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Hey y'all,
Avid DtL! reader Jessica Diamond sent me this impassioned letter about Roger Federer and her feelings about his influence and place in the game in light of his continuing on-court struggles. She gave me the go ahead to post it so I did!
Check it out:
Any avid tennis fan knows that lately, something stirs in your stomach when you see Roger play a loose couple of points. Last year, you would have thought, "Nah, it's okay. Roger's got him. He'll rally back." And then he always did. [Wednesday night], as the forehands were dropping farther and farther into the doubles alley, and less on target, you thought, "He could really lose this" and he did.
Watching Roger lose to Simon was especially uncomfortable and I'm not a fanatical Federer fan either. I have always loved his elegance and mastery, especially amongst so many robotic, muscular players who come to the net only 3x times per match. However, in years past, I've rooted for the underdog (not Nadal) because Semi-Finals and Finals were becoming downright boring. Now realizing that the #1 spot may be someone's new crown, I'm nervous. Simply put, Roger's the best guy for the job and maybe the only guy.
Has anyone considered what the #1 of tennis might look if it's not Federer? Nadal, who can't get through one simple sentence without butchering it, no? Djokovic, who will weave that undeniable arrogance into his courtside presence, not to mention his post-match interviews?
Anyone for that matter, besides Roger, in comparison, is nothing more than sloppy seconds. Tennis has been preserved by Federer's dominance.
This beautiful sport full of old traditions and sophisticated appeal is always in danger of becoming too edgy, too modern. While the level of play must progress and become more contemporary, there's something beautiful about the way tennis has hung onto it's roots. I like to think that Roger has had a big hand in that in the past 5 years. After all, Roger is Tennis reincarnate, their personalities and their aura are almost interchangeable.
Old fashioned, refined, traditional, affluent, articulate, and well-bred. I just don't see these traits in the boys that are salivating for the #1 spot.
Roger, too often in the past, we've been quick to obsess and praise you for your style of play. Now, with your #1 ranking slipping slowly through your fingers, we need to remind of you of your other job off the court. You are the Ambassador of Tennis, and the only one who can lead this sport with authenticity.
Good Luck and no pressure.
-Jessica Diamond
Alright, I'm sure you guys have thoughts on this letter - I most certainly do - and I'd love to hear them. And no worries, I made sure to let Jessica know to wear her best and thickest skin...
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Friday, July 25, 2008
A DtL reader argues the importance of being Federer - do you get it?
Labels: reader comments, Roger Federer, tennis
49 comments:
Can't speak for anyone else, but Jessica put my feelings perfectly. (Although I do have a lot of respect for how hard Nadal has worked in the last year or so to improve his English, and you can't read his Times blog and not think he's a sweetie.) But Roger is the quintessential tennis champion. On all levels, I feel like he makes the game look good. So pull yourself together, Roger, because we need you.ReplyDelete
Jessica - I loved the commentary. As a traditionalist myself, the #1 spot in the men's tour belongs to Federer. I don't follow the men's game that often, but Federer's class and athleticism epitomizes tennis. I agree with you 100%.ReplyDelete
Nice post!ReplyDelete
I'd argure that Roger can still be the Ambassador of Tennis, even without being No. 1. Being No. 1 doesn't automatically mean that you're No. 1 in the hearts and minds of the media and the fans - just think of Agassi's final years on the tour. Being No. 1 is obviously a huge part of Roger's identity (for him as well as his fans), but I'd argue that he's now at a similar point in his career where he doesn't need the No. 1 to validate his greatness. He can win more Majors without being No. 1.
I'd argue that the biggest thing he needs now is to stop worrying about losing the top spot and take a little pressure off.
Nadal deserves it - just think of the year he's had versus Fed's. And even as a Fed fanatic, I admire the Spaniard and think he's a great ambassador for tennis. And he speaks much better English than I speak Spanish!
- nadalfanJuly 25, 2008 at 10:14 AM
While I too respect Roger's game and his class; I do not see the need for the comment on Nadal's English skills. I think his game, while different from Federer's, is what should be a basis for comparison. Not his vocabulary or his language skills.ReplyDelete
It's bad enough that the centre and dominant paradigm have remained firmly in the English-speaking world, without having to drag sport into too. It is unfair and frankly, smacks of a sense of superiority- marking English as some sort of prerequisite. Dissect his game, not his language skills. Either way, Nadal has been nothing but courteous and has attempted to learn a foreign language, and I think it smacks of sheer partiality to bring up his language skills as a way to show him up against Federer. Let's talk lefty forehand to righty backhand instead? While you mention Djokovic's arrogance, what of Federer's? Is his arrogance more acceptable because he has a 'right' to it and Djokovic is all talk and no show at the moment?
Otherwise, I must say that I see Federer as important to the game and I do agree with you on other points, just don't see the validity of bringing up Nadal's language skills. All I can see it affecting are his marketability, which I don't think he's too fussed about.
I don't believe that tennis requires preservation. It does not need to hold onto the 'old' and the 'traditional'. It's like the English language- if it doesn't update itself and incorporate new things and remain dynamic, it will die out. Like Latin.. or Real Tennis.
Tennis, like the number one spot, needs change. It needs to grow.. regardless of the language it does it in.
- AnonymousJuly 25, 2008 at 10:45 AM
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While I agree that Federer is an extremely classy guy, I agree 110% with nadalfan that the comment on Rafa not being able to speak in English was a bit out of place. Just because you can't speak English does not mean that you do not deserve to be the number 1 player in the world. I understand that taking on that position means, whether the future #1 player likes it or not, that they will have to be ambassadors for the sport, but actions speak louder than words, and Rafa's athleticism and on court intensity and dedication should count more than what he can say in the press room.
As for Nole, while I can't stand his guts, I have no right to say that he doesn't deserve to be number 1 as well. All of them have worked hard and at the end of the day, that is all that counts in the #1 race.
As for Roger, he's slowly revealing his true self with how he's handling these recent losses. I remember very well how Roger would give underhanded comments on Rafa's game when the Spaniard started going up the rankings and beating him regularly, saying that he was one-dimensional and that he's a grinder. He's learned to accept, though, that Rafa is his main challenger and even said last year that if there's anyone else who he thinks deserves to be #1, then that would be Rafa. But that was last year, when Roger was a ton of points ahead of Rafa. Now that they're within a few hundred points apart, Roger seems to feel that he still deserves to be #1 and Rafa doesn't.
Roger's articulate and chooses his words wisely, but if you simplify what he's saying, seems to me that behind his perfect english, there's only bitterness and denial.
I'm sure he'll bounce back (and I would love to see him bounce back) but I would also want him to really be more sincere when he says that he's enjoying his rivalry with Rafa. Seems to me that he's only enjoying it when he's on top, not when he's the one chasing.
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And, just in a follow up to people saying that the Nadal not being to speak English are out of place, he's 22. Djokovic is a year younger than him and fluent in Italian, German, Serbian and English. And I'm pretty sure Federer was fluent when he was that age too. With all the travelling that the man does, you would expect Rafa to have improved more than he has. If everyone else can do it, so can he.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousJuly 25, 2008 at 10:58 AM
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Sarah, but why does rafa have to learn English? Do you know how to speak Spanish? Porque? Do you need that to play tennis?
