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Build 1: Think Different.
Well, we always said that we would never 'port' Trillian to OS X. And now we're excited to announce that we haven't! Instead, after many support/feature-request tickets asking for an OS X port… we wrote a new Trillian UI from scratch.
To clarify, with Trillian's new architecture (v4.x) the core functionality is separated from the UI. This is how the Flash-based web version and the Ajax-driven iPhone version can use the same code as the native Windows client. The UI layers are all entirely different, but the underlying code is the same. This is how the new Mac OS X port functions; the UI layer is entirely written from scratch in Objective-C and using Cocoa, but the underlying 'guts' of the program – the mediums, the contact list management and so on – are the same Trillian code as on Windows, Flash and the iPhone!
Though this first alpha build of the OS X version of Trillian is still very preliminary and minimal – the functionality pulled through is about the same as the Flash-based web version – the code for every single feature on the Windows version is there in the underlying mediums. As the UI is expanded, those features will become available. The OS X version will be playing catch-up to the Windows one for a while yet, however.
Right now, this initial build will only work for those who have already set up their Astra accounts and contact lists under the Windows version; brave souls with a Mac running Tiger can download the build to experiment with, and log quirks into Bugzilla under the new 'Mac OS X' platform option; this being build 1, there will no doubt be quite a few!
If you're an existing tester and would like the build, please use this URL to send us a letter, including your current Astra username and testing details. We will be accepting any existing testers who are able to follow these instructions into the OS X testing pool. If you're not a tester but would like to be, our sign-up form is here.
Going forward, Windows builds will continue happen on Fridays, while Mac OS X builds will happen on Mondays. (Though obviously not this coming Monday, however!) If there is interest in general, we may do some posts about the experiences of trying to recreate the Trillian UI under Cocoa and translating existing bits to their (not always identical!) Mac OS X equivalents. Also, please note that we'll be treating the OS X build as a completely separate entity as far as our release cycle is concerned; Win32 users will not have to wait for a feature-complete OS X port to see Trillian Astra go gold. Depending on the development process, we may very well release a final build of the Win32 edition before the OS X edition.
For now… "think different" and enjoy the new treat!
P.S. For a full screenshot so you can prove that it's for real, click here.
187 Responses to "Build 1: Think Different."
arcaex Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 3:50 pm
akrus Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 3:52 pm
Linux build please
loraxxarol Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 3:53 pm
Awexome Cross '98.
AdamWillis Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 3:55 pm
Super Excited. This is what I have been waiting for with Astra.
RSA Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 3:56 pm
Oh man! Awesome! I know we're not even really at an Alpha stage with a 1st release, more like , Proof of Concept code, but still, this is moving in a good direction…..lord knows I hate iChat!
DiamondNRG Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 5:09 pm
Wow, big news.
rhlowe Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 5:18 pm
That is so awesome!! I am buying a mac soon and I hated the idea of not having Trillian without parallels, you have now made all my dreams come true!!!!
k3davis Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 5:27 pm
That's swell… forgive me and all for saying this but, no wonder we're still in alpha after all these years. Is your development scope so large that you're never going to release a final? I'm on the verge of dumping my trillian pro because it is so aged. I'm excited about this project, but the more periphery you release the less inclined I am to wait.
Sounds like you have a smart architecture that lets you use the same underlying code on all these platforms. Now how about a finished product that uses that architecture…
DiamondNRG Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 5:34 pm
k3davis … was that post necessary? Please just wait nicely like the other children.
steve Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 5:48 pm
Wow! That's pretty darn awesome. Great job.
k3davis Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 5:57 pm
@Diamond: fair enough I could be the only one who wishes they would get to beta at least before announcing so many other separate alpha projects. Just my opinion, after all.
pnkrkrgeo92 Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 6:10 pm
Trillian 3 went through 121+ builds, I wouldn't be complaining until…let's see…build 300 and still in alpha? But the fact is the program works and works well. I'm even running it in a bad environment called "Windows Vista" and it's not crashing at all.
Rhonabwy » Another IM client for MacOS X - Trillian Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 6:15 pm
[...] I've been using Adium for ages on the Mac, and the closest I found to that on Windows was Trillian and Miranda. I've been using Trillian for ages – and now it seems that Cerulean is porting Trillian to the Mac. [...]
RobotSkirts » Blog Archive » Trillian on the Mac Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 6:16 pm
[...] Trillian on the Mac Very few features and no open beta. The screenshot lacks the compactness I remember from Windows. [via @swirlee] [...]
DiamondNRG Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 6:20 pm
Thats funny, my bad Windows Vista runs 4 times better than my great XP did. I say your hardware sucks or you have it setup wrong.
rickatnight11 Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 6:32 pm
Well I have to say I did NOT expect to see this this evening. Nice advance CS!
Trillian Astra Coming to OSX : Forecast-Blog Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 7:10 pm
[...] Astra, the next version of the popular Windows multi-client chat application Trillian, is being developed for the Mac. Cerulean Studios, the makers of Trillian, has released a limited and experimental Mac version to [...]
kyleabaker Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 7:14 pm
I must also ask for a Linux build! I've recently switched to Ubuntu and have been experimenting with Wine, but I can't seem to get Trillian to work. A port to Linux would be sweet. I'm sure it would become the most widely used messenger client in Linux as it has a lot more to offer than most all other messengers. The only thing is, you'd have to get many more services added to the list. Pidgin (used to be GAIM) supports a lot more services than Trillian: (AIM, Bonjour, Gadu-Gadu, Google Talk, GroupWise, ICQ IRC, MSN, MySpace, QQ, SILC, SIMPLE, XMPP, Yahoo). I would definitely use Trillian in Linux over the others. Two words: Do It.
gizmobits Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 7:21 pm
I second what k3davis said – Astra is great, but both it and 3.1 have their problems. I'd like a stable Astra.
Also repeat the request for a Linux port. I use both Fedora and Ubuntu and would love to not use gaim/pidgin – it's like using an IM client written in 1996. But that can wait for a stable windows release.
Great work, but please focus.
Rachel Blackman Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 7:24 pm
To those saying that this slows things down, in truth it doesn't cause a huge hit. The core is shared between the web, Windows and Mac versions; adding another platform that it actually gets tested on just ensures the code is written cleanly to start with.
The slowdown on Astra getting to beta has been more the overall rearchitecting, which is as much for maintainability as for portability. Splitting things up and rewriting darn near everything makes Trillian itself much, MUCH more maintainable (and much easier to debug, and to performance-tweak), and works into eventual plans for beyond 4.0.
Even without the web or other platforms, the re-architecting pays for itself in terms of code maintenance.
alextheblade Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 7:41 pm
did you hear that "mac dude" is going out with Drew Barrymore?
Brian C. Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 7:52 pm
How soon will the emails come out? I can't wait, sent in my Astra-testing info right away
caletz Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 8:28 pm
WOW! nice… good bye Windows Live messenger ! > the client! good bye adium as well coooool EXxxxcellent guys!!
killmoms Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 9:30 pm
Looking forward to trying this out, especially if A/V is eventually supported. Though, to be fair, I much prefer how Adium can make its buddy list incredibly tiny and unobtrusive—I store it way down in the corner of my screen so I can see it pretty much all the time. I spend way more time in OS X than I do in Windows so… frankly all you Windows users can take a hike.
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October 5th, 2007 at 9:40 pm
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jarkolicious :: Trillian Astra Ported to OSX Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 9:57 pm
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deloreancowboy Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 10:26 pm
wow… that's great news! Can't wait for the Mac version to catch up to the Windows version… I was hoping to get myself a Mac one of these days.
seifip Says:
October 6th, 2007 at 6:59 am
Will there be a Windows Mobile 6 version?
mcdope Says:
October 6th, 2007 at 10:00 am
A Linux Build would be better, at least for me ^^
But anyway: nice to see that you goes multi-platform *thumbsup*
The Distant Librarian Says:
October 6th, 2007 at 10:47 am
Trillian coming to the Mac
hellomoto3485 Says:
October 6th, 2007 at 10:57 am
Hmm, that's funny- if Windows builds are released on friday, why hasn't there been a new one??
Are us Windows users supposed to be so excited for the Mac edition that we completely forget about asking "Where's the new build???"
shanx24 Says:
October 6th, 2007 at 11:06 am
When will there be support for the Skype chat client? That's about 10 million users, if not more.
Trillian chega ao Mac OS X em versão alpha Says:
October 6th, 2007 at 11:54 am
[...] pessoal da Cerulean Studios foi ousado: decidiu vir agora para o mundo Mac com versão alpha do Trillian, o Adium do mundo Windows. Sim, ele veio para brigar com um dos programas mais elogiados (e [...]
BODY-SNATCHER's Blog Says:
October 6th, 2007 at 12:38 pm
Trillian für Mac! Bald auch für Linux?
Gestern wurde bekannt gegeben, dass die Cerulean Studios nun auch eine Mac-Version von Trillian entwickelt. In ihrem Blogpost dazu wird mehrfach betont, dass es sich hierbei nur um die Entwicklung einer Oberfläche handelt und der Kern, der gleic…
velvetgeisha Says:
October 6th, 2007 at 1:00 pm
well this is all nice and good but I wish they would adress some of the issues that the current astra is having… like the fact that I haven't been able to log into astra since well…EVER! Sorry..it's been weeks since I got my invitation email and I still get the same bad password error… and I am not the only one who has this problem and it seems noone is bothering to adress this issue. Yes I know.. this isn't the place to be putting this but where is the place then? I already submitted a bugzilla report (along with allot of others with the same problem) and I even sendt inn a ticket… I can't post in the forums for some strange reason so I can't really submitt there so this is my last option… Sorry if I sound like I am whining but I am just so frustrated.
Salz Says:
October 6th, 2007 at 1:23 pm
What about Beta Testers for Mac? I have a Mac, so i would be proud to test your nice software on mac.
