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I'm curious as to why you included the Nikon D3000 as a competitor, since it is much cheaper and really does not have the horsepower and and features of the 550. I guess the D5000 is closer to a match, but even then isn't the D90 really its main Nikon competitor in terms of photo quality and features?
I have seen this reviewed on different sites and they all say that to really use the 18mp you need to get a different lense than the kit one. I was just wondering what lens would you recommend? This is my first dslr. Would the kit lets do for starting off, then get another lense down the road?
This camera looks great but it has been a fail ever since they decided to take away Compact flash cards.
Why can't they implement SD and CF cards together?
Yet the higher-end models continue to use CF cards.. seriously canon is their deal with that!
"Would the kit lens do for starting off, then get another lens down the road?"
Sure. The kit lens isn't bad - all of the sample images were taken with it - it's just that there will be folks who buy this camera predominantly for its extremely high resolution, and they might be disappointed when they see that all that fine detail isn't that crisply rendered when they use the camera with the kit zoom.
The actual relevance of lens sharpness and resolving power depends largely on how big you want to print, how much cropping you do and how important the frame edges / corners are to your photography in terms of sharpness.
What a camera. Best camera in class for sure. It's resolution, high ISO abilities and movie mode is unbeatable in this price range.
Nikon must be sweating and working hard on a D5000 replacement.
I had to chat to a friend who works at a big Camera store here in Melbourne, Australia and he said the D5000 was outselling the older 500D but the new 550D is killing the D5000 in sales.
I had sticky shutter problems that could not be fixed with my EOS500D and I truly loved that camera to bits, in the time it's taken to resolve Canon are now giving me an EOS550D by very kind means of an apology.
I have been a Nikon user for years. Started in 1974 with an F2 (which I still have) and currently shooting with a D300. I purchased a T2i (why cant they called it a 550D like in Europe) after hearing and reading great things about it. Initially it felt like a plastic toy (which it is) and I felt awkward after handling a D300 for over a year. But when I saw the pictures, even with the kit lens, WOW! Within a week I ordered a 15-85mm and now I cannot go back to the D300! Craig's list here I come!
This was an excellent and a very surprising review!
it's certainly good to use the with each new model Canon improves its products rather then just adding more software based features….
From the review this looks like the perfect candidate to replace my 20D.
Then I took a closer look at the samples, especially the two train stations @ ISO 320 and @ ISO 500.
Am I crazy and is this review way too Canon-pleasing commercial or what? These images look like they were produced by compact camera's! Blown out, smeared highlights, lots of noise…
In the ISO 320 image NOTHING is sharp, even at F8!
Is there any change that the reviewer can produce some images with better glass?
At dxomark.com the preliminary results from a pre-production 550D seem to confirm this when I compare it with the 20D.
Probably the handling of the 550D is much nicer, with the better rear-LCD, live view, RGB histogram, better metering, but IQ wise there seems no gain.
Files from the 20D are WAY cleaner. Resolution wise,. the +10 MP in resolution compared with the 20D seems to add hardly anything…... just like my Powershot A80 (4 MP) upgrade to my Powershot A640 (10MP) was hardly an improvement except for the much quicker handling.
Should we simply boycot the newer small pixel - lots of noise - high megapixel nonsense?
At this price it is a great buy!... My first camera was a 450D and now own the more professional cameras. Great pixel size but was wondering how the video comes out. Anyone seen the results of this?
Hi All,
Is this worth a purchase? I am thinking of buying this one. Please suggest. Will better optics like 18-135 or 18-200 help get better images? or should I get a nikon D90 or 300s?
In your price range….
The best buy is a Canon EF 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS.
This lens fit on a full captor sensor…not ypur other choices.
i dont understand why every1 is so excited bout it? Maybe with better lens it produces better pix but what i see here in sample images, i mean i dont think there's anything to celebrate
This is not a review, it's simply a regurgitation of Canon's own marketing information. There are better reviews with more substance out there.
Should we simply boycot the newer small pixel - lots of noise - high megapixel nonsense?
Well Kahe - the 550D has more pixels but they are bigger than those on the 500 as they now use gapless lenses that are also sited closer to the detector. They are 4.7 microns on the 550D v 4.2 microns of the 500D.
I mainly use a 17 - 55mm f2.8 lens on my 550D. Trying to spend a year using almost nothing else as a project to see how much I can extract out of this lens. Great for low light of course and when I print to A2 - HEAPS of clean detail. Great lens - great camera. Tom
With all the bells and whistles of this high priced entry level camera, I had to return it because it froze when shooting the bay and the ocean, a beach and the bay, any into the sun when it was bright. No matter what setting I used (other than Program-Auto) it just wouldnt fire. I used various aperture settings, various shutter shettings, various ISO settings, no go. I used two different lenses. Whether it was this body or the whole line I dont know, but am I frustrated and dont know what to get now.
I ordered it 2 weeks ago straight from Japan and it came with a dirty sensor (smudges from lubricant used on internal parts, even page 13 of the manual says it's possible!) AND an array of 9 stuck pixels which looks as a white square at 100% magnification.
And this is a BRAND NEW camera!
It was supposed to be my first DSLR, but turned out to be a big disappointment. I'm sending it back for a refund… not sure if I'll buying Canon again.
Anyways, it's a good idea to check your Canon gear with scrutiny BEFORE you buy!
The pictures are blurred and lack detail at full crop, they look like pictures from a cheap compact camera! There are some good photos though, if the lighting is very good. A camera in this price range should take good photos even in low light!
Btw, thanks for the review, Zoli.
I got this one and I'm perfectly satisfied with it, actually I Love it. Detailing is perfect. Image sensor is very powerful and 18 MP is just awsome when cropping. The only point is the lens, so I got the 55-250 lens and its just Amazing. Whoever puts it on a list of models, go for it.
