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I heard that the open source software movement grew up when it was noticed that people reacted badly to the idealism that the phrase "free software" suggests. In an attempt to attract more people to free software they decided to move away from the ideas implicit in the term "free software" and use their own term "open source" which promotes the practical benefits of this style of development.
There's definitely been benefits to this approach: the open source camp has attracted many new users to come and try free software such as GNU/Linux, OpenOffice, Firefox etc. The problem is that many of these new users never realise that it was someone refusing to give RMS a copy of a printer's source code—failing to share as was the norm in the programming world at the time—that started this whole community; with Microsoft's new DRM riddled operating system just around the corner and various media groups attempting to restrict our rights to use, enjoy and share content a belief that this sort of attitude is basically a good thing is more important than ever.
Free software is the other extreme: while providing us with the legal and moral basis to help us keep developing, enjoying and sharing brilliant software applications, I believe it's also quite likely that it has put off its fair share of users. Free software, just like open source software, has weakened our ability to share our outlook with others—both now and in the future—by reducing the number of people who are going to really listen to us!
Idealism is for dreamers, what we have is reality!
Perhaps we need a middle ground. In a speech (or essay, I'm afraid I can't remember which!) by Eben Moglen, which I read this week, it was suggested that idealism is no longer necessary: free software, and the culture that has developed around it, already exists; Idealism is for dreamers, what we have is reality! This fact allows people from across the whole spectrum of the community to stand up and say: "We did this...and that... and that... and that...". And when people ask how we managed to do this we can point them in the direction of (and tell them about!) the GPL, all those other free software licenses, and the freedoms that they guarantee.
A new (well relative to 1998 or 1985) term seems to be emerging around the net: "FLOSS"—Free Libre Open Source Software. I like it, I think it gives us a chance to firmly plant our feet in reality—to point to all that we have achieved—whilst still celebrating the principles that founded the community; it's just a shame it's not recursive. Is it too bold of me to suggest we use this new acronym? Probably!
NB: I'm not sure how good a job I've done of expressing myself today. I've read a lot this week and it's taking some time for it all to sink in and organise itself into a coherent set of thoughts! Also, I should point out that the challenge now, is to ensure that what is reality now is still a reality in 10 years.
but 'open source' was the middle ground
You argue that open source undermines the Freedom concept that is so central to the Free Software movement, but Free Software has somehow 'put off' users, and we need a new moderate term. Funny, that's pretty much where the term 'open source' came from in the first place, as an attempt to provide a new, more moderate reframing of 'Free' software. But whatever the next term is (FLOSS etc.) it can't emphasize Freedom more than the original term Free Software.
Maybe what we really need is to address the issue head on. Not in a foaming at the mouth, raving zealot kind of way, but rather in a nuanced, balanced and sober presentation. Much like Eben Moglen does in his speeches. He doesn't shy away from the concept of Freedom, and yet he still manages to make persuasive arguments without alienating listeners.
There is nothing wrong with the phrase 'Free Software'. We need to educate ourselves about the concepts and their history, and then have the courage to present them to others in a respectful manner. If you really believe that Free Software is a worthwhile alternative, then you won't need to resort to name-calling and raving. And if you can keep your arguments civil and well-informed, eventually people will come around. But searching for a catchier phrase is taking the easy way out.
If the concept is good, it will sell itself when people have the information to make an informed decision. Given all the solid arguments in favour of Free Software, if someone needs a trendy new catch-phrase to take it seriously then I question whether they're the sort of people we should put a high priority on persuading. Better to slowly build a strong base than to quickly build a weak one.
"Free" or "Libre" ... You are free to choose but...
As a long standing proponent of Free/Libre Open Source Software (FLOSS - http://pa-2-gnu.blogspot.com ) I feel comfortable with overall concept, from a philosophical standpoint.
What needs to be emphasized is that software should be valued! Free, in the minds of consumers, suggests that they are not responsible for 'valuing' the software that they use. We need to acknowledge the value of a given software author(s) contribution AND remunerate them in the manner that THEY choose appropriate.
Some only ask for a postcard telling them how you use their program. Others offer support programs that provide additional value at a price they deem appropriate. In either case, as end-users, we should accept the responsibility of the value of the software and respond accordingly.
William "Papa" Meloney
Some only ask for a postcard
Some only ask for a postcard telling them how you use their program. Others offer support [...]
Yet others just require us to sign restrictive EULAs. Great, if that's what THEY choose appropriate, then I can't remember what the problems with Flash, RealPlayer, and nVidia's graphics driver were...
I don't think that's the meaning that you intended, but your argument could be read in this way (and I remember having read arguments along the lines of "whatever they request, the authors are always right" before; not from you). I think the canonical Free Software opinion would be that no author has the right to restrict users' freedom, even if the author has the "right" (= copyright) to do so. (Or at least, that'd be MY opinion.)
@Johnathan: Do you have a link to Eben Moglen's speech that says "idealism is no longer necessary"? I'd really like to read that for myself.
I like the idea of uniting the two terms 'free software' and 'open source software', but the outcome (be it FLOSS or FOSS) just doesn't sound that catchy.
It would be nice to have one word, accepted by everyone, to describe this kind of software. It would be easier to find it (ie. by googling) an newcomers would get less confused. But complicated as the world is, there isn't such a word which would express all that we value about Free/Open Source Software. Maybe we should create a whole new word, but the chances for broad adaption are quite small... :-)
I hope one day, when we're talking about software, we just mean FOSS only, because free software has become ubiquitous, and proprietary software is an old myth of a strange transition-time where old (industrial) business models were used on a then-new phenomenon called software.
I don't use GNU/Linux
I only use Linux. Why do we pander to the braying of barnyard glory-hounds insisting on pointless name changes for the sake of their egos? Haven't you hurd the stupid things some of the arrogant but inept people will do? The impact of the article - indeed my ability to follow it - was significantly impacted by the offensive capitulation of the writer.
Don't you really...
> I don't use GNU/Linux
Somehow I find it very hard to believe simply because using Linux only as opposed GNU/Linux will mean that you only run pure linux kernel with nothing on top of it.
Linux is not an OS
GNU is the operating system. Linux is the kernel that runs below the GNU operating system. Calling the combined GNU/Linux operating system as "Linux" would be incorrect as Linux is an operating system kernel and not an operating system. Linux is an important part of a free operating system and therefore should be mentioned. Linux is not part of the GNU project and therefore shouldn't be called GNU Linux. GNU is mentioned before Linux because the GNU project was started before Linus started work on Linux.
Offensive capitulation...
My "offensive capitulation" is one that has grown out of carefully reading the arguments of the "glory hounds" as you call them and deciding that they have a good point to make, beyond just their egos. Maybe if you would take the time to read what they've said? A few good places to start include the philosophy section of the GNU website or perhaps RMS's book Free software, Free society. If you still disagree then I'm happy to agree to disagree :D
Also, for the person who requested the Eben Moglen speech; I think it can be found here though I cannot be certain! If not then other things by Eben Moglen can be found here and here. I don't think that was a direct quote but I'm sure it was the jist!
Check out my podcast at http://questionsplease.org; my Free Software Magazine blog at http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/blog/31677 or my personal blog at http://jonrobsblog.blogspot.com
"The problem is that many of
"The problem is that many of these new users never realise that it was someone refusing to give RMS a copy of a printer's source code—failing to share as was the norm in the programming world at the time—that started this whole community;"
I'm not sure I understand this assertion. Open source predates RMS by at least a decade, as the IBM and UNIVAC user commnuties were sharing software long before RMS ran into his issues with closed printer drivers. Or were you addressing the Free Software community specifically?
Is that true?
I think that depends on what you mean by the term 'open source'. The most common definition used is the one from the Open Source Initiative, starting in 1998, as an offshoot of the free software movement. I don't know if the term was used before that. I think before Richard Stallman ran into his troubles with nonfree software, and especially a decade before that, software was generally free and open source, as it was distributed in source form, and programmers weren't restricted from copying or modifying it. Therefore, I wouldn't expect anyone would have used any particular terms for free and open source software, because that was generally all software. From what I can tell, Richard Stallman only started the GNU project and the free software movement specifically because he started encountering proprietary software, and it started becoming more common than free software. Then again, I could be wrong.
GNU - free as in freedom
"free software" is important
This is true. The concept of free software predates the term as defined by RMS. This is because everyone shared software and everyone was allowed to tinker with their software. The name "free software" didn't exist because free software was all that existed.
