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A bomoh, dukun or pawing/pawang in various languages, is a Malay shaman.[1]
The word Bomo(h) (medicine man) was mentioned as early as ±1600-1625 in Hikayat Aceh, which was written in Jawi script.[2]
- Hikayat Aceh 127:7 "... gajah tuanku ini. Diperhamba suruh ubati kepada [bo]mo gajah tuanku. Berilah makanannya."
- Hikayat Aceh 127:7 "... this king's elephant. The king asked it to be treated by the elephant [bo]moh. Give it food."
The bomoh's original role was that of a healer[3] and their expertise was first and foremost an in-depth knowledge of medicinal herbs and tajul muluk or Malay geomancy. This was supplemented by Sanskrit mantera (mantras) owing to the ancient Hindu-Buddhist influence in the region.
Since 1980s[edit]
The bomoh's craft remained largely unchanged even after Islam became dominant until the Islamic revival in the 1970s and 80s. Bomoh were then seen as deviant from the Muslim faith because of their invocation of spirits and the potentially harmful black magic they were accused of practicing. This period saw a drastic decline in authentic bomoh and many fraudulent shamans filled the void. As a result, bomoh are today looked at with suspicion even though they are still commonly consulted for personal reasons.
Cosmology and function[edit]
Malay metaphysical theory holds that the body, and in fact the universe itself, is made up of the four classical elements of fire, water, earth, and wind. Illnesses are often said to be caused by an imbalance of these elements. To restore this balance, patients are advised to bathe in cool water to which lime juice is added. The bomoh also works with rituals and incantations, called jampi.[4]
Some bomoh use cemeteries to summon spirits to fulfill requests by supplicants, while others only deal with a single spirit. It is said that sometimes the bomoh selects the spirit, while other times, it is the spirit who selects the bomoh. Spirits are said to be able to heal the sick, seek missing persons or even investigate reasons for bad luck. Spirits can also be used to attack people, cause sickness and misery and many other bad things. Bomoh who have a particular religion may incorporate their religious practices into their craft.
Traditionally, healing rituals of some bomoh involved music and dance, such as the main puteri or main peteri (a trance-dance from Kelantan and Trengganu often connected to mak yong), the main lukah (a fisherman's dance from Pahang), and the main saba (which re-enacts the heavenly princesses [puteri kayangan] dancing around a saba tree). The music is played by an assistant called the tuk minduk.
In popular culture[edit]
In 2014, shortly after the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, Dato Mahaguru Ibrahim Mat Zin, also known as Raja Bomoh (King of Bomohs) with his male assistant, attempted to locate the missing plane by conducting a series of rituals at the Kuala Lumpur International Airport.[5] The ritual involved the using of a pair of bamboo binoculars to see inside a bubu, a traditional fish trap.[6] Ibrahim Mat Zin claimed that the plane was suspended on the air amongst three locations which were the Philippines, South China Sea and on an unidentified country and it was hidden by the bunian people (a supernatural race resembling human, akin to elves in Malay legend).[7][8] Beside the ritual, Ibrahim Mat Zin also stated that 100,000 silat gayung martial artists from Persatuan Silat Gayung Ghaib dan Selendang Merah (Assosiation of Mystical Silat Gayung and Red Shawl) has performed a prayer for the missing plane and its passengers.[7] A few days later, he and his four assistants, three males and one female came to KLIA, bringing along a water gourd, a holy Zamzam water from Mecca, a small Surah Yaasin book and several other items to conduct another ritual.[7][9] This time, Ibrahim Mat Zin used two coconuts and knocked them against each other with his two bare hands while shouting takbir.[10][11] Then, his three male assistants sat on the "magic carpet" and using a number of "magical artefacts" such as a walking stick, a basket and two coconuts, and thus started the infamous scene, while local and international photographers took a few shots. Ibrahim Mat Zin claimed that the purpose of the ritual is to weaken the spirits. The incidents drew international ridicule until it became a subject of an online game application called "Bomoh: Rescue Run" developed by Triapps, which has surpassed more than 100,000 downloads in Google Play.[12] Khairy Jamaluddin, who is the Minister for Youth and Sports, was not amused by the antics of the bomohs. He tweeted, "Somebody should arrest those magic carpet bomohs. Memalukan (embarrassing)". He even contacted Jamil Khir, minister for Islamic affairs, to deal with the bomohs.[13] While JAKIM, a Malaysian Department of Islamic Development had issued a fatwa that Ibrahim Mat Zin's methods contradict the Islamic teachings.[14] The antics of the bomohs mimic a scene in one of the late P. Ramlee's movies, Laksamana Do Re Mi (Admirals Do Re Mi) where the main characters are riding on a flying carpet, and the bamboo binoculars session once held by Ibrahim Mat Zin to locate the missing plane mimics Re's magic single vision binocular in the movie.[13]
See also[edit]
- ^ Graham Harvey; Robert J. Wallis (5 February 2007). Historical Dictionary of Shamanism. Scarecrow Press. pp. 129–. ISBN 978-0-8108-6459-7.
