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Posted on 04/08/2008 5:33:15 PM PDT by LSUfan
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I think you're off the mark comparing the ballistics and trajectory of the 6.8Rem to 7.62X39 or 30-30. And no, it's not going to light up the high power world, but no round that packs 25 cartridges into an M-16 magazine ever could do that.
I get flamed when I criticize the 6.8SPC. Awhile back I suggested the 6.8 was the wrong direction and that the correct direction would be to put a heavier bullet in the 223 and then up the chamber pressure and the muzzle velocity by use of faster burning powder and/or more powerful primers. It wouldn't hurt to make it a boat tail bullet either, since, I'm pretty sure the 223 is not commonly a boat tail type bullet. If brass starts to split or bulge, make it thicker walled, or switch to aluminum casings. Whatever it takes.
Is the problem powder residue sticking to the works when they get hot
or that talc-like dust combining with the powder residue?
I also understand that the M4 action won't cycle when muddy?
And what is the commercial name of the lube you recommend. I like Dry-Slide, but by now there must be something sexier.
The FBI dumped the 10mm because (in part) it was too much abuse for their guys to take for prolonged periods of practice. Also during extended training the round started beating the gun frames to death and there were some disturbing stoppages involving the slides being locked into full battery and refusing to open. Which I would guess is a BAD thing in the middle of a gunfight.
9mm is too weak. 10mm is too strong. 40 is too expensive among other problems. That makes the 45 ACP for a semi auto in the words of the three bears: Just Riiiiiiight
I just finished reading the book Black Hawk Down (I know - I'm about a decade late on that). I was amazed to read about how much our troops hated the 5.56 ammo. There were several instances in that battle where they had to shoot someone 10-15 times to kill them.
Oh, you got to be kidding me! Have you ever even fired a 10mm caliber handgun? The only reason the FBI dumped the 10mm is because the FEMALE cadets sued because they couldn't pass the test with the 10mm. If I remember correctly, these same female cadets then failed to qualify with a 9mm. So the 10mm had nothing to do with it. I've fired the 10mm extensively. My 10mm glock kicks slightly LESS than my kahr PM9 9mm. Anyone that can't handle a 10mm should be disqualified on the basis of insufficient hand strength to protect themselves in a scuffle.
BTW, the frames getting beat to death were the very first 10mm handguns on the market. The brenten, IIRC. That was a design flaw. Not a caliber flaw. Modern Glock 10mm handguns are very reliable.
The biggest gripe I've ever had with he M-16 were the crappy magazines we had.
The second was during high rates of fire the barrel would smoke thus obscuring your sight picture.
My son carried an M4 on two tours, Liked it, he did say you had to do maintenace, esp the magazines.
He hated the M9, the magazines they issue are utter crap. I scored some commercial mags for him - in the end he carried a AK 47 or Mossberg as a backup. When he wasn't humping a M249.
The 6.8 SPC is almost the same as the 7.62x39... the issue sems to be "when used in a M16/M4" weaponn...
http://www.ko-tonics.com/68-FAQ.html for a decent rundown.
Yeah, it's small mass and high velocity gives it crappy stopping power at close range. It's the same problem with the 9mm. That's why SOCOM uses the Mk 23 .45ACP pistol instead of the M9 9mm
Also didn't help that the locals were high on khat.
Are you finding full house 10mm for that pistol? You practically have to load your own for that.
Or M79 grenade launchers loaded with canister rounds.
Why the heck would a crack military unit want something with better performance and less maintenance?
Thank your son for me- I served last with the CENTCOM Fwd liaison in Iraq in 2003, mostly in South Iraq, retired in 2006 after a stint in ROTC.
I had trouble with M9 magazines as well-the bodies were fine, the springs were pretty weak. I had a small handful of my own commercial beretta mags and they served well; on the other hand the 9mm did not do much on taget-I too carried a Mossberg M590 12 ga. It did much better.
Out of a 24 inch barrel, the 6.8 does pretty good, but 20inch M16 or 14 inch M4, too much velocity is lost.
The entire upper receiver is coated with a teflon material.
The residue from propellants is not as much a problem as some make it out to be. Graphite is commonly used as a lubricant, and this is the bulk of the residue we are concerned about. Graphite is used a a retardant on the ball powder used, the issue is that the original specifications by Mr. Stoner called for IMR (extruded stick powder), which uses different chemistry to control burn rate, and produces less residue (usually).
The dust is a problem, but with proper lub, routine cleaning and common sense operator sheilding of their weapons, and good junior leadership, dust can be kept to a minimum. A magazine in place, dust cover closed, muzzle cover on, the M4 is pretty well protected.
Not sure of an equivalent dry lub available commercially, but the mil-spec is a tough coating that in my expereince lasts quite a while under hard use, I will look it up and see if I can find a mil-spec nomenclature.
The SPEC OPS foks have done just that-the Sierra 77 grain matchking (now called open tip, as hollow point is not technically correct nor geneva convention PC) and it does something like 2750-2800 out of an M16A2, somewhat less from a carbine. I beleive they call it the Mk 262 mod1 (Navy has the lead on it). This is the equivalent of what wins National Match competitions out of AR15A2s (200-600 yard).
Some rumors indicate that the rest of the Army may be interested in using it as well.
The 55 grain M193 and the 62 grain M855 (SS109) NATO 556 mm bullets are indeed boat tailed bullets.
