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Cats living in the wild often fall as victims to a number of diseases and injuries. It is the job of the Clan's medicine cat to treat these conditions.[1]
Diseases and Conditions
Chest Infections
Whitecough and greencough are the most common chest infections known to the Clan cats. Whitecough is the milder form, but if untreated, it can develop into the much more severe greencough.[2] Cats usually catch it during leaf-fall and leaf-bare, and sometimes it develops into large-scale epidemics. It can be fatal for elders and kits,[2] and it has claimed the lives of several cats. It spreads quickly and is highly contagious.
Medicine cats treat it using catmint.[3] The first ThunderClan medicine cat, Cloudspots, found out that this was the best remedy.[4] If fevers accompany the cough, tansy or borage is used as well.[3]
In Into the Wild, a disease named kitten-cough is mentioned.[5] Runningnose tells about an herb used to cure it, though it has disappeared since Twolegs came to the forest.[5]
In Moonrise, Mothwing mentions blackcough as a form of chest infection.[6]
In Moth Flight's Vision, Micah mentions that redcough was an illness in the farm where a cat coughed up blood.[7]
Poisoning is the ingestion of a substance that causes harm to the body, such as:
- Eating or drinking poisonous substances or plants such as deathberries. Kits are the ones who usually fall victim to this, being curious and unaware of the danger.[8]
- Eating poisoned or rotten prey or drinking tainted water.[9]
- Inhaling too much smoke from a fire.[10]
- Being bitten by a venomous animal such as a snake.[11]
If only a small quantity of poison is ingested, the cat usually just receives a bellyache, but larger amounts can cause death. Medicine cats treat these bellyaches with yarrow or nettle leaves, while mild bellyaches can be treated with juniper or watermint. If a cat has been severely poisoned (as in eating deathberries, as Sorrelkit does in The Darkest Hour) he/she may become unconscious for a length of time.[12]
Rat-Borne Infections
The cats sometimes fall victims to infections carried by rats. One of these infections is called Carrionplace Disease. The first ShadowClan medicine cat, Pebbleheart, realized that rats were a source of disease.[13] As ShadowClan cats sometimes ate the rats from the Carrionplace in The Forest, they were prone to catch these diseases. This happens in Rising Storm, when two ShadowClan cats, Littlecloud and Whitethroat, come to ThunderClan for help because their Clan is in chaos from the deadly and contagious disease. Yellowfang sends them away because she doesn't want ThunderClan to become infected, but Cinderpelt wants to help them and comes up with a cure. Nightstar dies from Carrionplace disease during this time, which is why the Clan was in chaos (they thought it had ripped all nine lives from him when in fact he only had one life because Brokenstar was still alive). Burdock root is used to stop infection from rat bites.[14][15]
Loss of Sensory Perception
A cat may lose his or her eyesight or hearing due to old age as One-eye of ThunderClan did before her death[16] or from accidents and infections, or birth defects. These conditions usually end their career as a warrior, as they cannot hunt or fight efficiently, and must retire as elders, such as Longtail. Kits born with defects usually die young,[17] unless they have special skills compensating it, like in Jayfeather's case. Kits that are white with blue eyes have a higher chance of being born deaf, like Snowkit.[18]
Joint Aches
A condition usually associated with elders, the joints gradually degenerating with age, causing pain and difficulty to move. Damp environments can cause the appearance of this condition, so apprentices must make sure that the moss they gather for bedding is completely dry. It is usually treated using daisy or ragwort poultices.[source?]
A toothache is caused by a cracked tooth, cavities, or an infection in the mouth. Alder bark is used to soothe the pain.[19]
Fever is an abnormally high temperature of the body. It is not a disease in itself, but it usually signs the presence of an infection, such as greencough or an infected wound. If needed, it can be treated with feverfew,[20] borage[21] or lavender.[20]
Chills are mostly associated with cold weather or being submerged in cold water for a long period of time. Although this condition is mild and is not a disease, it has claimed the lives of Mosskit[22] and Hollykit.[23] Kits and elders are more at risk of dying when they get a chill. Licking a cat's fur the wrong way gets the blood flowing again. A poultice of lavender, catmint and feverfew is also a good remedy.[24]
Other Diseases
Several other diseases were mentioned in the books; however, the cats do not have names for them. Examples include the conditions of Pebblefur,[25] Shellheart,[26] Tawnyspots,[27], Leopardstar,[28] Petalfall,[29][30] and Ravenpaw.[31]
Wounds are injuries when the skin and the muscles beneath are torn, cut, or punctured. They may put a cat's life in danger due to blood loss, infections, or the damage of the organs. Wounds are the most common injuries, due to the cats always fighting enemy Clans, badgers, or foxes.
Minor wounds heal on their own in no time, but severe wounds must be treated by a medicine cat. This treatment includes cleaning it thoroughly with the tongue, stopping the bleeding by pressing cobwebs on it, and applying poultices to prevent infection and help it to heal. Herbs used in the poultices include goldenrod, marigold, burdock root or (in the case of rat bites) wild garlic. If the wound becomes infected, chervil or horsetail is used as well. The pain can be eased with poppy seeds or willow bark.[3]
Sprains are injuries to ligaments of a joint, caused by being stretched beyond their normal capacity and possibly torn.[32] It causes severe pain and decreased ability to move the joint. The cat must rest for several days.
Joint Dislocation
Joint dislocation is the displacement of a bone from its normal joint. Medicine cats treat this condition by first feeding the patient poppy seeds to make them sleepy so they don't feel it as much, and then forcing the limb back into the joint.[33]
Cracked Pads
The paw pads may crack while walking long distances on hard surfaces, or due to cold weather. Elders are especially prone to this condition. It is treated with a poultice of coltsfoot or yarrow. Dock leaf poultices are also used to cool cracked pads.
Broken Bones
A broken bone is usually the result of an accident, such as falling down from a high place,[34] or being hit by a monster.[35] Cats most often break their legs, and while medicine cats try to bind the bone with cobwebs, the injury usually results in the cat remaining crippled for the rest of his or her life. The only cat known to fully recover after breaking a leg was Cinderheart.[36] A more severe injury is when a cat breaks his or her backbone. This results in the cat being unable to feel or move parts of his or her body.[37] If the break is bad enough the cat will be killed on or shortly after impact.[37] Briarlight broke her backbone, and as a result, her back legs no longer function.[38] Wildfur also broke his backbone, and since he only sat in his nest all day, he got fluid in his lungs and eventually died from not exercising.[37]
Book Mentions
Chest Infections
Chest infections mentioned in the Warriors books come in three stages; whitecough, greencough and blackcough. Little is known about blackcough; the black may be blood.
- In Fire and Ice, two of Brindleface's kits die[39] and Bluestar loses a life[40] to greencough.
- In A Dangerous Path, Crookedstar loses his last life to greencough.[41]
- In Sunset, Heavystep supposedly dies from greencough.[42]
- Between Sunset and The Sight, Molepaw[43] and Boulder[44] die from greencough.
- In The Sight, Brackenfur and Birchfall are treated for whitecough[45] and later there is a greencough outbreak in all four Clans.[46]
- One of the largest epidemics known in the book series is in Long Shadows, where lots of ThunderClan cats, including Firestar himself, fell ill with greencough. It starts with Millie and Briarkit before quickly spiraling out of control, giving signs as to just how fast the sickness can spread. The sick cats are isolated at the Abandoned Twoleg Nest to avoid getting the healthy cats catch the disease.[47] No single-lifed cat dies, although Firestar loses a life.[48]
- In Code of the Clans, it mentions Snowstar,[49] Brightwhisker[50] and Poppydawn[51] dying from greencough.
- In Secrets of the Clans, it mentions Lizardstripe dying from greencough.[52]
- Bluestar's Prophecy and Secrets of the Clans both reveal Featherwhisker dying from greencough.[53]
- In Crookedstar's Promise, Willowbreeze, Willowkit, and Minnowkit all die from greencough.[54]
- In Bluestar's Prophecy, Rosepaw, Sweetpaw, and Bluefur all share a bad mouse and get sick.[55] Sweetpaw dies from this,[56] but Bluefur and Rosepaw survive.[57] Earlier, when Bluekit and Snowkit are in Goosefeather's den, he mentions that Smallear was bitten by an adder, but he would survive.
