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- Most bookedThe Woodlands Resort & Conference Center
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"it was one of the greatest experiences i've ever had!"
A Traveller, Aug 2016, US
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"Very nice hotel, clean and stylish room. Coffee and cocktail bar, 24 hour room service and free breakfast. They contract with a shuttle service to and from the Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion - $5 each way. Will definitely stay here again for concerts."
S, Aug 2016, US
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"Experienced the friendliness and excellence as soon as we stepped out of the car. We were treated as if we were their most important guest. Extremely helpful classy people. Perfect place to stay if youre going to a concert at the Pavilion."
A Traveller, Aug 2016, US
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"Stayed here for a concert. Was a little dated outside, but inside it was great. Bed was very comfortable & the room was large and clean! The hotel is very close to the pavilion & it was a great value. Will definitely stay again!"
A Traveller, Aug 2016, US
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"Arrived later in the evening. Seamless check-in process. Room was ready as booked, key-card worked. Room was clean and the air conditioner was running to keep the room cool. TV worked well, good water pressure in the shower. Great location, quiet. Breakfast and morning coffee was great, eas..."
B, Aug 2016, US
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"We seriously enjoyed our stay staff was above and beyond expectations.Only thing I would suggest is to add the Root station to cable missed the Astros!!! Jason and the rest of bar area were great and front desk and Alicia our housekeeper were also on point!!!! "
A Traveller, Aug 2016, US
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"The stay was great the night clerk was very nice and concerned we were in town for a concert ended up in a accident."
A Traveller, Apr 2016, US
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"Not only was the hotel clean and the breakfast good, but the staff really stood out for me. I was working in the main lobby after 9 and Kyle (front desk clerk) help with the lighting and then our of the blue came by my table to bring a bottled water just in case. I staff in hundreds of hotels d..."
A Traveller, Aug 2016, US
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"Nice for the price! More than 2 nights would need to be a larger property with more amenities."
A Traveller, Aug 2016, US
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"Staff was very friendly. Room was clean and smelled fresh. "
H, Aug 2016, US
Map of Conroe hotels
- Splashtown
- Lake Conroe
- The Woodlands Golf Resort
- Market Street
- Memorial Hermann
- Cypresswood Golf Club
- Woodlands Mall
- Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion
- Old Town Spring
- Woodlands Country Club Palmer Course
- Woodforest Bank Stadium
- Conroe Regional Medical Center
- Texas Prison Museum
- Conroe Outlet Mall
- Double Lake Recreation
- Woodlands Children Museum
- Rose Hill
- Tomball Museum Center
- Gleanloch Pines Golf Club
- August Pines Golf Course
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- Courtyard by Marriott Houston Springwoods Village
- Residence Inn by Marriott Houston Springwoods Village
- Holiday Inn Express & Suites Houston NW - Tomball Area
- Homewood Suites by Hilton North Houston/Spring
- Hyatt Place Houston / The Woodlands
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DOWNTOWN — Her name is Shannon Lee but many might know her as Bruce Lee's daughter. And she doesn't really mind that facet of her identity one bit. Yet Lee, 40, is making her own claim to fame in the entertainment industry, founding a new production company — Leeway Media — in July 2008 and celebrating its... Read more →

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Roach: Chavez Trained 5 Days, Almost KO'd Martinez!
By Bill "Two Scoops" Emes
WBC middleweight champion Sergio Martinez has promised to hand trainer Freddie Roach another loss this coming Saturday night at New York's Madison Square Garden. Martinez defends his title against former three division world champion Miguel Cotto.
Two years ago, Martinez dominated another Roach fighter, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., for eleven out of twelve rounds. In the twelfth and final round, Chavez rocked, dropped and nearly stopped Martinez.
"Julio Cesar Chavez trained five days for that fight and he almost won that fight by a knockout. He came really close. I have a fighter who worked eight weeks for this fight, six days a week, 5am every morning. There is a huge, huge difference here. When you saw me on HBO waiting for [Chavez] at the gym, that happened 31 times, but didn't I want to kill the guy. The only reason I stayed was because his father asked me to stay and I respected his dad. He kept telling me to stay, that he would show up, but he never did. He sparred five days for that fight, he did the mitts four days for that fight. He ate Cheerios with his underwear on at home more than he was in the gym. I love Julio, he's a great guy but I'm disappointed that he didn't show his best that night," Roach told BoxingScene.com.
"Sergio won eleven rounds and almost got knocked out in the twelfth. But he fought a good fight, I will say that. I think he left a lot of his game in the ring that night, because that was a hard, hard fight for him. He really tried to knock [Julio] out. He was really aggressive that night. He tried and tried but he couldn't do it. And in his next fight he looked poor and I think that's because of the [Chavez] fight. I think that was his last hurrah."
Style wise Cotto matches up perfectly with Martinez. I think that's what Roach and he are banking on. Jr. was able to take all of Sergio's punches because he was likely 185 pounds in the ring. If Martinez were more…Comment by Southpawology on 06-05-2014
[QUOTE=lillu89;14623539]Yea considering Chavez was a ****ing cruiserweight at fight night I'm surprised he didn't kill Martinez, 190 plus vs a small middleweight.[/QUOTE] Exactly thats the main point here. Cotto aint a cruiserweight like Jr hes a natural welter. Jr had…Comment by GRUSTLER on 06-05-2014
Roach is a s#!t trainer. All this guy talks about is how Martinez didn't look good in his last fight. That's what he is banking on.Comment by bigjavi973 on 06-05-2014
[QUOTE=MamaHuevo;14626139]You must be smoking some stellar crack if you believe all that bull [email protected] you just wrote.[/QUOTE] I guess you can't come up with something intellegent to say about the boxing topic at hand. Go back to your moms basement,…Comment by NY2Vegas on 06-05-2014
[QUOTE=ColdBlooded;14626470]Cotto is not as powerful or durable as Chavez. People keep talking about Cotto's powerful pressure. But Cotto was too weak to pressure Trout effectively. Cotto really can't afford to be hit with any flush shots from Martinez. Cotto's not…Post a Comment - View More User Comments (71)


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In continued commitment to community and Veterans, the City of Lake Oswego Parks & Recreation Department is privileged to host the second annual tribute to Veterans. The tribute- "Honor Their Service" – will be held at 2 p.m. on Wednesday, November 11, at Lake Oswego City Hall (380 A Avenue). All veterans, current military, and our community are invited to honor all those who have served. The patriotic program includes inspirational speakers- Colonel Daniel R. Kern, Lieutenant Commander Eric Schuck, SC (Navy Reserve – Air Cargo, Navy Cargo Handling Battalion FIVE), and Jeff Keller father of PFC Andrew J. Keller. In addition to City Officials, there will be musical entertainment, Presentation of Colors and flag folding ceremony from the Lake Oswego Honor Guard, and various information booths. Our local Patriot Guard Riders will ceremoniously parade to City Hall and present American flags at both entrances. We invite you to fill out a complimentary thank you note during the tribute to let deployed soldiers know they warrant the thanks of a grateful community. For a second year, the Tribute is proudly sponsored by Northwest Investment Counselors.
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We have had some of these debates before, but what seems extreme in this case is that the lunch wasn't even supplemented by something healthy, and they the were charged $5 for crackers! This happened in Canada but I don't think we are that far off from it happening in the U.S. Would you be upset if the school added crackers to your child's healthy lunch?
