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Zoe Goldring and Gretchen Ledgard - What is it like to interview at Microsoft?
- Posted: Aug 19, 2004 at 6:48PM
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Gretchen wrote:Zippy - that's a really good question. You're right ... we do get a lot of people who apply for positions well beyond their experience and that's always amusing. Things like: "I believe that my 5 years as Lead Cook at IHOP has prepared me for the opening as the Director of Windows." And people are serious.
As for corporate spies ... wow, that's a good one. Honestly, I've never thought about that. Kinda like "secret shoppers," huh?
A couple years ago, it was trendy to make one of those human billboards that read "Hire me" or "Will Code for Food" and then stand on the street corner near MS. For some reason (and I have no idea why), I was the person typically assigned to greeting them and talking to them about Microsoft. Never a dull moment ...
Interesting not how I thought it would be. Nice insight.
phunky_avocado wrote:We recently had someone apply for a senior development position. She asked as a minimum salary of $150K!
variable wrote:What a load of crap. Like Microsoft's interviewing has some sort of science behind it. ...
I have been through the interview process several times. Once I got hired. During my 4+ years working there my average review score was 3.5. Managers said they had never seen anyone progress and get promotions as fast as I did.
So more interviews... Did I get hired again? NO! ...
So logically, how can this be? If the hiring process at Microsoft is not a pile of crap, why wouldn't someone who interviewed me see the value I have??
Microsoft interviewing is non scientific. Extremely flawed and nothing more than a cruel joke that Microsoft staff play upon their victims. They are on the inside. You are an outsider. Interviewers REALLY enjoy judging people and putting them in the hot seat. I think they are sadists.
Bitter? Me? Yes! I worked my * off for Microsoft and got rewarded in the end with a boot up my a**.
If you ask just about any recruiter (and this interview with Zoe / Gretchen higlights this as well), you don't "need" a degree. I know many MS'ers who don't have degrees (including, ahem, Lenn here).
But, it definitely helps because ultimately you need to get noticed to get hired by Microsoft. No degree==less chance of being noticed.
Also, most MS job postings don't actually say "require". They say "preferred", which is a pretty accurate statement.
variable wrote:Bitter? Me? Yes! I worked my * off for Microsoft and got rewarded in the end with a boot up my *.
Can you say Open Source? How about Linux? Believe me. DO NOT come to Microsoft to interview unless you are a masochist.
variable wrote:What a load of crap. Like Microsoft's interviewing has some sort of science behind it....[snip, snip, snip]...DO NOT come to Microsoft to interview unless you are a masochist.
Working at MS is, and isn't, what you think.
I had a completely different view before I arrived here as a contractor then again as full time. MS is a big company, with big company issues, but it's still fun - the people help. The folks I work with are funny, creative, hard working and the best part is they are all smarter than me at something - learning from others (and teaching them) is one of the highlights of working here for me.
Also, I have 9 hours of college - but most don't make it a big deal (and most assume I do). If I wanted my managers managers job, then yeah, MBA required, but I enjoy doing my small part here.
I was offered a blue spot after 2 or 3 months of contracting here. While the pay wasn't (note past tense, took a while to catch up, but worth it IMO) as good, the long term benefits are much greater. The interview went fine - the director scared me a bit, as did the SQL gal, other than that (yes, there was the old cliché of the guy who asks you a bunch of riddle logic questions), standard fare.
MisterDonut wrote:
First off, sorry about your loss of job. It's not fun when anyone "gets the boot".
But, there are a number of reasons people don't get jobs, despite being qualified for them. Probably the most important of which is personality.
The point being: There is a lot of science to interviewing and skills are just one aspect. Perhaps your tendency towards bitterness was showing through?
In _all_ cases that I failed in Microsoft interviews (AFTER I WAS A MS EMPLOYEE) it was due to not being able to speak like I write CS textbooks on any issue the interviewer brings up. I could have aced another interview if I remembered these simple words: "SQL Execution Plans" On the job I could have brought that to mind is a minute or so. In an interview the pressure kills.
The hiring manager that originally hired me into my Microsoft position said, "You were hired because you have proved that you can learn what's put in front of you and you continue to learn."
So I hope the non-equation is painted clearly enough here.
I got hired because I proved I had the right stuff in that I could and did continually learn what was put in front of me. I didn't get re-hired because I couldn't satisfy the interviewer that I know enough. Is that your interviewing science?
I'm not sure, but I don't believe any that I dealt with directly have been hired.
variable wrote:
One example: 2,2,3,3,3,5,5,6,6,9,9
Write a routine that finds the number in the above set that shows up an odd number of times.
In any organization, things are very clear
1. You need to upgrade and it has to be constant
coz, Changes are constant
2. If you say , you know something means YOU KNOW THAT THING WELL
3. Its typical of the interviewer to expect a hashtype, it needs no intellisense but a little presence of the sense.
4. Most behavioural interviews expect to judge your behaviours to find out whether you chicken out easily or you have a die-hard attitude or atleast if you are /can think in the right direction.
5. Last, the interviewer is human and no science can say how a person thinks.. Perspective still changes. So just becoz you had a bad experience does not mean their interview process is not scienthific.
Also, just b4 signing off... everything in the world thats a fact is scienthific (but whose perspective?)
open source has its pros and cons..
business wise - i dont recommend it especially to the non-techies..
It sounds like you are bitter. While I also question the "scientific" nature of an interview, I obviously don't feel as strongly about it as you do.
I think it is impossible to count on a lot of accuracy when people are involved. I have never been hired by Microsoft and when I was interested in a job, I never seemed to get past the phone interview. The times when I was not interested in relocating I would get past the phone interview but decided against the day long ordeal. I have no way of knowing how it would have turned out. I always find it somewhat funny that my skill set changed very little in the phone interviews I failed and the ones I passed......
I have heard good things about the interview process, usually from people who got hired and I have heard the bad. For instance a really really bright developer ran into an interviewer that seemed to be reading from a cheat sheet when asking questions. It became disconcerting for my friend because when he started to dig into the details of an issue it was obvious that the interviewer had no clue about the particular area and when trying to work through the problem with my friend became flustered that he might actually be wrong. My friend never made it past that one person.
I am pretty sure he was qualified since the area in question was something he just finished perfecting on my team. Was he turned down because he butted heads with the interviewer.. Probably... Is he working on stuff he loves now... Yes... Life goes on.
I still think the root of the difference with interviews and hire and fire decisions are the people involved.
Hi KSG,
THanks for your reply.
It'l be interesting to know what exactly a program manager does. I have read enough descriptions/profiles but its still not clear to me as to how a program manager is involved in the software developement aspect of a product. Most descriptions say that PMs define feature set, hold meetings, manage timelines.. how are these things related to software development?
Do program managers build architecutres? As in lets say theres a certain product- Is it the program managers job to come up with a software architecture (class heirarchy etc)? Are they supposed to care about details like 'use recursion instead of iteration' kind of issues? Do they write/read/troubleshoot code?
One example: 2,2,3,3,3,5,5,6,6,9,9Are you sure about that? If only one number in the list appears an odd number of times, then a much more efficient solution than a hash table is simply to take the XOR of all the numbers in the list. I'd have assumed that's what they were looking for. It's not really like MS to test whether you know specific APIs.
Write a routine that finds the number in the above set that shows up an odd number of times. Do it _now_ without any reference. Do it while under the pressure of someone waiting for you to do it.
The interviewer wants to see you use a hash in the solution.
I totally agree with you that being so picky with syntax just doesn't seem right from a MS recruiter, as mean as a recruiter can be. And also, where would the program end? Because, not remembering HashTable syntax would lead me to write a hash table from scratch. There's simply no end to the stuff. Your XOR solution is so elegant, that I'm pretty sure the problem did actually specify that there was only 1 number repeated an odd number of times.
I just finished watching all three videos for this sequence.
All three contained Very insightful and useful information I would say (on several levels at that).