The problem is, people took free software for granted and as a result, people lost their freedom. Stallman found his loss of freedom so distasteful that he decided to start the GNU project which was dedicated to providing people with a free operating system. Stallman defined the term "Free Software" because there was a need for a term that embodied the ideals of free software.
I use the term "Free Software" because the term "Open Source" does not place any emphasis on the ideals of free software. This is important because we will lose our freedom if we don't value it. Stallman lost his once and I don't want it to lose it in the future. Open Source doesn't emphasise freedom. People are less likely to understand the value of the freedom of Free Software and therefore be more likely to lose it under that term.
I think that the Open Source
I think that the Open Source Software ( OSS ) term used is the correct term to describe the "middle ground". FLOSS sounds overly hyped up in my opinion. 'Free' and 'Libre' mean the same thing after all and it would seem to sound more like the FSF itself. I think that the OSS movement is doing an absolutely fine job.
They are two entirely different things
Whilst I appreciate that we like to use collective nouns, and have personally used FOSS and FLOSS in the past, I think we need to remember (and remind others) that Free software and Open source software are two different concepts and use the appropriate term where applicable.
Open source software should refer to any software whose licence gives you permission to access the source code - with varying degrees of latitude on what you can do with it.
Free software specifically refers to software whose licence gives the user the four freedoms. It is a term that should be used in this context only.
By nature Free software is a subset of Open source. All oaks are trees and I have never heard anyone looking for a collective noun for oaks and trees. When we refer to oaks we say - er - oaks and similarly when we say trees we refer to all trees collectively.
So which term you use depends on how specific you are being.
I agree
I agree. Each term represents different ideas. Free software can be defined as a social movement, whereas open source software can be defined as a method of development. I think combined terms should generally just be used to talk about the software collectively without promoting either of the two sets of ideas. People who only support one of the two generally just want to use one of the terms most of the time. 'Open source' also isn't as good a term if you care about the freedom people have to use their software, rather than just producing good quality software. That's because the actual name only tells you that the source code can be looked at, and not what freedom people have to modify and redistribute it. Access to the source code is only a precondition for two of the four key freedoms in the definition of free software.
GNU - free as in freedom
Not just software
I think any new descriptor has to embrace more than just software.
It has to describe a work that upon publication nullifies all rights suspending mechanisms such as copyright, DMCA, and patents.
How about a PARR work? PARR software?
PARR=(published) Public, All Rights Restored (to all members of the public)
PARR=(unpublished) Private, All Rights Restored (to the private individual(s))
I wonder why some people are afraid of the word 'free'. The only problem is the double meaning of the word in English (free as in free beer vs. Free as in Freedom), which can confuse newcomers. In Portuguese, Spanish, French and other languages the confusion doesn't even exist and English-speaking people can be easily educated on the meaning of the term.
There is free, open source and non-free software running on the linux kernel, depending on distribution choices. It is important to make the distinction and never use linux as a synonym of free software.
'Free' is a subconscious mental block
The problem with 'free' is not that anyone is afraid of it, but that it turns people who don't understand it away - it makes the grok barrier higher - easier to laugh and dismiss FS than to grok 'free'.
People who don't understand the concept tend to assume that FS is a labour of love for the good of 'the community', and only commercially viable if you form a well funded company to provide anciallary services (or have an esoteric business model).
People get the idea that FS is about working for nothing (apart from a begging bowl).
This is why folk initially prefer the more commercial sounding 'open source' - it sounds like it means to do business, rather than work for free.
It doesn't matter even if you explain what 'free' means. Subconsciously, 'FREE' screams out 'No money involved - you will not earn a living here - at least, not in the short term'. And this is reinforced by the fact that copies of free software can be made for free - legally!
It would be better if instead of explaining software in terms of the publishing author giving privileges away (free surrender of commercially advantageous restrictions), it was explained in terms of the author/purchaser not having their rights taken away (all rights restored - truth+privacy+liberty), e.g. "This software is not free of charge. However, as a bonafide purchaser, your full rights to inspect, use, copy, modify, and publish the software have been restored to you (on condition you do not suspend them from anyone else)."
I look upon "FOSS" or "FLOSS" as terms that "bridge the gap" between software that is "free" as defined by the "four freedoms" contained in the GPL and software that doesn't necessarily meet the GPL definition of freedom...but does meet the "Open Source Definition".
Mozilla Firefox for instance isn't "free" as defined by the GPL but is indeed "open source" as defined by the open source definition.
Ideally I would like software to be "free" but failing that, I will make use of "open source" software...because it's the next best thing.
The free software movement sees itself fundamentally as a political movement dedicated to software freedom. The open source movement promotes the technical and economic merits of using FOSS/FLOSS software.
I used to think that folks like Richard Stallman were a bit "over the top" in their views. But with the Novell/Microsoft "deal" and Windows Vista being DRM'ed up the wazoo, I am more and more coming to the conclusion that Richard Stallman is right. Software freedom is important and well worth defending.
We are moving into becoming a society where more and more of our interactions with others are digitized. If we as citizens of the world don't have some degree of control over the tools we use to interact with one another and have no easy way to find out what the software tools are doing then that will not create a good society.


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Please don't snort your coffee all over the room like that. It's not very dignified.
No, really -- the pop star and "X Factor" judge is in talks for a book deal with HarperCollins imprint It Books, a source confirmed to E! News.
No, it's not a memoir. It's a novel, you guys. Like, with made-up characters and stuff.
Well, technically. Spears will follow the lead of such noted literary giants as Lauren Conrad and Nicole "Snooki" Polizzi and write something technically fictional that's based on her own experiences.
Spears' rep confirmed to the Hollywood Reporter that the book negotiations are happening. No word on what part of Spears' life the book would cover, though we real fans undoubtedly hope boy bands, head-shaving, and early morning Las Vegas weddings are involved.
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Longtime Ignacio resident Matilde Herrera died Saturday, July 7, 2012, at her granddaughter Toni Herrera�s home in Aztec. She was 95.
Mrs. Herrera was born to Fernando and Filia Gallegos on Sept. 21, 1916, in Lumberton, N.M.
On Sept. 5, 1937, she married Andres A. Herrera at Sacred Heart Catholic Church in Durango. The couple celebrated their 50th anniversary in 1987, at St. Ignatius Catholic Church in Ignacio.
�She loved spending time with her family and with the many children that she took care of,� her family said. �A fifth-generation grandmother, she was known to everyone as �Grandma Herrera.�
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Mrs. Herrera was preceded in death by her husband of 53 years, Andres A. Herrera; and son Andres V. Herrera.
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Supporters are calling it a meaningful and necessary commitment to sustainability. Opponents condemn it as government overreach.
But on both sides of the issue, a proposal to ban or impose fees on single-use bags in Breckenridge is eliciting strong opinions from members of the community.
More than 30 people, both for and against the bag ban, turned out for a public open house at the Breckenridge Recreation Center Monday night for a heated discussion that raised issues from visitors' response to marketing opportunities for the town in the form of reusable bags.
"I think it's a wonderful idea," said Barbara Gibbs. "It's time we did it."
But others said the local government would be over-stepping its bounds with the measure, while inconveniencing locals and putting off visitors.
"It's a hard thing for me to swallow," said Breckenridge business owner Thos McDonald. "I just don't feel like right now in this town, in this community this is something we need to be focusing on."
The offer on the table is a plan that would strategically reduce bag use in Breckenridge over time, starting with a full ban of plastic bags at high-volume grocery stores - notably City Market - and a fee on paper bags.
"The revenues from that fee would go back, partly to the grocer for the administration of that program," Breckenridge assistant director of community development Mark Truckey said. "But also into an educational marketing and bag-reduction benchmarks for smaller retailers."
The plan calls for bag-reduction benchmarks for smaller retailers and a communitywide education and marketing campaign as well.
Large grocers and liquor stores generate approximately 60 percent of the more than 3 million bags used in Breckenridge each year, according to rough estimates in a memo from town staffers. City Market did not provide the town data on bag usage.
But some residents at Monday's open house railed against the idea of "picking on" Breckenridge's only large-scale grocer. Others called the proposed fee a "sin tax."
Many were concerned with the possible impacts to Breckenridge's tourism-based economy, with many visitors from places where recycling and conservationism are not the norm.
"Being a tourist-based community, people are coming into town and they're not prepared with (reusable) grocery bags," McDonald said. "It's not my job to educate these people. We do our best, and it's up to the individual if they want to come in with their grocery bags and use those."
