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|Mexico: Calderón Government Monitoring Movement for Peace with Justice and Dignity Leaders
|Written by José Gil Olmos, Translation by Jim Rudolf
|Wednesday, 02 May 2012 15:15
Sicilia, Álvarez Icaza, Jusidman...On File!
Fuente: Proceso
After the Mexican government set the scene to sit down and have a "dialogue" with the Movement for Peace with Justice and Dignity (MPJD), and after President Felipe Calderón supposedly engaged with its members, now we learn that his government has files on the movement's leaders, including Javier Sicilia. This information is part of an extensive file that includes profiles with public and private data of the activists. This fact is unequivocal: It implies the existence of a net of surveillance that verges dangerously on espionage.
The government of Felipe Calderón ordered that everything about the leading figures of the MPJD be meticulously investigated, including Javier Sicilia and Emilio Álvarez Icaza, whose political and social activities, including personal data about them and their families, are recorded in official documents that are now in the hands of Proceso magazine.
The Secretariats of Governance and Public Safety have detailed profiles on: Sicilia; Álvarez Icaza, former head of the Human Rights Commission of the Federal District (CDHDF); Miguel Álvarez Gándara, president of Advisory Services for Peace (SERAPAZ); Clara Jusidman, founder of Social Development and Citizen's Initiative (INCIDE Social); Miguel Concha, founder of the Fray Francisco de Vitoria Human Rights Center; and student Raúl Romero Gallardo.
Each of the profiles includes recent photographs that link the individuals to radical movements; they even show that some have links to guerrilla groups like the Zapatista Army of National Liberation (EZLN) and the Popular Revolution Army (EPR), or that they have been their intermediaries.
The records of the MPJD members are dated September 27, 2011, and are part of a more extensive file – produced for the two Secretariats – that includes the confidential drafts of meetings with Felipe Calderón in Chapultepec Castle and the records of the meetings that took place between July and September in the four working groups on law enforcement, care for victims, revised strategy for public safety, and the participation mechanisms.
But what stands out are the profiles of the movement's leaders, with whom the authorities discussed the need to change the police-military strategy for combating organized crime.
"Deaf Poet"
The record on Javier Sicilia – where he is described as "a discrete person in his political activities" – is extensive: Thirteen pages that record personal documents and information that only he or his family could know: birth certificate, number of children, schools where he studied, passport number, religion, home address, taxpayer ID, national ID, number and address of his parents and siblings (with information on their voter documents), property (house and autos, including models and license plates) and his links to church leaders, authors, politicians, and the EZLN.
The government recognizes that Sicilia is a respected intellectual in all cultural circles, that he considers himself "a deaf poet" in that it matters little to him what others say about his "Catholic poetry," as well as that he is an environmentalist who supports the movements Guardians of the Forest of Cuernavaca, and the Civic Front for the Defense of the Casino de la Selva [Hotel].
In the section entitled "Links to the Press," it emphasizes the media that supported (or not) Genaro García Luna, federal secretary of Public Safety, whom Sicilia called on to resign in a rally in the Zócalo Plaza in Mexico City on May 8, 2011.
Those rejecting Sicilia's demand were: Carlos Marín, Ciro Gómez Leyva and Héctor Aguilar Camín, from Milenio Diario; Carlos Ramírez, from El Financiero; Eduardo Huchim and Sergio Sarmiento, from Reforma; Francisco Garfias, Ricardo Alemán, Martín Moreno and José Cárdenas, from Excélsior; Raymundo Riva Palacio, from the Atando Cabos radio program; Rafael Cardona, from José Cárdenas Informa; Gabriel Guerra, from Noticieros Televisa; and Jorge Fernández Menéndez.
Those supporting Sicilia in his call for the resignation of García Luna were: Carmen Aristegui, from MVS Noticias; Félix Fuentes, from El Universal; Jairo Calixto Albarrán, from Milenio Diario; Julio Hernández López, from La Jornada; and Miguel Ángel Granados Chapa, Manuel J. Jáuregui and Roberto Blancarte, from Reforma.
In his political profile, the file indicates that Sicilia "stands out for his strong criticism of the federal and state government," and emphasizes his questioning of the Morelos state administrations of Jorge Carrillo Olea (1994-1998) and Sergio Estrada Cajigal (2000-2006).
Regarding President Felipe Calderón, the file points out that the poet believes "that Calderón is not guilty for the violence in the country, but he is responsible for having gone to war with poor planning."
Half of the document is dedicated to monitoring Sicilia's activities after the discovery of his son's corpse on March 28, 2011. It reports on all MPJD meetings and activities every day from April to September, including those held with Calderón at Los Pinos, as well as the Caravans for Peace in the north and south; it lists the people participating in the meetings, what the demands were, excerpts from the poet's statements and the number of people who attended the demonstrations.
The file recounts the incident in Coatzacoalcos on September 18, 2011, when Sicilia's 12-person security team "was alerted to the presence of hooded men, so they stopped the march to get out of their cars, brandish their weapons and surround the vehicle carrying Javier."
The extensive confidential document points out the poet's collaborations with: Proceso magazine; the daily newspaper La Jornada; Ixtus, the magazine he managed until 2007; and its successor, Conspiratio. In addition, it includes the books he has published as well as the awards he has received.
It also records his connections to the former abbot of the Basilica of Guadalupe, Guillermo Schulenburg, and with environmentalists and politicians from the left such as Jean Robert, Pietro Ameglio, Ignacio Suárez Huape (former leader of the PRD in Morelos) and José Martínez Cruz, of the Morelos Independent Commission on Human Rights.
The Former Ombudsman
The file on Emilio Álvarez Icaza also contains his personal biography – education, parents, spouse, children, and positions he has held – as well as address, telephone numbers, national ID, taxpayer ID, voter document, and passport.
It mentions all of his publications, the decorations, awards and recognitions received since he was a student at the National Autonomous University of Mexico (UNAM) – where he graduated in sociology – up to his post as president of the Commission on Human Rights for the Federal District (CDHDF); courses taken in Mexico and abroad, his academic and professional activities, and up to his aspirations to win the presidency of the National Commission on Human Rights (CNDH) and an advisory role in the Federal Electoral Institute (IFE).
For his personal connections, the federal government classifies him as "left-leaning" as the former president of the National Center of Communication, an organization founded by his father, José Álvarez Icaza.
Among his personal and political links: Luis Nava Calvillo, national leader of the Citizen's Movement for Democracy; the late Samuel Ruiz, bishop emeritus of San Cristóbal de las Casas; and Ángel Saldaña Zamarrón, former member of the 23rd of September Communist League.
The document says: "Recognized in 2011 by NGOs, political parties, and anti-establishment groups that oppose the policies of the federal government." In 2010 he openly demonstrated in favor of abortion and reproductive rights, as well as same-sex marriage. For several years he has confronted activists of the National Action Party (PAN), who blocked his aspirations for the presidency of the CNDH in 2009.
