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NORTH TONAWANDA – When Karl Kindt III went to visit his father's military grave in France 17 years ago, a statue of King Arthur inspired him to invent a new job for himself: as a storytelling knight.
After that trip, he found someone to make a suit of armor for him out of "mild steel," a kind of iron used in medieval times. He began wearing it in parades, classrooms, churches and Scout meetings as he told fables to encourage children take a chivalrous approach to their lives.
This hobby has led mayors of 10 cities, including North Tonawanda, to "knight" him. He thinks of it as a tribute to his father, veterans and his late stepfather, John Prescott.
"He told me about my natural father who had been a soldier in World War II and was killed. He encouraged me with stories of knights and chivalry to think of my father as a knight who had gone off to battle," said Kindt, 67. "I kind of grew up thinking of myself as a son of a knight. And so when I got be 50 years old, the idea of becoming a real knight came back to me when I went to visit my father's grave in France."
For the last eight years, Kindt, who now lives in St. Louis, has been including North Tonawanda, Lockport and Niagara County on his knightly route. A former pastor at Union Road Community Church in Cheektowaga, he is making plans now for a local visit to schools and libraries sometime in the spring or summer.
What do you do for a full-time living?
I work for a law firm as a media technologist. I go into court with attorneys and help them make sure the Power Points work.
Then I teach at a university, too, part time. Webster University. I teach 3-D photography. I do workshops, too, for children to teach them how to do it. Workshops I've done in libraries have been sold out. It looks like everyone wants to do 3-D nowadays.
What can you tell me about your father?
My dad's name is on the memorial wall in front of City Hall in North Tonawanda. Karl Martin Kindt II. He had just graduated from Lockport High School in 1942. He was drafted into the Army in 1943. He was a radio operator for the anti-aircraft guns on Long Island for a while. But then he was sent over to fight against the Nazis in Germany in 1944. He was killed on April 12th of 1945. Twenty years old.
And your mother?
She gave birth to me in July of that year.
Did she have a career?
Just in the home. Marjorie. Howard was her maiden name. When I was small I asked about him. My mother gave me a letter that my dad had written to me. He knew I was on the way. It was addressed to the "New One."
What does it say?
In the letter, basically, he says, "Your mother and I have prayed for you and your future and development." Then he concludes that if he should fail to return, it would be a great honor to give his life for the peace and security of me and my mother.
Your stepfather was a friend of your father's?
They had played football together. Sandlot football. My stepdad went to North Tonawanda High. My stepdad, he worked for New York Telephone all his life. He was a lineman and installer.
Do you have a family?
I've been married to my wife, Margie, for 46 years. She's a writer. She was asked to read one of her stories on the airwaves in New York City, and it was titled "Prairie Fire." It's a memoir of her father standing watching their home burn down. NPR broadcast it. She helps me with some of my stories. I've got two sons who are married. Three granddaughters.
What do they think about you going around as a knight?
My granddaughters sometimes have gone with me. They have been princesses in parades. All dressed up. My wife rides with them. My son Karl, if I'm sick or something, he can substitute.
Your other son is a graphic novelist?
Matthew Kindt. A couple of his graphic novels are being scripted for movies. One of them, titled "Three Story," is about a man who keeps on growing and doesn't stop growing, and all the problems that he has because he gets bigger and bigger.
He's fast on the draw, let's put it that way. He's always been a fast drawer even as a little boy. I guess that's why he can make money as a graphic novelist. He's a good storyteller, too. He was born in Cheektowaga.
Where did you get your armor?
I had to have it made. The man who made it lives in Idaho. Christian Fletcher. I sent him some photographs. He was making real suits. He's retired from making armor. Now he just makes swords.
Does the suit need any special care?
I use a lot of WD 40.
What do you do when you have it on?
Sometimes I do guard work with police officers. Most of the time, I tell these ridiculously funny stories. They all have a wonderful moral to them.
Tell me one.
Sir Watermelon. It's a story about a little tiny boy who has a watermelon roll over him, and it squishes his face in the mud. He gets mad and grows up to be a knight and winds up cutting everybody's watermelons.
So the problem in the story is the little boy loses his temper … We all get mad, it just depends what you do with your "mad strength." When you and I get mad we get full of energy, strength. The problem is, "So what do you do with all that mad strength?" So I tell the children, "Use it to pick up your room. Use it to do something good."
I think one of things, instead of lecturing children, what you need to do is spice up your advice to them with good humor. Make the kids laugh.
You teach about bravery with another story about a baby chick who rescues a girl from a dragon while a knight hides in a tree?
You don't get to be brave because you have big muscles, but by forgetting about yourself and thinking of others instead.
That's the way I teach children where courage comes from. Sometimes I'll mention that my dad, who gave his life for others, was courageous because he wasn't thinking abut himself, he was thinking of others.
How do you come up with so many stories?
I had a really good stepdad who had a good imagination. Every night when he tucked us into bed, he would tell us ridiculous stories. It's not hard for me to tell a story about anything.
You haven't lived here since your were in your 20s and moved back home after college for a few years to work as a pastor?
I've had 37 jobs in my life. Manager of a movie theater. Gardener at the Schoellkopf Estate in Niagara Falls. I was an elevator operator in Niagara Falls, in the parks department. The business had its ups and downs. I got tired of hearing that joke.
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Your brother's ghetto car is chutch.
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Someone who engages in the act of chutching (masturbation while crying)
Tom is such a fucking chutch. All he does is bitch and moan.
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from the Greek "chutkis" meaning to sulk while concentrating on the art of masturbation
Grant couldn't seem to find a decent picture of Jenna Jameson, so he chutched about for an hour and then fell asleep.
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A Guatemalan style of masturbation usually derived from the lack of friends, the lack of self esteem, or the knowledge that you are going no where in life. seen most commonly in individuals with names beginning with "P". always results in tears being shed, ejaculation is never achieved.
that guatemalan looks like he just got done chutching. his eyes are all watery and he has a distinct look of dissatisfaction
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Butt-hole touching of any sort.
Touching a butt hole for any reason.
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Every time I think of you I chutch myself.
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A name given to a cousin you work with in the field of construction. Usually younger, perhaps an apprentice. Must be an actual relative.
Hey Chutch, we need some more lumber over here, if u ever come out of that port-a-potty! And a box of nails!
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a chutch is the area between the asshole and the dang or vag. it is the same thing as a taint or durf.
yo, stop grabbing my chutch
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A hazy shade of value: Software patents just took a hit | Opensource.com
A hazy shade of value: Software patents just took a hit
Much of the problem with the current U.S. patent system involves haze. Whether it is ambiguity regarding what the patent covers or murkiness about whether the technology covered by the patent is actually new, patent plaintiffs regularly use this uncertainty to their advantage. This ambiguity–often planned–allows plaintiffs to leverage settlements against businesses that are forced
to either pay their own lawyers or opportunistic plaintiffs, or take their chances in court where judges and juries are often unsympathetic to companies.
This haze is particularly pronounced with software patents. Unlike electrical patents, in which the electrons of an accused circuit either move in the way described by the patent or they don't, software patents can be manipulated to cover "inventions" far removed from the patent's description or any intent of the patent's inventor.
An important area of "haze" frequently exploited by plaintiffs regards the calculation of damages. Most often, damages "models" are arrived at by a damages "expert" (paid by the plaintiff) picking a number (recommended by the plaintiff or its counsel) and then–after the fact–generating support for this number. Such "support" is often hazy in itself, relying on self-serving opinions on market trends, ultimately including only arguments that support a huge damages award.