A mom who thought she was properly parenting by sending her two young kids to school with a homemade, whole-food lunch was shocked to find a penalty note from school officials informing her that the lunch of roast beef, potatoes, carrots, oranges and milk she provided was "unbalanced" and therefore had to be supplemented with Ritz crackers.
She was also fined $10.
According to Weighty Matters, the Manitoba Government's Early Learning and Child Care department blindly follows a policy which requires lunches to be "balanced" according to "Canada's awful Food Guide."
Unbalanced lunches are subject to supplementation and a fine of CDN$5 (US$4.80) per "missing item" per child.
In Kristen Bartkiw's case, she "neglected" to include "grains" with Natalie and Logan's packed lunches ? a "dereliction" that was "corrected" through the "supplementation" of Ritz crackers.
According to the nutrition facts found on its homepage, a serving of Ritz crackers (~10 crackers) contains 6.5g of fat, of which nearly half is saturated.
To drive home the ridiculousness of the policy, Kristen tells Weighty Matters she could have sent her kids to daycare with "microwave Kraft Dinner and a hot dog, a package of fruit twists, a Cheestring, and a juice box," and it would have been met with approval by the MCCA.
As a follow-up, Kristen notes that other parents falling short of Manitoba's policy has resulted in the creation of a hot lunch program, which she described as "great."


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According to Nightwing (NW) #0 it had been 5 years it and the events of NW#1. In NW#0 it does not specify is this means 5 years since his parents' death, OR 5 years since he becomes (which is after months of training). In that time the only things we know for sure are that he was Batman at one point (NW#1: http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/12/120358/2576990-nightwing_1_thegroup_002.jpg), he has a Romantic history Barbara Gordan (Batgirl (BG)#3 / NW#4) and Starfire (Starfire Red Hood and the Outlaws (RH&O) #6: http://insidepulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Red-Hoods-and-the-Outlaws-6-Nightwing-+-Starfire-flashback.jpg), and he has been replaced as Robin 3 times (Batman and Robin (B&R)#12: http://insidepulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Batmans-Robins-DC-New-52.jpg). Becoming Batman could be in reference to the events after 'Battle for Cowl' or the events after 'Knightfall'- or something else entirely.
As far as costume goes: He never wore shorts, his first appearance was- http://insidepulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/nightwing-000-18.jpg (NW#0); he did wear his blue 80s costume- http://insidepulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Red-Hoods-and-the-Outlaws-6-Nightwing-+-Starfire-flashback.jpg (RH&O#6). However there is nothing to support that he wore his black costume with the blue stripe (http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090225203242/marvel_dc/images/f/fe/Nightwing_0002.jpg). Prior to becoming Batmen he had the same black and red costume that he is currently wearing (RH&O #6: http://insidepulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Red-Hoods-and-the-Outlaws-6-Jason-Todd-+-Batman-+-Nightwing-flashback.jpg). In RH&O #6 we see that Jason got his suit with the red batlogo from Kori, who kept it from her relationship with Dick - http://insidepulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Red-Hoods-and-the-Outlaws-6-Jason-Todd-+-Batman-+-Nightwing-flashback.jpg. My Theory is that this is what Dick Grayson wore under the cowl while he was Batman- thus explaining the batlogo (http://www.francescofrancavilla.com/gallery/images/batman_2009_01_low.jpg).
Did Dick Grayson ever lead the Teen Titans? There is nothing in the New 52 so suggest he lead a group by that name, however there is evidence to suggest something similar happened. In RH&O#6 Dick looks like he is leading a team with Starfire and Arsenal (http://insidepulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Red-Hoods-and-the-Outlaws-6-Nightwing-+-Starfire-flashback.jpg). In RH&O#1 Roy mentions to Kori about former Titan teammates (http://tansyrr.com/tansywp/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/starfire.jpg), but she cannot recall do to some unexplained memory loss. It is my theory that Dick Grayson lead a team of young heroes as Nightwing, but they were not called the 'Teen Titans'.
CONTINUITY PROBLEM- Roy mentions Garth and Gar presumably reefing to Beast Boy and Aqualad (RH&O: http://tansyrr.com/tansywp/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/starfire.jpg). Beast Boy is still only a kid in by Teen Titans (TT) #8 with no prior superhero experience and this runs at the same time line as NW and RH&O (according to 'Night of Owls'). Meanwhile Aqualad 'Garth' has just recently been mentioned in passing Aquaman (AM) 14 (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/13/134757/2715855-aquaman.jpg) as a boy. Justice League (JL) #7 also happened at the same time as the 'Night of Owls' (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-K4SeBYU-cdM/T9Yp21Lw3FI/AAAAAAAAA6g/5ADtAAWAQjI/s1600/owls2.png), and given the upcoming crossover AM also happen at the same time. Meaning that RH&O made reference to 2 characters who didn't even exist- let alone have history with them [Somewhat troubling considering Scott Lobdell wrote RH&O#1 and introduce Beast Boy in TT#8]. If someone else can find a solution to this, that would be great...
Jason Todd:
So to some up so far Dick's parents have died, and he has become Robin. Then he is fired/quits being Robin and leads his own super team, while Batman replaces him with Jason Todd. When Jason and Dick do meet they do NOT get along at all (http://insidepulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Red-Hoods-and-the-Outlaws-6-Jason-Todd-+-Nightwing-flashback.jpg). Given the previous picture it looks like Dick was just about grown up when Jason took over. According to RH&O#0 the Joker played a hand in having Jason become Robin (http://cdn.ifanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Red-Hood-and-the-Outlaws-0-2012.jpg ). After becoming Robin he was killed by the Joker ('A Death in the Family'), and resurrected by Ra's al Ghul, and his Daughter Talia brought him to the Temple of All to train. Next he returned to Gotham to seek vengeance on the Joker and Batman, after what I can only presume was a huge growth-spurt. It is also implied in RH&O#1 that he had fought with Nightwing often after this point (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bV1xktCrbLU/TojULUdyukI/AAAAAAAABao/cVS6ghdUYew/s1600/Starfire+in+a+bikini+red+hood.jpg). This sounds similar to what happened in 'Battle for Cowl' (http://images.wikia.com/marvel_dc/images/1/14/Dick_beats_jason_BTFC.jpg ) and the events of Grant Morrison's 'Batman and Robin' from before 'the new 52' (http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llcfsyrdWy1qbujox.jpg ). However this does not confirm that 'Battle for Cowl' happened, it could refer to other encounters with Nightwing. This is all supposed to happed in a five year period, and Jason's half of the story doesn't even start until Dick is fired/quits- which is at least a year.
Hair: Prior to 'Crisis on Infinite Earths' he was a redhead (http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100611133952/marvel_dc/images/2/21/Precrisis_jay.jpg ). After this he was a brunette as soon as he met Batman (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Zgdcd7oA5OY/SeY-C8_EX-I/AAAAAAAAAiU/yBbjPD0NbSw/s400/peru21-jason-todd.jpg ). After 'Final Crisis' he claims he was a redhead but Batman always made him dye his hair to be more like Dick (http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d134/per1etwo/comics/p2_bnr05_p15.jpg ). Now in the 'New 52' he's a brunette again- unless he's still dyeing his hair for no reason at all. He no longer has a white strip of hair from being resurrected by the Lazareth, but could that just be dye? I don't think it is.
