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Haye mentioned nothing in this interview about the WBA forcing him to fight by a certain date. All he did was cry about Wlad not needing a tune up.
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first of all your 2nd point, talksport radio, search my thread makers, haye said in it wba will force him to fight their guy if wlad signs to fight chisora and then begged him on the radio to not sign
for all we know wba who already waited from november would not have waited longer? pretty reasonable for me, why wait for a july fight which may not happen due to wlad only having 9 weeks remember
when they got their own mandatory to make?
right now we are in the territory of assumptions
what if haye asked wba to not to force him and wait for april 30th? would wba allow that? could be yes and could be no
would wlad actually fight at the end of july with 9 weeks only? could be yes and could be no
we dont know all the facts but from what we do know, it suggests haye wasnt to blame since even wlads manager admitted they both agreed terms, the only thing that stopped the fight was the chisora one
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I tend to be skeptical given the fact that its the WBA. They could probably make Haye the Super Dooper Champion or whatever, make Chagaev "regular" champion. Like I said, Guillermo Jones held the WBA Title for 2 years without fighting.....what the fuk is that about? I find it very hard to believe they wouldn't wait till after Wlad-Chiosra.
I kinda get the feeling this is all a rouse, Haye wants rid of his one option to Sauerland, Wlad wants to obligate his last RTL fight. They both stand to make more money with those monkeys off their backs.
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we only post what we know, right now all we know is wba told haye to fight his mandatory, thats something haye said as well. the fact he is doing that suggests that it is true....
i am sure haye and one of the klits will fight september or october, both guys agreed to terms remember, so the hard stuff is done
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He was embarrassed and wriggled like an eel.
He didn't even bring up any better argument (e.g. "9 weeks are too little to promote"), instead HE LIED by mentioning "7-8 weeks".
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Haye is a joke of a "champion" and the only people who don't realize this and try to back him up are stupid Englishmen.
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Muslim devotees travelling on the train after attending the Akheri Munajat concluding prayers…on the outskirts of Dhaka
Verdict of the International Military Tribunal
A Japanese cabinet member visited a shrine seen by critics as a symbol of Tokyo's wartime aggression on Wednesday, pouring salt on a fresh wound after Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's pilgrimage there last week drew sharp criticism from China and South Korea.
Internal Affairs Minister Yoshitaka Shindo said he thought his visit to the Yasukuni Shrine was unlikely to become a diplomatic issue…
But Beijing and Seoul have repeatedly expressed anger over politicians' visits to Yasukuni, where Japanese leaders convicted as war criminals by an Allied tribunal after World War Two are honored along with those who died in battle.
Both China and Korea suffered under Japanese rule, with parts of China occupied from the 1930s and Korea colonized from 1910 to 1945. Japanese leaders have apologized in the past but many in China and South Korea doubt the sincerity of the apologies, partly because of contradictory remarks by politicians.
China condemned Wednesday's visit, which it said exposed Japan's war crimes and attempts to "challenge the outcomes of the world's anti-fascist war"…
Underscoring the deteriorating ties between Asia's two biggest economies, China said its leaders would not meet Abe after he visited Yasukuni on Thursday, the first visit by a serving Japanese prime minister since 2006.
The quality of Reuters commentary continues to deteriorate. They end the article with one of those fatuous boilerplate sentences famous in diplomatic annals: "Experts see his visit as an attempt to recast Japan's wartime past in a less apologetic light and revive national pride."
Which experts, working for which governments — and what sort of national pride is raised by visiting a memorial best-known even in Japan as important to the nation's greed and brutality to all other Asian nations? There are beaucoup alternatives popular among the Japanese people.
Can you imagine Angela Merkel or Giorgio Napolitano paying a visit of remembrance to Hitler's bunker or the Esso station in Milan where Mussolini's body was laid out for the public to spit on. Do you think President Obama should wander through Oakwood Cemetery in Raleigh, North Carolina to visit Jesse Helms' grave? The last and most unrepentant racist elected to the US Senate on a platform of opposing civil rights for non-white Americans – forever!
Right-wing nationalism in Japan only means one policy in the last century of Asian history. Military might and political will commanded to serve Japanese corporate Zaibatsu.
Civilians account for almost one fifth of the deaths from U.S. drone strikes in Pakistan over the past decade, a U.N. report says…Of the approximately 2,200 Pakistanis who have died in drone strikes, the report says 400 (18 percent) were not militants…
Ben Emmerson, a U.N. special rapporteur who wrote the report, said that Pakistani officials who provided the number indicate that, "owing to underreporting and obstacles to effective investigation, those figures were likely to be an underestimate."
Some 31 civilians have been killed in drone attacks in Afghanistan and between 12 and 18 in Yemen in the past 18 months, the report added.
The 22-page report was released ahead of a debate on the use of remotely piloted aircraft scheduled for next Friday at the U.N. General Assembly, The Guardian reported…
Emmerson contrasted British and U.S. policies on drone usage. He said Britain's Royal Air Force "thoroughly scrubbed" its intelligence before authorizing the use of drones. As a result, he said, there had been only one incident in which civilians were killed.
The CIA's use of drones had created "an almost insurmountable obstacle to transparency," Emmerson said. Consequently, the United States has not revealed any data about the number of civilians killed or injured by drone strikes.
He called on the United States to "further clarify" its policies about the use of drones and to declassify information about the use of drones in counter-terrorism activities.
Here in the States we're faced with the Pentagon, Defense [War] Department officials, the White house [regardless of who's in office] and Congress ready and willing to legalize attacks upon foreign soil around the world. They will figure out some way to satisfy themselves – if not the public – about the death of civilian non-combatants under any circumstances.
This is how the US manages transparency.
The United Nations says more than 1,000 people were killed in Iraq in May, the highest monthly death toll for years.
The violence makes it the deadliest month since the wide sectarian violence of 2006-7, and raising concern that the country is returning to civil war.
The vast majority of the casualties were civilians, and Baghdad was the worst hit area of the country…
Figures released on Saturday showed 1,045 civilians and security personnel were killed in May, far higher than the 712 who died in April, the worst recorded toll since June 2008…
Analysts say al-Qaeda and Sunni Islamist insurgents have been invigorated by the Sunni-led revolt in neighbouring Syria and by the worsening sectarian tensions in the country…
On some days, Shia areas across Baghdad appear to have been the main target, while on others, the Sunni areas outside the capital saw most explosions.
One explanation is that Sunni militant groups linked to al-Qaeda want to provoke civil war in Baghdad and undermine the government in areas they see as their strongholds, our correspondent says.
But other explanations link the violence to the civil war in neighbouring Syria, he adds.
The bloodshed has been accompanied by unconfirmed rumours about sectarian militias roaming Baghdad for revenge, which have caused fear in many areas of the capital.
It's not only inside Iraq that folks lay the responsibility for continued violence on Bush's War. As violent and corrupt as was Saddam Hussein, the invasion demonstrated sovereignty means nothing in a world facing United States military power.
The people of Iran will never forget the democratic government overthrown by the United States. Good, bad or indifferent, Iraqis will never forget the hundreds of thousands of civilians killed and maimed in the name of liberation by the United States. Afghanistan, Pakistan, even Saudi Arabia watch the way we ignore accepted global law – and take whatever we want, however we wish. No one forgets.
