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The other reviews of this product are clearly fake. All but three of the reviews contain similar types of phrasing and errors in grammar. If I'm to trust Overstock as a source of crowd reviews, then it should limit the review of items to only those who have purchased the item on this site as well as do IP checks - multiple reviews from the same IP should be deleted. I will only buy furniture from Overstock if I have researched it elsewhere on more trusted and monitored reviewed site.
I was a little skeptical at first to buy a couch that I've never sat on nor seen in person but the positives reviews gave me the boost I needed and I'm glad I pulled the trigger. The complete assembly can be sone in <30 minutes (you won't need an engineering degree like with Ikea stuff). It's somewhat firm yet pretty comfortable. Overnight guests may find it quite pleasing at first but won't be looking to overextend their stay (plus). The fold-up/fold-down mechanism is a bit tricky at first but once you get the hang of it, it can be relatively smooth. Overall great couch for small budget that i would definitely recommend.
We purchased this for our vacation home so it should have lasted forever. POORLY Designed--it is constructed on two chair type halves that you need to screw together with two "repair" straps--flimsy 3" x 4" cheap metal straps with screw holes that are used to literally strap the two halves together at the bottom. This is why is has 6 legs--the two middle legs prop up the center where is split in half. The two center legs are screwed into the center of the metal straps and are only held in by about three screw threads! Well, as you probably predicted the center leg begins to buckle and pulls the screws out/strips it and the piece literally folds in half. Also, it is only used by my 115lb mother too. It appears they were too cheap to design one from scratch and instead used two convertible chairs. Also note---the frame is wood--poor quality. Fortunately, we had the buyer protection and the repairman was able to rig so it is moderately functional--he thought it poorly made/designed as well. Look for one that has a one piece bottom with only four legs--you will find some very sturdy chrome steel plated bases that are indestructible--have had one for ten years. Overstock has several others with the one piece bottom with the same aesthetic.
I wrote an initial review of this split convertible in regard to its good looks and easy set up. Now I need to report how it can stand up to a lot of punishment. Yesterday I accidentally smeared my pedicure across the cushions right in the front. I was furious that I ruined my beautiful new furniture not even a month after buying it. I looked up removing polish from leather, and they said to test the acetone nail polish remover in hidden spot to make sure it didn't ruin the leather. It seemed ok so I carefully dabbed up the gold smear until it was completely gone, and the leather showed not ONE mark left and unchanged by the acetone! incredible! Later that day, my dog barfed on the sofa. I wiped that right up too and not a hint remained. This thing is so well made I'm so happy. great piece.
My son wanted a new couch for his room that could also serve as a bed. This is comfortable, stylish and he just loves it. Was also a breeze to put together.
. Easy to assemble & true to the picture. Very Happy with this futon...Rich looking
Disappointed as product was not as advertised. Comfort and height are not accurate. Wanted for guests at Thanksgiving, so I do not have time to return (nor do I want to hassle around with it). I'd give it a 6 out of 10.
- How did the color on site compare with the actual product? The seemed accurate.
- Please tell us about the quality of the product. The name and the description mentioned comfort due to double cushion but it will not be comfortable for sleeping. It's more like a slight pad over cardboard.
- How accurate was the on site description of the product? Misleading, because it is not comfortable. Also, the height measurement was TWO INCHES shorter. This make a huge difference in appearance, sitting on and does not match up with a footstool I bought to go with.
This is in our guest room and has been used many times. Great for occasional sleeping and really comfortable sitting
Although the couch is nice to sit on and easy to clean, this can't really be called a futon. I'm 5'5 and my feet hang off of it!
Did the job.... seating on a firm side.
We are quite pleased with this futon. The plastic caps for the feet fall off every time it is picked up and moved.
This item is very well-made and it was easy to put the legs on. It could be a bit more comfy - it's quite firm - but I put several comforters down and then it's fine. Very nice looking and easy to change from upright to bed.
While this futon is very attractive, it is not as functional as I had hoped. My 6'3" and 6'5" nephews could not fit on the futon.
Great sofa. Easy to assemble and looks beautiful. Excellent buy for the price.
Impressed. Read other reviews on this before purchasing and so gave it a try. Love it. Perfect for what I need in our downstairs area. Easy to put together and seems well made and good quality for the price. Overstock has always been great and I have had good luck with all my orders. A little firm but not uncomfortable. My daughter is coming to visit and we will see what she thinks. I purchased a new comforter and likely get a little pad to put on it for comfort sake and now have a spare bed for company! Good choice.
VERY SATISFIED WITH THIS PURCHASE! Is worth the money and looks great.
Yes and No. It seems to be a bit on the hard side to me. I really didn't think it would be this firm. I like the style and color but its not the most comfortable futon sofa. It merely serves a purpose for my sitting room.
It's not meant for long use and also the clamp already broke. Now I am only able to lay it flat. I am no longer able to covert it back to sofa.
This is a good product if you have like a have a small room for some guest to crash on for the night very light weight material, one of the spring seems to be broken because it keeps making funny snapping noise. It would be a nightmare to send it back after destroying the box to get it out and putting it together. For the price I paid might as well keep, but like they say you get what you paid for.
Very pleased with color of couch. It is appropriate for a small space area and comfortable to look at television or hanging out. Have not used as a bed as yet. Love how the back can be adjusted.


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Young baseball fan shows some really smooth moves, impressing the ladies and keeping the ball
- From: FOX SPORTS
- May 19, 2014
FELLAS, take note.
A suave young man in the US has shown chivalry is certainly not dead with the ultimate act of charm and generosity.
We can all learn from him.
The young man in question fielded a foul ball at an MLB game between the Texas Rangers and the Toronto Blue Jays.
Watch Mr Smooth make his move in the video above
He then nonchalantly leans back and gives the ball to a pretty young girl sitting in the row behind him.
Or that's what he appears to do — if you look closely you'll see the young lothario actually keeps hold of the game ball and hands off one he prepared earlier.
Classy, kid. Real classy.

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Bedfordshire rower hopeful of place in Olympic team
Athletes from across the country are currently battling it out to secure a place in the Olympic games in Rio this summer.
ITV News has been given rare access to the rowing squad training ahead of the European Championships next month including Bedfordshire hopeful Charlotte Taylor.
Many of those competing in that event will travel to South America to represent Team GB and contribute to the Olympic medal tally.
ITV News reporter Matt Price has been following the athletes on their Road to Rio
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Team GB call-ups for Norfolk and Cambridgeshire sailors
Two sailors from Norfolk and Cambridgeshire have been added to the Olympic team for Rio 2016.Read the full story ›
Region's Olympic legacy
It's a year to the day since the opening ceremony of the London Olympics.
The games were the highlight of a glorious summer of sport, with Team GB finishing third in the medal table.
There were plenty of successes here in the East. But a year on, some sports are counting the cost after missing out on funding for the next games in Rio.
Donovan Blake has been focussing on volleyball, which has its national centre in Kettering.
Grabarz preparing for high-speed date
Cambridgeshire athlete Robbie Grabarz preparing for his race experience day at Rockingham Raceway near Corby.
The Olympic bronze medal winning high-jumper was taking time out from his preparations for the outdoor athletics season.
National Brazilian Gymnastics team in Ipswich
The National Brazilian Gymnastics team are in Ipswich as part of a 2012 legacy project being run by the town's gymnastics centre.
