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This past Wednesday the Yellow Jackets faced rival South Dakota Mines for their first league opponent. Black Hills State was sluggish offensively throughout the whole game. At the end of the fist half the Yellow Jackets would go on a 13-3 run to take a halftime lead of 25-24. In the second half the Yellow Jackets could never get on track offensively as the Hardrockers went on a run late and never looked back taking the game 57-70. The Yellow Jackets were led by senior Sam Kim with 15 points and 11 rebounds. Freshman Clay Pottorff added nine points.
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D2+ Firmware problems with ogg
So far I've created many ogg files from my records or from other sources. I've never noticed any slight problems. I haven't checked every file but most are at 44100 Hz.
Now recently I recorded with a new device in much better quality. 88200/24bit. From there I directly converted to OGG-Vorbis with audacity using Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise).
The files created are played correctly on the system with both ogg123 and mplayer.
When copying them to my D2 with D2+ firmware (I'd estimate the last update about a year ago), the files were playback extremely slow . The (variable) bitrate is in average 168 kb/s.
Do you have any idea how to fix that problem ?
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This doesn't fall in the category of a firmware problem. There's nothing in the specs http://www.jetaudio.com/products/cowon/d2plus/ that say it can handle files encoded to the settings you used.
I've seen report from those with FLAC files that have higher bit depths and sample rates than what Cowons can handle that experience the same slow playback. The only solution for them was to convert and down sample the files. The resulting files played at the right speed.
With lossless files properly down sampled and dithered during conversion there shouldn't be an audible difference. Lossy to lossy conversion causes a loss in quality that can't be avoided.
I'm not sure if you'll hear a difference in your case. The only way to know would be for you to try it and listen.
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Thanks for clearing up, I didn't know about that limitation in the specs.
The reasons to make high quality oggs come from the original recording, I still have the original (uncut) but unfortunately my lossless (cut) FLAC files were stored as 16bit not 24bit (this is an audible difference - I don't know why audacity does convert it to 16bit and also haven't found any settings for that afterwards - edit: There is a button there on the export file dialog but so badly designed that it's easily overlooked).
Anyway it seems I have to look for more modern and faster cowon player (or just use my Samsung media player with rockbox) in the long run (unfortunately even C2 is limited to 44100 - not even 48khz are possible :-( )
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I won't attempt to tell you you don't hear a difference between 88200 and 44.1. That type of thing usually deteriorates very quickly into an argument. Most people that say they hear the difference end that argument by saying "I know what I hear!". As I've never found a way to confirm what anyone else hears I won't suggest there isn't an audible difference when you listen.
I do suggest that you do some investigation as to why you shouldn't hear a difference. I found most of what you might want to look at in this article http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html. I can't say it better than how it's said there so I'll just recommend you give it a read. I found it very informative. I hope you will also.
Rockbox should play the files but they would be resampled to 44.1. That's the only samplerate the playback engine can handle so everything that isn't 44.1 gets resampled. I'm surprised how many times someone has praised the excellent sound quality Rockbox produces for them playing files at samplerates other than 44.1. The Rockbox resampler uses linear interpolation and is considered to be pretty bad.
None of this is meant to tell you you're not hearing a difference or trying to tell you how you're going about producing your files is wrong. I believe everyone should create and listen to their music in the form that suits their needs and taste. I also believe that the more information they have, the better their choices can be for their needs.
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By Chris Jay 06/19/2014
Rumble in the Port
We told you last month about the free pro wrestling shows that take place every other week at the Oceanview Pavilion in Port Hueneme but last weekend we decided to check out the scene firsthand. Lucky for us, it wasn't just a typical taping of Championship Wrestling From Hollywood (see last month's column for the explanation on the odd name for the great location), it was the first annual Red Carpet Rumble. Alongside the promotion's regular wrestlers, recent WWE Hall of Fame inductee Jake "The Snake" Roberts, who was last seen in Ventura shooting the comedy film, Betting on Baker, which is set for a fall release, as well as former WWE Superstars like Matt Hardy, X-Pac and two of the best wrestlers in the world, AJ Styles and Colt Cabana, brought down the house. We can't stress how fun pro-wrestling is live and what a deal these shows are with an attractive price tag of free. It's a chance to see, up close and personal, the future stars of the crazy world of professional wrestling. Visit www.hollywoodwrestling.com and www.oceanviewinfo.com for more information on the next event.
Cup overfloweth
Speaking of crazy, the world will go crazier than usual over the next few weeks. Yes, that every-four-year burst of soccer insanity is officially upon us. While most of us aren't lucky enough to travel to host country Brazil to attend a match, fans can cheer for Team USA and local favorite Team Mexico at virtually every bar in the county. Either squad making it to the finals will be nothing short of a miracle, though, as both teams are superlong shots with their odds of winning the cup at 100-1. It could be worse; the odds of the Algerian squad winning it all is a staggering 2,000-1. With that said, why not root for a team with a good chance of going all the way in its league? The Ventura Fusion, which is currently undefeated at home and features several players from soccer-crazed England, has three home games left, including a showdown with PDL rivals the not-so-threatening-sounding Socal Seahorses on Saturday, June 28. Nearly the entire Fusion squad can also be found at downtown Ventura's Barrelhouse 101 during World Cup Games, and being able to get their insight on the action in person is a pretty awesome opportunity. As for an official Who's on First World Cup prediction, we back the underdog around here, so suffice it to say, if there's no column next month, the Algerians shocked the world and the 20 bucks we laid down on them last month in Vegas paid off big time.
Summer swinging
Two 805 boxers took full advantage of a shared TV appearance on Showtime earlier this month when Hugo "The Boss" Centeno and Francisco "Chia" Santana both scored unanimous decisions over their undefeated opponents. Both fighters look to be in action later this summer and both are nearing a top-10 world ranking in their respective divisions. Speaking of the fight game, Ventura County's only active boxing promoter, Top Players Promotions, will make history on Friday, July 11, at the Oxnard Performing Arts Center when it holds the first-ever world title fight to take place in Ventura County. After her win back in March at the same venue, former VC Reporter cover girl and burgeoning female boxing star "The Real Million-Dollar Baby," Maureen Shea, will now get a long-awaited and well-deserved shot at a legitimate world title. Tickets to the eight-fight card, which also features popular local fighters like Santa Paula's Indian Banuelos and Oxnard's David Rodela, are available at the venue and at www.topplayerspromotions.com. The event will also be aired live online at www.gfl.tv, but really, who doesn't wanna see local sports history made in person?
Tournament time
The annual Oxnard Police Athletic League (PAL) amateur boxing tournament, one of the most prestigious events of its kind on the West Coast, takes place June 19 to 21. Amateur boxers as young as 8 years old will descend on the city for the three-day tournament. Come out and root for the many local kids, both boys and girls, who are currently enrolled in the PAL's successful amateur boxing program. The Oxnard PAL Gymnasium is located at 350 S. K St., Oxnard, and will house the entire tournament, which starts each day at noon. Can't make it in person? Bouts will be aired live at www.oxnardpalboxing.com. Speaking of the Oxnard PAL, the organization may fly under the radar but it's one of the county's most inspiring and effective youth sports programs helping keep local kids off the streets.
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Now that Ventura has its own BMX track and is on the national map with last month's Seaside National Event, Ojai wants in on the action. There's a Kickstarter campaign happening as we speak to get a dirt track up and running in Ojai. I mean, beach kids can't have all the biking fun, can they? Visit www.ojaivalleybicyclecoalition.com for more information on donating and to check out the site plan and design. There are only two weeks left in the campaign, so help out now!
