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Municipalities and school systems continue to attempt to address issues of discipline that have a negative impact on student learning; dilute the amount of time available to administrators to observe and support staff; and cost taxpayers money.
Unfortunately, we have allowed a society to develop in which basic constructs that once encouraged positive life habits are disappearing. Family strength, respect, work ethic and shame all have powerful roles in producing our young. How can these qualities be restored?
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conservative1 wrote on Feb 14, 2013 10:02 AM:
KITTY wrote on Feb 14, 2013 12:29 PM:
linda wrote on Feb 14, 2013 2:31 PM:
KITTY wrote on Feb 14, 2013 2:56 PM:
Sandy Socks wrote on Feb 14, 2013 2:57 PM:
The problem is there isn't the jobs available now that there were for our parents. Its a different world, a different economy and to question why the results (then and now) aren't the same just isn't fair
My father and my friend's fathers many without a high school education and some without a grammar school education were able to walk out their homes and into secure, middle class, factory jobs. If those men were alive now I can only guess what their future would be. Probably as bleak as many of our young men's are now. "
linda wrote on Feb 14, 2013 3:25 PM:
KITTY wrote on Feb 14, 2013 4:08 PM:
KITTY wrote on Feb 14, 2013 4:13 PM:
KITTY wrote on Feb 14, 2013 4:26 PM:
KITTY wrote on Feb 14, 2013 4:29 PM:
Tom Holzel wrote on Feb 14, 2013 5:48 PM:
william georgia wrote on Feb 14, 2013 5:54 PM:
al.cap wrote on Feb 14, 2013 6:33 PM:
there is no easy, one-size-fits-all answer. one could place blame on every facet of life, because it truly is a societal issue. welfare, government, businessmen, bankers, politicians, lazy kids, welfare queens, absentee fathers, the epa, the nra, k street, wall street, main street, big oil, big pharma, the big three, etc, etc. all have a hand in the problem, all have a stake in the solution. "
Brian wrote on Feb 14, 2013 6:52 PM:
conservative1 wrote on Feb 14, 2013 7:16 PM:
Sandy. My father as the eldest male left high school to help support his large family after his father died. He worked as a construction laborer. Eventually learning to operate equipment. He then enlisted in the military during WWII and honed his skills as a tank operator. When he got home, he used the GI Bill to finish High School. Then started his own construction business which supported our family. The problem is Americans are too spoiled to put in the hard work. It's too easy to live off the government. I see it in the Albanians coming here now. They hustle, scrimp and save to achieve the American Dream. How do we get our American minorities motivated to hustle? "
KITTY wrote on Feb 14, 2013 7:23 PM:
@BRIAN......i have always been a mentor......my former employer had a wonderful mentoring program..... "
al.cap wrote on Feb 14, 2013 7:45 PM:
GeorgeK wrote on Feb 14, 2013 9:36 PM:
If we really want to fix this problem, it is certainly going to require a multifaceted approach.
1) Personal Responsibility. This is a value, and values start in the home. The adults in this country, need to start leading by example. I am looking at my generation here particularly. My fellow 20 somethings are just getting out of college and beginning to get out on their own, in some cases. Nevertheless, they are becoming full-blown adults. They need to live within their means and teach their underlings that the only person you can ever truly rely on is yourself. Kitty goes on about how 'Republicans don't wanna pay for birth control' but birth control is free. Keep it in your friggin' pants. Having sex is not a wanton activity, but most of the youth treat it that way. It has real consequences, and unless you are prepared to deal with those consequences, then don't do it. Sex is treated like an athletic activity and everyone wants in on it. If you wanna' go whorin' (men and women) around, that is fine, but don't expect me to pay for your back up plan. That is your responsibility to deal with the protection or the consequences. If you have a child, and can't afford to take care of them, your fault. Not mine. My generation needs to take ownership for themselves and live within due bounds towards all mankind. Lately, our country has become less and less responsible and more and more 'someone elses problem'. This is not acceptable. Next time you see someone doing the wrong thing, make sure you call them out on it, and correct that wrong. It might be uncomfortable and somewhat confrontational, but as long as you are doing the right thing, you will succeed in the end.
2) Welfare Reform. It is too easy to game the system. There are no checks in place that actually hold any water. People who are unemployment figure its easier to call that magic phone number once a week and keep watching the cash roll in. When their feet are held to the fire, and they have to prove they are looking for a job, they just go and ask the prospecting employer to sign off on their sheet, and most do. There are too many individuals who have happily given up on providing for themselves and rely on government to do it for them. They know the money is always going to roll in and if they don't just want to live off of the government dole, they'll go out and get a job 'off-the-books'. I see it all the time. I think you should have to piss clean to collect a check. I think you should have to do volunteer work around the city or town if you are going to collect a check. I think that you should have to take mandatory classes to learn how to get a job and be presentable at an interview. There are too many unchecked freebies in our country. That needs to stop.
3) Education Reform. Everyone thinks that education is a right. Guess what? It's not. There are some people, including children, who do not want to learn, don't care to learn, or don't want to do anything. Fine. This circles back to personal responsibility. If you don't want an education, then there can be repercussions for not getting one. You better be prepared to deal with them. However, I think that even if a child, who decides the food they want to eat, the clothes they want to wear, and places they want to go, decides they don't want to go to school, then so be it. Less students means a better education for everyone left over who WANTS to learn. College, being a form of education, is not a right. You pay your way pal. I did. Take out a loan if need be, or join the military, and they'll pay for it (in some part, with certain stipulations). But college is not a right, I should not have to pay for your kid to go to college, or to bail them out of paying for their student loan because they took a 4 year degree in 17th century Belgian lesbian studies and couldn't get a six-figure a year job right out the gate.
4) Free-market approach. Everyone complains that people aren't paid a living wage and that Wal-mart hires people for pennies in a bucket. So at risk of repeating myself, I will say it again. Wal-mart pays people what it pays them because there are people who will fill those positions at the given rate. If Wal-mart couldn't get employees at $8.25 an hour they would have to raise the wage to a higher amount to employ a quality person. Take for example, out in North Dakota, which is in the midst of a huge oil boom. Wal-mart is offering new employees a starting wage of $17.00 an hour and can barely fill those positions because there are other employers offering even more than that amount. President Obama said we need to raise the national minimum wage to $9.00 an hour. This will largely be a failure for the following reason. When you force someone to employ a person a greater rate than what they are worth, you are effectively overpaying that person. Ultimately, the employer compensates by just hiring less people. When less people are employed, there are less consumers to buy the goods. And when less purchasing is happening, businesses don't do as well and ultimately raise the price on goods to compensate. What we are left with is less money in the hands of the public to buy goods that are more expensive. A simple class in economics will teach anyone this premise. It is time for the government to step aside and let the markets do the bidding. Deregulate the economy by removing the minimum wage, lowering taxes, and ridding it of prohibitive legislation like Sarbanes-Oxley and Dodd-Frank to name a few. Employers like certainty, because they can plan for the future. When an employer knows what is coming, they can make appropriate predictions of market conditions to come, and adapt to those changes. With this increased certainty in a positive economic future, most employers who have half a braincell will hire more individuals to help their company do more business and grow. Right now employers are weary of hiring because they don't know what the government is going to do next. Will congress pass a mandatory minimum wage which will increase my operating costs? What is the actual cost of Obamacare? Will the next regulation the EPA passes unnecessarily prohibit my ability to do business? Because employers aren't sure of what the future will bring, they are holding on to their cash and waiting to see what happens next. This is a logical choice. Until they know their costs aren't going to 'necessarily skyrocket', they are going to maintain their holding pattern.
I know this isn't the catch-all approach and there will be special circumstances where someone might lose out (green energy is largely unpopular, and would almost certainly fail in a free market economy, otherwise electric only cars would be flying off the shelves and the government wouldn't have to bribe people to buy them by giving them a tax-break). However, the overall benefit is superior. People can vote with their wallet. Job not paying you enough? Get a better paying job. Product costs too much? Buy it from someone else who sells it cheaper. This can be applied to any job, any employer, any product and any service. At the end of the day though, when the government has grown to such a size, that businesses cower in fear at their next move, imagine how the people feel. "
KITTY wrote on Feb 14, 2013 10:30 PM:
it was i that said complex problems require complex solutions in answer to al's enlightened post....
i agreee al it's great for kids that have parent's who really care about them....mine were amazing......but not all kids are lucky enough ....so what... we write them off......don't try to reach them.......sad thing is...that's a lot of kids......like brian said we can mentor those children.......the bank i worked at had an amazing mentoring program.......i still mentor people......we can all be mentor's to children ......they just need one person that believes in them.....it doesn't have to be a parent....it's a great way each of us can strengthen our communities.....and we all benefit.... "
KITTY wrote on Feb 14, 2013 10:38 PM:
mikeb wrote on Feb 14, 2013 11:47 PM:
al.cap wrote on Feb 15, 2013 5:31 AM:
alot of what george says is correct. any societal change must begin with personal responsibility and pride.
