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Complaint Review: Winco
WincoBarger Road Eugene, Oregon United States of America
Winco Infrequently, but consistently sells some below par produce Eugene, Oregon
*Consumer Suggestion: Where to buy produce in Eugene
*Consumer Comment: Here is an idea..
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I have had the same experience with dark cherries priced at $4.50 a lb which after getting home found that quite a large number had brown rotted sections in them that were not easy to spot inside the bag at the store. I bought 2.5 lbs at a cost of at $11 only to not be able to eat most of them. A couple days later. the usually much higher priced Fred Myers had them 50 cents a lb less and were very good quality. This is not the first time i have also had problems with Winco cherries. Other probelms have been pears that do not ripen but rot with big brown sections, rotted celery, rotted garlic cloves, rotted plums, rotted onions.
Now on to the meat dept, I have bought pork loin on a few different occasions that looked great in the package but once I got it home, it was brown underneath where it was not visible. It smelled like it was spoiling. This has also been the case with cuts of beef like round steak and london broil. The taste is off after its cooked too.
Now on to dairy, the packaged mozzarella molded only after a few days on at least 3 occasions.
Another complaint was that on a week day evening, 7 PM the meat manager decided to pull all the meat off the shelves to do the monthly or weekly (not sure which) sanitary cleaning. It was a big inconvenience and I have never seen them do this during the height of the shopping time for many people at any other food store. This is something that would be done very early in the morning or later at night for most stores. When I expressed the inconvenience since i could not shop for what I wanted, the manager seemed to care less and couldn't relate to the fact that other stores don't do this to their customers. After my bad experiences with poor quality meats, and this incidence, I mostly get my deals at Costco which has far higher quality at the same price or lower. This is increasingly the case for fruit and veggie produce as well.
I'm beginning to limited my purchases to mostly non-perishable purchases, ie, canned, or frozen brand name products.
Lastly, the workers in the produce area act like they dont want shoppers be "getting in their way" when they are unloading produce. Sure i understand that they have a hard job and have a lot to do but surely they can be accommodating at the same time for people to have access to what they are selling by being courteous enough to "share" the area with others. After all that is how their salary is being paid, by the shoppers. What are we supposed to go to another area and keep checking back when they 'allow" access? Nice way to shop huh.
If you feel like your not going to be able to get the selection you came for, over time you will not go back, because you dont want a more stressful, rude shopping experience. I was not being rude or shoving my way in get to the food, but they didn't show any courtesy or make me feel like I could "get in" to get any of it.
The management is awful in not training the workers at Winco to be polite and courteous as I've seen especially at Safeway or even Walmart for that matter. WalMart workers are paid notoriously low wages, and I'm sure even lower than Winco wages since the latter is "employee owned", but the WalMart people have been the nicest, kindest and most helpful in comparison.
Winco get your act together, you have a lot of potential for being a great store, and stop ripping off the customer with poor quality foods that appears otherwise!
This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 09/07/2010 03:29 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Winco/Eugene-Oregon-/Winco-Infrequently-but-consistently-sells-some-below-par-produce-Eugene-Oregon-638466. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.
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#1 Consumer Suggestion
Where to buy produce in Eugene
AUTHOR: Mr o - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, January 09, 2012POSTED: Monday, January 09, 2012
First, yearly: Market of Choice should be your first choice for produce. Followed by Fred Meyers. MoC has high standards and often prices to go with it. Fred Meyers typically passes Safeway & Albertsons but locations vary! Shop around and don't come crying to the Internet when your cherries aren't the way you like them.
Now, seasonally! This is Eugene. Farmers markets downtown in the summer, ThornHill and Lone Pine up River Rd, and little places on every end of town for fruits, veggies, and nuts. There is even a seasonal produce delivery service here if you don't have a car.
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SUBMITTED: Tuesday, September 07, 2010POSTED: Tuesday, September 07, 2010
If every other store in town is better than Winco..then go to the other stores.
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Complaint Review: DVD Store
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DVD Donkey. Recieved dvd that would not play. Took my $105. Winnipeg Manitoba
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When I did recieve the other set some of them were cracked and others would not even play. When the ones that did play came on the first thing you saw was that they were recorded on Tivo.
I contacted them to get a return authorization number and they gave me so much runaround that I told them I just wanted a refund. I was told that they would give me a refund on the dvd set but not the shipping. I would still be out $36.00 so I agreed because that was better than $105. I am still waiting on that refund.
When I did get someone else on the phone I was told they were processing my refund. I have since tried to call them numerous times and emailed them but I get nothing in return.
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"I never used to believe in fate. I used to think you make your own life and then you call it fate. That's why I call it irony."
- http://europe.newsweek.com/young-frankensteins-memoir-114905
"Wilder was raised Jewish, but held only the Golden Rule as his philosophy. He described himself as a "Jewish-Buddhist-Atheist" in an interview published in 2005" - wikipedia]]>
"Who is the evil genius who first convinced the world that being able to honestly say that 'Some of my best friends are Black' is not an adequate defense against the charge of racism toward Black people?" - SH
That an intellectual and public commentator who routinely deals with the subject of racism and discrimination of all kinds would ask this is a disgrace. He just showed he doesn't have a single hint of understanding of what racism is and how subtly it can creep.
