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November 3, 2013, 01:31 AM
So as the title says guys what gun are you going to use for the hunt me ole reliable my dads 30 30 marlin 336
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November 3, 2013, 01:46 AM
For the gun season I have used the same rifle for the past 16 years...a Browning A-bolt II chambered in 7 mag.
For the primitive weapon season I'll use a .45-70 Handi Rifle (legal in MS for that season).
If I have the time to get it together I might even put a scope on my Ruger Blackhawk in .41 mag...I've been wanting to hunt with it for years but the timing has never worked out.
I picked up a Marlin 336 LTS this year and it would be really neat to kill a deer with it...but it's in such pretty shape I'm not sure if it will go to the field.
November 3, 2013, 01:23 AM
I use my 14" 7-30 Waters T/C Contender pistol for most of my hunting, but if I know I might be shooting at hogs over 250 yards away, I take my 300 WSM. Have been extremely happy with the results of both cartridges.
November 3, 2013, 02:37 AM
30.06 for open country 12gauge for heavy brush /swamps.
November 3, 2013, 04:03 AM
I have always used a Winchester model 88 in .308, but we just sold our property that is legal for rifle hunting. The only land I have to hunt on this year is shotgun only, so I'll be rocking the A5 for now. I'm in the market for a slug gun though.
November 3, 2013, 04:30 AM
Winchester 70 EW, McMillan Edge stock, Leupold VX-3 2.5-8X36 scope. Loaded with 130 gr TTSX's @ 3050 fps.
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November 3, 2013, 05:58 AM
Voere M98 in 7x64 with an illuminated Duralyt 3-12x50 on the top.
165gr Geco T-Mantel's.
November 3, 2013, 06:16 AM
I always try to kill the first deer of the year with my 1886 40-82. After that I will go to the 45-70, and then maybe the 38-70. Anybody who was any good would probably stick to the same rifle and learn it, but it makes little difference to me after enough years of shooting these rifles. I am an old man, and I can't see the front sight all that well in low light. Last year I shot one at maybe forty feet with the 40-82, so close that all I had to do was lift the barrel, and another one at sixty feet with the 38-70. Maybe the old rifles have a memory of my youth and their youth, and they don't let me down.
November 3, 2013, 06:26 AM
A Benelli Nova Tactical loaded up with Ddupleks slugs.
Ranges are close, the woods are thick, I really don't want to have to chase anything I hit.
KY Sparky
November 3, 2013, 07:08 AM
Marlin Model 30AW in 30-30 loaded with 160 gr. Hornady Lever Revolution. Topped with a Bushnell 3-9x32 or a Redhawk .44 mag w/ 6.5" barrel and open sights, depending on my mood. Even during gun season most of the deer I shoot are in bow range, either of the two listed above are very effective.
Lloyd Smale
November 3, 2013, 07:14 AM
a used 1a in 06 that i picked up eariler in the year.
November 3, 2013, 07:18 AM
Tikka T3 in 300 wsm for stand and field hunting and my Marlin 1895G for tromping through the woods.
November 3, 2013, 07:29 AM
Rem Gamemaster 7600 30-06 pump for longer shots. A Marlin 336 in 35 rem w/ iron sights for brush stomping. Really wish I would have gotten with it and put a peep sight on the Marlin, but oh well, it's sighted in with factory irons.
November 3, 2013, 07:29 AM
Remington 870 Express 12 Gauge loaded with Remington 3 Inch Magnum 000 Buckshot.
Just my .02,
November 3, 2013, 07:32 AM
Marlin 336 with 150gr power shoks. Open sights, have a cheap 3-9x32 scope, but my longest shot is 67yrds so I just use the sights since they have less chance of losing their zero. Kind of my Glock 30,in the event that I see a deer less than 12yrds while doing stuff around the place.
November 3, 2013, 07:58 AM
Marlin 336 in 30-30 with scope. I shot my first deer with this rifle when I was 16. I then started hunting in shotgun only county, but luckily the county switched to rifle about 12 years ago, so back to the Marlin.
November 3, 2013, 08:04 AM
Savage 99 in .308Win, same gun I am going to use for elk in about 3 weeks
November 3, 2013, 08:34 AM
The same rifle I use for varmit,hog,bear, and elk hunting.
M14S (308) 168gr BTHP
ARMS #18 mount, but I'm using iron sights this time.
It's all but replaced my old hoard of other hunting rifles since I built it back in 2006.
November 3, 2013, 10:53 AM
Marlin 45/70
November 3, 2013, 11:31 AM
Win 94 30-30, a virtual death ray.
November 3, 2013, 12:06 PM
Depends on the day, the weather and how I'm huntin'.:D
I generally use handguns as my primary deer gun anymore. So it could be the P.C. X-Frame .460 or the P.C. "Magnum Hunter" 629. Should I luck out early in the season, I may go back for the bonus deer with a 6'' 686. If I use a rifle, it means I am still hunting and/or jump shooting and odds are it will be one of the handgun caliber carbines, either the .357 lever, the .44 lever or the 77/44. The little Ruger has proven to be a great gun for that purpose.
November 3, 2013, 12:08 PM
My next rifle for a deer hunt would be my Swiss K 31 with Hornady 165 gr BTSP. Just plain jane open sights to boot. I have zeroed this rifle at 100 yrds and got a 1.5 inch grouping.
November 3, 2013, 01:19 PM
Same gun I've used for the past 10 seasons, Rem 700 in .270 win. I did replace the scope with a 3-9x40 VX-2 this year though. I may give the model 29 a try before it's said and done.
Loyalist Dave
November 3, 2013, 02:47 PM
Cabin Creek PA Mountain Rifle in .54 flintlock, using 70 grains of 3Fg under a patched .530 round ball. Out to 110 yards drops 'em like they were poleaxed. Don't use anything else for deer.
November 3, 2013, 02:58 PM
My lightweight Browning BAR in '06...........165 gr HPBT......57.0 of 4350.........DRT!
November 3, 2013, 04:49 PM
Three of us went out opening day. There were 2 Rem 700s one in 300 WM, one in .243 Win. I used my Rem 788 in .308 Win. Three shots were fired and 3 deer died in their tracks.
Arkansas Paul
November 3, 2013, 04:53 PM
Weatherby Vanguard .30-06
7.5" Ruger Blackhawk .45 Colt
I'm still trying to get a deer with the hogleg but haven't been able to yet. Hopefully this is the year.
November 3, 2013, 05:49 PM
Same gun I bought new in the 70's, just in a new caliber for this year. I shot out the original .25/06 barrel and had it rebarreled to .257 Weatherby. Wow, same 115 Nosler Partition at 3420 compared to 3080 in the /06. No deer tags this year but my Nevada antelope dropped like he was hit with a anvil.
November 3, 2013, 05:54 PM
Primary rifle is an old Winchester model 70 in .243.I've taken 2 doe with it so far this season.Backup rifle is a newer Ruger M77 in .243 161/2 inch barrel,stainless,laminated.Wet weather,brush busting gun.
November 3, 2013, 06:09 PM
My 257 weatherby vanguard series 2 first year hunting with it but I might also have to try out my new Remington model 783 in the 270 caliber.
November 3, 2013, 06:11 PM
My two oldest sons are going with me again this year (32 and 22 years old) and they use my rifles - a 742 Woodsmaster Remington in .30-06 and a Savage .308.
This leaves me with either a bow and arrow, shotgun, or the .54 caliber GPR. So the GPR it is.
This happened last year and I took the largest deer (body and antlers) I've ever killed. The boys were impressed with what dad's old blackpowder rifle did on that big deer. It sure was nice having those two boys to load that deer for me.
Two more weeks in Missouri until gun season opens.
November 3, 2013, 06:23 PM
I most likely will use my Kimber 84M .257 Roberts or if the weather is foul (or going for black bear) my Winchester M70 EW in 30-06. If with the boy he'll probably use a Remington M7 in 7mm-08.
November 3, 2013, 07:11 PM
A rem 700 in 30 06, Got a nice young 8pt opening day (firearm) Got one Doe with sticks earler this season.
Got plenty of hamburge / roasts &Back straps ; ) PS Good Luck to ALL
November 3, 2013, 07:41 PM
My old 7x57 will be used most.
second my 7 m.m. mag
November 3, 2013, 09:40 PM
I was going to use my .50 caliber CVA Wolf, but a few days ago, I realized this is the 50th season since I shot my first buck with my grandpa's old Remington M722 (.257 Roberts). There's a story behind that first one, but I'll spare you. So, Thursday I had off. Season opened Saturday (yesterday). I shot the gun at 50 yards to check the scope, spot on holes touching (it's a 1/2 MOA gun).
Second day of deer season today, got home from church and napped, then went to the blind for an afternoon hunt. First thing, a squirrel comes running down the sendero and stops 25 feet from the blind. I didn't have a .22 on me, then I remembered my NAA mini revolver I always have in my pocket. I mean, I had my snubby .38 on me, too, but I wanted something left to eat. So, before I could get the .22 out, the squirrel ran on down the trail out of mini revolver range (which ain't that far). SO, I clipped the mini revolver on my belt thinkin' if he came back up the trail, it'd be a little quicker to get at.