- In Forest of Secrets, Cloudkit attempts to eat deathberries and receives a stern lecture from Cinderpaw.[58] Yellowfang kills her son Brokentail by feeding him deathberries.[59]
- In Rising Storm, Halftail, Patchpelt, and Yellowfang die after inhaling too much smoke from the fire.[60]
- In The Darkest Hour, Darkstripe feeds Sorrelkit deathberries,[61] and she almost dies,[62] but later recovers.[61]
- In Moonrise, several WindClan cats[63] and Dappletail of ThunderClan[64] die after eating rabbits poisoned by Twolegs.
- In Starlight, Mothwing accidentally brings back tainted water to the elders, and they all get a bellyache.[65]
- In Twilight, Dawnflower's kits[66] and some RiverClan cats[67] ingest a foul-smelling liquid that later causes Tumblekit's and Ivytail's deaths.[68]
- In Sunrise, Honeyfern dies after a snake bites her.[69]
- In Cats of the Clans, it is mentioned that Adderkit died after an adder had bitten him.[70]
- In The Forgotten Warrior, Mousewhisker and Cherrypaw almost die from consuming water hemlock, thinking it was parsley.[71]
- In Thunder Rising, Gray Wing develops asthma after inhaling smoke from the forest fire, he manages to survive longer than expected, but succumbs to his asthma in Path of Stars.
Rat-Borne Infections
- In Rising Storm, Nightstar, Cinderfur and other ShadowClan cats die from eating rats from the Carrionplace.[72]
- In Midnight, Tawnypelt gets an infected wound after a fight with rats.[73]
- Secrets of the Clans mentions Pebbleheart dying from a rat-borne infection.[74]
- In Into the Wild, Bluestar loses a life by being bitten in a rat attack.[75]
- In Bluestar's Prophecy and Crookedstar's Promise, Hailstar dies from being bitten by a rat.[76]
- In Firestar's Quest, Firestar loses a life and Rainfur dies during a fight with rats.[77]
- In Yellowfang's Secret, Raggedstar's previous deputy, Foxheart was killed by rats in a battle against the rats at the Carrionplace.[78]
Loss of Sensory Perception
- In Bluestar's Prophecy, Whitepaw is blinded in one eye after a fight with a badger.[79]
- In Into the Wild, One-eye is described as being virtually blind and deaf due to old age.[80]
- In Fire and Ice, Brokenstar is blinded by Yellowfang as punishment for his deeds.[81]
- In A Dangerous Path, Snowkit is revealed to be deaf.[18] Although his mother tries to train him to be a warrior, he is taken away by a hawk.[17] Dappletail tells about her own first litter; one of her kits was born deaf, and later it disappeared, thought to be taken by a fox.[82]
- In Firestar's Quest, Longtail is blinded after a rabbit scratches his eyes.[83]
- In Leafpool's Wish, Jaykit is revealed to be blind.[84]
- In Dark River, Rock is mentioned to be blind because of old age.[85]
Joint Aches
- In Forest of Secrets, Smallear's joints are stiff, and Yellowfang says they are the worst case she has seen in moons.[86]
- In Midnight, Speckletail complains of aching joints due to damp weather.[87]
- In The Sight, Mousefur complains of aching joints due to a cold draft.[source?]
- In The Forgotten Warrior, Sorreltail has stiffness in her hip joints.[88]
Cracked Pads
- In Forest of Secrets, One-eye has cracked pads from the cold.[89]
- In Firestar's Quest, Firestar and Sandstorm get sore pads after walking on rocks.[90]
- In Sunset, Goldenflower complains of cracked pads.[91]
- In Sunrise, Purdy gets cracked pads from cold weather.[92]
- In The Darkest Hour, Tigerstar loses all of his nine lives due to a single wound.[93]
- In Eclipse, Squirrelflight gets a belly wound during the great battle.[36]
- It is mentioned that Halftail's tail was bitten off by a badger some time before Into the Wild.
- Berrykit's tail was damaged and later bitten off by Leafpool from a fox trap.
Joint Dislocation
- In Moonrise, Mousefur gets a dislocated shoulder after fighting Twolegs.[94]
- In Twilight, Rainwhisker's shoulder is dislocated in the fight with the badgers.[95][96]
- In SkyClan's Destiny, Sagepaw has a dislocated leg after falling off the highest cliff.[97]
- In The Sun Trail, Hawk Swoop has a dislocated shoulder after fleeing from some sheep.
Broken Bones
- In Fire and Ice, Cinderpaw (Cinderpelt) breaks a leg after being hit by a monster.[98]
- In Dark River, Cinderpaw (Cinderheart) breaks the same leg after falling from the Sky Oak,[99] but later recovers.[100]
- In Fading Echoes, Briarlight's backbone is broken after being crushed by a falling tree,[101] but she survives.[102]
- In Fading Echoes, Littlecloud mentions a ShadowClan cat, Wildfur, who also broke his backbone; however, he did not survive, as he got a chest infection.[37]
- In Battles of the Clans and Cloudstar's Journey, Mousefang breaks her leg while fighting Amberclaw from jumping out of a tree.[103]
- In Crookedstar's Promise, Crookedkit broke his jaw falling off a rock.[104]
- In The Sun Trail, Jagged Peak breaks a leg after falling out of a tree.[105]
- In Moth Flight's Vision, Wind Runner breaks her leg in battle.
- Whitecough and greencough are like a cough and pneumonia, respectively.[106]
- Greencough's original name was blackcough. The name was changed before publishing "Into the Wild", as it was thought that the new name reflected the disease better. Vicky stated that the mention of blackcough by Mothwing was an oversight on their part.[107]
See Also
References and Citations
- ↑ Revealed in Secrets of the Clans, page 130
- ↑ 2.0 2.1 Revealed in Secrets of the Clans, pages 166-168
- ↑ 3.0 3.1 3.2 Revealed in Secrets of the Clans, pages 134-136
- ↑ Revealed in Secrets of the Clans, page 24
- ↑ 5.0 5.1 Revealed in Into the Wild, page 144
- ↑ Revealed in Moonrise, page 163
- ↑ Revealed in Moth Flight's Vision, page Chapter 17
- ↑ Such as Minnowkit and her siblings in Twilight, Revealed on page 172
- ↑ Revealed in Moonrise, page 250
- ↑ Revealed in Rising Storm, page 250
- ↑ Revealed in Sunrise, page 214
- ↑ Revealed in The Darkest Hour, page 88
- ↑ Revealed in Secrets of the Clans, page 68
- ↑ Revealed in Secrets of the Clans, page 134
- ↑ Revealed in Yellowfang's Secret, page 260
- ↑ Revealed in Into the Wild, page 97
- ↑ 17.0 17.1 Revealed in A Dangerous Path, page 95
- ↑ 18.0 18.1 Revealed in A Dangerous Path, page 81
- ↑ Revealed in Forest of Secrets, page 84
- ↑ 20.0 20.1 Revealed in Secrets of the Clans, page 135
- ↑ Revealed in Twilight, page 201
- ↑ Revealed in Bluestar's Prophecy, page 483
- ↑ Revealed in Dawn, page 126
- ↑ revealed in Erin Hunter chat
- ↑ Revealed in Code of the Clans, pages 68-69
- ↑ Revealed in Crookedstar's Promise, page 404
- ↑ Revealed in Bluestar's Prophecy, page 515
- ↑ Revealed on Vicky's facebook page
- ↑ Revealed in Cloudstar's Journey, chapter 4
- ↑ Revealed in Cloudstar's Journey, chapter 7
- ↑ Revealed in Ravenpaw's Farewell, page Chapter 10
- ↑ Revealed in Eclipse, page 230
- ↑ Revealed in Moonrise, page 279
- ↑ Revealed in Dark River, page 131
- ↑ Revealed in Fire and Ice
- ↑ 36.0 36.1 Revealed in Eclipse
- ↑ 37.0 37.1 37.2 37.3 Revealed in Fading Echoes, page 168
- ↑ Revealed in Fading Echoes, pages 173-174
- ↑ Revealed in Fire and Ice, page 227
- ↑ Revealed in Fire and Ice, page 187
- ↑ Revealed in Rising Storm, page 110
- ↑ Revealed in Sunset, page 150
- ↑ Revealed in The Sight, page 7
- ↑ Littlecloud reports that an elder has died of greencough - The Sight, page 323 - and this is assumed to be Boulder as he does not appear in The Sight and all record of him is lost
- ↑ Revealed in The Sight, page 11
- ↑ Revealed in The Sight, page 323
- ↑ Revealed in Long Shadows, page 166
- ↑ Revealed in Long Shadows, page 239
- ↑ Revealed in Code of the Clans, page 86
- ↑ Revealed in Code of the Clans, page 87
- ↑ Revealed in Code of the Clans, page 42
- ↑ Revealed in Secrets of the Clans, page 71
- ↑ Revealed in Secrets of the Clans, page ThunderClan Medicine Cats
- ↑ Revealed in Crookedstar's Promise, page 445 and 447
- ↑ Revealed in Bluestar's Prophecy, page 262
- ↑ Revealed in Bluestar's Prophecy, page 292