Damages analysis in such cases is not empirical in any way. Unlike the methods of science that at least some of these patents are based upon, there is no true testing or empirical research. Instead of researching the market and technology and only then calculating a number based on research, the process is normally reversed. The problem with this "black box" approach is that virtually any number can be selected and presented to a jury that may sympathize with an individual inventor over a large corporation.
Earlier this week, the Federal Circuit (appellate court in charge of patent cases) removed a bit of the haze by invalidating the "25% rule" or "rule of thumb" (see opinion at UNILOC USA, INC. AND UNILOC SINGAPORE PRIVATE LIMITED, Plaintiffs-Appellants, v. MICROSOFT CORPORATION, Defendant-Cross Appellant [PDF]).
The gist of the rule was that a patent holder should be entitled to 25% of an infringer's profits. The problem, as the Federal Circuit pointed out, is that this approximation is not tied at all to what a reasonable negotiation between the parties would have produced (a requirement under patent law). At a minimum, the rule ignored many important factors, including consideration of the particular party, product, or industry involved, as well as commercial realities such as the amount of risk taken by the "infringing" party to successfully market the product.
The rule also overlooked the rates paid by the licensee for the use of other similar patents, any relationship between the patent holder and infringer, the portion of the profit or selling price that is customary in the particular business, and the patentee's licensing policies. Importantly, plaintiffs' use of the 25% rule ignored the fact that the same plaintiff usually wanted to apply the 25% figure to all sales of an entire product–even though the alleged patented invention was only a small part of the product–which additionally may have had nonpatented but market-changing elements added by the infringer. The effect of this was that the percentage of profit from the specific patented invention asked for was much greater than 25%.
The rule was merely a shortcut that eliminated much or all of the detailed analysis that should be a part of proper damages analysis. In other words, it was yet another way for patent plaintiffs to hide behind haze to produce unjustifiably large patent damages awards.
With this decision, the value of hazy patents, including software patents, has decreased. While further reform is needed regarding damages and other aspects of all patents, particularly software patents, the death of the "rule of thumb" eliminates an important weapon from patent holding companies and others that attempt to manipulate successful businesses through the patent system. In the end, all we can ask is that plaintiffs be required to prove their case–including their bases for damages. This recent ruling helps.
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About effin' time - score one for the good guys, score one for the consumer, and score one for justice.
That is some of the most encouraging news that I've heard of late.
From what I've seen of the Republican's policies of late, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't find a way to either reverse this or "tweak" it so that it gets real hazy again.
BTW, I'm not a Democrat or Republican or an independent. I'm discouraged.
this is a long time coming. It is sad we get so excited about something that should of been done years ago and is such a common sense item. But nothing about patents has much common sense involved.
That is an important step and it proves that it is acknowledged that there are problems with the system.
For software patents I think that the use on a computer makes part of the haze. Computers did become generally used, building software stays for quit a large part of the population mysterious. People with a legal profession are not the most active free time programmers.
Patents descriptions are apparently trying to limit the scope of the patent. Probably trying to avoid prior art. Using this in that specific platform etc. So every new platform can provoke many new patents. But should the scope even be limited to computers? Should using an obvious or old method for the first time on a computer even be patentable?
I can't interpret that law enough but for me it is not obvious that there is a different patent inside and outside a computer. Software being a procedure that is registered in a special format and a computer being a tool, one way to execute procedures.
I think very harmful patents are those where a company succeeds in setting a standard. A standard wherefore patents are needed. Patents held by the same company.
The company can now get it's research investment payed back many times. Obviously from that moment the company is not that much interested in improving the standard, in innovation, if that could create even a small risk for his market position. That same mechanism could also be used by a group of company's.
Not covering every problem, but for my feeling there is a conflict of interests having the possibility to push a standard and ask money for patents needed by that standard. Having a monopoly on a type of software and better supporting your own patent protected format.
I don't know it there are already laws against it. Perhaps the anti-trust legislation, using one monopoly to create an other?


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It's a Lancaster businessman with not a minute of political experience versus a man with decades of history on the local political scene and name recognition to boot in the race for the 143rd Assembly District.
But Republican challenger Frank M. DeCarlo or Democratic Assemblyman Dennis H. Gabryszak both agree: They wouldn't have it any other way.
Gabryszak, 60, a Sloan native and son of a village mayor, has spent his life in public service, first as a village trustee in Depew, then as a longtime town supervisor in Cheektowaga who went onto Albany six years ago and assumed the seat held for years by former Assemblyman Paul A. Tokasz.
Now, Gabryszak seeks a fourth-term in the Assembly to continue what he says is a state government that is finally headed in the right direction.
"I think it's much less dysfunctional that it was," said Gabryszak, who points to his own efforts to reach across the aisle to promote bipartisan cooperation and also credits Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo with creating "an atmosphere of working together" in state government.
He said one of his proudest accomplishments was working with State Sen. George D. Maziarz, R-Newfane, on the proceeds bill two years ago.
When fully implemented, that legislation will pump $10 million to 13 million per year into Western New York for economic development by redirecting proceeds from the sale of unused hydropower by the New York Power Authority.
"From an economic development front, we're going to see positive things come out of that in the future," he said, noting it will advance job creation and retention, and infrastructure improvements, and also promote business expansion and help keep existing companies and lure other industry here.
DeCarlo, 65, a small-business owner for four decades, isn't nearly as bullish on state government's ability to help business. The president of the 20-year-old Paragon Restoration Group in Depew cites what he describes as the state's penchant for spending, taxing and shackling businesses with unnecessary regulation.
DeCarlo believes that businessmen are now taking it upon themselves to run for office, fix what's wrong and return to their regular work. "Just take a look around you and see the shattered economy around Western New York," he said. "If I ran my business like New York State, I'd be out of business."
DeCarlo vilified state lawmakers for gross tax-and-spend policies that he said provide "designer sunglasses" and "limousine and cab rides back and forth from the hospital" to Medicaid patients while at the same time padding their own coffers and those of state employees.
DeCarlo, an Olean native who has lived much of his life in Depew and Lancaster and is a Vietnam-era Navy veteran, chided Gabryszak for failing on his promises to stand up to Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, D-Manhattan, and questioned his opponent's effectiveness in his six-year tenure.
What's the chief difference between Gabryszak and him?
"One word: results," said DeCarlo, who called the assemblyman a "nice guy" who has failed to deliver much more than a few "senior citizen vans" and "electronics drop-off" days.
Gabryszak said he never heard of DeCarlo but expects to meet him for the first time at the Taxpayers' Candidates Night event at 7 p.m. today in Maryvale Primary School.
Besides his success on the proceeds bill, Gabryszak also pointed to several other accomplishments on his record in the Assembly, including a four-year effort to get strangulation designated as a felony in the state's penal code in domestic violence cases as well as an equitable share of state transportation funds for the area.
A mistake in the funding formula by the state Department of Transportation resulted in a $166 million loss in funds for bridges, roads and highways in Western New York. Gabryszak said he worked with Sen. Timothy M. Kennedy, D-Buffalo, to get assurances from the DOT that those funds would be restored for the area.
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Global Warming Impact on Human/Mammal Health by 2100 Predicted
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The paper describes what would happen to humans and other mammals if global temperatures were to rise a certain amount over the course of this century
A Purdue climatologist has published a paper that questions, "How much
can humans physically handle?"
Matthew Huber, a Purdue University climatologist, wrote a scientific paper that describes what would happen to humans and other mammals if expected
rises in global temperature
were to occur by the year 2100. Average estimates from certain models land in the 3 to 4 degrees Celsius range, while others predict 10 or even 20 degree hikes.
