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Kansas City is focused on Sean Marshall and Mike Fontenot in talks with the Cubs about Mark Teahen. …
That is according to a Phil Rogers article.
That's great, I'm focused on solving world peace after I cure cancer, which will all happen after I retire at age 35 because the charming widow across the street is really the heir to the Buffett family fortune and appreciates when I roll her garbage can up her driveway on Tuesdays.
Let's just say I don't see either one happening.
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I wouldn't give up Marshall alone for Teahen...but maybe Fonte.
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Word, my cracka'. I'd probably do Fontenot, because he's really a backup (a good back-up, mind you), and Teahen still has more of that so-called potential. He could still turn into a good everyday player, but if not, he'd be a pretty good bench dude. Maybe.
Someone here also mentioned Hendry's knack for getting guys right before they break out, so I've got that hope.
I'd rather turn Marquis into something...even if it's a loogy...and using Marshall as a 4th or 5th. The other spot being reserved for Harden.
Or maybe we can turn Marquis and Theriot into Hanley?
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Didn't the Cubs already try Jody Gerut? That went well.
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He had a great year last year though. If we had him NOW, we might just roll with that as our LH-hitting option.
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It wasn't like Gerut didn't work out for the Cubs. He was just never here long enough to show what he could really do. IIRC, he was still healing from an injury when we got him.
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Believe you're right. He was still wearing that big ass DonJoy knee brace under his pinstripes after his ACL tear if I recall properly.
Although I'm a Tribe fan too, so that could have been when he was with them
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i think KC (rumor mongers) might underestimate how much both hendry and lou are fonte-fans.
weird looking and weirder talking little guy.
i could see either/or (fonte/marshall), but both would be a high price especially with cedeno falling flat on his face in winter ball so far.
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I think the time is right to strike on a Fontenaught trade, if anyone seems him as a full-time major league starter. Keep in mind this is a guy who played in the highest levels of collegiate baseball and then took 7 years to get establihed in the majors. He's got 2700 PA's minor league PA's of .800 OPS on his record and doesn't have much to offer other than a pretty good dead pull line drive stroke.
I'm not a fan of Teahen unless, as I mentioned a few days ago, the Cubs coaches and scouts are sure his power stroke can be fixed.
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Buy low, sell high. Trade DeRosa, not Fontenot. They're the same hitter, and you get more for DeRosa. And Fontenot's younger, although a lot of people who participate here will scratch their heads and wonder why that should make a difference. Isn't older better?
Strange, Neal, that you think Fontenot is a dead pull hitter.
And speaking of youth, I love the way Billy Beane got Hendry to "throw in" Donaldson as the fourth player in that Harden-Gallagher deal. In public, other GMs rave about what a nice guy Hendry is. I wonder what they say in private.
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dont think anyone treated donaldson as a "throw-in"
both teams knew his potential i'd imagine.
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I stand corrected. He's a 'tries to be' pull hitter. Teams would be wise to do the Ted Williams shift when he comes up. 8 of his 12 HR' have been to right or right center.
Regardless, he's not a .900 OPS player, so if we can find a team that thinks he is and will trade accordingly for him, make the deal.
DeRosa isn't going anywhere.
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fontenot has 1.4 years of service time and another 2-3 wikid cheap years left.
and not many people are .900 OPS players...especially low-medium power guys like fontenot. soriano's done it twice.
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[Did it again. This was a reply to #27.]
I know DeRosa isn't going anywhere. Believe me, I know it. The question is why. There are four right-handed hitters who usually bat ahead of DeRosa in the lineup. Three of them have NTCs and the other is Soto. So if you want to be more left-handed (hitting and pitching), isn't DeRosa the guy you have to trade?
I know he's good. So what? That just means you get something good, or better, for him, but something more along the lines of what you're missing.
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I am pretty sure that you may be the only person that watches baseball who may believe that Fontenot and DeRosa are the same player, and have similar levels of abilities.
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These are the things that DeRosa can do that Fontenot cannot (or hasn't shown the ability to).
1. Play SS
2. Play 3rd
3. Play 1st
4. Play RF
5. Play LF
6. Hit Lefties
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If you have a left-handed hitting right fielder, which the Cubs are apparently looking for, and Fontenot at second, what purpose is served by DeRosa playing third and first and right and left? Those positions are taken.
As to short, according to BR, DeRosa played one game there in 2008 and one in 2007. Fontenot played one game at short in 2008 and three in 2007.
I'm not knocking DeRosa, although it's hard for people to understand that when you suggest trading someone. It's just that he's another right handed hitter on a team that (a) claims to be too right handed and (b) has passed out NTCs like candy to the other righty hitters.
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If this were the Oakland A's and not the Chicago Cubs, then your recommendation to trade DeRosa would be spot on.
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"everyone with a brain"--are you excluding TCR regulars? Because I don't recall anyone on TCR lamenting the loss of Donaldson, who wasn't hitting at the time. Or Gallagher, for that matter. The consensus seemed to be that Gallagher was balanced pretty well by Gaudin, and the Cubs had gotten Harden basically for nothing. Poor Billy Beane, trying to match wits with our guy.
(Full disclosure: AZ Phil liked Donaldson the minute he saw him and rated him as the Cubs' best hitting prospect; but that was not part of the discussion after the trade, unless I missed something.)
When Harden was scheduled for a shoulder exam in October, voices on this blog agreed that if surgery was indicated, the Cubs should not renew his option. Harden's Cub career would have spanned twelve games. Shoulder surgery or not, a Harden who lost his good fastball in time for the playoffs was not what we had expected, but I don't recall anyone on TCR saying, Maybe it wasn't such a good trade after all.
Hendry should be called to task for these things, preferably before the winter meetings, because he's getting ready to trade more prospects.
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What exactly should Hendry be called to task for on this one? Because he didn't rob the A's blind? You have to give up something to get something. In this case Hendry basically gave up Gallagher and the potential of Donaldson for Harden and Gaudin. He threw in two players - Murton and Patterson - who didn't have much of a place in the organization and likely won't be much of anything at the big league level.
He got a starting pitcher with an ERA+ of 252!! for 12 starts during the stretch run in a season in which the team was making a run for the playoffs. This pitcher, when healthy is one of the best in the majors, and he is still under club control for next year, unlike Sabathia, for example. In the same deal he also obtained Chad Gaudin, a long-reliever, spot starter, who is also under club control. And he should not have made this deal because Donaldson MIGHT become something 3-4 years down the road? Because he is having a good AFL season?
Here is a list of prospects that Hendry has traded away to date (I will have all of this uploaded to Wiklifield at some point). He gave up very little and got a lot for these players. This is also not mentioning the many good prospects he has fleeced from others for crappy veterans. At this point I will trust his judgment - even if Donaldson turns out to be amazing a few years from now.
Ryan Gripp
Jae Kuk Ryu
David Noyce
Gary Johnson
Derrin Ebert
Wilton Chavez
Ronald Bay
Jason Dubois
Travis Ezi
Hee Seop Choi
Matt Bruback
Bobby Hill
Jason Fransz
Mike Nannini
Felix Sanchez
Damian Jackson
Jimmy Anderson
Justin Jones
Francis Beltran
Brendan Harris
Sergio Mitre
Renyel Pinto
Ricky Nolasco
Todd Wellemyer
John Koronka
Carlos Vasquez
Jeremy Blevins
Clay Rapada
Buck Coats
Scott Moore
Rocky Cherry
Jacob Renshaw
Sean Gallagher
Josh Donaldson
Eric Patterson
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That's a remarkable list. Pinto and Nolasco are the only ones on there that I even remotely miss. I'm typically not very ctitical of the deals that Hendry makes, but I do really wish we had that Pierre deal back.
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There's a few guys there who have had nice season, Harris and Wellemeyer, for instance, but when you consider who those players brought back in return, I doubt there's a similarily tenured GM who could show the same, AND have the same reputation among his peers.
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Nice prospect list, but they're all pre-Wilken, except for Donaldson, who is the fifth highest pick (#48) in Wilken's three drafts. Wilken knows how to draft position players, so you trade them at your own risk. Before Wilken, the Cubs could occasionally draft a pitcher but almost never a position player, so it was safe to trade a Bobby Hill or a Choi if you could get somebody else to bite. With Wilken, the game has changed. Donaldson and Vitters and Colvin and Flaherty were not drafted to be traded.
