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February 18, 2013, 01:54 PM
What are your experiences with revolvers chambered for 45acp? What are the pros and cons? What manufacturer / model do you prefer best?
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February 18, 2013, 02:12 PM
S&W 25 or 625 is the only ones I would even consider.
I love my 625-6 Mountain Gun!!
Pros? = Whats not to like!
Cons? = There aren't any.
February 18, 2013, 02:33 PM
Here's an old S&W 1917 thst was already cut down and sight installed that I found at a gun show. It had almost no bluing, but had a tight lock up, and a slightly dark bore. I sent it off for a a slight trigger job, and matte blueing. I textured and rounded some Ahrends cocobolo grips, and it is a fine carrying or bedside gun. You don't have to go expensive if you shop the used market. .................. http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m247/matquig/DSC06327.jpg
February 18, 2013, 02:49 PM
^ beautiful
45 in a wheel gun is a great find.
February 18, 2013, 02:52 PM
I have a full size 1911 as well as a S&W 625-8 Revolver in ..45 ACP
The 625 is enjoyable to shoot - I prepare prior to the range by loadig
u the full moon clips. after the range session I'll demoon the spent
cases with a demooner tool as I watch TV. With the revolver it's
empty weight is 45 oz so it soaks up the moderate recoil
The M1917 S&W was used by the doughboys using half moon clips
after WWI the M1917s found their way into civilian hands. Remington
Peters created the .45 Auto Rim cartrdge hich has a normal rim like
45 Colt, 44 SPcial etc. except it's exttra thick to correctly headspace
and no moon clips required.
Other S&W .45 ACP Revovlers include
M1917 - 1917 until the late '40s
1950 Target
1950 Army
1955 Target aka Model 25
625 stainless steel - 1902 to present
& S&W offers current models that resemble the
1950 Target & Army as
the Model 21 and Model of 1917
then there's the scandium framed
MOdel 3245 PD/Thunder Ranch
Also the Ruger Blackhawk in 45 Colt - Ruger
offers a Conbertible cylinder in 45 ACP
February 18, 2013, 03:43 PM
I like the S&W 22-4. Pre load your moonclips before the range trip. Then have fun shooting im up. :)
February 18, 2013, 04:10 PM
My S&W Model 1955 Target (25-2) is one of my favorite revolvers. Beautifully finished, fine workmanship and superbly accurate with a first-rate trigger; they just don't make them like this anymore and, sadly, probably never will.
Vern Humphrey
February 18, 2013, 04:19 PM
I used to have a Colt M1917 -- a really nice revolver. Currently I have a Colt New Service in .45 Colt. Overall, in a Revolver, I prefer .45 Colt.
February 18, 2013, 04:31 PM
Here is a Ruger Single action Vaquero in 45 ACP...
February 18, 2013, 04:50 PM
CTGunner: I have an old 45LC / 45ACP Ruger Blackhawk Convertible 7.5 inch barrel, that I bought in 1971. I have used this old gun with the 45ACP cylinder to do just about any thing you could ask a Revolver to do. From shooting targets both steel and paper, plinking along the river, to hunting both small game and just about every varmint you can think of. Even a few Coyotes and a Pig. 25 to 50 yd shot is not a real problem, if I do my part. My Ruger is like an old friend to me, very accurate, very little recoil, and very easy to shoot. I can`t ask for any thing more. Good Luck To You:
February 18, 2013, 05:21 PM
What are your experiences with revolvers chambered for 45acp? What are the pros and cons? What manufacturer / model do you prefer best?
I have a couple S&W revolvers in 45 ACP. One of them is a 625 that I have used in USPSA revolver class competitions.
Pros are that with moon clips the 45 ACP is the fastest revolver there is to reload. Recoil is also very mild.
Cons are that you are shooting a pretty wimpy round out of that big of a gun. In the same size you could get an eight shot 357 or a six shot 44 Magnum. And of course having to use moon clips is both a pro and a con depending on how you look at it.
February 18, 2013, 05:57 PM
Buffalo Bore .45 ACP / .45 AUto Rim heavy loads
as well as .45 Super
February 18, 2013, 06:35 PM
I just bought a Lipsey's Ruger Flattop in 45 Colt/45 ACP. Can't wait for it to arrive and will be a good mate for my Flattop 44 Special.
February 18, 2013, 06:47 PM
S&W model 25 or 625 is an excellent 45 ACP/Auto Rim revolver. Accuracy is supurb and all that I have owned came with a great trigger right out of the box.
Deaf Smith
February 18, 2013, 07:23 PM
What is there to think about?
February 18, 2013, 08:23 PM
When you get down to it .45 ACP makes more sense than either .44 Special or .45 Colt in most applications particularly if store bought ammo is prefered.
My experience includes the S&W 25-2, 1917; Colt New Service 1917 and several modified military models.
A caution: do not use factory .45 ACP in a shaved Webley.
February 18, 2013, 09:04 PM
My S&W 1917, Colt 1917, and shaved Webley are my favorite range guns. They all happily digest my favorite .45ACP target load.
February 18, 2013, 09:22 PM
This 1917 is cool, and fun,
but this 1955 Target is awesome.
I foolishly sold a 625-4.
February 18, 2013, 10:22 PM
Ruger Blackhawk with 45ACP and 45Colt cylinders.
Love mine and it gets an equal amount of both through it.
The 45Colt is a little more accurate than the 45ACP but at 25 yds everything is in the black shooting off hand.
Another big plus is the Blackhawk frame and cylinder are heavy enough to handle some hefty loads.
Ruger gets top marks from me for this combo!
February 18, 2013, 11:00 PM
They're awesome. My first 1917 S&W was the most accurate handgun I've ever owned. I now have my eye open for an (affordable) 625 5" - which for me is the perfect bbl length.
February 18, 2013, 11:12 PM
325PD and a 625 Performance Center. The 325PD is on my belt more often then any other, and I have a few to choose from. I segregate my 45 ACP brass, with the autos getting large primer, and the wheelies getting small. Same load for both, though.
February 18, 2013, 11:13 PM
Did someone say "what's not to like" about the S&W 45 ACP revolvers or Colt 1917's?
I like my 625JM and I just got a Model 22 Classic. They are fun to shoot.
I will probably add a S&W 1917 to my list of "wants".
February 18, 2013, 11:31 PM
I own six of them:
S&W Model of 1917
Colt New Service Model of 1917
S&W Model 25-2
S&W Model 325NG
S&W Model 625-3
S&W Model 22-4
S&W Model 22-4, Model of 1917
I still haven't decided which of them I like the best. They're all fun to shoot, and I carry the 325NG concealed.
The newest is the S&W Model of 1917. I got it Saturday at a local show, and started wringing it out today. It locks up nearly as tight as my Python.
February 19, 2013, 06:42 AM
I owned an Old Model Ruger Blackhawk convertible and never shoot the ACP cylinder and eventually swapped it off to Alan Harton in trade for labor. I do shoot a Smith 25-2 primarily with AR brass and a 255 gr SWC (as cast by MBW). It is a fine piece, easy to shoot and exceedingly accurate. Just a fun gun to shoot.
February 19, 2013, 11:43 AM
S&W 25 or 625 is the only ones I would even consider.
I love my 625-6 Mountain Gun!!
Pros? = Whats not to like!
Cons? = There aren't any.
What RC said!
February 19, 2013, 12:02 PM
What are your experiences with revolvers chambered for 45acp? What are the pros and cons? What manufacturer / model do you prefer best?
I love my M-625. It started out with a 5" heavy barrel. I swapped out the 5" barrel with a 4" Mountain Gun barrel. It is much easier to pack around now.....
February 19, 2013, 12:14 PM
I had a 6 1/2" barreled M25-2 for nearly a decade and was looking for a 4" iteration of some sort. Never could find it so I took a M28-2 that was sitting unused and reworked it to handle the 45 ACP cartridge. Here they are.
The 4" barreled revolver is used daily, the target revolver get used at the range. Both are used with ACP in moonclips or AR brass. I load cast lead only, 235 full wadcutter, 245 grain SWC, 260 SWC and 280 SWC. The full WC and the 260 SWC seem to be the ideal for them.
