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it really would be better if they were cryogenically frozen and only taken out for sex, cooking, cleaning, and eye candy
it really would be better if they were cryogenically frozen and only taken out for sex, cooking, cleaning, and eye candy
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I'm willing to admit that I'm not the greatest with money, but I have gotten alot better since I started getting paid. I currently have over $1700 in the bank, and I plan for that amount to continue increasing.....after I buy stuff for Christmas...^^;
And Nocturne, if women were cryogenically frozen and only taking out for those purposes, then there would be no point in them being frozen. Men tend to be very messy, needy, and demanding. Especially with the way you put it Nocturne; you seem like a lazy bum that wants everything done for you without you doing anything at all.
only save like 40% tops of your money that you want to save in the bank
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Yeah, I got that lecture. As of right now, I put $100 dollars of my paycheck into my savings. Boss's orders >.>
buy gold instead
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Well iam only 17 so i dont think my opinion would count to the threads original topic. but i do think that its pretty shitty what happend to your cuz. to think i only thought those things happen on t.v. or something
wow, I feel really bad for your cousin. I know this may seem personal, but is she asking for a lot from this divorce? A few years back, my Uncle divorced his wife. His wife was (until now) unemployed, but she still kept nearly everything (house, furniture, his jewlery, the jewlery given to his kids by my family etc.). She has them exactly 55% of the week, but it's nearly equal... I never understood quite how she kept everything.
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Yeah, that's what he thought too, He's pretty damn bitter about it. Speaking of which I gotta call him in a bit. Yeah, she seemed like a decent person too... guess that proves my theory that while some of them are decent people, all women are crazy.
Of course Keet was doin the same thing to another girl while he was bangin my cuz's wife. Heh as soon as the divorce is finalized, my cousin's sendin copies of the chat logs to the other guys parents, his wife's boss, and her boss's boss.
also, i think your wife is a bit mean to you. But that's how some girls are...... you can never really please them and all.
Your life sounds like something out of Desperate Housewives (the t.v show, which is my favorite!) no offense
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Your cousin seems like a smart man. If he's lucky, he can get her and the man she cheated with fired.
Heh none taken... and I'm sure if my wife was telling about us, her story would be different, and I'm SURE I have my faults... but no she's not asking for much.. he is giving her the trailer, and she's keeping stuff that specifically belongs to her but most everything is gonna go to him, for instance their 3 or 4 thousand volume DVD collection.. well he's letting her have all the Johnny Depp movies so he's gotta go buy them again. Nah she kinda screwed up since it's all her fault and she had no reason or cause for the divorce... he's actually going to file the divorce on adultery instead of letting her file... He beat her to the better divorce lawyer in town too.
Jeez Qoorl that's quite a lot to deal with. I'm really sorry you have to be caught in the middle of it all and I hope your wife isn't cheating on you either.
A real shame, Qoorl. First of all I really do hope something works out for you, even myself I've worried about a divorce between my own parents. Although before you begin jumping to conclusions you want sturdy evidence. Assuming things doesn't help and a few hints towards the idea of her having an affair probably wouldn't be enough to fully come to the conclusion she's cheating on you. It depends on your relationship because with something so delicate you have to tread carefully. In a perfect world, if your relationship was stable enough with her you'd be able to confront with your doubts but begin by outlining and making sure she would be alright for you to ask her. obviously the world doesn't so often work that way. You could risk it by asking her anyway, but consider what benefits you gain out of it. As much as I would like to believe that to be enough to re-establish your former relationship with her, most likely it won't. If, in the case she is having an affair, all you could do is ask her to end it and stop having feelings for the person. If she's not, she would doubt your trust in her. Or she may just lie and you wouldn't have accomplished anything.
Another option is if you're able to live with a doubt in your mind while you try and maintain a relationship. If you want to do that you would have to remain loving and affectionate to her otherwise she'd only be more tempted to turn to an adulterer.
Now the thing about an 'open marriage' is if you really want to be with her. Do you have any children? If not, if you value happiness over it which is entirely up to you, you could consider the option of a divorce. I don't recommend it in my opinion if it is only based on the signs she's been giving, but if your relationship has experienced turbulance [and I mean over maybe a year, nothing recent to the time she's been hinting towards an affair] maybe it'd be better if you two were to split up. If it's only been recent events that has put you off I think it's wiser to consider maybe the latest occasions that has made her start adultery and you could mend your relationship by getting out of the sort of slump you may be in now. But, if you want to keep your relationship, it's smartest to not show your distress and instead remind her of why you two wedded in the first place.
Eh, Personally, I don't think she's cheating, just that's she's paranoid, petty and more than a little selfish, but what can I say? Anyways...even if she is cheating on me, I'm incredibly durable and'll bounce back... I'll just find myself a hot new trophy wife on PD....damnit nevermind I'm twice as old as most of you... well, anyways.... I'll see if I can drum up some more stories about the cuz's D-vorce. I'll definately keep everyone posted on how it turns out when he mails those chat logs... HECK, I'm fairly certain I can get a copy in a few weeks....
Time for another Nugget of Joy. Anyways so Jeb here finds out everything... the divorce is gonna go through. She's allready moved out. It's the first day they are going to see the lawyer. Well they're at the trailer and he decides to give her one last hurrah! Clothes are flying, pictures fall off the wall. He takes care of her, then she does a lil something for him, well she can't really consume everything that comes out, so it gets in the hair, all over the face etc. WELL, she gets her clothes on and starts to head to the bathroom. He says "Hey where you goin?" and she replies that she's gonna go get her teeth brushed and face washed, and HE says "Oh no, you don't live here anymore and you're NOT using my toothbrush. Besides we need to hurry up and get the lawyer." So she just has to run a couple of fingers through her hair and wipe off as best she can with a bit of the bed sheets.
Yeah, I thought it was a sweet gesture on his part.
That's got to be the most fucked up and funniest thing I've ever heard. Can't say that she didn't deserve the humiliation though
Conclusion: She was cheating. "Jeb" got everything. end
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ARLINGTON, Texas - A good look at a would-be game-winning 3-pointer at the buzzer was just off the mark, and the Idaho women's basketball team fell 60-58 at UT Arlington in Western Athletic Conference play on Thursday night.
Idaho trailed 59-55 before Krissy Karr's second-chance 3-pointer made it a one-point game with six seconds left. After UTA's Laila Suleman missed the second of two free throws and the rebound bounced out of bounds, Idaho had four seconds to go the length of the court to try to tie or win the game, trailing 60-58. Connie Ballestero made a half-court pass to Alyssa Charlston, who found Stacey Barr cutting on the wing. Barr then found Christina Salvatore in the corner for a wide-open 3-pointer, but the shot bounced off the iron and out as time expired.
"You're going to have your not-so-great games, and that happened tonight and we almost won it," Idaho coach Jon Newlee said after the game. "We ran that play at the end to perfection. We had our best 3-point shooter wide open. It shouldn't come down to that, but it did and unfortunately it didn't go down, but I have full confidence Christina will knock that down next time."
