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Sunday, August 9, 2009
Mom's Potato Salad
What? YOUR mom's potato salad is better than mine? That's cuckoo talk. Next you'll be trying to tell me that her pot roast recipe is better than my mom's. Or her chicken soup. You may even go as far as trying to convince me that her chocolate chip cookie recipe is better than my mom's. It is at that point, my friend, when I shall have to call you a bold-faced liar!
(This recipe is for those of you whose mothers didn't make potato salad. Because if they did, you already have your own favorite recipe.)
Mom's Potato Salad
2 1/2-3 pounds redskin potatoes, peeled and cubed
6-7 hard boiled eggs, chopped
2 stalks of celery, finely diced
1/2 large sweet onion, finely diced
1 1/2 cups mayo (I use reduced-fat)
1 TBSP yellow mustard
1 TBSP white vinegar
2 TBSP sugar (I usually use Splenda)
salt and pepper
Boil peeled and cubed potatoes in moderately salted water for approximately 15 minutes, or until tender. Drain and cool. In large bowl place eggs, celery and onion. Add in cooled potatoes. Combine mayo, mustard, vinegar and sugar. Season with salt and pepper. Stir dressing into potato mixture. Refrigerate for several hours before serving.
*side note. I tried to make potato salad for years before finally discovering that redskin potatoes are the defining ingredient in this recipe. Mom's recipe just said "potatoes." Also, make sure that you use a sweet onion.
10 comments:
- Jen @ My Kitchen Addiction said...
Looks delicious! My hubby is a huge fan of my mom's potato salad, but I never make it right. She doesn't have a recipe, she just wings it each time (reminds me of someone I know... apple doesn't fall far from the tree), so I haven't been able to figure it out. I think I'll try yours next time. :)
- August 9, 2009 at 10:03 PM
- Mags said...
Jen, I'm fairly certain that behind infidelity and money matters, lack of a quality potato salad is the third leading cause of divorce. You get on that, and you get on that now!....lol
- August 9, 2009 at 10:36 PM
- Bob said...
Geeez Mags, I had no idea food plays such an important part in marriage. Im fibbing of course.lol.
Lynn learned my Mom's potato salad recipe and further improved upon it and everybody lived happily ever after, especially Bob, unless he happened to bring home a "bitter" onion from the supermarket.
Yellow onions are fairly easy to select, red onions, especially after peak season has passed can be extremely bitter and I've yet to master picking a sweet one in the off season.
- August 9, 2009 at 11:29 PM
- Mags said...
Bob: I know, it is difficult, isn' it. Outside the Vidalia onion, I'm not aware of any others specifically known for their sweetness. I just grab whatever the store is selling at the time that's labeled "sweet."
- August 10, 2009 at 1:02 PM
- stephchows said...
You have to have eggs in potato salad, job well done :D
- August 10, 2009 at 1:12 PM
- NaTy said...
can i just tell you how much i love your blog? A LOT! i want to make EVERY recipe you post.
erin @ glutenfreewithapurpose
- August 10, 2009 at 4:29 PM
- Mags said...
Steph: I agree completely. In fact, I sometimes describe my potato salad as egg salad with potatoes.
Erin: Thank you so much! Please come back soon.
- August 10, 2009 at 5:48 PM
Yours sounds delicious! Mine is very similar but I omit the celery (one food I cannot tolerate!) and I add a little sour cream and sometimes a little bell pepper.
Love your recipes!
- August 11, 2009 at 3:02 PM
- Mags said...
Anon: Thanks for commenting! And I think I might try to add a little sour cream next time. Sounds like a good addition!
- August 12, 2009 at 12:31 AM
I'm clueless when it comes to cooking lol. What color onion is a sweet one, please??
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The Tri-County Foster/Adoptive Parents Association will hold its first yard sale on Saturday, May 2, from 8 a.m. to 3 p.m. behind the First Baptist Church of Bronson, 460 S. Court St., Bronson.
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For information call 528-6100.
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Williston area resident Brack Barker will present a program on natural Florida for the Friends of the Williston Public Library on Thursday, April 16, 7 p.m. in the library.
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AARP Chapter 912 meets on the second Monday each month at 9:30 a.m. in the Holy Family Catholic Church Hall. The speaker at the April 13th meeting will be Slande Celeste. She will give an update on Nature Coast Hospital's 5,000-pound challenge. There will also be the annual appreciation awards presented to outstanding members of our local chapter.
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* Al-Anon, 7 p.m. Midway Plaza, 13451 N.E. Hwy 27 Alt.
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* Piecemakers, 9 a.m., Presbyterian Church.
Church of God
cook-off set
The second annual Bronson Church of God barbecue cook-off will be held Saturday, March 28, starting at 4:30 p.m. at the church. Chicken and pulled pork are $5 per plate each, and whole Boston butts are $20 each. For information call 486-4924.
Seven speakers
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Jones Temple Church of God in Christ will be having a seven-speaker program, Saturday, March 28, at 6:30 p.m. We will have seven speakers for 5-10 minutes each.
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Discussion in 'Writing' started by Inkstain, Jan 21, 2010.
1st person, 3rd person? What points of view resonate best in your works and why?
I prefer to read and write in 3rd person. When reading first person I always feel the text calls a little too much attention to itself. (If that makes any sense.) I just think 3rd person is a more natural way to tell a story.
On a related side note I tried to watch an old movie last night. "Lady in the Lake" based on the chandler novel. It was shot in the Point of View of Philip Marlow. I love old movies, but I could only stand about 20 minutes of this. It was too much. 1st person novels aren't the same, but it is a similar idea.
1st person is good for stream of consciousness narrative and can be used brilliantly (As I Lay Dying anyone?) but for sci fi and fantasy I'm not really aware of any writers who use 1st person from the top of my head.
As I Lay Dying is brilliant. Mmm Faulkner.
I find Bret Easton Ellis and Chick Palahniuk to both make good use of first person narratives. Their novels would not be the same without it.