Teams from Britain and Brazil have agreed to hold two competitions a year, one in Ipswich and one in Brazil, to help both countries prepare their junior athletes for the next Olympics in Rio in 2016
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What your council spent on the Olympic torch relay
There were big differences in the cash each council spent on the Olympic Torch relay from £1,200 in Northampton to £134,000 in Peterborough.Read the full story ›
Former Ipswich chief heads for Madrid
Former Ipswich Town Chief Executive Simon Clegg has been hired as a consultant by the Madrid 2020 Olympic bid.
Clegg, who left his post at Ipswich earlier this month, is a former chief executive of the British Olympic Association and played a major part in winning the bid for London 2012.
"I am delighted and honored to have been invited to join the Madrid 2020 team," said Clegg.
"I'm looking forward to helping Madrid to send a positive message in the remaining months of the campaign," said Clegg.
Gymnast Louis Smith looking for new challenges
Double Olympic medallist Louis Smith is looking for new challenges after picking up his MBE from the Queen at Buckingham Palace.
The gymnast from Peterborough says he'll have a make a decision soon on competing in Rio but said "gymnastics is a tough sport and his body isn't getting any younger."
Louis says he's now looking at sporting legacy by setting up charities and summer camps. He's also planning to tour schools to tell children about his achievements.
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2001 Chevy Prizm 4 cyl Front Wheel Drive Manual 180000 miles
I have been told that the gas mixing in the oil is the fuel pressure regulator. Could it be anything else? Will a diagnostic let me know if this is what is wrong or something else? How can I locate the fuel pressure regulator to replace it?
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History Is on Display at Union Pacific's Home Plate
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UP No. 951, one of our classic E9 Streamliner locomotives, is on display at Union Pacific's Home Plate across the street from where the NCAA College World Series is being held June 13-24.
A long-standing Omaha tradition, the NCAA College World Series brings together the eight best college baseball teams each June to battle it out in TD Ameritrade Ballpark.
Now in its fourth year, Union Pacific's Home Plate has become a tradition of its own. Located just north of the stadium, baseball fans and rail fans can see history on display in the form of Union Pacific's fleet of Heritage cars, some dating back to 1912, each painstakingly restored.
This year's heritage train is led by No. 951, one of the last of UP's high-speed diesel-electrics built for service on the famous streamliner and domeliner passenger trains. The 2000-horsepower locomotive was built for UP and delivered in June 1955. It's a classic, just like the College World Series.
Union Pacific's Home Plate, located at 12th and Cuming St., is open to the public June 13-24 from noon to 7 p.m. Find out more on the Home Plate page. See you at the game!
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Energy Management Companies in Alberta
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Exova North America
based in Edmonton, ALBERTA (CANADA)
Exova is a strategic business unit with over 100 laboratories worldwide. Staffed with highly experienced engineers and scientists, Exova provides clients with access to a fully accredited group of laboratories strategically located to serve clients worldwide. Bodycote Testing Group Americas consists of four divisions: Materials Testing, Environmental, Health Sciences and ...
Office in Calgary, ALBERTA (CANADA)
Hemmera is a progressive consulting firm that provides professional services in environmental sciences, engineering, planning and management. Since its establishment in 1994, Hemmera has grown into a highly respected multi-disciplinary company with over 140 staff. The firm has primary office locations in Vancouver, Burnaby, Victoria, and Calgary, and a strong project ...
New Energy Corporation Inc. (NECI)
based in Calgary, ALBERTA (CANADA)
New Energy Corporation Inc. is a manufacturer of in-stream hydrokinetic power generation systems. The company`s proprietary EnCurrent Power Generation (EPG) systems convert kinetic energy in water currents into electricity the same way in which wind turbines convert the kinetic energy in wind into electricity. The EPG system is an economical hydroelectric generating ...
Eguana Technologies
based in Calgary, ALBERTA (CANADA)
Eguana Technologies designs and manufactures intelligent power electronics for distributed smart grid and micro-grid applications. Our proprietary inverters seamlessly integrate with storage devices and renewable energy generators.This creates systems with uncompromised efficiency and reliability at unbeatable lifecycle costs.Our product philosophy is to serve the ...
based in Calgary, ALBERTA (CANADA)
The Canadian Environmental Technology Advancement Corporation- WEST (CETAC-WEST) is a private sector, not-for-profit corporation committed to helping small to medium-sized enterprises (SMEs) engaged in the development and commercialization of new environmental technologies. Established in 1994 by Environment Canada, we dedicate our services to SMEs in the four western ...
SafeGuard Profiler - a brand by ACM Facility Safety
based in ALBERTA (CANADA)
ACM helps the world`s largest operating and engineering companies as they strive to make the world a safer place. However, our story started more than 40 years ago. SafeGuard Profiler, formerly known as SilCore software, is a trusted Safety Integrity Level Software by ACM Facility Safety. It is a field-proven Safety Integrity Level (SIL) Lifecycle tool that gives high ...
Arizona Instrument LLC
Distributor in ALBERTA (CANADA)
Arizona Instrument LLC was founded in 1981 by a group of engineers. Arizona Instrument, then known as Quintel Corporation, was dedicated to providing precision moisture analysis instruments that were accurate, reliable, and easy to use. Over the years the company expanded its Computrac moisture analysis line and became an accepted leader in moisture analysis, setting a ...
Elgin Separation Solutions - Elgin Equipment Group (EEG)
Office in Leduc, ALBERTA (CANADA)
For over 25 years Elgin Separation Solutions has been a leading manufacturer of superior waste management and solids control equipment to customers around the world. Specific products include decanter centrifuges, shale shakers, vertical cuttings dryers, mud cleaners, vacuum degassers, packaged mud recycling systems. Today Elgin continues to raise the bar by manufacturing ...
SKC Inc.
Distributor in ALBERTA (CANADA)
SKC is known as a leading manufacturer of air sample pumps, sorbent tubes, gas sample bags, passive samplers, size-selective samplers, and filters for the industrial hygiene, occupational health, safety, and environmental markets. From its humble start as a one-room company with a handful of employees, SKC has grown to over 100 employees and an eight-building research, ...
Testwell Instruments
Distributor in ALBERTA (CANADA)
TESTWELL is a leading designer and manufacturer of groundwater monitoring instrumentation. We have built our business and our reputation by developing rugged, dependable, accurate instruments that deliver precision and quality at a fair price, and supported by the best service in the industry. We are located in Georgetown, Ontario, Canada. Since 1990, Testwell ...
LAMBION Energy Solutions GmbH
Office in Edmonton, ALBERTA (CANADA)
LAMBION Energy Solutions GmbH has been designing and building bioenergy plants for more than 90 years. With over 3,400 biomass combustion plants to our credit around the world, we have an unmatched body of experience in generating power from solid fuels and waste materials with the best economical and ecological results.Lambion, as part of the NRGgroup, is your partner ...
Extrel CMS LLC
Distributor in Edmonton, ALBERTA (CANADA)
Extrel instruments have been recognized for their exceptional performance, reliability and flexibility, and are complemented by the most comprehensive application, technical and on-site support in the industry. Providing solutions for the needs of today's leading researchers from individual components to full all-in-one systems, Extrel works with their customers to ...
Solarwyse Ltd.
based in Beaverlodge, ALBERTA (CANADA)
Design, supply and installation of alternative energy solutions. From oils and gas, home and recreational, to environment . Design services, or suppliesfor the homeowners. Solarwyse established in 2005 in a complete off grid location in northern Alberta.
