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Good save from Steer as Mattock breaks into the box and get shot away, it then comes for Tamas but the Norwich youngster is there to claim.
GOAL - SIMEON JACKSON - Mistake from Dawson as he feels to deal with ball and Jackson latches onto it and fires past Foster from 12-yards.
Poor clearance from McAuley is straight at Lappin, he counters, it comes for Drury and he crosses for Crofts, but he heads straight at Foster.
Norwich making a rare foray into West Brom's half, Drury puts it into the box but Dawson rises to clear. It only comes as far a Crofts but his deflected effort is taken by Foster.
Fortune tries to bring the ball down in the box, he goes over again this time under Ayala challenge - no penalty and never looked like one.
Dorrans fires ball into the box but it cannons of the Norwich defence for a corner. Ball comes in and after a scramble, Fortune goes down under Whitebread's challenge - home fans scream for penalty but nothing given.
Double change from Norwich with Holt and Hoolahan going off replaced by Simeon Jackon and Aaron Wilbraham.
Half a chance for Cox after nice play from Dorrans and Fortune but he can only hook the ball into Steer's grasp.
Nasty challenge from Holt on Mulumba, never looked like getting the ball as he slides in from behind.
GOAL - MARC-ANTOINE FORTUNE - Smart side-foot finish from 12-yards but it was all done to Thomas, he got the better of Martin and pulled it back for striker to fire home.
More good work from Thomas, he finds Cox in the box and his shot is just over, with Whitbread getting a crucial touch. Steer comes and collects the corner.
Right more feedback and there are some not very happy Baggies, Dave Lawrence has mailed in: "Oh, for God's sake - behind at home AGAIN after dominating the game AGAIN . . . . .We need a striker AGAIN . . . . ."
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Chance for Mattock to put a cross into box but with a host of Albion players waiting he puts is straight out, poor.
Norwich corner as Bennett looks for Pilkington down the left but Jara puts it behind. Fox takes again, Whitbread rises and wins it but Foster collects it.
More good football from West Brom. Cox and Thomas exchange passes and the striker gets his shot off, but Steer is down well to his left.
Game stopped as Tamas challenges Drury, which Norwich don't like - Pilkington and Jara also have words. No bookings, Norwich made that a worse incident than it needed to be, especially Pilkington.
GOAL - GRANT HOLT - Great work from Bennett down the right, he fires cross into six-yard box and Holt slides in to convert.
Right some more Feedback, lets look at the Tweets: Joy Farrell says: "Personally we need Morrison on!" whilst West Brom fan Dave Herrell is backing hi boy to come good from pool side in Cape Verde!
Ayala foul on Thomas. West Brom free-kick on corner of the box, real danger. Dorrans is over it but it is straight at Steer who takes with ease.
Wonderful challenge from Dawson to deny Holt. The Norwich skipper was ready to pull the trigger from eight yards but the England Under-21 star slides in to make the tackle.
West Brom corner now as Drury heads behind Thomas's cross. Dorrans takes and finds Fortune, who heads just over the bar. Close.
Mattock concedes the corner with Bennett pressing. Fox again will take, it is short to Hoolahan, he looks for Holt at back post but it is heavy and he can only help it out.
Fantastic save from Steer. Great work from Morrison and Jara, the cross came into the box and was met on the half-volley by Thomas but Steer manages to palm it onto the bar and Norwich clear.
West Brom corner as Thomas's cross is deflected behind. Dorrans takes and Dawson rises but he can't connect and Steer claims it.
Nice turn from Grant Holt and he looks to break but Dawson is across to clear his lines with an old fashioned hoof.
Thomas dispossesses Russell Martin, he works the ball to Morrison, he finds Fortune but he attempted back-heel for Cox is easily read and Norwich clear.
Nice passage of play from West Brom with Morrison, Dorrans, Cox, Jara and Thomas exchanging passes, but the latter's final ball is poor as he crosses into the box but it is straight out.
Norwich corner as Gabriel Tamas slices clearance behind after run from Bennett. David Fox takes but Tamas heads clear.
Pilkington again on the charge, he exchanges passes with Hoolahan but good work from Simon Cox sees West Brom clear their lines.
Norwich enjoying some time in West Brom's half with Pilkington looking to damage down the left but he is quickly dispossessed and West Brom try and counter.
Good run from Marc-Antoine Fortune, he turns his man and feeds Jara down the right but his cross is poor and straight at Steer.
West Brom enjoying plenty of possession at the moment, with Thomas looking dangerous on the Baggies left.
West Brom corner, Graham Dorrans puts it in but Norwich clear to the edge of the box and Anthony Pilkington gets rid of the danger.
Jerome Thomas wins a free-kick, he takes it quick too Joe Mattock, and gets it back - he puts cross into the middle but Daniel Ayala clears.
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Baggies have made three changes, and Norwich five changes. Joe Mattock, Gonzalo Jara and Craig Dawson in for the home side. For The Canaries, Steer, Adam Drury, Andrew Crofts, Wes Hoolahan and Elliott Bennett all come in.
Team news is filtering through and it appears Jed Steer is set to make his debut in goal for Norwich City. Both sides making a number of changes.
So first feedback of the day and it is from Sky Sports' own Nigel Pearson, he has Tweeted me, and he thinks 2-1 to his beloved Baggies.
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Skip to comments.Islamic And Mormonism Similarities: Similarities Between Joseph Smith and Muhammad
Posted on 12/26/2010 8:41:08 AM PST by Colofornian
Islam: Truth or Myth? start page
* "Modern Mohammedanism has its Mecca at Salt Lake... Clearly the Koran was Joseph Smith's model, so closely followed as to exclude even the poor pretension of originality in his foul 'revelations.' " (The Women of Mormonism, Frances E. Willard, 1882, Introduction, p. xvi)
* "The student of Mormonism will be struck with the similarity of experience and claims of Joseph Smith and Mohammed." (The Rocky Mountain Saints, T. B. H. Stenhouse 1873, p 2)
* "even though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed" Gal 1:8
1. The followers of Muhammad and Joseph Smith both killed innocent "infidel" on the same date of 9/11. On September 11, 1857, Mormon militia massacred about 140 men, women and children under the authority of Brigham Young. However 17 very young children were spared and adopted into Mormon families. They were in fact sold to the highest Mormon family bidder and resold and traded many times afterwords. This event is called "The Mountain Meadows" massacre. Mormon leaders engaged in a deliberate rewriting of history to deny they were behind the murders. On September 11, 2001 Muhammad's followers, using the Koran as a guide, sent two airplanes into the World Trade Center killing 3000 innocent men, women and children. Muslims today have a PhD in rewriting history and preach in the mosques that Jews were actually driving the planes, not Muslim terrorists.