- ^ Hikayat Aceh
- ^ Edwin R. Van Teijlingen; George W. Lowis; Peter McCaffery; Maureen Porter (1 January 2004). Midwifery and the Medicalization of Childbirth: Comparative Perspectives. Nova Publishers. pp. 243–. ISBN 978-1-59454-031-8.
- ^ A Dictionary of Malayan Medicine, ISBN 0-19-638149-5
- ^ "'Raja Bomoh' at KLIA to help find missing plane – Bernama". Bernama. The Malaysian Insider. 10 March 2014. Retrieved 22 October 2014.
- ^ "Missing MH370: Bomoh vows result with fish trap hook, bamboo binocular". Bernama. Free Malaysia Today. 10 March 2014. Retrieved 22 October 2014.
- ^ a b c Hasniza Hussain (10 March 2014). "'Raja Bomoh' turut bantu cari MH370" (in Malay). Sinar Harian. Retrieved 22 October 2014.
- ^ Lavanya Lingan; Hashini Kavishtri Kannan (10 March 2014). "Missing MAS flight: Shaman arrives to help find missing plane". New Straits Times. AsiaOne. Retrieved 22 October 2014.
- ^ Dennis Lynch (13 March 2014). "MH370: Malaysian Shaman Performs Ritual To Help Find Missing Malaysian Airlines Flight, Islamic Religious Department Shuts It Down [VIDEO]". International Business Times. Retrieved 22 October 2014.
- ^ Terrence McCoy (13 March 2014). "With satellites unsuccessful in plane search, Malaysian shaman tries coconuts". The Washington Post. Retrieved 22 October 2014.
- ^ Sam Judah (13 March 2014). "#BBCtrending: Malaysia's 'Bomoh' and the superstitious search for MH370". BBC News. Retrieved 22 October 2014.
- ^ Pathma Subramaniam (18 March 2014). "Bomoh-inspired app gets more than 100,000 downloads". The Malay Mail. Retrieved 22 October 2014.
- ^ a b "Missing MH370: Someone should arrest 'magic carpet bomohs', says Khairy". The Star. 12 March 2014. Retrieved 24 November 2014.
- ^ "Missing MH370: Bomoh's methods contradict Islam, says Jakim". The Star. 12 March 2014. Retrieved 24 November 2014.


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Wear your vibrant personality around your neck by creating your own Colorful Heart Pendant from Candace Jedrowicz. Polymer clay craft ideas don't have to be complicated. In fact, you can complete this project in just three steps.
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- Roll your clay out to 1/8″ thick. Burnish the front and back of the clay with crafting foils. I use tiny cookie cutters to make tiles from most of the clay.
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As promised, here's the tutorial for the heart wristlet/clutch bag I teased earlier this week. I think it turned out really cute, and it would be perfect for any special romantic dates you have planned. It's just big enough to hold the essentials, and there's plenty of time to whip one up in time for Valentine's Day.
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1. Fold the sheet of paper in half lengthwise and draw half of a heart. With the sheet still folded, cut it out. If necessary, trim it until you have a heart shape you're happy with.
2. Unfold the paper heart and place it on the back side of your vinyl. With a marker, trace around the heart twice, then cut out the two hearts from the vinyl. Make sure to cut inside the marker line, so that there's none left on the edges of your vinyl.
3. Place one vinyl heart with the straight edge right-side-up on the zipper, lining up the top zipper stop with where the heart begins to curve. Sew the heart to the zipper, leaving 1/2 inch from the point of the heart unsewn. Line up the other heart on the other half of the zipper, and sew in place.
4. Cut a piece of vinyl 5 inches by 1/2 inch. Fold it in half wrong sides together, and sew together along each long edge. Fold in half again and loop it around the large split ring.
5. Line up the hearts wrong sides together, and clip in place. Trim the zipper, and fold the ends into the inside of the hearts. Sandwich the vinyl loop between the two layers of vinyl on one arch of the heart.
6. Sew around the perimeter of the heart, starting and stopping at the zipper ends.
7. Create a wrist strap by attaching the ends of the chain to a small split ring, and then attaching this to the swivel clip. Clip to the ring on the bag.
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This is amazing! Pinning for when I get more comfortable with the sewing machine! Or when I can beg a friend to help me out!
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Well the explanation I'm proposing, and that is generally understood from the concept of the soul across various cultures, is that the mind is just a computational and memory storage tool.
The functionality question you're asking really is something akin to "What is the function of a computer?" ... simple really, it's useful for processing information and storing/retrieving memories, and running/interacting in it's own virtual/digital world.
Heck think of it as a computer CPU running one big World of Warcraft MMORPG/Matrix type application if you want to simplify it, though it's more complex than that. But the true "free will" input comes from outside, from the user that is entering input and controlling the mouse and keyboard.
Similarly, the mind itself would be a proxy for the soul on another level. It is useful for storing the memories and experiences of this life, learning and refining skills applicable in it's own virtual world (this life), but the "decision-making" based on that information and computation is made by a user (soul) that is seeing all of this and entering live input where needed.