February 19, 2013, 12:27 PM
I've had several over the years. A coupla 1955 Targets, a 1917 Smith and a 1917 Colt. I lucked on to a used Model 22-4, 4" last week. I like 'em!
February 19, 2013, 12:52 PM
I have a couple of 625's. They dominate the revolver action shooting games they are allowed in. Very fast to reload and very simple to retrieve all your brass back. Mooning/demoon can be a pain if you don't have the right tools but if you use 45GAP brass they moon/demoon by hand and the small primers allow for better trigger pull with 100% ignition.
Here is a video of a tool I built for them. The mouth of the feed tube is cut so it will demoon also.
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o213/jmorrismetal/th_mooner.jpg (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o213/jmorrismetal/mooner.mp4)
Coal Dragger
February 19, 2013, 03:31 PM
Can't speak for the double action .45ACP revovlers, but I love the spare cylinder in .45ACP that I had made for my Freedom Arms .454 Casull.
February 19, 2013, 03:57 PM
What are your experiences with revolvers chambered for 45acp? What are the pros and cons? What manufacturer / model do you prefer best?
I bought a 5-1/2" blackhawk convert for deer hunting and plinking, the .45acp has been a joy to shoot and now I'm going to look for a .45acp in a barrel of 3-4" instead of another semi-auto.
February 20, 2013, 12:04 PM
For me.
.45 compatibility with my many semi-autos
.45 is a very easy and an "all things known" reload
Loves me some moon clip reloading
Shoots like black powder pistols
Moon clips unless you get something chambered like a Smith 1917
Most of them waste a lot of frame dimension and weight on the "downpowered" cartridge
February 20, 2013, 01:56 PM
A 1915 vintage .455 HE with a .45ACP/AR Cylinder and 6 1/2" barrel makes a purty good plinkin' gun.
February 20, 2013, 02:29 PM
Except I'll quibble with his closing comment.
A .45 ACP revolver is 'down powered' only when compared to the same size revolver in .44 Magnum or Special.
However, for a reloader, the .45 ACP/.45 AutoRim round can be loaded with a 255 grain wadcutter to a fairly authoritative level. Some 'old guys' have killed deer regularly with them.
I have a 1917 S&W (cut down) and a 1955 Target model and I'm rather fond of both.
Dave T
February 20, 2013, 02:35 PM
The 45 ACP being tied as my favorite revolver cartridge (38/44 being the other) I almost had to post a few pictures (smile).
My oldest 45 ACP revolver is this customized 1917:
The plastic stocks have since been replaced by a set of ram's horn stocks by Grashorn Gunworks. It has a 3-3/8" barrel and a hard chrome finish.
Next in age is a Model of 1955:
That barrel has been cut to 5", the ramp and front sight are pinned just like the original. Stocks are early, hand checkered Harrett Shooting Stars.
Smith & Wesson made some of their Mountain Guns in 45 ACP but only in stainless (625s). I wanted a blue steel version like this:
It's a M25-2 that has a shortened Model of 1950 tapered barrel. Like the factory MGs this one has a round butt and a matt finish. It's one of my favorites.
Finally, one of the early 625-2 with the full lug 5" barrel.
Bought this used with a bad case of push off. A new main spring from Brownells ended the push off and delivered a reliable but very smooth DA trigger pull.
Pre loading a couple hundred rounds of moon clips in my shop makes any trip to the range a delight as no other revolver reloads as quickly or smoothly as a 45 ACP fed full moons.
February 20, 2013, 02:48 PM
For just range plinking without the pain of moonclips, I have had good success with the Rimz EZ-Moon plastic moon clips.
You can load & unload them with just your fingers easily.
They are not nearly as durable and drop-proof as steel clips.
But it doesn't take a mooner & a de-mooner tool to get the cases in & out of them either.
highlander 5
February 20, 2013, 03:03 PM
I've 2 model 625s and when freinds have asked to go to the range with me I bring an assortment of revolvers and semi autos and almost everyone has fallen in love them.
Easy to shoot recoil wise and very accurate. I bring an assortment of 45 ACP and 45 Auto rim ammo loaded to standard velocities and have had no complaints on recoil. A friend that's waiting on his LTC is going to look for a used 625 once his permit is in.
February 20, 2013, 03:12 PM
For just range plinking without the pain of moonclips, I have had good success with the Rimz EZ-Moon plastic moon clips.
You can load & unload them with just your fingers easily.
They are not nearly as durable and drop-proof as steel clips.
But it doesn't take a mooner & a de-mooner tool to get the cases in & out of them either.
+1000 for the RIMZ. Made the experience of shooting moon clipped 45 Auto so much more enjoyable for me.
February 20, 2013, 03:53 PM
The only one I have is a 625JM. I did an action job, replaced the springs and installed an extended firing pin. Its a super-nice shooting gun.
I only fire it DA. Don't think I've ever fired it SA.
Yesterday at the range, I fired 2 moon clips at 20 yards DA, about one second per shot and got this group. It would be 2 ¾ if it wasnt for the flyer that opened it up to 3 ¾
February 20, 2013, 03:58 PM
1955 target
blackhawk in 45 acp
February 20, 2013, 04:19 PM
I guess you can say I like S&W 45 ACP revolvers.
I have another 3" M625 that did not make this picture.
February 20, 2013, 04:30 PM
Everytime it seems like I can finally buy a .45 ACP Revolver something comes up. A deal I can't turn down, my wedding that I have to pay for, etc. etc. etc..
I finally settled on waiting till I can find another .454 Casull Ruger Redhawk for less than $700.00 with a 7.5" barrel and having cut for .45 ACP. I know someone who did this to theirs, and i have an uncut one (it's my full time .454 Casull shooter), and it shoots like a dream out to twenty five yards. I fired six shots and thought I had somehow missed twice as I was winding it back up to find I had double punched inside a three inch grouping. Not amazing shooting but good plinking. I've tried to get my friend out to an open air range so I can try it at fifty yards.
In the massive frame it has as much recoil as .38 special in a Model 15. Just a sweet straight shooter.
February 20, 2013, 04:41 PM
The Rimz clips are great for plinking, but do NOT shoot CCI shotshells with them. The plastic clips will allow the fired case to jam up against the recoil shield and you'll have a heck of a time getting the second shot off or even getting the cylinder open! The shotshells work fine with the metal moon clips.
fbks ak
February 20, 2013, 08:04 PM
Ruger Blackhawk in 45 colt with extra 45acp is fantastic.......Tom
February 20, 2013, 08:20 PM
Did that Charter Arms CARR (rimless revolver) ever come out in .45ACP?
February 20, 2013, 09:01 PM
Here's the last revolver I'll ever sell . . .
I've had both 625-3 (Model of 1989) and 25-2 (Model of 1955) .45ACP revolvers. Incredibly accurate and fun to shoot!!!
My favorite though started out in the early '80s as a stock, 6 1/2" barreled 25-2 target revolver. Back then, Smith lacked the wisdom of producing this fine gun with a short barrel for self-defense so quite a few folks converted them.
Mine was chopped by, a long-deceased gunsmith in Savannah, to a barrel length of 3 1/4". It has the best single AND double action trigger jobs I've ever experienced. It is extremely fast from the holster, and exhibits perfect balance and recovery times when shooting fast, double action competitions. It has superb accuracy, and also reloads as fast (for me) as I can my 1911 pistols!
Yep, this moon-clipped revolver is THE perfect fighting revolver, IMHO!
February 20, 2013, 11:20 PM
I have 2. A 625-2 model of 1989 and a 22-4. Love them both. I have to get some decent pictures of them. A 25-2 is one of my grail guns.
February 20, 2013, 11:47 PM
I have an S&W Army Model 4" in acp and a 1955 Target but to tell you the truth they have been less than stellar accurate in the 30+ years I've owned them. So 15 years back I took a sound old 1917 Colt and sent it to Cylinder and Slide where they put on a Douglas Air guaged bull barrel , fabricated a shrouded ball detent front lock up, installed gold front sight sighted in at 25 yards with Ball ammo, action blue print ect. and then it went to Colt for minimal Bank Note engraving and a Royal Blue, then back to Roy Fishpaw for exhibition French walnut grips. The gun will do 2" groups with the right match wadcutters at 50 yards from bags, but I can't anymore.
