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For you discerning women, here is a short list of facts and ideas from the most amazing man you'll ever meet, ME:
1. I am the best thing to come to online dating since you discovered how to take pictures of yourself at an "angle"
2. You say you like to cuddle? It's not enough to enjoy it--I compete. I was 2007-9 interstate cuddling champion, google it.
3. This is kind of a big deal but I've been voted to have the 7th best hair on facebook, check the records.
4. You say Chivalry is dead? Well even though you women killed it--I'm bringing it back. None of that holding the door or giving you my umbrella nonsense. I'm talking real chivalry. You'll be a bonnet wearing, illiterate, no voting, chained to the stove with a heavy weight--actual woman.
5. While studying in Japan I developed an affinity for Japanese. If you speak it, I will give 3 points upgrade on your Hotness scale. You're a 6? Now you're a 9! Not a bad deal, if you ask me. (Will work out a similar scale for Russian speakers)
6. I like everything HOT: hot dogs, hot tubs, hot peppers, Hot Wheels, walking on hot coals, hot chocolate, hot springs, anything hot off the grill or press, salsa, chilis, wasabi, the weather, whatevah. Yeah, you know EXACTLY where I'm going with this.
7. Can I hold an intelligent conversation? Fuggetaboutit
8. Am I just trying to get into your pants? No. Actually, I'm trying to get you out of them
9. Unlike these other idiots, I know how to use spell checker, you should too.
10. I'm a highly successful online dater, which I believe is the epitome of human accomplishment.
11. My only fault is that I have none. You, too, should be perfect in every way.
There's 10+1 for you skeptics. Which makes 11, my favorite number.
But hey, don't take my word for it here's a section from the fans
Testimonials in my inbox from girls just like you who have messaged me:
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"Everyone can tell you're a complete...nice...guy" ;)
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Saginaw man gets prison term for driving car through 2012 Bay City Fireworks Festival crowd
A Bay County judge told a Saginaw man it is "quite remarkable" no one was seriously injured or killed when the man drove his mother's car through a crowd of people following the 2012 Bay City Fireworks Festival.
Bay County Circuit Judge Harry P. Gill on Monday, July 22, said Kason M. Weems, 23, was "driving in an exceedingly dangerous fashion in an area packed full of people for the Fourth of July fireworks. Thousands of people were there and he was driving erratically and dangerously and it is quite remarkable from the testimony we heard that there wasn't a death, more than one death or serious injury."
The morning her trial was to begin, a Portsmouth Township woman pleaded guilty as charged to stealing a six-figure sum from the Bay City attorneys who employed her for more than a decade.
Kathryn E. Charbonneau, 50, on Tuesday, July 23, appeared before Bay County Chief Circuit Judge Kenneth W. Schmidt and pleaded guilty to one count of embezzlement of $100,000 or more. Bay County Assistant Prosecutor Barbara Hayward said that no other charges were being dismissed, and the extent of the plea deal meant that her office would go along with whatever sentencing guidelines are determined.
About 15 protesters stood near the Mill End Lofts construction site on Fifth Street holding signs that read "Local jobs for local workers."
The demonstrators arrived at the construction site, where the former Mill End building stood on the northeast corner of Center and Water, about 8 a.m. Tuesday, July 23. They plan to stay there until 1 p.m., said Greg Lobodzinski, union business representative for Bricklayers & Allied Craftworkers.
A California man's Bay City rental property, termed blighted by city officials, has avoided demolition for now.
Bay County Circuit Judge Kenneth W. Schmidt ordered the city to remove 801 Fraser St. from its to-be-razed list, at least temporarily, at a Monday, July 22, hearing.

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Louisiana House members were divided over an amendment to eliminate funding for an alternative second engine for the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, which the Pentagon says it doesn't need and can't afford.
It was an interesting vote in the midst of all the budget cutting last week by the House because this is a reduction the Obama administration supports, but House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, opposed. Cancellation of the second engine will cost jobs in Boehner's home state of Ohio.
In the end, 110 Republicans joined 123 Democrats in defying the speaker. Yes votes from Louisiana were cast by Reps. Charles Boustany, R-Lafayette, a good friend of Boehner's; Jeff Landry, R-New Iberia and Bill Cassidy, R-Baton Rouge. Voting against the cut, which will save $450 million this year and $3 billion over the next several years, were Reps. Steve Scalise, R-Jefferson, Cedric Richmond, D-New Orleans, John Fleming, R-Minden and Rodney Alexander, R-Quitman.
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Dunsscot - More on Russell as FDS
Duns: AlanF provided excellent source references to demonstrate that Charles Taze Russell (CTR) was considered the exclusive Faithful and Wise Servant (aka: Faithful and Discreet Slave[FDS]). After reading the historical material he cited and quoted, I found this more recent additional confirmation:
"The view generally held, that Pastor Russell himself was the "faithful and wise servant" of Matthew 25:45-47, created considerable difficulty for some years."
- Jehovah's Witnesses in the Divine Purpose, p.69, published 1959, Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania
The Footnotes at the bottom of pages 68 and 69 are some of the same as AlanF cited: Nov. 1881 Wt, p.5 and The Battle of Armageddon, 1897, pp.613, 1614; The Finished Mystery, 1917, pp. 53,125, 237, 416-423; Wt. 1916, p. 377; Wt. 1917, pp. 323, 324; Wt. 1919, p. 103; Wt. 1923, pp. 67, 68.
So, 43 years after CTR's death, the Watch Tower Society still recognized the fact that CTR was generally understood to be exclusive FDS. This "general" understanding would not have existed were it not for the cited publications, and for 'private' conversations where CTR himself admitted that he believed himself to be that 'Servant.' The Bible Students would not have made up such things, and if they had, I am sure that CTR would have made a published correction in the pages of the Watchtower. But, CTR made no such corrections. Thus, by omission, CTR allowed this 'understanding' to continue.
Perhaps, you need to face the facts, and admit that you were in error, and move on to other subjects with AlanF. Admission of error now will speak well of you, and improve your credibility - though badly damaged as it is - when discussing other topics. Admission of error is good for the soul, and is something that the Governing Body has yet to learn.
"Thinking people" understand what a "folly" it is to fail to see and admit one's errors. "Intelligent people," with a "good attitude" are not afraid of a "measure" of humility and modesty. If you apply these basic attributes to yourself, as you develop a Christian personality, you "might" be granted everlasting life my son! - Amazing


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> I compiled a program in a rare language (Common Lisp) on a 32-bit SUSE 10
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> Thus I tried to install the 32-bit version of libssl on the 64-bit
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In recent years there has been difficulty in filling a large number of vacant positions for pediatrie department chairpersons. Coincidentally, the number of medical students interested in pursuing careers in pediatrics has decreased. While neither issue has received wide spread discussion or analysis, it occurs to me that they may be related. In most departments of pediatrics, one individual, the department chairperson, is charged with the responsibility of maintaining the quality of its major activities: training, acquiring new knowledge, and providingdirect medical care. Not having a chairperson can lead to suboptimal program development and low faculty morale. The perceptions of the students that we are trying to attract may be adversely affected by such conditions.
The process of selecting a new department chairperson has changed very little over the last few decades despite dramatic changes in academic medicine. Some ofthese changes have led administrators to express
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Keeping Christ in Christmas - the reason for the season, many say - is the goal for Christian bookstores in Amarillo that offer gifts for those who enjoy professing and sharing their faith.
Employees at Landstuhl Christian Bookstore & Gift, 2500 S. Coulter St., Suite 122, said they try to fulfill the needs of all Christians.
"We feel we are a one-stop Christian bookstore," store manager Erma Lou Ashley said. "I like to think we carry everything they need."
That includes Bibles, inspirational books, T-shirts, statuary, CDs and cassettes. Catering to the wired Christian in the computer age, Landstuhl stocks Bible-based computer programs "and the electronic Bible," Ashley said. "It's a handheld computer we have on sale for $79."
Assistant manager Kim Day indicated a display rack of jigsaw puzzles depicting biblical, inspirational and pastoral scenes.
"We sell a ton of jigsaw puzzles," Day said.
Ashley said: "We sell a lot of Veggie Tales and Bibleman."
A new series offered at Family Bookstores, 7408 S.W. 34th Ave., is the Bountiful Blessings line of kitchen items such as message boards, pitchers and creamers, said senior sales associate Ann Brothers.
