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Thinking about moving up to a G11 w/Gemini
Posted 28 March 2011 - 09:19 AM
It doesn't happen all the time, but it happens enough to take the fun out of AP.
It's already been to sent back to Celestron for the same problem and they "fixed" it, but now it's out of warranty.
I'm thinking about just getting a Losmandy G11 and saying good riddance to Celestron mounts altogether. But I have a few concerns since I have never used a Losmandy.
What's the learning curve like on the Gemini GOTO system? The Celestron GOTO routine is very easy, and I have gotten good AP results with my SSAG without having to drift align. I would have to sell my POD to finance the G11 so I want to make sure that I could get the G11 set-up and aligned in a reasonable amount of time since I won't be able to leave it set-up like I have been with the CGEM in the POD.
I'm open to other options for GOTO GEM mounts (non-Celestron) in the $2,000-$3,000 used range. I would prefer to not buy new and have a payload greater than that of an Atlas/EQ6/CGEM.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Posted 28 March 2011 - 09:47 AM
I've never used a G11, but hear nothing but positives about them. I don't think the learning curve would be that drastic, but I have no experience with them. The beauty of the G11 and all Losmandy is they are user friendly when it comes to adjustments and upgrades.
Posted 28 March 2011 - 09:54 AM
I looked up a Logitech Wingman and it looks like a video game controller. How do set that up to work?
Posted 28 March 2011 - 10:28 AM
Posted 28 March 2011 - 11:48 AM
I started with a CGEM and then moved to a G11. I wanted to get a mount that I could do up to 112 seconds of unguided exposures which is the limit of my Mallincam. The G11 has fit that bill very well. I really do like my mount.
With that being said, the CGEM all-star polar alignment was a dream compared to my G11. My current setup involves, polar alignment with a polar scope. Set the mount to it's 'Magic Counterweight down', align on first star (way off), align on second star (way off but a bit closer), ... align on the 6th or so star, and then do a Polar Axis Correction which is similar to a CGEM All-Star align.
The PAC correction has you align on a star close to the Meridian and Celestial Equator, select the PAC routine which moves the mount where it thinks it should be if it's accurately aligned, and then use the DEC and ALT knobs to move the star to center. Very much like the All-Star align, but not as elegant. After that I restart the mount and re-do the alignment model and then try another PAC. If it's not pretty close, I'll repeat until it is.
The good news is that when it's aligned it tracks unbelievably well with a really large load. The bad news is that I was spoiled by the All Star Polar Alignment and other features on Celestron, so the Losmandy Lvl4 version doesn't measure up in those respects. All of the issues would be non-issues if I had an observatory. It will be one of my future purchases.
All-in-all I love the mount performance. The new versions are coming with Gemini II which may solve some of these issues. I haven't heard yet. On the other hand, it may have teething pains too.
If I were you, I'd keep the CGEM And the POD and try to work through the issues as long as the mount has your required carrying capacity. The utility of having an observatory is huge. You'll find yourself not using the mount more and more due to setup time. Also, there are lots of folks getting great shots with a CGEM, so it's achievable if you can get through your mounts issues.
Posted 28 March 2011 - 12:35 PM
The G11 is easy to work on and has much more carrying capacity. Learning Gemini takes a couple of nights of working through the menus, but once you've done it, it's second nature. Gemini II is still being refined, but will be a substantial improvement over Gemini 1.
If it's in your budget, I'd look for a used G11. It will be easily upgradeable to Gemini II if you wish to. I use Gemini on my MI250 and it works just fine.
Posted 28 March 2011 - 12:36 PM
Posted 28 March 2011 - 12:56 PM
I have had a new G-11 with Gemini II a month or so now. Be aware that the software for Gemini II is far from fully capable at the moment. Really only a rough, one star alignment is possible. My GOTOs usually, but not always, place the object within my lowest power EP which has a TFOV of very near 1º. Not exactly great. There are still some bugs that result in an occasional GOTO going so wrong as to have the OTA pointing well into the earth too.
You will not get any software manual for GII at the moment, just the most rudimentary "quick start" guide imaginable.
A more refined version of the software and a manual are being worked on. How close they are to release seems a trade secret between the software developer, the technical writer and Losmondy management.
Posted 28 March 2011 - 02:08 PM
I would get the Gemini 2 and bypass the original Gemini completely. It is obsolete now as are some critical parts for it.
Moving directly to the Gemini 2 could save cost in the future if you plan to keep the mount. I would also suggest waiting and not paying to be a beta tester until the final release is available.
Posted 28 March 2011 - 02:31 PM
The CGEM presented more of a challenge to me because the handset (although keyed differently) was similar to Meade's Autostar (and Autostar II) in shape. Due to this, by habit I kept pressing keys like it was an Autostar controller (and still do).
You really should not have any problem going to a Gemini L4 from a use standpoint. I cannot speak to the Gemini II, but you should consider it if you can.
Posted 28 March 2011 - 03:08 PM
Good advice from David.
I would get the Gemini 2 and bypass the original Gemini completely. It is obsolete now as are some critical parts for it.
Moving directly to the Gemini 2 could save cost in the future if you plan to keep the mount. I would also suggest waiting and not paying to be a beta tester until the final release is available.
What Phil said. Lord knows Phil and I have gone back and forth about Gemini but as much as I'd like to get my MI250 on the new firmware, I'm going to wait for the press release that says beta is over and the real thing is up and functioning before making the purchase.
As an alternative, there's a project currently in place with Sitech that will be a replacement for Gemini. However, there's a lot that has to go on to get it to work properly. Here is the Yahoo User Group link.
Posted 28 March 2011 - 07:21 PM
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Posted 29 March 2011 - 09:40 AM
Maybe hand control communication issues? I just know when I eliminated the H/C, the errors went away.
I like the ~idea~ of going to a wireless set-up, but I'm not understanding how that would solve the problem. It looks like the wireless receiver either the Nexremote or the Orion Starseek both plug into the same input jack that the hand controller plug into. If the problem is in the jack, how does this solve the "No Response" issue? When my mount freaks out, the HC is just sitting in the holder anyways....it's not like the problem arises as I'm holding the HC or moving the cable around.
Posted 29 March 2011 - 10:24 AM
and hopefully that help. For $20, it seems like a prudent 1st step.
Posted 29 March 2011 - 11:29 AM
Posted 29 March 2011 - 01:02 PM
Posted 30 March 2011 - 01:39 PM
I've been on an upward move from my original Western Auto 2 1/2" cardboard "scope" from the 60's, through a Meade DS-114, to a Vixen GP & 8" R200SS , to a LXD55 & 10"SNT . I now have a G11 non-Goto(used), that was upgraded with polar scope, digital setting circles, Sky Commander 4, Clutch grips, & Bob's Knobs. Great mount, Push & track is a mind twisting concept that I found difficult to grasp until I used it, then liked but didn't love it. I had gotten spoiled by Autostar & disappointed by the mounts' less than expected AP capacity. I found my used G11 & while it weighs a ton, 30# for the head, 25# for the HD tripod, 32# for the CW & shaft, plus the OTA & imaging gear makes for a full hand truck load. Not really a portable setup, more of a transportable, or better an observatory. I debated, hemmed & hawed, & read more Goto system specs than I want to remember, I even compared buying a new G11-G2 & selling off my G11. For me, upgrading my G11 to Gemini2 made the most sense for both $$$ & maintenance standpoints. The Gemini-1 did have some motor burnout issues, (partly due to balance issues, partly due to load issues), and (my pet peeve) static electricity failures. Losmandy has done a lot of remedial work on both of these issues. (Better motors, better electronics manufacturing, optional Maxon motors, etc.) However, even a bare bones G11 that is well balanced, polar aligned (I use the "drift method" but my tripod hasn't moved in months.), can track (IMO) better than anything in it's $$$ range. You're still looking at $2k for the mount, adding Gemini-2 adds $1500-$2500 depending on the options you toss in. (Polar scope, One piece worm block, Maxon motors, Heavy duty or folding tripod, extra CW, etc. it all adds up.....fast.) My upgrade is Gemini-2, Maxon motors, a single One high precision piece worm block, & GPS "should" come to ~$2300+shipping. That said, I can put all but one of my OTA's on it (a 14.5"f8 folded Newt that weighs 110# ) & it will (hopefully) Goto & track like I what it to. It is an AP setup. Next thing & have to get is at least one other camera. The DSI-C is ok but.....
