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Skip to comments.Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
Posted on 05/18/2013 9:42:08 AM PDT by ducttape45
I got an interesting port on my Facebook page. Yes, I still have one that I use to keep up with friends and family, but it is quickly becoming very adversarial. I'll let the comments below speak for themselves.
Let me know what you think.
I have all my family, including all my in-laws on Facebook because I want to stay close to everyone while I'm far away. Please remember, when you're posting dozens of political articles on Facebook, that every member on Kayla's side of the family sees it, and we live in a world of many different opinions. It's very uncomfortable for me. The lack of moderation. I mentioned it before, you know as well as I, the old saying about keeping religion and politics on the hush around coworkers and extended family. Well it means even less nowadays, but the point still has merit. Please keep helping me maintain a courteous atmosphere. I like to see us all joke and stay fun, not getting edgy with clashing opinions flooding the news feed every day.
You know, Im reminded of the picture of the ostrich sticking his head in the sand. Come to find out that old adage is not true at all. According to Dr. Karl from the ABC Science website (http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2006/11/02/1777947.htm)
The ostrich is, now found only in parts of Africa, is the largest known bird. It stands up to 2.4 metres high and 155 kg in weight. Ostrich farmers are attracted to the durable ostrich leather, lovely saleable feathers, lean meat and extremely high feed-to-weight-gain ratio (3.5 to 1, much better than cattle at 6 to 1). If scared, the ostrich can run at up to 65 kph. Its kick is powerful enough to bend 10 mm steel rods into right angles, and can easily break a human leg. The ostrich uses its wings for balance (when running) and for courtship and display, when its not batting its thick black eyelashes.
Ostriches have three main strategies when attacked. They can run away, they can kick, or they can try to hide (eg, when nursing the eggs). When hiding, they will sometimes lay flat on the ground, with the long neck and head also on the ground. In the rippling heat haze of their native Africa, they can look just like a grassy mound.
There is one interesting ostrich behaviour that comes close to burying their head in the sand. When ostriches feed, they sometimes lay their head flat on the ground to swallow sand and pebbles. The hard grit helps them to grind their food in their crop. From a distance, the ostrich looks like its burying its head in the sand.
Hence, the myth about an ostrich sticking his head in the sand is just that, a myth. And just an ostrich doesnt stick his head in the sand when danger approaches, neither should we. You dont want me to post articles that have political or religious content because youre afraid of what relatives and family members will see and think. Youre afraid that they will probably be offended, and that politics and religion are two subjects that are best not broached. They are live hand grenades waiting to go off. Am I too far from the truth?
Yet, both topics are of the utmost importance in this day and age. Religion has become a joke, and politics has become an even bigger joke because of the unbridled corruption now taking place on Capitol Hill. Its bad enough that the current president has lied in every way imaginable and is the worst president ever to step foot in the White House (see article entitled The Worst President Ever, http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/55287) but the leaders within the so-called Christian community who are supposed to be warning us about the impending doom of the nation are totally silent, with the exception of just a few (Brannon Howse, John MacArthur, Usama Dakdok just to name a few). This is in direct opposition to Biblical teachings as found in Ezekiel 33, and is embodied in the Sadducees and Pharisees talked about in Jesus discourse found in Matthew 22:23 23:39. Jesus even went so far as to refer to those religious teachers in Matthew 23:33 in this way, Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? The words serpent and viper literally mean poisonous snake, and even allude to their allegiance with Satan.
Matthew, no matter what, I am duty bound to tell the truth about the current social, political and religious environment of the USA. Your future, and the future of every person I know and love, are at stake. With politicians purposely putting over 11,000,000 people out of work because of socialist policies, with religious leaders purposely putting untold billions into hell because they sold out to a more pleasing, non-confrontational teaching, and to elementary, junior high, high school, and university teachers tearing down the proud Judeo/Christian standards upon which this nation was built, the people we know and love are at a crossroads, and so is the nation. Do we continue to be non-confrontational on social interaction websites because we want everyone to be all lovey dovey, or do we try and steer them in the right direction, back towards truth, honor, integrity and lovingkindness yet all the while not compromising truth? I opt for the latter.
Look at what my brother Chris just said in response to one of my posts! Hes reveling in the fact that Obamas IRS is attacking conservative and Christian organizations while letting liberal organizations that believe in their agenda get off scot-free! Hes become what Lenin called a useful idiot, which is a derogatory term for people perceived as propagandists for a cause whose goals they do not understand, and who are used cynically by the leaders of the cause. (Hey, sometimes Wikipedia gets it right!)
Im going to close with this scripture from Galatians 4:1-16, "Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all; But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father. Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world: But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ. Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods. But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain. Brethren, I beseech you, be as I am; for I am as ye are: ye have not injured me at all. Ye know how through infirmity of the flesh I preached the gospel unto you at the first. And my temptation which was in my flesh ye despised not, nor rejected; but received me as an angel of God, even as Christ Jesus. Where is then the blessedness ye spake of? for I bear you record, that, if it had been possible, ye would have plucked out your own eyes, and have given them to me. Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
Ask yourself that question. Have I, your father who is very proud of you and Kayla, who loves you more than you could ever know, now become your enemy because I dare to speak the truth???
I cancelled my Facebook account three months ago for this reason. Facebook and Twitter have become liberal cesspools for angry people with too much time on their hands.
Politics on family Facebook feeds is horribly annoying - unless everyone is in agreement. If your family has widely differing views, maybe just use an email list for anything that's bound to cause family strife. Or have another account for politics. There is a time and a place for everything.
Ditch facebook. If you have to censor yourself it's just not worth it. The left certainly does NOT censor themselves on facebook or twitter or any other social media. They just want YOU to shut up.
I know for a fact if I turned lefty my dad would call the lawyers and disown me in a heartbeat. Why leave me stuff knowing i'd just use it against his beliefs? Makes no sense.
Speak the truth to your relatives, and you will lose them as friends. In their eyes, 0bamao can do no wrong. He is perfect. He is holy. To speak anything against him or any of his administration is blasphemy of the highest order. To reject 0bamao's handing the Medical Industry to the IRS and the unions is a sacrilege for which you shall be shunned, at the very least, and perhaps reported to the IRS by your own family and neighbors.
They will not listen.
They will never blame 0bamao, even if they are marched to stand in front of the long trenches for their mass executions. They will never get it. Many loyal Nazis and Communists died in exactly the same manner, believing in the Cause, right to the end, even though it was costing their very lives and the lives of their loved ones.
