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10mm Vs. .45ACP
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February 22, 2009, 03:08 PM
I'm a fairly new handgun enthusiast, and I was wondering which would be better for a home protection weapon, a 10mm or a .45?
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February 22, 2009, 03:13 PM
Truth is those are both fine, you really wouldn't regret one over the other.
Performance wise it's close enough to not matter for self defense use.
10mm is gonna cost you more to shoot if that's a factor.
10mm is gonna give you 1 or 2 rounds more per magazine.
10mm is the tiniest bit harder to control in a full power load if you don't practice much.
.45 is so widely available it's not even funny, 10mm is much more scarce in the retail environment.
But really you're down to personal preference.
More guns out there in .45, and cheaper ammo. Even with that I prefer 10mm but that's simply because I wanted the extra rounds in the mag.
February 22, 2009, 03:14 PM
uh oh
February 22, 2009, 03:15 PM
By your question and honesty about your shooting experience may I suggest you go to a reputable shop/instructor and get some experience with several handguns and different calibers as firearms and the rounds are subject to your personal taste. Also if you can't hit your target or are not comfortable with your purchase you will not enjoy the shooting. Shooting can be a joy and not just for defense. Best to you, Anthony
February 22, 2009, 03:18 PM
given the choices the poster gave, I would choose the 45 acp. (home defense) however, I happen to own both, but thats because I happen to like to collect.
February 22, 2009, 03:23 PM
Whether a handgun points naturally for you is at least as important as caliber so you should find that out first before making up your mind about anything else.
Since 10mm and .45 ACP are pretty closely matched you'll find that there aren't a lot of arguments making one "better" than the other for self defense. Round count can be higher in a handgun shooting 10mm, but not more than a couple of rounds more than .45. Grip size may be a bit slimmer in 10mm, so that may be a deciding factor depending upon whether a larger or smaller grip diameter is desired (again, get the gun that fits).
As to "better" home protection firearm, shotgun. Most bang for the buck.
February 22, 2009, 03:31 PM
Wow ! Two reasonable replies and a phish.
Seporith has it right. Get instruction and something you can shoot and shoot a lot. A bullseye with a .22 means a lot more than a near miss with a .500 S&W.
Have fun,,,goldy
February 22, 2009, 03:42 PM
I have a couple of stainless Colt Gold Cups, one 45acp the othe 10mm auto.
Honestly the 10 is by far the most accurate. I have had some problems with commercial ammo in the past, PMC in fact, that was so hot loaded it was bulging and occasionally blowing sidewalls out of cases. I threw the rest away and have only shot reloads since with no problems. It is much flatter shooting than the 45 and will shoot accuratly at much longer ranges.
February 22, 2009, 05:43 PM
Both are fine but as a new shooter I would suggest 45 between the 2. Actually a 9mm would be a better choice for new shooter.
General Geoff
February 22, 2009, 05:55 PM
The 10mm has more kinetic energy, has a flatter trajectory, will likely allow for more rounds in a magazine, and is also more expensive, has more recoil, and less selection of firearms chambered for it.
For a new handgun shooter I'd recommend the .45ACP for practicality/economical reasons. By all means if your budget is unlimited, though, check out 10mm as well.
edit; for what it's worth I'm a huge 10mm fan. I just know that it's not the most practical cartridge in the world.. :)
Vern Humphrey
February 22, 2009, 05:59 PM
The .45 ACP is a duplicate of the .45 round developed by Smith and Wesson. S&W wanted to sell the Army their No. 3 "Schofield" revolver, but the Army wanted it in .45. But the Schofield cylinder was too short to chamber the .45 Colt. So S&W developed a "short" .45 that could be used in both the S&W and Colt.
The Army (which manufactured it's own ammo in those days) decided to issue only the .45 S&W development -- and the troops loved it! It had less recoil, but was just as effective in combat.
The short version of the .45 developed indentical ballistics to the later .45 ACP -- in fact, the .45 ACP was developed to meet those ballistics.
Bottom line is, the .45 ACP is probably all the average shooter can handle when the chips are down. While there are those who can handle more, added power and recoil (above what the .45 ACP produces) tends to be a handicap for the average shooter.
February 22, 2009, 06:03 PM
10mm packs a slightly bigger punch, while .45 is more common and a little cheaper. I recommend .45 because I prefer it, but you will be in a good place no matter what you choose.
February 22, 2009, 06:57 PM
If you can handle it the 10mm is the best self defense round out there (in a semi auto). The thing is, most people cannot, so in that case the 45 is better, but keep in mind that many folks have a hard time with a 45acp. If that is the case then a 9mm that you practice with a lot beats either one.
February 22, 2009, 07:01 PM
I'd prefer the .45 for all the reasons posted above.
February 22, 2009, 07:06 PM
I've been thinking about a DW 10 MM, and was wondering if the commonly available 10 MM ammo is downloaded from it's original issue to the FBI, and if it is, would the DW Razorback handle loads that duplicated the original?
February 22, 2009, 07:23 PM
For general use, I'd get a .45acp in 200 JHP +P or a 230gr +P JHP. Speer Gold Dot, CorBon or Remington Golden Saber should do well. :D
The 10mm is very powerful but does not feed well in all regular pistols and it is not as common as the .45acp or 9mmNATO.
See AZ v Fish, a court case where a retired teacher used a 10mm 1911a1 and it was a major factor to the jury, :uhoh:.
February 22, 2009, 10:29 PM
AZ v Fish was the result of a failure of the defense to do anything even remotely similar to a passable job of refuting claims made by the prosecution.
I am unaware of consistent feeding issues the 10mm has. It fed great in every 10 I have owned or shot. That pretty much covers the spectrum of 1911's, Glock's and CZ clones.
But, it really is preference for home defense. If you don't reload, I would suggest the 45, as you are more likely to buy a box of rounds locally and practice when the 10mm may be harder to feed. If you plan to reload, or are willing to buy 1,000 rounds at a time online and keep them in stock, it is back to a complete draw.
February 22, 2009, 11:15 PM
IMO, you need to find the gun that fits your hand and shooting style. Each type has subtle and not so subtle differences and after fondling as many as you can at the counter, or renting them at the range, you will find one that is meant for you. You may find that the manufacturer of the gun you want does not offer a 10mm, which could make the decision for you.
