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Beyond Seduction: 3 Days To Confidence And Techniques With Women
October 22-24, 2010
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The 5 Ways To Get The Most Out Of Your Experience
1. Take Notes. Break your hand if you need to, ask me to repeat things or give you more time. The notes are what you pay for on your bootcamp. You should have At least 10-12 pages per day. 2. Don't argue, just do. Everything an instructor tells you to do has a reason behind it. Sometimes it may be counterintuitive or not make sense to you. Don't worry about that, instead just do what we tell you to do without arguing. 3. Be willing to Be Honest With Yourself And Your Instructors. There are parts of your personality that are not helpful or meeting and attracting women. You have to be willing to look at yourself and how you communicate objectively without getting your feelings hurt in order to improve. 4. Be process oriented, not results oriented. Don't worry about how any of the other students are doing or if the instructors think you're cool. Focus on the process of meeting girls, and the results will take care of themselves. 5. The Comfort Zone is the enemy. Your body will try to trick and make you feel like you are going to die if you do something outside of your comfort zone. But it is only by changing our comfort zone that we can improve our lives.
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Notes On Female Psychology
I. The Key to understanding the relationship between evolution and attraction can be stated thusly. Women are evolutionarily programmed to seek out the sperm(and consequently man) who will offer the best chance at helping her have healthy(and sexy) sons and daughters. Subconsciously this causes women to sort men into two categories, Lovers and Providers. Furthermore the difference between a lover and a provider often comes down to the man's ability to demonstrate dominance. Dominance is THE factor that causes attraction, as women are evolutionarily programmed to seek out dominant men. If you want to learn more about evolutionary biology I suggest The Red Queen by Matt Ridley, Sperm Wars by Robin Baker, and The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins. II. Another factor to understand is the power of the female sex drive. Society has been set up in a way to make it seem as if men are the only gender that enjoys sex. This could not be further from the truth. Additionally women do not experience their sexual peak until the age of 32 while men experience their sexual peak at the tender age of 18. That means women are continually becoming more sexual until the age of 32. To learn more about the female sex drive check out Nancy Friday's My Secret Garden, Erotic Surrender by Claudia Varrin and the Story Of O by Pauline Reage. III. Triune Brain Theory Mammalian- Wraps around Reptialian. Limbic system. Hippocampus and the amygdala. Power station of our desires and motivations. Controls bonding and complex emotions such as jealousy, envy and love. Reptilian- In charge of fight or flight instinct and automatic functions, also helps determine hierarchies and our need to dominate and one up others. Cerebral Cortex- Controls Logic IV. Logic Vs Emotion All people make emotional decisions and then come up with logical arguments to support them. What a woman says, indicates what she logically thinks she wants. What a woman does indicates what she REALLY wants V. Sexual Arousal Arousal is a combination of the Limbic and Reptilian brain. There are physical things happening as a woman becomes attracted. Arousal is an autonomic function.
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Need for sexual pleasure.Women want to be overtaken and seduced by a powerful men. Need to feel worthy and attractive.What you gets you the girl is one thing and one thing only.Biological when arousal is triggered. The Roles Emotions have with women and pickup Using emotions to relate. VI. Attraction exists only as a tool to increase a woman's amount of investment in the man. VII. ground yourself. IX. athletes.Fear builds arousal. Attraction in and of itself is useless without the proper amount of investment.Harder for women to orgasm. Think rock stars. THE WAY YOU MAKE HER FEEL! Fun is the ULTIMATE attraction switch.Women need to feel like they are the cause of your sexual pleasure.Women need to be validated for their looks no matter how attractive they are. logical. This is why investment and not attraction is the secret to seducing women. and establish an identity for the woman. Sexual Needs Need to Mate. Need to be seduced. Attraction is the feeling of wanting someone and the compulsion to act on that desire. Women are sexually aroused multiple times a day but are not given the right desires to act on this arousal. in order for a woman to act on it(Credit SwinngCat for the wording). Emotional(limbic) Jealousy or Compeitition. Attraction is a feeling."He's my type". politicians. The Emotions Of Sexual Arousal © Sinns of Attraction LLC .Women also want to be seductress Need to make you orgasm. Women will sleep with men they are not attracted to for bragging rights and validation. Reptilian. which means that it is transient and can end at any time. Each Brain system acts as a filter. Ask female friends if they would be ok if they had an orgasm everytime they had sex but their partner never did. Need to be a good lover or seducer. VIII.Arousal must have the appropriate perceptual filter on it. Girls just want to have FUN! Emotional Stimulation.
hooking up. Being Single.Fulfilled Sexually. The Female Sexual Cycle Committed Relationship. Societal Expectations and Pressures.Ready to get back into a committed relationship. Obstacles build attraction/arousal.The surrendering of all power triggers arousal Discontent. Helplessness. In a Relationship but looking.Not fulfilled on all three levels has a need to be filled. XII. On the Rebound.Comes from the same part of the brain as arousal and our fight or flight reflex comes from. not interested in cheating. The Dilemma of Being an attractive woman. not necessarily interested in a relationship.Fear.Broken up and depressed.taking away something a woman assumes she already has… X. XI. Fear of loss.Going on dates. the psychology behind social climbing. On a Boyfriend Hunt. Judgement and Sexuality The Disney Myth The "slut" conundrum Queen Bees and Wannabees the art of female social compeition Clubs and The Prom. Emotionally and Intellectually. may have a fling for a few weeks before returning to her last boyfriend or moving on. The Ticking time bomb theory Biological Clocks Familial and Social Pressure.A restless desire for something better. Creating a void within the woman. © Sinns of Attraction LLC . having new sex.
This could be anything from talking with your hands too much. Let's divide Body Language into a few categories. Your Walk. They should swing a little as you walk. You want to make sure that you lead with your hips and not your knees or shoulders. Mirroring is an age old technique for building rapport. If you have to lean in to hear. The meaning of communication is the response it receives. Spacial relevance. To mirror means that you hold and adjust your body language and positioning to match the woman you're talking to. Mirroring. or using push/pull. You want to make sure that you stand tall and straight as you walk. This refers to how close you get to a woman as your talking to her and how much you invade her space. Posture.The Fundamentals Of Approaching And Attracting Women Body Language is how you hold and use your body to subcommunicate with the people you are interactiong with. and moves the least has the most social power. This can be done by cutting in. © Sinns of Attraction LLC . 1. Body Positioning is where you stand and what angles you use to face women. You should almost swagger a little from side to side like an old west gunfighter. 2. Ideally you want to lean up against something like a bar or a chair and have the girl lean in to talk to you. You want to eliminate all communication which is not directly related to what you are trying to convey. 4. Make sure that you keep your shoulders low and loose. The person who is the most comfortable. Lastly make sure that you slow everything down by half and smile. Nervous movements and gestures. to shifting nervously from foot to foot. Make sure that you don't lean in from the front or peck. Keep your head high and tilt your nose back almost as if you are looking down on the world. 5. Hold your chest high as if an imaginary piece of string was pulling it up. Have students demonstrate the effect of leaning in. try leaning in from the side. 3.
Be sure to enunciate as well. 2. Also be aware of the space around you. you can have the best game in the world but if no one can hear you. 1. You always want to make sure that you are in the middle of the group ideally leaning up against something Mystery called this locking in. Think Tony Robbins. My buddy Brad P has a list of types of voice tone to develop that I've borrowed here: 1. and then slowing that down again by half. Authoritative Voice. clear and deep. Try not to approach too directly as it can be intimidating. You want to make sure to keep an off center angle as you approach. Let's look at what makes up vocal tonality. Start from a normal position and then back away and say "no you're trouble!" then when she comes after you touch her as a reward.This voice is loud. Have students locate diaphragm. Slow down. 5. Try to make the woman face you a little bit more than you are facing her. Invade people's personal space to get them to open up. Demonstrate and do drill. If a club is crowded you can get much closer to a girl without it seeming weird. 3. Make her be the one trying to fight for your attention.The 5 rules of Body Positioning. Try slowing down your normal speaking speed by half. And the last key is to make sure you talk one person behind the person you want to hear you. Be Loud (Vocal Projection)! This is the most important component of vocal tonality. 1. This is useful for teasing. The tempo at which you speak is extremely important.This voice is similar to the way you would speak to a small child or a pet. Do not kneel in front of them or lean over them. Vocal Tonality: Vocal Tonality is extremely important for a variety of reasons. © Sinns of Attraction LLC . Switch up the angles at which you are standing at in order to draw a woman in to you. The first key to speak from the diaphragm rather than the throat. Likewise if it isn't busy you don't want to get too close and spook a girl. it's useless. If You approach a seated group. 4. If a group is very tightly packed you are going to want to make sure that you invade their space slightly then step back in order to open the group up. Baby Talk Voice. 2. Locking in. Pay particular attention to the final consonants of words. 2. The second key is to speak on the exhale as the power for your voice comes from your breath. use a time constraint and sit down with them asap.