Tim Drake:
In TT#1 I see that Tim had been Batman's sidekick at some point. It is implied that he is the one in hte picture with batman. (bottom right: http://cdn1.sciencefiction.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Teen-Titans-New-52-Splash-Page.jpg) . However based off of his look what you started comment, it is unclear if he means himself, Bruce or Dick. Is it possible that this is Dick Grayson in the picture and he is wondering what Dick Grayson- the first Robin and presumably the first teen hero – was thinking? I feel this is unlikely
In TT#0 we find out that Tim was never Robin. Does this mean he was never batman's sidekick either? My theory is that he was never called 'Robin' (out of respect for Jason) and always referred to as 'Red Robin'. This explains why his costume in this photo is all red while his predecessors wore almost the same costume (Dick: http://insidepulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/nightwing-000-18.jpg; Jason: http://insidepulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Red-Hood-and-the-Outlaws-0-Jason-Robin-2.jpg).
In RH&O#8 it looks as though Tim and Jason are on good terms (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a188/aubreys_master/Other%20pics/rho82.jpg). Tim also makes reference here to events similar to what happened prior to Flashpoint and the New 52 (http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060207211460/marvel_dc/images/6/65/Teen_Titans_v.3_29.jpg)
Damian Wayne
In B&R#1 Damian Wayne is approximately 8 -10 years old, which is the age Dick Grayson was when he was first brought into comics as Robin in 1940. Many people have taken issue with DC's 5 year later idea. They mentions that if Talia and Bruce conceived him while Bruce was Batman, then Damiann should only be 5 years old since Bruce has only been Batman for 5 years. This is a valid point and a problem. As http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma58tovVG41qhmpzqo1_500.jpg . By JL#1 Batman has become a myth/legend and humors of him have spread to Coast City (JL#1: http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/40/2075187-jlbatgl.jpg ). It is not unreasonable to think that Bruce may have been roaming the streets of Gotham as Batman for 3-5 years prior to JL#1 in order for rumors of him to spread around the nation. If his affair with Talia happened at the beginning of his career (let us assume it does) then we can say that it happened 3-5 years before JL#1 and thus 8-10 years before B&R#1, making Damian 8-10 years old.points out Damien was/could be a test-tube baby and his aging could have been accelerated. This is not a bad idea, and frankly resolves a lot of issues for me. However, mytheory is that Batman has been around for more than 5 years. He would have to. Otherwise Bruce returns home after years of being missing, becomes batman and meets Dick Grayson all in the same month. This is possible, but highly unlikely so I will dismiss any claim that Detective Comics #0 happened only 5 years prior to current events such as 'Night of Owls'. JL, after #7, and B&R take place at the same time. Thus JL#1 is 5 years prior to B&R#1 and Damian (had he aged naturally) would have been 3-5 years old. Assuming B&R#0 is part of DC's '5 years ago' plan then Damien would have been 3-5 years old at this point-
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So... are we pretending this didn't happen? Does this mean Tim's never had a girlfriend?


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Andrew Bolt –, Friday, December, 21, 2007, (11:38am)
That's it from me for this year. I hope and expect at this stage to be back in a few weeks - perhaps around Australia Day.
I toyed with the idea of keeping the blog going during my holidays, but my wife got
angry cross (wife's edit) and I think I probably need the break, to be honest. I need to look around me for a while, read a bit more, draw breath and recalculate perspective. I also need to rediscover the length of time, after having it snipped to five-minute lengths by this "feed-me, feed-me" blog.
I don't mean that for an instant to sound self-pitying. I'm reloading, not unloading. In fact, the blog this year has turned into the most interesting and compelling part of my job, and easily the most fun. My problem now isn't fitting in the blog around my columns, but the other way around. Column-writing days - Tuesdays and Thursdays - have become a bit of a nightmare, and are like running a marathon at sprint speed, not daring to lose a second of any hour. I'm such a slow thinker and slower writer, anyway, you see.
This blog has become fun not just because it's fast and furious, operating always in now-time. And not just because it gives me more space, freedom and target shooting than two pages a week of print.
It's fun especially because of you, dear readers. The interaction we've had has been brilliant. Through it, you've affirmed the best I've done and corrected the worst. You've reminded me that communication always takes two - one to speak and another to hear. You've educated me, too - because as you can see, so many of my best posts were suggested by readers who drew my attention to important or intriguing things I'd most likely have missed. So often you've warned me of new data on global warming in particular that most of the media has scrupulously ignored - and shouldn't.
I've enjoyed our discussions immensely, even if the comments come in now so fast I cannot possibly reply to more than a fraction. I've loved hearing from people who have posted here since the blog began, and am delighted to see them joined lately by many more contributors of sense, whether professors or grandmothers, think-tankers or farmers.
I've even enjoyed some of the relentlessly-critical - like the now-famous Barry Bones - because they, too, have their role; first, to demonstrate that this is indeed a site for debating, not just baaing, and to suggest by the sheer mindlessness of so many of their counterarguments that I must be doing all right.
In fact, we're all doing all right. Here are the figures from my latest blog report from November (figures inflated, of course, by the election):
Page Impressions
• Page impressions year on year for November have increased 260% to almost 900,000
• A total of 6,000,000 page impressions over the past 12 months
Unique Browsers
• Unique Browsers year on year for November have increased 280% to over 80,000
That's a pretty pleasing rate of growth. It's a great community we've got here, and getting bigger by the week.
But it won't get bigger for the next few weeks, that's for sure. In future I shall have to try to get a guest blogger for my holidays, and treat you more seriously. I apologise for not having been able to do that this time.
But maybe you should have a break, too. Play with the kids, as I intend to. Read some of the books suggested by so many of our highly literate readers. Enjoy our great good fortune. For me there will be a few other things to attend to, like playing the Bach cello suites recommended to me by a friend. Finding some more bottles of that Green Point reserve Pinot Noir. And checking how those new varieties of tomato seedlings I was sent are doing by the side of the house. And, of course, I'll have to keep up that damn bucket-brigading thanks to a government so green-blind as to refuse to build the new dam our gardens need.
All in all, life is pretty good - terrific, really - and I hope it is for you, too.
Have a wonderful, wonderful Christmas and a great New Year. And thank you for all the many Christmas good wishes you have sent me. My thanks to you all for those and for much more.
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Why greens love "climate change" more than "global warming"
Andrew Bolt –, Friday, December, 21, 2007, (11:15am)
Global warming believers have long run the conspiratorial claim that it was wicked President Bush who decided to rebadge global warming as "climate change" to make it seem less threatening.
Odd, though, that so many green groups happily followed the orders of a president they loathe.
But Britain's Tyndall Centre, a home of evangelical warming believers, makes clear it's actually the believers who insisted on that name change and explains why. From its Working Paper No. 58 - The Social Simulation of the Public Perception of Weather Events and their Effect upon the Development of Belief in Anthropogenic Climate Change:
Only the perception of positive anomalies (in the weather) will be registered as an indication of change, if the issue is framed as global warming.
Both positive and negative temperature anomalies will be registered in experience as an indication of change, if the issue is framed as 'climate change'.
