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The monthly ICM poll for the Guardian is out tonight and has topline figures of CON 34%(+2), LAB 38%(+2), LDEM 12%(-2), UKIP 8%(-1). Changes are since ICM's last poll, conducted at the beginning of the Lib Dem conference. The Labour lead is unchanged, with the Conservatives and Labour both up slightly, but not significantly, following their conferences.
The rest of the poll included questions about Ed Miliband's price freeze for energy bills (61% support the promise, 30% are opposed), Royal Mail privatisation (29% support, 63% oppose) and newspapers publishing details of security service surveillance (58% think papers should back off, 34% think they have a duty to report it. Despite what the Guardian report says about a contrast, there isn't actually a vast difference from what YouGov found in the Sunday Times – they did find more people opposed to the security services monitoring electronic communications than supporting it, but by 43% to 35% people thought the leaking of information about surveillance was a bad thing).
UPDATE: Tom Newton Dunn at the Sun has also tweeted out tonight's YouGov figures, which are CON 37%, LAB 38%, LD 10%, UKIP 10%. The Labour lead of just one point is the smallest YouGov have shown for a couple of weeks, but usual caveats apply – sure, it could be the first sign of a narrowing lead, or it could just be normal variation within the margin of error.
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It's on a knife edge…
Other polls roughly agree with L 38, C 34, but ICM for the Guardian has LibDem 50% more than UKIP on only 8? Leaving aside the actual figures, the equivalent would be a poll showing something like Conservative 42, Labour 28, and who would believe that?
What is (on a knife edge)?
Those who want to I suppose.
and newspapers publishing details of security service surveillance (58% think papers should back off, 34% think they have a duty to report it.
So, polling strongly opposes newspapers publishing details of state security arrangements. Not surprised at this, as it could still backfire at some stage and make us less safe.
Can anyone remind me what the MOE is? Is it about 3%, and the same for all values?
What I'm getting at is that if a party on 35% has an MOE of 3%, then their 'true' VI could be anywhere from 32 to 38%, but a party on 10% could have a 'true' VI of anywhere from 7-13%, which is nearly a 100% variation of their own vote if you see what i mean.
So though the UKIP VI looks low on 8% compared to other polls, it may not mean anything at all.
Just because people believe it doesn't make them correct – you seem to correlate the 'making us less safe' with polling results!
The UK population have shown over the last 30 years that we are happy to believe all that the security services say, bit sad really
Pete B
Can anyone remind me what the MOE is? Is it about 3%, and the same for all values?
We can't be sure till we see the tables which won't be till tomorrow at the earliest (later if there are more questions that they are going to use as the basis of news stories). But in September the pre-adjustment figures were based on a sample size of only 460. Although ICM usually ask around a thousand people by phone, many of these will say they won't vote (11%)[1] don't know how they will (23%) or refused to say for whom (10%). Many of the rest who give a Party will have their vote downgraded if they say they are not sure they will vote or if they didn't vote in 2010.
Reducing the effective sample size to 460 means that MoE is increased from around 3 which is what it would be if all 1000 gave an answer to around 4.5. However this is the MoE for 35-ish percentages (Lab and Con). For 10-ish percents (Lib Dem, UKIP) the MoE will be around 3.
To make an estimate of how people will actually vote in the next GE, ICM then do some reallocation of the Don't Knows and Refused according to their 2010 vote (if they voted and told ICM how) but this does not affect the MoE.
[1] September percentages, but will give an idea.
@Pete B
I think ICM weight by past vote. Tends to hurt UKIP, and probably flatter the,Tories a,little (at UKIP's expense).
"So, polling strongly opposes newspapers publishing details of state security arrangements. Not surprised at this, as it could still backfire at some stage and make us less safe."
What could backfire? The polling result or what you really were trying to say?
but do the 58% feel strongly? Do the 34% feel strongly, only those that feel strongly will make a difference to VI
Funny how those newspapers so jealously protective of their own independence and how significant this is to hold government to account, are the self same newspapers that are so strongly against holding big government surveillance and security to account.
@ Howard (From previous thread)
The Greeks were not the only one… Italy and Belgium also had interesting ways of meeting the Maastricht Treaty criteria…
The UK actually met them for quite a long time (well, interest rates were a bit dodgy). The key thing in UK public finance accounting is the arbitrary classification of investment and current expenditure. Both sides have used it for political games (and vote buying or to put it differently: influencing VI).