Regardless, a bad guy would not want to be hit square by either round so I don't think you can go wrong choosing between the two.
A few people brought up education, and that is more important than the round or the gun. Learning how to handle the firearm you own the proper way can bring years of good times and the associated peace of mind that comes with it.
February 23, 2009, 01:32 AM
AZ v Fish was the result of a failure of the defense to do anything even remotely similar to a passable job of refuting claims made by the prosecution.
Thank you! It's nice to hear somebody say this. I listened to an interview with one of the jurors, and she said that the fact that he carried hollow point ammunition really disturbed her. :barf: I can't imagine how ideas like that were not smashed down by the defense.
Back on topic...I agree with pretty much everyone so far. If you were a reloader and wanted a gun you could also take hiking in the wilderness, I'd say the 10mm in a heartbeat. But in the confines of a house, and especially on 2 legged critters the 10mm just doesn't have much of an advantage. Or better said, the .45acp is plenty. It's also cheaper, more common by FAR, easier to shoot, and available in just about every auto pistol design. All of this, and it really doesn't give up much for thin skinned light boned bipeds.
February 23, 2009, 01:40 AM
As to "better" home protection firearm, shotgun. Most bang for the buck.
+1 But if you're talking pistol, I say....9mm! I kid, I kid - for reasons that others have stated, I'd take .45. Personally I have a 9mm but that is more from financial factors than anything else, so much cheaper to shoot with and thus I get more practice time in. Just like oldgold said A bullseye with a .22 means a lot more than a near miss with a .500 S&W.
So I go with what I can more easily get my hands on.
February 23, 2009, 05:07 AM
If you have a local range that rents hand guns go there and rent the one they have in 10mm and any one of the ones they have in 45 and shoot them side by side. Then rent a 40 and pick the one that puts the holes in the paper where your aiming in the smallest group. I don't think many bad guys will know the diffrance if you make a good solid hit with any of them. IMHO
Kind of Blued
February 23, 2009, 08:59 AM
"Home defense" implies indoor shooting. Both are going to hurt, but the 10mm would more likely give you permanent hearing damage.
I'd go .45, and get a big (high-capacity) one while you're at it if this will only be a HD pistol.
February 23, 2009, 11:30 AM
It all depends on what suits your shooting comfort best both for caliber and platform.
Since I am usually accused of approaching life from a "black or white" perspective, I like and carry 9mm (a Glock 17) and .45 (a HK USP45). Sometimes I want a medium caliber; sometimes I want a large caliber.
If I found myself in the position of having a 10mm as my only means of self defense, I'd hardly waste a minute worrying about it.
Any solid service caliber; 9mm, .40 S&W, 10mm, .45 ACP...they'll all get the job done.
Pick what pleases you.
February 23, 2009, 12:07 PM
The 10mm is very powerful but does not feed well in all regular pistols Huh??? My Glock 10MM has thousands of jam free rounds 10MM rounds thru it. Granted my Colt Delta 10MM 1911 had many issues but is was a POS from the start. Best thing I did with that Colt was traded it in on a Glock 10mm.
For a new handgun enthusiast I would not recommend a 10 MM. Not even sure I would recommend a 45 Auto for a new shooter. Most beginning handgun shooters do far better with the 22 LR and 9mm over the 45 from my experience.
February 23, 2009, 12:30 PM
I'm a 45acp guy myself and not only because the ammo is so much more available and inexpensive than the 10mm.
More importantly, the 45acp gives you ALL KINDS of choices both in autoloaders and revolvers. (And some carbines.) Not true with the 10mm - there are some nice guns, but very few to choose from.
Why limit yourself? Both calibers made nice big holes and the 45 is less likely to go into your neighbors house.
February 23, 2009, 03:52 PM
I was wondering which would be better for a home protection weapon, a 10mm or a .45?
The 10mm wins ballistically speaking, any way you look at it. It is an amazing threat stopper (for a hand gun). However, if over-penetration is a concern, the 45 is a great alternative... that fat, slow, heavy bullet hardly penetrates a foot in soft tissue and bone, and the result is that all energy is absorbed by the target.
I went with the 10mm since I spend a lot of time in the wilderness, but for human-only duty, the 45 is more than enough. The nice thing about my G20 is that a simple barrel swap, and I have a 40 S&W to practice with... cheaper and more available.
The 10mm is very powerful but does not feed well in all regular pistols
Nothing feeds well in "all regular pistols"... whatever that means. There are also "regular pistols" that don't feed 9mm and 45 varieties sometimes.
It does feed perfectly in my Glock... which I think could qualify as being a "regular pistol".
February 23, 2009, 05:16 PM
I personally like the 10mm more, i think it might be because of my dislike of 1911s...? Better external ballistics (something important to me, because i can't get a lot of guns, pick the ones i do get carefully) and slightly higher capacity.
Peter M. Eick
February 23, 2009, 07:11 PM
I like the 10mm better because it is powerful enough and accurate enough to work like a weak rifle if you are protecting a spread from coyotes or the like.
For around the city I would go 45 acp and have less worry about penetration or over-penetration that is.
February 23, 2009, 08:15 PM
10mm is far better for being in the woods IMO. Much more powerful, and great penetration for larger predators.
Big Daddy Grim
February 23, 2009, 08:17 PM
although a .500 S&W goes off any where near me I'm hitting the floor they are loud as hell.
February 23, 2009, 08:57 PM
So why doesn't anybody bring up the .45 gap? High capacity with good knock down power.
Bit less recoil than my kimber even with the 230 grain "cheap round".
February 23, 2009, 09:47 PM
For what the OP's wanting then it's .45acp easily. More than enough for general purpose, two-legged threat encounters, etc. If you want a semiauto cartridge that is reasonable against some, some four-legged critters then 10mm is the way to go. I own both and love both. Two great cartridges!:D
February 24, 2009, 02:39 AM
So why doesn't anybody bring up the .45 gap?
Why would we suggest a nearly obsolete cartridge that offers no real benefit and is only chambered by one manufacturer, when it wasn't even listed by the OP? This is not a Glock love thread.
I personally like the 10mm more, i think it might be because of my dislike of 1911s...?
