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|Jerome Williams, RHP
46/28 K/BB, 11 HR in 72.0 IP
|John Thomson, RHP
39/16 K/BB, 4 HR in 59.2 IP
|SS #Rafael Furcal
|LF *Matt Lawton
|2B Marcus Giles
|2B *Todd Walker
hooray for no corey!!! and
hooray for no corey!!!
and why do i get the feeling that nomar could have played in one of these two games, but dusty keeps saying "we want to be sure" so he can keep neifi's bat in there
also, great thing that macias was used in a tie game in the 8th inning yesterday, when nomar and hairston are on the bench. i called that one. they Never got used.
why even pinch hit for zambrano in that case? just let him hit for himself and then put wood in in the 9th. at least zambrano has some power....
Nomar hasn't played in 4 of
Nomar hasn't played in 4 of the 5 games since his latest injury. The one game he played he went 2 for 4. I think he is fine and Idoit wants to play Neifi. I mean in half the games Nomar has started at SS Neifi played 2b. I mean Nomar said he was fine for saturday's game.
Conspiracy theorists are
Conspiracy theorists are everywhere....
Jesus was married; JFK was killed by the mafia and Nomar is being held out by Baker....
"I can swing, and I feel all right," he said. "It's more [painful] moving around, that movement when I'm on the field, and that's when I feel it more.
"I definitely have some back spasms going on back there and some tightness," he said. "It's definitely pretty painful."
He may go on the DL in a day or two....
Parting shot from Baker:
"The frustrating part is you still have memories of how great a player this guy is," Baker said. "If he could stay healthy, I'm sure it's still there. He's not old. I'm sure it's doubly frustrating for him. His stroke was starting to come now. It's been a tough year for injuries."
Rob, Thanks for the info.
Thanks for the info. This just proves maybe your right on Furcal. I mean a DL stint two weeks after coming back from a 3 month injury. I don't want to see Neifi for 100+ games again next year and I am not impressed with what I see from Cedeno.
"it's hard to take Neifi
"it's hard to take Neifi [Perez] out of there, the way he's playing."
Nomar is done. I've never
Nomar is done. I've never been a proponent of resigning him. Too expensive. It would be a great time to get Cedeno some AB's at least until June or July and if they needed could make a trade.
I am, however, EXTREMELY worried that Neifi Perez at short may be a recurring nightmare in cubdom in 2006. Damn, Dusty, that must be some good lovin'!
Neifi is to Dusty as Mr.
Neifi is to Dusty as Mr. Burns is to Smithers.
Or is it the other way
Or is it the other way around, chifan?
What are the odds on a
What are the odds on a Williams no-no tonight?
Is it wrong to cheer against
Is it wrong to cheer against Neifi because each time he does well in this, a meaningless season, it increases the possibility that he'll be back for next year.
Gabe, I think he has a good
I think he has a good chance with the wind blowing in like it is. These are no-no conditions I thought either Z or Huddy was going to do it yesterday. Great Neifi got 2 rbi's now he will get to play everyday the rest of the season.
Williams is going to pitch a
Williams is going to pitch a no hitter? Come one. First of all it is only the 4th inning. Second of all it is Jerome Williams.
The odds are not good.
Dave, I know the odds arent
I know the odds arent good but i just have a gut feeling on it. I mean he sucks at hitting and he is 2 for 2. I mean Don Larsen sucked and he threw a Perfect game in the WS. Stranger things have happend.
Williams is 2 for 2 and is
Williams is 2 for 2 and is pitching great. I can't remember why we skipped him in the rotation. Oh, yeah, he sucked his previous four starts. Maybe he's a guy like KWood who just needs a month or so between starts to get ready.
Agreed chifan. The odds
Agreed chifan. The odds suck for ANY no hitter at ANY time, so why not tonight, he's damn near half way.
walker walks lee
walker walks
lee doubles
ramirez walks
and boom goes the dynamite
amazing what happens when you CLOG those BASES
i fucking hate dusty and his lack of caring about patience. on nights when the cubs actually walk more than twice, i bet the record is pretty damn good. it's just not that hard. arrrrgh
hendry please sign giles. he will be unfazed by dusty.
i'm with gabe re: cheering
i'm with gabe re: cheering against neifi.
and the only good part about the retarded "throw it back" tradition is situations like this when several balls come back from the street. that will always be funny for me.
Damn what a way to lose a
Damn what a way to lose a no-no! At least he still has a 7-run lead.
I love on the "throw it
I love on the "throw it back" tradition, when the tv camera actually follows the ball as it leaves the bleachers.... gets thrown back into the infield... and then tossed back into expensive seats above the dugout.
go to gameday and check out
go to gameday and check out that ERA for Divine!!!!! 31.50 OUCH
There should be a new rule
There should be a new rule enacted in baseball that if the division winner is not over .500 then a second wild card team would be chosen from the other two divisions.
I mean, we suck, alright. But the Padres suck worse than us. The only reason they have a better record than us is because they play in the NL west
Garcia has a no-no through 6.
Garcia has a no-no through 6.
It's nice to see the Cubs
It's nice to see the Cubs perform well on my birthday...Where was this offensive horsepower last night (or during the final game with Colorado)...?? The Cubs seem to play in streaks...Lets hope they can play well when Prior pitches tomorrow...It would actually be great to win the Atlanta series...;-)
Garcia throws a Complete
Garcia throws a Complete Game 1 hitter and losses for the Sox!
How often do you see that?
walker/holly have cleared
walker/holly have cleared waivers...amazing no one tried to block walker at the very least.
I think the Cubs should get
I think the Cubs should get rid of Lawton and Holly...keep Walker (for now)...Use Hairston and Murton to take over for Lawton...I figure the Cubs need to go at least 29 & 7 from here on out to get to 90 wins -- where they MIGHT have a chance to get the Wild Card spot...It's possible but not likely...The Cubs would have to start to sweep some teams (like the Marlins)...We would need all the pitchers (Maddux, Prior, Zambrano and Williams) to stay healthy and pitch well...The Bullpen would have to become more consistent...And our offense would need to start to play like they did tonight...We can't expect D. Lee and Ramirez to carry the team all the time...It's great to see someone like Burnitz really hit well -- we need Burnitz to have a strong finish this season...Are the Cubs totally out of it this year?....No...Yet, the next few games will demonstrate IF they are serious about making a run for the Wild Card...;-)
Trade all 3. Lawton would be
Trade all 3. Lawton would be a great fit for the White Sox if Podsednik's injury keeps lingering. Walker would be able to spark a bidding war bewteen Boston, Minnesota, Mets, and Oakland. Holly could be useful to an NL team who needs a good PH.
Still my favorite, Scott. I
Still my favorite, Scott.
I personally don't have the stomach to follow this team. I officially wrote off the season last night. If I hitch my wagon to the Wild Card pipe dream again, I surely will not be able to take the disappointment.
I'll watch out of the corner of my eye, but unless the Cubbies reel of 10 straight, I'm considering this season over.
I might be a bad fan for doing so, but I hate thinking they have a chance and being let down. I just need a few months off from this team and I'll be just as excited come March, when I think (as I always do) this team will make the playoffs.
Poor me. Poor us.
walker cleared waivers?
walker cleared waivers? that's crazy. the twins didn't want him for example?!
i'm quite happy that he didn't, i want him back for a few more years.
btw, as bad/lost as
btw, as bad/lost as patterson has been, at least he's not criminally insane
ps....it's been a bad year for corey when this is the best compliment i can find??
As much as I dislike the
As much as I dislike the offense on this club, the real problem is the starting pitching. It was the strength of the 03 team and they've lived and died with it since. Nothing screams starting pitching more than 3-8 game losing streaks. OK 2 8's and a 7-you get the point. Mike Mussina, Jason Schmidt, Jeff Weaver could be potential targets.
more likely than
more likely than mussina-carl pavano.
