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Just got booked that weekend. Unless we see a weather push, I've gone from "maybe" to "unlikely"
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Just got booked that weekend. Unless we see a weather push, I've gone from "maybe" to "unlikely"
Thanks for the tip
Love Thailand and love hammocking, but I've never had to hammock camp out there, accommodations are just so cheap. I've been to Thailand half a dozen times, and I just walk to a couple of...
Odd request, I know.
It's going to do double duty as a light diffuser on a backcountry photo project.
I'm even willing to spring for Cuben Fiber, but it has to be white and rectangular. I know...
Just to clarify, not all hand sanitizers are created equal. The concern centers around antibacterial soaps & sanitizers. The mild antibiotic properties in those are feared to be compounding the...
+1 on the hollow core webbing elastic leash.
I opened mine up & redid it with a heavier shock cord & tossed the original sad elastic.
My boy listens, but at a lean 110, any distraction would be a...
Thanks for your hard work!
Yup, forward across the shoulders.
Keep it relatively light, canines aren't load bearers, and try to find a fairly sleek pack. They can adjust to the bulk, but if it sticks out too far, it'll snag...
Ok, now I'm excited... I had totally zen-ed myself into preparing for weeks of waiting.
Now I have a chance of hanging my first under quilt in 2013!
Order #2543!!
HG is amazing!
I've sorta started backwards... Went straight to amsteel and whoopie slings thanks to these forums.
Now I'm working my way back to have better knowledge of ropes and knots.
Thanks again, much...
Hammocking has been a big motivator for me to really appreciate the skill and art of tying knots.
One question that's been bugging me is the cumulative effects of multiple knots in a single line. ...
Gah... Sorely tempted by a bigger tarp for my WBBB, but I've been saving up for a Yeti, guess I'll save a little longer. Not seeing it on sale :(
Maybe I'll luck out & see an update when I wake.
Nice, Iike the door jammed anchor!
Thanks for the vote of confidence, much appreciated.
As a freelance photographer/assistant my schedule is extremely unpredictable, so I'm hoping to manifest my appreciation for the trail and those...
Space blanket would be a big no, but it does sound like a fire trench.
Simple technique to keep warm, line a trench with rocks, burn a fire, bury it deep enough to sleep on warm ground without being...
Definitely checking that out next time I'm in Tokyo. Trip report!
I'm in the same boat... I've slept on air pads & foam in my hammock. Personally preferred the foam, but still want an under quilt. Once I pull that trigger, I think I'll keep a torso length pad in...
My schedule would never let me hit it in one go. But I'm hoping to bag a few key sections piece by piece.
1st, find out which she prefers.
From my personal experience, "whatever you decide honey," only lasts the 1st night.
That hexamid looks pretty nice, it's a cuben clone of my Nemo Meta 2p. Right...
The Big Agnes sleep system worked ok for me, but I'm a wriggler & always end up at the edge of the pad with a cold spot a some point.
Great post! All the crawlers make hanging that much the better option.
Almost got a full passport, but have yet to make it down under.
I guessestimate now, but the app definitely helped me figure out my geometry in the beginning
[QUOTE=Shug;1133695]Oh .I got a down suit))))))
(Sorry, geek impulse)
Fresh, white ash from the campfire works great for me. (Natural source of lye). My friends always think I'm crazy, then they try it & everyone ends up washing with ash.
I'll finish that off with...
Adding right now!
My body can never decide if it wants to sleep hot or cold. In addition to the tried and true hot water bottle, instant Heat Packs always buy a few degrees when I get colder than expected. Sleeping...
Sounds like a blast. Unfortunately I'm freelance and rarely know my schedule more than 2 weeks in advance.
Maybe I'll get lucky.
Anxiety aside.
Nothing puts me to sleep better than logging some decent trail miles & a pull of grandpa's cough syrup.
Also relax more when I'm camping with friends... I figure the ground...
Welcome. So Cal is a great place to hang.
I'll 2nd that... Or at least suggest a variation.
Bag the pistol, or at least pack it in a way that you can't wake up with it in hand.
Sounds like a straight fight/flight wake up. Your body might...
Glad you guys enjoyed, I'm working my way up from "lurker" status.
As one who's been lurking about trying to pull the trigger on an UQ... You'd have no trouble posting it for sale.
In fact, consider me your first interested party! :-)
Forgot to mention; that nice patch of "fall color" at :45 is actually a huge bush of pure poison oak. It was everywhere on this trail. Definitely limited some of the hanging options.
Quick overnight on a new trail.
A couple buddies and I made a quick midweek overnight up the Bear Creek trail; just 1 mile in along the San Gabriel River's West Fork to the trailhead.
I was...
+1 on hung low's link.
I usual print it 4 to a page, cut 'Em up and drop them into each kit (overnight, backpack & car camp)
So Cal here. Manage to find a tree or 2.
Fry up that spam right by the fire, toss it into some Mac n cheese. One of my fave campfire staples.
The best analogy I've heard for allergies came from my father, an allergist who is still practicing medicine at 75.
Allergic reactions are like a glass of water, you keep adding water to the...
Just stumbled across this thread.
Simply awesome logo
I'd dig a patch but would LOVE a bandana. Multi purpose!
Just finished a new trail. The Bear Creek trail off of the San Gabriel River West Fork. Definitely not heavily traveled; we kept on losing the main trail to brush & rocks but it's a relatively narrow...
Oops, forgot to mention you need a campfire permit before up ignite anything.
Easiest way is online & print it small (I do 4 to a page, slap some packing tape on as a laminate). ...
Hey David,
Sespe area in Ojai is probably my favorite secluded escape. Lots of opportunities to explore. Unfortunately the area is still in extreme fire danger & stoves are not currently allowed. ...
Love this guy, but he's slowing down now. Helps me more on test hangs than treks.
At 110 lbs, always slept soundly with him there.
Haha! Still think it's more of a Jampocide. But Jampoline works so long as it's trademarked by Kevorkian.
I'm usually about 8 miles in for my first camp. Even deeper on a multi day.
At that point I'm clear of most day hikers & never leave camp for more than a couple hours. Figure the odds of someone...
Hm, I foresee a body count. Doesn't matter how many disclaimers, I'm sure some Darwin Award candidates will want to ride up top off-road.
I took my Warbonnet Blackbird through the jungles in Costa Rica. I'm tall so the extra room was much appreciated. Also gave me a bit more breathing room inside. I tried the Hennessy SUL, but felt a...
I've never had the gall to do it, but I did see this article.
Good thread...
Not a bad idea to print out TSA's regulations, I used to do that when I traveled with film. Technically, I had the right to request hand inspections of professional film... They...
I made some loops from leftover Amsteel (there's a write up somewhere in the forums).
They make it easy to shorten the hang with a larks head (girth hitch?) around the end of the hammock extend the...


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A very very very very sexy person, that every person on the opposite sex desires
wow! look at that sexy person, he must be Burak
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Cranswick plc
|Public (LSE: CWK)
|Hull, UK
Key people
|Martin Davey, (Chairman)
Adam Couch, (CEO)
Mark Bottomley (Group Finance Director)
Jim Brisby (Group Commercial Director)
|£1003.3 million (2015)[1]
|£53.7 million (2015)[1]
|£41.3 million (2015)[1]
Number of employees
Cranswick plc is a leading UK food producer and supplier of premium, fresh and added-value food products. The company is listed on the London Stock Exchange and is a constituent of the FTSE 250 Index.