I bought my EOS 550D about three weeks ago and since then never been a day without using it… the camera is simply superb. Everything about its features excel in every level. Believe me, you'll want to use this camera 24hours a day, 7 days a week and not ever get tired of it…
I just filmed my last short film with the canon 550d. The picture Style was Super Flat, and I tweaked the curves on the pc.
Just watch it and enjoy:
I think its pretty good for a dslr!
I'm sure the 550D makes a great camcorder.
But I want a camera. Does anyone make such a thing anymore?
got it yestersday with the 18-135mm lens. i outgrew my 1000d and decided to give it to my sister. iam so satisfied with the results and everything in it. no regrets of buying the 550d first than the 1000d. i learned all my photography lessons in my 100d, its my sisters turn to learn more. 550d is a starter camera, if you got money to burn. but 1000d will do for beginners.
great review for beginners! good job :)
im thinking of buying this camera and have been doing a little online research on how good the quality of the images can be. I came across this photographer who has used the 550D for alot of the shots - can you expert guys take a look at this link and let me know your thoughts on the kind of lens and flash thats been used? obviously alot of photoshopping too!
For LAINA
I have take a look at the photos and it's a very good composition for the majority of thems but too much artificial effects who are not funny for my eyes.
Camera dslr and dedicated flash can do many things with some ajustments and some filter. For me it,s not interesting to push the photo out of the realty. You can adjust your camera for a few artistics effects but normally the restitution of the colors should not be in an extreme opposition of the reality for the majority of normal observers.
Finally I got the 550D three months ago. I bring it everyday n everywhere I go. I was try a lot of combination setting just for exploring my imagination n yes I got but a few. I start to thinking that my D90 more understand me than this, but I'll try to love both of them… I need little bit more time for practising…
Hallo everyone ,
i just bought the Canon EOS 550d , and i wanted to ask this :in the LIVE VIEW mode at night shots , i cannot use the AUTO FOCUS function,but when i turn it to Viewfinder i can take the shot !
Then i check that if i put AI SERVO in the live view mode i can take the shot.
I am trying to understand if there is a problem with my cam.
this a nice cam, i used it b4 but just a trial with my friend the picture is nice but don noe y it still had some noise when the lighting is low.
I've just bought a 550d. As the 18-135 canon objective was very bad, now 'im buying a tamron 17-50 2.8 to see if I can get enough good pictures. Anyone have this tamron lens?
Buy the 28-135mm Canon lens
It's a very good choice for the price and you can fixe it on a pro body if you change in the futur.
The 18-135 mm Canon is a deception lens for the price when you compare with the old 28-135mm Canon lens
This comment from the review:
"One Shot AF is equivalent to AF-S, while AI Servo is the same thing as AF-C on other manufacturers' models. AI Focus is similar to what some other camera makers call AF-A in that it automatically switches from One Shot AF to AI Servo if a still subject starts moving."
Doesn't explain anything at all…
Hi, how's the video mode of this camera? Any time limitations? Any overheating problem? Is it easy to use? In what file format does it save in? Thanks! :)
After breaking away from SLR's to a the conveniance of a compact (Canon A640-10 megs)which produces excellent grab shots, my fingers are twitching to get a DSLR. What puts me off the EOS 550D is it's rediculously high m/pxl count (18) who needs it at this level (one up from entry level. 12 mgs will produce A3 prints and who needs bigger than that? It just takes up a lot of file space. For my money the Sony A580 is a superior camera at about £100 cheaper and the A560 which is due out in march will be £100 cheaper still, but still offering all the mind-blowing features of the A580 (see the review in this blog) but with a perfectly adequate 14.2 mgs as apposed to the A580. On the other hand I'm waiting for the Nikon 5000 replacement…....
I had sticky shutter problems that could not be fixed with my EOS500D and I truly loved that camera to bits, in the time it's taken to resolve Canon are now giving me an EOS550D by very kind means of an apology.
This was an excellent and a very surprising review!
it's certainly good to use the with each new model Canon improves its products rather then just adding more software based features….
The 550d is a great camera and used with good quality lenses, the results are very attractive whether for photography or video shooting. We always bring the 550d when shooting property videos using a ultra-wide Sigma. The only negative point is the overheating issue especially in warmer climates.
I am confused regarding which one to buy ?
Canon 550D or Nikon D5100
Well, I'm wondering which of these two lenses is better for the 550D?
(I want this camera generally for macro, so can you please help me?)
Canon EF-S 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Standard Zoom Lens
Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4.0-5.6 IS Telephoto Zoom Lens
well VELI H,
the canon 55 250mm is way more better, cheaper and sharper than the canon 18 200mm, and 55 250mm lens has very good macro capability as well,though you loose some distance in 55 250mm lens for the wide angle photos but on other hand you gain much more distance to catch far scenes. the problem with canon 18 200mm is that when it is fully zoomed creates noticeable distortion in photos, thats why i recommend u canon eos 55 250mm lens.
now canon 55 250mm lens comes in IS2 version which has more good look and feel..
i hope this answered your question..
The 550 D looks good on reviews (almost everywhere), but it's very different in reality.
The ergonomics and ease of use are really ok, but we all expect a camera to do what it's made for: produce good images, and this where the 550D is the real rebel to quality.
First about the legend that the kit lens is a good enough one: this isn't true, this lens is poor or very average at best (except may be for close-ups where it performs ok).
I have used this camera for more than 1 year and since the beginning I regret to have bought it.
At first I thought there was a fault to it, then I thought I didn't know how to handle it, but after comparing opinions on different websites and having tried every tricks and tweaks I finally ended up concluding that it is just an average DSLR whatever category you dem yourself to be in.
1st: the color balance of the default settings is utterly wrong when it comes out of the package.
