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Do your ever wonder if some self-proclaimed open source projects really 'get it' what it means to truly be about being 'free and open source' versus just using FOSS for other means? Sometimes I really have to wonder, because I keep running into examples where projects touting open source software engage in behavior where they glaringly contradict the holistic and philosophical embrace of its ideals. There's a lot of faking the FOSS going on out there.
What got me going on this was my recent participation in a Trixbox 2.0 webinar (web seminar) of its new Asterisk based pbx system. Trixbox takes asterisk, tacks on a gui configuration app, along with SugarCRM, linux, and other goodies, to create what it touts as a complete self-contained harddisk installable 'Open Source IP-PBX', all with free and open source software. Now here's where the philosophical disconnect pours out.
At the appointed hour I dutifully go to the website emailed to me as a registered participant, fire up Firefox on my PCLinuxOS laptop, and try to login and... In order to participate in the webinar you had to use a Windows based system, because the company used to conduct the webinar required a Windows webapp had to be downloaded and used in order to get access to its site. Luckily, I kept XP on this laptop for just such situations, and was able to eventually get into the webinar. But why did I have to go through this?
Does Trixbox (or maybe Fonality which bought them) completely understand the full philosophy behind being 'free and open source'? It doesn't seem so, because to see a webinar of their FOSS based system you could only do so by using the epitome of a non-free and closed operating system. Can you say 'extreme contradiction'?
I'm sure you can site your own examples where open source projects have exhibited similar occasions of philosophical brainlock. And its not like Trixbox didn't have viable alternatives to present the information with FOSS based tools. I imagine it was just a case of expediency, laziness, and money driven (versus philosophical consistent) decision making. I mean, apparently no one gave a real thought about the holistic contradictions of what they were doing.
On a smaller scale, these contradictions abound all around. Take the podcast about linux, or some other open source software, that's provided only as an mp3 file (a formerly patented format), instead of as an ogg file, or an open source project's website that uses gif or jpeg pictures picture instead of open source consistent png images.
You see, I think if you claim to be about open source software then be about using open source software as much as possible. As a good example of living this philosophy to the fullest, check out thisopen source radio station. This project illustrates that a total commitment to FOSS can be achieved without a sacrifice in functionality or ideals.
The way I see it, there are a lot of people, projects, and companies faking the FOSS. When they think they can make money off of it, they tout it up front, but otherwise they take the path of least resistance, and fail to use FOSS for behind the scenes tasks, or they fail to force partners and vendors to work with them using open software and documents, and patent free formats.
So I encourage projects to reduce their FOSS hypocrisy/contradiction index. Do a consistency check in all areas of activity and assess how much, and how well, you are conforming to the ideals of using free software, and exemplifying for others to see how important it is in all areas. After all, would you ever see the (Python based) turbogears website being done with Ruby on Rails, or vice versa? At some point you have to exhibit you truly believe in what you're pushing others to use, or then why should they?
I not trying to be evangelical here either. I'm fully aware FOSS applications aren't available in every field of endeavor, and can't work with some existing file formats or legacy data, or for other reasons won't be viable. Yeh, that's a given right now.
But when you use FOSS, and claim to be a proponent, and you get to choose what you can use to generate your own documents and files, and you use .mp3 over .ogg, or .wmv over .flac, or .doc over .odt, man, that's not only being hypocritical, that borders on treason.
gif and jpeg are free
You are wrong to assume the gif and jpeg formats to be non-free. Both formats were declared free to implement without having to pay any license fees by their creators, Compuserve and JPEG respectively. I guess you wanted to refer to the legal troubles both formats suffered from patent trolling.
GIF was troubled by Unisys having a patent on the LZW compression technique used in the format. That patent expired in 2003 [1]. JPEG was having trouble by Forgent claiming to have a patent on parts of the standard. However, that patent was invalidated in May 2006 by the USTPO on grounds of prior art. Furthermore, the patent expired in October 2006 [2]. JPEG has always said their standards were free to implement for everyone [3].
It is true that the threat of submarine patents still exist for gif and jpeg, but then they exist for vorbis, png, theora etc. just as well. There could always be a company hiding in the dark but eventually coming out to claim that they have a patent encumbering any of those "free" formats.
Many Free Software programs implement gif and jpeg, you don't have to rely on non-free software in order to utilise them. Therefore, your criticism and recommendation not to use these formats is wrong. While it might be a better idea morally to use formats like png and vorbis, as they were created specifically to avoid patent encumbrance, there's nothing wrong with using free standards like gif and jpeg. One would recommend to prefer png over gif on technical grounds, but jpeg is virtually the only popular lossy image compression format Free Software implementations are available for. If you want people not to use it you should point them to a technically viable alternative first.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gif#Unisys_and_LZW_patent_enforcement
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jpeg#Potential_patent_issues
[3] http://www.jpeg.org/newsrel1.html
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I had no I idea that png,
I had no I idea that png, vorbis or theora used patented routines. I thought the purpose of developing those formats was to develop a patent free alternative format that anybody was free to exploit. If these formats don't contain patented routines, how can a submarine patent affect their usage?
Hmmm, I could have written that sentence a wee bit clearer. I didn't want to say that those submarine patents for png, vorbis etc. actually exist. I wanted to say that the risk of some company having a submarine patent on any of those formats is just the same as with jpeg or gif.
As you said, formats like png, vorbis etc. got developed to be free of patent encumbrance. I'm sure the developers of those formats have done significant research in order to make sure that there aren't any patents related to those formats that could be a threat. However, with thousands of patents issued every year, you can never be sure. No matter what you do, there's always the risk of a submarine patent causing trouble. You know the sad story of software patents in the United States.
Valid Point
I think Jabari makes a very valid point but I also feel that forcing yourself to use FOSS makes us aware of areas where FOSS has opportunities for improvement. On many projects that I undertake, I try to use FOSS from start to finish but often find that there just aren't viable solutions available for one component or another. But this is exactly where FOSS was conceived, if you can't find a solution you build your own. If we want FOSS to become more mainstream, we need to identify the areas that are lacking and come up with solutions.