Day of the skate
We told you earlier this year about the local skateboarding community's continuing quest to build a new skate park, and the grassroots movement is building momentum. The community is now calling one and all to Pacific Skate Park (located by the Pacific View Mall) this Saturday, June 21, at noon to create awareness for the cause and to celebrate International Go Skateboarding Day. For more information, visit the supercool indie skate shop, Serio, which is located at 2764 E. Main St. in Ventura or visit www.venturaskateparks.org. As Confucius once said, or at least someone nicknamed Confucius, "He who has a board is never bored."
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Acupuncture, Ginseng, and MushroomsWhen Marilyn Stillwell, 50, was diagnosed with breast cancer last year, she felt overwhelmed by the journey she was about to take with her body. "I had a three-centimeter malignant tumor in my left breast and had to undergo rapid-fire treatments: lumpectomy, eight rounds of chemo, and 33 radiation sessions," she says. Stillwell knew this regimen would give her the best shot at survival. But when she studied her condition online and talked to doctors, she decided to make weekly visits to an acupuncturist, too. (She'd used acupuncture in the past to treat stress-related backaches.) The results, she says, were immediate. "People don't think of acupuncture as relaxing, because of the whole needle thing, but it actually provides tremendous stress relief. It helped heal my anxiety early on and counteracted the draining effects of chemo and radiation," Stillwell says. "I was able to work full-time. I had little fatigue, almost no nausea, and it really helped with the neuropathy, the tingling chemo caused in my fingers and toes."Thousands of women use alternative therapies to supplement conventional breast cancer treatments. The growing interest in these therapies has led to an increasing amount of research into their effectiveness. Although alternative treatments do not replace conventional ones, they provide new options for relieving the physical and emotional symptoms related to the disease. Here, some of the most promising treatments under study.Acupuncture to Reduce Chemo and Radiation Side Effects "Research has found that acupuncture is extremely helpful for counteracting chemo and radiation side effects such as nausea," says Patrick Mansky, MD, a research oncologist and clinician at the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine, in Bethesda, Maryland. "It may also help to alleviate postsurgical pain."In one five-year study, 104 breast cancer patients who received electro-acupuncture treatments along with high-dose chemotherapy had less nausea than even the women using standard anti-nausea medications. (In traditional acupuncture, practitioners stimulate needles by hand; electro-acupuncture sends a low-voltage electrical current through the needles.) Memorial Sloan-Kettering researchers are studying acupuncture to reduce hot flashes and chronic fatigue in breast cancer patients.Ginseng as an Anti-Tumor AgentGinseng has been used as a tonic in traditional Chinese medicine for centuries, and it's popular as a treatment to boost immunity and increase energy. Of the two types — red and white — used for medicinal purposes, white holds promise as a way to reduce emotional stress and has often been used to boost the immune system; it may also have anti-tumor effects.Ginseng root contains more than 30 active compounds, some of which have been found to have anti-tumor effects (in cell and animal studies). Several animal studies found that ginseng inhibited the growth of both estrogen-positive and estrogen-negative tumor cells. Researchers at Vanderbilt-Ingram Cancer Center, in Nashville, recently analyzed data from the 1,455-person Shanghai Breast Cancer Study. "Twenty-seven percent of patients used ginseng prior to diagnosis, and 63 percent used it afterward," says Xiao-Ou Shu, MD, PhD, the study's lead author. "Those who used it before diagnosis had the highest survival rates. Use after diagnosis was related to better quality of life, with patients citing fewer psychological issues, such as depression." Shu is now preparing to conduct a follow-up study of 4,000 patients.Maitake Mushrooms to Boost Immunity "While there has been a great deal of mushroom use in the East, there has been very little research into if or how chemicals within the mushrooms work," says Barrie Cassileth, PhD, whose botanical research center at Memorial Sloan-Kettering is conducting the first U.S. clinical trial on maitake, a medicinal mushroom extract. "These mushrooms contain beta-glucans, substances that enhance immune function in an unknown way."For the past five years, Sloan-Kettering researchers have conducted test-tube and lab studies using liquid maitake extract. This fall, a human study will be under way. Some oncologists feel so confident about the possible advantages that they're already recommending mushroom extract supplements to their patients, Cassileth says. "They don't appear likely to interfere with chemo and radiation, unlike some herbs, which we suspect can impede effectiveness," says Donald Abrams, MD, chief of the oncology division at San Francisco General Hospital. Mistletoe and YogaMistletoe to Stimulate Immunity For more than 80 years, extract from the mistletoe plant (Viscum album L.) has been used in Europe to treat cancer. According to Mansky, whose team has been studying the herb, lab studies show mistletoe kills cancer cells and stimulates the immune system.Mansky is leading a multiyear study to determine the safety, toxicity, and immune system effects of the herb in conjunction with a standard chemotherapy drug, gemcitabine; 34 cancer patients (a third of whom have breast cancer) have enrolled so far. Results are expected by the end of the year. Yoga to Speed Recovery and Increase Survival Rates There's more to a sun salutation than a good stretch. In fact, yoga has so much potential for cancer care that the National Cancer Institute (NCI) recently awarded $2.4 million dollars to the University of Texas's MD Anderson Cancer Center for a study on how yoga helps patients grapple with the stress of a cancer diagnosis. "Decades of research shows that our emotional processes can influence our immunity and ability to deal with illness," says Lorenzo Cohen, PhD, MD. Anderson's director of integrative medicine. "In theory, if you're able to decrease stress and negative thoughts while you're going through cancer, you get your body and mind into a healthier balance and you're better suited to deal with the disease. Women who add yoga to their treatment report less depression and fewer anxiety-related symptoms like sleep disturbances and intrusive thoughts."Yoga may also have important physical benefits. In a follow-up study of 61 women during treatment, half were assigned to a twice-weekly yoga class. After six weeks, the yoga group rated themselves as having more energy and a sense of well-being than the group who did not do yoga. "But we saw the biggest difference in physical functioning," Cohen says, "the ability to perform everyday tasks like carrying a grocery bag or walking."The form of yoga used in the study — Tibetan yoga — made a difference. "I had been to a yoga class three years before I entered the trial, but this time, instead of 'pretzel poses,' we focused on gentle movements and meditation," says study participant Dianne Landsen, 59. "When you're diagnosed with cancer, it's hard not to think about death. But the kind of mental conditioning I got from the yoga really helped me. Every time I walked out of a session, I had a sense that everything was really going to be all right." Much of the current research on fitness and breast cancer is focused on mind-body practices like yoga and tai chi, but any exercise has benefits. "Physical activity lowers the level of the stress hormone cortisol," Cohen says. "We believe this gives the immune system a boost that ultimately improves survival rates."Indeed, there's research showing that patients who exercise three hours a week have higher survival rates than their inactive counterparts. Why? "Theories range from beneficial hormonal changes to weight reduction, which can affect both your initial risk and the recurrence of the disease," says Barrie Cassileth, PhD, chief of integrative medicine at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, in New York, who is beginning an international study on fitness and breast cancer. Join an Alternative Medicine Clinical Trial When you join a clinical trial, it helps us all. These resources can guide you to complementary breast-cancer clinical trials seeking participants. (If you're enrolled in a standard drug study, you may not be eligible for an alternative study.)The National Institutes of Health This Web site lists every NIH-funded trial in the United States, along with details on the study setup and status.Learn more about NIH-funded clinical trials The National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine On this site, you can search by either the condition or the therapy.Learn more about NCCAM clinical trials The National Cancer Institute Search this site for trials around the country by cancer type, stage of disease, and treatment category (for example, diagnostic care or emotional support). The site also lists results from recent trials.Search for clinical trials by ZIP code or type of cancer Originally published in MORE magazine, October 2006.