Colors are dull, misrepresented, blacks are so wrong that most of the photos need a lot of post processing just to be presentable. White balance is wrong, colors lacks of deepness and punch.
2nd: One of the big problem with this camera is the level of noise at every ISO range. I couldn't get a pure blue sky without such a level of noise that it needed to be over processed to just appear "normal".
3rd: It seems the the censor can't handle a pure blue sky without rendering it as a irrelevant deep dark blue/violet one.
4th: fringing, fringing and fringing again, I had the luck to experience every kind of fringing in all the colors available from red to blue, violet ot green in any kind of light and weather, It seems that this model is not the only one with this problem in the Canon EOS range (up to the FF models).
5th: sharpness or rather the lack of it, as you can see on the samples on this website, at 18 MP, crispness seems not to exist anymore, it looks like the camera applies automatically some sort of softening (NR or else) even when you disable the setting for N in the menu.
Not talking about the strange ways the 550D autofocus (or rather auto un-focus), leaving you with the part of the photo you didn't want to focus on and the other way around while you did everything to focus properly.
Funny particularity as well is the fact that this camera produce 2 different pictures when you shoot the same scene from the viewfinder and the liveview (while the same settings, aperture, speed, iso,where applied). It does what it wants basically. And as it is the case for all DSLR, don't expect the picture you see on the LCD screen to be the same perfect one once you see it on a computer screen.
Compare to some advanced compact camera, the 550D couldn't even compete, even less with cameras like the NEX-5 or 7 from Sony, other models form Panasonic in the same league and certainly not against real DSLR of this category.
Of course as anyone I manged to take also good pictures and acceptable ones with this camera, but I am utterly disappointed and never again will I buy a camera based on reviews that might be biased or simply the copy of other reviews elsewhere.
It's a pity for Canon, because I will not be tempted to buy another of their product again while they might have very good ones (like the 7D).
So, my next move will be to sell it to some "enthusiast" review monger freak who will certainly jump on the occasion to get this fantastic camera at such a cheap price, not realizing that if it comes so cheap, it is because it's probably a cheap product.
This machine is amazing.Some of my photo samples you can view on >> http://nepalgunjeyes.blogspot.com
I preferred Nikon D3100 and it's cheaper compared to Canon 550D. Hehehe..
hey!i am plannin to but a dslr most canon550D budget is abt 40k…wat do u recommened ?
Hi Guys, I am planning to buy my first DSLR. my budget is around 35K and 550D its in my range. So Should i goi with it rather that Nikon 3100 ?
Wat you guys will recomend for me in my range ?
Amol Suryawanshi
I am confused regarding which one to buy ?
Canon 550D or Nikon D5100
please give me a correct idea…......
i use for party photography…
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The man apparently hung the document on a wall in his home until a friend suggested he have a historian look at it.
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Best compact Glock .45?
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> Best compact Glock .45?
June 29, 2004, 06:02 PM
Is the model 40 the smallest?
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June 29, 2004, 08:51 PM
Do you mean smallest compact .45?
I like the fit of the Glock 30 in my hand.
"Best" is subjective.
Just make sure you can keep hold of it when firing.
June 29, 2004, 08:55 PM
There is no model 40.
Current model (or Glock patent) numbers go up to 37.
The G36 is the smallest .45ACP Glock at present.
IMNSHO, it's the best one for CCW.
The G30 is the best one for actual shooting, since it has less felt recoil than the G36 (a minor issue), and is perhaps even more accurate than the G21.
I have all three models, and carry the G36 regularly.
Although there's another .45 Glock, it's the G37, a fullsize gun which shoots the proprietary 45GAP, a cartridge which seems to fill no useful gap (pun intended).
June 29, 2004, 09:28 PM
I thought there was no model past the high 30s but Oshman's (yes, not the experts on guns) has it listed as "Model 40". Kinda odd but anyway I loved the gripm the feel, the size, everything. I think I might be getting the glock bug. :uhoh:
EDIT: It was the model 30 but I just called the store which said yes its marked as model 40 :rolleyes: . Anyway I liked it thought the G36 looks nice. Problem is only 6 rounds :barf:
June 30, 2004, 02:23 PM
G30 hands down.
11 rounds of .45 in a very compact and reliable-as-a-brick package.
If you're considering the 36 with its pitiful capacity, you might as well carry a revolver. (Not that there's anything wrong with revolvers)
July 1, 2004, 06:19 AM
The "Model 40" thing at Oshman's does not surprise me. Our local store has been known to even have some quite "creative" labeling of Smith and Wesson revolvers. Anyone wanna try to explain the S&W numbering system to a dude making $8 an hour? :rolleyes:
I bought the G36 primaily because I wanted a .45 that I could ride hard and put up wet - and I liked the grip better than other Glocks. Of 4 mags for it, I put the +1 extension on 3. Not necessarily for the extra round, but for "feel".
W Turner
July 1, 2004, 12:14 PM
I would be all over a Glock 36 if they made a 5-rd. flush fit mag for it. It would be great for ankle/pocket carry.
Mac Attack
July 1, 2004, 01:40 PM
G30 is a great little carry weapon. I carry mine often, as a matter of fact I am wearing it right now. :D
July 3, 2004, 04:18 AM
Starting to rethink my choice. Seems some 30s have KB!'ed even using factory non-lead ammo. Any other compact non-Glock choices besides AMT and cmpact 1911s?