They may be small, but the information mice can convey about the movements of humans throughout history is mighty, according to a Cornell researcher.
Jeremy Searle, professor of ecology and evolutionary biology, explores the global distribution of small mammals and has found that house mice (Mus musculus) are ideal biomarkers of human settlement as well. Where people go, so do mice, often stowing away in carts of hay or on ships. Despite a natural range of just 100 meters and an evolutionary base near Pakistan, the house mouse has managed to colonize every continent, which makes it a useful tool for researchers like Searle.
…Searle and co-author Eleanor Jones…showed how mice hitched a ride with the Vikings and set up colonies in areas where the Norwegians settled, such as the British Isles, Faroe Islands, Iceland and Greenland.
Previous research conducted by Searle at the University of York supported the theory that Australian mice originated in the British Isles and probably came over with convicts shipped there to colonize the continent in the late 18th and 19th centuries. He came to the conclusion by using evolutionary techniques to analyze mitochondrial DNA, comparing modern-day mouse populations from Australia with those from their likely regional source in Western Europe.
In the Viking study, he and his fellow researchers in Iceland, Denmark and Sweden took it a step further, using ancient mouse DNA collected from archaeological sites dating from the 10th to 12th centuries, as well as modern mice…
Using mice as a proxy for human movement can add to what is already known through archaeological data and answer important questions in areas where there is a lack of artifacts, Searle said…
"Mice are living artifacts. They can tell us where people have moved in the same way a piece of pottery might tell us where an Etruscan merchant went. And because of the wealth of genetic data we can collect from mice, they might actually tell us much more than a piece of pottery," Searle said.
I love this. His next study carries forward tracking mice from South Asia to East Africa. A study in genes, transportation and unintended consequences.
It seems to be a national obsession in India: measuring the country's economic development against China's yardstick.
At a recent panel discussion to commemorate the 20th anniversary of India's dismantling parts of its socialist economy, a government minister told business leaders to keep their eye on the big prize: growing faster than China. "That's not impossible," said the minister, Palaniappan Chidambaram, who oversees national security and previously was finance minister. "People are beginning to talk about outpacing China."
Indians, in fact, seem to talk endlessly about all things China, a neighbor with whom they have long had a prickly relationship, but which is also one of the few other economies that has had 8 percent or more annual growth in recent years…
"Indians are obsessed with China, but the Chinese are paying too little attention to India," said Minxin Pei, an economist who was born in China and who writes a monthly column for The Indian Express, a national daily newspaper…
It might be only natural that the Chinese would look up the development ladder to the United States, now that it is the only nation in the world with a larger economy, rather than over their shoulders at India, which ranks ninth. And while China is India's largest trading partner, the greatest portion of China's exports go to the United States. China's largest trading partner is the EU – even if it doesn't fit the NYT editorial template.…
Evidence of the Indo-Sino interest disparity can be seen in the two countries' leading newspapers. The People's Daily, the Chinese Communist Party's house organ, had only 24 articles mentioning India on its English-language Web site in the first seven months of this year, according to the Factiva database. By contrast, The Times of India, the country's largest circulation English-language newspaper, had 57 articles mentioning China — in July alone.
There are other big gaps. Indian cities, large and small, are filled with Chinese restaurants that serve a distinctly ultraspicy, Indian version of that cuisine. But there are few Indian restaurants in Beijing or Shanghai, let alone in smaller Chinese cities.
RTFA. It rolls on through a chunk of anecdotal information. Useful as far as it goes. And it only goes as far as the NY TIMES habit of continuing the Cold War with China – even though it finally seems to have relented a little over Russia.
Completely lacking from the analysis is where both nations started out. There are many parallels and economics were certainly similar at the end of the 1940's as both countries stepped out into liberation from a foreign yoke in the case of India and a comprador class intertwined with warlords and bandits in China.
Frankly, the significant historic difference lies in handicaps which India retains. Much of the caste system is unrelenting regardless of lip service and law. China's bureaucratic corruption siphons off a lot less opportunity and value. India's cachet of wealth and power held by historically "important" families is closer to Japan's Zaibatsu than anything in China. Ongoing commitments to religion in India – whether as a cultural anchor or dedicated political parties – hinders the growth of the economy as much as you would expect from theocratic ideologues in government.
Targeted violence against female public officials, dismal healthcare and desperate poverty make Afghanistan the world's most dangerous country in which to be born a woman, according to a global survey…
The Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC), Pakistan, India and Somalia feature in descending order after Afghanistan in the list of the five worst states, the poll among gender experts shows.
The appearance of India, a country rapidly developing into an economic super-power, was unexpected. It is ranked as extremely hazardous because of the subcontinent's high level of female infanticide and sex trafficking.
Others were less surprised to be on the list. Informed about her country's inclusion, Somalia's women's minister, Maryan Qasim, responded: "I thought Somalia would be first on the list, not fifth…"
India is the fourth most dangerous country. "India's central bureau of investigation estimated that in 2009 about 90% of trafficking took place within the country and that there were some 3 million prostitutes, of which about 40% were children," the survey found.
Forced marriage and forced labour trafficking add to the dangers for women. "Up to 50 million girls are thought to be 'missing' over the past century due to female infanticide and foeticide,", the UN population fund says, because parents prefer to have young boys rather than girls…
Monique Villa, the chief executive of the Thomson Reuters Foundation, said: "Hidden dangers – like a lack of education or terrible access to healthcare – are as deadly, if not more so, than physical dangers like rape and murder which usually grab the headlines…
"Empowering women tackles the very roots of poverty. In the developing world when a woman works, her children are better fed and better educated because they spend their money for their family…"
Each country was also ranked in terms of six risk factors including: health, discrimination and lack of access to resources, cultural and religious practices, sexual violence, human trafficking and conflict-related violence.
RTFA for details on each. The core study is available here [.pdf].
I've only featured the inclusion of India in this post because – as the article noted – it was the only surprise in the group.
Leading progress towards peace in Yemen
At first, the news from Yemen on May 25 sounded like a modest victory in the campaign against terrorists: an airstrike had hit a group suspected of being operatives for Al Qaeda in the remote desert of Marib Province, birthplace of the legendary queen of Sheba.
But the strike, it turned out, had also killed the province's deputy governor, a respected local leader who Yemeni officials said had been trying to talk Qaeda members into giving up their fight. Yemen's president, Ali Abdullah Saleh, accepted responsibility for the death and paid blood money to the offended tribes.
The strike, though, was not the work of Mr. Saleh's decrepit Soviet-era air force. It was a secret mission by the United States military, according to American officials, at least the fourth such assault on Al Qaeda in the arid mountains and deserts of Yemen since December.
The attack offered a glimpse of the Obama administration's shadow war against Al Qaeda and its allies. In roughly a dozen countries — from the deserts of North Africa, to the mountains of Pakistan, to former Soviet republics crippled by ethnic and religious strife — the United States has significantly increased military and intelligence operations, pursuing the enemy using robotic drones and commando teams, paying contractors to spy and training local operatives to chase terrorists.
RTFA. Long. In depth. Just the beginning of coverage of the war our government wishes to keep secret.
