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Apple won its Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 European ban based on a design sketch filed in 2004
0. phoneArena 12 Aug 2011, 14:06 posted on
Apple is using a broken EU Community Design system, basing its motion on a sketch filed in 2004, six years before Apple's first tablet saw the light of day. As per German law, the court has to grant the injunction if the design has been granted and paid for...
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133. ilia1986 (unregistered)
lol - you really think that people are going to be that dumb to believe that it's really the original Sniggly, you lifeless idiot?
Can't wait for PA staff to ban your stupid ass..
137. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Let's see how it goes indeed. Just reported your above post to PA.
138. SniggIy (banned) (Posts: 34; Member since: 13 Aug 2011)
"phonearena! This dude is copying this other dude! Ban him! Ban him now!!" and you probably sounded twice as stupid as this. And if it makes you feel any better, I reported your nasty comment as well. Race to who gets banned first. Good luck!
141. ilia1986 (unregistered)
For everyone else: The real Sniggly is on post 109 on this thread\page:
146. SniggIy (banned) (Posts: 34; Member since: 13 Aug 2011)
I find it funny you are taking more offense to this than the actual Sniggly, lol. Is there a reason you care so much? Maybe this is Sniggly's third profile?
150. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Maybe they care because I treat them all with the respect they've earned by being nice folks, and they don't like that you're trying to piss on my name just because you don't like the things I have to say.
I still don't really care. I find it perversely amusing. But I'm very humbled and appreciative that they would take time and energy to stand up for me against you.
Despite the ultimate triviality of the situation, you guys are all awesome. My hat's off to you all. :)
163. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
imitation is the greatest form of flattery.
Taco probably has your original profile pic up on his wall.. watch out for the stains though, sniggs.
147. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
I just reported him as well.
152. SniggIy (banned) (Posts: 34; Member since: 13 Aug 2011)
I really would love to see what you people are saying when you report me, lol. You guys must sound like idiots.
154. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Impersonation of another user in order to confuse users, slander the user in question, and disrupt a thread doesn't really sound all that stupid to me.
You're actually lucky I find this amusing, because I'm pretty sure I could get you banned if I wanted to.
157. SniggIy (banned) (Posts: 34; Member since: 13 Aug 2011)
Nah, I'm sure phone arena loves all these comments, lol. Really, I would love if you tried to get me banned. All those things you just listed was a little silly to say the least. You and taco disrupt these threads more than anyone with your cell phone wars.
161. zuno gyakusatsu (Posts: 257; Member since: 16 Mar 2010)
i much prefer the "fake" sniggly to the real one. can we just ban the original one? i can do without his holier than thou attitude all the time.
164. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
real sniggly - intelligent debater
fake sniggly - taco in a sniggs suit being dumber than normal.
I'll take the real sniggs. Lets just ban taco's IP all together and that will keep the boards much quieter.
168. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Damn straight. Regardless of whether you're an Android hater or lover - one gotta admire Sniggly's (the real one's) intelligence and overall tolerance and patience when dealing with utter imbeciles like Taco and Miz..
8. Gsmalltheway (Posts: 174; Member since: 15 Aug 2009)
This is rediculous. Apple came up with a tablet design that was rectangular, so what all other manufactures cant make rectangular tablets?
12. jcoberg10 (Posts: 110; Member since: 30 Oct 2009)
Triangle tablets will be awesome!!!
14. gaylep (Posts: 3; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)
Personally, I'm waiting for someone to come out with the more elegant oval design.
9. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)
Shamsung you got what you deserve.... Apple si setting an example for al copycats... hated or love it.. next time when a customer or client gives you a design.. for you to supply... dont go behind their back and create another product based on what you know.. shame on you Shamsung... now consumers will pay for your atrocity...
19. dandirk (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)
ummm I now declare you banned.
I submitted and paid for a picture of a rooster to be added to Community Design.
The EU will now send NATO to give you what you deserve.
25. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)
well good luck with that... mind if I have grankids while I wait?... jk... dandirk... good response.. made me laugh.actually..
143. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
how old are...it samsung not shamsung...its obviously not a mistake as you said it twice...lol with apple being so secretive i doubt they showed samsung the ipad 2...if they had why would samsung create a ''fat'' tab and then release a thin tab
26. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
wow.. proving to be a bigger iDiot than normal. Apple wasnt having anything manufactured in 2004. They were just drawing designs. Who knows.. that "tablet" could be 5 inches, not the 10 inch one they have now... or it could have been a design for a wider screened iphone. Where is the proof that its even a tablet?
10. Stuntman (Posts: 836; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)
This just in -- Apple is going to file an injunction to prevent manufacturers of chopping boards from selling their product in the EU because they look like these drawings. Word is that they are going after companies that make tupperware containers as well because the lids look like these drawing. Those rectangular tupperware container lids will be banned, but the square ones are OK. You can still buy rectangular tupperware, but they will not come with lids.
11. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
This really is super apple plus ridiculous...
Anybody got that joke... ?
This really is not good at all.
13. gaylep (Posts: 3; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)
Apple : Does not play nicely with others.
16. gaylep (Posts: 3; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)
I think that the iPad looks like a giant icecream sandwich, but less delicious. Icecream sandwich manufacturers everywhere, unite against these copycats.
23. Deluxe (unregistered)
Yes! sue apple for millions and try to ban them from selling ipods. At lest in the usa :D
17. dandirk (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)
The EU laws are insane! Once Apple starts winning with these drawings... its going to escalate where like apple/MS companies are going to enter as many drawings as possible to hopefully block competitors.
While i think, the law is the law and its not Apple's fault they are using it.
This is such a system where its down-right abusive, even more so then the US patent system.
You would think there would be some decency in business where they wouldn't sink to this level.
18. AppleFUD (unregistered)
The original article on OSNews is a great article that everyone should read.
Any apple fan that can still say apple is "defending their IP" with this behavior is clearly delusional. . . this is nothing more than anti-competitive behavior at it's best.
78. box (unregistered)
That is good reading. I like the Knight Ridder tablet example that Samsung gave in the Netherlands trial
20. dandirk (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)
Why would they call it "Community Design"???
They should call it "Me Only Design... EVER!"
21. Deluxe (unregistered)
This is no different than a little kid drawing something and then getting mad at another little kid that copies off the shape of what he has drawn to make something different and demands the other is not to do that. This is childish nonsense from apple and they will not get any money from me if they try to beat the competition with such underhanded and low down tactics as this.
What will i do if dumb lawsuits from apple kills off any real android competition? Easy, i get a windows phone 7 phone, or have a blackberry if i have to in order to have a non apple smartphone.
Apple my htc inspire with gingerbread is better than your iphone 4 imo and it will probably be even better when ice cream sandwich comes along.
28. Penny (Posts: 1648; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
This isn't funny anymore. I hope several large companies work together to get a higher authority to investigate the EU's practices and demand an overhaul of their system and personnel. Maybe that would get the people running the EU up off their asses.
31. Penny (Posts: 1648; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
Also, it's easy to blame this on Apple. Don't. Reprimanding Apple for doing something they were legally able to do won't solve anything. Blame the EU. It is the part of the system that is broken, and as with any mechanical object, you either fix or replace the broken part, but you don't allow it to damage the rest of the system.
144. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
you know what i actually agree we should be blaming the ridiculous eu and this so obvious broken system, whether apple is right or wrong for exploiting? hopefully all this will bring the problems to the front for reform
29. Tmachaveli (Posts: 425; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)
Wow i cant believe what i just read...this has to stop
30. ghost_uwi (Posts: 47; Member since: 05 Nov 2010)
dude I am so going to patent every doodle I do and sue everyone in the future :D
33. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
I'm enjoying watching this play out. Apple is tightening a stranglehold on the mobile industry. Between record sales numbers, expansion in China, ridiculous revenue and now justly using the legal system to block these copycat products Apple will slowly choke the life out of android.
