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If you've hung out on a pool deck recently, it's no secret that cruising has become hugely popular with families. The number of children onboard is growing steadily, and more than 2 million kids younger than 15 sailed on cruise lines in 2013, according to the Cruise Lines International Association. Yet, despite the great strides made by cruise lines in accommodating children onboard, choosing the best cruise for your family is still complicated. Where once it was a struggle to find ships that were kid-friendly, the challenge now is wading through the bevy of activities, kids clubs, and child-themed bells and whistles many of the newer ships offer to determine which cruise ships are best for your youngsters.
Despite the advancements, some ships are still better for infants than others, and ditto for teens. Not all itineraries are created equal, either. (Alaska and the Caribbean are destinations that tend to be kid-friendly.) To make decisions even trickier, ships vary greatly, not just from line to line but within fleets, making some better than others in terms of onboard activities. We tend to recommend cruise lines' newer ships because the facilities were designed for families from the outset, not just adapted.
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Onboard programs and facilities for families continue to expand. Here are a few interesting evolutions:
More attention and space for teens and tweens. While many lines previously grouped all teens (ages 13 to 17) together, most new ships are giving tweens (ages 12 to 14) their own facilities. Teens-only programs incorporate a range of shipwide options, from spa treatments to shore excursions, and most programs allow them to come and go freely.
Ships are catering to multigenerational families. In addition to creating better spaces just for kids, lines are paying more attention to adults-only and quiet areas in an effort to woo extended families. There's a good reason for that. Multigenerational cruising continues to be a major draw, and lines can't do enough to keep up.
Family staterooms and suites are within reach of more families. Many cruise lines building new ships have designed their vessels to incorporate more family accommodations. Norwegian, Royal Caribbean, Carnival and Disney all have cabins that sleep five or six passengers.
"Megaship" has taken on a new meaning. Bigger ships offer more space, more activities and some pretty amazing features that would have seemed unthinkable several years ago. Where rock walls and miniature golf once seemed an extravagance, kids now have access to bowling alleys, elaborate water parks with massive slides, ropes courses, bumper cars, surfing simulators and outdoor movies.
Entertainment has been taken to a new level with themed cruises. Families can opt for a "DreamWorks experience" on Royal Caribbean (Oasis of the Seas, Allure of the Seas, Freedom of the Seas, Liberty of the Seas, Mariner of the Seas and Voyager of the Seas), during which they'll get to meet characters like Shrek and Po (the Kung Fu Panda). Likewise, Norwegian offers Nickelodeon-themed cruises on Norwegian Breakaway, Norwegian Epic, Norwegian Gem, Norwegian Getaway and Norwegian Jewel. Carnival is adding Seuss at Sea to several ships.
More outdoor spaces on newer ships are ideal for families. Newer ships like Norwegian Breakaway, Norwegian Getaway and Royal Princess have more outdoor casual dining options, and outdoor play areas are being added to all of the kids clubs on Royal Princess.
Dining options and times for families are increasing. When you're traveling with kids, set dining times and show times can be tough. Ships are accommodating families with more flexible dining times, and special menus for tykes are offered in a variety of dining venues.
Compiling these picks was a bit like splitting hairs. Picking the best cruise isn't simply a matter of settling on a line but also looking at particular ships because vessels can vary widely within fleets. "The newer, the better" is often a useful mantra for choosing family-friendly ships ... but not always. The oldest Disney ship is arguably better suited to families than the newest Celebrity ship.
And, while these are the ships -- and cruise lines -- we've picked, we will conclude with this caveat: You know your family's tastes and preferences better than we ever could. By no means are they the only ships to consider. Think of them as a starting point.
Royal Caribbean International
Ships: Allure of the Seas and Oasis of the Seas
Why: These ships, Royal Caribbean's largest, are ideal for families with kids of all ages, as well as multigenerational family groups. Oasis and Allure have an impressive display of family-friendly activities and entertainment -- four fantastic pools, 10 hot tubs, a 3D theater, rock-climbing walls, ice-skating rink, two FlowRider surf simulators and a zip line -- and an array of family cabins to accommodate groups of varying sizes. And did we mention the ships' indoor promenades, which feature all manner of parades and special events? A sizeable amount of real estate is dedicated to the kids clubs, and the counselors are some of the friendliest and most engaging in the business. Parents and grandparents can enjoy adults-only Solariums and a plethora of dining and evening entertainment options. With nursery care, after-hours fun in the kids clubs and in-cabin baby-sitting, adults can enjoy grownup time in the evenings while kids play or sleep. (Voyager- and Freedom-class ships are also great choices for families.)
The Program: Royal Caribbean divides kids into Aquanauts (ages 3 to 5), Explorers (6 to 8) and Voyagers (9 to 11). Kids from ages 12 to 14 can take part in "open mic" karaoke contests and rock wall challenges, while members of the oldest group (15 to 17) have their own toga parties and sports competitions. Both tweens and teens have access to a separate teen lounge, where they can come and go as they like. The Royal Tots and Royal Babies programs provide interactive classes and activities (when children are accompanied by a parent) for children from 6 months to 36 months old, as well as drop-off baby-sitting services. In-cabin baby-sitting is available for children who are at least 1 year old. Excellent Broadway-style shows in the evenings will keep the older crowd engaged, while the DreamWorks experience offers character breakfasts, parades and meet-and-greets for little ones.
The Facilities: Royal Caribbean's kids clubs are among the largest dedicated kids facilities in cruising. The children's section on Oasis-class ships h2s more than 28,700 square feet and is the largest of its kind. There's a toddlers-only splash pool, an arts and crafts workshop, a video arcade and computer stations. Oasis-class ships also have a theater and Science Lab, and teens will love the Fuel nightclub and the Living Room, a coffeehouse-style hangout.
Other Nifty Features: Johnny Rockets, the 1950s-style luncheonette, is always a kid magnet (and parents think it's pretty cool, too). There's a DJ Academy for teens, and budding artists will be thrilled with Royal Caribbean's partnership with Crayola, which brings all the newest and coolest art supplies onboard. DreamWorks-themed cruises are available on both ships, and kids can meet characters like Shrek and the Kung Fu Panda, Po. Of note, when Quantum of the Seas launches in the fall of 2014, it will feature an exciting and family-friendly SeaPlex with bumper cars, a circus school and interactive sea pods loaded with a variety of games.
Plenty of family staterooms and loft suites mean room for the family to spread out. There's even a Royal Family cabin that sleeps eight. The spa offers special treatments for teens. More than two dozen dining options, including casual eateries like a hot dog joint and a Mexican cantina, as well as a variety of upscale specialty restaurants, mean no taste is overlooked.
Norwegian Cruise LineShips: Norwegian Breakaway, Norwegian Getaway and Norwegian Epic
Why: Norwegian's Freestyle Cruising and casual atmosphere make it a great choice for families with kids of any age, particularly those who don't want to be beholden to strict dining times and venues. Norwegian's newest ships, along with Norwegian Epic, offer all the mega-ship bells and whistles families have come to expect.
The Program: Norwegian's Splash Academy features separate activities for kids ages 3 to 5, 6 to 9 and 10 to 12. Children can do arts and crafts, sing karaoke and play video games. Epic's facility has a jungle gym, plenty of room to roam and a cool interactive light-up dance floor. The two-story Splash Academy, found on both Breakaway and Getaway, is the line's largest children's space at sea, home to high-tech games, a circus school and a small cinema. Lower-level activities are divided for age groups 3 to 5 and 6 to 9, while kids 10 to 12 occupy the upper level of the club. Entourage is a space for teens 13 to 17, and it has air hockey, video games, plush couches and flat-screen TVs. Entourage turns into a teens-only nightclub at night. Both ships have small nursery play areas for babies 6 months to 2 years, where parents can come and interact with their children. Late-night group baby-sitting is available for a fee.
The Facilities: Popular activities on both ships include rock-climbing and rappelling walls, climbing cages, six bowling lanes and impressive water-park areas. Epic has a 303-foot-long corkscrew tube and the Drainpipe, a 104-foot tube that empties into a giant funnel. Breakaway and Getaway have five multistory waterslides, as well as The Plank, an 8-foot walk that extends off the edge of the ship and out over the sea. All three have two main pools, including a separate kids pool, and Breakaway and Getaway have a Nickelodeon-themed splash area for younger kids atop the ship.