Gordo Says:
October 6th, 2007 at 2:07 pm
Well, I think Skype won't be added soon, because the Skype-protocol is not open and there are some crypting-features, so no messenger supports Skype yet!
I've been asked whether I know a messenger which can deal with ICQ and Skype, but I don't know ANY messenger except the original Skype, which can deal with the Skype-protocol….
Besides, I don't like Apple and I don't like Mac OS X… If there is a version for Mac OS X it doesn't matter to me, but I can just repeat, that I would like a LINUX-Version!!
DiamondNRG Says:
October 6th, 2007 at 3:13 pm
Pidgin list you gave: AIM, Bonjour, Gadu-Gadu, Google Talk, GroupWise, ICQ IRC, MSN, MySpace, QQ, SILC, SIMPLE, XMPP, Yahoo
Trillian list: AIM, Astra, Bonjour, Email, Exchange, Facebook (in progress), GoogleTalk, GroupWise, ICQ, IRC, Jabber, LCS, MSN, MySpace, QQ (in progress), SILC, Skype (remote plugin), XFire, Yahoo
Pidgin: 14
Astra: 17 plus 2 in progress
Again, pidgin sucks.
rickatnight11 Says:
October 6th, 2007 at 4:56 pm
Have you been able to use the online flash-based service?
chris32882 Says:
October 6th, 2007 at 6:16 pm
I must side with what k3davis has said.
kyleabaker Says:
October 6th, 2007 at 6:43 pm
DiamondNRG: Are the other Astra plugins available? I currently only have the basic ones installed. I'm also guessing most of those are for Trillian 3.x and have not been fixed for Astra yet.
jwcom Says:
October 6th, 2007 at 7:49 pm
I will buy Trillian for one reason only on the Mac, Video Chat with other MSN users.
Microosft refuses to do this, and iChat is useless with people on a PC.
I will put my money where my mouth is, you have no idea how important this is.
DtD Says:
October 6th, 2007 at 8:11 pm
I can't wait till there's a Trillian DS! (If Cerulean Studios doesn't make it, I will!)
A Penguin in the Orchard » Blog Archive » Trillian IM client being ported to OS X - private alpha testing begins Says:
October 6th, 2007 at 9:13 pm
[...] it's pretty hard to imagine why they'd bother, Cerulean Studios is porting Trillian, their wildly successful Windows multi-IM client, to OS X. How will Trillian (a commercial product) [...]
Saptarshi Says:
October 7th, 2007 at 2:53 am
Excellent work there guys… I'm sure in the days to come we'll have Linux builds with the same UI. I'm sure its gonna be gr8 to use this rocking IM client in all platforms!!
MacVillage.de » Trillian sieht bei Mac OS X vorbei Says:
October 7th, 2007 at 4:48 am
[...] Cerulian Studios hat im hauseigenen Blog eine Mac OS X Version des Instant Messanger Trillian angekündigt. Die Entwicklung der Software [...]
Trillian für Mac OS X | MellowBox Says:
October 7th, 2007 at 4:56 am
[...] « WiFi Detector Shirt Okt7th Trillian für Mac OS X · No Comments Wie auf dem Trillian-Blog zu lesen ist, wird es in naher Zukunft Trillian auch für den Mac geben. Ob sich das kommerzielle Trillian [...]
MacSlice » Blog Archive » Trillian For Mac coming Says:
October 7th, 2007 at 5:39 am
[...] [Via] [...]
Trillian será portado a Mac OS Says:
October 7th, 2007 at 6:48 am
[...] Los desarrolladores del cliente de mensajería para Windows Trillan están portando esta aplicación para que se pueda instalar en Mac OS. Este desarrollo se encuentra actualmente en fase alpha, pero cualquier valiente se puede apuntar a través del anuncio en su web. [...]
xpankrat Says:
October 7th, 2007 at 6:51 am
Adium is pretty much the de-facto IM client for OS X. Regardless of how it's described, Astra's release is a direct competition call against Adium. Hence the question – how is it better than Adium ? Why would people switch ?
Praecursor.de » Sei anders! Says:
October 7th, 2007 at 8:04 am
[...] Das freut alle. Auch mich. http://blog.ceruleanstudios.com/?p=205 [...]
Trillian Astra comes to the Mac « A tiny blip in the continuum Says:
October 7th, 2007 at 9:23 am
[...] Trillian Astra comes to the Mac Oh, rejoice! Cerulean Studios, the publishers of Trillian, has just announced a port of Trillian Astra to OS X. [...]
Trillian to Mac OS X? | NSLog(); Says:
October 7th, 2007 at 10:54 am
[...] Huh? Why? [...]
soeren says » Blog Archive » Not in a Trillian years Says:
October 7th, 2007 at 11:31 am
[...] And so, I second this apt query in a comment: Adium is pretty much the de-facto IM client for OS X. Regardless of how it's described, Astra's release is a direct competition call against Adium. Hence the question – how is it better than Adium? Why would people switch? [...]
jalefkowit Says:
October 7th, 2007 at 11:56 am
Count me as another underwhelmed user.
For years now there's been a bug in Trillian 3.x Pro where if you use it on more than one machine, changes you make to your buddy list on machine A get thrown out when you log in on machine B. Since I use Trillian on my home and work PCs, this bug effects me. The upshot of the bug is that you can never delete a contact once it's in your buddy list, since when you log in on the other machine, it gets added back by mistake.
This bug has been outstanding for at least four years now (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=48503), and the only fix we have received has been kludgey workarounds and exhortions to "wait for Astra, all these things will be fixed then".
So I signed up to get early access to Astra, which according to this blog I as a paying user of Pro should have been granted no later than the middle of September (http://blog.ceruleanstudios.com/?p=186). Well, it's nearly halfway through October now and I still don't have an Astra invite, despite having signed up for one multiple times over many months. And the bug in Pro still isn't fixed.
The other day I downloaded Pidgin and gave it a try. You know what? It's not as pretty as Trillian, but it works, and buddy lists synchronize just fine across multiple PCs automatically.
I like Trillian. I really really do. I was an early user and paid up happily when the Pro version came out. I evangelized it among all my Windows-using friends.
I can't do that anymore, though. I can't in good conscience continue to recommend Trillian when it's clear that the devs' priorities are so skewed. A Mac client? Really? When there are already plenty of good FREE multi-IM clients for the Mac? And when bugs like the one that bit me sit around for years without getting any attention?
Sorry guys, I think you've lost a customer.
tazdevl Says:
October 7th, 2007 at 12:29 pm
How about we get the windows version out the door before we work on an Apple version? That's where the bulk of your user base is. Let's maintain focus, lock some features instead of adding more and more features that will have marginal utility to most users and release Astra.
I'm glad you're moving onto other challenging projects. However if it dilutes your efforts to satisfy the needs of your current user base, you're alienting the people that enabled you to get to this point by announcing projects like this.
Duke Nukem says what?
Xaos Says:
October 7th, 2007 at 12:55 pm
Haha, good luck.
Btw, you've been dugg:
And every Mac user on digg hates you.
You have to compete with Adium, which is free, awesome, super-lightweight, and used by a ton of users. If I were you I wouldnt waste my time.
Dont get me wrong, personally I love Trillian, especially Astra, but I really dont believe you have a snowballs chance in hell on Mac.
Weekend Reader « Web Worker Daily Says:
October 7th, 2007 at 12:55 pm
[...] Trillian Astra Coming to Mac OS X – Cerulean Studios is finally bringing their fantastic Trillian multi-network IM application to Mac users. Watch out, Adium. Will Mac users want to pay for a cross platform application that can do audio/video as well as text? We'll see. [...]
DiamondNRG Says:
October 7th, 2007 at 3:36 pm
You guys are being ridiculous,
Adium is so low on features compared to what Astra will have when its done, it likely won't even be apple-to-apples. As long as it has to be based on GAIM it stands no chance at ever being as feature rich or customizable. Nobody said Astra on a Mac was already better, but its pretty darn obvious it WILL BE.
And to the guy complaining about not being able to manage contact lists, well it IS FIXED in Astra. Sorry you didn't get your invite, but when you do, you can get rid of that poop known as pidgin.
Empiezan las pruebas de Trillian para Mac OS X Says:
October 7th, 2007 at 3:50 pm
[...] os queréis registrar para el programa de testeo en el blog oficial del programa de Cerulean Studios ofrecen un formulario de [...]
xpankrat Says:
October 7th, 2007 at 4:27 pm
Which features exactly do you miss in Adium ?
Sandman614 Says:
October 7th, 2007 at 4:41 pm
Ichat sucks, Adium has been my fallback and now Trillian is finally crawling in the door. I cannot wait.
Charles Says:
October 7th, 2007 at 5:21 pm
This is ridiculous.
The Scott Report Says:
October 7th, 2007 at 7:31 pm
[...] Trillian coming to Mac Just what we need on the Mac…another IM client. The screenshots look terrible by the way. [...]
tech news blog » Linkpost | 10.7.2007 Says:
October 7th, 2007 at 8:03 pm
[...] Build 1: Think Different — Trillian creates a Mac OS X version of its chat [...]
Trillian'ın Mac sürümü geliyor - Mac Dünyası Says:
October 7th, 2007 at 11:22 pm
[...] sürümü geliyor. Geliştirici Cerulean Studios, resmi blogunda yayımladığı haberle gelişmeyi duyurdu. Yazılım şu anda geliştirme aşamasında ve ilk alfa sürüm henüz çıkmış. Yani halka [...]
Blogdelsamurai.com » Blog Archive » Think different: Trilian en Mac Says:
October 8th, 2007 at 12:14 am
[...] en fase alfa, pero si te gustan las emociones fuertes, puedes probar este mensajero electrónico de cerulean studios que, por lo menos, se ve muy [...]
