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Liverpool Message Board
Barca stuffed ...again ?
For second time in four days we watched Barca struggle against a tactically superior Real side. Noticable that Real fielded four midfielders attackers of 6ft plus and they were always a serious threat from crosses and set pieces corners..whereas Barca with their short side were no real threat at all from set pieces and again found them hard to defend against a fast muscular Real side. Once again Tici Taca has let them down, though to be fair think they should defo have been awarded a pen in last minute. Overall though have to admit Real once again good value for their win no question whatsoever that most neutrals Im sure would agree. Brendan Rogers ...is it time to mix up our playbook and think of bringing in one or two players in this transfer window a little taller than 5ft 8inch and 10 stone weight ?Sort: Newest | Oldest | Most Replied Expand all replies
Loki...Paddy seems to understand what Im getting at here...I think u see me as an "enemy" of the Rogers can do no wrong Camp and thus exhibit a prejuidice against anything I put up on here for fear of if u side with me on any given point u could be seen by others on the board in the Rogers can do no wrong Camp of being in some way anti-Rogers u self. You seem to feel Im unhappy with yesterdays result at Wigan just because I stated statistically they had the better of it yesterday...Im on record onthe board yesterday as being delighted with our display and great 4.0 win and great to see Pepe back in form again. A little humour is called for where my statement about prefering two 10.0 wins over UniTURD to a League Title is concerned ....phrase "tongue in cheek" comes to mind.
Although TWO 10.0 wins over UniTURD in a season...its a very difficult choice to have to make.
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I'd like to state state clearly why I support Rodgers at this poitn and why I am almost a complete opposite to my English spelt namesake and colleague above.
Firstly despite the odd fumble in the press and the variation in results and performances I which I find as frustrating as anyone I am trying to look deeper into the changes that are being made at the club.
To me there's almost an ignorance about the state of the club not so long ago. It was masked by cup wins and various other bist and bobs but not only was the club on the rocks financially the playing side was also in complete disarray. I don't think that we can thanks FSG enough for pulling us out of the financial mire.
The playing side is down to Rodgers and while things may not have gone brilliantly this season so far I think the last 2 seasons have been on the cards for some time. Rodgers is pullingthe club together from top to bottom. That can only be a good thing where every player understands the tactics and style of play we will use. Secondly we're trying to play an attractive form of football. again that's good as the club was renowned for it and that brings support on its own.
It's far from perfect but I think we've chosen the right path. Whether I (and FSG) are right or not remains to be seen but I honestly believe that the club needed a complete overhaul. And I mean everything down to the tea lady. That's happening and I think it's a good thing. The last time this happened it worked out quite well.
Personally I'd take any win over United. Ultimately I'd love to see us on the top of the PL pile at the end of a season and that to happen while Ole Red Nose is still managing "Them".
Hey Loki
I think your second para may have missed Colin's point. He was saying that possession stats/chances don't mean anything if you're not scoring goals and was using Wigan as an example of that. To be fair to Colin, he's been consistent with that all along.
I'd take the title every time but oh for the choice eh? :-)
I really hope that FSG get the wallet open (again) in the summer for the proven, class players that BR has alluded to. I think it would give him the ability to have a real go at a top 4 finish next season and we could judge him fairly at the end of it.
Colin, you have to take into consideration that Barca haven't got a manager at the moment. Some people may find it easy to say that they are quality players and do not need a manager to inspire them to victories after victories. Tito Vilanova's cancer relapse, since Christmas has most definitely affected the team. At the start to the middle of the season, they were breaking all sorts of records hence the reason why they are 12 points clear. Vilanova's influence is sorely missed. He is their leader and is highly respected by his team so IMO I wouldn't read too much in Barca's recently poor form.
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dsteer_lfc_68 dsteer_lfc_68 Mar 4, 2013 18:06 Flag
I think this is a very salient point, and one missed by the majority of people on this post. I'm not a big follower of football in Spain, and only look at highlights now and then, but when was the last time anyone saw a Barca player sent off because he's talking back to the ref about a non-call? They have, for years been a very disciplined team, working as one, implementing the system to near perfection. But to me it's that discipline which has broken down, and it makes me really wonder is it because there is just not the leadership at the moment.
Colin, why do you care so much about Barca? They have few similarities to Liverpool.For example, we play with strikers and they use the so-called 'false number 9' system.
You want us to mix it up like Real but are they not also one-trick ponies? Counter-attack all the way, soak it up and hit on the break just like all Mourinho's teams do? I would hate us to play like that all game. Anyway, wasn't Suarez's third goal a counter-attack? I really do feel you aren't reading the game correctly if you think we don't mix it up.
I seriously don't understand anyone who is unhappy with how things are going at the moment. Just look at the goals for and against in the last 10 games!
You talk about the height of the team. Coutinho set up 2 goals today! Arguably the greatest player in history - Messi - had to have hormone injections just to have a few extra inches. Then there is that giant, Maradona, our own King Kenny is 5'7'' and wasnt Pele just 5'8''? All short @rses.
The only thing that matters is winning, which we are doing consistently now after a few growing pains at the start of the season. I'm sure there will be some more growing pains as well.
What I object to about your post is you are castigating Rodgers about a transfer window that hasnt even happened yet! Who knows what the profile of player he has in mind for the summer?
Ive got to admit, I haven't a clue what you mean so you need to explain it to me because it seems hypocritical to me to sl@g the manager off for copying one team and then recommending that they actually copy another.
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Colin has it in for Rodgers. He has his opinion and is off loading with both barrels. I agree Liverpool are no way near Barca. The style of our game is different with the only similarity that really stands out being possession. I think that's a good thing especially if you have European ambitions. One other big thing we do have in common however is that Rodgers and FSG have set up the academies and youth sides to play in the exact same way as the first team. Basically they've set an ethos up that runs right through the whole club. everybody does the same thing, the same way. Whoever thinks that is a bad thing is just simply plainly off their rocker.
Good win yesterday but the stats also make interesting reading. On paper there's a small argument to say that Wigan had the better of the game. They had more possession, more shots, more corners etc. At last however I can say we were more clinical.
I also agree that a false nine is pants. I think, and we do especially need a real focal point to our attack.
As a final point Barca will adapt. That I'm sure of. It wouldn't surprise me to see a striker there next season and the full backs being used to really stretch defenses out wide and get behind them. It's not as if they haven't got the skill levels is it?
Finally I also agree that its still early days in Rodgers tenure. The task he faced was huge, the pace of change may be too much for some to appreciate but in my book the club seriously needed it.
Loki...check my post with my thoughts on the Wigan game nothing negative all optimism I was overjoyed with 4 goals and Louis Suarez what more can anybody say ? Pure genius ! I think we need a couple big lads at the back and a bit of muscle up front to help out Louis and Surridge someone who is proven World Class striker and can hold the ball up a bit for either Sturridge or Louis or both. Thats all just an opinion...plus Im not saying our playbook is an imitation of Barca's not at all but I am saying that, it is clear to a blind man that that is who BR is modeling his style on overall and all Im doing in setting up this thread is pointing out that when Barca come up against quality Tici Taca lets them dowsn ..say what u like about how many they have lost in La Liga whatever they are out of Copa del Ray and were soundly beaten today and willprobably soon be out of ECLC too cos tici Taca is letting them down when they come up against real quality. Im just not a believer in the idea that Tici Taca is the Holy Grail for those that are fine but not for me. Just for the record I was surprised just how ineffective Barca were today had expected more from them.
