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Lead Bidder Offers $1.9 Million for El Vocero Newspaper
Puerto Rico's El Vocero newspaper could soon get a new owner that would preserve its voice on the 3.6 million-resident island.
A trustee in charge of the newspaper's bankruptcy case has proposed to hold a public auction on Nov. 22. Documents filed with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Old San Juan show that the newspaper already has a $1.9 million offer from an investor group that would continue to operate the paper, which publishes columns by Ricky Rosselló, a rumored aspiring political candidate whose political advocacy group is pushing for the island to become a U.S. state.
Challenging offers will have to start at $2 million, according to court papers. And under the latest auction rules, pretty much anyone can bid.
Earlier in the case, bankruptcy attorneys who hadn't yet turned over the newspaper's case to the trustee proposed restrictions that would have blocked offers from the politically powerful Ferre family that controls the competing El Nuevo Dia newspaper. The restrictions were meant to prevent the Ferre family from either shutting it down or creating "an illegal monopoly," according to earlier court papers.
"Should El Vocero disappear, it would essentially mean that Puerto Rico would be receiving its news from only one daily newspaper, certainly not something that anyone desires," the newspaper's attorneys had said in earlier court papers.
Prior to the newspaper's bankruptcy, its officials approached potential investors to consider purchasing the paper, including former New York Daily News co-owner Mr. Fred Drasner and the investment firm behind Puerto Rico's Channel 5 television station.
The trustee who's handling the public auction said that the newspaper's sale needs to be finalized by Nov. 30 to avoid a shutdown, according to court papers.
Attorneys put El Vocero into bankruptcy on Sept. 20 after more than a decade of struggles. In court papers, newspaper officials blamed universal challenges that face the print media industry: declining advertising revenue and increasing paper and ink costs.
Last year, El Vocero became a free newspaper–a strategy that increased circulation to about 160,000 readers, according to court papers. But the newspaper has stopped using the industry's formal circulation auditing process, which caused advertising agencies to shy away.
Advertising revenues have dropped about 20% every year since the audits ended, according to court papers.
Founded in 1974, El Vocero grew to reach its circulation peak in the early 1990s with about 270,000 daily editions before financial troubles hit. By the time that El Vocero's founding editor Gaspar Roca died in 2007, the newspaper was behind on its tax bill and hadn't been paying its paper supplier on time, according to court papers.
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On Thursday, International Data Corporation (IDC) came out with its 2014 First Quarter Worldwide Quarterly Tablet Tracker and shed some light on the ongoing trends in the global tablet market. The figures reported by the data giant, though not very encouraging, were strong enough to bring smile on the faces of some tablet manufacturers, but Apple (NASDAQ:AAPL), forcing us to think if this particular consumer electronic space is getting sour for the tech giant. Let's take a look at what's going on.
1Q14 Figures Suggest Sluggish Growth
During the first quarter of 2014, global tablet shipments reached 50.4 million units, up from 48.6 million units of the prior year period, translating into a decent 3.9% jump. But, this also denotes a sequential drop of 35.7% compared to the fourth quarter of 2013, primarily because the shipments of the previous quarter were pushed up greatly by the consumer spending habits during the holiday season.
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Despite the 3.9% increase in quarterly shipments, industry experts and analysts are not happy and they feel the growth momentum of the space is gradually slowing down. The major reason for the loss of pace is the growth in the large-screen smartphones. Consumers are increasingly opting for smartphones with screen sizes above 5 inches as they feel that's a better substitute of tablets, being easier to carry. Even the consumer spending nature is changing as more and more people are holding on to their existing tablets for a time period longer than estimated. As a result of this repeat sales is going down, automatically pulling down the momentum.
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Though the global tablet market is not in the best of its health, some players have been able to report fantastic numbers resulting in more worries for the iPad maker. While the Cupertino giant continued to rule the segment, it lost a substantial chunk of its market to the South Korean giant Samsung (SSNLF), who seems to be picking up pace. Apple shipped a total of 16.4 million iPads during the period, resulting in a drop of 16.1% year-on-year (YoY). With this drop, Apple's market share also dropped YoY from 40.2% to just 32.5%.
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Who are the parents of John BASSETT born Madron, Cornwall circia 1788 - 1790?
Hopefully somebody can help - There has been a fair amount of confusion around who the parents of my John Bassett who was born in England and died in Victoria, Australia. I would value any help that could help me (and other descendants) get over this brick wall. I've tried to lay out the logic of my conclusion so that others might be able to show me where I'm wrong or perhpas an altervative way of approaching the same problem
Sandra from down under in Australia
When was John Bassett Snr Born?
On John Bassett's death certificate (died in Eaglehawk) in 1868 his age was 80 (birthdate would then be 1788)
In the 1841 census he was listed as being aged 50 born possibly in 1787-91
In the 1851 census he was listed as being aged 60 born possibly born in 1791
In the 1861 census he was listed as being aged 70 born possibly born in 1791
On his death certificate is states that was 80 years old when he died in 1868 which would have made his birth date 1788
From the above evidence it would seem that John Basset was probably born between 1788 and 1790.
Possible Candidates for the position of our John Bassett
John Bassett christened 27 March 1788, St Izzey, Cornwall his parents were William Bassett and Mary Symons. This John Bassett however died 7th Oct 1851 in Fairwater House, Taunton Somerset. John was a lunatic confined to Fairwater House Lunaic Asylum for many years admitted July 1828 having previously been a patient at a similar establishment near Tauton, Fivehead House since 25 Oct 1822. This was a wholesale move and transfer of licence from the one to the other asylum by the same surgeon/owner. Private patient. Cause of death peritonitis and effusion in the chest (Somerset RO 1/5/87)
John Bassett christened 5 September 1790, Madron, Cornwall Unfortunately only one parent is given, the father, to a William Bassett according to the Madron Parish records see below http://madronparishrecords.tripod.com/id24.html
"5 Sep 1790 John s/o William Bassett, pauper at Madron"
This could be MY John Bassett however on his death certificate it stated that John Bassett's parents were farmers (which may or may not be accurate), if his parents were farmers it is unlikely they would have been listed as paupers on his christening record.
Any one got any ideas?
Looking for the parents of William LOVELL, Compton Martin, Somerset, England
William LOVELL, born possbily between 1806 and 1807 in Compton Martin, Somerset, England
William married Mary.
Mary was born about 1801 in Chillcott,Somerset, England
They had seven children:
1. Ann, born about 1826 in Compton Martin, Somerset,England
2. William, born about 1826 in Middlesex, England, United Kingdom
3. Francis, born about 1829 in East Acton, Middlesex, England(Francis married Hannah. Hannah was born about 1836 in East Acton, Middlesex, England, United Kingdom. They had five children: Edward Francis, Emily, Albert, Walter and Louisa.)
4. Mary, , born about 1834 in Middlesex, England, United Kingdom
5. Elizabeth, , born about 1838 in Compton Martin,Somerset, England
6. James, , born about 1840 in Compton Martin, Somerset,England, UK
7. William, .born about 1844 in Compton Martin, Somerset, England, UK
Hannah BOGIE born circia 1827 in Scotland who married John MILLIGAN in KIRKCALDY, FIFESHIRE, SCOTLAND
I am looking for information on a Hannah Bogie born cirica 1828 possibly in Kirkcaldy, Fifeshire, Scotland who married a John Milligan according to the IGI on 30 Oct 1846 in Dysart, Fife, Scotland.
I have found a Hannah Ropper Boggie who was born 05 AUG 1828 and christened on the 24 AUG 1828 in Dysart, Fife, Scotland and child of DAVID BOGGIE & ISABEL FYFE but I 'm not sure if she is the same person. I think I have found the family in West Gallatown North Side, Dysart in the 1841 Scottish Census; which would have been close to where my Hannah would have been born and got married.