Carmen, Weaver in 173.1 IP
Weaver in 173.1 IP has 36 walks. I have always liked his stuff. He won 20 games a few years with Detroit and is just won his 12th for the Dodgers this year and winning 32 games for those teams says something. His HR rate is up there but not Milton bad. Also he is as good with the bat as Z is and maybe a little better. In my book Prior, Z, and Williams are the only guys who should come back. Maddux should retire, because with how his stuff continues to detriote I'm concerned he could be the highest paid BP pitcher. Wood needs to be the closer he is just plain filthy as a reliever. Hendry should also get AJ Burnett.
Green Latern,
I'll take Bradley over C-pat anyday. Bradley on the field is everything we thought C-pat could be. Get Bradley a good shrink and some meds and he would be a top flight CF.
Yeah, I'll bet Andy McPhail
Yeah, I'll bet Andy McPhail has discovered the formula... for personal enrichment. He sounds pretty disconnected from reality, like some tribster flushed him out of hiding from his new multi-million-dollar house on the affluent North Shore (thanks to all you Cubbie fans) to do some damage control. Next time Andy, hire yourself a spin manager.
I was reading that about
I was reading that about Bradley. A white player calls out Bradley for a lack of hustle so in order to defend his laziness he has to pull the race card. That is just disgusting and pathetic on Bradley's part.
That crap about everyone in the organization telling Bradley he was the team leader is comical. I am sure the Dodgers organization is going to tell him he is the team leader after he basically was kicked off the Cleveland Indians team because he ran his mouth too much.
"At no time am I going to let somebody question my hustle, my injury or question my motivation for playing," Bradley said.
What a complete asshole. I hope he pulls an "operation shutdown" and disappears forever, just like Derrek Bell.
I think Neifi is a perfectly
I think Neifi is a perfectly good, better than average, back up utility infielder. The key is back-up..which means we need a starting shortstop who we can count on to stay healthy, or as soon as a significant injury occurs, a trade needs to be made (2006, I couldn't care less about this year)
Also, I still don't understand the obscene hatred of Macias (as long as he isn't starting 4 games in a row in centeR)
Bradley is a JERK...Jesus
Bradley is a JERK...Jesus are we not past pullin the race card everytime something doesn't go a black persons way?
Go play fuckin basketball if baseball bothers you so much. Who has more success in baseball...Kent or Bradley? Come ON.....what a fuckin whiner
I agree that Bradley is way
I agree that Bradley is way out of line pulling the race card...but from things I've read recently, Kent is an incredibly selfish egomaniac who puts his own stats ahead of the success of the team. We know Kent had his issues in SF as well...I wonder what is true and what isn't as to who the instigator is (aside from the bullshit race card)
Three letters for out
Three letters for out should-be shortstop next year: D.U.I.
Please, PLEASE go out and get Rafael Furcal.
There are plenty of bars within walking distance of Wrigley... so hey, no need for cars! No car = no DUIs!
Jeff Weaver and Greg Maddux
Jeff Weaver and Greg Maddux this year:
173.1 177 27 36 116 4.41
170.2 185 24 29 104 4.56
Hard to tell which is which, no? So why is it a shame to pay Maddux ~9M for one year but smart to shell out more for a long-term deal for a guy with basically the same numbers? Oh, he's got "stuff." I see.
Not to mention that Weaver throws in a pitchers park, or the fact that Maddux brings intangible benefits not reflected in his stats...
It saddens me that some of
It saddens me that some of us still speculate on personnel decisions, roster makeup, and offseason moves that might help this ballclub.
The probelm with the Cubs is purely psychological and is utterly Baker. This year is the fallout of the nuclear winter that was 2004. This year is hardly surprising. You have a manager who hates the city, the press,and the fans and couldn't manage a gallon of water down a drain . . .
In 2004 this clown runs the loosest ship on the planet, players are our of control, poor fundementals, runs Hawkins out there to lose 9 or 11 one run save situations, players are calling the TV booth during games, umpire arguments and blaming of everyone in the world except himself and his players . . . and as we all know a reasonable and established baseball man (Steve Stone) calls Baker and the Cubs on the simple fact that they have noone to blame but themselves.
The clincher being of course that Hendry backs Baker and Stone is run out of town as a scapegoat. And the great Sammy Sosa smokescreen.
A TV announcer, a handful of players (Sosa, Alou, Mercker) and injuries are used as excuse for a inept manager who most likely has an undiagnosed psychological condition.
Then the GM runs everyone out of town but the freak in the manager's chair. Doesn't do his job in the offseason because he is too consumed with the task of parading his scapegoats around (mainly getting rid of Sosa). Yes that is right a team is mismanaged all year, loses EVERY meaningful game the last week of the season with a Wild Card lead, and had lost COUNTLESS games all year due to out of control emotions and bad management, and the big story is the eveil Stoney and Sosa leaving early the last day of the season. (Sosa is obnoxious, but the Cubs flop was the real story).
So the GM is now a damage control superhero who gets nothing done in the offseason (needed outfiedler and closer - got neither). Additionally with a fulltime job of protecting his over-sensistive childish manager and paying someone to play Sosa he resorts to falling in love with his past and signs a bunch of injured guys (Williamson, Nomar, Fox etc.) at bargain basement prices and slaps himself on the back.
McPhail and Hendry knew damn well that the 2005 Cubs were ill-equipped to compete at championship level but were very content to spin the team as contenders (and hope they get lucky) because 3,000,000 fans were a likelihood for the 21st century Wrigely Field set. That attitude of spinning the Cubs as contenders is still in effect because to admit they are not is to lose a little of the turnstile action.
Basically the Cubs are the equivelant of the Undead. Zombies. They are a cumulatively soul-less, heartless, unintelligent, uncompetitive, easy-way-out, un-tenacious, non-pesky, bloated shells of players and they reflect the mindset of their manager. Last year they weren't total zombies becuase they were still alive and because they were arrogant. This year they haven't even got any arrogance left. Ugly as it was they were at least human.
There are a lot of bad managers in baseball, but few are as hostile and psychologically ill equipped as Dusty Baker. I'd take the worst of them to get rid of this guys bad karma and cancerous attitude.
Are you all really surprised at how this season has turned out?
It's good to be back.
Hendry didn't get an
Hendry didn't get an outfielder? What is Jeromy Burnitz? I understand he isn't a "top-tier" player, but has played reasonably well and exceeded expectations(mine at least) and other than this rather long slump he seems to have "slammed" out of last night, he has done pretty well. I don't see how this can ALL be pinned on Baker and Hendry. I am not an apologist or dating Dusty, Hendry, or Neifi, but I do know that Dusty cannot control other peoples abilities to fly out to deep left with a runner on third with less than two outs. I am not saying Dusty is perfect, but I think the blame can be spread around a little more than it sometimes is.
I understand he isn't a
I understand he isn't a "top-tier" player, but has played reasonably well and exceeded expectations(mine at least)
Exactly how bad did you expect Burnitz to be? He's playing well below his career averages, so to say that he's exceeding expectations would be to say that the expectations were extremely (and unreasonably) low.
I'd say he's barely met expectations at best.
Actually Jon I am indeed
Actually Jon I am indeed saying that a manager CAN control (read influence) a player's ability to execute a long fly ball and all that. I am tired of that lame ass excuse. If a manager cannot influence the overall mindset, level of confidence, and accentuate the abilities of his players why not just throw an Anchovie out there in cubby blue and save $2,000,000-plus per year?
Seriously what are we paying the guy for if he doesn't have the ability to make the players better?