How do you build a team around guys like Hamels and Rollins and Utley and Howard except by drafting them?
This Cub team isn't assembled right. It's built for the all-star game, not the playoffs. That's why, of eight teams in the playoffs, only the Cubs fell flat on their faces and embarrassed their fans. Even the Brewers won a game.
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This Cub team isn't assembled right. It's built for the all-star game, not the playoffs.
Here is the problem with this logic, along side with the rest of your thinking.
You place higher value on prospects than you do on players who are actually playing in the major leagues. Yet you claim that this team isn't built for the playoffs (which is bullshit, but that is a different discussion).
Essentially you say that this team needs to be changed, yet you believe that trading any prospect is foolish. You also have claimed in the past that a team should not be built through free agency.
So you want to the Cubs to sit on prospects that may or may not pan out (and the vast majority, on ANY team, do NOT pan out), even though you believe that this team cannot win in the playoffs.
But go ahead and believe that the Cubs have a world series team waiting to happen in the minor leagues, and I will go ahead and trust Hendry based on his track record of being very successful in the trading market and getting teams to the playoffs.
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The Phillies? This is the WORST example you could have picked. How is the Joe Blanton trade ANY different than the Rich Harden trade? You DO draft players to trade - or the Phillies would not have had Blanton or Brad Lidge, and likely would not have even made the playoffs.
You need good players to win. You can draft them, sign them, or trade for them. History has shown that the playoff gods care little where they came from, just that they play well at the right time.
There is no magic formula, and certainly the Phillies didn't do anything differently than any other team. The Cubs have homegrown talent (Soto, Zambrano, Marmol, Theriot), as well as those obtained by trading prospects (Ramirez, Lee, Harden), and those signed as free agents (Dempster, Lilly, Marquis, Fukudome).
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Soto was never a prospect. Out of nowhere, he had a great year in triple A and the season ended with him the starting catcher in the playoffs. It all happened too fast for Hendry to trade him, though he did find the time to trade their best minor-league lefty at the time for Jason Kendall.
Marmol, never a prospect. Theriot, nobody liked him except Piniella. (Zambrano I don't remember, it was a long time ago.)
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You're right. Those guys were never prospects, they just saw a 'Help Wanted' sign at Wrigley one day, walked in filled in an application and got an invite to ST.
If it is so easy to get these great prospects away from Hendry for s song,why are Marmol and Soto still Cubs?
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Now they're all-stars. My point is they didn't attract interest as minor leaguers. Soto hit .271 with 9 HRs in AA, then .253 with 4 HRs at Iowa, then .272 with 6 HRs at Iowa again. Returning for his third full year at Iowa in 2007, Soto was not even the #1 catcher. He and Koyie Hill alternated starts during the month of April. It was Hill, not Soto, who was called up and took over some of Michael Barrett's duties in early June after the dugout unpleasantness.
So, no, I don't think Hendry turned down many trade inquiries involving Soto the previous winter. By the following winter, lightning had struck: Soto had become PCL MVP and starting playoff catcher for the major-league team.
Lightning struck for Marmol in 2007 when he went to the bullpen. During that season he became a star. I will say there may have been scouts impressed with Marmol's arm at AA and AAA in 2006; but that same year, called up to the Cubs, his ERA was over six. As a Cub starter in 2006 he walked more batters than he struck out, 55-46. But to give Hendry the benefit of the doubt, he may have said no to some offers for Marmol.
I'm kind of in a bad mood with Hendry because I believe that in the next couple of weeks he's going to trade Felix Pie so that Fukudome can play center.
I will admit that Hendry has done a pretty good job of hanging on to Pie and Rich Hill, especially Hill, who was really hot a couple of seasons ago.
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yet hendry somehow had the knowledge to keep these "surprises" on the 40-man roster even though they weren't worth having before they became lightning-in-a-bottle.
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I will admit that Hendry has done a pretty good job of hanging on to Pie and Rich Hill, especially Hill, who was really hot a couple of seasons ago.
Wouldn't Pie and Hill be exhibits #1 and #2 on why Hendry SHOULD trade prospects when they are hot?
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I see you conveniently ignored my point about the Phillies trading prospects for key pieces of their championship team. That one flew right by you didn't it? Do you think Phillies fans are crying about not having Mike Costanzo's 27 HRs in AA instead of Brad Lidge?
I'd rather get a key piece to win now and let Pie suck elsewhere.
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Wisc, I never heard of Mike Costanzo until you mentioned him but he doesn't look like a great prospect. There's a line out the door of sluggers trying to grab one of the scarce jobs for first basemen in the majors. I didn't complain when the Cubs let Dopirak go and though I'm starting to like Jake Fox, Hendry can trade him any old day, it's fine with me, since he's also mainly a first baseman.
When you put up ridiculous numbers in every category, like Hoffpauir, that's a little different, although Hoffpauir could really use some outfield skills.
Costanzo is a .265 hitter in the minors. It would be nice if he could hit homers lefthanded while playing third in the majors, but he had 34 errors there in 2007. Then they traded him. The next year, the majority of his starts were at first, DH or (something new) catcher.
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I am going to go out on a limb and say he was generally considered a better prospect headed into 2008 than Soto was headed into 2007.
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Do some research man. Costanzo is currently the 6th ranked prospect in the entire Astro's organization after the Lidge trade. The Phillies traded Adrian Cardenas - their 2nd rated prospect according to BA, Josh Outman their 4th ranked prospect, AND Mathew Spencer their 2007 3rd round draft pick for Joe Blanton.
That's how it works. And you know what, maybe 1 of the 4 will even turn into something. And it's ok if any of them do, the Phillies won - which is the point of baseball.
Also, I've never gotten the fascination with Pie. He is basically Corey Patterson with less stealing ability and less HR ability. Good defensive centerfielders who strike out a lot are a dime a dozen. If Hendry can get high value for him to help us win now, I say trade him.
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pie's got CF speed and legwork...enough arm to pull RF if desired.
he's still young and his wrists/hands are VERY fast. that's not something you can teach, though you can bring it out tweaking your approach. when you have a guy with his frame who can swing a bat as hard/fast as he does through the zone (think: soriano) you got something very special for a starting point.
unfortunately, he's not one to sit around for a full selection of pitches looking to walk and his swing accuracy isn't mlb-strong yet (if ever).
basically, if you want a raw piece of clay to mold into a hitter...pie's some "good clay." doesn't guarantee anything, though...
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I fully understand why Pie is considered a prospect. I just think if your payroll is what the Cubs payroll is, there is no need to sit on a prospect like this if you can trade his potential for someone you know can play well at the big league level now.
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You probably don't want to hear a discussion of tools, but they're important, because if you have them you will keep getting second and third chances until you're Corey Patterson's age. Even a Corey Patterson can usually learn to hit by the age of 27. You can't teach a guy to run and catch and throw. Felix, like a cat, has many lives remaining, although probably only one (or none) with the Cubs.
"Good defensive centerfielders who strike out a lot" are not a dime a dozen, they're in demand if they have power--like Chris Young or Adam Jones. Pie is a big kid and getting bigger. He's what you're always looking for.
If all you can do is play first and maybe a little left field, good luck to you. A first baseman has to be the best hitter on the team, since anybody can catch most throws, even a Fielder or a Howard.
Even granting for the sake of argument that Costanzo can hit well enough to play first in the majors, Ryan Howard just turned 29 and is in, or entering, his prime. The Cubs don't have any young sluggers except Aramis (who is 30 and a half) and Soto. Soto certainly makes Welington Castillo tradeable. Vitters is not tradeable, though, because it may not be long before Ramirez has to get in the line for a first base or DH job. Lee, Soriano and Fukudome are getting to an age where you would like to trade them and go younger, at least in a world without NTCs.
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Phil - correction, Pie is not what I am always looking for, he's what YOU are always looking for. If I have learned anything in reading your posts it is that you are in love with minor leaguers who have any sort of potential, and dislike veterans. Any prospect that you like you argue they are big, fast, are growing, will only get better, have tools, etc. Any prospect you don't like you simply say that they are one dimensional, play the wrong position, are too old, etc. It's becoming a tired song.