Apple was already handing android it's ass in revenue and profit. Time to put android out of it's misery and go for the headshot (marketshare).
35. jroc74 (Posts: 6006; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
And that would make your life complete, wouldnt it?
iFans are TRULY something special...
41. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
I'll enjoying watching you fandroids in your final death struggles screaming about how android is better and "innovative". I'm sure you'll hop the bandwagon soon to Windows 7 or whatever else comes out. As long as it's not Apple right?
43. rican (Posts: 132; Member since: 02 Jul 2011)
like ive said plenty of times before, is apple giving you anything for you to be so much up their ass, are they giving you money, a job, a leaked iphone 5, steve jobs d**k mold so you can stick it up your ass? i dont understand your devotion to a PHONE!
48. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
How do you explain your devotion to android then loser. Or the fact you follow Apple articles around just to bash them. I'd rather enjoy a product and follow it then to hate a product for no reason and expend energy hating on the product.
52. gwhyte01 (Posts: 44; Member since: 09 Jul 2008)
Before you start calling people names here buddy for someone thats replying to every comment made you seem like a fat looser who needs to go out with your friends and drink a beer or two. Anyway, tell me one thing the iphone and the ipad can do that some other device cant do why you're praising it and calling ppl names. My hd7 when it gets mango will be able to do more than ios 5 and even ios 5 stole most of its features from all other platforms.....i have all major systems at my disposal and right now, only due to a lack of apps on android (which wp7 will take care of soon), android is a better platform and less restricted..you have to jailbreak to do what you really want. Now before you go quoting sales and other **** really think about it.....WHAT CAN THE IPHONE AND IPAD DO THAT OTHER DEVICES CANT DO. Btw HTC was builing smartphones and tablets 13 years before the iphone came out...whats apple's point in suing them??
56. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Mango isn't even out yet. Keep hoping something better will come along though.
59. rican (Posts: 132; Member since: 02 Jul 2011)
thats why he said when his hd7 gets it!
61. gwhyte01 (Posts: 44; Member since: 09 Jul 2008)
actually sorry my hd2 running wp7 mango is off the meanrack and over at xda they hardspl'ed the hd7 and there are custom roms running mango for you to download, but you wouldnt know anything about that, because in your eyes theres only one. wait look what just came across my twitterhttp://www.wpcentral.com/break
ing-official-mango-7720-release-leaked-xda?utm_source=wpc&utm_medium=yea see yea, imma go flash this and go drink couple of beers with my peeps, im out. twitter.
58. rican (Posts: 132; Member since: 02 Jul 2011)
first off i like android because its best suited for me, in the process of learning how to build roms with my linux computer.
secondly you can go through all my comments ive never said anything negative about apple
What im talking about is you defend apple like if they do s**t for you.
145. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
taco you obviously love apple and there products work for YOU...why cant you just be happy that others will like other OS'S such as android,bb,wp7,webos etc dont you want people to have choices and do you really want a world where everything is apple only...i sure dont i like my choices...i have both the iphone 4 and galaxy s2 and i like both devices for different reasons and im only saying this before you call me a fandroid...just cause i have an apple or android product does not mean i need to be a fan of a company...end of the day i doubt they give a toss about us but only care for money...but i have not been blinded by fanboyism to see that whether its apple or samsung or any other company that its ridiculous to get such a generic COMMUNITY patent and sue...what does community actually mean
68. jroc74 (Posts: 6006; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
"you fandroids"..
Yea....iFans are TRULY something special..
I suggest you check my post history....if thats too much for you, I understand...iFans live in a very, very limited bubble.
You know what...I hope there is only one smartphone and tablet. That way I can tell without a doubt who the sheep are.
Never went there before with sheep...might as well stoop to your level.
50. Deluxe (unregistered)
The final death struggles will come from apple if legal systems act as they should and tell apple to shut up and beat android by making a better product.
As long as apple are acting as they are even resorting to childishness like this to try to beat android they will remain a company that makes good products but have such horrendous business ethics people should never buy from them. The millions+ of people that seem to "worship" them is why they are in business.
You beat competition by making a better product for less money or the same amount. Also if one is going to charge more they need to make sure what they have made is so much better than the competition that it is worth a higher price. You DON'T try to win by taking the competitors to court for ridiculous reasons. At lest, this seems like correct competing with others to me.
51. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Acting childish? This is a business not high school. Apple is acting like a business that's protecting their designs and IP.
54. Deluxe (unregistered)
Yeah which is why Apple shouldn't be taking a competitor to court over artwork that was done 6 years before the first ipad came out and asking for their product to be banned. EU shouldn't allow artwork to be patented. They need a legal system renovation so such things can't happen.
Here's for hoping for a samsung victory in the appeal on the 25th. :D
55. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
So that means Apple had the design back in 2004 and then Samsung saw the first iPad and came out with a product that looks just like it. Seems like obvious copying to me.
69. jroc74 (Posts: 6006; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Lets see those sketches hold up in U.S. courts...
73. Deluxe (unregistered)
No they didn't copy the ipad design. It is a different shape and the honeycomb os is very much different. It is just silly for apple to be able to ask for something to be banned because of its shape. I've used demos of both.
Apple however, does copy others and there is no doubt about that (android notifications).
Your clearly so supportive of apple that is doesn't matter what they do your going to support them.
53. gwhyte01 (Posts: 44; Member since: 09 Jul 2008)
They dont have anyting to bring to the table, if they change the iphone they have to change everything else including osx..
94. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Taco, if you havent noticed.. and i know you havent.. even iFans are taking note of apple's behavior. Apple may win short term victories but they are turning all but their most diehard fans against them one by one as they hear about the Apple legal drama.
In the end, apple is helping seal its fate and growing Android. Most people turn from evil controlling dictators when they become obvious. Maybe you have a picture of Gurerra, Chavez, and Mao ZeDong on your walls, but most dont.
136. Pdubb (Posts: 248; Member since: 08 Aug 2011)
They better tread carefully! What happen if there are no other tablets on the market? Would they then be subject to anit-trust? I think it becomes a slippery slope when you start pushing others out of the market. They already have a majority of the market and if it gets bigger I see them being in the same predicament MS was with the EU with IE.
34. jroc74 (Posts: 6006; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Welp.....time for me to get to drawing and submitting all kinds of stuff to the EU...
Didnt some folks on here say sketches are only concepts and dont count...according to the EU they do.
If only folks from years ago woulda thought to submit sketches to the EU waay back when...
If anything...give Apple credit for looking into the future. Now folks are gonna be copying the idea to submit sketches to the EU. I can hear the copycat cries now...
I love America...
37. Jasonhunterx (Posts: 111; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)
I hate how the design of apple products are so generic then they sew for another company making a genric looking phone or tablet


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Bill Hartman, a physical therapist, sports performance coach, and owner of www.yourgolffitnesscoach.com, claims that practicing yoga and Pilates may be one of the biggest mistakes athletes especially golfers could make.
In a recent press release, Hartman writes, Golf demands a high degree of dynamic flexibility performed explosively at very high speeds. Activities like yoga or Pilates dont address these demands and can even be destructive to the function of the muscles and tendons.
In high-speed activities like golf, the tendons function like springs or rubber bands to produce club-head speed, Hartman continues. The slower, more passive flexibility training in yoga and Pilates robs golfers of the elasticity that they need to drive the golf ball to the best of their ability and to conserve energy.
Hartman says he utilizes a series of dynamic stretches and strength training exercises specifically designed to help golfers achieve optimal flexibility and improve their on-course performance.
Hartmans criticism of yoga and Pilates sounds like sour grapes to me. Ive been practicing yoga for three years and have never felt more fit and prepared to play golf. Thanks to yoga, my core (abdomen) is stronger and previously chronic back problems despite a sedentary job in front of a computer have gone away. My balance, strength, flexibility and coordination have all improved with twice-weekly 90-minute yoga sessions. (For more on this, see the Jeffs Journal entry entitled, August 27, 2003 Salubrious.)
