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Apple denies Amazon's claims that "app store" term is generic
0. phoneArena 20 May 2011, 04:45 posted on
In a yet another twist to the lawsuit which has turned to be as close to a linguistic dispute as it gets, Apple now denies Amazon's claims that "App Store" is a generic term…
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1. clevername (Posts: 1436; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)
If its trademarked then its apples case. Generic would be more like "application store". And "app store" isn't commonly used anyway. For android its the "Android market", wp7 its the "marketplace", BlackBerry had the "app world". These are all named differently to differentiate from Apple offering on purpose. the closest example would be nokias "ovi app store". Even carrier application stores are different like att's "appcenter". There's also the "t-zone" that serves the same purpose, as well as the "Samsung zone" and I'm sure plenty of others.
I can't say amazon is trying to cash in on the recognition since the people that will recognize it the most are Apple users and they can't use amazon's app store anyway since its Android only, but they are definitely infringing upon a trademark by making a competing store on a competing platform with the same name.
7. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
Other app stores are called different names because of the trademark Apple has on "The App Store." Microsoft and Amazon are just the first folks to fight Apple on the clam. Trust, if other companies could, they'd drop the names of their current store fronts and adopt App Store because most folks associate apps with "The App Store."
There is only one problem with the case for Microsoft and Amazon...the term "App Store" wasn't common and rarely used before Apple launched "The App Store." This wasn't a case of Nintendo trademarking "It's On Like Donkey Kong" years after people had been saying as a phrase. Apple came up with a concept for a software store front, named it, and because it was the first people refer to any storefront like it as an "App Store."
And although it's in general use by consumers, trademark law says if you file a trademark it is your duty to defend your trademark at all costs or the term will fall into generic use in which case, your trademark is no longer valid. Even though consumers use the term generically, Apple has not allowed any other company to refer to their store front as "The App Store." Only if they let Android and WP7 slip and use it would they not have a case...
12. sinfulta (Posts: 274; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
Yes, this goes back years and years. Just like when people Used to buy Coke-Cola or Pepsi-Cola. Pepsi after years of coke hearing it as a Generic term being used, didn't really fight it differently till the late 80's early 90's and rebranded to just Pepsi. Even in there commercials they told you how to order your Cola of choice by asking for : "A Pepsi". So even if they loose, it could be one of those scenarios where they just might end up changing the name anyways. Coke stuck in people's head so bad it worked to they're advantage and not because Pepsi was an inferior product... but because the marketing terms that was used. Similar case here. In the end it doesn't really matter. Android vs Apple, Pepsi vs Coke, your still going to choose what floats your boat.
2. g (unregistered)
Can't agree more with you, clevername, and it's this total lack of creativity that's really disturbing - couldn't they just come up with Amazon App Center, or whatever? It seems that innovation is being denied at its core even for things as basic as a name, let alone a product.
3. Junior (Posts: 52; Member since: 09 Jun 2010)
Regardless of what OS I'm using, or anyone for that matter, we all tend to call them "apps" which, of course, is short for applications. Apple may have popularized the term but they certainly didn't coin it. Amazon and Microsoft have a valid argument in saying that it's generic but I'm interested in seeing what the courts say.
5. g (unregistered)
But it's the "App Store" term that they have coined, kind of.
15. Junior (Posts: 52; Member since: 09 Jun 2010)
Right. But what I meant to say is that it's generic in the way that any of the stores can be called app stores because that's what they sell....apps.
30. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Ummmm, they used to be called PROGRAMS. It's Apple that started calling it "Apps". So yes, you are calling it "apps" now because Apple started it.
41. box (unregistered)
gemini, again you exhibit your bias and ignorance: apple is NOT the first company to call a program an Application nor an App; that was done years before apple started developing thier poor excuse of a phone with stolen technology and cheap slave-like chinese labor
42. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
no, they wernt the FIRST but they were the first to make everyone start calling it that...
48. SomeGuy (unregistered)
Right, Lucas.
And "box".... Cheap slave-like Chinese labor? You gotta be joking me. You've just named 95% of big business in the US.
49. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
what? i dont even know what u r trying to say...