@george- ever consider running for office? "
todd wrote on Feb 15, 2013 7:19 AM:
Maybe we are exactly the same as the generations before us.
Maybe we are old and want to complain about how young people are worse than us.
I feel the same instinct, but then I remember how my parents and their friends sounded when I was younger. "
al.cap wrote on Feb 15, 2013 7:58 AM:
Sandy Socks wrote on Feb 15, 2013 8:28 AM:
My guess is they probably bought a video game, or earrings or sneakers. Maybe they went to the movies or put gas in a friend's car and definitely stopped at a few fast food places. Maybe they got the hair done or bought a present home for their kid sister.
The point is, I believe most is this money got pumped right back into the local economy. ( kind of the same thing hunters do, right Al ) And that's a good thing. We may take it for granted, but I'm sure in a lot of communities these kids come from there just isn't much disposable income for people to hire kids.
Another good thing is a crappy dead end job like this will make, at least some of them, look for and appreciate a good job in the future. Kudos to the mayor and PAL
I find it sad to see by the nature and content of many of the replies here the attitude and prejudices these kids face. "
GeorgeK wrote on Feb 15, 2013 10:00 AM:
While the kids may not be in school learning about whatever it is they teach kids these days, they got an opportunity over the earlier week to learn the value of hard work. Always a good lesson indeed. I largely agree with your last comment. Good to be on the same level.
Go back and reread what I wrote. All men are created equal. Man is imperfect. This is a fact of life. But to give someone a freebie based on the fact they didn't have a good upbringing is very discriminatory. Who decides what a 'good upbringing' is? Compared to rich kids living in the Berkshires with a trust fund, not even I had an affluent upbringing. Do I qualify for said freebie? So then why draw that line? You largely missed the whole picture concept I was going for. You fail to understand the concept of personal responsibility over and over again. When you have a child, you are responsible for them. Nobody else should be held liable for your decision, whether that was to have sex and a child resulted, or you want to have sex and can't afford protection. If you can face the possible consequences of the act, then don't do the deed, keep it in your pants. I think they say, if you can't do the time, then don't do the crime.
I am really young (which will be a large obstacle I have to overcome and my opponent will continually point out.) Breaking into the elitist ring of politicians isn't the easiest thing. Grass roots candidates have a lot of problems competing with affluent candidates who can spend their opponent into the ground. I have seriously considered running for government and I have the support of my family to do so. I think it will be a matter of time... and money. "
conservative1 wrote on Feb 15, 2013 10:09 AM:
How do you convince people they are not OWED anything they are not willing to fight for?
How do you convince people that living off the government isn't honorable. That there is a better life waiting for them is they apply themselves. They don't have to settle for the horrible life of living in the project. I'm angered by this lifestyle and feel sorry for them at the same time. The generation in their 60's that allowed their children to follow in their steps failed as parents. The 40 yr olds that are now letting their children follow them are failing as parents.
The government programs put in place to help them have only made it easier to fall into this trap.
Do we just cut them off and force them to fen for themselves?
Do we accept that there will always be those too lazy/unwilling/unable to care for themselves?
Theoretically this is the difference between the two political parties. The democrats, the party of compassion either feels they need to care for these people or traps them into needing them to be cared for (to keep getting elected). The republicans want to help them succeed or are just tired of paying for them. I choose to side with the republicans as no matter their reason, the poor/lazy person would become a contributor to society and have a better life. To just keep handing them the fish rather than teaching them to fish just keeps them enslaved to the government. "
conservative1 wrote on Feb 15, 2013 10:15 AM:
linda wrote on Feb 15, 2013 10:46 AM:
KITTY wrote on Feb 15, 2013 12:14 PM:
@AL....when you mentor someone they have chosen to be in the program.......they don't give you someone that has no interest.......they want their programs to be productive...not a waste of time......there are even programs on line that you can do with email and probably skype...... "
Sandy Socks wrote on Feb 15, 2013 12:27 PM:
You say, "How do you convince people they are not OWED anything they are not willing to fight for?
How do you convince people that living off the government isn't honorable. That there is a better life waiting for them is they apply themselves. They don't have to settle for the horrible life of living in the project. I'm angered by this lifestyle and feel sorry for them at the same time."
You seem to have all the answers. Put yourself in their shoes and tell me what you'd do:
You're a young male living in the projects who grew up on government assistance but you have a C average High School diploma. Probably no car.
Where do you go for a job? Where do you go for clothes and credit. This ruggid individualism, pull yourself up by the bootstraps that our fathesr did occurred in a different world. A different economy.That's not to say those opportunities don't exist, its just that they're fewer.
Now toss in the racism. Don't say racism doesn't exist. Just look at the flavor of many of the posts here - including your own.
So where should hundreds of young males look for work? Tell me because I can't figure it out. "
KITTY wrote on Feb 15, 2013 12:52 PM:
@GEORGE....you don't know what they are teaching in school these days??......you should......you being in your twenties ......wasn't very long ago you were in school..... "
al.cap wrote on Feb 15, 2013 1:46 PM:
then our hypothetical kid might ask himself why he only got a c average, when kids like kitty got straight a's? did he prefer to skip class? smoke a little dope? not take advantage of all that was offered, while kitty did? "
KITTY wrote on Feb 15, 2013 4:23 PM:
KITTY wrote on Feb 15, 2013 4:28 PM:
KITTY wrote on Feb 15, 2013 4:42 PM:
GeorgeK wrote on Feb 15, 2013 4:55 PM:
I fail to understand how 'keeping it in your pants' is such a hard concept for you to grasp. Sex is not a recreational activity with zero consequences. Your a moron, if you think it is.
How are my proposals unrealistic? They are free-market principles. Everyone plays by the same rules. No freebies, no special exemptions. Everyone has skin in the game. You advocate handouts to the disadvantaged, but fail to define who the disadvantaged includes. As soon as you define one group of people it puts them a notch above others, which in itself is discriminatory. I am talking about the true level playing field here. Everyone gets the same shot. Get rid of Equal Opportunity and Affirmative Action. Hire people based specifically for their merits, not their skin color. Get rid of the minimum wage and let the market determine the wages.
After reading what you have written over the past few months, it has become clearly evident that you have no faith in the average person. They need help. They need assistance. They can't fend for themselves. We need someone to rule us and keep us in line as the average joe can't be trusted to go about his business in a responsible manner. You have no faith in this country, nor the people whom live in it.
When I was in school they actually taught you the US Constitution. In 8th grade, I was required to commit to memory, the preamble of the Declaration of Independence, and the first ten amendments of the US Constitution, better known as the Bill of Rights. When I was in school, we actually said the Pledge of Allegiance together every morning to an American Flag. When I was in school, my friends and I could play cops and robbers in the recess yard and pretend to shoot each other with our hands, and not get expelled. When I was in school, if you messed up, the principle would give you a stern a**chewing and put you back in class. If you were really bad, you got suspended, in school. You weren't getting sent home, that is for sure. When I was in school, there was bullying, but you settled it the right way. Throw down, and be done with it. Kitty, school has changed quite a bit from when I was in... and to think, I only graduated public high school in 2005.
What I would give to debate you in public. If you are all the left has, the left doesn't have much.
Why does he have only a C average? Doesn't want to apply himself? Then he doesn't have my sympathy. So he grows up, and graduates high school. Theres a big hurdle right there. You have a couple options. Join the military, and use that money to continue your education. That isn't the only one, you can find a job that will hire you. All you have is a high school diploma, it isn't going to net you much, but if you have a work ethic, you'll succeed. Get a job doing janitorial duties, cooking at a restaurant, busing tables, landscaping. If you show up to work when you are scheduled and do a good job, maybe you'll move up. At least in the time being you can begin saving money, and learning how to manage your money, another skill today's youth wildly fails to grasp. Maybe you don't have to walk to work, and now you can drive because you bought a car. You can expand your reach, and based off your now developed skill set, you could stay with your current employer or see if you can get a better wage elsewhere. And so on and so forth.
It may not be pretty, and it may not work out the first, second or third attempt. However, you can't know success until you know failure. When you fall down, you get back up. Nobody in this country, has a right to a job, a house, a TV, an iPhone, an education, a car, a retirement and so forth. It is all conditional. The amount of effort you put in will determine your overall success in life. The bottom line is this country guarantees your ability to try to attain all of those things via the right to 'the pursuit of happiness'. It is all but certain, but you are allowed to try, until government gets in the way.
I can understand why you are sympathetic to those who are disadvantaged. Its a human feeling, empathy. Its a great feeling to help somebody out, but it must be done of one's own free-will and accord. If it is performed through taxation or confiscation, that is unconstitutional and unjustifiable. "
KITTY wrote on Feb 15, 2013 5:34 PM:
KITTY wrote on Feb 15, 2013 5:43 PM:
conservative1 wrote on Feb 15, 2013 5:45 PM:
The eastern europeans are thriving here after being here just a few years. They stood on corners and at home depot willing to do manual labor. Saved their money and bought trucks, then became their own bosses. Our city is loaded with successful Albanians now. Blacks have been here longer than all of us (of european decent).