As usual, you can't tell the players without a scorecard. Agency vs. agency. One group of political hacks with a set of loyalties vs. another group of political hacks with differing loyalties. Decisions made about who should have the power of life and death – determined by which agency has the least oversight from Congress. As if that mattered.
Plus, plausible deniability for the White House.
Holbrooke and Gilani
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This Op-Ed piece is typical of Ghori's rants. Nationalist before democrat, though both interdependent. A retired career diplomat.
'The Americans are coming, and coming big,' according to media pundits in Pakistan. And none should blame them for going over the top because the figures being bandied about are, to say the very least, flabbergasting.
What's on the drawing boards in Washington and Islamabad are the blue prints for vastly increasing the number of American personnel manning one of the most important diplomatic presence in the 21st century for the Americans in Pakistan. Apparently, Washington feels that its battery of 750 men and women stocking the American Embassy in Islamabad is far too inadequate to cope with the job on their hands. They need to be given a big injection to inflate their muscles. The magic potion said to be brewing would add at least another thousand people on what's being described as a 'war footing'…
Though he wanders off into hallucinations suitable to a delusional Right – or Left, a useful question is raised about the purpose and goal of the new Pakistan diplomatic fortress.
I imagine most folks far away from South Asia never have the satisfaction of lassi – as aperitif, dessert or in the Mediterranean style of cleaning your palate between courses of an extended meal. It's most often sweet, a little or a lot; but, it can be savory. And that's my preference in the heart of our high desert summer.
For 2:
* 2 cups/ glasses of fresh yogurt – Trader Joe's organic whole milk yogurt
* 2 small Persian cucumbers cut into cubes – the peel is thin and edible
* 2 small cloves garlic
* zest of a small lemon
* juice of half of that lemon
* a teaspoon of honey [if you like – I do]
* a couple of ice cubes
* no salt; but, you would add a touch in India
* mint to garnish if you have some handy
* Mix all the ingredients top speed in a blender till smooth. My Kitchenaid takes about a minute.
* Pour into tall, chilled glasses and garnish with mint.
It is delicious, refreshing and relaxing.


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Schools Will Rock You: Students Across US Stage Queen Rock Theatrical, 'We Will Rock You'
'We Will Rock You' -- the rock theatrical from Queen and Ben Elton -- will help schools across the US and Canada stage amateur productions of the award-winning, record-breaking show, whose first North American tour kicks off at Baltimore's historic Hippodrome Theatre on October 15. 'Schools Will Rock You' will allow students to put on their own version of the musical -- which features 24 of Queen's biggest hits -- with guidance and tools from the creators of 'We Will Rock You.'
Now in its 12th year in London, 'We Will Rock You' has sold more than 15 million tickets worldwide. 'Schools Will Rock You' has been similarly successful, as thousands of schools in the UK have staged the production since 2006. The introduction of the program in the US marks the first time schools will be able to put on the theatrical in advance of the professional production's appearance in their respective cities (UK schools have had to wait up to several years).
In North America, 'Schools Will Rock You' will provide schools with the tour script, score and production support (plus the opportunity to buy full backing tracks), giving students the chance to perform Queen anthems like "Another One Bites The Dust," "Crazy Little Thing Called Love," "We Are The Champions," "Bohemian Rhapsody" and, of course, "We Will Rock You," while learning all aspects of mounting a stage production along the way. The school productions are limited to non-professionals up to the age of 18.
'Schools Will Rock You' has the full support of Queen's Brian May and Roger Taylor - "We are thrilled you are looking at 'We Will Rock You' as a school production," says May. "It was a blast to put the show together in the first place and we have been running for 11 years in London. We hope you will have a blast doing it for your school."
'We Will Rock You' is the ninth longest-running show in London's West End and was crowned the UK's favorite show at the 2011 Olivier Awards, the UK equivalent of the Tony Awards. The production's North American launch currently includes stops in 26 cities, with more dates to be announced soon.
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Peter Brown wrote:[color=blue]
> Hi Timmy[/color]
Hi Petey
> The OS/2 Guy wrote:
>> Peter Brown wrote:
>>> An alternative is ecomstation who have posted a brief response to the
>>> IBM announcement called "eComStation in 2006 and Beyond"
>>> [url]http://www.ecomstation.com/news.phtml?action=fullnews&id=1074&title=eComStation%20in%202006%20and%20Beyond[/url][/color]
>> Such a purchase would be foolish and money down the
>> drain for three very good reasons:
>> (1) Serenity cannot sell any new licenses for OS/2
>> beyond December 31, 2005. IBM has not renewed
>> their OEM agreement beyond that date. If you
>> bought eCS today (instead of buying OS/2 directly
>> from IBM) you'd get an older version of OS/2 and
>> you'll have to pay additional fees to get any OS/2
>> updates, enhancements, drivers, etc., through the
>> third party vendor, Serenity Systems. If Serenity
>> Systems is unable to pony up the funds to purchase
>> those upgrades on behalf of their eCS customers,
>> you won't get them. You'll then have to wait until
>> someone volunteers to rework them into the proprietary
>> eCS product, beta test them for months on end, then
>> live with the bugs caused by eComStation. And you
>> are entirely dependent on Serenity and their one and
>> only volunteer for these updates. Now, if you purchased
>> a maintenance contract for $62 from IBM (Passport
>> Advantage) you won't have to pay a thing for any
>> items IBM generates for their large OS/2 Enterprise
>> customers and they will install in OS/2 easily.[/color][/color]
> The above looks like your "normal" abnormal twaddle.[/color]
So far that 'normal' twaddle has saved hundreds of OS/2
users from making the mistake of dumping their money
down the eComStation gutter. Thanks for the support.
> Suggest you have a
> read of the eCS statement[/color]
About as hokey as they come. The eCS statement was
written by the same guy who said he had no problem
with Mensys illegally advertising eCS as "Warp 5" and
marketed eCS with claims that "only Serenity can offer
the Journaled File System ... WiseMachine is the killer
app that can install OS/2 within 32 seconds..." and some
38 false and misleading misnomer marketing statements.
If you are stupid enough to believe them Petey then you
sure has hell deserve what you get. You were well warned.
> - not that Windows Users such as you are that
> interested in the future of OS/2 and derivatives anyway.[/color]
This is what destroys your credibility - post false claims
publicly against a *real* OS/2 user. You have nothing
to back up your claim and couldn't prove it if you had to.
Thanks for revealing your lack of total credibility.[color=blue][color=green]
>> (2) You'd be risking your personal and confidential
>> information, such as your credit card numbers,
>> name, social security number, billing address
>> and anything else of a personal nature that the
>> distributor of eCS requires of you. This is because
>> the owner of eCS (Bob St. John) has already
>> demonstrated his willingness to illegally post that
>> type of information in public forums. For *that* reason
>> alone you should avoid the purchase of eCS or
>> any other item from the distributor, Mensys of The
>> Netherlands (St. John has access to their records
>> and reveals the personal information on those
>> records in public forums.).[/color]
> More Twaddle.[/color]
More truth you don't want to accept except you have
to now that "The Boob" has actually done this. You
now sit there with the fact in the back of your wee brain
asking yourself, "is my personal data safe? He wouldn't
do it to me, would he???"
>> (3) eComStation simply doesn't work. As a licensed
>> user of every release of eCS, it has failed to work
>> as advertised. You would be wasting nearly $1,000
>> which is the cost Serenity eventually pulls out of you.