2. Both were visited by an angel. Joseph Smith was visited by the angel "Moroni" and Muhammad by Gabriel. Galatians 1:6-9 says, "I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel; 7 which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you, and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8 But even though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to that which you received, let him be accursed."
3. Both were given visions.
4. Both were told that no true religion existed on the earth. In the published account of his life, Joseph Smith related that he became very disturbed when he was a youth because of the "strife among the different denominations," and this "cry and tumult" led him to ask God "which of all the sects were right and which I should join." He was told that he must "join none of them, for they were all wrong... that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt..." (Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith 2:8-19) N. J. Dawood says that Mohammed was also concerned with the fact that the Jews and Christians had "divided themselves into schismatic sects." In the scriptures given by Mohammed, we read: "Yet the Sects are divided concerning Jesus.... Truly, the unbelievers are in the grossest error." (The Koran, translated by N. J. Dawood, Surah 19, p. 34) In Surah 30, page 190, this warning appears: "Do not split up your religion into sects, each exulting in its own beliefs." In Surah 3, page 398, we read: "The only true faith in Allah's sight is Islam. Those to whom the Scriptures [i.e., Jews and Christians] were given disagreed among themselves through jealousy only after knowledge had been given them."
5. Both were to restore the long lost faith as the one true religion. Islam makes claim that Adam and Abraham were Muslims, a claim that is as ridiculous as it is undocumented from either history or archaeology. Mormons make the unsubstantiated claim that the church in the first century were Mormon.
6. Both wrote a book inspired by God.
7. Both claimed to be illiterate or uneducated and used this as proof the book was inspired. "How could an illiterate man write the Koran or the Book of Mormon?" Joseph Smith is claimed to have only grade three education.
8. Both claimed the Bible was lost, altered, corrupted and unreliable.
9. Both claimed their holy book was the most correct and perfect book on earth.
10. Both claimed that their new "Bible" was based upon a record stored in heaven. With Islam, it is the "mother book" that resides in heaven with God. With Mormonism, it is the golden Nephi plates that the angel Moroni took back to heaven.
11. Both claim that the version we have in our hands today are identical to what the prophet revealed and that parts are not lost, altered and corrupted. Of course the proof that these claims are invalid is found in two books. The Mormon claim is proven false by a book called "3913 Changes to Book of Mormon" by Sandra Tanner. The Islamic claim is proven false by a book (In Arabic language) called, "Making Easy the Readings of What Has Been Sent Down" by Muhammad Fahd Khaaruun. Both books show that the copy of the book of Mormon and the Koran used today is different from what was originally used when each religion was started.
12. Both claimed to be a final prophet of God.
13. Both claimed they were persecuted because of their pure faith.
14. Both were polygamists who had many wives.
15. Both borrowed from paganism/polytheism. Muhammad incorporated that polytheistic moon god called "Allah" and "Allah's three daughters" into Islam. Basically Muhammad chose Allah from within 350 known gods that were worshipped in Arabia and proclaimed the moon god to be the greatest and only God. Smith borrowed from a doctrine called "pyramidology" and the Masons and other magic systems.
16. Both received "after the fact corrective revelations" from God. Muhammad retracted the Satanic verses and Mormons retracted Smith's divine order mandating polygamy. But for Mormons it there is even a closer parallel. Sounds exactly like Muhammad and his satanic verses.
"As many false reports have been circulated respecting the following work, and also many unlawful measures taken by evil designing persons to destroy me, and also the work, I would inform you that I translated by the gift and power of God, and caused to be written, one hundred and sixteen pages, the which I took from the Book of Lehi... which said account, some person or persons have stolen and kept from me, notwithstanding my utmost exertions to recover it again and being commanded of the Lord that I should not translate the same over again, for Satan had put it into their hearts to tempt the Lord their God, by altering the words, that they did read contrary from that which I translated and caused to be written; and if I should bring forth the same words again, or, in other words, if I should translate the same over, they would publish that which they had stolen, and Satan would stir up the hearts of this generation, that they might not receive this work: but behold, the Lord said unto me, I will not suffer that Satan shall accomplish his evil design in this thing: therefore thou shalt translate from the plates of Nephi, until ye come to that which ye have translated... I will shew unto them that my wisdom is greater than the cunning of the Devil." (Book of Mormon, 1830 edition, Preface)
17. Immediately after the death of Muhammad and Smith, a fight broke out from among the "faithful converts" as to who would succeed Muhammad and Smith. Both groups were plunged into irreparable division that has endured ever since. Islam and Mormonism both have squabbles among themselves as to who is the one true splinter group of their prophet!
18. Mormons, contrary to the Bible, "baptize the dead" by gathering genealogies of all men who lived on earth. This contradicts the Bible: "But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and strife and disputes about the Law, for they are unprofitable and worthless." Tit 3:9 While the Bible says avoid focusing in Genealogies, the Mormon church makes it their central focus of mission. Mormons have even been criticized for baptizing, by proxy, the Jews had died in Nazi Holocaust camps. When lists of genealogies are collected, living Mormons are baptized, on behalf of, those on the lists, who have already died. In this way, Mormons view every man who lived, as being Mormons. In the same way Muslims claim that all men are born Muslims and when they learn the truth of Christianity, they are apostatizing from their first faith. Muslims re-write history by proclaiming Jesus and the Apostles were Muslims in a similar way Mormons baptize Jews (for example) with the expectation they will be Mormons in the next life. Yet gathering of large genealogical lists no more makes dead people Mormons in the next life, than re-writing history makes Jesus into a Muslim.
19. Both the Islam and Mormon religions have those who follow the "original doctrine" of the founding leaders and like these founding leaders, are violent, polygamists, and have revelations justifying their evil actions.