International Student Energy Summit
based in ALBERTA (CANADA)
We are a global non-profit that is creating a movement of young leaders committed to transitioning the world to a sustainable energy future. Student Energy works to open the eyes of the world's students to all perspectives on energy. We Educate students about the current issues in global energy management. Inspire students with the knowledge and courage to challenge the ...
Enerflex Systems Ltd
based in Calgary, ALBERTA (CANADA)
Enerflex Ltd. (TSX: EFX), is an international company delivering products, services and integrated solutions to all corners of the world, focusing on processing and moving your energy between the wellhead and the market.
Norwest Corporation
based in Calgary, ALBERTA (CANADA)
Norwest is an internationally recognized leader in providing consulting expertise to the energy, mining, and natural resources industries. For three decades we have offered a wide range of services to energy and mining companies, electric power producers, financial institutions, governments, legal firms, and regulatory agencies. Norwest's geologists, engineers, ...
EnviroRentals - a division of Gasonic Instruments Inc.
based in Calgary, ALBERTA (CANADA)
EnviroRentals is committed to provide the largest selection of equipment to test your Inmosphere - Indoor Environment Quality and Industrial Hygiene Monitoring instruments. We have changed our focus to the indoor environmental monitoring to match our parent company - Gasonic Instruments Inc who is now the largest Authorized Honeywell distributor of permanent gas monitors ...
Hoskin Scientific Limited
Office in Edmonton, ALBERTA (CANADA)
For over seventy years, Hoskin Scientific has been a supplier of testing and monitoring instrumentation to the Canadian market. With offices in Vancouver, Burlington, and Montreal our customers are able to receive local sales and technical support in our three major departments. Our Environmental Department provides solutions for monitoring and sampling biological and ...
Ametek Process Instruments - THERMOX
Distributor in Calgary, ALBERTA (CANADA)
AMETEK Process Instruments is a worldwide manufacturer of process analyzers and instrumentation. A Business Unit of the Process & Analytical Instruments division of AMETEK, Inc., we are part of a global corporation with over $3.5 billion (USD) in annual revenue. Our engineering and manufacturing activities take place in several North American facilities. We have direct ...
Inovic Energy Services
based in Rocky View, ALBERTA (CANADA)
Inovic Energy Services is a leader in providing dependable Mud Pulse Measurement While Drilling (MWD) capabilities to directional drilling companies - and locally manufactured MWD spare parts for several platforms including Geo-link, Sondex, Bluestar, APS and XXT. We specialize in helping independent directional drilling companies excel in a competitive and demanding ...
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This is the Lomo DIY plastic slr. There is a clip of the camera being put together. Interestingly the builder spends nearly as much time putting the stickers on as putting it together. Ha!
I often disparage Lomography with its principle of taking deliberately bad pics (but thanks them for popularising film use - thank you Lomo) but this is a mere �29. That's not bad and cheap compared with some of their other stuff.
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Ivanka Trump's Licensing Company Refutes Derek Lam's Accusations Over Sandal
And the gauntlet has been thrown down.By Charlotte Cowles
And the gauntlet has been thrown down.By Charlotte Cowles
Over look-alike wedges.By Charlotte Cowles
The multi-brand mogul moves her store from Madison Avenue to Soho.By Lauren Murrow
Plus, Abbey Lee Kershaw styled in one of the moment's most necessary accessories: a black veil.
The Donald is "absolutely" serious, she tells us.By Bennett Marcus
She will go on to rule the Chapin School with an iron fist, we suspect.By Mike Vilensky
It's from 'Harper's Bazaar,' bazaarly.By Chris Rovzar
This girl-child will want for nothing in the world.By Chris Rovzar
He was arrested again.By Mike Vilensky
The Trump heiress has announced her pregnancy.By Jessica Pressler
Of course they do.By Jessica Pressler
Your credit cards should be very, very afraid.By Charlotte Cowles
They all showed up at the same event last night wearing beige/nude dresses.By Caitlin Petreycik
Ivanka Trump won't participate.By Amy Odell
Fifteen owners feel they were duped into buying.By Chris Rovzar
Everyone loves an entrepreneur.By Mike Vilensky
Also, Jessica Simpson has been wearing questionable maxi dresses lately!
That's if he tried to get in at all.
Also, Anna Wintour wore an Erdem dress.
"I didn't picture being here, celebrity stalking, at 28, you know? That's not what you dream of as a kid."By Jessica Pressler


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This article is part 2 of my sleep tech round up for 2016. This new burst of alarm clocks on the scene is important-- because let's be honest, our use of electronics (tablets, smartphones, TVs etc) dominates our bedrooms and pollutes our … [Read more...]
Consciousness Beyond the Body — A New Collection Available for Free
Alexander de Foe's new collection Consciousness Beyond the Body focuses on out-of-body experiences. The ebook officially launches later this week on all the major retailers, but you can download the no-frills PDF here for free, no strings … [Read more...]
Calling All Dream Hackers: New Dream Tech Apps and Devices for 2015
Time for an update on all the amazing dream tech that has come out recently. Hope you enjoy this 2015 round-up of dream-hacking apps and devices. Each of these are currently transforming what's possible in the dream realms. I am especially excited … [Read more...]
Men's Dreamwork for Health and Vitality: New Podcast Interview
I'm excited that my interview with Jordan Harbinger of the Art of Charm just dropped. This is a fun conversation geared especially towards men about how working with your dreams can be beneficial for harnessing creativity, vitality, and emotional … [Read more...]
Dreams and Altered States of Consciousness: New Online Course
Dreams, meditation, psi, hypnosis, altered states... it's all up for discussion! I'm co-teaching a new course at the Rhine Education Center with my colleague Loyd Auerbach, author of (most recently) Psi Wars: East and West. The course is Dreams … [Read more...]
Exploring Nootropics: Mind Supplements for Lucid Dreaming
This is a guest post by D.L. of TheLucidDreamSite.com. Ryan offered me the opportunity to share my perspectives on nootropic supplementation and its role in a lucid dream induction program. To begin with, I have a vested interest in this topic … [Read more...]


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Skip to comments.Slanders Unworthy of a Gentleman: A Base Attack on Wayne Grudem and Mitt Romney
Posted on 11/09/2007 11:13:13 AM PST by Reaganesque
Bottom Line: Some attacks on politicians are so craven that they redound to destroy the attacker. Gregg Jackson slanders Wayne Grudem and Mitt Romney, but the only reputation harmed is Gregg Jackson's.
Why I think this:
Republicans can get surly with candidates other than their favorite at this stage of the primary season.
Like a kid with a crush who cannot stand to hear bad news about his best girl, it is easy to over react to some of it. It does get wearisome and makes one long for more obedience to Reagan's Eleventh Commandment: speak no ill of a fellow Republican.
This is wise since the candidate I don't favor today may be the standard bearer of my party tomorrow. Meanwhile, decent men running for office have to endure smaller men sniping at them from the blog-lines.
To such attacks the mass of us must shrug and look forward to a united party after the nominee is picked. For now we must do the best we can to keep things in proportion. Hard attacks on a candidate's record are fair. Humor and poking a bit of fun is more than welcome as most leaders can use a good poke or two in the ego-sphere.
This must be kept within bounds, however, remembering that politicians are also human beings worthy of respect . . . however little some of them seem to deserve it!
Most of the candidates running for President (in both parties) are capable and decent people. All but one of the Republicans running is committed to a culture of life and family values.
Sometimes we forget this fact.