Cranswick was founded by Jim Bloom, Mike Field and twenty-one other East Riding of Yorkshire farmers producing pig feed in 1974 under the name Cranswick Mill. The company subsequently diversified into food production. It was first listed on the London Stock Exchange in 1985.[2] In 1993 Cranswick diversified into pet products with the purchase of George Buckton and then, in 2009, sold its pet products business. [3] The company has recently moved back to breeding and rearing its own British pigs after acquiring East Anglian Pigs Limited and livestock and assets from Dent Ltd in 2013. [4]
Cranswick has developed through a combination of acquisitions and subsequent organic growth, enabling the company to build upon its philosophy of working with artisan producers to provide premium, market leading products to a much wider audience. The Company now serves its customers from twelve production facilities across the UK.[5]
- 2001: Continental Fine Foods[6]
- 2003: Cranswick plc acquires The Sandwich Factory
- 2005: Perkins Chilled Foods[7]
- 2006: Delico, a cooked meats producer[8]
- 2009: Bowes of Norfolk[9]
- 2012: Kingston Foods, a cooked meats business [10]
- 2013: East Anglian Pigs Ltd and Dent Ltd, pig rearing businesses [11]
- 2014: Benson Park, a premium cooked poultry business [12]
Cranswick produces fresh pork, gourmet sausages, cooked meat, air-dried bacon, premium cooked poultry, charcuterie, sandwiches and gourmet pastry products. [13]
The Company's brands include Bodega, Weight Watchers, Woodall's, Simply Sausages, Red Lion Foods and the Black Farmer.[14]
Cranswick's core market is the UK but the company has a rapidly developing export business serving the European, US and South East Asian markets. [15]
Operational Highlights[edit]
Operational highlights for the year ended 31 March 2015:
- Acquired Benson Park Limited,a leading producer of premium British cooked poultry[16]
- £21 million investment in the Group's asset based[16]
- Extension of the Delico cooked meats facility in Milton Keynes completed on time and to budget[16]
- Major upgrade to the Norfolk fresh pork site[16]
- 23 per cent growth in non-EU export sales[16]
- ^ a b c "Preliminary Results 2015" (PDF). Cranswick. Retrieved 25 June 2015.
- ^ London Stock Exchange: Case studies
- ^ Cranswick Mill Group acquires George Buckton Thomson M&A, 29 June 1993
- ^ Cranswick expands pig farming The Telegraph, 20 May 2014
- ^ "Preliminary Results 2013" (PDF). Cranswick. Retrieved 26 March 2015.
- ^ Cranswick plc acquires Continental Fine Foods Thomson M&A, 30 July 2001
- ^ Cranswick buys division of Perkins Foods The Grocer, 21 December 2004
- ^ Cranswick buys cooked meats producer Delico for £17.9m Europe Intelligence Wire, 2 November 2006
- ^ Cranswick snaps up Bowes of Norfolk The Grocer, 6 April 2009
- ^ Cranswick profits from 'quick service' trade The Telegraph, 3 July 2012
- ^ Cranswick snaps up East Anglian Pigs Meat Info, 30 April 2013
- ^ Cranswick gobbles up Yorkshire cooked poultry product firm City A.M., 24 October 2014
- ^ Bloomberg: Cranswick Company Profile Bloomberg, Retrieved 9 April 2015
- ^ Financial Times: Cranswick plc Financial Times, Retrieved 9 April 2015
- ^ Hull food firm Cranswick sets sights on Asia sales Hull Daily Mail, 8 April 2014
- ^ a b c d e "Preliminary Results 2013" (PDF). Cranswick. Retrieved 26 March 2015.


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Q: How much can West Antarctica plausibly contribute to sea level rise by 2100?
A. 3 to 5 feet — contributing to an increasingly likely total sea level rise of more than 5 feet by 2100, a rise that will be all but impossible to stop if we don't sharply reverse CO2 emissions trends within a decade or so.
West Antarctica's collapsing ice shelves are in the news today. This post will survey what we now know about this unstable ice sheet and the threat it poses to humanity — or is that the threat humanity poses to it? — if we continue on our current suicidal emissions path.
Antarctica is disintegrating much faster than almost anybody imagined. In 2001, the IPCC "consensus" said neither Greenland nor Antarctica would lose significant mass by 2100. They both already are. As Penn State climatologist Richard Alley said in March 2006, the ice sheets appear to be shrinking "100 years ahead of schedule."
A 2007 study found "The current loss of mass from the Amundsen Sea embayment of the West Antarctic ice sheet [WAIS] is equivalent to that from the entire Greenland ice sheet" (see the new survey report Antarctic Climate Change and the Environment draft here). And WAIS's 2007's ice loss was 75% higher than 2006's (see "The Antarctic ice sheet hits the fan").
On Saturday, Reuters reported on a major new study on Antarctic ice shelves, "Coastal-Change and Glaciological Map of the Larsen Ice Shelf Area, Antarctica: 1940-2005":
One Antarctic ice shelf has quickly vanished, another is disappearing and glaciers are melting faster than anyone thought due to climate change, U.S. and British government researchers reported on Friday.
They said the Wordie Ice Shelf, which had been disintegrating since the 1960s, is gone and the northern part of the Larsen Ice Shelf no longer exists. More than 3,200 square miles (8,300 square km) have broken off from the Larsen shelf since 1986.
Climate change is to blame, according to the report from the U.S. Geological Survey and the British Antarctic Survey, available at pubs.usgs.gov/imap/2600/B.
"The rapid retreat of glaciers there demonstrates once again the profound effects our planet is already experiencing — more rapidly than previously known — as a consequence of climate change," U.S. Interior Secretary Ken Salazar said in a statement.
"This continued and often significant glacier retreat is a wakeup call that change is happening … and we need to be prepared," USGS glaciologist Jane Ferrigno, who led the Antarctica study, said in a statement.
"Antarctica is of special interest because it holds an estimated 91 percent of the Earth's glacier volume, and change anywhere in the ice sheet poses significant hazards to society," she said.
In a remarkable example of the accelerating nature of human-caused climate change, the UK Telegraph reports today:
Satellite images have revealed that a 25 mile long strip of ice, which is believed to have pinned the Wilkins Ice Shelf in place since the beginning of recorded history, had broken at its narrowest point.
Without it, ice will be able to flow more freely between Charcot and Latady islands on the western side of the Antarctic, eventually moving into the open seas.
The Wilkins, the size of Jamaica or half the size of Scotland, is the largest of 10 shelves to have shrunk or collapsed in recent years on the Antarctic Peninsula amid rising temperatures in the region.
You can see a video of the demise here.
The ice shelf has lost a total of 694 square miles – or some 14 per cent of its size – over the past year, which shrank the ice bridge to under 546 yards as its narrowest point….
Ice shelves, some of them hundreds of miles thick [wide], float on the water and contract as they melt, so breakages will not directly raise sea levels.
However, research has shown that when ice shelves are removed, the glaciers and landed ice behind them start to move towards the ocean more rapidly, which will add to the amount of water in the seas.
Antarctic temperatures have risen by up to about 3 Celsius (5.4 Fahrenheit) in the past 50 years, the fastest increase in the southern hemisphere [see "Antarctica has warmed significantly over past 50 years, revisited"].
It is really the warming of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet (WAIS) that you should worry about (at least for this century) because it's going to disintegrate long before the East Antarctic Ice Sheet does "" since WAIS appears to be melting from underneath (i.e. the water is warming, too), and since, as I wrote in the "high water" part of my book, the WAIS is inherently less stable:
Perhaps the most important, and worrisome, fact about the WAIS is that it is fundamentally far less stable than the Greenland ice sheet because most of it is grounded far below sea level. The WAIS rests on bedrock as deep as two kilometers underwater. One 2004 NASA-led study found that most of the glaciers they were studying "flow into floating ice shelves over bedrock up to hundreds of meters deeper than previous estimates, providing exit routes for ice from further inland if ice-sheet collapse is under way." A 2002 study in Science examined the underwater grounding lines-the points where the ice starts floating. Using satellites, the researchers determined that "bottom melt rates experienced by large outlet glaciers near their grounding lines are far higher than generally assumed." And that melt rate is positively correlated with ocean temperature.
The warmer it gets, the more unstable WAIS outlet glaciers will become. Since so much of the ice sheet is grounded underwater, rising sea levels may have the effect of lifting the sheets, allowing more-and increasingly warmer-water underneath it, leading to further bottom melting, more ice shelf disintegration, accelerated glacial flow, and further sea level rise, and so on and on, another vicious cycle. The combination of global warming and accelerating sea level rise from Greenland could be the trigger for catastrophic collapse in the WAIS (see, for instance, here).
You can read every thing a laymen could possibly want to know about what the recent study on Antarctic warming does and doesn't show at RealClimate here. Andy Revkin blogs on the NYT coverage of the study with expert commentary here.