Do both. Sherlock Holmes is written in the 1st person with Dr. Watson as the POV character but he tells of Mr. Holmes' adventure in the 3rd person. It is also the only work I know of that uses 1st person plural POV without putting a lampshade on it.
Roger Zelazny did good work with 1st person when writing his Amber chronicles. John Steakley uses it effectively with his John Crow character in the latter half of his novel, Armor. And of course, H.G. Wells was a fan of this narrative in several of his stories.
I prefer to read and write in third person. It is the most natural to me.
However, one book that used the first person extremely well was Le Guin's The Left Hand of Darkness because almost every chapter alternated between the two main characters' points of view (with some historical narrations thrown in).
I tend to write in third person, as it allows the reader to discover the character from a distance and make their own assertions, otherwise the story is compromised by the character's subjective perspective. I have always been against multiple perspectives. Generally, I see multiple perspectives as being strung together to tell a greater narrative. Often in these cases the story loses sight of character to focus more on a grand and intricate plot. What can I say? I guess I must be a purist of character driven narrative.
Alternating first person is often quite interesting. This format is essentially the same as exchange of letter format.
Otherwise, first person tucks us into the spell quite easily (remember Huck Finn?), but it limits us in a very important way: We can't pull a "meanwhile, back at the ranch" shift of time or place. Alternating viewpoint within first person solves that problem.
Third person has many, many gradations between full omniscient and third person tight focus. The British literary style (also quite popular in Canada) often uses a storyteller mode. It's often omniscient and often poetic. I relish the chance to read such books... but I'm quite aware of my own limitations. It is so difficult to maintain intimacy within that mode. Maybe some of the Brits on this board can divulge the secret.
American style usually calls upon a tightly focused third person narrative, non-omniscient, where even the "he said / she said" phrases use the actual vocabulary and vocal tics of the character with whom we are currently tight. Alternating viewpoint is easily done in this style; it involves no artifice beyond the change in voice from one character to the next.
As a reader, I have no preference, only that the story be well-written. If I recall correctly, Steakley's military sf Armor alternated first and third pov. Alternating povs can be used very effectively.
When I write, I tend to use third person, which is not pov, exactly. It's voice. The pov is omniscient, camera-eye, tight third (inside the characters head but in third person voice), first person which can be in one character's head or can be an outside narrator a la omniscient (I don't recall all the various names that have been used for some of these and there are many names for many of them). The pov is who's telling the story. The voice is how the pov is telling the story. And with voice comes tense.
I don't write first person voice much because it's hard for me to maintain the voice. I tend to slip into mine. I've done it twice. Once with a character I based on me, so her speech pattern matched mine. The second was with a character with an accent and odd inflections and idioms, so I could quickly see where I went awry and be able to quickly correct it. Third is easiest for me, and I like writing tight third pov which is almost like first person narration for me.
But if a writer is skilled he or she can make anything work. One of the most amazing books I've read is a short novel based on a historical incident: Stewart O'Nan's A Prayer for the Dying, written in second person present tense. I think the main character was the pov, but in a way, with second person, the reader is almost the pov.
Funny you should say that, the narration was told as journal entries. It gave perfect opportunities for character descriptions (of which there were plenty) and insights into two dramatically different interpretations of one action or event. I learned a lot from that writing style.
Actually, "who's telling the story" is the "narrator". The "point of view" is the perspective that the narrator takes, usually his own, sometimes an objective one (attempting to hide all subjectivitiy), and sometimes their channelling another character's subjectivity.
"Voice", with respect to point of view, is who the narrator sounds like. Does he talk like himself (and if so, his professional self, his private self...), or does he sound like the point of view character he is channeling.
The difference between first and third person has nothing to do with either, really. It's a formality: is the narrator also a character in story (first person narration) or not (third person narration)? [Since it's possible that the narrator only comes in at the very end, this distinction is not as hard and fast as people would like to tell you.]
Second person narration cuts across this as it assumes a point-of-view character distinct from the narrator, so that the narrator can address him/her. So it's possible that second person overlaps with first person (a character talks to another character - I can imagine stalker stories be quite creepy that way) or third person (an external narrator addresses a character).
Then there's the distinction between "omniscient" and "limited", which is basically a function of narrative distance - the distance between narrator and experiencer. Conventional lore only applies the distinction to third person, but that's short sighted, as the narrator in first person stories tells a story about his younger self, and thus there, too, is usually a discrepency between what the narrator (story-teller I) knows, and what the experiencer ("story I") knows. Also, the word "omniscient" is a bit of an overstatement, because very few "omniscient" narrator are really "omniscient".
Tense is a grammatical category, and - with respect to point of view - usually serves narrative distance: past tense, for example, marks a psychological distance between narrator and experiencer, present tense a psychological connection. I emphasise "psychological", because first person present tense narrators don't necesserily tell the story as it evolves; there's such a thing as "dramatic present" (the type you also use in meditation exercises or choose-your-own-adventure books).
It's really not even that simple, but the good news is that writers often get it right despite misleading simplifications in how-to books. Remember that there are more point-of-view errors in critiques than in actual fiction: many of them are theory artefacts - they're hard to analyse with the three-point-of-view models.
So, er, what is my favourite point of view? I have none. Neither for writing nor for reading. My favourite authors often do interesting things with point of view. Ian McDonald, in my opinion, is a master of point of view, and here is what he said about the topic:
Of course, every writer is different. It just made my day to read this from someone who I consider a master of point of view.
What Dawnstorm said
I prefer writing in 3rd person, but it doesn't matter with what i am reading as long as it grips me. A really good 1st person novel is Kushiels Dart by Jacqueline Carey. The entire story is written from one character's perspective. It's extremely well done IMO.
And how is that different than what I said? Narrator or pov is not the tense of the piece. It's not first, second, or third person. The tense is how the narrator or pov is narrating the story.