Other Nifty Features: Norwegian Epic hosts Blue Man Group, a great show for kids of all ages. All three ships offer a "Nickelodeon at Sea" program in which kids can meet (and eat breakfast with) characters like SpongeBob SquarePants and take part in family game shows. Epic also has 46 two-bedroom family villas that sleep up to six people, while Breakaway and Getaway have 20 two-bedroom villas.
Carnival Cruise LinesShips: Carnival Breeze and Carnival Sunshine
Why: Carnival Cruise Line's newest Dream-class ship, Carnival Breeze, and its newly refurbished Carnival Sunshine offer an array of onboard fun and do a great job accommodating kids of all ages, with separate clubs for the 2 to 11 set, tweens (12 to 14) and teens. The ships offer a terrific variety of family activities and spaces, plus top-notch kids clubs. Families will make good use of two outdoor pools on Breeze and one on Sunshine and some of the largest at-sea water parks. The rest of the Dream-class ships (Carnival Dream and Carnival Magic) are good for families as well.
The Program: Camp Carnival is divided into two parts: ages 2 to 5 (Toddlers) are on one side, and two other groups -- for ages 6 to 8 (Juniors ) and 9 to 11 (Intermediates) -- are on the other. Toddlers have sing-alongs, dabble in arts and crafts and take part in coloring and drawing contests. Juniors play Disney trivia, paint T-shirts and participate in games. Intermediates take part in talent shows and scavenger hunts. Circle C pre-teens (12 to 14) and Club O2 teens (15 to 17) have their own spaces, and kids have access to regular dance and pool parties, special teens-only shore excursions and PlayStation and Xbox consoles.
The Facilities: Camp Carnival occupies a good portion of Deck 11, while the tween and teen clubs are separate from the little ones on Deck 4 on the Dream-class ships. On Carnival Sunshine, the entire area is located on Deck 10. A huge draw for kids on both ships is WaterWorks, an aqua park with a variety of waterslides, sprayers, soakers and even a dump bucket. Kids can play in the pool, as well as SportSquare, an outdoor activity area with a mini-golf course, basketball courts and foosball tables. A SplashZone for younger kids also is on offer.
Other Nifty Features: Watch movies outside on the Dream-class ships at the Seaside Theatre, a 22-foot jumbo screen. On Sunshine, as well as the Dream-class vessels kids can cavort on a deceptively scary ropes course while mom and dad inch along, and all can take part in Carnival's "Hasbro, The Game" show, a friendly competition and stage show with games as prizes. The Dream-class ships also have more (and larger) cabin choices for families. Teens are welcome in Carnival's spas.
Disney Cruise LineShips: Disney Dream, Disney Fantasy and Disney Magic
Why: Disney ships are ideal for families with kids ages 4 to 11, as Disney has the best facilities, dining schemes and programs for this age group. With the launch of its newest ships, Disney Dream and Disney Fantasy, and complete refurbishment of its oldest ship, Disney Magic, Disney Cruise Line has also done a lot more to accommodate tweens and teens -- but its ships still hold the most appeal for the younger set.
The Program: Disney takes a separate-but-together approach to its kids programming, mainly to accommodate siblings and friends traveling together. The Oceaneer Club and Oceaneer Lab allow children from 3 to 12 to access the same spaces but with programming separated in two- and three-year increments. On all three ships, the Oceaneer Club offers several themed play areas, including Andy's Room (from "Toy Story"). On Fantasy and Dream, you'll find the Laugh Floor (from "Monsters, Inc."), while on Magic you'll encounter Marvel's Avengers Academy, a S.H.I.E.L.D. command post, where kids can interact with the Avengers through a virtual game The Oceaneer Lab has an Animator's Studio and a mini sound studio. Cool additions to both spaces are Magic Play floors, which allow kids to use their feet to play interactive games. There is a for-fee nursery available to care for little ones, ages 3 months to 3 years.
These ships also have a kids club dedicated entirely to tweens, ages 11 to 14, with video games, karaoke and computers. The teen club, Vibe (ages 14 to 17), has modular furniture and a coffee shop feel.
The Facilities: Mickey's Pool, for the youngest cruisers, is on one side of the ship, and an adults-only pool is located on the other, with Donald's Pool in the center for families or general use. The popular AquaDuck waterslide is a big hit with families on Fantasy and Dream, while the AquaDunk thrills onboard Disney Magic. On Fantasy and Magic, the AquaLab has sprayers and geysers perfect for the smallest passengers. Other great facilities include the Walt Disney Theatre, which features shows and movies, and D Lounge, which presents interactive activities for kids and parents.
Other Nifty Features: The bath-and-a-half in most staterooms allows folks to shower in one while someone else is using the toilet in the other. Castaway Cay, Disney's private Bahamian island, is one of the industry's nicest. Disney Dream and Disney Magic also hold a cool "Pirates of the Caribbean" deck party, complete with fireworks and Jack Sparrow rappelling off the ship's funnel. Disney Fantasy has a Muppets-themed mystery game and the Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique, where little girls are transformed into princesses.
Princess CruisesShips: Royal Princess, Ruby Princess, Crown Princess and Emerald Princess
Why: Princess' ships were designed with families in mind, and they include expansive programs, facilities and accommodations for parents and children. Princess's newest and largest ship, Royal Princess, set sail in June 2013 with even more great additions for families, including expanded kids club spaces, more dining options, a batting cage and laser shooting range, a bigger pool deck with a water and light show, and poolside cabanas. (A sister ship to Royal Princess, Regal Princess, will set sail in summer 2014.)
The Program: We love the activities offered to Princess Pelicans (ages 3 to 7), including arts and crafts like T-shirt painting, dance parties, air hockey (on Royal Princess) and a variety of games. Shockwaves (8 to 12) are entertained with scavenger hunts and science programs geared to the region where the ship sails (learning about coral reefs, for instance). This age group can also take part in a junior chef program. Remix (13 to 17) features dance parties, dance lessons, foosball and Skee-ball (on Royal Princess), shipboard Olympics and karaoke. Princess offers an Adventures Ashore tour program with shore excursions appropriate for families.
The Facilities: On Grand-class ships (Ruby Princess, Crown Princess, Emerald Princess), the Fun Zone is 10,000 square feet, with spaces for games and sports tournaments, as well as quiet spots to read and nap. There's also a splash pool dedicated to kids. Royal Princess has a new space within the kids club for kids 3 and younger, where parents can come to play with their children. Royal Princess also has a new outdoor play area with a jungle gym for kids ages 3 to 7, another for kids ages 8 to 12 (complete with lounge chairs and outdoor games) and a third for teens with a teens-only wading pool and space for outdoor parties.
Other Nifty Features: Princess Cruises gives folks the opportunity to choose between traditional cruise dining (same table, same time each night) or anytime dining (flexible dining between 5:30 p.m. and 10 p.m.). The poolside cinema features kid-friendly matinees. Princess also teamed with Klutz to offer an array of arts-and-crafts projects, such as building storybooks, weaving friendship bracelets and making lanyards.
P&O CruisesShips: Ventura
Why: When P&O Cruises launched Ventura in April 2008, the line took a step away from the traditional British cruisers who make up the majority of its passengers and decided to reach out to families. With an expansive area at the aft of the ship dedicated to kids and the first circus school at sea, it's a great ship on which to take the youngsters for their first cruise.
The Program: We love the fact that Ventura has the biggest kids club on any P&O ship. The Reef contains separate rooms for those between the ages of 2 and 17. They're divided by age into the following: Splashers (2 to 4), Surfers (5 to 8), Scubas (9 to 12) and H2O (13 to 17). Each room (well, for the younger kids, anyway) is filled with bright, colorful play areas (some have ball pits) and tiny decorated computer desks on which the kids can learn and play. P&O has also brought children's characters Noddy and Mr. Bump onboard to entertain.
The Facilities: In addition to ample space set aside for kids clubs, families will love Ventura's four pools (plus a small dip pool outside the kids club) and six hot tubs. There's a large sports court with tennis, cricket, basketball and golf nets. In the evenings, older children can take part in talent shows and also a teens rock school in show lounge Havana. With 12 restaurants and Freedom Dining available (no set times or venues), families have plenty of flexibility. A small library offers board games, which can help entertain you on rainy days at sea.
Other Nifty Features: Be sure to head up to Deck 19. There, you'll find Cirque Ventura, where you (and the kids, of course) can try a bungee trampoline or join a workshop to learn trapeze and tightrope-walking. Ventura also has the fleet's first family cabins. A children's tea is served in the Beach House from 5 to 10 p.m., but it moves to Waterside on themed buffet evenings.