"Journals are real good sellers," she said. "And the Eternal Garden series of bird feeders and fountains are popular and would make good gifts."
The "Left Behind" series of end-times novels enters the holiday season with the late-October release of "Desecration."
"The first four novels in the series are now offered as a box set," Brothers said.
She also recommended a boxed set by Christian author Max Lucado, "The Gift for All People," and "a lot of women go for the Mitford series of books. We can hardly keep them in stock."
A final recommendation Brothers made is companion books, "The Power of the Praying Husband" and "The Power of the Praying Wife."
High Plains Religious Book Store, Soncy Road and Westgate Parkway, offers some unique gifts, manager Debbie Howell said.
"We carry this fabulous dish ware with Scriptures inscribed on it," she said.
The framed art offered at High Plains "is our No. 1 best-seller at Christmas," she said. The store offers an entire alcove dedicated to the art of Thomas Kinkade.
"We also have several different lines of angels that are collectibles," Howell said, "including the Willow Tree Collection of angels of kindness and warmth."
An uncommon item is the P. Graham Dunn line of lasered wood products.
"It is the largest Mennonite Amish community and they make these wonderful wood plaques and wall hangings," she said.
Finally, "we offer a large selection of crosses. From pewter, wood and ceramic. You name it, it's here," Howell said.
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The Rev. Ricky Kirton, the pastor who performed the marriage of Tiger Woods and Elin Nordegren, has a message for the troubled couple: "Forgive each other. Be there for each other, and it will work out."
After learning of the pair's marital troubles, which came to light after the pro-golfer's Thanksgiving car crash, the Barbados-based preacher "started to pray for them," he tells PEOPLE.
Though he hasn't spoken to the couple since their wedding in 2004 at the swanky Sandy Lane resort in Barbados, Kirton recalls that both were "charismatic" and "attractive," and how, like all the couples he marries, they appeared to be in love.
Before Woods and Nordegren said their vows, the preacher says he offered them pre-marital counseling, but they opted not to take it. Still, he says, he talked to them during the ceremony about the keys to marriage, including communication, trust, forgiveness and "putting the past away."
Kirton, who is barred by a confidentiality agreement from discussing the details of the wedding, shares what he tells all the couples he marries: "I tell them to remain true to their vows. I want them to know this is serious and they have to work hard."
He also advises couples about the importance of apologizing. "Remember these four phrases," he says. "I was wrong. I am sorry. Please forgive me. I love you."
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John Calipari knew he was going into a hornets nest Thursday night at Notre Dame.
The Fighting Irish have taken down many ranked opponents on their home floor over the years, and the Wildcats became just the latest in a 64-50 setback that wasn't as close as the final score may indicate.
What the Kentucky coach did not anticipate, however, was how little sting his own team would pack in their sixth game of the year.
"We're a November basketball team. That's all I can tell you," Calipari said Friday as his eighth-ranked Wildcats (4-2) prepare for a quick turnaround and a 12:30 ET tipoff against Baylor (4-2) on Saturday at Rupp Arena.
"I watched the tape. We stopped playing, didn't compete; didn't come up with 50-50 balls; didn't play for one another. We kind of separated a little bit, but that's the first road game and, you know… I knew we'd struggle, but I thought we'd compete. That's the surprising thing. We just didn't battle them. It was obvious (Notre Dame) wanted the game more than we wanted the game."
Kentucky scored the fewest points during Calipari's four years in Lexington, allowed Notre Dame to shoot 48 percent from the field and were outrebounded 33-27 by the Fighting Irish.
Two of the Wildcats' top players, freshman guard Archie Goodwin and freshman forward Alex Poythress, scored three points apiece. They came into the game averaging a combined 37.4.
"What they did was kind of step back and let everything be dictated by Notre Dame, which is why the game turned out the way it did," Calipari said.
Were the Cats shell-shocked by their first true road game of the season?
"Maybe. I don't know," Calipari said. "You came to Kentucky. You came here. I mean, you're going to get shell-shocked? Well then you're going to get shell-shocked every road game you play then.
"I almost wanted them to stay out on the court and see them storm to the court to say, 'Do you understand every road game this is what will happen because you're Kentucky? You shouldn't have come here if you didn't know that.'"
The UK boss would prefer some extra time to work with his squad after such a disappointing effort, but thinks it might benefit the Cats to get back on the court as soon as possible. He said he's got to find ways to get freshman big men Nerlens Noel and Willie Cauley-Stein on the court together more often, which should help the rebounding woes, and is considering moving Goodwin away from the point and back to his natural shooting guard spot so the Cats can get more transition scoring opportunities. That would mean more of Ryan Harrow or Jarrod Polson at the point.
"This is as much me figuring it out as it is them," Calipari said. "The one thing that they have to bring is a competitive spirit and a will to win. I'll help them with all the other stuff.
"I keep hearing, 'Cal's teams always get better as the year goes on and they'll be at their best.' Well, that's if you really work. If you fall in love with practice and improvement, if you're in love with that, we're going to get better. I like my team. But if we don't, I don't have a magic wand. It's not what I do. This will be an interesting game. This will be a hard game for us… Will we be tentative because we got beat? This is a tough one. It's what we need."
Calipari praised Baylor's senior point guard, Pierre Jackson, who enters the game averaging 20.3 points and 6.7 assists per game. He said the Cats also have to be aggressive against the Bears' junior shooting guard, Brady Heslip (11.6 ppg, 38% 3pfg). "He can really shoot. If he gets it off, it's in."
Kentucky allowed Notre Dame to hit eight of its 15 attempts from 3-point range Thursday night.
Baylor also has solid frontcourt play in the combination of freshman Isaiah Austin (14.2 ppg, 8.2 rpg) and Cory Jefferson (14.3 ppg, 9.0 rpg).
"They're a little different (from last year's team UK faced in the Elite Eight) but they're good. They're a good team," Calipari said.
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In many relationships, financial decisions are delegated to one partner, and overwhelmingly, that person is male.
A recent study from Fidelity found that just 24 percent of women say they take responsibility for day-to-day financial decisions. And that actually represents an increase since 2011, when just 15 percent of women said so.
That gender gap presents a danger for women, in part because the life expectancy for women is longer than it is for men, and because women traditionally give up some of their earning power to be caregivers for at least part of their careers. Divorce can also hit women harder than men; according to a 2011 Census report, 23.3 percent of divorced women had taken public assistance in the last 12 months, versus 14.7 percent of divorced men and 15.2 percent of married women.
