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Who's doing the listening in your tests, JRusskie? Do you know any 18 year old musicians? Oh, of course not...But you probably keep company with a bunch of construction guys (lucky you!) with damaged hearing. They should all find that there's no difference between any products.
The 2011 Richard C. Heyser Memorial Lecture: "Where Did the Negative Frequencies Go?" Summing Up
First, I would like to thank the Audio Engineering Society, not only for inviting me to give this lecture but also for making a wealth of invaluable information on audio available on its website. Second my thanks to DRA Labs, Audio Precision, and Miller Audio Research, for allowing me to make use of their measurement toolsabsolute accuracy and repeatability are the twin goals of those who measure components, and these companies' tools have been a major help over the years; Larry Archibald, for more than a quarter century ago making me an offer to move to the US that I couldn't refuse; the staff and writers of Stereophile, for their inspiration and support; all the musicians I have worked with over the years, for allowing me to participate in the capturing of their dreams; Hugh Davies, for teaching me how to edit recordings; Tony Cox, Jerry Boys, Peter McGrath, and Erick Lichte, for teaching me what is important in capturing sound and creating a recorded soundstage; and my longtime copyeditor, Richard Lehnert, for making me appear more erudite in my writings than I am in person.
Third, one well-known skeptic sitting in the audience tonight criticized my abstract a few weeks back on the grounds that I am just offering "hypotheses about stuff that might be just to stir the pot, while offering no real explanations." I hope I have done more than just stir the pot. I hope I have opened people's eyes to the elegance of so much that matters in audio, and caused them perhaps to think a little about matters that might have been taken too much for granted.
Finally, looking back at the individual areas I have been discussing, it would seem that if you want to make and play back recordings that people will prefer, you use spaced omni mikes to capture the sound at at least 176.4kHz, and play it back through an NOS DAC, a zero- or low-negative-feedback amplifier with very low static distortion below 1W and primarily second-harmonic distortion at higher powers, driving large panel speakers via exotic cables.
With that bombshell, I will end by playing one of my recordings that I hope encapsulates the goal that we audio engineers strive to reach. To paraphrase Friedrich Nietzsche, a life without music would be a mistake. Here is some sweet music: Cantus performing a modern setting of a poem by Tennyson:
Once again, comrade JRusskie, you are on your Quixotic journey down that twisty, winding path for "truth"... Being an upstanding citizen of the former-USSR, you should know about "truth", right?
DBT is SCIENCE, and SCIENCE is ALWAYS RIGHT, especially during the heyday of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and you've been hanging on to this idea since the dissolution of the USSR. Hanging on to something you really want to be TRUE.
Comrade JRusskie, just because you want it, doesn't make it so.
just wanted to let you know i haven't forgotten about you.
i've been south of the equator spending time with my father and brother, but now that I'm back in the Stereophile office, i'll answer your question in full a little later.
peace out homeslice.
be nice.
Asking Johnny to be nice... Wow, you are very optimistic Ariel!
Ariel, how about doing your job and deleting post and start placing a 30 day BAN on Regadude and ChrisS for spamming this whole article day after day with nothing less than pure drivel and taunts? I've seen kids frums better moderated than this fiasco but it's already turned into a child's forum the way they act. You would think they had some dignity but we haven't seen any yet.
I believe the internet is pretty much open range, so I'm happy to just watch folks speak their minds using whatever manner to express themselves.
one thing that bothers me is when a member is unneccessarily rude to someone who is being respectful or even innocently posting unknowing of the snark they may receive. in those instances, I say something so new users are not discouraged to continue posting.
On the other hand, if you're being provocative with your initial comment, I can only expect others to react to your provocation.
The other policy I encourage and have stated many times is as follows
"don't feed the trolls"
Finally, we do delete comments from ANY member we feel is totally off-topic and insulting to an individual member, as we want the conversation to continue and bring light to the subject at hand rather than turn into a name-calling game. That being said, I'd like to delete Regadude's comment above since it just makes fun of Johnny. Also, I probably shouldn't have typed be nice. i dont know what i was thinking. I think i just wanted a rhyme in there, and also to include a general suggestion of positivity, but deleting RegaDude's comment would delete your reply, and this is a conversation I'd like to keep around.
What did I do? In response to your comment of "be nice" to Johnny, I merely joked that you were asking a lot. A lot, because Johnny is often not nice. He is that way, that is a fact. I have no responsibility for his behavior. I just pointed it out.
Don't shoot the messenger!
What is reliability?
Think, Georgie, think.
the two links provided earlier giving examples of some DBTs.
I found the matrixhifi test to be ignorable: who is the sample? how did they select these people? how are they representative of a population of listeners as a whole? in order to gather significance from these these tests, the first and most important step is determining your sample, sample size, and how you select your sample. this just seems like a bunch of friends having fun. also, since there were multiple components being switched at the same time, system synergies could have been the cause of the weaker sounding more 'hi-fi' system. maybe those components weren't right for each other, but the cheaper system just sounded better. at least in ABX, they only changed one piece at a time
what i found interesting in the ABX test was the user's ability to control the change of system component themselves. this helps eliminate the idea that the listener might feel like they are getting 'duped' or constantly searching/guessing for the difference.
Also regarding the ABX method, the # of times a difference was heard was 33. the # of times no difference was heard: 29. Interestingly, cables were the least discernable.
DBT is time consuming and for signnificant results you need a large sample size (to represent a large population of listeners). With a small sample size, as in both of these tests, you risk a greatly flawed hypothesis and will lack confidence in your results.
I don't want to whip out my textbooks, b/c i have other stuff to do, but 17 listeners is not nearly large enough of a sample size to even represent a population of 70,000 Stereophile readers (for example). Then we run into an even bigger problem of "who" is selected-->ie what type of sample you are trying to represent.
I've heard repeatedly that H/K does have a successful DBT model. I'm sure it takes them years to perform each experiment, and it is wildly expensive and time consuming. You need a large sample size for any of this stuff to matter, not a few dudes in a basement.
More excuses from Stereophile? Why am I not surprised. You scoff and blow off any attempts at doing a DBT by the people I linked to yet when it comes to "reviewing" cables and amps it's suddenly okay to accept a sighted biased review as being true? Laughable sir but then I suppose you being an emploee have to toe the line. So be it.
I give up. Go on and trust your sighted "tests" while ignoring a DBT or even a SBT. I know your boss won't let you do any. He "knows" it all. *eyeroll*
Hey George! Ariel provided you with a more than satisfactory answer. So why are you still complaining? You never heard the expression "agree to disagree"?
Ariel is right; sample size is crucial. Anyone who has a basic knowledge of statistics understands this.
George was talking about simply doing a DBT or SBT among friends like he linked to. Let's say you and 5 pals think the "Humungo" amp blows away every other amp you have listened to. So you set up a simple DBT or even a SBT to see if you can RELIABLY pick which amp is which WITHOUT sighted bias. In other words using your EARS???? I have read on the forums here how much people rely upon "What I heard" yet don't trust a simple test to prove that they can.
So lets say the "Humungo" amp is just simply "liquid, lifts 400 veils and makes the back ground blacker", what ever silly terms you wish to use, If so then you should be able to pick it out 100% of the time doing a DBT. If not and lets say you only choose right 50% of the time then that's proof you were only guessing and couldn't tell which was which. So much for saying sample size is critical. If no one can pick the "Humungo" amp from the other one then where are your rationalisations for saying it's better?
I can tell though that none of you have even bothered to try a SBT or DBT so it's all a waste of time speaking to the peanut gallery. I love how much money you both have WASTED on pricey products that only look good and sound the same. Funny as hell, go on spending YOUR money I love it
JRusskie just beat himself with his own thinking...