Do you think he meant it?" (They respond.This is the same voice you would have normally except two to three times as loud.This is a sexy.Your tonality will indicate the level of rapport you are trying to establish with the person you are talking to. love. then this morning he took it back. your voice tone will stay steady all the way through. The Bedroom Voice. When you are neutral to rapport. To get the best results with vocal tonality have a friend record you while he asks you normal everyday questions.) "OK. The key is that you DON'T sound like you are screaming.3. slow. and relationships. 4. Rapport and Tonality. do you guys think drunk "I love you's" count?" (They respond. The tape doesn't lie.) © Sinns of Attraction LLC . When you are trying to establish rapport your voice tone will shift up slightly as if asking a question. Different Types Of Openers: Opinion Openers: Drunk "I Love You's" This is a good opener for moving directly onto the topic of relationships and setting yourself up for later more detailed Comfort routines on your philosophies on dating. Stage Voice. check this out… my friend Nick got really drunk last night and told his girlfriend that he loved her. "Hey. This voice is used for triggering arousal even if you are talking about something a sexual. breathy voice similar to a phone sex operator. Ideally you want to keep your voice neutral or slightly breaking rapport. When you are breaking rapport your voice tone will edge down slightly.
" (They comment. You probably know couples like that." Engaged Friend This opener has a little drama in it and is short and quick for stimulating interest. so I told her that he probably meant it but just need more time to say it sober. How do I tell him not to?" (They comment. "My friend is about to marry a girl I can't stand. obviously I need to cut her loose but I © Sinns of Attraction LLC . When you're drunk you say things that you actually mean but are afraid to say. Nothing serious. Text Message Breakup Opener: "Is it wrong to break up with someone with a text message?" (They will often ask how long you've been together.) "It's only been like three months.) Like you and me… (To the woman you're attracted to. I can already tell… Move into a Transition or Relationship–related routine. It's like oil and water.) If she seems like a potential girlfriend: Follow–On 1: "So. They fight all the time. smiling) We'd never get along.) "It's not even that I don't like her."Here's my take. but I just received an email from her live–in boyfriend asking me 'Are you sleeping with my girlfriend?' I had no idea about this guy…" (Here you can go one of two ways based on your assessment of the woman. I get along with her just fine… It's just that he doesn't get along with her.
'Hi' yet.don't want to make a big deal out of it and get into it about her lying to me and such. you should at least talk to me." If she seems more adventurous: Follow–On 2: "It did seem to be going a little too perfectly." "Here's the deal. and I've come to the conclusion that you are the only girl here who's cute enough for me to talk to.. So great. Other: © Sinns of Attraction LLC . or something?" (They respond.) "Because we've been here for almost 15 minutes and you haven't even come over and said." "If you're going to look at me like that." "You guys seem cool… Are you friendly?" (If she's giving you eye contact." Brad P. I usually can't just sleep with a girl for 3 months without getting the 'Let's make this more serious' talk. you should talk to me." "Are you (guys) shy. now we're talking. Founder. Brad P. so a text message seems like the easiest solution. I've been looking around this place. Now I know why she was able to stay so casual without giving me an Direct Openers: You're hot.) "Don't look at me like that or I'll fall in love.
We used to call her the weird horse girl… You look JUST LIKE HER!" (She responds. Brad P." style of a highenergy approach that combines humor with attraction-building material. Now I'm not saying you're definitely her. She used to run around the playground for an hour straight at lunchtime. but just in case you are. check this out.This opener is very much in the "Brad P. She'd be galloping and making horse noises. See. I thought so. Now I'm older and more mature. you make her miss your hand completely and say: © Sinns of Attraction LLC . and I feel bad. Hug." "Hey do you like horses?" (She responds. If it was me I wouldn't admit it either. when I was in the 6th grade. Hug. you're awesome too." Then high five her. Walk up to the first woman and say: "You're awesome. high five. High Five Opener This one is good for loud bars and clubs as a way to come in at a high energy level and take over the group while adding value to its members.) "It's cool.) Hug.) "Hmm. And I used to make fun of the horse girl. OK. He calls these sorts of openers "shockers. I want to tell you I'm sorry for all the times I made fun of you. high five. Look at second woman and say: "You know what. there was this girl who loved horses. So do you forgive me?" (She will usually mock forgive you." Then when she goes to high five you. in school I was always one of the cool kids.
Brad P. It can be delivered dryly. or crappier than average?" At this point. until the first woman goes away. Quality Control Opener Use this opener for large groups or groups that seem to be particularly difficult to break into. bettter than average. it just makes you look cooler. If she stays too long.) "OK you go stand next to her." This routine can be used to meet additional women. This is role playing. most women will play along and give you a funny little review of the place. Using the phrase "crappier than average" communicates to the women that this is just a fun little game. Brad P. I'd like to know if your experience with us has been average. I'm from – (name of bar/restaurant/parking garage)– quality control. © Sinns of Attraction LLC . "Hi. have them help you approach another group. or women."Ohhh! You fell for the oldest one in the book. Talk to the new woman. and we'll see if she falls for it. If you talk to the first group of women for a while and you're not interested in them.) "How about that girl?" (Point out someone else. I'll high five you first. so they know you are joking.) (She answers. like this: "I still can't believe you fell for my high five joke! How many girls in here do you think would fall for that?" (She responds. but make sure there is a subtle amount of humor and selfawareness in your delivery." Now go run the routine on a second woman or group of women.
Use this as review after the bootcamp. we need one quick definition. It's like trying to drive a car without being able to unlock the door. indirect or some amalgamation of the two. A "successful" opening is one where you can approach a stranger or group of strangers and initiate the conversation in such a way that they are content to have you stay and talk further. looking at you expectantly. What would your opener be? If the © Sinns of Attraction LLC . but part of the fun is in helping people. They don't know what to say.This is an older article I wrote about some opening related issues guys have. Don't worry about how the transmission works until you can unlock the car door and get inside. Before we go any further. And a lot of people have the same sorts of issues. They don't know where to stand to not creep out the girl or the group 3. I've seen literally hundreds of guys learn and develop their game. Drawing on my experience with bootcamps. pretty much everyone is able to open successfully in most sets after just the first night. pacing. This is kind of puzzling. 2. They don't know what to do after the opener THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY This issue is the most easily solved. Everyone who is serious about the game needs at least one default opener. So that tells me that a couple hours of concentrated instruction and practice should be able to get you there. the woman of your dreams is in front of you. etc. It takes 3-30 seconds. It's a lot of fun. here are a couple of quick thoughts about some common problems and solutions I've seen: 1. Opening Related Sticking Points: Having taught seminars and workshops. Another big issue is Opening. Even newbies should be able to successfully 99% of the time. Imagine that. This applies if you are going direct. tonality. A default opener is absolutely crucial – it's something that you always have on the tip of your tongue and that you can use unless there is a specific reason why you'd want to use a different one. right now. social intuition. since even some guys who are good at building attraction or creating comfort have flaws in their opening. It's not even something you should be thinking about anymore. Anyway. There's some outdated lingo and jargon talk but the message is still correct. regarding body language.
