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How does one show that the prime spectrum of a domain is irreducible in the Zariski topology?
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A topological space is irreducible if and only if it is not empty and any two nonempty open subsets have nontrivial intersection. Equivalently, if and only if the space is not empty, and cannot be written as a union of two proper closed subsets.
(To see the equivalence: suppose any two nonempty open subsets have nontrival intersection, and let $C_1$ and $C_2$ be closed subsets such that $C_1\cup C_2 = X$. Let $O_1=X-C_1$, $O_2=X-C_2$; since $O_1\cap O_2 = (X-C_1)\cap(X-C_2) = X-(C_1\cup C_2) = \emptyset$, either $O_1$ is empty or $O_2$ is empty, hence either $C_1 =X$ or $C_2=X$. Conversely, suppose that $X$ is not the union of two proper closed subsets, and let $O_1$ and $O_2$ be nonempty open sets. Then $C_1=X-O_1$ and $C_2=X-O_2$ are proper closed subsets, so $\emptyset\neq X-(C_1\cup C_2) = (X-C_1)\cap(X-C_2) = O_1\cap O_2$.)
For a ring $R$, $\mathrm{Spec}(R)$ as a set consists of all prime ideals of $R$, and the closed sets are the sets of the form $V(E)$, where $E\subseteq R$ is a subset, and $V(E) = \{\mathfrak{p}\in\mathrm{Spec}(R) \mid E\subseteq \mathfrak{p}\}$.
So, suppose $R$ is a domain. Is $\mathrm{Spec}(R)$ empty? Hint: Remember that if $S$ is a commutative ring with identity, then $\mathfrak{I}$ is a prime ideal if and only if $S/\mathfrak{I}$ is an integral domain.
Now suppose that $E$ and $F$ are subsets of $R$ such that $\mathrm{Spec}(R) = V(E) \cup V(F)$. That means: every prime ideal of $R$ contains either $E$ or $F$ (or both).
In particular, there is a very special prime ideal that must contain either $E$ or $F$, which tells you that $E$ or $F$ is actually equal to
For an encore, try Exercise I.19 of Atiyah-MacDonald, which says that in general, $\mathrm{Spec}(A)$ is irreducible if and only if the nilradical of $A$ is a prime ideal (and notice that your proposition is just one implication of a special case of this).
A basic fact about the topological space $\operatorname{Spec} R$ is that the irreducible components of $\operatorname{Spec} R$ correspond naturally to the minimal prime ideals of $R$. For a proof of that see Section 13.4 of my commutative algebra notes. (I don't know why I haven't stated this in the form "Theorem: ..." It just appears in the text. I'll fix that eventually...)
If you admit this fact, then your question becomes "What are the minimal primes in a domain?" which is very easy to answer.
It can be shown that $Spec(R)$ is irreducible iff nilradical of $R$ is a prime ideal. Using this and the fact that nilradical of a domain is just $0$ which is prime shows that prime spectrum of domain is irreducible.

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Mayor Dana Williams acknowledges he is "certainly concerned" with the prospects of a boycott of Utah by gays and their allies, saying Park City could suffer even though the city had little to do with the gay-marriage ballot measure in California.
Park City has a tradition of acceptance of gays, he says, but the city could be swept up in a movement by gays against Utah based on Proposition 8. Williams says gays are welcome in Park City.
California voters passed the ballot measure on Election Day, and the gay-rights supporters claim The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints used its influence to help pass Proposition 8. The opponents of the ballot measure quickly mobilized against Utah.
The chatter about a boycott of Utah, which has fomented on the Internet since the Election Day, comes as people in Park City are already worried that the stumbling economy could dash the usually lucrative ski season. The number of gays who visit Park City and the amount of money they spend locally is difficult to determine.
The mayor says he is unsure what the effects would be in Park City if a boycott takes hold. He says it would be difficult to determine whether a boycott or the economy is responsible if Park City's ski season is down.
"It's too bad that we could potentially take the brunt of an issue we didn't participate in," Williams says, adding he is worried about the effects on the ski season and the Sundance Film Festival.
There has been little public talk about Proposition 8 in the Park City area, and there have not been demonstrations locally like there have been in Salt Lake City and elsewhere. The recent Salt Lake City demonstration did not appear to draw significant numbers of Parkites.
But there are people on the Internet who are mentioning Park City, being a Utah destination, as a potential boycott target, including during Sundance in January. The film festival attracts large crowds of people from California, and there typically is a significant gay presence in Park City during Sundance.
Sundance is usually a key money-making period for the lodging industry, restaurants, nightclubs and other businesses that cater to visitors. Park City is packed during the festival, with the crowds heading to screenings, partying and gawking at celebrities. Demonstrations are common during the festival, with anti-war marches having been held and animal-rights groups often seen promoting their cause.
A festival official recently told The Park Record Sundance has received phone calls and emails from people wanting the festival to abandon the Holiday Village screening rooms. The people tie Cinemark Theaters to the ballot measure. Sundance plans to continue showing films at Holiday Village.
The Mormon influence in Park City through the city's history has been limited compared to the role the church has played in other Utah communities. Silver miners founded Park City instead of Mormon pioneers, and the city in its early days attracted an international population to work in the silver mines. The city in recent decades has drawn large numbers of people moving from California, New York and elsewhere in the country.
"Park City has a very long track record of welcoming the world. That has never been based on race, creed, color or sexual preference," Williams says.
Meanwhile, Ken Woolstenhulme, the chairman of the Summit County Commission, says it is unclear what effect a boycott might have. He says people planning to boycott are mistaken.
"I don't understand what they hope to gain by it," Woolstenhulme says. "I don't think it's going to change anybody's mind."


