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United States Department of Agriculture
Agricultural Research Service
Issue: May/June 2004
The Northern PlainFacts from the USDA-ARS Northern Plains Agricultural Research Laboratory in Sidney, Montana, offers brief updates on research, personnel and events at the lab, and includes contact names and e-mail addresses for those interested in further details.
In This Month's Issue:
Scientists to participate in regional weed biological control meetingLab to host BLM Resource Advisory CouncilScientist to search for plant pathogens in Hungary
Scientists to participate in national microbiology/mentoring meeting
BLM reps discuss joint projects in visit to Sidney, MT, ARS lab
Swiss molecular biologist to give seminar at NPARL
Entomologist invited to give grasshopper workshop
Rep invited to present noxious weed identification classBusch Ag lab techs tour ARS research facility in Montana
Botanist to compare DNA of overseas Tamarix to US genotypesARS rep conducts informational purchasing workshop
ARS researchers to expand GPFARM to include Eastern MT and Western ND data
ARS' TEAM Leafy Spurge wins FLC Honorable Mention
Soil scientist invited to speak at Georgia universities
Agricultural Research Service (ARS) Scientist to Attend Entomological Meeting
Montana ARS researchers to participate in farm Field Day
ARS' TEAM Leafy Spurge program wins 2004 Secretary's Honor Award
Scientists to participate in regional weed biological control meeting
NPARL representatives will be participating in a regional Interagency Biological Weed Control Meeting hosted by the Montana State Office of the Bureau of Land Management on May 6th in Billings, MT. Attending from the USDA-ARS Northern Plains Agricultural Research Laboratory in Sidney, MT are Drs. Tom Shanower and John Gaskin. Dr. Shanower, an entomologist, heads up the Sidney lab's Pest Management Research Unit, and Dr. Gaskin, a botanist, is investigating the systematics and biological control of noxious weeds. The BLM meeting pulls together federal, state and university representatives to review weed biological control work in the state and to examine possibilities for cooperative efforts. In addition to ARS and BLM, other federal agencies participating include the Bureau of Reclamation, the Fish and Wildlife Service, the Forest Service and the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service.
(John Gaskin, 406.433.9444, jgaskin[at]sidney.ars.usda.gov)
(Thomas Shanower, 406.433.9405, tshanower[at]sidney.ars.usda.gov)
Lab to host BLM Resource Advisory Council
NPARL will host the quarterly meeting of the Eastern Montana Resource Advisory Council of the Bureau of Land Management at the Sidney, MT, ARS laboratory on May 6, 2004. As part of its quarterly meeting, the council and BLM field managers and representatives from the Billings and Miles City, MT offices will tour the facility and meet with individual scientists upon request to discuss weed and pest issues. In addition to the lab visit, members will be touring other public sites in the area, in particular the recently completed Yellowstone Missouri Confluence Interpretive Center located at the confluence of the two rivers just across the North Dakota border. There they hope to learn more about what issues may arise from planned construction of BLM's own new interpretive center at Pompey's Pillar near Billings, MT. Resource Advisory Councils were created in 1995 to advise the BLM on land management programs and issues. Each RAC consists of local residents who represent three broad interest categories: commodity interests, non-commodity interests, and government/academic interests. RAC members are chosen by the Secretary of the Interior, in consultation with the Governor of the state in which they serve.
Scientist to search for plant pathogens in Hungary
NPARL Research Plant Pathologist Anthony Caesar will travel to Hungary and Austria May 6-18, 2004 to collect Uromyces scutellatus samples. U. scutellatus is a rust of the noxious weed leafy spurge, Euphorbia esula, and is being studied as a potential biocontrol agent for that weed. Joining him will be fellow Plant Pathologist Dr. Tim Widmer, Acting Lab Director of the USDA / ARS - European Biological Control Lab in Montpellier, France. The samples collected will be taken to the quarantine facility at Montana State University - Bozeman for further study to help determine at what developmental stage the rust will successfully infect leafy spurge in the U.S. In addition to sample collections for leafy spurge biocontrol, Drs. Caesar and Widmer will also be looking for promising pathogens for use against another noxious weed, whitetop or hoary cress.
(Anthony Caesar, 406.433.9412, caesara[at]sidney.ars.usda.gov)
Scientists to participate in national microbiology/mentoring meeting
NPARL Plant Pathologist Anthony Caesar and NPARL Microbiologist TheCan Caesar will be attending the 104th general meeting of the American Society of Microbiology to be held in New Orleans, LA, May 23-27, 2004 and have been invited to meet with minority and women students at the event who are interested in mentors in the field. Dr. Anthony Caesar is a member of ASM's Minority Education Committee, which helped plan the mentoring event. That committee will also meet during the general session to discuss results from the previous year's outreach and mentoring activities and to plan for additional outreach efforts in the coming year. The Society's scientific program in New Orleans will feature nearly 300 individual colloquia, symposia, roundtable discussions, award lectures, and poster sessions. Topics include advances and controversies in clinical microbiology and epidemiology, pathogenesis and host defense, general and applied microbiology, microbial physiology, environmental microbiology, molecular biology and virology.
(Anthony Caesar, 406.433.9412, caesara[at]sidney.ars.usda.gov)(TheCan Caesar, 406.433.9415, caesart[at]sidney.ars.usda.gov)
BLM reps discuss joint projects in visit to Sidney, MT, ARS lab
Bureau of Land Management representatives from the Billings, MT regional office toured the USDA-ARS lab in Sidney May 19-20, 2004 to discuss ongoing and future collaborations with NPARL scientists. Participating from the Billings state office were Hank McNeel, BLM weed and pest coordinator for Montana; Bill Volk and Vic Roberts, BLM biological weed control coordinator for Montana. The trio met with scientists from NPARL's Pest Management Research Unit to discuss ongoing and future biological control efforts against saltcedar, hoary cress and other noxious weeds, as well as other range and soil health issues. ARS and BLM have cooperated on weed biological control research and implementation since the mid-1980s.
Swiss molecular biologist to give seminar at NPARL
Dr. Hannes Richter from the Federal Research Station for Plant Protection, Switzerland will be giving an invited seminar Wednesday, June 2 at the USDA-ARS Northern Plains Agricultural Research Laboratory in Sidney, MT. The title of his presentation is "The expression of the stilbene synthase gene family in response to downy mildew grape interaction." Dr. Richter is a plant molecular biologist specializing in resistance of grape to mildew (Plasmopara viticola), in particular the molecular biology of pathogenesis- and resistance-related proteins. He is collaborating with NPARL's Agricultural Systems Research Unit on its "Soil Quality and Grapevine Resistance to Fungal Diseases" project and will be meeting with scientists from that unit during his visit to the Sidney, MT lab.
Entomologist invited to give grasshopper workshop
NPARL Research Entomologist Dr. David Branson has been invited to give a special Grasshopper Management Workshop to members of the Prairie County Grazing Association in Terry, MT, on Wednesday, June 2. The event is sponsored by the Bureau of Land Management. Dr. Branson will discuss preventative management of grasshoppers, as well as the pest's general biology and means of identification. Dr. Branson and his colleagues at NPARL represent the largest collection of scientists working on grasshopper research in North America. As part of his research, Dr. Branson has been studying the impact of various grazing regimens on the outbreak potential of pest grasshopper populations.
(Dave Branson, 406.433.9406, dbranson[at]sidney.ars.usda.gov)
Rep invited to present noxious weed identification class
NPARL Biological Science Technician Kimberly Mann has been invited to lead the Noxious Weed Identification segment of a four-county, annual training workshop for county weed supervisors and their crews. Approximately 35-40 participants are expected to participate in the workshop to be held June 2 in Circle, MT. In addition to Mann's noxious weed identification presentation, participants at the workshop will receive training in pesticide safety, application techniques and more from a variety of presenters.
(Kim Mann, 406.433.9428, kmann[at]sidney.ars.usda.gov)
Busch Ag lab techs tour ARS research facility in Montana
The USDA-ARS Northern Plains Agricultural Research Laboratory hosted a two-day training session for 15 Busch Ag Resources lab technicians in its Tech Transfer Room on June 2-3. As part of that session, NPARL Pest Management Research Leader Thomas Shanower and NPARL Agricultural Systems Research Leader Robert Evans provided the group with a tour of the Sidney, Montana ARS facility on Thursday, June 3. Busch Ag Resources built a malt barley loading facility in Sidney in 2003.