Player A .267BA 13HR 59
Player A .267BA 13HR 59 RBI
Player B .264BA 19HR 65RBI
Player C .223BA 14HR 45RBI
Wanna know who player A is??? It was the guy who was demanding 200M for 10 years...As I recall there wasn't much else that was available...Burnitz (player B) came out at a cheaper rate for approximately the same production(and has never had his hustle questioned). Player C is still being paid by the Trib. and is the former rightfielder for our cubbies. I also accept the fact it is a lot easier for me to be ok with Burnitz now that I have seen what he has done compared to the other options(hindsight 20/20)
I understand what you are saying, and I would agree...to an extent. Is the manager supposed to get the best out of a team? Yes, absolutely...But I heard people blame Baker for Barrett not running that runner back to third a couple of weeks ago. Barrett acknowledged he screwed up and it was just a mental gaffe, but I saw people blaming Dusty for it. I just think you and I disagree on how much affect Dusty has on this club. I am ok with agreeing to disagree.
If you want a quality team,
If you want a quality team, read playoffs, Burnitz should be your third best outfielder not far and away your best outfielder(hitting includeded) which he is with this team.
Bring back BeerNutz next year as long as there are two studs out there with him.
I'll agree to disagree. But
I'll agree to disagree. But I REALLY disagree!! lol. In fact my whole philosophy is that the Cub's current problem is psychological and not physical. And Baker is the main neurotic element . . . plus his antagonism towards the fans/press make the team unwatcheable to me and I really resent that.
Also Hendry really had the job of getting TWO outfielders in the offseason. He got one and it was Burnitz. We needed both corner outfielders and a closer . . .
well said Jacos. I kind of
well said Jacos. I kind of like Burnitz but he needs to be 3rd or 4th outfielder on a 100 million dollar team thatdraws 3,000,000 fans and is supposedly making a push to win its first WS in nearly one hundred frickin' years.
Jacos, I
I agree...Burnitz is a good third outfielder and has done well in right. I have no complaints about the defense at all.
It seems to me that Dusty isn't being antagonistic as much as honest. He doesn't use the ol' Bull Durham "just take it one game at a time" cliches as much as others, instead he tries to be honest, but then is second guessed for his honesty...I may be way off-track on that one, but that is my view of it...just out of curiousity(and not entrapment), which players do you think add to the psychologic failure of this team? Which players, for that reason alone, need to go, in your opinion?
Superimmer: "It saddens me
"It saddens me that some of us still speculate on personnel decisions, roster makeup, and offseason moves that might help this ballclub. The probelm with the Cubs is purely psychological and is utterly Baker."
It's great to see Burnitz
It's great to see Burnitz generate some RBIs because he'll never get the credit for all the runs he prevents by his outstanding defense. Basically, if it can't be counted in fantasy points, people conveniently forget about it.
Fantasy sports are fun and all that, but it's really created a perceptions problem where if a guy has bad numbers, then he's generally thought of as a horrible player.
It can go both ways, too, for example: Farnsworth. I don't care how good his numbers are, he's trouble in the clubhouse. Detroit, despite his great season so far, didn't even keep him around a year.
Another example is Dusty Baker. He came into a team that just recently decided to take their playoff run seriously. So when was hired, the team started doing a lot better. I don't think it was necessarily Dusty that made that change, but rather was management's willingness to open the checkbook and get a serious team put together.
Superjimmer, tell us how you
Superjimmer, tell us how you really feel about Dusty. I think you are holding back here.
I agree with your comments about the end of 2004, a lot scapegoating and smokescreens.
The problem is talent this year. Again, I looked up the PECOTA projections for the Cubs position players who have gotten 90% of their at bats and except for Patterson and Garciparra, they are all at or above, in some cases well above the projection. So Dusty has gotten the most out his position players. There just not enough "most" to begin with. The pitchers are another story.
I save my irrational vents for McPhail. He has been here the longest and seems to think everything is hunky-dorey. If Dusty is let go, he will go on to win in LA which I thinkn is his dream job.
"Seriously what are we
"Seriously what are we paying the guy for if he doesn't have the ability to make the players better?"
IMO, a manager's main job isn't to make players better, but rather to know his players strenghts and weakness and when ever possible put the player in situations that exploit their strenghts and minimize their weaknesses.
Another point on managers.
Another point on managers. If managers are able to improve players, how do you evaluate this talent? How do you distinguish from the benefits of the other coaches? Who is more important in player delevopment the coaches, the manager or the player?
SuperJimmer brings up what I
SuperJimmer brings up what I have expressed about Baker and what Crunch talks about.
Sorry to drag your name up Crunch but your stance is pretty firm that Baker or a manager has very little influence on how his team performs. It is just not a big deal.
And I will be happy to go along with that. So if the manager is no big deal why are we paying him $4 million dollars? I think this organization deserves alot more for it's $4 million dollars than what Baker can do.
Baker came to Chicago with big expectations and a big contract. Has Chicago's investment in him been anything close to worth it? I don't think so. And in return all we get are headaches.
Ohh and to add. Baker's
Ohh and to add. Baker's salary could be used on more important things like better coaches in the minors and maybe a top notch training staff. I mean real training staff that actually gets back players sooner than expected, not the old, "He will only miss a few days." And then 2 weeks or 2 months later the player is still out with the same injury.
"It saddens me that some of
"It saddens me that some of us still speculate on personnel decisions, roster makeup, and offseason moves that might help this ballclub."
"The probelm with the Cubs is purely psychological and is utterly Baker."
"McPhail and Hendry knew damn well that the 2005 Cubs were ill-equipped to compete at championship level... "
So, basically what you're saying is it's Baker's fault completely, but we don't have the right "equipment" to compete at championship level. Yet, it's sad to speculate on what might help us get to that level. Because it's Baker's fault... but he doesn't have the right personnel... but it's sad to discuss personnel problems... because it's Baker's fault... but it's not?
You're starting to sound like Joe Morgan, Jimmer.
"Sorry to drag your name up
"Sorry to drag your name up Crunch but your stance is pretty firm that Baker or a manager has very little influence on how his team performs. It is just not a big deal.
And I will be happy to go along with that. So if the manager is no big deal why are we paying him $4 million dollars? I think this organization deserves alot more for it's $4 million dollars than what Baker can do. "
yeah mike...if you drag up a few of my baker posts including one burried in that recent RSox rant thread...well...
i dont think there's such thing as a 4m manager...or a 8-10m reliever...
lineup jockeys and ego checkers just are not worth the price of what is essentially 5%+ of the average club's payroll.
its cool to drag my name up when it goes along with stuff ive said, btw...totally cool. i can defend or nod my head in agreement. in this case im pretty much agreeing.
i think anyone who sees ANY manager as a savior before looking at what is on the club and realizing what the tallent is vs. what you can expect and taking in account injuries/replacements is a bit short sighted.
in 03 just about everyone baker worked with outperformed their asses off. even in 04/05 there's a lotta players around outperforming (Coors-effect players aside) recent performances.
that said...baker didnt "make" them better...all he did was give them a role to perform in.
I can't stand Joe
I can't stand Joe Morgan.
Well Mike C. stated one of my points more succinctly which is: why pay Baker big dollars if managers don't matter.
Second another point is that speculating about roster changes is frustrating because in my opinion Dusty gets the worst out of - or - in case of Hawkins, etc. - actually sabotages talent. He has to go before we can getserious again.
Also I agree with folks who vent at McPhail and Hendry. They are total buffoons for allowing the last two seasons to occur. But that includes coddling a manager who can't strategize or energize the team.
Finally RobR says "IMO, a manager's main job isn't to make players better, but rather to know his players strenghts and weakness and when ever possible put the player in situations that exploit their strenghts and minimize their weaknesses." I totally agree with this (we are saying the same thing) and Baker sucks at it. Also he has added a whole added layer of psychological over-sensitivity to the Cubs that not only sabotages the process you describe but perpetuates a losing atmosphere and lack of joy in the clubhouse. It also increases pressure on players and makes the relationship between the fans and the team antagonistic.
"just out of curiousity(and
"just out of curiousity(and not entrapment), which players do you think add to the psychologic failure of this team? Which players, for that reason alone, need to go, in your opinion?"
