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Talk:Jeffrey Satinover
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Untitled comments[edit]
Author of 5 books is not notable enough? Also, I agree that the page needs more work; it'll get done. Yodaat 18:40, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
"e-mail interview with subject"[edit]
Bravejoints, while I respect the work involved in interviewing Jeffrey Satinover for this article, an unpublished interview is not an acceptable source for Wikipedia, which depends upon reliable published sources (see Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:Reliable sources), especially for potentially controversial material about living persons. If you could persuade Mr. Satinover to host the interview on his website, that would make it an acceptable source for non-contentious material provided that "the article is not based primarily" upon it ("Using the subject as a self-published source").
However, some statements in the article cannot be based purely on Mr. Satinover's own statements, whether those are published or not; for example, that one of his books "has been applauded by psychologists, psychiatrists, scientists and Protestant, Catholic, Jewish and Muslim religious leaders". Statements like this require independent sources. EALacey 14:21, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
The article says Satinover's writings 'lack the "New Age" features characteristic of most genuine Jungians.' This looks like a biased expression of opinion, and I am going to remove it in the near future unless someone can suggest a good reason why I shouldn't. Skoojal (talk) 23:28, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Recent edits[edit]
I've overhauled this entry to a far greater extent than I originally intended, so I though I'd post a bit of explanation. It was repetitious, and some of the repeated material was not referenced. I've tried to reorganize it with an emphasis on chronology, admittedly a bias of mine, which I hope will make it easier to improve in future. That means reworking from resume-style "He is past president of XXX" to "He was president of XXX in YEAR," which is normal bio style. I think I've only made 3 substantive contributions: (1) material from his NY Times wedding announcement, (2) his providing commentary in two documentary films, and (3) a re-write of his role in the Thomas hearings, which is well-documented. I've tried to maintain NPOV. The only bit I removed that I imagine someone might care about was an unreferenced statement that his work had been cited in many amicus curiae briefs. Since anyone can submit such briefs and cite anything they choose, it's really of no significance. The day a court decision cites his work, that will be news. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 15:03, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
I am new to Wikipedia but have tried to follow the example set above. I have further edited the section on Clarence Thomas. Some of the changes and their reasons are: 1) "lying" reworded--According to the DSM, a delusion is not a "lie" 2) Psychiatrists were brought in by both sides 3) Any of the psychiatrists brought in by both sides could have testified. None were willing to. 4) In the Kutchin reference, the reason for Satinover's change of mind is made explicit and reasonable. In omitting detail, Mayer and Abramson make it look like a deathbed conversion. 5) Catherine MacKinnon is extremely well-known as holding left and extreme opinions on a number of matters. The New York Times, "the paper of record" is a better representative of press opinion.
I have removed the reference to Emmanuel Margolis as I can find no evidence for it.
Querstion: Is it true that anyone may submit a brief to a court. If so, I will do so promptly ;)Greendorot (talk) 22:26, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
Edits to Jeffery Satinover page, describing his book, "Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth": There have been statements by other editors that make it seem like the book is mostly a Christian "evangelical" argument. It is not; it mostly talks about the genetics of of homosexuality and clearly argues at the question of whether homosexuality is so fixed that it cannot be changed. But this is my impression only. As a matter of fact (my edits are based on these facts), the book does not spend that much time talking about a "biblical" view of homosexuality, even if it does in a way that I find important yet balanced. The book is available in many libraries and there is kindle version. The book has 16 chapters. 9 chapters (almost 60%) discusses science and medicine. Most of this is about genetics and if homosexuality is genetic. 1 chapter (less than 10%) talks about Christian opinions 1 chapter talks about if treatment is a good idea or not, based on what someone wants 1 chapter talks about Jewish opinions 1 chapter talks about Christian treatments 1 chapter talks about secular treatments 1 chapter talks about philosophy and history Therefore, the book mostly analyzes science (9 chapters and part of 3 chapters) = 65% (estimate) About the bible, the book discusses 3 out of 16 chapters (but not al of these chapters) = 20% (estimate) About other matters, the book discusses 3 out of 16 chapters, too = 15% (estimate), a lot of this is review and analysis of history
So, I have made these changes: "makes a detailed analysis of homosexuality and of opinions about it. The book debates the nature of homosexuality from psychological, religious and scientific perspectives. Satinover argues that homosexuality involves compulsive impulses and "is not a true illness, though it may be thought an illness in the spiritual sense of 'soul sickness,' innate to fallen human nature."[13] He also argues that "gay activism distorts the truth and harms not only society, but homosexuals themselves". Most of the book discusses whether homosexuality is biological and genetic and if it can be changed. About one fifth of the book discusses human sexuality from Jewish and Christian perspectives."