Huh? The 1911 is by far the most common 10mm platform. There are exactly two production non-1911 auto's in 10mm at present; Glock and Tanfoglio.
Now, to the OP. With a good load chosen, it's going to make very little difference. Both are in the upper echelon for defensive handgun cartridges, and both have more than enough wounding potential with proper shot placement. I own and carry handguns in 10mm and .45, and really feel that it's six of one, a half dozen of the other for defense against two legged threats. When I'm in the woods, I carry 10mm loaded with the heavily constructed 200 grain Hornady XTP. But that round has excessive penetration for targets of human dimensions and density. On that note, I have .45 +P+ loads for use in my S&W 4506/4516 that will nearly equal 10mm, pushing 240 grain Sierra JHC's at 1,115 FPS for 660 ft/lbs; My top 10mm loads launch 180 grain Golden Sabre's at 1400 FPS for 780 ft/lbs.
February 24, 2009, 10:04 AM
10mm is a great round for hunting. It is faster than the .45acp. The .45 acp is considered by many to be the best round for defensive situations ( stopping humans)
February 26, 2009, 07:25 PM
So is everyone from Colorado a smart !@#? I just asked a simple question, btw most of the GHP carry the 45 gap and ammo, at least in my state, is very easy to find. I also noticed that you mentioned the "nasty" word glock in your post....
Seven For Sure
February 28, 2009, 08:04 PM
slammy - the GAP is not high capacity when compared to the 10mm, 40 and 9mm. In fact, the ACP Glocks have a much higher capacity than the GAP's in Glocks at least. The GAP really is almost dead. If you shoot it www.natchezss.com has 25 rds. of 230 gr. golden saber bonded for $11 and change. The other calibers are twice or more than that. The price has dropped over $2 in the last few fliers I've seen. It's a great deal, I carry golden saber bonded in 40 and 357sig and it costs much more than that per rd.
Mach IV - there are other 10mm auto's in production than the ones you listed.
February 28, 2009, 08:08 PM
10mm gives more ammo, and better overall ballistic performance.
There are more guns out there in .45 ACP.
Not much more to say without going into a diatribe.
Hungry Seagull
February 28, 2009, 08:15 PM
Walking in the woods, whistling in the air, enjoying nature in all it's splendor....
.45 on the Hip and a 870 slung to the shoulder with 3 inch mags loaded.
Should be able to handle anything in the forest. Except maybe Green Giant.
February 28, 2009, 08:33 PM
.45 on the Hip and a 870 slung to the shoulder with 3 inch mags loaded
Lucky for you that yo ucan carry guns on your shoulders. The liberal losers in these neck of the woods have made it illegal to open carry guns on most nature trails. You are forced to conceal carry any weapon you choose to protect yourself, which usually means you have to carry a handgun.
Has anyone heard of the Glock 20 Slim frames? I hear they have the same magazine capacity as the regular sized Glock 20s. The one thing that turn me off to the Glock 10mm was that super bulky grip, that makes me thinik I am holding a boxy chunk of plastic. I like the thought of a glock slim frame. I am thinking it would be a good outdoor gun. The only other alternatie to the Glock 10mm I have seen are the 8 round .357 S&W revolvers. However, using speed loaders instead of mags is one disadvantage of the a revolver, especially if yo uare being charged by some angry animal in the woods.
Anyone know if it is safe to shoot +P+ 45 ammo in S&W M&P 45 gun, or in most 45 semi-autos for that matter?
February 28, 2009, 08:34 PM
Since 10mm and .45 ACP are pretty closely matched you'll find that there aren't a lot of arguments making one "better" than the other for self defense.
What? In what regard are they closely matched? That they both have barrels, triggers, and grips?
Hungry Seagull
February 28, 2009, 08:35 PM
I dont know about the open carry laws yet in my state. But I can field strip the said weapon to gun parts and store it in ruck sack.
February 28, 2009, 08:39 PM
A bullseye with a .22 means a lot more than a near miss with a .500 S&W.
Oh, I don't know. The muzzle blast from the .500 will reach out as far as many self-defense shootings. I'd like to know how many people could stand their ground after a near miss from a .500 within twenty feet.
February 28, 2009, 08:41 PM
.45 on the Hip and a 870 slung to the shoulder with 3 inch mags loaded.
Should be able to handle anything in the forest.
Only, only, only, because you are in Arkansas.
Hungry Seagull
February 28, 2009, 08:45 PM
Wyocarp, Maybe so. But ye with long rifles way up yonder without forests can see me coming a few miles out.
Arkansas isnt the only state I think that is pretty gun friendly.
February 28, 2009, 08:47 PM
although a .500 S&W goes off any where near me I'm hitting the floor they are loud as hell.
While that is true, I've gone through ten .500 rounds when I surprised four mountains lions on a trail without hearing protection and the adrenaline essentially worked as ear plugs until the last round or two.
February 28, 2009, 08:55 PM
But ye with long rifles way up yonder without forests can see me coming a few miles out.
Unless antelope hunting, I am constantly wishing I could see more open ground and it is rarely several miles. The problem isn't when in the open tundra, although I have encountered mountain lions in the wide open seemingly vastness antelope areas, the problem areas are when hunting in areas that are more dense.
There are areas in Wyoming that it isn't a good idea to go back after meat that you aren't able to get out on the first trip because within an hour or two there are going to be a grizzly(s) on it.
Hungry Seagull
February 28, 2009, 08:58 PM
Mm. Didnt think of that about the Grizzlys.
I used to take cover whenever I hear a rifle in a forest while growing up. My small patch was enough to hide a deer once in a while.
But the true futility of taking cover from rifles is the speed of bullet. it gets to you before you hear it. St. Peter will be greeting me at the gates.
March 1, 2009, 03:46 AM
Why would we suggest a nearly obsolete cartridge that offers no real benefit and is only chambered by one manufacturer, when it wasn't even listed by the OP? This is not a Glock love thread.
I dont like the gap cartridge but it has nothing to do with glock love, there are a couple other manufacturers who chamber in 45gap.
March 1, 2009, 05:01 AM
Mach IV - there are other 10mm auto's in production than the ones you listed.
And those would be what?
All of the 10mm's currently available as new guns are some type of 1911, a variant of the Tanfoglio Witness (compact, FS, P-carry, Match, Stock, Hunter, Limited) or the G20/29.
