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Inside Parallel Extensions for .NET 2008 CTP Part 2
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Parallel Extensions simplifies development by providing library-based support for introducing concurrency into applications written with any .NET language, including C# and Visual Basic. It includes the Task Parallel Library (TPL), which provides imperative data and task parallelism; Parallel LINQ (PLINQ), which provides declarative data parallelism; and all new Coordination Data Structures (CDS), which provide support for work coordination and managing shared state.
In addition to CDS, this upgrade provides several improvements, including a new scheduler that is more robust, efficient, and scalable. TPL also exposes new functionality, including methods for continuations. PLINQ now runs on top of TPL, clarifies order-preservation, and provides several new operators.
The June CTP works with the .NET Framework 3.5 as a simple, small-footprint installation that drops a single DLL, documentation,
samples, and registers the DLL with Visual Studio 2008.
Here, we continue the discussion with the key engineers of the Microsoft Parallel Computing Platform (which includes the Parallel Extensions for .NET...): Lead Developer Joe Duffy, Developer Huseyin Yildiz, Developer Igor Ostrovsky. Program Manager Stephen Toub and Program Manager Ed Essey.
We dig deeply into a lot of topics related to parallelism and conconcurency and how the new additions to the platform enable developers to exploit multi/many core processors in an elegant way.
Enjoy part 2. See part 1 here.
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This is great I played around a bit.
Something of note that I think has to do with CLR rather than the extensions: It would seem that once multiple threads are used within the test console app it takes 10-50x (guess) longer to exit just normally. Even then it's just a second or so but it makes it appear that there is some problem there when things freeze for a second.
edit: Went to verify this. It seems that the above delay only happens on the first (cold) run. Doesn't make it any less weird, what could there be happening upon exiting the app on first run as opposed to further runs? It's also possible this only affects debugging from VS.
Another unrelated weird thing I noticed:
System.Threading.Parallel.ForEach(items, (item,x) =>
x // <<<< weirdness
If I type "." after the "x" it thinks x is an int and doesn't give any completion options. However if I put .Stop(); there manually, then build and then try starting another line with x, the IntelliSense completion window now says x is ParallelState rather than int. It still doesn't give completion options. However one time (seemingly random) it did give completion options with Stop among them.
This is on RTM VS 2008.
My take on it would be to return the output ordered. I know that the result is slower but that's something that the average dev would expect... they put something in, want the cores to handle it and get the result as it was entered before.
Although if taking the SQL approach you would probably return it unordered... you need there to specify the ordering to get it ordered.
But the question is: would the average dev expect that an array is returned in another order...
Because TPL is naturally a threading library, I would think the default of no order is correct as that is the whole point to run parallel tasks and today with our own manual threading tasks, we know (hopefully) order is not ordered. I like Joe's ideas of mixing the order in debug mode to help prevent false expectations on order.
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I am not totally sure how it works- which of you had to lose an hour last night or where the cut off in the US is or anything, and I am sure a quick google search would clear that right up, but I am too tired to even do that. Maybe if I had an extra minute of those 60 lost.
But, take heart! This now means we'll have an extra hour of daylight. I do know that much. And we'll have the feeling that spring is coming sooner, so that can't be all that bad (except for the fact that it is was snowing like a blizzard here last night.) That just doesn't scream spring to me, no matter how many hours you take away. But please- don't take any more. I'll make do for now. Carry on.


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What a dumb play.
Aaron Rodgers drops back, Julius Peppers hits the ball just as Rodgers arm is moving forward to throw.
Ball falls to the ground.
Just a guy watching the game in a bar, I thought it was an incomplete pass.
But even in the littlest of little league football, coaches will tell you that THE PLAY ISN'T OVER TIL THE WHISTLE BLOWS!
So there's the ball on the ground, it gets picked up by Jarrett Boykin who then stands around with it for an hour (see gif) or so while all the Bears walk back to their huddle, FINALLY Boykin hears either Rodgers or his bench yelling for him to RUN! and it's all over.
You can't give Aaron Rodgers 7 points in a playoff game and expect to win.
But I have to say this about the Bears of 2013: at the start of the season, I did not expect them to be good.
It was the year of the Opposite Bears - good O and rotten D.
In my wildest dreams I did not expect that the last game of the regular season, the Bears vs the Packers, would decide who would be the NFC North champs.
All year long this team was so up and down it was unbelievable - that they were able to pick themselves up after the revolting Eagles loss is actually impressive.
And last night was an exciting game to watch.
Just a shame that on 4th and 8 the D would allow Randall Cobb to be, and I'm being conservative here, about a million yards wide open.
Seriously, if you dropped a giant net down on Cobb, you wouldn't have caught a Bear.
Awful end, exciting game, surprising season.
You have encapsulated
You have encapsulated entirely all of my thoughts about that play and that game. I really loved the "Evolution!" and drum solo bits -- and pretty much everything else in it. Tim's animations are a concept by which we measure our pain -- with apologies to John Lennon.
Well played, sir!
Happy New Year to you, too!
Happy New Year to you, too! My bloody mary was excellent -- as was the lovely girl who made it.
And Happy New Year to the entire Cub Reporter family -- writers and commenters all!
Bulls suck. Cubs suck. Bears are thoroughly mediocre. DePaul still sucks. The weather sucks.
I wish I was really excited about hockey.
The Bears offense was very fun to watch. Cutler will certainly get resigned to some kind of a deal.
This was the WORST Bears defense I have ever seen. Even with a middle-of-the-pack defense, they will be in the hunt for a playoff spot the next few years, barring a major injury.
Roy Halladay goes to an 80's party dressed in a Cubs Jamie Moyer jersey...
As an unabashed Moyer fan
As an unabashed Moyer fan with a Cubs Moyer jersey and signed glove this makes my day. He was such an awesome guy with the Cubs and made me one happy kid multiple times at the park just by taking the time to truly talk to me. He basically cemented my eternal Cub fandom, though maybe I should be mad at him for that.
Happy New Years! Just wanted
Happy New Years! Just wanted to take this moment and say as a frequent reader and very seldom poster thanks to Rob G and the regulars of The Cub Reporter for all that you do with this site. As a midwestern guy relocated to Austin, TX your debates, jokes and insights reminds me of having a good Midwest sports bar discussion but with some of the brightest and most passionate Cubs fans around. Here's to next season; well, better make that 2015; ok, how about 2016.
You are living one of my
You are living one of my fantasies: living in Austin (except in summer). Been fortunate to have worked and partied at SXSW.
Say hello to Stubs, JMueller, Franklin, and Jo's on Congress for me. How fucking awesome!
Just thinking of Franklin's is making my mouth water...
Happy New Year!
Happy New Year!! I too have
Happy New Year!! I too have played SXSW several times (not since 2002 tho!) and just love Austin. Thanks for the great note reminding us of what we have. I'm in Detroit area and love getting my Cubs' fill here from fellow Chicagoans and expat Chicagoans. Thanks to Rob G. AZ Phil Cubbie Blue, Dr Joseph Hecht and the rest of you bastards!