Among the proponents who spoke in favor of a bag ban was 7-year-old Russell Laszlo, an Upper Blue Elementary first-grader and leader of the school's green team, Kids in Action, who stood on his chair at Monday's open house to advocate for the bag ban before the room full of grown ups.
"When people buy them, they really only use them one time," Russell said of plastic bags. "And then they blow into the leaves in nature and into the sea, and it kills animals."
Neighboring communities, including Aspen and Carbondale, states such as Hawaii and whole countries in Europe have already implemented bag-reduction policies. Breckenridge staffers said their research indicated visitors' reactions to bag bans in other municipalities has been largely positive.
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How can afford the players we need?
In view of the worrying debt increase, how are we going to get the four or five top-class talents we need in the summer? I reckon that we are going to need to spend at least 50 million, and with player sales bringing in no more than 25 mil, the owners are going to have to dig deep again, or load more debt onto the club, an unacceptable situation for me.
But here's the dilemma. If we don't get into the CL next season, then it is mid-table obscurity for all time for me, we will be so far behind the others financially. I mean, City and Chelsea speak for themselves, Man Utd are growing in strength, Spurs look like they are going to compete for a long time, and Arsenal have paid off the Emirates and will be totally flush. Us on the other hand are borassic! Never mind the financial situation, our best players will want to b*gger off! This really is the most crucial couple of years in the club's history from a playing point of view.Sort: Newest | Oldest | Most Replied Expand all replies
LFC_Armchair_Supporter LFC_Armchair_Supporter Mar 29, 2013 16:40 Flag
Suarez says he wants CL football.. I presume he means this coming season? In which case that means we'll not be in it.. as we've blown it. Who can blame Saurez if he does leave? Not I.. he's played his guts out for us and we've not backed him up with the right players..
They dont always have to cost mesmerising amounts! We could add an experienced forward but I really like SAS, I don't think we have to upgrade particularly in that area unless a bargain of sorts arises. The noises seem to be that Sakho and Williams will be the centre halves whilst Cissokho could be the left back, to be honest, that is probably £22m worth of defenders but Coates should return us £5m also. It looks like we will get another right sided player with that ranging anything from Ince, to Turan to Alexis Sanchez! Carroll will surely be leaving for somewhere at a huge loss but still money coming in, likewise Pacheco and Spearing will grab us around £5m combined. Surely Assaidi will make way too, I think his value will be at least what we paid, he could tear it up for someone.
The net debt is not a big issue when you consider half of it is interest free to FSG, the reduced wage bill will probably rectify it alone over the next 4 years.
Your team had the big backer in the 70's and 80's your time on the football merry go round has finished and it won't come back man u is dwindling and man city and Chelsea are rising but that will change
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I've been doing some reading on this in various mediums, internet, magazine, articles etc., so I hope to provide some things that may not be available on the other side of the swimming pool, and I'd like to comment on some of the things said and referenced above, but thought I'd share these excerpts for now.. Unfortunately, I don't like saying it, but I also have no problem with saying it, alot of this occured in the last 2 seasons, and particulary in an 18 month period with a very prominent LFC club icon in the middle.
(If they'd known better, and more about the players they were investing in, this would have been minimized)
'Liverpool's owners have incurred "painful'' financial results stemming from their investment in players who have failed to re-establish the club as a European power.
The debt of the team, owned by the parent company of the Boston Red Sox, rose by one-third to 87.2 million pounds (about $131 million), according to figures released Monday. The club lost 40.5 million pounds (about $61 million) during the 2011-12 season.
The results show winning last year's League Cup, which ended a six-year title drought, had minimal financial impact.
Heavy spending before the 2011-12 season - including more than $50 million on Stewart Downing and Jordan Henderson, didn't result in an upturn on the field.'
I did find some very good, positive and pleasant reading as well, so while it's concerning, we all know why alot of it happened (bad buys at horrendous fees, and horrible wage packages), as does Ayre, Rodgers and the Owners:
"Revenue increased by 5 million pounds (about $7 million) from the 184 million pounds (about $275 million) reported for 2010-11. Man United's revenue by comparison in 2011-12 reached 320 million pounds (about $480 million)." So we can see that we're behind the league leaders, and world's largest/2nd largest club, but that gap in commercial money, and marketing deals, has continued to grow under FSG, and there's strong suggestion of another 1-2 big ones this summer. (Deals that is)
"Ayre accepts the club must "improve revenues and manage our cost base effectively.''
"I take comfort in the fact that the work we have done, some of which costs us a lot of money in this period and beyond, looks pretty painful at the time,'' managing director Ian Ayre said. "But as long as you invest in it and manage it in the right way, then hopefully it bears fruit as we go forward.''
Rodgers : (I'm sure you may have read this already, but everyone quotes/words differently)
"In terms of me building the squad, I've already got the assurances that it won't affect anything," he told reporters.
"They've made every promise and every commitment to me that every single penny that they have will go in to regenerate the squad and make it better.
"We won't be able to do it like some clubs and throw out masses each year. But we're looking to make sure we can grow the club and bring in quality players - and that won't stop."
"If you look at where the club was at four years ago, and where it is now, it's in a different place," he continued.
"Of course, there's still debts there and there have been announcements made on that. I think next year's results will show further improvement on that.
"You have to give massive credit to the board here. FSG took on an astronomical amount of debt, over £400 million. Where it's at now, given the short time they've been here, is a huge credit to them, and they're still supporting the investment in the team."
It's a really good question and it's one I cant answer. Ian Ayre could. For me the debt isn't a massive massive concern. Our costs are. To me they look crazy high, right up there with the amount of money we've actually got coming in. The debt on the other hand is manageable and our debt over the period is actually coming down. That's good as it signals that the club is starting to manage its costs.
Back to the costs. My concern is there and I can understand why the club is trying hard to get wages under control. It also enrages me as yet again it shows the state of affairs we were in under the American con men. I would seriously lke to know who was negotiating contracts that time. I also understand that our payments to agents is very high. That obviously needs to stop.
Another concern is that our revenue was propped up by the League and FA cup runs. No such luxury this year.
Quite honestly I don't know. There's more PL money next year. Sponsors, lower wage bill etc. but honestly I cant see how that will add up to a big signing or two.
As far as the stadium goes my understanding is that it is happening quietly behind the scenes. There's a mountain of discussion going on with Liverpool City Council, residents and the like.
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LFC_Armchair_Supporter LFC_Armchair_Supporter Mar 11, 2013 04:30 Flag
Lets put this into perspective.. our debt is nowhere that of Man U and other clubs..
Loki Im a supporter of our club now for 57 yrs...times change. What Im not and have repeatedly posted the fact is an accountant.However Im sure our club employs in some capacity one or two accountants who know their way around the block and back. The PPF will not, again as Ive repeatedly posted , be the be all and end all of regulation of Premier League clubs. It is a racing certainty that there will be plenty of loopholes u can drive a couple double decker buses through. I mean how many rich people do u ever encounter exclaiming "OH woe is me income tax is killing me !" NOT many thats for sure eh ? Why not ? Cos they all have great accountants who find tons of loopholes and shelters for them to stash their cash around FSG are no different and anyone thinks they are is just plain naieve. An interest free loan well...maybe it counts towards profit something the club has made I dont know but...Im sure FSG's accountancy firm does. In the meantime I will say Ive been posting up that we need a super stadium where the long term is concerned ...why do u think we havent got one ? Because the owners weve had have all said the same thing lets think about it and the thinking about it went on for yrs and yrs and yrs and...u get the picture ?
Also Ive been posting up buy proven world class quality ....Why ? Because liike u I saw how crucial the next two upcoming seasons were going to be for the club and bargain basement buys and 10 mill squid numpties like Borini are not going to get things done we need to get ourselves in the game next season and we need the players to do it with and if it means debt .....


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Monday: We're back online! Thanks to Aaron at EA for resolving the issue. I've reset all of the game timers.
thanks Ryan!
Aww, now I actually have to do some work at work :(
Thanks for keeping the site going for us :)
I've been sad all day.
Is there an ETA? I miss my Weewar when it's gone… :-(
war has no downtime! i'm about ready to march on over to gjaddis's house as a trooper and capture his base.
Ooh noes, already more than 12 hours… I'm starting to shake… out of curiousity, does down time like this stop the clock on all games so people don't end up over time on their turns?
cheers, EG
I don't think it does stop the clock.. it's boot-city once things resume!