The S&W 10XX series, Star Megastar, LAR Grizzly, Colt double eagle, etc. are out of production.
Of course there is the S&W 610, but we have both stated auto pistol.
I'm all ears if you know of another platform that I can add to my collection, though.
March 1, 2009, 05:49 AM
10mm is for bear defence and elk hunting vs .45 is for 4 legged defence.
March 1, 2009, 06:21 AM
The 10mm is available in some great hardcast loads from DoubleTap and Buffalo Bore, which are legitimate anti-(black) bear loads. That gives it more versatility than the .45, which is primarily an antipersonnel round (and a very effective one, by all accounts).
March 1, 2009, 06:48 AM
I'd think 10mm ammo would be even harder to find than .45ACP. Never seen any 10MM at Walmart. Any bulk deals on 10MM out there?
.357 magnum
March 1, 2009, 11:08 AM
.45acp All the way:) The recoil is not as bad as 10mm loads. Even more importantly .45 Ammo is a Quantum Leap easier to find for Practice and Defense. Statistically the .45acp is a little better stopper, but there is not a big enough difference with modern Ammo to be concerned with it.
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March 2, 2009, 10:18 AM
Both Georgia Arms (http://georgia-arms.com/bulkquantityammunition-cannedheat-1.aspx) and BVAC (http://www.bvac-ammo.com/page7.html) offer 10mm in 1000 round pricing. Right now BVAC has by far the best price at 335.50/1000 for 180 grn FMJ 10mm load. 45ACP is about $55 less per thousand.
Seven For Sure
March 2, 2009, 11:00 AM
MachIV - Sorry I don't know how to quote but heres a few in production you did'nt mention.
STI has a 10mm in production and Dan Wesson/CZ has four in production (slight variations but four nonetheless). Fusion has kits available also though I'll admit that is not an option for most shooters. 10mm is'nt a caliber for most shooters not because of the recoil but because of the lack of factory ammo and the cost of what is out there. I'm sure you'll agree it's mostly a reloaders or wealthy person's caliber at least for now. Over $700 for a case of DT hurts after a while and BB cost's twice that.
Good to see so many 10mm guys around these days. I've got a few auto's and a 610. Taken a few hogs with my 610, lot's of fun.
Seven For Sure
March 2, 2009, 11:05 AM
I see you said non 1911 platforms, my appologies. I'd love to see an all steel double stack. No safeties, just like a Glock but all steel. My Witness was sadly the biggest POS I've ever owned.
March 2, 2009, 11:01 PM
I'm inclined to believe there is a reason that every time someone posts something about a 10mm, someone else replies, "lol handcannon".
If you think you can handle a 10, I say go for it. I think the 10mm is a more powerful round. But, that's just picking a caliber.
Like they said, the fit of a gun, and whether you can hit something with it is far more important. Both are good calibers, and many people use less powerful rounds for SD and HD. Either would be quite sufficient.
March 3, 2009, 08:52 AM
you will probably end up with both anyways, so it really does not matter! LOL! i bought a 45. mostly because it is easier to shoot, less expensive to shoot, and plenty powerful for home defense. like the others have said the 10mm ammo is going to be a lot less common. EVERYBODY that sells handgun ammo, will have some kind of 45acp. BUT, if you do any hunting, and you think there is ANY possibility that someday, you might want to hunt with a handgun. the 10mm is the way to go. otherwise, you will be looking for another firearm to take into the woods with you.
March 3, 2009, 05:38 PM
Coin toss. Shot both. Have a 45acp
March 3, 2009, 06:15 PM
I shoot both a lot. In fact I just picked up an fnp 45, 14 rounds and unlike my glock a user friendly grip and a hammer too. I recently discovered 45 super and the difference out to 150 yards between the two is minimal. They both will put 180g out at over 1300fps.
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Cross Dressing and the Criminal
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Hofstra Univ. Legal Studies Research Paper No. 07-33
Drawing upon cultural studies, literary theory, and criminal law, Cross Dressing and the Criminal argues that cross dressing as a metaphor, as a sign, as a practice has the potential to subvert not only expectations about gender, but also about race, sexuality, class, and status. Taking up Judith Butler's suggestion that we could all benefit from serious play, and turning to the criminal arena, this essay conceptualizes a justice system in which officers, prosecutors, jurors, and judges engage in imaginative acts of cross dressing in cases where implicit biases may be present. Such imaginative acts, the essay argues, would not only have the salutary effect of foregrounding such biases. It would also allow decision-makers to override them.
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The long road to the finale of The Bachelor has come to an end. On Monday, Brad Womack did what he couldn't do during his first stint as the Bachelor in 2007 – he handed out a final rose to the woman who he fell in love with during the show's 15th season.
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Sweet Emily Maynard, a single mom and widow from Charlotte, N.C., was Brad's final choice. And when he got down on one knee to propose marriage, she accepted.
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"I would love to," Maynard, 25, allowing him to place a Neil Lane diamond engagement ring on her finger.
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If you've ever come back from a holiday only to stare wide-eyed in disbelief at your credit card statement, you'll know that when you use your credit or debit card overseas you pay for a range of fees for transactions that are free within the UK.
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Many holidaymakers aren't even aware of all the charges involved. For example, using your credit card to withdraw money from an overseas cashpoint can result in three separate charges being levied – one for withdrawing cash from a credit card, another to convert the currency and a third charge for overseas usage.
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Financial analyst Defaqto has discovered that a £100 purchase overseas includes average charges of £2.87 for a credit card and £3.06 for a debit card. Simply drawing £100 from a foreign cashpoint resulted in additional average charges of £5.60 with a credit card (excluding interest) and £3.96 with a debit card.
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Philippines : The Outskirts and Corregidor
Hello Everybody! It's Kirbie's Boyfriend again.
Its that time again. Time to go visit the Philippines once more! You're getting such a fast forward and brief highlights of these various locations. I wish I could do the place justice in making sure its an interesting place that would make you want to visit the place. If the prices don't make you want to experience it, these fun observations should pique your attention! On to the picks.