As with many writing terms, there is disagreement as to definitions and connotations and many words for the same thing, ie tight third is also called intimate third. A third person narration isn't telling us the actual pov, which could be intimate, in the character's head, or an omniscient narrator, or a limited third person narrator where we aren't firmly in his or her head. To simply say third person pov is not very informative.
Huh? First person tells me the narration is coming from one character who may or may not be in the story. It is not, however, telling me the pov (see above re: voice vs pov). First person can be omniscient, ie God telling us a story about some humans or aliens. Or the first person pov can be a character in the piece.
A narrator, even first person ones, can be reliable or unreliable. If unreliable, they can be withholding info, letting us know they're withholding info, not letting us know they're withholding info, have faulty memories, have no memories of some incidents or details, etc.
Whether a character is or isn't in the story tells me nothing about the pov. Who is that narrator? That's what I want to know. Everything else will follow from who he, she, or it is. At least for everything I've ever read.
Uh, no. The book I mentioned, A Prayer for the Dying, led to a very interesting book discussion with a group of librarians. Some of us thought the main character was the narrator, as I know many people who speak of themselves in second person. Others thought they, the reader, was the "you." And one person thought God was telling the story.
Second person is simply a method of narrating. It's not the narrator/pov.
I'm a bit confused about what you're saying now, so I can't answer clearly. I'll try later as I progress through your post, so bear with me.
Yes, terms are used differently - i.e. the same term may have different meanings. Also, the same meanings are often covered by different terms.
But the terms take their meaning from an over-reaching theory (there are always assumptions made that give the terms meaning), so that there is no guarantee that two terms that - in general - describe the same stories are the same; there may just be a huge overlap.
So, above you're saying that "tense is how the narrator or pov is narrating the story." Why does that confuse me?
1. "Tense" is a state that (finite) verbs are in. "I go." = present tense. "I went." = past tense. (Beyond that it gets murky in grammatical theory, so I'll sweep that under the carpet for now.) Clearly, when we're talking about "present tense narration", we're drawing on the grammatical meaning, but we're not talking about the state a verb is in - we're talking about the state that [what?] is in.
It is related to point of view, to be sure. But how? What are we exactly saying? And that leads me to:
2. "narrator or pov is narrating". How can a point of view perform the action of narrating? What is it that you are referring to, when you're saying "pov" in that sentence?
The narrator is, on a primary level, a person telling a story. But theory tends to use that in a more abstract manner, using "person" as a metaphor.
The narrator is the focal point for the point-of-view concept. That is: when a narrator tells you that something is bad, does the narrator think that thing is bad, or is he channeling a different character at the time that he is saying that.
A real life example:
You hit your finger with a hammer and say "Ouch!". The ouch is uttered by you (= you are the narrator). The "Ouch" represents your pain (= you are the point of view character).
I watch you hit your finger with a hammer, and I cringe at that, saying "Ouch!". I am the source of the utterance, but I the pain I am feeling is surrogate pain, empathy. My "Ouch" represents your pain. You are the point of view character.
This is the reason we need a concept such as point-of-view in the first place: there can be a difference between who speaks, and who experiences.
But this does not seem to be the way you are using the terms in above sentence, as "pov" can engage in "telling the story". Perhaps, I've been misunderstanding you. Or not understanding you at all?
If that were the case, there would be no stories that could not be analysed as first person. Any story at all is told by "one character". That may just be an assumption (and it's challanged in narratology by some people, who make a difference between "narration" and "representation", and claim that some of the stories that others - not narratologists - call third person limited have no narrator at all, but that's getting really complecated now...).
I've never seen any analysis that works that way either. For example, George Eliot's narrator in Middlemarch has an identifiable personality, and talks to the reader using first person pronouns. Yet, it's usually referred to as a third person narrator.
You could split the story in two: story telling contex + story context, in which case it would be fine to argue that the narrator is a first person narrator in story telling context, but a third person narrator in the story context.
Well, we do treat eye-witness accounts differently from hearsay. And that's why we're making a difference between first person (in-story pov) and third person (out-story pov) narration. Of course, out-story pov don't necessarily rely on hearsay. They could be, wait for it, "omniscient".
It does boil down to reliability, which is why some theorists think an "unreliable omniscient narrator" is a contradiction in terms, even though I disagree.
You're absolutely right that the question is "Who is the narrator?" and everything follows from that. But the story point of view is not necessarily the narrator's. That was the big novelty of what we now term "third limited". A narrator hiding behind a character surrogate, more or less successfully.
Yes, second person is simply a method of narrating. The identity of the narrator can be open - I can identify myself as the "author" of the story and say such things as "You'll never know why I made you up. That would mess up my plans." And later: "Why are you misbehaving so?" Things like that. I can establish in the manner that I am the author, and this is my character.
Similarly, a psychologist could get carried away investigating a suicide of a person he didn't know in life, and imagine how it was for him/her, addressing the suicide.
But from what you're saying I imagine that in A Prayer for the Dying we have no hint as to the identity of the narrator. Many second person pieces work like that (an example I can think of from my own reading experience would be the second person bits of Ian McDonald's "The Undifferentiated Object of Desire"). But having no hint as to the identity of the narrator is significant in terms of point of view. It means that - whenever we have evaluative statements - these have to attributed to a character.
Example A:
You and Jeannie watch the animal. Jeannie thinks that it's an ant eater. But that's not true. It's an aardvark.
Example B:
You and Jeannie watch the animal. The two of you think that it's an ant eater. But that's not true. It's an aardvark.
Example B is obvious: an external narrator corrects the assumption of characters. This interpretation is available for Example A, too. The narrator could be correcting Jeannie's assumption. Another interpretation would be that what we're getting here is the addressed character's pov. The addressed character is correcting Jeannie, not the narrator. These are different situations, and how we read lines like these depends on how we parse point of view.
If we never had a sign of the narrator, I think we're more likely to assume that the point-of-view character (addressed by the narrator) is correcting Jeannie.
