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3 Parks near Springfield, Illinois
Rochester, Illinois 6.53 miles SE
Chatham, Illinois 8.93 miles SW
Petersburg, Illinois 18.23 miles NW
Tallula, Illinois 18.44 miles NW
Springfield, Illinois (map) | (217) 524-9894
Sites: 300 | Latest Rate: $20.00 | 32 Reviews
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Sep 2015 - $20.00
We stayed here 2 nights to visit historic sites in the area. It was after dark when we arrived and finding the campground in this large facility proved challenging. Once there, a number is posted to call Security for check-in. The guy was friendly and helpful, staying until we got into our site. The lot is paved and level with electric and water at the back of your site. Grassy, more shaded sites are slightly more hilly and some shaded. We enjoyed our stay in Springfield and would stay at this campground again. We stayed in a motorhome. - prius10
Sep 2015 - $15.00
We always stay here for a month stay because we were from the area. Site is on blacktop. Easy to get into, clean, quiet and staff is great. We have been staying here for several years and have never had any problems. They do have grassy sites but have never parked there. - bella127
Sep 2015 - $20.00
We camped here for the Springfield mile and the campgrounds were very crowded, but the staff who welcomed us in acted as though we were the only customers that they had to deal with. They helped us find out site and when it would not accommodate our rig, helped us find a different one. We suggest that you try to camp in section F near the road but under a lot of shade trees. Some of the sites are in a parking lot including all the full hookups. We did not have full hookup, but there is a well-designed dump station. The bathhouse was fairly clean considering the large number of guests using it, but the showers have water restrictors on them so not much water came out. The reason to stay here is for the convenience to the race track, but the kindness of the campground staff made it even more pleasant. - Cathy S
Springfield, Illinois (map) | (217) 753-0630
Sites: 100 | Latest Rate: $25.00 | 11 Reviews
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Aug 2015 - $25.00
Grass, very unlevel, couldn't even get slides out on fronts. - Never Lost
May 2015 - $25.00
The man who checked us in was very friendly. The campground was grassy and treed with gravel parking spots that were not very level. The sites were close together and most of the other RVs were very old and in bad shape. The campground was bordered with a run-down mobile home park which was not separated by a fence. A train track runs close to the park and a train can be heard several times per day. The roads were full of potholes. But it was an okay park for the price considering we had sewer at our site in addition to water and electricity. - mountainfan
Jul 2014 - $25.00
This is a County owned campground! We were traveling so stopped a pull thru site for 1 night only. $25 for a night was fair. Campground was about 4 miles off of I 55. Sites were gravel and some were kind of close to level. 50 amp power, water and sewer hookups. Once we got set up we decided to checkout the bath house. Men's and Women's were both filthy and stunk. All the toilets were full of caked on feces, broken balloons were all over the floors, and it looked as if it hadn't been cleaned in a year!The floors were covered with paper towel pieces, and horribly dirty! First and last time for us, we will never be back because of the condition of the bath houses. Too bad as campground is nice and area seems nice too. - LaMonte
Springfield, Illinois (map) | (217) 498-7002
Sites: 61 | Latest Rate: $39.00 | 43 Reviews
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Oct 2015 - $39.00
The road getting to this park narrow and it goes over a very narrow one lane bridge. If you are coming into the campground in a large motorhome be aware it is very difficult to navigate the very narrow road. The campground overlooks corn fields. The campground is 7 miles off the interstate and I would not recommend staying here if you are planning on doing activities in the Springfield area. There are other campgrounds much closer to the historic sites in Springfield. - budolemiss
Sep 2015 - $30.00
For a change of pace, we decided to take I-55 south from the Chicago area rather than I-57. This park is about 10 minutes (5-7 miles depending on which exit (88 or 94 you are using to get here)) from the interstate. The last mile is a narrow gravel road. The park is nestled in the middle of farms and most of the park is treed. Per their handout, there about 45 FHU sites with about half being pull-through and half back-to-back back-ins. There are also W&E sites, electric only, no hookups, and tent sites. There are also half a dozen cabins. We were in a row of FHU, pull-through sites on the west side of that park that had maybe 7-8 sites that were satellite friendly. Because we were able to get satellite and, being <300 miles from home (meaning we could get our home network channels), we did not bother to hook up to their cable. As shown in the handout, their are 24 cable channels and all you need to do is make the "normal" connection. Because their immediate area did not have cable service years ago, this park has their own satellite based system that they feed to the sites. Their WiFi worked fine. Of course, there were only about 20 other customers in the park so the internet performance might be different in a crowded park. Typical of KOAs, there were plenty of recreational facilities: a pool (closed for the season), a playground with older equipment, a small dog park, horseshoes, b-ball, volleyball, mini-golf, etc. The laundry (4 of each machine @ $1.50 each) and bath/shower facilities are in the main building. They are older, but clean. The office has small store area and some game tables. The park has propane for sale. Although some of the 20 RVs here might have been extended stay, I don't think anyone stays here all year (I think the park closes Nov. 1). I found the woman (owner?) in the office to be friendly and informative. - Jerry S
Sep 2015 - $9.00
Rate reflected is using KOA points, and a $6.00 charge for 50 amp.
We stayed one night as a pass through area on on way to Indiana.
We arrived at our very nice, pull through site, to find it littered with trash and tons of cigarette butts on the ground and in the fire pit. Come on people... When you leave a campsite, it should be cleaner than when you found it!
I interrupted the hostesses dinner, and she had to call for my points, and seemed a little irritated by it, but she was still nice.
This is a very nice park, and spots are quite spacious.
I requested a rooftop satellite friendly space, which we received. The rest of the park was very nice, surrounded by trees and fields, and oh so quiet at night. We got a great nights sleep to continue with our travels in the morning. - Mr&MrsFulltimers


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Well, Tuesday was the big day, and, thankfully we got great news!
(We needed it - hubby just lost his job and my grandmother's funeral was on Wednesday ... sigh).
We went 2 weeks ago for an amnio and decided not to do it based on our 1/147 "high risk" for downs.Ā When we weighed our options and risks, we decided to do the Level II and see what happened from there.
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after getting real tired of flats during my commute, I finally decided to pay a visit to my LBS a few weeks back and discuss a solution.
I wanted to go biger than the 700x25s I had. Was hoping I could go to a 32 on my trek 1200. He said a 28 was as big as I could get away with and recommended the panaracer paselas. he assured me that with these tires and tuffy liners, I'd be pretty much flat proof.