Any information would be most helpful.
Looking for John MILLIGAN in Scotland
John Milligan born in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland in 1827
In 1861 he lived in Dawell Brae, Dunbar, East Lothian, Scotland his wife and children and was running a grocer shop.
By 1871 and till after 1881 he was living in Duddingston Midlothian Scotland and was a spitit merchant.
He married Hannah but may have another wife before Hannah called Margaret but I am not sure
Hannah maiden name unknown was born about 1828 in Kirkcaldy, Fifeshire, Scotland
John appears to have died between 1881 and 1891, although this has not been confirmed as the Scotish census does not give the maritial status of the people listed in the house hold, however John was not present and his wife was living with her daughter Margaret's family.
Children of John are:-
1. Alex Milligan born about 1849 in Haddington, Haddingtonshire possibly the son of the first wife Margaret
Children of John & Hannah appear to be:-
2. Isabella Milligan born about 1854 in Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland
3. Margaret Milligan born about 1857 in Dunbar, Haddingtonshire, Scotland
4. Robert J C Milligan born about 1860 in Dumbar, East Lothian, Scotland
5. Hannah Milligan born about 1862 in Dunbar, East Lothian, Scotland
6. Elizabeth Milligan born about 1865 in Drummore, Midlothian, Scotland
Two Thomas CRUMPs came from England to Australia - almost a case of mistaken identity
When doing research for my illusive Crump Ancestors, I thought I had finally located my mysterious x3gr Grandfather alas after considerable delving I discovered that he couldn't have be mine. Close but not close enough.
Both Thomas Crumps came to Australia around the early 1840s,
Thomas Crump(1) my ancestor
Thomas Crump(2) the guy who I originally thought might have been my ancestor -Thomas Crump(1)
Both Thomas' were born in in the early between 1800s, within 3 years of each other.
Thomas Crump(1) c1815
Thomas Crump(2) 1818
Both Thomas' were out of general English population by early 1840s:-
Thomas Crump(1) according to his death certificate he had been in Victoria Australia for 32 years before he died, making his arrival date to Victoria in 1842
*the first positive record of Thomas in the Port Phillip District and was found in the 1845/46, in the LaTrobe Ward of the Melbourne Rate Books. He was the owner of a 4 roomed house with a Kitchen, Stable and Yard.
*There has been some speculation that may have immigrated on the Marquis of Hasting on 11 Oct 1840. arrived Sydney 4 February 1841 under Captain T.A Carr left Plymouth 11/10/1840, however nothing has been confirmed yet)
Thomas Crump(2) was convicted at the Central Criminal Court on 19/10/1840 of Larceny: Stealing a roll of flannel at the age of 22 and was sentenced to 7 years. He spent 1 year, 5 months on a Hulk. Before he was transported to Tasmania in Australia on the Candahar left Portsmouth on the on the 17/3/1842 and arrived in Van Demons Land on 21 July 1842
My original thought was that it could be possible that possible that Thomas Crump(1) & (2) were the same person and that Thomas had been convicted in England and transported to Van Demon's Land and then somehow traveled to Victoria were he married my 3x great grandmother Selina Wheeler.
Thomas Crump(2) married Lydia Johnson and they were married on the 6 April 1846 (Yr 1846, Reg#2321) in Hobart. This is still consistent with the possibility that Thomas (1) & (2) were the same person as on Thomas Crump(1)'s death certificate it stated that details of his first wife were unknown, therefore when Thomas (1) remarried in 30 Dec 1850 in Melbourne, I initially thought that Lydia Johnson may have died between 1847 and 1850, making Selina Wheeler his second wife.
It wasn't until I found that Thomas Crump(2) died in 1866 according to an inquest held in Hobart on 7 Nov 1866, was accidentally killed, that I knew he could not be my Thomas(1) who did died until 1874 in Victoria, Australia.
In Summary
Thomas Crump(2)
Birth c 1818, his native place of origin was listed as Bethnal Green, London
Thomas was convicted at the Central Criminal Court on 19/10/1840 of Larceny: Stealing a roll of flannel at the age of 22 and was sentenced to 7 years.
He spent 1 year, 5 months on a Hulk. In the records only one family was mentioned an uncle whose name was John.
He was transport to Tasmania on the Candahar left Portsmouth on the on the 17/3/1842 and arrived in Van Demons Land on 21 July 1842
August 1842 he spent his probation in a Station gang for seven months at Lovely Banks, which is north of Hobart on what is now known as the Midlands Highway.
He then moved to the Prisoner's Barracks where on the 19/5/1843 he was found to be neglecting his work and as punishment he was given 6 days solitary & then on the 17/6/1843 in the Probation Prisoners' Barracks where once again he neglected his work as punishment he was given two months hard labor on the roads presumably near Browns River.
He returned to the Prisoner's Barracks on and onto various work assignments in Sandy Bay, Hobart, & Bridgewater and then back to Hobart where on 4/11/1844 in Abbott, Hobart he was charged with misconduct in resisting a constable in the execution of his duty he was put in solitary for 14 days.
He was granted permission to marry Lydia Johnson and they were married on the 6 April 1846 (Yr 1846, Reg#2321) in Hobart.
Together they had 6 children
Thomas Henry Crump born 12 Dec 1846 (Yr1846, reg#2857)
John Walter Crump Born9 Oct 1848 (Yr1848, reg#3285) (died 22/11/1897)
1. Lucy Lydia Crump born 14 Apr 1851 (Yr1851, reg#3842)
2. Eliza Crump born 4 May 1853 (Yr 1853, reg#1853) (died 4/5/1853)
3. Eliza Crump born 3 May 1853 (Yr 1853, Reg#2249)
4. William Crump born 6 Apr 1854 (Yr1854, reg#4340)
He received his first ticket of freedom on the 7/7/1846 and his Free Certificate on the 19/10/1847
Inquest held on body in Hobart on 7 Nov 1866, verdict accidentally killed. Crime report 11 January 1867
Thomas Crump(1)
In contrast my ancestor Thomas Crump was born in 1815 - , Kent, England and died in 13 Apr 1874 Hawthorn, Victoria, Australia. Immigrated: arriving in Victoria in, 1842. according to his death certificate. He married twice, details of his first wife are unknown.
His second wife however was Selina Wheeler (Abt 1834 - 24 Jul 1899) married on 30 Dec 1850 in Melbourne, , Victoria, Australia
their children were:
1. William Crump (1851-1866)
2. Theophilus Crump (1853-1930)
3. Albert Crump (Abt 1855- )
4. Walter Crump (Abt 1862-1923)
5. Christina Crump (Abt 1864-1882)
6. Thomas Crump (1866-1948)
I have not yet been able to find any reference to any of Thomas' family of origin making it very hard to go back any further.
Still looking for the puzzle pieces
Isabella Munro nee Jennings born in India died in Australia
Isabella Munro nee Jennings born in India died in Australia
Isabella was born 26 Dec 1837 in Maharashta, Bombay, India and christened on 14 Jan 1838 according to her birth certificate. Her father George Jennings was a Gunner Artillery (presumably in the India or British armies, I am not sure which) and her mother was Catherine. We think Catherine's surname may have been Jacob this has yet to be confirmed. married Alexander Andrew Munro aka Palmer(29 Sep 1826 - 13 Nov 1901) on: 28 Apr 1853 - St. Andrew Church, Bombay, India. Alexander was born in Falkirk, Stirlingshire, Scotland and Alexander had 12 Children:
1. Blanche Angelina Louisa Munro (1857-1920)
2. James Palmer Munro (1858-1920)
3. Ruth Isabelle Munro (1860- )
4. Andrew George Munro (1861-1958)
5. Mary Ann (Minnie?) Munro (1863-1945)
6. Caroline Munro (1864-1968)
7. Margaret Jane (Maggie) Munro (1866-1895)
8. Catherine Eva Munro (1869-1950)
9. Francis William (Frank) Munro (1871-1960)
10. Sammuel Jennings Munro (1873-1945)
11. Isabel Mary "May" Munro (1876-1943)
12. Phoebe Munro (1878-Bef 1938)
The first 8 of the children were born in India, the last four were born in Australia.