Who isn't tired of petulant attacks on a fine man like Mike Huckabee? I like Mike, he was an effective small state governor, and could vote for him quite happily in the general election. I will vote for Romney in the primaries, but Huckabee would make a fine party leader.
Huckabee is wisely grinning and moving forward in the storm. . . recognizing that if they aren't attacking you then you are at the Tom Tancredo level of importance.
Good for him. It makes him all the more admirable.
Having said that, an insane attack on any candidate from an apparently sane man demands a response . . . especially if the man speaks in the name of one's own religious group.
Gregg Jackson is a talk show host and author from Massachusetts who sees doom. There is an action we could all take so serious that it "could spell the end of America."
The. End. Of. America.
There lurks a greater danger than the madman in Iran.
There is a menace that hides in the Republican Party greater than any found in Pakistan.
Gregg Jackson has seen the Fall of the West, the triumph of the Orc Lord, and the destruction of Sunnydale. So bad is the threat according to Jackson that soon magical Turkish Delight will be pressed on all the blessed children of this nation by a White Witch in the form of Mitt Romney, Mormon.
According to Gregg Jackson electing Romney president might end the Republic.
I am not kidding.
We survived James Buchanan and the Civil War, but Gregg Jackson thinks Romney will finish us off.
The nation defeated Fascism, the Great Depression, and the Bolsheviks, but electing a business man with the religion of Donny and Marie will mark the end of us.
We survived Richard Nixon, the Cold War, and Jimmy Carter, but Gregg Jackson has seen the future and if President Romney is in it, the Constitution of 1789 will not be.
Worst still, according to the Prophet Gregg from Boston, a Romney win might mark the end of Evangelicalism in America.
Now I am not going to vote for Mrs. Clinton, figuring that marrying the boss may not be the best qualification for running his firm, but it will not finish us off if she wins. I am not going to vote for Ron Paul, but figure if Herbert Hoover did not hose us, the nation would survive the good doctor.
But let Gregg Jackson froth for himself . . . in a piece that puts the hyper in hyperbole.
Is This the End of Evangelicalism in America?
By Gregg Jackson
Friday, November 2, 2007
Here is a prediction on my part: if you think that electing a president whose theology you do not like can kill the Church, you may have some degree of confusion about the proper relationship between Church and state.
A disturbing sign of the state of American evangelicalism has appeared in the seventh year of the 21 st century in a Townhall.com article dated October 18,2007 entitled, "Why Evangelicals Should Support Mitt Romney" by Wayne Grudem. One of America's most popular evangelical theologians, Grudem is trying to persuade evangelicals to vote a Mormon for president. Wayne Grudem's "Systematic Theology" is the gold standard of evangelical doctrine and a sacred fixture in evangelical seminaries, pastor libraries and Bible studies.
Unless one is named Lincoln, first name Abraham, one should generally avoid phrases such as the "seventh year of the 21 st century."
It sounds a bit like a Tolkien lampoon.
Combined with the suggestion that Evangelicals, as fractious a theological bunch as ever attended AWANA, have a "sacred fixture" other than the Bible, it carries more than a hint that we are about to read an article with the substance and intellectual depth of a Michael Bey movie trailer.
What will come next?
"In a world where Mormon's rule the White House, where the Mormon Tabernacle Choir is heard on every radio . . . Gregg Jackson warns of apocalypse now: A Mormon in the White House."
But back to Jackson:
In it, he defines Mormonism as "clearly a false church." He shows why Mormonism has never been included in the Christian Church: It contradicts major Christian doctrine regarding the person of God, Christ and His work and salvation plan. A cornerstone of the Mormon Church, Grudem writes, is the classic heresy of Saint Paul's day angel worship. In his book, Grudem insists that an orthodox Christian must practice the theology he reads. So why would he step forward to become part of the Mitt Romney propaganda blitz trying to mislead evangelicals into doing what would shock most evangelicals in American history: elect a Mormon for president?
Let's try a charitable answer to Gregg Jackson's question. Grudem might recognize that Mitt Romney might make a rotten pastor, but a great president. Perhaps, just perhaps, Grudem recognizes that being wrong about somethings is not the same as being wrong about everything.
Grudem might be able to practice his theology while working with those who do not . . . as sensible Christians have always done.
Grudem's book also views Catholic theology as seriously defective, but Gregg Jackson had no jeremiads ready for anyone who was supporting Sam Brownback.
Should Jackson wish to help Grudem perhaps he can provide a chart of fit and unfit religious groups. This chart could outline jobs that the believer can hold without imperiling in the Republic. For example, Mormons have served in the Cabinet and the Senate without complaint by Jackson. Some have done so at the request of Protestant presidents . . . so perhaps Gregg Jackson can create the "back of the political bus" servant who can vote Republican, but not lead the party.
As to Gregg Jackson's handle on history:
He should answer these questions.
Did Evangelicals in Michigan help make Mitt Romney's dad their governor? Did they oppose his run for president, or that of Senator Hatch, with the fervor and apocalyptic language that Gregg Jackson is using?
It goes from strange to bizarre, considering Romney opened his campaign posing as the uber-evangelical Ronald Reagan while suggesting Reagan's evangelical base are bigots. Romney's evangelists, conservative talk show hosts Sean Hannity and Hugh Hewitt, among others, were much more outspoken. They angrily and repeatedly characterized evangelicals' lack of support for Romney as ugly bigotry.
This is not true.
First, Romney has never hidden his religion. . . as if the mainstream media would let him in any case. It has been discussed ad nauseaum.
At least for Hewitt, the argument was that opposing Romney only on the grounds of his religion was bigotry.
It could be bigotry to oppose Romney on religious grounds, but it might not be.
On this blog and on the Washington Post on-line I have outlined when religion might be "disqualifying" without the decision being bigotry.
The problem for Jackson is that Mormonism passes any reasonable qualifying test for a rational Christian's vote.
Why would a major evangelical leader jump aboard a political campaign that views evangelicals as bigots? Here are 10 important things for evangelicals to consider about Grudem's letter.
Perhaps, because the Romney campaign does not view Evangelicals as bigots? It is not bigotry to think Mormonism false, but it is bigotry to not be able to judge other ideas held by a Mormon because of the falsity of his religion.
I think atheism false, but can still learn Latin from an atheist. I don't judge his language skills by his metaphysical folly.
1. Grudem's epistle shows how mesmerizing liberal propaganda has become to the American Right. He buys a lot of liberal myths, including Hannity's bigotry charge. Sounding like Hillary Clinton, Grudem writes: "Have we come to the point where evangelicals will only vote for people they consider Christians? I hope not…" The evangelical bigotry charge comes right out of the 50 year Democrat playbook "Evangelicals are bigots, racists and anti-Semites!" Why do we need the fairness doctrine when conservatives are making Democrat talking points? The evangelical bigotry indictment is a phony mountain-out-of-a-molehill argument. The immense sacrifice of white lives for black freedom and the fact that no nation has treated Jews and immigrants better than America is evidence that must be balanced against the phony liberal charge of bigotry. The Mormon Church could not have thrived as it has anywhere else in the world.
Jackson has misunderstood Grudem. He has also confused the argument. The fact that Democrats have falsely accused Evangelicals of bigotry does not mean that some Evangelicals are not bigots or that Evangelical leaders should not caution publicly against bigotry.
As the Southern Baptists bravely stated at a recent convention, white Evangelicals were too silent during the Civil Rights Movement and some were bigots. We gain nothing by pretending to a perfection we did not and do not have.