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I mounted the front first and managed to pop the tire off the bead about the time i hit 100 psi. I thought i was pretty careful getting the tube properly seated, maybe not. I brought it back and he had no trouble mounting it.
I went home, mounted the rear myself after being damn sure the tube wasn't pinched. It seemed fine.
So, off I went for my first commute on my new flatproof shoes.
About halfway home, I got a slow leak very close to the valve. maybe a half inch away. I didn't recall running over anything that could have caused it. It was on the sidewall part of the tube, so having the tuffy liners didn't come into play.
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Hi guysHas any you used the Allow pin escape insertion feature on the Automatic TestPrep ?i understand that this feature adds via (as ICT ) so it needs to check/move all traces in all layers where it wants to add a via.I have a board of about 3300 nets and want to add ICT's to (only 2700 need ICT).when running the the TestPrep with the Allow pin escape insertion feature checked then the ICT insertion rate is very slowand when i say slow i mean 63 nets proccessed in 11 hours (over night)i have a strong PC with XP Prof with 1G of Ram and Allegro Preformancewhen i run the same just without this feature then it finishes after about 1 hour ( with 3 passes - eg. 3 probe types enabled) (results are 1300 ICT added out of 2700 nets need ICT)Has any of you used this feature ? with any success ?am i doing something wrong ? or did i forget to do something ?attached the testprep automatic form and general parameters TAB with checked featuresthank you for the helproby
Roby, I have not seen this in the past but it has been a while since I asked TestPrep to add in a large amount of missing test points using the "auto insertion" feature.I have a couple tips for you that may help you figure out what is going on.1. Test Prep does not allows add test points if it creates a DRC. It something does not do a good job bubbling traces away from a newly added test point which can cause addition failures because it creating DRCs. I would recommend you check "Disable cline bubbling" in the Testprep Parameters form and see if you can get more test points in using via replacement. In most cases you can easily clean up the DRC that are left behind after the test point is added.2. Dynamic shapes appears to prevent the addition of test points using the "auto insertion" feature so I would remove them prior to running the auto insertion pass and see if you get a higher completion rate. Of course generate a Sub-Drawing of them to be added back in later.3. Hilite the nets that are missing test points and see if you could find a test point location that appears to be a good test site. Try to add a test point manually to an existing via and if it fails review the error echoed on the command line to investigate it further.Overall, during the fanout of the design I attempt to space the vias out is such a way so they can be used as test points so I never run into the situation that you have that no test point sites are available.Hope this helps,Mike CatramboneUTStarcom, Inc.
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but my main question was about the rate of automatic testprep worksi now deleted all shapes in the design an rerun itaftre 4 hours of work it processed 12 nets out of 3263 ( see picture attached ) and it is still running ......i also run it with out the allow pin escape and it runs fast enough ( about 1.5 hours with 3 diff probes)another question i have about the manual ICT it only adds ICT (SMT) on via or trace or padbut if i want to add near an existing via / pad/trace ( and then connect to it ) it is not possibleso i put it on a pad with DRC and move it and after that route to it ( very complicated !)is there a better way to add ICT on adense board ?same problem when i want to add ict over a trace in the middle of the nethow can i do it ?i first added avia manualy then tried to replace it to ICT with no successo i added a small trace out of this via ( on bottom ) and i was able to add on the line/trace a smt ICT - when tried to move the SMT ICT over the VIA got a DRC again is there a better way to insert a TH via ICT on a trace running on internal layer ?thank youroby DrathMEMTEK Elec Eng
Roby,I sort of didn't answer your initial question. It is hard to tell what exactly is going on.. It is running the old allegro no-via router router to insert the additional test sites.Sometimes the old router would run very very slow when you had your routing grid set too fine so I did a little test board and found out that this is still the case.My Test board ran for 10 minutes and was made up of the following:- 1 inch sq PCB- 10 nets- 6 components- Routing grid set to 1 milWhat is your Routing Grid set to ? This sounds like the reason why it is running so long.Your question: "Manual ICT only adds ICT (SMT) on via or trace or pad but is it possible to add it near an existing via/ pad/trace" I believe what you are looking for is to stub off of a existing via/pad/trace. What I have done in the past is setup my TestPrep Parameters and develop a small script to stub off a feature then add a test point which I alias to a function key. Here is a small example:# Add test point stub script# Enter add connect command and select trace # to be tested prior to running this scriptsetwindow pcbipick 0 -100 next testprep manual ipick 0 0done add connect# End of Add test point stub scriptOf course you will need to tweak the script a little to work for you. Your question: " first added a via manually then tried to replace it to ICT with no success"You need to define a Thru Via under the Padstack Selection tab and also check the Replace Vias box at the bottom for it to work correctly.Your question: "I want to add ict over a trace in the middle of the net" "better way to insert a TH via ICT on a trace running on internal layer"As long as you define a SMT TestPad Padstack under the Padstack Selection tab you should be able to add a test point in the middle of a trace. Note: This only works for traces on the external layers because it uses a surface pad not a Thru hole test point.Hope this helps,Mike CatramboneUTStarcom, Inc.