Botanist to compare DNA of overseas Tamarix to US genotypes
NPARL Research Botanist John Gaskin will be traveling to Greece, Bulgaria, and Russia June 7-22. In Greece and Bulgaria he will be collecting DNA from specimens of Tamarix to compare with US invasive genotypes. This is potentially out of the native range of US invasive Tamarix species, but the area is the source of the biocontrol agent Diorhabda elongata., which has shown success as a biocontrol agent against the US species. This collecting will be in cooperation with Javid Kashefi, USDA Thessaloniki, Greece. In Russia, Dr. Gaskin will be surveying the northern range limits of Tamarix ramosissima in order to compare DNA from these accessions with US invasive Tamarix ramosissima genotypes. Climate matching models between areas on both continents that share the invasive genotypes will be used to infer potential spread of T. ramosissima into Canada.
(John Gaskin, 406.433.9444, jgaskin[at]sidney.ars.usda.gov)
ARS rep conducts informational purchasing workshop
In an effort to aid area merchants interested in doing business with the Federal Government, the USDA-ARS Northern Plains Agricultural Research Laboratory in Sidney, MT is hosting two special workshops Tuesday, June 8, to acquaint interested parties with changes in existing rules for doing business with federal agencies. NPARL Purchasing Agent Linda Tewalt will conduct the informational sessions which will provide guidelines on the new registration process required for doing business with the federal government. The registration process affects those doing more than $2,500 in business and are part of new rule changes that went into effect last October.(Linda Tewalt, 406.433.9420, ltewalt[at]sidney.ars.usda.gov)
ARS researchers to expand GPFARM to include Eastern MT and Western ND data
Soil Scientist Jed Waddell and Aide Henry Council from the Sidney lab's Agricultural Systems Research Unit will meet with Drs. Laj Ahuja, research leader, and Gale Dunn, soil scientist, at the Great Plains System Unit in Ft. Collins June 9 to develop a collaborative effort to test and evaluate the use of GPFARM version 2.6 in Eastern Montana and Western North Dakota. GPFARM was developed to provide users with a source of information to assist them in evaluating farm and ranch management options and in making decisions regarding the profitable use of the land they manage. The GPFARM Information System includes information regarding: Crops and crop management; Range and pasture management; Livestock production; Soil, water, and nutrient management, and Pests and pest control. The numerous sources of information integrated into the software include agricultural databases, research and extension fact sheets, and other pertinent commercial, state, and federal sources. For his part, Dr. Waddell will be working with the Great Plains Unit scientists to collect and evaluate data from Eastern Montana and Western North Dakota for incorporation into the GPFARM software.
ARS' TEAM Leafy Spurge wins FLC Honorable Mention
A national consortium of federal laboratories has presented the Agricultural Research Service's TEAM Leafy Spurge program with an Honorable Mention at its annual Awards for Excellence in Technology Transfer program held in San Diego, CA on May 5. The Federal Laboratory Consortium for Technology Transfer (FLC) award recognized TEAM Leafy Spurge for its excellence in the "Dissemination of Effective, Affordable, and Sustainable Leafy Surge Management Technologies." TEAM, (which stands for The Ecological Area-wide Management of) Leafy Spurge, a six-year research and demonstration project begun in 1997, has distributed more than 48 million biological control flea beetles; traveled more than 250,000 miles to give 100 plus presentations, and produced more than 20 informational products, including brochures, CD-ROMs, manuals, newspaper articles and a PBS documentary. These informational products have reached a huge audience, with close to 45,000 copies of its most popular product – a "how-to" manual on the biological control of leafy spurge – distributed in the U.S. and Canada. The program was funded by ARS; headquartered at the ARS Northern Plains Agricultural Research Laboratory in Sidney, MT, and managed cooperatively with USDA's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service. The FLC is a nationwide network of federal laboratories organized in 1974 and formally chartered by the Federal Technology Transfer Act of 1986 to promote and strengthen technology transfer nationwide. More than 700 major federal laboratories and centers and their parent departments and agencies are FLC members including NASA and the Departments of Defense and Energy.
(Gerald Anderson, 406.433.9416, ganderson[at]sidney.ars.usda.gov)
Soil scientist invited to speak at Georgia universities
Soil Scientist Upendra Sainju was invited to speak to faculty, staff and students at Fort Valley State University in Fort Valley, GA, Wednesday, June 2. Dr. Sainju, a member of NPARL's Agricultural Systems Research Unit, discussed "Rhizoma peanut and perennial weeds influence on soil carbon and nitrogen pools." In addition to that presentation, Dr. Sainju is also participating in an Energy and Agriculture Utilization Symposium at the University of Georgia, Athens, on June 10-11. His presentation there is entitled "Management Practices on carbon sequestration in cotton and sorghum."
(Upendra Sainju, 406.433.2020, usainju[at]sidney.ars.usda.gov)
Agricultural Research Service (ARS) Scientist to Attend Entomological Meeting
Entomologist Thomas Shanower, Research Leader with NPARL's Pest Management Research Unit, is heading up a Symposium entitled "Progress Towards IPM of Wheat Stem Sawfly" at the 88th Annual Meeting of the Pacific Branch of the Entomological Society of America in Bozeman, MT June 20-23. Dr. Shanower and Dr. David Weaver with the Department of Entomology at Montana State University-Bozeman, are co-organizers and moderators for the June 22 symposium. Dr. Shanower's research focus at the Sidney ARS lab is on the classical biological control of the wheat stem sawfly, in conjunction with Drs. Kim A. Hoelmer and Marie-Claude Bon, both with the USDA-ARS European Biological Control Laboratory, Campus International de Baillaguet, Montferrier-sur-lez, France. Dr. Shanower will present an update on the trio's research progress during the ESA symposium.
Montana ARS researchers to participate in farm Field Day
NPARL researchers are among the featured speakers at the 2004 Froid Research Farm Tour to be held Thursday, June 24 at the Eastern Montana farmsite. Participants from NPARL's Agricultural Systems Research Unit and their topics include: Weed Ecologist Andy Lenssen, Forage rotation study; Soil Scientist Jed Waddell, Phosphorous effects on nitrogen fixation by peas; Soil Scientist Upendra Sainju, Nitrogen and carbon pooling in soils; and Microbiologist TheCan Caesar, Soil aggregation. Also participating in this year's tour will be Montana State University Cropland Specialist Fabian Menalled; MSU Extension Entomologist Sue Blodgett, Montana Salinity Control representative Jane Holzer and Wolf Point (MT) Drug Prevention Taskforce representative Ron Kemp. Topics they will address include: alternative crops and their importance in crop rotations, saline seep, and methamphetamine prevention. The tour will also visit the Dry Prairie Rural Water construction site and the Dane Valley Saline Seep Project. The afternoon will conclude with a steak supper sponsored by the Roosevelt and Sheridan County Conservation Districts. The research center was created by the Sheridan and Roosevelt County Conservation Districts to educate local farmers and keep them updated on current agricultural research in the area. The USDA-ARS Northern Plains Agricultural Research Laboratory and Montana State University currently conduct research on the site.