Using a measurement technique called "wet-bulb temperature," Huber and Sherwood were able to model what would happen to humans if the 3, 4, 10 or 20 degree increases were to occur by 2100. The wet-bulb temperature method consists of a thermometer bulb wrapped in wet cloth and ventilated, which represents the most perfect scenario for a human to withstand increasing global temperatures: a naked, healthy adult standing in the shade while drinking gallons and gallons of water. Any other scenario that strays from this perfect example would place heat-related stress on a person or mammal to some degree depending on the increase in global temperature.
"We intentionally were trying to explore the upper limit of what humans can possibly stand," said Huber. "Essentially we were assuming a perfectly acclimated person, in perfect health, not performing physical labor, and out of the sun, and were then asking, 'What would it take to kill them quickly?' A real person would be profoundly uncomfortable, miserable and/or sick long before we reach the limit discussed in our paper. Infants, pregnant women, and the elderly would be especially vulnerable long before we hit the limit discussed.
"Thus, the global mean temperature increase of about >10°C that causes widespread heat death in our paper probably is a significant overestimate of the threshold at which substantial harm [would come] to societies and individuals would suffer harm and/or reduced productivity. Put in more prosaic terms, large parts of the world would be violating OSHA and international health standards for work long before we approach this >10°C threshold. But we wanted to be sure we had a limit set by physical and thermodynamic laws and not by human ones (since those are mutable)."
According to Huber, it's most important for the world to set a goal of what temperature increase to avoid. He believes avoiding a 2 degree Celsius increase by 2100 would be impossible by this point, but maybe a 6 degree (and definitely 10 degree) increase is preventable if the proper actions are taken.
If a 10 or 12 degree global temperature increase was achieved by 2100, Huber said people would likely be dying in the streets or running to air conditioned-only locations. However, increased air conditioning can lead to power grid issues, and the grid is strained enough as it is.
What would the world be like if we hit a 12 degree Celsius increase?
"My nightmare," said Huber. "I'm in Oklahoma on a hot summer day. Under a heat lamp. Running. Wrapped in plastic."
There is much debate over whether climate models are correct or not, so Huber's method of basing his results of off many of them (which have varied results of 3 to 20 degree Celsius predicted hikes by 2100) have caused scientists to be skeptical.
"The models aren't perfect," said Huber. "The thing to ask is, are they biased to produce a world that is too warm or
too cold in the future
? For 30 years, climate modelers have compared simulations of past climate change (glacial intervals, greenhouse climates such as the Eocene) against data and found that models get the general climate right but that they are systematically biased to be somewhat too insensitive to forcing. In other words, what modeling of past climates tells us is that these models are—if anything—biased to underpredict future climate change."
Another question addressed is whether humans can adapt to the increase in global temperature. Huber seems to think some can through burrowing, staying near bodies of water, reducing activities and becoming more active at night.
"The most direct way for humans to respond physiologically, which would take thousands of years if at all (we are most likely to change our behaviors) is to get small and skinny, to decrease our volume and maximize our surface area so we can lose heat more effectively," said Huber.
Earlier this week,
ExxonMobil CEO Rex Tillerson
said that manmade global warming has been overexaggerated, and that humans could easily adapt to rising global temperatures.
He also blamed a lazy press, illiterate public and fear-mongering advocacy groups for the bad light placed on the oil industry.
"We have spent our entire existence adapting," said Tillerson. "We'll adapt. It's an engineering problem and there will be an engineering solution."
Huber and Sherwood's
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RE: A challenge to those alarmed by human caused climate change
Observations from the May 2012 Climate Conference:
- According the UN's IPCC report, global sea levels have fallen.
- Over the past 500 years global temperatures rise and fall every 25-30 years.
- The UN's last ten-year temperature forecast was wrong–it never warmed. Period.
- Extra solar activity warms oceans (storing excess heat), causing a temporary sea level rise. When solar activity decreases the stored oceanic heat is released into the atmosphere to help the planet maintain a temperature balance (at which time the sea levels decrease).
- International satellite readings illustrate global sea-levels have dropped since 2010.
- NOAA satellites show that global temperatures have been dropping for the last two years.
- If CO2 were to double (or even triple) in atmosphere, plant life would thrive, crops would see great yields, habitats would be healthier, and people would live longer (by the way, CO2 does NOT drive temperature).
- in the US average longevity has increased due to people move from the north to the south (where temperatures average 15-20 degrees warmer)–by 7 years.
RE: A challenge to those alarmed by human caused climate change
Well played, Mr. StormyKnight. You almost had me there.
As a centrist, scientifically oriented layman that has never made a post on the subject, I admit that I misinterpreted your references. A little doubt was creeping in: maybe the establishment was lying to me, hood-winking me, pulling the wool over my eyes. Poor, foolish me.
But, that is your game isn't it? Your intent is to join Mr. Swash and deceive with plausibility and to divert from fact, is it not?
Here's what gave you away:
I thought, "Let's see what the UN's May 2012 Climate Conference had to say." Ohhh... I see... that wasn't a UN conference at all that you referenced. Nor was it a conference of non-political, unbiased, serious scientists trying to figure out how much if any portion of global warming is human influenced, and what are the repercussions. Very clever, indeed.
It was actually a conference that was held by the Heartland Institute. It seems that the entire purpose of the institute and their 'International Conference on Climate Change' series exists for one purpose and one purpose only: To refute any climate change result that finds that it is possible for humans to influence climate change, no matter what the actual scientific observations are.
Well it seems people are losing interest in Heartland and the ICCC. Donors are dwindling and supporters are pulling out.
It seems Heartland is so desperate to get attention that they felt compelled to place a billboard advertisement that implied that global warming believers were terrorists! Yea...ahhh.. class act, that group.
Ohh, one more thing Mr. StormyKnight. You forgot to provide any links. Here, I'll do it for you:
Now, getting back to the original article: It has too much sensationalism and speculation. Not enough factual observations are included in the article.
I don't doubt the researchers' ideas are plausible, but plausible isn't good enough.
I have an open mind and an affinity for groundbreaking results where the findings are counter to the expected - that is where great science often appears. So following that line of thinking, it's just as easy to say it's plausible that humans would thrive on a warmer planet.
But, affinity for either side doesn't make it right. Accurate, well-analyzed, and properly explained data makes for the 'right' conclusion.
There just isn't enough data presented in the article for the reader to feel that the author or the researcher have compellingly and conclusively made their point.
Even as a summary of the researcher's work, it failed to do anything other than draw the user's 'click' and start another useless debate from a bunch of people who 'know' little on the subject (might as well throw me in that group while we're opening the kimono).
So DailyTech, just how many times do you expect readers to click and be disappointed with the content, before they just start skipping your climate change articles?
I would suggest that you up the quality of the content (especially the analysis and explanation).
In any case here is a blurb from the extract (that DailyTech DID actually link):
"Peak heat stress, quantified by the wetbulb temperature TW, is surprisingly similar across diverse climates today. TW never exceeds 31 °C. Any exceedence of 35 °C for extended periods should induce hyperthermia in humans and other mammals, as dissipation of metabolic heat becomes impossible.
While this never happens now, it would begin to occur with global-mean warming of about 7 °C, calling the habitability of some regions into question.
With 11–12 °C warming, such regions would spread to encompass the majority of the human population as currently distributed. Eventual warmings of 12 °C are possible from fossil fuel burning.