Trillian: l'Adium di Windows debutta su Os X « APNIBI blog Says:
October 8th, 2007 at 2:26 am
[...] uno dei messenger multiprotocollo più celebri del pianeta Windows: Trillian. La software house ha annunciato una versione alfa del suo messenger per Mac, disponibile ad un gruppo ristretto di utenti. fonte [...]
Lotekz.com » Blog Archive » Trillian Astra Being Ported Over Says:
October 8th, 2007 at 3:58 am
[...] Build 1: Think Different. [...]
Идет разработка Mac-версии Trillian Astra — MacRadar Says:
October 8th, 2007 at 4:00 am
[...] сообщает, что разработчики из Cerulean Studios планируют выпустить Mac-версию Trillian Astra. IM-клиент позволит [...]
the blog of guruz » Trillian bald fuer OS X Says:
October 8th, 2007 at 5:32 am
[...] Mal sehen, vielleicht machen sie ja sogar eine Linux Version, jedenfalls scheint das durch eine Separierung von Core und UI [...]
Trillian Astra, mensajería instantanea para Macen messenger es todo sobre la mensajería instantanea. msn messenger, windows live messenger, programas messenger, messenger adictos, … Says:
October 8th, 2007 at 6:09 am
[...] Los desarrolladores del cliente de mensajería para Windows Trillan están portando esta aplicación para que se pueda instalar en Mac OS. El desarrollo de Trillian Astra se encuentra actualmente en fase alpha, pero cualquiera puede acceder a a esta versión través del anuncio en su web. [...]
MACNOTES.DE » Notizen vom 8.Oktober 2007 Says:
October 8th, 2007 at 7:52 am
[...] Bisher war der Messenger Trillian nur der Windows-Welt vorbehalten, nun gibt es endlich auch eine Version für den Mac. Der Client [...]
SenseiC Says:
October 8th, 2007 at 9:44 am
Has anyone else noticed a problem with group chat w/in MSN? That is to say, I can chat just fine with people… until someone decides to start a group conversation and then I can't type a thing. I end up having to start Windows Live Messenger (which logs me out of the Astra MSN session). Just wondering.
rich_phoenix Says:
October 8th, 2007 at 11:06 am
I know that I haven't received any Email Updates (upon startup) from MSN/Hotmail. If it, indeed, is part of the same problem.
empty.f4ei Says:
October 8th, 2007 at 12:09 pm
How to send an Emotiblip?
I insert some Videos, but I don't know, how to send them.
DiamondNRG Says:
October 8th, 2007 at 12:38 pm
Sensei … I think that is due to a bug that is affecting all "chatrooms". There was a patch made for it to fix build 56, so I would imagine they just forgot to include that patch in build 57 and will likely be included in the next build.
Jared Schwager Says:
October 8th, 2007 at 2:23 pm
Thank you so much for FINALLY porting Trillian to OS X! You have now regained another customer! Not just any either, I'll definitely be upgrading to Pro once again.
I can't wait to test the Mac version!
avianwaves Says:
October 8th, 2007 at 3:53 pm
My god… Every week Trillian Astra gets more feature creep, but further from ever ending "alpha" phase. I have never seen a for-profit company get the Feature Creep Flu so bad. Usually feature creep happens in poorly guided open source products where they just keep adding features and (not wanting to ever declare a "version 1.0″ for fear of production instability) just keep forever incrementing the 0.xx version number. This seems to be what's happening with Trillian Astra. I submitted a alpha test request over a year ago and still haven't gotten a reply. Meanwhile, I downloaded Miranda (yes, a 0.xx "feature creep" product that will probably never be "stable"), a bazillion plugins, and finally have good IM functionality for XP and Vista. (Trillian 3.x is notorious for poorly handling "true" multiple user configurations without manipulating the config files by hand… In contrast, Miranda (and I imagine Trillian Astra) store everything in %appdata% like Microsoft has recommended since 1999!)
So where is my bitch-fest going? When the heck is Cerulean going to decide to stop adding features and just stablize what they already have!? Answer? Probably when I'm so used to Miranda that I don't care about Trillian's new fangled GUI anymore.
DiamondNRG Says:
October 8th, 2007 at 4:32 pm
Well if you don't care anymore then why not be quiet and go away? We all appreciate the features and hard work and will continue to wait even if its another 6 months before beta.
Trillian for Macs Has Arrived Says:
October 8th, 2007 at 5:05 pm
[...] This particular Mac version of Trillian is somewhat pared down for its initial offering, but all the features you're accustomed to on the Windows version will be added into the Mac version in the coming months. Get more info from Cerulean Studios here. [...]
avianwaves Says:
October 8th, 2007 at 5:28 pm
DiamondNRG has a great idea. Don't let anybody speak their mind unless they bow to the almighty developers and their much delayed plans. Even if said fed-up user is a paying customer and/or future paying customer. I'm sure Cerulean's investors would love that attitude.
avianwaves Says:
October 8th, 2007 at 5:36 pm
Incidently, I'm not arguing AGAINST adding features. That's silly. I, like many other Trillian users, want to see Astra's immense feature list capped and the program actually reach Beta and RTM sometime within the next six years. After an initial STABLE Astra, they can work on Astra 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, etc. adding all the whiz-bang features they want and grow their base. That's all I'm asking. Feature Creep leads to delays, missed deadlines, and more bugs, because the developers keep wanting to dedicate time to the "cool new feature of the day" instead of releasing a stable product. Learn a little about software development. Also, I have no idea how Trillian is funded, but I worry if they can't get a stable Astra sometime in the near future, they won't even have money to continue development. I can't imagine an IM getting too incredibly huge of venture capital, but maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Trill 3.x Pro brings in the cash. Shrug. Either way. Feature Creep is FRUSTRATING.
DiamondNRG Says:
October 8th, 2007 at 6:04 pm
Did they give you a release date? How is it a missed deadline then?
Why don't you learn a little about running a business. It is their company, their product, you can voice your opinion all you want, but why not do it in a less demeaning way eh?
Comienzas las pruebas de Trillian para Mac OS X en fase alpha en Mundo Mac Says:
October 8th, 2007 at 6:36 pm
[...] Mas información | Cerulean Studios [...]
Pak-Kei Mak Says:
October 8th, 2007 at 7:20 pm
avianwaves: It was not untrue that there was a feature creep going on in the beginning of the development cycle. But ever since the announcement of Trillian Astra last December, we were pretty cleaned up, in my opinion. There is definitely a clear set of features to be completed by launch, and it's not like we add it when we like. There are only three key things, Profile, Audio/Video and Wizard, left before we are out of alpha.
DiamondNRG Says:
October 8th, 2007 at 10:12 pm
Wizard? Sounds interesting Kid… For importing contacts or something?
hemmerich Says:
October 9th, 2007 at 3:34 am
@Pak-Kei Mak: i hope there is one more thing to accomplish before leaving alpha: get astra working with proxies! i cannot get a single protocol to work using a proxy. this was working really well in trillian 3.1 and i hope it will be soon in astra.
i am sitting 8 hours a day in my company and i cannot use trillian astra because the only way out ist with a proxy. i like astra already. looks great and makes almost no errors. but when i can't use it soon all day i have to watch out for alternatives…
Pak-Kei Mak Says:
October 9th, 2007 at 9:36 am
hemmerich: The proxy feature is already there. So if it doesn't work for you, it's a bug, and they can be fixed in beta. If you have trouble finding a feature, feel free to post in our forums.
Mac版Trillian来了 | mashableCN Says:
October 9th, 2007 at 9:54 am
[...] 更多信息看这里 [...]
Trillian on the Mac « Pete's Blog Says:
October 9th, 2007 at 1:12 pm
[...] it is the best chat app I've found on the Mac. But it seems Trillian is set to come to the mac read about it here [...]
Trillian on the Mac Says:
October 9th, 2007 at 1:14 pm
[...] it is the best chat app I've found on the Mac. But it seems Trillian is set to come to the mac read about it here [...]
xxdesmus Says:
October 9th, 2007 at 2:16 pm
Not to be totally negative, but a Mac version of Trillian is going to fail miserably. No one is going to pay for an IM app when Adium destroys all other competitors for free. Unless Trillian is full skinnable (like Adium), free (like Adium), and has a huge modding community (like Adium) it will fail. I don't mean to be negative, but it's the sad truth
You guys should spend more time on the Windows version, and less time wasting your time and effort by trying to break into the Mac market. It's not going to work out well for anyone. You're going to be split over 2 platforms, and both will be sub-par applications. Instead, you focus on making the Windows version better because you're already in for a battle with Pidgin, AIM, WLM, and gTalk clients.
Trillian disponible pour Mac OS X Says:
October 9th, 2007 at 3:54 pm
[...] Plus d'infos de Cerulean Studios ici. [...]
DiamondNRG Says:
October 9th, 2007 at 6:37 pm
xxdesmus, you were born negative. We all know that.
And do you think they will not offer the Basic version? How quick you are to jump to conclusions you know nothing about.
And yeah, heaven forbid it lets Mac users do A/V … heaven forbid that, they might just like it.
And by the way, AIM, WLM, and GoogleTalk are not competition to Trillian. People use Trillian because they have accounts on multiple services, and those clients don't help (much) with that.
Tiakumosan Says:
October 9th, 2007 at 8:00 pm
That's great. When I switched to mac from PC one of the softwares I missed was Trillian (I'm currently using Adium in macosx), but can't wait to use Trilian again!
Lukwam · Twitter Updates for 2007-10-09 Says:
October 10th, 2007 at 12:02 am
[...] Trillian for OS X be the Adium-killer? http://blog.ceruleanstudios.com/?p=205 [...]