The cartridge cases of the 556 are tough enough for our purposes-adding thickness reduces capacity-negating any improvement-however, mil spec brass is somewhat heavier than civilian counterparts.
Side note-commom BTHP type bullets perform very much like FMJ bullets in flesh-they do not expand like hunting soft point bullets, rather, they tumble and often break in to at the cannelure.
Okay, the 30/30 pushes a 150 grain .308 diameter bullet at 2300 f/s froma 20 inch barrel, the 762X39 makes a 123 grain .308-.311 diameter bullet at about 2400 f/s from an 18inch SKS/AK barrel.
The 6.8 pushes a 115 grain .277 diameter bullet at about 2550f/s from a 14 inch M4 barrel.
Add 6 inches to the 6.8 and you see advantages, but the 762x51 is already a mil-spec round with several off the shelf platforms available and in the field.
Calculations indicate not too much difference in KE at the muzzle (30/30 leading), plus the 115 grn .277 bullet has a rather poor BC (about the same as the 123 762, slightly better than the 150 grn 30/30 -because the 30/30 uses a FP bullet) and therefore a short range trajectory.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Nor should you. With a good selection of ammo, say 45-50 grain 223, it is a terrific house gun, with 68-77 grain BTHPs it will reach out easily to 300m and with a decent optical sight, you are not handicapped by it at all.
Most important is practice and more practice. 55 grn M193 milsurp is getting expensive, but still less than 20-22 cents a shot if you buy in bulk.
I have fired the .45 (11.4 MM in Euro-talk) from a variety of platforms, and also the 10MM (which in American is a .40cal). The 10MM does have, shall we say, a bit "stouter" recoil. If this were to be a 100# person's first pistol, I'd say it could be a problem ... but the same might be true for the .45. Does anyone know the exact differences in ballistics between the two rounds? It seems to me the major point is that you can stack more 10MM in a magazine.
Various state police agencies used to start rookies off with .22 automatics, and when they could actually hit something on a regular basis, they would be moved on to heavier calibers. Whatever happened to that idea?
NATO obviously feels hitting something with one out of fifteen of their anemic 9MM loads is preferable to missing things with 7 rounds from a more manly weapon. Maybe after you can hit something with the 9MM, they should issue a .45 ... or at least issue real ammo for the 9MM?
Comparing the rifle calibers, I was mainly focusing on your lumping the trajectory of the 6.8spc with the 30-30 and the 7.62X39. This is not a correct comparison. Here is one handy table to check:
Here are some common calibers, and their "max point blank range" which is the greatest distance the bullet will travel between 3" above and below the bore. This is a shorthand method for quantifying the flatness of a trajectory, from rainbow to laser.
.223 55gr at 3240fps MPBR 239 yards
.243 110gr at 3100fps MPBR 283 yards
6.8 115gr at 2800fps MPBR 267 yards
30-30 150gr at 2390fps MPBR 225 yards
7.62X39 123gr at 2365 MPBR 225 yards
7.62NATO 150gr at 2800 MPBR 275 yards
7.62NATO 180gr at 2610 MPBR 259 yards
30-06 180gr at 2700 MPBR 269 yards
So you can see, in terms of trajectory, the 6.8spc is up with the 7.62NATO and 30-06, not the 30-30 or 7.62Russian. On the battlefield, this flatter trajectory translates into a much longer effective range. A different table showing drops at longer ranges would show the 30-30 and 7.62 having so much greater drop that they would be categorized as having rainbow trajectories. Not so with the 6.8, 7.62NATO or 30-06.
10mm is only .40 in terms of measured caliber. The .40S&W caliber is now commonly used by police departments, and could be considered the "10mm short." They are not interchangeable, to say the least.
The FBI and other FLEAs did purchase a run of 10mm MP5 subguns, but they had a lot of problems. In the vernacular, they were called "MP five and dimes." I don't know if they are still in use.
The 10mm fired from the Glock pistol has been very successful. 15 rounds of the stout 10mm hollowpoint must be one of the mose powerful combos of stopping power and capacity in any pistol.
Comparing 9mm to .45 is really two separate discussions. If you are a soldier restricted to FMJ hardball ammo, then yes, the 9mm is much less effective than the .45, even considering greater mag capacity. The 9mm hardballs tend to zip through bad guys.
But in the civilian world where we can buy terrific hollowpoint +P ammo, 9mm is a pretty effective round. Coupling this greater effectiveness (compared to 9mm hardball) with less recoil and greater mag capacity makes the 9mm a good choice for civilians. Especially if the wife might have to use it.
.....I have a Colt 10mm "Delta Elite".....
.....it's on a 1911 frame (.45 cal).....
.....on this frame with similar recoil springs it gives a bit more "kick" than models built from the ground up for the 10mm cartridge.....
.....I personally love the 10mm, and btw.....
.....the 10mm came first.....
.....they cut it down to .40 cal to lesson recoil for civi use.....
Ditto. I thought long & hard about home defense tools, and settled on a Colt M4LE (as close to a gen-ew-wine M4 as legal for us mere civvies).
From what I can tell, the real problem is the insistence on using "green tip" rounds for soft targets: fragmentation is crucial for 5.56 performance, and the steel-core stuff doesn't fragment. Use Mk.262 and results are much better. The M16/M4 platform is very sensitive to ammo selection (length & twist vs. weight & velocity, fragmentation velocity, velocity drop vs. distance), and most who have problems with terminal ballistics probably picked the wrong ammo. Feed it a proper diet, and it will perform admirably.