Worse, he also added this gem:
"Racism is the endorsement of norms that support that bias. It's a person's understanding that he's biased and his further claim that he's happy to be that way, because he believes that society shouldn't correct for such biases, because they're good, because white people really are better than black people. He's someone who wants society to be unfair based on the color of a person's skin" -SH
In other words, racism is a word limited to people who foam at the mouth when they see a black guy. It concerns strictly hollywoodian displays of hatred like these sadistic slavers who seemed to be perversely getting off from whipping their slaves. If I don't consciously intend to prevent black people from being treated equal, there can't be any racism in me. I can't have prejudices towards them. Now let's talk about black-on-black crime (No joke, Harris actually ventured there.. he, Sam Harris, actually decided to give credence to this whole "but… but… what about black-on-black crime?" rhetoric).
Hell.. this piece actually shines a pretty sad light on much of Harris' past work. I always suspected he had such simplistic notions about discrimination in his head. I mean.. his whole deal about consistently rationaliziong the use of discriminatory measures against muslims (because it only makes sense!) were always a bit suspicious. But now it's clear. He's admitted it He does have an understanding of ethnic discrimination that competes with that of a 2nd grader. This is truly laughable. Now I really do feel like going back to re-read The End of Faith, this time for the good laughs…]]>
I think a Shakespearean insults list would be nice to draw from, I had a trawl through and found some crackers! Well they cracked me up anyway.
Here is a small sample just to give one the general idea.
"I desire we may be better strangers."
"More of your conversation would infect my brain."
"Tempt not too much the hatred of my spirit, for I am sick when I do look on thee."
Or create thy own by choosing and combining a word from each of the three columns below, maybe prefaced with "Thou" would work…
Column 1 Column 2 Column 3
artless base-court apple-john
bawdy bat-fowling baggage
beslubbering beef-witted barnacle
bootless beetle-headed bladder
churlish boil-brained boar-pig
cockered clapper-clawed bugbear
clouted clay-brained bum-bailey
craven common-kissing canker-blossom
currish crook-pated clack-dish
dankish dismal-dreaming clotpole
dissembling dizzy-eyed coxcomb
droning doghearted codpiece
errant dread-bolted death-token
Feel free to try a few.
This invite will last forever! Come in and chat with other people. The forum is great, but nothing beats live chat for the spread of ideas.]]>
Ad-hominem is certainly a logical fallacy so it is an example of a case where our actual behavior diverges from the rule of logic but that does not necessarily make it irrational. I think the use of ad-hominem argumentation is rational in a world where we have very limited access to information. Let's say I want to form an opinion about the best policy to pursue in Syria. How would I go about making an informed decision about Syria?
Well, I could go to Syria myself and gather information. I could spend years interviewing the people, travelling the country, etc. but this would be extremely time consuming and there would still be information that I would not have access to (I would almost certainly not be invited to listen in on conversations between Assad and the members of his regime, for example).
I could also read books on the subject but here I run into a problem. If I travel to Syria myself I know I can trust the information I gather because I can trust my own eyes but when I am reading a book how do I know that the information I am getting is accurate? I cannot compare it to the original. When deciding what books to read (or articles) and what books to dismiss I need to make some decisions about who is trustworthy and who is not.
The same applies on a forum like this. People often make posts on a forum like this where they provide information that I have no easy way of checking for its accuracy. So, I need to make some decisions about who to trust, what information to accept, what information to treat as suspicious, and what information to dismiss entirely.
I think I probably follow lots of semi-conscious and unconscious rules when making a decision like this. If people seem very belligerent in expressing their views, or they cling intensely to one side of the political spectrum, I tend not to trust them. If someone has a subtle view that is not easily categorized I am more likely to trust them. Tone is quite important here.
However, another way I can reach a decision is: if someone who I already trust attacks the trustworthiness of someone I have not made a decision about yet (i.e. they make an ad-hominem argument). Absent any other information, this seems to me to be a perfectly reasonable way to decide who to trust.
I think "logical knock-down arguments" generally fail to sway us on their own because whether an argument is "logical" or not is not the most important question we face when attempting to reach a decision about something. The most important question we face is: Can I trust the information I am getting? and the personal characteristics of the person presenting the information absolutely is relevant to that question.
This is why the best way to win an argument is not to provide some knock-down argument but to convince people that the person you are arguing with is not trustworthy (and any signs that a person gives off that they are trustworthy or untrustworthy is generally more important to me than the content of their argument). So, unless we can find another solution to this problem, (i.e. an objective way to determine what information we should trust), I think ad-hominem is here to stay, and I think it serves a necessary function.
...What are your favourite Sam Harris stand alone sentences? I mean the ones that would look great on a T-shirt. Ones that made you smile.
I'll start:
"In November, you will be electing a president, not an emperor of the world."
I've been considering having the limbs over the house cut back and the umbrella trimmed up, and I also have a diseased Florida Holley tree in the side lawn that needs to be completely taken down and the stump ground. I called a local tree service, and arranged to meet with the proprieter this afternoon at 4:00. He wasn't quite sure of my address, so I was standing in the front waiting when he drove up.