It was a cold shooting night for Idaho, which hit just 21-of-65 shots (32.3 percent) and 10-of-33 3s in the game. Meanwhile, the Mavericks shot 43 percent and out-rebounded Idaho 43-41. The loss snaps Idaho's three-game win streak, and drops the Vandals to 12-13 overall and 9-5 in WAC play. UTA improves to 5-18 overall and 3-10 in the WAC.
Charlston entered the game with 997 career points, and it didn't take her long to get to 1,000. Less than a minute into the game she hit a 3-pointer to become Idaho's 18th all-time 1,000-point scorer. She finished the game with a team-high 17 points and had her eighth double-double of the season by adding 10 rebounds.
Salvatore scored 11 points and her three 3-pointers in the game leave her just one shy of tying Idaho's single-season record of 76, set by Susan Woolf in 1998-99. But the freshman from Anaheim, Calif., never found her shooting rhythm, as she went 4-of-18 from the field and 3-of-13 from 3-point range.
Karr scored a season-high 13 points on 4-of-7 shooting. Ballestero finished with seven assists and five rebounds for Idaho, and Stacey Barr had five assists and no turnovers.
UTA was playing its first game under interim head coach Karen Blair. Former head coach Samantha Morrow resigned earlier in the week after learning her contract would not be renewed after the season.
"With the coaching change this week, their kids played their hearts out," Newlee said. "They played with a huge sense of urgency, and hats off to them. I'm disappointed in our effort tonight. I didn't feel like we played with a sense of urgency until about six minutes left."
Led by 6-foot-1 post Desherra Nwanguma, UTA dominated down low. The Mavs out-scored Idaho 30-18 in the paint and Nwanguma scored 27 points on 12-of-17 shooting.
"It was a football game," Newlee said of the physicality of the game. "If it's going to be a football game then we need to play football. We need to be tougher. We need to respond.
"As disappointing as this loss is, we need to regroup, and wake up tomorrow morning and know that we need to play with a great sense of urgency on Saturday and get more physical, because LA Tech is going to watch film tomorrow and I know exactly what they're going to do."
The Vandals visit Louisiana Tech on Saturday for a 5 p.m. (PT) tipoff.

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Post subject: Re: Volume versus Validity
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With a non-discriminating audience, volume overpowers validity.
"If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing." - (Anatole France or Bertrand Russell, depending on the quote site)
"The soundest argument will produce no more conviction in an empty head than the most superficial declamation; as a feather and a guinea fall with equal velocity in a vacuum." -Charles Caleb Colton, author and clergyman (1780-1832) (quoted on AWAD)
I suggest that Gresham's law (Bad money drives out good) applies to ideas. I think we are seeing a form of it in our culture that I have summarized in my opening sentence above. When the majority of the population can't tell real science from snake oil, more snake oil than real science will spread around because snake oil takes much less work to produce than real science.
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interesting coming from you, due to the other post you have on WWW about global warming. I am very curious what you think about the majority of environmental scientists coming out and saying that AGW is exactly what you are talking against..snake oil, pseudo science, and so on. I will re-post the links I posted on the global warming post of yours.
Look at the credentials of the people claiming that AGW is exactly what you are writing against in this post, snake oil and pseudo science, with absolutely no data backing up the claims that CO2 or GHG are affecting our climate in any negative way whatsoever.
Are those scientists incapable of distinguishing real science from snake oil??
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This post is primarily about the sideshow Sterling started.
The abortion shift in wording was from Sterling. Her post used "human being" in 1 line & "human life" in the next. I posted about "human being" because I didn't even spot her wording shift.
I was responding to the post at the level of the post, which was arbitrary assertions labeled as facts.
Abortion discussions are highly emotional partly because definitions of most of the terms used are beyond the scope of current science, so every party to any discussion can define terms to suit themselves.
Here, to show reasonably standard usage, are a few definitions from the Oxford American Dictionary and an unabridged Random House Dictionary:
Baby: A very young child, esp. one newly or recently born. An infant. A newborn or very young animal.
Child: A young human being below the age of full physical development or below the legal age of majority. A boy or girl. A baby or infant.
Embryo: The young of a viviparous animal, esp. of a mammal, in the early stages of development within the womb, in man being up to the early part of the third month.
Fetus: An unborn or unhatched offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception. The young of an animal in the womb or egg, esp. in the later stages of development when the body structures are in the recognizable form of its kind, in man being from the latter part of the third month until birth.
Human being: A man, woman, or child of the species Homo sapiens.
Parasite: An organism that lives in or on another organism (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the host's expense.
Viable: Medicine (of a fetus or unborn child) able to live after birth.
Zygote: A diploid cell resulting from the fusion of two haploid gametes; a fertilized ovum. The individual developing from such a cell.
Based on these definitions, my use of the word "parasite" for a zygote, embryo or fetus (any stage of development in the womb) is correct.
Sterling's rape example just demonstrates how different our values are. To me that example would be a prime argument FOR abortion, yet she presents it as if against abortion. To force a woman to give birth and then have a lifetime reminder of being raped does not sound moral to me. I place the self-determination rights of a real, living woman higher than those of a potential future human. Once you assign human rights to any pre-birth stage of development, what is to stop more extensions? New extremists could want to assign rights to gametes because those also have the potential to lead to a new human being.
My personal position in any discussion of abortion is that a woman's right to determine the use of her own body and anything growing in it should be complete.
My comfort level stops at an independently viable fetus, but that does not change my position that women should have the right of total self-determination for their own bodies.
What I mean by independently viable is able to live with ordinary parental and societal support. If viability required living without parental support, no child would count as viable until several years after birth. If viability required ability to live without support from society, I doubt that I would count as viable or that much of the human race would count as viable.
As for the drive to survive, there are certainly biological roots, but there are varied expressions shaped by culture and individuality. Studies of social insects and of altruism can be especially interesting. Altruism can increase chances of kin-group or species survival without individual reproduction and even at the cost of individual survival. With current population trends, at some point choosing to remain childless is actually doing more to assist life on Earth than having children. Unless things have changed since the last time I read about the topic, there is an inverse correlation between education plus standard of living and childbearing: better educated people tend to have less children.
My reference to the Catholic church was specifically to placing value on fecundity or unrestrained fertility. That is certainly one belief system about species imperatives, but it is a poor fit for the modern world with an overabundance of humans straining the biosphere. Actually, relying on many offspring is a survival strategy more associated with insects, fish, amphibians or reptiles than with higher mammals.
