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When you can no longr innovate, you must litigate.
I went to patent something and then found out it was already patented, so now Im mad at the patent system... hmmmmmm his logic is a bit off here....
are we going to ignore patent inventions and let them be stolen for the sake of innovation? In the real world
you should pay for the struggles, pain, expense inventors go through if you want any share of them.
Stealing is a crime...
Just the opposite. As a software developer, I conclude that it fosters innovation by requiring companies to come up with their own solutions and not copy the work of others. Companies like Covanta and Land O Lakes sell consumable goods and aren't thinking like developers. I'm sure Land O Lakes would scream bloody murder if someone copied their packaging and put a logo on it calling their product "Land 0 Lakes" where the oh is replaced by a zero.
Lets see - you put the camera in the same place with the same shape - ok that could be a problemn especially since there are many other locations that the camera could be placed. But round, geez. There are twenty different tire makers out there - they make tires, they are all round. Could you see us riding around or square, octagon, or some other shape tires just because who ever made them first has an exclusive on them. I can see Apples point - they just do not want everything they do present and future to be copied line for line. I'm sure there may be other ways to zoom - such as slide left and right or diagonal just like you do up and down to read stuff. The other side of the issue, just because Apple has a ton of cash, they can waste a few billion here and there or shaking up the market. It's to their advantage. And, as one reporter noted, maybe this was more about putting folks on notice so they would not attempt to copy future products more than what they have copied in the past. Granted they are in business to make money. But like Microsoft in years past with software, Apple want to be the "do all" for the phone market.
Microsoft licensed some of iOS patented technology for Window's phones Folks. Samsung had an opportunity to do the same, but refused Apple.
Interesting to see how these court battles go hand in hand with country/part of the world they have been fighting at; example S.Korea court fines Apple, Tokyo court rejects Apple infringement claims, California court fines Samsung. A bit to obvious not to be true
" case was emblematic of a system in which some technology patents are broad enough that almost any patent could be accidentally copied."
No it's not. It's emblematic of a company copying patents deliberately and systematically.
Check in with some CIOs of some companies where real innovation occurs - perhaps they will have a different idea about patent protection.
Get real. Patent officers examined the submissions, and granted the patents. The court held them valid. Samsung was found to violate. If we don't protect innovation, we won't have any. This is all about price. These folks love the Apple features, but want it cheap, like a Rolex knockoff from China.
I'm so sorry Apple can't give away it's breakthrough technology for free. Don't like it?
Use a Blackberry. Apple's not suing RIM. Or didn't you & the CIO take note?
Apple does not have patent on pinch to zoom. Whatever it has can have workaround.
Like Google does.
These people need to get some sound legal advice. Although it was mentioned a lot in the context of other features I have read that Apple doesn't have a patent on just the pinch-to-zoom feature.
The problem seems to be that the patent office is too aggressive about granting patents. There was a clear change in attitudes about this some years back. I don't know what caused the change. I imagine it will be difficult to put the genie back in the bottle and go back to a more stringent test before granting a patent.
It seems that now the only hurdle is the lack of prior art. There used to be a stronger requirement of the idea being "non-obvious". This has been watered down by Congress itself.
I believe that the opposite is true, and that competitive companies will hire more creative people and encourage innovation in their own ranks. These applications that are now "obvious" are only so because Apple has done so well with them. They're obvious in the way that can openers and zippers are obvious to all of us. We all see things and say "Why didn't I think of that?" and the reality is that we're all not creative enough to come up with original ideas. Many have forgotten how dismissive so many of the "then successful" phone companies were of the iPhone. They made fun of the name, and said that Apple would never survive in such a competitive business. Now that they've been prooven wrong, Apple's creations have become "obvious." How about giving credit where credit is due.
3 CIOs - And you generalize? Please rmember the lead juror was an engineering and an Android user who owns no Apple products. OBTW - the lead juror also has patents to his name.
What KevK said - why are the CIOs from Covanta and Land O' Lakes being interviewed for this article, rather than, say, a CIO of any tech company?
That said, our patent system seems to be broken, clearly favoring the corporations large enough to pay for teams of lawyers. Imagine how much more Apple and Samsung could be innovating if they were spending a large portion of their lawyers' salaries on engineers and other developers..
apple will be the new monopolist in the 21st century.
The real problem isn't innovation it's the broadness in which patents can cover without being truly specific. I am all for defense of specific design patents, but seriously this is a pissing match between to CEO's that no one wins. Apple is at the forefront of innovation, but they have copies just as much as any of the others and have somehow deemed the owner of some things that they had no rights to. The people that should be the most upset about this should be the consumer because not only did Apple defend their "patents" they essentially said that all consumers were to stupid to know the difference between the two brands. That the similarities were so much that the "average consumer" couldn't tell the difference is ridiculous. We all know logo's we've been trained to know by everything around us. Clearly the patent system is flawed, but so is the mentality from these companies regarding their consumers. Give my 10 year old any of the phones Apple claims to be a copy and I guarantee that they can tell the difference.
i believe that if patents are to thoroughly enforced such as the smartphone would be aloud only to one company would be over abuse but the current work and note in the article would create more competition and creativy
Apple isn't innovative, they don't invent anything. Everything they've created can be traced back to another product that has already been on the market. They are just great at making their case to a consumer, a court, a jury(all consumers). I wish people would stop talking about Apple like they invented the wheel. They invented great packaging.