Posted 30 March 2011 - 01:53 PM
For me, upgrading my G11 to Gemini2 made the most sense for both $$$ & maintenance standpoints. The Gemini-1 did have some motor burnout issues, (partly due to balance issues, partly due to load issues), and (my pet peeve) static electricity failures. Losmandy has done a lot of remedial work on both of these issues. (Better motors, better electronics manufacturing, optional Maxon motors, etc.)
"Better motors" ???
To that point, the issues that cause G11 motor burnout on a Gemini will also cause burnout on a Gemini-II. Also, lest anyone misses something, Maxon motors do also burn out when subjected to similar conditions.
Posted 31 March 2011 - 02:45 PM
Posted 31 March 2011 - 04:18 PM
Posted 31 March 2011 - 04:49 PM
On mine it was on the RJ style connector on the end of the HC cable. You really could not tell by looking at it, but in the course of operating the mount with the cord being so short you tend to tug on it a bit and that would cause my mount to either completely reset (like I powered it off and on) or I would get the No Response 16 or 17 errors. A new HC from Celestron cured the problem.
The new cable has arrived (along with a few days of rain) so we'll see if that solves the no response issue. Does anybody know if the bad crimping job on the connections is usually on the HC side or the mount side? I looked at both and I don't see anything that looks weird...


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So after today's shocking news about Richard Gasquet I have a question: Does anyone else see the Frenchie as the ATP's Jennifer Capriati?
I see too many similarities between his on-going saga and J-Cap's.
Saturday, May 9, 2009
Discuss: Reeshard vs. J-Cap
So after today's shocking news about Richard Gasquet I have a question: Does anyone else see the Frenchie as the ATP's Jennifer Capriati?
Labels: Jennifer Capriati, Richard Gasquet, tennis
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I definitely think so. There are just so many similarities here - they were both put under such intense pressure from such young ages. Its so easy to see how stuff like this could happen when they didn't really get a chance at having a childhood or a youth. I think its really sad. I mean, Reesh is only 23, right? Most 23 year olds don't exactly have perfect judgement. Especially when they've had to grow up so fast...ReplyDelete
I just hope he gets to have a comeback, like J-Cap. I don't know why, but there's something about this that's really gotten to me.
- AnonymousMay 9, 2009 at 4:32 PM
This makes me really sad. :( Oh Reeshie...ReplyDelete
I'm putting all of my hopes and dreams on his B test.ReplyDelete
Sadly, I don't think that you can compare. Jennifer had achieved much greater successes, including an olympic gold medal, before her temporary downfall.
Regardless, I hope that Richard gets his act together like Capriati and wins majors. He's too talented for this.
- AnonymousMay 9, 2009 at 8:06 PM
I agree with Sara, not sure that there are many similarities...Jen obviously went through a difficult time, but was off the tour when she went through the worst of her issues. Regardless, Richard is a huge talent, and it's a shame to see this happen. Also, there could be issues with the sampling procedure? Tennis magazine ran an interesting article about how Martina Hingis's sample may have been inaccurate, for various reasons. Testing procedures aren't always fool proof....ReplyDelete
- AnonymousMay 9, 2009 at 11:04 PM
He always had the talent but he was distinctly not a winner. Physically gifted but a mental midget. I think the pressure to succeed with as much talent that he had forced him to cope with the situation in this unfortunate way. He will undoubtedly get the two year ban if the quantity is as much as the rumors have been. That's going to close the window of his chances to win any majors. He was already on the downside of the mountain as it is.ReplyDelete
Oh dear Reeshie. I really hope the B test comes back clear. Because if he were to be banned for two years, I don't really see him recovering from that. If his head isn't in the right place now, things aren't going to get any easier. I hope I'm wrong and I really, sincerely hope he gets the help he needs.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousMay 10, 2009 at 10:33 AM
Should have done some smack nigraReplyDelete
B test came back positive. He's going to appeal and apparently an independent test done using hair came back negative. Fabrice Santoro came to his defense.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousMay 11, 2009 at 12:54 AM
Hmm, that's interesting.... Martina Hingis' hair sample came back negative also, but didn't help her when she tried to appeal.ReplyDelete
Seems like there are alot of inconsistencies with these kind of tests, but not sure if that will help Gasquet....
- Tennis ObserverMay 11, 2009 at 3:34 AM
Haha, clever Reeshard, he will send a wig to the hair test.ReplyDelete

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First Look: 2008 Home Schedule
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- More Interleague: San Francisco (June 20-22) and Colorado Rockies (June 24-26) – first time visit for the Rockies.
- Longest Homestand: Two 10-game homestands – the first from May 5-14 (Angels, Orioles and Tigers), while the second 10-gamer comes Aug. 1-10 (ChiSox, BoSox and Twins).
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- Function: ly:encode-string-for-pdf str
Encode the given string to either Latin1 (which is a subset of the PDFDocEncoding) or if that's not possible to full UTF-16BE with Byte-Order-Mark (BOM).
- Function: ly:engraver-announce-end-grob engraver grob cause
Announce the end of a grob (i.e., the end of a spanner) originating from given engraver instance, with grob being a grob. cause should either be another grob or a music event.
- Function: ly:engraver-make-grob engraver grob-name cause
Create a grob originating from given engraver instance, with given grob-name, a symbol. cause should either be another grob or a music event.
- Function: ly:error str rest
A Scheme callable function to issue the error str. The error is formatted with
formatand rest.
- Function: ly:event-property sev sym val
Get the property sym of stream event sev. If sym is undefined, return val or
'()if val is not specified.
- Function: ly:expect-warning str rest
A Scheme callable function to register a warning to be expected and subsequently suppressed. If the warning is not encountered, a warning about the missing warning will be shown. The message should be translated with
(_ ...)and changing parameters given after the format string.
- Function: ly:font-design-size font
Given the font metric font, return the design size, relative to the current output-scale.
- Function: ly:font-get-glyph font name
Return a stencil from font for the glyph named name. If the glyph is not available, return an empty stencil.
Note that this command can only be used to access glyphs from fonts loaded with
ly:system-font-load; currently, this means either the Emmentaler or Emmentaler-Brace fonts, corresponding to the font encodings
fetaBraces, respectively.
- Function: ly:font-glyph-name-to-charcode font name
Return the character code for glyph name in font.
Note that this command can only be used to access glyphs from fonts loaded with
ly:system-font-load; currently, this means either the Emmentaler or Emmentaler-Brace fonts, corresponding to the font encodings
fetaBraces, respectively.
- Function: ly:font-glyph-name-to-index font name
Return the index for name in font.
Note that this command can only be used to access glyphs from fonts loaded with
ly:system-font-load; currently, this means either the Emmentaler or Emmentaler-Brace fonts, corresponding to the font encodings
fetaBraces, respectively.
- Function: ly:font-index-to-charcode font index
Return the character code for index in font.
Note that this command can only be used to access glyphs from fonts loaded with
ly:system-font-load; currently, this means either the Emmentaler or Emmentaler-Brace fonts, corresponding to the font encodings
fetaBraces, respectively.
- Function: ly:font-magnification font
Given the font metric font, return the magnification, relative to the current output-scale.
- Function: ly:font-sub-fonts font
Given the font metric font of an OpenType font, return the names of the subfonts within font.
- Function: ly:format str rest
LilyPond specific format, supporting
~[0-9]f. Basic support for
~sis also provided.
- Function: ly:format-output context
Given a global context in its final state, process it and return the
Music_outputobject in its final state.
- Function: ly:generic-bound-extent grob common
Determine the extent of grob relative to common along the X axis, finding its extent as a bound when it a has
bound-alignment-interfacesproperty list set and otherwise the full extent.
- Function: ly:get-all-function-documentation
Get a hash table with all LilyPond Scheme extension functions.
- Function: ly:get-context-mods contextmod
Returns the list of context modifications stored in contextmod.
- Function: ly:get-spacing-spec from-scm to-scm
Return the spacing spec going between the two given grobs, from_scm and to_scm.
- Function: ly:grob-alist-chain grob global
Get an alist chain for grob grob, with global as the global default. If unspecified,
font-defaultsfrom the layout block is taken.
- Function: ly:grob-chain-callback grob proc sym
Find the callback that is stored as property sym of grob grob and chain proc to the head of this, meaning that it is called using grob and the previous callback's result.
- Function: ly:grob-common-refpoint grob other axis
Find the common refpoint of grob and other for axis.
- Function: ly:grob-common-refpoint-of-array grob others axis
Find the common refpoint of grob and others (a grob-array) for axis.