In your world a team trades away all stars in their prime for prospects. The team also plays the prospects instead of any veterans. You just keep doing this. If the team sucks, the prospects are just learning and you should stick with them. If you lose the next year, repeat. If the players happen to all pan out (unlikely) and happen to gell in the same year, you might win. If the Cubs had done what you suggested for 2007 and 2008 they would have never even made the playoffs, and if they do what you suggest now they won't make them anytime soon.
You can have Chris Young and his .240 average. And Young is BETTER than Pie. By age 22 he had 3 seasons of more than 20 homeruns and 4 seasons of more than 20 SBs in the minors. Pie has had 0 and 1 respectively.
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Young was a .266 hitter in five years in the minors, so I'm not surprised by his hitting .240 in the majors. Pie's minor league average over seven seasons is .299, which is still not very good.
I didn't say I like Pie as a hitter, I like him as a prospect. And I didn't say I liked Chris Young, just that he strikes out a lot and is nevertheless in demand, i.e., not a dime a dozen.
Pie looked awful, and I certainly said so, in early 2008, but he was swinging the bat okay in September.
Fukudome, who will probably take Pie's place this season, had these numbers in the second half: .217/.314/.326, 639 OPS.
If I liked the current group of Cub veterans as much as you do, I probably wouldn't worry as much about prospects. I don't care for free agents, it's true.
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Jones hit 40 HR's in the minors. Young, as I recall was a 30/30 guy. It doesn't make any sense to compare them. May as well compare Pie to Willie Mays and Joe Dimagiio.
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again, Teahen suffered a season ending shoulder surgery in 2006. He hasn't been the same since. His OPS+ since then has dropped from
2006 -122
2007 -98
2008 -91
so I don't think the issue is his swing, it's his shoulder. How many hitters have made it back to normal strength after a shoulder injury? I can't think of any off of the top of my head, and I keep thinking of
Morgan Ensberg
who haven't. I wouldn't give up more than one of Fontenot or Cedeno for him and I wouldn't even do that unless KC is taking on at least half of his contract. I'd just assume stick Edmonds out in RF if he'll come back at a cheaper contract to at least just play against righties...Reed Johnson can cover the lefties since Fukudome hits lefties just as well/poorly as righties.
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To even consider giving up Marshall for that guy would make Hendry certifiably nuts - enough raiding our meager cupboard bare.
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Who would ride on Z's back if Fontegod were no longer here?
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Z has enough gnomes on his back w/o having to think of Fontenot too.
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Billingsley broke his fibula and they had to put a plate with screws to align the fracture.
This usually means his injury is in the realm of ankle fractures as the fibula is the bone on the outside of the ankle. If the fibula breaks higher up the leg it usually doesn't need surgery as up higher it's function is mostly for muscle attachments, but lower near the ankle it forms an important component of the ankle joint. Fibula fractures usually take 6 weeks to heal but add another 6 weeks to get the ankle joint to regain function from stiffness. More proximally in the leg, the larger tibia is the major weight bearing bone, so when it's broken the treatment usually keys on treating the tibia (the fibula fracture usually lines up once the tibia fracture is properly aligned) and tibia fractures take longer to heal, often 3-6 months or longer.
From end-November to spring training is only 3 months (albeit the longest 3 months of the year) so I'd say it's more likely that Billingsley will not be up to full speed to start spring training at the end of February. Also the hardware can be bothersome even after the fracture has healed since there isn't much tissue to pad things between the skin and the plate. The plate/screws can be removed with a 2nd surgery, that probably won't be an option until a minimum of 6 months after the fracture is healed, so that might be a consideration for him in the 2009 offseason.
He should have lost nlds game 2 instead of incurring the wrath of the baseball gods.
more Wrath of the Baseball Gods...
if I were Ned Coletti, I'd hire some security guards for Kuroda.
It is not known if Billingsley's injury will impact the Dodgers' offseason restocking plans. They already have suffered free-agent departures of pitchers Derek Lowe, Brad Penny, Greg Maddux, Chan Ho Park, Joe Beimel and Jason Johnson. The only pitcher in the Dodgers' starting rotation for the entire 2008 season that is still on the roster and healthy is Hiroki Kuroda.
(from the mlb link in post #21)
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you do not trade marshall unless you are getting
a proven power hitting r-fielder.
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I don't think the Royals would give up Teahen for Marshall. What do the Cubs want with Teahen anyways?
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Would Cedeno for Mark Teahen be fair or is it lopsided?
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Before those anti-Marquis fans run him out of Chicago on a rail, tell me who goes into the 5th spot of the rotation and: pitches 175+ innings, 30 starts, ERA < 4.75, and team wins at least half his starts, has 11-12 wins. Who? Marshall? We HOPE so. Smardzija? Based on what? Unless the Cubs get Peavy, Randy Johnson then I don't see a better rotation than Z, Dempster, Lilly, Harden, and Marquis.
Also, getting Teahen is great if all it costs is some combination of Cedeno, Fontenot, Hoffpauir, and Wuertz/Hart. Marshall part of the deal.......hell, no.
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i would say wuertz and cedeno
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Submitted by George Altman on Sat, 11/22/2008 - 10:21pm.
Before those anti-Marquis fans run him out of Chicago on a rail, tell me who goes into the 5th spot of the rotation and: pitches 175+ innings, 30 starts, ERA < 4.75, and team wins at least half his starts, has 11-12 wins. Who? Marshall? We HOPE so. Smardzija? Based on what? Unless the Cubs get Peavy, Randy Johnson then I don't see a better rotation than Z, Dempster, Lilly, Harden, and Marquis.
GEORGE: I agree that Jason Marquis is a reliable 5th starter, but if you combine what the 11 Cubs players already signed for 2009 will be getting ($121M+), and what the six arbitration eligible players will probably get if all are tendered & offered arbitration (at least $12.5M aggregate, with Kevin Gregg likely to get at least $5M, Chad Gaudin and Reed Johnson $2M each, Neal Cotts $1.5M, Michael Wuertz about $1.25M, and Ronny Cedeno at least $750K), and what the eight auto-renewal players who are needed to fill-out the 25-man roster will get ($400K MLB minimum salary in 2009, so about $3.5M aggregate for the eight auto-renewal guys), the Cubs are going to have a payroll of somewhere around $137M+ even if they don't make another move. So one of Hendry's primary goals almost certainly has got to be trading Jason Marquis and hoping another club (perhaps the Yankees if the can't sign all the starters they feel they need) will acquire Marquis and take back most or all of his $9.875M 2009 salary so that the near-$10M can be re-directed to an established lefthanded hitting outfielder and back-up catcher.
Depending on what Jim Hendry's 2009 payroll budget is, some of the arbitration-eligible guys might have to get non-tendered on 12/12 (or traded before 12/12), too.
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Phil, I agree with your point.......it should would help to know what the Cubs payroll budget is for 2009. I believe if the Cubs are patient, they will get someone (Yankees would be one) to take Marquis' full salary. This would make it all the more important not to include Marshall or Samardzija in a deal unless it was for a blue-chip LH hitting Rf or B. Roberts to play 2B.
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Speaking of Hendry, when the Cubs gave Dempster 4/52, wasn't Hendry, as usual, bidding against himself?
Didn't he offer Dempster those terms before the bidding started? And then when no other team made an offer, Hendry let the original offer stand?
He really is a nice guy.
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And you know that how?
Most people believe that the 4/52 is a relative steal for Dempster.
Carlos Silva essentially got the same deal.
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There were 12 pitchers in 2008 that already earned more than the $13 million average of Dempster's contract:
Randy Johnson, $15 million
Mike Hampton, $15 million
Tim Hudson, $15 million
John Smoltz, $14 million
Mark Buerhle, $14 million
Andy Pettite, $16 million
A.J. Burnett, $13 million
Carlos Zambrano, $16 million
Roy Oswalt, $13 million
Jason Schmidt, $15 million
Johann Santana, $16 million
Barry Zito, $14 million
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common consensus is if you wait til jan/feb that dumpster deal is gonna look like steal money-wise.
guys like burnett and lowe are already looking higher $$ demands without even bringing cc/sheets/etc. into the mix.
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On the open market Dempster would have gotten a 4 year $60 million deal.
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That's basically what Hendry said, Neal. But then, Hendry would say that.
Hendry added that there were "no doubts in any of our minds that Ryan would've exceeded this deal on the streets three or four weeks from now, the way the market is for starting pitching."