Context is also important. The M4 platform, with its short barrel, is made more for close ranges of urban & CQB situations, not the long ranges of open desert & mountain terrain. For the latter, you want an AR10 or M24 (both .308). Where velocity drops below 2700fps, the M4's effectiveness plummets (it will still mess up someone's day, however); compact & light is great for quasi-urban situations, long & heavy works better for reach-out-and-touch-someone.
Upshot: use the right tool for the job. If you don't, don't blame the tool.
Or 11.25mm, in Norwegian Model M/1914 .45 Auto talk.
he was allowed to carry a personal ak47 and mossberg shotgun?
If this is the case, why not start a buy a gun for a soldier program?
If it has not been started already we could do this via one of the suppliers since they would have the expertese to get it to the solders through the approriate channels.
If the answer is "Yes," the fixes suggested, namely changing from open gas operation to piston actuation, don't seem all that daunting. How do we go for it?
If the answer is "No," should we replace with the HK416? How do we get that done? Some changes are obviously in the wind, but we are also obviously in the "confusion" stage. As far as the caliber change goes, both of the weapons in question are adaptable ... I think.
The M9 issue is perhaps more complicated. IMO, this would be a fine weapon, if fed with the right ammo, which is forbidden to us by NATO and the Geneva Convention. Can we change that? If not, then what? If not, with what do we replace the M9?
We need specific people in Congress who can help sort this out. Do we have 5 people we can trust?
As for the AK - he made the point there was always "a lot lying around" when not humping the SAW, he did prefer his (carefully maintained) M4 with IR laser, ACOG and large magazines.
Walking in the mud of Anbar had to be at least as hard as humping ruck in the mud of the Mekong Delta - but they do have better line of sight, no jungle.
Our next worry is that some of his buds from his old FAST team have been called back to active duty.....
That's half of the M16 magazine problem. The worst flaw is that the *curved* 30-round magazine has to enter a straight-sided magazine well, so has to include a straight-line upper portion combined with a curved lower, a result of Gene Stoner's original design meeting the requirement of having a 20-round capacity. Why? because the M14 and BAR that preceeded the AR-15 designs had 20-round mags, so that was what Army Ordnance specified.
When American soldiers armed with testbed AR15s and early production M16 rifles that would empty a full 20-round magazine in a single burst in less than a second began to encounter NVA and Viet Cong troops with AKs with 30-round magazines, the difference mecame a mattter of survival. The most immediate answer on the American side was to tape two magazines together, one up and one down. With the early light aluminum *waffle* magazines for the M16, this had two additional results, one being that the additional weight bent away the magazine's metal around the mag catch, resulting in misfeeds from a ruined magazine; the waffle mags were subsequently removed from service. The other problem was that the magazine catch of the rifle could be bent enough to prevent reliable feeding even with a single new magazine. One other *field fix* sometimes tried was to modify the magazine of an AK47 to fit an M16, though the magazine catch limitation meant that was just a stopgap.
When Stoner developed his M62 machinegun, which could be fired in either magazine-fed or beltfed configurations, he designed a new magazine for it, omitting the straightside magazine well of the AR15/M16/M16A1/A2/M4 and allowing a magazine that was of curved form for its entire length. When the Israelis combined bits of the FN-FAL paratroop rifle, the AK and the Finnish Valmet m/62 into the 5.56 Galil, design, the first test versions used Stoner 62 magazines, which will fit and feed in the Galil's produced today, except for the ones that have an accessory *adapter well* to let them use dirt-common M16 magazines.
Likewise, when H&K designed their HK33 series 5.56mm rifles based on their roller-locked 7.62mm G3, they used a new magazine with an all-curve profile. As did the Steyr AUG, the followon H&K G36, The first versions of Britain's L64/SA80 bullpup, and most every other 5.56 rifle I can think of that doesn't use the M16 magazine. The one exception that comes to mind was the first versions of the French FAMAS bullpup, which had a rectangular profile 25 round magazine; the current production FAMAS G2 uses the M16 magazine.
The two on the right are the 20 and 30-round magazines for the Ar15/M16/M4:
I'm happier with my longer but lighter M16A1 version, whose longer gas tube allows more room for buildup of corrosion from foreign surplus ammo, old GI M193 ball, or my crappy reloads. But I have hedged my bets sufficiently to have a second upper available for it with a shorty 1:7 twist barrel, just in case I find some 62 grain M855/ NATO SS109 or 77 Grain MK 262 Mod 0 5.56MM lying around on the ground.
Of course, I could throw another lower together for the shorty barrel, and have another rifle around. Then I'd want to have a spare available for it, then I'd probably come up with another lower for it, then another spare, usw, usw.
Neat info-
The 556 62 grn does not do 3240-more like 2750-2800 from an M4
The 6.8 fails to meet that 2800 fs as well-more like 2450-2500 from a 14 inch M4
Got to compare apples to apples. Remember what I stated in my post-'No free lunches for the Dogs of War".
It would be nice if the 6.8 actually did perform that well from a 14 inch M4-the truth is not in your quoted table, likely it was derived using a 24 inch barrel or maybe even longer. 10 inches of added length would add approx. 25-40 fs per inch, or 250-400 more velocity than a 14 inch tube. I would not expect any more than my estimated 2450-2500 fs.