If you want to use Utilitarian arguments (greatest good for greatest number) for use of limited resources as a basis for arbitrary survival decisions, you need to look at the opposite of Sterling's suggestion. Many elders are still productive members of society. A zygote or fetus is an unknown potential. If it is born (there are a lot of natural abortions/miscarriages), it may or may not ever be a productive member of society. A child is a guaranteed drain of resources for years or decades, but there is no way to know if one will grow up to be productive. So a pure evaluation of usefulness to society would place zygotes WAY BELOW elders because the elders have a proven current value and a known rate of attrition and the zygotes are a guaranteed drain with only an uncertain hope for value decades later and a measurable probability of later breeding to add even more burden to the biosphere.
The only reason unrestrained human breeding hasn't already caused a Malthusian crisis greater than already exists in parts of the world is that science and technology has kept agricultural productivity growing for many decades. Unfortunately, the unrestrained breeding has continued and the agricultural productivity it hitting limits (in arable land, fresh water, ability to use fertilizers, ability to increase yields, etc.), so the possibility of a Malthusian population adjustment (catastrophe/disaster) is growing. Utilitarian arguments must take into account the possibility that a point has been reached where adding to the number reduces the good (my definition of good includes quality of life, not just existence).
There seems to be a strong human tendency toward short-sightedness and believing that human actions are on too small a scale to have major impacts. Past examples of unexpected impacts include fisheries collapses and the Dust Bowl. Current ongoing examples include population growth, pollution (air, ground, freshwater, oceans, low Earth orbit) (hormones & their analogs are an especially problematic subset of water pollutants), growing dead zones off many coasts, more overfishing that is causing harvested species to shrink and threatening more fisheries collapses, resource depletion (oil, fresh water, etc.), habitat destruction, etc. Science and technology can only mitigate the problems until our species wakes up and slows down on the excessive breeding.
Reasons I included abortion in a list of topics where people should pay attention to scientific facts and apply scientific thinking:
Medicine, an art dependent on science, can determine whether continuing a pregnancy will endanger a woman's life.
Medicine can determine whether a fetus is currently viable.
Medicine can sometimes determine early if there are genetic defects so severe as to prevent a viable birth or to produce a severely limited life-expectancy.
Scientific study can provide a fan of future possibilities based on extrapolations of population, technology, resources, pollution, etc. to suggest what range of human population is sustainable on the Earth, and within that range what subset can support lives at levels above bare survival. People could then use such information in deciding whether adding more humans to the current population is a good idea.
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I will emphasize here that all message board posts are opinions. I am trying here to explain the basis of my opinions in this thread. I include many statements in factual format without wording qualifying them as opinions because adding all the qualifying wording would make a long post even longer (and harder to read).
This post is unintentionally exemplifying a corollary of my original point: it takes me a long time to write a reply when I try to be clear and careful rather than quick and casual.
My initial post's title and opening was a reference to the frequent failure to distinguish between frequently or loudly repeated arguments and valid arguments. Any argument about an issue that is the subject of scientific research must refer back to that research--arguments on the subject that reject the research on any basis other than better research are worthless. Not liking the research results is NOT a valid argument. Any appeal to emotion rather than logic is irrelevant to the validity of a result of scientific research. Anyone debating scientific issues needs to be able to think like a scientist.
Beyond topics normally considered to be scientific, I personally think that thinking like a scientist is one of the best approaches to many topics, but scientific thinking is only a preference rather than indispensible for non-science topics.
Definitions from OAD & RHD:
Science: the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observations and experiment. A particular area of this. A systematically organized body of knowledge on a particular subject. A branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truths systematically arranged and showing the operation of general laws. Knowledge, as of facts or principles; knowledge gained by systematic study.
The nature of science is something I didn't realize I need to spell out in this thread. There are already a couple long posts in the "Reality, science and climate (long)" thread. This is another attempt.
Science is a process and a way of thinking, not just a body of knowledge.
When I use the word science by itself I am usually thinking of the process: use of the scientific method and critical thinking. This was the intended topic of my original post. Since I didn't define terms, I think some people read science as referring to the bodies of knowledge of individual sciences.
Ideal science involves fact-checking and logical thinking. Real science inserts lots of human elements with emotions, possible falsification and claim-jumping for personal gain, clinging to positions despite evidence, etc., but in the long term (sometimes it takes generations) it reaches a reasonable approximation of the ideal. The peer review system used for many scientific publications is one attempt to minimize problems from the way real people approach science, but even that still doesn't always catch conflicts of interest and has many problems of its own. There are other mechanisms at work in science to try to minimize the impacts of unavoidable bias and error as well as deliberate fraud.
Ideal science includes awareness of all biases affecting research and methods for compensating or correcting for any effects of those biases. Science as practiced by real people undoubtedly misses some biases. I saw a nice list of 27 biases in a book excerpt recently: Family Bias, Authoritarian Bias, Attractiveness Bias, Confirmation Bias, Self-Serving Bias, In-Group Bias, Out-Group Bias, Group Consensus Bias, Bandwagon Bias, Projection Bias, Expectancy Bias, "Magic Number" Bias, Probability Bias, Cause-and-Effect Bias, Pleasure Bias, Personification Bias, Perceptual Bias, Perseverance Bias, False-Memory Bias, Positive-Memory Bias, Logic Bias, Persuasion Bias, Primacy Bias, Uncertainty Bias, Emotional Bias, Publication Bias, Blind-Spot Bias. A quick check of Wikipedia finds an even longer list of biases:
Science is descriptive (modeling reality), not prescriptive (telling what to do). Science can be very good at saying HOW to do something once one has decided for reasons outside of current science WHAT one wants to do, and it can be very good at saying what is most likely to result from doing (or not doing) something. Telling people what to do is in the realm of morality or spirituality outside the scope of current science. As I said in one of my earlier posts, I have seen very little published science dealing with spiritual questions, but I still hope the day will come when such questions are addressed by scientific research.
Most scientific knowledge (with the possible exception of mathematics) is more probabilistic than true/false, which some people aren't comfortable with. I recall a discussion at a conference years ago with a psychologist who didn't like the idea that all our knowledge of planetary orbits is just a best-fit solution to a lot of data rather than some sort of pure equations derived from first principles. Even the best-validated theories in science don't express absolute truths, just very high probabilities.
An example of thinking like a scientist at the personal level relates to recurring discussions of typos. Ever since I've participated in email & message board discussions of books I've joined occasional threads people start with complaints about typos. Several years ago I started keeping a record of typos I noticed during my reading. I now have typo counts for over 1,100 books that let me say BASED ON DATA that typos are not just a recent problem and not just limited to the romance genre. The "thinking like a scientist" part is that I systematically collected data and based conclusions on the collected data rather than just describing a vague impression or an anecdote based on a single example.
Another example of thinking like a scientist at the personal level relates to politics. Applying scientific thinking to politics includes getting facts and being aware of biases. For example, two publications I read and trust are The Washington Spectator and the Hightower Lowdown. I can't recall ever seeing facts mentioned in the Spectator contradicted by other sources later, and the Lowdown is almost as good. I'm aware of a bias of Hightower against genetically modified food that I don't share, which affects how I read his remarks on that topic. I've never seen an explanation for his bias in any of the issues I've read. I read my local newspaper with an awareness that it has a very right-wing editorial bias. A general scientific approach to the health care debate would have killed the "death panel" scare nonsense right away. Garbage like the "death panel" claim is why I tend to avoid many media sources as so low-fact (if not fact free) that they are not worth the time it takes to read/view/hear them.