My question was simply, if nobody else made an offer for Dempster, how does Hendry know he didn't overpay?
Dempster himself indicates that nobody else made a bid in the five days or so that he was free to receive offers:
"Was there more money on the open market? I'm sure there probably was. Maybe there was five years. That's a question that I'll never be able to answer."
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Of course he doesn't know for 100% sure that he didn't overpay, but are you really arguing this? With guys like Barry Zito sitting on $126 million, you're worried about Ryan Dempster's contract?
I'm pretty sure Hendry wasn't worried about other teams when he made his offer. He probably wanted to make an offer that he felt was fair and that he was comfortable with. Dempster accepted that offer without waiting to field other offers because a) he felt it was fair, and b) he wanted to stay in Chicago.
The fact that Hendry doesn't absolutely know some other team would have offered 5 - $60m is completely irrelevant.
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The problem here is that VA Phil thinks that Hendry should not only be omniscient, but he should also have a time machine. This is the way that VA Phil thinks you should deal with a FA. Correct me if I am wrong.
1. Offer him the major league minimum salary until some team offers him more.
2. Assuming that he will still talk to you, unlikely after #1, after another team offers him a contract that is more years and money than you're willing to commit to, offer him a contract for less years and money, then see what happens.
3. After he has signed a FA contract with the New York Mets for 4 years and $61 million dollars, use your Wayback Machine to go back in time to November 18th and offer him a 3 year $30 million contract.
4. Eventually settle on a 4 year $48 million deal, before the Mets make an offer.
You've got to take what you know into account. Pitchers like Llhose and Silva are making in excess of $10 million annually. Teams that strike out on Sabathia and Llowe are going to then turn their attention, and a large portion of the money they've slotted for the off-season to Burnett and Dempster.
On this crazy thing called the internet, there's no professional baseball analyst or reporter suggesting that Dempster robbed the Cubs. Don't you find that curious?
Re: Delusions of Grandeur
I didn't say the Cubs overpaid for Dempster. I am curious whether he would have received other offers. Apparently he didn't receive any offers in the five days after he put a sign in the window, Open for Business.
Here are what I think are facts:
1) Dempster risked his Cub offer--since the Cubs were negotiating for Peavy at the time and could have changed their mind--in order to test the market.
2) So he tested the market. But when he stuck his toe in, the water was cold.
3) After five days, he grabbed the Cub offer, which Hendry had kept warm for him.
If these are the facts, and reporters don't find them interesting enough to mention, that's between them and their bartenders.
Re: Delusions of Grandeur
Your #2 is not a fact.
#2 should read: His agents fielded some calls, and got an idea what teams would be interested in him, but also that he was considered a backup plan to some other players, namely Lowe. Who is expected to command $16 to $18 million if he goes to the higest bidder. The agent then reasoned "If Lowe makes $17 million, my guy should be able to get about $14 to $15 million if he goes mercenary. I think I can get the Cubs up to $13 million and four years, which is what my client prefers, so I will work on that."
Your number 3 also probably is not correct. Hendry probably made an initial offer of around 3 years and $38 million.
Re: Delusions of Grandeur
Starting pitchers who make 10+ million a year (based on 2008 salaries), thus making me comfortable with the Dumpster 13 million for four years..
Jake Westbrook 10m
Matt Morris 10.03m
Kevin Millwood 10.3m
Vicente Padilla 11m
Carl Pavano 11m
Gil Meche 11.4m
Jon Garland 12m
AJ Burnett 13.2m
Barry Zito 14.5m
Jason Schmidt 15.2m
Tim Hudson 15.5m
Mike Hampton 16m
Their salaries for just 2008, so some of these could be in escelating contracts in their contract year, but still. I'm okay with 13m for 4 years with Dump. Remember Marquis made 6.375m, i'd rather have one Dumpster than two marquis...
Re: Delusions of Grandeur
This is all a well though out plan except for the fact that Jim Hendry is fresh out of flux capacitors and Doc Emmet Brown is nowhere to be found.
Re: Delusions of Grandeur
found this blog writeup bandying possible trade scenerios between the Cubs and Royals (mentioning Teahen/DeJesus vs Pie/Cedeno/Fontenot, but not discussing Marshall).
Color me unimpressed with Tea-bad and marginally interested in DeJesus. Hopefully Hendry finds another trade partner.
Re: Delusions of Grandeur
The stats say that DeJesus isn't a very good centerfielder or baserunner. My experience watching him live was that he had trouble reading fly balls to left field, but that's left field and that was in Arizona. Based on that, I can agree with the marginal interest comment. He'd most likely wind up as a platoon with Johnson in center, and be taken out late for defense.
I'm sure I was reading an article in Oakland this summer that Beane stated " he wouldnt have made the deal if Donaldson wasnt in the deal". Hendry made the right deal and give the Cubs credit for drafting him which was key in making the deal and getting Harden. Perhaps we can keep drafting these type players and having them ready for future deals.
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A "new stats" look at Mussina and the HoF debate:
Re: Delusions of Grandeur
That 4/48 has bad contract written all over it.
Re: Delusions of Grandeur
Unless they give him Tejada's old locker with his "stuff " in it.
Re: Delusions of Grandeur
Didn't Tejada also put together about five seasons without missing a game? If Furcal could do that, I'd be closer to the bandwagon on signing him.
Re: Delusions of Grandeur
The most seasons in a row Furcal has put together without missing significant time is 2.
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MLBTraderumors says the Giants signed Renteria. That takes them out of the Furcal, running, I imagine.
2 yrs. for $18M.
Re: Delusions of Grandeur
they just love them some old shortstops don't they?
Re: Delusions of Grandeur
Let me correct that for you...
"they just love them some old [players] don't they?"
Re: Delusions of Grandeur
The question is, do they love old first basemen?
Derrek Lee lives in Sacramento, not far from SF.
Re: Delusions of Grandeur
The Internet source for accuracy: MLBTR!
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do they still just "steal" other people's news leads or do they do a better job of actually sharing where they "stole" their headlines from?
back in the day the mlbtr dude had like 100 personal sources in baseball...i mean, some good users feeding him outside news and other people's writing/scoops to take credit for.
it's legit either way, WFAN broke it earlier this afternoon.
Re: Delusions of Grandeur
...and now the story is being reported as false via the SF Chron...go figure.
Re: Delusions of Grandeur
No they had a radio source on there. But the headline has now changed from "Giants Sign Edgar Renteria" to "Giants Sign Edgar Renteria?".
Now that's journalism.
Re: Delusions of Grandeur
"Giants Sign: Edgar Renteria"
"Giants Sign Edgar, Renteria?"
"Giants! Sign Edgar Renteria!"
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"Insane Gig: Rearranged Tits!"
Re: Delusions of Grandeur
And that's different from TCR how?
; )
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Before Chad reacts (if he does), all of us who get the reference know that Rob G is kidding.
Re: Delusions of Grandeur
thanks for killing any chance i had of making a joke.
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My boss has a friend who works for Iggy Pop. His friend says that Iggy is irrelevant.
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I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy me.
Don't make me go medieval on yo ass.
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At the very least you could put Chad in charge of that new site, and he would finally have a legitimate place to voice out... Well maybe not.
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All the best stuff came out in the nineties.
Re: Delusions of Grandeur
this man speaks the truth.
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Eddie Veder thirds.
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what's your problem tonight?
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You can't touch this.
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CubsTradeRumors.com is already owned by some guy in Turkey. The Cubs of Chicago in the America are big with the peeps in Turkey.
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Friday's games will be in Washington, Chicago, Arlington, and Cleveland or Boston. Someone's game is starting laaaaaaaate - 50-50 chance it's the CDT Cubs.
Meh, I messed that up. Mets are in.
Cards and Giants can still tie though.
Kershaw gets hurt by his defense and gave up 2 more runs. Blach has 8 shutout innings.