Also, given the design of the M4, the point blank figures should be using 14-15 inches above and below the point of aim-the military expects troops to aim center mass and on a standing enemy, that total target height is around 28-30 inces (hips to collar bones)
The M16A2 point plank range is 360 m with M855 ammo (rear sight set at 300+1 click, zeroed at 42 m, then RS backed to 300) Bullet path is approx 15 inches high at 250m, crosses line of sight at 300m and falls below 15" low at approx 360m. M4 5.56 is zeroed in similar fashion, with max PB at around 300m IIRC.
See FM 23-5 M16/A1/A2, M4, M4A1 Rifle Marksmanship for data tables etc. I do not know of any comprehensive M4/6.8 data, just ballistic software figures.
My estimation for the 6.8/M4 is that is would not significantly add PB range, compared to the M855/M4 (again, same platform, different caliber).
Would be interseting to see actual test data.
There are a few mods tha that M16 family could use to improve serviceability.
However, the platform is a fine tool as it is. Adding a piston driven system would not be cost effective, nor necessary. It works.
Soldiers have died because the Garand (the world's greatest battle implement)failed as well.
Too many older troops (no disrespect intended, believe me) expereinced major life-threatening problems with the M16 in Vietnam. The M16A1 pretty much solved those functional problems-chrome lined bore and chmaber, slight mods to the externals,and more QC in the ammo production process. Each susequent upgrade has resulted in a more lethal, user friendly modular system that plain works.
It's been the standard rifle in one version or another since 1967. We may have squeezed about as much out of the system as can be managed, but a couple of additional improvements do come to mind. With more than 10 million produced and most of those still in service, we can expect that one way or another, the M16 is going to be in service somewhere in the system until at least 2025, probably to the midpoint of the XXI Century.
If the answer is "Yes," the fixes suggested, namely changing from open gas operation to piston actuation, don't seem all that daunting. How do we go for it?
It's going to take more than that, actually, quite a bit more. See my comments about the magazine design in the post above. And the M16 is not particularly lefty-friendly, the *Brunton Bump* on the side of the M16A2 receivers to prevent ejected brass from hitting left-handed firers in the eye not withstanding. There have been a couple of troops blinded in one eye by ejected, spinning brass, not a real desirable feature in a combat weapon.
If the answer is "No," should we replace with the HK416?
Maybe some of them could be replaced with the HK416; I don't think it's ever going to be an all-services rifle, even though the SpecOps community likes it. Neither is the XM8 *just* the answer, nor the German G36s that are the weapon used by the Pentagon security detail.
How do we get that done?
I would strongly suggest a Divine religious miracle.
Some changes are obviously in the wind, but we are also obviously in the "confusion" stage. As far as the caliber change goes, both of the weapons in question are adaptable ... I think.
So is the M16, though it's better handled as an armorer's project during depot rebuilds with them. That offers at least one possible use for the 4.5 million old M16A1s in the national inventory, some of which the Navy has recycled back into M4A1s, and many of which have gone to Israel. The M9 issue is perhaps more complicated. IMO, this would be a fine weapon, if fed with the right ammo, which is forbidden to us by NATO and the Geneva Convention. Can we change that? If not, then what? If not, with what do we replace the M9?
And the M12, used by those for whom the M9 is overly bulky. Oh, and those SIG226s used by the Navy Seal teams.
We need specific people in Congress who can help sort this out. Do we have 5 people we can trust?
The problem is, they have to be both trustworthy AND knowledgable, or at least have at least one staff member in the right position to understand the issue. We've got one such running in Indiana's 9th District. And Chip Pickering from Mississippi's Third District knows what he's talking about, based on a conversation I had with him when he visited the Katriuna relief efforts. But I understand he's not running for reelection.
My estimation for the 6.8/M4 is that is would not significantly add PB range, compared to the M855/M4 (again, same platform, different caliber).
Would be interseting to see actual test data.
Remember that the Soviets, who'd been fielding the AK47 and AKM with a 16-inch barrel since the early 1950s, have also had unhappy users insofar as the smaller bullet of their own downsized 5.45mm AK74- including MikTim Kalishnikov hisself.
What I'd really like to see would be that bullet from the 6.8 SPC utilized in the 5.45mm case, thereby suitable for either the 5.56x45mm-length actions, or the former SovBloc &.62 M43 and 5.45 weapons.... and maybe even the existing magazines. I haven't run the ballistics of the reworked round yet, though I'm sure the Soviets did when they worked out the 5.45 cartridge. But I have offered the idea to someone in that line who's interested.
Correct me if I am wrong.
The AK47 or AKM barrel is usually 16.1 inches long. That of the SKS/CKC Siminov Carbine is 521 MM/ 20.5 inches in lenght. Best of all, the RPK Squad Auto version has a barrel 23.5 inches long, offering both a little better velocity and a longer sight radius than its shorter cousins.
It was ever thus.
Not so:
If we could only travel in time.......:o)
LOL! Is that guy on the lower right having mag problems??! :)
Okay: First off, the 10mm is not the same thing as a 40. The forty is called the shorty forty because it is actually a shortened 10mm case because the full size round was beating the frames of the pistols to death and doing a job on the sensibilities of folks that fired the round. Also, the 10mm isn't what you'd call a widely available round and neither is the 40. As opposed to the 45 and 9mm which can be found everywhere on the planet and in great quanities. Maybe there is a reason for that? Anyway, that's useful in logistics (my secondary military specialty) when you run short and maybe have to make a local purchase. We used to do that all the time for various types of goods.