I think Apple has patented the use of 2 fingers on a mobile device. I guess if we used a finger and our nose Apple could not sue. Its like the older patents about using a mouse and menu to control just about any software interface. The US patent office is useless. Are we supposed to pretend like we only have one finger ?
So inability to make carbon copies of Apple products will stifle innovation?? Perhaps it will force others to make something new instead.
The decision of the court has sanctioned not Samsung but the whole Android community. It was the most stupid decision that has ever been taken. They should have had a more partial verdict to avoid the collapse of innovation. Sooner, we will only be able to buy only Apple product, running on apple OS system, ... That is really scary.
The real problem is racism in the US jury. Though whites want to win at the expense of the minorities, when a bully such as Apple won using racism, then they are worried. White jurors always find minorities not credible and white credible. Goes with the turf.
Apple will collapse under the weight of its own hubris.
a lot of butthurt Fandroids in here. LMAO.
Reminds me of 1984. Commercial.
...except apple is now big brother
@John Chen
Yep. The racist Korean judge Lucy koh and many of the racist asian jurors were very clearly siding with Samsung far too much in what SHOULD have been an open and shut case in favor of Apple.
In Korea, you'll never get a white judge, even though in America you get a Korean judge. Strange how racist Korea is huh?
In Korea, 100% of cars are made in Korea because Korean people are SO racist that they would only ever buy a korean made car.
I think the patent office is full of booboo. Have you seen some of the idiotic things that have a patent?
between this and the collusion on the wireless side to sell scarcity of data at ever increasing prices, It doesn't really make sense to be a consumer in this market anymore.
I agree that a lot of the blame should go to the US Patent Office for granting the frivolous patents these absurd lawsuits are based on in the first place, and, above them, to Congress, for causing and/or failing to address gaping issues with the US Patent code. Systemically, one unseen factor behind these frivolous patent grants from the USPTO, besides incompetence or even what might be regarded as collusion with prominent US companies (nothing new here, ditto for Congress), is a global patent arms race between nations, most notably China and the US. The general strategy seems to be: grant them, we will see which ones stick in the world's courts later. In that light, it's not hard to understand why Apple has a very tough time prevailing with its frivolous patents (ex: slide-to-unlock, rubberbanding, and other look and feel patents) in other countries' courts. In the US, things are much easier for Apple, esp. with seemingly partial, and in Lucy Koh's case, glaringly inexperienced ( only 2 years as a judge!! ) judges. Samsung was facing an uphill battle from the start, since our whole is system is rigged in favor of big and preferably US, corporations -- consumers and every one else be damned.
When you can no longer copy, you complain about how being forced to be original limits innovation.
Sigh, I wish there was an overhaul of these patent processes in this country. It was scary to read in an article that the lead juror completely ignored Apple patents' prior art because, apparently, 'the code cannot run in both CPUs if interchanged'. Wow, and to think of this person leading the bunch is laughable.
Japan, the UK, Netherlands and Australian courts have sensibly thrown out Apple's claims. Even the Korean court (Samsung's home turf) gave an amicable decision.
Let common sense prevail.
Just a wild guess, but I'm thinking US built cars would cost a lot more in Korea than most Korean built cars? I'm guessing a lot of Koreans would like to drive F-150's or Mustangs if the price was right.
Yes, Samsung did copy much of the look and workflow of iOS and should be fined for it. However, the issue at hand is how Apple (and others for that matter) has received numerous patents for ideas which existed prior to iOS and for concepts and designs which should be standardized. The article below has some great information regarding Apple's patents and the patent system.
Apple's been copied from day one (Windows).
Every inovation they come up with ends up on someone elses device (or OS).
Like them or not, they have the right to say enough is enough.
Considering Apple has lost every other patent war around the globe, I think we have a right to be skeptical about the decision the US jury reached.
The jurors have made apple unpalatable. It is users are the ultimate losers.
It seems to me clear Samsung copied, and it seems clear the US legal system backs Apple on their patents. No point arguing over is Apple awesome, or is Samsung unable to innovate. The only real question is if that patent system is good for society over all. Personally I think the definition of "non-obvious" is waaaay to loose.
Windows copied from Apple ? Apple copied from Xerox. Get your facts straight. Every invention depends on previous inventions. If you think someone shoulb be able to patent gestures, then I have one for you.
So Apple claims a large screen on a rectangle device with rounded corners is their idea? I think Etch-a-sketch should sue the hell out of Apple.