This first location is in Marikina, it was hit by the flooding pretty hard as its located about 50 to 100 meters away from the waterfront. My relatives don't have a pool, but this little present by nature made this little enclosure into a great place to find water bugs, mosquitos nest, floating rats and all sorts of creatures that love hanging out in stagnant murky water.
During the flood and the time until the water receded, the community had to use some sort of transportation to go about their days. These boats helped make sure the neighborhood could get out of their homes and off to work or anything they needed to do without getting wet.
Luckily I can read and understand the langauge to capture these funny moments. I was wondering what a cash machine was doing in such an area that didn't need you to pull out so much cash. It turns out this machine is appropriately named for its function. ATM : Automatic Tubig Machine, this is where some tagalog is required. Tubig is water translated from tagalog,
Here's another machine that you might not be familiar with on first glance, it's the recycling "truck."
I didn't know that Mercedes makes a Jeepney vehicle, but as you can see from this Jeepney's grill Mercedes "obviously" makes them.
On this particular trip we decided for an indoor establishment that had air conditioning as most locales were outdoors or did not include a "cool" place to eat. Before you pass judgment, Chowking in the Philippines felt a lot different than the normal US versions. As per all establishments the service is excellent, even for a fast food place. From the greeter to the person taking the orders and the person bringing your food to your table, yes even the fast food establishments they bring your food to you rather than just calling your number.
Beef Noodle Soup – lots of garlic, smells really good, but tastes like garlic soup rather than beef noodle that I'm used to. Even with this first taste, I did try it again at a later time and it was delicious and less garlic-y.
Fried Tofu – This isn't for vegetarians as it has bits of fish mixed with soy sauce and lemon, garlic and onions.
Vegetables – a simple platter of Cancon similar to spinach with a side of bagaong sauce to add your some flavor and sodium.
Lariat – rice with fried chicken, chicharon chips and a purple shoupao with chocolate filling for dessert
Fish – Fried Bangos with rice
Dessert – Boku Pandan – ube ice cream topping this halo-halo with pandan jelly, ice and sugar with not so sweet condensed milk. Coconut bits in the eyes and sprinkled with oats topped this tasty dessert.
It was sometime in the afternoon and we had a fun drive back to the hotel. To cut some time out of our travel time we jumped into the bus lane… only for buses unless you're in a hurry or are in the Philippines where rules are just suggestions. Here we are in the bus lane, honking at the bus to hurry up in our "express" lane.
On a separate day we decided to do some actual touring and we ended up visiting Corregidor, the last bastion of US and Filipino defense during WWII and where General Douglas McArthur states his famous words " I shall return." Here are some quick highlights from the visit.
What you'll find in most historical sites that pertain to World War II are guns and things that were destroyed. Here are a guns and broken things.
This is the old light house that is pretty much just a tourist spot, there is a newer tower that is surrounded by an electric fence that acts as the new light house. I climbed to the top of this old tower and its as sturdy as when the Spanish colonials built, except for the reinforced iron rods added to the building later. Also the electrical system probably wasn't installed until much later either.
Here we have the Malinta Tunnel, bomb shelter, hospital and storage space. It was where the first president of the Philippines Common Wealth Manuel Quezon took his oath during WWII. Today, it is a light show with historical vocal re-enactments and accompanied with old black and white footage. Taking pictures in the tunnels is pretty useless as its pretty much just dark. Can you believe a tunnel into a mountain is dark inside? Here are some images of the darkness.
In the middle of the tour, you get a chance to take a lunch on the best restaurant on the island as this is the only restaurant on the island. Its got a nice outdoor patio area that overlooks the "South Pier" on the "South Beach" where tourists arrive.
As we entered we were given this no alcoholic drink, a Pandan drink. It has a sugar water flavor with a chocolate after taste and jelly on the bottom.
The setup was all you can eat buffet, but it was advisable to not get too stuffed as the tour would continue after the meal. I for one wanted to see how much better I would be treated if I just vomited during the tour so I ate my fill, especially a lot of the desserts.
The buffet consisted of many of the Favorite Filipino foods:
Chopsuey Vegetable – basically a mixture of stir fried vegetables
Pancit – I was surprised this version tasted less than satisfactory. It was a little overcooked in the microwave or something because the noodles were hard, I can't blame them too much the whole facility was pretty old.
Roast Chicken
Pork Menudo – I can't get enough of this. It was delicious, not that the other food wasn't, but this was exceptional.
Maha Blanka – Corn starch and actual corn inside this dessert that had the texture of a cheese cake. It was sweet with some cheese to make a complimentary flavor of salty and sweet.
Boku Pandan – I was told this was the traditional way to make Boku Pandan. Coconut and grass jelly mixed with condensed milke and pandan jello.
To wrap up the tour we visited the statue of General McArthur saying "I shall return," along side the North pier he stated this. As you can see the pier has seen better days and this garbage you see lapping up the shore is the same exact rubbish floating in the water since the days of WWII. Yes, the garbage is older than me, why else would I document this?
I hope you enjoyed this installment of images and my observations. Thanks and let us know what you think about the food or if this makes you want to visit the country!
- Kirbie's BF
8 Responses to "Philippines : The Outskirts and Corregidor"
I love pork menudo! I've never had Boku Pandan but my mom used to make some kind of grass jelly dessert when I was young and I recall liking it.
The beef noodle soup sounded great (esp w/ the garlic!).
I always get nervous when i see ice cream THAT purple! I mean, wow, that's a really bright purple ice cream!
Wonderful post…good job!
I've always heard how different Chowking(and Jollibee) is inthe Philippines, so it's really nice to see…..
I love beef menudo best and I dislike goat kind… It was my first time trying Boku Pandan and it was everything I expected, refreshingly cold. Its a great dessert or maybe even a meal to beat the heat. Glad I could help you recall some favorites
It probably wasn't a great way to beat the heat, but it smelled too good to pass up. I have yet to venture to Chowking in the US lest I lose the tasty memory of the Philippines version.
The Ube flavored ice cream wasn't bad, if you haven't had ube before its pretty good.
Thanks for the comments!
Something lost in the translation of service maybe? I'm more inclined to give a place more points based on how well they treat me, even if the food wasn't great. I'm sure Kirbie and I will hit up Jollibee and Chowking eventually. Thanks for the comments Kirk!