Isabella died Nov 1938 - 8 Greeves Street, Fitzroy, , Victoria, Australia and was burred on the 14 Nov 1938 - Melbourne General Cemetery, College Crescent, Parkville, Victoria, Australia at the age of 104.
Interested in making contact with fellow researchers and family.
Hezekiah Bennetts from Perron, Cornwall to Australia first to Chewton and then to Clifton Hill, Victoria, Australia
Hezekiah Bennetts who was born c 1818 in Perron, Cornwall, England, son of Philip and Nancy Bennetts.
His first wife, Mary Nance1805 - died on 15 Aug 1878 in Chewton, where she is also burried. They were in 1839, Perranzabube, Cornwall, England.
He married his second wife almost 6 months later, Mary Bullus born c1808 - died 22 Mar 1895. Mary Bullus also died in Chewton and was also burried in the Chewton cemetery, she was 10 years Hezekiah's senior.
Hezekiah Children from his first marriage
1. Mary Bennetts (Cal 1840- )
2. Unknown Bennetts ( - )
3. Mary Jane Bennetts (Est 1842-Bef 1878)
4. Nancy Bennetts(Est 1842-Bef 1900)
5. Rebecka Bennetts (Est 1849-1912) who married Joshua Jackaon 3 Jul 1869 Chewton, Victoria, Australia
6. Mary Anne Bennetts (Est 1852-Bef 1878)
I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has a connection with this family, Hezekiah Bennetts IS my 3xgreat grandfather.
Descendants of Thomas Wheeler, Gloucestershire, England
Thomas Wheeler
On his son Reuben's death certificate his fathers was given as as William. However although WHEELER is a common enough Gloucestershire name, there is a Reuben WHEELER bapt Bisley Gloucestershire on the 12 Nov 18 02, therefore I feel that Thomas is likely to be correct name)
Thomas married Hannah Eagles on the 11 Nov 1800, in Bisley Parish, Glouchestershire, England, UK
Children of Thomas Wheeler and Hannah Eagles
At present I have only identified one child, my direct ancestor, there are possibly more yet to be found
Reuben Wheeler b. 1801, Gloucestershire, England, UK, c.14 Nov 1802, Bisley Parish, Glouchestershire, England died 19 Jul 1873, Napolean Street, Collingwood, Victoria, Australia, buried 28 Jul 1873, Boroondara Cemetery, Kew, Victoria, Australia
Reuben married Elizabeth Thomasb. 1802, Gloucestershire, England, UK, c. 28 Jul 1804, Pitchcombe Gloucestershire,England on the 27 Jan 1833, Pitchcombe, Gloucestershire, England
Elizabeth died 9 Jul 1871, Napolean Street, Collingwood, Victoria, Australia, and was burried.on the 12 Jul 1871 in Boroondara Cemetery, Kew, Victoria, Australia, par. Edward Thomas and Sarah Gardiner
Grand children of Thomas Wheeler and Hannah Eagles via Reuben
1. Selina Wheeler b. Abt 1834, Stroud, Gloucestershire, England, UK, d. 24 Jul 1899, Yarra River, Kew, , Victoria, Australia, bur. 28 Jul 1899, Boroondara Cemetery, Kew, Victoria, Australia
Selina married Thomas Crump on 30 Dec 1850 in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
2-George Wheeler b. Abt 1836, Gloucestershire, England, UK, d. 16 Nov 1865, 9 Napoleon Street, East Collingwood, Victoria, Australia
George married Mary Humphrey Spear in 1853 in Victoria Australia.
Who was Thomas Crumps first wife?
Thomas Crump is my brickwall.
Thomas was born circia 1815, in Kent England. His first marriage, partiuclars of first marriage unknown according to his Australian death certificate,. was pre-1850 as this is when he married his second wife on the 30 Dec 1850 in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, Selina Wheeler, who was 19 years his junior. Thomas lived in Victoria, Australia for 32 years before he died.
It is thought that he may have imigrated to Australia on MARQUIS OF HASTINGS a private ship arriving on the 11 Oct 1841 in Botany Bay, this has yet to be verified.
I have not been able to find any record of his first marriage in Australia.
He may have been married in England before he came out to Australia. Presumably his first wife died or was deserted when he came out, as it is believed he travelled alone.
Thomas was a brickmaker, he lived and worked in and around Melbourne.
Let me know if there is a connection, I have found the Crump line a very difficult nut to crack.
John THOMAS born Tavistock, Cornwall died Eaglehawk, Victoria, Australia
There is an unusual headstone for one of my ancestors John Thomas in Eaglehawk Cemetery, Eaglehawk, Victoria, Australia.
It is unusual because it has ceramic tiles inlaid into the headstone that are quite ornate.
The headstone has three sections
The top section reads
In / loving memory / of / John Thomas / aged 70 years, / born in Devonshire, / Died at Sandhurst / May 22nd 1879 / The faith the conquers all, / And doth the mountains move, / And saves who'er on Jesus call, / And perfects them in love.
The section carved into the granite below the tiled section
Also / Maragaret Thomas / unable to read next four lines that are engraved into the granite under the tiled decorative section of the headstone
Bottom section an atached cement plaque
Greatly beloved / by their children
According to his death certificate, the informant was his son Michael Thomas he was born in Tavistock, Cornwall.(source John Thomas Death Certificate Year 1879 registration #4501)
I would like to know if it was common for people born in this region to have their headstones decorated with ceramic tiles?
I feel there must be some significance with the tiles but am not sure what it could be and would interested in other peoples thoughts or ideas on the subject?
I would also be interested in making contact with anyone connected to John Thomas and his family.


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February 11, 2012 - Harry Eagar
I am disgusted with the cowardice of my sometime colleagues in the reporting business for refusing to put the meaningful question to the bishops, Republican candidates and conservatives who are claiming Obama's would-be regulation on contraceptive medicine is an assault on religious liberty.
If no one else will state the obvious, RtO will: Not one of those people believes in religious liberty.
The RC church (though not all Catholics) has been opposed to freedom of conscience throughout its life. Every last conservative at the CPAC convention wants government to coerce you to offer public prayers to their gods.
Doubt me? Ask 'em.
On the instant issue with the bishops, my concept of freedom does not provide that your boss gets to regulate your sex behavior.
Obama's climbdown was also cowardly, and, if he had counted noses, politically foolish. As the only honest man ever to make bishop said: "It is w0rse than a crime. It is a mistake."
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Dear LE Families,
October is full of fun with exciting events happening all month! Below is an outline of important dates and reminders!
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Dear LE Families,
We would like to thank all of you for inspiring us to transition into proper lunches sooner rather than later. Eating lunch in a Quest classroom has always been a breathtaking experience, and even more so now! We would like to offer a special note of thanks to Claire Hall and Jill O'Neil for donating plates and utensils to our classroom! Everything looks lovely, as you can see 😀
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Hi there I must be missing something, hopefully just one tiny step! Since moving to 64studio 3 I have been unable to see fluidsynth in RoseGarden in the same way I could under 2.1. I'm not saying this is an issue with 3.0 as quite frankly everything else, rocks!! Most likely, noob syndrome!! When I left-click an empty track, choose "synth plugin", then go to "Instrument Parameters" and click "no synth", I used to be able to choose Fluidsynth from the drop-down list. Now I only see Oscilloscope, wsynth, xsynth, hexter and nekobee. I know I can create other instances in qsynth for each soundfont but I find the disadvantage with this is that the same set of soundfonts is used for each new rosegarden song I work on i.e. each time Qsynth opens the same soundfonts are used for each instance - sometimes I have to manually force it to find the correct soundfont by opening the channels tab - a lot of flaffing about! I'd rather use the other method. Could someone please point me in the right direction to help get Fluidsynth added as a plugin again in RG ?? Many thanks for any help! Rich
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Planning internal usability lab
We're setting up a small internal usability lab at work to use for usability testing and PET interviews. I'm planning to use 2 rooms: one for interviewer and participant and one for observer. We don't have a one-way mirror but I am intending to set up a video camera in the interviewing room to be streamed/broadcast to the observation room and screencast the laptop.