and they've said it before you did. If you approach straight on (as opposed to at an angle…it is better to approach at an angle of course. Before we go onto #2. There is no "sure fire get laid" opener (and." opener. isn't instinctive. Why? Because it's also occurred to the last 5 guys who approached her. Some of my favorites include Style's jealous GF opener.. Openers range from simple to complex. and with your body language turned away. and still talking over your shoulder. try opening while walking by the girl or group . All your opener needs to do is get you started in a conversation with a girl or a group. right now. ready to throw down? Do you remember that "butterflies in the chest" feeling where you weren't sure if you wanted to punch the guy or get the hell out of there? Women get a similar feeling when approached by men whom they don't know.. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO AFTER THE OPENER © Sinns of Attraction LLC . then here's your first opportunity to improve your game.answer to that isn't obvious. Will's "You are so. but sometimes this is unavoidable). So. A situational opener is based around something specific going on at the time. over the shoulder. make sure you stay far enough back that you don't trigger this response. it is preferable to approach at an angle. If there is something that immediately stands out to you about the girl or situation. make sure it's not something obvious. They can be good (though these ones aren't). let's take a quick detour into situational openers. you can also keep it very simple. and Mystery's "I hate you" opener (use only on 9s and 10s). Try this one: "Did you guys see the fight outside?" Remember . However. and isn't purely reactive. Have you ever gotten into an argument where you and another person were up in each other's faces. Of course. it is crucial to be aware of personal space.the very fact that it initially looks like you're about to leave will help reduce her feelings of discomfort. When you are approaching a stranger or group of strangers it can be easy to get too close and activate their "fight or flight" reflex. email it to me ).all an opener does is initiate the chat. That looks weird. So pick one today and solve this first problem. THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE TO STAND TO NOT CREEP OUT THE GIRL OR THE GROUP When opening. if there is. However. Like "it's hot in here" or "what is that green drink he's making". if you're going to go situational. make sure you eventually turn and face her or them! Don't be one minute into the conversation. ignore it. but most often they suck. Also. This allows us to get much closer without activating the response.
Get in the damn thing and drive! In the beginning you are going to have to do most of the talking. creepy or socially unacceptable. It does not mean they are attracted to you. here is a short list: 1. Early in a conversation if you want to ask a question try to rephrase it as a statement. successfully opening is like successfully unlocking the car door. For example "Where are you from?" Becomes. Social Questions.Asking too many questions early on violates the rule of reciprocity. Openers are great for starting conversations. and JUMP TO A NEW THREAD. but terrible for building attraction. Don't stand there like a dummy unlocking the car door all day. While you are leading the conversation. Some of them think they've then won the grand prize. Like I said above. There are a variety of techniques to help establish social comfort. But after a few dozen successful openers. but then you have to get in the car and drive. you won't even think about it anyway. Social Comfort Social Comfort is the first stage of any interaction you are going to have with a stranger be it male or female. As soon as you have opened successfully. start talking about something that will get her interested in you. ( The biggest thing to remember is to keep talking after the opener.Some of the most interesting situations arise when a bootcamp student starts to "get it" during the first night and is able to open seamlessly and consistently. 3. You must have social comfort before you can begin the process of breaking rapport to build attraction. 2. These can be as simple as them investing energy in the conversation or asking you questions. Questions versus statements. but simply that they will continue to talk with you because you haven't done anything weird.These are questions which do not hurt you as they are examples of accepted situationally relevant conversation. Examples " what's on the agenda for later?" " what brought you guys out tonight?" " Who are you shopping for?" © Sinns of Attraction LLC .Making sure to have the correct conversational ratio throughout the conversation 75(us) 25(them) for the first few minutes then gradually as you get into comfort you want to let the girl do the majority of the talking. Social comfort refers to the ability to make someone comfortable in having a conversation with you. the same way you don't even think about unlocking your car door. " You seem like an east coast girl". you may start to see IOIs ( Indicators of Interest) from the girl/s. Conversational Ratio. It's necessary.
The best categories for observations are clothing. Celebrity gossip.4.Is the idea of taking something the other person was talking about and relating it to an experience you've had in your life through the form of a short story. f. g. e.Making sure to involve every member of the group in the conversation rather than throwing routines or lines at them. Observing. Making an observation like for example " You totally look like my friend Michelle who… c.Using observations. k. Interactivity and check ins. new workout crazes and fashion. Pacing. Grounding yourself.Ditto by being in the know on things girls care about namely TV shows. d.Every region has different things that it's known for think south and cowboys. How much you should talk about yourself and how.Understanding the rules of volunteering information as well as understanding the difference between bragging and sharing.You know what I'm gonna do with you guys? I'm gonna dress you up in a red PVC devil constume and you in a white angel costume.Grounding is the idea of telling someone a story about yourself that helps them to understand how you are going to act in the future. the night etc. Relating. energy. © Sinns of Attraction LLC . I'll let you guys fight it out over what's going to be more fun. then I'll walk with you guys down the street arm in arm and whenever I have a decision to make.Demonstrating an understanding of her experience in order to demonstrate authority in her world. By using references to the region you're in you create a small amount of rapport. Using a phrasal transition like " That's just like when" "That reminds me of". sex scandals. general mood. Current Events. new york and rude people in a hurry. Here you use things like check ins( you know what I mean?) bait ( you know what they say about girls with nose rings?) and auxillary questions( has anything like that happened to you?) j. i. h. smiles. Using a role-play.There are a number of ways to transition here's a few: a. "Check this out" b. Miami and drug dealers. Regional references. Transitioning between topics.
8. 5. 2. Using names. 7. 10. 6.l. 9. Talking about your interests List of 10 things I enjoy talking about 1. 3. m. 3.Making sure to use the other person's name is a great trick to help establish social comfort. © Sinns of Attraction LLC . 4. 4. 2. List of 10 things I could learn about that I know women like talking about: 1.
9.5. 8. 2. 7. 6. 7. 3. 4. 5. 8. © Sinns of Attraction LLC . List of 10 Things I want women to know about me: 1. 10. 9. 6.
Then we want to use our social comfort techniques to establish the bare minimum of amount of rapport needed to continue a conversation at which point we want to break rapport consciously in order to gain momentum moving into the attraction part of an interaction. Self commentary. For example " oh man I shouldn't have said that. 18. You have to believe your own bullshit so to speak. 15. Refusing to answer questions/playing hard to get.Is the act of giving a running commentary on how the interaction is going. or being "on the same wavelength" as the person with whom you are talking. Teasing. or even slightly breaking it. Genuine interest. can we rewing?" 19. © Sinns of Attraction LLC . 16. Try using the following phrases: You know what's awesome? You know what I love? I found the best… today! 17.Keeping a positive tone to the conversation will help establish social comfort.Speaking enthusiastically will help make WHATEVER you are talking about more interesting.Demonstrating a genuine interest in what the other person has to say is one of the fastest ways to establish social comfort. 5 Ways To Break Rapport: 1. Enthusiasm. Positivity.10. Use active listening skills and paraphrasing to demonstrate your interest.Speaking in a relaxed calm manner with a neutral to breaking rapport tonality will help establish social comfort. 2. It is commonality of perspective: being "in sync" with.The most common way to break rapport especially early on in the interaction. Relaxed tone. In the beginning we want to open neutral to rapport. Manipulating Levels Of Rapport: Rapport is one of the most important features or characteristics of unconscious human interaction.
That's really good because you're calling her mean and then you're saying that you like her. because now she's like you're telling her she's something good. Take-Aways and Jealousy Plotlines Let's zoom in on one of the biggest problems guys have with breaking rapport: Teasing: The first technique that we're going to be talking about is the Push-Pull. really cute dimple. I like to really start out with compliments because I find that if you start out with a compliment and the girl accepts it and you don't have to do the second part of push. I'm always trying to move forward. I talked about how this is what I'll use in the very beginning of an approach to really get the girl willing to listen to my attraction material. Here's another one where you start with a compliment. you're not just hitting her with no respect for her comfort. Going sexual 5. so it's a really good example for push-pull. I don't want to do anything extra that I don't have to do. I hate cute. whereas if the girl just accepts a compliment right away. give the compliment. I need a lot of stimulation. just like the name. again. push-pull. I just hope you're not boring. that's a really good one: You seem really down to earth. or down to earth group—I just hope you're not boring. I hate cute. but it's competent flirting. and again no girl is going to actually think you hate cute. really facial expression—I hate cute. you push the girl with a tease and then you pull her back.Backturns. so it's again. © Sinns of Attraction LLC . Get away from me. you have the cutest dimple. That's a really good one. then you're a lot further along than if you start out with a push and the girl accepts it. I'm not sure you could keep up. Again. I hate cute. I love you. You're also giving her approval for being mean.3. you're like the meanest girl in here. Doing body language take-aways. this one I could be like: Oh my God. Efficiency is very key here. So push-pulls are again. that's kind of a good frame for me to work with. So I'll give you guys a couple of my favorite push-pulls. just don't bore me. then you have to kind of battle back and forth in this teasing war. then I can move forward. I'll say something like: Oh my God. or you pull the girl in with a compliment and then you push her away. This is our classic in the community. but then you're saying you don't like that. really down to earth girl. So I might say something like: you seem like a really. pushing her away etc… 4. take it away. You have a really cute smile.