I'm still perplexed at how all the look and feel patents of Apples were withheld but the more technical patents that Samsung fought back were rejected . Perhaps the more technical the patent is, the hard it is to defend?
You know what people copy? Good ideas. If coming up with a good idea is really hard (making cold fusion work) I'm ok with the developer having exclusive rights for a while, nobody else was likely to come up with it soon anyway. If the idea is really simple (a rounded rectangle), it's stupid to force everyone else to use something less optimal for ages (or pay a fee for the right to use it). Things in between - are worth arguing about.
[\Rant] Imagine Apple as an automobile manufacturer... It would sue everyone for placing a platform over wheels!
Judgements for high-tech cases need jury that consists of people from the field. Randomly picking a farmer or a plumber to seal the faith of a highly technical issue leads to this... No offense, but common sense these days is very subject dependent. Pinch-to-zoom, swipe to navigate etc... are common navigation gestures that any touch screen device needs for navigation. And, rectangle with rounded edges and touch screen way predate iPhones and iPods... [/end rant]
yah, well I patented "point & click" you penny-pinching a--hats, so everyone using a pointing device and happily clicking away owe me big $$$$.....
is that what its coming to? is that what people should ALLOW it to come to?? REALLY???
Although I don't like when government gets involved, I do think a committee must be implemented to monitor the Patent system.
Well written story. Finally, someone presents opinions as such and facts as fact. We need more stories (blogs) like this one. Wish there was a bit more though to this one though. How about a followup?
You need to think back to 2007. The mobile internet experience was severely lacking and the big thing out there was Blackberry with email. Apple introduced the iPhone and completely redefined the category, putting a complete computer system in the palm of your hand and through much touchscreen development made it a very nice user experience. Needless to say, they were copied. To say it is obvious now in 2012 misses the point that it wasn't obvious before the iPhone and Apple really did do an incredible amount of development to bring it off. It's alright to copy, just wait 20 years for the patent to expire.
While in college I used to believe that a patent imply something special non obvious and the things that are patented cannot be patented and in software if a feature can be written by others more efficiently we welcomed it with respect not contempt.
After this case I feel that patent are now quiet obvious; they are not innovations but just a way of doing things. They are promoting monopoly rather than creativity. Other previous candidates are
horizontal touch ; vertical touch, single click, double click should have been patented.
Car maker should have patented the four tyre car design or three tyre design or parallel wheel design.
This foolishness or the right can go on and on. I seriously believe that US patent system is corrupt as there are incident in the past when the patent has been given to obvious/open knowledge in the Asian countries.
Note : I may be biased as my country till recently did n't allow product patent and only allow process.
The argument is really for Apple's right in ownership over simplicity. Should hand gestures or rectangular shape be owned as a patent? Hand gestures are similar to that of sign language, and rectangular shapes to some learned growing up.
Patent is patent, intellectual propriertorship. if they want to copy, then pay for the license. Be creative not copying.
"Erstwhile innovators will be hesitant to bring new products to market for fear building features already covered by patents."
Wait a minute. If they are 'innovators' and do not want to build things that are 'already covered by patents' then they are not true innovators. If there are existing patents that they know about then it forces them to be MORE innovative and think outside the box (i.e. exiting patents). Doesn't it?
a loooooooot of nonsense being spit out here...... people really ought to be more informed before writing this crap......
Patents always forsake competition to reward innovation. I find chief executives who complain about not being able to ride on the coattails of innovators very childish.
Good article. It is absolutely true. And I would question Jim's comment.
You seem to be saying that Apple's browser was the big thing that they invented. A broad statement like "putting a complete computer system in the palm of your hand" is very vague and really doesn't mean anything. What was their huge contribution? Was it a good browser? There were decent browsers before. Was it apps? There were apps before, and Steve originally shunned the app system on iPod. Just because they put things together in a nice package doesn't mean the created each (or any) of the components. iPhone was not the first touch screen device. It was not the first to do pinch to zoom.
The point you're missing is, why should Apple own a complete monopoly on such things that it did not invent?
Slide to unlock is patented? It's a touchscreen, there aren't a lot of options other than tapping and sliding. Same with pinch to zoom, which is no different than rotating the zoom button on a camera to zoom in or out. Even if Android phones were to cease to exist, I would never spend a penny on a POS Apple product, give me a flip phone instead.....or wait......is the ability for a device to fold patented?