How about that young minority studies really hard (if that's the route he choses) then goes to college (with loans) the sky is the limit. He will get what he puts in. Or he can go the labor route. Go to Kaynor Tech. learn a trade and either be a union plumber or own his own construction, automotive shop. or restaurant.
The how is. How do you get him to realize living in the project for free and owning a 95" tv isn't success. I don't know how. Maybe it's you stop the flow of free stuff as incentive. No one ever valued anything they got for free.
Our parents didn't buy all the latest gadgets. They saved their money. Owning a Lex with 20's wasn't success to them. Buying a home, making a family, and putting food on the table was. "
conservative1 wrote on Feb 15, 2013 5:49 PM:
KITTY wrote on Feb 15, 2013 6:11 PM:
al.cap wrote on Feb 15, 2013 6:13 PM:
we've worn that subject out. not interested in doing it again. "
KITTY wrote on Feb 15, 2013 6:17 PM:
KITTY wrote on Feb 15, 2013 8:13 PM:
KITTY wrote on Feb 15, 2013 8:20 PM:
al.cap wrote on Feb 15, 2013 10:25 PM:
conservative1 wrote on Feb 16, 2013 12:37 AM:
You keep talking about a living wage, about the Walmarts not paying enough. As someone who owns a business, I can attest that some people aren't worth even minimum wage. It's tough to ask a business owner to pay an employee more than they are worth. "
conservative1 wrote on Feb 16, 2013 12:41 AM:
Someone doesn't believe in the free market "
KITTY wrote on Feb 16, 2013 2:16 AM:
al.cap wrote on Feb 16, 2013 6:29 AM:
" @AL.....think of it if every person working in retail gets a raise and can afford that bottle of wine....what that means to your business....... "
what that means, indirectly, is, everybody in the warehouse, shipping, and sales departments of all my distributors also got raises, and the wholesale price just went up. same thing happened when dannell the genius raised the wholesale tax.
directly, it means my employees just got a raise, and the retail price went up. "
KITTY wrote on Feb 16, 2013 10:47 AM:
KITTY wrote on Feb 16, 2013 10:51 AM:
KITTY wrote on Feb 16, 2013 10:58 AM:
GeorgeK wrote on Feb 16, 2013 11:20 AM:
What Kitty advocates, is a fast track to inflation. And to think, she manages other people's money. Good grief... "
KITTY wrote on Feb 16, 2013 12:56 PM:
al.cap wrote on Feb 16, 2013 2:39 PM:
ask yourself the questions i posed for our hypothetical young worker. do we always have to be the worst at everything? "
KITTY wrote on Feb 17, 2013 11:53 AM:
KITTY wrote on Feb 17, 2013 12:00 PM:
al.cap wrote on Feb 17, 2013 12:43 PM:
still no answer to those pesky questions. ct is going down the toilet due to too much government, specifically too much democratic, left wing, government. as the red states prosper, the blue states wither. "
KITTY wrote on Feb 17, 2013 2:12 PM:
conservative1 wrote on Feb 17, 2013 7:55 PM:
Kitty, what does the employer do with the employee that isn't worth more than $8/hr? fire them or pay them more than they are worth?
So as everyone's wage goes up, so do the products and services you want them to be able to afford, which they cannot afford still because the prices went up to cover their wage increase. How does that work again? Is this Obamanomics again?
Do you go to Walmart? 1/2 the employees are lucky Walmart will pay them even minimum wage. "
KITTY wrote on Feb 17, 2013 7:59 PM:
KITTY wrote on Feb 17, 2013 8:12 PM:
conservative1 wrote on Feb 17, 2013 8:59 PM:
There are programs to supplement employers that hire disables /mentally challenged employees. I think we can all agree this is a good social program. "
KITTY wrote on Feb 18, 2013 12:07 AM:
KITTY wrote on Feb 18, 2013 12:19 AM:
al.cap wrote on Feb 18, 2013 7:40 AM:
" @conservative....i tell people how to run their businesses......
yeah, yeah. those who can't do, teach. the real world doesn't happen on a spreadsheet. try making payroll, or deciding someone's employment future. or any of the other 1000 decisions made every day. and then listen to someone, who knows absolutely nothing about your business, tell you that you're not paying people enough, or that your eighty hour weeks don't mean anything. yeah, that works for me. keep quoting stats, kitty. the only state that matters is ours, and it's going down the toilet, thanks to a government and an electorate who have no clue how things work in the real world.
and btw- i knew that con1 had worked in the family business.....comprehension and retention.....she wrote about it a couple of month ago, in a debate with .......you. "
conservative1 wrote on Feb 18, 2013 9:32 AM:
Kitty how did I offend you this time?
Mentally challenged? Or was it stating fact that some dumb people are basically worth nothing in the work force? We (business owners) are supposed to pay everyone $25-30/hr? That can be done if you're willing to pay $300 to have your grass cut and $47 for a loaf of bread. But then the $30 hr my employee earns wont afford them either. Neither will the average American who afforded them prior to your inflation program.
THAT is your Presidents Agenda. To make America the same as the rest of the world.
Your math doesn't work.
Everyone doesn't have a right to succeed. Those that put the effort in have a chance at success. Those that choose not to put any effort in will most likely live in poverty until they die. It's the "Pursuit of Happiness" Not the Promise of Happiness. "
KITTY wrote on Feb 18, 2013 10:21 AM:
conservative1 wrote on Feb 18, 2013 11:21 AM:
You haven't answered the question of what to do with the useless employee that you fired. Put them in a free Carabetta apt and pay for them forever? You tell me? I don't know the answer. How will you reward them for their irresponsible life? "
KITTY wrote on Feb 18, 2013 12:34 PM:
GeorgeK wrote on Feb 18, 2013 3:53 PM:
So let us say that you get your way. Where does the money come from initially to pay their employees the difference in the minimum wage increase? "
KITTY wrote on Feb 18, 2013 4:32 PM:
al.cap wrote on Feb 18, 2013 5:33 PM:
GeorgeK wrote on Feb 18, 2013 5:37 PM:
And for companies operating dangerously close to their margin already? What about companies that are already losing money? Will they necessarily fail for the good of the people?
Will there be more money to be made with the higher cost of goods, or just fewer goods sold, yielding in no net gain, just a greater overhead cost?
I am seriously trying to follow your train of thought, so don't bail on me now. "
KITTY wrote on Feb 18, 2013 6:20 PM:
GeorgeK wrote on Feb 18, 2013 6:23 PM:
And when those wage earners save their money, instead of spending it? "
KITTY wrote on Feb 18, 2013 6:29 PM:
GeorgeK wrote on Feb 18, 2013 6:53 PM:
So ultimately, businesses that are already struggling in this economy, notably most small businesses, will fail. Prices will necessarily increase as larger companies attempt to adjust for the new regulation. As a result, you will have newly unemployed people paying higher prices...
Help me out here.... Not seeing this work... "
KITTY wrote on Feb 18, 2013 7:04 PM:
GeorgeK wrote on Feb 18, 2013 7:12 PM:
KITTY wrote on Feb 18, 2013 7:26 PM:
GeorgeK wrote on Feb 18, 2013 9:36 PM:
GDP is based on product, that sells. If nobody buys it (because they're unemployed, or the company hires less people and decreases production), then it isn't counted toward GDP.
Why $9/hr if it isn't going to help? How about $20/hr? $40/hr? Surely, if you make $40/hr, you'll be above the poverty line. "
KITTY wrote on Feb 18, 2013 10:22 PM:
KITTY wrote on Feb 18, 2013 10:32 PM:
GeorgeK wrote on Feb 18, 2013 10:46 PM:
Here is another tidbit to think about.
If you have to raise the minimum wage for all of your employees, who is to say the employer doesn't just lay off a few employees and give the rest the bump up to the new minimum wage to make it a wash? "
KITTY wrote on Feb 18, 2013 11:35 PM:
KITTY wrote on Feb 18, 2013 11:37 PM:
wmkanejr wrote on Feb 19, 2013 9:40 AM:
al.cap wrote on Feb 19, 2013 10:01 AM:
conservative1 wrote on Feb 19, 2013 12:31 PM:
"Walmart is too big to fail" Bailout! "
KITTY wrote on Feb 19, 2013 1:41 PM:
blue star wrote on Feb 19, 2013 1:56 PM:
During the depression you could steal your neighbor's job by telling the boss, "I'll do it for 25 cents less." The employers thought that was just grand. The families, suffered. "
GeorgeK wrote on Feb 19, 2013 3:55 PM:
No, it doesn't have a say when an employer pays below a living wage. You yourself already admitted that setting a $9/hr minimum wage won't help everyone. Therefore, why not make it $20/hr? $40/hr? If the government does have a say, where in the Constitution does it get the power to have a 'say'? Beside, what is a living wage? In a previous article, I have already demonstrated the ability to live off a the state minimum wage. Who determines the living wage? Where do they get that power to make such a determination? Why is their determination the ultimate one?