>> They do this by piece-mealing you to death. It doesn't
>> work? Did you get the latest updates? Go back to
>> Mensys and get them (for $99). It won't install? Did
>> you get the downloaded version or the hard copy on
>> CD? Go back to Mensys and order the hard copy
>> CD version (another $99). The piece-meal game
>> never ends and just when you think it does, Serenity
>> announces a "refresh" is available then posts another
>> marketing propaganda that promises to give you the
>> "killer application". That killer is dead. It was originally
>> introduced as "WiseMachine" and was supposed to
>> install eComStation within 32seconds and be available
>> to install every application in mere seconds.
> And yet more Twaddle.[/color]
I thank you for avoiding the truth. How is WiseMachine
working for you? Please, offer us all an objective few
so we can be dazzled by your brilliance.
> Timmy, keep taking the pills :-)[/color]
You have me confused with Dink.
Dr. Timothy Martin, The Official and Only OS/2 Guy
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MARTINSBURG - It was a battle between the old and the new during the Class AAA, Region II, Section 2 quarterfinal game. Spring Mills stayed with Martinsburg (14-7) through the first half of the game, but the Bulldogs pulled away as the clock wound down to record a 77-57 win Wednesday.
First-year Spring Mills (4-18) played tough in the first quarter, staying close with the older school as Hezekiah Dupree opened things with a layup. However, Martinsburg's Elisha Freeman answered with a basket of his own to tie things at 2-all.
From there, the teams traded one-point leads through most of the quarter.
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Spring Mills' Ulysses Megargee (10) tries to dribble around Martinsburg's Jessiya Villa (31) during the first quarter. (Journal photos by
Ron Agnir)
Spring Mills' Michael Henderson (15) shoots a 3-pointer from the wing.
Martinsburg's Jerrell Jones (14) pulls down an offensive rebound in front of Spring Mills Hezekiah Dupree.
Martinsburg's Tory Lee (4) bobbles a pass in the paint in front of Spring Mills Hezekiah Dupree.
Martinsburg's Jason Hill (21) looks to make an outlet pass after a pulling down a defensive rebound in front of Spring Mills Hezekiah Dupree.
"I'm not sure we came out mentally prepared," Martinsburg coach Dave Rogers said.
It wasn't until Jason Hill completed a 3-point play late in the quarter that the streak was snapped. Martinsburg took a 15-11 lead, but Alex Rideout knocked down a 3-pointer after grabbing a loose ball to pull the Cardinals back to within one.
Raekwon Jackson followed with another 3-ball to put Spring Mills up by two, but Jerrell Jones answered with a 3-pointer of his own to regain the lead for Martinsburg, sparking a 11-0 run that continued into the second quarter.
"We kicked into gear in the second quarter," Rogers said.
Martinsburg held the Cardinals to just nine points in the second quarter to pull ahead by as many as 12.
"I think our kids played the absolute hardest game they played all year," Spring Mills coach Joel Silver said, proud of the improvement his team showed. "I think we had a bad second quarter."
The Bulldogs came out even stronger in the second half, going on a 12-0 run to open the third quarter.
"Our press really told the tale," Rogers said. "Our press took over."
Martinsburg created turnovers, which it was able to turn into points in the second half.
Freeman closed the Bulldogs run with a pair of foul shots to put his team ahead 50-26, part of his game-high 19-point performance.
"He's doing a great job right now," Rogers said.
As the third quarter wound down, the Cardinals found their touch beyond the arc. Spring Mills made nine 3-pointers, coming from six different players.
Ulysses Megargee knocked down a 3-pointer and Bryant Schuech hit two near the end of the quarter as Martinsburg let up some on its press.
"We worked all week on taking the dribble-drive away," Rogers said, adding each player needs to contain his man so the other players can do their job.
Despite the practice, Martinsburg left some lanes open, allowing Spring Mills to come back from being down 20 to being within 14 at the buzzer.
With the win, Martinsburg moves on to the sectional semifinal game tonight at Hedgesville. The last time Martinsburg played at Hedgesville, the game stayed pretty close until the end, and the Bulldogs know what they're up against.
"We know they're going to be very good up on their home court," he said.


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I started working out in the mornings because when i go to the gym at night, i tend to **** around with my friends and I am less effective at getting stuff done. But when i workout in the mornings around lunch time i just crash. Is there any benefits to doing workouts in the morning vs at night? Can anyone recommend things i can eat/drink that will help me from crashing? Also should i eat breakfast before working out? I have just been drinking a protein shake after my workout and maybe thats the cause. thanks in advance for your advice.
Thread: Morning workout vs night workout
Morning workout vs night workout
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Preference -- you may choose to beleive the following or not, but this is what ive gathered over the years from reading / listening; Ive never applied it so thus dont know if its true or not.
Mornings Lifts
+ everything you eat for rest of day is all recovery food
+ Due to bodies mechanics = best time to workout for burning calories due to metabolism
+ Gets it done and over with so you dont have the rest of the day to run you down, or for things to come up which will prevent your night workout from happening
- Have to get up earlier or delay rest of day by X amount of time
- Doesnt leave much time for a pre-workout food / supps
- May indeed tire you out for rest of day
Night Lifts
+ Give you the day to focus, energize, or use supps
+ Sleep soon after = best form of recovery
+ Can sleep in a little later or get out of work on time
- day may tire you out or allow urself to talk out of the gym
- Some find it hard to sleep soon after working out hard due to ur body "waking" up
- Not much time remaining for recovery foods."Fitness is a journey not a destination"
I personally work out during both mornings and nights...
If I got no morning shift at work I'm at the gym around 8 am for 2 hours and can just keep going.. For me I think morning is good because I got tone of energy.. I am one of those early morning people can wake up at any time and have energy
When I work out during nights, I'm there for about an 1.4h-1.3h just depends who I go with and how long they work out for.... but I would say that the work out goes a bit different for me, not going so explosively during the workouts......
In your case if you are crashing you need to figure out the time of the day when You got tone of energy always... When I go in the morning I dont eat anything, some I know eat because food will give you energy.... maybe try taking a pre-workout drink???
I take VPX NoShotGun... good stuff been taking for about 1.2 years,, I use it to give me more strenghts and those extra reps during workout,,, really works
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Morning > Night Workouts
It's tough with a 9-5 job, but I love working out in the mornings, that way I feel great all day, like I really got up and brought it early on. I am personally more productive at work after a morning run, cardio session or weight lifting P90X DVD. I work out on an empty stomach, or with a 1/2 of a Powerbar in me. Just enough to keep me going but not enough to make me feel full, bloated or having the possibility of cramping. Working out at night is good for the weekends when I need to blow off some steam or I know I can stay up late. I don't like dreading a workout all evening and then finally getting done late and have to go to bed shortly after. But do what makes YOU comfortable.
if you're going to exercise in the morning try eating something really light before bed like fruit or a protein shake. when i was lifting in the mornings i would eat a half cup of oatmeal (also tried out lettuce) before heading to the gym. oatmeal is very easy to digest, so even though i only had about 20 mins to let it sit before i started exercising at such a small amount i never felt bogged down or sluggish. try it out, helped me get over the "worn out" feeling post workout.
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How about during lunch?