Always be yourself and speak the truth — some may learn from it and the ones who don't are beyond reach.
In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
I had a pretty intense set of discussions with a lot of folks on gun control legislation. What I did was made sure all the articles I posted were really factual, but not what the MSM was discussing. I would then add (with links) studies or specific legislative language and point out the real world problems with the proposed gun control legislation. Whenever I got left wing talking points, I would take the time to research them and respectively point out (with links for documentation) why those positions really didn't seem to hold water.
I also when out of my way to "like" and agree with some comments, say that I would like the objective of reduced gun violence, but that I could not support this legislation because off what it would do and because it would not reduce gun violence and the money required could be used elsewhere to make a difference in people's live.
Ultimately, I turned a couple of people's opinions around, I gave a lot of folks reasons to understand why some would object to a universal background check as a caring human being and not some evil "gun nut." I did have one friend "unfriend me."
In addition to adding facts to the conversation and going out of your way to like and complement people on good points, my suggestion is to make sure your Facebook comments are "balanced." For every heavy political articles have two article on science or medical breakthroughs that are interesting and important. Also have a couple of posts of things you are doing or pictures.
People look to Facebook not as a news-filter like Free Republic, but as social media, where they keep in touch with people who are important to them. They don't want to be lectured, but if they respect you, they do want to know what you think is important.
So the third key is balance. Good luck.
I would suggest in the interest of family leaving the last part out - besides, you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. Better to say that the IRS scandal is one example of exactly why so many conservatives want the scope of government power limited to the powers enumerated in the Constitution, and nothing else. Something like:
"Imagine President Sarah Palin or President Rand Paul using the IRS to attack those who oppose their values, starting right after the 2016 election. Those who react differently to that hypothetical than to the reality of Obama attacking conservatives, Jews, and those who are pro-life should consider whether the current situation might set an undesirable precedent, not to mention considering whether human rights should depend on whether the individual agrees with the views favored by the White House."
I got blocked on FB(by a 30 year family friend, no less) just for liking and commenting on conservative pages.
I still have face book but I know all the lib friends have blocked a long time ago. I've had so called friends and family drop me but I still keep posting my thoughts and news articles. Screw them, I won't back down.
I have never used Facebook, so I'm unfamiliar with how it works. Generally speaking, however, I would continuing speaking the truth, but I'm just that way.
A man like Obama could not be president, indeed a party like the modern Democratic party could not even exist, if we, as a individual citizens of this nation, were faithful to the Scriptures. And, as much as I hate to say it, were we faithful as a people, the GOP would not look much like it does either. At the root of every one of the issues that have so divided our country is sin and theological rot, so I stand up for biblical truth. I am circumspect about my approach, but I will never cower and pretend all is okay when I know it's not. I'm sure not going to pretend to support a man like Obama (or even Mitt Romney). For the sake of family harmony I am unwilling to pretend to support the agendas of wicked men.
Thankfully, my immediate family believe as I believe. They are born-again Christians who share my worldview, or that of Brannon Howse and John MacArthur. But we have relatives involved in post-Christian mainline denominations and even cults. It's not surprising that they have been sucked in to the things of this world and the systems of this world. They are easily duped by politicians and media. Their way of thinking is a product of their lostness. Romans 1 speaks of men who deny God until they are given over to a reprobate mind. I know many like that, unfortunately it appears some are in my extended family. I pity them and I will never stop telling them the truth just to make them comfortable in their sin, in their lostness. I won't pretend everything is fine. I just can't. Often silence is an indication of tacit agreement. And feigned agreement is a lie. I have worked hard on telling hard truths with tact and grace—I've got a long way to go.
I'm reminded of what the Apostle Paul said to the Ephesian elders. He told them that he had held nothing profitable from them and that "I am innocent of the blood of all men." I can't influence all men, but I can sure speak to those in my family, the people I love, so I speak up, even when they don't like it. In the end I would rather be divided by the truth than united by lies.
I can't tell which part of this is your son's and which part is yours. If it is your FB page, say what you have to say, and let others take it or leave it. But remember that someday they may change their minds about the Won. Make sure you give them the space to do that, both for their sake and for yours.
Whenever Rush gets a "conversion" call, he always says "Welcome to the family." For you it might be "welcome back" or, better, "were you gone?" Just don't close the door.
Will they understand scripture used in your response? If not, then perhaps tuning it with words that mean the same but understandable to the ignorant.
Yes, tell them the truth, it will be best in the long run. After the word wounds heal, they may learn something or spark something in their souls that has been laying dormant for years.
I post a lot of stuff on my page and I get complaints. I just keep doing it.
My guess is that when your son and family begin to read your long message, it will be like the Peanuts characters hearing wanh, wanh, wanh when adults speak to them. I'm a truth teller, and I am direct, but sometimes it becomes counterproductive. What is the point, if the result is throwing more bricks on the ever-widening wall between you?
I suggest a change of strategy. Be a pragmatist. Do what works. Surprise them with brevity and a change of tone. It will be an act of respect for your son. I believe he poured his heart out to you as an act of love. He wants balance between you and his wife and her family. If forced to choose, he will choose her.
Meanwhile, continue your study of issues, and be prepared with verifiable facts when a "teachable moment" arises with your son, preferably in person. Listen, then teach. He's beyond the point where a lecture works, if it ever did.
Short and sweet is best in such a situation in my experience. Tell him you love him and nothing will ever change that, but he has to know that you politely disagree with the political postings, and likely many other family member do, too. Maybe the overtly political stuff could be routed through a different channel and you'll agree to do the same?
So he is essentially saying "I love the thought of the one dimensional you - the one I can imagine to please meself. The real you is an affront to me. Please keep you beliefs and opinions to yourself."
Why all the drama and hand wringing? Its your page, post what you want. If others don't like it, they can block you. Anyone who tries to pick fights or "gets offended" is just being a bully pure and simple. Best way to deal is just stand up to them. No sense in crying because the "unfriended" you, they weren't your friend to start! My friends post all kinds of crap, but it doesn't bother me, I just keep scrolling. Anyone who can't manage that doesn't need to be on facebook, or be your "friend". Tell your kid to grow some balls and stand up to lib bullies. If its hard now on facebook, it's not going to get any easier.
I've been tempted to do the same. Matter of fact I did once, but my kids pleaded with me not to and I reactivated it. Now it's back as an option. Still debating it.