Learning in general is a passion for me. Just recently I have taken up programming (I use a program that has the LUA language embedded in it, AutoPlay Media Studio 5 (Pro for me)). I maintain a Website for such issues (free projects for all to use). And, you can find me and a great bunch of other developers over at the Indigo Rose Corporation forums, day or night.
My day job covers telephone and in-person technical support for our services and the customer's hardware (usually their home based computer(s)).
As far as the interviews... I now take the stance that I am not going to try to impress the interviewer(s), but I will remember to try and stay relaxed... as when I am dealing with any given customer I work with currently. They just as well should see me as I usually am.
Now, does M.S. have any positions in Florida open? (Wink) Or, can one work from home for any of their positions?
My wife and I want to move to a warmer climate state (like Florida) sooner than later!
Well, that's my first post. I hope I can get the choice of either cookie or cracker! (grin)
thehelen.oftroy wrote:
Where is the next part ? i cudnt find it in this thread at least.
I had the telephone interview with the Hiring Mgr and was told to go to Atlanta for the actual interview. I told him about my visa(H1B) and he thought there was nothing wrong.
When I got the recruiter on the phone, we were planning the trip and told her about my visa situation which she already knew before, she said she'll check with the lawyers and never heard from her. Called her several times but never got any feedback. Nice way (I mean very professional way) of ending the process!!!
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Wednesday, March 6, 2013
Omar Brown, a member of the Baltimore Ravens Super Bowl XLVII Super Bowl champion team, came home to Moncks Corner this weekend.
Brown, a 2008 Berkeley High School graduate and a football standout, was in town over the weekend, honored by the community and a parade through town sponsored by Heart to Heart Ministries.
"It's just good to be back," Brown said with a boyish smile that reminded people of the young boy coming out of the Kitfield community who roamed the Park and Recreation football fields growing up.
Brown was decked out in a gray suit with a hint of Ravens purple in the shirt and tie. "They told me about this a couple weeks ago and I wasn't sure they were going to be able to make it happen, but they did," he said. "This is great. This is awesome."
Brown said the Super Bowl was unlike anything he'd experienced before.
"I was on my way to the dome and I thought, this is the Super Bowl and I'm going to the Super Bowl, anything can happen," he said. "Then in the third quarter the lights went out and I thought, yeah, that's right, anything really can happen."
The whole New Orleans experience was something out of a dream for Brown and his family.
"We were at the Super Bowl," Stella McKelvey, Omar's mother said. "This has been an incredible journey for Omar, and all of us. It had its ups and downs and it was a difficult journey, but this shows that God is good. Omar's story is God's story …
"God is at work here."
Brown's story plays out like an improbable Disney movie script: Local high school football star after a memorable career at a mid-level college football program awaits the next opportunity. He attends all the football combines and lets his skills and resume do the talking.
The draft comes and goes, and then Brown hears from the Baltimore Ravens. There's an invitation on the table to come to summer training camp with a shot to make the team.
Brown jumps at the opportunity.
"That's all it's about," he said. "Taking advantage of the opportunities made available to you while doing the hard work. You work hard, you do what's expected of you, and when the opportunities arise, you take advantage of them."
Brown made the most of the training camp invitation opportunity, earning a spot on the Ravens' practice squad as the regular season began in September.
He saw action in preseason and caught the attention of several coaches and even players.
Ravens defensive back Ed Reed said Brown reminded him of himself during his younger days, and that's a big time compliment coming from a future NFL Hall of Famer.
Brown spent the season's first three months on the practice squad, and in November, because of a rash of injuries among the Ravens' defensive secondary, another opportunity presented itself.
And Brown took full advantage of it.
"I was activated in November and made the most of my opportunity," he said. "I remained active throughout the playoffs and you saw where we wound up. Joe (Flacco) made some unbelievable plays out there."
Brown didn't get to play in the Super Bowl, but he was on the sidelines, and held the Vince Lombardi Trophy.
Not many former Berkeley Stags can say that.
For the spring, Brown is back to work, living in Baltimore, preparing for training camp.
"There are no guarantees," he said. "Every day you're fighting for your job. Every day you have to go out and work like it's your last day here."
Brown said he will get his Super Bowl ring sometime in April.
"This is something they can't ever take away from me," he said. "I am a Super Bowl Champion. I can't believe it, but with hard work and dedication and solid work ethic, anything can happen… anything."
Omar Brown, Super Bowl Champion.
He wears the clothes nicely.
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The Hatters, who hadn't played since opening the season splitting a pair of matches against #24 Florida State and Florida A&M back on Jan. 19, came out ready to go on Sunday. Stetson won the first two doubles matchups to take an early 1-0 lead.
"What a great team effort from our players today," Stetson Director of Tennis Pierre Pilote said. "I told our team that we needed to start strong in doubles, and we did. The doubles point became the difference in the match."
Senior Diana Bukajeva and freshman Isabella Fernandez cruised to a 6-1 victory over Nina Nagode and Tina Mohoric at number one doubles. Senior Lindsey Cable and sophomore Eveline Lepinay than gave the Hatters the point with a 6-3 win over Carlotta Orlando and Giulietta Boha at number three doubles.
After sophomore Andrea Crespo lost at number two singles to tie the match 1-1, sophomore Cari Berry and senior MayaBlue Stauffer-MacDowell won at number six and four, respectively, to give Stetson a 3-1 advantage. Berry won 6-0, 7-5 against Valentina Briceno, while Stauffer-MacDowell earned a 6-1, 4-6, 1-0 (10-4) victory against Mohoric.
Fernandez and freshman Carolina Meregalli lost in straight sets at number three and five, respectively, allowing FIU to tie the match up again at 3-3. It then came down to Bukajeva against Orlando at number one singles.
Bukajeva won her first set 6-4, but then fell behind 5-0 to start set two. With every other matched finished, and all of her teammates lining the court cheering her on, Bukajeva rallied. The senior won seven straight games to win the second set 7-5 and give Stetson the triumph. It marked Bukajeva's eighth straight singles win, dating back to last season.
"It is extremely rare to have a player come back from 0-5 down to win 7-5, but to see it at #1 is unheard of," Pilote said. "Diana never doubted that she could come back. She is such a fighter."
Stetson improved to 2-1 with the win, while FIU fell to 1-1 on the season. The Hatters will next play at Embry-Riddle on Sunday, Feb. 16 at 12:00 p.m.
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LEWISTOWN - Eleanor M. Toner, 93, formerly of 7 Goss Terrace, Lewistown, died at 6:34 p.m. Saturday, Sept. 14, 2013, at Golden LivingCenter - William Penn.
Born on Sept. 29, 1919, in Beaver Springs, she was a daughter of the late Arbor D. and Annie (Markley) Bair.
In addition to her parents, she was preceded in death by her husband, Charles E. Toner, on Oct. 10, 1972, one sister, Josephine Shepherd, and a son-in-law, John Powell.
Eleanor is survived by: two daughters, Darlis Smiley and husband, Josef, and Linda Powell, both of Lewistown; two grandchildren, Tracy Taylor and John Powell Jr., and wife, Sherri, both of Lewistown; five great-grandchildren; three great-great-grand children; and half brother Neil Bair, of Burnham.
Earlier in life, she worked as a waitress at Green Gables, Tony's Cottage Inn, and then as a sales lady at Town & Country for eight years.
She belonged to Church of Christ and the Lewistown Hospital Auxiliary.
Graveside services will be held at 10 a.m. Wednesday, Sept. 18, 2013, at Juniata Memorial Park with the Rev. John Walters officiating.
A viewing will be held from 6 to 8 p.m. on Tuesday, Sept. 17, 2013, at Heller-Hoenstine Funeral Homes, Inc., Woodlawn, 200 N. Main St., Lewistown.
In lieu of flowers, the family requests that memorial contributions be made to Golden LivingCenter - William Penn, 163 Summit Drive, Lewistown, PA 17044.
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He is soo sweet. He has the cutest smile, his whole face lights up!!!ReplyDelete
My little guy is 4 1/2 months now.He got his two bottom teeth in a couple of weeks ago. All my boys get their first two teeth in by 4 months, and I think he is starting on some new ones soon. I cant wait until Roman can say da da and ma ma! Your little guy is so adorable, we are so lucky to have our little babies!!ReplyDelete
BTW.. I have had so many compliments on those froggy robeez I bought from you, they are too cute!