"He sympathizes with liberation theology, and he has created works in defense of the rights of indigenous peoples," the file says.
It also indicates that, although he has the backing of some members of the PRD, other groups within the party – including those that support Andrés Manuel López Obrador – reproach him for having issued, as ombudsman in the capital in November 2006, a recommendation for the sit-in at the Reforma newspaper, which may have affected his intentions to become an advisor to the IFE.
More Personal Data
The file of Miguel Álvarez Gándara, president of SERAPAZ, is the most extensive and detailed of all the federal government's files. It gives an account of his links to guerrilla movements in Mexico and Latin America, as well as to liberation theology and European Christian Democracy.
Álvarez Gándara has been one of the leading supporters of Sicilia in the movement, principally regarding contacts and accords with social, ecclesiastic and victims' organizations. Many of the meetings are held in the offices of SERAPAZ.
"As part of his work in San Cristóbal de las Casas, he maintained close relationships with: Rafael Sebastián Guillén Vicente, leader of the EZLN; Raymundo Sánchez Barraza, director since 1989 of the Indigenous Center for Development and Integral Training; Francisco Hernández de los Santos, nephew and private secretary of Samuel Ruiz García; Alberto Székely, Carlos Fazio and Froylán López Narváez, of Proceso magazine, with whom Álvarez Gándara traveled to Chiapas on October 16, 1995; Pablo González Casanova and Óscar Oliva, with whom Álvarez Gándara met to discuss the government meetings with the EZLN; Concepción Calvillo de Nava, Elisa Cruz Rivera, Gloria Tello and Alejandro Luévano, with whom Álvarez Gándara traveled to San Cristóbal de las Casas on September 10, 1995," the document says.
It also contains a record of his trips abroad from 2006 to 2011, for example to Bolivia and Brazil; in the latter country, he participated in meetings of organizations with socialist leanings.
Another file is that of the priest Miguel Concha Malo, prior of the Dominican Preachers, founder of the Fray Francisco de Vitoria Center for Human Rights, contributor to La Jornada, and member of the MPJD.
The record for Concha contains his home and office addresses; his national ID, voter document and passport number; his secular and religious studies in Mexico, Italy and France; his recognitions in Mexico and El Salvador; and the funding he received from the Koch Foundation in the United States to support the center that he directs.
His political profile points out that he was "one of the most important spokesmen among the Dominicans of liberation theology during the 1970s." It notes that he has modified his discourse, but his criticism of injustices remains.
"The members of the National Council of Students found in 1981 in Concha Malo a person committed to the international guerrilla movement who introduced Marxist ideas into the Iberoamerican University (UIA) via the Department of Theological Sciences and the Center of University Integration," says the federal government's document.
The record contains a long list of political and social activities, including his participation in meetings of the EZLN, the Mexican Syndicate of Electricians, Citizen's Cause, the Commission to Prevent and Eradicate Violence Against Women in Ciudad Juárez, and the MPJD itself.
"He is one of the main bastions of the progressive ecclesiastic sector," the document says, and adds that he received a death threat on August 7, 1997, and his office was raided and plundered in 1999.
Clara Jusidman, another member of the group that supports and discusses the movement's strategies, has a file prepared by the federal government in which, like those already mentioned, includes personal data: education, address, properties, family, national ID and voter document.
It is noteworthy that the file includes all her activities as a government employee since 1969, when she was technical advisor for the census of the following year. She was then part of the leadership of the Research Center for Integrated Rural Development of the Secretariat of Planning and Budget (1983-1984) during the presidency of Carlos Salinas de Gortari. The file also mentions her work on the Advisory Board of the National Solidarity Program of SEDESOL, under the leadership of Luis Donaldo Colosio, and in the Technical Board of the IFE (1994), in the BID, and the UN.
It mentions her affiliation to the PRI, where she was coordinator of the Subcommittee for Rural Modernization of the CEN (1988-1994), and as a member of Civic Alliance, president of the National Accord for Democracy (1994), Group San Ángel, Citizen's Cause, and founder of INCIDE Social. But the file stresses that starting in 1996 she began to distance herself from the PRI, having been opposed in the IFE by Enrique Ibarra Pedroza, PRI representative at the time and now PRD sympathizer, and pressured by conservative groups in 1998 for supporting the law to aid HIV patients.
It cites her participation in various actions since 1999, such as: the First Congress of Social Work of the Federal District; the International Forum for Constructing Peace and Social Development in Chiapas, on November 27, 2002; as well as press conferences in 2006 in which she spoke of the need for citizen participation to resolve the post-election crisis. The file mentions her participation in the MPJD and notes that she has had differences with Sicilia, but she is considered "conciliatory and willing to negotiate."
The record of the young university student Raúl Romero Gallardo contains all personal, family and work details, and also includes his political activities since he was a student at the College of Sciences and Humanities, his participation in forums in support of the EZLN in 2009, and various activities against the militarization of the country.
The file indicates that the group "aspired to co-opt Sicilia's movement in order to strengthen and promote its particular demands of the federal government," but that "after having differences with the intellectual [Sicilia] and with the drafting committee of the National Pact, it decided to distance itself from the movement [for peace], although it left open the possibility of participating in some of the movement's activities if an event coincides with its interests."

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JERUSALEM, Israel - A ceremony on Monday dedicated the new Center for Lone Soldiers in Jerusalem, the first of its kind in the country.
Parents of St.-Sgt. Michael Levin, a 21-year-old lone soldier who was killed on August 1, 2006, in Lebanon, called the center "a dream come true."
"It's touch to turn a tragedy into triumph, but that's what we're doing here in Michael's memory, " Levin's father, Mark said.
Some 5,700 lone soldiers, without families in Israel, serve in the IDF (Israel Defense Forces).
For more than a decade, Pisgat Ze'ev resident Tziki Aud has dedicated much of his time to helping as many lone soldiers as possible.
"Tziki has been helping out soldiers by taking them out for coffee and bringing them into his home for meals, for example, but up until now it's been exclusively out of his own pocket," Cpl. Adam Margolis, an American oleh (immigrant) serving as a liaison to the UN.
"What is happening here is that all Tziki's work is becoming formalized and soldiers now have a place to head to in downtown Jerusalem instead of Tziki's house in Pisgat Ze'ev [a Jerusalem suburb], Margolis said.
The new center, open from 9 a.m. to 8 p.m., features a kitchen, comfortable sitting area, free Internet access and best of all, a place where lone soldiers can get to know one another and receive practical assistance and advice.
On Thursday and Friday, the center will also provide hot meals for the soldiers.
"We hope to give soldiers a place to come to and people who will listen to them," Aud said.
"They are serving far away from their families, and sometimes all they need is someone to talk to," he said.
Source: The Jerusalem Post
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When does it become a "Collection"?
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> When does it become a "Collection"?
