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Game 147 Recap: Cubs 5, Cardinals 3
Nail, Meet Coffin.
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W- Zambrano(16-12), Industrial-size antacid bottles, sparing the life of a perfectly good wooden bat, quick games, clutch pinch-hits.L- Wainwright (13-11), closers in non-save situations, defending your World Series title. S - Howry (8), Ward, Zambrano's "ace" reputation, the season? Things to Take from the Game 1. A quickie. Before Isringhausen and Dempster stumbled through the ninth, this game was on pace to finish in just over two hours. Zambrano and Wainwright just mowed 'em down, each walking just two and striking out just three. A very, very effective game by Z. 2. The biggest pinch-hit of the year? With the bases loaded and two outs in the top of the ninth in a 2-1 game, the Cubs took down Zambrano for pinch-hitter Daryle Ward. Ward cleared the bases with a double, and some insurance runs that we wound up needing, because.... 3. A Very Scary Finish Dempster gave up solo HRs to Edmonds and Ludwick, bringing the game to 5-3, then a single to Molina, and exited the game for Howry, who then loaded the bases with two more singles. Miles grounded out on a very softly hit, slow roller towards the second base bag, which Theriot fielded for the out at first. The Reds have just beaten the Brewers, putting the Cubs 1.5 up on Milwaukee, and 6 up on the cards, with just over two weeks left in the season. Your first-place details, below. Inning 1
- Getting the Cardinals TV broadcast where I live, and game begins with one of them saying that he didn't like Wainwright's warmups and first few pitches to Soriano. That he didn't appear to look comfortable. And indeed, he walks Soriano to begin the game.
- Ankiel makes a nice running, shoe-string catch on a sinking line-drive by Theriot to right. Soriano scurries back to first.
- Molina gets Soriano dead to rights on a steal of second. Soriano looked in at the batter, but Lee didn't swing.
- Lee also walks. Again, Cards broadcaster (Hrabowsky?) states his worry that Wainwright didn't look comfortable while warming up.
- Ramirez singles softly to right. Not sure if Soriano would have been able to test Ankiel's arm on that one, had he not been thrown out at second already.
- 3-2 count, Floyd flies out to right. That's two walks and a single against a struggling pitcher in the 1st, and nothing to show for it.
- Miles grounds out, Ankiel strikes out, looking pretty weak, as Z. starts the first. Theriot bobbles a Pujols grounder, but recovers in time to get him, ending the 1st. 0-0.
- Wainwright with an easy top of the second.
- Z. walks Edmonds to start the bottom of the second. Two groundouts later, and he's on third. Molina bounces to second to end the inning.
- Cards broadcastesr with a rather vague update on Encarnacion - can't reveal much in part due to privacy laws, they say. Nothing too encouraging to report, sadly. Cubs go quietly in the third. Hope we don't regret not getting to Wainwright in the first.
- Wainwright hits a chopper back at Zambrano, who raises his glove above his head to catch it. It deflects high up in the air, landing behind the mound, and Wainwright beats it out to start the bottom of the third.. Z. comes back to get the next three, easily.
- Ramirez lofts one down the RF line, Ankiel dives head-first for it, pretty close to the side wall. Misses, bounces into the stands. If it had stayed in play it would have been a triple, perhaps even more. Floyd then bounces to Ryan at short, who thinks about trying to get Ramirez at third, but goes to first for the second out of the inning.
- Derosa with a little floater into right-field for a two-out RBI. 1-0 Cubs.
- Pujols with a high bouncer to Ramirez, which Ramirez totally butchers into the most generous "single" of the year. He sort of made an awkward one-leg slide while rotating away from the ball and trying to knock it down. In any case, Edmonds immediately GIDPs. No harm to the inning.
- Cubs go 1-2-3 in the fifth. Game just cruising along. Lots and lots of balls in play, not many walks or K's to go around. Taken about an hour flat to play half the game.
- Speizio walks, and otherwise, nothing doing in the bottom half.
- Edmonds with a nice running, diving catch to his right, into left-field, on Theriot. Not full stretch-out, but more of a just-stooped-over-far-enough-where-i-need-to. That's two fine running catches on Theriot line-drives, tonight.
- Ramirez lines out to deep right field, with Ankiel making an awkward, twisting catch after slightly misreading the ball. 1-2-3, again.
- With the game just sailing along and two outs in the sixth, Pujols hits one out just to the right of dead-center field. Game tied at 1. Edmonds grounds out to end the inning on the next pitch. Looks like it was a fastball out over the plate to Pujols.
- F loyd leads off the top of the seventh with a big HR to RF. Fastball that drifted out over the plate again, and a few inches up above the belt. Into the Cards bullpen. 2-1 lead, Cubs.
- Kendall singles to left, and Schumaker sort of soft-tosses the throw in, which long-hops Miles, going straight through his legs. Kendall is hustling and makes second base. Very nice. 2 outs with Z. up.
- Z strikes out, but the most interesting moment comes after the at bat, when a clearly frustrated Z. takes the bat above his head, appearing ready to bring it down over his thigh and break it in half. He slows down, thinks better of it, and casually brings his arms back down, again. Bat lives to fight another day. Still 2-1 Cubs.
- Schumaker leads off bottom of the 7th, hits the ball off the first base bag. Lee gloves it, tosses to Z who gets to the bag almost the same moment as Schumaker's head-first slide. Slo-mo replay shows that Z had to stutter-step to the bag, and as a result Schumaker beat the play. Called out, however. Shouldn't have slid. Side retired in order.
- Wainwright out, Franklin in. Yet another 1-2-3 inning.
- Pie in, Jones to Right, Floyd out. Z. with only 89 pitches thrown at the start of the 8th.
- Two outs in the 8th, and Miles slaps a base hit to left. Z's been cruising, hopefully this is not the end to it. Ankiel up. Flies out to not-quite-warning-track right-center, end of the 8th.
- Isringhausen in. Ludwick in at left, Schumaker over to right with Ankiel out.
- Pie throws a bat into the stands on a swing and miss. Eventually rips one off of the right-field wall. Ball hits hard off the wall, caroms to Schumaker, who makes a strong throw in. Pie has to really hustle to get into second. Would be great to get an insurance run, with Pujols leading off the bottom of the inning.
- Theriot advances Pie to third on a bouncer to SS. 2 outs. Jones intentionally walked, so Isringhausen faces Kendall.
- Molina blocks a 55 foot bouncer from Isringhausen, saving a run. Pace of game suddenly crawling along, after having been almost on a 2-hour flat pace. Kendall walks.
- Z. taken down for a pinch hitter. Ward up with the bases loaded, two outs, 2-1 game.
- Daryle Ward effectively ends the Cardinals' season with a bases-clearing double, just beyond Edmonds' reach in left-center field, landing a few feet before the warning track. Ward with a big smile on his face. After Soriano strikes out to end inning, can hear Cards fans booing - not sure the last time I've heard that....
- Dempster in. Non-save situation, suddenly, as it's 5-1. Pujols grounds out to short.
- Busch stadium is almost completely silent. Could hear the Sprint pin from the 1980s commercials drop.
- And of course as I say that, Edmonds hits a bomb to right. 5-2. Fans still seem pretty uninspired. Schumaker flies to Soriano for the second out.
- Ludwick drives one out to dead-center. 5-3. Fans, Cardinals dugout, suddenly back into the game.
- Molina singles through the hole to left. Dempster out, Howry in, tying run at bat. Now, it's the Cubs fans you can hear booing THEIR closer!
- Cairo up, Howry in. Branyan pinch-hitting for Cairo. Branyan lines it to right, 1st and 2nd, So Taguchi now up
- Taguchi singles to center. Bases loaded. Still 5-3, two outs.
- Miles hits a little bleeder that dies in front of the second base bag. Theriot fields, throws to first for the final out. Thank god.
Ho-ly crap.... The win is
Ho-ly crap....
The win is good and all, but my god, once in a while can we have a normal 9th inning?
I know that we're not s'posed to diss Dempster, but yeesh...