I think it's offensive for people to continue to bash Rafa's speaking skills. And while I have a respect for Federer's skills, he's not the classiest guy on the planet. There are many times he can't keep his ego in check (confidence is one thing, ego is another) and many times where he hasn't been all that cool to fans. Just because he has a fancy logo on his hat doesn't mean he's all golden.ReplyDelete
- KINGRAFAJuly 25, 2008 at 11:40 AM
I agree 200% with Nadalfan. Really! Some people act as though Nadal has taken a gun to Fed's head and said your ranking or your life. I have nothing but immense respect for all of Roger's wonderful achievements but open your eyes people. There is no way possible that he can win EVERY MATCH AND EVERY TOURNAMENT. It has to come to an end at some time. ACCEPT IT! Roger isn't going to live to be 200 and he's not going to win everything.ReplyDelete
And last I checked, not knowing how to speak proper english wasn't a requirement for winning slams. Rafael Nadal is and will continue to be a wonderful representative for the game throughout the world. As you might know, there are languages on this planet besides english. You're unhappy/jealous/angry that Rafa's game is currently better than Roger's so you have to pick on his english and his press conference skills? Bit petty, don't you think? Well, who's still in this tournament in Toronto? Who held up the trophies in Paris and London? All that and and the poor kid can barely put a whole sentence together in english.
While I agree with nadalfan that Rafa's english skills should not be a factor over here, i'd also like to say that inspite of the recent losses, federer is one class guy and one of the best in the game. And he's only human, this was eventually gonna happen one way or the other. The point is, even if federer did criticize nadal's game one time or the other, I think we can cut him some slack there because as far as I can remember it, he praised his good points too and nenevr rubs it in, like djokovich, who simply gets in your face with his attitude.ReplyDelete
Also, the press have made the whole thing into a circus. I mean, cut the guy some slack, even the best can sometimes not deliver. Apart from being a huge federer fan, i'd also like too look at rafa with resect for all that he has achieved and not letting it all get to him. He stayed true to his roots, which many people don't. If everyone would just for moment stop crying about federer losing his spot, they might actually see that maybe, he needs time to regroup without the whole world hounding him about it. His responsibility's greater than ours, we don't have the whole world screaming at us if we make mistakes.
I really find it amusing that the media deems that the men's tennig game had gotten too 'boring' with federer dominatins, whereas at the very same time they wish they had a more 'federer-ish' player in the female tennis players who'd want to rule it like him....well, I guess their wishes did come true for the men's tennis..
Hi. I just wanted to throw my support behind the "Nadal's English doesn't matter" crew. It doesn't have anything to do with how hard he's worked on the court to get to where he's at now.ReplyDelete
I agree that Roger's a great ambassador for the sport. The bigger question, I feel, is what does that mean? He may be articulate, but is he really bringing more people to the sport? The people that play tennis and follow it aren't going anywhere, but no one's picking up tennis racquets because of Federer—at least here in the U.S.—like they're picking up golf clubs because of Tiger.
Until either Federer or Nadal reaches Tiger level, then what difference does it make?
I hope Federer keeps it going, just because I like the idea of him achieving historical things. But I wouldn't lament it if he fell out of the top spot. I personally think, though, that he's going to be OK.
Um, is anyone else disgusted by the classist strains running through Jessica's remarks? How is affluence a virtue? Who uses "well-bred" to describe people anymore? And then the whole English thing... Where are these Victorian sentiments coming from?ReplyDelete
Also, in what universe is Nadal inauthentic? In what ways is Nadal's "breeding" deficient? I can't think of a single player on tour who's more honest, humble, and mentally tough... all qualities no doubt cultivated by his uncommonly close and loving upbringing.
For the record, I adore Federer and what he brings to tennis. I also happen to adore Nadal and what ^he^ brings to tennis. I don't see the race for No. 1 as an allegory for Gilded-Age refinement fighting off the onslaught of modern-day boorishness. Of course it's natural and fun to attach abstract meanings to sporting contests, but to say that tennis ^needs^ a certain kind of No. 1 exaggerates the extent to which the image of tennis is affected by who happens to have the most ranking points. F and N are already equally important ambassadors for the sport, and their relative exposure is not likely going to change drastically if their rankings should flip. The urgency and earnestness with which Jessica argues shows how much she cares about the moral victory of her favorite competitor being No. 1… (I felt similarly impassioned for Agassi, say, when Hewitt was No. 1 in the world). I just don't share her opinion of what makes Federer root-worthy, nor do I suffer well her garishly misguided characterization of Nadal.
Ditto for me, Dane.ReplyDelete
I don't think elitist is an attribute that serves tennis well. Frankly it's just ugly and betrays a certain narrowness of thought. The remark about his English was just completely our of place. English proficiency does not elevate people's game. However Jessica clearly believes English is a prerequisite for being a champion. I think that speaks volumes about her.
Rafa is charismatic presence on and off the court. He respects the game and his fellow players. His commitment and work ethic are beyond doubt. He is generous in victory and gracious in defeat. That is what makes a great champion to me.
I am a long time fan of Roger Federer. He has been and will continue to be an ambassador for the game and true champion. Facing a true rival, like Nadal, will be a true test of his fortitude and determination. At last the men's game has a classic (in terms of quality not tradition) rivalry again.
BTW. I cant help but feel that Rich at DTL was seeding some controversy here.
"Old fashioned, refined, traditional, affluent, articulate, and well-bred. I just don't see these traits in the boys that are salivating for the #1 spot."ReplyDelete
This particular passage so annoys me that I must comment again. In fact I would like to know something Jessica. Would you prefer those who are non-English proficient, unrefined, not from affluent, or "well bred" families be relegated to chasing down the ball for their "superiors" rather than actually playing and winning?
Truly an unfortunate state of mind.
- AnonymousJuly 25, 2008 at 2:20 PM
as most other people have said, the comment about rafa's english is totally irrelevant and an unnecessary stab at him. so what?ReplyDelete
and you talk about "robotic" tennis players...if anyone is robotic it's federer - he is the one who has managed to sustain an impeccable level over the past 4 or 5 years. he's the inhuman one!
and nadal completely deserves the #1 spot. to say that federer is "the best guy for the job" is not exactly what that spot represents, the #1 spot is who has played the best, not as a job for an "ambassador of tennis!"
and tennis would not be preserved without competition. the sport needs other players that can challenge him, otherwise it's the same old same old.
umm, and i don't know how you can call djokovic "arrogant" and talk about his "post-match interviews" when federer goes and belittles his opponent when he loses, e.g. "that match was insignificant" (after losing to djokovic, montreal 07)
"Old fashioned, refined, traditional, affluent, articulate, and well-bred. I just don't see these traits in the boys that are salivating for the #1 spot."
ok so now to be a good player they have to be clones of federer? do they all need to wear crested cardigans as well?
haha agree that you want are definatley rooting for some controversy here!
- AnonymousJuly 25, 2008 at 2:22 PM
i'm sorry, but i can't express my rage quite as tastefully as neruda and co...ReplyDelete
if your 'not a fanatical fan' of roger, why stoop so low?
I can't help but find big parts of Jessica's letter, as well as a few posts here, VERY IMMATURE.ReplyDelete
As many others here have already well put, bashing Rafa's language skills is getting really old. Not that I would have to defend him, but for the record: His English has improved a lot, and not everyone learns foreign languages easily. I also don't think that he owes anyone perfect English. He could very well get a translator and speak Spanish alone, period. But he's doing his best to be polite and all. By the way, it's very unprofessional insulting his personality by putting it in quotation marks.
I also can't really agree on Nole being arrogant.
Do want to discuss the sport of tennis and what people bring to it? Then grow up and respect every sportsman out there. They all have worked very hard to get there and I'm sure they are all special people, everyone in their own way - because, duh, people are different. That's also what makes this sport interesting.
The only thing I agree with is that Federer is a great ambassador for the sport and always will be - no matter what his ranking is. He's already a legend, and he's only human. The day will come when he will lose the No. 1 spot (probably to Rafa), but that doesn't mean forever anyway. And nobody can take away from him what he has already achieved. What a great sports personality.