By alleging these so-called mind/body exercise regimes (sic) may actually be harmful, Hartman might really be saying that the growth of yoga and Pilates is threatening his business. With over 21 million practitioners, yoga now outpaces golf in popularity in the U.S.
Im sure some of Hartmans golf-specific training programs are fine, and they probably will enhance ones performance on the golf course. But he shouldnt denigrate two worthwhile exercise techniques to sell product. (You wont learn much about Hartmans system on his website, which is more focused on selling fitness books and golf tip manuals than outlining his programs.)
I dont need a so-called expert to bad-mouth my training program and tell me its destructive. My bi-weekly yoga practice is coupled with fast walks on a treadmill and some weight training the other three days of the week. Not overwhelming stuff, but ample and quite do-able.
The results are clear. I feel better, my weights down, am hitting the ball farther than ever, and, at 53, have no problem trudging up and down a hilly 18-hole course carrying a golf bag.
Thanks for the advice, Bill. But I think Ill stick to my routine.
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It's very difficult to find a decent pair of work footwear these days. I've tried many different styles and brands over the years and few, if any, make the cut. Usually the first thing to go is the stitching on the sides at the ball of the foot. Then it cracks and soon there's a hole. Every pair I've owned have had this problem and from there it's an assortment of different aspects of wear, tear, and generally falling apart. This pair of Terra Spiders have held up surprisingly well over the last year. One thing I hate about most shoemakers is that when you find something you like and go back to get another pair, they've discontinued it. Rather than improving on the footwear they have and making them better year after year, they instead focus on making a continuing array of new styles. Good idea for trendy fashion attire, but not for work footwear. When it comes to work, we want reliability, durability, and comfort -- we care not for style.
This is what one year of wear looks like
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These Terra Spider work shoes have lasted me one year; almost exactly one year, from July 30, 2012 to my new pair August 04, 2013. Although, I would have purchased them a few weeks earlier if I had the time.
In the first week of wearing these the stitching under the ankle bone was really hurting me. I cut two small pieces of carpet to put in there to keep it away from my ankle which I finally removed after the the break-in period, which was between 1 to 2 weeks. With my new pair, I'm keeping the laces loose for the break-in period so that the stitching isn't touching my ankle.
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The first thing to wear out were the yellow coverings on the insoles. It really didn't take very long for them to start peeling off at the heel and toe. I became very annoyed at the feeling that there was something in my shoe when it was merely the material folding back, so I just peeled them right off. Surprisingly, it was a much better insole that way. The yellow top layer holds dirt and water and by taking it off the insole became resistant to dirt and water. If any dirt got int here, I'd simply dump it out and put my show back on. Also, I like the non-texture of the plain insole because my socks didn't cling to it but had the freedom to slide around a bit therefore reducing any rubbing between the bottoms of my feet and my socks. I recommend smooth texture-free insoles. I think I will peel the top layer off even before they start to peel on my new pair.
No cracking; stitching in excellent shape
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The reason I purchased these in the first place was because I needed a light flexible safety shoe as I do a variety of tasks in the field of home construction and landscaping, many of which require bending down repeatedly and most safety work footwear is neither light nor flexible at all. I tried many hiking style safety boots and after awhile they become quite flexible, but fall apart easily. These Terra Spiders need no break-in period for flexibility; they are flexible and comfortable and bend easily upon purchase. Look at that, you can hardly tell where the shoe bends as the stitching is still in place and there are no holes or cracks; it really held up well in this regard; I've had other Terra footwear in the past and none have done well in this regard before: peeling, cracking, soles separating from the upper, etc. are all typical of every boot/shoe I've tried (even non-work footwear).
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I also purchased these because I was looking for metal-free footwear. Where I live, it gets cold and wet in the winter for a good many months and I actually got frostbite on my toes due to my steel-toed footwear. Metal-Free footwear is not only much lighter, more flexible, but also much warmer.
Do these have sole puncture protection (someone commented that they actually do -- well that would explain how I stepped on a nail and it didn't go through). In the past I was dubious about metal-free shanks (that prevents nails and such from penetrating through the sole of the shoe, but it says nothing on the Terra website nor the box) as I've used metal shanks in the past and had to give them up due to my Frankenstein Walk and the very poor flexibility, but this new stuff actually works. I've stepped on some nails etc. using shoes with metal-free-shanks and nothing went through. Update: the new pair I bought now states that is has a "metal-free composite plate".
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The first thing of actual significance to actually wear out were the soles. You can see the heel and toe of one shoe has much greater wear than the other. I can explain the large chunk missing from the toe area. It started as a very small piece that was missing due to my stepping on a raised nail-head; when I lifted my food, it popped a little chunk out about the size of 1cm-squared. It seems that this missing initial piece allowed greater wear to occur in that area. Or perhaps I just pivot etc. more on that foot. I think if I didn't lose that initial piece, I could have worn these for another couple months, maybe, but as you can see, similar wear is happening on the other foot and the heel area is almost worn through as well. The soles are very comfortable and flexible and this may by a trade-off when looking at more durable soles. I was surprised to see that the parts of the sole that fold up onto the sides of the upper didn't peel off or anything; especially where the shoe bends at the ball of the foot.
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The toe-kick rubber started peeling off about a month before I got my new pair, but nothing some PL Premium couldn't fix. The year-old ones pretty much look the same as the new ones, minus the dirt.
Overall, a very good shoe. It has a 6 month warranty by Terra, and a 100 day warranty from the store I purchased them at.
Reasons to buy:
- durable
- light
- warm (metal free)
- flexible
- comfortable
Areas of improvement needed:
- smooth insole without stick-on fabric top layer
- Made In Canada
- more durable sole (unless hiders flexibility/comfort)
- animal-product free
I also hate when shoes are marketed as being "Water Resistant" or "Water Proof" when all they do it spray on some water-repellent that washes off in the first rain. Stop that - they're not water resistant or water proof unless they are rubber boots.
It would be nice if companies made shoes that were 'resolable'. I have a great pair of Redwing shoes, and they are 'resolable'. They are made as work shoes, but I use them casually and 9 years later, I'm still using them (and I abuse the hell out of them). I'd love to see that same quality in the Terra shoe, and I'd also love to see the Terra show Made In Canada as I bought that pair of Redwing shoes specifically because they were Made In the U.S.A. (most of their shoes are not made in the U.S.A. now, only a select few). I remember when Terra boots were made in Canada; I wonder if they also have a selection that still are.
Update: Second Pair: Oct. 2014: my second pair of these shoes have lasted longer as I didn't step on a nail-head popping a piece of rubber out of the sole. Although the sole has worn under the large toes on both shoes in the form of crack-shaped holes -- water was seeping in through there (similar to the cracks/holes seen on my right-foot shoe above), but I filled the holes/cracks with PL Premium and that solved that (I also used PL Premium to fill a hole in the bottom of my waterproof boot heel that was letting water in and two winters later, they're still good!! As with my first pair, the yellow fabric coverings on the insoles started to come off almost right away -- this time I just peeled them both off -- they're useless anyway... when they get wet, it takes longer to dry than without them. I should add that if you use these shoes in wet conditions, you should make sure to use waterproofing spray regularly -- otherwise, the shoes take a long time to dry. If I put them in the summer sun, not so long but if there is no sun... then what? I bought a pair of in-shoe/boot dryers -- I got the maxxdry brand, but that's only because I had no choice of other brands. Takes about a day to dry these shoes with said dryers when they're soaked. I imagine that non-leather shoes would dry much more quickly. The laces wore out after about 6 months, so you might as well buy a pair of sturdy tough laces at the same time as buying these shoes.
Still a good pair of shoes -- just bought a third pair Oct. 2014 and probably won't start wearing them for awhile as the old ones are still hanging in there, longer than last year's pair.