Mets already won as did Cards.
tomorrow is gonna be helluva fun if Giants hold on. We're all rooting for a 3-way tie I presume.
good news is now 5 K's for Lester through 4 (in a quest for 200 for season). Bad news is he's already at 86 pitches.
be curious how long Maddon sticks with Lester to try and let offense get back into it and get him the win (4-2 as I type, was 4-0)
Fwiw, he needed 2.1 IP to cross 200 for season so he got that at least. He also needs 9 K's for 200K's on season and he has 4 through 3.
cubs score 2 runs thanks to predictable reds pitching and horrible CIN defense...cubs only down by 1 now. heyward even got a gift 2rbi double out of an easy popout. neat.
something named Ty Blach has outpitched Clayton Kershaw through 6 innings (1-0 Giants).
not that finishing 2nd place will matter much nor did this game, but have to think if Hendricks pitches well tomorrow, he could leapfrog Lester in Cy Young voting. Don't see anyway Scherzer doesn't win it regardless and it doesnt' look like Lester has any incentive clauses that matter. Also might give Cueto some votes.
Rather remarkable how many teams have really good 1-2 options this year.
Nats: Scherzer and Roark (and Strasburg was great before injuries)
Cubs: Lester and Hendricks (and Arrietta is still damn good just not as consistently lately)
pretty much what I'm gathering from this thread is that it doesn't matter who you play in 5-game series, but no one wants to have to deal with Cardinal fans if we end up losing.
I can respect that.
first game for lester giving up more than 2 runs since july 24th. hell of a run.
doh, yes...dunno what happened there. jake arrieta is all "bro wut?"
lester going for #20...cubs haven't had a LH (thanks jpep for the correction) 20 game winner since d.ellsworth in 1963.
fwiw, all the games are free on mlb.tv
Short rest for MadBum would be 2 days. WC game is Wed., Games 1 & 2 are Friday/Saturday.
A left-handed one...
J-Hey not finishing with an offensive onslaught.
If Geoff Blum could be a Playoff hero, there is hope still...


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My DD did something hideous today. I need to hear some stories from other moms whose kids have done disgusting things so I can deal with this.
She is sort of crazy about eating non-food items, I want to bring it up to her pedi because it's so intense. Batteries, crayons, Legos, change, dryer sheets, bugs, random bits of trash...she is mad for trash. She scoops everything into her mouth, constantly. DH and I are digging stuff out of her mouth 10+ times a day. We watch her like a hawk and she still manages, she'll dig stuff out of coat pockets or tear the stuffing out of her high chair and eat that while your back is turned to get her another scoop of peas.
So come on DT, who will win the Shit My Kid Ate award? Bonus points if it's ACTUAL shit.
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Staying ahead of crypto
by Geof Smith, D.V.M.
The author is at the College of Veterinary Medicine, North Carolina State University, Raleigh.
That "ounce of prevention" is your best bet.
Cryptosporidiosis is a common cause of diarrhea. It can be very frustrating to deal with since it occurs very commonly, is difficult or impossible to get rid of completely, and is not readily treatable. Specifically, cryptosporidiosis refers to diarrhea caused by the protozoal organism Cryptosporidium parvum. Disease caused by a protozoa is different than what we usually see in cattle. However, this is an important distinction.
Many diseases we normally deal with are caused by bacteria which often are treated with antibiotics. However, protozoal organisms generally are not killed by these drugs. Other major diseases of dairy cattle are caused by viruses. These infections usually aren't treatable with antibiotics, but they often are preventable by using vaccines (respiratory disease would be a good example). There are no effective vaccines for cryptosporidia, and vaccines that protect against protozoal organisms generally are very difficult to develop.
Cryptosporidial oocysts (eggs) commonly are shed by calves from 5 days of age until 3 to 4 weeks of age. Many will shed a few oocysts without having clinical signs of disease. However, high infection rates (greater numbers of eggs) leads to intestinal damage and diarrhea.
Oocysts shed by one calf can contaminate the environment including feed and water. Then these eggs are picked up by other calves, and the infection continues. So crypto most commonly is passed directly from calf to calf on farms and occasionally can be passed from calf to human.
Calves normally shed oocyts for about three to four days after they initially are infected, although sometimes shedding can continue for up to 10 days. However, once the infection is over, calves stop shedding oocysts. Since this is a disease that possibly can be passed to humans, this is an important point. Cattle do not become chronic carriers or shedders of these parasites, and the cryptosporidial organism that causes disease in people really only comes from young calves.
The exact way that cryptosporidial organisms damage the small intestine is complex and not completely understood. However, the organism damages the villi which line the small intestine and are responsible for absorbing fluid and nutrients. Following infection, the small intestine is not able to absorb nutrients properly, and diarrhea develops. Calves will appear lethargic, stop drinking milk, and eventually will become dehydrated. The diarrhea will persist for several days until the immune system clears the infection and the intestines are able to repair the damage done by the organism.
Crypto usually is fairly easy to diagnose in calves with diarrhea since the eggs can be easily seen under a microscope. Your veterinarian can take fecal samples from affected calves and should be able to tell you whether or not cryptosporidia are involved.
One of the more frequent questions I get is what can I do to treat calves with cryptosporidial diarrhea? Unfortunately, we still don't have a good answer for this.
There is a drug called halofuginone that is licensed for prevention of cryptosporidial infection in Europe where it is routinely administered for the first 7 days of life. Some studies have shown that using halofuginone can reduce the severity of diarrhea and the excretion of oocysts. However, other clinical trials have shown little to no benefit of halofuginone.
For example, one study done in bull calves showed no difference in the incidence of or treatment rates for diarrhea between the calves treated with halofuginone and those not treated. There was a significant delay in shedding of oocysts, but when halofuginone feeding was stopped, the treated calves began shedding oocysts again. There was no difference in milk intake, weight gain, or age at weaning between the treated and untreated groups. So, although it may be effective in reducing oocyst shedding while being fed to calves, it may or may not actually reduce diarrhea in calves.
In a study done last year at Cornell University, a drug approved for horses called nitazoxanide was able to reduce the duration of oocyst shedding and improve fecal consistency in calves infected with cryptosporidia. Although the initial study showed promise for possible use in calves with diarrhea, this product recently was pulled from the veterinary market and no longer is being produced.
Decoquinate (Deccox), which is labeled as a preventive for coccidiosis, is another product that has been looked at. However, studies using doses normally added to milk to control coccidiosis found no effect on cryptosporidia.
There is one product on the market that might be worth considering. In a small study done in Japan, an activated charcoal product with wood vinegar liquid was effective in stopping diarrhea and oocyst shedding in calves with crypto infections. This effect was noted within 24 hours of adding this product to the milk replacer. The activated charcoal with wood vinegar liquid is found in the product First Arrival that is sold in the U.S. It is available as a powder that can be added to milk or milk replacer and also as a paste that can be administered to calves directly. Although it remains to be seen if this product can help control crypto diarrhea in a large-scale field study, it may be worth considering.
There have been several attempts to produce a vaccine to control C. parvum infections, but none of these have been effective consistently. Studies using both vaccination of dry cows with whole organisms and vaccination of newborns with oral product prior to colostrum administration have been tried.
Help them out
So, treatment, in general, should be focused on fluid therapy to keep calves well hydrated as most calves will recover from cryptosporidiosis if there is not an overwhelming infection.
Since there are no vaccines to prevent crypto and no specific drugs available to kill the organism within the calf, controlling diarrhea comes down to good management. Sanitation and cleanliness are keys to minimizing severity of infection. However, once the environment becomes contaminated, this disease can be very difficult to overcome. There are several important control points.
1. Provide a clean, dry area for cows to calve, and separate the calf quickly.
2. Make sure calves are getting an adequate amount of good quality (clean) colostrum. Although this may not be able to prevent crypto infections, it certainly will help prevent secondary invaders such as rotavirus or coronavirus from making the diarrhea worse.
3. Maintain strict sanitation with feeding equipment (bottles, buckets, and nipples).
4. Use appropriate disinfectants like 5 percent ammonia or oxine when cleaning hutches or pens.
5. Move calves that develop diarrhea away from others. Remove their manure thoroughly before others are placed into the same hutch or calf pen.
6. Feed sick calves last since you easily can spread crypto from sick calves to healthy calves on your boots or on feeding utensils like bottles or nipples.
7. Learn to identify calves with diarrhea quickly, and start them on an appropriate course of treatment usually involving oral electrolytes.
Although crypto diarrhea continues to be a major problem, it can be minimized. Another important consideration is to try and prevent the transmission of disease from cattle to humans. This will be covered in much greater detail in a future article.