That's pretty much what has happened. My daughter says I shouldn't post my conservative views on FB, but when I asked her not to post her leftist views she well all apeshQt and told me I had to no right to ask her to do that. Now my youngest son wants me to stop posting news articles that paint the current occupier in chief in a bad light because he's afraid it will alienate me from his wife's side of the family.
So far that's two votes in favor of ditching FB. Let's see what else folks have to say.....
How old are they and did they go to public school?
And, for the record, I've told my parents that IF they have anything they leave to me to leave it to a missionary organization instead. No one should be in the least 'happy' or 'rewarded' when a parent passes on.
Sounds like a certain world leader who is soon to come on the scene, just as it did with Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Chaves, and others.
So, FB or no FB. What do you think? So far the tally is 2 to dump, 0 to keep, 1 undecided. Let me know what you think.
I always am, and that's part of what drives them crazy. Do I stay on FB or dump it?
Ain't it the truth!
All my kids went to public school, but my youngest son lived with me alone while he did so. He was influenced by my conservative views and has told me on occasion that my values closely mirror his own, however, that being said he's been influenced by liberals now for the past few years and is "ashamed" of me when I bring out the errors in "The One," so much so that I think perhaps he's getting harassed by his wife's side of the family for my views.
I kind of figured they were that way but I didn't think they would stoop so low as to badger my son because of me. I guess I shouldn't expect any less of liberals huh?
Ever notice foreigners and younger adults write about the same broken English? We can usually excuse the foreigners because they speak their native tongue very well, but our kids are unable to write like they passed the first grade.
Liberal == cult.
Do NOT point out the emperor is naked.
Marrying someone liberal is a biiiiiig mistake. I've seen it in some of my friends. There is no go along to get along with these people. Any dissent is squashed rapidly. Based on my experience I'd bet your son voted for the won. Or just told his wife/her family he did for the sake of peace and quiet.
He will either convert to liberalism entirely or she will convert to conservative. Else they'll eventually divorce. That's been my experience. Based on his being ashamed of your views my guess is he's either converted or currently in the process of converting.
I have a simple rule for Facebook.
On my page I am king.
Politics is welcome, including dissenting opinion, including liberals, because the battle of logic with different opinions can be fun and educational,,,
If anyone, and I mean anyone including family, is disrespectful, calls names, or just pisses me off they are gone, and I mean defriended, and I don't let anyone back once gone, but I suppose if they honestly apologized and proved to change their ways I might reconsider.
Logical non emotional factual argument can be a good thing even if you disagree, but most of the time that criteria favors the conservative.
But, I do think it's time to put the kibosh on Facebook. Way I see it, if my youngest two are that ashamed of me and my views then it's time to make a statement; you accept me, and my viewpoints, or you get none of me on Facebook.
And besides, I got better things to do with my time. Finishing creating that website I'm working on is a good place to start.
Thanks gang.
> Sounds like a certain world leader who is soon to come on
> the scene, just as it did with Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Chaves,
> and others.
I don't think 0bamao is the anti-Christ. He's just another trial balloon, like the other tyrants you named.
My advice would be to keep it off facebook. For a number of reasons.
The best way to deal with this is, when you find an opportunity, say with all seriousness that history shows the bigger a government gets, the more abusive it becomes to the citizenry, doesn't matter whether the government is "right" or "left", and end the discussion right there.
I like to quote George Washington:
"Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a dangerous servant and a fearsome master."
Personally, I pick my fights carefully.
Leave it off FB. Send it in private message, a letter or a phone call. Nothing worse than airing family laundry on FB. I know because my SIL likes to stir the pot and call out other family members. It's embarrassing and cringe worthy.
When sports and even the weather have been politicized it's hard to avoid broaching some political topic somehow, unless you just stop conversing altogether. That has taken the pleasure out of casual conversation with many people, a change for the worse over the past several decades.
I ditched Facebook months ago and haven't missed it at all. All our relatives and friends know our phones numbers and email addresses. I think FB is a HUGE waste of time and an even BIGGER security risk these days.
My presctription for all of this (although I am not a doctor of anything} is TOLERANCE and the CELEBRATION OF DIVERSITY.
Who needs these kinds of hassles?
No, no and no.
Facebook is one of the worst things created. We had two nasty run in with relatives over very simple little matters. One is just starting to talk to us again after several years. The other is beyond repair. Though my wife doesn't talk to them, she is afraid to "Unfriend" them as it might further damage the relationship.
The way I feel, is if someone can't even send me a "personal email" or pick up the phone for a chat now and then, how much are they really interested in "staying close" and personal? Are they so busy that you find yourself on line number 35 on their contact list?
Tell your son that you've created a new will and are leaving your money to the church. See how fast you'll get that phone call.
I have a pretty empty fb and I use it to tutt tutt and admire babies. Keep tabs on my children. I have email groups to diseminate information.
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The Cloud's Open Source Seeds Are Growing Strong
August 4, 2015
Open source seeded the cloud, 451 Research found five years ago -- and those seeds have grown. Open source now plays an even more prevalant and important role -- not only in cloud computing, but also in other, related areas, such as big data, DevOps and application containers. One can consider any layer of cloud computing -- Infrastructure as a Service, for example -- and see the impact.
US House Opens Up to Open Source
July 31, 2015
Providers of open source software recently found another market: the 435 members of the U.S. House of Representatives. That market easily will grow to many thousands of potential open source users when the staffs of representatives and House committees are added to the total. Certain procurement restrictions that had constrained the use of open source technology in the House have been clarified.

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While Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu continues his whinging campaign that the West capitulated on a non-existent earlier demand for "any time, anywhere" snap inspections in Iran under the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action negotiated by the P5+1 group of nations with Iran on its nuclear activities, Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif has come forward with a proposal that brilliantly turns the tables on Israel. Writing in the Guardian, Zarif calls on Israel to join in a plan to remove all weapons of mass destruction from the Middle East. Such a plan, of course, would require Israel to give up its poorly-held secret of an arsenal of their own nuclear weapons:
We – Iran and its interlocutors in the group of nations known as the P5+1 – have finally achieved the shared objective of turning the Iranian nuclear programme from an unnecessary crisis into a platform for cooperation on nuclear non-proliferation and beyond. The nuclear deal reached in Vienna this month is not a ceiling but a solid foundation on which we must build. The joint comprehensive plan of action, as the accord is officially known, cements Iran's status as a zone free of nuclear weapons. Now it is high time that we expand that zone to encompass the entire Middle East.