Thank you! I have to agree!! Everytime he smiles I can't imagine life without him!ReplyDelete
trina- I loved those robeez! Gray has the red ones with monkeys now- they are so cute!ReplyDelete
Noah didn't get teeth until about 7 months, Carter got them at 2 months!! (but he was my almost 10 pounder at birth!) and Gray is just going along at his own pace!


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13 Awesome Photos That Will Make You Happy to Be Alive
Sometimes you need to take a few moments to wipe away the world's grime from your eyes and refill your soul with anything that brings you joy. We've got a few options for a quick happiness reload:
1. Pudding.
2. Roll around in fresh puppies.
3. Bum rush your eye holes with as many joyful images as you can find.
I'm all out of pudding and puppies, so here you go.
#13. The Friendliest Shark
I know what you're thinking: "Do we already have concept art for the sequel to Finding Nemo? Is this Bruce the Shark's step-brother who only wants to study aboriginal pottery? Is his name Nigel?" The answer to all of those terrible questions is no. Pixar isn't the only one that can transform the pool hustler of the sea into a creature so eager to please that you assume he's hiding fresh daisies behind his back. Mother Nature can pull that trick as well. Which is weird, because every time I see a picture of a shark, his eyes are filled with the darkness of a million years and his mouth beckons as a cave to hell ... but the really bad hell. The one where you're stabbed by rows and rows of Satan's horns before you meet Lucifer himself. And Lucifer is played by Jon Lovitz, and he's so hammy that you want to gag.
This shark, on the other hand, looks like he plays the drums for an underwater pop group called the Neptunes.
When Jabberjaw wants to take a 20-minute drum solo, nobody says a damn word.
This shark wants to see the picture that you just took of him, then he squees and asks you to tag him on Facebook. Here's his best friend, Angela.
markaeiou via The Featured Creature
"I'm Dory's older sister who is addicted to plastic surgery."
#12. Little Girl Loves Life
This is a picture of me, taken last week.
OK, you got me. I've never been caught dancing to Southern street musician Scruffy Matthew McConaughey, but we've all had moments when we hear or see someone being astounding and we want to stop and listen, just to be a part of that moment. And if you haven't, shame on you, because you're terrible.
There are four people in the picture, but two of them are in their own world. Scratch that -- two are in the same universe, one of them is on Planet Joyful, and she revolves around the sun known as Ecstasy. I don't know if the girl is performing with Mr. Glad Rags or if she was just a passerby who got swept up in his jangly melodies. Judging how she's dressed versus how he's dressed, plus the gaggle of loaded baby diapers at his feet, I'm thinking it's the latter. But who knows? Maybe they're the Bojangles and Shirley Temple of the street musician world. All I know is that for one brief shining moment, a little girl was so happy that she gave the whole universe a hug. And we accepted it.
#11. One Lion Wearing Another for a Hat
What do you do when you're looking for your spirit animal hat and your spirit animal is yourself? This lion has figured out the answer: scoop up another of your kind and plop that sucker on your head. He can't help it that his hat is backward; there aren't any mirrors on the savannah. Or maybe he's wearing it backward on purpose, because he's a Kriss Kross fan. Either that or they're playing hide and seek and the lioness is totally winning.
#10. Chimp and Girl Are Best Friends
Before parents got wise to the beauty of natural outside portraiture, whole families would load into the shaggy station wagon and drive to the shaggy portrait studio, prop up their kids with shag-covered boxes, and get their pictures taken. Which is presumably what happened here, only instead of filling up the frame with awkward shaggy-haired children, the photographer had the blessing of snapping this little girl and her brother, the chimp. Let's call him Mr. Ricky. Mr. Ricky is missing teeth, because he's a child and he's adorable. I've spent my whole life trying to convey "happy" and "carefree" and "It's fine, everything's fine" in pictures, and I'm pretty sure I'll never come close to these two. And although I know that I'm loved unconditionally by a handful of people, I don't think they'll ever love me with the innocence and intensity of Mr. Ricky and Lisa Jo. That's right. I named her Lisa Jo. Do you have a better name?
Little known fact: Immediately after this picture was taken, the entire universe was sucked into the gaping gullet that is this woman's mouth, and that's where we all live now -- inside the guts of an aging Miss Teen USA winner. She took it all; the sun, the moon, the stars, our hopes and fears and faith. She even got the photographer and all the film processing equipment, and that's why we have this picture today. Sorry for the bummer. Or maybe it's not a bummer, depending on how you feel about living inside a Miss Teen USA winner. As for me and mine, we seem to be doing alright, so please don't break out the ipecac.
#8. Dial*A*Llama
On a scale of "not one bit" to "desperately," how badly do you need a llama RIGHT NOW? Do you need someone to carry your camping supplies up a mountain ... NOW? Are you cold and in need of llama fiber for a new coat or mittens ... NOW? Are you blue and need a laugh ... NOW? Can't go wrong with a llama.
Funny Pics
"I even poop all in one place for easy cleanup!"
There comes a point in every man's life when a camel or alpaca or truck or backpack won't do. When that day comes, Dial*A*Llama has got your back, or hump, as the case may be. (I'm imagining llamas are using Dial*A*Llama as an escort service.)
#7. Sammy and Martin
There are only two occasions when I hunch up my shoulders like Martin Luther King Jr. is doing in this picture: one, when I don't know the answer to a funny question, and two, when someone is tickling me. So Sammy Davis Jr. is either asking MLK "When is a door not a door?" or digging his jazzy fingers into Martin's ribs out of the frame. In either case, Martin looks like a kid caught in a slightly uncomfortable, but in an OK way situation, which is refreshing. It's like seeing Steve McQueen squirt milk out of his nose or the Fonz just being the Fonz.
Also, when it's ajar!!!!


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BROADWAY IDIOT (2013) 80m
Director: Doug Hamilton
Country: USA
Doug Hamilton's film started out as a behind-the-scenes look at the idiots that thought a punk rock record could translate to a Broadway musical—Green Day's Billie Joe Armstrong and Spring Awakening director Michael Mayer. But the film becomes much more than that; it chronicles Billie Joe's growing engagement with the creative process of this new, for him, art form. Hamilton shows the journey including a peek at pre-teen Billie Joe, live concert footage and his Broadway debut.
Director Doug Hamilton and producer Ira Pittelman in person for Q&A!
Monday, July 29 at 8:45pm
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Penang UMNO Has Reached a Point of No Return
Ahmad has remained defiant and worse he has repeated what he said about Chinese Malaysians in his press conference. Ahmad said that he was referring to pre-independence reality when he said that Chinese Malaysians were mere squatters.
My question to him is why must he, a leader of the 21st century, still insist on looking backward and not forward? This is the main problem with a number of UMNO leaders. Why keep insisting on the pre-independence social contract when a society and a nation is supposed to develop and to grow closer?
What is there for Ahmad to achieve if he keep going back to the past and in the process keep our communities apart and divided with his sharp and insensitive remarks?
In his press conference, as usual, Ahmad blamed the press for misinterpreting his remarks. I heard what he said in his press conference. I do not doubt what was reported by the media. Ahmad should not try to find scapegoats for his own folly and arrogance. He has refused to apologize and even demanded that reporters are the ones who should make an apology for distorting his speech.
Whatever the context, reminding the Chinese community that their forefathers were squatters in this country is totally unacceptable. Ahmad should know better. Many Malaysians can trace their roots back to somewhere around the region. We are a mercantile society.
If UMNO leadership does not take a stern action against Ahmad, I am afraid the point of no return has been breached.
To the MCA and Gerakan leaders who had earlier accepted Najib's apology, this press conference is slap on their face.
Ahmad's press conference was attended by leaders of all 13 divisions in Penang. At the conference, there were many more Ahmad Ismails.