And all childish comments can't change the fact that Rafa is one, too. I like that he brings this modern, powerful, stylish side to tennis - and even though he is a totally different type than Roger is, he is this wonderful, humble person and a great champion.
As about Nole - I can only give him credit, too. He's made such a great development during the last year, he's funny and outgoing - just what the sport needs, too. He will achieve so much more in the future, I'm sure.
OK, that was my rant about this whole sad and, frankly, very frustrated sounding letter. Cheers to all of you out there who love tennis and ALL their great ambassadors.
- AnonymousJuly 25, 2008 at 3:35 PM
A poorly researched rant. You fell for the outward appearances, not to mention your own fandom.ReplyDelete
I fail to see how affluence is relevant to anyone's tennis, but FYI Rafa comes from a more affluent family than Federer. Rafa's father has been an extremely well-off owner of several businesses, while Federer Sr. is a paid employee.
As for being old fashioned, traditional, well-bred etc. etc. (again, irrelevant for tennis), you obviously know nothing of Nadals, who are a true epitome of all that. Just because their son wears long hair and sleeveless vest (as opposed to crested cardigan), you seem to assume he's an inner city street thug.
Try and google early photos and videos of Federer: when he was Rafa's age, there were no crested cardigans and perceived classiness, but plenty of vulgar bleach blonde hair, tacky necklaces and foul-mouthed raging on court.
I think you are all wasting your time crying over who deserves or should be number 1. whoever earns it should be number 1. whoever works on his game, strengthens his weaknesses, figures out how to consistently beat those ahead of him until he can claw his way to the top is number 1. whether or not their english is understandable or they represent "refinement" or "tradition" is a bunch of baloney. and tennis is about more than who is number one. everyone playing at the top levels of the game represents what the sport is and where it is going. not just the number 1. but i do have to say, these people that get to number one and have the arrogance to come up with their own logos (the "RF") and who have their own custom made slam outfits (roger's cardigan, or his blazer last year, maria's tuxedo outfit, serena's trench coat) not to mention their own special handbags that they carry on court - that to me is insulting to the game. Play the game! All the top players wear the newest lines from adidas, nike, fila, whatever. They don't have custom outfits to debut for each slam. THAT's what bugs me the most about Federer and Sharapova and others - they feel they are at such a level that they need to have their own custom outfits that no one else can have.ReplyDelete
"Has anyone considered what the #1 of tennis might look if it's not Federer? Nadal, who can't get through one simple sentence without butchering it, no? Djokovic, who will weave that undeniable arrogance into his courtside presence, not to mention his post-match interviews?ReplyDelete
Anyone for that matter, besides Roger, in comparison, is nothing more than sloppy seconds. Tennis has been preserved by Federer's dominance."
It is sad to see such love go hand in hand with h***.
"Old fashioned, refined, traditional, affluent, articulate, and well-bred."ReplyDelete
Wow. What an absolutely disgusting comment. In fact, the entire write up made me sad that someone actually thinks this way.
Let me ask you this then, Ms. Diamond:
Which tradition was Billie Jean King following when she helped tear down barriers for women in the sport?
What about Arthur Ashe? If he followed tradition, he would never have picked up a racquet.
Are they beneath your definition of what makes a good tennis player?
Do their achievements count any less because they don't fit into your category of the sport?
They were and will continue to be two of the the biggest ambassadors the sport has ever seen.
I would also like to ask you this Ms. Diamond, are you some sort of an insider into the lives of Nadal and Djokovic that qualifies you to make them out to be so lowly and unworthy of their hard earned achievements? I doubt either was raised by wolves.
When you make such bigoted, antiquated comments, you aren't doing anything to promote the game of tennis and you're certainly not doing anything to promote Roger Federer. I highly doubt he has such thoughts and I'm ashamed that you, someone I don't know from a hole in the wall, have these thoughts.
And for the record, please don't try and place your backward thinking opinion on all tennis fans. Nothing stirs up in my stomach when I see Federer play a loose couple of points. I call it good tennis when people play up to their potential (or beyond it) and make a match challenging rather than getting steam-rolled against a higher ranked player.
P.S. I was in a rush when I first posted, and missed the "well-bred" comment. That is COMPLETELY offensive. And I would go on and on but I see that twenty other people said about everything I was about to.ReplyDelete
well-bred. You should be ashamed of yourself for writing that.
- AnonymousJuly 25, 2008 at 9:42 PM
I think there's a big difference between being an amazing tennis player and being an amazing ambassador for tennis. I'm not being elitest when I say that I believe being fluent in English is pretty important to being an ambassador for tennis. After all, three of the four grand slams are held in English-speaking countries. I realise that Rafa's on-court behaviour and his tennis skills may speak for themselves to true tennis fans, but being an ambassador also means promoting the sport to a wider audience. And the reality is, the English-speaking world makes up a good portion of tennis fans around the world.ReplyDelete
Also I'd like to point out that you can achieve amazing results on court and still be generally disliked by the public. Anyone remember the days when Lleyton Hewitt was suing the ATP?
- AnonymousJuly 25, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Rich nust be enjoying this like crazy! hahahahaReplyDelete
- AnonymousJuly 25, 2008 at 11:46 PM
"I find it harder and harder every day to live up to my blue china."ReplyDelete
Roger Federer
Ambassadors can, and often do, use translators. All these guys are fantastic ambassadors for tennis and deserve our R-E-S-P-E-C-T. Not to mention the ladies.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousJuly 25, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Good article. Thank you.ReplyDelete
The sentence above was by Oscar Wilde actually.
Yes, we need Roger Federer.
- nadalfanJuly 25, 2008 at 11:56 PM
Re-reading this doesn't make me look at this in another perspective.ReplyDelete
Some of this, in my opinion, is absolute hyperbole, waxing lyrical upon the great attributes of Federer.
Ms Diamond, you make a few comments I hope you'd clarify. 'Anyone for that matter, besides Roger, in comparison, is nothing more than sloppy seconds. Tennis has been preserved by Federer's dominance', what exactly do you mean by 'sloppy seconds'?
I don't want to jump to conclusions and be offended for (at least) the top 10 players, so I figure I should ask.
As for the preservation, it reminds me of pickles in a bottle. Tennis is not a pickle, it does not need to 'preserve'. It is a competition, it needs to be all fire and fury, it needs a challenge. What it does not need, is complacency. You remarked earlier that watching the finals and the semi finals had gotten boring, Federer had gotten comfortable in his perch. And now, the siege begins. This is what tennis needs: a real competition. It pushes the best to prove themselves, over and over again. It has no space for a 'comfortable' lead. It is only when the kingdom is threatened that a champion shows his mettle, his strength and his greatness. This is the first time in a very, very long time that Federer's throne has really been under siege and now he's feeling it. A champion comes out to defend his own, tennis racquet blazing... we are yet to see the end of the battle. And in a way that is what matters: the battle. The throne is secondary.
This is, I suppose, even more relevant in light of the 'Roger is Tennis reincarnate' statement. No, he isn't. Nobody is. Supreme tennis is the ideal, it's something you work towards... and once you achieve that ideal, the ideal is no longer an ideal. It is thus, destroyed. It is the working towards it that matters. You can't achieve it, that's sort of the point. Roger will never be it, he might be close, but never quite there. Especially with Nadal around, exploiting Fed's weaknesses and Fed crumbling under the pressure in his own mind, to spray unforced errors and plummet his serve stats. That, is not tennis reincarnate.