Point of view is very complex. The same words can be ambiguous as to who we attribute the words on the page to (narrator or character), but the ambiguity is - in practise - resolved by the picture we have of the "point of view situation", which is a complex construct we create as we read.
I want to point out that this usually does not create any problems for the readers. Usually, the ambiguities will all be "invisible" to the reader; as the point of view situation takes care of this. It's a problem for the analyst.
If I go all scientific on you all: the empirical data is twofold: the text and the reading experience; the text (= the words on the page) is always the same, but the reading experience varies. It is possible that two different readers construct different point of view situations, and thus will have different assumptions about what characters know, which can lead to a slightly different story.
Basically there are three related questions:
1. Who is the source of the words on the page?
2. Whose perspective do the words on the page relate?
3. In whose voice do the words on the page relate the perspective?
So, going back to the situation, where I watch you hit your thumb with a hammer and say "Ouch".
1. I am the source of the word "Ouch".
2. You are the source of the experience that the word "Ouch" relates.
3. (a) If I don't normally say "ouch" but you do, I'm not only taking your perspective, I'm also taking your voice.
(a) If I normally say "ouch", but you don't, then I'm only taking your perspective, but use my own voice to relate it.
(c) If both of us normally say "ouch", then it's both our voices and we have no usueful clue to settle that question.
(d) If neither of us normally say "ouch", then I'm probably following a social script. I'm not really sure how to parse voice in that case, since "narrative distance" interfers.
I really think that asking such questions is a better way into learning to deal with pov than puzzling out the terms, especially since they're pretty crude to begin with.
The best way to get our terms straight would be to apply them to a specific text. If you're interested we could try pov analysis of a (short) predetermined text. Out of time now. I'm hoping I haven't created even more confusion (though experience has me expect just that .)
I usually write in third person, but in one book, The Speed of Dark, had to go to third person present tense--a difficult POV to sustain "pure" for technical reasons, esp. if the character thinks differently than the writer--as it was the only way to convey the quality of autistic cognition. I had started it in third person, past tense, shifted first to third/present to get the immediacy, and then realized it had to be first person/present to show what I wanted to show. The trick in that case it to be able to suppress one's own personality, way of thinking, and voice during a session...to show that Other.
I find second-person offputting, both to read and to write, although in nonfiction (on blog entries, for instance) I am quite comfortable with "you" in both the specific and general sense. As a reader, I feel that I'm being coerced into the POV, rather than invited in--forced to become the player-character, rather than allowed to observe him/her from outside, and it's particularly annoying when the character differs from me in important ways. First person is the POV talking directly to me--I'm still me, the character's still the character, though if I want to, I can "fall into" that POV.
In a conversation elsewhere on POV, Charlie Stross (who does second person POVs brilliantly, though I still find them unpalatable) said that he found some people really liked it and others really hated it, whereas nearly everyone will read a third person POV without a hitch.
The Speed of Dark was a wonderful book. The pov worked very well, as did the voice. I can't imagine it written any other way. Same as I can't imagine O'Nan's A Prayer for the Dying written in anything other than second person present tense, which didn't seem offputting or forced at all. If I'd read either had they been written differently, I might not have thought plain old tight third past tense for ex was wrong for them, but as they are, they were written in just the perfect voice/tense/pov for them. Somethings just click with a reader, and with a writer.
Eddie, you can't completely ignore common parlance just because it's technically inaccurate in academic theory. (In the same way that I cannot ignore the word "genre" just because it is used in the marketplace differently from its dictionary/academic definition.)
And in the common parlance, the narrator is the point-of-view -- is the camera. So for instance your example of a person hitting himself with a hammer and another person observing it and narrating the incident, and you saying the observing person is the narrator and the person hit with the hammer is the point-of-view character -- that's not going to work for most people. For them, the observer is the point-of-view narrator -- giving them the picture of the person hitting the hammer, and the person hit with the hammer is the focal character whose feelings are guessed at, but not known for certain, not definitively given. Likewise the Middlemarch omniscient narrator is technically a first person omniscient because that's how they tended to do it back then, but gets called third person by some because it relates the characters and their pov in third person.
It all comes down to inner thought. Whosever inner thoughts and feelings we get, they are the narrating pov character in people's conception, the camera in charge of the story for that part. All narration -- observation, description, dialogue, description of action, metaphor, etc. is considered to be coming through their psyche (their point-of-view of things,) unless we get the inner thoughts and feelings of some other character, who then is taking over for that part of narrative.
For straight first person, this is very easy to see -- one narrator, one point-of-view of the whole story, all other characters have their thoughts and feelings interpreted by the first person pov narrator. For third person tight, limited, intimate, whatever the f they call it, which is like straight first person or revolving/alternating first person, it is also very easy to see because it is one character, one point-of-view, one narrator to deal with at any one time. Even second person, which usually uses first person or third person limited as the jumping off point, can be therefore relatively easy to follow in terms of whose inner viewpoint you're getting.
Where things get more confusing on a writing comprehension level (but not on an instinctual reading or construction level,) is the different uses of omniscience, and not the technical, full-out omniscience but the working definition of the thing. Omniscience can come in many shades, allowing an outside narrator point-of-view and the ability of that narrator to telescope in to characters' inner thoughts and feelings, in whole or in part, and shuffle them like a deck of cards during a scene or just use one at a time. It can be done in first, second or third person, and done a lot of different ways.
And this gets harder for people to pinpoint, because they have actually no problem processing forms of omniscience at all, but have often been told that it is problematic. (Rocket Sheep speculated that this idea was actually started in Australia from a writing instructor and spread. I don't think it's been as much as an issue in the oughts as it was in the 1990's.) But if you focus them on who's thinking what when, then it tends to fall into place conceptually.
Right now, I'm reading two well-selling fantasy novels that are both written in third person omniscient, in a similar fashion though somewhat different from each other. Before that, I read a first person historical mystery. For me, it's just like shifting from one type of lens to another, one sort of framework for narration to another. But I can understand that some people like to stick with one lens for reading or writing.