Glad to know you're on the case Spade. I dread the day where the gears just grind to a halt altogether. That'll be a sad day.
….Never fear the Duck is here !
good luck to weewar team for the troubleshooting !
The "team" you're referring to is actually just one guy, spadequack aka Ryan. May the force be with him.
go Ryan go !
I can't wait to take my turns in all 14 games when it does come back on…should take me half a day at least hehe, come back soon Weewar, wee miss you.
i worry…while we wait…that InspectorHound is plotting against my people and conspiring towards our downfall and things of that nature
InspectorHound came by my desk yesterday afternoon muttering a bunch of gibberish about "the downfall" and "gjaddis." I didn't think much of it at the time, but now it all makes sense…. horrible horrible sense.
i'm gonna join IHs side on this one. Viva la revolución
The only good thing about Weewar being down is that it gives me some great comments like this to chuckle over.
If the inevitable *does* happen, where are we all going to meet to figure out our next game? Should we all sign up on darkbee's forum and make a thread or something?
I guess Daithi is pushing for the community to come together and create an open source Weewar clone:
It's early days yet though. I was planning on setting up a new Weewar community site but I ran into some technical difficulties with my host (that they've proven to be very ineffectual at resolving) and now Daithi has created the above site, it might seem a little redundant.
Now Bee…we've had this chat before…many year ago…
so pull it together man ! The masses await …!
Is this the beginning of the end? Or the end of the beginning? The last rays of sunlight, flickering through the trees? Will cold, fell winter roar its harsh, frosty breath upon us all, snuffing out life, light, hope and weewar?
Yep, weewar sold to EA Games 2D will not longer be maintained :/
yeah, an indication of how long this outage is likely to last would be very welcome. i need to plan my weekend accordingly…
High time to create an alternative! Come on all over here and help making an open-source war game inspired by weewar:
I joined, thanks for the head's up. The gears seem to be grinding to a halt. I am pretty sad about it but, considering some of the recent forum talk, it is not a surprise.
Where oh where has my weewar gone?!?!?!
Egad, man, I want my money back from my free trial….
Starting to gnaw on my knuckles…
I think it's past the oiling the gears point by now and into the realm of stripped cogs?
I am really hoping Ryan / SpadeQuack can pull the spanner out of the Weewar works… as I'm sure we all are.
Like Thuldai said, "May the force be with him!"
Wow, this is going on longer than I expected. Guess it was more complicated than originally thought. Any updates?
Clap…clap…clap clap clap
interesting the map thumbnail pics reappeared now as I´ve checked weeseltown. it seems that at least the map data server is running again.
okay maps are unavailabe again. :-()
You jinxed it! Stop that!
Does anybody know any 'weewar' like games out there, not that I'm willing to cheat but you know, just in case this outage turns into outrage
You can check warnet.ee
This is bad. I dreamt last night that weewar was back up, but it's not. I'm halucinating! Yikes! I'm going crazy!
Or is Weewar done?
Perhaps I'm an optimist, but I think it is a bit premature to start asking if Weewar is gone. Considering how big EA is it is totally reasonable that the simplest fixes, even something like restarting a database, could be hard to do. This is especially tough because Ryan isn't on site.
— Henry
Big thank you to Ryan!!!!!!! xxxxx


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Published: Saturday, May 25, 2013 at 8:05 a.m.
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COWPENS, SC--Mr. David Dean Dawkins, 53, of 107 Bunch Street, passed on Wednesday, May 22, 2013. He was the husband of Mrs. Deborah Ann Manigan Dawkins. Mr. Dawkins was the son of Mr. Renzo and Mrs. Annie Mae Wood Dawkins.
In addition to his wife, survivors include: his two daughters, Lavaugna C. Dawkins and Shaquana S. Dawkins, Deacon Ronald Dawkins, Donald Dawkins and Mark Dawkins; one sister, Linda A. Long.
Funeral services will be held on Sunday, May 26, 2013 at 2:00pm at the Mt. Calvary Baptist Church. Rev. McKinley Miles will officiate.
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By molini on Apr 03, 2007
Here is an exciting bit of news for folks interested in the Atom Publishing Protocols (APP).
Check out Tim Bray's blog posting regarding the upcoming Atom Publishing Protocol interop that is being hosted at the Google campus in Mountain View. Everybody is invited, provided they bring along an APP implementation, client or server.
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How do I love thee? Let me count the ways. (Sonnet 43)
by Elizabeth Barrett Browning
How do I love thee? Let me count the ways. (Sonnet 43) Introduction
In A Nutshell
"How do I love thee? Let me count the ways" is one of the most famous love poems in the English language. Because it's so famous, many readers mistakenly attribute the poem to that master sonneteer, William Shakespeare. However, "How do I love thee?" was written centuries after Shakespeare – in fact, it's only been around for a little over 150 years. Prominent Victorian poet Elizabeth Barrett Browning first published the poem in 1850.
The poem was part of a sonnet sequence called Sonnets from the Portuguese. The title of the sequence is intentionally misleading; Barrett Browning implied to her readers that these were sonnets originally written by someone else in Portuguese and that she had translated them, whereas in reality they were her own original compositions in English. ("My little Portuguese" was actually an affectionate nickname that Elizabeth's husband used for her in private.) The sequence is comprised of 44 sonnets, with "How do I love thee?" appearing in the striking position of number 43, or second-to-last, making it an important part of the climax.
Most critics agree that Barrett Browning wrote the sonnets, not as an abstract literary exercise, but as a personal declaration of love to her husband, Robert Browning (who was also an important Victorian poet). Perhaps the intimate origin of the sonnets is what led Barrett Browning to create an imaginary foreign origin for them. But whatever the original motives behind their composition and presentation, many of the sonnets immediately became famous, establishing Barrett Browning as an important poet through the 19th and 20th centuries. Phrases from Barrett Browning's sonnets, especially "How do I love thee?," have entered everyday conversation, becoming standard figures of speech even for people who have never read her poetry.
Why Should I Care?
We'll be honest here: sometimes it can be hard to care about a sonnet, especially a really abstract one like this that isn't necessarily about specific people, places, or things. But there are a few reasons you should care about this poem. One of them is the same reason that you should care about shoelaces, cell phone towers, the President of the United States, and marshmallows: they're important parts of our world, pretty much everyone knows about them, and they have a major impact on things around you. OK, maybe marshmallows don't have too major an impact (unless you're watching Ghostbusters), but you see what we mean. Both this poem itself – "How do I love thee?" – and its subject, love, are important parts of the world, stuff everybody else knows about, and you should probably know about it, too.
There's a more specific reason you should care about this poem, too. If you've ever had a crush on someone, fallen head-over-heels for a girl, or felt a warm fuzzy affection for a guy, then you've probably wondered how exactly this whole "love" thing works. After all, we all know that people fall in love and out of love, but how does it work while you're in it? What kinds of love are there, and how and when do they happen? And what if you love someone in many different, conflicting ways? These are eternal human questions, and they're the questions Barrett Browning asks – and tries to answer – with this sonnet.


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CONSTITUTION - The honorary mayor of Constitution turns 92 in a few months and he hasn't lost his sense of humor.
"I have a little poem," Clifford Holden said when asked about his age.
"I don't drink, I don't smoke, I don't chew, and I don't go out with girls that do-that's why I've lived to be 92," he said.
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Clifford Holden, 91, checks the rope on the flagpole at the small parklet he's maintained for more than 20 years in Constitution along Veto Road, just off Ohio 7 between Marietta and Belpre. (Photo by Sam Shawver)
It was Holden's next-door neighbor on Veto Road, Evelyn (Rhodes) Farley, who jokingly dubbed him mayor of Constitution a few years ago.
"Clifford is a wonderful person who has taken care of the flagpole and gazebo in our little pocket park along Veto Road for years," Farley said. "I grew up with him when we lived in the Gravel Bank area" (just north of Constitution).
Farley is a founder of what is now known as the Constitution Historical Society, a group dedicated to preserving the history of the area once home to Ephraim Cutler, an early community leader and legislator, and son of Manasseh Cutler, who wrote the Ordinance of 1787 that banned slavery from Ohio.
The small parklet area, just off Ohio 7, contains a marker bearing the history of Constitution, a wooden gazebo and a 30-foot flagpole with Old Glory flying at the top.
"Without Clifford we wouldn't even have a flagpole there," Farley said.