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There is at least one principal in DISD who appears to be jeopardizing the learning of students.
For next year, the principal has reassigned a veteran teacher from one content area to a new, completely unfamiliar and highly specialized content area. Teachers at the school suspect the principal, after years of criticizing the veteran, is trying to force the veteran to quit.
With non-renewal letters spewing out of 3700 like volcanic gas and ash, such a cowardly act hardly seems necessary, unless the principal didn't do the necessary documentation or follow the required process. Could that be the case?
But here's the worst part: What if the teacher doesn't quit? What if the teacher calls the principal's bluff and accepts the new position? How many students will potentially lose an entire and important year of learning because the principal plays personnel games?
Parents at the school should be outraged.
We have a system of due process in DISD and it must be followed to assure parents and taxpayers that schools operate with the children's best interests in mind rather than becoming small fiefdoms for principals. In fact, the poor quality of instruction at schools that are or have been run as personal fiefdoms are a top reason middle-class parents leave DISD.
Principals or Executive Directors or Superintendents do not legally have the option of using taxpayer funds to punish people they don't like or to reward their friends and relatives with plum job assignments. Such behavior undermines the noble premise upon which public education is founded.
Principals dislike the due process required because it opens them up to scrutiny and conflict, but due process is important. And if the due process doesn't determine that the teacher is weak or ineffective, then maybe the problem isn't the teacher but the campus leadership.
Reassigning teachers in a manner which places the education of children at risk must stop. Principals who use this short-cut must be rooted out and booted out. Their due process can start with a growth plan.


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A lot of organizations talk about the importance of attracting and retaining critical talent, especially since accessing such talent is expected to become more challenging in the coming years.
But many companies are still grappling with just how best to tackle the subject – or how to even identify what talent is actually critical.
A recent survey by Mercer found while nearly two-thirds (64 per cent) of respondents reported that managing critical talent is vital to the execution of their business and talent strategies, less than one-third (30 per cent) rated their critical talent programs as being extremely effective.
The survey results reflect responses from 124 organizations in Canada and the United States.
"As the economy cautiously rebounds, global investment in talent is rising and leaders recognize that talent is an essential element of every core business function," says Mercer. "Yet, many leaders still cite the lack of adequate talent pipelines among their most critical business challenges."
On the positive side, Mercer found 78 per cent of respondents have processes to identify critical talent. Some respondents defined up to 20 per cent of their workforce as critical, with two to five per cent being the most common target for defining critical talent.
The criteria used to identify critical talent included:
Of respondents that define critical talent as hot jobs or by job family or function, the most frequently cited jobs and job families considered critical include:
Although survey respondents saw their talent programs as being strategically important, Mercer says its research suggests organizations are missing out on opportunities to make the most of these programs. For example:
But Mercer suggests organizations are starting to ask the right kinds of questions about their critical talent including:
There are a number of reasons why organizations may be struggling with the notion of critical talent.
The most obvious challenge is that "critical talent" means different things to different people – even to those on the same leadership team. And when you layer the need to articulate what kind of talent may be needed in the future, establishing a consensus view becomes all the more challenging.
Interestingly, some 41 per cent of the Mercer survey respondents said they define critical talent in terms of organizational hierarchy – with 47 per cent of these respondents defining critical talent as roles at the director level and above.
If an organization really wants to develop a meaningful strategy around critical talent, they need to get more specific about what kinds of skills and talent are most vital to continued business success. By getting the analysis down to specific jobs or people, an organization is better positioned to develop meaningful strategies for retaining and engaging such talent – as well as to more effectively tackle workforce planning and succession planning.
High-level or generic analysis – such as defining every senior management role as representing critical talent – isn't sufficiently granular to support meaningful action planning. Broad definitions can also translate into higher costs if an organization seeks to implement special programs that specifically target critical talent.
Organizations that want a competitive edge when it comes to attracting and retaining talent need to engage in deeper analytics about their and future talent needs. They also need a clear plan defining the steps they'll take to ensure they have continued access to the talent they need. That includes defining what communication to such talent will look like – and what the organization will do to continue to retain and engage everyone else.
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Audrey Alcaraz, a 13-year-old figure skater, got a free trip to Sochi thanks to the South Korean government. Bustle reported on Friday, that the talented figure skater will be part of the Sochi Olympics Closing Ceremony and she has to be extraordinarily excited. According to Hollywood Life, millions of people are expected to tune into the Sochi Olympics Closing Ceremony and plans are being made to watch the live stream too.
Who is Audrey Alcaraz? She is a Filipino athlete who apparently is getting a chance to show her passion to the world. Offered a very unique opportunity, the figure skater has confirmed she is hanging around for the closing ceremony to give the fans a show. Exactly what she will be doing in the program and when she will be seen haven't been revealed. Hopefully the world will notice when she arrived on the international stage.
During the Closing Ceremony, expected to be near the time the Russia passes on the hosting of the 2018 games to South Korea, the fans will see the figure skater from the Philippines. Proud to be part of one of the biggest spectacles of the world, it appears the youngster doesn't even know she is going to be famous once her face is showing to the world


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Konrad Waldorf shows in his paper one may realize a Grothendieck topology on the category of diffeological spaces. Is there any work exploring stacks over the category of diffeologies?
I will show that stacks over diffeological spaces are "the same" (in the sense of equivalence of 2-categories) as ordinary stacks on manifolds.
The Grothendieck pre-topology in question is the Grothendieck topology of "subductions". A map $f:X \to Y$ between diffeological spaces is a subduction if for every map $g:M \to Y$ with $M$ a manifold, the pullback $$X \times_Y M \to M$$ admits local sections. The pre-topology consists of singleton subductions as covers.