I'm far from saying science is perfect, but the scientific method is the best available tool for modeling reality that I'm aware of.
Some limits of science:
I've never heard that anyone has actually come up with a successful proof that objective reality exists.
A common scientific assumption is that objective observations are possible. Replication of observations by multiple researchers does produce a reasonable approximation of objective observations from the subjective reality.
Many scientists assume the validity of materialism, thus limiting the scope of issues they think science can address.
Many scientists (explicitly or implicitly) use Occam's Razor (the simplest explanation is the best) even though it is a statement of human mental preference rather than a natural law.
Responding to other posts:
JaneO: I hope the above makes clear how the whole initial post was one topic for me, not a disjunction.
I included the quiz because it is referenced in the study I cited. Yes, it is trivial specific scientific knowledge, but a valid test of the ability to apply scientific reasoning would be much more difficult to design, would take much longer, and would be harder to get people to participate in.
Science and health care: health care depends on knowledge from many sciences, including anatomy, bacteriology, biology, botany, chemistry, dentistry, ecology, economics, endocrinology, epidemiology, genetics, gynecology, histochemistry, hypnology, immunology, microbiology, neuroanatomy, neurobiology, neurology, neuropathology, neurophysiology, nucleonics, nutrition, obstetrics, ophthalmology, optics, optometry, parasitology, pharmacology, physics, physiology, primatology, psychology, psychoneuroimmunology, sociology, thanatology, toxicology, virology, zoology, and undoubtedly many other sciences I didn't think of since I never studied medicine. Imagine trying to talk to a doctor without terminology from the sciences: "I feel/want mumble mumble mumble. You have a mumble mumble mumble." Understanding whether a vaccine is needed, effective and safe depends on science (e.g., the "swine" flu debate). Scientific study of real-world medical practice can identify effective vs. wasted efforts. As just one example, there are a lot of expensive drugs getting a lot of use due to advertising and promotion rather than studies proving good results. Scientific study of existing systems can also tell us real costs and benefits of existing government-run and private-enterprise health care--not just scare stories and partisan distortions.
Science and education: the USA seems to have developed a large subculture that doesn't teach scientific thinking because such thinking threatened some people's religion a century or more ago. People who grow up without understanding scientific thinking are less able to contribute to an increasingly technology-dependent society or make informed decisions on public policy issues involving science.
Science and pollution/cleanup: scientific studies are identifying more types and consequences of pollution all the time. Cleanup technologies are dependent on science.
Sterling: The over-saturation I was referencing with the word "volume" is the excess of NON-science circulating on scientific topics. On religions, AFAIK, all "people of the book", no matter how many warring sects they form, claim that their particular book interpreted in their particular way is ultimate authority.
Golfer: I skimmed the items in your links. They are much too long for me to be willing to read completely on a topic that has already wasted a lot of time when I could be pleasure-reading. (I visit this site regularly because I'm a book lover.) Your links are actually a first in many months of posts on this topic. Many of the comments are the same disingenuous or fallacious objections I have seen repeated too many times already, but a subset seem to be legitimate scientific questions. I still think the global warming model is solid enough that it only needs tweaking, but it looks like some of the questions will take more data to settle.
The bottom line of why I think the ability to think scientifically is important is that due to breeding beyond a level of population sustainable with old knowledge all of humanity now needs science and technology to survive.
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:01 pm
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Mark wrote:
This post is primarily about the sideshow Sterling started.
About the sideshow that
started, Mark? Look, I used the example of abortion as a primary example of showing how pure science may be a contradiction in terms and to demonstrate how reliance on science does not always create clear solutions free from human values - religious or otherwise.
If you believed that it was a sideshow, you could have requested a different example or simply answered my post on pure philosophical terms. I would have been willing to do it.
As it is, you created a post that had several nasty little jabs towards people who follow religious values. When I answer you, you accuse me of starting a 'sideshow'. Another poster challenged you and your answer is tl;dr.
The abortion shift in wording was from Sterling. Her post used "human being" in 1 line & "human life" in the next. I posted about "human being" because I didn't even spot her wording shift.
Trust me, the wording shift was not an attempt to move the goalposts. It was due to the fact that human life is human life regardless of brain wave activity or autonomy. Some would classify a fetus as human life but not a human being as it is inseparable from its host. If you want me to go back and change 'human life' to 'human being', I will do so.
I was responding to the post at the level of the post, which was arbitrary assertions labeled as facts.
And yours was full of nothing but facts, I suppose?
Abortion discussions are highly emotional partly because definitions of most of the terms used are beyond the scope of current science, so every party to any discussion can define terms to suit themselves.
I used the term 'infant' to describe it when they are post birth.
I used the terms 'fetus' and 'zygote' to describe them as they develop.
The only terms that you may take issues with are 'human being' (which I explained my use of) and human life, which is rather difficult to disprove.
hu·man(hyōō'mən) n.
1. A member of the genus Homo and especially of the species H. sapiens.
life: /laɪf/ n. 1.
the condition that distinguishes organisms from inorganic objects and dead organisms, being manifested by growth through metabolism, reproduction, and the power of adaptation to environment through changes originating internally.
Since a zygote is of homo sapien genetic coding and respirates, develops, defecates and requires nutrition, all standards for "life," human life would be the correct term. A parasitic human life, but human life still.
Based on these definitions, my use of the word "parasite" for a zygote, embryo or fetus (any stage of development in the womb) is correct.
You would be correct. You would also be correct to use the word 'incubator' instead of 'woman'. Shall we switch to that term for future debates?
Sterling's rape example just demonstrates how different our values are.
When I used the rape example, I said, "given the facts above...it is logically unsound". I was arguing based on a darwinist logic, not on values. Morals do not enter into the equation.
Your original post contained the following:
yet all too many modern laws are fundamentally religious in origin rather than rational.
Yet in your counter-argument you use the terms "moral", "self-determination", "rights", all value laded terms rather than rational, factual descriptions.
You can't have it both ways,
. You can't argue to leave out all belief based systems out of law and science save the ones that you favour.
Once you assign human rights to any pre-birth stage of development, what is to stop more extensions? New extremists could want to assign rights to gametes because those also have the potential to lead to a new human being.
Once again (saying nothing of my own position on the argument), there's a counter-example of why infants should receive rights when a fetus at the same age of development does not. Read Utilitarian bio-ethics by the notorious Dr Singer at Princeton University.
Singer, Peter.