20. Both Muslims and Mormons (and Jehovah's Witnesses) have progressive revelation. Jws call it "new light". Muslims call it "Nasikh". Jehovahs Witnesses were once instructed to celebrated Christmas, birthdays and salute the flag, but "new light" changed all that. Mormons like all Muslims, were originally polygamists until "The Manifesto" against polygamy came as a revelation to John Taylor, over 40 years after Smith's death, on the eve of the US government outlawing the practice of polygamy. New revelation always replaces older revelation that became inconvenient to the prophet.
If you have not been a member, you simply cannot comprehend the severity of the burden of mormonism. 30-50 HOURS A WEEK of free labor, 10% (of gross) tithe with a year end tihing audit, a day's pay once a month for fast offering, and GUILT, GUILT, GUILT mixed in with never ending deceit and false doctrine.
Many members are good people and are all God' s children. They are being led straight to hell with secret masonic and occult temple practices (which you have not witnessed, I have), etc. We are trying to save them, as Christ tried to save the Jews during his time, because we love them.
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Sentinel is dead on in his description of both the burden of Mormonism and our motives. I, like Sentinel, used to be LDS and have witness the same things. He is not exaggerating at all.
Furthermore, the LDS reject the Christian doctrine of salvation by grace (as Christians define it) and instead seek to earn their salvation through the legalism of their church, their rules and regs, tithing, a 2 year mission and also seek to become Gods themselves.
I never heard the gospel of Grace UNTIL AFTER I LEFT MORMONISM - THEY NOT ONLY DO NOT TEACH IT, THEY TEACH AGAINST IT.
I have pinged other ex-mo's who will tell you the same thing.
Don't be fooled by the external appearances Mormonism puts forth, it is a bright shiny red apple on the outside but poisonous and rotten to the core on the inside.
Ping to 51
Glad you did it in public writing, now your intent is clear.
The Pharasees called Christ flamboyant also...He could have healed the blind man without making a spit/mud ointment on a sunday.
I'll be seeing you.
I have been to many Baptist churches (including independent ones) and have never had that happen.
Vendome is IFB, what say you V about this?
And again, Baptists have paid clergy, not a volunteer force required to work 40+ hours a week. There is a huge difference - especially when it comes to doctrine.
No; they were creating havoc everywhere in the country.
Only a part of the 'mormons' followed B.Y. out west. the others stayed behind without being KILLED, MUTILATED OR BURNT OUT.
THEY are the ones who ended up with all the property the FEARFUL ones abandoned...
Research the Rlds church: now Community of Christ.
The only sites you post are full of lies and spin. No truth there.
And you are no more persuasive over on the political threads either. IOW, PD, don't give up your 'day job'.
In my view, Salt Lake City functions more like Rome than like Mecca.
Mormons themselves say they are NOT "one branch" off of the Protestant tree. (They don't consider themselves a "breakaway" sect -- but a "restoration" of a dead & dormant church).
IOW: Mormons call all Christians "apostates"; Muslims calls Christians "infidels"...Wanna explain the difference?
One more note: Lds leaders like "prophet" Gordon Hinckley -- and their official magazine (Ensign) -- say Mormons worship & believe in a different Christ...& other Mormon sources present a different god than the Christian God.
Get right with God, know his word, and trust no man to be between you and God. On Judgement day, it's you and God, no other man will be present.
You will notice that we NEVER claim another Chruch to be RIGHT, only that the bible is accurate. Most of us are Non-denominational Christians.
Mormons, on the other hand have practiced such deceit and strong armed tactics over the years to cover up their doctrinal reversals that they need to be exposed for what they are. They began by claiming ALL CHRISTIAN SECTS ABOMINATIONS, THAT INCLUDES YOURS. Now they cover that up and try to STEAL the acceptance due Christianity by now claiming to be CHRISTIAN.
Look a couple posts back where Paragon Defender addressed me, HE CALLED BIBLICAL CHRISTIANTIY A CULT. THIS IS TRUE, BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, MCCONKIE "MORMON DOCTRINE" MORMONISM.
They lie, we expose, who has sinned ?
So you are calling Biblical Christianity a cult
Not at all my strawman friend. I am calling the cult that obsesses over and constantly attacks the LDS Church a cult.
I know many Christians of other denominations that are not part of your cult.
From now on I will begin my duty to expose them with his quote.....
SEEKERS OF TRUTH, PARAGON DEFENDER, ON DECEMBER 26th, 2010, HERE IN PUBLIC ON FREEREPUBLIC.COM CALLED BIBLICAL CHRISTIANITY A CULT, LIKE FLDS/LDS FOUNDERS JOSEPH SMITH AND BRIGHAM YOUNG, and as taught straight out of LDS "Apostle" Bruce R McConkie's "Mormon Doctrine" published 1958.
Consider his perspective when reading ANY OF HIS FUTURE POSTS.
As for the allegation that the Koran was Joseph Smith's model, I suspect that the writer knew little of either the Book of Mormon or the Koran.
Our latitude and longitude can be determined in the original Hebrew with far greater accuracy than in the English version. There is a grand distinction between the actual meaning of the prophets and the present translation. (See Documentary History of the Church, vol, 5, pp. 33945.)
With reference to something of value noted in another translation of a part of the Bible, he once said:
From ---> http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&locale=0&sourceId=8003438d9b76b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD
I have an old edition of the New Testament in the Latin, Hebrew, German and Greek languages. I have been reading the German and find it to be the most nearly correct translation, and to correspond nearest to the revelations which God has given to me for the last fourteen years. (Times and Seasons, vol. 5, p. 614.)
The influence of German and German people seems to have matured in the Prophet Joseph Smith before his death in 1844. He apparently had gained some understanding of the German language, for in his last public speech, given at the funeral of a man named King Follett, he remarked, "I have been reading the German, and find [the Lutheran Bible] to be the most (nearly) correct translation, and to correspond nearest to the revelations which God has given to me for the last fourteen years."12 In the same sermon, the acknowledged climax of the Prophet's career, he translated into English while reading from the German Bible and added, "I know the text is true. I call upon all you Germans who know that it is true to say, Eye [sic]. (Loud shouts of 'Aye.')"13 A few days later Joseph Smith made further reference to this subject: "The Germans are an exalted people. The old German translators are the most nearly correctmost honest of any of the translators."14
(From ---> http://ash.byu.edu/publications/jbms/?vol=11&num=1&id=295&cat_id=311 )
And yet, Joseph's GOD told him to re-'translate' the KJV of the Bible, instead of using the "More Correct" GERMAN one.
