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Joe Yabuki
Voiced by: Teruhiko Aoi (Anime), Kei Tomiyama (Movies), Yoshito Yasuhara (Radio Dramas)
- Anti-Hero: Joe is rude and quick to fight, but he can also be very frivolous at times. Because of his rough upbringing he is a delinquent who likes his solitude, but he later grows to appreciate his new friends and rivals.
- Blood Knight: His speech towards Noriko when the latter tries to talk him out of boxing cements him as one.
- Book Dumb: Grew up on the streets and has very little book learning, though he knows how to read and write. This becomes a major problem when he tries to qualify for a boxing license, and he completely flunks the theoretical portion of the test, which mostly consists of different boxing rules and techniques. He knows the answers themselves, but not their technical names.
- Break the Haughty: It's hard not to feel even a little bit bad for him during the Juvenile arc, when it looks like Danpei has abandoned him (it's actually a Secret Test of Character).
- Broken Ace: He completely falls to pieces after Rikiishi's death.
- Character Development: Yes, he's a jerk. Nope, he's not evil. And yup, he softens up a bit as the series advances and he finds a purpose in life.
- Cry Cute: After the welcome back party, Joe cries Tears of Joy while in bed.
- Death Tropes
- Broke Your Arm Punching Out Cthulhu: Calling Mendoza Cthulhu might be a bit of a stretch, but taking enough of a beating to die right after a fight with the World Champion (and not even win, at least not technically) has got to count for something.
- Go Out with a Smile
- The Hero Dies
- Heroic R.R.O.D.: He dies from exhaustion in his final match.
- Famous Last Words: Before dying, he tells Youko to keep his boxing gloves. In some dubs, it's also a Dying Declaration of Love.
- Hero Killer: Inverted since he is a protagonist. At one point in the series nobody wants to take him on because he took down Rikiishi, Wolf and by technicality, Carlos. Fitting for someone known as "The Grim Reaper" and "Killer Joe"
- Heroic B.S.O.D.: After Rikiishi's death he temporarily suffers from yips and cannot hit people in the temple .
- Hot-Blooded: This is likely his biggest flaw, and constantly gets him into trouble. He cant handle even the slightest insult without attempting to fight the offender.
- How the Mighty Have Fallen: Rikiishi's death traumatizes him harder than expected; his aversion to hitting opponents in the head causes him to lose a lot of matches afterwards. This results in him deciding to fight up in the boonies, despite the fact that they fix the outcome of their matches.
- Irony: Despite his nickname, Joe had only won against one person that he was said to have "killed". Although Riikishi dies, he had beaten Joe in the match via KO. While Carlos receives brain damage from Joe's fight the match was officially called a draw.
- Japanese Delinquents: Joe fits in the delinquent stereotype, but he's a subversion though. He starts the story as a homeless Street Urchin and has never even been in a school. (Which bites him in the ass later.)
- Japanese Pronouns: Up until Joe showed up, all shonen heroes used the non-threatening boku pronoun. He became the Trope Codifier for ore users.
- Jerk Ass: And how.
- Hidden Heart of Gold: He softens up somewhat during the Juvenile arc. Also he seems to genuinely care for the kids from Slum Town.
- Mega Manning: In the final round against Mendoza, he starts using Aoyama's defensive techniques. And in the third round he uses Rikishi's technique for dealing with the triple cross counter.
- Nice Hat: His newsboy red cap.
- Peek-a-Bangs: He is known for his long bangs.
- "The Reason You Suck" Speech: Calls out Kim Yong-bi on being completely full of himself, using his childhood trauma during the Korean War as if it's a badge to be proud of. He finishes off by saying that his actions don't make him superior, but in fact, inferior to men like Rikiishi, who didn't even have water to drink like Kin did and was willing to put himself under such conditions for the sake of having a match with a long-time friend. And this is all while he is beating the hell out of Kin in the match.
- Weight Woe: A late growth spurt pushes him far past the weight limit from a bantamweight note This becomes a problem when he jumps the gun and challenges Kim Yong-bi, especially when the latter devastates someone who went down from the lightweight class to challenge him.
- Why Did It Have to Be Snakes?: After Rikiishi has passed away, Joe is afraid to hit his opponents in the head since that's what finished his rival.
- Worthy Opponent: Considers most of his opponents as one, and in most cases they consider him one.
Danpei Tange
- The Alcoholic: Initially he starts drinking to forget the pain of his broken dreams. He briefly relapses after his first attempt at getting boxing licenses for Nishi and Joe fails, due to the Boxing Commission hating him, but sobers up again.
- Bald of Awesome: Is completly bald.
- Cool Old Guy: Do not underestimate him, he is still able to give strong punches.
- Eyepatch of Power: Wear this because of losing his eye in a match.
- The Lancer and The Mentor: To Joe.
- My Greatest Failure: Became a drunkard after the boxer who he spent years training for the championship threw the fight for money. He snaps out of it shortly after meeting Joe.
- Nice Hat: Occasionally wears one.
- Secret Test of Character: He makes it look like he has betrayed Joe for Aoyama, another prisoner. This is to get Joe to play defensively as well.
Kanishi "Mammoth" Nishi
- Always Second Best: Joe's spot-free record after going pro causes him to develop an inferiority complex. He gets over it thanks to the Slum Town kids and Noriko.
- Beta Couple: With Noriko.
- Big Eater: This becomes a problem eventually, he cant subsist on the diet needed to keep him a middleweight.
- The Big Guy
- The Bully / Fat Bastard: At first.
- Character Development: It comes really suddenly, but he was scared straight off-screen by rumors about the juvenile prison.
- Fire-Forged Friends: Becomes this with Joe in prison after their... awkward first encounter.
- Gentle Giant: This actually works AGAINST him, he's a natural heavyweight, but there are few heavyweight fighters in Asia, and he has trouble keeping his weight down to qualify for middleweight.
- He Cleans Up Nicely: When he was first introduced he was a Fat Bastard. Come around the time after Joe's match with Kim Yong-bi and Nishi actually looks reasonably handsome.
- Japanese Delinquents
- Nice Guy
- Perma-Stubble: Later on.
- Throw the Dog a Bone: He gets a rude awakening once he's taken to the juvenile prison on account of not being the biggest and meanest kid he knows anymore, once he and Joe get into the pros it's shown that he's not very good at boxing and unlike Joe he can't handle the strenuous weight training that Danpei makes him go through due to his size and is ridiculed for it. However, he's shown to be very reliable to the Hayashi family market while Joe struggled to help at all, and eventually Noriko's parents trust him with the business and trust him with Noriko herself.
Youko Shiraki
- Anguished Declaration of Love: to Joe at the end of Volume 19, in one hell of a cliffhanger.