- ↑ Bluefur goes on to become Bluestar, page 497, and Rosepaw receives her warrior name, Rosetail, page 315
- ↑ Revealed in Forest of Secrets, page 85
- ↑ Revealed in Forest of Secrets, page 294
- ↑ Revealed in Rising Storm, page 280 and 283
- ↑ 61.0 61.1 Revealed in The Darkest Hour, page 113
- ↑ Revealed in The Darkest Hour, page 95
- ↑ Revealed in Moonrise, page 166
- ↑ Revealed in Moonrise, page 211
- ↑ Revealed in Starlight, page 171, 196, 249
- ↑ Revealed in Twilight, page 172
- ↑ Revealed in Twilight, pages 163, 197, 168, 173, and 219
- ↑ Revealed in Twilight, page 219
- ↑ Revealed in Sunrise, pages 212-215 and 220
- ↑ Revealed in Cats of the Clans, page 46
- ↑ Revealed in Cats of the Clans, page 2
- ↑ Revealed in Starlight, page 313
- ↑ Revealed in Midnight, page 249, 268
- ↑ Revealed in Secrets of the Clans, page 66
- ↑ Revealed in Into the Wild, page 188
- ↑ Revealed in Crookedstar's Promise, page 431
- ↑ Revealed in Firestar's Quest, page 463
- ↑ Revealed in Yellowfang's Secret, page 272
- ↑ Revealed in Bluestar's Prophecy, allegiances
- ↑ Revealed in Into the Wild, allegiances
- ↑ Revealed in Fire and Ice, page 268
- ↑ Revealed in A Dangerous Path, page 82
- ↑ Revealed in Firestar's Quest, page 30
- ↑ Revealed in The Sight, pages 35-36
- ↑ Revealed in Dark River, page 3
- ↑ Revealed in Forest of Secrets, page 160
- ↑ Revealed in Midnight, page 209
- ↑ Revealed in The Forgotten Warrior, page 59
- ↑ Revealed in Forest of Secrets, page 45
- ↑ Revealed in Firestar's Quest, page 241
- ↑ Revealed in The Darkest Hour, page 247
- ↑ Revealed in Sunrise, page 234
- ↑ Revealed in The Darkest Hour, page 234
- ↑ Revealed in Moonrise, page 277
- ↑ Revealed in Twilight, page 288
- ↑ Revealed in Sunset, page 22
- ↑ Revealed in SkyClan's Destiny, pages 70-77
- ↑ Revealed in Fire and Ice, page 183
- ↑ Revealed in Dark River, page 103
- ↑ In Eclipse she receives her warrior name, Cinderheart, after training hard to recover from her injury, pages 317-318
- ↑ Revealed in Fading Echoes, page 174
- ↑ At the end of Fading Echoes she is still living and has received her warrior name, Briarlight, page 176
- ↑ Revealed in Cloudstar's Journey, chapter 8
- ↑ Revealed in Crookedstar's Promise, page 36
- ↑ Revealed in The Sun Trail
- ↑ Revealed in Erin Hunter Chat 3
- ↑ Revealed on Vicky's Facebook page.


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Skip to comments.Why Russia is standing by Syria's Assad
Posted on 06/18/2012 8:24:20 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
As the United Nations warns that Syria has descended into civil war, Russia continues to back President Bashar al-Assad in the face of growing international condemnation.
Konstantin von Eggert, political commentator for Kommersant FM radio in Moscow, looks at why the Kremlin is steadfastly supporting the beleaguered Syrian government.
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But this alone does not account for Russia's seeming indifference to the adverse effect that its international advocacy of the Assad government has on its relations with the United States, the European Union and the majority of the Arab states.
The explanation has a lot to do with Russia's domestic policies and the obsessions of the Russian political class.
By standing up for Damascus, the Kremlin is telling the world that neither the UN, nor any other body or group of countries has the right to decide who should or should not govern a sovereign state.
If one looks at the Syrian crisis from this angle, many of Moscow's previously inexplicable actions take on a new, clearer meaning.
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Putin will be known in the history books as the "Savior of Russia". The country was at brink of falling apart and Chechnya already declared independence. Now Russia is becoming wealthier due to their natural resources, their death rate has been reduced and even their birth rate is slowly increasing.
Whose history books?
So, we need many chefs stirring the pot. While one is supporting the rebels, one must support Assad, and somebody else can make the popcorn:-E)
Not a matter of semantics, but a fact. Was Iran an enemy (or perceived to be one) during the 50 yrs of the Pahlavi reign?
Since 1979, Islamic Republic of Iran is an enemy because the regime RULING Iran holds an Anti-American, Anti-Western stance, and has conducted many Terrorist activities inside & outside the country.
True, Iranian People are not all one thing. It is unrealistic to expect 100% of the population of any country to be against the regime or ruling gov't.
But, then, nor are the American People are all one thing, are they?
I'd venture to say that there are many American People (natural born citizens too), who dislike the US - for whatever reasons - take a pro-moslem (Islam), pro-communist/socialist views, and generally are against what they call "American Imperialism".
Am afraid, the mentioned Americans weren't educated or trained in Russia or China either, but they were in US universities..
Now, what can be done about that?
Would you suggest that conservative/republican Americans literally kill off all liberals/democrats ? Or, do you think that, realistically & practically, anti-Islam Americans could go ahead demolish mosques & burn the Koran in the US, and annhiliate Islam in the USA, including any Muftis & Mullahs (whether those with radical or moderate views) ? - note that Islam has exponentially increased its presence in the US itself over the last 3 decades.
What I am saying is that your suggestion about what Anti-Mullah Iranian people in Iran should do, at present, is even less realistic than the possibilities & options open to Anti-Socialist & Anti-Islam Americans in the US.
HOWEVER, should there be a real opportunity, I can comfortably say that the chances of many many more Iranian People turning their backs on Islam & Islamic gov'ts (e.g. & incl. current Mullahs' Regime) in Iran is far greater than any where in the ME, and perhaps even in the US.
I agree with Cronos that:
1) many Iranian People I know, and based on many blogs in Persian & English I read, written by Iranians, as well as what I hear indirectly through others currently in Iran, Iranian people, largely, are either indifferent towards the American People or actually admire the spirit and freedoms they lack in Iran.
However, I also know more than a few Iranian People, who are very critical of the US & certain Western Gov'ts. Why? Well, do you think the "Islamic Republic of Iran" (and yes, it is Islamic Republic of Iran, not Iran), which means the Mullahs' Regime, could have lasted as long as it has, had it not been for the leniency, complacency & I'd go further and say even support of the successive US & Western govt's for it ??
2) the same grps of Iranian People mentioned in point 1, do not see Israel as an enemy. In fact most don't care about Israel or the Palestinians. Some even dislike the Palestinians, because of their experience with the ones who have been raping, arresting and torturing their sons, daughters and/or relatives. Israel & Israelis have done nothing to Iranian People. That fact is recognized very clearly by many Iranian People in Iran. Just as it is recognized that the Islamic Republic Regime is & has using Israel & the US as a political tool, and for its own political purposes.
This is a conflict instigated by and exists between Governments in both countries. American & Iranian people are pawns & meats in the sandwich. As always, on both sides, some hold pro views, others hold anti views..
In the same way we are "propping" up the communist China regime? Or building relationships with the Vietnamese?
it's politically expedient.
The Russians desperately want to say "We're big boys, respect us. RESPECT US." -- it's whining. Their navy is a joke and hardly a threat to any European country bar the Baltics, leave alone the US.