ARS' TEAM Leafy Spurge program wins 2004 Secretary's Honor AwardThe Agricultural Research Service's TEAM Leafy Spurge program was named a recipient of a U. S. Department of Agriculture 2004 Secretary's Honor Award for exemplary service and achievement. The Honor Awards are the most prestigious awards given by USDA and the winners represent outstanding service in many fields, including stewardship of natural resources, scientific research, disease control, environmental innovations, educational outreach, emergency response to disasters, food safety, farm and food program delivery, trade and export development and rural economic development. U.S. Secretary of Agriculture Ann Veneman will present the award to TEAM Leafy Spurge Group Leader Dr. Gerald Anderson at a ceremony on Friday, June 25, 2004, in Washington, D.C. The ceremony will be transmitted live via satellite. Other group members included Dr. Lloyd Wendell and Robert Richard, with the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service; Dr. Chad Prosser, formerly with NPARL and currently with the National Park Service in Medora, ND, and Bethany Redlin and Jill Miller, with NPARL.TEAM (The Ecological Area-wide Management of) Leafy Spurge is a 6-year, integrated pest management (IPM) research and demonstration program headquartered at the USDA Agricultural Research Service's Northern Plains Agricultural Research Laboratory (NPARL) in Sidney, Montana. The program was nominated for its development and implementation of a highly effective, biologically based IPM system for managing the noxious weed leafy spurge across wide geographic and political boundaries. The system incorporated biological control agents with other more traditional management tools leading not only to dramatic reductions in leafy spurge infestations, but also to significant reductions in herbicide use, further protecting and enhancing the environment. In accomplishing its goals, TEAM Leafy Spurge developed far-reaching partnerships with numerous federal and state agencies, land-grant universities, local entities and organizations and private landowners. It has been hailed as a model for tackling other noxious weeds by leaders in the field and program participants alike.(Gerald Anderson, 406.433.9416, ganderson[at]sidney.ars.usda.gov)


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Vicki Phillipy, executive director of the chapter, said the evening was not only about the 2008 Quality of Life Design Awards, but also about celebrating the chapter's roots and the membership.
In her opening remarks Ms. Phillipy acknowledged she was "overwhelmed and speechless" at the great turnout. It was the largest attendance the chapter has ever had for the bi-annual Gala. Andy Bowden, the chapter president and chairman of the event recognized the past presidents and Fellows and thanked the sponsors that helped make the evening possible.
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Sprint's mail-in rebates are coming back on July 24
It surely was fun while it lasted. Sprint's rebate-free environment is about to change, and for the worse.
Sprint decided to get rid of mail-in rebates back in March, and replace them with instant rebates. Since then, we've seen it extend the instant rebates' lease of life once last month, but that extension only lasts until July 23. So naturally, the question then became – would Sprint continue to offer instant rebates after that?
Sadly, the answer seems to be no. As you can see from the leaked document below, on July 24 the mail-in rebates are going to be back. Furthermore, Sprint will move away from its previous check-based system to rebates that will come in the form of American Express Prepaid Reward Cards. This is nothing new of course, since we've seen mail-in rebates in the form of debit cards before.
Sprint's cards will have no activation fees, but you may incur a $3 monthly fee if 6 months have passed since you received your card and you still haven't spent the full amount that was on it.
That's it. If you want to get one device or another from Sprint and hate mail-in rebates, you still have eight more rebate-free days to do your shopping. So hurry.
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Homicide in Mangonia Park investigated: three victims positively identified
MANGONIA PARK, Fla. - UPDATE: The three victims have been identified as Carley Chapman, the 19-year-old woman; Martavious Brown, 17; and Se'Sawn Danford, 17. Danford was the victim who was transported to St. Mary's Hospital, where he died.
Security was on high alert at the Hampton Court apartment complex in Mangonia Park on Monday night as the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office investigated a deadly triple shooting.
The gunfire happened earlier in the day.
Randy Chapman says his daughter is among the victims.
"In broad daylight and now my daughter is dead. This is insane," Chapman said.
A third person was found on scene with a gunshot wound but deputies say he later died at the hospital.
Investigators aren't releasing their names.
"Bubbly, she was cheerful. She was 19-years-old," said a woman accompanying Chapman.
PBSO is only saying it's an ongoing investigation and that its "violent crimes division and crime scene unit are on scene."
In a Facebook post the sheriff's office wrote "there is no one in custody" and that "no motive for this crime has been determined."
Chapman lamented, "she got hooked up with the wrong guy and I tried to tell her and I tried to tell her. She was 19-years-old. There was nothing I could do. It's just sad."
Chapman and the family members who surrounded him say they now must wait for answers as to what happened and why.
"A father should not have to bury his own children, man," he said.
The sheriff's office was still on scene Monday night and said detectives are still very busy with the investigation.
Anyone with information should call Crime Stoppers at 1-800-458-TIPS.


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Mossad's David Meidan Appointed New Shalit Negotiator
David Meidan, who heads a department in the intelligence agency, replaces Haggai Hadas.
By Gil Ronen
First Publish: 4/18/2011, 11:17 AM / Last Update: 4/18/2011, 11:24 AM
Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu appointed David Meidan, a senior Mossad man who heads a department in the intelligence agency, as his special emissary for the return of abducted IDF soldier First Sgt. Gilad Shalit.
Meidan will replace Haggai Hadas, who will soon end a two-year stint as emissary in the Shalit matter.
Meidan has served in the Mossad for many years. In his capacity as department head, he has been involved in some activities that are connected to painful problem of Gilad Shalit. The Prime Minister chose Meidan over several other candidates for the job because of the fact that he is already well-versed in the Shalit case and is acquainted with all of the involved elements.
Meidan and Hadas will carry out an orderly transition of authority, and Meidan will accompany Hadas for a learning period before assuming full responsibility for the Shalit file.
Netanyahu and his wife Sarah met with the parents of Gilad Shalit Monday evening. The Prime Minister told them that Israel is carrying out numerous actions, most of which are not publicly known, in order to bring their son home, and that these actions will continue in the future. "It was important to me that no vacuum form in our handling of this matter," he said.


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The New Orleans Saints capitalized on a dominating rushing attack and two early Houston Texans turnovers to take a relatively easy 38-20 victory Saturday night before a soldout crowd at the Superdome.
The Saints ran for 198 yards, held the ball for 38 minutes, 37 seconds and ran 75 offensive plays.
Running back Reggie Bush was sharp early and scored the team's first touchdown on a 9-yard run. He finished the game with 49 yards on seven carries. Quarterback Drew Brees didn't have a great statistical night - 5 of 10 for 36 yards and one rushing touchdown - but he provided one of the game's signature plays when he completed a 10-yard pass to Marques Colston while falling to his right.
Reserve quarterback Chase Daniel was the star the rest of the night. Daniel, locked in a battle with Patrick Ramsey to be Brees' backup, was 15 of 21 for 182 yards with three touchdowns and one interception.
When Daniel replaced Brees in the second quarter the rest of the first-team offense stayed in. That was the plan, Saints Coach Sean Payton said.
"At some point I just wanted to see how he'd do with the first offense," Payton said. "His job is to the move the football and score and to his credit he did that. ...I wanted him to get a lot of snaps and play. There will be a lot of good tape for him."
The victory improved the Saints to 1-1 on the preseason while the loss dropped the Houston Texans to 0-2. The Saints will host the San Diego Chargers on Friday in a nationally televised game. Traditionally, the third preseason game is when the starters will play into the third quarter.
Payton said his team needs to reduce its penalties and cover kicks better.
"The penalties just stick in your gut the wrong way," he said. "...those are the things that tell you have a lot of work to do. ..Every time we kick off or punt your holding your breath."
Garrett Hartley kicked a 35-yard field goal to push the Saints to a 38-20 edge with 4:03 to play. The Saints held the ball for 18 plays on the drive and got to the Texans' 1-yard line before a holding penalty stalled the drive.
Reserve running back P.J. Hill suffered a leg injury as he ran around left end for four yards eight minutes to play in the game. He got up and walked off the field under his own power without an apparent limp.
The Texans struck quickly in the period as Dan Orlovsky hit tight end Garrett Graham for a 10-yard scoring pass on a nice play-action play. The score ended a six-play, 72-yard scoring drive. The Saints now lead 35-20.
Chase Daniel made up for his earlier interception by hitting Adrian Arrington for a 18-yard touchdown to extend the Saints' lead to 35-13 with 1:28 left in the period. The 65-yard scoring drive was set up by some nice power running by reserve running back Chris Ivory and P.J. Hill.
The Texans turned Chase Daniel's interception into a 43-yard field goal by Kris Brown to make the score 28-13 Saints with 5:50 to play in the period.
Chase Daniel just threw a terrible pass that was intercepted by Texans linebacker Danny Clark giving Houston possession at the Saints' 33-yard line. The interception was the Saints' first turnover of the preseason and marred an otherwise excellent performance by Daniel. He was trying to connect with reserve tight end Tory Humphrey.
Dan Orlovsky, a six-year veteran from UConn, replaced Matt Schaub at quarterback for the Houston Texans. He targeted rookie cornerback Patrick Robinson on the team's second possession and was able to get a penalty called on the rookie from Florida State. The drive fizzled as the Saints' front four was able to provide some good pressure on the Texans' quarterback.