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'Social Network' star Jesse Eisenberg raises 'Hell' with Lions Gate in $3 mil lawsuit
Oscar-nominated actor Jesse Eisenberg ("The Social Network", "30 Minutes or Less", "Zombieland") is suing Lionsgate Entertainment over a low-budget horror film entitled "Camp Hell", alleging that the film's DVD cover art makes him out to be the star of the film when in reality he has only a five-minute cameo.
"As a favor to friends, who were producing and directing a low budget horror film called 'Camp Hell', Eisenberg agreed to perform for one day on the film in a small cameo role for minimal compensation," reads the $3 million lawsuit (an amount equal to the reported budget of the film) that was filed in Los Angeles Superior Court by attorney Marty Singer.
"Although Eisenberg appears onscreen for less than five minutes," it continues, "the distributors of 'Camp Hell', Defendants Lions Gate Entertainment and Grindstone Entertainment Group, are now attempting to fraudulently deceive and mislead the public and reap millions of dollars by capitalizing on Eisenberg's newfound fame and popularity by falsely advertising 'Camp Hell' as a horror film starring Jesse Eisenberg. Eisenberg is bringing this lawsuit in order to warn his fans and the public that, contrary to the manner in which Defendants are advertising the film, Eisenberg is not the star of and does not appeiu in a prominent role in 'Camp Hell', but instead has a cameo role in 'Camp Hell'."
The story was first reported by RumorFix.
Eisenberg allegedly received only $3,000 for his five-minute role in the movie, which was originally (and hilariously) titled "Camp Hope". Given a limited theatrical release in August 2010 before going to DVD earlier this year, the film centers on a group of fundamentalist Christian children who are confronted with an unspeakable evil while attending a retreat in the woods.
Written and directed by George VanBuskirk (who produced the excellent 2002 independent film "Roger Dodger" co-starring Eisenberg and who we can assume is no longer on friendly terms with the actor), "Camp Hell" also stars Will Denton, Emmy Award-winning actress Dana Delany (!), Academy Award-nominated actor Bruce Davison (!!) and "Mannequin" star Andrew McCarthy.
Do you think Eisenberg has a point here, or has he gone too far in trying to protect his now-higher-profile image? Check out the DVD cover art for yourself below and then let us know what you think in the comments!

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Teams that live by the 3 typically die by the 3.
Charleston Southern entered Wednesday night's Big South Conference matchup with Coastal Carolina as the nation's second best 3-point shooting team, averaging nearly 9.5 3-pointers per game.
However, the shooting touch was nowhere to be found on Wednesday as the Buccaneers struggled from long range and were beaten badly on the boards as well. Coastal Carolina defeated CSU for the seventh straight time, running away with a 73-53 win in Conway.
The margin of defeat was the worst this season for CSU (12-8, 7-2).
Coastal Carolina improved to 11-10 overall and 6-4 in Big South play, while CSU (dropped its second straight game after an eight-game winning streak. Coastal Carolina outrebounded CSU, 47-27.
"We played a bad game and they kicked us in every way," said CSU coach Barclay Radebaugh. "We got whipped. We got outplayed and outcoached. We just played bad."
Sophomore guard Arlon Harper led CSU with 21 points, while Mathiang Muo added 10. Charleston Southern shot 31 percent from the floor for the game.
Warren Gillis led Coastal Carolina with 19 points, while Anthony Raffa added 17 and Kierre Greenwood 16.
CSU missed 10 consecutive 3-pointers during one stretch and made only 6 of 32 attempts. The Buccaneers did not make their first 3-pointer of the second half until there were less than six minutes remaining in the game.
Harper scored 10 of CSU's first 13 points and tied the game on a 3-pointer with under nine minutes left in the first half. Coastal Carolina, however, responded with a 19-10 run and held a 37-23 halftime lead.
CSU would cut the lead to 10 at 42-32 in the first five minutes of the second half, but the Chanticleers pulled away with a 15-0 run, taking a 57-32 lead.
Muo and Sexton hit back-to-back 3-pointers to bring CSU within 13 with 2:17 remaining, but the Bucs could get no closer as Coastal Carolina converted its free throws down the stretch.
Charleston Southern, which fell a half-game out of first place in the South Division behind UNC Asheville, will host Campbell at 5:30 p.m. Saturday.
"We have lost two in a row — now let's see how we respond," said Radebaugh. "Saturday is an important game for us. We can play like a champion or we will lay down. With this team, I think we will play like a champion, but I am anxious to see how we come out."


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Sucker Punch, a barrage of green-screen effects and comic-book portentousness from 300 and Watchmen director Zack Snyder, is hands-down the most nightmarishly awful film of the year. A field day for schoolgirl fetishists and fanboys with a penchant for steampunk (but with Snyder's leaden dialogue, you've got to call it steamclunk), this staggering failure borrows from Baz Luhrmann's Moulin Rouge, Marc Caro and Jean-Pierre Jeunet's The City of Lost Children, Quentin Tarantino's Kill Bill, and a variety of psych-ward melodramas from The Snake Pit to The Uninvited.
If that sounds like it'd make for a cool mash-up, maybe it would have - if Snyder had anything on his mind apart from exploding zeppelins, fire-breathing dragons, Japanese samurai fights, and Carla Gugino doing a campy Polish accent. One of the creepier aspects of the plot - if you can call this ricocheting pastiche a plot - is that Baby Doll (Emily Browning), the sorry lass who has been committed to Lennox House for the Mentally Insane by her sleazeball stepdad, is set to have a frontal lobotomy.


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Brad Renfro's girlfriend told a 911 operator that she thought the 25-year-old actor "might have taken a couple pills," according to a recording of the call released Wednesday.
The woman, who found his body on Jan. 15, tells the operator: "We're not sure if he's breathing or not. His nose is bleeding. ... We can't tell if he's breathing."
The Los Angeles County Coroner's office announced Friday that Renfro, who starred in The Client, had died of an accidental heroin overdose.
In the 911 call, when asked by the operator what happened, Renfro's girlfriend responds, "I'm not sure. I mean, I think he might have taken a couple of pills last night. ... He had an audition at 1 o'clock this afternoon. I've been trying to wake him up to get ready, and he just won't move."
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If you ride buses in Philadelphia, you may have seen the ad at SEPTA bus shelters.
If you haven't seen the ad before, look at it closely below, decide what you think - then read on.
At the bus shelter at Broad and Callowhill Sts., reactions went something like this:
Woman No. 1: It's about friendship, because they are children. Although with Benetton (the Italian sportswear manufacturer) you never know . . .
Man: The black child's hair looks terrible. It looks like the devil - or (the old "Our Gang" character) Buckwheat.


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... DE Grant Wistrom stays healthy and provides the edge-rushing presence the Seahawks' defense so desperately needs? Wistrom only played in 9 games last season, and the defense was noticeably better with him in the line up. He not only has a high-energy motor that occupies opposing teams 'ace' tackles (normally the left tackle with right handed QB's), but he also is very good at dropping back into disguised zone coverage to disrupt the passing lanes with his 6'4" frame and long wingspan. Prior to 2004, the fewest games he played in was thirteen in his rookie season in St. Louis -- so hopefully his injury-marred inaugural campaign in Seattle was an anomaly. Something tells me that Wistrom will have a fire in the pit of his stomach to validate the $14 million signing bonus he received. Wistrom will never be a high sack-total guy, but his relentless pursuit of "quarterback flank steak" draws the attention of an offensive line -- and opens up angles and gaps for the other defenders.
the presence of LT Walter Jones in training camp allows the offense to gel earlier? It's no secret that the Seahawks usually tiptoe out of the gate offensively at the beginning of the season, and how much of that is attributable to the fragmented line situation during camp? This will be Jones' first camp since 2001. Having big #71 in Cheney allows the whole line to start playing together right away, instead of waiting until the first weeks of the regular season to find their footing. As long as someone tells Jones how to find the camp, I think his presence will help considerably. It also spares the versatile Pork Chop Womack from having to cover the left tackle position during camp, allowing him to concentrate on fighting for a starting job at RG or RT. Jones will also assume an on-site mentorship role for rookies C Chris Spencer and OT Ray Willis, who can watch him ply his trade on the field instead of having to read about it in the history books. With Jones in place throughout camp, the Seahawks will be better prepared for a tough task to start the regular season -- a road game at Jacksonville to tangle with the Jaguars' feisty defense, ranked #11 in the league last season.