Can Alternative Therapies Help Treat Breast Cancer?
New research says yes: acupuncture, ginseng, mushrooms, mistletoe, yoga, and other natural remedies can help you through cancer treatment and maybe even speed your recovery. Here, the health boosters that science is taking seriously in the fight against breast cancer.
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The article in the November issue about the link between domestic violence and chronic illness left me absolutely speechless. I think this might be the most powerful, important writing your magazine has ever published. This is must read information - I have already shared on social media and will be distributing copies at the non-profit I work for. Bravo to the researchers who took this on, to Alexis Jetter, and to More! Keep pieces like these coming.
--Jessica Murphy
On Wednesday, October 23 I was just told that I had severe arthritis in my neck with disintegrating discs. I also have severe arthritis in my feet. My doctor said he couldn't believe it was so bad for my age. It was like I was 10-15 years older in my body.
I have had chronic sinus problems and have had four surgeries. After the abuse started I developed severe allergies. I have lots of other symptoms. Sometimes I blamed myself.
So here is the cool news! I came home from the doctor and took your magazine out and found the article on A Hidden Cause of Chronic Illness. (I just started my subscription again after a few years - love the format!). I could not believe it. It explains everything. The best part is its not really my fault. Yes it is for marrying two abusers but no it is not for what they did). It is so much easier when you have information and you can throw blame out the window. It's like Katy Perry's new song "By the Grace of God" and the lyrics are "We were living on a fault line and I thought the fault was all mine!"
Thanks for caring enough about us survivors to publish such a great article and thanks to Alexis Jetter for writing it.
One cannot help but feel an emotional tug when reading about these women's experiences. Another thread of proof of the mind-body connection.
I myself, used to jump three feet in the air if anyone came up behind me and always the reaction would be "What's wrong with you?". Having a black eye at the age of two months was the beginning of sixteen years of beatings from an angry father. He's ninety-one now and while strokes have caused physical frailty, his mind and his tongue are as sharp and abusive as ever. It's taken a long, long time to become more emotionally balanced, but better late than never. Domestic violence can come from parents and siblings as well as partners.
After reading your amazing magazine last night I wanted to share my 43, after 5 children and a journey back to a healthy lifestyle that has allowed me a life I never imagined. Thank you for showing that Over 40 Rocks!
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Congratulations !! On the wonderful trueful article on DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. I live this life for twenty years. I no longer live with this man. I left him in the summner of 1993. I have develope a chronic illness Rheumatory Arthritis. God Bless your magazine and the author plus The Verizon Foundation.
Thank you for the above mentioned article in your November issue!
I read it and re-read it.
Domestic violence is, unfortunately, an old subject that seems to me to be a difficult one to decrease in the statistics but what made your article beyond fantastic is the study on how it affects children and makes them ill.
This subject deserves to get more attention. Whether through the media, through doctors' offices, in schools, through honest conversations among family members and friends we cannot afford to neglect our children a fair chance in life.
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To the editor,
I am a survivor of some of the worst physical and emotional child abuse at the hands of my natural parents. I was beaten over and over, my head slammed into ceramic tile walls, whippings, and knives held to my throat. My college educated "parents" ( if you can call them that) threw my then 4 year old brother put into the snow and told him to run away and not to come back. I am also a physician and easily recognize conditions that can indicate women abused.
From a professional standpoint, I am sick to death of having every ill of our society blamed on doctors. Abused people usually lie or hide their abuse. If the doctor didn't put it together, don't blame the doctors. Blame goes on the perpetrators. THE PERPETRATORS. Period. Even now, my "philanthropic" child abusing "parents" are in denial that they did this. How ghastly to see them go celebrations at their universities honoring them for their donations. Their evil has never been truly unmasked.
Don't blame the doctors. Blame the perpetrators. For the victim: tell a friend because you may not see a doctor that often.
Dear MORE editors, publishers,
I especially enjoyed this November issue and all the articles were so helpful and informative!
So enjoyed -Could your boss have Asperger's, When Life forces you to change your self-image, and Especially- A hidden cause of chronic illness. After reading this magazine I pondered my nephew who seems to have Asperger's. I'm now certain that his lack of social grace and character points to this, and helps me to better understand him. Also, kudos to printing A hidden cause of chronic illness. I was child abused and found many similarities in domestic/spousal abuse as child abuse. Although over 20 years ago, I am still haunted, am still affected, suffer the migraines, the stress, the social phobia, etc of those harrowing years. Very true doctors and nurses never ask, and all those years ago should be swept under the rug by society, yet we are a product of our environment, and live with the consequences of someone else's actions upon our being.
Thank you much for your wonderful selection of articles, More is getting better and better!!
Dear Lesley,
Just read your piece. Tell Jeff I vouch for him - stepped in a hole on a golf course two weeks ago. Spent the last two weeks traveling begging for wheelchairs, airport carts, and ice bags. Better now but most painful thing ever! I swear childbirth was easier...
I smiled as I read your letter in this month's MORE magazine. Though we may paddle in "different lakes," we seem to be in the same boat. The last time my husband and I stole away for a romantic Charleston week-end, he was recovering from his own dramatic (much more painful than a break) foot "sprain." He still insists on playing tennis like a twenty year old, WITH twenty year olds, and pays a steep price for it. As I watched my hero hobble down King Street, it struck me that living this phase of our lives is a lot like making a good stew using only the ingredients we have in our fridge at this very moment. We started our married lives fully stocked, and now, 30 years later, we are trying to create a satisfying and nourishing experience with the left overs we can scrounge up from various bins and shelves. Some of what we had back in the day has long expired, but every so often I stumble across something I didn't even realize we still had and it adds some zest to our relationship and keeps things interesting. Some of us have lots of great stuff to work with at this point…some of us have a lot less. I guess the trick is to keep things simmering, add more spices, and never stop stirring!
Thanks again for a great magazine!
--Cindy Cosgrove
Dear Lesley,
At first I was struck by your editorial, because I have a 16 year old who will soon be gone as well, and then what? I have a nine year old as well, but I'm 50 now, so will I be vibrant and energized the same as I was with my first child? However, in the last four weeks, I have lost four loved ones. At your first mention of the "empty nest syndrome", I gasped, a little pain, knowing it was coming with my oldest. But then bigger pains came; a lost father, aunt, a family dog put down, a friend's 35 year old son dying unexpectedly, and lastly, a 10 year old neighbor girl who died of cancer. So you asked in your article, how are we navigating life's turning points?
My answer is not simple. Yet, I am finding strength at my age that I never knew existed. Forget the 16 year old drama that "this last breakup is going to condemn me to a life being alone forever"; because I know better. Not, that "mommy I have no friends in the class this year so no one like's me"; because I know better. It hurts. It hurts for your kids growing apart from you; it hurts from losing loved ones. However, there is joy in the growth, if one can find it. Yes, we are not the 20 something on TV that look amazing. But who wants that angst that comes without knowing who you are and where you are going? At our age, we already know who we are. My son will go to college - probably in another country. I could cry, or I could celebrate the opportunity he has. I choose to celebrate for him. I know my younger one will get through his turmoil, because I've already seen the first one do it, and know better. That is a comfort that a first time parent does not have. And I know that losing loved ones isn't a tragedy, but a gift that we should celebrate that we had them at all.
So in my first year of 50, I continue to do my job as a Parent Liaison at two public schools, be a manager of a Taekwondo Studio, and in the meantime, (yes, this is a true midlife crises:) I got my real estate license, and for fun became an ordained minister. Just because I'm becoming an empty nester, does not mean I can't continue to grow and have new experiences. Our lives are meant to be filled, and our children are meant to be out in the world.
