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Judge could sanction Samsung for leaking confidential Apple information
0. phoneArena 09 Nov 2013, 16:11 posted on
Judge Paul Grewal, no stranger to this site, is considering placing sanctions on Samsung and its attorneys for leaking confidential Apple information; the judge has issued an order to Samsung to show cause why sanctions should not be issued in this situation. In the order, Grewal writes "sanctions against Samsung and its attorneys are warranted"...
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1. Finalflash (Posts: 3084; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
Sanction their face off I'd say, there is no reason for this to pass unpunished. There is a standard based on trust here that the entire legal system would fail to function without. There is no excuse for this kind of behavior and therefore, this should have serious repercussions.
2. _Bone_ (Posts: 2154; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Only Samsung employees and lawyers have seen it, so Apple should stop itching with a giant B.
6. amats69 (Posts: 1432; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
"Only samsung employees and lawyers have seen it" -thats why it is confidential, and as the article says that information was to be seen ONLY by Samsung's legal team.
11. _Bone_ (Posts: 2154; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Had it leaked? No. Cause only Samsung employees and lawyers have seen it, hence no unwanted party (competition, media) got their hands on it, it's really that simple. Apple won't get much dough off of Sammy this time, mark my words.
16. amats69 (Posts: 1432; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
The time that samsung shows the documents to those unauthorized employees and attorney's, YES it already leaked.why? Because the agreement is only between apple's legal team and samsung's legal team. The fact that those employees and those other attorneys are not part of samsung's legal team then samsung already break the rules...well lets just wait ang see.
19. amats69 (Posts: 1432; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
If you know the meaning of the word "confidential" maybe you understand my point here....
22. _Bone_ (Posts: 2154; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
It's simple logic really. Despite Sammy employes got information when they should've have, which is why we have a lawsuit, said information didn't leak beyond Samsung which was entitled to (limited) access, hence my visionary prediction to expect no substantial fine.
Point of the lawsuit: headlines, "Apple sues Samsung for blah blah", "Samsung fined for blah blah". No actual damage was done, just a little flexing of muscle.
30. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
The burden will be on Sammy to show that no harm to Apple occurred from the 'leak'. If they can show that there was no harm sustained by Apple, AND that they have put in place protections to guarantee that a leak will not occur in the future, they probably will get away with minor sanctions at most. Otherwise, it could cost them. One thing that pisses judges off is litigants ignoring a judicial order.
46. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
It already harmed Nokia.
By the way, "the no harm, no foul" rule does not apply in this situation. This is about the sanctity of the courts. The Samsung attorneys clearly f*cked up or were incompetent or both.
All Samsung does is to p*ss on the American way.
51. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
How did the leaking actually hurt Nokia? Nokia wasn't hurt too bad since they signed a license. You can't make unsubstantiated claims in court. No harm no foul is a well-established principle in litigation.
Sammy has the burden of proof to show no harm, but if it can make the showing, there is ample precedent for the no foul part.
47. amats69 (Posts: 1432; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
Yeah it is a simple logic yet you didnt get it...sorry.
25. stealthd (unregistered)
Samsung was the "unwanted party" here. It was "leaked" to them by their lawyers. When a document says "For Attorneys Only", it's not just a suggestion.
60. pvaraich (Posts: 15; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)
When it goes to the employees, that means it was leaked as that gives Samsung a ground to copy, which has been their path for success. Everytime a company is about to launch a new product, it leaks because the employees pass on that information to outsider for money.
31. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)
Yes, please sanction the hell out of Samsung so that the President can turn around and veto. My bad, he's the iPresident and thence sanctions will stick.
48. medicci37 (Posts: 1276; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)
I don't think this type of info should be confidential
3. tedkord (Posts: 11623; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Nail them.
39. androiphone20 (Posts: 1654; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)
4. dorianb (Posts: 595; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
:facepalm: @ Samsung.
5. Mozarrt (Posts: 301; Member since: 08 Oct 2011)
If the rules have been breached then Samsung should be punished accordingly.
7. joey_sfb (Posts: 5741; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
I do agreed that if Samsung break the US law they should be punished. But in the US, Apple can break the law and get presidential pardon.
Hypocrisy at its finest. To me reason are just excuse outcome is all that matters.
8. Mozarrt (Posts: 301; Member since: 08 Oct 2011)
Apple's activities (how bad they may be, I have no idea) have nothing to do with crimes committed by Samsung. And it's not only Apple, but also other companies including Nokia that think Samsung has committed a punishable offence.
17. 14545 (Posts: 1532; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
Oh, so their competition says that big bad Samsung did something wrong(how would they know), therefore they must be right? What kind of logical sense does that make.
20. Finalflash (Posts: 3084; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
Doesn't matter who gets off where, no one deserves special treatment. Apple's products should have also been banned and they should not have been given special treatment. But this isn't a one for one deal, the injustice has to be stopped where ever possible.
24. 14545 (Posts: 1532; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
I agree. But in this situation it just sounds like sour grapes.
26. stealthd (unregistered)
You've got your facts pretty heavily mixed up.
Apple didn't "break the US law". The ITC issued an import ban based on FRAND patents, which was pretty much universally frowned upon. So the head of the FTC vetoed the ruling (not Obama, and not a pardon).
27. 14545 (Posts: 1532; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
So because it is FRAND (and obviously essential) a the company shouldn't be compensated for it? Huh?
53. stealthd (unregistered)
Did I say that? No, I didn't. ITC isn't about compensation, if they want to get compensated for their patents then they should negotiate or head to court.
28. tedkord (Posts: 11623; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
The ITC found that Apple was engaging in bad faith negotiating, they were never intending to pay for use of those FRAND patents. That's why they took the unusual step of ordering a ban. The veto did not dispute these facts.
55. stealthd (unregistered)
That's what a lawsuit is for. It's been pretty much universally agreed in multiple jurisdictions in multiple countries that standards essential patents should not be used to get a ban. That doesn't mean Apple is off the hook, that means Samsung has to get damages through court.
35. willard12 (Posts: 1677; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
Did Apple break the law by conspiring to fix ebook prices?
54. stealthd (unregistered)
Does that have anything to do with Samsung? No, it doesn't. Ever heard of relevancy?
58. joey_sfb (Posts: 5741; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
Say what you want stealthd but Apple's actions is the result of its declining market share and that's a fact. They may have won in a twisted unjust US legal system but the world is watching and supporting Samsung instead.
