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A ninth home win of the season came as we called it, the Whites still showing plenty of desire despite the long campaign, yet again putting the jinx on Wigan.
In light of recent form the boys did a satisfyingly professional job at the weekend. Martinez side showed their resilience and strong organisation, but could have few complaints at losing. In particular, our defence was sound, with Mark barely having a save of note to make. Wigan's wing play which has served them well over their recent upturn, was entirely nullified, while Fulham went up a gear the second half, and looked far more threatening coming forward. Diarra was immense. As I suggested recently, imagine what he'll be like after a full pre-season with the squad. The Pog marked his return with a neat goal, and was within a whisker of another hat-trick. And even though Frei was only on the field for 10 minutes, again, see how he makes things happen.
My only caveat as the minutes ticked down and my nails took a bashing, how galling it would have been to end with just one goal to show from so much enterprising approach play. When we are playing to the max like this - although Duff perhaps might have given us a bit more - we are almost impossible to stop. I am getting the feeling from the stands this Fulham side are just a fraction away from becoming a team to really fear. Phew! Please post in and tell me I'm getting carried away...
I foresaw us winning by two or three, and had Mason been up to it with the early penalty shout, and had the woodwork - yet again - not twice denied us, Fulham would be breathing right down Liverpool's neck with a similar GD. A top ten finish is surely on the cards now, and who's to say we won't find more points from our last three away games. Yes, call me crazy. We all know Fulham's record at Everton, Liverpool and Spurs. But, come on boys, these teams are there for the taking! My, but we have some old scores to settle at those grounds.
Which result would give you the most satisfaction? Sticking it to old goggle eyes and eradicating memories of both our limp FA Cup exit, and the outrageous good fortune Everton had in stealing victory from us at the death last autumn? (The one side in the EPL where we've never gained so much as a point). Adding to Liverpool's misery and hastening 'King' Kenny's path to the scrapheap? Or silencing Spurs mouthy mob with a masterclass at the Lane. Heavens, but did the Spuds look average at QPR, they can't get out of the mire surely, can they?
Which brings me on to my next topic. Not that it really matters, because England's international stock is low, and unlikely to improve anytime soon. But come on, 'Arry for England? Can't pick a side to embarrass the Ha ha's? With every passing week surely the FA can see Redknapp is not the man for the job. If we want England to regain some international honour and respect there's only one man up to the task. Step forward the acceptable face of football, Roy Hodgson. Folk thought he was good enough for our Olympic team, so give him the top job say I, and not just for nicking three points off the Reds.
But the press boys have made their minds up. Just like refs at Old Trafford who are pre-ordained never to award a penalty to the away side. So the press pack, a bunch of lazy freeloading hyenas in the main, have handed down their Player of the Season award to Robin van Persie. No surprises there - the man's a superhuman goal machine. But Paul Scholes edges Clint down into 4th place on the back of a handful of run outs in the Red shirt? How lamentable is that? It's the Man U factor at work once again, as personified by the useless jerks on Match of the Day. When was the last time you heard any serious assessment of Fulham? The awards are for a season of excellence and consistency. Not a cameo run of starts in a star-studded team at the top of the league. It diminishes any relevance to the awards, a theme I know echoed by all the Cottage Talk guests this week on Russ's radio show. Fulham fans recognise a return of 22 goals - and counting - from midfield for a mid-table team in transition. Shame the hacks are too craven and star-struck for intelligent assessment of Dempsey's value. Keep flying below the radar Clint and extend that contract.
Onto news of another bright star in the camp. Danny has posted requesting news on forgotten kid Danny Hoesen, over in Holland on loan at Fortuna Sittard. I've done some research, and it makes good reading. He's one of the nominations for player of the season. In the last third of the season Dutch coaches voted him the most outstanding player. Venlo asked to sign him, he's on the radar of Twente, Groningen and den Haag, Fortuna fans definitely hope he'll stay for another season. Nice one. Hoesen made it onto the bench this time last year at the end of Hughes time. Will be very interesting to see his development when he comes back.
If Pogrebnyak signs, which I'm certain he will - why else would you move into Mourinho's old flat in London - a good move for Trotta next year will be to test himself in similar fashion with a strong European league. Before I go, I hope our travelling Texan cousins enjoyed Saturday. I made a call to the club press office and Clint was happy to meet them in the player's lounge post match. Not sure if that happened, if so, really hope you guys can post in your experience.
Also, did anyone have money on either Emmerson Boyce or Philippe Senderos to be on the scoresheet? First goal in two years for Boyce, Phillipe's winner was his first since 2008!
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Wow, Phil. What optimism. You're threatening to alienate the pessimistic sect of your readership. Of which I'm included.
All joking aside, another good win. It's really fun to watch Dempsey and Pogrebnyak play off each other. And I'm downright in love with Kerim Frei's play right now.
Blog Central: We are all enjoying the symbiotic potential of Deuce and the Pog playing off each other. How tragic if one arrives as the other leaves this summer. There's that dose of pessimism for you again!
Saturday is my birthday and all I want is 3 points from Goodison Park. COYW!
Lets see, Paul Scholes in the league: 3 goals, no assists and 18 shots in the 14games he has played. Now, Clint Dempsey: 16 goals, 6 assists, and 134 shots in the 34 games he has played. Hum...oh well, I guess Clint lost the coin toss.
I like the optimism, Phil -- and I agree this is the most important summer for Fulham in awhile, in terms of achieving a new level. If Jol can somehow retain Clint, Moussa, Diarra and Pog, we'll be a top 10 side for the next few years...maybe better if Frei and the other young players continue to improve.
Good win...it's weird with this team because I see flashes of greatness and then flashes that make me want to slam my head on the table!
For some reason I really want a win against Everton with Spurs a close second. For Liverpool and Spurs I come into those matches with little expectation but for Everton I always assume a win is within grasp and we always fall flat. It's our turn to take it to them!
Finally I do I have to say, I hope the Senderos goal doesn't mask the fact that he was just no good that whole match. He cannot read the game for the life of him and oh my god is his passing out of the back abysmal! Let the H&H combo live on and go with either Baird or Kelly on the right. Is Briggs able to play on the right?
Also, what's the status on Dalla Valle...Phil you seemed to sing his praises a lot last season but barely a whisper since then
Blog Central: I don't want to be seen to be Senderos bashing, you can see his desire to do well, but as I tweeted the comms Saturday were highlighting his deficiences in positional play and distribution. When you hear Aaron talking of the 'telepathic' understanding he has with Brede and the hours Woy spent on coaching the back four, you have to question Jol's early season decision to break that up. It cost us points no question. Hard to monitor the progress of the kids, I don't get to see the games at Motspur. Did speak with Kit after a recent game, not sure if Dalla Valle has progressed after his loans, will try to get more info.
For some reason we've come out of the gates very slowly the past two years. I recall watching our game at Wolves and home against Villa, Blackburn, and Everton early in the season and my God we looked completely lost. But by season's end in each of the past 2 seasons there is no one playing as well as Fulham. I'd bet on us winning the rest of the way, and please by God pound Spurs into the ground. We've had enough pain and disappointment handed to us by those clowns. That wild deflection goal by Bale last year. The FA Cup defeat two years ago. The offside goal that was waved off and then given seconds later. Let's see a repeat of that 4-0 victory at the Cottage in last year's FA Cup victory. What could possibly be sweeter than heading into the summer off a pounding of Spurs at their place? Come on Fulham!
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Thanks for the good info and honest opinion as always Phil.
I'm curious about your Diarra comment. I thought I remember the match commentary being quite critical of Diarra. They even made it sounds as if DM was getting on him for holding the ball too long. I've always figured Diarra was going to be a bit player if he stayed next season. Do you see him as being a full time player next season? I was thinking more of a half of Diarra and a half of DM.
Let's take advantage of some down teams and get some big points to finish the season. COYWs!!!!
Blog Central: Diarra was most observers MoM. Yes, DM wanted the ball moved quicker and told Diarra in no uncertain terms. He delivered. He also has 5 years on Murph. I think both will feature next season. All at sea v Swansea, Diarra after a long lay off is now integrating beautifully into the set up. He has real quality.