So, about 5 minutes elapses and danged of a small swamp rabbit didn't come hoppin' down the bunny trail in the middle of the sendaro the edge of which sits my box blind. He stopped about 30 feet out, I got in a hurry and missed, he hopped to about 50 feet out. Now, 50 feet is a range which I know I can hit bunnies with the mini revolver, done it before in the headlights of the truck, hit possums and such, head shot several snakes over the years. I've had this thing for near 30 years and carry it ALL the time. Second shot rested over the gun rest and carefully aimed popped him right where I wanted it behind the shoulder. That sorta made my day, I was happy. :D
I skinned/cleaned the rabbit real quick and was going to just set it in the blind, but I had an hour and a half to go until sundown, so I ran back to the house and put it on ice in a bowl, washed my hands, and ran back out to the blind.
Hour and a half later, it's getting dark. The feeder hadn't gone off yet, but I knew it was about to. Then, a little spike came out about 70 yards down the trail toward my back fence. He turned sideways, I could just barely see the spikes in the dim light. It ain't the spike I've been seeing on my camera, though, shorter horns, but a legal deer and my freezer being empty, I shot him right behind the shoulder. He died before he hit the ground in his tracks. The old rifle scored again, 50 deer seasons after my first with the gun. I'm happy. I've got deer meat, the old girl did it yet again, and I'm sure it'd make my grandpa happy.
Busy afternoon. I have the deer on ice and the nice fryer sized swamp rabbit in the freezer. I'll butcher tomorrow. No need to keep this little spike on ice. They're tender and delicious this size/age. :D I'm not going out in the morning, will wait until next weekend. NOW, the rest of the season will be to try and take either that wide 8 point I've been seeing or (not likely) a 10 pointer that showed up at night. And, as many rabbits as are running around here, I'll take 'em when I can with whatever I have on me. As for the rest of the deer season, I think I'll load up that CVA next weekend. I've taken one with it. It does the job and it's quite accurate if not .257 Roberts accurate. :D
November 3, 2013, 09:53 PM
Sauer 202 in .270 Kahles 3-12 power scope 130 grain Nosler Ballistic tips.
Kills like a bolt of lightning. Never had a deer take another step after that rifle hits them.
According to the knots on little leather thong on the sling that rifle has taken 17 deer
November 3, 2013, 10:47 PM
A Mosin T53 with a 2-7 power scope in 7.62x54r for any times when I won't be moving around. And my dad's (he doesn't hunt) Springfield 03A3 with irons for any times when I may be doing some walking through the woods (on account of the safety).
November 4, 2013, 10:03 AM
Same as last year, Swiss K31. Funnest deer gun I have ever used.
The Bushmaster
November 4, 2013, 10:23 AM
Winchester Mod 94 .30 WCF for the short ranges and brush and timber country that I've had sense I was 18. Browning A-bolt .30-06 with an old Redfield 3 X 9 X40 compact Gold 5 Star for those open country long shots.
Chevelle SS
November 4, 2013, 10:40 AM
Browning BPS Deer Hunter
November 4, 2013, 10:46 AM
Remington 700 in .308
November 4, 2013, 10:53 AM
8mm Mauser with 180 gr Nosler BT's with mojo sights.
November 4, 2013, 12:21 PM
Tikka T3 Lite in .30-06
Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40
Federal Fusion 180 grain soft points
November 4, 2013, 12:28 PM
Mosin Nagant 91/30
November 4, 2013, 12:29 PM
I do it like bushmaster does, mod 94 30 wcf when I hunt the thick stuff where thebig ones hide and win. mod 54 7x57 for other places. These were Dads rifles and have killed more game than I have seen. They fed the family back in the lean times.
November 4, 2013, 02:39 PM
No rifle hunting allowed for us in SW Michigan... :(
I'll be out in the woods with a 12-gauge Mossy 500 and a Super Redhawk .44 mag. My goal is to get one with the pistol if I can get a shot within range.
November 4, 2013, 08:10 PM
I just sighted in my $149 Remington 760 pump in .06. It'll be loaded with 57.5 gr of IMR4350 on top of a 150 gr Nosler ballistic tip. I've had it a while.
On my side will be a Ruger Redhawk with a 7 1/2" open sighted bbl.
In the county I live in, SG only I'll have an Ithaca Deerslayer with a 20" rifled bbl and Rem Premier Copper Solids with a Simmons 3 X 9.
Handi Man
November 4, 2013, 08:56 PM
Rossi Rio Grande in 45-70.
November 4, 2013, 09:11 PM
Think I will use my 2A1 this year...................
November 4, 2013, 09:19 PM
Marlin .30-30, Enfield .303 Jungle carbine, .351 Winchester of course. My meat gun is my older Marlin .30-30 which always gets the job done.
November 4, 2013, 09:24 PM
I used my .54 T/C flintlock for the early season, I plan on using my M48 Mauser in 8X57 with the 2x7 scout scope on it.
November 4, 2013, 09:35 PM
well good luck to all
November 4, 2013, 09:39 PM
Ruger super redhawk, open sights, 310g home casted bullet over 2400.
November 4, 2013, 09:48 PM
Marlin 336C in.35 Remington, Wild West trigger and ejector, Wolff hammer spring. Not many long shots where I hunt.
November 5, 2013, 08:00 AM
Hey jtrent what part of Missouri are you in also update I will be using my marlin 336 in 35 rem now instead of my dads 30 30 marlin I am sooo excited my wasn't planning on taking her out this is our first season togather. :D
November 5, 2013, 09:45 AM
Now that I've got one with my .257 Bob, as I've said, I'll hunt the box blind with my CVA Wolf, but the front blind has limited visibility to 40 yards and I think I'll use my 4 5/8" Blackhawk in .45 Colt, there. I've never shot anything, but paper with it. Load is 300 grain Honrady XTP over 18 grains or near abouts (have to look it up for the exact weight of powder as I don't shoot it very often) of 2400. Very accurate and powerful.
November 5, 2013, 11:51 AM
I'll be using my first "deer rifle" I've ever bought to kill my first ever deer. Tikka T3 Lite in .270 Win. using ammo I hand loaded myself. Should be a great experience for me. After that I'll probably use my most recent purchase a Mossberg 100ATR .30-06 most likely use factory ammo for this one.
November 5, 2013, 02:54 PM
*sigh* Here in Indiana we aren't allowed to use real rifles. Luckily I was able to obtain a really nice Marlin 1894 chambered for 45 Colt that doesn't offend the sensibilities of the great white fathead father in Indianapolis.
Hubby uses the 75 caliber double barrel rifle my uncle made affectionately called the "second chance" rifle. Some say the name comes from the second barrel, others that if you miss the wind from the ball knocks the deer down and you have the chance to climb down from the tree stand and hit it in the head with a hammer.
November 5, 2013, 03:23 PM
Sounds like the hubby with the 75 cal needs to invest in a tripod with a long string. Talkin about killing at both ends - mercy
November 5, 2013, 03:39 PM
Actually with Fg powder the recoil isn't all that bad. No worse than some 12 gauges I could mention. Two 48 in barrels and native oak stock makes for a lot of recoil eating weight. With the large grain powder though even with the massive size slug it has a better accurate range than a lot of smaller weapons when used by a skilled operator.
November 5, 2013, 05:20 PM
I built me a TC Contender rifle in 30-30 (16" custom barrel) this year. So I am looking forward to getting a kill with it. Darn thing is so light and short it feels funny. But my Savage .270 will be there too. So I imagine I will switch off and on depending on where I choose to hunt and how tired I am.
November 5, 2013, 07:00 PM
I generally shoot a buck first or second day with my Krieghoff,
Then shoot a doe or two after that with my Rem. 700/.240 Why. Mag.,
Many times i invite a new shooter to hunt with me and use my .240, like i did my 13yr old nephue last season,
November 5, 2013, 07:09 PM
Smith & Wesson .460 magnum untill muzzleloaders season, then TC pro hunter .50
We cant use rifles in the lower third of Michigan, just handguns, shotguns and ML.
Edit: We can use rifles on crop damage permits throughout the summer.
November 5, 2013, 11:14 PM
I hunt 2 blinds; an open 12' chair about 70 yards from the feeder. I hunt that one with a marlin 336 .30-30. The other is a closed box blind, 105 yards with a very narrow shooting lane and a heavily wooded (dark canopy) walk-up zone behind that gives a rare 200-230 yard shot. I have a lot of glass (bushnell elite 5x15x50 AO) on a savage weather warrior .308 that gets the most use there. Both are loaded with 150 grain Remmy corlokt.
November 6, 2013, 12:17 AM
last few year i have been using my .223 ar15. I hunt mainly in wooded area and in a treestand so no more than 100 yards. I have been successful with 55gr psp and this year perhaps loading my own ammo. I have a remington 7400 in 30-06 but retire it because of unreliable issues. Plan on building an ar10 or perhaps 6.8scp specifically for white tail.
November 6, 2013, 11:30 PM
I'm using the same old beat up Savage 110 in 30-06 with a Burris 3 x 9 Fullfield II scope. Same one I use for elk. Stock is a little beat up but that's from years of faithful service.
November 7, 2013, 12:42 AM
The same one I use every year. It is very quiet, but not as fast as most, and not nearly the long range but it gets the job done.I very seldom break out the rifles anymore. If I do it is usually the Savage .260rem or the AR.