(And yet; the Salt Lake City bunch of MORMONs do NOT think the JST is considered to be SCRIPTURE. I wonder why?)
Who are you, some elder, are you even a High Priest, the rank I had when I resigned ?
Who are you to question the teachings of the men you say spoke with God face to face ?
I will continue to stive to be like Christ, Paul, and other TRUE APOSTLES, and expose and confront the lies and distortions of the the existing powers, forever and ever, amen.
--MormonDude(Come back to the fold, and all will be forgiven.)
Yer back from CHURCH now!
Folks; this thread has something to do with MUSLIMs; I think...
-- Mark Twain
The Bible dictionary says that God is The Supreme Governor of the universe and the Father of mankind. We learn from the revelations that have been given that there are three separate persons in the Godhead: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. From latter-day revelation we learn that the Father and the Son have tangible bodies of flesh and bone, and that the Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit without flesh and bone (Doctrine and Covenants 130:22-23).
Mormons believe that these three godsseparate in personality {but}. . . united as one in purpose, in plan, and in all the attributes of perfection (Mormon Doctrine, p. 317)are the partnership which rules the universe, with God the Eternal Father the controlling and governing power. LDS Apostle James E. Talmage states it this way: These constitute the Holy Trinity, comprising three physically separate and distinct individuals, who together constitute the presiding council of the heavens (Jesus the Christ, p. 32).
This belief is distinct from the traditional Christian doctrine of the Trinity, which generally maintains that they are three persons but one in essence. All three members of the Godhead are eternal and equally divine, but play somewhat different roles.
(From MORMON.wiki ---> http://www.mormonwiki.com/Godhead ) Move along: no agenda here...
Our Heavenly Father, also called Elohim, stands in the exalted position above all beings.
However, Joseph Smith says that . . . he is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! . . . .If you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in formlike yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man; for Adam was created in the very fashion, form, and image of God, and received instruction from, and walked, talked, and conversed with him, as one man talks and communes with another (Documentary History of the Church, p. 305).
Yup; the same source as above...
You KNOW?
What a JOKE!
Courtesy ping to Jim...
Then they are deceived, for their CHURCH fears the United States Government, and NOT their 'god'.
The 'church' will EXCOMMUNICATE anyone found following wht their 'god' said to do in D&C 132.
Good for you; but THAT tactic is NOT spelled out in their 'scriptures'; probably the KJV of the BIBLE.
And yet; DEFENDER; you've YET to actually SHOW any.
On any other location other than FreeRepublic; you'd likely be called a LIAR.
Here is some of MORMONism's PROPAGANDA:
And we HEARTILY thank you for them!
"I am not a Mormon, but the ones I know are god fearing people."
Sure. But which one? They believe in FOUR EARTH GODS:
1. Heavenly Father: used to be a man. Became a mormon god.
2. Heavenly Mother: used to be a woman. Became a mormon god
[The two of them breed perpetually in heaven to pop out every angel, spirit, etc. There may be MORE than one Heavenly Mother, since they believe in celestial polygamy]
3. Mormon Jesus: used to be a man, who earned godhood through his efforts - also a married polygamist.
4. Mormon Holy Ghost: a created spirit being who did something naughty and failed to get a body as punishment - somehow is a god.
5. BONUS MORMON GODS: millions/billions/trillions of mormon gods spread throughout the planets. More being minted all the time. Every mormon male could become a god, assuming he does all that good stuff you refer to.
6. God's God: Mormons believe God had a god. His God had a god. His God's god had a god, etc.
Which god do they fear?
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Shows that you hang around with uninformed 'christians'.
Why don't you get them to lurk these threads so they can see how you and your fellow MORMONs are picked on so unjustly.
How does THAT work?
"MORONI: used to be a man; and now an ANGEL?"
"How does THAT work?"
Promotion by the head demon, Wormwood for good work in helping young Joe Smith...
***No decapitations in Utah of outsiders who wander down the wrong trail either.***
It didn't use to work that way.
Mountain Meadows Massacre,
Shephard's wagon train ambush.
Mormons fighting alongside Indians at the Meeker Massacre,
Miltmore wagon train ambush.
Ambush of Lt Gay and his men led into it by a mormon "guide".
Navajos supplied wih guns by the mormons during the Navajo wars.
Morrisite massacre,
and many more..
And then there are all those stories by reputable people of Mormons cutting the throats of "sinners" amongst the mormons" and castrations of other "sinners" who were mormon..
I was informed, maybe wrongly, by other FReepers long ago that I should not post any anti Mormon stuff at the peril of my account.
IS this not acurate?
***Many Baptist churches do these same things, especially the independents.
I QUIT a Baptist church when they wanted to see my paycheck stub.....***
I have never ever heard of a Baptist church doing this! Been going there for the last 35 years. ( Note: I am not a Baptist but the wife and kids are Baptists.)
Usually small non aligned congregations, not SBA or the other one I cant remember the letters....
Glad to hear both Sentinel! As a nevermo, I can only relate to what I've read regarding the trust factor being damaged upon leaving mormonism. After all the teaching of the only true church - and being burned by it and all. Many exmormon sites have an abundance of atheists/agnostics. Good to have you finding a church home where you can fellowship with other Christians and heal. Being able to drink coffee during the sermon is bonus!
Remember, any church can call itself Baptist. There are many that are really small fiefdoms for the preacher and his family. The WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH comes to mind....
Might well ask whether or not these so-called links (of which, only 2 can represent OFFICIAL doctrine for the lds church) will speak to this. When you do dig in, you will find prophets and apostles thrown under the bus because their teachings of doctrine are not PC enough in todays era - and so they must write them off. Seekers will note - for a church that claims a living prophet - these were the teachings of the living prophets at the time. If they are as screwed up as mormons of today claim - how trust worthy is the doctrine and teachings of the church built upon those very same 'mouthpieces' of the gods?