If you can, I recommend working out during lunch time. It makes the work outs short and seriously intense since you have limited time. I drink mad coffee in the mornings, eat an oatmeal (1 hour before workout lunch time)... work out like crazy for 40 min and then save the other 20 min for traveling to gym and eating lunch u brought from home.
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try No Xplode. Does miracles for waking me up for the morning lifts. I always have a Protein shake before and after as well. Of course I mix with water not milk so the calories are low. Tastes like crap thoughSquat 375
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The biggest & most variable issue is how the timing of formal exercise causes individuals to behave later that day. Studies show some people to lower their NEAT for the rest of the day, either as a conscious or subconscious compensatory response to the exercise. Often, overall daily expenditure drops. Activities of daily living (ADL) are arguably the prime behavioral buffer preventing weight gain in the average person. And for some, exercise diminishes this chance to create a comparatively greater energy expenditure than an hour or two in the gym could.
It's a phenomenon that I experience, which is why I tend to train in the evening, when I personally become more inactive anyway. The workout gives me one last "bump" in expenditure before I hibernate.
It's either that or deliberately trying to keep yourself busy after your morning session, if you have that problem. So if you have a morning shift, that's a plus.Ice Cream/Army Blog:
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Morning has health benefits
You may want to take that into account.
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The former faces greater burden than the latter, if for no other reason than the football transition, arguably, already has happened.
Nevertheless, Michigan basketball closed the gap in tangible results last year, merely by playing in the NCAA tournament after a decade's absence, even as the Spartans came within one victory of a national championship.
Within two years, U-M also will close the perception gap when it finishes long-overdue construction on a $23.2 million, 57,000-square-foot basketball facility akin to those virtually every other school its size has, complete with practice courts and full support facilities for strength and conditioning, video study and administrative functions.
Allowing Michigan's basketball program to atrophy while feeding the football beast let Tom Izzo and Michigan State take absolute control of the state and region.
Michigan basketball isn't there yet, and with Michigan State a consensus top-three team, preseason predictors don't establish 2009-10 as the year the Wolverines overtake the behemoth.
Yet, in John Beilein's third season as coach, Michigan basketball belief has grown exponentially.
"Hopefully, we get used to that type of image that there are high expectations here," Beilein said Tuesday at U-M's preseason media day. "No one has higher expectations than I do. We want to compete. But I also know we finished seventh in the Big Ten. We didn't finish first or second and have everybody back. We finished seventh."
The Wolverines will appear in practically every preseason poll.
The popular magazine Lindy's ranks U-M ninth.
The recognition is big.
The steps untaken, bigger yet.
Beilein ticks off the bad memories by rote, particularly the home loss last year to Michigan State, when the Wolverines "were clearly not ready to win that game."
He sent a long note to his players just before preseason practices, stressing they still are the hunters, not the hunted. The Wolverines won one game in the NCAA tournament last year. They also were one loss from the NIT.
"You see all those preseason projections and all those things? No. As long as I'm coaching here, we're always hunting, no matter who the opponent is," Beilein said.
The emergence of some interior depth could make this team look different from last year's guard-heavy group.
Terrifically talented Manny Harris and backcourt mates Stu Douglas and Zack Novak still will be centerpieces, along with sophomore Laval Lucas-Perry, but Michigan also wants to see how 7-foot center Ben Cronin, who missed his first season with an injury but ran a 5:53 mile Tuesday, emerges.
The 6-10 freshman Blake McLimans also could change the makeup of this year's team and allow DeShawn Sims and Zack Gibson to play swingmen roles to which they are best suited.
How to handle the point could be the most important development. True freshmen Darius Morris and Eso Akunne could factor into that role immediately.
The difference between Michigan and nationally elite programs is that the latter play for high tournament seedings and favorable bracket placement, while the Wolverines just play to qualify.
Achieving that goal last year changed how Michigan basketball is framed, both regionally and nationally.
"I guess it lent so much, my favorite word is credibility, credence, those ideas, to what we were trying to accomplish: teamwork, cohesiveness, a bunch of talented players who worked together," Beilein said.
The Wolverines have not caught the Spartans. Maybe they won't during the Izzo era.
But as U-M's new facility construction is pending, its roster construction already has filtered talent and depth throughout the classes better than any point this decade.
And as people start to get a little comfortable outside the program, the coach forbids it: "We can't lose that hard edge," he said.
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Warner Recalled, Clarke Returns in ODI Squad
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Last Updated: 31st December 2013 01:37 PM
David Warner has been recalled and Michael Clarke returns as captain of Australia's limited-overs team for the five-match ODI series against England starting Jan. 12.
Australia selectors announced the 14-man squad on Tuesday, three days before the test team attempts to sweep with Ashes series in the fifth test in Sydney.
Warner, who was dropped from the ODI squad due to poor form ahead of the October tour to India, regained his place due to his weight of runs in the test series and domestic cricket.
"David Warner has won back his place in the Australia ODI squad with his outstanding recent form," chief selector John Inverarity said.
Clarke, Shaun Marsh and paceman James Pattinson, who were all unavailable for the India tour due to injuries, have been recalled.
Pattinson made a successful return with the Melbourne Renegades in a domestic Twenty20 win over Brisbane Heat on Monday night, taking 3-36 off his four overs, and should form an explosive combination with test paceman Mitchell Johnson — the standout bowler during the India series and during Australia's four recent test wins against England.
Opener Warner returns at the expense of Phil Hughes, while Adam Voges, Moises Henriques and Callum Ferguson also lost their spots in the squad. George Bailey, who led the ODI team in Clarke's absence, is vice-captain for the England series.
Australia squad: Michael Clarke (captain), George Bailey (vice-captain), Nathan Coulter-Nile, Xavier Doherty, James Faulkner, Aaron Finch, Brad Haddin, Mitchell Johnson, Shaun Marsh, Glenn Maxwell, Clint McKay, James Pattinson, David Warner, Shane Watson.
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April 25, 2006, 12:24 PM
I have only recently been made aware with Paypal's antigun policy so I am stuck without a method for paying for online goods. Is there a popular enough alternative?
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April 25, 2006, 12:26 PM
Postal money orders. ;)
April 25, 2006, 12:36 PM
Welcome back to the 1900's.
No, unfortunately, there isn't a good widely-accepted electronic currency alternative to Paypal. Yet.
I think in the next few years, we'll see some interesting things happening in this area. There's been a lot of talk (and some preliminary efforts) at building an offshore data haven, which would almost certainly include its own bank, and therefore its own electronic-only currency. Makes a lot of sense when you consider the way the economy gets a little more global every day.
Sounds a little bit far-fetched, I know - but trust me, there are tons of libertarians in the high-tech industry who would love to make this happen sooner rather than later.
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April 25, 2006, 12:45 PM
Sounds like we've got a Neal Stephenson fan in our midst? :D
But yes, an offshore, accepted, and recognized electronic currency based on strong encryption that's also anonymous, and untraceable, would be an insanely powerful tool.
It could literaly undermine the nation-state as we know it. Money that can't be traced can't be taxed. Nor could it be siezed or blocked.