Perhaps the most spectacular example of local purchase is the first Gulf War when Special Forces discovered that wheeling across the desert in the HUMVEE was hazardous to your health because only Americans drove them so every sniper and jihadi with an RPG was looking for those. But in a Land Rover, Range Rover, or Toyota Land Cruiser you could be mistaken for a wandering mullah or imam and shooting at those could make you wind up in hell. So here went the SOCOM guys buying up the entire inventories of whole dealerships and screaming across the desert in these fully loaded (pun) luxury land yachts with the CD's blaring inside and the A/C on full blast.
Back on topic. The 10mm is inadequate in so many practical ways but not in the man stopping department. Too bad that's not enough. The Hague accords aren't going to change so bullet configuration is going to remain FMJ and the 10mm is far more likely to over-penetrate than either the 45 or the 9mm, bringing innocent lives into harm's way. The result is every politician's nightmare collateral damage.
Better to use a suitable platform like the USP or H&K45 both of which use a mechanical system to reduce the felt recoil. It's a DA first shot which beats the 1911 all the way around for making sure the shot is an intended action and that reduces that ~shudder~ dreaded collateral damage.
I agree with the idea of starting folks out on a 22 and working up. I use that whenever I have a novice in one of my ccw classes(I've been an NRA certified Instructor for about 20 years). The truth remains thusly: In a FMJ configuration bigger bullets are needed for a decisive stop. The round that meets the need best all around including the militarily critical area of logistics is clearly the 45 ACP.
Overpenetration? You're a nut. Nobody cares about overpenetration from a rifle. So why should they care about overpenetration from a pistol?
There are are 6X223, 6.5X223 and 7X223 wildcats which generally are poor performers with bullets of any appreciable increase in mass/BC.
The 6mmX223 can push a 70 grn 6mm bullet at about 2700fs, much less effeicient than the 77/80/90 grn SMK already in use in the 223/556, don't even try seating a 107 SMK with the expectation velcoity past 2000fs!
Again, no free lunches-trade capacity for bullet diameter.
You kinda lost me-use the 5.45x39 mmm with a .277 diameter bullet? You would be losing more case capacity than if you wnet with a 6.8x223 (45mm case), I think.
There are a few dedicated 6mm cartridges being used in High Power Competition in the AR-the 2007 National Match Rifle Champ (Carl Bernosky) used a 6mm Hagar, not too sure of the case length, but the OAL must be AR mag length for use in the rapid fire stages....
Bottom line is the 233/5.56 mmx 45 is probably the most mature cartridge since the 308/7.62 (full course 200-600 yd match competition drives designs to the edge of performance, occassionally past it!)
Nothing to stop you from creating a 6.8 x39 mm, but it will be a lessor cartridge than the 6.8 or the 5.56 already are;
Rough interpolation would indicate that it could not exceed ~2450-2500Fs (gas law rule of reduction of bore diameter compared to existing rounds always yeilds less velocity from a similar platform profile) with a 115 grn bullet, and AK/SKS platform accuracy is nothing to boast about either.
The 5.56 with advanced bullet design (77 SMK) still is the best combination of performance, capacity, reliability and accuracy compared to the other combat options.
If you want a 30 cal (762x51, 762x63) performance step up to a proper platfrom, remember.... no free lunches for the dogs of war! (Democrat party planks notwithstanding....)
Molom Labe!
If the answer is "No," should we replace with the HK416? How do we get that done?
First take the ~spits to the side~ politicians out of the process! Listen to the troops not some politician or senior officer either one of which (speaking of generals who are superior politicians in their own world) might be taking kickbacks under the table from the arms manufacturers or folks with serious monetary connections to the contracts. Like companies who manufacture accessories for the M4 that would need to be retooled in a new rifle.
Get a bunch of troops and test the crap out of the weapons under real world conditions and situations from the testers experiences. Once the 416 is confirmed as meeting the needs of the service determine if there must be any variations for special circumstances (like tankers or aircrew) and issue the contract.
But, in the 45s defense, there is evidence to suggest that muzzle energy isn't a perfect indicator of stopping power. for instance, the 45 seems to do much better in the real world than ballistic data would predict.
But you asked about ballistics, not real life gun fights. AS far as balistics are concerned, the 45 is really pathetic. Well, not as pathetic as a 38 special. But not very good. Not very good at all.
First of all, is that all you took from my argument? I posted overpenetration as a potential consequence to MOUT operations (aka urban warfare) where a round that sails clean thru may hit either a civilian or worse another troop. But hey taken from a soldier's point of view I don't think I'd lose much sleep over the former (maybe sleep a little sounder if I was able to drop two bad guys for the price of one) and we all knew the risks when we signed on the dotted line. But the folks who make the decisions in the big five sided puzzle palace absolutely cringe at the thought. So you seized upon the most minor point of mine to argue and then you attack me personally. Sounds like a liberal with the weak side of the argument. Can't argue on substance. Go for the "below-the-belt" shot, confuse the issue with small points and hope nobody notices that you slimed out of the issue in all the confusion.
C'mon, you've been around FR almost as long as I have. You're well traveled (I saw your about page) and well read. Don't stoop to the juvenile tactics of the left. You're way better than that.
Feed reliability partly comes from the fact that bullet diameter is less than case diameter.