- Function: ly:grob-extent grob refp axis
Get the extent in axis direction of grob relative to the grob refp.
- Function: ly:grob-get-vertical-axis-group-index grob
Get the index of the vertical axis group the grob grob belongs to; return
-1if none is found.
- Function: ly:grob-object grob sym
Return the value of a pointer in grob grob of property sym. It returns
'()(end-of-list) if sym is undefined in grob.
- Function: ly:grob-parent grob axis
Get the parent of grob. axis is 0 for the X-axis, 1 for the Y-axis.
- Function: ly:grob-property grob sym val
Return the value for property sym of grob. If no value is found, return val or
'()if val is not specified.
- Function: ly:grob-property-data grob sym
Return the value for property sym of grob, but do not process callbacks.
- Function: ly:grob-pure-height grob refp beg end val
Return the pure height of grob given refpoint refp. If no value is found, return val or
'()if val is not specified.
- Function: ly:grob-pure-property grob sym beg end val
Return the pure value for property sym of grob. If no value is found, return val or
'()if val is not specified.
- Function: ly:grob-relative-coordinate grob refp axis
Get the coordinate in axis direction of grob relative to the grob refp.
- Function: ly:grob-robust-relative-extent grob refp axis
Get the extent in axis direction of grob relative to the grob refp, or
(0,0)if empty.
- Function: ly:grob-set-nested-property! grob symlist val
Set nested property symlist in grob grob to value val.
- Function: ly:grob-set-parent! grob axis parent-grob
Set parent-grob the parent of grob grob in axis axis.
- Function: ly:grob-spanned-rank-interval grob
Returns a pair with the
rankof the furthest left column and the
rankof the furthest right column spanned by
- Function: ly:gulp-file name size
Read size characters from the file name, and return its contents in a string. If size is undefined, the entire file is read. The file is looked up using the search path.
- Function: ly:input-both-locations sip
Return input location in sip as
(file-name first-line first-column last-line last-column).
- Function: ly:input-file-line-char-column sip
Return input location in sip as
(file-name line char column).
- Function: ly:input-message sip msg rest
Print msg as a GNU compliant error message, pointing to the location in sip. msg is interpreted similar to
format's argument, using rest.
- Function: ly:input-warning sip msg rest
Print msg as a GNU compliant warning message, pointing to the location in sip. msg is interpreted similar to
format's argument, using rest.
- Function: ly:interpret-music-expression mus ctx
Interpret the music expression mus in the global context ctx. The context is returned in its final state.
- Function: ly:interpret-stencil-expression expr func arg1 offset
Parse expr, feed bits to func with first arg arg1 having offset offset.
- Function: ly:item-break-dir it
The break status direction of item it.
-1means end of line,
0unbroken, and
1beginning of line.
- Function: ly:item-get-column it
Return the
NonMusicalPaperColumnassociated with this
- Function: ly:lexer-keywords lexer
Return a list of
(KEY . CODE)pairs, signifying the LilyPond reserved words list.
- Function: ly:line-interface::line grob startx starty endx endy
Make a line using layout information from grob grob.
- Function: ly:make-book paper header scores
Make a
\bookof paper and header (which may be
#fas well) containing
- Function: ly:make-context-mod mod-list
Creates a context modification, optionally initialized via the list of modifications mod-list.
- Function: ly:make-duration length dotcount num den
length is the negative logarithm (base 2) of the duration: 1 is a half note, 2 is a quarter note, 3 is an eighth note, etc. The number of dots after the note is given by the optional argument dotcount.
The duration factor is optionally given by integers num and den, alternatively by a single rational number.
A duration is a musical duration, i.e., a length of time described by a power of two (whole, half, quarter, etc.) and a number of augmentation dots.
- Function: ly:make-global-context output-def
Set up a global interpretation context, using the output block output-def. The context is returned.
- Function: ly:make-global-translator global
Create a translator group and connect it to the global context global. The translator group is returned.
- Function: ly:make-grob-properties alist
This packages the given property list alist in a grob property container stored in a context property with the name of a grob.
- Function: ly:make-moment m g gn gd
Create the moment with rational main timing m, and optional grace timing g.
A moment is a point in musical time. It consists of a pair of rationals (m, g), where m is the timing for the main notes, and g the timing for grace notes. In absence of grace notes, g is zero.
For compatibility reasons, it is possible to write two numbers specifying numerator and denominator instead of the rationals. These forms cannot be mixed, and the two-argument form is disambiguated by the sign of the second argument: if it is positive, it can only be a denominator and not a grace timing.
- Function: ly:make-music props
Make a C++
Musicobject and initialize it with props.
This function is for internal use and is only called by
make-music, which is the preferred interface for creating music objects.
- Function: ly:make-music-function signature func
Make a function to process music, to be used for the parser. func is the function, and signature describes its arguments. signature's cdr is a list containing either
ly:music?predicates or other type predicates. Its car is the syntax function to call.
- Function: ly:make-page-permission-marker symbol permission
Return page marker with page breaking and turning permissions.
- Function: ly:make-pango-description-string chain size
Make a
PangoFontDescriptionstring for the property alist chain at size size.
- Function: ly:make-paper-outputter port format
Create an outputter that evaluates within
output-format, writing to port.
- Function: ly:make-pitch octave note alter
octave is specified by an integer, zero for the octave containing middle C. note is a number indexing the global default scale, with 0 corresponding to pitch C and 6 usually corresponding to pitch B. Optional alter is a rational number of 200-cent whole tones for alteration.
- Function: ly:make-scale steps
Create a scale. The argument is a vector of rational numbers, each of which represents the number of 200 cent tones of a pitch above the tonic.
- Function: ly:make-spring ideal min-dist
Make a spring. ideal is the ideal distance of the spring, and min-dist is the minimum distance.
- Function: ly:make-stencil expr xext yext
Stencils are device independent output expressions. They carry two pieces of information:
- A specification of how to print this object. This specification is processed by the output backends, for example 'scm/output-ps.scm'.
The vertical and horizontal extents of the object, given as pairs. If an extent is unspecified (or if you use
empty-intervalas its value), it is taken to be empty.
- Function: ly:make-stream-event cl proplist
Create a stream event of class cl with the given mutable property list.
- Function: ly:make-undead object
This packages object in a manner that keeps it from triggering "Parsed object should be dead" messages.
- Function: ly:make-unpure-pure-container unpure pure
Make an unpure-pure container. unpure should be an unpure expression, and pure should be a pure expression. If pure is omitted, the value of unpure will be used twice, except that a callback is given two extra arguments that are ignored for the sake of pure calculations.
- Function: ly:message str rest
A Scheme callable function to issue the message str. The message is formatted with
formatand rest.
- Function: ly:minimal-breaking pb
Break (pages and lines) the
Paper_bookobject pb without looking for optimal spacing: stack as many lines on a page before moving to the next one.
- Function: ly:modules-lookup modules sym def
Look up sym in the list modules, returning the first occurence. If not found, return def or
#fif def isn't specified.
- Function: ly:music-deep-copy m origin
Copy m and all sub expressions of m. m may be an arbitrary type; cons cells and music are copied recursively. If origin is given, it is used as the origin for one level of music by calling
ly:set-origin!on the copy.
- Function: ly:music-length mus
Get the length of music expression mus and return it as a
- Function: ly:music-mutable-properties mus
Return an alist containing the mutable properties of mus. The immutable properties are not available, since they are constant and initialized by the
- Function: ly:music-property mus sym val
Return the value for property sym of music expression mus. If no value is found, return val or
'()if val is not specified.
- Function: ly:note-column-accidentals note-column
Return the
AccidentalPlacementgrob from note-column if any, or
- Function: ly:note-column-dot-column note-column
Return the
DotColumngrob from note-column if any, or
- Function: ly:note-head::stem-attachment font-metric glyph-name
Get attachment in font-metric for attaching a stem to notehead glyph-name.
- Function: ly:one-line-auto-height-breaking pb
Put each score on a single line, and put each line on its own page. Modify the paper-width setting so that every page is wider than the widest line. Modify the paper-height setting to fit the height of the tallest line.
- Function: ly:one-line-breaking pb
Put each score on a single line, and put each line on its own page. Modify the paper-width setting so that every page is wider than the widest line.
- Function: ly:optimal-breaking pb
Optimally break (pages and lines) the
Paper_bookobject pb to minimize badness in bother vertical and horizontal spacing.
- Function: ly:option-usage port
ly:set-optionusage. Optional port argumentfor the destination defaults to current output port.