Funny that just from the title of the thread, it was obvious where this was going..
Since I truly don't look at any other board, I've got to guess that we're probably the only clubs' supporters board, who find more faults rather than positives, with the team/manager, after wins.
This Wigan side around the same time last year, went to Anfield and won 2-1, in a dull, boring, uninspired performance, amongst others (Fulham 0-1, Wba 0-1, Swans 0-1) down the stretch, with our squad that had several players over 5'8, including Kuyt and a 6'4 striker who didn't start. Yet today, we slaughter Wigan, (twice now, 7-0, after dropping 4 pts last yr) fighting for their Prem lives, & could have been a bogey hole like they were to Ud last season at DW, 1-0.
The funniest irony of it all, is that our 1st goal came from a Coutinho cross, to the most unlikely of sources, Downing, to nod home for his 2nd goal of the season, 2 more than he had all of last. So what's to complain about? We actually had less possession until the end, played several long balls from the back, several crosses into the box, & counter attacking football ie- Madrid (who are still 15 pts adrift of Barca, with only 2 trophies under Mourinho to Barca's 1000, in his time there)
We have scored more goals than any other team, including the leaders Utd and holders City, since the turn of the year with 22, and have 53 goals so far, with 10 games to play!!! We should exceed 60, when we only scored 47 last year, while "mixing it up"...
By the way, we won 4-0. Great performance, well done to all the lads, and whoever bought Coutinho, picked the side, and the tactics. YNWA!


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Social Problem
Uncover, prevent bullying in schools
February 1, 2013
The little 11-year-old girl in London, Ohio, frequently came home from school crying, her parents told police this week....
Although bullying existed in my day at school(1950s),it was not as widespread as now. I believe that lack of parental discipline(which did not exist in the 1950s),idolizing musicians who lack morals in their rap music(a form of expressing hatred),inadequate TV exposure(in the 1950s youth were not exposed to violence,but family values on tv,such as seen on Make Room for Daddy & Leave it to Beaver),the dechristianization of society as well as the current one parent society that are all causing low self esteem among the youth,thus increasing bullying among them.This is a social problem created directly by cultural change evolution that is harming the once stable and functional family of the past.Returning to a 1950s culture,I believe,would reduce the lack of self esteem and the resultant excessive and uncontrollable bullying we see today.
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Bullying is wrong-but where were the parents while all this is going on. In my opinion if a parent is truly doing their job-a child starts school with a sense of worth and self esteme and is encouraged to come to their parents with problems-full knowing that they won't be judged of shamed and will betreated with unconditional love. Apparently not all of those things were givne to this child.
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Bullying is mean, this is true. But hows about we stop raising a generation of emotional cripples. Raise your children with a work ethic and morals that will give them self esteem. Kids/adults who feel good about themselves don't obsess about what others think and/or spend all their waking hours creeping on social media sites.
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I call BS. Time and time again teachers and administrators ignore bully tactics, and engage in them themselves "bad kid fort"...
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This is so sad. The article is right on. The school administrators and teachers do not tolerate bullying. But the bullies are slick, and only do these things when they won't get caught.
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NEW CITY, N.Y. (WOMENSENEWS)--Phyllis B. Frank founded a program in 1978 to counter domestic violence through workshops for men. It was the first batterer-intervention program in the state and among the first in the country.
Thirty years later, the director of the VCS Community Change Project, located in New City, a suburb about 45 minutes north of New York, finishes off the opening paragraph of a grant application and spins in her chair to face a reporter's question about such programs.
"Batterer programs are a dumping ground," Frank says flatly. "We send men here, and we think we're doing something. I decided at one point the best possible thing I could do would be to close."
But Frank did not shut down the program.
Instead, during the 1990s she redefined its goals--aligning it more with sentencing and court-order enforcement than rehabilitation--and began to develop what would become known as the New York model.
"The original model, which we were making up as we went along, was a six-week program," she says. In group sessions, the program aimed to stop men from being abusive through stress-reduction techniques and "time-outs."
Today her group operates 12 sites, to which courts can send men with misdemeanor domestic convictions. They attend classes for an hour and 15 minutes once a week, for six months to a year.
Rather than trying to address the behavior of the individual men, trainers discuss key tenets of the battered women's movement. The uniting principle of the curriculum is that domestic violence is couched in a history of oppression and male privilege; the sessions are dedicated to unpacking and presenting that history.
The program also imposes its own rules, requiring, for example, that men arrive on time, with full payment for the session (no change is made), and stay awake throughout the sessions.
Since altering the behavior of the men is not a goal--and good performance in the course is no indicator of whether men continue to abuse intimate partners--the program does not measure its success on how it is received.
Keeping Court Contact
Jim McDowell, the program's court liaison, keeps in close contact with court officials. If men fail to meet program requirements such as regular attendance, payment and respectful behavior, staffers can send them back to court to face official sanctions. That may mean being ordered back to the program for another 26 weeks, or even jail time.
"On our end, we hold men supremely accountable for what we can hold them accountable for," says Frank.
In 1977, New York changed its laws to permit battered spouses to pursue criminal charges. Prior to that change, domestic violence cases were heard exclusively by family courts. Over the decades, the state has gradually shifted domestic violence matters to the criminal courts, although the family courts still hear many cases.
But Frank says judges are often reluctant to impose maximum sentences and may not always impose sanctions when sentencing orders are violated.
"In the state of New York," she says, "traffic tickets and speeding tickets get more serious attention than domestic violence cases."
In New York state--where much of the research on batterer programs is focused--many courts and service providers agree with Frank's shift away from rehabilitation and toward accountability.
Robert Davis, a senior research analyst at the Rand Corporation, the government policy-focused think tank in Washington, has extensively researched batterer programs and domestic violence prevention. Most recently, he studied offenders in a Bronx, N.Y., program and found that men who had gone through the court-ordered program were as likely to re-offend as those who had not.
"I think the whole idea you can re-educate people is wrong," says Davis. "I don't think in 26 hours or less, you can change the way someone thinks about something."
Michael Rempel, an author of several leading studies on batterer programs, says studies focused on whether batterers re-offend are bound to turn out badly because they are looking for an outcome for which the programs were not designed.
'Sanction in Lieu of Nothing'
"The original rationale for these programs wasn't necessarily rehabilitation," says Rempel. "It was to provide a sanction in lieu of doing nothing. What happened was that people pinned their hopes to batterer programs, that they could also be rehabilitative, and began studying them for their effectiveness in that way.
"It gave courts something to do with domestic violence cases where legal methods couldn't elicit a jail sentence," says Rempel, research director at the Center for Court Innovation, a New York think tank that studies courts and criminal justice agencies. "They turned to batterer programs as better than nothing."
States around the country have been moving toward harsher punishment for domestic violence since the 1980s. In the mid-1990s, states also began developing specialized domestic-violence courts, where judges and lawyers are attuned to the issues facing victims. There are now about 300 of these around the country.
The roots of many intervention programs begin with service providers in Duluth, Minn., who in 1980 teamed with battered-women's advocates to develop a curriculum for counseling and educating abusers.
Using a group-therapy format, they aimed to teach men about the framework of sexual and social politics that informed their behavior, and their responsibility for the choices they made. This style, now known widely as the Duluth model, spread in the early 1980s.
Programs Proliferate
In her research, Frank has identified 2,600 batterer programs nationwide, although she thinks the actual number is much higher. "I think you can double that number. These programs are springing up left and right."