The governments of the world would literaly have to either destroy the bank through military action, or shut down the Internet. Strong encryption, if set up correctly, would make "counterfitting" nearly impossible. So the offshore e-bank could easily delegate transactions to blind and anonymous proxies, or even peer-to-peer systems which would make filtering or blocking nearly impossible. If you look at the kind of things people are doing to swap music "safely", or get around the censorship in China, you start to get the faintest hint of the possibilites.
That would make things a bit interesting for sure, and not just on GunBroker.
April 25, 2006, 12:55 PM
Oh, absolutely. Stephenson's Cryptonomicon is what got me interested in the whole subject of data havens and electronic money in the first place. I've been following the subject pretty closely ever since, and there have been some (quiet) developments in the last year or two that make me think we're probably 5 years away from a true 'international' currency. For the NWO (New World Order) conspiracy freaks on here, let me just say that we're not talking about a UN-adopted currency. We're talking about an extra-national currency, beyond the control of any one government, or any group of goverments, for that matter.
A lot like the internet. :)
Makes a lot of sense though, when you think about it. Yesterday I bought some stuff from a guy in India. The money had been direct deposited into my account by my employer, I moved it from there to another account with another bank, used that account to buy a Western Union money order online, e-mailed him to let him know it was on the way. He picked it up and deposited into his bank. So that money has gone from dollars to rupees, halfway around the world, and has never seen paper.
April 25, 2006, 12:59 PM
I read on www.gunbroker.com when I signed up there, I read about methods of payment. Turns out, paying with a credit card gives you certain legal protections that paying with a check or Paypal doesn't. I personally prefer to only buy in person but if I'm going to continue shooting my gun, I'm going to have to get a pre-paid Visa card so I can buy ammo online.
April 25, 2006, 02:32 PM
We're talking about an extra-national currency, beyond the control of any one government, or any group of goverments, for that matter.
The only thing is, if you have a bank beyond anyone's regulation or control like that...
...what happens if you get a bad apple in there? A Ken Lay?
Just imagine the destruction the collapse of that could cause, as someone bailed out with their extorted golden parachute and vanished...
April 25, 2006, 02:38 PM
Paypal's not bad, we just need to take control of 51% of its stock:neener: Bidpay was neat while it existed, but I never got to recieve any payments by it.
How hard is it for an individual to be able to accept cc's directly? I noticed many of the processors are not very friendly to our types.
April 25, 2006, 02:47 PM
I noticed many of the processors are not very friendly to our types.
If visa ever calls you and asks what the 2000 dollar charge to someone halfway across the country is, just say "spinners". ;)
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April 25, 2006, 03:03 PM
Is there a popular enough alternative?
PayPal is by far the most popular.
I am currently looking into this site's services: gearpay.com (https://www.gearpay.com/index.php?x=home&)
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April 25, 2006, 04:45 PM
The only thing is, if you have a bank beyond anyone's regulation or control like that...
...what happens if you get a bad apple in there? A Ken Lay?
Just imagine the destruction the collapse of that could cause, as someone bailed out with their extorted golden parachute and vanished…
I would argue that the Ken Lay's, and things like the Savings & Loan scandal of the 80's happened under the government's watch. It's also arguable that government regulation and oversight is what creates the loopholes that allows some of these things to happen. I think the free market can do no worse, and with no FDIC "safety net" to make people sloppy, and the e-bank offering the highest security and privacy getting all the customers in a pure market solution, it's possible you might get a bank that's fraud-proof.
There's ways to set such a bank up that makes raiding it unlikely. Such a baink might even be "open source" after a fashion, where all the users can monitor the bank's activity in such a way that the banks operations are transparent to all it's users, but privacy is maintained. You'd have millions of hackers, governments, drug dealers, math/economic/game-theroy professors, the mob, and cranky libertarians all looking over their shoulder.
I'd rather try and decieve the IRS or the FDIC, then the massed forces of the entire Internet any day of the week. :D Just look how they all jump down Microsoft's throat when they find a security bug, and that's just for their own personal gratification… If it was their money on the line? Holy… better watch out...
And as I alluded to in my earlier post, such an "e-bank" that uses mathematical mony based on un-forgable encryption, it would be impossible for your money to be "taken" unless you give the encryption key, even by the "banker" himself. And if there is a crack in the encryption, someone with enough computing power to steal your funds (we're talking more computing power on earth, perhaps the universe, with tough enough encryption.) Would be so rich (and nearly God-like over so many other aspects of our lives), why bother ripping you off?
If it's set up right, the worst a corrupt banker could do is destroy the bank, but he would lose all his money like everyone else. And if it's a distributed system with no central point of control, just like the Internet, or the peer-to-peer music sharing networks, there's no way to dominate the bank without destroying the entire net. It could even be set up like those distributed computing projects like the cancer thing, or SETI@home where instead. millions of members around the world keep a tiny chunks of "the bank" on their home PC's with massive redundancy around the globe.
The "money" would be kind of like PGP, where there's a public key, and a private key. The public keyblock is out there for everyone to see, but it's still encrypted, and can be used by anyone to send you a private message that only you can unlock. Your money would be the same way. You pay someone, or they pay you, and it's encrypted with the public key, and the private key unlocks the money to accept it. All the bank knows is that some person or business with a key encrypted X amount of money, and sent it to someone who could unlock it. They have no idea who they are, where they are, or what it was for, nor do they care, in fact, they actively don't want to know...
Such a system, if it it was widely accepted (and this is the A-1 BIG "IF" just like any money or banking system that's come before it), may well be unstoppable, to the point governemtnts will have to capitulate as their reserve banks become iirelevant, and their ability to tax dissapears. If enough people and businesses adopt such a system faster than governments can crack down on it, it would reach an unstoppable critical mass. You then may see a period in human history where no one is forced to pay for something they don't want ever again.
Such a monetary system would be more revolutionary than the Internet itself.
April 25, 2006, 06:46 PM
Turns out, paying with a credit card gives you certain legal protections that paying with a check or Paypal doesn't. I personally prefer to only buy in person but if I'm going to continue shooting my gun, I'm going to have to get a pre-paid Visa card
IANAL so as always I could be wrong but my understanding is that a "prepaid" Visa card is a type of debit card which does NOT carry the extra legal protection that a real credit card does.
Please do not ask details I do not remember them. I was told this by a bank when I was getting debit card.
Are there any bankers and or lawyers who do know for sure ?
April 25, 2006, 09:12 PM
Paypal's antigun policy
Dang them how dare they set their own rules for how they want to run a business:mad: Bunch of stinking decadent capitalist dogs, Viva Revoltion!
April 25, 2006, 09:16 PM
Dang them how dare they set their own rules for how they want to run a business.
They are completely, 100% free to run their business as they see fit. No one has suggested that they be forced or compelled to do otherwise.
I, as a consumer, am also completely, 100% free to take my business elsewhere if I disagree with those policies.
April 25, 2006, 10:22 PM
Absolutely, so use Gearpay, set up for firearm people.
April 26, 2006, 05:56 PM
Do groups like gunbroker and auctionarms take Gearpay?
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One of the largest musical instrument, software, and now even app (!) trade shows in the world, NAMM, was in my neck of the woods recently, peddling its wares on the side of Harbor Boulevard for a couple of days at the end of January.
What was originally named the National Association of Music Merchants was founded in 1901 and has been held yearly at the Anaheim Convention Center in Anaheim, California directly across the street from Disneyland, Disney's California Adventure and an IHOP.