- Function: ly:otf->cff otf-file-name
Convert the contents of an OTF file to a CFF file, returning it as a string.
- Function: ly:otf-font-glyph-info font glyph
Given the font metric font of an OpenType font, return the information about named glyph glyph (a string).
- Function: ly:otf-font-table-data font tag
Extract a table tag from font. Return empty string for non-existent tag.
- Function: ly:output-def-lookup def sym val
Return the value of sym in output definition def (e.g.,
\paper). If no value is found, return val or
'()if val is undefined.
- Function: ly:output-find-context-def output-def context-name
Return an alist of all context defs (matching context-nameif given) in output-def.
- Function: ly:page-turn-breaking pb
Optimally break (pages and lines) the
Paper_bookobject pb such that page turns only happen in specified places, returning its pages.
- Function: ly:pango-font-physical-fonts f
Return alist of
(ps-name file-name font-index)lists for Pango font f.
- Function: ly:paper-book-paper pb
Return the paper output definition (
\paper) in
Paper_bookobject pb.
- Function: ly:paper-column::print
Optional stencil for
NonMusicalPaperColumn. Draws the
rank numberof each column, its moment in time, a blue arrow showing the ideal distance, and a red arrow showing the minimum distance between columns.
- Function: ly:paper-fonts def
Return a list containing the fonts from output definition def (e.g.,
- Function: ly:paper-get-font def chain
Find a font metric in output definition def satisfying the font-qualifiers in alist chain chain, and return it. (An alist chain is a list of alists, containing grob properties.)
- Function: ly:paper-get-number def sym
Return the value of variable sym in output definition def as a double.
- Function: ly:paper-score-paper-systems paper-score
Return vector of
paper_systemobjects from paper-score.
- Function: ly:paper-system-minimum-distance sys1 sys2
Measure the minimum distance between these two paper-systems, using their stored skylines if possible and falling back to their extents otherwise.
- Function: ly:parse-string-expression parser-smob ly-code filename line
Parse the string ly-code with parser-smob. Return the contained music expression. filename and line are optional source indicators.
- Function: ly:parsed-undead-list!
Return the list of objects that have been found live that should have been dead, and clear that list.
- Function: ly:parser-clone closures location
Return a clone of current parser. An association list of port positions to closures can be specified in closures in order to have
#interpreted in their original lexical environment. If location is a valid location, it becomes the source of all music expressions inside.
- Function: ly:parser-error msg input
Display an error message and make current parser fail. Without a current parser, trigger an ordinary error.
- Function: ly:parser-has-error? parser
Does parser (defaulting to current parser) have an error flag?
- Function: ly:parser-include-string ly-code
Include the string ly-code into the input stream for current parser. Can only be used in immediate Scheme expressions (
$instead of
- Function: ly:parser-lookup symbol
Look up symbol in current parser's module. Return
'()if not defined.
- Function: ly:parser-output-name parser
Return the base name of the output file. If
parseris left off, use currently active parser.
- Function: ly:parser-parse-string parser-smob ly-code
Parse the string ly-code with parser-smob. Upon failure, throw
- Function: ly:parser-set-note-names names
Replace current note names in parser. names is an alist of symbols. This only has effect if the current mode is notes.
- Function: ly:performance-write performance filename name
Write performance to filename storing name as the name of the performance in the file metadata.
- Function: ly:pfb->pfa pfb-file-name
Convert the contents of a Type 1 font in PFB format to PFA format.
- Function: ly:pitch-diff pitch root
Return pitch delta such that root transposed by delta equals pitch.
- Function: ly:pitch-transpose p delta
Transpose p by the amount delta, where delta is relative to middle C.
- Function: ly:pointer-group-interface::add-grob grob sym grob-element
Add grob-element to grob's sym grob array.
- Function: ly:position-on-line? sg spos
Return whether spos is on a line of the staff associated with the grob sg (even on an extender line).
- Function: ly:prob-property prob sym val
Return the value for property sym of Prob object prob. If no value is found, return val or
'()if val is not specified.
- Function: ly:programming-error str rest
A Scheme callable function to issue the internal warning str. The message is formatted with
formatand rest.
- Function: ly:progress str rest
A Scheme callable function to print progress str. The message is formatted with
formatand rest.
- Function: ly:property-lookup-stats sym
Return hash table with a property access corresponding to sym. Choices are
grob, and
- Function: ly:pure-call data grob start end rest
Convert property data (unpure-pure container or procedure) to value in a pure context defined by grob, start, end, and possibly rest arguments.
- Function: ly:relative-group-extent elements common axis
Determine the extent of elements relative to common in the axis direction.
- Function: ly:round-filled-box xext yext blot
Make a
Stencilobject that prints a black box of dimensions xext, yext and roundness blot.
- Function: ly:round-filled-polygon points blot extroversion
Make a
Stencilobject that prints a black polygon with corners at the points defined by points (list of coordinate pairs) and roundness blot. Optionalextroversion shifts the outline outward, with thedefault of
-1.0keeping the outer boundary ofthe outline just inside of the polygon.
- Function: ly:run-translator mus output-def
Process mus according to output-def. An interpretation context is set up, and mus is interpreted with it. The context is returned in its final state.
Optionally, this routine takes an object-key to to uniquely identify the score block containing it.
- Function: ly:score-embedded-format score layout
Run score through layout (an output definition) scaled to correct output-scale already, returning a list of layout-lines.
- Function: ly:separation-item::print
Optional stencil for
NonMusicalPaperColumn. Draws the
horizontal-skylinesof each
PaperColumn, showing the shapes used to determine the minimum distances between
PaperColumnsat the note-spacing step, before staves have been spaced (vertically) on the page.
- Function: ly:set-default-scale scale
Set the global default scale. This determines the tuning of pitches with no accidentals or key signatures. The first pitch is C. Alterations are calculated relative to this scale. The number of pitches in this scale determines the number of scale steps that make up an octave. Usually the 7-note major scale.
- Function: ly:set-grob-modification-callback cb
Specify a procedure that will be called every time LilyPond modifies a grob property. The callback will receive as arguments the grob that is being modified, the name of the C++ file in which the modification was requested, the line number in the C++ file in which the modification was requested, the name of the function in which the modification was requested, the property to be changed, and the new value for the property.
- Function: ly:set-middle-C! context
Set the
middleCPositionvariable in context based on the variables
- Function: ly:set-origin! m origin
This sets the origin given in origin to m. m will typically be a music expression or a list of music. List structures are searched recursively, but recursion stops at the changed music expressions themselves. origin is generally of type
ly:input-location?, defaulting to
(*location*). Other valid values for
originare a music expression which is then used as the source of location information, or
'()in which case no action is performed. The return value is m itself.
- Function: ly:set-property-cache-callback cb
Specify a procedure that will be called whenever lilypond calculates a callback function and caches the result. The callback will receive as arguments the grob whose property it is, the name of the property, the name of the callback that calculated the property, and the new (cached) value of the property.
- Function: ly:solve-spring-rod-problem springs rods length ragged
Solve a spring and rod problem for count objects, that are connected by count-1 springs, and an arbitrary number of rods. count is implicitly given by springs and rods. The springs argument has the format
(ideal, inverse_hook)and rods is of the form
(idx1, idx2, distance).
length is a number, ragged a boolean.
The function returns a list containing the force (positive for stretching, negative for compressing and
#ffor non-satisfied constraints) followed by spring-count+1 positions of the objects.
- Function: ly:source-files parser-smob
A list of LilyPond files being processed;a PARSER may optionally be specified.
- Function: ly:spanner-bound spanner dir
Get one of the bounds of spanner. dir is
-1for left, and
1for right.
- Function: ly:spanner-set-bound! spanner dir item
Set grob item as bound in direction dir for spanner.
- Function: ly:spawn command rest
Simple interface to g_spawn_sync str. The error is formatted with
formatand rest.
- Function: ly:spring-set-inverse-compress-strength! spring strength
Set the inverse compress strength of spring.
- Function: ly:spring-set-inverse-stretch-strength! spring strength
Set the inverse stretch strength of spring.
- Function: ly:staff-symbol-line-thickness grob
Returns the current staff-line thickness in the staff associated with grob, expressed as a multiple of the current staff-space height.
- Function: ly:staff-symbol-staff-space grob
Returns the current staff-space height in the staff associated with grob, expressed as a multiple of the default height of a staff-space in the traditional five-line staff.
- Function: ly:start-environment
Return the environment (a list of strings) that was in effect at program start.