Give me some answers Kitty, because I am far from sold on this.
As for the employer, say he cuts a job or two to make the increase in minimum wage a wash? The other employee's make more money and therefore, he could just make them do more work to absorb the laid off employee's duties. In fact, I see this all the time when departments trim a person or two, the other employees pick up the slack.
I really don't see the problem in abolishing the minimum wage altogether. Let the employer set the bar. If nobody wants to work for the offered wage, they'll be forced to increase the wage or go out of business. Simple as that. The bottom line here, especially with this principle, is that the market commands the value of labor, not the government.
@Blue Star
As for the example with the guy, who has a family, losing his job as a result of the other guy offering to do the same job for a lesser price. Put yourself in the employer's shoes. Same productivity, at a cheaper cost. Seems good to me. You are allowing emotion to enter the equation when the problem is strictly business. God, imagine if everyone made business decisions based on emotion, we would all be broke. Why is the man with the family's feelings worth more to you here than the employer's feelings? They are both men, created equally.
The problem here though, boils down to the difference in approach between liberals and conservatives. Liberals want to force employers and by extension, the public to do something, whether it be spending money or forcibly employing someone. When you require someone to pay someone a certain wage to an employee and consequently, if they fail to comply, you will lock them in jail. You are essentially conscripting an employer to employ someone at a standard to your liking, not necessarily, the condition of the market or what is good for their business. Comply with the regulation by employing these people under the government's stipulations, or don't have a business at all. Citizens, you will obey your federal overlord! Conservatives, want to see the market dictate the direction of things. They want to allow freedom of decision to both the employee and employer. Freedom fosters innovation. Innovation fosters success. "
blue star wrote on Feb 19, 2013 4:55 PM:
Hopefully you stay on the 'destroyer' list, and not end up on the 'to be destroyed' you might be surprised to learn what a thin line it is, no matter what you think your current standing is.
A nice profit, and a hungry family is a reciprocal equation.This is not a question of emotion vs profit. It is greed vs hunger. "
GeorgeK wrote on Feb 19, 2013 5:02 PM:
You make the mistake of assuming that every business is a large corporation. The majority of business that is done in this country is performed by companies with less than 500 employees making it a small business.
I fail to understand where you find one person's well-being holding a greater weight than another. This whole discussion is an evolution from a proposal mandating that employers pay their employee a certain amount. If the employer gets the final say in that amount, then they will be able to pay a competitive wage allowing them to succeed and by extension their employees. When you step in and mandate a bottom dollar amount, you are messing with the equilibrium that is the free market, and when you do that, only entropy results. That is a fact of nature.
Additionally, you assume that in the free market, profiteers would prevail and just hoard the cash. Any businessman knows that in order to succeed you must grow, ergo they would have to reinvest that profit into expansion and thus more jobs. It is a self-perpetuating principle. "
Joerod wrote on Feb 19, 2013 5:10 PM:
KITTY wrote on Feb 19, 2013 5:11 PM:
GeorgeK wrote on Feb 19, 2013 5:28 PM:
blue star wrote on Feb 19, 2013 5:46 PM:
I am simply talking about a persons ability to work for an employer,of any size, and be able to provide his/her family with food, shelter, and clothing, at contemporary costs. No amount of high falutin gobbledygook can fix that.
Sounds good, but falls flat with a thud.
Labor laws are there to protect the working people. Other laws protect the employers. We are all protected under the law, and in the courts. "
KITTY wrote on Feb 19, 2013 6:01 PM:
KITTY wrote on Feb 19, 2013 6:06 PM:
GeorgeK wrote on Feb 19, 2013 6:08 PM:
As for my pointing out that you are missing the point, it is not to belittle you, rest assured. I can tell you are very compassionate about the issue and don't want to see people being laid off, having their families starve and freeze in the aftermath. I agree on all counts; neither do I. It is very unfortunate when someone loses a job. It is painful to see those who are need and not having those needs met. However, it is not the government's job to satisfy those needs. The government has no authority to do this. Needs do not necessarily mean rights and frequently, those two terms are used interchangeably. It is this premise that has brought us to our current dismal political and economic state. When people realize that freedom provides you with much more affluence than the government can, then and only then, will they realize that they can not only pursue, but achieve happiness. "
GeorgeK wrote on Feb 19, 2013 6:24 PM:
Unfortunately, employees are not terminated, at least not in reality. Even when they are, employees are allowed to collect unemployement if they can successfully defeate the employer in the proceedings to follow, if they are denied, they'll collect welfare, only gaming the system further. There is no fear of failure in this country anymore, because if you do fail, the governement will pick you up and carry you.
If you are disabled, again, the government arbitrarily decides who can and cannot work. I have seen this go both ways. Again, do away with disability altogether and allow those who are disabled to negotiate their abilities with a prospective employer so they can work within their ability. These days, I see too many people who are on disability like its an achievement. I see people driving down the highway with handicapped tags likes it is some sort of badge of honor. Are you kidding me? The 'I got mine mentality' with some of these types is sickening. This is not to say, there are people who are truly disabled, who do need assistance. Surely there is a case where this exists. Well, then the person or entity who caused the disability should be held liable. For example, military veterans who have been injured permanently in the course of their duties, should be dually compensated for their disability from the governement. Same thing from an employer to the employee.
I don't know where you get from having a bottom-dollar amount for a minimum wage to meeting the needs of all. Every state is different than the next, with different economic and social conditions. How can one value be the end-all solution for every single person in this country? It can't. And where do you get $9/hr from? Why not $20/hr? Why not $40/hr? It is an arbitrarily set number and has no substantive basis for even being mentioned, at least until you can prove otherwise. "
blue star wrote on Feb 19, 2013 7:27 PM:
I kind of like the idea, and it does seem fair. How about the fatalities, do we support their families for life? How about those that are so traumatized by the horrors of war that they are left unable to function? I would like to hear some more about your idea to compensate the Vets.
Workers are covered by worker compensation, so that takes care of your idea on liability going back to the person that caused the disability.
So far we have not guaranteed those who do their duty will be compensated for life, do you think this is a good time to start doing that? It might help the recruiters. "
conservative1 wrote on Feb 19, 2013 8:56 PM:
Now what??
What if he doesn't want to be evaluated? What if the gvmt says he is worth $25/hr? Do we all have dollar amount tattoos on our arms? I think I saw a movie like this.
I'm really interested in your plan. "
KITTY wrote on Feb 19, 2013 11:42 PM:
al.cap wrote on Feb 20, 2013 6:43 AM:
perhaps the most hypocritical thing ever posted by the one who continually supports larger, more intrusive government interference in every aspect of American life. your president should heed this advice, oh wise one. "
brendaleemartin wrote on Feb 20, 2013 8:38 AM:
KITTY wrote on Feb 20, 2013 10:43 AM:
brendaleemartin wrote on Feb 20, 2013 11:21 AM:
al.cap wrote on Feb 20, 2013 12:04 PM:
KITTY wrote on Feb 20, 2013 12:51 PM:
conservative1 wrote on Feb 20, 2013 9:51 PM:
KITTY wrote on Feb 20, 2013 11:56 PM:
al.cap wrote on Feb 21, 2013 8:31 AM:
you have no problem with the government getting involved in my business, though. hypocritical, as usual. "
GeorgeK wrote on Feb 21, 2013 3:22 PM:
conservative1 wrote on Feb 21, 2013 6:03 PM:
Waterbury is ripe for the picking for a true conservative republican mayor. We should run you like greyhound. "
KITTY wrote on Feb 21, 2013 6:58 PM:
GeorgeK wrote on Feb 21, 2013 7:07 PM:
KITTY wrote on Feb 21, 2013 7:07 PM:
KITTY wrote on Feb 21, 2013 7:11 PM:
GeorgeK wrote on Feb 21, 2013 7:48 PM:
By your logic then, I could have any gun I can conceive, and as long as it is kept in my bedroom, you should keep your little grubby hands off it? "
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text: Hi guys, My partners taking me for an Italian on Saturday ( my weeklies renew Thursday so I'll save them tik Saturday). he is a huge eater (and as irritating it is he is only 12stone instead of the 25 stone he should be with the amount he eats). Due to him eating so much I want to have a side with my meal so I don't feel I'm depriving myself. I'm not struggling at all on the diet I've stuck to it completely and have lost 14 pounds in 5 weeks. So my plan for the Italian is: starter: garlic pizza bread - 14pp (I don't know the points for this but according to my book with cheese it is 19pp) main: either spaghetti bolognaise 18pp or margarita pizza 20pp i know this seems a lot of points but I am on 38 per day and I'll use most if it out my weeklies. im thinking I was a side if chips but i don't know what to point them at. My sister said she thinks she saw in the book approx 19pp that was going off ASK Italian restaurant. Is this what you guys would point it as? Also does my points for starter and main sound about right? Advice much appreciated. thanks in advance


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40th victory in Wimbledon
Roger marched into the third round of Wimbledon today after handling Robin Soderling in straight sets 6-3, 6-4, 7-6 (3).