If you take it down to the atomic level, it gets a lot more complicated than that, but most writers and most readers are not analyzing it at the atomic level, even when it's something like first person semi-omniscient or mixed first and third person with bits of second person, etc. They are looking at it as to who is telling the story, which translates into whose brain are we in at the moment.
Thanks, KatG. I never could have explained pov so well, though I did give it a muddled try.
I don't recall encountering a usage such as the hammer, etc, before, so had no idea how to properly address it.
Point of View is whose view is telling the story. A good omniscient first person narrator (I think it was omnisicent, but it's been a while since I read the book) is Arturo Perez-Riverte's The Club Dumas, which is infinitely better than the horrid movie they made of it (in which they cut out half the plot and lost the whole point of the story). The narrator, a book dealer as I recall, appears at the start and once later on, but otherwise is telling a story about other character's as he knows it to have happened. It's his pov, not the main characters driving the story, even if the "I" pronoun is rarely seen. Mostly, it's told in third person past tense, which is the style or voice or method or whatever, but not the pov. The guy narrating is the pov.
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"We heard about him, actually, when he was at Harvard - when he was tearing it up and doing a lot of great things," Leong said. "So we approached him, and in the beginning he didn't really want the cameras on him. He didn't want to be a reality star. But we persevered."
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He was thinking about kids who might see the documentary - that it could inspire them to reach for the Ivy League and beyond. And, despite not getting drafted and being waived by several teams, "just when he got into the NBA, that was a great story. It was amazing that he got that far."
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April 29, 1951 - February 18, 2001
Dale Earnhardt was born on April 29, 1951, in Kannapolis (Cabarrus County). His father Ralph, a competitive and innovative driver on the NASCAR Modified, Sportsman and Grand National circuits, amassed 350 victories over a 23 year career. Dale followed in his father's footsteps, dropping out of school in ninth grade to pursue a career in racing.
Earnhardt made his stock car debut in 1975 in the World 600 at the Charlotte Motor Speedway, finishing 22nd. He drove sporadically, without a full-time sponsor, until 1979, when Richard Osterlund chose him as driver for his team. He won at Bristol in his 16th start, and went on to place in the top five in 11 races during the season. His performance was stellar enough to earn Rookie of the Year honors, and the following year he won the first of his seven Winston Cup Series titles (a feat equaled only by fellow North Carolinian Richard Petty).
Known for his aggressive driving style, and in consequence dubbed "The Intimidator," Earnhardt dominated the sport through the 1980's and early 1990's. In addition to his seven Winston Cups, he won three IROC championships, was twice named American Driver of the Year, and five times named the National Motorsports Press Association Driver of the Year.
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[4/A]'I had hoped that you would seize the opportunity, Mr. Judge, to take up cudgels for the German people.
Because a blood lie has been pronounced on the German people for fifty years by the enemies of the German people, beginning with the original English propaganda lie, that we ourselves put in circulation in November 1942 against the German Reich.' ['Ich hatte gehofft, daß Sie die Gelegenheit wahrnehmen würden, Herr Richter, hier eine Lanze zu brechen für das deutsche Volk./ Denn gegen das deutsche Volk ist seit fünfzig Jahren eine Blutlüge ausgesprochen worden, von den Feinden des deutschen Volkes, ausgehend von der ursprünglichen englische Propagandalüge, die wir selbst im November 1942 gegen das deutsche Reich im Umlauf setzten.'] [Schlußwort, München, den 5. Mai 1992, nach der Originaltonbandaufnahme, n.d., 10pp., pp. 4 - 7; K4, Tab. 10, p. 68]
[4/B]'And it takes some courage, to stand up today, the way that I and an increasing number of other historians in the whole of the outside world do, and say that the Holocaust, the gas chambers in Auschwitz, didn't exist. They're just dummies, which were specially set up by the Polish or some other authorities after the end of the war in order to condemn and def... to defame the German people.' ['Und es gehört etwas dazu aufzustehen heute, so wie ich und das zunehmend andere Historiker auch tun in der ganzen Außenwelt und sagen, der Holocaust, die Gaskammernanlagen in Auschwitz hat es nicht gegeben. Die sind nur Attrapen die von den Polen oder von irgendwelchen Behörden extra erstellt worden sind nach dem Kriegende zur Verdammung, und zur Deffamierung des deutschen Volkes.'] [P's speech in Moers, 5 March 1990: K3, Tab. 5, p. 20]
[4/C]'In describing Britain as a Victorious Power, well, I'm happy to think that we're a Victorious Power and our Forces, British, Canadian, the Empire's Forces, fought grand individual battles world-wide with all the heroism that you come to associate with the Nordic peoples. The fact that we allegedly lost the war in real terms has still not been discovered by the historians. But to describe us as a Victorious Power when we were already bankrupt by Nineteen Forty, when we then went on for five years to dig ourselves even deeper into debt, destroying thousands of cities and killing millions of people, burning them alive and emerging from World War Two with our Empire already vanishing into nothingness, and to describe us now, forty-five years later, when we're little more than an off-shore Holland. [Laughter] as a Victorious Power, I mean it's very nice.' [P's speech at the Latvian Hall, Toronto, 8 November 1990: K3, Tab. 8, p. 10-11]
[4/D] 'Within ten years you will have recovered your Eastern Territories. Within fifteen years you'll have all East Prussia, including Konigsberg, Kaliningrad [unintelligible - 'back under the German flag'] [Applause] It is quite plain to me that the Deutschmark being the most powerful currency in the whole of Europe, probably by then the most powerful currency in the world. The sheer economic imperialism that this makes possible will enable Germany, a democratic Germany, to attain all the aims that Adolf Hitler set out to gain with his Panzer divisions in Nineteen Forty One. You will achieve an economic hegemony in the Ukraine, in the White, in White Russia. You will re-establish German influence in the, in the Baltic Countries.' [P's speech at the Latvian Hall, Toronto, 8 November 1990: K3, Tab. 8, p. 11]
[4/E]'So they're beginning to look for other people in the European race [for compensation], so it's turned to almost into a racial issue. It's the white Europeans who did this to the Jews and therefore the white Europeans are, it's a kind of collective guilt which is now spilling out onto all of us. And that nonsense has got to stop now, and I'm glad to say that the Archives make it possible to do so. [Applause]' [P's speech at the Latvian Hall, Toronto, 8 November 1990: K3, Tab. 8, p. 14]
[4/F]INTERVIEWER: You made a very powerful speech tonight [...] what is the message you're trying to get across to an audience of Germans like this?
