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Cubs Trade Mark DeRosa
Bruce Levine of ESPN1000 is reporting that the Cubs have traded Mark DeRosa and the $5.5M on his contract for 2009 to the Cleveland Indians for three minor-leaguers, RHP Jeff Stevens, LHP John Gaub and RHP Chris Archer.
You have to think a trade, let's say for a certain pitcher from San Diego whom I dare not speak his name, is possibly forthcoming.
I'll try and get some info on the prospects in a bit.
UPDATE #1: Link from espn.com, although I think they have a typo on John "Caub".
UPDATE #2: I poked around a bit and none of the three prospects showed up on Baseball America's recent top 10 Indians' prospect list or John Sickels Top 20. In other words, this deal only makes sense if they're all headed to another city, let's call it San Diego, to give them the quantity of pitchers and players that they wanted in that trade for that certain pitcher, whom we'll refer to as J.P.
Scouting reports and biographies that I could piece together on the prospects after the jump....
Jeff Stevens was drafted in the 6th round by the Cincinnati Reds in 2005 out of Loyola Marymount University. A year later he was traded to the Indians as part of the Brandon Phillips trade. He pitched for Team USA in the 2008 Olympics as well. He features a 92-93 mph fastball that can get up to 95mph, an above-average curve and has been working on a slider. He spent most of the 2008 season closing for the Indians Triple-A affiliate in Buffalo. The 25-year old is certainly the best of the three players the Cubs are getting back.
23-year old John Gaub was a 21st round selection by the Indians in 2006 out of the University of Minnesota and had an incredible 14.06 K/9 rate in A-ball last year, even if he was a bit old for the league. He was considered a flamethrower in college, but had his shoulder scoped after his sophomore year which in turn resulted in a loss in velocity. He seems to be getting it back up to the mid 90's on occasion but usually settles in the low 90's with a decent slider and a change-up as well.
20-year old Chris Archer was a teammate of John Gaub at Lake County last season and although he had a healthy 8.27 K/9 rate last season, he walked an incredible 84 batters in 115.1 IP. The 5th-round pick out of high school in 2006 throws in the low 90's with a "plus slider" and scouts think he has the frame to build on that velocity.
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Pretty nice K rates on Stevens and the Gobster. The Gobster was probably two years two old for his league, though.
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Gaub was a college kid so that is why he was there, If he pitches well at Daytona (if he stays) to starts the season a promotion to AA By June is not out of the question.
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So SD just wants any old shitty pitching prospects? We already had those. Damn, DeRosa just has to be more valuable...doesn't he?
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Maybe Rob forgot to mention that the Indians threw in the entire island of Manhattan and most of the northeast in the deal?
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I know this trade has already been made...but maybe we can take it back.
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Damn you Mark DeRosa and your Non-Lefthandedness!!!
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Any announcement of a Hendry press conference after all of this?
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If the Cubs can just find 12 or 13 more prospects maybe they'll actually pick up Peavy.
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For all of those who thought that Hendry was doing nothing because you couldn't see or hear anything, all I have to say is that you just have to be patient.
Have a good start to the upcoming year everyone!
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DeRo will be playing third base for the Indians.
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MILB pages for the players:
Gaub: http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stat...
He is 23 (4/22/85) and at Low A last year and had a line a line of 34 IP, 3.38 ERA, 2 saves, 100/32 K/BB ratio, 3 HR allowed, .195 BAA, and a .74 GO/AO ratio.
Stevens: http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stat...
He is 25 (9/5/83) bounced around AA and AAA with a line of 5-4, 58.1 IP, 3.24 ERA, 6 saves, 81/27 K/BB, 5 HR allowed, .184 BAA, .86 GB/AO
Archer: http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stat...
He is 20 (9/26/88) and was at Low A and his line of 115.1 IP, 27 starts, 4-8, 106/84 K/BB, 8 HR allowed, 1.65 GO/AO ratio, and .220 BAA.
I really can not see how this exicites Towers into trading Peavy. None of these guys are top 20 prospect material at this point. If the only reason this trade was to fit team killer Milton Bradley under payroll, then I will be upset.
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Gaub had 100 K's in 34 innings? That's got to be some kind of record.
Stevens could probably pitch in Petco right now. I would guess that Archer is a key part for the Peavy trade just based on his age and that he's a starter.
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I believe it was 64 IP.
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mixed up games and iniings, he had 64 IP.
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Yeah, this and Miles only makes sense if we assume there's something bigger coming.....
Will miss ya, Mark.
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the Indians threw in the entire island of Manhattan
Hopefully Kerry/Mark will wear the beads they got in this transaction.
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thanks, doc. i'm glad someone's alive who actually remembers that trade.
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A freshly baked cake is on the stove cooling. Now the frosting?
Could Ronnie Cedeno be a memory too, moved onto SD?
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If they're not moved in a later deal, Jeff Stevens would probably project as the RHP set-up man at Iowa in 2009 with a possible 2009 call-up at some point, John Gaub would project as a lefty set-up man at Daytona, and RHP Chris Archer would project as a rotation starter at Daytona.
As has been mentioned by Rob G, none of the three are anything close to "hot shot" prospects, although Stevens apparently showed enough promise at AAA Buffalo in 2008 to get a slot on the Indians 40-man roster last month.
While the three pitchers aren't total stiffs, the trade does look like it was basically a salary dump to clear some payroll for Bradley and Peavy. Of the three, I would think only Stevens would be of interest to the Padres in a possible Jake Peavy deal.
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This is a gamble and one that I'm not sure I like altogether, but if it allows us to get Bradley and Peavy without giving up, say, Vitters, then it's an improvement to the club, next year and in the future. Of course, Towers could continue to be the incompetent dick that he is and fuck this up, but one would think Hendry knew which players on the Indians and Rockies he liked. We'll see.
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If those two deals do go through, this team is starting to seem a lot like the 2004 version.
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Could we get JP for a cheap middle infielder, mid level pitching prospects and Marshall?
None of the Cubs top arms would go for this cheap. Best deal JH has never made!
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I assume by cheap middle infielder you mean Cedeno, but you also have to include losing DeRo if JH ships all or at least 2 of the prospects to SD.
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Some old BA scouting reports on the three pitchers the Cubs got frrom Cleveland...
1. Jeff Stevens pitched at Loyola Marymount and was described as having a "deceptive" 90-91 MPH sinking fastball with an "improved" breaking ball and good command and competitiveness at that time. He was drafted in the 6th round of the 2005 draft by the Cincinnati Reds but was the PTBNL in the Brandon Phillips deal, so he's been traded before. He was moved from the starting rotation to the bullpen after he turned pro, and he has really improved his fastball since making the move. He now throws consistently 92-94 MPH with an occasional 96, and he was the closer for Team USA at the World Cup in Taiwan in November 2007.He also throws a slow curve, a cutter, and a slider.
2. John Gaub threw a 96 MPH fastball with a sharp curve and plus change-up as a sophomore at the U. of Minnesota and was one of the top pitching prospects in the Big Ten hoing into the 2005 season, but then he had shoulder surgery (torn labrum) and had a significant loss of velocity on his fastball and break on his curve when he tried to came back in 2006. He was selected by Cleveland in the 21st round of the 2006 draft, and was signed in August for "5th round money" (he actually got a higher bonus than Chris Archer got as the Indians' 2006 5th round pick). He had additional shoulder surgery post-2006 and so he did not make his pro debut until August 2007, and then he began last season rehabbing at EXST, but he is supposedly finally healthy now. He developed a low release angle to compensate for his shoulder injury.
3. Chris Archer was a highly regarded HS pitcher in North Carolina (he probably knows Mitch Atkins) who reneged on an oral commitment to homestate NC State before signing an NLI to attend Miami (Florida). But the Indians offered him $155K to forget college and he took it. Archer threw a 90-92 four-seam fastball at that time, but his breaking ball was supposed to be his "out" pitch. He has had command problems throughout his career, but his hammer-curve was rated the best in the Indians system, and his fastball has also shown improvement (he now throws 92-94), although it has only minimal movement.
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I'm afraid that this trade isn't getting prospects to trade for Peavy. We are fooling ourselves if we think that. This is the result of an owner's parent in bankruptcy and the team being sold. It's creating budget room for Bradley, end of story. Bradley will be a mistake. He has only played in over 100 games 3 times in a 9 year career. Abreau has played in over 150 games 12 staight years. The answer is simple - Abreau.
