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Limited Tsukuyomi 2
I've seen Limited Tsukuyomi performed... It isnt anything like the normal Tsukuyomi. Not at all. He didn't even cast it with his eyes. Also, it's speculation to assume that Obito is using Tsukuyomi. When Madara cast his version of Limited Tsukuyomi on obito, to give him an example of the technique, he used the Demonic Statue of the Outer Path with a regular Sharingan, a non-Mangekyou Sharingan. We also now know the Demonic Statue of the Outer Path is the body of the Ten-Tails.
I think we should create a new page for Infinite Tsukuyomi and Limited Tsukuyomi using what we actually know now. In both depiction and usage of both techniques, they used a regular 3 Tomoe and not the actual Tsukuyomi at that. J/s. Skarrj (talk) 06:09, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
He used his eyes, notice the tomoe reflection on the crystal ball, also we know he has a MS. For Madara, what he did back there also appears to have been Limited Tsukuyomi, I wanted to make a topic on this long ago, thanks for a reminder. Also you are missing a little thing, MS techniques were seen performed with a regular Sharingan (Obito spamming Kamui seemingly with 3 tomoe, Susanoo etc.), not to mention it has been stated that the eye is nothing but a tool, the actual power resides within the user. Special chakra within an Uchiha's brain affects the optic nerve and changes the eye, thus even with an eye replaced, the mangekyou power should still be there. EDIT: but yes, both limited and infinite tsukuyomi should have a separate article from tsukuyomi, a little speculation, but I think LS and IS are yin-yang release versions of Tsukuyomi just as Blaze Release is seemingly yin-yang release version of Amaterasu--Elveonora (talk) 14:56, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
I still don't think what Madara did to Obito counts as a limited Tsukuyomi. What he did to Obito can very reasonably be achieved with Genjutsu: Sharingan, not to mention Madara did not have MS at that point, so in no way that would be a Tsukuyomi. And regarding the chakra, if it was as simple as putting the special chakra to the eyes, they could simply use someone who awakened the MS transplant eyes over and over with other Uchiha so a significant number of them had MS. Heck, just have one of them flow their chakra through an another Uchiha. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:42, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
If they don't feel loss of a close loved one, their brains produce not such chakra, thus transplanting a MS eye into a non-MS Uchiha would grant him those powers only for as long as the eyes are in his sockets. Also back on topic, do you have something against creating one/two articles for this matrix/inception version of Tsukuyomi?--Elveonora (talk) 18:36, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
Everyone thought it was pointless to create an Infinite Tsukuyomi article, and when the name for the Limited Tsukuyomi came along, everyone thought the same. I don't oppose the creation, I just find it unnecessary, if not a bit redundant, since we know that in Tsukuyomi, the user can control everything. Only thing that seems to change between regular, limited and infinite is range and potency. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:53, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
Not just that, Tsukuyomi is nothing but illusion while limited/infinite actually trap people in fake world--Elveonora (talk) 21:26, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
Do you really think that they were actually transported somewhere else? This is more like part 1 filler Kurama clan arc genjutsu than actual alternate reality. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:36, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
I thought you saw the movie, they were sucked into the crystal ball. What confirms the dimension being "real" in a sense is Naruto keeping AU Sakura father's hokage cloak for a brief moment and AU Sakura entering "the real world" in anime. That's what differentiate the two tsukuyomi, one is an illusion that's completely controlled by it's user, the latter is the same just thoughts actually becoming real, wouldn't be the first thing, Izanagi does something similar--Elveonora (talk) 21:41, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
All the show is the crystal ball glowing when they see the moon through it. Nothing indicates them being sucked into it. And when they break out of the genjutsu world, the ball is just shown breaking. When they come to it, they're simply staring, as expected of someone who's trapped in genjutsu. No indication of them being released from another dimension. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:06, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
Read the above again please, also the Kunai he threw at him broke the crystal ball, not to mention Obito wanted to steal Kurama from him within the illusion--Elveonora (talk) 22:19, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
Of course they'd see Obito trying to steal Kurama within the illusion, Obito cast the illusion. Pretty much the whole scene is seen from the perspective of those inside the genjutsu. Relatively speaking, the audience is in the genjutsu. Besides, there's no sign of broken crystal once they come out of it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:41, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
So you want to tell me Obito cast a genjutsu that made it possible for Naruto to escape from it? Yes, that's why he showed disappointment. And are you saying that the Obito within the genjutsu wasn't real? Then we interpret the movie quite differently--Elveonora (talk) 23:48, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
The Genjutsu used by Obito was a prototype, and Obito didn't have perfect control of it, so there was an escape for Naruto and Sakura, he didn't try to have them leave or purposly create a loop hole to get out, it was just because it was a prototype that it had such a weakness. And Obito was watching the entire genjutsu, he was in it but it was still a genjutsu. what does him being in it have to do with him not being real? Omni never said that Obito wasn't real, he just tried to steal the Kyubi using the genjutsu.... besides, Naruto and Sakura were also in the genjutsu and they were real, it probably used the same principles as Izanagi or creation of all things to create a genjutsu world that seemed extremely real and gives you your hearts desire while the jutsu is being cast.....--Deathmailrock (talk) 09:07, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
Madara limited Tsukuyomi
After re-reading chapter 606, it seems to me quite certain that what Madara did to Obito was that technique. He said that the same thing only has to be cast onto everyone using the moon--Elveonora (talk) 23:47, April 5, 2013 (UTC)
- Couldn't be. Tsukuyomi is a MS technique. Madara's MS was in Nagato's eye socket as Rinnegan. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:46, April 6, 2013 (UTC)
And I'm well aware of that, but the dialogue suggests as such. He says that with Ten-Tails (then Gedo's) power he can create the world as he wants it and only has to use moon as the medium instead of his eyes to put everyone into it.--Elveonora (talk) 13:40, April 6, 2013 (UTC)
I know we see him performing it only in the movie but if he mentions it in both anime and manga tie-ins, should'n he be listed as a user also for those media?--LeafShinobi (talk) 21:38, May 4, 2013 (UTC)
It's kinda complicated, road to ninja got that manga one shot (and manga is canon, right? lol) and also animation of it through the latest episode and road to sakura episode makes the movie seemingly anime-level canon, that brings question if Obito used the "Tsukuyomi" canonically or not.--Elveonora (talk) 10:11, May 5, 2013 (UTC)
- I wouldn't think a one shot would count as canon @-@ I say leave it as is with saying movie only. Also, anime adds a lot of things that weren't canon so I doubt that should even factor in lol 126.96.36.199 (talk) 11:55, May 5, 2013 (UTC)
separate article for limited/infinite tsukuyomi decision
The reasonings are as follows:
- If it were the same, then in order for Obito to use it in canon, which he of course plans to, it would have made him a user of Tsukuyomi, and as such the "movie only" label as is would be wrong. The likelihood of him having Kamui in both eyes but Tsukuyomi in one or each as well is there, but nothing suggests that.
- Besides similar name and moon thematic and being "illusions" their workings and effects differ quite enough. Also this one can be reflected onto a surface to project it everywhere.
- Tsukuyomi is an ordinary genjutsu (by definition) limited and infinite ones literary transport people into a new dimension
- "illusionary people" can cross the words as well, like AU Sakura did
- All in all, this technique and it's prototype version are likely to be related to yin-yang release rather than just yin release--Elveonora (talk) 20:30, August 16, 2013 (UTC)
- I agree with Elve here on all but the last part, but only because that's speculation; not because I actually think he's wrong. I've always thought Mugen Tsukuyomi deserved its own article, just in the same manner that Wind Release: Rasengan and Wind Release: Rasenshuriken need their own. Sure, MT is a vastly more powerful version of the original, but it clearly has some noticeable differences from the original, and its been named. ~ Ten Tailed Fox 20:34, August 16, 2013 (UTC)
- Obito isn't the only one who is apart of the plan. Madara was suppose to be revived for the plan as well and there is nothing saying he couldn't just use Tsukiyomi (I know I'm dodging the question but it's the only thing I have right now)
- We've never seen anyone use a genjutsu by reflecting it off a surface so we don't know if one could or could not.
- It's not transporting people into a new dimension. They're using it to put people into an illusionary world. It's basically like having everyone hypnotized forever.
- Is AU Sakura suppose to be the one from Road to Ninja? If so, she already knew it was fake and I guess that allowed her to do so? I haven't seen the movie so this is just me guessing
- Is there anything pointing to it being yin-yang release right now? If not then we don't know until they use it.