Using Morae would be my preferred route for software as I feel comfortable using it, however I would like to explore cheaper/free alternatives. Has anyone ever used any different software or have any advice on the set up I am intending to use?
Sounds exactly like my set up
I use Morae with Recorder / Observer in one room (I observe on my laptop during the test), and Observer in another room on an LED screen. Works perfectly well - I haven't ever felt the need to move to a one-way mirror, which I feel is more obtrusive than the webcam.
Can't advise on cheaper software alternatives though, sorry...
My suggestion: Bag the two-room set up and use a single room. It's much cheaper and you'll get more effective results.
Wrote about this awhile back:
Streamlining Usability Testing by Avoiding The Lab
Hahaha - I had that article running through my head but had no plan do dig it out - Thanks Jared.
Hi Jared,
I agree with your old post that you don't have to have the observation deck with all the mirrors, bells and whistles. I also think it's a great point about having the room close to the team to allow quick visits. However, I would feel very uncomfortable having observers in the room due to the effects of social facilitation (http://www.psychwiki.com/wiki/Social_Facilitation). It's funny, in that article, they even mention the experiment they did showing cockroaches with poor performance due to other roaches watching them.
I would feel more comfortable with a setup using two conference rooms and Morae. Keeps things quiet and anxiety free, and you still have the benefits of the local, low cost lab. Plus, I can't count how many times I've regretted letting stakeholders into the room because they jump out of the cone of silence to offer "help" to someone who's stuck.
Hi Bill,
Social Facilitation is always a bias in usability tests because (1) there's a moderator and (2) the participants know they are being watched or recorded. A good moderator can nulify the effects of social facilitation through simple techniques that focus the participant on the task at hand and comfort them through the process.
The same is true for any problem with observers "helping." A good moderator will train and brief the observers before hand, explaining the proper protocol and behavior.
I've personally conducted hundreds of tests with observers in the room and haven't had any issues with misbehaving observers. I've trained many moderators to work the same way.
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Hi Jared,
Yes, I completely agree that there is a degree of artificiality in conducting the normal facilitator-participant laboratory usability tests. The issue of even having moderated vs unmoderated tests has been going on for years. But IMHO there's a difference between a moderator and observer from the social facilitation context. First, the moderator is an active participant in the study. There is an understood social contract between the facilitator and the participant on how they will interact with each other. The observers only role is to watch. Their presence cannot contribute anything positive, and you're only introducing the unnecessary risk of something negative (cell phones, talking, making the participant feel uncomfortable). Social facilitation is also called the "audience effect" for a reason, after all. Because of the social contract, the facilitator couldn't really be considered part of the audience, but the observers would. Second, I would be willing to wager that the effects of social facilitation grows with the audience.
When I've facilitated sessions with observers in the room (limited to a handful of folks per session), I find the chance of interruption that you describe here (cell phones and talking) to be non-existent. In fact, that sort of behavior is exactly what happens in the *safety* of the separate room. I'm drawn to the accessibility and universality of the human experience and I have found that witnessing the session from the same room levels the playing field. I also get copious session notes from observers, which is a big plus and I think exposes a higher level of engagement. And, like Jared said, a good facilitator can neutralize the anxiety stemming from social facilitation. Doing it this way is more work (for me), but well worth it.
Participants can forget the observers are in the room while observers never forget the participants. That alone has helped me introduce and spread an enthusiasm for user centered design.
What you describe sounds to me like poor moderation and planning.
In my experience, I don't have problems with observers. In fact, they are a positive influence on the session, as the participants love to know that people are paying attention to the frustrations and delights they're experiencing.
Planning to use a second room to compensate for poor moderation and planning skills is wrong, in my opinion.
Actually, the social facilitation effects I was talking about doesn't have anything to do with moderation at all. I'll bet you could get the same effect with mannequins.
I'm thinking if you have mannequins as usability testing observers, there is something seriously wrong with your process.
I don't use mannequins in my process. Instead, I take advantage of the smart, competant team members, who, when given a little instruction and encouragement, behave respectably, turning the testing session into a fount of insights and design ideas. After all, that was the purpose of doing the test in the first place.
I didn't read the full thread, but the idea of mannequins caught my interest. Although you're not going to get much mental intelligence from a wooden dummy, however you can flush out many ideas when thinking about proximity and location of people in 3D space. Ergonomics can benefit greatly using mannequins to flush out ideas within frozen moments in time. This could be helpful, depending on what you are designing and mostly to strengthen the ideas you've already developed on paper. But nothing is better than the use of live mannequins (real people) in usability testing.
On Jan 9, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Jared M. Spool wrote:
> I'm thinking if you have mannequins as usability testing observers, there is something seriously wrong with your process. > > I don't use mannequins in my process. Instead, I take advantage of the smart, competant team members, who, when given a little instruction and encouragement, behave respectably, turning the testing session into a fount of insights and design ideas. After all, that was the purpose of doing the test in the first place.
This is an interesting discussion and one that I've debated for a few decades with colleagues as well. Some additional thoughts here.
1. In these discussions, there is often an underlying assumption that the observers in the same room can see what is going on as an individual (or in the case of co-participation, two people) work together. I've seen some labs where the observers are looking at a large screen at an angle where the participant can see the screen or without turning a lot, the observers. In a very few cases, there was also an overhead camera that showed the person's use of the mouse and keyboard which for some tasks, might also be important. So, a question, - for those who have observers in the same room as the participant, what have you done to allow the participants to clearly see what the user is doing or do you depend on the "thinking-aloud" as the source for feedback from the user? One issue that might affect how successful people are would be the physical arrangement of the observers with respect to the viewing angle of the participant.
2. One thing that there seems to be agreement on is that observers need some kind of training so they know how to behave in a way that doesn't unduly influence the study. This training could also apply to observers who are in the same room in focus groups, interviews, etc. I've put together a set of rules for observers where some rules apply whether they are observing remotely using something like GoToMeeting or Morae or another collaboration tool or observing in the same room. Even remote viewing should consider things like derogatory comments and the use of names or other personally identifiable information outside the viewing room. The notes that I've put together about observing participants includes things like: quesion-asking protocol, verbal and non-verbal behaviors that might influence the participant, how do deal with the participant's leaving, introductions of the observers, the role of the observers, etc. So one best practice would be to train observers in proper behavior, remind observers who don't exhibit proper behaviors, and reminders each time there is a session (since observing usability tests is often a rare event). After a study, the facilitator might, apart from discussing the results, provide feedback on how well the observers did.
3. How large should the observation group be in face-to-face testing if you choose the observe-in-the-room approach? I have often included another person, the "notetaker" in sessions and had the person sit behind the person and out of general sight. The role is clear and again there are some rules for interaction between the 3 parties. How do things differ when the group size grows larger. I've mellowed some over the years and would consider it OK for a small and well-trained group of observers in the same room, but I would feel uncomfortable with more than a few people.
4. The type of "testing" can be a factor in the choice to have observers (and the moderator as well) in the same room. There are some studies that I would call "participatory design" where you would include both users and stakeholders (still with some pretty explicit rules of interaction). 5. The skill of the moderator might influence whether observers in the same room would be effective. A person who is just learning how to moderate (something that is often considered easy when in fact, I think that it takes years to become truly proficient) might be influenced more by observers than the participant. I don't recall a discussion of the impact of observers on the moderator, but that is something to consider.