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"The answer is simple - Abreau."
Is the question in French?
But, if this is all that DeRosa is worth...I'd rather keep him.
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I think that would have to be Abreaux.
(Still not back at home. Don't worry, regular posting to resume tomorrow.)
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No, it really wouldn't. See: Beau, Eau, etc.
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wow, you're cranky today.
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Am I? Wasn't meaning to be...sorry it sounded that way.
[EDIT] But that does remind me to take my pills...I'll go do that.
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we're getting more than one of him?
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If the Cubs signed both Bobby and Winston Abreu, then you could see this headline: "Cubs sign Abreux."
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Now that is funny.
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That reminds me to go take your pills.
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That's also funny. Hmm. Maybe the pills do work. But come one, who doesn't like French language jokes?
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any time spent on a dig at the French is quality. For instance a French classified newspaper ad:
WW2 military issued rifle. Never fired, dropped once.
Nothing beats the timeliness of a WW2 joke.
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Bonjooooooooour you cheese eatin' surrender monkeys!!!
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If the Cubs go ahead and acquire Peavy ($11 million) for prospects and sign Bradley for an estimated $10 million, then the 25-man team payroll projects to over $146 million.
Which strongly suggests that either Vizcaino will be flipped or that other salary will be moved.
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Severely backloaded...isn't that how Hendry rolls?
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It's all the doughnuts.
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I was expecting a cinnamon roll joke, but I'll take it.
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Hendry definitely likes to deal his load to the back.
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Callis on today's ESPN Chat:
PERSON 1: Any idea what the Cubs may or may not be doing with these pitchers they just got from Cleveland for DeRosa?
Jim Callis: (2:10 PM ET ) The Cubs just flipped DeRosa for Jeff Stevens, John Gaub and Chris Archer. This looks like the prelude to another deal, possibly for Jake Peavy. They're on the verge of dealing Jason Marquis to the Rockies, clearing his salary, something else they wanted to do before getting Peavy. My guess is some or all of those pitchers go to San Diego with Josh Vitters and others (Kevin Hart?) for Peavy. They're about to sign (it may be official) Aaron Miles to fill in at second base, too.
PERSON 2: Mr callis of the 3 guys the cubs got back in return from Cleveland in the Derosa trade not one of them was ranked on HQ's or Sickels list of Indian prospects and on top of that none of them even got honorable mentioned.. so who are they?
Jim Callis: (2:39 PM ET ) That's why you need to buy the Prospect Handbook--Jeff Stevens is No. 19 and John Gaub is No. 29 on our Top 30, so you can read all about them there. Stevens is a big-league ready reliever with a plus fastball and deceptive delivery. Gaub is a low-90s lefty who would have been an early pick in the 2006 draft had he not been hurt at Minnesota. Archer was a fifth-round pick in 2006, who has a good arm but is still raw.
Not bad value for DeRosa...if this really does turn into Peavy it's a great deal! Go for it all 2009!
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I don't buy it, personally. He's not going to trade for these guys then immediately say they're on their way out. But, it's also possible, that they're here to replace guys in the Cubs system who are going to be traded.
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It's all about Lou's love of Handedness. Miles bats Lefty(switch) and Derosa didn't. Hendry is up against it finacially. So this is clearing space to backload a deal for Bradley or Abreu.
I will be shocked if Peavy is a cub before a sale. It reeks of Brian Roberts "smokescreen" that Hendry did all last offseason to distract fans. Especially when we look at the other big market teams shelling out big bucks.
I see the quote heading into spring training now.
"We think we have really improved ourselves. We obviously looked at some other guys and made really strong efforts to get them. Ultimately we decided that the cost was a little too high."
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The lineup does need balance but I don't like it that it comes from dealing away a strength in DeRosa's production & versatility. I would have preferred to keep DeRo and free up money for a RFer by not signing Dempster especially if the Cubs do land Peavy. Pie could have been dealt to the O's for Olson to use in the Peavy trade so Marshall would be a solid cheap #5 SP.
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I always though Sullivan was disleftsick. that proves it.
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The way I see this trade, the good: Frees up payroll, allows Fontenot to start at 2b. I might be in the minority, but I think Fontenot will produce around the same as Dero offensively in '09 at a fraction of the cost.
the bad: Derosa was traded at probably the height of his value but i'm surprised that Hendry didn't get more, I would think Minnesota would have heavy interest. We will mess derosa's positional flexibility.
Long story short, if this allows the cubs to sign only Bradley, I'm just ok with it due to Bradley's fragility. But if this allows the cubs to trade for Peavy too than it's a very good deal.
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If the Cubs get Peavy and Bradley, having lost Wood, DeRosa, Marquis and whomever might go in the Peavy deal, are they a better tream? Tough to see that right now, but maybe it's just because I really like DeRosa. Have dealt with him a number of times and was always very approachable and professional. I loved what he brought to the team on the field also.
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For once - JH traded high on someone. Woot! DeRosa will be missed except in the Playoffs - if the team makes it - where he undoubtedly was a big disappointment to me personally. His DP with the bases loaded in Game 1, while I was sitting there knowing it was wait 'til next year, ranks up there with Cubs chokes in crucial moments. Not as big as A-Gon, but when coupled with his errors in THIS years' playoffs - lets try a new hand. Without Peavy, it may be a lateral move with more LH opportunity, as you say.
"We are thrilled to acquire three strong, young arms in Jeff Stevens, John Gaub and Chris Archer," said Cubs General Manager Jim Hendry. "They are significant additions to our system and have received universally high marks from our scouts, notably Stan Zielinski."
If we hang on to the above pitchers - we get some nice inventory for other things down the road.
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Yeah, but remember when he hit into that DVDA?
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DeRosa's one of the only Cubs who've hit in both the past two postseasons (.333 both times, drove in four of the six Cubs runs in '08). Yeah, the DP (that's for you Rob) in Game 3 hurt, as did his error in the Game 2 '08 debacle. Still....sorry he's gone.
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JP and MB for a bag of baseballs, some chalk and a glove, and all done under tight financial constraints.
Could we ever knock JH again? GM of the year? He's that genius, I hope.
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I'm confused about random baseball equipment analogy. He's losing Wood, Marquis, and DeRosa, plus some of our best 'prospects' in these deals (that haven't happened yet)...they are and were all valuable.
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I'm confused about the reference to "a bag of baseballs" but no mention of Simoniz.
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or the used infield rake
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Sorry, I'm thinking we are maybe getting ready to make a great deal. Wood was gone already, due in part to the market. Marquis is, and will remain, painful to watch. DeRose is a nice piece but you have to give up something to get something. JP for Marshall, Cedeno or Theriot and prospects is cheap and all under $143 million. Cubs advance in the playoffs. My hat will be off to JH, koolaid raised in toast!
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I think that some of the concern is that many of us expected higher return for DeRosa, -I certainly did. To use your expression, in this case we really did not get much of anything for our something.
-and I was certain that draft picks would be forthcoming for losing Wood.
With regard to Marquis, as a 4 or 5, I really didnt think he was that painful to watch. (no more than Z in his "ace" role).
If we ultimately get Peavy, I agree Hendry is a god; We can all make Marquis jokes, and nobody will worry about the DeRosa return.
It may be a different story if we dont.
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many of us expected higher return for DeRosa
That DeRosa has only 1 year left on his contract is a big factor in why Hendry didn't/couldn't get more.
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Fair point.
What I was trying to illustrate is that in our attempt to aquire Peavy we have already given up Wood, Marquis and Derosa. (well, we now have Gathright, Gregg and Miles, but you get the idea). He's giving up a bunch.
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letting go of Wood has nothing to do with acquiring Peavy. Hendry was not going to sign him at $10M/year with or without Peavy.
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You can't talk about payroll restraints and mention the Bradley signing without taking into account the loss of Wood for budget reasons.
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If the Padres deal Peavey, they will be down to essentially two competent ML starters.
That suggests that, at a minimum, someone like Hart has to be part of any Peavy deal, to ensure that they at least have a warm body to pitch every 5th day. They need cheap, ML-ready pitching far more than they need Pie and Cedeno.