...previous #1 draft picks realize their potential? WR Koren Robinson, TE Jerramy Stevens and DT Marcus Tubbs have not played like first-round picks. It's a bit premature to assess Tubbs, who only played in eleven games and had family issues (the passing of his mother) weighing him down. But the court of public opinion is in session on Robinson and Stevens. Robinson's 2004 was one he'd like to forget -- only 31 catches and 495 yards -- and he only played in ten games due to a league suspension for substance abuse, as well as individual discipline from head coach Mike Holmgren -- his most ardent supporter. The Seahawks' offense needs a viable playmaking threat to open up the seams of defenses, but he has not filled that task. Robinson has not had a reception of 40+ yards since the 2002 season, and has NEVER had more than one touchdown catch in a game. Simply put, that is not "#1 WR" production. Meanwhile, Stevens shows improvement (setting career highs in receptions and yards), but he has yet to justify being a top draft pick. He has the physical presence (6'7", 250 pounds) and the soft hands to wreak havoc in the red zone.
...defensive coordinator Ray Rhodes trusts the bodies he puts on the field to fulfill their job tasking? The soft zone/loose defensive back coverage and habitually ineffective blitzes he employed in 2004 made the defense ripe for the picking. After a solid start (albeit against questionable offensive teams), the defense progressively sank towards a season-ending #26 ranking. To be fair, the injuries the unit sustained (mostly to Wistrom and LB's Chad Brown and Anthony Simmons) were a prime catalyst, but Rhodes frustrated the fan base with poor in-game adjustments and a reluctance to tinker with the mechanics of his game plan. The silver lining was the rapid development of SS Michael Boulware, who emphatically answered the question as to whether he could make the switch from college linebacker to pro safety with 5 interceptions (two game savers, including a touchdown return to seal the Miami game). Rhodes has the nucleus of one of the top secondaries in the league, with Boulware, CB Marcus Trufant, FS Ken Hamlin and free agent additions, CB Andre Dyson (Titans) and CB Kelly Herndon (Broncos). Now he just needs to find a way to help these guys with a consistent, determined pass rush. The Seahawks defense MUST find a way to collapse the pocket, because all the changes on defense will be for naught if opposing quarterbacks have enough time to steam a latte during pass plays.
...head coach Mike Holmgren reinvents himself and breathes some innovation into his playbook? There's no questioning Holmgren's offensive mind, but he looked criminally stale at times last season. How many delayed draw plays on 3rd and long did he call? How many short yardage runs met their demise at the line of scrimmage? The playbook did not feature many new plays or variations, and in fact it became fairly easy to predict what play would be called based on formation and Holmgren's track record. The coach needs to do some fine tuning -- nothing drastic, mind you -- just an occasional step off the beaten path. He also needs to even the score with Rams head coach Mike Martz, who has found a way to eviscerate the Seahawks during the Rams four-game winning streak against Seattle. Holmgren needs to figure out a way to beat the Rams, as much for the mental lift as the net result in the NFC West standings.
...the wide receivers stop dropping so many passes (enough to finish in the top-5 in the league the last two seasons in that notorious category)? New president Tim Ruskell seems to think it's a problem -- even as the receivers themselves down play the impact the drops have on offensive rhythm -- as he inked veteran "hands" guys WR Joe Jurevicius (Bucs) and WR Jerome Pathon (Saints). The Seahawks will start training camp with eleven WR's on the roster, and I sense that the dropsies won't be acceptable anymore; comp etition breeds competence. I credit QB Matt Hasselbeck with keeping his chin held high the last few seasons, when his final statistics could have been so much better without all the butter fingered hot potato shenanigans. Fittingly, the Seahawks season ended with a Hasselbeck pass sailing through WR Bobby Engram's hands. The Seahawks receivers need to stow the "Aw, shucks, everybody drops passes" attitude and take it personally that the league and media pundits consistently point out how inconsistent they have been. Were the Seahawks' receivers listening when Rams WR Torry Holt called them out AGAIN on national TV during the recent draft? Despite suffering through another spot of the drops last season, WR Darrell Jackson set career highs with 87 catches and 1199 yards. He also exhibited a level of play commensurate with a #1 wideout in the big road win at Minnesota late in the season (10 catches, 135 yards, a TD days after his father passed away) as well as the playoff game against the Rams (12 catches, 128 yards, TD).
...the young MLB's develop into a solid combination? LB Niko Koutouvides and rookie LB's Lofa Tatupu and Cornelius Wortham will be entrusted to slam shut the long-term revolving door (featuring the likes of George Koonce, Levon Kirk land, Randall Godfrey and Orlando Huff, who is now an Arizona Cardinal). There were rumors that they even considered Steelers Hall of Famer Jack Lambert for the job, even though he is 54-years old. Although the "Mike" position is a bit overrated in the scheme Rhodes employs (only because of the number of "pass happy" teams the Seahawks face and consequently, the number of 'passing downs' the nickel defense plays), the Seahawks need a reliable gap plugger to anchor the center of the defense and dominate at the point of attack in run defense. Veteran free agent pick-up LB Jamie Sharper (Texans) looks to take over the strong side slot vacated by the recently released (and oft-injured) Brown last month, and his veteran leadership should help out the young guys. Sharper has experience playing on a Super Bowl champion (the 2001 Baltimore Ravens), and you can never have enough of those players on a young defense. LB D.D. Lewis also returns to the field after missing the entire 2004 season with a shoulder injury, and he will compete with LB Solomon Bates and rookie LB LeRoy Hill (Clemson) for the weak side starting gig.
...the special teams unit actually is special? Last season, they were anything but "special" -- not a single blocked punt, kick, or return touchdown the entire season. Add to that problems with covering on-side kicks (an issue which led directly to the improbable last minute 43-39 loss to Dallas ) and it's no surprise that the unit has a new maestro, Bob Casullo. Casullo will have his special teams gunner back in the mix, WR Alex Bannister, who only played in 7 games last year due to a broken clavicle after going to the Pro Bowl as a special teamer following the 2003 season. His presence was sorely missed, and Casullo will be lucky to have him back at full strength. Already, in the first mini-camp just completed, the Seahawks coaching staff is looking to rectify the kick return issue. Undrafted rookie Marquis Weeks, Pathon and even #2 QB Seneca Wallace all got a look. Engram averaged 11.8 yards per punt return last season, and RB Maurice Morris managed only 21.1 yards per kick return. Overall, the Seahawks were #22 in the NFL in kick return average and #22 in punt return average. The latter -- combined with a ranking of #30 in their own punt yardage -- means the Seahawks offense had a longer field to operate on, while the defense had a shorter patch of territory to defend. That's not a good combination. Incumbent P Donnie Jones and veteran free agent acquisition P Leo Araguz will compete with upstart P Ryan Dutton, who is currently booming punts across the Atlantic in NFL Europe.
...the "character" movement enacted by Ruskell bears fruit? Ruskell will never be accused of being bashful. He has made wholesale roster changes since taking over for Bob Whitsitt, who was fired. The dearly departed include Brown, Simmons, RT Chris Terry and SS Damien Robinson. While some of those moves surprised the fan base, Ruskell looked at what the team was getting as far as games played (Brown) as well as sidebar issues (Simmons/Terry) and made the hard decisions. The list of new acquisitions is as long as Mt. Rainier is high, and it features names that are not glossy nor sexy but who will work hard, seamlessly integrate with the existing personalities, and offer up a challenge for playing time. Jurevicius, Pathon, DE Bryce Fisher (Rams), LB Kevin Bentley (Browns) and DT Chartric "Chuck" Darby (Bucs) all fit the mold of the seed change Ruskell is trying to grow. There is no statistical model available to measure how heart, desire and team chemistry compares to a collection of individually solid players.
Overall, of course, the talent level is not the question with the Seahawks. What has to happen is for that talent to translate into productivity on the field and less drama off of it.
So...that's not asking a lot, right? "What if" all of the aforementioned comes to fruition? Then you might just have yourselves a good football team. A very, very good football team. Optimism abounds in the off-season, at least until the first 17-point 4th quarter lead is squandered or the first star player suffers a season ending injury. But worry about all that in September.
What if the Seahawks finally win that elusive playoff game (gulp)? Or if the planets align and the franchise earns its first trip to the Super Bowl (gasp)? There may not be anything left on the slate to complain about.