I have stop buying Apple products since iPad 3 and Macbook 2011 editions. Instead i have bought Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7, Note 2, Note 3 /w gear and upcoming would be Note 10.1 2014 LTE edition. Most of my Asian friends are doing the same. We hate Apple ligation strategy.
9. darkkjedii (Posts: 21201; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Wowww Sammy, you deserve a spanking for this one.
10. crpz32 (Posts: 3; Member since: 07 Oct 2013)
Don't you guys watch Korean dramas? Koreans have NO morals whatsoever. If it's gonna give them an edge, they will cheat, lie, do whatever to get ahead. It's beaten into their heads since kindergarten when the parents start telling their kids they need to be #1 at everything. such a sad society. I'm a Korean-American btw.
15. Sauce (unregistered)
Off topic, have you watched IRIS or Athena? My favorites lol
29. tedkord (Posts: 11623; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Excellent logic. And have you watched American movies? Apparently Americans will put you in a hole, feed you and make you put on moisturizer so they can skin you and wear it like a suit.
I had no idea that you could judge a people by the characters they portray. I thought fictional characters were, you know, made up.
Unethical behavior to get what they want is a character trait of all big business.
43. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4185; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
Look at the previous pope, he wanted to wage an all out war on Harry Potter.
52. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
But in the end, a higher power intervened, forcing the previous Pope into retirement.
36. willard12 (Posts: 1677; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
Yeah. Koreans should have better morals and use good parents as examples......Steve Jobs comes to mind.
12. microsoftnokiawin (Posts: 1178; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
wow talk about playing dirty 1
13. cncrim (Posts: 823; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)
She break the law, she needs get punish.
14. JewBakaUCFG (Posts: 173; Member since: 25 Sep 2012)
Didn't Woz just say something about freedom and the sharing of information? Seems a bit hypocritical to punish Samsung when you are trying to have all information made available to everybody. Then again, Woz isn't Cook ...
18. Dunknown (Posts: 84; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)
What an idiot company! Samsung better exit the smartphone market. It is more like trouble maker. Everytime there is lawsuit, it must involve Samsung. Will never by Samsung again.
21. 14545 (Posts: 1532; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
For some reason, given that comment, I highly doubt you ever bought Samsung to begin with.
23. GeekMovement (Posts: 2156; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
Time to move on from Samsung.
32. AfterShock (Posts: 3698; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
I believe the attorneys have the most to fear for being the cause of said leak.
Samsung will do the cake walk.
33. 1113douglas (Posts: 193; Member since: 04 Jul 2013)
i think somebody's jealous.... (apple)
34. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4185; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
While Samsung is in the wrong and deserves to be punished, why would the judge ask Nokia & Apple how they should be punished? There have certainly been other cases of this before, and laws on the books telling how to deal with this situation, so.....I guess I don't get why their opinion matters. When any person commits a crime, they don't ask the victim how they should be punished, but simply if they want to press charges or not.
Again I'm not saying Samsung is in the right or anything, just why Nokia and Apple should have any say in HOW they are punished.
40. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 2183; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)
Both parties were harmed. Nokia got a worse deal because Samsung knew the exact details of the Apple-Nokia deal, and Apple because their confidential information was leaked to a competitor illegally.
42. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4185; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
I get that, but I have never seen a judge ask a victim what they believe the punishment should be. See my previous post, when have they ever asked a murder victims families or the victim of a robbery how the accused should be punished? The job of determining the punishment is on the prosecution or the judge himself, not the victims of the crime.
49. tedkord (Posts: 11623; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Well, all the time. Families get a chance to make a statement to the judge and ask for the punishment they feel is warranted.
56. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4185; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
Yes, but they have certain punishments for each crime, like 25 to life or 8 1/3 to 25. Mostly when they ask families, it's whether or not to seek the death penalty, or if they don't have a good enough case for the maximum, if they're OK with pursuing a lesser charge that they have a better shot at winning.
50. 14545 (Posts: 1532; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
Oh, so because they AGREED to the deal that was less favorable(but obviously as favorable or less than the one they gave apple) that means they were harmed? God people make no sense. If they didn't like the deal they shouldn't have settled. Also, they shouldn't be giving one company (apple) more favorable deals than another (Samsung, HTC, ....). These software patent deals should be public anyway. After all, a patent is a government granted monopoly, so it should be treated as anything else in government. Transparent. (even though that obviously doesn't always happen, it should)
37. 9thWonderful (Posts: 232; Member since: 24 Jan 2013)
ooooo we!
38. rahul.niks (Posts: 86; Member since: 31 Oct 2013)
Samsung must be punished and apple should now know how to manage its confidential information, for me samsung sucks and so is apple,,, and don't know what nokia is doing in here anyway, i think they are out of competition ;)
41. PBXtech (Posts: 1032; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)
And yet Apple consistently turns to Samsung for components. If Apple was a person, they'd be taking bi-polar medication the way they sue one moment then order massive components the next.
44. ilia1986 (unregistered)
I am sorry, it appears that everyone missed the keywords "according to apple".
Of course Nokia backs up apple as well, but that's out of some hope getting some desperately needed cash as well.
In short - it's time to stop with the legal bs and start innovating.
57. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4185; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
Yes the mobile industry is amazing, not only are they one of, if not the fastest growing industries today, but they appear to be jump starting the legal industry as well. There are times when I agree with Bill Shakespeare. I have a cousin who's a lawyer in another field, and he agrees it's ridiculous.
While most say this won't affect the public, what about the models that get software features removed after purchase? Now something that they have used is taken away after they have paid their money. Would make me a little leery when purchasing if there's a possibility that the device will have less functionality after the sale. If the legal battles keep up at this pace and more and more features get removed, the industry could end up imploding on itself.
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July 1, 2006, 02:19 AM
Why dont they make big game rifles???????? 300 Utlra mag, 7mm mag some big game hunting calibers?????
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July 1, 2006, 04:36 AM
Try firing the .45-70 version with full-house loads sometime. They're light and accurate rifles, but they hurt when they get that big. :uhoh:
'Sides, I wouldn't want to hunt big game with something that has no provision for a follow-up shot.
July 1, 2006, 09:49 AM
You can get one in .30-06 or even .35 Whelen starting this year. I realize that neither of those are long range 'uber' thumpers like a .300 Ultra mag, or a 7mm mag, but as far as reasonable application of force on any game in North America...thee is no real difference.