4. andro (unregistered)
Apple being typically childish here again, especially knowing its own app store is being eroded by android ones and amazon market now entering the scene. How can app store be anything other than a generic term,next apple will claim 'sim card' or 'syncing' or 'music download' or 'smartphone' are terms owned by them and not a generic terms,much like the ridiculous claims from them previous that all cds or otherwise with an apple on it is violating their trade mark,grocery shops beware!!!!
28. lollipop (Posts: 43; Member since: 15 Feb 2011)
You are an idiot. So what you are telling me is a i can name my product after a generic word like WINDOWS or i can trademark the name PIZZA HUT but i can't trademark the name "App Store"?
Anyone in the computer world knows that for the longest time the term APPLICATIONS was used to denote software running on a Mac. Windows, MS-DOS, and what not termed software running on their devices as Programs. When Linux came out they termed software running on there CPUs as Packages. Infact the anti apple crowd used to CRONE on and ON about how childish Apple was for using the term "Apps" to identify the programs running on Macs.
So if you want to argue generic then why was ther term Apps used EXCLUSIVELY to Apple products until after the intoduction of the iPhone? Also not to kick you in the crotch but there was a Grocery chain who owned and operated under the name "The Grocery Store."
6. who cares (unregistered)
It is a generic term. Even though they would of called it the application store, people would of still called it the app store cuz it means the same thing in general.
8. Slammer (Posts: 1515; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
I always feel Apple is trying to quell any kind of competition with childish tactics including trying to use the patent office as a joke.
However, I don't see where Apple having "App Store" as their proprietary name should be an issue. Amazon is better than this. They should just choose another name and move on. If people like Amazon, they can adapt to what ever name they come up with. This is a chance to be more creative. I don't like the name App Store anyway.
John B.
9. superpooburger (Posts: 31; Member since: 17 Feb 2011)
well, why does everyone is shouting about this?
app store is a generatic expresion used to name a application store. A shop in which you can buy application. For as long as you use name in that meaning, you do not do anything iligal. But when you give an application or anything else a name "app store" then you are violating trademarked. So MS and amazon can not give their own app store name "app store"...
11. Rich (unregistered)
And they are not named "app store" but they are app stores. I can say im going to the gas station when im going to hess. But the first gas station cannot start complaining that they coined the phrase gas station.
if i open an eating establishment and call it 'restaurant' i cant sue if any OTHER peoples places commercial claims "come to the restaurant and recieve a free..." that would be just silly.
if thats the case ill go trademark many generic things right now. "laundromat" "pizza parlor" and whenever someone uses that phrase to refer to their place... BOOM... ill get em.
29. lollipop (Posts: 43; Member since: 15 Feb 2011)
Umm... i suggest you look up "The Grocery Store" which was a grocery store that owned and operated under the name "The Grocery Store."
What is the difference between Pizza Parlor and Pizza Hut? Hell, are you against the trademarked names of, Fresh Market, Whole Foods, Best Buy, Steam, The Cellular Store, and The Mattress Store? All of them are existing businesses...
13. Ben (unregistered)
Apple calls its phone the 'iphone' therefore form hence forth any mobile device named with the title 'phone' will be infringing on a name trademark from apple and YOU WILL BE SUED
Do not upset Apple they are worried enough on losing ground to android and surpassing app stores,DO NOT AGGREVATE THEM FURTHER!
14. obvious (unregistered)
A shoe store is where you buy shoes, an APP store is where you buy... apps.
I don't think anyone can trademark "Shoe Store", same goes for "App Store."
16. r2212xx (Posts: 41; Member since: 18 Apr 2011)
Tomorrow Apple will say 'Apple' is not a generic word. (Botanists will have to think a new name for the fruit).
Day after tomorrow it will say that 'half eaten apple' is a copyright of Apple (we will have to finish our apples complete or leave them intact. No eating them half and leaving it in the refrigerator for tomorrow).
19. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)
Ben,obvious and last but not least r2212xx u guys are .. just plain ..dumb... and completely miss the point... if you trademark whatever that might be.. u cant use it ..period... trademarks are regulated by the US Patent and Trademark office, and is up to thier judgment to either reject or not... not apple or anyone else.. so... dont hate... and show some class on the topcis, and informed first before typing......
26. p0rkguy (Posts: 685; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)
Silly fanboy, how is Apple going to deny generic use of the term when Steve Jobs himself used it on their own competition?
That alone makes it generic.
31. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Yes, because apps became a common term for programs after it gained popularity on Apple products. But it is TRADEMARKED under Apple as a term they call their programs as.
44. p0rkguy (Posts: 685; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)
No you fanboy. You don't get it. Steve Jobs himself used the term to describe the competition. That alone allows the competition to say the same about themselves.
What now you fanboys don't want to agree on something Steve Jobs said? Are you sure you want to go against God like that?
32. r2212xx (Posts: 41; Member since: 18 Apr 2011)
Well the point is not being plain or dumb or anything else. The point is there are many things out there that are so generic and common that it is insanity to copyright or trademark it. That is what the issue is all about. If today it is the term 'app' then tomorrow it might be the word 'Apple'. Imagine paying a royalty in the US patent office everytime you eat an apple. Wouldn't it be weird ? And yes my friend we need a little less ''class on topics'' and ''info before typing'' than you do...
35. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
You're not getting it. Apple the software and computer company is different from the apple fruit that you are eating. Just like the Amazon internet store is different from the Amazon warriors in the Amazon. Just like Microsoft Windows is different from the windows of your house. You stikk don't get it huh?
17. Hi (unregistered)
hey that's belong to apple people!!!! you all soon cant call "Apple" (the fruit) anymore you need to change it cause' its belong to apple!!!!
18. Hi (unregistered)
ooops someone mention that already sorri i didnt read all the comments :)
20. dandirk (unregistered)
"Apple" is trademarked as a technological company name. Actually they trademarked Apple Inc. I believe. This does NOT mean we have to rename fruit.
Trademarked names generally can only be applied to the sector of business they are trademarked in and used to prevent brand hijacking in the same market. Though there are circumstances where if proved the name was created to take advantage of the branding/marketing of the trademark holder, the trademark could be upheld.
I could open an "Apple" car dealership and Apple Inc could sue, but would loose because my dealership and Apple's business do not overlap markets. Unless they could prove the only reason I named my dealership "Apple" was to ride Apple Inc's marketing coat-tails.
This is the reason Monster Cables sues everyone with "Monster" in their name and looses. But as mentioned before trademark holders have to defend their trademark (usually by lawsuits) to keep it. So essentially companies know they will loose but have to sue anyways to prove they are defending their trademark.
It is my personal opinion that "App Store" is just too generic to properly trademark. The generic term is rooted in the market it services (store for apps), while other generic termed trademarks (like "Apple") are generally not a from the same vocabulary set as the market it services. Aka Apple=fruit not apple=computer term. Aka good luck successfully trademarking Motherboard for a motherboard company.
Just because Apple made the term popular does not make it generic but theirs imho. Now if people used the term "iStore" to reference an app store as common language use then that is a different story. Just like "Google" has become a verb and a generic term for search engine.
As others have mentioned, Apple is just doing what they are allowed to get away with. They should have NEVER gotten the trademark to begin with. Its not their fault, the people that approved it are the once creating the problem.
36. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
I agree with your early paragraphs, but not the latter ones.
Apple was the only one using "applications" instead of "programs". It's always been called "programs". When the iphone and ipad gained popularity, so did their apps (programs). So yes, they have every right to own the term "App Store" or even "Applications" for that matter.
45. p0rkguy (Posts: 685; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)
Microsoft popularized operating systems. Why is Apple using "OS"X? Microsoft has every right to own the term OS.
21. Ben (unregistered)
*gallitoking* I'm gonna trademark the word 'food' and if i ever hear you mention the word you'd get sued Steve Jobs style,once its trademarked its mine despite the generic makeup of the english language of it. Hmmmmm how many other companies have used or trademarked the word 'store'? Apple could be in trouble with that stupid logic!
40. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)
you are just as dumb as your comments... it would only affect me if I open a store or try to market products under your word.. food.... but you wont get it aproved in the 1st place.. u dummba$$... and is not the words that are trademark is the combination of both... app store.. if you only say app ..yopur are good and if you only say store.. no foul.. but if you try to market your product.. whaterver that might be.. using the words app store, than expect to be sued... get it or you want me to go kidergarten on you?...
22. Techman2000 (unregistered)
Anyone else see the truth behind all these bizarre legal complaints and childish attempts of suing is that apple is indeed worried its all slipping slowly away from them from android overtaking to other app stores taking prominence
Its good fun to see!