One implication is that recent estimates of the costs of unmitigated climate change are too low unless the range of possible warming can somehow be narrowed. Heat stress also may help explain trends in the mammalian fossil record."
Now here is a layman's question (mine, of course):
If the researchers are saying that some areas would become too hot to be habitable, what would happen to the areas of the Earth that are currently too cold to be habitable today?
And, no I'm not taking sides. I just want to know the answer to this: If science is asking me and others to change behavior (ie: lower consumption, choose other products, lower procreation, pay higher taxes, pay higher prices), what happens if I and others don't? Who and what suffers? Who and what suffers the most?
Full disclosure: I really enjoy snorkeling on coral reefs and fishing in swamps and mangrove lagoons. I also enjoy building and operating high-powered computers and driving high-powered, high capacity vehicles. I enjoy taking flights of many, many thousands of miles in length to faraway places. I don't do these things all of the time, but I enjoy them on occasion.
So are we to stop doing these things? To what extent?
What if I have no children, but my neighbor has 4 - am I to sacrifice my lifestyle to subsidize his? What if he has 6, 12, 20, 30... children?
What if he is devoutly religious and his religion tells him not to use birth control? He only wants 1, 2, or 3 children, but his spirituality enabler tells him he must let his god decide how many times he inseminates his partner. What sacrifices must I make on his behalf, then?
What if I wish to 'do my part' and buy an electric vehicle because I feel that my 'wealthy' high-consumption nation is polluting the 'poor' low-consumption nations - but my neighbor next door wants to buy a cheaper, higher polluting vehicle because he doesn't believe there is a problem?
What if I don't believe there is a problem and I want to continue to operate the less efficient equipment that I already bought and paid for with hard-earned dollars? What damage will I do?
Let's take the gloves off - will this issue start wars? Cyber wars? Shooting wars? Fights for water? Fights for colder climates and real estate? Mass die-offs?
Don't just taunt us. What is really going on here? When and where? Ask the HARD questions!
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What do you think we should call free software?
A point of contention
It'll be quite obvious to those who are familiar with free software (or whatever you want to call it) that there is contention in regard to its name. Some call it "free software", others "open source", there are those who try the middle ground and call it "FLOSS" or "FOSS", and those who go against the crowds and call it "libre software".
What do you think we should call it and why?
Names for consideration
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Franz Kafka
what to call free software?
answer: call it ..... software
why? if you call it anything ,anything becomes a target of discrimination.
it is easy to say i won't use free software.
it is hard to say i won't use software.
software choice should be based on value not a label.
free soft ware is now the hunted.
if you are hunted why present a target?
An essay by RMS...
Here's an essay by Richard Stallman on why you should use the term "free software" over "open source":
FOSS for me
I prefer the term FOSS, as an acronym or not (as a techie, acronym usually though ;)). RMS's essay Dave Guard linked to delineates the difference between free software and open source--one leans towards the ethical reasons, while the other the technical reasons. I like both.
What's in a name
I think it should be called FSM just to keep it brief and to the point, but then I like acronyms.
FSM is an initialism, not an acronym. Trust me.
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This is soooo rigged...
Oh come, what answer do you expect to get at a site called "Free Software Magazine"?
I consider the whole issue to be pretty shallow. The idea of "free software" is far more important than what you call it, and I have little respect for valuing words over substance.
"Open source" was conceived as a marketing label for free software in order to clarify what the term "free software" confused. It was never intended to replace "free software" as a term, and it certainly was never a "new movement" or a "new concept" in itself.
The FSF created a schism by insisting that "open source" didn't mean the same thing as "free software", despite the fact that it clearly does: the FSF's definition of "free software" includes, as a defining property, the openness of the source, and the OSI's definition of "open source", includes, as a defining property, the freedom of that source to be copied, modified, and redistributed. Each definition includes the properties of the other, hence, each is a subset of the other. Use your set theory: the only way this can happen is if they are the same set!
You'll also note that any license which includes only the "freedom of the software" (clearing legal obstacles) or only the "openness of the source" (clearing technical obstacles) is inadequate to satisfy either "free software" or "open source" definitions, making it clear that neither concept is complete without the other.
(Any remaining differences between the FSD and the OSD are legalistic nitpicking details, inevitable when two different people attempt to codify the same concept in two different documents -- any free license worth using satisfies both)
So, my preferred term, in as much as I have one, is "free-licensed open source software". This is because the two critical properties are the freedom of the license and the availability of the material in a transparent form for editing, which means having the source (an essential requirement for exercising that freedom -- as the whole DRM/TPM debacle with both GPLv3 and CCPLv3 makes ever more clear).
It's also quite clear that this complete name can be contracted in many different ways for convenience: "free-licensed software", "open source software", "FLOSS", "free/open software", and even "free software".
Which gets us back to the point which Shakespeare made (or tried to make, anyway) a long time ago: "that which we call a rose...".
How is this "soooo rigged"?
"This is soooo rigged..."
I can assure you there has been and will be no vote tampering of any kind and that this poll is in no way "rigged". The title of your comment implies that you think we are tampering with the results or are cheating in some way. This is not the case.
However, it might be that you think the poll is "rigged" because the question says "What do you think we should call free software?" (emphasis added). I guess it could have been phrased "What do you think we should call it?", but I think that would have been a fairly vague title and I think the one we chose is fine the way it is. I would hope our community knows what "free software" is and the available answers make it clear that it's each individual's choice to call it what they like.
"Oh come, what answer do you expect to get at a site called "Free Software Magazine"?"
Well, we we're expecting to find out what our community thinks. We can't really expect anything more than that can we Terry? As you can see not everyone who reads FSM thinks "it" should be called free software, and that's what we were interested to find out. Of course, we are hoping that the results won't end up suggesting we have the wrong name for our magazine -- it would be pretty bad if most of our community preferred the term "open source" while we have the name Free Software Magazine.
Further, we thought the FSM community would find this poll and its results interesting. If you disagree Terry, and/or have any suggestions for future polls, you know what to do.
Thanks a lot for the rest of your comment. Your opinions are always well informed and well thought out and always add a lot to a discussion.
Sorry if I ruffled your feathers, Dave. No I don't imagine you are tampering with the votes. The point is, you don't have to.
In formal terms I am pointing out that the survey is rife with "systematic bias": you are asking the question of a group of people who came to a site called "Free Software Magazine", you used the term "free software" in the question, you then went on to immediately post your opinion (many people will always answer what they think a pollster wants to hear), and then linked to an article by Richard Stallman.
You also put the option "free software" first, and first answer always has a small bias. Also, only people who feel strongly will vote. Hence you are biased towards whatever the most zealous readers believe is "right" (and that's generally going to be biased towards the "free software" voters, there are probably many more people who actually use the term "open source", but the number who could actually be described as 'zealous' or 'self-righteous' about this practice is small, because anti-zealotry is a defining characteristic of that group).
In short, this is a very, very unscientific survey. If anyone is surprised that the current winner is "free software", or believes that it means anything strong other than "we want to pat ourselves on the back", then they are very, very gullible.
I suppose it has some value to you as a "normative exercise" (sociologist-speak for "preaching to the choir").
The truth is that a real survey that actually tells you something beyond what you wanted the result to be is a rare and beautiful thing. So, there's no shame in it. But I wouldn't value the results too highly, if I were you. ;-)
OTOH, it's a nice way to demo the new poll feature.
Let's go backwards...
OTOH, it's a nice way to demo the new poll feature.