We walked through the yard and talked about the work I needed done, discussed it in detail so that he had a good understanding of the finished result I was after. Once we agreed on the scope of the work to be done, he quoted a price, and it seemed quite reasonable. I said, "That sounds fair," and we shook on it. We walked back to his truck to fill out a propasal for me to sign.
He opened the driver's door, and asked his wife, who was riding with him, to fill out a proposal for the work to be done, I spelled my name for her, and he said that his usual practice was to get half up front, and the balance when I was satisfied with the work. I said I'd get my checkbook and be right back.
When I returned with my checkbook, he was standing to the side with the driver's door still open, and I couldn't help noticing a pistol in the door compartment of the truck. It was holstered with a strap snapped over the hammer, and I could only see the grip and enough of the pistol to see that it was a revolver, and guessed it to be a .357. They're quite popular in this neck of the woods.
He was talking with his secretary over the phone about when he would be able to book the work, and all of next week was full, but the following Monday was open, so we agreed on that date. He said that he would be out of the country that week and the next, but he would bring his #1 man by and show him what was to be done, and he assured me that his #1 would get the job done to my satisfaction, but he would be down in Nicaragua building a church.
There is a surprising number of folks in my home town that use their vacations for mission work in South America. They build churches that also serve as schools, and throughout the rest of the year they raise money through charity auctions and other events to get supplies for the schools/churches.
When he handed the proposal over for me to sign, he had reduced the price by $100. I wrote a check for half, we shook again, and he got in his truck and drove off.
And I'd be willing to bet (if I were a betting man) that he'll vote for Trump.]]>
The idea here is for this to become the go-to topic for those terms that are eluding you.
For example:
Seems as if there's a term in psychology for the presumption of agreement—comes from egocentrism and living most of one's life sheltered from The Others (from another forum):
[Timothy42B] I was at a holiday dinner in mixed company recently. One of the women made an outrageously over the top right wing comment, 100% certain we would all agree with her. (most people were from her church) She had literally no clue it was a mixed crowd but most were more moderate than she and some quite liberal. An awkward silence ensued (which she didn't notice.) So I said, "and then an awkward silence ensued." (can't help myself) and changed the subject. Social events don't always do well with politics anyway.


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That baaing sound of writers debating
Andrew Bolt
–, Thursday, May, 21, 2009, (12:07am)
The Sydney Writers' Festival holds an ABC-style "debate" on global warming:
David Spratt, co-author of Climate Code Red, Dr Sharon Beder, author of Global Spin: The Corporate Assault on Environmentalism, and Deltoid science blogger Tim Lambert discuss the state of the climate change debate today with Overland editor Jeff Sparrow.
Are the big polluters changing their ways or simply greening their public image? Who are the main climate denialists? What kind of action do we need, and how close are we to achieving it?
That's a "debate"? RWDB checks the biogs of the speakers. Not one is a climate scientist, not one is the author of the biggest-selling book this year on global warming, and not one is outside that narrow spectrum of opinion ranging from Marxist to green zealot.
Why are these people so very, very scared of a debate? Is it that they worry they'd lose?
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I attended the book launch in Brisbane Tuesday night for Heaven+Earth.
Prof Ian Plimer is champing at the bit to debate Tim Flannery.
But I think he should wait until his voice recovers from his book promotion trip!
Thu 21 May 09 (01:26am)
They're terrified of losing.
And they justify the whitewash by hinting that anyone who doesn't believe in global warming is either in the pay of 'Big Oil' or mentally disturbed.
In my profession (architecture [a conservative architect—hah! very rare indeed]), we're bombarded with the fad of ESD (Environmentally Sustainable Design) and a certain star rating system that applies to buildings that adhere to a lengthy set of guidelines to show that they meet a whole range of measures that prove that they will have a minimal impact on the environment.
The whole schamozzle reminds me very much of how 'Quality Assurance' was inflicted upon the profession more than a decade ago.
Back then, the story was that we all had to be 'Quality Assured' or else!
But we were told not to worry because it would cost bugger all, take very little extra time, involve minimal paperwork and it would improve how our business operated like nothing else.
Some firms spent tens of thousands of dollars bringing in specialist consultants and auditors to have their business quality assured rated. The firm I was working in at that time had it down on their 'To Do List' - for about 4 years and, in the end, did nothing.
Guess what? Nobody - but NOBODY - talks about Quality Assurance in the profession now. Why? Because it was a gigantic con that cost a fortune to implement and maintain and drained resources so much that productive people spent their lives doing little more than shuffling paper around.
ESD and that star rating system will end the same way.
For now only governments can really afford to implement it (and then, some depts. start off all hairy-chested about it until they realise what it all costs. I have personal experience with this).
I give it about another decade than it's off with QA and the dodo for ESD.
Sad thing is that it will probably be overtaken by something worse.
Thu 21 May 09 (01:51am)
Thu 21 May 09 (08:59am)
I couldn't agree more with you about QA. At my last place of employment it came down to a visit from the inspector four times a year, all scheduled and pre-announced so we had time to get everything neat and cover the bits of chaos that couldn't be dealt with.
As they say in the Army - WOFTAM.
Thu 21 May 09 (10:35am)
It's OT re AB's topic here, but I should add that the QA principle has reportedly had a huge influence in the manufacturing industry - particularly in Japan in the 60s and 70s.
Over there, they wholeheartedly adopted it and followed closely the QA theories of a number of American specialists.