Also in the Guardian, Julian Borger provides some perspective on Zarif's proposal:
Israel does not officially confirm its nuclear arsenal, but it is believed to have about 80 warheads. Zarif's remarks also represent a rebuke to the five permanent members of the UN security council, all armed with nuclear weapons – the US, Russia, France, the UK and China – as well as the three other nuclear-armed states which, like Israel, are not NPT signatories: India, Pakistan, and North Korea.
Since a cold war high in 1986, when global stockpiles of nuclear warheads topped 65,000, the main weapons states have reduced their arsenals considerably. There are now thought to be fewer than 16,000 warheads worldwide, of which 14,700 are held – roughly equally – by the US and Russia. But the disarmament is now approaching a standstill. The Obama administration wanted to follow the 2010 New Start agreement with another, more ambitious, arms control treaty, but the dramatic worsening in relations halted progress. Russia and the US are modernising their nuclear arsenals.
That last bit about the US and Russia modernizing weapons rather than removing them is especially upsetting, but for now I'd like to concentrate on Zarif's Middle East proposal. Insterestingly, Zarif points to Iran's history of restraint on weapons of mass destruction when it came to the Iran-Iraq war. While widespread use of chemical weapons by Iraq in that war is indisputable, Zarif claims that Iran "never reciprocated in kind". The record seems to bear that out. While Iran did develop their own chemical weapons program late in the war, the evidence that they ever used it is murky at best.
Zarif correctly depicts Israel as openly flaunting the nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty while at the same time noting how ironic that position is considering Israel's rabid attitude towards Iran's nuclear program:
One of the many ironies of history is that non-nuclear-weapon states, like Iran, have actually done far more for the cause of non-proliferation in practice than nuclear-weapon states have done on paper. Iran and other nuclear have-nots have genuinely "walked the walk" in seeking to consolidate the non-proliferation regime. Meanwhile, states actually possessing these destructive weapons have hardly even "talked the talk", while completely brushing off their disarmament obligations under the non-proliferation treaty (NPT) and customary international law.
That is to say nothing of countries outside the NPT, or Israel, with an undeclared nuclear arsenal and a declared disdain towards non-proliferation, notwithstanding its absurd and alarmist campaign against the Iranian nuclear deal.
Borger gives us a concise summary of Zarif's proposal:
Zarif makes three proposals: for negotiations to begin on a nuclear weapons elimination treaty; that this should lead initially to nuclear arsenals being taken off high alert readiness (for example, by removing warheads from missiles); and for the creation of a zone in the Middle East free of weapons of mass destruction.
Again, the irony of Israel's actions are brought into full light here. Another front on which Israel has been vocal regarding the JCPOA relates to restrictions on Iran's missile program. At the same time Israel wants to severely restrict any further development of missiles in Iran, Israel has an arsenal of missiles already fitted with nuclear warheads and ready for launch.
But there is one more point that Zarif puts into his piece that I can't stop marveling at. In his description of how negotiations on his plan could start, we have this:
One step in the right direction would be to start negotiations for a weapons elimination treaty, backed by a robust monitoring and compliance-verification mechanism.
What better spokesman could the world have for a "robust monitoring and compliance-verification mechanism" than the man who just agreed to submit his own country to history's most intrusive inspections program for a country that hasn't just been defeated in a war. He is definitely "walking the walk" when it comes to inspections and compliance. But I can't help wondering if, should such negotiations actually get underway (note: yes, I realize that the chances are much less than zero), Zarif would allow himself, at least once, to call for Israel to submit to "any time, anywhere" inspections of its nuclear program.
In a blockbuster story published last night by the New York Times, C.J. Shivers lays out chapter and verse on the despicable way the US military covered up the discovery of chemical weapons in Iraq after the 2003 invasion. Even worse is the cover-up of injuries sustained by US troops from those weapons, their denial of treatment and denial of recognition or their injuries sustained on the battlefront.
Why was this covered up, you might ask? After all, if George W. Bush would joke at the White House Correspondents' Dinner about looking under White House furniture for Saddam's WMD's, why didn't the US blast out the news of the WMD's that had supposedly prompted the US invasion?
The answer is simple. The chemical weapons that were found did not date to the time frame when the US was accusing Saddam of "illegally" producing them. Instead, they were old chemical weapons that dated from the time Saddam was our friend. They come from the time when the US sent Donald Rumsfeld to shake Saddam's hand and to grease the skids for Iraq to get chemical weapons to use in their war against Iran.
Chivers give us the details:
From 2004 to 2011, American and American-trained Iraqi troops repeatedly encountered, and on at least six occasions were wounded by, chemical weapons remaining from years earlier in Saddam Hussein's rule.
In all, American troops secretly reported finding roughly 5,000 chemical warheads, shells or aviation bombs, according to interviews with dozens of participants, Iraqi and American officials, and heavily redacted intelligence documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act.
The New York Times found 17 American service members and seven Iraqi police officers who were exposed to nerve or mustard agents after 2003. American officials said that the actual tally of exposed troops was slightly higher, but that the government's official count was classified.
Then, during the long occupation, American troops began encountering old chemical munitions in hidden caches and roadside bombs. Typically 155-millimeter artillery shells or 122-millimeter rockets, they were remnants of an arms program Iraq had rushed into production in the 1980s during the Iran-Iraq war.
All had been manufactured before 1991, participants said. Filthy, rusty or corroded, a large fraction of them could not be readily identified as chemical weapons at all. Some were empty, though many of them still contained potent mustard agent or residual sarin. Most could not have been used as designed, and when they ruptured dispersed the chemical agents over a limited area, according to those who collected the majority of them.
But here is the real kicker:
Participants in the chemical weapons discoveries said the United States suppressed knowledge of finds for multiple reasons, including that the government bristled at further acknowledgment it had been wrong. "They needed something to say that after Sept. 11 Saddam used chemical rounds," Mr. Lampier said. "And all of this was from the pre-1991 era."
Others pointed to another embarrassment. In five of six incidents in which troops were wounded by chemical agents, the munitions appeared to have been designed in the United States, manufactured in Europe and filled in chemical agent production lines built in Iraq by Western companies.
Good old USA technology, conveniently exported to European firms that we helped to build factories in Iraq to produce chemical weapons to be used against Iran. That is what caused injury to US servicemen who were routinely denied care and quickly sent back into battle because they weren't missing limbs. Chivers talked to a number of those soldiers and their stories are so consistent they nearly blend together. Also consistent was the instant classification of the injuries, presumably because of the embarrassment to the Bush Administration they would cause should the press look into them too rigorously.