24. snowgator (Posts: 3583; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
I would not be surprised to see Apple win this one. @dandirk did a great job defining the purpose of a trademark- to protect a name that has become associated with a product you sell. "app store" is very generic, but Apple did trademark it, and Amazon is selling the exact type of product that Apple is, using a name trademarked by a different company. If this isn't upheld, what is the point of trademarks to protect your product?
I agree that all sites that sell apps will be referred to by the public as "app stores", but that is different then a company using it to further their own version of the same product.
27. p0rkguy (Posts: 685; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)
It became generic when Steve Jobs used it when refering the competition. Just abiding by his words.
25. dandirk (unregistered)
I don't think Apple is worried at ALL... They make more money then companies 5x their size, their products are considered the leaders in almost EVERY market they are in (for hand held devices at least).
Apple has worked hard to achieve this success through decent easy to use products and Branding, Marketing.
Branding is VERY important. Tough to get a good brand name out there, hold it and VERY easy to wreck.
Apple is doing everything in their power to expand and protect their brand name, because it is VITAL to their business.
A study that came out that says Apple fans seem to share the same type of brain patterns that religious people have when thinking about their product/religion.
omputing/apple-causes-religious-reaction-in-brains-of-fans-say-neurosc ientists/
That is the power of the Apple brand name, and Apple knows this and will do anything to protect it.
33. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
To those who keep on whining about Apple's trademark of the "App Store". I challenge you to produce a computer chip and name it "Intel". "Intel" is a word also commonly used as a shortcut for "intelligence" in the CIA or FBI. Or, I challenge you to produce a software company and name it "Windows". Windows are of course very common part of the house. All houses have windows right? So go ahead and let's see what happens.
34. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Or better yet, I challenge you to put out an internet store and name it "Amazon". "Amazon" is known for its rainforests. It's also known as a tribe of strong and brave women. So there. Go ahead, and let's see what happens.
37. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Btw, my ipad2 is now in Alaska. Can't wait, lol.
38. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
I've heard that Nokia is renaming Symbian. They're renaming it to "Android". That should be ok, right? I mean an "android" is another generic name for a "robot". And Nokia's first Android phone will be called "Blackberry". That should be fine as well right? I mean we all know that a blackberry is a popular fruit right? And Nokia will be selling their first Nokia Android Blackberry phone on their new website called "Amazon". We all know that "Amazon" is also a generic word, so it should be fine right?
39. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Here's the reply of fandroids.
"Android" is trademarked by Google. "Blackberry" is trademarked by RIM. "Amazon" is trademarked by Amazon. So those terms are protected and can't be used by Nokia because they've already been trademarked. BUT, it would not be right and it's very immature of Apple to trademark "Apple" and "App Store". That's just wrong.
43. snowgator (Posts: 3583; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Actually laughed a lot during that rant. Well said, Gemini.
46. p0rkguy (Posts: 685; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)
Apple can trademark whatever they want. The fact that Steve Jobs used it to describe other markets instead of their own terms allowed the competition to do whatever they please.
If Steve Jobs didn't mess that part up then Apple would stand a chance.
47. andro (unregistered)
Apple now seems to think they own the english language,they are getting worse by the day i tells you.
Oxford English dictionary will be getting sued by apple next


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How do you determine sale price of your arms?
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> How do you determine sale price of your arms?
February 19, 2003, 02:03 AM
? I see the blue books but they don't seem to reflect what I see most people selling their stuff for.
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February 19, 2003, 05:50 AM
is the best "Guide" I've seen, and usually pretty accurate, though this might be a self-fulfilling prophecy as many people use it
People can ask whatever they want. Doesn't mean it's worth it. Then again, a gun (or anything else for that matter) is worth what someone's willing to pay.
Also, regional differences come into play. I know some stuff brings a lot more in Kali because of the bans. Don't have to deal with that here in Indiana
February 19, 2003, 06:09 AM
I have a simple rule for pricing my guns for sale.