Greendorot (talk) 15:47, 7 April 2012 (UTC)greendorot
I undid Jeremy112233 undoing of my last edit: Jeremy112233 undid because he/she thought two quotations were not direct quotations. But they are direct quotations of Satinover in two different interviews. If this is not made clear enough by how I referenced them, I welcome help. Bravejoints2 (talk) 19:42, 9 April 2012 (UTC)Bravejoints2
- It is a violation of WP:NOR to conduct a personal interview with the subject of the BLP in order to give him the opportunity to refute what he wrote in his published book. Jeremy112233's edits should have been left to stand. Furthermore, the fact that Bravejoints2 is doing this sort of thing supports my assertion (below) that s/he is engaged in editing this BLP primarily for the purpose of attempting to whitewash Satinover's actual record. --Branmuffin22 (talk) 18:09, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
I plan to remove from Branmuffin22(Branmuffin22), modified?) "Some groups who oppose the expansion of LGBT rights and protections have incorporated his research into their position papers.[19]" Is there evidence that Santinover has endorsed these groups and ALL of what they stand for? (guilt by association) He is on record for what he does stand for (I have added some of this). Anyone may cite who they want to but not every such site is important and cites may be selected in a bias way. Should Wikipedia group all cites of every living person [[Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons|living persons] or every person? I welcome responses. Bravejoints2 (talk) 21:18, 9 April 2012 (UTC)Bravejoints2
- That seems like an appropriate edit. I researched it for about an hour and couldn't find a rebuttal. Sean Egan (talk) 07:33, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
RESPONSE to question about bias[edit]
The edits I made were an attempt to show the manner in which Jeffrey Satinover's work has been used, not just in a few isolated instances, but consistently and frequently. The fact is, Satinover's writings are used pretty much exclusively by organizations that seek to dehumanize and undermine the civil rights and fair treatment of LGBT people. Far right-wing "Christian" groups and others, including some organizations that are classified as "Hate Groups" by the Southern Poverty Law Center, frequently cite Satinover's writings as evidence that LGBT people are "less-than" and should therefore be denied equal rights under the law. For fans of Satinover, this might be an inconvenient truth, but it is, nevertheless, the truth. I have never seen Satinover's writings used by any organization that stands for equality and fairness for LGBT people. Satinover's book, "Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth" problematizes the very existence of LGBT people. It is deeply, fundamentally, dehumanizing. It adopts a tone of "concern" for gay people, yet it cites outdated research--research discredited by the mainstream scientific community (e.g., the American Psychiatric Association and the American Psychological Association)-- to makes a case against LGBT people. It draws on the worst of anti-gay stereotypes: that gay people are diseased, promiscuous, predisposed to pedophilia, and incapable of love. It does all this in an attempt to portray the lives and loves of LGBT people (primarily gay men) as inferior. Satinover argues that LGBT people's very existence is wrong, and that they need to be changed. His service on the Scientific Advisory Committee of the National Association for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality ("NARTH") is further evidence of his point of view.
I can understand that people who have a personal fondness for Satinover may wish to whitewash these facts. Frankly, I'm tired of the back-and-forth editing on this. So, Satinover fans: You win. But I do hope that someone else who has the time and energy will step in and continue to try to show the full truth about what Satinover has said and written about LGBT people. And if Satinover, himself, has changed his views since the time "Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth" was published, then it is incumbent upon him to correct the record in an equally public and academic fashion. But currently, based on the vast body of evidence publicly available, there can be no question that Satinover sees LGBT people as intrinsically and definitionally inferior to heterosexuals.
And speaking of bias, it's interesting that in Bravejoints2's most recent edits, describing Satinover's expert testimony in the Florida adoption case, s/he managed to cherry-pick a handful of quotes that make Satinover appear to be a little less anti-gay. Given the preponderance of anti-LGBT writing and speaking in which Satinover has engaged, the selection of these quotes appears, to me, to be exactly the type of bias of which you have accused me.
--Branmuffin22 (talk) 17:05, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
- I would recommend not trying to alter the text of others, and instead to add constructively to the article. If you feel the quotes were cherry-picked, add some additional ones from the case that could balance out the coverage in the article instead of just trying to alter or erase what someone else has written. It sounds like your complaint is that there is not enough material from each side to balance each other out, so if you concentrate on adding constructively to this article on top of what is already here rather than trying to overhaul the entire thing you may end up with a more positive result. Just a thought. Jeremy112233 (talk) 12:42, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
I appreciate the suggestion, Jeremy112233, but if you look at the edit history, you'll see it is my text that keeps getting altered and deleted. I've tried doing precisely what you suggest, and one or two people keep deleting my edits and source notes to "spin" the article to make it more favorable to Satinover. It's entirely possible that Satinover himself, or someone acting on his behalf, is trying to whitewash his record. This is why I said I'm tired of the back-and-forth, and I'm hoping some fair-minded editors will get involved. --Branmuffin22 (talk) 14:56, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
I got a second wind, and decided to make some better and even more-thoroughly-researched edits. It will be interesting to see whether Satinover's defenders try to undo these edits, too. --Branmuffin22 (talk) 16:28, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- I'm going to stay neutral on this one, but to say that the other editor [Bravejoints2] does have a single purpose user account and seems to know a lot about Wikipedia--which says to me that either he has only ever edited from an IP address in the past, and just now got an account, or the user may be using multiple accounts. It is best to assume good faith, but I do find it suspicious. I have no problem at all with paid editing if that's what it is, however I am against any paid advocacy or the use of multiple accounts as it is breaks Wikipedia policy.Jeremy112233 (talk) 17:16, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- Bravejoints2, the editor who has been primarily responsible for revising this article to whitewash the things Satinover has actually written and said about LGBT people, admits himself that s/he has some tie to Satinover. Bravejoints2 said he has interviewed Satinover for this article (which strikes me as a violation of WP:NOR). Bravejoints2 stated, below, that "In an email I alerted Satinover to what was happening on Wikipedia." --Branmuffin22 (talk) 18:09, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Why is a marriage notice from the 1980's important? Responses welcome. Bravejoints2 (talk) 21:36, 9 April 2012 (UTC)Bravejoints2
- Satinover has testified against same-sex marriage, and in his book, "Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth," Satinover argues that gay people are universally promiscuous and incapable of forming lasting, loving relationships. Some have used Satinover's work to argue that the growing acceptance of same-sex marriage points to the end of the world. The section you recently added describing Satinover's views on gay adoption quotes him as saying that divorce is a "form[] of heterosexual misbehavior." So yes, the fact that Satinover himself is divorced and remarried is very relevant.