IRVING: I'm very fond of the German people and it's depressed me for 30 or 40 years to see how not only have they lost their national identity, but they have no sense of national pride. They have a great tradition that you look back on and if they can look back beyond World War II. That World War II seems to have blown all the fuses as far as national pride is concerned and I'm trying to do something about restoring their sense of national pride.
INTERVIEWER: And do you restore their sense of national pride by telling them to be proud of what happened in the war?
IRVING: Well it depends what events you're looking at. There are certain events in World War II that I think they'd be justifiably proud of if they were British regiments .... [P's interview for 'This Week', 28 November 1991: K3, tab 12, p. 1]
[4/G]INTERVIEWER: There's a great deal of controversy in Germany at the moment about the influx of foreigners, of Poles, Rumanians, gypsies, Turks. Do you think that the Germans, some of the Germans are right to want those foreigners to leave?
Irving: The Germans don't have an Enoch Powell to speak for them. The Germans carry such a terrible political mortgage, so to speak, of the events of the Third Reich, the allegations of the Holocaust, and all the rest of it, that they're worried about speaking out openly. Any politician who was to speak out openly the mind of the German people would lay themselves open to cheap shots.
INTERVIEWER: What is the mind of the German people about this?
IRVING: Well you have to realize, this is something that I realized when I first came to Germany nearly 40 years ago as a steel worker in fact. I got to know the steelworkers on the furnace stage in the Ruhr. I worked in there for a year and I very rapidly realized, probably not to my surprise, that there were two Germanys, two Germans. The German you met in public and the German you met in private, in the bar across the beer table. And even now in Germany you'll find that when you're talking to journalists or professional people they'll give you the official opinion to start with, the mask. But behind the mask, at the back of their brain, is a real opinion which is tucked away, which is waiting to come out.
INTERVIEWER: And their real opinion is that they want to be pure Germans?
IRVING: Oh yes.
INTERVIEWER: And rid of foreigners?
IRVING: Oh yes. The Germans are always very proud of their German-ness.... And this German-ness is something, which persists in Germans abroad. It's probably where to look for it, this German-ness in its pure form, because you won't find it in the original motherland, you won't find it in the German fatherland because here it's been suppressed. It's been blanketed out by the events of World War II. [P's interview for This Week, 28 November 1991: K3, tab 12, pp. 2-3]
[4/H]'...I don't think I encourage any kind of violence, though I do try to encourage people to think for themselves and I'm trying to encourage the Germans to have the courage to speak for themselves and they haven't found that courage yet.'[P's interview for This Week, 28 November 1991: K3, tab 12, p. 5]
[4/I]'God works in mysterious ways, but here, we agree, he appears to be working [unreadable word] towards a Final Solution, which may cruelly wipe out not only Blacks and homosexuals but a large part of the drug addicts and sexually promiscuous and indiscriminate heterosexual population as well.' [Diary entry, 10 November, 1987; K4, Tab. 10, p. 19]
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Over the next several days, GoIslanders.com will bring you "Postcards from London," as assistant soccer coach Lauren "Money" Molinaro blogs about her trip to the XXX Olympiad. Here is her first entry, discussing her trip overseas and the events of July 28.
At 4 a.m. on Thursday, July 27, my trip to the London Olympics begins. I drive to San Antonio, hop a flight to New York, and head on an overnight trip to London. During the process, I lend my cell phone to an Englishman whose flight has been delayed and desperately needs to call his host family, I keep an eye on a single dad's belongings while he brushes his teeth because he slept the night in the Delta terminal, and I swap seats with an 8-year old so she can sit with her aunt during the 6:18 we'll be over the Atlantic Ocean. I wasn't actively trying, but I think I built up enough karma to make it a smooth trip.
Fortunately, I'm right. Everything goes smoothly, and I arrive at London's Heathrow airport promptly at 7:10 a.m., Saturday, July 28. The excitement and anticipation of this great adventure starts to really hit me as I explain my plans to the customs agent; basketball today, field hockey tomorrow, volleyball Monday, swimming Tuesday, and beach volleyball Wednesday.
His eyes widen as he says, "Wait, you're going to five events? FIVE? Do you know how lucky you are?" Then he tells me he wishes he were standing in my shoes. I say, "I'm wearing sandals." Just kidding, I thank him for reminding me how lucky I am, and I wish him a happy day.
A quick coffee, "white", and a cube of sugar, and I'm on my way to catch the Tube, London's version of a subway. Ironically, as I travel the English countryside, I'm surrounded by a group of American students from New Jersey. Who knew I had to come to all the way to London to chat with people from Jersey?
But being from the East Coast myself, we remark over how the sights of Metro North are quite different from the cleanly kept, neatly situated row houses lining the Tube. We're all here to see the Olympics. Even the two students just passing through on their way to Kenya are eager to see a swimming event before their 8 p.m. flight.
The Tube is literally filled with people and baggage, lots of baggage. Well, except I don't have very much because I thought it was a smart idea to travel to London with only a carry on. We'll see how that goes.
There are so many people headed to the Games it's incredible. I know I have to stop quickly at my friend, Gabe's, in Greenwich before heading to the Olympic Park, but I already feel good vibes in the air. London is buzzing with happy, excited, friendly people. In fact, Londoners are by and large the friendliest people I've met in my 32 years of travel. From the customs agents and the military soldiers to the bus drivers and the men serving fish and chips, their hospitality and genuine desire to help is truly unmatched.