Eolirin Says:
October 10th, 2007 at 12:38 am
Jeeze, does no one actually *read* what they're saying when they make posts? All of this complaining about the OSX client hampering the Windows client or somehow severely slowing down the Windows release is completely ignoring the fact that all this really is… is a modifed version of the UI. The core techs are all the same, so there's no splitting resources in anything other than the relatively mild amount of work needed to actually get the UI to display properly under OSX. If the core parts of Astra are sufficiently modular the technical issues should be pretty minor all things considered… and it certainly doesn't significantly slow down the development of the core modules, especially if they have separate programmers working on it. The bugs in the core are going to affect all of the clients equally, so they're *still* things that need to be prioritized exactly the same. They went for a highly modular design, which is what they have been saying for a long time now… so how many UIs they make is pretty irrelevant. They all *work* the same under the hood. The level of support you have for UI specific bugs though, *can* be impacted, but honestly… the Windows client for Astra doesn't have many of those anyway… almost all of the remaining issues in Astra that I've come up against are more of the 'core technology' type issues.
AppleIQ » Blog Archive » Trillian is coming to the Mac Says:
October 10th, 2007 at 12:47 am
[...] makers of Trillian, Cerulean Studios, has announced that a Mac version of Trillian is on its way to Mac OS X users everywhere. This program could be a challenger to iChat unless [...]
Free & Fast Software Downloads and Software Reviews - tinkuri.com Says:
October 10th, 2007 at 1:11 am
[...] Studios announced Friday that Trillian is coming to Mac OS X. The company is quick to point out its previous statement from last year, "We will never port [...]
olmari Says:
October 10th, 2007 at 3:16 am
I'm also voting for Linux version too. Pretty please =)
Trillian for Mac, and Macs Freeze? at Sean's Blog Says:
October 10th, 2007 at 4:09 am
[...] Trillian will be coming to Mac soon! Of course it will be minimal compared to Trillian for Windows for a while, but still, nice to see something decide to go Mac! Read more here. [...]
IM Watch: Social Networks Expand Presence of IM « Nova Scotia Girl Says:
October 10th, 2007 at 6:31 am
[...] news to the Mac, Trillian developers have finally announced a long-awaited version for the Mac. In a new blog update, Trillian developers announced that the OS X version of Trillian is not simply an OS X port, but [...]
avianwaves Says:
October 10th, 2007 at 9:13 am
"Jeeze, does no one actually *read* what they're saying when they make posts? All of this complaining about the OSX client hampering the Windows client or somehow severely slowing down the Windows release is completely ignoring the fact that all this really is… is a modifed version of the UI."
Apparently programming a UI from scratch requires no developer time. Amazing. And apparently porting (oh, sorry, it's not a "port" it's just a recompile that works on another platform — wait, isn't that a port?) the underlying layer requires no developer overhead too! Amazing!
I want to know their magic secret for creating new things in zero time. That's incredible.
avianwaves Says:
October 10th, 2007 at 9:14 am
typo: "underlying layer" should read "underlying engine"
avianwaves Says:
October 10th, 2007 at 9:19 am
"Did they give you a release date? How is it a missed deadline then?"
"Why don't you learn a little about running a business. It is their company, their product, you can voice your opinion all you want, but why not do it in a less demeaning way eh?"
Customers (especially paying) are demanding creatures — imagine that.
DiamondNRG Says:
October 10th, 2007 at 12:36 pm
Yeah, but when demands turn to whining, you look stupid. If you to post "hurry up" then do so, but beyond that to just blatantly attacking them is pathetic.
joeschaffer.com » Trillian comes to Mac! Says:
October 10th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
[...] More info here! Share and Enjoy: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]
rich_phoenix Says:
October 10th, 2007 at 6:50 pm
>>DiamondNRG Says: October 6th, 2007 at 3:13 pm
>>Trillian list: AIM, Astra…….
Forgot one, IMVU plugin is still available
>>olmari Says: October 10th, 2007 at 3:16 am
>>I'm also voting for Linux version too. Pretty please =)
hmm…maybe a blog could be made somewhere for Trillinux
What do you think, LowSNR? *grin*
DiamondNRG Says:
October 10th, 2007 at 8:55 pm
Trinix works too
And yeah, IMVU, forgot about that.
Trillian Astra headed to Mac OS X Says:
October 11th, 2007 at 12:13 am
[...] Studios, the makers of Trillian, decided to drop a "bomb" all of a sudden and announced that their upcoming version 4 of Trillian, codenamed Astra, will also [...]
Trillian Astra headed to Mac OS X | Technology Funda Says:
October 11th, 2007 at 2:30 am
[...] Studios, the makers of Trillian, decided to drop a "bomb" all of a sudden and announced that their upcoming version 4 of Trillian, codenamed Astra, will also [...]
apple » Blog Archive » Trillian IM client being ported to OS X - private alpha testing begins Says:
October 11th, 2007 at 12:53 pm
[...] it's pretty hard to imagine why they'd bother, Cerulean Studios is porting Trillian, their wildly successful Windows multi-IM client, to OS X. How will Trillian (a commercial product) [...]
Trillian IM client being ported to OS X - private alpha testing begins Says:
October 11th, 2007 at 1:22 pm
[...] it's pretty hard to imagine why they'd bother, Cerulean Studios is porting Trillian, their wildly successful Windows multi-IM client, to OS X. How will Trillian (a commercial product) [...]
Trillian comes to the Mac : BOSS logic Says:
October 11th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
[...] at the office pointed me to this announcement about Trillian coming out on Mac OS/X. Frankly, I was a bit shocked to find that someone with a Windows machine found out before I [...]
Podcast Episode Three at Sean's Blog Says:
October 11th, 2007 at 7:09 pm
[...] Trillian coming for Mac! READ [...]
GuiM.fr Says:
October 13th, 2007 at 7:18 am
Trillian Astra pour Mac OS X et pour iPhone
Trillian, le logiciel de messagerie instantannée multi-plateforme pour Windows débarque sur mac et risque de faire de l'ombre au bien-installé, et néanmoins excellent Adium… Nommée Trillian Astra, et actuellement en version alpha privée, cette…
MACNOTES.DE » Die Woche (KW 41) Says:
October 14th, 2007 at 1:07 pm
[...] kleine Premiere feierte diese Woche der Chat-Client Trillian. Bisher war dieses Multitalent nur der Windows-Welt vorbehalten – jetzt gibt es den Messenger auch [...]
Digital-Mayham Says:
October 15th, 2007 at 7:43 pm
Okay I submitted my interest in the Mac OS Trillian Astra beta the day they posted this blog and on I go this email back
"Thanks for signing up to test the first Mac version of Trillian Astra!
This note is to let you know that your information has been received and
your name is on the list. You should be receiving an email sometime
this week letting you know what to do from here.
Thanks again!
Cerulean Studios"
A week has gone and past and still no email with any information… whats going on?
I am not George Says:
October 17th, 2007 at 12:34 am
[...] maybe you also know that Trillian Astra is also ported to Mac osX (at last!) and… [...]
Trillian ported to Mac… Linux next? at Auto Ignition Says:
October 17th, 2007 at 4:19 pm
[...] Cerulean Studio's blog post on their latest [...]
IRC News » Trillian alpha released for Mac OS X Says:
October 19th, 2007 at 4:03 pm
[...] all in one famous Trillian was ported for the Mac OS X it's creators Cerulean Studios reported on Friday. For those who [...]
The blog of Zaugg : I, for one, welcome our Leopard overlords. Says:
October 27th, 2007 at 4:00 am
[...] had in OS X. Okay, except I still hate iChat. Adium isn't bad, but how much longer for Trillian Astra, guys? And that desktop background – ick, it was the first thing to go.I obviously haven't [...]
graficus Says:
November 13th, 2007 at 4:12 pm
Please hurry up with OSX version.
I don't like the chunky look tho, at least keep version 2 whistler slim skin available!
阅读推荐(2007.10.07) | iLoveMac.cn Says:
November 29th, 2007 at 11:39 am
[...] Trillian IM正在移植到Mac平台 很多人对Trillian [...]
Trillian for OS X | this is mikel.org Says:
November 29th, 2007 at 2:48 pm
[...] 7th, 2007 | IM • Internet • Macintosh Cerulean Studios have announced an alpha version of Trillian for the Mac, which they have gone out of their way to clarify is not a port but an entirely distinct dev [...]
upstaked Says:
December 21st, 2007 at 7:12 am
Since you brag about rewriting it from scratch, why not choose something cross-platform for the UI? How many orders of magnitude does a Qt4 license cost less than porting code across MFC and Cocoa?
Qt would've also helped you get closer to a linux release… Trillian is one of the few pieces of software I'd pay for to have on Linux, and you must know by now there's lots of people feeling this way. You are losing market share, and have been for a while. Although your late getting-to-OSX is finally a smart move, it's just not smart enough.
But don't mind, just keep it like that! It only takes enough frustrated users to improve Pidgin and Kopete until they spill over into your WindowsOSXish back yard and pose some serious competition. Prepare for *that* loss of revenue.
Devioux Says:
January 2nd, 2008 at 4:30 am
Now we seriously need Trillian Astra for Linux.
Best MSN Messenger Client for a Mac - eXceem Says:
January 26th, 2008 at 11:17 am
[...] Best MSN Messenger Client for a Mac Hopefully Trillian for Mac should be out soon!! __________________ To all those who have received a freebie: "Go [...]