--Branmuffin22 (talk) 15:15, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- Branmuffin, your argument is completely against policy. We do not write articles to demonstrate that a subject is a hypocrite. That is original research and violates WP:OR. In the particular case, inclusion or exclusion of his divorce is governed by WP:DUE. The bit about his divorce seems to be a minor fact. Had his ex-wife been notable, or even named, then the item would be a good candidate for inclusion. If you have an argument based on policy, i.e. WP:DUE, then let's hear it.– Lionel (talk) 09:05, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Bias: Not cherries, baneberries[edit]
The below comments refer only (at present) to Branmuffin22's use of Stuart Chambers' book, that "analyzes" Satinover. I have attempted to provide specifics as to why Branmuffin22's comments are in violation of Wikipedia guidelines.
Regarding the reliability of sources, Wikipedia states that "articles should be based on reliable, published sources, making sure that all majority and significant minority views that have appeared in those sources are covered (see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view). The word "source" as used on Wikipedia has three related meanings: the piece of work itself (the article, book), the creator of the work (the writer, journalist), and the publisher of the work (for example, Random House or Cambridge University Press). All three can affect reliability. Reliable sources may be published materials with a reliable publication process, authors who are regarded as authoritative in relation to the subject, or both. Furthermore, "Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately, especially if potentially libelous or harmful. (March 2012)"
By implication, Wikipedia editors should not merely troll the internet to leap at the first reference that suits their POV. I am concerned that Branmuffin22 has done just that as evidenced by the following facts, available to anyone who makes even a minimal effort:
1) "Reliable sources may be published materials with a reliable publication process, authors who are regarded as authoritative in relation to the subject, or both"
Although Google Books lists him as a "Professor" and elsewhere as a "scientist" at the University of Ottowa (as repeated by Barnmuffin22), the blurb for Chambers' book states that he has a Master's degree from this University and that he became interested in the subject as an undergraduate. He is cited approvingly by a former student as a High School teacher. I can find no evidence that he has the credentials Wikipedia requires.
Chambers appears to have published nothing in any scientific or social science journal. He is not referenced on CiteSeer or SSRN. His book is referenced in Google Scholar (which returns to Google Books only) but shows no outside citations of it—i.e., this Wikipedia article will be the first such.
2) reliability of "...the publisher of the work (for example, Random House or Cambridge University Press)"
The book appears to have been published by a vanity press in Ottowa (http://www.gsph.com). It is unavailable in public libraries in, for example, Miami, Dade County, Florida. Its Amazon rank is over 6,000,000 and it has no reader reviews. Not even Library Journal has reviewed it. (By contrast, "Birdwatching for Dummies" is ranked at about 216,000 and has 18 reviews.)
3) "All majority and significant minority views that have appeared in those sources are covered (see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view)."
I guess no prob here as there is no coverage in this book of any other point of view (see point 4). Even as a formality, reliable sources give at least lip service to opposing viewpoints.
4) "Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately"
In accord with his previous statements in Talk ("any means necessary"), by referring readers to this book, Branmuffin22 is indirectly claiming about Satinover that he is, in addition to a homophobe,
-- a "...poster boy for neo-con psychiatry [sic]" --"you cannot teach an old dog new tricks" --"purely nonsensical" --"difficult to believe he holds degrees from M.I.T and Harvard" --"pathetically preachy" --"does not bode well for Jeffrey Satinover's future business"
5) "...especially if potentially libelous or harmful. (March 2012)"
I do not know whether there is any further accountability that may be found within Wikipedia. In an email I alerted Satinover to what was happening on Wikipedia. (I previously interviewed Satinover, and then added to his Wikipedia article, though anyone may easily find how to contact him.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bravejoints2 (talk • contribs) 22:43, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
- Hmm. I removed that text per WP:SYNTH before I read these remarks, but the questions raised here about Chambers' scholarship are actually a more compelling argument for exclusion.
- Should Dr. Satinover come to the page, although I suspect that a MIT/Harvard/Yale grad has far better things to do than edit Wikipedia, he should peruse WP:COI. – Lionel (talk) 09:20, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- Stuart Chambers' book, The Moral Minority: Identifying, Analyzing, and Exposing Homophobes, is no less credible than Satinover's own book, Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth, which is published by an Evangelical Christian book publisher. You are concerned that Chambers has potentially libeled Satinover? Funny. Satinover has devoted a significant portion of his career to stereotyping, defaming and dehumanizing all LGBT people, yet you seem entirely unconcerned about that. Read Satinover's book Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth, and listen to what he has said. Apparently, some people are impressed with Satinover's degrees, and Satinover has used them to try to gain credibility for his work. This is why hate groups cite him over and over and over. Yet as someone with a Harvard degree of my own, I know that the overwhelming majority of people in the credible community of therapists, psychiatrists, and psychoanalysts fundamentally disagree with most of what Satinover has written and said about LGBT people. Mainstream medical and scientific organizations say the sort of "conversion therapy" that Satinover advocates is "potentially harmful." Satinover is well outside the mainstream and, in order have any semblance of objectivity, this article needs to reflect that.--Branmuffin22 (talk) 18:09, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Possible solution to contention over homosexuality[edit]
Why is there so much information regarding the content of his work regarding homosexuality? The guy isn't mostly known for his anti-gay rhetoric. He's really scarcely known at all. Couldn't there be a couple sentences that go as follows:
- This dude is a physicist. Oddly enough, he published a book about homosexuality and doesn't like the fact that it exists. Here's a link to a wikipedia page about the book. Double bracket Name of book reverse double bracket.
Then you can add this stuff to the page about the book. That would be so much more appropriate! And you guys have basically already done all the legwork needed!
In addition, couldn't we do the same with the Florida case, which already has a page? Right now this page reads as an anti-gay advocacy page with interjections from a pro-gay advocate. (Very ANTI Wikipedian...) What I read from it is:
- This dude is a physicist. Physicists are smart. He's been in films like What the bleep do we know. He doesn't like gays. So there's an educated dude that doesn't like gays. And he wrote a book about it. Here's some main points of his book. But his arguments are wrong. But they aren't. But they are. But they aren't. But they are good points. Let's not like gay people. But that's stupid.