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also the bench is significantly changing...
Assuming 12 pitchers, 8 starters with Fukudome, Edmonds in the OF.
2008: (LH) Fontenot, Ward
(RH) Johnson, Cedeno, Blanco
...with 11 pitchers I would have had to include one of Murton, EPat or Pie
Assuming 12 pitchers, 8 starters with Fontenot at 2B, Fukudome in CF, Bradley in RF
2009 (so far): (LH) Miles, Hoffpauir, Gathright
(RH) Johnson, Miles, Backup Catcher.
and of course on days he doesn't pitch: Zambrano (switch)
...and assuming Cedeno is gone
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I'd feel better if we had a competent SS prospect above A ball.
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If this is not the prelude to a trade for Peavy, I'm going to be very annoyed by Hendry's moves this week. I hope I'm wrong, but I have a feeling that these are pure cost cutting moves and freeing up some payroll for Bradley.
Replacing Wood with Gregg downgraded the bullpen.
Replacing DeRosa with Miles/Fontenot downgrades the infield and makes the team less flexable. (and no, I'm not in the group that thinks Fontenot will be just as good as DeRosa)
Getting Bradley to replace Edmunds will be an upgrade, but only if he can get beyond his track record and play every day. If he gets hurt again, and you've lost DeRosa as an option, You're going to be seeing a combination of Fuk/Reed/Pie/Gathright taking up 2 spots in the line-up really frequently.
Even dumping Marquis seems a bit shortsighted. As much as everyone seems to be celebrating that he's on his way out, He was a 5th starter who you could trust to throw 200 innings every year with a ERA that was below average, but still servicable for a 5th starter. I think Marshall is a better pitcher for the #5 spot, but going out of your way to get rid of your safety net (especially when you've got Harden and Zambrano who typically miss some time), when you're not going to save much (if any) money just doesn't seem like a great decision either.
I know the offseason isn't done yet, but I simply haven't seen any moves so far that make me think that the 09 Cubs will be better than 08.
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I'm not pleased with these moves. I understand they are trying to get left-handed hitters, but they are adding a subpar run producer in Miles and an injury prone hitter in Bradley at the expense of a solid, if not spectacular Derosa who was good for plus RBI production at 2b. I also find it comical that Dero had 10 more rbi's last season than Bradley's career high, yet we're dumping Dero's $6 mil to hand out something in the range of 2 years, $20 mil to Bradley.
On an unrelated topic, compare these two half season splits from last year:
Player 1 second half:
.222/.253/.353 18 runs, 4 hr, 18 rbi in 180 plate appearances
Player 2 second half:
.217/.314/.326 20 runs, 3 hr, 22 rbi in 202 plate appearances
Player 1 is our former CF, Corey Patterson
Player 2 is our "new" CF, Fukudome
That's scary. And Patterson makes $800k next year while Fuku gets $12 mil. If Fuku doesn't recover and contribute much more at the plate, Hendry will be trying to add another outfielder by mid-May.
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Also keep in mind.
Marquis and DeRosa were the big contract to come off the books after 2009. With all the backloaded deals saddled upon the club. We might see even more cost cutting next year. Assuming that Trib continues to drag it's feet on the sale.
Thank God Blogv got arrested before he could screw the cubs in the future. Whoever said that Sam Zell would be an ok franchise Steward, was dead wrong.
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"Whoever said that Sam Zell would be an ok franchise Steward, was dead wrong."
Isn't he the guy who's let us add $40 million to the payroll?
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Again, #1 goal in off-season was to get more LHH in line-up----now vs. a tough RHP, Lou can start 4 LHH in the line-up, Miles @SS, MikeF.@2B, Fuk in CF, and Bradley in RF------vs a tough LHP Theroit @SS, Miles @ 2B, Johnson in CF and Bradley in RF-----the problems is really during the play-offs when you know you are going to face good RHP, you need LHH---Lou stated that right after the play-offs ended---the down side of losing DeRosa is who plays 3B for 2 weeks if/when ARam goes down?---also, look for a LHH back-up catcher, either K. Hill or Bako---#2 goal in any off-season is starting pitching, so now if we can get Peavy because of these moves get it done---glad JH is working hard to improve the team
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Hendry will be on XM 175 program shortly, 4:30 pm Chicago time...Think it's rob dibble and casey stern hosting.
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If we get
and one of the following
Then this was a good move. Who would have ever guessed that backloading all these deals would eventually kill Hendry's flexiblity?
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Part of the problem with getting Peavy though is that his contract is also backloaded. He gets $11 mil for 2009, then it jumps up...
"10:$15M, 11:$16M, 12:$17M, 13:$22M club option or ($4M buyout)"
And his agent is rumored to want that option picked up to ok a trade.
I like Peavy, I just wonder how much more his contract will cause us to make moves we normally wouldn't down the road because of money.
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And what did those players contracts add up to in 2008?
The reason Wood, Derosa, and Marquis are gone is because of all the backloaded contracts.
I think most Cubs fans would rather have Woodie than Kevin Gregg, and Dero over any other current 2b on the team. I understand how it works, and I'm not bitching about adding all of the high priced guys, it's refreshing for the Cubs to spend money, but these big deals handcuff teams, especially when they are so heavily backloaded. Most of the recent deals had significantly lower first two season salaries to try and pass the bulk of their contracts off on the new owner. The check has come due.
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Backloading contracts saves you money in NPV, and it is common, just not as common to do it as extensively as Hendry has.
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Proof? Let's see a breakdown by GM before you just assert something like that. You can find contract info here if you want to do some research:
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Here's an interesting idea, why don't you get off your fat ass and disprove it?
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Here's an interesting idea, get a fucking life besides spending all of your day on here telling everyone else they are wrong and asserting that you are always right.
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But here is just one example that illustrates it is common practice among GMs:
Cleveland Indians
Travis Hafner
07:$6.3M, 08:$8.05M, 09:$11.5M, 10:$11.5M, 11:$13M, 12:$13M, 13:$13M club option ($2.75M buyout)
Cliff Lee
Victor Martinez
05:$0.5M, 06:$0.8M, 07:$3M, 08:$4.25M, 09:$5.7M, 10:$7M club option ($0.25M buyout)
Grady Sizemore
06:$0.5M, 07:$0.75M, 08:$3M, 09:$4.6M, 10:$5.6M, 11:$7.5M, 12:$8.5M club option ($0.5M buyout)
Jhonny Peralta
06:$0.5M, 07:$0.75M, 08:$2.25M, 09:$3.4M, 10:$4.6M, 11:$7M 2011 club option ($0.25M buyout)
Rafael Betancourt
08:$2.05M, 09:$3.35M, 10:$5.4M club option
Fausto Carmonoa
08:$0.5M, 09:$2.75M, 10:$4.9M, 11:$6.1M, 12:$7M club option, 13:$9M club option, 14:$12M club option
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All Free Agent Contracts:
Raul Ibanez
Adam Eaton
Geoff Jenkins
Vladimir Guerrero
Gary Mathews Jr.
Miguel Tejada
Carlos Lee
BJ Ryan
Jeff Suppan
07:$6M, 08:$8M, 09:$12.5M, 10:$12.5M, 11:$12.75M club option
Troy Glaus
Dan Haren
Andruw Jones
Hiroki Kuroda
Rafael Furcal
09:$6.5M, 10:$8.5M, 11:$12M, 12:$12M club option
Most major free agent contracts are backloaded, many significantly so, just from my perusing the rosters only about 1 in 5 are contracts in which the annual rate stays about the same throughout the life of the contract - like for instance Jason Schmidt 07:$12.5M, 08:$12M, 09:$12M
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The same of course can be said of the Cubs. If you add signing bonuses to the first year, Hendry's recent signings look like this:
07:$17M, 08:$13M, 09:$16M, 10-14:$18M annually
07:$13M, 08:$14M, 09:$15.65M, 10:$15.75M, 11:$14.6M player option, 12:$16M club option ($2M buyout)
06-10: $13M annually
09:$12M, 10:$12.5M, 11:$13.5M, 12:$14M player option
Marquis and DeRosa are the two extreme backloaded salaries. Lilly's rises a lot too. Soriano has a discounted 2nd year. but otherwise everyone is pretty much within a million or two annually for the duration of their contracts.
