'll be greatly rewarded. Accomplished chefs at the top of their culinary game compile the diverse menus that await you. Many buffets include carving stations that will slice up decadent portions of prime rib, as well as fresh seafood displays, including lobster tails, shrimp, crab legs, and innovative sushi rolls. Between the many meaty options, you'll be delighted to discover opulent salad bars that seem to stretch for miles, and internationally influenced cuisine including Japanese, Italian, Indian, and French fare. Your trip to the dessert table will be a test of will power—but how could you resist at least tasting the macarons, raspberry cheesecakes, and sugary crème brûlées that beckon to you?
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Need a break from the flashing lights and sounds of slot machines? Venture 79 miles southeast to visit the stunning Lake Mead National Recreation Area. With the option of enjoying either Lake Mead or Lake Mohave, you'll want to pack a picnic to enjoy your day in the lush desert landscape. Visitors can sit in the shade of trees and watch as rippling waves pass through the water, or choose to get a bit wet instead. There are myriad ways to enjoy the lakes, including boating, fishing, kayaking, canoeing, or just swimming in the sunshine. You might be intimidated to watch locals partaking in watersports on the lake—their form is immaculate—but keep in mind that they're permanent Nevadans and are used to the dry heat and choppy freshwaters.
Day Trips from Las Vegas
If you still feel the call of the desert from inside one of the cheap rooms in Las Vegas, embark on a day trip that will have you appreciating the contrast of the bustling city. Zion National Park is located 160 miles northeast in Springdale, Utah. This iconic destination is an outdoorsman's paradise; choose to slip on your favorite pair of hiking boots and traverse one of the many trails throughout the park, with options for explorers of all levels. Two of the park's most well-known features, the Narrows and Angel's Landing, are perfect for photos and will have you feeling a sense of accomplishment as you complete their respective routes. Carry this winning feeling back with you to fabulous Las Vegas, where your new sense of victory will hopefully reveal itself on the blackjack table as well.
Viva Las Vegas
With a never-ending list of sights to see and things to do in Las Vegas, you suppose Chuck Palahniuk was right in comparing it to heaven. That is, if your version of heaven consists of sumptuous buffets at every turn, legendary live performances, and expertly air-conditioned hotel lobbies. Not to mention an abundance of casino games and pools so beautiful and refreshing that you think the architecture gods themselves must have had a hand in their creation. Find cheap hotels in Las Vegas today on Travelocity; we not only offer a plethora of exquisite Las Vegas hotels, but you'll be in close proximity to all the magic emanating off the Strip. And that's not just luck having its say in things, it's your travel destiny.