The French have so many extra budgetary state funds in public finance that make the IMF weep when publishing the stats (perhaps CL can help them though now).
@Pete B
The confidence interval for a proportion is as follows:
z x SQRT (p x (1-p)/sample size)
z = 1.96 for a 95% confidence interval (that is based on a normal distribution curve 95% of values fall within +/- 1.96 standard deviations.
p = proportion (for Labour @ 40% p = 0.40)
So if a poll of 1000 people ends with 40 % saying they will vote Labour there is a 95% likelihood the true proportion is:
= 1.96 x SQRT (0.40 x (1 – 0.40) /1000)
= 1.96 x SQRT (0.40 x 0.60/1000)
= 1.96 x SQRT (0.24/1000)
= 1.96 x sqrt (0.00024)
= 1.96 x 0.0155 (4 dp)
= 0.0304 (4 dp)
That means there is a 95% likelihood that the true Labour VI is 40% +/- 3.04%
The Lib dems on 10 % are:
= 1.96 x sqrt(0.10 x (1 – 0.10)/1000)
= 1.96 x sqrt (0.10 x 0.90/1000)
= 1.96 x sqrt(0.00009)
= 1.96 x 0.0095 (4 dp)
= 0.0185 (4 dp)
Therefore there is a 95% chance that the LD VI is at 10% +/- 1.85%
ICM Research interviewed a random sample of 1,004 adults aged 18+ by telephone on 11-13th October 2013. Interviews were conducted across the country and the results have been weighted to the profile of all adults.
@Pete B
The true MOE for a samples of 1000, from 0.1 to 0.9 is as follows:
Proportion – 95% CI (+/-)
0.1 – 0.0186
0.2 – 0.0248
0.3 – 0.0284
0.4 – 0.0304
0.5 – 0.0310
0.6 – 0.0304
0.7 – 0.0284
0.8 – 0.0248
0.9 – 0.0186
With statistics you can really can disappear up your own backside just to get the most accurate number.
However, often things are simplified to to make it much easier, while remaining close enough to the true figure to be worth doing.
Also, many aspects of polling are not totally reliable, and the whole thing is based on common assumptions that might not be entirely true. Therefore getting obsessed with an MOE of +/- 1.86 vs an MOE of 3.11 isn't worth it.
RogerMexico and Catmanjeff
Thanks for the clarification. I had an idea the MOE would be lower for smaller VI, but couldn't remember how to prove it.
Thanks. I am aware, for instance, that the rolling performance of the NL deficit (to August) had it down to 2.5% of GDP but that was significantly influenced by the sale of mobile phone frequencies.
Is that Capital or Revenue? I mean, you are essentially selling something you did not have or were unaware that you did have something and suddenly discovered that you could sell it?.
One could easily argue that the fresh air in some countries (Scotland?) could be very profitable.
If the security poll fit the narrative, you guys would be jumping all over it. Because it shows people are against leaking of state security arrangements, you just ignore the poll under the rather sanctimonious liberal left we know best. You cant have it both ways, it is a polling site after all.
"But, it may be exaggerated, or it may not be, but there are a volume of people who are happy not to work and spend a life on benefits. I have seen evidence of this myself.
What doesn't help the argument is some on the liberal left who deny the problem at all and say its a Tory masterplan to turn people against each other. It's ridiculous, and no better than people on the right who exaggerate the problem. It's going to be incredibly difficult and complex to ever crack this problem now given the changing world, globalisation, population etc. (just look at youth employment in parts of Europe"
Thing is Rich, you can focus on those who game the system, gaming which is a pretty inevitable outcome amongst some when facing a hopeless situation – but the problem is there aren't the jobs anyway. It's not going to solve the problem of big welfare bills. Decent-paying jobs solves the problem – we didn't have big welfare issues when we had full employment – and as you point out, creating those is tricky, especially once you've let a region decline, which is one reason why it's a good idea to try to preserve them through a downturn in the first place, like some of our rivals do.
But a lot of this is political. Building affordable housing could be very cost-effective but politically unpalatable. Equally, why focus on those struggling on benefits who're gaming the system because in a position of some hopelessness, when at the top there's tax avoidance, MPs' expenses, and bankers getting bonuses while taking down the economy, causing unemployment and upping the welfare bill?