Practical Ethics, 2nd edition, Cambridge
, (1993), pp. 175-217
Infants are sentient beings who are neither rational nor self- conscious. So if we turn to consider the infants in themselves, independently of the attitudes of their parents, since their species is not relevant to their moral status, the principles that govern the wrongness of killing non-human animals who are sentient but not rational or self-conscious must apply here too. As we saw, the most plausible arguments for attributing a right to life to a being apply only if there is some awareness of oneself as a being existing over time, or as a continuing mental self. Nor can respect for autonomy apply where there is no capacity for autonomy.
The Netherlands also allow euthanasia for infants with certain diseases even if diseases are not terminal.
If you want to use Utilitarian arguments (greatest good for greatest number) for use of limited resources as a basis for arbitrary survival decisions, you need to look at the opposite of Sterling's suggestion.
Depends on whether we're discussing Utilitarianism or Utilitarian bioethics. I was discussing the latter, hence the reliance on the notorious Dr Singer. To answer your hypothetical scenario using both utilitarianism and utilitarian ethics, you would be correct in saying that the zygotes lack a proven value while elder may have more of an attrition value. The correct answer in that case would be to design a test that regularly measures value and production for over a set span of time (let's say about every 6 years, because historical child labour laws show that children as young as 6 were working in factories). If the member of society - whether adult, elder or child - is failing to produce up to standards, remove all resources from it. That would cull the population in a hurry. But it certainly would not be a world I would want to live in.
Reasons I included abortion in a list of topics where people should pay attention to scientific facts and apply scientific thinking:
I can answer every one of your facts with a counter on why values and beliefs do and must apply as well as science.
Medicine, an art dependent on science, can determine whether continuing a pregnancy will endanger a woman's life.
And if she chooses to carry to term regardless, doctors cannot overrule her.
Medicine can determine whether a fetus is currently viable.
Yet people will often have abortions even past the existing date of viability. The UK recently had a huge dust-up when they tried to change the cut-off for abortions from 24 weeks to 22 weeks. Amillia Taylor was delivered at 21 weeks and recently turned 2
Medicine can sometimes determine early if there are genetic defects so severe as to prevent a viable birth or to produce a severely limited life-expectancy.
Choice and values still enter into it. If a couple decides to abort their perfectly healthy, genetically perfect fetus, while another couple carries to term a high risk fetus with spinal bifuda and Downs' Syndrome, they are legally entitled to.
Scientific study can provide a fan of future possibilities based on extrapolations of population, technology, resources, pollution, etc. to suggest what range of human population is sustainable on the Earth, and within that range what subset can support lives at levels above bare survival. People could then use such information in deciding whether adding more humans to the current population is a good idea.
Then you go into the ethical tangle of who has to comply and who enforces the rules. Third World countries have an exponentially higher birth rate than developed countries. Should we tell them to cull their breeding rates to match Europe's or they will no longer receive foreign aid?
I believe
hit the nail on the head when she said that science tells us how things are and ethics and beliefs tell us what to do with the information
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:18 pm
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Going on, I read your most recent post and was glad to see that you acknowledge the limits of science and the scientific method. I prefer systems theory myself, but that's with its own weakness.
The over-saturation I was referencing with the word "volume" is the excess of NON-science circulating on scientific topics.
That would depend on the information presented. I found out that Darwin's "tree of life" had been debunked from an intelligent design paper. Although I didn't agree with the rest of the paper, I went back and researched the study debunking the tree of life and was surprised to find that it was indeed valid. I did a similar thing on the 'death panels' that you mentioned; I looked up Sarah Palin's original quote, then researched the authorities that she was referring to and saw how they could apply (or not apply) to the current situation.
On religions, AFAIK, all "people of the book", no matter how many warring sects they form, claim that their particular book interpreted in their particular way is ultimate authority.
, trust me, all people are convinced that doing certain things a certain way is the only correct way, not just religious people. It's human nature. Just watch a newlywed couple trying to agree about the 'correct' way to load the dishwasher
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Sterling, on all the points in the abortion sub-thread where I said science must be used and you said values must also be used to make choices, all the abortion arguments I have seen in the USA that want to ban ALL abortions on religious grounds would completely DENY the ability to choose. (I should emphasize that while almost all attempts I read about to ban abortion are religiously motivated, there are also many religiously-motivated pro-abortion arguments. Look up the group called the Religious Coalition FOR Reproductive Choice.) I wouldn't like the culling world you propose either, but that whole drift into utilitarian discussion started from your reference to children as valuable property ("a potentially valuable piece of property"). Unfortunately, I've read a lot of fiction & nonfiction suggesting that barring drastic social changes we are heading for a world likely to be just as unpleasant. One SF example I still remember decades after reading it is "The Sheep Look Up" by John Brunner, where the death of America is an optimistic solution. There have been more than a few suggestions that human actions are in the process of causing a mass extinction event on a scale unseen since the end of the age of dinosaurs.
I made a how/what distinction in an earlier post, but I want to emphasize that science has the potential to address "what to do" questions--science has not yet done so to date due to some of the materialist-assumption-imposed limits I mentioned earlier.
The mindset of science could be described as more oriented to questions than answers. Every new answer opens up new questions. Years ago the science fiction author Theodore Sturgeon was associated with the phrase "ask the next question" symbolized graphically by a letter Q with an arrow. This is the heart of science as well as science fiction.
The process of science accepts that any given piece of "scientific knowledge" could be invalidated later, though there is a definite hierarchy of degrees of certainty. Well-established bodies of knowledge are doubted much less than new or cutting edge fields, though even they can be changed by strong enough evidence. Some past "knowledge" survives the processes of science in revised or refined forms. Examples include the mesmerism of a couple centuries ago leading to the hypnotism of today and Darwinian evolution. Darwin did an amazing job with the knowledge of his day but was seriously hampered by the extant model of inheritance (which reads really strangely now that we have some understanding of genes). It took a century for various sciences to fill in a lot of details and explain a lot of mechanisms underlying the evolutionary processes Darwin described. Some other past "knowledge" is essentially discarded or invalidated by later science. Off the top of my head, a few examples of former & now devalued "knowledge" are epicycles, phlogiston, phrenology, N-rays, and the luminiferous ether.
This is an OT board on a site devoted to the romance genre. The whole genre celebrates making the emotional choice over the rational choice when a character has an option. I enjoy the genre or I wouldn't have read thousands of books in it, but I, like many readers separate fiction from reality. The genre includes many novels with heroines choosing "bad boy" heroes over stable (boring) good providers, but I also see many posts from readers saying those heroes are good choices only in fiction and they would run the other way IRL.
This topic brought to mind a chicken-and-egg speculation that I don't think I've ever seen addressed, though there could have been lots of studies I never heard of. Science deals with knowledge that is never final--it is always open for correction or improvement. Liberal or progressive thinking has a very similar attitude toward societies--they are always open for improvement. (The opposite attitude being that the past is somehow perfect.) Does a tendency for scientists in general to be politically more liberal or progressive (seen in the survey I cited in the OP) reflect an underlying psychology that drew them to scientific careers in the first place? Does scientific training increase progressive thinking? Does progressive thinking make scientific training easier? If both scientific and liberal thought reflect an underlying character inclination toward openness to change, how deeply ingrained is the character trait? Is it as hard to change as handedness, only easy to change during limited learning periods like learning a native language, or much easier to change?