Holden moved into the Constitution area in 1962, and lives in a home originally built by a man named Lyman Hart.Fact Box
"I'm not sure how old the house is, but I was told Abe Lincoln was still alive when it was built," Holden said. "Lyman Hart was a federal agent who would round up Indians for the government and take them to a reservation in Oklahoma."
Holden and his wife, Marilyn, still live in the home on Veto Road, just up the street from the Constitution parklet.
An Army Air Corps veteran from World War II, Holden returned home and attended Marietta College, graduating in 1951.
"I worked for the (Internal Revenue Service) after graduation. We had an office upstairs in the U.S. Post Office in Marietta," he said.
His duties as an IRS agent included collecting money from local folks who hadn't paid their taxes-a job Holden didn't like too much.
"I decided that job wasn't for me," he said.
Later he began doing accounting work for Oak Mar, a local pipe and oil business owned by the Baron family.
"I had grown up around the oil fields, and as soon as the Barons found out about that they wanted me to keep working for them," Holden said. "I worked there for 60 years."
During that time he took on the responsibility of caring for the Jewish graveyard at Oak Grove Cemetery in Marietta.
"I go there any time there's a storm, and at least once each month to see that the gravestones are all right, and I sometimes pull the morning glories down after they grow over the fence that surrounds the Jewish cemetery," Holden said.
His cemetery-tending skills may have played a part in Holden's decision to help maintain the Constitution parklet near his home, a job he began when the small park was built in 1987 to commemorate Ephraim Cutler and the area's history.
Holden kept the grass mowed around the gazebo and flagpole, and stored the American Flag at his home to keep it out of inclement weather.
"That original flag wasn't weather-proof, so we would only fly it on special occasions like Veterans Day, Memorial Day or the 4th of July," he said.
Holden said the original flagpole was also rusting and in pretty bad shape, so about three years ago he decided it was time for a new pole.
"I wanted a larger pole, and determined it should be about 30 feet high," he said. "We eventually got some pipe donated by Bobby Anderson, a local drilling contractor."
But the pipe was in two pieces, so Farley's son, Keefe Poling, welded the pieces together to make a new 30-foot flagpole.
After some calculations, Holden determined to be stable enough the pole would have to be set in a hole that was drilled 8 feet deep. Double J Drilling from Williamstown bored the hole, and Anderson sent a rig to help set the pole in the ground.
The flagpole was set, but Holden still had to raise and lower the old flag on holidays-weather permitting.
"One day I was trying to untie a knot in the old rope on the flagpole," he said. "A neighbor, Emily Webb and her husband, who live just up the road, saw me struggling with the knot and stopped to help."
Webb, a member of the local Edward Parish Chapter Colonial Dames of the 17th Century, said when she saw how difficult it was for Holden to raise and lower the flag daily, she decided installing a light on the flagpole would help eliminate the necessity to take the flag down every day.
"The Colonial Dames is always looking for a project-especially when it involves something historical, like the flagpole at Constitution," Webb said. "We thought it would also be a great way to help the community."
She contacted Farley and asked if the group could purchase a solar-powered light that could be attached to the flagpole and illuminate the flag at night.
"I searched and searched, and finally found a solar light we ordered from Denver," Farley said.
The Colonial Dames donated $140 to purchase the light, and Hilltop Auto Wrecking brought a lift workers to help install the solar light on the flagpole.
"The light was finally installed on Nov. 4," Farley said.
"But we couldn't have done it without Clifford and all those who donated the materials and services."
Holden still takes care of the Constitution parklet, but said he now gets a lot of help from neighbor Tim Glover who assists with the mowing and upkeep of the area.


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This is a weekly editorial by WXII President and GM Hank Price:
All this week WXII 12, and the Guilford Merchants Association have been partnering to highlight the desperate need for food faced by so many families in our area.
No matter where you live, there are families you know who simply do not have enough to eat. In many cases, these are ordinary people who lost their jobs and have not been able to find adequate employment.
The dollars you have so generously contributed to this cause will go directly to feed those in need.
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Islander Fans,
This past weekend we traveled on our second road trip of the season to take on Texas Southern and Houston Baptist in the Houston Baptist Tournament. We left on Thanksgiving Day, which is always tough for me and my teammates not being able to go home and see our families, but instead we ate a five-star Thanksgiving dinner at the hotel in Houston. LOL.
What I chose to eat was, steak (medium-rare), mashed potatoes, green beans, an Arnold Palmer and no dessert :(
We stayed at a hotel where we were platinum customers *brush the shoulder.* My roommate was Alisa Roberts (aka Lis, aka Philly). Our room was I don't even know the words to describe it. It was fresh. We had a livin' room, two full size beds, two plasma TVs, a vanity and a bathroom. Let's talk about the showers first: the shower felt so good, the water felt perfect. Thus far, my favorite.
Now let's talk about the doors: when you go to sleep, all you had to do was slide the doors shut and flip the latch and it was pitch dark. It was the best sleep I've had in a while.
Friday afternoon we ate lunch in downtown Houston, across the street from the Galleria. I had some fettuccine alfredo with grilled chicken and six jumbo shrimps with an Island Cooler. The Island Cooler had mango, pineapple juice, Sprite in it which came with fruit in the straw and the fruit consisted of one orange, two pineapples, one strawberry and a lime. It was almost to pretty to drink!
On Friday we played in our first game of the tournament against Texas Southern and it was disappointing, but we learned a lot about ourselves. So much, that we bounced back on Saturday to beat Houston Baptist, 65-45 and it was a team effort – everyone got to play.
Throughout the whole trip, Sara Alva kept me laughing. "For the nation" (inside joke).
While traveling on the bus for four hours we watched "Laugh to Keep from Crying" by Tyler Perry. I'm sitting with our manager Da Da on the way back to Corpus...
Check in later I'm going to sleep.
Imani Dunn is a junior on the women's basketball team.


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Domestic violence shelter, homecoming ask for funds
February 13, 2013
PARKERSBURG — Wood County commissioners heard funding requests Monday from the Family Crisis Intervention Center and Parkersburg Homecoming....
Do either of the ladies requesting funds have any relatives working at the shelter?
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Bad idea people. This shelter will enable more peole it will ever help!This money will be used for women who will go right back to their abusers when all is said and done!
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*empathetic, not empathic
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Oh my goodness... I'm actually floored you seem empathic to the FCIC's needs, as I would have expected you to make some ignorant comment about how those who suffer from domestic violence probably had it coming anyway, and services like that are a waste of time...because it would rank right up there with every other clueless comment you've made on this forum in the past. Which leads me to believe that the reason for your "empathy" now is just to be contrary regarding anything the commission does, simply because you don't like those who have been elected to it. I find your "empathy" and "concern" for the FCIC to be vapid, at best.
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The Vikings didn't hang onto their state championship title this year, but regional champs is nothing to hang their head about.
The defending state champions limped into state finals without four key players on Friday. Despite the huge holes in their midfield, the girls put up a fight in an 8-3 loss to Pahrump Valley in the Division I-A state semifinals.
"There's definitely no reason to hang their head regarding this season because of what we were able to accomplish with the injuries we had," head coach DeLeon said. "It was going to be a tough game for us obviously, not having those four girls, but to make it this far with the kind of issues we had."
The Vikings went into the match without captains Cassidy Jackson and Alisa Caro. They were also missing Kelly Colleton and one of their leading scorers Brittany Sanchez, who recorded 15 goals for the Vikings this season.
With the four out, there were some big holes in the Vikings' middle.
"The midfield is basically like the quarterback of a football team or the setter of a volleyball team," DeLeon said.
To fill the holes new girls moved up.
"They really stepped it up," DeLeon said. "Especially a lot of those substitutions, and the girls we pulled up from junior varsity who have not played with us all season."
The veterans played all the harder.
Senior Brooke King closed out her high school soccer career with one of her best performances.
The Vikings were trailing 4-1 at halftime when King slammed in a goal in the 49th minute.
"She took on two strong physical players and ended up beating the goalie," DeLeon said. "It was just a great individual effort by her to get that goal, but by then it was already 5-2 or 4-2."
Pahrump, the soon-to-be state champions, were playing an extremely physical game. Normally extremely physical is South Tahoe's speed, but on Friday the girls were playing more timid soccer than normal, DeLeon said.
Maybe it was because so many veteran players were out, or maybe it was because the younger girls were getting comfortable on the field, either way Pahrump took advantage.