- Function: ly:stencil-aligned-to stil axis dir
Align stil using its own extents. dir is a number.
1are left and right, respectively. Other values are interpolated (so
0means the center).
- Function: ly:stencil-combine-at-edge first axis direction second padding
Construct a stencil by putting second next to first. axis can be 0 (x-axis) or 1 (y-axis). direction can be -1 (left or down) or 1 (right or up). The stencils are juxtaposed with padding as extra space. first and second may also be
- Function: ly:stencil-empty? stil axis
Return whether stil is empty. If an optional axis is supplied, the emptiness check is restricted to that axis.
- Function: ly:stencil-extent stil axis
Return a pair of numbers signifying the extent of stil in axis direction (
1for x and y axis, respectively).
- Function: ly:stencil-rotate stil angle x y
Return a stencil stil rotated angle degrees around the relative offset (x, y). E.g., an offset of (-1, 1) will rotate the stencil around the left upper corner.
- Function: ly:stencil-rotate-absolute stil angle x y
Return a stencil stil rotated angle degrees around point (x, y), given in absolute coordinates.
- Function: ly:stencil-scale stil x y
Scale stencil stil using the horizontal and vertical scaling factors x and y. Negative values will flip or mirror stil without changing its origin; this may result in collisions unless it is repositioned.
- Function: ly:stencil-stack first axis direction second padding mindist
Construct a stencil by stacking second next to first. axis can be 0 (x-axis) or 1 (y-axis). direction can be -1 (left or down) or 1 (right or up). The stencils are juxtaposed with padding as extra space. first and second may also be
#f. As opposed to
ly:stencil-combine-at-edge, metrics are suited for successively accumulating lines of stencils. Also, second stencil is drawn last.
If mindist is specified, reference points are placed apart at least by this distance. If either of the stencils is spacing, padding and mindist do not apply.
- Function: ly:stencil-translate stil offset
Return a stil, but translated by offset (a pair of numbers).
- Function: ly:stencil-translate-axis stil amount axis
Return a copy of stil but translated by amount in axis direction.
- Function: ly:string-percent-encode str
Encode all characters in string str with hexadecimal percent escape sequences, with the following exceptions: characters
/, and
_; and characters in ranges
A-Z, and
- Function: ly:system-font-load name
Load the OpenType system font 'name.otf'. Fonts loaded with this command must contain three additional SFNT font tables called
LILF, and
LILY, needed for typesetting musical elements. Currently, only the Emmentaler and the Emmentaler-Brace fonts fulfill these requirements.
Note that only
ly:font-get-glyphand derived code (like
\lookup) can access glyphs from the system fonts; text strings are handled exclusively via the Pango interface.
- Function: ly:text-interface::interpret-markup
Convert a text markup into a stencil. Takes three arguments, layout, props, and markup.
layout is a
\layoutblock; it may be obtained from a grob with
ly:grob-layout. props is an alist chain, i.e. a list of alists. This is typically obtained with
(ly:grob-alist-chain grob (ly:output-def-lookup layout 'text-font-defaults)). markup is the markup text to be processed.
- Function: ly:translate-cpp-warning-scheme str
Translates a string in C++ printf format and modifies it to use it for scheme formatting.
- Function: ly:translator-name trans
Return the type name of the translator object trans. The name is a symbol.
- Function: ly:ttf->pfa ttf-file-name idx
Convert the contents of a TrueType font file to PostScript Type 42 font, returning it as a string. The optional idx argument is useful for TrueType collections (TTC) only; it specifies the font index within the TTC. The default value of idx is 0.
- Function: ly:ttf-ps-name ttf-file-name idx
Extract the PostScript name from a TrueType font. The optional idx argument is useful for TrueType collections (TTC) only; it specifies the font index within the TTC. The default value of idx is 0.
- Function: ly:unpure-call data grob rest
Convert property data (unpure-pure container or procedure) to value in an unpure context defined by grob and possibly rest arguments.
- Function: ly:warning str rest
A Scheme callable function to issue the warning str. The message is formatted with
formatand rest.
- Function: ly:warning-located location str rest
A Scheme callable function to issue the warning str at the specified location in an input file. The message is formatted with
formatand rest.
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Just my opinion, as I certainly don't have a dog in this fight.. But, I think you could chase around the perfect scenario for forever.. Tags are so limited in the units that you are considering, and it only takes one good buck to make the hunt..
Take this year for example, the vast majority of the country was (is) in a severe drought, yet some mighty fine animals hit the dirt all across the country.
Again, just my opinion, as I'm not the guy who has diligently built the points to hunt those units. I'd personally be more afraid of the AZGF drastically changing tag quotas, or selling off to SFW than I would about 10 more fawns per 100 being born.


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Students from Albuquerque Academy's Team 1 are headed to the DOE National Science Bowl in Washington, D.C., after taking the top spot at the New Mexico Regional Middle School Science Bowl at Albuquerque Academy last Saturday.
More than 130 students from 29 teams representing 12 New Mexico middle schools participated in the annual event. A fast-paced question-and-answer tournament tests students' knowledge in biology, chemistry, physics and math.
The winning team received an all-expenses-paid trip to the nation's capital to compete against top teams from across the country in late April.
The students representing the first-place team are Harrison Bay, Eric Swiler, Henry Luo, Mark Swiler and team captain Thor Larson, coached by Barbara Gilbert. Second place went to Team 1 from Los Alamos Middle School and third place went to Team 2 from Albuquerque Academy.
About the photos:(Above) Albuquerque Academy Team 1, left to right: Thor Larson, Harrison Bay, Eric Swiler, Henry Luo, Mark Swiler(Below) Los Alamos Middle School, left to right: Wilbur Wang, Robert Zhu, Brandon Bao, David Gao
NNSA Acting Administrator Neile Miller this week hosted Los Alamos County Council Chair Geoffrey Rodgers, County Councilor Peter Sheehey and County Administrator Harry Burgess.
Miller thanked the county officials for their active interest in Los Alamos National Laboratory and for their leadership in the community. NNSA recognizes the value of a strong and collaborative relationship with the leadership of its laboratories' and plants' communities and appreciates the opportunity to advance the national nuclear security agenda through their partnership.
About the photo:County Administrator Harry Burgess, Los Alamos County Council Chair Geoffrey Rodgers, Acting Administrator Neile Miller, County Councilor Peter Sheehey.
More than 150 high school students converged on West Texas A&M University for the annual Pantex Science Bowl competition. The competition consisted of 32 teams from schools across the Texas Panhandle and High Plains.
The competition featured teams of four students answering science and math questions in a Jeopardy-style round-robin format, followed by a double elimination tournament. The winner will travel to Washington, D.C., in April to compete with other teams from across the U.S. for the national title.
Around 150 Pantex employees and community volunteers will be on hand to help run the Science Bowl.
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About the photos:First place: Amarillo High Black team.Second: Canyon High White team.Third: Randall High Black team.


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"Packer sinks $400m in Vegas bet"
"Sinks" being the operative word.
"Horror week for shares"
I thought it was delightful.
Dicky Fuld called his insurance company and asked them what day he would be burgled. The insurance company said "get a grip" so Dicky cancelled his policy. The next week Dicky was Burgled. Poor Dicky.
Clever Dicky ;-}
WOW Aust market down same as Dow in points. Last week Dow went down 317 points, when next it goes up by 317 points I'll give odds of a million to one our market doesn't go up 317 points the next day. If I had a million people to take me on at a dollar I'd be a millionaire.
Shorters - why didn't you warn us?
Your heart was tasty Dick. I used a spoon.
yes good point @dicky,surely they saw all this coming this week. very clever lot they are.
Why no warning?
Read Allan - Prahrana - 10:51 this morn, Dicky dude. I'm afraid you cannot use that excuse for your insurance claim.
*** But yeah, what a shocker was today, eh? ***
Have a good weekend
grab your goldies before close....
I moved the markets today.
I think it's safe to say that every time Shorten opens his mouth it's time to start shorting stocks...
CFE 15c stock. Paying 4c Div F/F. Yield is 26.66% GROSSED UP 38.08% ARE YOU KIDDING FANTASTIC. Last week company 20 Mill Assests Debts 80 Mill This week Company 80 Mill Assets NO DEBT.
One of my long-term dogs howling for all it's worth. Surprised the price dropped today but probably die to the 4c f/f div being paid in 2 instalments with the first one going ex-div 6 weeks from now. Will top-up if its falls further.
UXC hanging in there @BSB, give the dog a bone!
The old jack up the futures in the last hour trick eh?