- Anti-Villain: She antagonises Joe mostly during the first half of the series, then organizes most of Joe's fights, and, as he puts it, toys with his fate like a demon. She is, however, a good person when it counts.
- Cool Shades
- Everyone Can See It: Pretty much everyone at Danpei's Gym thinks this regarding her and Joe. They're proven right in Volume 19.
- Heroic B.S.O.D.: Just like Joe, she has one when Rikiishi dies. Unlike him, she recovers quickly.
- Iconic Outfit: Her white and red dress.
- Irony: Despite being the one that always leaves boxing matches whenever they get ugly, and that she cares a great deal for Joe's medical condition, in Joe's fight against Mendoza, she, is the only one who encourages Joe to fight to the bitter end and leave no regrets in the ring. This is despite the fact that Joe's punch-drunk syndrome is so bad at this point that he can't even see out of one of his eyes.
- Love Epiphany: It's not until the matchup between Joe and Mendoza finally becomes a reality that she realizes that the only reason she sticks her nose into Joe's business is because she loves him.
- My God, What Have I Done?: She's plagued with guilt after Carlos hints that he might not have been fighting seriously in his exhibition match against Joe. She's noticeably not her calm and aloof self during the real match between them at Korakuen Hall, fearing that she may have set him up to be killed in the ring.
- All the bloodshed during the match between Carlos and Joe at Korakuen Hall becomes too much for her at one point.
- Non-Idle Rich
- The Ojou: She's a calm, soft-spoken girl from a rich family.
- Silk Hiding Steel: Noted, and respected for being a big-time promoter in a sport considered to be strictly for men. There's mention of another female promoter having broken the gender barrier previously, but she never appears.
- Stay in the Kitchen: Joe is not very fond of her presence in the boxing world. It should however, be noted that Joe is the only one who objects to it throughout the series. While other people were skeptical at first, they pay no attention to her gender once she shows she's more than capable about being a promoter.
- Tender Tears: When she begs Joe to cancel the match against Mendoza once it's revealed that he has punch-drunk syndrome.
- Tragic Keepsake: The boxing gloves she received from Joe in his last fight.
- We Want Our Jerk Back: Of all people, she is the one that helps to convince Joe to get back into boxing after he accidentally kills Rikiishi. Though Joe fires back at her by saying that she's just toying with him, she makes a good point: Rikiishi definitely wouldn't have wanted him to stop boxing.
- What the Hell, Hero?: Called out by Joe when she tries to leave during his match against Rikiishi in juvenile prison, with Joe pointing out that since she's the one that allowed it to happen, she should stick through it. This gets a Call Back during the match between Joe and Carlos, as she remembers that instance when she gets overwhelmed by how ugly the match between Joe and Carlos gets and convinces herself to stay.
- Gets another callback when she leaves during Joe's fight with Mendoza, actually driving away, only to come back once she once again remembers Joe's match against Rikiishi.
Tooru Rikishi
Voiced by: Shūsei Nakamura (Anime), Hideyuki Hori (Videogames)
- The Ace: To an almost ridiculous extent, he outpaces everyone, even Joe, by a mile.
- Casualty in the Ring
- Determinator: Especially notable when he has to lose weight. This ends up being what kills him.
- Disc One Final Boss: A lot of hype is built up between the professional fight between him and Joe, both being regarded as up and coming talents. The match does not disappoint, but his untimely death afterwards does.
- Face of a Thug: Moreso after his weight loss. He's still oddly handsome though.
- Foil: To Joe, obviously. While both are delinquents who take up boxing, Rikiishi is good-natured and looked up to by rest of the delinquents, while Joe is a Jerkass who is hated by many at first.
- Also, Riikishi is sponsored and essentially taken care of by Shiraki Gym, a top class facility run by a wealthy family. Joe is sponsored by Danpei Tange, a trainer who's fallen out of graces with most of the boxing world and has no money to his name.
- Iconic Item: His wheat stalk.
- Japanese Delinquents
- Lantern Jaw of Justice
- The Rival: To Joe.
- The Stoic: In strong contrast to Joe.
- Vitriolic Best Buds: On the day of his release from prison, a guard muses that he and Joe are, in a sense, each other's closest friend. Joe himself realizes this after Rikiishi's death. It almost destroys him
- Weight Woe: Played for Drama. Since he's a Featherweight and Joe's a Bantamweight, he goes through great strains to keep himself two weight classes under his normal size in order for the two to have their fight. This results in the Shiraki Gym resorting to methods such as locking him behind a chained door (which he manages to break down) and tying up all the pipes in the facility. This hellish method also leads to his undoing as the effects from the extreme weight loss as well as the hard blow to the temple from Joe cause his death.
- Worthy Opponent: Spends the beginning of his time in the story as a source of motivation for Joe to be a better boxer, and later on, it's revealed that he views Joe in the same way. All the more tragic when he dies.
Mikinosuke Shiraki
- Non-Idle Rich: Youko's grandpa, Rikishi's boss, and the owner of the Shiraki Gym.
Wolf Kanagushi
- Game-Breaking Injury: Joe's triple cross-counter does irreparable damage to his jaw.
- HeelFace Turn: Takes a long time for it to happen, but at the end of the manga he supports Joe for his last match, actively cheering for him in the stands.
- Hoist by His Own Petard: Wolf beating the kids up lets Joe figure out his strategy because he used the same one while hitting them, due to being in the middle of training
- Not So Different: With Joe. Both are cross-counter specialists and have very short tempers.
- Would Hurt a Child: Beats up Joe's kid friends after he catches them spying on his training. And we mean BEAT UP, as in, had to go to the hospital
- Yakuza: Becomes one for a short period of time. It ends once he finds out the hard way why a person with a glass jaw doesn't make for a good fighter.
Jun Shioya
Jiro Shioya
Harry Robert
- Anti-Villain: Like Carlos, he has little ill-will towards his fighter's opponents and is considered a good guy.
- Eagleland: Type 1.
- Oh Crap!: He too is stunned when Joe shows that he's no pushover for Carlos to play around with.
- Only Known By Their Last Name: He is rarely, if ever, called "Harry".
- Phenotype Stereotype: In the anime.
Joe's kid friends (Sachi, Tarou, Kinoko, Chibi, Churumatsu, Tonkichi)
- Nice Shoes: Sachi has the unfortunate habit of smacking anyone that pisses her off with her geta sandals.
- Morality Pet: Joe cares for them quite a bit.
- Shipper on Deck: For Nishi and Noriko.
Noriko Hayashi
- Girlish Pigtails
- Hopeless Suitor: It's very clear that she likes Joe, even to the point where people like Danpei notice. However, Joe's married to the world of boxing. Plus, her attempt to talk Joe into retirement makes it clear that nothing's gonna happen between them.