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1994, Volume 40, Issue 5
- 614-624 Decision Dynamics in Two High Reliability Military Organizations
by Karlene H. Roberts & Suzanne K. Stout & Jennifer J. Halpern
- 625-628 Folding Back in Decision Tree Analysis
by Rakesh Sarin & Peter Wakker
- 629-632 Optimal Leadtimes Planning in a Serial Production System
by Linguo Gong & Ton de Kok & Jie Ding
- 633-646 Pricing and Delivery-Time Performance in a Competitive Environment
by Lode Li & Yew Sing Lee
- 647-661 A Network Model to Maximize Navy Personnel Readiness and Its Solution
by Iosif A. Krass & Mustafa Ç. Pinar & Theodore J. Thompson & Stavros A. Zenios
- 662-669 The Generating Process and an Extension of Jewitt's Location Independent Risk Concept
by Michael Landsberger & Isaac Meilijson
- 670-684 Marginal Conditional Stochastic Dominance
by Haim Shalit & Shlomo Yitzhaki
1994, Volume 40, Issue 4
- 429-439 "Sticky Information" and the Locus of Problem Solving: Implications for Innovation
by Eric von Hippel
- 440-465 Explaining the Role of User Participation in Information System Use
by Jon Hartwick & Henri Barki
- 466-483 Coping with the Loss of Pooling Synergy in Cellular Manufacturing Systems
by Nallan C. Suresh & Jack R. Meredith
- 484-495 Contract-Based Motivation for Keeping Records of a Manager's Reporting and Budgeting History
by Anil Arya & John C. Fellingham & Richard A. Young
- 496-507 The Adoption of Corporate Governance Mechanisms: A Test of Competing Diffusion Models
by N. Venkatraman & Lawrence Loh & Jeongsuk Koh
- 508-515 Efficient Algorithms for Stochastic Dominance Tests Based on Financial Market Data
by Ronny Aboudi & Dominique Thon
- 516-534 Estimation Methods in Portfolio Selection and the Effectiveness of Short Sales Restrictions: UK Evidence
by John L. G. Board & Charles M. S. Sutcliffe
- 535-548 An Option Valuation Analysis of Investment Choices by a Regulated Firm
by Elizabeth Olmsted Teisberg
1994, Volume 40, Issue 3
- 285-304 A Taxonomy of Manufacturing Strategies
by Jeffrey G. Miller & Aleda V. Roth
- 305-319 Parallel Replacement under Capital Rationing Constraints
by Nejat Karabakal & Jack R. Lohmann & James C. Bean
- 320-332 A Periodic Review, Production Planning Model with Uncertain Capacity and Uncertain Demand---Optimality of Extended Myopic Policies
by Frank W. Ciarallo & Ramakrishna Akella & Thomas E. Morton
- 333-352 Importance Sampling for the Simulation of Highly Reliable Markovian Systems
by Perwez Shahabuddin
- 353-363 Economic Development of Groundwater in Arid Zones with Applications to the Negev Desert, Israel
by Jack Brimberg & Abraham Mehrez & Gideon Oron
- 364-384 Modeling Competitive Bidding: A Critical Essay
by Michael H. Rothkopf & Ronald M. Harstad
- 385-404 Investment Strategies under Transaction Costs: The Finite Horizon Case
by Gerard Gennotte & Alan Jung
- 405-417 A Disaggregate Negative Binomial Regression Procedure for Count Data Analysis
by Venkatram Ramaswamy & Eugene W. Anderson & Wayne S. DeSarbo
- 418-428 Transient Analysis of a Two-Unit Standby System with Markovian Degrading Units
by Frank A. Van der Duyn Schouten & Pieter Wartenhorst
1994, Volume 40, Issue 2
- 169-194 Regulatory Measurement and Evaluation of Telephone Service Quality
by John G. Lynch & Thomas E. Buzas & Sanford V. Berg
- 195-226 Dynamic Optimal Control Models in Advertising: Recent Developments
by Gustav Feichtinger & Richard F. Hartl & Suresh P. Sethi
- 227-251 Fortune Favors the Prepared Firm
by Wesley M. Cohen & Daniel A. Levinthal
- 252-262 Do People Rely on the Self-Interested Maximization of Others? An Experimental Test
by T. Randolph Beard & Richard O. Beil
- 263-279 What Common Ground Exists for Descriptive, Prescriptive, and Normative Utility Theories?
by R. Duncan Luce & Detlof von Winterfeldt
- 280-284 Multiple-Shift Workforce Scheduling Under the 3--4 Workweek with Different Weekday and Weekend Labor Requirements
by Rudy Hung
1994, Volume 40, Issue 1
- 1-3 Is Management Science International: In Search of Universal Rules
by Yair Aharoni & Richard M. Burton
- 4-13 Management Scientists Are Human
by Geert Hofstede
- 14-27 Components of Culture: Nature, Interconnections, and Relevance to the Decisions on the Organization Structure
by Helmy H. Baligh
- 28-39 When Can Management Science Research Be Generalized Internationally?
by Philip M. Rosenzweig
- 40-55 Analyzing Cross-National Management and Organizations: A Theoretical Framework
by Ran Lachman & Albert Nedd & Bob Hinings
- 56-71 Paradoxes of Organizational Theory and Research: Using the Case of China to Illustrate National Contingency
by Oded Shenkar & Mary Ann von Glinow
- 72-95 Explorations of Negotiation Behaviors in Ten Foreign Cultures Using a Model Developed in the United States
by John L. Graham & Alma T. Mintu & Waymond Rodgers
- 96-110 Interunit Communication in Multinational Corporations
by Sumantra Ghoshal & Harry Korine & Gabriel Szulanski
- 111-122 Cross-National "Laws" and Differences in Market Response
by John U. Farley & Donald R. Lehmann
- 123-139 Operating Flexibility, Global Manufacturing, and the Option Value of a Multinational Network
by Bruce Kogut & Nalin Kulatilaka
- 140-161 International Diversification of Investment Portfolios: U.S. and Japanese Perspectives
by Cheol S. Eun & Bruce G. Resnick
- 162-168 Notes: On the Concept of Universal Knowledge in Organizational Science: Implications for Cross-National Research
by Joseph L. C. Cheng
1993, Volume 39, Issue 12
- 1439-1458 Boom, Bust, and Failures to Learn in Experimental Markets
by Mark Paich & John D. Sterman
- 1459-1476 Simulation Factor Screening Using Harmonic Analysis
by Douglas J. Morrice & Lee W. Schruben
- 1477-1489 An Analytic Model for Design of a Multivehicle Automated Guided Vehicle System
by M. Eric Johnson & Margaret L. Brandeau
- 1490-1498 Near Myopic Heuristics for the Fixed-Life Perishability Problem
by Purushottaman Nandakumar & Thomas E. Morton
- 1499-1505 Optimal Control of a Manufacturing Process That Involves Trial Runs
by Guillermo Gallego & David D. Yao & Ilkyeong Moon
- 1506-1520 An Expert System for Maritime Pilots: Its Design and Assessment Using Gaming
by Martha Grabowski & William A. Wallace
- 1521-1525 Notes: The "Gambler's Fallacy" in Lottery Play
by Charles T. Clotfelter & Philip J. Cook
- 1526-1543 Evaluating and Combining Physicians' Probabilities of Survival in an Intensive Care Unit
by Robert L. Winkler & Roy M. Poses
- 1544-1551 A Practical Derived Lease Rate Algorithm
by Eyal Gutman & Joseph Yagil
- 1552-1553 Notes: A Reformulation of a Mean-Absolute Deviation Portfolio Optimization Model
by Charles D. Feinstein & Mukund N. Thapa
- i-i Judith E. Larrivee 1947-1993
by Donald G. Morrison
1993, Volume 39, Issue 11
- 1299-1318 Leadership Style and Incentives
by Julio J. Rotemberg & Garth Saloner
- 1319-1333 High-Definition Television: Assessing Demand Forecasts for a Next Generation Consumer Durable
by Barry L. Bayus
- 1334-1346 Direct Estimation of Synergy: A New Approach to the Diversity-Performance Debate
by Rachel Davis & L. G. Thomas
- 1347-1368 Structural Properties and a Heuristic for Kanban-Controlled Serial Lines
by Sridhar R. Tayur
- 1369-1381 Use of Piecewise Linear Value Functions in Interactive Multicriteria Decision Support: A Monte Carlo Study
by Theodor J. Stewart
- 1382-1395 Inconsistent Trade-Offs Between Attributes: New Evidence in Preference Assessment Biases
by Philippe Delquié
- 1396-1406 The Effects of Incentive Compensation Contracts on the Risk and Return Performance of Commodity Trading Advisors
by Joseph H. Golec
- 1407-1421 The Effect of a Large Shareholder on Corporate Value
by Steven Huddart
- 1422-1438 Stochastic Dedication: Designing Fixed Income Portfolios Using Massively Parallel Benders Decomposition
by Randall S. Hiller & Jonathan Eckstein
1993, Volume 39, Issue 10
- 1179-1189 Context-Dependent Preferences
by Amos Tversky & Itamar Simonson
- 1190-1192 Note: Microcomputer Performance of "FABLE" on Hoffmann's Data Sets
by Roger V. Johnson
- 1192-1193 Response to Note on Microcomputer Performance of "FABLE" on Hoffmann's Data Sets
by Thomas R. Hoffmann
- 1193-1193 Reply to Hoffmann
by Roger V. Johnson
- 1194-1201 The Output Process of Serial Production Lines of General Machines with Finite Buffers