July 3, 2004, 04:40 AM
There's not that many really compact non-1911 .45s especially if you have a problem with modest capacity magazines. i'm not going to touch that kB flamebait comment. No offense but this and other posts of yours lead me to think you might be better off lurking, learning and maturing for a while.
here's some respectable choices IMHO
Beretta 8045 MiniCougar (6 round mag, George Hill loves his http://www.madogre.com/Interviews/Beretta_Mini_Cougar.htm)
SIG-Sauer P-245 (6 round mag)
SIG Mauser M2 .45 (fairly affordable, same rare rotating system as the Beretta Cougar)
Bersa .45 (7 round mag, affordable)
some less respectable choices
Taurus PT145 (many early reports of frames breaking, i'd research this one carefully if it really interests you)
Cobra Patriot (gas delayed blowback HK P7 type system, ugly, polymer, lightweight, inexpensive)
July 3, 2004, 05:13 AM
Heh, not flaming Glocks. They're good guns but I'm weighing the choices. Sounds like the Para Warthog and Ultra-compact springfield are nice. Are there 12 round mags for the springfield? This link hints there might be http://www.impactsites2000.com/site3/spring3.htm
July 3, 2004, 05:34 AM
yeah there's a lot of good compact 1911s but your post said you weren't interested.
July 3, 2004, 05:36 AM
As soon as my G30 or G36 KB's using factory jacketed ammo, I'll let you know!!
The G36 is best for concealed carry IMHO!!!
July 3, 2004, 12:17 PM
My every day CCW handgun is a Kel-tec P3AT (380ACP).
It's very small and light. IF I go into what I call a high threat evoirment I will take my Smith 4013.
I like most gun owers do like some new for my high threat gun and was debating as to what?
My critera is
Caliber 9 Para, 40 SW or 45 ACP (any of these three is sufficient)
Light weight
Small size
Double action only
The Kel-Tec P-11 is the lightist but for a couple extra oz. of wt. I can get a 40 or a 45.
The Glock 36 is very appealing but I already have a 45 ACP and don't like to duplicate calibers.
So I think I'll wait for for a Glock 36 to be chambered in GAP 45 that would be different. Concerning the post the "45 GAP cartridge which seems to fill no useful gap" Probalbly true but why not.
Also concerning 36 having pitiful round capacity. My take on this if you need more than 6 rounds of any handgun caliber you had better brought a AR or shotgun to the firefight.
Have a good day and remember to pray for our troops.
July 3, 2004, 12:20 PM
I vote for the G30 as I don't own a G36. The G30 11 rounds in a small package the problem with the G36 is it is a single stack so it only holds 7 rounds (best guess) but for me the grip is to short I can only get 2 1/2 fingers on it.
July 3, 2004, 01:28 PM
I tried a Glock 30 with a Hogue grip on it and liked it ALOT. A sweet little shooter. The grip really helped with recoil management and eliminated the "Glock pinch" I usually experience with Glocks.
July 3, 2004, 04:29 PM
yeah there's a lot of good compact 1911s but your post said you weren't interested.
Yeah but I'm starting to see the ultra-compacts are nearly whole new breed. Main reason against 1911s however seems to be the cost. From the local stores I've looked at a good 1911 in the ultra-compacts are 700+. I like the Taurus PT145 feel (basically a G30 clone) and the price but I think otomik's advice is solid.
As far as the G36 ammo cap I think with only 6 rounds I'd perfer to go with a 357 mag stubby before it. While you right (hell how many 230 gr .45 rounds an a man take) more ammo is mo better if for no other reason then legal defense after the fact. A mag of 10 with only 6 missing shows more self-control then a full empty mag of 6 IMHO.
BTW I have a Keltec 380 already guys but thanks for the mention. Its great for deep conceal but looking for another 45 to replace my monster Ruger P97 as my normal carry. It works like a champ but mucho bulky.
July 3, 2004, 05:44 PM
The Glock 30 is a good gun, but it conceals about as well as a brick. I found it very uncomfortable to carry because it is so thick.
July 3, 2004, 06:09 PM
but I think otomik's advice is solid. Posted by otomik
No offense but this and other posts of yours lead me to think you might be better off lurking, learning and maturing for a while.
July 3, 2004, 06:12 PM
I own and shoot a Glock 36. Recoil is not nearly as bad as I thought it might be. I like shooting it. I thought it would be a "shoot very little gun" but I can't wait to get back to the range with mine.
I held a Glock 30, it is just too thick for me to grasp correctly. And I don't know where I could conceal a brick like that. KB's are a very rare happening. I don't worry too much about it.
July 3, 2004, 06:59 PM
JohnKSa what use was your post? Nothing. Thanks bye
On G30s is feeding pretty reliable?
July 3, 2004, 07:03 PM
You said otomik's advice was solid. I was agreeing with you.
I do have a question--which Oshman's had a Glock 40 listed or told you they had a Glock marked model 40 in stock?
Also, you never answered my questions on the "38 super round for defense" thread.
July 3, 2004, 07:28 PM
John I'm flattered you follow me from thread to thread. I'm sure your also happy I live near you but I don't swing that way. :uhoh: Cruise for a friend somewhere else.
Stephen A. Camp
July 3, 2004, 08:44 PM
Let's get back on topic and off of insults.
Thanks in advance.
July 3, 2004, 09:54 PM
I don't swing that wayThis reminds me of a quote from Guns & Ammo. John Hay Rabb was quoting from Handgun Control's website regarding the argument on Ballistic Fingerprinting. The quote was "If all else fails, accuse your opponent of being a militant homophobic, and refuse to continue a discussion based on scientific facts." I suppose this is a variation on the same idea.
Soo...back to the Glock 40. Which Oshmans was that?
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My daughter loves them. Are they the ones from Trader Joe's?
Grokka has a point. Heating sunflower oil to cook them isn't wise. Although, it may be the high oleic sunflower oil (low polyunsaturates), so it might be safer.
Because my daughter already is gluten-free and doesn't eat a lot of other things, I just let her have them...maybe 2 or 3 times a week.