If you offer enogh money to make me giggle and squeel like a little girl, the gun is yours.:neener:
I haven't squeeled yet.:D
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February 19, 2003, 06:43 AM
I usually dont sell, but if I do I check the Blue book and then the shops for similar guns to see what the going prices are.:D
February 19, 2003, 07:50 AM
Easy, I pick a number between 1 and 9 and then add a whole bunch of zeroes to it. My gun collecting philosophy is:
In addition to, not instead of.:D
I do like the "squeal like a little girl" idea though:p
But I'm not holding my breath.
February 19, 2003, 08:22 AM
Shotgun News gives you a fair idea of current prices. Compare that to what you see at gunshows. if you can attend them somewhat regularly you will soon be pretty conversant with prices in general. Blue Book is good mainly for finding out about some obscure model that you aren't too familiar with. It's not always the best guide to pricing but it's another tool in your kit.
February 19, 2003, 08:33 AM
Tarot cards and tea leaves. :)
The Blue Book is a decent tool, but it can be way off on some things. It helps to keep an eye on the market, not only asking prices, but selling prices. (It also helps to have an area you specialize in; I can tell you all about going rates on S&W wheelguns, but I haven't a clue about what pre-WWII Czech pistols are selling for these days. ;) )
February 19, 2003, 08:56 AM
As with anything of subjective value: just keep your ear to the streets.
February 19, 2003, 09:18 AM
I really prefer to buy firearms for life,But I feel selling a used firearm for less than what you paid would be fair,depending on the original cost.or you could possibly use pawn shop tactics and charge more than new retail,and let it sit in your window all year.:banghead: :cuss: :fire: :uhoh:
February 19, 2003, 09:19 AM
Simple. I don't sell.
February 19, 2003, 09:33 AM
If I were to sell my guns (which I definitely won't! :D), I'd post it in a bidding forum/site.
I'll tag it at a ridiculously low price, but I'd have to set my "sell" point or reserve limit at a price I won't feel shortchanged (which the bidders won't know, of course).
Then watch how the buying public reacts to my item.
Only then will I know for certain the fair price of my guns... ;)
Swamp Yankee
February 19, 2003, 09:57 AM
The Blue book is a good place to start. It will at least tell you if the particular model is sought after, made in a limited number, or has any collectible value.
From there, check some local shops and get a feel for what used firearms are selling for in your area. Check prices on new guns of the same model. If your selling used there is the old rule of thumb used guns should be priced between 2/3 and 3/4 of selling price of new.
One website I find really helpful is www.ktpguns.com
This allows you to browse the Kittery Trading Post's extensive selection of used firearms. Condition is listed with the price. This will give you a decent reference point.
Most important, remember gun prices vary greatly by area. Pre- list handguns in Mass. are typically priced for over $100 than here in Ct.
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February 19, 2003, 12:52 PM
and squeel like a little girl
Wish I could find someone to pay me that much! Most places, especially gunshops in my area will have you "squeal like a pig". If I go into a gunshop to sell mine I'll wear a name tag "Ned B.". :D
I do most of my selling by looking at internet prices and with private individuals.
Good Shooting
February 19, 2003, 01:00 PM
I don't sell any of my guns, but if I were to...
1. Check Blue Book
2. Check local gun shops
3. Check Gunsamerica.com
4. Check Gunbroker.com and Auctionarms.com
5. Check the local Want Ads
6. Check Shotgun News
Number 1 should tell you what it's "supposed" to be worth.
2 and 5 should tell you local prices, because they may vary considerably depending on local laws.
3,4, and 6 will tell you what the average across the country is.
Average all of these together, and triple it. That should be your selling price (you didn't really want to sell it anyway, did you?).
February 19, 2003, 01:01 PM
I base it on worth. What would I pay for a gun like this, with a specific round count, that has been well taken care. Look on various forums to see what people would be willing to pay for then post accordingly base on the area.
February 19, 2003, 02:58 PM
when lack of funds got me last year ( Unemployment ) I had to part with one of the kids , My friend at the shop said he would rather loan me the money than to buy my firearm back because of the loss I will encounter, I told him i would rather sell it than owe a friend money as I didn't know how long it would be before I would be back to work . he gave me 80% of new asking price for a used firearm I purchased from him a year earlier , shot it only 6 times since I owned it , I cleaned it up better than when I bought it , and installed some better sights on it ( had those laying around in a box of stuff I bought at a garage sale , so no money outlay ) he thought he was going to sit on this gun for a month , he had it sold in 2 hours to someone looking for the same type of gun , he only made 10 dollars on the deal .