by Kevin B. Hendricks & John O. McClain
- 1202-1213 The Valuation of Path Dependent Contracts on the Average
by Peter Ritchken & L. Sankarasubramanian & Anand M. Vijh
- 1214-1226 Decision Structuring with Phantom Alternatives
by Peter H. Farquhar & Anthony R. Pratkanis
- 1227-1237 Inferences with an Unknown Noise Level in a Bernoulli Process
by Anil Gaba
- 1238-1245 Evaluating the Overflow Probability Using the Infinite Queue
by Hirotaka Sakasegawa & Masakiyo Miyazawa & Genji Yamazaki
- 1246-1254 Discounted and Per Unit Net Revenues and Costs of Product Warranty: The Case of Phase-Type Lifetimes
by Edward P. C. Kao & Marion Spokony Smith
- 1255-1260 A Combined Tchebycheff/Aspiration Criterion Vector Interactive Multiobjective Programming Procedure
by Ralph E. Steuer & Joe Silverman & Alan W. Whisman
- 1261-1264 A Procedure for Ranking Efficient Units in Data Envelopment Analysis
by Per Andersen & Niels Christian Petersen
- 1265-1273 Maximum Likelihood, Consistency and Data Envelopment Analysis: A Statistical Foundation
by Rajiv D. Banker
- 1274-1280 Notes: Installation vs. Echelon Stock Policies for Multilevel Inventory Control
by Sven Axsäter & Kaj Rosling
- 1281-1297 Antecedents and Consequences of Project Team Cross-Functional Cooperation
by Mary Beth Pinto & Jeffrey K. Pinto & John E. Prescott
1993, Volume 39, Issue 9
- 1039-1053 Internal Pricing and Cost Allocation in a Model of Multiproduct Competition with Finite Capacity Increments
by Uday Karmarkar & Richard Pitbladdo
- 1054-1070 Greenfield vs. Acquisition: The Strategy of Japanese Investors in the United States
by Jean-François Hennart & Young-Ryeol Park
- 1071-1085 The Identification of Solution Ideas During Organizational Decision Making
by Paul C. Nutt
- 1086-1091 Better Estimation of PERT Activity Time Parameters
by Donald L. Keefer & William A. Verdini
- 1092-1107 Two-Interval Inventory-Allocation Policies in a One-Warehouse N-Identical-Retailer Distribution System
by Edward J. McGavin & Leroy B. Schwarz & James E. Ward
- 1108-1111 Notes: Conditions for the Applicability of the Regenerative Method
by Peter W. Glynn & Donald L. Iglehart
- 1112-1129 Multivariate Autoregressive Techniques for Constructing Confidence Regions on the Mean Vector
by John M. Charnes & W. David Kelton
- 1130-1145 Guarantees in Auctions: The Auction House as Negotiator and Managerial Decision Maker
by Eric A. Greenleaf & Ambar G. Rao & Atanu R. Sinha
- 1146-1162 Investigating the Sensitivity of Equilibrium Profits to Advertising Dynamics and Competitive Effects
by Pradeep K. Chintagunta
- 1163-1172 On the Extensive Number of Plays to Achieve Superior Performance with the Geometric Mean Strategy
by Donald C. Aucamp
- 1173-1178 Bounds for Different Arrangements of Tandem Queues with Nonoverlapping Service Times
by Yat-wah Wan & Ronald W. Wolff
1993, Volume 39, Issue 8
- 915-924 Growth-Security Investment Strategy for Long and Short Runs
by Yuming Li
- 925-936 Portfolio Choices in the Presence of Other Risks
by Israel Finkelshtain & James A. Chalfant
- 937-943 The Effect of Attribute Ranges on Weights in Multiattribute Utility Measurements
by Rüdiger von Nitzsch & Martin Weber
- 944-963 Diversification Under Supply Uncertainty
by Ravi Anupindi & Ram Akella
- 964-974 A Multiperiod Minimax Resource Allocation Problem with Substitutable Resources
by Quynh C. Nguyen & Richard E. Stone
- 975-988 Characterizing the Output Process of a CONWIP Line with Deterministic Processing and Random Outages
by Izak Duenyas & Wallace J. Hopp & Mark L. Spearman
- 989-1001 Control-Variate Models of Common Random Numbers for Multiple Comparisons with the Best
by Barry L. Nelson & Jason C. Hsu
- 1002-1019 Weighted Batch Means for Confidence Intervals in Steady-State Simulations
by Diane P. Bischak & W. David Kelton & Stephen M. Pollock
- 1020-1028 Large Fluctuations in a Deterministic Multiclass Network of Queues
by Ward Whitt
- 1029-1038 Laplace-Weibull Mixtures for Modeling Price Changes
by S. T. Rachev & A. SenGupta
1993, Volume 39, Issue 7
- 777-793 Compensation Plans for Single- and Multi-Product Salesforces: An Application of the Holmstrom-Milgrom Model
by Rajiv Lal & V. Srinivasan
- 794-805 The Effects of Risk Aversion on Production Decisions in Decentralized Organizations
by Anil Arya & John C. Fellingham & Richard A. Young
- 806-815 Outcome Signs, Question Frames and Discount Rates
by Marjorie K. Shelley
- 816-834 Covariance Structure Models and Influence Diagrams
by William J. Burns & Robert T. Clemen
- 835-844 Were the Returns from Stocks and Bonds of Different Countries Really Different in the 1980s?
by Andrew L. Turner & Chris R. Hensel
- 845-855 Massaging Mean-Variance Inputs: Returns from Alternative Global Investment Strategies in the 1980s
by Vijay K. Chopra & Chris R. Hensel & Andrew L. Turner
- 856-871 On the Use of Mean-Variance and Quadratic Approximations in Implementing Dynamic Investment Strategies: A Comparison of Returns and Investment Policies
by Robert R. Grauer & Nils H. Hakansson
- 872-885 Common Cycle Lot-Size Scheduling for Multi-Product, Multi-Stage Production
by Mohammad K. El-Najdawi & Paul R. Kleindorfer
- 886-899 Filtered Sampling from Populations with Heterogeneous Event Frequencies
by Alfred Blumstein & José A. Canela-Cacho & Jacqueline Cohen
- 900-913 An Algebraic Approach to Formulating and Solving Large Models for Sequential Decisions Under Uncertainty
by Craig W. Kirkwood
1993, Volume 39, Issue 6
- 657-682 Solving Airline Crew Scheduling Problems by Branch-and-Cut
by Karla L. Hoffman & Manfred Padberg
- 683-691 Mortgages and Markov Chains: A Simplified Evaluation Model
by Paul Zipkin
- 692-709 Valuation and Analysis of Collateralized Mortgage Obligations
by John J. McConnell & Manoj Singh
- 710-727 Optimal Power-of-Two Replenishment Strategies in Capacitated General Production/Distribution Networks
by A. Federgruen & Yu-Sheng Zheng
- 728-735 Level Schedules for Mixed-Model, Just-in-Time Processes
by George Steiner & Scott Yeomans
- 736-745 Flight Crew Scheduling
by Glenn W. Graves & Richard D. McBride & Ira Gershkoff & Diane Anderson & Deepa Mahidhara
- 746-756 Compound Sets in Mathematical Programming Modeling Languages
by J. J. Bisschop & C. A. C. Kuip
- 757-776 A Short-Cut Potential Reduction Algorithm for Linear Programming
by John A. Kaliski & Yinyu Ye
1993, Volume 39, Issue 5
- 517-535 The Rational Effect of Price Promotions on Sales and Consumption
by João L. Assunção & Robert J. Meyer
- 536-548 An Inventory Model of Immediate and Delayed Delivery
by Kamran Moinzadeh & Charles Ingene
- 549-567 A Synthesis of Decision Models for Tool Management in Automated Manufacturing
by Ann E. Gray & Abraham Seidmann & Kathryn E. Stecke
- 568-577 Portfolio Selection and Asset Pricing---Three-Parameter Framework
by Yusif Simaan
- 578-587 What is the Opportunity Cost of Mean-Variance Investment Strategies?
by Yusif Simaan
- 588-601 How to Settle an Estate
by H. Martin Weingartner & Bezalel Gavish
- 602-615 Effects of Ambiguity in Market Experiments
by Rakesh K. Sarin & Martin Weber
- 616-625 Minimizing the Makespan in the 3-Machine Assembly-Type Flowshop Scheduling Problem
by Chung-Yee Lee & T. C. E. Cheng & B. M. T. Lin
- 626-632 Weighted Tardiness Single Machine Scheduling with Proportional Weights
by Wlodzimierz Szwarc & John J. Liu
- 633-649 Two-Stage Perishable Inventory Models
by Chon-Huat Goh & Betsy S. Greenberg & Hirofumi Matsuo
- 650-653 A Single Bottleneck System with Binomial Yields and Rigid Demand
by Abraham Grosfeld-Nir & Boaz Ronen
- 654-655 Notes: "The Dynamics of Plant Layout"
by Jaydeep Balakrishnan
1993, Volume 39, Issue 4
- 395-410 Manufacturing Flexibility: A Strategic Perspective
by Donald Gerwin
- 411-428 Alternative Conceptions of Feedback in Dynamic Decision Environments: An Experimental Investigation
by Kishore Sengupta & Tarek K. Abdel-Hamid
- 429-447 Including the Value of Time in Design-for-Manufacturing Decision Making
by Karl Ulrich & David Sartorius & Scott Pearson & Mark Jakiela
- 448-457 Parallelism in Information Production: Moral Hazard and Relative Performance Evaluations
by Peter Bogetoft
- 458-476 Zero-Tolerance Policies: Do They Inhibit or Stimulate Illicit Drug Consumption?