TxDub84 Says:
February 16th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Hello All, This is Brick (TxDub84) again
Last time I Left a Post here I suggested something for the programmers of trillion Astra, & complimented the software greatly
Same as last time, I want to say I am still really enjoying Trillian Astra, & to those who don't have it I would recommend Buying Trillian Pro because u have many more advanced features from the plug ins you can't access with Basic Trillian or Trillian Astra, even though both are great products & I Highly recommend Astra because it supposed to eventually work with Skype & is now combatable with Google Talk Messaging & as well as MSN, Yahoo, AOL/AIM, ICQ, & Myspace Messengers
Note to Designers & Programmers' of Trillian Astra:
1#) – the Add me button for MSN/Myspace IM/ & Yahoo boot me off Trillian every time I use it… I have uninstalled, reinstalled, & even delete the Trillian folder from "Programs under C Disk Hard Drive & it continues to act up &boot me off unless I actually log into Yahoo, MSN, or Myspace Messengers & Add the person from there… Also I am sure you know the Plug-In for Skylian doesn't work, in fact all it does is crash Trillian every time it starts up, but also now, the Yahoo & MSN Voice feature isn't working with Build 18.104.22.168.1, thought I'd add that, just so yawl know
2#) – It would also be Very Impressive if Trillian Partnered with an unlimited Online storage site such as http://www.omnidrive.com which is highly recommended by http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/31/the-online-storage-gang & maybe even an unlimited Media playlist site such as http://www.Playlist.com or even better http://www.Imeem.com which is better cause its just 1 playlist with all your media needs & not just music all in 1 place that is combatable with sites such as Myspace, My Yearbook & other social networking sites u will find at http://www.mashable.com
3#) – The I would like to maybe see Trillian have an Address book & Organizer later on down the line… maybe with the Email Anti Spam Security of Gmail… the Online Viral Scan of Yahoo from Norton's or even better possibly Ewido which is highly recommended for online security infection removal scans by Microsoft, & the Address Book of either yahoo for all the possibly contacts you can think of or a partnership with http://www.Plaxo.com
P.S. I still think from my last Posting, it would be nice Trillian could have either a New Plug-In of Upgrade software that enables access to AOL Chartrooms through running a similar software such as AOL Desktop (I use this to gain access to AOL Chat rooms without even being logged into AOL simply by having it installed on my computer) or Yahaven which allows access to yahoo chartrooms with even more advanced settings then yahoo has making it completely unbootable & impervious to Bots as it Automatically hides them so u don't see them in chat… http://www.yahaven.net or even access to ICQ chat, & maybe Myspace IM Chat rooms from http://www.userplane.com/ If Trillian could have access to these features I have no doubt it would become the new Number One Universal & Revolutionary ALL Purpose chat messenger
Five Best Instant Messengers [Hive Five] » Lifehacker, tips and downloads for getting things done Says:
April 3rd, 2008 at 1:00 pm
[...] it continue to place all of their IM trust to Trillian. In the future, Trillian is also promising a Mac release along with an iPhone version, so it may have plenty of life in it [...]
Five Best Instant Messengers [Hive Five] · TechBlogger Says:
April 3rd, 2008 at 1:25 pm
[...] it continue to place all of their IM trust to Trillian. In the future, Trillian is also promising a Mac release along with an iPhone version, so it may have plenty of life in it [...]
Some things will always be difficult at No-Rights Productions Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 3:24 am
[...] to use nudge/buzz, meh. Surprisingly I just found out right as I'm writing this post that Trillian is offering an OS X version. I may have to check that out.) And speaking of Yahoo Messenger, it bothers me that their Mac [...]
Some things will always be difficult at Ben's Blog Says:
April 16th, 2008 at 9:09 pm
[...] to use nudge/buzz, meh. Surprisingly I just found out right as I'm writing this post that Trillian is offering an OS X version. I may have to check that out.) And speaking of Yahoo Messenger, it bothers me that their Mac [...]
kevinsgill Says:
April 23rd, 2008 at 9:22 am
Any updates on the Trillian for Mac. I have not heard any updates/news on what is going on with Trillian for Mac. Anyone heard anything on this. Any update would be nice. Anxiously waiting for this.
ferricoxide Says:
November 1st, 2008 at 3:46 pm
So, is this project dead? I mean, it's been in some sort of "in progress" state for over a year and is *still* being listed as "private alpha" on the main page (same with Astra, in general, it seems).
brino Says:
November 16th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
it is nice but whet do I can start useing it on my mac I dont see where I can download it
Best Instant Messenger Client | Online Project Management and Collaboration Blog Says:
December 5th, 2008 at 4:24 am
[...] just recently they released a beta version. Non the less it is still promising and they promised a MAC and iPhone releases as well, just keeps me wondering how long it will take them [...]
Best Instant Messenger Client « Online Project Management Blog Says:
December 5th, 2008 at 4:25 am
[...] just recently they released a beta version. Non the less it is still promising and they promised a MAC and iPhone releases as well, just keeps me wondering how long it will take them [...]
Kevin Says:
December 23rd, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Hello all "Trillianates"…!!! Happy Holidays to the CS team and Trillian users out there. I am still wondering and trying to find out when is a download going to be available for Trillian for OS X. I've been waiting for this release for about a year now and the project has been kinda in silent development mode. Any date… team CS. Please any update on OS X version would be appreciated. I can't wait to try the "Alpha" or "Beta".
kc9hej Says:
January 29th, 2009 at 11:47 am
I can't wait to get this and dump virtual pc for good
iksg Says:
February 10th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
I am actually starting to give up hope on this product. I've been a Trillian user for a long time and would really like some update on the Mac version. It's been a long wait without any updates or anything on this topic. I know that the CS team is more focused on the "Widows" version but at least put out some type of update on the Mac version. I don't even think that anyone from the team actually reads this section at all. Common guys…. any update.
iksg Says:
March 12th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Can anyone provide us an update on this…. please…..
Five Best Instant Messengers | Lifehacker Australia Says:
April 8th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
[...] it continue to place all of their IM trust to Trillian. In the future, Trillian is also promising a Mac release along with an iPhone version, so it may have plenty of life in it [...]
FireFish Says:
April 12th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
This is great. I've actually been drooling over this very same screenshot for months. How soon do you think we'll be getting an Astra build for Mac OS X to play with ?
iksg Says:
April 13th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Any updates on the Mac version of Trillian. At least something…. even an Alpha update…!!! Please update team CS. Give us Mac users something to look forward too.
riddlz Says:
June 9th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
When I went to login to my trillian tonight.. a special message came up saying there was a new version of Trillian! I WAS EXCITED!!! Though it was beta I'm okay with that.. I've run on beta programs many time including one's i've done myself! Well… I'm displeased because I can't even login because I keep getting an error password incorrect… I even had to create an account here to post this thread! My question is… is the old information being carried over? Or is this something that's all brand new? If so… I'm hoping my Pro will at least carry over… if not.. then you'll be losing a customer to something else that's free. I paid the price years ago in hopes to see new development like we just got here… and I'm also finding out it was in 2007 when it was being passed around… did I hear about it? Nope! and it's now 2009.
Trillian kommt fürs iPhone » bardiir.net Says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:42 am
[...] iPhone kommen soll. Gleichzeitig hab ich auch gesehen, dass eine entsprechende Entwicklung für Mac OS X [...]
hexzero Says:
July 16th, 2009 at 9:50 am
Just making sure that the OSX thread doesn't die off. Many users out here can't wait for the iPhone release, since some implied the Mac version may follow shortly after.
neerajaiet Says:
September 18th, 2009 at 1:17 am
Thanks for great post.
anandxsharma Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
My Triallian astra is not connecting with any other messenger except google at work even i put right proxy inforation. The old trillian-v220.127.116.11 is able to connect with yahoo , msn , aol at work.
Can some body had idea how I connected Triallinan Astra for Yahoo and MSN.
Paul Driscoll Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 4:41 pm
So, does it really take over two years guys? Come on OSX Snow Leopard is upon us – why aren't you?!
Deric Scott Says:
October 11th, 2009 at 7:12 am
I was half hoping that after Snow Leopard was officially released, there would be a statement released here to the effect of "We at Cerulean Studios decided in the spring that it made more sense to target Snow Leopard rather than Leopard for the port of Trillian. Now that Snow Leopard is shipping, we are happy to announce the beta testing of Trillian Astra for OS X 0.6″.
I guess it was just a wish. I am more than a bit disappointed there has been no news on this front in a VERY long time. I have waited quite a while for the release, and am now starting to think it may not really happen after all – it has now been over 2 years since the "announcement" that started this thread.
Rachel Blackman Says:
October 11th, 2009 at 11:57 am
There's actually been updates on the process posted on the Forums fairly regularly recently. Just that there's not been anything 'sexy' enough for a Blog post. Do expect announcements soon, though.
jon Says:
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:05 am
Trillian is already out of date before its release..
Likkie Says:
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:30 pm
I give up!
Ryan Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
Yep, I agree… Pathetic… I've been waiting, and waiting patiently for a mac version of Astra and it looks like time to move on. I've got Beejive on the iphone. My guess is, this will never happen. Ichat and Google Talk work anyways.
Dan Says:
November 18th, 2009 at 6:04 am
Promises, promises, promises… It really feels like Cerulean are just not serious about Mac/iPhone dev. Happy for them to blame Apple for the delays in the iPhone version, but the Mac version should really be here by now. C'mon guys, I've been a long time proponent of Trillian, but the faith is waning!
Pyrofallout Says:
November 18th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
Was very exited to search the AppStore this evening and be able to download Trillian for iPhone for 4.99 which I gladly paid, the app works wonderfully and the only piece of the puzzle missing is Trillian for OSX. Now I could be wrong, but from what I can see we still have had almost no word at all on the OSX version even though we were told we would receive a update (which was supposed to happen last December if my memory serves correctly).
Is it in any way possible for someone over their at Cerulean to throw us Mac users a bone and at least give us some type of update on the progress?
I gladly purchased Trillian Astra upon it's release, and gladly purchased Trillian for iPhone upon it's release tonight. We were told way back when that once Astra was officially released the OSX and iPhone ports would be seeing much more attention. All I am asking for is some sort of a sign that Trillian Astra for Mac may one day actually exist in the near future. Please Cerulean? Pretty pretty please?
Lord Osxual Says:
November 21st, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Okay Apple says yay to the iphone/pod app that has some kinks to work out, CS hasbeen flooded with them so I'm sure we can expect a fix soon for us phone/pod users who graced this app with the 5 bucks.
Cerulean, It is time to say something to put us macheads at rest about the OS X version. Was it being worked on while you were waiting for the iphone version? Does Apple have to approve of this one too? We need something official. I want something official, not jsut what is based in a forum. Minds must be put at rest.