Ps - now I want Maria's tacos. Dammit.
mark mulder is back...angels,
mark mulder is back...angels, minor league deal, up to $6m if all incentives met (getting $1m just for the minor league deal).
Story about ex-Cubs minor
surprise, surprise...
surprise, surprise...
Cutler gets 7-year deal
Well, then we're in it for
Well, then we're in it for the long haul. The advantage here is that Cutler bashers will have to find something else to do for a living. I was on the fence a bit on this, but I have some faith in Emery so ya, why not. And Cutler's comments about it were damn endearing.
While all QBs are overrated,
While all QBs are overrated, within that context cutler is one of the most underrated QBs in the league. He makes countless small plays happen that don't show up much in the stats (turning a sack into a 4 yard dump off) and I feel like unless people really watch him all the time they don't understand his value.
I for one am very happy we retained him and since I think Trestman is a very smart guy when it comes to QBs he probably saw the same things.
I think I underate him a bit.
I think I underate him a bit. He opened my eyes with that cremation of that cornerback or safety before he got hurt. Shit, I don't even remember which game that was. Just plowed into the guy. I think a good QB needs to be able to audible but if Cutler can't do that Trestman would have raised a flag on this contract and I'm sure he'd now be a free agent. I'm good with this decision. I like Emery - he seems to have a good head on his shoulders. And I definitely like Trestman. And don't forget, next year the Bears will have 4 huge receivers - Marshall, Jeffery, Bennett, and? Marquess Wilson. They've been bringing this kid along really slowly but he showed something the other day and my god, 4 towers? Jeffery will end up being the best of the bunch. He pulls in balls so well - but as Jon Gruden likes to say "The NEW Monsters of the Midway!"
But regarding Cutler, I do kind of go after him on posts here, but it's only because I think he can be better than he is. Now that he is here for 7 years, I'm actually kind of pumped because it means Trestman thinks a lot of him, and that's Trestman's specialty. I also like it when people take risks. The Urlacher signing early on, the Rizzo and Castro signings. Starting a business lol. Which I'm doing. So yeah, risk taking is exhilarating to me, even when others do it.
It will be very unlikely he
It will be very unlikely he will be here for 7 years.
He is guaranteed about $54MM. That's it. NFL is unlike all the other sports regarding guaranteed money, thankfully.
So, its a nice ego-stroke that an athlete can say "I signed for $2BLN and 15 years...", when in reality, said player can get cut after 4 years or whatever.
yeah, good point, although
yeah, good point, although Urlacher was around the length of his contract and then some. But he wasn't a QB. Here's my only reservation about this signing - this seems like a good QB year in the draft. It may not make sense to a lot of people but I'd still like to see them grab one.
Slauson, Jennings get 4 yr
Slauson, Jennings get 4 yr deals. Trestman thinking of McClellan as a linebacker.
Was it E-Man who kept harping
Was it E-Man who kept harping on that? I think maybe. Anyway, Emery was clearly not impressed by McClellan's efforts this year. The guy is an outside linebacker, good quick moves but he can't push 300 pound guys down on the ground without acceleration. It's really hard for me to critique that since I can't push 75 pound guys down without acceleration.
I can't push 75 pound guys
I can't push 75 pound guys down without acceleration.
Where is Tony Campana when you need him.
I'm happy to see that
I'm happy to see that publicly the Shea McNothin' evaluation was acknowledged. I'm wondering WHY this did not happen before the 2012 draft, and, if not then - why was this not addressed in camp?
If as they say, "It was up to us to coach up Shea...", what's that saying? He didn't have a fucking clue on WHERE to be on the field.
Oh well - as I said yesterday or whatever, if the team can output even a middle-of-the-pack NFL D, they will be in the hunt for a Playoff spot soon again.
Yeah, four receivers, keep an
Yeah, four receivers, keep an eye on that Marquess guy - four tall, good receivers, they just need to have a D that doesn't have teams march down the field on EVERY play, which is what happened this year. I think Shea's problem wasn't so much that he didn't know where to go. He couldn't knock people down. That's a bit of a liability at his position. Peppers gets held and even double teamed, so some of his struggles are understandable, but Shea whatever his last name is simply stinks as a defensive lineman. I'm not convinced he'll be much good as a linebacker either, but at least we have a GM who is saying, "Step up".
It's the Slauson cut off, no
It's the Slauson cut off, no?
Yes, I'm aware of all the
Yes, I'm aware of all the site errors...no, I don't know how to fix them quite yet.
See my post at the bottom.
See my post at the bottom. And again, I stress that if I'm out of line, my apologies.
hardly out of line,
hardly out of line, appreciate the care and discussion.
alright, fixed the goofy date
alright, fixed the goofy date error, that was harmless enough...still figuring out the comment posting one.
Seems to be that without a proper cache_page, it's eating up our disk storage, so this might get worse before it gets better.
$50m in guaranteed money for
$50m in guaranteed money for Cutler allegedly
the 7 years is likely to spread the cap hit out, I'm guessing it's more likely he's a Bear for 3-5 years unless he ages really well.
if he could stay healthy I'd feel better about it, but he's got a big time arm and cutdown his errors this year and he definitely shows up for the 4th quarter which is nice.
rumors be they're going to a 3-4 defense, McClellan to LB as noted earlier.
Much as I would love to see a
Much as I would love to see a 3-4 defense, all the non-speculative stuff I've seen on the topic is the Bears saying no, we're sticking with the 4-3. On the other hand, I'll take whatever kind of defense Michigan State was playing yesterday.
$54MM is the figure most
$54MM is the figure most reported, guaranteed.
Chris Conte basically slapped
Chris Conte basically slapped himself silly and said, "I don't want to be a Bear anymore." So he allowed one of the most horrible plays I've ever seen to happen, happen. And who the hell is coaching this defense? Marinelli had his flaws but do you guys really think for one minute that a Marinielli -coached unit would stand around for anything? Whistle or not?
I'm kind of wondering out
I'm kind of wondering out loud here - and I guess this should be an email to Rob - if there is a way some of us can pitch in to help maintain this site. I have my own ideas on how to make it work better - abandon Drupal if you don't have time to maintain it and go to Wordpress for one. But I really value the comments here. And the posters, too of course. AZ Phil is our own personal legend. Rob himself has classic moments, amazing overall baseball knowledge. There's Cubster, Cubbyblue, but the commenters are what makes me keep coming back, and I get the sense we are on the final legs of this journey. It is really, really hard for Rob to maintain this site on his own - I know - I am a web developer by trade. I'm curious what we can do to sort of kick this thing back to life. Without saying to Rob, hey, when are you gonna fix _______.
Rob, if I'm stepping out of line here feel free to just treat me like you treat Crunch. I'll be fine.
Wordpress is what this was on
Wordpress is what this was on before we went independent, it didn't work very well for those that recall. I'm sure it's better now and I'm sure a lot of those problems were because we were part of a larger network, but I think we'd lose a lot of the archives, which would be unfortunate.