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On June 23, 1936, legislation was passed by Congress designating the last Sunday of September as Gold Star Mother's Day.
This year, the federal proclamation was for Gold Star Mother's and Gold Star Family Day on Sept.28. A Gold Star Mother (Family) is one who has lost a son or daughter in the military during time of war.
In the Santa Clarita Valley, 11 servicemen have lost their lives since Sept. 11, 2001.
"This year, we held the first Gold Star Mother's Day Tea," said Sharon Ventrice, co-chairwoman of the event, which was held at The Tea Gardens on Bouquet Canyon Road in Saugus.
Seven SCV Gold Star Mothers attended the event.
In attendance were Gold Star Mothers Michelle Unthank (Jake Suter), Kitty Conant (John M. Conant), Kay Slocum (Richard "Ricky" Slocum), Silvia Sellen (Dennis Sellen Jr.), Kathy Colley (Stephen Colley), Carolyn Acosta (Rudy Acosta) and Delia Gelig (Ian Gelig).
Tommie Huddleston and Ventrice co-chaired the inaugural event.
"They are the most amazing women you would ever want to meet," said Ventrice. "We invited these amazing women to a tea in their honor and to honor their sons for their ultimate sacrifice for our freedom."
Each mother received gifts and door prizes and enjoyed a High Tea including various teas, finger sandwiches, scones and cakes.
One of the gifts was a First Day of Issue Stamp Cover of the Gold Star Mother postage stamp dated Sept. 21, 1948, and another was an original Gold Star Mother pin dated 1 August 1947.
There was also a hankie for each woman that Huddleston had embroidered with a gold star by Linda Buesching of My Embroidery Services.
The décor included flower arrangements from Charmaine's Bouquet Canyon Florist of Saugus, beautifully wrapped gifts in pink, lime and purple pastels by Huddleston and Ventrice and lovely, delicate tea cups used by The Tea Gardens.
"There were some tears, some laughter and shared pictures of their sons among the women and a promise from us to never forget the sacrifices of their sons," said Ventrice.
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From the Institute of Social Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine, Division of Epidemiology (Drs Toschke and von Kries), and Dr von Hauner Children's Hospital (Drs Grote and Koletzko), Ludwig-Maximilians-University, Munich, Germany.
To assess the best anthropometric predictor from birth to 2 years for later overweight, based on recent studies reporting that large infant weight or length gain predicts subsequent overweight.
Retrospective cohort study.
Southern Germany.
German children (n = 4235) aged 5.0 to 6.9 years.
Main Outcome Measures
Overweight at school entry was defined according to sex- and age-specific body mass index cutpoints proposed by the International Obesity Task Force. Weight, length, body mass index, and ponderal index differences between birth, 6 months, 12 months, and 24 months of age were compared by receiver operating characteristic curves and predictive values.
For all variables, the largest area under the receiver operating characteristic curve was observed with a 24-month follow-up: 0.76 (95% confidence interval [CI], 0.74-0.79) for weight, 0.70 (95% CI, 0.67-0.72) for body mass index, and 0.58 (95% CI, 0.55-0.61) for length gain. The highest Youden index ([sensitivity plus specificity] minus 1) for weight gain from birth to 24 months (41%) was attained for a cutpoint of 9764 g, with a corresponding positive likelihood ratio of 2.39 (95% CI, 2.20-2.59) and positive predictive value of 19% (95% CI, 17%-21%), despite an odds ratio of 5.7 (95% CI, 4.5-7.1).
Weight gain from birth to 24 months was the best overall predictor of later overweight compared with other anthropometric markers and intervals. However, the corresponding poor positive predictive value suggests that only 1 of 5 children with a large weight gain in the first 2 years is overweight at school entry and reflects an insufficient predictability in the general population.
The prevalence of obesity and its related morbidity are increasing in industrialized countries worldwide.1- 4 In obese children, interventions rarely show satisfying long-term results.5 Therefore, identifying children at risk and appropriate for possible prevention at an early age is a major challenge.
Several studies6- 8 have shown that high birth weight is an important risk factor for later overweight, indicating the role of genetics and early priming by intrauterine environment. In addition, recent studies pointed to further priming of childhood overweight in the first 2 years of life by a high postnatal weight9- 12 or length13,14 gain. A large early weight or length gain might be a first indicator of a risk behavior for overweight and therefore be a first hint for counseling parents.
To identify the best anthropometric predictor for childhood overweight, we used standardized methods such as receiver operating characteristic curve analysis to identify optimal cutpoints and to compare weight gain with length gain and other anthropometric measures to predict childhood overweight.
This was a retrospective cohort study of children participating in the obligatory school entry health examination in 1999-2000 in 6 Bavarian communities (Germany). Data on height and weight at birth, 6 months, 12 months, and 24 months were obtained by pediatricians or general practitioners performing the examinations of the well-child preventive health program offered to all children in Germany. Parents were asked to copy the data from the well-child checkup booklets to questionnaires.
In the communities participating in this study, the distributions of body mass index (BMI), sex, and number of siblings were similar in the 1997 compulsory school entry health examination to those in all regions of Bavaria, suggesting that the study region is representative for Bavarian children.15 The region consists of one densely populated area (847 inhabitants/km2)—the city of Ingolstadt, a population in the outskirts of the city of Augsburg (214 inhabitants/km2)—and 4 rural areas (Miesbach, Günzburg, Kitzingen, and areas surrounding Regensburg), all with fewer than 200 inhabitants/km2. The overall questionnaire return rate, including non-German children and children younger than 5.0 and older than 6.9 years, was 75.9% (7386/9731).
The analysis was confined to the 5.0- to 6.9-year-old German children (n = 6862). Repeated measurements and exact points in time are required to determine an anthropometric gain. Only complete data sets for anthropometric measures at any point in time were used, to allow for comparison of gains during different intervals within the same population. Information on the anthropometric measures at birth, at the pediatric preventive health care examinations at ages 6 months, 12 months, and 24 months (well-child checkups), and at the school entry examination, was available for 4235 children (38% [2627/6862] of anthropometric measures were missing at any point in time). Children with complete information were similar to children with incomplete information with regard to mean BMI (calculated as weight in kilograms divided by the square of height in meters) at school entry (15.5 vs 15.2) and mean birth weight (3350 vs 3343 g).