Hi Mikethank you for the effort and the share of your idea'snow i understand that a "OLD" router is involved i understandi see that there is a log being generated tprouter.log ( which i don't understand at all)but i found that it includs a time column which was in average 4-5 minutes i assume per try/viaany way my board is about 110 Sq in and the grid was 5 mils.i changed it to 50 mils and rerun itnow in ran about 5 min BUT... only 3 ICT inserted !! (2-3 seconds per try in the tprouter.log)tried with grid of 25 mils and it ran 14 minutes with 5 ICT !?!(7-10 seconds per try in the tprouter.log)another try with 10 mil grid (which is still running) i get about 1 minute per row in the log fileit seems that when the allow insertion is enabled that the regular via replacement or smt over trace (on bottom) is disabled - it is not logical !when i ran it with 5 mil grid with out the allow pin insertion checked so only pad stack replacement and smt ICT added on tarces was done there were 1300 ICT inserted in less then 30 minutes ( in a faster machine )when i understood that grid may cause the algorithm not to find possible ICT locations that also satisfy the grid i decided to lower it to 0.1 mil and run it without the allow pin insertion and see if i get a higher ICT count ( more then 1300)the result was the same i think i got the exact ICT countso my theory is not right !any way i understand that the preofrmance of the automatic pin insertion feature is less then POOR ! or else you can suggest any thing else?it is not working as expected.about the idea of script ( and alias) it is very goodbut it lacks in that the length and direction of the stub are different for each and every case.so i my idea is : (did not try it yet)after adding the stub as desired ( direction and length)to excute ( by funckey x "done;setwindow pcb;testprep manual;ipick 0 0;done;add connect"done ( of the previous add connect)setwindow pcbtestprep manual ipick 0 0done add connectand then continue add stub to the next placedo you thing it will work ?about the replace regular via to ICT one i probably did something wrong.since i have it defined in the replacment table TAB and it is enabledabout my last questioni meant that i want to add an ICT in amiddle of a trace that runs in internal layer!so i want to be able ( theoretically ) to add a TH ICT VIA on the middle of an internal trace.and to benefit from the good push and shove feature of the allegro.so now after your tip about the script i guess i can change to fit this case alsoor else you have a better solution ?again thank you very much for your effort.Roby DrathMEMTEK Elec Eng
Hi Mikeone more thing i just foundi decreased my max via displacement from 300 mil to 50 miland tha process is faster but still relative slow to the try without the allow insertionmax 300 mil displacement with 5 mil grid gives 3600 possible via sites to be checkedwhile max 50 mil displacement with 10 mil grid gives 25 valid ICT sites to be checked !it still does not explain why when i ran it with 50 mil grid ( and other 2 feature checked beside allow insertion)it only added 3 ICT's ?from one point of view you want small grid so more via's can be replacedform the other hand you want higher grid to reduce run timewhat is the optimum ?or maybe it should be run in 2 stagessmall grid without insertionand then ( in incremental mode ) higher grid with allow insertionwhat do you think ?so now i run it (with 2 stages ) and see after few hours what is the progressRoby DrathMEMTEK Elec Eng


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I received my new Shimano UN 54 bottom bracket yesterday and went to install it today. It was labeled 68x113mm. I pulled to old busted one out, labeled 68x113mm, installed the new one, then put the cranks back on. Instantly I noticed the crank was much closer to the BB shell then before. I pulled to whole thing apart and measured both spindles. The old one measured a correct 112.5mm, but the new one measured out to be 109.5mm! Yes, I measured twice.
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Have a healthy day
Students at Houlka Attendance Center ran, jumped and played all in the name of good health and good fun May 20 as the staff hosted Olympic Day again this year.
The annual field day in May has been revamped to include more than just games and helps children become more active on the way to good heatlh.
School nurse, Chandra Warren, said the games incorporate more physical activity and education, but still provide students with an end-of-year stress reliever and reward going into summer break.
"The School Health Council puts it on every year and it has more physical education but we try to work in some fun for them," Warren said.
Warren pointed to the sno-cone run and said when she first laid out the path, it was just a running track, so she added in a balance beam to cross while carrying a big, plastic sno-cone.
"We tried to make it more challenging and tie in with the Olympic theme," Warren said.
The day started with a fun run and walk and children moved through stations for a bean bag toss, basketball shoot, bowling game and more.
Warren said in addition to physical health, exercise can lead to better learning because it relieves some of the mental stress of daily classes.
"Just think about it, when you sit there for a long time, how tired you get," Warren said.
She added that the pre-kindergarten class began a new program this year and she hopes to spread it through the school. The Move to Learn program incorporates physical activity and exercise in the classroom to foster better learning.
"They do it in class," Warren said. "It includes exercises, singing and dancing and incorporates learning with it. They can do it standing right beside their chairs. It gets the blood going and energizes them so they can learn better."
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My first time making miniature melon pan, so I decided to put it in a little basket along with a stick of bread and the first bunch of grapes I've ever made <3
Handmade with Polymer clay, basket is hand-woven
Handmade with Polymer clay, basket is hand-woven
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If you've been struggling to break certain financial habits, the
problem may not be your budget, but rather your childhood.
"Financial flashpoints are early experiences we have around
money, and very often they're in our childhood," says Brad Klontz,
a financial psychologist and author of "Mind Over Money: Overcoming
the Money Disorders That Threaten Our Financial Health
Once we have these experiences, we come up with a way to make sense
of them, Klontz says. This becomes our money script -- our beliefs
around money and the way it works. However, sometimes those beliefs
lead us financially astray.
Take Joan Sotkin, a business and money coach who chronicles her
discovery of the link between her childhood and her finances in the
book, "Build Your Money Muscles: Nine Simple Exercises for
Improving Your Relationship With Money."
Sotkin remembers getting advice from her father about the value
of taking out loans. "You have the ideas and the bank has the
money," he would say, but he failed to tell her she'd have to pay
the money back. That became Sotkin's introduction to living in
debt. "My father was a debtor so I learned that pattern," Sotkin
Another lesson Sotkin learned from childhood was that debt keeps
people connected since the debtor is beholden to the creditor. That
lesson played out with Sotkin constantly having financial crises so
that a family member would have to rescue her. "I'd borrow the
money and pay it back over and over again," she recalls.
Lessons from childhood
Children pick up money habits from their parents and other family
members by observing them and modeling their behaviors, says Denise
Kautzer, a financial therapist in St. Paul, Minn. In fact, the
National Foundation for Credit Counseling's
2013 Financial Literacy Survey
(FLS) found that 33 percent of Americans learned their financial
skills at home.
While two people can respond differently to the same childhood
experience, some money scripts are common, experts say.
Changing the behavior
Many people are unaware that childhood experiences are dictating
their financial behavior until they experience a financial crisis
and look more closely at their money habits, Kautzer says. They may
realize, for example, that they're making the same mistake they saw
a parent make.
To discover which childhood patterns lurk behind your money
habits, Klontz recommends that you ask yourself:
"If they've been hurting you, then you need to go back and see
if there's a better way to think about money," Klontz says. For
example if you believe that someone will always save you when
you're financially reckless, think back to a time when someone did
not save you and remind yourself that you must help yourself in
order to avoid financial ruin. "That's the process of re-scripting
because you've got these money scripts and you need to make them
more accurate," Klontz adds.
Once you change your thinking, you can take steps to change your
Become financially literate.
If you come from a family that made a lot of financial missteps or
one that never talked about money, there may be a real need for
financial education, Kautzer says. That may mean taking a class or
getting credit counseling.
Prioritize your changes
. You can't change everything at once. Instead decide what areas
you want to tackle first, Kautzer says.
Avoid your triggers.