February 19, 2003, 03:37 PM
Price of my arms would depend on whether you wanted the hands too.:neener: :D
February 19, 2003, 06:08 PM
Retail plus a usage fee.:neener: :evil:
February 19, 2003, 09:12 PM
My guns are usually in better condition then when I first bought it..
So when I sell, I sell for what I bought it for, straight across.. almost every gun I own, has a trigger job or something done to it that's not cosmetic, but adds to the guns accuracy..
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Hi, I'm Macy Fisher the Mifflin County Dairy Princess and it's finally March.
That means that the time will be changing soon; actually it will be changing this weekend. That means that it won't be getting dark so early. I love it when the time changes because I can stay outside in the warm weather. Usually in the summer when the evenings are longer, Mandy and I would go swimming. After we would get done milking, we would come home, change into our bathing suits and hit the pool. It is always a cool, refreshing way to end a long day of working. Just talking about it, makes me want to hit the pool, but it is only March.
The one good thing is that in a few weeks Mandy and I will go on a trip with the FFA and there is an inside pool! So I will be able to get my swimming fix then.
This past week I have had a lot of fun events on my calendar. Only one was a dairy promotion, but it was still a fun week. Monday at school I got to spend most of my day out of class baking cookies for Tuesday. Tuesday was the County Public Speaking contest at our school for FFA. Students from all over Huntingdon County came to our school to compete against one another in speech writing. That's what I made all the cookies for.
Tuesday night I got to see the Huntingdon County Dairy Princess in action. She was at our 4-H meeting and did Mix it with Milk with the younger kids. That is where you take different flavors of Jell-O and add it to milk.
Wednesday I had an FFA meeting after school and that was about it for the week.
I was supposed to have track practice all this week, too, but since I haven't had my physical done yet, I am not allowed to go to practice. Mandy and I are both in track this year. Mandy has decided that she is going to run. I can't run, so I am going to throw.
This week was also very lucky for me because I had a new Jersey calf born. She was born on March 1st, which is very good. When you show cows they are broken down into classes by their birthday. The spring calf class starts on March 1st, which means that she will be the oldest in her class and usually the oldest in the class is the biggest. That means that you will have a good chance of winning. Her name is Krisi and she is a cute little thing.
March is a great month for hearty food like potatoes and cream. This month I will be sure to fill that craving, too. This week the recipes are for creamy, dairy, yummy, Irish foods. They are packed full of corned beef and nutrients!
Shamrock Sandwiches
1 package (8-oz.) cream cheese; softened
1/4 cup mayonnaise
2 tablespoon Djion mustard
1 package (2.5-oz.) thinly sliced cooked corned beef, chopped
2 tablespoons grated red onion
2 teaspoons snipped fresh dill
1/4 teaspoon salt
1 round loaf thinly sliced seedless rye bread
In a large mixing bowl, beat the cream cheese, mayonnaise and mustard until smooth. Stir in the corned beef, onion, dill and salt. Using a 2-inch shamrocks cookie cutter, cut out 2 shamrocks from each slice of bread. Spread 1 to 2 teaspoonfuls of filling on the bottoms of half of the shamrocks top with remaining shamrocks.
Hot Pastrami Spread
2 packages (8-oz. each) cream cheese, softened
1/2 cup sour cream
2 packages (2.5-oz. each) thinly sliced pastrami, chopped
1/2 cup finely chopped green pepper
1/3 cup chopped pecans or walnuts, optional
In a small mixing bowl, beat cream cheese and sour cream until smooth. Stir in pastrami and green peppers. Transfer to a greased 1-qt. baking dish. Sprinkle with pecans if desired. Bake uncovered at 350 for 25-30 minutes or until heated through and edges are bubbly. Serve warm.
Dilly Corned Beef Dip
1 can (12 ounces) corned beef
2 cups (16 ounces) sour cream
2 cups mayonnaise
1/3 cup minced fresh parsley
2 tablespoons finely chopped onion
2 tablespoons snipped fresh dill
1/2 teaspoon seasoned dill
Assorted crackers or vegetables
Crumble corned beef into a large bowl. In a small bowl, combine the sour cream, mayonnaise, parsley, onions, dill and seasoned salt. Pour over beef, toss to coat. Serve with crackers or vegetables.