So basically it's more like your second "if decision making operates based on our experience of the world" scenario ... the input coming from the soul, coming from perhaps a quantum or sub-quantum/extra dimensional level, is aware of the experiences and worldly interactions of the mind and body through their composition down to the quantum level. Based on this information, the decision-making can be carried out by the soul the same way an MMORPG player can make decisions based on what he sees on the computer screen.
The mind itself has no independent decision making, but it's
inputs are very much independent
, as quantum mechanics have shown that particle mechanics at the quantum level are always random and cannot be predestined to be one way or another even if the entire states of particles are known (as postulated in LaPlace's demon). It is in the form of these random particle collissions that input is entered into the "real world" by the soul.
I'm not sure I'm following this at all, which worries me a little.
Firstly, there is no concept of "the soul" that is cross cultural. Concepts of the soul in various cultures are radically different. The difference between Christian theology and Jewish theology, which are supposed to be at least similar on the issue, are not in the least. Getting into something like a Hindu/Buddhist or shamanistic/animistic view is even worse.
But lets see if I follow where you're going:
(P1) There is a soul which is external to the body.
(P2) The soul acts on the body (at the subatomic level) such that it has control over circumstances (brain states) which elicit particular behaviors.
(P3) Free will resides in the ability of the soul to manipulate behaviors independent of physical causality.
Do I have these wrong? They feel off to me.
I don't see why not ... if something cannot be proven one way or another, one is free to believe either side of the explanation based on logic and likelihood.
It's like saying in the 14th century or whenever the germ theory of disease came out almost two centuries before the microscope was invented to actually get empirical proof, "oh well just because you can't disprove these 'germs' doesn't mean they actually exist or have any relevance to disease theory. The theory makes a lot of logical sense of course, but one must continue to believe in Galens humors for healing, it's just stupid to believe otherwise!".
Not all things in science are empirically proven ... Einstein's theory of relativity was revolutionary far before it could be empirically proven. It doesn't make people believing or analyzing the world using that theory idiots. Heck, even macro-evolution isn't empirically proven it's not like anyone's ever seen a species evolve into another, it's based on broad patterns in fossil history.
You're missing the point I was making in the comment.
If you hold a proposition to be true and there is
no standard of evidence which could demonstrate the theory to be false
, then the applied value of that theory is limited.
When germ theory and theories of evolution and relativity were formed, there was a clear standard of evidence for ways in which they could be demonstrated to be false.
Darwin discusses it extensively. Einstein does as well.
Is there evidence that could demonstrate that (your interpretation of) free will did not exist? Is there evidence that could demonstrate that (your interpretation of) God does not exist?
This is me regurgitating Popper and (later) Flew on falsifiability, but that's where I was getting the point from. I'm sorry if that wasn't clear.
Well I already clarified that I wasn't just considering American fighters, I was just concentrating on them since we have reliable data for an detecting a statistical anomaly, in a country where there is more diversity in religion than say Brazil.
Just saying something to the effect of "Christians are dumb and uneducated, so you'll find more of them in MMA/sports" is a complete cop out. Some of the best wrestling programs in America are in California, East Coast etc., in the best funded universities, with all backgrounds of people competing in it.
I don't get this obsession with "post-collegiate" education as some sort of indicator of intellect either, and somehow people with just college degrees just being a bunch of unwashed bumpkins. If anything, useless MBAs with no real skills except claiming credit for others work are the dumbasses being fired first in today's economy.
Among the Christian fighters I mentioned, most if not all are college educated, so your casual assumption of assigning their religion to their "poverty/ignorance" is just another instance of an atheist superiority complex bias.
It's not an atheist superiority complex bias.
Post-graduate education directly correlates to higher income levels. That's a fact.
Also, when you say that "most of the top wrestling programs in the country exist in California and the East Coast," you're just plain wrong. Cornell (1) and Penn State (3)have a great wrestling programs, but of the top 25 programs in the country, 14 of them are in the midwest, one is in California (Cal Poly) and 5 or 6 (depending on how you count) are in the midwest.
Here's the difference, the midwestern schools produce a disproportionate number of the top MMA fighters. Though, realistically, very few collegiate wrestlers go on to become high profile MMA fighters, just because there are so few high profile MMA fighters contrasted with All-Americans.
Very few MMA fighters come from middle- or upper-class backgrounds. That was my point. It's not a pejorative, it's strictly observational.
Corrent on the Agnostics, dead wrong on atheists, at least based on any casual observation. Just go out on the internet, every comments thread, website, yahoo answers, stumbleupon, forum etc. is filled with absolutely virulent Christianity bashing. Every 13 year old with a keyboard is extolling the virtues of Flying Spaghetti Monster and patting himself on his back with a smug smile over his wit and "original" intellect. You yourself have started a thread on Pop atheism and how it's the trendy thing nowadays. It's not just the internet, I experience it over and over in my daily life.
If you want an example in MMA, take a look at this Frank Mir interview.
"Just don't care" very much? Atheists go
out of their way
to ridicule religion the moment anyone listens. There is somehow this ridiculous pretense that they have a casual nonchalance about it, but the very fact that the entire religion registration thread has 95% atheists all spewing ridicule against the one Christian trying to defend his views is an indicator of just how much atheists "don't care".