The Vikings got out to an early lead.
Desi Benavidez scored within the first 2 minutes on a scramble inside the box. Pahrump's goalie dropped the ball, and Benavidez was in the right place to knock it in.
Pahrump tied it up 9 minutes in. They then added three more to make it 4-1 at halftime.
Aside from King's goal, the second half was a similar story.
The Vikings added one final goal when Brianna Carroll took a corner kick. Andi Jo Embry was on the back post and deflected the goal in nice and easy.
"The girls came together at the right time to be able to beat Truckee in the Northern regional playoffs and then to beat Elko," DeLeon said. "There's definitely a good core of players for next season. I don't see them dropping any kind of momentum."
South Tahoe graduates seven seniors.


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On the surface, he looks like the typical liberal – a New Jersey-bred Jewish Democrat committed to all the left-wing causes, from gay rights and reproductive choice to unions and permissive immigration.
Scratch below the surface, though, of this balding, middle-aged liberal from Boulder, Colo., and you find something else, a dedicated gun lover. It all started for Dan Baum as a young kid at summer camp, where he finally found a sport where he could compete with the young jocks who could swing a baseball bat or tennis racket so deftly.
That sport was riflery, the one place where Baum found a level playing field. Guns have remained his passion since that day.
Who better to give us a fair, middle-of-the-road, see-both-sides portrait of the psyche of gun lovers?
He's one of them. But at the same time, he's not.
"By the time I was a voting adult, I'd begun to perceive the gun lover in me as some kind of malevolent twin," he writes, reeling off all his liberal positions that make him an atypical gun lover. "The diatribes of the gun-rights movement often came wrapped in appeals to limit government, deport immigrants, cut taxes and elect conservatives – everything I opposed. I felt like the child of a bitter divorce with allegiance to both parents."
That's what makes this book so great. Baum, a master of self-deprecating humor, pokes fun at himself as the guy with glasses and pleated pants who struggles to blend in with the gun crowd, even with his NRA baseball cap on. He's also none-too-shy about deprecating others, especially knee-jerk gun-control activists and cliché-spouting "gun guys," both sides settling for easy answers and inaccurate stereotypes of their opponents.
This is a breezy, anecdote-filled, humorous read, penned by a terrific writer who travels across much of the country to learn what makes his fellow gun owners tick. He frequents the obvious – gun shops, shooting ranges and gun shows – and some places you might not think of, including a Hollywood "rubber gun" armory, a German shooting society, "run and gun" competitions, a machine-gun club and even a Texas pig hunt. He also interviews those at both ends of a gun barrel, killers and shooting victims.
Baum gives the readers fresh perspectives, taking the gun debate well beyond the usual loud, angry and simplistic arguments.
One example: Aaron Zelman, founder of Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership. Zelman complains to Baum that many elected officials pushing gun control have been Jewish, including Howard Metzenbaum, Charles Schumer and Dianne Feinstein, calling them guilty of a "myopic self-delusion," after what happened to Eastern European Jews during the Nazi era. Zelman even found a smoking gun, an English translation of Hitler's 1938 gun-control laws, containing many of the same phrases found in the U.S. Gun Control Act of 1968.
"What could be clearer?" Baum writes. "American's premier gun-control law was based on laws the Nazis had written to disarm the Jews before exterminating them. It was a solid-gold slam dunk."
Hmmm. Interesting.
But just when you think Baum's writing a manifesto for gun-rights activists, he blasts much of their us-against-them tone, rhetoric and strategy, including their constant railing that violent crime is "out of control," when data show the opposite. And he takes them to task for talking about protecting themselves from "criminals."
"You'd have thought that 'criminals' were a distinct community, like pilots or bus drivers, a card-carrying profession whose members could be identified by their striped shirts, Lone Ranger masks and newsboy caps. But a lot of shootings were … done by people who were law-abiding until the moment they picked up the gun."
And here's Baum's take on the lure of hunting:
"But for me, hunting was more about the unworldly relationship with one special animal that gives himself over in return for the care you've taken to understand him and his habitat. Then his flesh becomes your flesh, sealing the bond."
Baum unveils a modest three-step suggestion to start a saner debate over gun policy, including making gun owners criminally liable for crimes committed with guns stolen from their homes. The other two components are improved training and better background checks, none of which he believes imperil gun rights.
But for now, he says, the gun "debate" has turned into "sanctimony and name calling on one side, a snarling defensive crouch on the other." In Baum's world, you have to stop to think which side is which.
Gun Guys: A Road Trip
By Dan Baum
Alfred A. Knopf
338 pages, $26.95
Gene Warner is a veteran News reporter who hasn't touched a gun since riflery competition at summer camp, more than 50 years ago.


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A deadly crash near Dos Pueblos Canyon west of Goleta took the life of an Orange County woman. It happened just after 10 a.m. in the southbound lanes of Highway 101.
Investigators say a large flatbed truck towing a trailer with nursery supplies went out of control from the northbound lanes, across the center grass medium and into the southbound lanes.
That's where 64-year old Lois Campbell was driving her pickup truck and a violent collision took place.
Campbell was pronounced dead at the scene. The Santa Barbara County Coroner's office says she was from Brea, in Orange County.
Her passenger, 68-year old Thomas Campbell was taken to the hospital. The Santa Barbara County Fire Dept. say his injuries were moderate. His relationship with the driver was not known.
The name of the driver at the wheel of the larger truck has not been released. The truck was marked with the Greatheart nursery logo. The company is located in Arroyo Grande.
That driver was at the scene with blood on his face, answering questions from California Highway Patrol officers. It's unclear if the accident was the result of a mechanical failure or a driver error.
Both southbound lanes of the freeway were closed for over an hour as part of the investigation. Traffic backed up for miles. Some drivers turned around and took a mountain detour using Highway 154.
Officer Jim Richards said the CHP will do a detailed investigation that includes aerial photos. Richards was in a patrol plane when the accident took place and helped to coordinate the response from the sky.
"This traffic collision will be very extensive. That's why we have so many resources out," said Richards. "Everything will be measured, photographed, and drawn to scale. There will be a background check on the drivers, where they were coming from and where they were going."


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Prison Overcrowding
Lawmakers must find real solution
April 11, 2013
Unless state officials reduce overcrowding in prisons and jails, a federal judge probably will order them to do so....
Watched a show recently about prison. The mentally ill are often in solitary - they get NO treatment. How can they get better just locked in a cell?
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"neocurmudgeon74" I agree! They should legalize pot. That would help do away with the Mexican drug cartels, and the smuggling of pot. But, I don't think it would help much to reduce overcrowding in our prisons and jails. There overcrowded with drug addicts like Jamie Thompson, and people with mental health problems like Tennis Maynard, and until we deal with drug related crimes and untreated mentally ill people, they are always going to be overcrowded.
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Denver,legalizing drugs lowers the price. That's a 2-edged sword, of course; but one edge does take away most of the motivation for drug cartels & smugglers. It tames the turf battles -- why kill someone over a market that yields little profit?
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They closed all the state mental institutions. Loaded all the mental people up on drugs and turned them loose to their own devices. Its a badly run operation. We are reaping the seeds sown by that hair-brained decision.
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Ship them out of state for housing, for half the cost like 34 other states in the country do.
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Even if drugs were legalize they still would have to buy them, and that's where the criminal activate come in. Like Jamie Ray Thompson who was caught with a stolen tractor along Lee Creek Road when he got stuck in a ditch, Thompson was in possession of oxycodone, which had also been stolen. Putting people in jail doesn't cure addiction
As for mental health in-house units. we have police and the military to protect us, but we let people like Tennis Melvin Maynard who killed Mingo County Sheriff Eugene Crum, walk the streets. WHY?
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"Cruel and Unusual punishment"--From what----Sitting around in an air conditioned prison--reading and watching TV.Yes, drug related crimes are the reason for prison overcrowding--But i'm sure the dealers and users know that when they sell and use the junk.The only good drug dealer is a dead one!!!!
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AaronS & Denver together have it covered. Decriminalize a lot of current drug offenses -- but invest the savings in rehab.
& yes, I know who is going to post that rehab is a crock. But it does some good, & is something to build on.
Wonder if c-r-o-c-k will get through the filter ;-\
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The solution isn't more big government intervention; the solution is to legalize drugs. In doing so, not only will the prison population be reduced, the money spent to investigate, prosecute and imprison individuals for something they are doing to their body will be saved. Between potential taxes on drugs and money saved, the state could repair and replace our faltering infrastructure and the federal government could balance the budget in a very short time.