That's right. Our first poll. We only hoped to have lots of people participating through commenting and voting and perhaps spark some good discussion on this issue. I think it's working in that regard. And I thank everyone for participating and encourage those who haven't voted to put in and be counted.
The truth is that a real survey that actually tells you something beyond what you wanted the result to be is a rare and beautiful thing. So, there's no shame in it. But I wouldn't value the results too highly, if I were you. ;-)
Exactly right. But our polls are not meant to be "real surveys" as you describe them. For a start we aren't asking a random cross section of the global community; we are asking our readers and already know they are biased... but by how much? We also know that we will only get responses from the more active members. Anyone looking at any stats should always weigh up who did the survey and what sort of people participated.
I suppose it has some value to you as a "normative exercise" (sociologist-speak for "preaching to the choir").
And we wanted to hear what the choir would prefer to sing. :)
In short, this is a very, very unscientific survey. If anyone is surprised that the current winner is "free software", or believes that it means anything strong other than "we want to pat ourselves on the back", then they are very, very gullible.
Science has nothing to do with this survey and we have made no attempt to suggest it. I don't see where you get the "pat ourselves on the back" attitude? We all know free software is going to be the winner. But as I said it's the other results that are interesting. For example, quite a few people are voting for "something else". I'm interested to hear what those "something else's" are. Perhaps this survey should have been "If free software wasn't called free software, what would you call it?" But then you'd expect the answer to be "open source software" wouldn't you.
You also put the option "free software" first, and first answer always has a small bias.
Good point. I'll jumble them up next time. But I don't think "something else" should go first. Do you? :)
Also, only people who feel strongly will vote. Hence you are biased towards whatever the most zealous readers believe is "right".
And this is always the case in democratic communities where voting is not compulsory. I don't think I have to name examples I'm sure you can think of another one.
In formal terms I am pointing out that the survey is rife with "systematic bias": you are asking the question of a group of people who came to a site called "Free Software Magazine"...
We can't ask anyone other than those who come to our site Terry. Further, we are only allowing people who log in to vote. I guess you won't like that either. The poll is also biased because we are only asking people who have net access, and people who can understand English. If we surveyed people at a train station, we'd be asking people who used public transport, who could read, and people who are capable of leaving their homes. The results would be skewed in a different way.
...you used the term "free software" in the question...
It's difficult not to use some term or another to describe what the question is about. I could have said "it" and let the answers explain the question but that would have seemed a bit odd. Besides plenty of people haven't chosen free software as the answer; they obviously knew what the question meant.
...you then went on to immediately post your opinion (many people will always answer what they think a pollster wants to hear), and then linked to an article by Richard Stallman.
FSM and I are not the same entity. I had my say on the poll and tried to get the ball rolling by providing further info. I assumed (correctly) that other participants would provide further information that would perhaps go against my vote.
Sorry if I ruffled your feathers, Dave. No I don't imagine you are tampering with the votes.
I do object quite seriously to a prominent FSM author and community member (you) accusing FSM staff (us) of "rigging" a poll. And, whether you meant it or not, the use of the term "rigged" implies exactly that. Imagine the new community members/readers seeing your post. Don't make out as though you think you can't influence people with your rhetoric.
In future Terry, I'd really appreciate it if you'd discuss your concerns with us via email first (it'll stop me from wasting so much space here on the site explaining things to you). That way we can explain the situation to you before you go sounding the alarm bells. If we still can't quell your fears, you can go ahead and post away, but at least you'll know where we're coming from first. (Note: please don't leap to the conclusion I'm trying to censor you. I just think you should find out where we're coming from first.)
Oh and you'd have to get me up pretty early in the morning to ruffle my feathers Terry. :)
Okay, bad word choice
It's apparent that "rigged" was a bad choice of words, I probably should've said "biased". I felt that my one sentence explanation was sufficient to make it obvious what I meant, and it honestly never occured to me that someone would think I meant you were altering the votes. But I can see how if you thought this was seriously implied that it would be upsetting.
4 votes so far for "Something else"?
For those of you who think free software should be known by a name that is not listed in the poll: please let us know exactly what you think it should be called by posting a comment.
I did
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Franz Kafka
I voted for "Free Software" since it's short and to the point without the explanation that FOSS or FLOSS requires. I usually use FOSS when I'm online and the person is likely to know what I mean, but I use "free software" with people who are not familiar with the subject.
Free For Me
Foss and Floss are fine for those who know what they are. When i first started searching for free software I would of never thought to search for those terms. Besides, with my budget free is always something I can afford :)
This isn't really a valid poll
There is a reason there are two names - there are two kinds of licensing.
Most BSD or BSD-like licenses, for example are *not* Free Software licenses.
As far as set theory, here you go: All Free software is a *subset* of "Open Source" software. That is to say, all Free software is also "Open Source" software. However, there is lots of "Open Source" software that fails to meet the licensing requirements of being called Free software.
In simplistic terms, unless the software uses the Gnu Public License, or something equally free (there is a list on the FSF site), it cannot be termed Free software.
This poll is like asking "What should Oranges be called? (a) Oranges (b) Fruit (c) Other" because Open Source is to fruit what Free software is to oranges.
Notice how I managed to avoid using an apple in the fruit analogy, just to avoid confusion. :-)
I think you are confusing "free" with "copyleft"
BSD licenses (minus the advertising clause, at least) certainly are "free".
What they aren't is "copyleft" licenses. But the FSD doesn't require copyleft in its definition of "freedom". Nor is the list of licenses on the FSF site intended to be exhaustive -- they are merely a list of licenses that the FSF has vetted and classified.
As for "lots" of open source licenses that are not free software licenses, I call your bluff. Let's see some examples.
AFAIK, the only real difference is the "talk back" clause. OSD recognizes licenses which require changes to be communicated back to the originator to be "open source". This is clearly just a disagreement over the implementation of copyleft, and calling it a major philosophical distinction is making a mountain out of a molehill.
What an idiot!
Free software is software that doesn't cost any money. It is in no way tied to Open Source, as most freeware programs do not come with source code.
"Vote early, and vote often." Al Capone
Free software = Logiciel libre
In France, we talk about "Logiciel libre", it's why i voted "Free Software" ... FLOSS and FOSS sound odd for us. And Confusion between open source and free software is dangerous for the future...
Free beer
Free software is fine with me, however, I like Software libre a little more. While Free software can be understood by wider public in both the meanings --as in its freedom and in its possible availability at no cost-- Software libre stands out with its gentility, does not call for the misreception and is still in my opinion easily understandeable. I think we should at least try to avoid confusion with free beer.
Self-decriptiveness, or worse - boring - doesn't differentiate yourself on any level.
"Free Software" is descriptive (and in this case, confusing and misleading), it cannot be trademarked and there can be a million people using the same name with impunity. "FLOSS"? Come on. Does that have a nice connotation to anyone?
"FOSS" - that's the building in my local hospital where I take physical therapy. And "Libre"? That's what "Free Software" is gonna' be called in Latin America and Spain. Lot of imagination went into that one, I can tell. And "Software Libre" is gonna' have latinos lining up around the Best Buy waiting for their free gift.
Hey - my submissions may stink too, but compared to the others I see, I think "Something Else" as the actual name should be in the lead.
30 years in IT, CISSP, MCSE and burnt.
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Why the need to use a foreign language which, despite what you think, some people will not understand clearly? Picking up from my own language specialism (Japanese) you could call it "Software Jiyuu" and achieve the same alienating effect. Beyond that point, as a complete no nothing on what "free software" is, I haven't got much to contribute, except to say that if you want "free software" to mean something other than software that doesn't cost anything you need to think of a different name, because the average person will not get past that meaning.
rhetoric versus definition
Two different ways of marketing the same concept is not the same as two different concepts, and is a natural result of taking an idea out of a small, sheltered group of "like-minded" people.