- Romantic False Lead: Inverted as Joe is this to her. She gets together with Nishi.
- She Cleans Up Nicely: While she was never really that homely, she looks positively stunning once she perms her hair and gets rid of the drab clothing.
Keshichi Hayaka
Tamao Hayashi
Kim Yong-bi
- Afraid of Blood: Can't stand the sight of blood due to mistakenly killing his father.
- Foil: To Joe. Kim's boxing style is methodical, while Joe's style is flashy and often unpredictable.
- He also acts as a foil to Joe's other major opponents. Riikiishi and Carlos may have had radically different personalities outside of the ring, but once in the ring they fought with passion and treated the ring like if it were a life and death situation. Kim is stoic and dispassionate both in the ring and out of it, viewing boxing as "just a game".
- Genius Bruiser: His boxing style is compared to that of a trained physician, as if he's dissecting them methodically.
- Harmful to Minors: During the Korean War, he got to watch his mother be killed by a firebomb and the body burn to a crisp in front of him. He was around the same age as the current Slum Town kids when this happened. And that's not even describing what happened to his dad...
- Hoist by His Own Petard: His phobia of blood makes him scream like a madman...and nothing else. Once one of his punches cuts Joe, he just stands there screaming, allowing Joe to shut him up for good by knocking him over the ropes.
- Not So Stoic: Has a panic attack during Joe's No-Holds-Barred Beatdown of Danpei after he sees the latter on the ground bleeding profusely. His freak out manages to frighten everyone in the room, including Joe.
- Also loses his cool while Joe calls him out on his assholish behavior during their match, swinging wildly and unpredictably which allows Joe to hit him with ease.
- Out, Damned Spot!: In a similar vein to the Trope Namer, he causes a stir during his stay at the Asian Boxing Club by washing his hands and mumbling about them being bloody. All night, in fact. Quoth his trainer.
- He sees blood on his hands that he can't wash away no matter how hard he tries.
- Self-Made Orphan: See above
- Spell My Name with an "S": His name has been given as Kim Yong-pi, Kim Yong-bi and even Kin Ryuhi.
- "The Reason You Suck" Speech: Gives one to Joe, mocking him for not being able to control his weight like he can and is disgusted by how he builds himself up like a hungry champion, while he experienced real hunger and hardship starving in the streets of South Korea during the Korean War. Joe returns the favor during their match.
- Ax-Crazy: Attacks people without abandon, regardless of if he's in a boxing match or not, and with little to no provocation whatsoever.
- Combat Pragmatist: Comes with his um, different kind of boxing style.
- Foreign Wrestling Heel: Portrayed as this. When he comes out to fight, literally nobody cheers for him. Notable in that even jerkasses like Kim Yong-bi had fans in the stands; whenever Harimao's involved in a fight everyone wants to see him get beaten.
- Freak Out: starts headbutting and biting Joe after getting knocked down one too many times.
- Hair-Trigger Temper: Of course that would imply that he needs something to get angry at.
- Insane Troll Logic/Loophole Abuse: Lives off of it. Complain about him standing on the ropes? The rules state that he can't step outside of them but there's nothing about them that says he can't step on them. Complain about him jumping up in the air? Ref states that there's no rule against that either. Basically, whenever the crowd complains about his antics in the ring, expect them to be met with the ref saying that there Ain't No Rule.
- Meaningful Name/Names to Run Away from Really Fast: Harimao means 'Tiger' in Malay. Given his style it's not hard to see why.
- Never Learned to Read
- Only Known by Their Nickname: He originally went by his real name, which was much longer and harder to pronounce. After a certain incident they just called him Harimao.
- Raised by Wolves: Was raised in the deepest parts of a Malaysian jungle by beasts of the wild before being found by villagers.
- Shadow Archetype: To Joe. He's basically an extreme version of what Joe would have been if Danpei hadn't found him.
- The Unintelligible: Sort of. It's only made clear that he can't speak Japanese, implying that he can speak his native tongue. But with his roars and grunts you really have to wonder.
- Trademark Favorite Food: Chocolate is the only thing that makes Harimao settle down. Even then it sometimes fails.
- Unskilled, but Strong: Hoo boy. It's debatable if what he practices is even boxing.
- Villainous Breakdown: Once Joe counters his corkscrew backflip punch with an even wilder technique he becomes terrified, realizing that he has met his match in Joe. As the announcer puts it, to him Joe is "a foe even wilder than himself existing in civilization".
- Wild Child: Quickly proves that Shiraki was not joking when she said she had found an animal of a boxer.
Jose Mendoza
- The Ace: Strongly established then subverted once he fights Joe.
- Achilles' Heel/Fatal Flaw: A very big one, as Joe points out in their match. Jose is great at dishing out damage, but not good at taking it.
- Berserk Button: Joe is warned by the Hawaiian press that Mendoza hates loud-mouthed people and that they are one of the few things that make him upset. Joe, being Joe, only learns this fact the hard way when he mouths off to Mendoza and is dropped by a single punch.
- Combat Pragmatist: Realizes that Joe can't see out of the left side of his eye during their match, no doubt due to injury taking a toll on his body. He doesn't hesitate to exploit that.
- Defeating the Undefeatable: He is introduced in the series via knocking out Carlos in Round 1. And he's not afraid to show off the fact that he is this; when the series actually shows one of his fights, he allows his opponent, a guy nicknamed "The Hawaiian Bull", to hit him at point-blank range in order to show off that nobody's punches can leave a mark on him before effortlessly KOing his opponent. But later, we find out that he's not quite this trope.
- Early-Bird Cameo: He is mentioned by Danpei during the Prison Arc.
- Establishing Character Moment: When he first appears in the series proper he grabs Joe's shoulders and wishing him good luck. This was enough to leave bruises on Joe. That's how powerful he was.
- Freak Out: Not even Mendoza can keep his composure against Joe. He loses all inhibitions and goes crazy when no matter what he throws at Joe, Joe just won't go down.
- Happily Married
- Hero Antagonist
- Jerk with a Heart of Gold: Despite treating Joe like crap (though to be fair like every other situation where he pisses someone off, Joe was asking for it), Mendoza respects him a great deal. That's why he's disappointed in their fight when Joe comes out with only one goal in mind.
- Locked into Strangeness: His hair turns white after the fatal fight with Joe.
- Oh Crap!: When Joe finds out that his display against the Hawaiian Bull was nothing more than an elaborate bluff: by recreating the situation in their match, Joe shows that holding a boxer's shoulder greatly reduces a boxer's upper body strength.
- Politically Incorrect Hero: Calls Joe names such as "yellow brute" and "yellow sheep", but for the most part is respectful to the other Japanese characters in the story.