so that's also something to keep in mind. Just think kind of condescending cutesy nickname. Kitten.Another thing that you can do with techniques is Nicknames. because we as humans like when you tell someone they can't have something. Which block did you think the kid went for every single time. or why it would never work out. she's now going to think: Wait. or why she's not your type. I think. they're real short little things you can throw out really. anything that a 90-year-old waitress. and a spotlight has shone on it. sport. princess. If I say something like: Oh my God. A couple of ones I like: dork. anything like that will be funny and you can use for the rest of the night. so it assumes this relationship plus you're the one saying it wouldn't work. If you look into the psychological world. or do something even if they didn't want it. The idea that the two of us might date is now brought to life. you don't have to overthink those: sport. Then they left them with the blocks. Nicknames are great because they allow you thing to have call-back humor you can call her that all night so it's kind of alike a constant tease. that's basic human psychology. princess. and they told the kids that they could play with any block they wanted except for the blue block. or why you wouldn't date her. kitten. and that's even better. and so by making that assumption. pain in the ass. buttercup. like a real old school deli would call you. Now it's the idea that she might want to date me. buttercup. I don't want to lose. you're way too bossy. One was blue. © Sinns of Attraction LLC . So let's start off with what a disqualifier is. anything like that. those are all going to work. awesome techniques when you use them the right way. it's present in the conversation. If you look at every major love story going back to Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet. the blue block. like I said. and one was yellow. Because in giving a girl a reason why the two of you can't be together. one was red. as my buddy Captain Jack would say. brat. maybe I did want that. So disqualifiers really play on that because even if the girl wasn't thinking she liked you. Those are just really easy simple ones. Now you add to that the fact that barriers build attraction. wait. dork. I would never date you. The next I want to talk about is the idea of Disqualifiers. Even better if she does kind of like you then these disqualifiers work even better because now she's like. every romance novel. one was green. A disqualifier is a reason why you and the girl could not be together. so you've retained your power. you now want it because you can't have it. They did a study with children in the 70s where they gave them four different blocks. really rapidly. they were building blocks. smart-ass. or that she wanted you in that way. no I like this. when you give her a reason why the two of you can't be together. you now start to make it real in the interaction. you're going to assume that that's a possibility on the map. tiger. amazing. we as humans tend to want what we can't have. brat-face is one I've used for a while. There were four toys of the exact same kind. Sweetheart. there's a reason that the hero and the heroine cannot be together. You also can use it to differentiate yourself from other guys when you talk to her the next day on the phone. Now disqualifiers are really misunderstood in the community and they're taught mostly wrong in terms of application. Now disqualifiers are brilliant! They're great.
because now she can try to convince you that the disqualifier doesn't matter. we can't be friends. you are really smart. okay. I like to also disqualify for things that are good about them. So you don't want to disqualify for physical. And again. again. I'm going to be stupid. So here are a few of my favorite disqualifiers: This is the one I do a lot of: Oh my god you love being the center of attention. you'd want to know where. this won't work. It stands out and it gives her something to push against. So you don't want to say something like: You're really pretty. She's not going to be: Oh. like we talked about earlier in this CD. You should know better anyway. the girl will feel emotionally that that push that we want her to feel. You're not desperate to get with you. Again. you're not intimidated. there's not really a tangible thing to fight against. Any of those really kind of lock you out in a more difficult to get around way. Like 21 and 22. © Sinns of Attraction LLC . if I wanted to make that longer I could. not actual disqualifiers but even by just giving these teasing funny disqualifiers. you'd see right through. you're 26. and they'll come back to bite you later on. and you disqualify the girl for it. you want your disqualifiers to be kind of funny and obviously. and you're going to work in your own kind of control. it's too bad you're not my type. if I wanted to make it a little bit shorter I could. you don't want to say: too bad I'm gay. That's something where. Attention holders never get along. it's just a barrier that amplifies the attraction. we live in the same apartment complex. I'd be: Oh. you'd want to know why I was hanging out with girls at a strip club—this would just never work. I can already tell talking to you. some girls fall for things. you're old enough to know better. Because that's really hardcore and that's going to really disqualify the girl and she can possibly think. Again. we have so much in common. so I'll say something like: You know what. Like when I told you I was going out with my friends. You don't want to say. that's a shame. funny disqualifies you. you're playful. and now you've lost attainability and that's no good. they're dumb enough to still fall for my tricks. doesn't lock you out. So instead. we can't be friends. and all the neighbors would talk. and again that's going to be more attractive. okay this guy wouldn't actually be attracted to me. that's another really good technique because you take something that most people would really be happy for. too bad I have a girlfriend. you'd be able to figure out all my tricks. attention holders never get along. it's not really definable. you never know. and again said very playfully: Oh my god you love being the center of attention. you're way too smart. it would never work. we should be together all the time. I'll even do that sometimes with girls' ages. that again. Instead you would want to say something like: It would never work out between us. you don't want to disqualify for not being your type. this would never work out.So the key with disqualifiers is you don't want to disqualify them for something that they can't really change or that's like physical. you put in reasons why you shouldn't be together instead of trying to be like.
If you guys want to post a message on the lounge to Sinn's Inner Circle Board which you guys have membership to when you're in this monthly CD series and I'll post the video of a backturn. But if you guys hit me up on that lounge I'll definitely post a video of it. Another one I do sometimes is: Wow it's really nice to meet you and you. again. But false time constraints can be really funny as a way to tease a group. I hope that makes everyone understand disqualification a little bit better because it is one of those things that is immensely powerful. and to make her want to break the barrier down. or does something that you can mock anger at. these are the ones I use myself in day to day pick up so I know they work. Also. that's kind of the physical manifestation of this. "Yeah. or I've got to go wash my hair. or that you're back-turning her and shunning her. definition of a false time constraint which is that you would throw those in really early on in your approach so that the girls would think you're not going to stay there and bother them all night. well-dressed. but we really shouldn't be together. then the world would grind to a halt and she will no longer be attracted. Like a big over the top comedy performance of a back-turn. the girl should not actually think you're walking away. is that you have to disqualify yourself as a potential suitor because if you showed any interest in the girl whatsoever. I don't think most girls are thinking when a cool. but I think girls will give you a few minutes. That's another really fun one. like: It can't be. the typical Mystery Method. well this is really interesting but I've got to go because I've got to feed my cat. you know. what does that say. we're really awesome. but guys just don't get it because of the way it was taught for years. If you're like: Do you like the band [inaudible]. and she goes. how long is this guy going to take. Neil Straus The Game. we could never get together because everyone would hate use—like literally the entire club would split into like two factions to dislike us because they'd be like it's unfair that the two of them are together.Another one I like is the power couple. I'd be like: Wow. This is another thing that I'll use to tease girls with. and then I'll act like I'm going to walk off without saying goodbye to the girl that I'm interested in. this is one I do a lot. Another thing you can do is you can back turn. I have some video of it. Again those are really well-constructed disqualifiers. False Time Constraints. Oh my God you love the [inaudible]—and my back-turner. socially adjusted guy walks up to them. I could be like: Wow. so it would never work out. So that's another way to tease: Oh. That's really good if the girl says. Again. These are not. me and you are like the two coolest people in here. Check those out. They work really nicely because again. It should be funny and over the top. I love [inaudible]". I like to just use it as a fun way to put barriers between us to create sexual tension. look at the © Sinns of Attraction LLC . my God. I think that kind of comes from low self-esteem thinking in my opinion. And back-turners when you do them should be really big and over the top. and years and years. it's hard to explain over audio. They do if you start boring the shit out of them. for example if I'm talking to girls and they're not really giving me much to work with. if we were together everyone would be jealous of us.