Reported in Malaysiakini.com, other local Umno leaders such as state secretary Azhar Ibrahim, Bukit Mertajam division leader Musa Syeikh Fadzir and Bayan Baru division chief Mohd Zain Omar joined Ahmad to rap virtually everyone who objected to Ahmad's rally speech.
Azhar blasted the relevant Sin Chiew Daily reporter as 'idiotic' saying that "the reporter and the newspaper should be held responsible for inciting racial hatred and conflict."
Ahmad called Gerakan acting president Dr Koh Tsu Koon as a "great liar and opportunist", and said Gerakan can always "get out from Barisan Nasional."He even claimed BN would not have lost in Penang in the last general election if not for the incompetency of former Chief Minister Koh and Gerakan.
"We fully back Ahmad on this issue," Musa told newsmen, rejecting outrightly Najib's apologetic gesture.
But the most intimidating threat came from former Bayan Lepas assemblyperson Mohd Zain, who warned "non-Malays to be extra careful with their deeds and words."
"Don't disturb and push the Malays too much. Don't think we are quiet."We can retaliate very aggressively," he thumped home amidst applause from supporters.
Mohd Zain rapped Chinese and Hindus of "blowing up Muslim conversion issues out of proportion while at the same time, being quiet on Christianity conversion issues.
In another report from Malaysiakini.com, Gerakan Vice-President and Bukit Bendera Chairman Teng Hock Nan has today issued an ultimatum - that the Gerakan Bukit Bendera division will "disassociate itself" from the Umno division chief if he continues to refuse to apologise for his allegedly racist remarks.
I am afraid now the party has to disassociate itself from the whole of Penang UMNO.
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The sign is very clear, when UMNO is bankrupt of new ideas, they have and will always fall back on racial slur.
Umno's track record speaks for itself, this is the reason why Malaysian wants CHANGE starting from the last Tsunami.
The only reason and modus operandi is to stir racial sentiments to create a state of emergency so that they can cling on to power.
With this, I pray and hope that other Malaysian citizen will stay calm, cool and compose not to fall into the trap now set by Penang Umno. Let the law of gravity take its course.
Penang Kia
- Abi Ayyub said...
Somebody is trying to rekindle something when they lose, since they do not get the support, they might be trying to make things worst by their words, and hopefully something nasty happen and voila .... another 69 ???
Hope not but everybody beware and be careful, there are indirect warning by everybody.
The real malays will not do this, only those that does not understand what being a malay is all about, but worst thing, they are not true muslim.
If at anytime, blame the person not the race and definitely not the religion.
- romerz said...
These are a bunch of racist who no longer have the ability to dip their hands into Penang coffers hence their undignified retaliation.
Yes the point of no return has been breached!
If UMNO fails to take stern action on this latest arrogant racism, I'll be moving left of center in so far as my politics is concerned!
Not only that, I will use all my persuasive powers to convince as many as possible to do likewise!
Ahmad Ismail's press conference has finally put the last nail into UMNO's coffin.
The days of the racist is now gone forever. Permatang Pauh will be recorded in Malaysia history to be the Waterloo of UMNO.
MCA, GERAKAN and the other non-UMNO Barisan parties should, if they still have the guts, leave Barisan Nasional once and for all.
That will leave UMNO alone - as a racist party and will be thrown into the dungeons of history.
Goodbye BN - the end.
I believe this racist Ahmad Ismail is trying to stir up a hornets' nest as UMNO is going to sink like the titanic ship.He must have the solid support from leaders of UMNO or maybe,the whole episode of Najib and Abdullah apologising to the Chinese is "sandiwara"
"Ahmad Ismail's press conference has finally put the last nail into UMNO's coffin."
To be fair, let's give credit to Ahmad who is only being sincere in sticking to his belief. As a leader in UMNO, he cannot go against the party's tenet of belief - as demonstrated during their ceramahs and the BTN indoctrination sessions.
Since BTN has operated for many years, I believe there is a sizeable group of people who also believes in such doctrine. Hence, UMNO will continue to remain as a threat.
Let us use this opportunity to encourage colour blind professionals to 'jump'. Also, educate the real bumis that their piece of cake is being shared by the growing number of 'imported bumis'.
Gerakan should not only disassociate itself from the whole of Penang UMNO but also the national UMNO. There is only ONE UMNO! The fact that other UMNO divisions in Penang supporting Ahmand Ismail reaffirms our views that there are many racists within UMNO. I am not surprised that other UMNO division elsewhere would lend their support if 'they are called upon'.
Going back to history, we should be aware that most of our ancestors were coming from INDONESIA, CHINA and INDIA. In fact, many of our royal families are hailed from Jawa or have their root in Indonesia. Regardless of the history, we had become Malaysians after gaining independence from British.
MCA and Gerakan should leave BN and let UMNO have their days numbered.
Ahmad idiot has a very shallow mind..oops..maybe brainless. Can't really fault a spoilt kid to behave like that.
Message to Chinese component parties. UMNO have played the Chinese for too long, ans Ahmad Ismail's remarks speaks loudly. LEAVE BN OR THE CHINESE WILL LEAVE YOU!!!
- Justin Choo said...
He is a Warlord of Penang UMNO.
Please read my blog, today's post " The Warlord".
- Justin Choo said...
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This sleepy head is beyond redemption. He is worst than a moron!!
- GobloKing said...
I am going to gooleearth that retard all the countries populated by his so-called "squatters" ie the chinese so that he won't make the mistake of going there & "defiling" himself
He will find there is not even a hole left in the ground on which no Chinese has trodden ...or where they have not done their biz (definition of biz very varied here)
I am not implying that the chinese are so formidable, but he should know that even dogs when pushed to the wall will fight back
And I am 1 big BITCH!
- kulitpisang said...
UMNO tak Rasis!
Ketua UMNO Bahagian Bukit Bendera, Datuk Ahmad Ismail, didakwa berkata, orang Cina adalah pendatang yang menumpang di Malaysia dan oleh itu mereka boleh mengharap mendapat layanan sama rata.
Ini di petik dari laporan www.malaysiakini.com. Kenyataan ini telah di bantah oleh UMNO sendiri sebagai bukan suara UMNO. Pemuda DAP (Dapsy) telah membuat laporan polis di Perak, Selangor, Melaka, Pulau Pinang dan Negeri Sembilan. Tindakan membuat laporan polis juga di buat oleh MCA dan Gerakan.
Datuk Ahmad Ismail memberitahu bahawa beliau tidak akan memohon maaf walaupun Timbalan Perdana Menteri, Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak telah berbuat demikian.
Sebaliknya, kata Ahmad, beliau tidak melakukan sebarang kesalahan.
Ini merupakan reaksi pertamanya sejak tercetusnya kontroversi itu minggu lalu, ekoran ceramahnya sewaktu pilihanraya kecil parlimen Permatang Pauh yang didakwa telah menyinggung perasaan masyarakat Cina negara ini.
Menurut Ahmad, beliau tidak berkata atau melakukan sebarang kesalahan, dan oleh itu, tiada sebab baginya untuk memohon maaf.
Katanya, beliau akan mengadakan sidang akhbar khas di bangunan Umno Pulau Pinang Sabtu ini berhubung isu tersebut.
Sidang akhbar itu akan diadakan selepas mesyuarat badan perhubungan Umno negeri yang akan dipengerusikan oleh Perdana Menteri, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.
Sambil menafikan bahawa kenyataannya itu berbaur perkauman, Ahmad berkata, beliau berkawan dengan orang Cina dan India sejak kecil lagi.
Sehubungan itu, katanya, beliau tidak pernah dan tidak akan menjadi seorang yang bersifat perkauman.
Ahmad turut mengecam laporan media yang menuduh beliau mengelak daripada bertemu dengan wartawan dan jurugambar yang menunggunya di luar balai polis Seberang Perai Pusat di Bandar Baru Perda sejak dua hari lalu.
"Saya tidak minta mereka tunggu. Jadi mengapa mereka tuduh saya lari dari mereka?" soalnya.