But, I was thinking earlier that maybe a good idea would be to neck up a 223 to maybe a 25 caliber, then load a sabboted 22 caliber bullet in it. Also, very fast burning powder, polygonal rifling, increased head space, less twist, much higher chamber pressures, aluminum cases or steel if necessary and a hammerforged stainless barrel. Heck, make it out of monel or nikasil or whatever stands up better than stainless. Invent a new metal if necessary. Whatever it takes to increase pressure and velocity.
But not at the expense of accuracy. Some of the ideas I just threw out may hurt accuracy.
Just right offhand, I can't immediately recall any round that has a bullet diameter greater than the case diameter....
Very funny. I meant to type "greatly less than" or "significantly less than".
The 6mmX223 can push a 70 grn 6mm bullet at about 2700fs, much less effeicient than the 77/80/90 grn SMK already in use in the 223/556, dont even try seating a 107 SMK with the expectation velcoity past 2000fs!
Indeed. One of the contenders [submitted by Gene Stoner's ARES, I believe] during the SAW trials used a 5.56mm case with the neck opened enough to take a 6mm bullet. But I think the idea was to get a tracer bullet with a tracer burnout distance beyond 900 meters as much as for other external ballistic improvement. It's of course a lot easier to make a barrel change on a Minimi/M249 SAW than on a M16 rifle.
Again, no free lunches-trade capacity for bullet diameter.
An improvement on one side of the scale will certainly be met with a tradeoff of some sort elsewhere, unless there's a major materials/technology breakthrough. No argument from me about that.
You kinda lost me-use the 5.45x39 mmm with a .277 diameter bullet? You would be losing more case capacity than if you wnet with a 6.8x223 (45mm case), I think.
Correct. But it would be an improvement for the AK family platform, probably using existing AK74 magazines. At the very worst, magazines for the 5,56x45 AK variants might be used, or new ones developed.
There are a few dedicated 6mm cartridges being used in High Power Competition in the AR-the 2007 National Match Rifle Champ (Carl Bernosky) used a 6mm Hagar, not too sure of the case length, but the OAL must be AR mag length for use in the rapid fire stages....
Yep. And 6mm Tubb, the 7,62x39mm/M43-derived6mm PPC,and there's 6mmAR, intended specifically for the M16/M4 platform. And stepping things up a notch, the 6,5 Grendel.
Bottom line is the 233/5.56 mmx 45 is probably the most mature cartridge since the 308/7.62 (full course 200-600 yd match competition drives designs to the edge of performance, occassionally past it!)
Nothing to stop you from creating a 6.8 x39 mm, but it will be a lessor cartridge than the 6.8 or the 5.56 already are;
Yep. But it could well be an improvement over the 5.54x39.5 Soviet
Rough interpolation would indicate that it could not exceed ~2450-2500Fs (gas law rule of reduction of bore diameter compared to existing rounds always yeilds less velocity from a similar platform profile) with a 115 grn bullet, and AK/SKS platform accuracy is nothing to boast about either.
Concur, for the most part. Though accuracy concerns are more an issue with rifle accuracy than required beaten zone effects for a SAW, as per the US *Project Salvo* efforts of the 1960s-'70s.
The 5.56 with advanced bullet design (77 SMK) still is the best combination of performance, capacity, reliability and accuracy compared to the other combat options.
If you want a 30 cal (762x51, 762x63) performance step up to a proper platfrom, remember.... no free lunches for the dogs of war! (Democrat party planks notwithstanding....)
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I'm not so certain it's all that cut-and dried. From the British thoughts circa 1910 regarding a possible pre-WWI .303 SMLE replacement that became the Pattern 13 Rifle of , to Pedersen's .276 cartridge used in the first Garand rifles, to the Post-WWII British circa-1945 Armament Design Establishment's Ideal Cartridge Panel development of the .280 cartridge [280 Mk1Z/(7 x 43 mm)]for the EM1 and EM-2 designs that would have become the British *Rifle No. 9* NATO rifle, there's been a lot of interest in something in there somewhere between a .22 and .30 caliber hole. Oh yeah, and the old Navy/Marine straight-pull Lee rifles and Colt Potato Digger LMGs of the Boxer War period.
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Gucci Mane Sentenced to 39 Months in Jail on Gun Charge
Rapper Gucci Mane has been sentenced to 39 months in jail on gun charges. The sentence, which came on Wednesday, August 20, was a part of an agreement with prosecutors after he pleaded guilty to possession of a firearm by a convicted felon in May. The rapper, whose real name is Radric Davis, was also sentenced to three years of supervised release with traveling restriction and ordered to pay a $5,000 fine.
"You're a young man. You have a full life before you. ... I see a lot of famous people move outside the line," U.S. District Judge Steve C. Jones told the rapper during the court session, as quoted by Atlanta Journal-Constitution. If he continues breaking the law, "you're going to wake up one morning broke. You're going to wake up one morning back in prison." He has been held under custody for eleven months, so he has 28 more months to go.
During the court meeting, Mane's lawyers asked Jones to suggest that the Bureau of Prisons put him in a facility with drug program, away from negative influence in Atlanta. "He understands he has some work ahead of him and his goal is to bring resolution to this case and get back to performing," said Mane's attorney Drew Findling. "He doesn't want anything to distract him. He wants to do anything to get back to the work place and the work place is the stage."
Mane's latest legal trouble started in September when a friend reported that Mane was carrying a gun while being "agitated." Officers who found him walking down the street said Mane was carrying a small amount of marijuana in addition to a hand gun.