- While I don't oppose making a new article (I mean, we have tons of articles for elemental skills that are just upgrades) I wanted to point out some problems with what you said. Joshbl56 20:40, August 16, 2013 (UTC)
@TTF, thank you for support. For the last point, it stems from genjutsu having been stated to be yin release and just messing one's brain, while the only known genjutsu which is "real" (Izanagi) is yin-yang instead. @Josh, watch the movie first :)--Elveonora (talk) 20:54, August 16, 2013 (UTC)
- I would like us to see MT in action before actually making an article for it. I fully expect that Obito or Madara will in fact succeed in casting it at some point, with Naruto leading everyone in managing to break it, in a very cliched and formulaic manner. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:54, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
- But we have already seen Limited Tsukuyomi in action, and it is very different from the normal Tsukuyomi. And we know that Infinite Tsukuyomi is Limited Tsukuyomi, but in a much greater scale, and with the user having complete control of the "new world". I don't get why Odama Rasengan can have its own article, while Limited & Infinite Tsukuyomi can't. Patsoumas1995 (talk) 19:02, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
- We don't know enough about Infinite, but can't Limited have a page, since we know how it functions? At least that would separate the non-canon movie material from the canon technique page and make it so Obito isn't listed as a Tsukuyomi user.--BeyondRed (talk) 19:17, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
- Heck, I don't think that even Madara & Sasuke should be listed as users, since they've never used it. Patsoumas1995 (talk) 22:57, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
- Point of Clarification: Both of them are listed because as per the requirement of Susanoo, both Amatesaru and Tsukuyomi have to be unlocked. So even if we haven't seen them use it, they both have to have it to use Susanoo.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 23:26, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah I know... even though Sasuke said later that one has to unlock the ability of each eye, which for Sasuke is Amaterasu & Enton: Kagutsuchi... But let's not get into that again, and let's wait for a new databook to clear things up. Still, I don't understand why we have 2 seperate articles, for example, Rasengan & Odama Rasengan, while we have Tsukuyomi, Limited Tsukuyomi, and Infinite Tsukuyomi in the same article, while we have seen the first 2, and we know almost exactly what the 3rd one does. Patsoumas1995 (talk) 19:13, September 2, 2013 (UTC)
- Point of Clarification: Both of them are listed because as per the requirement of Susanoo, both Amatesaru and Tsukuyomi have to be unlocked. So even if we haven't seen them use it, they both have to have it to use Susanoo.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 23:26, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
- Heck, I don't think that even Madara & Sasuke should be listed as users, since they've never used it. Patsoumas1995 (talk) 22:57, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
- We don't know enough about Infinite, but can't Limited have a page, since we know how it functions? At least that would separate the non-canon movie material from the canon technique page and make it so Obito isn't listed as a Tsukuyomi user.--BeyondRed (talk) 19:17, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
I believe we should remove Obito as a movie-only user of Tsukuyomi tho. There's no evidence for or against it and limited/infinite tsukuyomi having enough in common. And if they do, that would mean that Obito is a canonical user of Tsukuyomi as well, since pulling off Moon Eye Plan wouldn't be possible otherwise, unless he plants to use eyes of someone else. Not to mention we don't even know if limited/infinite tsukuyomi requires Mangekyou Sharingan or can be done with 3 tomoe for example.--Elveonora (talk) 11:03, September 2, 2013 (UTC)
Now it was revealed how the the infinite Tsukuyomi will be cast, I think we should re-discuss if create an article for it Adept-eX (talk) 13:01, September 11, 2013 (UTC)
Not to mention it would appear the user will be the tree itself--Elveonora (talk) 20:59, September 11, 2013 (UTC)
Mugen Tsukuyomi
According to what Madara said in the related chapter and this week's episode, his tabula rasa Genjutsu is in fact Mugen Tsukuyomi. I suggest that we create a jutsu article for it, too. Or was is already decided not to do that? Seelentau 愛議 12:56, January 23, 2014 (UTC)
- Told them the same thing, shrugs.--Elveonora (talk) 21:19, January 24, 2014 (UTC)
- Guys... srsly guys... opinions pls. Seelentau 愛議 09:14, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
- Some of it was touched on in the discussion below, but I do think it warrants Mugen Tsukuyomi having it's own article. —「SaiST」 10:31, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
- Guys... srsly guys... opinions pls. Seelentau 愛議 09:14, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
"While connected to the degraded body of Shinju, using its power, grandpa Madara could temporarily make himself appear hot again" And yes, Mugen Tsukuyomi finally needs its own article, fixing a few misunderstandings:
- It ain't a Mangekyou Sharingan technique. Obito was meant to cast it, yet his only technique is Kamui (so we either consider Obito a canonical Tsukuyomi user or it isn't related to MS's Tsukuyomi besides the name at all) The user doesn't actually use his own eyes to cast the world-scale version, the Shinju copy does once it blooms and its eye is "Sharinnegan" so if we classify it as doujutsu, then both Sharingan and Rinnegan or we make an article/redirect for the Shinju's eye.
- So if you want to be technical, it's a Tailed Beast Skill.
- It's not an ordinary genjutsu, those trapped aren't under its control, but inside of it.
- It's actually possible to die within.
Should be all--Elveonora (talk) 11:09, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
Are we going to have one for the Limited Tsukuyomi as well, or is it going to be a sub-section in the Infinite Tsukuyomi article? I rather it be a sub-section. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:27, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
About the Tsukuyomi & Mugen Tsukuyomi
Why does it say that Obito will project his Mangekyou Sharingan to the moon to use it, while he only says he will project his eye, and we actually see Juubi's eye in the moon (and this was what was going to be projected, had the flower bloomed, and it was also technically his eye as well when he was the jinchuriki)?
And also, why is Sasuke stated to have a weaker Tsukuyomi when we don't have any proof that he ever used it? (Not saying why he is listed as a user) Patsoumas1995 (talk) 18:36, January 24, 2014 (UTC)
- Tobi said he would project his eye (we know it has to be a Mangekyo because only a Mangekyo can use Tsukuyomi) from the moon. Because being the Ten-Tails' jinchuriki makes the flower eye his eye, it stands to reason that he can active his Sharingan instead of the Ten-Tails' Rinnesharigan and do the Infinite Tsukuyomi.
- And Danzo has said that Sasuke's Tsukuyomi is weaker than Itachi's.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 18:47, January 24, 2014 (UTC)
- But what we actually through Obito's & Madara's tales is the Juubi's eye projected in the moon, not a Mangekyou Sharingan. Even the crystal ball that casts the Limited Tsukuyomi uses the Juubi's eye, not any Mangekyou Sharingan.
- As for Danzo's comment, I recall him saying that his genjutsu is inferior to Itachi's, not word about the Tsukuyomi. Do you have the line? Patsoumas1995 (talk) 02:05, January 25, 2014 (UTC)
- Root of the problem lies with many thinking of Mugen Tsukuyomi as simply a "Tsukuyomi being cast upon the moon"—it isn't.
- And you're correct about Danzō's comment. Too many take it as confirmation of Sasuke's possession of Tsukuyomi because they can't see the point of Danzō comparing Sasuke's Genjutsu to it otherwise. Hint: Genjutsu castin', Mangekyō Sharingan wielding siblings that share another power in Amaterasu, which was commented on just earlier in the battle. Nowhere is it stated in the raw text that Sasuke used Tsukuyomi.
- But the primary reason most here generally presume that Sasuke wields Tsukuyomi is due to the fact that it is described as one of the catalyst techniques for Susanoō in the 3rd Databook. Problems with that are not only the fact that the entire description was based around Itachi's example of the technique, but also the contradictory evidence brought about by the armament of Sasuke's own Susanoō, and most importantly, the confirmed dōryoku he's used to conjure it. He claimed that Susanoō was the third power to come about upon awakening the powers of both Mangekyō Sharingan, of which Blaze Release: Kagutsuchi was recognized among them... Doesn't leave room for the unconfirmed Tsukuyomi, yet the claims of his possession of the technique persist.
- Of course, this would also naturally extend criticism to the presumptions concerning Madara's possession of both Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu. The whole situation works rather contrary to how this wiki generally handles speculative matters when scrutinized against evidence from the manga. —「SaiST」 13:05, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
Chapter 413 page 9, any more nonsense?--Elveonora (talk) 16:39, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
- Were it such a simple matter of making this conclusion based on the monotone/inverted color scheme of the illusion, and it's side-effects, this wouldn't be such a long-running, and heavily disputed topic, Elveonora. The aforementioned colors do not mean it's Tsukuyomi, nor does the physical feedback Sasuke suffered immediately afterwards; as we've also witnessed him similarly clasping his face after successfully knocking out C with the Genjutsu he cast at the Kage Summit in Chapter 462—with his regular ol' Sharingan. As I've asked you before during a similar exchange we had at the Naruto Answers wiki: If a potent enough "lesser" Genjutsu can induce such a reaction, why wouldn't another being bolstered by the power of the strenuous Mangekyō Sharingan?