Johnny wote:
"I can tell though that none of you have even bothered to try a SBT or DBT so it's all a waste of time speaking to the peanut gallery. I love how much money you both have WASTED on pricey products that only look good and sound the same. Funny as hell, go on spending YOUR money I love it"
How do you know what I've bought with my money? I will go on spending my money (but not on your plywood speakers you make in your basement), that's what it's made for!
.a fool and his money are soon parted.
"...came out to play,
Georgie Porgie ran away!"
Delusions of absolute truths cloaked in "science" aren't much to hide behind, eh Georgie...
I hear our Man of La Mancha, JRusskie, is looking for his Sancho Panza to accompany him on his journey in search for TRUTH.
Happy trails!
Georgie, Look at all those scientists backing you up!
If you take a college level research methodology course, Georgie, you may not appear so laughable. At this point, there appears to be very little knowledge in what you say about reviewing audio products.
Here is how you review audio products........ looks in Stereophile and buys whatever the product of the month is. Spends too much money but doesn't care. Goes online and talks like a 5 year old and spews insults and THINKS he's smart. Case closed.
George, name ONE SINGLE product that I have bought. Just one. You and Johnny have this little fantasy in which you think you know everything and everyone.
How about you list your gear? If you are so good and knowledgeable about buying audio products, do share with us the products that are George Holland worthy. If you actually have any audio gear...
ZzzzzzzzzZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz sorry but conversing with the likes of you is boring and makes my brain hurt considering the amount of BS you spew,
Do you like what you are hearing ? If no, move on until you do. If yes, then shut up and relax. This is a hobby focused on the enjoyment of the creative output of artists. It is not about how many proverbial angels can dance on the head of a pin.
Go listen to MUSIC !
Thanks John for a very interesting and exciting presentation, lots of interesting information here and I'm surprised, to say the least, from the lack of positive feedback.
There are many who are skeptical to some of the ways of doing measurements in Stereophile and in some ways I'm one of them too, especially the way speakers are measured so close, large array speakers like the bigger Dunlavy's and some others will not sum up very nicely in this way. We do, however, not live in a perfect world and Stereophile cannot afford an anechoic chamber, so this is probably the best they can do.
I wish John would share more of this kind of information as he has gathered lots of knowledge during a long interesting career at Stereophile and other places.
Go on John :-)
Merry Christmas
Cheers harald
John, thanks for getting this lecture pre-print available for us to read. I have been looking forward to this.
I agree that there is a lot fo information combined into one lecture that anyone would need a lot of time to learn and understand the details. Pardon me for paraphrasing some of your words below.
Regarding the null result of DBTs, your description of the interpretation is in agreement with what I remember from statistics classes. I might add that a statistician would include a probability value or confidence band with the interpretation (something to the effect that 'the null hypothesis of no-difference-detctable is accepted with high probability'), and equally for the case when a difference is detected with high probability. I personally think DBTs should be done for product reviews, but agree that valid DBT's are difficult and time consuming (expensive) to do correctly, as Dr. Toole has shown in his writings.
The example of the 'backwards' impulse being not agreeable to listeners is something I have noticed in reference to digital recording. It's a wave form that does not occur naturally in music production, so reproducing it should sound 'bothersome'.
I also agree with the previous post, that more articles like this would be welcomed, to further highlight how complicated this field really is.
I have read your essay with great pleasure (all of it!) and I think it is a great example of the Liberal Arts and Science coming together. In the end, it feels like a piece of applied music philosophy, which I find fascinating. It also seems to be free of busines-oriented interests, as your opinion on cables clearly suggests. It is awesome and very unsual to meet an accomplished person who gives priority to his passions and principles over financial interests (as also expressed on your 2012 writing on the CES and Las Vegas).
I consider myself to be an audiophile that turns off the lights and tries to connect his emotions with the music with a very relaxed mind (this seems to be a category in itself, as the un-relaxed passive listeners who cannot focus on the music on a mid to long term basis tend to be very opinionated). Having said this, I recently purchased a pair of Class D mono amps that can clearly connect me to the music (Hephaestus brand). I have not ever listened to amps which are over 15k. Within similar prices, class D seems to be the better choice (but how relative this can be, Jon!)
I will continue to follow your writings with deep admiration and I thank you for making a difference on my musical experience (which is passed on to my girlfriend and my child).
Clueless you are if you think Mr Atkinson is something special
It's a pity that some proponents of DBT as the only valid methodology have used the comments thread here to launch personal attacks against JA. Personally, I found the lecture fascinating and thought-provoking, and I thought that the nuggets of personal history provided a powerful context for the thoughtful opinions expressed. For better or worse, Stereophile doesn't restrict itself to DBTs as their only reviewing tool, but JA does measure every piece of gear his reviewers review - a practice which ensures that the opinions of the reviewers are grounded in objective data, or otherwise as the case may be. I'm not sure why this approach, coupled with a reliance on an income stream from advertising, seems to place JA in line for so much personal vitriol. If similar attacks were levelled at me in my professional life, I'd be mortified and enraged.
To cut what is risking becoming a lengthy expression of indignation short: thank-you JA for a wise and thought-provoking read.
"For better or worse, Stereophile doesn't restrict itself to DBTs as their only reviewing tool, but JA does measure every piece of gear his reviewers review - a practice which ensures that the opinions of the reviewers are grounded in objective data"
Do you even READ the reviews? Seriously dude. Stereophile DOESN'T do DBTs at ALL! Atkinson has said repeatedly that they are "too difficult to do". Show me ONE single DBT he has done in a review please. Plus he does NOT "measure every piece of gear his reviewers review". Cables, power cords, record demagnitizers, just to name a few. You obviously have been reading another publication NOT Stereophile.
If Stereophile has the principle of not doing DBT and for you doing so is a matter of principle why oh earth would you even care to read Stereophile? Your statement above suggests you have very extensive knowledge of the content of Stereophile's articles. So you keep reading stereophile's reviews knowing they are irremediably flawed?? How perverse is this?
The real question lies on your double blind tested hatred.
Whatever your answer is I will have to assume that your hatred is a broken record and it will just go on.
He probably reads them as I do for the laughs.
......on your error filled post above so why should I comment on your assumptions? If you wish to worship Fearless Leader then by all means bow down and do so. I myself prefer to ask questions and be skeptical about his "methods" and the reason "why" he doesn't test ALL items under review.
It's a pity that some proponents of DBT as the only valid methodology have used the comments thread here to launch personal attacks against JA.
Indeed. I am not sure why I have become a lightning rod for these audio skeptics. Perhaps it is because it is a matter of religious belief on their part - having had extensive experience of blind testing, I rejected it and thus became a heretic in their eyes. Or perhaps it is just our courtesy in allowing them the space on this website to express themselves.
JA does measure every piece of gear his reviewers review - a practice which ensures that the opinions of the reviewers are grounded in objective data, or otherwise as the case may be.
As my reviewers do not see the measurements until after they have written the review, I take my hat off to them.
To cut what is risking becoming a lengthy expression of indignation short: thank-you JA for a wise and thought-provoking read.
You're welcome and my thanks to everyone else who appreciated the preprint. It was an honor to have been invited by the Audio Engineering Society to give this lecture - it's not often that you get the opportunity to look back over a 4-decade career!
A Happy New Year to everyone who surfs this site.
John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile
You ignore the errors and just plow along blissfully gobbling up the unwarranted praise.
"JA does measure every piece of gear his reviewers review"
As I pointed out above, along with other errors on the part of Andreasmaaan,you do NOT test every piece of gear your reviewers review, but then you pretended that you do in your response. Only certain items are tested by you. Please get your own facts straight if that's even possible for you to do so.
Johnny, I wish you a great new year 2013, in which you sell 10 times more of your home made speakers than in 2012.
Since you sold zero of your speakers in 2012, you need to sell 10 X 0=0 speakers in 2013 to meet this objective. Maybe you can hire George Holland as your director of marketing and sales...