'Old fashioned, refined, traditional, affluent, articulate, and well-bred. I just don't see these traits in the boys that are salivating for the #1 spot' ...Oh. I think everyone else has covered this much better than I can. I'm afraid I will spew fire and brine in my disgust.
And, to address a few comments made in response to everyone else:
Sarah: you speak of Djokovic and his language abilities. Of course he speaks Serbian, so that's a given. The English is easily explained. With a NATO presence in his country while he was growing up, do you not think the schools would be teaching English? As for the Italian and German, didn't he train in a country outside of his own? Plus of course, there is the point that someone else made about different learning abilities?
And to anonymous who posted on the 26th at 12:42 am (I don't know if blogger changes time to fit my time zone.. ): I don't mean to be judgemental or anything, I assure you. I apologise if I come across that way.
English is the current dominant paradigm. Everything works in English. But that doesn't mean everyone who is not at the centre of this paradigm must speak English, or is somehow less relevant. We can't just say, 'oh too bad; English is tops because everyone speaks English'. It is, if I were to push it, another form of imperialism. It is forcing a foreign language onto someone else and saying, 'Sorry; your language isn't enough if you want to communicate with me'. And that is frankly, crap.
And just because 3 of the 4 Grand Slams are held in English speaking countries, it is no reason to require players to speak fluent English.
Once again, I don't mean to come off sounding like I'm targeting you or attacking you.. I'm just trying to make my point about the English language being given more importance than any other.
I like that you differentiated between a 'player' and an 'ambassador'. It cleared up a lot of things for me. I'd like to add another bit there, 'player', 'ambassador' and 'marketability'.
I think Federer could pull off all three with aplomb. Yet, Nadal and Djokovic can as well.. in their own distinct and inimitable styles.
I don't see how Rafa's skills hold him back on the marketability- sure, there's no cardigan and I reckon he's too 'no-nonsense' to ever submit to that- his piratas are as much a statement. Rafa's press conferences are interesting (and not just because I am a fan) because he unfailingly polite, gracious and always courteous. He is, undoubtedly, shy and uncomfortable in the language, but he tries and has remarkably improved. He is doing, at such a young age, a lot for the world. Isn't that something an ambassador does? He's set up his foundation, he's donated to charities,made time for other obligations and he's done it all with boyish charm and so, guilelessly. I think that's just as valid as Federer's ambassador-dom.
As for most of the tennis fans being from the 'English-speaking' world- I don't quite know how you define that, but in any case, it doesn't mean the other fans are any less important or wield any less power. The players though, the numbers show that most of them are not from the English-speaking part of the world, so what does that say for tennis and holding onto English?
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Sarah, but why does rafa have to learn English? Do you know how to speak Spanish? Porque? Do you need that to play tennis?"
Yes, in fact. I struggle with languages and I can speak Spanish with never having been to the country. I do, however, travel a lot. And I know that if someone takes time they can pick up a language easily as I have with French. No, Rafa doesn't need to play tennis. Yes, he deserves the top spot. I'm just saying that I've always taken Roger Federer for granted for being charismatic and speaking English. It was only when I saw him on French and German TV that I thought what an achievement it was. I'm not saying that because Rafa can't speak English as well he doesn't deserve to be in the top spot, that's ridiculous. I'm only saying that more of his personality would come through if he improved, and he has been on the tour for some time so you would have expected him too. Yes it is out of line to have cheap digs if you are a huge Federer fan, but the truth is, many casual fans won't be as interested in Nadal if they can't understand him as well. I'm all for a new face of tennis, and I'm happy for Rafa. I can also see where Jessica is coming from in saying a lot of traditionalist fans of the sport will be sad to see Roger lose the top spot. I did miss "well-bred" the first time I read it, and that was out of line.
- AnonymousJuly 26, 2008 at 4:22 AM
My point was simply:ReplyDelete
Someone who is fluent in French, English, Swiss German, and German can reach a broader audience than someone who is fluent only in Spanish.
I have the utmost respect for Rafa and he deserves to reach no.1. But I will miss having Federer at the top.
I think most of us agree onReplyDelete
1)There is no relevance of Rafa's skills to him attaining th number 1 point
2)Federer, regardless of his slide, is truly an ambassador for the sport
Truly people, regardless of Federer being a class player and all, i think all of us fans agree that if Rafa attains the no 1 spot, he'd truly deserve it, REGARDLESS of his personal style or eloquence. And arrogance in the number one player can be forgiven, as long as he doesn't go shooting his mouth off like Djokovic. Because i've seen him appreciate other players more than he berates them. And I think Federer knows, that Rafa will be the deserving no. 1 if he gets that position.
Also, I think this might be a n opportunity for Federer to actually get out of that pressure and complex of those 'records' that he has to accomplish, and see that he has to play good and win, rather than looking at some stupic statistics to make himself feel good. And he should take this opportunity to assess his game, look at his weaknesses.
I have to post again... This whole language debate really annoys me.ReplyDelete
I 100% agree with nadalfan's post and many others: Who said that English is the most important language of all? In my opinion the only thing English can claim regarding worldwide importance is that it's become sort of a universal form of communication between people with different first languages. And Rafa (or many others not perfectly fluent in English) do communicate, don't they? I really can't say I don't understand him.
Someone also said that sort of the main part of the world speaks English. True, but last time I checked also a large part of the world has Spanish as a first language.
And about Roger's language skills: he comes from Switzerland. German, French and Italian are official languages. I'm sure he had better opportunities learning them than Rafa.
But anyway, since when is tennis (or being an ambassador for it) all about how many languages you speak? I beg to differ that it matters in order to reach audiences. Again, this is what translators are for! I personally don't care what languages tennis players speak or don't speak. Actually I never would've thought such a thing could matter until I read all those comments bashing Rafa's English. I was like: Duh, how mean and out of place is that?!
But a little note to those who think Rafa is unworthy of anything because of his English: Apparently he doesn't have any problems with it, he's very respected and popular in the whole tennis machinery and he doesn't need your approval of his skills.
- AnonymousJuly 26, 2008 at 8:56 AM
Nadalfan, I think you should have written a letter for this blog. Very well written, absolutely correct, post.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousJuly 26, 2008 at 10:35 AM
Nadal kills competition in almost the same way as Roger Federer did for many years.ReplyDelete
Just that I like Rogers beautiful tennis and dislike Nadals grinding style.
But hey, it's sport and sport isn't about beauty or speaking english, it's about winning.
- AnonymousJuly 26, 2008 at 11:58 AM
"I'm not a fanatical Federer fan either." Oooo. Kay. Scary thought.ReplyDelete
This letter does nothing to break down the stereotype of Federer's fans as prissy elitists. Schade.
- AnonymousJuly 26, 2008 at 2:06 PM
Aesthete vs HolzhackerReplyDelete
Just kidding.
- AnonymousJuly 26, 2008 at 2:42 PM
Jessica, are you part of the extended Gimelstob clan?ReplyDelete
I love Federer, and I am a fanatic, but don't tell me Nadal doesn't hold a candle to him. That's nonsense. Nadal just beat him on clay and grass, and Fed is still in his prime. I'd say that's a big candle. No one stays on top forever, and it's time for an exciting rivalry. I think you're losing the forest through the trees. As much as I love him, the game is bigger than Federer, and it always will be.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousJuly 26, 2008 at 6:47 PM
You are not an "avid tennis fan" and you sure as hell are a "fanatical Federer fan". Stop living in denial - you'll be happier. Probably the best thing for you to do if Federer does slip down the rankings is to stop watching tennis (or "Tennis" as you like to call it) as you obviously derive no pleasure from watching any other player and are not interested in the sport itself.