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FOSS has the potential to be
FOSS has the potential to be 100% sufficient for anybody's requirements by virtue of the code existing for anybody. The problem is, when the free software app is not sufficient for a user's requirement, people are reluctant to invest their resources into developing the app to become sufficient. This means the user has to invest time and manpower to developing the app or investing time and money to pay someone else to develop the app. This is the problem that I see on the Internet. People have an expectation that FOSS developers to implement feature X found on Proprietary app JKL without payment.
As Fonality goes, so goes Trixbox
Fonality bought Trixbox, and you're now seeing the effects of Fonality's screw-the-community mentality. Chris Lyman of Foanlity took Asterisk 1.0 (the GPL-licensed open source pbx) and built an apparently-closed source commercial product around it.
Fonality's marketing rides the coattails of Asterisk's good name and visibility... "ASTERISK-BASED" their ads scream. Are they following the GPL? Fonality doesnt publish source code. They claim to have "improved" Asterisk, and they're clearly benefitting from us, the Asterisk community, but they're definitely not giving back. Guess their changes really aren't that significant, or Fonality's embarassed/scared to publish the source. Either way, Fonality and its stepchild, Trixbox are not living the open source spirit.
Isn't asterik released unter a dual-licensing model? Fonality might just have purchased a non-free license, in which case they would not have to publish the source code of the asterisk software, at all. However, they would still need to release the source code of other components as long as they haven't managed to obtain non-free licenses for them, as well. You can't obtain a non-free license for the Linux kernel for instance, though.
If fonality actually was violating the GPL, it would be up to the copyright holders to decide whether to take legal action or not. Unfortunately, not many Free Software developers are ready to undergo the legal struggles in order to protect their rights. Harald Welte and his http://gpl-violations.org/ campaign is one of them, but they have a huge case load.
I agree
I agree with the article 100%...
FOSS commitment from an open source radio station
Hi Jabari,
I'm one of the guys involved with the "open source radio station" (KRUU, http://kruufm.com) that you mention. And I would like to unfortunately put our hypocrisy on the table. We're actually pushing quite hard to be totally FOSS, but have run into a couple of hopefully temporary roadblocks. This has caused us to use mp3 for now. The issues are as follows (and we would love to hear from anyone who can give us alternatives or solutions):
We need to be able to stream our content and not have it available for download. This is due to copyright restrictions and our broadcast license for tracks that we have ascap/bmi licenses for. This is basically commercially available music that people are familiar with. At present we use Flash as the web-embedded player of choice. Unfortunately flash only supports mp3. Hence our releasing most of the audio for download at our site in mp3 format. Internal to KRUU we're mostly Ogg, but allow people to bring in their shows as aif or mp3 (because we allow people to pre-record their interview shows, and those on a Mac seem to have it a bit tough to use Ogg right now).
We're on a bit of a prostletyzing mission, but we would prefer to do it in a way that's comfortable for everyone. The cool thing is that we have over 80 show hosts who come into our station, and use our Ubuntu-based system, and we've not had one complaint thus far.
Hopefully in the next couple of months we'll be able to get to be "truly" Free software based.
re: radio
"We need to be able to stream our content and not have it available for download."
That's technically impossible with digital technology as such. As long as you make a copy of those bits and bytes you call music and transfer it to another computer over a network, one can always make a copy of that data stream and save it on the disk.
The approach of using a flash-based web application and a non-free data format is naive. You assume that this forms any kind of protection from making illegitimate copies, but it doesn't, it just makes it a wee bit more difficult. A program can always eavesdrop into the data stream at any point between the data arriving at the client's computer over the network and the data stream being converted into analogue audio signals in the client computer's sound card.
One of the explicit design goals, and it hottest selling arguments, of digital technology is that making identical copies can be done with virtually no effort. Copy protection for digital data is an oxymoron, it simply cannot be done in the long run.
Of course that doesn't save you from the licensing trouble with your music. The licensor might be happy enough with the fact that your choice of software and audio format makes it somewhat more difficult to save a copy of the streamed music to disk. The licensor is probably a wee bit naive about the technical details, as well.
There are a couple of approaches you can follow:
- Do not use non-free music, at all. Only use music you can legally stream over the internet.
- Blank out non-free music when it's on the air, so that the FM radio signal has it but not the digital audio stream you make available to the internet.
- Add a digital watermark to the audio stream. While this won't protect you from making copies you might be able to trace the person who spreads illegitimate copies. Those watermarks might be spotted and removed before the copy gets distributed, though.
- Follow my argument about the fallacy of digital copy protection and use free software and free formats regardless. If the licensor allows you to use mp3 and whatnot, it doesn't make a technical difference if you moved to vorbis and free streaming software. Either ways, the client's always able to make a copy.
FOSS on the radio airwaves
Hi KRUU,
I would encourage you to contact the tech people at KPFA. They are a part of the independent, 5 station non-profit Pacifica network, which I was on the national board of directors from 2000-3. They run an ogg stream at http://aud1.kpfa.org:8090/kpfa.ogg. I would pick their brains as much as possible on the technical issues of streaming, etc.
As for the downloading issue, you can't prevent that. If it can get to your ears (or eyes) it can be recorded. Remember recording songs off the radio with your cassette player? R U that old ;-)
I would say just set your operating standards to require the use of ogg files for your hosts. If they are producing pre-recorded shows there are free tools (such as Audacity) that run on Linux and Windows they can use.
I would also suggest that you could require/suggest people use open music, eg that released under the Creative Commons license. (They have an article on KRUU on their website there.) There is a growing repository of music released under this license. There is also a growing list of music released as ogg files.
You can also require people who have wmv files convert them to flac (Free Lossles Audio Codec) files, which will be smaller, but still preserve the full audio fidelity of the original file.
As for mp3, etc, well, just use them if there are really no alternatives. Whatever legal issues you think you have to deal with you have to deal with anyway. It's the content that may have some restrictions on it, not the file format.