Ahmad telah memberi kenyataan di balai polis negeri di Georgetown malam tadi, ekoran beberapa laporan yang telah dibuat terhadapnya.
Kes tersebut disiasat mengikut Seksyen 4 (1)(B) Akta Hasutan 1948 yang membawa hukuman denda tidak lebih RM5,000 dan penjara minimum tiga tahun, atau kedua-duanya sekali.
The reason why Ahmad Ismail is so furious until he issue such a statement is because Koh Tsu Khoon, being the BN Chairman for Penang, failed miserably in the March 08 election and lost control of Penang state.
There goes the PORR, Monorail, PGCC and 2nd Penang bridge projects where UMNO goons stands to reap profit from these projects.
Imagine, multi millions worth of easy money escape your pocket because a change of gahmen ...
Ahmad Ismail is not racist, but corrupted, and he blamed Koh Tsu Khoon for all his missed 'business' opportunities
Tonite's newsflash of the defiant Azhar Ismail upping the ante by demanding the sacking of Gerakan from BN & his supporters tearing up a component party's chief's picture shows the collective arrogance accumulated all this years of being in power.
This is clearly a sign of a party on its death throes thanks to the antics of AHmad Ismail & its goons.


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Four years ago, the NHGRI launched an initiative to fund innovative research aimed at sequencing the entire human genome for $1,000. This would represent a tremendous savings from the current price of several hundred thousand dollars. Hagan Bayley, Ph.D., an expert in membrane protein engineering at the University of Oxford in U.K., was one of the grant recipients.
Dr. Bayley founded Oxford NanoLabs in 2005 to develop a technology that identifies individual molecules using nanopores. One use of this platform is to detect nucleotides as DNA strands are pulled through nanopores. This technology also can be applied to rapid, cost-effective, and highly sensitive kits for diagnosing human diseases and bioterrorism agents.
In May 2008, the company changed its name to Oxford Nanopore Technologies. "When we set the company up three years ago, many people did not know what a nanopore was," says Spike Willcocks, Ph.D., director of business development. Now the potential of nanopores, which form naturally in some proteins, has become better known to people working in DNA sequencing and genomics.
The first reference human genome was sequenced in 2003 by the Sanger chain termination method. This complex process requires DNA amplification, fluorescent tags, and capillary electrophoresis to identify bases. The fixed costs of the labor, reagents, and analytical instruments limit the usefulness of this method for screening large numbers of people to make personalized medicine affordable.
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Protein nanopores occur naturally in proteins secreted by bacteria, such as alpha-hemolysin made by Staphylococcus. Dr. Bayley's academic laboratory investigates how alpha-hemolysin lodges in a cell membrane, where it forms a barrel-shaped nanotube made up of intertwining polypeptide strands. Bacteria make nanopores to punch holes in cell membranes to obtain nutrients from or secrete toxins into cells. The hole passing through the middle of the tube is 1 to 2 nanometers in diameter. Once formed, the nanopores are remarkably stable and withstand high heat.
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Dr. Bayley applies the technology to recognize individual DNA bases by changes in electrical current as they pass through the opening of the nanopore and transiently bind to the inner surface. Because DNA bases are negatively charged, they can be electrophoretically driven through the nanopore structure. As they pass through, the bases block the flow of ionic charges, resulting in changes in electrical conductance. Each base generates different electrical currents, providing "a highly exquisite measurement of biological molecules," Dr. Willcocks comments.
Potentially, the linear sequence of DNA can be measured from the sequential changes in conductance as a DNA strand moves through a nanopore. This type of single-molecule sequencing is reagent-free and rapid. "If you can move from chemical-based measurements to physical-based measurements, you can greatly reduce costs," Dr. Willcocks reports.
The potential advantage of nanopores is that they can provide measurement of DNA at the molecular level without the time and cost of reagents, amplification, and labeling. The only processing step needed is the extraction of pure DNA from biological samples, and several companies sell kits for doing this.
DNA, however, moves naturally through nanopores incredibly fast—one million bases per second. Consequently, the resolution is poor, and single bases cannot be detected. Scientists at Oxford Nanopore Technologies are working to overcome this problem by using exonucleases bound to nanopores to slow the flow of DNA and better identify the four bases in DNA.
Exonucleases chop DNA into individual bases. When coupled with nanopores, exonucleases "can grab DNA and clip off one base at a time before passing through the detector," Dr. Willcocks explains. Integrating exonucleases into nanopores reduces the flow to a rate of 10 to 100 bases per second. So far, scientists at the company have successfully coupled exonucleases to protein nanopores. "No one else has done this to date," according to Dr. Willcocks.
Although using exonnucleases optimizes base detection, a single nanopore would be much too slow for sequencing work. So the research team is creating arrays of nanopores that work in parallel to detect thousands of bases per second. They place protein nanopores in lipid bilayers, set in individual microwells on a silicon chip, with electrodes placed across the bilayer. The technology has been scaled up to arrays containing more than 100 microwells running in parallel. "In theory, we should be able to combine thousands of nanopores together in a powerful platform," Dr. Willcocks points out.
The same nanopore technology can be applied to the highly sensitive detection of a wide range of molecules including infectious agents and biomarkers for disease. Oxford Nanopore Technologies is in the early stage of developing a hand-held device to rapidly test for influenza including the lethal H5N1 strain. The nanopores are engineered to bind a complementary strand of RNA from the influenza virus, and the binding site can be designed to specifically detect particular mutants.
Another nanoprobe is being designed for Alzheimer's disease, based on a newly discovered biomarker associated with neurodegeneration. In addition, the company received funding from the U.K. government to develop an anthrax detection kit based on DNA or protein biomarkers. "The nanopore platform can be readily applied to many different biomarkers," notes Dr. Willcocks.
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Though little sister Elizabeth Olsen is engaged at the same time as Mary-Kate, she has already nixed fans' dreams of a double wedding.
"No, I just told her she gets to pick a date first!" Elizabeth, 25, told Marie Claire U.K. in their June issue, on newsstands now.
The Godzilla star, who is set to tie the knot with actor Boyd Holbrook, said she's feeling "relaxed" about the nuptials, calling wedding planning "just like throwing a party to celebrate life."
As for raising a family while famous, Olsen said she looks to the twins, who became household names as toddlers on Full House and spent their teen years building an empire before retreating from the spotlight to pursue fashion careers.
"Because my sisters were so grounded, it helped me be grounded. They never got caught up in things," she said. "I did live a charmed life. We got to go on vacations and lived in nice homes, and I got to play club volleyball and ballet, which you don't realize as a kid are expensive. My mom would say things like, 'Lizzie, we are not Rockefellers!' That put things into perspective."
Whenever she and Holbrook have children, Olsen intends on staying behind the camera as a working mom.