Driftwood Johnson
February 21, 2013, 08:03 AM
Way back in 1975 I bought this Blackhawk brand, spanky new. It came with the extra 45 ACP cylinder. Frankly, I was not interested in the extra cylinder, I only wanted to shoot 45 Colt. But the gun came with the cylinder, so I still have it. Frankly, I went many years before putting any ACP rounds through the gun, and still prefer to shoot it with 45 Colt. But no, the extra cylinder is not for sale.
I have had this pair of S&W Brazilian contract 1917s for quite some time now. I actually prefer to shoot them with 45 Auto Rim instead of 45 ACP. I don't much like messing with moon clips. S&W 1917s headspace on the case mouth, so they can be fired without the clips, but in order to use the extractor one has to use the clips. Without the clips the empties have to be poked out with a stick. That's why I prefer the 45AR cartridge. No clips nor stick needed.
I found this nice Model 1917 last year. It was made in 1918. It came with an almost full box of ammo made the same time the revolver was made. No, I'm not going to shoot up that ammo, I collect old ammo, so it was a nice extra. I also prefer to shoot this one with 45 AR.
February 21, 2013, 11:02 AM
In the July/August 2011 American Handgunner Mike Venturino has an article where he calls the .45ACP "The Best Ever Revolver Cartridge". He makes some very good points.
By the way, I'm a big fan of S&Wfan's chopped 25-2 target revolver. That is one cool revolver.
February 21, 2013, 09:26 PM
This thread needs a pre-26 Model of 1950 Target. This one is a '52 vintage.
I don't believe there are any cons to a .45ACP wheelgun. The con of this one is that I've been lusting after a suitable 1955 Target for a safemate since I got it.:rolleyes:
Got ammo? IMO mooning/demooning ain't no thang. ;)
February 22, 2013, 11:52 AM
625JM, funnest gun I own. I think I need a model 22 and a 25.
February 22, 2013, 12:03 PM
Here's the last revolver I'll ever sell . . .
Back then, Smith lacked the wisdom of producing this fine gun with a short barrel for self-defense so quite a few folks converted them...
S&Wfan, you and I were thinking along the same lines, I was able to get my barrel reworked so it is a skiiny 4" barrel. Great revolver!
The stag grips and filler look good. Maybe I need to change mine.
February 22, 2013, 07:15 PM
That Colt is beautiful! I grumble to this day over letting my Dad talk me out of buying a US Post Office when I was in college. I had visions of "Fitz Specials" when I saw it already bobed adn front sightless. But it was not to be.
Big Plus to all on the Ruger Blackhawk Pervertables in .45 ACP and S&W 1917s, I like them a bunch.
February 23, 2013, 01:49 PM
I'm real fond of my old S&W M1917. Load the moonclips before going to the range and you're in a for a good time. :)
Billy Shears
February 23, 2013, 02:12 PM
Sorry I can't post pictures (no way to host them), but I've got a Bubba'd S&W 1917 that I use as a house gun. I picked it up dirt cheap, since it had been altered. The barrel has been cut down to 3 1/2 inches, and the front sight base from a sporting rifle installed, which was actually pretty clever, since it covers the chopped off roll marked text on the top of the barrel. The downside is that this necessitated the rear sight being raised, and Bubba accomplished this by welding a flat, notched piece of steel in place on the rear of the frame. What I can't figure is that, since all the modifications on this piece seemed clearly intended to produce a compact, carry gun, Bubba chose to install a hooked target sight on the front, guaranteed to catch clothing on a draw. (I only use this as a house gun, where it's not much of handicap, but I mean to change this out.) Finally, Bubba removed the lanyard ring, and ground off the slight flare at the heel of the grip. That's bad enough, but what he did next truly hurts me in my soul. He installed a non-original set of factory target stocks, cut off the bottom, so it would be flush with the frame, and sanded away the flare at the heel, so it would fit flush with the now ground down frame. But these weren't just any S&W target grips, these were coke bottle grips! :eek::what::banghead::cuss::fire:
Those things, unaltered, would be worth almost the price of a brand new S&W bodyguard revolver today. If I knew who was responsible for these modifications, I would have his kneecaps broken.
But, it was in this condition that I found the gun, and as the price was less than $100, I picked it up. It functions well. Despite the shortened barrel and frame, and (once the sight's replaced), it's suitability as a carry gun, I won't carry it. I prefer autos for carry, and the one thing about the .45ACP revolver that bothers me as a carry gun is the moon clips. They are thin sheet metal, and liable to be bent when carried. If that happens, they can tie up the cylinder rotation.
February 23, 2013, 09:54 PM
Billy Shears, I have been carrying full moon clips for nearly thiry years. Never bent one yet while carrying. I have bent them when they were empty and I stepped on them.
February 23, 2013, 10:48 PM
So, are you saying that they CAN'T get bent, won't ever get bent, or your experience is unique, and they COULD get bent and rendered unserviceable at the most inopportune moment? I'm glad yours never got bent. I have had one get SLIGHTLY bent while in a pocket, and when loaded, the cylinder would not turn. Had to set that one aside until I could flatten it. They now make nice carriers that would probably keep them protected.
February 24, 2013, 07:19 AM
Anything can happen, I was merely relating my experience. Others may not have been so fortunate. I have repaired three revolvers where the owner had somehow bent the barrel. For some, that is not an issue, but obviously for those three fellows it was a problem. It just isn't a common problem.
February 24, 2013, 03:38 PM
Way back about 1960 I bought a S&W mod 1955 and still have it, Its' a very fine gun and I intend to keep it in spite of the offers I get. I paid the outrageous sum of $55.00. Should have bought a dozen.
February 24, 2013, 10:29 PM
Well, honestly (I get into trouble because a lot of people don't really desire or appreciate honesty) the 45 ACP in a revolver isn't the greatest think since sliced bread. Now, if the guns were scaled down in size to match the stubby ammo, it might be a different story. But they are always large frame revolvers with cylinders way too long making the gun big and heavy for the power output.
Now, having said that, I confess to having a couple of these fairly useless things.
The only thing that most guys find really handy about the 45 ACP wheelguns is the ability to use moon clips for very fast reloading. But from a ballistic standpoint, the 45 Colt makes far more sense in a revolver.
February 25, 2013, 03:28 PM
Saxon Pig, I reload for both the ACP and the long Colt in N frames. When handloading, the ballistics are pretty close.
Vern Humphrey
February 25, 2013, 03:35 PM
My favorite .45 Colt load drives a 255 grain cast bullet to around 1,000 fps. No way I'd try that in any of my .45 ACP automatics.
February 25, 2013, 10:54 PM
Vern, I agree, no way for a self loader. But in an N frame, no problem.
February 25, 2013, 11:03 PM
I guess another picture won't hurt...
...and a sharp eye will reveal this one is not exactly 'factory'.
February 26, 2013, 12:37 AM
Saxon Pig, I reload for both the ACP and the long Colt in N frames. When handloading, the ballistics are pretty close.
I am having a hard time believing this...
February 26, 2013, 12:53 AM
SAAMI standard pressure for the .45 Colt is 14,000 PSI.
It is 23,000 for the .45 ACP +P.
In a S&W N-Frame revolver, both calibers are limited to about 23,000 PSI.
SO, either one can be loaded to the same pressure, and nearly the same velocity.
Yes, you can't do it in a 1911 pistol.
But you can't shoot .45 Colt in a 1911 pistol.
Older Speer data shows Max loads as follows:
.45 Colt in a Colt SAA.
240 grain LSWC = 822 FPS.
Same bullet in a .45 AR case in a 1950 S&W Target = 1,192 FPS.
February 26, 2013, 08:00 AM
Smith & Wesson for me.
I have a 25-2 (S-prefix) and a MIM lock mod. 22. Both are shooters and have had no issues with either (after slicking up the MIM gun).
February 26, 2013, 04:38 PM
Loading your own can bring the ACP close to the Colt, but not quite equal. Still the problem with too much gun for the cartridge.
I'm not saying the 45 ACP revolvers are bad, note that I two of them, but I understand their limitations and recognize that they are not anything mystical.