By the way, "it's" means "it is" and tennis, being a sport (yes, really, it's a sport and not a "who's the fellow with the best English and the loveliest hair?" competition) can have neither a personality, nor an aura. Furthermore I can imagine the *style* of play becoming more contemporary, but the *level*? "Old traditions"? "Old" is redundant there, no? I could go on. If you are a native English speaker (or the child of one, like Roger Federer), you should be embarrassed by your sloppy use of the English language. I'm sure your Spanish is impeccable though.
- AnonymousJuly 26, 2008 at 7:07 PM
LMAO @ the Gimelstob clan comment! :-)))ReplyDelete
- roger4everJuly 27, 2008 at 3:04 AM
No one can do it like Roger - but to be fair, he's had YEARS of practice. Novak's arrogance has been bruised by his bad streak and really, you can't hate Rafa no matter how much you love Roger. Although I DO agree that Roger only seems to "enjoy the rivalry" with Rafa when he can handle it. He should retire while he's ahead, he's completely lost it anyway and should go down with some dignity -- and the top seeding, if he's smart.ReplyDelete
- nadalfanJuly 27, 2008 at 3:42 AM
Take time to learn a language? I'd rather Rafa spent his time working on his serve than on his language skills.
The life of a professional player is much different to us mere mortals, I'd wager.
Kudos on picking up a new language. I, having lived all 21 years of my life in various countries (most of which are not traditionally part of the 'english-speaking' world), my foreign-language skills are pitiful. That's not because I haven't tried, it's because I'm useless at them and butcher them. Of course, I can handle the 'Wie Gehts' 'Danke, Gut' pleasantries, but ask me a complex question and I'm back to floundering and butchering a simple sentence. Rafa doesn't exactly get asked the 'Wie Gehts' questions.
But perhaps he hasn't had the time to work on it.
@ roger4ever - If Roger loves his game, he won't retire simply for the reason he no longer has the number one spot...And he's not a kid just to throw a fit because he no longer rules the tennis world. He'll want to improve and come back, stronger than ever to regain his rankings...Bjorn Borg, I believe, would've done better if he had done the same thing too...nothing better than rising from the ashesReplyDelete
- AnonymousJuly 27, 2008 at 4:12 PM
All of you people are crazy! This girl isn't running for President, she's just stating her belief about who should represent tennis right now. I have read and re-read this article and can't see how her comments are Gimselstob-esque. Roger is from Switzerland, not an English speaking country, but he mastered the language. What's the big deal? If Nadal wanted to learn the language better, he could. If you go anywhere in this world, and you don't speak the native language, you can default to English worse case scenario. You don't default to German or Spanish do you? The interviews are always in English because that way all countries can watch and understand for the most part. Also, these comments about elitism are out of nowhere. Well-bred doesn't mean white, or english speaking. Here is the definition: 1. well brought up; properly trained and educated. I don't see where in her article she says that Nadal ISNT well-bred, but maybe she feels that Roger is the total package. It's amazing how quick everyone is to assume negativity and infer racism and other social injustices. All that aside, Nadal is quite the athlete and he deserves to fight for #1.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousJuly 28, 2008 at 4:18 AM
"Old fashioned, refined, traditional, affluent, articulate, and well-bred. I just don't see these traits in the boys that are salivating for the #1 spot."ReplyDelete
It is impossible to read this sentence as not suggesting that Nadal, Djokovic and others are not "well-bred" etc etc. And that affluence should be taken as a pre-requisite for success in the tennis world. Sorry Anon, you seem like an intelligent, fair minded person but you are wasting your time trying to defend this snobbish nincompoop.
Incidentally Jessica, Rafael Nadal does come from an "affluent" family, and can trace his ancestry on Mallorca back to the 14th century. Is he allowed to play tennis now?
- AnonymousJuly 28, 2008 at 4:25 AM
"well-bred" (Merriam Webster)ReplyDelete
1 : having or displaying good breeding
2 : having a good pedigree
1: a register recording a line of ancestors
2 a: an ancestral line : lineage b: the origin and the history of something; broadly : background, history
3 a: a distinguished ancestry b: the recorded purity of breed of an individual or strain
Not elitist at all, right?
- AnonymousJuly 28, 2008 at 4:47 AM
"Roger is from Switzerland, not an English speaking country, but he mastered the language".ReplyDelete
His mother is an English speaking South African. Mastering the language was not exactly a big stretch for him.
- AnonymousJuly 29, 2008 at 9:50 PM
I'm going to ignore the language question, because it's just plain silly. Bjorn Borg's English when he was number one was sketchy and he was a fair tennis ambassador. A great tennis ambassador.ReplyDelete
I'm an old enough tennis fan to accept that things change. You young 'uns have probably not lived through a thirty year tennis cycle, but you will.
As to Roger being GOAT, Freaky Frites (a Fedophile)at GOTOTENNIS has an amusing scientific take on it today.
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Twin Molded Side Pipes - A Bit On The SideWritten by on March 19, 2008 Twin Molded Side Pipes On A Shoebox Ford
You may recall the shoebox Ford in our February issue that received frenched and leaded headlights. A mild kustom coming together at Brad Masterson's shop, it'll be unchopped and retain its door handles, but a healthy lowering job, as well as those frenched lights, give it the look. Going a step further, the owner, Dave Chavez, opted for molded twin side pipes-a traditional custom trick from the later '50s. It's a look we haven't seen in a while (now we'll get letters!), so we thought you might like to see how it's done. Of course, these are dummy pipes, with the real exhaust system underneath the car. At least this way passengers won't burn their legs when exiting the vehicle!
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Wanting to fabricate twin pipes for each side of the car, Brad selected exhaust tubing with an outside diameter of 1 1/2 inches, which will eventually be chromed.With the tubing cut to length, Brad tack-welded the 1 3/4-inch tubing together, keeping them parallel to each other. Note one is longer than the other, since they will be stepped.Using 1/4-inch round stock, Brad tack-welded the end as pictured, and then used oxyacetylene to heat the stock and bend it to follow the previously cut steps.With the excess trimmed, both sides of the round stock can now be finish-welded to form the beaded edge. Before final welding, a small triangular filler section was added in the valley between the two sections of tubing.Once fully welded, Mike got the thankless job of grinding and dressing the welds in preparation for leading, while we moved to the other side of the car where Brad trial-fitted the side pipes to determine the length and where the rear mounting brackets would need to go.The first bend follows the curvature of the pipes followed by a bend to follow the horizontal section, the process repeated until both steps have what will become the beaded edge.Once the tubing was welded to the rocker panel, it required two bends at the bottom of the front fender to enable the pipes to appear to exit the bodywork. These bends were trimmed from a pair of 1 3/4-inch-diameter, 90-degree bends.
After each bend, Brad tack-welded the stock to the tubing to prevent any movement, and then trimmed the excess.With the tubing tacked to the rocker panel, the bends were trimmed for a good fit using a small air grinder. Once tacked in place, the bends were removed and "adjusted" a few times before Brad was happy with the way they flowed into the straight sections.These brackets were welded to the pipe and attach to brackets welded to the inner rocker panel underneath the car. The bracket for the outer side pipe required extra bracing, as it is 2 inches longer than this one and would flex with use, eventually breaking.With Mike's work done, we returned to the driver side where Brad set about preparing to apply lead. He started by tinning the tubing and then melting the lead stick onto the pipes.We went through the process of leading in our February issue, so we won't explain it all again here; suffice to say a small paddle was used to shape the lead in the valleys between each tube and between the tubing and the rocker panel.After some careful paddle work and shaping with files, Brad started sanding the now-molded side pipes in preparation for primer.