Once you realize that certain things lead to an unwanted financial
behavior, remove the trigger, suggests Richard Reeve, education
coordinator and counselor for Consumer Credit Counseling Service of
Savannah. When one of Reeve's clients realized she spent money
whenever she passed a Target store, she started taking a different
way home from work every day to remove the temptation. "Doing so
helped her to reprogram her mind," Reeve says.
See related:
Is it time to consider financial therapy?
When being frugal becomes an obsession
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Sub Pop's considering selling merch with free album downloads , and general manager Megan Jasper told us last week that, "We used to give many
Sub Pop's considering selling merch with free album downloads, and general manager Megan Jasper told us last week that, "We used to give many of these tchotchke items away for free in an effort to entice people to pay for the music, but we're considering flipping our strategy so that people pay for the toy and receive the music for free."
It's possible the new physical incentive might be enough to drive more people into brick and mortar record stores, which would be good for business. Sonic Boom co-owner Jason Hughes is not so sure.
"I think it's a bad idea. I think that they're devaluing the music," he says. "It's too hard to merchandise posters or t-shirts. From a retail point of a record store, I don't want to re-tool because they want to start selling different things than what they've been selling for the last 20 years."
Hughes says he gets that sales are down and he understands where labels are coming from. But he thinks they're losing sight of the big picture.
"Labels are forgetting that we're in a crazy recession right out," Hughes says. "(Nobody's) buying anything. Everyone's freaking out that their sales are down right now. They just have to expect that. Get over it. I hear labels complain about it all the time. Well, we're in a different economic time. Deal with it. I think until consumers start opening their wallets, I don't know how much of a difference it's going to make as far as revenue streams go."
Sales aren't so hot at Sonic Boom's new Capitol Hill shop (1525 Melrose Ave, between Pike and Pine, near Bauhaus), either. When asked if we needed to put his shop on death watch, Hughes said: "If we didn't have a second store, yes. We're still working it out."


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Goldgroup Adopts Advance Notice Article
VANCOUVER, April 11, 2013 /PRNewswire/ - Goldgroup Mining Inc. ("Goldgroup" or the "Company") (TSX:GGA, OTC:GGAZF, BMV SIC:GGAN.MX) announces the adoption by its Board of Directors (the "Board") amendments to the Company's Articles, including introducing an advance notice requirement in connection with shareholders intending to nominate directors in certain circumstances (the "Amendments"). The purpose of the Advance Notice Provisions is to foster a variety of interests of the shareholders and the Company by ensuring that all shareholders, including those participating in a meeting by proxy rather than in person, receive adequate notice of the nominations to be considered at a meeting and can thereby exercise their voting rights in an informed manner. Additionally, the Advance Notice Provisions provide a reasonable framework for shareholders to nominate directors and should assist in facilitating an orderly and efficient meeting process.The Board believes that the Amendments provide a clear and transparent process for all shareholders to follow if they intend to nominate directors. In that regard, the Amendments provide a reasonable time frame for shareholders to notify the Company of their intention to nominate directors and require shareholders to disclose information concerning the proposed nominees that is mandated by applicable securities laws. The Board will be able to evaluate the proposed nominees' qualifications and suitability as directors and respond as appropriate in the best interests of the Company. The Amendments are also intended to facilitate an orderly and efficient meeting process. In the case of an annual meeting of shareholders, notice to the Company must be given not less than 35 nor more than 65 days prior to the date of the Annual General or Special Meeting of shareholders, as the case may be; provided, however, that in the event that the meeting of shareholders is called for at a date that is less than 50 days after the date (the "Notice Date") on which the first public announcement of the date of the meeting was made, the Notice must be given by the Nominating Shareholder not later than the close of business on the tenth (10 th) day following the Notice Date. Notwithstanding the foregoing, the Board of Directors may, in its sole discretion, waive any requirement. In no event shall any adjournment or postponement of a meeting of shareholders, or the public announcement thereof, commence a new time period for the giving of the Notice. The Amendments will be placed before the shareholders of the Company at the upcoming Annual and Special Meeting to be held on June 11, 2013. The Amendments will be in effect upon receiving shareholder approval and if rejected by the shareholders, the Company's Articles will remain unchanged. About Goldgroup Goldgroup is a Canadian-based gold production, development, and exploration company with significant upside in a portfolio of projects in Mexico, including its flagship 100%-owned advanced stage gold development project, Caballo Blanco, in the state of Veracruz, and a 50% interest in DynaResource de Mexico, S.A. de C.V., which owns 100% of the high-grade gold exploration project, San José de Gracia located in the state of Sinaloa. The Company also operates its 100%-owned Cerro Colorado gold mine in the state of Sonora. Goldgroup remains in a flexible financial position with a strong cash balance, no debt and no gold hedging. The Company is led by a team of highly successful and seasoned individuals with extensive expertise in mine development, corporate finance, and exploration in Mexico. Goldgroup's mission is to increase gold production, mineral resources, profitability and cash flow, building a leading gold producer in Mexico. For further information on Goldgroup, please visit www.goldgroupmining.com
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and ahead of the analyst consensus of $421.5 million on Capital IQ.
Earnings per ADS were $0.37, up from a year ago loss of $0.90 per
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In Q2 of 2014 the company expects to ship between 950 MW and
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the modules shipped to its own developed projects as required by
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NFLX trades in a 52-week range of $205.75 to $458.00.
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Making the Case for Personalized Medicine
Personalized medicine is the customization of healthcare. Already, a suite of molecular approaches is being used to tailor certain medical decisions, practice and products to the individual patient. For example, melanoma, leukemia and metastatic lung, breast and brain cancers can be routinely "molecularly diagnosed" and treated with medicines that target the specific genetic mutations. These represent a remarkable improvement over trial-and-error medicine. Other diagnostic tests use the patient's DNA sequence to determine drug-metabolizing capabilities. This Read More >
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It is everywhere. In March, the US State Department held a one-day conference titled "Showcasing the Bioeconomy: The Future is Now". That same month, the UK House of Lords published a report on the same topic. "Waste could be turned into wealth," they said. In the past couple of weeks, Finland's first national bioeconomy strategy was unveiled, while the Borneo Post reported that "The vast potentiality of bioeconomy has been regarded as one of the Read More >


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On Sept. 11, 2001, when President Bush ordered the grounding of all commercial aviation in the United States, the airline industry confronted a logistical nightmare. By Sept. 14, when the airlines were finally given permission to fly again, carriers faced unprecedented operations problems from a massive, system-wide schedule disruption.