We propose that in those countries where climate change has become the predominant popular term for the phenomenon, unseasonably cold temperatures, for example, are also interpreted to reflect climate change/ global warming.
To interpret: "climate change" is useful because everything from cold weather to warm can be used as "proof".
(Thanks to reader John McLean.)
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We'll soon have you all in clogs
Andrew Bolt –, Friday, December, 21, 2007, (10:57am)
Sam Roggeveen is a forgiving - and, it turns out, discerning - man. Either that, or the Dutch mafia looks after its own.
Prettigge Kerst, Sam. But there's a difference between being defensive and explaining why nonsense won't change your mind. Or did I just prove your point?
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Warming stopped
Andrew Bolt –, Friday, December, 21, 2007, (10:24am)
Dr David Whitehouse, author of The Sun: A Biography, checks the temperature:
The fact is that the global temperature of 2007 is statistically the same as 2006 as well as every year since 2001. Global warming has, temporarily or permanently, ceased. Temperatures across the world are not increasing as they should according to the fundamental theory behind global warming — the greenhouse effect. Something else is happening and it is vital that we find out what or else we may spend hundreds of billions of pounds needlessly.
Professor David Deming, an astrophysicist, agrees:
Al Gore says global warming is a planetary emergency. It is difficult to see how this can be so when record low temperatures are being set all over the world. In 2007, hundreds of people died, not from global warming, but from cold weather hazards.
Since the mid-19th century, the mean global temperature has increased by 0.7 degrees Celsius. This slight warming is not unusual, and lies well within the range of natural variation. Carbon dioxide continues to build in the atmosphere, but the mean planetary temperature hasn't increased significantly for nearly nine years. Antarctica is getting colder. Neither the intensity nor the frequency of hurricanes has increased. The 2007 season was the third-quietest since 1966. In 2006 not a single hurricane made landfall in the U.S.
(Thanks to numerous readers.)
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Rann pays his drivelling mate
Andrew Bolt –, Friday, December, 21, 2007, (9:40am)
Premier Mike Rann (right) and mate and speech-writer Bob Ellis, after another session of taxpayer-funded speechifying.
What would you give to a lout like Bob Ellis, whose writings include garbage like this?
In most war propaganda a bogyman kills or tortures children . . . It's all so vulgar and creepy. I mean I assume Saddam, a ruthless, ambitious fan of Stalin, did bad things and killed a lot of people in his time. But kill them pointlessly? I don't think so. He was too shrewd for that; too shrewd to make enemies needlessly.
And what would you pay the author of this description of the Iraqi terrorists who kidnapped Douglas Wood for 47 days, killed two of his colleagues and shot other capitives in front of their hostages?
Would you give even two cents to a fool who could sneer:
What a hateful nation (the US) is entirely. I also bet that the plane that "crashed" on 9/11 in that Pennsylvania field was actually shot down by American fighters...
Well, here's how much Mike Rann pays him - of taxpayers' money, that is:
PREMIER Mike Rann's close friend Bob Ellis has been paid more than $150,000 to write speeches for him since he came to power in 2002, despite Mr Rann having a full-time speechwriter on staff.
Would that be mate's rates?
Sydney-based Mr Ellis, a long-time friend and stalwart of Mr Rann's, read a poem at the Premier's wedding last year.
Paid for?
(Thanks to reader Owen.)
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"Once we get in we'll change everything" #8
Andrew Bolt –, Friday, December, 21, 2007, (8:32am)
Kevin Rudd three days after the election:
I'm determined to do something about freedom of information. This is notoriously seen as something that executive governments don't like because it causes information to go out which might be embarrassing. I'd like to, by contrast, encourage a culture of disclosure within government departments.
Kevin Rudd four weeks after the election:
SOME of Australia's major institutions will have their media releases vetted by the Rudd Government to make sure they reflect Labor's "key messages".
This latest backflip is actually outrageous - and dangerous:
A directive was issued this week by the Department of Innovation, Industry, Science and Research to about a dozen statutory agencies.
Recipients include the CSIRO, the Australian Institute of Marine Science, the Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation, the Australian Research Council, the Co-operative Research Centres and Invest Australia. Even the Questacon science museum in Canberra was sent the directive.
It says the Prime Minister's office has instructed that "all strategic media releases which relate to the Government's key messages" must be forwarded to the department which will then submit them to the office of the minister, Kim Carr…
The directive says releases "of a more pedestrian nature" need not be vetted but anything to do with climate change, industrial relations policy, education and science reform, tax policy, national security and health must be submitted.
If John Howard had tried this disgraceful stunt, how fast David Marr would have added this his list of proofs that the wicked government had indeed "gagged scientists, silenced non-government organisations (and) neutered Canberra's mandarins".
Now that Rudd is indeed doing what Howard was accused of, let us pray that Marr, Robert Manne and the rest are not hypocrites, but will join us in fighting this attempt by Kim Carr, naturally of the totalitarian-tempted Socialist Left, to crush free speech. Any bets?
But the real issue is not the hypocrisy but the danger.
Why does this move matter? For a start, no government should stop scientific organisations from speaking what they believe to be the truth about science. I know the CSIRO's record of exaggerating the global warming hype is shameful, but the day may well come when it, too, joins the long list of scientists now expressing doubts.
What then? Will an ideologue like Kim Carr than censor such a challenge to the Government's "key messages"?
And will ANSTO be forbidden from saying nuclear power is safe? Will AIMS be gagged from saying the Great Barrier Reef isn't actually likely to be wiped out in decades? Will Questacon be banned from saying GM crops are actually safe?
I knew Kevin Rudd was a control freak, but this is insane.
Phillip Coorey notes:
Under the old regime no such restrictions were placed on statutory organisations. Media releases were always sent to the relevant minister as a courtesy but never for vetting or approval, unless the minister in person was directly quoted.
One former Liberal minister was taken aback when he heard of the directive. "They really are control freaks," he said. He said it was not unusual in the past for the CSIRO, for example, to issue a release on climate change that "was contrary to our position … We just gritted out teeth and wore it."
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The Lion, the Unicorn and the Crescent Moon
Andrew Bolt –, Friday, December, 21, 2007, (8:03am)
The race is on: will England change the immigrants or the other way around?
Mohammed is on track to become the most popular boy's name in England and Wales by next year. This year the name, in its various forms, was second only to Jack, which has been top for the past 13 years.
But there were just 385 more children called Jack, and because of the high birth rate among Muslim families, the name is set to become the most popular boy's name by next year
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Carey toughens up her children
Andrew Bolt –, Friday, December, 21, 2007, (7:39am)
Gabrielle Carey writes one of those pieces that seems to be less an affirmation than a plea for absolution:
I'm the kind of wife and mother loathed by advocates of traditional family values. I'm so adept at losing husbands that even my daughter thinks I need chastising. "Two husbands, that's normal, but three! That's just stupid!"
As you can imagine, being a chronic husband-loser can have its complications. Labels can become particularly difficult. The daughter of my ex-partner's sister by her first marriage used to be my step-niece, but now that he's re-partnered (as they say in the relationships business) and so have I, (twice), what do I call her?
Not an ideal scenario perhaps but let's be honest, how many of us have ideal families? ...