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Kia Motors Corp. is recalling nearly 80,000 minivans in the U.S. because a suspension part can break and cause drivers to lose control of the vehicles.
The recall affects Sedona minivans from 2006 through 2012. They were sold or registered in 20 states and Washington, D.C., where salt is used to clear roads in the winter.
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I'm messing around with a Zimbra Installation and I'm always running into an issue where the initial configuration and setup process during installation (after you've setup the admin-pwd)
prints out tons of error messages. I'm pretty sure it is all related to a JRE-VM memory issue. The installation log reports "insufficient memory" as soon as the process tries to setup the basic
Zimlets. After that almost all of the steps fail because of the leg of memory within the JRE-VM.
I'v read a couple of threads in the Forum related to this but they all point to Zimbra settings which you should change after installation.
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ROCKVILLE, Md. (WUSA9) -- Firefighters in Montgomery County rescued a driver trapped inside a vehicle that went over a guardrail and down an embankment early Tuesday morning.
Police reported the driver had minor injuries, and was transported to Suburban Hospital for further evaluation.
Maryland State Police say the vehicle left the roadway and went approximately 25 feet down an embankment off of the ramp from southbound I-270 to eastbound I-370. Police say the driver was trapped and has suffered injuries. Around 6:19 a.m. rescuers were able to remove the patient on a backboard. The victim was then placed on a waiting stretcher. The victim has minor injuries, according to state police.
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In the New Testament, sometimes the authors use Χριστός Ἰησοῦς ("Christ Jesus"), where Χριστός precedes Ἰησοῦς, yet other times they use Ἰησοῦς Χριστός ("Jesus Christ"). What is the difference in meaning?
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There is no difference in meaning. The language allows both. It's just different emphasis, like if I talk about King Bob or Bob the King it is same guy but different ways of saying same thing.
I would say that swasheck's comment regarding emphasis is most likely. It probably should not need to be said, but many people are unaware that "Christ" is not a name, and they tend to treat it almost as a surname for Jesus. (I believe Wright gets around this misunderstanding by rendering Χριστός as "King," but I'm not fully satisfied with that expedient, as it loses its Hebrew roots.) The term is the Greek equivalent of the Hebrew meshiach (messiah), and while it has a special eschatological referent in the Hebrew Scriptures, it is used more generally to refer to anointed ones. The NT references to Jesus as Χριστός of course are intended to refer to the special eschatological messiah.
Given the above considerations, I would suggest that Χριστός Ἰησοῦς ("Christ Jesus") has the messiahship to the forefront: "the Messiah, Jesus," whereas Ἰησοῦς Χριστός ("Jesus Christ") would be more along the lines of "Jesus, who is the Messiah."
As said: the emphasis tends to be on the first: his humanity (Jesus), authority (Lord), messianity (Christ)
We would perhaps render the texts even more accurately (giving additional respect and emphasis) in our languages if we employed comma and article:
Iesous, the Christ, …
The Christ, Iesous, …
Our Lord Iesous, the Christ, …
Somewhat unfamiliar but nonetheless beneficial in some respect would be transliterating the Greek Name to remind of His disconnectedness with any images and paintings that exist supposedly (and assumed) to illustrate or even show Him, of whom there is no image.


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One of the more frustrating tasks in performing routine motorcycle maintenance and the pre-ride checklist is checking or adjusting the tire air pressure. Not that this is a difficult task, but for many of us simply getting to the darn valve stem around brake rotors, swingarms, side bags, fenders, the sprocket and chain, etc., is a challenge.
SoundRider offers a solution with these 84-degree valve stems. Most run $10. Build quality looks good, and fit and finish is great. A knurled cap is a nice touch. SoundRider says they fit the majority of bikes. Exceptions are listed on the website.
The valve stems do their job, taking much of the hassle out of checking your air pressure. They seal fine and look good. The SoundRider valve stems are simple, inexpensive products that make a big difference. If you consider checking your tire air pressure a chore, install a pair of these during your next tire change.


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Kim Nam-yoon, Nahm Sang-ah, Seo Hyun-jung, and Sung Kiwan make up the Korean indie rock band 3rd Line Butterfly.
What comes to your head when you hear the words 3rd Line Butterfly? Most likely, you'll think something associated with elegance and beauty. You're correct, but if you are unfamiliar with them, 3rd Line Butterfly is more than just a pretty name—they're a band that packs a punch and leaves you in its trance.
The South Korean rock quartet—consisting of lead vocalist and guitarist Nahm Sang-ah, guitarist Sung Kiwan, bassist Kim Nam-Yoon, and drummer Seo Hyun-jung—has been an indie music mainstay since their debut in 2000. They formed the year before when friends and musical collaborators Nahm and Sung were dismissed from their former bands and Sung called up Nahm to make some new music. Since then, 3rd Line Butterfly has released four full-length studio albums, an English-language album, and one EP and has toured North America as part of the Seoulsonic tour, which included performances at SXSW.
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I tried exporting and importing a calendar as an ics and pst file into zimbra. The problem is that all the categories that were in Outlook are lost. They are not converted to zimbra tags. When opening the .pst file and looking at the calendar on a different system, the categories are still there. How would I do this export/import correctly? I could not find an answer to this problem yet (searched the forums and tried google, hopefully I wasn't blind )
I can create tags in the webinterface and categories in outlook. They also sync without a problem. But the export/import is giving me a bit of a headache!
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Damian Lillard sat out practice Wednesday after tweaking his right ankle during Monday's game against the Raptors.
Kyle Lowry was outstanding during a 105-99 win over the Cavs in Game 4 on Monday, scoring 35 points with five rebounds, five assists, three steals and four 3-pointers.
Bismack Biyombo was terrific yet again during a win over the Cavs on Monday, finishing with five points, 14 rebounds, one assist and three blocks in 42 minutes.
DeMar DeRozan scored 32 points for the second straight win over the Cavs on Monday, adding three rebounds, three assists, one steal and two turnovers in 40 minutes.
Jonas Valanciunas did not play in Game 4 on Monday.
LeBron James couldn't carry his team to victory during a 105-99 loss to the Raptors in Game 4 on Monday, scoring 29 points with nine rebounds, six assists, two steals, one block and one 3-pointer in 46 minutes.
Richard Jefferson played all 12 fourth-quarter minutes and 15 total minutes on Monday against the Raptors, finishing with eight points, one assist and no turnovers.
Kevin Love did not play in the fourth quarter against the Raptors on Monday, finishing with 10 points, seven rebounds, three assists and two 3-pointers in 31 minutes.
Jonas Valanciunas (ankle) is active and available off the bench against the Cavs on Monday night.
Draymond Green will not be suspended for Game 4 on Tuesday.
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After the publicly announced arrests at Fort Myer on Sept. 26, the Army replaced the day care center's management team and found what the Army called "derogatory information" in the background of an unspecified number of other employees there.
The Army did not specify the derogatory information.
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Since you are blowing the fuse with the points closed, perhaps you should try installing new points and condensor. Sounds to me like the condensor is shot. A shot condensor sends the timing all over the place and the points aren't really controlling anything. The juice from the coil will just jump the open gap of the points. Bare
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According to the New York Post, Britney was banned from the Chateau Marmont hotel in 2007 after guests complained about her smearing a plate of food on her face in front of other diners.
It's old news by now, but still on the record. According to the New York Post the actor was found on the floor of the bathroom in Daniel in Manhattan with "cocaine all over his face."
Last year TMZ reported that the same day as the premiere of the new "Celebrity Rehab," that Dennis Rodman was participating in, he was escorted out of a restaurant called Waterfalls in the Atrium Hotel in California after having at least one vodka drink and exhibiting behavior that led customers to complain.