November 7, 2013, 11:30 PM
Savage Mod 14 in .308win, Redfield Revenge 3-9x44mm (replacing with a Vortex or Ziess after this season).
Using fireformed brass, 43gr H4895 to launch 180gr Accubonds.
November 8, 2013, 12:12 AM
I am sitting back watching my wife and daughter hunt deer this season. I am using a suppressed Rem 700 in 300 Blackout with US Optics SN 3 for hogs though, 7 taken so far with sub sonic 240 SMK's. Wife using a M70 in 257 Rob with Swarovski atop. Daughter is using a suppressed Custom 260 Rem I built with a loopy mark IV shooting 140gr Bergers.
November 8, 2013, 02:41 AM
I will just use my trusty old SKS. Though I did upgrade to the 154gr SP ammo this year.
November 8, 2013, 05:32 AM
Got a 5 point buck and a nice doe early in the season with my 1968 Remington 760, .30-06 and a Nikon BM 3x9x50.
Not sure what I'll take next time ,now that the freezers full, possibly the Remington, 1917 also in .30-06.
Taurus 617 CCW
November 8, 2013, 08:29 AM
I have a custom built Howa 1500 in 30-06 topped with a Leupold VX-1 3-9x40.
November 8, 2013, 03:39 PM
Ruger M77 in 270
November 8, 2013, 06:33 PM
Around here I hunt in both rifle and shotgun zones. Can use a handgun in either zone so if I'm planning on being in a real thick area I'll bring the 7.5" Redhawk in 44 Mag with a 2x Leupold. Generally in a shotgun area it's the 12 ga. Rem 870 with rifled barrel and a 2.5x Leupold. This year in rifle areas it's gonna be the Marlin 30AS (economy model 336) that I inherited from an uncle and have worked up a nice hunting load with Speer 170 gr. flat points and put on a 1-4x Leupold cause I'm not getting any younger and those darn iron sights just don't look as good as they used to. If I knock down a deer and it's not dead yet then it's time to get out the German Luger that my late uncle brought home from Germany in 1945 and give the deer a round to the back of the head/neck area to put it out of its misery quickly. Did that on a buck 2 years ago that my 870 had incapacitated and it's a lot better than having to finish things from two feet away with a 12 ga. slug gun. Plus it's a great tribute to my uncle who hunted in his younger days. P.S. Besides; 9mm is a heckuva lot cheaper than 12 ga. Winchester sabot slugs.
November 8, 2013, 07:47 PM
If I get a chance, it'll be in an area where high powered rifles are out. I plan on using my Winchester Trapper .44 mag carbine.
November 8, 2013, 09:54 PM
1942 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant 91/30. Winchester 180 grain softpoints. No frills, no glass- just irons and a few little tweaks of my own. ;)
November 8, 2013, 10:16 PM
Bloodied Rock River AR-15 opening weekend on Runnels County whitetail. Used 64-grain Win softpoints that Leon Carr put together for me. All chest shots at shots 100 yards or less. Complete penetration on 2 out of 3. Deer ran between 25 and 50 yards and were easy to find. Meat for freezers.
Will probably go back to Remington 700 in '06 for hunting wheat fields - quite lush for a change. Also need to bloody a semi-new Mossy 12 gauge before extended season ends mid January.
November 9, 2013, 12:38 AM
I will be carrying my Ruger #1 in 7x57 this season.I finally got it shooting small groups after several years of working with it.We will be stalking the Sandhills in the morning.
November 9, 2013, 11:27 AM
Since my daughter jacked my .30-06 this year, I had to shoot my deer with my old .30-30 Marlin 336. If I get a shot at an elk I hope it's close.........;)
November 11, 2013, 07:58 PM
Southwest, Laclede county specifically.
November 12, 2013, 10:12 AM
Last weekend was my first weekend out this season. I hunted with a JP Sauer model 202 Forest chambered in .308 with Doctor Optic 3x9.
I took this buck at 250 yards and this pig at about 170 yards.
Next weekend out will probably be an AR-10 with Leupold Mark 4 6.5-20 scope and the Savage Hog hunter with Thunderbeast 30P1 suppressor and subsonic .220 grain bullets for critters at 100 yards or less.
Arkansas Paul
November 12, 2013, 11:49 AM
Well, I posted earlier that I would be using a Weatherby Vanguard in .30-06 and she did the job just fine. She barked twice Sunday and I now have a freezer full of deer meat and there is one less bobcat around to kill off rabbits and eat quail eggs. Good day.
November 12, 2013, 12:38 PM
Yesterday afternoon, I noticed my scope mount on my CVA Wolf was loose. :rolleyes: I brought it in and removed the scope and tightened things up with blue loctite this time. But, I need to shoot it to check sight in, so I took my main rifle, my stainless Remington M7 in .308, this morning. Only saw doe. This is my go to rifle when I don't want to take something else.
November 12, 2013, 01:23 PM
Sauer 202 Skan Euro in 6,5x55 with a Hawke Endurance 30 on top.
Couldn't get my Mini-14 to do what I wanted... (Yeah, I know, I'm not the first one.)
Next year it will be another scope. Or maybe another rifle if the gun-gods are happy)
November 12, 2013, 03:05 PM
Up dated from my post a few days ago.......My daughters first deer taken with a suppressed 260 Rem I built. It was an awesome experience with her this morning!
November 12, 2013, 08:09 PM
I took my first big game animal ever on sunday! A 2x2 mulie with my Weatherby Vanguard Series 2 in 30-06
Dave Workman
November 12, 2013, 08:13 PM
Got this buck with a Savage in .308 Winchester/Leupold 3-9X scope...Snake River north side.
About 200 yards. It's a 4x5-point mule deer. I used handloads with 165-grain Nosler Ballistic Tips. Hodgdon 4895 powder, Nosler brass and CCI primers.
I can smell the summer sausage in the smoker...
November 12, 2013, 08:23 PM
A plain old Winchester 12 gauge pump with a smooth slug bbl and iron sites. The old beater shoots great. I've got two nice bucks, two years in a row with it. Hoping for another in a few weeks.
Here in Taxachusetts we're limited to shotguns. A lot of guys have been using single shot H&R's with a heavy rifled bbl and sabots. Next best thing to a rifle.
I keep using my old Winchester and for the short distances I shoot it's been fine.
November 12, 2013, 08:51 PM
DubbleA Wow, your daughter shot a nice buck. Congrats to her.
November 13, 2013, 11:53 AM
^^^ +1!
I've always wanted to harvest a deer with darker antlers like that but most I've ever seen have had a white rack.
You guys get another prop for using a suppressor too!!!
November 13, 2013, 12:00 PM
A kitchen table built AR15 in 6.8SPC, A1 stock and rifle handguard on a 16" midlength gas barrel, BSA multi reticle sight. And a SIG P938.
The usual traditional stuff.
Arkansas Paul
November 13, 2013, 12:02 PM
Holy crap on a cracker doubleA. What a first deer. That rack is cool on so many levels. Dark chocolate colored antlers, a split G2, stickers on the left side. Lots of green at the base where he's been rubbing trees. Just awesome.
Way to set the bar high young lady.
November 13, 2013, 12:06 PM
Remington 700 BDL .30-06 where legal.
Winchester 1894 .30-30 where legal and in thick woods
Mossberg 5500 MkII 12 gauge and buckshot where rifles are not legal.
Need to pick up a muzzle loader...because where center fire rifles and slugs are not legal, muzzle loaders often are.
Beach Nut
November 13, 2013, 12:49 PM
I have two rifles that I use:
Marlin 336CS - .30-30 with a 160 grain bullet for woods, heavier cover
Savage 110 - .30-06 with a 150 grain bullet for open fields and places where
I might take a longer shot.
Ranger Roberts
November 13, 2013, 03:39 PM
I think I'll take out the trusty Marlin 336 in 30-30 to start this year. Most of the shots in my area are less than 100 yards. I hoping for my second deer (can't blame me for wishful thinking!) to take my sporterized mauser chambered in 30.06. I know the 06 isn't ideal for my particular area but I really want to give it a try this year.
Arkansas Paul
November 13, 2013, 03:41 PM
I know the 06 isn't ideal for my particular area but I really want to give it a try this year.
What are you talking about? A .30-06 is always ideal. :)
November 13, 2013, 06:44 PM
Ranger Roberts.
My third deer last year was shot at less than 10 yds with an .06.
Momentum let her get about another 10 yds.
I've shot a lot of deer with my Rem 760 pump .06 ( $149.95 in 1976) and never shot a deer over 100 yds.
The .06 is just fine.
I do have that Marlin 336 in 30-30 as well. :)
November 13, 2013, 07:21 PM
Nothing special but I have to tell someone. My new rem 700 270.
First animal with my own hand loads. Must say I was proud to pile her up right where she stood.
November 13, 2013, 08:22 PM
I'm going scopeless for deer this year. A couple of years ago I picked up a Marlin 336C in .30-30 for $159, I think. It was absolutely beat to hell. I cleaned it up and rebuilt it and added an XS rail with the ghost ring. It's shooting Federal 170 grainers at about 3 inches or so at 50 yards which is way good enough for me and where I hunt. My backup will be a 1946 Mosin M44 with either Wolf or Seller & Bellot 180 grain soft points.