Now a couple of new papers published by Nature in March have been portrayed as suggesting the WAIS as a whole may be stabler than was previously thought. Yet the first paper, "Obliquity-paced Pliocene West Antarctic ice sheet oscillations" (subs. req'), concludes:
Our data provide direct evidence for orbitally induced oscillations in the WAIS, which periodically collapsed, resulting in a switch from grounded ice, or ice shelves, to open waters in the Ross embayment when planetary temperatures were up to
3 °C warmer than today and atmospheric CO2 concentration was as high as 400 p.p.m.v.
We'll be at 400 ppm by 2020. We're on track to be more than 5°C warmer by 2100. So the first paper doesn't seem terribly reassuring.
The second paper by Pollard and DeConto (the one that got all the attention), "Modelling West Antarctic ice sheet growth and collapse through the past five million years," (subs. req'), notes, "Recent melt rates under small Antarctic ice shelves are inferred to be increasing dramatically" and concluded:
… the WAIS will begin to collapse when nearby ocean temperatures warm by roughly 5 °C. Global climate and regional ocean modelling is needed to predict when and if future ocean temperatures and melt rates under the major Antarctic ice shelves will increase by these amounts, and if so, for how long.
Are you reassured yet?
I would note that West Antarctica land temperatures have risen up to 3°C over the past 50 years — some 4 times what the planet as a whole has warmed. And both Hadley and MIT say the planet will warm more than 5°C by 2100, with a 10% chance of warming more than 7°C (see M.I.T. doubles its projection of global warming by 2100 to 5.1°C and "Hadley Center warns of "Catastrophic" 5-7°C warming by 2100 on current emissions path. And while the ocean warms less than the nearby land, the new study Antarctic Climate Change and the Environment warns: "UP TO one-third of all Antarctic sea ice is likely to melt by the end of the century." So we may yet see polar amplifacation near the South Pole (see "What exactly is polar amplification and why does it matter?").
Dr. Robert Bindschadler of NASA, who has been an active Antarctic field researcher for the past 25 years, commented on the new study (here):
I'm familiar with the Pollard/DeConto work. They previewed it last fall at an annual science workshop I organize on West Antarctic research. Their model lacks the detail to get the fastest dynamic responses, so the 0.5m/century rate for sea level rise should only be viewed as a lower bound (and a poor one, at that).
Their model is better at getting the longer-term quasi-equilibrium response (it just takes their model a little longer to get there), so it 's very interesting that they demonstrate the sensitivity to the ocean temperature. That thinking is certainly where Antarctic scientists are being led by both data and models.
Moreover, the entire WAIS need not collapse for it to contribute to catastrophic sea level rise this century.
The Antarctic Peninsula alone contains "a total volume of 95,200 km3 (equivalent to 242 mm of sea-level; Pritchard and Vaughan, 2007), roughly half that of all glaciers and ice caps outside of either Greenland or Antarctica" (see Chapter 5 here) — that would be more than 9 inches of sea level rise from a region of WAIS losing its protective ice shelves on both sides at an alarming pace.
But it is westernmost part of WAIS, that borders on the Amundsen Sea, that may be the most worrisome, as AP reported this year:
Glaciers in Antarctica are melting faster and across a much wider area than previously thought, a development that threatens to raise sea levels worldwide and force millions of people to flee low-lying areas, scientists said Wednesday.
Researchers once believed that the melting was limited to the Antarctic Peninsula, a narrow tongue of land pointing toward South America. But satellite data and automated weather stations now indicate it is more widespread.
The melting "also extends all the way down to what is called west Antarctica," said Colin Summerhayes, executive director of the Britain-based Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research.
"That's unusual and unexpected," he told the Associated Press in an interview.
By the end of the century, the accelerated melting could cause sea levels to climb by 3 to 5 feet "" levels substantially higher than predicted by a major scientific group just two years ago.
Making matters worse, scientists said, the ice shelves that hold the glaciers back from the sea are also weakening.
The report Wednesday from Geneva was a broad summary of two years of research by scientists from 60 countries. Some of the findings were released in earlier reports….
The biggest of the western glaciers, the Pine Island Glacier, is moving 40% faster than it was in the 1970s, discharging water and ice more rapidly into the ocean, said Summerhayes, a member of International Polar Year's steering committee.
The Smith Glacier, also in west Antarctica, is moving 83% faster than in 1992, he said.
The glaciers are slipping into the sea faster because the floating ice shelf that would normally stop them "" usually 650 to 980 feet thick "" is melting. And the glaciers' discharge is making a significant contribution to increasing sea levels.
So we have the serious potential for 3 to 5 feet of sea level rise just from WAIS this century — and that is on top of whatever we get from thermal expansion of the ocean and Greenland. And on top of whatever we get from the melting of the inland glaciers, whose contribution was recently increased:
New research published this month in the journal Geophysical Research Letters found that melting glaciers will add at least 7 inches to the world's sea level "" and that's if carbon dioxide pollution is quickly capped and then reduced.
Far more likely is an increase of at least 15 inches and probably more just from melting glaciers, the journal said.
So it increasingly looks like we are facing a very serious risk of more than 5 feet of total sea level rise by 2100 on our current emissions path.
But this is almost not news anymore — see Startling new sea level rise research: "Most likely" 0.8 to 2.0 meters by 2100. Indeed, an important Science article from 2007 used empirical data from last century to project that sea levels could be up to 5 feet higher in 2100 and rising 6 inches a decade (see Inundated with Information on Sea Level Rise. Another 2007 study from Nature Geoscience came to the same conclusion (see "Sea levels may rise 5 feet by 2100"). Leading experts in the field have a similar view (see "Amazing AP article on sea level rise" and "Report from AGU meeting: One meter sea level rise by 2100 "very likely" even if warming stops?"). Even a major report signed off on by the Bush administration itself was forced to concede that the IPCC numbers are simply too out of date to be quoted anymore (see US Geological Survey stunner: Sea-level rise in 2100 will likely "substantially exceed" IPCC projections).
Did I mention the time to act is now!
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- JPL's new climate website: Yes, sea level rise has accelerated
34 Responses to Q: How much can West Antarctica plausibly contribute to sea level rise by 2100?
Obvious the ice cannot be hundreds of kilometers thick. Should be wdie.
Pine Island and Thalles glaciers are especially worrisome as both are speeding up, lack much buttressing and extend belonw sea level. Somewhere I read a comment by a glaciologist the this pair of glaciers alone could contribute 1.5 meters of SLR, with much of that by 2050 CE, only forty years away.
[JR: Pine Island drains into Amundsen sea — so yes, it is part of the 3 to 5 feet SLR.]
The issue for all of Antarctica proper (I don't know about the Ppennisula) is the sea water temperatures; the air is almost always cold enough not to cause melting.
Greenland is less stable than you seem to think; once breakup extends far enough island Greenalnd itself is below sea level so it is possible that the ice sheet could collapse much faster at that time. I've only seen speculation about this facet.
Were facing more than just a risk of >5ft.
The impression one has is that this is going to be a gradual increase.
Well it won't be. There will be sudden increase over short periods as the ice breaks up. And this might start sooner than we think.
Psychologically, 3 to 5 feet SLR will not be enough to worry most people. The average person will be dead in about 50 years and, unless they live in Bangladesh, Florida or Beijing, probably think they won't be affected.
I'm not trying to dismiss the importance, just explain the apathy. Also – why focus on 2100? Under BAU climate change is just getting into its stride and the effects get far worse in the centuries that follow.
Engaging the current generation in problems that affect later generations (and people in the poorer parts of the world) is the biggest challenge. In An Inconvenient Truth Al Gore describes climate change as a moral issue, although he does not explain why. I think this is the reason.
[JR: 3 to 5 feet is just the SLR from the WAIS. 2100 is the standard projection date — but I should add a note that it will be all but impossible to stop such sea level rise if we don't sharply reverse emissions trends within a decade or so.]
And for all this I can't help but feel that sea level rise will be among the least of our troubles. I'm more worried about droughts and desertification, because that starts to cut into our ability to grow food.
[JR: Lots of coastal land is used for crops — and don't forget salt water infiltration. And 100,000,000 refugees have to flee to somewhere. I'd equate SLR and desertification about as worrisome.]
What me worry? It's all connected. Much food is grown in fertile river deltas that, even if not inundated by rising seas, will have salt water pollute the ground water in agricultural lands.