Notice that a map between smooth manifolds is a subduction if and only if it admits local sections. Given an open cover $U_\alpha$ of a manifold $M,$ $$\coprod\limits_\alpha U_\alpha \to M$$ is a subduction, and any subduction between manifolds can be refined by such a map. It follows that the restriction of the subduction pretopology to manifolds generates the same Grothendieck topology (i.e. the same covering sieves) as the standard open cover pretopology.
Denote, the full and faithful inclusion of manifolds into diffeological spaces by $$i:Mfd \hookrightarrow DiffSp,$$ where I allow arbitrary disjoint unions of manifolds to be considered manifolds. Consider a diffeological space $X.$ Let $$X_n=\coprod\limits_{f \in Hom\left(\mathbb{R}^n,X\right)} \mathbb{R}^n.$$ $X_n$ is a manifold and has a canonical map $$X_n \to X.$$ Putting all these together we get a map $$\pi_X:\tilde X=\coprod\limits_n X_n \to X,$$ and $\tilde X$ is a manifold. Since any point of a manifold has a neighborhood diffeomorphic to $\mathbb{R}^n,$ it follows that $\pi_X$ is a subduction. By the comparison Lemma (see SGA 4, III), it follows that $i$ induces an equivalence $$Sh\left(Mfd\right) \simeq Sh\left(DiffSp\right)$$ between the topoi of sheaves on manifolds and diffeological spaces respectively, where on the left we have open covers, and on the right we have subductions. Moreover, by applying the comparison lemma again, we can replace the category $Mfd$ with the subcategory $Man$ consisting of only embedded submanifolds of Euclidean spaces. A standard argument implies that in fact this equivalence extends to an equivalence $$St\left(Man\right) \simeq St\left(DiffSp\right)$$ between their 2-categories of stacks. (E.g. you could model these as 1-truncated hypersheaves using the Jardine model strtucture, and the result follows from the ordinary comparison lemma).
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Stacks over diffeological spaces are "the same" as stacks over manifolds.


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Nike (NYSE:NKE) CEO Mark Parker thinks soccer is here to stay. "Here" obviously refers to the United States, which is just about the only place in the world where soccer isn't already a major national sport. The English Premier League brought in more than $5 billion in revenue in its 2013-2014 season, while Major League Soccer in the U.S., a country with about five times as many people, is hanging out near the $500 million mark. So it's no surprise that Parker and Nike think the U.S. "offers huge potential in particular."
Parker might be right, but he might also be riding that World Cup high that seems to infect the media and major corporations every four years. That hasn't translated into more sustained interest in the U.S., though, and this now completed World Cup looks to be no different. Attendance at MLS games hasn't seen an appreciable increase since World Cup fever hit.So what does Nike stand to gain if things turn a corner, and can it compete with the other big name in soccer?
Nike isn't sweating the lack of soccer culture in the U.S., as it has running, football, and every other sport to fall back on when it comes to selling shoes and other sports apparel. The company's North American division pulled in $12.3 billion in revenue last year. Nike's real desire is that it would be the biggest player in the U.S. soccer market going into any increase in the sport's popularity here.
On the global scene, Nike is beating Adidas (NASDAQOTH:ADDYY), but it's a tighter race than in the U.S. Here Adidas only earned $3.4 billion last year, about a quarter of Nike's take. If you take the companies' North American sales out of the equation, Nike is just barely ahead, based on last year's annual sales, at $15.5 billion to Adidas' $15.1 billion. Nike is winning due to its dominance in footwear, but the companies were much closer on apparel last year.
Soccer offers Nike a chance to move even further ahead in the American apparel scene, taking Adidas by storm. While the companies' total revenue lines are very different, most of that is due to footwear. Globally, Nike made $8.1 billion on apparel last year, while Adidas brought in $7.9 billion. Soccer is driving a huge chunk of those apparel numbers, and Parker said that sales around the World Cup included "a few hundred million dollars" from the sale of shirts for Nike. No big deal.
Fighting the home-front battle
Unfortunately, a spike in MLS popularity wouldn't necessarily hit Nike on the bottom line. Adidas has locked down the official sponsorship of Major League Soccer until 2018. In order for Nike to really get ahead in the soccer market, it would need to pick that deal up, or hope that soccer becomes so popular that people begin following international teams, many of which are sponsored by Nike.
Even with all the footwork required, Nike would still be in a great place to benefit ahead of competitors. Under Armour (NYSE:UA) has been an unstoppable force in the American football scene, but the company has almost no representation on the soccer pitch. A spike in U.S. interest would put Under Armour -- which has opted to focus on Latin American soccer clubs -- on the back foot.
That's been a small overall percentage of Under Armour's revenue, and it's fighting in a tight market. Last year, Under Armour took in a scant 6.3% of its total revenue outside of North America. South America is no different than the rest of the globe, where Adidas and Nike control about 70% of the soccer market.
There's plenty of good news for Nike if soccer does catch on in the United States, but don't hold your breath. Americans are a hard lot to shift, and no new major sport has been introduced in the U.S. since NASCAR. Even though there are more Division 1 college soccer teams than there are football teams, Americans still overwhelmingly prefer football. Luckily for Nike and its investors, the company's success doesn't hinge on soccer in the States -- it's strictly a case of winning even more.
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I have a network game licensed under the AGPL that I modified to suit my needs. Theoretically, I want to charge people to play this game over a local area network that is set up in a private establishment of which I own all the local network infrastructure including the server and the game stations. would I still be required to make the source code available to these people?
Do I need to make the source code available to a modified AGPL application if the application is only exclusively available over my private LAN?
It's hard to say for certain.