Rempel said the group therapy format spawned by the Duluth model is attractive to cash-strapped agencies because it is relatively inexpensive and "easier to implement on a large scale." But while such groups may be helpful in other situations, such as substance-abuse treatment, Rempel said they did not translate well to batterer programs.
"You have men inclined toward violence in a room talking to each other about what they do," said Rempel. Instead of producing positive change, Rempel found the sessions often led to men reinforcing their violent tendencies toward women.
"Unstructured self-help groups have actually been shown to produce worse outcomes," he said. "You just have the men in there talking, and you can imagine the kind of counterproductive results that produces."
In New York, because of their exposure to recent research, Rempel said many programs are increasingly being treated as one of several sentencing options, a form of punishment rather than rehabilitation, in other words.
Elsewhere in the country, however, many courts still hope they will prevent or cure family violence.
"Nationally, I think judges think batterer programs work," says Rempel. "It's not that these people are silly thinkers, it just takes time for research to disseminate."
Francesca Levy is a Brooklyn-based freelance writer and a student at the CUNY Graduate School of Journalism. Her work has appeared in New York City newspapers including the New York Press, the West Side Spirit, the Villager, Chelsea Now and the New York City News Service.
This story, part of our New Writers Program, was funded by the McCormick Tribune Foundation.
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first, sorry for my bad english.
I´m using PMS a long time, it really works fine. But now i have a little problem with DVD Iso.
The ps3 always show the DVD structure, when i start the DVD Iso File, but i didn´t want to see that. I only want to see the movie, like the time before.
Whats going wrong?


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OpenOffice.org is probably the biggest free software project in existence today. It certainly is the biggest single piece of software one can download and compile in one go, with the core package hitting over the 100MB mark (while bzip'd) and the total sources going over 200MB.
It directly competes with Microsoft Office, is a bit more easy to install than KOffice, and is very complete.
But what will you get?
You don't usually compile OpenOffice.org (OOo for short) yourself. The first reason: it's HUGE: it needs 9GB of free disk space to compile successfully with default options. Second, it's LONG—plan at least a day for the initial build if your system isn't a powerhouse with a dozen gigabytes of RAM. And third, you probably already have a version compiled for your system.
I will explore the highly active OOo 2.x code line here; the older 1.1.x code line may work on older systems and many UNIXes (IRIX, AIX, Linux/Sparc), but it is too limited to remain interesting.
Supported ports
Right now the following operating systems have supported, native, recent versions:
- Windows NT 5 (2000, XP, Vista)
- GNU/Linux x86 (starting with kernel 2.2.16, glibc2 2.6 and X11R6)
- Solaris 8 on SPARC or on x86
- MacOS X 10.3.5 PowerPC and x86 with Apple's X11 compatibility layer
The evolution from the original 2.0.0 version to the current 2.2.1rc version is a very good example of free software development at its best. While there was no real breathtaking options and features added, the suite has known an incredible progress stemming essentially from code cleanup and UI refining.
In fact, OOo has a dedicated project for usability, and another project dedicated to performance improvements.
As a matter of fact, the MacOS and x86-64 ports reaped most of the benefits from these cleanups, but the original Windows, GNU/Linux and Solaris ports also saw many refinements added:
- OOo 2.0 was already much faster to load than 1.1.x; current 2.2.1rc is even faster, opening in only a few seconds, parsing files much faster, and is generally more nimble in most cases.
- Stability is without common measure: nowadays, even the untested developer builds seldom crash; the highly efficient recovery wizard sees very little use, and works very well in those rare cases where you crash (or voluntary kill) your OOo session.
- System resources are less taxed: reduced memory leaks, reduced memory footprint, lower CPU use never hurt.
- Reliance upon a Java VM has steadily decreased; you used to need Sun's JVM for OOo 2.0 to work correctly, now gcj 4.x (and others) works well enough and several effects that required Java before are now native, making OOo highly usable even without a JVM.
Moreover, so as to provide a better user experience, icon sets, toolbars, controls, print panels and file pickers more and more use the OS's native elements over OOo's integrated ones.
Partially working/third-party support/alpha stage ports
The following systems are known to have a working version of a recent OOo revision (2.2 at this time):
- FreeBSD 5.3,6,7 on x86 and x86-64 (supported by the FreeBSD project) pretty much work
- OpenBSD, with a few system settings can run the GNU/Linux x86 version as-is
- GNU/Linux x86-64 is yet unsupported but actively developed by the OOo-build and Porting projects and is highly usable—when you can find a binary
- MacOS X 10.3.9 PowerPC and x86 without X11 has reached pre-alpha stage; testers are required
OOo is probably most well-known for its numerous translations; listing them here would eat up a bit too much space, but you can read it here: OOo l10n matrix. It may be a bit outdated in how it reports localization completeness; however, it is complete.
Too bad, it seems the Klingon version is now abandoned...
Planned improvements
For a long time now, OOo has supported the execution of very simple Visual Basic for Applications (VBA) macros. This support is getting expanded now at a fast pace, directly supported by Sun, Novell, and the OOo project. It is still far from complete and requires extensive testing with real-world Excel documents (hint: send your macros!), but it is slowly getting there.
Interestingly, it may soon be the only way for Mac users to run VBA macros in OOXML files on their machines, as Microsoft Office 2008 will completely drop VBA in favor of AppleScript.
Another option which will soon reach fruition is the integration and improvement of the OOXML import/export module in "vanilla" OOo. The original Novell implementation was far from efficient, yet this time the OOo community may get it in just right. The difficulty here is, yet again, the scarcity of OOXML-based files on which to perform tests, on top of the completely different specifications for word processor files, spreadsheet files and presentation files—while ODF makes little difference between the three, sharing as much as is possible from one file type to the other.
A long time of suffering is about to end: those of you who like to extensively use graphs and charts will be happy to learn that a completely revamped charts module is finished and integrated in m213. This module fixes a truckload of charts bugs on top of providing better Excel charts imports and more charts options.
And last, a PDF import module is being evaluated. Don't hold your breath though, PDF is notoriously difficult to import—just ask the guys of KOffice or of Ghostscript what they think about it...
While OOo is very well known for its very strong fonts metrics support and very good style management, the interface is limited: you can't edit pages side by side or in a mosaics form, which would allow you to optimize screen space. Unfortunately, apart from a little change in default settings, this won't change before version 3.0 due to some heavy work required on the core of OOo to make it work. Thus, it is planned, but it won't come any time soon.
Known forks
One of the most notable forks is Novell's, which extensively modified OOo 2.0.4 to include an OOXML word processor filter, a VBA compatibility module and a DataPilot editor. Those were unfortunately shoved in in a less than elegant fashion, and required long refactoring before OOo's QA considered them good enough to include in the main line. Still, it is quite interesting to test, as it is available for both Novell's openSUSE and for Windows.
Right now it is seen more as a testbed than as a real port, though, and most of these improvements have either been published in a release version of OOo, or are planned for the next version.
Planamesa's NeoOffice
Another port, which is MUCH more controversial, is called NeoOffice. Started a few years ago, it aims at running OOo on MacOS X without the need for an X11 compatibility layer. The two developers decided on two things:
- use Java as an interface layer between OOo and Aqua (which is a debatable design decision)
- switch the code from LGPL to GPL, which prevents any backport of NeoOffice code into OOo
The latter decision was voluntary and aimed at preventing Sun from using their code under the SISSL license (at first, OOo was dual licensed; with the OOo 2.0 release, only the LGPL remains—which still allows Sun to redistribute StarOffice as a proprietary product, but which forces direct modification to OOo code LGPL too).