Just a thought.
--Alyson Linville
I was shocked to see the cover of the most recent issue of More magazine stating "How to age well at 30, 40, 50". What happened to women in their 60's? I, along with several of my 50/60 year old friends will be canceling our subscriptions as it is obvious we are no longer relevant to your publication.
What the heck?
This magazine has always been about women 40 and over. How in the heck has it started to slip into what it said it did not want to do.
There are WAY TOO MANY magazines which cater to the 30 and under "women."
Get back on course MORE.
As long as More has been around it has been designed for women age 40-plus. I gather you are changing this focus. Last month you included a 32 year old woman in your readers model section, as if it is some great triumph to look good at 32. This month a 36 year old woman graces the cover along with the headline "Age well at 30, 40, 50." Used to, that would have read, Age well at 40, 50, 60. Every woman's magazine out there is aimed at women in their 20s and 30s. I cannot tell you how angry I am that you are changing More to focus on that demographic. I have always appreciated reading about women my age or older and what they've learned, their life philosophies, etc. I appreciate learning what they do to continue to look good. I am not interested in reading about a thirty-something woman's "battles" with aging or raising kids. Again, that is available in all the other magazines out there. What a slap in the face to all of your readers. Thanks for making us invisible all over again.
Please, please, please stop accepting fragrance "enhanced" advertising. I love your magazine, but had to toss the latest issue out before I could even read it because it was so heavily perfumed. I suffer from fragrance allergies, so am more sensitive, but I have to believe that other readers out there -- allergies or no -- got headaches, too.
I'm loving my new subscription to MORE, however I'm an active, fit, young looking 70 year young women. I would love to see MORE go a step further in including my age group while it addresses so many pertinent issues for women of all ages. I have a daughter who turns 50 this year and she has taken up tennis so she can be as healthy and fit for a long as possible too. Come on MORE let's show the world that even 70 or 80 is beautiful!
Many thanks,
--Beverley Camp
While there is no doubt that Emily Wakeling looks stunning in her new outfit in the November Stylebook, not many of us can afford to spend over $2400 on just one outfit. The concept of closet updating is an excellent one but the article needs to work within the average woman's budget. Would Emily be able to afford your recommendations?
I am a long time subscriber of MORE Magazine and want to share my reaction at my latest issue. The models used in the ads within the magazine are too young to represent the readership of your magazine. Example- Estée Lauder's double page ad on the inside front cover depicts three young women who appear to be in their 20's, the next ad is ProX Olay with a model who might be in her 30's, and then there is an ad for Eileen Fisher with a beautiful young woman who is in her 30's... I have noticed this trend with each issue that I have received and finally decided to communicate my dissatisfaction.
I am 54 yrs old, and am fairly certain that there are models my age who can successfully represent and sell the products that advertise in your publication. I belong to a fitness group comprised of women in their 40's, 50's, and even their 60's who are amazing, fit and beautiful who could lend a more realistic representation.
I am actually offended by the fact that the companies who spend millions of dollars trying to get me to purchase their products, don't have the sense to show someone my age using these products.
I feel that it's important to be true to your mission of empowering women in their 40's, 50's and 60's to embrace their beauty, talents and lives and reflect "us" in the pages of your magazine.
--Kathryn A. Ridner
I loved MORE. It spoke to my demographic with style and intelligence. I would read it cover to cover each month. However, it's recent shift to a more 30 something perspective is troubling. Sarah Michelle Gellar is probably a lovely person, but she's 35. The models you are using (with the exception of the spread with Lauren Hutton.. By the way.. Fabulous) are twenty years younger than me. You've become just another Marie-Clare or Glamour. There are 100 magazines for 30 somethings. MORE was just for us. Your mission was clear, but you all have lost your way. Bring back my magazine!
Thanks for listening.
--Erin Saddic
Dear Lesley--
I started reading More in my early 50's --so whenever the cover stated in your 30's, 40's, 50's, I felt I belonged. Now, at 64, I'm still going strong and still reading your magazine. But, I feel left out and to my dismay feel that maybe More is no longer for me. In the past three months, two issues hit me in the face with red letters--How to age well at 30, 40, 50. I'm starting to feel that "I'm getting old" syndrome, especially when the magazine I love isn't embracing me. I may not wear high, high heels anymore (thank God), but I still take care of my face, body and appearance. More should take (more) notice of their 50 year old readers, who sailed along gracefully on every informative article over the years, helping (if only a little) to enhance their wisdom, beauty and attitude. So lets see more of More for the exuberant 60's.
--Donna Spears
Why did I buy a magazine for "women of my age" and find an Estee Lauder ad on page 1 with 3 lovely YOUNG girls, all under the age of 25? Really? Is there no way to run age appropriate advertising? I not only don't want to look like I'm 25 years old.. I CAN'T!!!!!
Hate the change!
There is a huge difference in all aspects of life between our 30s and 40+. This covers everything from fashion & make-up to health issues to family/work issues to how we see the world through our life experiences.
I want to see only 40+ women on the cover, in the ads, and in the columns & articles. I really cannot relate to the issues of a 30-something.
I know 3 other women who purchase this subscription every year. None of us likes the change.
Please stop!
--Sherri Thompson
Dear Lesley,
MORE magazine is truly my favorite since it covers what I feel are important issues for women my age.
I am a 56 year old professional and have read this magazine since it's inception. The November issue was troubling for me. The article in Stylebook: Is your closet too old? had before and many after pictures.
The styles were exactly what I would love to wear but the prices were much more than I can afford. Skirts for $695 and $780! Tops for $325, $275 and $525! It seems like this article was geared towards women who are in the upper tier of wealth and spending.
I am sure the magazine does not wish this to be true so please include more moderately priced items for me too.
Thank you,
--Diane Terranova
To the Good people at MORE:
I was very disappointed to receive the November issue with Sarah Michelle Gellar on the cover. She doesn't belong on the cover of MORE – maybe in 5 years but not now.
There are many other women with more "life journey" that should be gracing the cover with their in-depth story.
Please don't start peddling backwards!
Thank you for your time.
--Megan Williams
Dear Lesley:
I purchased your magazine because I thoroughly enjoyed every page of this magazine. This month, your cover feature was entitled "how to age well in your 30, 40, and 50. I almost put the magazine back, figuring that I was out of you consumer base. I am 63, and perhaps I have outgrown More. Why would you neglect people over the age of 60! I thought your magazine was designed for people above the age of ?, but perhaps you are now reaching for the 30 year old woman. If that is the case, you need more articles on weddings, childbirth, and finding a career.
If you are wondering if I am offended, I have to respond emphatically; yes.
If 60 is the new 40, what are you thinking? There are a lot of baby boomers out there still active and embracing life (not AARP) who are being ignored by this article. Just giving you a heads up, because we will probably put the magazine back on the store shelf next month.
--Carole Lynn Gathman
I was really distressed by your article on page 27 - Is your closet too old? Not so much for what you espousing, but because of the person you used as an example.
Emily Wakeling works for a nonprofit company and to suggest that she wear the kinds of clothes offered, from $943 to $2,345 per outfit, is obscene.
Fundraisers need to be presentable, as Emily certainly is in her suit, but it would make me wonder where my charity-dollars are going, if employees of the non-profit company were dressed so extravagently.
This is the only thing I did not like about MORE this month - the remainder of the magazine was pulled-apart for terrific articles I can share with my family and friends.