Surely, it is true that the FSF and the OSI are marketing free software differently (political ideology versus pragmatic economics), but this is largely a false dichotomy.
It's false, because, on the one hand, the people who promote in the ideological mode, by and large, do so because this is how they conceptualize their entire world. To them, the economic consequences of free licenses are manifestations of their ideology.
And on the other, those who promote the economic value of free licenses are generally those who maintain a belief in a moral imperative towards pragmatism. They have a worldview in which unpragmatic ideas are immoral, because they are unstable. From their PoV, promoting an unstable but otherwise apparently moral ideology is actually wrong, because it will lead to failure and that failure will lead to elimination of whatever good the ideology provided.
It's just two different ways of looking at the same problem.
Of course, things are politically much worse than this, because there are actually much more than just two ways to look at the problem.
There are in fact at least four major organizations or movements with differing worldviews which have a stake in this issue:
The Free Software Foundation is interested in ideology and social-engineering. They are ostensibly user-focused, but the actual constituency is overwhelmingly developers.
The Open Source Initiative is (or was, the site seems pretty under-maintained these days) interested in the practical marketing of the economics of free software specifically to developers and funding organizations. It could be argued that OSI is no longer really needed because they acheived their mission.
The Debian project is exclusively interested in end user freedoms. From their point of view, the FSF is perhaps too obsessed with copyleft.
The Creative Commons is interested primarily in non-program content (art, music, writing, etc), and are focused primarily on meeting the needs of creators (a position which has caused some major friction, due to their continued support for "non-free" licenses, such as the "non-commercial" module).
Then again, we can also mention the various BSD projects; in science and medicine, there is the concept of "Open Access"; and there is a slowly growing interest in "Open Hardware". Then there's the whole "Open Standards" movement, which even includes some proprietary software developers.
One of the reasons why I like the term "free licensing" or "free-licensed" rather than "free software" -- besides being much less ambiguous -- is that it applies to things other than software, such as "free-licensed hardware design" or "free-licensed artwork".
Thanks for the Tome
I would argue that "free licensing" and/or "free license" are oxymorons. I would argue, but I'm really really tired.
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"Open Source Licensing" - the book, definitions & philosophy
Lawrence Rosen has written an excellent book which describes software licensing. He lays out two branches of license, the Academic (BSD style) and the Reciprocal (GPL style).
The Academic license is a free gift, allowing all the freedoms we know and love, and allowing the freedom to keep modifications private (or secret...).
The Reciprocal license includes a requirement that modifications be openly published; you might say it is 'less free'. On the other hand, the GPL guarentees that improvements become freely available, that public knowledge continues to grow.
The difference really exists, and it really is a matter of personal (or corporate) philosophy.
And, if you are the original author, you have the freedom to choose which license to use.
Yes, copyleft is a real difference, but...
Yep, the copyleft issue is a real, substantive difference.
The trouble is, none of these terms actually split on this difference: both the Free Software Definition (which is usually what people regard as the definitive source for the meaning of "free software") and the Open Source Definition lump both cateogories into one.
You may also recognize the "Open Source Definition" as being closely related to the Debian Free Software Guidelines. One is derived from the other, though I forget which came first.
However, "copyleft" versus "non-copyleft" is a much more important distinction which actually says something about your values, whereas whether you use "free software" or "open source software" is pretty irrelevant -- at most it tells you what kind of mode you prefer to use in promoting the same idea.
And this is not an academic point. At this very moment, there is a standing debate between the Creative Commons, which is currently determined to maintain a copyleft defense against the new threat of TPM measures. However, Debian is now promoting an anti-copyleft stance, claiming that "user freedoms" trump the bad effects caused by TPM copyleft breakage (their "parallel distribution" proposal fails to repair the damage that TPM distribution would do to the copyleft -- IMHO this is sufficient to make it untenable, but many within Debian apparently disagree. Of course we won't really know what the "Debian Project" thinks, until they have a "GR" and vote on the issue).
And that's basically the point of the whole "copyleft" issue: which is more free? A license which preserves the freedom to innovate with a particular work indefinitely, or a license which allows the user all freedoms, including the freedom to destroy the freedom of the work?
(Just to make things more complicated, CC argues that it is reasonable to apply this copyleft measure even to CC-By, because, unlike copyright law, TPM can remove fair use/fair dealing privileges. So, they argue, even the CC-By license needs this provision).
I'm not going to try to tell you which is right (I have used and would recommend both approaches, depending on the circumstances), but deciding that says something real about your feelings and values.
The whole "free" versus "open source" thing is specious, though. It's like those Miller Lite beer ads: "Tastes great!", "Less filling!".
Which brings us back to beer analogies again, doesn't it? That's really too bad. I hate beer.
risky move... and SOMETHING ELSE
Initialy, my conclusion is that you are making a risky move by having this poll because, from my eye-glasses, it is widening the schism between the two main branches (or, would that be the trunk and its biggest branch?) of our dear movement, namely the "free software"-name philosophers and the "open source"-label pragmatists.
On second thought, this poll may provide an opportunity to unite the people in the two (or more) sets of the liberating movement universe, so here I vote for something else and propose
to be its name.
That's right: FRE is from "free" and OPE from "open." The new word can be a noun, a verb (and a participle), an adjective (FREOPY) and an adverb (FREOPILY).
If adopted, its simplified forms as future dictionary entries could be as follows:
- freope (vt) freoped; freoping [orig. from 'free' and 'open']
- to create a software product, book, artwork, design or other form of intellectual work that will allow others freedom to use it, look at its inner working mechanism or source, and modify it if possible--("When you go to college, learn how to ~ your programs properly."--JH)
- freope (n)
- a software product, book, artwork, design or other form of intellectual work allowing others freedom to use it, look at its inner working mechanism or source, and modify it if possible--("There are many good ~s out there."--JH)
- freopy (adj.)
- having the property of allowing others freedom to use it, look at its inner working mechanism or source, and modify it if possible: FREOPED--("Do they have ~ books in that new bookstore?"--JH)~~freopily (adv.)--("The scattered programmers are ~ busy enhancing the latest application."--JH)
Oh dear...
That's scary.
Of course, I always thought copyleft could be marketed as "stayfree", but of course, that's trademarked already. ;-)
Maybe "libertyware" could work?
The problem is, there's way too many people calling it "free software" and way more people calling it "open source software" already, so trying to market a new name for it is pretty much a lost cause, IMHO. Too many "old dogs".
"FREEDOPE" would probably bring far more hits.
Also, a lot of people in the Appalachians might think that "FREOPE" is a plea to Free Opey Taylor. Don't forget, many of them think that "TVLand" (nee "Nick at Night") is one of the "big three"
Which reminds me: Does anyone know when and why prime time TV went from ALL rural/country ("Gunsmoke", "Wagon Train", "The Rifleman", "Bat Masterson", "The Real McCoys", "Gomer Pyle", "Maverick", "The Andy Griffith Show", "Little House on the Prairie", "The Beverly Hillbillies", "Green Acres" et. al., suddenly morphed into allowing ONLY urban/metropolitan settings, i.e. "Friends", "Sex in the City", "Dharma and Greg", "Will and Grace", "Seinfeld", "Cheers", "NYPD Blue", "Just Shoot Me", "CSI/xxx", "Law and Order", "Hill Street Blues", "Streets of San Francisco", "Crazy About You, etc.?