by Jonathan P. Caulkins
- 477-486 A Dual Ascent and Column Generation Heuristic for the Discrete Lotsizing and Scheduling Problem with Setup Times
by Dirk Cattrysse & Marc Salomon & Roelof Kuik & Luk N. Van Wassenhove
- 487-491 The Bootstrap Approach for Testing Skewness Persistence
by Krishnamurty Muralidhar
- 492-500 Bandwidth Packing: A Tabu Search Approach
by Manuel Laguna & Fred Glover
- 501-515 Aggregating Point Estimates: A Flexible Modeling Approach
by Robert T. Clemen & Robert L. Winkler
1993, Volume 39, Issue 3
- 255-274 Selecting Product Development Projects: Pioneering versus Incremental Innovation Strategies
by Abdul Ali & Manohar U. Kalwani & Dan Kovenock
- 275-293 Bayesian Forecasting for Seemingly Unrelated Time Series: Application to Local Government Revenue Forecasting
by George Duncan & Wilpen Gorr & Janusz Szczypula
- 294-306 Flow Management in Flexible Manufacturing Cells with Pipeline Operations
by A. Agnetis & M. Lucertini & F. Nicolo
- 307-321 A Multistage Screening Model for Evaluation and Control of Misclassification Error in the Detection of Hypertension
by Herbert Moskowitz & Robert Plante & Hsien-Tang Tsai
- 322-339 The Impact of Autocorrelation on Queuing Systems
by Miron Livny & Benjamin Melamed & Athanassios K. Tsiolis
- 340-358 Moment Methods for Decision Analysis
by James E. Smith
- 359-383 Second Derivative Sample Path Estimators for the GI/G/m Queue
by Michael C. Fu & Jian-Qiang Hu
- 384-386 Notes: Categorical Outputs in Data Envelopment Analysis
by John J. Rousseau & John H. Semple
- 387-388 Comments on the Two-Product, Single-Machine, Static Demand, Infinite Horizon Lot Scheduling Problem
by Chen Shaoxiang
- 389-394 Multiattribute Risk Linearity
by Charles M. Harvey
1993, Volume 39, Issue 2
- 135-148 The Effects of Population Aging on the Physician Services Market: A Computable Equilibrium Analysis
by Martcia Wade
- 149-159 The Diffusion of Flexible Manufacturing Systems in Japan, Europe and the United States
by Edwin Mansfield
- 160-175 Heuristics for Pricing and Positioning a Product-Line Using Conjoint and Cost Data
by Gregory Dobson & Shlomo Kalish
- 176-190 Comparing the Calibration and Coherence of Numerical and Verbal Probability Judgments
by Thomas S. Wallsten & David V. Budescu & Rami Zwick
- 191-203 A Modeling Framework for Coordinating Promotion and Production Decisions within a Firm
by Aram G. Sogomonian & Christopher S. Tang
- 204-217 A Lower Bound and an Efficient Heuristic for Multistage Multiproduct Distribution Systems
by Paul Iyogun & Derek Atkins
- 218-240 Organizational Simulation and Information Systems Design: An Operations Level Example
by Arundhati Kumar & Peng Si Ow & Michael J. Prietula
- 241-252 Mt/G/\infty Queues with Sinusoidal Arrival Rates
by Stephen G. Eick & William A. Massey & Ward Whitt
- 253-253 Erratum: "Dynamic Bargaining with Transaction Costs"
by Peter C. Cramton
1993, Volume 39, Issue 1
- 1-16 Models for Measuring and Accounting for Cost of Conformance Quality
by P. Nandakumar & S. M. Datar & R. Akella
- 17-31 Timid Choices and Bold Forecasts: A Cognitive Perspective on Risk Taking
by Daniel Kahneman & Dan Lovallo
- 32-45 The Impact of Perceived Environmental Uncertainty and Perceived Agent Effectiveness on the Composition of Compensation Contracts
by Narayan S. Umanath & Manash R. Ray & Terry L. Campbell
- 46-53 Experimentation and Optimal Output Decisions: The Cooperative Versus the Entrepreneurial Firm
by Patrick Thompson & Ira Horowitz
- 54-71 The Solution of Multiperiod Network Models with Bundle Constraints by Aggregation
by Rotimi S. Aderohunmu & Jay E. Aronson
- 72-92 Screening Women of Childbearing Age for Human Immunodeficiency Virus: A Model-Based Policy Analysis
by Margaret L. Brandeau & Douglas K. Owens & Carol H. Sox & Robert M. Wachter
- 93-100 Solving Infinite-Horizon Discounted Markov Games Using a Superharmonic Least-Element Algorithm
by D. J. White
- 101-106 Optimal Allocation of Work in Assembly Systems
by Kenneth R. Baker & Stephen G. Powell & David F. Pyke
- 107-114 Competition and Investment in Flexible Technologies
by Lars-Hendrik Röller & Mihkel M. Tombak
- 115-125 Heuristic Algorithms for the Multiple Depot Vehicle Scheduling Problem
by Mauro Dell'Amico & Matteo Fischetti & Paolo Toth
- 126-133 Notes: Toward Characterizing the Optimal Allocation of Storage Space in Production Line Systems with Variable Processing Times
by Frederick S. Hillier & Kut C. So & Ronald W. Boling
- i-i From the Editor
by Gabriel R. Bitran
1992, Volume 38, Issue 12
- 1687-1706 An Emerging Distributed Work Arrangement: An Investigation of Computer-Based Supplemental Work at Home
by Alladi Venkatesh & Nicholas P. Vitalari
- 1707-1731 Strategic Risk: An Ordinal Approach
by James M. Collins & Timothy W. Ruefli
- 1732-1749 Empirical Analysis of Closed-Loop Duopoly Advertising Strategies
by Gary M. Erickson
- 1750-1764 Minimizing Total Cost in Scheduling Outpatient Appointments
by Chrwan-Jyh Ho & Hon-Shiang Lau
- 1765-1791 Simulation Designs for Quadratic Response Surface Models in the Presence of Model Misspecification
by Joan M. Donohue & Ernest C. Houck & Raymond H. Myers
- 1792-1802 Optimal Workload Allocation in Open Networks of Multiserver Queues
by Joel M. Calabrese
- 1803-1818 A Branch-and-Bound Procedure for the Multiple Resource-Constrained Project Scheduling Problem
by Erik Demeulemeester & Willy Herroelen
- 1819-1826 Note---Modeling Coordination in Organizations and Markets
by Neil B. Niman
1992, Volume 38, Issue 11
- 1525-1528 Introduction to the Focused Issue on Financial Modeling
by Stavros A. Zenios (Editor of the Focused Issue) & William T. Ziemba (Editor of the Focused Issue)
- 1529-1542 The Capital Asset Pricing Model with Diverse Holding Periods
by Haim Levy & Paul A. Samuelson
- 1543-1561 The CAPM and the Calendar: Empirical Anomalies and the Risk-Return Relationship
by Charles Bram Cadsby
- 1562-1585 Growth Versus Security in Dynamic Investment Analysis
by L. C. MacLean & W. T. Ziemba & G. Blazenko
- 1586-1609 Daily Stock Market Volatility: 1928--1989
by Andrew L. Turner & Eric J. Weigel
- 1610-1641 The Pricing of Japanese Equity Warrants
by Hiroto Kuwahara & Terry A. Marsh
- 1642-1664 Stochastic Network Programming for Financial Planning Problems
by John M. Mulvey & Hercules Vladimirou
- 1665-1685 Complete Prepayment Models for Mortgage-Backed Securities
by Pan Kang & Stavros A. Zenios
1992, Volume 38, Issue 10
- 1371-1393 Estimating Loyalty and Switching with an Application to the Automobile Market
by Patrick S. McCarthy & P. K. Kannan & Radha Chandrasekharan & Gordon P. Wright
- 1394-1414 Rule-Based Forecasting: Development and Validation of an Expert Systems Approach to Combining Time Series Extrapolations
by Fred Collopy & J. Scott Armstrong
- 1415-1431 Multivariate Batch Means and Control Variates
by Wei-Ning Yang & Barry L. Nelson
- 1432-1444 Improving Monte Carlo Efficiency by Increasing Variance
by G. S. Fishman & V. G. Kulkarni
- 1445-1466 Top Team Deterioration as Part of the Downward Spiral of Large Corporate Bankruptcies
by Donald C. Hambrick & Richard A. D'Aveni
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February 3, 2009, 08:05 PM
Would a 1oz magazine base pad be legal for IDPA?
