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Google Maps has not been submitted to iOS: "We think it would have been better if they had kept ours"
0. phoneArena 25 Sep 2012, 03:47 posted on
Google chairman Eric Schmidt has just cleared all confusion about Google Maps arriving on iOS - the maps application has not been submitted for approval to the App Store yet…
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1. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Wow, Apple really failed this time... Like, REALLY. Not even trolling, they just did a legitimately horrible job.
24. TheLibertine (Posts: 484; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)
Yeah, they did. Sacrificed our user experience to strike Googles profits - but much more they own image.
Well, Apple Maps is even usable here and there but where is the point in competing with Google in MAPS. Its as if Microsoft would start to produce hardware... Oh wait...
35. ZEUS.the.thunder.god (unregistered)
"Apple is the exception, and the Android system is the common model, which is why our market share is so much higher," Schmidt stressed mentioning that Android's success was widely ignored by the press, which in his words is "obsessed with Apple's marketing events and Apple's branding."
well said sir.
52. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)
And the GOOGLE GODS have spoken:
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So much for their precious OS aka iLOSt.
25. BillyG (Posts: 305; Member since: 24 Sep 2012)
give it time, back then when apple first starting with iOS and few apps in itunes, nokia,motorola, rim, palm etc laughed at them. but few years later, apple is the one that laughing...
28. lyndon420 (Posts: 4377; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
Now everyone is laughing at apple. Go figure...its like apple took 7 steps(years) backwards.
32. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
if you havent noticed, the world has moved past apple. The only peeps that havent noticed are its super loyal ifans and people that still think its a fashion statement of some sort.
Instead of being in such a rush to pull google apps from the device, they should have waited till i0S7 to launch a complete maps product and then get rid of google maps.
Then again, there would be absolutely nothing for iOS6 but bug fixes... yaay. Of course, at this moment, that probably sounds like a good thing compared to Apple maps. lol
42. BillyG (Posts: 305; Member since: 24 Sep 2012)
i agree with you on that, if steve were there, i'm sure he'll give the option of googlemaps alongside applemaps until it fully developed. but i really wish apple could use nokiamaps instead of Gmaps as an app, somehow i prefer nokiamaps rather than Gmaps since i use them mostly (well always...) to find an exact address with exact house number.
55. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
I don't think the world has moved past Apple.
41. BillyG (Posts: 305; Member since: 24 Sep 2012)
it isn't the first time for them being laughed at, as i mentioned before, others will laugh but then the table will turn...
47. AppleHateBoy (unregistered)
Do you think Google will kick back and relax? They will try to make GMaps even better.
FYI Google was one year late in the Mobile Phone Arena as compared to Apple. And yet Google Android is far more popular than iOS. Why?
50. Mr.Mr.Upgrade (Posts: 474; Member since: 30 Aug 2011)
We've been hearing a lot of stories around the Web about how the Apple Maps app in iOS 6 is proving to be a poor replacement for the former Google-powered Maps app in iOS 5. Some of the stories say the Apple app doesn't show certain roads that are obviously there in real life, while others say they've followed directions to a destination and found that they didn't end up where they wanted to go.
For the first post in the series, CNET editors Jason Parker and Jaymar Cabebe took the turn-by-turn navigation through its paces by testing with an iPhone 4S on iOS 6 running the Apple Maps app, and a Samsung Galaxy Note running the recently updated Google Maps for comparison.
This test took place this morning in San Francisco, which has some testing implications to take into account. First, there are multiple routes through the gridlike and steep SF streets; second, there are plenty of one-ways to really put the rerouting features through the wringer; and third, it is close to both Apple and Google (so it's probably covered better than most locations) and also it's one of the most Internet connected places in the United States.
The journey begins
For our first test we went to a general area rather than an address. The theory was that we already know Google can find general locations like Golden Gate Park or Fisherman's Wharf, but we really wanted to know how Apple Maps would perform.
Our target? Crissy Field, which sits right on the bay with a perfect view of the Golden Gate Bridge. To get there we would have to cross San Francisco's main drag, Market Street, navigate the busy streets of downtown, then wind through the Marina neighborhood to our destination.
When we first entered our destination, we noticed that the two apps chose different primary routes, both of which were valid and probably wouldn't change the distance to our destination by very much. So, while the routing algorithms immediately disagreed, we didn't see either one as being better than the other.
Once on the road, both services worked comparably well, save for a few exceptions. Apple failed to deliver a couple of voice instructions on time, which was disturbing, but its routing remained intact. Then, at one point we left part of the route that both apps shared and the apps handled the deviation completely differently. Apple wanted us to go around the block to return to the original route, while the Google app quickly rerouted us in the direction we were going. In this instance, Google was slightly better in reaction time, but Apple eventually caught up after about a block. The rest of the way, the two apps were more or less on par.
When we finally arrived at Crissy Field we found that Google routed us directly into the first parking lot, while Apple sent us past the parking lot to another location further along the road (with no parking lot). Neither option was better per se, but the difference in destination is worth noting.
Back to the office
Our second test of the turn-by-tu
51. Mr.Mr.Upgrade (Posts: 474; Member since: 30 Aug 2011)
rn. By cnet
54. Hammerfest (Posts: 383; Member since: 12 May 2012)
no kidding, and this makes it even funnier:
"We think"
EDIT: my post got nuked... was more here :/
2. eisenbricher (Posts: 973; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)
lol!! This man is a beast!!! Apple seriously need some 'treatment' like this.
16. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
Google just gave apple what it asked for. An ecosystem that's google maps-free, then so be it. :D
27. whysoserious (Posts: 318; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
Not a beast, actually, because this is how I see it:
Jobs: "I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this."
Schmidt: "We want them to be our partner."
Good guy Schmidt.
40. ChiX017 (Posts: 308; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
I luv your picture
3. sbr999 (Posts: 79; Member since: 05 Jun 2012)
Android's success was widely ignored by the press, I can't agree more
4. Savage (unregistered)
Exactly! Apple's grown a lot over-confident over the last few years.
5. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)
the press is "obsessed with Apple's marketing events and Apple's branding."
Couldnt have said it better myself, shame tho...
6. MeoCao (unregistered)
"..Take that Apple",
this is not a joke at all Mr. Schmidt.
17. crankyd00d (Posts: 191; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
That was the classiest flip of the finger I've seen in a while haha.
Mr. Schmidt, you should start wearing the S emblem Superman uses, well done
7. 12Danny123 (Posts: 87; Member since: 18 Aug 2012)
Still don't get Why I updated my Ipad to IOS 6. it feel downgraded to me. Apple failed me. I'll just get an Android phone and a Nokia Lumia 920 for my mapping overseas
8. noim1 (Posts: 297; Member since: 15 May 2012)
Serves apple right..i wish Google does not give them GMaps... Apple thinks that they are the best and they can do anything... Well this should wake them up from their delusions... Way to go Google...