- Instead of trying to dismiss the claim as "nonsense"—an attitude that has all but collectively stifled any proper discussion that's been held on the matter here in the past—perhaps your time could be better spent trying to solve the debacle of where Tsukuyomi fits within Sasuke's repertoire of three ocular powers, when three have already been identified to us.
- Regressing back to Mugen Tsukuyomi: Seelentau's preceding topic should also be considered here. —「SaiST」 17:30, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
- It's true that he was seen holding his eye once after using a Genjutsu: Sharingan. I wasn't basing my conclusion on the color scheme but him switching to Mangekyou Sharingan to cast the illusion on Killer B. Let's say it's 50/50 he did or didn't use Tsukuyomi there, but having done so just for the show is unlikely.
Why do you consider Blaze Release a separate Mangekyou power? For all we know it's just an extension of Amaterasu. Also Danzo's comment is important, regular genjutsu affects 5 senses, yet he noted Sasuke's can't alter perception of time (which is outside of basic 5 senses) unlike Itachi's, meaning it's strongly suggested it was Tsukuyomi, otherwise there wouldn't have been a need to draw such a comparison. And yes, Seelentau's topic above is sadly ignored. Also I'm with the OP on this one, there's no evidence that Infinite Tsukuyomi is a Mangekyou technique, quite the contrary. Why do people assume it has more to do with Tsukuyomi besides the name is beyond me--Elveonora (talk) 20:38, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
- The Mangekyō Sharingan can still be used to cast more powerful types of Genjutsu of the "normal" variety(as "normal" as Genjutsu from a Mangekyō Sharingan can be, anyways), and isn't limited to casting the ultimate, specialized types of Genjtusu like Tsukuyomi, and Kotoamatsukami. So, you're absolutely correct, it wasn't just for show.
- Kagutsuchi may be somewhat dependent upon Amaterasu(until Susanoo is awakened, anyways), being the Shape Transformation to the latter's Nature Transformation, but is recognized as another ocular power and designated to the opposing eye. Upon discovering the ability in Chapter 415, Sasuke wonders "is this the dōryoku of my Mangekyō Sharingan". The chapter in which Sasuke reveals his third ocular power, Susanoo, C earlier lays out the initial two abilities of Sasuke's Mangekyō Sharingan bare for the readers. Danzō later seals the deal by confirming that Sasuke's Genjutsu lacks the trait that had defined Tsukuyomi: it's ability to alter the recipient's sense of time. Without that, there's nothing to differentiate it's effects from any other powerful Sharingan Genjutsu. Just as Kotoamatsukami is intended to essentially brainwash those on the receiving end, Tsukuyomi is intended to instantaneously effect those who fall victim to it by dishing out a substantial amount of time's worth of mental/spiritual damage in a minuscule moment... And as I mentioned before, they're Genjutsu castin', Mangekyō Sharingan wielding siblings, which had their other, shared ocular power brought up immediately beforehand. There's plenty good reason for the comparison to be drawn, and there's nothing being inferred about Sasuke using Tsukuyomi in the raw text.
- The perception of Mugen Tsukuyomi as being some kind of widespread "Super Tsukuyomi" is deeply ingrained in the minds of many readers. It's clear now, though, that it is named in that manner due to Tsukuyomi's literal meaning, and the relationship it has with it's method of delivery. —「SaiST」 23:25, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
It's impossible for Sasuke to have used Tsukuyomi on Killer Bee, since Tsukuyomi can't be broken unless the victim has a Sharingan & it's a blood relative with the user. Plus, isn't the fact that it alters the user's sense of time what makes Tsukuyomi special? It's like saying that someone used Amaterasu, but the flames weren't black & so powerful. As for Enton: Kagutsuki, Sasuke uses it with a different eye, not with the same eye he uses for Amaterasu. It's not an extension of Amaterasu. Patsoumas1995 (talk) 01:43, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
Wow, there's some stuff here that's plain false. We KNOW Sasuke has and has used Tsukuyomi. Hell, that was years ago, and I'm certain we've hammered this away on the wiki since then. Sasuke used Tsukuyomi against B. The monochromo color scheme is something particular to Tsukuyomi's art style when it's used. Further, Danzo's comparison makes it even more solid. Danzo didn't just haphazardly bring up Itachi's Tsukuyomi in comparison to Sasuke's ordinary genjutsu. For starters, that would make no sense in terms of how manga writers go about comparing powers between characters, much less in this manga. Secondly, Danzo specifically mentions that Sasuke's technique lacked what Itachi could do with Tsukuyomi, namely controlling the victim's perception of time in the illusion, something only done in Tsukuyomi. But the nail in the coffin is Susanoo. The Third Databook (and Itachi himself) state that Susanoo can only beused by one who has awoken both Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi, and only then would Susanoo awaken. As for Infinite Tsukuyomi, clearly the name is at least partly in reference to how the technique is to be cast. But as I recall, the technique is supposed to lock everyone into an unending genjutsu, which one can clearly associate with a mastered Tsukuyomi's time-dilating effect. Skitts (talk) 01:57, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
- I really don't understand why so many cannot see the point of Danzō's comparison, given Sasuke and Itachi's relationship, and similar dōryoku that were being mentioned in the same vein in that, and the preceding chapter. Tsukuyomi's not being brought up "haphazardly", it stands at the height of Sharingan Genjutsu, which Sasuke just used through his own Mangekyō Sharingan. There's no point lacking in that comparison beyond that of sizing up two Tsukuyomi. That's not the sole interpretation there, nor is it any more likely; especially given the sum of evidence we have against Sasuke's use of Tsukuyomi.
- The 3rd Databook's description of what is required, and results from Susanoō's acquisition, was based upon Itachi's lone example of the technique. Itachi himself only relays his personal experience upon first revealing Susanoo to us, claiming that this was the last power that awakened in his eyes, after Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu. Sasuke's similar declaration in Chapter 464 describes it in a much more general, and simple matter: awakening the powers of both Mangekyō Sharingan. Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu are described as representing something of a Ying & Yang relationship in Susanoō's conjuration. Could a similar relationship not be present in Sasuke's Nature, and Shape Transformation of Blaze Release?
- Furthermore, you'd have to ascertain what exactly makes Tsukuyomi distinct, in terms of it's effects, without it's ability to alter the recipient's sense of time—beyond it's inconsistent, inverted/monochrome aesthetic. Before that particular Chapter, there was no question that this ability was what distinguished Tsukuyomi among the other types of powerful Sharingan Genjutsu. Being cast from the Mangekyō Sharingan? We've seen it used to cast more powerful, but normal Genjutsu. Instant, impossible-to-dispel effects? That's what it's "time-dilating" effect has been attributed to.
- And finally, you have to address the huge, neon-colored elephant in the room known as Blaze Release: Kagutsuchi. As I mentioned earlier in this discussion, it has been recognized as one of Sasuke's dōryoku, by himself and C, designated to the eye opposing Amaterasu's, and used QUITE prominently since. Sasuke himself claims to have only three ocular powers, and it has been two hundred and sixty chapters since Sasuke awoke his Mangekyō Sharingan with no direct claims of him possessing an ability as prominent as Tsukuyomi; you can't just blame that on him sucking at it. Even after acquiring the Eien no Mangekyō Sharingan—Itachi's eyes—we are given something of an exposition of Itachi and Sasuke's respective dōryoku during their bout against Kabuto in Chapter 585, with Sasuke using the standard Genjutsu: Sharingan in contrast with Itachi's Tsukuyomi. If Kishimoto could have them cast Amaterasu in unison just beforehand, why not Tsukuyomi?
- In the beginning, I thought it best not to push this here, as many of us were expecting another Databook much sooner. But with the years passing, and what we know of Sasuke's ocular powers, things have been gradually changing concerning this Tsukuyomi vs Kagutsuchi debate. I believe, with especially how often this wiki is referenced as this topic pops up in various forums, a fresh reevaluation should be taken on this entire matter using all the additional information that's been presented to us over the years. The fact of the matter is that Sasuke's "confirmed" possession of Tsukuyomi has, and always been established on a myriad of misconceptions, and presumptions; and rules concerning the techniques' efficacy were contorted to suit them. And more importantly, it's conflicting with what we are being told outright in the manga... That's kind of a problem. Apologies for the wall of text, but given how these discussions have played out in the past, I thought it best to be thorough. —「SaiST」 13:42, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
Amaterasu(sun)&Tsukuyomi(moon) are the eyes of Izanagi while Susanoo is the nose in the middle, kinda a trinity of Gods if you will. Doesn't make much sense for Sasuke to have first and third, skipping the second. Once and if we see a non-amaterasu&non-tsukuyomi user use Susanoo while having Kamui and Kotoamatsukami or whatever overpowered powers Kishi comes up with, you will have a point. Also Tsukuyomi can be used without the time altering aspect, viz Sasuke vs Itachi fight. Madara is a good candidate, we are yet to see Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi from him, so once and if we learn he can use Susanoo without them, the topic of Tsukuyomi removal from Sasuke may continue--Elveonora (talk) 17:47, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
- I just want it known I have paid absolutely no attention this this discussion. I will read it over and (hopefully) contribute later.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 19:28, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
- It is true that Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, and Susanoo are three of the most prominent, and referenced Shinto deities. I think it's quite fitting for the ocular powers named after the first two represent the apex of the Uchiha's combat specialties; Sharingan Genjutsu & Katon Ninjutsu. However, Kagutsuchi, their sibling, is the Shinto deity of fire, and flame-based abilities are often named after him throughout various anime, and manga.