Patents are for hardware...you patent a "Thing" Ideas like pinch to zoom should not be patentable. There are 100 different ways to implement that code. Copyright would be more applicable.
i agree..how the hell can apple patent "look and feel" of a rectangle? thats just stupid
I get a real laugh at some of the articles and commentators. Apple didn't invent the patent system. This is nothing new. The system of IP Rights including copyright and trade secret is the backbone of research and development in everything from farm chemicals to pharmaceuticals. If there was no assurance of protection R&D would die out very quickly.
that some people don't know this is telling of how poor the general American public is educated in business principles.
please refrain from commenting unless you do a little research yourself. The media really has the fandroids here riled up. First of all, apple was not asserting any "pinch to zoom" patent. The media is misleading you. The patent they are referring to is '915 patent, or claim 8 which stated that: to infringe the patent, the jury was required to find:
A machine readable storage medium storing executable program instructions which when executed cause a data processing system to perform a method comprising:
receiving a user input, the user input is one or more input points applied to a touch-sensitive display that is integrated with the data processing system;
creating an event object in response to the user input;
determining whether the event object invokes a scroll or gesture operation by distinguishing between a single input point applied to the touch-sensitive display that is interpreted as the scroll operation and two or more input points applied to the touch-sensitive display that are interpreted as the gesture operation;
issuing at least one scroll or gesture call based on invoking the scroll or gesture operation;
responding to at least one scroll call, if issued, by scrolling a window having a view associated with the event object; and
responding to at least one gesture call, if issued, by scaling the view associated with the event object based on receiving the two or more input points in the form of the user input.
This is a specific problem that apple solved in a specific way. Samsung worked around it with some phones using two finger scrolling which is beyond the scope of this patent, and therefore, was found to not infringe. Point is, there are others ways to do it, but SMASUNG CHOSE TO COPY IT on some phones .....
end of story here folks
I feel like the cell phone market is flooded right now anyway. If all manufacturers actually slow down and maybe make 1,2, or even 3 phones a year instead of 10 and 12, then maybe they could spend a lot more time making them unique.
Pinch to zoom, rounded corners, slide to unlock are not innovations. It's a joke that they can pattent those kinds of things. Pattent laws were design to motivate thought and research, which helps innovation. The way it is now, it's doing the reverse. It absolutely stifles innovation. If a company can make a really good product but can't include obivious and basic designs then they may never go ahead with it. Things need to be changed or we're going to slow our progress as a technological sociality big time. I don't want to wait 10 years to see a product that would be out in 3.
Paul's comment on 2:01 pm August 31, 2012 said, "I think Apple has patented the use of 2 fingers on a mobile device. I guess if we used a finger and our nose Apple could not sue..."
After reading the article posted by RGuptan on 1:50 pm August 31, 2012, "Apple does not have patent on pinch to zoom. Whatever it has can have workaround. http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/13/apple-awarded-limited-patent-on-pinch-to-zoom/"
Looks like Apple can still sue if you use a finger and your nose...
The US patent office and its numerous software 'patents', granted for a cut/bribe, are the laughing stock of the whole world, such 'patents' are considered invalid once you reach civilization.
scrolling with one finger was patented. rectangular in white color was patented. these are ridiculous to say the least... this seems to be an abuse of patent laws - thanks to the diligent lawyers of apple. if a round steering wheel on cars had been patented, should others have invented triangular or octagonal steering wheels for their cars? i am not a lawyer and use an iphone and mac computer but i began feeling disgusted with what apple has been doing lately.
"Patents are for hardware…you patent a "Thing" Ideas like pinch to zoom should not be patentable."
You would think ... But not so. Business processes are patentable. Even life forms are patentable. There are patented mice. There are patented techniques.
Who cares what CIOs think, and land of lakes is a brand of butter and not a big player in cell phones. poor article
Pattenting the ovbious implements to an obvious design feature should also not be allowed. For example certicoms patten on point compression for elliptic curve cryptography is a joke. It's like allowing a company to pattent mathematical reduction.
It is not the actual one finger scroll that is patented, but the way the machine recognizes between a "scroll" and "other interaction" that is important. Everyone needs to stop, take a deep breath, and realize that apple did not patent the "idea" of these things, but the actual detection and implementation of them on the device which was either not done before, or not done well enough. If other companies think they can do it BETTER, then THAT is innovation, if they just want to use apple's system, then pay the piper, if they want to do it the way it was before apple, and risk user experience at the expense of research money or royalties, that is also an option. Wake UP PEOPLE.! haha
You have a smart phone, and someone is calling you, how would you design the user interface to recognize the phone call and interpret whether the user wants to answer or not. You have a clearly defined problem here. ARE YOU TELLING ME THERE IS ONLY ONE SOLUTION? and just because apple chose the "slide to unlock" feature to solve this problem, that this should be "intuitive" or "obvious"... Come on people. I have seen other ways, none of them are as nice, user friendly, fun, or cool looking, but that is called innovation..!! come up with a better way.. If my job depended on it, I could give you 50 different ways to do and and make it look nice... But no, companies like Samsung are too lazy, or too dumb too cheap to come up with innovative ideas... so they choose to copy.....
@ Let me give you all an example
You are talking bollocks mate- to quote your own statement
" how would you design the user interface to recognize the phone call and interpret whether the user wants to answer or not"
What if someone has already patented a phone recognizing an incoming call and shows the contact name rather than the number on the display much the same way Apple has patented touching a number in say an sms to call it ???