9. AliNSiddiqui (Posts: 382; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)
What would be better is if Google charges 9.99 US Dollars for Google Maps... That would be hilarious!! :)
10. noim1 (Posts: 297; Member since: 15 May 2012)
Hmmm.. That would b great.. That would bring in more money for android development. Considering that ios has a huge amount of users who will practically buy anything...as we have already seen them buy the iPhone 5 with scratches, colour peeling off, dents & leakage...
11. ilia1986 (unregistered)
As someone who just sold his iphone 4 and bought a Galaxy s3 - I say only one thing: Muhahahahaha!! :D
12. thelegend6657 (unregistered)
It's okay , we iOS users get it . It's apple that's at fault first
It will just use waze , Malaysian map and bing maps on safari
13. andro. (Posts: 1998; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
Google should just let those ifans be stuck with the mapping mess apple has forced upon them. Those ifans could haven adventure every day,those maps could help them find airports that don't exist in Irish fields
38. troutsy (Posts: 311; Member since: 17 Feb 2012)
Yeah, the big pile of money that Google could get from Google Maps on the iPhone... they don't need that.
61. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
from what i know about ifans i dont think they need maps..............
the only time they go out is to either:
stand outside there house trying to show off with there iphone
down the apple shop to line up for the ''new'' iphone.
68. Peter27 (Posts: 233; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
Very good post chaoticrazor! Well done.
15. bloodline (Posts: 706; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
android ftw
18. paulyyd (Posts: 338; Member since: 08 Jan 2011)
when google maps was first introduced was it polished and precise as it is today? No. Give it time, I wouldn't be surprised if apple maps surpasses google maps
22. techsavvy.jaz (Posts: 153; Member since: 07 Feb 2012)
It's just not the case of apple maps not being good, but how they were marketed by apple, aggressive marketing, coupled with failed product is what apple is facing now, I am glad that, like always they didnt blame the users, and accepted that the maps app is just a beginning and needs time to get better.
but meanwhile they should have retained GMaps, just my two cents.
26. mad5870 (Posts: 60; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Yeah i agree with you. if you are going to introduce a completly new product for your users then they should have kept google maps and offered apple maps or iMaps(idk what they are calling it) as a beta to its users.
39. _PHug_ (Posts: 444; Member since: 11 Oct 2011)
Such a sheep.
Whether Google maps was polished or not years ago is not the point.
The point is Apple's option isn't polished now and you don't have the freedom to use a better option because your mommy feels this is best for you.
ps. mommy = Apple
45. paulyyd (Posts: 338; Member since: 08 Jan 2011)
Lol is that right? I'm a sheep? you my friend are a fanboy. Big time
so you're telling me there is absolutely no other options then default maps application? Even those mapping apps in the app store? yea thats what I thought
48. willard12 (Posts: 1683; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
How do those other options compare to GMaps? There is no comparison....that's what I thought.
49. paulyyd (Posts: 338; Member since: 08 Jan 2011)
I mean if you really have a hard on for google maps you could always go into safari, open up google maps and use it there.
Thats what I thought
62. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
ok first off you calling another person a fanboy is pretty funny seeing as your obviously a fanboy yourself
second its comes down to the fact apple got arrogant and pulled google maps away from its customers so they didnt have a choice for there own half baked maps
if the situation was apple released there maps with google maps still available they wouldn't look as stupid and greedy right now
63. paulyyd (Posts: 338; Member since: 08 Jan 2011)
Lol right…
I guess you completely missed my comment, if you really have to use google maps, just open the webpage, its not that hard, probably a 10 second process
you sound a little mad broski?
64. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
''you sound a little mad broski?''
wow never heard that before........ohh wait yeah its been used to death.
second why should apple users have to go through that ''10 second process'' when they could of had the app. why should they have to work around apple's failing?
58. darkknight (Posts: 20; Member since: 06 Apr 2012)
Are you kidding? buy a phone just because the company put their pathetic priority before the costumers? No thanx, such company deserves nothing.
19. Odeira (Posts: 242; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)
The Nokia Lumia 920 is Looking Gooooooooooooood Right Now.
20. abhilashpro (Posts: 17; Member since: 25 Jun 2012)
As an Android fan, I think Google SHOULD release maps for iOS. Two reason:
- All said and done, many Apple fans who are not fanboys are really suffering the lack of a maps app, and Android fans should think of their plight.
- This is Google's opportunity to stick to their ethics and release maps regardless of how Apple behaves. (Of course they could make it a paid app.) Yes, once Google Maps comes on iOS, Apple and its fanboys will continue to behave like before as though nothing happened. Nevertheless, Google should not stoop down to Apple's level and practice their same high-handedness.
21. frydaexiii (Posts: 1443; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
Like the article said, it's not Google's call, it's Apples'.
Google would love to release their products for any platform that can bring them money, but Apple is the one who doesn't like Google "leeching" of them.
30. lyndon420 (Posts: 4377; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
Really? And what has apple done lately to deserve any compassion from Google?
31. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Because Google's MO is to be a pretty compassionate and open company far more often than not. Just because Apple's MO is to be the worlds largest greedy selfish A-Hole, doesnt mean Google has to stoop to that level.
Google should give iOS users the full Google Maps experience like we get on Android.
However, I think they should charge 10 bux for it. :) I bet tons buy it after having to deal with Apple maps.
36. RapidCat (Posts: 351; Member since: 12 Jun 2012)
in my opinion, google should wait like 1-3 months before releasing the maps.
charge for $$ not a good idea.
23. CX3NT3_713 (Posts: 2275; Member since: 18 Apr 2011)
F@#$ bloomberg!!! ANDROID FTW
29. lyndon420 (Posts: 4377; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
Yup...either Google shouldn't submit anything to apple anymore, or they should charge through the nose for it.
33. ogtomasx (Posts: 47; Member since: 25 Aug 2012)
Thumbs up if you think Google should charge apple for downloading Google maps $19.99...??
34. ogtomasx (Posts: 47; Member since: 25 Aug 2012)
Come on everyone get involved Lol.....
37. k4j98 (Posts: 60; Member since: 12 Jul 2012)
Wow, that was cocky of him. I love Android, but that was kind of embarrassing of him to act that way...
56. Jobes (Posts: 364; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
Cocky of him??? Lol which company is known for being cocky and arrogant??? I'll hint.. its a "magical revolutionary company" It would be cocky if Google put out an ad that simply says "If its not Google maps.. .. Its not Google maps. Put that in your Apple and smoke it."
43. The_Innovation (Posts: 610; Member since: 18 Jul 2012)
Apple really flopped this one. But we all know what's going to happen. They will slowly make their Maps app better, by dumping huge amounts of money on it to make the data better. However, when you're a company that big, and that popular, you can't afford to do these flops. Even if in one year they manage to fix this, it will be too late. They had to have it perfect, or at least close to perfect like Google Maps before releasing such an amateur application. I'm not on Apple's side, but most of the time they know what they're doing. I'm surprised.
44. speckledapple (Posts: 892; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)
Apple is the kind of company that obviously does not mind taking a hit while it quietly updates its Maps. That is how the company was built and certainly how they thought it would be a great idea for them. The only thing is how many times can they get a reset before its users become indifferent? Its clear Google Maps is better and that just brings the question, how long will users wait.