I reunite with Gabe across from Greenwich Park. A few hugs, an egg sandwich, and about 10 stories about our lives later we hop the train to Stratford. Gabe works with the Olympic Committee assisting the Portuguese speaking nations of Africa and he dresses in official Olympic garb for our ride. "Last stop, Stratford!" echoes the robotic voice coming from the train's speakers and we exit.
The Olympic Park is bustling with people. It's awesome. There are flags and costumes, people dancing and chanting, and I almost run smack into a man with a spandex American flag suit. If that's not team spirit, I don't know what is! It may have been the best outfit of the day, except I think the British woman who created a "dress" out of small, plastic British flags may have actually taken the cake.
Gabe heads to work, as I head for fun. It's Saturday, and therefore, I'm here to watch basketball. The hike to the basketball stadium is a bit of a marathon in and of itself, but fun. It takes me a good 30 minutes to get there, but there are tons of creatively designed buildings and stadiums along the way to study.
There is even a rather large, green area with a JumboTron that is playing sports taking place at other venues. It is really cool to see so many different people from all around the world gathered in one spot to celebrate competition. As an athlete my whole life, there is nothing more special, more exciting, more admirable than the Olympics.
Thirty minutes and five conversations with friendly strangers later, I arrive at like cloud-like building where they are housing the basketball contests. I walk in, find my seat, and immediately befriend the two Dutch college students to my left. I introduce myself, tell them I'm from Corpus Christi, Texas, in the United States, and I even introduce them to Izzy the Islander (as you'll see in one of my pictures.)
We sit back and watch the stadium fill up with sports fans, and enjoy two great games of women's basketball. Turkey handles Angola quite easily in the 2:30 match, however the 5 p.m. game is a different story. The largely favored United States play Croatia and it is an all-out battle for the first three quarters. On one hand I am happy it is a good game, but on the other hand, as a proud American, I am kind of like, "Um, come on!" Fortunately, in the fourth quarter, the United States runs away with it and wins by 25, so I am happy.
I am also really just happy in general that I got to see the United States women's basketball team play live while in London. I was a soccer player at the University of Connecticut when Sue Bird, Swin Cash, and Diana Taurasi were on the UConn women's basketball team. Today, those three players represented the great nation of America in the 2012 Olympics. They fought, they battled, and they won, and in the process they made their family, their friends, their teammates, the UConn community, all of America, and me very proud. It's really cool to see people you know doing big things like representing themselves and their sport so remarkably.
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MARTINEZ -- Aaron Hern, the 11-year-old Martinez boy injured in the Boston Marathon bombings, had a successful surgery Wednesday afternoon and was beginning to talk with family after having his breathing tube removed, according to a friend who is with the family in Massachusetts.
The bombs exploded Monday as Aaron and a group of family and friends waited near the finish line to cheer on Aaron's mother, Katherine, as she finished the race. Aaron was with his father, Alan, his sister, Abby, 10, and family friends Sandra and Frank Hall.
Sandra Hall said Wednesday that shortly after 6 p.m. in Boston, Aaron was out of his second surgery and doing well. He had his first surgery Monday after the blast, but doctors decided to wait until Wednesday to reassess his injury and attempt to fully repair the damage.
The breathing tube was removed a few hours after the surgery and his mother said in an online update that he may not sleep well because he is much more alert and is already having to deal with memories of the blast.
"There's a long way to go there," Katherine wrote late Wednesday.
While Aaron is no longer on a breathing tube, doctors will monitor him for infections, Katherine said; they are concerned about proper blood flow in repaired muscle tissue.
The lingering fever that had family worried had decreased enough for doctors to go through with the surgery and had greatly reduced by the time the surgery was completed, Hall added.
"His whole leg was hit and the doctors said that the fever was probably caused by all these small abrasions from the tiny shards of shrapnel," Hall said.
Doctors were also successful in completely closing his wound; as a result, Aaron will not need skin grafts to heal.
Aaron remains in intensive care at Children's Hospital in Boston, but Hall said doctors are looking to remove his breathing tube as early as Wednesday night.
Aaron was wounded Monday when the blasts near the finish line of the race sent shrapnel into his left leg. The shrapnel caused three wounds in his upper left thigh, including one that "is an open wound about the size of an open hand," Hall said.
Specialists were monitoring the situation, Katherine Hern said in her latest update on Facebook at noon Wednesday, and that Aaron is trying to communicate through a touch pad. His hair and eyebrows also were singed during the explosions, Hall said.
It's unknown yet if Aaron and his family will be back in California in time to celebrate his 12th birthday on May 1.
Family members have been overwhelmed by support from the community, Hall said. Children's Hospital in Boston put up Aaron's family in an apartment, and prayers and well-wishes have been received from people near and far, Hall said.
On Tuesday, a Martinez restaurant, Roxx on Main, hosted a fundraiser that raised $4,500, Hall said. The restaurant, located at 627 Main St., donated its tips and proceeds to the Herns and said it will continue to do so every Tuesday until the Herns return home.
"I feel we must unite to support Martinez first," proprietor Roxanne Cole wrote on the flier announcing the fundraiser. " ... Don't worry, good will overcome evil in the end. Amen."
Mountain Mike's Pizza on 1160 Arnold Drive in Martinez also announced that 30 percent of the money from purchases made Wednesday through Sunday will go to the Herns. Two Kinder's restaurants in Walnut Creek and one each in Martinez, Pleasant Hill, Walnut Creek, Brentwood and Hercules will donate 15 percent of money from purchases Sunday through April 24th to the Herns, as well.
Several Contra Costa businesses have already organized fundraisers to offer support and help the family pay medical and travel costs.
"The family can't believe the outpouring of love," Hall said. "Every call they receive, every email they read, every text has been an outpouring of good wishes and love for their son."
Aaron is a student at Martinez Junior High, where he excels athletically and academically, administrators said. Principal Helen Rossi said Tuesday that the eighth grade is collecting donations for travel expenses and that some classes are making cards to send to the family.