Sadly, though, the story is not yet over. The US left Iraq in 2011, knowing that chemical weapons were still stored in bunkers at Al Muthanna. At the end of Chivers' report: Continue reading
As militarized local police riot in Ferguson, Missouri, Iraq continues its meltdown and Afghanistan can't even agree on how to recount votes, the world has been overdue for the tiniest morsel of good news. Good news is what we got yesterday out of the situation regarding the destruction of chemical weapons-related materials from Syria:
The United States said Monday that it had completed the destruction of the deadliest chemical weapons in Syria's arsenal, a rare foreign policy achievement for President Obama at a time when the Middle East is embroiled in violence and political turmoil.
On Monday, Mr. Obama said that the destruction of the weapons, several weeks ahead of schedule, "advances our collective goal to ensure that the Assad regime cannot use its chemical arsenal against the Syrian people and sends a clear message that the use of these abhorrent weapons has consequences and will not be tolerated by the international community."
The Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons provided more details in a press release from their Director-General, Ahmet Üzümcü:
The Cape Ray's consignment included the most dangerous chemicals in Syria's arsenal: 581 metric tonnes of DF [methylphosphonyl difluoride], a binary precursor for sarin gas, and 19.8 metric tonnes of ready-to-use sulfur mustard (HD). They were neutralised with two Field Deployable Hydrolysis Systems (FDHS) on the Cape Ray, which reduced their toxicity by 99.9 percent in line with the requirements of the Chemical Weapons Convention.
Furthermore, the operation was successfully completed weeks ahead of the 60-day schedule the U.S. had estimated would be needed, and OPCW inspectors aboard the ship verified that no chemicals of any kind escaped into the sea or otherwise impacted the environment. The Cape Ray will now transport the effluent from the hydrolysis operations to Finland and Germany, where it will be offloaded for disposal at land-based facilities.
Recall that the initial US response to the chemical weapons attacks of August, 2013 in Syria was supposed to be missile strikes and a ramping up of support for "moderate" rebels fighting Assad. But John Kerry achieved some accidental diplomacy and Assad agreed to hand over his chemical arsenal for destruction. Since then, war hawks have been castigating Obama for the very low level of support for Syrian rebels despite the fact that US air strikes in Iraq are now aimed at destroying major weaponry that the US provided to Iraq's army before it melted away in the face of opposition.
There now is substantial evidence to support the decision not to provide increased support for the moderates, as many of these moderate groups have now shifted their alliance directly into IS support. This terrific Monkey Cage blog post written by Marc Lynch and hosted at the Washington Post, provides very good background on the shifting alliances among the rebel groups: Continue reading
Yesterday, the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons noted another delivery of materials by Syria under the agreement calling for Syrian chemical weapons-related materials to be destroyed. Tuesday's delivery took the current totals to 86.5% of all materials to be removed and 88.7% of the Priority 1, or most dangerous, chemicals. That leaves only "two or three" more deliveries to complete removal of all of the materials that Syria declared under the agreement and appears to have Syria on track to meet the current goal of all materials being removed later this month and destroyed by the end of June.
But, because this is Syria, significant controversy continues to swirl. The latest issue centers on the likely use of chlorine gas. That chlorine has been used seems fairly certain, but each side in the conflict accuses the other of being the perpetrator. It should be noted from the outset that chlorine is a widely used material with many peaceful uses and is not covered by the agreement under which Syria gave up its chemical weapons. It was used by Germany in WWI, but more effective chemical agents have since taken its place.
One central question on whether it is Assad's forces who used the chlorine hinges on whether it can be shown that the gas was released from helicopters or airplanes, since the rebel forces have no air capabilities. Numerous news outlets quote anonymous US officials suggesting that chlorine has been delivered by aircraft, but no proof has been offered (nor has Syria provided proof that the rebels are responsible for the chlorine).
Today's New York Times article is typical of the anonymous accusations against Syria:
Nearly 90 percent of the chemicals in Syria's arsenal have now been exported and only a few shipments remain, international monitors reported Tuesday, but the progress was overshadowed by growing concerns that the Syrian military may be dropping bombs filled with chlorine, a common industrial compound not on the list of prohibited poisons.
Disarmament experts said that if the unconfirmed reports that Syrian warplanes and helicopters have been using chlorine-filled bombs in the civil war were true, that would be a violation of the Chemical Weapons Convention treaty signed by Syria last year and could constitute a war crime.
But CNN went much further in the accusations against Syria on Monday:
The Obama administration and its allies believe the Syrian government may have used chlorine gas in a deadly attack this month on its own people, several U.S. officials and other diplomats told CNN.
The alleged assault that killed at least two and affected dozens of others occurred in the village of Kafr Zeita, a rebel-held area.
While there is no firm proof as the matter is being looked into, several U.S. officials and Western diplomats say the United States believes the regime of Bashar al-Assad is responsible because it has such chemicals and the means to deliver them.
"Our assessment is it is, at a minimum, concentrated chlorine dropped from helicopters," a U.S. official said. "That could only be the regime."
The official did not speak for full attribution.
As usual for accusations in Syria, attention is turning to video posted to YouTube. Today, one focus is on a chlorine canister attached to a detonator. The chlorine canister appears to have come from China: Continue reading
Yesterday, in describing how Russia has played the US media regarding "threats" to the P5+1 negotiations on Iran's nuclear technology, I mentioned that continued progress on Syria's removal of its chemical weapons-related materials was further evidence that Russia intends to cooperate on the Iranian and Syrian nonproliferation issues separately from disputes over the Crimea annexation. Today, with news out that removal of the CW-related materials from Syria has crossed the 50% level, Russia has praised that accomplishment while pointing out that Syria now has virtually no capability of using chemical arms. Oh, and if we need any further confirmation that Russia is ready for the recriminations over Crimea to end, Putin himself has now said that there is no further need for retaliation against US sanctions (although I'm guessing that Dana Rohrabacher is in mourning that he wasn't included in the list of ten US figures sanctioned by Russia since he even played dress-up and "fought" against the Soviets in Afghanistan).
A press release put out by the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons yesterday put the removal of materials from Syria at just under 50%:
The OPCW-UN Joint Mission has verified the delivery of another consignment of Priority 1 chemicals today to Latakia and their removal from the port on a cargo ship, raising the amount of Syrian chemicals that are now out of the country to nearly half of the total stockpile.