Speaking personally, I was interested in science many years before I was ever interested in politics, but both interests could be reflections of a more basic aspect of my nature.
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I've been pretty obsessed with New Jersey and New York these past weeks, trying to help send money and other necessities up there to areas I know are in great need. I have friends who had no power until the last day or so. Some others still don't have power. That's hard. Especially in the cold weather. I hope and pray that they are getting the assistance they need.
I live in an area of D.C. where the trees have historically come down pretty fast, and we've lost power almost immediately. During Sandy, I was at home waiting for a tree to come through the roof or window. I had a back-up power battery ready for when the lights went out.
But we never lost power, and my part of the neighborhood suffered no destruction. I was shocked and immensely grateful. I really think we got saved this time. I'm not sure why we were spared, but I am so ridiculously grateful.
I can't imagine what it's like to lose a whole neighborhood or town or community. I hope I never have to experience it.
The closest I've come to a loss of such magnitude was in 1983 when my apartment building burned down to the ground in a seven-alarm fire. I was living and working in Baltimore at the time, and it was two days before New Years. I was working evening shift at the time (in a psychiatric hospital) and had gone out dancing with colleagues after work. I came home in the early hours of the morning to find my street blocked off and lots of noise. I remember just a few things about that night/morning.
It was freezing. I remember that. I remember being freezing for days and being unable to shake the waves of chills. In fact, reports of the fire indicated that below-freezing temperatures created problems for the fire department. I remember leaving my car parked near the barricade and walking down the street without a coat toward the fire, shivering uncontrollably. I didn't know what to do or who to talk to. This was way before cell phones and email. Everyone I knew was at home asleep or out of town for the holidays. Luckily, most of my neighbors were gone for the holidays so there were no fatalities.
I remember being taken to a residential home across the street from the fire where I sat for I don't know how long. There was nothing to do. The building was burning down, and there really was just nothing to do. I may have been there for minutes or hours. I'm not sure. But at some point, I left in a daze. I remember walking back to my car wondering where I should go.
My parents and baby brother were out of town, due back the next day. I could have gone to my parents' house, but I remember thinking that I should let someone know. I called my mother's sister, and she instructed me to come right over. I remember her offering me something to help me sleep, which, at the time, I thought was an awful gesture. I was very prudish about drugs and couldn't believe that someone would offer me any.
I know, I know. But really, I was very prudish about things like that and so judgmental back then. I was working in a mental institution where way too many patients had self-medicated. I was pretty high and mighty about drugs. But, not to worry, my dear Aunt Suzy, these days I would absolutely take anything I was offered legally.
Just sayin'.
The next day I drove to my parents' house, which was about 15 minutes away. I waited for them to pull the car up in front of the house, literally pacing back and forth between the kitchen table and the front window, where I would look obsessively up the street for any sign of their car.
I remember I was smoking, which was something I generally would never do in front of my family. But I recall thinking that smoking was probably okay the day after everything you own is destroyed.
My parents finally pulled up in front of the house with my baby brother in tow. I was 21 at the time. My brother would have been 11. My parents got out of the car as I walked out of the front door. I must have looked less than good because my mother looked directly at me and said, "go back in the house and tell us in there."
My poor mother. She must have thought someone was sick or had died. I'm pretty sure she didn't expect the news of a building burnt down. My parents reacted the way I now understand they will always react. They were relieved that nobody was sick or dead. To my parents, anything short of that is just not worth being upset over. It's a good quality and a bad quality. Sometimes, when bad things happen, you need people to say things like, "Oh My God, I can't believe it" or "I don't know how you'll go on."
My parents would never say anything like that. Their opinion is that of course you'll go on since you really have no choice.
I can't describe how empty I felt that day and for the next weeks ahead. I had nothing. There was nothing left of my things or my routine or my life. I felt very tired, like I just didn't know what to do next.
My parents gave me a credit card and told me to go shopping. I'm sure that sounds great, but it's awful. It is almost impossible to build a wardrobe from scratch. It's depressing. I remember buying a few pairs of corduroy pants, a few tops and boots and that was what I had. That was pretty much all I had for quite some time. In a way, it was easier to have very little than to make decisions about what a new life should look like. If I could go back, I would tell my 21-year-old self that there's never a rush to make your life look like something. Just keep moving forward and your life will emerge.
Oddly enough, it was probably my brother who was most affected. A day or two after the fire, my parents and brother went to see the damage. I don't remember going, but I must have at some point because I have memories of thinking how little is left after a fire. It was quite a large building of several stories and yet, after the fire, there was very little on the burnt ground. I'll have to ask my brother. He'll remember.
My brother came home from the visit very sad. He had been looking for my "diaries" — although by that point in my life I had journals. He believed that I would be most upset about losing my writing. I didn't have the heart to tell him that I would probably have looked for my jewelry first. The good thing about writing is that you can always write more. And, for me at that age, re-reading old writing wasn't that enjoyable. I had been a moody and depressed teen. My writing was not exactly a fun read. To this day, I believe that my brother has a hair clip of mine that he found smoldering in the ashes. That one gesture made me love him more than I had already loved him, which was a pretty huge amount.
I moved very soon after the fire to an apartment building located a mile from the fire. The apartment was completely empty except for a sofa and an old television my aunt had given to me. I think the sofa was probably hers too. I don't remember. The closet was empty except for a few hangers that held my tiny new wardrobe. Eventually, someone gave me an old bed and I bought a sofa. I remember that the apartment had an echo from being so empty.
It's hard for me to think about the fire or the first week after the fire. The pain was indescribable. I recall feeling like I would just melt into the ground. I couldn't imagine what I would do about anything and was paralyzed with emptiness.
But here's the weird thing.
Within a few weeks, I was enjoying my new freedom. I had very few possessions, and I liked it. I liked that my world really just revolved around me. I liked the simplicity.
It's very hard to think about what life would have been like without the fire. I don't know how long I would have stayed in that building or whether I would have ever met my best friend, who I met a few years later. Maybe every single thing in my life would have been different. I don't know.
What I do know is that possessions mean very little to me these days. Now don't think I'm saying I don't like my stuff. I do like my stuff. In fact, I LOVE my stuff.
But I'd be fine without my stuff. Stuff can be replaced. Even the sentimental stuff can be replaced. The stuff is actually much less of you and your life than you think it is. But it seems like a big deal when you're scared to death of losing it.
Just so you know, I am not the type to say "one day you'll be glad this happened."
I am not glad that there was a fire.
But it was a lifetime (or three) ago and, for whatever reason, what came out of it was almost all good. There was very little bad that came out of it, except for an expensive 1984 when I replaced clothes and books.