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I am in the same boat. Both kids are GFCFSFEGNF (gluten, casein, soy, egg, nut FREE) so when it comes to them having a snack at school they sometimes want lays potato chips. I was just wondering if plantain would be any healthier .. both are cooked in sunflower oil ... neither is organic.
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For all those who anticipated high drama and hand-to-hand political combat over the state budget, recent events must have been rather disappointing.
First, the Democratic leadership of the Legislature assured everyone agreement would be reached with the Christie Administration ahead of the July 1 deadline for the budget to be in place, averting a government shutdown.
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The Chhotaa Ghallooghaaraa ("lesser massacre") was the massacre of approximately 7,000 Sikhs in 1746 by the (Muslim) Mughal Empire. Here are some selections from Wikipedia (citations in the original):
Persecution of the Sikhs (1739-46)
Zakaria Khan, the Governor of Lahore, offered lucrative rewards for the discovery and killing of Sikhs. A blanket was offered to anyone who managed to cut off the distinctive mane of a Sikh or Khalsa. A substantial monetary reward was offered for information on the whereabouts of a Sikh, and a larger sum for the delivery of a Sikh scalp. The plunder of Sikh homes was made lawful and anyone giving shelter to or withholding information about the movements of the Sikhs was liable to themselves being executed. Zakaria Khan's police scoured the countryside and brought back hundreds of Sikhs in chains. They were publicly executed at the horse market of Lahore, since renamed "Shahidganj" (place of the martyred).
This period pitted the might of the intolerant Islamic state against the plucky and fiercely independent Sikhs. Aligned with the Mughal, then Afghan, rulers were the members of the Hindu ruling caste who maintained their privileges by cooperating with the government. The Sikhs, for their part, often enjoyed a good deal of support from the rural Hindu population.
The Martydom of Mani Singh Shaheed
Bhai Mani Singh was a respected Sikh scholar and teacher who lived in the city of Amritsar, founded by Guru Ram Das and holy to the Sikhs. For many years, Sikhs had customarily gathered at Amritsar in the spring and fall for the holidays of Vaisakhi and Diwali. Under the persecution of the Mughals, these festivals had been disrupted.
Bhai Mani Singh sought and obtained Zakaria Khan's permission to hold the Diwali celebration in Amritsar on payment of a tax of 5,000 rupees. When Mani Singh found out that the governor had dispatched a large number of soldiers to annihilate the Sikhs gathered at Amritsar, he sent word out to the Sikhs in their forest and desert hideouts, forbidding them from coming.
In consequence, no money was collected and Bhai Mani Singh was prosecuted for not paying the stipulated sum. After a summary trial, he was given the choice of embracing Islam or facing death. Bhai Mani Singh chose the latter and as his punishment was cut to pieces, limb from limb.
The Golden Temple and Massa Rangar
To prevent the Sikhs accessing the holy shrine of Amritsar, built in the time of Guru Arjun, and known as the Harimandir or "Golden Temple", a Mughal military officer named Massa Ranghar was stationed there. Ranghar not only occupied the holy place, but committed sacrilege by carousing with dancing girls in the holy temple situated in the midst of the sacred pool.
This offense continued until news of it reached an isolated band of Sikhs in Rajasthan. Of them, Mehtab Singh and Sukkha Singh set off to cross the distance to Amritsar. Finding the city strongly guarded, the two disguised themselves as revenue officials. In this guise, they entered the Harimandir, cut off Ranghar's head and escaped before the Mughal soldiers could realize what had happened. This took place in 1740.
Sukkha Singh was wounded in the defensive action involving the first Sikh massacre and later died in battle with the invading Afghan army of Ahmed Shah Durrani in 1752.
The Massacre of 1746
It was in this atmosphere of persecution that the Chhotaa Ghallooghaaraa took place in 1746. Early in that year, Jaspat Rai, a Hindu military commander was killed in an encounter with a roving band of Sikhs. Jaspat's brother, Lakhpat Rai, who was a revenue minister at Lahore, vowed his revenge.
With the help of the new governor, Yahiya Khan, Lakhpat Rai mobilized the Lahore troops, summoned reinforcements, alerted the dependent rulers of the kingdoms in the Himalayan foothills, and roused the mostly Muslim population for a genocide of the "infidel" Sikhs. The Sikh inhabitants of Lahore were first rounded up, then executed on 10 March 1746.
Lakhpat Rai next set out for the swampy forest of Kaahnoovaan, near the town of Gurdaspur, about 130 kilometers (80 miles) to the north-east of Lahore, where Sikhs were reported to have concentrated. Lakhpat had with him a with a large force of mostly cavalry, supported by cannon, with which he surrounded the forest and began a systematic search for their prey.
The Sikhs held out for some time and struck back whenever they could. Heavily outnumbered and under-equipped, they decided to escape to the foothills of the Himalayas to the north. The Sikhs crossed the River Ravi and came in sight of the foothills, a 65 kilometer (40 mile) trek with the enemy in pursuit, only to find the armies of the hill rajas arrayed to oppose them.
Caught between these two armies and running out of food, the Sikhs suffered heavy casualties. At last, they managed to break through the encirclement and to recross the River Ravi in a desperate attempt to reach the safety of the Lakhi Jungle, near Bathinda, some 240 kilometers (150 miles) to the south. In the river crossing, many of the weakened Sikhs were swept away by the current. With Lakhpat Rai's forces still in hot pursuit, they crossed two more rivers, the Beas River and Sutlej, before finally arriving at the sanctuary of the Lakhi Jungle.
An estimated 7,000 Sikhs were killed and 3,000 captured during this operation. The captives were marched back to Lahore, paraded in the streets and publicly beheaded. Given the small numbers of the Sikhs in those days of persecution, the losses will have been a very substantial proportion of their population, perhaps a quarter to a third of the total. Hindus who sheltered Sikhs were also murdered by the Muslim population.