It's credited with helping to transform Japanese industry from producing mediocre and unreliable products to those of the extreme high quality we see today.
So, yes, QA is a great system to adopt where you actually produce something material and can use it to focus on processes to eliminate particular faults, but as far as various service orientated professions goes, it's a total dud and a money spinner for the carpetbaggers with something useless to sell.
They're scuttling hither and thither this way and that but always away from the light.
Thu 21 May 09 (01:55am)
Thu 21 May 09 (10:48am)
Nah - it's similar to the dynamic that sees real scientists refuse to debate creationsists about evolution.
The real scientists have learned that the creationists are far too adept at dishonest argument, deliberate obfuscation and plainly unscientific appeals to emotion for the debate to have any purpose or merit.
Plimer's book has already been widely discredited by those who actually understand what they're talking about. Including him in a debate about climate change would be like including Norma Khouri in a debate about honor killings.
Thu 21 May 09 (01:26pm)
Simon, come clean, have you read Plimers book??
There are plenty of scientists who have supported Plimers book, but I would expect you to ignore that.
Thu 21 May 09 (05:04pm)
Simon, you have this fixation about creation V evolution, most of us could not give a stuff, your debate is all about who is right and who is wrong, and you must be crazy if you can prove one or the other, they are all theories. Even if theory of evolution could be proven to be correct, it will have no impact whatsoever on any of us. I was amused just yesterday when this skeleton was discovered and we are told we are descendants of this monkey skeleton. No wonder there is a saying "You are being made a monkey off".
You've written "debate" twice as if it's a quote. The page you link to has this listed as a forum, not a debate. Am I missing something?
Thu 21 May 09 (02:08am)
Thu 21 May 09 (08:15am)
Yes.Yes you are.
Thu 21 May 09 (09:52am)
Dan R, it would not be the first time you have missed something!
Thu 21 May 09 (11:03am)
In fairness, it's not actually purporting to be a debate - it's a discussion about the debate. No doubt it will be a dismal waste of time, but the charge of false advertising at least doesn't really stick.
Thu 21 May 09 (02:19am)
Ever soon a flock of galahs squabbling over a sorghum paddock, fighting for the juciest grain. Doesn't matter if they have nipped 5 or 6 heads of grain off, always the one their mate has is better.
Well being bereft of ideas and linked by a single celled thought process, all these writing galahs can do is squabble over and idea they have been given. It keeps them occupied until another idea plague strikes.
Thu 21 May 09 (03:04am)
That's so funny.
Lambert can find time to blog and participate in political discussion at writers' festivals but can't find the time to update the research projects page at his place of employment, which was last modified in August 1999.
From Beck's blog.
And Sparrow wrote the most amazing best seller.
" Communism a Love Story" (I kid you not), currently sitting at around 4 million th most popular book on Amazon
Thu 21 May 09 (03:27am)
Thu 21 May 09 (10:27am)
Jeff Sparrow on the death of the monster Saddam Hussein:
"Be assured, you will sink into the generous pool of public feeling
as gently as a leaf — accept your role, feel chosen.
You are this evening's headlines. Come, my love."- quoted in the Age (January 2007)
Thu 21 May 09 (04:23am)
Thu 21 May 09 (09:20am)
That looks most interesting. But there seems to be a major hurdle....the battery is made largely of the C-word chemical element, which we now know, thanks to the efforts of green science, to be a highly dangerous pollutant, at least in the dioxide compound form.
We can expect vocal opposition from one or more of the many green groups devoted to the salvation of gaia.
Thu 21 May 09 (09:55am)
Dan R, I have already read about it and it could be great news together with investment in nuclear power and also GM crops to rid the world of famine and use less arable land.
Ouch. But they're totally wrong right? They have to be.
Afterall, Bolt has clearly stated that AGW is a "pagan cult", a "neo-pagan gospel", the "giddiest ideology of all" and a "great sham". Lucky for the globe, right-wing contrarian opinion journalists trump scientists every time.
Thu 21 May 09 (04:28am)
Thu 21 May 09 (08:11am)
Ouch? Hardly.
"To reach their conclusions, the MIT team used computer simulations that took world economic activity as well as climate processes into account, they said in a statement."
Modelling, shmodelling. If Rupert Murdoch said that economists were invented to make weather forecasters look good, then climate forecasters were invented to make economists look good. They've run a computer program, DanR, then tried to come up with reasons why everything hasn't worked out as predicted up until now.
"Earlier climate warming may also have been masked by the global cooling effect of 20th-century volcanoes and by the emission of soot, which can add to warming, the scientists said in a statement."
I suppose when you don't have empirical evidence on your side, excuses are all you can come up with.
Thu 21 May 09 (08:18am)
Think as mince. Anothere rostered ALP drone-troll. This site draws them as moths to a light. Don't burn your wings leftard puppet.
Thu 21 May 09 (08:46am)
Dan R,
Are you for real? "Economic modelling" tells us that global warming will be worse! By almost 10 degrees by 2100! What's happenned, the scientific models don't give the answers the believers want anymore?
And how much faith do you place in economic models, they miserably failed for the Autsralian Treasury in the last twelve months? I challenge you to restate the predicted deficit in the 2008 budget, then what actually happened. That will give you some idea of economic modelling and it's validity.