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Z 2008: $15 mil (2009: 17.75)
Sori 2008: $13 mil (2009: 16)
ARam 2008: $14 (2009: 15.75)
Lee $13 both years
Lilly 2008: $7 mil (2009: $12 mil)
Dempster 2008: $5.5 mil (2009: $12 mil)
Fuku 2008: $6 mil (2009: $11.5 mil)
That's increase of $24.5 mil for 2009 on 7 players. Not 3.75.
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given the payroll has been rumored lately to be around the 140m area...and given that like 2/3rd of the payroll (as it stood as of yesterday) was already in that area...
well, i would look forward to an either/or with the big OF or big SP, but i'm not holding my breath for both.
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Dibble said Bradley is a known cancer in the clubhouse...Hear that MB, go after that dumb boob.
Stern has a boner for a Roberts deal
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dibble was a cancer in the clubhouse...screw him...or rather, give him a vodka screwdriver.
i dont think bradley on a multiyear is a safe thing for a NL club, but the guy hasn't been called out by his peers in quite a while.
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Dibs would gladly trade you that screwdriver for a new plain black t-shirt in size smmedium to show off the guns.
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Look. Some of you were complaining that DeRo was getting paid too much at the time he was signed. Now you're bitching that he was traded.
Which way is it gonna be? Now you're bereft that he's gone for Aaron Miles and three young arms with the last year of his deal?
Let's ease out of the amrchair GM chair for a minute and see what happens prior to the convention (and, you can bet something will go down prior to then).
And, further, let's see what team we will be fielding come opening day.
Stoney was on the SCORE thirty minutes ago and stated that with Bradley, the Cubs should win the Division again by 12-14 games (he said 8 last year - off by two).
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on XM,
Hendry: plans on picking up another LH outfielder
sings DeRosa's praises for versatility, good person, etc.
but move (implying adding Miles?) was to get more left handed and DeRosa was RH.
Stern asks about Brian Roberts to play 2B.
Hendry: No talks with Baltimore at all this offseason. Andy's not interested in dealing him. Cubs will go with Fontenot and Miles at 2B.
Hendry: expect a couple of deals in the next 7-10 days including an OF bat.
Stern: how about the bullpen?
Hendry: Even without Woody, Marmol and Greg can both close. Also mentions Shark, Guzman, Cotts
...says Stevens may help in the pen.
Stern: Any concerns about Soriano struggles in the postseason?
Hendry: He's a streaky guy, a 270-280 hitter, not the model of consistency but he had 3 bad games in the playoffs but played well in the 2nd half last year.
Dibble: what about the economy?
Hendry: our ownership situation is unique. What we have/haven't done this winter is more affected by the ownership sale rather than the economy.
Stern: Yankee's exorbitant spending, Salary Cap? Where do you stand?
Hendry: I've spent alot of money in the last few years. I've no animosity toward the Yankee spending. I try not to be critical of others. Every GM would like more money on the payroll.
Dibble: where are you? It sounds like you are hunting?
Hendry: I'm in my brother's neighborhood, play a little golf here but I'm not carrying a gun.
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Bradley may or may not be a "cancer in the clubhouse," but when you consider the source, that's a laughable assertion. Dibble has always been and always will be a ginormous horse's ass, and his teammates in Cincy didn't care for his act one damn bit. But they won with him anyway, so it didn't matter in the end.
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So once the Marquis-Bradley deals are finalized, Hendry is in the position of being able to live with the present roster.
And once the sale is complete, he is also has the pieces to get Peavy if the new ownership group agrees to increase the budget to accomodate Peavy's salary.
He probably already has some assurances from the different groups that such approval would be given, or we wouldn't be hearing that the Peavy deal is back on the burner.
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No question signing Bradley is a gamble. The injury history, the recent lack of reps in the outfield, switching leagues yet again. I'm not as concerned about the "cancer in the clubhouse" issue. Last year's team was painted as a clubhouse chock full of nice character guys without much internal strife. They won a bunch of games and then crapped the bed (again) in the Divisional series.
Bottom line: whether it's changing the makeup of the clubhouse, the "handedness" of the lineup, or the pecking order at the top of the rotation (by acquiring "he-who-shall-not-be-named"), Hendry has to roll the dice a bit. Bradley may be tempestuous, but the team could certainly use some fire. And I know it's a weak comparison, but the Rodman thing worked out pretty well for the Bulls.
Could it blow up in Hendry's face? Of course. But taking chances (even expensive chances) is part of the job description.
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You summed it all up in your last sentence, Tarz. Cubs won 97 games but ZERO in the post season. Chances need to be taken, changes need to be done. Why is Kenny Williams a genius for being so impatient with what appeared to be good rosters in the past, and now Hendry ships out a veteran utility guy and he's a goof?
The clubhouse does seem too nice. Maybe Bradley was a considered a cancer in a losing clubhouse, maybe he wanted to push guys into playing winning baseball. Gerald Perry, his former hitting coach in Oakland and sparring partner, said as much. My only objection is the guy cannot put in a full season to save his soul.
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Without the DeRosa deal, the team has been weakened. However, if we can go out and get Peavy, then I am okay with the DeRosa deal. But, if the DeRosa deal was to clear salary for Bradley, then this is not a better 2009 team than the 2008 team. It will be three and out and we are back to square one. Wish there was something that we could do to force Abreu over Bradley in Hendry's mind. Sorry, I am just not a big Bradley fan and I can not get excited about him joining the Cubs.
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any team with dlee/aram/soriano/soto adding another power bat isn't in that bad of shape.
...not to mention the 4 starting pitchers.
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Sure there's something you could do. Go find him and tell him he sucks. After he strangles you, I imagine Hendry will look elsewhere for RF.
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Everyone....there is no question this team is weaker RIGHT NOW, but there is a lot of offseason left. I don't believe for a minute that Hendry is nearly done with the roster. Adding Miles allows more flexibility. Bradley might not even be coming here, MLB reports today that Washington is going all out for him to play center (good luck with that, Jim Bowden).
On your Abreu point I think the only way he becomes a Cub is if he's gets cheaper. With reports of three other teams chasing him, that might not pan out.
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it seems many of these contracts are backloaded but seeing the above numbers doesn't account for the bonus dollars which often gets some additional deferred treatment, if not exactly as "backloaded" as the actual salary.
ie. Andruw Jones
... Jones will receive a $12.2 million signing bonus, of which $5.1 million is payable next year, $2.1 million in 2009 and $5 million in 2010. He will get salaries of $9 million next year and $15 million in 2009, and also will receive a no-trade clause.
so Jones got $14.1M in 2008, $17.1M in 2009 and a final "bonus" of $5M in 2010 after the "employment" component of the contract is over.
Now that's a bad contract (unless your name is Andruw).
Ol' 3/44 aka Ned Coletti needs to roll a peanut down the street with his nose for offering that one.
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Speaking of pitchers and catchers reporting in 6 weeks, why are we about to sign Bako when Greg Zaun is available? Sure Zaun is 37 but is still effective.
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How does adding Miles add flexibility?? DeRosa hit LHP and RHP, and played 2B, 3b, SS, and OF.
Miles can switch hit, hitting for average with zero power from both sides of the plate. Someone mentioned Miles at SS??
Aaron Miles career at SS:
107 games, .958 pct, 3.88 RFg, league RFg3.99
Oh..and his .317 ba last yeaar was a career high at age 31 (now 32)
.289/.329/.364 So he's Neifi Perez if Neifi could hit for average a bit. Of course even Neifi hit 9 HR and 33 doubles for the Cubs in 2005. Miles will never sniff those marks.
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fwiw, aaron miles's D has improved since his earlier days. hell, in STL he improved a lot. it was kinda shocking how much better his footwork got. his arm is decent.
that said...yeah, for batting he'll take an occasional walk, swing at almost everything, and hit singles.
he can play 2nd/3rd/SS, though. don't think anyone would want him playing 162 games there, though. he's much better suited for 2nd.
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If that was a joke, I did not get it. Regarding the cancer issue, Bradley will not fire up this team. He will probably point to other players who do not deliver and then go out and either K, make an error, or get injured. We need someone who is capable of delivering a key hit during critical times, like the playoffs. Bradley is not that player. Even if Abreu is more expensive, he has a better history and more upside than Bradley.