- Also, what leads you to believe that the Tsukuyomi used on Sasuke during his fight with Itachi did not alter his sense of time, as it always did before? The panel of Zetsu's reaction shown in the middle of the illusion? That doesn't exactly infer that everything we were seeing was passing along in real-time on Zetsu's end. —「SaiST」 20:34, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
- ... That's it then, huh? -_- Are there really none among you that think the aforementioned exposition of Itachi and Sasuke's respective ocular powers, and the manner in which Kagutsuchi has been perceived in this community—from simply a "spiked disc", to all-encompassing, black flame-bending catalyst(which also makes it more than a bit redundant with the way Blaze Release is defined here... But I'm going to leave that be for now)— give us enough merit for reevaluating this? —「SaiST」 15:42, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
- I'm sorry I said I was going to come back to this but I didn't (that work life is hard yo) but what does Kagutsuchi have to do with this discussion?--TheUltimate3 (talk) 12:35, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
- If I had to guess (and guessing other people's meanings is kind of my thing) I think SaiST is trying to say that the chapter in questions suggests that instead of having Tsukuyomi as his second Mangekyō ability, Sasuke has Blaze Release. And that, as Elveonora brought up the naming of the abilities as reasoning for it not making sense that Sasuke could lack Tsukuyomi but still achieve Susanoo, SaiST countered with Kagutsuchi (a part of Blaze Release) being another Shinto deity of the same general group.--Soul reaper (talk) 12:52, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
- I'm sorry I said I was going to come back to this but I didn't (that work life is hard yo) but what does Kagutsuchi have to do with this discussion?--TheUltimate3 (talk) 12:35, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
- ... That's it then, huh? -_- Are there really none among you that think the aforementioned exposition of Itachi and Sasuke's respective ocular powers, and the manner in which Kagutsuchi has been perceived in this community—from simply a "spiked disc", to all-encompassing, black flame-bending catalyst(which also makes it more than a bit redundant with the way Blaze Release is defined here... But I'm going to leave that be for now)— give us enough merit for reevaluating this? —「SaiST」 15:42, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
Sigh, Tsukuyomi vs Blaze Release is one of the most commonly debated topics regarding Sasuke's eyes. It's true we didn't see/hear him utter "Tsukuyomi!!!" ever, but the genjutsu he used against Killer B is the best candidate for it, effect-wise, visually and contextually. Also Danzo's remark that everyone interprets differently for which wouldn't have been a need comparing an ordinary genjutsu to Tsukuyomi, it doesn't contextually make sense, since ordinary genjutsu can't alter perception/flow of time. Would be like comparing clitoris with penis, the former isn't supposed to be bigger... if it is, both parties have a problem lol. Anyway, that's the point I guess... Amaterasu&Tsukuyomi&Susanoo are a Trinity, take the first two as ingredients for the third... the recipe wouldn't work otherwise, but again, Sasuke's cooking skills might not be exemplary, considering he makes his own set of rules when it comes to the meal called plot.
Also one of my points I believe was clear enough, once and if we see Madara use a Mangekyou technique outside the trinity (like Kamui, Kotoamatsukami etc.) despite having Susanoo, he and Sasuke will become the #1 candidates for neutering for trolling us all along--Elveonora (talk) 14:43, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
- Madara finally showcasing the initial two ocular powers of his Mangekyō Sharingan would certainly help, but I'm starting to worry that Kishimoto's going to let that ship sail too with him becoming the Shinju's Jinchuuriki. Doesn't mean it won't happen, but I'm doubtful. My biggest fear is that deductive reasoning is put to the wayside and the perception of Sasuke having a watered down Tsukuyomi continues until the manga's long since concluded, and nobody longer cares even if Kishimoto gives the definitive answer they've all wanted. Same for the way Blaze Release is being defined.
- And you may not like it, Elveonora, but there is some sensible context in Danzō comparing Sasuke's Genjutsu to Tsukuyomi. :P It's like drawing a comparison between two sports cars, commending the driver for keeping up, yet at the same time denouncing it as it's being compared to a Ferrari Enzo that can hit 60 from a standstill in 3.4 seconds. Doesn't mean the sports car being compared to it must also be a any type of Ferrari... First used that example over two years ago. Man, this debate has been going on for too long. —「SaiST」 15:47, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
- Blaze Release and Amaterasu are about as different from the other just as each of Obito eye's Kamui are, yet they are apparently the same technique. Kinda fishy for Sasuke to have magical fire in right mangekyou and slightly more magical fire in his left and Susanoo at the same time.--Elveonora (talk) 16:17, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
I'll probably be repeating what someone else may already have said, but here is how I think stuff works, considering what we know, and how I'd list stuff if it were up to me and me alone: I no longer think that Susanoo absolutely requires Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi specifically, just having a jutsu in both eyes. That would mean that Susanoo should have more than those two as a parent, BR: Kagutsuchi would be added as a parent. However, I still believe that Sasuke's MS genjutsu against B counts as Tsukuyomi, per reasons already discussed ad nauseam. This would also mean that Madara would no longer be listed as using Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi, since we don't know his individual MS jutsu. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:27, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
- Well, it's good to see that some of the old heads here are still thinking on it. Now if I can just instill within you enough reasonable doubt that the binding Genjutsu used on B was Tsukuyomi... *mulls*
- Elveonora, Amaterasu and Kagutsuchi represent two cornerstones of chakra manipulation: Nature Transformation and Shape Transformation. One is creating the Nature Release, while the other is granting the user free reign over it. Those abilities are being made manifest through Sasuke's Susanoo as well, as it creates and manipulates black flames. While Obito and Kakashi's applicaiton of Kamui share traits(and the possibility of the only discrepancies present being due to the users, rather than the powers themselves), Amaterasu and Kagutsuchi have a much more distinct purpose. —「SaiST」 16:42, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
- Perish Satan! For this sheep is under my protection from your pesky influence. @Omni, you mean to say Sasuke has 4 Mangekyou techniques? Why would BR: Kagatsuchi be a parent tho? You agree to his possession of Tsukuyomi that makes one + Amaterasu second. That makes BR: Kagatsuchi fourth--Elveonora (talk) 17:13, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
- Lulz. But yes, if you recognize Blaze Release: Kagutsuchi as one of Sasuke's ocular powers along with the unconfirmed Tsukuyomi, you'd have to make sense of the three power limit Sasuke has set on us during the Kage Summit.
- As mentioned earlier, Sasuke says that Susanoo is his Mangekyō Sharingan's third power during the Kage Summit. So, one of them doesn't belong. —「SaiST」 17:46, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
Did he say that before or after first using Blaze Release?--Elveonora (talk) 18:07, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
After. Well after if you're of the opinion that Kagutsuchi was first utilized at the tail end of his fight with Killer B(I am~). Immediately after verifying that the ability to exert greater control over Amaterasu's flames was his right eye's ocular power, allusions began to be made about his acquisition of Susanoo. —「SaiST」 18:10, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
- What does any of this have to do with Tsukuyomi?--TheUltimate3 (talk) 19:10, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
- Apparently Sasuke stated himself to possess 3 Mangekyou powers. He has Susanoo and Amaterasu, so he either doesn't have Tsukuyomi or Blaze Release doesn't count as separate power.
- @SaiST, it seems he put out the flames using his right Mangekyou for sure, a while ago I removed that bit from Blaze Release article because apparently so did Itachi, meaning it isn't unique to Sasuke's right eye or is it? Shi* this is getting more and more confusing--Elveonora (talk) 19:16, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
- Touched on that in Blaze Release's Talk Page, on the topic Seelentau made concerning it's debut, and whether or not it's responsible for extinguishing the flames. If we could take our lil' sub-discussion concerning that there, I'd appreciate it.
- TheUltimate3, whenever the topic of Sasuke's possession of Tsukuyomi comes up, there are two inevitable paths the discussion will take: What defines Tsukuyomi beyond it's monochrome aesthetic, and what place Kagutsuchi has amongst Sasuke's 3 ocular powers. —「SaiST」 19:51, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
If Sasuke only have 3 dojutsu powers within his eye (when did he mention that?) then Blaze Release has to be an extention of Amaterasu because the databook (read: Naruto Holy Book) stated that to use Susanoo, the person must have Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 20:04, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
- Yep, based on Itachi's lone example of the technique. Thought you said you were going to review the discussion. ;) And Susanoo was said to be his third power in Chapter 464.