Get cracking, you have only got 364 days left to sell your quota...
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Unlike yourself Raghead, I will be DESIGNING and BUILDING my own speakers and learning. You do know that word "learning"? Hmmmm maybe you stopped after age 10. You on the other hand will be on here *yawning* and acting the fool and spending your money on Stereophile reviewed crapola.
So according to you Johnny, everything Stereophile reviews is crapola?! There is not one good piece of equipment that has been reviewed by Stereophile? Hundreds of reviews, not one good product?
But you, in your basement, build quality speakers...
I have challenged you before (as well as George) to name your gear. What kind of gear merits the Johnny seal of approval?
As always, you always ignore my challenge (George chickened out to). It seems you can only complain, but cannot even provide a list of your gear.
I guess ever seeing pictures of your "famous" speakers is also out of the question.
All talk and no action.
So Johnny, where are your speakers pics and specs?
In your imagination.... [flame deleted by JA]
Johnny never offered to show you anything other than his backside which I think is approriate considering the childish actions of yourself.What does it matter what our audio components are? Anything we mention would be ridiculed by yourself no doubt. Sorry but I'm not playing your silly game. Good God grow up and act like a man for once will you?
As I pointed out above . . . you do NOT test every piece of gear your reviewers review, but then you pretended that you do in your response. Only certain items are tested by you. Please get your own facts straight if that's even possible for you to do so.
Out of morbid curiosity, I looked at the past 15 issues of Stereophile - we published 98 full reviews and follow-up reviews. Of those 98 reviews, 83 were accompanied with a full set of measurements, or 84.5%. So even if not every review includes measurements, the vast majority do, which supports Andreasmaaan's point.
I have explained to you before, in other comment threads, why we do not publish measurements of analog playback components, which is due to lack of resources. I have also explained to you why we do not publish measurements of tweaks, which is that it it is difficult to determine exactly what to measure. I don't see any reason to reopen those discussions, but that you continue to be fixated on these two issues and continue to raise them is sad.
And, as I have warned you, JohnnyR, I am continuing to delete comments from you, and others, that are nothing more than flames aimed at other readers.
John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile
"Reviews" means just that, any item reviewed by your staff. If you think "tweaks" don't qualify then they should be labled as "Opinions" not a review. All of those full reviews you speak of were what speakers, amps, preamps, cd transposrts and the like?
Yeah I know why you don't test tweaks, that would involve you using those horrible SBT or DBT. That's a really nice system you have set up. "We don't believe in DBTs or do them or can't afford to do them"......"We don't know what to test on the tweaks"..........add the two up and you get "We don't have to show that tweaks actually do anything other than what our "reviewer" subjectivly alludes to in their sighted biased listening using their golden ears"......EXCUSES Mr Atkinson plain and simple.
Once more I ask you to read and comment about this link:
You seem to think DIY can't do anything right in your previous post in answer to Raghead. Insulting intelligent people that actually build better speakers than the status quo can produce is beyond being pompus in your case.THAT is what's SAD.
Don't you have some real work to be doing instead of being on the forums? I thought that was Ariel's job. Let him earn his pay.
Look up "fixation" and "perseveration" in your dictionary. "Absolute truths" regarding audio products seems to exist only in your basement and in your head.
I looked at the past 15 issues of Stereophile - we published 98 full reviews and follow-up reviews. Of those 98 reviews, 83 were accompanied with a full set of measurements, or 84.5%. So even if not every review includes measurements, the vast majority do, which supports Andreasmaaan's point.
"Reviews" means just that, any item reviewed by your staff. If you think "tweaks" don't qualify then they should be labled as "Opinions" not a review.
I am not sure what you mean. You were objecting to Andreasmaan's statement that Stereophile accompanies its reviews with measurements as not being true. I offered the analysis above to show that he was correct.
Once more I ask you to read and comment about this link:
You need to consult with your fellow traveler GeorgeHolland, who criticized me about linking to other sites :-)
You seem to think DIY can't do anything right in your previous post in answer to [Regadude.] Insulting intelligent people that actually build better speakers than the status quo can produce is beyond being pompus in your case.THAT is what's SAD.
With respect, you are arguing with the voices in your head here. I haven't written anything about DIY speaker designers not being able to do "anything right." What I have said is that a DIY designer, like yourself, doesn't subject his loudpeakers to the scrutiny of a disinterested marketplace, something professional designers do as a matter of course. So the question whether or not DIY designs are superior to commercial designs isn't put under independent scrutiny. It remains unsupported conjecture, as far as I am concerned.
John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile
Mr Atkinson, you could compare DIY against manufactured speakers but of course you won't. Might upset those that can't make good speakers and I'm not talking about the DIY
Johnny plainly stated that "tweaks" are reviewed in your magazine and online yet they aren't tested, hence you don't test every component under review. You have a reading comprehension problem? How many components reviewed by Jason Serinus have been tested? uh huh, right.
So now you wuss out about commenting on links? That proves you had nothing to say in the first place about it so you shouldn't have opened your mouth.Cop out time for Mr Atkinson.
The only unsupported conjecture on here are your abilities to print honest reviews. Your ability to avoid testing alot of audio components is well known by now. Very impressive spinning you do on here.
Mr Atkinson, you could compare DIY against manufactured speakers but of course you won't. Might upset those that can't make good speakers and I'm not talking about the DIY
Back in the early 1990s, Stereophile's Corey Greenberg was one of the judges for a DIY loudpeaker competition in San Francisco. There were 2 winning designs and as part of the prize, those 2 speakers were subject to a full set of measurements in Stereophile, published in the March 1992 issue. The speakers' measured performance was good but not great and certainly didn't embarass professional designers.
Johnny plainly stated that "tweaks" are reviewed in your magazine and online yet they aren't tested, hence you don't test every component under review. You have a reading comprehension problem?
I don't believe so. JohnnyR was wrong, in that we very rarely publish full reviews of tweak products. Of the 98 reviews published in the magazine January 2012 through March 2013, there was just one review of a "tweak," Robert Deutsch on the HiFi Tuning Supreme Fuses in May 2012. ( I don't count the AudioQuest power strip reviewed by Kal Rubinson's review in December 2012 as Kal didn't make any comment on its sound quality, only on its utllity.)
How many components reviewed by Jason Serinus have been tested? uh huh, right.
The correct answer is none. But that doesn't support JohnnyR's case either, as Jason's reviews are published on the website Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity, which has no connection with Stereophile. I hardly believe I am obliged to support reviews of products in competing publications with measurements in Stereophile.
John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile
"Back in the early 1990s, Stereophile's Corey Greenberg was one of the judges for a DIY loudpeaker competition in San Francisco. There were 2 winning designs and as part of the prize, those 2 speakers were subject to a full set of measurements in Stereophile, published in the March 1992 issue. The speakers' measured performance was good but not great and certainly didn't embarass professional designers."
Golly "only" 20 years ago and as we all know, nothing new has happened since then to make speaker design any better (Insert BIG sarcasm face here) Talk about a lame example Atkinson.
Yeah yeah, "full reviews" whatever, Plenty of "little revews" though all the freakin time and all they are , are OPINIONS but you know what? You let your reviewers get away with murdering the intergrity of the audio world with their stupid banter about "blacker backgrounds,lifted veils and HUGE improvements in the sound" without them having to justify their claims, Pretty slick there pal.
Oh and Jason Serinus "reviews" as posted about the recent RMAF isn't connected to Stereophile? Give us all a break, Your EXCUSES are even lamer this time than usual.
Yep typical Fearless Leader goobley gook. Did you major in Universisty in the double speak of Orwell's 1984? If not then you are gulity of plagiarizing the concept.
Golly "only" 20 years ago and as we all know, nothing new has happened since then to make speaker design any better...