Chase Daniel started the period at quarterback for the Saints but didn't have the success he enjoyed in the first half. New Orleans was a quick three-and out.
Saints 28, Texans 10 -- The Saints completely dominated the first half. They outgained Houston 275-138 in total offense, ran a staggering 47 plays to Houston's 17. The run-pass ratio was as good as it gets: 24 runs, 23 passes. The Saints owned a 21:25-8:35 advantage over Houston in time of possession.
Chase Daniel played extremely well when he got his chance. He ran the offense efficiently and led the Saints on two nice scoring drives.
The Saints defense looks much better than it did against New England in the first preseason game. The harping on tackling by defensive coordinator Gregg Williams this week paid dividends.
Reggie Bush and Pierre Thomas ran the ball very well in the first quarter. Bush ran inside the tackles and scored on a run up the middle. Thomas looked like his old solid self and scored on a screen pass from Daniel.
0:00: Chase Daniel is a gamer. He just hit Zak Keasey for a 1-yard TD pass on the final play of the first half to put New Orleans on top 28-10. In three series of work, Daniel was 9 of 13 for 126 yards and two TDs. His efficiency rating stands at 139.7.
3:44: Neil Rackers hits the support bar and boinks in a 52-yard FG. It's 21-10 Saints.
6:34: Does any team in the league run better screen plays than the Saints? And is there a better back in the league at running them than Pierre Thomas? He scored key touchdowns on screens in both the NFC Championship Game and the Super Bowl and he just took another one 31 yards for a TD to put the Saints up 21-7. The play converted a third-and-11. Key blocks by center Jon Goodwin and guard Carl Nicks cleared the path for Thomas down the left sideline.
10:25: Will Smith forced a fumble with a jarring hit on Foster in the backfield and Sedrick Ellis fell on the loose ball at the Saints' 49. It's the first takeaway of the preseason for the Saints defense. And the best news: No up/downs in practice this week.
14:20: That's it for Brees. Chase Daniel takes over at QB for the Saints. Camp sensation Chris Ivory is in the game at tailback. The starting offensive line remains in the game.
14:57: The Texans took advantage of the Hargrove mistake. On the first play of the quarte, Arian Foster plowed through the gut of their defense for a 10-yard touchdown run. It's now 14-7 Saints.
0:00: The Saints dominated the first quarter. They would have held the Texans to two three-and-out drives but a late hit by Anthony Hargrove on a third-down play gave the Texans another first down. They're driving now.
3:15: Drew Brees sneaks it in from the 1 for the TD after making a brilliant falling pass to Colston to convert the third down. It's 14-0 Saints. Brees' sneak was almost identical to the one he executed against the Miami Dolphins last season.
4:41: Trindon Holliday fumbled his first punt return attempt. Not the way the rookie wanted to start his "homecoming" game. Saints safety Pierson Priloeau recovered at the 15. Holliday is trying to make the Texans as a return man but he's considered a long shot to make the roster. His shot just got longer after that mistake. The Saints are knocking on the door.
7:33: The Saints defense holds the Texans to a three-and-out on their first drive. So ar, it's all Saints. And the sellout crowd is loving it.
9:02: Now that's an opening drive. The Saints blast through the Texans defense for a touchdown on their opening drive. Reggie Bush carries the final 9 yards for the TD, blasting straight up the middle behind Carl Nicks for the score. The scoring drive: 11 plays, 72 yards, 5:58 time of possession. It was a ground-heavy drive. Bush and Pierre Thomas combined to gain 54 yards on eight carries in the drive. Most of them came behind Nicks. It's 7-0 Saints.
There is a new video called "Our Time" playing on the big screens as the New Orleans Saints prepare to come onto the field.
The defense was introduced and Tracy Porter and Jonathan Vilma got the biggest ovations.
We'll be updating this blog as the game progresses, so just refresh your page often.
No surprise here, Darren Sharper and Cliff Ingram not playing for the Saints.
Also not dressed are Jon Stinchcomb, Jimmy Graham and Stanley Arnoux.
Not playing for Houston is receiver Andre Davis, receiver Dorin Dickerson, cornerback Antwaun Molden, running back Ben Tate, linebacker Xavier Adibi, center Brett Helms, tight end Owen Daniels and tight end Anthony Hill.


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Robbers hit Cookham store
A man wearing a hooded top was carrying a stick when he and his two friends robbed Country Stores in Cookham last night.
The store in Station Hill was robbed at 9.30pm when the men went in, demanded money and stole cash from the tills.
They are believed to have made off in a silver car driven by a fourth male.
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Live updates
Ian Watkins ex pleads not guilty over indecent images
The ex-lover of jailed paedophile and former Lostprophets singer Ian Watkins has pleaded not guilty to charges relating to indecent images of children.
Joanne Mjadzelics appeared before Cardiff Crown Court and officials confirmed the 38-year-old defendant from Doncaster pleaded not guilty to seven charges.
Six relate to the alleged possession and distribution of indecent images of children. The other relates to an allegation that she encouraged Watkins to send her an indecent image of a child.
Mjadzelics, who was granted bail, will go on trial on January 5 next year. Watkins, 36, is serving a 35-year jail term for a string of sex offences, including the attempted rape of a baby. Two of his female co-defendants, who cannot be named, were given 14 and 16 years custodial terms.
- ITV Report
Lostprophets form new band without paedophile Watkins
Lostprophets have changed their name to No Devotion and replaced Ian Watkins with a new singer.Read the full story ›
Disgraced star applies for permission to appeal jail length
The disgraced rock star and former Lostprophets singer Ian Watkins lodged an application for permission to appeal. Watkins was handed a 35-year sentence for a string of child sex offences, including a custodial term of 29 years and a further six on licence.
Watkins, 36, was sentenced at Cardiff Crown Court last month.
He confessed to 13 offences and was described as a committed and determined paedophile.
His two accomplices, Woman A and Woman B, were jailed for 14 years and 16 years respectively.
Singer Ian Watkins applies to appeal length of sentence
Former Lostprophets singer Ian Watkins, who was given a 35-year sentence for a string of child sex offences, has lodged an application for permission to appeal, the Judicial Office has confirmed.
Watkins at risk from 'inmates looking to make a name'
Singer Ian Watkins could be at risk of attack from fellow inmates inside Wakefield prison, the general secretary of the Prison Officers Association said.
Read: Ian Watkins begins jail term inside 'Monster Mansion'
Stressing the singer will be treated no differently than others, Glyn Travis said:
It is likely he will be at serious risk of self-harming and suicide.
Like any new prisoner convicted of a serious offence and handed a lengthy custodial term, he would present some challenges to ensure his safety.
He will be checked over by doctors and nurses and a plan will be put in place for any issues relating so any drug problems he still may have. But the Prison Service will deal with him like they would anyone else.
Mr Travis said the lead singer's celebrity status could mean he becomes a target by an inmate "looking to make a name for themselves." He said:
Prison staff will be aware of this and assess these risks accordingly.
Ian Watkins begins jail term inside 'Monster Mansion'
Paedophile singer Ian Watkins started his 29-year-custodial jail sentence inside a prison that is home to some of Britain's most notorious sex offenders and killers.
While on remand he was at HMP Parc in Bridgend, but his permanent home will now be HMP Wakefield in Yorkshire, the largest high security prison in western Europe and nicknamed "Monster Mansion."
Other prisoners serving substantial sentences at the facility include notorious paedophiles such as April Jones' killer Mark Bridger and Steven Barker who murdered 17-month old Peter Connelly - also known as Baby P.
The prison was also where serial killer Dr Harold Shipman hanged himself in 2004.
Ian Watkins' family 'hope singer can be rehabilitated'
The family of paedophile Ian Watkins will "not totally cast him aside", the singer's stepdad John Davies said, according to The Daily Mail.
Davies, a Baptist Minister, told the paper that while he could "cheerfully spend an hour knocking [Watkins] around a cell," the family are hoping the convicted child abuser can be rehabilitated.
He said: "The police said he wouldn't think twice about hanging you or anyone else out to dry, why are you bothering, why would you want to stand by him?
"'I said, because he is my stepson. Because it gives me an opportunity to seek some healing in a very broken family.'"