Sounds like this one was
Sounds like this one was just agonizing. Glad I wasn't there and that it ended in a Cubs win.
Off to St. Louis for the games tomorrow. Not sure what to expect with the Cards having lost 8 in a row.
Fkn Dempster.
Fkn Dempster.
Glah! The "One game for the
Glah! The "One game for the season. Who starts?" poll on chicagosports.com. Check this:
60.2% Lilly
2.0% Hill
1.4% Marquis
0.6% Marshall
7646 votes total
Marquis and Marshall should feel really insulted. :-)
/I blame Sox fans
Be careful not to blow
Be careful not to blow Dempster's performance out of proportion. With a 4-run lead, I don't care who you put in there, their #1 goal is to throw strikes. As the lead shrunk, he started throwing a little bit better pitches, but by that time he was already rattled. Bottom line, I don't have any less confidence in Demp based on tonight's appearance.
SO GLAD the Cubs pulled that
SO GLAD the Cubs pulled that off. But wow, I hope Dempster has all the bad outings out of his system...I wasn't even in a celebratory mood as I left Busch, I was so worked up about that lousy bullpen performance. But the standings are looking good, and a doubleheader sweep tomorrow would likely erase all bad memories of the bottom of the 9th.
Andrew, have fun at the games tomorrow!
What I really liked about
What I really liked about tonight's game is that after the Edmonds HR, Lou got Howry up in the pen right away.........tell me Dusty would ever have done that. You could tell Lou was not going to let this game get away from them tonight. With 15 games to go, there's not much Lou can do but keep running Dempster out there for the save. However, there was a clear message to Dempster tonight that the team comes first. I also liked that he made the first mound visit to Dempster and not Rothschild. For the first time maybe ever, I don't feel like our manager is getting 'out-managed' by a Cox, LaRussa, Leyland, etc.
Another brilliant
Another brilliant performance by Dempster. What was the excuse last year cuz he wasnt getting enough work thats why he sucked? And now he is getting lots of work and he still sucks.
Hmmm yay no lead is safe with him on the mound, no team fears him, every team thinks they have a chance when he steps in.
And wow Zambrano....people still want Marquis, Rich Hill over him in an all or nothing game? You would be pretty F'in stupid to not pick Zambrano.
actually he could probably
actually he could probably put Howry out there starting tomorrow...
Just saw on my CNN report
Just saw on my CNN report that the Marlins-Nats game had just under 400 in attendance. Yowwww.
My stupid rule has always
My stupid rule has always been, try not to use your closer in non-save situtations. Dempster has been particularly awful in those situations. Not saying at all...read that please...that lou made a mistake, but think many of these guys--Demp--don't concentrate the same way. Remember that game at Shea? What does scare me is he is shaking in save situations too lately, but I think he does better in a real save situation? I;d be curious to see the numbers of his both in save and non-save. THe point, of course, is that a pitcher is a pitcher. But, that has often been my theory...tie games? Well, Demp screwed that up...I don't know what to say. IF he can't close, I don't want him as a set up man, do I?
dumpster has sucked in sept,
dumpster has sucked in sept, period.
its stinking of rob beck 1998 only dumpster's not mysteriously lost 5+mph on his fastball.
he's his own usual wild self...only now he's more hittable and giving up homers...two things he generally stays away from.
granted, his game is still mostly on the ground, but some of the mistakes that used to turn to Ks or BB's are turning into solid contact his past many outtings since the end of aug/beginning of sept.
Tonight, for the first time
Tonight, for the first time all year, I feel like we are in charge of this division.
With 15 games to go -- the same number the Bears have left -- every game is as huge as an NFL game. No more listening to Pat and Ron while sipping lemonade on the porch in the heat of summer; every inning, every at bat, every pitch is huge now.
And two games tomorrow.
Meh, Dempster is fine.
Meh, Dempster is fine. Three blown saves in 5 months -- 147 games -- of baseball. More importantly, he is our closer and that's not going to change, so no use spending much time worrying about him IMO.
this is a bit off the
this is a bit off the wall
but i'm trying to figure out if anyone knows what the signal is that some of the cubs have started doing after they reach base.....kinda like a "cowboy" pistol hands extended up and shaking your wrists......not a great explanation but if you watch a lot i think you know what i mean. jones does it a lot, then ward did it tonight, and there's this pic that makes it seem like it's a bit of a team thing.
anyone hear about this? anyone even know what i'm talking about? this is the kind of thing that will come have some weird catch phrase that the national media will play up if (when) the cubs make the playoffs.
mark grace relating a story
mark grace relating a story about how a fan threw a crutch at him (in philly, imagine that) between innings in a game where grace had made some key plays/hits.
evidently bynes was being heckled earlier in the game between innings and someone threw a bag of peanuts at him (not hitting him). he picked the bag up, opened it, ate one, thanked the fans and walked away...fans loved it, cheered.
"Meh, Dempster is fine." He
"Meh, Dempster is fine." He maybe our closer, and it is what it is for the rest of the year...but he is simply not fine.
9 appearances (17% of his season), 8.2IP, 13H, 10ER...getting scored upon in 6 of last 9 games. Those are really, really, bad numbers over a notable period of time. That's not just an off day, that's not just a result of non save situations, it's a problem...likely a problem with no good solution at this point in the season.
OF COURSE there's a solution
OF COURSE there's a solution to the closer problem ... you use someone else to close out games. Is there a risk to that? Of course.
If, as the manager, you decide the risk of the unknown outweighs the present, then you make the change. If not you don't. That's why managers get second-guessed.
Let's just not pretend that Pinella's hands are tied, and he has no options.
"OF COURSE there's a
"OF COURSE there's a solution to the closer problem"
Umm, I said no "GOOD" solution, at this point in the season. Didn't say there was "NO" solution at all.
Say what you want about
Say what you want about Dempster's #'s, he shouldn't have ever been in there last night. I said it at the time and I haven't changed my mind after sleeping on it.
If Lou can think far enough ahead to getting Ward ready in case Z comes to the plate, he can think far enough ahead to have Wuertz or Howry up if we break it open. There's no reason to put your closer out there in a non-save when you play 4 in the 3 days. The only things you're going to do are A) limit his availability and B) potentially dick his confidence because he's trying to throw strikes and not put guys on with a 4 run lead, Which is what he was doing. He was laying in there and they crushed it.
Then you gotta go out there and pull him for the guy you shoulda put in there in the first place. It's very rare that I'm critical of Lou, but he really screwed that one up last night.
Also, 22 pitches, 16 fastballs for Dempster, VA Phil. I'd say that wasn't so effective.
The problem with Dempster is
The problem with Dempster is his ERA always wants to go back to his career average ..an astronomical 4.80
It did it last year (right on the nose) and it's headed there now.
Wes, he didn't really go in
Wes, he didn't really go in there throwing strikes. He fell behind guys, went to 3 balls on Pujols and Edmonds, threw first pitch balls to 4 of 5 guys he faced. I'm not so sure he was hitting his locations. I'm not saying Lou was wise to put the guy in, but how different should his approach be with four run lead, anyhow? Do you avoid throwing strikes and try to put guys on when you only have a one run lead? He just seems ineffective and perhaps not very mentally tough. That said, Marmol is excelling is his role right now, so I wouldn't mess with that and make him the closer.
Hey Az Phil Just was
Hey Az Phil
Just was wondering if you have went by Fitch Park to see our instructional league players? I know games start next week.
Dempster was shut down for a
Dempster was shut down for a little while at the end of June for some reason or another -I cant remember what the reason was. (Strained oblique or some other non arm issue?)
I seem to recall that was effective for a while after that.
Maybe he is hurt?
How does the D. Ward signing
How does the D. Ward signing look now. Clutch baby!
Dempster had a strained
Dempster had a strained oblique.
I wouldn't mind seeing Marmol close one of the dh games today if possible.
Not Howry.