Would defeating Spurs really feel better than beating King Kenny's sad lot? Spurs are surely in bad form, but everything about L'pool makes me grit my teeth. That sorry little s**t Suarez has ability, but he's a full-out cheat determined to make every tackle appear to cause near-fatal injury. And who can forget his World Cup "performance"? I guess when players wear the same uniform they feel compelled to stand up for each other, but LS is just a nasty piece of work...would love to see him carded for one of his dives, just once...maybe next week?
Always enjoy Phil's posts here, starting to share the positive views expressed today. But so much depends on retaining Deuce, Dembele, Pog, Diarra -- and Murphy, for my dime. COYW!
Happy to report the traveling Texan cousins had a famous visit to the Cottage. We arrived early, stayed late, yelled a bunch, and enjoyed seeing both Fulham goals unfold nearly in our laps. Kudo's to the fans...they made a pile of Texans feel very welcome. And thanks to you too Phil, for your generous offer and efforts. As it turned out, Clint made some time for us later that evening, and we all had a great Texas-sized visit with him. Cheers to all the Fulham fans on a successful season. COYW!
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|June 26, 2009, 10:51 PM
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Was the movie called "Predator"?
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|June 26, 2009, 11:39 PM
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Actually, I was remembering when my kids were little and played in the mud after a rainstorm. Had to hose them off in the back yard. We had adobe soil and it took some doing to get it all off.
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|June 27, 2009, 01:20 AM
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Done deal!
Story tomorrow…..too tired tonight.
How it happened:
I planned to be on stand by 8:15 p.m. (gets dark about 9:00 p.m.) and was resolved to stay until midnight if necessary.
It was terribly hot here yesterday and I was expecting the boar to go to water about dark….then begin to work his way toward the bait site.
I knew he was bedding not far from the pond….so I needed to be as quiet as possible going in. To that end…I decided to leave my truck about ½ mile from the stand and have my Father in Law drive me up close to the stand in his "mule".
The idea was that the boar would hear the "mule" leaving and not be alarmed…as he might be if he heard a truck stop a distance away but not leave. Sure enough…..it worked, but it worked a little too well.
I walked slowly and quietly to my stand. I had already placed my rifle and binoculars in the stand earlier in the day so I would be able to climb into it making the least amount of noise. I looked at my watch when I got there, 8:07 p.m., perfect, (or so I thought).
I carefully climbed into the ladder stand….pleased that I had made no noise. I sat down and repositioned the rifle. But, as I did so….I barely "ticked" the end of the barrel against the rail on the stand. Immediately I heard a "sniffing" sound come from the bait site about 60 yds. away! OMG, the boar was already there.
Two more "sniffs" and then I heard a crashing sound (sticks breaking) as the boar ran into woods just out of sight. He stayed there less than 50 yds. away pacing back and forth "growling". This is typical behavior for a boar when they are agitated about something, but don't want to leave.
I strained my eyes looking into the woods…hoping to get a glimpse of him, looking for any shot opportunity. I knew he wouldn't stay long and I was concerned he would circle behind me and get my scent. So far…he had only heard something "unnatural" and was simply being cautious.
I a minute all was quiet, he had slipped away. Somewhat dejected… I decided to wait it out….but knew that if the boar was really "spooked" he would NOT come back …or would do so in "stealth mode" most likely circling the area first.
As luck would have it…almost an hour later (very dark now), I heard the unmistakable sound of corn crunching. With spirits renewed….I got my flashlight out, positioned the rifle to shoot and waited. It was agonizing…but after 10 minutes I could just barely make out a head coming into view through the scope.
As soon as the boar gave me enough head and neck to see….I turned on my flashlight (red lens) to get a better sight picture, I quickly found his neck in the scope and tapped the trigger.
"Luck" was with me last night, I didn't expect this particular to come back, but he did.
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|June 27, 2009, 02:41 AM
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That is one serious hog, man!
|June 27, 2009, 02:52 AM
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very nice...you're one persistant hog exterminator
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|June 27, 2009, 06:45 AM
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Yee haw, you got him, good one!!!
|June 27, 2009, 09:05 AM
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Excellent hunt!
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|June 27, 2009, 12:23 PM
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Wonderful thread, Flintknapper!
You've given a lot of members a realy good insight concerning East Texas hog hunting. Clearly, you are a dedicated hunter and steward of the land. Your faithful reporting of your activities over the last seven weeks speaks well for your writing ability AND your tenacity.
I hope you'll find time to continue updating us on your efforts, even if not so frequently as you've been doing. This is one of the more interesting, ongoing Hunting Forum threads. To make it easier for members to locate this work, I'll "float" it at the top of the forum, at least temporarily, and add a sub-title to hint at the subject matter. There's nothing wrong with the way you've handled it so far - - this is just an effort to share your work a bit more widely.
Good work!
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|June 27, 2009, 01:07 PM
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About your tools - -
Flintknapper, back around post 43, you wrote,
"I parked my truck away from the bait site, got my camera and my .45 and slowly walked up to the set."
Clearly, whatever you used was "sufficient unto the day." Share some additional details, please? What kind of .45 - - revolver or auto pistol? What kind of load did you use? How many shots were needed? Any idea of the weight of that boar?
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|June 27, 2009, 01:11 PM
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Also about tools...
I've been wondering about the game cam that you have been using. What brand and model are you using? It shows the time and the temp. Is there an external connection for a thermometer or is it an internal thing ?
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|June 27, 2009, 01:34 PM
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Jmurman wrote:
Hes being recycled.
Kind of hard to find someone on a Friday night . who wants to come pick up a Boar, field dress it, skin it, bone out the meat . and get it on ice (before it spoils in this heat).
But, we do try to utilize the meat resource whenever possible.
|June 27, 2009, 01:36 PM
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You know, it just didn't look that big without a point of reference.
Wow. Just, wow.
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|June 27, 2009, 01:38 PM
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SciFiJim wrote:
My game-cam is a "Moultrie I-40" infrared, still picture and video capability.
The thermometer is internal and fairly accurate. Battery life is incredible.
|June 27, 2009, 01:52 PM
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Caveat: The .45acp is NOT a cartridge I recommend for hog hunting. It is however... a sufficient round to "dispatch" hogs under controlled conditions where Central Nervous System hits are obtainable.
|June 27, 2009, 01:57 PM
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Heh - it's photobucket's bandwidth, so no worries.
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|June 27, 2009, 02:00 PM
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Flint does a fairly good job journaling the hog trapping. In west texas, there is some trapping, but most of us use dogs, cause there's very few trees (mesquites and joshua). However, I told Flint on one occasion that when the wife and I move to Houston, we're going to come help him as much as possible to dispatch these thieves because they are such a nuiscance, but in addition.... we love the meat! I've got another freezer on order to accomodate the future endeavors (an upright this time). My eventual goal when we get moved is to have a 20 x 15 walkin freezer (commercial) to hang up to make them wait until I can cut them up myself. Flint... hopefully this sounder is done, and the "Spot" will keep you and the daughter busy for a while ahaha.. j/k
|June 27, 2009, 02:01 PM
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Lookit the size of that mother! Er, father I guess.
If I missed it I apologize, but do you mind sharing what rifle and cartridge you used? I have a Savage (Weather Warrior) chambered in .308 which I was thinking of trying on hogs. Any insight is appreciated.
Again, outstanding posts.
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|June 27, 2009, 04:18 PM
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.308 would be plenty for a hog.
I used a 7mm-08 on this one (.308 necked down).
Shot placement....is the secret on hogs.
If circumstance permits, I always "neck shoot".
Basically, anywhere from just in front of the shoulder to just behind the jaw (mid way up) will result in a hog that is "DRT".
A "High Shoulder" shot would be my next pick. Ideally, you are looking for a shot that will break the spine at (or forward of) the shoulder.
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|June 27, 2009, 08:27 PM
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I've used plenty of different guns and ammo on hogs. You can't beat good shot placement but most anything will work.
I prefer slugs or single aught buck in a 12ga. but I have used .45 long colt in pistols and lever actions plenty.