- Pyrrhic Victory: Beats Joe, but at the cost of his youth.
- Terse Talker
- Heroic Antagonist Breakdown: Starts getting very philosophical (and not in the good kind) when Joe takes enough damage to cripple, if not outright kill someone —but Joe just keeps coming back off the mat no matter how many times he knocks him down.Joe Yabuki...must have already died long ago...but then...who am I fighting with on the ring...? Am I fighting with his phantom...? Or am I trapped in a nightmare...?
- Worthy Opponent: Considers Joe as one; in fact he considers him to be a better man than he is when despite taking inhumane amounts of damage, Joe continues to fight. Mendoza admits that at that point he would give up, thinking more about returning home to his family.
- Why Won't You Stay Down: Joe refusing to go down confuses him greatly.
Carlos Rivera
Voiced by: Ryusei Nakao (Second series)
- Anti-Villain: He's very laid-back and friendly outside the ring. When he took some time off from boxing one day he spends most of it singing and hanging out with the Slum Town Kids.
- Beware the Nice Ones/Beware the Silly Ones: Has a tendency to play around with opponents to make the matches more exciting, luring them into a false sense of confidence that they can beat him. Then, he shows them why he's called the "Venezuelan Terror".
- Actually enforced in-story by his trainer Harry Robert. When asked by the media, Robert says that the reason Carlos plays around with his opponents is because when he gets serious, no other gym (understandably) wants their boxers to challenge him.
- Came Back Wrong: When he returns after being "retired" by Mendoza, he is pretty much a shell of his former self.
- Foreshadowing:
- On his departure from Japan, he suddenly falls down while saying his goodbyes to the Japanese people. After his disastrous fight against Jose Mendoza, Robert reveals to the press that Carlos was having difficulty doing simple tasks such as ascending the stairs, something that usually happens to boxers that suffer from Punch-Drunk Syndrome.
- At the end of the 4th round in his match against Joe, Robert talks to him, only for him to be ignored. Then he starts to blatantly fight wild and dirty until he's knocked down by Joe, who also starts to fight dirty. His shocked expression when Joe knocks him down indicates that Carlos may have not been completely there when committing all of those fouls, signifying the start of his brain damage.
- Freak Out: Pretty much loses his shit and starts to fight dirty against Joe after the fourth round in their bout at Korakuen Hall, going from simple fouls such as elbow strikes and head-butts to attempting to attack an already downed Joe, knocking the referee out of his way to do so.
- Game-Breaking Injury: Fights Jose and pays the price through acquiring severe brain damage.
- Jerk with a Heart of Gold: Regardless of necessary reasons why, his method of baiting opponents into getting the living daylights beaten out of them tend to rub some readers the wrong way. Apart from that he shows no jerkish tendencies and for the most part, is a good guy.
- Let's Get Dangerous: As noted above. He may be a charismatic playboy but don't ever think that his ranking in the world is for show.
- Oh Crap!: In his bout against Joe at Korakuen Hall.
- When at the beginning of the match, he realizes that Joe isn't the same person he fought during their spar and exhibition match
- When Joe manages to make it to his feet and continue fighting after Carlos brutally counters the rope trick that Joe used to surprise him in their exhibition match.
- Finally, when Joe knocks him down even after he's countered Joe's rope techniques. It completely changes the complexion of the fight as Carlos becomes noticeably sloppier in his movements.
- Put on a Bus: After his disastrous fight against Mendoza he retires and was seen wandering the streets of Venezuela.
Goromaki Gondo
- Anti-Villain: A very benevolent yakuza even before Joe befriends him.
- Defeat Means Friendship: When he calls Wolf a disgrace of a person after beating him up, he is in turn beaten up by an enraged Joe.
- HeelFace Turn
- Neighbourhood-Friendly Gangsters: Post HeelFace Turn he shows up to help Joe prepare for his fight against Harimao.
Tiger Oozaki
- Sacrificial Lion: Is the first Japanese boxer unfortunate enough to taste Carlos' real strength.
- Unwitting Instigator of Doom: Twice.
- First time, his actions lay out a blueprint for many of the other boxers on how to beat a reinvigorated Joe, and the losses that Joe picks up destroys nearly all of his reputation in the boxing world.
- Second time, his overconfidence brings out the real Carlos in their match and he's literally beaten before he realizes it. Everyone else that was willing to fight Carlos under the thought that he wasn't very good realizes that they are completely screwed because they can't back out. Carlos was more than happy to prove them correct, brutalizing all of them.


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Marquez: I See No Point in Fighting Manny Pacquiao Again
By Miguel Rivera
Juan Manuel Marquez (55-6-1, 40KOs) is holding the high hand. The four division world champion doesn't see a reason for a fifth fight with Manny Pacquiao (54-5-2, 38KOs). Since 2004, Marquez has been chasing fights with Pacquiao. He practically begged and used every tactic possible to secure a third match in 2011. After knocking Pacquiao out in the sixth round of last December's fourth showdown, Marquez almost retired but made a decision to continue fighting.
Last week, Marquez's promoter Fernando Beltran of Zanfer Promotions said Pacquiao was not necessarily the next opponent for Marquez. They plan to review all of the offers out there and analyze all of the possible options.
Marquez says that he doesn't see a reason for a fith meeting, after achieving the result he always wanted - a clear and decisive victory over Pacquiao.
"I think for me there is no point [in a fifth fight]. We already achieved the desired result. Then why do it? So I also asked several people, several friends that I have around me and they told me not to do it, that there is no point in a fifth fight. I said before the fourth fight that no matter how this fight ends, there can not be a fifth," Marquez said.
There is only one problem Marquez will face. A fifth fight with Pacquiao is the biggest payday out there for him. At 39-years-old, Marquez will want the biggest purses possible to close out his long career. A fifth fight Manny will give him the biggest purse possible.
Manny Pacquiao said, "I don't think so, this business is over" when asked if he would give Marquez a rematch after fight 2. Nevertheless, fight 3 was eventually made. Some people think it was out of the kindness of Pacquiao's…Comment by ddeg10 on 02-05-2013
[QUOTE=baya;12995188]marquez was getting kind of handled until he landed that beautiful, un-lucky shot. i'd pay for a 5th fight. but then i'd always pay for a jmm or a pac fight.[/QUOTE] I disagree. Marquez was choosing his spots wisely and…Comment by ddeg10 on 02-05-2013
Marquez unfortunately needs another pay day to secure his financial well being into retirement. We all know he should retire on top like many others have failed to do, but the money is too tempting. He needs to take this…Comment by straightleft on 02-05-2013
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–, Sunday, April, 19, 2009, (2:40pm)
The Sunshine Coast Daily should be more worried by these four new graduates:
These could be the faces guiding the world on how best to adapt and cope with the inevitable effects of climate change. It has taken some 12, others 18 months to gain the knowledge they need to lead councils, government bodies and members of the public in the right direction to handle climate change.