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For once I have to agree with you Denver. Locking these people up, while needed, until they are treated for their problems - they will continue to be a problem to society.
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Instead of building new prisons, how about taking that money and build some drug rehab facilities and some mental health in-house units. It is next to impossible to find a rehab with available beds and the funds to accept non-insured addicts. "Get to the root of the problem which is causing our prisons to be overcrowded." Drug related crimes and untreated mentally ill people are the leading causes for overcrowding prisons. It's not rocket science.
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9 Yoga Moves to Blast Holiday Calories
Holidays are a time for family, friends and — let's not kid ourselves — food. I love to go away for a few days and eat things I normally don't in amounts that would shock a Sumo wrestler. Hence, it may be the season to be jolly, but it's also a time when it's all too easy to pack on the pounds along with the cheer.


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The storm skiers and snowboarders have been waiting for arrived Saturday, dropping a solid 8 inches of snow on Breckenridge and 3-7 inches around Summit County. Forecasters say there may be more to come this week. "There are a couple of different things coming in, "National Weather Service meteorologist Kari Bowen said. "We might see a little bit more as these little disturbances move through the mountains, drop a little bit of snow and then move on." Some weather watchers are calling for as much as a few more inches in some mountain areas as the next system moves across Colorado tonight and into Tuesday. A bluebird break from snow through midweek will likely precede another winter blast arriving on Friday or Saturday, meteorologists say. The next storm is still a little too far out to call accumulations or exact locations, but it is moving along a southwestern track and is expected to hit the San Juans in southern Colorado first and hardest. "But everywhere in Colorado, including Summit County, will get some good snow Friday into Saturday," weather watcher and blogger Joel Gratz said. "It's too early for details, but we look good. We're in a good storm track at this point with chances for snow and colder weather every couple days." With local resorts' snowpack building and a more continuous flow of winter weather targeting the state, some weather watchers are optimistic heading into the holiday season. "There are more storms coming during the third week of December," Gratz posted on his blog, OpenSnow.com. "We should be in pretty good shape around Colorado by Christmas week ..." Temperatures plummeted to below zero Saturday night, and are expected to stay chilly through the first part of the week. Highs are only set to climb into the teens today, but windchill may make it feel as cold as -24, with gusts up to 26 mph possible today. There is a 60 percent chance of snow today and a 30 percent chance on Tuesday. The sun is expected to reappear Wednesday, with the mercury climbing closer to seasonal normals for Summit County. "Temperatures are going to slowly start to go up, because the wind changes," Bowen said. Breckenridge Ski Resort was reporting 8 inches of fresh snow Sunday and 13 in the last week. Copper Mountain and Keystone Resort each got 6 inches of new powder out of Saturday's storm, while Arapahoe Basin reported 4 inches new Sunday and 9 in the previous three days. "Snow is always a good sight to see here at Breck," BSR spokeswoman Kristen Petitt Stewart stated in an email. "Our town and ski area will look beautiful next week when Breckenridge is featured as the host of the 2012 Dew Tour Mountain Championships."The Dew Tour kicks off in Breckenridge Thursday.
The flip side of significant snow accumulation, however, is the inevitable spike in avalanche danger. This weekend's snowpack is building on what avalanche experts called a patchy, but very weak base, making small slides easy to trigger in the right places. "Remember, even small avalanches can result in fatal consequences," Colorado Avalanche Information Center forecaster John Snook stated in an online report Sunday. "Even a small ride right now will likely drag you through trees, rocks and other shallow obstacles. Don't let the long-awaited-for new snow lull you into poor decisions." Southwest to northwest winds built deeper snowpack on northern and eastern slopes, particularly at and above tree line. Avalanche danger was rated 'considerable' on all north, east and southeast aspects. Everywhere else is rated 'moderate' in the Vail and Summit County region. The latest weather forecasts are available online at www.weather.gov and www.OpenSnow.com. Up-to-date avalanche forecasts and danger ratings can be found at www.avalanche.state.co.us.


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Manchin: Sequester cuts will hurt W.Va.
State will lose millions of dollars in funding
February 27, 2013
PARKERSBURG — The impact from the federal spending reductions dubbed the sequester cuts in Washington speak will be in the millions of dollars in West Virginia, a U.S. senator said on Tuesda....
manchin needs not try to say we (wv) agree with his plans. most dont but white collared criminals are not held accountable! I am sticking with my rights under The Constitution of The United States of America! As it shall remain.
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To: Madasheck, You are exactly correct in your statement. As I said, " We the People" have no representation at this point.
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To Brooks: You crack me up!!!! You want facts? Fact, the next time nObama says something, anything, please record it, then watch your recording two to four weeks later and you will find that nObama did the opposite of what he said two to four weeks earlier. Brooks, I am telling you, this works. Brooks, I did not care for Bush niether, he turned his head as Wall Street and his oil and gas buddies plundered this country. Brooks, in my pinion, these politicians have one common goal, to "line their pockets" on the backs of the working class. No hatred here, just very frustrated that "We the People" have no representation.
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It is time to cut spending. The problem is that like the "NIMBY" principal that everyone wants to save their sacred cow and sacrifice someone else's. So, perhaps an across the board cut will be the only solution. BTW, I have seen articles to the effect that our military budget exceeds the military expenditures of at least the next ten highest spending countries. We can all remember stories of expensive toilet seats bought by the military. Also, we all know that there is a lot of waste in domestic sectors as well. My only regret is that salaries of our elected officials in Washington are exempt from the supposedly across the board reductions.
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The liberals are afraid the sequester will happen. Then all their fear mongering will be shown to be just that, when nothing bad happens and the economy starts to improve as Wall Street reacts to fiscal responsibility.
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Maybe Joe and his "No Lables" will get Obama to compromise as the Republicans have... Oh Joe already sided with Obama... Oh "No Lables" was started by and is run by liberals. Go Figure.
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I voted for Obama the first time. Not the second. While this Sequester will hurt everyone, I hope it will teach everyone a lesson. It's unfortunate that we have to act like high schoolers when dealing with the public. Dems are throwing out their so called facts. Reps are showing their so called facts. Honestly does any one of you on this forum really know. I don't and will not even attempt to think I do. Personally, I quit looking at it with any kind of seriousness. Try to find the humor in the government because they are all a bunch of idiots on both sides of the isle
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Manchin VOTED FOR IT! He needs to shut up about it and take responsibility. Good lord, this sounds like "we have to pass the bill before we can see what is in the bill" all over again!
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hiphappens....who's asking you to give up your guns??? Really...WHO? NO ONE!! NO ONE IS TAKING AWAY YOUR GUNS....what a moron.
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I as a lifetime resident of wv agree wholeheartedly with observant. My dealings with all officials barring a couple with morals is the biggest joke . they have no problems sticking it to the common joe. I believe fate will come full circle. I will not give up my guns without taking others to*****with me.
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HERDONE...is it pink and fuzzy on your planet?? WHEN have the GOP compromise????WHEN?? NOT LATELY!!!
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gorilla....give it rest...every president has taken vacations....this one WAY less than the last btw...AGAIN..DO THE RESEARCH for a change...but no...you people don't care about FACTS...just your right wing dumb ass rants.
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Observent....how was it not fair and square?? And I want FACTS, REAL ONES...or don't bother answering...I and most everyone I know didn't vote for Bush either....SO WHAT?? You don't get to obstruct the economy and growth in Congress cause your party has become a piece of crap...yet that's what is happening..and THAT is why we are not making any progress. I know I'm wasting my breath here. You are too stupid in your hatred for this President to look at the FACTS and the MATH of the last administration.
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The National Debt this morning is $16,606,243,000,000.
According to Congressional Budget Office (CBO) the proposed Sequester cuts amount to 1.2 percent of 2013 spending which is enough to keep the government running for about 4.5 days.
What did the Obama family vacations cost the taxpayers in his first four years in office?
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AGAIN I WILL STATE: "WE {REPUBLICANS & DEMOCRATS ALIKE} DON'T WANT A "ONE PARTY" POLITICAL SYSTEM IN THIS COUNTRY.... The overly biased Right Wing here in the Mid Ohio Valley need to take a LOOK at the BIG POLITICIAL PICTURE {NATIONALLY} and stop their support of a RADICAL Party that has invaded the ONCE RESPONSIBLE & RESPECTABLE REPUBLICAN PARTY. TAKE HEED: The "working class" of this nation have spoken, loudly & clearly.... It appears that RADICAL elements of the RIGHT, are out to DESTROY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY..