Killed a 350 lbs sow with a .22 one night
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|June 27, 2009, 08:39 PM
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|June 28, 2009, 12:33 AM
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very good job!!
thanks alot fo the info on hog hunting
ill hopefully get some boar hunting done this coming season, im moving to the western part of the state for college and they have boar in a few of the neighboring counties so ill try and get what i cant hunt at home done while at school.
here ive got deer, birds, and bear not much in the way of yotes or pigs so im gonna try and get them done in the western part of the state
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|June 29, 2009, 08:39 AM
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Looks like someone else wants to play.
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|June 29, 2009, 08:57 AM
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Its a never ending flood !! I'm not a biologist but am guessing that population pressure keeps them moving around in search of food. Wonder if your neighbors are as diligent as you in keeping their areas hog-free?
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|June 29, 2009, 01:53 PM
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whos ready for a few more pages?
whats are the tactics for this one? bait and live trap?
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|June 29, 2009, 04:54 PM
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how come the red light didn't startle him?
how many hours a week do you spend attempting to preserve this land? (just wondering; seems very time consuming)
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Funny how people will believe what they read on RCG more than what the manufacturer says or people who have used it for years report..
Most metal finger motors die because of motor stoppage with power applied burning the fingers than from wearing them out. And a little lube helps them last even longer.
wd 40 is the best thing since sliced bread. in fact, i put wd 40 on my sliced bread everymorning for breakfast; it makes it taste better. then i spray it on the bread left in the bag, you know, to keep it from going stale after its past its "expiration date".
i spray that stuff all over my 1998 honda accord engine. not only does that 300,000+ mile engine look whistle clean, it increases its horsepower and increases my mpg to the point that i forgot the last time i had to stop for gas.
in highschool the track jock/bully challenged me to a race in front of my peeps and girlfriend. even though i was not a runner, i stood up to him and the challenge. i sprayed wd 40 between my legs to lower friction and thus ran faster than him and his chronies and took the track record of that highschool. i was the class hero.
in some towns in third world countries, wd 40 is a form of currency. if chuck norris cant solve a problem by way of a roundhouse kick, he adds wd 40 to it. making a batch of coca cola, wd 40 and power puff girls involves the same amount of secret ingredient "x". i spray it over my house to keep the insects away and make it tornado proof, as well as to keep the property value up. a few drops of wd 40 on your wife at night keeps the relationship from rusting over and, in essence, divorce.
i have yet to put it on a brushed motor though. reason being is because all my heli engines are brushless.
You literally made me choke on my breakfast, that was so darn funny. You probably don't have any WD40 left for your motors anyway
I use WD40 all the time...and while it has lubricating properties I dont consider it a lubricant really. It cleans great, repels water and rust and gets off all sorts of stuff...but it dries out lots of material and will do the opposite of lubricate.
It will do an okay job of lubricating metal on metal but just okay imo.
I just stay away from it for that purpose and use products that do a much better job for it.
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I've used WD40 on my drill press as a cutting oil to drill large holes in steel to keep the drill cool and help it cut better. WD40 has many uses but not the best for lubricating.
YMMV, Don
Does anybody know if a new Collar is pre-threaded, or is the Collar Screw suppose to be self tapping?
I have a new spare Main Shaft with Collar and Screw, and am having difficulty installing them because the Collar Screw doesn't thread into the Collar. At first, assuming the Collar came pre-threaded, and without verifying, I tried very carefully to gently thread the Collar Screw into the Collar. I was unsuccesful, so then guessed that the new Collar didn't come with existing threads, and instead am suppose to use force to self-tap the Collar Screw into the Collar. After many attempts, using more force on each additional attempt, I was eventually able to forcefully self thread the Collar Screw most of the way into the Collar; however, I haven't been able to finish the last few remaining threads. I'm imagining with all the unsuccessful Screw turning I've done, what ever threads I did start are probably stripped by now!
Any better ideas on what I should have done, and what I should do now?
How to finish threading the Collar Screw into the Collar? And in the event that Collar's threads are stripped, any suggestions on how to "re-new" the plastic threads?
The reason I wanted to replace the original Collar was because it is cracked at the "boss" (Collar's extended part that "houses" the Collar's threads), allowing the boss' diameter to widen and the threads to split open and preventing the tightening of Collar Screw.
If the replacement Collar thread is stripped, and if it can be repaired, then maybe the same repair can be used on the original Collar with the cracked boss with split open thread?
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I was not angry. I have no reason to be angry and I appologize if it sounded that I am angry. All I had was good intentions to share my experience with the brushed motors.
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I just replaced the main shaft on mine. My old collar was stripped out. It took a bit of effort to get the screw started into the new collar, more than seemed nessesary. It worked fine for me, but I can see why yoou are having trouble.
After many repeated attempts, I finally was able to use enough force and turn the Collar Screw all the way through the wall of the Collar. The Collar Screw backed out and re-inserted itself along the threads in both directions, so I thought the threads might be OK; however, when I assembled the Collar on to the Main Shaft and tried tightening the Collar Screw, as soon as the Collar Screw reached the Main Shaft, I wasn't able to get it to apply any significant back pressure "torque" to the threads, and instead the Collar Screw just easily spun non-stop.
I suppose I need to order a few more Main Shafts, so I can have a supply of Collars.
Hopefully now that I'm aware about the possibility of a thread stripping problem that can occur while using the Screw to tap new threads into a new the Collar, I'll pay more attention, and somehow be more careful the next times. Maybe it might be easier, faster, better, and cheaper to locate, purchase, and use a proper sized tap?
I'm not done with those old damaged Collars though. I'm thinking of doing some DIY plastic thread rebuilding experiments with them:
I just tried using CA on the cracked Collar. I didn't apply the CA on the inside of the threads in attempt to rebuild them, but instead applied the CA on the outside trying to keep the crack from opening as the screw is tightened. I'll allow the CA to cure 24 hours before verifying if it can hold up to Screw torque.
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Why don't you just get a metal collar & be done with the problem. Since I got 1 from RakonHeli I haven't had any problems & they're cheap. Heres a link
The quality is great & shipping is fast. Hope this helps.
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I overhead someone recently saying that they're tired of hearing about climate change—they don't know who to trust on the subject and wish they could just know the facts. One of the most riveting presentations I saw at a recent meeting of the Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies was by Dr. Virginia Burkett, chief scientist for Global Change at the U.S. Geological Survey. She is also a member of the IPCC, the United Nationas group of scientists that won the Nobel Prize last Friday for their painstaking research and analysis of climate change over almost two decades, along with Al Gore, who won for his efforts to raise awareness of the subject.
In her presentation, Dr. Burkett showed a chart of the impact of increases of greenhouse gases on the earth's temperatures. She pointed out data that suggested even if people around the planet could significantly reduce the amount of greenhouse gases we're adding each day, we'll still have to deal with some real global warming beyond the normal limits of the past several hundred thousand year cycles. In searching for some Web references of Dr. Burkett, I came on a report she gave to the U.S. House of Representatives on impact of climate on coastal flooding (she formerly worked in Louisiana). The research is complex and detailed, but the real question is what we will do with the information we learn from all these reports.
One of the Missouri Department of Conservation's key roles is to help people conserve plants, animals and their habitats. Nature is always changing, and people have always depended on their ability to adapt to those changes. Our challenge will be to help Missourians see what's ahead here using the best of science that experts offer. Will we have wetter or drier weather? Will our current mix of forest life look more like something from the deep south? Armadillos have been moving north for several years. Do that and other wildlife trends mean anything? Should we consider planting a different mix of trees and shrubs if we want them to thrive? What will happen to fish that depend on cooler waters?
My favorite place where I live is along a creek where an ancient coral reef from about 360 million years ago now rests. I stand on top of that coral, now gray fossil swirls in rock, and marvel that warm shallow seas once covered that spot. I like the reminder that the life I see around me will change, with or without me.
But unlike that coral, we have choices to make, actions to take. Good science can help us get there, but it's what we do with that knowledge that matters.


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With eight points from six games, sat ninth in the table, Norwich will have gone into their game at Old Trafford with a sense assuredness. After all, boring mid-table mediocrity would go down as one of the club's greatest successes in decades. Still, away to a Manchester United team who were having one of their best ever Premier League starts, taking anything from the match was a ludicrous thought for the Canaries.
As most expected, when the final whistle blew, United's points tally increased to 19 and Norwich's didn't change. The score sheet will show a comfortable home win for the defending champions against the newcomers, fighting for their lives.