***I QUIT a Baptist church when they wanted to see my paycheck stub.....***
"Good for you; but THAT tactic is NOT spelled out in their 'scriptures'; probably the KJV of the BIBLE."
Here it is! Strange! No forced giving!
XIII. Stewardship
"God is the source of all blessings, temporal and spiritual; all that we have and are we owe to Him. Christians have a spiritual debtorship to the whole world, a holy trusteeship in the gospel, and a binding stewardship in their possessions. They are therefore under obligation to serve Him with their time, talents, and material possessions; and should recognize all these as entrusted to them to use for the glory of God and for helping others. According to the Scriptures, Christians should contribute of their means cheerfully, regularly, systematically, proportionately, and liberally for the advancement of the Redeemer's cause on earth."
Even as bishop, I never devoted as much as 30 hours a week to church work. (Someone who spends that much time is probably doing it wrong.)
I tithe 10% on my net (not gross) income. I have never conducted or been subjected to a "tithing audit." (Do you mean "tithing settlement"?)
Fast offerings are voluntary contributions to help the poor. The amount given is entirely up to the giver; the cost of two meals per month is suggested. I try to give more, but no one has ever questioned or even commented on my fast offering.
As for guiltwell, I feel guilty when I offend others. In my opinion, guilt is entirely appropriate in such cases. Fortunately, the Atonement of Jesus Christ provides the means whereby I may repent of my sins.
Never heard of such a thing in my life.
I grew up IFB and that would never happen. It's an honor system and besides, we don't believe in 10% tithe. As far as I know there are no Baptist churches that believe in a literal 10% tithe and there are no Baptist churches who would have the temerity to ask for a paycheck stub.
Why? Well, you could read the parable of the woman who gave so very little yet it was all she could and from her heart.
God is interested in your intentions.
God has zero interest in proving yourself "worthy and well qualified". That is strictly a Mormon concept and a Masonic concept, of which I belong to.
There is none worthy, no, not one. So if God doesn't make the disctinction of a anyone being better than the other, for any reason, why then should it make sense to prove you are worthy.
Clearly you are not worthy and proof of your honesty by usurpation of your free will to decide "what" you want to give, how much of it and when is not worthy of God and is a concept of obligation by man to man.
41 And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much. 42 And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing. 43 And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury: 44 For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living.
BTW, I went to Southern Baptist all over The South for years and I never heard of this practice proving yourself to another by showing your paycheck stub.
It's stupid, without basis and ignores that may have a cast down, baby clothing, food, money, etc.
But you can give what you would and you would give what you can because the spirit compels you. Not because some man goaded you or shamed you to prove you are worthy or even a good Christian.
You need only prove yourself to God.
All the rest is bragging rights and God doesn't care for that either.
I believe MHGinTN had something more succint on this subject a few days ago.
Nice try though. He's a Southerner and he won't buy what you are selling either.
If you want to name the church that requires this I would be happy to investigate myself but I'm calling Bravo Sierra on this one.
I'm Jewish. I really don't know much about the Mormons except for the hospitality they showed me when I visited their place. I have a copy of their book, which I've only looked at a little. Just let's say that our book has a lot more witnesses and archeology. But since I thought they were nice people anyway I did try to learn a little bit about their history when I got back home. This is nearly 20 years ago so maybe my memory has faded a bit. My recollection thought is that these folks were persecuted from pillar to post, and sometimes they fought back. A quick look at the Wiki articles now reinforces this.
If it is Mormon doctrine to slit non-believers throats and someone can point out where I might find this in any of their writings I will certainly have a look. This started as some sort of comparison between Islam and Mormonism; and surely I can find the "smite them at their necks" stuff in the Koran. Until someone leads me to such passages in the Book of Mormon, I guess I'll remain shocked by the hatred some of my fellow FReepers show for this group.
Good point. There are many cults that masquerade as Christian churches, and that is not limited to the Baptists alone.
And they should be held to the same doctrinal standards as everyone else who claims to be part of the body of Christ.
And Mormonism is apart from Biblical Christianity and not even close to Christianity doctrinally.
****Usually small non aligned congregations, not SBA or the other one I cant remember the letters....****
The only church I can think of other than Mormons that require 10% would be the Seventh Day Adventists (SDA). Many of the other churches wish the congregation would voluntarily give 10% but don't require it.
"I was informed, maybe wrongly, by other FReepers long ago that I should not post any anti Mormon stuff at the peril of my account.
IS this not acurate?"
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It used to be that way a very long time ago, but that changed several years back. I have pinged Greyfoxx39 as she was part of the 'mormon war' here on FR. She can fill you in as I was off FR at the time.
Good to hear, fellowship is important for spiritual growth even though our salvation is not dependant upon it.
And it is very hard to trust after coming out of a cult. I have some friends who attended a cowboy church (the husband was saved at one from Mormonism) for many years and spoke highly of the movement.
***If it is Mormon doctrine to slit non-believers throats and someone can point out where I might find this in any of their writings I will certainly have a look.****
Google the words — blood atonement — and you will get plenty. Please note I did not say for you to google MORMON BLOOD ATONEMENT, but only the words— blood atonement.
Your attributions of hatred, when we have done/said nothing hateful speaks more negatively about you than us.
Also, why do you care? You are Jewish, and they reject Jesus as Messiah, so you don't have a dog in this fight.
You assume that all Mormon doctrine can/is found in the Book of Mormon, or even the D&C and that is simply NOT true. Mormons believe in 'continuing revelation' and blood atonement comes not from their scripture but from their 'prophets'.
However, we would be more than willing to provide quotes from their prophets (also considered scripture) about the doctrine.
Start here...
****If it is Mormon doctrine to slit non-believers throats and someone can point out where I might find this in any of their writings I will certainly have a look.****
I showed you where to look and you throw a hissyfit.
I just can't please some people!
"This isn't really my fight or my issue, except that your HATRED is shocking to me."
People are drawn to some TV shows for that very reason!
It would appear that your post itself is quite judgmental and hateful. I find your usage of capitals hateful.