From the outside, my family may not look normal — we're not a matching set, we're all different colours, and there's a certain — how can I put it? — a certain fluidity to the position of the father figure. But from the inside I don't think it's all that different from any other family. My ex-step-niece is still part of the extended family. These days she's nursing Grandma in the mornings and tutoring my ex-partner's girlfriend's children in the afternoon. She's friendly with her father, tolerates her stepfather, goes fishing with her half-brother and babysits my youngest (that's her cousin, I think). Oh, and she recently won a scholarship for Latin at Sydney University.
It's a complicated life, yes, and she's had her fair share of suffering. But as a graduating doctor, the difficulties she's had to negotiate in life might actually serve her well. You could even argue that her family history has prepared her far better for a career dealing with people's problems than a medical graduate from an upper North Shore private school with a neurosurgeon for a father and a mother utterly devoted to the family except for Thursday afternoon tennis. What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger, said Nietzsche.
Or what doesn't make you stronger can kill you first.
I think Carey is trying too hard. "She's had here fair share of suffering… but"? A parent's duty to their children is not to knock them so hard that being a doctor will be a breeze. Nor is a relationship of that kind likely to be a parent's greatest reward and joy.
But I suspect Carey herself realises she's not being quite honest - and that there is in fact an important difference between a happy, secure home with a loving mum and dad always there, and a dad-today-stepdad-tomorrow life of fleeting bonds and souring love.
Just ask the children which they'd prefer. Ask hers.
Doc Molloy in comments below recalls Carey's other musings on her fraught family. I'm not sure she should be recommending her way of life to anyone.
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Hear it from Hicks, Tracee
Andrew Bolt –, Friday, December, 21, 2007, (7:13am)
To apologists such as Tracee Hutchison, David Hicks was just a critic of George Bush's foreign policies since 2001.
He was certainly not the only Australian who considered the warmongering activities of George Bush — and his allies — to be abhorrent and worthy of opposing. And he has paid the price of his convictions.
But now we can read letters Hicks wrote to his family before Bush first went to war - in Afghanistan in November 2001 - and we find his agenda was rather different - and included punishing non-believers just like Hutchison:
From 2000:
Dear family I spent around three months in a muslim military training camp in the mountains. I learnt about weapons such as ballistic missiles, surface to surface and shoulder fired missiles, anti aircraft and anti-tank rockets, rapid fire heavy and light machine guns, pistols, AK47s, mines and explosives…
That night we crossed the LOC (thought to be Line of Control in Kashmir) four people each with rocket propelled grenades 200m from a bunker holding two soldiers. I hope one (soldier) was the same one who killed the two civilians. (from an incident earlier witnessed in which Indian soldiers killed civilians)
There is a very heavy war in the north (of Afghanistan) I have arranged to go to the front… I will always fight for Islam.
The Christians and Jews are fighting the Muslims. As a practicing Muslim with military experience I can go to help in any of those conflicts contacts are not a problem.
In October and November 2000:
Jihad is still valid today and will be for all time. The West is full of poison. The western society is controlled by the Jews with music, TV, houses, cars, free sex takes Muslims away from the true Islam keeps Islam week and in the third world.
Real jihad is possible just like before in the Prophets day where martyrs die with a smile on their faces and their bodies stay smelling of beautiful perfume for weeks after death.
The West lives in the dark in a narrow sort of living. Allah will use his servants to punish non-believers in this world.
As a Muslim young and fit my responsibility is to protect my brothers from aggressive non-believers and not let them destroy it. Islam will rule again but for now we must have patience we are asked to sacrifice our lives for Allahs cause why not? There are many privileges in heaven. It is not just war it is jihad…
The only true Muslims are those fighting. I am now very well trained for jihad in weapons some serious like anti-aircraft missiles. The Jews have complete financial and media control many of them are in the Australian government.
In late May 2001:
I have met Osama bin Laden about 20 times he is a lovely brother the only reason the West call him the most wanted terrorist is because he got the money to take action.
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Does it matter if the president is unfaithful?
Andrew Bolt –, Friday, December, 21, 2007, (6:51am)
Katie Couric of CBS asks the presidential candidates a question I first thought was too prying:
Harry Truman once said, "A man not honorable in his marital relations is not usually honorable in any other." Some voters say they don't feel comfortable supporting someone who's not remained faithful to his or her spouse. Can you understand or appreciate their point of view?
And yet some of the answers were interesting, in the genial of that word:
(T)he only-- only thing I can say to people is I'm not perfect, you know? And I've made mistakes in my life. And-- and that-- not-- not just in that area. In other areas and I try to learn from it. I try to-- I feel sorry about them. I try to-- I try to learn from them so I don't repeat them.
Sometimes I even repeat them and you-- you try again. I mean, you-- you-- so-- I have a-- maybe a more generous view of human beings and a more generous view of life. I mean, it comes from growing up as a Catholic. I mean, we're all sinners. We're all struggling. We're all trying hard. We ask for forgiveness, and then we try to improve ourselves again. And I've-- relate to other people that way. Relate to the world that way.
If-- if you violate the promise that you made to the one person on earth to whom you're supposed to be closest to, and this vow was made in front of your families, your closest friends, and God, and you don't keep that, then can we trust you to keep a promise that you made to people you don't even know?…
One of the things that I think I've learned most about life-- particularly from my experience of having been a pastor, is that the people that you think are the best people on earth? Well, they've got some secrets sitting in there, about some pretty dark spots.
And the people you think are the dregs of the earth-- there's some qualities there. May not be on the surface, but they're there. The capacity to make great decisions is not always-- the same as the capacity to make really good personal decisions.
Well, I think this is-- this is-- if you're-- if you're not faithful to your wife, you're not faithful to the country, to your ideals. You're not faithful to the spirit in which Americans trust their political leaders. And they expect them to-- to-- to have a sense of honor.
Nobody's perfect. I've been married to Barbara for 35 years. We've had our differences, our difficulties, but we've stayed together. But I think being faithful is-- is-- is a-- an essential component of any relationship. It's whether a voter can trust you to-- to be thinking about the common good as opposed to personal ambition or anything else.
Look, this is really dicey territory. Let me say it this way. I think that one's character, one's honesty, one's integrity-- is a habit of the mind. I don't think people can be-- dishonest in one aspect of their life, and compartmentalize it and be viewed as being honest in other parts of life.
If the tendency is to cut a corner. If the tendency is not to tell the truth, the probability is, that in a moment of crisis, where that person's interests are at stake, they're likely revert to the bad tendencies. If the habit of the heart and the habit of the mind is, that whether you're dealing with promising the parking attendant you're gonna be back in 20 minutes. Or you're telling your wife something, or you are going to the nation and making a commitment.
There is-- habits are habits. And they all relate to, seems to me, how an individual values what they say as being important and relevant. Everybody makes mistakes. I-- I don't have a-- you know, I don't pass harsh judgments on people who make-- my-- dad used to say, very good people do very bad things sometimes. But it's more of whether it's a pattern or a mistake....
(But) voters-- voters make-- as they should, make-- decisions relative to the leaders based on their needs. The need of the voter. And-- if you have someone who is-- you need someone to be a great general to win a battle and he is a no-good guy, you'd never wanna show up for dinner. You might very well say, I'd vote for that guy to be the General. I'd vote that person or that woman to be the-- you know, the Governor, or what ever…
But it's an interesting thing. I remember asking-- one-- one of the people who's-- a-- a smart guy, is this guy Frank Luntz, who does these groups. And I remember hearing him speak and saying that the polling data shows that the characteristic-- he asked the question generically.