As a neutral third party who hasn't contributed, I find it a tad inappropriate. Can we fix it? I know you've put hard work into this and I think it's great! It's just not appropriate for a biographical page. Sean Egan (talk) 07:58, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
- You make some fair points, Sean Egan. The length of this article is far greater than is warranted for a person of Satinover's stature. Anyone familiar with Satinover's work knows he's a fringe character. Yes, he has degrees from some impressive-sounding schools, but so do a lot of people. (Did I mention I have a Harvard degree, too? LOL) He is not well known. His writings on two major subjects—homosexuality and so-called "Bible codes"—are well outside the mainstream, although they are well-known in certain circles.
- Here, I think, are the most salient bits of information about Satinover (i.e., the stuff for which he is most historically noteworthy) in order of importance:
- 1. He wrote a book in 1996, oft-cited by extreme right religious groups, problematizing homosexuality and arguing that gays need to be changed, contrary to the mainstream view of all major scientific and medical organizations. He believes that homosexuality was improperly declassified by the American Psychiatric Association as a mental illness.
- 2. He had a major role in getting Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas confirmed, positing that Anita Hill suffered from the delusional disorder "erotomania."
- 3. He's testified in favor of anti-gay policy (the Florida anti-gay adoption ban, the last remaining one of its kind in the United States, overturned in 2010), and against pro-gay legislation (Massachusetts same-sex marriage law, passed in 2004).
- 4. He believes there are secret hidden messages within the texts of the Bible. He wrote a book on it.
- 5. He was featured as a spokesperson in the New Age film "What the Bleep to We Know?"
- 6. He writes on game theory. He's trained as a physicist. He's trained as a Jungian psychologist. Nowadays, he fancies himself an investment manager.
- No bio of Satinover would be complete without stating the fact that his writings on gays have been picked up and popularized by fringe groups, who frequently cite him as an authority because of his impressive-sounding credentials.
- About a month ago, Bmclaughlin9 made edits to this bio that struck me as very wise. S/he significantly shortened and improved upon the article. Bravejoints2, who acknowledges s/he has done original research and interviewed Satinover for this bio, added most of it back. This article needs to become less of a "puff piece" on Satinover, and be shortened to a length commensurate with Satinover's historical stature. Take a look at the article on Scott Lively for an example of one on a controversial figure that is of appropriate length given the guy's stature. --Branmuffin22 (talk) 13:31, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
I agree that the bio on Satinover has exceeded his interest, as expanded abruptly in March. However as BLPs are to be corrected immediately I have done so (without removing comments, as warned) by adding references and information that counterbalances what could easily look like (looks to me like) a campaign to present just one dimension of his POV. I have read his book and other writings and what he gets across isn't at all just shallow bigotry. Satinover is pretty explicit in "not liking" gay activists. Though agreeing with Sean's POV about how this debate should be represented in W, I am uncomfortable with his (OK, maybe tongue in cheek) presumption that Satinover "doesn't like gays", especially as all talk on W is public. If it was ironic, it may not come across that way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bravejoints2 (talk • contribs) 22:28, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Edit conflict over "Trojan Couch" and "fringe" ideas[edit]
"A Wikipedia article about a fringe theory should not make it appear more notable than it is."
Santinover's book and other writings have been brought up and broadly criticized in this article using numerous references to "non-mainstream" organizations who quote him. These have not been removed (have been restored, in fact, when I tried to delete them as being guilt by association). The topic of what his point of view actually is completely fair--not just those parts of his thinking chosen by critics. A major part of the book is about his conviction that homsosexuality is potentially changeable for many, as well as his documentation then and later that the scientific record has been distorted in the public debate. (The claims he makes refer to a wide body of scientific literature, not just bible quotes) Stating that he stated this should scarcely be off limits when his pov is being described as not-mainstream). It has been argued that he doesn't deserve a wiki page--that's fine, but if one is going to be kept up while he's alive it should if anything err in the opposite direction of the critiques, if at all possible.
"Claims must be based upon independent reliable sources." He has supported his claims with innumerable references in both his book and Trojan Couch (OK, my opinion). But the work he did there was good ebough to find its way into court briefs on what is probably the most contentious social debate now. So don't censor him as it were. The original delete of my stating this made the slightly odd point (imo) that his own words don't count. I added additional references...
"An idea that is not broadly supported by scholarship in its field must not be given undue weight in an article about a mainstream idea" it isn't. But neither should selected aspects of his POV be erased and others kept in order to avoid presenting his claims fairly.
"and reliable sources must be cited that affirm the relationship of the marginal idea to the mainstream idea in a serious and substantial manner." Scholars at the National University of Suingapore don't count? Why not? The references I included that reference his work (as suggested was needed) are a mix of primary and popular sources no less "fringe" than the references used by others that are truly irrelevant, such as that yet other groups use his work in a way some authors don't like.
I have a very strong impression of an organzied effort to one the one hand make sure his reputation is tarnished and other to supress hos actual point of view.
Furthermore, that homosexuality is potentially changeable is NOT a fringe view. It is a minority view that is actively agitated against not so much scientifically as politically, a point he makes with sufficent evidence as to attract precisely this kind of distortion.
Bravejoints2 (talk)Bravejoints2 —Preceding undated comment added 21:42, 10 May 2012 (UTC).