I also just built an AR-15 carbine in .300 Blackout, but sadly, we can't legally hunt with semi-autos in PA. I'm hoping to take some hogs with it down south next year sometime though.
As always, my bear rifle will be a Marlin 1895M in .450 Marlin with a Nikon Omega 3-9X40.
November 13, 2013, 09:51 PM
A .50 caliber and/or a .54 caliber muzzleloader.
November 13, 2013, 10:04 PM
I carried my Tikka T3 in .308 on opening morning. I won't get to hunt again until next weekend and I might carry a BLR in 358 Win if I hunt in the woods. If I hunt from a tree stand it will be my trusty .257 Weatherby mag built on an Interarms Mark X commercial Mauser action.
For muzzleloader season the answer has been the same for the last 13 years: Savage 10MLII smokeless 50 cal.
Matthew Temkin
November 14, 2013, 01:48 AM
Winchester Model 70 in .308
November 14, 2013, 01:59 AM
My first year I hunted in a zone further north, using a Marlin 336 in .30-30. Didn't shoot at anything.
This year, about 65 miles south of last year's hunting spot, I was in the "shotgun zone". So my Mossberg 930 Waterfowl with a modified choke, $35 clamp on sights and Winchester 2 3/4" Super X rifled slugs was the gun I used. I shot my first deer Tuesday evening and it's in the freezer as of a few hours ago.
November 14, 2013, 02:44 AM
Took my first deer ever this year with my Savage Axis .308 with a Centerpoint 4-16x40 on top with Federal Power Shok 150gr soft points.
November 14, 2013, 01:29 PM
I always carry two rifles to camp.
This year will be my old Remington 600 Mohawk in .308 topped with a Leupold VX-1 2x7 scope.
Best walk hunting gun I have ever owned.
The other rifle is a Remington 700 LVSF in the very rare as hen's teeth .308 caliber topped with a Nikon Monarch 3x9 scope.
November 14, 2013, 02:04 PM
While I dont hunt deer I suppose if the right one presented itself to me I might try to poke a hole in it. Until that happens I'll continue to take out feral pigs with my little 300 Blackout. This 180lb boar took a sub sonic 240gr SMK between the ears last night.
November 14, 2013, 08:38 PM
New Hampshire's regular firearms, any deer, season open in my area yesterday. So yesterday and today I was out with my 7mm-08 Thompson Center Icon. I didn't see a thing...but that isn't the rifle's fault!
Before the season is over I'll rotate through my Savage 7mm-08, Savage 257 Roberts, and Icon 30TC until either the season is over or I get a deer.
If I get a chance to hunt a couple of towns over (a shotgun only area) I'll use my 20 gauge Mossberg 500 with Win Super X slugs. I tried several brands and the Winchester was the best, Remington a close second, and Federal struggled to even find the paper. Brenneke slugs look intriguing so I'll retest those sometime after the season is over.
I'm new to hunting and by the looks of things I've every reasonable angle on the shooting part of hunting covered. Now I hope I can learn enough about the stalking/tracking/finding the silly things part to get some venison on the table.
Good Luck all. Stay safe, shoot straight.
November 15, 2013, 04:06 PM
I have three deer guns I swap between depending on my mood. A marlin 1895 in 45-70 with barrel cut down to 16", a Browning BAR in 30-06 or my ar in 458 SOCOM
November 15, 2013, 04:55 PM
I'll be taking the M77 30.06 tomorrow for the firearms opener in VA. Hoping to find the 6.5x55 I've been searching for so I can take that every other time I go this year.
November 15, 2013, 07:25 PM
My Dad's M1 Garand rifle in '06 and M91/30 Mosin Nagant sniper rifle:D
November 15, 2013, 10:48 PM
My son will carry my Remington 7 .308 My daughter will use my Remington 600 .308 both with Redfield 2X7. ( Letting my kids get them this year)
We will use the same for hogs this spring.
November 16, 2013, 03:07 PM
Started off with a PSE Dream Season DX then moved on to a Remington 700 CDL in .270 which I took a doe last week with. Now I'm using the 7.5 Inch Ruger Redhawk 44 magnum with 240 grain SJSP.
November 16, 2013, 04:17 PM
Marlin 1894 in 44.
November 17, 2013, 01:00 AM
REM 700 bdl in 7mm express topped with talleys and a burris ffII
November 17, 2013, 06:48 AM
I use these tools to topple deer every year:
- Mad River canoe
- API climbing treestand (with safety harness)
- Marlin 30-30 carbine and Power Point ammo
November 17, 2013, 10:26 PM
Tikka t3 Lite in 270. The rifle has never let me down and has always put the bullet in the cross hairs. It has added a deer to the freezer the last two years.
November 18, 2013, 09:15 PM
My new Ruger Gunsite Scout 18" SS.
Haven't fired a round in the woods yet, but I can't wait.
November 19, 2013, 11:20 AM
I don't know if it's really true that .30-30 has killed more deer than anything else, but I'm doing my part to keep it up.
Yesterday morning, one shot with a 170gr Core Lokt from about 100 feet. She took a step and fell.
My property is 40 acres that was a Christmas tree farm, now it's just a whole bunch of pine and spruce trees. I don't really need anything capable of 500 yard shots, because they just don't exist here, although I do have a Weatherby Vanguard .25-06 in the closet.
SC Shooter
November 19, 2013, 04:53 PM
I am hunting this year in Southern woods with a lot of brush and undergrowth in the woods, so I dug out my Winchester Model 94 .30WCF with an open site. If I am in more open country, I use a Remington 7400 .270 cal.
Doug S
November 19, 2013, 06:46 PM
My son and I are using a Ruger M77 Mark II, and Remington M700 ADL both in 243 caliber.
Wolfgang james
November 21, 2013, 08:15 PM
I took a deer at 40yds the last Sat of bow with my Parker wildfire shooting slick trick mags then last Sat was opening day and I took another buck at 60yds with my t/c venture .270 shooting ssts. I may pull out my Mossberg935 (yes I do have a rifled slug barrel on it) just giggles
November 21, 2013, 09:55 PM
I've been rotating between the Mossberg 500A 12 ga. with Remington Slugs, and the Lee-Enfield .303 with some sort of old military surplus ammunition.
November 22, 2013, 01:22 PM
1889 marlin cal. 32-20
November 25, 2013, 04:58 PM
Started with my Savage 308 and took a nice doe. Now for a more of a challenge im dusting off the 91/30 Mosin for some open sight hunting.
November 26, 2013, 12:14 AM
Normally I use muzzleloaders throughout the regular season. Never much liked deer hunting with shotguns even though I have a couple that are very accurate with slugs.
This year, for the first time in my lifetime, rifles were approved for big game hunting in my area. My little 788 Remington .308 carbine really surprised me with the accuracy of a Varget handload I tried and I planned to use that.
Then on reflection, the proximity of houses (on the other side of a couple hundred yard brake of trees) made me nervous. Ended up choosing to go with an 1894 Marlin in .44 magnum shooting 240 gr. JHPs over a near max. load of 296. Figured the muzzleloaders never caused any problems so I'd be better off with something delivering about the same ballistics.
The Marlin did the job as I collected a large 11 pt. buck with one shot on Friday. Range was about 50 yards.
November 26, 2013, 08:04 AM
Ruger American in .243, Redfield scope. took 6-point opening day rifle at 3pm.
November 26, 2013, 10:20 AM
Model 70 Winchester w/ BOSS, 7mm Rem Mag, Federal Premium 160 gr. Accubonds....one shot, dead deer :)
Lazy R
November 26, 2013, 12:50 PM
Once in a while I use my Marlin lever or my Super Blackhawk, but typically it's my 700 BDL .270.
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November 26, 2013, 01:11 PM
Hi Lazy R,
Please forgive me but I come from a state where real rifles aren't allowed for hunting. Is a 270 big enough for deer without critical shot placement? I know my 243 will quickly and absolutely ruin a coyote's good day but I've never thought of it as a deer rifle.
Doug S
November 26, 2013, 01:52 PM
Both the 243, and the 270 are totally adequate for deer. Without question.
Lazy R
November 26, 2013, 02:27 PM
The .270 is very adequate for deer. We shoot some pretty large mule deer here, and in the terrain where I hunt shots can be long. Typically though only about 200-300 yards and the 270 plants them hard. I shoot 130 grain Sierra Gamekings at just under 3000 fps.
My son shoots a .260 Remington (.243's big brother) and it also is very effective. Any decent shot is a one shot kill. His longest with it is 360 yards on a big mule deer and it was DRT one shot. 120 grain Sierra Gameking going just about 3000 fps.
I have shot one bull elk and used my .270 for it also. Used a 150 grain bullet going around 2800. He ran about 75 yards and piled up.
November 27, 2013, 12:31 AM
I used my 9mm AR15 for my doe.. have been using a 30-06 for my buck just because it's already setup and ready to go...
November 27, 2013, 09:32 AM
The rifle season for me is over but I used my new 300 BLK chambered AR-15
I was really amazed at how well the 300 performed out to about 140 on some big Mn deer. My girl took a heavy bodied buck with it (First Deer) and I took a freezer doe at about 80.
November 27, 2013, 04:10 PM
It's shotgun only where I hunt. I use an H&R Pump with an 870 Shurshot stock with a 2.5x Tasco. It's very accurate with the Federal fusion sabots.