2014 October: There is a new Terra shoe/boot called that VENOM that is pretty much the same as the SPIDER, but with a few upgrades:
• TERRA FIRMA-FLEX Metal Free composite toe cap and puncture resistant plate
• Removable shock absorbing PU FOOTBED®
• Heel pull-on loop


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Attack of the Bullies (NERDS #5)by Michael Buckley
The grand finale to the New York Times bestselling series, Attack of the BULLIES stars Ruby Peet, aka Agent Pufferfish, the team captain with super nanobyte-enhanced allergies. Pufferfish leads the team in their latest case: the kidnapping of the president's daughter. But the NERDS discover she hasn't been kidnapped--she's been recruited. Their former librarian, Ms. Holiday, has started a rival organization called BULLIES, who each have their own nanobyte-enhanced upgrades. The BULLIES' plan: go back in time to make sure NERDS never existed! When Ruby's teammates begin to vanish one by one, she enlists Agent Brand and Heathcliff Hodges to go back to the 1970s and help the original nerdy secret agents make sure that the future is not erased from existence! Attack of the BULLIES promises action, humor, and a dramatic conclusion to the series.
The Council of Mirrors (The Sisters Grimm Book #9)by Michael Buckley
In the final volume in the Sisters Grimm series, Sabrina, Daphne, and the rest of the Grimms and their friends must face off against the Master to decide the fate of Ferryport Landing--and the world. When Mirror fails to escape the barrier using Granny Relda's body, he turns to his plan B: killing all the Grimms so that the magical barrier collapses. In the meantime, Sabrina has gathered the other magic mirrors as advisors on how to deal with their mortal enemy. They tell her to join forces with the Scarlet Hand against Mirror, in exchange for offering all the citizens of Ferryport Landing their freedom. This final chapter is the end of the road for several beloved characters, but the conclusion is sure to satisfy devoted fans of the series.
The Everafter War (The Sisters Grimm Book #7)by Michael Buckley
Sabrina and Daphne's prayers are finally answered when their parents finally wake up from their sleeping spell. Their happy reunion is short-lived, as they are caught in the middle of a war and shocking secrets are revealed.
The Fairy-Tale Detectives (The Sisters Grimm Book #1)by Michael Buckley
The Sisters Grimm take readers to a world where fairy tales are fact and not everyone is who they seem! In book one of this bestselling series, sisters Sabrina and Daphne are sent to live with their mysterious grandmother, Relda Grimm. The sisters learn they are descendants of the Brothers Grimm, whose famous book of fairy tales is actually a collection of case files. The girls are the latest in a long line of fairy-tale detectives, and their new hometown is filled with Everafters (as magical folks like to be called)some good and some very, very bad. When a mysterious Everafter sets a giant loose on the town, it's up to the Sisters Grimm to save the day.
Guys Read: Terrifying Talesby R. L. Stine Dav Pilkey Jon Scieszka Adele Griffin Michael Buckley Rita Williams-Garcia Lisa Brown Kelly Barnhill Gris Grimly Adam Gidwitz Claire Legrand Nikki Loftin Daniel Jose Older
Be afraid, be very afraid of Terrifying Tales, the sixth volume in the Guys Read Library of Great Reading. Eleven masters of suspense--Kelly Barnhill, Michael Buckley, Adam Gidwitz, Adele Griffin and Lisa Brown, Claire Legrand, Nikki Loftin, Daniel José Older, Dav Pilkey, R.L. Stine, and Rita Williams-Garcia--have come together to bring you a bone-chilling collection of original ghost stories with illustrations by Gris Grimly, perfect for sharing around the campfire, reading under the covers with a flashlight, and scaring your friends' pants off. Compiled and edited by kid-lit madman Jon Scieszka, Guys Read: Terrifying Tales is a creepy-fun read (if you're brave enough, that is).
Magic and Other Misdemeanors (The Sisters Grimm Book #5)by Michael Buckley
Daphne, Sabrina, and Puck's most magic-filled mystery The latest addition to the New York Times bestselling series, which Kirkus Reviews calls "memorable and madcap" In book five of the series, Sabrina and Daphne Grimm are ready to tackle their own case: Who is stealing the magical possessions of the most powerful Everafters in town? With Granny distracted by Mayor Heart's campaign against human residents, the girl detectives are on their own. Puss in Boots (now an exterminator), Cinderella (a radio relationship counselor), Sleeping Beauty (owner of a coffee shop), and their old enemy, Prince Charming, are among the many suspects, and one thing is for certain: The villain's plans mean a grim future for the Grimms--truly!
Meltdown in Tibetby Michael Buckley
Tibetans have experienced waves of genocide since the 1950s. Now they are facing ecocide. The Himalayan snowcaps are in meltdown mode, due to climate change--accelerated by a rain of black soot from massive burning of coal and other fuels in both China and India. The mighty rivers of Tibet are being dammed by Chinese engineering consortiums to feed the mainland's thirst for power, and the land is being relentlessly mined in search of minerals to feed China's industrial complex. On the drawing board are plans for a massive engineering project to divert water from Eastern Tibet to water-starved Northern China. Ruthless Chinese repression leaves Tibetans powerless to stop the reckless destruction of their sacred land, but they are not the only victims of this campaign: the nations downstream from Tibet rely heavily on rivers sourced in Tibet for water supply, and for rich silt used in agriculture. This destruction of the region's environment has been happening with little scrutiny until now. In Meltdown in Tibet, Michael Buckley turns the spotlight on the darkest side of China's emergence as a global super power.
NERDS: The Cheerleaders of Doom (Nerds Book Three)by Michael Buckley
Matilda "Wheezer" Choi, the asthmatic who can fly and kick butt courtesy of her nanobyte-enhanced inhalers, loves pro wrestling and hates anything "girlie. " Maybe that's because she grew up with six brothers--or maybe it's because her home life has become a battle zone in the conflict between her parents. Unfortunately for Wheezer, when a former member of NERDS turned villain gets extensive plastic surgery in order to become a cheerleader, Matilda must swallow her pride to successfully infiltrate the squad. The newest supervillain, Gerdie Baker, assisted by the criminal mastermind Simon, has created a device that opens portals to other worlds, which she and the other cheerleaders have been pillaging. But the alternate realities are starting to get awfully close together, so it's up to Wheezer and the NERDS to stop the cheerleaders before the worlds collide.
NERDS: M Is for Mama's Boy (Nerds Book Two)by Michael Buckley
NERDS combines all the excitement of international espionage with all the awkwardness of elementary school, and the results are hilarious. A group of unpopular fifth graders run a spy network from inside their school.
NERDS: National Espionage, Rescue, and Defense Society (Nerds Book One)by Michael Buckley
NERDS combines all the excitement of international espionage with all the awkwardness of elementary school, and the results are hilarious. A group of unpopular fifth graders run a spy network from inside their school. With the help of cutting-edge science, they transform their nerdy qualities into incredible abilities! Their enemies? An array of James Bond-style villains, each with an evil plan more diabolical and more ridiculous than the last.
Once upon a Crime (The Sisters Grimm Book #4)by Michael Buckley
The Grimms take Manhattan in the fourth book in the New York Times bestselling series! When fairy-tale detectives Sabrina and Daphne Grimm venture back to the big city to help a friend, they land in the middle of a big mystery. Puck's father, King Oberon, has been murdered, and the Grimms suspect one of the many famous (and infamous) fairy-tale folk who call the city home. Can they find the culprit while coming to terms with their mother's secret life? And will Sabrina ever accept her family's destiny? Funny and fast-paced, this series puts a fresh spin on girl-detective stories and has won an ever-expanding number of fans.