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The Los Angeles debut of lesbian humorist Lea DeLaria's comedy and music act, "Muff Diva," sold out six shows Thursday through Sunday, earned several standing ovations and,after 11 years of exclusion, seems to continue her journey toward the mainstream.
Improvisation co-owner Budd Friedman has scheduled a March 27 encore performance of her show at his Santa Monica club's cabaret room.
DeLaria also will join the Melrose Improvisation's Friday-night lineup and tape an upcoming segment of "Evening at the Improv."
Despite prior ostracism by mainstream television and clubs, DeLaria had built a substantial following of male and female, gay and straight audiences through the college and alternative performance circuits.
DeLaria, a powerful presence whose manic, campy style hints at a combination of Bette Midler and Robin Williams, weaves hearty be-bop blues and jazz singing around hilariously racy comedy routines about the lesbian experience and social stigmas assigned to homosexuals. She is backed by a terrific four-piece jazz band, the 13th Tribe, so named because all the members are Jewish.
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1. vince | August 13th, 2010 at 6:17 am
nice pics man! another hidden talent? looks like a great fam vacation!
2. wayneandwax | August 13th, 2010 at 10:52 am
aw, thx! yeah, i just dabble in photography, i guess. and i take lots and lots of pictures (these were culled down from almost 1000!), so that always lets some real good ones slip through, even with an ok camera, an unsteady hand, and an untrained eye.
headed back to the cape next week, can't wait. it's like one big sandbox, which the kids especially appreciate.
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My favorite pics are one after the other:
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WARREN - Workers last week began the timely and expensive process of protecting infrastructure inside the former RG Steel Mill against damage from frozen pipes as winter approaches.
The process, which involves adding an anti-freeze-type chemical to the plant's pipes, is necessary if there is any hope of reopening the plant once an operator is located.
Owners have said they plan to find an operator and eventually reopen the idled mill, now under the name BDM Warren Steel Holdings LLC. The plant has been shut down since May after the prior owner filed for bankruptcy protection.
Word of the winterization process came Thursday, one day after property deeds for nearly 1,400 acres in Warren were transferred officially from RG Steel Warren LLC to BDM Warren Steel Holdings, the Aliquippa, Pa., company that purchased the mill out of bankruptcy. The land value is listed at a total of about $4 million. The total purchase price for the business was listed at about $16 million in bankruptcy court.
United Steelworkers Local 1375 president Darryl Parker said the winterization work began about a week ago and should take six to eight weeks to complete. While the process is costly, it is much less expensive than attempting to repair damaged pipes, he said.
A message left seeking comment from Charles J. Betters, one of three partners that bought the mill, was not immediately returned Thursday.
He previously has said he is not a steel operator and planned to look for someone with the knowledge to operate the plant, which he said he believes can be profitable.
According to the purchase agreement, Betters cannot sell the plant for at least nine months. He said it is too early to tell if he would remain as partial owner or sell it outright to a new operator after that time.
Betters has been seeking finances from the state and federal government to help fund the winterization process that some have estimated would cost at least $1 million. The state has been seeking guarantees that Betters and his partners would try in earnest to reopen the mill.
Parker said the United Steelworkers has provided color-coded maps of the Pine Avenue plant to U.S. Rep. Timothy J. Ryan's office to help them understand what is inside the plant and what would be needed to get it operational.
Laura Jones of JobsOhio said last week that talks are ongoing to help with funding the project, but declined to release further details.
''The state of Ohio understands the importance of the Warren facility to the area,'' Jones said.
Beating the cold weather for winterizing isn't the only concern as the clock ticks. New York steel analyst Charles Bradford said that the longer the mill is closed, the more difficult it will be to retain customers.
''It's been closed long enough now that you wonder what is happening with its customers,'' he said.
Bradford noted the future may not be particularly rosy, largely because the steel market is flooded with the industry running at less than 70 percent operating rate. Most steel producers, he said, are predicting that 2013 will be no better.
''They increased the supply of steel where there was no increased demand," Bradford said. ''But maybe somebody is optimistic about the economy.''
Previously, Betters said he was hoping the sluggish economy will pick up following the presidential election and help them to find an operator. He said there is a customer list that can be used in a restart.
In the meantime, the 1,000 laid-off employees are working to find ways to make ends meet.
Parker said many have taken jobs out of the area, driving east into Pennsylvania, south to Poland and west to Canton, many for other manufacturing work. Despite the drive, workers have found ''decent work,'' Parker said.
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RANGOON — A Burma Army soldier who allegedly raped a 13-year-old girl last month in Mon State's Ye Township may escape justice, an ethnic Mon women's advocacy group warned.
The Mon Women's Organization (MWO) raised concerns over the case Wednesday, as a comprehensive report by the Thailand-based Women's League of Burma (WLB) accused the Burmese military of using rape as a weapon in the country's ethnic conflicts.
A Burmese soldier from Infantry Battalion 31 is accused of raping the girl in Kawzar sub-township, southern Ye, on Dec. 24, when her parents were not at home. The girl was discovered by a community leader and reported that she had been tied up and raped, which was confirmed by a medical examination.
The Burma Army's Southeast Regional Command launched an investigation into the case, and the soldier, who has been accused by name, has reportedly been detained at his barracks, according to MWO chair Mi Lawi Han.
The local community has not been officially informed of the detention, however, and MWO is concerned that the soldier will not face proper punishment for the crime. In cases where soldiers are accused of crimes, including rape, it is common for the army to apply its own disciplinary processes, which are opaque and deliver lenient punishments.
The organization last week visited the victim's family, who were concerned that the soldier would not be punished, said Mi Lawi Han.
"They [the military] should inform to organizations and the community if they have taken action against their soldier. We found no one in the community heard anything about this. In fact, they should make public any action about the crime," she said.
MWO is trying to get legal help for the victim and her family—who are afraid to take action against the army—to bring charges in the civilian legal system against the soldier, she added.
Human rights groups based on Burma's borders that work with different ethnic groups frequently report rapes of ethnic women by Burma Army troops, and impunity for the soldiers responsible.
Kachinland News, an ethnic news outlet in Burma's far north, reported that three Kachin women were abducted while traveling on a bus between the Kachin State capital of Myitkyina and Sumpra Bum by soldier from the 298th Light Infantry Battalion (LIB) on Jan. 10. The report said that one woman was raped by a gang of soldiers after the other two managed to escape.
WLB's report, bringing together information for a number of women's groups based in ethnic areas, said it had found more than 100 cases of women and girls being raped by soldiers since 2010. The Kachin Women Association Thailand reported 39 cases of Kachin women or girls raped and the Shan Women's Action Network reported 35 cases for the report.
"Their widespread and systematic nature indicates a structural pattern: rape is still used as an instrument of war and oppression," the report said of the findings. It said allegations of rape by soldiers, which may constitute war crimes, must be independently investigated.