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July 1, 2006, 11:42 AM
The receivers aren't wide enough to fit a barrel large enough in diameter at the breech to accomodate a chambering as large in diameter as a Magnum. They're scaled for 30-06 sized chamberings, and the magnums are simply too fat to fit and still have enough metal around the chamber for anything but the low-pressure chamberings like 45/70.
The T/C Encore also has this issue, albiet a lesser issue since the Encore is scaled to handle the 'normal' belted magnums. But you'll not see any of the newer beltless (fat) magnums in the Encore for the same reason as the NEF won't be chambered in anything that's not based on a .473 rim/case head diameter - there's just not enough meat in the action to handle high-pressure chamberings larger in diameter.
July 2, 2006, 02:02 AM
go over to bunbroker; type in nef. some pretty big stuff over there.
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Personally I'm waiting for the .460 S&W. I all ready have the .500 but I bet the .460 could really reach out and touch anything I want to hunt.:)
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The action is simply not strong enough for those large rounds. The larger case heads combined with higher pressures will strech the reciever to the point of failure. It would be like rechambering a 30-40 Krag rifle to .308 Winchester. *Internet rumor time* I believe someone tried to rechamber a 30-06 barrel to 300 Win mag. The gun fired 6 shots before the receiver failed.
July 3, 2006, 02:56 PM
Go spend $100 on a 10 gauge. Get some magnum Turkey loads for it. Shoot it 3 times. :eek:
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believe someone tried to rechamber a 30-06 barrel to 300 Win mag. The gun fired 6 shots before the receiver failed.
.300 Win Mag is a much fatter cartridge. The walls of the chamber would be a lot thinner when he was done.
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Cross is James Patterson's 12th novel featuring his most famous character, Alex Cross. It was released in 2006. This novel was also released in some markets under the title Alex Cross.
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13 years ago, Alex Cross' wife, Maria, was killed in a drive-by shooting. A long-kept secret is that he witnessed it. Now, years later, a possible suspect, named Michael "The Butcher of Sligo" Sullivan, returns. Alex, who has quit the FBI and became a therapist, must join forces with DCPD detective - and long time friend - John Sampson to find out who really killed Maria, and stop him. Cross will go to any lengths to stop the monster that killed his wife. After years of desperation, depression, crying, lies, and heart break, Cross will find out what really happened on that night long ago. He vows to get vengeance for his wife, even if it means his death. The Dragonslayer is back in the 12th book in the Alex Cross series.
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In the present of 2005 in Washington D.C., Detective Alex Cross struggles to let go of what happened to his wife and also his life as a FBI agent as well. After nearly dying in Mary Mary and also in a recent hostage situation, Nana Mama finally has enough and leaves the family, only to return when she realizes how wrong of her it was to just leave. She convinces Alex to retire from the FBI, making him realize that he needs to make a change in his life. Despite objections from the FBI director Ron Burns, Alex quits his job as an FBI agent and goes back to private practice. At the same time, the Butcher, who isn't working with Jimmy anymore, arrives in Venice to do a job for his new boss, John Maggione, the son of the now-deceased Dominic Maggione, who does not like Sullivan. He realizes that something is strange with his targets. It turns out to be a trap and the couple were actually hired by Maggione Jr. to kill him. Because of luck and his excellent skills, he survives and kills the couple. He decides to get revenge against Maggione.
Alex finds himself enjoying his new life, being able to come home early enough for dinners with his family and spending more time with the kids as well. He also continues his relationship with Kayla Coles, who he has been dating since Mary Mary, and the two grow closer in love. But while he does enjoy his private practice and his new life, he also misses the cases and still feels the need to be out there on the Job. The Butcher returns to the United States and begins to target those who are working under John Maggione, he first kills a mobster named Benny Fontana and his girlfriend inside his own apartment. The Butcher then returns to his wife, Caitlin, and children at his home in Maryland, who have no idea what he does.
John Sampson, Alex's best friend and former partner in the DCPD, is on a stakeout mission against Gino "Greaseball" Giametti, who is known for smuggling young women in and out of the Eastern Seaboard of the United States for the Mob. After arresting Giametti, Sampson learns that he knows who killed Alex's wife and is willing to make a deal with Alex only. Before Alex can arrive in time, Giametti is killed by the Mob, leaving Alex without answers. While wagging a war against John Maggione and the Mob, The Butcher rapes a woman named Lisa Brandt, who he convinces to keep quiet with a series of photos that he keeps with him, which show human remains of his previous victims. It is revealed that The Butcher is not only a contract killer, but also a serial rapist as well. He plays a game known as "Red Light, Green Light", which he uses to draw in attractive women and then rape them. After surviving an attack from Maggione, with his kids present, The Butch begins to take matters into his own hands and calls up Maggione, warning him that he is coming for vengeance.
One day, John receives a call from a Detective Angela Susan Anton, who is investigating the rapes that The Butcher has been committing, asking for his support and also Alex's help as well, since he is considered one of the most professional detectives. John manages to convince him come on board as a consult and the two begin to look into the rapes. They try to talk to Lisa, the very recent victim, but can't get her to help them out, due to her fear that he may kill her for helping. They later convince another victim, named Mena Sunderland, to help them in their investigation. While working on the investigation, Alex receives a call that Kayla was stabbed by a junkie and had driven herself to the hospital. Rushing to the very same hospital where Maria was pronounced dead, Alex hears that Kayla will live and he goes to comfort her as she sleeps.
The Butcher kills another mobster named Dante Ricci, including his wife, sending a clear message towards Maggione. He also sends his family into hiding in Massachusetts for their own safety, and so that he can finally get his revenge without worrying about them as well. He later finds out about Mena's involved with the case and kills her in her home. Alex and John are shocked when they hear the news, which results in Alex feeling guilty for endangering her. Alex continues to follow the case and begins to connect the dots that The Butcher is the one causing all of the serial rapes, remembers his first encounter with him years before, and also wonders if he is the one who killed Maria.
Also, after having dinner with his family, Alex talks to a recovering Kayla, who is staying in her hometown in North Carolina with her parents. Kayla reveals that she has decided to move back to her hometown, having found peace there. Deciding to let her go, Alex supports Kayla on her choice, but also regrets not telling her how he truly feels. He then pushes himself more harder into the case with John. Both of them look into The Butcher's past and later discover that he was childhood friends with a man named Tony Mullino. Interrogating Tony, Alex and John learn that The Butcher killed his own father, who was a physical and sexual abuser towards him in his childhood days, and that he, The Butcher, and Jimmy Galati dumped his body in the harbor of New York City.