Actually, this particular criticism is fine. The point I was trying to make was about the advocacy of conversion, but that's actually a reasonable defense.
By the way, my criticism of "pop atheism" is not a critique of "mocking religion." Nietzsche does it (very, very well) and so did plenty of other philosophers. My critique is of the grounding of popular arguments (like the Pastafarian approach) and their relevance with respect to the way that they treat traditional philosophical arguments which are just orders of magnitude more powerful, because the analogies are more grounded and the historical impetus and lengthy debate makes them more easily defended.
Right, I'm sure those answers on prison surveys have nothing to do with the fact that their freedom depends on "proving" how reformed and good they are during parole hearings and otherwise, how their new found faith has changed their thinking and made them repent.
If you're going to quote a statistical anomaly, at least quote one where the respondants don't have an HUGE ulterior motive for a certain response. Like having a shot at freedom for example. At least in MMA or the free world people don't have that kind of motivation bias. You might as well cite me opinion polls of how much people in North Korea love their blessed leader Kim Jong Il.
All of the polling is conducted anonymously, as is standard operating procedure for any reasonable polling sample. The idea that asserting "I've converted to Christianity" would make it more likely for a prisoner to get out on good behavior is a little troubling, but I guess given the general association of the words "Christian" and "good person" that isn't surprising.
Who made this arbitrary distinction that so and so falls under "divine command" and so and so under "virtue ethics"? It's so arbitrary to say, oh if God tells you to be virtuous, well that's a WHOLE ANOTHER thing than if someone else says it. It's the height of semantics.
You're missing the distinction here.
Divine command theory perhaps I should've used the term "
theological voluntarism
") is the theory that the moral value of an action is derived from the moral command from god.
Virtue ethics is the theory that the moral value of the action is derived from the way in which the action promotes intrinsically virtuous behavior, behavior which forms habits that lead to personal betterment.
These are mutually exclusive because they both independently derive the concept of "moral action." It's not semantic.
Try to refute my point on the Gospels not projecting Virtue Ethics. All of of Jesus' words reinforce that virtue is rewarded and sin leads to destruction, that is the core of virtue ethics. How does it suddenly "change the theory" completely if God is the one encouraging virtue ethics?
Most Christians do actually tend to go in order from Gospels -> Epistles -> OT. One example is that you don't see most Christians holding a saturday sabbath, eating Kosher food etc. because of that very precedence i.e. in the Epistles it is stated that God made everything clean to eat and so the OT is negated in that regard.
Only a very small chunk of literalist Christians who think the Bible is the unfallible literal word-for-word written by God kind of thing pretend to take all parts the same, and even they I bet don't go around eating Kosher good and sacrificing bulls to archs. I'm not representing that literalist brand of Christian anyway.
Actually, polling indicates that number isn't very small at all. And I'm pretty sure that the section you're alluding to is in Acts, though I'd have to double check. But that's beside the point.
But I'm trying to get some terms ironed out here. I probably should have done this earlier.
Ethics is the practice of moral actions, and so different systems of ethics differ because they differ in defining what constitutes a moral action, a "good" action.
Theological volunteerism (the term I'm switching to because, as SEP points out "Divine Command Theory" is a weak term) determines the moral value of an action based on the expressed view of God in the text.
Virtue ethics determines the moral value of an action based on whether or not the action promotes a virtue in and of itself.
promote virtue ethics. My point is that he doesn't. The text in the Bible clearly does not instruct you to partake in the action because of the intrinsic character of the action (the virtue that it cultivates) but because of the instruction from God.
Also, the opposite of virtue isn't "Sin." The opposite of virtue is vice, which (accord to virtue ethicists) is simply the antithesis of the intrinsic moral character of a particular virtue.
A "Sin" is an action of inferior moral quality. "Sin" is synonymous with "bad action."
If God supported virtue ethics in the text, then a "Sin" would be an action that promoted "vice," in contrast to "virtue."
Name one religious (preferably more than token religious and someone who actually tried to be virtuous) UFC champ that fell as drastically and pathetically as Ortiz, at an early stage in his career?
There is no parallel for Ortiz at any stage of his career. How many UFC champions had defended their title 6 times at the age of 28? Frank Shamrock, who left the UFC and didn't really fight anymore until '07?Hughes was 31, or around there, when he had his initial loss to B.J. Penn, but even that's a little ridiculous as a comparison.
But what if we go back 15 years to a fellow named Royce Gracie, who at 29 years old had won three of four UFC tournaments, was a poster child for the sport including the second most prominent member of his generation in the family. A practicing Catholic, to the best of my knowledge, fell from grace after his embarrassing draw with Ken Shamrock leaving the sport for almost five years in disgrace.
It's not as dramatic but Ortiz's issues far predate his becoming champion of the UFC. I think it's fair hard to make someone a poster child for secular UFC champions when he has a life as screwed up as Tito's prior to coming into the organization.
That, of course, is my point.
GSP and Aldo may fall, but there is a huge difference in being taken out at 40 by the next young prodigy and being thrashed out by B-levels in your late 20s/early 30s.