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The Republicans refuse to compromise? That is all they have done. They have let Obama have everything he wants. Remember during the debates Obama looked at Romney and said the Sequester was not a big deal. Now the sky is Falling ..
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To Brooks: "Some" of the "Public" voted for nOBoma, and it was not "Fair and Square".
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You people don't have a clue. Obama has increased government spending from an average of 20.7% of GDP over the past 40 years to 24% during his administration
The number of federal employees grew by 123,000, or 6.2%, under President Obama
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Well said Brooks. After 4 years of obstruction from the RIGHT WING, the people of this country are beginning to recogonize where the problem lies. Unfortunately, this may ultamately result in the total demise of the REPUBLICAN party. WE DON'T WANT A "ONE PARTY" POLITICAL SYSTEM IN THIS COUNTRY...
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impeachobama...so you like that the top 2% continue to get tax breaks, and pay less taxes than the majority of workers in this country? The country is broke because of the Bush tax cuts and two wars put on the credit card of our taxes. You need to look at the FACTS...you know...do some research and stop watching Faux news and listening to Rush....but I doubt that will ever happen...you are part of the problem...not the solution. The country elected Obama fair and square, unlike Bush btw...the obstuctionism by the GOP is causing the problems...not the President.
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Another reason why "Do nothing Joe" neeeds to go!!! We need someone that can get the job done, and Joe is not getting the job done.......Just another "Pretty Boy" feeding his ego pretending to be a representative of our state.
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You dont have to hope Republicans will stand their ground. They refuse to compromise.
The O'l game of making Obama a one term president is still on for some reason.
Oh well let them do nothing. They are just making themselves less relevant the more they act like this.
The number one reason for all of this lack of action is simply because quite a few folks on the right are just trying to keep their "jobs".
A perfect example is John Boehner.
Politics before country as usual.
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the all mighty osamo obama signed the sequester law now he blames it on republicans...this coutry is broke and all he wants to do is raise taxes...its going to be a long four years with nothing getting done. i hope the republicans stand thier ground..in the mean time gas prices and unemployment keeps going up.
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What I would like to know about the Sequester cuts is, "If everybody is against them, who the *ell voted for them?"
Apparently congress doesn't think their approval rating is low enough.
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Statement by Marion C. Blakey, President and CEO of the Aerospace Industries Association, on the European Union decision to suspend enforcement of the Emissions Trading Scheme.
Arlington, Va. – "The Aerospace Industries Association welcomes today's announcement by EU Commissioner for Climate Action Connie Hedegaard that the EU will suspend enforcement of the inclusion of aviation emissions from non-European countries in its CO2 emissions trading scheme. AIA has long supported a global, consensus approach to dealing with CO2 emissions from aviation."
"We are especially pleased that the EU has taken last week's draft ICAO Council decision as the positive impetus it needed to pause its controversial trading scheme and let the international community work out a solution in a collaborative atmosphere leading up to ICAO's triennial assembly next fall. AIA, the international civil aviation industry and the UN have consistently maintained that the International Civil Aviation Organization is the appropriate body to address this issue. ICAO's broad approach to CO2 emissions reduction takes into account technological and operational improvements as well as economic measures."
"While AIA recognizes and applauds this important development, Ms. Hedegaard's plan must still be approved by the European Parliament and Ministers. It is also important to note that her proposal pauses, but does not repeal, the ETS law. Consequently, AIA continues to support the need for the passage of S.1956: European Union Emissions Trading Scheme Prohibition Act of 2011."


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well, this is weird. PS3 Media Server 1.72.0 was working perfectly until yesterday...but now, most video files don't play through MEncoder any longer.
I don't understand what happened.
MKVs, AVIs and MOVs fail to play. I get an error message 'this content cannot be played. (800288E1) each time I try to play any of these files. On the other hand, MP4 video files play ok.
I tested MP3 playback, it works fine. JPG images display ok too.
My PS3 Media Server is 1.72.0. I've the VLC 2.0.5 player installed and JAVA Version 7 update 13. I'm running Win 7 x64. My laptop and PS3 are connected to a wired 1GBit router. I've attached the pastebin of Debug.log file. http://pastebin.com/uV0XJuBL
If anyone can explain to me what is causing playback to fail, I'd be very thankful.


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THE NEWSPAPER OF THE SALISH,PEND'd OR1ELLES AND KOOTENAI TRIBES OF THE FLATHEAD RESERVATION 15C HARKOOSTA Volume 4 ¦ Number 1 New Moon of the Blooming Bitterroot May 1,1974 County, Tribes Working Out Food Stamp Plan Commodities Drying Up, Food Stamps by July 1 Poison: For better or for worse, food stamps are about to become a fact of life on the Flathead Reservation. The venerable old commodity program will die a slow death by June 3 0 of this year and low-income people on the reservation will have to learn how to use food stamps Food Stamps are coupons which needy persons buy at a discount and use to purchase food from participating food stores. Details on exactly how the Tribe or the reservation counties will administer the new foods program are not completely clear yet. The Tribal Council and Lake County Commissioners were to have met in Ronan April 18 to work out a plan to switch the county from commodities to food stamps. Commissioner William Burley assured the Council that the county was working on the problems and would keep the tribe informed. Among the many problems to be worked out before food stamps can become available to county needy is the question of who will ultimately have responsibility for Indian recipients. The County protested the switch last year on the basis that it had neither the funds to expand the current welfare system to include food stamp certification and distribution, nor the legal authority to prosecute food stamp law violations. The County pointed out in a statement of protest to the IKS.D.A. last fall that the con-current jurisdiction agreement between the Tribe, State and Federal Government would not allow them to enforce food stamp laws against enrolled Indians on the reservation. They also noted that in spite of their legal inability to enforce laws, they would be held accountable for illegally distributed food stamps. The Tribe, for their part, are also reluctant to let the County run the whole show. Tribal authorities and CHRs fear that non-members would tend to be less sensitive about special Indian needs and problems and that a county controlled food stamp program might eliminate many Indian families which have a real need for extra assistance. The tribe is currently operating the commodities food program for both the reservation counties and the Indian people and the feeling is that they have the experience and the cultural background to deal more effectively in food distribution. Indian authorities have also noted other possible compli- cations in a county-controlled food stamp program. They say that Indians in distant communities would be forced to travel to Poison two, three or more times per month to satisfy the additional certification red tape and pick up their stamps. They point out that a number of long hair families may have difficulty understanding the hodge-podge of technical requirements and might be inclined to forget about stamps rather than go through what they might view as a (Turn to FOOD STAMPS on page 3) Mission Unit Logging Will Be Delayed Dixon: Scheduled logging projects in the Mission Mountains will be delayed until a special "clean logging" pilot program has been completed and reviewed. The action, taken by the Tribal Council April 12, will delay the scheduled start of several Mission mountain foothill logging projects for at least one year, it was estimated. The Ashley Unit, located between McDonald and Mission Lakes on the valley-facing slopes of the Missions, was to have been sold this fall. It would have been the first of eight units along the Mission foothills between Ronan and St. Ignatius to be logged over the next six years. The total volume of the eight scheduled sales would be 2 2 3,0 0 0,0 0 0 board feet. This latest Council action over the controversial Mission projects was based on the recommendations of the Economic Development Committee. The sale of the 9,000,000 board feet Ashley unit was turned over to the committee by council action two weeks earlier. The committee was instructed to consider a plan to log the unit using horse and tired skidding with road construction only in draws and report its findings back to the Council. The motion during the March 21 meeting, to log the unit with these restrictions, was made by Councilman E.W. Morigeau, Poison. That motion was modified to give the EDC Committee the power to review the restrictions with a second by Councilman Pat Lefthand, Elmo. In reviewing the proposed logging plan, the committee...... composed of Morigeau, Committee Chairman Vic Stinger, Pablo, Thorns "Bearhead" Swaney, St. Ignatius, and John Malatare, Arlee..concluded that the Morigeau plan constituted an experimental procedure and should not, therefore, be applied to a moderately large unit such as the Ashley. The committee also reviewed six logging methods posed as alternatives for the Ashley Unit by the Bureau of Indian Affairs Forestry Department. The BIA alternatives ranged (Turn to MISSIONS on page 2)
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