Closed shorts, ready to get back in at any moment! Gonna be a late one tonight!
why don't you just add to them?
I've been adding all day since my first post this morning. I thought they'd do the silly run up in the last hour where I'd re-add near/after close. Done alright so far today, a few lost pts wont matter much overall!
..what just happened?
the market spoke :p
When CBA announce their results next Wednesday the negative sentiment on the banks will suddenly disappear...
CBA taking home owners for a ride. When jobs dry up, and they are, CBA will be most exposed. Smaller lenders (non big 6) will be hammered out and left to rust.
@Liberator, you must have made a killing today? Nice work.
No - I missed 50% of today as I got in a little late on the down and I bailed not long after open for 18 points. I was only thinking 20-25 down for the day. I was wrong! Anyone who open-short today's market would have made a killing!
Well, when we hit the highs a couple of weeks ago I said it was time for a correction of sorts. Looks like it's all happening right now.
I'll be looking at what happens when this political tension subsides, then we will see how strong the Bulls are.
If we see a strong rally in prices, pay attention to the volumes. If we get a day/week of high volumes but low price movement I'd be worried.
Anyways, best of luck to everyone who holds anything!
The reason Putin has banned food products coming in from neighbouring ex-Soviet states is that he wants to avoid the "spit-on-your-hamburger" effect.
Gee. Anyone who bought TON at 90c and still holding must be kicking themselves.
Down 1.5% - it's the end of the world!!!!! Save the women and children!!!! (Also, sell your house because the property market is apparently crashing today as well).
I am beginning to think the correction is upon us!
You think?
Time to buy some BHP calls? Couple more days like and then surely!!!
Today's bargains will be cheaper still on Monday. DOW futures down 75. The Dow dragged the rest of the world down from last night's trading and will repeat the exercise tonight as the factors that have led to the falls are not resolved. Looking for yield players where the falling price is increasing the yield. Stocks paying a good, steady dividend in the near future, but having a down day, are fair game.
"If he wants to reprimand his eastern European neighbours for joining the West, he has chosen a more appropriate weapon."
The whole article goes about how Putin is missing his mark only to in very last page come to correct conclusion that he isn't.
Just like US sanction against Cuba, these are more design to hurt his little neighbors that have been quite loudly drumming against Russia for last decade.
In Estonia the commemorate WW2 German invasion as "liberation" from soviets, and Poland has been most vocal in its calls for Russian sanctions.
Latvia and Lithuania have passed laws barring use of Russian language and denying voting rights to those who only speak Russian even if they lived there for generations. Act that is clearly breach of human rights, but once again when west breaches human rights its different. (see Australian Assylim seeker policy or US torture policy, or french banning burqa )
So while US-Russian geopolitical bickerring is continuing, it is the former Soviet states emboldened by NATO membership that are causing Putin most annoyance.
Ahhggrrr the pain!
but your rich?
I was richer this morning.
But thanks for caring.
The ASX has gone mad. In one week we have lost two YEARS of growth. Example of Ridiculousness Hang Seng down 48 points and is 5 times bigger in points. Dow down same as us yet three times bigger. This is madness. Why over 5 years do we go down more than the rest and not go up with them. This is five years not since the budget. It keeps happening. Ridiculousness RIO reported yesterday afternoon and it's in the red. Are you kidding What the hell is going on.
Sheer volume of the hedge fund shorts. Good for volatility at other times but hurts too many ordinary people on days like today.
Pretty obvious and maybe something needs to be done about it. What can be done is another question!
Are you forgetting that the ASX is merely the plaything of the Manattan fashionistas?
And they heckled me when I said three days ago that another 100 points would be knocked off the index. He who laughs last laughs loudest!
Good point Peter.
We are a laughing stock. Still waiting for the mother of all mining booms to translate into stratospheric share prices!!! That ship has sailed, unfortunately. Near on impossible to make money in this market...which ever way u jump the market does opposite.
@Peter we are performing worse than the others because the govt's of those countries are still in stimulatory mode. Our gov't has pulled in the horns and is intent on contracting the economy by reducing spending. Hence a weaker sharemarket, rising unemployment and in the end a worse deficit than what they started with as tax revenues decline but spending on the newly unemployed increases, despite the horrors of work-for-the-dole and 40 job applications a month.
@mitch - the countries that are "stimulating" their economies by printing money are not doing well at all, they're heading for disaster. Japan's Abenomics is turning into a right nightmare for them, and there is less and less trust in the US economy. No mitch, borrowing and printing money is not responsible policy.
No good news on the horizon, market over valued, problems in the middle east, problems in the east, Aussie employment in the toilet . . .
Not time to be buying. Sell Sell Sell before it's too late.
Agreed - sell, sell, sell!! A following-the-masses-strategy never fails!
Take that Putin
yep, that worked well! Australian sanctions against the evil Russia....now our beef producers are going to pay for politicians meddling in world affairs.
amazing how much gets wiped off the markets when the smell of fear is in the air!
shorters having an absolute picnic.
dont over think it ...just panic sell asap
Countplus (CUP) comeback on today of all days! I like that $1.55 price from the other day better!
whats dropping the market? my portfoilo looks better than most days lol.
shorten had a dig at vlad putin and the world has reacted negatively , that is all.
I could be wrong, but i'm pretty sure it is the end of the world as we know it...
please panic and sell.
You need to make your mind up @ No banks no brains. A week ago you were long claiming no fear in the market. Today your short ?????
yeah i agree with you...or do i? i dunno.
please panic and sell like me.
dont think .. act!
Relief rally next week? I am really tempted to go long the index here (for say a day or two/rally of 1-1.5%), but maybe Monday.....
I need more minerals.
do not over think this...panic and sell asap please
i can sell u some of mine! How about ABY, How many would u like?
XJO options plz.
@No Banks
Meh, i'm short some banks anyway. I hope they sell down more
But i'm tempted to go long the index..... its a tough call. I need a crystal ball.... :(
I am happy to be a non-home owner right now. They are going to take a bath (in blood) in the very near future. Take a look outside of Sydney housing market and you realise just how broken the market is. Not a good time to be a FHB all leveraged up... that ticking time bomb makes it hard to sleep! Ray White and all their bogus 'auctions'. Poor sellers being duped. Price at auction not meeting expectations? Oh really?
Agreed, can't wait for the extra homes (i.e. apartments that are not being rented) to flood the market as sales in the next 12-24 months, pushing down re-sale value, and soon rents will go even lower.... Gonna be great time to look to jump in (especially renting).
If you are simply a home owner what difference does it make? Nice attempt at scaremongering.
4Seam - did not read too far. So many leveraged to the hilt FHB's - it will be chaos. I smell panic selling coming to SEQLD... just a gut feeling. Do not alarm yourself.
Helping a relative buy an apartment in Canberra for cash, so no debt. Prices down about 10-15% from where they were before Abbott started wrecking the place. Located within walking distance of offices & a Town Centre. Prices will probably fall another 10% in the next year or so but there's that dead rent issue to weigh against the certainty, luxury and pride of ownership. Prime location ensures good resale value when sanity returns to gov't.
People have been scaremongering about home ownership for over a decade (and missed out on phenomenal growth doing it).
The keep overlooking two simple facts. If house prices drop, most owners just take it off the market, keep making repayments and wait. But even those that want to sell find that the market rises and falls together. So even though you can only sell your $1m mansion for $750,000, you can then buy another $1m mansion for $750,000 elsewhere. The only loss is on paper (and real estate agent commissions).
Except Peter that if you sell a house for $750k that you bought for a $1million the bank will be coming after you for that missing $250k so you can only buy a house worth $500k, even less when stamp duty and commissions are taken into account.. Still I would rather own than rent.
If you buy with cash - It would not matter what you pay as long as you like the place! I would wager only 2% of Australians could buy outright.
Sell you Bulls..sell hard
ANZ is down.
I'm about to buy some more, so expect it to drop further!
Great trading/investing strategy...
will you keep buying when the housing bubble bursts?
Russia doesn't give two hoots about Australia's trade deficit.
" Bill Shorten has launched a scathing attack on Russian President Vladimir Putin "
Mosquito attacks bear.
Bill Shorten... god help this nation should Labor win another term... or the Greens even worse! PUP - should be a banned organistation.
Well I say, Putin's days are surely counted now that Bill Shorten is on his case.
Assuming anyone cared what Bill Shorten (or any other politician for that matter) said anymore...
SUN results 13/08 on current price 6.1% ff div. Last div 50c expect higher this time.