The site has been pretty stable until about the last year, not sure exactly what's the cause, some is certainly a lack of time on my part to maintain things as I once did, some may be on our host (last week's debacle was all on them and the reason we're getting an error whenever we post a comment). I have the instructions on how to fix it, I just have no idea how to execute it(mysql, database bullshit that I'm clueless about it). As time goes on, the databases that run the site are getting larger and larger and I frankly don't know much about how they work or how to fix or maintain them. I usually can troubleshoot stuff on my own despite my lack of experience or knowledge, but time has been a factor. I don't know if going to Wordpress would alleviate any of that, I imagine problems there still have to be fixed by someone.
As for the site in general, the Cubs inability to be interesting and my own life adventures have sucked out the excitement in it all...not sure if it'll come back when they get good or not. I've been meaning to try and find a new "everyday guy", since the writing of the site is down to me and Arizona Phil, but there are few prospects out there. The few that have shown an ability to keep it going day in and day out have their own far more popular sites by now and/or I think they're douchebags. Plus if someone did post news more often around here, what the hell would crunch do all day?
Ideally, I would love to pawn off the behind-the-scenes maintenace, continuous upgrading, and dealing with advertisers on someone, so what time I do have is spent writing instead of dealing with B.S. But I imagine if you're job is web related, you don't wish to spend your free time on it as well and I completely understand that. There is some money in all of this, but it's closer to Nike sweatshop workers than McDonald's minimum wage.
But hey, if you want to be a writer or have any interest in keeping the site going in any capacity, let me know. I still visit here more than anywhere else and would love to see it keep going. But yeah, not sure how much longer I can keep it up on my own, but I've been saying that for a few years...so who knows?
I would love, as I'm sure
I would love, as I'm sure many others also would, to offer some sort of assistance. Unfortunately, I lack necessary skills to do web stuff, and I have neither the baseball knowledge nor a consistent enough schedule to contribute as a writer.
Planning to do a fund drive of any kind in the near future? What kind of money would you need to make any sort of difference? I'm a broke-ass grad student who can only make very occasional small donations, but I've been a reader for years and have certainly gotten enough enjoyment out of the site and community to make it worth some sort of voluntary donation if that would help.
I second this, though I'm
I second this, though I'm employed.
thanks for the monetary
thanks for the monetary offers, maybe I'll do another fund raising drive before the season. Time is more an issue than money though. But in good news, our little discussion started a dialogue again with a reader that helped me in the past. Hopefully we can work out something that he can help on a more permanent and consistent basis.
Thanks everyone for your help and concern.
Thanks Rob. The only thing
Thanks Rob. The only thing worse than having trouble getting stuff done is having idiots like me offer to help and then not delivering. As far as writing for the site I just don't have the baseball knowledge the rest of you have. It would almost be like me trying to post on a mathematician site pretending I know what the hell a Euclid is. I kind of felt comfortable with trying out as a writer for the Bears site you got going but at least I played football and was actually not too bad at it until I got hurt. As far as helping out with the site, it is something I'd consider - I need to mull it over some. I haven't really found a web site bug I haven't been able to kill, but yeah, since that's my day job, do I want to devote my free time to it? I very well may. I hate to get all hyperbolic but the quality of the posts and comments here, especially when it gets busy - is the best that's out there, in my opinion. And yeah, I did see a big drop off in people here when the Cubs began to dedicate themselves to even more suckiness than usual. The nice thing about the current posting bug is that you aren't getting tons of comments right now, so it's no hurry ha ha. Anyway, consider me a fan of this thing no matter what happens. I'll follow up with an email to you if I decide I can take on some of the work.
I think you're off the hook
I think you're off the hook Blue, there was another reader that has helped in the past that may take on a more permanent role. Haven't worked it out all quite yet, but here's hoping....
Old and Blue, is this
Old and Blue, is this something you would have time to do?
Seems like you would be well-suited. "Just sayin'..."
Old and Blue seems to have
Old and Blue seems to have the attendance equanimity and skill set? My only question is how 'old' are you O&B? Can your heart take it? We don't want to have a health risk and then Palin has to take over mid term? Just kidding BTW. No age reveal needed.
Ha ha. Good post. If I decide
Ha ha. Good post. If I decide to help Rob out I"m definitely going to delete all of your posts. :-)
and then Palin has to take
and then Palin has to take over mid term?
She would shoot to kill a baby Bear Cub?
From a helicopter?
Jeff Suppan retires. General
Jeff Suppan retires. General Franco is dead.
BA has Cubs as the #4
BA has Cubs as the #4 contender to land Tanaka
Mariners, Yankees, Dodgers ahead of them
So you are saying there's a
So you are saying there's a chance?
the best HOF classes of all-time using Jay Jaffe's JAW system
A Maddux, Glavine, Thomas trio would be in the top 5, adding Biggio would bring it down a bit....
Old and Blue, is this
Old and Blue, is this something you would have time to do?
Seems like you would be well-suited. "Just sayin'..."
[Sorry for the Repeat - Wordpress thang.]
New 25-year TV deal for
New 25-year TV deal for Phillies
"Sources said it is a 25-year
"Sources said it is a 25-year deal and the Philadelphia Inquirer reported it is worth more than $2.5 billion..."
100 million (or more) per year.
Well yeah, Sandberg's gonna
Well yeah, Sandberg's gonna win 15 or 16 World Series during that timeframe.
just so we have the current
just so we have the current revenue comp for the Cubs, supposedly they get $60M annually, $20M coming from WGN-TV.
so $40M per year added revs will add two #2-3 starters or an ace and Jason Marquis making his comeback after being out of baseball for 5 years.
good summary of Phills TV deal
Supposedly the Phillies are
Supposedly the Phillies are getting around $30M/year through their current contract expires in 2015, so the cash flow won't change for two seasons although their line of credit will be upgraded.
Pre-Convention Splash?
Pre-Convention Splash?
Do any of you think there will be any pressure to make ANY kind of noteworthy signing prior to the Cubs Convention?
I am thinking that this management team is gonna get fucking torched at the event for fielding this "Padres East" team version of baseball.
In the Hendry years, there was always a "buzz" signing just before the Convention. Last year it was - cough - Edwin Jackson - cough -
this was my favorite Hendry
"Do any of you think there
"Do any of you think there will be any pressure to make ANY kind of noteworthy signing prior to the Cubs Convention?"
you're kidding right?
this has been an offseason of the cubs arguing with city/neighborhood over revenue streams and adding new revenue streams...and jose veras.
there's not much out there left to sign that could get done before the convention worth mentioning. they have had enough loot free'd up to sign 2 high-end impact guys (and more), but it seems they're in on no one except being linked to tanaka.
next offseason should be interesting. it's all pitching and bare-bones on the bats aside from a couple 3rd basemen. they're heavily relying on the youth bats to emerge.
OK, crunch, this is probably
OK, crunch, this is probably the 20th time you have commented that next offseason will be a pitching-rich FA class. That's maybe a slight hyperbole, or maybe it's accurate as to the actual number. But I happen to think I'm in the <>drumroll ballpark. Please explain the statement, explaining how there will be plethora of pitching talent available to clubs with large bank accounts as (i state as a large annual customer) there absolutely ought to be for the Cubs.