According to a Reuters report of the WLB publication on Wednesday, the US State Department also urged the Burmese government to investigate the allegations, as the United States begins to re-establish military-to-military ties with Burma.
Reuters also quoted Burmese presidential spokesman Ye Htut denying the allegation that rape was used systematically by the Burma Army.
"It's not the policy of our Tatmadaw [military] to use rapes as weapons," presidential spokesman Ye Htut told Reuters.
"If there are rape cases committed by individual members, we try to expose them and take effective action against the offenders. It would be very helpful in taking action against the offenders if those who prepared that report could send us the details of the cases," Ye Htut said, according to Reuters.
Pho Lee Piae committed crimes but he always escaped from arrests, trials and punishments. Soldiers committed countless crimes against humanities and 99% were ignored and escaped. Like fathers like sons. Than Shwe the criminal gave birth many criminals in the military. No wonder!
This is not right.
The army must hand over the criminal to the civil justice department.
That is the only way for the army to stay clear of wrong doing.
The army has no jurisdiction to override civil code.
Otherwise, the accusation that the military is using rape as a weapon is proven correct. They may care not, but the ball is in their court.
Ye Htut himself was a rapist when he was in uniform. If he denies that he is going to Nga-ya Pyi.
Thein Sein administration is so tolerant on crimes committed by his children(soldiers). Rule of law does not exist under his watch. Lawlessness seems democracy to the USDP and Thein Sein administration. Rapists and killers are still running our country. From president and Speakers of both Hlutdaws, and many representatives from USDP and NUP are rapists from Ne Win and Than Shwe's military dictatorships. If lawlessness is USDP's disciplined democracy, I do not want to live in it. So horrible to me.
Where are The Buddhist Monks, not involved in this Rape Case…
Where are The Buddhist Gathering, demanding The Soldier involved in this case
What a Shame
The Accused Soldier should be Photograph and Printed in Irrawaddy and Other Medias
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Sean Payton getting his bucks, where's the bang for the New Orleans Saints?
It can seem like not much, Sean Payton tossing himself on his sword after the mounting Saints losses, his team moving farther from the playoffs and closer to a top 15 pick in the 2009 NFL draft, because the masses become tone deaf as the message turns repetitive.
Fans prefer giving credit over listening to a coach taking blame.
But give Payton this: Never have the Saints played poorly on his watch and the head coach publicly not jumped under the bus, rather than toss someone else under the wheels.
At least he knows the buck stops where the bucks stop.
But the Saints are 4-5 this season, 3-5 since Payton signed a contract extension that probably made him the highest-paid coach in Saints history. As far as bucks go, there hasn't been much bang there for a while.
We've been teetering around (the .500 mark) way too long," linebacker Scott Fujita said after New Orleans' 34-20 loss at Atlanta on Sunday, which put the Saints a game under .500 this season and kept alive the pattern established last season, when they finished 7-9. "We consider ourselves better than that, but we're not."
No, they're not. As Payton quickly will admit, that begins at the top.
And it's no small thing that not much can be done on the fly, nine games into the season. Every decent player already is accounted for unless you really, really want New Orleans to look for front-line help among a rag-tag bunch of street free agents who aren't good enough to play for the Lions, Bengals and Chiefs.
All that can change is what Payton and his staff does. And the previous 25 games, during which the Saints are 11-14, suggests they haven't been willing to change a lot, or that their changes still have left the Saints behind the curve.
Neither says anything good.
In fact, increasingly, the roar from fans is that Payton no longer is the man for the job, a scant two seasons after some of the same people would've proclaimed themselves healed after touching the hem of Payton's coaching shorts.
But calls for the guillotine are premature, folks.
First, they're likely falling on ears deafer than the ones Payton addresses when he accepts responsibility for losses. In September he signed an extension that takes his contract through 2012, and no team owner wants to eat that kind of money and pay two staffs -- one to go away, and one to clean up the mess.
And second, no one can make me believe a coach simply transforms from being the smartest guy in the room to being the village idiot in a couple of years.
The 2006 season, during which Payton pushed every correct button and the Saints won 10 regular-season games and advanced to the NFC championship game for the first time in franchise history, isn't so far removed that anyone can say Payton simply has lost his touch.
Some might argue he never had the touch, given that the Saints' return to New Orleans and the Superdome would've been an emotional advantage that any coach could've funneled in the right direction and rode to a division title, commercial success and Mardi Gras parade grand marshal status. But Payton regularly read his team and its opponents correctly that year.
No, the debate probably better would be whether the Payton Saints are too cutesy, too reliant on deception, too finesse or any number of labels you want to attach. It can be that the Saints coach, despite saying he wants offensive balance, obviously isn't trying hard enough.
The Saints only have been involved in three lopsided games this season -- against Denver when they fell behind 21-3 en route to a 34-32 loss, against Carolina in a 30-7 loss and against Atlanta. That doesn't seem to justify an offensive imbalance in which New Orleans has attempted to pass 62.4 percent of the time.
Too, nothing seems to justify the Saints doing what they have the past 25 games, either.
Payton is smart enough to jump in front of the train and try to absorb the impact. Other than running off kickers and punters as if they're squatters, he pretty much accepts responsibility for what has gone, and continues to go, wrong.
At least he accepts that the buck stops where the bucks stop.
He also should know that no one wants to hear that.
He's supposed to be delivering a lot more bang than this. Two seasons ago isn't long on a calendar but the previous 25 Thursdays, Sundays and Mondays for Saints games have made two seasons ago seem like two decades ago. And that isn't near good enough.
"Some things need to change around here," Fujita said after Sunday's loss.
Yeah, they do. And Payton, more than anyone, is in position to change them.
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""Some things need to change around here," Fujita said after Sunday's loss.
NO KIDDING ! Payton needs to wake up and quit pouting.
If Payton wants balance on offense he should make it so. Gun-slinging from the onset of the game is a sure way to fall behind rendering the team one-dimensional. The plays being called are horrendous and make poor use of a solid offensive attack. Ball control using heavy doses of Deuce McAllister is the key to opening up passing targets. And Brees should do a more convincing fake on the play action pass. The Saints have become lazy and don't pay any attention to detail. And of course it all starts with coaching.
Ok Sean gets the top money but is this group of coaches competitive with the better staffs in the league. I assume his assistants are just as good and positions are also.
We just have to face the fact that we are NOT a good team. We're a mediocre team with a GREAT quarterback, an inconsistently flashy SB (special back), above average WR corps, and solid LB corps (thanks to Vilma). The defensive line is waaaay overpaid and NEVER pressures the opposing QBs (minus S.Ellis...he's a monster), and the DBs...hah, I won't even say anything about them. We ALL know what the deal is with them. To top it all off?...the coaching/play calling could be bested by some HIGH SCHOOL teams I've seen--which is sad, because (as you've said, JD) the play calling was magnificent in 2006. There's also the argument, though, that the opposing DEFs have just adjusted to our offense.