Mint Mocha Shakes
2 cups milk
1 teaspoon vanilla extract
1/8 teaspoon mint extract
1 envelope instant cappuccino Irish cream mix
2 cups chocolate ice cream, softened
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After battling a giant cell tumor in his leg and undergoing three complex surgeries in just more than a year, a McDonald man said he believes he is ready for his comeback.
Jeff Sampson, 42, survived a giant cell tumor in his right tibia. He was unable to work for several months. The tumor is rare but aggressive and non-cancerous, destroying the bone from the inside out, he said.
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McDonald resident Jeff Sampson relaxes at his home after undergoing three extensive surgeries on his right leg to remove a giant cell tumor. He is beginning to return to his normal routine of work and other activities after having to be in his home for recovery period.
McDonald resident Jeff Sampson and his wife, Tammy, and their daughter, Abby, 11, are shown at their home, where Sampson has been recovering from three surgeries on his right leg to remove a giant cell tumor which nearly shattered his leg. Sampson is slowly returning to playing soccer and wants to run in the Turkey Trot on Thanksgiving Day.
McDonald resident Jeff Sampson shows his scars from the three surgeries performed on his right leg after a giant cell tumor formed. The tumor is very rare and threatened to damage his leg if it wasn't removed.
"It typically affects one in a million people per year," said Sampson, wearing a T-shirt with the words "One in a Million."
"I consider myself to be one of the lucky ones and was able to be helped," he said.
"The first two years is the most important. Once you get past the first two years, the chances of it coming back diminishes," he said.
Today he is back playing soccer and jogging a little and plans to run in the annual Turkey Trot on Thanksgiving Day at Kent State University at Trumbull.
"I can't run like I used to. I have slight limp, but my goal is to run or walk in a two- to five-mile race," he said.
A giant cell tumor typically affects people between ages 20 and 40, and women more often than men.
There is no known cause, Sampson said. Such tumors can develop anywhere in the body where there is a joint, he said.
Sampson said in late fall 2010 at age 39, he was running and playing indoor soccer at the Niles Wellness Center when he noticed that his right leg was buckling.
"At first I let it go, thinking it was all in my head," Sampson said.
In December 2010, the leg was starting to feel painful.
"I was playing soccer and would be running for five to 10 minutes, and my leg felt like it wanted to give out," he said. "I looked at it (his knee) and it started to swell up like a cantaloupe," he said.
At work in Aurora where he is an electronics operator, it was harder to stand.
"I noticed in the morning, I would be fine and then after I had started walking or standing, the pain would get to the point where it was unbearable and there was swelling," he said.
Sampson said he went to a local urgent care center for some X-rays. It was diagnosed as a sprained knee, so he put ice on it and rested.
"I thought everything would be fine," he said.
By April 2011, the pain increased.
"I noticed walking became more difficult. I would look at my leg, and it would just swell up. I knew this was more than a sprained knee," Sampson said.
X-rays at an osteopathic clinic in Youngstown found he either had a giant cell tumor or osteosarcoma, which is bone cancer.
"I was fortunate that it was not cancer or that the tumor had not metastasized into the lungs. If that had happened, it would have been fatal," he said.
He said he was told that 80 percent of the giant cell tumor inside the tibia at the knee joint was treatable.
"Because so many months went by, the tumor went from being four centimeters to eight centimeters and encapsulated the whole inside of the top part of the knee joint. Instead of having bone marrow, I had a tumor in the space near the joint," Sampson said.
"The specialist (at the Crystal Clinic) in Akron told me if I took the wrong step, because of the size of the tumor, my leg could literally shatter," Sampson said.
Surgery in May 2011 involved going directly into the leg bone and cavity, where the tumor was removed and filled in with a bone cement. A small plate and two screws were inserted into the tibia for stability.
"After I came home and began healing and I thought everything was looking good, I was at a soccer game in June and my wife noticed a red blister about the size of a dime which was seeping fluid on my knee, so I went to the urgent care unit," he said.
Sampson said that was cleaned up, but after the next months, he began getting ulcerations and non-healing wounds.
"This went on for eight months," he said.
Tammy Sampson said the ulcers were tunneling into the leg, and she suspected some kind of reaction from the surgery.