6. There is a good discussion of when the moderator should be in the room or not in Dumas & Loring (2008, chapter 9). The chapter deals with a number of issues about the "choice of arrangement". This chapter focuses mostly on the moderator but some of the considerations also apply to observers.
7. While there have been many anecdotes thrown around in this thread and volumns of research in social psychology about both social facilitation and social inhibition, I dug back into the usability testing literature and didn't find too much. There was a study in the HFES journal by Barker and Biers (1994) that examined the impact of one-way mirrors and cameras and in that study, the researchers found that the presence of equipment did not have an impact on the performance of the participants or ratings of usability. In my experience with many kinds of labs with mirrors and cameras, most, (though not all) participants quickly adapt.
8. In the 1980s and early 1990s, much usability testing involved a person working in a room alone with the moderator communicating by phone or intercom. One of the concerns about that type of study was an ethical consideration of power relationships - the white-coat research and his/her human guinea pig (if a participant ever uses that phrase, then I feel like I have failed my ethical obligations). The move of the moderator from the observation room to the testing room was sometimes thought to mitigate the power relationship somewhat.
9. There might be some cultural issues that dictate whether there are observers in the same room or remote. If you have a bunch of older, serious looking stakeholders watching a young person, this could be a problem. The make-up of the user group might dictate whether observers should be in the room or not.
10. While some of the discussants have noted that the presence of observers has provided many insights and has not had a demonstrable impact on the participants' feedback, I would ask if you have collected any metrics to substantiate those assumptions. For example, did you do a follow-up survey asking participants about their reactions to the observers in the room or other aspects of the session. If there is any recent research on this topic, I would love to read it.
11. Apart from the issue of observers (and/or moderator) being in the same room or not is the issue about how we do think-aloud testing in general and how thinking aloud influences the results of usability testing. There are a few studies that look at that issue. There are several studies showing that think-aloud studies produce more "problems" than studies where the participant does not think-aloud.
12. A very general issue here is what contributes to the artificiality of the situation. Compared to working on tasks at work or home, there are many things that contribute to the artificiality of usability testing. There was a move in the late 1980s to try and make usability testing less artificial by making labs less sterile and even introducing background noise. A group of observers will generally not make the situation any more realistic and there generally isn't a moderator around at home or work so we need to think about that as well. There are techniques now like letting people buy something they really want, asking people to bring in their own files, and generating tasks based on a pre-study interview, but those methods have some drawbacks as well.
Good topic, good discussion. To me, I think that a limited number of observers, with training, and led by an experienced moderator in an environment where the physical arrangement is appropriate, would be OK. But, there are some kinds of research questions where I would want the person to be working with a moderator only and yet others where I would want the person to work without observers or moderator. I support a thoughtful "it depends on the context" approach here.
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Jared M. Spool <firstname.lastname@example.com> wrote:
I'm thinking if you have mannequins as usability testing observers, there is something seriously wrong with your process.
I don't use mannequins in my process. Instead, I take advantage of the smart, competant team members, who, when given a little instruction and encouragement, behave respectably, turning the testing session into a fount of insights and design ideas. After all, that was the purpose of doing the test in the first place.
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Hi Jared -
That's a pretty funny idea, but I really feel like your missing my point. The fact is we have a lot of research proving observers in the room effects performance. Your earlier post stated that "a good moderator can nulify [sic] the effects of social facilitation". I really didn't know this was possible - can you post any citations to back this up?
You know, cutting costs is a plus too. 1 room to hire, no additional moderators required (you weren't seriously thinking you could leave them alone in that observation room, were you?).
BTW, I don't think anyone is suggesting that you outright shouldn't have a separate room - just that if it is easier/more viable to have observers in the same room that is perfectly OK and may even have some benefits in itself.
Jared, I agree that training and briefing the observers in the proper protocol generally works. However, occasionally you get the client stakeholder, usually a somewhat arrogant executive who flies in and out at will, doesn't have time to attend the briefing, and even if he or she did, would probably not bother to play by the rules anyway. When I sense the risk of this in an upcoming usability assessment, I will ensure a safe remote observation area is available.
How do you handle this situation?
By the way, the other side of the coin that I've experienced is that motivated and well-briefed observers will enthusiastically log issues and remember the participant behavior regardless of their location.
I jump in with some tech suggestions, and I did this and other setups before I had a chance to get my hands on Morae.
Morae can be expensive and I agree with Chris McLay, the networking thing can be very tedious.
One way to save on cost is Silverback or any screen capture package and do some movie editing in a package like iMovie. It's very easy to use.
As for the second room, use a dual screen with the second screen mirroring the other and get a long cable. I have used the video streaming idea.
UStream Producer is a free package you can download and have a private, one-way streaming conference to broadcast to others. The observers can also make comments and chat in the background to integrate Josie Scott's idea of anyone leaving notes.
As for comments by anyone, a chat package or even something like yammer for private short comments along a timeline for a social idea off the top of my head that anyone in the company can watch. The group feature can be utilised in Yammer for those who want to follow the stream of comments and re-use later.
I look forward to hearing how you go.
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On 10 January 2011 06:06, Paul Eisen <firstname.lastname@example.com> wrote:
Jared, I agree that training and briefing the observers in the proper protocol /generally/ works. However, occasionally you get the client stakeholder, usually a somewhat arrogant executive who flies in and out at will, doesn't have time to attend the briefing, and even if he or she did, would probably not bother to play by the rules anyway. When I sense the risk of this in an upcoming usability assessment, I will ensure a safe remote observation area is available.
How do you handle this situation?
By the way, the other side of the coin that I've experienced is that motivated and well-briefed observers will enthusiastically log issues and remember the participant behavior regardless of their location.
Hi Folks,
I was looking into the future of reading of all my essential Interaction Design books. I'm not sure where it stands today because I do not own a reading device yet. Since I'm in between living, all my books are in storage for a few months. It would make sense for me to have a reading device and have my entire library where I can access it at all times. Paying the money for storage just does not make sense as half of my storage is books, they're heavy and I have to go back and forth to get just one book. My question is... can I get all these books on these devices yet?
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Of course testing is better than no testing, but context is important.
Context, and not just Social Facilitation has a very large effect on behavior. Sabrina Mach has a presentation she did last year at Ux Brighton 2010 on how context effects behavior http://www.slideshare.net/webnographer/uxbrighton2010-howcontextaffectsbehaviour-5206261.
She started to get curious about this when she did a very large scale Remote Usability test using our tool Webnographer with over 2000 participants, and another test was carried out by a researcher visiting peoples homes. In the home visits, nearly every participant blamed themselves, in the remote study the participants blamed the software been tested. We call this the myth of self blaming user.
Before anybody starts saying that this effect is caused by poor moderation, we have done multiple studies with multiple moderators (from in house to some large well known agencies) and this pattern repeats it self.
One of the slides on the presentation about Brazilian Street kids, Sabrina expands in this blog post. http://blog.webnographer.com/2010/11/why-exams-mean-nothing-out-of-context/
All the best
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On 7 January 2011 03:42, Jared M. Spool <firstname.lastname@example.com> wrote:
Hi Bill,
Social Facilitation is always a bias in usability tests because (1) there's a moderator and (2) the participants know they are being watched or recorded. A good moderator can nulify the effects of social facilitation through simple techniques that focus the participant on the task at hand and comfort them through the process.
The same is true for any problem with observers "helping." A good moderator will train and brief the observers before hand, explaining the proper protocol and behavior.
I've personally conducted hundreds of tests with observers in the room and haven't had any issues with misbehaving observers. I've trained many moderators to work the same way.