Meanwhile, after killing Paul Mosconi, Maggione's brother-in-law, The Butcher launches his attack against John Maggione, kidnapping him and then killing him. After finding evidence of The Butcher's home, Alex and John stage a stakeout to capture The Butcher, only to learn from Tony himself that The Butcher has tricked them and that he has killed John Maggione. Returning home, Alex reveals to Janelle and Damon that the man who killed their mother is back and that he has to take this one last case. They both understand and Alex reveals everything that he has been hiding from them about that night Maria died.
The Butcher takes on another job to kill a woman named Melinda Steiner, whose husband ordered the hit. After seeing her and her co-worker having sex, he is impressed with their lovemaking and decides to spare her, but he does kill her co-worker in order to leave behind no witnesses. He instead offers to kill her husband for double the price he was giving him, which she agrees to. Taking her back to her husband's home, Melinda and The Butcher confront Mr. Jerry Steiner, who The Butcher kills. After being paid by Melinda, The Butcher kills her and leaves to go get his family.
Learning that The Butcher actually now lives somewhere on the western side of Massachusetts, both John and Alex vow to "end him", whether or not he is Maria's kill, and make the drive from Washington D.C. and make another stakeout. Watching The Butcher make way to his house, they are all ambushed by the Mob, who have come to avenge John Maggione's death. John, Alex, and The Butcher kill everyone and have a standoff. Alex confronts The Butcher on why he killed his wife in 1993, only for him to say that he didn't kill Maria and runs into the woods. While trying to get away in a vehicle, Alex disables the vehicle and wounds him. The Butcher takes his own wife hostage, only for Alex to shoot and kill him, but Alex also sustains wounds of his own and nearly dies.
Weeks go by and Alex heals from his wounds. While being haunted by The Butcher's last words, Alex starts to believe that he wasn't Maria's killer. Confronting John on the matter, he learns a dark secret that has been kept for nearly thirteen years. It is revealed that Jimmy "Hats" Galati was Maria's true killer, not The Butcher. John Sampson and another detective named Rakeem Powell, found out about it and killed Jimmy in New York all those years ago when they couldn't get enough evidence to hold him to it. John killed Jimmy so Alex didn't have to lose what was left of his soul and that he never told him because he knew that Alex would regret not doing it himself. Finally knowing the full truth, Alex thanks John for always being there for him.
When the time comes for Kayla to move back to her hometown in North Carolina, Alex visits her for the final time. Kayla tries to convince Alex to move with her, wanting to be with him. Alex refuses, knowing that he can never leave Washington D.C. and that he belongs there. They both end their relationship on good terms and go their separate ways. Back at home, Alex finally comes to terms with Maria's death and finds the will make a change in his life, finally allowing himself to "move on" and be happy.
Alex was born in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. His mother died when he was 8 years old and his father was an alcoholic, which killed him a year after Alex's mother died, so he lived with his grandmother from the age of 10. Alex Cross joined the Washington DC Police Department as a psychologist. There he worked in the Homicide and Major Crimes department and somehow also worked between the FBI and the DC police. After this he worked for the FBI as a Senior Agent. When he retired from the FBI, he opened his own psychology practice.
He still lives in Washington DC with Nana Mama and his three children Damon, Jannie and Alex Jr. Despite the fact that he's well educated and makes a decent living, he chooses to continue living in the slums of DC and is very much involved in the community. In his free time he likes playing the piano, listening to classical music and reading.
In the novel, Alex has a relationship with Kayla Coles, who is a resident physician, and the two show romantic feelings for each other. At one point in the novel, after hearing that Kayla is moving to North Carolina, Alex expresses that he needs her and might be in love with her too. However, the two decide to end their relationship, which sadness them both, and they go their separate ways.
While Alex tries to move on with his life, he is still haunted by the murder of his wife, Maria, who he still loves very much. He spends a lot of the story remembering moments about Maria, missing her a lot and trying to find out who killed her. By the end of the book, right after discovering that Jimmy "Hats" Galati was the one who killed his wife, Alex finds the will to let go of Maria and move on with his life. Patterson portrays him as a lonely person but also as a model father who tries to spend as much time as possible with his family.
- Nana Mama
Her real name is Regina Hope Cross and she's Alex's grandmother who looked after him when he grew up. She's 81 years old and still lives with Alex and his three children in Washington DC. Nana used to work as an English teacher and as an assistant principal at Garfield North Junior High School in Washington. She's quite severe and manners are very important for her. She helped take care of Alex and his kids after Maria died.
- Maria Simpson Cross (flashback)
Alex's deceased wife, whom we briefly meet in the opening chapters of the story. She is shown in a flashback in the very beginning of the story and also in another mini-flashback in the middle of the story. Maria was a kind, gentle, and loving woman. She is the mother of Janelle and Damon, who she loved with all of her heart. She was even pregnant with her and Alex's third child. She loved Alex very much, even telling him this just before she died.
He and Alex have grown up together and know each other since they were 10 years old. He was Alex's partner when he worked for the DC Police. After Alex leaves the FBI, Sampson needs his help in a case that involves a series of rapes and that probably is in connection with the murder of Alex's wife Maria, so they become temporary partners for the time being. In the novel, it is revealed that John killed Maria's real murderer, Jimmy "Hats" Galati, along with the help of a fellow detective named Rakeem Powell, in New York City. John and Rakeem covered up the murder, so that no one would find out. When John reveals this to Alex, it helps strengthens their friendship and the two decide to keep the truth buried. John has a wife named Billie and a young daughter as well.
- Kayla Coles
Kayla is a resident physician at a local hospital in Southeast Washington D.C. and also Alex's girlfriend in the novel. She was introduced in Four Blind Mice and appears all the way to Cross, during which, she and Alex form an attraction to each other and later start dating in Mary Mary. Kayla has romantic feelings for Alex and enjoys being with him.
During the story, she is stabbed by a junkie and is taken to the hospital, where Alex comforts her. While visiting her parents in her hometown of North Carolina, Kayla decides to move back there, finding that she can do more good there and later tells Alex, who is sadden by this but supports her. By the end of the novel, Kayla tries to convince Alex to move with her, showing that she still wants a relationship with him, but Alex refuses, believing that he can never leave Washington behind. Kayla and Alex decide to end their relationship, which saddens them both, and they go their separate ways.