In May 2012, Sampson went to see a plastic surgeon because the skin in the shin area had become purplish-blue and had dead tissue.
"I went back to the Crystal Clinic and they told me to help heal this, they would use skin grafts in a muscle flap procedure of wrapping calf muscle around and covering the dead tissue area of the leg. Donor skin from the other leg was used to cover over it," he said.
After that, Sampson received physical therapy, at times painful, to help straighten his leg. The therapist would put Sampson's leg on his shoulder while he was lying on a table to try and straighten the leg.
"After the first surgery, I had a little bit of a curve in my leg at the knee, which they couldn't get to straighten out. The pain at times was unbelievable," Sampson said.
Tammy said Jeff had to learn how to walk again.
"I could not stand on this leg and had to use crutches. I would take baby steps and then more and more steps," Sampson said.
Sampson said his faith in God helped him through the situation, as did Tammy and their daughter, Abby, 11, and their friends at the Woodland United Methodist Church.
In July 2012, Sampson returned to work after having to be off for two months for the first surgery and two months for the second surgery. Three weeks into work he noticed a bulge was developing on his knee directly above the area where the skin grafts were done.
"It was the almost the size of a baseball. It was trickling some fluid and I thought it didn't look good," he said.
The plastic surgeon examined it and thought it might be a reaction to the bone cement or metal. Sampson went to see the surgeon who did his first surgery in 2011.
"I went and saw him, and they did emergency surgery the next day," Sampson said.
This was the third surgery he had.
The surgery, which he underwent in August 2012, drained the infectious material. The doctor also chiseled out bone cement from the first surgery in the leg and put in anti-bacterial cement. It was the most painful of the three surgeries, he said.
"When they went into the bone, it was like a splitting toothache. I had to sleep on a chair for weeks day and night because I couldn't sleep on a bed," he said.
Following that surgery, the family received help from an in-home care nurse who came to the house to check on Sampson.
For months, Sampson did not move much. He said the biggest hurdle was getting through the third round of physical therapy, which included walking and bicycling.
"All these things in combination helped to straighten my leg," he said.
Sampson said he gets checked every six months.
The most challenging part was staying in the house for the past two years, especially in the summer months.
Tammy said, "He wasn't able to do things he wanted to do. There was activities he couldn't attend because he had to stay at home."
Jeff said he felt bad not being able to get to his daughter's school or Girl Scout events.
"She was my nurse and a was a big helper," he said of his daughter.
Sampson said he is also appreciating life more and considers himself to be very blessed.
He said he has read stories online of people who have had giant cell tumors who face paralysis and other serious health issues.
"I feel blessed that I am still here on the earth. I am getting another chance and want to help make a difference. I will never forget when I got that initial diagnosis and that it could be cancer. I was thinking of my wife and daughter," Sampson said.
He said he hopes that others will hear his story and see that someone can overcome obstacles and return to some normalcy.
"They hear what I did and can say, 'What is stopping me?'
"I want people to know that there is hope and that situations do not have to be out of control. There is a possibility of leading a normal life again," Sampson said.


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Here is a list of notable transfers for the 2014 high school football season.
Please send any updates or corrections to Kyle Glaser at email@example.com
^Transfer still under review as of Aug. 29
*Must sit out until Oct. 6
Player, Pos., Yr., Old School -->New School
Isakeli Akau, Jr., OL/DL, Grand Terrace -->Rancho Verde
Bryson Bridges, Sr., OL, Murrieta Mesa -->Chaparral^
Jordan Brumfield, Jr., DB, Rialto --> San Gorgonio*
Chris Byers, Sr., RB, Roosevelt --> Los Osos
Braxton Cheuvront, Sr., OL/DL, Riverside Christian --> Notre Dame
Rayvon Curry, Jr., TE/DE, Rialto -->Citrus Valley
Rual Diaz, Jr., LB, Rialto --> Summit^
Troy Dye, Jr., DB, Centennial --> Norco
Jordan D'Errico, Jr., DB, Norco -->Anaheim Servite
Eric Esquer, Sr., OL, Citrus Valley --> Redlands East Valley
Chuck Filiaga, So., OL/DL, San Diego St. Augustine --> Vista Murrieta
Austin Fisher, Sr., QB, Rancho Christian --> Temecula Valley
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