Well I don't really think many of the players attitudes are the problem. I think the clubhouse culture last year cultivated an environment where players like Alou, Wood, and Mercker felt almost inspired to be bigger headcases than they had at any other point in their careers.
What kind of manager/gm would allow players to be communicating with TV commentators during the game. And for those of you who feel that managers cannot control their players then why not totally nip itin the bud publicly and say "I am damn disappointed my players aren't focussed on the field during a playoff hunt." But no Dusty and Hendry join the fracas.
Alou had never had a year of attacking umpires and bitching atthe crowd like last year under Dusty. Dusty of course was blaming umps and press and TV all the time.
Anyway a good manager MANAGES the egos of the team. Not only did Dusty not manage them he BLAMED the biggest egos like a whiney victim and that consumed Hendry for the whole offseason.
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Friday's games will be in Washington, Chicago, Arlington, and Cleveland or Boston. Someone's game is starting laaaaaaaate - 50-50 chance it's the CDT Cubs.
Meh, I messed that up. Mets are in.
Cards and Giants can still tie though.
Kershaw gets hurt by his defense and gave up 2 more runs. Blach has 8 shutout innings.
Mets already won as did Cards.
tomorrow is gonna be helluva fun if Giants hold on. We're all rooting for a 3-way tie I presume.
good news is now 5 K's for Lester through 4 (in a quest for 200 for season). Bad news is he's already at 86 pitches.
be curious how long Maddon sticks with Lester to try and let offense get back into it and get him the win (4-2 as I type, was 4-0)
Fwiw, he needed 2.1 IP to cross 200 for season so he got that at least. He also needs 9 K's for 200K's on season and he has 4 through 3.
cubs score 2 runs thanks to predictable reds pitching and horrible CIN defense...cubs only down by 1 now. heyward even got a gift 2rbi double out of an easy popout. neat.
something named Ty Blach has outpitched Clayton Kershaw through 6 innings (1-0 Giants).
not that finishing 2nd place will matter much nor did this game, but have to think if Hendricks pitches well tomorrow, he could leapfrog Lester in Cy Young voting. Don't see anyway Scherzer doesn't win it regardless and it doesnt' look like Lester has any incentive clauses that matter. Also might give Cueto some votes.
Rather remarkable how many teams have really good 1-2 options this year.
Nats: Scherzer and Roark (and Strasburg was great before injuries)
Cubs: Lester and Hendricks (and Arrietta is still damn good just not as consistently lately)
pretty much what I'm gathering from this thread is that it doesn't matter who you play in 5-game series, but no one wants to have to deal with Cardinal fans if we end up losing.
I can respect that.
first game for lester giving up more than 2 runs since july 24th. hell of a run.
doh, yes...dunno what happened there. jake arrieta is all "bro wut?"
lester going for #20...cubs haven't had a LH (thanks jpep for the correction) 20 game winner since d.ellsworth in 1963.
fwiw, all the games are free on mlb.tv
Short rest for MadBum would be 2 days. WC game is Wed., Games 1 & 2 are Friday/Saturday.
A left-handed one...
J-Hey not finishing with an offensive onslaught.
If Geoff Blum could be a Playoff hero, there is hope still...


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by phil_m on 2013-01-09 08:45:57
I'm not sure why it's so cheap at the moment, but Zzounds has the M5 for $129, and it's not a B-stock or factory refurbished or anything. I don't see any other dealers reducing prices, so I imagine this a temporary price reduction.
by kmoed on 2013-01-25 13:27:40
Long & McQuade in Canada has them on for $139. Great Deal!
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Thursday, April 02, 2009
Korean Potatoes and Korean Spinach Salad
Ingredients for the Spinach Salad:
1 bunch spinach
1/4 teaspoon sugar
1/4 teaspoon salt
1/2 teaspoon soy sauce
1 tablespoon sesame oil
1 teaspoon sesame seeds for garnish
6 cups water and 1 teaspoon salt to blanch
Heat water, add salt & spinach. After about a minute, drain the hot water and cool the spinach in cold water. Drain and squeeze well.
Put spinach in a medium bowl, add all ingredients and mix well.
Transfer to a plate, garnish with sesame seeds.
Ingredients for Gamja Jorim:
2 potatoes, peeled and cut
Onion, sliced
1 tbsp Gochujang (Red pepper Paste) (I used sambal oelek instead)
1 tsp Gochugaru (Red chilli powder)
2 cloves of garlic, crushed
1 tsp Soy Sauce
1 tsp Sugar
1 tsp Corn Syrup (I used organic molasses)
Sesame Seeds for garnish
Stir fry the potatoes and onions in oil.
Add the gochujang, gochugaru, garlic, soy sauce, sugar, corn syrup and a little water.
Cover and turn down the heat.
Cook until the potatoes are tender.
Serve with sesame seeds as garnish. Can be served hot or chilled.
To cut the cooking time, I'd nuked the potatoes with water for 2 minutes before frying in the pan. Both the salad & the potatoes turned out great. The flavors in the potato just blew me away! It was very spicy, with the sweetness from the sugar and syrup balancing the flavors very nicely. I'll be making this often! Kombe! :)
45 comments:
- Cham said...
The potato is sweet and hot? Very different taste for our palette! Lovely entry with spinach!
- April 2, 2009 at 12:56:00 PM EDT
- Asha said...
WOW! Loving the Korean food here, looks delicious and healthy too. Spicy and sweet alus, yum! :)
Take M to Monsters vs Aliens, my kids said it's really good, may be she will like it.
- April 2, 2009 at 1:07:00 PM EDT
- Happy cook said...
I think i love love that korean potato dish, it is really unusual andlooks so so yummy.
- April 2, 2009 at 1:33:00 PM EDT
- Pooja said...
Looking delicious vani...Healthy post..
- April 2, 2009 at 1:35:00 PM EDT
- DEESHA said...
the salad looks soo green & beautiful .. lovely aloos too
- April 2, 2009 at 2:09:00 PM EDT
- Ann said...
Korean food is my fav Vani...the spinach looks awesome and professional..and yes i feel the potatoes taste unique as well !!
- April 2, 2009 at 2:15:00 PM EDT
- Priya Sriram said...
Wonderful attempt to make Korean food... Sweet and hot is soooo different for our taste buds. Potato looks really inviting. Great job Vani! :)
- April 2, 2009 at 2:53:00 PM EDT
- Vani said...
Cham - spicy and sweet does sound different but you'll take to it immediately!
Asha - thanks. haven't taken M to the movie house yet! but hope to change that soon with a night show. let's see...
HC - saw the ingredients in the potato recipe and I had to try that! Glad I did! :)
Pooja - thanks :)
Deesha- thanks :)
Ann - I'd never attemepted Korean before. Glad I did. Of course, I chose the easy recipes :)
Priya - thanks! and it wasn't that different for us, as one'd think.
- April 2, 2009 at 3:08:00 PM EDT
- Priya said...
Just love the korean potato dish, its looks too tempting..Beautiful green salad!!
- April 2, 2009 at 4:14:00 PM EDT
- Deepa Hari said...
Never tried Korean cuisine...Both the dishes look lovely Vani...esp. the potato dish...very inviting.
- April 2, 2009 at 5:58:00 PM EDT
- Varsha Vipins said...
I loved the second one Vani..looks yum n the color is so bright n screaming like eat mee..yum..:)
- April 2, 2009 at 6:54:00 PM EDT
- Ashwini said...
Not tasted any korean food..This looks so simple and yummmm..Love that sweet and spicy aloo..Love that caramalised color..
- April 2, 2009 at 7:46:00 PM EDT
- Vani said...
Priya- thanks. i loved the color and taste of the salad too :)
Deepa - me too. I'm looking forward to the round-up so I can see what others made too..