"The Reds have just beaten
"The Reds have just beaten the Brewers, putting the Cubs 1.5 up on Milwaukee"
Woaaahh. Hold on there. That's only 1 game up in the loss column. Fear the loss column! Worship the loss column! Lovingly lick the loss column!!!!
Barking wrists? In this
Barking wrists? In this Sun-Times article supposedly Soriano's power outtage in july was related to wrist problems that he didn't tell the trainers about. I wonder if he told Oh-man?
how different should his
how different should his approach be with four run lead, anyhow? Do you avoid throwing strikes and try to put guys on when you only have a one run lead?
Your objective is to walk no one. Period. I don't necessarily agree with the theory that with a big lead, giving up a solo homer is better than giving up a walk so the next guy can hit a two run donger. But, that's how your taught. That's what your told. Get your ass out and there and don't walk anybody. Make 'em put it in play. Well, Cards sure put it in play last night.
Here's the thing. And you folks might not agree with me, and that's fine. Just personal experience being and being around pitchers. The vast majority are so fragile mentally. They have a glass ego. Guys like Howry are keepers because they don't have that problem. Nothing bothers them. (Note: That's different than having a closer's mentality. We'll save that for another show.) Hope this doesn't offend anybody, but the bad ones kinda respond like Rain Man. Things have to be just right, or they freak out. If they don't get to watch Wapner, shit's hitting the fan. If you bring him in with direct instructions not to walk guys, shit's hitting the fan. Having said that, the closer is the only guy in your bullpen with a defined role. He's used to that role. Sure, Howry's the setup guy, but he'll probably be in there anywhere between the Cubs being up 4 or the Cubs being down 1. Same goes for Marmol.
You'd think that Dempster (and the VAST majority of closers, for that matter) could handle being thrown in a situation that they aren't used to (pitching with an even bigger lead), but a lot of them can't. Last I looked, Dempster's #'s in a save situation are a LOT different than his #'s when he wasn't in a save situation. Those may be a bit different now, but I'm too lazy to look.
Now, it's not that I wouldn't have put him in there for those reasons above. I wouldn't have put him in there because you've got September callups in your pen, you've got a four run lead, and you're playing two the next day. Put anybody else out there. If you still need Dempster, you still need him. But there's no reason that Wuertz or Eyre or Piggy or some combination thereof couldn't have pitched the ninth.
Worrying about the loss
Worrying about the loss column only makes sense if you are behind. The .5 means worse-case, a tie. I feel very good about the Cubs' chances in a one-game playoff...would they even need one if they won the season series anyway?
yes, mike, if you're tied,
yes, mike, if you're tied, you have a playoff game, only if the other team wouldn't be the wild card though (see yanks-red sox in 05)
a cubs-brewers playoff game would be at wrigley, which was decided via a coinflip. why at least the site of the game isn't decided by who won the season series i have no idea.
Mike, I was being snarky.
Mike, I was being snarky. I've noticed on certain occasions 'loss-column obsession' (LCO) even when we're in 1st place.
And I didn't know we won the coin flip. Where and when did this happen? Why wasn't that televised?
the coin flips were on Sept
I agree bringing in Dempster
I agree bringing in Dempster is stupid there. Not only does he suck in non-saves situtions, but with the DH today if you dont use him yesterday you could use in him in both games today if nesscary and the same with Howry cause they have 2 days of rest then. Lou only trusts them and Marmol at this point to get outs now you cant use all 3 in the same game today (well you could in game 2 if game 1 is a laffer) because you have to play the other game short handed in the pen.
oddly enough it seems that
oddly enough it seems that they excluded the Braves from these coin flips. They are still 4.5 games out of the wild card and only a game behind the Cubs and Rockies (3.5 GB) in that race. I'd love to see them tie for the wild card just to make them look stupid.
iowaCub, I understand.
iowaCub, I understand. Sounds like we have the same view on that.
Green Lantern, cubster, thanks for the info on the playoff/coin-toss. Happy to hear we won the toss.
I'm flying out to Chicago and will be at the last home game vs the Pirates. Would be cool if it sets up like the double header I was at in 2003 when they clinched.
For the Cubs to clinch at
For the Cubs to clinch at home next weekend would take a hell of a collapse by the Brewers. I'm all for it, I just doubt it.
Also, 22 pitches, 16
Also, 22 pitches, 16 fastballs for Dempster, VA Phil. I'd say that wasn't so effective.
I counted 15-8, fastballs versus sliders, but sometimes it's hard to tell. They don't always put the mph on the screen, and at the start of the inning Dempster was throwing 88-89 mph fastballs.
I thought last night was a step in the right direction for Dempster. He certainly needs two pitches that are different speeds, and he needs to reclaim his 94-95 mph fastball. I thought he went out there with a 4-run lead and a determination to get his fastball working for him again. I'm all in favor of that. But you can throw one too many of any pitch. He had Edmonds swinging and missing late on a fastball. Now the guy is set up for an offspeed pitch that never came. The 3-2 pitch was a fastball down main street that Dempster took a little off of.
He didn't walk anybody, which he does when he's in slider mode.
With the Cards down by 2, and Molino up, Dempster threw a slider low to Molina, and then another one that Molina hit for a single. So he may have been getting back in slider mode with the game getting close. It's probably true that the hanging sliders don't get hit as far. I don't remember too many home runs being hit in the Dempster meltdowns (except maybe Ethier's).
don't remember too many
don't remember too many home runs being hit in the Dempster meltdowns
Before last night Dempster had only given up 3 home runs all year.
Thanks for the insight, Wes.
Thanks for the insight, Wes.
Soriano 7 Theriot 6 DLee
Soriano 7
Theriot 6
DLee 3
Ward 9
Jones 8
DeRosa 5
Soto 2
Fontenot 4
Lilly 1
Miles 4
Taguchi 7
Pujols 3
Ludwick 9
Edmonds 8
Molina 2
Cairo 5
Looper 1
Ryan 6
"We'll save that for
"We'll save that for another show.) Hope this doesn't offend anybody, but the bad ones kinda respond like Rain Man. Things have to be just right, or they freak out."
especially at the lower levels this pops up REALLY noticeably.
you got kids who...well, too many are used to being "the man" at their highschools and a lot that went into college programs at notable schools also had nice highschool careers that let them letter in college on their teams.
you got determined kids who skipped the big programs to go to comm. colleges so they can get drafted in 1-2 years after highschool and "island kids" who have been doing this nearly 1/2 their lives.
success is pre-determined before they get to the professional leagues and some really can't handle no longer being able to just dominate without trying much...people who will never hit a slider with regularity, much less their slider....people who see a curve ball worth a damn maybe one game a month....etc.
"He didn't walk anybody,
"He didn't walk anybody, which he does when he's in slider mode."
dude, his problem isnt walking people lately as much as it is his FASTBALL *and* SLIDER is being put into play instead of fooling people. hey, he's not walking people either...that stuff that used to go wild and/or fool people is being sit on and hit.
btw, dumpster's been throwing his fastball...and its been getting hit. time to look for another flaw in his game, dude. the whole "owns on the fastball" "gets owned on the breaking stuff" just isnt working.
dumpster's got a serious problem lately with how hitters are seeing his stuff and how well they're responding that k.hill can't fix.
soto lives...blanco...well,
soto lives...blanco...well, maybe he's getting his tats touched up.
btw...i bet blanco could
btw...i bet blanco could vastly improve his CS ratio if he got some racing stripes tatoo'd on his arm...he can take kendall with him to get inked.
The cards brocasters suck I
The cards brocasters suck I have to listen to them also. Wood River Il
game on WGN, fwiw...at least
game on WGN, fwiw...at least game 1.
dumpster file... before
dumpster file...
before sept - 1 HR, 6 multi-hit games in 51 games
after sept - 4 HR, 3 multi-hit games in 8 games (4-5 bad games, 3-4 decent games (depending on how you wanna mix it up))
around mid-august dumpster's stuff started to level off and more balls being put into play. moving into sept, not only were more balls being put into play, but they were being put into play more effectively.
no, he's not falling apart out there (well he did last night), but he's not got the same stuff and people are definitely seeing what he's throwing better.
hurt? tipping his stuff? lost a bit of strength to fatigue?
i dunno...wish someone would and i hope its just a fluke, honestly.