Change is never linear. I compare it to my wrinkles. I will go along more or less the same for several years and then suddenly, I notice I look frighteningly more like my mother!
I'm realizing for most people Greenland, the Arctic, and Antarctica are just too abstract to intrude on their reality. I've heard anecdotal evidence of warming effects much closer to home in California.
One staff member at the Tamarack Cross-Country Ski Resort (sister resort to Mammoth [Downhill] Ski Resort) reports changes in recent years. Mosquitos, which used to be confined to below 10,000 ft elevation are now found at 11,000 ft. Snow used to accumulate at the base of the mountain, at 4,000 feet elevation, but no longer. The mountain pine beetle has been found in recent years, and is devastating the Lodgepole Pine population.
Tamarack and Mammoth Resorts are in the Eastern Sierra, which supplies much of the fresh water supply for Central California farming and for drinking water in Southern California. My backpacking trips through the Sierras show how much plant and animal life is supported by the year round water supply of the Sierras (in the form of glaciers and snow pack). My drives through the desert to get to these trips show just how dependent we are on the Sierras. If the Sierra snow pack were to disappear, we would have alternating flooding and drought in the valleys below.
To help get current climate change effects on people's minds, we need to spend a little more effort on reporting changes that are closer to people's lives.
Wonhyo, I so agree.
It amazes me how blind people are to what is happening right before their very eyes. I have tried to point out to many individuals current deleterious effects of climate change, and other than rare exceptions, I get a blank stare or collective shrug in response.
I think it is because, to follow the evidence to its logical result, is utterly devastating.
Rather than do so, the vast majority choose blindness.
This will only work for so long, however. And soon, we will all have to reflect on the consequences of our profligate squandering of fossil fuels.
Not sure if you're aware, but the Telegraph has a strong history of ACC denial, e.g. http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2009/feb/25/climate-change-denial-christopher-booker – and they're still at it http://bit.ly/13Z8U
It would be nice to see them not get any traffic from the climate realists (or anywhere else!).
Gail, you're so right. I find even those sophisticated enough to acknowledge climate change on a global scale find it hard to connect the global changes to local impacts. If people really understood that global climate changes means local food and water shortages, would people really go on with life as usual, without taking concrete steps toward climate action?
We need more grassroots activism, covering portions of the population that intellectual sites like Climate Progress don't easily reach. I've started introducing climate change and energy issues as part of the "Earth Stewardship" ministry at my church. I think we need to get the religious institutions on board the climate progress movement (before it is completely hijacked by the Religious[ly denialist] Right). There is a large portion of our population that may never "get" the science, but will follow the direction of their religious leaders.
I don't often introduce religious language into my climate/energy activism, but from a religious point of view, the ability to understand our impacts (and produce working solutions) through science is a gift from God, and we are compelled to use these gifts in our stewardship of God's Kingdom. [Translate to the language of any religion, and I believe the resulting imperative will be the same.]
You bring up some interesting points, and I'd like to hear more about how your work is going… I'm wondering how best to reach religious men and women so that more will join the climate change movement because I think that's one of the few ways we might reach people who typically vote Republican (with apologies for that huge generalization). It would be nice to bring some progressive conservatives into the debate.
I've been planning to get in touch with Stop Climate Chaos Coalition after noting that a serious piece of climate legislation is expected to be passed in Scotland. And I'm wondering if this could be due to the fact that environmental groups and religious groups are working together in common purpose.
After looking at the MONTHLY average sea ice trends on the NSIDC website… my curiosity got to me about the published percentage of growth or shrinkage of sea ice at the poles.
The monthly trend graph as of March 31 shows that the Arctic is shrinking at a rate of -2.7% per decade, and now the Antarctic growing at the rate of +4.7% per decade.
I imported the actual published data tables used for the NSIDC graphs. There are about 350 data points for the nearly 30 years of monthly averages of each type of ice trend: Arctic Extent, Arctic Area, Antarctic Extent, Antarctic Area.
Unless my spreadsheet and trend graphs are radically incorrect because of some typo or bad import of their data, I got different results from their graphs.
First off, the GLOBAL averages over all 12 months of the year are as follows:
Extent: 15.05 million sq. kilometers (both poles averaged)
Area: 18.55 million square kilometers
But in graphing the trends, I got even more curious results that show a definite 30-year downward trend in global sea ice since the 1979 satellite data commenced, as follows:
Global Ice Area decline of 4.3 % in the last 30 years (1.4 % per decade)
Global Ice Extent decline of 3.3 % in 30 years (1.1 % per decade)
This included the 2006-2007 minimums in the averages, which did impact the trend. Obviously this does not include thickness.
What does this mean if my numbers are correct? It means that if the climate trend continues, it will take around 750 to 900 years or so for the poles to be ice free assuming the entire globe heats up for the next millenium. But somehow, I don't think this is gonna happen considering natural cycles of little ice ages that occur from time to time. And of course, the south pole has been trending up almost constantly. Why don't you look at the ice GAINS in Antarctica, and even the recovery at the Arctic which is still going on in March, unexpectedly.
News flash: the past couple weeks Utah added another 12 feet of snow to the mountains! Wow!
Richard – Can I get in touch with you through the contact email address at the Web page your comments link to? If not, perhaps the Climate Progress Web admin can help us exchange emails privately.
My efforts at my church are in their nascency. As with many churches, my church membership is declining. I offered climate issues as a way to return the Church to social relevance. This coincided with my church's decision to create an Earth Stewardship Group. Surprisingly, my pastor (and previous two pastors over 10 years) are very sophisticated in their views of climate/energy and spirituality, but limited in what they can preach from the pulpit. I am successful in engaging several senior church members in an on-going discussion of climate and energy issues. Bottom line is, it will take a grassroots effort to engage the Church in the climate/energy discussion.
Predictably, there are a few vocal deniers, but I'm encouraged to receive more encouragement than denial. If my church is any example, it will just take some initiative to start an on-going dialogue on spirituality and climate progress. It's taking a lot of work, but the potential payoff in preaching to the [church] choir is very promising, as people like JR are already doing a great job at preaching to the secular choir.
Climate Progress: Please send RL my email address.
Sure, you can reach me there… That would be great!
And Joy… That's a laughably bad analysis. I think you're just trying to put us on!
Along this theme, Wonyo and Richard… JoeR, is there some way since you are revamping up the blog anyway, that those of us commenters and readers can have exchanges more easily? I spend too much time revisiting old posts to see responses to my comments and answer them, and find myself keeping track of the number of replies to see if I should scroll down to read a new one…
It's just a bit cumbersome, and I am not website or blog savvy, but perhaps you know of a better and more efficient way for your readers to relate?
Joy Rider — Globe will certainly heat up for a millennium (and more), but not linearly. Arctic ice will continue to decline, but not linearly. Sea levels will continue to rise, but not linearly.
Wonhyo, I would be very interested to see your progress in moving your church to action on climate change. I think the involvement of people of faith could make a serious difference in the fight against climate change. There are certainly religious leaders who understand our dire plight. Case in point: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7964880.stm
If we could move people to change their energy behavior by appealing to their faith, we could work powerful changes. My faith is certainly part of why I want to help combat global warming.
The responses to this post give me the most cause for hope since I first began reading this blog. As a Florida resident, I often feel that none of my neighbors really cares, at best, or soaks up the Faux News hype and thinks that climate change is a myth (or an excuse to implement socialism). The thing is that for efforts to really have an impact, we have to reach these many millions of people, and bring them on board to demand change. Let's face it, scientific blogs simply don't have the influence of talk radio. That's why I am glad to hear that Wonhyo and others are bringing this to their churches, and that we are finally beginning to reach out to all people everywhere. Let's hope it works.
Very unfortunate that there are those denying the climate science as AGW is intensifying (as evidenced by empirical evidence) and, we are not close to ensuring a sustainable energy future while securing our food and water supplies and protecting the environment – and mitigating AGW. What are Rs thinking!
Re: churches & climate change
My brother sent me a good sermon on climate change that the minister gave at his Unitarian church several months ago. I can share.
Also, we are piloting a science based grassroots effort in our community. The syllabus includes many short videos & interactive sites that can spur discussions.
Florida is probably the worst place to be an AGW denier, because it's going to start going underwater faster than any other place in the country, or even on the North American continent.