- Michael "The Butcher of Sligo" Sullivan
Michael Sullivan grew up in Brooklyn, New York. He had no good childhood and often had problems with his father, who molested him. So at the age of eighteen, he killed him before dismembering him using a scalpel and feeding him to the fish in the bay. Some time later he got connections to Mafia, especially the Maggione family, for which he worked as a killer. After one of his jobs, he got the nickname "the Butcher" due to his cruelness and often killing his victims in a brutal way. After killing his victims he would cut up their faces with a scalpel to make a point and take pictures to use a threatening devise so his next victims would keep quiet. Somewhere along the line, Michael started raping young, attractive women and would often leave them alive, showing them the same pictures to keep them quiet. He is believed to be the one who killed Maria, but is proven innocent as it was his former partner Jimmy "Hats" Galati who killed her. By the end of the novel, Michael is killed by Alex. He has a wife and three sons, and also has a home in Maryland.
- Jimmy "Hats" Galati
Jimmy is The Butcher's partner in crime and turns out to be the killer of Maria. He is killed by Sampson and another detective named Rakeem Powell, years ago. It was never revealed to Alex that Jimmy had murdered his wife until the end of the novel, where John comes clean after they kill Michael "The Butcher" Sullivan, Jimmy's old partner. "Jimmy was known as "Jimmy the Protector" because he had the Butcher's back. Always." The beginning flashback was the only appearance throughout the series that Jimmy ever made, but he is mentioned dozens of times. Originally, The Butcher thinks one of his mob bosses killed Hats, but it is later revealed that Sampson killed him.
Alex was listening to a funny story told to him about Morgan Freeman, who played him in the first two film adaptions.
Later, Alex was seen watching Diary of A Mad Black Woman, a film directed by Tyler Perry, who also played to him in the latest installment of the Alex Cross franchise.
Film adaptation[edit]
A film adaptation of the novel, titled Alex Cross, was released on October 19, 2012. The film stars Tyler Perry as the title character and Matthew Fox as The Butcher/Picasso.
The novel and the movie don't have much relation to each other, and the screenplay borrows elements from other parts of the Alex Cross stories, blending them together out-of-sequence, and making up other sections completely. For instance, Cross and his family lived in the Southeast section of Washington DC, not Detroit. Damon is the eldest child, not Janelle who was still a baby when Maria was killed in a drive-by (not by a sniper). Alex's partner and best friend is John Sampson, a black man bigger even that Cross, not a skinny white guy.
Patterson implies in the on-disc interviews that this Alex Cross movie should be considered as a reboot of the franchise and is meant to continue through to the current novels. He also said that, although he loved Morgan Freeman in the first two movies, Along Came a Spider and Kiss the Girls, Tyler Perry is closer, physically and artistically, to his own internal conception of what Dr. Cross is like.


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Jake who? A newly single Reese Witherspoon, sipping a blackberry mojito at The Backyard, the poolside restaurant at the W Los Angeles, along with two girlfriends. An onlooker tells us: "She was in summer attire, just basking in the sun and laughing." And her pals must have been in a good mood: Witherspoon picked up the check.
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Anti-Gay Lawmakers Caught In Affair, Bizarre Cover-up
The Detroit News published audio recordings today that expose an effort by two married Michigan Republican lawmakers to try to suppress news of their affair with each other. As part of the cover-up, state Reps. Todd Courser and Cindy Gamrat, among the most vocal opponents of gay rights and defenders of "traditional marriage" in the state legislature, planned to start a rumor that Courser was actually having an affair with a man.
"Courser, a Lapeer Republican, said on one recording the email was designed to create 'a complete smear campaign' of exaggerated, false claims about him and Gamrat so a public revelation about the legislators' relationship would seem 'mild by comparison,'" Chad Livengood reported. "Interviews with former House employees and the recordings show freshman lawmakers Courser and Gamrat, R-Plainwell, used their taxpayer-funded offices to maintain and cover up their relationship."
Fearing that news of the affair would come out, Courser demanded that an aide send out a mass email to state Republicans claiming that Courser, had "male on male paid sex behind a prominent Lansing night club," describing him as a "bi-sexual porn addicted sex deviant" and a "Godless Addicted Monster." Courser, explained to the aide, who refused to send the email, that it was part of a "controlled burn" strategy.
As Livengood pointed out, Courser and Gamrat "are socially conservative legislators who often invoke their Christian faith in pursuit of new legislation governing gun rights, abortion and marriage," and are closely aligned with the Tea Party.
Gamrat and Courser made waves earlier this year when they tried to circumvent the Supreme Court's marriage decision by introducing a bill declaring that only members of the clergy could perform marriages in Michigan. Gamrat denounced the marriage ruling as a "sad day in our nation" and blasted the court for trying to "redefine for our entire nation, marriage, the bedrock of families and society since the beginning of time." She also warned that people who "do not embrace the homosexual lifestyle will need protections" to fend off impending persecution.
Courser has similarly alleged that LGBT rights advocates are trying to do away with freedom, maintaining that "this decision by the Supreme Court was and is an absolute tragedy for our nation and its future." He responded to the Supreme Court ruling by announcing that we "are living in the last days" and that it "was a crushing day for those who believe in traditional marriage and traditional morality."
Days before the decision, Courser told his supporters: "I will say that I grieve for our nation as we take one step after another to deny the diety of God and who He is. As we step further and further away from Him and His Holy word we lose His protection for ourselves, our families, our communities, our states and of course our Nation!"
Last December, we reported on Courser's efforts to block an LGBT nondiscrimination measure, accusing its supporters of "promoting evil" and attempting to "destroy freedoms of religion and speech for our children and their children" and "institutionalize discrimination against Christians and other faiths."
He also said that gay marriage is leading to the End Times and "persecution":
It is a decision that will embolden and expand the tyrannical hammer of the secular progressive left....