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Meh, I messed that up. Mets are in.
Cards and Giants can still tie though.
Kershaw gets hurt by his defense and gave up 2 more runs. Blach has 8 shutout innings.
Mets already won as did Cards.
tomorrow is gonna be helluva fun if Giants hold on. We're all rooting for a 3-way tie I presume.
good news is now 5 K's for Lester through 4 (in a quest for 200 for season). Bad news is he's already at 86 pitches.
be curious how long Maddon sticks with Lester to try and let offense get back into it and get him the win (4-2 as I type, was 4-0)
Fwiw, he needed 2.1 IP to cross 200 for season so he got that at least. He also needs 9 K's for 200K's on season and he has 4 through 3.
cubs score 2 runs thanks to predictable reds pitching and horrible CIN defense...cubs only down by 1 now. heyward even got a gift 2rbi double out of an easy popout. neat.
something named Ty Blach has outpitched Clayton Kershaw through 6 innings (1-0 Giants).
not that finishing 2nd place will matter much nor did this game, but have to think if Hendricks pitches well tomorrow, he could leapfrog Lester in Cy Young voting. Don't see anyway Scherzer doesn't win it regardless and it doesnt' look like Lester has any incentive clauses that matter. Also might give Cueto some votes.
Rather remarkable how many teams have really good 1-2 options this year.
Nats: Scherzer and Roark (and Strasburg was great before injuries)
Cubs: Lester and Hendricks (and Arrietta is still damn good just not as consistently lately)
pretty much what I'm gathering from this thread is that it doesn't matter who you play in 5-game series, but no one wants to have to deal with Cardinal fans if we end up losing.
I can respect that.
first game for lester giving up more than 2 runs since july 24th. hell of a run.
doh, yes...dunno what happened there. jake arrieta is all "bro wut?"
lester going for #20...cubs haven't had a LH (thanks jpep for the correction) 20 game winner since d.ellsworth in 1963.
fwiw, all the games are free on mlb.tv
Short rest for MadBum would be 2 days. WC game is Wed., Games 1 & 2 are Friday/Saturday.
A left-handed one...
J-Hey not finishing with an offensive onslaught.
If Geoff Blum could be a Playoff hero, there is hope still...
Giants scare me. I think you're wrong about Bumgarner, he would pitch on short rest for Game 2 and then full rest for Game 5. Cueto would go Game 1, then short rest in game 4. Add in some really tough outs in that lineup and I want nothing to do with them. With that rotation they can easily steal a series.
Cards are a tough matchup. The rivalry evens out their comparable lack of talent. And like someone said, they love HRs, which is how to beat the Cubs. The upside is that I would feel really good about Lester twice against STL.


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i liked it, the part i thought was dumb though is for the movie they pretend they don't know who nurse joy is. her and jenny are everywhere. mewtwo is probably my favorite pokemon.
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Pokemon is a good movie. I had enjoyed it's lot of parts with my niece. She is a vast fan of Pokemon series and movie as well.
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At the age of seventeen, Mulvihill moved back to England, where he stayed for years playing with the Birmingham Ceili Band. In the next few years, Mulvihill won both the junior and senior All-Ireland fiddle championships as well as the Senior All-Ireland duet with Brooklyn-born accordionist and friend Billy McComiskey.
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My biggest fear going into OT would be that the game would be decided in a shootout, but for some reason seeing Crysby score the goal never entered into my mind. I didn't think something so cruel was so possible.
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I appreciate what technology has done for photography as much as the next person.
A digital camera means never running out of film or wondering if the camera captured the image you saw in your mind's eye.
Thanks to digital cameras, we don't sweat taking too many photos. Images of unhappy or out-of-focus faces are easy to delete, and they don't cost anything.
Technology has affected everything about taking pictures at our house, except the way we look at them.
We're old school.
Every photo passes through our laptop, but that's not their final destination.
We still print the photos we like, and commit them to thick, bulky photo albums, three pictures to a page.
My wife and I have been snapping photos on vacations since 1990 and logging significant moments in the lives of our three daughters since our firstborn came along in 1993.
Memories, I have come to realize, take up space.
Thick, leather-bound photo albums fill to overflowing a pair of shelves designated for their use on one of our bookshelves.
I am happy to report they are more than bulk collectors of dust.
In odd moments, more often than one might think, one of our daughters will decide to haul out an album or two and idly thumb through the pages.
I take a risk when I sit down on the couch to join them.
Mostly the memories are sweet, but they can also be a reminder of moments that are slipping away.
There's Olivia, wearing a blue denim jumper, waiting for the bus on her first day of school. It really does seem like yesterday. She's a college freshman now.
There's 6-year-old Alyssa, aboard a party fishing boat off the coast of North Carolina. There she is holding two small fish that she caught with some help from the ship's captain.
She is beaming. It's hard not to smile back at her.
And there is Aubrey, just 2 in this picture and smiling at the camera with an angelic glow. Here's another of her taken last summer, holding a baseball bat and squinting fiercely, minus the angelic glow, as she readies for the next pitch of her Little League career.
They say that content lives forever on the Internet. Maybe. But there is something permanent and personal about these book-bound images of the people I care about.
Sure, we store some photos on our computer. We even have some squirreled in an online repository.
But some things, like this photo of my daughters baking bread with their grandmother, belong within easy reach.
I could, at a moment's notice, pop a photo out of its sleeve and into a frame, or slap it on the refrigerator with a magnet, an eye-level reminder of a past moment.
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HOLLIDAYSBURG - A crash in Allegheny Township has claimed the life of a Cambria County woman.
Connie Naylor, 58, of Dysart died in the emergency room of Altoona Regional of injuries she suffered in a two-vehicle crash Wednesday on Route 22, according to state police and the Blair County coroner.
State police report Naylor was traveling in the right, eastbound lane of Route 22 in a 2004 Hyundai Accent sedan at 9:29 a.m. when a 2012 Nissan Pathfinder, driven by Jennifer J. Sloan, 32, of Cresson, slammed into the rear of her car.
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The Allegheny Township fire company and Pennsylvania State Police responded to a two-vehicle crash Wednesday on Route 22 that killed a Dysart woman.
Both cars came to a rest in a grassy area south of the highway, police said. Sloan suffered minor injuries and was wearing a seat belt. Police did not indicate if Naylor was restrained.
Blair County Coroner Patricia Ross said Naylor died from blunt force trauma to her chest and an autopsy is scheduled for today.


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I've heard a manga film not anime is supposed to be made does anyone know owt about this?
a manga film???wich manga."people do not need violence to solve there problems."
I'm not quite sure i think its supposed to be a street fighter alpha or a tekken or a ghost in the shell film. Have you heard anything about it?
i'll have to check it out,if i find out anything i'll tell you,...can you do the same?"people do not need violence to solve there problems."
there are a couple live action films that are coming up one of which will be gits "You know what you have to admire? A Catholic hit man who blesses himself just before he strangles someone."-George Carlin
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Taking Ecstasy to the point where you can't keep your eyes in the front of your head, your eyes are also jittering back and forth rapidly, your jaw looks like a cash register drawer, when you talk you sound like you have down syndrome, and at that moment, you wouldn't have it any other way.
holy crap am I rolling face!! Hey does anyone have a Newport?? Or some VapoRub??
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When you are high on ecstasy and everything feels so good that you want to roll your face on it.
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Add antique appeal to your fondant! Adorned with colorful peonies and lilies of the valley and gilded cages, your cakes will evoke a bygone era. Colette Peters' innovative brush embroidery techniques make petals and leaves look stitched, whether they're applied directly onto the cake or added on as three-dimensional gum-paste embellishments. You'll turn royal icing into a gilded, filigree cake cage to surround your masterpiece for a major wow! effect. And if you love Victorian cameo jewelry, you'll be charmed by Colette's antiqued and edible accoutrements.
Meet your instructor, Colette Peters, and learn more about the class.
Colette will show you how to use piping and a paintbrush to create beautiful flowers that look hand-embroidered.
See how to apply petal dust and work with edible markers to bring your creations to life.
Assemble a stunning, three-dimensional peony from petals made of gum paste.
Learn to use a rubber stamp to emboss your fondant, then add petals and leaves that have also been brush-embroidered. Your flower will go from two dimension to three for an amazing effect.