February 26, 2013, 07:52 PM
I think they're absolutely useless, so you should all send yours to me for proper disposal. :D
My 2011 Ruger Blackhawk .45 Convertible is my first .45 ACP revolver.
One thing I like about it, is I can load it with a round ball and a tiny powder charge, for cheap plinking.
That, and, it's chambered for .45 Colt AND .45 ACP. What's not to like about that?
February 27, 2013, 09:18 AM
This thread has some of the classiest wheelguns I have EVER seen....
February 27, 2013, 11:06 AM
I have had a S&W 1955 Target revolver since the 60's. It is still my number one house gun loaded with Hornady 230 grain +P. Back in the day I kept it loaded with hardball as that was all we could get. Then Super Vel came out with their 190 grain JHP. A 250 grain hardcast AR loaded to 950 is a darn good woods walking load as well. A also have a 4 5/8 inch Ruger convertable. I like the fact that I can run any load from light ACP target loads right on up to a 325 grain heavy 45 Colt hardcast. At 36 ounces carried in a Simply Rugged Pancake holster the Ruger is hard to beat as a hiking gun.
February 27, 2013, 02:05 PM
Loading your own can bring the ACP close to the Colt, but not quite equal. Still the problem with too much gun for the cartridge.
One COULD just go ahead & drop the Big One!:eek:
February 27, 2013, 04:12 PM
My shooting buddy just got himself a 625 PC. Thowing impartiality out the door, I would never trade my 627PC for it. The fit and finish out of the last 2 Smiths I have handled, a 610 for my fathers bday gift and the 625 both left alot to be desired. Neither were polished. The 610 I got what I expected, but the 625 has a heavy pull for a PC gun. Smooth but questionably heavy. Maybe it has differnt geometry than a 27? The 625 is more accurate than either of us can shoot.
February 27, 2013, 07:01 PM
and recognize that they are not anything mystical.
Maybe not for you, but when used in the venue it was intended for, some of my very best scores shot in the .45 phase in Bullseye matches were done with my big Model 1955 Target revolver, with its magical trigger pull and fine sights. Mystical for me, indeed.
February 28, 2013, 02:47 PM
625 5" great shooter, accurate and fun to shoot. Have several 1911s and same loads are much lower recoil in my 625.
February 28, 2013, 02:54 PM
I understand the 45acp in a revolver for match shooting. That is where my understanding stops. Why handicap yourself? Obviously gaming with a 625 and a ton of moon clips is awesome, but for ANY other application it is not my first pic. The 357 and 44 are IMHO the king of the revolver calibers. Shooting specials in 38 and 44 for targets and magnums for hunting and defense makes sense. If I want to get the full potential from a 45acp for a carry gun or defensive pistol it would be better served in a 1911 or one of the many polymer framed semi-autos ou there.
Peter M. Eick
February 28, 2013, 03:41 PM
"Stupidly accurate"
50 shots, 15 yrds, offhand.
February 28, 2013, 08:09 PM
That about speaks for itself right there.
February 28, 2013, 08:40 PM
I never thought this would materialize to such a popular thread.
February 28, 2013, 08:50 PM
So, find yourself looking for one yet?
February 28, 2013, 08:57 PM
I am. Locally what I have found is the Jerry M model. Its nice but I need to keep looking. I just sold an AR so I have some money to work with.
February 28, 2013, 10:16 PM
.45 ACP revolvers are just big, stupid, fun. I like ALL big, accurate, big bore revolvers.
March 1, 2013, 11:15 AM
I understand the 45acp in a revolver for match shooting. That is where my understanding stops. Why handicap yourself? Obviously gaming with a 625 and a ton of moon clips is awesome, but for ANY other application it is not my first pic. The 357 and 44 are IMHO the king of the revolver calibers. Shooting specials in 38 and 44 for targets and magnums for hunting and defense makes sense. If I want to get the full potential from a 45acp for a carry gun or defensive pistol it would be better served in a 1911 or one of the many polymer framed semi-autos ou there.
mnhntr, some of us do not feel handicapped with either a revolver or the 45 ACP cartridge. For most hunting, a 260 grain lead bullet at +/- 950 fps is a perfectly fine combination. Or a 280 grain lead bullet at about the same speed. More weight or more velocity gives more recoil and not much else. Both loads mentioned are easily achieved and usually give good accuracy. I was a big fan of the 44 Magnum, until I saw how the 45 long Colt did with black powder. Now, I try to duplicate the ballistics of the long Colt load, and the results have been consistently good. For defense loads, that 260 grain bullet is pretty good also.
Gary A
March 1, 2013, 11:31 AM
Not to veer too far from the main flow of this thread but, to me the 45 acp is a wonderful revolver cartridge. Just a great blend of size and power, at least for my purposes. I once had a couple of 625s that I let get away and when I went back to 45 acp revolvers this time, I have focused on Blackhawks and Vaqueros (convertibles). A Blackhawk is something like half the cost of a new 625 and is a great shooter. (And, it doesn't depend on moon clips, if that matters.) I like single actions best of all, anyway. I even have a couple (stainless and blued) of the limited run Birdshead New Vaqueros chambered solely in 45 acp.
Makes me happy. :)
March 1, 2013, 03:26 PM
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March 1, 2013, 04:06 PM
Please do not take this the wrong way. I carry a 45acp as a daily carry and own quite a few revolvers. I also carry a revolver (LCR) as a bug or in hot weather clothes. I only say what I said because I believe in using the right tool for the job and not making something work. The 45acp in a wheel gun is big and heavy and impractical for carry. It is the best choice for competition in the revolver divisions of practical shooting groups. It is not the BEST choice for hunting. Will it work? Yes it will work fine but is not the better choice. To each his own but I feel there are better choices for hunting or carry.mnhntr, some of us do not feel handicapped with either a revolver or the 45 ACP cartridge. For most hunting, a 260 grain lead bullet at +/- 950 fps is a perfectly fine combination. Or a 280 grain lead bullet at about the same speed. More weight or more velocity gives more recoil and not much else. Both loads mentioned are easily achieved and usually give good accuracy. I was a big fan of the 44 Magnum, until I saw how the 45 long Colt did with black powder. Now, I try to duplicate the ballistics of the long Colt load, and the results have been consistently good. For defense loads, that 260 grain bullet is pretty good also.
Gary A
March 1, 2013, 04:25 PM
I feel there are better choices for hunting or carry.
I think that is no doubt true. Maybe no better choices for fun, though ;).
March 1, 2013, 05:12 PM
Maybe no better choices for fun, though
And I think "that is no doubt true".
March 1, 2013, 05:46 PM
My 5" 625 .45acp, decked out for some match fun. As fun as it is, though, my speedloader-fed L-frame sees much more use.
March 1, 2013, 06:24 PM
My 25-2 is the absolutely perfect complement to my 14-4. For my money, there's no better balanced, better shooting, or better looking pair of target revolvers.
March 1, 2013, 07:20 PM
March 1, 2013, 07:24 PM
Very nice, Iggy. But not .45 ACP. :cool:
March 1, 2013, 07:33 PM
July 4, 2013, 12:57 PM
So are you guys just shooting auto rim in the 45 colt smith's
July 4, 2013, 01:07 PM
That's not possible.
You can't close the cylinder on a .45 Colt gun with the much thicker rimmed .45 AR cartridges in it.
July 4, 2013, 01:43 PM
thanks for the info. This is probably one of the best threads I have ever read on here.
July 4, 2013, 03:19 PM
Rim thickness
.45 Col (1873) is 0.0610"
45 Auto RIm (1922) is 0.0905"
as well as the case diameter just forward of the
rim being slightly greater diameter in the .45 Colt
so if one would want to convert a Ruger Blackhawk
to .45 uto RIm, start with the .45 ACP cylinger
NOT the ,45 Cikt ctkubder,
Corresponded with Hamilton Bowen on this project
I've got 350 or so roundes of .45 Auto Rim
.45 Auto RIm Leadhead hardcast
200 gr, SWC @ 1,000 FPS
& 40 rds of 225 gr. Barnes XPB HP @ 940 FPS
July 4, 2013, 05:21 PM
I haven't shot it in a while, but it sure is cool.