This decision will be a toe hold and from this decision we will see many more decisions that curtail our first amendment rights of free speech, freedom of religion, freedom of association, and of course freedom of conscience. This decision will unleash the power and scope of government to further society by its power of persuasion and its hammer of threat of governmental persecution. Every regulatory apparatus of government will be focused henceforth on indoctrinating children and the greater society that same sex marriage is moral and every bit accepted, preferred to traditional marriage. Anyone who disagrees with this new paradigm will be vilified as a homophobic bigot. Some of these activists are the most intolerant viscous hate mongers who will demonize anyone who opposes their tyrannical agenda. It works and virtually none are left in elected leadership who will now stand and oppose them publicly as they destroy our rights to freedom of religion and freedom of speech.
If we do not act now we will see public officials, pastors, and private citizens alike being limited in what they can say or do. The effects of this decision, many unforeseen, on our nation and the world will echo through the end of time. It will destroy and tear down families and with it our social fabric of our society.
We are indeed living in the last days....
May God discipline and correct the hearts of our countrymen and in so doing may He once again bless the United States of America!
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1874 Red Stockings Cigar Label
Starting Bid - $100.00, Sold For - $352.50
This beautiful multicolor stone litho cigar box end label (5 x 2 inches) was manufactured in 1874 by Nichols & McDonald, Tobacconists of Boston. It is the only example known to exist. Located at 400 Washington Street, Boston, Nichols & McDonald were the sole proprietors for Red Stocking Cigars. The only other known relic relating to this establishment and Red Stocking Cigars is a multicolor advertising poster, also from 1874, featuring George Wright endorsing this same product. Only one example of that advertising poster is known to exist, and it is extremely significant in that it is the earliest known advertising endorsement of any product by a ballplayer. To the left of the Red Stockings logo the cigar label reads "Manufactured by N & M;" to the right of the logo it reads "Boston." The Red Stockings Cigar brand was first established years earlier, when the Red Stockings were in Cincinnati. In addition to the 1869 Cincinnati Red Stockings brand cigars and the 1874 Boston version produced by Nichols & McDonald, the Red Stocking Cigars brand was reestablished many years later. The later edition of Red Stockings Cigars bore labels featuring a generic Boston ballplayer (based on George Wright's image on the 1874 poster) which are copyright dated 1884, but were issued years after that date. These later labels are quite rare and desirable, but in no way should be confused with this earlier, much rarer, and more significant label. Vg-Ex condition. Reserve $100. Estimate $200/$300. SOLD FOR $352.50
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text: Chad, Skeptics have been saying the burst is coming since 2009. Fast forward to today, and we haven't seen any bursts. We have seen a few spikes in the price due to spikes in demand for the currency. Those can all be tracked back to spurts in media about Bitcoin. Feel free to look at the value of BTC over time at this graph: http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#tgSzm1g10zm2g25zv (That goes back to late 2009) On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Chad Smith <chad78 at gmail.com> wrote: > I don't think anyone is claiming that BitCoins are currently worthless. > They have some value to some people. I hold to my opinion that it is a > *fad* once the bubble bursts those BitCoins that are worth currently > (according to http://preev.com/) $123.20 US Dollars will someday > (relatively soon based on experience with other fads) be worth about $1.23 > -- or less. > > When that happens, the $5,000 machines used to mine them will not be able > to "create enough wealth" to pay for the power it takes to run them, much > less the cost of the machine itself. > > That is the scam. The selling of the "IT PRINTS MONEY" machines, not > necessarily the idea of BitCoin itself. > > Let me ask you this - if Butterfly *REALLY* believed in BitCoin - why the > hell would it sell its machines. If they "pay for themselves" in a couple > of months and become pure profit forever after that - then why not just > build them and plug them in and start mining as fast as they can? In > theory, they could buy the world in a couple of years, right? > > Obviously not. There's a burst coming, and Butterfly is smart enough to > know that. That's why they are selling the shovels now, while the gold > rush is on. > > *- Chad W. Smith* > > _______________________________________________ > Chugalug mailing list > Chugalug at chugalug.org > http://chugalug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chugalug > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://chugalug.org/pipermail/chugalug/attachments/20130906/6c02a579/attachment.html>


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Exhibition to display treasures of Memory of the World
A selection of high resolution photographs of some of the treasured items listed on UNESCO's Memory of the World Register, as well as other properties from projects that have been implemented under the Memory of the World Programme, will be exhibited from 8 September to 28 October around the railings of UNESCO's Fontenoy Building in Paris, France.
The exhibition will feature photographs and short descriptions of a wide range of items that form part of the documentary heritage, including the arrest warrant for Nelson Mandela (the world's most famous prisoner), Islamic medical manuscripts, ancient maps, the Bayeux Tapestry and precious archives from institutions around the world.
The Memory of the World Programme was established to reduce collective amnesia by preserving valuable archive holdings and library collections as well as by ensuring their wide dissemination. In this context, it undertakes promotional activities that are intended to raise consciousness among the general public and decision-makers of the need to preserve the world's documentary heritage.
This international initiative was launched by UNESCO in 1992 to protect the millions of valuable textual, print, audiovisual and electronic documents that libraries, archives and museums strive to preserve, in a race against time. A number of international, regional and national projects have been implemented in the succeeding years to provide access to endangered collections. These have focused on conservation or digitization, awareness-raising and training activities to reinforce the Programme.
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|Blue Zoo
|New wave, synthpop
|Years active
|1980–1985, 2010–present
|Magnet Records
|Andy O
Mike Ansell
Mickey Sparrow
Tom Morrison
|Past members
|Tim Parry
Matthew Flowers
Pete Lancaster
Steve Pond
Blue Zoo are a British new wave band, active between 1980 and 1985, and again since 2010.
Formed in 1980, their original band name was Modern Jazz, and they released two singles entitled "In My Sleep (I Shoot Sheep)" and "Ivory Towers" in 1981.
The nucleus of the band were Andy O (Overall) on vocals, Tim Parry on guitar, Mike Ansell on bass and Mickey Sparrow on drums.
Matthew Flowers (formerly of new wave band Sore Throat) accompanied the band live on keyboards, with Pete Lancaster occasionally on trumpet and Steve Pond from Inner City Unit playing occasional synthesizer.
Tim Parry later went on to become a record producer and work in artist management.
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|Apr 19, 2011, 12:43 PM
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Diplomacy tutorial
Apparently a lot of people have problems with the diplomacy in Civ 5, and I don't think there's a thread in the Civ 5 forums where someone doesn't complain about how bad, hopeless and broken it is.
This is of course nonsense. I also think it's strange to hear such claims when you think about how simplistic Civ 4's diplomacy was, where the Diplomacy game didn't really start until Free Religion, and by then it was already too late.