I'm not saying I disagree; because I have not investigated the matter and I do not know essentially who will be available. I simply have trouble imaging a bountiful FA agent - especially in pitching - in today's cash-flush MLB. Would you please elaborate?
"That's maybe a slight
"That's maybe a slight hyperbole, or maybe it's accurate as to the actual number."
check out the FA class next year. lots of name-brand pitching...not much on the bat side aside from c.headley/p.sandoval and h.ramirez (if LAD doesn't lock him up).
pitching includes...kershaw, lester, scherzer, h.bailey, j.masterson, j.shields and a bunch of other guys who are still good but not on that level or will be if they have rebound seasons (j.johnson/e.volquez) or are good but are older and probably won't get more than 1-3 year deals.
this doesn't even include guys with options that are likely to be picked up if they perform and are healthy...j.cueto (10m), y.gallardo (13m), h.iwakuma (7m)...
the market isn't locked in yet...there's gonna be some guys coming up for FA who will be retained by clubs. there's also considerations like BOS losing a bazillion dollars off their payroll next year and that they are stated to be out of the tanaka run this year.
the only thing known is bats are going to be nearly bare.
It seems impossible that
It seems impossible that Kershaw is already approaching free agency. Turns 24 this March.
CHARLIE: Kershaw will be 26
CHARLIE: Kershaw will be 26 in March.
I just... Maths, bro.
I just... Maths, bro.
Or, I often think it is still 2012 or so.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I suspect most of those top guys will get locked up, especially Kershaw, Lester, and Scherzer, but like you said, it's a wait and see thing.
It hit me last night that
It hit me last night that this might put the Cubs in a weird position with Samardzija. Let's say they waste this winter in half-assed attempts to extend him on the cheap, but he and his agent continue to insist he should be paid as an ace. Then they realize they are going to have to trade him to get anything from him. But it turns out all these other pitchers are on the trading block too, because they are mere months away from free agency. Or the Cubs try to trade him next off season, but the other big spenders have already picked up their more consistent pitchers on the free agent market. Does Samardzija still have good value in the 2015 season? Maybe this helps the Cubs extend him on the cheaper side? Or does he merely become one of 2016s top FA pitchers? Can't say I'm good at anticipating how this all works.
The largest unknown is
The largest unknown is whether the Cubs plan to compete on the field in 2015. If yes, there's really no reason to trade him for less than what they deem he's worth. If it looks increasingly likely that they will not, as many suspect, then getting a below-value return is better than just the draft pick they get when he walks away in 21 months.
Pre-Convention Splash?
Pre-Convention Splash?
Do any of you think there will be any pressure to make ANY kind of noteworthy signing prior to the Cubs Convention?
I am thinking that this management team is gonna get fucking torched at the event for fielding this "Padres East" team version of baseball.
In the Hendry years, there was always a "buzz" signing just before the Convention. Last year it was - cough - Edwin Jackson - cough -
Here is a quote from Jackson:
"I think the most assuring part is you have a chance to relax and have a chance to know you're going to be somewhere for a while, and you don't have to feel like you have to prove yourself every year," Jackson said of his new deal. "I feel like it's definitely going to help for myself just to go out and have fun and not worry about anything else."
If it's all the same, Edwin,
If it's all the same, Edwin, you can go ahead and worry just a little bit this year.
Happy 22nd Birthday, Kris
Happy 22nd Birthday, Kris Bryant
Born: January 4, 1992 in Las Vegas, Nevada
so this finally happened...
so this finally happened...
"Chris Cotillo of MLB Daily Dish reports that Ryan Theriot has officially retired from Major League Baseball."
8 seasons (including a 14 PA
8 seasons (including a 14 PA cup of coffee in '05), 6.4 WAR, a ton of scrappy and inspired a base-running stat (TOOTBLAN). Not all your 3rd round draft picks will compile such a legacy.
...and 2 world series rings..
...and 2 world series rings...earned during the 2 and 1/3rd seasons he wasn't a cub...and some really silly golf pants.
Not really directed at JoeP,
Not really directed at JoeP, but TOOTBLAN is a smear/smudge/skid mark on the world of baseball statistics.
I agree entirely. It's more
I agree entirely. It's more of an emotional outburst than a statistic. Theriot did inspire quite a few of those outbursts from me.
Does anyone know of a
Does anyone know of a football version of COTS baseball contracts? The closest I can find for the bears is here:
I was listening to The Score yesterday, and there were some interesting tidbits:
Cutler's contract has no signing bonus, so it's essentially a 3/54 contract with four option years and no buyout/cap hit
Cutler's first, year salary is 22.5M, then 15.5, then 16
Jennings' 4/22.4 deal pays him 7.5M in the first year (7.5M cap hit according to this site)
Slauson is probably going to be similar.
After these signing the Bears will be within a few million of the salary cap for next year. To make many signings the team will have to make room through cuts/restructuring
Julius Peppers is a near certainty to be cut. Cutting Peppers and designating him as a June 1 cut will buy them 14M of space.
Other cut candidates for salary cap space are (space created):
Bush (2.8)
Podlesh (1.4)
Weems (1.0)
Earl Bennett (2.1) though I think he'll stay on the team
$20.3 MM if you add all these up, which should be a good amount of space when you consider back loading contracts.
Nobody has suggested cutting Briggs, but if you did he would have a 1.6M cap hit and clear 4.7M in cap space.
this site looks neat...
I found that site earlier today, too. It has a little more user friendly way to find contract details, cap hits. If you go to the home page it has a salary cap calculator where you can plug in cuts, extensions with contract details and get team cap results.
I used some of that information to correct some of the figures I posted earlier.
Ah okay
Ah okay
1- get me a lb like Urlacher
2- get me a kick returner like Hester
3- Win Super Bowl score 10-3
Lovie will have his defense, good luck on offense.
don't think Bucs are too bad
don't think Bucs are too bad off, although South looks like a much tougher division going forward than the Norris.
Him and Rivera butting heads twice a year should be fun. In the end, I don't think there's much of a net difference between Trestman and Lovie, just 2 very different ways at being mediocre. Lovie seemed to handle Sean Payton pretty well for the most part (well at least in Chicago).
Hopefully Tucker and Emery just need a year to get their new players and system in place, and it's not that they're incompetent on that side of the ball.
Lovie had the say with draft
Lovie had the say with draft with dumb ass Angelo, once again good luck Tampa.
Tucker needs to go.
Tucker needs to go.
Tucker needs to go.
Tucker needs to go.
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we'll be moving to a new host sometime today or this week (not sure of the timing), but there will be some down time on the site.
Down time on the site?!
Down time on the site?! *Shakes fist at heavens.*
Nelson Cruz may be looking
Nelson Cruz may be looking for 1-year deal.
not the worst thing if Cubs could make it happen, although doubt they want to give up the 2nd round pick..
a look at his numbers makes
a look at his numbers makes it less interesting
but certainly could sell him on a 1-year deal knowing that he'd likely get traded to a contender and not worry about a qualifying offer next offseason.