What do you do then smartarse ????
now you are the one talking bollocks my friend. You obviously are grasping at straws here and are referencing completely different issues... A classic strategy when someone has no proper response... if there is a proper patent that involved innovative thinking and plenty of research dollars, then PAY UP, or work around...!!! hilarious..!!
Im guessing you are also pissed cause your quality of life is less based on having to type in those numbers instead of your "smart phone" recognizing them as such and allowing you to simply click and call... that's unfortunate...
@lrd555 >> Apple's not suing RIM. Or didn't you & the CIO take note?<>Microsoft licensed some of iOS patented technology for Window's phones Folks. Samsung had an opportunity to do the same, but refused Apple.<<
I heard Apple was never ever interested in licensing any part of their touchscreen technolog design, especially to those using Android OS ?! Actually Microsoft makes more money by via of licensing fees it receives from Android set makers than it makes on Windows Phone ! It's popular misconception that Android devices pay nothing and provide everything by copying. There is lot of 'value' exchange that happens in Android camp too.
Wonder why Nokia or Microsoft did not sue anyone so far, for copying the concept of 'copy/cut' and 'paste' text across applications ? So much so that, but for competing phones doing it already for years together, Apple would not have even thought about it for the second/third iteration of iOS !
As a happy Samsung phone user, I felt agitated by just one thing ! It was almost like Ben Jonson losing out on doping charge in 100m sprint. Given his apparent stamina, training etc he projected the image of success and did seem a winner material; why on earth did he do that to give it all away ?!
I would have anyway bought a S2 even if it was a perfect rectangle with sharp edges (instead of curves in end) and regardless of whether the unlocking mechanism was slide based on not. It packs in so much value for money that these trivia dissipate instantly.
While Android's OS has come of age - starting with deplorably poor 1.x till the awesomely superb 4.x.x while iOS without widgets, poor notification bar and mind-numbing 'click home button for every damn thing' approach is achingly boring. With S3, Samsung has already departed enough.
Come on LG and Prada, take a bite of the Apple!
Apple should try to make better phone, not suing samsung! Apple copied Sony's design for iphone long time ago. You are the first copy cat not Samsung! Round shape phone already has made from Samsung in 2007. Grow up Apple! Don't act like a kid and stop dirty play! If you want to do better, make a better phone with good technology! Apple didn't invent anything but samsung did. Apple, you are just package maker!
Well, I doubt this verdict will stand as the jury foreman has been making the media circuit, & flapping his jaws. He explained to the other members of the jury how patents work, as he holds one. The other jury members accepted his input as he was a patent holder.
The man told them the prior art didn't count because the earlier software could run on the newer hardware???
Now had this tool kept his flapping pie hole shut, Apple's win might stand as I doubt the judge would invalidate the patents. She'd have let a higher court court kick Apple in the tail. Now I think she'll declared a mistrial & your tax dollars can pay for a new trial.
The obese matron is still reclining in her bed, the show hasn't started you have time to get your popcorn.
Sorry, that should be couldn't run on the new hardware...
Patents provide for innovation and profits too. How fast we innovate is not the most important thing to everybody.
CFOs and MBAs are to blame for not hiring engineers to innovate. They want to either buy or steal existing ideas. The patent system actually works, and did work in the Samsung case, which pisses CFOs and "CIOs" (whatever that is) off.
From the backlash from general pubic it is very clear Apple is the loser in the lawsuit. Many surveys and general chatter across internet and other channels show public disgust growing with the bully tactics by Apple.
First of all iPhone has lagged the high end Android phones: no 4G LTE, smaller and fragile screen, closed system and the list goes on and on. The public has been waiting for a long time(relatively speaking) for the next iPhone with innovative technology.
So far nothing, nada, from Apple.
The only news now a days about Apple is that it is suing one competitor or the other across the globe.
This is a clear sign that Apple's days are numbered. It has just become a giant patent troll, nothing more.
Some one should patent the process to patent BS and how to sue others. Then he/she can sue Apple for stealing their idea.
Are these patents' documentation available online - is anyone able to inspect these independently. I am curious how a simple design like a bounce / pinch can be patented.
@Anne Jinneer, the Apple patents on pinch-to-zoom and rectangular form factors with rounded edges are absurd. The patent on pinch-to-zoom in particular is analogous to only Apple being allowed to design a car with a circular steering wheel, while car manufacturers must "innovate" and find another sub-optimal solution.
The irony here is that not only did Apple not invent any of the concepts they're claiming in their patents, but they were late to the party. Samsung, LG, Palm, HTC, Nokia and SonyEricsson were delivering full-screen touch phones with rounded corners and colorful icons back when Apple's hottest product was outdated iMac computers shipping in multicolor cases.
That's what makes this case even more galling. Apple is a newcomer to the industry, borrowed most of the design of the iPhone from competing products, and is suing the companies that created the industry claiming that they no longer have the right to use the common concepts that they themselves pioneered.