Recent comments
LHP Clayton Richard (released by the Cubs earlier this month) is pitching very well as a starting pitcher for the San Diego Padres and could be a good candidate to get traded to a contender looking for a veteran SP before tomorrow night's post-season roster eligibility deadline.
Because they released him, the Cubs are paying most of Richard's 2016 salary (the Cubs are on the hooks for $2M, minus the pro-rated portion of the MLB minimum salary that is paid by the Padres).
it is honestly awesome (for real) that anyone would even have a strong opinion on AZL playoffs. i guess if you invest enough time watching it, you want to see a fair/just playoff structure.
plus, the kids deserve it.
The AZL team with the best record over the course of the full 2016 AZL season and the only AZL team to play .600 ball (the AZL Dodgers) did not qualify for the AZL playoffs, and the AZL East Division team with the best record over the course of the full season (the AZL Athletics) did not qualify for the AZL playoffs, either.
That's because of the ridiculous "split season" schedule most of the minor leagues now play, a stupid system that rewards mediocrity at the expense of the worthy.
Despite good movement on his fastball, I think location kept him from getting Ks. Left some pitches up and away that got hammered up and away. Then of course Travis Wood gave up the 2-run double in the 7th, but both runs counted against Arrieta.
"i'm gonna make you my main squeeze one day, bro. save the date."
This level of discourse is #charming.
I would be having this discussion with anyone who (a) blathered on ad nauseum about the topic. (See, "Olt, Mike, not given an opportunity") or (b) responded directly to what I posted (which you did).
Have a nice day.
what would you do without me? aside from having your posting content here cut by 75%+?
i'm gonna make you my main squeeze one day, bro. save the date.
In this instance, yes, I care more about the result of this big thing that isn't really a big thing.
Two things:
Fangraphs WAR #s include baserunning and Hamilton is elite at that. He leads in SBs with the 54 and and has an 87% rate which is really good. I'm sure once he gets on base he's able to take the extra base quite often too. Both those things will up his overall WAR value.
The differences between BR and FG WAR is pretty well documented online and thus If there are discrepancies it's fairly easy to figure out why. It's fairly well accepted that BR WAR is fine as a snapshot but FG is better at predicting future value.
i have no doubt at all you quit reading at that point. you're very enamored with outcomes without caring what it takes to get there.
the fact it's exploitable, especially without someone to cover the running game for him, as well it's evolution in how people are testing possible exploits is interesting to some people...to me...i'm some people...hurrah.
some people want to check the boxscore to see who won, some want to know how it went down.
I read it as him saying it's not really that much of a concern and that the one time it really cost Lester, vs. K.C., was an anomaly.
if jeff says it, it's cool...when i say it, it's straight from the mouth of hitler.
aside from the lack of jeff touching on the insane leads runners take and lester's inability to throw if he's fielding, this is a lot of what i've said about the issue.
exploitable, needs his own personal catcher to control his shortcomings, relies on his ability to get outs along with his personal catcher keeping runners in check before things become further exploited...
That would be Rice Krispy Treat
"Crunch's cousin"
Butterfinger or Baby Ruth?
I saw the first three innings and the last three, so I didn't see Arrieta get hit. His stuff looked nasty at first...what happened? Any insight from anyone who watched?
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This joke is not racist, not in any way at all. Pixie master is not a black guy so why's he calling everyone who laughs a racist? Does he think we need his help? Truth is he's probably the most racist in these forums.
Pixie master, butch or whatever your name is, the blacks of this world dont need you 'defending' them, go find another 'good cause' loser.
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How representative are they of the Aborigines who need our help?
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–, Monday, May, 03, 2010, (10:19am)
The Rudd Government has cemented the rise of the professional Aborigine - one who looks very different to the Aborigines you imagine your taxes helping:
The National Congress of Australia's First Peoples, launched in Sydney yesterday, is the first indigenous representative body since 2005, when the Howard government abolished the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission amid corruption scandals.
The Rudd government has bankrolled the new group, pledging $29.2 million…
The group will represent Aboriginal interests in government, business and international forums… But while its agenda is bold, it is still unclear what the new body will fight for and campaign on.
Sam Jeffries, one of the inaugural full-time co-chairpeople of the body, told The Australian yesterday the group was still without a political agenda or "mandate" but would not be afraid to vigorously pursue the Rudd government, despite receiving federal funding… Mr Jeffries and Kerry Arabena are the inaugural full-time co-chairpeople ...
Indigenous spokesman Wesley Aird, who worked on billionaire Andrew "Twiggy" Forrest's campaign for 50,000 Aboriginal jobs, said the new body was too bureaucratic and lacked a political identity.
"This looks like it will spend all of its money on administration and we've seen that in the past with ATSIC," he said.
That's Kerry Arabena and Sam Jeffries, co-chairs of this fundamentally racist body, above. Their CVs say it all.
GRANDIOSE in name, modest in function, bizarre in its bureaucratic architecture, the National Congress of Australia's First Peoples raises more questions than it answers about the indigenous future…
The national executive's members are all members of a distinct Aboriginal class: bureaucrats and prominent local advocates deeply engaged in the endless round of consultations and policy discussions that provide the heartbeat for the Aboriginal industry…
The profound crisis rocking the Aboriginal world today may be centred in the small, far-flung communities in the Top End and centre, but there is no room on the new executive for traditional leaders from that realm.
Arabena explains to an Aboriginal interviewer that she's indigenous, too, and deplores the "militarised occupation of the Northern Territory" by the Howard Government - an invasion otherwise known as an intervention to save Aboriginal children from rampant neglect and child abuse.
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Have Your Say
Would a Tony Abbott government stop this rort? John Howard didn't.
Mon 03 May 10 (11:44am)
Mon 03 May 10 (12:15pm)
Er, it was John Howard who disbanded the corrupt ATSIC.
Mon 03 May 10 (12:16pm)
I was under the impression that John Howard disbanded Atsic. Please correct me if i'm wrong.
Mon 03 May 10 (12:19pm)
Abbott's credentials are pretty good here. I expect he woudl consult Noel Pearson as to whether views such as Barry of Round had any merit; I suspect not. Abbott a man of commitment would act.
But Abbott may delegate too. If he was leader he would not attempt 600 reforms or rather 600 grand announcements. He would prioritise. A few questionable abos getting grants - an annoying but small problem. Stuffing up tax, and ets is where focus needs to be.
Mon 03 May 10 (04:27pm)
Paul: 'Would a Tony Abbott government stop this rort? John Howard didn't.'
John Howard did.
However, Paul did stumble onto one minimal shred of truth here. Howard initially didn't - until the leadup to the 2004 election, when Latham promised to abolish ATSIC. Now that the ALP were going to do it, Howard was suddenly allowed by our magnificently impartial chatterers to do it too. Had he done it 24 hours earlier, such people, and the likes of Paul, would have sunk their ideological axes in Howard's cranium with every iota of backswing they could muster.
Mon 03 May 10 (06:14pm)
ATSIC #2: Let the Crony Rorts Begin [starter's Pistol discharges shot in the distance -claaammkpk!!!]
Here we go again with the Native Soap Opera Melodrama that never-ends, days of our lives. Duracell Batteries Paradoxes never-ending story....yawn....
Wild Rivers would be a good place to start.
Sam Jeffries, one of the inaugural full-time co-chairpeople of the body, told The Australian yesterday the group was still without a political agenda or "mandate"
Here's one for you.
How about supporting indiginous people in their fight against having their Cape York "Wild Rivers" lands virtually confiscated by the Bligh and Rudd Governments in their craven kowtowing to the urban Greens for preferences?
If you need further information on how to help your own people, contact:
The Hon. Tony Abbott MP
Parliament House,
Mon 03 May 10 (11:44am)
Mon 03 May 10 (12:29pm)
If you need further information on how to help your own people, contact:
The Hon. Tony Abbott MP
Parliament House,
Exactly, Alan.