Greg Renick is a writer for www.talkhawks.com, and his articles are syndicated to Seahawks.NET. Feel free to contact Greg at firstname.lastname@example.com.


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|January 17, 2007, 02:02 PM
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|January 18, 2007, 01:52 AM
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Hello Everyone,
I found this place from other forums during the elections last year. I was interested in staying in the political loop as far as 2nd Amendments rights go (I found that normal sources for my political news only talk about 2nd amendment issues when some nutbag shoots up an unarmed victims zone). Since then I have fallen in love with pretty much every part of the forums as well.
I am 17 years old and was introduced to shooting by my uncle when I was eight (we shot .22lr rifles and pistols on his ranch during Easter). My father and mother never owned a firearm, but luckily were not antis. After three years of responsible air rifle ownership my mother agreed to sign the papers for my first .22lr (Savage Stevens Model 62 for $99) at the age of 14.
Now for most of my teens I was more interested in fireworks then firearms (mostly because it was easier to find a safe place to set of firecrackers then there were to shoot firearms), and the Savage saw little use (about 1,000 round a year). Over the last year though, I lost all my interest in firecrackers and really feel in love with guns (maybe because I will be able to buy my own soon).
My current collection is:
Savage Stevens Model 62 .22lr
Marlin 60 Stainless Steel .22lr
Mosin Nagant M44 7.62x54r
The Nagant is actually my step fathers. However, I am the one that cleans and stores it. I also had the fun of getting all the cosmoline out of it. After all of that I kind of started claiming it as my own.
Oh, and I also use too many commas and parenthesis in my typing (like you didn't already notice).
|January 18, 2007, 10:04 AM
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Hello THR members...name is John and I first would like to thank Zak Smith for all the great information he has written it has helped me out tremendously. I am former Army Ordnance and have always had a passion for firearms since I was a kid and found myself a decent long range shot in the military,,,needless to say I couldn't hit the broadside of a barn at 20 meters...hah...I am currently having a custom rifle built and will be looking forward to one day competeing in Tactical Shootout events. Thanks for the great site!!! Take care...John
|January 18, 2007, 10:22 AM
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My name is Chris, I focus mainly on WW2 German Cavalry but have slowly been buying up WW2 era rifles and am pondering collecting k98s.
I currently have 2 K98s, 1940 Sauer & Sohns, 1943 bcd Gustloff,
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|January 18, 2007, 01:12 PM
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Howdy! My name is Todd, and I live in the Pacific Northwet... Seattle area to be a little more descriptive. My interest in guns is from a defensive and sporting (hunting and IDPA). I am also an NRA member and certified instructor.
|January 18, 2007, 01:30 PM
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Hi. My name is Dan. Paco is one of our chihuahuas. I love to punch holes in paper but I don't own any hunting rifles, just a whole bunch of milsurps and EBR's.
I guess I think along the lines of Biker, Longeyes, Molon Labe etc. I spent 8 years in Army intell (yea I know, jumbo shrimp), three months as a police dispatcher, and 6 years as a correctional officer at county level between Baltimore and D.C.
Long, long time lurker but I love this forum. Glad to be here finally I'll try to stay out of L+P as much as possible for now.
|January 18, 2007, 03:35 PM
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Hello folks!
Hi there,
I am a brand new shooter having taken up Trap Shooting in the past two months. I live in the Northern Virginia area and have been watching threads here for a while. I finally decided to jump out there and get involved. I too am watching and reading what people say to learn as much as I can.
I don't own a gun yet, still looking for the perfect fit. Probably the same reason I am still single
|January 18, 2007, 04:55 PM
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Welcome to THR folks!
There's room for gun tot'n hippies and pistol pack'n conservatives and every persuasion (even some anti's come to have reasonable discussions with us) here as long as everyone remembers their commitment to keeping the coversation civil and at a high level. No insults, no name calling and we'll keep this the best place on the net.
Oh yeah, "search" is your friend. Search THR as a whole or the particular forum you're in and you'll find gold burried there. We've had some great contributors pass away in the nearly five years this place has been open so you shouldn't miss their contributions if you can help it.
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I've been lurking around here for a while and finally decided to join. I'm an electrical engineer in central Arkansas. I just got my C&R license so I don't plan on having any spare money for the forseeable future.
|January 18, 2007, 08:15 PM
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lite lurker, six year Regular Army, first time poster, Ex wisconsin farm boy, had a mossberg 22 semi auto (shorts only) for rabbits and plinking and a 20 ga bolt action for birds at 13. Shot a lot. Now at 74 am occasional shooter. Lived here in Evanston, IL (a no handgun city) for 40 years but movin back to WI (Racine) to be close to my grand kids. Have taught them and their dad to shoot over the years. Just bought a small milling machine and lathe to do some g'smithin for myself. Have a 1911, a P38 bau yahr '43, 1917 Eddystone 30.06 with GI Issue sling, two Rugers; Model 10/22 carbine w/ Simmons 7716 scope and a .223 Ranch Rifle with polymer Stock and Sling.
This is a super forum. I'll be pokin my nose in a lot of places to learn and relearn.
|January 18, 2007, 11:28 PM
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Hey All:
I have been going through old threads for a month or more and joined a few weeks ago.
Originally from Vermont and still have my "home of record" there. Currently stationed in Korea and have been active duty Army for 7 years where I am a flight surgeon.
Hunted my whole life but just getting into blackpowder. Purchased a BP rifle last week and cannot wait to get home on leave to try it out.
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|January 19, 2007, 03:57 AM
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an "independant conservative" hello..
Good day to all, My name is Robert, I live in a suburb of Mexico, a place called Roswell Georgia. I like the forums and enjoy swapping ideas, storys, etc.
I am a master plumber by trade and a certified turfgrass professional studying soil science. I love guns but not liberals.
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|January 19, 2007, 06:40 PM
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Hmmm myself:
I started shooting in 1961 at an NRA sponsored air rifle course at a local park. I came up through exclectic groups of shooters from my friends uncle with his converted BOYS rifle (.50 cal) to the Class III community...
Over the years I was somewhat just "normal" about my shooting (mediocre) until the 70's when I came across IPSC just atfer Jeff had moved it down from Arrowhead. It was GREAT! Practical pistol shooting at it's best! Shot IPSC competitively until 1982 at which time a disagreement about the state of ISPC split the South West Pistol League in half, half stayed to shoot with the compensated pistols/money match stuff, the rest of us wanted to stay more in tune with "Practical" and non-compensated pistols (Now IDPA). Was friends with some of the classics, including several of the instructors for Jeff's school, Armond Swenson, etc etc etc. During those years, we used to shoot a minimum of 1000 rounds a month (but 3000 rounds a month was not abnormal) and that was the old ISPC load of 5.8 to 6.0 of 231 behind a H&G 68. That was hardball equivelent. Got the Arthritus to prove it! None of this light loaded .38 super.. or even 9mm. In those days we used a great press called a Star, if you were good, you could actually load 1000 rnds an hour. By the 80s a good competitive year in IPSC cost 5 to 6K.. no kidding!
I also have a love of long distance rifle shooting. Have shot NRA Hipower and PALMA matches since the 70's when I was using an M21 (accuraized M14) or a tuned M1A. Bought my first M1A way back when (Springfield meant Devine Tx and an M1A cost $3/400). I used to build and/or tune M14s, M1 Garands, Match rifles... loved it. Used to work on ,45's.. but quit 45 work quickly! And if anyone ever thinks a decent Military rifle can't shoot over 3-400 yards, I never shot less then 80% of score at the PALMA matches with a tuned 14/M1A, that was the Any rifle/Iron Sights part. (Palma Matches are at 1000 yards, standard Hi Power matches were 200 400 and 600 yards). Still got my score books. While I've shot Hi Power for many years, it took the training of an ExMarine Sniper to shape me up and get me good. I had the black and blue spots to prove it, he was OLD SCHOOL! (Semper Fi Don). Still have my stuff except my eyes aren't quite what they used to be, but last time I was up at the range, I supprised a lot of young shooter that didn't understand distance shooting and of course.. they knew better! Chuckle.. Had the strangest prone rthym most people ever saw.. I only had X amount of time to get the shot off before I'd have to roll out of position and rest me eyes... then go back into position.. so I developed my LD rthym and it worked
I also had a great time taking people up for some auto fun during the years I had my class III. I've still seen some of the piles of brass that were left years ago... We took up everything from MaDuece to Mini UZi's (what a silly weapon), kept a ParaFal in my car, just in case and it did have the switch.