The key thing is to set standards, and explain to the community and hosts the rationale of the whats and whys, and provide the tools and resources so that people can easily comply with the standards. Education is they key here. I would assume you are already providing training to people on the various aspects of radio show production, so incorporate these aspects into it.
Finally, I would suggest you check out Campcaster, if you aren't aware of it. This could greatly facilitate people not having to physically come to your studios to deliver their audio content, and would allow you to train a bevy of people who could operate the station 24/7.
As Yoda said, use the FOSS Luke, use the FOSS...
Thanks for the info
[this post is mainly for your information, and does not need to be published]
Hi Jabari,
Thanks much for the info. I'll be sure to contact KPFK. We've been evaluating Campcaster for some time now, and teh latest version has a lot of promise for us. However, we actually want people to physically be at the station for their shows - it's a totally different feeling to be in the broadcast booth, live on the air, than to pre-record. It has worked out for us quite well, and we are currently running a 24/7 operation.
Over the next few weeks we'll be working on updating many of our processes (as we stabilize). So I suspect things like Ogg streaming and downloading will start becoming more visible.
BTW, on the CC-music note. You may have seen the addendum to Mike Linksvayer's note at creativecommons.org. KRUU currently has a program called Open Source Music which plays only creative-commons licensed tracks for an hour every day. And we're expanding the use of that music, to where DJs are now playing CC music during their shows.
If you are interested in how we progress with these philosophies (and it's a huge educational campaign for us), please send a note to info at kruufm.com and I'll keep you updated.
May the FOSS be with you :-)
They all do it !!
Even RMS, Richard Stallman, the Oricle of FSF, he used a commercail operating system, (UNIX), to develop GCC. !!!
The very fact that FOSS is licenced under the GPL shows that FREEDOM is not the prime goal of FSS, or FOSS or GNU+Linux.
IF TRUE feedom was the goal, then FSF would be in the Public Domain.
and there would be NO thought of changing the GPL to further restrict the freedoms of users and potential users of "FREE Software".
They want freedom and full control as well,
It is very funny to see people who do not understand the difference between GPL & Public domain & want to comment.
Can you please stop being anonymous?
They don't care about freedom
These people may know about freedom (for the user) but chances are, they don't care about it. These sorts of people have bought into the ideals of Open Source and like the idea of free-beer software development while still remaining to the idea that subjugating people through software is acceptable. This is the sort of thing that Open Source is about - all the technical benefits of Free Software without regard to the idealism. While this might be fine for people whose objective is a better software application, this line of thinking will eventually lead to the loss of freedom for freedom will be taken away when the user doesn't value freedom.
It can be difficult to be consistent.
Perhaps a little easier if your sole concern is free software.
For instance, on this page I see:
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This blog entry is (C) Copyright, Jabari Zakiya, 2004-2006. Unless a different license is specified in the entry's body, the following license applies: "Verbatim copying and distribution of this entire article is permitted in any medium without royalty provided this notice is preserved and appropriate attribution information (author, original site, original URL) is included". ]
You could have this under a CC BY or BY-SA license or the GFDL.
And the stations page had this license:
If you put the same sort of expectations on text as on code, neither would be considered Free.
The again, I see from a post here that the stasion is going to be playing things which are also not free.
It can be tough even if you really want to.
If we do care, we can at least try to do our best though. And hopefully improve with time.
all the best,
It can be difficult to be consistent.
Oops, made a mistake there.
This is the license that appears on the stations web site:
This one:
Was on the article here:
all the best,
Ideological Purity
This annoys the hell out of me. A company can do everything they can to support and promote open source, but one wrong move in the eyes of the religious advocates and they are the devils spawn. For example, Novell make a decision to make a deal with Microsoft and suddenly all the work they have done with Linux is void?
Now, I'm not saying I agree with their decision, or that as individuals we should continue to buy their product if we think they made a mistake. However, the self rightous indignation shown has not helped Novell understand. In fact I think that other companies see that pleasing the open source community is far too hard. Similarly in thise case a company with probably limited resource took the most cost effective way to hold a seminar.
Why do we like bashing companies who are doing a honest job of promoting open source? The target for the seminar was not open source people anyway. Sure, it would have been better to have a W3C compliant system, but to question a companies commitment to open source over an issue like this shows a disturbing extremeist attitude to advocacy.
Ideological purity
"Why do we like bashing companies who are doing a honest job of promoting open source? The target for the seminar was not open source people anyway. Sure, it would have been better to have a W3C compliant system, but to question a companies commitment to open source over an issue like this shows a disturbing extremeist attitude to advocacy."
1)None of my comments denegrated Trixbox as a project, or Fonality as a company. I factually reported on a decision they made that I have a problem with.
2)The target of the seminar was the Trixbox 2.0 software, which is touted to be open source. The major selling point (financially and philosophically) of Trixbox/Asterisk is its open source heritage allows it to be communally developed to include all kinds of features you'd pay through the nose to get from commercial software, its freely adaptable, and its available for anyone to use for free. To say "the target for the seminar was not open source people anyway" shows an ignorance of the user community Trixbox is marketed to, especially since its designed to run on Linux.
3)Trixbox could have easily used a company who could have presented that webinar to everyone, and not denied people using Linux systems from viewing it. And that was the focal point of my article. You have a fake, and only expedient, commitment to FOSS if you don't embrace it in as many areas of use as you can viably do. What Trixbox did was a glaring non-commitment to FOSS, IMHO. And I emailed them my concerns on this issue before writing this article, because I think they make a good product.
We have an obligation to constructively point out things we take issue with in order to make things better. Hopefully, Trixbox will produce their future webinars so that people using the operating system they base their software on will be able to view their webinars with.
rubyonrails.org is written in PHP
rubyonrails.org is written in php.
Funny, huh?
Nice article.
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1. There are a lot of FOSS programs for Windows that are not available for Linux - it's always jarring to see, but I suppose some programmers like the idea of freedom without actually having the time to learn to program in Linux.