Of course Noel Pearson may also have some good advice for these people. Although I think the advice that Noel would be providing, may not be to their liking.
Noel may suggest they spend some time in a REAL dysfunctional Aboriginal community in order to see first hand why so many Aborigines are light years away becoming civilised, productive "citizens".
Of course, it is people like Kerry Arabena, Sam Jeffries and Mick & Pat Dodson, who have spent their entire lives living high-on-the-hog courtesy of the taxpayer whilst at the same time whingeing about the white man, who are at least partially responsible for much of the lack of progress of REAL Aborigines..
Mon 03 May 10 (03:40pm)
Yes Dave.
I agree - I blame the white people for the plight of outback aborigines.
Well, do gooder whites actually, and people who call themselves aborigine but look white.
They're the ones holding back progress towards education, eliminating violence towards children and women, health and housing progress for those in the shanty communities with no hope, no future.
The concept of the 'noble savage' and the catastrophe of Bringing Them Home is what has caused the greatest harm.
It's the do-gooders - wild eyed zealots and those part aborigines who are sucking the system dry - it is they who have kept the camp aborigines in their primitive state.
Tue 04 May 10 (04:27pm)
this is just ATSIC 2. same snouts, same trough.can we all protest now about this newspeak; "first people"?
there are no first people . we are all here together in the 21st century.no one is more important than anyone else.stop this deeply racist drivel now.
"Their CVs say it all"
What exactly?
That they're hard working, well qualified people who have spend enormous amounts of their working lives in Aboriginal affairs.
That is, they are extremely qualified for the job.
Is that what you mean?
Mon 03 May 10 (11:46am)
Mon 03 May 10 (12:16pm)
If she really spent a lot of her life in remote areas working with Aboriginal people then why would she say it was a militarized occupation rather than an intervention.
What was she looking at when she was there? What did she see?
She must have some amazingly shaded pair of glasses to see anything other than a government attempting to rescue and protect children and women from abuse. Could her CV indict the colour of her shades?
Mon 03 May 10 (12:32pm)
It means they are not black enough since black people are supposedly lazy and shiftless and shouldn't have been able to get them self qualified.
Mon 03 May 10 (12:49pm)
"That they're hard working, well qualified people who have spend enormous amounts of their working lives in Aboriginal affairs."
You mean Aboriginal Affairs, don't you? Or what should be called Aboriginal Blah Blah.
If you want to see what Aboriginal Blah Blah looks like, look no further than Rudd's "Sorry" to see how lip service and media spin means, in reality, suffering and death for those it pretends to help.
In the meantime anybody working in Aboriginal affairs would see that there are children living in conditions that if they were dogs the RSPCA would be called in.
And it's been going on for decades despite the billions of taxpayer money that gets shovelled in to "address the problem."
This will not change while Labor is in power. Seeming, not doing, as AB likes to say, is their end game.
Mon 03 May 10 (01:40pm)
It means she has spent the whole of her working life on the government's teat. How that accounts to hard working has got me beat. Quite frankly she looks no more aboriginal than me. So why is it that people who have an ounce of aboriginal blood in them will declare themselves aboriginal rather than say white? Why would you align yourselves with supposedly the most disadvantaged race in the country when you can quite easily pass for another? Try considering the following.. What race receives more welfare per head than any other race in the country and that's not including the untold billions from the mining companies? This same people get unlimited access to education, housing, health, basically all services that most taxpayers have to pay for either directly or indirectly. On top of which this same race also owns more land per head than any other. I reckon if I had some remote connection to being aboriginal I'd be sticking my hand up too.
Mon 03 May 10 (01:54pm)
well AS, considering the quality of life for the 'aboriginal' on the land is still completely infected with violence, health issues and sexual and substance abuse, it could be strongly argued that these people have spent a lifetime achieving SOD ALL.
Mon 03 May 10 (03:43pm)
And it's been going on for decades despite the billions of taxpayer money that gets shovelled in to "address the problem."
This will not change while Labor is in power. Seeming, not doing, as AB likes to say, is their end game.
If it's been going on for decades, ant, shouldn't you be blaming Howard as well.
So why is it that people who have an ounce of aboriginal blood in them will declare themselves aboriginal rather than say white?
jon crow, personally I reckon if you are black enough for people to be racist toward you, you can claim that race. The problem is, some of these people are whiter than me (I have no Aboriginal descent.)
Mon 03 May 10 (06:15pm)
My personal view is that Howard considered this issue monumentally difficult because it has been for decades so contaminated with the usual emotionally charged Leftist sentimentalism, cultural relativism and a swag of other Leftie driven 'isms'.
Until, of course, under urging from Mal Brough he could take no more. Hence, the "intervention" and the abolition of ATSIC before that.
Aboriginals suffer so much today, despite billions being devoted to their well being, for one fundamental reason: Leftist ideology.
As I like to say: The Left kills. And that golden rule applies to a lot of other things they touch - such as immigration. And when they're ideas are not leading to death and misery, they lead to massive waste and misery.
Mon 03 May 10 (06:48pm)
It is called (Racist) Identity Politics, Orwellian Doublethink for Minority Racism (it is applied to social groups, be that women, gay, children, jailbirds, migrants, etc). It goes like this:
Prospective X Group found to be disadvantaged by Leftarded Activists looking for political fodder, thus Oppression, Equality and Liberation Discourse Template is applied as an Interpretative Framework, Minority is radicalised, Govt in Power creates Bureaucracy to re-dress the "Alleged Issue", 10 years after, more of the same remains if not has increased as well, Bureaucracy does pretty well though and grows. Repeat the cycle with another prospective group.
Consider the exclusivity of Racial Identity Policy:
White/Black Group deemed Exploited or discriminated, Leftards argue oppressed Black/White Identity/Culture/Economics, solution create exclusive Taxpayer-funded Bureaucracy dedicated at promoting and discriminating in favour of Black/White Group Oppressed Group, money, jobs, houses, benefits etc are given to such group, 10 years after, nothing changes or worsened, solution? More drama, blame the Black/White Majority/Minority, extract more funding to address the Black/White Group's disadvantage.
Repeat again and again every few years, engage Leftard Academics to promote XYZ Story Research, "Apology/Walk Day/Year". LENGTH SNIP
'How representative are they of the Aborigines who need our help?'
Despite the well-founded temptation to dismiss the new body as ATSIC the second, a more intelligent and mature response would be:
'How capable are these representatives of helping Aborigines?'
Mon 03 May 10 (11:46am)
Mon 03 May 10 (12:13pm)
'How capable are these representatives of helping Aborigines?'
The answer to that questions depends on how much faith you place in bureaucracy.
Mon 03 May 10 (01:44pm)
'How capable are these representatives of helping Aborigines?'
Given they are in no way representative, and so are likely to be clueless when it comes to actual problems, causes and solutions (militarised occupation indeed), I'd say very little at all.
Mon 03 May 10 (02:54pm)
As RichardMuppett is neither mature nor intelligent, we can discount his self-important burp.
Mon 03 May 10 (05:11pm)
"As RichardMuppett is neither mature nor intelligent, we can discount his self-important burp."
Razor sharp Leftist repartee at its very best (God help us).
Mon 03 May 10 (05:20pm)
'How capable are these representatives of helping Aborigines?'
Well, to be fair, they haven't yet been given a chance to demonstrate this, so time will tell. They may end up doing great things to help disadvantaged Aboriginals stand on their own two feet, get off welfare etc, and if they do then good on them.
Or they may become, as Noel Pearson said, a 'blackfella's wailing wall' of grievances and victimhood. I hope not, but Pearson is very often on the money.
As far as comparisons with ATSIC go, I fear that this may potentially be worse, from a governance point of view at least. They are being set up as a company, so the government can't sack them, but they will be generously funded by the government anyway.
The same gravy train, with even less accountability. It doesn't bode well.