July 4, 2013, 10:57 PM
So smith and Wesson did not make a model that shot both 45 colt and 45 acp. I was thinking at one time someone told me that had one that did. Maybe it was some kind of a custom.
July 4, 2013, 11:01 PM
No, it's not possible without two cylinders and two cranes.
Even then, the cylinder stud in the side of the frame would be in the wrong place for the shorter cylinder for .45 ACP/.45 AR.
Ruger & others make two cylinder guns but they are all single-actions.
The new S&W Governor shoots .45 Colt, .45 ACP, and .410 shotgun shells.
Maybe that's what you heard about?
July 5, 2013, 01:36 AM
yes, s&w does make a model that shoots both. it is the model 25. different dash numbers are chambered for either the 45lc or the 45acp. none of the guns are chambered for both calibers.
one model number and two calibers is a bit confusing.
July 5, 2013, 01:58 AM
So with a separate crane and cylinder could you shoot each caliber?
July 5, 2013, 07:05 AM
So with a separate crane and cylinder could you shoot each caliber?
Yes, if the revolver is originally a 45 ACP. Gun Digest had an article on converting the S&W 1917 to handle both the ACP and the 45 long Colt. The cylinder for the Colt cartridge was relieved where it would hit the frame stud. Bullets had to be seated deepoer for the long Colt cartridge also as I recall. There is a bit more to it and after reading the article, it is probably easier to have two seperate revolvers.
Vern Humphrey
July 5, 2013, 09:51 AM
Actually, they do -- the Governor shoots .45 Colt, .45 ACP and .410 shotgun.
But don't ask me why.
Dave T
July 5, 2013, 03:21 PM
People have taken Model 25-5s, chambered for the 45 Colt cartridge and had custom gunsmiths counter bore the cylinder to take moon clipped 45 ACPs. It's expensive and not every smith can do it but it can be done.
As stated by others, if you start with a 45 ACP gun/cylinder you would have to have another cylinder and crane fitted to the gun.
July 5, 2013, 09:19 PM
I'm late to this party, but I come with pics. I'm a fan of all things .45acp, including revolvers.
This snubby is an Austin Behlert customized 25-2. Back in the day if you wanted a short barreled big bore carry gun, you went to someone like Behlert or Jovino's and had them make you one. It is everything you would expect a gun built by a master gunsmith to be.
This one is a .45acp S&W 28-2 customized by Marc Krebs of 1911 and AK fame. He built it back around 1987 for an IL cop, lots of machine and detail work, a great example of a top notch 'smith's talents.
July 6, 2013, 09:50 AM
I have a couple of pre lock 625's. I like them a lot.I don't have anything negative to say about themVery accurate.
Deaf Smith
July 6, 2013, 07:34 PM
That snub 625 I'd die for.... well not literally but that is an excellent wheelgun by far!
Now Clark Custom guns told me the 625 could take .45 Supers easily (and mine does.)
Love to get a 625 and do what you had that done! 230s at 1000 fps would do!
July 6, 2013, 07:58 PM
This thread has legs...never expected it to become so popular.
July 6, 2013, 08:37 PM
Convinced to get a .45 ACP revolver yet? :)
July 7, 2013, 01:10 PM
People have taken Model 25-5s, chambered for the 45 Colt cartridge and had custom gunsmiths counter bore the cylinder to take moon clipped 45 ACPs. It's expensive and not every smith can do it but it can be done.
Pinnacle can convert 45 Colt cylinders to shoot both 45 Colt and 45 acp. Looks like the conversion is only $80. I wouldn't call that "expensive" .
July 7, 2013, 02:43 PM
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July 7, 2013, 03:21 PM
Cons are that you are shooting a pretty wimpy round out of that big of a gun. In the same size you could get an eight shot 357 or a six shot 44 Magnum.
Um, no. I would not characterize it as wimpy. Yes, you could shoot a .357 magnum or .44 magnum out of a similar-sized revolver. But a .45acp revolver is still in the hand-cannon category.
There is a man who shoots a .45acp revolver (like the target model in post #18 above) each monthly steel match at my range. He is always in the top 10, and sometimes top 5, at each match. He shoots reloaded lead rounds and occasionally knocks over a steel plate hanging on a 6-foot stand. The rounds out of that revolver hit targets with sort of a "shove," as I would describe it.
July 7, 2013, 03:21 PM
That snub 625 I'd die for.... well not literally but that is an excellent wheelgun by far!
Now Clark Custom guns told me the 625 could take .45 Supers easily (and mine does.)
Love to get a 625 and do what you had that done! 230s at 1000 fps would do!
Thanks. I can't claim anything but ownership on that revolver, except for a couple of minor repairs I had done, the custom work was done about 30 years ago!
savit260 - Pinnacle does excellent work, Mark did the repairs on my Behlert 25-2 and also customized another revovler for me.
Vern Humphrey
July 7, 2013, 03:48 PM
You know, if there are gun manufacturers hanging out on this thread, they just might take a hint. A decent .45 Colt revolver with the cylinder inlet for half moon clips for .45 ACP might be a great seller -- equal to the Judge or Governor.
And if they could talk an ammo manufacturer into making a .45 Colt shotshell . . .
July 7, 2013, 04:00 PM
They work good in a Colt SAA for snake control.
Vern Humphrey
July 7, 2013, 04:03 PM
Now they need to advertise them better -- perhaps in conjunction with the release of a new .45/.45ACP revolver. They might even consider making them look like a shotshell.
July 8, 2013, 08:57 AM
I think the size, weight, and balance of the 625JM on a N frame is what makes it a good target gun. I own both 625JM in (.45 ACP, 4") and 629 (in .44 Magnum, 5"), and they're basically the same gun with different cylinder lengths. The 625JM is an excellent bullseye shooter.
July 8, 2013, 11:38 AM
The Smith 625 PC is my favorite revolver and just might be my favorite handgun. The N frame soaks up the recoil similar to a good 1911. The moonclips are quick & easy to reload and very inexpensive compared to a magazine.
July 8, 2013, 01:42 PM
Range Session yesterday
625-10 5" Bbl.
13 Full Moon clips of WWB 230 gr. FMJ
24 Rounds of Leadhead 200 gr. SWC @ 1,000 FPS
My shooting buddy, shot his G19 and G20 and would
pause every so often to pick jup brass.
I do-mooned the WWB later listening to the Mariners baseball game.
Personally, I don't think having a separate crane / cylinder is
a very good idea. If yah want a .45 Colt get a Ruger Blackhawk
July 8, 2013, 04:06 PM
I have a Colt 1917 dated 1919 in 98% condition. But I wont shoot it.
July 9, 2013, 12:44 PM
625 are my favorite match guns.
Liked the first one so much that I grabbed another when it came along.
July 9, 2013, 05:44 PM
Had a 25-2 and sadly, sold it. Still have a Colt 1917 and a Smith 625-2. The smartest thing that I ever did was deep-six those half-moon clips and go with auto rim brass. They are fun to shoot.
July 9, 2013, 07:24 PM
my favorite match gunsWhat grips are those?
Dave T
July 9, 2013, 11:27 PM
Pinnacle can convert 45 Colt cylinders to shoot both 45 Colt and 45 acp. Looks like the conversion is only $80. I wouldn't call that "expensive" .
I just shipped a gun to the Eastern US and FedEx charged me $76 one way (UPS was the same price). When you double that for going both ways and add your $80 it becomes over $230. That's dang close to "expensive" in my book. Fine if that's what you want and have to have but it isn't cheep.
July 9, 2013, 11:29 PM
But, you don't have to ship the whole 'firearm' to have the moon-clip conversion done.
You only have to ship the cylinder in a USPS small fixed-rate box.
July 10, 2013, 08:40 AM
45ACP's?.....S&W 325PD,Webley converted to ACP,Colt 1917,S&W 25-2 and S&W 625JM
2 conversion Blackhawk's...Redhawk 45C on the bottom..
July 10, 2013, 08:50 AM
I had a few 1911's. Never really cared much about them. Didn't really like them when I was in the military also. Gave one to my Son and sold the other. Bought a S&W 625 and fell in love with the thing. Also had reloading gear for the 45 ACP. Just purchased a Ruger Blackhawk Convertible in 45LC/45ACP. It's going to the range today. For me the unending supply of free 45ACP brass is a plus. It sometimes carpets the concrete where I shoot.