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According to TMZ.com, the singer downed one or two bottles of wine at Osteria Mozza in Los Angeles in March just a few hours before her and her boyfriend Matt Rutler were arrested for drunk driving. They supposedly returned to Mozza just days later for a repeat performance, but took a limo home.
According to the New York Post, when the actress bumped into her ex-husband Ron Perelman at The Waverly Inn a few years ago, she threw a glass of water in his face and "hissed at Chapman [his girlfriend]: 'I feel sorry for you that you have to [bleep] him tonight.'"
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Back in 2004, the New York Post reported that Love stopped outside a Wendy's, "Where she allegedly invited a bystander to kiss her breasts, then asked fans to take photographs."
According to the New York Daily News, in 2007 the Entourage actor was asked by the manager at Matsuhisa in Aspen never to return after being accommodated for a large party on a busy night and leaving a a DVD of the first year of Entourage as a tip for one of the waiters. It was said to have been hurled it at him as he left.
According to Bloomberg News, the golfer was arrested after having too much to drink and misbehaving at a Hooters in North Carolina.
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CNN cited a story in the print edition of that most trusted of sources, the National Enquirer, saying that while dining in a Vancouver restaurant, Reeves took off his shoes much to the dismay of other customers.
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According to the Associated Press, a jury awarded $40,000 in damages to a man after a man claimed the singer and his entourage beat him during a 2007 fight at a Waffle House in Georgia. The fight started at about 5 a.m. when the man had an exchange with a woman in Rock's party. Watch the surveillance video and see for yourself.


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I've finally completed and published the next article in my world-building series.
The topic this time is height fields, and specifically building up a base height field according your own design, as opposed to just generating a random one.
The next article, detailing my recipe for erosion in Wilbur, is already in the works. Hopefully it will appear quite soon.
The Cartography of Thorfinn Tait: World-building: Building Base Height Fields
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Terrain Layers
Now it's time to start on the terrain itself. Make three new layers at the bottom of the file, underneath Altitude Scaling. Name them Mountains, Hills, and Base Terrain, and place them in that order top to bottom. Create layer groups for each of these layers (Control/Command G), and name them Mountains, Hills and Base Terrain too.
Hit D to reset palette colours to black and white, then Filter / Render / Clouds in all three layers. For the mountains layer, optionally hold Alt/Option while clicking in the menu to render clouds; this will give higher contrast clouds.
Optionally, you can render the clouds at half size and scale them up, or at double size and scale them down. Each white cloud will become a peak in your final map, so in this way you can control how big or small the mountains will be. Your choice will depend on the scale of your image. For Calidar, I rendered clouds in a separate file that was double the dimensions of the main map, then scaled them down and copy-pasted the layer in.
For all three layers, Filter / Render / Difference Clouds, and repeat until you get a random texture to your liking. I'm partial to the valley-like channels you get with either one or three renders of difference clouds, so I tend to do just one step of difference clouds for hills and mountains, and either one or three for base terrain. Experiment and find something you like. Remember that at any stage you can also invert the clouds to get a different effect.
Add a levels adjustment layer (Layer / New Adjustment Layer / Levels, or click the icon in the Adjustments panel) above each of the three terrain layers. Right click on each level layer and select Create Clipping Mask (or Alt/Option click the layer) so that the levels only affect the layer immediately below. Then dial in the following settings:
Mountains: 0/1.40/188, Output Levels: 175/255
Hills: 0/1.80/195, Output Levels: 87/191
Base Terrain: 0/1.00/240, Output Levels: 1/104
Your file is now ready to go. Time to start shaping the terrain.
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I've been testing the appliance for a while and noticed that it behaves differently when deployed via vCenter as opposed to directly connected to an ESXi host with the vSphere Client.
vSphere Client to ESXi host:
The different options outlined in the Setup Guide are not present. Quoting from the guide none of these are shown:
"6. Select the deployment configuration for the appliance.
Trial. Select Trial setup if Zimbra Appliance is being deployed in a non- production lab environment.
Midsize. Select Midsize setup if Zimbra Appliance is being deployed in an environment with less than 500 users.
Large. Select Large setup if Zimbra Appliance is being deployed in an enviornment with up to 1000 users.
Click Next.
8. Select the IP address allocation scheme appropriate to your network configuration. For most Zimbra Appliance environments select Fixed. The IP addresses are manually configured on the Properties page that follows. No automatic allocation is performed.
Note: To automatically configure the appliance trial servers network configuration, select a destination network with DHCP services configured and running.
9. With the properties page open, configure the following details for Zimbra Appliance.
Configuration Password. Enter the password for the Virtual Appliance Management Infrastructure (VAMI). When you log into the Zimbra Appliance console, you enter this password.
Server Name. Enter the Zimbra Appliance hostname. This is the server name. For example, mail.company.com.
Administrative Account. Enter the name of the administrators account This account is automatically created on Zimbra Appliance during the install.
Admin Password. This is the password to log on to the Zimbra administration console and to log on to the administrators mailbox. The password must be at least 6 characters.
If you selected Fixed as the IP allocation policy, enter the network IP address
Click Next."
vSphere Client to vCenter:
The OVF deployment wizard asks for the configuration information above.
Also, the appliance seems to discard the fixed ip configuration during deployment and always reverts to DHCP.
I'm hoping that the next version of the appliance 7.0 is more robust because there are quite a few quirks/bugs with the current one.


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COLLEGE PARK, Md. (WUSA) -- A disaster hit Maryland's campus before Hurricane Sandy could. That's because head coach Randy Edsall announced Sunday that freshman quarterback Caleb Rowe is out for the season with an ACL injury. That leaves the Terps without an eligible quarterback on the roster.
Rowe is the fourth signal caller to go down for the Terps this season. CJ Brown, Perry Hills, and Devin Burns all were lost before last week's game against Boston College. Two sources tell Capital 9 Sports Blog that Rowe was injured in the fourth quarter during the play before he threw the game clinching interception.
This is a big blow for a young Maryland team that has proven the doubters, myself included, wrong with their play this season. They have overcome adversity so far, but it will be hard to bounce back from losing your last legit passer.
Edsall has announced that the team plans to switch to their two emergency quarterbacks, linebacker Shawn Petty and tight end Brian McMahon. Petty will start this Saturday against Georgia Tech.
The offense looked bad last week with the fourth string quarterback. Can't imagine it gets any better with a linebacker under center. The poor performance of the running game this season will need to improve for Maryland to have a chance.
Last week, I jokingly ended the blog asking if Stefon Diggs could throw. Now I am seriously asking, can he?


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HANCOCK, MI - The perfect chance to show your Finlandia University school spirit is coming soon!
Finlandia University students and alumni will kick off the university's annual Homecoming celebration on Valentine's Day, Sunday, February 14, 2010, with a bonfire at 8:00 p.m. at Finlandia Hall.
The theme of Homecoming 2010 is "Celebrity Spot, Catch 'em Looking Hot!" for which three special "dress-up" days have been designated.
Also scheduled throughout the week of February 14 are outdoor and indoor games, video games, a dance, and activities before and during men's and women's home basketball and hockey games. Homecoming 2010 tee shirts will be for sale.
All Finlandia University students, faculty, and staff, as well as Suomi College alumni and friends, are invited to join in the festivities.
Homecoming 2010 is sponsored by the university's Student Senate, in conjunction with Finlandia's Alumni Relations office. Visit www.finlandia.edu to view a complete schedule of Homecoming 2010 activities.