So those are the seven techniques for teasing. The last thing I want to talk about as a technique is the idea of Sexualized Teasing. I don't want to be around you when the lights go off. and I'll just slap lightly on the top of the hand and that's a really good way to sexually tease the girl. you'll be running for the hills. So one thing I'll do for sexual teasing is she'll say something kind of bratty. that there some sort of sexual something between us and that again. Those are all really good. Saying: Don't mess with me little girl. That's another really good one. and once I break out the mask into like three other people. All of those introduce sexuality in a fun way. I'm out of your league 2. and also demonstrate that I'm a sexual being. you will not be able to handle it. please try to contain yourself. I need to stay away from you.time. I'm still in control and I still am a little bit cooler than her. when they interrupt you is a another fun sexualized tease. things like: I would wreck you don't start. you're naughty. Calling the girls naughty. like: Oh my God. Or. so I like to start introducing sexuality into the interaction quickly by using kind of sexualized teasing to mess with the girl break rapport. A lot of the times when you introduce sexuality with humor it's going to get a much better response than if you try to introduce sexuality raw. like she's being punished. The classic tease that I'm known for: I don't know who your last boyfriend was but he obviously didn't spank you enough. you won't walk straight for a month. try to control yourself for a few more minutes. You've got: o Push-Pulls o Nicknames o Disqualifiers o False Time Constraints o Going Sexual The 5 Frames for Teasing: 1. you know. She's a sexual predator 3. and I'll be like: Give me your hand and I'll slap. Sexualized teasing is really good because it starts to open the frame of sexuality. I've really got to be getting home or I'll turn into a pumpkin by midnight. I understand that I have this effect on women. She's messing up with you © Sinns of Attraction LLC . Saying: "Daddy is talking". Another one I'll do: Look if you ever need to throw your panties at me. you really don't want to go there sweetie.
I'm trouble and She's crazy The 20 Skills Of Attraction: • Skill No. We talked about Story Telling. an awe. Relaxed body language. story telling is really important for sharing information. We talked about why touching is such a huge part of attraction. We talked about Group Dynamics the fifth skill—being able to handle different types of groups. 6 we talked about was Body Language. they give her something to push against or accept sub-personality-wise. We talked about why its important. it doesn't mean you sit there like Clint Eastwood. that it passively sets frames. Skill No. it shows you think you're cooler than the girl. they make you an authority. Skill No. • • • • • • • © Sinns of Attraction LLC . Next we talked about being Non-Reactive. etcetera. We also gave you the three endings that attraction stories should have: a laugh. 2 was Touching. I gave you three really good cold reads which you can use tonight. No nervous twitches. relating to people. or that's interesting.4. So always release the touching and that's the big lesson there. Next we talked about Cold Reads—skill No. it means you're not thrown off of your overall game plan. no extra movement. I also gave you three teasers at the beginning of the CD. three-plus sets. it keep things playful. and also why you can't go too far in a group because if you go too far you cut into her anti-slug defense and she doesn't want to look slutty in front of her friends. 1 was Teasing. you want it to be a 7 out of 10. everything like that. why they're important. They demonstrate understanding of women. We talked about the difference between non-reactive and non-expressive. singles. 4. 7 was Frame Control: Frame control is super-important because you want to control where the interaction is focused. Skill No. two sets. and you're not going to have emotional reactions to other people.
• • We talked about Locking In and becoming the social center of the group. Really simple. every guy has when it comes to being successful with women. making sure that everyone's paying attention to you and that you re-form the group. We talked about isolation being the first step in leading. Demonstrating that you're not too into the interaction. • • • • • • • • We talked about Willing to Walk Away. humor is huge it's one of the things that. and how there are three basic techniques that are good on that. really important for making sure that you have good delivery to keep everyone's attention and attraction. You know. I gave you a few little things to work on humor-wise and some suggestions as to how to become funnier in general. Giving funny answers. the three-step model for handling congruence test: o Agree o Absurdify o Change the subject. We talked about the three ways you need to lead. I gave you two of my favorite role plays. physically. acting like she wants you when she's acting like she wants you. Pre-selection is a very important concept. We talked about Role Playing. We talked about Delivery—Open loops and pauses. very important. and how it's great and gets girls out of the current environment and allows you to do a whole bunch of things at once. © Sinns of Attraction LLC . never need to worry about getting tested ever again. both verbally and demonstrated. like I said. the past girlfriend and the romantic date. We talked about Handling Congruence Test. We talked about why Understanding Women is so important. having those fun little back and forth of screening questions. Cold reads are a great way to demonstrate understanding of women by the way. We talked about Pre-Selection. and breaking up with her. making her jealous. that's all you need to do. We talked about Leading. giving her that fear of loss is something that really adds turbo fuel to your attraction phase. it's something that you need to install into your interactions because girls need to know that other girls like you. We talked about Cocky Funny. very important. very. We talked about Humor. logistically. verbally.
if I go into a 2-set. it's actually the way that you move between the phases. because as pretty as she is. we want to get the girl to tell us cool things about her. It's not really even a phase. By teasingly qualifying a girl. using your breath to breathe the words out faster and harder. Blowing people over with your voice. because we have to make girls attracted to us before we start hitting on them for the most part. So in qualification. • Qualification What is Qualification? Qualification is the most important phase of a pick up in my personal opinion. © Sinns of Attraction LLC . now I can spring into a role play and go. all of that stuff in the first phase—the attraction phase. but can you cook?" You're now setting the frame that you're funny. you're playful. You could go: I feel like you know so much about me and I know nothing about you. you guys seem really cool. "Oh! You guys are laughing. this is really important because if they can't hear you. actually I'm not sure if I'd need your permission yet.• We talked about the proper Conversation Ratio 90:10 for first 3 to 5 minutes. and I've already talked about it a little bit. "Hey. we want to demonstrate things to girls that show them that they should be attracted to us. can she cook?" And they laugh. your swagger attraction system for natural attraction comes in. Qualifying the girl as to how you're going to get her to start talking more about herself. slowly evening out through the process of qualification. This is where your storytelling. and don't be afraid to kind of bring up the fact that you've been talking a lot once you have attraction. We talked about Vocal Projection. so that we can start demonstrating interest. The Three Types of Qualification: (1) Teasing Qualification (2) Compliance-based Qualification (3) And Sexual Qualification So we'll start with Teasing Qualification. In the attraction phase. because it helps to set to set passive frames. Qualification in its most basic form is the opposite of the attraction phase. Then I go. and I go. the four characteristics. but I had to come meet your friend. is that alright with you?" And I say that to the obstacle. for example. "Wait. by saying something like. you're not taking this too seriously. Teasing qualification is great. I know this is really random. It opens the door for a ton of role plays. "You know. and why that's important. then the best game in the world and it doesn't matter.
in order to start moving into the next phase which is compliance-based qualification. You are always going to need to give the girl reasons you like her. I teach the guys an opening sequence that relies on social comfort openers. right? As soon as you get attraction and you've used your teasing qualifiers to move into your compliance-based qualification. you can throw out a teasing qualifier early on in the first 30 seconds of the set. Push-pull is the act of qualifying and disqualifying a girl. but you cant' cook. and now I just really feel it's all been a sham". the more likely she is to want to move to another venue. I really did like the fact that you gave massages. and the more she complies and the more she invests. out of the attraction phase and into the qualification part. we have Sexual Qualification: Actually let me go backwards a little bit— sorry about that. the more likely she is to want to make out with you. the one-month anniversary. So compliance-based qualification starts after attraction. they often neglect the qualifying aspect of teasing. the more likely she is to want to stick around. we're so broken up. in my 12 Months to Mastery Program. so that when you're this amazing attractive guy she can feel worthy. or teasing or anything like that. really early on. and how your goal is to get her to invest more in the interaction. because compliance-based qualification doesn't end until you're starting to get her to qualify herself sexually and you're starting to arouse her. the first date. When you're qualifying her you're still building momentum. and you're starting the train rolling to move you into the attraction phase. You're getting the girl to comply and invest in the interaction. date. Teasing qualifiers can be thrown out really. etcetera. and I can push and pull the girl and do my attraction phase by testing for qualification. that's horrible.you must not be able to cook. and you're escalating © Sinns of Attraction LLC . Because when guys talk about push-pull. and use that as a pole vault into a role-playing attraction. So you can use it to do both. So we just talked about compliance-based qualification and how it uses hoops. In fact. or you can use it when your attraction phase is peaking. Compliance-based Qualification is based on compliance and investment. This relates to the first pick up. that goes until you get a big hoop and then once you get a big hoop. and your 50-year anniversary. so that she feels qualified. You always need to be reaffirming what you like about the girl and letting her know what you like about her so that she doesn't get insecure. So a good example of the compliance-based qualification question is. Teasing qualification assists to move you out of the opening phase and into the attraction phase. what is your best quality? And lastly. you know you're in comfort but you want to still keep those qualifiers in there every 15 – 20 minutes just so that you're always giving her reasons you like her. Compliance-based qualification is used to move between attraction and seduction. and you also use it to move yourself into the arousal phase. What I mean by that is you use compliance-based qualification to move yourself into the comfort phase. and took care of me when I got home. Or. breaking rapport and then using teasing qualifiers.