2. The current episode of the Ubuntu podcast is only available in MP3, but that's only because we've got an unresolved issue with the server that holds the Oggs (and the MP3 server won't accept Ogg files).
3. The ultimate example of "Faking the FOSS" is Apple. Besides not letting anybody look at their bug trackers for their open-source projects, the "source code" for the Darwin operating system won't build or run without linking to closed-source binaries! (and for a while, Apple actually closed the source code for the x86 version too).

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I hope that part 3 is where you travel into the future, then travel back in time to the present to report that our safety play is much improved over 2009.
this may be of some local interest
We were talking about the deep safety position in GERG's 3-3-5-ish defense seen in brief previews (e.g. Ohio State, to much rejoicing) last season. We also did a recap of UFR scoring for safeties of Michigan past (here's a spreadsheet). The reason we're talking about this is because Michigan has had some pretty bad play(ers?) from/at that position, and because according to 3-3-5 experts, for the defense to be good, the deep safety should be a total motherfucking
In Part II you were expecting a rundown of candidates for 2010, and how they might stack up against the guys of years past. This is still half-written, and coming. But we hit a snag, and now it's a three-parter.
The people you can blame for this are as follows:
What Sharik did was this and this (scroll down to his comments, which before Brian decided to give the comments section a Weis-ian strategic advantage, I could link to directly). Because of these people, I had to a.) Spend a lot of time on press call-ins, b.) Do an awful lot of research on mustaches, c.) Re-write an entire section that had already been completed, d.) Fight a brutal amphibious war against an Incan-British alliance for global domination, and e.) Completely re-imagine my metrics for determining what is needed from the Free Safety in Michigan's defense.
What I came up with: Michigan in 2006 had a good defense. This was mostly due to good players. But the scheme wasn't all that different from what we think GERG is gonna bust out in 2010:
You are probably looking at this alignment right now (look how far off Hall is playing up top) and having flashbacks of Donovan Warren sitting deep in what we called last year's failed 3-3-5 experiments. There's a good reason for that: I believe this is the same defense.
Jamison (bottom of the line) is in a hand-down version of Roh's spot; Harrison at top, the nominal "nickel" has come up on the line to blitz, not too different from Steve Brown's spot last year; Dave Harris is in the middle; Prescott Burgess (=Mouton) is set up in the flat near the bottom. Both Trent (bottom) and Hall (top) are playing 9 yards off the line. Jamar Adams (=Kovacs) is on the 1st down marker.
Just slightly out of the picture, sitting deep and probably reading Infinite Jest, because defending the deep ball when Branch and Woodley are tearing things up is useless, is Brandent Englemon.
You won't see either make a play here. On this particular play, Penn State saw the loose coverage, changed up whatever they were going to run (given the play until then, likely a run left), and sent a quick toss to the top wideout. Leon Hall came up to make a fantastic play and keep it to 2 yards.
What I want you to see is Jamar Adams, the safety behind Hall at the top of this play. With the "nickel back" Harrison blitzing, Adams came down into the box to act as another linebacker. As it turned out, he was help if Hall can't make this play, probably running Derrick Williams out of bounds after a 5- or 6-yard gain.
Now, this looks like a pass defense, but had Penn State run into it, there was paper all over the place. Ultimately, eight (!) players were in the box, with a surprise blitz coming from Harris, a not-surprising blitz from Harrison, and either Adams or Burgess busting in faster than a receiver could block them. Behind them, Englemon was in centerfield, ready to come up.
Michigan ran a similar defense last year against Penn State:
And we saw some of this too against Michigan State and Ohio State.
The way I think I can identify this is because we get the same exact reaction from Brian in UFRs and recaps each time: to paraphrase, "WTF [Star Cornerback] is playing way off the line here!"
My guess is it was Ron English's "pretty-bad-unless-you-have-Leon-Hall-to-bail-out-your-ass," and GERG's "what the hell do I do with crap safeties?" attempts at doing what Bud Foster at Virginia Tech does much better:
HT: (who'd you think?) Chris Brown of Smart Football.
This was the subject of a since-mostly unremarked article on MGoBlog suggesting that Michigan is going to V-Tech's base defense. Essentially, it's VT's old 4-4 deal with a linebacker exchanged for a safety because spread defenses were murder on it. In Brown's description:
What makes Tech's "quarters" coverage particularly interesting is that they have not actually changed their old "G" front, they have merely removed one guy from the box and lined him up at safety without changing his aggressive responsibilities against the run.
Below is how Virginia Tech lined up against Kansas's spread in the 2008 Orange Bowl. … The Hokies lined up in their base quarters look from the "G," merely moving the former "Rover" (circled) to safety, while moving the "Whip" outside, over Kansas' slot receiver; this formation gives the offense very little information, and in fact, with Jayhawks' motioning an extra blocker into the backfield for a run to the left, is inviting for a run, with six blockers in the box against six defenders:
I recommend the entire article (in case three links weren't a clue).
I leave it to the football geniuses around here to give you more and better information as to how this applies to Michigan. The salient point for the free safety is the job description is a bit different than the "Centerfielder" in a base Cover-1 or Cover-3 that I supposed we were running when I started this.
Herein lies the hope. Going for a fourth link to this brilliant article:
The free-safety then was free to play a "robber" technique -- that is, on pass plays, he read the quarterback's eyes and broke on intermediate routes, but on runs, where he truly became valuable, he was an incredible ninth run-stuffer in the box.
It's a Cover 4 defense made to stop the run. Blitzes come from all directions, positions are hybridized so attacks can come from anywhere, and the primary defense against the pass is to look like you're in pass defense pre-snap, and to not give the QB much time to throw post-snap.
For our purposes, this means the Free Safety doesn't have to be a Ryan Mundy (at West Virginia, people with long memories) with super speed (that's your cornerback). His job is to back up a safety/linebacker-type object in man, and if anything gets by the Mack linebacker, clean up the run (or if you're Brandent Englemon, bring a book).
Below is as comprehensive a UFR Chart? Chart! as I can produce on Safety Play in the UFR era:
The blue line is the positives, so if the safety in question did nothing remarkable whatsoever, that will be at zero.