The controversy stems from the fact that not only do Patrick Luby and Edward Peterlin not allow their code to be back-ported to OOo, they seem to defend it rabidly when it can, and are keen to NOT contribute to the native OOo-Aqua port—to the ire of the OOo Mac porting team: don't EVER mention NeoOffice to them, or they'll (politely) bite your head off.
Brazil's BrOffice.org
Originally a branded Portuguese port of OOo specific to Brazil, and government-sponsored.
The original "fork" served as support for a grammar checker, a thesaurus and an automated document generator. All were progressively merged into OOo, making it no different than mainline, apart from the branding.
Various GNU/Linux distributions
Mandriva maintains a rebranded OpenOffice version. It used to include a specific icon set and personalized splash/info graphics. Nowadays, most of the branding is gone. However, Mandriva now maintains a working 64-bit port (using gcj 64-bit for Java support), which is regularly updated, usually based on the most recent release CVS extract with some patches thrown in for good measure, in its "backports" repositories. The equivalent 32-bit version is available for x86-32 (and maybe PPC).
Debian provides various versions (1.1.3, 2.0.4, 2.2.1...) depending on architecture and stability.
For openSUSE, see Novell.
I couldn't find anything specific in other distributions, which leads me to think that they don't refactor OOo or don't provide unsupported ports as much as those.
If you had previously dismissed OpenOffice.org because you found it too slow, too big, too buggy, or because it didn't work on a Mac, then maybe it is time to reevaluate your opinion. It is a very powerful office productivity suite that you can use seamlessly on pretty much any system in pretty much any language.
It being free doesn't hurt either, when compared with the competition...
Most ports and plugins can be monitored through the OOo wiki
The latest NeoOffice contribution to OOo-Aqua: Read the whole thread
Easier to install than koffice
Just wondering - how is it easier to install than koffice? I see no difference at all.
(I use both and happily accept that OOo is more complete than KOffice in terms of features, but just a bit puzzled by that comment)
Installing Koffice
Due to its past as an integrated office (and not a simple office suite) with file picker and all, OOo doesn't have too many packages requirements - making it 'easy' to install on pretty much any system with little external libs required.
On the other hand, Koffice is strongly integrated into KDE. It has heavy requirements, as in it requires all KDE base files and several supplemental packages. Installing Koffice requires pretty much all of KDE to be installed, which is not too difficult (and even quite easy and painless if your distro's dependencies are well maintained) on GNU/Linux, BSD or Solaris, but is a pain on Mac OS X and almost impossible on Windows.
A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open windows.
You should also note that there are KDE bindings for OpenOffice.org. At least for (K)Ubuntu available here
Andrew Min
The biggest Open Source project in existence is Linux itself, in all its flavors.
I'm disappointed with OpenOffice. The quality difference between the Linux version versus
the Windows one is big. In win's favor.
Wrong again...
Linux, as in the kernel (since the complete GNU/Linux isn't a single project with a single community) is roughly... a fourth of the size of OpenOffice.org.
As to the quality difference between the Windows and the Linux version, well, I've compared the two side by side:
they're absolutely identical. In fact the Linux version has an advantage in speed (much faster to load) and in UI (selects the icon set most appropriate for your environment, uses system's default font for UI, autodetects language settings) on top of being able to use any version of Java you have (I'm happily using gcj with it).
A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open windows.
OOo Hype
I've been using OOo for 3 years now. I guess you could say I was one of the eary adopters. I keep a running log on my desktop on OpenOffice.org's bugs and it is lengthy:
* OpenOffice.org's spell-checker is simply terrible. It recommends breaking up words. Just yesterday I spelled comma as coma and it accepted the spelling.
* I worked w/ OpenOffice Base for about 300 hrs and find it terrrible. Simple things can not be done. You can't reorder fields in your database. So if you use a field to the far right often you have to tab over each time you need to make an entry waisting time. It doesn't support drag'n drop. The best thing I can say about it is it interfaces to so many databases.
* In Open Office.org Writer
* I get a pulsing screen when I open large documents almost to the verge of crashing the application. I find you have to keep your documents to 35 pages or less to avoid it. Also some of my 100 page documents take forever to load and I have 500MB of RAM and a Duron 900 CPU
* OpenOffice.org's cut and paste from Firefox to an OpenOffice.org document requires time to warm up on some web pages before it can be used. I finally figured out a workaround: Cut with the mouse and paste with Ctrl+V.
* OpenOffice.org's cut and paste feature (while using the KDE Desktop in Ubuntu (not Kubuntu)) captures a few characters before what I want to cut from a web page and paste a few less characters than I intended when I insert it in an OpenOffic.org doc.
*periodically artifacts show up on the screen after doing a cut operation and do not go away unless you close and reopen the doc.
* Up until the last dot release the application crashed a lot although it generally recovered everything.
* It's possible to open two instances of the same document at once if you click too often.
* The scroll bar in the document jumps up a page or two each time an embedded Google ad is passed in a document.
I could go on but I will save you the time.
Why do I continue to use it?
* It has great large document features especially indexing and table of contents and I am writing a book/technical manual.
* PDF creation is a snap and importing has been fine.
* It's free.
To finish-up the OpenOffice.org team should stop and fix the bugs. Once they do they will have a nice product. I think your article was a little too much marketing.
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OpenOffice.org's spell-checker is simply terrible. It recommends breaking up words. Just yesterday I spelled comma as coma and it accepted the spelling.
It is a "spell checker" not a "semantic checker". Coma is a real word meaning to be in a narcoleptic state. Any spell checker will accept coma as correct.
OpenOffice.org's cut and paste from Firefox to an OpenOffice.org document requires time to warm up on some web pages before it can be used.
It works fine both from the X clipboard and the Freedesktop clipboard in Gnome on Ubuntu for me, maybe you have a KDE problem again.
Break your doc into smaller pieces...
...then put them together using a master document. That's not a work-around, it's smart use of an available feature that you should really use for large docs anyways.
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Thanks for your input. I'm a bit puzzled by your comment though:
- breaking up words: have you installed the thesaurus? Coma is a valid noun too - there are NO semantic checker in MS Office either, so be careful with homonyms. Any spell checker worth its salt will do the same.
- Base is a very young component still. However, I should mention that in NO database qualifying for the name will let you reorder the content of a table! You may reorder the output of a selection, but not the content - SELECT * FROM Table ORDER BY (column to sort); - if you want to sort the contents of the actual file, then it's not Base you need, it's Calc.
- About Writer requiring time to load large documents: I wrote my 450 pages thesis on OOo. Yup, as I said (and as you said) it's slow to load. However it doesn't crash while loading (MS Office choked on the same document, around page 130, and THEN corrupted the file attempting to recover it)
- your cut and paste troubles and artifacts are strange - I have yet to find anything similar on all the versions and systems I've tried it on. On the other hand, I don't use KDE; the fault may lie in KDE's hand.
- OOo 2.2.0 is known for having a few bugs - that version was probably the biggest overhaul of the code base with the largest amount of commits at the last moment ever since 2.0.0. 2.2.1 will solve that really soon (rc2 is out).
- Opening several instances of a document in such a case is normal - don't click too fast. It also is useful when you want to compare a document you're editing to its last known good state without activating modifications monitoring.
- Google ads contain a lot of code - and OOo knows how to interprete HTML properly, so you may want to paste your text without formatting.