This is where the basis of qualification and the idea of getting girls hoops came from. So the girl says. She's trying to get you to qualify yourself: are you willing to buy her a drink in order to have time to hang out with her.it and you're building her compliance and her tolerance to you flattering her. he said. When I took my boot camp back in 2004. I'll buy you a drink". You could jump right into them. "Buy me a drink". but generally if a girl is asking you to buy her a drink. or anything like that. So if a girl says. "Buy me a drink" that's a qualifier. you've passed successfully. but I'll get the next round if you get the first one". He © Sinns of Attraction LLC . And he gave the example of a girl saying. When I took my program with him. 1 underrated thing when it comes to frame control. 1 rule of pick up is. and hitting on her. you could put a hoop in front of her. The underlying of the frame is that you need to spend money to talk to her. there's a whole bunch of bad stuff that comes into buying a girl a drink when she asks for it. I got that that's what was missing in my interactions with women. It doesn't happen very often though. "Buy me a drink". So you have a couple different things you can do with these hoops. So now. "Well. "The No. anything that doesn't help you. and I only had one problem. So a girl asking you to buy her a drink you ignore it. "Okay. if she buys you a drink you've escalated compliance and you've got her kind of qualifying herself non-verbally to you. The other thing you could do is you could ignore it. Women are going to throw out hoops and you have a couple of different options. Now that doesn't mean that you don't ever buy girls drinks. and if she doesn't keep bringing it up. especially if she's asking. keep talking. I understood that this was the key to me getting better with girls. I've bought them drinks and gotten laid. I don't buy strangers drinks. I have had girls ask me to buy them drinks. Mystery only gave me one line for qualification. that there's a value differential. this is the idea of hoop theory. Ignoring things is the No. you can ignore it". you go. bad. Hoops for Compliance Based Qualification: Hoops were originally introduced by Mystery. Now is that always going to be a bad idea? Not 100% of the time because nothing is 100% of the time. bad. especially early on in the interaction she is trying to get you to set the frame that you're a lower value than her. you know. cool. especially in the first 3 – 5 minutes. My friend Captain Jack says. Most of the times if you buy a girl a drink right away. Now in qualification you're going to be dealing with a couple of different sized hoops. Or. qualification was like the big thing that stood out to me. which is what we want because those are the things that we need to do to get the girl into bed. You just go. Mystery explained why it was important. complimenting her. bad. So that was the idea of hoops.
I'm this. For example: • • • • • • Are you adventurous? Are you spontaneous? Do you consider yourself intelligent? Can you follow directions? Can you cook? Are you a good friend? All of those are small qualifying hoops. she doesn't want to get away from you. the more they've already said yes. But you can create your small hoops. once a girl was attractive and I said. 2 and 1. "What do you have going for you more than your looks". the more likely she is to comply later. really. and then build up to a big. it doesn't necessarily mean they don't like you. "What do you have going for you more than your looks?" And these interactions that were going really. and it's legitimately true. it's too big of a hoop. they'll say no. if girls are going to be uncomfortable. it's any positive female stereotype: • Are you intuitive? © Sinns of Attraction LLC . But the rest of the time I would get this weird. large hoop. and I went out and I did that 50 times in the first week. and you ask her one of those questions. Now how do we get there? So I started the idea of small hoops. that or the other". really. So I figured what is a Small Hoop? And a small hoop is very simple. she was like "Well. say: What do you have going for you more than your looks?" Which is really. because I was under aged still. Like 5 of those approaches were probably. medium hoops and large hoops. really well turned quickly. We will talk about how to tell if an answer is true or false in qualification in a little bit. So I thought. harsh. Every now and then you will get girls who are boring and if you ask them if they're adventurous or spontaneous. there's got to be some kind of way around this. and I saw the idea of a "Yes Ladder" and it got me thinking and in sales a yes ladder is the idea that people are more likely to say yes. That does happen from time to time. and this was just something basic. that I was reading anyway. and may be like 10% of the time it would work— maybe. really well. 2.said. This was the start of compliance momentum. and those sets would go really. If a girl is at least semi-attracted to you. so I went out and I was doing day game. "Go up to girls and once you've gotten three indicators of interest. it is an easily answerable yes or no question that fits into a positive female stereotype. they're not going to want to answer that even if they're attracted. I figured. Like I figured: What do you have going for yourself? I did the field work. meaning she doesn't want the conversation to end. so I started reading some sales literature. weird dynamic where the girl would be like "What kind of question is that?" Or. but simply because they're boring girls. "What makes me want to get to know you?" Or. So that's where we want to end up. So what if you could get a girl to qualify herself in a really small way. In terms of pick up I've written about this one that comes to compliance momentum—right? The more a girl complies. okay.
they're not super hardcore questions. they're not things like: What do you study? Or. But if you get two medium hoops your large hoop almost always takes. or if she's just being polite. so you're going to throw those out first. and you'll want to throw those out as soon as you see any sort of attraction whatsoever. etcetera. "What do you do for fun?" And she goes. but they're not medium hoops. So again. and a medium hoop is different from a small hoop in that it is not a yes or no question. Let's look at the example I gave of: what do you do for fun.• • • • Are you good at reading people? Are you fun? Do you like to dance? Are you a good dancer? Or anything that's a positive female stereotype. because if you get too small hoops. Some examples of medium hoops are: • • • • • • • • • • What do you do for fun? What nationality are you? What do you want to be when you grow up? If you could be anything in the world with no chance of failure. it doesn't necessarily guarantee that the medium hoop's going to take. The girls could just be enjoying the emotional stimulation. Then we have Medium Hoops. In my opinion they're actually the most important. where it's obvious you're trying to get them to qualify themselves but they're a little more intimate and much more opportunity for the girl to say nothing. super important because this is where you're going to find out if the girl actually likes you. or give you a blow-off of answer than the small hoops. Medium hoops are questions where she has to legitimately think a little bit more about whether or not she wants to answer this. So let's take a look at what can happen with a medium hoop. do you like to hang out with friends. That's why it's so important that you pay attention to medium qualifying hoops. or go out a lot? Those aren't qualifying questions. Medium hoops are super. Medium hoops are where the rubber really meets the road. Are you good with fashion? Anything like that. those are just rapport questions and there's nothing wrong with them. Medium hoops are not yes or no questions. and we'll talk about when to do that kind of stuff in a little bit—waypoints and qualification pinging at the end of the CD. a yes or no question—small hoop. © Sinns of Attraction LLC . I say to a girl. There is nothing wrong with having rapport questions or fluff questions in between your material. what would you be? What are you passionate about? What is missing in your life? What is the one thing that you really think is super-important? Who is your best friend? What would your best friend say about you? Etcetera.