Mr Davies said his "heart ached" for his wife, who he said is seriously unwell after a kidney transplant.
"Ian had a very strong relationship with his mother. It is a very deep bond," he said. "My heart aches for any individual who has been drawn into this and been affected by it. And only time will tell who those victims are."
- ITV Report
Paedophile Ian Watkins gets 35 years for child sex abuse
The front man is facing 29 years in jail and 6 years on license. Police believe there are more victims and will continue their nvestigation.Read the full story ›
International hunt for Watkins' victims to go on
The search for further victims of "determined and depraved" paedophile Ian Watkins will continue, South Wales police said.
Other investigations in the United States and Germany are ongoing, and police in Wales are currently following up on leads from the public. Detective Chief Inspector Peter Doyle, speaking after sentencing said:
"There are also investigations being conducted by other police forces around the world, including Germany and the United States. Above all, this investigation has been focused on the protection of children and my thoughts today remain with those victims."
Obsessed fan committed 'greatest possible betrayal'
The 21-year-old woman who allowed Ian Watkins to abuse her baby committed the "greatest betrayal a mother could", a judge said. Known only as "mother A" to protect the identity of her child, the woman was an obsessed fan almost half Watkins' age when she first met the singer in 2008.
They began a sexual relationship and Watkins filmed their sex sessions when she was just 16. Sentencing her to 14 years in prison, the judge said:
"That you were manipulated by Watkins may be obvious, but you were a mother. A mother naturally loves, protects, shields, nurtures and cherishes.
"Your infant would have trusted you implicitly. You totally betrayed that trust. Could there be a greater betrayal?"
Her barrister dispute Watkins' claim that she was equally responsible, saying she had been corrupted by the rockstar. He said:
"He darkened her world with drugs and even injected her with heroin. She sacrificed her own moral compass so she could sustain a relationship with a man she was obsessed with.
"She was a girl doing her A-levels. He was in the limelight and a rock star. She was vulnerable and exploited."


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DU Scores Final Six Goals To Move Nearer WCHA Final Five
DENVER — Three Pioneers — freshman Paul Stastny, sophomore Gabe Gauthier, and sophomore Ryan Helgason — each tallied two goals and sophomore goaltender Glenn Fisher stopped 12 shots as second-ranked Denver overpowered Michigan Tech for a 7-1 win in the first game of their best-of-3 WCHA playoff series Friday night in Magness Arena.
Helgason got the Pioneers on the board first midway through the first period when he stole the puck in the Husky end and made a pretty move to beat Michigan Tech goaltender Cam Ellsworth. Skating in open ice to Ellsworth's left, Helgason faked a wrister and skated back across the crease and put in a backhanded shot into an empty net for a 1-0 Denver lead.
Michigan Tech evened the score just under five minutes later, when Chris Conner scored his 14th goal of the season off a pretty pass from the left board from Taggart Desmet.
But Denver answered when freshman Ryan Dingle took a pass from Jussi Halme on a MTU power play and wristed a shot from the left circle that beat Ellsworth to his stick side on a shorthanded rush to give Denver a 2-1 advantage entering the third period, a lead Denver would not relinquish.
The rest of the game was all Denver. Gauthier scored both his goals in the second period and Stastny recorded two in the third as the Pioneers limited Michigan Tech to just five shots — including just one in the third period — over the final 40 minutes. Denver held a 35-12 shots advantage in the game, a season-low for Michigan Tech.
"We had a very strong night tonight," head coach George Gwozdecky said. "We were a little anxious at the beginning but settled down really well and had a strong night on the penalty kill."
The Pioneers held Michigan Tech's nationally-ranked power play to an 0-for-5 performance Friday night. Meanwhile, despite its huge offensive output, the Pioneers were 0-for-7 on the power play.
Denver will go for the sweep in the second game of the best-of-3 series Saturday night at 7:07 in Magness Arena.
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    Developing outstanding human resources that will be leaders in nation building in developing countries is an important factor to ensure the success of medium- to long-term development efforts by developing countries themselves. Moreover, to respond to the advances of globalization, developing and developed countries need to work together to establish cooperative relations that enable prompt access to and sharing of necessary information and support.
    Human resources development cooperation using Japan's ODA is implemented throughout the world, covering a wide range of fields necessary for the national infrastructure of recipient countries including agriculture, forestry and fisheries, health care, education, vocational training, administration, and environmental conservation.
A leading Thai university grows with Japan's ODA
    In 1961 Japan established the Nondhaburi Telecommunications Training Center to develop technicians in the field of telecommunications, which was a primitive industry in Thailand at the time. The center was the first overseas training institution that was set up with Japan's ODA. This is the first step in Japan's cooperation for King Mongkut's Institute of Technology, Ladkarabang (KMITL).
    Today, with six departments in the field of engineering as well as the graduate schools and the information center, the KMITL is a highly respected university in the field in Thailand.
    The research activities and their achievements in three departments, telecommunication, electronics and computer science, in particular, are leading the country's academic work. These three departments have been developed with support from Japan. In recent years, they are home to Japan's Third Country Training Programs for countries in Southeast Asia, such as Laos.
Note: The Third Country Training Programs are held in selected host countries (in this case, Thailand), which recruits participants from both the host country and neighboring countries to receive training in the host country's institutions.
A success story transcending the boundaries of the African continent
    The government of Kenya had a grand plan to establish a new institution for developing local experts in the fields of agriculture and technology. In 1977, at the request of the Kenyan government, Japan started technical cooperation for vocational training programs in these fields, while donating grant aid for building school facilities and providing the necessary equipment for academic work at the school. About 15 years after such cooperation started, the institution has become the fifth national university in Kenya, Jomo Kenyatta University of Agriculture and Technology.
    In 2002, a new project started to transfer the university's successful achievements all over Africa in the framework of the African Institute for Capacity Development (AICAD). Japan supported the AICAD facilities situated in Jomo Kenyatta University.
Note: AICAD is an autonomous institute committed to identifying problems of poverty and working to reduce poverty in Africa through capacity development. It is a joint venture between the three countries of East Africa: Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania, with the support of the government of Japan.
Environmental issues tackled with Japan's experience
    Japan started technical cooperation at the Japan-China Friendship Environmental Protection Center in Beijing in 1992, having worked with China to build the center since 1990. In the course of the cooperation activities, basic knowledge and technical know-how concerning research, training and monitoring on environmental issues were transferred to Chinese experts.
    The center moved on to standardizing environmental monitoring techniques, establishing a pollution protection technology suitable to the Chinese situation, and developing human resources in the field of environmental education.
    With these technical transfers, the center was expected to play a pivotal role in tackling various issues in the field.
A former agriculture expert praised at the state funeral
    Keiji Nishioka was dispatched as an agriculture expert to Bhutan in 1964, introducing rice culture techniques from Japan that were new to the country and working with local counterparts and farmers. He continued to stay in Bhutan after his two-year assignment period was over, and worked in the country for 28 years.
    In 1980, in honor of his dedication to development in Bhutan's agriculture, Nishioka received "Dasho," an honorable title from His Majesty the King of Bhutan. When he died there in 1992, a state funeral for "Dasho" Nishioka was held with the participation of many Bhutanese.
The safe motherhood initiatives taken further
    The Maternal and Child Health Improvement Project started in 1996 in the State of Cear located in Northeast Brazil. The project aimed to initiate the development of Safe Motherhood initiatives, newly introducing maternity nurses as part of the medical profession in Brazil and promoting natural childbirth with less medical support.
Utilizing successful human resource development activities, heartwarming care is provided for expectant mothers, and more women are expected to undergo natural childbirth rather than caesarean sections.
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After the provisional government was established in Afghanistan in December 2001, the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF) introduced a back-to-school campaign that aimed to send about 1.5 million children back to classrooms by March 23, 2002, the first day of the new school term.
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Japan donated US$12 million, including governmental aid and the amount collected through the Japan UNICEF Association's fund drive, out of US$19 million as a total amount for the campaign.
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I was very excited to see this film, what can I say, I am a sucker for horror films and Rob Zombie rocks at making them. It is a very ambitious film and I can also say that it is director's most accomplished film as well. The film is not as scary as his previous movies, however the film still has some crazy good imagery and climatic moments, I was quite scared during the film. Zombie's films are not for everyone, but I definitely enjoy his work and I am never ever bored during his films. The film is very weird but if you like Zombie's films I recommend seeing this one, it's freaking crazy!