Containing thousands of booths showcasing the latest in musical instruments, books, and accessories, NAMM is the number one location not only for checking out what's new and exciting in the world of music, but also a way to possibly brush elbows with some famous musicians as well.
During past years, I've met Richard Devine, Mick Fleetwood, Joey DeFrancesco, Kyle Gass, Jimmy Smith, Carlos Santana, and more scantily clad women than you would think would ever want to pose next to off-brand guitar straps.
But it's not all about the celebrities, the large-scale business deals going down, or even the gorgeous girls they pay just to show up. Even if you think conventions aren't for you, consider sticking around to check out the Top Nine Tales from Winter NAMM 2013, and maybe find out a few things you might not have learned elsewhere:
9. Chord Dice
Oddly enough, despite the thousands of new and popular products at NAMM, it's rare to find anything that deals with the actual creation of music. Sure, some new instrument might spark something inside of you, but they aren't created solely for that purpose.
Enter: Chord Dice, a company from Texas whose product focuses specifically on two things rarely represented at a musical instrument convention: tackling writer's block, and to a lesser degree, imparting a bit of music theory. Sure, Alfred Music Publishing comes to mind, but they aren't half as fun as these dice can be.
Trying to write a catchy song but feel like you are all out of ideas? Just give these dice a roll and get a new progression every time. Don't like what you get? It's as simple as re-rolling. These dice can be an wonderful aid for guitarists, pianists and especially anyone who focuses on writing songs, but might feel creatively bereft from time to time.
As of this writing, Chord Dice unfortunately only come in a limited variety, with only two keys available for purchase: C major and G major, but they also offer a special "extended chords" accessory to make your standard voicings more complex.
While it would seem to be a no-brainer to expand their line to include all 12 major keys, it might be a bit unwieldy for the average songwriter to carry along so many dice and not end up in a dungeon or fighting a dragon.
Still, considering the price, it's definitely worth a look if you are a songwriter, no matter what genre you happen to play.
For More Information: www.chorddice.com
8. Auria
It might be old news to some, but after making a showing at last years NAMM, Wavemachine Labs returned again this year with their flagship creation: Auria. It's an app exclusive to Apple's online store that provides a full recording experience on your iPad, including 24 simultaneous tracks of 24bit / 96kHz and a sound quality that rivals most DAWs.
What makes Auria even more impressive is that there are lots of quality plug-ins from top tier companies like PSP and Drumagog, extensive features like side-chaining and advanced editing, and the ability to export directly to SoundCloud, Dropbox, mp3 and more...all from the comfort of your portable device.
Combined with Apple's recently released 128Gb 4th generation iPad, all you need to do to have a pretty decent recording set-up is to get some microphones, a half-decent mic pre or two and some cables and you are good to go...well, just about anywhere.
So what this means for all the lazy recording engineers out there is that you could technically record your next album entirely while you were on your toilet.
Not bad, huh?
For More Information: www.auriaapp.com/Products/auria
7. Fairlight CMI
While the Auria might reflect the future of the music industry, this next item definitely has it's footing firmly in the past.
The Fairlight CMI was the worlds first digital sampler, costing over $20,000 and was used by artists such as: Stevie Wonder, Herbie Hancock, Yes, Peter Gabriel ("Shock The Monkey"), and lots and lots more before becoming discontinued in the mid-80's.
A few years ago however, the original creator of the Fairlight, Peter Vogel, announced for their thirtieth anniversary a "retro" CMI-30A to be released that has the look and feel of the original 1979 version but has been updated to rely on the latest technology, what they refer to as a "Crystal Core Media Engine".
As is the case with everything that comes out nowadays, there is also an corresponding app available for the iPhone, iPod Touch, and the iPad.
For More Information: www.fairlight.com.au
6. DJ TechTools
One of the few booths at NAMM that focused on something other than a particular instrument or brand is DJTechtools, a website that contains an amazing wealth of knowledge for the DJ and electronic music community, including reviews, instructional videos and an active and loyal fan base consisting of over 50,000 members.
Birthed from the now-defunct pages of REMIX magazine, DJTT not only reports on the music but also helps to make it, creating and selling a plethora of their own Midi controllers and accessories for users and fans worldwide.
One of their newest Midi controllers is the Midi Fighter Spectra, with new features like full-color lighting and popular arcade-style quick fire buttons which make it very nearly the next generation of MPC-style pad performing, only this time you'd think you were trying to input the cheat to play Sheng Long instead of making a beat.
The older, but still pretty awesome Midi Fighter 3D allows you to morph and change the sounds based on the movement of the controller itself, basically tilting and turning it changes any Midi-based parameter on your DAW, so people will now think you are extra insane when you perform live.
Which really isn't a bad thing.
For More Information: www.djtechtools.com
5. Livid Instruments
Created in Austin, Texas in 2004, Livid Instruments has been making a name for themselves as a company that excels in producing Midi controllers for all types of musical applications. Some of their products are used by such artists as: DJ Shadow, Jamie Lidell, Eliot Lipp, Henry Strange, ill.Gates, and many more.
Livid premiered their brand new midi controller called BASE at NAMM this year, and BASE boasts 32 pressure-sensitive pads that light up in a wild array of colors, 9 touch-sensitive sliders, 8 touch-sensitive buttons, and 8 momentary buttons all of which are completely assignable to fit your style of play, whether you are using the BASE for drums, synths, or even just navigating your set.
Of course it works effortlessly with Ableton Live, Max MSP, Traktor (and more) and is available right now for pre-sale for the price of $399 until March 1.
But what makes Livid really stand out isn't just their line of pre-assembled controllers, but the possibility of creating your very own controller exactly the way you want it.
Livid has taken out the guesswork and tedious schematic researching and can deliver to you a reasonably priced kit based on your desired specifications. Need more buttons than knobs? Or no knobs at all? Or nothing but knobs? Or something even crazier?
With their "Builder" line of make-it-yourself parts and pieces, Livid Instruments allows you to make a midi controller the way you want, using customizable modules like the Brain Jr., the Brain v1 or the Brain v2. With all these possibilities you could be well on your way to making something that fits your style of playing perfectly without making any compromises along the way.
If you have a little know-how and some money, Livid has you covered.
For More Information: www.lividinstruments.com
4. 3-D Cube
The age of additive manufacturing is here, making an appearance at NAMM showcasing the inevitable future of design and production, and believe it or not, what they were showing in this small booth downstairs is going to change how we do business in music.
3d Systems, a company from South Carolina, specializes in 3-D Imaging and printers, which includes their Cubify brand of physical desktop printers, are notable within the industry for developing stereolithography, an additive manufacturing process that involves UV rays back in the 80's, but today are focusing on the future.
But you're a musician, right? So what's in it for you?
How about a custom-made guitar with your band's logo on it? No problem at all. Lose a pick? Make a new one right now, in any shape or thickness you want. Break a keyboard key or knob? Don't send it in for repair, replace it yourself and make it exact way the original knobs looked and felt, only better.
With one of these babies you could make a new iPhone case exactly the way you want it, or quickly replace that missing Lego piece you lost under the couch. It's as simple as learning a program like Google SketchUp, firing up your printer and popping out whatever you can dream of.