July 10, 2013, 09:00 AM
I just shipped a gun to the Eastern US and FedEx charged me $76 one way (UPS was the same price). When you double that for going both ways and add your $80 it becomes over $230. That's dang close to "expensive" in my book. Fine if that's what you want and have to have but it isn't cheep.
Take the crane and cylinder off and ship them in a USPS small shipping box. Under $20 round trip.
As to shipping a whole gun.. Have your local FFL ship it for you. The price will be MUCH cheaper than trying to do it yourself.
EDIT TO ADD: Copied and pasted direct from the website.
Most conversions can be made by simply shipping the cylinder!
Return priority shipping for a cylinder is $7.00 and $1.00 for each additional cylinder.
Not exactly bank busting. ;)
July 10, 2013, 11:51 AM
I believe the first time S&W ever made a revolver in
.45 Colt (and GASP, put that on thre barrel of
a S&W ) was in the mid-80s with the introduction
of the 25-5 S&W used the same model 25 nuber
because they had used up all the 20-29 numbers
Dave T
July 10, 2013, 02:36 PM
The last time I talked to a gunsmith about machining a cylinder for moon clips, he wanted the whole gun to make sure the clearance was proper between the clipped rounds and the standing breech/firing pin bushing. Guess he was too picky.
As for "having your FFL ship it", they charge both for the time and trouble and the USPS fee, which still ends up at around $100 to ship a gun both ways.
For those of you who have cheeper ways of doing this kind of stuff...well, good for you. Those options are not always available.
July 10, 2013, 05:43 PM
The $14 round trip is available.
If you choose to make it more expensive, I guess that's you're prerogative, but this doesn't need to be an expensive endeavor.
If you want to keep standing by your assertion that this is "expensive" , feel free, but the facts state otherwise.
July 10, 2013, 10:23 PM
This from Pinnacal moon-clip conversion website.
They are one of the best shops to do this work.
* Most conversions can be made by simply shipping the cylinder!
Return priority shipping for a cylinder is $7.00 and $1.00 for each additional cylinder.
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Five of those shutouts have been posted by Guilfoyle, but Bellwood's defense only has given up more than 15 points twice all year. The Devils even held District 6 Class AA semifinalist Richland, which put 35 points on the board against BG, to one offensive touchdown two weeks ago.
"Our defense really has been playing well. We've come up against some pretty good offensive football teams and managed to play some pretty good defense," Hayes said. "The kids have been excited about it and working hard. As you get further into the year, we get settled in a little bit more in the schemes you want to do."
The Devils have held two straight opponents to 170 yards or less. In its playoff opener, Bellwood limited Glendale to 140 yards and no offensive touchdowns.
Guilfoyle's defense has held the opposition to 12 touchdowns all season. Wheeler, though, sees this as a test on par with Richland or perhaps exceeding anything the Marauders have faced all year in some respects.
"Juniata Valley had some speed, and Bellwood might be the fastest team we play. Definitely, containing their speed is going to be the key to the game, and also their quarterback [Seth Worthing], who is definitely a runner," Wheeler said.
The Marauders played larger schools all year, but, going up against the top seed and defending runner-up, Wheeler said he is approaching this game as though BG were a clear underdog.
"I think people all year long have been expecting us not to do the things we have. We have a lot of stuff to prove. We're still striving to get better, and we don't think we've played our best game yet," Wheeler said. "We know people are counting us out. We've seen that before. Hopefully it turns out to our advantage this week."


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Freshman second baseman Kayla Drury was figuratively jumping for joy before last week's game against Niagara. Cleared to play without wearing a knee brace for the first time in a year, she might have literally tried to as well.
"Friday had to be one of the best days for me in a very long time," Drury said. "Knowing that I was not going to be wearing the brace had me so excited it was like a huge weight had been lifted off of my shoulders, not to mention my leg. I felt much more relaxed."
Drury and the Hatters will return to action this weekend as they host the Stetson Classic at Patricia Wilson Field. Colgate, Fairleigh Dickinson, Valparaiso, and Stetson will compete in a three-day tournament where each team will play five games.
Drury says her injury took place the very first week of tryouts in her senior year of high school, just over one year ago.
"I was running back on a ball and I jumped up to catch it but when I came down, my leg was locked out and I remember hearing the loudest pop come from my right knee," Drury said. "I just fell to the ground."
The injury forced Drury to miss her entire senior season at Taylor High School and most of her summer travel ball season with the Central Florida Sting.
"My first game back was the opening day of the ASA National Tournament that we won in Tennessee this past summer," Drury said. "It was the best feeling in the world to be able to finally play again. (Wearing the brace) definitely took some getting used to, but eventually I was fine with it."
Drury played with the brace in the fall and through the first month of the regular season. She is off to a good start, batting .333 with a pair of doubles while starting all 14 games for the Hatters at second base. She also ranks second on the team with a .462 average with runners on base.
"Kayla has exceeded expectations," head coach Frank Griffin said. "She is playing in a very mature manner and making the adjustment to the college game well. I believe she is only going to get better with more experience. I am very pleased to have her as a part of the team."
Drury is part of a Stetson infield that at times has started three freshmen and a sophomore.
"Most people might think that since we have such a young infield, it could get messy, but we are all in-tune with one another and we communicate well," Drury said. "We work hard everyday and we trust each other to get the job done."
Now that she is playing without a brace, Drury says she may be more comfortable utilizing one of her better assets, her speed. In high school, Drury stole 109 bases without ever getting thrown out.
"I think moving forward without the brace will help with my speed on the bases and in the field," Drury said.
The Hatters, meanwhile, have played well of late, winning seven of their last eight games entering the weekend tournament.
"I think this first month has gone really well for us," Drury said. "We're young, I mean there are six freshman, including me, but we all work great together and we all have each other's backs. It's a great feeling knowing that every single member of this team can pull through for us."
Live video will be avaiable on HatterVision for all five Stetson games this weekend, although no announcer will be present for Friday's games. Live stats, the Stetson Softball twitter feed, and the Hat-Alerts text messaging service are also available for in-game updates.
Tournament Schedule: Saturday: Sunday:
Valparaiso vs. Fairleigh Dickinson 11:00 am
Colgate vs. Valparaiso 1:30 pm
Fairleigh Dickinson vs. Stetson 4:00 pm
Stetson vs. Colgate 6:30 pm
Colgate vs. Valparaiso 11:00 am
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Stetson vs. Fairleigh Dickinson 6:30 pm
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Palliasjon på sykehjem: Hva gjør helsepersonell i møte med alvorlig syke og døende pasienter - og hvordan formes deres handlinger?
(The University of Bergen, 2013-05-13)
Masteravhandlingen har fokus på helsearbeideres praksiserfaringer i møte med alvorlig syke og døende pasienter på sykehjem. Hensikten er å beskrive, forstå og forklare hva helsepersonell gjør når de utfører palliativ ...
Interferon (IFN)-γ-mediated inflammation and the kynurenine pathway in relation to bone mineral density: the Hordaland Health Study
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The risk of osteoporosis increases in inflammatory disorders. In cell-mediated immune activation, interferon (IFN)-γ stimulates macrophage release of neopterin and increases the activity of indoleamine 2,3-dioxygenase ...
Health-related quality of life and emotional and behavioral difficulties after extreme preterm birth: developmental trajectories
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Background: Knowledge of long-term health related outcomes in contemporary populations born extremely preterm (EP) is scarce.We aimed to explore developmental trajectories of health-related quality of life (HRQoL) and ...
Bruk av genetiske opplysninger utenfor helsevesenet
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Background: Genetic information entails information about future risk of disease or information about carrier status. The Human Medical use of Biotechnology Act (2003) § 5-8 prohibits the use of this form of genetic ...
Læringsmiljøet i norske vevsentre
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To ensure quality and patient safety in health services, the organizations performing the services must be diagnosed as learning organizations. The aim of this thesis is to gather information about Norwegian cell- and ...
Reducing cancellations of planned operations. A case study of improving the quality of care at a district general hospital
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Background: Cancellations of planned surgeries are a well-recognized quality problem in healthcare. They harm patients and waste resources, leading to increased healthcare costs and undermining patient-centered care ...