Chika whaaaat?!?! This movie was totes awesome! I LOVE "The Walking Dead" and have been into zombies since time immemorial. But this movie really dares to go where few other movies have the guts to venture. It shows how the witches of Salem survived their persecution (they were no angels, mind you) and how they travel into the present where they are able to wreak havoc through unsuspecting souls in the modern day. I was totally riveted the whole time and have got to check out the director's other films. A lot of people have told me that he is the visionary of visionaries when it comes to horror films about zombies and witches. The actress who plays the lead is his wife and she is VERY believable in the role. IN fact, at times, i completely forgot she was acting...she seemed totally possessed! If you like movies about the supernatural with a gory twist, this is the one for you!
I won't bother to mention that this film is made exclusively for fans of the horror genre, so let me get to the point: this is a gruesome, creepy, and cheesy attempt to retell the story of the Witches of Salem, and it often succeeds when you least expect it to.
The story begins in 1692 when a group of witches are clearly committing heinous black magic in the Salem woods. Their bodies are burnt, but their spirits survive into the modern day when they lay their sights upon an unsuspecting young woman named Heidi.
The witches show up not as ghouls, but as musical notes played on an old LP. Whenever Heidi hears the music, she loses her grip on reality, and the witches gain theirs.
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hello friends,
few of my friends got job in SAP SD, FICO module. the salary is really great. my question is comparing to other platforms ex JAVA, networking, programmer etc SAP ppl seems to make more money. is that cause
1. extensive travel involvement?
2 not enough supply in the market?
or something else?
i am confused.
No, it is much simpler than that. You are probably aware of the discrimination that is going on in the workplace, i.e. better-looking people get better salaries. All us SAP consultants are downright stunning. Hrithik Roshan and Shilpa Shetty pale alongside us, and that is the simple explanation for the higher salaries.
It could also be because all universities churn out Java-programmers, but you won't (as far as I know) find a single ABAP-programmer or SAP functional consultant coming straight from the university. So as you indicate, it is probably an issue of supply and demand. SAP is doing well, so SAP consultants are in high demand, whether it be technical consultants or functional consultants. I haven't heard of any employers offering higher salaries due to extensive travelling. Usually it is not difficult to find people who won't mind seeing other parts the world (for a few years) at the expense of others.
To reduce the salary pressure some companies, IBM among others, set up their own education programmes. Time will show whether that will be a successful strategy or not.
As with any profession, if you are on top of your game, you will be rewarded. Alot of hard work and lots of hours go into thisw, and very few people start off with lots of money!
The common misconception is that if you work in SAP you will get lots of money! You have to work very ahrd for it, and it will not just fall in your lap. Many people have to work many years before they can command the salaries they get, otherwise, they go freelance, and the work is not always there.
Don;t get into SAP thinking you will make your fortune, it doesn;t work that way. Do it because you love it.
Let's not forget that you cannot compare apples with oranges:
A FICO person is usually a business analyst with skills of an accountant.
When you are talking about Java you are talking about a programmer or a software developer.
This has nothing to do with SAP, it applies to any organisation. As Barry said, through hard work and becoming good at what you do can you move from bookeeper to accountant to financial business analyst; or from dispatch clerk to logistics consultant.
> [...] through hard work and
> becoming good at what you do can you move from
> bookeeper to accountant to financial business
> analyst; or from dispatch clerk to logistics
> consultant.
Not to mention; from Java developer to ABAP developer and ultimately to SAP Business Workflow developer - the best of the best of the best as they say in Men In Black
For those who don't know: both Mike and I are familiar with the SAP Business Workflow environment.
It's not that ABAP coding is more difficult than Java coding. I haven't done any Java development, but I would think the usual rule about difference between languages being mostly a syntax issue applies. However, there are some differences between your average Java programmer and your average ABAP developer it seems.
One difference was once described as "the Java programmers look for ways to break the system security, while the ABAP programmers look for ways to make the system safer". A bit of a hacker culture among many Java developers, that is.
ABAP developers usually quite quickly come across performance issues. It is not related to the programming language, it is related to the environment we work in - large enterprise systems where database size growth sometimes is counted in tens of gigabytes per month.
The SAP systems are also huge and complex in a different manner. If you are developing a solution one should (well, at least I agree with this) try to find existing function modules, data elements etc that can be used. This can take a large percentage of your time when you work in SAP. An experienced SAP developer should know her/his way around the system, and thus can be much more productive than a beginner.
Experience always makes you worth more (makes you more effective). I suppose the potential is not exhausted as quickly in SAP as in other development environments, but I don't really see why a fresh developer should make more money developing in ABAP than in Java.
Reason is, simple stock market concept.... Demand and Supply game
> Hi
> Reason is, simple stock market concept.... Demand and
> Supply game
> regards,
> Vinodh.
But if you saturate the market with any product, the price goes down...
IMHO, we as ABAP Developers earn more money simply because large companies use SAP...In a big company you got the most critical processes and environments, so you need to pay a lot to got the best developers and get the best applications running -:)
Five years ago, when I was a SAP freshman...I earn X dollars...Now, being a Senior Developer I earn 9X dollars...Comparing to some of my friends that works either on Java, Oracle or Power Builder...
ABAP is not that hard to learn...But being good is hard...You have to learn some of the basics of every SAP module...learn tons of table names, FM's, BAPI's and so on...
Of course...at least in Perú...a new army of ABAP developers are being released to the market every 6 months or less...But being junior developers they got that much...When the become Senior...You can become an Architech and earn even more -:)
Also, it can depend on the way you sell yourself...Here on Perú, I'm very well known and beign a Freelance Consultant gives me the opportunity to not only work on a lot of companies but also on a lot of Consultant companies, so that's why I'm able to reject some offers, and ask more money for certain projects...
It depends of course on the Market, the country, the company and some other factors...Still, be earn big money, which makes happy enough to not question my paycheck -;)
best ans...thanx for your time
Anytime mate -;)
It is knowing that SAP environment that causes the uplift in fees that can be commanded. I know most major modules to some extent, but where I add value, is that I know how SAP generally "works" - so that when a question comes up in GRC, (to take a recent exampe), in which I've no experience, I'm able to figure out what's going on. Which is why when my clients have some new technology or SAP aspect to deal with, they often place it on my desk with a note to "figure it out".
But mainly I think it's because I'm so good-looking.
> hello friends,
> few of my friends got job in SAP SD, FICO module. the
> salary is really great. my question is comparing to
> other platforms ex JAVA, networking, programmer etc
> SAP ppl seems to make more money. is that cause
> 1. extensive travel involvement?
> 2 not enough supply in the market?
> or something else?
> i am confused.
It's because SAP stands for Salary Advance Program !
hahaha..that must be the reason..
> It's because SAP stands for Salary Advance Program !
That's a new one! I used to collect these abbreviations, but I can't find my list now, so I just remember a few;
Stop All Production (offshore (oil) workers)
Submit And Pray (programmers)
Suffering And Pain (don't know)
Suffer And Pay (don't know, but probably someone who paid the license fees
Sod All Profiles !
Nice Kjetil -:D You have made me laugh -;) You should have send those to the Dagfinn contest....Did you remember this one???
SAP --> Shai Agassi Products.
You have to work hard and sell you to better offerers
coz simply sky is the limit for SAP..
not always
See what you like... I was in your position two years ago and I think I had choose the best option for me and my future plans, Now Im in SAP.
It is very interesting question and observation.
Yes SAP Consultants are paid relatively more compare to other IT Jobs most of the times.
There are few factors contributing to higher pay checks.
1. Functional consultants don't evolve out of college , they have lot of doman expertise like Finance, Manufacturing, Sales and Distribution , Logistics etc., so before they learn the respective modules they are usually knowledgeble and have some experience but wanted to tune them better. Experience + SAP training + SAP experience ( more experience more work and smart move = more money)
2. SAP Projects are usually short term in nature so people are expected to move alot from one place to other. so always makes you stand on toes for understanding new businesses, new people , work culture and adapt it as quickly as possible and deliver.