Lakhpat Rai went on to order Sikh places of worship destroyed and their scriptures burnt. He went so far as to decree that anyone uttering the word "Guru" be put to death. Even saying the Punjabi language word for sugar, "gur" which sounded like "Guru" could be cause for the death penalty.
Of course, if this is the "lesser massacre", you know this was not the end of the story. The Wadda Ghalughara ("great massacre") was the massacre of approximately 30,000 Sikhs by the forces of Ahmad Shah Durrani, the founder of the modern nation of Afghanistan. Ahmad Shah attacked his fellow Muslims' Mughal Empire (as did Nader Shah of Persia), and of course also massacred Hindus and Sikhs he encountered while plundering the Mughal capitol city of Delhi. Again from Wikipedia:
Persecution of the Sikhs (1746-62)
In the eighteen years following the first great carnage, the Punjab roiled with five invasions and several years of rebellions and civil war. Under these unsettled circumstances, it was difficult for any authority to carry on a campaign of oppression against the Sikhs. Instead, they were often sought out and valued as useful allies in the various struggles for power.
In times of relative calm, however, the Governor at Lahore and his Afghan allies resumed their genocidal campaigns against the Sikhs. These were characterized by the desecration of Sikh places of worship and the organized capture, torture and execution of tens of thousands of Sikh men, women and children.
The Governorship of Mir Mannu
Mir Mannu (shortened from Mu'in ul-Mulk) became Governor of Lahore and the surrounding provinces in 1748 through his exploits in battle against the Afghan army. His first act as governor was to storm the Sikh fort at Amritsar, where 500 Sikhs had taken shelter. Mir Mannu then stationed detachments of troops in all parts of Punjab with any Sikh inhabitants with orders to capture them and shave their heads and beards. His oppression was such that large numbers of Sikhs moved to relatively inaccessible mountains and forests. The governor ordered the hill rajas to apprehend Sikhs and send them in irons to Lahore. Hundreds were thus taken to Lahore and executed in the horse market before crowds of onlookers.
In his new role as Governor for the Afghans, Mir Mannu was able to resume his persecution of the Sikhs. Moreover, he had arranged for new artillery to be forged and a unit of 900 men assigned especially to the hunting down of the "infidels". In the words of an eye witness: "Muin appointed most of the gunmen to the task of chastising the Sikhs. They ran after these wretches up to 67 kilometers (42 miles) a day and slew them wherever they stood up to oppose them. Everybody who brought Sikh heads received a reward of ten rupees per head. Anybody who brought a Sikh head received a reward of ten rupees per head."
According to that same account: "The Sikhs who were captured alive were sent to hell by being beaten with wooden mallets. At times, Adina Beg Khan sent 40-50 Sikh captives from the Doab. They were as a rule killed with the strokes of wooden hammers."
Mir Mannu did not refrain for visiting torture and death upon the Sikh womenfolk and children. According to a Sikh account, the women were seized from their homes and "put to grind grain in the prison. Many were given merciless lashing... Each of the detainees was given 450 kilos (half a ton) of grain to grind in a day. Exhausted from thirst and hunger, they plied their stone-mills. They plied their stone-mills and sang their Guru's hymns. The Hindu or the Muslim, or in fact anyone who saw them and listened to their songs was utterly astonished. As their children, hungry and thirsty, wailed and writhed on the ground for a morsel, the helpless prisoners in the clutches of the tyrants could do little except solace them with their affection. Wearied from crying, the hungry children would at last go to sleep."
History recalls instances of Sikh children being hacked to pieces in front of their mothers. The bits of flesh would be thrown around the mothers' necks like garlands. Still the brave women chanted and toiled on.
In 1757, Ahmad Shah Durrani invaded India for loot and plunder a fourth time. This time, he was so harassed by Sikh fighters who several times slew his guards and pillaged his baggage train that he determined to take his revenge on them. Since Durrani could not lay his hands on the elusive bands of Sikhs, he determined to vent his fury on their holy city of Amritsar. The Harimandir was blown up and the surrounding pool filled with the entrails of slaughtered cows.
The Holocaust of 1762
When Ahmad Shah Durrani returned for a sixth campaign of looting and conquest (his fifth being in 1759-61), Sikh fighters were investing the town of Jandiala, 18 kilometers (11 miles) east of Amritsar. The place was the home of Aqil Das, the head of the Nirinjania sect, a friend of the Afghans, and an inveterate foe of the Sikhs.
In the twilight of dawn, Durrani and his allies surprised the Sikhs, who numbered about 50,000, most of them noncombatants. Under these circumstances, the Sikhs could not engage in their favored hit-and-run tactics. Neither was a pitched battle advisable. It was decided that the Sikh fighters would form a cordon around the slow-moving baggage train consisting of women, children and old men. They would then make their way to the desert in the south-west by the town of Barnala, where they expected their ally Alha Singh of Patiala to come to their rescue.
An eye witness account describes the Sikhs. "Fighting while moving and moving while fighting, they kept the baggage train marching, covering it as a hen covers its chicks under its wings." More than once, the troops of the invader broke the cordon and mercilessly butchered the women, children and elderly inside, but each time the Sikh warriors regrouped and managed to push back the attackers.
From that point on, the two forces went their separate ways. The Afghan forces, who had inflicted terrible human losses on the Sikh nation, and had in turn suffered many killed and wounded, were exhausted, having not had any rest in two days. While the living remainder of the Sikhs proceeded into the semi-desert toward Barnala, Ahmad Shah Durrani's army returned to the capital of Lahore with fifty cartloads of Sikh heads and hundreds of Sikhs in chains. From the capital, Durrani returned to Amritsar and blew up the Harimandir which since 1757 the Sikhs had rebuilt. As an act of intended sacrilege, the pool around it was filled with cow carcasses.