They've stood behind and aided open enemies of the US, such as Saddam Hussein/Iraq, Hugo Chavez/Venezuela, Kim Jung-Il/North Korea, the Castro bros/Cuba, Ahmadinejad/Iran, -- Saddam Hussein was business -- they got money selling him weapons when we didn't allow that, Cuba, Venezuala -- this is posturing, and again, money.
they don't support the North Koreans -- our "Most Favored Trading Nation" China does that
Iran is little more than posturing -- he doesn't want a powerful Iran to his south.
Iraq,Chavez,Cuba -- think arm sales to keep their flagging industry alive.
ha -- Chavez and his tin-pot army could be crushed by the US military in days. Forget that, Colombia would do the work for us.
North Korea is protected by China
Iran is more a threat to Russia than to the US or W. Europe
Putin did a good job between 1999 and 2002/2003. If he had left then, his reputation as "Savior" would have been permanent
But since 2004 he has been detrimental to Russia's growth, arresting businessmen, focussing on Central Europe rather than the threats he faces to the south and east
Agreed. What should be done is to
The security of Israel is tied in to Assad winning, but NOT winning enough, so that he always has to focus on rebels at home and not have any time to focus on the near or far abroad.
Exactly. We need a broken Syrian/Hizbollah/Iran triangle, one that is at war with itself and no side capable of winning decisively. Welcome to Middle Eastern geopolitics.
RE posts 109 & 110, I know it has not been a PC term to use, for a while, given the previous "era", pre-Obi, but Key Solution to get things rolling, in the right direction, in the ME is:
"REGIME CHANGE IN IRAN", to be replaced by a Secular Regime.
Anything else will only complicate matters further, as it has done already.
We will Not see a good future for Israel, US, EU, Russia or any other country in the ME, N. Africa, and generally the Moslem world, which if we continue to move in the same present direction, the Islamic Empire will expand, gradually but most certainly.
It all started with Iran in 1979, with Khomeini, Jimmy Carter, and it can start to stop there too. Somehow, I don't think those who need to have that vision want it to stop it, so they will continue... but at a very heavy cost ... for all those concerned...
P.S. - A quick note on current Russia, previously USSR:
IMO, the reason Russia has been reverting to a dictatorship is because when USSR was dismantled, it was brought down by economic means, not cultural one or assisting with that cultural rebuilding...
Structurally & economically, you can bring down a Regime after more than 70 yrs (in Russia/USSR case), but then you can't withdraw, declare success & then leave it to the Almighty, so to speak... it requires work much work thereafter to ensure the Structural, governmental change is SUSTAINABLE, in the desired direction, in the future...
That's where I believe the American Gov't Foreign Policy fails, every time, to deliver long term solutions... deliberately or otherwise (some call it "the New World Order")... Anyhow, restructuring a country is not a matter of SHORT-TERM Financial reporting of Q1, Q2,Q3, etc...
Cradle of Freedom: Fyi, ping to article, post 104, etc.. - thought you might be interested.
Syria, Iraq and Bahrain will be battlegrounds as will be to a lesser extent Yemen (Ismailis)
I've caught you in, what, 5 or 6 lies/untruths now? If this were my site, your butt would be long gone.
The two sides [Democratic People's Republic of Korea and Russia] agreed to "promote and enhance friendly relations" in line with the joint declaration of July 19, 2000 and the Russia-DPRK friendship and good neighborly cooperation treaty of February 9, 2000.
Putin and Kim agreed during their talks to promote a Russian- DPRK political dialogue on the Korean issue and international affairs, and discussed many topical international problems, deputy head of the Russian presidential administration Sergei Prikhodko told reporters following the talks.
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"In August 1945, the Soviet Army established a Soviet Civil Authority to rule the northern portion of the Korean Peninsula until a domestic regime, friendly to the USSR, could be established. This became governed by the Provisional People's Committee for North Korea through 1948. After the Soviet forces' departure in 1948, the main agenda in the following years was unification of Korea until the consolidation of the Syngman Rhee regime in the South with American military support and the suppression of the October 1948 insurrection ended hopes that the country could be reunified by way of Communist revolution in the South. In 1949, a military intervention into South Korea was considered by Kim Il-sung, but failed to receive support from the Soviet Union, which had played a key role in the establishment of the country.[30]
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Yes, and Mussolini made the trains run on time.
Are you nuts? They probably installed Ahmadinejad to be their puppet.
From the Russian News and Information Agency:
July 27, 2006
"'I am determined to expand relations with Russia,' Chavez, known as an outspoken critic of what he calls the United States' unilateralism, told the Russian leader, adding that his determination stemmed from their shared vision of the global order.":
From CBS-News, July 29, 2006:
Chavez Vows To 'Stand By Iran'
After Oil Talks In Tehran, Venezuelan Leader Called 'Brother' By Ahmedinejad
"Chavez pledged that his country would 'stay by Iran at any time and under any condition,' state television reported. Ahmadinejad said he saw in Chavez a kindred spirit." "'We do not have any limitation in cooperation,' Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying. 'Iran and Venezuela are next to each other and supporters of each other. Chavez is a source of a progressive and revolutionary current in South America and his stance in restricting imperialism is tangible.'":
"ha", your azz! Chavez would have the full support of Russia, Iran, and other tyrannical anti-American, enemy regimes. And do you really think an America, under "Comrade Obama", would ever attempt to "crush" Chavez's Marxist regime??
There you go, sounding like Obama again...
May 18, 2008: Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don't pose a serious threat to us. ...they spend 1/100th of what we spend on the military. I mean, if Iran ever tried to pose a serious threat to us, they wouldn't stand a chance.
May 20, 2008 (2 days later!): Iran is a grave threat. It has an illicit nuclear program. It supports terrorism across the regions and militias in Iraq. It threatens Israel's existence. It denies the Holocaust.
Source for these genuine Obama quotes: NewsBusters.org:
I don't dispute that Russia has a tyrannical regime. It's not the enemy though. the Iranian regime is, yes
Now you're saying Chavez "would have" and earlier you said that he already had. Be clear
Finally, even if Russia, Iran and China objected, poo-di-dooh, they could do nothing to stop a US force from crushing Chavez
Wow, talk of delusional. No, Ahmanutjob is not a Russian puppet -- the Ruskies are not that powerful in Iran
Venezuela's Chavez welcomes Russian warships
Nov 25, 2008
LA GUAIRA, Venezuela Russian warships arrived off Venezuela's coast Tuesday in a show of strength aimed at the United States as Moscow seeks to expand its influence in Latin America. The deployment is the first of its kind in the Caribbean since the Cold War and was timed to coincide with President Dmitry Medvedev's visit to Caracas the first ever by a Russian president.
More Yahoo search results for Russia and Venezuela connections:
From National Public Radio (NPR):
August 29, 2006
"Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has been visiting countries such as China, Iran and Russia as part of an effort to build a 'strategic alliance' of interests not beholden to the United States. He considers the United States his arch enemy.":
The media has been abuzz today at the prospect of Russian nuclear bombers being stationed in Cuba if the US goes ahead with plans for missile defense bases in Eastern Europe.
The story has riled the US enough that a US general has been wheeled out to tell the worlds press that any Russian attempt to build another nuclear base in Cuba would cross US red line.
The story broke earlier this week, when Russian newspaper Izvestia quoted an un-named source from within the Russian military. He told the Russian daily:
While they are deploying the missile shield in Poland and the Czech Republic, our strategic bombers will already be landing in Cuba.
The quote hasnt been independently confirmed, but the Russian Defense Ministry added fuel to the fire when they refused to comment on the story.
The prospect of Russian nuclear forces being stationed in Cuba - which is, after all, only 90 miles from the US coast - would bring back some rather unpleasant memories for the US of the Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962, where the Soviet Union under Nikita Kruschev launched an audacious and foolhardy bid to station nuclear missiles on the Caribbean island.
Russia to help Cuba modernize weaponry, train military
September 18, 2009
HAVANA, September 18 (RIA Novosti) - Modernization of the Soviet-made military equipment and training of Cuban military personnel will be the focus of Russian-Cuban military cooperation in the near future, the chief of the Russian General Staff said on Friday. Gen. Nikolai Makarov arrived on a working visit to Cuba on Monday, met with Cuban President Raul Castro and the country's military leadership, and visited a number of military installations.