For eg : Super smart Surgeon charges huge money for the surgery of 1 Hour vs a Medical practictioner from the hospital from the same 1 Hour though both are Doctors because better skill and perform in short period of time.
So Short term + Travel + Additional Stress of Delivery + Variety Skill = Additional money.
3. There may be between the assignment times where you don't get project closest to your base location , at certain points of time at times demand and Supply also contributes more SAP Fico consultants available in NY-NJ-CT-PA areas automatically chances become weak and rates can't be higher.
So need to cover slack time into consideration and also demand supply factors.
4. Ofcourse last one I can think of.. is a Brand You carry with you. SAP implementations are usually for large companies with bigger pockets . Like you have BMW SUV and Hyundai SUV both can function and looks wize similarities but people have choices to make.
So SAP is a big brand and it carries big numbers.
Good Luck if you want to get into SAP Space but Please remember for every effort there is Price and If things were so easy to get more money in SAP , half of the IT people would be in SAP only.. So... I'm Sure there are some other reasons as well, which I couldn't recall at this point.
Chakra Adari
Principal Consultant.
My salary is good but not great.
What is good and Great are just relative terms, but in general it plays around Demand and Supply. If you are in niche areas unless you have other parameters like location preferences etc., usually numbers will be very intersting.
I wish you get your great salary soon.
Chakra Adari
Ok, I want to be more specific:
At the age of 25 I was inhouse team member. At the age of 26 I was SAP CRM consultant. The salary increas was significant. I think I got my peak salary between the age of 27-29 but with low increases from 27 to 28 or 29 but I think you could consider it great for that age.
With 31 I went to freelancing. Another significant increase in income. You could call it great for the working hours put in.
With the age 35 I went back to permanent employment at a smaller company and I am still earning less than with the age of 26-29 or even 31-35 with also limited increases which is a little bit frustrating.
Therefore my comment: at the moment I regard my salary as good but not great as the company is small, SAP CRM is no longer that hot and maybe the market is under pressure because of nearshore and offshore.
Maybe I will change my situation in the future, let's see. As an overall judgement I would say SAP consultancy is not a bad area, especially for technical and non-management roles (I think managers get more in all indistries).
In some areas engineers - which would have been an alternative career for me - in Germany (the home of engineers) complain about not so good working conditions and salaries and we are still better than them, I guess. I have also met a number of pysicists and other scientists - some with doctorate - which were also happy to be able to work in the field of SAP (again another possible career for me). In journalism and humanities like political science or chinese studies - which I also considered - income might be less but eventually the work sometimes more interesting (not so much boring ABAP code).
So except compared with doctors and investment bankers we should be pretty fine.
Hi Thomas,
Hope you are doing fine.
I follow your posts. They are good and specific to the requirement.Here I would like to put a new question before you. Being a pioneer in the subject and keen observer of the market (Specificly SAP CRM), I think you are the right person to answer this question.
I have been working as SAP CRM Functional Consultant for the last 3.6 years. Now i would like to know the future of SAP CRM (atleast in the next 10 years). Being an experienced person what would you suggst to your young follower in this stream.Can I continue in CRM by learning even deeply OR would you like me to learn any Emerging Technology related to SAP CRM (if Yes what Technology).
Hope I have not troubled you**.
Thanks & Regards
Hello Ravi,
Thanks a lot, that you like my posts.
Concerning future of functional consultants I would say, that WebUI is already quite old, C4C very interesting but it seems that there is not that much work for configuration. But SAP S/4 HANA looks very intersting. I already told my boss that we should have a domo-system and if possible projects as soon as possible.
At least that is my oppinion.
Best regards,
Hi Thomas,
Thank you for you immediate reply.
Your vision is impressive. What could be the next decision of clients who using SAP CRM. Do you think they can move to some other solution?.
I would like know you review over C4C as well, in both client and consultant perspective.
Thanks & Regards
Hello Ravi,
I don't know much about non SAP solutions and I hope that not many clients move towards them. A move to SAP S/4 HANA would make sense if customers have UX, performance or middleware problems and have not invested that heaviliy in customer coding for WebUI.
With C4C some customers are concerned that the data is soemwhere on a server of SAP SE in Germany. Here SAP also reduced the implementation effort resulting in less work for consultants. My company is using this system productively for our small sales department without big problems for quite a while now.
If I would be a client I would have a close look at SAP S/4 HANA. But I still have limited information about it like e.g. stability at the moment and liscense fees (HANA was supposed to be too expensive for many clients).
Best regards,
I have 7 years experience in environmental field. I'm thinking of moving into SAP. Presently getting trained in SAP SD since there are very less positions in SAP EHS. Do you think SAP EHS is a good field to get into or SAP SD is better in terms of opportunities. I'm equally interested in both. You advice will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Hi Ravi,
I agree that SAP EHS has relatively lesser market at this point but if you closely observe entire world is crying loud about Environmental issues, so regulations will become more n more strongers so the need for compliances and all tools for it..
My vision on EHS is, it will be very good area in long run.
Good luck with your choice.
Chakra Adari
There is the whole space called Carrer Center on SCN, no need to resurrect a 7 year old post in Coffee Corner.
i thought pay but not necessarily career was discussed here. coffee corner is where those discussion, esp complaining take place, don't they?
otoh, this topic will never die.
Complaining about pay is certainly more coffee corner material.
Asking for good advice here is a different topic (however I did solve my mongoose problem here..!) and carries some unmoderated risks with it.
btw: quality of life and being happy also counts, so if you want to meet nice girls then don't choose basis or security!
Hi Julius,
I disagree! My #workhusband is the Basis team lead, and although we met long before we were working with SAP, I think I still count as a 'nice girl'.
But thank goodness nobody trolls on SCN for that type of stuff. Phew!
"workhusband?" Is that somehow different from "husband?"
oh yeah
take a stereotypical long-term marriage and remove all intimacy from it....you know the person uber well, trust them, rely on them, banter with them and nag constantly til they say "you sound just like my wife"', etc
yep I'm a workwife lol
well said, Anything routine and long time tends to get bored either SAP or Marriage, need to see what can be changed or spice up or what you can loosen little or more. What you can over look
or what you know can't change over years and live with that..
Option of go away is there.. but what is the guarantee is next one is any better.. , even next option gets bored in sometime
If we see bigger picture on these things .. and try to ignore lot of smaller things.., we can be lot more happier and have lesser complaints.
Well, I've known my #workhusband much longer, and he sees much more of me, and he also helps with technical stuff (whether it's an upgrade, or a TV, or buying a computer). I don't have to cook for him or anything else. So yeah, I guess that's different! . But then again, I've never met Julius IRL.
Just goes to show, we should choose our coworkers more carefully than our spouses!
With both of them we have no choice but spending longer hours, co workers is even more important than spouse as we can't run away giving some excuses... and changing them is not in our hands lol
So you mean that he has to work on all these dreaded household maintenance and gadget assembly tasks, and does not get anything to eat either nor anything else?
That sounds pretty tough for the guy...
I bet he may ask her about workflows. Is that not enough?
That is totally enough (asking me about workflow).
AND he doesn't have to buy me birthday presents either.
He does NOT actually 'work' on those dreaded household maintenance things - he gets to advise me - and if you show me a man who does not like that, then I'll fall over in a faint.
Susan Keohan wrote:
- he gets to advise me -
Another variant of that, is that if you ask him for his advise then he decides else you would not have asked... ;-)
Aren't I a nice person Julius?
Hmm... now I have gotten myself into trouble...
There might be some exceptions, I have just not met them in person yet.
That was close, Julius. ^^
Gregory Misiorek wrote:
i thought pay but not necessarily career was discussed here. coffee corner is where those discussion, esp complaining take place, don't they?
Yes, the pay was the original discussion, but I was replying to ravi's post that was not even on the same subject and along the lines of what's usually posted in "other CC".
Well, anyway, glad it got Julius a chance to get some thoughts out.
lmao. There's nothing better than these quality discussions in the coffee corner :>
Even the ones resurrected from the distant past.....
Hello There,
You are not confused, whatever you guessing all are contributing to certain extent to get better paid in SAP.
All SAP Module consulants don't get paid same, more because of Demand and Supply not about how difficult or simple.
Shorter duration more bucks as you need to cover other aspects like more frequent travels, stays etc and all Idle time also taken to consideration between assignments.