It was estimated that 25,000 to 30,000 Sikhs were killed on that horrific day of 5 February 1762. As it is doubtful their entire population would have numbered 100,000, it means one third to a half of all Sikhs perished. The Sikhs were not the only people who were targeted; the Mughals also captured Hindus, especially intellects and those who sheltered the Sikhs.
Once again, it is important to point out that the jihad did not begin in September 2001, and it is not aimed soley, or even mostly, at Christians in North America and Europe. The jihad has nothing to do with the existence of the state of modern Israel, or the existence of the United States of America. Jihad is the 1,350 year war of conquest by Muslims against non-Muslims (and fellow Muslims), to impose sharia law on all persons in all places. Victories in those battles of conquest are marked by the desecration of the houses of worship of non-Muslims, and the murder, enslavement, and humiliation of conquered non-Muslims.
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Brave, brave people.
By now, I have learned to recognise a Sikh. I have had a Sikh taxi driver in Australia more than once. And always I have offered a polite welcome, and quietly mentioned that I know a little about the terrible history of Islam in India and that I admire the courage with which the Sikhs of previous generations resisted the Jihad. They don't say much, but I think they are pleased to encounter an Australian who understands.
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There was a recent documentary about the Sikh fighters who flew in the Battle of Britain. The last surviving Sikh who served in that battle died just recently.
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I wrote this column Saturday afternoon, basically as a warning to the Indians about trading prospects. I had it on the page, it was ready to go, and then... the Indians traded two of their top prospects, and two other prospects, for Ubaldo Jimenez. By the time the deal went down, it was too late to re-write it. Still, the lesson remains. For the Tribe's sake, I hope they don't have to learn it again.
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When the Indians were contending in the late 1990s, it was one of the most exciting nights of the summer. The trading deadline. It was a magical night, and it was the equivalent of desperate shoppers filling their carts with toys on Christmas Eve.
When I was in high school, my friend and I would stay up all night and wait for the results (the deadline was at midnight then). Would the Tribe get Randy Johnson? David Wells? Denny Neagle? The Indians contended every year between 1994 and 2001. In just about every one of those years, they made a trade to grab a player they thought would solidify them for the postseason run. Perhaps due to my lack of patience, I didn't care what Cleveland gave up. Richie Sexson for Bob Wickman? Sure, they need another closer. Reliever Steve Kline for Jeff Juden? Well, OK, Juden was kind of sort of good once.
What I didn't understand then was that trading prospects for veterans was a dangerous game, one that could come back to haunt your team. It didn't matter then because I wanted my team to win now. The fact that Sexson and Kline would go on to have solid major league careers with other teams showed the gamble of dealing at the deadline. In the search of instant gratification, you mortgage the future.
This became all the more apparent a few years later. With a farm system devoid of prospects and with an aging roster, the Indians blew things up in 2002, and again several times after that. I bring this up because the Indians, to the shock of just about everyone, entered play Saturday just 2 ½ games out of first place. For the first time since 2007, the Tribe is in the position of being buyers — that is, surrendering prospects for a veteran who could help the team win the division. The Indians, riddled with injuries and a lineup about as imposing as an action film starring Zac Efron, already have made a move, getting outfielder Kosuke Fukudome from the Cubs.
But rumors persist that the Indians aren't done. There are a few impact players left, most notably Colorado starter Ubaldo Jiminez, who won 19 games last season. But to get Jimenez (who has been an underwhelming 6-9 with a 4.20 earned run average), Cleveland likely would have to part with at least one of its top four prospects — second baseman Jason Kipnis, third baseman Lonnie Chisenhall, or pitchers Alex White and Drew Pomeranz.
That price is too steep.
As much fun as it has been to watch the Indians contend, the reality is they entered play Saturday just one game better than .500, and are playing in a weak division. Perhaps more disconcerting, the team has played poorly since a red-hot start. After beginning the year 30-15, the Indians have gone 22-36.
That seems like more than an aberration.
The point is, Cleveland is more than one talented player away from making a serious run at a championship. The mid-to-late 1990s were fun, but they also serve as a warning. Cleveland gave up future stars like Jeremy Burnitz, Sean Casey and Brian Giles for veterans, and then when the veterans got old or left in free agency, the team was left with neither a future or rings.
Not all of those trades were deadline deals, but all of them represent an "act now, worry later" philosophy.
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Sounds like you're going great guns!
Day Two
Did the Number Three today - Legs and Glutes
Food was good. Sun was nonexistent - rained all day. Walking didn't happen. YAYOG happened. Here is the rundown - good mornings, squats, box jumps, calf raises.
Sleep last night was awful - just couldn't settle down. I plan on reading a book tonight - that usually does me in because I am already prone in bed. Therein is usually my challenge - just getting into the damn bed and getting flat.
Arms a little sore from yesterday, got a good burn from the calf raises today. Today First, Second, and Fourth did all the exercises with me... my own little cheer squad.
I think I am going to start pinning up some beefcake somewhere where I can regularly see it (perhaps my master bath, so the girls don't see it much) for inspiration. Nothing Hollywood-y, perhaps Mark Lauren from the YAYOG book and Erwan LeCorre. I'll take it down when I am tighter and fitter.
I wore my current "skinny jeans" AND had my belt on Hole Number Three all day today... still flabby handles some, but five months ago I couldn't even pull my skinnies all the way over may arse. Progress.
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Congratulations on your good start and on your progress during the last five months! You have come a long way already, and I'm convinced you can reach all your goals. How nice that your girls do the exercises with you!
Today is our national holiday (commemoration of the reunification of Germany), and I am enjoying a nice free and sunny day in the middle of the week. Not that it changes the fact that I have to do some work, as I am a freelancer (I always joke that a sunday is just a day when Aldi's is closed). By the way, is it the same in the US, all shops being closed on Sundays?