December 25, 2002, 10:19 AM
A certain number of guns? A focus on a certain kind or make of gun? When you start buying guns that you really don't need or even intend to shoot much?
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nine fingers
December 25, 2002, 10:22 AM
For me it is when I need to justify them to my wife.;)
December 25, 2002, 10:27 AM
When you get a C&R and the government officially labels you a collector. For everyone else, it's an arsenal. :)
Rick R
December 25, 2002, 10:28 AM
I think of my guns as an "armory" where I can go to get tools to perform different chores. A "collection" consists of things you accumulate which are alike for a reason, and usually owned for the joy of ownership instead of for use.
I guess you could have a "collection" of one if you intend to "collect" an associated item in the future.
December 25, 2002, 10:32 AM
I think it's a point you reach in your own mind.
If the only firearm you own it he one your grandad left you, it is a collectors item to you, and thus a "collection" of one.
I have seen that some people have a theme to their collecting. Maybe military bolt actions or US weapons of WWII.
On the other hand I once visited a friend of a friend who showed me his collection that filled every bit of a large room. I looked around with wide eyes and open mouth and asked if there was a theme to his collection. His reply was "Yes, one of everything, unless I really like it, then I get more." :D
December 25, 2002, 10:36 AM
IIRC...Collection in the museum sense is used to define a grouping of exemplary artifacts which display the widest possible example of those artifacts. For firearms, that would be weapons with proveance of place of use, historical significance or intrinsic value...one of a kinds, etc.
In the burner household, collection most often refers to that pile of dirty clothes near the bed, the junk in boxes and otherwise under the stairs, etc.
My small group of weapons are referred to by individual names...
the boomstick, bucky, the duchess,
vlad, the mule, Capt. America and the smoker. All together I call them 'the kids' or 'my preciouses.':cool:
December 25, 2002, 10:37 AM
Two is a couple.
Three to five is a few.
More than a few is either an assortment or a collection, depending on when you plan to stop aquiring.
You have your modest collection
growing collection
diverse collection
well rounded collection
And last,but most desireable the complete collection
I'm shooting for a bloated and grossly overpopulated collection.
December 25, 2002, 10:55 AM
What if part of what you own is with you and another part is in a different state?
Is it a collection or just a motely bunch?
I have 3 here and, as of this morning, 39 in another place(bigger safe there).
Granted, with the variety, its a motely bunch, to me...:D
Standing Wolf
December 25, 2002, 10:55 AM
I'm not a collector. Honest. They just kind'a sort'a show up, more or less of their own free will, and devour closet and bank box space like cookies. Heck, I think some of them even reproduce when I'm not looking. I dunno where they all come fromâbut I'm definitely not a collector, I tell you!
December 25, 2002, 10:57 AM
For me it's more of an "accumulation" than a collection..
When I have to build a room to store my guns in,then it will become a "collection".. ;)
December 25, 2002, 11:05 AM
After the first revo, semi auto, shotgun, rifle, and 2nd safe, it becomes a collection. It's all about the QUANTITY & QUALITY ;)
Brian D.
December 25, 2002, 11:10 AM
I started saying that right after I bought my first gun safe, before that it was just an assortment.
Col. Mustard
December 25, 2002, 11:13 AM
I think if you've got several (or more) guns stashed away in the safe in a corner of the basement, and you never bring them out (except maybe to count them once in a while), you're hoarding them.
If you have a bunch of guns that you shoot, fondle, or otherwise appreciate on a regular basis, you're accumulating them.
A true collection, on the other hand, involves diversity and redundancy of specimens; as well as some attempt to display them.
3 gun
December 25, 2002, 11:15 AM
When you start owning things you don't need. Like your 3rd Mossy 500 12ga shotgun. Or a CZ52 which isn't legal in any class of competition you shoot in. Or how about when you just buy stuff because the price is right, you like the look, or you don't have one yet. What a great country.
December 25, 2002, 11:42 AM
If you have a bunch of guns that you shoot, fondle, or otherwise appreciate on a regular basis, you're accumulating them. Exactly, I'm an accumulator, not a collector. I have no intention of displaying them and they're all shooters. All I need now is another.41Mag, then a CQB ...
December 25, 2002, 11:49 AM
Methinks a collection is when you have more than you can carry.
A couple handguns isn't a collection, its just 'my pistol and my bug' unless of course they're too nice to carry...in which case it would be considered a collectable.
December 25, 2002, 11:57 AM
It's a collection when you buy 'em just to look at 'em. Otherwise, it's a toolbox.
2nd Amendment
December 25, 2002, 12:00 PM
Guns? What guns? I don't collect no guns... :confused: ;)
December 25, 2002, 12:01 PM
When you have more than one.
You, Tamara, are a collector!
(Come to think of it, so am I....)
Dan Morris
December 25, 2002, 12:02 PM
LOL, a tool box....gee, I bought my third tool box last month! Could be I have a problem.All are 1950's pre 64's Remintons and Smiths!
Actually, these tools are a legacy for my kiddos.......better than stocks...I'll keep a few for myself and give em to them in about 5 years.
December 25, 2002, 12:09 PM
Never intended to be. Wife asked for a guesstimate the other night, as I converted a Thomasville armoire' into an upright gun cabinet. Looks like a smidgen over 60 so far. The darned things are just like coat hangars, they breed in the darkness of the closet, when you open the door, there's even more of them! :D
December 25, 2002, 12:50 PM
Is it a collection when you can't remember how many you have?
4v50 Gary
December 25, 2002, 12:54 PM
No Nevada, that's an arsenal. :D
I'm a hoarder. I'm getting my seventh Garand soon. This means I should get two more since it needs two companions to "stack arms" with.
December 25, 2002, 12:59 PM
I think it's the point where you have so many guns that you no longer have the time to routinely use them. I don't really include guns kept for sentimental value in this category, such as an inherited gun. I'd also consider it a collection if you were attempting to obtain weapons from a specific time period, such as Civil War weapons.
So I don't really have a collection yet. All my guns are "working" guns.
Good SHooting
December 25, 2002, 01:40 PM
one is hapenstance,
two is coincidence,
3 is a collection!!!
WAIT.. that's "3 is enemy action", nevermind!
I "collect" Picassos, of course I only have ONE, but someday....
December 25, 2002, 01:57 PM
For half a century or so...
I have had an accumulation of firearms.
Often encompassing collections.
Now I have few.
But it was indeed fun.
The senior Bannerman had it all.
Arsenals, accumulations and collections.
December 25, 2002, 01:59 PM
I would like to think, that it isn't a collection until one or more of them are "collecting" dust. Mine never collect dust...at least not until now.
When I return to the states in a year or so, I will clean the dust off my guns, shoot them everyday I am home, then re-package them up for storage, and seal them back in the safe, until I return for good.
I miss my collection pretty badly, and wish that I at least had pictures of them to show, my last harddrive crash solved that for me.