Varsha - I had the first bit of the potato and then kept on until it was almost over! great tasting dish :)
Ashwini - that's why i like the AWED event. Such a nice opportunity to try something new and different :)
- April 2, 2009 at 8:12:00 PM EDT
- Priti said...
Wow looks gr8....both the dishes colour are so nice....and your cabbage palya looks yum :)..
- April 2, 2009 at 9:52:00 PM EDT
- Sharmila said...
I don't know about that blanched spinach ... but I'll take the potatoes. Yum! :-)
- April 2, 2009 at 11:37:00 PM EDT
- Sandeepa said...
I don't think I have ever had Korean food. I will take the potato :)
- April 3, 2009 at 8:51:00 AM EDT
- TBC said...
Oooh, I like the looks of that Gamja Jorin(try saying that quickly 10 times :D).
I have to make this dish...it's so simple, but I don't have corn syrup or molasses to give it that lovely glazed look.
I'm always looking for new ways to cook potatoes. So, this one is bookmarked, Vani.:)
- April 3, 2009 at 11:19:00 AM EDT
- Vani said...
Priti - thanks. I loved the colors too, esp of the spinach
Sharmila, Sandeepa - yeah, the potato dish was the star :)
TBC - ha ha.. gamja jorinm gamja jorim..(forget saying it, even typing is difficult!) :) it sure was simple to make. Do try this, a bit of sugar syrup instead of the molasses might just do the trick
- April 3, 2009 at 12:39:00 PM EDT
- Arch said...
The spinach looks lovely. You pics are mouth-wateringly good ! Nice entries - must try the potatoes
- April 3, 2009 at 11:17:00 PM EDT
- DK said...
The potato dish is calling out to me! Looks incredibly delicious. Thanks for showcasing it for AWED korean :)
- April 4, 2009 at 1:27:00 AM EDT
- meeso said...
This is something different for me, and really looks delicious! I love the potatoes!
- April 4, 2009 at 9:32:00 AM EDT
- srikars kitchen said...
wow.. looks colourful.. delicious.. nice entry...
- April 4, 2009 at 12:08:00 PM EDT
- Vani said...
Arch, DK, Meeso, Sri - thanks all :)
- April 4, 2009 at 3:59:00 PM EDT
- jyoti said...
hi- great recipe
I made your watergate salad today and it turned out wonderful. You mentioned you are from central NJ, so am I, Parsippany to be exact - which town do you live in?
- April 4, 2009 at 6:54:00 PM EDT
- Cardamom said...
both those recipes have peaked my interest in Korean Cuisine....it looks so good!!
the spice who loved me
- April 4, 2009 at 7:06:00 PM EDT
- Linda said...
Hi Vani -- I have seen that spinach before -- I think there's something similar from Japan. Yours looks tasty and green -- but I have to say the potatoes really have my mouth watering! You've been cooking Korean -- I've been cooking Thai. I hadn't heard of AWED so now I will check it out.
The CCP Palya looks yummy, too :)
- April 6, 2009 at 12:41:00 AM EDT
- EC said...
Am stuck to the colour of the spinach salad...wonderful
- April 6, 2009 at 4:57:00 AM EDT
- Jaya said...
Never tried making or eating Korean food! but that's the beauty of AWED ,trying out untouched horizons ...look at the color of spinach so green and the potato dish seems to me so delicious..yeasterday while grocery shopping came across sambel olek here ..was little apprehensive about taking it ...next time I am going to get that and try making this potato dish ..
- April 6, 2009 at 5:09:00 AM EDT
- Kitchen Flavours said...
Wow looks yummy.......
- April 6, 2009 at 6:02:00 AM EDT
- A_and_N said...
Nice post Vani. Great job of discovering vegetarian Korean recipes. Some of my Korean colleagues give me a hard time about being a vegetarian :)
- April 6, 2009 at 8:58:00 AM EDT
- Vani said...
Jyoti - thanks for trying out the watergate salad and letting me know. Glad u liked it. Such a simple thing to make, right?
I live in Somerset county (cannot give too much info in this open forum!). Thanks for stopping by and hope to see u more often :)
(I'll be deleting this comment in a week. I hope you'd have checked back and read this by then!) :)
- April 6, 2009 at 4:02:00 PM EDT
- Vani said...
Cardamom - thanks! kab se elaichi ban gayi? :)
Linda - My first AWED enty too. This month is Japanese, I believe. ANd oh, I have an event for your Thai dish (if it's vegan) IAVW - Thai, hosted by Priya of Akshayapaatram. Thanks for your comment :)
EC- thanks! I think the blanching made the spinach greener :)
- April 6, 2009 at 4:08:00 PM EDT
- Vani said...
Jaya - you're right. Thanks to the events, we make an effort to try different cuisines or at least look into it. Korean food is fascinating. I'll trying to find a good Korean restaurant in my area to try other things that've caught my fancy :) Smabal oelek is great. It's a chili paste and I use it with most oriental cooking.
Lubna - thanks :)
A&N - thanks. Found quite a few vegetarian dishes in my Korean cuisine research. I hope to explore more about this fascinating cuisine
- April 6, 2009 at 4:18:00 PM EDT
- Shubha said...
yumm yummm.. thats looks beautiful and that Event is good too... :D will surely participate..:D Noe i have to research on korean cuisine.
- April 6, 2009 at 8:36:00 PM EDT
- Meenal Mehta said...
YUm-O ..will try it as asoon as I can eat normal foods again :)
- April 7, 2009 at 1:49:00 AM EDT
- Purva Desai said...
This is one healthy salad, the colours are soothing as well
- April 7, 2009 at 4:02:00 AM EDT
- Chitra said...
wow,what a tempting color,recipe looks yumm vani:)
- April 7, 2009 at 6:33:00 AM EDT
- ARUNA said...
the salad looks soooo green n gorgeous!!!Lovely colors!
- April 7, 2009 at 12:33:00 PM EDT
- Curry Leaf said...
Love the spicy potatoes and the spinach salad is breathtakingly beautiful.
Its nice to know we made the same dish (thgh yours was spicy and perfect) from same cuisine for the first time for AWED.
Mine was a very last minute entry.Well,great minds think alike
- April 7, 2009 at 3:09:00 PM EDT
- Vani said...
SHubha - AWED- Korean deadline was last Sat but this month is Japanese cuisine. Do participate in that. I haven't cooked Japanese so far. Gotta research :)
Meenal - what happened? are you on a diet of some sort? Will be over to check with you :)
Purva, Chitra, Aruna - thanks :)
Curry Leaf - I'm sure mine wasn't perfect, what with all the substitutions! :) Yours looked great too. Great minds do think alike! :)
- April 7, 2009 at 5:30:00 PM EDT
- Madhuram said...
Vani, nice knowing you through BC. I think I have visited once before. Did you participate in a Kids cooking contest in GCC? You have an excellent blog here. This post especially caught my attention with the colorful spinach and golden brown potatoes both very simple to prepare. I'm going to be a regular here.
- April 9, 2009 at 8:58:00 PM EDT
- Vani said...
Madhuram - thanks for stopping by. I haven't participated on a kids cooking contest so far - probably another Vani. hope to see you around!
- April 13, 2009 at 10:46:00 AM EDT
- AMIT said...
Too yummy thanks a lot for sharing.
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- maninas said...
oh brilliant! i'm so glad I found your blog! I had a similar dish at a restaurant in Edinburgh and loved it! I've been looking for the recipe ever since!
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The Charleston County Library system continues to see a huge surge in patron interest: from people attending computer and resume preparation classes, to those enjoying free writing workshops led by Charleston's best writers, to children's story hours, Metropolitan Opera simulcast and of course books, DVDs, CDs and more. And it's all free. For more than 30 years, The Friends of the Library, a non-profit, has been busy raising money to help the library support all of these exciting community events.
What: That BIG Book Sale
When: Friday, Oct. 11, 9 a.m.-7 p.m.; Saturday, Oct. 12, 9 a.m.-5 p.m. and Sunday, Oct. 13, 10 a.m.-3 p.m.