Utter rubbish, while their cousins sit in humpies in remote bush camps living like animals. If aboriginal australia continues to refuse to integrate furhter into and wothin australia's culture (according to all the leftie doo gooders we need to treat them as special)then their culture is doomed. In order for any cultiure to survive it must give up somethings and adopt those of the majority. When will the incessant drive to have this idea or pre-colonial nirvana be extinguished for the good of all australians?
Mon 03 May 10 (11:53am)
Mon 03 May 10 (04:45pm)
In order for any cultiure to survive it must give up somethings and adopt those of the majority.
Do you reckon there are more Muslims or Christians in the world?
No doubt someone will shout raaacist at me, but
I saw that on the news last night, and my first thought was 'There's not a dark face between them; surely they can do better than that'
Mon 03 May 10 (11:57am)
Mon 03 May 10 (12:36pm)
That's the way, argue that they are not black enough, show that you know nothing about anything related to indigenous people.
Mon 03 May 10 (01:25pm)
Sorry, Park. I lived and worked with them for some years. Real ones
Mon 03 May 10 (01:41pm)
How can these people claim to act for the best interests of Aboriginals when they are only aboriginal because they claim it.
When will a government end this farce? When people of less than 50% can claim aboriginality. It's nothing but an excuse for doing a hard days work for many.
The behaviour of people like this is disgusting. Lets here from real Aboriginals exactly what they think?
Mon 03 May 10 (02:50pm)
Jinty, then you would know that you need to accepted as an aboriginal by the tribe to which you proclaim yourself to belong in order to be classified aboriginal.
Do you figure these people got to this position if they had been rejected at that level? You are just going by looks and nothing else. That is racism.
Mon 03 May 10 (04:31pm)
Good one Park. Never mind that these people would never be picked out as Aboriginal by anybody, unless they told them, exactly what disadvantage are they at? Why do they require all this special consideration and assistance, when no-one who saw them would know or care that they were 1:2 000 000 Aborigine, or whatever.Really, its about time the guilt industry was wound up.
Mon 03 May 10 (05:15pm)
Park, speaking of racism, once could be forgiven from thinking that, from your post, you think that really black (as in Aboriginal full-blood) people are not capable of holding such a position.
What's more racist? That or remarking that for a supposed representative body for Aboriginals, they don't look particularly Aboriginal.
Alos, I hear many leftists who share your views making other silly remarks like Channel 9 is racist because there are only white Anglos on their programs. You can't have it both ways.
By the way, the tribal acceptance thing is an utter con - a great way to ensure the collective keeps like minded people in and those who disagree out.
Mon 03 May 10 (05:35pm)
Sorry Park (1.50PM); that just doesn't cut it. Part-aborigines agreeing that another part-aborigine is the real thing? That's all you've got?
Next you'll be telling us that Steve Monaghetti is Italian because Natalie Imbruglio said so!! duhhhh.
Here's the facts....Sam is not initiated. That's the end.
The reasons for his non-initiation could be many. These are a few possibilities.....
He can't be bothered because he knows it's all a bunch of BS, and doesn't believe in that barbaric superstitious nonsense, OR
No traditional Aborigine having knowledge of the Sacred Lore would pass it on to a non-aborigine intent on disrespecting Traditional Aboriginal Culture, like Sam, OR
It hadn't accurred to Sam that Aborigines had ever needed to be initiated...what's aboriginal custom? OR
You don't need it to make a bundle out of actual initiated aborigines. so why not just fake your aboriginality and get dubs like Park to throw you a few pennies.
Got any other suggested reasons?
Mon 03 May 10 (05:56pm)
papachango, two things, regards shade of color being the defining criteria, I was being sarcastic.
Second, the tribal thing is family. You are either related or you are not.
My view. We have an indigenous group in our community who need to have their culture preserved if not for their sake for our own. If that is done by the more educated amongst then well and good, so long as they manage to keep the culture alive for those that are closer to it than the others and less able to stand up for their rights.
We have state and federal politicians that are far less representative of the cultural and social norms of the community at large, take Steve Fielding for instance who represents a smaller constituency than these aboriginal representatives do.
Tue 04 May 10 (10:23am)
I recall there was a case some years back where a painter of traditional aboriginal art set up shop in central Australia and began to make a name for himself among the arthouses in the cities. The local tribe accepted him as one of their own until eventually it was discovered he was in fact Indian.
So much for your theory
Oh goody, I thought Rudd had run out of things to waste money on, but no,we have another useless'body' run by inappropriate people pretending to be aborigines, in order to fool the populace into thinking he's actually doing something for Australia.
Noel Pearson....are these representative of aborigines?
Mon 03 May 10 (12:00pm)
What bizarre logic..
You ask, "How representative are they of the Aborigines who need our help.."
Um , so, if we apply your logic to other administrative roles then all organisations should only be administered by those they are set up to help - a kind of do-it-yourself self-help project.
Mon 03 May 10 (12:02pm)
Mon 03 May 10 (02:41pm)
You mean like as if The Italian Club had Italians in charge? Or the Catholic Conference had Catholic Directors? Or the Stamp Collectors Association was run by Stamp Collectors? Or the AMA executive was composed of Medical practioners? Or the Teachers Union officials were Teachers?
What strangely "bizarre" notions, andrew!!
Got any more stupid comments?
Mon 03 May 10 (06:42pm)
Tanami is quite right. An exception is where people may lack the capability to help themselves. For example Vision Australia may not be entirely staffed by legally blind people, or the association for people with intellectual disabilities may have some people without an intellectual disability in charge.
But surely no-one would suggest that Aborigines fall into that category? The word racism is often misused, but that would be very racist indeed.
NCAFP aka ATSIC Mk 2.
Its got that Afro Marxist ring to it and it will be about as useful. Watch untold millions of your money go down the drain with yet another Labor created unrepresentative "white black-fella's" organisation run from the east coast.
Qantas will be happy making mobs of money flying them Business class around Australia and Overseas.
Just like the other ATSIC it won't do anything for the tribal indigenous in the NT, WA and FNQ.
Mon 03 May 10 (12:03pm)
Sinecured SNIP FOR ABUSE
Mon 03 May 10 (12:05pm)
Andrew, may I suggest -
That's Kerry Arabena and Sam Jeffries, co-chairs of this fundamentally RACIAL body, above.
Mon 03 May 10 (12:12pm)
Mon 03 May 10 (12:49pm)
Indeed. Hopefully, you will have him reaching for a dictionary so he can repair his howler, along with his lexicon.
A new trough, a couple of re-incarnated snouts.
Mon 03 May 10 (12:12pm)
There are a number of real aborigines at my work place, it is a tertiary learning centre and they study art, and I've yet to find one that appreciates these particular 'representatives' of their culture. Pity their voices aren't louder.
A particular well-known resident artist, the late Eddy Kneebone, wasn't to keen on them either I understand.
Mon 03 May 10 (12:16pm)
Come the next census I'm putting me down as 'aboriginal'. I encourage everyone else to do the same. This aboriginal identity SNIP has got to stop. If enough people to the same it will, I hope, put a stop to this nonsense.
I'm the same colour as Kerry and Sam and I want to be an aborigine too and get my snout in the government trough. There's rich pickings here.
Oh, and too bad about the real aborigines up north. They're a lost cause anyway.
Mon 03 May 10 (12:20pm)
Mon 03 May 10 (02:51pm)
Are you aboriginal because you are born in Australia? If so there are about 22 million more of us. Where are our hand outs also?
Mon 03 May 10 (07:55pm)
I nominated myself as a Jedi in the last census but I am prepared to switch allegiances if the money is right.
one who looks very different to the Aborigines you imagine your taxes helping
That's about the only place my taxes do seem to help: in my imagination.
Mon 03 May 10 (12:21pm)
I had the privilege of administering the contracts of three indigenous housing projects for a local co-op at the time ATSIC was disbanded.
I asked the Chairperson of the co-op what she thought of the move.
Her response was that, in her opinion, it couldn't have been too soon.