- The "Fringe" nature is due to the lack of reliability of your sources. The websites you are using are not reliable. If you can research and find books published by legitimate publishers, or articles published in notable magazines or journals, then there would be an argument that it is not "Fringe". If you provided proper research, no one would have reason to revert your additions, however the refernces you are using are not collectively notable or reliable enough. There is no organized effort to tarnish the reputation of the subject; it is that the research being done by yourself is not up to Wikipedia standards. It is not so much the content of what you are saying, but that there has been no work done to ensure the referencing is to Wikipedia standards. As for his own works, "The Trojan Couch" does not come from a reliable or notable publisher, so it cannot be used in lieu of what is stated in more legitimate publications. Any additional refences will have to be reliable and notable; not non-notable websites and self-published literature.
- I am trying to point you in the right direction here in terms of Wikipedia style; I have no personal interest in the content you are trying to post as long as it is done properly.Jeremy112233 (talk) 21:50, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
- Very well, thank you for your politeness and explanation. I will respond in greater detail before re-editing. One comment and one question. Comment: It seems evidently improper for W to make claims about someone but then be prohibited from simply using his own prior words as an explanation/rebuttal. But this is a point I will make here with more pointed evidence to support its reasonableness.
- Question: Is Wikipedia itself considered a "reliable source"?
Bravejoints2 (talk) 19:35, 11 May 2012 (UTC)Bravejoints2
- No, Wikipedia is not a reliable source, because it is a composite of third-party sources and not a source itself. Think of this like a law review--you can never cite an article citing a different article, you must find the original source and cite that (only here its not quite as stringent). If you feel that the sources others have used are not reliable, you can feel free to remove those--though you have to be certain they do not fall under the category of notability or reliability and are not just antithetical to your argument. You can use well-sourced Sanitover quotations or references (as long as they are not self-published or published in a non-reliable/notable form), but they cannot trump a different reliable source just because they're in the words of the subject. In instances of this, both points of view must be left to stand. Ideas and opinions about the subject of an article are considered valid foder for a Wikipedia page if sourced properly. I'd said this before, but, try to add and not subtract from articles, unless there is a glaring error in Wikipedia policy--someone not using the right sources is usually the only one that will stick without a fight. Neutral parties will decide of the amalgamation of different editors' words need to be reduced after such a product is made.Jeremy112233 (talk) 20:35, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
- Satinover's book predents an interesting case. On one hand in order to understand the book a detailed synopsis is essential. On the other hand it is also important to have critical review. The standard article structure for books is to have the detailed summary in one section, and critical response following in a seperate section. See [1] and [2]. The summary does not require a citation because it is understood that the book itself is the source. This means that the ideas and details of the book are presented first--without commentary. And then the commentary follows. – Lionel (talk) 02:26, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
- The fact that some people still think Satinover's book presents an "interesting case" is, to me, evidence that homophobia is the last acceptable bias. Some of the precepts on which Satinover bases his theories can only be described as stereotypes (very ugly ones at that), and that fact that some people do not have the consciousness to even be able to see that tells me we have a long way to go before society accepts LGBT people as fully human, deserving of the same respect, dignity, rights and freedoms as everyone else. Imagine, for example, Satinover had written a book problematizing the very existence of women, Jews, or Asians. I think the discussion on these pages would be quite different. Be that as it may, Satinover's ideas have been influential enough, and have garnered enough attention, to probably be worthy of a Wikipedia page. The page should summarize Satinover's ideas as objectively as possible. The reader can decide what to make of him. --Branmuffin22 (talk) 14:36, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
Sorry for the drive-by tag. This article has POV issues. The most obvious upon intial examination were the frequent use of WP:WEASEL & WP:PEACOCK words, as well as a bit of editorializing WP:EDITORIAL. Examples:
- " It is written for a well-educated, general readership, but it has been cited in a number of scientific publications"
- "He is known for books on a number of controversial topics in physics and neuroscience, and on religion, but especially for his writing"
- "Most of the book discusses whether homosexuality is biological"
Another issue is the "biography" section, which currently reads like a CV or academic resume, not a prose biography of notable life events. Bryan Hopping T 04:34, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Orthodox Jew?[edit]
Footnote 1 does indeed say Satinover is Jewish Orthodox. The source arguably meets Wiki RS, but has an obvious bias.
In context that Satinover also teaches at an affiliate of Campus Crusade for Christ, and in view of his many other research interests, how orthodox could he be, really? Does anybody else agree this should be deleted?JerryRussell (talk) 22:56, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
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Social Development Theory
Lev Vygotsky was the originator of Social Development Theory. In this theory, social interaction is the basis for cognitive development. Thinking and learning is a product of social interactions between the individual and others, according to Vygotsky.
Main Characteristics
Zone of Proximal Development: One of the keys to Vygotsky's theory was the "zone of proximal development", as he called it. The zone of proximal development deals with the gap between what an individual is capable of performing without assistance, and what an individual is potentially capable of doing without guidance from another.
The following video demonstrates the idea of the "Zone of Proximal Development"
Learning Based on Social Interaction: The participants that thus make up this theory are the individuals in development, and those who are guiding or teaching the individual within the zone of proximal development. Without this interaction, the gap never closes and development will not occur.
Language: Language plays an important role in Vygotsky's theory. Inner speech is the internalization of external speech and learned items. Without this inner speech, the higher levels of thinking are not possible.
Scaffolding Model: The Zone of Proximal Development has been modified to include the term "scaffolding". This is the process by which a child's cognition is slowly built up by closing the gap between what a child can do individually vs. without help. This process has proved useful to teachers as a means of basing education on a gradual process.
Lacks Recognition of Child: The cognitive development of the child is not thoroughly explained in Social Development Theory. Children are seen as absorbing information through social interaction. It does not account for the other end of the spectrum. Learning is an active process and thought and cognition must be going on in order to advance. This can happen at varying degrees, depending on many factors such as genetics. It is hard to simplify it down to one single process of absorbance.