Where: Omar Shrine Auditorium, 176 Patriots Point Rd.
Admission: Free
Admission to That BIG Book Sale is free. Items will be half price on Sunday, with the exception of tote bags. A special preview sale for Friends of the Library members will be held during the evening of Thursday, Oct. 10 from 6 to 8 p.m. Checks, cash and major credit cards accepted. You can become a member of the Friends of the Library for $20 at the door.
The Friends of the Library is a non-profit volunteer organization dedicated to assisting the county library by providing annual funding for more than 7,000 community programs and classes which are free throughout the county's 16 branch library network.
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Do Your Research before Planting Trees this Earth Day and Arbor Day
Many people plant trees during the spring, especially around National Arbor Day and Earth Day. There are many environmental and beautification benefits to planting young trees. However, Safe Electricity wants to remind everyone to be aware of electrical hazards while planting this year. Always seek help from professionals when choosing and placing trees and bushes.
Trees that grow too close to electric lines can create shock and fire hazards as well as power outages. More importantly, children can become victims of electric shock when they climb trees that have grown too close to the power lines as well. Trees growing into power lines can also create electrical hazards for people who might be trimming branches, hanging lights or otherwise working around them.
"Trees provide many aesthetic, environmental and economic benefits" said Safe Electricity Executive Director Molly Hall. "But everyone needs to be aware of the dangers and risks created when trees grow into power lines, and the importance of calling the utility or utility locator service before beginning any landscaping project."
Take the time to research tree selections by consulting your local arborist, tree nursery or utility. These experts can provide assistance in designing a beautiful, shade-filled yard with trees appropriate for each area of the landscape. With their help, trees can provide economical cooling in the summer, and a wind-break for harsh winter winds.
In addition, trees help combat the effects of pollution by absorbing carbon dioxide (CO2). When trees grow, they take energy from the sun and combine it with CO2 from the air to photosynthesize. This makes trees a natural "carbon sink" or, a living source of carbon reduction. Some trees are better suited for this task than others and, according to the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE), tree species that grow quickly and live long are ideal carbon sinks.
Choosing the right tree for the right place is crucial, especially when it comes to power lines. Trees and wood in general can potentially conduct electricity and can create a safety hazard if grown close to electric lines. Power outages or momentary interruptions can occur when branches come into contact with overhead lines. Electrical arcing and sparking from a wire to a nearby branch can also cause fires.
"Keep in mind expected height when you purchase trees to plant this year," Hall said. "Just because a tree is far from the power line right now, doesn't mean it always will be."
If you have trees that appear to be growing into power lines, contact your electric utility. Never try to prune them yourself. Utilities have or can recommend skilled professionals trained to safely prune and trim trees for electric line clearance.
To avoid future electrical hazards, safe planting tips to remember include:
"There are many beautiful varieties of low-growing trees and shrubs that provide color, screening and shade, and enhance the quality of life in our communities and environment," said Hall. "Consider the types of trees that co-exist well with power lines and the environment to avoid the need for trimming for line clearance."


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We sincerely apologize to our fans, but unfortunately due to illness Billie Joe has been hospitalized, and we regretfully must cancel our performance in Bologna, Italy this evening. We are beyond devastated and will make it up to you when we come back next summer.
We sincerely apologize to our fans, but unfortunately due to illness Billie Joe has been hospitalized, and we regretfully must cancel our performance in Bologna, Italy this evening. We are beyond devastated and will make it up to you when we come back next summer.
peccato veramente.......
peccato veramente........almeno spero che tornerete a farci visita
............vi stimo GREEN DAY...................
Wow what a 21st century
Wow what a 21st century breakdown last Sunday guys, yeah shit happens but you sure did let a lot of Italian kids down.
Reading the posts here I'm really surprised at how complaisant your Italian fans are, maybe they are just used to being disappointed, times being what they are here. Anyway, as a reward for doing well at school this year I agreed to take my 14 year old daughter to see her first ever rock concert- Green Day. After months of anticipation we made the 4 hour drive up from Rome to Bologna, we then waited 8 hours in a cow field listening to bands nobody seemed to be much interested in, they were all there to see you! The exception for me was Social Distortion, an authentic punk band; as the singer hinted before the cancellation "Social D will never let you down" and they didn't.
After Social Distortion finished an energetic set, the bomb was dropped that Green Day would not be playing and we should all just go home and come back next year, just like that. Ok, I realize that Green Day has become very popular and has a very full schedule for years to come but I would like to make a suggestion in the form of a request.
Why don't you practice what you preach and don't become part of the subliminal mind-fuck America, step up and reschedule an Italian Green Day show without 5 opening bands and not necessarily in Bologna, and do it soon!
Although she is keeping it to herself the experience Sunday was heartbreaking for my daughter and I'm sure it was for most of the kids who attended Sunday's non concert, they are just too polite to say how really pissed off they are deep down inside.
Billie I don't know how my
Billie I don't know how my god fell Ill as I have heard that gods never fall ill and u r my god all guys and girls around him pls keep on updating us about him.U will soon get well as all green day fan power is with u .All my Love,Hugs,Kisses and warm wishes for u hope u will get well soon.I know u are recovering and getting better.Love u BJA and hope to see u sometime in India.And Green Day u rule my life.Seriously Green Day care a lot about there fans love u guys <3
I'm so happy that now Billie
I'm so happy that now Billie is well!:)
can't wait to see you next summer guys!
italy are waiting you!:)
Me and my sister were in
Me and my sister were in Bologna..... sad and concerned about the health of Billie Joe.
We were present in Milan 2009 and we know how much Green Day take care of their fans..... so we can imagine their sadness and anger.
Now the important is that Billie Joe feels better......... get well soon!
The festival was great: All Time Low very funny, Angel and Airwaves great performance and Social Distortion..... What a sound guys!!!
The perfect culmination would be the waited concert..... the waited big friends reunion! It will be for another time..... we will be in bologna next year.
Thanks guys for you music
Thank you for having post
Thank you for having post this message guys, it really shows that you're close to us (the fans).
Billie joe, I hope it isn't too serious, I'm sending all my courage to help you getting well soon.
I love you Green Day, you can't imagine how much you represent for me, you're part of me.
P.S I was at your show at Rock en Seine and it was THE best day of my life.
I love you so much guys <3
Take care
Get better soon Billie take
Get better soon Billie take your time and get healthy :)
Huge disappointment, and a
Huge disappointment, and a sense of discomfort that goes away...We know that it's nobody fault,and we hope that our beloved Billie Joe better son.This does not mean that now we have to wait another long year.But we are sure it will be wroth.A big hug guys!Fans Reggio Emilia (sorry for the english)
Guys i was in Bologna, and we
Guys i was in Bologna, and we were really a lot there, just for you. It's the second time that your concert has been canceled here in Italy and it's so frustrated. Don't you think so? I've "slept" (too cold) outside the arena, stayed stand from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. without resting, sitting or move, just to see you! And now we have to wait another year and it seems so far.. A lot of your italian fans are devastated, i could't believe that, i tought it was a joke, really.. Please try to understand us, Italy is always the only country that has just one date of the tour, just one possibility to see you, and people come from all the country, and for the second time it has been canceled, it was a shock. I miss you guys and I keep loving you, i hope to see you as soon as possible and sure that next concert in italy will be amazing.. but, another year without you, that really sucks :( Please don't let us down 'cause we do everything for you!
I was in Bologna, and I've
I was in Bologna, and I've been waiting this moment... I dont't remember how long. I love you guys cause you are adolescent-heads in an adult-bodies, but I'm sad. why you don't come in Sardinia? Really sorry for my english. By one of 30.000 fans who were in Bologna.
Greatest regards and wishes
Greatest regards and wishes from your Venezuelan fans, Billie. Get well soon, the world needs you!!!
we love you billie and wish
we love you billie and wish you well from israel!!!