- Of course, this doesn't invalidate what the Databook says, but forces us to look at it within the context of the material it covered at the time. And while tacking on Kagutsuchi as Amaterasu's "extension" would be mighty convenient, there's the fact that it's been identified as a distinct ocular power, and cast from the opposing eye... And again, two hundred and sixty one(two, by tomorrow) chapters without a single mention of Tsukuyomi. —「SaiST」 20:16, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
- I've mentioned it two or three times already though: 464... Unless you're looking for a link to an actual online reader, which I'm not even sure is allowed here. Here's a few translations though:
- "This is a power that only one with two awakened Mangekyou can achieve... // The third power...... "Susanoo".". -cnet
- "A power that only someone who's awakened the Mangekyou Sharingan in both eyes can wield... The third, and final ability, Susanoo!" -hisshouburaiken
- "A power that only those who have awakened the Mangekyo in both eyes can achieve... The third power... The Susano'o" -Viz
- There's one more out there, from SleepyFans I believe, with the the infamous "double Mangekyou" line. —「SaiST」 22:24, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
The VIZ translation will do, thank you. I think you are giving it a context of your own liking. He said that Susanoo needs two powers with it being the third, not that he has just three.--Elveonora (talk) 22:28, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
- The generality of the statement and Susanoo being the third pretty much infers that much, Elveonora. Were the author trying to leave some ambiguity with the number of techniques he was trying to portray from Sasuke's end, he could have simply had him say that Susanoo was the "last" power for those that awakened the powers of both Mangekyō Sharingan. —「SaiST」 22:35, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
Databook 3 clearly states that the awakening of Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu are the only things that can awaken Susanoo. Kishimoto himself made Databook 3 so it is fact, what you all are failing to see is that NOWHERE was it stated that an individual has a set amount of Mangekyo techniques they can learn/wield. Sasuke has shown 2 very different Genjutsu with his mangekyo going by the image of the techniques alone. One was directly compared to Tsukuyomi by Danzo, Danzo said "Itachi's Tsukuyomi was better IMO SUCKA" lol.. he was not comparing one separate Genjutsu to another, but Sasuke's Tsukuyomi to Itachi's Tsukuyomi. Sasuke has more than one Genjutsu, he just happens to suck at Tsukuyomi so he relies on the other Genjutsu now. Madara himself has shown the flame control of Amaterasu, putting it out when Sasuke hit him with it. Maybe Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi are the only 2 Mangekyo techniques that every Mangekyo user can awaken, but it is just simply rare, since Obito who was taught everything by Madara, said it was rare to awaken Susanoo.. meaning it was rare to have Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu at the same time. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 11:06, March 18, 2014 (UTC)
- The 3rd Databook's description of Susanoo, it's armament, and prerequisites was based on Itachi's example of the technique. Which has already been pointed out earlier.
- Danzō did not refer to Sasuke's Genjutsu as Tsukuyomi in the raw text, and there's a point in comparing them besides sizing up two Tsukuyomi. Also pointed out earlier.
- Madara did not "control" the flames from Sasuke's Amaterasu, he absorbed them, as was pointed out in that same chapter.
- Or perhaps Susanoo is just that rare because it requires a distinct ocular power in each eye, as Itachi and Sasuke have both demonstrated. Obito and Shisui did not follow that trend, and could have been examples of the more common result of Uchiha that awakened the Mangekyō Sharingan. —「SaiST」 21:55, March 21, 2014 (UTC)
Right, gonna throw my two cent in here.
Itachi - Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi and Susanoo
Sasuke - Amaterasu, Rubbish Tsukuyomi?, BR Kagutsuchi and Susanoo
Obito - Kamui (First Party) and Kamui (Third Party)
Shisui - Kotoamatsukami (Both Eyes seemingly)
Madara - Tsukuyomi, Susanoo
Now there's been a lot of talk about who uses what eye for what and how many powers, but I'm simply gonna focus on some other thoughts.
1. Obito and Shisui have both eyes accounted for, but both seemingly only possess one technique, admittedly Obito's is two variants, but since Kamui doesn't cover a single deity, I'm gonna consider the name influence as to be why it's a multiform technique.
2. Shisui's eyes seemingly use the exact same technique with no variation and given all the **** people talk about him, I'm gonna go ahead and say that Tsukuyomi's status as top dog of Uchiha Genjutsu is kinda debatable.
3. Madara must have Tsukuyomi. It is not up for debate. As he had already formulated his plan before Obito even awakened his Mangekyou. Unless he was counting on having an Uchiha on hand who had Tsukuyomi and would co-operate with him, he must have some way to use it himself in order to carry out his plan. If he doesn't, then quite frankly Kishi is a god damned moron and really didn't think this through.
4. Before he died, Itachi seemingly imbued Sasuke's eyes with the ability to use Amaterasu. Who is to say that the powers Sasuke's eyes possess naturally and the ones he was referring to aren't Kagutsuchi, Tsukuyomi and Susanoo? And that his use of Amaterasu wasn't just a result of Itachi's handiwork or Sasuke's misinterpretation of his own powers? As the only times he used it without the Transcription Seal were against Bee and A and both times he seemingly controlled the flames, extinguishing them on Bee and Shaping them against A.
Personally, I think Sasuke is just the Public Bicycle of Uchiha powers and we're looking too much into this particular part, but I'll present this information for anyone still looking to debate this. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 00:23, March 22, 2014 (UTC)
For 3. Infinite Tsukuyomi has nothing to do with Mangekyou's Tsukuyomi besides the name. Obito doesn't even have Tsukuyomi, just Kamui and if Naruto didn't defeat him, he would have succeeded casting it, completing the moon eye plan himself.--Elveonora (talk) 14:21, March 22, 2014 (UTC)
- Additionally, it's been confirmed that the Genjutsu Madara cast on Obito, which was cast from a regular ol' spare Sharingan, was indeed Mugen Tsukuyomi. It is named as such due to the method of delivery, not because it is some kind of amplified Tsukuyomi.
- Concerning #4: The Amaterasu Itachi imbued into Sasuke's left eye was Tensha Fuuin: Amaterasu, a fuuinjutsu that was released once the specific conditions were met. Sasuke's ability to cast Amaterasu since awakening his own Mangekyō Sharingan has only ever been attributed to his own ocular power. His and Itachi's shared use of it has also been linked to their sibling relationship; Sasuke's possession of it was mentioned as something that should be expected of Itachi's younger brother. This was after Sasuke used Amaterasu on Danzō, Kagutsuchi wasn't used anytime during what we could see of that battle.
- And #1: Obito doesn't really have two variants of the same ocular power. Ever since Kakashi has come to the realization that his Kamui and the Obito's Jikuukan Idou were the same ability, he's been using it in similar ways. The only discrepancy that currently lies between them is Obito's ability to phase, and Kakashi's long-range application. These discrepancies may be present due to the users, and how they are able to make use of this same power, rather than the eyes themselves... But it should be noted that Kakashi can teleport his entire body to and from the other dimensional space, and that Obito had to have some way of negating, from a distance, the Kamui Kakashi tried to use to decapitate the Gedou Mazou... Boy, this is getting a lil' off-topic. —「SaiST」 02:29, March 23, 2014 (UTC)
Noticed the lil' revert war going on over Sasuke's usage. I think everyone's time would be better spent talking' it out here. ;) —「SaiST」 18:23, May 4, 2014 (UTC)
Sasuke's Counter
Should there be a mention of Sasuke dispelling this genjutsu with his sharingan? Or was that only made possible because Itachi had allowed him to do so? DazzlingEmerald (talk) 02:08, October 1, 2015 (UTC)


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Both are two-year lettermen that have excelled offensively and defensively. Nolte, the tight end when he isn't lined up in the backfield, had five receptions for 103 yards and three touchdowns as a junior.
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Coming off an excellent sophomore season is center Derek Yocke (5-7, 200). When he needs spelled, Siebieda can assume the ball-snapping duties. Also listed at center is freshman Brent Blazier (5-7, 200).
Completing the list of offensive linemen are sophomore Peter Hartzell (5-11, 200) and freshmen Isaac Calvert (5-9, 175), Alex's twin brother; Dalton DeLong (5-8, 170) and Lucas Herrick (5-8, 195).
Young also will do some mixing and matching with the defense as several players can line up at different positions.
Nolte, Schwarz, Tankovits, Knecht and DeLong are among the ends. The tackles list includes Siebieda, Hartzell, Ernest, Zane, Alex Calvert, Schubert, Herrick, McCord and Blazier.