History will not show the look of fury on Alex Ferguson's face as he moved from his comfortable, elevated, Formula One race driver's seat to the touchline, whilst watching Norwich devour his defence. Fans who didn't see the match will not be aware of the excruciating frustration painted on Paul Lambert's face as he hopped from one foot to the other each time a seemingly simple Norwich attempt on goal was squandered.
Norwich aren't the first team to create chances against Manchester United this season. In fact, West Brom gave Fergie's men a good game on the opening day of the season. The real challenge, when you're facing England's best is, being able to turn their defence around; are your attacking players creative enough to find the holes in United's defence and exploit them enough times to compete in the game? Can you create clear-cut goal scoring opportunities?
Significantly more so than it was for Shane Long and the rest of West Brom's attacking line on game day one, the answer for Norwich at Old Trafford was a resounding "yes".
Bennett's pace, Morrison's aggression, Pilkington's pressure, Jackson's eye for goal. Four, five, six attacks that all ended in the United penalty box and none of which could punish a very beatable United defence.
As always, we look to the positives; Lambert will be thrilled that his team have gone to another giant opponent and competed admirably, just as they did away at Chelsea. But this season's problem for Norwich was not likely to be their ability to compete, to fight or to show determination. The real problem, as Paul Merson commented after the game on Sky Sports last week, is the immediate need for more goals.
The search for an obvious solution to the goal drought will continue this week as Norwich return to Carrow Road to face Swansea. Steve Morrison has been receiving credit from all kinds of sources and was rewarded for his efforts leading the city frontline with a starting place for Wales against Bulgaria. Morrison will feel harshly treated if he should lose his starting position in the City team on Saturday, but with Grant Holt still sitting on the bench, Lambert could yet change things up once more.
We're in need of a natural goal scorer, someone to convert the clear-cut chances that we're creating. In Grant Holt, we have just that in a player who must be itching to get back into the team.
While Morrison has a phenomenal work ethic, Holt also led the team with hard work and desire. Morrison does offer a half a yard of pace that Holt cannot put forward. Both players have a similar number of games under their belt this season and just the one goal to show for it. The big decision will probably come down to two things; Morrison has been in the slightly better form of late and he has also had the international game with Wales to keep him sharp during the international break. Holt on the other hand has played just 26 minutes out of the last three games, in over a month since Sept. 11. When you consider that against the 334 minutes played by Morrison for club and country, Morrison would appear to be the obvious choice.
Regardless of any statistic, we can rest assured that Lambert will pick the players that he thinks can do the job for that particular match, regardless of form or public opinion. We should be thankful that we have a manager with the intuition to make those game day judgment calls.
Holt or Morrison, the end result has to be three points. Swansea have had a similarly strong start to the season and are building an equally strong reputation as a good football team who can hang with the best in this league. While it is still early days, this is an absolutely must-win game for the Canaries. With so many excellent teams in this league, we have to be able to take three points from teams like Swansea, especially when we're at home and I am confident that we will do just that.
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We're the first to admit, we've taken a few shots at Dre over the years on these pages, but there's no denying his impact on hip hop, and that he's probably the producer with one of the longest and most solid careers. We're not pretending this album's any kind of landmark as far as mic skills are concerned, but it's a classic nonetheless. For better or worse, this LP was the template for too many pale imitators, but taken on its own, stands up to the test of time, whiny keyboards and all. 16 tracks in all, counting the interludes, including "F**k wit Dre Day", "Let Me Ride", "Nuthin' But A G Thang", "Lil Ghetto Boy", "A Nigga Witta Gun", "B!tches Ain't Sh!t", "The Chronic", "Deeez Nuts", "Stranded On Death Row" and more. (Enhanced CD.) © 1996-2016, Dusty Groove, Inc.
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LIKE many people who have taken the tourist trail in Bali, I spent a number of evenings mingling among the throngs in the narrow back streets of Kuta. The Sari Club was a regular stopping-off point for young people touring the bars, myself included.
My own visit to Indonesia in April this year coincided with Nyepi, the Balinese New Year celebrations, and as I arrived, the streets were awash with huge, colourful papier-mch effigies of Hindu gods. The spectacle had attracted tourists from around the world - Scandinavia, the UK, Italy, North America, Japan and Australia.
A year earlier, as I travelled to the remote diving resort of Sipidan, on the outer fringes of the archipelago, I had experienced the darker side of life in Indonesia after I was forced to re-route my trip when trouble flared in Kalimantan following terrorist insurgencies.
I held no such reservations about visiting Bali, and was completely stunned by Saturday's atrocity.
The Sari Club, known to locals simply as SC, has been an institution in Kuta since it opened two decades ago and was clearly pinpointed as a western target; no Balinese are allowed in.
The club serves as the centrepiece for partying in Poppies Gang 2, a narrow lane just off Jalan Legian, the main shopping street.
The club is flanked by other bars, shops and restaurants open late into the night. The narrow streets around it are busy; there are also several popular youth hostels nearby.
Poppies Gang 2 is also the site of Poppies restaurant, regarded as one of the best on the island. At the beach end of the lane, hawkers set up night stalls selling fake Rolexes and surf gear.
In the high season, the lane is packed from dusk till dawn and Australians love the area's informality. Many return year after year, even bringing their own beerholders, to take advantage of the cheap, giant Bintang beers on sale for less than $3 during happy hour.
The Sari Club and the restaurants and watering-holes lining the claustrophobic lanes around it were packed to the rafters with student backpackers from Melbourne, Sydney and Perth.
Kuta is widely known as a surfing hot-spot and, for the tens of thousands of Australians who regard the town in the way many young Britons treat southern Spain and the Balearics, the resort is a haven for hedonism.
Although it is fashionable to disparage Kuta for its rampant development, low-brow night-life and crass commercialism, the cosmopolitan mixture of beach-party hedonism and entrepreneurial energy is intoxicating.
The town isn't pretty, but it's not dull either and it has the best beach on Bali, with the only surf which breaks over sand instead of coral.
In Kuta these days, even the tourists themselves have become an attraction, with visitors coming from Java to ogle the topless bathers, and from other resorts to scorn the tackiness of it all.
But despite all the excesses, away from the traffic-clogged streets, at its heart Kuta is still a Balinese village: a place of quiet compounds and narrow alleys, where devotional offerings to the gods are placed in front of houses and workplaces.
In the wake of the bombing the famous sea temples that dot the island will be over-run with worshippers. The Balinese will know more than most that the scale of the bombing will change things forever and their lifeblood, the tourist industry, may drain away before their eyes.


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Cid SilverWing, born 8th February 1991, is a furry writer from Norway. Cid describes himself as a "Lightsworn Crusader of Justice".
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The Boston Historical Society
9410 Boston State Road
Boston, New York 14025
(716) 941-5015
The Age of Boston
Physically the town of Boston is very old. Scientists tell us that the shale rock, which underlies this area, was formed under the sea in the Devonian age, about 280,000,000 years ago. Later, the land was raised up so that before the glacial period, our hills were higher by possibly 1,800 feet than they are at present. When the great ice sheet came down from the north and overran Western New York, its great weight depressed the land and it has never come back to its preglacial elevation. Then too, the glacier planed off the top of the hills to a considerable extent.
Eighteen Mile Creek existed before the ice age but its valley was narrower than at present, and it flowed into a river which went southwest through was is now Lake Erie, and into the Mississippi River.
The Glaciers Came
During the glacial period, which began about 750,000 to 100,000 years ago, the ice sheet moved up eighteen mile creek valley and must have dammed up the stream and at one time it drained into Cattaraugus Creek near Springville. At the most southerly advance of the ice it reached a point south of Boston, near the Pennsylvania line. There were four or five major advances with warm interglacial intervals, probably covering many thousands of years. The high ridge of hill south of the Cattaraugus Creek is a morain deposited by the last major advance of the ice, which is known as the Wisconsin glaciation. Each advance of the ice up the Boston valley widened and deepened the valley and cut away the spurs between the tributary creeks on each side so that it was gradually converted from a "V" shaped stream valley into a "U" shaped glacial valley.