Professionally I worked in the arms industry off and on until the 80's both commercially and for the Gov't.. I don't care about discusions the commercial side of the industry, but no.. I don't talk much about the other, except in really vague terms. These were the days when we were beseaching Colt to start modifying the 70 series... of what a waste of time. Then there was the supperb Stainless .45 that came out about that time and the folks that were making it came out to the IPSC matches all the time! To bad they were underfunded... sigh..
In the late 70's got interested with computers, and in the 80s Fidonet started up, by 1985 I had started the discussion areas for technical Firearms discussions and the RTKBA echo for politics. That ran until the late 90's when the Internet had pretty much taken over... but it's never stopped me from getting off my duff and getting out to take the battle to the people... The Shooting community cannot afford coach potatoes, not anymore!
Still love a good pistol and a fine rifle, be it a 14 or a Garand of a pre 70 Winchester... or even my friend's Ruger International in .243 (best darn little bush rifle I've ever used, really handy and nice balance).
Most of all, I'm deeply concerned that most of the shooting community does not see how badly we're loosing our ability to keep firearms and does nothing about it, and that if they don't do something about it SOON, there will be almost no more shooting community by the year 2020/2030. Because there will be no more 2nd.
Also how in the heck do you get rid of the darn wink at the top??
|January 19, 2007, 07:00 PM
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"There's room for gun tot'n hippies and pistol pack'n conservatives"
Hey when I got back from overseas in the early 70's.. by 72 my hair was down to my A**... there were some darn good reasons for that in those days and there was NO AIDS! (AMEN!)
|January 19, 2007, 08:57 PM
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I like writing my thoughts and I like guns. BadaBing BadaBoom... I'm here. I'm a conscious gun owner meaning i only have two hands and only need two pistols.
|January 20, 2007, 12:57 AM
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Hi All!
I am Marti Oakley, columnist for the St Cloud Times in Minnesota. I was recently on Cam's show on Sirius regarding my column about the UN Gun Debate.
So what is my interest in guns? Purely the protection of the 2nd Amendment. I don't own a gun and never have. My sons and grandson hunt and enjoy it and it has been a tradition and activity that they look forward to each season. Here in Minnesota, hunting is a huge thing.
I am working on showing the UN gun Debate to sportsman's clubs and any other individuals interested in seeing it. I am also trying to compile a list of legislation that attempts to directly repeal the 2nd, and any covert attempts to use the UN treaties and agreements to ban our right to keep and bear. So if anyone comes up on anything suspicious......send it along.
If I could have one wish......it would be to debate that obnoxious Peters' woman and send her packing with her demands that we give up our rights.
Marti O
|January 20, 2007, 01:55 AM
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Another new member here. Been a shooter for 30+ years. I just turned 39. I've owned a few different things over the years, but right now I only have a Colt Peacemaker .22 that was a gift from my wife's uncle. I've got the itch for a .45ACP at the moment. There are probably a lot more less exciting things about me than that.
|January 20, 2007, 10:47 AM
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Hi, I just registered minutes ago.
I just got into shooting this past year and I currently own an 870 Express, and Marlin 81 Bolt Action .22 and my new RIA 1911 is on its way soon.
|January 20, 2007, 11:53 AM
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Lamb of Gun, sounds as if you are well on your way.
yardism, Marti O, fattsgalore, and the rest...
You have the right mind frame.... enjoy and welcome to THR.
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|January 20, 2007, 01:44 PM
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Hello to all,
Just registered a few days ago. I have been an avid reader of this and a few other select sites, and I have joined those that seemed to be professionally run and frequented by knowledgeable and friendly folks. I don't have a lot of answers, but I've got some good questions and I hope, some good ideas.
I am a professional photographer, but my favorite job has been as a dad.
Looking forward to contributing.
|January 20, 2007, 01:49 PM
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Welcome to the THR This forum is like a large city and growing every day. Post your questions and someone with similarities like yours will come along.
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THR is a great place.
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|January 20, 2007, 01:59 PM
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I've heard a good photographer can make a hard used gun look like a piece of art......got any examples?
|January 20, 2007, 02:30 PM
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It is illegal to say you are a photog, and not post ANY PICS!!! lets go now, get with the program!
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Farmers may be sitting on a crop they've never even noticed: timber.
"It's hard to convince a farmer that trees are truly a crop," said Paul Noll, who owns Noll's Forestry Services Inc. in Loretto and is on the Cambria County Farm Bureau forestry committee. "Everything's annual for them, and these aren't. They do consider it of value, of course, but it's just not something they see as much as they do the other (crops)."
Now, plans are under way to form a group for all woodland owners in Blair County - including farmers. The group would hold educational workshops and seminars, advocate for the interests of private forest landowners and provide an opportunity for landowners to get to know each other, said Mark Maser, assistant forest manager at Gallitzin State Forest, based in Cambria County.
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Mark Maser, assistant forest manager at Gallitzin State Forest, documents measurements on an elm tree Thursday near the Blair Forest Fire Station in Duncansville. Maser is organizing a group for private woodland owners in the county.
Maser said the idea has been in the works for a long time, but it wasn't until this past fall, when both the Tyrone and Altoona water authorities were trying to save their hemlock trees from an invasive insect, that he started to organize.
"It was a good example of two different woodland properties facing the same issue," Maser said, "and the need to share information on how to address the problem ... gave me the idea to maybe try to start the organization."
A similar organization, Woodland Owners of Centre County, has been around for about 15 years, said Jim Walizer of Bellefonte, a semi-retired beef farmer who's a WOCC board member.
As both a farmer and a woodland owner, Walizer said he understands why there aren't many farmers in WOCC: they just don't have the time. Noll said the same is true of the farmers he works with in Cambria County.
"They're more interested in growing cows and crops," Walizer said. "They work seven days a week."
But it's something farmers should take an interest in, Walizer said, especially when it's time to sell.
"Farmers don't get as much money as they should," he said. "They know what a cow's worth and what a bushel of corn's worth, but they don't know what a tree's worth, and if somebody comes in and offers them money, they think, 'I can use that.'"
Walizer's advice to farmers selling their timber: "Bid it out ... don't just sell it to some guy who comes along." He said he's seen differences of $30,000 and more between top and bottom bids on timber.
It's information like that that woodland owner groups distribute, Walizer said. Noll is a board member of Allegheny Mountain Woodland Associa-tion, which serves Blair and Cambria counties. He said they've done several programs, on topics such as how to plan a timber harvest and chainsaw safety.
Though AMWA serves Blair County, Noll said only 13 of the group's 70 members are from Blair County.
"All counties should have their own woodland owners' association," he said, "for distance reasons."
The educational services can be invaluable, said Loretta Radeschi, past president and board member of Woodland Owners of the Southern Alleghenies, which serves Bedford and Fulton counties.
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From left: Jim Cianfrocca, of Syracuse; Chad Lynch, of Baldwinsville; and John Stepanian, of DeWitt, meet for breakfast of the Eggplant. Stepanian said, "I grew up coming to this diner. I was raised on these," as he pointed to the honey buns. Ellen M. Blalock / The Post-Standard
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Tourism Sector Calls for Lower Electricity Charges
June 17, 2005 12:00 AM - Chatrudee Theparat & Sujintana Hemtasilpa, Bangkok Post
The Tourism Council of Thailand is lobbying the government to reduce electricity fees for tourism-related businesses nationwide for up to two years to help the industry cope with a slowdown in business.
Abbott Sponsors Youth Policy Summit on Child and Adolescent Obesity and Nutrition in America
June 17, 2005 12:00 AM - ENN
How can we, as a society, come together to tackle the growing health epidemic of childhood obesity, both through education and changes in policy?
Regulators to Vote on Ocean Trawling Plan
June 16, 2005 12:00 AM - Terence Chea, Associated Press
Federal regulators were set to vote on a plan to protect deep water corals and other sensitive fish habitat that will likely include a permanent ban on bottom trawling in large tracts of the Pacific Ocean.
Canadian Inuit Leader Accepts Sophie Environment Prize at Oslo Ceremony
June 16, 2005 12:00 AM - Associated Press
Canadian Inuit leader Sheila Watt-Cloutier accepted the 2005 Sophie environment prize Wednesday for drawing attention to the impact of climate change and pollution on the traditional lifestyles of the Arctic's indigenous people and others.