Those deniers are going to be in for one hell of a shock in about three decades.
Joy , has that snow melted yet?
you might want to consider very carefully when you decide to sellup in florida. Its not when the SLR start happening but its when everyone realize its going to and suddenly no one wants to buy florida and everyone wants to sell there.
you have probably 2 – 5 yrs before this happens.
Hi Joe,
Wasn't there a study in the last year or so that claimed sea-level rise would not rise evenly around the globe at first and it would take time to equalize. I recall something about the Atlantic being more vulnerable to early sea level rise then other parts of the globe. Am I mistaken or have you heard of this study?
[JR: That is the first of the "related studies."]
Among the limited upsides, we could probably cover a sunken Florida with mangrove trees. We could set up whole new ecosystems.
I just recently watched a stunningly visual NOVA program called Extreme Ice it was a three year time laps study of the Greenland Glaciers. It was the scariest thing I've seen yet on the Cryoshere. I could not help but feel that we are walking the edge of the tipping point for Ice on our planet. Once we cross this one all the rest will follow in quick time. For me it is the number of points we are on the verge of crossing, any of which could start a cascade. Gradual is not how the Climate Changes. As Richard Alley puts it, climate lurches it doesn't glide.
Wonhyo, Richard, and anyone else;
I was on the board of a group that produced a 4 day interfaith environmental festival in Seattle last year.
It inspired one of the leaders of the Episcopal Church in America to declare his commitment to halving greenhouse emissions in the church in a decade. 500 people stood and cheered.
If the commitment is profound, or appropriate for the challenge, people will respond.
Don't worry if your membership is declining. The moment you assume a prophetic task your ranks will swell. Just make it grand.
god! we have to take action. i guess it's already late, but we have to do something about it!!
Joe says: [JR: That is the first of the "related studies."]
Thanks Joe, I shouldn't post comments so late at night :-)
Arctic sea ice thinnest ever going into spring, AP, 4/6/09
"WASHINGTON – The Arctic is treading on thinner ice than ever before.
"U.S researchers say that as spring arrives, more than 90 percent of the sea ice in the Arctic is only one or two years old. That makes it thinner and more vulnerable than ever before, according to researchers with NASA and the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Colorado. That is the type of ice that is more likely to melt in the summer."
I agree Nova's Extreme Ice is a must see.
Susan, should be an interesting summer.
The problem is that none of these ice forecasts are based on models that have been extensively tested and validated by observation. These are "fat tailed" forecasts as discussed in ON MODELING AND INTERPRETING THE ECONOMICS OF CATASTROPHIC CLIMATE CHANGE by Martin L. Weitzman, and at this point we cannot dismiss the uncertainty of the forecasts. Dr. Weitzman says very smart things about environmental data.
Given the history of climatology, we tend to look down on ice, when in fact the source of heat threatening the WAIS is the ocean at the base of the ice which is hard to see from above. Consider http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/SST/data/anomnight.4.6.2009.gif and go back and look at the April sea surface temperature anomalies along the west coast of the Antarctic Peninsula for the last 10 years. What I see is that for the last 10 years that patch of water has been warmer than it was in the previous climate regimes, and this worries me because the difference between salt water that keeps fresh water ice intact; and, salt water that melts fresh water ice is only a fraction of a degree. The WAIS is sitting in thousands of feet of salt water. Despite the support from the water, that ice is highly stressed. If the surrounding salt water warms a fraction of a degree, then the ice is not likely to maintain structural strength, and is likely to collapse.
I am going out on a limb here and suggest that current models of WAIS overestimate its stability in the same way that models of Arctic sea ice over predicted Arctic sea ice stability just 5 years ago. Those Arctic ice models were off by an order of magnitude. Any risk management model for sea level rise that does not frankly acknowledge that the forecasts of sea level rise may be off by an order of magnitude is merely wishful thinking.
Re: Pollard (2009) paper, WAIS collapse
The estimate in the Pollard paper of WAIS collapse after 5C rise in nearby ocean T relies on a modelled estimate by Beckham and Goosse that explicitly excludes ice shelf breakup.
As the various shelf collapses show, breakup is manifest. So I would not take comfort with the 5C number or the 1000 year timescale. The measured rise of ocean T under the iceshelves now is 0.2 C and they collapse.
I think Bindschadler is absolutely correct when he says that 1000 yr is an upper limit.
This is a great article and something that I don't think the majority of people are taking serious enough when talking about global warming. If all of these facts weren't so unknown I think that the world's leaders would be much more responsive to efforts to help combat climate change. Here's a short video clip about the story:
The notion expressed in the linked post that the "West Antarctic ice sheet collapse [will be] even more catastrophic for U.S. coasts" is problematic, I think.
The UNEP Year Book 2009, Ch 3 says:
"From the Greenland ice sheet, most of the water would initially stay in the Atlantic. Fifty years after release, sea level rise would be thirty times greater in parts of the North Atlantic, including the gulf of Mexico, than in the Pacific. Similarly, the study found that water from a collapsed Antarctic ice sheet would swamp coastlines in the southern hemisphere, while being barely measurable in the northern hemisphere for at least 50 years (Stammer 2008)."
The Stammer study is behind the pay wall, but there is a blog post here that does quite nicely.
The map there shows that the water piles up along the US coastline. bad news for New York, as well as Florida, but the upside is that if New York is threatened the world will act.
Irrespective of the actual rise this century, the SLR will continue to increase over the coming centuries.
If we plan to cope with a 5 meter rise over the next 100 years, then the worst that would happen is that we would be marginally premature. Perhaps we should have contingency plans to cope with a 10 m rise.
Where new infrastructure has an expected life over 100 years then we really do need to look at the higher levels.
There are so many unknowns that we are only guessing and the models are so conservative that we are almost certainly guessing low. I am glad that I live 60 meters above sea level.


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OPINION: Radical change is required to get out of Japan's minus growth of 12.7%
Japan's real GDP growth rate fell at an annual rate of 12.7 percent in the 4th quarter of 2008. Its total exports fell at the sharpest pace on record. Capital investment and personal consumption also declined.
Funding in economic recovery plan should create jobs for unemployed minorities
President Obama aims to create or save 3.5 million jobs over the next two years by spending some of the money in the recently-enacted stimulus plan on modernizing the nation's roads and bridges, investing in public transportation, and making federal office buildings more energy-efficient.
What a recession means for Black America
Recessions hurt. And they hurt the poor and socially marginalized populations the most. As we face the prospect of the second recession of the decade and consider the merits of various stimulus packages, it is useful to examine what a recession would mean for black America.
Guess what? The New Deal worked!
Since the economic crisis we're now in is being compared to the Great Depression, the solutions being offered are being routinely compared to the New Deal. Republicans in particular have been quick to pronounce the New Deal a failure as a way of justifying their opposition to the new stimulus package and any other federal response to our new Great Depression.
Obama economic plan signed into law
US President Barack Obama signed his hard-fought stimulus plan into law on Tuesday in the hope that the huge injection of public funds will cushion the collapsing US economy.
Advocacy groups fear new wave of homeless
ATLANTA, Georgia, 5 Feb (IPS) - Homeless advocates in the United States say if the new Congress and the Barack Obama administration do nothing, many more low-income people already teetering on the brink could end up living on the streets over the next two years.
Decisive week for Obama's anti-crisis measures
Washington, (Prensa Latina) This will be a decisive week for US President Barack Obama to have his controversial economic rescue plan approved and to tour the south of the United States.
600,000 jobs lost: How bad does it have to get for Republicans to act?
Original source: With today's unemployment report showing nearly 600,000 jobs lost in January—worsening the U.S. unemployment rate from 7.2 percent to 7.6 percent—will obstructionist Republicans in Congress finally move the economic recovery bill?
Crunch hits Germany
Reposted from Morning Star GERMANY is facing a dire economic crisis. Following the collapse of Lehman Brothers in the United States last September, it became apparent that German banks also had large amounts of toxic real estate credits in their portfolios.
January layoff rates soar
The US private sector cut 522,000 jobs in January. The private consulting firm Automatic Data Processing (ADP), number layoffs in manufacturing at 243,000 and 279,000 in services. ADP says large companies slashed 92,000 jobs, mid-size companies 255,000 and small companies lost 175,000.