If you are in Niche areas and Your client has bigger pockets then that is the best combination to demand more salary.
Projects of longer durations in the areas of BASIS, Portals are usually lesser billed because of the duration.
I have been closely working with Consulting industry for the past 16 years at various roles, have fair idea for sure.
Chakra Adari
Chakra Adari
This question was posted in 2007. Now things are changed. Nowadays many people who are doing job in SAP are getting nothing. In my company people are working as SAP consultant and in return they get peanuts.
there exists even smart bosses who know that SCN is around and they may have found their employees forwarding the questions to SCN.
I hope they are related to the pachyderm family...
peanuts .. seriously ?
So you (your organization) are saying - now SAP is not much tough to learn or its not much tough to get a job on SAP field .
Have you (your organization) looked into our career center forum ?
Peanuts = next to nothing
He stated the opposite of what you understood, that the financial outcome of working in the SAP field is not so great at the moment.
I think I have understood it correctly. I knew that he meant peanuts as compare to nothing.
I have just said him to see the value of a SAP job. Financial outcome is coming with the value of jobs. (think dipper )
Well, if you have a SAP job and it doesn't pay enough to get you through the month, I'd say there isn't much value. ^^
"if you have a SAP job and it doesn't pay enough to get you through the month"
It doesn't mean SAP jobs hasn't much value. It does mean your organization doesn't want to give value for SAP jobs.
Its depend on organization. You wont believe my organization is treating us (SAP team) as a computer data operator. Now think what will be the package structure of a computer data operator.
So here, its a problem of my organization, I will never say that I get peanuts from SAP jobs.
There are some changes in the past 7-10 years again it is all about demand and supply. Try some niche areas like OpenText integration with SAP just as example... I know few guys are offered too heavy numbers even now.
If you want to make more money, need to be lil more creative in what you are doing and make plans to change within your of SAP or away.
Btw Peanuts are really healthy as long as you are not allergic to it
Good luck with making more money.. keep eyes open on emerging technologies.. it helps to make more for sure.
Chakra Adari
now seriously...I agree with you, is the good and the bad side of the offer demand model, keep your knowledge in a heavily closed chest and hope it will solve your working life is a huge mistake you need to move forward, specialize (or keep specializing) on an area or bet into new areas, IMHO days of gold where only have the word SAP in your CV means you will get paid a lot had over, and I'm quite happy about that.
Thank you Chakra Adari,
My organization does not provide good salary packages because my company is getting people who can work for free.
See my point is nowadays; n number of people do SAP courses with the mind set that they will get good job and handsome salary. But the moment their course finishes they realize that to get into SAP is like getting break in a Hollywood.
Nowadays demand is less and supply is more.
On the there side, I cannot ignore the fact that there are many people who get a very handsome figure. Reason is their experience. Once your experience increases your value increases.
I am in the initial phase of my career that is why I am working for peanuts. And I accept that peanuts are good for health but yes I am allergic of peanuts .
You are making yourself the ground for the existence of such cutthroats.
Like you accepted to work for nothing, others do to.
Moaning will not help to get out of this circle.
This is also often caused by over-investment. Company ends up with too many people and overhead costs, so must go for bigger projects at lower rates with as many people as possible standing around and bothering each other.
This buck is then passed on to the employees, half of which don't actually need any real skills so your salary rate is competitive with dubawalahs and rickshaw drivers.
The only way to combat that is having a few medium term contracts to cover risk and then specializing and refusing to work for "price dumping" rates, and when asked to fix a mess created by price-dumpers then it costs double.
Hi Sandeep,
In a way , I mentioned same in my first response. I really wish you get Cashew nuts and more. World is very competitive and SAP World is no exception.
I have been into consulting for over 15 years, at times consultants in some other modules and lesser experienced gets paid more than me, it is all just matter of demand, how smart you negotiate the numbers etc.,
As you have mentioned you at initial stages, so keep yourself toned well , just remember even you get 10 times more than what you are getting , still there will be some dissatisfaction so.. take a chill pill
and keep watching what can get you better and hit it harder.. I'm sure you can make it.
Good luck.
Chakra Adari
Creator of this discussion hopefully with sap. after 7 yrs.
Can't say about SAP. But (s)he has left SCN since 2009.
Last Logged In: May 20, 2009 6:14 PM
ohh.. Dev Patra.... (dibyendu).. cant recognize at first glance.
Or the "pay so much" came in so fast that the guru is now following this thread from his / her own island in the sun somewhere and does not need to participate in it anymore?
I wish he did that.. I'm very optimistic if he got that fortune, even we all will get some if not that much..
so Julius pick your island and get ready to retire sooner ..
When I got my first SAP consulting job, about sixteen years ago, my new employer asked me in the interviews what salary I wanted. I had no idea what to ask for, and I didn't want to seem greedy, so I asked for the same salary I had been making at my immediate prior job as a network administrator (and newly minted Basis administrator). Really, I would have been happy to make a lateral move at the time. Imagine my surprise and joy when the offer of employment came in for about $10K more than I had asked for! They knew I had asked for too little, and they knew I would soon figure that out, so they didn't screw me over.
Time went on, and I was very happy. Then one day, while attending meetings at a branch office in San Francisco, I was having breakfast in the hotel with other consultants from the same company, all gathered from across the country for these meetings. Over breakfast, one of the others was griping about how little money he made, how unhappy he was, how the company was screwing us all over, and I kept quiet, because I really felt I was getting a good deal and I was enjoying my work. Then this fellow let slip "I mean, I know we're all making six figures here, but..." I hoped my shock didn't show too much. I was making a lot less than "six figures." So this guy was making more money than I could even imagine, significantly more than I was, and he was griping about how underpaid he was.
Suddenly, I no longer felt like I had such a good deal, and then I realized how insidious these things can become.
Not too long after this incident, I had my first annual review over beers at the Denver airport, between connecting flights. My boss pushed across a scrap of paper (it might have been a table napkin, I'm not sure now) with a handwritten number on it and asked me if I was good with it. It was a dollar figure, still not six figures, but a huge increase over what I had been making that first year, much more than a "standard" raise. I said "Thank you, yes, I'm very happy," and I meant it, and that was the extent of my review. And it was true. I really enjoyed my time with that company, for as long as it lasted, and I did feel that I got a fair shake from them. I had just missed the wave of huge amounts of money for SAP consultants, but that was a matter of timing, and not long after that the whole high-tech sector imploded and I landed making less money again. I've had raises since, but I've never again seen raises in the double-digit percentage points like I did through the late 90s. I also know that of all the consultants we've hired in the intervening years (I am no longer a consultant, I'm a customer now), none of them have had a billing rate as high as mine had been before that, and yet still my current employer has at times grumbled about how expensive they are. If they only knew.
Hi Matt,
Thanks for sharing your story. Again it is all about demand, supply, knowing about what is going on around and how good you can fairly negotiate .
I remember few consultants who were making huge numbers and at times VP Level from Client used to interact with them very closely. Those Consultant model was real charm for SAP folks.
Now they are lot of supply and clients have become much smarter and have better awareness of how to fish around for much lower prices so they started slash down numbers significantly.
At one point of time I have suggested one person who was doing ColdFusion, to take up SAP Basis got trained and he is really making lot bigger bugs now than otherwise he would be some QA or Some Java progrommer.
Anyways at times we should be lucky to be at Right Place, Right Time doing Right Thing. I feel I missed some great opportunities as well but what to do we all make mistakes ..
Chakra Adari
It's good to hear that your friend 'got trained' and is 'making a lot bigger bugs now'. That made my day
High Mobility - High Pay
High Presssure - More Pay
S NM wrote:
High Mobility - High Pay
High Presssure - More Pay
Or sooner dead.
Functional people have more salaries comparatively to technical guys because functional people comes from domain experience wherein they should should have knowledge on both the sides, viz.. domain and technical. Functional role is quite related to business analyst role.
SAP is the best ERP today WORLD have. SAP is the world's largest business software company and the third-largest independent software provider in terms of revenues. So All my friends we should be proud to be part of SAP and of course when we are the best technology players and best solution provider so, we should also get paid accordingly.Mean pay us best.
In later 2000, salaries are high due to demand. It has changed now.
Few people only getting good salary packages.
Now, supply is high.


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