Wow your clients: Surround your creation with gilded filigree! Patience and a steady hand really pay off in this lesson.
Colette will show you how to build your cake tiers with dowels and foam boards before surrounding your creation with the show-stopping golden cage.
Create a cake with elegant Victorian damask patterns, using stripes and sponge painting. Colette will show you how!
You can add interest to your cake with teardrops, curlicues, pearls and piping. Evoke the charm of cameo jewelry for a nostalgic and elegant look.
Colette shares tips on antiquing your cake and offers some final thoughts on vintage cake creations.
"I love this class. So many techniques and creativity. The directions are detailed and easy to understand. I would very much recommend this class to decorators looking to raise their skill level. Thank you, Colette Peters, for all the instructions. Working on my first cake cage, so being able to go back and watch the class section I need is outstanding."
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Erik Meijer will present the evening keynote of YOW! 2012
Open Systems - Actors and Cloud
In this talk we will show how highly-available stateful Actors provide a flexible and easy to use programming model for the Cloud on the outside, while still allowing for the traditional programming models on the inside.
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on August 3, 2013 - 9:00 PM
The police academy taught Deputy Benjamin Pisa and his class of recruits how to handle someone with a serious mental illness.
Real life was different.
Pisa was fresh out of the academy and in his second day as a full-fledged patrol deputy when sent to check on an outdoorsman in Springville named Roger S. Duchnick.
Duchnick, an avid churchgoer with local roots, had been slipping for months. He was no longer just irritable, he was off his medication and threatening people.
Pisa was optimistic that he could help. But when the hunting knife came out, the academy's lessons no longer fit. Pisa had no time to talk, to connect, to slow things down. He felt his only choice was to shoot, to protect his partner who had been knocked to the ground.
That was almost seven years ago, but to Pisa it was like yesterday. His shouts to drop the blade. The resolve on Duchnick's face as he stood on that wooded slope. Squeezing the trigger. It's all seared in his memory.
"At the end of the day, you don't want to hurt anyone. You want to be problem-solvers," Pisa said.
"Unfortunately, when we showed up to speak to him, I don't think there was anything we could have said or done that was going to help."
Police academies in New York cover a lot of ground. But they leave young recruits short of the solid expertise they need to quell situations with severely mentally ill people who resist treatment and grow combative, delusional, afraid.
Officers will hone their skills over the years. Some will go through enhanced training or qualify for the special response teams that spring from a new attitude in police work. But most police will learn from trial and error, or from veteran cops and the mental health professionals they meet in the field.
Meanwhile, mentally ill people in New York and across the country will be tackled, pummeled, Tasered or shot if they threaten violence, act dangerously or refuse an order, even though studies show they are more likely to be crime victims than criminals, and more likely to be harmed by an officer than to harm one.
"Generally people with a mental illness, like my condition, they are not a danger to other people," said Sam, who was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia as a teenager and had the good sense to simply surrender a handgun when a police officer demanded it years ago.
Now in his 30s, he is doing well but doesn't want his full name used because his past makes it difficult to find a job.
"My thing is, I don't want to hurt anyone," he said. "I think people are trying to hurt me."
Critics of today's mental health system say it criminalizes mental illness by, among other things, dispatching paramilitary personnel as mental health responders and forcing jails to double as psychiatric centers.
People with a severe mental illness are three times more likely to be in jail or prison than a hospital, according to the Treatment Advocacy Center in Arlington, Va. For police, a common life-or-death decision now involves someone with a mental health problem displaying a weapon.
The Buffalo News attended basic training in Erie and Niagara counties and saw future cops who seemed to appreciate the positive role they can play. They wanted to know more. They left the academy with good intentions about helping someone in a crisis.
But over the years, some cops get ground down by the volume of calls involving people whose brains work differently. As Pisa said in an interview: "It seems like every day we are dealing with, to a varying degree, either some mentally ill person or an emotionally disturbed person. It is becoming a bigger part of the job."
'My only option'
The deputies found Roger Duchnick, 52, walking to his mother's house on a rolling, wooded section of Springville-Boston Road. He strode away from them almost immediately. He told them over his shoulder that he hadn't killed anyone, and they could do nothing to stop him, Pisa said.
When Duchnick bounded up the driveway, Pisa's partner grabbed Duchnick by an arm. Out swung the blade. The partner, Deputy James Mirusso, fell as he dodged the weapon.
Duchnick loomed over Mirusso as Mirusso started sliding down an embankment. Pisa was left to assume that Mirusso had been stabbed – it turned out he was stunned but not cut – and to wonder if Duchnick would plunge the knife into the man at his feet.
Pisa recalls today that Duchnick, even when hit by three rounds, squared off at him.
"I was, quite honestly, pretty scared," said Pisa, a military veteran of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
"I fired on him again, and that was the time he went down."
Duchnick lived with paranoid schizophrenia for most of his adult life. Detectives who later searched his apartment found the stove sitting in the living room and obscenities painted across the television screen. They found no food. His prescription vials were outdated.
A doctor who practiced medicine in Springville for years told detectives, according to their report, that Duchnick was "extremely schizophrenic" and his behavior was "much stranger than normal" when seen in church 10 months earlier.
A deputy who dealt with Duchnick during a disorderly person complaint in May 2006 noted that he was "very delusional and confrontational — use caution." Months later, on Dec. 1, 2006, deputies were told that he was "off his meds" and "acting strange lately." Then on Dec. 31, Pisa and his training partner were told Duchnick had been acting especially bizarre in recent days and was scaring people. They needed to check on him.
When the shooting loops through Pisa's mind, he asks himself how he could have avoided gunfire.
He always lands in the same place.
"If I game-play this a million times," he said, "my only option was to use force."
"In no way am I speaking ill or harshly of the training that I received in the academy," he added later. "I don't know that any academy is equipped to fully train a new police officer to deal with any situation, especially one when you are dealing with mentally ill or severely emotionally disturbed individuals."
Role playing
"I don't want to hear police jargon," an instructor said. "I want to hear empathy from your voice."
Recruits at the Niagara County police academy early this year were drilled on what they would do with an Iraq War vet in a flashback, a suicidal man with a shotgun pointed up to his chin, a wanderer who calls the park her home and lives off nickels from returnable bottles.
The students were rapt as each scenario was acted out: A depressed fellow lost his wife and his job, so his friends called police to say he might kill himself. A young man with bipolar disorder grabbed a hammer to stress to police that he's not going to a hospital.
This is much like police academy instruction looked 20 years ago because the curriculum on mental illness has changed little in a generation. Depending on the academy, it consumes just 14 to 21 hours of New York's more than 600-hour academy program. Further, it lumps in the "emotionally disturbed" – a catch-all that covers people high on drugs or drink or temporarily beset with hardship.
Aside from classroom lectures, local recruits question experts in the field and cops with stories to tell. They hear from people with a mental illness, usually with videos. In one, the late Green Bay Packer Lionel Aldridge describes how the onset of paranoid schizophrenia after his playing days left him homeless and in fear of a malady he did not understand.
After the classroom instruction, recruits must think on their feet for a few hours of mock-ups simulating the dangers and judgment calls they will likely face. Days later, it's out to the streets, alongside experienced officers.
In Niagara County, Deputy Tony Goupil played the war veteran in a flashback, and he wasn't going to the hospital easily. None of the police cadets, in their 20s, was a physical match for Goupil, who is barrel-chested with powerful shoulders. It's likely that force and less-than-lethal weapons would have come out.
Time and again, the instructors threw out surprises that caught their students flat-footed. When the suicidal man turned to reveal the shotgun under his chin, the recruits challenged in that scenario did not take cover. They were admonished and given a do-over. With the waif who called the park her home, a recruit insisted on taking her against her will to a hospital but without seeing behavior dangerous to self or others, a crucial threshold in the Mental Hygiene Law.
Afterward, Deputy Ray Needle, who had played that suicidal man with the shotgun, said quietly that the curriculum should be expanded to reflect newer dilemmas. Needle, a military veteran, was talking about the increasing number of calls involving veterans home from war. A veteran in the United States commits suicide nearly every hour, the Department of Veterans Affairs estimated in a 2012 study.