So I decided to play a game, and take a couple of screenshots along with it to explain how to successfully use diplomacy. The approach is a peaceful game.
- Emperor difficulty
- Civ: Inca
- Standard map size, 8 civs
- Continents
- Standard pace
- No mods
- Don't start any wars
- Don't get attacked
- Don't use "Research Agreement blocked path" exploit
- Win a science victory (Since it's my favorite)
- (After starting the game) Don't build a single military unit (Yep, I build 0 - zero - nill - nothing units the whole game, not counting the initial scout of course and a caravel to explore)
AI Civs in Civ 5 can be categorized into 3 different categories as I see it. The crazy ones (Think Monty in Civ 4) who -will- attack you no matter what, the ones who might attack you unless you play the diplo game well, and the ones who you have to do something really strange against to get into trouble. (Ghandi comes to mind)
The basic thing people have to remember in Civ 5's diplomacy (Besides religion is not going to save you) is to find a common enemy. Find an AI Civ you can persuade other AI Civs to regard as their enemy as well. That way, you will not be their enemy. Pretty easy.
Now let's see how we do this.
I'm not going to explain too much about how I play the game, because it's not important regarding diplomacy, but I'm a builder at heart, and don't like wars until the modern ages where I like to crush civs I don't like with my technologically superior units.
But, anyway, here is my starting location.
After a while I meet my first neighbor, Greece. Apparently he falls into the crazy category in this game, since he is hostile already the moment I meet him. He isn't this crazy normally, so I guess the flavors in Civ 5 has flipped him over the hedge this game. This means Greece will go to war against you, it's just a matter of time.
This on the other hand makes it pretty easy to find out who is going to be the AI to be picked on. It will be Greece. Which is good, because Greece is one of the AIs which can get you into trouble because they tend to run away, and try to win a diplo victory.
It doesn't take too long before he denounce me. I do the same to him.
It's around this time that I decide to try to play the whole game without building a single military unit, because I clear a barbarian camp for a militaristic city states, which gives me ally status with them for just 250 gold, which means I will get units at a pretty slow, but steady rate.
I have at this time already met my nemesis from Civ 4, Montezuma. He wants to have open borders with me, but I refuse. I always refuse open borders. Maybe it's just paranoia, but I think war is more likely with open borders signed.
Montezuma is friendly against me though, which is good. I'm going to use him against Greece.
It doesn't take long before Montezuma offers me a Declaration of Friendship. I gladly accept. Now the thing about DoF is that they can be quite expensive if you are a rich civ, since you always have to give in to their begging, and the richer you are, the more they want. So make sure you don't have too much gold in your "bank" if you sign a DoF.
The AI begging would be alright if I could actually get something from AI Civs if -I- was begging, but that seems to be impossible. I really dislike this, but I don't think an AI has ever given me anything in any of the 5 Civ games.....
It doesn't take too long before I hear from Greece again. It's time for war.
I've received a couple of units from the militaristic city state I'm allied with, and me and Greece also share a border with another city state, which I quickly ally for 500 gold to help me in the war. I try to persuade Montezuma to join me in the war against Greece, but he is too weak, and refuses. His joy will be short lived though, because Greece declares war on Montezuma as well.
It doesn't take long before my upgraded city state units, plus my city state ally pushes back the initial attack of Greece, and he offers peace. Normally Greece will not give me any more problems in the game, and if I play my cards right, I will not have to be at war again in the game.
And here comes the begging.... I accept with a sigh. I would still say the DoF was worth it because it created a conflict between Monty and Greece, which was exactly according to plan.
In the meantime I've also met Spain, who is friendly and has a DoF with Monty. The interesting part is that she is willing to go to war against Monty, which means she is likely to backstab. Will have to keep an eye out for her. I do not accept. I want her to go to war against Greece, but she doesn't want that yet.
I research astronomy, and explore the world and find two Civs on the other continent, England and Arabia. Both are neutral.
This is the standings and score so far. Interesting that the units I've received from the city state is enough to keep me in second place in the military standings. Probably because I'm number 1 in science and have upgraded the units. I have five cities, which is normally the number of cities I manage to build on a standard map before running out of space.
Small overview of my land.
Then it happens, Spain is finally willing to go to war against Greece. I pay her right away. Now the hate between Spain and Greece will grow, making an effective alliance between me, Monty and Spain against Greece. It's in my interest that Greece lives though, so I let Spain and Greece battle it out.
Arabia then approaches me and wants a DoF. I decline because I don't know enough about the diplomatic situation on the other continent.
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|Apr 19, 2011, 12:44 PM
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Shortly later I meet the two last civs, India and America. India is neutral and America is friendly. Arabia is in a war against both of them. Good thing I did not accept the DoF. I want to trade with them all as long as I can.
Spain then contact me and want a DoF. The circle has completed, I accept, and the plan worked perfectly.
Arabia then destroys America.
Monty wants me to join him in a war against Greece, but I don't want to do any warfare. (It is not the modern ages yet after all. ) I decline his offer.
He seems to be a bit afraid to go to war on his own, so I bribe him some time later.
Pointy sticks! My city state army doesn't fare too bad.
England now denounces Arabia. Monty denounces England shortly after. I remain passive. India now wants a DoF. I refuse of course. He is as good as dead, and I don't want to upset Arabia.
The game is now exactly where I want it in terms of diplomacy. 5/6 civs are friendly towards me, and Greece has no friends.
That turns into four civs though, as India is destroyed by Arabia. Arabia offer me yet another DoF. I accept it this time as I think England will be the next to be attacked, and Monty denounced England, so I should be safe signing a DoF with Arabia. England will be displeased, but she has no friends.
Spain + Inca. Best friends forever!
The game is now won, even though Arabia has the most points due to their conquering. I'm in the modern ages, far more advanced than any other Civ. I decide to have a bit of fun because the game is already won, and I've demonstrated how to use diplomacy to your advantage.
So I declare war against Greece to use my modern city state army....
England then wants to sign a DoF with me. I decline since I have a feeling she might be attacked next.
I free a Spanish worker from Greece and take three of Greece's cities before signing a peace treaty. I don't want to be seen as a warmonger after all....
It's not as Isabella could be any friendlier towards us.