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Oct. 20, 2010 -- Measuring children's waists may be better than using body mass indexes (BMI) to pinpoint their risk for future cardiovascular problems.
Researchers at the University of Georgia and two research institutions in Australia say they found that children with high waist circumference measurements were five to six times more likely than children with smaller middles to develop metabolic syndrome by early adulthood. Metabolic syndrome is a cluster of risk factors associated with long-term development of very serious health issues, such as coronary artery disease, stroke, and type 2 diabetes.
Waist Circumference a Better Measure of Childhood Obesity Risks
The researchers used data collected as part of a 20-year follow-up of 2,188 Australians aged 7 to 15 who participated in a national childhood health and fitness survey in 1985. After they became adults, subjects attended one of 34 study clinics, where they underwent a range of health and fitness assessments.
Participants with waist measurements in the top 25% for their age/gender during childhood were five to six times more likely to be classified with metabolic syndrome by the time they were 26 to 36 years old, compared to children with low waist circumference (those in the bottom 25%).
"We wanted to identify which clinical measures of childhood body composition best predicts long-term cardio-metabolic health risks," study author Michael Schmidt, PhD, of the University of Georgia's department of kinesiology, says in a news release. "We were able to compare a wide range of body composition measures and found that waist circumference seems to be the best measure to predict risk."
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It doesn't matter if he's a drooling vegetable. As long as he's alive and doesn't resign, he can keep his seat.
Very interesting bit about Ford, Dan. It's like when you talk about "tolerance" being about treating gay folks equally, whilte "tolerance" doesn't have to mean "I love gay people!!"
I imagine Ford was like my deceased Catholic grandma when it came to the gays: as long as they're civil and they keep their yards nice, who cares about the rest?
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FWIW, last June, Peter Gammons of ESPN had a sudden brain hemorrhage, had to undergo emergency surgery, was in critical condition, was transferred to a rehab hospital after about three weeks. He was back on the job, seemingly none the worse for the experience, within three months. Granted, that was an aneurysm rather than an AVM, and brain bleeds are like real estate -- location, location, location -- but the comparison may be valuable.
Wow, check it out. Savage is strangely silent about the Capitol Hill blog vote on the Slog, instead sending his minions to try to rally support. But look at this posting from the Portland Mercury site:
How unfair...Karl Rove tactics! Vote for the good guys- VOTE SQUIRRELS
Yeah, the huge block of ice breaking off from the arctic. But at least in our "environmental" city you still have to struggle to find people who will actually car pool or use public transit on the weekends. Hell, take a look at downtown and count the SUV's in Seattle! Seattle will never be a green city until our Mayor gets serious about pushing for real public transit options FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND WORK IN SEATTLE!!! Honestly, take a bus on a Saturday or Sunday evening from Ravenna to Magnolia and tell me how long it takes.
I will get off my soap box.
I don't know what to say, Dan. I've always been proud to know that Gerald Ford was Michigan's only citizen to become President, but to find that he was also supportive of gay rights and opposed President Bush's invasion of Iraq makes me giddy beyond belief. Unbelievable. God bless you Mr. President. Go Blue. Oh yeah, the thing about sweeping Nixon's Watergate stuff under the carpet... Good Job!!!
I hope Michael Crichton is up there hunting down the environmento-fascists who obviously are running amok in the arctic with jackhammers in a fanatical attempt to influence our Way of Life.
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I understand that the "football field" is an accepted unit of measurement in the US (and apparently Canada), but COME ON... 11,000 footbal fields? That's a little hard to grasp. Is the the size of Rhode Island? Bigger?
My back-of-the-envelope calc says that 11,000 football fields is 633,600,000 square feet or close to 23 square miles. Rhode Island is 1,214 square miles.
Quick question for you constitutional experts (!): If Johnson isn't actually present for votes, and there's a tie, say due to another senator being absent - does that allow Cheney, as President Pro Tem, to use his tie-breaking authority? Or are the two non-voters in this example merely recorded as "not present" or whatever, and the tie vote stands?
Manhattan is about 23 square miles in area. A much better descriptor in my opinion.
I remember hearing about the Rhode Island sized chunk of ice that broke off in the late 80s. But, you know, those care-free late Reagan years, when the most important issue then was bad words in music.
Dan, I'm glad you mentioned the bit about Gerald Ford and the Republican Unity Coalition. A lot of press coverage seems to imply (incorrectly) that Republicans are monolithically behind the social conservative wing and its anti-gay agenda. Nice to see the inclusive wing of the party making the news too.
Most of the GOP activists I know locally would agree with the RUC's message of tolerance and inclusion and that sexual orientation should be a non-issue for the GOP. We make this point both internally and externally. I can't repeat this often enough.
Happy New Year.
Do they really mean football fields? Or soccer pitches?
And where will the Coca-Cola polar bears play soccer now?
UPDATE: the big berg is 41 sq mi., so it must be soccer talk.
And Rhode Island has nothing to fear ... for now.
Regarding Gerald Ford, he and his wife are also pro-choice, and non-apologetic with their stand on the issue.