You people are uneducated, yet carry authority to have a strong opinion because you have a (competitor's) machine in your pocket, as armchair critics of what should and should not be patented. most of you are also very misinformed about what was at issue in the lawsuit.
"it's a mistake to think that Apple won a patent for "rounded corners." What they showed wasn't a single infringement, but that Samsung had slavishly copied the physical design, icon design, home page design, and packaging design of the iPhone — and then left behind an email trail showing what they'd done. That's why Samsung lost, not because their phones have rounded corners."
"The pinch-to-shrink and spread-to-zoom feature of the iPhone isn't part of the case at all. If you read through the patents you'll find descriptions of lots of things, including pinch-to-zoom, but don't let that throw you. What matters is what's in the actual claims * * *"
And if you have ever filed a patent, the claims are the big job in the filing and where the protections lie. And developing an idea and filing a patent is not cheap - it is EXTREMELY expensive, risky, and displaces something else you could be doing for money. As such, Intellectual Property is not free for freeloader business people who only want to steal and put money into their own selfish pockets. They need to hire engineers and scientists, take risks, and innovate...THEMSELVES.
"Samsung had slavishly copied the physical design, icon design, home page design, and packaging design of the iPhone"
Palm wants its royalties for the iPhone physical design (copied from the Lifedrive), icon and home page design (copied from the Treo) and packaging design.
They also want huge royalties for the mute switch (which was invented by Palm), the iTunes sync cable (a clone of HotSync), over-the-air updates (first introduced by Palm) and multitasking on a smartphone (another Palm innovation).
If Palm had decided to go the Apple route and litigate rather than try to compete with Apple, the same apologists on here blogging ceaselessly for Cupertino would be screaming with rage about Palm blocking release of new iPhone innovations and "holding up the industry."
The Apple apologists want things both ways. For Apple, it can access and copy any ideas it wants from prior players like Palm, RIM, Nokia, LG, Samsung and Sony Ericsson without any penalties whatsoever. Once Apple releases its spin on a common concept like packaging, touchscreens, or color icons, however, it then becomes an "Apple innovation" that the companies who invented it (like Samsung) can no longer use.
As a property owner, it's up to you to protect your property.It doesn't matter if you are Palm, Samsung, Nokia, Mot, or anyone else.
I own intellectual property. Damned if you're going to take it from me for free, with the blood, sweat, stress, risk, and money I have put into it. The mere filing of each one is over 20 grand.
The patent laws are fine and they are working. Only the thieves want them changed.
I have brought iphone like devices in Japan and Korea before Apple even made phones.
When you mention, "the physical design, icon design, home page design, and packaging design of the iPhone," you are referring to the "look and feel" of Apple's phone. This is what is better known as trade dress, or the frills added to the standard phone form, which identify the product as one of Apples's. Apple succeeded in it's argument as to it's design patent by wrongly using trade dress rules which fall under trademark law, which are different than patent laws and apply different standards.
The standard in trade dress/trademark is the likelihood of confusion which use a comparison method, while the threshold for a design patent is whether that is both novel and non-obvious.
Apple somehow was able to win it's patent infringement claim by using the trademark standard on both it's argument and the jury instructions.
Furthermore, Apple also managed to get a design patent on the standard shape of a mobile phone with registering it's trade dress, which only include the color, black, the nipple on front and the Apple logo. All the Apple attorneys had to do to achieve this was make the patent description sound neato by elaborating with a bunch of frilly words.
The shape of the mobile phone (including touchscreen phones) has been around for ages and the standard in shape. Just imagine if creators could patent the numbers 1 to 10, or in this instance, the general shape, as Apple has somehow managed. Each phone created would either have to be progressively bigger to no end, or shaped in ways which are no longer functional.
For instance, can a handbag maker include the general shape of a handbag if it's created using specific parameters? What about a car?
On top of this
Yes; I'm aware Apple sued for both infringement of patent and trade dress. Backward logic is used throughout Apple's entire argument and position, Apple was able to successfully patent non-novel functions, which are also common functions, ie industry standard. What should be protected is it's own code/programming (under copyright), as there are many ways to create the same function using different programming. In fact, the same function is created on two supposedly, different operating systems.
This case is absurd and people need to take a hard look at the patent system. That is the reason the attorneys at the USPTO are paid, is it not? Apples seems to be run entirely by lawyers, which are of the type that learned the law to bypass the law, rather than to follow it. IP laws need to be streamlined with the three subjects, closely considered together, rather than separate. If trademark laws can be used for patents, than the patent ownership protections should commence once the invention is first put out there and rewarded to that invention's creator, just like the publication rules of trademark.
TO add, one area I I do agree with you, is that it's the USPTO that needs to hire some real engineers and scientists, in thinking about the laws in place and application, for the same purpose the laws were created: to encourage innovation. Apparenly, the scientific background necessary for a patent lawyer is not enough.
Sure, Apple may be following the current IP laws set in place, but it (the attorneys) are also clearly abusing it.