There's really no point to this essay. I have no words of wisdom — especially not for any Sandy victims who have lost much more than their belongings. I only know that every day you're alive is a day you should try to keep moving forward. Backward isn't good and stagnant gets dull.
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SAN ANTONIO – How many times over the years has Kobe Bryant said the playoffs are about execution, not momentum?
Sure enough, the Lakers' patchwork lineups were missing cohesion — and all the individual elements Bryant brings — in a lackluster postseason opener Sunday.
The Lakers lost to the San Antonio Spurs, 91-79, because of a feeble offensive attack despite the return to action of sore-legged point guard Steve Nash. The absence of the injured Bryant's shot creation for himself and others also was glaring.
Starting a five-man playoff unit that didn't play a single second together in the regular season — Elias Sports Bureau could not quantify if it was first time in NBA history that has happened — the Lakers predictably lacked ideal togetherness and aggressiveness in Game 1.
"If we want it, we've got to go take it," Lakers center Dwight Howard said. "That's what we've got to do the next game."
The Lakers had the momentum of winning their last five regular-season games — the final two-plus without Bryant — while San Antonio finished the season as "discombobulated" as their coach, Gregg Popovich, could ever remember entering the playoffs, especially on defense.
It didn't matter, as the Spurs held control the entire way Sunday — as teams with superior execution will. The Lakers' only lead of the game came at 2-0, after Nash hit a jumper off a Howard screen in a rare demonstration of just the style Lakers coach Mike D'Antoni promised when he was hired.
Injuries and uncertainty over strategy went on to dominate the Lakers' season instead. That pick-and-roll game, along with Bryant's isolation attack, largely went to the junkyard for what Popovich describes as a "post-oriented" Lakers offense of late.
Asked about the Lakers without Bryant, Tony Parker said: "It's a totally different team," adding about the Spurs' game plan: "Everybody was focused on stopping (Pau) Gasol and Dwight."
Gasol's six and Howard's four turnovers led to the Lakers doubling San Antonio's nine turnovers — contributing to the Spurs' 17-2 advantage in fastbreak points — and left D'Antoni citing turnovers as "the difference in the game."
Howard has been openly asking for the Lakers to play inside-out this season, but the Lakers' 3-of-15 3-point shooting didn't help create any space inside at any point Sunday. The Spurs' swarming defense knew what was coming — and the Lakers didn't have the experience executing that post-up style together. It's simply a tough spot for the Lakers considering Popovich said this pregame about the playoffs: "You have to do what you practiced for 82 games — well. You do what you did all year, and either it's good enough or it's not."
Despite Nash making that first shot, the Lakers scored just 15 first-quarter points. Gasol's three baskets in that time were a 16-footer, a 17-footer and a put-back. Unable to travel with the team because of his ruptured Achilles' tendon, Bryant tried in his own way to help with execution via Twitter, at one point suggesting Gasol take over the offense by going to the post and refusing to leave it.
Although D'Antoni stayed optimistic about Game 2 Wednesday and the possibility the Lakers would hit more jumpers, the coach flashed the frustration he sometimes does after tough losses upon being asked about Bryant on Twitter emphasizing the ball going to the post.
D'Antoni said they tried to get the ball inside, then rolled his eyes, saying: "It's great to have that commentator."
D'Antoni tried to downplay the situation, saying: "He's a fan right now. You guys put a little bit more importance on that kind of fan. ... He wants to be part of it, so that's good."
And Bryant tweeted in response: "A fan?? Lol." But he later noted that he won't tweet during the next game to avoid any possible distraction to his team.
The reality is that Bryant can't do much from so far away. And D'Antoni is in a bind trying to build an identity at the final hour — while additionally missing Bryant's competitive drive when he's just "a fan" instead of bringing his usual fire on the court.
It was the Spurs' veteran, Manu Ginobili, who had the most Kobe-like stretch taking over the game and finished with 18 points in 19 minutes.
"He does what he does," Popovich said about Ginobili — though he could've just as well been speaking of a healthy Bryant.


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Holiday safety tips from the Banner Churchill Medical Center Emergency Medical Services team:
"The sap of the poinsettia is bitter and unpleasant, but the plant is not deadly," says Steve Towne, Emergency Medical Services Director.
"That has become one of the urban legends over the years. Poinsettias are listed as a toxic plant because they will cause irritation in the mouth if ingested and possibly vomiting. This is especially true with pets as they attempt to erase the bad taste from their mouths."
Holly and mistletoe
"Both holly and mistletoe are very toxic if ingested," Towne says.
Berries of both plants can cause severe stomach illness or other problems. Real berries on both holly and mistletoe are often replaced with artificial berries that could pose a choking hazard if swallowed by a child.
Pine trees are not poisonous but pine needles can be dangerous if a child tries to eat them. It is a good idea to keep the area under the tree clean, especially as the tree dries out and the needles fall more frequently, Towne advises.
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- Remove any of the remaining plant from the mouth.
- Wash around the mouth and the hands.
- Call the Banner Poison and Drug Information Center at 1(800) 222-1222
- Follow the nurse's instructions.
Other holiday hazards to children and pets
- Lamp oils can cause severe damage to the stomach linings
- Some aromatic oils can cause a deadly form of pneumonia in the lungs or seizures if swallowed.
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It looks like Evelyn Lozada, Jennifer Williams and Shaunie O'Neal will have to find a new punching bag next season.
Royce Reed, mother of Dwight Howard's son, announced on twitter she would not be returning to Season 4 of VH1's Basketball Wives due to "artistic differences." For some odd reason, Reed doesn't seem to find drink throwing, cat fights and man bashing very artistic. Imagine that.
"Good Afternoon! As of right now I have decided NOT 2return 4 Season 4 of BBW due 2 artistic differences.Things may change but as of now, NO!"
Chad Ochocinco's fiance Evelyn Lozada is possibly out for Season 4 of Basketball Wives and Meeka Claxton, wife to Speedy Claxton, was not asked back for another season.
Three down, six more to go!
Reed hinted that her decision wasn't a negotiation tactic and tweeted that "some things have nothing to do with money, but all to do with images/careers! Never sell your soul! Respect is hard 2 come by!"
The Basketball Wives star is keeping busy as she plans to release an energy drink, book series and workout video.
Reed was right about one thing, respect is hard to come by. But it would have been nice to figure that out three seasons ago.
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Mission Santa Barbara founded by Spanish Franciscans.
Getting There
Unless you want your road trip to begin in Utah, take the hour and a half flight from Salt Lake City International Airport to Los Angeles International Airport. Otherwise, take I-15 South and take exit 109A to merge onto I-10 West toward LA.
Why Go Now
Summer's over, kids are back in school and the California coast is clear. Those in the know will tell you that fall offers the most beautiful weather of all in this state famous for beautiful weather.