The Problem Child (The Sisters Grimm Book #3)by Michael Buckley
A third installment in this much-talked-about new series of mysteries set in a modern-day fairy-tale community The sisters Grimm, intrepid detectives of fairy-tale crime, come face to face with their parents' kidnappers, the mysterious organization of Everafters who call themselves The Scarlet Hand. One of them turns out to be the world's most famous fairy-tale character and the other an unstoppable killing-machine known as the Jabberwocky. Without Mr. Canis (aka The Big Bad Wolf) fighting at their side, the girls have little hope that they'll be reunited with their mother and father. That is until their long-lost Uncle Jake returns home with stories of a weapon, now destroyed, that can kill the Jabberwocky. The girls must find the pieces so the deadly blade can be reforged, and in the process butt heads with some of the most powerful Everafters in Ferryport Landing. Will the sisters Grimm save the day?
Raging Seaby Michael Buckley
In the first book of Michael Buckley's Undertow trilogy, the Alpha arrived and the world was never the same. At the start of the second book, most of south Brooklyn is in ruins and the nation is terrified. Nearly everyone that Lyric Walker loves is either missing or presumed dead, including the mesmerizing prince Fathom. It's up to Lyric to unite the Alpha before the second wave of a cataclysmic invasion wipes out mankind for good. The Undertow trilogy is an unforgettable reading experience that author E. Lockhart calls, "Allegorical and romantic, the book nevertheless reads like an action movie with especially awesome CGI."
The Sisters Grimm: A Very Grimm Guideby Michael Buckley
Featuring chapters on heroes, villains, the magical treasury, and much more, this artfully designed guide supplements and enhances the beloved series.
The Sisters Grimm: The Inside Story (The Sisters Grimm Book #8)by Michael Buckley Peter Ferguson
After the shocking ending of The Everafter War, this book picks up with Sabrina, Daphne, and Puck stuck in the Book of Everafter, where all the fairy tales are stored and enchanted characters can change their destinies. The girls (and Puck) must chase the Master through a series of stories, where they're willing to change what they need in order to save their baby brother. Soon, however, they are confronted by the Editor--the book's guardian--who, along with an army of tiny monsters known as Revisers, threatens the children with dire consequences if they don't stick to the stories. As they chase their quarry and dodge the Revisers, they meet Alice, Mowgli, Jack the Giant Killer, Hansel and Gretel, the Headless Horseman, and more. But will they find their brother in time? F&P level: U
Tales from the Hood (The Sisters Grimm Book #6)by Michael Buckley
More in the New York Times bestselling series! The Grimms defend Mr. Canis in Ferryport Landing's trial of the century! This book sees Mr. Canis, dear friend and protector of the Grimm family, put on trial for past crimes. Considering that he's really the Big Bad Wolf, he has a lot to answer for. Is there any truth to the story told by Little Red Riding Hood? What's the deal with all that huffing and puffing? Will Mr. Canis be forced to answer for his crimes? A kangaroo court of Everafters, led by Judge Mad Hatter, is determined to find Canis guilty and force the Grimms out of Ferryport Landing. Meanwhile, Puck has decided to focus more on his mischievous ways, making a few new troublemaker friends. So it's up to Sabrina and Daphne to find evidence to save Canis--and their investigation may reveal more than they hoped. Readers have embraced the first five books in the series, and this gripping courtroom drama won't disappoint.
Undertowby Michael Buckley
First, we feared them. Then we fought them. Now they might be our only hope. Sixteen-year-old Lyric Walker's life is forever changed when she witnesses the arrival of 30,000 Alpha, a five-nation race of ocean-dwelling warriors, on her beach in Coney Island. The world's initial wonder and awe over the Alpha quickly turns ugly and paranoid and violent, and Lyric's small town transforms into a military zone with humans on one side and Alpha on the other. When Lyric is recruited to help the crown prince, a boy named Fathom, assimilate, she begins to fall for him. But their love is a dangerous one, and there are forces on both sides working to keep them apart. Only, what if the Alpha are not actually the enemy? What if they are in fact humanity's best chance for survival? Because the real enemy is coming. And it's more terrifying than anything the world has ever seen. Action, suspense, and romance whirlpool dangerously in this cinematic saga!
The Unusual Suspects (The Sisters Grimm Book #2)by Michael Buckley
With the winning combination of "Nancy Drew" meets "Shrek," this next book in the new "Sisters Grimm" series will entertain fans with the same hilarious mix of mysteries with fairy tale twists plus some new, outrageous adventures. In the tradition of "Lemony Snicket's Series of Unfortunate Events" and "The Spiderwick Chronicles" comes a new humorous mystery of fantastic circumstances. When orphaned sisters, Sabrina and Daphne, are sent to live with their mysterious grandmother, Relda Grimm, who lives in a strange town in New York state, known for its extraordinary number of unexplained and unusual crimes, they begin to unravel a mystery that leads to their ancestors' magical beginnings. Sabrina and Daphne find out they are descendants of the Brothers Grimm, who were actually detectives of the magical phenomenon perpetrated by the Everafters, a parallel race of magical beings. They soon learn it is the Grimm family's legacy to keep the Everafters in line and the two sisters are the sole heirs to this challenge! In the "Sisters Grimm Book Two: The Unusual Suspects," the girls start school with Snow White as their teacher and soon discover a plot pitting mortal children against immortal parents--they must do everything they can to stop it! In a new breed of mystery that entails excitement, adventure and imagination, "The Grimm Sisters Book Two: The Unusual Suspects" injects the legends of fairytale with modern day sensibilities and suspense, creating an irresistible combination young readers will love!
The Villain Virus (NERDS, Book 4)by Michael Buckley
The NERDS series combines the excitement of international espionage with the awkwardness of elementary school as it follows the adventures of a group of unpopular fifth graders who run a spy network from inside their school. With the help of cutting-edge science, they transform their nerdy qualities into incredible abilities, and the results are awesome, inspiring--and hilarious. A virus has infected Arlington, Virginia, home of NERDS headquarters, and it's much worse than your run-of-the-mill flu. Instead of coughing and sneezing, the victims of this voracious virus are transformed into superintelligent criminal masterminds. Soon nearly everyone--including some of the NERDS team--is plotting to take over the world. And who's to blame for this nasty infection? None other than former NERDS teammate Heathcliff Hodges. With more people breaking out into evil cackles every day, it's up to Flinch, the hyperactive superspy with a sweet tooth, to stop the virus. He needs to destroy the virus at its source, and to do that he's going to have to get inside Heathcliff's head--literally. Flinch will have to miniaturize himself and take a fantastic voyage through the supervillain's body to fight white blood cells, stomach acid, and a nest of nasty nanobytes in the hope that he can save the world from . . . the Villain Virus.
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Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow for DSOn: DS
Recently announced DS incarnation of Konami's Vampire platforming series
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'Presentation of a Cradle by the City of Paris to Emperor Napoleon III and the Empress Eugénie'
Medal (reverse view)
Pierre-Jules Cavelier (1814-94) and André-Vauthier Galle (1818-99)
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This medal commemorates the occasion when the City of Paris presented a cradle to Emperor Napoleon III and the Empress Eugénie following the birth of their only son, the Prince Imperial. This side of the medal shows the child sleeping in the cradle on pillows supported by a Napoleonic eagle.


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They should have just hugged it out in the shower ;-)
It should be ok to kick someone's ass who assaults you like that. It was in the past. Without the ability to threaten someone with an ass kicking, society will fall apart as every action of protest is protected by law no matter how much it offends the target. The guy had it coming plain and simple. I hoped he looked worse. The protesters would start thinking twice if this happened more often and act more civilized. They act like animals instead. Look what happened to the white girls in Charlotte yesterday. We've had enough.
So, after the initial assault, the assailant retreated. Then the mayor pursued the retreating assailant, tackled him and punched him several times causing serious injury. Someone tell me why this isn't assault and battery by the mayor as well.
The assailant retreated. The mayor was in no further danger. Only the mayor's pride was hurt. Sounds like we have two different offenses.