By the way, is any of this giving anyone ideas for the elusive name for "Free Software" (sic)?
It made me really hungry. Later.
"If one gives up freedom to obtain security, they will end up with neither."
(Paraphrasing) Ben Franklin
As the head of a trademark research firm for fifteen years, I can tell you that "sanitary napkins" are never going to be confused with "software", nor would they be located near each other on the shelves, nor even probably ever co-exist in the same store. That is called "different avenues of trade". The goal of a trademark - and the measure of its worth - is whether or not it could confuse the consumer as to the origin of the goods. In this case, "stayfree" for "software" would probably fast track right through to registration with the PTO. Stayfree (the pad) might try to fight it, given that they probably have a lot of lawyers and money, but, as a former "expert witness" on the subject, I could almost guarantee it would go through, no sweat. Add a unique logo, and the "mark" would be even "stronger". Unique packaging, even better. I mean, do you think people would think that the origin of the Open Source or Free Software would be, say, Proctor and Gamble? I highly doubt it.
Do you think that somebody could remove or edit this intrusive "Backup Platinum" ad that covers a lot of the text on the screen?
"One who tries to have both security and freedom, will probably end up with neither."
Benjamin Franklin
Copyright means granting the right to copy. Copyleft is gibberish.
Mix it as you like.
That is:
"Free software" is free software.
"Open source" is open source.
Free software can be open source (or not).
Free software can be proprietary software.
Open source is typically free (sometimes with a string).
So, as an answer to the question about what free software should be called
I suggest you call it "Free Software".
Open source I suggest you call "Open Source".
Right now I belive the "Free Software" is loosing harts as it does not really
tell anything about how, and why it was born and produced.
But wait, there is this FOSS and FLOSS too. Newer mind the "L".
Hm, we also need FNOSS (Free but Not Open Software) and NOSFSS (Not Open SOURCE but Free Software).
Right now, I think "Open Source" is the word to use bye those who undertand about it and
also undertand that most people understand nothing about it.
Also understanding the fact that "Open" is a greater word than "Free" in this particular case where "Free" is more like something that happens once a week at such and such time
for such and such products.
"Free software can be open source (or not)."
"Free software can be open source (or not)."
Clearly you are rejecting the "Free Software Definition" when you say that, arguing that the term really should mean what we call "Freeware" (that is, freely downloadable in binary form, but without source, and possibly without modification rights, etc).
I won't say that's "wrong", because it makes English-language sense, and we're talking about labels here. Obviously, though, it was unintended.
I agree with you that "open source" is the label that has stuck, outside of the small world of the already-sold. And of course, it's not really a problem for those of us who already know what we're talking about to use multiple labels, because, well, we already know what we mean.
Free software can not be proprietary software.
Only to clarify it:
Free software can not be proprietary software.
"Free software" is a matter of liberty, not price. To understand the concept, you should think of "free" as in "free speech", not as in "free ice cream".
If your you have ocación, you can read this:
The Free Software Definition
I think you're missing the point
I think the person you were responding to is rejecting that definition because it's too obtuse. Sure, the FSF wants you to interpret "free software" that way; that's what they mean when they say it; but you can't co-opt the language that way—at least not easily.
To many people "free software" will continue to mean "software you can get for free". No amount of chanting the litany of Stallman will change that.
I think he's got a point. That's why the Open Source Initiative was started. All this claptrap about "different missions" and "ideology versus pragmatism" is mostly smoke thrown up by the FSF because they felt threatened, and because there were personal politics in the mix (Eric Raymond surely prefers the "pragmatic" approach, but it's not clear that that's what "Open Source" is "all about": to many people "openness" is as meaningful and evocative of ideals as "free" is).
"Open Source" is not and never has been a "separate movement" as Stallman likes to insist it is. It's just a marketing campaign. Distancing the "Free Software Movement" from the "Open Source Movement" is like distancing the "Nike Movement" from the "'Just Do It!' Movement".
The most appalling thing is that Stallman, when confronted with the fact that he had chosen a very confusing and misleading slogan for his ideology, instead of recognizing his error and taking steps to fix it, chose to blame the English language.
That's like me saying "French is stupid because 'parles' and 'parlent' are pronounced the same—so I'll just pronounce it differently anyway! Then I'll correct all those stupid French people!" (Not entirely made-up, I started learning French from a book, and had to unlearn this habit when I started taking classes! I knew I was wrong, but I did feel like saying that a few times).
Concepts have always transcended the boundaries created by words, that's what makes writing (and slogans and branding) so challenging and creative an exercise. In Japanese, for example, there are so many homonyms, it's amazing they ever manage to communicate, so you have to be extra careful (e.g. "shi" can mean both "four" and "death", and probably quite a few other things—such languages rely on "bound words" and formulaic phrases to add clarity in such situations. So does English on occasion).
Stallman's not the first person to get bitten by an ambiguous phrase. You've probably heard what happened when Chevy tried to market a car called (in America) "Nova" in Spanish-speaking countries, where the name means "doesn't go". Shall we blame Spanish for that ambiguity? Did Chevy blindly soldier on, "educating" Spanish-speaking customers of the meaning of the Latin word "Nova" and its modern usage in English? Or did they just change the name?
The coincidence between "free of cost" and "free of restrictions" is not so dumb in English, in my opinion: it conveys the very wise observation that cost is a restriction. Too often, I think the free software movement alienates people who know that by going ballastic whenever somebody talks about the advantages of software that doesn't cost anything. Dismissing the issue of cost is pretty alienating to anyone who's ever been deprived or disappointed because of it (and that's most of the world).
The truth is that as a matter of market reality, free software doesn't cost anything to acquire, and that is a major advantage of it. The fact that we want it to be free of both cost and restrictions is the real point. In practice, there are essentially no examples of software which is "free of restrictions" but "costs money to acquire". Companies who "charge for free software" aren't: they are either charging for the service of writing software or they are charging for the services of installation and support. Money-making in the world of free software is all about some kind of service, not software as a good. The license makes the latter illusion largely untenable.
For people in capital-poor situations, this is a major life-saver, because it means you have the option to substitute labor for capital (so-called "sweat capital"). In fact, free software provides major leverage for such people, because it makes that labor go a lot further than if they had to write everything from scratch. It's both the freedom and the openness of the software that makes that possible.
I have a lot of respect for Richard Stallman. He's done some amazing things: starting the GNU project, creating the GPL, and I respect the line he's taking with the GPLv3 (even on the days I'm not sure it's the right one). But it is infuriating to see him then make stupid mistakes, refuse to recognize that they are mistakes, and create major schisms and political situations over trivialities.
Stallman's impression of what "open source" means, versus what "free" means is terribly subjective (and from my point-of-view at least, quite inaccurate). Yet he states these opinions as if they were objective facts. That's the kind of thinking that gets you pigeon-holed into a tiny little community of "like-minded people" instead of being able to make contact and motivate people in the wider world. The real reason why "open source" has been so successful is because the people promoting it were simply willing to learn how to speak other people's language when communicating the concept, instead of pedantically offering to "correct" their "misuse of the language". Can you get more arrogant than that?
In my opinion, it's the idea of free software that matters. If the words "free software" convey that idea, then, great—use them. Inside of our community, they work fine, and people recognize them as jargon. Outside of that community, though, they are practically useless. You need to adjust your language if you want to be understood. And the only way that communities grow is by managing to communicate with the world outside of them.