"Ah. we instead want to focus on setting up a date for a specific time at a specific place where the two of us are going to do something. So the first thing to talk about when setting up a date is the timing of it. Lastly. But that's the example of what can happen where a girl gives you an answer that on the surface. Generally. you know. Large Hoops: and we're going to conclude the kind of review of basic qualification with large hoops. then you are done with attraction. The idea of setting up a date because we don't get phone numbers. some activity. you can set up a date. "I'm a mutt". what would you do to stand out? What do you have going for you besides your looks? What is the coolest thing about you? What is your best quality—or best 3 qualities? Setting Up Dates and Phone Game Now. or any of those other questions. you can start moving into comfort. they're going to do it anyway. that's probably my favorite hobby. or "I'm a bunch of things". the usual stuff. She's showing you she's not that attracted yet. So a qualifying question. really into yoga". these are where you're going to know if she's attracted. If a girl answers these with anything substantial. and stuff like that. So here are some examples of large hoops I like to use: • • • • • • • What is your best quality? What is your favorite thing about yourself? Why would I want to get to know you? If everyone in here looked exactly the same. because you want to establish the dynamic of her chasing you. any time after 25 minutes. getting a phone number or setting up a date. seems like maybe she's not blowing you off. I'll teach you guys how to handle that in troubleshooting. Hang out with friends. like we talked about on the last CD Series—Phone Game 2. like a large hoop. She gave me a blow off answer. The same thing with. but because you built up so much momentum already. If she gives you 2 or 3 specific things that she does for fun. I want to talk about what happens before you even get on the date. They've chased you for long enough that now they're going to keep chasing.0. Now I'm in trouble. I also really like to shop and right now I'm really. when in reality she actually is. then you've got the right answer. You can also come up with your own medium hoops. The right answer you want is for her to go: "Oh! I love reading. and getting rewarded for putting in more effort in qualifying herself more. They're questions where girls are going to realize that they're qualifying themselves to you. Twenty-five minutes is really the investment © Sinns of Attraction LLC . I don't know". even though she qualified herself twice already. that means this girl's not attracted to me. So it's not a big deal. she's still not attracted enough that she's going to actually get into her hobbies and passions. Large hoops are blatantly qualifying questions. That's why it's so important to do 2 medium and 2 small. what nationality are you? She can go.
There's a little bit of pre-selection like everything Captain Jack does. smoke the hooker. So you'd be like. Like when you're going for the phone number and the setup date you want to be very confident and you will want to speak clearly and firmly. it's the coolest hooker place. You have different ideas of things that you're going to invite girls to every time. and she was looking through my phone and I didn't really think anything of it at the time but when I looked at my phone the next day she had deleted every female number in my phone. So there should be a little buzzer that goes off in your head every time you're 25 minutes into an interaction with a girl and it's going well. You want to have a standard date that you invite girls on. So you bait her. "Have you ever been to the Gypsy Tea Room?" Or. Now the second part is Seeding. and then you want to go for The Date. right now she's hooked. I'd love to bring you with me next to Gypsy Tea Room. reel. So I'd say. and you seem really. really cool. a really well put together routine. It's got these really cool pillows and they have the best cheese cake ever". So when I lived in Dallas we would seed with this story that Captain Jack came up with called The Stripper-X deleted My Numbers. "Have you ever been to [Crownling? or anything like that. I think it actually happened to him. it's time to set up a date. Like have a plan and be complimentary. You know last week me and my friends went over to the Gypsy Tea Room. you should definitely check it out". release and then close. and seeding is telling a story that takes place in the place that you're going to invite her. There I'm overselling. For a while mine was smoking hooker in Dallas. you talk about something else for a few minutes. for a while it was a mini pub crawl in Dallas. hook. there's a little bit of framing in there. then you release. seeds— it also qualifies that she's not jealous. hook. which is a strip club in Dallas. you go. You're like. except it's bait. Seeding a date is very much like Mystery's classical vacation model: bait. for a while it was improv-comedy in Los Angeles. right. this is key in the seed. So you want to go through one of those four cycles. really cool. "You know—" and you always want to compliment when you go for the close. Then you tell the story. Then you reel her back in. you let it go. me and my friends go there every Wednesday like around 8:00-ish so let's © Sinns of Attraction LLC . release. It's just really fun in the middle of the week to go out have a couple drinks. Now you go back to talking normal comfort stuff for a few minutes. "You definitely gotta go sometime. The reason we go back to talking about normal comfort is we want to take it away. even my mom's and my grandma's—that's crazy". Ideally you want to start this about 15 minutes into your interaction with a girl. I meet a lot of people but it's really rare that I meet someone I actually want to hang out with again. "Yeah I was there last week with my Ex and we were actually there a little bit later because she had to dance at 11:00 she used to work at Jaguars.point where the girl at this point likes you enough that she'll probably want to see you again. Again. "You know. You want to qualify her first. and then you go. The guy who owns it is this hysterical like older Lebanese guy who comes out and tells these amazing stories. this is what you want to start doing 25 minutes in if you haven't already done it. But I won't invite her. I'm just overselling the place so it sounds really. So now you've seeded it. reel. "You're not the jealous type are you? Good. we go there almost every Wednesday".
but I think it would be really cool to have you there next week. First when to call. that's very. specific place. Specific time. like you have a specific plan you're confident in where you're going and you close specifically. very consistent. © Sinns of Attraction LLC . right. really nice about it.exchange numbers and we'll figure out driving and stuff. I usually will try to find some callback humor or point of reference in our conversation so she'll recognize it's me. The longer you hang out with a girl the more likely she is to not flake. because it's more unobtrusive and an easy way to get your number into her phone giving a higher chance of her picking up when you call. but firm. So now you're seeded. and stay in as long as you can. Phone Game Post from 10/10/06 By Jon Sinn I've been asked by a bunch of people to type up some of my thoughts on phone game This is mostly stuff I've gathered from other sources so major props go to Mystery. My main goal is ONLY to establish contact over the phone so it's not weird when I call her tomor. Get the phone number then go back to talking about normal stuff. EX: Hey George ( callback to Boy name routine) do you know a good place to eat around here? With txts it's important to make sure you follow her time table and don't respond right awasy when she txts back. very. figure out driving on the phone. I will call everyday for about a month to make sure I get in contact as if I can get a girl on the phone I will get her into bed every time. I prefer to text the same night if it's really on and if it's not I wait until the next day. I alway text first. You want to be really complimentary. Style and especially Future who has the tightest comfort game of anyone period. Alwasy wait around the same amount of time she waited if not longer.
Here's a great secondary VM to leave from Hollywood in NY: ' " Hey it's me. I always leave messages and I never EVER block my number. I talk about my passions and what I'm working on and I may begin my grounding sequence.) and I wanted to ask you something. I never ask what she's doing. Call me back 555-555-5555. I NEVER try to get a girl out on the first phone call. instead say you'll talk to her later. by asking her to put whatever she's doing away for five minutes to talk to you. I will vary the times I call at from 3 AM to noon. The phone talk ration is almost 90/10 in the begginning as one of the main things a girl is looking for on a call is if there will be awkward silence. I tell stories( always the same ones BTW). say "sorry wrong person" If I have left a message and she hasn't called back . Girls hate when you just call and don't leave a message. she should want to talk to you. © Sinns of Attraction LLC . And I will leave a message everytime. why would she want to see you in person? Remember to alwasy time constraint your phone calls. Because if it's not fun on the phone. what's she's going to do that night etc. alwasy make her commit to the call." I would rather get a machine then a person as I can gauge how interested she is by how quickly she calls back.. When you do get her on the phone. I call and bust on her. it's Jon I just saw something about x( an interest of hers like surfing etc.. If you did your job on the D1 then there is no reason to try to be sneaky to get her on the phone. If not I'll talk to you later.I leave a hook message the first time: " Hey bratface. Something I learned from Mystery is when you get back from call waiting call her baby and then if she asks why you did that. I will also always pick up my call waiting and sometimes I will take fake calls. Once you have not had your initial voicmail don't ask her to call you back again. I'm gonna be in and out all day but try to catch me.
etc. treat them like you were calling for them. and your grounding routine are great here as well. This is money because it's not implying a large commitment of time as I have something to do later. and if not make one up.) Something you hate or love about the girl.At this point I will start my "hijacked my brain campaign" and alternate between teasing. The phone is a comfort building location. Some drama you or a friend are having.. What are some topics and themes for the phone ? Your favorite new song and band What you are really excited about this week. Especially with 5 min or under # closes ( my speciality) you really need to fill in the © Sinns of Attraction LLC .. then describe her but change her name to margret or ethel). project runway. If you get anyone else on the phone. if you are doing well on the phone after a few minutes the girl will ask what you are doing that night. DHV laced stories. Say you've heard a lot of good things about them and ask them if they are interested in coming with your target on whatever your time bridge was. so you can act the exact same way you would in person. The funniest thing that just happened to you. and comfort building material. This is super money as you'll be the last person on her mind at night and the first in the morning. I'm always looking for her trying to make plans with me. The absolute wrong answer is " I don't know". hot/cold. ( here's one of my routines where I talk about how I met an awesome girl. It is simply another location in which to game her. After a few mins of this they should ask you if you want to talk to your target.. If a girl responds positively to what I'm doing I will invite her to tag along to something I'm doing earlier. Your family. Another favorite tactic of mine is to call really later at night and talk to her until one of us goes to sleep. At this point you should have a DHV laced activity set up. I also send out mass good morning and good nite texts once or twice a week. Your fav girl centric show( think Gray's anatomy. How you met a really cool girl whose name is . Make her imagine that you are right next to her while your talking.