Welcome to Chiberia,
Welcome to Chiberia, everybody! NW Indiana is shut down as well. I wonder if Cubster made it to work today in Munster, IN?
My kids were born after 2000,
My kids were born after 2000, never felt cold like this in Chicago.
Yes. My patient got to the
Yes. My patient got to the hospital for hip surgery but the office was closed Monday. Open Tuesday.
145 public votes in for Hall of Fame, Maddux running at 100% so far
Maddux, Thomas, Glavine look like locks...Biggio and Piazza will be close.
Three Cubs prospects,
Three Cubs prospects, including highly touted shortstop Frandy De La Rosa, survived a car accident in the Dominican Republic on Monday. Other players involved included pitchers Jose Zapata and Jefferson Antonio Mejia, who were riding with De La Rosa in a Toyota. De La Rosa, who turns 18 on Jan. 24, signed with the Cubs in July 2012. The three were hospitalized, but a source in the Dominican Republic tells MLB.com that the players were not seriously injured.
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Looking at the picture of the car, these guys were very very lucky.
I've heard the car looked
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Oh, boy these hockey fans are way too wild for me!! I am going back to my skating world, thank you very much!!!!
Oh, boy these hockey fans are way too wild for me!! I am going back to my skating world, thank you very much!!!!
Same with our soccer fans here in Italy and I guess the same is about football fans in the USA.
It's a pity that popular sports turn violent when they have a large fanbase.
I heard that there were some not very pleasant demonstrations after the Bruins won the cup last night. Is that true?
well Vancouver saw riots last night after the Canucks lost....
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Does anyone know anything about "recall"? This might be a good time to find out more about it. We ALL need to understand that we, the taxpayers and voters employ them. WE are their bosses. Not everyone will be pleased by every vote in Congress, but WE should be able to hand out "pink slips" when congressmen and women don't "do their jobs".
So take YOUR government into YOUR hands and let our senators and representatives know we are very interested in what they do.
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Shammy, general taxes are not supposed to fund SS. Also, perhaps Obama and his crew of morons shouldn't have given SS less revenue by reducing contributions. You can't have it both ways.
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"The Baby Boomers are starting to retire. When they all go, how are the younger people going to be able to afford the taxes," he asked."
They should probably consult those (same) folks who insisted we could afford tax-cuts...back in 2001 & 2003. Those folks were (also) "noted" business-owners & capitalism "royalty". They should certainly have all the answers...by now.
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7 Halloween Costumes That Never Look as Cool as You Think
#3. Cross Dressing
Why people do it ...
As simple and juvenile as it is, it's still funny to see a big ol' hairy dude in a dress and full makeup. Blond wig spilling down his furry shoulders. A stuffed bra pushing out from his chest. Especially if you know the guy.
It's a chance to let people know that you don't take yourself too seriously. Also, you're so secure in your masculinity that you can poke fun at it. After all, it's the sheer contrast between the frilly dress and your "real" tough-as-bull's-nuts lumberjack personae that makes the joke work.
Wait, that's a MAN? I couldn't tell at all!
Why it's a terrible idea ...
This depends on your circle of friends. But there are certain guys who are just deeply, deeply weirded out by the sight of a dude in a dress and they will not let it go. Obviously, lots of people at the party will make jokes about your costume. That's the idea. But then there are these guys, the ones who just don't know when to let it die. They will constantly grab your comically oversized tits, even as you try to balance the next round of beers on the way back to your table. Depending on the alcohol level and depravity of your friends, you'll be fake dry-humped until your ass throbs in an area the exact shape and size of a dick. But it won't stop there.
"One more dry hump, and you get to explain how you got your ass beat by a man in a dress."
For the next couple of weeks at work, you'll be asked if you could put on a bra because you're distracting the other workers. They'll ask if you remembered to shave your legs. And the four most common words used in association with your name will be "purse," "tampon," "panties," and "vibrator." For probably the first time in your life, you'll have to weigh the options of life without parole versus waiting for it to just fade away. Until next Halloween when they remember and start the whole thing over again.
Probably shouldn't have done the banana thing. And then had sex with them.
#2. Animal Costumes
Why people do it ...
What girl hasn't at least considered dressing up as an adorable kitten? It's cheap as hell -- the ears cost like a buck, and the rest is just a black body suit with a makeshift belt/tail combo. The face makeup isn't complicated to apply. I, uh... assume.
Yeah, you're always going to have a couple of women show up as cats, but the ones I've met just pretend they're from the same litter and give lots of "awwwwws" and compliment each others' creative use of mascara and eyeliner to draw on the whiskers. If they're strangers, the cat costume just made them new friends for at least that night.
Well, at least until they start competing on blowljob prices.
Why it's a terrible idea ...
That is, animal suit fetishists who will be masturbating to your costume.
Even ten years ago, the kitten costume would have gone mostly unnoticed in a room full of drunken Severus Snapes, Shreks, and Legolases. But the internet ruined all of that when we invented furries, followed by the volcanic rage we feel when we see them.
Via Tattooculture.ro
Oh, come on. Tell us you can look at that without wanting to punch him back to normal.
Halloween is the one day of the year that furries can be themselves and slip into a crowd, virtually unnoticed. Mingling with innocent, unsuspecting people who would under normal circumstances bathe them in white hot, molten ridicule until they wept bile.
As for the non-animal costume wearers, when we see the standard, cookie-cutter kitten at a party, we have to stop and make sure we haven't been tricked into accidentally befriending one of their kind. At least one male at the party will be thinking, "The person most likely to engage in some genital hunch-fucking is that 'sexy cat' with the giant cleavage. But do I want to risk hitting on and possibly having sex with an actual furry? I am in such a boner dilemma right now. And it's making my panties ride up my crack."
OK, the whore part, we have covered. But how sure is my boner that she knows it's Halloween?
#1. The Ironic Non-Costume
Why people do it ...
You know these. A plain t-shirt that just says "COSTUME" on the front. A guy named Frank wearing a name tag that says "Raoul," placed on his normal outfit. A guy in his pajamas, claiming it's "me when I first wake up."
You'll find at least one at every Halloween party in existence. Why not? They're fun. Cheap. Easy to put on. You're able to technically say you put on a costume so you don't look like a killjoy. And when the night is over, there's no makeup to remove or complicated outfit to disassemble. People dressed as slutty Transformers know what I'm talking about.
Via Scaryjane.com
Totally original and not at all douchebag idea.
Why it's a terrible idea ...
You're doing it for two reasons. First, you're legitimately trying to be witty and funny. The problem is that Halloween costumes are a terrible humor medium. Ninety-nine percent of "funny" costumes at best produce a forced courtesy laugh when you tell people what you're supposed to be. It's a joke that lasts about five seconds, but that you'll be wearing all night. And then will live on in however many Facebook albums you show up in. So you'll be explaining your joke costume, over and over again, for that same courtesy laugh, forever.