"I'm happy with how I played," Roger said. "It was difficult to see the ball with the low afternoon sun. I'm moving well and even though I was broken for the first time on grass in 2008, I had an excellent performance. I hope to build on it."
Our champ pounded out 15 aces against the overmatched Söderling and committed no single double-fault, showing a complete control over his serve and tallying just 16 unforced errors. The same couldn't be said for Söderling whose 30 unforced errors crippled any opportunity he may have had coming in. Roger dropped his first serve of the season on grass though, but saved the final set in great manner.
Roger's next match on Friday will be either against France's Marc Gicquel (ATP 53) or Serbia's Ilja Bozoljac (ATP 197).
Congratulations Dearest Roger. Very well done!!!
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Aside from his stunning athletic gifts, defensive back Charles Woodson was known in Oakland for occasionally snoozing during meetings, believing that film study was irrelevant and being a man-about-town in terms of the Bay Area night life.
Woodson was good enough to make the Pro Bowl in his first four NFL seasons (1998-2001), but his career failed to launch until the Raiders let him walk as a free agent after the 2005 season.
Fast forward to 2013 as Green Bay prepares for Saturday's playoff game against the 49ers at Candlestick Park. Woodson, having returned from a broken collarbone for the Packers after missing nine games, is one of the NFL's most productive and respected players.
"He's a Hall of Famer," former Raiders quarterback Rich Gannon said. "He could be a difference-maker in this game against the 49ers."
As a Raider, Woodson had a DUI arrest while at a benefit golf tournament in Michigan and on another occasion was driven by a female acquaintance to the Oakland police station when he and a teammate refused to get out of the car.
Woodson, 36, is no longer an eligible bachelor. He's married and the father of two boys. In 2009, Woodson donated $2 million to the C.S. Mott Children's Hospital at his alma mater, the University of Michigan. Earlier this season, he wrote a $100,000 check to the Red Cross on behalf of Hurricane Sandy victims and campaigned on behalf of President Barack Obama.
"He realizes how much he's been blessed," said former teammate and fellow Heisman Trophy winner Tim Brown. "Getting married was a big deal for him. It slowed him down a lot. So did having a family, and the way social media is now, knowing that one day these kids are going to know everything he did."
Injuries such as a turf toe, a broken leg (twice) and a broken shoulder blade helped slow Woodson's ascent as a Raider, but both Gannon and Brown are of the belief that getting out of Oakland made all the difference.
"Green Bay was a career-saver for Charles," Gannon said. "He was an elite talent in Oakland, but he was never held accountable. He practiced the way he wanted to and played the way he wanted to. There wasn't the discipline and structure that he needed."
In 106 games with the Raiders, Woodson had 17 interceptions, 51/2 sacks and two touchdowns. In 100 games with the Packers, he has 38 interceptions, 111/2 sacks and nine TDs.
Because of his injury history and declining production, Green Bay was the only serious suitor.
"The maturity factor and the realization that, hey, this is my last stop, was enough for him to step up and do things the right way," Brown said.
Brown said he saw Woodson in 2007 and was surprised to see him looking bigger and stronger.
"He said he was lifting weights," Brown said. "In seven years I never saw him lift a weight in Oakland. He'd ride the bike and that was about it."
Woodson learned to embrace the entire week in Green Bay, rather than just game day.
"There was never any question about his talent," Gannon said. "I remember competing against him at training camp, and he was ridiculous. When he went to Green Bay, it was like a guy like Randy Moss going to the Patriots. You've got structure and discipline around you, and you've got to be a certain way and perform.
"There was this evolution where he became a completely different person, working with young players, being very unselfish."


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News 12 First at Five / Monday, Oct. 8, 2012
AUGUSTA, Ga. -- Commissioners agree the county's drainage issues need fixing, and if they don't agree on a plan soon, the federal government may step in.
"We've had areas for decades that have been in total turmoil as it relates to stormwater, drains and flooding and that sort of thing, and we just don't have a way of combating that," said District 4 Commissioner Alvin Mason.
Engineering Services Director Abie Ladson laid out a plan to commissioners he says could fix Richmond County's flooding problem.
"Flooding is a real issue, but it's not just flooding. We have some pipes and infrastructure that are probably right at a hundred years old and needs to be replaced," Ladson said.
If the city doesn't decide on a plan of action soon, the feds could step in.
"Their plan may be a totally different plan than what he's bringing forward and may not be advantageous to the citizens of Augusta Richmond County," Mason said.
Even though it's federally and state mandated, right now it's up to city and county taxpayers to fund the projects.
"Initially, we came up with $6 on average per household per month. Looking at it, that's the worst case scenario, $6. More than likely, it will be less," Ladson said.
Emanuel Williams shot video of his flooded yard during heavy rains last summer.
"I get approximately 6 inches to a foot and a half of water that flows all over my property," Williams said.
He says he's been waiting on the city to do something about it for 25 years. After hearing the plan, he's a bit skeptical.
"On paper it looks good, but in actuality, whether it's gonna be carried out now or later, this is a big problem to me," Williams said.
Commissioner Mason says it's time to take some action and stop putting this issue on the back burner.
But it could be a while before citizens see some relief.
"The worst thing that we could do is move forward immediately, and then we haven't looked at this from a holistic or comprehensive standpoint, and then we've missed some critical areas, and then we've got a plan that doesn't meet our need," Mason said.
Ladson says there's about $3.5 million SPLOST designated for storm drainage, but he says that will only cover the initial process of analyzing, research and hiring consultants.
They're still looking for different ways to fund the projects, but without the fee, he says fixing this problem will be near impossible.
Other municipalities, including Columbia and Aiken counties, as well as the City of North Augusta, already have stormwater plan in place.


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I just read an article from the Active Basketball Community, Do teams need rules of etiquette?, that talks about sportsmanship and running up scores. I have been on both sides here, the winning team and the team getting humiliated by the other team. I can't decide whether rules should be in place to stop teams from running up the score or not. A part of me remembers the embarrassment and sadness I felt after getting crushed by another team, but I also remember those games now and see how I have grown from them. I hated it at the time, but I think it made me a stronger individual and athlete by having gone through it.
So my take on it is this...in youth sports there should be some rules set up to keep scores from becoming absolutely ridiculous, but beyond youth sports I see it as a learning experience and it is up to the coach to decide the actions of his/her team.
Let me know what you think about this topic or if you have any situations to share.
Ive been on both sides of this situation as well, and I do not really think there should be any major rules added to prevent running up scores. I coach college basketball and have coached on all levels and one of the main things we teach in basketball is that anything can happen on any given night. The same team that loses by 30 one night can also win by the same margin the next night. I know we are talking about kids, but I have seen too many youth coaches tell their kids to let the other team score or to back off just so the game can continue. I for one do not want to teach anyone the game that way and i do not think it should be at all. It's definitly a issue to tackle though.....
It's part of the game unfortunately and it is true...what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger. It's good to be on both sides as a player...that way you know why you fight to get better as a team everyday.
Speaking of running up scores...
Last night, Lipscomb was one point shy of setting the DI women's record for the biggest winning margin with a 123-22 win over Fisk. I didn't see the game, but that's an absurd score. I bet Fisk will be working hard in the gym this week after that one. Ouch.
This large margin of victory is interesting because Lipscomb coach Frank Bennett played his entire team, but the bench players responded and scored 86 points!
With 1:49 left in the game, and just six points from the "largest margin" record, Lipscomb attempted just one shot. I guess this was their attempt at stopping the embarrassment, but after 101 points I think it might have been a little late...
That should fuel Fisk for the rest of the season. Hope it helps them refocus and turn things around.
I've been on all sides as well. Coached a freshman team in AZ that won 116 - 19 and every player saw equal time. Our high school team presses hard and scores more points off their press than their offense. Basically, our press defense is our best offense. Should we pull out of our best offense just because we have a 30 pt lead? Maybe, ...maybe that's an opportunity to work on our other offenses. The fact remains that it's isn't my job as the coach to keep our score down. It's my job as the coach to equip my team to score and keep the other team's score down. The youth league I coach in has margin win limits based on age. I agree because kids who are beat badly at that age tend to think it's because they are bad when that's not always the case. These leagues also have minimum playing requirements. All players must play 2 full quarters, without substitution. Also agree with that rule at those ages. However, once they begin to play competitive ball in jr or sr high, the rules change. You play to win and the best players get on the floor. Isn't that a life lesson? If you can't do the job you don't get the pay? I tell my team that practices are their job and playing time in games is their paycheck. They may not like sitting on the bench, but they usually understand why.
So, in summary, keeping the score close is the responsibility of the losing team. If you can't keep up then you lose, The less capable you are of keeping up with the other team, the more you lose by. That's life. We all have to learn that lesson sooner or later. I prefer to teach it to my players before they get out of high school so they don't think that they deserve 'equal playing time' just for being in the game.