If by chance I do get an opportunity to hunt in a rifle zone, my Marlin XS7 in 308 with a weaver 4-10x44 and Boyd stock will come with me.
November 27, 2013, 04:33 PM
I enjoy the diversity of ways available to take deer. I'd like to add a recurve bow and a .357 handgun to this list soon. Here are my current deer slaying setups:
Fred Bear TRX32
65lb draw weight
100gn, 4 blade Muzzy broadheads
Shotgun: (son)
Mossberg 500 12GA with a 20" smooth bore and a Houge youth stock.
Cheap Bushnell red dot
Rio Star Low Recoil 12GA slug
Picture can be seen here:
Shotgun: (Me)
H&R Ultra Slug Hunter 12GA
BSA Catseye 1.5-4x Scope
Remington Core Loct 385gn 12GA slugs
CVA Optima 50 cal.
Vortex Crossfire 3-9x Scope
Hornady 250gn SST /w low drag sabots
Blackhorn 209 - 77gn charge by weight
November 27, 2013, 07:09 PM
So as the title says guys what gun are you going to use for the hunt me ole reliable my dads 30 30 marlin 336
During last few years, Remington R-25 in .308, w/ Meopta 4-12x50 & 45° offset iron backup sights. Usually with fairly hot 150gr Swift Scirocco 2 handloads, even though this one bit Norma Oryx factory load a few days ago...
For driven hunts I have a Ruger Deerfield .44 carbine, with a 50yd parallax Zeiss shotgun scope.
(sorry, I had to post the pic; even though I've shot more than my fair share of does, this is my first real trophy-size whitetail buck ever, and I'm over the moon. :D)
November 28, 2013, 12:46 PM
^^awesome deer. Congrats!!
November 30, 2013, 03:48 PM
^^Thanks! :)
November 30, 2013, 08:15 PM
I will be using a ruger 77/44 with a redfield 2-7 scope. That is a 44 magnum bolt action carbine 18.5 barrel, for those of you who are unfamiliar with it. Effective range is about 150 yards. I hunt in thick woods so its all I need.
Oh and I carry a desert eagle in 50ae just in case I am feeling frisky, lol
November 30, 2013, 08:37 PM
hoping to get out at all this year..... if i do ill probably be using my marlin xl7 in .30-06
December 1, 2013, 12:03 AM
Tikka lite 223.
December 3, 2013, 08:23 AM
Used my Ruger P944 40 S&W yesterday on a button buck but as soon as my 7.62 x 54R M44 is sighted in I am going to try to get one with it. Doc raised the weight limit allowed on my arm so I should be able to use it now. Had surgery on it in August so it is still healing.
P.S. update after cleaning the deer I came to the conclusion that this year's hunt is over for me. Until they can fix my back it is just too hard on me. I can hardly move today.
December 3, 2013, 09:07 AM
Winchester Model 70 in .270.
December 3, 2013, 11:25 AM
I've been letting the load, not the gun, dictate what goes with me. I have a lot that I am TOLD will kill deer, but you never know until you shoot them. So far this season, that has involved a .300wsm (Nosler BT, Varget) and an 8mm (Barnes TTSX, IMR 4895). Next up will be the savage (.308) or the Mosin Nagant. Not sure which, but the loads need to be tested on deer before I can tell people what my "favorite deer load" is, which will certainly happen between now and next season on this very site.
Seeing as I didn't answer your question... I'll be using a remington 700, an AR 15, a VZ24, a MN 91/30, and a Savage 110.
December 4, 2013, 08:48 AM
Since I hunt thick cover from ground stands, I use a 12 bore Remington 870 with a 26" vent rib and bead sight system firing Dixie TriBall buckshot through a Briley extended full choke.
December 6, 2013, 03:49 PM
Remington Model 700, 30-06 150 Grain Core-Lokt. 1 Down and hopefully more to come.
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Michel Chapoutier: Rhône Ranger
"It's like the smell of a blackboard," says Michel Chapoutier, rubbing his fingers together and smiling. "Do you remember at school? Just after the teacher had finished dusting?" he asks, holding a glass of golden white wine. "That smell of chalk?" He's right, the wine in question does smell of chalk but there is also a little lemon. However absurd they may seem to a novice, to the experienced wine taster these aromas point to one variety and region: Riesling and Alsace—which is precisely what we are drinking.
It has been more than four years since winemaker and negociant Mr. Chapoutier traveled north from his native Hermitage, the most famous appellation in France's Rhône Valley, to Alsace where, he recalls, over many bottles of wine, he thrashed out a deal to buy a share in the 4.8-hectare Domaine Schieferkopf in Bernardvillé. While its 2009 Riesling has the distinct whiff of chalk, the wine is an age away in terms of taste and grape variety from the thrilling reds made from Syrah that for more than 200 years sold around the world, helping shape the family business: M. Chapoutier. But in terms of philosophy and style, the Schieferkopf Riesling is very much at home in the Chapoutier stable, a portfolio that now stretches out of the Rhône Valley, to include Alsace, Australia and the Roussillon.
This is a wine that doesn't seek to overwhelm, to scream "Look at me!" Rather, it pairs well with food, expresses purity, floral characteristics and, of course, the mineral aspect of the soil. In short, it is Old World, expressing the nature of the vineyard. As Mr. Chapoutier puts it: "It's more Baroque than disco."
Since taking over from his father, Max, in 1990, Mr. Chapoutier has stamped his unequivocal personality and imprint on the wines and the business.
A ball of energy, time in his company is peppered with humor, snippets of his own philosophy, entertaining and unlikely revelations ("That was the time when I was drinking four bottles of Champagne a day") and controversial, outspoken opinions. For Mr. Chapoutier, climate change will see an increase in rainfall, which in turn could dilute and divert the Gulf Stream. If this happens, he says, many regions in France, which have the same latitude as Montreal, could become considerably cooler; and it may, in his words, "end winegrowing
in Britain."
Then there is Bordeaux, a region that, in the 2009 and 2010 vintages, increased its prices substantially, after two exceptional, high-quality years. Some would say it was reaping the benefits of its global appeal. Not Mr. Chapoutier. "The mistake of Bordeaux," he says, "was to think only of China. In the wine industry there are people who love wine and there are people who love money more than wine. Of course, the goal of everyone is to earn a little more. But when you see a region giving huge allocations to a new market [to the detriment of old markets like Northern Europe and the U.K.] you are seeing the passion for money, not the wine."
Consumers, he argues, are looking elsewhere and growing tired of Cabernet Sauvignon and Merlot, two grapes he admits are great to work with. His Les Granits is a case in point. Made from the Marsanne grape variety, it is a white wine with low acidity that has a herbal, nutty character. "I am not obsessed by acidity in white wine," he says, between sips. The overall feel is of a soft white wine that is delightfully easy to drink. He explains it isn't the acidity that enables it to develop and age but the dry extract, the phenolics and minerals, the quantity of which, he says, is the key to white-wine making. That and every other French winemaker's obsession, of course: terroir, by which he means the climate (which includes the microclimate and vintage) and the soil (slope and aspect of the site). Of course, the human touch is equally important, he smiles. "The importance of tradition and know-how." And with that he stabs at his BlackBerry, transmitting another set of winemaking orders back to the cellar.
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THE PSYCHEDELLIC sounds of the 60s will be coming to the Second City thanks to a Bromsgrove writer.
The first full theatre production of the gritty and groovy musical 3 Summers by Euan Rose will run from Tuesday (June 17) to next Saturday (June 21) at The Library of Birmingham's new Studio Theatre.
It follows the story of four young women who follow their dreams and ambitions whilst living in a shared house with reclusive 1950s singer Freddie Savage.
Set against a backdrop of revolution, flower-power, sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll, the production is packed with original songs and music.
It is being premiered at the Birmingham venue before it is taken on a national tour and then hopefully to the West End.
The music has been penned by Nigel Wright, from Redditch, and it is backed by theatrical impresario Laurie Mansfield who earned a star on Birmingham's Walk of Fame in Broad Street last year.
3 Summers was first performed as a workshop at Bromsgrove's Artrix in 2011 and this polished version has come after a lengthy development process involving Euan and Laurie's theatrical partner Bill Kenwright.
Euan said: "It has been amazing to have the support of Laurie Mansfield and, through Laurie, Bill Kenwright.
"Between them they have been responsible for most of the West End's biggest shows over the past 20 years so the fact they believe 3 Summers has the potential to be a hit is fantastic."
Euan, a Fellow of Birmingham City University, was also responsible for the story of Wallop Mrs Cox which played to sell-out crowds at The Rep and The Hippodrone in 2010.
And Euan also penned the Charlotte Badger musical, based on the first female Australian pirate who was from Bromsgrove and was given penal servitude in New South Wales. That production received plenty of critical acclaim when it was performed at the town's Artrix.
Euan experienced musical life in the 60s himself in several bands including The Ekos and The Cheetahs and shared bills with The Beatles in Hamburg. Nigel was a fellow band-mate during that time.
Speaking ahead of the premiere, Brian Gambles, the Director of Library of Birmingham, said: "We are thrilled the first musical to be performed in our exciting new Studio Theatre will be a world premiere.
"3 Summers promises a genuine taste of the 60s and we're proud to be the first venue in what we are sure will be a long and successful run."