I hope billie gets Well soon!
I hope billie gets Well soon! his illness is not too bad, is it? Good luck Billie
Get well soon Billie! Thank
Get well soon Billie! Thank you guys for the update!
I was in Bologna on Sunday
I was in Bologna on Sunday and I hoped I will see you first time, than I was very very sad... I hope Billie will get better soon. It is realy nice from you that you posed us a video. :) Please come to Bologna next year, I will be there fore shure!
Love you guys, Z
Italian fans are devastated
Italian fans are devastated and sad!
back before 2013 please!
Sorry guys, I'm Italian, I
Sorry guys, I'm Italian, I understood the message...but I'm not sure about a sentence. Did you say that Billie was hospitalized last night? So...did he feel sick on 1st September? And why did we know about this at 7:30p.m. on 2nd September? A day after! I think that the festival organization speculated on us, we bought food, drinks for an entire day... if I understood well and Billie was hospitalized really 1st September night Italian fans have to do something. They cheated us. If you guys sent this video to us BEFORE 7:30p.m. on 2nd September, please, tell us! It's really important! Anyway, we love you guys, come back soon and keep us dreaming! Hope Billie's fine now!
An Italian fan who was at Bologna and who has been waiting for this moment for 6 years ;( but will never stop waiting to see you!
I love you, xoxo
P.S.: Why don't you come to Rome? It's since 2000 that you don't return here..
(Sorry for the English)
Get well soon Billy!! Was
Get well soon Billy!! Was gutted when they announced it on stage, I'm sure you would of wanted to play but your health comes first!! Can't wait to see you back in the UK next year!! Yes I travelled with my parents and girlfriend to come see you guys in Italy! Thats how much we love you and the performance you guys put on! Speedy recovery dude!!
Yesterday I was there, in the
Yesterday I was there, in the front row, and I still can't believe that the show was cancelled. I've been waiting for Green Day to come back in Italy since the disaster in Venice in 2010: the show was cancelled there too. And now the same thing: after waiting for hours and hours to reach the front row and finally see them, my dream didn't come true. Again. I'm depressed, I can't stop crying. I hope that Billie is now fine anyway, I was very worried when I heard that he was at the hospital.
Just one last thing: I don't think it's fair to tell the fans "don't worry, we will come back next summer" because I suppose that there would have been an Italian concert anyway after the release of the three albums. You have to understand that we missed our chance to see Green Day TWICE, the Italian fans are devastated. After many secret shows in the USA or big concerts in the UK for example, don't you think we deserve something special too? We love you, please try to make us happy again!
Sorry for my English
A sad Italian fan
Get well soon Billie
Get well soon Billie! Rage and Love from the UK!
I was in Tokyo 2 weeks ago. I
I was in Tokyo 2 weeks ago. I was at St. James theatre twice. But in Bologna I was with my kids 7&9, with punk yellow hair and a Greenday t-shirt they created themselves. They want to have the Time of their lives rocking with yo'll, so come back soon...till next summer can be so long!!!!!!
Aww get well soon Billie! I'm
Aww get well soon Billie! I'm worried now... I sent something on Twitter and Instagram.
(I'd say in French: Bon rétablissement.)
Sorry about that guys. I'm sure you really really reallllyyy wanted to play that show. :(
I admire you a lot! And it's nice to post a video!
Lot of love, Ellyne.
(You were awesome at Rock Am See! Thanks a lot. Merci! ;) .)


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Christopher Robert Corthell, 43, of Bowling Green, died Thursday, Nov. 8, 2012, in Fremont.
He was born May 25, 1969, in Fremont, to Robert "Barney" C. and Mary Lou (Depinet) Corthell. He was a 1987 graduate of Fremont Ross High School and received a bachelor of arts degree in finance and marketing from Miami University of Ohio in 1991. Chris married Mary A. Davenport Nov. 22, 2003, in Port Canaveral, Fla., and she survives.
Chris worked as a para-planner for Ameriprise Financial, Bowling, Green. He was a member of St. Aloysius Catholic Church and the Knights of Columbus, Bowling Green. Chris was an avid OSU fan. He enjoyed traveling, exercising, swimming and spending time with his children. Chris had a very special bond with his grandmother, Dolores.
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Chris is survived by his wife, Mary A. Davenport-Corthell of Bowling Green; two children, Charles "Charlie" Corthell of Fremont and Kennedi Corthell of Bowling Green; parents, Robert "Barney" C. and Mary Lou Corthell of Fremont; sister, Connie (Jeff) Sessler of Fremont; niece and nephew, Kristin and Jordan Sessler; father-in-law, Randy (Theresa) Davenport of Green Springs; and brother-in-law, Kevin (Christie) Davenport of Berea.
He was preceded in death by his grandparents, Dolores and Cletus Depinet and Robert M. and Dorothy Corthell.
Visitation will be 2-4 and 6-8 p.m. Tuesday, Nov. 13, 2012, with a vigil at 7:30 p.m., at Wonderly Horvath Hanes Funeral Home and Crematory, 425 E. State St., Fremont.
His Mass of Christian burial will be 11:30 a.m. Wednesday, Nov. 14, at Sacred Heart Catholic Church, 550 Smith Road, Fremont, with visitation from 10:30-11:30 a.m. Father Kenneth Lill and Father Mark Davis will officiate.
Burial will be 10 a.m. Thursday, Nov. 15, at St. Joseph Cemetery, Fremont.
Memorials may be made to Sacred Heart Church, 550 Smith Road, Fremont; St. Aloysius Church, 150 S. Enterprise St., Bowling Green, OH 43402; or Bishop Hoffman Catholic Schools-St. Joseph High School Campus.
Online condolences may be left for the family at www.whhfh.com.


text: Ok - but when people talk about the death of the PC - they are not talking about servers. That's why your definition isn't the same as the one they are using. *- Chad W. Smith* On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Stephen Kraus <ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com>wrote: > Technically? Yes. A Server is just an overpowered PC. How is that NOT a > PC? Beyond the fact that you are arguing that its purpose isn't a > 'personal' purpose. Yet I can take a Server out of service, throw > practically any flavor OS on it, and it'll work. Hell, I had a server I > used for PC gaming for a long time, was one of the BEST gaming PCs I ever > had. > > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Chad Smith <chad78 at gmail.com> wrote: > >> So a super-computer array of servers is a PC - if they are using x86-64 >> CPUs? >> >> If so, then the PC is not going to die any time soon. >> >> I think that is *your* definition of a PC, and a fine one at that. But >> it isn't the same definition everyone is using when they talk about the >> "Death of the PC". Usually (and everyone is different, so this is not >> universally the case) they are talking about a Desktop or a Laptop - >> regardless of CPU, so an Apple ][ would count, and so would an iBook, and >> so would an ARM netbook running some form of Linux. >> >> The distinction is being drawn between a PC and a Tablet. So - to me, >> that indicates they are referring mainly to the form factor, not the CPU. >> The other distinction - and one you seem to be referring to when you >> mention the CPU - is the OS. Windows/OS X/Desktop Linux vs. >> iOS/Android/etc.. >> >> The problem is - Android can run on x86-64, what about Chrome? or an XP >> phone? And where does Windows 8 RM fit? >> >> I know you've answered some of those questions for your own understanding >> of it, and reasoning for it. But I think your definition being different >> from the people making those claims is one of the main reasons you think >> it's a silly thought, and they don't. >> >> If you defined PC the same way they are using it, then it might not be so >> unreasonable to think of the PC as dying. >> >> And, as we've discussed before - a format being "Dead" doesn't mean it's >> no longer used by anyone anywhere. >> >> Betamax is dead - and so is VHS for that matter - but people still use >> both. 8-Tracks, LPs, cassettes, floppy discs... SCSI drives.... Windows >> 95.... All "Dead" - but not completely removed from existence. >> >> (The office where I used to work had a Windows 95 machine running up >> until 2010.) >> >> *- Chad W. Smith* >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Stephen Kraus <ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> X86 or x86-64 is PC. Therefore Surface Pro is a PC. Android Tablet or >>> iPad? Not PC. >>> >>> PC must be IBM compatible. >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chugalug mailing list >> Chugalug at chugalug.org >> http://chugalug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chugalug >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chugalug mailing list > Chugalug at chugalug.org > http://chugalug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chugalug > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://chugalug.org/pipermail/chugalug/attachments/20131106/689a2d13/attachment.html>


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The actress, who may be in town to support her rumored beau, art dealer Vito Schnabel, 26, started her evening Wednesday at a private event at Alex Rodriguez's home. Arriving around 8 p.m., Moore, 50, was dressed in a short blueish-gray romper and funky black glasses. Sources tell PEOPLE that she seemed calm, friendly and relaxed.