Companies like 3d Systems and Makerbot are pioneers in the 3-D manufacturing world, changing not only the entertainment industry with their consumer-sized printers, but even affecting the fields of aerospace, health care, education, and the automotive industry among many others. Even dentistry and architecture could all benefit from the innovations of 3-D printing.
Come on people, we are literally one step closer to a real-life replicator! I knew I shouldn't have put this at only #4!
For More Information: www.cubify.com
3. Holloway Harp Guitars
Sure, they have plenty of guitars at NAMM, lots of em. But not many that looked like this:
What's that you say? You've never heard of a Harp Guitar before? Well, are you in for a treat.
A Harp Guitar is a 200-year-old stringed instrument used by the likes of Pat Metheny, Robbie Robertson, Jimmy Page and many others, and look like an acoustic guitar got frisky with a harp and this abhorrent aberration shot out of the union. In reality, they are hand-made and manufactured in the modern era by companies like Holloway Harp Guitars.
What makes a one of these so special is that it uses additional (usually six) open-tuned strings in addition to the six regular strings a normal acoustic guitar would have.
Pretty crazy, right? Why don't we take another look at a Harp Guitar in action, before we ruin this beautiful acoustical moment with some more electronic noise making machines:
For More Information: www.hollowayharpguitars.com
2. ElectroFaustus
Something I've always thought about: Why do guitarists always get the best stomp boxes and pedals?
Well, New York based ElectroFaustus is making huge strides in rectifying that situation, creating a small line of creative noise makers that expand the boundaries of what a stomp box can be, and leaving behind the idea that they are only for guitarists.
Great sounding effects and sound modules like the Dual Oscillator, the Quad Oscillator, the Photo Theremin, the Drum Thing, the Drum Thing Mini, the bitchin' Guitar Disruptor, and my favorite, the Regurgitator, are all high-quality, affordable and most importantly sound good.
Watch the Photo-Theremin in action, direct from the show:
Unfortunately, they don't sell direct from their website, but I'm sure if someone from ElectroFaustus is reading this they can just send me a Regurgitator or the awesome Guitar Disruptor directly to my house for free, and we'll just call it even.
For More Information: www.electrofaustus.com
1. Vocaloid
Do you like your favorite musical artists to always be in perfect pitch, never miss a show, and well, never even age?
You don't know it yet, but the product you might be interested in is called "Vocaloid", developed initially by Yamaha to be a "singing voice synthesizer" as a way to replicate not only the pitches and timbre of the human voice, but also the words and lyrics as well.
At this stage, it's too rough around the edges to be a complete replacement for your lead singer, but after a few years there is no doubt how this could, can and most likely will change the music industry.
Because, in fact, the change is already beginning.
Meet Miku Hatsune. She's a 16 year old girl from Japan with green hair dolled up in pigtails, born at the end of August. Like most teenage girls, she loves to sing and dance, but unlike most girls I know, she just so happens to be a famous Japanese pop star, singing to millions of fans worldwide.
But that's not what sets her apart.
Miku isn't a girl. Not really, at least. She's actually a synthesized marketing tool that utilizes the Vocaloid software, and when she performs live in front of the thousands of adoring fans who sing along to every word of her songs, she appears like Tupac does nowadays: as a hologram.
Here's a rousing look at Miku Hatsune performing live:
Certainly, her fans couldn't care less about the fact that she has been mass-marketed, utilizes an obscure slice of vocal software, or is slightly opaque. They love the music, and a part of them must adore the idea that she will never age, or fumble her lines, or even end up on TMZ, drunken and belligerent.
In many ways, she is the perfect product for the music industry.
Miku Hatsune, which is Japanese for first (初 hatsu), sound (音 ne) and future (Miku (ミク), might very well be the first of many "processed" pop stars that could infiltrate our radio stations, our TV commercials, and adorn our children's walls.
Like a streamlined, incredibly efficient version of the same processes that created the boy and girl bands of the last twenty years (such as The Backstreet Boys, The Spice Girls and One Direction), this use of the Vocaloid software to create the perfect pop idol only further expands the boundaries of what being an "artist" really means.
But does this truly change the music business?
Check out this video below comparing Miku Hatsune to Tumblr phenom Lana Del Rey, and see if even being human is a pre-requisite for being a musician anymore:
So it's settled: Lana Del Rey isn't a real person.
For More Information: www.vocaloid.com/en or Vocaloid - Wikipedia
That's it for NAMM 2013, it's been great checking out the newest and weirdest stuff of the show, and I hope you learned something that didn't push something else out of your brain, like how to drive, or how to eat an Oreo.
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Education took Allen Bonnell from impoverished Hogan's Alley on East 19th Street in Erie to the role of founding president of Philadelphia Community College.
A graduate of Academy High School, he had degrees from Oberlin College and the University of Bonn and earned his doctorate from the University of Illinois.
"It was my education that got me out of Hogan's Alley," Allen told me in 2008, when he was 96. His 97-year-old sister, Jeanette, a retired school librarian, lived in assisted living in Erie, but he couldn't visit because of his age. Communicating by phone was hard because Jeanette didn't hear well.
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Jeanette, 99, died in 2010. Allen's obituary ran last Sunday; he was 101.
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Nyok, who came to Erie almost 10 years ago as a refugee, earned his undergraduate degree from Penn State Behrend, is working on his master's in public administration at Gannon University and works for Scott Enterprises. He is from South Sudan, the newest independent African nation.
The African Unity celebration, an "all-American barbecue," included former refugees, professionals and students from Kenya, Ghana, Burundi, Congo, Sudan, Ethiopia, Nigeria and Eritrea.
"Celebrating 50 years is a reminder of how far the continent has come since independence," he said. "The heads of states were ready (in 1963) to start new institutions, new capacities, to match their people to a new path of economic prosperity. The dream of unity throughout the continent is progressing but is slow due a variety of reasons -- conflict, poor governance, lack of democracy and poverty."
Africa also faces problems caused by climate change and disease, he said.
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We have purchased vehicles from Detroit and the Detroit metro area since we first opened our doss for business, and sometimes for a special model we do not have in stock we go much further.
To the delight of my Grandchildren, E&M employees and Dan Gornay turned an old truck into a replica of tow mater in the movie CARS. We soon discovered all children were overjoyed at seeing our version of towmater. Since that time we have honored many requests to bring "our Mater" to benefits, schools, and parades, to delight the old and young alike. A gift to my Grand Children turned out to bring us a lot of goodwill. We have now added a new addition to E&M and Towmater; we have created a replica of Lighting McQueen!
E&M is open for business at 8:30am every morning until 5:30pm each evening Monday thru Friday. To accommodate those unable to shop during week days we are open on Saturday from 8:30am to 3:00pm. Rain, shine, show, or sleet we are always open. Our address is 42800 Yost Road Canton Michigan 48188; we are on the corner of Vanborn and Morton Taylor. Our Phone number is 734-397-2200, give us a call!


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HP files for trademark on six TouchPad names
We already know all the details on the HP TouchPad that will launch on July 1 if HP sticks to the launch date. You can bet that HP already has other TouchPad tablets in mind for the market, though the future devices might change based on how well received the first TouchPad is. I'm still not convinced that another major tablet OS will do well on the market with Android and iOS already available and garnering most of the developer support between them.