The second reason is that you just plain don't give a shit about dressing up, and you did the least amount of work possible just to say that you wore something to a costume party, just to get people off of your back. Because you're the kind of person who, above all, hates the idea of conforming to someone else's idea of fun.
Via Lovetoknow.com
Yes, you're incredibly witty. We'll all be over here if you need us.
To the rest of the partygoers who did show up in costume, that makes you a douchebag because it now looks like you just showed up for the free booze and/or food. The party meant so little to you that you weren't even willing to put ten minutes worth of effort into humoring the host or other guests. You might as well have showed up with an empty cooler an hour early, loaded up what you could eat and drink, and went back home with the loot.
It would have been much funnier and appreciated if you had taken the time to build a giant middle finger costume and told everyone to go fuck themselves the whole night. Which now that I think about it, I believe I now have my costume this year.
And be sure to check out Cracked's Page of Horror for more of John's musings on costumes.


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Primer prices. What are you paying?
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> Primer prices. What are you paying?
February 9, 2013, 11:43 AM
A friend just paid $65 for 1,000 209 primers. I just paid $8 for 200 Federal Large Rifle primers and thats after my 10% discount.
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February 9, 2013, 11:45 AM
Might be a better question for the reloading forum... They are priced sky high.
February 9, 2013, 11:46 AM
I bought some two weeks ago at a gun show. $3.50/100.
February 9, 2013, 11:52 AM
I'm not buying until the current panic subsides and prices return to sane levels. I stocked up after the 2008 panic, but should have shelved more. Will correct once I start buying, again. But I refuse to pay the Blackbeard prices that are the current state of affairs. Even if it meant no loading or shooting for a year I would wait. Paying the scalpers (and any primers for sale now were purchased at the pre-panic wholesale price so they are jacking the profits) offends me and I won't do it.
February 9, 2013, 12:05 PM
My LGS is still selling primers for normal prices when they can get them. I bought 2K large pistol a couple weeks ago for $30/1k. Need to go back and pick up some more when they get more in....
Large rifle (standard) was $32/1k last I was in there.
Magnum rifle were $35/1k, but they only had about 300 left. A buddy of mine bought them up for his 300WM.
February 9, 2013, 12:18 PM
1k of srp Remington 34.99
February 9, 2013, 01:03 PM
Just paid 31.00 per 1000 at a lgs for Winchester lpp
If the price is right and I have the budget I'm buying whether that be primers or.powder this is my new rule I don't care if I fill up the spare bedroom its all an investment
Prices may stabilize but they will never get cheaper. Also there is a gunshow next weekend which had some good deals last time but...I bet now it's all gouged last time they had 5k Winchester lpp for 119.00 and I missed them after waiting in line for an hour I bet now those same primers will be 150.00 next weekend.
February 9, 2013, 01:23 PM
CCI large and small rifle $29.99
Remington 9 1/2 $32.99
Have several K of pistol primers and got them before king Obama started panic. But those were 25-30 dollars if I can remember.
February 9, 2013, 01:24 PM
The prices should get cheaper as time goes. We went through this a few times before and they always come back. It just amazes me how people start the gouging. I think we all know people who a very capable of doing this and regularly do this kind of behavior,whether it be plowing snow to selling hay. I've often wondered how they can look at themselves in the mirror, but they do.
I know for me, I will not forget the businesses that are not just recouping their costs, but are out to make a killing at our expense. They are the ones causing the proplems, because in most cases, they are the ones who bought everythign up to keep their "supply" up for this very situation.
February 9, 2013, 01:31 PM
$27/k tula small pistol about a month ago
February 9, 2013, 01:35 PM
$36.99/1000 CCI & Federal SPP & LPP
February 9, 2013, 01:41 PM
I bought 1,000 small pistol primers from the local reloading shop. I paid $28+tax for them. Large rifle, anything Magnum and especially shotgun primers are easily had.
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February 9, 2013, 01:43 PM
Qty 15K Federal 150 LPP, with shipping and hazmat included, worked out to $29/K. This was through Powder Valley; ordered on January 4th, received January 24th.
February 9, 2013, 05:06 PM
I picked up 1k Winchester large pistol primers for 32$ at the last gunshow here in January
February 9, 2013, 05:35 PM
I paid $21.95 a thousand for Nobel 209s last night from Gamaliel. They were listed in stock and now I"m waiting for them to arrive. The site mentioned thar items not in stock could have a long wait time. As I have plenty of SR, LR, LP, and SP, I'm not in a hurry to replenish those and it takes a whole lot longer to load any of those than it does with shot shells when I'm doing it with a MEC 9000. Really like that machine!!!
February 9, 2013, 05:46 PM
Just paid 565.00 for 2500 #35 cci. Thought that was pretty good all things considered.
February 9, 2013, 06:06 PM
Two weeks ago I bought 6k primers at $40/K.
This week I was back in the store and I saw they raised their prices to $60/k.
I'm done for a while.
February 9, 2013, 06:17 PM
This may not float everyone's boat, but I found Berdan primers in stock at Graf & Sons. Here's the link if you're interested:
For years, I had trouble finding these, then suddenly about a year ago, Grafs had scads of them. It's kind of ironic that now that the world is panic-buying everything gun related, Berdan primers can be had at $30 per 1000.
February 9, 2013, 06:19 PM
I have bought 4000 primers in the last month. CCI BR-2 $45, CCI #200 Large Rifle $32, CCI #400 Small Rifle $32, CCI #500 small pistol $28
February 9, 2013, 06:35 PM
I bought primers in 2005 the last time. Paid $68 per case (5000). Still have 4 cases of LPP and 4 cases of SPP. Don't buy on 1000 quantities. No price break. I will wait until they come back down.
February 9, 2013, 07:25 PM
As of today, $49.99 for a brick of CCI BR4 SRM at the LGS. I did not need any, but asked the price as I was pleased to see them available.
February 9, 2013, 07:33 PM
Bought 5000 Tula LPP Jan. 18 for $20.50 per 1000 from Powder Valley.
February 9, 2013, 07:44 PM
Same as pre-crisis.
February 9, 2013, 07:54 PM
This may not float everyone's boat, but I found Berdan primers in stock at Graf & Sons. Here's the link if you're interested:
For years, I had trouble finding these, then suddenly about a year ago, Grafs had scads of them. It's kind of ironic that now that the world is panic-buying everything gun related, Berdan primers can be had at $30 per 1000.
I saw that earlier. Just out of curiosity, what are you reloading, how many times can you re-prime a case and get good results?
February 9, 2013, 08:06 PM
Gotten pretty ugly when people are paying for a single primer what they were paying for a complete loaded round a few months ago.
February 9, 2013, 08:23 PM
A friend just paid $65 for 1,000 209 primers
Well, that sucks, I just paid $98 for 5000 209 primers
February 9, 2013, 08:35 PM
If you don't mind back ordering them and going on a waiting list you can get them at Powder Valley for $21 per 1,000.