How is completely new information acquired and manipulated when nobody is teaching it?
Without a more knowledgeable source to teach it, how are new inventions and new ideas created. How did Albert Einstein first develop his theory of relativity? He was the most knowledgeable source within his studies. This is not accounted for in Social Development Theory.
Vygotsky and Social Constructivism
Lev Vygotsky's theory revolves around social interaction and teachers being able to facilitate an environment that can promote this. The term social constructivism is often used when referring to Vygotsky, because children learn to construct their own meanings and knowledge of the world through their interactions with others. Teachers play a role in this by creating an environment where children can work together and learn from each other as well as their teacher.
Collaborative group work and student interaction is the focus of a Vygotskian-based classroom, with the teacher facilitating discussions and learning, not directly instructing everything. Vygotsky also believed that teaching others/ helping others allows for greater retention for the helper and the person being helped. By having students teach each other, both sides can benefit from this interaction.
|The learning pyramid relates to Vygotsky's theories of learning through social interactions
Social Constructivism and Technology
Telecommunication tools such as E-mail and online discussion boards can be used to facilitate dialogues and debates; in addition students can exchange ideas with other students, teachers, and other professionals that are outside of their classroom. This interaction through the use of telecommunication tools will lead to the social construction of meaning. According to Vygotsky the goal for using technology should be to connect students to one another. The goal of integrating this type of technology in the Vygotskian classroom is to expose students to a collabrative process that they will probably encounter in the real world.
Classroom Instruction
One activity that can be done in a classroom to incorporate Vygotsky theory is to have students select an age/grade appropriate topic to discover and write about. The goal would be for student to work together to create a finial project about a topic of their choice. For example, a second grade classroom may decide on emotions for their topic. They will work together to find out as much they can about different emotions. They may then decide for each student to portray a different emotion. They can each do so by creating a drawing and brief caption on the computer (through paint or a similar program) to describe the emotion they illustrated. The different illustrations can then be compiled into a power point to present their findings.
An activity to help kindergarteners learn about colors and shapes would be to put them into small groups and hand out many different objects of different colors and shapes. Students would have to place the objects in some sort of category and then explain why they did so. This allows students to figure out on their own how to distinguish things because of color or shape.
Other activity would be to simply group students together, being sure to have students of different intellectual abilities in each group. As students work to research, read, write, or do any sort of activity, they will learn from each other's strengths and weaknesses and build off one another.
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The best way to enjoy this 1997 thriller is to forget the much better film that inspired it (1973's The Day of the Jackal) and get whatever kicks you can from this heavy-metal remake. It's not bad as hokey thrillers go, but all of the original film's suspenseful finesse has been traded in (not traded up) for bigger, bolder action and nonsensical plotting. It's as if Hollywood had forgotten to create excitement without resorting to overblown action and heavy hardware, but there's ample compensation in the casting of Bruce Willis and Richard Gere. Willis is the elusive assassin known only as the Jackal, whose latest target (he uses a cannon-sized gun that's anything but inconspicuous) may be the first lady of the United States. Gere plays a former IRA terrorist who is recruited by the deputy head of the FBI (Sidney Poitier) to trace the Jackal's maneuvers, and Diane Venora offers some gutsy support as a Russian-born agent who assists Gere on his mission. The movie has fun turning Willis into a master of disguise, and Gere adds much-needed gravity to counter the plot's escalating absurdity, but this is the kind of film that falls apart if you think about it too much. --Jeff Shannon
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Note: Jack Black makes an appearance in this movie. This is one of the first movies I remember seeing him in. I won't give away what happens to him, but it definitely left an imprint in my mind.
This may be the best Willis performance ever. The movie is violent, yet, it is to an extreme, not gorey violence but it reflects the violent nature of the legend. Richard Gere is cast well, a little less believable than Willis, yet he does a good job of being intense in tracking Carlos the Jackal. The issue here is what will Jackal do next? Can he be stoppped?
Jack Black plays a very believable role of a somewhat bystander who meets a very violent end. You may want to close your eyes for that one.
I recommend not drinking any caffiene before this movie because it creates an edge right from the beginning. What was telling to me was that every interaction that Willis has creates tension, whether or not he is violent, you feel he may be at any time.
This movie of course is not for everyone yet it is not an action thriller that is silly in nature with gratuitous violence. It seems more of a lesson of the violent nature of the worst criminals in the world.
Gere plays Declan Mulqueen, an IRA terrorist who is in prison. He and Mathilda May were former lovers and worked with Willis, but he betrayed them. Diana Devora is a Russian intelligence officer, Valentina Koslova. She is working with Carter Preston US intelligence officer (Sidney Poitier) in taking down Russian Mafia. Only the Mafia wants to strike back and send the Jackal - Willis - on a assassination to make a statement by killing the First Lady. Devora and Poitier get Gere out of English jail, on a temporary leave, to help track down Willis. Willis is a master of disguise, so only Gere stands a chance of tracking him down before he completes his mission.
It's fast paced, yet leisurely plots Willis preparations for the kill. Well done from start to finish. Not better than the original, but just as enjoyable. Excellent soundtrack as well.
However, there are two reasons I give the film three stars instead of five. First of all, the storyline is rather weak. The film centers around one major hit that Bruce Willis is supposed to make yet the greater portion of the movie deals with his simply preparing for the hit. While action still abounds, it leaves the viewer to wonder if you will ever get to the actual job. Why he needed such a special and expensive gun is never explained. The viewer is also left to wonder what happened to the Russian criminal that hired Bruce Willis in the first place. The final reason I gave this film only three stars is Richard Gere. While I like Gere and his acting, I do have to wonder why anyone would have him play an Irishman. His accent was pathetic at best.