Stature and weight of all children without shoes and with light clothing only were measured as part of the routine school entry health examination with balances and fixed stadiometers, or portable scales and stadiometers in case of examinations in kindergartens. Overweight was defined according to sex- and age-specific BMI cutpoints, based on the widely used cutoff point of 25 for adult overweight as proposed by the International Obesity Task Force.16
Gains in weight, length, BMI, or ponderal index (calculated as weight in kilograms divided by length in meters cubed) were defined as differences between observation times: 0 to 6 months, 6 to 12 months, 12 to 24 months, 0 to 12 months, and 0 to 24 months.
Sensitivity and specificity of weight gain, length gain, BMI gain, and ponderal index difference were determined at each cutpoint following distribution of respective gains. Positive likelihood function (receiver operating characteristic curve) analysis was performed using sensitivity and false positives (1 minus specificity) at all cutpoints as suggested by Choi.17 To compare predictability of different gains, the area under the curve was estimated and tested using the algorithm suggested by DeLong et al.18 Best possible cutpoints were defined at the highest Youden index ([sensitivity plus specificity] minus 1),19 and the confidence interval (CI) of the best positive likelihood ratio (sensitivity divided by false positives) was calculated as suggested by Simel et al.20 Predictive values were calculated based on the prevalence of overweight at school entry found in our study population of 4235 children.19
All calculations were carried out with the software packages SAS version 8.2 (SAS Institute Inc, Cary, NC) and Stata version 8.0 (StataCorp LP, College Station, Tex).
Between birth and age 2 years, the mean weight increased from 3.3 to 12.3 kg (373%), length from 51.2 to 87.4 cm (171%), and BMI from 12.7 to 16.1 (127%), whereas the ponderal index decreased from 24.9 to 18.4 (74% of initial value) (Table 1). The highest growth velocities were observed during the first 6 months, with 4.6 kg per 6 months for weight (mean increase, 23% of birth weight per month), 17.6 cm for length (6% per month), 4.1 for BMI (5% per month), and −0.4 for ponderal index (−0.3% per month).
At school entry, 382 children (9%) were overweight. Weight gain from birth to 2 years was associated with the largest area under the receiver operating characteristic curve, the highest Youden index of 41%, and the greatest positive likelihood ratio of 2.39 (95% CI, 2.20-2.59) at a cutpoint of 9764 g (Figure 1 and Table 2). Weight gain was the best predictor for later overweight at all cutpoints, compared with length gain, BMI gain, and ponderal index gain, reflecting an overall superiority. The 2-year interval was a better predictor compared with shorter intervals.
Receiver operating characteristic curves. A, For gain of weight, length, body mass index (BMI) (calculated as weight in kilograms divided by the square of height in meters), and ponderal index (calculated as weight in kilograms divided by length in meters cubed) from birth to 2 years of life. B, For weight gain during different intervals.
A weight gain greater than 9764 g from birth to 24 months was observed in 1400 children (33%) (Table 3). The odds ratio for weight gain greater than 9764 g and later overweight was 5.7 (95% CI, 4.5-7.1). The calculation of the corresponding sensitivity and specificity yielded 70% (95% CI, 65%-75%) and 71% (95% CI, 69%-72%), respectively. The probability of establishing overweight at school entry after a positive test result is called positive predictive value and was 19% (95% CI, 17%-21%) in the general population, while the negative predictive value (probability of not establishing overweight at school entry after a negative test result) was 96% (95% CI, 95%-97%).
Weight gain greater than 9764 g from birth to 24 months was the best predictor of overweight at school entry. The odds ratio for overweight at school entry associated with weight gain greater than 9764 g was 5.7 (95% CI, 4.5-7.1). This contrasts with a corresponding low positive likelihood ratio of 2.39 (95% CI, 2.20-2.59) and a positive predictive value of 19% (95% CI, 17%-21%), indicating that in the general population only 1 in 5 children presumed to be at risk for overweight because of a large weight gain will be overweight at school entry.
Analysis of receiver operating characteristic curves is a standardized tool to compare different predictors over the range of values. In addition to visual estimation, calculations of the corresponding areas under the curve and test algorithms allow for detecting the most powerful predictor. In our data, the curves of weight and length gain did not cross. Weight gain was a better predictor for childhood overweight than length gain or other anthropometric markers at every cutpoint, confirming the results of recent studies9- 12 pointing to the effect of early weight gain.
The potential to predict overweight at school entry was higher for weight gain from birth to 24 months than for other intervals within the first 2 years. Weight gain during a longer period and closest to the time of diagnosis of overweight appears more likely to be a better predictor. The use of weight gain during 2 years after birth as a marker for identification of children at risk for later overweight should be early enough for application of intervention strategies, with possible modification of underlying risk behavior.
The weight data at birth and during the first 2 years were copied from physicians' documentation at the time of the respective well-child checkup visit. Misclassification might result in biased estimates. Any decision making based on large weight gain, however, is based on documentation in a routine setting. Therefore our data provide estimates that are likely to reflect the degree of prediction attainable in physicians' practices.
It is unlikely that the poor positive likelihood ratio and positive predictive value of early weight gain for later overweight found in this analysis are specific for weight gain patterns in Bavaria. The Euro-Growth Study21 could not detect differences in growth patterns among populations of European infants, and an association between early weight gain and later overweight of similar magnitude was found in different populations.9- 12
Although a large weight gain during the first 2 years increases the risk for later overweight, the practical usefulness as a single clinical variable for early identification of children at risk for overweight is limited in the general population. A likelihood ratio of 2:5 may indicate small (but sometimes important) changes in disease probability.22 However, in a population with an overweight prevalence of 9% (pretest probability), the positive predictive value (posttest disease probability for positive results) was only 19%, implying that 81% of children with large infant weight gain would undergo an unnecessary intervention, with potential adverse effects if intervention was based on large early weight gain.
Even though the predictive potential of a large weight gain may be higher among high-risk populations, other markers need to be considered to allow for early identification of children at high risk for later overweight with sufficient precision.