Of course, the airlines had faced disruptions before. But snowstorms, mechanical breakdowns and sick pilots were insignificant when compared to the terrorist attacks. Washington D.C.'s Reagan National Airport was closed indefinitely. Thousands of airplanes had been forced to land at the nearest available airport, which meant they weren't in the places they were supposed to be. In addition, each of the major carriers had thousands of pilots in the wrong places.
Dr. Gang Yu makes
extremely complicated industrial systems run
"Within an hour, our entire fleet was grounded at the nearest available airports," recalls Anna White, at the time director of crew technology at Continental Airlines. "It was a monumental problem. I can honestly tell you that in the 19 years I've worked in crew operations, I had never seen anything like it."
Luckily, Continental could rely on a new technology it had developed with Dr. Gang Yu, a professor of management science and information systems at The University of Texas at Austin's McCombs School of Business. Yu and his Austin-based company, Caleb Technologies Corp., had worked for several years on CrewSolver, a piece of software that relied on complex algorithms to parse tens of thousands of variables that affect airline scheduling, including pilot and plane pairings.
Crew pairing, the challenge of matching pilots, planes and crews with schedules and routes, had plagued the airline industry long before the 9/11 attacks. For instance, Continental relies on four different airplanes in its fleet, 747s, 737s, MD80s and DC-10s, and they can only be flown by pilots who are trained on those specific aircraft.
After the aviation shutdown on Sept. 11, all of that information was fed into what Yu describes as his software's "optimization engine."
By using CrewSolver, Continental was able to pair the right pilots with the right airplanes. In fact, the airline was able to resolve 1,600 problem pairings for its fleet of 737s and MD80s in less than 20 minutes. Before CrewSolver, the airline's scheduling department would have had to make do with spreadsheets and a monstrous pile of pencils and erasers.
In 2001, Continental estimated that Yu's software saved the airline about $40 million, a sizable amount when you understand that the Houston-based air carrier lost $95 million that year on revenue of $8.9 billion.
World-Class Work
In 2002, Yu's team from Continental and Caleb Technologies won the prestigious Franz Edelman Award for Management Science Achievement. The annual award, considered the "Super Bowl" of management science, is designed to "call out, recognize and reward outstanding examples of management science and operations research practice in the world."
The decision to give the 2002 Edelman Award to Yu and Continental was based in large part on the airline's ability to recover quickly from the 9/11 disaster thanks to CrewSolver.
"[The software] was exceptional in terms of its impact, its methodology, the management science it used in both its soundness and novelty, and also by the number of high level people at Continental who certified that it made a big difference to them," says Donald R. Smith, an associate professor of management and marketing at Monmouth University who chaired the Edelman committee in 2002.
Yu and his company had proven they were world-class experts at modeling efficiency.
The roots of their effort stretched back to Yus childhood in one of the 20th centurys most notoriously inefficient societies, the Peoples Republic of China under Mao Tse-tung.
Classless Work
The Yichang Regional Tractor Factory was set up as a way to praise Mao Tse-tung, not as a model for productivity or good workmanship. Whenever the Chinese leader produced a new teaching, or China celebrated a national holiday, workers throughout the country held parades. The parades were a way of sustaining Mao's power and of reminding the people that they should continue supporting the Chinese Communist Party.
The workers at the Yichang tractor factory in Hubei Province in east-central China joined in the parades. But in doing so, they unintentionally demonstrated the bankruptcy of Mao's system of state-run businesses and state-controlled manufacturing.
Yu has vivid memories of those parades. He worked in the Yichang factory as a teenager, doing various jobs, including that of handyman and electrician.
With Yu's CrewSolver software, Continental was able to
resolve 1,600 problem pairings for its fleet of 737s and MD80s in
less than 20 minutes.
"We made our appearance by driving our tractors out," he recalls with a smile. "If we drove out 100, we would only get 50 back because the others would break down."
Yu also has sharp recollections of his co-workers.
"People didn't really work, he says. They'd read newspapers. Nobody ever got fired. People weren't judged by their work ethic or productivity. They were measured by their political beliefs or affiliations."
Nearly 30 years have passed since Yu began his three-year-long stint in the tractor factory, but those three years have played a critical role in his life. The terrible inefficiencies he saw in the factory gave him clear ideas about the nature of work, productivity and how to best manage industrial operations.
"Since I'd worked in the factory, when I got to college I felt strong internal drive in trying to catch up with others and make up for time I lost. Plus, I also knew more about what I wanted to learn," he says.
And since leaving the factory at age 17, Yu has been moving very quickly. After getting a masters degree in physics, he set his sites on operations research and management science. Today, Yu, 45, is a renowned authority on making extremely complicated industrial systems run well, even when they are hit by massive disruptions.
"Gang is one of the best applied operations research people in North America, maybe in the world," says Patrick Jaillet, the head of the Department of Civil & Environmental Engineering at Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Jaillet, who chaired the McCombs School's Department of Management Science and Information Systems until 2002, says Yu's background in physics has given him tremendous mathematical skills.
"But he's also able to prove things, Jaillet says. His strength is taking on significant real world problems."
Jaillet points out that many people had tried and failed to come up with a solution that would minimize the costs incurred by airlines due to disruptions caused by weather and other factors. It was Yu who finally found a workable solution.
Beyond Class Work
Today, the plaque awarded by the Edelman committee hangs on the east wall of Yu's third floor office in the McCombs School. His window looks out over Speedway Avenue, and beyond that, Gregory Gym and Royal-Memorial Stadium. It's a galaxy or two away from the world he knew as a child, growing up in Yichang.
As a teenager, Yu feared that the rest of his life might be spent working in the Yichang Regional Tractor Factory. After Mao's death in 1976, however, reforms in China allowed Yu to compete on his merits, not his political connections, for entrance to Wuhan University and eventually a scholarship that allowed him to earn a master's degree in physics at Cornell University.
He went on to earn a doctorate in operations research at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. His dissertation, which he completed in 1989, was on vehicle routing problems in the trucking industry, a precursor to his later work with the airlines.
Dr. Yu's team received the 2002 Edelman Award, which recognizes "outstanding
examples of management science and operations research practice in the world."
After coming to The University of Texas at Austin in 1989, Yu began working on several different research projects, but he kept returning to the problems that were occurring in the airlines, particularly disruption management. He liked the disruption problem because the stakes were high and the need for a breakthrough solution was large and growing all the time.