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February 3, 2009, 08:56 PM
I read through the 2005 rule book carefully and, while I can find a definition of a weighted magazine in the definitions at the end, the only prohibition I can find is
The following modifications are NOT ALLOWED IN ANY
DIVISION unless otherwise specifically mentioned...
B. Add-on weights for a competitive advantage (this includes,
but is not limited to, weighted magazines, tungsten guide rods,
brass magazine wells, weighted grips).
I think it would be allowed as long as the base pad doesn't add more than 1 oz of weight to the magazine and you don't exceed the Stock Service Pistol (39 oz) or Enhanced Service Pistol (43 oz) weight limit for the pistol with an unloaded magazine.
I haven't had any trouble with the 1/4" thick Pachmyer pads. I haven't weighed them, but I believe they are around 1/2 oz. I use them so I don't pinch my palm when doing a reload.
I've seen longer plastic ones, and they probably don't weigh more than 1 oz, but that's a guess.
So, if you have a pistol that weighs 39 oz (like a steel Commander), you could be in trouble if you add a 1 oz base pad, unless you shoot it in the Enhanced Service Pistol division, which permits up to 43 oz total weight.
Hk Dan
February 4, 2009, 11:36 AM
Not legal. Nothing about weight limits, weighted mags are a specific exclusion.
The following modifications are not allowed in any of the above-listed equipment divisions:
Compensators of any type, including hybrid or ported barrels.
Add-on weights for a competitive advantage. This includes, but is not limited to weighted magazines or grips, tungsten guide rods, and brass magazine wells or grip plugs.
Heavy and/or cone style barrels without a barrel bushing (Exception: Permitted in ESP & CDP divisions only if the barrel is factory-issue and is 4.2" or shorter).
Sights of non-standard configuration (e.g. Ghost rings, Bo-Mar rib, red-dot sights, laser-grips, etc.).
Disconnection or disabling of any safety device on any gun.
Lights mounted on guns.
February 4, 2009, 01:36 PM
Okay Dan I got that...
Weighted magazines are a no no.
But (here's the rub) pg82 if IDPA rule book defines a weighted magazine as one weighing over 1oz more than stock. By their definition a 1oz base plate is legal.
So tell me why I can't use them please.
February 5, 2009, 01:29 AM
From the definitions at the end of the rules,
Weighted Magazine: Any magazine that weighs more than one
(1) ounce over the weight of a factory standard magazine for the
specific pistol in question.
So the typical thin rubber base pads (like the ones shown on a 1911 in the correct type of holster photos) should be OK as they aren't heavy enough to be considered a competitive advantage.
I intend to check with the guys that shoot at Kent the next opportunity I get, but I'm pretty sure there is no concern about these, provided they are thin and light (meaning 1/4" of rubber, not 1/4" of brass.)
If the intent was no base pads at all, a weighted magazine would simply be defined as one weighing more than a factory standard magazine. Instead, you're allowed 1 oz...
February 5, 2009, 06:51 AM
Why would the material matter? Is there any reason Brass or aluminum would not be allowed if it is less than 1oz? By the IDPA definition 1 oz metal basepad (or any other material) would be fine.
Am I missing something here?
February 5, 2009, 08:17 AM
He's saying a brass base pad would weigh more than a rubber one of the same size.
Adding a rubber or plastic base pad to a 1911 magazine will just make it look like any of the Chip McCormick, Wilson, etc., etc. mags that 1000s of folks use in competition every week. I've never seen, nor heard of, any MD asking to weigh someone's magazines just because they had a "normal" looking base pad on them. I'd bet that, depending on how many holes are cut in the tube of the mag and a number of other items, various commercially available magazines may be somewhere around 1 oz. heavier than a GI mag. I've never considered weighing one.
If you found the biggest possible basepad you could fit in the box, made of metal, it would look suspiciously like a "weighted" mag. I'd probably raise an eyebrow and maybe consider making a judgement call against it. If it's just an average plastic mag bump pad like everyone uses -- no worries.
Do you have a specific one in mind you'd like to use? Give us a link and we'll give you a better answer.
February 5, 2009, 08:21 AM
No particular pad in mind.
I'm not talking 1911.
I am asking can anyone tell me why I cannot put a metal base pad on a Glock, Sig, HK, Beretta, etc...???
If I can't please explain why.
February 5, 2009, 11:45 PM
It looks like you'd be o.k. It *may* violate some of the spirit of the rule (no added weights for competitive advantage, etc.) but if it stays under 1 oz. over the weight of a factory magazine then you are o.k.
It may be difficult to make something like that. One ounce isn't much metal. It is probably easier to build a 1 oz. plastic base pad that works and is durable (these get dropped on hard floors A LOT) than to build an aluminum one or brass one that will hold up and not be more than 1 oz. And, if you show up at a match and have noticeably different-looking base pads made of metal, I'd be mighty tempted to ask you for a weight check because it might very well APPEAR that you're attempting something unsportsmanlike.
However, if you could show me that a factory mag from your gun is within 1 oz. of the weight of your modified mag, I'd certainly let you shoot with it.
Why the interest? Did an SO or MD disqualify you from a match because of this? Or has someone told you they are specifically illegal?
Might want to post this question here: http://idpaforum.yuku.com/
February 6, 2009, 07:30 AM
There are brass base plates out there that weigh 1oz now. I was thinking about buying some and drilling an extra hole in the bottom to remove a little extra weight to ensure that even with dirt, crud, +10 magazine springs, etc…in them they would still not weigh more than 1oz over stock.
I see that Wilson Combat even offers base plates for the 1911 pistol made out of a couple kinds of metal which are fine for competition as long as they are under the 1oz weight limit. Now everyone knows a 1911 runs faster than a Glock otherwise the time requirements for moving up a class in CDP would be more than SSP or ESP rather than less. Now if a 1911 can utilize this advantage why couldn't anyone else?
The reason I am interested in doing this is because sometimes the Glock magazines will slowly crawl out of the magwell during a slide lock reload. Especially after a little sand or dirt has found its way inside. Being plastic on plastic they drop out considerably slower than any metal magazine I have encountered. Now I have tried sanding my magazines with a little emery paper to smooth them out and using a little Armor All on the magazines and the inside of the magwell but that tends to suck in more dirt and kinda defeats the purpose.
In a match just like real life if I have an empty magazine in my pistol it needs to be out of that gun as quickly as possible. I hate wasting time pulling out a magazine that's stuck just as I would hate to catch a round in the neck because the magazine won't drop free. One could even argue it's a reliability issue.
I have looked at this from every angle I could think of before doing it and am looking for feedback as to why this may violate any rule in any way. I haven't been able to come up with a reason I can't and every SO I have asked about this has said they can't see a reason why I couldn't but they aren't sure they would without more input.
If anybody can see any reason this would not be a good idea or why this may be a violation of any rule I would love to hear your thoughts/opinion.
Jim Watson
February 6, 2009, 08:43 AM
You have obviously concluded that a .9 oz base "pad" would be within the letter of the rule book. OK, I never was much for those vague and wooly "spirit of the game" things, anyhow; rules should be clear.
But I will warn you that if you show up with a big brass plate on the bottom of a Glock, you WILL be questioned by the ignorant and envious. Even an RO. Be sure to have the rule book along with the definition of "weighted magazine" marked. Proving that YOUR magazine is within an ounce of a standard magazine is an exercise left to the student.
February 6, 2009, 09:06 AM
Jim, you hit what I was thinking exactly. Sure, if it's legal, it's legal.
But expect to have to prove it, 'cause it won't LOOK legal and the idea of it is going to make some folks' blood pressure rise.