Thu 21 May 09 (09:40am)
DR....you are proof that some people can live in a vacuum...vacuous comments dribble endlessly from you…
Thu 21 May 09 (10:56am)
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Global warming's effects this century could be twice as extreme as estimated just six years ago, scientists reported on Tuesday.
But then again, they (Global warming's effects) may not.
Panic over!
Thu 21 May 09 (11:26am)
Soundslike more dodgy modelling to me Dan R.
Thu 21 May 09 (11:49am)
I thought that the MIT had finally found the 'smoking gun'! That the article would report an observed phenomema that could not be reasonably explained except by the increase of certain man-made gases in the atmosphere.
No, it didn't report that? It only reported "Look we have a new computer game to scare you with!"?
Sorry, no ouch there!
Thu 21 May 09 (12:38pm)
"Global warming's effects this century could be twice as extreme as estimated just six years ago, scientists reported on Tuesday."
Yes, Dan R and they could be anything else as well.
Please get back to us when some credible scientists come up with an actual prediction of adverse climate outcomes directly caused by human CO2 emissions.
Not one is a climate scientist
And you are....?
Thu 21 May 09 (05:46am)
Thu 21 May 09 (07:10am)
Commo nasho,
And you are....? If the predicted ice age materialises you will be apologising and performing self immolation as an act of contrition, to live up to your lofty standards?
Thu 21 May 09 (09:57am)
1735099, another immensely profound post! Where next?
Thu 21 May 09 (11:33am)
Runs a successful blog site
Do you?
Next you'll insist that no one can report on what the PM says, unless he is a PM him/herself.
Thu 21 May 09 (06:07pm)
In the olde days a real "Climate Scientist" was a person who studied the atmosphere & when qualified, was known as a Meteorologist.
Nowadays, anyone with a degree in some field even if remotely connected to "science" including "Social Scientists" are able to rebadge themselves as "climate Scientists".
And speaking of Social Scientists.
You'll be happy to know, your beloved IPCC is stuffed to the gills with such "scocial scientists" who review & massage all the reports to fit their world view about man made climate change.
From TB's
'Highlights from change enthusiast Joe Biden's Monday commencement speech at Wake Forest University:
There's not a single issue on this President's plate that will not yield a change — just merely by ignoring it, it will change …
Folks, we're either going to fundamentally change the course of history, or fail the generations that come after us, because change will occur. Non-action is action, unlike most generations …
But today, with all the difficulties you face, you graduated into a moment where your opportunities are much greater. And your charge is not to restore anything but to make anew'
Has this person been drug tested?
Thu 21 May 09 (07:05am)
Thu 21 May 09 (08:16am)
I must have missed all the media scorn labelling this guy an idiot etc.
The reason is simple.
The anti-AGW are in the minority and as such are not representative of the community.
Flat Earthers, and expanding Earth theorist never get on these type of panels either. Why ? Because like anti-AGWer's there nutcases !!!
Thu 21 May 09 (08:44am)
Thu 21 May 09 (09:40am)
Psssst. As I pointed out yesterday:
Hey "Hoedown Joe": the trademark gratuitous space between your final word and your exclamation point is what my Field Guide to Moonbats and Sockpuppets calls a "tell."
Assuming that everyone else is as stupid as you would appear to be is a mistake.
Thu 21 May 09 (10:04am)
Hoedown Joe, if you are right, I proudly belong to a minority. It is however an indictment of our education system if you represent the majority.
Thu 21 May 09 (01:51pm)
Hoedown Joe wrote :
'The reason is simple.
The anti-AGW are in the minority and as such are not representative of the community.'
I do wish you would think before you post. Doctors and nurses are a minority in a community. Paridigm breakers are a minority. Crikey - you're a minority of one.
Your assertion would be better if you substantiated it with evidence.
Thu 21 May 09 (06:12pm)
As opposed to you and the IPPC Junkscience Marxist Lysenkoists.
Perhaps you should go back to reading IPCC inspired AGW Global Warming texts over wheat fields.
Lysenko (Stalins' numero Uno'scientist) 'proved' that reading texts from Marx & Stalin increased crop yield by 500%.
Who are the main climate denialists?
WTF is a "climate denialist"?!?
Thu 21 May 09 (09:31am)
Thu 21 May 09 (11:29am)
Who are the main climate denialists?
I'll bet you crack it for a mention at this gab fest Andrew, if they were fair dinkum on doining some good for the country they should actualy invite you.
Who are the main climate denialists?
WTF is a "climate denialist"?!?
Thu 21 May 09 (09:32am)
Thu 21 May 09 (11:05am)
Climate denialist: Contemporary vernacular for denying a request by climate. Anything else doesn't make sense really.
What a shameful disgrace it is that the Sydney Writers' Festival is hosting a 'debate' whereby global warming believers are going to take on......... other global warming believers! It's the most hopelessly biased 'debate' I've ever heard of. How despicable it is that when they are doing this they will, of course, be emitting copious quantities of CO2 and be joining the 'big polluters' who must be stopped! Surely, breathing less and not engaging in any kind of 'heated' debate would help the planet no end? Why are taxpayers being asked to fund this tripe? I can't wait until I've made my own, "Proud to be a Global Warming Denialist" t-Shirt.