Real conservatism is not Utopian. It does not pretend to be made up of angels.
Jackson's reasoning, such as it is, is that if Democrats accuse us of anything we can never be guilty of it or should avoid public discussion of the vice. This, however, is the path of a new kind of right-wing political correctness.
Besides this Grudem did not accuse Evangelicals of being bigots, he was simply warning them against bigotry.
2. Grudem would be a heretic in the history of American evangelicalism. The vast majority of Christians for most of American history would have been outraged at an evangelical Christian wearing a sandwich board for a Mormon candidate. As they saw it, America was a Christian nation to be led by a Christian president, who would be led by the God of the Bible. Grudem is out of step with the founding fathers. Voicing the majority opinion of the day, the first Supreme Court justice, John Jay said, "Americans should prefer Christian presidents." Washington wanted to be sworn in on the Bible, which he then kissed and said, "so help me, God." Even the "deists" Grudem cites, Jefferson and Franklin, agreed with Justice Jay. They thought Jesus was the ideal president. Grudem's reasoning is right out of the historically apostate Southern Baptist logic today: we're electing a president not a pope.
Was this true of Michigan Republicans, many Evangelical, Reformed and Protestant, who voted for Mitt Romeny's father as governor of Michigan?
Does Jackson believe we are electing a pope? One hopes not . . . though since he believes the Southern Baptists (!) apostate perhaps the group of eligible candidates is very small indeed in Mr. Jackson's world.
Should Catholics apply? The Orthodox? If a deist is acceptable, then why isn't a Mormon?
This article is an ugly slippery slope to deserved irrelevance in the Republic for any Christians foolish enough to be confused by it.
3. Grudem is clueless to the fact that in the 230 year history of American elections, Americans have overwhelmingly chosen conservative Christian presidents. Apparently he's unaware that even in America's most liberal era, the last 40 years, voters elected conservative Christian presidents or people posing as one. It was Democrats, not Republicans who began the religious right phenomenon with Jimmy Carter who they portrayed as a "born again evangelical Bible teacher." The only way Democrats won the presidency over the last 40 years was with phony evangelicals. We now know Carter and Bill Clinton are as evangelical as Hillary.
Mr. Jackson: What was Madison's religion? Was Jefferson who cut up his Bible to remove miracles a better Christian than Mr. Romney? Was Lincoln who was elected on Evangelical votes, but was of broader opinion? What of Mr. Reagan? Does he past muster?
I stand in the broad Christian tradition when I say that most of us would rather be governed by a noble pagan than a Christian cad.
4. Grudem's letter is as shocking and clueless as his book is brilliant and well reasoned. The foundation of his argument for Romney is almost identical to the left wing Newsweek's March announcement of Romney's candidacy: (1) Romney's a brilliant Harvard grad (like Grudem), (2) a successful investment banker and manager, (3) a great governor, and (4) he was savior of the 2002 Olympic games. Grudem says he "disagrees" with Mormon teaching, except that much of their ethical and value teaching is similar to the Bible's. The same could be said for the Koran and the Communist Manifesto.
Apparently in Mr. Jackson's world being brilliant is a bad thing as is being successful in business and government.
To compare Mormon ethics to the Communist Manifesto is absurd. Put briefly, Mormons adopt a traditional ethic derived from Western Christian society. Communists rejected it.
5. His epistle contradicts a lot of his theology book. On the one hand, Grudem emphasizes how Christians need to employ theology in their lives and not just read it. Yet even though he deems Mormonism a false church and its angel worship is heretical to the American evangelical tradition that built America, Grudem calls for evangelicals to forget all that and Vote for Mitt. Grudem's epistle is based largely on worldly and liberal reasoning and the biblical reasons he does use are out of context. Let's look at that…
Does Mr. Jackson see any distinction (I do not say separation) between Church and state?
If not, he should go back and read Augustine.
6. Grudem commits the evangelical sin of "eisegesis" reading into the Bible what he wants to see. He cites Pharoah, Nebuchadnezzar and Cyrus as pagan leaders who did God's will. The problem is: God's children never "elected" these people. God did. When the Hebrews cried out for a king other than their God, the king turned out to be demon-possessed. The big Bible picture Grudem misses is the one the founders understood well, and went into their construction of a Christian America. God wants people to elect his son their king. They envisioned America as God's chosen nation with Christians doing God's will by electing godly presidents. The American majority opinion has been: this is a Christian nation and God's tool for good in the modern world.
This is historically false.
America was a nation made up of mostly Christian people. They created a nation in which great good could be done by people like Joe Lieberman or Mitt Romney who could serve as full citizens of that nation.
The great glory of the Christian majority in America is that they have been able to serve under those with whom they had some theological disagreements. Just as Christians can hire a secular plumber, write a dissertation for a Hindu professor, and have their life saved by a Mormon doctor so a Christian can have a Commander in Chief who shares their values, but not their faith.
If Daniel can choose to serve the king of Babylon, Nehemiah choose to act as the trusted cup bearer of a pagan, and Esther choose to serve as the queen to another, I think choosing Romney as my Commander in Chief is acceptable.
I have written more about all of this beginning here.
7. Grudem's endorsement of Romney is based on arguments that are gullible, naive and plainly wrong. Romney was not a good governor as Grudem insists.
At last we have a relevant argument, but no support for it from Jackson.
He pretends to be against abortion, yet he would never have been elected governor if he were anti-abortion. He has long been pro-choice. His turnaround on abortion smells like a cynical political move that could be abandoned at any time.
Mr. Jackson, I fear, is one of those people who never trust a convert. He would have worried about Paul . . . after all he killed Christians before his "so-called Damascus road experience." He must really dislike Reagan who signed a liberal abortion law, before changing his mind.
Could Romney using us cynically?
I suppose so, though friends I trust say he is sincere.
Since conservatives do not put much trust in princes, I care less about his "heart" (as a leader) and more about the political calculations. He cannot afford to switch on abortion again. To be pro-choice, then pro-life, then pro-choice would utterly finish him.
Besides, if Romney were such a calculating source of Evil as Jackson paints him, then why didn't Mr. Romney pretend a conversion to an Evangelical church and so suck in everyone?
Mr. Jackson posits too much calculation to Mr. Romney and not enough . . .
The bottom line on his term as governor is: If he leaves America in the same state he left the Cradle of LIberty, America will be in a nose dive by the end of his first term. He was secretly instrumental in the gay marriage campaign.
Ah, the secret evils of Romney some how magically known to Mr. Jackson. Mr. Romney fought "gay marriage," but is actually for it.
It is hard to argue with a man who claims secret knowledge and does not give reasons for his beliefs.
He tossed Massachusetts a government health care plan which includes abortion as he walked out the door. He helped elect a Hillary disciple as governor and happily presented him to Bay Staters in a public ceremony. The new governor supports gay marriage and gambling casinos.
Mr. Romney is now held responsible for the actions of a political opponent. For being a good sport and doing what all out going leaders do, passing on power as a good sport and citizen, he is castigated.
Should George H.W. Bush have refused to attend the inauguration of Mr. Clinton? Doesn't a good leader know when to be a civil loser in a republic?
There is more than a whiff of the demagogue in Mr. Jackson.