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Correct in all regards. Much loved curate's egg containing many hardy perennial bugs and hair-pulling inadequacies that survive upgrade after upgrade. Needs a serious clean-up. If I could code, I'd sort some of them myself.
You don't need to code...
...to help solve bugs. What you can do is vote for them to be fixed, write complete specifications with screen mockups (for requested improvements), write testing procedures to detect bugs, etc.
If all you do is complain, then stay with your M$ Office: after all, they don't listen to you complaining and don't ask you for input.
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Just yesterday I spelled comma as coma and it accepted the spelling.
Oh dear. At least the British dictionary rejects "liase" - unlike MS did for years. You might like to read this..
There's a useful poem on it to try.
* OpenOffice.org's cut and paste from Firefox to an OpenOffice.org document requires time to warm up on some web pages before it can be used. I finally figured out a workaround: Cut with the mouse and paste with Ctrl+V.
Not sure what you mean by "warm up" but I'm pretty sure it won't be OOo's fault. I've noticed a few times that Firefox doesn't always use Klipper as one would expect. It may be this that is causing the issue.
* OpenOffice.org's cut and paste feature (while using the KDE Desktop in Ubuntu (not Kubuntu)) captures a few characters before what I want to cut from a web page and paste a few less characters than I intended when I insert it in an OpenOffic.org doc.
Never encountered this running KDE (3.5) on Debian. You mention cutting from a web-page (by which I take it you mean "copying") which implies the issue is again related to your Firefox/KDE interaction than anything particularly wrong with OOo (or Firefox or KDE for that matter).
That said if you *do* mean *cut* and paste (e.g. Ctrl-X) then that's your problem. Attempting to cut some text from a web-page (not within a form control) will usually result in nothing being passed to the clipboard.
Yes you can open two copies of the same file but the second one will be read-only.
Finally you don't mention if during your 3 years of use you've fed any of this back to the developers. If not it might be an idea - it's how end-users become a bigger part of the community.
You should not spit in the plate you are eating
You can always pay the msoffice licence (Or you can have some vacations!)
For me, and I'm a "young" OO user,
it works more than fine for the price.
Obviously that it could have some extra features. I'm sure they will come with time...
Best regards,
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After upgrade from OO 1.x to 2.x together with standard Stable Debian upgrade from Sarge to Etch, regret, the same documents, containing some graphics open much slowler. They almost hang OOWriter. 20 pages document allow me to make tea and start drinking it before starting work. Life...?
Maybe you've found a bug...
Debian Stable contains an earlier version of OOo. Due to the change in default file format in 2.x, file converters and filters had to be shaken around a lot - and usually, performance was forgotten to ensure compatibility; and, indeed, many files opened slower under earlier versions of OOo 2.0.x in all apps.
Several optimizations were made, leading to some eye-popping gains: Excel files that required 1h10min to open previously suddenly opened in less than 40 seconds.
Now, you may have hit another performance snag: you can download a more recent version of OOo (either Debian unstable/Testing versions, or OOo's .deb package), and test your file again: if it's still as slow, I encourage you STRONGLY to report it (and send a version of the file) to the developers: this way, they may just fix the problem for the next release or the release after.
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Most Major Distributions use Novell's ooo-build version
Lately the press has been bashing Novell left and right (justified, maybe - maybe not), but to somewhat bash their "fork??" like this is just mis-informing the public. With Sun's version of OOo it has been very difficult to get third-party patches in and has been hard for newer developers to get involved. Becasue of this, Novell took the code and incorporated it into ooo-build @ http://go-oo.org/.
Now, most GNU/Linux Distributions use ooo-build to generate the version of OpenOffice.org into their OS (including Debian, Mandriva, Ubuntu, etc.). To say that all of these features have been incorporated in a less than elegant fashion and because of this Sun has not incorporated the changes into the main branch is just plain wrong. To get the real story on Novell's (actually the community's) version check out an interview with Michael Meeks at http://www.tuxdeluxe.org/node/184
You're mixing up things
ooo-build was a project started a few years ago because it was, indeed, hard to include 3rd-party patches into Sun's main CVS. However, this has changed: ooo-build is now a test-ground of sorts for the biggest projects out there, but it has reached its goal: it is now MUCH faster to integrate 3rd-party code into mainline - ask those guys working on the AMD64 and the OS X Aqua build.
Now, I think the ooo-build project was Novell's doing is a bit... exaggerated. Moreover, you can't base yourself only on what MM says: he's not alone. You can ask Pavel Janik, Eric Bachard, Sophie Gautier, and some others for more informations.
A problem with QA is that, indeed, they ask for lots of specs - as it should be. Moreover, the build test tools, smoke tests and automated tests have been long outdated, but they have recently been improved, and most 'new' developers now enjoy the CWS system - which has been improved and better defined - as such, QA is getting a bit more responsive, while developer snapshots just work.
As it stands, Novell is working hand in hand with Sun to integrate their improvements with OOo's mainline in a 'proper' fashion - as in, following the OOo project's architecture, code formatting and QA guidelines. It results in a more gradual but much more robust and future-proof integration of Novell's improvements into OOo - otherwise, why would have Novell not kept including their patches in more recent versions of OOo? We're now almost at 2.3 on mainline, and Novell's version is still 2.0.4. Why? Because several of their improvements have been refined and integrated gradually in OOo's structure - while existing OOo subsystems have been modified and made more modular. In essence, this is what MM is saying.
I'm not bashing Novell's build; on the contrary, it was a very nice and well polished first implementation of VBA and OOXML under OOo, but a project the size of OOo requires strict code submission guidelines otherwise you get... Microsoft Office 2000 (required SP3 to be made usable, and 3 years of extra development on a frozen code base to work).
As for the distros using ooo-build, it was true in 2005 - but since then, since ooo-build has been integrated in the main OOo development group of projects (or to be fair, became the standard structure of any and all new OOo development projects), it's not true anymore. For example, I have the latest ooo version (in 64-bit) provided by Mandriva, and it's tagged 2.2.0cvs20070323. Previous was 2.1.7cvs, and from development notes matched against OOo bug reports, it looked a lot like a 'vanilla' 2.1.0 build with some extra CWS integrated. A glorified development snapshot, if you want.
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At that point it makes perfect sense to start the homeward-bound Julius/Cavern/Antelope sequence. Can't complain.
Disease itself is a pretty standard 2011 version, actually - it's the Trey/Mike segue into Tweezer that sets things off. Fish calls for Golden Age during this chiming major-key Tweezer, and Trey obliges as the jam fades out; a short version of that tune ends with a brief bit of funk riffing that previews the night's 2001. Great stuff.
But then LxL continues unexpectedly to serve as a showcase jam tune, and the band keeps blasting out the KDF jam *after* its closing vocals, and after a standard 2001 we have the aforementioned triumphant 'Down with Light' jam, jam, jam, damn.
That's about 70 minutes of grade-A+ Phish to anchor another 2011-level show, which is to say everything here is very very good or better. And don't miss the huge Wolfman's in the first, nor Ocelot, nor FEFY. This show is similar to 8/16, the second night of last month's UIC run: every jam is full of energy, empathy, detail, inspiration. Maybe I'll look back on my 2011-gushing someday with mild embarrassment, but right now I wouldn't bet on it: the music is just better than it has any right to be, given the late hour...


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Breckenridge's Tommy Gogolen is all in for this weekend's U.S. Telemark National Championships in Steamboat.