Again you are arguing with the voices in your head, JohnnyR. Of course a lot has happened in the past 20 years, especially the advent of low-cost measuring equipment. But you're missing my point, which is, as I wrote earlier today, that a DIY designer doesn't subject his loudpeakers to the scrutiny of a disinterested marketplace, something professional designers do as a matter of course. You have repeatedy claimed that your speakers are as good as if not better than commercial designs. However, unlike engineers like Kevin Voecks, Paul Barton, Richard Vandersteen, Jeff Joseph, etc, your ability to pay your mortgage and feed your family doesn't depend on your skill as a speaker designer. Their's does, and it makes a difference.
Look, if you seriously believe your speaker designs are fully competitve with commercial designs, email me your measurements. I'll get back to you with my interpretation of what they mean, assuming they are as comprehensive as what I publish with every Stereophile speaker review. Put up or shut up.
Yeah yeah, "full reviews" whatever, Plenty of "little revews" though all the freakin time and all they are , are OPINIONS but you know what? You let your reviewers get away with murdering the intergrity of the audio world with their stupid banter about "blacker backgrounds,lifted veils and HUGE improvements in the sound" without them having to justify their claim...
You're not making sense. "Andreasmaaan" was discussing reviews in the magazine being accompanied by measurements. I was discussing reviews in the magazine being accompanied by measurements. You seem to be discussing something that exists only in your mind. And unlike Professor Dumbledore's quote, that doesn't mean it's real :-)
Oh and Jason Serinus "reviews" as posted about the recent RMAF isn't connected to Stereophile?
That was a show report. No-one other than yourself equates a magazine's coverage of a show with its formal equipment reviews. Are you seriously suggesting that magazines shouldn't publish show reports without including a full set of measurement data for each room they report on? Really? There isn't an audio magazine or website that does that.
John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile
Go have another pink drink Fearless Leader.
Me let YOU interpet my frequency response? Don't make me LAUGH. You can't even interpept Wilson't ragged ass frequency response
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Look, if you seriously believe your speaker designs are fully competitve
with commercial designs, email me your measurements. I'll get back to
you with my interpretation of what they mean, assuming they are as
comprehensive as what I publish with every Stereophile speaker review.
Me let YOU interpet my frequency response? Don't make me LAUGH.
You make my point for me, JohnnyR. It was a serious offer on my part. Professional loudspeaker designers send out their products for review and for the public scrutiny of possible customers. Amateur speaker designers, such as yourself, are often afraid to let anyone else judge their work.
John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophilee
I have been challenging Johnny tp provide pictures and or the specs of his speakers. He has never met my challenge.
Now the editor of Stereophile offers to look over his data. Johnny again makes up excuses to avoid providing any information on his heavenly speakers.
Big talker...
Dear Jon,
What should have been an enlightening discussion of your great lecture has been contaminated by ill-conceived comments. Some individuals have posted comments that have created an environment of nastiness.
I would seriously urge you to start deleting ill-conceived comments from now on, whether they use flamable language or not. Some people are just turned on by the flames, but others aren't. And those others would much rather focus on the joy of engaging in the music and exchanges related to it.
You do not run a state-owned site but a private one that is likely to become a lot less lucrative (in all senses) if such nasty comments are to become visible.
I am not even pointing out names and we all know who I am talking about.
I am just giving you feedback that comes from an avid reader of Stereophile online.
Finally, the correction of my use of English was mentioned by one of these individuals. Please allow me to say that English is my second language and it is oxidized. Sorry about that.
Thx for posting this lecture, JA!!
I also saw the Wilkinson/HTG YouTube video/interview in which you summed up some highlights of the AES lecture.
A question about the non-oversampling vs. oversampling debate ... you (JA) noted that people (subjective listeners) prefer the NOS DAC.
Was there a formal test (or survey) conducted that you may be referring to?
As far as NOS vs OS ... this has been an especially active (and debated) topic in the DIY community.
Older DACs (multibit R2R, not Sigma-Delta or one-bit MASH/bitstream) are commonly used in various DIY projects/experiments. And, all else held equal (e.g., all one does is shunt the OS chip in an older CD player), many audio hobbyists do, indeed, prefer NOS -- but many also do not (the ones who prefer OS note that once clean, well-regulated power is provided to the digital-filter IC, you get much better sound).
My own "breadboard" experiments convinces me OS is better, tho' the NOS sound has some (few!) nice qualities not present in OS. This is almost like the age-old tube vs. SS debate.
I am aware of the very $$ Zanden DAC, and that's NOS, as are the modern AudioNote CD player and the HiFiMan 602. But almost all other commercial DAC (or digital sections) equipment since the late 1980s uses digital filtering (oversampling). And, I believe, OS has won out the mass-market and high-end/audiophile market for sound, important reasons (e.g., production costs vs. fidelity; or the all-important implementation issue: it's not just the DAC chip, but, also, decoder, pwr supply, output stage, etc.)
It's difficult to isolate the benefits/drawbacks of digital-filtering -- other than the shunting/bypassing method I described above -- due to various manuf/model designs using wide array of topologies, parts, etc. In other words ... Zanden (NOS) vs. Theta or Wadia (OS).
One final note ...
The 1st- and 2nd-generation CDPs were criticized in the audiophile community for having sub-std. sound. TTBOMK, these early players were all NOS.
Then came DF chips like Philips SAA7220 (famous for the faceplate moniker: "Fourfold Oversampling Digital Filter"), and commercial (read: not modded or souped-up Philips units from Meridian/Cambridge/etc.), started to gain acceptance by serious audiophiles/reviewers.
Examples of this included various Philips/Magnavox, Yamaha and (of course) Sony models sold in department stores/mail-order-outlets at hugely-discounted prices.
So what happened to improve the sound? Was it mostly/partly OS? And/or was it better DACs? And/or better (analog) output stages? And/or better overall topologies, tighter tolerances, better PCB layout, more careful PS design?
Some of the zero-oversampling fanboyism is strange (other than the one-more-time-parasite-for-the-bored-audiophile pathology). In DIY threads and modern eBay Chinese kits (or even complete D/A NOS processors, mostly from China) new-old-stock DACs (like TDA1541 or TDA1545/1387) are used with just a simple output section and a $2 USB decoder (or S/PDIF receiver) to get data from some source.
The image below is a top-down view of a complete D/A processor based on a TDA1387 (Philips multibit R2R DAC IC from mid 1990s) -- it's a non-(zero-)oversampling config. (but uses 8 TDA1387s in parallel).
It's from China and sells for less than $125 (eBay, Taobao, etc.). I have no idea how it sounds.
The main point, however, is that: this is a fairly new offering in the marketplace ... but it's all OLD-SCHOOL ... simple topology/layout, R2R DAC, etc ... many engineers were doing this type of stuff in the mid-1980s, and henceforth.
So why is old new again?! Does NOS, indeed, sound better because most audiophiles (esp. young people, but also older geeks/reviewers who sold/got rid of their "vintage" gear) have heard nothing but oversampling or Delta-Sigma digital?
These probing queries go right to the heart of the AES lecture. Indeed, the Wilkinson video interview on Home Theater Geeks had this title: Episode 84: What Is Reality?
What is Reality?
Another aspect of recorded/playback audio (and psychoacoustiics and related biology) is how human perception deals with:
-- NATURAL acoustic events, such as wind, leaves, birds, crickets, human voice
(IOW: random, short-duration, relatively QUIET events -- the type/duration of acoustics humans dealt with for most of the species' evolutionary history)
...vs. more "recent" acoustic exposures , such as ...
-- MUSIC/MEDIA(movies, tv/GAMING/URBAN ENVIRONMENTS
(these are much more continuous/linear, longer-duration, and louder events than what was statistically-signif. for most of hominid's evol. history).