Grace us, Oh Cerulean! Let all the macbrothers and macsisters raise their hands and go AMEN! Astra for MAC is risen! AMEN!
Stephane Cote Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 9:25 am
Lets see, this was originally posted on Oct 2007… we are in nov 2009.. over 2 years ago, and you guys dont even have a 1 public build? OMG. I wonder where my money for the registration went…. im on mac now.. i need a trillian for mac.
Sam Says:
November 27th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
It'll be awesome, when it comes out.
Virginia Cruz Says:
November 28th, 2009 at 8:55 am
Hi, I heard about Trillian not long ago when I was looking for a multi-platform instant messaging that supported Messenger as well as Skype. I got very excited at first when, after registration, I could choose to add Messenger, Skype, Google Talk, etc.
Straight to the point: Skype doesn´t work. I was prompted to enter my username, but there seems to be no option to enter a password. When I check the connection status it says ´Connecting Skype as ´my username´´, but nothing happens.
I don´t have any problems with Google Talk or Messenger but if I can´t use it for Skype as well then Trillian Astra is useless for me.
Any comments or news updates on this matter will be appreciated.
Jan Schoenfelder Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Hi there,
after more than 2 years and still not a sign of a release. It is a shame. It seems that you guys either lost your one and only MAC programmer or you're just not interested in the MAC platform at all. With a market share of more than 5% it should be worth to develop that piece of SW further. Btw, MAC user tend and are willing to pay more for their SW than PC users.
Think about it, especially when it should be soooo easy to port as you have described.
andriy Says:
December 8th, 2009 at 9:15 am
there isn't an all encompassing client that provides video chat on mac. if this works i'll pay the 30$
Jules Says:
December 8th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
No news on if this happening?
There is clearly a market for this product, but will it appear?
Michael Toler Says:
December 12th, 2009 at 9:31 am
I used to say this will be great "when" it comes out, but now I say "if"? I used the Windows version and loved it, so I was thrilled that a mac version was under development. But it hasn't come yet. I'm beginning to doubt it will. There's an iPhone app now. Has anyone tried it?
Ryan Says:
December 13th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
I've been waiting for quite some time for the Mac OS X version… I sure hope they are getting all of the details correct! I understand the desire for the iphone client, but I would think sales of the iphone version would be driven further if the Mac client was out first.
Hoping it isn't another two years. Heck, I am worried Apple will change to a new version and foul things up before they get the X version out the door to us Mac users.
El Chipo Says:
December 19th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
I am currently at the point that I WILL not buy Trillian for Mac even if it will be out someday because of the non-existing news about it. They made an iPhone-App to increase sales not becuase the iPhone world would love it. Teh Mac market is too small to support it.
I loved Trillian on Windows but I will stick to Adium which is not the worst client at all.
I am really pissed!
t Says:
January 3rd, 2010 at 1:18 pm
This is sad. Really sad. Putting a long-promised Mac version on hold simply because the iPhone version would be more competitive shows the lack of respect toward possible clients (yes, the Mac users).
JeighLG Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 10:31 am
I'm with you, t. Long-time PC/Trillian user, switched to Mac 2 years ago. Was excited to see Trillian 'in development' back then…thinking (silly me) that with all the fast development Cerulean did with the PC version, Mac would be forthcoming within months. Hearing that the iPhone took precedence is not only disheartening, its off-putting. I think I'm going to boycott Trillian from here on out. I have both PC and Mac now. Am switching to another client for the PC. Will suggest same to friends and family. Too bad…they had such potential.
Stephane Cote Says:
January 8th, 2010 at 11:24 am
Due to lack of suppose I…
1. Uninstalled every instance of Trillian on all my home PC's
2. Removed the app from my iphone (and regret spending the money purchasing it, i will keep using beejive)
3. will not purchase any new verison released (MAC or PC)
4. Forever regret spending 10$ to update my licence 2 months ago
5. Download another IM client (there are plenty out there)
6. Stop promoting Trillian to all my friends like i have been doing in the past
Shame that even after 2 years, they don't even have a 'beta' out. if the mac project is dead.. just says so.
Orrin Says:
January 9th, 2010 at 2:50 am
I have been with Trillian Astra for a long time. I've supported Trillian by telling my friends and using it left and right. I needed the mac version 2 years ago and have been waiting.
The wait is over. I finally made the switch to Adium and will take the sacrifices, which are small, just to have stability in my life. I will never buy a mac version.
Paul Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 5:39 am
I've just noticed these posts started in 2007! What a farce!
I mistakenly bought the iPhone version as I thought they would all work ncely together, iPhone, PC and Mac.
Dream on!
James Anderson Says:
January 15th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Adium is kicking your butt. It runs great on my mac and has for awhile.
Lars Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 5:51 am
What a rip-off first you promise the mac users: 'we are working on it blablaba'. And now after two years I'm still using Adium. From this day I will not visit your stupid blog anymore and I will spread the news about the arrogance of Cerulean Studio's. And I will not install it on my Iphone either. You can kiss my white ass, turn your back on the community and you're going down son.
Paul Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Just had another thought. The whole name of this package, Trillian Astra is a Douglas Adams Hitchhikers guide to teh Galaxy character, and Douglas was a long time Apple fanatic, he would turn in his grave if he knew you still two years later had not released a Mac version!
Mark Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
When Trillian first came out, I was a huge fan, purchasing the software and upgrading as new features became available. When the Intel MAC became available, I purchased a MacBook Pro and have not looked back. Today, I checked in to see if the promises about Trillian for the MAC had come to fruition and am disappointed to find out that there is nothing but a screen shot. Oh well, other applications continue to improve and fill the void.
Aaron Says:
January 20th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Guys, don't get discouraged. I have the iphone and the windows version and I'm doing great. A Mac OSX version would be great and I'm still with hopes that you'll have some time to work on it. Best of luck.
smw Says:
January 20th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Aaron, thanks for the encouraging note. We'll have an update on the OSX port soon!
Gabe Johnston Says:
January 20th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
What a complete joke. Over two years, and nothing. If I had to guess, I'd say you are NOT EVEN WORKING ON THE MAC VERSION. Pathetic.
Also, it's simply "Trillian" in Hitchhiker's Guide, not "Trillian Astra".
Kevin Says:
January 24th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
I've been a Trillian user for a long long time and have been loving it. Got the Astra for Windows and iPhone as well. Thanks Team CS for all your hard work and dedication. Even though the Mac users like myself have not heard any recent updates on the Mac version of Trillian, I still have faith in Team CS. Keep up the good work and hopefully we'll see the Mac version sooner or later. Thanks again….. Team CS.
chadatsb Says:
January 26th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
I am using Trillian Astra as chadatsb, I would love to test the Mac version on Snow Leopard. Thanks.
bob Says:
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:43 pm
the bug in the contact list is not yet solved. still exist up to now. just downloaded the astra yesterday.
Michal Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 5:35 am
It looks great! One think for me that is disqualifying this communicator is no support for gadu-gadu and nasza klasa. The question is when the will implement this support or if they plan to do it or no, because all the polish market is waiting for that. Regards.
CrazyMindstorm Says:
August 6th, 2010 at 10:27 am
please port it to linux
Daniele Curto Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:58 am
Astra for linux !


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Parma man suing Parma police, fire, EMS for Aug. 2013 tasing incident
PARMA, Ohio - A Parma man is suing the city of Parma and Parma first responders after he said he was injured and tased 12 separate times after experiencing a seizure last year.
According to the lawsuit, Richard Pettry began having seizures to the point where he could no longer speak Aug. 1, 2013. Pettry's niece called 911 for the seizures and two EMS responders from the Parma Fire Department arrived on scene at 10:01 p.m.
[CLICK HERE to read the entire lawsuit.]
By the time the two responders reached Pettry, the seizures ceased. At this point, the seizures caused Pettry to become disoriented and confused.
According to the lawsuit, when Pettry stood up on his bed, the two responders tackled him onto the ground.
At 10:08 p.m., four additional Parma fire and EMS responders were at the Pettry home helping restrain Pettry on the floor of his bedroom.
It was at this time when officer Gary Kuchler used his taser on Pettry 12 separate times.
The suit states that first responders believed the man was using drugs at the time of the incident.

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Fat Tuesday is not just for the New Orleans party crowd anymore. Mardi Gras is touted as the final celebration before Lent. The traditions of eating desserts, drinking too much, and throwing beads are lots of fun, but not very green!
When planning the food, purchase locally. Unfortunately, it is a little early for the farmers markets in the Kansas City area. Consider shopping for your King Cake ingredients at Green Acres Market, 4175 Mulberry Drive in Kansas City. The store's dedication to providing families foods free of chemicals and pesticides aligns the store's mission with the ideals of green parents.
You may want to make something other than the traditional King Cake. Overland Park's Baking Examiner Angela Pritchett suggests making beignets in her article, "Baked beignets for your Mardi Gras." Consider searching for organic ingredients to capture the flavor of the French Quarter with a green touch.
If you choose to have drinks at your party--or after putting the children to bed--consider an organic wine. Randy Caparoso, the Denver Wine Examiner, has dozens of suggestions. If selecting wine is not your forte, or if you need organic wine suggestions, check out Randy's Organic Wine Matches of the Day.
If you attend a party this year, bring your empty bottles or cans home to recycle.
Finally, the beads. This used to be a New Orleans tradition, but has spread all over, even invading my office. (Some kind coworker left beads on my desk today.) Instead of tossing them in the trash, find something fun to do with them. Here are a few suggestions:
- Give them to a little girl for costume jewelry
- Toss them in with the Christmas stuff. String them together to make garland in December.
- Put them away and re-gift them on Fat Tuesday 2011
- Save them to add to goodie bags for children's birthday parties
- Pull the green ones out for St. Patrick's Day
Please add more Mardi Gras sustainability suggestions with a comment!