Increasingly, that world is introduced to the idea as "open source software". So, it would behoove the "free software movement" if it wants to continue to have any relevance, to send the message that "free software" and "open source" software are two names for the same thing, instead of harping on the idea that they are names promoted by different groups of people.
It's a truly Liliputian argument!
Ok, I got lost the point, in my last response ...
Ok, I got lost the point, in my last response, I only wanted to clarify the concept, "that's what I mean when I say it". (I know, it was not necessary)
The term "free software" has an ambiguity problem.
The term "Open Source" has an ambiguity problem.
Sofware exists of which we can access to the source but it is not "Open Source",
so also we must explain the concept of Open Source. I believe that it is ok to have to explain the concept.
In the words of someone else:
I "prefer the term free software because, once you have heard it refers to freedom rather than price, it calls to mind freedom."
In order to avoid badly understood I would prefer the term "Libre Software".
You/ve got to be kidding
Right now, people are being slaughtered, raped and/or maimed in several places, for absolutely no apparent reason; our administration is bold-face lying to us on a daily business; the Iranian, North Korean and Venezuelan heads of state - two of whom are holding nuclear weapons or will have them soon - oh, and ALL or whom are dedicated to ours and Israel's destruction, along with millions upon millions of angry Islamists who are only waiting for the opening to commit genocide with us as the target.
And you have the time to devote to beating this topic to death? Your poll has been lopsided towards "Free Software" for days, so why not just declare a winner and move on?
"Free" is not "Open Source", and both have no clearcut definitions. So, I think they should both be avoided. That's my two cents.
On another topic - Any of you guys know about any hot jobs? I have the MCSE2000 and CISSP, plus 30 plus years of IT experience, but my head was chopped off with several of my colleagues in the great "purge" of 2003. I still read the trade rags, still "live" on my computer, still learning, but I'm 55, and believe me, it's a tough place to be. I'm also disabled, but that might actually work in my favor.
Wierd World.
Caemoth MacAlpin, of that ilk.
And there would be something
And there would be something wrong with freeing Palestine from Israeli occupation?
Please don't start on this topic
This is really the forum for discussing this topic. Please don't start!
And another face in the crowd is heard from.
I am glad you have an opinion, and that is all it can ever be - an opinion, because whether you and/or your supporting article make a case for your choice, it cannot be objective, but always subjective. As such, it will never be more than your opinion.


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Two Saint Vincent College students have been accepted to participate in the eighth national Catholic Social Teaching Symposium for college students sponsored by Archbishop Francis Chullikatt, Apostolic Nuncio of the Holy See to the United Nations and president of the Path to Peace Foundation. The students, nominated by the Saint Vincent College Office of Campus Ministry, are Thomas C. Mengers, a junior theology major with a minor in criminology, law and society, from Claymont, Delaware, and Sarah Riffon, a freshman psychology and theology major from Westover, West Virginia. The seminar will be held from May 19 to 24 at the Bishop Molloy Passionist Retreat House in the Jamaica Estates neighborhood of Queens, New York City. "This unique experience offers students an introduction to the social teaching of the church in general and the work of the Holy See at the United Nations in particular," Archbishop Chullikatt said. "Participants will have an opportunity to visit the UN and meet ambassadors and experts in international affairs." This year's seminar will focus on the 50th anniversary of the publication of the Encyclical Letter Pacem in Terris by Blessed John XXIII. The issues identified in that Encyclical continue to be issues which engage the church and the world. Mengers, 21, son of David and Patti Mengers of Claymont, is a 2010 graduate of Archmere Academy. He has been active in student government for three years as a residence hall representative and class senator, campus ministry and service learning projects including Habitat for Humanity. His home parish is Immaculate Heart of Mary in Wilmington. Riffon, 18, is the daughter of Thomas and Tracy Riffon of Westover and a 2012 graduate of University High School in Morgantown. She has been active at Saint Vincent in campus ministry and its advisory council, Respect Life Club, Big Sisters and the orientation committee. She was previously active in the Diocesan Youth Board and the Diocesan Charismatic Service Committee. The Path to Peace Foundation was established in 1991 for the purpose of spreading the message of peace by which the Catholic church, through the words and activities of the Pope and of the Holy See, strives to "guide our steps into the path of peace." The foundation, which serves to extend the scope and reach of the Permanent Observer Mission of the Holy See to the United Nations, primarily directs its activities to the international stage of the United Nations, sponsoring lectures, panel discussions, movie screenings and other informational events.
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TAHOE/TRUCKEE, Calif. - I've been frustrated when the community has called our school board to address the overwhelmed, angry, depressed, and suicidal young ones with in our schools. I see them concerned enough to hold public forums, seminars, presentations, open the High School Wellness Center, have systems in place to help our children when we see any reason for alarm, and they and other local organizations have graciously paid for it all.
Yet we are fooled to think we can ignore the spiritual well being of our students to treat the symptoms of a much deeper issue: Their spirituality is suffering. The family, schools, and community can do a better job in nurturing a well-balanced child or teen. We can't afford to try to separate the student's spiritual self from the emotional and physical self.
I know many people in our community who would support spiritual development, through the teaching of values, virtues, and character than those few who would oppose it because it is too assuming to think everyone has a spirit or soul. It may be offensive perhaps illegal to bring such a program to our public schools. Have we become fearful of being "too American?" Or think we may offend an atheist or agnostic to the point where we must submit to their intolerance of the very beliefs this nation was founded?
We can be the change by acknowledging and embracing we are all imperfect. Let's begin by developing communities, whether it be family, church, school, team, or organizations where to advise, control, lecture, judge and protect are not always as welcomed as the sharing of experiences of failure, doubt, fear or mistrust. Through examining the heart, we can be free to open and nurture the soul.-
I like it when I am able to share my secrets of imperfections with others.- It's risky, but opens the door of trust. Would it be okay to define and give examples of this word in the classroom? Is this not spiritual development?- Can it lead to examining other words like honor, awareness, integrity, humility, and love?
The goal I think would be to share with such heart as to provide the ultimate safe space to embrace our imperfections and mistakes so to learn and grow from them emotionally, spiritually and socially. It would be more beneficial to our children, families, and communities if we had banners around Truckee which read, "In God We Trust," "God Blesses America and You," or "Talk With, Not To Your Children."
The questions we can ask ourselves are: "How badly do we want our children to be spiritually and emotionally fit to live life abundantly?," "Do we believe in something bigger than ourselves, and if so, can we compassionately put our constitutional right to express our spirituality in public?"


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I also wanted to chip in on some other garbage I noticed in my 5 minutes of browsing the forums.. You guys are seriously dogging Franzen? Do you guys even watch other games besides the Wings? You do know unless you sacrifice all your depth, defense, goal-tending you just can't have four 80 point players now days? Look how good that has worked out for teams. Franzen is our 3rd/4th forward, and he is a very good one. Bottom line, enough said, that's a fact. Look it up. What do you expect Crosby and Ovechkin to fill out 3rd and 4th forward position? Get real you none appreciative clowns.
Oh our team this year isn't Stanly Cup caliber?? How so? Because we lost a few games past couple weeks? You do realize we are one of the top teams in the league and have been all season right? We don't have as much talent you say?? Hmm weird, we have pretty much the same players as we had last Stanley cup final appearance.. Except for all of our depth is even better today than it was then. All of our bottom forwards, Kronwall is playing like a top defensemen in the entire league. Get real guys and appreciate this great team we have. Not good enough for ya I'm sure ya can go find a better franchise than Detroit to follow. Wait, there isn't one.
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