With music, especially, there is so much more complexity (including the four std. music-theory qualities: harmony, tonality/timbre, rhythm, melody). Add words (song, opera, lyrics) .... and you have to, then, also engage the brain's symbolic/language interpreters ...hence, brain/mind acoustic organs are starting to get a real workout.
But let's not stop there: a good (= engaging) film with a complex orchestral score in the soundtrack makes things even more complicated -- i.e. the added visual-system integration! And the smell/flavor of popcorn and the sweetness/wetness/caffeine of that cola ...
I think the brain/mind can "learn" to cope with all this newer multi-tasking sensory environment. It (brain/mind) does seem to really like sensory "overload." Or movies and audio systems wouldn't be so popular.
To get to the point: Nature is a tough task-mistress. If you want to know her secrets, you've gotta have the passion for hard work (= scientific/empirical data colelction and careful analysis) AND passion for philosophical engagement. JA has done much of this in the 2011 AES lecture. Good work!
BTW: One (of the many, many) reasons classic objectivists' tests (like ABX) are flawed is that they (mostly) concentrate on short/excerpted chunks of music tracks.


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HOUSTON, May 31, 2013 /PRNewswire/ -- Kraton Performance Polymers, Inc. (NYSE: KRA), a leading global producer of styrenic block copolymers and other engineered polymers will present a paper and exhibit at Techtextil, June 11-13 in Frankfurt, Germany highlighting NEXAR™ polymer coatings. Kraton will be located in Hall 3.1 booth number J33 . Dr. Richard Blackwell, Senior Scientist with Kraton Polymers will host a technical presentation entitled "New Selectively Sulfonated Pentablock Copolymer Imparts Cooling Comfort to Textiles and Nonwovens." The presentation is scheduled for Wednesday, June 12 th at 12:20 pm – 12:45 pm. To view the multimedia assets associated with this release, please click: http://www.multivu.com/mnr/45712-kraton-techtextil-frankfurt-2013-nexar-cooling-technologyNEXAR polymer's moisture activated cooling technology is designed to utilize the body's natural sweating process to fuel an active cooling process. As moisture is absorbed from the skin surface, NEXAR polymer swells and binds with the moisture, which, when released to the environment provides a cooling effect that exceeds other technologies. Unlike other technologies available in the marketplace, NEXAR polymer coatings do not require complicated fiber or fabric construction and do not rely on a thermal activation. "We want to capitalize on the momentum of the recent commercial success of NEXAR polymers by continuing the conversation with textile industry leaders about how NEXAR's moisture activated cooling technology is a real game changer," said Holger Jung, Vice President Sales and Marketing. "The evolution of NEXAR polymers creates new opportunities for use as a coating, laminate, or additive. Its unique properties make it suitable for the performance fabrics markets including protective clothing, industrial uniforms, bedding, military and intimate apparel." For more information on NEXAR polymers, please stop by the booth J33 during show hours or visit us at www.kraton.com. About Kraton PolymersKraton Performance Polymers, Inc., through its operating subsidiary Kraton Polymers LLC and its subsidiaries, is a leading global producer of engineered polymers and styrenic block copolymers ("SBCs"), a family of products whose chemistry was pioneered by us almost fifty years ago. SBCs are highly-engineered thermoplastic elastomers, which enhance the performance of numerous products by delivering a variety of attributes, including greater flexibility, resilience, strength, durability and processability. Our polymers are used in a wide range of applications, including adhesives, coatings, consumer and personal care products, sealants and lubricants, and medical, packaging, automotive, paving, roofing and footwear products. We currently offer approximately 800 products to more than 700 customers in over 60 countries worldwide, and are the only SBC producer with manufacturing and service capabilities on four continents. We manufacture products at five plants globally, including our flagship plant in Belpre, Ohio, as well as plants in Germany, France and Brazil, and a joint venture plant operated in Japan. Forward Looking Statements This press release may contain "forward-looking statements," which are statements other than statements of historical fact and are often characterized by the use of words such as "believes," "expects," "estimates," "projects," "may," "will," "intends," "plans" or "anticipates," or by discussions of strategy, anticipated performance, plans or intentions. All forward-looking statements in this press release are made based on management's current expectations and estimates, which involve risks, uncertainties and other factors that could cause results to differ materially from those expressed in forward-looking statements. These risks and uncertainties are more fully described in "Part I. Item 1A. Risk Factors" contained in our Annual Report on 10-K, as filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission and as subsequently updated in our Quarterly Reports on Form 10-Q. We hereby make reference to all such filings for all purposes. Readers are cautioned not to place undue reliance on forward-looking statements. We assume no obligation to update such information. Kraton, the Kraton logo and design, Cariflex, NEXAR and the "Giving Innovators their Edge" tagline are all trademarks of Kraton Polymers LLC. © Kraton Performance Polymers, Inc. 2013. All rights reserved.
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Norwich — Behind Norwich Free Academy's Cranston Hall on Friday, the buff-and-polished parked cars were vintage. The assembled kids looked like proper 1960s Catholic-school students — the boys in maroon blazers, ties and slacks, and the girls decked out in classic jumpers — hanging out at recess. The nuns looking on were dressed in full habit.
This is the feature-film world of "Wishin' and Hopin'," Wally Lamb's best-selling novella set in 1964. Synthetic Cinema International, based in Rocky Hill, is shooting the movie adaptation of this tale of 10-year-old Felix's life during one Christmas season in fictional Three Rivers, Conn.
Friday was the second of a 23-day shoot in and around Norwich.
Wyatt Ralff, who had a small role in "Moonrise Kingdom," portrays Felix. The starriest names, though, are in the supporting cast. Meat Loaf plays a priest, and Cheri Oteri, formerly of "Saturday Night Live," is a nun.
Here's how this project came about: Andrew Gernhard, who is Synthetic's co-owner and producer, grew up in Norwich and was a student of Lamb at Norwich Free Academy. Gernhard said they reconnected on Facebook a couple years back, and he eventually asked Lamb about turning one of his books into a feature film. Lamb's novels have been optioned by companies but have yet to become movies.
Lamb is an executive producer on "Wishin' and Hopin'," although John Doolan wrote the screenplay. Colin Theys, another Synthetic vet, is directing.
Lamb popped into the set on Thursday and is expected to return. He might even make a cameo appearance as a janitor putting up Christmas decorations, Gernhard said.
During its decade of existence, Synthetic has become known for making monster films and thrillers — including the zombie film "Steve Niles' Remains" that it shot in Norwich in 2011. It's now expanding its range. Synthetic's biggest steps outside of that past style are "Wishin' and Hopin'," along with a romantic comedy and an inspirational release.
It'll be a fast turnaround for "Wishin' and Hopin'." Gernhard expects it to be out in late October or November, with a limited theatrical release and then TV play.
For the shoot, NFA has been transformed. A modern classroom has, thanks to furniture and props, morphed into a 1960s throwback. The desks are retro, the Venetian blinds are wooden, and the map pulls down, old-school style. A faculty lounge has been rejiggered to become the mother superior's office, with an entryway that's been carpeted and painted a vibrant red.
The "Wishin' and Hopin'" storyline takes place in November and December, which brings certain challenges when the shoot is taking place during the summer. Two student extras joked with each other about what the actual temperature was when they had to do an outdoor scene while wearing black fleece jackets — 87, 90, or 100 million degrees.
Digital work will help the July scenes look as though they happened in December. Gernhard said the exteriors will be color-corrected to look more like winter, and the filmmakers will digitally insert snow into the landscape and steam coming out of the actors' mouths.
Some of the extras are from the region. Liz MacAdie of Norwich gets to be a nun. It's not her first time in a movie filmed in the city; she was part of "Everybody Wins" starring Nick Nolte and Debra Winger. She also knows Wally Lamb, since he was a student teacher at NFA when she was a student.