In 1994, Yu and his wife Xiaomei Song, who holds a Ph.D. in physics, started Caleb (Computer Applications in Logistics Engineering and Business) in the basement of their home in order to devote more time to the problem. Within two years, the fledgling company had revenues of $1 million, and by 1997, Caleb had a contract with Continental to develop its disruption management software.
The success of Yu's software was a function of its ability to synthesize a huge amount of information into a workable model that made use of the algorithms he had devised.
Creating a good model is one of the most difficult problems in operations research, says Smith, who continues to serve on the judging committee for the Edelman Award.
"You have to decide which combination of things capture the gist of the problem and still have the problem be soluble. You can make a model so complete that it can't be manipulated," he says.
Once Yu had a workable model, he had to write software that could access different databases within the airline. Yu used an XML-based approach that allowed the software to pull data from Oracle, Sybase and other databases. Then he began testing the software with the airlines to assure that it was really working.
Caleb received early financial backing from Techxas Ventures, an Austin-based venture capital firm. James Schellhase, a managing director at the firm, says Techxas saw that Caleb "had a remarkable way of solving the problem that airlines had been trying to handle with spreadsheets."
Working for Impact
Yu and Song sold Caleb in March of this year to Navitaire, a division of consulting giant Accenture. And while he's happy that he can focus on teaching at the McCombs School, he's also actively looking at other industries where he can apply his expertise.
"Disruption management has not been fully explored, he says. It worked well in airlines and now I'd like to see where else I can go with it."
He's been talking to various semiconductor manufacturers about how his techniques might be applied in the chip fabrication process, which, like the airline industry, is hugely capital intensive and highly vulnerable to expensive disruptions.
Whatever challenge Yu takes on next, he knows that he wants to develop something new.
"I don't want to follow people's steps. I don't want to just add icing to someone else's cake," he says. "I want to create a big impact."
Robert Bryce
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I would tell you but I'd have to kill you. Sorry.
fused111 wrote:Very interesting, how did you find this out? Personally, do you think it would be fair for consumers if FICO had the capability to distinguish btw prime and subprime for loans and cc's and changed their scoring models accordingly? For example, reward those who have more prime TL's than those who do not.
Tuscani wrote:The FICO formula does not distinguish between prime/subprime per se. The way it identifies a 'consumer finance' account is through the bureau subscription code -- the lender's ID# at the bureau -- that, among other things, indicates what kind of business it is. (This is also how mortgage and auto inquiries are distinguished from other inquiry types.) I believe the reason why the suggestion above won't work is because the portion of these codes that provide this identification are industrywide and not unique to a particular lender, although a lender typically has multiple subscriber codes for different parts of the business. So, for example, while the score can tell if the lender is considered a consumer finance company, it can't identify a particular product of that lender's as prime/subprime.
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II.Imagine a game built on what everyone wants in an MMORPG
LoL! Geat comments guys im loving it already! So first off, if your not sure what this is all about, see the first entry: http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/Psymyn/072008/2032_Imagine-a-game-built-on-what-everyone-wants-in-an-MMORPG
Now, if youve read that, then you know what this is all about. But lets move on to what is important. In the first blog post, we were discussing the first catagory, the Nature of the game. So from this aspect i think we have all agreed to a Fantasy/Sci-fi Hybrid, and actually No Humans ( as somone stated) is a fantastic idea i can say, most of you stated comments more based on a seperate catagory that shall be covered later ( good ideas, none the less). Lets just keep it generalized and simple for now. Lets not jump to far ahead, that way everyone has a chance to get their ideas out there for the specific catagory, and this way things are a bit organized at least.
1.(Nature) Fantasy/sci-fi: No human races, Very mysterious and almost horror survivalsitic type of MMORPG. (afterall space is mysterious and scary!)
-if you have any more ideas feel free to come back and discuss any other details and ill add them in.
Next Catagory to discuss:
2. This one may include a set of things that can just be easier to sum into one catagory. So first off, were looking at a Hybrid MMORPG, and when i say Hybrid i dont just mean as in the scenery! I say let by gones be by gones, lets just give it some juicy features ( im getting excited!), i think this catagory we should discuss the actual game play mechanics. Some of you were saying, i want scary shit jumping at me. I couldnt agree more, thats why i think this "game" being a hybrid, we can take MMORPG like features and add in some tasty Horror type survivalistic features ( as in ideas from other Horror/Survival type games, not like puzzle action type crap). This brings up more great ideas in my head here. How about a world where your some form of evolved human race ( Anyone see the man whom fell to earth??) if not dont worry about it lol. But i think being a- here again "Hybrid" evolved hyper? human, would make this race no longer human, but gives a generalized story line to why they exsist ( you follow me... no... ok). What im saying is You have a evolved human race, thats like an entirely new generation of humans, which in turn doesnt really make them human, but they are of human species. So you have them, then you have just some other "Jawa" looking friendly alienated "sapien" like intelligable races, no need to start calling names here lol, lets just focus on whats on the table not whats coming....
Ok so that alot to chew on for awhile. Lets review some of the topics up for discussion and sub-catagorized into this next single Catagory.
A. Game Mechanics/Gameplay
B. Races (how many? what kind? Evolved human derivatives? -yay, nay?)
C. Following The last three topics, with your ideas, what can you come up with for some bits of story liine, or what can you say it should be generalized as??
(my example: A. Horror/Surviavl/MMORPG, B. Evolved Humans... IN SPACE!!, C. What??? Humans actually outlived themselves? well ya in a sense, except they are no longer really humans?! Humans lived on earth... which has long ended now, Large amounts of Humans took a leap of faith into the dark abyss in search for a new home, lots died off after centuries of travel. Over time ppl started adapting to the life of deep space, and with a stonger, newer, longer living, and much more intelligent race to have once lived as humans, they now have actually fulfilled their destiny and have found their home, but like every other it comes at a price and with daily threats from the natives they will continually struggle... etc. etc. etc.)
I first want to say this I honestly think. the Pokemon world and what not would game an incredible mmorpg. its been years since i've actually played any of the games. but, just think about it.
secondly i want to say that this idea of creating a game (even for fun) from all the actual mmorpg's players' opinions is a really cool fun idea.
Now, my comments on this thread hmm.
i have to agree with the horror/survival/mmorpg thing. maybe similar to the oblivion gameplay with a neat little idk WoW gameplay twist on there. with an optional 1st/3rd person play. with real time swings AND a spell bar like WoW has.