--J. Macdonald
My November issue arrived today with a renewal notice. The cover talks about 30, 40 and 50's. Have you abandoned the 60's? I am on the top left in this picture with my 30's decade daughters and grandchildren. I hate to think that I have become irrelevant to More.
--Martha Wunderli
After reading the past few issues I started thinking that the magazine is not what it claims to be - for the mature reader. The clothes are too expensive and the women featured in second acts generally had a successful career (and a nest egg) before choosing to do something else. Yesterday the November issue arrived with a 36 year old on the cover. "No more More."
I have given gift subscriptions (that i got by renewing MY membership) to nieces, but it is so THEY can understand what is ahead of them in life.
I am a charter subscriber who wants a magazine to age with me as I pass through from looking like a woman to an elderly person. i am 61 and try to maintain my appearance so i want more articles that pertain to what I am going through.
The forty yr olds have the same magazines i QUIT taking when i found they did not cater to my tastes/body type/physical limitations(no more aerobic exercises for me) anymore.
When you have the "age" fashions there is NOT ONE OUTFIT me nor my friends would wear.EVER. i am still reeling from the time a pink haired man was trying to give his advice on what women older than 50 should wear. Ckout page 33. Now that is a dress i would wear! Even to church!
i literally found nothing in the NOV issue from products to articles that would make it look like MORE is NOT becoming just another magazine for the xyz crowd. Seriously , on page 67 the interviewer is asking Sarah HER advice on beauty?
You just need to take a closer look at who is your real audience and quit humiliating us with advice from people equivalent to great grandchildren or i will not renew my subscription.
I've enjoyed your magazine for a long time. I am now 58, and I'm wondering if I've reached the upper limit of your target audience, especially when I see articles like "how to age well at 30, 40, 50" in the November 2013 issue. What does that imply for age 60?
--Lisa Haas
"may be socialized medicine isn't so bad after all", really? Old people in our country can't afford their meds and families go bankrupt due to medical conditions. As an editor, superficial comments revealing a total lack of knowledge about the issue is such a disappointment. I thought More's leadership had "more" than this. The magazine mustn't segment for educated readers.
--Francoise Aylmer
So outraged and disappointed to open my eagerly awaited More magazine to find SARAH MICHELLE GELLAR, age 36, on the cover???!!!
Whatever happened to MY more, the one that celebrates us who actually have hit middle age???!!!
I'm a fit, beautiful, healthy, active 52 year old, and yes I use botox regularly, but I DO NOT want More to blur its commitment to us 40+ fabulous women!!
Being in your 30 and the mother of young children is an interesting stage, BUT IT's NOT More!
If I see this again, I will cancel my subscription and no longer give it to my girlfriends as an annual present, as I have done for a decade now.
Please say it isn't true? When I pulled the November issue from my mailbox and saw the beautiful (and 36 year old) Sarah Michelle Gellar and the words "How to age well at 30, 40, 50", I sighed a sad sigh. MORE has always been the one magazine I could count on for an over-40 year old perspective. It's what made you unique and my favorite read. Now it looks like you are reaching out to a younger demographic, and you are going to be just like all the other women's magazines. I doubt I'll renew if this is where you are heading.
--Amanda Simonian
Dear Lesley,
I have been a subscriber of your magazine for quite a while now(at least 7 or 8 years). I am 51 years of age. I also recommended your magazine to many of my friends and women I deal with in my career since there never seemed to be a magazine that was focused on our age group. I ordered a subscription for my sister (49) and a co-worker (52). When I read your article saying you would be changing the magazine to allow it to include 30 year old women too I was disappointed since I felt you sold out like all the other magazines have and are making it "YOUTH" focused. I thought I would wait and read a couple of issues before sending a letter to the editor. Two other women that read your magazine both brought up to me how disappointing the latest issues have been. There are so many magazines out there already that are for this age group and what most women I know liked about MORE magazine was the fact that our life was full and exciting at 40, 50 and 60 and our lives, fashion and stories were finally represented in your magazine. I will not be renewing my subscription and I know of a few others who will not be renewing either. I find it sad that a magazine would change from a magazine of substance to a youth oriented fashion magazine.
--Donna L. Ouellette
Last night I read this article and it was a huge breakthrough for me. As a child I was verbally and physically abused and as a teen, had a mom with severe mental illness ended up in an abusive relationship where I was strangled and almost died numerous times aside from the stalking and broken bones. I've had years of therapy but have been told that my "sympathetic nerve" is always on. Although my life has been great for 20 years I have issue with stress, tension, joints, etc. I had shingles at age 30... I wish the article had more info on how to re-wire your brain/body but at least it helps me understand this but hope that it is not an early death sentence and can be reversed somehow.
Good morning to you,
I frequently buy More magazine as I am in my 40's and find much of the information in it useful and enjoyable to read. I was disappointed however, when I saw your new App instruction in the magazine. It's one thing to have an app or additional online information available as an addendum to a story, but on your "French women" story in the November 2013 issue, the only way to get the author's can't live without French products was to install the app. Whatever happened to just reading a magazine? Now to find out the foundation of the article I have to get my iphone and download an app that I don't want? Why? Just list the products in the article please....very disappointing. More ruined a nice leisurely experience with this app business.
--Jennifer Swisher
I've subscribed to MORE for years, mostly because it targeted an older demographic -- me -- than the many other mags already out there. Putting 36-year-old Sarah Michelle Gellar on your cover shocked 52-year-old me -- and my 29-year-old daughter.
It's a cheap reach for audience and a betrayal to your original supporters. I'm canceling my subscription now.
--JoNel Aleccia
It continues to always surprise me that you never include young, hip, fit, passionate 60 year olds and up in your magazine. Especially the new cover that only goes up to 50 years old…
Do you think we are too old for you?? We're not your grandmothers' 60s, you might remember.
I will be cancelling my subscription, if you don't start to include us with all the other wonderful women you profile. We are alert, conscious, very metaphysical and aware, and it might behoove you to think of us once in a while.
Plus, we have money to spend on your advertisers!!
Thank you,
--Bess Scher
Just one question. Why didn't you use models that actually have bellies to camouflage?
--Jennifer McClellan Sanders
When did More begin covering women in their 30's?
I thought the whole premise behind More was creating a magazine that celebrated women in the 40's, 50's 60's and so on...30's?? Since when?!
On November's issue, Michelle Gellar is on the cover-a cute, sweet kid-but a kid nonetheless!!
I have been a subscriber of More magazine for close to ten years, and this year, my subscription WILL NOT be renewed.
I used to love getting More delivered to my home, and I looked forward to finally reading a magazine that I could relate to with regard to age appropriateness. I didn't necessarily see myself in every article nor featured story, but I still found it interesting, inspirational, educational and entertaining to get a glimpse into the lives of my fellow-aged women!
I can not believe that November's cover also states "How To Age Well At 30, 40, 50". At last check at my local newsstand, 30's had over 13 magazines/publications to reference. Why couldn't More have kept its original target market and have continued to be a magazine for women 40 and older? Do women in their 30's have such purchasing power that More felt it had to compromise its original premise? Or is it the opinion of More that a 30 something women is "more sellable" on the cover than her 10 year older counterpart?
As a 53 year old woman, mother of 3, second act career, married for 22 years, dealing with a mother with severe Alzheimer's, I enjoy and absorb the wisdom of those who have "been there, done that". I learn from their successes and try not to repeat their mistakes; More previously introduced me to those women. In all honesty, as cute as Michelle Gellar is, she lacks life experiences and along with those experiences, wisdom follows.
So thanks, More. It's been a great ride. I truly am so sorry to end this relationship, but I guess all good things must come to an end.