Well, that is obvious. I (and other inmans) however DO know alot about Mormons and their doctrines. Many of us haven't just 'met' nice Mormons, we lived that religion, we taught those doctrines and we believed them. And then we found out the truth - that Mormonism is all a lie.
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Dude, SPOILER!
It airs at 9pm on the west coast.
DUDE! I'm with you there. shoot.
hey! and doesn't this have something to do with a feature or something that i might have written on the subject that appears in the, uh, current stranger that came out, uh, earlier today? memory fails. apparently.
Dan couldn't hold out...premature ejaculation...
Fucking Stranger and your fucking no respect for fucking spoiler alerts.
Anyway, I watched the show before I came here because if it's no Ari ruining my life with comic spoilers someone is inevitably going to throw around some announcement about the AI.
Onto more important matters: American Idol is getting out of hand, just as everyone is predicting. I don't understand how Sanjaya can at all still be around. I disagree with Savage's theoretical "boy fucker" analogy. I think it's Vote for the Worst behind it all, but that could just be me.
But to not even have him in the bottom three?
Jesus Christ, I want to end it FOR THEM.
"...if he is not eliminated, and soon, the show will have lost its credibility."
I didn't know there was anything on television that had credibility.
What happened to the turd that won last year? Is Clay Gaykin an example of credibility? Actually, did he even win the competition???
This show looks an awful lot like how we elect a President.
I too like blow jobs.
This show is stupid and so is anyone who deeply cares.
This whole Sanjaya drama, and how he's being Grand Chawheed through each round by the audience as a joke, is an indictment of this show's entire concept.
Turn off your TVs and go do something for a change.
The show is called "American Idol" and people are idolizing this guy so what is the problem.
I remember loving David Cassidy as a kid. . he wasn't that great of a singer either but all the young girls I knew loved him too. Just saying. . .
I remember loving David Cassidy as a kid. . he wasn't that great of a singer either but all the young girls I knew loved him too. Just saying. . .
I remember loving David Cassidy as a kid. . he wasn't that great of a singer either but all the young girls I knew loved him too. Just saying. . .
I remember loving David Crosby as a kid. . he wasn't that great of a singer either
I remember loving Bob Newhart as a kid...
I'm not going to poop until Phil Stacy, the bald one, gets voted off. He's disgusting.
David Cassidy was a great singer, whaddya mean?
I look to Sanjaya to help lead pop music away from the boring "diva" style -- male or female -- of singing, that has rendered even the cheesiest pop treats into some kind of faux-Pavarotti, faux-Aretha warblefest. Then maybe they can get some decent tunes, and guys like Sanjaya can sing them, and the proper arbiters of pop taste -- teenage girls -- can be restored to their rightful throne.
And the Simon Cowells of this world can be cast back into the pits of hell whence they came. Seriously, the only reason anyone listens to him is because he's got that Brit accent. He should be selling knives or vacuum cleaners at the Puyallup Fair.
They're not idolizing the guy, B. They're voting for him en masse because he sucks, as a huge joke.
# 18... I beg to differ with you. I, for one of many, AM very much IDOLIZING that hottie Sanjaya! Sigh....
David Cassidy was a GREAT singer!!!
The Partridge Family show was awful but they made really good pop music... in fact, i'm going to put on their greatest hits cd now...
Sanjaya is probably safe for a couple more weeks, but he's toast after that...every year there's a ridiculously bad singer who gets propelled along by 'Vote for the Worst' and dimwitted grannies and tweens who like this type of 'performer' but they always end up going bye-bye around the 6th elimination....Phil and Haley Scarnato are going in the next couple weeks, then it will be Manjina's turn...or maybe cute Chris, then Manjina...
I'm not an Idol watcher but Sanjaya is clearly very popular with teenage girls...and isn't that a big part of 'idol' status? How many music superstars have incredible voices vs. how many package themselves well?
On a different note. While visiting my parents, who watch FOX news, they actually had segment on Idol and called Sanjaya the BANE of their (the channel's?) existence. This is worthy of valuable NEWS time? Not that FOX is news. I'm just saying...
sanjaya! you need to fucking go home. NOBODY wants you there you are a fucking flamer and you cant sing. if you dont get voted off by next week im gonna fucking kill myself. you fucking cock juggling thunder cunt!! go home!
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More than 100,000 people a year die in American hospitals from adverse reactions to medication, making drug reactions one of the leading causes of death in this country, researchers are reporting today.
The deaths, as described in the current issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association, are not due to mistakes by doctors in prescribing drugs or by patients in using them. Rather, drug reactions occur because virtually all medications can have bad side effects in some people, even when taken in proper doses.
''We want to increase awareness that drugs have a toxic component,'' said Dr. Bruce Pomeranz, an author of the study and a professor of neuroscience at the University of Toronto. ''It's not rare.''
The findings are a surprise, though, because deaths from adverse drug reactions often go unrecognized. Even when the cause is known to be a drug, that is rarely recorded on the death certificate, Dr. Pomeranz said; a certificate might list a stomach hemorrhage as the cause of death, without mentioning the drug that brought it on.
Researchers said yesterday, however, that medications did far more good than harm and that patients should not stop taking them for fear of reactions.
The study said that the average number of hospital deaths from medications was 106,000 per year. In 1994, for example, there were 106,000 such deaths as well as about 2.2 million nonfatal adverse drug reactions. Nearly 7 percent of hospital patients were found to have had reactions, Dr. Pomeranz and his team at the university found, and 0.32 percent suffered fatal reactions. ''These numbers are surprisingly high,'' Dr. Pomeranz said.
But the scientists reached their conclusion not in one large study but by combining the results of 39 smaller studies. This technique, called meta-analysis, can enable researchers to draw statistically significant conclusions from studies that individually are too small, but critics of the method say it can produce questionable results. The authors of the study published today emphasized that its conclusions should be viewed with caution.
Still, even researchers who said the study might have overestimated the number of drug-related deaths said it had identified a serious problem.
Dr. Lucian Leape, a professor of health policy at the Harvard School of Public Health, said that he had ''problems'' with the figures and that the real number of drug-related deaths might be half what the researchers estimated. Even so, he said, ''it's still a big problem.''
''This is a very useful piece of research,'' Dr. Leape said.