She said that at least there will be more money "at the coal face" for the local organisations to administer, instead of being wasted through countless high-level bureaucratic "procedures" and paying high salaries and benefits to "associates" of those in charge.
Mon 03 May 10 (12:23pm)
Well said Andrew.
And so what tribe are you from friend? 'I belong to the 'Professional Aboriginal' tribe - and we draw our financial (I mean spiritual) dreamtime existance from the sacred lands of Canberra - specifically Parliament House.
Don't let our European looks deceive you, our spirit and soul rests with wherever the money is coming from.... that is our sacred land....
Mon 03 May 10 (12:25pm)
Roots and Branches aye, must be a few bucks left hanging on the old Ruddsta's money tree!
This is only 'start-up' cash he's handing out.
What's another $30 mill pissed against the wall?
Another "Congress" another Mugabe germanation bludging and bleeding off the public purse.
Give the money to Pearson at least he has the decency and wherewithal to get results; this new mob are outright oxygen poachers!
Deceitful urger Rudd selling us out again...still!
Mon 03 May 10 (12:26pm)
In 2010 the greatest threat to Aboriginal Australians are white Australians who identify as Aboriginal.
Aboriginal culture is being slowly eradicated by fauxboriginal committees.
Mon 03 May 10 (12:28pm)
Mon 03 May 10 (01:34pm)
Spot on Dave...It's ironic that these fauxboriginals forget their white heritage when it suits them. If they want to be recognised as being aboriginal, then they should live like one. Why on earth they are forcing a Western lifestyle on people that clearly don't want it is beyond me. I don't know why we can't allocote land for the true aboriginals to live on as they wish..no welfare, no public housing, no interference. As for the rest of them, join the rest of us and call yourselves Australian.
Mon 03 May 10 (01:36pm)
It's so incredibly unbelievable that these white people can sit there and claim to be Aboriginal.
Mon 03 May 10 (01:51pm)
The Fauxboriginal industry.
Like it.
This new 'Aboriginal' representative group will only be effective if it finds "differences" to campaign on. That is, differences and grievances it has with the non-Aboriginal part of Australian society. It wont be able to function unless it finds and exploits these differences and grievances and so another division is formed in our Australian society. The time is ripe for finding the similarities, not the differences between white and non white, or else we wont have a recognisable Australian identity.
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The Left is playing the typical cliched "Divisive Politics", however it is called standing up for Collective Identity of an Oppressed Minority. Divisive Politics nevertheless with plenty money dispensed to the helpers, did you think it was a bloody charity!?
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For someone who is supposedly on ignore...
So at least you admit your posts are puerile.
You are always on here, more than most United fans. We get little bursts of 4 or 5 of your posts with every one of them calling us knobheads, shitheads or similar. You never make one constructive post. It's always some stupid comment trying to wind people up.
And you've got up at 6:00am to make your reply. Why would a Newcastle fan get up that early to post on this board unless they were obsessed with United?
And what happens on the Arsenal board should not be used as an excuse by you to behave like you do.
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"And you've got up at 6:00am to make your reply"
Actually it was 7.00am knobhead , I live in France, we're an hour ahead of the UK and some of us have to get up on a morning because of this little thing called work, which I gather you're shy of because you're on here all day long!
"Just grow up and stop your pathetic behaviour"
Or else what? What are you going to do about it?
If I suggested that you fu ck off I doubt you'd do it, so kindly don't tell me what to do, infact, the more you whinge, the more I'll post, ok KNOBHEAD!?
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OK so it was 7:00 am. It doesn't hide your fixation with United that you think the first thing you have to do is post your childish stuff on here.
The rest of your post is in keeping with you - pathetic name calling.
I don't think anything I say will stop you posting; you've just made 4 more idiotic posts in the last 10 minutes - and you say you're never on here, are you?
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The Arizona Daily Star reported Tuesday that the busy month filled the medical examiner's two refrigerated storage spaces, prompting officials to put a 55-foot refrigerated trailer in service to house additional bodies. The month's total of those who perished ranks second only to the 69 deaths recorded by the office in July 2005.
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No Machine Mint Chocolate Chip Ice CreamApril 16, 2014
The very first summer that I had this blog I was obsessed with two ingredient ice cream. Obsessed is an understatement. I made every singe flavor that was known to man. This mint chocolate chip ice cream ended up over on Whipperberry as a guest post, but I felt that it just had to be shared here for all of you! The creamy texture blows my mind. I feel like it should be less light or something since it really only has two base ingredients and doesn't use a machine!
So how is it that I made this amazingly fluffy and delicious looking treat? Easy! I combined those two basic ingredients, added in my mixers and froze away.
- 2 cups of heavy whipping cream
- 1 (14 oz) can sweetened condensed milk
- 1 cup chocolate chunks
- 1/2 teaspoon peppermint extract
- 1/2 teaspoon vanilla extract
- Now, let's get started! In a small bowl mix together the condensed milk, chocolate chunks, and extracts. Set aside.
- Whisk your heavy cream in the bowl of an electric mixer until soft peaks form. Gently fold your whipped cream into your condensed milk mixture.
- Pour this into an airtight container and transfer to your freezer. Allow to freeze 6 hours, or overnight.
I like to chop my chocolate chunks a bit to make them a little smaller, but that's just personal preference. You sure could leave them large or even substitute them for mini chocolate chips. The best thing about this recipe is how adaptable it is! Don't like mint or chocolate chips? No problem! Switch them out for cherries or cheesecake. Or stick with plain ol' vanilla. The possibilities are endless!
What are your favorite ice cream flavors? We are driving out to our new home in North Carolina this week (more on that soon) and I could use some great recipe ideas for when I get there!0
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Amy | Club NarwhalApril 16, 2014 at 7:32 am
Jesseca, this is glorious! I have been on a huge ice cream kick (I blame Jenni's Splendid Ice Cream's amazing book) but haven't tried making any with sweetened condensed milk. You can't go wrong with that 🙂
TonyApril 20, 2014 at 2:44 pm
Wow, that is all I can say about the beauty of this treat. What a great idea. I was already a big fan of mint chocolate chip, but I think this article (and the pictures) just made me an even bigger fan. I know you can make this with and without a machine. Although I didn't make it myself (shame on me), I just tried Ben and Jerry's caramel core ice cream, and it was fantastic! It's definitely my new favorite.
TamiJuly 24, 2014 at 12:21 pm
This recipe sounds divine. Do you have a suggestion for replacing condensed milk? Could I use, coconut or almond milk?
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Mint chip ice cream is hands down my faaaaaavorite ice cream, so I was excited to try this! Thanks Jesseca!!!
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The launch of Dacia in the UK at the start of the year introduced a new way of selling cars. Renault's budget brand offers a range of basic, no-frills models at bargain prices that undercuts similarly sized rivals by a significant margin.
We were impressed by the Duster crossover in our test last year, but thought the entry-level Sandero was too basic for its own good when we tried it. Can the base diesel model, the cheapest diesel car on sale in the UK, charm us more than the petrol version?
Well for a start, this Sandero Ambiance looks better than the entry-level Access. Body-coloured bumpers and plastic wheel trims add more style to the exterior, although you'd struggle to call the car handsome. The bulbous nose is distinctive, but it looks out of proportion with the rest of the car, and fails to make an impact like the sharp Rio or cheeky Panda. It's better from the rear, and looks a little like a Citroen DS3 at the back.
You'll find the cabin rather uninspiring, though, both in its finish and how much kit it offers. The dashboard, headlining and seats are all the same battleship grey, while a black dash top and centre console fail to lift things.
There are pieces of Renault switchgear dotted around the interior, and the flimsy feel to the controls is a constant reminder that you're in a car that's been built down to a price.
At least the heater controls and stereo are unique to the Sandero; you just don't get much more than that for your money. There's no air-con – it's not even an option – the mirrors are manually operated and the steering wheel has no adjustment. However, it's fixed in a position that will be fine for most drivers.