Bottom line: without Brees, this team is in the cellar with CIN, DET, etc. We're giving them WAAAYYY too much credit--talking about their "potential to be good" and such--and all because of their magical run in 2006. Guess what...ALL of these teams have the "potential" to be good. They're all employing the best of the best athletes in the country!! The potential is there! But it's not about potential...it's about EXECUTION.
If they really want to make a statment, make a big one FIRE THE DC! JD is right about not replacing Payton its to early to replace him. Give him credit and where he took us. It would be stupid to fire him! This would not solve the problem! We have had some bad injuries this season we are still close to .500 look at the other teams around the league. We should all be calling for the DC, he is dead weight! You want to make a statment FIRE THE DC!
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Once Again
This coach just doesn't get it. Everyone else can see it, but he just doesn't get it. I wonder when Tom Benson will get it. Sean Payton is not a good play caller. He makes BONEHEAD mistakes. "Yes" over time he may learn to over come this, but this season should answer a lot of questions about Sean Payton and his coaching staff. Sean Payton and the Saints coaching staff's first year is looking more and more like a fluke. The Saints have all the right pieces to be a Super Bowl contender. The problem is
" Sean Payton" The Head Coach and "Gary Gibbs" The Defense Coordinator and the rest of the coaching staff ! No doubt ! There are to many good players on this team, on the offense, and on defense. Also the Saints have the best QB in the NFL, " Drew Brees ". So what's the problem ? The problem is the play calling on offense " Sean Payton" and the defensive schemes Gary Gibbs tries to run. No doubt ..... On offense you have a coach that refuses to run a balanced attack, even knowing that statistically the Saints are 4-14 when Drew Brees has over 41 pass attempts. A coach that refuses to run the ball and give Deuce a chance to become an elite running back once again in this league," Despite the out cry from the fans." A coach that still believes that Reggie Bush can be an every down back and that he can run between the tackles. Why do you think Reggie gets hurt every year mid season. The Saints had a successful year in 2006 because they ran a balanced attack on offense. Doug Marrone thats his name. Doug Marrone Offensive Coordinator of the Saints, Payton should try leting him call the plays one game. Payton can fix the offense. On defense the buck has to stop with Gary Gibbs.This guys defensive scheme is so bad the players look lost out on the field. I just think you can only blame so much on the players. Look at Jason David, Randle Gay, and Arron Glenn all came from successfull defensive schemes and played well. These players just don't all of a sudden come here and their bad players. Its the coaches job to know his players strengths and weaknesses and put the right players in the situation "right scheme" so that they can proform to the best of their ability, and give them a chance to win. Look at Atlanta and Miami basically the same players from last year and their winning. Why ? New coaches that are getting more out of their players, because they know their personal. Does anyone think that the Atlanta Falcons have a more talented team then the Saints? I don't think so, but their winning. Gary Gibbs is the worse defensive coordinator, defensive coach I have ever seen. How many different looks does our defense have? Take a look at Pittsburgh, The Giants, New England. Payton needs to show he has some Bill Parcells in him and take a play out of the Chargers play book and fire this guy. Thats a start. I just don't know why Benson gave Payton a contract extension early in the season. THIS COACH SHOULD BE ON THE HOT SEAT ! HE SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT LOOSING HIS JOB ! Payton needs to make some changes and it starts with firing Gary Gibbs.Then Payton can work on his bonehead play calling. Just maybe he can learn to have a more balanced attack. This is a talented football team...If not this team will be nothing more than a 7-9 football team or worse. And in a few years we will be begging Benson to fire Payton and hire a real head football coach like Bill Cowher or Marty Schottenheimer.
man i'm so frustrated with the underacheivement of sean but i still cant say fire him. i cant see him turning the saints around this year. but dam this team has promise. if he goes for corner, linebacker, have pressley back at dt eith ellis, trade at least will smith or charles grant (i say grant) and we have the same feeling we had again this preseason.
i'm holding out hope that eventually he realizes you cant win with "eventhough the game has been won this way i want to do it that way"
although they look like the chargers with dan fouts and wes chandler(but no defense)i give him credit this is the best offense the saints have seen since thunder and lightning. he just dont no how to use it
Fire the DC! Now how many bad seasons did Bill Cowher or Marty Schottenheimer have? Payton is stil young to early to be calling for him. If you want to play musical coaches then we will be like the Raiders or Lions! Don't give up on him, you don't want to be like the Raiders or Lions then you would be happy with our record now. Becareful for what you wish for. Payton is doing good things considering all the facts. Its the DC that is hurting us. Like I said if they want to make a statement Fire the DC! It really cant be any worse than it is now.
Another writer for the TP being submissive to Payton. Nobody grills this guy, news flash he isnt almighty people!
Name a coach that had to have his play calling duties taking from him twice for two differnt teams? SEAN PAYTON. Why? Well we are seeing why!
If he wants to keep not just this job but his job on another team, he better relinquish his play calling duties fast!
If he wants to throw the ball all darn day, then go coach TT or Hawaii or Tulane.
Another writer for the TP being submissive to Payton. Nobody grills this guy, news flash he isnt almighty people!
Name a coach that had to have his play calling duties taking from him twice for two differnt teams? SEAN PAYTON. Why? Well we are seeing why!
If he wants to keep not just this job but his job on another team, he better relinquish his play calling duties fast!
If he wants to throw the ball all darn day, then go coach TT or Hawaii or Tulane.
Hey elpsaintsfan,
Marty Schottenheimer has 200 wins and 126 losses in his 21 year career. He has only had 2 thats 2 loosing seasons. one in 1998 he went 7-9 and once in 2003 he went 4-12
Bill Cowher has 149 wins and 90 losses in his 15 year career. He has had only 3 thats 3 loosing seasons. one in 1998 he went 7-9 and one in 1999 he went 6-10 and one in 2003 he went 6-10
The 2007 New England Patriots were all about pass, pass, pass. And so are the Saints. A couple of differences: When Brady, Moss, Welker and Stallworth (a receiving corps that never missed a game together) went three and out, there was a defense ready to put them on the field again without the other team putting points on the scoreboard.
Brady broke the record last year for passing TDs. We all know that. And Brees could do the same this year in passing yardage. But what the hell does it accomplish when you come out pass, pass, pass early, fall behind, and go pass, pass, pass to try and catch up?
Again, you poboy-shoveling rube (and I aint saying fire ya just yet), if you don't have a defense ya gotta run the ball and manage the clock. LET THE RUN WORK FOR THE PASS.
ALSO, Don't bother covering your face with that laminated playsheet, EVERYONE KNOWS YOU'RE GONNA PASS PASS PASS.
By the way, we had some years just as competitive as this one and last year (if not more), when Deuce moved the ball downfield and opened up the passing lanes for one stellar receiver, Joe Horn, and an ordinary NFL quarterback.
If it's supposed to be a chess match like they say, for once try plodding instead of predictable quick strikes all the time and leaving men vulnerable. We have an awesome offense, but it hasn't worked to any great effect for the past 26 games!
Your right.. Doug Marrone thats his name. Doug Marrone Offensive Coordinator of the Saints, Payton should try leting him call the plays one game.