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Called "the flour of Cities all," London has long been understood through the poetry it has inspired. Now poet Mark Ford has assembled the most capacious and wide-ranging anthology of poems about London to date, from Chaucer to Wordsworth to the present day, providing a chronological tour of urban life and of English literature. Nearly all of the major poets of British literature have left some poetic record of London: Chaucer, Spenser, Shakespeare, Donne, Milton, Dryden, Pope, Johnson, Wordsworth, Keats, Byron, and T. S. Eliot. Ford goes well beyond these figures, however, to gather significant verse of all kinds, from Jacobean city comedies to nursery rhymes, from topical satire to anonymous ballads. The result is a cultural history of the city in verse, one that represents all classes of London's population over some seven centuries, mingling the high and low, the elegant and the salacious, the courtly and the street smart. Many of the poems respond to large events in the city's history - the beheading of Charles I, the Great Fire, the Blitz - but the majority reflect the quieter routines and anxieties of everyday life through the centuries. Ford's selections are arranged chronologically, thus preserving a sense of the strata of the capital's history. An introductory essay by the poet explores in detail the cultural, political, and aesthetic significance of the verse inspired by this great city. The result is a volume as rich and vibrant and diverse as London itself.show more
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A magnificent collection revealing [London] in all its splendor and squalor. -- Mark Sanderson Sunday Telegraph 20120617 Here is a rich, poetic evocation of [London] by one who is himself a learned poet; and dull would he be of soul who did not find something to enjoy in its voluminous bulk. -- A. N. Wilson Evening Standard 20120621 No other city so inspires and infuriates poets like London... Spanning seven centuries, this fascinating new collection features Wordsworth and Pope alongside lesser-known and even anonymous poets, all of them moved by the city's labyrinthine streets and smells, sounds and textures. The volume includes an outbreak of plague, the Great Fire, the deposition of Charles I, the crowning of Charles II, two world wars and the introduction of the London Underground, all of it conveyed through the prism of poetry. It makes for a thrilling read... A wonderfully eclectic collection, which sees ballads and poems from popular pamphlets jostling alongside more meditative, contemplative works. There are many unknown gems, such as a rare poem by George Eliot ('In a London Drawingroom') and work from the under-appreciated Stevie Smith... Poems by Thorn Gunn and W.S. Graham, and the contemporary work of Seamus Heaney and Lavinia Greenlaw, prove that London is still a rich source of material. Both a history of London and a clever guide to some overlooked works, this volume is as unexpected and as dazzling as the metropolis itself. The Economist 20120630 [A] wonderful and ceaselessly evocative anthology of London verse. All the way from 14th-century William Langland and Chaucer to the present, we hear echoes, and see reflections... This vast volume is a guide to the city's authentically enduring soul. -- Sinclair McKay Daily Telegraph 20120630 [A] seething, clamorous megalopolis of a London anthology... I have never come across a London anthology (or any warehouse of urban poetry) as rich, as bold, as multifarious as this... Olympic visitors should lug this brick back home for a pungent souvenir of the original 'maximum city' in all its grot and grandeur. -- Boyd Tonkin The Independent 20120720 Traces an enchanting journey round the canonical to the quirky, from love lyrics, the cries of old London, ballads and limericks to satirical verses and epics. -- Juliet Gardiner History Today 20120801 This anthology is as much about how history is made by words, and how we remember, as it is about the poetry. If it is a history it is unapologetically composed of shards and fragments. But it is possible to glimpse something like a spirit of place; the splendid flashing temperament of a wild animal. For those unwilling to detach history from narrative, this great sprawling collection offers multifarious delights on their own terms. -- Felicity Plunkett Weekend Australian 20120721 [A] superb book dedicated to Londons both past and present... London: A History in Verse, edited by Mark Ford, will engage not only poetry lovers but anyone interested in a nearly seven-century poetic record of how London's citizens and visitors have interpretively framed this city... This ample and handsomely produced book won't leave any readers feeling cheated. Ford takes care to reflect a contemporary London that is a global city and a postcolonial capital as well. Instead of a monotone 'London English,' different demotic voices reflect today's cosmopolis. -- Brett Foster Books & Culture 20120727 This elegant selection of poets begins in the 14th century and ends in the present day. -- Nick Owchar Los Angeles Times 20120729 [A] gold [medal] goes to London: A History in Verse, edited by Mark Ford. This beautifully produced, doorstop of an anthology runs from the 14th century to the present day. -- Michael Murray-Fennell Country Life 20120725 Lavish and intensely enjoyable... Ford has searched the highways and back-alleys of the poetry world and brought together an anthology so great in scope and inviting in scale that it thunderously surpasses anything similar ever attempted... This is a volume to keep, to savor, and to re-savor. -- Steve Donoghue Open Letters Monthly 20120801 [A] superb anthology... Ford's collection shows the development of particular city-sensibilities: the hedonistic, jaded, nostalgic, urbane. Oppositions are played out as much between the classic dichotomies of country and town as by London's own inbuilt contradictions (wealth and poverty, pleasure and pain, fear and wonder)... By so assiduously unpacking the metropolis, Ford's anthology also stumps for poetry itself: as it leaps from historical events to the private dramas playing out in postal districts all over the 'great mean city,' the art asserts its primacy as a portal to the full range of the human. -- Nick Laird New York Review of Books 20120927 What's on offer is an exercise is historical-cultural geography. The experience of reading it is much like that of stepping out of King's Cross station and strolling the city's streets. Walk long enough, read deeply enough, and you'll be immersed in impressions of beauty, grime, humor, violence-often simultaneously. If this book succeeds as a celebration, it is only insofar as it admits everything, like the city itself. -- Tobias Peterson PopMatters 20120925 A rich anthology of poems and selections from poems that describe, evoke, and trace the history of London, beginning with the 14th-century Middle English poets Gower, Langland, and Chaucer, and continuing on to current ones such as Tom Chivers and Ahren Warners. In addition to the usual suspects such as Swift, Blake, and Eliot, there is a wide and deep diversity of poets, crossing national, class, and ethnic boundaries in order to express the full response to London. Following a chronological arrangement, Ford includes work commemorating the city's various defining historical events from insurrections to the Great Plague and Fire, the Industrial Revolution, the Blitz, the Swinging Sixties, and terrorist bombings... A fine anthology aimed not just at poetry specialists but for the general reader who loves both London and verse anthologies. -- T. L. Cooksey Library Journal 20121001 The book is as full of mayhem and color as the city itself... Ford's book packs in as much lore, as much fact and legend, as much gala occasion, as much glitter and cloud, gossip and prayer, sound and sight and smell as it's possible to imagine... Ford offers a wonderful sampler of British poets-as well as some of the many American ones who have washed up here, and written what they found. The titles of poems tantalize with place-names, stacking up like gold medals... Everyone's a winner, and London's finest moments are all here, for anyone who wants to look. -- Katy Evans-Bush Los Angeles Review of Books 20121014show more
About Mark Ford
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Would you pay for access to an ad free version of Free Software Magazine?
Let's try again
Okay so we had a false start. We asked the wrong question. Basically, what we want to is:
If we made an ad free version of FSM available that you had to pay a reasonable price to access, would you a) pay for the ad free version, or b) pay nothing and put up with the ads?
Don't be alarmed we will never take away your ability to access our content for free. The ad free version will only be optional.
Also let us know what you think a reasonable yearly rate would be (don't forget it goes to keeping this project going and paying for more great content) and why you voted the way you did.
maximum amount to pay $24.00 yearly
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To Pay or Not to Pay.....
I love the idea of an online magazine, but unfortunately, my internet is sometimes limited, and I can not read everything online. If you asked me if I would pay for a subscription to a print copy of the magazine then my answer would be a resounding YES!!
Being fairly new to Open Source Software, I read as much about it as I possibly can and so far I have found a wealth of knowledge in your magazine, but unfortunately I can't bring it to my favorite reading spot....
Here is an idea, how about an eReader version to download and I could at least read it on my Palm Pilot...
No Way I'll Pay!
I must admit that I loved the PDF versions of the magazine, and collected the whole set. Firefox is such an abnormal animal when it comes to printing, so I say I won't pay for an ad-free version, although I would pay for a PDF version, even WITH ads!
I completely agree, i'd pay for the PDF version easily - the HTML - eh, not a big fan, although, i do understand the reasoning...
I completely agree. I would pay for a pdf even with ads. Actually I am not even reading half the articles in the HTML version.
For a HTML Version I dont think I will pay, but I dont mind donating once in a while (with or without ads) for having such a nice magazine on FOSS.
paying 4 fsm
i could afford a little.
Add-free FSM?
We've been here before with TUX. As I see it free software doesn't appeal to advertisers.
You can't sell advertising to software companies, so that's half the potential market gone.
Many hardware companies place standard ads in loads of different magazines and on websites, they have them in html or pdf all ready to copy'n'paste, but almost all have that quaint little logo and "XYZ Ltd recommend Windows Vista". Or to put it another way, MS are paying a chunk of their advertising costs. So you can say goodbye to them too.
That leaves people selling server space, server hardware and a handful of component suppliers that might sell bits and pieces to us nerds that build our own PCs.
Obviously it's cheaper to run than TUX because you're not paying writers (I was one for a while and miss the income) but you still need to pay the bills. I think subscription is the way forward for ALL media, I'd consider paying for satellite TV if it came without adverts, but it's an uphill struggle persuading people that have come to expect things 'free' and to accept that advertising is everywhere.