"During the Soviet era we delivered a large number of military equipment to Cuba, and after all these years most of this weaponry has become obsolete and needs repairs," Makarov said.
"We inspected the condition of this equipment, and outlined the measures to be taken to maintain the defense capability of this country...I think a lot of work needs to be done in this respect, and I hope we will be able to accomplish this task," the general said.
Makarov said the Cuban request for assistance with training of military personnel will also be fully satisfied.
Although the Cuban leadership has repeatedly said it has no intention of resuming military cooperation with Russia after the surprise closure of the Russian electronic listening post in Lourdes in 2001, bilateral military ties seem to have been improving following the visit of Russian Security Council chief Nikolai Patrushev and Russian Deputy Prime Minister Igor Sechin to Cuba in July last year.
A group of Russian warships, led by the Admiral Chabanenko destroyer visited Cuba in December last year during a Caribbean tour.
You see that's partly why I have *almost* given up posting on FR threads, particularly, regarding AN (aka Ahmadi-Nejad).
For the Record:
"AN" in Persian language means "turd", as many Iranians in Iran, and outside call Ahmadi-Nejad.
"AN", also stands for an abbreviation or acronym of Ahmadi-Nejad. His lastname has 2 words/syllable: Nejad, means clan or belonging to (race) of Ahmadi. Ahmadi short for Mohamed or race of Mohamed's clan, the Arabian Prophet.
What most Americans don't realize is that, post Jimmy Carter's support of bringing Khomeini onboard in Iran & helping to establish the Islamic Republic Republic of Iran in Iran, Ahamdi-Nejad was NOT the one who advocated the occupation of the US Embassy, taking US hostages... that is a fallacy.
AHMADI-NEJAD, IN FACT, wanted to kick out the Soviets & their influence in politics & otherwise out of Iran. He preferred the Americans, since he thought the Americans had much more, religiously (messianic), in common with his own beliefs - compared to the USSR, at the time.
He was & still is a strong believer in the Mahdi, the 12th imam.. he is, Personally, a true believer in that Mahdi Myth.. - Communism/Socialism of the Soviets did not work well with his religious zeal, WHICH he still possesses.
IOW, Ahamdi-Nejad (AN, the "turd") was Anti-Communist/Socialist - he wanted his Mahdi imam to act as a counter to Soviet (Communist) influence in Iran. It is a wonder some, know-it-all, theoretical, others in the West still don't know or get it..
Then the translator for the following must have completely screwed up what he [Ahmadinejad] was saying about Hugo Chavez and his "Progressive", "anti-Imperialist", "revolutionary current" in South America. /s (only the far left uses such terminology)
From CBS-News, July 29, 2006:
Chavez Vows To 'Stand By Iran'
After Oil Talks In Tehran, Venezuelan Leader Called 'Brother' By Ahmedinejad
"Chavez pledged that his country would 'stay by Iran at any time and under any condition,' state television reported. Ahmadinejad said he saw in Chavez a kindred spirit." "'We do not have any limitation in cooperation,' Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying. 'Iran and Venezuela are next to each other and supporters of each other. Chavez is a source of a progressive and revolutionary current in South America and his stance in restricting imperialism is tangible.'":
"would" in the sense that SHOULD your fantasy US attack on Chavez [a fantasy under Comrade Obama] ever take place, he [Chavez] WOULD have the support of the Russians. Then again, the Russians may view Obama as the more significant ally of the two. In any event, ain't gonna happen.
Yes, the "translator" must have done, PRECISELY, what he/she/it must do, politically, just as Ahamdi-Nejad has done, politically.
Politics is a separate matter to Personal belief.
Good to be discerning. Many FR posts/threads, have indicated, OBVIOUSLY that Ahmadi-Nejad has a strong messianic (religious) belief. Where do we find that "actual" equivalent of Mahdi in Hugo Chavez, or any Socialist or Communist ideology?
If you do find that equivalent, messianic belief, in Socialism or Communism of, for example, Hugo Chavez, per AN's belief, then I suspect, a conservative/republican, is no different, ultimately, to the liberal/democrats in the US - only difference can be indicated in the political stance, words and jibes.
Don't necessarily support Putin, but:
1. Russia is remaining faithful to her allies (such as they are) and hostile to her foes.
2. Russia doesn't seem to have any problems naming the enemy and killing them in large, cost-effective quantities.
Both are admirable traits, even a rival. I would like to see us show the same gumption.
But the possibility is there, huh? Absolutely incredible how blind people can be even when the evidence is staring them in the face (giving you the benefit of the doubt here).
"rivals" are friggin Coke and Pepsi! Russia and the US (at least pre-Obama] don't have the same objectives.
Neither do Coke and Pepsi. Each wants the other's market share.
National rivals are nations that have conflicting goals. The US and Sov, er, Russians have conflicting goals. We're rivals. We're not enemies just now, because we're not in a shooting war, neither side is trying destroy the other, and neither side planning on starting a shooting a war with the other. I guess I have a fairly high threshold for "enemy."
In any case, supporting Assad is (IMHO) in America's best interests. Its a pity that only the Russians have the balls to openly support him.
Who knows, he could be a communist in religious-poser clothing like Obama and Louis Farrakhan. Obama being a "Black Liberation Theology" communist, Farrakhan actually a worshiper of Fidel Castro and Mao Tse-Tung.
The so-called "Nation of Islam" is a "Black Liberation" communist front movement like Wright's phony church. Farrakhan doesn't sincerely believe in "Allah". His role models are people (monsters) like Castro and Mao.
Louis Farrakhan, Santiago de Cuba, February, 1998:
"There is not a member of the black masses in the United States who is not proud of the example set by Cuba and its revolution, with Comandante Fidel at its head"
Source: http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/farakhan21898.html#says
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"The time has never been more ripe for a strategic relationship between the Black, Brown, Native American and the poor of this nation and the world."
"We need a Ministry of Defense. Our young men are born soldiers, but they are in the wrong war. They are fighting a war in the streets of America against each other, or they are fighting an unjust war overseas in Afghanistan and Iraq. We need to bring our boys home and put them into the Ministry of Defense, so we can defend our communities, rather than destroy our communities.
We need a Ministry of Art and Culture. We applaud the hip hop community, the leaders of young people all over the world, but I want the young generation of artists to know there is a bigger purpose for art and culture than popping our fingers and shaking our backsides.
Mao Tse Tung, throughout his long march to conquer China, had a billion people whose lives he had to transform. Many of them were victims of opium, drugs and prostitution, like we are. But Mao Tse Tung went to the cultural community and they accepted his idea. Then, through song, dance, poetry, drama, documentaries, movies and books, the idea of Mao Tse Tung became the idea of a billion people. China became a world power on the base of culture and the artistic community. If we had a Ministry of Art and Culture in every city, [we'd] create this movement [in the U.S.], we could say to our young people, What is the idea of the Time and are you reflecting that idea in your songs, dance and music?
We need a Ministry of Trade and Commerce. Do you think that a Millions More Movement should not be involved in the development of Africa, the Caribbean and Central America? ... we need a Ministry of Trade and Commerce that can link the struggle here with Africa and the Caribbean, Central and South America.
Source: FinalCall.com
This is Farrakhan's own "Nation Of Islam" website
"If you look at Barack Obama's audiences and look at the effect of his words, those people are being transformed."
Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23333598/
"Mao Tse Tung, throughout his long march to conquer China, had a billion people whose lives he had to transform."
Source: FinalCall.com
(this is Farrakhan's own "Nation Of Islam" website)
AN is a thug, and a religious nut, that I know for sure.
But, I also know he couldn't have survived as long as he has in the political arena, (I mean almost 33 yrs) - in Mullahs' Regime politics - without being Politically Savvy and "in-the-know". That's how Politics, regardless of Personal belief, works.. around the world.
So, despite the fact that even most liberals despise Ahmadinejad, the (likely) liberal translator (or reporter), would have twisted his words to make him out to be a Progressive. Is that what you are saying?
Alternatively, the translator, being pro-Iran, pro-Ahmadinejad, quite possibly part of his crew, would have twisted his words to make him out to be a supporter of "Progressive" causes and a "brother" to communist Hugo Chavez? That guy/gal must have a real death wish, eh?
Think Columbia University USA, as example, then think about your USA liberals.. unless conservatives prove to be different in action regarding AN, no difference between Libs & Cons.