As for races. i would like a lot of races, but not an overwhelming number. So many to where you feel like your "different" from all the other players but not so many as though you absolutely cant decide what to play. you know?
Maybe have all the "races" actually be of human derivative but evolved/mutated differently according to there environment. also going into the scifi of it maybe have some of the different species of human. on different planets making some of them different entirely.
Some that have adapted to supior intellegence. and those species that only needed pure brute force to get by.
the storyline possibly generalized as starting out as yours and maybe your character must..idk Unite the human species or something like that.
anyways. yea. thats my 2centsSat Jul 12 2008 9:58PM Report
Impossible. You cant make something that everyone will like. So you have to choose. Choose the features, the gameplay, the story, combat system, death system, looting system, and so on. From that make something that will appeal to an audience which is hopefully big enough to support the game for a reasonable time.
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A) Stealth/survival/MMO
B) Several (5 or 6), with 2 not being humanoid (seriously, why do we always have to be humanoid)
C) Pretty much the same as you have. (this might be a bit Lore-ish but) The world they found was contested by 2 alien races. The "humans" ended the war, taking over mining under the agreement that they would sell/provide both other races the resources openly and fairly. However, in the 30 years since, distrust and corruption have become epidemic. Attacks from native species, that have abandoned their former tribal existance to repell this "invasion", have also grown far worse (BTW make this a playable group).
So you'd have a 3 way cold war, that at the same time is a collalition facing 1 or 2 native "races" (slightly less adversarial to each other).Sat Jul 12 2008 10:48PM Report
A) Agreed. Also, I feel like this game should have *GASP* blood. Real blood, not random 'oh there's some red dye!' but real life-like blood and gore. If its going to be part survival, I feel the need to see some intestines, brains and kidneys rollin around the floor.
B) I'd say more than several. 5 or 6 doesn't cut it for me. I want like...12. I feel like 12 is a good number. EQ II system anybody? Good, Evil and Neutral should also play a part if we are going the RP route (which I agree with). Maybe even going so far as Lawful Good and Chaotic Evil included as well? That would really get me engrossed in my character.
C) Scatterings of the humanoid race live all over the planet. Humans, if they can be called that, now live a tribal lifestyle. Although the Imperial Order (not sure if name is taken somewhere) has tried to commandeer the rights of the many denizens of the planet, only tribes in agreement with the Order are under their control. Chieftains are still the authority within the human and [insert names of other races] tribes. A stale-mate has ensued for over a decade now, yet the fighting continues. However, a new race of [random description that would sound generic should I write it] has arrived, possibly upsetting the equilibrium that all have come to know...Which side will you join? Which Freedom do you deserve?...
Summing up what I just wrote, simply put I agree with the Cold War idea, but the third new to the planet race should not be playable. Monsters and new aliens will be the fighting fodder outside of PVP. Yet this brings me to my next point. I think that there should be some very large tribes, each with their own personal agenda, ideas, beliefs, etc etc etc so everyone can find something close to the niche they want to RP. Furthermore, there will be no more 'guilds'...there will be Clans under the umbrella of the Tribe.
This means something revolutionary in an MMORPG (I believe): the PVP element will be MASSIVE. Literally. Not only will there be clan v clan tourneys within tribes, but then tribe v tribe, tribe alliances, clan alliances, tribe v Imp. Order, and all tribes and Imp. Order v new alien race that just arrived. Hope that made sense...
Furthermore, no more of this PVP bullshit where you have to go this patch of dirt in the whatever province BLAH BLAH BLAH to the coliseum like pvp arena. PVP arenas take the fun out of PVP.
So i propose this: everyone has their territory: new aliens have none as they are new, tribes all have their own territory, Imperial Order Factions (their version of tribes) have their territory. Territory has a minimum size. Territory is split into 'chunks' where if your tribe holds a majority on the land, your tribe now owns that land and reaps the rewards of taxation minerals etc etc etc. This way, ALL LAND OUTSIDE THE MINIMUM ZONE IS CONTESTED. Awesome PVP ensues. Maps continually update, showing who owns what land.
That's my .02
PS-- _Seeker. 1) This is an exercise in fun.
2) You can make something that everyone will like if you include something for everyone, e.g. what is happening here.
3) If you're not going to add anything, why post at all? It wastes your time and mine.
4) Don't be ignorant. Continuing #2, this is an imagination game. You can please everyone because nothing is impossible in this game. I've had more fun writing this than I have in playing WoW for a few hours. This right here is the root of MMORPG's: it's called an imagination. Get one.Tue Jul 15 2008 1:22AM Report


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"At 10 a.m. on March 16, the 66th day, as most staffers were just arriving in the newsroom, an all-hands meeting was called. The next day would be the last of the print Seattle Post-Intelligencer, the publisher declared...The announcement was spun as the first paper to make the transition to an all-digital daily. Nevermind that the site left behind would be a skeleton of its former self. The new editor in charge would not respond to questions when I asked her for a story about the transition intended to run in the final print-edition. Instead, she posted her own, unfiltered thoughts online. Those staying behind started to fret about their new, all-encompassing beats. (Want to write about Boeing and Microsoft and Amazon, companies that previously each were covered by separate reporters? Anyone? Anyone?) Those of us who were not part of the new website celebrated with whiskey and beer. I packed a box."


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We both go to fight club and challenge each other, but it always says our decks aren't compatible. This can't be true because we can challenge any other person in the room.
One of your Decks is stronger then the other
How do i battle my friend in this game???
Usally adding them to your friends list and then going to fight club will work, unless one of your decks is much weaker then the others, If you can fight in the fight club then try to make the decks equal (Same amount of *s) or join the same guild and fight in a guild room.


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As Congress prepares to debate expansion of drilling in taxpayer-owned coastal waters, the Interior Department agency that collects oil and gas royalties has been caught up in a wide-ranging ethics scandal — including allegations of financial self-dealing, accepting gifts from energy companies, cocaine use and sexual misconduct.
In three reports delivered to Congress on Wednesday, the department's inspector general, Earl E. Devaney, found wrongdoing by a dozen current and former employees of the Minerals Management Service, which collects about $10 billion in royalties annually and is one of the government's largest sources of revenue other than taxes.
"A culture of ethical failure" besets the agency, Mr. Devaney wrote in a cover memo.