Hey DeSchazier,
what coach are you talking about. It's not Sean Payton. I have not heard him once take any responsibility for his inept play-calling, his head in his rear mentality when it comes to knowing what is going on with the team around him, nor anything other than his tomorrow is always brighter responses to what the team needs to do to right the ship. You and your cohorts in the media have kissed up to this clown long enough. Has anyone looked at his record as an assistant coach before he became the head coach of the Saints? Yeah, his offenses put up some big numbers but the teams did not have the best of records. This clown is 21 and 20 in his years as a coach here. Do you think that he is deserving of an extension for 4 more years? You and the rest of the media need to get your heads out of the sand and ask these questions of Payton, Loomis and even the Bensons. If you believe that Payton is not accountable and responsible for the team's dismal record, then you need to report something besides Saints' football, because my friend, you are clueless
I have never heard Payton get hit by any "bus" but have heard him make statements that did not seem like excuses but just coaches speak to keep you guys in the media from questioning him seriously about the real reasons that his team did not perform well or win a game. "We had the best week of practice last week", but he could not tell you why that did not translate to the game on Sunday.
I'm tired of hearing all of you TP experts letting the guy off of the hook and making excuses for him. Sure his assistant coaches will be let go, but the problem is Payton, If his assistants can fix this, then one of them should be the head coach. Are you folks in the media afraid that the Saints will cut you out if you do not make gah-gah over their genius coach?
He don't have the chance to have that Bus run over him because you clowns never ask a heated or controversial question of that dufus. Listen to a Cowboy's press conference, or read the Houston Chronicle to hear what they say about their coach Gary ?Kubiak. Wade and Kubiak don't get by like you allow Payton to.
I have not heard one question about why the Saints gave him that extension. Is it because they plan on leaving after 2012 and need the coach to run the team in the ground before they leave.
payton is a jackass. Good job benson, glad he signed on for several more years of this.
The BANG is the sound of the door being slammed shut on a losing season. They will get 2 more wins: KC and Detroit. They will end up 6-10. Oh well, maybe next year.
The BANG is the sound of the door being slammed shut on a losing season. They will get 2 more wins: KC and Detroit. They will end up 6-10. Oh well, maybe next year.
The BANG is the sound of the door being slammed shut on a losing season. They will get 2 more wins: KC and Detroit. They will end up 6-10. Oh well, maybe next year.
The BANG is the sound of the door being slammed shut on a losing season. They will get 2 more wins: KC and Detroit. They will end up 6-10. Oh well, maybe next year.
This is New Orleans. We love losers. We elect/extend loser's contracts all of the time. Ray Nagin, Bill Jefferson, Eddie Price, David Vitter, Jim Donelon, Sean Payton. What's 1 more loser to add to the pile. PAY TON - Benson is PAYing a TON for nothing.
This is New Orleans. We love losers. We elect/extend loser's contracts all of the time. Ray Nagin, Bill Jefferson, Eddie Price, David Vitter, Jim Donelon, Sean Payton. What's 1 more loser to add to the pile. PAY TON - Benson is PAYing a TON for nothing.
This is New Orleans. We love losers. We elect/extend loser's contracts all of the time. Ray Nagin, Bill Jefferson, Eddie Price, David Vitter, Jim Donelon, Sean Payton. What's 1 more loser to add to the pile. PAY TON - Benson is PAYing a TON for nothing.
This is New Orleans. We love losers. We elect/extend loser's contracts all of the time. Ray Nagin, Bill Jefferson, Eddie Price, David Vitter, Jim Donelon, Sean Payton. What's 1 more loser to add to the pile. PAY TON - Benson is PAYing a TON for nothing.
early 2nd half..score stillclose..deuce off the field until we get far behind..I thought he was hurt..Wake Up All - It's about Reggie Bush and his agent not wanting Deuce to get 20 carries, 100+ yards and a few TDS per game. PERIOD!
The Patriots have a great defense and not all of their players are big names at all. They are guys that are coached well and put in the packages and positions they need to be to make plays. This is a perfect example of coaching, not personnel, being the big issue. Gibbs must go.
This is how I view the saints this year. I believe Payton is an excellent play caller. I would keep him in his current position. I don't know if he is the one making personel decisions but he shouldnt. We need someone who can effectively evaulate talent.
The offense can be very effective with better play calling. Talent wise, the offense is well put together.
The defense is horrible with the exception of a few players, Ellis, Vilma and Mckenzie. The saints need to trade either Charles Grant or Will Smith or both for a draft pick or a more effective defensive end. They need more help at LB and more help with the secondary. It seems like Mckenzie is getting injured every year. We need a new defensive coordinator to come up with better schemes.
If Jim Haslett is available at the end of the season go after him. He was an excellent defensive coach.
Fire Mickey Loomis and hire a decent GM.
It's an eazy fix for Sean Payton! It's called Duece McAllister, use him! This allows our defense to rest and scheme better on the sidelines. Watch the games carefully, these dudes are tired b/c we either score too quickly or do a pass, pass, pass, punt all the time.
I'm not jumping off your band wagon Sean, I'm riding with you like a true Saints fan until they cut you loose. But you have to let go of that pride and ego and run the damn ball!
Think for a minute! Lack of running is the reason we lost the NFC Championship in '06 season. (it was cold and wet, in those elements we run the ball)! Lack of running is the reason Duece got hurt last year (you're asking him to put his type of frame in a position to catch suspect passes) this is what we got Reggie! Lack of running is the reason for this sh*ty season (too many 3rd & 1's not converted due to passing)! Running sets up the pass. Teams in the league are on to your passing offense. This is the reason for the pick on the first play of the game! TEAMS KNOW WHAT YOUR GOING TO DO!
Sean listen to me! If you want to keep your job and fans, run the ball....PERIOD! You took the first step by taking the blame, now lets play football.....
The thing that is so frustrating about this year is that the Saints seemed to make the right moves in the offseason, addressing needs at the defensive side of the ball in free agency and the draft, bringing in Ed Orgeron as a D-Line coach, and getting Brees a tight end. Seemed like we should have at least a 10 victory season with playoffs. Can't complain about the effort that Loomis made.
The two main things that stand out are lack of committing to the run, and the defense not smashing anyone in the mouth in the mode of the old Dome Patrol. In the NFL you can't win consistently without these things to help control the clock and manage the game. We have the best offense in the league, and its exciting to watch, so give Payton his credit. We are capable of beating any team in the league only because of the offense. If Deuce was not recovered enough to pound the ball for the first half of the year, why not take a chance on Cedric Benson when he was available? He was a top three pick in his draft class, which is the logic that has Joey Harrington on the roster. A big back would have been more valuable on the roster than a third string quarterback.
That leaves Defensive Coordinator, and all you can say based on the past two seasons is that we are capable of losing to any team in the league as well. Hence, we're a .500 team. When was the last highlight reel hit that we put on an opponent? How about stripping the ball? If not for the addition of Vilma and Ellis we would have much more serious issues. As many other postings say, the scheme is wrong for the personnel that we have because we continue making the same mistakes even though we're not giving up as many big plays as last year. This year its just slow death watching the other team move at will on 10-15 play drives. It pressures the offense into throwing more due to playing from behind.