What characteristic do you think the American people most look for in their-- in-- in-- in their president? And I immediately said-- honesty, integrity. In my mind. And he said, no, no. Then he asked the audience. And they said-- the simple most important thing they're looking for is resilience. Someone who can take a 'hit' and get back up and move on.
Worth asking.
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Sunderland won their first match under new manager Paolo Di Canio, beating Newcastle United 3-0 in a thunderous Tyne-Wear derby to ease their Premier League relegation woes on Sunday.
Di Canio, who replaced Martin O'Neill and saw them beaten in his first match in charge at Chelsea last week, celebrated their goals from Stephane Sessegnon, Adam Johnson and David Vaughan with an outpouring of emotion.
He leapt in the air, did a series of arm pumps, ran down the touchline and slid along the ground in his suit as Sunderland won at St James' Park to end a nine-match winless streak and record their biggest win at Newcastle since October 1966.
"I'm happy for my players because they were warriors today," Di Canio said on the BBC.
"I was excited to see our fans celebrate because I know what it means to win here."
The victory moved them up from 17th to 15th in the table, above Stoke City who play league leaders Manchester United later.
It was also their first win at Newcastle since November 2000 and was thoroughly deserved because they were sharper and more clinical than their opponents.
Sessegnon opened the scoring with a low shot after 27 minutes, Johnson made it 2-0 with a left-foot curler after 74 and Vaughan put the icing on the cake with a stunning half-volley with the outside of his left boot with eight minutes remaining.
The second and third goals came after Newcastle keeper Tim Krul had suffered an elbow injury and was replaced by substitute Rob Elliott, but no goalkeeper could have realistically saved either effort.
The result kept Newcastle on the fringes of the relegation battle, in 13th place on 36 points from 33 matches. Sunderland moved up to 34 points, three clear of FA Cup finalists Wigan Athletic.
Queens Park Rangers and Reading, who both have 24 points, occupy the bottom two places in the table.
"Yes, it's a big win in terms of the area but it's only one step and not a big step in terms of the table," Di Canio added.
"When I saw the players in the dressing room before the game I saw they had very high determination and desire. It's obvious you could see in the last 20 minutes that we improved from Chelsea."
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Easy to install. Works well. Attractive. So happy to have soap dispenser. Wish it had sprayer with the pull-out spout.
The faucet is great especially for the price. The only problem is the extending spray head does not stay locked in when not in use and dangles down. Just looks tacky, I would not buy this item because of that alone.
We first bought this faucet when we were updating our home to put it on the market. We put one in our kitchen & another in our laundry room. The quality of this faucet is great - solid brass, very heavy & substantial. The beauty of this faucet is equally as nice - clean, modern simplicity. The one thing this faucet does not have is a spray feature. It has a pullout, but it is only a stream. I thought I would miss that feature more than I actually do, and I appreciate the streamlined style. We liked the faucet so much that we have purchased 3 for our new home! The value is amazing! You can see similar faucets (but not as nice!) in the $XXX. - $XXX. range. The soap dispenser is just an added bonus. So, overall, this is a faucet of excellent quality, excellent value & great style - thank you Overstock!
Really pleased with this tap, fantastic quality, sturdy and heavy. Love it. The service was also excellent.
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The accompanying soap dispenser was almost too short for hte granite countertop. I finally but barely got it to fit
I've been happy with this faucet - it's a smaller-scale, and provides a pull-out in a single-handle faucet, which is what I wanted. I too had the difficulty with the sprayer being hard to pull out. I applied some silicone lubricant to the metal hose and it slides in and out much more easily, with less stress on the faucet body itself.
I like the looks of the faucet, but was fooled because the title called it a pull-out sprayer. I thought this would mean the water flow could switch from sprayer to aerated, but there is no "spray" setting on the faucet -- only regular aerated water flow. My other complaint is that when you pull out the sprayer there's a lot of movement in the faucet arm, which makes it feel like it's going to break. I'm not sure if this is supposed to happen, or it's just a poor design. I do not have the problem the other reviewer mentioned -- my "sprayer" feeds back into the faucet nicely. I guess the jury's still out as far as whether or not I like it. The spray function I can live without, but I really don't like the flimsy feel of the faucet arm when pulling out the sprayer. I know I'll be holding the arm still, while I remove the spray hose just to be sure it won't break.
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Hajj stampede: Saudi king orders safety assessment
24 September 2015
- From the section Middle East
Saudi Arabia's King Salman has ordered a safety evaluation for the Hajj pilgrimage right after at least 717 folks died in a stampede near the holy city of Mecca.
Another 863 individuals were injured in the incident at Mina, which occurred as two million pilgrims had been taking portion in the Hajj's final major rite.
It is the deadliest incident to occur in the course of the pilgrimage in 25 years.
The king stated there was a want "to enhance the level of organisation and management of movement" of pilgrims.
In images: Aftermath of the stampede
Accounts from BBC staff in Mina
Was stampede preventable?
In the latest reaction:
- A commission to investigate the crush has been formed by the Saudi government
- The Saudi health minister, Khaled al-Falih, mentioned the crush occurred because a lot of pilgrims moved "without respecting the timetables" established by authorities
- Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the supreme leader of Iran, which lost at least 95 of its citizens in the crush, stated the Saudi government "must accept the huge duty for this catastrophe"
- He added that "mismanagement and improper actions" were to blame
It is the second disaster to strike Mecca in two weeks, soon after a crane collapsed at the Grand Mosque, killing 109 folks.
As component of the Hajj, pilgrims travel to Mina, a huge valley about 5km (3 miles) from Mecca, to throw seven stones at pillars known as Jamarat, which represent the devil.
The pillars stand exactly where Satan is believed to have tempted the Prophet Abraham.
Why do millions gather in Mecca each and every year?
The accident occurred at 09:00 nearby time (06:00 GMT) as pilgrims had been walking towards the 5-storey structure which surrounds the pillars, identified as the Jamarat Bridge.
Maj Gen Mansour al-Turki, a spokesman for the Saudi interior ministry, mentioned the crush occurred when two massive groups of pilgrims converged from different directions on to 1 street.
Photographs showed the bodies of dozens of pilgrims on the ground, some piled higher. They had been all dressed in the basic white garments worn throughout the Hajj.
"I saw someone trip more than a person in a wheelchair and many folks tripping over him," Abdullah Lotfy, from Egypt, told the Linked Press. "Men and women had been climbing more than one particular yet another just to breathe."
"Dead bodies stretch as far as my eyes can see," said Bashir Sa'ad Abdullahi, the BBC's Abuja editor, who is in Mina.
The civil defence directorate said the victims were of "distinct nationalities", without delivering particulars.
The BBC understands at least 3 Indonesians, and some pilgrims from Niger, are amongst the dead.
The UK Foreign Office said it was urgently looking for much more details about whether or not British nationals have been involved.