The spirit of the rule is: no mags should be weighted to make them drop free faster. The letter of the rule is written that -- to ensure no one would make such a modification, but also to allow for variety and inconsistency in manufacture of magazines -- we will define a "non-weighted" mag as anything that doesn't exceed the weight of a factory mag by 1 oz. If MecGar's plastic is a little thicker than ProMag's and so they weigh 0.5 oz. more, we don't need to worry about that. That's not quite the same thing as saying "go ahead and add up to 0.99 oz. to all your mags."
So, you are stating that your reason for doing this violates the spirit of the rule. And you are stating that your method won't violate the letter of the rule.
Be prepared to prove that, but I think it would be hard to disqualify you if you could prove it.
Now, if an MD calls you on it, better just stick to the "they don't exceed the weight limit" answer - period. If you admit to an MD that you are weighting your mags you're going to put him in a bit of an ethical conflict. Some will toss you "on principle." Some will let it go. As I said, I'd let you use them (I think) but this is one of those that I'm glad doesn't come up in my world very often.
P.S. - And, no, 1911s get no special pass on this, either.
February 6, 2009, 10:31 AM
The above replies and good feedback and I appreciate your opinions but they raise a few new questions.
1) Why would it be up to the competitor to have a copy of the rule book handy and explain the rule to the SO? Don't all members get the same rule book? Isn't it the SO's responsibility to understand said rule book just as it is the shooters responsibility to follow the rules in the rule book?
2) I am using a magazine well in ESP and anyone that has used one knows that because of the recess in the bottom of a magwell a base plate of some sort is needed to insure the magazine seats completely. Now how is it in violation of the "spirit of the rule" to decide to use 1 base pad material over another? For that matter how is it in violation of the "spirit of the rule" to add the weight for no reason at all other than someone wants to.
3) Sam/Jim, If you drive your car at 55mph because that is the speed limit would you accept a ticket for driving 55 because the officer felt your driving wasn't within the spirit of the law? What is the difference?
4) At what point did the black and white printed rules in the book become open for individual interoperation because something doesn't "look" legal? I always kinda thought it either was legal or it wasn't legal and if it's not legal than by all means I would never do it but I refuse to take other peoples blood pressure into consideration when I put together a pistol for me to use.
5) Sam, You think you'd let me use them? That's nice of you. If you were by chance to decide you weren't going to let me use them what would your reasoning be?
6) Where in any of the above threads does it mention a "special pass" for a 1911 or any other type of gun?
Thanks again for your input.
February 6, 2009, 11:50 AM
Look dhfenno, I'm not trying to argue with you, o.k? Maybe I'm reading more into your text than is there, but if you're looking to have a fight about this, the floor is yours...I'm done. I also have no authority with IDPA (beyond being an SO and MD of my local club) and can only read the book, same as you. You have asked for an interpretation. If it was black and white, in your mind even, you wouldn't have needed to ask.
Anyway, to your points:
1) The rule book is there for everyone. If you want to dispute a call some SO has made, it is there to back you up. Is that your "repsonsbility?" Well, yes -- as a participant in the sport, you should be up on the rules. If you don't think you should have to be able to defend your decisions based on those rules, then don't dispute the judgements of SOs and MDs. I guess. Those guys have the same book as you, but human interpretation of written text can differ -- and even basic reading comprehension can fail us all from time to time. It is always good to be conversant with your "rights" under any set of rules. Additionally, you are asking about doing something out of the norm. Something that, by the very way you've explained it, is intended to circumvent the stated reasoning of the rule. If you're going to play on the edge like that, you'd be wise to be prepared to defend your decision. Seems logical to me.
2) It is a violation of the spirit of the rule because YOU SAID you wanted to use a different material so that the mags would be heavier. The rule says DON'T add weight to your mags. I've already said if you keep it within the 1 oz. limit it seems that it should be permissable -- regardless of why you do it. I didn't say wanting to add weight to your mags makes you a bad person or violates some ethical standard. I said it violates the expressed language of the rule. And it does.
3) A cop may decide your driving is unsafe and write you a ticket for any number of reasons -- regardless of the posted speed. (Too fast for weather conditions, aggressive, etc.) But the law says don't exceed 55 mph. It doesn't get into your reasoning for doing so. Comparing apples to oranges. And, (once more) regardless of intent - if you're within the speed limit (or the weight limit in this case) you aren't going to get nailed for it. And if you do, you can point to the rule book (law) and get your day in court.
4/5) The book is black and white. The rule says don't add weight. Mags may be up to one ounce heavier than factory mags. As Jim said, you may choose to interpret this as, "Add weight up to 0.99999 oz." if you want.
The book also says, in Competition Rule C2, "Competitors will refrain from ... the use of illegal equipment, which, in the opinion of the match director, tends to make a travesty of IDPA." Did you catch that "in the opinion of the Match Director" part? Guess what? If a MD looks at your0.99999 oz. base pads and says, "you're adding weight to your mags and that, in my opinion, violates the spirit of the rule, even though they aren't technically over the allowable limit. You're DQ'd," he's within his rights as MD. Good luck barking up the chain of command to get his decision overruled. That's why I suggested you stay non-confrontational and keep your reasoning to yourself. 99% of MDs are probably going to say, if it makes weight, I'm ok with it. That's your que to drop the issue.
6) Sorry, you had mentioned that you see these for 1911s in the catalogs. I just wanted to point out that the platform doesn't matter.
I still think if you want an answer you can print out and carry with you to argue the point with your local MDs, you'll need to get it from HQ, in writing.
Another good example of how, when someone feels the need to point out how "black and white" a situation is, that's a tip off that it really ISN'T. :rolleyes:
Jim Watson
February 6, 2009, 12:07 PM
Sorry, dhfenno, if you want to live on the edge, you have to account for human nature. Want to ballast your magazines, be prepared to defend it.
I still think if you want an answer you can print out and carry with you to argue the point with your local MDs, you'll need to get it from HQ, in writing.
Darned right.
I carried an official opinion with me to the effect that I was within the rules to have sawn a 6" revolver off to 5". Then they reduced the barrel length to 4" so I had to have it sawn off again, but by that time, cutting the barrel was a listed allowable modification.
I also carried a letter from my chiropractor that my kneepads were a prescribed medical appliance.
If you try to do anything unusual, even if within the letter of the law, be prepared to defend your practices. That is just the way it is.
February 6, 2009, 01:07 PM
I would think that a weighted magazine would be an overweight magazine (more than one once) from factory weight.
A magazine pad has many variables, weight, height, material, thickness all there for a reason.
Bad issue is just to use a Glock as an example. You have more than one type of a magazine with 8 weights for the 17/34. You would have 4 generations of magazines, then the 10 round and standard capacity times it 4 more. Then you can add one more thing aftermarket magazines and I need to give special mention to the metal ones. What this would equal is an issue of getting a good weight and I can't ever recall a scale out to weigh a gun let alone a magazine. Now that would be the places I have shot.
I just dont see a call on a heavier pad that is less than 1 ounce.
Hk Dan
February 6, 2009, 02:40 PM
I stand corrected.
Man I hate their rule book.
February 6, 2009, 02:57 PM
From the Not allowed list
B. Add-on weights for a competitive advantage (this includes,
but is not limited to, weighted magazines, tungsten guide rods,
brass magazine wells, weighted grips).
"Base pad" isn't used as you could just put a brass shim below the spring to accomplish the same thing with the stock base pad. You are good to go under 1oz
February 6, 2009, 06:16 PM
Okay here's the word from Robert Ray on 2-6-09 at 3:20pm EST.
1) On weighted magazines: If you wish to add up 1oz of weight to your stock magazine there is nothing in the current rule book (this will change) that makes it illegal. That is up to the MD's discretion at to if you're trying to skirt the intent of the rule. Robert said "It's not illegal according to the rule book but I am not going to give you a definitive answer but leave that to the MD".
2) On brass magazine floor plates: Once again there is nothing in the current rulebook making this illegal but it is being left up to the MD.
3) On floor plates made of aluminum or steel: They are fine to use as long as they do not add more than 1oz to the stock weight of the magazine. Because of the nature of the game and the amount of abuse magazines used for IDPA can take ("especially if you're shooting over gravel or concrete I have no problem with someone using a floor plate made of aluminum or steel") adding a floor plate to protect the magazines is fine as long as it's not brass. Feelings are that brass is used to add weight to the gun where other metals are used to protect the magazines.
and off the previously discussed subject but a question I asked while I had Robert on the phone regarding magazine wells.