8. His reasoning that Mitt's private beliefs and behavior are his personal business and don't influence his political actions is a liberal idea now rejected by voters. It is like the discredited liberal defense of Bill Clinton. His private beliefs have no bearing on his decisions as president. Voters no longer accept this liberal reasoning and they now factor in personal candidate decisions in choosing a president. The idea that Romney's Mormon beliefs would hot have a profound effect on America is irrational and unbiblical.
Mr. Jackson has missed the point.
Private beliefs do impact public behavior, but not all private beliefs impact public behavior in the same way. Let's pick a far fetched, but illustrative example.
Suppose I worship the Moon god and believe that the Moon god will not allow the taking of innocent human life. As a result, I develop public policy positions to protect the weak and innocent. However misguided my private beliefs may be, they can have positive public policy implications.
Wrong ideas held in private can have good or bad public implications and this is what needs to be judged by a voter.
Each candidate's private beliefs will have to be examined to see if they are relevant to public action (many will not be).
The private religious beliefs of Mr. Romney lead him (naturally) to a culture of life and traditional marriage position . . .
9. Grudem's "common sense" arguments for Romney are illogical. Romney has a good shot at winning. He does? His approval rating is roughly equivalent to that of the Pelosi congress, despite the king's ransom he spent. Grudem says McCain and Thompson are "not reliably conservative" as if Romney is. Hello? He was governor of arguably the most liberal state in America. He enabled gay marriage and gave Massachusetts Hillarycare. He helped Massachusetts return to an all Democrat totalitarian state and enabled a Hillary disciple to become governor. Reliably conservative?! What in the Sam Hill is Grudem talking about?!
Mr. Jackson has not understood the "early state" strategy of Mr. Romney. Mr. Jackson evidently does not know elections take place in state by state primaries so that national "horse race" numbers are less important (now) than state-by-state polls.
Mr. Jackson attacks Mr. Romney's time as governor without giving any evidence for it beyond slogans.
If I say: "Mr. Jackson is ill-informed, uses demagogic tactics, damaging the cause he claims to represent." then it would be simple mud slinging (and uncharitable) if I could not justify each claim.
10. Grudem's epistle to evangelicals is an attempt to mislead American Christians and is a sad diagnostic of the state of conservative church leadership today. His eagerness to become part of a cynical political Crusade to mislead evangelical pastors and their flocks is a diagnostic of the Laodicean state of conservative Christian leadership. No matter how you slice the Romney baloney, whether it's his religious beliefs that evangelical voters don't accept, or his record as governor of America's Cradle of Liberty, Romney is not a strong conservative candidate and his presidency could spell the end of America.
I would dearly love to debate Mr. Jackson on this topic on some neutral turf, but he has a radio show and all I have is this blog!
What we can do is look at the work of both Wayne Grudem and Gregg Jackson and decide who best represents us.
Which do you want to be your voice?
Gregg Jackson is not the voice of the historic American Church, but of the Know Nothing losers of American politics looking for conspiracies and enemies where Christian charity would find opportunity and friends.
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A few seem to hate every Republican who is running.
Good find, Restornu!
Thank you for posting this.
The Romney Sleaze Machine knows this rule, but simply ignores it.
Ain't that the truth? It's somewhat understandable given Republican betrayals on immigration and other issues but, jeez!
And yet you're the one hurling invectives like "sleaze" here.
Pro-Willard posters are cited for lies about other candidates every day.
Then there are the pole-dancing posts involving Thompson's wife.
And the "trophy wife" comments; and the vulgar songs about Fred and Jeri Thompson and beanie weenie.
I could go on and on and on.
Read and learn.
Here is the link to the article that the author refers to.
Hit post too soon.
This is one of my favorites:
You've got that right. Some of my friends here on FR feel that I've turned against them simply because I support a candidate they don't like. Now they act like they're my enemy and like I'm their's. It's weird. This is just one election and there's so much more to life and conservative activism than the primary election for president.
Gregg reminds me of some of the more unhinged posters on FR who suffer from severe cases of MRDS (Mitt Romney Derangement Syndrome).
Mr. Romney is on the right side of many positions, he just hasn't been there very long.
I still couldn't vote for a man who believes he is a god, will someday rule his own planet, and his wife will continue to have multitudes of babies to repopulate the planet.
Just think for a moment about these nutty, false beliefs from the Mormon cult before you REALLY consider voting for Mr. Romney.
And here is another source for comparison: Copper, Bronze, and Brass [in the Book of Mormon]
As others have stated though, we're looking for a chief executive, not a chief pastor.
For accurate information on LDS doctrine and why Mormons believe they are Christian, here are links to the teachings of two LDS Church leaders from the LDS General Conference on October 6-7, 2007:
The Only True God and Jesus Christ Whom He Hath Sent, by LDS Apostle Jeffrey R. Holland: HTML Text, MP3 Audio, or WMV Video.Other formats and languages and other LDS General Conference talks are available here.
The Stone Cut Out of the Mountain, by LDS Church President Gordon B. Hinckley: HTML Text, MP3 Audio, or WMV Video.
There will be many who will share their opinions about LDS doctrine from a non-LDS (or anti-LDS) perspective. If you have questions after reviewing any of this, Mormon.org offers the ability to ask questions by email or anonymous online chat.
BTW, Romney is not at the top of my list, Hunter is. I'm still looking at Romney & Thompson. I have no interest in the rest.
After checking into their evidence in several respects, and finding them as willfully misleading as Mr. Jackson's, I have ceased to give anything they say much credence. Too much of what they claim has proved to be out of context snippets, half truths, misinterpretations and outright lies, repeated ad nauseum.
Unfortunately, that mistrust of them as honest sources also includes their defenses of their own candidate - something I have had to fight against in myself in order to give honest consideration to Thompson or Hunter or others. The candidates are ill served by these minions. I class them with the same disdain I used to reserve for Begala and Carville, whose methods these supposed conservatives have adopted wholesale.
Yes, the same apologetics can be found on the ex-mormon sites.
Seeing as it is very important (for obvious reasons) it is also very controversial.
It's also not about iron.
You are setting fire to a straw man.
Are you an ex Mormon?
If it is straw man, you brought it up, not me.
You must have thought it was inportant to your point.
Besides that, you said it was your favorite. Why so?
Nope, I've been studying it off and on since 1980, when I almost became a member. Mostly off lately. Becoming an "expert" on Mormonism is not my life's ambition.
I have several Mormon friends and was even in a rock cover band that was all Mormon except for me. One of the members and I talked quite a bit about the things we DO agree on.
Of course, the deity of Christ - which is the foundation upon which Christianity rests - is one we disagree on.
Got it? Good, now be happy with happy Mitt and his happy happy Music Man happy plans.
What I brought up was much more complicated than your straw man. I ask the lurker to simply read your sources, my sources, any other info on the subject of metallurgy and let them choose for themself.
It was my favorite because it was interesting.
This settles it.
As of today we can officially label Mitt as the frontrunner :-)
>>Choose WHAT for themselves? This site is not about choosing a religion.
Lets face it. You brought it up to bash Romneys religion and thus indirectly bash him.
If you want to bash Romney, use his politics to bash him. There is ample fodder there to work with if you want to disagree with him in that area.<<
Choose what to believe about the beliefs of one of the candidates. What a candidate believes about the most important question put before man matters more than anything else about him.
It matters.
I am not slamming him any more than I slam a liberal for what they think about the human condition. It defines what place they think the government has in the lives of its citizens. That is the foundation upon which all their beliefs and decisions stant.
It matters.
What a candidate believes about the most important question put before man matters more than anything else about him.