Based upon the AGPL text, it could be argued that you're propagating the code. As such, you would be obligated to then provide the source.
OTOH, it appears that they explicitly exempt what you're describing in part of their definition for conveyance:
(Update, hat tip to K.Steff!) Section 13 muddies the waters even further.
I would recommend dropping the FSF an email and just ask them. It's the only way you can get a definitive answer. Obviously they have a bias towards saying "yes" in distributing the source, but I think they'll be fair in how they assess your question. It sounds like you're halfway ready to provide the source anyway. Getting a "ruling" from FSF in this case is about as good of a scenario as you can get.
I'm not a lawyer (and I'm not giving you legal advice, please consult a lawyer).
However, it's my current understanding that GPL-style licenses don't care so much about costs and monetary exchange, or public vs private, or ownership of the distribution medium, but more distribution of source and binaries.
The spirit of the GPL is that if you take code from a GPL source,
The AGPL was created to address a perceived shortcoming in the letter of the GPL where hosting some code on an external server that a client connected to was used to shield the source from being released. Ergo, the spirit of this license is that network distribution falls under the GPL constraints.
I personally believe the answer to your question is clear cut based on this information, but again, I'm not a lawyer and there are myriad intricacies that I may not be privy to.
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Recorded: Richmond, VA, September 5, 2007
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Sometimes it is hard to find an angle to write about in a review. I have written hundreds of thousands of words about music over the years in feature stories, columns, reviews and books. How many different ways can you say someone is a good drummer? Occasionally as an aid while listening, I will surf the Internet and read about whomever I am reviewing. This way something may grab me that wasn't grabbing me even a second earlier. In the case of drummer Tim Kuhl, I visited his "MySpace page" as I was putting on the cut "Ghost." I began listening and was amazed by all of the glorious confusion I was hearing. Kuhl seemed like two drummers. The music was headed in all directions at once. I thought this is really something far out. Then after about 20 seconds, I realized I was listening to the CD cut and another Kuhl piece that was playing from his MySpace page simultaneously. Oops. My bad.
After my initial and embarrassing excitement you may think I would be disappointed in hearing just one drummer at work. But that would not be the case. In addition to being a good drummer – what other way could I put it? – Kuhl is an exceptional composer. "Ghost" is pretty much a straight-ahead piece. But, though modern, it has a late-'50s film noir law enforcement vibe going for it. The subversive nature of Kuhl's piece captures perfectly the essence of a crooked cop on the beat. Perhaps one being actively haunted by an innocent man he killed? The band stretches out with some expressive playing from trombonist Rick Parker and saxophonist JC Kuhl before returning to the dramatic theme. The guys in this band can all play. But in the end I walk away with a story in my mind told to me in a way only a really talented composer could.
Reviewer: Walter Kolosky
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From Dragon's Dogma is Grigori, making his debut on FactPile up against Alduin from Skyrim.
Dragon King against Dragon King.
They fight atop the throat of the world (Skyrim).
Which Dragon will claim the victory?
Published on July 6, 2013, by admin - Posted in Duels 77
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From Dragon's Dogma is Grigori, making his debut on FactPile up against Alduin from Skyrim.
Dragon King against Dragon King.
They fight atop the throat of the world (Skyrim).
Which Dragon will claim the victory?
Some videos about Grigori:
Grigori appears in the world:
Apparently Grigori have some control over weather (From 2:21):
Final battle against Grigori (at 13:25 Grigori ruin the tower, from 28:35 Grigori nearly ruin the town):
Also some more info about Grigori in-game powers. He can mind control humans and pawns. His special roar can kill ordinary humans and pawns instantly. Now about his spells, because in battle you migh not see them clearly I use other videous to show his spells to you (From 1:38 Frigor, from 8:56 Bolide, from 1:58 Levin):
From 8:57 Holy Furor:
And the wiki: dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/The_Dragon
What special technique do you have for getting your matches posted? I want to know it too…
Also, how long does it usually take to get a match posted for you?
@Neon Lord
"What special technique do you have for getting your matches posted? I want to know it too…"
I don't know really. I suggested this match about a month ago.
From my understanding, Alduin from lore is supposed to be far beastlier than the in-game one.
Well, the reason Alduin ended up winning against Kalameet is 1. He's basically invincible to most things, with the exception of things that are "destined" to kill him, and 2. He can do a lot of crazy stuff with his shouts.
I think the Admin either A. Is sleeping with Rookie(most likely) or B. Consistently likes his match suggestions, and just happened to put up a nice group of them recently.
But, it's obviously A.
@Rookie post 1: So, like Alduin but a lot less?
" So, like Alduin but a lot less?"
I think yes. But Grigori never cared about the destruction of the world. He travels between worlds to fight with the Arisens and claims their hearts for himself if they die in battle against him or accepted his offer.
Damn rookie, your matches seem to be being posted so quickly! Crazy! You sure your not paying?
"You sure your not paying?"
Well, seeing the info presented I think Alduin could pull a win thanks to shouts. They both have about the same destructive feat of destroying a tower.. alduin nearly razed a whole small town.
" They both have about the same destructive feat of destroying a tower"
I am not so sure about it.
Grigori attacking a tower(From 13:13): www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK3zT4VJcTc
Alduin attacking a tower (from 4:10):
You can see a difference here. It is far from same(IMO). The Alduin probably have the edge in this battle thanks to the shouts, but I doubt that his brute strenght is near to Grigori level.
Grigori seems to be FAR heavier than Alduin. Alduin smashes through the wall of the tower, Grigori plows through the roof.
Alduin doesn't really like to engage in melee, so Grigori's brute strength would be mostly moot unless he can fly faster than Alduin.