December 25, 2002, 03:03 PM
It really depends. If they are bolt action and/or revolvers it is a collection. If they are semi auto rifles with pistol grips it is an arsenal owned by a "survivalist nut job". This according to a recent Discovery or TLC show I was watching.
December 25, 2002, 05:26 PM
When you show your co-workers your "gun room" and they begin to look and talk to you differently. Thats when you say its a 'collection', 'you inherited them from your uncles and father', 'most of them you have never shot', ' they are are dewatts and therefore harmless', 'They were in this secret room when you moved in and you just discovered them', "no I'm not employed by the postal service", and no you don't have to repay that money I lent you 6 months ago, RIGHT NOW! Tomorrow will do just fine.:D
December 25, 2002, 05:58 PM
It just takes one. That way when you want another your adding to the collection.
"Why do you need that one? You already have one."
"I'm adding to the collection."
December 25, 2002, 06:10 PM
I think once you get to the point the wife does not have a clue of whats all in your gun room. Works for me!:D
December 25, 2002, 06:12 PM
When I moved to the sticks I got a simple education on where people stand with what is what for firearms accumalation.
Many out here have a shotgun and a centerfire rifle and maybe a rimfire rifle, that is all. They are all hunting and working guns.
If you carry for self defense, add in a handgun of some sort.
And I figure you might as well include a back up gun as well.
The shotgun does double duty for house and grounds protection, unless you like that centerfire rifle for the job.
Beyond those numbers, you wander into accumalations that if explained half way right are really a collection of some sort.
I have working guns. The others are just a collection since I keep them around for my enjoyment.
Will Fennell
December 25, 2002, 07:23 PM
More than youcan carry=collection;)
December 25, 2002, 07:31 PM
Mine will always be a 'collection'. :D
It's the other folks who have armories.
December 25, 2002, 07:44 PM
When I got my first handgun, it was purely for home defense.
My second, some years later, was strictly for carry.
My third, fourth and fifth were because, well, I wanted them.
So I consider that my "collection" started at #3.
December 25, 2002, 07:59 PM
Mine is an arsenal, no, a collection, no, an accumulation... doh! :o
December 25, 2002, 08:09 PM
Guns .....
You mean this is a GUN forum?
Tim Burke
December 25, 2002, 08:22 PM
The strict definition is when it has a "theme."
I'd use a loose definition... when you have 2 of the same thing.
December 25, 2002, 08:26 PM
When you NEED to list them on a piece of paper that across the top includes column headings of "Handguns", "Rifles", "Shotguns", then start placing lines down the edge beginning with .17, .22, .222, .223 ... :)
December 25, 2002, 10:09 PM
It's a collection:
1) When you declare it so.
2) You have more than about 3 guns
3) When you acquire because you "want" rather than "need"
4) When you're explaining your passion to your wife because she doesn't understand otherwise.
5) When you don't want to scare others by declaring that you have an arsenal.
6) When you inherit a a bunch of guns
It isn't a collection:
1) When you say it ain't so
2) You don't have but one gun
3) You don't feel the need to justify having them to anyone.
Of course, I could be wrong............
Nathaniel Firethorn
December 25, 2002, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by Will Fennell
More than youcan carry=collection;) In that case, runt_ will never have a collection :D
- pdmoderator
December 26, 2002, 05:25 AM
I thought a collection was when they pass the hat at church.:D
Politically Incorrect
December 26, 2002, 11:28 AM
It's a collection when you are not physically able to carry all of your guns at once.
It's an arsenal when people you know say that they will head to your house in a time of crisis.
December 26, 2002, 11:54 AM
Thats a great question. A collection various from one person to another. I would say that a collection begins with the first handgun or rifle. The majority of individuals have more then just one.
December 26, 2002, 01:33 PM
My guess would be when you start buying ammo in calibers you do not own merely to justify the subsequent firearm purchase.
December 26, 2002, 02:53 PM
... when you start buying ammo in calibers you do not own ... How about when you find a holster you like and then order a gun to fit it. BTDT
Jeff OTMG
December 26, 2002, 08:26 PM
It is only a collection if you buy specific firearms that you don't intend to shoot. If you are like me and buy just about everything in sight then go out and shoot it, you could not possibly be considered a collector.
December 26, 2002, 08:43 PM
When you have so much that you are actually almost bored at a gun show!
December 26, 2002, 09:00 PM
When you've bought #3 of a model, having forgotten that you've already bought #2 as "backup".
When you have to start an Excel spreadsheet so that you can list them all and sort them the way you want.
December 26, 2002, 09:07 PM
My "collection" is puny compared to what Tamara has, and a bunch of other folks here. (I consider it my "small but growing collection.")
But it's finally grown large enough that tonight I sat down and catalogued each firearm and its serial number, along with other info, like how many magazines I have for gun, when I acquired it, etc.
So my question to you folks with "real" collections: What information do you keep on your firearms?
George Hill
December 26, 2002, 09:38 PM
To quote 1776:
"One useless man is disgrace. Two become a lawfirm... and Three or more become a Congress!"
Taking things in that context:
1 gun is a weapon. Two, gives you a backup... and three or more give you a Collection.
Or an Armory as the case may be. :D
rock jock
December 26, 2002, 10:16 PM
When you start buying guns that you really don't need or even intend to shoot much?
That's it.
December 26, 2002, 10:29 PM
I guess I have a collection. But I think the word conjures images of redundant rifles. If you have more than 3 .308 rifles, more than 5 1911s or more than 10 of any brand of rifle.
Also, lots of military stuff would make you a collector in my book.
December 26, 2002, 10:37 PM
I guess I have an "accumulation". However within that accumulation are two "collections": Smith wheelguns (a dozen or so) and old milsurp bolt rifles (nine).
Nathaniel Firethorn
December 27, 2002, 07:05 PM
Have you ever reached into your Gun Safe or Gun Locker and pulled out something you totaly forgot that you owned? I believe that qualifies ;)
- pdmoderator
December 27, 2002, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by Will Fennell
More than youcan carry=collection;)
Hell, I've got more than my truck can carry! :D
December 28, 2002, 04:20 AM
Originally posted by Hkmp5sd
When you get a C&R and the government officially labels you a collector. For everyone else, it's an arsenal. :)
YeP, with a type 03 (C&R) FFL, you are a bonafide collector :), else it's generally called an arsenal and the media will label you a wacko or nut.
December 30, 2002, 01:33 AM
I guess it depends on where you live. If you live in AZ, it would take 50 or more weapons. If you lived in Kali or say DC , I guess 2 would do.
So, I guess I don't have a collection.