The confirmation came on the heels of an announcement late yesterday by the Joint Mission of two other consignments of chemicals that were delivered to Latakia and removed during the past week. A total of 11 consignments of chemicals have now been transported out of Syria for destruction outside the country. The updated cumulative figures are as follow:
Priority 1 chemicals removed: 34.8 %*
Priority 2 chemicals removed: 82.6 %
Total chemicals removed: 49.3 %
* Includes all sulfur mustard, the only unitary chemical warfare agent in Syria's arsenal
But the UN has slightly different figures, putting the removal over 50%:
More than half of Syria's declared chemical weapons arsenal has been shipped out or destroyed within the country, the head of the international team overseeing the disarmament process said on Thursday.
Sigrid Kaag, head of the joint mission of the United Nations and Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), said 54 percent of the toxins had been removed or eliminated.
The process, which President Bashar al-Assad's government agreed to after a chemical attack killed hundreds of people around Damascus last year, is months behind schedule but Kaag said the new momentum "would allow for timely completion".
"The joint mission welcomes the momentum attained and encourages the Syrian Arab Republic to sustain the current pace," Kaag said in a statement.
Russia welcomed this news and added that Syria now has almost no capability of carrying out an attack with chemical weapons:
The Syrian government has reduced its chemical weapons potential close to zero, state-run RIA news agency quoted an unnamed official at the Russian Foreign Ministry as saying on Friday.
"Chemical weapons production facilities, equipment for mixing (chemicals) and operating (the weapons), as well as the means of their delivery have been destroyed," the official said, adding that the only gas that had been ready for use in weaponry had been completely removed from the country.
"At the moment, Damascus has de facto reduced its military chemical weapons potential to almost zero."
Sadly, those who relish a restart of the Cold War are unlikely to stop now, so we are left to wonder what Putin will do in response if the US (especially Congressional meddlers) takes further steps claimed to be in response to the annexation of Crimea. Putin's statement today that he sees no need for further retaliation can be viewed as reining back in the "threat" delivered by Ryobkov after the P5+1 negotiations ended Wednesday. Further action by the US, though, could end Russian cooperation in both the P5+1 process and the Syrian CW situation, seriously hurting current nonproliferation efforts.
It is my hope that Cold War fans will restrict their threats against Russia to the realm of what would happen should Putin try to grab more territory beyond Crimea.
Back at the end of January, I noted that Syria was being castigated for delays in removing its chemical weapon precursors when the US had not been blamed for delays in making the Cape Ray available for destruction of the chemicals to proceed. Although there were still slight delays after the Cape Ray appeared in the region, we are now seeing from the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons that the original deadline of all the chemicals being destroyed by the end of June can still be met. Even more encouraging, the pace of removal of chemicals from Syria has picked up significantly and now more than a third of the material will have been removed by the end of this week.
From a press release today by OPCW:
The Syrian Arab Republic has submitted to the OPCW a revised proposal that aims to complete the removal of all chemicals from Syria before the end of April 2014.
The OPCW-UN Joint Mission also verified that two more consignments of chemicals have left the port of Latakia, including a quantity of mustard gas – a Priority 1 chemical – which was previously reported last Wednesday. Another movement, a significant consignment of other Priority 1 chemicals, is scheduled to arrive in Latakia during this week, which will bring the total number of movements thus far to six.
The six movements represent more than 35% of all chemicals that must be removed from Syria for destruction, including 23% of Priority 1 chemicals and 63% of Priority 2 chemicals. In addition, the OPCW has verified that Syria has destroyed in situ more than 93% of its stock of isopropanol.
It would have been a bit more encouraging if all of the Priority 1 materials were removed first, since they present the biggest risk. It is not clear whether the shipment of a higher percentage of the Priority 2 material than Priority 1 was due to Syria withholding more dangerous material intentionally or if it was a result of logistics being dictated by where the materials were stored relative to where fighting in the ongoing civil war was taking place. In that regard, it is worth noting that Syria reported last week that there were two attempted attacks on convoys transporting the materials in late January. Although the Reuters report does not expressly state as much, we are left to assume that the attacks were unsuccessful since they were reported as merely being attempted. This same report also noted that two staging sites for the chemicals could not be accessed during the reporting period due to fighting in the area.
Returning to the OPCW press release from today, this bit at the end cannot be emphasized enough: Continue reading
The last time I checked in on Syria, there was much consternation over the delays in getting Syria's chemical weapons precursors sent to the staging area in Latakia so that they can be moved on to the next steps in the process that will eventually result in destruction of the chemicals at sea aboard the Cape Ray. I had noted that stories covering the delay had put all of the blame on Syria for not moving the chemicals (even though they were said already to be at "marshaling" spots) while ignoring that the US was over a month late in making the Cape Ray ready. There has now been a third batch of chemicals sent to Latakia by Syria, but the amount shipped represents a small fraction of the materials to be removed. Despite this, Syria still maintains that the the June deadline for full destruction of the materials will be met.
Going further back, recall that back in September, we were hearing about how wonderful General Salim Idriss is. We were told that he was a moderate (well, that is if we ignore the fellow from his forces who eat hearts of dead foes) and that he had a foolproof plan for maintaining control of arms we shipped to him. It turns out that Idriss wasn't much of a leader after all. Idriss now has been removed:
The sudden replacement of the Free Syrian Army commander is the strongest sign yet that the rebel group is restructuring to address concerns of its Western backers that it fight both the regime and extremist opposition factions.
Gen. Salim Idriss, the public face of the FSA for the past 14 months, leaves ahead of an expected delivery of new and more sophisticated weapons from Gulf Arab states to rebels aligned with his group.
Complaints against Gen. Idriss have been mounting for some time. His critics said his forces were ineffective and he was too slow to deliver weapons to fighters.
It's all about the weapons when it comes to "aid" for the Syrian rebels. And Idriss' control of those weapons? How about this in The Guardian's coverage of Idriss' sacking:
The Islamic Front recently seized weapons warehouses from the FSA.
Gosh, I sure hope Idriss got the Islmaic Front to give him a handwritten receipt for those weapons.
But did you notice that bit in the quote above from the Wall Street Journal article, where we learn that Idriss' removal comes "ahead of an expected delivery of new and more sophisticated weapons from Gulf Arab states"? Iran explains to us in a Fars News article that this really means the weapons will come from Saudi Arabia: Continue reading
Yesterday, Reuters granted anonymity to "sources", including two who are each identified as "a senior Western diplomat", to blame Syria for delays in shipping its chemical weapons-related materials out of the country. Only when we get to the very last paragraph of the article, though, do we get to the fact that these chemicals are to be destroyed aboard the Cape Ray, a ship which the US has outfitted with equipment for destroying the chemicals at sea. The article does note that the Cape Ray is now in transit to the region, but it fails to note that even though the original plan was for the Cape Ray to begin its work by the end of December, the ship did not leave the US until January 27. Allowing for transit time to get to the region, it would appear that the US delay in supplying the Cape Ray can account for the bulk of the 6-8 weeks by which Syria is reported to be behind schedule.