Over 40 pass plays a game: Saints win 20% of the time.
Deuce runs 20-25 times a game, Saints win 80% of the time.
Ball control, balance. That's how you win in the NFL.
Payton is a moron & the laughing stock of the NFL for not running Deuce more. His plan, or lack of one, is the single biggest contributor to the loser Saints--there's no way to dispute it when you look at the stats. The problem is the plan & the plan is Payton.
Payton has to go. This last game is the kind of game where you axe the head coach--every other team not owned by the burbling, doting, bumbling Benson would have canned this turd on Monday. To me, he's not even qualified to be an offensive coordinator. He's a quarterback coach at best, but more likely a trainer or towel boy....
good article.saints sure have gotten soft.playing way to much finesse.he's a good PLAYCALLER but he should know that he needs to get back to basics.i like the aggresive style offense,but c'mon establish a running game.that opens it up.he should know this,thats why he's making that big money.just a little tweaking here and there(and as long has he has brees back there)this is no doubt a potent championship caliber offense.so i'm not really worried bout the offense.its that sorry weak defense,that needs to be fixed better yet rebuilt.besides vilma,fujita,ellis and porter(and hopefully mckenzie)saints really need to evaluate every other position,players,schemes,and especially coaches,change is definetly necessary.lets just hope they think so too.we could run the table and win every game from now on,but yeah right.not from this team.and the nfc is strong this year.but i'll still watch and keep hope alive.ITS TIME TO MAN UP.or it'll be another season of being home for the playoffs.
Let's face the truth. The D just does not have many athletes that can effectively compete in the NFL. Smith and Grant are just plain awful. Neither are worth 65 bucks, yet alone 65 million. Vilma is a beast and Fujita is decent. Shanle is just taking up space on the field. The DB's, except for McKenzie, couldn't cover a bed and cannot tackle my sister. Our safeties are some of the worst in the NFL. They are not in the same zip code with the opposing team's receivers. And none of them can hit anyone in the mouth. The D is soft and they get totally dominated by any PHYSICAL team they compete against. I believe this season is rapidly slipping away again. So why not just turn everyone loose. Man, just go for it. Free everyone up. Blitz more and if we get beat, so be it. At least we are aggressive. Just playing 10-15 yards off the LOS and allowing catch after catch underneath is unacceptable. Of course, I DID state in the beginning of this rant that we DID NOT have many atheletes on the D. So being aggressive may be futile anyway.
I got it. Only pay 'em if they win. Then maybe we'll see a differnet team!!!!!!!!!!
I don't care what John writes I still say PAyton is NOT the man for the job and should be replaced at the end of the season. I know that won't happen but eventually when Benson looks at what his return investment has been on the likes of Shockey,Smith,Grant,David and other under achieving players he'll will realized how much cheaper it will be to fire Payton and Loomis too then to keep on wasting $$$$$ on resigning,signing or trading for players like the above mentioned.
Two other words - North Carolina (as in where he lives)
Two more - NC (as in North Carolina) State - where he has a relationship already
Two Last words - Carolina Panthers (as in where is is most likely to land assuming he returns to coaching)
Sorry boy - Cowher is a Carolina man since he left Pitt.
You would think that thousands of great coaches would be lining up to move to New Orleans with their youngsters and wives. Just look at the wonderful business environment, professional political conditions, outstanding educational system, and beignets! Please, step back into reality for a few seconds and look around. Put the can of beer and the joint down. Sober up. Reality can be a good place. Join us.
Hey formerlyno,
Yes Bill Cowher lives in North Carolina but In September 2008, he purchased a home in the upscale neighborhood of Chasemoor in suburban Cleveland. When the Brown's fire Romeo Crennel "probably at the end of this season" Bill Cowher will take the job there where he played and was an assistant coach. So " Sorry" Carolina Bill may have a home in there but his heart is in Cleveland.....
Here we go again!
Responsibility rests with authority. If you are the person in charge and there is a failure you must make changes or accept the blame. Sean Payton has not made any changes and he does not take responsibility. He says the players have to be more consistent...Well what is the coaches role in motivating and preparing the players? The players do not call the plays. As horrible as the defense may be, the players are put into position by the defensive set calls. If the players don't make the plays then they should be replaced. If we don't have the players to make the plays then who's fault is that (considering the payroll?)!
The coach has lost the team and it seems like we are stuck with this mess for the next two years or so until we start over again. The mistake was rewarding a non productive coach with a new contract. He hasn't proven anything! A .500 career record means you are a fair to middling coach and that does not deserve more money and more time. There should have been performance objectives for this year!
Sean Payton is an ex quarterback who is pass happy as a result of it. We don't know if we have a run game because we don't show one. When we hired Payton, Tuna commented that he was a good coach but that he needed to be reined in occassionally... prophetic words! There doesn't seem to be anyone telling him he's royally screwing up...except the fans.
The defense is a victim of poor defensive calls, poor defensive acquisitions, and it seems at this point that the players no longer even buy into tho schemes.
How come we fans can understand this and Payton can't....Wait I know lets fire the waterboy.
"Reality can be a good place. Join us."
Much happier being fat, dumb and happy.
How about getting rid of Gary Gibbs and moving Orgeron(or anyone else qualified on our current staff) into the d-coordinator position? Having played and then coached college football on both both O & D, I haven't seen one scheme out of Gibbs that involves any kind of consistent approach over the first half of the season. I don't care if we adopt the "bend-but-don't-break" mentality like under Venturi, anything is better than our current gameplans, but our D needs an identity. And speaking of gameplans, he is the absolute worst I've seen at making halftime adjustments, or the lack thereof.
Moments before watching McKenzie go out against Atlanta it seemed like there was a lot of frustration from the whole defense. I think our scheming is never right. How can every corner we place out there look like a tool? Randall Gay has been doing OK but not great and Jason David originally was supposed to be fantastic (obviously not from what we have seen) but it seems like there is always a hole in the defense no matter who is out there. Our safety is never there on the help and our CB are always playing too deep or getting burned deep. Saints are a team and they need to get it together mentally. Is there a way to prevent this without blaming the pass rushers for amount of time they give a QB? Maybe we need to throw a lot more different defenses at teams and confuse them a little better. We are never moving around, shifting, or biting at the line enough. It seems we always show our cards early. Coaches need to show blitz and not or the opposite a little more to keep them guessing. Maybe we are confusing ourselves and not on the same page especially the safety position. I don't know what it is exactly but it needs to be fixed in order to have success. Should we start dropping a linebacker or rushing our weak corners on blitz more often? Find a way to win and make sure the whole team is ready to go with the play. Defense seems unorganized and timid not aggressive. Some of the corners were stars in zone defense and now looking like crap in man to man. Why not use more zone? We have improved greatly in the backer position with the addition of Vilma playing next to Fujita. Vilma does a good job pointing out coverage and putting people in position but we need other leaders out there as well. I want to see players out there confident and ready to hit or intercept on every play while reading the QB like a book. It can be done and it is vital for the team's success. I'd say it is time for change. Maybe a little at a time we can work some new plays on defense into our mix. Everyone already knows what they want to do to us on defense and that is throw to single coverage along the sidelines. On offense we are forced to play quite predictable as well once we are behind we will go for the long connection with Brees. If our defense can keep us from panic mode we definitely have the best offense in the league. Honestly we have improved a bunch at stopping the run and our linebackers do a very decent job but our inability to take shots at the QB on defense makes us weak. There is nothing to lose and all to gain at this point in the season. Lets take a shot on defense and not be so conservative. Conservative play calling has been a weakness all season. We are too predictable.
seventh....so i guess brees, bush, shockey, vilma, mckenzie and all the others feel the same way. new orleans is a great city, if you feel otherwise you should move. because i would give nething to be back. and the coach that views the city as you do, should stay the f away and go coach in wyoming.