Jared M. Spool
User Interface Engineering
510 Turnpike St., Suite 102, North Andover, MA 01845
e: firstname.lastname@example.com p: +1 978 327 5561
http://uie.com Blog: http://uie.com/brainsparks Twitter: @jmspool
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Hi Graham,
Sorry - I fired off that message without even getting to your question. I've used the Morae/two room solution with great results. There's really not much to it - it almost sets itself up. You should probably have someone to run the Observer software to take notes and make sure the system is running from the observation room. Getting the IPs talking to each other if you have DHCP can be very tricky if you don't know what you're doing as well, so make sure you have a techie there to troubleshoot if you're unsure. Also, do a dry run the day before - mandatory.
One other cheaper solution I've used is Webex as well. The advantage here is that you can broadcast the sessions right to any number of people's desks. I've used this in conjunction with Morae Observer to broadcast out the observation feed.
Hope this helps,
Hi Graham,
I would avoid a networked or streaming solution as they are slow and prone to technical problems. It's much simpler to run a long VGA cable to a second monitor, and to run a long video cable from a camera to a TV. This will give you the best resolution a speed for observation.
You can then run whatever other software you like to record screens, cameras etc, on top of this simple hardware solution.
I'll weigh in on another idea if you use Morae; the observers (clients and stakeholders) should be asked to log their own thoughts as well. Caveat: I am a UX researcher for the company that makes Morae.
This works for in-person or remote. My setup typically consists of a "lab"-based test area (really, just an office with chairs and a desk) and a conference room or meeting area in another part of the building, where Observer is projected or shown on a large screen. The keyboard and mouse are available to all. The whole team may gather to observe, although a few still log in from their desks. Either way, we ask *everyone* to make notes. I usually have a partner to help everyone feel comfortable logging and to make sure the Observer setup is running smoothly.
This technique also handles the ADD issues that Jared writes about: Now the observers are part of the action. I emphasize that their thoughts are just as important to me as my observations -- and they are. I love the comments and ideas that come from this interaction with the team and the stakeholders.
And, for the record, if I can, I use my Wii remote to capture important moments as well. When I go to Manager to analyze, my work is more than half done.
"I use my Wii remote to capture important moments"
How does the Wii work into this?
Hi all,
Thanks a lot for your comments, really helpful.
It doesn't look like we'll be going with the Morae option now as it's out of budget. My current approach to this is drawing up a usability test plan for an upcoming project and use it as a test case for the different options to see what we really need internally and what we can do without. From there I will iterate the tests applying different advice from your comments (set-up and software).
Thanks again, i'll post some updates for what worked/didn't work.
Have you thought about having the observers in the room? It can be quite fine, as long as they agree to behave themselves. Can't get 'free-er' than that. Once a user knows that they are being 'watched' it can be much less disconcerting to look those people in the eye than to wonder who's sitting in the invisible room - Spooks style.
As for recordings/analysis etc. I'd still use Morae every time I get the chance, but I've used things like Webex before for remote sessions or a webcam with a an ordinary video recording, and then analysed using an excel spreadsheet. Not nearly as pretty, but just as effective if you plan ahead.


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My first food stop in Kyoto, Japan, was in the train station. I stood in the longest line I could find and waited 20 minutes to be greeted by a person who pointed to different buttons on a box that resembled a vending machine. Not knowing what to order, she punched the buttons for me: a bowl of soup – tonkotsu ramen – and a small Sapporo beer.
As I took my seat, a man reached through an open window and placed a bowl of noodle soup in front of me as if to say, "Here you go, feeding time." The moment the noodles hit my lips and the rich, fatty pork broth soaked my tongue, I became the happiest tourist in the zoo.
This, for better or worse, has been the standard by which all other ramen experiences I have had have been compared and, until recently, it was difficult to even attempt in Ventura County.
Ramen is often associated in the States with the 10-for-a-dollar packages that college students call dinner, but in Japan it's just as serious as Vietnamese pho or Korean tang. There are a few variations of ramen that you'll find in any Japanese ramen shop — tonkotsu, shoyu and miso being kings at institutions like Daikokuya and Men Oh in Los Angeles' Little Tokyo. We'll get to these styles in a moment.
Over the years, a few Japanese restaurants have popped up offering the famous bowl of noodles in Ventura County.
Just across from Ventura High School is Gotetsu, a primarily Japanese-style skewers joint — or kushiyaki. A promising sign on the front door reads "NO SUSHI."
On the lunch and dinner menu, owner Yukari Watanabe offers miso and shoyu ramen. Miso is a fermented soy bean paste that has a pronounced, unique flavor. Watanabe uses it to construct the broth for her ramen in decorated, seemingly antique pots and pans that look as though they would be more comfortable in your grandmother's kitchen.
Watanabe adds ginger, garlic and vegetable broth to the miso and then adds the traditional noodles. (Ramen simply translates into noodles, after all.) She tops it with chashu (braised) pork, green onions and half of a soft-boiled egg.
If the noodles in Kyoto were a profound statement, the miso ramen at Gotetsu was as well. It was unsophisticated — no frills, no bells and whistles, but it didn't matter because the parts were in harmony, like a clock that ticks away reliably without calling attention to itself.
Watanabe grew up in the northern part of Tokyo, where shoyu ramen is popular — noodles with a soup made with plenty of soy sauce — and she says her shoyu ramen is the better of the two. Unlike traditional ramen shops, Watanabe uses only vegetarian broth, making it friendly for those with such a preference.
Gotetsu is like sitting at a friend's table and being served a bowl of ramen, a warm welcome home.
Japan has as many different kinds of ramen as there are barbecue in the south. On a particularly warm day in Kyoto, I stumbled into a ramen shop specializing in 15 different styles. I had the same reaction upon walking into Toki Restaurant, where over a dozen bowls of ramen are featured: a sense of overwhelmed enthusiasm. I went for the "Volcano Ramen" ($9.50), the No. 1 choice on the menu.
This soup uses a tonkotsu broth made by boiling pork bones for an extended period of time at high heat. How long? The broth at Toki had been boiled for 6 -7 hours to release the bold flavors of the bones, turning the soup into a rich, creamy white broth reminiscent of savory milk. Add to that, spicy ground pork, bean sprouts, cabbage, green onions and a drizzle of rayu, a chili-infused sesame oil, and the volcano begins to rumble.
Tonkotsu-style ramen is the variation I had in Kyoto, and Toki reminded me of such. Bold and savory and full of that Japanese sixth flavor, umami.
Toki Restaurant is the shop a college student would pop into for a quick bowl alongside tourists looking for gourmet at a bargain.
In Moorpark, there is a man working to perfect his ramen recipe, and his story is one of obsession. Tokiwa Pollakriss Samuerphak makes a tonkotsu broth over a 16-hour period, a slave to the stove.
Samuerphak, who prefers to go by Git, caught the ramen bug from a Japanese friend. His journey to ramen perfection has found him tweaking ingredients here, adding them there and sometimes going off script to put a spin on the recipe that he is constantly perfecting.
Despite some inconsistency with the noodles (on my first visit, the noodles were starchy and too chewy, but on the second they were sublime), Git's broth is undeniably delicious, and that is 90 percent of a good bowl of ramen.
Tokiwa ramen is a study in the art of the broth, a labor of love, akin to what one might be served while finding oneself in the hills surrounding Kyoto by a master-in-training.
I left Kyoto wondering when I'd return. Aside from being a gorgeous city rich in historical significance and culture, it had also become an unexpected culinary awakening, an experience I've longed to replicate ever since. The ramen in Ventura County has a certain charm to it that will have to do until the next plane ticket is purchased.


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Cereal Killers
A then unheralded singer, Childs made an exciting, exotic debut with her 1988 album, Union, which was full of such tropical pop splendors as "Stop Your Fussin" and "Don't Walk Away."