December 30, 2002, 06:07 AM
Gee.. and here I thought when you had more than one it was a dangerous arsenal? At least that's what I read in the paper.http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/roundeyes.gif
Kahr carrier
January 3, 2003, 05:23 AM
Anything over 10 guns .:neener:
January 3, 2003, 02:13 PM
..,but I vote for "when you have guns you don't shoot much, if at all, and don't intend to .":scrutiny:
January 3, 2003, 03:20 PM
and on and on. Mosins in one safe, USA in another safe, English, Swiss in another, domestic sporting arms in another. The French and Italian are just stacked in the closet because nobody will steal them. Yeah, I have a collection and an accumulation....chris3
January 3, 2003, 06:39 PM
It's an arsenal when people you know say that they will head to your house in a time of crisis.
I guess mines an arsenal. I've been told by several guns owning friends they're comming to me in a SHTF situtation.
A collection is also what I have. Atleast that's how I get new guns past the wife. Those old mil surp rifles at gun show are to hard to pass up.
January 4, 2003, 03:43 PM
In my opinion three or more guns that have something important in common can be called the "start of a collection." Positive examples:
- A Mauser G98, a Springfield 1903 and an SMLE - WW1 service rifles.
- An M1 Garand, a No.4 Mk.I and a K98 - WW2 service rifles
- A 1911, a P38 and a High Power - WW2 service pistols.
- A Glocks out of 26, 19, 17, 34 and 17L - 9mm Glocks.
Negative examples:
- A Swedish Mauser M96, an Enfield No.4 and an AR-15 - different countries, times and actions.
- A Luger 08, a BHP and an HK P7 - as above.
Al Thompson
January 4, 2003, 04:45 PM
Bog babe, I like to keep track of SNs, amount paid for the gun, modifications and accessories.
Several good friends track rounds shot, but I'm just not that detail oriented.
January 5, 2003, 12:14 AM
My collection (such as it is) is currently based on two central themes:
(1) collecting an example of each basic action and selected calibers (for example, in rifles - bolt action, lever action, pump, semi-auto; 308, 227, 357, etc.)
(2) getting today what I probably won't be able to buy in California tomorrow. :mad:
Later on, I'll concentrate on weapons of a particular era, probably WWI.
Mostly for insurance purposes, I keep track of make, type, serial number, magazines and major accessories. I also make and keep digital pics of each.
January 5, 2003, 10:10 AM
I ain't no collector! http://users.telenet.be/eforum/emoticons/happy/050.gif
Dangit Ma, we got to get this gun safe outa here I cain't get to the coffee pot!:uhoh:
January 5, 2003, 11:17 AM
When you can charge admission. :D
January 5, 2003, 11:44 AM
It all depends on who is doing the defining. Ten guns to some could be called a collection, albeit a pretty small one. But get your ten gun collection depicted on the evening news and you have an 'arsenal' :banghead:
January 5, 2003, 12:40 PM
Yours is not a collection. It's an Armory.:what:
Uncle Ethan
January 5, 2003, 02:01 PM
I don't count or put a label on my weapons. Every weapon I have bought I "needed" at the time. Liberals don't count or pay attention to the number of insults they speak, labels they apply to those they disagree with, or anti-constitutional laws they want to enact- I don't count or pay attention to the number of weapons I may need to protect my rights.
January 5, 2003, 02:07 PM
When you make sure you own at least a couple more than your age! I like getting older!:D
January 5, 2003, 02:54 PM
When you get a C&R and the government officially labels you a collector. For everyone else, it's an arsenal.
That is why I got mine.
January 5, 2003, 03:36 PM
Cool thread,
Man, am I envious of you folks with over 50 weapons! My passions are too varied for such a er, collection. :cool: Jay Leno calls his 100+ vehicles a collection, but runs 'em all. I hope to continue to add weapons each year for fun, but wanted to begin with all the basics. A carry pistol, full size pistol, combat shotgun, combat carbine and long range rifle.
I'll call it a collection when I add five more for SAS competition, heh. But if I won the lottery, .22 - .50 of every kind, heh.
March 12, 2007, 08:11 PM
Its Not A Rule,Is More A Personal Point Of View.And Its Determined By The Owner If Is A Collection Or Whatever It Is.
Mr White
March 12, 2007, 08:51 PM
Its a collectoin if you have more than 1, or if you're talkin to fence sitters or uppity-type people. Otherwise they're just called 'some guns'.
March 13, 2007, 10:03 AM
On that sad day, the day that you stop shooting them.:(
March 13, 2007, 11:11 AM
I would say you are starting a collection when you have all the main bases covered and then keep adding out of want rather than need.
For some people here adding firearms one after another is a sickness, these poor people just can't help themselves from buying more and more and there is no help group for them. I just thank my lucky stars that I have never contracted this sickness and that I have been able to stay in control of my hobby, you see I can stop whenever I want,,,,,,
I mean I would still need to pick up the 3 more I have coming but after that I could stop,,,,,,,
and I did see this one gun that someone posted a few days ago and I just have to find one like it,,,,,
and there are a few new ones that come out every year but after that no problem ,,,
I could stop then,,,, I know I could then,, though it would be silly to stop then when I would be so close to having them all and I HAVE TO HAVE THEM ALL,,,,,, umm,, you guys agree right??
My modest Collection (http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=464805)
March 13, 2007, 11:16 AM
"HI, I'm Gixerman, and I have a problem."
C'mon, Gix, you can do it. :neener:
Mr White
March 13, 2007, 11:24 AM
Bulls**t, Gixerman! I've seen the pictures you post.
The only thing that's gonna stop you from buying more guns is the same thing that'll stop you from shooting them, eating and breathing...
The Eternal Nap!
March 13, 2007, 01:20 PM
I don't consider myself a collector as I don't actually collect,as in seek out to own,any particular firearm.Actually,I've only been into guns since 04 after having not even handled one in ~ 8 years.In that time span,I've ended up with 21 handguns ( the only ones that could construe in a loose sense a collection would be 5 SIG's) and ~ 21-23 longarms.I don't need that many and have threatened to sell some of them off but I always read that you'll regret it more later.:scrutiny:
March 13, 2007, 01:57 PM
When you get a C&R and the government officially labels you a collector.
I is a "collector" now. :neener:
Before last week, I was just a guy with a few guns. :evil:
March 13, 2007, 02:00 PM
When you're done. :D
March 13, 2007, 03:23 PM
... From accumulator to collector. It was when I picked up a Polish P64, hated the DA trigger pull, and bought it anyway. It's not a fun gun to shoot. The only reason I have it, is that it's a Cold War-era Eastern Bloc gun in 9x18mm. I still want to find a Wanad P83. Learned about CZ82s, and got one. Having broken the .380 barrier with a Kel-Tec, I'm now in the market for a Carpati.
Bazooka Joe71
March 13, 2007, 04:00 PM
I don't collect guns.....
They follow me home, and I adopt them.:D
March 13, 2007, 04:10 PM
I own alot of firearms.