But I live in the center of a big city (well, in Germany 1 million inhabitants is big) which usually is very noisy. On a weekday you get woken up by the garbage collection, various recycling collections, traffic, ambulance sirens, city cleaning and loud voices from six o'clock in the mornings onwards. Today there are very few noises, just the seagulls from the nearby river are croaking.
I just put some henna on my hair, as I don't need to go out this morning. I got my hands on some good stuff that really comes from India. Indian women just have like 4000 years of experience with henna ... Maybe going to the gym in the afternoon.
Have a nice day all!
Edited to add: the "sunny" day is history already ...
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Doing well Crabccakes. I like aching from exercise as I always think it must be doing me good.
I hate it on the odd occasion that I don't sleep properly. Normally when I don't exercise and haven't eaten well. Haven't slept well last couple of nights, think it was eating out and stressful days. Our Norwegian visitors were lovely, however it is a strain talking all day with different accents.
Forced myself to go to a class tonight as conscious haven't been eating great.
Out again tomorrow with friends.
Aiming to get back on the straight and narrow from Friday.
By the way Bess vast majority of shops including Aldi are open in the UK.
Shorter opening hours 11 - 5pm as opposed to 9am 8pm. Big supermarkets open 24 hrs per day during the week.
Last edited by annedawso; 10-03-2012 at 02:07 PM.
Day Three
Walking - did it twice: once at the park with Third and Fourth, and once at the Y around the track while Second and Fourth were in gymnastics classes. The park gave me some sun for the day.
Food is still clean 100%, but it is making me grumpy as hell. I have plans to latch onto the teat of a goat and not let go once these 30 days are up, I want cheese that much. Miss my chocolate, too.
We just got home not an hour ago - sent the kids to bed for some sleep and am finishing little things up. Drove home on a rotten headache, still have it, therefore I couldn't care less about the YAYOG for tonight, I'll make it up tomorrow morning after Third goes to school.
Bess - ah, Tag der Deutschen Einheit. Aldi is open here on Sunday as well. In fact, the only thing not open on Sundays are banks, government offices, private doctor offices, most schools, and Chick-fil-A (as the founder is a devout practicing Christian and won't allow his stores to be open on Sundays). By 18.00 Uhr most of the stores are wrapping it up, though.
Day Four
Made up the YAYOGing from Day 3, and did the ones from today as well. Breakdown: Day 3 Core - standing knee raises, crunch it ups, s&m push ups, yes no maybes. Day 4 Pull exercises - let me ins, curls, claws. Second did the YAYOGing with me again, and wants to continue all month long. The other three bailed on me in favor of a cd-rom horse game.
Food is still good. Got some topless sun this afternoon. Walking got forgotten but the chores didn't - the house looks good right now and I have a newly cleaned wool area rug to boot (scrubbed it myself). I also went to a meeting with the director of volunteers at our county arts center - I am going to be a volunteer there. Really, really excited - arts centers make my heart beat faster, and I can't really believe that my kids are at the point where I could actually do something like this semi-regularly.
Cheese cravings are better today, but still there. After the goat, maybe I'll go milk a sheep.
Sleep was sketchy last night, but better than that rotten night a couple of nights ago.
I seem to be puffy - weird, because I normally am not. Third says that she gets that way when she goes back to gymnastics after a break in practice but that it passes.
Now I am going to bail on everybody here in favor of a book to fall asleep to...
I have no idea how you manage to fit so much into your days. And you live in the woods? Colour me envious...
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Day Five
Nothing much happened today - I got a crapton of paperwork done that I have been ignoring for eons. I must have eaten something leftover that would have been a better choice for the compost bucket because I got nauseous and still am, though not seriously.
So, no sun, no sprinting, no walking, but the food is still Whole30 compliant. Tomorrow being Saturday, I will make it up then when I clean out the fire pit for some guests due to hang around our fire and then head to the tractor pulls with us. BTW, the good ole' boys and their tractors are back in my DinkyTown for the weekend. Lots of engine roaring tonight .
I have plans for next week's YAYOGing - two sections of body each day for four days, then the play one day, then the sprinting one day, and still Sunday off. I am doing the exercises, just not so many reps/sets that I can't move the next day, because you know, I need to be able to move around and drive Third around. I did enough that I could feel some burn and soreness next day, but nothing stupid, so I think I can kick it up a small notch. Same careful rep/set strategy, just two YAYOG areas of concentration daily instead of this week's intro of one.
Second was hurting today after the YAYOGing of yesterday (she lacks arm strength - it holds her back in gymnastics - this might just do the trick...), and she was wondering how I couldn't be as sore as she felt. And - I won an arm wrestling match with my First (she challenged me) - both arms .
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Doing well Crabbcakes, hope you feel better soon? I haven't been too bad this weekend, though circuits killed me on Saturday. That's my punishment for not eating healthy and not exercising enough.
From tomorrow I am going to have over 3 weeks of not going out.
Intend to eat clean and exercise 6 days per week. Reckon it is 26 days to my next planned night out. So will use time to try and lose a few pounds and get my fitness back to hat it was a couple of weeks ago.
Been to the Lake District for the weekend so plenty of football with the youngest. I even bought a frisbee and we had great fun.
Though did eat lovely BBQ ribs at restaurant.
Bess, hope you are well and not too busy with work.
Crabbcakes you're doing great on your exercises! I haven't gotten sore for a long time; I think that means it's time to step it up a bit. Truth is I've never been that into exercising or sports, I'm doing it because I know it's good for me. Which means it's hard for me to stay motivated, I end up thinking of a thousand other things I need to do and before I know the day is gone and I haven't done my exercises. I do walk my dogs daily, that's something I enjoy.


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