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on December 22, 2012 - 3:12 PM
, updated December 22, 2012 at 4:55 PM
Four people were arrested Friday after trying to steal merchandise from grocery, convenience and retail stores across the City of Buffalo in separate crimes linked only by the holiday-season desperation of the would-be thieves.
Police say the three men and one woman arrested over the course of the same day sought to steal as little as $9 worth of items from the stores, which were located in North Buffalo, Black Rock, the East Side and South Buffalo.
Dennis J. Richards, chief of detectives for the Buffalo Police Department, said the timing of the incidents was not surprising.
"It isn't uncommon to see an uptick during the holiday season in crimes of opportunity such as shoplifting and other thefts," he said in an email.
The charges in the cases include larceny, petit larceny and trespassing, with one of the men arrested at a store from which he was banned because of a previous theft there, according to Buffalo police reports.
In that case, police say, Matthew M. Minton, 48, who was barred from the Tops Markets at 345 Amherst St. because of a previous arrest there for petit larceny, was spotted by a store employee at 5 p.m. Friday filling a cart with items.
Police say Minton, who lives four blocks away from the store on Amherst Street, didn't have any money on him when he was arrested on a charge of trespassing.
In the second case, an off-duty manager in the 7-11 convenience store at 481 Abbott Road saw someone take two packages of Swiss cheese, worth $9 in total, prompting the manager to alert two on-duty clerks.
One clerk called 911 while the other employee confronted the store patron, who refused to return the cheese and struggled with the employee while attempting to run away. Responding officers arrested Donald Williams, 44, whose address wasn't listed but who has a lengthy history of convictions for possession of stolen property, drug possession, petit larceny and disorderly conduct.
Williams is charged with third-degree robbery, petit larceny and harassment.
At 1:45 p.m. Friday, an employee of the Home Depot store at 2100 Elmwood Ave. reported to police that Anthony E. Argiros, 22, who listed a Delaware County address, tried to steal $62.94 worth of items. Argiros is charged with larceny.
Finally, employees at the Family Dollar store at 2565 Bailey Ave. accused Destiny M. Snow, 17, of Rounds Avenue, of trying to take $11.96 worth of merchandise from the store on Friday. Snow was arrested on a charge of petit larceny.
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To appreciate what John Hendricks has created, just spend some time watching his Discovery Channel. Consider, for example, the moment on the Curiosity show when Dr. Dunn rips a piece of tape off host Mike Rowe's eyebrow and finds what he is seeking: eyebrow mites.
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Phil Mathews wanted to be a pilot since childhood, but bad eyesight precluded that dream. Instead, after graduating from England's University of Buckingham in 1989, he began a job as a check-in agent at London's Gatwick Airport. He was hired just for summer vacation, but he wound up being promoted to flight dispatcher and manager of general operations and spending four years there.
December 1, 2011
Although he has experienced low points as well as triumphs during his golfing career, Sergio Garcia has earned more than $27 million since going professional in 1999 and has regularly placed in the top 10 of the Official World Golf Rankings.
December 1, 2011
When NBC's Today Show profiled Jared Isaacman in 2006, a reporter asked his father to name the biggest obstacle his son had faced in building his nationwide credit-card processing firm. The answer: "His inability to drive."
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October 1, 2011
After reading Esther Dyson's résumé, you might conjure up a Type A executive juggling urgent phone calls behind a massive desk. Dyson, after all, has spent decades–and earned millions–advising, buying and selling companies and shares of companies.
August 1, 2011
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Dear Ann, In this season of gratefulness, I've been thinking about how I've wished for a knitting group, and how funny it is that when it finally arrived (like a pony from the sky), it was a sewing circle. A bunch of women I didn't know a few years ago. We are the unofficial New York City branch of the Alabama Chanin Sewing Society and Fan Club. Sometimes I knit at sewing circle. If the mutual support (aka gossip) is flying,...Read More


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From Mirror reports
ERIE - The 2012 Curve players and coaches can call themselves winners, finishing with a 72-70 record.
That's quite an accomplishment given that the team went through several long losing streaks and struggled mightily on the road. But the Curve showed resiliency bouncing back from tough stretches time and again, and they accomplished the Pirates' primary goal for the entire organization as they did indeed "finish" the season.
Altoona won its final six games of the year and 13 of its last 16, with Monday afternoon's 2-1 victory over Erie at Jerry Uht Park clinching a winning record.
"It means a lot to those guys," manager P.J. Forbes said of his club finishing above .500.
"I'm excited for them because I knew that was one of the goals down the stretch to find a way to get that accomplished, and they did."
The Curve finished third in the Western Division behind Akron and Bowie and didn't make the Eastern League playoffs. Still, after starting the season 13-22, they went 59-48 the rest of the way to top the .500 mark.
The team showed its resiliency early when, after dropping six in a row to fall to 13-22, it rebounded by winning seven straight.
The wild up-and-down streaks continued. The Curve suffered a season-long eight-game losing streak from July 31 to Aug. 7 and had a crushing 13-game road losing streak spanning from July 25 to Aug. 19. Those two streaks ultimately kept the team out of the playoffs, but the team didn't let the skids prevent it from having a winning season.
"It says a lot about the players," Forbes said. "They went though some stretches that very easily could have made them fold their tent and not finish. And they never did that - they never did that the whole season, they never did it during games. They kept fighting and finding a way."
Altoona went 44-27 at home and 28-43 on the road. The club looked lost on the road in losing 13 in a row, but it figured out that problem by winning its final seven games away from home.
The Curve scored two runs in the second inning Monday and made it hold up behind strong pitching.
Starter Brandon Cumpton (12-11) allowed one run on only two hits in six innings for the win, while Erie starter Jared Wesson (7-11) took the loss despite giving up just two runs in seven innings and striking out 10.
Hunter Strickland worked two shutout innings of relief for Altoona, then Vic Black finished off the game and one of the best seasons ever by a Curve reliever as he worked a scoreless ninth to earn his 13th save and finish with a 1.65 ERA. Black's ERA is fourth best in franchise history among pitchers with at least 55 innings in a season.
The Curve played Monday without outfielder Oscar Tejeda, who was designated for assignment by the Pirates before the game.
Former Curve infielder Brock Holt won the Eastern League batting title with a .322 average. He was called up to Triple-A a month ago but had enough plate appearances with Altoona to qualify for the EL leaderboard.
"I'm proud for him," Forbes said. "He came a long way growing up this year, went through some tough times. But I think it says what type of kid he is, the resiliency. I'm just happy for him, and for [hitting coach] Ryan Long, the tireless work that goes unnoticed that he does in the cage every day with every guy."
Holt, who was called up to the Pirates on Saturday, is the second straight Curve player and third in franchise history to win the batting title. Starling Marte won it in 2011, and Jeff Keppinger won it in 2004 as he started the season with Altoona, was traded to the Mets and finished with Binghamton.
"I'm just happy for the organization with back-to-back batting titles, which says a lot about what we have coming," Forbes said. "And those guys are only going to get better."
The Pirates' top two affiliates enjoyed success this year as the Curve finished with a winning record, and Triple-A Indianapolis went an astounding 89-55 to easily win its division in the International League.
"I think the organization has a lot to be proud of, obviously with what Indy's done and how we finished," Forbes said.
Game recap
Key players: SS Kelson Brown went 4-for-4 to finish with a .290 average, and C Charlie Cutler went 2-for-4 with two triples and a run.
Key play: Cutler tripled leading off the second inning to ignite a two-run frame for the Curve.
Key stat: The Curve won their final six games and 13 of their last 16 to finish 72-70.
How they scored
Top 2nd: Cutler tripled, scored on Latimore single (1-0); Chambers single scored Latimore (2-0).
Bottom 3rd: Douglas walked, scored on Johnson groundout (2-1).


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By punting the ball, the state Supreme Court virtually has guaranteed that the battles over the state's voter identification law will continue possibly until Election Day.
On Tuesday, the state's top court booted the matter back to the Commonwealth Court, with instructions that it must by Oct. 2 again review implementation of the law, specifically concerning the availability of Pennsylvanians to get free photo ID cards from PennDOT that can be used as proof for voting.
If the lower court determines there is not liberal access to the ID cards under the procedures in place or if the court is concerned that voters will be disenfranchised by the law, then it is ordered to issue a preliminary injunction stopping the voter ID requirement for the Nov. 6 election.