February 9, 2013, 08:49 PM
In northern Illinois, primers are $4.95-$5.95 for rifle/pistol, shotgun are $6.49 per hundred. That's IF you can find some :fire:
Dodge DeBoulet
February 9, 2013, 08:54 PM
If you don't mind back ordering them and going on a waiting list you can get them at Powder Valley for $21 per 1,000.
Powder Valley isn't accepting back orders at this time. There's an explanation on their home page . . .
February 9, 2013, 09:49 PM
I saw that earlier. Just out of curiosity, what are you reloading, how many times can you re-prime a case and get good results?
I purchased berdan primers early last year, but they are still sitting on the shelf (it has been a "fun" year... no, not really).
My plan is to reload some 7.5x55 GP-11 brass and some Yugo 7.62x39, but I haven't gotten to it yet. So, sorry, I don't have any first hand experience to share.
On the plus side, I now have the primers on hand so I can act when the opportunity presents itself, which wasn't the case a few years ago when I had the free time to do this.
Hondo 60
February 9, 2013, 10:14 PM
I'm not buying until the current panic subsides and prices return to sane levels.
Amen, brother!
I saw one post where there was an individual who paid $89/1k for SPP.
I'll just stay home from the range if they're still that high when my stock pile is gone.
February 9, 2013, 10:21 PM
I'm still working on the ones I stocked up on pre-2008; the price sticker on the box of Winchester Small Pistol Primers I recently opened was $16 per 1,000. I wish I'd bought more, but when they're in stock at the gun club store, they're currently $30 per 1,000 nowadays.
February 9, 2013, 10:21 PM
One LGS is at 30.99 per 1,000. Across street 42.99 per 1,000. Guess who is moving inventory and who isn't. I just got my quarterly stocking order. Myself and 4 others buy 25,000 primers per quarter and split up between us. Our supplier tagged us for 23.00 per 1,000 at that volume this time and apologized for having to do it. Pretty sure he took a bit less margin to sell them to us that cheap but after a decade of our business he probably wants us happy. Our 1 lb powder prices were 20 per lb and my 8 pound keg of Unique was 118.
February 9, 2013, 11:06 PM
$26/1000 cci
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February 9, 2013, 11:30 PM
$43 (including tax) for 1000 win large pistol primers at the LGS..
February 9, 2013, 11:34 PM
I paid $32 /1000 for spp about 2 weeks ago, so I grabbed 2K of them. Not the cheapest I've found, but nobody else has them. They had 3 cases of them, but would only sell 2K per customer.
February 9, 2013, 11:48 PM
Before the crunch, CCI primers were running $28/1000 and now they are $30/1000. The CCI NATO primers are a little higher @ $32/1000.
For some reason 209 primers are expensive and were before the crunch too. I think it has something to do with the huge increase on inline muzzle loaders. It's been a long time since I've seen 209 primers for less than $4/100. And, the ones they are marking as muzzleloader primers are even higher @$8/100, what a ripoff since they are the same but for the packaging! lol
February 10, 2013, 12:34 AM
I bought CCI 550s yesterday for $35 per K. Considering the situation with components around here I thought it was an ok price.
February 10, 2013, 12:49 AM
I bought CCI 550s yesterday for $35 per K. Considering the situation with components around here I thought it was an ok price.
I think that would be my limit but no more...
Lost Sheep
February 10, 2013, 01:20 AM
Anchorage, Alaska, 6 months ago, $32 per 1000 for most primers for metallic cartridges. SPP, LPP, SRP, LRP. at Sportsman's Warehouse.
I just went there this afternoon. $43 on the shelf labels. But there was no inventory there.
Lost Sheep
February 10, 2013, 01:32 AM
$33/1k for small pistol primers, lgs
$31/1k for large rifle primers from wal mart
February 10, 2013, 02:07 AM
Most recent purchase was $3.99/100 LRP and $54/1000 SPP.
February 10, 2013, 02:29 AM
Most recent purchase was $3.99/100 LRP and $54/1000 SPP.
Sorry but that is just way too much. There is no way I would pay anyone $54 for 1000 SPP. I would really rather do without than let someone rip me off. I know how much the dealers are charging the store and $54/k is a ripoff!
You should make notes and remember who charged too much and make sure you do not buy from them in the future!
February 10, 2013, 04:33 AM
I certainly didn't want to pay the $54 (that's after tax FYI) for something that was $35 just weeks before but having just gotten into reloading its still worth it to me. Especially when I can't find the ammo I want for .32S&W Long. Once I find and buy 1000 plated bullets I will probably be set on ammo for that revolver for a Very long time. $0.02 more per round isn't a big deal to me and when prices return to normal I'll be all the happier.
February 10, 2013, 07:48 AM
Yesterday I paid $28.99 for federal small pistol, and on the shelf right beside it was cci large pistol for the same price.
I stock more than what I shoot in a year, and I won't buy anything at the panic price unless I need it, but I refuse to join the crowd that cries of gouging.
Gouging means we have a free market. This is not a bad thing. Everyone can choose to pay or not to pay that price. The kind of demand that strips shelves bare justifies raising the price. I would rather see the price raised how ever high it has to go to reduce sales to the point there's still a few boxes on the shelf, than see the employees buying stock as it comes in and flipping it for 300% price online.
Looking at a bare shelf with a low price sticker helps no one. If it was available at 300% of the regular price, I would like that for two reasons. 1) If I needed it, I could still get it. 2) Primarily, the high price will be paid by those who did not plan ahead. At least they will still be able to meet their needs.
It's like buying a generator during a power outage. I was in a store once, and they guy had a sign that said exactly that. "Generator prices are double in the dark". I found it humorous, and appreciated his upfront honesty.
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February 11, 2013, 12:00 AM
Purchased CCI LR primers today for $29.90/K for a friend. The store had all sizes in stock for that price. Their limit was 2,000 primers a day.
February 11, 2013, 12:37 PM
I paid $42.00 for 1000 small pistol this last weekend here in Kansas. Only one other place has them in town and they have a limit of 100 (1 box) per day.
February 11, 2013, 12:46 PM
Just paid 565.00 for 2500 #35 cci. Thought that was pretty good all things considered.
I HOPE that you forgot a 0 on that 2500??
Otherwise, that's $226.00 per K?? OUCH...Bill.
My Bad..That's 50 BMG Primers--Right??
February 11, 2013, 12:52 PM
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LAKE TAHOE — With the potential for the 2022 Winter Olympic Games out of the picture, will Lake Tahoe submit a bid for the 2026 Games? While it may seem far away, officials say preparations for a bid must be taken now if Tahoe wants to make a serious run at hosting the international event.
The U.S. Olympic Committee made the decision on July 3 to not submit a bid for the 2022 Games, instead choosing to focus on the 2024 Summer and 2026 Winter Games. This decision was made so potential host cities, as well as the USOC, have more time to prepare thorough, well thought-out bids, according to various reports.
While this news may appear as a setback to some, the Lake Tahoe Winter Games Exploratory Committee is not phased by the longer wait.