Let's compare this to deadly assault. Someone shoots at you but causes no injury. Then they run away. If you pursue that assailant and shoot them causing injury or death, then you can be criminally charged with attempted murder or 2nd degree murder dependent on the injury.
Just saying.
The mayor should have given this protester room to protest. Where's the safe space?
To the activists that say the gov over reacted...you lay a hand in a manner of any public official...the police will slam you to the floor in a manner that you would never think possible. Now if the gov, who's testosterone probably was running a tad to high..felt he was assaulted and by the way threatened...he did the right thing...this was not street justice... This was and always will be an act to defend yourself against a activist who thinks he's got rights..... LOL. To look like wants an acting job on the walking dead....I'm sure this fool will have a small part of the community behind him...btw many steps behind him.... Purple Heart club award...wear it proud fool
Progs eating progs.
Another example of black privilege. Do you think he was be applauded if the races were reversed??? He would be charged too and have to resign as mayor, but if you are black you can assault white people without consequences.all the news outlet would be running the headline, "White racist mayor brutally assaults protester.".
Was the guy mad Kevin never paid the underage girl in Phoenix that he was "taking showers" with?
Good job KJ...I love it.
Good job KJ...love it
It's a physical attack, could have been acid, lye, razor blade laced, boiling hot etc. You don't touch other people, period. First of all it scares the daylights out of em, second, you never know the reaction of the attacked. Someone runs at you with an unknown object in his hand, you could easily be in fear for you life, (that is all you need to shoot the attacker)
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Bloody good show, Gov.
Sounds like he overdid it. The pie thrower posed no threat when the mayor attacked him. It looks like his civil rights were violated by the public official.
The protester got exactly what he wanted.
15 minutes of fame, street-cred among his unwashed, homeless 'occupy' buddies, publicly attacked by a millionaire elected official in front of many witnesses and probably cameras too...... and a great big imminent payday in the form of a fat settlement for the assault.
Granted he assaulted the Mayor first but that attack could be argued to have been in jest, street comedy, or even political protest. It's a minor offense as Johnson was not hurt by it. He was merely shocked and humiliated. There's no way Johnson can argue that he thought his life or person was in danger as the punk immediately ran off.
Johnson then accelerated the situation into a severe, very public, and reportedly bloody beating.
This protester is going to immediately lawyer-up. His free Obama-phone is probably being blown up by lawyers right now begging to represent him. The minor and comical charges against him (pie in the face) will be dropped and he will sue Johnson, the police dept. and the city for millions. He'll settle for about $100k for each blow to his face that your primitive mayor delivered.
Your mayor is an unintelligent idiot and a violent street thug......hiding behind the civility and veneer of a business suit and tie.
Sacramento......you are about to get what you deserve for electing a street thug.
This should happen more often, for every action there should be a reaction! To not react to this miserable mopes assault would be sad, weak and unreadable on the part of the mayor or any human being with any sense of survival. Well done mayor, well done!
Trying to justify the protestor's actions.....pathetic. He was looking for violence....walking away is just more seeking a violent response...Good for the Mayor. My only other thought is if the Mayor had been white and the protestor Black, what would the media's response have been, or what would the mayor's response have been. I think he would have feared media backlash. After all, SacBee's Marcos Breton usually comes down on the liberal side, like BLM and Kaepernick.
Move on! Nothing to see here!
Here's a bit of life advice. If you want to stage your idiotic protest it is best to NOT hit someone who is 6'6" tall, goes around 250 and made a living for years throwing guys just as big as he is around.
This moron gets my vote for stupidest protester of the year. Maybe of the decade.


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THAI boss denies he's leaving
Thai Airways International president Piyasvasti Amranand is annoyed about the rumour that he is on the way out of the national carrier.
"This is nonsense. I wonder why some still believe in this rumour," he said in a recent interview.
"This is groundless and there is no reason for a change, as THAI operations are on the right track."
He denied signing or submitting a letter of resignation or coming under external pressure to leave his job.
In late 2009, Piyasvasti became the first THAI president to work under an employment contract. Should he resign before his term ends next year, he is liable to penalties of six months of salary, which is now about Bt1 million. He is also entitled to six months of compensation if the contract is terminated by any other party.
Unlike many predecessors, he has won strong support from shareholders and the general public, after his efforts to reintroduce transparency in the image-tainted organisation. Under his guidance, the airline has trimmed non-fuel expenses, which helped cushion it from turbulence both domestic and international.
This year, the airline is on course to achieve its net-profit target of Bt6 billion, he said.
New aircraft with better-designed seating capacity and entertainment systems as well as the new business plan focused more on Asian destinations are contributing to higher revenue.
First-quarter revenue has met the government's expectations. The cabin factor as of April 20 had nearly hit 80 per cent.
This year, while jet-fuel prices exceed last year's level, THAI stands to gain from hedging about 80 per cent of its purchases.
Thanks to contracts, THAI has earned foreign-exchange income of Bt350 million to Bt400 million a month.
"If things go as planned throughout this year, we could witness a gain of more than Bt4 billion, and that would push up our financial results," he said.
For now, Piyasvasti isn't paying any attention to speculation over his job security.
"There are so many things to deal with. I'd rather focus on my work," he said.
One of them is the annual shareholders' meeting scheduled for today.
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A 2,000-year-old copy of the Ten Commandments goes on display for the first time in New York Friday as part of the 10-day "Discovery Times Square" exposition.
The ancient parchment, on loan from Israel, is one of the Dead Sea scrolls discovered in a cave in Qumran in 1952. Exhibit curator Risa Levitt Kohn says the rare treasure is in amazingly good condition.
"There really only are two ancient copies of this famous text of the Ten Commandments that everybody knows from the Hebrew Bible," Kohn said. "And this is the only copy on parchment that we've discovered and it's the oldest copy on parchment, especially among the Dead Sea Scrolls."
"So it's really kind of an exceptional text both because of its contents, its age and the fact that it's in amazingly good condition," he added. The scroll is thought to have been used as a prayer leaflet. Also on display are about 900 other scrolls discovered in the Dead Sea caves.
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"Workshop" is an unduly modest term for the broad international organization that JAWS has become, but it does still capture the spirit of common interest and collegiality that marks our exchanges and gatherings. We hope to continue this spirit in what will be the first-ever meeting of JAWS in the United States. We thus want to extend a special welcome to US-based Japan anthropologists, and we hope it is an opportunity to draw more American-based scholars to the JAWS association.
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i need help with some questions in c++
Could you please help me with this home work , since i'm not sure from my sol. , the last question i know it , but number 3 and 2 i didn't understand them .
2. Write a program that create an array Divisors[N] with the following values. Divisors[0]=0 and Divisors[i] is the number of divisors of number i. Use this array to print the number of divisors for all even numbers less than or equal to 20.
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3. Combinatorial numbers C(n,k) can be defined in a recursive form as
C(n,k)=C(n-1,k) + C(n-1,k-1); for n>k>0
C(n,n)=C(n,0)=1; for n>=0.
Write a program, that create an array Comb[M][M] where Comb[i][j]=C(i,j) for i≥j and 0 otherwise, and M=10. After creating this array your program should find and print the sum of values Comb[i][j] for each row i.
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4. Write a function that for each column in a 2-dimensional array Arr2D[M][N] finds the average value, and then stores these values in array AvrCol[N]. Design the function and write a short driver program to test it.
thank you :)
Re: i need help with some questions in c++
3. Looks like all values will be positive, so create an int array Comb initialised to -1 in every element.
Then you need 2 nested for loops for i and j each from 0 to M-1 inclusive.
You can calculate Comb[i][j] as shown; Comb[i][j] = Comb[i-1][j] + Comb[i-1][j-1] if i and j are both greater than zero. This should be a recursive function.
If Comb[i-1][j] and/or Comb[i-1][j-1] are -1, i.e. uninitialised, then calculate those values (by recursing again) and set the array accordingly, and if not then just pull the values out of the array. Essentially the array is an optimisation; you can calculate all values without using the array, but it's quicker if you have intermediate values stored (although for just 100 numbers it'll actually be quicker NOT to optimise, but this won't scale to 1000s of values).