As of Monday, he was expecting a game-time decision, worried a knock on his left knee may have caused injury. But physicians at the Steadman Clinic in Vail assured the athlete he would be good to go for Friday's classic races, which then move into a sprint classic on Saturday and the national championships debut of the sprint parallel Sunday.
Turns out, the injury is just a big bone bruise, and Gogolen will take it for what it is, turning his nationals appearance into a training opportunity - though he still says it would be nice to podium.
"The two knees work together," Gogolen said. "If one's not strong ... I just wanted to make sure I wasn't putting myself at any more risk."
Gogolen admitted he's not in the best shape, following a bout with sickness.
"I might not be the fittest right now, but it's a great opportunity to get some more training. World Championships are in a couple of weeks, on the third week of March in Spain. That's the goal, and this will help. I'm fired up, I'm ready for this week. Any time I can get competitive skiing in against teammates, that's good," Gogolen said.
After knee surgery two years in a row, Gogolen has made another return to racing and began his season in January at the World Cup races in Slovenia and Austria. Gogolen claimed a podium spot in previous nationals, but this year, competition will be fierce.
"We have a tough field this year," he said. "It's maybe the toughest I've seen from U.S. competitors."
Jeffrey Gay, a resident of Steamboat and University of Colorado-Boulder student, won two local races at Vail and Sunlight recently and just returned home from the Junior World Championships in Chamonix, France. The 2012 national champion, Charlie Dresen of Steamboat, and the 2011 national champion, Cory Snyder of New Hampshire, will also be contending for the top spot.
Racers from Colorado, Montana, Utah, New England and beyond will be in the ranks of competitors this weekend.
Gogolen's plan?
Go out and ski fast. Expectations aren't high, though landing a podium is on his radar.
Races will be held at Howelsen Hill and Mount Werner at Steamboat Ski Resort. A citizen's and junior race is available to telemark skiers who just want to give racing a try. Visit www.ustsa.org or email email@example.com for more information, including the race schedule, registration and lodging information.
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The top women's podium spot will be contested by Madi McKinstry, a U.S. National Telemark team member and freshman at Montana State University. McKinstry claimed bronze in the Junior World Champion Sprint Classic on Feb. 9 in France.
McKinstry will make her return to the national championships after opting to miss the 2012 series for the Junior World Cup Championships in Espot, Spain. In 2011, McKinstry was crowned the U.S. Women's National Champion in Steamboat Springs.
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Nearly two years after her daughter's disappearance, the mother of Ayla Reynolds is disclosing some evidence in the case.
Trista Reynolds said in an online posting that blood was found throughout the Waterville home where her daughter was last seen in December 2011.
Reynolds said she was announcing the previously unreleased details to put pressure on the person or persons responsible for Ayla's disappearance.
Reynolds said she also wants the public to appear to the Maine Attorney General's Office to file charges.
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Imagine you're 18 years old and a police officer offers you a chunk of weed, asks you to smoke it in front of him and promises not to arrest you for doing so.
It's not a drug-induced fantasy. It's the subject of a lawsuit.
"Occupy" protesters in Minneapolis were used as "guinea pigs" in a government drug research program, their lawyer told a federal magistrate judge this week.
The hearing follows a February lawsuit filed by a half-dozen protesters in their late teens and early 20s who allege that police officers approached them at an Occupy Minneapolis demonstration, gave them large amounts of "powerful marijuana," and then drove them to a government warehouse near an airport for observation.
The plaintiffs, who are suing state and local law enforcement agencies in Minnesota, say they later realized they had been subjects of the state's "Drug Recognition Evaluator Training Program." One of the participants was given at least 10 pipe bowls worth of marijuana, according to the lawsuit, which claims that police violated their privacy and First Amendment rights.
State and local police departments have asked a federal judge in Minnesota to dismiss the lawsuit, arguing that the plaintiffs voluntarily participated in the program.
"Our playing field is they used these kids as things, they used them as guinea pigs," an attorney representing the protesters, Alan Milstein, told U.S. Magistrate Judge Franklin Noel at a hearing Monday, the St. Paul Pioneer Press reported. "They used them as means to an end, and that's wrong."
Jason Hiveley, an attorney representing several police departments, said it wasn't an experiment but a training evaluation. "Each Plaintiff voluntarily used marijuana and voluntarily participated in the evaluations performed by the officers enrolled in the drug recognition program," he told Law Blog by email. "The Plaintiffs knew exactly what they were getting involved in."
Attorneys representing Minnesota law-enforcement agencies said the program had a legitimate purpose of training officers to recognize signs of drug impairment, according to earlier court papers. The state temporarily suspended it last year after it came under a state review, and then relaunched it in June with new protocols. The field evaluations now take place in California, where possession of medical marijuana is legal.
The plaintiffs don't know the names of the officers who allegedly supplied the protesters with drugs, Nathan Hansen, another one of their attorneys, told Law Blog. In the spring of 2012, when the incidents allegedly took place, about two dozen officers were taking part in the training, he said.


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- Jen @ MyKitchenAddiction.com said...
These look fabulous! Perfect for the 4th of July, too - with the beautiful blueberries and white whipped cream!
- July 3, 2009 at 7:13 PM
- Moogie said...
I love individual little desserts. It makes everyone feel special. And these look particularly good. I will be making these in the very near future.
I understand about the nonbloggers sharing your passion. None of my friends are very savvy when it comes to computers. Thank goodness I have Pap, he was a software developer for Michelin Tire. And my daughter and son-in-law, both are computer science majors from Georgia Tech.
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Jen: I know! Now I'm wishing I'd have made half with strawberries and half with blueberries, just for the patriotic appeal.
Moogie: You're surrounded by geeks! I'm so jealous!
- July 3, 2009 at 7:46 PM
- Karine said...
They indeed look so cute! Nice dessert for the summer! :)
- July 3, 2009 at 8:09 PM
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I'm so glad you cut into one (for research purposes only, I'm sure) so I can see the interior--it just looks delish, especially with the whipped cream mixing into it. YUM!
- July 3, 2009 at 9:30 PM
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Karine: Thanks for commenting!
Linda: I did this for you (strictly for research purposes)
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Glad they were enjoyed! Love the photos!
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We all need to learn how to be human beings. Some of us may need more help than others, and that's arguably why this "advanced kissing techniques" video exists—so, while I'm sure it fills a need, just...oh my god. No, just no. Why? The kicker is, it's not the only video like it.
Look at this "Erotic touch techniques" video (it's not really saucy, just AWKWARD/not safe for life.) Both this video and the one before it are from "Date Camp."
Date camp is a thing. A camp. That teaches you how to date. And it has a YouTube channel.
It was from here that I lost control and tumbled deeper and deeper into a black hole of awkward YouTube videos. There's a whole channel devoted to them over at The Cringe Channel. I...can't stop.
And there's a bunch more awkwardness in this YouTube channel. I will never think I'm an awkward person again.
Well, that's a weird sendoff to the weekend, Kotaku readers. Sorry! Just had to share; last time that happened we all slammed. But feel free to talk about awkwardness, weekend plans, or just about anything else in this open thread or in the new, fancier Talk Amongst Yourselves—it's on our new, upcoming layout/Kinja system.
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Want to get your family excited about going ice fishing? Here are some basics to help you prepare for your first ice-angling adventure.
Ice-fishing equipment is specialized but simple. You need a sled for moving equipment onto the ice—a big plastic boat sled can haul your gear or a tired child. A homemade sled works great, too; try a wooden box attached to a pair of old downhill skis.