"The news that came out ... was not a huge surprise for us," said Andy Wirth, CEO of Squaw Valley and Alpine Meadows, as well as chairman and president of the exploratory committee. The committee is supportive of the USOC's decision, Wirth said, and actually discussed the fact the USOC may not pursue a 2022 bid.
Lake Tahoe, along with Denver and Bozeman, Mont., had all began preparing bids for the 2022 Games. The Lake Tahoe committee has recently joined forces with several former Olympians and local athletes to promote the Winter Games coming back to the area. Athletes such as Jonny Moseley and Tamara McKinny, as well as several other past Winter Olympians, have all stepped up for their home turf in hopes of bringing the flame back to Olympic Valley and the surrounding areas.
Squaw Valley hosted the Winter Olympics in 1960.
"(The committee) plans to remain engaged on future Olympic bidding efforts, should the USOC choose to pursue a Winter Olympic Games," Wirth said. "There remains a great deal of interest in bringing the Games back to Lake Tahoe."
One group in particular that is interested in bringing the Olympics — and the large crowds that come with hosting such a large event — back to Tahoe are the local businesses. Steve Hoch, executive director of the Tahoe City Downtown Association, said he is in full support of bringing the Olympics to the lake.
"We think it's a spark for commercial efforts here in the basin," Hoch said. "It puts us on an international stage once again."
Hoch added that there are a lot of positives to hosting the Games, besides bringing more business to the area.
"... It gives us an opportunity to upgrade our infrastructure and services for long after. If you have the Olympics in the area, you have to have a seamless infrastructure," Hoch said. "What could happen in 10 years could happen a lot faster with the Olympics in town. There's nothing like the preparation for, and the funding, that goes with an Olympic bid."
The current transportation around Lake Tahoe consists of a mostly two-lane road, and some ferry services. With the congestion roads around the basin see now, officials have said that construction of wider roadways or a railway system would be needed to accommodate the thousands, if not millions, of visitors the Games would bring.
According to previous reports, a Tahoe bid for the Winter Games would include Reno and Sacramento as event locations; Nevada Lt. Gov. Brian Krolicki, who's helped spearhead the effort over the past few years, has said that an ideal bid could have 75 percent of the events happen outside the Tahoe Basin.
While the Games could jump-start Tahoe's economy and provide more jobs, there are environmental concerns for the area. Ron Grassi, conservation co-chair for the Tahoe Area Sierra Club, said the lake's clarity is getting worse every year.
"You have to ask, can the Tahoe Basin handle it? I'm one of many, but I personally can't even conceive that the basin could handle it," Grassi said. "What we have to figure out here in the basin is, what is the basin's capacity?"
The Tahoe area is already heavily developed, Grassi said, and it can't possibly handle much more construction, condos, hotels, traffic and general pollution that comes along with too many people in one area.
"At some point, we're going to have just too many (people and buildings)," he said. "I don't think the lake has the capacity to handle a full-blown Olympics."
Laurel Ames, also with the Tahoe Area Sierra Club, echoed Grassi.
"We're not opposed to the Olympics. That is not the issue," Ames explained. "It's important to separate enthusiasm for the Olympics from the potential impacts on the Tahoe Basin, and that's difficult."
Ames has lived in Tahoe since 1947, and has seen the area change drastically from what it once was.
"It's going to take a huge amount of planning and money to protect the lake from a large onset of people, and the Olympics bring a lot of people," Ames said. "That's a very difficult challenge, not that (the committee) can't do it. Hopefully they can make the kind of effort that is required."
The South Shore-based League to Save Lake Tahoe is another environmental group concerned about environmental impacts the Olympics could bring.
"Hosting the Olympic Games is one of the greatest challenges any community can face," Darcie Goodman-Collins, the league's executive director, wrote in an email.
The league is concerned about losing funding to construction of roads and facilities associated with the Olympics, Goodman-Collins said, along with the damage these projects could cause the lake.
"Given the fact that roads and construction actively are the leading causes of Lake Tahoe's continually declining clarity, the league is also concerned about the effects these massive construction projects might have on Tahoe's world-renowned crystal clear waters," she explained.
The league does look forward to, however, participating in conversations on implementing an environmentally beneficial event that protects Lake Tahoe as a national treasure, Goodman-Collins added.
Both California and Nevada civic leaders are working together, pushing for an Olympic bid. While the Reno-Tahoe Coalition no longer exists, the states will continue to work side by side to determine where to host various events, Wirth said.
Still, the concern for the environmental impacts remain.
"There are efforts (being taken) based around sustainability projects that can leave the area better than before the Winter Games," Wirth explained. "We're building and developing a coalition of the region's top environmental leaders."
While the coalition has not yet announced the environmentalists involved in the committee, Wirth noted that leaving the Tahoe area better than they found it is one of the main priorities.
"There are certain projects we could consider from staging the Games, (such as) improving the transportation infrastructure in the region. Things like a light rail from Reno to this area are certainly not off the table," Wirth said. "Increasing quality and clarity of the lake by removing the negative projects surrounding the lake. (We've) set the objectives and strategic goal of having events that leave the lake in better shape than it was."
Wirth added that these ideas are not unfounded, noting other cities that have hosted the Games have also improved their infrastructure and environment. Wirth explained that both the Salt Lake City and Vancouver Olympics left positive economic, as well as environmental, footprints following the events.
Some conservationists remain skeptical, however, and protective of their lake.
"It's a risky thing," said Bob Anderson, chair of the executive committee of the Tahoe Area Sierra Club. "It's a lot of risk for the lake. There will be years of increased visitation and development (following the Games)."
"All I can say is I love the Olympics, and I love to watch them," Grassi added. "I just don't see it fitting in at Lake Tahoe."


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Rated 5 out of 5Â by Store Friend Wonderful Long-Lasting Winter Sheets This is my third set of flannel sheets from Portugal. I highly recommend to anyone who likes warm sheets in the winter time. February 22, 2016
Rated 2 out of 5Â by Unhappy Housewife Sheets are pilling already! The sheets are warm, however they are pilling already! We have only had them a couple of weeks. They have been laundered twice, and a tremendous amount of lint has come off of them. I am disappointed with the quality. February 16, 2016
Rated 5 out of 5Â by Flannel Believer a cold husband! My husband is always colder than I and bundles up at night. And when I have tried flannel sheets int he past, they turn out to be thin, shrink significantly upon first wash and have been most unsatisfactory. I thought it might be worth a try when I saw Vermont's Portuguese Flannel, but I thought for sure I would be returning them. Well, husband LOVES them. He sleeps warmer, they did not shrink and we have a happy ending! Thank you. I may buy some more soon! February 10, 2016
Rated 5 out of 5Â by ViperTruck505 great sheet set after gettin out of my cheap mode and ordered the flannel sheet set, i was/am very impressed with it. washed them first thing & put on the bed. fit is great. sleep is great. been a bit cool here in Texas & the sheets are great. they have a warmth that is just right for me and they look great, went with the red plaid. and as always, great product and great service February 7, 2016