The Glacier Melted
Whenever the glacier receded, as it melted under warmer conditions, it dropped its load of earth and rocks which it had pushed ahead of it as it came down from the north. This accounts for the boulders of granite brought from Canada and found all over this area. The earth from the glacier washed into the soil and into the lake which was backed up in the valley behind the retreating glacier. The soil in the lake settled to from the wide flat floor of our valley. Some idea of the depth and size of this lake may be had by observing the valley out across the western hill, crossed by the Zimmerman and Feddick roads, where the outlet of this glacial lake overflowed west and down the valley of Hampton Brook.
The last glacier probably melted in Boston Valley about 8,000 to 10,000 years ago. What a desolate landscape our hills and valley must have been. Not a blade of grass nor tree nor shrub but only mud, gravel and rocks everywhere. Gradually, we suppose, seeds were brought in by the birds and winds and vegetation was re-established. As the centuries passed a forest of mixed hardwoods and evergreens covered the landand animals and birds became abundant.
The First Visitors
It was probably 4,500 years after the ice disappeared, or 5,500 years ago, when the first human beings visited the valley. These early visitors were not the Indians that the settlers encountered but a more primitive people who knew nothing of farming nor pottery making. They lived by hunting everything edible; berries, nuts, shellfish, snails, fish, and game. This kind of life required them to move frequently to find more food, so they had no settled life, but moved about wherever food was to be found. Such food as they cooked was roasted over a fire or "stone boiled" by dropping heated stones into bark, skin, or basketry containers to boil the contents. When the hot stones dropped into cold water they often split and these split stones are found at sites along Eighteen Mile Creek. Fish were caught with barbless fish-hooks, spears, and probably nets and notched stone sinkers are sometimes found. Acorns and other vegetal foods were ground on shallow stone mortors, millers or hand grinding stones to form a kind of flour. All these artifacts have been found in the valley. Skins probably provided the only clothing and their weapons were rather crude.
The First Residents
Later than these primitive people were the "woodland people" who practiced some farming, made pottery and made and smoked clay pipes. They may have come into this region from the south and southwest where higher cultures were developing. Probably these Indians came in about 3,000 years ago and were related to the "mound builders" of the Midwest. They raised corn and beans and were therefore more inclined to live in permanent villages than the earlier people. However, as the game was killed off and the agricultural land exhausted, they moved to new locations. Anthropologists are able to distinguish the artifacts of these different cultures.
The Iroquois
Before the Europeans arrived in this part of the country the Indian living hereabouts were known as Eries, from whom our county and great lake are named, Neuters and Wenroes, all related to the Iroquois who formed the Five Nations of the area to the east. Trouble arose between these Indians and the other Iroquois and in 1654 the Eries were exterminated. From then until the Sulivan expedition of the Revolutionary period destroyed their power the Iroquois Five Nations ruled west of the Hudson River, with the Seneca tribe dominant in this area.
The Iroquois Indians, known as Indians of the long house, built houses so poles and bark, in villages, which were sometimes palisaded by setting up logs twenty or more feet high. These palisades were further strengthened by piling earth against them on the inside and outside. As the total population of the Five Nations, at the time when the first Europeans arrived, is estimated at 5,500, have been only a scattered occupation of this area. Where a village existed for any length of time there is bound to be an accumulation of broken pottery, lost tools and weapons, and when the village was abandoned or burned, a surviving ridge of earth where the palisade had been.
An Indian Village
When the first settler arrived in Boston and built his cabin about where Liebler Road intersects Route 219, old records tell us that nearby was an opening in the forest of about thirty acres, except for a few trees. Here was an earthen embankment about two feet high, with a ditch on the outside about two feet deep, enclosing a space of about two and a half acres. "There were a few trees growing on the embankment, one of them being a chestnut from two and two to two and a half feet in diameter." This undoubtedly marked the site of an old palisaded village and may have been in what is now Patchin. It is also recorded that there was a trail from this site to where Hamburg now is and from there along the ridge, where Pleasant Avenue leads to the lake.
By the time the settlers arrived here the Indians were living on reservations at Buffalo, Cattaraugus Creek or elsewhere, but occasionally they would pass through the valley. Their days warfare were over and they were harmless except for petty thievery.
The Wilderness
When the nineteenth century opened on this area the hills and valleys were covered with a dense growth of hardwoods, pines and hemlocks. Much of the valley was swampy and almost impenetrable but there were some exceptions. Charles Johnson, who arrived in 1803, chose his land because there was an opening in the forest of about fifty acres, which he could put under cultivation without the labor of clearing it. Most of the settlers had to cut and burn the trees before they could sow wheat or corn. As there was no market for lumber, in fact no saw mill within reach, the trees were cut and as soon as dry enough were burned. This had its advantages as the wood ashes could be gathered, water leached through them to secure lye, which could then be boiled down to produce "black salts", or potash, which could be sold. This was often the first and only cash-producing product, which the settler could hope for until his crop of wheat or corn could be harvested.
Meat could be had if the pioneer was handy with his gun. Deer, bear, raccoons, rabbits, partridges and wild turkeys were all present in the woods and wildcats and wolves were ready to kill the cows if they wandered far a field. Before the fields and pastures were cleared and fenced all the cattle wore bells to frighten off these animals and so that the stock could be located in the woods and brought home to yard or barn for the night. Bears were partial to pork and the pig pen had to be high nd strong to protect its occupants.
The Land
The Holland Land Company owned all this land and was so eager to sell it that credit was given settlers if they would clear some land, build a cabin and raise crops. The settler "articled" his land; that is, he entered into a contract to make the required improvements on his land and to pay an greed sum each year until principal and interest were paid in full, when he would receive his deed. Land about here was sold for from $2.00 to $2.50 per acre. Many settlers were never able to complete their contract and so either sold their interest in their claims or the land reverted to the company.
When the pioneer arrived at his selected home site the first task was to fell trees and build a logcabin which would serve as a home until mills were built and he became prosperous enough to have frame buildings. The log cabin usually had holes for windows, sometimes covered with cloth in winter, as glass was an expensive luxury. A blanket often served for a door. A fireplace of stone or sticks and clay was usually built a fire on the earth floor. How these hardy folks survived a winter is a mystery to us who live in warm modern houses. Wood was the only fuel but there was plenty of that. The man who could handle an axe could build his cabin, shelter his stock, fence his land, and provide fuel with no other tools.
Oxen were preferred to horses because, although slow, they were strong and capable of hauling heavy loads. There were no roads until enough settlers had come to build them. Trails were followednd enough trees cut to let the cart or sled through. If the mud became too deep for passage tree trunks were laid across to form "corduroy road".
The First Settlers
In the fall of 1803 Charles and Oliver Johnson, brothers, made the first purchase of land in Boston, paying $2.25 per acre. The following spring Charles came into the valley with his family and ettledust south of where Liebler Road joins Route 219. Oliver Johnson, Samuel Eaton, and Samuel Beebe came a little later, settling nearby at the north. In 1805 Deacon Richard Cary, veteran of the Revolutionary War, arrived with a sickly wife and eight children, settling just south of the Johnsons. He had three cents in his pocket and a debt of two dollars but he eventually became a prosperous farmer. His first cabin was twelve feet square, with cloth windows and a blanket for a door, but it sheltered the family of ten. Both the Johnsons and Deacon Cary had to take their first crop of wheat forty miles to Chippewa to have it ground.
In the following years came: Jonathan Bump, Benjamin Whaley, Job Palmer, Ethan Howard, Kester and Serrill Alger. The first frame barn was raised at Charles Johnson's in 1807. The following year Asa Cary, a brother of Richard, took up land south of his. Finally in 1809 a grist mill was rectedy Joseph Yaw, probably near where Boston Village now stands.
The First Church
In 1811, a Free Will Baptist Church was organized and soon after built a church which stood east of Route 219, between Liebler Road and Maplewood Cemetery. Years later when this church ceased to function, the building was moved to Patchin road and converted into a hide house at a tannery. In this church the Rev. Cyrus Andrews preached for ten years. Another Baptist minister, eRev. Clark Carr, settled near the Concord line and preached around here throughout his life.