More is the new Less.
--Kim Thoresen
I felt compelled to write since each month you give us an opportunity to express our feelings to you. After years of reading "younger" magazines I embraced "More" when it came out. I thought it the perfect magazines for middle age women. (40's,50's and 60's) Women are younger in appearance and style today, than generations before them.
Gradually, I have seen "More" go over to a younger generation of women. What happened to women who are still "young" and in there 60's? I am 61 and I have ordered your magazine since its conception and order one yearly for my sister as well.
Now, I am feeling that it is meant for younger women both with articles and the large budget for clothes that your models wear. I don't feel the average woman can afford the clothes you endorse each month in your magazine. I would never spend $795. on a shirt or a skirt to go to work or hang out in. I live in an affluent area and I can honestly say that women I know are more conservative about cost of their clothes though certainly most don't need to be.
Please go back to a more middle age generation. There are already too many magazines for teens to 30 year old and we just don't need another.
--Nancy Jankovsk
I wanted to speak to someone about WHY you now cater to the 30's !!!!
The sole reason I have subscribed to More ( and love it ) was so I did
not have to skip so much that was way too young for me ! I am almost 58,
and do not want to look at things I cannot wear or do !! They have so
many other mags for that age range, all I can ask is WHY, WHY, WHY ? I
am not sure I will renew this time, because before we all know it More
will be too young for people my age ! What a shame
A loyal ( and disappointed subscriber )
--Chris Martino
After reading the past few issues I started thinking that the magazine is not what it claims to be - for the mature reader. The clothes are too expensive and the women featured in second acts generally had a successful career (and a nest egg) before choosing to do something else. Yesterday the November issue arrived with a 36 year old on the cover. "No more More."
--Marti Sterin
I love your magazine and read it regularly. What disappoints me (and my
co-workers) is that your target audience is "women of style & substance'
presumably over the age of 30 or 40.
Take a look at the Estee Lauder ad - page 2 & 3 of November issue.....give
me a break - those are not real people. They are airbrushed teenagers!
I realize you need advertisers, but can't you request that they create ads
that real women can relate to? Thank you
--Lynda J. Kemp
I am a big fan of MORE. I fully enjoy reading the substantive articles and appreciate seeing images of women who embrace and celebrate the wisdom that comes with experience over time. Healthy, natural aging is inspiring.
I have trouble reconciling the substance of natural, beautiful aging with the advertisements that appear every few pages in which I am being told that aging is so ugly that it must be surgically corrected.
Additionally, broadening your target audience to include women in their 30's seems to dilute the appeal and original purpose of the publication. I am not sure if MORE speaks to me as well as it once did.
Thank you,
--Jody Ritter
I have been reading MORE magazine since I turned 40, 10 years ago. Whereas I embrace every age, if I wanted to read about 30-some year olds (Sarah Michelle Geller on the cover), I would buy any other magazine in the market. I thought the whole point of MORE was focusing on middle age and beyond. I want to read something I can relate to at this time in my life.
Thank you!
I discovered "More" when I was in my mid-thirties, and one of the first things I did when I turned 40 was subscribe to it. In the dozen years since, I have faithfully renewed my subscription each year and purchased gift subscriptions for special women in my life. We all enjoyed "More" because it was geared for women of a "certain age". This is why your recent decision to broaden your magazine's focus by appealing to 30-something women has been a real disappointment; it seems as though at least half the magazines currently available are already geared to that age group. Abandoning your original target audience has taken away what made "More" special and I'm not sure that I will be renewing my subscription, or any of the gift subscriptions I've purchased, when they come due again. Hopefully another publication will step in to fill the void your decision has now left.
--D. Neff
I really enjoy MORE magazine but I had great difficulty reading the November 2013 issue. The perfumed insert had permeated the issue with its aroma.
Is it possible to avoid such inserts? If not for all issues for those people with serious allergy reactions to perfume aromas?
Thank you.
I appreciate your attention.
--Lorraine Gibson


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SLC's nastiest supervillians you'll never find in a cartoon or comic book for 2012...
No hugs and kisses here
On Valentine's Day, a young man handed a note to Brittany Molina, a pretty BYU student. Awww. Turns out it said, "Please consider your commitment to the Honor Code (which you agreed to) when dressing each day." Too good for the Huffington Post to pass up, especially with a BYU grad running for president.
Brits Holier Than Thou Gaffe
The BBC News website posted a photograph of the Holi Festival of Color in Spanish Fork, Utah, and titled it "Filthy Festival." The annual festival was just one such event celebrated by Hindus worldwide, where revellers throw colors all over each other. The Brits apologized after the Chakra News and Hindu news organizations everywhere picked up the story.
NSF for Newt
Utah made national headlines when Republican candidate Newt Gingrich bounced a $500 check to get on the state's primary election ballots. Maybe a clear sign his campaign was already headed south?
Joke from the Utah Lege
A Senate committee agreed that restaurant owners should have an easier time sampling liquor they want to eventually sell in their establishments. Sounds reasonable—there are more than 4,000 wine offerings available to consider for a restaurant. The proposed bill allowed restaurateurs to attend liquor wholesaler trade shows where they could taste—but not swallow. It failed.
Let's Not Make a Deal
Last year, local daily deals website citydeals.com called it quits and left customers with gift certificates they weren't sure would be accepted, and merchants without their cut of the profits. Luckily, the company that owns Seven Peaks Water Park bought the website and saved the day.
Mechanical Difficulty
It's all about marketing these days, which makes us wonder why the Salt Lake International Airport, poised for a huge expansion, chose this image (right) of a plane in flames as an image for its Facebook page.
Easy Come, Easy Go
Trucker David Dopp from Santaquin won a $380,000 Lamborghini in a convenience store chain's contest, then crashed the 640-horsepower sports car through a fence and into a field six hours after he picked it up.
The Davis County Bomb Squad honed their expert skills after some up-to-no-good teenagers brought four homemade bombs to school, putting Bountiful High School on lockdown. The local news was quick to report how easy it is to find instructions to make the bombs online.
Slow snow days
Mother Nature played a cruel joke on Utahns this year with one of the worst snowfalls in many years. Alta reported only 327 inches by early April compared to last year's 565.
Pump it up
At upwards of $4 per gallon, we're all starting to wish our cars ran on milk. Remember the days when you could fill up your tank with a fiver?
Held back in math
The State Office of Education should be given an F on their initial budget for next school year, which should have been $25 million more, but didn't account for how many kids would actually be going to school. The mistake led to the resignation of two finance officials. Still, if the office keeps studying and gets plenty of rest, we're sure they will correctly estimate the following year's enrollment numbers on the first try.
Run for the Border
Utah outlaws all forms of gambling, but it's OK if you're outside the state. The Salt Lake Tribune recently reported their analysis of the Idaho Lottery Commission sales for 2011, showing one of every $5 spent on traditional Idaho Lottery games have come from sites near the Utah border—where you'll also find the top five performing lottery outlets in Idaho.
Hope you Changed your Password
In response to an anti-graffiti paraphernalia bill circulating in the Utah Legislature back in January, hacker group Anonymous thought it would make sense to attack the people who'd enforce the bill if passed, but ended up hurting citizens in the process. The SLC Police Department website was taken down one afternoon after the hackers infiltrated the site, but worst of all, emails of citizens registered on the site, along with phone numbers and addresses of those who left tips for the cops were also compromised. The bill was never passed into law.
When in Drought...
The Natural Resources Defense Council rated Utah lower than most states, and last out of the states that share the Colorado River, on planning water policies for climate change. The group says state agencies have ignored the threat, while legislators have downplayed the risks.