Not to mention getting humiliated by an English street goon like Murray at the peak of his career and having his head stomped into the ground. What other guys at the top have such bad experiences? Oh they don't because they're not cocky douches like Ortiz.
There are two problems with this. The first is that your history is wrong. At no point in his career has Ortiz ever been thrashed by a "B-level." His losses since losing his title to Randy Couture are to Couture, Chuck Liddell, Lyoto Machida, Forrest Griffin and Matt Hamill. The fight with Hamill took place when Ortiz was 35, an age where fighters who generally peak early are often considered "past their prime."
Of those guys I just named, all but one of them (Hamill, obviously) was either a title holder at the time or was a title holder either a year before or after the belt was held.
And, again, while I think there's legitimate criticism to be made of Ortiz for "not fighting anybody" during the period following his first loss to Chuck Liddell, and not performing that well against the decent competition he did face, I don't know who you're thinking of when talking about getting "thrashed out by B-level guys."
You can keep bashing Ortiz is you want to, but calling his ego responsible for a loss in a street fight is a little ridiculous. Despite the fact that I'm one of the firmest defenders of that story as true (having multiple second hand accounts of it which seem reliable) street fights are horrible indicators of MMA performance, and the idea that there wasn't a sucker punch involved, or some sort of mitigating factor, especially given the fogginess of the circumstances and the shadiness of Murray, is a little ridiculous.
Also, you're welcome to consider Lee Murray a shady SOB, but please have some respect for his ability as a fighter.
Nope. As I already pointed out Mir is a virulent religion basher and atheist, which fits very well into my pattern of things not going right for cocky unrighteous guys. As far as giving him the benefit of the doubt, unlike Hughes Mir seems to make no effort to try to become nicer.
Hughes comes across as a giant douchebag at some points in his book, but you can see at least he's trying to rectify or change his behavior lately. He made amends with Tim Sylvia for example, and he comes across as less cocky nowadays than his early interviews.
Mir on the other hand goes out on a Brock trash talking spree followed by a psychotic obsession on "killing him in the cage". Why I should extend to him the same benefit I give Hughes, I have no idea. He is getting worse, not better.
Apart from your very selective reading of Mir interviews (I strongly recommend listening to
his discussion of the second Lesnar fight
) I'm making a point that you're giving Hughes a generous reading and Mir a harsh one. And I think that's still right.
Hughes doesn't just come off as a douchebag in his book, he comes off as disingenuous. I'm happy to give Hughes the generous reading, because I have reason to believe he's a nice guy under other circumstances.
I also have reason to believe that Mir is a nice guy. He's also a smart guy, and he gets himself hyped up for fights the same way that a large number of fighters do, by thinking of his opponent as the enemy. If you read his interviews and you think "this guy is a sadistic bastard," that's fine. But present the context of it, understand the function that it serves in that context and then see if that animosity exists outside of that context.
Like Hughes, sometimes Mir just says stuff that sounds arrogant or disingenuous or stupid. But, like Hughes, sometimes Mir has moments of lucidity, and I'm willing to be that those moments of lucidity that I can see indicate a person who has some emotional depth, and isn't just a heel.
Vera, yes, a bit more cloudy. He is a cradle catholic, but beyond that he makes ZERO mention of his religion or beliefs, or them playing any role in his life or inspiring him whatsoever.
Fine. I've already excluded this as an irrelevant standard of evidence, so if you want to pull a No True Scotsman, I really don't care that much.
How are they not based on virtue ethics? The very line
"Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to
" (i.e. Sin - opposite of virtue)
mentions that the reason to not drink too much is to not commit sins/debauchery/unrighteousness like cheating on your wife and sleeping with some skank etc. for example. If you don't believe in virtue ethics, you have no reason to dislike or look down on debauchery... the entire thing hinges on there being some sort of wrong consequences for that kind of thing. It is decidedly un-utilatarian and depends solely on thinking along virtue ethics lines, so I have no idea what your argument is here.
And it's not circular either, I don't know why you keep coming back with this thing. It's virtue ethics based i.e. Get too drunk -> Commit Sins -> Reap personal problems in love & life based on being unvirtuous. It's completely linear.
Again, you think that "sin" is the opposite of "virtue." This is not right.
"Sin" is the Biblical generic for "immoral action," or "bad action." "Vice" is the opposite of virtue.
Again, if the reason not to partake in drink were because of the intrinsic promotion of vice in the act of drinking, then that would be a promotion of virtue ethics.
Actually, in hindsight, this isn't even theological volunteerism. This is utilitarianism/consequentialism. It isn't related to the promotion of vice in character, but to external, material consequences.
Just great, more opinion without any logical argument and even bothering to read the arguments presented here. You bring nothing to the thread except trying to reinforce your own bias and congratulating yourself over your flawless understanding of the world. Congratulations o sage! You have all the answers!
I realize this isn't directed at me, but as someone who criticized my tone early in this thread, and as someone who presumably doesn't appreciate hypocrisy, this is a little ridiculous.
EDIT: Khov asked me to check out his post. I've been swamped with some non-MMA work recently, so I haven't been around that much, but I figured I'd make the appropriate edits to address his post and try to get this rolling again, regardless of whether or not I have time.