The War of 1812
The War of 1812 brought dismay to the settlers, as it was feared that the Indians stirred by the British would raid the settlement. Charles Johnson (afterward colonel) was captain of the ilitia.JosephPalmer's barn was stockaded; that is, and enclosure was built about the barn by erecting logs to form a primitive fort, as a place of refuge in case of need. When the British burned Buffalo some of the men were there trying to defend the place. Deacon Cary's son Calvin, a twenty-one year old youth who weighed over three hundred pounds, was attacked by three Indians; he shot one, killed one with his clubbed musket, and was killed and scalped by the third.
Soon after the war the Torrey family located in what is now Boston Village, long known as Torrey's Corners. Captain Torrey kept a tavern there and his sons Erastus and Uriah became prominent citizens. Talcutt Patchin, who served in the regular army and was sounded at the battle of Chippewa, married a daughter of Richard Cary and settled north of the settlement later of bear his name.
The Town is Formed
The Town of Boston was formed on April 5 th , 1817 by dividing the Town of Eden. The name was doubtless borrowed from Massachusetts as New England place names are repeated in many states all the way to Oregon. The first town meeting was held the next year and Samuel Abbott was elected supervisor. Other officers elected were; town clerk, two poor masters, three assessors, four commissioners of highways, one collector, three commissioners of common schools, two constables and twelve overseers of highways. From this record it is clear that considerable settlement of the town had taken place and we read that there were one hundred and fifty-three taxable inhabitants in the town. It was voted to build a pound, where stray animals could be kept until claimed by the owner, and Charles Johnson was elected pound master. Fifty dollars was to be raised by taxation to cover town expenses. Of course a dollar was of far greater value than in the twentieth century, and dollars were very hard to come by. The following Quakers were taxed four dollars each in lieu of military service; Mathew Middleditch, John Kester, Stephen Kester, William Pound, David Laing, Thomas Twining Jr., Aaron Hampton, and James Miller. One result of this meeting was a law that , "Any person who shall suffer a stalk of Canada thistle to bloom on his or her lot or farm shall pay a fine of fifty cents for each blossom to any person suing for the same." Evidently, there were weeds inhe wilderness and foreigners at that.
Aaron Skinner
In February 1818, Aaron Skinner, then twenty-one years old, started from Shelburne, Mass. to walk west to seek his fortune. He walked across part of Massachusetts and all of New York State, nd from Buffalo walked on the ice on Lake Erie to Camp's tavern (near where Camp Road ends). From there, he and three other young men walked to White's Corners (Hamburg). He later wrote that the snow was so deep that there was no work and there was little money in circulation. He went to Batavia, probably walking, seeking employment, but found none and so returned to White's Corners. "When spring opened, he with Linus Dole, took a job of clearing land at $22.00 per acre of a man by the name of Coburn, on Eighteen Mile Creek a mile or two above Johnsonburg. (Probably where the Johnson brothers lived.) He taught school in North Boston and Boston in winter and in summer worked on farms until he was able to buy a farm.
Solomon Fosdick
In 1819, Solomon Fosdick drove a covered wagon from Rensselaerville, near Albany, to Buffalo and then out to Boston, where he worked as a carpenter for many years. At first the family lived in a log cabin east of Route 219 a little north of the intersection of the Boston Colden Road. "Living in a log cabin with nine children could not have been, even under the happiest circumstances, an easy arrangement," wrote Raymond Fosdick, a lineal descendent. Later the family moved to a frame house on the Trevett Road, near the town line. The Fosdicks were eager to advance themselves andolomon taught his trade to three of his sons. Torrey's Corner's with a population of perhaps twenty-five families, was beginning to show signs of future growth.
Early Industries
The first industry that was established in Boston seems to have been a distillery at Torrey's Corners, about 1818. No license was required in those days and drinking was very general. A mail route fromuffalo to Olean, through Hamburg, Boston and Concord was established in 1820 and a post office was opened at Torrey's Corners with the name of Boston. There was a tannery in Torrey's Corners and one on the Patchin Road, owned by a Mr. Stephens, and about this time Talcutt Patchin built another tannery here.
The Churches
A Presbyterian Church was organized here at an early date and in 1837 Solomon Fosdick and his son, John Spencer, built the building which still stands on the west side of Route 219 in the village of Boston. This building, known as St. Paul's, has been used by several denominations. As early as 1814, a Baptist organization existed in Torrey's Corners and in 1834, they erected a church building just south of where St. Paul's now stands, but this was torn down many years ago.
The Methodist Church was not formed until 1824 and the Boston building was built in 1852. In 1857, a German United Evangelical Church was incorporated and bought the Presbyterian building and took the name St. Paul's Church. St. Martin's Lutheran Church, on the Cole Road, was built in 1861, and in 1869 St. John the Baptist Roman Catholic Church was built on the Boston Cross Road.
A Wet Fire
Apropos this account of a distillery and the churches a story comes down to us without documentation. It seems that in the 1850's, there was a tavern across the road from St. Paul's Church, and when it caught fire the neighbors hurriedly formed a bucket brigade to fight the fire. Although they were unable to save the building, they did save the stock of liquor which was carried across to the church. The owner was so graeful for their efforts that he invited them all over to the church where they consumed the stimulants. It was reported that they had such a merry time that it was necessary to redecorate the interior of the church after their revels.
John Twining and Benjamin Kester with some other Quakers settled at what came to be known as North Boston. A sawmill operated there as early as 1816 and a tavern soon after. There was a family of Thayers, the father, Israel Thayer and three sons: Nelson, Israel Jr., and Isaac. They were a poor family and had borrowed money from a boarder, John Love. He lived with them when not sailing the lakes in summer or peddling in winter. In the fall of 1824, John Love disappeared after staying for a time with the Thayers. Soon after this the Thayer boys were observed to have more money to spend than formerly and to be riding Love's horse about. When questioned thy said that he was away but had given them the use of the horse. Shortly after this they tried to collect debts owed to Love and when they produced a power of attorney, which was obviously forged, suspicion of foul play was aroused. The authorities offered a reward of ten dollars, quite a sum in those days, to anyone who could find Love's body. Afteran all day search it was found a few yards from the cabin of Israel Jr. where it was buried in a shallow grave with some brush thrown over it. This was in the gully between the present Zimmerman and Heinrich Roads.
All four Thayers were arrested and the boys confessed that they had murdered John Love. The father was freed but the three sons were hung on the west side of Niagara Square in Buffalo on June 7 th , 1825. The execution attracted a large crowd to whom a sermon was preached before the hanging. This story is the most widely known of any event in the history of Boston.
in North Boston
A post office was opened in North Boston in 1832. In 1843, there were nineteen families living here, totaling forty-three people. In the fall of that year an epidemic occurred in which twenty-eight people were all ill and ten died. An investigation showed that all these families but one were using water from a well at a tavern. One man had quarreled with the inn keeper and his family secured their water elsewhere and was the only family to escape the illness. It was learned that a traveler had died of typhoid fever at the tavern shortly before the epidemic and that it was this disease which was prevalent. Without any doubt, the well had become contaminated and had spread the disease but apparently that was not understood at the time. We hope they closed the well. In any case, there seems to have been no recurrence.
Politics in North Boston
For several years following 1846, political conventions for the southern district of Erie County were held at North Boston by both parties. These brought many visitors to the town and enlivened the place considerably but after the Erie Railroad was built through Hamburg most of the conventions were held there.
In 1840 a Quaker Meeting House was built. Later it was converted into a dwelling, now the home of Mrs. John Dominski.
We do not know when the first school was opened in the town, but since there were three commissioners of common schools elected in 1818, there evidently were schools operating or contemplated. The early schools were very elementary and were open for only a few weeks in the year, as the children were kept busy at home most of the year. The Fosdick boys attended a school near where the Boston-Colden Road meets Route 219, and after finishing there, they walked to Springville to attend the Springville Academy. The Trevett Road was the only route to Springville then, but a walk of over twenty miles a day did not seem too great a price for an education. There were no school buses and they did not need a gymnasium.
Boston Centre
The first settlement was made in the center of the township and this hamlet was called Boston Centre for many years. Here Talcutt Patchin operated his tannery for about ten years, and then he decided to try a fresh start in life. He took his wife and three children to Olean, where he built a flatboat and floated to New Orleans, going from there to that part of Mexico which later became Texas. In 1850 the citizens of Boston Centre petitioned for a post office but were told to select another name to avoid confusion with Boston and North Boston. They selected Patchin as the name of their post office in honor of their former neighbor who was gone but not forgotten.