Medium term good buy with long and short options.
All my opinion.
That 50 cent dividend was actually 30 cents + 20 cent special. Not sure if the special dividend will be repeated this year but ordinary will probably increase - maybe to 35 or 40 cents. So do not expect 50 cents.
Insurance result will be good as weather has been kind and bad bank has been sold off so might actually get a banking profit this year. Life business will drag but is smaller component.
On the watchlist but keep sidelined and might jump after divd drop or before if price right. Solid performer and havent been a jolder yet. Radar on
Foxxster correect re Div I should have said.
Don't you just hate it that, when on a big down day like today, the prices of the stocks that you are prepared to spend serious money on are flat or positive. Bad in the sense that they are still just beyond what you are prepared to pay but good in the sense that others confirm your opinion that they are worth the risk.
What's worse is when the shares you want to sell are also down so you don't have enough cash to buy the good ones on the dips. What a dilemma.....
not really. because it culls the bad eggs from the good eggs.
I agree with you. Today is one of those days that tests the resiliency of our share holdings. Furthermore today's situation may also help us to identify which holdings to get rid of when the market goes back up.
how is that chinese debt doing??
this will be the real killer imho ..sell asap!
Why should the markets be so edgy. After all Obama is set to save Iraqi Christians from the zealots. Vlad is in the same position. The coming invasion was delayed only by the airline incident.
Stuff em all.
Don't think. Just sell.
I think the market realises that ISIS won't be beat by airstrikes alone. They can melt into the general (sunni) population easily while continued airstrikes by Obama will be costly, both in monetary and human terms. As long as Obama refuses to cooperate with al-Assad and the Iranians, he can't win this one.
Just when you think your lot is bad, one look at the Nikkei and you realise someone is doing it tougher, down 463 points or 3.05%, yikes!
Small consolation I know but need to grateful for small mercies!
Anyone have 60 billion in cash handy, like me?
Short CBA $80.5, Long SLR 48c gift!
kicking myself for not jumping in earlier this week!
Sorry Australian youth. LNP and Labor have decided foreign owned companies (LNP and Labor donators) are far more important than you. You can work for the dole.
The Government is just following big Australian business. Coles / Woolies will push the boundaries of extortion until no Australian farm or supply chain exists. Services / Utility providers will continue to off-shore as many jobs necessary to turn a buck. Banks will be propped up by FIRB allowing full ownership of Australian property... whilst Australian workers pay for the roads and service to the cities these properties abide. I can go on all day with country killing issues, but, no one cares.
You have to laugh. Charlie telling his clients to sell banks and put the money where it will do better, eg in the unloved, short-sellers targets. There is are good reasons why those stocks are unloved and there are good reasons why the banks are preferred. No matter what is happening in the economy banks keep on making very good money and paying very good dividends with what seems like very little effort. The banks are sitting there as middlemen, taking a cut from just about every financial transaction that flows over their wires. For just about everybody else making money is a hard slog. I'll keep my level of bank investments Charlie and may even top-up as your advice drives them down.
Charlies advice stopped driving anything long ago.
how's the fear..gotta love it!
sell sell sell asap.
The "Gold Standard" must be reinstated!..The gold market must be redefined an divided into two. Real, solid, 'metallic gold' and 'paper gold'. At the moment the price is "rigged" simply by virtue of the fact that thousands of tonnes of non-existent gold are being bought and sold around the world that doesn't even exist in real metal, it only exists on worthless paper and computer screens.
US trading currently snoozing with DOW futures at 72... just wait until they wake up! Let's get this over with!
That should read "US *tradERS"
hahahah what's your rush @GS!
I want the pain to end at 4PM and not have to watch the futures all night thinking how bad Monday will be.... plus I have some nice shorts open too and can see 5400 b/w now & Monday morning! :)
Stop-loss orders must be going off like firecrackers on 4th July. Probably explains the increasing rate of the fall. Which raises the question as to whether this is a genuine fall or being engineered to trigger stop-loss orders so as to pick up stocks cheaply ahead of reporting season starting seriously next week. I know that there is a lot of uncertainty over global tensions, then local unemployment, then an incompetent gov't but the magnitude of the fall does seem a little overdone.
Could this be the beginning of the house price correction I have been hoping for for the last 2 decades ?!
I certainly hope so.
just have to wait one more decade though.
I hope so. Never in our short history have we been so in need of a recession as now.
FHB, I sure hope so.....Jump you bastards, jump.
Maybe two more decades.
it will only be a matter of time before we see a correction in house prices. even if the bubble bursts it won't be as bad as the USA since Australia doesn't have a credit crunch.
Markets dive, RBA downgraded its outlook for inflation and GDP....who would be surprised after Treasurer JOE BALONEY'S absolute sledging of our economy from day 1 after the election. Well done Tony; well done Joe; the age of enlightenment is over.
We have the problems with the European Zone, where the DAX has fallen 10% on economic performance, pressuring other markets PLUS the geo-political situation including Iraq (where and what a surprise - NOT), the Ukraine and the Middle-East among other not reported internal conflicts (whilst we have the political milage being sought over the plane going down, ignoring the political issues of that region).
PLUS we have the private debt we have (a house mortgage debt the same size as our GDP and private debt at 170% of GDP) whilst this far-right "government" plays its political game ignoring that our GDP remains below trend by over 1% (just over 2% against a long term trend of 3.5% since 1901) and the economy continues to require stimulation to keep people in employment (in an over 70% Service Industry economy) and able to service their debts.
We have a government attempting to gain political milage from a "Budget emergency" because Public debt is 13% of (languishing post 2007) GDP - not focusing on GDP growth, job creation and improving government revenues (to adjust the debt as a percentage of GDP).
What we have is the idealogical focus on "trickle down" economics (refer the Budget and the impact on who?) and the "the most effective form of regulation is self regulation" presentation, noting the position on abortion, same sex unions et al by Bernardi, Abetz, Brandis and the other hard right idealogs who dominate the Liberal Party Malcolm Fraser correctly asserts is no longer the Liberal Party.
And the markets suffer, along with our superannuation accruals as Brogden (a former Liberal Party leader - they seem to be everywhere!) refutes that we are levied with very high management fees.
When is the next election?
Because it is this mob or us.
You seriously suggesting the other disastrous mob will fix anything? They're both killing us.
The day a vested interest agrees that they are making too much money the sky will go as black as sin and the trumpets will sound to signal the end of time.
Feel better now? hate to disappoint you but you are over zealous in your attack.
You need to look no further back than the last 6 years to see what led to this situation.
Unless I am missing something you cannot spend what you haven't got!
The easiest and best solution to our immediate problem is to re vamp the budget and overall the GST, 15% on EVERYTHING, problem solved!
should read "overhaul" not "overall"
Something tells me that we could be in for a sustained downturn.
hopefully ;)
sold 60% of my holdings on Monday. There is no value in the market at the moment.
starting to feel better about SBM
Perfect timing on the shorts! Added more!
Longs are taking a beating though. The things I do for divs! Still holding heaps of cash for next week too!
(glass half-full post)
"The Commonwealth Bank financial planning scandal appears to have claimed its first executive scalp with the resignation of business and private banking boss Grahame Petersen on Friday morning."
He should be up on charges.
Banks behaving badly.
Imagine if they actually investigated the banks, insider traders, big boys etc PROPERLY. None of them would escape jail terms.
Down down, prices are down, down down, we're staying down!
all together now...down down prices are down...
down down prices are down :)
dead set, who the F, was doing the buying at 5640??
jezus christ. that last push took me out of all my shorts, now i'm watching this with a tear in my eye. it had to happen right? but a day after i got margined out.
far out.
lol..it happens!
I tried my best to warn them. Greed hey. It makes the market what it is.
Getting a margin call should be an alarm bell telling you you're trading with too much risk.
It should be you that decides you're out. Not the bank. Too risky of exactly what happened happening. Worth a thought.
"When the time comes to buy you won't want to" - out of shorts and switching to longs. I can smell the fear now.
5450 just about to be taken out, what happened to the 5500 floor?
CWN price going down has nothing to do with Vegas or Macau....Andrew Demetriou is now a director
He has to ruin everything :(
Well spotted @Wwwish, maybe he should get Hirdy's formula for young Kerry to give the SP a shot in the arm!
I was thinking to add Eddie McGuire to the line up, he knows how to kill entertainment
"RBA says rates will stay on hold, unemployment to stay high"
Housing boom!
"the central bank is not in any rush to raise rates"
Soon they will be negative. They will be paying people to overbid for already overpriced assets.