Others, though, are from far afield — New York, Boston — and come with plenty of credits. Olivia Pungilore, 12, of Boston, for instance, appeared in the movie "Ted." Emily Weiner, 11, of Windsor played Tiny Tim in Hartford Stage's "A Christmas Carol."
Good times have already been had. Anna Greenwald, 13, of Marlborough happily recalled filming a scene Thursday in which a creature gets loose during class.
"It was a lot of fun. We had to act bored, then we acted like there was a bat in the room and freaked out," she said.
There was no real bat, just a laser pointer to show where the kids should look and where the bat will be inserted later on.
The nun who has a bit of a breakdown during that scene is played by Oteri, who, Gernhard said, is a big Wally Lamb fan. She told Gernhard that "She's Come Undone" is her favorite book and wanted to meet Lamb. She did, and Tweeted a photo of them together.
When it comes to fandom, Gernhard might be the most enthusiastic, though.
"I've been a fan of Meat Loaf since I was in junior high, so me getting to be in a car, talking to him about anything was the highlight. I almost cried," he said. "My entire life is dictated by basically three subjects — 'Dr. Who,' 'Ghostbusters,' and Meat Loaf."
"Wishin' and Hopin'" will continue filming at locations ranging from Charlene's Diner in Jewett City to Main Street in Norwich.
"NFA has been phenomenal," said Gernhard, who graduated in 1995. "I couldn't ask anything more."
Folks at the school even dug out some 1960s items from storage for the movie, including shelving and old cast-iron hydraulics for doors.
Gernhard said he loves that Lamb wrote the book "about Connecticut and wrote it about Norwich and New London, basically."
"It's rare to shoot in the place the writer or the screenwriter thought of," he said. "I mean, last time we were shooting in Norwich (with the zombie film), we had to turn it into Reno."
Editor's note: This version corrects the spelling of Anna Greenwald's name.
The "Wishin' and Hopin'" filmmakers are looking for extras for an Aug. 3 shoot in Slater Auditorium at Norwich Free Academy. Those extras would play audience members for a Christmas pageant. People must be available all day, and all extras are non-union. For more information, visit syntheticcinema.com.
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I hope I can get by with my only language, English, for as long as possible...Japanese sounds, well, a bit scary.Originally posted by Trekn
All major business is done with Japanese anyways. Maybe more of us should learn Japanese. I would guess that to be the most difficult.
I remember (ok, I'm not flaming on Japanese, now,) seeing a movie (maybe, "Tora, Tora, Tora," or something) in which a Japanese clerk was typing a letter. We type letters fast. Not this clerk. Each Japanese character represented a word, like "man," or "house." Should be fast, right? No way. It was "hunt and peck" at a snails pace. Can you imagine how many keys that keyboard had on it?
I wonder if that's changed, or do the Japanese still use keyboards like that, or have they developed a special typing alphabet for the computer age?
Hello, Mike? Is our resident Japanese expert (and sports commentator) out there?


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[PS3/Vita Double Review] Atomic Ninjas
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Grip Games is working on Atomic Ninjas as an exclusive PSN release for both PS3 and Vita. You might remember Grip Games from our reviews for Mini Squadron, Blimp: The Flying Adventures, The Impossible Game or One Epic Game, and now they're ready to bring Atomic Ninjas to PS3 and Vita. The PS3 version is set for a Summer release and the Vita version will be released in the fall.
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If You Could Have Any Super Power; What Would It Be?
If I could get any super power; what would it be?
Well that is a hard one to answer since there are so many super powers to choose from. I could be invisible, a mind manipulater or reader, control nature and so much more!
I guess I would like the abbility to fly. Yes. I know it is simple, but I think it is pretty rad. I wouldn't walk anymore. I would just fly. I would fly up so high that no one could bother. It would just be me, the sky, the wind, and some flock of birds thinking, "What the Hell is that thing?" I could just fly away from society and land in some deserted place from the rest of humanity. I could fly up the the highest structures. I could fly and wach the rest of the world scurry away like ants. There is just so much freedom if one could fly.
So that is why I think being able to fly would be an awesome abbility.
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And thus, Laura Sharp's sorority was born. Like Brock Pearson said, it's a miracle, especially one made totally at last minute.
Yeah, since the Scare Games originated in Monsters University by former student Dean Hardscrabble, Laura's former school Fear Tech followed them...though not exact to detail.
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EDIT: I'd like to thank my good friend and fellow MU fan for suggesting a few things that I decided to edit this chapter, like near the end with background characters/snarkers Marbus and Theo(the slug guy) during the flashback where OK was trying to look for Laura's dorm. He deserves a lot of credit.
Stay tuned for chapter 4!
Yeah, since the Scare Games originated in Monsters University by former student Dean Hardscrabble, Laura's former school Fear Tech followed them...though not exact to detail.
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EDIT: I'd like to thank my good friend and fellow MU fan for suggesting a few things that I decided to edit this chapter, like near the end with background characters/snarkers Marbus and Theo(the slug guy) during the flashback where OK was trying to look for Laura's dorm. He deserves a lot of credit.
Stay tuned for chapter 4!
Is it funny that I was enjoying how each of the characters have their own type of diversity, then I proceeded to read the part where Laura was saying the same thing that I was thinking?
wait ez.....isn't that the name of rocky's knd sector?
Okay, here we go for my comment. I have read it a few more times to appreciate the effort put into Randall's section of the story as well as the moments with Oozma Kappa, although I would love to see Mike and Sulley doing their mail jobs while Mike dates Celia Mae.
I love the moment for the OK gang, which is so in tune with their movie selves, as well as Squishy's mother. I also love the reference to what happened to the previous scare games. I also like the scene for Monnie with Katy, really brings out their friendship moment as roommates, as well as Colette and Dot, really in tune with their character personalities and character design! I love the mention of the "Bridezilla magazine" from Colette, and she's really like rarity when it comes to fashion design! Nice reference to the OK wedding at chapter one! I love that so much!
Laura brought Archie to class?! Hope Professor Knight and Dean Hardscrabble does not find out! Looks like Archie has become her pet again, and that I liked very much, and there's nothing FearTech can do about it. XD I wonder if they will steal Archie back again. Love the class moment with Squishy and Laura, really shows the chemistry between them, albeit slowly at first, but building bit by bit until a romance blossoms. Ah, nice moment of reference to Randall, and I especially loved how you wrote about the OK gang's characterizations in this scene, really shows their personalities and character very well, and I love the various character tics you put for each and every one of them.
I will be honest now: Terry Perry is a clueless chick monster magnet, while Terri Perry is his clueless wingman. LOLZ Nice odd friendship between Nadya and Naomi, and I find it kind of sweet that Naomi was still struggling with her feelings with Terry Perry, although I am sure her sisters of PNK would have noticed it by now. I wonder what will be their reactions be when they find out. Nice friendly reminder that they are still competitors XD Katy still has her dreams in her mind, and I love that little nugget. XD Ah Johnny and ROR are at it again, and I noticed that he has got his eyes on the prize, and it ain't the trophy of the Scare Games. The moment when Laura wanted to get into ths Scare Games, followed by the eventual forming from Monnie, Katy, Colette and Dot is really, really intense, so intense THAT I WISHED THIS WHOLE SCENE COULD BE ANIMATED BY PIXAR! (Marbus and Theo would be somewhere on an elevated platform with a nice view of the Scare Games Announcement Stage, and I bet they both would be watching with barely held breath...and so is Seya Sephira with the rest of her buddies) And behold! A new team is formed! As brock would say, "IT'S A MIRACLE INDEED!" Thank you for editing the Dean's speech, it flows better now! I especially love the various sororities all trying to get Laura for their own team! XD Oh sherry, Laura is standing on your car, and so is the rest of the Sorority she formed! XD
I would say this: You just may have redeemed the most misunderstood character in Monsters Inc. in my eyes. Randall is such a woobie in the scene that I just wanna glomp him and tuck him to sleep LOLZ. (No offense Monnie) The whole scene of Randall with the ROR was just tugging at heartstrings, as well as his thoughts, his motivations and his reflections on what he has done in the events of the movie. (although the slightly evil grin at the OK's humiliation was kinda harsh - but I can believe he's putting on an act in front of the ROR) And the rejection followed by him working on his cupcakes just felt even more heartbreaking, as well as the loss of his roommate Mike and the best student in the whole scaring class sullivan. Nice scene to show Monnie's protective personality for Randall, as I loved that scene very much, speaks volumes about her bravery and later her hitching with Randall as a couple later XD Johnny worthington is just asking for it. And I am glad he got what he deserved at this scene. Also, the mention of Randall's ability and how he coped with life in MU after the movie was very heart breaking, and the OK gang's acceptance of him was just so heartwarming! I especially love Don's comments as well as Johnny's and the Terry brothers! XD Yeah, he must have given in to peer pressure, but that's how college life is, and Don's words nailed it perfectly. I also like how you wrote about the difference between OK and ROR, which is very true. One focuses on friendships, while the other focuses on successes. Mrs Carlton cuddling and kissing Randall HAS TO BE THE CUTEST THING EVER! WE NEED A PICTURE OF THIS!