So what's preventing this from going the same way as the last Alduin match, seeing as one of them has to get the very Concept of Mortality itself forced upon him before he can be killed ?
"So what's preventing this from going the same way as the last Alduin match, seeing as one of them has to get the very Concept of Mortality itself forced upon him before he can be killed ?"
This time I am prepared for this)))
Grigori also can be slain only by Arisen hand, so for this fight let's turn off the immortality. They both can fly, fight, use magic and hurt each other.
If you want more fantasy explanation, let's say that it is the seneschal (God in Dragon's Dogma and creater of Grigori) who gives Grigori the right to hurt the Alduin)))
I'm voting Grigori, he destroys the world too, and then he goes to another one and destroys it too, over and over again. Also he's pretty wise and treats you as his equal while Alduin is an arrogant prick who sorely underestimates you.
Also Grigoru carres this thing inside of his body, so he definatly can hurt Alduin:
@Grim Aran
"I'm voting Grigori, he destroys the world too, and then he goes to another one and destroys it too, over and over again."
Yes, but lore-wise Alduin can devour an enire universe, while Grigori can only destroy one world at the time. Also Alduin have Dragon Shouts.
Alduin is the *world* eater, it only says he'll wipe out Nirn and even then he won't actually destroy it, just raze the surface to "reset" it. And most shouts are basically just spells, Grigori won't feel much if you breath fire or ice on him. As was pointed out higher on the page he's also much, much stronger physically, he destroyed a castle just by landing on it and taking off.
Those ar very minor shouts compared to the rest. Like, Elemental Fury, which greatly increases the speed of the user, or Slow Time, which does exactly what it sounds like. He could use Drain Vitality to weaken Grigori by sapping his strength/health(whatever that is in this context).
Good old Unrelenting Force could definitely stall him, possibly even knock him out of the sky. Then there is the meteor shout and the lighting storm shout.
And that's just the in-game ones. Shouts are basically a dragon speaking what they want of happen. So Alduin can do a lot more as well.
And whirlewind sprint would allow him to zip through the air.
Also, there is no delay inbetween these shouts if someone is gonna bring that up. The only limitation is for him to say the words. The delay in game for the Dragonborn is a game balancing mechanic.
Imo Fus Roh Da would barely if at all budge him given his size/weight and general sturdiness. When you stab him in the heart as he flies above cloud-level to shake you off, he falls straight down to the ground and all it does is maybe daze him a few seconds while he gets back up. Speaking of in the heart, I'm pretty sure it only "comes out" in the presence of an arisen so Alduin might well have to deal with above mentioned extreme durability.
The way I see it is Al has all those neat fancy powers but ( relatively ) not that much raw power while Grigori is a lot less versatile but has massive amounts of pure strength.
Well since I was a mage/archer/warrior my favorite shout was the one that lowered the armor class and cause DoT. Easier to hurt AND deals continuous residual damage is a no brainer IMO. Couple that with the dragon rap master….
Initial bets with Alduin. But, let's see how this goes.
It's barely going at all. But that's okay, because I know how to attract cynics: With Twilight.
What can Grigori do aside from be big and land on stuff?
"What can Grigori do aside from be big and land on stuff?"
Control over weather. After Arisen nearly kills him, Grigori change the weather around the world.
Powerful abilities (from 28:35 Grigori nearly ruin the town with his magic. From 24:45 Grigori using his most powerful attack)):
He is also have several magic attacks, like meteors, holy attack, lighting.
His roar can kill ordinary persons and pawns.
@Soul at #25
That scene makes sense, or at least the kombat after that.
@Everyone else
I could go check for what else both sides can offer or try to gauge their foe quality if it helps.
Would it help?
@Commander Cross- I didn't watch that scene. I only wanted it to attract people. It seems to have failed.
" so Alduin might well have to deal with above mentioned extreme durability."
Marked For Death. And if it's coming out of Alduins mouth, it will hurt a lot more. Fire and Frost won't hurt especially bad. Whirlwind and Elemental Fury would make Alduin pretty fucking fast. Become Ethereal will make Alduin….ethereal. Detect Life will give Grigori no place to hide. Plus the addition of lightning and meteors coming from the sky that target enemies makes Grigori have to work that much harder. And I would assume Dragonrend would at least stun Grigori. Drain Vitality will do just that. The summon shouts are irrelevant as they outside help. Soul Tear might do some damage depending on Grigoris resistance to soul rape.
Also, all of those shouts and more can be used as fast as it takes Alduin to say three words. Grigori has an obvious size advantage, and I'd say even strength. But Alduin will fly circles around his head, while making him more succeptible to damage and draining his health and magic, becoming untouchable, pelting him with lightning and meteors, and more.
I highly doubt Alduin can use Dragonrend as it's a concept totally alien to them. It was also developed by mortals, not the dov, so that's further evidence against its inclusion.
I just thought of that now. Dragonrend is out.
Yeah, Dragonrend is currently the only known shout that dragons can't do, as it was made by humans using their hatred for the dragons, and their knowledge of what it feels to be mortal.
Even without it, Alduin still has plenty of usable abilities and several advantages over Grigori.
@REAPER -> Marked for Death lowers defense a bit, but nigh-invulnerable minus a bit is still pretty damn sturdy. Or alternatively, MFD lowers *armor*, Grigori doesn't have armor. Become ethereal also makes you unable to hurt others. I see no reason why the giant bright red dragon with a big power advantage would want to hide. The Arisen can call lightning and meteors down on him, doesn't really hurt that much. Dragonrend is A: unusable by Alduin and B: useless on non-elder scrolls dragons. Drain Vitality would do fine and I'm not sure if stuff from DD have souls but soul tear would prolly hurt if they do. Grigori can also fly very fast, dunno what makes you think Alduin could blitz him just cause he's smaller.