Phil Thane
Yes but...
I voted yes but it depends on price of course. I think anywhere between $10 and $15 is a good price for a subscription to the PDF so maybe $5 per year for the ads free version is good.
Thing is, you know the people who buy this service would probably rarely make you $5/year by clicking ads and the numbers you'll lose in impressions will probably not even make a dent.
I reckon even at $5/year you are really just giving incentive to donate. But I reckon that's fair enough too. You guys deserve it. I think you don't get enough praise from your audience. I've been around reading for a while and, while praise for your authors is frequent, the FSM core staff (Tony et al) deserve some props and maybe a donation or two.
I personally don't need the ads-free or the pdf but I'll probably buy them anyway just to give back.
Thanks guys
No, wont pay. There are
No, wont pay.
There are plenty of other free content sites.
Yours is pretty average/mediocre.
And you dont even have PDFs.
Nobody forces you
This comment gives other people an idea of what kind of pressure we go through every single day, by email and in contents.
1) Can you give me a comprehensive list of magazines on free software that are so much better than ours? I am a very humble person. However, this kind of trolling really begs for a reaction
2) Can you tell me how many other online magazines offer PDFs? Please write a comprehensive list.
3) May I ask you why you are even on this page, if you consider us average/mediocre? May I ask you to please leave?
Thank you.
Paid? Depends...
It would probably depend on the cost to access it. But it's definitely something to look at.
let's all play nice!
I have it already :-)
I wouldn't pay because I have it already, thanks to Firefox and a personalized stylesheet that filters about 80% of the ads in all the website I visit (even yours, sorry guys :-)
Hi I am a full time student and it is hard to come up with money as it is, so that is why I say no to paying for a ad free version of this wonderful mag.
Ads Not An Issue
Personally, I don't find the ads a sufficient issue that I'd need to consider subscribing to an ad-free edition.
The advertising selected is not visually offensive, with distracting, flashing pop-ups. These type of ads would be counter-productive, anyway, when most readers have Firefox, and would promptly block such irritations.
Most of the advertising is computer oriented and I sometimes click on an interesting ad.
If readers require a pristine, ad-free page, maybe some consideration could be given towards an approach to the Bill Gates Foundation for a handout.
Nah! On second thoughts, I like the magazine just the way it already is.
By the way, only 109 readers have checked out Ciaran O'Riordan's article on IPRED2.
Laws so horribly dangerous to Free Software as IPRED2 deserve far more of our attention than that.
Please, read the article, and the links describing the extent of the danger, and, at least, sign the petition.
The vote is next week, so time is short.
paying for non-ads
I visit this site all the time -- it's not quite my field but i find it interesting. My experience in soliciting microdonations and funding from users is that they will not pay to remove ads on a website. The ads don't bother people enough. I think you would have better luck running a fundraiser to solicit donations for the site if money needs to be raised. Speaking personally i would be more likely to donate than pay to remove ads.
Consider it a donation then
Well, if such a product existed, readers could "donate" by buying the ads-free service. That way they are rewarded for their donation.
We haven't had much luck with donations so far. And we don't really want to hassle people for hand-outs. We'd rather give people something for their money...other than the info in the articles, which should be free in our opinion, because we believe all information should be free as in freedom.
We'd rather give people something for their money...
Maybe the most valuable thing you can (afford to) give your readers is the warm and fuzzy feeling of them having helped a good cause, like your truly free (as in freedom) magazine. Maybe people would rather pay for that feeling than for the removal of some cheap ads. It works for Wikipedia...
voted "maybe"
The truth is that in my present situation, I would just put up with the ads. I don't find them that objectionable, especially since I understand that they are what pays for the content.
However, if I were in a better position financially, I might well decide to join, primarily because I would feel it would be promoting a socially beneficial business.
However, I would be very turned off by a project that can't decide whether it's commercial ("pay us what you think we're worth to you") or non-profit ("pay us what we need to provide a public good, because it's the 'right thing to do'"). You can't simultaneously serve the profit motive and be a charity cause. That's one reason why it matters that you "get something" in exchange for your subscription -- it establishes a healthier, non-obligatory relationship.
One major major reason to have a "pay for no ads" service is that it shuts up the nay-sayers who object to the ads. "If they don't like 'em, they can pay to remove 'em." Then they're out of your hair (or at least, nobody listens to them).
What about PDFs?
First you take out the free PDF version.
Now you want payment?
Gosh! FSM was the most favourite mag that I used to read regularly. Now I may need to reconsider my viewpoints regarding FSM
Kudos to all the Good Work you've done. I hope the same in future....
Best Wishes!
Mahesh Aravind
What are you on about?
They took away something that was free to you but was costing them.
Now they are asking if people would be willing to pay to have access to the site with no ads. They are not saying they will take away the site if you don't pay.
I'm sure if you do stop reading something you are getting for free it won't bother anyone.
ads ? what ads ?
go ahead - adblocker's free :)
I like the idea
I have been reading FSM for a while and I like it. And, while I appreciate that you need to host advertising to keep this project going, I do find ads annoying.
At home, I can get rid of most (not all) of the ads with Firefox but I do feel I am depriving good people of their income when I do so. And, when I read your articles at work, where I'm stuck with IE, I have to see these ads anyway.
Now, if you do implement this idea, I will have even more incentive to donate to this worthy cause (which I've been meaning to do anyway) and I'll be rewarded with not having to see ads at work or at home.
Keep up the good work guys!
Don't care about ads - CARE ABOUT PRINTING
I really don't care about the ads. In fact I kind of like them because I learn about new stuff that is available and I might want some day.
What I do care about is the ability to print the articles. After the PDF fiasco a "print format" option was available, but now it's gone again. I just don't understand why this seems to be so hard to grasp given all the comments - people need the ability to print the articles for offline reading!
Without the ability to print there are lots of folks who will never see the ads because they just won't visit.
The printer friendly version is coming back
The printer friendly version was only taken away because we upgraded to Drupal 5 and had to reimplement some of the features we had from the previous version.
There were, in the upgrade, issues to deal with that range from slightly more- to far more important than the printer friendly functionality. We are working through those issues and will bring back that functionality in due course.
We would appreciate your patience and understanding during this time.
This is good news
It's nice to know why the printer-friendly version has been unavailable. It was the disappearance of this feature without comment that was a problem.
I already pay for www.howtoforge.com so that I can get a printer-friendly edition. On that site I am required to pay to get this feature - it's not optional or voluntary. Because I find the site valuable I'm glad to pay for it, but if the printer-friendly version was not available the site itself would not really be valuable.
When the printer-friendly version of FSW is again available I will very likely donate. I'm just going to evaluate how much before committing.
Printer-Friendly is Unfriendly
I've read about Karma and it looks unobtainable to me. The result is that the printer-friendly version is also unavailable and that means that FSM is basically worthless to me. Why in the world did something so complicated get created as a way to handle this? Why isn't a simple paid subscription available instead of or in addition to Karma?
We are working on it...
We are working on it!
What is it with you people?
You think you should get something for nothing and then you complain when they don't give you more? Where do you get off?
You don't deserve even the HTML version for free. Have you given FSM anything? Just complaints no doubt.
Look at what these guys have achieved in the time they've been running. Why should they listen to loud mouths who jump up and down when they don't get what they want.
I say FSM should treat them like the spoiled children they are and ignore them. And, if they keep complaining, block their accounts or something. Why should we put up with people like that in the community? If they can't behave like reasonable adults, then maybe they should leave.
Agree 100%
I Agree FSM has done/is doing a lot to help people. And then people are complaining when they pose a question. Total BS. I would pay without thinking about it.
Agree 100% too
I would pay for an ad free version (I pay for a LWN.net subscription and I _get_ ads ;) and would pay even more for a PDF.
To pay or not to pay
I would be willing to pay for a printed version (or printable, like pdf) with or without ads. I am not willing to pay to access the site without ads.
how about a shop ?