When you can make a distinct differentiation between hugo chavez, (Castro was always a goner), Obama, GWB, Clinton and AN, let me know, including the 'translators', guy or gal, as the case it might've been on occasions - I want DETAILS for each.. eh.. ;-)
Because pricks hang together?
Yes I have a problem with animals who slaughter innocent children and and I have a big problem with those immoral, cold-hearted and un-Christian enough to justify such acts. The fact that you would dare to do so explains why you also support Putin's murder of innocent Orthodox Christians in Georgia. You really don't seem to care whether the innocent children your heroes murder are muslim or Christian. You will justify their slaughter either way.
Just a theory.
I'm not happy about what just happened in Egypt. But our pResident is. The man has done nothing positive for this country. And it cannot be incompetence. Even a clock can be right twice a day.
I don't support Putin in that -- stop lying
true. Pootie cares for his own dictatorship of Russia and radical Islam is an enemy.
On this matter, I support him.
well said. On one matter -- the containing of islam, we should make common cause
on another matter -- the containing of China -- Putin is a fool if the doesn't see that it makes more sense for China to grab Siberia than to grab anything else (besides Taiwan which is for ego's sake)
I don't support us openly supporting Assad -- it will open us to too much criticism.
it's better to sit by and NOT help the jihadis. Assad can crush them, but not completely as the Sauds are supporting them
the best outcome for America -- as I said is Assad winning, but NOT winning enough, so that he always has to focus on rebels at home and not have any time to focus on the near or far abroad -- just like we should have done with Qaddafi.
It's so annoying that the Arab league are asking for the West to intervene militarily when you KNOW that the moment there is one stray bullet, they will scream "infidels attacking Moslems. We never asked for this"....
I'm pretty sure that Putin knows for certain that he can't stop the PRC, short of nuking hell out them, if they decide to lurch that way. He's probably has people working on a deal. I would.
As for Islam, I'm not sure what we can do. As long as it has the rights of privileges of a religion, we can't contain it. Personally, I'd like to see Moslems regard the same we regarded Soviets during the Cold War, but most folks think I'm kinda unreasonable...
If "PRC" = Peoples Republic of China, you either have no idea what you're talking about or you're deliberately trying to misinform people like cronos and a few others. Russia and China are two birds of a 'new world order' feather. They've been conducting joint war games in preparation for war...against US! (as if you didn't know this already)
The death of former Russian spy, Alexander Litvinenko, last week from radioactive Polonium-210 poisoning is the latest in a series of politically motivated attacks on the outspoken opponents of Russian President Vladimir Putin.
"Appearing alongside high-profile opponents of President Putin, he [Alexander Litvinenko] has continued to make allegations about his former bosses. Perhaps most notably, he alleged that al-Qaeda number two Ayman al-Zawahiri was trained by the FSB in Dagestan in the years before 9/11".
Blowing up Russia: The Secret Plot to Bring Back KGB Terror
by Alexander Litvinenko, Yuri Felshtinsky, Geoffrey Andrews and Co (Translator)
Synopsis: Blowing Up Russia contains the allegations of ex-spy Alexander Litvinenko against his former spymasters in Moscow which led to his being murdered in London in November 2006. In the book he and historian Yuri Felshtinsky detail how since 1999 the Russian secret service has been hatching a plot to return to the terror that was the hallmark of the KGB. Vividly written and based on Litvinenko's 20 years of insider knowledge of Russian spy campaigns, Blowing Up Russia describes how the successor of the KGB fabricated terrorist attacks and launched a war. Writing about Litvinenko, the surviving co-author recounts how the banning of the book in Russia led to three earlier deaths.
Last Living Beslan School Attacker Sentenced to Life in Prison
May 28, 2006
VLADIKAVKAZ, Russia AP
A southern Russian court on Friday sentenced the sole surviving Beslan school attacker to life in prison, capping a yearlong trial that survivors and victims' relatives say has left the most essential questions about the tragedy unanswered.
They demand to know just who bore the most responsibility: Nur-Pashi Kulayev and his 31 fellow militants, or the officials whose negligence or even alleged complicity allowed them to seize hundreds of children and parents on the first day of school in September 2004.
Countrywatch: Russia
"I did not go to court to become convinced of Kulayev's guilt, but to reconstruct all the circumstances of the terrorist attack and find the truth," said Aneta Gadiyeva, whose daughter was killed. "But I did not learn anything new and did not get any answers." ..."
"In three coordinated bombings of apartment buildings in Moscow and Volgodonsk in September 1999, 292 people were murdered, including our mother Lyubov Morozova. We are writing this open letter to call on you, Dmitry Anatolyevich, to order an independent, open and full investigation of these attacks."
Russian Terror Victims Ask for Truth
In 1999, a series of apartment bombings shook Russia and propelled the country headlong into the Second Chechen War. Nearly nine years after the attacks, which claimed 292 lives, many Russians remain unconvinced by the official version of events, which holds that Chechen separatists were responsible.
Two sisters, who lost their mother in the attack, have written an open letter to President Dmitri Medvedev, urging him to mount a fully open, independent investigation. The sisters, Tatyana and Alyona Morozov, currently reside in Missouri. Their appeal (below) was published in the Wall Street Journal newspaper on May 30th.
Dear President Medvedev
In three coordinated bombings of apartment buildings in Moscow and Volgodonsk in September 1999, 292 people were murdered, including our mother Lyubov Morozova. We are writing this open letter to call on you, Dmitry Anatolyevich, to order an independent, open and full investigation of these attacks.
Although these crimes were blamed on Chechen terrorists and used to justify the resumption of a full-scale war against Chechnya later that month, there are numerous indications that Russian security services may have been involved. There is also clear evidence of a cover-up by the authorities. We do not consider this case solved.
Let us remind you of some of the facts:
* On September 23, 1999, police arrested three Federal Security Service (FSB) agents who had planted a detonator and RDX the same explosive used in the earlier bombings in the basement of a residential building in the city of Ryazan. The FSB explained the agents activities as a training exercise, claiming the sacks of explosives actually contained only sugar. The investigation was dropped and all evidence classified top secret.
* At about the same time, a Russian soldier discovered RDX in sacks labeled as sugar at his army base near Ryazan. The incident was never investigated and the evidence classified.
* On September 13, 1999, the Speaker of the Duma, Gennady Seleznev, announced that an apartment house in Volgodonsk had been blown up three days before the attack actually occurred.
* Mark Blumenfeld, the property manager of our house on Guryanova Street in Moscow that was blown up, told our lawyer and several journalists that FSB agents had talked him into changing his testimony. The agents showed him a photo of Achemez Gochiyayev, a Chechen he had never seen before, and under pressure he identified him as the man who had rented storage space in the basement.
* The composite sketch based on Mr. Blumenfelds initial description of what the real suspect looked like disappeared from the police file and was replaced with the photograph of Mr. Gochiyaev. Meanwhile, our attorney Mikhail Trepashkin, himself a former KGB agent, told reporters that he had recognized FSB agent Vladimir Romanovich from the police sketch. Romanovich was subsequently killed in Cyprus in a hit and run incident that was never solved.
* In November 2003, on the eve of the trial of two Chechens later convicted for transporting the explosives used in the Moscow bombings, Mr. Trepashkin was arrested after a gun had been planted in his car. This prevented him from submitting Mr. Blumenfelds statement to court that the FSB agents had pressured him to give false evidence. The trial of the two Chechens was not convincing to us or the world as it was held behind closed doors and human rights groups noted numerous violations of due process. Mr. Blumenfelds statement and the replacement of the police sketch with the photo of Mr. Gochiyayev was never reviewed by a Russian court.
* Four people investigating the FSBs possible involvement in the bombings were assassinated. Duma Deputy Sergei Yushenkov was shot dead in Moscow in April 2003 and his colleague Yuri Schekochihin died of apparent poisoning three months later. Journalist Anna Politkovskaya was gunned down in October 2006 in her Moscow apartment block and a month later, former KGB agent Alexander Litvinenko died of poisoning in London.
Many Russians have come to the conclusion that the bombings may have been the work of Russian security services. As for our family, our initial trust in the official version of a Chechen trail is long gone. We have come to believe that our mother and neighbors were sacrificed for a political end: To justify the war in Chechnya and help Vladimir Putin become president the following year. Only an objective investigation could make us change this view.