Now comes this disappointingly dull follow-up, a record nearly bereft of the colorful melodies and joint-jolting rhythms that distinguished Childs's first outing. House of Hope is built around leaden-toned manifestos about dysfunctional families, among them "Daddy's Song," about incest, and "I've Got to Go Now," the story of a woman in a physically abusive relationship finding the courage to leave.
Musically, little is of interest on this droopy, attenuated collection except the delicate, lullabylike "Heaven's Gate," the ineffably sad "Three Days" and "The Dead Are Dancing," which resembles Sting's version of a Hungarian dirge. And all of those tracks are pretty dour.
Childs still has that thrilling throat, a smoldering combination of Phoebe Snow and Marianne Faithfull that sounds like the very voice of experience. But there's nothing here to showcase it. On the contrary, a number of unsuitable songs—"Next to You" and "Put This Fire Out," for instance—take her well outside her range and reduce her to puling like an alley cat. For a woman of Childs's talent, that truly is a travesty. (A&M)
Joe Walsh
Hey, Joe. How about a new shtick? We thought you were amusing years ago with such tongue-in-cheekers as 1978's "Life's Been Good." But it sounds like you're coasting these days. Straight downhill.
Okay, the title track is a fun tribute to Everyday Joe Schmo, even if you had to tack on a line about the consistency of dog feces. Blecch! And the nonsensical "The Gamma Goochee" shows you're at least trying to have a good time. But most of these 45 minutes sound wasted on sophomoric noodlings on your guitar and old pal Joe Vitale's keyboards.
"You Might Need Somebody" is a pleasant ballad that might have popped up on your last studio effort with the Eagles. But pleasant isn't what your fans want, Joe. They want more of those tungsten-steel slide-guitar riffs and less safe, boring AOR dreck.
Remember, Joe: There's nothing wrong with being average, provided sometimes you swing for the fences. (Pyramid/Epic)
Richard Thompson
Folk-rocker and guitarist Thompson still has his unique woe-flecked voice (imagine Roxy Music's Bryan Ferry with less affectation). His other trademark is the corkscrewingly penetrative guitar solo—too few of which are on this album.
What distinguishes Rumor and Sigh (the title comes from an Archibald MacLeish poem) is that a few tracks—such as "I Feel So Good"—are perkier than Thompson's norm. And producer Mitchell Froom's arrangements, using a full palette of keyboard textures, makes the songs as cozy and sunny as a breakfast nook.
There are darker moments as well, for example, "Backlash Love Affair," which, with its ominous "Sheik of Araby" motif, sounds like music for the Casbah. Thompson can also still hunker down with heartbreak, as evidenced on such tracks as "I Misunderstood." Also worth hearing are "1952 Vincent Black Lightning," a very trad finger-picked folk number, and the reeling skiffle of "Don't Sit on My Jimmy Shands." (Capitol)
Too Much Joy
Since David Letterman's approach to talk shows resembles Too Much Joy's approach to rock, it's only appropriate to list the top 10 reasons why everyone should own Cereal Killers:
10. There are no songs on this album about saving the whales, finding God or trying to be a more sensitive guy.
9. There are songs on this album about drinking, sex and astronauts.
8. The songs have titles like "William Holden Caulfield."
7. Too Much Joy will not use their profits from the record to have plastic surgery to look more like Diana Ross.
6. This music is what rock is supposed to be—loud and rough around the edges (and in the middle, for that matter).
5. The band actually shows some signs of musical growth on their second major-label release, tossing in some honky-tonk piano ("Thanksgiving in Reno") and horns ("Sandbox").
4. Cereal Killers is proof that all those misfits in high school who used to make flatulent noises in class can eventually do something for society.
3. Lines such as "We got stoned/ We had sex/ I dreamed that I was Evel Knievel," are the perfect, which is to say dopey, rock lyrics.
2. There are no token rap songs.
1. Too Much Joy may be the subject of Kitty Kelley's next book, so it's good to get in on the ground floor. (Giant/Alias/Warner Bros.)
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Apple drops under $600; is the moon ride over for investors?
0. phoneArena 31 Oct 2012, 11:00 posted on
Back at work after a two day Hurricane Sandy-related hiatus, Nasdaq traders are dumping shares of Apple following the management shake-up with Scott Forstall and John Broweet; shares of the Cupertino tech giant are down more than 2% and have dropped under $600 a share...
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1. jmoita2 (Posts: 930; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
Just as I predicted... Get ready for a rough ride, Apple investors. Buckle up, because it's a looong way down.
6. dmckay12 (Posts: 243; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)
Predicting that a stock will go down is like me predicting what I will have for lunch (Jelly sandwich and flaming hot cheetos every day).
11. simplyj (Posts: 404; Member since: 23 Dec 2009)
I wish I had your lunch.
33. The_Innovation (Posts: 610; Member since: 18 Jul 2012)
You would die at a very young age at that rate.
51. troutsy (Posts: 311; Member since: 17 Feb 2012)
Michael: You were flying today, buddy.
Buster: Yes, I was flying. But a little too close to the sun.
53. dmckay12 (Posts: 243; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)
You would be correct if I didn't teach/do Kung Fu 9 hours a week and play hockey for at least 3 hours a week, while being on a medicine that requires weight gain.
54. dmckay12 (Posts: 243; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)
Not trying to be an ass, just saying I'll be fine.
61. The_Innovation (Posts: 610; Member since: 18 Jul 2012)
Keep up that diet, and we'll talk in 5 years.
62. dmckay12 (Posts: 243; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)
Sir, that is what I have had for lunch almost everyday for 12 years. I feel fine.
65. The_Innovation (Posts: 610; Member since: 18 Jul 2012)
60. Nadr1212 (Posts: 741; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)
I'm actually not surprised because of how much $ Apple owes to companies suing it rite now
16. Commentator (Posts: 3691; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Just as you predicted. Wow, I wish we were all as brilliant as you. You're a fantastic financial analyst. You should get together with all the other Android fanboys on this site and start an investment firm.
21. jmoita2 (Posts: 930; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
And how do you know I haven't??? Currently, I'm shorting Apple... and laughing all the way to the bank. lol
22. Commentator (Posts: 3691; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
The mere fact that you said "and how do you know that I haven't", "???", and "lol" tells me that you haven't.
27. darkkjedii (Posts: 21313; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Lmao good one. As if stocks don't rise fall, and rise. That's the nature of business...apple is fine. This holiday season will send their stock soaring, then at some point it'll fall a bit.
46. PhenomFaz (Posts: 1236; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
oh so now we need earthly stock advice from a jedi!...i'll pass thank you!
24. PhenomFaz (Posts: 1236; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
and its not on a slope...more like from the edge of a very straight cliff!
35. darkkjedii (Posts: 21313; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
47. PhenomFaz (Posts: 1236; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
troll much yet?
and you haven't answered me from the last comment....where do you shhhh from your mouth or your a$$?
52. darkkjedii (Posts: 21313; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Your mouth and what was your last ?
63. PhenomFaz (Posts: 1236; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
that doesnt even mnake sense but ey how can i count on you to make any sense?
However I'll repeat my question...you shhh a lot so where do you shhhh from - your mouth or your a$$? Reason for asking is cause I am pretty sure you laugh out of your a$$..since you use LMAO a lot...so where do you shhh from?
31. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
Not exactly. Smart investors know that you buy into stock for the long term, not the day to day. This is obviously a reaction to firing of Forstall and Browett who head two extremely important areas in Apple. I'm an iSheep and even I am a little weary of how the change will effect things. Stock prices will go up and down. I have no clue how this will turn out, but I doubt this will be the beginning of the end. All stocks were mixed today and Apple isn't exempt from that.
36. Aeires (unregistered)
Steadily declining since 21st of September, it's not just related to the recent execs being let go.