That knowledge saw them last night become the first in the world to receive a Master of Climate Change Adaptation degree from the University of the Sunshine Coast.
First problem: We're now creating graduates whose professional qualifications will be useless if global warming alarmism is allowed to weaken.
Second problem: These are graduates who first agreed there was a problem, before studying it in depth:
"The reason I did this degree was because climate change is impacting on everybody," she said.
Third problem: It takes just 12 months to turn into a professional global warming alarmist?
(Thanks to reader John.)
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The global warming/climate change industry - the industry of deceit and delusion. No surprise that an Emission Trading Scam is embraced so fervently by bankers, fund managers, brokers and other assorted mainchancers.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (03:54pm)
Sun 19 Apr 09 (05:11pm)
I see this differently. If we are to have fruitful debate in this area then we need education on all sides. To date, the majority opinion of the scientific community is that global warming is real, and again, the majority opinion is that it is man made. So it makes sense that we encourage others to study it.
Now, take this a step further. What if these graduates actually discover that it is not real? They are certainly well placed now to use their knowledge to seek the answers.
If, as most of you believe, this whole warming thing is a beat up then you have nothing to fear about what these people do. However, your attacks on these kids border on the edge of nastiness simply because they chose to study something you don't like. I hate lawyers, but I respect any kid who goes to uni to be one. I suggest if you showed more respect and less sneering to your enemies you might actaully get somewhere.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (05:18pm)
Shades of Grey, do you really believe that these graduates will study the issue with intent to prove all their qualifications meaningless?
I think you may be deluding yourself.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (05:24pm)
shades of grey - that is fair comment and in line with my current thinking.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (05:40pm)
The majority of opinion to which you refer is gravy train opinion. Science is not about opinion. The hypothesis of AGW is easy to shoot down. It is a study of low order variables with little or no consideration of the main variables. It is UN politics and like much of UN politics it is useless. These kids are being brainwashed. A lot of teachers in this area demonstrate little knowledge of competent modelling. You seem to think that all opinions should have their 15 minutes of fame. Poorly founded opinion is opinion that should be discarded.
Reference to nastiness is typical left wing defence and evidence of ignorance and lazy thinking.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (05:45pm)
Now, take this a step further. What if these graduates actually discover that it is not real? They are certainly well placed now to use their knowledge to seek the answers.
After 12 to 18 months of indoctrination by "climate" scientists you are expecting, shades of grey, these students to forget all they have been taught and change their views. You must be the most optimistic person the planet. You have also lost touch with reality.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (05:50pm)
Shades of Grey, please provide evidence that the "the majority opinion of the scientific community is that global warming is real".
Forget about citing the various national academies of science because none surveyed its members before the executives or their subcommittees released statements. Also forget about citing any organisation that collects substantial research funding on the assumption of man-made warming. And of course forget about the dodgy "surveys" that have been undertaken, like Oreskes's work where she looked for a sequence of words far more often used by alarmists.
By the way, please also explain why you think these AGW acolytes will "use their knowledge to seek the answers". Do you really think that under any circumstances any of them would be prepared to say that their university course was a complete waste of time?
Sun 19 Apr 09 (06:07pm)
shades of grey Sun 19 Apr 09 (04:11pm):
'I see this differently. If we are to have fruitful debate in this area then we need education on all sides. To date, the majority opinion of the scientific community is that global warming is real, and again, the majority opinion is that it is man made. ...'
You would need to begin that 'fruitful debate' in an honest manner however, as your statements (above) aren't honest presentation of FACT. Opinion is not making of SCIENCE, and SCIENCE has not presented any ability for CO2 to alter temperature trends ...the (political) effort to manufacture a 'liner fit' now also seen failing.
These few should be the only to 'gain' a 'Master of Climate Change Adaptation' qualification ...they will join (and sooner, rather than later) the rapidly growing number of unemployed graduates already created by Institutions forgoing honest educating to garner increased funding (by 'course creation' that) pandering so to political demands.
The 'Master of Climate Change Adaptation' is only the present day equivalent of that 'flat earther' of a previous Age, the political effort (attempting to be leading of 'councils, government bodies and members of the public up the proverbial path) is to create 'a Qualification'!
That done so to deal politically with an issue ...whilst there's only a Situation that's never been an Environmental Problem. This Planet presents warming and cooling, whilst Climate Effect is being noted (and increasingly so) as an Oscillation.
These individuals are near unemployable already, that as the Climate 'down-swing' becomes more obviously observed. The dissatisfaction seen made by those unemployed graduates (as already exists) can only mean that Institutions that deliberately create 'nonsense courses', as this is, will increasingly risk civil (class) actions made by (groups of) individuals needing to recoup monies so to retrain themselves.
Yours, Peter K. Anderson aka Hartlod(TM)
Sun 19 Apr 09 (06:26pm)
Now, take this a step further. What if these graduates actually discover that it is not real?
You're joking aren't you, shades?
They've got about as much chance of discovering the theory of everything. Actually, I'd say better. At least they may actually have the inclination to do that.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (06:41pm)
To date, the majority opinion of the scientific community is that global warming is real, and again, the majority opinion is that it is man made
Is it? Can you show Mr Logic where you get this information?
In replying, please note that the IPCC is a political body, not a scientific body.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (07:04pm)
Shades of grey might be correct. Look closely, it's a 'climate change adaptation degree'.
The key word 'adaptation' means they are probably already up to speed in this debate and are backing the sceptics point of view. We can only hope so.
Otherwise, we have entered the Orwellian age where reason goes unrecognized. There are some at the University of West England who think climate change denial is a psychological disorder. Ho hum
Sun 19 Apr 09 (07:36pm)
Shades of grey, These people make the assumption that AGW is true and are only looking at the effects of AGW as if it is true.
Egg all over their face when they finally realize there whole course has been based on a false premis.
This is the whole problem with this scam everyone is looking at the result of AGW and not looking back to confirm if the AGW theory is itself built on sound science. Which we now know for certain it is not.
But such is the industry now built on this falsehood everyone is just going along with it, knowing when it all falls apart they can just point the finger at the IPCC and say "we were just following what the IPCC was telling us. In the meantime all the studies are based on if's but's and maybe's all sounding plausible if you believe the original theory is beyond doubt. But sound down right stupid and gullible when you know the theory of AGW is WRONG.
Great scape goat the IPCC.
This stuff just makes me sick, what has the world come too when so many people can be fooled like this.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (07:50pm)
funny thing is most scientist DONT FALL FOR THE AGW myth.