Every holiday can be a day to celebrate sustainability and family. Happy Fat Tuesday!


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This US rock band was formed in 1979 by the four surviving members of the 1977 Lynyrd Skynyrd plane crash; Gary Rossington (guitars), Allen Collins (guitars), Billy Powell (keyboards) and Leon Wilkeson (bass), who joined with Dale Krantz (vocals), Barry Harwood (guitars) and Derek Hess (drums). They continued in the best traditions of Skynyrd, though the female lead vocals gave them a different sound. They broke up in 1983 after just two albums. Powell later joined the Christian rock band Vision, while Collins was paralyzed from the waist down in a car accident in the mid-80s, and died of pneumonia on 23 January 1990. Krantz married Rossington and both they and Powell took their places in the Lynyrd Skynyrd reunion tour of 1987.
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This is my second Test with the RealFlow 2014 Beta test, I got asked my Next Limit and got the amazing opportunity to be able to test the Alpha and now Beta of RealFlow 2014.
Recently added to the Beta is a new Daemon all new for RF2014, the ocean force Daemon. Using this with Hybrido you get a Ocean Plane which is a lot like RealWave, you then put your ocean settings in and scale up the ocean plane to match your sim then once the sim is running it creates the waves in the particles themselves. Very Awesome a lot like the Wave Tank in Houdini. This is great for doing anything from to a Ship in Stormy seas all the way to calm seas and having interaction with the particle waves.
The Ocean Plane in the Viewport^
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I ended up keyframing the waves to get stronger throughout the 150Frames. The Lighthouse and rock was actully a late idea, initially I was going to just do the ocean by itself however that was boring! So I modelled the Lighthouse in Max and re sim'd the whole sim to have the interaction.
Next was working on the Secondar, I started with the standard Liquid SPH Splash and foam pass, this sim is mainly visible for the foam on the surface of the ocean, also the splash interaction of the rock. Next using a new feature of Realflow 2014 was the FLIP Splash sim, to get a nicer looking Splash pass from this FLIP sim I used lower gravity to keep the splash particles in the air longer, also a very high emission rate but then a low varied lifespan, this worked really well I think and will be using this technique in future sims to create more realistic Large scale splash sims.
Krakatoa Render of the FLIP Splash Pass, You Can See the Above technique works well
The Meshing of the Core Fluid Hybrido Particles was done in RealFlow with the improved meshing tools, I manage to get all the wave details in the mesh however back in 3DS Max I did add some more Displacemen with HOT.
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Using HOT to Enhance the Mesh, But The RF Mesh Looks Very Good Itself
The Rendering was done in V-Ray for the Mesh and Lighthouse Geo, the Splash&Foam FLIP and SPH were rendered in Krakatoa. Comp was done in After Effects, where the search light was added, just a solid with some noise of and low opacity fast blur and a lens flare.


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Idaho Statutes
18-6101. Rape defined. Rape is defined as the penetration, however slight, of the oral, anal or vaginal opening with the perpetrator's penis accomplished with a female under any one (1) of the following circumstances:
(1) Where the female is under the age of sixteen (16) years and the perpetrator is eighteen (18) years of age or older.
(2) Where the female is sixteen (16) or seventeen (17) years of age and the perpetrator is three (3) years or more older than the female.
(3) Where she is incapable, through any unsoundness of mind, due to any cause including, but not limited to, mental illness, mental disability or developmental disability, whether temporary or permanent, of giving legal consent.
(4) Where she resists but her resistance is overcome by force or violence.
(5) Where she is prevented from resistance by the infliction, attempted infliction, or threatened infliction of bodily harm, accompanied by apparent power of execution; or is unable to resist due to any intoxicating, narcotic, or anaesthetic substance.
(6) Where she is at the time unconscious of the nature of the act. As used in this section, "unconscious of the nature of the act" means incapable of resisting because the victim meets one (1) of the following conditions:
(a) Was unconscious or asleep;
(b) Was not aware, knowing, perceiving, or cognizant that the act occurred.
(7) Where she submits under the belief that the person committing the act is her husband, and the belief is induced by artifice, pretense or concealment practiced by the accused, with intent to induce such belief.
(8) Where she submits under the belief that the person committing the act is someone other than the accused, and the belief is induced by artifice, pretense or concealment practiced by the accused, with the intent to induce such belief.
(9) Where she submits under the belief, instilled by the actor, that if she does not submit, the actor will cause physical harm to some person in the future; or cause damage to property; or engage in other conduct constituting a crime; or accuse any person of a crime or cause criminal charges to be instituted against her; or expose a secret or publicize an asserted fact, whether true or false, tending to subject any person to hatred, contempt or ridicule.
The provisions of subsections (1) and (2) of this section shall not affect the age requirements in any other provision of law, unless otherwise provided in any such law. Further, for the purposes of subsection (2) of this section, in determining whether the perpetrator is three (3) years or more older than the female, the difference in age shall be measured from the date of birth of the perpetrator to the date of birth of the female.
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Dr. Chad A. Mirkin is the Director of the International Institute for Nanotechnology and the George B. Rathmann Professor of Chemistry, Professor of Chemical and Biological Engineering, Biomedical Engineering, Materials Science & Engineering, and Medicine. He is one of only 15 scientists, engineers and medical doctors in the world, and the only chemist, to be elected into all three branches of the US National Academies. Mirkin serves as an advisor to President Barack Obama on science, technology, and innovation in his role as a member of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology (PCAST, Obama Administration). He is celebrated for his discovery and development of Spherical Nucleic Acids (SNAs) and the many medical diagnostic, therapeutic, and materials applications that have derived from them, the invention of Dip-Pen Nanolithography (recognized by National Geographic as one of the top 100 scientific discoveries that changed the world), and contributions to supramolecular chemistry. He is the author of over 575 manuscripts and over 930 patent applications worldwide (248 issued), and the founder of three companies, Nanosphere, Inc.; AuraSense, LLC; and AuraSense Therapeutics, LLC which are commercializing nanotechnology applications in the life science industries.
There's Plenty of Room at the Bottom" was a lecture given by physicist and Nobel laureate Richard Feynman at an American Physical Society meeting at Caltech on December 29,1959. Feynman considered the possibility of direct manipulation of individual atoms. The talk is considered to be a groundbreaking event in the history of nanotechnology, as it inspired the conceptual beginnings of the field decades later.
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When installing Ubuntu 12.04 to an external HDD using Ubiquity, it installs GRUB2 to that HDD. Such installation works fine on the machine on which it was created, but on any other machine everything just hangs up after loading the initial ramdisk. The machine shows black screen and no disk activity goes on.
I suspect this is caused by some configs being dependent on "global" device enumeration which is different on different machines, or something else gets machine-dependent. How do I avoid that? Shall I generate a more generic initial ramdisk somehow? Or perhaps using syslinux instead of GRUB2 will help?


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USRobotics USB 3.0 Card Reader and tablet stand ideal for photographers
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The Challenge: Download and display photos as quickly as possible
This photographer juggles 2-3 cameras and shoots over 1,000 photos for every wedding with up to 30 GB of data. With the invention of the tablet, this photographer can now show the guests at the reception some of those excellent shots from earlier in the day. While the bride and groom love this option, it also means finding time to download all the pictures, doing a quick selection, and loading the tablet. There isn't a lot of time between the ceremony, formal shots, and the reception and shaving off time in any way means more time to breathe and focusing on the day and not waiting for technology.
The Solution: Fast Card Reader and light and compact stand
The USRobotics All-in-1 USB 3.0 Card Reader with dual SD card slots replaced the old USB 2.0 card reader. Used with a laptop with a USB 3.0 port, the photographer was able to simultaneously download from 2 SD cards and 1 CF card with amazing speed while driving from the first location for formal images to the ceremony. The downloads from the first half of the day were done almost before leaving the parking lot. With a few extra minutes to look at the images, the photographer was able to choose 10 images to load onto the tablet to show later at the reception.
With the tablet preloaded, the photographer needed an easy way to prop the tablet up without taking up a lot of space. The USRobotics Slim Tablet Stand was small and light and easily fit into the camera bag until the perfect spot was found at the reception bar where the guests waiting to get a drink could then look at the images while in line. The tablet stand's rubber end caps kept the tablet stable and secure while guests bumped the bar and touched the screen.
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Worn once for outside wedding elopement. Small crystal missing on front, and small tear on train. Both were not noticeable in person or in photos. I have the unused straps, and extra crystals for repair.
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Sept. 9, 1997
Joe Dillon Selected as Prestigious Golden Spikes Nominee
LUBBOCK, Texas - Former 1997 Texas Tech baseball player Joe Dillon has been named as one of 50 nominees for the prestigious 1997 Golden Spikes Award. Sponsored by the Major League Baseball Players' Association (MLBPA), the Golden Spikes Award is presented annually to the most outstanding amateur/collegiate baseball player in the United States. Former Golden Spikes Award winners include Major League Baseball players Tim Wallach, Will Clark, Robin Ventura, Ben McDonald and Alex Fernandez.
The selection committee will narrow the nominees of 50 down to nine finalists in two weeks. Each of the nine finalists will be invited to the annual Salute to Excellence Awards Program, held on Tuesday, November 11, 1997 in New York City for the announcement of the winner. The winner is selected by an Awards Committee composed of more than 80 knowledgeable amateur baseball representatives from all levels of the sport. The committee ranks the top nine nominees and then selects a winner based on exceptional athletic ability, sportsmanship, character and overall contribution to the sport at any level.
Dillon, a right-handed hitting first baseman, helped lead Texas Tech to a 46-14 record and Big XII Conference championship last year. He was named to three All-America first teams and two All-America second teams and was named the Big XII Conference Player of the Year by the leagues' coaches. An Exercise and Sports Science major and native of Santa Rosa, Calif., Dillon was drafted in the seventh round of the Major League draft by the Kansas City Royals. He finished his two-year Tech career with 43 home runs and a .361 batting average after setting season records for home runs (33), slugging percentage (.931) and total bases (215) in 1997.