Da Aints are underachievers who play with no passion or purpose. I'm actually somewhat pleased with our defense this year; nobody expected anything from that pathetic group.
Our offense is letting us down big time. And like the article says, that starts with the man calling the plays. Just like in New York, Sean Payton needs to be stripped of his playcalling duties. He has proven time and again that he is not up to the task.
Make the change Loomis & Benson. Don't fire him, just get somebody else to call the offensive plays. Payton is not good at it. He has all these weapons and should be putting up 40-50 points a game.
green, you either 1 are just looking for a net-fight or 2 havent been watching any of the games. "somewhat pleased with our defense"?? "offense letting us down big time"??? they havent scored less than 21 at any point this season. if this offense were on any other team they would be in the superbowl mix no doubt about it
Oh yes, but just let some of the plays he calls work and all of you would be singing a different tune. Many times it's not the plays, it's the players. Overpaid, under achievers!
What did you expect, Tom Landry? With the Saints overall record of something like 257 wins vs 357 losses, he's at par with his predecessors. How many superbowels did Archie takes us too?
maybe next year!!!!!....hmmmmmm. deja vu?
seems to be some kind of problem within the Saints organization. too many injuries ... too many overpaid under achieving players, questionable play calling or even asst. coaching of players. multiple misteps.... thought we would have heard Benson by now saying something to stem the tide of Fan unrest!
season is lost if they dont do something real soon.
The birds were too physical with the little girls.
I saw Deuce stepping out of bounds, shy of two yards for the 1st down. He needs to be able to run through one defender. Looks to me that he is not even 90% back. Reggie is like Ricky...can't depend on him. Not a durable back..prone to injury. But it's been this way for decades.
Get use to it all ya'll. Like the man said:
New Orleans loves it's losers almost as much as it's criminals.
That's why we can't have anything nice around here!!!
This is why I play Madden. This is why the Saints are treated as Step children in this league. This is a average team with quality players. The problem with the Saints is attitude. This time has NO BACKBONE. Wimps is the best word. I'm not referring to the individuals themselves. I'm talking about attitude and it starts with Sean Payton. Why does he have a Wimpish attitude?
1. Pass Happy even though everyone knows that IF YOU WANT TO BE SUCCESSFUL, BRING THE RUNNING GAME. Sean Payton knows this because it's in the game plan so he says, but he's scared. Of what? Ask him. He's the one abandoning the run as soon as things go south. You want an example: The Vikings Game, the run was abandoned before the game started because of the Vikings Defense REPORTED run defensse. Straight Wimpish. I feel sorry for Drew Brees. A lack of a running attack will get him hurt because the offensive line can't hold the pass rush against a physical team. Congrads to Caroline and Atlanta for dropping them dralls on the Payton.
2. Gary Giggs, are you serious. I would rather ask Madden to select a random defense then to rely on Gary's Schemes. This defense is a disgrace to the dome patrol. This defense can't crack an egg if the superbowl was on the line. Why? Attitude. No toughness, lazy, out of position, half hearted, no fire, no passion, overpaid (Will Smith and Charles Grant). I start with coaching. This has no defense structure and it points to Gary Gibbs. If Sean Payton wants to make an imediate change, the first thing he needs to do is get with Mickey Loomis and Gary Gibbs, look at tapes of the Steelers, Giants, Ravens. Point out have defensive oriented they are. Point out the schemes that they use. Copy what they do. Light a fire under this defense. If that don't work, then Gary needs to go before the season ends because with him the defense sucks and it sucks now. Mickey and Sean are not aggressive enough for this team to succeed. Why? Because they're willing to wait until the season is over to made a change, instead of aggressively telling these coaches and players that YOUR JOB IS ON THE LINE AND YOU MAY BE GONE BEFORE IF THE RESULTS ARE NOT SEEN ON THE FIELD.
The Kansas City Game should be a DO OR DIE situation for some of these people. But believe me, it will not surprise me to see this same coaching staff next year saying the same BS "It starts with me and the coaches." I heard that all last year, and I be damned if I hear it for the remaining of the year with no change. I rather support the Raiders. Hell, at least they got to the Superbowl!!!!!
Posted by 985TOTHE813 on 11/11/08 at 8:38AM
I so agree. He will change the attitude of this organization.
Sean Payton is not a bad coach, BUT he needs the right people around him to succeed. If the Saints had a good defense, then I feel we would question Sean less about the offensive plays he calls. But still, I feel he's in over his head on this one.
Maybe next year, more than likely not. It really doesn't matter to the Saints since there are enough people out there to buy tickets no matter how bad the team performs. The one bright spot is we haven't heard from that village idiot Benson.
I have a better idea.
Keep Sean Payton, he's a good coach, but needs some mentoring.
Fire Gary Gibbs.
Fire GM Mickey Loomis.
Hire Bill Cowher as the New GM, like Bill Parcels in Miami.
Try and pull one of the defensive coord from a defensive oriented team like the Ravens, Philly, Steelers, or Giants.
I think attitude starts at the top, and Bill Cowher will be the someone that would ensure that the defensive is in place.


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Saint Vincent Summer Theatre is in rehearsals for the newly-published farce by Douglas Hughes and Marcia Kash, Too Many Cooks, which will be presented June 20 to July 6 in the Performing Arts Center of the Robert S. Carey Student Center on the Saint Vincent College campus. The cast features, from left, David Cabot as Alfonse "Noodles" Feghetti; Luke Halferty as Shirley; Bob Turano as Irving Bubbalowe; Michael Fuller as Hamilton X. Effing; and Kevin Daniel O'Leary as Frank Plunkett. A preview performance is scheduled at 8:10 p.m. Thursday, June 20. Regular performances are set for 8:10 p.m. Friday and Saturday, June 21 and 22, and Tuesday to Saturday, June 25-29, July 2, 3, 5 and 6. Two matinees are scheduled at 2:10 p.m. Wednesday, June 26 and Sunday, June 30. Contact the box office, 724-537-8900 or www.svst.org for details.
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