4) Any magazine well that uses a brass plug to retain it in the frame of the pistol is illegal.
This question came up for me when I was looking at magazine wells for a Glock and wanted a Dawson ICE magwell. When I asked the Dawson rep if they made one for the Glock that was secured to the frame with anything but a brass plug they said no. So unless they have changed the way their magazine wells are secured to the frame of Glocks they are not legal for IDPA. When I asked Dawson (about 5 months back) even the lightweight aluminum model was secured to the frame in a Glock using a brass plug.
February 6, 2009, 06:25 PM
Thank you for taking the time to contact Robert. And for filling us all in. Now we know the official word.
Well...until the next revision! :D
Generic Name
February 7, 2009, 08:49 AM
I shot matches at an indoor range that had loose rules on all that stuff. Their attitude was go ahead and knock yourself out as long as you weren't winning the match every week. If you wanted to use an eleven round magazine on your Colt Officer's model they didn't mind. We were a casual group though, we were in it for the fun, not the glory.
February 7, 2009, 11:42 AM
We were a casual group though, we were in it for the fun, not the glory.
Generic brings up an important point: In local club matches it's at the discretion of the MD to determine how strictly equipment rules will be enforced. I've never shot a club match where there was an equipment check -- no weighing of anything, no holster check, no chrono, etc. If someone wants to shoot something that's obviously out of the rules (like a 5-6" revolver, or a .32 Auto or whatever) then they can shoot but we might not post their scores in the match results. If they've got a holster or other gear that I don't think makes the cut, I'll discuss it with them but not DQ them.
But I also want to make sure that a newer shooter who's got some not-quite-legal gear understands what isn't kosher about it and why. I'd hate to have them sign up (and pay for) a sanctioned match and show up with gear that gets them sent home. Yes, they should read and understand the rules, but I'd feel a little responsible, too, if I hadn't helped them get squared away when I had the chance.
February 8, 2009, 12:15 PM
Would you please post a copy of the rule book you are using so we can all use it? I have scoured the Internet and the only rule book for IDPA I can find is the one on their website.
"In local club matches it's at the discretion of the MD to determine how strictly equipment rules will be enforced."
Did someone tell you this or did you come up with this idea?
You do realize don't you that the IDPA rule book states the opposite don't you?
February 8, 2009, 03:22 PM
Dhfenno, again with the 'tude? If you want to have a civil conversation I'm all for it. If you are looking for an opportunity to practice your sarcasm and thump your chest, have fun shouting in an empty room.
I'm sure you are a sincere, pleasant guy in person. Try to let that seep through in your on-line presence, too, ok?
I really am baffled as to how I've confused you (or offended you) so much. Do you shoot many matches? Are you used to having all of your equipment checked at each match? It is up to the MD to set up and run any and all equipment checks. Or none. 90% of matches I attend have no formal equipment checks at all. The MD has decided not to be a stickler on equipment rules for that match -- in fact, he's not even looking. (Yeah, if it's an egregious violation, and he happens to notice it, he may toss your scores. Or he may say "It's a club match - let it go.")
Even at sanctioned matches where there are often more extensive equipment checks, I've STILL never shot at one where the MD checked EVERYTHING, or even MOST things mentioned in the book. That includes being on staff at Nationals. Here's the most important sanctioned match of the year and the question of which equipment rules to enforce is STILL up to the discretion of the MD.
At a local/club level match, there will be differences between how MDs enforce the equipment rules. Period. That's just the way it is. And that's just fine. The club level is the training ground -- the starting point for every new competitor. Few new shooters are going to have the perfect IDPA set-up when they show up the first time. Or maybe even for the first year. Equipment is expensive and getting folks involved is more important that making sure that every holster comes up far enough up on the slide - or that the new guy who brought a 5" 625 gets sent home and told to not return until he's bought a 4" one. Safety must be ensured at all times. Most of the other stuff can be negotiable. These folks aren't going to be competing in sanctioned matches with their out-of-spec gear, but the occasional allowance made at the club level doesn't offend my sensibilities.
Do you suspect that I'm advocating letting the local ringer shoot illegal equipment so he can get his name at the top of the score sheet match after match. That's a travesty of the game and, at the discretion of the MD, his scores wouldn't count and he'd be told to get his kit squared up with the rules or face a DQ at the next match. But what about some guy who's just gotten his CCW permit/license and wants to come out to shoot the monthly club match, but his carry gun is a Walther PPK in .380. Am I going to DQ him? He!! no. He's welcomed with open arms. If he enjoys it, seeks to become competitive, and wants his scores to count in the future, he'll have to get his equipment in line. But each situation is going to be different -- it's up to the MD to make these calls.
To quote myself (quoting the book) from just a few posts above: Competition Rule C2, "Competitors will refrain from ... the use of illegal equipment, which, in the opinion of the match director, tends to make a travesty of IDPA." Did you catch that "in the opinion of the Match Director" part? Is the competitor making a travesty of the sport? Or is he a new guy trying to test the waters? That's a judgment call. (Is that mag base pad made of metal for durability or are you trying to add weight so they drop free faster? -- Sound familiar?)
And you spoke to Robert Ray a few days ago. Remember his words and the implications of them:
That is up to the MD's discretion at to if you're trying to skirt the intent of the rule. Robert said "It's not illegal according to the rule book but I am not going to give you a definitive answer but leave that to the MD".
And you scoured the book? How did you miss this?
The MD is an IDPA certified SO who is in charge of every aspect of a match. The MD has the final say on ALL match issues and his decision is final. There is no arbitration. The MD should feel free to confer with the AC at any time; however, the final decision on all match issues belongs to the MD.
What else is there to say?
The way you're stating things (and perhaps the way I've expanded on them here) makes it sound like we throw the rules to the wind and do whatever we feel like. Truth is, judgment calls like this come up very rarely. As I've said before, I try to run a tight, consistent, by-the-book match.
While you've never shot with me (that I know of) you seem to not like the way I do things -- or see things at least. Sorry. If this is important to you, join a club, become their MD, and run things the way you feel they should be run. I'm sure you'll give it your heartfelt best and do a fine job. I try very hard to do the same.
February 8, 2009, 03:57 PM
I'm not confused or offended by anything you have done or said so don't take things personally.
Yes I've shot many matches. I've also RO'd matches and been the MD.You?
Rulebook under Requirements for club affiliation item 8 states "Clubs must follow IDPA rules and principals"
I fail to see where this is open to interpretation.
You brought up turning away shooters for illegal equipment which I wouldn't do either. I will let you shoot anything you want. I simply will not call it IDPA. Call it happy fun time gun shoot if you want but if you're not playing the game with the correct equipment you're playing a different game.
I'm sure that you've SO'd your fair share on matches and seem to have a working understanding of the rule book. There are a few things that have been said that are a bit off and I would hate for an inexperienced shooter come across erroneous information out here and think it's okay and what they are doing is correct.
I sure hope the new rule book clears up some of these questions.
February 8, 2009, 04:06 PM
I'm not confused or offended by anything you have done or said so don't take things personally.
Yes I've shot many matches. I've also RO'd matches and been the MD.You?
Rulebook under Requirements for club affiliation item 8 states "Clubs must follow IDPA rules and principals"
I fail to see where this is open to interpretation.
You brought up turning away shooters for illegal equipment which I wouldn't do either. I will let you shoot anything you want. I simply will not call it IDPA. Call it happy fun time gun shoot if you want but if you're not playing the game with the correct equipment you're playing a different game.
I'm sure that you've SO'd your fair share on matches and seem to have a working understanding of the rule book. There are a few things that have been said that are a bit off and I would hate for an inexperienced shooter come across erroneous information out here and think it's okay and what they are doing is correct.
I sure hope the new rule book clears up some of these questions.
February 12, 2009, 03:16 PM
Yep. This really makes you want to run out and join an IDPA club.
The travesty of IDPA? The rule book, and things like "failure to do right."
No offense meant to any member, though. Just an outsider looking in.
February 20, 2009, 08:42 AM
I am an outsider looking in as well and am only offering an observation...
We have people like this at my club. They feel that the only way they can win is by pushing the equipment rules to the very edge. I've noticed that it is usually the career MM class shooters that still think the key to winning is based on the gun and not the shooter. I may be wrong in this case...
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