The reports portray a dysfunctional organization that has been riddled with conflicts of interest, unprofessional behavior and a free-for-all atmosphere for much of the Bush administration's watch.
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An internal email from NASA chief Mike Griffin has been leaked to the media. It expresses Griffin's frustration with recent US space policy, says that White House oversight offices have waged a "jihad" against the space shuttle, and offers a gloomy view of the future.
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COSMOS ME SDD P2 Alignment
SDD and P2 Alignment
- Attendees - Merri Jensen, Pascal Rapicault, Eric Rose, Jason Losh, Jeff Hamm, Mark McCraw
- Summary:
- Jason walked Pascal (P2 team lead) & Philipe through the SDD design doc
- P2 concepts map pretty nicely into the concepts described in the SDD runtime design
- P2 consists of a core "Director" that is analagous to the "Orchestrator" in the SDD runtime design
- P2 takes as input an object model that can be described in an XML document or other format -- we can potentially interface the SDD object model here. This is the i/o interface in the SDD design document
- The P2 team also has a "Zip Extractor" that we can potentially work with and use it to expand the operations handler interface
- Pascal indicated that the query interface is one that the P2 team is interested in. TBD how we collaborate on this, but is yet another common goal
- Registration and CMDBf integration isn't something P2 was targeting, but other than that the concepts and goals line up.
- The COSMOS/SDD team will need to pull down the P2 code and just see what it does, and what can be reused or expanded. We need to see if we can make P2 process an SDD and install something
- Maybe be able to use P2 as a quick start into installing simple apps for the 1.0 COSMOS release
- Next steps are for the COSMOS/SDD team to get into the code and see what we can make work or what needs to be changed in order to make things work with an SDD
- Initially any changes needed may be sent to the P2 team as patches. The team needs to determine how we're going to collaborate. Do we get P2 committers, etc.?
- Charlie took the action to discuss cross project collaboration
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DD's dad is going to jail for 30 days.
zzzz Dawn mommy to Sophia 7/05 zzzz
What will her grandmother tell her?
I don't have any advice but it's a sad thing for your dd. I'm sorry.
Time sometimes flies, maybe you can just keep her as busy as possible.
My DDs SD went to jail, but she was so young it didn't matter.
I am very sorry. I hope you figure something out. ((HUGS))
Great Northwest~ Meshelle, Mommy to DD Ashlee, DD Jessica, DS Lane, DD Madison & Charlie the Kitty
I have been threw something alittle like that. Zoe's dad did get arrested once but she was only around 6 months and he was only in there for a day.
So she never really even noticed.
Sorry I cant really help,
Good luck.
' We Must Pick Ourselves Up ' - Barack Obama-
I've decided to tell DD that daddy is taking a time out because he hasn't been very nice lately. She has accepted that. Hopefully she doesn't ask too many questions because it's really hard to explain this to a child.
zzzz Dawn mommy to Sophia 7/05 zzzz
I'm not sure how you feel about bringing her to jail to see her father?? Some ppl are okay with doing this..in my own personal opinion i wouldn't do it.
Maybe you can just tell her that he's away handling business for his job.. and he'll back in no time. I guess in the mean time keep her occupied.
My DD's father was in jail for about 2 months but luckily i was still preganant. It was heartbreaking to wait on line having to see other kids waiting to see their daddies..
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I think your plan sounds good for her age and stage Dawn. She'll ask about him but stick to your story and the time will pass faster than you'd think. My SD went to jail for a while when I was pregnant, and then was serving weekends for a while (what a waste of time) after DS was born.
I would say definitely don't bring her there to visit. He's only there a short time and there is no reason she needs to be introduced to that world.
~ the more you know, the less you need ~
Where is our other Dawn? LOL? Pisces~Mama might have some insight for you on this one. But I think your answer was fine. That's exactly what I told my 6 yr old when we got a restraining order on his dad, that he had to take a time out because he wasn't being nice.
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No I am definately not going to bring her to visit. I am thinking of making her a calendar where she can mark off the days if she asking about him a lot. Poor kid, she loves him so much and he's such an ass.
zzzz Dawn mommy to Sophia 7/05 zzzz
okay well my son was only 8 months when sd left for 2 yrs. I never took him to visit but his father wrote monthly. so maybe he could send her a note every week? even though my son was too little, when he is older he can see his father wrote. make sure he dates them or keep the envelope with the date so she can see how often (or not) he wrote. I think your answer is appropriate. tell her he did some things that were not nice and he has to go away for a bit. there is no need to lie bc chances are it won't be his last time going. most offenders are back in prison within a year. sorry not trying to be a downer but I've dealt with sd for 3 yrs now. his first time he left when I was pregnant for 8 months and he got out right in time for ds birth. he than went back when ds was 8 months old.(oh and that one was my fault bc I left him and he didn't know how to deal. LOL
Although I haven't dealt with this, I like the idea of what you said. I think that if she keeps pushing the issue, then getting a calendar to mark down the days might be good as well. I hope things work out for the two of you!


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County makes push for tourismPublished 9:33am Tuesday, October 16, 2012
SOUTH POINT — Next spring new signs are expected to grace the entrances of all the villages in the county and the city of Ironton.
But that new look is only the start of a long-term public relations campaign to promote Lawrence County as a must-see attraction on the national tourism circuit.
"We have a small committee that is working on an overall campaign to market the entire county," Viviane Vallance, director of the county's convention and visitors bureau, said. "We want a uniform look for all the products we use to market the community."
But before the PR experts come to Lawrence County, Vallance and her committee want to decide which aspects of the area's past and present they want to showcase.
"We don't want a consultant to come in and tell us what we need to do," she said. "We want a consultant to come in and learn about our community, our past."
Right now the committee has representation from business, private and media sectors.
"If we are really going to treat travel and tourism as an economic engine for our county, it has to be universal throughout the county," Dr. Bill Dingus, executive director of the Lawrence Economic Development Corp., said.
"I think there is a real benefit that when you are driving through the county all signage is such one can have a local uniqueness to be part of a larger system that speaks to tourists.
"The tourist attractions from the greenhouses to the horse stables to Wayne National Forest ATV trails to boat launches, we will eventually tie those in. It is something that shows Lawrence County as standing out."
Vallance said the convention bureau looks at this project as ongoing.
"Your promotion plan has to change for the markets," she said. "We have to gauge what the trends are. Our first phase is to come up with a uniform logo and theme for the county."