The whole scene of the Laura getting to know her friends reminds me of Toy Story 3 mixed with a bit of My Little Pony. I especially like how you described each and every one of the OCs, and the details you go into describing their character design and how they looked. Really gives a nice visualisation of themselves to the readers! I like how they talked about how Laura met them on her first day, causing accidents that coincidentally brought them all together! I also like how you described their personalities and characters, which really shows what type of characters they are and how they would prove themselves in the scare games, as well as each of their hopes and dreams. Yes they have diversity from the rest of the fraternities and the sororities, and I am sure this is what will give Laura and her team an edge in the upcoming Scare Games.
I was laughing when the OK gang piled into the room, that is so in tune with their characters, and that is probably what they will do. Nice introduction for the OK gang to the bunch of monster gals, and I am sure there is some romantic tension between Randall and Monnie. XD Love the initiation, which is unique and takes a branch from OK's initiation XD I also love the way each member makes a wish and throws a coin to symbolise them wishing. And what's even better is having Mike, Sulley, OK Gang and many other monsters from the rest of the fraternities and sororities as well as several bystanders watching, along with Brock and Claire. I especially like the moment each member makes their wish and throws the coin, which really shows their dreams in its purest form. My personal favourite is Laura's one, followed closely by Colette. XD Hehe, Marbus and Theo has a new team to root for besides Oozma Kappa, and thank you for including Seya Sephira too. You can edit the scene with the redone piece I have sent you in the note, it flows better. XD And thanks for accepting my idea about the flashback for OK Gang accidentally interrupting Marbus and Theo in their Monster Chess Game. It is really hilarious and I am glad I can incorporate that scene into this chapter.
Nice name for a new Sorority! I love the ring to it and I hope for them to Exceed what they are now in the Scare Games! So catchy! I love the sound of it too: Exceeda Zeta! XD (EZ! Woohoo!) I also LOLed when Laura broke Katy's branch and incinerated both halves, which really shows that she has a limit to what she can tale and you do NOT want to see her mad. I am sure Johnny is even more liking her now! XD And I am sure her sorority sisters and the OK gang would be even more careful of Laura now XD I feel really sorry for Naomi, my heart wrenches for her, trust me. And there goes Nadya again...I hope to see more of scenes like this, and I hope Naomi can talk to Terry for real in the later chapters. (I am bracing myself for the conversation which I know would not be kind to Naomi) I love the appearance of Ms Carlton, and her moment with Randall was so sweet! I also like how Archie barg in with the camera in his mouth: he has become Exceeda Zeta's Team Pet now! XD And I also love the tricks he showed off to everyone present XD The final scene was so nice, and the mayhem is just part of the charm. I am sure that picture has a place of honor in both EZ's photo album as well as OK's too! And the final sentence makes my heart all fuzzy: Laura and Squishy! XD I am sure their love will blossom soon! XD
Seriously, I can't stop fangushing all over this chapter, it is packed with enough information and likeable scenes for me to melt into a puddle of goo in front of my laptop. I like the reference that FT has a Scare Games, and it is slightly different from the one in MU, and I am sure Laura and her gang of friends would be in for many surprises! XD As usual, I hope to see more characters from the various fraternities and sororities having lines and scenes to their own, as well as other students making an appearance, such as those from the year(fear)book as well as the essential guide. (I loved the Brynn Larson one, as well as Heather Olsen) XD I would also love to see some more class scenes, such as introducing some other teachers and their class lessons, and perhaps some quirks and scenes we wouldn't see in the movie. Chet's comment near the end was so in character, I like him more and more now! XD
As usual, excellent work, and I am looking forward to more for the next chapter, which features the toxicity challenge! XD
Extra: Homecoming Season is coming right? I hope to see mentions of Stephanie Dallmar, as well as her trying to get Johnny worthinton out for a date XD And please do have a scene from Marbus's point of view when in the field, especially due to the large amount of football players running around to grab the football, and I hope FearTech can PUT UP A FIGHT NOW! XD Something unexpected would be perfect. And I am guessing Theo would be cheering with Sephira and Mrs Carlton, the OK Gang and EZ! XD
Extra: A scene for a conversation between Dean Hardscrabble and Professor Knight after class would be nice too, to give insight on their relationship and remember that scene I noted you on? Would be perfect for teasing the shippers of them both. XD
I'm going to see into those specified scenes.
Yeah, Art's blunt when he doesn't mean to. And that being said...those Fear Tech people ARE dummies for making Laura so late into the new semester.
Yeah, I know, people are wondering what'll happen next because sooner of later Laura's former alma mater will want to claim him back. Don's personality was the most fun to do.
Compared to the Scare Games, Naomi's competition is just as severe. It really is a miracle...how EMBARRASSING it was for Laura in front of everyone when she had NO idea how different the Scare Games were from Fear Tech.
Glad you liked Randall's scene, and yeah, like Monnie's profile said, she WILL kick Johnny's tail if he does anything to her intended love interest. Don is a father despite being a 'frat brother', and he really can connect with Randall, much like Mrs. Carlton...yeah, there are going to be a lot more kisses where those come from!
With the Scare Games...meaning a lot more panic attacks. Katy isn't the only monster who will have to aid Laura to BREATH.
I thank you for giving me good dialogue and will edit as soon as possible. Yeah, I think I got the fountain scene from that cheesy Lizzie McGuire movie...I don't want to sound like Johnny but I actually did a fountain scene that was justice.
Originally, EZ was going to stand for 'Effusiva Zeta'-effusive meaning expressing in an unrestrained heartfelt manner...yeah, that doesn't work and neither does the name. You think Sullivan was that peeved when the twins whacked him? Laura's another case because she's usually so calm yet timid, and panicky. Looks like Mrs. Carlton is a bit of a shipper, or pretty much sees Laura the way her son does or aware of her son's feelings.
Yeah, trying to get everyone in, especially Carla.
Oh, yeah, the RENEWED toxicity challenge...
Yeah, I'm working on the Homecoming bit, but that's not for a LONG time.
I saved your notes.
Don't worry, they play important roles, especially Mike.
Well, who says Laura can't break the rules? You'll understand later on in the story bigger reasons why she left FT...
Mike had his heart in his mouth the entire time, hoping for one more member to step up.
She loves all her little Oozmas!
Oh, you'll see how bad the panic attacks are...
I'll edit the scene as soon as I can. Yeah, Lizzie's got nothing on Laura.
Yeah, the name didn't hit that 'Oozma Kappa' chord with me...Each of the boys are going to experience 'falling in love'.