Hajj: Prior tragedies
2006: 364 pilgrims die in a crush at foot of Jamarat Bridge in Mina
1997: 340 pilgrims are killed when fire fuelled by higher winds sweeps through Mina's tent city
1994: 270 pilgrims die in a stampede during the stoning ritual
1990: 1,426 pilgrims, mainly Asian, die in a stampede in an overcrowded tunnel leading to holy web sites
1987: 402 people die when security forces break up an anti-US demonstration by Iranian pilgrims
Timeline: Deadliest stampedes
The Saudi authorities have spent billions of dollars on improving transport and other infrastructure to attempt to avoid such incidents.
The Hajj is the fifth and final pillar of Islam. It is the journey that every able-bodied adult Muslim need to undertake at least as soon as in their lives if they can afford it.
The quantity of individuals attending Hajj rose from 57,000 in 1921 to a high of three.2m 3 years ago, according to the Saudi Central Department of Statistics and Details.
That figure dropped to just over two million last year.
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As British best-selling crime author David Hewson reflects in his introduction to this innovative project, "the Scottish play" is shrouded in mysteries that are not to be taken lightly. Shakespeare condensed and confused 17 years in the history of a beloved king into a play covering a few days rife with political intrigue and shadowy motivations. In The Bard's tragic canon, Macbeth stands as an anomaly for many reasons, including how short it is and how flat all the characters are besides Macbeth himself. With the help of A.J. Hartley, distinguished professor of Shakespeare at UNC-Charlotte and thriller novelist, Macbeth: A Novel is poised to provide a more complete and fleshy picture of this odd little play.
Going where many other actors would fear to tread is, of course, Alan Cumming. Cumming has a long history with daring characters on stage and on the big screen, as well as his fair share of Shakespeare with a previous turn as Hamlet. With an Audie Award already under his belt, he has the chops necessary to imagine and give voice to paranoid kings and conniving witches, but perhaps one of the greatest joys of his work on Macbeth: A Novel is just the fact of his naturally beautiful Scottish accent left unfettered. Nothing sets the landscape so clearly as listening to those long, rolling vowels come up from a part of the belly that only a Scot must have.
Cumming does not shy away from the devious depths of feeling that Hartley and Hewson have so carefully layered onto the play. No more off-stage murder, no more simply scary witches chanting, and quite a bit more sympathy for this story's many devils. Every poisonous cup and every stab wound are rendered in living battle colors. The three witches are not just weird, but positively demonic, each with their own dynamic contribution to the making of a king. Lady Macbeth and Banquo in particular have personalities that loom as large as Macbeth's familiar form.
A strikingly modern interpretation that nevertheless faithfully adapts Shakespeare's original, this audiobook will surely please a wide variety of listeners. Lovers of mysteries or political thrillers, teachers struggling to blow the dust off a classic for their students, and fans of Shakespeare will all find many reasons to enjoy Hartley and Hewson's fresh presentation. Megan Volpert
Macbeth: A Novel brings the intricacy and grit of the historical thriller to Shakespeare's tale of political intrigue, treachery, and murder. In this full-length novel written exclusively for audio, authors A. J. Hartley and David Hewson rethink literature's most infamous married couple, grounding them in a medieval Scotland whose military and political upheavals are as stark and dramatic as the landscape on which they are played.
Macbeth is a war hero and a patriot, doing everything in his power to hold together Duncan's crumbling kingdom, which is beset by sedition from within and with threats from overseas. But when Duncan, contrary to ancient Scottish tradition, turns to building a family dynasty instead of rewarding those who have borne the brunt of the fighting, Macbeth and his powerful wife, Skena, make plans of their own, plans designed to hold both the nation and their strained relationship together. Sinister figures who claim supernatural knowledge spur them on, but the terrible outcome is as much about accident and failure as it is malevolence. Soon Macbeth and his wife find themselves preeminent in all the land, but struggling to hold themselves and their country together as former friends turn into bitter and deadly enemies.
This is Macbeth as you have not heard it before: fresh, edgy, and vital. It is a story of valor in battle, whispering in shadows, witchcraft in the hollows of an ancient landscape, and the desperate struggle of flawed people to do what they think is right.
A. J. Hartley, a professor of Shakespeare at the Univ. of North Carolina-Charlotte, is the author of the "Will Hawthorne" fantasy series as well as several thrillers.
David Hewson is the best-selling author of 16 novels, including the Rome-based "Nic Costa" crime series.
Alan Cumming stars in CBS's The Good Wife, for which he received an Emmy nomination, and is the host of PBS's Masterpiece Mystery. He was honored with the 2011 Audie Award for Best Male Narrator.
The Irish folk song "She Moved Through the Fair" is performed by Heather O'Neil of the Irish Repertory Theater.
Check out behind-the-scenes videos of the "making of", plus co-author David Hewson's research photos, taken on-location in Scotland, here.
Listen to more titles from A. J. Hartley and David Hewson.
©2011 A.J. Hartley, David Hewson (P)2011 Audible, Inc.
"Not only is the novel an amplification of Shakespeare's famous tragedy, but it also fills in many of the gaps and gives a new perspective on Macbeth….Alan Cumming reads in a luscious Scottish brogue, which adds authenticity to the narration. His subtle changes of voice for different characters provide a full cast for this story of ambition and hubris. This is a wonderful novel of the human condition, read with ardor and enthusiasm." (AudioFile)
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Nicely done. Helped to bring Macbeth alive and demonstrated that an old story is still relevant.
"Novel Macbeth"
I liked that I could understand-follow through with the narrator & that I could bookmark-dog ear as needed. I love using Audible to pass the time or audible KIDS to tuck us in. This program for IOS devices not only keeps us updated it keeps off summer adult & kid atrophying. Don't get me wrong we love books we just use them with audible as companions. If I had this system as a child it would have definitely complicated me educational needs. Thanks for the TEAM from my team.
"A wonderful listen"
It's been nearly 60 years since last reading the play. Enjoyed the new treatment/adaptation. May have to pull down the "Works " off the shelf for a read.
"Great story!"
This book was a very enjoyable version of Shakespeare's play. It kept the reader engaged with great narration as well.
history buff
"Powerful, compellingly narrated rendition"
Fabulous audiobook, surely the equal of "Hamlet - the Novel" by the same authors. Anyone interested in Shakespeare will find these more fleshed-out versions of the plays to be interesting. Anyone intimidated by Shakespeare, especially reading or watching the plays with their Elizabethan english, will find these books very approachable, suitable for the layman, and supremely entertaining. Macbeth will give you an unparalleled lens to the period and it will confirm the suspicion that Shakespeare may have been the greatest writer in the history of the english language. The narration is excellent.
"Dark and powerful"
This is a perfect example of cunning writing, a story inspired and yet disturbing, that is delivered by the masterful talent of a true artist. Bravo!
Amazing story, well written piece of art. Extremely glad I bought this and well worth all the time I've invested into it. It was extremely hard to put it down I had to finish listening to it. It was just that good, I couldn't put it down.
"Great Take on Macbeth"
I loved this version of Macbeth! I read the authors' version of Hamlet and thought it was awesome.
Avid reader with an inability to sit still... thank God for Audible :)
"A new twist on an old tale"
Although this plot is one of the oldest on record, and the play a classic, these authors have presented a story that is at once fresh, gritty, dark, and thought provoking.
And, the performance was magnificent!!