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Kennedy mystique lives on
November 23, 2013
"It is from numberless diverse acts of courage and belief that human history is shaped each time a man stands up for an ideal or acts to improve the lot of others or strikes out against injustic....
Oh I remember that day, I was working on building a new church on a union carpenter crew in New York City. What I'm about to say may disturb some and take some of the shine off Camelot. But that afternoon when the story hit the airwaves, I remember the brick layers and some of the laboror's cheering his death at that very moment. Yes I was in shock and disbelief and numbed by the news and even disturbed when I asked a mason why he was glad, politics back then was just as ugly as it is today. I was 19 years old and within a month I was stationed at Fort Dix, NJ in a reception area previous to 8 weeks of basic training, Dec. 1963, and my first 3 year regular Army enlistment, I was to go on to serve 6 years.
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But what we find out of Camelot after the President's passing were often told long before in conversation, in barrooms, nightclubs, social gathering's and political opponents, often times in whispers. Did Oswald act alone, I believe there were at least 2 shooters, that magic bullet theory just don't cut it. Besides Kennedy did have enemies and the one that somehow didn't seem right was the appointment of Allen Dulles to the Warren Commission investigating Kennedy's death. Allen Dulles was the CIA director fired by Kennedy further indicating a cover up by the CIA. The mafia too also was of interest with government influence in Operation Mongoose who were planning an invasion of Cuba and the sole purpose was to take out Fidel Castro. Odd JFK was in bed with the mafia and meanwhile his brother Robert was the US Attorney General*****bent on prosecuting Union bosses who were influenced by mob bosses putting Jimmy Hoffa in prison in a scandalous court battle.
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Hoffa was the boss of the Teamsters Union. Marilyn Monroe was another mystery of death by suicide or drug overdose when I believe the CIA took her out because she knew too much after the pillow talk with both JFK and later RFK. Robert Kennedy suffered the same dilemma as his brother killed by Sirhan Sirhan. CIA surely seemed like they were covering their tracks well. I sometimes agree that the plane containing JFK's body along with Vice President Johnson was more of a getaway than a takeoff, Kennedy was ready to dump Johnson as VP for his next campaign, there was no love lost there and the Pentagon's involvement not happy with JFK's plans for the war in Vietnam. Let alone the anger with the Cuban Exiles and the Bay of Pigs when Kennedy gave the stand down order for bomber's ready to hit Cuba. John F Kennedy had lot's to answer for in any event, like I said he had lot's of enemies.
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I liked John F Kennedy and thought he a good man, in spite of his personal life. Joseph Kennedy made his fortune during prohibition running booze from Canada and was very involved with the NY Mafia families. Joseph Kennedy was John and Robert's father.
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The kennedy crap does NOT live on. Only liberal media keeps talking of it. No one I know even CARES!!!! Get over the love affair with these drunks, sex perverts and murderers.
Liberal media once again attempting to 'tell YOU' what you should be interested in. Pfft!
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It looks pretty clear to me Davis & White will regain their World title and set themselves up as the likely gold medalists at the Sochi Olympics.
It looks pretty clear to me Davis & White will regain their World title and set themselves up as the likely gold medalists at the Sochi Olympics.
Not sure about that. D/W and V/M seem to alternate being on top every other year so who knows what will happen next season.
There is no Guarantee that D&W will regain their world title.
V&M were third the year before Olys.
Ice is slippery
VM have a very challenging program.
V&M are a great team but I really think D&W are finally pulling ahead in the rivalry. They have beaten V&M in PCS in every head to head program this year, including the one they lost. I would be surprised if they dont win Worlds this year. I didnt guarantee them winning the Olympics next year, just that if they win Worlds (which I think they will) and conclude a season of 3 straight wins over V&M, they will enter the Olympic season as the favorites.
As for ice being slippery, the one event it is not slippery is ice dancing. How often do you see a fall or major mistake, 3% of the programs maybe. It comes down to who is dancing the strongest, who has the best programs, and which program and team the judges like more.
It would certainly make for an even more Uber! Dramatic! Olympic Year! if D/W do. To quote Willy Wonka (from the wonderful version with Gene Wilder), "The suspense is terrible... I hope it'll last."
One thing is for sure Charlie and Meryl have Sochi in their sights and are putting the medal to the metal. I love how they never rest on there laurels.
why is it that when a team wins, fans act like they will now always win and when they lose, fans act like they will always lose. i remember last year, v/m win and there was a thread just like this, saying that d/w are hasbeens as v/m have pulled ahead. get a grip people.
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I think after Vancouver, Meryl and Charlie sat down and made a plan for Sochi. 4 years ago, they were where many of us thought was the top of ice dance at least from a packing a program with difficulty standpoint...there was a moment where I think we thought "so now what? where do they go from here? how do they raise the bar?" And they've gone on a step by step process season by season to improve little things. They've always been good storytellers on ice with their athleticism/speed and intensity, but they have really pushed themselves. First there was upping the technique and technical skill in their tango, then there was interpreting a program to be a full performance from start to finish that transports the audience to a specific time and place with Die Fleidermaus, and this year they've focussed on the nuance of emotion and using choreography to their advantage. When you put this all together, you can see all the things that they have worked on seemed a little risky/pushed their boundaries, but every year they've delivered, and it's really benefitting them. They've been so consistent, that it's amazing that every skate they do it has been an improvement...and with Sochi a year away, I think it's safe to say, that V/M and D/W rivalry is as strong as ever. V/M have the advantage in some regards (having won in Vancouver, having the better "look" on ice, being better performers, also being the more naturally gifted partnership), but D/W have pretty much done everything they can to make sure that the gap (that 0.04 pt gap from 09 Worlds) really doesn't exist anymore. I adore Tessa and Scott, but the skating they've been putting out on the ice doesn't show that they want it as much as Meryl and CHarlie. I still love watching them, but i just dont' think they have the advantage anymore. D/W have been winning the PCS battle all season, and I think they've been more successful with the SD since it was introduced than V/M so I can't wait!!!
Reynolds just won the Men's title, ice is slippery, don't get all clairvoyant on us, some of us want to be somewhat surprised
So much of ice dance results depend on picking good music and having a good program to it. I wouldn't make any predictions till after the GPF next year (I expect both teams to avoid 4CC's 2014).
I do think D and W will world and oly gold. The momentum is with them; it appears with pcs that is key the judges like them. However, V and M could regroup. I don't think D and W will take any huge risks but wheras V and M have; I hope Both teams put out their best. VandM are prone to injuries and errors so they need to really want it. Losing might be good; rework their technique and stroking and lifts. Get a real jammed pack program; stay right behind D and W like in a race and then shock them at Oly.s that's the strategy. i give V and M credit for trying different stuff.
With Virtue/Moir and Davis/White so closely matched, minor mistakes from either team can determine their placements.
The gap in their Four Continents SD scores was not even half a point.
Ice is slippery.
Question for mods:
Is the OP's thread title kosher??
"Davis & White to regain World title" is the OP's opinion, not a fact.ETA: Adding a question mark would make all the difference.
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I happen to love both of them, and I feel just incredibly lucky to have such skating riches laid out before me for not one but two Olympic cycles, so maybe I'm not the one to ask. (Besides, I'm no technical whiz when it comes to analyzing each step and element.) One reason I'm rooting for D/W this time around is simple symmetry: I want both of them to have the satisfaction of an OGM. Also, I lost my heart to D/W because of Die Fledermaus. But if V/M win at Sochi, I'll be thrilled for them as well, because they're also astounding. I wish they could just tie every time they skate. (I feel just about the same for YuNa and Mao. I'm probably no use at all as a fan.)
This was a bad week for V/M and not for D/W. It was a bad week for Daisuke. It was a banner week for Mao. Next month may be different. But make no mistake, all of the skaters I've cited here are gems of the first water, wherever they end up at any competition. We are so lucky right now just to get to see skating like this.
My only wish for them all is that they stay completely, totally healthy, every last molecule of them, so we can see them all at their very best in every competition from now on. Yes, I'm greedy.
it's like technically you guys admit that these two teams are soooo close to each other, but you're just desparate to assert the dominance of one over the other and desparate to declare hasbeen status.


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The finish line is in sight – and as the final five contestants fight to be the winner of American Idol, the competition is fierce. Just like last week, the contestants brought top-notch performances, tackling classic songs from the 1960s and the British pop songbook.
No one seemed to fight harder than Hollie Cavanagh. After another appearance in the bottom last week, she delivered Wednesday with a high-energy version of Ike and Tina Turner's rock-soul rave-up "River Deep-Mountain High," which found her shimmying and shaking across the stage while wearing sky-high heels. For her second tune, she brought tender emotion to Leona Lewis's "Bleeding Love."
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Still, the judges continued to praise him for his individuality – "You Phillip Phillips'd it," said Lopez – and the crowd reserved some of the biggest cheers for the man who has emerged as this season's heartthrob. (His female fans might be disappointed: Ryan Seacrest revealed that Phillips's girlfriend was in the audience supporting him.)
Joshua Ledet and Skylar Laine also received high praise from the panel. But the only piece of criticism tonight was given to Jessica Sanchez, who avoided the bottom three last week. Jackson didn't love her version of Creedence Clearwater Revival's "Proud Mary," which was also performed by Ike and Tina Turner. "This performance was barely okay," he said. "You took on the biggest dragon of the night, [Tina Turner]. It didn't quite sit with me."