The anonymous smears hit paydirt, prompting Laura Rozen to wonder whether the delay would force the US into taking "kinetic action". Fortunately, Cheryl Rofer saw through the ruse immediately, calling out the reliance on anonymous diplomats and cautioning that the situation falls far short of anything requiring such a response.
Before getting to the accusations transcribed by Reuters, it is important to go back to what we knew in early December when the plan for destroying the chemicals at sea was first announced. In my post about that development, I had this quote from a BBC article:
It is believed that the chemicals, all but 30 tonnes of which take the form of precursors – two or more of which have to be mixed to create the lethal agents – have been gathered in several marshalling areas by the Syrian army and amount to more than 600 tonnes. The other 30 tonnes consist of mustard gas.
This is very important context that is entirely lacking in the Reuters article: by early December, we knew that Syria had already gathered the key materials into "marshalling areas" where they were being held prior to destruction. Also missing from the Reuters report is that back in early November, Syria completed destroying all of the equipment that can be used for mixing binary chemical weapon agents and loading them into shells for firing. Note, too, that only about 30 tons of the material is intact active chemical agent rather than materials that have to be mixed to produce the agents.
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After the debacle of floating prisons used for interrogation that included torture, the US now is set to embark on a more noble mission at sea. Hundreds of tons of precursors to chemical weapons being surrendered by Syria will now be destroyed at sea, in part because no nation would agree to being the site for destruction of the chemicals.
Sadly, part of the reasoning behind the refusal to house the destruction can be seen in today's press coverage of the announcement of destruction at sea. Headlines at the Washington Post, BBC, Los Angeles Times and ABC (this is just a quick representative sample, there are many others) all contain some variation on "US to Destroy Syrian Chemical Weapons at Sea". However, if we read further, we find this tidbit buried in the BBC story:
It is believed that the chemicals, all but 30 tonnes of which take the form of precursors – two or more of which have to be mixed to create the lethal agents – have been gathered in several marshalling areas by the Syrian army and amount to more than 600 tonnes. The other 30 tonnes consist of mustard gas.
The headlines would have us believe that it is intact nerve agents such as sarin that are being destroyed in this process. The reality is that by the numbers cited here by BBC, more than 95% of the material is precursor material where at least two different components must first be mixed together to produce the active nerve agent. Only the 30 tons of mustard gas included in the overall collection of over 600 tons of material requires no processing to be a recognized chemical weapon. It would seem likely that nations have bowed out of serving as sites for destruction of the material because their citizens believe, based on sloppy reporting in the press, that the material to be destroyed is 100% active nerve agent.
The original announcement that the US would destroy the precursors was made by OPCW on November 30:
In a statement to the OPCW Executive Council on Friday 29 November 2013, Director-General Ahmet Üzümcü announced that the United States has offered to contribute a destruction technology, full operational support and financing to neutralise Syria's priority chemicals, which are to be removed from the country by 31 December.
The Director-General stated that the neutralisation operations will be conducted on a U.S. vessel at sea using hydrolysis. Currently a suitable naval vessel is undergoing modifications to support the operations and to accommodate verification activities by the OPCW.
Joby Warrick reports in his article in the Post that an unidentified country has stepped up to gather the materials from a Syrian port and hand them off to the US ship when it is ready: Continue reading
Just a few short months ago, speculation regarding a US attack on Syria centered only around when the attack would take place, how large it would be and how long bombardment would continue. But then accidental diplomacy broke out and it appears to be moving along remarkably well. Last week, the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons certified that Syria has complied with the first stage of its giving up chemical weapons:
The Joint Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons – United Nations Mission confirmed today that the government of the Syrian Arab Republic has completed the functional destruction of critical equipment for all of its declared chemical weapons production facilities and mixing/filling plants, rendering them inoperable.
By doing so, Syria has met the deadline set by the OPCW Executive Council* to "complete as soon as possible and in any case not later than 1 November 2013, the destruction of chemical weapons production and mixing/filling equipment."
On a separate front, Iran's Foreign Minister announced yesterday that he feels an agreement on Iran's nuclear technology could be reached as early as this week:
Two days before negotiations resume in Geneva between Iran and the United States and other Western powers aimed at ending a fight over the disputed Iranian nuclear program, the country's foreign minister sounded an optimistic note on Tuesday, saying a deal was possible as soon as this week.
"I believe it is even possible to reach that agreement this week," Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif said in an interview with France 24, a major television network here, before meeting with the French foreign minister, Laurent Fabius.
It is possible that these two diplomatic breakthroughs have provided cover for an even bigger diplomatic effort. An initiative had grown out of the 2010 Nuclear Nonproliferation Review Conference to work toward an agreement banning all weapons of mass destruction in the Middle East. A conference based on the initiative had been planned for last year, but the United States announced it had been delayed just before it was scheduled to begin.
A planning meeting for the formal conference was held October 21-22 in Switzerland. The Nuclear Threat Initiative outlined a number of issues that were to be addressed a few weeks before that meeting:
A United Nations-appointed diplomat on Tuesday said he will convene multinational consultations in Switzerland later this month as a potentially key step toward discussing an eventual ban on weapons of mass destruction in the Middle East.
If nations in the region can agree on the terms and objectives of regional discussions, a formal conference on creating a Mideast WMD-free zone could occur in Helsinki, Finland, as early as mid-December, according to international diplomats and expert observers.
Jaakko Laajava, a Finnish envoy who serves as facilitator for the prospective talks, played down continued differences between Israel and its Arab neighbors over the necessity of this month's multilateral planning session, which is to take place in Glion, a lakeside retreat roughly 60 miles northeast of Geneva.
Yes, you read that correctly. Even though Israel was not a participant in the 2010 conference that created this initiative, Israel now is suddenly a party to the discussions. Of course, the region faces a multitude of WMD issues and especially non-compliance issues for agreements already reached: Continue reading


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Vancouver City Council Votes to Erase Last Vestiges of Freeway System
Vancouver is famous for not having any freeways within the central city. But highway building got underway before public opposition quashed the freeway system in the early 1970s, and a couple of fragments of the old freeway structure have remained in the form of two short elevated roads.