In response to Ali411 job as the coach.
The duties of the coach are to prepare the kids to become successful men and women in our society. Rubbing the face of an opponent in the floor is not teaching and preparing the kids for the working world. I have never hired anyone who acts that way and never will. Keeping the press on with 30-40 point leads in jr. and sr. high is not making the kids learn anything. Plus you are creating an environement which promotes the taunting, show boating, and trash talking that happens in all processes of life. The duty of the coach is to teach the kids to become leaders. A good credible coach can manage a game so he/she does not embarass the other kids. Leadership is a learned behavior and if coaches continue to believe winning big is ok than those kids will have a hard time understanding the failure in life. Does losing by 50 build character and why does it build more than losing by 20 or 1. There is a word which many High school, Rec ball, AAU, and Youth league coaches do not know the definition and that is CLASS.
Keep up the class act coach/parent and your kids will be those arrogant and behavioral problems which are society deals with everyday.
One of the reasons our club has improved and I became a better coach is from a team running the score up against us. It made me realize that I needed to do a better job preparing my girls for a game and it made our players realize they had a lot of things to work on. Since that time we have still been on both sides of the score run but continue to learn how to deal with it and become better players and coaches.
Rex Stewart
Kansas Elite Girls Basketball, Inc.
Hey Rex!
Yeah I agree with you. I'm glad it's helped your program. I have come to the conclusion that its just a part of life and what doesn't break you only makes you stronger anyway, right?
I found that our coaches and players stepped up their game and focus when we played a team again that had crushed us before. It's definitely a pride thing. You killed us once and we'll do whatever it takes to not let that happen again. With younger children it is obviously different, but hopefully they'll learn that attitude as well. Another reason why sports offer so many life lessons.
As most of you that responded, I too have been on both sides of this issue. I however have come to the conclusion that if my team is up by twenty points in the first half of a game, we will begin working on plays that we currently don't execute well in closer games. If we are up by twenty or more with less than five minutes to go in a game, that last five minutes begins our practice time for the subs to come in and execute our offense with the goal being ball control and good decision making when attempting a shot. Defensively we fall back into a zone and work on team defense. I guess for me after almost 18 years of working with youth and coaching basketball, I've found that teaching a team how to win with dignity and class is just as important as teaching a team how to respond to lose with dignity and class. I'm new to this basketball commuity and look forward to sharing thoughts and ideas with everyone.
Coach K.
True Blue Basketball Club
As has been said, if anyone has coached long enough, we have been on both sides. I don't believe that you can set limits on scoring at the varsity level(whether it be high school or junior high). But at what point is enough enough? Does it matter that a team beats another by 100? Does the starting five need to play most of the game? Does the press really need to be put on into the 4th quarter? If the opponent is that weak our best players really get nothing out of it....it becomes too easy. This is the point that we, as coaches, really teach life's lessons. Sportsmanship is too important a lesson to just say "it's not my job". That is the reason that we are losing so many kids in sports...the pressure to succeed and the lack of true sportsmanship. Play your bench players, get everyone involved in the offense and enjoy the balance of the game.
Last year, we played a team (10-11 year olds) that wasn't very good. Everyone played and I kept the bench players on the floor as much as possible. I had a parent from the other team come over to me after the game to thank me. He saw what we were trying to do and felt compelled to acknowledge it. That meant a lot to me......
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Last year, we played a team (10-11 year olds) that wasn't very good. Everyone played and I kept the bench players on the floor as much as possible. I had a parent from the other team come over to me after the game to thank me. He saw what we were trying to do and felt compelled to acknowledge it. That meant a lot to me......
Nice work! I agree with what you did as long as it isn't obvious and the kids kick in their sportsmanship more than ever that is the best bet.
In my view it is disrespectful and unsporting to take the foot of the gas.
By all means focus the effort on practising plays and getting them right, over scoring points (particularly just if you are hitting fast break after fast break), and by all means give the weaker players more playing time (but at very young age groups you should be doing that anyway), but don't stop trying. That's rubbing their faces in it.
Rob Robson
Co-founder, iStadia.com sports community | fitness & sports jobs | olympic news
Our junior high team actually had something interesting happen this year regarding running up the score. We were down by a considerable amount of points when the opposing teams coach stated to our coach "this is ridiculous, you are down by 20 pts with 2 minutes left on the clock.......quit pressing". This was said within earshot of our team and coming from the same coach who in a previous game ran the score up by 60 pts on a team without removing his starting lineup. I think it says alot for a coach who would tell a team to quit trying when they are down. Needless to say......we didn't win that game however it lit a fire under our girls that still hasn't been extinguished! They didn't give up their press and he couldn't hold his head up walking out of the gym.
I think that in some cases, it is ok to keep scoring. I think if you have made all of your substitutions, and are using the opportunity to work on things you normally wouldn't be able to do, it is acceptable. After all, if you are on the losing end of a route, you should really examine the effectiveness of your coaching technique, your gam strategies, and the quality of the opposing team. It is also important to teach "winning and losing with Class".
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Authorities in Ripley are investigating a fatal crash.
Dispatchers said the accident was discovered on Main Street shortly after 10:30 a.m.
Police said it appeared that an all-terrain vehicle went over a 20-foot embankment sometime late Thursday.
Images: Man killed in ATV crash
The ATV crashed into some trees at the bottom of the embankment, killing the man riding it, Gerald W. Polley, 47.
Neighbors said they heard what sounded like a crash, but didn't see anything.
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I've done about 5 sprint tri's and I'm really slow on the swim. I can do the distance. I don't know if I should focus on kicking more or there is something about my form, or I'm just not strong enough. I can try to swim hard for 800 yds in the pool and I'm not sore the next day. I wonder what direction I should take to get the best improvement. I'm 55 so I don't expect to get better naturally.
I've been told that running intervals helps your running speed (sprint fast then walk) .. so, using that knowledge towards the swim may help! I suggest you increase your speed by increasing your overall strength. Start working in 50m-100m sprints into your swim routine... also some weight triaining might help.
agree with previous poster to swim fast in a race you need to swim fast in practice. also have a knowledgeable swimmer/coach/lifeguard take a look at your form you may be able to improve your form and save some time and energy.
but you don't want to use your kick to improve your swim time at the expense of your bike and run. my .02 check out the total immersion books/dvds and see if they can help with your form
goals for 2011:
break 19minutes for 5k
break 2:42 for olympic triathlon probably Anthracite olympic
break 3:16 for marathon ( a long shot but it's fun putting yourself out there)
The # 1 thing you can do to get faster in the pool is to get in the pool more. A lot of speed is gained in off season for swimming (swimming at least 3 or 4 times). Swimming is a very high portion of technique. 1 thing I would consider is to get a few private lessons from a swimming coach or go to a masters program at your local gym. It might look scary with all of the fast people but they love to help everyone.
One last thing to note with swimming that most good coaches will tell you kick more will not propel you fast. The kick only makes up about 10% of the propulsion of a stroke. For longer distance swimming it sucks up much more oxygen because of the quadricep musles.
Good luck
While it is true that kicking gains little in forward motion, one easily remedied and common problem among non-swimmers is lack of ankle flexibility. If ankles have limited flexibility, then the foot is essentially close to 90 degrees relative to the plane of the water surface, increasing resistance to forward motion. There are ingenuous little stretching devices that one can easily purchase and do while lying on one's back reading, watching TV (at a funny angle obviously). Studies have been done on top swimmer's ankle flexibility and it's obviously key. Though triathletes don't need this level of flexibility, the more the better leading to increased efficiency in the water.
I agree that intervals will help your speed. But you must build a huge aerobic base before diving in to that. Many people get confused about their own aerobic base, by that I mean thinking it is big enough for intervals. Just becuase you can swim say 1000m, doesn't mean your ready, you need to be able to swim a long distance at a relatively lower HR and not be exhausted afterwords. Before you get started on intervals, you must first correct all form issues, not 100%, but you must have an efficient stroke first. So let me ask you a few questions.
1.) Can you swim 100m with a tennis ball(or similar object), under your chin and hold it there while you rotate(from the hips) to breath?
2.) do you rotate from the hips when you breath?
3.) Are you bending your elbow at the beginning of your pull phase?
4.) Where is your hand in relation to your body when you finish the push phase and begin the recovery phase?
So lets assume you have good form, before you start doing intevals can you comfortably swim 2000-3000m? If not then skip intervals till you build a bigger aerobic base. Good luck, let me know if you have further questions or would like some sets or training plans for your races, I have put together a decent plan for a sprints that I used this year with much success.
Anthony: I have not heard about the tennis ball thing under the chin. Can you go into further detail? The person who has been coaching me stressed the importance of hip rotation, but I still struggle breathing on the left side. (right side is smooth and fluid).
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It's been more than 15 years since massively multiplayer online games (MMOs) made their way to mainstream consciousness. "Ultima Online," "EverQuest" and "World of Warcraft" were titles that grabbed gamers' imaginations, and gamers, in turn, built a subculture around the phenomenon.