Where to Stay
If the earthy allure of Big Sur makes you want to spend the night, check in to Ventana Inn & Spa for a unique combination of nature and luxury. Situated on 243 acres of meadows and wooded hillsides, Ventana also offers a world-class spa, rustic but elegant accommodations and one of the best restaurants in the area. 48123 Highway 1, Big Sur, ventanainn.com
Day One: LA to Santa Barbara
Don't waste a minute in crowded Los Angeles. Head north on State Route 1, aka the Pacific Coast Highway, to Malibu, where oil magnate J. Paul Getty's incredible art collection is displayed in the ancient-feeling Getty Villa (17985 Pacific Coast Highway, Pacific Palisades, getty.edu). Then drive to Ventura for an invigorating walk on bustling Ventura Pier and amazing views of the coast. Stop at Beach House Tacos (668 Harbor Blvd., Ventura, 805-648-3177) on the pier for a late lunch. Enjoy your first night in Santa Barbara, and indulge in Bacara (8301 Hollister Ave., Santa Barbara, bacararesort.com) for both characteristic old California charm and luxurious accommodations. Must-try restaurants flourish in this city. For seafood in a romantic setting, dine at The Harbor Restaurant on Stearns Wharf (210 Stearns Way, harborsb.com).
Day Two: Santa Barbara to Cambria
Before leaving Santa Barbara, do some aimless wandering and shopping in the Historic Arts District. And don't miss Mission Santa Barbara, considered one of California's prettiest buildings. Then it's back on the road for some wine tasting. Instead of continuing north on PCH, take the inland route along Route 101, and stop for some swilling and lunch in the Santa Ynez Valley wine region (santaynezwinecountry.com). If you've seen the movie Sideways, you'll recognize some of the vineyards. Back on PCH, savor ocean views and fresh oysters right out of the water at one of the many casual eateries on Morro Bay, then head to the lesser-known seaside village of Cambria for the night. The idyllic forest-meets-ocean small town setting makes it a no-fuss stopover. Lodge at El Colibri (5620 Moonstone Beach Dr., Cambria, elcolibrihotel.com) and dine at Robin's (4095 Burton Dr., robinsrestaurant.com) or the Sea Chest (6216 Moonstone Beach Dr., seachestrestaurant.com).
Day Three: Cambria to Monterey
Stop first at Hearst Castle, (750 Hearst Castle Rd., San Simeon, hearstcastle.org) newspaper magnate William Randolph Hearst's enormous, opulent and remote mansion just north of Cambria in San Simeon. Buy tickets in advance. Then pull off at Piedras Blancas Beach to see the seals sunbathe and battle for territory. The next stretch of road is driving at its best. Big Sur, where the road winds high on cliffs above crashing surf, with no sign of civilization for miles. The terrain then becomes beautifully forested, and when civilization returns, it's noticeably earthy. The beatniks that once lived here can no longer afford Big Sur, but they have left behind echoes of a free-loving vibe. At the north end of Big Sur, stop in the artsy enclave of Carmel-by-the-Sea. On your final short stretch into Monterey, consider detouring along the private 17-mile drive past Pebble Beach, where the coast and golf course are considered among the planet's most picturesque. Spend your final night at the recently renovated Hyatt Regency Monterey (1 Old Golf Course Rd., monterey.hyatt.com) perched on the historic—and public—Del Monte Golf Course. Dine on-site at TusCA, a unique blending the best of Tuscan and California food and wine.
In Monterey, play an early 18 holes on Del Monte Golf Course, or take a short walk to the water for breakfast at Loulou's Griddle in the Middle on Wharf No. 2 (loulousgriddle.com). The egg dishes conceited with local seafood are must-tries. And you can't visit Monterey without hitting the Monterey Bay Aquarium (866 Cannery Row, Monterey, montereybayaquarium.org). The unforgettable jellyfish displays alone are worth the admission price. Before heading home, tour Monterey's wine country, just a few minutes inland (montereywines.org).


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The India Independence Day celebration on Saturday, Aug. 17 in Hockessin will feature a parade and an open house, hosted by the Hockessin Hindu Temple, 760 Yorklyn Road.
The parade will begin at 11 a.m., with formation in the Hockessin Memorial Fire Hall parking lot starting at 10 a.m. The parade will cross Route 141 and continue on Yorklyn Road to the Temple.
The celebration after the parade will include American and Indian flag raising ceremonies and national anthems at noon, and cultural programs at 1 p.m.
Delicious Indian food will be served.
At 3 p.m., a movie will be shown.
Open house tours of the new Temple will be held throughout the day, starting at 11 a.m.
The community is invited.
For more information, visit www.hindutemplede.com or call (302) 235-7020.
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When New German cinema directors like R. W. Fassbinder, Ulrike Ottinger, and Werner Schroeter explored issues of identity—national, political, personal, and sexual—music and film style played crucial roles. Most studies of the celebrated film movement, however, have sidestepped the role of music, a curious oversight given its importance to German culture and nation formation. Caryl Flinn's study reverses this trend, identifying styles of historical remembrance in which music participates. Flinn concentrates on those styles that urge listeners to interact with difference—including that embodied in Germany's difficult history—rather than to "master" or "get past" it.
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Month of Publication: February
Year of Publication: 2004
Location: Berkeley, CA
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Lavell Crawford has caught a few breaks over the past two decades, most notably when he finished runner-up in the 2007 season of NBC's Last Comic Standing, and most recently nabbing a recurring role in this season of AMC's Breaking Bad.
But Crawford, 42, continues to tour as a stand-up comedian, and debuts his latest hour special, Lavell Crawford: Can A Brother Get Some Love, tonight on Comedy Central. In the special, Crawford tells several stories about his childhood and how his mother used to treat him. We talked a little bit about that as well as about
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Early last month, we got the first glimpse of a new sketch comedy show coming to Fox, In The Flow with Affion Crockett. A master of impressions and characters, the titular TV veteran will take on most of the acting duties himself. Perhaps this is Fox's way of getting back the magic of its now defunct (and horribly under-appreciated) sketch show MadTV, without dealing with so much personnel? The fact that Jamie Foxx is behind In The Flow can only help Crockett's chances of survival as a weekly comedy star on network television. That, and his comedy chops, which you can check out below before the debut bows this Sunday on Fox from 9 to 10 pm EST. In this clip, Crockett manages to become Jay-Z, Kanye West, Lil Wayne and Cory Gunz.
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Pete Batterton and Missy Allen were named the Senior Boys and Senior Girls All-Around champions, respectively, during the 76th annual Kids Rodeo held Aug. 2-4 in La Junta. The senior girls saddle was sponsored by Colorado Bank and Trust, Colorado East Bank and Trust and Gail and Millie Allen. The senior boys saddle was sponsored by Tri-County GM, Tri-County Ford-Lincoln-Mercury, Mirakhor Ranch LLC. Pictures of all classes of all-around champions will appear in Wednesday's paper.
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