It just seems to be the ones with their government funding hitched to this gravy train.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (07:54pm)
It's worth noting, that this "education" is predicated on AGW being real. That "reailty" is assumed, so there would be no basis as far as these students are concerned, to question AGW. Add to that, self interest, it would simply not be in their interest to go against the AGW "consensus".
My local council has created a full time position for climate change officer or something to that affect… I find it disturbing that, given what I know about AGW, government on every level is heading along under a misaprehension (IMHO).
What happens to these jobs when AGW is accepted to have been false?
My fear is that this will never be allowed to happen, even if we do, as suspected, go into a 30 year cooling cycle.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (07:55pm)
I suggest if you showed more respect [...]
Oh, child. Respect can only be earned.
Needs More Work - D+
Now that you've got your diploma mill "degree" as a self-proclaimed "Climate Master®," I suggest you hang it up on your wall, swallow your losses and apply yourself to something a little more useful, and start work on earning yourself some respect.
You are not nearly as superior, precious or even special as you think you are, little petal. You will learn that as you mature. Good luck.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (08:03pm)
Shades of Grey: that'd be about as likely as a Doctor of Divinity exploring things "outside" religion. Might happen, probably won't.
However, your attacks on these kids border on the edge of nastiness simply because they chose to study something you don't like. I hate lawyers, but I respect any kid who goes to uni to be one.
BTW, judging from the pic, these "kids" seem to be in their late forties.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (10:32pm)
Shades of grey and Sonny fabich, I dopn't care what these students study or beleive in, but I object them feeding off the taxpayers teat.
If you beleive in global warming finance your own projects to counter your useless beleifs. Henry Ford and many others produced products demanded by the consumer and so it should be with wind turbines, solar pannels or whatever without government involvement.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (11:03pm)
You all have a comprehension problem.
Nowhere does the article use the term Global Warming, it refers to Climate Change.
Now, if what AB says is correct and the Earth is cooling, that would count as Climate Change.
And we will certainly need educated people to help us through the cold times ahead.
Or do you think you can build your own igloo.
Mon 20 Apr 09 (04:25am)
According to the USC web site, one needn't have a Bachelor of Science degree as a prerequisite to entering the Master of Climate Change Adaptation program. The master's program offers no climate or geophysical science but does offer some units in marine science related studies, probably aimed at handling the 30 foot rise in sea level anticipated by the glooball warmenists. Some of the units I noted were in the areas of "Governance, Engagement and Capacity Building and Applied Regional and Community Engagement."
Thus, you lucky folks may have people with journalism or communications degrees forming the bulk of knowledge they will use "to lead councils, government bodies and members of the public in the right direction to handle climate change."
I wonder if these graduates will be able to function in their chosen field if the climate cools?
Mon 20 Apr 09 (11:20am)
Shades of Grey. Could you please tell me where the fruitful debate takes place? Certainly not on the ABC which shuts out or denigrates dissenters, certainly not in the print media which prints alarmist propaganda without quoting anyone who refutes the claims. Could you please enlighten me as to where I can find a programme anywhere in the media that takes the opposing view to the alarmists? And as for the scientific community there are MANY who challenge the assertions and for their reward they get abuse and personal and professional attacks (the "they're all in the pay of oil companies" slander) while those who go along with the scam - sometimes cynically and dishonestly - are rewarded with research money, honours and sinecures. There has been ample opportunity for "fruitful debate" but when that debate proves that climate change/global warming is a massive scam perpetrated by those who are making huge money out of it OR it is based on faulty science, erratic computer models and fear mongering by the likes of Al Gore, then mysteriously the "fruitful debate" withers on the vine. And as for these graduates getting a degree I am hoping to enroll in a course that will prove the veracity of fairy stories and get my Masters in Disneyland Studies.
If they are of the first group to "earn" this degree (or is it s masters?), then what of the qualifications of their lecturer or tutor or whoever decided to qualify them with this piece of paper?
Sun 19 Apr 09 (03:57pm)
Sun 19 Apr 09 (05:04pm)
I would say they had the same qualifications as any one taking a course for the first time, such as all of the computer courses that blossomed in the 70's. Your argument is basless because whether or not you agree with the course, if you had your way, no new courses would ever be extablished.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (05:18pm)
I have seen courses in new areas start. They start out of research. Tim K's question is fair. Shades of grey's response is a very weak justification of the legitimacy of the course. Just because something is new does not justify teaching it. AGW has no justification except unfounded rantings by alarmists.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (05:57pm)
That knowledge saw them last night become the first in the world to receive a Master of Climate Change Adaptation degree from the University of the Sunshine Coast.
I believe that this is where the phrase "only in Australia" will start to gain ground…
Sun 19 Apr 09 (06:19pm)
Masters Degrees in Stupidity more like it.
Awarded only to the most gullible and easily led amongst us.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (07:44pm)
Shades of grey's response is a very weak justification of the legitimacy of the course.
Does anyone else here get the idea from shades of grey's incredibly immature frantic-but-illogical defence of this course, she is one of this first crop of new Sunshine Coast "Climate Masters"?
She's taking this waaaaaaay too personally.
Or maybe she's the lecturer?
Mon 20 Apr 09 (12:05am)
Shady says:
"I would say they had the same qualifications as any one taking a course for the first time, such as all of the computer courses that blossomed in the 70's."
Shady, computers are REAL, and had been used since the 1950s to do productive things in society.
AGW is a speculative hypothesis, in other words, a myth, supported by strong political forces and Big Eco dollars.
Study this 'course' if you like, but its should be regarded as nothing more than a 'policital thought movement' course.
Mon 20 Apr 09 (04:58am)
But, there were eight Master of Counting Angels on the Head of a Pin degrees awarded too.
Qualifications suitable only for government work.
University ? If it was just Sunshine Coast uni we could poke fun at it as some loan case of country bumpkinship. But no, most if not all uni's have climate change centres. After all Melbourne Uni has David Karoly. And just academics in ivory towers ? No CSIRO and of course the UN are in on it. So uni's don't have to teach knowledge ? Uni's don't know what knowledge is ? This is the stuff of the dark ages. What next, courses on predicting the future by examining goats entrails. What a mockery this makes of peer review. What a mockery of the rank of professor. Are TAFE's now truly our highest level of real learning ? And what happens to the academics who have perpetrated this fraud ? This is worse than plagiarism - a sackable offense.
Note: this is Rudd's support base. What does Rudd stand for ?
All totally dumbfounding.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (04:01pm)
Sun 19 Apr 09 (05:32pm)
I wonder Tazz if the Sunshine Coast selected their lecturers and tutors from the ranks of the Queensland Conservation Council. If they did they could proudly boast that the Chair Dr Linda Selvey was TRAINED by no other than big Al Gore. Now that would give them some credibility!!!