Years in brief:
2005 (average: 0): Safety Armageddon began in '05 and lasted through 2006. Fortunately, with the notable of 4th quarters in 2005, the safeties during this time had little work to do, good or bad. Willis Barringer, Jamar Adams (who later settled at box safety) and Brandon Harrison all got time deep. That 0 during a position-hating deity strike is the 2nd best year in recent history at deep safety is scary, but this may say less about the safety play, and more about Brian working the kinks out of the UFR scoring system.
2006 (average: –0.3): The one negative thing about the 2006 defense was the play at safety, mostly because Mundy and his great talent wouldn't cover anything. It was bad enough to be a soft spot, but not so bad that the great front 7 and CB play couldn't make up for it until Michigan met Ohio State-/USC-level passing attacks.
2007 (average: 1.1): After The Horror, Jamar Adams moved to free safety (listed as SS but I watched videos and he was the deep man in lots of 3-3-5s), and "keep me off your damn chart you hippie" Brandent Englemon of the 1/0/1 URFs took over the box safety spot. Adams was horrific against Oregon but settled in and provided the best FS play of the period.
2008 (average: –1): The year of Stevie Brown. When he was good, e.g. the Minnesota game, he was good. But when he was bad, Stevie was "lose MSU game all by himself" bad.
2009 (average: –3) Overall the worst safety play of the period. When Woolfolk was deep, he was tested seldom and usually finished an 'eh' 0/2/-2 or something while QBs made cornerbacks not named Warren their bitches. The bottom dropped out when Michael Williams was tried deep, and the meat of the season featured huge ugly numbers against an overmatched Kovacs until Woolfolk returned late.
In a nutshell:
The best seasons of average play from each guy at deep safety:
2009 looks pretty fucking bad now, doesn't it? I think Brian was a bit ruthless with Woolfolk for missed tackles that weren't TDs, the effect of Woolfolk is not shown. Also, this isn't a "who's the best player" list since a lot of the guys at the bottom put in their bad play as underclassmen, and many are small samples against varied competition levels (e.g. lots of strong numbers versus Northwestern). It is only an average of their UFR'ed contributions while at free safety.
This seals it.
We have a defensive set that is built to involve the safeties, more often than not, in run coverage, while the cornerbacks either play Cover-2 or man-up on the edges. Our free safety, our Hero, then, is a responsible guy who can tackle, lay a mean hit, and has enough speed to get there. Lanky cornerback-type he is not. Tiny Charles Drake-type object he is not.
And even historically, it has been just that type of player who has excelled at not drawing the ire of those paying close attention.
A safety with some linebackerish qualities: this might actually work.
These guys.
Cameron 'Dark Side' Gordon
Vladimir 'The Impaler' Emilien
'Marvelous' Marvin Robinson
I swear.
I hope that part 3 is where you travel into the future, then travel back in time to the present to report that our safety play is much improved over 2009.
Something has got to be done about your recruits!"
/Christoper Lloyd
I really like the 3 candidates. I have much hope for meaningful improvement in 2010.
But Joseph Campbell is one of my favorite authors, and "The Hero with a Thousand Faces" is my favorite books by Campbell. And I must quote from the book to make sure everyone understands how awesome your use of this theme is for the present season.
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"A hero ventures forth from the world of common day into a region of supernatural wonder: fabulous forces are there encountered and a decisive victory is won: the hero comes back from this mysterious adventure with the power to bestow boons on his fellow man."
But for anyone thinking that Misopogon is emphasizing one player at the expense of the team, my reply is "read up on the hero myth". and more quoting,
" the hero must face tasks and trials (a road of trials), and may have to face these trials alone, or may have assistance. At its most intense, the hero must survive a severe challenge, often with help earned along the journey."
I think it's clear from Misopogon's other post, worrying far too much about the scaring away of 5 stars, that our hero this year will not be the Achilles dipped by his heal sort, but more the heady Odysseus sort, with frequent help from favoring gods. Who better to help than Thor and Hulk-Smash?
So my guess as to the hero (now this is my opinion, not what I'm guessing is Misopogon's opinion) will be Cam Gordon. With upper classman level wisdom, and insight as a former offensive player, he has the heady skills required of the archetype. But most importantly as a former offensive player he fits this last quote best.
"The hero starts in the ordinary world, and receives a call to enter an unusual world of strange powers and events (a call to adventure)."
to the adventure of the Defense, land of interceptions and crushing open field tackles.
And for those of you who find Joseph Campbell a difficult read, just go to this link where they show you how Star Wars and the Matrix followed this mythical formula.
link 2 or "Mythology for Blondes"
good work sir, and thank you for fixing the title.
good work indeed.
The hero is at first reluctant.
He makes a journey into water...
He makes a journey into darkness....
is that the corners need to be fast enough to play deep halves, and we're not sure the non-woolfolk guy will be able to do that.
I'm curious how one distinguishes between a 3-3-5 and a 4-3-4 when charting a given play like the penn state '06 example above--is it just a matter of personnel?
just a matter of personnel
for the great work and also because this actually makes me feel quite a bit better about the safeties.
Steve, I always truly appreciate your input when it comes to x's and o's, although I always end up a little (more) concerned with our personnel than I was before (which was a decent amount anyway). But I'd be very interested to know. Looking at our guys, and taking the whole defensive roster into account (rotational players, backups, whatever), what base front and base coverage/s etc. would YOU recommend this team runs? I really respect your opinion as an expert on things like this, and I don't know that I've ever seen you actually post what you think would be the best fit for this team.
I actually think the coaches have a good idea, especially GERG.
Thanks Steve, I appreciate the thoughts.
Steve....arghhh....dammit...thanks....but arggghh.
I spend a week reading Smart Football archives trying to figure out what you're talking about, come across something that sounds exactly like what GERG has been talking about, find a front page article suggesting this is exactly what he's doing, then write a diary and you're like "Wrong wrong wrong."