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Manuscripts, in a single hand, of biographical and genealogical notes primarily about eighteenth-century personalities and writers. The collection includes geneological notes on Rachel, Duchess of Devonshire; a biography of "Mrs. Robinson," of whom Noble writes, "Had she escaped from vice, imprudence and folly when she was surrounded with them it would have been more than extraordinary," is accompanied by a short verse on her; a biography of Jacob Bryant; a genealogy of "Oliver Goldsmith's Family;" and "Some Notes respecting Cowper, Particularly a comparison between him & Dr. Sam. Johnson, by me," which includes a diagram of William Cowper's pedigree.
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Since sanctions related to Iran's nuclear program have been lifted, Peugeot is jumping at the opportunity to return to a very important market.
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You may have seen videos of Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force F-14 Tomcat fighters escorting Russian aircraft across Iranian airspace to Syria. Here's why you shouldn't be alarmed.
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US forces were in contact with Iranian forces just three hours after contact was launched, and were told the sailors were "safe and healthy."
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The ten sailors – nine men and one woman – were captured due to a mechanical malfunction in one of their riverine patrol boats in the Persian Gulf.
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Analysts are predicting that this week's historic deal with Iran will cause gas prices to drop dramatically in the coming months.
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Early this morning, an Iranian patrol vessel fired warning shots and eventually boarded a cargo vessel flagged to the Marshall Islands in the Strait of Hormuz.
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Western automakers continue to anticipate a nuclear deal between Iran and the West that will lift economic sanctions and allow the companies to access what is said to be the world's ripest emerging market.
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Soon after eliminating tariffs on the import of and electric vehicles and many hybrids, Iran has reportedly imported its first electric car to the country. According to Homayoun Haeri, managing director of Iran Power Generation Transmission & Distribution Management Company, the unspecified model came from Paris to Tehran via 17 countries.
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A change in Iranian trade law could help promote the sale of hybrid and electric vehicles. EVs and hybrids with engines 2.5-liters or smaller are no longer subject to import tariffs, reports the Tehran Times. Iran intends to completely eliminate car import tariffs within two years, according to Iranian Member of Parliament Ali Alilou, who has also urged the government to stop pumping money into the auto industry.
6Iran starts National Hybrid Car Project to hybridize Runna
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Iran is getting ready to follow China's moves and try to reduce air pollution by bringing in more alterantive powertrain vehicles. As Iran's largest automaker, Iran Khodro Company (IKCO) will contribute to that goal by introducing the Runna plug-in hybrid car.
47Vets group says EPA should stand up to Big Oil, stand up for US military
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Hundreds of thousands of people are waiting for the US Environmental Protection Agency to issue its final ruling on the Renewable Fuel Standard (RFS). Over 110,000 signatures were collected by the group VoteVets.org (often politically active on energy issues), which delivered its petition with Congressman Bruce Braley (D-Iowa) to EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy. Over 35,000 of those signatures were from veterans and military family members.
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The big global news of late is a deal that sees a number of major powers easing some sanctions on Iran in return for the Middle Eastern nation scaling back its nuclear program. This thawing of relations between Iran and the West could have far-reaching impacts in both the near and long term, particularly on the auto industry.
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It's true. Top Gear has been hitting airwaves in Iran since 2009, and since then, the program has garnered an impressive following. Mozaffar Shafeie, an actor who translates Jeremy Clarkson's musings into Farsi for the show, routinely finds himself signing autographs for fans. While the BBC can't operate freely in the country, BBC Persian TV hosts Top Gear. When the station dropped the show to air an interview with then US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, BBC reports viewers accustomed to the
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We've reported before on the proliferation of natural-gas powered vehicles in the heavily oil-sanctioned state of Iran. Now we've got some further very dramatic circumstantial evidence that not all of the Compressed Natural Gas (CNG) vehicles are as safe as their Iranian owners would hope.
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Daimler is out, Toyota is out, Porsche is out, Hyundai, PSA Peugeot-Citroën are out and when it comes to selling cars in Iran, now Maserati and Lamborghini are out, too. The definitive pullouts of those last two automakers are said to be reactions to a press conference held by a group called United Against Nuclear Iran (UANI). The group highlights businesses that sell in both the US market and Iran, and works to get those businesses to choose one market or the other.
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A report in the Financial Times says that in Iran in 2006 there were 1,500 dual-fuel cars – those that can run on gasoline and on natural gas. In only seven years that number has climbed to 2.95 million. To serve them, where there were once just 60 refilling stations there are now 2,500. The switch to the alternative fuel has well publicized causes, namely the oil and financial sanctions enacted against Iran due to its nuclear research programs.
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A driver in Iran recently had a scare when his car exploded at a filling station. Details are scarce surrounding the video below, but from what we can discern, the driver of the white Iran Khodo Samand backed into the station and the attendant began filling his tank. When the driver and popped the trunk for a look inside, the vehicle exploded, knocking him to the ground. From the looks of things, neither the driver, the attendant nor the two individuals standing on the other side of the island w
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RM Auctions will sell the 1960 Plymouth XNR next month in Monterey, Calif. around the festivities of the annual Concourse d'Elegance, perhaps adding another adventure for the storied car with a fascinating history. The concept car penned by legendary Chrysler designer Virgil Exner was meant to take on the likes of the Chevrolet Corvette. It's high performance six-cylinder engine could create 250 horsepower and had a top speed of 150 mph.
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Fiat, Italy's largest automaker and the company in control of Chrysler, has announced that it is suspending sales to Iran amidst a wave of global sanctions against the Middle Eastern country's nuclear efforts. The automaker says this includes passenger cars, trucks and buses under its Iveco brand.
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