"It was one act of evil, and since then, the family has been touched by thousands of angels." Hall said. "They can't express their gratitude enough."
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SAN JOSE -- The city marked its second homicide of the year Wednesday when a woman whom neighbors say ran a convenience store out of her home was killed in an afternoon shooting at an East San Jose condominium complex near O.B. Whaley Elementary School.
After receiving calls at 1:37 p.m. that a person had been shot, police arrived at the 2600 block of Ponselle Court -- off Tully Road between King Road and Highway 101, a short block away from the school. Inside the condo, they found a woman suffering from at least one gunshot wound. She was taken to Regional Medical Center in San Jose where she died about an hour later.
Police said they had no suspects or motive.
Martin Salgado -- an 18-year-old who has lived in the neighborhood for a decade -- was at his home in a nearby apartment complex when he heard a single shot around 1:30 p.m. He went out to see what had happened but didn't see anything unusual until several police units soon arrived in the area.
"It was like a bang," he said. "Just one shot."
Authorities would not confirm reports from multiple neighbors that the woman was known for running a business out of her home, selling snacks and sodas to people who lived nearby.
"She sold candy and chips, mainly to kids in the neighborhood," said Salgado, adding that he used to take his younger sister to the ground-floor home to buy snacks. She was nice," he said. "Really nice."
If the motive was to rob her little store, he said: "It makes me really angry. What would she have, a couple of $20s or something? It's not even worth it."
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Teresa Alaniz, who has lived nearby for three years, said she's seen the neighborhood take a turn for the worse in the past year, citing an increase in gang activity, drug dealing, prostitution, auto thefts and fast-moving cars that endanger young children at the school.
"The police are good when we call them, but we need something more out here," she said. "Kids get out of school at 2:30 and there are cars driving down the street like it's a freeway. I don't know what, but we need something more out here."
Later that day, another shooting happened near Quimby Road and Ruby Avenue in East San Jose, about three miles away from the homicide. A man was shot in the lower leg and walked into the hospital around 4:41 p.m. with non life-threatening wounds, police said. The shootings, however, are not believed to be related, police said.
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Basically I want to know your age, maybe your position and how many hours you practice. (A day or a week.)
I'll start.
I am 13 going to be 14 this September. I play center or power forward and I'm 5'11". I try to practice at least an hour a day but usually practice for about 2 hours outside on the court. (Shooting, conditioning, dribbling and around the basket moves). Then I come home get some rest maybe do some shoting or ball handling drills while watching TV. (Usually for about another 2 hours a day). Then three times a week in the evening I go out and run for about 1.5-3 miles. (Depends on how I feel). Since cross-country season is starting I might have to run more but I will still practice for at least 1 hour a day.
So that would be 1-4 hours a day of pure practice.
Or 7-28 hours a week of pure practice.
This thread is purely informational and I think it would be interesting to see how much other people on here practice.
I am 14 and im goin 2 9th grade. I play point guard nd im 5'6. here is a vid of me balling http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPIeOwHU8pA
Man you got game. Nice handles. Pretty fast too. The vid would be better if you made it with footage from your school tea games cuz it looks more official. Playground games don't really define how someone plays.
thanks. + i know but i didnt record during skool
i am 5'8 115 pounds, and 13 y/o. i play small forward. o practice 2 hours daily with my dad cause luckily i have a hoop in my yard
u had some skills . but thats only a street 5on5 u should take a vid in leagues bcoz u will have a different game between streetbasketball and league basketball. like me i think i have skills in league than streets. KEEP WORKING. we're the same but i'm 15 yrs old 5'6 senior year HS
I'm 5'6'' pg 13yrs. old and going to 8th grade. I practice 1-3 hours a day working on my ball handling, conditioning, shooting, passing, and sometimes with a few other people i practice my rebounding.
im 19, I practice 2-3 hours a day, play sg, and i play at least 4 days a week.
i am 12 turning 13 in oct.i am 5'7 i play smallforward i practice everyday and for 2-5 hours.
Great players are great leaders.Miamiheatboy
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plz post ur workout. include all drills, shots taken, moves, etc...
~if u wanna be a somebody in basketball, u gotta work hard~
I am 16 going 17 in December, I play Small Forward and I practice 7 days a week with my team for 2 hours a day + I am practicing home for another 2 hours (6 hours on weekends) and I wake up at 5:30 in the morning to run for stamina, then I do some weight training + vertical jump training. (5:30 in the morning is for summer, when there's school I usually run at 7 in the evening).
i'm 12, 5'2, an all out guard(any position sg or pg) and I practice about 2 to 3 hours a day on a normal day. so usually about 16 hours a week. sometimes more. i work on shooting, handles, rebounding, vertical, and post moves though i'm a guard.
"I've missed more than 9,000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed."-Michael Jordan
I am 12yrs old I am 5-2 and I play point gaurd. I practice nearly every day from the time i come home till the time the street lights are on.I do alot of ballhandling drills witch includes 2balls running up and down the street switching hands. I am also the leader of the new 2011 Raleigh Egypt Pharoahs. I also apart of the championsship winning Oak Grove Hawks.
I'm 14 turning 15 y/o at the end of September and I'm 173 cm tall and I'm a point guard.
During summer I go on public basketball court everyday and I spend 2-3 hours there and I play many scrimmages with my mates... But from middle September to beginning of June I can't go to the court everyday cause I have to study for school, so I practice with my team on Wednesday and on Friday for about 2 hours and then on Sunday I usually play the championship matches. Reading your posts now I know that my team and I practice less than you. This is just because I live in Italy, so workouts are very different.
Im going to be fourteen in 2 days, im 5'10 and i play forward. I practice from anywhere between 4 and six hours a day. I wake up at 6:30 and play for an hour until my school starts. I play during our brakes and then practice for a few hours after school ends. Im trying to be as good as i possibly can because i want to do well in highschool next year.
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