It matters. I am not slamming him any more than I slam a liberal for what they think about the human condition. It defines what place they think the government has in the lives of its citizens. That is the foundation upon which all their beliefs and decisions stant.
It matters.
FIP ping to HATE thread for the day, from the Mittbots. Fire at will ;)
Now we know where the sleaze machine around here gets some their material or vice versa.
Anyway, it was an excellent read....thanks!
1 Kings 14
7 Go, tell Jeroboam that this is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: 'I raised you up from among the people and made you a leader over my people Israel. 8 I tore the kingdom away from the house of David and gave it to you, but you have not been like my servant David, who kept my commands and followed me with all his heart, doing only what was right in my eyes. 9 You have done more evil than all who lived before you. You have made for yourself other gods, idols made of metal; you have provoked me to anger and thrust me behind your back.
10 " 'Because of this, I am going to bring disaster on the house of Jeroboam. I will cut off from Jeroboam every last male in Israelslave or free. I will burn up the house of Jeroboam as one burns dung, until it is all gone. 11 Dogs will eat those belonging to Jeroboam who die in the city, and the birds of the air will feed on those who die in the country. The LORD has spoken!'
12 "As for you, go back home. When you set foot in your city, the boy will die. 13 All Israel will mourn for him and bury him. He is the only one belonging to Jeroboam who will be buried, because he is the only one in the house of Jeroboam in whom the LORD, the God of Israel, has found anything good.
14 "The LORD will raise up for himself a king over Israel who will cut off the family of Jeroboam. This is the day! What? Yes, even now. [a] 15 And the LORD will strike Israel, so that it will be like a reed swaying in the water. He will uproot Israel from this good land that he gave to their forefathers and scatter them beyond the River, [b] because they provoked the LORD to anger by making Asherah poles. [c] 16 And he will give Israel up because of the sins Jeroboam has committed and has caused Israel to commit."
I've seen that movie!
You forgot MY favorite, "used-car salesman".
You both make very lucid, rational points. This thread is destined to become ugly and I probably won't be returning to read the comments. As for the disruptors, once in awhile I just post this picture and then go on my way. I'm an evangelical Christian, and they embarrass me.
>>And what is that important question? How steel was made and when it was first made?
And how would that negatively affect a possible Romney administration?<<
You are being intentionally obtuse.
You are being slandered by Romney fanatical Mormons, joined by clueless claimers to be 'evangelical Christians' who somehow believe serving The Lord Christ in this age of degeneracy and scoffing at Salvation is supposed to be a 'sit on the sidelines and don't rock satan's boat' exercise. Frankly, it is a most telling sifting of wheat and chaff that is happening right before our eyes. Imagine what the separation of wheat and tares will look like!
Romney support for abortion videos:
In his own words, a 35 year history of pro-choice!
No kidding. I think the Fred supporters need to be a little more dignified if they want people to vote for their candidate. People associate candidates with the people around them. If you show no class, people will think your candidate has no class either. Romney supporters need to be dignified and show class all the time against the meanest opposition. People will look at our conduct when evaluating Romney.
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Sacred Matter: Reflections on the Relationship of Karmic and Natural Causality in Jaina Philosophy
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The article examines a fundamental problem in classical Jaina philosophy, namely, the ontological status of dead matter in the hylozoistic and at the same time dualistic Jaina worldview. This question is of particular interest in view of the widespread contemporary Jaina practice of venerating bone relics and stūpas of prominent saints. The main argument proposed in this article is, that, from a classical doctrinal point of view, bone relics of renowned ascetics are valuable for Jainas, if at all, because of their unique physical attributes, rather than the presumed presence of the deceased in the remains as posited in much of the extant literature on relic worship across cultures. The specific focus of the article are Jaina and non-Jaina explanations of the qualities of special matter in terms of karmic and natural processes of transformation.
KeywordsAscetic body Power Sacred matter Relics Stūpas Jaina karman theory Theory of pariṇāma Theory of multiple causation Principle of the excluded third do-kiriyiyā-vāya terāsiyā-vāya cattara-bhaṃgā
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- Sacred Matter: Reflections on the Relationship of Karmic and Natural Causality in Jaina Philosophy
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Journal of Indian Philosophy
Volume 40, Issue 2 , pp 119-176
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Hey there, I personally own this product and a couple other similar ones to this one all from abu garcia and I recently happened to hook myself onto a 5'5" 75 pound alligator gar with my 6600 C4 and boy did it put up a nice fight! I thought the fish was about 50 pounds and since my line has an 80lb breaking strain, I did not give it much drag! after fighting it and landing in the boat, we saw that it was alot bigger than we thought! When we weighed it I found out that I had put my line through a lot of stress! Im just happy it made it! However, the next day I went onto the lake again and tried to fish it with it, when I clicked the button to cast, line would not come out, it basically didn't cast! Now I do not know if these reels are made for big alligator gars, or if it was my fault for not applying drag at all, but i was a little disappointed knowing that it broke down! Overall, the reel worked great and I really do like it its just that it broke down on me! I hope the same doesn't happen to all my other abu garcia reels!
Hi. I have caught many kings on this reel and love the retrieve ratio and how smooth it casts, but when dropping heavy weight...8-12 oz for trolling herring it slips. Not exactly sure how to describe it but here goes... when trolling herring you click to freespool out line until the weight hits the bottom, then you wait a 10-15 seconds to ensure your trolling speed and tidal current are not keeping your herring too far off the bottom. It is at this stage that you may have to freespool out some more line to keep your bait just off the bottom. In order to stop the freespool you gotta crank it till the drag sets in. Normally, it the drag will catch and stop the freespool at this point but with the heavier weight, it tends to keep freespooling for a bit resulting in an extra 3-10 feet of extra line out there. My c3 does not do this. They are the same age, 4 years old now. I like the reel but not sure if I would buy a different one. I am researching different reels now and thought I would give my 2 cents.
I love catfishing the tidal waters of the James River in Virginia. For two years now I have been using two AG 6600 C4 reels with 15 lb test line. I have landed several 20 to 30 lb. fish and I like the great drag system on this reel. When you are fighting a big head-shaker that is 2x heavier than your line test, it gives you confidence to know that your reel will do it's part without fail.
Two unrelated but important features of the 6600 C4's are ease of cleaning and bait clickers loud enough to wake you - between Midnight and 6:00 AM I get in a nod in now and then. The only thing that I have as a Con on these reels is that the bait clickers are hard to engage at times. When your hands are a bit slick it can be a pain. I have often sat there in the middle of the night thinking of how I could machine a better knob design or engagement mechanism. I plan to make some mods this winter and experiment when the big ones are biting.
I have the 5500 & the 6600c4 of this style. I have had the 6600c4 the longest, have absolutely tried my best to wear it out. I really like this reel for the higher gear ratio that it holds. The 6.3:1 ratio helps burnning the blade baits over weeds and structure that the muskie seem to like around here starting in the warmer months.
When the Double Cowgirls and other #10 blades got so popular it began taking its toll on lesser reels. I have never had a failure of these reels, but I could tell that the gears were beginning to get a little wear. This is after several years of hard casting and fishing, so I consider this normal wear and tear.
I also want to report on the customer service of Abu Garcia -- I mailed both reels back to their warranty service and asked for them to be rebuilt. Both were taken care of quickly and properly and I paid a fair price. Excellent customer service, considering I admitted up front that I had probably abused the reels over time throwing such heavy pulling baits. I like Abu Garcia's reputation so much that in January 2011 I bought the new Revo Toro Winch 60 reel -- another great product that is quickly living up to it's big brother's reputation.