I have a "collection" of 3 HK P7s
I also have a "collection" of 5 m1911s
March 13, 2007, 04:28 PM
Wow old thread, but great theme. Tamara and I have had discussions on what constitutes "collecting". I think I fall into that catagory now. As was mentioned a couple of posts back, I know the exact time when the transition happened..... Colts were getting more expensive, I loved them, and certainly didn't need any more.... hence I started collecting, but within the bounds of a theme for the most part. I still buy stuff that would not qualify for part of the collection; I shoot those.
March 13, 2007, 04:30 PM
Bazooka -
Happens to me too :D
March 13, 2007, 05:29 PM
I think that it became collecting for me when I had all the guns I needed for personal and home defense, for fun and entertainment and for any sort of hunting in the lower 48. Then I could start collecting guns I wanted.
March 13, 2007, 05:35 PM
For some people here adding firearms one after another is a sickness, these poor people just cant help themselves from buying more and more and there is no help group for them. I just thank my lucky stars that I have never contracted this sickness and that I have been able to stay in control of my hobby, you see I can stop whenever I want,,,,,,
Oh Lord, do I know that feeling. It comes on you about the third Delta Elite or when you find a S&W 4506 to go alongside the 1006's (note the "s") just 'cause you ought to have one of those too...
March 13, 2007, 06:38 PM
LOL, a tool box....gee, I bought my third tool box last month! Could be I have a problem.All are 1950's pre 64's Remintons and Smiths!
Actually, these tools are a legacy for my kiddos.......better than stocks...I'll keep a few for myself and give em to them in about 5 years.
Hey dad. Remember me? I almost gave up finding you.:D Thank God I found you. Please PM me for shipping address.
March 13, 2007, 10:15 PM
When you have to ask, you are not yet a collector.:D
March 13, 2007, 10:51 PM
When the wife says........
"Get all these God D**mn guns out of here so I can clean!"
March 14, 2007, 06:10 PM
How to tell an arsenal from a collection (assuming they are mutually exclusive, not the soundest of assumptions):
1. How many guns do you own? (If you know the answer, it is not a collection)
2. So go to your safe and count them. (No safe? It is not a collection)
3. Go to the gun section of your home library and count the number of gun books. No library in your house? You NEED a few liberal friends! No gun book section? No gun books? A few books, but you can count them on one hand (and they are all about reloading)? It is not a collection.
4. If the ratio of guns to books is better than 4:1 then you are on your way to having a collection. If you own more gun books than guns, your liberal friends are under an obligation to not only approve of your hobby, but go shooting with you. They really want to anyway, but how could they hold their heads up with their other friends unless they can say, "Well, he is a collector, you should see his library, some of the specimens we shot were over a hundred years old." Your conservative friends without books are knuckle dragging Neanderthals (offer them a bath, take them shooting, and try to educate them).
5. Failing the above, if you actually look for and buy gun books (extra points for looking for specific gun books) then you are at least making an effort toward having a collection.
But more to the point, the distinction between a collection and an arsenal depends not so much on the count of the cache of weaponry, but in how that assemblage is perceived, not just by the owner, but more particularly by the rest of the world. A true collector must cultivate an attitude that lets the great unwashed know, however subtly and condescendingly, that they are in the presence of a connoisseur. To plagiarize shamelessly from a Penultimate collector who, on another board, shared some insight on the distinction between the gun nut and the collector:
I would in general agree that it is a cultivated aroma, a dash of pretense, a certain savoir faire, that ultimately comes to distinguish the collector from a mere gun nut. But defining that certain je ne sais quoi that characterizes a collector takes a lot of words and still will be a mere cartoon that pales in comparison to the real thing.
If the goal is distinction, I suggest that reliance upon negative inference is both simpler and more sure. Just as ordering red wine with Dover sole, wearing a regimental tie with Harris tweed, or white sox with other than tennis attire (or putting catsup on anything) are sure signs of ill breeding, I believe that my "more than one truck gun" hypotheses is reliable proof that one is not a collector.
Since the only practical goal of a collector seems to be to become recognized as a collector by other collectors, I remind you that most people have long memories resistant to new impressions. In keeping with the old adage "It is better to remain silent and thought a fool than speak and remove all doubt," to me this means that the aspiring collector should first and foremost avoid the kind of social gaffe that causes him to be labeled as an uncultured gun nut amongst the collector crowd. As to the wisdom of joining this cadre, I can only point to Groucho Marx: "I would not want to be a member of any club that would have me."
Gun nuts have arsenals; collectors have specimens.
And a final word: Once you have a collection, the rest of the world truly is unwashed. While another collector can fully appreciate a collection, you need to have a few simple arms that will impress the masses. A post 1950s S&W revolver collection has merit, but most people will see it as only a stash of handguns. If you are into modern guns, get a few examples of the historical precursors of your collection. Nothing humbles them quite like a few real antiques (pre-1899 and recognized as such by US law); even better if the ammunition is no longer made, and you keep the gun as an "example of its type". And best if you manufacture that ammunition and can let them shoot something that they will likely never lay their hands on again.
March 14, 2007, 11:13 PM
I have a "collection" of guns. Why a collection, because thats what Im doing...collecting. I have easily 10+ guns that have never seen a single round. I have a "gun room" where they are displayed, more than stored.
I keep all information in a program called GunSafe (free by the way if anyone is interested) and I keep it up to date to the minute. If I acquire a correct sling to replace an incorrect one I will change the info in the program and take a new photo as well.
I buy guns I have no intention of using.
This is the last picture of my "gun room" - it was taken in January. Since then I have added a nice K31, SAIGA .223, Savage clone of Browning A5 lightweight, Romanian TTC Tokarev, Polish P64, Mosin Nagant 38, Glock 19.....I know Im missing a few more........
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Still, Pryor worried that because of the scars on his face, neck, chest and hands, "Someone would go 'aye, eek!' " Instead, the once self-described "street nigger," whose comic genius perhaps only he ever doubted, has become almost single-handedly Hollywood's black film industry. Stir Crazy, his pigeons-in-prison flick with co-star Gene Wilder, has taken in more than $100 million in a phenomenal seven-month run. It now is one of the top 10 grossers in Hollywood history. A recent CBS airing of Pryor's 1976 Silver Streak drew one of the larger TV audiences this year. And Bustin' Loose is now running even with Alan Alda's The Four Seasons, collecting some $20 million in its first few weeks.
Most of Bustin' Loose had been filmed before his accident, and Pryor's 5'10" frame had lost 20 of its customary 150 pounds. To match earlier shots, he had to wear padding to conceal the difference and turtlenecks to hide some scars. He now is working frantically with co-star Margot (Lois Lane) Kidder to finish his next movie, Some Kind of Hero, before the threatened directors' strike next month. In one scene that called for Kidder to screech up in a car to rescue Pryor from a seedy downtown hotel, Richard cracked up everyone by leaping out of the shadows in an inflated Superman suit. "I find it wonderful working with him," praises Margot. "He is an extraordinarily serious and dramatic actor and a warm and special person. I love him very much."