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My son loved watching this on cartoon network in December but of course they stopped playing it after Christmas. So I was very happy to find I could buy it at walmart. It is now March and he still ask to watch it. So cute he actually hums the nutcracker music sometimes.
I saw this movie and bought it for my four year old. I figure that she is too young to understand the real nutcracker ballet, but I had never seen this version and was worried. She loved it... as did I. It is nothing like watching the ballet, but is fun none-the-less.
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In this violently passionate, "darkly fascinating world", the Blood rule: a race of witches and warlocks whose power is channeled through magical jewels. Ambitions unfurl in this second novel of series, as the realm's dreams of a liberator have finally been made flesh: Jaenelle, singled out by prophecy as the living embodiment of magic, is haunted by the cruel battles the Blood have fought over her - for not all of them await her as their Savior.
Nothing, however, can deflect her from her destiny - and the day of reckoning looms near. When her memories return. When her magic matures. When she is forced to accept her fate. On that day, the dark Realms will know what it means to be ruled by Witch.
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"Bishop subverts readers' expectations; the 'darkest' powers reside in virtuous characters, demons and vampires are kindly, and Jaenelle's adolescence is more comically normal than horrific. Her vibrant characters and descriptions will keep readers hooked, anxiously awaiting what promises to be a riveting conclusion." (Amazon.com review)
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It took me a full year to build up the courage to listen to HEIR TO THE SHADOWS after being thoroughly traumatized by book 1. I really love Anne Bishop's THE OTHERS series, and I'm a firm believer in second chances when it comes to authors, so after twelve months of mental preparation, here we go again. It's with a massive sigh of relief that I write this review because A) no nightmares & B) this installment was a vast improvement upon the previous one. It was slow paced, and was more about the dialogue than the action, but we're definitely getting somewhere.
This novel concentrated on Jaenelle's road to recovery; after two years in a coma, she must battle her way back to sanity, and then take the necessary steps in order to become the Queen she was meant to be. The story followed Angelline from the age of twelve to twenty, so it's best to minimize the number of sessions spent reading this book in order to avoid confusing the timeline. Lots of character development takes place, both where the protagonist was concerned as well as the secondaries, and all of the chess pieces were brought to the fore, including the kindred—wolves, unicorns & dragons!
Even though THE BLACK JEWELS series now has nine volumes under its wing, it was originally a trilogy, so this installment felt like it was the limbo between books 1 & 3 which explains its lack of major intrigue. By the end of this novel everything was in place for an earth-shaking payoff, except the love interest. Daemon Sadi was off in cuckoo land, but other than that I was able to better appreciate Bishop's Dark Fantasy because this story was minus the truly heinous tidbits; however that doesn't mean that the author dons kid gloves. Every character is still fair game.
John Sharian's narration didn't creep me out nearly as much as it did in DAUGHTER OF THE BLOOD. I still question the producer's decision to go with a male voice for this series, but Angelline's entourage is a sausage fest, so with the more disturbing aspects behind us, he's growing on me. Sharian's ominous tone actually worked to his advantage when he mimicked Jaenelle's 'midnight voice', and I thought that he was reasonably adept at keeping the plethora of personas separate, although he does goof on occasion, and slips into his staple timbre when he shouldn't.
HEIR TO THE SHADOWS was almost good. I'm eager for Anne Bishop to bring it home with QUEEN OF THE DARKNESS. ~3.5 stars
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The continuation of the Dark Jewel series. Just as good, just as suspenseful and wonderfully entertaining. Sit back and enjoy...
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The basic story is great and very entertaining, but I'm not a fan of many author's excessive use of sexual depravity and abuse these days. By the end of this series you'll be very tired of hearing "he said too softly". Not sure what that means either.
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I love this series. I can not talk how amazing the characters are and how Mrs. Anne bishop wraps them around your heart.
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Heir to the Shadow was even better than the first (Daughter of the Blood). I must download the third immediately. Immediately, I say.
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I read this series awhile back and enjoyed the books tremendously. Listening to them this time around was great fun the narration was excellent and added much to the story and the pleasure of listening to an Anne Bishop favorite. Thanks
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"Dark Jewels in my heart"
I own this book and audio and I just love the world that Anne Bishop has spun. I've read this book over 30 times and I never want the words to end. It was interesting hearing the narrator read. I'm not to fond of how he pronounced many words because it changed the story I see in my head. It took a lot to adjust to how he reads but all in all not a bad job. I'll never tire of the Dark Jewels.
"A Jewel of A Series"
I love the whole series. John Sharian really does a wonderful job on the characterizations.
Listening to the stories makes me want to see Kaleer and Ebon Askavi and meet the Sa Diablos.
Daemon SaDi. I like the way he's portrayed as protective of all the people he cares about but also how he would not hesitate to defy the Aristos who tried to keep him subservient.
He has a talent for voices. Everyone was different and surprisingly they fit each character.
When one of the Kindred tiger kittens forged a friendship with a little girl and then rescued her after her mother was killed when their village wad raided.
I was saddened when this series ended but I am so glad that I got a chance to experience it audibly. It's wonderful.
"Story line not as strong as first book"
This is a filler book. In my opinion, the story isn't as compelling, but it is necessary to complete the completion of the trilogy. If you use logic, one could easily see what needs to happen in order for Jaenelle to become Witch, dreams come to life, and Daemon to return to be her consort. Not particularly thrilling, but not bad enough to not want to see the final chapter. Honestly, I am just thinking about re reading the last book instead of listening to the audio version.
This continues the story of Jaenelle growing up and leading to adulthood. The narrator's voices are right on and I can't think of another narrator who would do a better job unless a bunch of people did it. He is spot on with all of his characterizations and all the different episodes that happen. If you know the stories from reading them, then you can understand the narrator and enjoy his naration. This is a great book and continues a great story! Can't wait for Queen to come out in a couple months!! Keep up the great work John Sharian!