I'm going to take a stab at maybe being right, and if you tell me I am nuts for pound, I am going back to the drawing board.
What I'm talking about is not a base Cover-4 defense, actually, but a mean version of quarters, where the cornerbacks, not the safeties, are the ones doing a ludicrous amount of running around. Barring something amazing like Cullen Christian being a Ty Law/Charles Woodson type who can start in bump then make it to a deep cover 2 zone, the corners generally play off and end up, base-wise, in a Cover 2. Pre-snap, Gordon and Kovacs look like they're in Cover 4, but each play one comes up to fill in for a blitzing linebacker, and the other is in centerfield, hawking the play.
I think that sounds kind of like what you're describing.
Next time, I am simply stealing your brain.
...and link this thread as my authorization for him to give you my email address. If you'd like to meet, I'd be interested.
(I'm also on linkedin.)
i'd really like to see some first principles laid down, or something.
Am I crazy for thinking our potential defensive schemes seem awfully similar to the 4-2-5 playbook in the NCAA series? It's a single high safety scheme and has two box safeties playing the flats from 9 techniques. Really. it's a 3-3-5 but Roh has his hand down. Is that more or less what VT runs? Or is that closer to what TCU does?
It is very close to TCU's 4-2-5. I wouldn't call them 9-techniques b/c that means outside shoulder of the TE, and no one's getting to the flat from there.
Is there a term for the area that the Box safeties occupy in TCU's 4-2-5?
Defenders lined up in that area are known as "overhang" players.
I know everyone hit the maize n blue panic button when we heard GERG mention "3-3-5" and "new terminology" but I think the 4-2-5 from NCAA is actually closer to what we will be running... I can only pray the NCAA series allows for playbook customization to include the ability to "stand up" your Craig Rohs and increase speed and decrease something stupid. I, being the type of shameless nerd that revel in said nerdiness, would squeal with joy over this type of advancement.... Return from long-straying sidebar: You're not crazy. TCU with slightly different roles for the Spur/Bandit/DeathRoh
Huh? How does a lineman play "post," which is, at least when I played football, a route where a wide receiver runs 8-12 yards straight sprint, then breaks toward the middle of the field at a 45 degree angle...or, if it's a "skinny" post, it's more of a 60 degree (or 30 degree, depending where you're measuring as 0) angle.... Impossible for a lineman to backpedal fast enough to make this happen, unless you put a cornerback at DT/DE, and even then, would be very difficult. And asinine. Perhaps you can explain what you mean?
great diary. this stuff definitely keeps me going during the waning days of the off season.
i dont suppose you have one in the works for the offensive side, do you?


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To the editor: In the April 24 edition of the Times-News, conservative columnist Cal Thomas asked, How many more of us must be killed? He enumerates the hundreds of thousands of people working on homeland security, and he is outraged that four people were killed in an attack on Boston. He calls for a re-examination of immigration policy and issues a call for finding [all] the terrorist sleeper cells in America.
And yet, where was his outrage at the senseless slaughter of 26 innocent victims in Newtown, Conn.? What he said, in web postings on Dec. 18 and April 13, was, Guns can never be completely outlawed and human nature cant be changed by politicians, and More laws would not keep those who would use guns to kill from getting one or finding other means to kill.
From 1969-2009, there were not quite 5,600 terrorist-related deaths in the U.S., according to the Heritage Foundation. In 2011 alone, there were more than 30,000 gun-related deaths, due to murder, suicide and accidents, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control).
Why does he think laws and restrictions will work to reduce terrorist-related deaths, but will not work to reduce senseless gun deaths? It just doesnt make sense.
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To the editor: Is it only me? Doesnt what we are being told every day strike anyone else as odd?
In 2007, the federal budget was around $2.7 trillion, and we could have White House tours, air traffic controllers and two-front wars with a $200 billion deficit. Now, however, in 2013, with around a $3.6 trillion budget, $900 billion in borrowing at rock-bottom interest rates and health cost savings from the Affordable Care Act, we cant pay for any of that.
What am I missing? It cant be inflation, as we are continuously told it is next to nothing. Why then are we told we have no spending problems or federal management problems, only taxing shortfall problems?
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Men and women who find themselves in jail without a lot of hope deserve better. They are not crazy. They are not pathological misfits, and their brains have been damaged through no fault of their own. Genetic components are often present as well.
Legislators and people in the criminal justice system need educating concerning the desperate need for mental health reform. This is a sad statement about people in power who could effect changes in key policies.
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We promised we wouldn't start talking about diets again until after the new year, but we've got to start somewhere, and all signs point to Paleo. According to Google's annual trend report, the no-carb, meat-heavy lifestyle was the most-searched diet of 2013. Honestly, we think we know why -- unlike juice cleanses, or the perplexing Dukan diet that was all the rage earlier this year, eating Paleo sounds like something we could actually maintain without starving to death, or worse, sacrificing our social lives.
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A very interesting article in the Guardian which just about confirms all our suspicions.
GFH are potless and rightly blaming KB for bleeding the club dry and investing what future revenues we had in persuing his dream of building another Chelsea complex, as well as syphoning off whatever he could into his own coffers.. If the moron had failed at Chelsea he must have realised he was going to fail in Leeds as well.
It would appear there is no mega money coming from the middle east and if they haven't yet been able to persuade the wealthy individuals out there to invest I can only see another takeover occuring soon and we will still be in no mans land for years to come.
Whether we like it or not this game is now almost entirely based on how many mega millions your owners have.
I also think the righting could be on the wall for MU in the future, as when Fergie goes and if they can not keep up their prominence in the Champions league the Glazers will not invest what will be needed. The same could be said at Arsenal, and that will leave Chelsea and Man City fighting for the title unless more mega money comes in.
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Right now, OpenTable is more or less an app for reserving a table at a restaurant. It does offer some recommendations and has a review system built in, but it doesn't dive as deep as an app like Yelp.