The recursive function will first need to check if i or j is 0, and if i==j, and if i<j according to the problem description as the behavior differs in these cases (i.e. the value is NOT Comb[i-1][j] + Comb[i-1][j-1]). Just handle each of these concepts one by one and it will become clear.
2 is also pretty easy. Start with a program that just calculates and counts the divisors of a number. If you don't know what a divisor is then Google it and look for a Wikipedia article on it. Once you can calculate the number of divisors of any number, it's then trivial to loop for i=0..20, Divisors[i]=(number of divisors of i).
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At a recent party to kick off 50 Cent's new line of Reebok sneakers, the notoriously security-conscious rapper wasn't wearing his usual bulletproof vest. Instead, the entire block around the New York City hotspot Capitale, where the launch for the 50 Cent G6 sneaker was held, was blocked off and guarded by a battalion of police officers and private security people. When asked whom he wanted to buy the sneakers, the rapper, wearing a diamond necklace with a giant cross, answered, "Everyone that has feet." Later he further showed off his business sense when he picked out a 50 Cent necklace a woman was wearing and told her, "Let's sell that for a dollar and we can make a profit."
Now that the new FOX drama Skin has been canceled after three episodes, star Olivia Wilde can concentrate on her duties as a real-life Italian princess. It seems Wilde (real name: Cockburn) married L.A. filmmaker Tao Ruspoli – the second son of Alessandro "Dado" Ruspoli, 9th Prince of Cerveteri – in a yellow school bus in Venice Beach last January. "Then we got married again in Virginia and in Rome and in Spain," the actress reveals. "I have been married four times and I am only 19. So I feel like I have really accomplished something." The happy couple recently purchased a home in Los Angeles but plan to spend a lot of time visiting the family castle in Rome. "There is, like, a moat and a drawbridge, so I can feel like I am living out my childhood fantasy of skipping through the garden like a princess," she says. "Now I just have to learn Italian."
Oct. 31 marked the 10th anniversary of actor River Phoenix's death from a drug overdose near the entrance of Johnny Depp's West Hollywood nightclub, The Viper Room. The date was not overlooked by pal Christian Slater, who ended up taking over the Stand By Me star's pivotal role in Interview with a Vampire. "That was certainly a very sad, horrible moment," Slater told us. "I'm amazed that it's been 10 years. It doesn't seem like he's been gone that long. I remember his mother said, 'He may be gone in this world, but he's still out there in probably a bigger way.' I liked that. It's a very spiritual way to look at it. If he were alive today, he'd probably be directing, producing and doing all the best work."
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Are you in Bangkok? There are quite a few used book stores around. I like the one at the end of Khao San Rd across the street.
If you want new ones, the Kinokuniya Books in Siam Paragon is huge!
I just received some very bad news from the USA. My bookseller friend, who sends me a three parcels of magazines and books every few months, tells me that "book rate" and all international surface mail is finished.
He used to be able to send me three boxes (in an "M-bag") for around $40 and, now, ONE parcel is nearly $100. I love to read and, for me, this is a tragedy. In my many years as an expat, I have not pined for certain foods, or clothing, or toiletries (though my friend did toss vitamins into the boxes sometimes) but I HAD to have my books. Many may think me spoiled or fail to understand how important my books were to me, but, well, this was my single self-indulgence as an expat.
Does ANYONE have ANY idea as to alternative ways of getting books here? My friend checked UPS and it was even more expensive. Might a shipping company--a boat, as in what used to be called 'sea mail'--be a possibility? How about airlines? Freighters?
ANY ideas will be most gratefully received. Things aren't going so well for me now (Immigration AND health problems) and THIS....this just feels like that straw on the camel's back...
"Book rate" was one of the few decent, civilized things left in the US....
Are you in Bangkok? There are quite a few used book stores around. I like the one at the end of Khao San Rd across the street.
If you want new ones, the Kinokuniya Books in Siam Paragon is huge!
download them and print them out.
all the big torrent sites have loads of books
We've already been down this road before:
There are no alternatives for international surface mail, you're stuck paying several times as much with Global Priority or Global Express. Economy M-bags have gone away but are replaced with airmail M-Bags.
According to the USPS:
Yeah right, three to four times the price is economical. Sometimes price is more important than speed, but those rat raced Americans just can't see that. What is fckuing wrong with the US this time????What international products are eliminated at retail locations?
The product simplification eliminates Economy (surface) products offered at retail locations including economy Parcel Post, economy Letter Post, Publishers' Periodicals, Books and Sheet Music, and economy M-Bags . All of these services will have comparable airmail alternatives that provide faster delivery times at economical prices. In addition, Aerogrammes and Recorded Delivery service will be eliminated.
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I think USPS is just plain losing money thanks to the weaker US$. Book rate in Canada has been eliminated decades ago.
You beat me too it Whitey, that was a good rant you had!!!
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A good thread that went oh so bad.
Interesting responses all. WHITEY's rant has nothing on what my friends have been enduring all day today. I felt that "book rate" was one of the few--if not the only--good things about the US. There was something "civilized," decent about that. I will check that link, WHITEY, and thanks for the information from the USPS....god DAMN them.
But time to move beyond rage and rant, or at least the rants...I'll keep the rage for a while... ZEHNER, am interested in the possibility of downloading and printing..if you know any good sites, would be happy to hear about them.
NATALIE8...I've found some gems over on Khao San, yes. There's an excellent used bookshop over here on Sukhumvit a bit beyond Soi 26 (where that angry rich kid ran down the bus passengers cause he had a beef with the driver)..it's called "Dasa" and it has much better stuff than the "beach reading" left behind by vavationers on Khao San Road...and reasonable prices, too.
But I STILL want to find a way to BEAT the greedy vulgarians at the USPS... Anyone ever use international freight shipping. ..a box sent on a boat? Would that be reasonably priced or over the top same as UPS? Any Americans found some creative way around this horror?
Any ideas appreciated. Thanks for your responses thus far.
I just checked USPS and it seems like you can send up to 20 pounds with Priority Mail® Flat Rate Box for $37.00 (35.15 if you pay online).
I think that's a pretty good price considering that in Canada it would cost me more to ship from Montreal to Vancouver and delivery time would probably be longer.
The flat rate box is small. Very small, something like 8 x 11 x 5 inches, you'd be hard pressed to put a share of shoes in the box.
I assume Library Rate will still be around? Maybe you can make a deal with a library so your friend can ship the books to you there, thus qualifying for Library Rate?
This really sucks...
I'm tired of looking at the TV news,
I'm tired of driving hard and being used,
I tell you, baby, I've got nothing to lose,
You know my plane is due....
Aziz, I find your avatar very disturbing.
I am sorry if my avatar "disturbs" someone. I like it. My choice and it meets the guidelines for avatars here.
I hope you will be able to work through your feelings.


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db.ConnectionString = "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;Data Source=C:\ExcelFile.xls;Extended Properties=""Excel 8.0;HDR=Yes;IMEX=0"""
I'm running this query to delete all the records from table [Mytable$] :
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The Dalai Lama will give the keynote address and contribute to a three-day summit on spirituality and the environment, co-sponsored by the University of Portland. Two Thursday events are open to the public and as of today, Tuesday, there are a few tickets left for the morning event: an interfaith dialogue involving Christian, Jewish, Muslim and Native American leaders and the Dalai Lama from 9:30 a.m. to 11:30 a.m. in Chiles Center on the UP campus. Tickets are available, at a range of prices, from Ticketmaster.com, by phone at 503-943-7525 or in person at the Chiles Center box office, 11 a.m. to 5 p.m., Monday through Friday.
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I'm heading back to the US for the largest West Coast genealogy conference - and the largest number ever of participating genealogy bloggers (70) – at the Southern California Genealogical Society Jamboree 2011.