Richard may also be loving Richard—finally. After so many self-destructive years, Pryor is into personal renewal. He was buoyed by some 25,000 get-well letters after his accident. ("If it takes me 20 years, I'm going to answer every one," he has promised.) In a bizarre way, the torment of the flames also helped. They seem to have cauterized the self-lacerations that Pryor once tried to ease with a daily fifth of booze and a heavy cocaine habit. "In the hospital I said, 'I want to live. I'm going to get out of here.' Now I see people doing drugs and I get sad," says Pryor, determined to straighten up for good this time. "Those gaps you fill with drugs aren't helping."
His own housecleaning means ridding himself of high-life influences. Apart from presenting an Oscar and joking through one Tonight show gig, he has made few public appearances and done no carousing since returning to work in February. To escape, he has created a tightly guarded new retreat on five fenced acres in Hawaii. "Please let people know this is my last interview," he says. "That's why I've moved to Hawaii. It's hard for people just to drop in. Just about all I have is my life, my Hawaiian place and my privacy. And I'm going to keep it that way. I feel at peace there."
If he is all business in L.A., in Hawaii he's all wholesomeness. He begins each day there with a health drink of fresh fruit, protein powder, yogurt and eggs. He has taken up jogging, offers visitors unfiltered apple juice and often hits the sack at 9:30 p.m. But, stung by thousands of disappointed letters after the National Enquirer front-paged a story that he had been using cocaine in the hospital, there still is some unfinished business in Pryor's new paradise. He has followed Carol Burnett's lead with a $10 million-plus lawsuit against the tabloid. Last winter he sued his former business manager, Atlanta attorney David Franklin, for alleged mismanagement of hundreds of thousands of dollars and says he is about to file a slander suit against him as well.
The slander charges stem from conflicting reports about the causes of Pryor's near-fatal accident. Pryor blames Franklin for spreading stories that he was burned in an explosion while freebasing cocaine. In an interview with Ebony magazine, Pryor admitted that he had been freebasing for three days before the accident but says he had run out of cocaine. He had switched to drinking 151-proof rum, he claimed, and the liquor caught fire when he tried to light a cigarette with a butane lighter. Other reports may surface in court.
In the meantime, the scars that stretch to the tips of his ears leave absolutely no doubt about the horror of June 9, 1980. During Pryor's six weeks at L.A.'s Sherman Oaks Community Hospital Burn Center, he suffered indescribable pain. His upper body was covered with third-degree burns. The dead tissue had to be scraped away and skin grafted from his thighs. "I was almost gone," says Pryor. "There was nothing left but the raw nerves. I didn't call my mama or the bank or any producer. I called God."
He credits actor pals like ex-footballer Jim Brown and Stan (Roots II) Shaw with helping to pull him through. Shaw recalls that at the most trying times in the hospital, Pryor improvised advice from the Deity: "Richard, this fire is too much. I'm going to relieve you for now. I'll call you later." Shaw spent 13 hours some days with his friend and is outraged by the reports that Pryor got immediately back on cocaine. "This man was struggling to breathe!" he says. "The first day Richard got up, he pushed his IV pole in front of him and walked by himself. He was so childlike and helpless. He tried to make a joke but he was hurting. He could hardly talk." Later Stan led him in an exercise program of stretching and lifting weights to increase the flexibility of limbs and torso constricted by scar tissue. "He had incredible determination," Stan reports. "He'd tell me: 'I'm gonna whip it.' The word 'brave' can't describe what he was. He's much stronger, wiser. I am so proud of him. There's no self-destruction in him now."
There was once—and he's made no secret of it. He has often said that his mother worked in the Peoria brothel run by his grandmother. At 18 Pryor joined the Army, and by the early 1960s he had started his climb in clubs, feeling insecure and unaccepted all along the way. "I wanted to be John Wayne. I didn't know he hated my guts," he has said. His relationships with women were equally volatile. According to writer friend Paul Mooney, Richard has a "big appetite for the ladies," though he's been unable to sustain a relationship through at least three failed marriages. Part of the reason was his rage, which burst forth in his streetwise, often scatological humor and sometimes in violence. It's not surprising he thought drugs would help.
Shaw reports that Pryor now gets high only as the pilot of his own single-engine Grumman. When Richard took the controls to fly from Oahu to Maui, a shaky Stan gulped: "Wait a minute, I'm scared." He was relieved to find that Richard could fly expertly. On Maui, they fished off a pier with Richard wearing a straw hat to protect himself from the sun and toured the island on mopeds and in Richard's Jeep. "Richard's a Hawaiian now," says Stan. "They've adopted him. Hawaii is home."
Though they're divorced, he occasionally sees ex-wife Deboragh (they split after Richard reportedly blasted a Buick with a pistol New Year's Day 1978). His romance with songwriter Jennifer Lee is over, and Pryor is mainly soloing in Hawaii. His housekeeper-cook keeps things running smoothly, and Richard's four children—Renée, 24, Richard, 19, Elizabeth, 14, and Rain, 11—pop over for reunions.
Despite the good times, some tensions remain. "I gotta do something for the money they pay me," Pryor frets. "I want to make people think. But I get afraid too. I mean, people are still mad at Jane Fonda. I don't want anybody hurting me because they're mad at something else." He is plunging ahead at an almost breakneck pace. After he wraps Some Kind of Hero (about a Vietnam vet trying to adjust), a Stir Crazy sequel is scheduled to begin later this year. Then he'll film a remake of a French comedy, The Toy, tentatively co-starring Jackie Gleason, and sometime next year may start a long-planned film biography of jazz great Charlie "Bird" Parker. Meanwhile Richard will continue struggling with his own adjustment. Much still angers him. "I'm amazed that we live in a country where we have to vote for ERA and civil rights," he says. "I'm amazed that an actor is the best-qualified person we have to run the country."
Pryor's rage eases a bit amid the idyllic surroundings of his one-bedroom Maui home with its command of the coastline. "I haven't met anyone here who's strange," he says. "There's no wickedness. I went to a festival once and watched them dance. It was so pure and innocent. And they brought children. I like that. When I first saw this place again, I cried. I thanked God for letting me live to see it." Then, flashing that irrepressible Pryor grin, he adds: "You might mildew to death here, but nothin' else is going to happen to you."
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Two people were killed by the storm in Louisiana and one death is confirmed in Texas, while a 19-year-old swept away on a jetty is yet to be found. Also, one network television news program is reporting a ten year old boy in Houston wask killed by a falling tree limb.
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They were taken to a local Baptist Church turned shelter for storm victims. Robinson told reporters, "It was like a dream," as he and his sister attempted to recover from the ordeal at the church shelter.
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President Bush declared Texas a disaster area and gave an executive order releasing immediate federal aid to the area.
Ike spared southwest Louisiana from a direct hit but did move 30 miles inland flooding thousands of homes already soaked previously on Labor Day by Hurricane Gustav.