Still, she rebounded with her second song, Billy Preston's "You Are So Beautiful." "This girl's in the top of the leader board right now," said Jackson.
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The MINI of Charleston Racing Team made a statement the first week of May by using the SCCA Majors Tour event at the two-mile Summit Point Raceway in West Virginia to dominate both classes the team competes in for the SCCA National Racing Series.
In B Spec, Robbie Davis dominated and won from the pole both days, setting a new lap record of a 1:33.033 (just under 90mph). The drive was his last tune-up before he and his team set out for their professional racing series start at the Pirelli World Challenge series at the Circuit Of The Americas Formula 1 track in Austin Texas.
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After two laps behind the pace car the race would come down to a five-lap shootout. On the restart, Davis was able to put another class car between his MINI and Burk and Broring at Turn 5. Excited to get back to the front, Burk and Broring hit and spun in Turn 6 leaving Davis a 15 second win. Sunday's race was easier as Davis took the lead at the start and held off Burk for the first several laps until his car faded. Broring stopped to check a tire vibration and fell out of the lead lap. Gregg Ginsburg from Arlington, Va. put his Honda CRX into third to round out the podium.
Both MINI of Charleston drivers moved into first place in the SCCA National and Majors Points races, in their respective classes.
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UNIVERSITY PARK -- The Nov. 12, 2011 game was supposed to be a big one at Beaver Stadium because it was the renewal the Penn State-Nebraska rivalry and marked the first time the Cornhuskers traveled to Happy Valley as a member of the Big 10.
But in the week leading up to the showdown last year, Penn State and its football program were turned upside down. Joe Paterno and former university president Graham Spanier were relieved of their duties, a riot in downtown State College ensued and was then followed a couple nights later by a candlelight vigil.
While the Penn State community was in a state of mourning, confusion and anger, more than 1,000 miles to the west, the Cornhuskers were preparing to come and play the 8-1 Nittany Lions.
"That was a crazy time," Nebraska coach Bo Pelini said Monday. "There were a lot of emotions that obviously were flowing through me that day and leading up to that game."
The coach said he could not imagine what was going through the minds of the Penn State players and coaches during that week and on game day.
Nebraska received great feedback from Penn State for the way the players handled themselves with class and dignity during a difficult and emotional time.
Pelini said he wanted his team to be as supportive as it could be toward Penn State.
"They are another Big Ten institution that was going through a tough time," the coach said. "You want to rally around each other."
Just prior to kickoff, the teams came together at midfield and joined hands for a prayer led by Nebraska running backs coach Ron Brown. It was a powerful moment that brought more than 107,000 fans in attendance to their feet in silence on a sunny and crisp fall afternoon.
"It was an awesome experience with how many people showed up and with Coach Brown doing the prayer before the game," Nebraska quarterback Taylor Martinez said.
Nebraska held on for a 17-14 victory over the Lions, but Pelini said the day was about far more than just winning or even playing a football game.
"That was a unique experience to be a part of," he said. "A game amidst a tragedy that was a lot bigger than a football game."
Pelini credited Penn State for the way it has since handled the situation and for bringing in Bill O'Brien to be the new coach.
O'Brien has impressed many in his first run through the Big Ten. He has his team in position to go 4-0 in league road games for the first time since 1994. Pelini said that not only speaks to what kind of coach O'Brien is, but also the character of the players, who have stuck together through so much adversity.
"It is as tough of a situation as you can possibly imagine, and I think they have done a phenomenal job of managing it and overcoming it," Pelini said
O'Brien's pro-style offense has taken the Big Ten by storm. Penn State is averaging 33.8 points per game and has tallied at least 34 points in four of the five conference matchups. But the defensive-minded Pelini said he thinks he has a pretty good sense of what to expect from the Penn State offense.
"They do what they do, and they try to do it well," he said. "They keep it fairly simple for the quarterback, and I think he is coached well."
Pelini said he has seen Penn State quarterback Matt McGloin improve significantly since the last time the two teams played. McGloin has been a beneficiary of playing in O'Brien's offense, and Pelini said he sees that the senior quarterback has complete command of the offense.
Penn State has found success with its NASCAR offense at times, but Cornhusker linebacker Alonzo Whaley said he does not think the tempo is so fast that his defense cannot calm down between plays.
"I think the tempo is not super fast, so it allows us to regain our thoughts and keep our composure," he said. "Especially when the moments heat up you have a chance to kind of calm down before each play."
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"He is progressing well," Pelini said. "When he is feeling 100 percent that is when we will put him back out there."
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An independent conservative who is often incorrecty labled as a bigot by a liberal media who refuses to consider anyone else's point of view. He is a talk show host that looks out for the people. Many liberals say he isn't fair as he claims to be just because he is biased. Of course he is biased; he does have an opinion after all. That does not mean, however, that he is unfair.
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A left-leaning Independent who when he's not speaking out against child molesters getting light sentences is saying things like he is against the death penalty,for gay marriage and the right for gays to adopt children.This of course gets him labeled and extreme right-wing fascist by extreme left wingnuts who are convinced of his radical rightwingedness because he sometimes has yelled at a couple of people who were acting either pro-terrorist or pro-kiddie-fiddler.
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Bill O'Reilly is a talk show host that most say is a closed-minded conservative fascist. However, most of these "open-minded" people have never seen his show. Does he sometimes make stupid statements? Of course,(His boycott on rap is ridiculous) but so do all the liberal hosts. He does say that Ann Coulter is a crazy right-wing nutjob. He does believe in global warming. He knows that abortion is a right protected by the constitution. This will probably be marked down because of all the "open-minded" liberals who say that anyone who is conservative is wrong. They are also "close-minded, fascist nazis" according to liberals. Does anyone else realize that saying that is a total contridiction?
Bill O'Reilly might not be totaly right, but he is great to watch saying that everything else is very liberal biased.
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For his 11th birthday this year, Ryan Miller of Green Springs asked his family and friends to make donations to the Humane Society of Seneca County instead of bringing presents.
Ryan said the idea came from his mother, Erin Miller. After the oldest brother's birthday party last August, she remarked they really didn't need any more presents. She suggested choosing a charity they liked and asking for donations instead of gifts.
"We weren't so sure about it at first, but then my younger brother picked Back to the Wild in April. He and his friends had so much fun gathering donations, and he was so happy, that I wanted to, too," Ryan said. "So, I like animals and pets, so we picked the Seneca County Humane Society. And me and my friends had a lot of fun, too."
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Ryan Miller delivers donations from his birthday party to the Humane Society of Seneca County.
Although Ryan's actual birthday is June 4, he had his party before school ended, while his classmates had not yet started summer vacations and activities.
Erin said she had heard about other children collecting for charities and made the suggestion to her boys. She said people could bring money or supplies they picked out. Ryan was more excited about it after his brother Myles had his party.
"I wasn't going to force them," Erin said, "They thought about it for awhile. ... My youngest, his class actually went to Back to the Wild for a field trip this year, so that was fresh in his memory."
Ryan has a dog, PJ, and a pig and calf for 4-H, so he decided on the Humane Society to benefit from his party. Erin said about 42 people attended, including classmates from Old Fort School and a few cousins. They raised $260.25, along with a load of supplies.
"I had a party about two weeks ago, and everyone brought money or dog food and supplies. Then I got to deliver all the stuff and see the cats and dogs that I was helping, and it made me very happy and glad to help them," Ryan said.
Erin said the oldest brother, Weston, also wants to help a charity, but he hasn't decided which one.
She said she and her husband, Tony, were pleased Ryan's party generated interest. Erin said the parties have become an opportunity to give instead of get more for themselves.
"I even asked them after the fact, 'Do you wish you had presents now?' Both of them have said 'no' and never even thought twice about it," Erin said. "They really do get it, and I'm very proud of them."
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Camera Comparison: Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom vs Galaxy S4, HTC One, iPhone 5
- 1 Introduction and Overall presentation
- 2 Details
- 3 Color representation
- 4 Exposure and dynamics range
- 6 Indoor photos
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- 8 Night photos
- 9 Video
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- 11 Camera interface and ease of use
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Once again, the Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom grabs the gold with is great night shots. Its images are not only low in digital noise, rich in details and with eye-pleasing colors, but also free of motion blur caused by shaky hands in nearly all scenes. The smartphone's optical image stabilization deserves credit for that. Using the camera's night mode isn't mandatory, in our opinion, as the resulting photos have less life-like colors, despite being brighter overall.
Both the Samsung Galaxy S4 and the iPhone 5 can take pretty photos at night, but in our opinion, the S4 is slightly ahead, especially when its night mode is enabled. Its images are well exposed, with a tolerable amount of digital noise and good-looking colors. The iPhone 5 night shots are good, but often noisy, as one can easily tell even without zooming in on them.
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1. kobainez (Posts: 429; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
NICK T is a SAMSUNG FANBOY. I'm not apple fan and i hate apple but isn't apple camera better than galaxy s4?
2. Jason2k13 (Posts: 1214; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)
says who? why dont you use your eyes and judge for yourself from the pictures.
I personally think the Zoom has the best camera of all 4, 2nd comes the GS4.