No comprehensive records are kept of medication-related deaths, Dr. Pomeranz said. Doctors and hospitals rarely report such deaths. Health care officials are not required even to keep track of them, although the Health Care Financing Administration is developing regulations that would compel hospitals to monitor patients for adverse drug reactions.
''Do you want to guess how many death certificates in 1994 showed deaths due to drug reactions?'' Dr. Pomeranz asked. ''It was 156.''
The Food and Drug Administration, which asks doctors to report adverse drug reactions, received notice of only 3,500 such deaths in 1994. And that number is not comprehensive because the reporting is voluntary.
Dr. Michael A. Friedman, lead deputy commissioner of the F.D.A., said the agency's reporting system was not meant to be encyclopedic but to identify new, previously undescribed adverse drug reactions so that the agency could alert the public and the medical profession to them.
Dr. Friedman declined to comment on the large number of deaths from adverse reactions reported in the study, but he said ''we recognize that every medication has some side effects,'' particularly the powerful medications taken to treat life-threatening conditions like cancer and severe heart disease.
Dr. Pomeranz and his colleagues based their research on 39 studies performed in American hospitals by other researchers from 1966 to 1996. These studies were designed to monitor patients for adverse drug reactions, which were considered separately from mistakes in prescribing or administering medications. Dr. Pomeranz's team extrapolated from those studies to make national estimates. Initially, the researchers looked at data from around the world, Dr. Pomeranz said, but ultimately focused on the United States because the most studies had been done here.
Patients in the studies had had drug reactions while in the hospital, or were admitted because of such reactions. About a quarter of the problems were allergic reactions, and the rest were other side effects.
After analyzing the results of the 39 studies, Dr. Pomeranz and his colleagues estimated that there were 76,000 to 137,000 deaths a year from drug reactions. They averaged the figures to estimate that the number of deaths was mostly likely about 106,000. Using the lowest estimate makes drug reactions the sixth-leading cause of death in the United States, higher than diabetes and pneumonia and lower than heart disease, cancer, stroke, lung disease and accidents. Calculating from the mean, drug reactions would be the fourth-leading cause of death.


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House Republicans have tapped natural-gas lobbyist and Capitol Hill veteran Tom Hassenboehler for a senior staff role on the powerful Energy and Commerce Committee.
Hassenboehler will be chief counsel for the Energy and Power subcommittee.
He's returning to Capitol Hill from his role as vice president of policy development and legislative affairs with America's Natural Gas Alliance, a trade group for gas producers.
Hassenboehler previously worked on the committee staff from 2004 until 2008, and then served three years as counsel to the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee before going to the gas trade group.
He has also worked for former Reps. Billy Tauzin (R-La.) and Bob Riley (R-Ala.), and holds undergraduate and law degrees from Louisiana State University.
Upton said Hassenboehler will be busy.
"We look forward to an aggressive energy agenda in the 113th Congress as we continue our pursuit of North American energy independence and work to keep energy stable and affordable for American families through oversight of existing policy and new solutions for the future," Upton said.
The chief counsel slot opened up after former counsel Maryam Brown recently BoehnerJohn BoehnerDem drops out of race for Boehner's old seat Conservative allies on opposite sides in GOP primary fight Clinton maps out first 100 days MORE-taps-energy-committee-vet-for-adviser-role" href="http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-wire/268507-boehner-taps-energy-committee-vet-for-adviser-role">took a job as energy adviser to Speaker John BoehnerJohn BoehnerDem drops out of race for Boehner's old seat Conservative allies on opposite sides in GOP primary fight Clinton maps out first 100 days MORE (R-Ohio).
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Roberta Shore was a busy child actor on television and, to a lesser degree, in movies during the 1950s and early '60s. Born Roberta Jymme Schourup in Monterey Park, CA, in 1943, she discovered early on that she was a natural singer and performer, and by age 10 was appearing at local event in San Gabriel, where she was raised, and the surrounding area.… More Bio:
Roberta Shore was a busy child actor on television and, to a lesser degree, in movies during the 1950s and early '60s. Born Roberta Jymme Schourup in Monterey Park, CA, in 1943, she discovered early on that she was a natural singer and performer, and by age 10 was appearing at local event in San Gabriel, where she was raised, and the surrounding area. Billed variously as Jymme Shore and Roberta Shore, she passed through Tex Williams' television show and became a regular performer on The Pinky Lee Show at age 11. The following year, she was hired by Walt Disney Studios to play the foil to Annette Funicello in some of the filmed entertainments shown on The Mickey Mouse Club (although she was never a Mouseketeer, due in large part to her being considered too tall). She subsequently played in The Shaggy Dog as Funicello's rival for Tim Considine, in addition to singing the movie's theme song. Shore was heavily involved with the Disney organization for the next few years, doing voice work in animated films and recording for the Disneyland label. Shore also turned up in Father Knows Best as a girlfriend of older daughter Betty Anderson (Elinor Donahue), and played the rambunctious Hank (real name Henrietta) in The Bob Cummings Show (1961-1962), in addition to showing up in early '60s episodes of The Adventures of Ozzie And Harriet, as one of Ricky Nelson's girlfriends. Shore could also be seen in supporting roles in such feature films as A Summer Place and Blue Denim. In 1962, Shore was signed to play Betsy Garth, the daughter of Judge Henry Garth, in the 90-minute weekly western series The Virginian. She was 19 when the series went into production, but Betsy Garth was initially identified as a 15 year old (she celebrates her 15th birthday in the first episode), which, incidentally, takes place sometime in 1890 (specifically identified in episode two, which was focused on her character and gave Shore a lot to do dramatically). After the first season, however, the producers quietly advanced Betsy Garth's age, also giving her a love interest that audiences could accept in the person of new cast member Randy Boone, an actor/singer with whom she later recorded an album, in addition to singing with, in character, on the show. The series was a success, and Shore had a seven-year contract with the producers, and her future on network television seemed assured. But her religious background -- she was from a devout Mormon family -- was to take her out of The Virginian and performing earlier than most onlookers would have expected. Marriage and a family were always in the plan for her, sooner rather than later, and she decided during third season, when she was 21, that she was going to marry actor Ron Frederickson -- who was also a Mormon -- and leave the show. There was an episode written for the early part of the fourth season, entitled "The Awakening," in which Betsy Garth married a character played by Glenn Corbett and left the Shiloh Ranch, ending her tenure on the series. The producers also suspended Shore for the three years remaining on her contract, which had no actual effect on her, as she had walked away from acting to start and raise a family, which she did. Shore subsequently moved to Salt Lake City and, apart from an appearance in one movie in the 1970s and work as a disc jockey, maintained a private life for the next several decades. In 2003, she suddenly re-emerged in one corner of the performing world when she was cast in Gary Rogers' Book of Mormon film, along with her husband. In 2009, Shore and series star James Drury both did new on-camera interviews about The Virginian for the DVD release of the series' complete first season.