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To put it mildly, the Lone Star State is loaded at running back. With about 20 prospects who will sign with FBS programs in February 2011, college recruiters have flocked to the state in search of difference-making backs. Baylor, which snagged Brandon Williams (Brookshire, Texas/Royal), and Texas Tech, which got a verbal from Kenny Williams (Pflugerville, Texas), are among the programs that have secured commits from a talented batch of Lone Star State runners. Here is a look at the top backs in ...
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Streetcar named Desire.
New York] New Directions [1947]
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This is probably the most famous piece of literature from the US that I hadn'd read yet, until now. Nor watched as a play or movie. And still I seemed to know everything about it. Having just read Gore Vidal's memoirs, where he calls TW the 'glorious bird', I was motivated to finally get acquainted with the streetcar. What fun. It is Gone with the Wind updated for the 20th century. It is the downsizing of rural gentry. It shows downward social mobility in a narrative framework of Southern Gothic. It is powerfully vulgar and perceptive. It is so politically not correct. ('Polacks are like Irish, only less highbrow.') But with all the mad fun, let's be clear about this: despite the popular use of the term 'tragic' for the descent of Ms. Blanche into madness, this is not really a tragedy in the full sense of the word. Being a piece of stage writing makes it one only in the sense of not being a comedy. What it is, it is a really great melodrama. A word about the genius casting for the movie: Marlon Brando dominated it more than the text justifies. Gore Vidal says in his memoirs that Kazan actually destroyed the play by pushing the Blanche character into 2nd row. He says that TW did not mind, since it made him famous.
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I was fulfilling your request for Nelly McNulty and Evergreen Cemetery today. I had to look finding her but I found a Nelly Wilken who has the same birth year and same death year so I think they might be the same person. I'm going to add that photograph to your request. I'm also going to add the other three people on that headstone and turnover management of those people to you. If they help you great. If they're not who you are looking for you can transfer the management back to me if you like.
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You requested a photo of a grave in Memorial Oaks cemetery in Houston, Texas. I went there today and asked them for the location of the grave, but they said they couldn't give me the location because I'm not family.
I would be more than happy to shoot the grave if you would be kind enough to call them and ask them the location of the grave.
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Yes, I would like additional information of Dolores Springer's family. I would appreciate it.
Loved the photos you put in in on your grandmother's and grandfather's site. This makes the person become more REAL to me, seeing photos.
At least we are half- cousins down the line.
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I thought you were the granddaughter of Otto and Julia Springer- Just found who your grandmother is. But if you would like the information on the Springer family - don't hesitate to email me.
Otto Springer is my 3rd cousin 1x removed.
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This is going to seem like a really trite way to begin a food blog post, but nonetheless, here it is: I am so thankful for food. I started thinking about it this month, when Tim and I began doing a weekly cleanse/detox day and I saw, again, how food affects my body. I thought about it when I read some recent posts (which you really ought to check out if you haven't already) over at Roost and Honey & Salt, which tell the stories of people totally changing the way they eat in order to improve their health. Also, there have been long conversations about nutrition on Friday nights, random chats on the phone and with roommates about digestion, the ever-growing and expanding sea (ocean!) of food blogs out there, which continually blow. me. away. with the diversity and scope and perspectives and recipes. But mostly, it's just been the food itself. I mean, man. Sometimes I'll look at a blueberry or a lemon or an egg and think, you know, God didn't have to give … [Read more...]
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Warren Joseph Jensen, 91, of Springfield died April 30, 2013, at St. John Luther-an Home in Springfield.
Visitation will be May 7 from 9:30 a.m. until 10:30 a.m. at the Sundown Lutheran Church in Sundown Township.
Service will be held at the Sundown Lutheran Church in Sundown Township Tuesday, May 7, 2013, at 10:30 a.m.
Interment will be at the Sundown Lutheran Cemetery in Springfield.
Arrangements are with the Sturm Funeral Home in Springfield.
Online condolences may be left for the family at www.sturmfh.com.
Warren J. Jensen was born September 24, 1921, to Otto and Tilda (Meyer) Jensen at the family home in Sundown in Redwood County.
On August 21, 1953 he married Greta Bredvold. They lived and farmed in Sundown Township, Redwood County. To this union three children were born: Jodi, Paula, and Steve.
Warren was a lifelong member of Sundown Lutheran Church.
There he was baptized, confirmed and served in many capacities during his lifetime. Warren was a Gideon and a member of the Clements Lions Club. He also served on the school board for School District #1750 and was a member of the Friends of Gilfillan, Farm Bureau, Sundown Saddle Club, and the Minn-I-Kota Arabian Club. He competed in the State and National Corn Husking competitions.
This kind and loving man is survived by his wife – Greta; daughters – Jodi (Del) Dalsgaard of Springfield, Paula (Jim) Mandeville of Columbus, Mont., son – Steve (Samantha) Jensen of Scottsdale, Ariz.; his seven grandsons – Timothy and Peter Dalsgaard, Benjamin and Steve Mandeville, Parker, Matthew and Christopher Jensen; a brother-in-law – Ralph Steiner and nieces and nephews.
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The Supreme Assembly of the Nakhchivan Autonomous Republic (Azerbaijani: Naxçıvan Muxtar Respublikasının Ali Məclisi) is the legislative assembly of Nakhchivan. It was established in 1990 when Nakchivan declared independence from the Soviet Union to become an autonomous republic of Azerbaijan. It governs the autonomous republic and is subordinate to the National Assembly of Azerbaijan. The current parliamentary chairman since 1994, and de facto leader of Nakhchivan, is Vasif Talibov.[1]
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