Sanitation Problems Plague Mountaineers in Alaska
June 16, 2005 12:00 AM - Yereth Rosen, Reuters
Mountaineers who ascend North America's loftiest peak are often brought down to earth by "virus-laden poo" left behind by previous climbers, a medical report says.
Researchers Examine Pesticide Impact
June 16, 2005 12:00 AM - Associated Press
University of North Dakota researchers are studying the impact of pesticides on children's ability to learn. "We really think that there will be some sort of decrease in school achievement and memory," said Patricia Moulton, a researcher with the Center for Rural Health.
Power Plant Cleanups Put in Doubt by Appeals Court Ruling
June 16, 2005 12:00 AM - John Heilprin, Associated Press
Efforts since the Clinton administration to clean up the nation's biggest industrial source of air pollution reached what may be a legal dead end Wednesday. A federal appeals court ruled that power plants can throw more pollutants into the air annually when they modernize to operate for longer hours.
The Growing Plastic Wasteberg -- An ENN Commentary
June 16, 2005 12:00 AM - Robert Ovetz, PhD, Sea Turtle Restoration Project
While I admire Mike Johnston's efforts to find a short-term ways to slow the accelerated growth of the plastic wasteberg that threatens our planet ("A Reader Responds to America's Other Trade Deficit," May 19th, 2005), his reply to my commentary "America's Other Trade Deficit"ť unfortunately resorts to name-calling and false claims that I am "short on hard science"ť in an effort to perpetuate the same myths about plastics that have confused and misinformed an entire generation.
Democrats Say White House again Cozy with Big Oil
June 16, 2005 12:00 AM - Reuters
Democrats said Wednesday that the resignation of a former official on the White House Council on Environmental Quality to join ExxonMobil was an example of coziness between the Bush administration and the oil industry, a charge denied by the White House.
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June 16, 2005 12:00 AM - Paul Geary, ENN
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LOS ANGELES - Wild kittens that will number in the tens of millions this year are starting to be born, and overtaxed shelters will be forced to euthanize most they receive. It is a grim reality a leading advocate calls "one of the last major problems" plaguing the animal welfare movement.
Scads of people who discover wild litters of baby cats will take them to shelters, which are overrun with the animals. The facilities turn to euthanasia when their limited resources are stretched even thinner by the massive influx of kittens and babies that require round-the-clock care. But groups that trap, neuter and release feral cats and shelters that are able to open 24-hour kitten nurseries are doing their part to stem the deaths.
"The problem of community cats dying in shelters is one of the last major problems we in the animal welfare movement are tackling," said Gregory Castle, CEO of Best Friends Animal Society, a leader in the no-kill movement that runs the largest animal sanctuary in the country.
He says "there's a ways to go" but has seen a dramatic drop in deaths whenever his group connects a shelter with a local organization that traps, neuters and releases free-roaming cats. Wild kittens socialized early enough can be great pets, his group says.
A staggering 40 million feral kittens will be born throughout the country this year, but 20 million of them will die at birth, said Becky Robinson, president of Bethesda, Md.-based Alley Cat Allies.


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TUSCALOOSA, Alabama -- Thousands of Alabama fans gathered around the annual bonfire following the pep rally on the Quad during University of Alabama homecoming festivities on Friday, Oct. 4, 2013.
Following the pep rally where coach Nick Saban and the Alabama senior football players addressed the crowd and the homecoming queen election results were announced, fans walked a few yards away to watch a pile of wood go up in flames.
After about 20 minutes of dousing the wood structure in kerosene, firemen lit it up, as fans stood by and felt the heat.
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The Great Theatre of Ephesus, Turkey. Ephesus is one of the best preserved classical cities the Mediterranean region. With the excavated streets connecting well preserved/restored Roman structures, such as the Great Theatre, you can get a feel for what a Roman city might have looked like.
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Also in town is Spears's father, Jamie, who remains in legal control of her affairs until a July 31 hearing.
The singer's arrival in her home state comes as sources say there is a planned baby shower over the weekend for her 17-year-old sister Jamie Lynn, who announced her pregnancy in December.
Spears, 26, last visited Kentwood in early 2007 for her aunt's funeral.
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.РФ, Russia's IDN ccTLD, Receives Over 200,000 Registrations In 'Opening Hours'
Posted on | November 11, 2010 | 1 Comment
Russia's official IDN for '.ru' (or in this case, RF) .РФ has been golden in its opening hours to the public receiving more than 200,000 registrations.
A very impressive start for something that many people have questioned.
The domain name рф (romanized as rf[2]) is the internationalized country code top-level domain in the Domain Name System of the Internet for the Russian Federation. In the Domain Name System it has the ASCII DNS name xn--p1ai. The domain accepts only Cyrillic subdomain applications, and is the first Cyrillic implementation of the Internationalizing Domain Names in Applications (IDNA) system. The domain became operational on May 13, 2010.[3]
Also worth noting that рф.com was sold earlier this year for $60,000 to an anonymous buyer.
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Posted on | November 10, 2010 | 3 Comments
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Google Sues US Govt For Favoring Microsoft Over Google Apps
Posted on | November 2, 2010 | 2 Comments
SAN FRANCISCO (DOW JONES)–Google Inc. (GOOG) is suing the U.S. Department of the Interior, alleging the agency inappropriately wrote procurement requirements for a messaging contract to favor Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) over its own Google Apps.
Canon to begin acquisition of the ".canon" Top-Level Domain name
Posted on | May 15, 2010 | 7 Comments
TOKYO, March 16, 2010—Canon Inc. announced today that it will begin the acquisition process for the top-level domain name ".canon," based on the new generic Top Level Domain (gTLD) registration system.
The non-profit organization ICANN (Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers), which maintains and regulates the Internet's addressing system, has rigorously evaluated the current gTLD string of characters' societal value, utilization purpose, and use in an organization's operations. At its International Public Meeting held in June 2008, however, ICANN approved the relaxation and liberalization of the new gTLD system adoption rules. Following this meeting, a number of disputes arose surrounding whether the entry procedures were fair and adequate, and it was expected that the new gTLD system would commence registration application within 2010 at the earliest. The new gTLD system is expected to allow a company name, brand name, geographic region, or service type to be used as a gTLD within website and e-mail addresses.
Along with its expanding global business activities, Canon will continue to provide online information and services to its users, consumers, and other stakeholders, across the world's countries and regions. With the adoption of the new gTLD system, which enables the direct utilization of the Canon brand, Canon hopes to globally integrate open communication policies that are intuitive and easier to remember compared with existing domain names such as "canon.com." Canon has made the official decision to begin necessary procedures to acquire ".canon" upon the introduction of the new system. Following approval for the new gTLD system, which is expected to take place after the latter half of 2011, Canon will make full use of the new domain name to increase the convenience and effectiveness of its online communications.
About Top Level Domain (TLD) and gTLD
A Top Level Domain is the string of characters located in the right-most side of a domain name, and represents the "source" within the hierarchal structure of a domain name. There are two types of TLDs: gTLD (generic Top Level Domain), based on usage application or sector, such as ".com," and ccTLD (country code Top Level Domain), based on country or region, such as ".jp."
Google to end China censorship after e-mail breach
Posted on | January 12, 2010 | 18 Comments
Google want's to end censorship of its Google.cn after some hack attempts were found on the e-mails of some Chinese human activists. With the possibility of leaving operations in China due to these reasons, they do in fact go back to their "Do no evil" motto, which I find refreshing, especially after us not getting any of that evidence for a while now.
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Quite a week for Mel Gibson: Not only did he get a sort-of blessing from the Pope for his controversial upcoming "The Passion of the Christ" ("It is as it was," the pontiff said of the film), but he also nabbed the top spot among Americans in a Harris Poll of adults asked to name their favorite star.
Gibson, 47, who was No. 2 in 2002, has found himself in the top four every year since 1994. The last time he was No. 1, however, was in 1996, a year after his "Braveheart" was released, and when the "Lethal Weapon" movies were still fresh in people's minds.
Julia Roberts, 36, whose new "Mona Lisa Smile" was pretty much trampled by the critics, was No. 1 in 2001 and in third place last year, but she's now No. 2. Last year's favorite star, Tom Hanks, 47, has slipped to No. 4, while Sean Connery, 73, is in third place.
Others on the list include 61-year-old Harrison Ford (last year's No. 4), who shares the fourth spot this year with Tom Cruise, 41.