Dr Linda Selvey - Chair
Linda has been chair of QCC for the past four years. An active conservationist all of her adult life,she has been involved in a range of campaigns including the Wet Tropics, Mt Etna and Tully-Millstream. She is particularly passionate about climate change, and was trained by Al Gore to be a presenter as part of the Climate Project. Linda is passionate about social justice and is a public health physician who works in a senior role in Queensland Health. Linda is a very keen cyclist, and enjoys touring and racing at Masters level.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (10:40pm)
Appreciate the deeper point, Tazz, but I don't think that should stop us making fun of the University of the Sunshine Coast. For example, the graduates may have been drop outs from the more demanding Masters in Sensual Massage.
12 months to study for an 'official' degree in Fantasy!?
I'm still pissed off my son is taught AGW is FACT in Secondary School.
Very Wrong Indeed!
Sun 19 Apr 09 (04:04pm)
Sun 19 Apr 09 (07:51pm)
12 months???
Here, let me give it a try:
There. Took me about 10 seconds. Are they thick or something?
Sun 19 Apr 09 (08:06pm)
It's a post grad Masters by research. They already have a degree (with honours) that's taken 3 to 4 years fulltime or equivalent industry experience.
I still think it's a crock, though.
I hope they know how to flip burgers.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (04:06pm)
Sun 19 Apr 09 (05:53pm)
I think your comment is funny, except these new Green engineers are finding lots of work in government departments where their ignorance becomes law and you and I pay for its excesses. Just try to cut a tree down on your own property, or try and subdivide your own land at a reasonable cost. They're already in power at local council level and no one is reining them.
So there is no climate change now (wow - the climate is static - no droughts etc. - nothing affects the weather, man or nature)? Why do you keep on contradicting yourself? Mind you people join the church beleiving in god up front. No problem there.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (04:08pm)
Sun 19 Apr 09 (05:10pm)
"So there is no climate change now (wow - the climate is static - no droughts etc. - nothing affects the weather, man or nature)? Why do you keep on contradicting yourself?"
Sun 19 Apr 09 (06:31pm)
You idiot.
There was never a mention by Andrew Bolt of "no climate change". Of course the climate changes. It ALWAYS has, and you know what… there is evidence to justify that statement.
However you are indeed a fool if you think that this course is anything else than a brainwash for gullible little tools of the green movement.
I predict there will be NO science in this course. I suspect it is a "humanities" course with no scientific or reality merit in any way shape or form. I may be wrong, but, seriously, I do not expect to be pleasantly surprised.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (08:04pm)
freddie; the terminology is confusing to guys like you because the people spruiking man-made global warming [AGW] call it climate change. Noone is denying that climate changes; it is never the same; but the hypocrisy of the AGW crew is that they like to pretend that climate was steady before wicked man came along and started burning fossil fuels and releasing that nasty pollutant, CO2. But this is not true as this comparison between the AGW version of temperature over the last 1000 years and what really happened shows;
Climate changes all the time and not because of AGW. Now don't be stupid.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (08:09pm)
The climate is changing. It always has changed, it always will. That has never been denied.
The big kerfuffle is anthropogenic global warming (AGW).
Those that believe in AGW seem to drop the A part of it. Maybe the word's too big for them, or maybe it's to muddy the waters, as it seems to have for you.
Your welcome.
"....some 12, others 18 months..."
Sorry, it takes 2 years to get a Masters, unless it is a research Masters and you are very, very smart.
Sounds to me like overblown graduate diplomas, and probably about as much value as toilet paper - good for cleaning up after a bowel movement.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (04:17pm)
Only one year to obtain a Master's Degree ? And what in the name of everything is "Climate Change Adaptation" ? WQhat can this |knowledge" be used to achie4ve, other than more arguments regarding something that no-one has any real knowledge of - unless they have a time machine. Currently, all these arguments are nothing but personal opinions.
But everyone has known for a long time that our world has gone from boiling hot to freezing cold and round and round again for millions of centuries, so what's new about the climate getting hotter or colder as the centuries go by ?
Sun 19 Apr 09 (04:20pm)
Ah gawd,
I had no idea it had gone this far.
These poor deluded bright young things are going to be unemployable in 12 months when the entire edifice comes crashing down.
I am not sure about HECS or how that works these days, but I imagine that university has taken money from these people for teaching them this Alarmist Claptrap, and giving them this piece of paper, which is almost certainly going to be worthless.
I hope the poor deluded young things get up a class action against the university which has so cruelly misled them. At the very least their fees, if they have paid them, must be repaid when this all comes crashing down. As it will.
If this was in the corporate world it would be a criminal offence.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (04:24pm)
Sun 19 Apr 09 (10:05pm)
There are many deluded young things out there GregJ. Some choose courses they believe they can obtain a degree in but it is no guarantee that they will get a job. It is important to those people though to have the "letters", it looks good. They go along with what is fashionable at the time, you don't actually have to believe it, just pretend you do. It is not what you do that is important, it's how good you look doing it.
There's money in them there lies. (For Universities that is, for graduates it will be another one of those useless bits of paper.)
Sun 19 Apr 09 (04:28pm)
Sun 19 Apr 09 (05:54pm)
I wonder how much the university charged for this course.
I use the term "course" very loosely in this instance; "fantasy" would be more appropriate.
Great, so now not only will we have those blinded by green faith telling us all the earth is doomed, we will also have a bunch of degree waving fanatics berating us all with their 'knowledge'. What an absolute joke. And where is this knowledge they have now gained come from? Manipulated computer data modelling to prove a man-made theory about natural weather patterns? So basically, if information is derived from raw data (for eg. the broken hockey stick), and knowledge is derived from information when put into context (lies), then what is to be made of this knowledge gained by these Masters of the Climateverse???
"The reason I did this degree was because climate change is impacting on everybody," she said.
The only fact amongst all this is that the topic of climate change is indeed impacting on all of us & it has to stop.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (04:31pm)
Ladies and gentlemen, meet the 21st century's high priests. Complete with a pre-determined belief in their chosen vocation, and a whole 12 months of learning how to tell us mere mortals how we should live our lives.
Maybe the University of the Sunshine Coast should rename itself the Seminary of the Sunshine Coast.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (04:37pm)
Hmmm, sounds like homeopathy or a Travel agent's degree, redundant and pointless. Congrats to the UoSC for perpetuating a scam on their student body that will only ever set them up for ridicule and a never ending bitterness at their service provider. Further, congratulations for also shooting your own employer in the foot.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (04:42pm)
Sun 19 Apr 09 (08:09pm)
A double-'degree' in homeopathy and "climate change mastership" sounds like a sure recipe for success.