The Supreme Court has promised to expedite any further appeals, which seem almost a given, especially if the Commonwealth Court determines the voter ID requirement can stand.
As the law currently stands, Pennsylvanians going to the polls on Nov. 6 must present a valid photo ID to prove their identity, such as a driver's license or a nondriver photo ID card issued by PennDOT. Certain other photo IDs also will be acceptable if they meet certain criteria.
Those without a proper ID will be issued a provisional ballot. They then will have to provide a copy of their photo identification and a signed affirmation, which will be given to them at their polling place, to their county board of elections within six days or their ballot will not be counted.
Because of the continued uncertainty, it behooves registered voters to act now to ensure they will have a photo ID, if needed, by Nov. 6. Acting earlier also might avoid longer lines closer to Election Day.
With neither side showing signs of surrender, the conflict over the voter ID requirement is certain to continue.
But if voters act now to get their IDs, regardless of which side comes out of top, they will be prepared to cast their ballots on Nov. 6.


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Most Overpriced Sh*thole
Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:12 PM
Posted 12 March 2012 - 02:39 PM
Seems like a nice spot, and as they say, it is being sold for it's development 'potential'.
This house is in a good part of Stockport,and comes with a building plot for another house,but must be the most derelict-looking heap I've ever seen advertised in Marple Bridge...
No indication of the size of the plot(s) though, so can't begin to judge on the asking price.
Posted 17 March 2012 - 02:38 PM
Spacious is NOT a word I would use to describe it! There's barely enough room to stand up, let alone swing the proverbial cat.
Only £625 PCM
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 03:12 PM
A little optimistic or a cracking investment opportunity? You decide...
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Posted 19 March 2012 - 03:30 PM
Given both properties you linked to were in Hampshire I'll assume rent or buy 1 bed minimum within about 10 miles of Winchester.
Both properties you linked to were west of Winchester which is the expensive side imo but you included a buy property very close to Winchester. If you're looking to buy ,Petersfield may be a good option in that area imo.
These should not be used a a definitive answer to any posts I attempt to answer.
Posted 24 March 2012 - 10:01 AM
Property Bee shows that its had one edit:
16 March 2012
- Subtitle changed: 2 3 bedroom terraced house
Posted 25 March 2012 - 08:12 PM
Property Bee shows that its had one edit:
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- Subtitle changed: 2 3 bedroom terraced house
Wow. Just wow.
Who the fck is stupid enough to even think about buying that for anything remotely near that asking price?!
What is the EA on?
Posted 25 March 2012 - 08:14 PM
Truly incredible.
Ooh wish I had that view from my bedroom. Erm. WTF
Edited by Chuffy Chuffnell, 25 March 2012 - 08:16 PM.
Posted 25 March 2012 - 08:41 PM
The street also has its own wikipedia entry
'The most famous resident of the road was Bill Clinton, the former US president between 1992 and 2000. He lived in 46 Leckford Road while studying.....'
I wonder if this is number 46 after the correction!
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 08:59 PM
Just look at the energy efficiency!
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 10:40 PM
Some people...
[Yeah, whatever, double dip recession this, retails sales that, you're not seeing the story - I mean Bill Clinton... Bill Clinton]
Mr Wu has eclectic taste in curtains.
Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:41 PM
£2,000 a year council tax on a 3 bedroomed house? Someone please pass me the smelling salts.
Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?
Posted 26 March 2012 - 10:26 PM
This drab two bedroom bungalow is a snip at £550K. The agent says it's in need of complete modernisation throughout, I say it's in need of a bulldozer.
A little optimistic or a cracking investment opportunity? You decide...
My link
I'm wondering if it's the additional house on the grounds, in Photo #5, that has upped the price considerably.
Me: I've got no desire whatsoever to get involved in BTL. It's socially destructive and morally bankrupt.
Work Colleague: I don't understand how you can be such a hypocrite, you rent!
Posted 27 March 2012 - 01:30 AM
I think the wall's coming away from the cupboard...
'kinell, that is pricey! House isn't in perfect condition either. Look at that cupboard next to the bath. It's coming away from the wall.
Posted 29 March 2012 - 07:53 AM
House in Swansea
£195,000 for this...
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I think I use these the most of all my diapers. They are very inexpensive and it's cheap to have a lot of them on hand. The one thing I didn't like about them was they were really bulky and it was hard to fit pants over my son's bottom. I solved this problem by sewing the side panels off and just using the middle section inside a Whisper Wrap and tucking the front underneath a bit so it is more absorbent in the front. I find that it is still very absorbent this way. One thing to note is that after a few months of washing the material is not very soft if it is line dried. I solve this problem by lining it with a fleece liner. (Posted on 6/12/10)Would you recommend this product to a friend? Without hesitation!
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The only con I have is that they shrunk to a smaller length by 3" from that indicated by the manufacturer. This isn't really a big deal but I think it might be part of the reason why I have a harder time using a fastener with these diapers on my very chubby-legged baby. (Posted on 6/30/10)
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I made some Thanksgiving cookies again this week. I've added some new ones in the mix....and boy, were they fun.
I had one major flop......a very elaborate turkey that I attempted. After doing some of the outlining, I thought, "What was I thinking? Crazie.....oh yes.....that's me!" I opted to glob a bunch of icing on those three cookies and feed them to my cookie-starved family. = )
I couldn't resist having some fun photographing my much repeated fall cookies. It seems a shame to make so many of them, tweak them time and again, and not include them in the photo shoot. ;-) If you are totally tired of candy corn, quilted pumpkins, and pie slices......hide your eyes through the next few pics.
I had fun making these pilgrim hats. It was nice to add a fairly easy cookie to my collection.....plus the black really photographs well with the other Thanksgiving cookies.
My collection wouldn't be complete without sending the true message of Thanksgiving. "Let them give thanks to the LORD for his unfailing love and his wonderful deeds for men." Psalm 107:8 (I would love to be able to put that on a cookie.......but I don't think so. You know how much I love to write on a cookie. NOT! lol)
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They are so photogenic. :-)
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Here's an assortment of all of them. Fun, fun!
I'll be helping a friend decorate Christmas cookies first of next week so she can send them to some of our soldiers in Iraq. Then I have to whip up a quick batch of Thanksgiving cookies for my extended family as we go visit them for the holiday.
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Southern Style Homemade Hot Dog Chili
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Yum..that looks good!ReplyDelete
My hubby LOVES chili dogs...or just hot dogs period!! He's from Indiana also..maybe that explain it! The kids always hated it when I needed him to cook for me..guess what they'd always have?? :-)
Oh No! If you have an authentic Chicago Hot dog, no ketchup. That's the rule;) we eat Portillos Hot dogs! Your chili dogs look good though. Every region has their own version of the hot dog.ReplyDelete
I'm going to give this chili recipe a try. We love chili dogs here! I've never seen those split top buns before. Thanks for mentioning those. I'll be on the lookout for them. And those Hebrew National dogs are the only ones that are eaten in this house!ReplyDelete
Thanks for sharing.