A Universalist Church Society was formed here in 1835, and before 1850 they had built the building now the Town Hall. This building stood practically unused for over fifty years but was kept up by the Universalist Women's Sewing Society until taken over by the Community Church.
John Anthony bought a farm here some time in the 1830's where, with his wife and ten children, he carried on a successful farming operation. He was supervisor two years, justice of the peace sixteen years, and town clerk eight years. He and others set out extensive apple orchards in the valley. It is revealing to read an account book kept by him, between 1835 and 1845, of wages and prices of those days. For one day's work in the shop together with
Drawing a log for a trough $.75
For two days' chopping $1.25
For one and a half days' harrowing $.94
4 quarts milk $.06 1 lb. 10 oz. butter at .15 per lb. $.25
½ bu. Oats $.18
4 doz. Eggs at .09 per doz. $.36
Other farmers were raising sheep, and a woolen mill was busy just north of the Edgar Rockwood farm, 1.1 miles south of Patchin. Several saw mills and grist mills operated at various times along Eighteen Mile Creek but it is difficult to find any trace of them now.
Civil War Times
In the years before the Civil War, many Germans were coming to this country and several families came to Boston. Martin Keller had a tavern, a store, a blacksmith shop and a tailor shop in a little community of Germans on the Feddick Road near the Keller Road, but no trace of this community remains.
There are no records of the men who went from Boston to serve in the Civil War, but there are at least twenty veterans buried in the cemeteries. How many fell in battle or died in prisons or hospitals we do not know, but the men of Boston answered the call to arms.
The Bell Factory
There used to be a bell factory in Boston Village, operated by the Yaw family. It was the largest bell factory in the United States, making five hundred cow and sheep bells a day beside staples and hasps. We do not know when it started nor when it closed, but an atlas of 1866 shows the factory just below the Catholic Cemetery across the creek from Boston. Another atlas of 1880 shows that it had been moved east of the main road a little north of Boston Cross Road. There are a few of the old bells in the valley but the business died when the farmers finished clearing and fencing their pastures.
Distinguished Citizens
Ambrose Yaw had a daughter, Ellen Beach Yaw, born in 1868, in the house east of Naber's store on the Boston Cross Road, who was to become perhaps the widest known Bostonian. She developed a splendid voice and, after study in Europe. She traveled all over the United States and Europe doing concert singing. She sang soprano and could hit a higher note than any other singer atthe time. She died in California where she had lived for several years.
In the mid nineteenth century the brothers, Orrin and Jesse Lockroad were prominent citizens. They lived in the house earlier occupied by Talcutt Patchin, now the Simmeth place, near Omphalius Road on Route 219. Orrin was supervisor several years and later sheriff of the county. Jesse was a magistrate and justice of the sessions. Two other brothers were prominent in the county. Dr. T. T. Lockwood was an eminent physician and at one time mayor of Buffalo. The Hon. Daniel H. Lockwood served as district attorney and member of congress.
Van Rensselaer Cary, grandson of Deacon Richard Cary, was a successful farmer, civic minded citizen, and early president of the Erie County Agricultural Society.
As hemlock trees were plentiful here and the bark was used to tan hides into leather, tanneries were built all over the country. There was a tannery, previous to 1870, on the creek bank in Boston Village and there were two others in Boston Centre. After the hemlock trees were cut off and chemical tanning developed, all these tanneries went out of business.
Early Library
The Boston Centre Library Association was formed in Patchin in 1889. This library was housed in the home of Thomas Cole, back of a blacksmith shop, on the northwest corner of Patchin Road and Route 219. Later it was in the home of Dr. Blanchard. After seven years the library was closed and the books were divided among the members.
The Road to Springville
The road from Hamburg to Springville probably follows the old Indian trail as far as that extended, and beyond that point the early settlers blazed a trail following the route of least resistance. By 1812, a road was open to Springville, but from the bridge south of Boston Village, it followed the route of Trevett Road. It was not until 1840 or 1841 that the present route of the State Road was opened. As the road was the only means of contact with the larger settlements, it was a community project to maintain and improve it. Road taxes were worked out instead of being paid in cash. It was a narrow dirt road until about 1850, when a private company took it over and built a plank road for the use of which toll was collected. A toll house stood just north of Howard Cary's house, south of Liebler Road. Sawed timbers, three of four inches thick, were laid across the road forming a paved surface which, when new, seemed a great improvement over the mud and dust of the old highway. But the planks soon warped and curled up and broke in weak spots so that the road deteriorated rapidly. In ten or twelve years the company gave up trying to keep the road in repair and its upkeep reverted to the town. Probably much of it was buried under gravel. A few years ago the remains of this road was uncovered, in a ditch, several feet below the present highway. For many years the road was dusty in summer, muddy in spring and fall, and snow covered in winter. In sufficed for the horse drawn vehicles as residents of the town seldom traveled farther away than Buffalo. Finally in 1909, the State took over this road and a paved road was built. This and the advent of the automobile began to change the whole picture of the countryside.
Growth of a village
Before the days of paved roads and automobiles, the people of the town depended upon local stores and shops to supply their needs. Stores, taverns, and post offices had to be within easy driving distance of the farm, and this accounts for the three hamlets Boston, Patchin, and North Boston, each with its post office.
About 1890, there were in the village of Boston, the following places of business; one general store, a grocery store with the post office, four shoe shops, four blacksmith shops, two hotels, a wagon shop, a hardware and tin shop, a saw mill, a grist mill, a jewelry store, a harness shop, a meat market and a telegraph office. There was a doctor, a lawyer, carpenters and masons, all dependent on the patronage of those living in and around the village. A horse drawn stage ran from Hamburg to Springville daily. Several cheese factories operated outside the village within easy hauling distance of the farms, where milk was proving to be the best paying product.
Oil and Gas
The 1880, a pipeline had been laid from Pennsylvania to Buffalo to bring crude oil to the refinery.This line passes through Boston and is still in use, with a daily capacity of 5,000 barrels. Several wells were drilled n the town in the hope of striking oil but none were successful. It was several years later that gas producing wells were drilled, although there were several springs in Boston which gave off gas.
The Horse Thief
About 1890, there was excitement caused by the stealing of several horses. A vigilantes committee was formed, officers elected, and the members were sworn in as deputy sheriffs. When, in the fall, a valuable bay mare was stolen from Charles Churchill, who lived on Route 219, 1.3 miles south of Patchin, the vigilantes when into action. They determined who the thief was, but it was some time in mid winter before he was apprehended as he drove through Colden. As it was late in the day, the officer took his clothes away from him and locked him in a second story room at the hotel, intending to take him to jail in Buffalo in the morning. Some time in the night, the thief threw the bedclothes from the window, dropped into a snow bank, hitched up the horse and escaped.
He was traced through Holland to South Wales, where the trail was lost. The next day his home was located, near East Aurora, and the stolen bedclothes were found under the barn. After watching the house two nights he was almost caught when he drove in with groceries for his family. He escaped by running away, but a thaw had set in and he lost his boots in a muddy field. The next morning the searchers found a farm where he had told the farmer that he had lost his boots while hunting a lost cow, and had been given an old pair of boots. A day later, he was located but again ran away before he could be caught. Although a reward of $50 was offered he was not apprehended.
Boston Fires
On a cold night in 1903, a dance was in progress at Schunk's Hotel in Patchin when a fire broke out in the horse shed spread to the hotel. Over a hundred guests vacated the hall but some lost their overcoats and wraps, which caused considerable discomfort, as it was twenty degrees below zero. The hotel and the town hall across the road burned down, but this prompted Fred Frank to organize the first fire company, in North Boston. The Boston Fire Company was formed in the fall of 1908, and at a later date, a company was organized in Patchin. Beginning with old fashioned hand pumps these companies have repeatedly acquired improved equipment until today the town has three well equipped fire fighting organizations with a mutual aid arrangement.