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The opening debate introduced one constant that I believe is flawed; which is assuming that seeing evil with the power to stop evil, is in itself evil. I'd like to cite a quick source that proposes a mental state of sadness or depression increases intellectual capacity.
This study implies negativity; ie sadness or depression (malevolence) leads to, or is even the direct causal reason for, progress and inspiration which is inarguably benevolent.
It's not that simple. Here we get into an issue of necessary and sufficient conditions. One can argue that some degree of suffering is causally necessary for producing the "best possible world." One of my professors (who teaches Leibniz; one of the more interesting philosophers to work on this problem) pointed it out rather simply: There is a possible world with the maximum amount of suffering which can be responsible for human progress, where no suffering is
responsible for some sort of progress.
Obviously, this is a utilitarian model of "world assessment," but I've found it pretty compelling. Here's the thing: that property is not a property of the actual world.
Nietzsche (unlike Leibniz, not a Christian) said something to the effect of: "That which doesn't destroy me makes me stronger." That's great. Those things which don't destroy you may occur in the "best of all possible worlds." However, one would presume, then, that those things which might destroy you would be conspicuously absent. In the actual world, there are plenty of things that can destroy you.
I'm not a cynic. I don't think the world is a 'bad' place, where everyone is out to get you. But every year diarrhea kills 1.5 million children under the age of 5. That's not offering inspiration or progress.
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then He is not omnipotent. Is He able, but not willing? Then He is malevolent." This is the line in question because it's assuming a constant I disagree with. God can be able to prevent evil but unwilling, without being malevolent, for other reasons.
If (and only if) you only observe a very limited scope of the 'evil' in the world, you can justify the abstinence of God. Perhaps you can justify the suffering caused by human agents, if you believe in human agency. I don't. That's a metaphysical and ethical position, and I feel like I've defended it reasonably well up to this point.
Even if that isn't the case, though, you still have 1.5 million kids under 5 dying as a result of diarrhea. Are human agents responsible? Only in their failure to act, in which case they are in the same moral category as God. The difference, of course, is that the power of human agents is limited (by time, resources, infrastructure, etc.), while the power of God is not. To allow children to die when one has the means to prevent it, you may not want to apply the term 'evil,' but it is certain disturbing.
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The mission of the lobby J Street is "a two state resolution to the conflict with the Palestinian people." Decried as an anti-Israel lobby by staunch Israel supporters who view the two-state solution as the Arabs' "Final Solution," J Street focuses much of its efforts on reviving the defunct peace talks between the Palestinian Authority and Israel. This relentless focus, combined with J Street's support for US lawmakers with poor records on Israel, have often alienated J Street from mainstream pro-Israel organizations. The obsession with solving supposed Arab grievances has sidelined on-the-ground humanitarian concerns of those living in Israel and particularly in Judea & Samaria, Arabs and Jews alike.
But with the recent visit of J Street to the City of Ariel in Samaria, perhaps a new "peace process" has begun, one that should be a prerequisite to any resolution of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict: the peace process between Jews and Jews. Any resolution with the Arabs that requires or precipitates a diplomatic, intellectual and physical assault on Jews, particularly those living in Judea and Samaria, will simply open up a more dangerous front: Jews battling Jews, Jews uprooting Jews from their homes, Jews hating one another even more.
My colleague at Ariel Development Fund, Avi Zimmerman, has documented what may be the start of this Jewish-Jewish peace process through his blog on Times of Israel about the visit of J Street's campus arm to Ariel. He wonders if J Street U is taking a U turn, writing:
By engaging with the City of Ariel through an unadulterated, boots-on-the-ground, personal encounter, J Street U has taken a giant leap forward on behalf of an organization that may soon need to grapple with the waning prospects that its godfather, Peace Now, has had to face. The more the academic and journalistic communities increasingly concur that the long awaited "two state solution" is doomed to failure, the more J Street will be in need of a new approach. Now, perhaps more than ever, the only way to be "Pro-Israel and Pro-Peace" (their slogan) is to be thoroughly circumspect and sincerely committed to analyzing all angles of our current reality in order to reach a viable conclusion.
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I need to wash the car, but I am Exhaustipated.
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Exhaustipated is the feeling one has when he is so tired he just doesn't give a shit. It was my mother's expression when she put in an exhausting day of work and came in so tired she didn't want to cook, turn the bed down or use the effort to shit.
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> I was wondering if anyone had tried the iMockup for the iPad (wireframe
> tool).
> Is it worth it, or just another thingy? Is the iPad a worth while tool for
> running "any" productive apps, or for more /convenient/ surfing?
There's a small discussion I kicked off a while ago about wireframing
on the iPad[1] that may be of interest.
I now have a copy of iMockups that I've been dipping into here and
there. For fast stuff it's pretty good, but I haven't built anything
complex with it yet. I'll try to get off of my duff this week and
write up some thoughts about it.
In brief, it's not bad, and if you're uneasy about paying the $50 for
Omnigraffle it's a good compromise.