Dillon was one of five Big XII Conference nominees including Oklahoma State's Cary Ammons, Nebraska's Todd Sears, Baylor's Kip Wells, and Texas' Kip Harkrider.


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Producer prices in May 2010
June 21, 2010
On an unadjusted basis, prices for finished goods rose 5.3 percent for the 12 months ended May 2010, their second consecutive month of slowing year-over-year advances after a 6.0-percent increase for the 12 months ended March 2010.
The Producer Price Index for Finished Goods moved down 0.3 percent in May, seasonally adjusted, following a 0.1-percent decrease in April and a 0.7-percent increase in March.
In May, most of the decline in the index for finished goods can be attributed to lower prices for energy goods, which fell 1.5 percent. Also contributing to lower finished goods prices, the index for finished consumer foods moved down 0.6 percent. By contrast, prices for finished goods less foods and energy rose 0.2 percent.
These data are from the BLS Producer Price Index program. To learn more, see "Producer Price Indexes — May 2010" (HTML) (PDF), news release USDL-10-0812. All producer price indexes are routinely subject to revision once, 4 months after original publication, to reflect the availability of late reports and corrections by respondents.
Bureau of Labor Statistics, U.S. Department of Labor, The Economics Daily, Producer prices in May 2010 on the Internet at http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2010/ted_20100621.htm (visited June 25, 2016).
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Pretty 4ever is up for review today, and this is a bit of an artsy site featuring younger Russian girls in solo sets showing off their beautiful bodies. It has a distinct nude photography feel to it, though they offer some videos as well. Check out the tour to get a good idea of what they have to offer here as these sites are pretty subtle in their differences at times. $25 a month gets you in the door, which is about what I was expecting here.
Nice quality here; unique scenes.
The focus on beautiful models, great locations, and interesting shoots also brings about the great quality you see here. Check out the tour to see what kind of artistic nudes they offer as I like what they shoot for sure. Videos come in HD for the most part, though the specs vary a bit. Photos are all large, sharp, and well done all around.
Lots of photo galleries up.
The video count isn't bad here at 140, but the 590 photo galleries is obviously the better number. They focus on the photos and do them quite well. Most of the updates are photos as well, so hopefully those numbers continue to rise.
Other Good Stuff:
Navigation is pretty bad.
Getting around the site is a bit of a pain unfortunately. They break things down into videos, photos, or by model, but that's about it. The photo section is the biggest problem since it's the largest; there are too many pages to get through, and the navigation doesn't make it easy enough. There's no search that I see, which could really help narrow things down.
Kinda slow to get around the site - server issues?
In addition to the lackluster site features, the whole server setup is a bit off for me. The site was rather slow at times, both with downloads, and just for getting around the pages. If it took long enough, I'd get a random 500 server error here and there as well. Some kind of script is probably running into problems, and it makes doing simple things abnormally slow and difficult at times.
Videos may be boring for some.
While I love that they even have videos, they aren't quite what I was hoping for in terms of content at times. Often, it's just basically a behind the scenes of a photoshoot without much going on. I'd love some videos shot specifically for the site where maybe they pose seductively, etc.
Minor Negatives:
I love the girls, locations, and shoots, though the site could use a few small changes.
Pretty 4ever definitely hits the nail on the head in terms of content. The models, locations, and overall shoots are definitely pretty nice overall. Plus, with high-end quality and download options, they can be as large and sharp as you want them to be. Navigation does need some work, and the server issues were definitely annoying at times as they site slowed to a crawl. Overall, not bad for sure. I'd say check it out if you're a fan of the genre. It can't quite compete with the big boys in terms of numbers, but what they do have should be quite fun to check out.
About the Content:
Downloadable exclusive scenes featuring Russian girls posing nude in pretty artistic shoots.
Download Managers:
Yes, should work.
Channel Max: 10
Able to pause/resume.
Test Software: Speed Download
Download Speed:
Download Mgr: 675KB/sec.
Browser: 75KB/sec. (faster, weird)
(294MB video, 50Mbps cable internet)
Exclusive Info:
Advertised: 100% exclusive.
My Opinion: Yes, it looks like they shoot all their own content here.
File Sizes (HQ):
(average size, HQ)
HD Video:
Yes, latest videos.
File Type: AVI, MOV, and WMV
Bit-Rate: Varies
Dimensions: Varies
Quality: Decent overall.
Live Cams:
No free live cam shows.
Logging In:
Only user/pw required.
Saved after closing browser.
Videos don't require pw.
Very easy!
Model Appearance:
Mostly white models.
Generally amateur to semi-pro.
Body types from thin to average.
Model Info:
139+ models total.
Ages 18-30.
Mostly Russian.
Other Content:
Behind the scenes.
Other Details:
Music heard in some videos.
Pic Details:
Professional level photography.
Some airbrushing possible.
Good lighting, bright colors.
Pic Dimensions (HQ):
Recent = 4368 x 2912
Archives = 3456 x 2296
Sizes vary a lot, even by date.
Streaming Player:
Small flash player.
Can jump ahead immediately.
2-3 second buffer.
Smooth playback.
Okay quality.
Only offers a preview of the video.
Updates in Last 7 Days:
2 image galleries.
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Sponsors of Proposed Anti Smoking/Pro Health City Ordinance Accepting Public Comment by Email, Facebook and Twitter
Posted on 07/30/2014 1:23 pm
Wilmington City Council Members Robert Williams (D-7th District), Sherry Dorsey Walker (D-6th District) and Trippi Congo (D-2nd District) believe that a law is needed in Wilmington to protect non-smokers from involuntary exposure to environmental tobacco use. The legislators have introduced an Ordinance that is pending before Council's Health, Aging and Disabilities Committee that would restrict smoking in public places such as parks, playgrounds and transit facilities and fine violators.
The Council Members hope to move forward with the legislation later this summer, but first they want to hear from the public. They have established a special email address to which they ask citizens to send comments after they have reviewed the Ordinance. The Ordinance is available online at www.WilmingtonDE.gov/docs/2005/3945.pdf.
The special email address for public comments is email@example.com. Comments may also be sent to the sponsors via Facebook @Wilmington-City Council and Twitter @WilmCityCouncil.
Specifically, this Ordinance, #14-029, would make changes to Chapter 36 of the City Code to ban smoking in parks, playgrounds, public plazas and transit facilities. Persons who are cited by police for smoking in publicly-owned outdoor areas that are open to the public are subject to a misdemeanor citation and a $50 fine for the first offense, a $90 fine for a second violation within three months of the first violation, and a $100 fine for all subsequent violations.
Under the legislation, warning notices can also be issued to violators of the law by employees of the City's Parks and Recreation Department, the State's Division of Parks, Downtown Visions Clear and Safe agency, or the DART Transit Corporation which operates public transit buses and paratransit. The Ordinance also stipulates that no person can receive a citation or a fine unless smoking prohibition signage is readily visible to the public at the entrances to areas where smoking is prohibited.


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DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- Anthony Hitchens scored all of his 17 points in the second half and Akron rallied to defeat Drake 63-59 for the Zips? first win of the season on Saturday.
Hitchens? 3-pointer with 2:08 left put Akron (1-2) ahead for good, and he assisted on Darryl Roberts? jump shot in the final minute to seal the victory in the Glenn Wilkes Classic. The Zips, who represented the Mid-American Conference last season in the NCAA Tournament, had gotten off to their first 0-2 start in more than a decade.
Drake (1-3) led 33-27 at halftime on the strength of its 5-of-10 shooting from 3-point range. The Bulldogs held a 42-33 advantage before the Zips went on a 10-0 run. Neither team was up by more than four points the rest of the way, with Drake?s last lead coming when Seth VanDeest split two free throws with 2:22 to go.
Ryan Wedel led the Bulldogs with 14 points.


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MEDINA — For the next 100 years, the city of Medina and Montville Township will join in economic endeavors.
On Monday, Medina County commissioners unanimously approved a joint economic development district between the city and the township.
"I think it's a great development tool for the township as well as the city," Commissioner Steve Hambley said Tuesday.
JEDDs are formed to generate revenue. Employees of businesses in the JEDD pay city income tax — 1.25 percent — even though they work in the township.
Montville, because it is unincorporated, cannot levy an income tax.
Hambley said the next step in the process of forming the JEDD will be for representatives from the township, city, a business owner and an employee within the JEDD district to form a board that will oversee JEDD issues. The JEDD agreement will be in place for 100 years.
At-large Councilman John Coyne said he expected the JEDD board to be formed by August.
"I think it's a great opportunity for the community," Coyne said, because the JEDD will help to pay for the services the city and township provide to businesses in the district.
While the agreement outlines which parcels of land — in this case property along state Route 18 — fall within the JEDD, businesses can decide whether to participate in the district. The recently opened University Hospitals Urgent Care Center and the future Summa Health Systems' 24-hour emergency facility will be part of the JEDD. Although not on Route 18, two elementary schools — Ralph E. Waite and H.G. Blake — also will fall within the district.
No township property will be annexed to the city under the plan, and the district does not affect residential properties.
Under the JEDD, the city and township equally will split revenue earned from the district. The governing bodies can use revenue for any legal purpose they wish. While they are not obligated to invest all the money earned from the JEDD into the district, for an initial period, 20 percent of revenue will be set aside for special improvement projects or needs in the district, such as traffic lights or road improvements.
Montville Fiscal Officer Mary Pawlowski has said the JEDD is expected to generate between $10,000 and $15,000 initially, but "50 years from now it will be a nice number."
"I think it's wonderful," Montville trustee Jeff Brandon said Tuesday. "I think it's a great cooperative agreement between Montville and the city of Medina."
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