BTW: I went to school with Simon Sellars, the Marxist you astutely refer to. He always came across as someone who had no time for anyone who questioned his yuppie/greenie/socialist/everyone sucks except me philosophy.
Thu 21 May 09 (10:00am)
Why are these people so very, very scared of a debate? Is it that they worry they'd lose?
Good to see Tim Lambert's name mentioned.
Remember David Evans and the ACSC's famous furphy of the "hot spot" (see here) which he thoroughly debunked.
Good to see him still providing the evidence for the scientific failure of Plimer and the like.
Thu 21 May 09 (10:59am)
Thu 21 May 09 (03:02pm)
Tim Lambert - that would be the academic who if his University web-page is correct, has not authored a journal publication for the last five years. And has only five in the last decade, not a solitary one as sole, principal or or even joint author. None of them even slightly relevant to climate science. One of them however is quite interesting, it appears to have been published by a comma in 2005.
He is a windbag and a bore and should just be ignored.
Thu 21 May 09 (05:38pm)
The hot spot as evidence for increased GHG warming was proposed by IPCC AR4, not by Evans. So Tim Lambert must have thoroughly debunked the IPCC.
I've been following the bluster about Plimer's book but have not seen any 'evidence for scientific failure'. Must have missed something. So sillyfilly (so apt) please point us to this evidence.
Fri 22 May 09 (12:18am)
You are just one of those hollow men - sorry, hollow persons, aren't you?
Another recent example - Al Gore refusing to debate with Christopher Monckton.
Gore knew he did not stand a chance. Terrified. He then went on to give a disgraceful performance in the House Committee.
Thu 21 May 09 (11:10am)
"Why are these people so very, very scared of a debate? Is it that they worry they'd lose?"
Whether it is a debate on global warming and/or any controversial subject, authors like those mentioned by you, are not frightened of losing the debate but very frightened of losing their rights to be published.
They do not want to receive from their agent the following:
"We do not feel sufficiently confident that we could place your work with a publisher. This is a very subjective business and another agency or publisher may well disagree."
Until all writers can get reasonable protection to say it as they see it, in my opinion there will never be the valuable measure of debates your are seeking.
Rose C Taylor
Melton West
Thu 21 May 09 (02:33pm)
Thu 21 May 09 (03:58pm)
Global warmers are great at gabfests but useless at invention and productivety they are frustrated and screaming for sceptics to invent something as efficient as Nuclear Energy but driven by wind, as their wind power inventions keep failing to deliver their predicted energy output.
Thu 21 May 09 (05:48pm)
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This article explains how to customize IBM® Rational Team Concert™ for use beyond the traditional application lifecycle management. It starts with a sample scenario — to build an application to track web-based opportunities — to show Rational Team Concert administrators how to create a new work item type, customize the work item type (add custom attributes, update the editor presentation for those attributes, and configure required attributes) and test the work item type. It includes links to Resources that further describe how to create new work items, workflows, and editor presentations.
Before you start
To follow this article, you need to have access to a Rational Team Concert Version 4.x server with an appropriate project area created. If you have not already purchased and installed Rational Team Concert or are not currently using Rational Team Concert on the cloud, you can download an evaluation version from Jazz.net. Or, if you do not want to download and install Rational Team Concert on your local machine, you can try it online in a sandbox on Jazz.net. For more information on the evaluation version or sandbox options from Jazz.net, see the links provided in Resources.
Once you have access to a server, you will also need to have the Rational Team Concert client for the Eclipse IDE installed and a connection established to the appropriate repository for your server. Currently, certain customizations can only be performed using the Eclipse client and cannot be accomplished using the web client.
Sample use case: application to track opportunities
This article is based on the sample use case to create a web-based opportunity management tracking application. The end users of the application are primarily managers within a consulting services organization. An opportunity refers to potential consulting work for clients. The intent is for managers or consultants to create work items for new business opportunities as they arise. The ultimate goal is to provide visibility to the pipeline, track metrics around the demographics of the customer base, and understand what factors influence the outcome of winning or losing an opportunity. An added requirement is to foster an environment where employees at all levels of the organization can submit a business opportunity for consideration and be able to track the opportunity through the entire opportunity lifecycle.
The following sections explain how to:
- Create a new work item type.
- Customize the work item type:
- Add custom attributes.
- Update the editor presentation for those attributes.
- Configure required attributes.
- Test the work item type.
Create a new work item type
The first step to customize Rational Team Concert for your non-traditional needs is to create a new work item type. This can be accomplished using either the web client or the Eclipse client. For the opportunity management use case, name the new work item type
Opportunity with the ID
opportunity and category
opportunity – com.ibm.team.workitem.workItemType.opporunity, as shown in Figure 1.
Figure 1. Create the Opportunity work item type
If you do not intend to use any of the work item types provided by Rational Team Concert by default, you can delete them using the Remove option available in the Eclipse client, so that they will not appear in your work item menu selection.
It is necessary to set a workflow when defining your new work item type. If none of the existing workflows in Rational Team Concert fit, add a new workflow. Such is the case for opportunity management. Workflow states that are appropriate for an opportunity work item can be seen in Table 1. Actions and transitions between the states can be defined to suit your needs and can be as unconstrained or restrictive, according to your requirements.