You will in the next chapter.
I like Donna, though she's much different from what the notes imply(we were just playing around with her!).
I hoped to see more scenes involving Mike and Sulley, because I would be sad if they are demoted to extras.
True, but that's part of his charm. He's extremely weird. Indeed, hence the term "Fear Tech" dummies.
That is what I am thinking about too. Because I don't think FT would allow their mascot to be stolen again and staying at MU permanently. I love Don, as he is a mature student and has a funny personality.
Hehe, I like the fact she's facing competition, because that would be intense. Indeed, I had my heart in my mouth the entire scene.
She most definitely would. I love the references that they both are practically hinting to be in love with each other. I like how you connect Don and his personality with Randall's predicament. Mrs Carlton is still a loving mother!
That would be a sight to see in Chapter 4. I think Mike would need to teach Laura to take deep breaths like cadence's tips to calm down.
welcome. I am glad to be of help. I am rewriting a little of that scene again, and I will note you on it. I thought I saw that show somewhere, thank you for telling me, I loved the fountain scene! It is so funny and heartwarming! I wanted a pic of it so much! XD
'Effusiva Zeta'? Hmm...interesting I like what you mean in that aspect, but it does sound very nice to me. Sullivan is peeved already when the terry brothers whacked him, and the last whack is what made him snap, and the death glare is also really scary. I can so see Laura's case, and really did establish her character. Hehe, I can so see her helping squishy with his moments with Laura, I am sure she's aware of his feelings for Laura.
Carla is needed most definitely XD Hope to see more other members from other Sororities and Fraternities.
I am so pumped up for it! XD Can't wait to see the announcing of the teams moment!
Hehe, that would be interesting to see. Long time is a good thing, more time to make it awesome.
Thank you so much. (Although I apologise with the Donna part in the Notes, wasn't intentional)
Don't worry, they play important roles, especially Mike.
Well, who says Laura can't break the rules? You'll understand later on in the story bigger reasons why she left FT...
Mike had his heart in his mouth the entire time, hoping for one more member to step up.
She loves all her little Oozmas!
Oh, you'll see how bad the panic attacks are...
I'll edit the scene as soon as I can. Yeah, Lizzie's got nothing on Laura.
Yeah, the name didn't hit that 'Oozma Kappa' chord with me...Each of the boys are going to experience 'falling in love'.
You will in the next chapter.
I like Donna, though she's much different from what the notes imply(we were just playing around with her!).
awesome, because I wouldn't want them to be demoted to extras, they need some story to tell.
I would love to know more about Fear Tech and how they compete with MU.
Same here for me! I was nervous at that scene.
That's sherry carlton for you! XD
Does she need an inhaler?
I will note you when I have finished that scene and made it better. Awesome, nice reference.
I see, hehe, falling in love is an interesting moment for the OK gang
Although I just had this feeling that she doesn't like other people asking where her eyes are (oh, because I would like that to be a special chapter on the duo)
Trust me, this will be a LONG story to tell.
And you'll see why Laura had been so anti-social despite 'popularity'...
She doesn't have asthma. Just a nervous state of mind when she's usually so calm and placid, acting quite mature.
Oh, yeah, I'm sure even OK doesn't know her eyes are on her tail.
awesome, because I had SO MANY IDEAS planned for the future.
I am sure I would like to know that.
Awesome. I see...interesting! She has two versions of herself. XD
True, very few knows. (although I had the idea that she doesn't like monsters getting it wrong)
Uh...just how AU is this thing gonna go? Cause it's looking like you're redeeming Randall. Not complaining; just surprised.
Not an alternate universe...this is, after all, a prequel, and it'll connect to MI later enough.
What few things?
Like more between Theo and Marbus, flashback to when OK was looking for Laura's dorm.
you bet im gonna stay tuned
Holy bejeezus, 51 pages. XD SO MUCH READING 8DD
And the sorority is born! I love the name. Exceeda Zeta..that's basque, ya know. Not sure what for, but I know it's in that language. And awww, Randy's in Oozma Kappa now! Sweet! <3 He looks good in green from what I can imagine. Can I draw a pic of him wearing the Oozma Kappa jacket?
Archie, you rascal. He just loves barging in on things. xD And awww, Squishy's so shy. He's adorable.
This is making me want to write a fic of Sara even more. So, your story is very inspirational. :33 Yet, I've got no idea what the plot should be. XD *forever braindead* Can't wait for the next chappy!
Love those girls.
And I must add, Mrs. Carlton (aka Sherry Squibbles) is so adorable!! You cannot help but love her, she is so easy to love. And when is Laura going to tell that conceited bag of balls to beat it that she is NOT interested? I would pay money to see that happen for reals! Reading this, I wish some of these scenarios happened in the actual movie!
Amazing!! Exceeda Zeta, it has such a good ring to it! I am going to love the next chapter when the Scare Games really start!! I love how you put Randall in Oozma Kappa, I still believe that he was better suited for Oozma Kappa than Roar Omega Roar. And that initiation was so touching! This is getting really good!
I love it when a bunch of friends can just come together like that.
Ha! Katy's paddling thing.
I thought Laura didn't want things to come so 'EZ' to her. XD
All this time I'm thinking what happened to her fire breath? .... No, wait. There it is. I guess it really only comes out when she exhales hard enough. What about when she sneezes like that one guy with the newspaper from the first movie?
A pig acting like a dog? Well, it's not the first time I've seen it. Besides, strange things have pretty much been happening all day.
Great chapter. Can't wait for the next one.
She keeps her sneezes mostly under control...though there are times when she's not so fortunate.
Sorority EZ is gonna blow through the Scare Games!
weit if there just add one members in this story then why did there need one more in the movie after Mike joined?
Did you even read the chapter?
Terri and Terry...Greek council counts bodies, not heads.
i know that but if you count them, don, art, squidy and terri and terry that four members so there just need mike to enter
They got Randy, remember? They need at least FIVE to compete.
i meant in the movie when mike join then they didn't need to have sully. it kind of a plot hole
Al-righty then!
The scare games are on - Laura's got a new team (new friends too), and HALLELUJAH! There's hope for Randall yet! You go girls! And who says there aren't any good Samaritans left?
Their initiation was creative and I LOLed when Laura burned the branch
I'm with E-witch, who wouldn't want to cuddle young Randy? Can't blame Mrs. C.
Plus that photo will certainly going in the album - definitely something memorable
The scare games are on - Laura's got a new team (new friends too), and HALLELUJAH! There's hope for Randall yet! You go girls! And who says there aren't any good Samaritans left?
Their initiation was creative and I LOLed when Laura burned the branch
I'm with E-witch, who wouldn't want to cuddle young Randy? Can't blame Mrs. C.
Plus that photo will certainly going in the album - definitely something memorable
Good, no more of that pop-out page -.-
I mean the new icon avatar, title is batter then last one and yes I read your story. Come on it meddle of the night...with no full moon I wanted to see...TF are bronies.
You really represent Sunset Shimmer, you know that?
And if you mean FT, aka Fear Tech, they're not bronies...they're better than that.
What do you mean by that? I don't even get what this other person is saying.
Cool the scare games are about to start! Glad Laura managed to get a team!
So Randy finally decided to join OK and he's been feeling remorse for what he's done while in ROR??? It's a miracle he didn't hold on to the grudge, hate and bitterness....
It was cute the way Mrs. Carlton was cuddling n kissing him, who wouldn't he's a such a sweetheart. I can see that Monnie likes him for being himself.
Hopefully, Laura can make it clear to 'Bullboy' that she's not interested.
This is so AWESOME *squeals* this made my day so much better! Haha wish i was at a cool university like MU oh well
Oh my gosh, Randy Boggs is OK now? Are you pulling my leg? This is like a dream come true.


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