"As a property owner, it's up to you to protect your property.It doesn't matter if you are Palm, Samsung, Nokia, Mot, or anyone else."
Not really.
Those other manufacturers realized that common elements like glass, rounded corners, etc. were not "property."
They invented them. Apple then lifted those common design elements that had existed for over a decade and patented them in a cynical effort to abuse the IP system to limit competition.
You claim this is "protecting innovation."
Can't have it both ways. If the "property" that Apple "stole" was indeed developed by those companies (as it was), then Apple has no legitimate claim on it. That sorta renders your claim that Apple is "protecting its R&D" rather absurd -- they didn't develop any of those concepts, so they spent no R&D on them in the first place.
Rather, they benefited from Palm, Motorola, and RIM R&D while simultaneously demanding an exclusive right to use common concepts they had no hand in developing.
"Damned if you're going to take it from me for free, with the blood, sweat, stress, risk, and money I have put into it."
If, like Apple did, you simply an existing public domain concept and then patented it, it's not "your" property, and you invested no blood, sweat, stress, risk or money in it, short of making an illegitimate claim on inventing it at the US PTO. All your dramatic language and self-justifying rhetoric doesn't change the simple fact that prior art invalidates your claim.
Gee, did anyone ever hear of licensing patented technology devises rather than stealing the idea/concept, etc.?
Kippleman has no idea what innovation and competition is. Innovation is developing a new idea that draws the public, not copying an already existing one and tweaking it. The effect is just the opposite, the ruling doesn't stifle competion and innovation, it encourages originality and innovation.
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I clicked on something while browsing and before I know it all my desktop icons seem to be highlighted. I cannot get the transparent background again.. Anyone knows how to correct this ? I tried right clicking on Mycomputer -Properties-Advanced-Settings and unchecking the drop shadows for icons box. Doesnt seem to do anything.. Please help !! I am using Windows XP .
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I also have Windows XP but I have my appearance set up as "Windows Classic Style" and not the default "XP" style. I've attached a JPG file showing my set ups under the "appearance" tab in Settings, Control panel, display. The background of my desktop icons is transparent.
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Steps for making Icon Text Transparent.
1. Click on Start
1. Choose Control Panel
2. Click on System Icon
3. Choose the "Advanced" tab, click "Settings" under "Performance"
4. Under the "Visual Effects" tab I Chose (checked) Use Drop Shadows for Icon Labels
1. Click Start, and then click Control Panel.
2. Click Performance and Maintenance, and then click System.
3. On the Advanced tab, click Settings under Performance.
4. Click to clear the Use drop shadows for icon labels on the desktop check box, click Apply, and then click OK two times.
5. Close Control Panel
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Thanks eggalegga and usejeff, but both of your suggestions didnt work. I am still trying to figure it out
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While this doesn't actually fix the problem, it can make it invisible. Select a photo that isn't huge for your background photo. Don't stretch or tile it. Select a background color, which will appear behind the photo. Then just set the background color for the icons to match the color you chose. They will no longer appear highlighted.
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Thanks, it worked for me, but I did not figure out where Performance and Maintenance icon in Control Panel is?
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1. Right click on desktop> properties
2. Click on 'desktop' tab on the top> click on 'customize desktop' button at the bottom
3. click on 'Web' tab on the top> uncheck the check box 'Lock desktop items' > click 'ok'
Hope it helps!
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Hi, did you ever figure out how to de-highlight the desktop icon text?? I just have been faced with the same problem, it happened out of the blue, so to speak! I've tried the various remedies to no avail. If you cracked the code, please tell me how it worked for you!
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I Googled "xp desktop icons transparent text"
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Too funny, I did this yesterday but on purpose so that my icons on the desktop would be locked;meaning, they don't move after I reboot.
Right click on your desktop, choose Arrange Icons By, then make sure there is NO check on Lock Web Items on Desktop.
Let me know if this helps!!!!!!!!!
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Can anyone tell me how to do this? I need the test label backgrounds to be transparent and the text to be black. I'm sure this is possible, I just can't figure out how to do it. Any help will be appreciated, and thanks in advance.
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If you're using windows xp:
Control Panel->System->Advanced Tab->Performance Settings->Make sure "Use drop shadows for icon labels on the Desktop" is checked.
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1. Lines, slopes
One of the vital elements of the image is the outline of the object, i.e. solid line, which separates the object from the rest of the image. When working with normal-sized graphics, the designer occasionally cares about highlighting of objects with complementary outlines. This is not needed because of the scale: even low contrast objects do not blur into a single whole. Icon graphics is different. Two solutions are possible: either object and background colors must be from opposite sides of the color chart, or the object must be separated from the background by contrast lines and shadows. I would like to discuss lines deeper.
If we return again to the large scale graphics, we see that in order to highlight edges, we can use all (even the most complicated) angles, Bezier splines and borders. In any case, the line will look ideal due to anti-aliasing. When decreasing the image scale to the size of an icon, situation changes dramatically. When every single pixel is vitally valuable and can change the overall look of the icon, anti-aliasing is simply not applicable. It comes that you should consider the possible line angles.