Seven Lives Left
Andrea the cat survived two rounds in the West Valley–Taylorsville Animal Shelter's gas chamber, fueling animal shelter activists' fight to replace it with lethal injections. Andrea is still alive and well.
Creative Writing
Mike Winder, mayor of West Valley City and current Salt Lake County mayor candidate, got creative when he couldn't find a writer to pen praise for his much-maligned burg. Under the assumed name of Richard Burwash, Winder submitted stories to the Deseret News in an effort to boost West Valley's reputation. The irony really hit when it was revealed State Sen. Ben McAdams had listed a surprising endorsement in his Salt Lake County mayor campaign from, who else, Richard Burwash.
Deadly Keystone Kops
As more files are released, it becomes clear that the West Valley Police Department blew it in the tragic Susan Powell case. First, we heard Josh Powell's incredible alibi about a late-night camping trip with the kids during a snowstorm. Then we learned blood was found in the Powells' home along with a handwritten note from Susan stating that if she died, it wouldn't be an accident. Police Chief Thayle "Buzz" Nielsen says evidence was circumstantial and without a body, Josh could have escaped conviction. So Josh was never arrested and later killed himself and his two sons.
Hey, Shorty
Late last year, former NBA star and local Shawn Bradley reported his custom bike, built to fit his 7'6" frame, was stolen from his home. Luckily, police found the bike and arrested Joshua Carter, who was a little more than a foot too short to ride it. Apparently Carter passed on other smaller bikes, a boat, tools and a $200 pair of sunglasses during the theft.
Expensive Tastes
A burglar stole about $2,400 worth of product from Caputo's on 15th in March. Bypassing the wine glasses, produce and deli-grade meats and cheeses, this tasteful thief took "all high-end stuff" according to co-owner Troy Petersen, like imported and rare foods including six legs of prosciutto, roast beef, artisanal salami and upmarket mozzarella.
A Sugar House bike thief brought his stolen ride to Contender Bicycles to get some air in the tires last October. Unbeknownst to him, the bike owner had been in Contender the previous day getting info about the same bike for his insurance claim. The quick-thinking Contender employee outwitted the bike thief and called the cops, who arrested the man while the tires were being filled.


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Years ago my work buddy bought a Ruger M77 in .243cal.as his new deer gun. when he asked about a scope for it, the salesman told him a rule of thumb was to spend twice the cost of the rifle on a scope.
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Years ago my work buddy bought a Ruger M77 in .243cal.as his new deer gun. when he asked about a scope for it, the salesman told him a rule of thumb was to spend twice the cost of the rifle on a scope.
I have scopes I bought over the years.. Sitting in the drawer. Nikon, Bushnell. Still have the $59 Tasco I bought years ago..
Would count on that little Tasco in a heartbeat.. They used to come out of Miami, now I think one of the big guys bought them out?
Good thing about Florida, long range shooting is 100 yards and that is at the rifle range where they cut the trees..
i don't know if i believe that a scope has to cost two times the price of a firearm.
i have thought about putting a zeiss on my $300 savage. it does so well with the old fullfield 2 on it i hate to mess with it.
the best $$ on a scope if the first $100-$300 after that you spending 100% more to get that last 10% and sometimes you still don't get it. (LOL)
probably the real meat in the rifle scopes are from about $150-$300. there are a lot of high end euro scopes slipping down to towards that $300 mark too! must be the Obama economy smacking the upper end of the middle class pretty hard!
i have been seeing a lot of $600 scopes for $375 and $500 scopes for $270ish. normally the more expensive shit it the LAST thing to go down.
another vote for vortex! they seem to make very good stuff for affordable prices. vortex and burris seem to hole the middle market pretty well.
hell me and a neighbor were talking the other day about those $20 tascos and gibsons we had as kids, considering that $20 was a hell of a lot more $$ then than today , they would be about equal to a lower end nikon in price when adjusted for inflation.
my dad bought me a chrome plated nylon 66 .22 for $50 when i was a kid. i wonder what one would go for today if they were still making um? $300+ i bet.
Scopes through history..
Civil War..
hey 4th is that from your private collection? red beard the pirate himself must have used that scope to KO british sailors!
me and you must still be paying with silver dollars -- were talking rainbow printed obamma dollars here--LOL!
over at optics talk every time i ask about a scope it is zeiss this, mepro that , stiner this, --every once in a while they say get a vortex.
if it don't cost $1k or more you can't even see through it- must be made out of classic coke bottles -LOL!
I keep on hearing good things about the SWFA super snipers. Not exactly cheap at $300, but still reasonable. Supposed to be an excellent scope for the money.
the thing that turned me off is it is built like it is designed to survive an atomic blast --very big and heavy. probably very though too.
they can be a good deal , a lot of mall ninjas buy these as a "starter" scope, i heave heard when the mall-ninjas decide to step up to a nightforce/viper/zeiss or whatever $1,000 scope they often sell these for $150 or even less--
now that would be the deal--LOL!


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Basel Travel guide
Basel : Michelin's recommendations
Basel, Switzerland's third largest city in terms of population, is a real cultural heavyweight. Its 30 museums, its university, which is Switzerland's oldest, and its pronounced taste for contemporary art and design make it a fashionable, dynamic city, but one that remains mindful of its rich heritage and status. The city owes its wealth to its port, banks and powerful chemical and pharmaceutical companies.
Tourist attractions Basel : Things to see and do
Basel Old Town
CH - 4051 Basel
Old Basel, with several interesting monuments to visit including the cathedral, is worth a trip above all for its atmosphere, its very picturesque medieval streets and squares such as Andreasplatz, Spalenberg or Petersgasse. Here you will find severa..
St-Alban-Graben 16 CH - 4010 Basel
This prestigious Fine Arts Museum, where major temporary exhibitions are frequently staged, houses within its walls a large number of masterpieces. Pride of place is given to the collection of paintings and drawings from the Upper Rhine and the Nethe..
CH - 4051 Basel
This huge building, built of red sandstone, partly rebuilt in the 14 and 15C, and restored in the 19C, is topped with two Gothic towers from which there is a lovely view over the city. The main door is decorated with delicate sculptures of angels and..
Hotels Basel
Hotel Bildungszentrum 21
Missionsstrasse 21 CH - 4003 Basel
The Hotel Bildungszentrum 21 is located in Basel's largest private park, offering calmness and relaxation. The old town is only a stone's throw away and is easily reachable by public transport. Simply but nicely furnished, spacious rooms welcome you..
Hotel Rochat
Petersgraben 23 CH - 4051 Basel
Prix Prices from : 90 CHF
This hotel in a historic listed building in the old town of Basel enjoys a central and very quiet location, close to the university and the cantonal hospital. Hotel Rochat offers 50 rooms with 95 beds and features a cosy garden. 2 conference and b..
Hotel D - Basel
Blumenrain 19 CH - 4051 Basel
This eco-friendly 4-star boutique and design hotel is located in the heart of Basel. The stylish rooms all feature modern amenities such as iPod docking stations. Free Wi-Fi is available. Hotel D's rooms were fully-renovated in February 2016 and are..
Restaurants Basel
Blumenrain 8 CH - 4001 Basel
The Brasserie in the hotel's left wing with its elegant interior, pretty red table lamps and Rhine view is the embodiment of a lifestyle restaurant. Children in particular are sure of a great welcome here!
Bruderholzallee 42 CH - 4059 Basel
In this grand manor house Tanja Grandits and her husband René are continuing a great tradition in a modern style. Enjoy the stylish interior, the simple yet sumptuous tableware and linen, the excellent service and, of course, the chef's fine, aromati..