Tasty hot dog..You did an amazing job! I'm totally drooling :))ReplyDelete
Can't wait for summer! Your dog looks so good piled high with chili like that, yum! Like the split-top bun, too, less messy if that were possible with a chili dog.ReplyDelete
Brandie, I love your sense of humour. Must be tough keeping a couple of hot dog connoisseurs happy! Great job.ReplyDelete
Mmmmmmmmm Chili Dogs... *drool*ReplyDelete
Mmmmmmmmm Chili Tots ..*drool* : )
Wow that looks wonderful. My daughter would dig right in!ReplyDelete
yum!! That looks delicious! Thanks for sharing! I might just have to go try that ASAP!ReplyDelete
This is one super beautiful hot dog!!! My mouth is all watery now, yum yum yum! Thank you for sharing :)ReplyDelete
I just got done telling a colleague how much I love hot dogs as a guilty pleasure. Thanks for bringing these to me while I have hot dogs on the brain!!ReplyDelete
I along with Becky grew up on the Chicago dog, lots of veggies (might as well be a burger with a whole pickle and slices of tomato on it) and love it to this day. Then I grew up and moved away and discovered chili dogs... AMAZING!!! Oh and chili fries... Ok I'm hungry!ReplyDelete
LOL, Brandie, you know a lot about hot dogs :) I've never even had a chili dog, but that may change soon! Yours look awfully good~ReplyDelete
Lizzy, I know WAY more about hot dogs than I probably should...hee hee.ReplyDelete
Don't even get me started on pizza!! ;o)
Oh my! This chili recipe looks delicious. In Texas we do chili on our dogs too, but the tater tot thing puts them over the edge. Tater tots with a layer of chili and onions then topped with cheddar and stuck under the broiler for just a minute or two. DIVINE!!!! They are a birthday bbq favorite around here.ReplyDelete
Wow this looks amazing! Tater tots sound wonderful too. Soo ready for summer and this is the perfect dish!ReplyDelete
My husband and boys would love this too! :-)ReplyDelete
We are a chili dog family here, Brandie. Love them so much. Your chili recipe sounds wonderful! I'm with you on the split top hot dog buns. I could never find them in Louisiana. Thanks for sharing your recipe!ReplyDelete
I have never had chilli on a hot dog before. Sounds interesting.ReplyDelete
:-) Mandy
Nothing like a good chili dog! I'm going to have to try that brand..and I'll be sure to pick up some Stewart's Rut Beer :o)ReplyDelete
yum! That looks good! You should come link it up to my What's Cooking Wednesday linky tomorrow!ReplyDelete
I think I have a few boys in the house that would enjoy this recipe!ReplyDelete
I think my brother would love these....goonna make these for him when he visits chicago and i hope it's soon...hehe.ReplyDelete
I was just over at a friends this morning who said she had a chili dog last night. I'm really picky about my dogs but needless so say this looks delish!ReplyDelete
In the summertime we have hot dogs so often on the open fire! It seems so long ago, I know at the first almost warm evening, Mr. Rosemary will be asking if we have any dogs. (I'll surprise him with the chili!)ReplyDelete
I live in Chicagoland, so the hot dog is near and dear to me - just don't put ketchup on it!ReplyDelete
I can just imagine that chili with fries - yum!!
Oh my, hotdogs reminds me of summer. My husband would want a regular beer to go with it.ReplyDelete
Is it almost warm summer weather? I would love to enjoy these with a big glass of lemonade.ReplyDelete
OK....gonna make these NOW! YUM!ReplyDelete
Mmm-mm! This looks really good. When I saw your link on a carnival (I forget which one), I saw that you said something about "tots." I was afraid you were going to say this was a good meal for kids...because I think it looks like a great meal for ME! :)ReplyDelete
My husband is with yours - he loves hotdogs - we use Hebrew nat'l tooReplyDelete
I live in New England those buns are the best - I grill them before putting hotdog in them - butter both sides and grill in pan until golden brown
This looks really good! I love chili sauce on hot dogs or fries...I can't wait to try this :)ReplyDelete
That looks delicious :)ReplyDelete
Hello.You have a great blog..the recipe are all yummy! This chili is such a treat for my kids.Thanks.. I am your newest follower. I hope you could come and visit my blog: www.cookiedropletsetcbymarelie.comReplyDelete
I tried making a dog sauce a few years ago, it did not turn out well at all! But with BBQ season coming up, I want to try again. Your sauce looks good and I like the touch of cornmeal to take up the slack, so it stays on the dog. thanks.ReplyDelete
I'm laughing out loud because my first reaction was, "What's wrong with the way your husband says root beer?" Being from the Chicago area, I think he says it perfectly. Then, I saw your package of Hebrew National dogs and I knew you were a hot dog aficionado too. It's always nice when you know that's what's in there is not very, very gross.ReplyDelete
Great recipe and fun post. :)
- AnonymousMay 5, 2011 at 10:06 AM
I made this yesterday, exactly as shown in your recipe, and my house smelled good for the rest of the day. We are having it tonight for dinner, with hot dogs of course.ReplyDelete
Hooray!! So glad it was a hit with your family!!ReplyDelete
Visiting through Tidy Mom's I'm Lovin it Friday. Great recipe, nice and simple. We always use any leftover chili for chili dogs. Gotta have frech chopped onion and cheese on top though. I'll have to give this quick and easy chili a try in between the leftover pots.ReplyDelete
Brandie - I'm WAY behind on my reading but I saved this one because we're going to have a shredding party at the office and I want to fix chili dogs... I've tried a couple of recipes that I wasn't totally happy with. since I've loved everything else you've made, I'm figuring this'll be a homerun! Happy 4th ;-) KateReplyDelete
Made this today, it was sooo good! I didn't add the corn meal, but it was great regardless! Thanks for another awesome recipe.ReplyDelete
I made this today without the cornmeal and it was great, except, 1 T kosher salt was way too much. I had to do some damage control with a big can of diced tomatoes to tone down the saltiness. Still, a keeper! Thanks for sharing.ReplyDelete
Hi Emily! Thank you so much! I did adjust the amount in the recipe. I had originally had (to taste) next to the salt amount. That amount of salt works for us but I realize saltiness is in the mouth of the beholder..lol. Glad you liked it though! Next time try adding the cornmeal. It really adds a little something special to this chili! :)ReplyDelete
- AnonymousJune 20, 2012 at 11:57 PM
I was born and raised in Southwest Virginia, who transplanted to the big city of Knoxville Tn. When I want good hot dog chili, I'll drive three hours to get my chili! Love your blogReplyDelete
Your Southwest Virginia Sister!
These look so good!!! I love me a good chili dog. I grew up in southern West Virginia and here we would put slaw on top of that chili. Good stuff.ReplyDelete
I've never heard of the cornmeal in the chili but will definitely be trying that one soon.
Just made this except I didn't have cornmeal and I use chipotle chili powder for 1/2 TBSP of the chili powder, rest regular chili powder. YUM, YUM and YUM again!! A keeper of a recipe!ReplyDelete
- Melissa MJuly 31, 2012 at 5:11 PM
We moved to KY about 5 years ago and whenever we make it back home to Chicago we ALWAYS make a pit stop at Portillo's!!! Can't wait to try this! Oh how I miss my midwestern fast food! :,( lolReplyDelete
- AnonymousOctober 8, 2012 at 12:21 PM
I made this yesterday in the slowcooker. We really enjoyed our chili dogs. No more canned chili!ReplyDelete
I made this recipe yesterday as well, & I loved it! we ate it on hotdogs & Frito pies too! Definitely a keeper! Thank you for your great recipe!ReplyDelete
- AnonymousJanuary 25, 2013 at 7:30 PM
Can't wait to try this! My sister lives in Southwestern VA too (Dickenson County - and we love our dogs with chili and occasionally slaw as well! Originally from the extreme mountain part of KY and now living in Central KY:)ReplyDelete
- AnonymousApril 14, 2013 at 5:59 PM
My husband and I grew up in NW Indiana and I have been looking for years for a hot dog chili recipe like we used to get "back home". Can't wait to try this! So glad I found your site. I think I'm in love!ReplyDelete
- AnonymousAugust 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM
I also grew up in northern Indiana and dearly loved going to Hank's A&W Root Beer Stand for ice cold A&W root beer and a "Spanish" hot dog (which was his version of chili). My mouth is watering just thinking about those hot dogs. Oh my! I miss our midwestern food, too. Our local WalMart here in western North Carolina sells the split hot dog buns like you use. I am going to have to try this recipe real soon. We don't only fix hot dogs in the summer. In the winter, I do them in the broiler of my oven. Mmmmmmmmm!ReplyDelete
I just made this and it is delicious I will never buy hot dog chili again!!! Awesome thank youReplyDelete
- AnonymousSeptember 14, 2013 at 6:23 PM
I live in NW Indiana about 3 miles from Lake Michigan. Sounds like your M-I-L worked at an A&W drive in. Quite a few responders live in NW Indiana. I've been looking for a recipe for chili dog sauce when I realized how much$$$ that little can cost. I'll have to give your recipe a try. Hello to your husband from the "Region".ReplyDelete
- AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 1:16 PM
Hi There: I was raised in Mi. Battle Creek to be exact, now living in Ca. In Mi. we had a couple little places that sold chile dogs, I believe they were Greek. The hot dogs were to die for. I sure miss them.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousOctober 13, 2013 at 4:45 AM
I've been wanting a good chili recipe and tried several online that ended up not tasting the best. I was tired of throwing money away on ingredients trying to find a good recipe. I decided to give it another try with this recipe and I'm so glad I did! It's delicious! Thank you.ReplyDelete