John Wayne, who died in 1979 but was first or second on the list almost every year until 2001, slips from sixth place last year to his current seventh, with tough guy Clint Eastwood, 73, retaining the No. 8 spot that he held last year.
Denzel Washington, 49, who was No. 7 last year, is now No. 9, while a newcomer to the list, 40-year-old No. 10 Johnny Depp, displaces Sandra Bullock, 39.
As noted by movie critics, only Depp had a major box-office hit this year ("Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl"). Others on the list either released no major movie this year or else a movie that fared poorly.
The Harris Poll was conducted online within the United States between Nov. 17-23, 2003, among 1,102 adults.
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"I'm happy. We came to an agreement and I'm ready to move on," Alex "Shorty" Welch, a member of the all-female dance crew, Beat Freaks, tells PEOPLE. "I'm ready to start working again."
Lovato, 18, has been in treatment for emotional and physical issues since the altercation took place in October during the South American leg of the Jonas Brothers's world tour.
According to Welch, the punch came after Lovato was confronted by tour managers about her conduct the previous night. The incident left Welch with a black eye and a bruised left cheekbone, and the dancer considered legal action prior to the resolution.
Lovato's reps had no comment on the settlement.
Welch, 21, would not disclose the terms of the settlement but said that the agreement called for a portion of the settlement to be donated to charity. "That's important," she says.
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Fried Chicken, Vietnamese StyleSeptember 19, 2012
Ambitious restaurateurs Larry McGuire and Thomas Moorman helm the kitchen at Elizabeth Street Café, a nine-month-old Vietnamese boulangerie and café in Austin's South Congress neighborhood that is putting a locally sourced, farm-fresh spin on the Asian cuisine. "You used to have to pilgrimage to north Austin for good Vietnamese food, which is one of our favorites, with so many tastes and textures and an overall feeling of freshness," Moorman says. So he and McGuire sought to "bring these flavors to central Austin and showcase them in an inviting, convivial space." Although they decided to keep the menu relatively traditional, they were excited to "sneak in a few original dishes" (like the fried chicken bún below).
Both chefs grew up in the Lone Star State, so when they opened their first restaurant, Lamberts Downtown Barbecue, in 2006, it seemed natural that they'd begin by tackling barbecue. Even at the outset of their careers, the young chefs wanted to push the boundaries of culinary traditions.
"There are great by-the-pound, no-utensil barbecue joints in and around Austin," Moorman says. "We wanted to celebrate that tradition—serving natural meats and local produce—with a thoughtful cocktail, beer and wine list. The smoker is the heart of our restaurant, but we've drawn inspiration from Southern and Tex-Mex cuisines to round out our 'fancy barbecue' menu."
Once they'd earned accolades and a steady fan base for their downtown outpost, McGuire and Moorman set their scopes on Austin's South Congress neighborhood, or SoCo, as it's often called. With Perla's Seafood and Oyster Bar, they delved into new terrain, but it didn't take long for them to hit their stride on the other side of Town Lake. They opened Elizabeth Street Cafe in December 2011, and after baking baguettes for banh mi, decided to add a full-scale bakery to their mini-empire.
What's next for the rockstar chefs? Since launching Elizabeth Street Café, they've opened a fourth enterprise: Fresa's Chicken al Carbon, a drive-thru serving organic, locally sourced poultry. They're also preparing to reopen Jeffrey's—historically considered Austin's preeminent fine dining establishment—this winter. Their success, and the rocket speed at which they're accomplished it, bodes well for Austin's food scene.
Keffir Lime Fried Chicken Bún with Soft Boiled Farm Egg
(serves 4)
1 package Bún Tháp Chùa Vermicelli
4 boneless skinless chicken thighs
4 organic eggs
1 English cucumber, peeled as much as you like and sliced thin
3 jalapenos, thinly sliced
1 large carrot, julienne-cut
4 radishes, thinly sliced
1 head iceberg lettuce, julienne-cut
1 bunch mint picked
1 bunch cilantro picked
1 bunch thai basil picked
½ cup roasted peanuts, chopped
2 cups coconut milk
3 kefir lime leaves
3 cups all purpose flour
2 quarts canola oil
kosher salt
extra virgin olive oil
Nuoc Cham
Dry the lime leaves in a 200 degree oven for 30 minutes
Place in a spice grinder with 3 tablespoons salt
Cube the chicken into one inch pieces
Season with some kefir lime salt and refrigerate for 15 minutes
Bring one large pot & one small pot of water to a boil and season both with salt, the smaller one more aggressively
Cook the vermicelli at a rapid boil and gently move to separate
Once soft strain and rinse with cold water and let dry on parchment paper at room temperature
Place the eggs in the smaller pot and cook at a rapid boil for 5 min. 45 sec.
Shock in ice water and begin to gently peel, placing back in ice water until chilled.
Prep all the vegetable and herbs
Heat the canola oil in a heavy bottomed shallow pot to 350 degrees F
Cover the chicken in coconut milk
Place the flour in a shallow pan and season with some kefir lime salt
Dredge the chicken in the flour and shake of the excess
Fry the chicken until golden brown and place on paper towels to drain
Dunk the eggs back into hot water for 30 seconds to warm
To Assemble:
Place the lettuce in the bottom of four shallow wide bowls
Place a large portion of noodles on the lettuce
Arrange the vegetables and herbs around the noodles however you please
Sprinkle the chicken with the rest of the salt and place on top of the noodles
Place the egg somewhere and season with salt and extra virgin olive oil
Serve with nuoc cham
Nuoc Cham
½ cup fish sauce
½ cup rice vinegar
¼ cup sugar
½ tsp. minced garlic
4 birds eye chilies, thinly sliced
¼ cup lime juice
Combine the first three ingredients in a stainless steel pot and bring to a simmer
Add the garlic and chili and allow to cool
Wisk in the lime juice and reserve
Millie Kerr is a freelance writer, wildlife conservationist, and former attorney based in Manhattan.


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The city of Busan, which will host APEC Economic Leaders' Meeting in
November this year, is an international port city that has a lot to offer. The city features plenty of tourist attractions
and festivals, which make it all the more popular among tourists. Busan, these days, is emerging as a main film location
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Nose and palate of ripe pear and peach with hints of spice and citrus blossom. Texturally complex with a nice backbone of acidity and an extended finish.
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These southeast facing vineyard blocks sit at 425 feet and were planted in 1999 and 2006-7 with Dijon clones 76 and 548 to well draining, silty clay loam soils. The fruit was whole cluster pressed, fermented in barrel with complete malolactic and aged on its lees for 12 months in neutral French oak.


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Whatsapp is more popular than Twitter
Doesn't make much money though
CROSS PLATFORM MESSAGING SERVICE Whatsapp must be feeling pretty smug, as the company revealed on Tuesday that it is now more popular than Twitter.
Whatsapp is available on almost all mobile operating systems, including iOS, Android and Windows Phone 8. The service, for those of you who haven't been sucked in yet, lets users send messages to other Whatsapp users over a 3G or WiFi connection, avoiding text messaging altogether.
Speaking at All Things D's D: Dive Into Mobile conference in New York, Whatsapp CEO Jan Joum revealed for the first time that the service has more monthly active users than Twitter. He didn't say how many users the service has exactly, but he did say that Whatsapp sees eight billion inbound and 12 billion outbound messages a day, making it bigger than microblogging website Twitter.
Whatsapp might have millions of users, but surprisingly it doesn't make much money. As well as looking to introduce a subscription based model, under which users must pay a 69p fee every year, Joum said that the company is looking at more ways to make more cash from the service. He seemed to think that this will be pretty easy.
Joum said, "We're looking forward to a world with billions of phones. and once that happens it's going to be extremely easy to monetize. But a lot more people need to join the smartphone revolution and a lot more people need to buy more goods on their phones."
Don't start panicking yet, though, as Joum added that the firm has no plans to introduce annoying adverts to Whatsapp.
"We do have a manifesto opposing advertising. We're proud of that. Who likes advertising? We're so bombarded with ads so much in our daily lives and we felt that smartphones aren't the place for that," Joum said.
"Our phones are so intimately connected to us, to our lives. Putting advertising on a device like that is a bad idea. You don't want to be interrupted by ads when you're chatting with your loved ones."
These impressive figures come just after speculation suggested that Google was eyeing a potential buyout of the company. Who knows, maybe this is all a ploy from Whatsapp to squeeze more money out of Google, despite rumours that the firm was already planning to spend a cool $1bn. µ
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