Cheval Blanc
Blumenrain 8 CH - 4001 Basel
Chef Peter Knogl, originally from Bavaria, has conquered Basel. He will surely find his way into your heart as well thanks to his delicate, perfectly presented classic cuisine with a Mediterranean touch. The classy setting of the Cheval Blanc is perf..
Les Quatre Saisons
Clarastr. 43 CH - 4058 Basel
In an upmarket and timeless ambience Peter Moser offers his guests classically based international cuisine with creative influences. "Spontané" and "Royal" menus available with the appropriate wines on request.
Bel Etage
Leonhardsgraben 49 CH - 4051 Basel
The first floor at the Teufelhof's 'Art Hotel' offers elegant rooms with lovely parquet floors and modern paintings. Michael Baader's delicious classic cuisine relies heavily on excellent quality produce.
Burgfelderstr. 188 CH - 4000 Basel
Close to Kannenfeld Park, the numerous artworks, Art Nouveau chandeliers and a decor reminiscent of the 1930s creates a fine setting for Erik Schröter's innovative cuisine. Unashamedly natural, it relies heavily on the choicest ingredients and the us..
Bachlettenstrasse 1 CH - 4054 BASEL
If you fancy a little bouillabaisse Marseillaise or a dish of veal cheeks braised in red wine, this is the place for you. The Mediterranean cuisine at Oliv is full and flavoursome and includes an excellent value lunchtime menu. In summer, enjoy your ..


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Digital Scanners:
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Flatbed Scanner:
Images from materials such as paper documents, books, photos, and slides may be scanned with the flatbed scanner. Scanned images must be saved to a flash drive; they may be emailed from one of the branch's public internet stations.
For instruction on the use of this equipment, please call the Information Desk at 473.6058 for an appointment.
The Civic Center Library offers Ancestry.com Library Edition for genealogical research. Ancestry.com is a powerful database that "includes records from the United States census; military records; court, land and probate records; vital and church records; directories; passenger lists, and more. Similar information is also available for the United Kingdom, Canada and some European countries."
Household batteries can be recycled at the Civic Center Library.
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Storytimes are subject to change. Please check our calendar to see upcoming storytimes at Civic Center Library.
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|Set against a backdrop of pristine mountain scenery
in Phetchabun, the luxurious Imperial
Phukaew Hill Resort, Phetchabun is a Swiss-style retreat
offering endless opportunities for exploring one of the most beautiful
but least known regions of Thailand.
The first class resort is occupying a 200 - acre site, high up on beautiful Khao Kho mountains and surrounded by many famous scenic attractions.
|Accommodation comprises a total of 140 units, spacious rooms, each
with its own balcony to enjoy the panoramic views.
Room types:
|Panorama Superior Room
|Hillside Chalet Deluxe Room
|Hillside Chalet Deluxe Room
With its combination of individual chalets and low-rise guestroom buildings, all specially designed to harmonies with the natural surroundings, The Imperial Phukaew Hill Resort, Phetchabun has the unmistakable ambience of an Alpine retreat. This feeling is further enhanced by the fresh mountain air and cooler temperatures of the North.
|Phukaew Terrace Restaurant
The best of Thai cuisine as well as top international dishes are available in the spacious Phukaew Terrace Restaurant.
- Open daily 07.00-24.00 hours
Type of kitchen : Thai / International cuisine
- Seating capacity : 125 guests
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- Open daily 20.00-02.00 hours
Type : Karaoke Bar
- Seating capacity : 80 guests
|Lobby Bar
- Open daily 19.00-24.00 hours except Wednesday
Type : Refreshment
- Seating capacity : 30 guests
The Imperial Phukaew Hill Resort, Phetchabun is a popular choice for meetings, events and incentives. Organize a unique business retreat in Thailand at Imperial Phukaew. Our main function room can accommodate up to 250 guests, who can expect the finest in Thai service and hospitality.
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|The Imperial Phukaew Hill Resort, Phetchabun is a Swiss-style retreat,
hidden among the misty mountains of Petchabun Province, central Thailand.
Traveling by car from Phitsanulok Airport is approximately 100 km. or
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Airport or 65 km. from Petchabun Town.
At the luxurious Imperial Phukaew Hill Resort, Phetchabun, you'll learn the real meaning of comfort while discovering a new and beautiful area of Thailand.
Within easy reach of the resort is a host of breathtaking sights, including the misty mountains of Khao Kho, spectacular Kaeng Sopa and Sri-dit waterfalls, plus the forests and wildlife of Tung Salaeng Luang National Park. Other attractions are the delicious winter products from local farms and the colorful Hmong hill tribe villages.


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Tasty Eggnog Cake RecipeRead Reviews Be the first to add a review
- 3/4 cup reduced-fat eggnog
- 1/4 cup sugar
- 2 tablespoons canola oil
- 2 tablespoons unsweetened applesauce
- 1 egg
- 1-1/2 cups all-purpose flour
- 2 teaspoons baking powder
- 1/2 teaspoon salt
- 1/4 teaspoon ground nutmeg
- 1/4 cup golden raisins
- 2 tablespoons chopped pecans
- 1/4 cup packed brown sugar
- 2 tablespoons all-purpose flour
- 1/2 teaspoon ground nutmeg
- 1 tablespoon cold butter
- 2 tablespoons chopped pecans
- 2 cups reduced-fat vanilla ice cream, optional
- In a large bowl, beat the eggnog, sugar, oil, applesauce and egg until well blended. In a small bowl, combine the flour, baking powder, salt and nutmeg; gradually beat into eggnog mixture until blended. Stir in raisins and pecans. Pour into a 9-in. round baking
- pan coated with cooking spray.
- For topping, in a small bowl, combine the brown sugar, flour and nutmeg. Cut in butter until crumbly. Stir in pecans; sprinkle over batter.
- Bake at 350° for 20-25 minutes or until a toothpick inserted near the center comes out clean. Cool for 10 minutes before removing from pan to a wire rack to cool completely. Serve with ice cream if desired. Yield: 8 servings.
Reviews for Tasty Eggnog Cake
"This was an alright cake. Moist and very much like a coffee cake but not enough flavour for our house."
"I made this cake and it didn't turn out well. It may be due to the fact that my flour was old and may have been dry also I didn't have applesauce so used chopped fresh apple. It was heavy. I will try this recipe again and use the called for ingredients and fresh flour."
"Whew! I never saw so much dissension over a cake! Some said it was so dry and tasteless they threw it away. Others said it was moist and delicious. Some said it had no eggnog flavor and others said there was too much eggnog flavor. Some said they had to bake it less than called for and others baked it longer. I don?t know why there is so much disparity. What I found was that the taste of the cake was probably about like that of a yellow cake, so it was not tasteless and was not terrible. It just did not taste a lot like eggnog. firstname.lastname@example.com suggested adding an extra tablespoon or two of eggnog. Eggnog extract can be ordered online and could be used. Like email@example.com, I substituted applesauce for the oil to save a few calories. The recipe called for 20-25 minutes baking time. I found I had to bake it 25 minutes. The cake was very moist and, I thought, quite good."
"The cake was dry and tasteless! We were invited to my daughter's for dinner and I made this cake to bring along for dessert and needless to say, I was quite embarrassed. We ended up throwing the cake out along with the recipe. It just wasn't worth wasting calories on."
"My friends and family like this cake. I find that eggnog freezes well and reconstitutes when thawed to use in the recipe. Yes, it may be a little dry as a cake, but at holiday time I love to add a scoop of eggnog ice cream to the cake when I serve it!"