Table 1. Opportunity management workflow
|This is the initial state of a new opportunity in Rational Team Concert. A prospect was found that could be a potential lead.
|The lead has been received but customer interest has not been checked.
|The team has confirmed that the offering or service is in our domain and an owner has been assigned.
|The owner has validated that the opportunity is consistent with our business mission and is a valid opportunity. The owner has identified the skills required and the potential revenue amount.
|The prospect deems our consulting organization to be on the list of potential vendors. We determine the opportunity is worth pursuing and we have resources available.
|Conditional Agreement
|We provided all information for the customer to make a decision.
|A consulting agreement has been completed. (The contract has been signed and the project has been staffed).
|No bid
|We decide not to bid.
|Customer did not pursue
|The customer is no longer looking for service, due to a change in the budget, the focus areas, or executive roles.
|Lost to competition
|The customer has chosen a competitor to address a specific need.
It is also necessary to set an editor presentation when defining your new work item type. A new editor presentation should be added for this purpose. For the opportunity management use case, a
com.ibm.team.workitem.editor.opportunity editor presentation is appropriate. If there is an existing editor presentation in Rational Team Concert that you would like to use as a model for your new editor presentation, you can use the Duplicate function available in the Eclipse client interface. See Resources for more information about duplicating the editor presentation.
Customize the new work item type
To customize your new work item, you need to add custom attributes. You can use the web or Eclipse client to add the new attributes. Some custom attributes that are appropriate for the opportunity management use case are shown in Table 2.
Table 2. Custom opportunity work item type attributes
|Identified By
|The person who identified the business opportunity
|Opportunity Amount
|The estimated revenue associated with the opportunity
|Skills Required
|String list
|The list of skills that are necessary to fulfill the staffing requirements
|Client Name
|Small String
|The name of the customer
|Client Email
|Medium String
|The email address for the primary client contact
|The quarter/year in which the project or opportunity is expected to begin
|High/Medium/Low – The likelihood that the project will come to fruition
|Next Action
|Large String
|What must be done next to progress the opportunity? Example: "setup meeting with client"
|Action Owner
|The person responsible for carrying out Next Action
|Action Target Date
|The date by which Next Action is expected to be completed
|Resources Assigned
|Contributor list
|The consultants assigned to work on the project or opportunity
|Reason For Outcome
|Medium String
|A brief explanation to support the end result of the opportunity, for example, "won – our experience far exceeds that of our competitors" or "lost due to price"
You will also likely want to repurpose several of the default attribute types for your new work item type. A few that can be repurposed for opportunity management are shown in Table 3.
Table 3.Default attributes used for opportunity work item type
|Medium HTML
|Rename Summary in the editor presentation to be
Opportunity name.
Note: In the query builder, this attribute will retain the name Summary.
|Owned By
|The person managing the opportunity
|Large HTML
|The description of the work to be performed
Once these attributes are created in your new work item type, you need to define presentations for them in your editor presentation.
These are the basic set of attributes necessary for opportunity management in Rational Team Concert. You can further customize your work item type with attributes that are appropriate for opportunity management within your organization, such as contract type, contract links, reviewers, reviewer notes, and so on. Guidance on creating additional attributes follows.
Select the attribute type
When determining the type for your new custom attributes, it may be easiest to think of how you would like these new attributes to appear in the user interface. For some attribute types, such as a String type attribute with a String or Text presentation, the appearance is easy to anticipate. For others, the tips in Figures 2 and 3 will be helpful.
Figure 2. Options for single selection
Figure 3. Options for multiple selections
Set the required attributes
Once the custom attributes are created, you may want to set particular attributes as required in certain workflow states. The validation for required attributes occurs at the time the work item is saved. If required attributes are not populated, Rational Team Concert prohibits the work item from being saved and will return an error to you. As of Version 184.108.40.206, this customization feature is available only in the Eclipse client.
Follow these steps to define the required attributes, as shown in Figure 4:
- Go to the Process Configuration tab
- Expand the Team Configuration section
- Select Operation Behavior
- Locate the Operations table and scroll down to the view the various operations
- Locate the Work Items operation
Figure 4. Required attributes: Steps 1-5
Steps 6-10 are illustrated in Figure 5.
- Select the icon in the Everyone column of the Save Work Item (server) row.
Note: When selected, the icon become highlighted in blue as shown in Figure 5.
- Scroll down to the Preconditions list and click the Add button. This generates an Add Preconditions popup window.
- Within the Add Preconditions popup, scroll down and locate the options for required fields: Required Attributes ForCondition, Required Attributes For Type and State, and so on.
- Select the precondition of your choice. In the opportunity management use case our required fields are based on the following precondition: Required Attributes for Type and State.
- Click OK.
Figure 5. Required attributes: Steps 6-10
Steps 11-13 are illustrated in Figure 6.
- Locate the Name field, which will populate with Required Attributes For Type and State. In this field enter a name for your precondition. In the screen shot the name highlighted is 02 Noticed which is the earliest stage in the Opportunity Management use case workflow.
- In our use case, the list of required attributes expands as the work item advances through the various stages of the work flow. Notice that the precondition names we used correspond to the stages of our work flow.