John, credited with 47 tackles, joins Henry as the starters at outside linebacker, supported by Harto, Gruber, Nixon and Jeff Gwynn.
Returning at inside linebacker are Naumann and Gary Gwynn, the latter returning from knee surgery.
Before being injured, Gwynn had 96 tackles, tied with the graduated Gompers for second-best among Maroon Knights defenders. Others that could line up as linebackers are Yocke, Chappelear and Isaac Calvert.
The secondary will include Michael Pleva, Bakaitis, Burch, Wallace, Duplaga, Keane, Kahle, Cottrell, Campbell, Angalich and Matt Pleva.
With only 39 players on the roster, 13 being freshmen, Young remains concerned about the numbers game.
''Injuries are going to be a factor. Hopefully, we don't have them,'' Young said. ''If we get some people hurt, the hope is nobody will miss any significant time."
Central's schedule includes several newcomers as Harrison Central, Magnolia, Mingo Central and two Pittsburgh city schools, Westinghouse and Allderdice, were picked up as replacements for Bellaire, Edison, Bridgeport, Steubenville Catholic Central and Pittsburgh Oliver.
The Huskies from Harrison Central will serve as the Maroon Knights' opening opponent Friday night at Wheeling Island Stadium.
''Harrison always has a talented team and Justin Kropka does an outstanding job of coaching them,'' Young said. ''The entire first part of our schedule will be a big factor as to the outcome of our season.''
After the opener, Madonna, Westinghouse, Linsly and Magnolia follow to wrap up the first half of season.
''Playing smart and getting out of the gate quickly will be important. We'll have a lot of people in new positions that have yet to be challenged. But when I look at our attitude and our team chemistry, I have great faith and confidence in them to get the job done,'' he concluded.
Young's highly capable coaching staff includes offensive coordinator Jason Rine, defensive coordinator Jamie Bordas, Jim Wolfe, Jimbo Wodusky, Felix Bruno, Ed Anderson, Shannon Kuchinski and DeVaughn Gordon.
Bradley Cottrell, Chris Ernest, Keenan Goletz, Luke Harto, Nick Naumann, J.T. Nixon, Braxton Nolte, Michael Pleva, Michael Schwarz, Chance Siebieda, Brandon Wallace.
C.J. Burch, Gary Gwynn, Parker Henry, Joe John, Coty Knecht, Nick Schubert, Bubba Slyder, Jimmy Tankovits, Derek Yocke, Christian Zane.
Nate Bakaitis, Ben Duplaga, Peter Hartzell, Caleb McCord, Matt Pleva.
Brandon Angalich, Brent Blazier, Alex Calvert, Isaac Calvert, Brian Campbell, Joe Chappelear, Dalton DeLong, Matt Gruber, Jeff Gwynn, Lucas Herrick, Wes Kahle, Kevin Keane, Gus Schmidt.


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DES MOINES, Iowa – A record number of over 1,100 faithful Cyclone fans showed up at the annual Meet The Coaches Night at the Community Choice Credit Union Convention Center in Des Moines tonight.
But this really shouldn't surprise you. The Iowa State Athletics Department has been in a record-setting mode as of late. For example, Iowa State officials announced on Monday it exhausted all of its season tickets (over 43,000) for football for the first time in school history.
The anticipation for the 2013-14 season was evident at Meet The Coaches Night, as fans got the opportunity to revel in the excitement of Cyclone Athletics with the coaches and administration.
When Iowa State Athletics Director Jamie Pollard took over as leader of Cyclone athletics in 2005, he laid out a plan for the athletics department. He was hoping season tickets for football would exceed 28,000 in his first year (2006) and would increase yearly. With a commitment to detail, his vision has exceeded all expectations. He thanked the passionate Iowa State fanbase for their support and generosity.
"To think there was a day where we were happy to have 40,000 at a game," Pollard said. "Now we have a chance to have sellouts in our first four games of over 56,000 people. That is unbelievable. I can't thank you enough for what you are doing for us."
Iowa State head football coach Paul Rhoads, who's led the Cyclones to three bowl games in his four years, was there to ignite the crowd with another emotional speech.
Rhoads took time out of fall camp to thank Cyclone Nation for their loyalty.
"I told our fans in 2010 you better get your season tickets today because there will come a day where you won't be able to get any. Thank you, Cyclone Nation!"


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This video provides an explanation of the concept of solving equations with addition and subtraction.
Quiz for Solving One Step Equations.
A list of student-submitted discussion questions for One-Step Equations and Inverse Operations.
To encourage students to generate questions, activate their prior knowledge, and collect information to answer their own questions using a Question and Answer Table.
Come up with questions about a topic and learn new vocabulary to determine answers using the table
To activate prior knowledge, to generate questions about a given topic, and to organize knowledge using a KWL Chart.
All students will be able to figure out how much it costs to attend a four-year university and represent this relationship as a proportional linear equation.
This study guide looks at the properties of equality and solving linear equations in one variable. It also looks at the number of solutions to linear equations in one variable.


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Iowa State's team of the decade - Big 12 Blog - ESPN
Not Bad.
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Dude, you are Gameday Rulzzz and could probably post about anything.
Originally Posted by cardinal&gold
Iowa State's team of the decade - Big 12 Blog - ESPN
Not a lot to argue about. I may have gone with Big Lo instead of Stubbe on the OL, but maybe that is just personal preference.
The picks of ARob and Enis over Hicks is correct.
He showed more knowledge about ISU than I thought he had.
Don't you think Berryman has to be on there? I know the situation but I have to think he is one of the best on the DL.
This is very important:
2014-15 KenPom AdjO (rating)
116.3 (11)
2015-16 KenPom AdjO (rating
120.7 (3)
Hard to leave James Reed off the DL, but I'm not sure who I would drop.
"I believe the state color for Alabama should be primer," Larry the Cable Guy.
He F'd up Reggie Hayward's name though.
Other than Billups in the secondary i agree with who he had.
Cyclone State Now & Forever
Moser or Paris over LJ. Jury is still out on LJ. Gets beat too easily on the deep ball.
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Wide Right & Natty Lite - Loyal Sons, Forever True. With beer!
Berryman, James Reed? Tough call. We had some good D-linemen. Moser at FS is a good one too....maybe move Billups to Punt Ret....over JJ - Though that is a tough call too.
Really spot on.
I would take Troy Blankenship in his prime over Tony Yelk at punter but I can't complain with a whole lot of that list.
I had forgotten that Yelk was also our punter.
I removed it.
Originally Posted by rworkman83
I had forgotten that Yelk was also our punter.
I understand. His time here was very limited.
I think our secondary should look like this.
CB - Hobbs III
CB - LeMarcus Hicks
SS - Billups
FS - Moser
Moser just had instincts like no other. Billups was surprisingly good back there too. Much more than I thought he would be after he converted from HB.
Originally Posted by d4nim4l
I understand. His time here was very limited.
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Trey Hillman media session: April 23
The talk today centered on the new additions to the Kansas City Royals; right-handed pitcher Brad Thompson and left-handed pitcher Bruce Chen. Royals' manager Trey Hillman is excited to see the new arms in the bullpen and stated he is looking for the right combination to get the baseball to closer Joakim Soria in the ninth inning. Hillman knows that the Royals record this season would be significantly improved had they seen better outings from their relievers.
With these additions, also came some losses from the Royals' bullpen. The Royals released relief pitcher Juan Cruz and designated relief pitcher Luis Mendoza for assignment. Hillman cited that Cruz didn't have his full strength on several occasions this spring, possibly from a lingering sore shoulder that bothered him last season. However, Hillman believes these moves show the Royals are dedicated to winning now and will not settle for giving away any victories.


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*Percent Daily Values are based on the 2000 Calorie Diet. Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on your calorie needs. **Daily value not established.
Suggested Use: As a dietary supplement, take 2 capsules 1-2 times daily with meals or on an empty stomach.
Other Ingredients: Gelatin (capsule), Stearic Acid and Magnesium Stearate. Contains shellfish derivative.
Contains no: sugar, salt, starch, yeast, wheat, gluten, corn, soy, milk, egg or preservatives.
Warnings: Persons with a known allergy to shellfish should not use this product.
NOW Foods developed the glucosamine test method chosen as the official AOACI industry standard method.
Glucosamine and MSM combine the nutritive benefits of two potent dietary supplements. Glucosamine is an amino sugar derived from the chitin of shellfish that is used by the body to support healthy joint structures.* MSM is a natural form of organic sulfur found in all living organisms and is currently a popular supplement with health enthusiasts everywhere.
Read more about Joint Health from Your Health Professor
Glucosamine is derived from glucose and glutamine (an amino acid). It is used to produce substances in the body that attract and bind water into tissues, making them more resilient. It is especially important to maintain properly functioning joint structures.