Mr. President, we are writing this open letter because we would like to believe that your ascent to the presidency will end this dark period in Russian history. You were not involved.
We realize that you owe the previous regime a debt of loyalty and gratitude. But the powers of the state were entrusted to you not to protect possible murderers. You are now in control of Russia and your position imposes a higher responsibility. Before history, the people and the memory of innocent victims, you have an obligation to find and tell the truth about these crimes.
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* A Record Harvest of Spies
* An Open Letter to the Federal Security Service (FSB) of Russia
* Opposition Activist Revealed as FSB Agent
* Beslan Rights Group Charged With Extremism
* Russian Immigration Agency Knew Nothing About Morars Deportation
* Investigative Journalist Barred From Returning to Moscow
* Kasparov on His FSB Interrogation
Source: Russian Terror Victims Ask for Truth:
The Federal Security Service (FSB - Federal'naya Sluzhba Bezopasnosti, previously known as Federal Counterintelligence Service - FSK) is the most powerful of the successors to the KGB.
By Konstantin Preobrazhensky
Americans generally believe that Russia is afraid of Islamic terrorism as much as the U.S.A. They are reminded of the war in Chechnya, the hostage crisis at the Beslan School in 2004 and at the Moscow Theater in 2002, and of the apartment house blasts in Moscow in 1999, where over 200 people were killed. It is clear that Russians are also targets of terrorism today.
But in all these events, the participation of the FSB, Federal Security Service, inheritor to the KGB, is also clear. Their involvement in the Moscow blasts has been proven by lawyer Mikhail Trepashkin, a former FSB Colonel. For this he was illegally imprisoned, and is now suffering torture and deprivation of medical assistance, from which he is not likely to survive.
A key distinction between Russian and American attitudes towards Islamic terrorism is that while for America terrorism is largely seen as an exterior menace, Russia uses terrorism as an object as a tool of the state for manipulation in and outside the home country. Islamic terrorism is only part of the world of terrorism. Long before Islamic terrorism became a global threat, the KGB had used terrorism to facilitate the victory of world Communism.
This leads to the logical connection between Russian and Islamic terrorism. The late Alexander Litvinenko, poisoned in London in November, 2006, told me that his former FSB colleagues had trained famous Al-Qaeda terrorists Ayman Al-Zawahiri and Juma Namangoniy during the 1980s and 1990s. Ayman Al-Zawahiri, one of the world's most wanted terrorists, has been responsible for the murder of U.S. nationals outside the United States. Before his death, Juma Namangoniy (Jumabai Hojiyev), a native of Soviet Uzbekistan, was a right-hand man of Osama bin Laden in charge of the Taliban's northern front in Afghanistan.
In 1996, Alexander Litvinenko was responsible for securing the secrecy of Al-Zawahiri's arrival in Russia, who was trained by FSB instructors in Dagestan, Northern Caucasus, in 1996-1997.
At that time, Litvinenko was the Head of the Subdivision for Internationally Wanted Terrorists of the First Department of the Operative-Inquiry Directorate of the FSB Anti-Terrorist Department. He was ordered to undertake the delicate mission of securing Al-Zawahiri from unintentional disclosure by the Russian police. Though Al-Zawahiri had been brought to Russia by the FSB using a false passport, it was still possible for the police to learn about his arrival and report to Moscow for verification. Such a process could disclose Al-Zawahiri as an FSB collaborator.
In order to prevent this, Litvinenko visited a group of the highly placed police officers to notify them in advance. "If you get information about some suspicious Arabs arriving in the Caucasus, please report it to me before informing your leadership", he told them.
Juma Namangoniy was once a student of the Saboteur Training Center of the First Chief Directorate of the KGB in 1989-91. The school was notorious for the international terrorists who matriculated from it. It now belongs to the FSB, and since only KGB staff officers were allowed to study there, Juma Namangoniy's presence clearly suggests that he was much more than a civil collaborator.
Mohammed Atta, the pilot of the first plane to crash into the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, had met with a senior Iraqi intelligence agent in Prague, Czech Republic, five months before the attack. But Iraqi intelligence was just a client of Russia's intelligence service. It brings a new understanding to the fact that President Putin was the first foreign President to call President Bush on 9/11. One may conjecture that he knew in advance what was to happen.
Muslim Name and Communist Heart
Tartars have always been patriotic to Russia. Their independent kingdom was conquered by Russia in the 16th century, but their gentry were allowed to join the Russian upper class and enjoy all its privileges. Even today, many Russian families of noble origin have Tartar origins. Russia has a half-millennium of experience in turning conquered Muslim nations into obedient citizens by bribing their elite.
There are many Soviet Muslims, therefore, who seem to face no conflict of spirit. One can be a Muslim in name only, whose heart belongs to Communism. There have been a lot of such people among Russian Muslims, especially among the Tartars. The Soviet Union has typically preferred to appoint them as ambassadors to Muslim countries. Their Muslim names give them a pass to the local society, but their Communist hearts order them to serve world Communism and not the world of Islam.
In the Soviet period, the highest leadership of the Muslim republics like Uzbekistan were unofficially allowed to practice Islam under the guise of folk rites, even though their Russian colleagues were severely reprimanded for participating in such Christian "rites" as Christmas or Easter. Unlike today, Soviet cartoonists were able to mock Islam as they mocked all other religions and it didn't bring any special reaction.
Muslims of the Uzbek and other Central Asian republics' elite joined the KGB intelligence in order to spy on fellow Muslim countries. In the KGB, I have met a lot of such quasi-Muslim officers.
Russia Grows Muslim
Putin continues the traditional Russian policy of giving privileges to the Muslim elite. Today's Russian Minister of Healthcare, Mikhail Zurabov, is a Chechen. His political agenda includes the total destruction of the Russian healthcare system, looking like revenge for the war in Chechnya. Putin shows no concern over that.
Strategically Russia is surrendering to the Muslim world. The Russian population is declining rapidly, being undermined by 70 years of Communist experiment and the cold indifference of post-communist rulers. Annually, Russia is losing 900 thousand people who are being replaced by Muslims from the Caucasus and Central Asia. Islam is now the second-largest religion in Russia, where it may total up to 28 million adherents. Because of this, Russia was able to join the Organization of the Islamic Conference in 2003.
Russia's great qualitative population change represents both a departure from the past and a strengthening link with it. The synergies between the history of Russia's national policies of terrorism and the radical Islamic terrorism that it is spreading around the world are natural partners that may severely impact on America's own future.
Konstantin Preobrazhensky, a former Lt. Colonel in the KGB who defected to the United States in 1993, is an intelligence expert and specialist on Japan, about which he has written six books. His newest book Russian-American, A New KGB Asset will be published in late 2007. This article was first published by Gerard Group International, Intel Analyses, 31 August 2007.
IF you can't stop somebody, it might be a good strategery to pretend friendship and redirect their aggression.
Can't the Arab League do anything by itself?
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The actor, gaunt but still retaining his good looks, here plays Ben Logan, an expat with a mysterious past. Making a home in Belgium along with estranged daughter (of course) Amy, Ben is slowly beginning to get a handle on life and work abroad. However, that's when his office, bank account and effectively his identity disappear overnight, and he's forced to go on the run with Amy in tow in order to a) survive and b) find answers to a needlessly convoluted international conspiracy. Luckily, Ben is ex-CIA, possessed of a very particular set of skills, skills he's acquired over a long career that make him a nightmare for the people who are after him. Sound familiar?
Amy is played by Liana Liberato and we'd be lying if we said hers wasn't a grating performance and an entirely unnecessary character. It isn't Liberato's fault, the actress ably filling the shoes of a scared teenager attempting to get a handle on things way out of her comfort zone. Unfortunately, Amy exists largely as a plot device, an opportunity to humanize Ben, and later on, inevitably, a bargaining chip.
It's curious to see how many films have recently utilized the father-daughter formula -- "Live Free or Die Hard" and "Taken" are just two examples, not to mention countless B-movies. We understand why it works -- it allows members of the audience who can't relate to the gruff, scarred killer to make a connection with his little girl, who eventually learns to hold her own. That said, it's a cheap ploy and one that's easy to handle poorly. Writer Arash Amel, whose other work includes the upcoming Nicole Kidman-starrer "Grace of Monaco," gives female characters in "Erased" the shortest shrift -- that includes Olga Kurylenko's thankless turn as a conflicted CIA agent who doubles as an exposition device.