I just finished a short visit home after a long trip covering the East Coast. Here are some highlights of that trip.
At the end of March, I ran the MyHeritage.com booth at the Ohio Genealogical Society regional conference in Columbus. I reunited with old friends and colleagues, met new friends and also gave some lectures for local genealogy groups in Dayton and Cleveland.
The New England Regional Conference - in Springfield, Massachusetts – was next. I tried to find the Simpson family, but it seems it was the wrong Springfield. There were some very interesting lectures and the opportunity to work on my personal research with a lecture about genealogy repositories in Romania and Ukraine. A later conversation with the speakers discovered some previously unknown resources.
New York and New Jersey were next on my itinerary, where I meet with my family who came to visit for two-weeks. There were also a few lectures for the New York Jewish Genealogical Society, the New York chapter of the Association of Professional Genealogist (APG), the Bernards Township Library (New Jersey), the New York Genealogy PC Users' Group and other local genealogy groups.
While "on vacation," I was invited to participate at the NARA Genealogy Fair in Washington DC. So I put my family into the car and drove three hours south. A two-day event at the biggest US repository: the Library of Congress and the National Archives; and included a meeting with head archivist David Ferriero. In the meantime, my children had a great time walking around the mall, visiting the Smithsonian Institute's Natural History and Air and Space wings with my wife.
There were a few more lectures - Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; New Jersey and New York – and then I returned to Washington DC for an International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies (IAJGS) board meeting in preparation for the 31st IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy, set for August 14-19, and a meeting at the US Memorial Holocaust Museum, where I conducted some personal research and found interesting data. It is great to be able to mix work with pleasure.
From Washington, I went a bit further south to Charleston, South Carolina, where MyHeritage.com had a booth at the National Genealogical Society (NGS) conference. There was enough time for a city tour by horse-drawn carriage. It was very impressive for this non-American to experience a living town that seemed to come out from the famous movie, "Gone with the Wind."
It was an excellent trip, providing opportunities to meet new and interesting friends and see old friends once again, while also speaking at various places.
After a quick trip home to kiss my wife and children for two weeks, I'm once again heading west to do what I enjoy the most – work!
MyHeritage will have a booth at the Southern California Genealogical Jamboree. Both US genealogy advisor Schelly Talalay Dardashti and I will be staffing the booth and also presenting several lectures at this event, so if you are attending the conference, please stop by and say hello.
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This interview convinced me.
I've noticed that everyone here is very pro-sunshine. I love it too. Since going primal I've never burnt but I am quite brown. I don't spend hours on end in the sun, a bit of gardening and maybe a walk each day.
I also let my baby play naked in the sunshine. Not at midday or anything extreme. She's never so much as been pink. But we live in Queensland, skin cancer capital of the world. The govt tells me 2/3 children who grow up in Australia will get skin cancer. Now the baby is going brown from her small daily sun exposure and people are starting to comment. Not in a positive she looks healthy way, but in an oh my god you're killing your baby with sunshine way.
My older daughter has very pale skin. She spends as much time in the sun as her sister but still her skin is translucent. She also never gets pink.
So part of me thinks the lack of sunburn means it's ok. But another part of me worries that I'm setting them up for skin cancer, slowly killing them. Mother guilt at it's finest!
FWIW I grew up in PNG and Australia and have never had any suspicious moles. But I let myself get horribly burnt as a teenager a few times so who knows what the future will bring. My sister has had a lot cut out but she is red haired, green eyed and freckly. If she thinks about the sun she burns.
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Wow thanks! That's a great interview, I think I'll get the book.
My sister who has spent her life avoiding the sun has recently been diagnosed with MS. This is the second time now I have heard about the correlation.
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I am a freckled pasty white guy and since starting D3 supplements find it impossible to get a sunburn. I spent more time in the sun this year than at any time since I was a teenager and maybe got a little red (w/o sunblock mind you) but nothing that didn't dissipate the next day. I landed up w/ a nice tan.
That said, I've been to OZ and dear God the sun is strong down under. I burned the inside of my mouth below my lips from hard breathing on a 10 day bike trip in Tazzy. When snorkeling on the reef up north I wore a t-shirt, and back then I had some hair on top as well I don't know if it's the ozone hole or what but it is different.
Wheat is the new tobacco. Spread the word.
Even my totally conventional doctor doesn't get too concerned. I mean, he gives all the warnings about using sunscreen and all that, but being a red-head, he's had to freeze tons of pre-cancerous lesions off his own forehead, and as he freezes them off my face every year, he tells me not to worry about it. They almost never turn into real cancer. It's about the only thing in CW that he doesn't get all bat-shite crazy over.
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some of us scandanavian pale people can handle more sun w/adequate Vitamin D intake, BUT.....the fact that some is good for you doesn't mean more is better.
Coconut oil has some health benefits, but if you ate a jar in one sitting, or even multiple tablespoons, you would NOT feel healthy.
Figure out your indvidual tolerance, and stay within that. However our ancestors lived, tens of thousands of years ago matters very little to someone living with super fair skin today, in Australia. Protect yourself when you've had enough....put on clothes and a hat, or, barring that, some mineral sunscreen, or go inside. More is NOT better.
Keep in mind that there are other rich sources of Vitamin D that our ancestors used: a wealth of cold water fish, etc.
So you're telling me that 66.6% of australians are going to have skin cancer? That has got to be the biggest load of bull shit ever to be dumped onto a computer screen.
If the sun was half as lethal as everyone says then we wouldn't be alive today.
In all of the universe there is only one person with your exact charateristics. Just like there is only one person with everybody else's characteristics. Effectively, your uniqueness makes you pretty average.
I'm a fair-skinned, blue-eyed blonde with German, Irish and French genes. Yeah, I'm pale. But I spend hours and hours out in the sun, literally from sunrise (6am) to at least noon, and I haven't used sunscreen in at least 2 years. The only time I've gotten a sunburn in that time was when I went on vacation and wore a bikini. I generally don't go flashing my belly at work or I'll get fired, so it was white as snow and got a light sunburn.
Being out in the sun and tanning is not the issue. Getting burned is, so you do have to work up to it if you're starting from pasty white. I never understood how my outdoorsy dad, the one that never wore sunscreen, never got skin cancer while my constantly indoors mom did. Twice. Now I get it.
ETA: In my avatar, I actually used medical-type makeup (like to cover scars, port wine stains and tattoos) to cover the farmer tan that makes a dark V right below my neck. I'm that pale naturally and I get that dark.
Ivy Blue - I think being closer to the equator we get closer to the sun. It makes it more intense.
Fitmom - I definitely wasn't trying to say that more sun = better. We've built our skin colour very slowly from gradual skin exposure. If we were doing something like going to the beach for the day the kids would be in rashies with hats. Both of them seem to be allergic to sunscreen so covering up is the better option for us.
Alex Good - Here is the link to one government website stating just that Skin cancer - risk factors | Better Health Channel
I read somewhere else that of those 1 in 60 will be potentially deadly. I'm not sure what the other 59 are? I think the argument here is that the people that lived here in palaeolithic times were very dark skinned.
Rita Rose- That's very reassuring.
Thanks again. My brain was sent into panic mode by a parenting forum I belong to. They were ripping into a mother who had her baby outside at 3pm and some of her skin was exposed. I was too scared to say anything.
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CW - 60kg / 132lb
GW - 60kg / 132lb
I am in Tasmania, and even though the temperature doesn't reach Qld's temps...the sun does burn a lot quicker, even on low temp days. Many a tourist's holidays have been ruined by a severe bout of sunburn because they hadn't expected the sun to burn so much at such low temps.
I am not a sun bunny and do not spend hours sunbaking, that said, I do enjoy being out in the sun for incidental activity, and I do take some minor precautions.
Primal Blueprint book provided some reasonable guidelines for exposure to the sun.
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