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In the last two months, authorities in Hong Kong have arrested more than 800 people for trying to smuggle powdered baby formula out of the country. As Quartz points out, that's more people than Hong Kong arrested for smuggling "dangerous drugs" in all of 2012.
This is the latest wrinkle in a story we reported on last week: Many Chinese parents are eager to buy baby formula from outside mainland China, because they worry that formula sold within the country may be unsafe.
One guy we talked to in our story goes to Hong Kong every few weeks to buy formula and other supplies for his baby, rather than buy identical products at local stores on the mainland.
Demand from parents like him caused formula shortages in Hong Kong. Earlier this year, local authorities imposed a new rule that said people leaving Hong Kong could only take two cans of formula with them. And, as the official release makes clear, the new rule has real teeth:
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The Bobcats built a 17-3 lead early despite losing starting quarterback Jackson White in the first quarter on a hard sack. White never returned to the game.
Even though backup Quinlan Washington, who also got hurt late in the game, played the majority of the game, Whittemore does not think that injuries cost his team.
"The bottom line is that both quarterbacks played well," Whittemore said. "Quinlan has got a lot of snaps this season, so it's not like he was coming in with no experience. We just got some bad breaks tonight."
The biggest problem for the Bobcats came in the form of three key turnovers caused by Fletcher (6-2, 2-1) in the second half.
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In the meantime, industry reports point out that large pharma firms have been in-licensing antisense technology, which was developed over 20 years ago. What's ironic is that antisense, just like RNAi, is intended to shut down the activity of specific genes. And similar to RNAi, antisense has had its own share of delivery problems.
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Categories: Taking the Pulse Date: Nov 13, 2013 Title: Rent-A-Center CEO Mark Speese to retireRent-A-Center announced today that Mark E. Speese, co-founder of the Company, has decided to retire from his position as Chief Executive Officer, effective January 31, 2014, after twenty-seven years of service.
Rent-A-Center announced today that Mark E. Speese, co-founder of the Company, has decided to retire from his position as Chief Executive Officer, effective January 31, 2014, after twenty-seven years of service.
The Company also announced that the Board of Directors has selected Robert D. Davis, the Company's current Chief Financial Officer, to become Chief Executive Officer on February 1, 2014. Mr. Davis also has been elected to the Company's Board, effective immediately.
"This transition is a major strategic step in our ongoing management succession process that the Board has been implementing for the past few years," Mr. Speese said. "I have worked very closely with Robert for the past twenty years and have absolute confidence in his ability to lead the Company.He has been instrumental in our success and understands all aspects of our business. As the Company continues to move into an exciting new phase of its development, the timing is right for me to pass the baton, and I am confident Robert Davis is the ideal person for the job."
Mr. Speese will continue in his role as Chairman of the Company's Board of Directors, and J. V. Lentell, the Lead Director of the Board, will relinquish that role on January 31, 2014, while remaining as a director. Mitchell E. Fadel, the Company's President and Chief Operating Officer, while maintaining that position, has relinquished his Board seat, effective immediately, thereby maintaining the Board's number of non-independent directors at its present level of two.
"I am excited to be given this opportunity and would like to thank the Board and Mark for their confidence in me," Mr. Davis added. "Mark has been an exceptional leader for the Company, and I am honored to succeed him as CEO. I am also particularly pleased that Mark will continue to serve as Chairman and that we will continue to benefit from his involvement with the Company. It will be a great help towards ensuring a successful transition."
Mr. Davis has served as the Company's Executive Vice President Finance since February 2008 and has served as the Company's Chief Financial Officer since March 1999.
The Lead Director of the Board, Mr. Lentell, stated, "The Board looks forward with confidence to the Company's future under the leadership and vision of Robert Davis. His selection from within our ranks is a testament to the management leadership of Mark Speese in the development of executive talent, and the ongoing multi-year effort of both management and the Board to augment the Company's management strength through both internal development and external additions."
Mr. Lentell further stated, "Mark Speese's dedication and contributions to the Company from its inception have been keys to our success. We are fully supportive and totally prepared for this decision on his part, and are pleased with Mark's continuing involvement with the Board."
Mr. Speese was awarded APRO's Lifetime Achievement Award in 2011 for his contributions to the rent to own industry.
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A friend of mine has a large fig plant so I decided to try this. It set up very nice, just like preserves, wasn't runny at all and we couldn't taste the figs. The little seeds made it look and feel like there were strawberries in it. My friends love it, as for me, well...It tasted more like thick strawberry Jello gelatin rather than real preserves, I asked one friend what it tasted like and he said Kool-Aid, I said close, then he guessed Jello. It is a good way to use up extra figs, I bet it is a big hit with kids.
My family has used this same recipe for about 30 years. I also use replace 1/2 the regular jellow w/ the sugar free...doesn't affect the taste, texture, or cooking time! I have made one batch w/all sugar free jello & it turned out fine. Gotta love it!
I agree with Stephie Biggs, this is excellent. I mashed my figs in the cooking pot with a potato masher. I added the full amount of sugar along with the strawberry gelatin. Mine set very nicely. They are a beautiful red and the flavor is great. You are right no one would ever guess they were made with figs. My yield was 4 8-ounce jars
EXCELLENT way to use figs. I use a blender to "mash" my figs. And, I only use 1 1/2 cups sugar in this recipe and add about 1/2 box of surejel, as it's more like a "topping" rather than a jelly without it. I did Raspberry last night and it tastes like the inside of a jelly donut! Blackberry is next.


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