Delayed Sleep Phase Disorder. Prevalence, sleep, circadian rhythm and treatment
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Adolescence is often characterized by delayed and irregular sleep patterns, with potential negative consequences in terms of school performance and daytime functioning. At the most extreme, a stably delayed sleep phase ...
Strengthening malaria and climate research in Ethiopia
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Observationsstudie av två manuellterapeuter, vid undersökning och behandling av spädbarn med asymmetri i nacken.
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Background: There is currently a debate regarding the importance of infant cervical asymmetry. There is no golden standard on how to diagnose or classify the condition. There is no evidence based documentation on the effect ...
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Background: Manual Therapy interventions in terms of mobilization and manipulation of the cervical spine are often implemented in the treatment of acute and sub acute neck pain. Nevertheless, there is limited evidence ...


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Fall 1998 Volume 3, Issue 2
1998 Brian D. Novis Grant Progress Reports
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In Exodus: Gods and Kings, director Ridley Scott reimagines the biblical epic. While it's a huge undertaking, the director had no hesitations.
"The bigger the better," Scott tells PEOPLE of his latest project, due in theaters Dec. 12. "It's all pretty massive."
The film – starring Christian Bale (as Moses), Joel Edgerton, Sigourney Weaver and Aaron Paul – "is an emotional journey," Scott notes. And the director adds what sets it apart from previous iterations is its "realistic characters," with emotional performances from Bale and Edgerton.
"I was knocked out," Scott says of the actors, who play the squabbling siblings Moses and Rhamses.
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"The word 'authentic' comes to mind," Edgerton, 40, who plays pharaoh-to-be Rhamses, tells PEOPLE. "It feels very rich, grand and epic. There's something very regal and austere and driven about it, and very human."
The Aussie actor, who played Tom Buchanan in Baz Luhrmann's The Great Gatsby, says there was a lot of prep work involved with his character. And though Rhamses is a Battle of Kadesh-fighting, two-horse-chariot-commanding warrior, Edgerton was more worried about grooming than training.
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And Edgerton notes that working on a such a blockbuster production was a great experience – particularly because of his "deeply emotional" scenes with Bale ("It was a great dynamic Christian and I had") and Scott's expansive vision ("It's big and f–––ing grand").
Scott promises an even more spectacular adaptation than previous iterations like The Ten Commandments, which starred Charlton Heston as Moses: "We nailed it absolutely visually."
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Please do not name actual players from opposing teams coming back to Detroit, but rather just what team you think is the best candidate for a trade for Detroit and what you think Detroit would send out to them for exchange (ie. Lebda and Leino for picks, or Meech for a prospect, or Meech and Leino for a forward, etc...)
My personal choice, is the New York Islanders - They are a young, fast team that is still growing and needs speed on the back end.
Detroit could send Lebda and Leino to NY and in return, NY could send a late round pick or two and a mid level prospect to Detroit
BOTH Lebda and Leino would get immediate minutes on that roster, possibly even in top pairing situations with their lack of depth and youth and not add a ton of cap space to a frugal NY team (who has a TON of cap space to spare) - in return, Detroit gets future picks/prospects to develop while freeing up roster spots and cap space
as with all trades in the NHL, this would be a win/win - which are optimal.
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Pacquiao at USA Today
Manny Pacquiao talks to USA Today about being a Congressman and his upcoming fight against Shane Mosley on May 7th. read more »
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Cotto vs Mayora LA Press Con
Miguel Cotto and Ricardo Mayorga were in LA today to promote the start of fight week. Catch Relentless at the MGM Grand or on Showtime PPV on March 12th. read more »
Relentless: Mayorga vs Cotto
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If anyone had told me 16 years ago that I would be sitting in my high school auditorium with my husband, my bubbe, my father and my fatherâs girlfriend—I would have said they were crazy.
But isnât it funny how life can change?
The first time I sat in that auditorium I was a lowly freshman; my sister, who last week was singing and dancing on stage, was just two months old; my father was still married to my stepmother; and my husband was a senior in high school nearly 2,000 miles away.
Last weekend, I went home to Chicago. My husband, who had spent the week in the Midwest on business trip flew to meet me and we spent the night at my bubbeâs house in the burbs. I was in charge of driving, since I was the most comfortable with getting behind the wheel in snow.
After dropping my husband and bubbe off in the front, I parked the car in the large lot â odd for me, because when I was a student, I would usually park in back (closer to the school).
As I, in my winter boots, made my way to the entrance, I couldnât help but notice my shadow ⦠taller than the last time I had entered the building.
I walked into the lobby area in front of the auditorium and spotted two of my teachers â a rarity considering most of my sisterâs teachers are younger than I.
âHi Mr. H!â I said, to the man who taught me theater for two of the four years I was at the school.
He turned and his mouth dropped open and he exclaimed âShoshana!â
The teacher he was with, who was the drama club supervisor, had a huge smile on her face.
I gave Mr. H a hug and turned to the handsome man next to me: âMr. H, I donât think youâve met my husband. Mr. H taught me all I know about improv.â
As my husband shook Mr. Hâs hand he said, âso YOU are the one who taught Shoshana all of her tricks?â
Mr. H said, âGuilty.â
I acknowledged the other teacher standing next to him and said: âThey both did. I had my first directing job in Mrs. Fâs drama program.â
Mr. H asked what I was doing there and I told him my sister was in the musical.
He shook his head and said: âI feel oldâ and then introduced me to his daughter, who was born when I was a sophomore.
The lights flickered and it was time to go in.
As we walked away, my husband asked if this whole thing was strange for me.
As I sat there with my family, I looked at the stage I had the pleasure of stepping onto many times in my four years at that high school.
I looked at him, squeezed his hand and smiled: âNo,â I told him. âItâs like being home â only I think the room shrunk.â
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ACCA Council (the Association of Chartered Certified Accountants) will be holding its biennial international meeting in the UAE in March 2014, with senior delegations visiting Bangladesh, Oman, Pakistan and Sri Lanka to better understand how the accountancy profession is supporting growing economies in the Middle East and South Asia (MESA).
These important meetings will enable Council members to learn first-hand from businesses, policymakers and learning providers how the economies of this broad and diverse region offer a wealth of potential.
Martin Turner, ACCA's President, explains: 'ACCA is a global organisation, and it's for this reason that ACCA Council has held a meeting away from London every two years since 2006. Council's meeting is a concrete demonstration both of ACCA's global credentials and its serious commitment to the country and regions visited.'
Stuart Dunlop, Director of MENASA region for ACCA, adds: 'The meetings and events we plan to hold during this time provide excellent opportunities for ACCA Council Members to meet with key stakeholders and engage with members. The visit will also reinforce ACCA's commitment to the development of the Middle East and South Asia as a whole, as the region continues to provide significant employment opportunities for ACCA members in economies which are enjoying sustainable growth.'
To mark the occasion, a special edition of ACCA's magazine Accounting & Business (A&B) has been produced, focusing on the three issues ACCA Council Members will be championing during their visit: Women in Finance; the future of Corporate Reporting and the value of ACCA's members to the region, who bring skills as Complete Finance Professionals.
Susie Isaacson, head of ACCA UAE, says: 'It will be a real pleasure to welcome ACCA Council Members to Dubai. They have a busy itinerary that takes in meetings with the media, learning providers, businesses and policy makers, as well as meeting with fellow ACCA members. They will also welcome new ACCA members into the profession. We have a lot to show them about how we operate.'
Martin Turner concludes: 'My editorial in A&B asserts that the economic growth in this region means there are great opportunities for accountants to prove their value and their worth. I know from colleagues in this diverse region that professional accountants are needed to help capacity building grow further. It is finance professionals who will be at the forefront of providing the strategic leadership and the organisational stewardship needed for sustainable growth.'
- International Council meetings have previously taken place in Kuala Lumpur (Malaysia), Beijing (People's Republic of China), Prague (Czech Republic) and Nairobi (Kenya). In 2014, the meeting is being held for the first time in the MENASA region and the venue is Dubai (United Arab Emirates).