Glucosamine is produced by removing the proteins and minerals from the shells of shrimp and crab. This is done primarily in China, with some coming from other Asian countries, including Thailand and Malaysia.
NOW has developed the Official AOAC Method for testing glucosamine and has used this method for the past five years.
NOW's Chondroitin is derived from bovine tissue from cattle. As with all of our raw materials, we screen Chondroitin very carefully for the presence of any undesirable microbes. NOWs state-of-the-art analytical lab has developed a method of testing chondroitin, which is currently being verified by independent labs around the world and is expected to become an Official Method used to test all products containing chondroitin sulfate.
By Joseph Zhou, Ph.D., Director of Lab Methods, NOW Foods
Quite a few of NOW customers have sent their feedback to us, commenting that they have tried many other brands of glucosamine, chondroitin and MSM products and did not get satisfactory results. But they are happy with NOW products because, in their words, these products work!
Glucosamine, chondroitin and MSM are combination components that promote joint health. Glucosamine is a basic building block of the cartilage that cushions the joints, and chondroitin is a more complex constituent substance of that cartilage, while MSM provides plentiful amounts of the mineral sulfur to the cartilage. Studies have shown that glucosamine, chondroitin and MSM can each effectively relieve occasional pain and stiffness without the side effects of conventional analgesics. As pharmaceutical products may contribute to a higher risk of heart disease, a significant number of consumers want to try natural joint support nutrients first.
The secret of how NOWs joint support products show high efficacy is their quality. NOWs scientists have developed many excellent analytical methods to support product development and maintain quality control. These analytical methods are backed by rigorous science. Most of them consist of the innovative use of simple procedures, thus requiring less time and lower costs to run than standard tests. NOWs analytical methods are recognized by AOAC International, a 120-year-old not-for-profit scientific association committed to worldwide confidence in analytical results. For example, AOACs Expert Review Panel (ERP) on glucosamine and chondroitin respectively selected NOWs glucosamine and chondroitin methods as the best methods for further laboratory validation. After AOAC rigorous single laboratory validation (SLV) and collaborative study, the glucosamine method is now an AOAC Official MethodSM, designated as AOAC method 2005.01, and the method is now widely used throughout the industry. NOWs chondroitin method is currently in the process of AOAC validation and is expected to become another AOAC official method. We are now performing the single laboratory validation of NOWs MSM method for AOAC.
The AOAC Official Method Program is the result of a contract between the FDAs Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition and the NIHs Office of Dietary Supplements with AOAC International. The purpose of the contract is to provide government agencies and the dietary supplements industry with AOAC Official Methods that are applicable to commercially available dietary supplements and raw materials.
Accurate and precise analytical methods guarantee and promote good quality products. For example, NOWs analytical method for chondroitin sulfates is an enzymatic HPLC method. Because both the specific enzyme and modern HPLC separation techniques are used, this method is extremely selective and highly accurate only to chondroitin sulfates. Each component of chondroitin sulfate being tested can actually be identified and seen on a chromatogram, which is a visual representation of the test results.
In contrast, the USP CPC (Cetyl Pyridinium Chloride) titration method for chondroitin sulfates has very poor selectivity. (In principle, all sulfated and non-sulfated glycosaminoglycans, proteins, dextran sulfate, and surfactants with suitable molecular weight as polyanion score positively in the CPC titration method.) This means that the current USP method can be ineffective in identifying pure versus adulterated materials, and the test results from this imprecise method could make poor quality or adulterated chondroitin sulfates seem to be identical to better quality material.


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Our native iOS mobile app went live on the App Store last week and was featured exclusively in TechCrunch on June 18th.
In just one week, the app has been downloaded more than 100,000 times, rising to the top ranks on the App Store and claiming the number-one spot in the "Free "and "Business" categories and joining the "Top 50 Apps" overall. It is a great achievement and testament to the hard work we put into developing our iOS app. Although dozens of career apps exist, none of them were built with the on-the-go job seeker in mind. We have designed a clean, intuitive interface to streamline the job-matching experience. As a result, our team was not surprised by the app's first-week performance.
Last Thursday, I was in San Francisco to unveil the app at our San Francisco JobMobile event to TheLadders' employer community, which boasts more than 40,000 nationwide.
That same night, after the event, I boarded a plane at midnight from San Francisco International Airport and flew to Montreal, Canada, (via Detroit) and drove two hours on Friday to go to Mont-Tremblant in Quebec to participate this past Sunday in the Ironman 70.3 Executive Challenge.
The Ironman Executive challenge is a race within the race for C-level executives around the world. During our three days in Mont-Tremblant, we had the opportunity to meet several professional athletes such as fellow Frenchman and 2012 title winner Romain Guillaume and other 2012 winner Magali Tisseyre. Linsey Corbin, who won the Ironman Female pro title this past Sunday (ahead of Magali) also finished eighth in the Ironman World championship in Kona, Hawaii, in 2012.
During breakfast, I sat next to Magali and Lindsey and discovered that although they compete against each other during the race, they also train together during the year. Linsey claimed that her psychological advantage over Magali is that she gets into her opponent's head by writing on the soles of her running sneakers: "Eat my dust."
Ironman 70.3 Mont-Tremblant was my fourth Ironman 70.3 race, but also my first within the Executive Challenge category. I was nervous about entering this competition as eight out of 10 competitors have previously qualified for the World Championship of full-distance Ironman in Kona.
For instance, Brian Weaver, the overall winner of this year's challenge, finished the race in 4:29:39. Brian ranked 33 overall out of 2,500 racers, finishing three minutes behind Linsey and nine seconds ahead of Magali, who finished second in the pro-female category. Not bad for a CEO who races in Ironman races on the side for fun!
Despite a poor swim start, I worked my way up the ranks during the bike portion to complete the 56-mile bike ride in 2:48:49.
However, it came with a price. At mile 44 on the bike, I started to suffer from cramps, which returned during the first mile of the run at the bottom of the first hill. At that point, I was ready to give up and endure my first DNF ("Did Not Finish," a designation given in a race, indicating that the competitor did not finish)when a friend of mine ran by and said: "Alex…walk!" So, I started walking. Eventually, I was able to run for another 1.5 miles, but the mighty cramps came back. I stopped and stretched, but nothing helped. Despite the cramps, I decided to resume my run. My strategy was simple: "Toughen up, Man!" I said to myself. The main source of motivation for my suffering was that I was in the lead for the PR challenge.
PR Challenge Slot One (1) additional Ironman 70.3 World Championship slot will be awarded at each Ironman 70.3 XC Series Event in 2013 to the athlete with the Most Improved Personal Record.
I ended up running the 13.1 miles with cramps in 1:52:32 and finished in 5:31:40. I ranked fourth in the under-49 years of age category of the Executive Challenge and claimed the overall PR slot.
For the first time in my triathlete career, I will be competing among 1,800 athletes at the World Championship of Ironman 70.3 in Las Vegas on September 8, 2013, which is a qualification-only race. More than 60,000 athletes around the world compete each year for a coveted slot at the World Championship.
Over the past seven days, I've learned three valuable lessons:
- As PayPal co-founder, entrepreneur, venture capitalist, and hedge fund manager Peter Thiel said, "Sometimes, the last mover's advantage matters more than the first mover's." Our native iOS app's performance this week demonstrates that.
- It is not because the little "evil" voice in your head is telling you to quit that it is actually acceptable to quit. I have met too many executives who do not have the mental discipline to "tough it up," so they just surrender!
- To anyone who wants to follow our lead in the native iOS mobile app world: Eat my dust!
Alexandre Douzet is the CEO and Co-founder of TheLadders, the premier mobile and online job-matching service for career-driven professionals. In this role, Alex is responsible for the company strategy, global business operations, and product development. Follow Alex on Twitter at @ADouzet.


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ST. LOUIS (KSDK) - Sunscreen can help protect your skin from sun damage, but did you know there are two big reasons to take extra care of your eyes while in the sun?
That's the subject of this week's 8 Ways to Prevent Cancer segment.
"The eye area is very, very important," said Dr. Lynn Cornelius with the Siteman Cancer Center.
But it's often overlooked as you slather sunscreen on your face, arms and legs. Burn that sensitive skin right around the eyes, including the eyelids, and you can get wrinkles, and raise your risk of skin cancer.
You also run the risk of developing a painful eye condition.
"In fact you get ultraviolet B exposure to the cornea which is a lot of exposure you can get a keratitis," said Dr. Cornelius.
That's what happened to CNN journalist Anderson Cooper. He went blind for 36 hours in early December on a shoot for 60 Minutes.
Cooper was out on the water without sunglasses, and ended up with keratitis which is basically a sunburn to his cornea, the outer covering of the eyeball.