I originally purchased 2 of the Ambassadeur 6600 C4 reels in 2010 for 2 of my new Musky rods. Then, I put 80lb PowerPro Braided line on them. Next, it was too the lake... I was astonished with these reels! These are my "Go Too" reels for casting for Musky, Pike and Bass. I liked them so much, I purchased 2 more, then my father tried them and he went out and purchased 2 for himself. Then, a close friend used one of mine, loved it, then went out and bought one for himself. For the price, there is no competition for the 6600 C4. Weather fishing for Musky, Pike or even Bass, this is the reel for you. The large, full length release is easy to find and use without looking for it, the gears shift every so smoothly and the drag tension is perfect for all types of lures and fish.
Guess I am a rookie when it comes to fishing this would be my first full "season". I have used both Penn's and Shimano's but then I tried my father-in-laws 5000c wow I loved the feel of it. So then went out and purchased a 6600C4 and strapped to a medium heavy action ugly stick. Love the combo, lets me reel in most of the fish we go for. Thinking of buying another reel Abu of course still debating between the Alphamar and the 7000i C3. Want the added capacity looking for a strong and durable reel for the bigger fish (striped bass, etc). Welcoming suggestions... Casts a good distance and mostly accurate ( probably human error when it isn't). I have to say I love my Abu Garcia C4 and will be hard pressed to switch I love the feel and easy maintenance. Good Fishing FM
I use the 4600 size loaded with 25lb power pro spectra and a 5ft topshot of 12lb floro on a 81/2' MH Penn rod for local island and coastal fishing. This reel has got the power and guts of a larger class with the castability of a low profile. So far the largest fish hooked and landed on this reel was a 12lb bonito on a 5/8oz krocodile. I've hooked and landed over 200 calico bass, numerous sandbass along with lots of shallow water rockfish and have yet to have the reel even give me a hint of a problem. It's been over 2yrs without service on the internal parts. I clean the spectra well after use, lube the reel after a good cleaning, dry it off and it's always been ready for the next trip. Great reel for the price. Sorry Shimano, I sold mine to get more Abu Garcias.
I'm a first time musky fisher and this was my first purchase. After spending many hours researching reels I decided the C4 6600 series was the one I was looking for.
The ease of use of this reel is great. It fit my hands real well and was easy to handle on long days. It has smooth casting and a quick retrieve which I like when fishing certain lures. Other than a few rookie mistakes ( backlashes ) I have had no problems at all. I think this may be the best reel out there for the price! The guys I fish with all have the expensive fancy reels but when problems arise they always go back to the good ol Abu that's on the other pole. I would highly recommend this reel to any one.
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I purchased one of these fine fishing reels about 6 months ago,Boy was i in for a surprize! i have had several garcia baitcasters,but none like this, top of the line performance! Catching 20lb channel cats was a breeze for the reel which handled them extremely well for the conditions i was fishing,the ease of casting is insurmountable,it holds an extensive amount of your favorite line,cleaning is very easy,and schematics very easy to understsnd,i hope everyone gets a chance to use this reel,its truly one of a kind the price is very affordable,you will get a life time of fishing with this awesome product! happy fishing!
I had recently bout the 6601C4 off of Abu Garcia's Website. I fish on the lake out of my boat for bass, catfish, and some pike and musky. The first time i got out there i went to throw it out and a couple of things popped out of it, and dropped in the lake. I have asked about to replace the parts and the certain parts that broke off cannot be replaced. I had high hopes for this reel cause i have heard great things about it. But as it turned out i am very upset and i wish Abu Garcia would refund me a reel because i still trust the Abu Garcia name. I also have a verdict and love it.
After 4yrs use thus far, this reel has exceeded my expectations. From the fluted spool for less tangles, to the easy and forgiving break adjustments, it has made fishing easier and its use is alot of fun still. The ratio makes retreives smooth, and allows for great action in baits used. It's durability is outstanding, as I have a habit of being hard on equipment. The casting is superb as well. No matter what the use I've need it for, it holds up. I'll be using this reel for years to come.
This is a solid musky reel. The C4 has plenty of speed for fast retrieves, but lacks in drag power. The drag does slip slightly, but I have not lost a fish due to this. While this reels handles most lures I throw, it dogs when throwing big double bladed bucktails. The best feature of the C4 is the casting performance. I can throw small bucktails with no problems and bigger topwaters a mile. Maintenance is a breeze. This is a simple design that will stand the test of time.
C4 6600 is such a versatile reel...i use it for casting for muskies and also for trolling....either application is perfect for this reel . I have it spooled with 65lb test braid, which makes casting simple and able to do all day long. My first musky with this reel was a 38in..and was no problem for the reel. Its an awesome reel i recommend all musky fisherman or women to have one of these in your arsenal. I have also asked for another for Christmas.
probley one of the best reels out their i have fished for everything with this reel, I evan took my older c4 to st. Augistine florida with me to catch king fish. for fresh water i mainly target big blues and flat heads with this real, and it holds up on the tennesse river with 50lb blues hooked up to it and it is just finaminal how fast u can reel somthing in. like i said ealier i have two of these reels cause ily them so much and you will too.
I recently purchased a 6600 to replace a 6000 that is 30 years old. I have owned 2 5000's and a 6000 for more years than I care to relate. My Dad purchased me my first 5K 40 years ago and I still use it today. He liked it so much, he bought himself one as well. We caught a lot of fish with these reels over the years. I love my Garcia's and will always remember my Dad when I pull them out. Thanks for the memories and keep making great products!
This reel is great! It doesnt cost a lot of money, and the money it does cost is worth every dime! This thing casts a mile, handles heavy braid well, reels with ease, little or no backlash, great design, and good looking! Doing a lot of musky fishing, the only downfall is that throwing huge crankbaits and double 10 bucktails, it does get a little heavy after 8 hours of casting. But no doubt about it, one of the best round reels I've purchased.
The first reel I bought when I returned to fishing 5 years ago. I have bought a left hand one, the best choice for a right handed fisher, recently. I have also recieved 2 from a friend who semi wore them out. I repaired them. They are easy to repair, just bend the post that re-engages the reel back to a right angle. We catch chinook, coho, and steelhead with them. They handle big fish well. Casting is OK, but you have to develop a smart thumb.
The 4600C4 continues the long tradition of Abu Garcia reels that I learned to fish with....Smoothness of gearing and bearings is beyond compare....Ruggedness is superior to most reels made today....Reel is comfortable to use for a long day on the water...With a boat full of 4600C and even a 5600C (first year offered model) the 4600C4 has some daunting competition but has so far, equalled every task...Thank You Abu Garcia for so many memories
I bought two of these at the same time. I had never used a baitcaster before. The first trip out one reel was perfect and the other one "broke inside". Sent it off to repair and had it back in 5 days. Said a gear was not welded that should have been! The factory service center also changed to a power handle as I requested at no charge. I have now cought dozens of reds with these reel and they are all I use. Works just as advertised.
Started with five 521 baitcasters back in the early 80's. 30 years later traded up to 4 Revo's, a Skeet Reese Model but still like C4 models so bought 2 of them Sep 2010. Yesterday, upon retrieving a crankbait that I casted into the next county, a C4 model failed to engage & the thumb button remained down. I haven't dismantled it to see what the problem is but this was a first for me. Normally all my AG reels have been bullet proof.