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World athletics championships host Russia on Monday rejected claims that it was soft on doping, saying the exposure of a spate of high-profile cheats was due to a stepping up of testing.
A number of Russian athletes, including 2004 Olympic hammer champion Olga Kuzenkova, have been banned in recent months for doping violations, prompting calls in some quarters for Moscow to be stripped of its right to host the championships this year.
But Russian athletics federation chief Valentin Balakhnichev told AFP in an exclusive interview that Russia had dramatically changed its approach in the fight against doping.
"Three years ago the national anti-doping agency RUSADA was created to keep the use of drugs in sports under control," Balakhnichev said.
"It changed the situation radically as the Russian sports ministry upgraded the technical equipment of Moscow's anti-doping laboratory up to the highest modern standards and increased the level of its staff's skills."
"Now it is paying off, as the laboratory is not only testing but also regularly working out new methods of analysis that are currently used worldwide."
Russia is in the spotlight in the fight against doping as it prepares to host the world athletics championships in August in Moscow and then the Winter Olympics in February next year in the Black Sea resort of Sochi.
British long jumper Jade Johnson, told the BBC in March that Moscow did not deserve to hold the championships because of its record of doping scandals.
UK Athletics head coach Peter Eriksson has also called for an investigation.
But Balakhnichev said the introduction of biological passports for athletes has exposed a set of serious problems in world's sports in general and Russian athletics in particular.
"I think we all should withdraw from issuing any labels," he also said.
"The British coaches and athletes should better watch closely what's going on closer to home."
He added that he considered the high financial motivation of success in modern athletics and a severe lack of educational work with athletes to be the main reasons for doping.
"In Soviet times, children's and youth sports schools were in charge of educational work with young athletes together with the country's youth public organisations," he said.
"After the fall of the Soviet Union we lost the moral standards that prevented the athletes from cheating."
Balakhnichev admitted that RUSADA dealt with doping only at elite sports level, ignoring youth sports where banned substances were widespread.
"I believe we should keep the entire sports pyramid -- from childrens' sports up to the world class athletes -- in our country under complete control to win the battle against doping," he said.
The athletics chief added that easy accessibility of banned drugs in Russia via the Internet was also to blame for the increasing number of doping cases in the country.
"I think that Russia's federal drug enforcement agency should take under control not only narcotics but doping products as well," he said.


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Cancer Health Center
Multiple CT Scans Raise Cancer Risk
CT Overuse a Concern
Radiology professor G. Donald Frey, MD, of the Medical University of South Carolina, tells WebMD that the radiology community has been working hard to identify areas where CT scans are overused.
He points out that the use of whole-body CT scanning to screen for illness in healthy people has all but disappeared over the past several years.
Briefly popular early in the decade, body-scanning clinics offered the promise of finding cancer, heart disease, and many other illnesses in their nascent stages, at a cost of about $1,000 a scan. But the claims did not pan out, and most of the clinics soon closed.
The focus now is on the use of CT scans for minor complaints and in the emergency medicine setting, Frey says.
"It is clear that CT is being overused, but it is not so easy to tell where this is happening," he says. "I would encourage patients not to put pressure on the physicians to order CTs, and I would encourage physicians to be aware of the appropriate indications for ordering them."
A study published earlier this year in the Journal of the American Medical Association found a wide variation in radiation from clinic to clinic for CT scans performed to identify cardiovascular disease.
Researchers reported that exposures from a single CT scan were as much as six times higher at some clinics than others.
In response to the study, the American Heart Association issued an advisory to physicians warning against the use of CT scans to screen asymptomatic patients.
The fact that physicians often have no idea how many previous scans a patient has had has hampered efforts to reduce exposures in patients.
Databases that keep track of previous CT scans, like the one used in the Harvard study, are not common, but Sodickson says they should be.
He and his colleagues are developing a computerized program that keeps track of the total number of scans a patient has had and also quantifies the risk.
In the meantime, patients can advocate for themselves by knowing how many CT scans they have had and sharing that information each time an additional scan is ordered, he says.
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Veal Stew
Earthy portobello mushrooms add depth to this rich veal stew. Serve over whole-wheat egg noodles or orzo.
Makes: 8 servings
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Nutrition Profile
Diabetes appropriate | Low calorie | Low cholesterol | Low saturated fat | Low sodium | Heart healthy | Healthy weight | High potassium |View Our Nutrition Guidelines »
- 4 sprigs sprigs parsley
- 1 3-inch sprig fresh rosemary or 1 teaspoon dried, chopped
- 2 bay leaves
- 1 1/2 tablespoons extra-virgin olive oil, divided
- 1 1/2 pounds lean stewing veal (from the leg), trimmed and cut into 1 1/2-inch cubes
- 1 ounce pancetta, country ham or bacon, finely chopped
- 4 carrots, thickly sliced on the diagonal
- 1 onion, chopped
- 2 cloves garlic, finely chopped
- 2 tablespoons all-purpose flour
- 1/2 cup dry white wine
- 1 14-ounce can plum tomatoes, drained and chopped
- 1/2 cup reduced-sodium chicken broth, or water
- 4 cups fresh pearl onions, or 2 cups frozen pearl onions
- 1 pound portobello mushrooms, cut into large pieces, or cremini mushrooms, quartered
- 2 tablespoons chopped fresh parsley
- Salt & freshly ground pepper to taste
- To make a bouquet garni, tie together parsley sprigs, rosemary and bay leaves with kitchen twine, or place in a cheesecloth bag; set aside.
- Preheat oven to 325°F. Heat 1 1/2 teaspoons oil in a large ovenproof pot or Dutch oven over high heat. Add half of the veal and brown well on all sides, about 4 minutes. Transfer to a plate lined with paper towels and repeat with another 1 1/2 teaspoons oil and the remaining veal. Set aside.
- Reduce the heat to low, add pancetta (or ham or bacon) and cook, stirring, until it begins to brown. Add carrots and cook, stirring, until they begin to soften, about 5 minutes. Add chopped onion and cook, stirring, for 2 minutes. Add garlic and flour and stir for 30 seconds. Pour in wine, scraping the solids from the bottom of the pot. Add tomatoes, broth (or water), the browned veal and the bouquet garni. Bring the stew to a simmer, cover the pot and transfer to the oven. Bake the stew, stirring occasionally, until the veal is tender when pierced with a fork, about 1 1/2 hours.
- Meanwhile, if using fresh pearl onions, bring a large saucepan of water to a boil. Add the onions (unpeeled) and cook for 3 minutes. Drain and rinse under cold water. When they are cool enough to handle, trim the ends and peel off the papery skins. (If using frozen pearl onions, thaw under cool running water and pat dry.)
- Heat the remaining 1 1/2 teaspoons oil in a large nonstick skillet over medium-high heat. Add the pearl onions and sauté until golden, 6 to 8 minutes. Transfer the onions to a bowl and return the pan to the heat. Add mushrooms and sauté until they begin to exude some liquid, 4 to 6 minutes.
- Stir the pearl onions and mushrooms into the stew during the last 10 minutes of cooking. Just before serving, remove the bouquet garni and stir in chopped parsley. Season with salt and pepper.
Per serving: 248 calories; 6 g fat (1 g sat, 3 g mono); 73 mg cholesterol; 25 g carbohydrates; 0 g added sugars; 21 g protein; 2 g fiber; 221 mg sodium; 705 mg potassium.
Nutrition Bonus: Vitamin A (104% daily value), Selenium (23% dv), Zinc & Potassium (20% dv).
Carbohydrate Servings: 1 1/2
Exchanges: 4 1/2 vegetables, 2 1/2 lean meat, 1 fat
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I have never made a donation to a plugin before, but just made one for this plugin, because it has got to be the best plugin ever AND is getting better every day, AND your support ROCKS!
Anyway, I saw on another thread that you purposefully do not have the plugin import comments to the WP database, and in fact, you seem to imply that if another plugin is doing this, it should be turned off before "it becomes a very big problem."
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Milwaukee Film Festival picks: Day Twelve
While many of its films are local-centric, the Milwaukee Film Festival spans the globe looking for films from other countries that audiences here might enjoy. Today is a great day to sample foreign-language romantic comedies in which opposites attract.