Some guys prefer to say hey it's me or let the girl try to figure it out.. IME that is awkward and doesn't work.. Finally something I'm throwing together now is my preliminary phone game structure: Call Greeting: I say introduce yourself on the phone.. But with solid game you shouldn't have to.canvas of your life in order to make her want to see you again. because it will save you the awkward moment if she doesn't remember you. You can def convince a girl to see you over the phone. Get off the phone simply with " I have to run. When I do I'll update this." I'm sure there's more but I can't think of anything else right now. Future adventure projection: OMG If we are still friends in a month I am having the biggest party. I just had the worst meeting ever. Stories SOI(Statements of interest) about her in some unique fashion that she sees herself.. you have to come etc. © Sinns of Attraction LLC . Hook story: The funniest thing just happened. Here I wait to see if she asks to come or thinks it's really cool. I'll talk to you later. Teasing Hijacked my brain thread Talk about what I'm doing that night I'm excited about. I love the Fashion Valley mall etc.
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By George Edward Carpenter. White to mate in two moves.
By George Edward Carpenter. White to mate in two moves.
Two poles stand vertically on level ground. One is 10 feet tall, the other 15 feet tall. If a line is drawn from the top of each pole to the bottom of the other, the two lines intersect at a point 6 feet above the ground. What's the distance between the poles?
By Josef Drnek. White to mate in two moves.
Nokes went, he thought, to Styles's wife to bed,
Nor knew his own was laid there in her stead;
Civilian, is the child then begot
To be allow'd legitimate or not?
— Bon Ton Magazine, July 1794
Chris Maslanka devised this brainteaser for the Gathering for Gardner held in Atlanta in April 2004:
A bouquet contains red roses, whites roses, and blue roses. The total number of red roses and white roses is 100; the total number of white roses and blue roses is 53; and the total number of blue roses and red roses is less than that.
How many roses of each color are there?
By Heinrich Friedrich Ludwig Meyer. White to mate in two moves.
Place the digits 1 through 8 into these circles so that no two successive numbers are connected by a line. If we don't count rotations or reflections, the solution is unique.
By Josef Cumpe, 1908. White to mate in two moves.
Edward Elgar loved hidden meanings. The English composer filled his letters with wordplay and musical riddles, and he named one of his family homes Craeg Lea, an anagram of the names (C)arice (A)lice and (E)dward ELGAR.
Two of his puzzles have never been solved. One lies at the heart of the so-called Enigma variations, a set of 14 variations on a theme that Elgar said is "not played." What does this mean? "The Enigma I will not explain," he wrote in a program note for the first performance in 1899. "Its 'dark saying' must be left unguessed, and I warn you that the connection between the Variations and the Theme is often of the slightest texture; further, through and over the whole set another and larger theme 'goes', but is not played. … So the principal Theme never appears, even as in some late dramas … the chief character is never on the stage." He took the solution to his grave, and music lovers have been searching for the hidden theme for more than 100 years.
The second mystery lies in a letter that Elgar wrote two years before Enigma premiered. On July 14, 1897, he sent the message above to 22-year-old Dora Penny, the daughter of his close friend Alfred Penny, rector of St. Peter's, Wolverhampton. "It is well known that Elgar was always interested in puzzles, ciphers, cryptograms, and the like," she wrote in her book Edward Elgar: Memories of a Variation. "The cipher here reproduced — the third letter I had from him, if indeed it is one — came to me enclosed in a letter from [Elgar's wife] to my stepmother. On the back of it is written 'Miss Penny.' It followed upon their visit to us at Wolverhampton in July 1897. I have never had the slightest idea what message it conveys; he never explained it and all attempts to solve it have failed. Should any reader of this book succeed in arriving at a solution it would interest me very much to hear of it."
No satisfactory solution has ever been found. Elgar named Dora herself as the inspiration for the 10th variation of the Enigma, so some wonder whether this was a clue. When she asked him in later life about the musical puzzle, he said, "I thought you, of all people, would guess it." But no one knows what this means, and if Dora ever found the answer she told no one before her death in 1964. Perhaps the solution is now beyond our reach.
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UPGRADES IN THE WORKS: In Charlotte, Erik Spanberg cited a source as saying that the "starting point for negotiations" between the city of Charlotte and the Panthers "for a public investment in upgrades to Bank of America Stadium would keep the team here for 10 years." Sources emphasize that "no decisions have been made and that talks are continuing with the NFL franchise." What is known thus far is that the Panthers and the city have "discussed a 10-year commitment for the team in exchange for $125 million in city tax money -- even though the public's share would take 15 years to be repaid with tax receipts from prepared-food taxes across the city" (BIZJOURNALS.com, 1/17).
MISSING THEIR MARK: In Minneapolis, Jean Hopfensperger noted the electronic pulltab sales "slated to help fund the Vikings stadium are nowhere near their projected target, even after the state lowered that target last month," a Minnesota House committee learned Wednesday. Gross sales through December "were $4.2 million, far behind the $17.2 million projected to be raised by the end of July." Minnesota Gambling Control Board Exec Dir Tom Barrett attributed the "slower-than-expected growth to charities' desire for more competition among vendors and to the roughly $800 upfront costs to bar owners to install wireless connections for the games" (Minneapolis STAR TRIBUNE, 1/17).
OFF TO THE RACES: DAILY RACING FORM's Steve Andersen noted Betfair Hollywood Park will "run a fall meeting in November and December, ending months of speculation whether the track would continue to conduct racing or be closed for development at the end of the summer." Track President Jack Liebau "did not state whether the track would operate in 2014, or be closed and developed for residential and commercial uses." He said the track's decision to race this fall was "a close call" (DRF.com, 1/17).


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Another profitless year for European airline industry
IATA chief: European carriers "balancing on a knife edge"
If you're a business traveler in Europe, you'll no doubt have complained at length about the regions' airlines, be it the cost of a plane ticket, the quality of the food or the delays. It's natural to feel hard done-by.
If it's any consolation, however, you're not the only one grumbling at the unfairness of it all. According to the IATA (International Air Transport Association) 2013 is expected to be another profitless year for the European airline industry. Tony Tyler, IATA's director general and CEO, argues that the industry is "balancing on a knife edge" with even the sturdiest and more established airlines feeling the pressure.
You only have to look at the profits forecast for the year to see how behind we really are. According to the Association of European Airlines, the sector is expected to lose $1.5 billion this year. U.S. carriers however, are expected to fare better and post profits totalling $3.4 billion.
Tyler argues this disparity is in part down to sluggish economic growth in Europe; crucially, however, it can also be impacted by what he calls "onerous" EU regulation and legislation. As an example, he cites delays: "There can be delays absolutely outside the control of the airline, but the airline still has to not only compensate the passenger but also to meet a whole lot of costs of those delays for passengers." The additional costs don't end there either: air traffic control costs are roughly double in Europe than they are in the United States.
The costs vary on land too. Europe's economic crisis has meant some governments have increased airport operating charges. In an opinion piece in Spain's El Pais, Tony Tyler argues that European airlines face "significant hurdles to sustained profitability, starting with the cost of airport and airways infrastructure." Spain's Madrid and Barcelona airports are a case in point: there, Tyler says, airlines have seen a 50% increase in charges.
Despite cutting legacy costs through mergers, consolidation and restructuring, European carriers are still facing the heavy hand of regulation and government, adds Tyler. "Just look at what's happening now in Spain with Iberia for example; very difficult to do the necessary restructuring in that environment".
Tyler is referring to battle between IAG (International Airlines Group) and the Spanish government. Whilst IAG's Chief Executive, Willie Walsh, wants to cut jobs and restructure the loss-making airline, the Spanish government is wary of a shrinking brand Iberia, which it argues is closely associated with 'brand España'.
Speaking to me from Geneva, Tony Tyler called on governments to do more to help European carriers. He argues they can start by helping to control cost, by adding more runways, and repelling "some of the excessively onerous consumer protection regulation." In his words, to make Europe's airlines more competitive, government needs "to back off."
But in a time of great economic crisis in Europe, where each country is facing their own internal struggle, backing off may just be too painful for government.
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