Oh also, shouts are magic, so they can be resisted with magic res, Grigori has pretty decent magic res.
Alduin could blitz him with a combination of Slow Time and Battle Fury, with Whirlwind Sprint (Which is only a sprint in name, and the Dragonborn's usage. Alduin would use Whirlwind Flight or something similar) to close in and back out.
Could Alduin use Bend Will on Grigori ? Does Grigori have any mental resistance feats ?
MFD lowers Armor. Armor meaning damage resistance. Grigori will become more vulnerable.
And are Shouts Magic ? I'm not so sure on that, since TES has magic that is completely different from the Thu'um. Only Dragons and select few people can use Shouts. A LOT more people use Magic.
In-game, Shouts are magic. Other than that, they're technically a type of magic.
My breton witch is immune to magic and dragon shout do jack shit damage to her, so magic res=shout res.
Gameplay Mechanics.
I would agree that they are game mechanics. They do not use your magic bar and in lore it's more akin to some sort of "soul"power than grabbing the metaphysical strands of energy. Being subject to magic res should be a balancing issue.
Also marked for death (thanks for the name) whittles away life at the same time. It Lowers durability/causes more damage to be taken, so the fact that G dragon had no armor is moot. It works on creatures without armor, like bears and…. Dragons
As I feared, it seems that Alduin is winning this match too…
Still there is might be one thing that can help Grigori win this battle.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPFJO28x3AI (From 25:59 to 27:20)
Can Alduin protect himself from such magic?
Shouts may not use magicka but they're still magic. Whether you expand your own magical energy to create fire or command fire into existence with your voice, it's fire either way and magic res protects from it. My witch dovahkin can even walk through non-magical fire unscathed. Imo if it applies to fire breath it applies to all shouts since they're the same sort of power.
Still game mechanics. While Shouts technically are called magic, it's not magic the same way "real" magic of TES is. They're more an innate ability than something anyone can just pick up, though it is true that anyone can learn it.
The point was Yol Toor Shul ( fire breath ) fire is the same kind of fire as the "flames" spell. Yes it's a different kind of power, yes it's a much more powerful attack but it's still just fire. Thus if your fire resistant you can resist Yol Toor Shul too, sure it'll hurt more because it's stronger but you'll resist it.
" dunno what makes you think Alduin could blitz him just cause he's smaller."
The fact that he has two speed increasing shouts and one time slowing shout makes me think that.
Marked for Death will slowly hurt Grigori while making him easier to hurt.
Ans the Shouts are more of a spiritual gift.
I wasn't ever going to debate the fire shouts because I'm sure Grigori is resistant to fire anyway, he's a red dragon. Can someone post up some things Grigori is resistant to?
Because Ice Form is able to freeze Flame Atronachs. That's ice cold enough to freeze fire.
I'm just using fire as an exemple to illustrate my point.
I'll wait to see some more of Grigori in this debate.
TES magic is powered by souls regardless though.
Enchantments, which are functionally identical to magicka powered spells, are powered by captured souls. Heck, in Oblivion, Enchanted weapons had normal magic spells placed directly on them; they still consumed soul power to use.
Simply put, consistent portrayal of enchantments being functionally the same as "mana magic" while also "soul magic" means that they are the same thing. The fact that "soul" based magic like Shouts are checked against magic resistance just reinforces this.
That's more than simple game mechanics. That's consistent canon implication.
@OriginalA: …What?
In Skyrim, spells are not powered by souls. What's your point? They're identical, except they can do completely different things. Shouts are
@OriginalA: …What?
1) In Skyrim, spells are not powered by souls. What's your point?
2) They're identical, except they can do completely different things.
3) Shouts are not soul based.
Yes, normal spells are not powered by souls; they run on mana.
Enchantments, which are normal spells as per Oblivion, however are powered by souls. That's the link between so called "soul" magic and mana magic.
The end result is that regardless of power source they are still magic and magic resistance blocks both. So the question to how well Shouts will do against Grigori is entirely dependent on his ability to resist magic, cause that's what the Shouts are; magic.
Shouts are soul based. They are powered by Dragon Souls. Or did you miss the fact that you have to harvest Dragon Souls in order to get new Shouts?
Yes, they do run on souls. But the souls of animals and people. In Skyrim, if a NPC puts up a magic wall, the Shout will still go through. Shouts are just the voice of a dragon. It's just they way they speak. I see what A is saying, but a battle between dragons is just a verbal debate. Not a magic shootout.
"Can someone post up some things Grigori is resistant to?"
Grigori is resistant to all elements (including ice and holy elements) except for dark element (he is weak against dark element). He is immune to fire, thunder and holy elements.
Anyway, it seems what I must ask again. Can Alduin protect himself from the entropy?(because this spell has enormous range, Grigori was like a half country away, mortally injured and he still was able to cast it and nearly ruin the city).
"Shouts are soul based. They are powered by Dragon Souls. Or did you miss the fact that you have to harvest Dragon Souls in order to get new Shouts?"
Um, no. They aren't powered by shouts. See, if they were, then anyone could use them to use a shout.
No, how it works in Skyrim, is that you, the Dragonborn, can absorb a dragons soul and use it to gain the knowledge required to use the shout, to understand the word and how to make it a Thu'um.
Its no more magic than normal fire or wind is.
For instance, take the Greybeards. They can't absorb dragon souls. Yet they are masters of using many different shouts.
Why its so special to be able to absorb a dragons soul is that it makes the process to be able to use the shout instant, since you just learn about how to use the shout from the soul itself. Dragons don't need souls to use the shouts because its completely natural to them.