"Finding Mr. Right" (4:30 p.m., Downer Theatre) is a Chinese "Sleepless in Seattle"-type tale about a spoiled and shallow woman who, when she becomes pregnant, is sent to America, where she clashes - and falls in love - with a sensitive single dad who is her opposite. »Read Full Blog Post
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All Rise...
Judge Clark Douglas robs from the rich and gives to his bank account.
Editor's Note
Our reviews of The Adventures Of Robin Hood (published December 8th, 2003) and The Adventures Of Robin Hood (HD DVD) (published October 26th, 2006) are also available.
The Charge
Only the rainbow can duplicate its brilliance!
Opening Statement
"Men, if you're willing to fight for our people, I want you! Are you with me?"
Facts of the Case
It is a time of wickedness in England. King Richard the Lion-heart is off fighting a crusade, and evil people have taken over in his absence. The villainous Prince John (Claude Rains, Casablanca) and his evil aide Sir Guy of Gisbourne (Basil Rathbone, Romeo and Juliet) are oppressing the people. Taxes keep increasing, the poor keep getting poorer, and the rich keep getting richer. The people need a savior. Thankfully, there's one man who is ready to take on the wicked government. That would be Robin of Locksley, known better as Robin Hood (Errol Flynn, They Died With Their Boots On). He's a lean, green, stealing machine, robbing from the rich and giving to the poor, in order that oppression might be no more. As most men named Robin Hood are prone to do, he falls in love with a lovely lady named Maid Marian (Olivia de Havilland, Santa Fe Trail). Will Robin save the people, get the girl, and defeat Prince John and Sir Guy? Find out in…ah, never mind, you can bet your tights that Robin Hood will accomplish every last one of his goals.
The Evidence
I can only imagine how exciting it must have been to see The Adventures of Robin Hood back in 1938. It's an epic tale of romance and adventure, presented at a charmingly energetic pace. It featured heartthrobs like Errol Flynn and Olivia de Havilland, and great character actors like Claude Rains, Alan Hale, and Basil Rathbone. Best of all, it featured terrific set design, cinematography, and costumes, all presented in the newfangled wonder of glorious Technicolor! Though technology has developed considerably over the last 70 years, The Adventures of Robin Hood still stands a strong cinematic achievement today.
There are a lot of things to praise about The Adventures of Robin Hood, but I think the primary reason it works is that sense of joyous excitement. Rarely can you find so much enthusiasm bottled in a single cinematic work. The actors all seem thrilled to be participating in such a groundbreaking film, and at times they seem to be barely able to contain their energy. Many early Technicolor efforts were a bit overdone, adding garish color simply for the sake of showing off, but here the bright and vivid design just seems like a logical extension of the film's unique personality.
Errol Flynn has rarely been more dashing than he is here. Sure, his passionate acting paired with his somewhat silly outfit is easy to poke fun at. However, Flynn is so dedicated to the part that he permanently lands himself a spot as the definitive Robin Hood (with apologies to that cartoon fox). Flynn plays the stereotypical noble hero splendidly, raising his chin and fervently vowing things with endearing conviction. Basil Rathbone makes a fine match as the villainous Sir Guy; those only familiar with his Sherlock Holmes persona may be surprised to see him play an effectively nasty villain. Claude Rains also seems to be having lots of fun, wandering somewhere just outside the action as the vaguely baffled Prince John. Flynn's frequent collaborator Olivia de Havilland doesn't get quite so many interesting scenes as Maid Marian, but she is a very good fit for the role.
The story here is tossed off rapidly. We more or less cover the entire Robin Hood legend in a tight 102 minutes, and the energy level is always pretty high. The movie creates grand sets and costumes, but never dwells on them any longer than it absolutely needs to. I imagine there might have been a temptation to turn The Adventures of Robin Hood into a self-indulgent three hour epic, filled with long and turgid scenes that serve no purpose other than to show off various technical attributes and expound on story points. The Adventures of Robin Hood always puts excitement first. If the story ever comes to a point that would potentially cause the film to slow down, the movie quickly displays a title card informing us that such and such happened, and then thrusts us back into the action. I can't wipe the silly grin off my face when I watch this movie.
If there was ever an appropriate composer for the films of Errol Flynn, it was Erich Wolfgang Korngold. The scores for The Adventures of Robin Hood and The Sea Hawk more or less defined the sound of "swashbuckling" film music. Korngold's brassy, vibrant themes add a real buzz to the film's atmosphere, and completely sell impassioned moments of heroism that might have fallen flat otherwise. The Adventures of Robin Hood sports one of the truly great film scores of the 1930s. It may very well be one of the greatest scores of cinematic history. It's presented fairly well here, despite the obvious limitations of mono sound. The visuals are quite splendid in this hi-def transfer. Of course any film from 1938 is going to be a bit grainy and rough-looking in spots, but Warner Brothers has obviously put a great deal of work into making sure this film looks as strong as it possibly can. I'm very impressed.
And wow, this Blu-ray disc is simply jam-packed with extras. They're all standard-def, but this disc really demonstrates just how many supplements can be included in addition to a film on a single Blu-ray disc. We get a good commentary with film history Rudy Behlmer, who offers a tremendous amount of info on the film's production. There's an hour-long documentary on the making of the film, and another hour-long documentary on the glories of Technicolor. That would be plenty, but there's so much more here. There are classic cartoons, vintage shorts, old radio shows, outtakes, piano sessions, pieces from older Robin Hood films, posters, promotional materials, Errol Flynn trailers, home video footage from Basil Rathbone and Erich Wolfgang Korngold, and Leonard Maltin hosting a "Warner Night at the Movies" selection of goodies. Wow!
The Rebuttal Witnesses
You do have to be willing to accept a certain level of silliness to enjoy the film. There are a few scenes that defy logic so brazenly you can't help but laugh at them, but some might prefer a bit more credibility in their heroic epics.
Closing Statement
Hahahahaha! Robin Hood cares not whether his alliances lie with HD-DVD or Blu-ray! Robin Hood only cares about justice! Three cheers for King Richard! Huzzah! Huzzah! Huzzah!
The Verdict
Sure, like I'm going to try convicting Robin Hood? The guy would just escape and leave an arrow in my back, anyway. Not guilty.
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Initial install error:
"Your PHP installation appears to be missing the MySQL extension which is required by WordPress."
Apparently this is common.
..and YES I added: extension=mysql.so to the php.ini file & restarted Apache. No change...
In searching, I see the mysql.so module is NOT found in the httpd.conf file or the /usr/lib/httpd/modules/ folder. (surprise)
My config:
Godaddy Virtual-Dedicated Server
Linux (Fedora 7) w/ Simple Control Panel
NOTE: Under "Installed Modules" MySQL is listed. ?
PHP v 5.2.6
FYI: GoDaddy "shared" Linux hosting runs WP just fine. The Virtual/Dedicated setups are a different story (apparently).
I have full ROOT file access and can install anything I want, modify the httpd.conf, etc, so I believe I can fix this with help.
I recently installed Magento Commerce without a hitch on this server -it is MySQL heavy and works perfect. I'm certain I created the database correctly for WP. I don't understand why Magento works fine but WP doesn't, but whatever...
"yum" is an available function and I've seen some refer to this, but I have know idea where or what to do with that.
Is "yum" a command that I can use with an SSH connection?
SSH intimidates me a bit, but am an old "DOS" pro, so I imagine it can't be too difficult -I just don't now any SSH commands. I have PuTTY, too. Used it once. :-\
I can't imagine this is THAT complicated. As a few have posted, PHP and MySQL just need to "talk" to each other.
The "diagnostics" link shows:
MySql (database server):
Server version: 5.0.45-6.fc7
Client version: 5.0.45-6.fc7
Status: mysqld (pid 27943) is running...
Something interesting: phpinfo() shows...
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BUT... php.ini is only found in /etc/ and nowhere else...??
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i don't take requests, and you ask...not demand :P
Screw the sig, I'm a veteran.
Relogged just now to say hi, March 12, 2012! <3
lmao, i said "Snuby".
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But We Are @ Peace
huh? But before I said you could have your skarmory back if I could just have a quick IV battle. Kay fine. On the youtube thingy.Originally Posted by PokeChamp
what?Originally Posted by Slimi
i will iv battle after my battle with gyeong :P
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quit spamming...