I've been planning to try Keynote out on the iPad as well, as I've
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SLIPPERY ROCK -- Wilmington head coach Terry Yerrelli became District 10's all-time wins leader as Wilmington won a thrilling game in the District 10 Class AA semifinals 10-9 over Greenville in double overtime Saturday night.
After a scoreless regulation and an overtime period which saw the teams exchange 20-yard field goals, Cody Llewellyn gave Wilmington the lead with a 4-yard run. Minutes later, Greenville struck back with a 1-yard run by Cody Nellis. However, the ensuing extra-point attempt failed, sending the Greyhounds to the Class AA championship game against Hickory, which defeated Grove City 35-13 in the other semifinal.
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By: Mic Hernandez on February 20, 2012 - 8:50pm - Add new comment
Man, where do we begin?
Tommy Hanson appears to be OK after an early-morning accident on his way to camp. Moneyball mastermind Billy Beane reached out to supposed PED abuser Manny Ramirez in the form of a minor-league deal that no one knows for sure he'll be in any shape or care enough when his 50-game suspension is over. The Yankees finally got tired of dealing with A.J. Burnett that they shipped him to the Pirates for a pair of low-level minor leaguers. Former Augusta Pirate Tim Wakefield and his knuckleball retired after a 19-year career that saw him win 200 games.
By: Mic Hernandez on February 13, 2012 - 7:34pm - Add new comment
For some baseball fans, just the mere mention of spring training will get people excited. But for a lot of baseball fans, this time of the year also signals the time for fantasy baseball. It gives friends and fantasy foes the chance to discuss anything baseball.
By: Mic Hernandez on February 6, 2012 - 7:01pm - Add new comment
Judging by the tweets and photos last week, the Braves caravan stop at Fort Gordon was a success. With the community stops coming to a close soon, the next stop is sunny Florida and spring training.
By: Mic Hernandez on January 23, 2012 - 7:20pm - Add new comment
Baseball is only weeks away and the excitement is building with hope and a sense of anticipation for what the new year will bring.
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Sitting at work waiting for news to happen during the baseball off-season can be a little like watching paint dry or grass grow. Then when something outlandish does happen, everyone is quick to jump in with their take on which team got the better end of the deal or how will the signing of Player A affect Player B.
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For me, today's announcement of the National Baseball Hall of Fame was the start of baseball season. I know there's more than a month left of football, but being a Falcons fan, you might understand my eagerness to move forward.
Baseball has always been my passion. When I moved to the East Coast from Texas in the late 1980s I discovered TBS and the Atlanta Braves. I also become a huge fan of Dale Murphy. I could never have enough baseball cards of his and was such a fan, I mimicked his batting stance.


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Students of ophthalmology are fortunate that this book has appeared in a new enlarged edition. The general plan and chapter headings remain the same as in earlier editions. The excellent bibliographies that follow each chapter have been brought up to date and constitute a valuable feature of the book. There have been extensive additions to those chapters dealing with subjects in which there has been much investigative work in the past six years. This particularly applies to the chapters on aqueous humor, intraocular pressure, and ocular motility. The author has the faculty of expressing himself clearly and succinctly so that even the most complicated matters appear simple. The format of the book is pleasing and the illustrations are good. This book should be required reading for all students of ophthalmology, clinicians, investigators, and residents.
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Two days ago I missed my flight to San Diego.
My advice is that Frontier used to serve cookies and now their service has gone down the shitter.
Anyway, I am wondering why those stupid minions could not help me get to my flight.
I was there two hours early.
I was pin-balled around and not helped out once.
I am going to San Diego come hell or high water. Excuse, the expression but I am making it this time.
No luggage just my black Marmot bag and my wits.
Who has had the worst problems at the airport.
What I am playing. Zelda the Wind Waker. There is a save file from 2006. Yeesh! That is so crazy to think that the file save is 6 years old.


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Letters to the editor: Bus passengers bypassed
I hope the Erie Metropolitan Transit Authority and Erie Mayor Joe Sinnott's office are happy about stopping buses on State Street. They don't seem to care about the people who depend on the buses every day. EMTA says the changes are being made due to congestion. New York City and Los Angeles have congestion. Erie doesn't have congestion. Most of the time State Street doesn't have much traffic at all.
I would like to know the real reason these changes are being made. I would like to know who was complaining. Is the real reason that because there are a few undesirables, everyone riding the bus is considered an undesirable? I think the real reason there were no public meetings is that those in charge didn't care what the public thought. They had already made up their minds. They didn't want to give their customers a forum to make their voices heard because they just don't care.
This is public transportation; the jobs at EMTA depend on people riding their buses. Yet they go out of their way to make this as difficult as they can. Without bus commuters, you have no bus company, and you have no jobs.
This is just another example of people with power and authority doing what they want and not caring what anyone thinks. I feel bad for the disabled and elderly people who have great difficulty getting around. No consideration has been given to them at all.
I think EMTA's real motto is: "You think we care?" They don't seem to care about anyone except themselves. They should be ashamed.