A "spud" can be used to test the thickness of the ice, to make holes in the ice or to re-open holes made by someone else. An auger is a giant drill for making holes in the ice; get a hand auger for the exercise, or a power auger to make lots of holes in a hurry. Use a "skimmer"—a long-handled slotted spoon—to remove slush and ice from your ice-fishing holes.
The most popular ice-fishing device is the "tip-up." The reel, spooled with several hundred feet of braided line, is submerged in the water; the rest of the device is suspended on the ice by a pair of crossed "arms." A simple triggering mechanism makes a flag pop up when a fish takes the bait, at which point you pull the device from the water and reel the fish in by hand.
Your bait will usually be near the bottom, so you'll want a "sounder" to know how far down the bottom is. A sounder is a heavy metal weight with a clip that attaches to your hook or line. Lower it into the hole, and take the guesswork out of how deep to fish. Mark your line with a button or small sinker, and you won't have to re-sound after catching a fish or changing bait.
For a more active ice-fishing experience, try a jig rod—like a regular spinning outfit with a short (2 to 3-foot) rod. Jig rods are named for the up-and-down "jig" motion the angler gives the bait or lure. They allow you to fish throughout the water
Live shiners are the bait of choice, and are sold in many locations. You will need a bait bucket for them, and a bait dipper, which is a small net to retrieve the little rascals from the cold water. Mealworms and maggots are best baits for sunfish and crappies.
A good pair of insulated boots, heavy wool socks and long johns are musts. A fleece layer is next—or perhaps the traditional wool pants and shirt. Your outer layer needs to be windproof and waterproof; snow pants and a good winter coat will do the trick. Layering will give you and your family better protection and comfort in the cold. Don't forget a warm hat and mittens.
Snacks and drinks are very important for keeping your energy up on the ice. Fill a thermos with beef stew or mac and cheese, and another with hot cocoa.
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A small tackle box carries other items you shouldn't be without – hooks, spare sounders, non-lead sinkers, lures, jigs, a first-aid kit, pliers and trash bags. For safety and comfort, also bring rope (15 feet), extra clothing (leave in vehicle), a compass, fire starter and matches, a folding lawn chair or pack chair, a heavy blanket, and those handy little instant-heat packets. Consider ice crampons or "creepers" for walking on ice.
Ice fishing is the main focus of the trip, but there is some waiting involved; having activities to keep busy and warm will only add to the fun. Frisbee, wildlife tracking, snow-fort building and skating are favorites. Time of day doesn't matter, so plan your trip around the warmest part of the day, and keep it short to start. You don't have to go far from home to have a good time ice fishing. Let's face it—New Hampshire winters can seem a little long. Having an activity to look forward to makes them much more fun. Enjoy your winter on the ice!


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SAN JOSE -- The cry of "Game On!" echoed throughout North America early Sunday morning as the news spread quickly that the bitter NHL lockout finally was over.
But as the San Jose Sharks and the rest of the league prepare to return to the ice, with the first games no later than Jan. 19, the burning question: Will hockey fans come back, too? Can they forgive and forget after a protracted labor dispute that left them feeling likes pawns in a fight between billionaire owners and millionaire players?
"A majority of the fans that I've talked to are looking forward to the season," said Mountain View resident Gail Berg, who is a regular at the Sharks Ice training facility to watch the team practice. "But a few who I know are just disgusted with the way this has played out. But for me there's a feeling of relief that there's finally some resolution."
The phrase "This is Sharks Territory" is more than a marketing slogan in San Jose. The region has become one of the NHL's best nontraditional hockey markets thanks to a perennially strong Team Teal. The Sharks are riding a 110-game sellout streak as 17,562 fans make HP Pavilion one of the league's loudest arenas.
The Sharks also are an economic engine for the downtown core. And that's why, without hockey, local businesses have seen their bottom lines brutally slammed with the force of a Douglas Murray check.
"Not having a Sharks season would have been like not having snow in Tahoe," said Michael Mendez, CEO of The Mmoon restaurant on West Santa Clara Street. "Without the Sharks, there's really no reason to go downtown. So there are no hard feelings in the business community. But it will be interesting to see if there will be a lower attendance at the arena."
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Over at the Britannia Arms downtown location, restaurant manager Christian Macauley already was planning for bigger crowds. On nights when the team plays at the Shark Tank, the pub regularly packs in 300 teal-wearing fans before games.
"We're ecstatic," he said with a beaming smile. "We're going to salvage some of the season."
NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman had threatened to cancel the season this week if owners and players couldn't agree on how to divvy up an estimated $3.3 billion in annual revenues. But the two warring sides struck a tentative deal Sunday on a 10-year contract after a 16-hour bargaining session in New York to end the 113-day lockout.
The deal still must be ratified by both the 750-player union and the league's 30-seat board of governors. Many details also are yet to be resolved -- including the creation of a new 48- or 50-game schedule and when teams will report to truncated training camps. But the Sharks could return to work as early as Wednesday.
"We're happy to be back," said Malcolm Bordelon, executive vice president of business operations for Sharks Sports & Entertainment. "We're very mindful of the impact that this has had on our community. We're really appreciative of the fans who have hung in with us. It's regrettable that we've all had to experience this."
Labor disputes are a sad reality of professional sports -- the start to last year's NBA season was delayed by a lockout -- and angry fans usually return after a labor deal is struck.
But this lockout especially has tested fans' patience because it came just eight years after an entire NHL season was lost. Fans once again felt betrayed and were left wondering if a league that seemingly cannot manage its business affairs really deserves their support.
Even though Bordelon said the Sharks saw less than 100 season-ticket holders cancel their packages, players are keenly aware that there is fence-mending to be done.
"You obviously couldn't blame anybody for feeling that way," team star Patrick Marleau said Friday of fans threatening to give up on hockey. "At this point, who knows what people might do? They feel let down. But I hope they give us another chance."
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Allan Gore said he will. The Fremont resident, who sat at Sharks Ice on Sunday with his wife, Janet, as they watched their son play a game, believes it will be hard for most fans to stay away.
"I think most people want to see it back," said Gore, who wore a Sharks jacket. "So I think fans will come back eventually. I know I'm glad hockey is back."
Scott Knies, executive director of the San Jose Downtown Association, estimates that restaurants and bars nearest the Shark Tank have seen business dive 30 percent without hockey. Particularly hard hit has been the cluster of eateries and drinking establishments around the intersection of Santa Clara and San Pedro streets, a short walk from the Shark Tank.
Macauley, at Britannia Arms, said the restaurant suffered a 60 to 70 percent downturn during the lockout. That also meant "The Brit" did not hire the 15 or so extra part-time workers it normally adds to handle the big crowds on game days.
"I think I saw maybe three or four Sharks jerseys in here since the lockout began," he said.
But now Mendez, of The Mmoon restaurant, said he hopes the Sharks do more than just win back fans. He wants to see the team finally win the elusive Stanley Cup.
"The best thing now would be for the Sharks to go all the way," he said. "Lord knows they've been knocking on the door the last few seasons. It would be nice to finally see them finish it."
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Although on many occassions, I have issues with picking it up. I've been able to get it to work (I don't know what I did differently) but I'll come back to it later and it doesn't show up. And I've closed PMS on my computer, re-opened and the Renderers isn't showing the TV. When it's working it will show the TV in renderers.. but for some reason it doesn't always connect.