Not for long, however.
CBC Canada reports that the Vancouver City Council voted yesterday to remove the Georgia and Dunsmuir viaducts. The city plans to add 13 acres of parks on the newly available space. Two city blocks will also be preserved for housing, including 300 below-market units.
The viaducts will be replaced by a four-lane, at-grade road. Planners estimate converting the viaducts to surface street will add about one to three minutes to motor vehicle trips. It would have cost $50 to $65 million to upgrade the viaducts to make them safe in case of an earthquake.
Tearing down the viaducts will cost about $200 million. But Business Vancouver reports the city expects to come out ahead when all is said and done:


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Spicy Jamaican Meat Pies With Island Salsa
Total Time
Prep 15 mins
Cook 35 mins
Ground beef wrapped in crescents gets all spiced up, Jamaican style. Found this on the Pillsbury site recipe by Diane Joyce Phillips from Va. in the 2002 bake-off. We have them a lot down here and I like this crust better - no lard ! This is my first recipe I am at your mercy !
Ingredients Nutrition
- 1 lb lean ground beef
- 1⁄2 cup chopped onion
- 1 jalapeno chile, minced
- 2 garlic cloves, minced
- 4 teaspoons curry powder
- 1⁄2 teaspoon dried thyme leaves
- 1⁄2 teaspoon turmeric
- 1⁄4 teaspoon fresh ground pepper
- 1⁄8 teaspoon ground red pepper (cayenne)
- salt, to tase
- 1⁄4 cup Progresso Plain Bread Crumbs
- 1⁄4 cup water
- 2 (8 ounce) Pillsbury Refrigerated Crescent Dinner Rolls
- salsa
- 1 cup old el paso thick & chunky salsa
- 1 (15 1/4 ounce) cantropical mixed fruit, coarsely chopped drained reserving 1 table. juice
- 1⁄4 teaspoon nutmeg
- Heat oven to 375°F.
- In large skillet, combine ground beef, onion, chile & garlic. Cook over med to high heat until beef is thoroughly cooked; stirring frequently; then drain fat.
- Add curry powder, thyme, turmeric, pepper, grnd red pepper & salt; mix well.
- Add bread crumbs and water; stir until thickened.
- Separate dough into 8 rectangles, firmly press perforations to seal.
- Place 2 heaping tablespoons of meat mixture on long half of a rectangle. Fold dough over filling & press edges to seal.
- Place on ungreased cookie sheet.
- Bake at 375F for 15 to 20 minutes or until golden brown.
- Meanwhile, in medium bowl, combine all salsa ingredients; mix well.
- Serve with meat pies.
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Excellent!! I loved the spice combo! I didn't do the water and breadcrumbs, and I used rolled out Pillsbury Grands Biscuits. I also mixed mango chutney and salsa for the dipping sauce. Super awesome! Thanks for this naughty little pouch of goodness ;)
Very tasty and relatively easy to make. I have never made anything like this before but once I got going it was pretty straight forward. I followed the recipe exactly up to the point of baking. I decided to freeze them, which turned out to be a good idea for later use as an appetizer for Thanksgiving. All I did was fill each one and put them all on a freezer tray. Once frozen, I popped them into a freezer bag and took them out to thaw the morning I intended to cook them. They were very flavourful and served with salsa and sour cream were lovely ! Thank you so much for a recipe I can use over and over !
This made for another great lunch Manami... We really loved it. I did cut recipe in half since we were just two. I only had the Progresso Italian breadcrumbs so I used that but I don't think that made a big difference. But I did find I needed to add a little more water than stated. The flavor of the meat mixture was so yummy !! And the taste of the salsa was absolutely delicious. These were very filling little things. I loved the Pillsbury Crescent rolls, they were just so flaky with this dish. Thanks for sharing a great recipe Manami....I will be having these again. We loved them.


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After upgrading to the latest version of wp-ecomm I can no longer checkout. Sometimes I'll add a product to the cart and go to checkout and it just shows my cart is empty. Other times my cart won't be empty but the shipping won't calculate and I'm stuck there.
You'll also notice on the checkout page (if your product actually sticks) that the zip code field says "State/Province" - entering either a state or zip does nothing. What is going on? This is a site with massive traffic and daily sales


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Did you know that the Army has been reducing the water it uses per square foot?
In 2007, the base year, the Army used 57.6 gallons of water per square foot. In 2010, the latest year that information is available, the Army had reduced that to 48.8 gallons per square foot. Thus, the Army's water use intensity is steadily declining, a decline whose continuation will assist in increasing its overall water security.
During fiscal year 2008, Tooele Army Depot, Utah, performed a leak detection survey of its underground water lines and excess water use which resulted in saving 12,000,000 gallons of water? The survey identified substantial leaks, overflowing cattle tanks, and improperly closed fire hydrants, all of which were fixed.
Waste-related statistics:
In fiscal year 2010 the Army generated 1,383,765 tons of Construction & Demolition debris. Of that, 1,015,843 tons (73.4%) were diverted.
In fiscal year 2010 the Army generated 776,383 tons of non-hazardous solid waste (excluding C&D debris. Of that, 291,846 tons (37.6%) were diverted.


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Atlantic One Financial Services686 North Dupont #107 Milford, Delaware U.S.A.
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I was home on Saturday September 17, 2005 when I received a call from a Greg Owens from Atlantic One Financial Services stating that I have been pre-approved for a credit card ranging in a credit limit of $1500-$2500. I asked a lot of questions, because I am one not to trust right away anyone that calls and with all that they still got me.
They will try to sound as professional as possible and even claim they are transferring you to the banking department, which they act as if they are recording your conversation to obtain all information from you. I gave them information to my account so they can withdraw the funds of $319.00 from my checking account to process the transaction and that I was going to receive my credit card within 7-10 business days.
I have not yet received anything and I have attempted calling them several times with no luck but to get an answering machine telling me is too full to leave a message! Ontop of that, today October,03,2005 I called again and their phone has been disconnected! I have reported this to my bank and they filed a claim to investigate this company and I also contacted the Federal Trade Commission and reported this company fraudulent.
These people should not get away with this and should be caught ASAP! hardworking citizens should not have to go through this! I also recommend to report to the major credit bureaus to protect yourself against any other information they might get from you, whether it's SS#,parent's maiden name,etc.
Good luck and hope you don't become a victim like me.
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