The slope you choose for the line, specifies the step of this line. This means that each line is made of primary elements, the union of which determines its neatness and esthetics.
For example, a 18-degree angle contains many small 3-pixel lines connected using a 1-pixel downshift:
This is how nearly each line looks like. Primary element followed by joining followed by second primary element. Unfortunately, not each angle creates lines that look look attractive and not annoying.
For example, look at 25 and 20-degree slopes:
It can be easily seen which line is more appealing. The 25-degree slope makes a line containing even 2-pixel primary elements. The 20-degree slope has a basic element consisting of three parts: 3-pixel, 3-pixel and 2-pixel. The slope is more complicated, thus, when not combined by other visual effects, it creates a feeling of untidiness: the primary elements have contrast which is too obvious to escape the human eye.
Here we can come to the first conclusion. The most "correct" angles must make as simple basic elements as possible. therefore, the ideal angles are 0 and 90 degrees. In them, 1-pixel basic elements are combined without downshift and form smooth lines. Less perfect are slopes which form primary elements of 1, 2, 3 pixel with 1-pixel downshift. Of course, the lines can not be even, but the human brain will process the image and present to the viewer what you intended to show to him. Also, the mentioned angles can be considered correct (but at a stretch): slopes with primary elements consisting of unequal lines shifted by more than 1 pixel.
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Now we can discuss another problem. In the previous paragraph, I purposely defined angles with primary elements of 1, 2 and 3 pixels as correct. Such small lines, especially when a great number of them is combined, appear as solid. But what happens if we change the basic elements to 10 or 20 pixels?
Here is an example:
It can be obviously seen that the line loses its solidness. It is not a single line now; it is a combination of several lines, situated near each other. Hardly any designer wants its creation to look inconsistent. So, we come to another rule: if you use minimal angles, which produse long basic elements, it must be reasoned and used with great caution.
And, finally, the third aspect I wanted to tell about lines. I did write that the basic element should be as plain as it can.
For instance, a 25-degree slope can be produced in the two (of course more of them exists) following ways:
In the first picture the basic element is a 2-pixel line. In the second case, it is made of three elements: 3-pixel, 2-pixel and 1-pixel. The same angle but the image is different. The complex primary element made the line untidy.
This examples can be produced for about any slope, so in your works, make sure to simplify as much as possible.
2. Color
It can be stated without an exaggeration that the color is the leading element of your work; not suiting or badly balanced colors can kill even the best idea. What can we say about the color in miniature graphics?
First, there is a clear rule: if the image looks bad when converted to monochrome, it means the colors that were selected are wrong. This rule is true not exclusively for icons but for the whole graphic design.
Second, you will probably unable to use safe RGB. Of course, you can select GIF colors only, but this ties you hand and foot. Gradients, shadows, blending and many other tricks will not be accessible to you.
Third, try to enlarge the portion of "plain" color. The more evenly colored parts without diffusion and jumps your picture has, the more neat it appears. Pictograms are too small and the over usage of special filters makes the image look messy.
Fourth, gradients. This is a wonderful tool which can change the appearance of any picture. Besides visuals, gradients are a perfect way to get rid of the "broken line" look (lines with too long basic elements). But be careful when using them because too much gradients can kill the flat color, and be unable to fit into the gif palette.
Fifth, shadows and highlights. All rules for applying shades and highlights in icon making are totally identical to the rules of the overall graphic design. The only thing I would like to note: create everything yourself. Don't apply effects, make all shadows and highlights in a different layer and then edit its transparency. If applying effects, you rarely can predict what the result will be. It is unfavorable when you can't control the making of a composition. It is awful if you don't control it if creating miniatures.
And, lastly, sixth. Tinting is the main detail of pictogram creation, which greatly affects the visual appearance of the composition. If the green human eye in the icon is sized 1 pixel, increase the color saturation. For example, instead of 0, 131, 159 choose 71, 195, 242. It doesn't matter that the human eye never has this color; in the first example it will look like a gray dot, and in the second one it will really be a green eye.
Thoroughly control the image, do not allow the visual tricks to ruin your work. It is OK if something is not perfect technically, but the whole image must be flawless.
As an example, I pictured the pack of juice standing in front of me. The image has plain color, gradients with broken lines, shades and highlights and tints.
3. Font
If I talked about something bigger than miniature creation, this part wouldn't fit into an entire book, but the resolution of pictures restricts fonts too.
The resolution of letters is the leading aspect as opposed to their beauty. Almost in any case, unless the letters are the main part of the composition, the text size must be reduced to the largest extent possible.
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SO i havent been on here blogging or even visiting my teams for a very long time. i feel so gulity about all that. I joined a group and was uber excited to be in a challenge and i flaked on them (sorry)
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i got all my exercise in today and my kiddo is taking a nap.. so when i get bored ill surf the net.. but for clothes lol..
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