- Scroll down and locate the Category or Type / Attributes section and identify the work item for which you would like to define a required attribute. Click on the arrow to expand the contents of the work item type.
Note: In the opportunity management use case there were three types listed. You may find it necessary to hover over the choices to distinguish the types from one another. In this case we are working with the work item type for opportunity.
Figure 6. Required attributes: Steps 11-13
Steps 14-16 are illustrated in Figure 7.
- Scroll down to the appropriate type. Notice in the opportunity management use case the desired type is located as a subset called opportunity
- Highlight the type for which you would like to define required attributes. In the screen shot below we are working with the work flow stage 02 – Noticed.
- Click the Edit button to specify which fields will be required for this type.
Figure 7. Required attributes – steps 14-16
Steps 17-21 are illustrated in Figure 8.
- Select the required properties by placing a check mark next to the respective fields in the popup box.
- Click the OK button once all fields are specified.
- Click the Apply changes button.
- Click the Save button
This is critical. If you don't click Save you may lose your configuration changes. If you attempt to close the window without saving you will be prompted that your changes were not saved.
- Repeat steps 7-20 as needed until all required attributes are defined.
Note: When specifying required fields for stages in a workflow please keep in mind that required fields for each stage must be explicitly stated. Rational Team Concert does not assume that everything required in your first state is also required in your second state. You must specify the fields.
Figure 8. Required attributes - steps 17-20
Helpful hints for custom attributes
When creating and working with custom and required attributes, here are some helpful hints to consider.
- Delete and re-add a custom attribute type to change it: Once you have added a new custom attribute, you can choose to edit the attribute. However, you will not be able to change the attribute type when editing. If you need to change the type of the attribute, you will need to remove the attribute and then add a new custom attribute of the appropriate type.
- Use HTTP filtered value sets to define your values in XML: HTTP filtered value sets are useful when you are working with a large amount of data and you want to be able to update the values in the set outside of the Rational Team Concert environment. However, HTTP filtered value sets currently have a limit of 150 values. With XML that contains more than 150 values, the additional values for the attribute using the HTTP filtered value set will not be rendered by Rational Team Concert.
- Synchronize to reflect new fields: If new fields are added to your work item type, any existing work items of that type must be synchronized to reflect the new fields. Synchronization must be performed in the Eclipse client. As of Version 188.8.131.52, this feature is not available in the web client. For additional details on how to synchronize your work items, refer to the Rational Team Concert information centers in the Resources.
If your intention is to make the newly added field a required attribute, you must first synchronize all of the existing work items, as well as populate the attribute in each of the work items before making the field required. Otherwise, if you set the field to
required before synchronizing, Rational Team Concert will not add the new attribute to work items that are in states where the attribute is required.
- Use
Unassigned literalfor required attributes: When creating enumerations, one literal has to be declared as the default value. When working with required attributes, be sure to use the
Unassigned literalinstead of the
default literal. The unassigned literal makes it possible to configure the enumeration as a required attribute.
Test the new work item type
Test your new work item type by creating a new work item using both the Eclipse and web client interfaces to Rational Team Concert. If you removed all other work item types provided by default by Rational Team Concert as discussed in Create a new work item type, your new work item type will be the only type available for selection.
Verify that the work item is rendering as intended in both the Eclipse and web clients. Sections defined in the editor presentation will appear differently in the different clients, and so the presentation will look different in each of the clients. If the layout and attribute presentations are not as expected, you need to alter your editor presentation as needed, until the layout and all attributes are displayed as intended in both clients.
Once the presentation is correct, move your new work item through the workflow, and validate that attributes are required at the appropriate states in the workflow as configured in your required attributes settings.
Rational Team Concert provides features and capabilities out of the box to facilitate application lifecycle management. However, it is easy to customize Rational Team Concert for non-traditional uses as well, such as opportunity management. This article discussed how to create a new work item type, how to set the custom attributes, workflow, and editor presentation for this work item type, and how to define required attributes in the context of opportunity management. The information provided here can be used to customize Rational Team Concert for many other non-traditional uses.
After you have created and customized a new work item type, you can continue to customize Rational Team Concert for your non-traditional use by creating new queries and dashboards appropriate for your new work item type. For example, for opportunity management some appropriate queries include: opportunities that are currently being pursued, opportunities that are currently being pursued and require some specific skill, opportunities that were won, and opportunities that were lost. A custom dashboard with graphs showing comparisons of opportunities with specific required skills or graphs comparing the number of opportunities lost and won, for example, is also practical for this use case.
- Learn more about Customization of work items in Rational Team Concert (including information on value sets.)
- Explore this article series on advanced customization:
- Advanced customizations in Rational Team Concert project areas: Part 1. Create a custom work item in Rational Team Concert (developerWorks, August 2011)
- Advanced customizations in Rational Team Concert project areas: Part 2. Use role-based customizations for work items (includes duplicating an editor presentation) (developerWorks, September 2011)
- More about Rational Team Concert:
- Find Rational Team Concert articles and links to many other resources on IBM developerWorks, and check the product overview page, features and benefits, system requirements, and the user information center.
- Check the Rational Team Concert page on Jazz.net.
- Watch the Using Rational Team Concert in a globally distributed team webcast or a demonstration of the Dashboards and reports, or listen to the podcast about IBM Rational Team Concert and Jazz.
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