40. darkkjedii (Posts: 21313; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
It's risen and fallen since, not a steady decline like the droiders would like. Bash as u will, but apple is fine.
42. Aeires (unregistered)
Trending decline, not up and down without pattern. Anyone with any statistics background can see that over a months worth of data shows it's in decline, not just fluctuating. It's clear as day in the graph above.
Granted, anything can change, but even the Mini didn't help it get back to level or climbing status.
43. darkkjedii (Posts: 21313; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Dude hit me up when apple stock falls to 1$ a share, and they close their doors for good. Until then its not even worth arguing about.
44. Aeires (unregistered)
The why did you?
55. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
I'd rather see them BANKRUPT
64. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
You want to see them bankrupt? A lot of my friends have jobs with Apple...just because you have some immature hatred for a company, you want to see thousands of people that love what they do lose their jobs? Real mature bud...
59. jroc74 (Posts: 6005; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Gotta agree with this. See, told you there are times I agree with you....lol.
Stocks rise n fall on a daily basis. Google hasnt in a long while and havent fell alot. But its the reason why I stopped trying to play the stock market. I did sell at the right time for Zynga tho....whew.
I cant see Apple stock falling so far down that they are in trouble.
49. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Losing over 1/7th of value in one month is kind of a big deal.
67. roscuthiii (Posts: 2217; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)
Smart investors sit on stock long term if the stock pays dividends just for owning shares. Which Apple has historically declined to do. The stock market needs trades. It's a necessity. People sitting on trades just causes stagnation. Same as any economy.
A share's valuation is a moot point until it's sold/traded. Doesn't matter if you only paid $1 for a share that's now worth $1K... Mathematically, you're still at $-1/share until you do something with it because you can't "spend" a share.
41. AnTuTu (Posts: 1580; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)
Baby you are down down down down down :p
That's what I predicted couple of months back for "A 4 Apple" when Sammy announced its Note 2 :) I think its a good time for Scott to leave this company :)
56. someones4 (Posts: 625; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)
Every bubble will burst eventually. Check out tulip maia. The Apple of its day.
2. darkkjedii (Posts: 21313; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Oh lord here we go. The u know who's r gonna have a field day with this.
3. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Can we say iMaps? The manufacturing 'issues' (scratched case and what-not) didn't help, either. What is the saying - What goes up must come down?
9. MeoCao (unregistered)
It's said that Apple does not disclose iPad mini preorder numbers and that makes investors believe the numbers are not good.
18. bragzter (Posts: 52; Member since: 21 Feb 2012)
Don't think Apple has ever revealed pre order numbers, or any other company. They all say it has surpassed expectations or set record numbers. But the iPad mini steps into a market that's dominated by low cost devies from Amazon and ASUS/Google which is much better than it.
4. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
2% isnt much. It just seems big because of their stock price.
however, I've been saying the apple ride is going to end in the next year or 2 for quite a while if they didnt do a refresh of their line..
and they are proving they have no intentions of doing a true refresh.. unless you count iMaps.. lol.
5. Reluctant_Human (Posts: 886; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
The stock market is fickle and analysts/investers manipulate for their own. My rule of thumb is never trust any stock analyst, lawyer or guy giving out candy in front of his tinted van. Breaking that rule can lead to a sore ***hole.
7. robocopvn (Posts: 417; Member since: 10 Mar 2010)
When it reaches the climax, it will slowly goes down. Not only stock, but everything
28. Commentator (Posts: 3691; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Well that's the definition of the word "climax" isn't it? The problem is to determine if Apple has hit its climax yet.
8. dragonscourgex (Posts: 307; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
I doubt one day of drop spell doom for Apple. Now, if this trend keeps up over, say a month. Then maybe we will have something to laugh about.
30. Commentator (Posts: 3691; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
It has though. Apple's stock has been steadily declining since late September. Maybe if they didn't copy their competitors by making bigger phones and smaller tablets, but actually started innovating on actual usability like they had been under Stevie J they wouldn't be in this problem.
(That last part was extreme speculation on my part.)
10. lauremar (Posts: 181; Member since: 29 Feb 2012)
Beginning of The End of the Apple Kingdom...
12. husfus (Posts: 62; Member since: 21 Oct 2012)
At last investors have realized that $700 for a rotten apple is irrelevant
13. infinitemethod (Posts: 149; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)
This is what happens when start making the exact same device over all platforms. Not to mention their stale, out of date OS.
14. Aeires (unregistered)
I'm wondering what the tipping point is, that point where it drops to a certain value that causes people to abandon ship over fear of losing their investment. Most likely it's a much lower value than it is, but stocks are like herds, when spooked they all stampede in one direction.
When the iPad Mini was announced, AAPL dropped almost $10 in less than two minutes when they announced the pricing. Regardless of being sold out (of how many units?), the Mini did not cause their stocks to go up like previous new models have. Even refreshed models did better for AAPL than the Mini did.
And the shopping season is going to be brutal this year. Not only is Android hot, Samsung has found a solid stride and MS is getting their stride. Apple will make a lot of money, just doubt it's going to be like previous years.
15. MartyK (Posts: 819; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)
When you spend tons of money on Lawyers and tons of money on Marketing, and a few dollars on research (looking to see who you can sue); yea it's safe to say your stocks will fall.
You don't need to be an investor/stock analyst/rocket scientist to figure this one out.
17. ilia1986 (unregistered)
The end of evil is nigh. :D
19. PhoneCritic (Posts: 691; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
Its just the cycle. Nothing , and we all know this, last forever. As I stated before Microsoft had it day. Intel had its day. Xerox had its Day, Nokia had its day, RIM had its Day, IBM had its day, Cisco had its day, so Now Apple has had its day and it is starting to fade . Who's turn is it now ? Samsung will have its time then Google. They to will fade as the next innovative company emerges. Maybe your company maybe mines who knows?
20. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Yes, but lest hope that the next company which will "have it's day" won't be as greedy and corrupted as Apple.
29. darkkjedii (Posts: 21313; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
His company is apple dude. He just hides it now.
23. McLTE (Posts: 822; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Apple's stock went up.. OMGZ!!!! They will reach 1000!!!!
Apple's stock went down.. OMGZZZZ!!! the ride is over!!!! your phone will be useless in 3 days!
Seriously, this is rediculous.. I'm getting so tired of reading these "reports" as the are all just speculative knee jerk reactions.
If Apple's stock continues to slide after a month.. 2 months.. then we could be on to something.
25. toiletcleaner (Posts: 224; Member since: 10 Oct 2012)
wen Apple saw he was losing costumer VS Google, they hurry up and announce the Ipad mini plus the new ipad. ( no the the old one, the new one. yea that one. no. no that one. anyway .... the new one ) because investors care only for $$$, and apple is full of them. google is getting little by little to the top. to the point where apple is trying all they can to stop it. but here is my message to Apple : You are to late now. Wake up
26. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
So 120 billion lost in makret cap already right since 15% has dropped since a high of 700+? What a pounding the most valuable comapny has to take amidst all the launches in less than 5 weeks. Everything is selling good, all preorders get sold out in less than 48 hrs and yet stocks crash.
32. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
that's because stocks aren't based on sales at all, but about image. Apple still has an inflated image, but some disappointment from Iphone 5 and Ipad Mini announcements have hurt.
34. The_Innovation (Posts: 610; Member since: 18 Jul 2012)
Who cares if "investors" are scared? The company is selling everything in its lineup at crazy rates. Investors might pussy out, but the company is getting richer as we speak.
37. _Bone_ (Posts: 2154; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
It's a good idea to jump ship. Say Nokia is at such a low point it can only rise with Windows 8, or jump on the LG bandwagon that puts the fear into Samsung heads.
38. yowanvista (Posts: 340; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)
The beginning of an end


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