Such is the lunacy of the current economic environment.
yes agree sheer lunacy to help vested interest in property to keep them happy and kill the market with pumped up prices real estate agents never had it this good.Solution put up interest rate by 1 pct bring in property tax for foreigners not holding Australian passport to 15% like Hongkong Canada OR LIKE in Britain charge 15% for not letting property. THE BEST SOLUTION IS LIKE PAUL KEATIND DID IN 1989 REMOVE NEGATIVE GEARING . AUSTRALIA needs business development not speculative property development and the property developers who sell even before a brick is laid that's why jobless rate is 6.4pct officialy and 12 pct unooficial.
Appears to be a strong correlation between development of the ASX and the quality of outcomes coming from this government. Of late we have heard Eric 'there is a link between abortion and cancer' Abetz and George 'a website is not the same as a web address .... let me correct that again' Brandis and the list goes on.
The political games being played by our politicians, sadly, has got a great deal to do with our markets performance!
@Viking, you were lucky to get that post through. I had a post pointing out the increasingly ridiculous things that Abetz has been quoted as saying, rejected.
Rising unemployment, lower terms of trade, slower growth,....
Housing boom!
Airstrikes on militants and aid to civilians in Iraq. One very good reason why the US will never pay off its debt. Being the world's policeman, both self-appointed and expected, doesn't come cheap.
I guess there are no other nations, even the rich ones, would like to stand up for the poor folks in Iraq...
far out, this market is only moving at night. doesn't seem to be any liquidity during our session.
Over the last few days, we've seen declines in the Dow, Nikkei, Dax, and to a lesser extent ASX and FTSE. I don't think this is the start of a correction, since fear of a range of issues are at core. In my view, impending I.Rate rises in the US are paramount, but others suggest geopolitical and EU issues prevail. I think, once the fear subsides and "burn themselves out"(Johnson), the bull rally will resume, and this could mean Dow rising well beyond 17k. How much further has it got to go? Well, that's anyone's guess, but some pundits reckon it's in the early stages of a super Bull market (an extreme-long-term secular rally) that could last several years (and that's after the last five years of rises). GG
See the following:
Daxman agrees with you. The bears will be licking their wounds come 31 December. Anyone shorting this market should be very careful.
I pretty much agree with you GG. I do agree in that we are in a bull market phase at present, pretty much to 2018. However, I do think that the ASX will decouple with Americas, Asia and Europe and underperform together with South America. The market for the next couple of years will be driven by innovation, mergers and acquisitions (based on cheap money), technology driven fast past change, productivity driven growth where technology and machines will more and more replace labour. Presently, I see little opportunities for Aussie companies to shine as too little international focus, much too risk adverse management and lack of leadership.
Have I got it wrong?
Is this the month of August or May?
Gain $48000 in July
Lost $27000/- since the beginning of the month and 3 more weeks to go.
Basically all my dividend for this reporting season - wiped out.
The Bear must have woken early from its hibernation and the Bull is licking its wounds.
Unemployment - UP.
Shares - DOWN.
Dividends - SKYROCKETS ( hopefully )
MTU something is definately on the boil. No reason for this uplift over the last week. Again not complaining.
Still holding stocks but wont hurt to add a short right about now! Perhaps the first of many to come!
Mother of all or just a child one?
Nah not a mother yet! Just a little protection (or at least lessen the blow) on the way down. I hope it fails because it means my longs will be killing it! Only adding more on the way down, not up!
Big surprise. I would have expected the announcement by CFE of a 4c f/f dividend on a 16c share to cause a leap in the share price. I was expecting just 2cents f/f. Instead the share price is falling. The dividend will be paid in 2 equal amounts in Oct & Feb. CFE is flush with cash after an ATO tax dispute settlement and the receipt of funds from a Chinese company after another dispute. The company will still have $40m+ cash and other assets being developed for sale after the dividend. 4c f/f is a magnificent yield on a now 15c share so if the price falls further I will top up. Actually I'm just saying this so that all of the yield hunters out there will bid the price up to astronomical amounts so I can take the profit instead of the dividend, or both, depending on what happens.
Thanks for the update. I was watching them, but forgot they were announcing the div today. Did buy some, but a little worried about the price action though.
Maybe market perceives tough times ahead for the company, so after the div is paid may trade back around 10c.
What was the EPS?
@Wwwish EPS is irrelevant in this case. The company develops projects for sale then distributes the proceeds to shareholders.
EX Div date is 25/09
That's because it's on the ASX and not the S & P 500. In Australia they wouldn't even have known if you hadn't said anything.
REA is a great company branching internationally with great earnings growth. ...but....it's price is obscene.
Personally believe best days of REA are behind them with intensive competition coming also REA customer base not happy. Their business model is easy to copy.
Are we in recession yet?
Good time to buy, the market is on special....
Get in now before the next run up to 6300
It may go up, but it's definitely not on special, still paying a big premium.
i see what you did there.
Daxman is getting ready to buy!
@Munger: Based on PE ratios, I would say many companies are at fair value. Not sure what sectors you are seeing the premiums in?
@Irish Phil, Price on a particular day divided by historical earnings tells you nothing of the quality of earnings, debt of the company, or future prospects.
Banks for example have increased profits by cost cutting, reducing debt provisions, sourcing cheap money and killing all competition, will not be sustainable longer term. Big mistake many investors make is to project recent price action into the future, and anchor value to a companies price.
Lets hope Gold pops thru resistance at US $1315.Might be our only hope with overseas markets trending lower each night.
Bout the only thing shining at present,good to have a slice but the other market sectors are dragging the chain, even healthcare having a lacklustre week to date.
I tend to agree with you Ox!
Is this a joke? Anyone with a brain whose job wasn't to say everything's cool should have known this was coming. Migrants take 95% of jobs created since 2011. This is not news. You'd have to be asleep for the past 20 years to have missed it.
Imagine what the jobless numbers are going to look like at the end of 2016 when Holden, Ford & Toyota have all decided to leave before their 2017 end date. No point for them in hanging around. Now that's just in time for the next Federal election. There will be an extra 100,000 unemployed just from the closing of the local car industry and associated parts manufacturers. But that's what happens when you tell major employers to get lost. Woeful industrial policies coming home to roost.
The classification of "unemployed" doesn't include those who aren't on UB, those who are employed on a verrry casual basis (less than 5hrs/wk) and other such whatnot. Hidden unemployment is usually between 2 and 6% atop of the given figure. Without the equivalent increase in jobs (who knows where they'll come from - truly?), it will only get worse - (I keep telling people not to use the self-checkout - as they are putting a young 'n' out of a job).. Time to bring back National Service before it's too late - take WComp off the insurance companies and back to government, open a government bank and away we go again. ...ohhh ...and bring back the little bottles of milk at primary school whilst I'm on a wish list....
@Mitch of ACT. Abetz has blamed the opposition for not repealing the carbon tax for the rise in unemployment. The way things look now, by end of 2016 LNP might be as lucky as they were in 2007 and lose govt, so they can blame the ALP for the unemployment problem.
If the problems in Europe, Japan & USA escalate while the LNP are in govt, it could provide them the opportunity (they hope not to get) to steer the ship through a rough patch, just like the ALP encountered with GFC. Now that would blow a real hole in the budget or if not, the economy.
Even the most ardent property spruikers acknowledged the biggest risk for property growth is unemployment. Hope they've not to busy painting to read the writing on the wall.
Get that tongue out of your cheek Mark.
@Snidery Mark, went to my local Woolies the other day. A queue of 28 people waiting to use the self-service checkout because only 2 human check-out chicks were working. That was at 5:05pm. Turned around and walked out.
Don't worry Mitch, technology catches up with all of us sooner or later.
How many of you caught that drop in the Dax? Get ready for the boom time into Christmas. Yeah baby! Gift!
But Germany won the World Cup.... I thought that meant the DAX would surely keep rising? :p
This happens every August. Russia has nothing to do with it.
Remarked on it 2 days ago
Piled out anz
MOY undervalued ?
the bears are back...
indeed the bears are back. ARI on the slide ;) CWN and ARI on the watchlist, staying on the watch list :)
Indeed. Shorted CWN at 16.40. A posted. Will be one of the shorts of the year.
Daxman says buy around 5400.. hold for 5800. Can't go wrong!
Hey Al, nice short, I started shorting CWN around $18 myself, happy trading.
"Packer sinks $400m in Vegas bet"
"Sinks" being the operative word.


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