That will change with the addition of Foodspotting. In plain English: Foodspotting uses photos of dishes — food porn, basically — to entice users to go visit a restaurant. There are whole websites and verticals devoted to this purpose, not to mention the number of Instagram photos about food. To see the kind of effect they're seeking, check out the sample screenshot to the right showing a succulent cheeseburger from Shake Shack in New York.
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Richard B. Johnston Jr., MD, who led the National Jewish Department of Pediatrics from 1977 to 1986, then returned in 2004 as Executive Vice President of Academic Affairs, has won the 2008 John Howland Medal, the highest award given in academic pediatrics. The award honors those who have contributed to the study of children and their diseases, the prevention of illness, the promotion of health in childhood, and the promotion of pediatric education and research.
Between his two stints at National Jewish, Dr. Johnston served as the Medical Director of the March of Dimes Birth Defects Foundation and as Physician-in-Chief at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia and Chairman of Pediatrics at the University of Pennsylvania. He also served as the Chief of the Immunology Section in the Department of Pediatrics at Yale School of Medicine. He has been President of the Society for Pediatric Research, the American Pediatric Society, and the Board of the International Pediatric Research Foundation. Dr. Johnston is a member of the Institute of Medicine (IOM), and was a co-author of an influential IOM report that found no connection between vaccines and autism.
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Parenthood: Put Yourself Out There
Parenthood is a one-hour drama that follows the trials and tribulations of the very large, very colorful and imperfect Braverman family. Jason Katims, the show's Executive Producer, has been honored by Autism Speaks. Parenthood airs Tuesday night on NBC at 10/9c.
In this episode of Parenthood, Max, who has Asperger's Syndrome, did not get invited to a classmate's birthday party. Max is under the impression that he isn't invited because Emily, his classmate, doesn't like him. Kristina and Adam are upset and hurt to learn that their son is being excluded.
Kristina confronts Emily's mom and is surprised to hear that it was a deliberate choice not to invite Max. Emily's parents decided that because of all of her struggles, she should be able to have her birthday be a special day, just as she wants it. Kristina can't handle the reasoning and speaks to Emily. Kristina learns that Emily thinks Max is a sore loser, when playing games.
After another run-in with Emily's mom, Kristina pleads for a play date so that the children can work out their issues. Kristina says that she is Max's biggest supporter and Andie agrees with those sentiments. Bother mothers realize that need to work together to support their Aspie children.
For a full synopsis of the episode and the "Experts Speak" section, visit the NBC website.
How much, is too much parental involvement? Have you ever been in Kristina's situation? How did you handle it? What are some constructive ways you advocate for your child?
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November 17, 2010 at 3:16 pm
As the mother of a 7 year old with Aspergers, I can understand Kristina feeling hurt by Max being excluded from the party. However, I can also understand the other mother's point of view. I think Kristina went a little overboard with her "pushiness". I think asking for a playdate to work on the issues between the kids was fine, but then she said "if it works out can he still come to the party?". That was a little over the top. I love this show-I think the depiction of Aspergers is realistic. However, not everyone has the means for a private school and a 30 hour a week behavioral aide. I think the show should address some of the financial issues related to having a child on the spectrum (i.e. paying for private therapy).
November 23, 2010 at 8:04 am
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"However, not everyone has the means for a private school and a 30 hour a week behavioral aide. I think the show should address some of the financial issues related to having a child on the spectrum (i.e. paying for private therapy)."
I TOTALLY agree! That has been my only complaint with the show that I otherwise LOVE! My husband and I DVR the program and watch it together on Thursday nights and for some reason, our DVR cut if off with about 10 or 15 minutes left to go. I was SO EAGER to watch the playdate because our son wrestles with losing at games as well. Well, watching it (online together) – I had to giggle. It was sweet but REALLY? Yeah, I could try that! I'll have my private behavioralist sit in the room and work on the issues with my son and his friend while I sit in the other room with the other mom and drink wine and eat sushi! Yeah – that could happen!
November 17, 2010 at 10:26 pm
i have a 10 year old daughter with aspergers. she doesnt get invited to many parties, although she has a lot of 'friends'(she thinks of them as friends. not sure what they think). recently she was invited to a party but i have a feeling it was because she got upset when the invites were handed out and she didn't get one. i think it was a sympathy invite. oh well she had a good time at the party and she doesn't understand that she wasn't meant to be invited in the first place. i only figured out the situation when i took her to the party and the mum was a little surprised to see her there.
November 18, 2010 at 12:56 pm
I have a 10 year-old son with Asperger's who, like Max, is often excluded when it comes to play-date or party invitations. When he was younger, this didn't bother him but as he has gotten older, he is more aware of being left out. I work with him to help build specific social skills (we can't afford a 30 hour-a-week aide either!), and then plan play-dates to help exercise those skills. Doing this over the summer helped build successes and confidence – not to mention close friendships that have helped him ease back into the school year. My son is blessed with Asperger's and we feel fortunate to be on this journey with him!
November 24, 2010 at 12:29 am
I also agree that Kristina did go a little too far with confronting the girl's mother. However, she did end up learning about Max's social challenges directly from one of his peers which is hard to hear, but might end up reinforcing the need for his therapy to address winning and losing if she had not realized that before. Sometimes, I wonder if I'm not taking enough risks or putting myself out there enough on my child's behalf to help others understand him, and him feel less misunderstood. So, there's part of me that admires her for what she did. Of course, it may not always turn out as perfectly as it was portrayed. Not only that the other mom would actually be open to it (the playdate facilitated by my child's behavioral therapist), but that the actual social experience went off without Max having a tough time with the possibility of him losing. That is another point made here that I also agree with. I love the show and that this child and his family's struggles are portrayed regularly. I do also agree that things could be portrayed a little more realistically. I'm always feeling like they'll only go so far. If they did, it would be a great way of promoting awareness not only of the challenges, but of they many gifts the child has showing people and typical peers noticing his strengths and talents,modeling what peer acceptance looks like ( not only for the peers, but for their parents as well). They have a big audience to show people what it can look like to see someone for their talents & gifts, asking questions of his parents so that they can explain Autism to their children. I'd personally like to see an episode where Max is doing so well that his private school is suggesting that he return to his home school district and show the IEP meeting. In this meeting, there are IEP team, they'd have the one's that are open and show their commitment to thoughtful inclusion. Bu also have one or two IEP team members that don't get autism, and don't feel that he should be there. Show the IEP team meeting! Again by using the show to model what that could look like, what the teachers were willing to do to make sure that Max's sensory needs are being met, and that he truly is welcome.