Robert J. Hiegel Jr.Erie
Religious freedom applies to all
I was distressed to read Ann M. Filutze's recent letter "Are religious freedoms unequal?" (Erie Times-News, May 31). She was concerned about a group of seven men, presumably Muslim, who were praying at an Ohio Turnpike rest area. Her understanding was that a permit should have been obtained by these men to say their prayers.
Really? Why would a permit be required for seven people traveling together on the interstate who stopped to pray? I wonder if the writer would have had the same concerns had these men had clergy collars and crosses, or if they were nuns with rosary beads. Or how about a group of Jewish men with yarmulkes or Buddhist monks in robes and bare feet? Or a family holding hands around a tree?
What has happened to our religious freedoms? Nothing! That is why a group of seven men can say their prayers, in public, and not be concerned about the government interfering with their right to do so. Our country was founded for religious freedom for Christians; now we celebrate religious freedom for many religions, and even for those who have no religion. The Bill of Rights protects the rights of all of us, not just those with whom we agree or are comfortable.
Leigh W. KostisBoard president, Unitarian Universalist Congregation of Erie
'Critical thinker' quick to criticize
This letter is in response to S.J. Sullivan's letter, in which he wrote that disinterest in critical thinking "is one of the significant dangers of organized religion. Fortunately, there are religious denominations, such as Unitarian Universalism, in which critical thinking is valued and emphasized" ("Reflections draw comments," Erie Times-News, June 2).
Well, well, how satisfying it is to be a self-congratulatory, backslapping "critical thinker" dwelling in a church of critical thinkers. According to Sullivan, other people in other churches with other faiths just do not measure up. It appears that there is a downside to critical thinking, especially in how other people in other churches are critically thought of.
J.L. DeckerErie
Don't forget attack on USS Liberty
On June 8, 1967, during the Six Day War between Israel and the Arab states, the American intelligence ship USS Liberty was attacked for more than 75 minutes by Israeli aircraft and motor torpedo boats. Liberty was left with more than 820 rocket and cannon holes, suffered a 40-foot torpedo hole and was burned from napalm.
Armed only with four 50-caliber machine guns, Liberty was not able to defend itself. Out of a crew of 294 aboard, 174 were wounded and 34 were murdered.
After 46 years, it's way past time for the truth about this atrocity perpetuated by the United States' "closest ally and best friend in the Middle East" to be revealed. Americans should never forget this treachery.
It is time again to remember the USS Liberty.
George ShahinAshtabula, Ohio
EMTA isn't held accountable
Moving the buses off State Street to Peach and French makes no sense. The whole point of a public transit system is to take people where they need to go. The two main reasons people take the bus downtown are to transfer or to go places on State Street. A person trying to transfer east or west now will have to walk two blocks. That isn't easy with a couple of kids in tow.
And what about people in wheelchairs or who use walkers or canes? And Mayor Joe Sinnott supports the idea! His excuse that it will help mitigate congestion on State Street is absurd. The buses were running on State Street before the current design was put in place. State Street is made for bus traffic. This is a perfect example of why unaccountable authorities like the Erie Metropolitan Transit Authority are a bad idea.
Brandon MagoonErie
Editor's note: EMTA officials said they have sought to make special accommodations so people won't have to make a two-block walk for transfers. Fees for so-called "ride-arounds" have been eliminated, so riders can remain on a southbound bus until it heads north and vice versa.
Closing schools hurts home values
A real estate agent once told me that one of the most valuable assets in the valuation of a home is the existence of a neighborhood school, especially an elementary school.
If the Millcreek School Board closes Ridgefield and Vernondale elementary schools, the homeowners in those school areas will be able to request a reduction of between 15 and 25 percent in their home assessments because the asset of a neighborhood school is no longer there.
This decline in tax revenue will not be offset in the other neighborhood school areas because the value of a nearby school is already included in their assessment. How much is that going to increase the school district's debt?
Jim FlynnErie
Arrests raise trust issues
If any of the city workers accused of theft are convicted and retain their jobs, I will do my best not to ever pay a tax in the city again ("City workers charged," Erie Times-News, May 29).
It seems that anything being paid off the backs of the taxpayer in the city of Erie is being stolen or misused.
By the way, what happened to the person who stole the money paid for fines at the police department? Does anybody know?
William KingErie


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Hydraulic Presses by Ino, Battenfeld, Fjellman & Diffenbacher upto 2000 Tons
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Private Sale Auctions | Tagged - Hydraulic presses, milling machine, paint lines,
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Live and Webcast Auction of Late Model Stamping Presses, Coil Feed Lines, Machine Tools, Welding Cells, Forklifts & Support Equipment due to plant closure
On-Location plus Webcast Auctions | Tagged - stamping presses, machine tools, forklifts, welding equipment,
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Online Auction for over 100 lots of printing equipment and office furniture. Items include offset and reel-fed offset printing presses, folding machines, collators, huge amount of paper, office furnit ...
Online Auctions | Tagged - folding machines, printing presses, office furniture, printing equipment,
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Equipment available includes CNC Press Brakes, Fork Lift Truck & General Fabricating Equipment. ...
Online Auctions | Tagged - cnc press brakes, fork lift truck, fabricating equipment,
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