"Control over weather. After Arisen nearly kills him, Grigori change the weather around the world.
Powerful abilities (from 28:35 Grigori nearly ruin the town with his magic. From 24:45 Grigori using his most powerful attack))"
I watched the spots you pointed out, and I don't see how you can say that Grigori ruined the town, or caused those people to age or what not. Do you have any proof he did that?
The Dragon Souls… are a shortcut, you could say. By taking it, the Dragonborn takes some of the inborn knowledge of the Thu'um that every dragon has.
The ruining towns spot, all I saw was black clouds swirling around the town, then some of the buildings crumbling away like in an earthquake. Besides, Alduin is an immortal dragon demigod. He's not exactly going to age and die…
"I watched the spots you pointed out, and I don't see how you can say that Grigori ruined the town, or caused those people to age or what not. Do you have any proof he did that?"
But Grigori said it himself: "… this world's utmost depths…"And you can clearly see that he is doing something with the weather while he talks with Arisen. And after that we see how city starts to crumble and the hole in the earth is open. If not Grigori, who else can do it?
Well, I could see him dying causing devastation, but has he shown this ability any other time in the game, or any other source? Cause, I would just put it down to his dying causing that.
Plus, like itchyness said, I don't even know how much it would affect Alduin. He is immortal.
"Well, I could see him dying causing devastation…"
That might be so, but the problem is, Grigori survived this battle:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kygt512ZQ2w (from 02:28)
Grigori is just waiting until Senechal summons him again.
1-> the town being ruined isn't a spell Grigori does, it crumbles because the everfall just opened under it, whether or not he was the one to open I couldn't say but it wouldn't really help against a flier anyway.
2-> Entropy can kill immortals too, Arisen don't age without their hearts and it can kill you anyway.
3-> I'm pretty sure the Ur Dragon isn't the same as the Red Dragon, they're both Grigori since that's a title but they're not the same individual. The "Grigori" you fight in game is an Arisen who managed to kill his dragon but failed to defeat the Seneschal, he only holds 3 hearts, the Ur Dragon has 28.
@Grim Aran
"3-> I'm pretty sure the Ur Dragon isn't the same as the Red Dragon, they're both Grigori since that's a title but they're not the same individual. The "Grigori" you fight in game is an Arisen who managed to kill his dragon but failed to defeat the Seneschal, he only holds 3 hearts, the Ur Dragon has 28."
There is only one Grigori, as I understand it. Senechal simply grants him new body each time he needs him to test the Arisen. Grigori have multiple bodies, but still there is only one Grigori. If you remember, the Grigori in Savan (current Senechal) past, "our" Grigori and Ur-Dragon Grigori all have the same voices and same bodies, also Ur also acknowledged Arisen, so he knew him before. And since we never met another giant dragon before, it is safe to assume that this is the same Grigori.
Alduin survived the battle with the Dovahkiin. His soul was absorbed by Akatosh to test the world again. So basically like Grigori, if I understand correctly.
When you fight this Grigori, he tells you the pain you're causing him is the same pain he once caused, ie. he used to be an Arisen and he fought a Dragon. He won that battle and went through the everfall but was unable to beat Savan, the current Seneschal, so he became the Red Dragon who took the dragonforged, the duke's and your heart. Then you kill him, go through the everfall and face Savan too, and if you lose you become the new Red Dragon of that world. It's possible the bodies of all Dragons look the same but they definitely aren't all the same person.
So Grigori could be a Legacy Dragon title of sorts, not too different from the Nolanverse Ras Al' Ghul(from Batman Begins) or DC Comics' Dr. Fate, right?
Well Grigori means "watcher" so it could just be a title ( which it is imo ) but we'd have to get a translation of the latin he speaks on the beach at the beginning to be sure. But ya that's pretty much what I'm saying. Maybe the Dragon just looks the same because Savan made it look like the one he fought, other Seneschals could have made dragons look like whatever they wanted, maybe it's not even always a dragon, maybe some oddball Seneschal sent Unicorn!Grigori to make find Arisens.
Well now that we've discussed the backstory of Grigori. Would anyone care to continue the debate? I'd still like to know if he can resist Alduins many types of attacks.
We've pretty much been saying yes for a while.
We may as well continue on and see what further information both sides can offer we can find.
Makes sense to me.
Ok, I'm having some serious issues with the Grigori information.
My major beef comes with the claim he "Changed the weather" and Grigori's goal.
Lets start with the easy one to get rid of, Grigori's goal. For starters he doesn't just kill Arisen, he finds them, and test them. In fact, he doesn't even test them, The Seneschal does. The Seneschal created "The Dragon" in order to find and track the Arisen, the Gods Canidate aka the next Seneschal.
What irks me is the Entropy claim the most, that wasn't Grigori. At all. That was the Everfall opening up and the Seneschal basically acknowledging the Arisen. Grigori didn't destroy the town with magic. The Everfall was unleashed.
Also, that mind control feat? No. Drakes and The Dragon have the ability to manipulate Pawns, not man. Pawns are those without innate will, so possession isn't really that hard. While the Seneschal claims humans are no different than the pawns, there have been no humans affected by the Drake and Dragons mind control, only pawns.
The Ur Dragon and Grigori are two different dragons. When an Arisen fails the test against the Seneschal, they become the Dragon. Another Grigori doesn't share a body, each Dragon is different. In Bitter Black isle you hear Daimon (Arisen gone mad… Thats a different story) conversing with the Dragon, the dragon of that tale being his former lover and owning a female voice.
See, I don't know much Alduin and what he can do, but Grigori is a powerful dragon. Thats about all I can say.