November 30, 2010 at 11:05 pm
I enjoyed the episode and wish I could be as ballsy as Christina was. I think I do push a little but I will strive to push more since seeing this episode. I mean come on ladies, we are our childs advocate, and I don't know about you, but I want to make sure he gets to experience all of lifes ups and downs and joys and sorrows that all the other "normal" kids get to. We talk openly about his aspergers and we also have ADHD, so lots of excitement and social challenges in our house….LOL. But we just roll with it and if we can get past him getting frustrated and losing it at school, I will be in heaven.
Do any of your kids get frustrated when learning new things in school (math, etc.)? And if so, how have you handled it? I am fortunate to be a stay at home mom and work part time at his mainstream school, so I can be there to defuse him quickly but if I couldn't, what can I teach the school to do?
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The U.S. military's newest and most sophisticated maritime patrol aircraft, the P-8A Poseidon, joined the expanded search for missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 on Saturday. The plane has a range of powerful sensors for scanning the ocean's surface at a range of 50 miles or more, but it is searching a vast expanse of water that extends far beyond that.
The Wall Street Journal was on board P-8A, dubbed Rescue 74, on Sunday to observe the plane's second mission over the Bay of Bengal.
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11:28 a.m. – Rescue 74 and her nine-man crew take off from Subang airbase near Kuala Lumpur. The plane swings northwest toward its designated search area 900 miles away, just north of the Andaman and Nicobar Islands. They've received intelligence of a possible "debris field" in the area.
The P-8A cruises to its destination at high altitude to economize on fuel. Above the clouds it cannot search effectively en route. The crew, all wearing green flight suits emblazoned with the insignia of Patrol Squadron 16, their U.S. Navy unit, makes its preparations.
Lieutenant Kyle Ataturk – one of three pilots who fly the plane in two-man rotations – has a chart of the search area spread out across the plane's control panel.
The crew members, based in Jacksonville, Florida, and currently on a seven-month deployment to Okinawa, Japan, have no experience navigating the area they now find themselves in over the southern Indian Ocean. Thus, they're relying on charts to complement electronic navigation.
1:37 p.m. – We arrive on site, after descending from 29,500 feet to around 1,400 feet. At that point any debris that would exist would be visible to the naked eye. The initial search area is a 60 by 60 mile square north of the Andaman and Nicobar Islands and southwest of Burma.
The team deploys the aircraft's camera pod – which contains sensitive optical and infra-red cameras. Five operators now man consoles on the P-8A's port side, scanning the surface of the sea below. Two spotters on either side of the plane search the water visually with the naked eye, using binoculars to look more closely at any objects of interest.
Petty Officer Mike Burnett walks aft and loads one of the planes' sonar buoys into launcher number 1 – one of three launch systems for the 96 buoys stored in meter-long plastic tubes on racks lining both sides of the plane's main aisle. They are used as markers. Then there is a thud and a whoosh as the buoy is fired into the sea below.
2:00 p.m. – Rescue 74 methodically searches the designated 3,600 square mile patch of the Bay of Bengal in eight parallel lines. Hope and anticipation gradually slides into tedium, as the monotony of the exercise becomes fully apparent. On the monitors, the sea endlessly zips past liked a looped tape. The radar scope picks up a radar track to the west. Petty Officer Burnett clicks on the trace and the camera swivels to identify it: It's only a small fishing boat.
3:53 p.m. – The crew comes up empty handed after completing its sweep of the vast area. By now, more than two hours into the search, the sonar buoy they released earlier has revealed that the ocean current is moving southeast, so they decide to set up a new search area 50 miles in that direction.
The plane descends even further, to 1,000 feet, to give the crew an even clearer view of the ocean's surface.
They decide to do so, "after we saw our own orange buoy" – which is about the size of a shoebox – "and realized how tiny it looked," said Lt. Ataturk.
Pursuing a new radar track, Rescue 74 loops around to the north of the Andaman Islands before reaching the new search area to the islands' east. Again, the aircraft assumes its systematic search pattern, turning backwards and forwards, to ensure that nothing is overlooked.
Hands rub tired eyes as the system operators struggle to stay focused. The search is, above all, a test of mental stamina and concentration. Rescue 74 has maintained a flying speed of 280 knots throughout, and the sea sweeps past quickly below, making it hard to focus on any single point.
6:11 p.m. – After four and a half hours of searching, Rescue 74 accelerates away and heads home, as fuel starts to run low.
The crew is convinced it has not missed anything in the area it searched.
"We do our job and hope for the best," shrugged Petty Officer Robert Pillars. "If we can say that we have now searched that area, that's better than nothing."
Another U.S. Navy patrol aircraft relieved the team Monday. Rescue 74 will rejoin the search Tuesday. In the search for Flight 370, most of the Indian Ocean has yet to be explored.


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- The shop, which sells donated books and CDs, helps owners on benefits to pay for treatment for sick pets.
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A sweep of registered sex offenders in Assumption Parish this week led to a drug and weapons arrest, police said.
Michael Field Jr., 26, 437 Belle River Road, Pierre Part, was arrested Wednesday during a visit by Assumption Parish sheriff's deputies and Louisiana Probation & Parole agents.
Field had a gun, marijuana and drug paraphernalia, Sheriff Mike Waguespack said.
Field, one of 28 registered sex offenders living in Assumption Parish, has a 2008 conviction for indecent behavior with juveniles, the sheriff said.
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Rep. Bill Johnson, R-Marietta, will speak with students from 1 to 2 p.m. Nov. 4 at Harrison Career Center, 82500 Jewett Drive, Cadiz.
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