If not, I'll forward them some emails I've received from this really nice Nigerian man ...
Master of Climate Change Adaptation Degree from the University of the Sunshine Coast?
Sun 19 Apr 09 (04:44pm)
Sun 19 Apr 09 (08:00pm)
Master of Climate Change Adaptation degree from the University of the Sunshine Coast?
Master of Climate Change Adaptation degree from the University of the Sunshine Coast
That so sounds like one of those buy-a-degree internet spams!
Just advise all councils to build giant wind turbines, isn't that what this is all about?
This is the height of arrogance and dishonesty, to create a degree course for something that is still very debatable is just a ploy to give the consensus an aura of credibility.
I suppose they could get a job at the IPCC until they to are completely discredited.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (04:46pm)
There must be a list of Claytons "Claytons Unis" then. Like University of Western Sydney which had a Chair for gambling a few years ago.
Dumbing down the whole place is what's happening.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (04:48pm)
But there's more with steak knives thrown in.
University of the Sunshine Coast offers:
Graduate Certificate in Climate Change Adaptation
Graduate Certificate in Environmental Change Management
Graduate Diploma in Climate Change Adaptation
Graduate Diploma in Environmental Change Management
Master of Climate Change Adaptation
Master of Environmental Change Management
Master of Climate Change Adaptation by Research
Master of Environmental Change Management by Research
Sun 19 Apr 09 (04:50pm)
Sun 19 Apr 09 (05:13pm)
And guess what, janama, these qualifications actually do mean something. Areas such as land management, water management and mining are looking for these skills. Applaud the kids for trying to get a career.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (06:22pm)
"And guess what, janama, these qualifications actually do mean something"
They'd mean an awful lot more if they didn't come from a University ranked 37th out of 37 in Australia. See tables 3 and 4 listing "Research Performance and Standing"
Sun 19 Apr 09 (06:28pm)
Nobody on this blog, as far as I can tell it, would disparage these kids for attempting to better themselves and to educate themselves by gaining a further degree.
The objection we have - I think - is in the venality of these so called educational institutions in offering/selling a higher degree in an area as if the science in that area was 'settled'.
You may as well sell degrees in ghost whispering on the assumption that some poor deluded fools actually believe such a thing.
It is a scam and a disgrace and I can see lawsuits coming out of this when those degrees turn out to be worthless.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (07:03pm)
shades of grey replied to janama
Sun 19 Apr 09 (04:13pm)
And guess what....these qualifications actually do mean something .
Yes they mean (and show) something alright. They show where the money is. A nonsense "university" (trumped up CAE - one of the Claytons unis) has a bright idea to get in on the funding rort. How to adapt to something 'we' decided on. Dont release your data, obstruct true scientific examination, start with the conclusion and get only so much data so it fits the original idea etc etc. Repeat the conclusions as if they hadn't been challenged/demolished time and time again.
You little bewdy.
Be in it, mate!
Sun 19 Apr 09 (07:45pm)
University of the Sunshine Coast
I wouldn't be too worried if I were you. According to Dear Leader, Dengue Fever and coastal innundation will reach the Sunshine Coast anytime over the next 20 years.
[quote]"Subtropical cities such as Brisbane, and even those that are currently only marginally subtropical, like Sydney, will become increasingly suitable for diseases such as dengue fever, Ross River virus and perhaps eventually malaria."
So there!
The Sunshine Coast Daily is a typical regional rag (ie, the advertising is vastly more interesting and informative than the journalism) and the Sunshine Coast University is painfully amateur and desperate for publicity and credibility. Yes, I used to live there.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (04:56pm)
The first degree of Indoctrination from the University of the Sunshine Coast, Oh how appropriate, just a sugar cane field from PM KRudd's old stomping ground. It has been unkindly rumoured (even in ALP circles do-do-do-do) that he was found in a shiny metal capsule in such a cane field back in the days when they used to burn off. That capsule metal has never been identified…
Third problem: It takes just 12 months to turn into a professional global warming alarmist? That's easy when you consider how we been subverted for decades..
Here are excerpts from a speech made by Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD, to a group of US communist students at Lenin University in 1953. This will explain exactly the motives behind Kader Asmal's treatise:??"Degradation and conquest are companions. To be conquered, a nation must be degraded ... degradation can be accomplished insidiously ... and effectively by consistent and continual defamation ... continued and constant degradation of national leaders, national institutions, national practices and national heroes must be systematically carries out.??"By attacking the character and morals ... by bringing about, through contamination of youth, a general degraded feeling, command of the populace is facilitated to a very marked degree. The attack on the mind of a nation involves changing loyalties, we must have a command of their values. In the animal, the first loyalty is to himself. This is destroyed by demonstrating to him ... showing that he does not remember, cannot act or does not trust himself. ??"The second loyalty is to his family unit ... this is destroyed by lessening the value of marriage, by making and easiness of divorce. The next loyalty is to his friends and local environment ... this is destroyed by lowering his trust. The next is to the state SNIP...too long. Bolt Moderators.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (05:01pm)
now if i want a heart bypass surgery i dont go to a journalist who reads selective quotes out of a medical journal i instead go to a surgeon who has spent a good part of his/her life learning about the human heart. Same goes with the environment and climate change.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (05:23pm)
Sun 19 Apr 09 (08:09pm)
I would like to know that the graduates of this course were educated in the rational that this is a course that takes the data, information and observational data. With that they return to Uni and do a course that will actually contribute to the growth of Australia, not the continuation of a myth and a lie.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (08:51pm)
If I want heart bypass surgery I go to a real cardiac surgeon who has done the hard yards at real universities and hospitals to obtain his skills and knowledge and prove his competence in them - not to some random alternative-health goon who did a TAFE certificate in homeopathy and healing with colours.
If I want a real environmentalist, I get one who's done a proper undergraduate science degree at a real university and a proper 2-3 year master's degree in science with a specialty in environment from a real university - not a kid with 12 months worth of shouting Global Warming slogans at strangers.
Sun 19 Apr 09 (09:44pm)
bnf these graduates aren't 'heart' surgeons not even close. 12-15 years of actual study and real world supervised experience trumps a few essays and two week intensives. Think of a better example.
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shallow, surface, skin-deep, artificial;
empty, hollow, meaningless
facile, shallow, flippant, empty-headed, trivial, frivolous, silly, inane
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Late Middle English: from late Latin superficialis, from Latin superficies (see superficies).
This is from Latin superficies 'surface', and was at first used in the literal sense. The word came to be applied to people meaning 'shallow' in the early 17th century (Shakespeare Measure for Measure: 'A very superficial, ignorant, unweighing fellow'). Surface (early 17th century) was a 16th-century French coinage based on the Latin.
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