Instructors constantly remind recruits to think about safety: Can you see his hands? Are guns in the house? Should others in the house or nearby be in handcuffs for the moment?
"For your safety and mine," the cop will explain.
James Swift helped drive the instruction. He's a part-time faculty member at the academy and a mental health professional who has rolled on many calls with police. He told the cadets that when they are finally on the job, they and their partners should debrief each other after calls involving people with a mental illness.
"You are going to make mistakes for the next 20 or 30 years," he told them. "Learning from them will make you better."
18 minutes. 83 seconds
You could hear a pin drop when Buffalo Officer Robert Yeates talked to 40 recruits at the Erie Community College Law Enforcement Training Academy about the horror at 195 Esser St. one year ago.
Yeates, tan and fit, has the relaxed look of a cop who, after 20-plus years on the job, gets plenty of vacation time. His bosses rib him about it, and he repeated their jokes to the academy class, lightening the mood at first.
He then turned surprisingly frank about the calamity in Black Rock and his confrontation with a stout 38-year-old grandmother named Charlene Fears.
Fears usually doted on her trusting 4-year-old grandson, but on that day she was out of control. For no known reason, she laid the boy on a bed and fatally stabbed him through the chest several times.
Yeates happened by in his patrol car minutes later.
On the front porch, two women held bloody towels to the boy's wounds as he gasped for breath. Told that the attacker was inside, Yeates stepped out of the sunshine and into the living room intending to subdue and arrest the grandmother. But when she paced toward him raising a knife in each hand and challenging him to shoot her, he fired twice, killing her instantly.
"I was put in a position where I was out of options," Yeates said.
Days after the deaths, a dream made Yeates bolt upright in bed.
In the dream, Charlene Fears looks up from the floor to ask, "Why did you shoot me?"
"You killed your grandson," he responds.
"Get my daughter Tiffany," she tells him.
Yeates tells her he won't.
Tiffany Fears, the child's mother, is busy trying to keep little Manny's life from slipping away.
"She is trying to save her little boy," he explains.
"Get me something to write on," Charlene Fears says in the dream.
In floats the hand of a lieutenant with a yellow legal pad. Fears scrawls out the suicide note that, in real life, she had left upstairs. Then she smears the note with blood running from the wrists that she slashed – again in real life – some time before Yeates arrived.
Detectives concluded that Charlene Fears – struggling with depression and bipolar disorder and not taking her lithium – wanted to die.
JonMichael Mulderig was a probationary officer and Yeates' partner that day – a newbie just out of the academy and 18 minutes into the job when the patrol car braked to a stop on Esser Street. In video captured by a city crime camera, you can see Mulderig protect Yeates from behind as he goes in to arrest Fears.
At one point, her son, Darrell Fears Jr., tries to clamber over a railing and onto the porch.
Mulderig stops him quickly.
Yeates thinks it would have gone far worse for him had the anguished son distracted him or intervened. To Yeates, Mulderig made a huge difference.
In a display of how intense stress alters time perception, Mulderig insisted to Yeates weeks later that the standoff with Charlene Fears went on for 20 minutes or more, not the 83 seconds confirmed by time-stamped radio calls.
In their minds, the ECC recruits were putting themselves in Mulderig's shoes – a rookie injected into a fast-moving tragedy set off by a woman with a serious mental illness not taking her medicine.
"You don't think that's ever going to happen to you," one said later.
Since Aug. 1. 2012, Yeates has those dreams.
Sometimes they are about Charlene Fears but most often they are about Manny.
And Mulderig? He left police work for good.
Internal voices
Bonita S. Frazer spent the early part of her career with Erie County Crisis Services, which dispatches teams to crises involving someone mentally ill or emotionally disturbed.
Small and animated with wide eyes and a powerful voice, Frazer now teaches Erie County's recruits how to talk to someone who hears voices that no one else hears.
"What we ask them to do is to respond to the needs and feelings of the person rather than the actual delusion," said Frazer, who has anchored the class on responding to mentally ill and emotionally disturbed people for 20 years.
"For example, she said, "if somebody is delusional and they believe they are getting messages from the microwave oven, we don't want the officer to walk the person over to the microwave oven and open it up and prove to them there's no radio or other electronic equipment in there that's sending them messages. Because that doesn't work.
"If there is something in the environment that is upsetting to them, regardless of what that is, we ask them to either remove that person or item, or if that person or item can't be moved, we want to divert the person's attention from that item — to ask, why don't we talk over here? To create a barrier.
"We are not going to say, 'Yeah we hear the voices too,' " Frazer said.
A crucial lesson in any New York police academy centers on recognizing whether someone appears mentally ill and should go to a hospital against their will, often a flash point. Just two weeks ago, a resident of a Long Island group home died after being Tasered by police trying to get him to a psychiatric evaluation.
To force someone who appears mentally ill into a hospital, police must see dangerous behavior – consistent with a U.S. Supreme Court decision from 1975. Genevieve Rak, a Buffalo police officer who helps teach the class at the ECC academy, reminded recruits that police cannot take away someone's liberty merely for non-dangerous behavior that makes others uncomfortable.
While the requirement respects a person's freedom, families trying to coax or prod their loved ones into treatment see it as a catch-22 made worse by anosognosia, the condition that disrupts a seriously ill person's ability to recognize they even have a problem.
The catch 22: The police can't act if a person isn't dangerous. Only when they worsen and become dangerous – which no one wants – will the well-armed police force respond.
Sheila Clark saw something like this unfold last year with her son in Clinton County, north of Albany.
"We called the police twice. The police said that because he wasn't a threat to himself – even though I begged to differ – and he wasn't a threat to anyone else, we couldn't get him help,' she said.
Her son Dusty, a former Marine diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder, believed, among other things, that the CIA had a sniper trained on him. Each day seemed to bring some new delusion. But he had threatened no one, he was not a danger to himself, and he saw no problem with his behavior.
"My ex-husband and I both begged Dusty to go to the hospital. I kept saying, 'Don't you feel like there is something wrong with you?
"...He says, 'Mom, I don't feel there's anything wrong with me.' "
Finally, the police arrived – for the wrong reason. Two Clinton County deputies sought to arrest him in December for failing to appear in court for his traffic tickets. Clark, 28, pulled out a knife. The deputies first tried to Taser him, and when that didn't work and the struggle continued, he was shot dead.
It's a given that police almost always respond first to calls triggered by someone mentally ill. Even when a mental health agency takes the lead, the staff often asks police to join them if they sense a chance for violence.
Many police departments, irreversibly planted in this role, have become more aggressive in redirecting the people they encounter toward treatment. They are exceeding the letter of the Mental Hygiene Law because they don't want to let someone worsen for an ugly encounter that might be weeks or months down the road.
New culture
When local police and patient advocates are asked how police can do better with the mentally ill – to avoid violent clashes for one thing – they mention "crisis intervention teams."
Then the discussion comes around to Eric Weaver.
Weaver in 2004 commanded such a team in Rochester, the first of its kind in New York to devote trained police specialists to calls for suicidal people or someone mentally ill and in turmoil.
Weaver is open about his past.
Hospitalized for suicidal intent seven times, Weaver, too, has sparked calls to police.
Now retired from the police force, Weaver talks nationwide about the value of crisis intervention training, and he helps departments set up their own teams.
He believes mental illness creates more demands on police departments than most administrators realize. He also sees an avoidable tension between police and people with a mental illness: They generally deal with each other only during trying situations.
"Every time someone has called 911 they are in what? They are in crisis," Weaver said. "Officers really never respond to the millions and millions of people with mental illnesses who are doing just fine."
Similarly, police deal with someone mentally ill only on their bad days.
"The only time each other deals with each other is when they are in a crisis," Weaver said. "And that's never a good time to judge someone."
In theory, crisis intervention changes that. The teams were pioneered in Memphis, Tenn., 25 years ago amid the public uproar that followed a police decision to shoot and kill a suicidal man who moved toward them with a knife. Many departments nationwide installed teams as studies showed that an officer trained in crisis intervention is less likely to use force and more likely to stay safe than one without the training.
No Erie County department turned to crisis intervention until this spring, when Cheektowaga became the first. Many local departments, though, call on experts at Erie County Crisis Services as needed, and some departments, Orchard Park's for example, assign an officer to follow up with mentally ill people who generated calls for help.