"She didn't even have a drink in hand," a source added of Moore, who spent time in treatment earlier this year.
According to one guest, Moore spent much of her time at the party in close conversation with Stacy Keibler. "They seemed like good friends," the attendee said, adding that she also chatted with Owen Wilson and Martha Stewart.
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And as the evening progressed, Moore began to loosen up.
"Demi seemed to be dancing for the cameras," one party source said of the actress, who was surrounded by flashbulbs and was "acting flirty" with Lenny Kravitz. Another source at the party said Moore was drinking Red Bull, and: "Demi was wild and crazy and having the time of her life, in a world all of her own."
As for Schnabel, he was spotted at the party, though the two never posed for photos together. But according to an E! report, the two didn't hide their PDA, and were even making out during the party.
Perhaps they'll step out more publicly together on Thursday night when Schnabel is expected to throw his official party with Stavros Niarchos at the Wall/W Hotel.
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And we all know the story of Mao and Yuna anyway (triple axel; never finishing off the podium-- fine, okay).
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I would definitely put Michelle and Tara in the "lived up to their hype" category, although Tara's career was disappointingly, too short.
Just joined the Forums, from the ISU forums, hi all.
As far as Osmond's hype, people say she is being overhyped but this is due to her being consistent in her performances and results. Canadians was blatant inflation, but regardless she would have won. However Nebelhorn (where she beat Sotnikova, currently leading at Europeans) and Skate Canada (where she beat the world bronze medalist in Suzuki, after Suzuki had a poor SP) show that she's able to deliver in high pressure situations against top skater. This is not something that is typical of Canadian ladies skaters. People are touting her as the next Joannie because in such a short period of time, she has been able to develop strong jumps, a consistent 3-3 combination, and shows attack and vivaciousness in her skating.
As far as her technical merit being deserving, that is TES determined by how she executes jumps which is verified by technical specialists - the GOE on her jumps is often deserved, too.... She doesn't telegraph her jumps, puts transitions into them, and gets good spring and flow on the exit. Her coach, Ravi Walia, is a technical specialist and thus ensures that she's performing elements cleanly, except her flutz and an occasional lip. Her jumps are fully rotated, sometimes even over-rotated. Her spins could use improvement, but she's still obtaining good levels on them. Regardless of whether it was Nationals, Challenge, Skate Canada, she has put together three clean short programs (almost 4 at Nebelhorn), which no skater has done this season.
You can't deny that she's skating far better than anyone could have expected. Until she starts doing really poorly, I don't think anyone's at liberty of saying she's overhyped when she's actually matching the hype that she's getting.
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Savchenko & Szolkowy
Tara Lipinski
Bobrova & Soloviev
Patrick Chan
Katarina Witt
Nancy Kerrigan (even though I think she was robbed of the 94 Olympic Gold, most of her career she was overscored, overhyped, and overrated)
Oksana Bauil
Shen & Zhao
Zhang & Zhang (from 2005-fall of 2008, while being underscored and underrated from winter 2009-retirement and fall 2004 to earlier, a wierd combination)
Johnny Weir (not overscored, just overhyped by skating fans and journalists)
Fusar-Poli & Margalio
Lobacheva & Averbuhk
Woetzel & Steuer
Michelle Kwan (she is amazing, but not the god she was and is still potrayed as)
Miki Ando
Proclaiming someone will be the best thing to happen ice skating since the zamboni does nothing but attract negative attention the skater. So far Kaetlyn has done well...she's had a number of strong skates and achieved good results. Let her be happy with those victories and wish her well in her remaining competitions.
If what's going on with Gracie Gold has told us anything it's that over-hyping someone usually ends badly. Not only is it generating extra pressure for the skater to perform, but over-saturating the boards with how wonderful someone is and how badly they'll kick everyone's @$$ and how no one can compare to them generates some ill-will toward the skater from other fans.
I was sick of Gracie long before she debuted at SC thanks to all the send Gracie to worlds/Gracie's the best/Gracie is God crap that happened around nationals last year. People were hailing her as the second coming and she wasn't even a senior yet. Fans get too excited...
Please don't do the same thing to Kaetlyn. I really like Kaetlyn right now and I enjoy her skating; but the ceaseless promotion and comparisons in every single thread by some of Kaetlyn's more enthusiastic/overzealous fans is starting to touch a nerve with people. You think you're helping but what you're really doing is annoying the hell out of everyone and making them resent her...
Yu-Na was extremely hyped...twice as much as Kaetlyn or Gracie at this point. The good thing was Yu-Na actually backed it up. It's not hype if the skater delivers. Yu-Na was hyped to win worlds in 2009; she did. She was hyped to win everything in 2010 including an OGM; she did. Her return is being hyped to high hell too BUT if she has a successful competition at worlds, again, it won't be hype if it's a fact.
The problem with hyping skaters is that so few actually deliver on all of the promises the hype generates. According to over eager Gracie fans' proclamations about her talent last year, Gracie should have wiped the floor with everyone at her GP events, won the Final and should be sitting well ahead of the field at nationals right now...that was the hype. Reality: she's finished 7th, 2nd, no trip to the Final, and basically imploded in the SP yesterday. She has a chance to redeem herself tomorrow but the damage has already been done. When you don't deliver on the hype, it's 10x worse and people will tear you apart.
That's why I want people to chill out a bit with Kaetlyn b/c if she does make a mistake or doesn't do well everyone who's sick of her/doesn't like her will use that failure as ammunition...
I personally find it hard to get invested emotionally in young skaters. It tends to be only over the course of a career that I become invested. Once in a while, rarely (far less than once a year) a young skater or couple will strike me and I'll sort of be a fan from the get go. But for me that usually takes time, and so I really dislike all the hype in general here whenever anyone does anything remotely impressive one year.
I also agree that this thread is a bit of overkill. I would be happy to never see another Osmond thread as long as I live.
Er, mayhbe it's just me, but I'm starting to feel that the negativity thrown at Osmond is actually a little more than twice the amount of praise that I've seen for her.
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I think a common theme is that what some skating fans consider "living up to their hype" will be "falling short of their hype" for other fans. It's another subjective matter in the sport and fandom. Interesting to hear people's takes on it.
The potential in Gracie Gold is enough for me to watch her as an upcoming top skater. There was a thread earlier on whether she could "handle the pressure" that is being put on her.
There it is. From what I've seen of her Senior outings so far, I agree that she still seems like she's unused to the big stage. The skating fans who have seen her on the Junior circuit and in practices reported that she is steely and learns quickly, so they said I wasn't quite correct in my assessment of her competitive instincts, but it seems like she still hasn't shaken off her jitters.
Who knows how long it will take. It took YuNa right up to the Olympics to skate a clean SP & LP as a Senior.
So...do you guys think hype, even if it's excessive, ever does anyone good? Sometimes I feel that it does make judges start to pay more attention and boost the marks up a bit. Plus, it may help skaters generate support and sponsors.
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