Recent studies have shown an association between infant weight gain and overweight later in life, but until now a comparison with other anthropometric measures in infancy, their best cutpoints, and calculation of predictive values has been lacking. Weight gain was the best overall anthropometric predictor in infancy for later overweight. However, low corresponding poor likelihood ratio and positive predictive value suggest that infant weight gain will not allow prediction of childhood overweight with sufficient power as a single variable.
Corresponding author: Andre Michael Toschke, MD, MPH, Division of Pediatric Epidemiology, Institute of Social Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine, Ludwig-Maximilians-University, Heiglhofstrasse 63, 81377 Munich, Germany (e-mail: firstname.lastname@example.com).
Accepted for publication December 11, 2003.
This study was supported in part by the Commission of the European Communities and by the Research and Technology Development Quality of Life and Management of Living Resources Programme, Brussels, Belgium; and by grant QLK1-2001-00389 from the Childhood Obesity–Programming by Infant Nutrition (CHOPIN) and by the Bayerisches Staatsministerium für Arbeit, Sozialordnung, Familie, Frauen und Gesundheit, Democh Mauermeier Foundation, and Child Health Foundation, Munich.
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Klyde's Crate Training Success!
Klyde's crate training was a success! He walked right in this morning and is now safely on his way to Sedgwick County Zoo.
Klyde's two main keepers, Marjorie and Randy, will be accompanying him on the drive to his new home, where he will get to meet his new girlfriend and keepers. They are not willing to let him go it alone. They will also have the opportunity to teach the keepers that will be working with him all of his behaviors and favorite foods, toys, and treats. Even though this is going to be a HUGE transition, Marge and Randy are making it as smooth going as possible.
Last week had ups and downs for Klyde and the staff in the Veldt. Klyde went from many good days in a row to having a few days that set him back. When an animal get set back, you have to return to the stage that they are willing to work with you and then move forward again. Usually the progress is a faster progress than the first time, at least that's what most trainers bank on!
Little things could have set Klyde back, from someone starting a blower on the path way below him, as he first enters the crate in the morning, to a cart driving by. New noises, smells, and sometimes the unknown will make an animal decide that something it has been doing reliably for days is no longer alright. When you are training animals, patience is a virtue and a requirement.
When Marge let me know that Klyde was starting to regress, we talked about the pros and cons of how to move forward. We decided to go back to plan A and back to when he was successfully coming in and comfortably staying in. Instead of adding people to the outside making noise around the crate, something he will have to deal with, once he is in the crate for his move, we decided it would be more beneficial to get him used to someone standing on top of the crate, as this will be imperative to shutting the back door of his crate.
Many days were spent getting Klyde comfortable again with coming in, including allowing him access at night. Once he was back on track we added a piece of plywood to the top of his enclosure so someone could stand on it, and not totally scare him. Then we had one keeper go up top, before Klyde had access to the crate area, and a second keeper called him in. This way Klyde was able to get used to hearing a voice from above him as well.
All of this work resulted in a smooth transition into the crate. Bye Klyde! We will miss you.
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Klyde's Crate Training Update
Klyde's crate conditioning is going very well! Since my previous post, keepers have continued to work with him daily. To start, each evening they would close off access into the crate, giving Klyde a break from seeing it through the night. Then, in the morning, they would re-open it and he would find it contained his breakfast and extra treats. Each day keepers moved more and more of his breakfast into the crate, creating an inviting space that allowed Klyde to feel comfortable and confident. After several days, everyone felt they were at a point when no food needed to be offered in his other stalls except for in his crate. This was no issue for Klyde, as every crate experience he has had thus far has been very positive. He had no problem with his new designated feeding area. Each morning the food would appear an inch further back in the crate, from the day before. And every day, Klyde never even thought twice about his advancement into the crate.
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We are all so excited about Klyde's progress moving forward! In the first 11 days of training it has gone far better than ever expected, but that's what happens when keepers and animals have such a wonderful and positive relationship! Klyde is willing and wanting to work with his keepers and his keepers are allowing him to move at his comfort level… setting him up for success is the most important part of training!
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Getting Ready For Summer With New Black Rhino Seyia!
At the end of last summer I wrote about training Klyde, our male black Rhino, to happily enter a crate, so he could travel to his new home and hopefully produce a bouncing baby rhino calf.
But when Klyde left he also left us with an empty exhibit and a hole in our heart. He would come down to our encounter area each and every day allowing visitors to have an up close experience, watching him do his training behaviors. All could appreciate how strong and intelligent he was, how all 3,450lbs of him moved effortlessly, and how truly magnificent he was. He was after all the mascot of the zoo, the rhino in our logo, who could ever fill this void or even come close to replacing him?!
Enter Seyia! This three year old adolescent and southern bell came to us from her birth zoo in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Leaving her mom and the only keepers she has ever known, this brave little lady arrived at the Cincinnati Zoo in late Aug of 2013. In a few short weeks she went from being timid and little nervous, of all that was new, to her to relishing her keepers and exhibit. When she found the mud wallow for the first time you could physically see the joy and excitement on her face.
Adjustment period flew by for her and quickly she was ready to learn more than just her exhibit and keepers. She was ready to start training! Marjorie, her main keeper, had a list for us to begin training from. The first was for Seyia to lean her body against the poles of her enclosure, so she could be bathed, skin checked and oiled, and just for an overall good evaluation of her health. We couldn't believe how quickly she caught on to asking her to move over. Then we added asking her to place her front foot on a block so we could begin doing foot care, she figured this out rapidly too! The first time the "light bulb" went on, she lifted her foot so high we were laughing about her overzealous nature to please. The next hurdle was teaching her to lie down. Imagine asking a 2,400 lb animal to place herself in the most vulnerable position, in front of hundreds of visitors. She is now doing this reliably out on exhibit during her training sessions!
Smart is not all Seyia has going for her, she is also very sweet natured and craves attention from her keepers. So much so she began calling to them, something black rhino's are NOT known to do. Marjorie and I decided it would be an incredible experience for patrons to be able to hear this animal actually make a sound. So we began capturing the behavior and now she will "speak" on command. She is still a little unsure how loud we want her be outside, but inside she is quite happy to be loud all day! Her vocal call is such a different sound. Some compare it to a whale, others to a bird, and some say it sounds like a child's kazoo. The best part is this spring and summer you will be able to hear her, see her, and watch her train with Marjorie in her exhibit!
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