The concept is not complicated. After a 40-hour course, officers trained in crisis intervention are more skilled at calming situations, and they accompany patrol cops to a scene. The officers know which social agencies to call for a particular need, and they firmly try to steer someone toward a program. Perhaps most importantly, those experts follow up with the person days or weeks later, regardless of whether the person called police again.
Assorted mental health agencies can do the same thing. But none blankets the community and is as likely to encounter a person in crisis, like police.
Departments placing their faith in crisis intervention feel no need to back off if they don't spot the dangerous-behavior element that empowers them to force someone to a hospital. For example, when an elderly Cheektowaga woman kept reporting that her home had been burglarized when it hadn't been, town police realized she was delusional. But she was not dangerous.
Rather than drive off to await her next call, the officers called Crisis Services, which could look into her history and had broader legal power to take her to Erie County Medical Center for an evaluation, said Cheektowaga Lt. Brian Gould, a key figure in the town's decision to train its officers in crisis intervention.
Would it have helped?
When considering how warning signs went off through 2006, Weaver theorizes that a crisis intervention team might have prevented the New Year's Eve standoff on that wooded slope in Springville, when Roger Duchnick pulled a knife on two sheriff's deputies and was shot.
"No matter how decompensated, he is still responsible for this behavior, and the officers responded in the way they were trained to do," Weaver said when told what occurred between Duchnick and deputies Pisa and Mirusso. "It's anybody's guess whether something would have changed. But yet at the same time, maybe we could have gotten him some help before he decompensated so tremendously."
The key would have been in sending someone to talk to Duchnick earlier in his downturn even when no one – not Duchnick nor a neighbor or friend – had asked a law enforcement agency to do so. It's a step that many smaller departments would not take when personnel already are stretched thin.
"I would assign follow-up to officers," Weaver said of his time as a sergeant heading the Rochester unit. "I would say, 'Look we have dealt with this guy three times. I really don't want there to be a fourth time. And every time we have dealt with this guy for the last three times, he was getting worse and worse and worse.
" 'I want a team of officers to respond out to his house to check on him again.' "
Weaver said he would expect them to find a way to get the person to a hospital for an evaluation or to connect him to a mental health provider and to check back again as time passed.
He said the mission would have been: "How can we prevent something bad from happening?"
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NEW ORLEANS � Even Brian Roberts couldn�t believe the performance he delivered to help end Denver�s 15-game winning streak.
Starting for only the second time, the rookie doubled his season high with 18 assists, Ryan Anderson scored 23 points, and the short-handed New Orleans Hornets beat the Nuggets 110-86 on Monday night.
�It�s crazy to fathom, having 18 assists,� Roberts said. �Guys play years and don�t have that many assists. Somebody pointed out I had more assists than they had as a team. For me to come out in my second start and do that is just a testament to my teammates making shots.�
And to Roberts� work ethic, too. He never had 10 assists in four years at the University of Dayton, where he was more of a scorer than a facilitator. Then he spent five years trying to make an NBA roster before hooking on with the Hornets last summer, re-working his game to become a pass-first player.
Eleven of those passes turned into assists in the first half alone against the Nuggets, who finished with four fewer assists than Roberts. He became the 20th rookie to have 18 assists or more and the first since Darren Collison did it for New Orleans in 2010.
�I�ve had to grind and just fight to be on the team just to make an opportunity for myself,� Roberts said. �It�s something I know I don�t take for granted. But without my teammates making shots, it�s not even a discussion.�
Anderson was 5 of 11 on 3-pointers, and the Hornets sank 14-of-25 3s overall. Darius Miller, starting in place of injured shooting guard Eric Gordon, was 4 of 5 behind the arc and had 16 points as seven Hornets scored in double figures.
New Orleans won its third in a row and was in control all the way. The Hornets led by nine at the end of the first quarter, by 21 at the half and by 18 entering the fourth.
Danilo Gallinari had 24 points for the Nuggets, who were without starting point guard Ty Lawson (right heel injury) for the third consecutive game. Denver lost for the first time since Feb. 22 against Washington after matching its 1969-70 ABA team�s record of 15 consecutive victories.
�We played a bad game, and they played a great game,� said Nuggets point guard Andre Miller, who had nine points and six assists. �We were constantly taking the ball out of the basket and getting frustrated. Our game plan was to trap the ball, and their point guard found the open man. They outplayed us and outworked us at both ends.�
The Hornets answered every Nuggets run, the last of which closed the gap to 96-84 when Kenneth Faried hit a tough bank shot and was fouled with 6:07 left. New Orleans� Anthony Davis followed with two free throws, Darius Miller drained a face-up 3-pointer, and Davis leaped high to jam in a rebound follow, extending the lead to 103-84.
The closest Denver came in the second half was 67-58 after a 16-4 spurt midway through the third quarter. But the Hornets� Roger Mason Jr. immediately hit back-to-back 3-pointers, and New Orleans was up by double digits the rest of the way.
This one never was close.
The Hornets went ahead 25-11 in the first quarter, getting back-to-back, wide-open 3-pointers from Anderson to cap the early run against the sluggish Nuggets. No one picked up Anderson, who led the NBA in 3-point baskets last season, when he shot from straightaway on the first one. Denver left him unguarded again as he made another 3 the next time down the court.
The Nuggets� winning streak was well on its way to ending.
�We didn�t really talk about that too much,� Roberts said. �We had a lot of stuff going on in here in this locker room, so we didn�t want to worry about streak busting or anything like that. We just wanted to come out and play together.�
Denver missed Lawson, who had averaged 21.8 points in his last 18 games, much more than New Orleans missed starting point guard Greivis Vasquez or Gordon.
�He�s important to us because he makes everyone else fit,� Nuggets coach George Karl said. �These last three games we were thinking we are better than we are. It�s human nature.�
Wilson Chandler returned for the Nuggets after missing two games with a left shoulder injury and finished with 11 points. Faried added 13 points.
Gordon, who is tied for the team lead with 16.5 points per game, sat out with a sore left ankle. Vasquez sat out with a sprained left ankle after starting the first 70 games.
Roberts, who added 13 points for his first double-double, and Miller, who was 6 of 7 from the floor, excelled in their absence.
�A lot of times this year we�ve let teams come back after we got ahead of them,� Darius Miller said. �We didn�t want to do that (Monday). They went on a great run and had us on our heels a little bit, but we bounced back.�
Most of Miller�s baskets came off of passes from Roberts.
�It doesn�t happen if he (Roberts) doesn�t work hard,� Hornets coach Monty Williams said. �He works his tail off.�


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These big-eyed chicks will steal the show at your Easter table or on a buffet! Our Test Kitchen staff took a little artistic license with a recipe shared by field editor Tami Escher of Dumont, Minnesota...and came up with these clever chicks.
- 12 hard-cooked eggs
- 1/2 cup mayonnaise
- 1/2 cup shredded Parmesan cheese
- 2 teaspoons finely chopped onion
- 1/2 teaspoon curry powder
- 1/2 teaspoon prepared mustard
- 1/8 teaspoon pepper
- 3 pimiento-stuffed olives
- 1 small sweet red pepper
- Cut a thin slice from the bottom of each egg so it sits flat. Cut a zigzag pattern a third down from the top of each egg. Carefully remove yolks and place in a small bowl; mash with a fork. Add the mayonnaise, Parmesan cheese, onion, curry, mustard and pepper; stir until well blended. Spoon yolk mixture into the egg white bottoms; replace tops.
- Cut olives into slices for eyes. Cut 12 small triangles from red pepper for beaks. Gently press the eyes and beaks into egg yolk filling. Chill until serving. Yield: 1 dozen.
Originally published as Cute Egg Chicks in Taste of Home April/May 2003, p22
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Reviewed May. 27, 2012
"These are adorable, however, this was very labor intensive. Also the eyes kept falling off. They came out very cute, but I probably wouldn't make them again. The flavor was average."
Reviewed Mar. 30, 2010
"I love this recipe. I made it a few years for members of my husband's family and my co-workers.Everybody loved it and they were so happy if I made it again.The chicks were so cute even it had a lot of work. Some year, I was lazy, I just cut the eggs in half instead of making the whole cute chicks.I love it. You should try it, too."


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