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Quality Education in the Benedictine Tradition
Ten Saint Vincent College graduates who now work in various health professions spoke to current students about career opportunities at the annual Pre-Health Professions Career Night Program in the Dr. Frank Luparello Lecture Hall of the Sis and Herman Dupré Science Pavilion at Saint Vincent on November 8. Br. Norman W. Hipps, O.S.B., left, president of Saint Vincent College, and Dr. Stephen Jodis, right, dean, Herbert W. Boyer School of Natural Sciences, Mathematics, and Computing, welcomed, from left, Joseph A. Altier, D.C., C'95, chiropractor in Jeannette; Angelo DeMezza, M.D., C'69, associate medical director, UPMC Health Plan; David J. DeRienzo, M.P.T., C'91, physical therapist, UPMC Home Health; Clement A. Guarlotti, D.M.D., C'67, prosthodontist in Greensburg; Michele L. Jacobson, D.O., C'92, physician in Jeannette; Constance H. Donovan Matson, D.V.M., C'04, veterinarian in Ligonier; Michael E. Rhodes, Ph.D., C'93, associate professor of biology at SVC; Rachel M. Stevenson, P.A.-C., C'97, physician assistant, VA Primary Care Center, Greensburg; and George M. Toohey, O.D., C'70, optometrist in Charleroi and Latrobe. Missing from photo is Allen A. Dzambo, Jr., D.P.M., C'93, podiatrist, Excela Health in Latrobe. Nearly 100 undergraduates attended the program.


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Welcome to the official IPA (International Paruresis Association) website.
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Real music, no auto-tune, great lyrics, and just raw talent!!
Take notes kids!
Real music, no auto-tune, great lyrics, and just raw talent!!
Take notes kids!
guy # 1: "Have you heard of Mumford and Sons??"
guy #2: "Hell ya!! M&S are effin brilliant!!"
guy #2: "Hell ya!! M&S are effin brilliant!!"
by Kinifelburger October 06, 2010
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A British Band that plays Folkish type music consisting of the same tempo and melodies for every single song.
- The group can also be defined as a poor mans Fleet Foxes.
- The group can also be defined as a poor mans Fleet Foxes.
"They play the one Mumford and Sons song all the time at the Starbucks where I go. When I asked the barista why that particular song played so much when normally they have more variety to their playlists, she explained to me that it wasn't just one song but an entire album of songs that sound exactly the same."
by Bariston the Bold June 11, 2013
A terrible, nothing special, bland pseudo-folk band from the U.K. that's gone multi platinum with their second studio release entitled "Babel". The singer, Marcus Mumford looks like a pedophile or like he swallows cum on a daily basis at the very least, and is also proof that a frontman who names his band after his last name is always bound to make bad cookie cutter music (ex. Bon Jovi, Van Halen etc.)
Who the fuck are these guys on the radio that are playing banjos? Mumford and Sons suck shit!
by a_user February 02, 2013
when your male partner gives you the classic "mumford" but puts they're balls in your mouth at the same time.
my girl almost choked when i gave her the mumford and sons last night!
by the captn March 04, 2012
When you pass out and take a dump in your pants (or shorts) and you wake up and you have a moderate to large sized turd accompanied by multiple smaller pebble to dingleberry sized crewmembers. Much like the band and music that share the same name.
3 days of Yeager and Oxycodone led me to my own personal concert with Mumford and Sons headlining in my pants.
by SteelofCrom September 10, 2014
A band that makes the most beautiful music ever written/sang. It is said that it is the music of heaven. It can be the solution to any problem, feud, or war.
Every war can we ended and resolved just by playing Mumford and Sons. If you are having an argument with someone, all you have so say is "Mumford and Sons", and all will be resolved and fixed again.
by McGrotes December 15, 2011
The composers of one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard: Learn Me Right/Not with Haste, one of the soundtracks from Pixar's Brave movie.
"We will run and scream
You will dance with me
We'll fulfill our dreams
And we'll be free
We will be who we are
And they'll heal our scars
Sadness will be far away"
Mumford and Sons
You will dance with me
We'll fulfill our dreams
And we'll be free
We will be who we are
And they'll heal our scars
Sadness will be far away"
Mumford and Sons
by cg1212 December 29, 2012


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An it couple are a super cool couple who are generally hot. People want to be this couple as they are amazing to look at.
Jack the super cool, gorgeous quater back of the football team is going out with Jenna the lead chearleader. There the new it couple!
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why do you continue to do this? It makes no sense at all. I will say that you are dilligent, they should recruit you to wipe out the Islamist websites. The terrorists would be screwed then. was that offensive? Nah, we don't have any of them on here, they're too busy learning how to make bombs to try to blow us up. You guys make the FCC look downright liberal. Last time I saw a case of censorship this bad was in.... Oh, 1938? Little guy named Hitler? I hope you at least get a chuckle out of this before it gets removed. It will get removed, they don't want to talk to us peeons who actually support the site. Who are we compared to them, the silent Gods of the Manga site?
i thought it was funny Fear and Anger are the roots of evil so i choose to be fearless and forgive those who offend me.
I am happy I was able to make someone laugh, it is a pleasure to be able to do so.
Hey I might be buzzed, but that is funny as hell!! lol... and, hey, I agree.... Hitler-------gay..... Same as them....lol (WHo are they?!) haha Peace, love, and rock and roll
i'm a god persay....lol.i agree with you 1000000000%not only is it funny but it's right.and when they delete are post they are violating are contitutional rights.like the freedom of speech."people do not need violence to solve there problems."


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The ACCA Achievement Award recognises individuals who have made an outstanding contribution to developing the accounting and finance profession. The awards are based on merit and given to individuals whose contributions deserve global recognition and whose efforts reflect ACCA's core values of accountability, diversity, innovation, integrity, and opportunity.
Mr. James Kallman has made exemplary contributions to the accounting and finance profession in Indonesia. Mr. Kallman was formerly the President Director of Moores Rowland Indonesia, and played a pivotal role in the merger between Moores Rowland and Mazars Indonesia. Mr. Kallman has also done extensive work in the area of human rights compliance and accountability. As the Global Head of Human Rights at Mazars, he has been instrumental in driving forward the agenda of sustainable, responsible businesses that hold human rights and social compliance at their core. Mr. Kallman and his wife Mrs. Dewi Suryati established the Mei Lin Kallman Foundation, and run a program for deaf schools to teach students business and entrepreneurial skills.
Mr. Reza Ali ACCA, Head of Emerging Markets – Asia, ACCA presented Mr. James Kallman with the ACCA Achievement Award.
In his speech highlighting the public value that finance professionals bring, Mr. Reza Ali said: 'Public value means working in the public interest, promoting responsible and ethical business and supporting enhanced global economic performance. That's three clear, simple and achievable things – for ACCA as a professional body and for our members as finance professionals. I believe it resonates with other business sectors too.'
He also highlighted the need to have discussions around trust and public value.
Mr. James Kallman said: 'I am delighted to receive this award from ACCA. The ACCA Achievement Award is a great initiative to recognise professionals who are committed to developing the finance and accounting industry and providing value to the community as a whole.'
In his speech on human rights auditing and compliance, he outlined the shift in business practices and highlighted the need for firms to respect human rights and be more responsible corporate citizens.
Mr. Mulyadi Setiakusuma, Head of ACCA Indonesia, said: 'This is the first time we have presented the ACCA Achievement Award in Indonesia. By recognising individuals who have delivered significant public value by developing the finance and accounting industry, we hope to inspire finance professionals to create public value in their professions. Finance professionals are at the heart of the business, and it is critical that they uphold the highest level of ethics and contribute towards developing a sustainable economy.'


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Deputies: Man calls 911; 110 pot plants found inside home
Published 6:18 PM EST Dec 31, 2012
Flagler County deputies said they found 110 pot plants inside a man's home after he called 911.
Deputies said Shaune Lawrence, 54, called 911 at 4 a.m. Monday to report a robbery at his Palm Coast home. He said two men burst into his home and tried to rob him.
When deputies showed up, Lawrence allowed them to search the home, deputies said.
They found 110 pot plants and an elaborate grow operation in a spare bedroom and bathroom, the Sheriff's Office said.
He was charged with three counts of possession of a controlled substance.
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