War comes to England, but it's not Arabia, but Monty who is up against her, which is a surprise. England has only denounced Arabia..... Most interestingly though is that Spain has backstabbed Arabia! I said she could be likely to do this after she was willing to go to war against Monty early in the game, but 2000 years later, she actually does it, but against Arabia.
Now why not me? Was it because of my good relationship with her? Luck? Arabia was number 1 in points? Let's say it was because of good relationship for the sake of the tutorial.
Spain comes to me again for a DoF, but this time I turn it down because I don't want to mess with Arabia.
Especially not after I see the pointiest stick score.
End of the game! Relationship last round. As you can see, all Civs except Greece are friendly towards me. I've been allied with Monty and Isabella practically all the game.
I hope some can maybe find a bit inspiration to use diplomacy actively to win the game. You can have friends all game. You don't need a big army. You don't have to go to war.
Have fun!
|Apr 19, 2011, 01:48 PM
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Nice job. I think diplomacy gets a lot of bad press on here from people that don't understand it. It seems much more realistic than the civ4 system at least, and your post illustrates the intended usage quite well.
I think the reason Spain went for Arabia instead of you is the point totals. They seem to go after the highest scorers first, which totally makes sense. It's what I do, after all.
|Apr 19, 2011, 02:01 PM
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That was a fun read! Thanks!
|May 11, 2011, 11:44 AM
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Hi radiohodet!
Very clear and concise post! Well done!
I am still a noob in these "power-backstab-picking games", but there's something I miss: Denouncement as a diplomatic tool.
If you have a "victim" without friends, why not denounce him constantly to get an even better standing with all of his enemies? Is there a drawback?
|May 12, 2011, 04:33 AM
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Was fun to read and pass time at work! ^^
I will pay attention to diplomacy more seriously now.
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|May 12, 2011, 07:54 AM
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Nice tut. Thanks.
|May 12, 2011, 04:06 PM
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|May 13, 2011, 07:34 AM
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Good tutorial !
Though this doesn't mean that diplomacy doesn't need fixing. Particularly with the begging part, cascading denouncements, and also some penalties like "the covet the lands you own" and "you are the warmongering menace" are given much too easy in my opinion.
Also it would be nice if bonuses and penalties faded in time.
|May 15, 2011, 09:12 AM
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I loved the tutorial, very nice indeed. But I wanted to respond to this in particular:
1) Does not offer rewards for being friends with AI
2) Does not allow you options to ask AI to move troops away from your borders
3) Does not allow you to ask what an AI thinks of another AI (if this was incorporated with the Deceptive system, that would be great!)
4) Does not offer many diplomatic options in general
Therefore, although the base of diplomacy seems to be fine, it seems as if diplomacy still needs loads of work to truly be an important part of the game. As it is now, AIs are better served being used for cash to spend on city states and RAs.
|May 16, 2011, 08:28 AM
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I found your tutorial very helpful. Thanks.
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|May 18, 2011, 06:28 AM
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- unlikely to declare war on you (effect = focus military and resources elsewhere)
- full coin from trades
- more willing to denounce or wage wars on your enemies
- likely to sign fair research agreements
- highly unlikely (maybe even impossible) to declare war on city-states you protect
|May 18, 2011, 05:13 PM
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As for more willing to wage war on enemies, that is true...except when you bribe them into war with someone whom they've signed a DoF with (which I've been able to do pretty cheaply), then they both love and hate you for denouncing that enemy....this has happened to be multiple times....
Signing fair research agreements? Doesn't that happen when you're relatively close in techs? If you're an age or so ahead, then research agreements get more expensive.
Diplomatic options does not involve modifiers, which I also think need to be improved. It meant actually trading things, such as maps, influencing policies, etc. Perhaps the policy system could be added to diplomacy, with leaders that follow Liberty have an issue with those who go Honor, or Autocracy, Freedom leaders have an issue with Order, etc. These are all possibilities. I'm sure if we brainstorm, we could come up with a conglomerate of ideas.
All I'm trying to say is we have a good framework for manipulative diplomacy. But it still lacks benefits, in my opinion. It just seems like a way to get cash out of the AI. It needs improvement, that is all.
|May 18, 2011, 07:56 PM
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I began to get a lot more out of the diplomacy game when I began using the Info Addict mod. It is such a help to diplomacy, if anyone isn't using it and wishes they had more info about the global diplo scene when they make decisions they would be well advised to pick it up.
|May 19, 2011, 07:18 AM
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Didn't you say you wouldn't build any military units at all? I see Incan tanks. :P
Also, didn't you say you wouldn't wage wars? Why declare on Greece then? Also, I count manipulating the AI into DOWing on each other as starting a war. XD But I'm picky. Nice work.
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|May 19, 2011, 09:56 AM
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Thanks for the clarification. Point about waging the 2nd war against Alex remains though...even though it was for fun. XD
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Great thread. I enjoyed the insight -- worth reading in my opinion!
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One billion dollars raised in Knight Cancer Challenge
The $1 billion fundraising challenge by Nike co-founder Phil Knight and his wife Penny has been met. OHSU announced June 25 that it reached the fundraising goal that triggers the Knights' gift pledge, which sets a new philanthropic record. OHSU beat the Knights' deadline by seven months and garnered support from donors in every state in the nation and five countries. Donors were inspired by plans for the first grand-scale program of its kind dedicated to radically transforming early detection of lethal cancers ― one of the biggest unmet needs in cancer care today.
With $1 billion in new funding, the OHSU Knight Cancer Institute will begin fast-track recruitment of 250 to 300 scientists and physician investigators, including about 25 of the world's top researchers. These leading scientists will be given the financial support they need to ensure they can focus on research rather than administration of grants. Read more
Acting now to change the future
At the Oregon Business Summit, Brian Druker, M.D., shares his strategy for seeking faster, smarter ways to detect and treat cancer.
Decoding the root causes of cancer
Watch Knight Cancer leaders share their vision for a collaboration with Intel Corporation to deploy next-generation computing technologies to advance the field of precision medicine


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Column exposes infant deaths at hands of doctor, national media ignores the story
Last week a liberal Fox News political analyst, Kirsten Powers, wrote a column in USA Today titled "We've forgotten what belongs on Page One."
Last week a liberal Fox News political analyst, Kirsten Powers, wrote a column in USA Today titled "We've forgotten what belongs on Page One."
A federal judge has reversed a Food and Drug Administration ruling in order to make the Plan B emergency contraceptive available to women without a prescription, regardless of age.
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