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Posted by Colleen on September 08, 2011
I was an English major, but I'm no grammar pro. My third grader asked me to check her predicate homework last night, and I was all, "Uh, sure. What's a predicate?" So we aren't talking advanced English here, folks. But please, for the love of all that's good and holy, stop treating apostrophes like jewelry for your words. They don't make them fancier. They make them wrong.
I know grammar lessons are a distant memory (hello, predicates!), so here's a crash course for those of you who need to dust the cobwebs of off that chapter of your native language.
- Use an apostrophe if your word owns something. (Colleen's blog post.) Personal pet peeve: The signs at the end of driveways that read "The Baker's." The Baker's what? House? Driveway? Yard?
- Use an apostrophe if a letter is missing because you've combined words. (Baby, it's cold outside.) An apostrophe does not make your word more plural. So saying "Aren't these table's GORGEOUS??" doesn't make me any more enthusiastic about your project. It makes me cringe, and by the time I'm done cringing I've probably already finished scrolling to the bottom of your page and may be pulling you off my Google Reader.
And that's it. (See what I did there?) There are other simple/common grammar mistakes, and some of them probably bother you more than others. Hell, I bet you're even annoyed by the ones I've made within this post. But here's the deal: I'm seeing apostrophes used more liberally in blog posts and professional communications than butter in a Paula Deen recipe, and y'all. It's bad.
If you're in a business environment, PEOPLE JUDGE YOU.
If you have a blog, you are a writer. It doesn't matter what you're writing about, you're a writer. Writers are allowed to break any and all rules as long as they break them on purpose. Don't abuse that right. PEOPLE JUDGE YOU.
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That looks good Paula, I need to read through your journal.
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BP Coffee x 2
Can of tuna mixed with homemade mayo, and 4 cherry tomatoes
Half a chicken sausage (our butcher makes the best sausages with just meat and herbs)
Sirloin Beef Steak
Has not been dinner yet though, but that is planned.
I have come in at about 1500 calories (17 g carbs, 118g Fat, and 100g protein).
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WARREN - Of the 97 people indicted on drug and gun charges, 74 were in custody by the end of the day on Wednesday, officials confirmed.
Warren police Chief Timothy Bowers said earlier today that law enforcement was in the process of rounding up more suspects today.
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Law enforcement is calling the sweep, dubbed "Operation: Little D-Town," one of its biggest crime busts in local history.
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Day two of "Operation: Little D-Town" got off to a running start early this morning as agents swarmed the city looking for individuals indicted on state and federal drug and gun charges.
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Lee County residential sales increased 22.8 percent from the previous month. In contrast, sales slipped by 19.2 percent or 23 units when compared to the same period a year earlier. Year-to-date through March, closed transactions are up 2.1 percent.
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Supply: The Lee County housing inventory in March was 983 units, a decrease of 19.5 percent from March 2012 and 32.4 percent from the month of March's peak in 2011 (1,455 units).There was 10.1 months of housing supply (6-7 months represents balanced market) in March 2013 versus 10.2 months of supply in March 2012, a decrease of .4 percent. Continued improvement in the decline of the months of supply to single-digits would be welcome news.March inventory in Lee County decreased by .2 percent from the prior month. Historical data indicates that March inventory on average ('08-'12) traditionally increases from the month of February by 1.3 percent.Demand: March residential sales were up 22.8% from the prior month. This movement is consistent but not as much as historical data indicating that January sales, on average ('08-'12), increase from the month of February by 82.4 percent. Existing single family home sales accounted for 36 percent (down from 47 in Mar'12) of total sales while 40 percent (up from 21% in Mar'12) were new home sales and 24 percent (down from 32% in Mar'12) were condo buyers.
Pricing: The Lee County median selling price in March was $173,400, an increase of 23.9 percent from last March ($140,000). The March median price also improved by 2.0 percent when compared to the prior month. Historical data ('08-'12) indicates that the March median selling price traditionally slightly decrease from the month of February by .1 percent so this improvement from recent trends is encouraging news.
What's the latest housing and economic outlook for 2013? In a March 2013 report, analysts at Bank of America/ Merrill Lynch concluded: "We believe that the gain in home prices can persist despite subpar economic growth this year…Absent a significant weakening in the economy with negative payrolls, we think the housing recovery can continue. The combination of low inventory (referring to nationwide level), high affordability and improving expectations for home prices provide powerful momentum for the housing sector."
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PARK CITY, Utah — The snow has begun to fall and so have pic prices, but sales remain slow as the 2001 edition of the Sundance Film Festival winds to a close.
Still, Artisan Entertainment is negotiating to buy Billy Corben's "Raw Deal: The Question of Consent," a controversial doc screening in the American Spectrum section. The pic, being sold by John Sloss of Sloss Special Projects, is an expose on the contested 1999 rape of 27-year-old Lisa Gier King in Gainesville, Fla.
Pic was produced jointly by Miami-based 22-year-old filmmakers Alfred Spellman and Corben. The duo were so intrigued by the film's subject matter that they each left their respective colleges with only one semester until graduation and moved to Gainesville to make the doc.
If Artisan's deal closes, that will be four years in a row that the shingle has nabbed a highly talked-about project out of Sundance. Last year, the studio acquired the dark comedy "Chuck & Buck," written by Mike White and directed by Miguel Arteta. In 1999, Artisan acquired "The Blair Witch Project," and the year before they bought "Pi."
Among the other titles expected to sell over the next week are Henry Bean's "The Believer," Richard Linklater's "Waking Life," Michael Cuesta's "L.I.E.," David Wain's "Wet Hot American Summer" and Alison Anders' "Things Behind the Sun." Other hot titles are Timothy Bui's "Green Dragon" and Scott McGehee and David Siegel's "The Deep End," both of which are being pursued.
Studio interest
Studio execs are looking closely at at least two pics from the festival: William Bindley's "Madison" and DeMane Davis and Khari Streeters' "Lift," deals for which likely won't close until after the fest.
Some of the usual acquisitions suspects, such as Fine Line, Paramount Classics, Lions Gate and Sony Pictures Classics have remained cautious, enabling smaller companies to step up to the plate. Wednesday, IFC Films nabbed two films, while Lot 47 and IDF are said to be circling several titles passed on by the larger distribs.


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Thursday, July 11, 2013
Michael Ovitz in Sun Valley, Idaho for Allen & Co.'s Mogul Fest
"Allen & Co is a small investment bank that works on a lot of deals. It gathers people like Warren Buffett, Jerry Yang, Tim Cook, and others for a conference each summer in Idaho.
At the conference, the media moguls either start on big deals, like when Comcast's Brian Roberts started talks about buying NBC, or they get closer to closing deals. Or, they just catch up with people in the industry and trade gossip."
Read the entire Business Insider article, Millionaires, Billionaires, And Hangers-On All Gather In Sun Valley, Idaho For Allen & Co.'s Mogul Fest
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