"Erased" starts out strong, fully engaging the admittedly disturbing prospects of an American fish out of water without any credential to back up his claims. The mystery behind the liquidation of Ben's office and soon his co-workers grows more and more compelling until it's deflated 30 minutes in with an explanation that only serves to slightly confuse this critic. It all gets fleshed out, but for the rest of the running time, we are watching Ben catch up with us, and that makes for uninteresting cinema no matter how kinetic the action. Speaking of action, Ben squares off against forgettable heavies, some afforded dialogue, others the silent type, and director Philipp Stölzl does sturdy work making fight scenes intelligible.
The film's apparent popularity overseas is perhaps due to its soured view on America's role as a system of control/world police out to manage and, if necessary, destabilize foreign interests. Zealots may deem Eckhart damn near un-American for starring in a film that is so openly critical of American intervention. But maybe that's us reading way too much into what turns out in the end to be a solid VOD release, with Eckhart lifting his leading role out of anonymity and claiming it with a driven if not outstanding performance. [B-]
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Ex-'NYPD Blue' writer punches poodle to death, faces year in prison
Associated Press
Police say a former television screenwriter was arrested after punching his poodle in the face so hard that it died of a brain injury.
The New York Post reports Sunday (http://nyp.st/LYjcJc ) that 51-year-old Ted Shuttleworth was arrested Saturday at his home in Queens. The Post says Shuttleworth punched his dog on May 29 because he was angry with the animal. The dog weighed about four pounds.
A spokesman for the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals says the dog sustained a traumatic brain injury.
The newspaper reports Shuttleworth is a former TV writer who once worked for "NYPD Blue." He could face up to a year in prison.
His wife tells the newspaper that the dog's death was a "horrible accident."
What a pathetic loser. Send this guy to prison.
Someone need to do the same to him.....disgusting!
He should go to jail and not be able to own a dog or any animal again.
Terrible to hear this type of cruelty from a presumably educated man. BUT-I do not think he deserves 1 yr in prison. Lucky to get a 1 yr. prison term for murdering a human in Youngstown. Hope we hear the final outcome from this cruelty.
Question for the AP:
Why is the relatively irrelevent fact that this man was a screen writer for a TV series called "NYPD Blue", which ended more than 7 years ago, important enough that the name NYPD appears in the headline?
At first blush I got the mistaken impression that someone associated with NYPD had abused a dog; until I took a few more seconds to read the article. The key things in the headline that the eye and mind go to are "NYPD....punches....poodle....death". Could that be the effect the AP was gong for???


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Borderlands' Level Cap Increase Coming In "A Couple Of Weeks"
Written Thursday, October 28, 2010 By Richard WalkerView author's profile
Borderlands' latest Title Update was meant to arrive on October 12th to coincide with the release of the Game of the Year Edition, but has been notably absent for a while now. Thankfully, Gearbox has addressed the whereabouts of the Title Update v1.41 patch on its forums, declaring that it'll be available in "a couple of weeks" and will raise the level caps and fix achievements glitches.
"The Title Update is finished and in the process of being reviewed for launch. We are almost green lit across the board for this free update to be launched, but we still need just one more light to turn green," posts Gearbox marketing co-ordinator, Adam Fletcher. "In other words – we're *almost* there! We expect that last light to turn green within a couple of weeks, possibly sooner. Once this happens, the Title Update will be made immediately available for all platforms."
Here is what will be included in Title Update v1.41 patch:
- Level cap increase for all players of 8 levels. That means that all Borderlands players will now be able to achieve a new maximum level of 58.
- Owners of The Secret Armory of General Knoxx will achieve a record-setting increase to a maximum level of 69.
- End game players that have completed playthrough 2 will see enemies scale to the new levels up to the new level cap. That means that if you've completed everything, you can play through the game again and again at a challenging level in order to find better and better loot.
- Item drops (with the exception of COM Decks) will also scale with higher level enemies to the new level cap. That means that this Title Update features the highest level weapons to date!
- Other fixes, including DLC4 Achievement/Trophy glitches that have affected some users and will be corrected to properly award players for obtaining these achievements no matter which order they were completed in.
No reason was given for the free patch's delay, but at least we can rest assured that it is still coming soon.
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We went to Disney World last week for my older daughter's fifth birthday. It was also my younger daughter's first trip. We went to each park, Mickey's Not So Scary Halloween Party, the Fireworks Dessert Party, and a birthday breakfast at Chef Mickeys. My girls loved meeting the characters, and everyone had a wonderful time. Some of my favorite pictures:
meeting Minnie (she put Ruby's sunglasses on her)
both my girls on the teacups
Cinderella waking our Cinderella up from her nap
Ruby after her first haircut (at Disney World you get Mickey ears personalized with "My First Haircut," a certificate with your name, and a baggie w/ their hair)
my beauties on Gracie's birthday
meeting Daisy
meeting Tinkerbell at the Halloween Party
Ruby twirled and twirled in front of the mirror
my babies on the monorail together
Mommy to Grace Louise (10/20/07) and Ruby Diana (7/29/10)


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Kapalua Travel Guide: 17 reviews and 27 photos
Kapalua is an upscale resort town located in northwest Maui and is probably best known for its world-class golf. The Mecedes Championship for PGA golfers has been held on the Plantation course since 1999. Though we did not play, ( we're terrible golfers and it would be a waste of green fees) we walked some of the course in the evening when the golfers were through. The scenery was breathtaking! Much of it is on a hillside sloping down towards the sea with views of the ocean and the island of Molokai.
Kapalua translates to "arms embracing the sea" with its six bays and various sized peninsulas jutting into the beautiful crystal clear Pacific. Each bay is different, some have excellent snorkeling and swimming, others, surfing and boogie boarding.
The Kapalua butterfly logo is probably known to most avid golfers around the world. Golf attire and tourist garb adorned with the logo can be purchased everywhere.
My avid golfer colleagues could not believe I didn't play a round.
- Pros:Beautiful & quiet, world-class golfing, excellent snorkeling
- Cons:Expensive!
- In a nutshell:Paradise!
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Wonderful red- crested cardinal photo!
Wonderful shots! I would love to play with humpbacks and to visit this wedding beach. Wow, any VT weddings there soon?
Wonderful page, looks like our kind of island. Would love to go here some day. Very helpful information and photos. :o)
So I feel we've had a swim and played a round of golf together. So you've seen humpbacks and seals and sea lions before. . . pretty proud of yourself, I'll bet.
WOW!!! Ann you have done well. This page is destin to be one of the best on VT. Great write-ups and awesome pictures.
Ann, you should have played golf at the PGA course. With the prices they charge, I would have hit my divots and not worried. Divots are part of the game.
Another great Hawaii page. Don't you just love those freebees!
Lovely Bay's and Beaches there, Ann. Great pictures too.Must be really nice there, with those waters?huh! Refreshing!
So, I reckon Bob was footing the bills ;-) Great to have a husband like him, isn't it? & he cooks too! Ah, I'm envious, lol...
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They are the "Single-Track Hayasa" (http://bit.ly/ZhmLA)9 Perhaps my only gripe is that the soles feel very soft. Great if they will only touch dirt but realistically they will have to traverse some pavement and/or sandstone bluffs (when running up north).
I'm pretty particular about the toe box and these feel really good out-of-the-box. I can only imagine that they'll break in nicely. Another tradeoff may be that the lightweight materials might not be as durable as I'd like. Again, only time will tell.
These shoes are the spiritual successors to my all-time favorite trail running shoes (also TNF): the Cooper's Hill GTX XCR. (http://
bit.ly/12kBj63) I still repair them and use them for snowshoeing. There's never been a shoe that good and I suspect there never will be again (they were made too good. TNF needs to stack bundles and making shoes that last for more than two seasons doesn't help the bottom line).
Short version: The North Face SINGLE-TRACK HAYASA appears to be a great trail shoe. I'll whine like a little kid that just dropped their ice cream if they prove otherwise.
Shorewood High has two pools. One is historic, and very cool. Though, I do not know if it is open.
Riverside does not have a pool, I do not think.
I hate swimming with the swim team people. Even though I used to be one of them. And in my case, it is 12 year old girls.