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What is the interest in rayquazas?
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his colour
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looking for:
1-jirachi (legit)
2-Deoxys (legit)
3-celebi (legit)[doesn't have to be event could be colossiums bones disk celebi]
4-every pokemon between 460and mespirit not counting mespirit (but will not trade whats in list i have lots of other pokemon to trade for thoses
will trade:
1- Raygauza lvl 100 (legit)
2- mewtwo lvl 100 (not for shore)
3- charizard lvl66 (legit)
4- Cresselia lvl50 UT (legit)
5- mew lvl 64 (not yet sure but i have a thread waiting for your replays to find out)
items i have:
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2- 1 hp up
3- 1 pp max
4- 1 calcium
5- 1 iron
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Diamond FC:4381-8711-1331 user name: Mazen
mario kart FC:421014-931562
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My Contest Entry for 's Winter Contest.^^ I decided to make one Pic because i had that Idea a long time ago. XD So I hope you like it!
Art@ Mine
Bubbles, Blossom's bow and Buttercup's scarf@ Craig McCracken
Townsville@ Craig McCracken
Made in SAI for 3 hours+Many breaks.^^
Art@ Mine
Bubbles, Blossom's bow and Buttercup's scarf@ Craig McCracken
Townsville@ Craig McCracken
Made in SAI for 3 hours+Many breaks.^^
That's is so beautiful, dear! Bubbles is so adorable! I just want to hug her so badly! You did really great Job on the background too! The Snowman looks funny with the bow of Blossom, i really want to know what Reaction Blossom will have if she sees what Bubbles did to her bow. The shading is really good! And i just love the snow! It makes the Picture even better! I must say you are really improving on your drawing skills. I hope you draw more like this. I love your ''Powerpuff Girls'' style as much as i love your ''Manga'' style. In short words this is really wonderfully beautiful! I wish you good luck in that Contest, dear!
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This is the best kid Bubbles drawing I have ever seen! For example, her eyes really 'glow' with all the snow around her, and her sunny-blonde hair really shows because of the dark backgrounds! My favorite part of this picture is that you didn't make her hair all neat like it usually is. Plus, I love her expression. The coloring is very neat and not over shaded. ( That is something I need to work on ) Also, the details go perfectly with the picture. Also, I have a question. What paint tool do you use? I use Fireapalca!
Amazing Job, Lizzie~
Amazing Job, Lizzie~
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This is very good indeed great job! Love your art!
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Kamal Haasan's daughter Shruti has unknowingly triggered off a war of nerves in the film trade. This Friday, she appears in two Hindi films simultaneously. While in Prabhu Dheva's Ramaiya Vastavaiya she plays a nice sweet innocent girl in love, in Nikhil Advani's D-Day she plays the hard-hitting role of a prostitute.
Quite a culture and moral shock for the audience, and a clash that the team behind both the films desperately wanted to avoid.
Says Nikhil Advani, "They were supposed to release on a different date. When I heard they were coming on the same day, I immediately messaged the producer. However there was no response. More than anything else, audiences are going to be shocked to see Shruti transform within one Friday so drastically. I guess audiences are mature enough to take that kind of change. I remember Gulzar Saab's Koshish and Parichay were released within months of one another. In Koshish, Jaya Bachchan played Sanjeev Kumar's wife. In Parichay she played his daughter. Both succeeded."
While Nikhil maintains that the Shruti Haasan clash was precipitated by the Ramaiya Vastavaiya (RV) team. Prabhu Dheva the director of RV has another story to tell.
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Like seriously, you f**ked it up horribly. Therefore, I can only give you 1.5 stars. I could tell it was the Bowser Final on SM64. But that's it.
I'm only tryin to help you out here. If you want people to like your remix more, take heed of what I'm saying.
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Black and White
Black and White
Spectra Books, Paperback, 9780553386318, 452pp.
Publication Date: June 2, 2009
It's the ultimate battle of good versus good.
They were best friends at an elite academy for superheroes in training, but now Callie Bradford, code name Iridium, and Joannie Greene, code name Jet, are mortal enemies. Jet is a by-the-book hero, using her Shadow power to protect the citizens of New Chicago. Iridium, with her mastery of light, runs the city's underworld. For the past five years the two have played an elaborate, and frustrating, game of cat and mouse.
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They're both right. And they're both wrong. Because nothing is as simple as Black and White.
Caitlin Kittredge has written fifteen novels for adults and teens, including the award-winning Iron Codex trilogy. She also writes the horror comic Coffin Hill for DC/Vertigo. Caitlin lives in Massachusetts with several spoiled cats and a vast collection of geeky ephemera. When she's not working, she enjoys fixing up her 1881 Victorian house and reading extremely nerdy nonfiction books about serial killers, the Cold War, fringe science, and anything else that strikes her fancy.


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"Pluto Has Been a Planet My Whole Life!" Emotions, Attitudes, and Conceptual Change in Elementary Students' Learning about Pluto's Reclassification
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Learning about certain scientific topics has potential to spark strong emotions among students. We investigated whether emotions predicted students' attitudes after engaging in independent rereading and/or rereading plus discussion about Pluto's reclassification. Fifth and sixth grade students read a refutation text on Pluto's reclassification. Participants were randomly assigned to either the reread independently or the reread plus discussion group. Results showed that students in both groups experienced attitude change and that change was sustained over time. Students reported experiencing more negative than positive emotions at pretest. Emotions, which became more positive after intervention, were predictive of students' attitudes and attitude change. Implications for the role of emotions when learning about controversial topics are discussed.
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Research in Science Education
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More than nine planes and nine ships scoured the Indian Ocean for missing Flight MH370 on Wednesday. Still, no one has the slightest idea where the Malaysia Airlines jet is, and officials are growing pessimistic that the mystery will ever be solved.
Angus Houston, the head of a joint agency coordinating the multinational search effort out of Australia, said no time frame has been set for the search to end, but that a new approach would be needed if nothing showed up.
"Over time, if we don't find anything on the surface, we're going to have to think about what we do next, because clearly it's vitally important for the families, it's vitally important for the governments involved that we find this airplane," he told Australian Broadcasting Corp. radio.
The Australian Maritime Safety Authority has stopped giving details of objects found in the sea.
Police are investigating the pilots and crew for any evidence suggesting they may have hijacked or sabotaged the plane. The backgrounds of the passengers, two-thirds of whom were Chinese, have been checked by local and international investigators and nothing suspicious has been found.
"Investigations may go on and on and on. We have to clear every little thing," Inspector General Khalid Abu Bakar told reporters. "At the end of the investigations, we may not even know the real cause. We may not even know the reason for this incident."
Police are also investigating the cargo and the food served on the plane to eliminate possible poisoning of passengers and crew, he said.
The British government said a nuclear-powered submarine with advanced underwater search capability had arrived in the southern Indian Ocean.
The current search area is a 85,000-square-mile patch of sea roughly a 2 1/2-hour flight from Perth. The focus of the search has moved several times as experts try to estimate where the plane is most likely to have landed based on assumptions on its altitude, speed and fuel. Currents in the sea are also being studied to see where any wreckage is most likely to have drifted.
Malaysia has been criticized by the relatives of some Chinese passengers on board, who accuse them of not giving them enough information or even lying about what it knows about the final movements of the plane. Some are staying in hotels in Beijing and Kuala Lumpur, courtesy of Malaysia Airlines.
On Wednesday, authorities organized a closed-door briefing in Malaysia for the families with officials and experts involved in the hunt, including the chief of the Malaysian air force.
It was relayed by video conferencing technologies to the relatives in Beijing. Malaysia's civil aviation chief, Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, said officials answered all the questions raised by the relatives and that they had "a very good meeting." Several relatives interviewed after the session said officials showed them more satellite and other data, but that they were still not satisfied.
"The fact is they didn't give us any convincing information," said Steve Wang, a representative of some of the Chinese families in Beijing. "They said themselves that there are many different possibilities, but they are judging on the basis of just one of them."
Malaysian officials have on occasion given conflicting accounts and contradictory information over the last three weeks. They maintain they are doing their best in what it is an unprecedented situation, and stress they want the same thing as the families, namely to locate the plane as quickly as possible.
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