The genre's influence has since bled into other forms of media as well, including films, Web shows and anime, which has produced two intriguing series, "Log Horizon" and "Sword Art Online." Both are animated serials based on a premise in which players get stuck in their respective virtual worlds. While "Log Horizon" has a more fascinating mythology, it's "Sword Art Online" that has the more thrilling setup.
In the anime, 10,000 early adopters are trapped in the titular MMO. For some mysterious reason, the game's creator won't let them log out, and if they happen to die in the virtual world of Aincrad, the players perish in real life -- fried by the virtual reality device hooked to their brains. To survive, the players must venture through all 100 levels of the game.
And that leads us back full circle to "Sword Art Online: Hollow Fragment." The second installment in the "Sword Art" series, it is, like its predecessor, a game based on an anime that's set in a fictional video game.
But fans of the anime will discover that the game diverges in a big way. In "Hollow Fragment," players take on the role Kirito, the best player of "Sword Art Online," who defeats the game's creator. But instead of escaping, as in the anime, the game offers an alternate storyline in which Kirito and his friends are still imprisoned in pixels.
Starting from level 76, they must scale the remaining dungeons. The developer, Bandai Namco, also throws in a few surprises in these "lost levels," such as unexpected characters who fall into Aincrad because of a glitch in the system. All of this makes "Hollow Fragment" feel more like playable fan fiction than a seamless extension of the series.
The fact that the team built a dating sim into the gameplay doesn't help matters. Although the sim lets players explore character back stories, it's awkward and throws off any sense of plot logic. It also distracts from the good job the developer did capturing the feel of the "Sword Art Online" world. Everything from the grayed "log out" option in the menu to the monster design feels right.
When it comes to gameplay, the combat mimics the feel of an MMO, even borrowing concepts such as pulling one monster from a large group to take it down in a two-person team. Although that part is easy to understand, the finer points of the system aren't explained well and are unnecessarily complicated. Worse yet, the leveling system is a maze of stats and mystifying skill trees.
It takes a while to figure out, and that hurdle, along with the pacing and the typo-ridden translations, are the biggest flaws. "Hollow Fragment" will appeal to hard-core "Sword Art" fans, but for newcomers without the vested interest in these characters, the game is a confusing mess.
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Area briefs: Four Tigers earn ACC indoor accolades
Published: Friday, March 15, 2013 at 3:15 a.m.
Last Modified: Saturday, March 16, 2013 at 12:41 a.m.
Clemson produced four award winners for the 2013 indoor track and field season, the Atlantic Coast Conference announced Friday. The No. 6 ranked women's team swept the ACC honors, producing the league's Track Athlete of the Year in Brianna Rollins, Field Athlete of the Year in Brittney Waller, and Freshman of the Year in Mimi Land. Tevin Hester from the men's team was named ACC Indoor Freshman of the Year, giving Clemson a clean sweep of the top rookie honors.
... The track and field team completed its first day of the Charlotte 49er Classic. Brianna Blanton was the top performer in the women's 1,500 meters, finishing second overall.
SOUTH CAROLINA: On the opening night of Carolina Softball Stadium, the softball team fell 6-4 to Alabama.
... The women's tennis team fell 4-2 to Tennessee.
... Eight Gamecock track and field athletes finished in the top five of their events on Friday at the Hurricane Invitational in Miami.
... Head equestrian coach Boo Major announced the signing of Amelia Vernon to a national letter of intent.
USC UPSTATE: The USC Upstate men's and women's track and field teams kicked off the outdoor season, setting four school records at the Charlotte 49er Classic.
LIMESTONE: The men's volleyball team defeated Barton College 3-0 (25-21, 34-32, 25-22).
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The Eagle Valley High School Nordic Ski Team fared well at last week's state meet at Winter Park.
The EVHS boys took third place in both the freestyle and classic events while the girls took fifth in freestyle and sixth in classic. Additionally team member Megan Muehanthaler earned third place honors in the Skimeister event that combines both Nordic and Alpine disciplines.
Back at the EVHS school gym, the Devils have four wrestlers headed to the state tournament in Denver this week. Seniors Ty LaFramboise, Andy Armstrong, Joey Sanchez and Cole Nielsen will be representing EVHS against the best wrestlers in the state.
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Eagle County 4-H Volunteers are pleased to announce the return of the Rocky Mountain Oyster Fry 4-H Benefit on Saturday, March 16, at the Eagle River Center.
Dinner will be served from 6 to 8 p.m. followed by a live auction featuring western artwork, golf-passes, mountain cabin getaways and more. Local award-winning band Sometown will be playing until midnight. A cash bar will be open all evening.
Tickets are available from 4-H members or at the door. The prices are $15 for adults, $10 for children (ages 6-12), and $10 for seniors (62 and older). Children age 5 and under are free.
All proceeds from the event will go to 4-H scholarships, the Greg Burton Memorial Scholarship and Eagle County Fair Awards.
The 10th Mountain Roller Dolls are looking for new volunteers and skaters to learn the sport of women's flat track roller derby.
Volunteers are an integral part of the roller derby league. During a roller derby game, which is called a bout, there are three teams out on the track - the two teams that are playing each other and the team of officials that make it possible. A full roster for each skating team is 16 and there are 21 officials, all volunteers. Volunteer opportunities include NSO (non-skating official), Referee (skating officials), announcer and more.
Come skate with coaches Mistress Medusa and Die'an Grenade to experience this unique brand of fun on eight wheels. Roller derby is a contact sport that fosters physical and mental skills as players are required to simultaneously play offense and defense.
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The Eagle Valley Rod and Gun Club is accepting applications for its 2013 scholarship award.
Two $600 scholarships will be awarded. Applicants must complete a l,500- to 600-word essay (typed and double spaced) on the topic: "How do the current and pending gun laws and legislation before Congress affect you, your school experience and your future college or continuing education campus experience?"
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U.S. Senator Mark Udall, Colorado Mesa University and University of Colorado announce that 100 Coloradans will be selected to attend the 2013 Colorado Capital Conference in Washington, D.C., June 5-7.
The annual non-partisan conference is designed to give residents from every corner of Colorado a better understanding of the federal legislative process by giving them the opportunity to interact with members of Congress, the president's cabinet and other opinion leaders in Washington, D.C.
"It is a great honor to once again co-host the annual Colorado Capital Conference with Colorado Mesa University and University of Colorado. This conference offers a diverse group of Coloradans a unique perspective of the legislative process in Washington, D.C., and lets them directly engage with political leaders on both sides of the aisle," Udall said. "This educational forum will give participants the knowledge and skills to join the larger conversation on public policy, while interacting with a group of civic-minded Coloradans and national policy makers."
Colorado Mesa University President Tim Foster said he is pleased that the university is again a sponsor.
"The Colorado Capital Conference provides a great opportunity for people from all walks of life to see their government up close and learn how to influence the process," Foster said. "Anyone interested in public policy and the future of our country should consider applying."
University of Colorado President Bruce Benson said the conference will provide an in-depth look at the federal government.
"The University of Colorado is honored to co-host the Colorado Capitol Conference, which affords Coloradans a unique opportunity to engage in the federal arena and to hear from leaders on issues affecting their local communities, the State of Colorado and the nation," Benson said.
Participants who represent a diverse cross-section of the state will be selected through an application process. All applications must be postmarked no later than March 18. Conference participants will be announced April 2. Participants are responsible for their own airfare and accommodations. There is a $300 registration fee, which covers most meals. For more information on the conference or to apply, visit http://markudall.senate.gov/capitalconference2013 or call 970-270-5594.
• This year's selection for the Eagle Public Library Russian literature reading club is "Lolita" by Vladimir Nabokov. Copies of "Lolita" are available at the circulation desk at the Eagle Public Library. For more information, call 970-328-8800. Book club participants will meet on Tuesday, Feb. 26, for celebratory zakuski (hors d' oeuvres) and discussion.
• William Parker of Eagle, a senior College of Arts and Sciences student at Creighton University, was named to the fall Dean's List for the 2012-2013 academic year. Full-time students who earn a 3.5 grade-point average or better on a 4.0 scale are eligible for the Dean's Honor Roll. Creighton University, a Catholic, Jesuit institution, is located in Omaha, Neb.


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share 1
1A part or portion of a larger amount that is divided among a number of people, or to which a number of people contribute: under the proposals, investors would pay a greater share of the annual fees required we gave them all the chance to have a share in the profits
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- After all, the city contributes a major share to the State's revenues.
- Two shares went to the captain, one and a half shares to the quartermaster, and one share each to the crew members.
- How can a beneficiary group in need of drinking water be forced to contribute a share of the cost of water supply?
helping, serving
1.1Part proprietorship of property held by joint owners: Jake had a share in a large seagoing vessel
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- How can a partner protect his or her share of joint property?
- The investment trust specialises in property shares and property assets.
- This has not yet occurred; therefore, your husband holds the property or his share of the property in trust for you.