"If you essentially get a sunburn of the corneal area, the outside area and get inflammation and swelling. So it's that swelling to my understanding that really causes the decreased vision," said Dr. Cornelius.
Sunscreen can sting the eyes, so you want to be careful when putting it on. But there's another way to protect your vision, and lower your risk of cancer and eye injury. One you should never be without.
"It's very easy to get wrap around, 99 to 100 percent UV protection from your glasses," said Dr. Cornelius.


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An upward revision of April housing starts boosted the markets higher during the midday with the Dow soaring 126 points to 12,868. Nasdaq jumped 36 points to 2931.
On the upside
Shares of Galena Biopharm (Nasdaq: GALE) rose ahead of its presentation at the 2012 BIO International Convention tomorrow.
A gain in permits to build new homes lifted shares of building products company Louisiana-Pacific (NYSE: LPX).
A rubber surplus is expected to lower raw material expenses for Goodyear Tire & Rubber (NYSE: GT).
On the downside
Western Gas Partners (NYSE: WES) priced its public offering of 5 million common units at the discounted price of $43.88 per unit.
Barnes & Noble (NYSE: BKS) narrowed fourth quarter losses but Nook e-reader sales fell.
HCP (Nasdaq: HCP) announced a public offering of 7.8 million common shares.
In the broad market, advancing issues outpaced decliners by a margin of nearly 6 to 1 on the NYSE and by 7 to 2 on Nasdaq. The Russell 2000 which tracks small cap stocks leaped 13 points to 786.


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May 31, 2016
Joe Blount was nominated by the governor to replace Ed Buelow who has held the post since 1992. The nomination was given to the Senate Finance Committee this week.
The 57-year-old Blount served two terms in the Mississippi House from 1976 to 1984. He was instrumental in passage of statewide property tax reforms.
Blount is a member of the state Board of Education, a post he will have to give up.
Buelow, served in the House from 1976 until he was named Tax Commission chairman by Gov. Kirk Fordice in 1992. He was reappointed in 1998.
The chairman of the Tax Commission serves a six-year term. The appointment is confirmed by the Senate. The agency has a staff of about 800 people.
If confirmed, Blount would take office July 1. His term would run to June 30, 2010.
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Hi guys,
I sucessfully installed zimbra on my server, but now I stuck with the external account feature of zcs. My goal is to use my existing account as external imap account for zimbra. Ideally I want to load the mails from the external account into my zimbra's inbox.
But I can only choose the option to save the mails into a new folder. There is an option to save them into the zimbra inbox but this option cannot be choosen.
Is the external account feature not intended to allow saving messages into zcs inbox?
Thanks for any idea how to achieve that


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Wanted to get this on record in the hope that it will help other zimbra (MTA) newbies in future troubleshooting: Disclaimer: I'm no expert but hey, it's working.
I installed a Zimbra server on Fedora Core 4 on my home network using a Bellsouth ADSL connection. The problem I ran into was that Bellsouth blocks all outbound port 25 traffic not funneled to mail.bellsouth.net. When I set the relay MTA for external delivery (in admin console) to mail.bellsouth.net I got mail bounces with the following error message:
This is the Postfix program at host [myfqdn].com.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster>
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.
The Postfix program <recipient's email adddress>: host mx01.mail.bellsouth.net[184.108.40.206] said:
550 relaying mail to [recipient's email domain] is not allowed (in reply to RCPT TO command)
Here's the configuration that fixed it:
Match your external dns (i.e. DYNDNS.org) FQDN and your server's FQDN during installation of Fedora. (If you are blah.yada.com on the outside, name your server blah.yada.com during install)
Install Zimbra.
127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
192.168.20.3 server.domain.com server (your fqdn and hostname)
search domain.com (my domain name)
nameserver 127.0.0.1 ( my server's install of bind )
nameserver 192.168.20.1 (my linksys router probably not a good idea..)
(Yum) install: (from rpm -qa | grep bind, all may not be necessary)
service named start
chkconfig named on
From system-config-bind a bind configuration gui:
add a new forward lookup zone for your domain name
add a new "A" record for your FQDN (server.domain.com), Yes you want to generate a PTR record..
do a nslookup [hostname] and nslookup [fqdn]. If you don't get your private (NAT) address (i.e. 192.168.20.3) then it isn't set up correctly.
In the zimbra admin console set relay MTA for external delivery to mail.bellsouth.net. Uncheck DNS lookups.
su zimbra; zmcontrol stop; zmcontrol start; exit (or just reboot since it isn't a production server)
Since your emails are funneled through bellsouth's smtp server, the destination server can resolve an MX record even though you don't have one at your home. The MX record domain names don't match but most servers only care that they find an mx record period..
Forgive me if I missed a step: writing from memory.
Zimbra is absolutely amazing, keep going guys!


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Psychosomatic Medicine Fellowship - Campus & Facilities
Hartford Hospital (HH) and The Institute of Living (IOL) share a campus located just south of downtown Hartford and the state capitol, and just a few blocks east of Trinity College. Along with the adjacent Connecticut Children's Medical Center (CCMC), the hospitals form one of the nation's most sophisticated medical complexes.
The core clinical facilities for the Hartford Hospital/Institute of Living Psychosomatic Medicine Fellowship Program include:
Hartford Hospital
The 850-bed Hartford Hospital is a tertiary referral center and the largest general hospital in the state of Connecticut.
A Learning Community
Hartford Hospital serves as a major affiliated training site for University of Connecticut (UConn) School of Medicine house officers and medical students in psychiatry, medicine, surgery, pediatrics, ob-gyn, emergency medicine, neurology, surgical subspecialties (ENT, orthopedics, urology), cardiology, critical care, trauma surgery and a variety of internal medicine fields. HH/IOL and UConn residents rotate at Hartford Hospital on internal medicine, neurology, consultation/liaison psychiatry, and emergency room/crisis intervention services. A variety of PGY-4 electives are available.
Psychiatry's Role
Psychiatry at Hartford Hospital includes an extensive consultation/liaison program and the state's largest and busiest Emergency Psychiatry Service. The psychiatry staff who are involved in the training program hold full academic or clinical appointments with the University of Connecticut School of Medicine and participate fully in the didactic and supervisory "medicine-psychiatry" interface of many of the training programs. Patients treated at Hartford Hospital include individuals with a full range of disorders. The patient population is socioeconomically and ethnically diverse.
Hospital Resources
Hartford Hospital has seven intensive care units: medical, cardiac, pulmonary rehabilitation, surgical, cardiothoracic surgery, neurosurgical and neonatal. Each has an attached step-down unit. The hospital also has medical, surgical, surgical subspeciality (ENT, orthopedic, urology), obstetrics, gynecology, neurology and cardiology units, as well as specialty units in oncology, palliative care, Level 1 surgical trauma, transplantation and dialysis. Outpatient clinics also serve a full spectrum of patients.
The Institute of Living
The Institute of Living (IOL) is the Department of Psychiatry of Hartford Hospital. The IOL provides a full complement of psychiatric services, treating patients with a wide range of disorders. The facility includes three 28-bed general adult locked inpatient units. It also has a Child and Adolescent Inpatient Unit and a Geriatric Inpatient Unit with a subspecialized dementia treatment section.
Range of Resources
Partial hospital programs at the IOL include the General Adult Program, the Addiction Recovery Service, the Eating Disorders Program, the Geriatric Program, the Professionals Program, the Trauma Track (of the Adult Program) and the Schizophrenia Rehabilitation Program. The Outpatient Department provides general adult care as well as subspecialized services in Anxiety Disorders, Geriatric Psychiatry, Couples and Family Treatment, Forensic Psychiatry and Sexual Disorders. The Assessment Center provides unscheduled ambulatory evaluations and home-based outreach services. The Crisis Intervention Service provides short-term focused treatment and referral for patients initially seen in the Emergency Department and on the Consultation/Liaison Service at Hartford Hospital. The Geriatric Program provides inpatient, outpatient, and partial hospital treatment, as well as nursing home consultation and home visits. The Child and Adolescent Program provides a full range of services, including inpatient, partial and outpatient services. Primary, middle and secondary schools on the grounds provide education in collaboration with the Day Treatment Program and Inpatient Services.
Training for PGY-1 and PGY-2 inpatient and addiction rotations occurs on general adult inpatient units. Training for the inpatient component of the geriatric rotations occurs on the geriatric services. The IOL provides clinical sites for rotations in inpatient, outpatient, child and adolescent, crisis intervention, addiction and geriatric psychiatry. A variety of PGY-4 elective slots are also available.
The psychiatry staff of the IOL who are involved in the training program hold full academic or clinical appointments with the University of Connecticut School of Medicine, and they participate fully in the didactic and supervisory aspects of the training program.
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