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BERKELEY -- Stressing that he is leaving Cal "with no hatred," offensive lineman Freddie Tagaloa said Monday he won an appeal to transfer within the Pac-12 Conference to Arizona.
Tagaloa will enroll in spring semester classes and be eligible to play for the Wildcats as a redshirt junior in the fall of 2015 after sitting out next season.
He said the opportunity to be reunited with offensive line coach Jim Michalczik, now at Arizona, was key to his decision to pick the Wildcats.
"Having a coach I looked up to as a father figure was one of the main deciding factors," said Tagaloa, a 6-foot-8, 330-pound graduate of Salesian High in Richmond. "I talked to (former Cal offensive linemen) Alex Mack and Mitchell Schwartz, and they call him an O-line guru."
Tagaloa said he considered transferring after Michalczik was let go when Sonny Dykes replaced Jeff Tedford as Cal coach in December 2012 but wanted to give the new staff a chance.
Tagaloa was voted one of Cal's four captains by his teammates last fall but lost his starting offensive tackle job at midseason, then was moved to guard.
"I wanted to do anything to win at that point," he said. "If I lost my starting job and moved to guard and we started winning games, obviously we fixed the problem. That didn't happen, so I became a little frustrated."
Tagaloa sat down with his family to make the decision after the Bears' 1-11 season was complete. He said he wasn't comfortable with the way offensive line techniques were taught by the new staff and wasn't convinced he would develop into an NFL-caliber player.
At Arizona, Tagaloa said, he will return to offensive tackle.
Cal and Arizona play each other next season, but Tagaloa won't be eligible to participate. He said he's grateful the two teams won't meet in 2015 and '16 when he is playing.
A Cal athletic department spokesman said the school will not grant release from scholarship to any player trying to transfer to another Pac-12 school, which is standard practice for most college football teams.
Tagaloa said that required him to go through a campus appeals process, which was conducted via email because of the holiday season. He said he presented his reasons for why he should be permitted to transfer to Arizona and was informed on Dec. 29 he won the appeal.
One of at least three Cal players known to be transferring, Tagaloa said he is excited about the next chapter of his football career.
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Hi everyone, I started on the vasectomy reversal thread, then came back to the IVF thread and now I thought I would drop in and give you all an update!!
We had a failed IVF attempt last year after my DH was diagnosed with azoospermia - all this after obliviously trying for 2 years! The DR said the quality of the tiny amount of sperm he sometimes had was so poor that she didn't think IVF would work for us without DH having a biopsy. This year we decided to change IVF Drs, the new DR gave my DH some blood tests and said his hormones levels were all low and prescribed him 4 shots of HCG over 4 weeks.
So my husband has been on these hcg shots to try and get a sperm count for the ivf that was due to start 23rd June. I had a cyst aspiration 2 month ago, af shortly after and then ovulated two weeks ago. We still tried naturally as we have for the last two years even tho we knew my dh didn't have sperm because like everyone says it only takes one. Well on sunday I had the shock of my life!! I missed my period and had a positive pregnancy test whoop whoop!! I couldn't believe it!! I still can't!!
I woke sunday morning wondering why af hadn't arrived and was fed up that Ivf would be delayed again. In the meantime my dh was at the clinic getting a sperm test done as we were due to start Ivf that day or the next. 22nd June was the day my af should have started in the morning. I didn't test till 23rd because I thought my dh has had a sperm count of nil and then one of 3000 non swimming, I can't be pregnant. I eventually caved did the test, screamed out in shock, called the dr and had a blood test which confirmed it and later my dh called with his results - he's only got 42 million sperm!!!!!! So now I know how it happened lol!!! I think this dr Fakih Ivf in Dubai is a special good luck charm for us as we had a consultation with him in 2009 not knowing I was already pregnant and now just as we were due to start with him this time round we've had to cancel again lol!!! So I can't believe our luck and just wanted to let you all know that even with low sperm counts its still possible to get pg as I have proved twice!!
Oh and by the way I'm due march 1st
Good luck to everyone, we need some more March mummies x x


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Total Fat 4g / 6%
Saturated Fat 2g / 11%
Trans Fat 0g
Total Cholesterol 0mg
Total Carbohydrate 9g / 3%
Dietary Fiber 5g / 13%
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How common has zone defense been in your soccer experience? Seems like all you hear on the field is finding and covering your mark rather than an area of the field. Curious as to how much is has come into play for you.
In youth soccer it was always man defense (in the back 4), but as I got older it became more zone. I think the general idea, on the coaches end at least, was that as you get better you can handle zone d and stay with runnerst that move around. My personal opinion is that professionals can handle zone, but even for them, in certain cases (ie, when they play againts extremely dangerous players) man marking is necessary and smarter to employ. I don't necessarily think that an entire back four (or three) should man mark, but when playing against a game changing midfileder or striker it's best to put your top defender on them and attempt to mark them out of the game. I've seen too many games where someone like Kaka is given too much space because of zone defense and they just tear the defense up. If a team has a defender that is good enough, they should be able to prevent this from happening.
Yeah, I think employing a zone defense might just give too much space for damage to be done. Especially when considering how far, quickly and accurately one can move the ball around the field as skill level increases. It seems like it would be so easy to continually play into the open space around the defenders in their zone.
In my experience, marking man to man gets the job done better (given that when the play is not near, your capacity to float increases)
I think it depends on who you are playing and what type of soccer you are playing (arena/indoor vs. outdoor). In indoor - zone is gonna get you scored on. It's the number 1 mistake I see when we bring new people on the team . Outdoor I think you need to know your skills - can you outrun the offense? do they have better foot work? are there any injuries on your defense? how well is your goalie doing that day? I spend most of my time on indoor fields lately (easier to field a team consistently week in and week out throughout the year) and we will switch to zone when we are down players (min players is 4, max players on the field is 6). So if it's a tough week and we only have 4 players show up to a game - time to circle the wagons and keep the other team out. Longer sends to the other end of the field and keep it out to the wings.
I can't find one reason why anyone would attempt to play man defense. It is true the #1 reason zone defending concedes a goal is a lack of ball pressure. But any good zone that remains compact and organized will get good ball pressure. Remeber there are still man to man principles in zonal defending. Good 1 v1 defending is critical just like in man. The differnce is the ball and dangerous space dictates your defensive shape, not attackers. It way more efficient, but everyone must undersatnd their responsibility and good communication is a must
I'm a fan of man to man defense, but your defenders obviously have to be aware of the other defenders and threatening play makers on the opposing team. If you have a team that plays TEAM defense you'll be set and will not need zone defense, but if you have a team that is concered about themselves and their mark not scoring well then you have a problem on your hands.
I am not against zone but I think it should be used when the time is right against certain teams but not all. It's always good to have options on defense so if a team can handle adding zone to their game then more power to them.
im also a fan of man to man defense,but your team needs to help you. and thats pretty much how it goes over here. we dont just mark our "man" ,we help others if they need it.
I agree. It's a very cool thing when a team knows each other well enough to anticipate other players actions, shift to support when necessary, and cover if a teammate makes a run.
I have played on teams that use both. If your Defense knows how to play defense correctly "Zone" is the way to go. But everyone has to be able to hold their own and know what to do. If you have weak defenders sometimes a "Zone" will make you very volunerable.
Im more of a zone defense minded player, usually i only do a man on man when i mark a fast paced foward, but then again when you do that you need good defensive partners. Just my preference i guess, but as we know situation changes and it differs from team to team.
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