1.2 [in singular] The allotted or due amount of something that a person expects to have or to do, or that is expected to be accepted or done by them: she's done more than her fair share of globe-trotting
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- One of the key arguments presented in favour regional government was Yorkshire's failure to receive a fair share of public funding.
- Yes, the government takes a fair share of the stick but they turn right around and blame the actual crime on young people.
- I hope you found at least a portion of my posts as informative, and laughed at a fair share of them as well.
2One of the equal parts into which a company's capital is divided, entitling the holder to a proportion of the profits: they bought 33 shares of American Standard
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- Seats entitle their holders to buy and sell shares on the exchange floor, and brokers say the price is an important measure of market sentiment.
- Holders of income shares got all the income earned from the trust, while holders of capital shares got all the capital gain.
- The allure of these fund groups is that there are no restrictions on how often an investor can buy and sell fund shares.
3An instance of posting or reposting something on a social media website or application: there have been 25,000 shares on Twitter and 117 likes on Facebook as of 7:30 p.m.
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- Do longer articles get more shares on Facebook?
- Comments, "likes" and shares on Facebook, as well as retweets and favorites on Twitter, can indicate what topics and subjects your followers found interesting and valuable.
- We work with brands that are about inspiration and find that quotes get more reactions and shares on Facebook that any other posts.
verb[with object]
1Have a portion of (something) with another or others: he shared the pie with her all members of the band equally share the band's profits
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- In the present case those communings point to the three parties sharing distributable profits equally.
- Arrangement and general performance will each attract 40 points, with tone and rhythm equally sharing the remainder.
- He was searching a field at Sutton-on-the-Forest with the permission of the landowner on the understanding that the proceeds of any finds were shared equally.
split, divide, go halves on
informal go fifty-fifty on, go Dutch on
1.1Give a portion of (something) to another or others: money raised will be shared between the two charities
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- Yes, in certain circumstances the beneficiaries to a will can obtain a 'deed of variation' to rearrange how the estate is shared out.
- 'There isn't another team with two strikers up there so it's good that the goals are shared out,' he said.
- He added that he wanted to ensure that the defence reshuffle was shared out fairly throughout the UK and urged local MPs to make their opinions known.
carve up, divvy up
1.2Use, occupy, or enjoy (something) jointly with another or others: they once shared a house in the Hamptons [no object]: there weren't enough plates, so we had to share (as adjective shared) a shared bottle of wine
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- I was able to talk with him about his genre of music, the new album, who his musical idols are and who he enjoyed sharing the stage with most.
- Now she enjoys sharing the house with her daughter Tanya.
- The babies enjoy sharing a cot and seem to be happiest when side-by-side.
1.3Possess (a view or quality) in common with others: other countries don't share our reluctance to eat goat meat
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- But to then say that this is somehow proof of some kind of development vote as opposed to sharing a common view is open to different interpretation.
- This will be achieved by learning from our past and sharing a common view with our suppliers of how to grow sales and lower costs.
- He shares the common view that America's most significant mistake was to abandon the nation to its unhappy fate following the Soviet withdrawal.
1.4 [no object] (share in) (Of a number of people or organizations) have a part in (something, especially an activity): the companies would share in the development of three oil platforms
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- Not to share in the activity and passion of your time is to count as not having lived.
- Special ceremonies would not be complete without participants sharing in a meal.
- Teaching never was a profession to enter for big cash rewards but it did once share in the hierarchies it protected.
participate in, take part in, play a part in, be involved in, contribute to, have a hand in, partake in
1.5Tell someone about (something), especially something personal: she had never shared the secret with anyone before
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- He told the boys: 'I don't usually tell people,' and they humbly thanked him for sharing something so personal with them.
- Gradually he began sharing a few personal details.
- Now I don't normally like sharing something this personal with the world because it's the kind of thing that can come back and bite you.
1.6Post or repost (something) on a social media website or application: the app lets you share your photos on Facebook, Twitter, and Tumblr
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- You can also embed video into Word documents, or share a document directly on Facebook.
- Erika's been sharing the joy by sharing her pictures on Facebook.
- On Facebook the article was shared 2,756 times, also generating tens of thousands of clicks.
share and share alike
- Having or receiving an equal share: their representatives shared the inheritance share and share alikeMore example sentences
- Ironically, it was the Lewis and Clark expedition that gave York a serious opportunity to share and share alike in demands and responsibilities of men, white and black.
- Just remember, it's share and share alike in the Fiore family.
- Only one of them has the right one, and the three don't trust each other to share and share alike.
share a moment
- see moment.
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- Flats appeal to people without kids - young professionals, sharers, retired couples and first-time buyers - whereas most properties with three or more beds and a garden appeal to families.
- The sharers and I didn't have the best relationship in the first place, but when I managed to sell the house they were renting (which they knew was on the market), things became heated.
- They shared stories of how they paint their cars yellow and cruise the streets looking for potential ride sharers…
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Short for plowshare.
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With the Ping G25 Hybrid, the center of gravity (CG) position is lower and farther back in the lower-lofted hybrids and progresses slightly forward in the higher lofts to help minimize spin and prevent ballooning (common in higher-lofted hybrids). Custom engineering of the CG helps to achieve proper trajectories and creates functional distance gaps between clubs.
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Faced with a potential $296 billion shortfall over the next decade to maintain and expand California's aging highway and transit systems, Bay Area leaders are throwing their full support behind an attempt to reduce the voter-approval threshold from two-thirds to 55 percent for transportation sales taxes.
In a memo to the Metropolitan Transportation Commission, director Steve Heminger said: "While MTC has supported legislative efforts to seek voter approval to lower the vote threshold for transportation taxes, with Democrats now controlling two-thirds of the seats in both houses, 2013 is the first year that the proposal has some real potential to pass the Legislature and be placed on the ballot."
If the proposed constitutional amendment by state Sen. Carol Liu, D-Pasadena, is approved by the Legislature, it would be placed on the statewide ballot in 2014 and could be adopted by a simple majority vote. The Legislature can place constitutional amendments on the ballot without the governor's signature.
The two-thirds mandate is an offshoot of Prop. 13, the landmark 1978 measure that rolled back property taxes and capped yearly increases until a property is sold. In 1995, the two-thirds requirement was extended to include taxes for transportation projects listed on the ballot.
Jon Coupal, president of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association, said he thinks a ballot battle is possible, especially after Proposition 30 won last fall. That temporary measure increased the state sales tax rate for all taxpayers and the personal income tax rates for upper-income taxpayers.
"It could happen," Coupal said of the possibility that Liu's bill could be approved by the Legislature and go before voters. "Prop. 30 has whetted the appetite of those who want more government revenue, even though California now has the highest income tax and sales tax in America, and now they want to make it easier to impose more. But it's not good public policy."
Carl Guardino, head of the Silicon Valley Leadership Group, has led several sales tax efforts in the South Bay and supports a 55 percent threshold, but he said, "Past polling makes it look rocky."
The effort comes at a time when funding sources are drying up. Last year, the California Transportation Commission released a report saying it expects to get $242 billion in federal, state and local funds through 2020 -- about 45 percent of what is needed, or a $296 billion shortfall.
Stimulus funds have been spent to repave hundreds of miles of streets and freeways in the Bay Area, and a $20 billion bond measure approved by voters seven years ago to widen highways has also been spent.
In addition, the state gas tax has not been raised in nearly 20 years, and the increased popularity of electric vehicles and hybrid cars, along with higher federal fuel efficiency requirements, mean gas tax revenues are declining.
"There is nothing in the pipeline to fill the gap," said Russell Snyder, executive director of the California Asphalt Pavement Association. "It also doesn't help matters much that Congress can't seem to get it together on one of the most mom and apple pie issues -- transportation funding. It's a pretty grim scenario."
Several Bay Area counties have managed to pass transportation sales taxes despite the two-thirds mandate, and BART and AC Transit have enacted parcel taxes to support their systems.
In 2008, Santa Clara County voters approved by a razor-thin margin a one-eighth-cent sales tax increase to pay to operate the BART extension into the county. Without that tax, the Federal Transit Administration would not have allocated $900 million in federal funds for the extension, and work would not have begun.
Last fall, an Alameda County measure to raise sales tax by a penny failed by about 700 votes, killing funds for widening northbound I-680 through Fremont, replacing the I-580-I-680 interchange and upgrading BART.
Alameda County Supervisor Scott Haggerty said the narrow defeat provides a strong argument for changing the passage threshold to 55 percent.
"I still believe we live in a world where majority rules," said Haggerty, a longtime MTC board member. "You can talk a lot about what is the magic number for a threshold. I think 55 percent is reasonable."
Making matters more pressing, said Heminger, was the passage of Prop. 26 in 2010, as it applied the two-thirds requirement to virtually all forms of transportation revenue that might be pursued at the local level -- such as vehicle registration fees.
"This hurdle only exacerbates the funding shortfalls," Heminger said.
Staff writer Denis Cuff contributed to this report. Contact Gary Richards at 408-920-5335.
Source: Metropolitan Transportation Commission