Back seat space is better than in either rival, although the vinyl-effect trim for the front seatbacks and the wind-up windows are further reminders of the car's budget origins.
A boot capacity of 320 litres is nearly 100 litres up on the Panda's, but there aren't any particularly practical touches, apart from the 60:40 split rear seat, while the only ways to open the boot are with the key in the lock or via a flimsy lever by the driver's seat. This operates a cable that unlatches the lock, but the other end is exposed to the elements on the bare painted boot lip, and it feels like it could go slack in time.
Fire up the 1.5-litre diesel, and it's clear that Dacia has scrimped on sound deadening in its search for a lower price tag, as there's a lot more noise from the engine bay than in either rival. The tried-and-tested dCi engine has been used in Renaults for years and, while it can get quite noisy, it delivered a surprisingly decent turn of pace at the test track – enough to make the Dacia quicker than the other models here.
Soft suspension means the Sandero is comfortable in town, as it soaks up bumps without fuss, while the engine's mid-range power ensures there's plenty of grunt to keep pace with city traffic. Head for a twisty road, and the Sandero's budget roots shine through again. There's lots of body roll in corners and very little support from the seats, too, while the lifeless steering and nose-heavy handling discourage keen driving.
But then a budget diesel supermini is more about running costs than driving thrills. In that regard, the Dacia is very attractive. At £8,395, the Sandero 1.5 dCi Ambiance undercuts the Rio 1.1 CRDi 1 by £3,500. Neither car offers you much kit for your cash, although the Sandero edges ahead, as it comes with Bluetooth as standard, and there are hardly any options on the Rio.
Both cars are road tax exempt, while the Dacia's 49.2mpg test economy is 5.9mpg better than the Kia's. Company car tax is only £234 for lower-rate earners, insurance is competitive, plus residual values are a respectable 46.5 per cent over three years, so you'll lose a lot less than on either rival here.
The numbers make a very strong case for the diesel Sandero, but are the savings enough to gloss over the clear compromises made to get its price below £9,000?


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Gross Domestic Product of Italy grew 0.2% in the third quarter of 2015 compared to the previous quarter. This rate is 1-tenth of one percent"} less than the figure of 0.3% published in the second quarter of 2015.
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I haven't enjoyed a FIFA game this much since the GameCube days. I've kept up with the series since then, but have always found it lacking when it came to gameplay. And honestly, FIFA 11 for Wii plays more like a Major League Soccer side on the pitch than an English Premier League team, but it has a new addition this year that makes it quite addicting: street soccer.
Two modes allow you to play street soccer: Streets to Stadiums and Hit the Streets.
Streets to Stadiums had me absolutely hooked for its entire five seasons. In it, players create a character and start out playing soccer on the streets. These five-a-side matches are so fun they should be the template for EA's next FIFA Street game.
Wall passing to yourself and teammates, constant back heels, crazy volleys in tight space, taking on your man one on one…it's all in there and it's all perfect. As someone who enjoys real street soccer quite often, I found the representation of its nuances to be quite accurate in FIFA 11.
The ultimate goal in Streets to Stadiums is implied in the mode's name: to take your player from the dusty blacktop pitches to the glory that is Anfield or Camp Nou.
To get there players will have to perform well and earn fame. You gain fame by choosing up to three tasks you think you can complete in the upcoming match. Some can be as simple as stringing together five passes or scoring with a one-timer.
Players have to take a gamble when choosing which fame moments to shoot for because if you fail, points are subtracted from your fame score.
This is similar to real street soccer. Succeed at an audacious shot or dribble and you'll be lauded for your class by your peers and become a YouTube sensation. Fail and you'll get an earful. It's a real system of reward and repercussion that totally works.
In addition to gaining your player recognition, fame points will also unlock new shoes, goal celebrations, and dribbling moves to customize your character with.
As you play through the mode, your created player will also gain experience points that can be used to increase his skills such as speed, heading, or awareness.
The Hit the Streets mode is an exhibition mode featuring fanciful items like a power shot which can be turned off when you're not in the mood for something resembling a Super Mario sports title.
The street soccer is miles better than the 11 vs. 11 found on the pitch. On the pitch your characters feel like they are on stilts. The game doesn't utilize full 360 degree movement, and thus feels like a last-gen soccer game.
The "actual" soccer has an arcade feel to it. Playing as the above average Fredy Montero doesn't feel any different than using superstar Lionel Messi.
Also adding to the arcade vibe is the fact that it's much harder to shoot the ball over the crossbar than it is to actually get a shot on goal and force a save from the keeper who miraculously manages to barely push the ball around the post each time.
Most of your time spent playing 11 vs. 11 will be in Hit the Pitch and the lackluster Battle for Glory modes.
The Battle for Glory mode (similar to Manager mode in other versions) uses stars and transfer points instead of money when it comes to buying and selling players -- a way to simplify the game for casual players on the Wii I assume. It's problematic because it erases the fun of trying to lure top talent to your side.
If you have the required amount of stars and transfer points, you'll get your player as soon as you select him and click on buy. It's not rewarding and really takes away from the feeling of accomplishment when you assemble an unbeatable team of superstars that would make Chelsea envious.
Similar to Streets to Stadiums, players can choose a goal such as scoring two goals before a match to be rewarded points. Instead of fame points however, players receive points that increase the overall rating of your team and earn you game boosters.
Game boosters are cards you can use to increase your teams skills in tackling or shooting for the duration of the match. They can be saved for difficult matches and even combined to make stronger boosters.
Ultimately, Battle for Glory is pretty bare as far as modes go. It does what it needs to do, but for true soccer aficionados, not being able to tweak every part of your squad is a major blow to keeping the mode interesting for more than a season or two.
Playing online is limited to one-on-one and two-on-two matches. There is no lag (I played online by plugging in an Ethernet cord into my USB adaptor; I didn't use the default WiFi) and players can log into an existing EA online account, create a new one or sign in as a guest.
Using an EA account is a definite plus because it allows you to search for others with accounts and add them to a friends list instead of wrestling with friend codes.
And although the online play feels a tad bit slower than normal matches, they were fun enough for me to add the first person I played against and rematch him to five more games of footy late into the night.
The only major drawback is that there is no way to pause the game for subs or tweaking your squad when online. If there is, it must be mighty hard to access because I tried everything plausible. I also found it odd that the far superior street mode can't be played online.
Tournaments are present and allow players to win anything from the MLS Open Cup to the FA Cup. It's not a real robust mode, but it's there for those interested in winning the virtual representation of their favorite silverware.
Like any sports title, FIFA 11 has its share of problems.
The controls for the game take some getting used to and are less than ideal. Gamers who choose to use a nunchuck and wiimote to play are forced to using a single button for both ground passes and aerial crosses. This doesn't quite work for a sport that demands precision.
Thankfully a classic controller can be plugged in. Those looking to put some serious time into the game against stronger opponents will have to purchase one or look forward to being frustrated as your players screw up that final ball.
The Wii version also seems to be skewed towards the casual crowd with the camera and control settings.
Players can choose easy, medium or hard difficulty, and camera settings consist of selecting height and angle. No choosing the tried and true "tele" setting from other FIFA games, and no choosing more difficulties as you slowly master the game is a silly way to make the game more casual. Similar silly omissions are also found in the game settings.
FIFA 11 for the Wii doesn't have the gloss of its HD big brothers -- or the much better simulation experience -- but is still a lot of fun to play. In fact, I have more fun playing this version, in spite of its problems.
The street mode really shines and carries the game. I'd like to see this mode explored further in future iterations of the series -- especially in the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions.
If you own an HD console, go with that version if you want a more realistic product. However, if you only own a Wii, and if street soccer grabbed your attention, you won't regret picking this up. Just remember to purchase a classic controller to get the most enjoyment out of it.
Score: 8/10
The good: Street Soccer is an absolute blast.
The bad: Soccer on the pitch is lackluster and a bit too arcadey.
The ugly: Characters have a pixelated or jaggy look to them when playing on an HDTV with component cables.