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Sydney, Australia (Sports Network) - Kevin Anderson and Bernard Tomic were
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I am known as the "trifle lady" at my church, so I am thrilled to have a new recipe to add to my line-up. I am making this today with sugar-free ingredients, and I am going to use white chocolate pudding mix instead of vanilla. I will report back tomorrow on how it went! :-)
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FORT MYERS, Fla. - Justin Morneau has arrived at spring training and the Minnesota Twins star says he is looking forward to putting the past two seasons behind him.
The team is coming off back-to-back last-place finishes in the American League Central. Morneau, who has battled concussions since 2010, said Friday that he was able to go through a healthy offseason workout regimen.
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NASA finds abundance of water on the moon
Newscast Media — NASA scientists recently discovered large amounts of water ice as the agency explored the moon using India's Chandrayaan-1 spacecraft. Scientists have detected ice deposits near the moon's north pole. NASA's Mini-SAR instrument, a lightweight, Synthetic Aperture Radar, found more than 40 small craters with water ice. The craters range in size from 1 to 9 miles (2 to15 km) in diameter. Although the total amount of ice depends on its thickness in each crater, it's estimated there could be at least 1.3 trillion pounds (600 million metric tons) of water ice.
The Mini-SAR has imaged many of the permanently shadowed regions that exist at both poles of the Moons. These dark areas are extremely cold and it has been hypothesized that volatile material, including water ice, could be present in quantity here. The main science object of the Mini-SAR experiment is to map and characterize any deposits that exist.
The estimated amount of water ice potentially present is comparable to the quantity estimated solely from the previous mission of Lunar Prospector's neutron data (several hundred million metric tons.) The variation in the estimates between Mini-SAR and the Lunar Prospector's neutron spectrometer is due to the fact that it only measures to depths of about one-half meter, so it would underestimate the total quantity of water ice present. At least some of the polar ice is mixed with lunar soil and thus, invisible to our radar.
"The emerging picture from the multiple measurements and resulting data of the instruments on lunar missions indicates that water creation, migration, deposition and retention are occurring on the moon," said Paul Spudis, principal investigator of the Mini-SAR experiment at the Lunar and Planetary Institute in Houston.
"The new discoveries show the moon is an even more interesting and attractive scientific, exploration and operational destination than people had previously thought."
"After analyzing the data, our science team determined a strong indication of water ice, a finding which will give future missions a new target to further explore and exploit," said Jason Crusan, program executive for the Mini-RF Program for NASA's Space Operations Mission Directorate in Washington.
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In vitro fertilization (IVF) is a process where sperm and an egg
joined together outside of the body to create an embryo. The embryo can then be inserted into a mother's uterus.
IVF is done to help a woman become pregnant when there is difficulty becoming pregnant naturally.
It is most often done when
is due to:
If you are planning to have IVF, your doctor will review a list of possible complications, which may include:
Factors that may increase the risk of not conceiving and carrying to term include:
Your doctor will likely do the following:
The male, if fertile, refrains from ejaculating for two or three days. He then collects semen through masturbation. Penile scar tissue or other conditions may block the natural release of sperm. If this is the case, a sperm aspiration from the testicles may be done. Sometimes, the man's sperm can be frozen ahead of time. If the male partner is unable to produce viable sperm, donor sperm may be used. If male sperm counts are low, the chance of successful fertilization may be improved by directly injecting the sperm into the egg. This is called intracytoplasmic sperm injection (ICSI).
An ultrasound-guided technique is often used to harvest the eggs. The ultrasound probe has a needle attached to the end. The instruments are inserted into the vagina.
The ultrasound uses sound waves to view the ovaries and the developed egg follicles in the ovaries.
The needle punctures the egg follicles.
fluid and eggs are removed through the needle. The fluid is inspected. It is immediately placed in a clean, nutritive culture material. The fluid will be kept in an incubator.
Between 50,000 and 100,000 of the most mobile, healthy sperm are chosen. They are mixed with the harvested eggs. Sometimes, ICSI may be done. It may help to increase the chances of fertilization. The culture dish is kept at normal body temperature inside an incubator for 2-3 days. During that time, sperm are expected to fertilize 60%-80% of the eggs. Once fertilized, early cell division begins and embryos develop.
A certain number of the embryos (usually 1-5) are placed into your uterus (womb). Fewer embryos decrease the chance of multiples (such as twins, triplets). The other embryos may be frozen. They may be saved for future IVF cycles. You may also choose to donate them to other infertile couples.
A catheter tube is inserted into the vagina. It will be threaded through the cervical canal and into the uterus. The embryos are then passed into the uterus. You may be positioned face down with your knees at your chest. A special table that tilts the uterus downward may also be used. These positions allow gravity to help keep the embryos in the uterus for implantation.
The egg harvesting can be uncomfortable. Anesthesia is given to decrease the discomfort.
Following egg harvesting, expect to rest at the center for a few hours before going home.
Following embryo transfer procedure:
It can be difficult to wait two weeks for the results. Even if pregnancy occurs, a
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If pregnancy did not occur, the next attempt should be at least one month later.
Call your doctor if any of the following occurs:
If you think you have an emergency, call for medical help right away.
American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
American Society for Reproductive Medicine
The Infertility Awareness Association of Canada
Women's Health Matters
In vitro fertilization.
American Society for Reproductive Medicine website. Available at:
http://www.asrm.org/topics/detail.aspx?id=1278. Accessed May 22, 2013.
American Society for Reproductive Medicine, Committee Opinion.
FetilSteril. 2008; 90(S3):187.
IVF, PDG, Embryology, and IUI.
International Council on Infertility Information Dissemination website. Available at:
http://www.inciid.org/index.php?page=ivf. Accessed May 22, 2013.
What is in vitro fertilization: Why to select it.
The National Infertility Association website. Available at:
http://www.resolve.org/family-building-options/what-is-in-vitro-fertilization-why-to-select-it.html. Accessed May 22, 2013.
What is assisted reproductive technology?
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention website. Available at:
http://www.cdc.gov/art/index.htm. Updated April 4, 2013. Accessed May 22, 2013.
2/4/2011 DynaMed's Systematic Literature Surveillance
https://dynamed.ebscohost.com/about/about-us: Rossi BV, Berry KF, Hornstein MD, Cramer DW, Ehrlich S, Missmer SA. Effect of alcohol consumption on in vitro fertilization. Obstet Gynecol. 2011;117(1):136-142.
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DH & I had a lot of trouble finding DD2's name, she wasn't named till she was about a day or so old. We pretty much took in a list and picked the one that we felt was 'right', and it was. Luckily it was my favourite
So I'm once again starting early with trying to find some names, and so far I've had no luck I've already gone through 2 baby names books (Cool names for babies & Beyond Ava & Aidan), and found nothing. The names we had on our previous list just don't seem to appeal to us as much anymore (more so not to DH than me). So we're basically starting a fresh.
Names I like... I prefer the uncommon, funky & cool names. I don't want unusual/creative spelling, nor do I want common and top 100 names. I'm a fan of celeb baby names, so long as they're not too out there (no Pilot Inspektor, Audio Science or Bluebell Madonna thanks). Unique is ok, so long as it's not too weird.
I would also like to steer clear of names starting with 'M' & 'N', as well as names that end with an ee/e/y/ie (more so if it's a boys name), and a/er/or/ar etc sound at the end. I just want a name that sounds different to the names of my kids. Though I'm happy for you to suggest them anyway.
My kids names are Neve, Marley & Mila (pronounced Me-La), so would love some names that you think would complete & compliment them well. One that sounds just as awesome as they do
Oh, and I'm after Girls names. Whatever you have, throw at me! Hopefully I'll get some I haven't heard of, nor considered.
Any & all help will be much appreciated
Thanks so much!
ps, apologies for the long post.
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