3. kobainez (Posts: 429; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
U're a samsung fanboy too. Lot's of reviewer said that iphone 5 has the best camera among smartphones and that doesn't include nokia
14. Jason2k13 (Posts: 1214; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)
im now a samsung fanboy for having my own opinions? yep that makes sense...
I know alot of reviewers to who says GS4 and even the lumia 920 has the best cameras, and you do realise most camera battle on phonearena, GS4 wins overall?
30. doejon (Posts: 398; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)
lol look on other pages there the same results
s4 & zoom have the best cams
sorry 4 my bad english
66. Tito73 (Posts: 15; Member since: 11 Sep 2012)
Common, see the details of the building! Gs4 has the best one! I have HTC which is very bad! Imho
6. feres13 (Posts: 306; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
I remember that back when PA did the blind camera comparison everyone voted for the iPhone 5
16. hung2900 (Posts: 956; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
I don't bash the result, but PA is quite silly when making a blind test without a crop or ability to zoom in. My monitor is 21.5 inch, and it's still very small.
And you should read more about Customer behaviour - failure of blind test.
21. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1522; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
And as far as I remember they did the test with the Galaxy S3 not the S4.
And many people complain about that.
24. feres13 (Posts: 306; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
They did the test with both the S3 and the S4
53. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
i guess ZOOM pictures are slightly differnent from SGS4 , and with all that over sized body it have the pictues are worth nothing special if it hardly outperform other phones
its a FAIL camera with no advantage over other phones 10x zoom is no big revolution 1990s camera also have optical zooms
60. cam-whore (Posts: 164; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
im not sure about you guys but if the phone i'm using is gonna be compared to camphone pretenders, im as hell would be ashamed of it. but once the phone im using is included in camphone comparison with the Lumia 1020, pv 808, I would be more than proud. Even the n8's camera capabilities would make this lot sweat. Hell, Im not even an android fan, but even sony's camphones are better the this whole lot and it wasn't even included? what's with this PA?
7. tech2 (Posts: 3458; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
Why do you brainlessly accuse something/someone when the evidence is right there ? Look and read the review first before showing us your stupidity !
9. Whateverman (Posts: 3262; Member since: 17 May 2009)
Doesn't look like it to me. The iP5 camera is good though.
4. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
Are u that biased against the Xperia z? For not comparing it?
10. tech2 (Posts: 3458; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
Why would anyone compare such a subpar camera with these phones ? Also, this is 2013 not 2012 !
15. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
Maybe you never heard this but Sony has improvedXperia Z camera quality
peria_z_gets_firmware_update_i mproves_camera_quality-news-6041.php
17. hung2900 (Posts: 956; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
Improved # considering in the comparison.
Still subpar.
19. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
I don't think so before the update burst mode have better quality than normal or superior mode.
But after the update even normal mode is better than burst mode
25. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
Xperia z came out 2013 not 2012.
46. tech2 (Posts: 3458; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
It came in 2013 with 2012 specs so ........... !
5. bawboh86 (Posts: 10; Member since: 05 Jun 2013)
So, why is there a camera comparison without the Lumia 920/925/928? Or are you holding off for the Lumia 1020 to release for that one?
8. _Bone_ (Posts: 2154; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Reality check once more. Just cause they don't scream about it, Sony's Exmor R(S) chipset in the S4 is still the best all-around.
Excited for the Lumia 1020 inclusion when it's out!!!
11. HASHTAG (unregistered)
Didn't the iPhone 5 get an 8 in the last camera comparison?
45. iushnt (Posts: 1709; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)
yes but this time, they got the s4 zoom here..score starts to decrease when better devices gets into the competition
12. ANANDALTER (Posts: 124; Member since: 07 Feb 2013)
13. Odiin (Posts: 340; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)
As usual same pathetic camera comparison. Nothin new.
18. roldefol (Posts: 4258; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Why, PA? Why would you post an S4 Zoom camera comparison WHILE the Lumia 1020 is being announced? In a couple more days, you could have had a real comparison. God forbid we should let Nokia have its moment in the sun.
34. darkkjedii (Posts: 21367; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Nokia coming on strong bro, can't keep denying it.
20. amilcarmz86 (Posts: 95; Member since: 09 Jul 2013)
i think the xperia Z should be on this one, when PA compared the Z with the one, s4, nokia 920 and iphone came out on 3rd or 2nd i believe....
22. Penny (Posts: 1648; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
Pretty odd timing for this camera review considering it was rendered pretty much useless within a few hours with the announcement of the Lumia 1020. Unless, of course, the intention was to get out one more comparison with a Samsung winning while you still could. That seems very likely to me.
23. o7o (Posts: 111; Member since: 26 Jun 2009)
So, iPhone 5 gets a 7 when it's facing Samsung's, and an 8 when it's facing Nokia's?
Does its camera transform depending on the competitor?! :D
27. shikroi (Posts: 187; Member since: 24 Sep 2012)
No 808 pureview.
57. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)
That would only ruin the android narrative.
28. mottykels (Posts: 383; Member since: 15 May 2013)
Are p.a using the same (old) photos from their review to use in this comparison?
29. aco96 (Posts: 240; Member since: 12 Oct 2012)
Where are Nokia 808, N8, Lumia 920, Xperia Z?! Very stupid comparison, I don't understand why these important camera phones are excluded, especially the 808
40. epicandroid (banned) (Posts: 40; Member since: 08 Nov 2012)
Because the ones you listed all suck in terms of the camera performance.
49. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10456; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Did you just say The Nokia 808 Pureview sucks at camera performance? Someone smack this fool.
54. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
were you born dumb or become dumb after u bought samsung phones
kid 808 is king till now they dont compare it cuz thats over kill for these lesser phones
31. darkkjedii (Posts: 21367; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
In all honesty, to me they're all about even. The preferences will depend on how much of a fanboy you are. Just read these comments
32. Ronny666 (Posts: 120; Member since: 08 Jun 2013)
Bleeding butthurts all over. Anyway I may not consider Zoom as a smartphone.
33. ncider (Posts: 2; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)
It's fairly evident the author knows very little about photography based on the pedestrian and inept descriptions used to justify the rankings. It was kind of like reading a car comparison review by written my Mom.
35. maccess (Posts: 742; Member since: 16 Jan 2013)
oh shut up boy..
50. ncider (Posts: 2; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)
Oh, good one. You are a very clever girl.
36. Techboi (Posts: 84; Member since: 20 Sep 2012)
The Htc One is still pretty good for a 5mp camera.
37. Damo579 (Posts: 242; Member since: 18 May 2013)
Waiting for a Lumia 1020 vs any smartphone camera comparison....
38. gigaraga (Posts: 1454; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)
Of course. Where are all the haters now? The Samsung obviously captures more of everything, better than iPhone, HTC....
39. epicandroid (banned) (Posts: 40; Member since: 08 Nov 2012)
Galaxy's Are the best cameraphones...they look even better than PureCrap from 1020
55. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
oh thats cute so u live on dark side of the moon lolz i bet u cant see in that much darkness
41. ravelin101 (Posts: 1; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)
Wow! I really need this review for posting pictures on Instagram :wink:
42. Clement97 (Posts: 4; Member since: 26 Dec 2012)
Heyyy wtf PA ???? In the previous camera comparison you conducted with S4,iPhone 5 hTc One ,lumia 925etc, you gave equal marks that is 9 for both iPhone 5 and the GS4....then how come it became 8.4 and 7.6 here ????
43. gostallion (Posts: 3; Member since: 14 Apr 2010)
Thank you Samsung for bringing us this remarkable commercial cleverly disguised as a comparison article. We so hope you got your advertising moneys worth.
51. GMS85 (Posts: 209; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
my Sony Cyber-Shot WX300 Shoot Pictures better than all above .. #justsaying
52. JustSaying (Posts: 1; Member since: 13 Jul 2013)
another paid advertisement from samsung... wow samsung really has a lot of gimmick in advertising their products..
56. jellmoo (Posts: 1595; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)
So you completely ignore the Lumia 920/925/928, while doing this competition about a month before the 1020 is released, ignoring the reigning champ of the 808, and somehow finding the device with one of the best nightime shots (the One) to have the worst?
This site has great news and some insightful articles, but it does the absolute worst camera comparisons...
58. JeetAdwani (Posts: 1; Member since: 15 Jul 2013)
I am a Samsung Distributor, own S4, HTC One and Iphone 5 but i must say HTC One overall Camera Performance is much better than s4 and iPhone5 (havent touch zoom yet)
61. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
DLSR>Point and shoot = Nokia Pureview>Smartphones
Zoom is in between a DLSR and a smartphone it will probably be worse than the lumia 1020 but its not as bad as a smartphone camera.
63. romeo1 (Posts: 718; Member since: 06 Jan 2012)
htc one camera isn't as good as the s4 or even the iphone5 check all the reviews.
And if you had all of them you would know for yourself.
Anyone can say im a samsung distributor or apple/sony/nokia whatever but no one knows if its true. but if you really where one you are stupid to say something bad about the brand you are distrubiting as it could cost you some money
64. sswain (Posts: 56; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
I agree. Just look at the photos in this. They consistently rate the HTC One down, but to my eyes it almost always has the best shot in their pictures (only a few where it is too dark, which doesn't even make sense because it should always be the brightest!). They should do the whole thing with HDR on for all phones if they didn't... it is the only mode I ever use.