No, i won't pay for an ad-free version of free software magazine. I wouldn't pay for a paper/PDF version either. On the other hand, i would LOVE a free software magazine T-shirt. To sum it up: i would be willing to advertise the magazine and PAY for it on top ! How about that? I must be CRAZY!
Wow this is a great site
I just can't believe what is here for free. I don't mind the ads but I'll buy the ad-free thing if it'll help you out.
paying for ad free version
I would pay somewhere between $10-$15 for the content, which is great, so long as saving & printing worked well. That was why I liked the PDF version so well.
Absolutely Not
I hardly notice the ads! I am too busy enjoying all of that great content!
Vote Leonard Bernstein for President
Will pay if there is a local edition
I will definitely pay if there is a Indian Edition available or the prices are comparable to the Indian PPP.
Often good magazines from the US are sold in India, but at exorbitant rates, because of direct currency conversion.
(For instance, the cost of a Fortune magazine here is, anywhere between Rs. 300 to Rs. 500. A good non-fiction Indian book can be got for the same price).
Will surely pay
Oops...I misunderstood the question and thought that it is about the print magazine. Yes, I will definitely pay if there is ad-less magazine, as long as I can afford it.
let us know
let us know how much money needed to keep the free software magazine up an running in a year without ads and who cares about the fsm will donate.I will donate if I know what you need and how much is left to complete the expenses.
Won't pay for Ad-Free Version
Sorry guys - ad-free version is just not appealing enough for me to pay.
Even without the Firefox add-ons to filter away these ads, I have trained my eyes to naturally and automatically filter out such ads while I am reading on line. So paying for an ad-free version makes no sense to me.
My recommendation is that you work harder to make you ad generate more revenue for you. Perhaps attend a few seminars on AdSense ... :)
I am sorry an ad-free version doesn't appeal you. Luckily, some other people will find that it's a nice way to support FSM and have some advantage in the meantime.
We are working harder to generate more revenue - thank you. I am not sure attending seminars would help, since Google got a consultant to actually work on our site to optimise revenues, and the current ads is what he came up with. Thank you for the advice though.
Paid for version
I guess it depends how much advertising space you sell, at present there isn't much and I don't find it intrusive. I can see that for your long-term financial health you need either to sell more advertising, or sell subscriptions, but for my short-term financial health, I'll stick to the free version.
Which Dollars?
I'm a student, money are still a dream.
I'd like to have what you offer, but my wallet isn't.
He says to me : "are you fool?"
Yes, I'll be rich soon, then ... It's only a matter of time! :-)
Sorry guys.


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UNIVERSITY PARK - So anxious was Bill O'Brien to clear up a few things from last week's flirtation with the NFL that he didn't wait for the Big Ten Network's signal to cue Monday's 9 a.m. press conference.
"I'm just going to get started," he said. "I don't care [about the BTN feed]."
O'Brien emotionally asserted that, contrary to reports, he did not use interviews with the Philadelphia Eagles and Cleveland Browns to leverage a $1.3 million raise from Penn State.
He did not deny that he discussed the implementation of improvements around the program that included the possibility of more money for his assistants.
O'Brien also used the hastily-called session - media were alerted at 5 p.m. Saturday - to offer some public support for his two bosses, President Rodney Erickson and Athletic Director Dave Joyner.
Just as, according to O'Brien, some erroneous details had surfaced over the past few days concerning his alleged demands that he contends were not made, Twitter and the Internet depicted a less-than-flattering picture of O'Brien's relationship with his superiors.
O'Brien put that to rest, too, admiring "how much they've been through."
"I have a lot of confidence in our leaders, Rod Erickson and Dave Joyner," he said. "I have good relationships with those two guys. We talk a lot, and knowing the intelligence level and character and leadership capability, I'm in line behind them, and I stand with them."
Erickson is retiring in 2014 - a search for his successor will commence this year - and Joyner holds the title as acting AD. If that combination of an uncertain future serves as an impediment to the present, O'Brien didn't act like new leadership needs to be put in place as quickly as the message boards scream is necessary.
"Whatever people above me decide to do," O'Brien said, "I'm going to follow that lead."
For his part, Joyner has heard whispers that he and O'Brien have become oil and water. He also dismissed them.
"That's completely untrue," he said. "Bill and I have a great relationship. We've always had a great relationship, and it's the same now as it's been from Day 1."
Having hired O'Brien, not to mention being involved with the luring of wrestling coach Cael Sanderson and extending the contract of Coquese Washington, Joyner would like to remain in the saddle.
"I'm here to serve at the behest of the president," he said. "I'll be here as long as they want me and whatever they want to call me is OK with me. We'll see what happens."
Joyner was part of the Big Ten's leadership contingent at the Rose Bowl last week but said he was in steady contact through texting and email with O'Brien. He said he was kept apprised of the interview process, felt it played out as he was assured it would, and was only surprised, "of how it spiraled wild in the media. But that's the way the world works."
The media was gathered in mass Monday morning and while O'Brien closed the door on strolling the sidelines and going for it on fourth down in Philly or Cleveland, it's clear that his eventual landing spot likely includes the most famous logo in sports.
He talked in reverent terms of how "the National Football League is the highest level of coaching. I love that league," and while he remains "very, very proud to be Penn State's coach," and insists "I can't think of a better place to be," adding his family is quite happy in State College, O'Brien offered a glimpse at his career outline.
"I'm 43 years old," he said. "I've been doing this for 20 years. I'm basically, in my opinion, about halfway through my career. I won't be coaching for 47 [more] years [like Joe Paterno]. I won't. I will not be coaching when I'm 80 years old. I think I can coach about 20-25 years. That's where I see my career going."
O'Brien lamented how exactly one year ago - on January 7 - he was being introduced as the Nittany Lions' new coach.
"A lot can happen in a year," he said.
Maybe another year in State College will help the place grow on O'Brien and lessen the NFL talk. Maybe being another year closer to the end of the NCAA sanctions and by then being able to see a more equal playing field will work to Penn State's advantage.
Unless the New England job opens (Bill Belichick is only 60 years old) figure O'Brien will still be at Penn State on Jan. 7, 2014.
2015 or 2016 or beyond? That's anybody's guess.
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The Stetson men's golf team is branching out to help boost a national profile and will hope to shoot some eagles in Eagle, Idaho when the Hatters compete in the Dash Thomas Memorial, hosted by Boise State at the BanBury Golf Course.
Eliott Azoulay, Zach Stark, David Torres, Dustin Dingus and Dirk Kuehler will make up the traveling squad for the trip west to represent Stetson. Kuehler and Dingus both earned their spots on the travel team with their solid play in the season-opening Golfweek Program Challenge in South Carolina.
Shotgun starts are at 10:30 a.m. ET on Monday and 10 a.m. ET on Tuesday at the par-71 6,890-yard venue. Stetson will be the only team from east of Utah in a western-based field that also includes Cal State Fullerton, Concordia (Ore.), Grand Canyon, Idaho, Sacramento State, Seattle, Southern Utah, Utah State, Utah Valley and Weber State along with the host Broncos. The event is a new tournament added to the Hatters' schedule this year.
"In an event last season at Kiawah Island, South Carolina, we beat the Broncos and secured an invite from Boise State coach Kevin Burton," Stetson head coach Larry Watson said of how the unusual cross-country scheduling came about. "Coach Burton and I have been friends for about 12 years since we meet while Kevin was playing on the PGA Tour. He was very impressed by our team last year and thought we might like to come west and see how things are in the high desert.
"I am looking forward to Boise. I have many of my friends from Titleist in that area and I really love the courses. I think the team will enjoy seeing a different part of our country."
The Hatters are coming off a disappointing start of the season after their first event, but know that the season is young and time for improvement abounds.
"After qualifying, I am happy for the golfers who played their way onto the traveling squad," Watson said. "This is always the hardest part for me, leaving six members of the team behind. It probably affects me more than them; but, that is completion and hopefully we will continue to improve. Our goals are very high for this team and I believe they will work hard to achieve what they want to do for the team and the University."