Through the years, there have been many fires in Boston, but most of them have been confined to one or two buildings. In 1893, several buildings burned in the village of Boston, but the worst fire took place there on August 20 th , 1920. Fire started shortly after midnight in the Boston Garage, where the village fire pumper was temporarily housed. Being unable to save the pumper left the fireman to form a hopeless bucket brigade. Calls went out to nearby places and their fireman responded. A call to Buffalo brought a fire engine from there. A flood had washed out two bridges in the valley, but in spite of that, the run from Buffalo was made in thirty-five minutes and the engine pumped from the creek onto the fire. However it was too late to save five buildings: Boston Garage, the house of Charles Hund, the two story Grange Hall, Schmitt's hotel, and the hotel of Jacob Michardzinski. The loss was estimated at $30,000.
The Buffalo and Susquehanna Railroad
In 1903, construction was started on a railroad through the Boston
Valley. A steam shovel, donkey engines, and dump cars were brought
in to make the cuts and fills to form a roadbed along the eastern
hillside. Building a trestle across the gullies made most of the
fills and dumping earth from them but at Landon Brook, south of
Boston Village, the gully was so deep that cables were stretched
across and tracks laid on them instead of building a trestle.
In 1906, people were delighted when the Goodyear brothers of Buffalo began operating the railroad from Buffalo to Wellsville. This railroad formed a connection between railroads, saw mills, and coal mines owned by the Goodyears in Pennsylvania, and their docks and steamships on the lakes. It was advertised as the "scenic route" and was busy with both passenger and freight traffic, but it lasted only ten years as the whole Goodyear empire began to crumble. In 1916, the tracks and bridges were sold as junk, at wartime prices, and later most of it was shipped to France but, it is said, part of it was sunk in the Atlantic by Germans submarines. The loss of the railroad was a dire blow to the prosperity shipping facilities to take its place.
The Boston Valley Telephone Company
When the railroad was being built in 1904, the contractor on this section wanted a telephone so that he would not have to drive to Hamburg each time he needed to contact his employer or order supplies. He interested Frank X. Weber, and together they visited the telephone companies in Hamburg and Buffalo but they were not willing to extend their lines as they did not think there would have enough subscribers to make a line pay. Frank X. Weber, Fred Frank and Jacob Broadbeck organized the Boston Valley Telephone Company and sold shares for $10, only one to a person. These men, with some help, set the poles and strung the wires. Mr. Corbit, the railroad contractor, was the first to have a telephone installed. It was planned to have one telephone each in North Boston, Patchin, and Boston, but by the time the line was finished, there were several subscribers. Eventually, there were seventeen lines extending as far as Colden, West Falls, New Oregon, and half way to Springville. In 1925, there were 342 telephones in operation, and 351 shares had been sold. This local company operated from 1905 to 1932 and paid an average dividend of more that 10%. On January 1 st , 1932 the Bell Telephone Company took over the lines after paying the stockholders $32,000. This local effort had paid off handsomely.
Rural Free Delivery
When in 1908 the rural free delivery of mail was started in Boston, Howard Owen began delivering mail with a horse and buggy. He continued his daily rounds until 1957, but in the later years he used an automobile. During World War II, he published a monthly booklet, the Boston Valley News, which he mailed to everyone who was in service from here. These booklets were much appreciated by the service men.
Boston Creamery and Grange
About 1909, the Boston Creamery Association opened a creamery, on the Boston Colden Road just off Route 219, to which many farmers brought their milk. This building has since been converted into a dwelling.
In 1911, the Grange was organized with twenty-six members. After meeting in various places for four years, the Grange bought Hund's Hall n Boston Village. This building was destroyed by fire in 1920. As the Grange grew in membership, it became increasingly difficult to secure satisfactory meeting places and in 1933, the present Grange building was started. Dedication took place October 14 th , 1935. In 1936, they celebrated their silver anniversary. The Rockwood and Trevett families furnished more members than any other families, and Mrs. Eliza Trevett who lived to the age of ninety-eight was an active.
The Back Creek Murder
History repeats itself, and in 1944, murder again occurred in our town. In a summer cottage on the Back Creek Road between North Boston and Patchin, Walter Nowicki of Blasdell, shot and killed Jacob Schmidt and his son, Lawrence Schmidt. He also wounded Miss Edna Halliday. The victims were all from Kenmore. Nowicki then turned the gun on himself with fatal result. A love triangle seems to have been the cause of the tragedy.
Bicycle Races
Each year the Boston fire companies have held a carnival to raise money to carry on their work. Beginning in 1949 and continuing until 1959, international bicycle races were held in connection with the carnival at Patchin. These were arranged by Ted Nowak and resulted in two Olympic trials and attracted considerable interest of sports fans.
The Conservation Society
In 1920, the Boston Rod and Gun Club was organized, and in 1931, it became the Boston Valley Conservation Society. In 1949, a long club house was completed on Zimmerman Road. This building has served the community well, not the least among the activities centering there have been the many square dances.
The Doctors
The town has been exceedingly fortunate in the doctors who have served the ill and the ailing. Dr. Blanchard lived in Patchin for a long time, and later Dr. Jennings came to Boston Village. He traveled over the hills for miles around for nearly fifty-seven years, answering all calls of sickness and distress at any time of day or night, in all kinds of weather. Dr. Jehle also served for many years in the same village. More recently Dr. Hans Krakauner carried on in the same fine tradition until his death in 1961.
Boston Free Library
After the death of Dr. Jennings, a memorial library was started in the village of Boston in 1939, with Leland Dye as president. This library served for a time, but it was difficult to finance it adequately and its usefulness was limited. In 1947, a movement was started by George Stein, which resulted in the formation of the Boston Free Library Association. A library was opened in the old firehouse on the Boston Cross Road. In January 1949, this library became a part of the county system and since then has been operated under contract with the Buffalo and Erie County Public Library. In 1955, the library moved into the remodeled brick schoolhouse on the State Road. Later, the building was acquired by purchase from the school district. This library, with county assistance in financing, continues to grow and stimulate intellectual growth, especially among the children and younger residents.
Boston Economy
The economy of Boston has changed greatly over the years. After the difficult times of early settlement, it developed as a general farming area. Sheep, producing wool and mutton, were profitable for a time; but as the land was cleared and put under cultivation, it became evident that the hill farms were best adapted to milk production, potatoes and cabbage, while the richer land of the valley was suitable for more diverse crops. Fruit growing became popular and at one time there were extensive apple orchards in the valley. As the hill farms were cultivated, the topsoil washed away and they became unproductive. Polish emigrants, who by hard work and long hours have succeeded in making a living in spite of the poor soil, brought many of these farms on the west hill.
Whereas in earlier times, life on the farm was hard and social contacts few, the introduction of electricity of lighting and power, (about 1922 in the valley and later on the hills), the telephone, radio and television have revolutionized country living. Improved farming and milking machines have lightened the labor and improved communications have opened new vistas socially.
Recent Changes
Mrs. May Pingrey is believed to be the oldest living resident of the town. She has seen many changes during her lifetime. Automobiles have brought the city nearer, and more and more of the residents of the town have found employment in the industries of the city to supplement or take the place of the farm. This has changed the character of Boston to a considerable degree. The beauty of our countryside has long been recognized and many city dwellers are moving into the town and building developments are wiping out the farm lands of the past. It now looks as if within a few years it will become a typical suburban community. The building of the modern elementary school in North Boston in 1959 marked a great advance in educational opportunity for the children.
Because Boston has changed so much through the years and the new residents know so little of its past, this brief history has been written. This history may not be long or important to the nation, but it is worth preserving; and we who live here should be proud to be Bostonians.
For further details on Boston history see:
- The collected material of the Town Historian in Boston Free Library.
- Johnson, Crisfield, History of Erie County, 1876
- Smith, H. Perry, History of Buffalo and Eire County, 1884
- White, Truman, History of Erie County, 1898
- Fosdick, Raymond B., Annals of the Fosdick Family
- Topographical Atlas of Erie County, 1866
- Illustrated Historical Atlas of Erie County, 1880
- Reinstein, Julia Boyer, Historical Atlas of Cheektowaga.
- Ashcraft, A pictorial History of the Building of the B. & S.R.W. in Boston
Boston Service Record
The following men are known to have gone from Boston to serve their country in war, but there are doubtless others whose records are lost.
War of 1812
Civil War
World War I
World War II
Those Who Did Not Come Back
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