That's pretty much how it works ya. Seneschal gets tired of being the omnipotent master of the multiverse ( for some reason that remains alien to me ) so he makes a dragon, dragon attacks villages and cities and wrecks the **** out of them until someone badass ( or stupid ) enough attacks him, then he steals their heart and makes them an Arisen, the badass gets back up, without their heart because willpowa!!! ( someone give them a green lantern ring ) and goes about killing monsters until s/he's beefed up enough to take the dragon who has meanwhile been curbstomping the rest of the world (apparently for the lolz), then s/he kicks it's giant fiery butt and the everfall opens, the Arisen jumps in, kills stronger monsters and gathers magic rocks from their corpses, opens a portal to beyond the rift, fights the seneschal and if it decides the Arisen is badass enough assisted suicide occurs and we got a new omnipotent master of the multiverse. The role of Grigori is to "find someone who's will is strong enough to become Arisen" and to "temper their will into something capable of sustaining the world". The test of the Seneschal is basically just him checking out your will personally and making sure you know your options and you *really* want to do what you're doing. So Grigori is essentially a beef gate to screen for people badass enough to fight god.
New feats for Grigori!
"It took the dragon only seconds to wipe entire nations from the map of the world. One of the nations which the dragon had utterly destroyed had been large and powerful, enough so that if not for the dragon's attacks it may well have come out the victor of the Endless Strife. But it was not a tragedy without survivors and among those few who lived through the horrors of that attack was the son of the king, the prince of this lost country. One of his eyes, wounded in his flight from the dragon's attack, began to fester and, before long, the pestilence would claim his life. He took his rage and regret and transmitted them to the page via ink and quill. "
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My dear Mother,
I easily comprehend the cause of your silence; and hail with satisfaction the small letter you sent me; which tho' written in various hands does yet contain sentiments of your own and always gratifying to me. In the whole course of life I feel that I can never have but one Mother—one friend that will attend to my interests so devotedly; and therefore it is an object of my incessant desire to testify how much I am sensible to your goodness. Words and wishes are my only means of doing so at present: but I trust the day will arrive when more substantial proofs may lie within my reach; and if I do not use them, foul befall me!
As to my state of health, which you inquire after, I have told the young men that it is fair rather than otherwise. These two months, of January and February, are the most trying of the whole twelve, particularly when wet and warm, as has been the case this season: so that my digestion has not been altogether so good as that of a huntsman or husbandman of late; but still I cannot complain much, and by taking good exercise, I hope as the weather mends to mend also, and finally to get completely sound. My employment, you are aware, is still very fluctuating and uncertain; but this too, I trust, will improve: I am advancing I think, tho' leisurely, and at last, I feel no insuperable doubts (at least when healthy) of getting into honest bread, which is all I want—for as to fame and all that, I see it already to be nothing better than a meteor, a Will o' the Wisp which leads one on thro' quagmires and pitfalls to catch an object which when we have caught it turns out to be—nothing. I am happy to think, in the mean time, that you do not feel uneasy about my future destiny. Providence, as you observe, will order it better or worse: and with His award, so nothing mean or wicked lie before me, I shall study to rest satisfied.
If I were quite vigorous and healthy, I think I might be happy here— provided I had any thing to make my bread by. The day is very simply and agre[e]ably divided with me, between employment and recreation, which indeed trenches greatly upon my employment rendering too often what should be study, nothing better than a vague survey of books, amusement therefore not occupation. I rise about eight, being duly summoned by this vigilant keeper of mine; and after smoking a cigar, I progress slowly over to Great Kings-street1 about a mile off, to teach—often wrapped up in an immense tartan-plaid which I lately got from Glasgow; and after ten o'clock has struck I return home as slowly to eat my breakfast—which usually stands in waiting for me. I take tea or coffee usually, porridge did not do. About eleven I again sally forth to walk a little, and then to go and read old books at the Advocates' library till two or three, when dinner waits me, and soon is followed by the presence of Geo: Johnstone who writes for me an hour or two every night, and leaves me about eight or nine to fall upon some private reading, which I drop in no great length of time; and then after a walk to the end of Prince's-street I retire once more to repose. This is the history of a good day—a day when I am well and fresh. At other times the procedure is more or less interrupted, I walk more, read less, and do not feel so happy. Upon the whole, however, I have no great reason to murmur, and as I said things look as if they were improving.
David Hope, with whom I once rode to Moffatt, was here to-day (Sandy or Jack would tell you), and left me [an ho]ur ago. He spoke of your friend Mrs Hope as liv[ing] in [her] own house at Musselburgh and quite reformed from her unfortunate propensities; so that she now feels comparatively happy. I sent your compliments by him (the first time he writes) and mentioned how often you had intended and how firmly to send her a letter yourself.
It is a striking thing and an alarming to those 'who are at ease'2 in the world, to think how many living beings—that had breath and hope within them when I left Ecclefechan, are now numbered with the clods of the valley! Surely there is something obstinately stupid in the heart of man or 'the flight of three score years'—the poor cares and the poorer joys of this our pilgrimage, would never move us as they do. Why do we fret and murmur and toil and consume ourselves for objects so transient and frail? Is it that the soul, living here as in her prison-house—strives ever after something boundless like herself & finding it nowhere, still renews the search? Surely we are fearfully and wonderfully made.3— But I must not pursue those speculations tho' they force themselves upon us some times, even without our asking.
Write to me whenever you can get a minutes time. Be careful most careful I entreat you of your health and comfort. It is invaluable to us all.
Your affectionate Son, /
Thomas Carlyle
I expected my Father to write; but I would not have him driven fro[m] better employment for such an object. [My be]st love to him.


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