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* BRAND NEW 1.6 XBox. (Brand New, as in not the tiniest scratch, not used DVD drive, everything shiny and new) Modded wih X3 (On/Off for Live), Brand New 160 Gig 7200rpm 8MB cache WD HD, Blue LEDs Everywhere includding behind custom clear jewel and 80mm fan, cables, original box, papers, the works. If you don't like Blue LEDs, I can customize another Brand New 1.6 however you like. More info below on xbox, if you really want pics, I can... but basically it is a Brand new xbox with LEDs, we all know what those look like
- Has thermals cleaned and replaced with Arctic Silver compound.
- ATA cable replaced with ATA133 custom cable.
- 80mm Blue LED fan Upgrade.
- Power/Reset switch modded to 7000mcd Blue/Red/Purple LEDs.
- Blue LEDs in controller Ports.
- Brand New Samsung drive.
- Brand New 250 Gig Western Digital 7200RPM 8MB Cache Upgrade.
- Custom Laser Cut Cleared Jewel with Blue LEDs around jewel.
- Super Aladdin Live modchip and 1.6 LPC rebuilt.
- All LEDs in this xbox are 3mm hyper 7000mcd LEDs and very sleek.
That's it I think. Basically this is a Brand New Xbox In Boxes modded up all purty and ready to go. Feel free to send an offer with funds or maybe on trade, depending on what you have. Thanks.
* 2x Pre-Played XBoxes. Used, in good condition, ALL are premodded with Aladdin Advanced XT Lites or Super Aladdin Lives. On/Off modchip for xbox live. Below are pics of a couple of the Preplays I have done in the past... One has 10k mcd white LEDs, with White in in controller ports, Reset Button changed to UV & White, 4 white LEDs in 12v modded fan in back, 8 White LEDs in top under custom Laser Cut jewel. The other is the same, but with Red 7000mcd LEDs. I can custom do anything close to these with different colored LEDs or different Laser Cut Jewels. I can put in whatever size hard drive you want depending on funds or trades. Below the pics is a list of standard mods I perform on all premods and things I can add as well.
White has a laser cut jewel that says mod inside like an intel logo and the red has a laser cut jewel that has xbox written with flames coming off it.
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- Thermals cleaned and replaced with Arctic Silver compound.
- ATA cable replaced with ATA133 custom cable (Optional).
- Custom 80mm Fan Upgrade with choice of LED Color (Optional).
- Power/Reset switch modded to your choice of LED Colors (Optional).
- LEDs in controller Ports with your choice of LED Colors (Optional).
- Choice of Pot Tweaked Thompson, Pot Tweaked Phillips or Samsung drive.
- Hard Drive sizes: Stock, what I have on hand, or your choice of new drive from store.
- Custom Laser Cut Cleared Jewels with your choice of LED Colors around jewel (Optional).
- LEDs mounted anywhere else you would like for custom lighting of choice.
- Current LED Colors on hand: Blue, Red, UV, Amber, White. Anything else, Ask.
- Anything else custom in mind, just ask.
On Xbox Premods. (Any of the Xboxes can be altered to meet your needs, for example, smaller or larger hard drives, LEDs, any other mods, depending on your Funds or Trades... if you are looking for any certain Xbox parts just ask, I have extras.)
* PC Parts, Etc.
I have a LOT of PC parts at all times as that is what I used to BST. I will have to put together a list later, although that will take time. For now, if you are looking for anything just ask as I may have it. Here are a couple things off the top of my head:
- 2 AMD Athlon 64 CPU/MB combos available. The motherboards are Asus K8vSE and are loaded with features. One of the combos has 2.2GHZ Athlon64 3200+ and the other has Athlon 64 2.0GHZ 3000+ and is fitted in a brand new black Soyo case that comes with KB/Opti mouse and speakers... or I can swap parts around.
- A few Radeons, 8500 64MB and 128MB. A Geforce 3 Ti200 128MB excellent card.
- 5 Port USB 2.0 Cards (NEC)
- Promise TX2 ATA100 PCI Controllers, A LOT of them.
- Soyo KT400 Dragon Black motherboard in box etc.
- About 8 other Athlon XP motherboards/CPUs, just ask.
I have plenty of other PC parts, so if you are looking for anything else, just ask. A couple Shuttle cases as well. I also have DVD burners or just CD burners etc. etc. etc. If you really want pictures of any of the above, feel free to ask.
And for anyone into the Arcade Cabinet scene. I have 4 Japanese Sit-down cabinets that are made of Fiberglass and sheet metal rather than press wood like American cabs. They all have 29" rotatable monitors except one, which has a 41" VGA projection. I also have a very nice refurbished cocktail cabinet that I put a 21" High grade 1600x1200 Kiosk monitor into. They all have quite updated PCs in them, well... for emulation anyway. Lowest being Athlon XP 1800+ 256MB 80Gig, Geforce. There are some very outdated pictures at the main website:
I say outdated as everything has been worked on since those pics from smoked Lexan control panels with neons under, to Amps with subwoofers, and smoke discoloration painted up to make all cabs look newer. I will try and get some updated pics on them soon. There are way too many things to list on the arcade cabinets and if not a sale, then trade, would take some serious trading, but feel free to ask questions on them or shoot me an offer.
* Game Cube Games - Mario Cart, Zelda Wind Waker, Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes. Any others, just ask, I may want it.
* Broken Xboxes of course Just please be honest with what is wrong with it and we can work out a price.
* Newer Vid Card ATI X800, X800 XT or something close.
* Anything Cool Electronics Wise, PC, gaming, whatever... ask, I may want it
That's about it for now. I will try and update this BST as time goes. Thank you VERY much for viewing. You can always email me or get a hold of me with one of the MSG apps below.
* AIM = madsmurf22
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I am logged in 24/7 usually, but not always around or partake in that whole sleep thing every once in a while. You can leave a MSG and I will get back to you as soon as I am back if you are still logged in as well.
On Sales & Trades, for refs, I have 100+ Ebay Pos with no Negative or Neutral at all. And on Paypal, I have 650+ verified sales that you can check before sending any payment anytime. A well established Paypal account usually gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling when sending money, so you should feel secure knowing that I will not take your cash and run Otherwise, I have already bought/sold/traded things here and there from people here in BST a few of which have left feedback on this very BST.
Ebay Feedback, Click Here.
On trades we can secure a cross trade via payment on both sides of Paypal if you wish. In other words, we both send funds in paypal for each others item. That is the way I have always done it in the past and have not had any problems. I have secured some large trades this way as some feedback on this BST says.
Edited by madsmurf, 30 November 2004 - 11:05 PM.


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Please click on the climb from the dropdown list
Rockfax Description
Piles trouble on trouble when Knock Yourself Out! heads for safety! From below the thin crack on Knock Yourself Out! trend left up the steep wall to a position under the highest roof. Pull rightwards through this and finish up the wall trending right. © Rockfax
FA. Neil Gresham 7.04 15/Jul/2004


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Discover the books read recently by social media pros and the key takeaways they had to help improve their social media marketing.
Great list just purchased 5 of them on Amazon, now if I only had the time to actually READ anymore (lol). I buy the book because having a book laying aournd staring at me with those "read me now" eyes makes me more guilty than injecting something else I'll never open into my Kindle or iPad.