Also, a lot of these welfare issues arose in the eighties, so it's hardly a leftie plot. I was reading the New Scientist today, and it was talking about another worrying reason to be concerned about unemployment…
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YouGov/Sun poll tonight: Labour lead down to 1% again. LAB 38%, CON 37% LD 10%, UKIP 10%. An outlier, but suggests contraction under way.
i agree in the most part. But the social problems have gone so deep rooted i wonder how we can turn it round. I don't always buy the 80s fault, as so many other countries who didn't have Thatcherite policies are suffering very similar dreadful social and youth unemployment issues. I couldn't agree more on the housing front though.
And the Sun tweets a "gud 'un" again…
Is that the highest Tory score we've had all year?
It is starting to seem like the public aren't really paying that much attention to the politicos. Or at least that the plus points of each side are cancelling each other out.
Perhaps it's true that it's really "the economy, stupid".
Evening everyone
Is that tweet for real?
I think we'd agree on a fair bit, the main sticking point is over whether targeting the gaming isn't tackling symptoms rather than causes. Even without gaming and social problems, there still aren't the jobs, hence, big welfare bill regardless, made bigger during banking crisis and then the cuts.
Thus, a focus on gaming, as opposed to jobs, is unlikely to lead to a solution to the welfare bill.
(With the eighties thing, I was thinking in particular about the mass migration onto incapacity that we hear about, though I'm not sure how big a phenomenon it was, and how much it was encouraged to keep headline figures down…)
@ Neil A
37% for the Tories would their highest polling since March 2012.
I think the YG polling data has been showing an increasing Tory sample for a number of weeks. Then through weighting this has been reduced.
The economy is improving and the government are receiving more positive media coverage. Tories attacking illegal immigrants is popular with some, particularly those who may have looked at UKIP.
Taking back control of the money supply would reduce the deficit very quickly(assuming you want to reduce it) if the govt had keep full control over the money supply it would be 2.1 trillion pounds better off over the course of the last 40 years, that's equivalent to three years of absolutely no taxes
"Perhaps it's true that it's really "the economy, stupid"."
Well, I've made the case before, that for us in the UK, services can matter rather a lot too, but I posted a poll the other day showing public satisfaction with a number of services seems to have grown since the cuts began, which is quite a win for Tories. Question is whether councils etc. can maintain that with further cuts…
(people weren't very happy about the potholes thing however, as unemployment might expect…)
What would the seat count be on those figures?
FPTP is brutal ain't it.
As ONE might expect…
@RogerMexico and Catmanjeff and RAF
Thanks for the comments.
There are two ways in which a measurement can differ from the "true" value.
The first is random error, which in polling is largely dependent on sample size.
The second is that the measurement may be subject to one or more systematic errors. One such will always shift the measurement in the same direction, like measuring a length with a stretched tape, or timing a 100m race starting the watch on the sound of the gun rather than on the puff of smoke. If there is more than one source of systematic error, some may act in one direction, others in the opposite direction. This may give an impression of the result being subject to larger random errors than sample size might indicate, but this is somewhat illusory, for if one systematic error is identified and removed, all the results are shifted in the opposite direction.
However, all the polls purport to be trying to measure VI. The range of results shows clearly that systematic errors are more important than random errors in accounting for differences between pollsters, but there does not seem to me to be enough effort put into identifying them.
eg as RM posted, "ICM then do some reallocation of the Don't Knows and Refused according to their 2010 vote" and RAF said "I think ICM weight by past vote. Tends to hurt UKIP, and probably flatter the,Tories a,little " and I suppose other pollsters apply there own "corrections". But fudging the figures in the light of past experience as to what gets nearest to the eventual actual result is not the same as knowing which part of polling technique throws the answers high and which throws them down.
"if the security poll fit the narrative, you guys would be jumping all over it. Because it shows people are against leaking of state security arrangements, you just ignore the poll under the rather sanctimonious liberal left we know best. You cant have it both ways, it is a polling site after all."
Not really. I would expect people to think that way. It's entirely.unsurprising. My point was that newspapers say they are there to hold the state to account but only do so when it suits their politics. And i'm a liberal not a leftie. Given this is a country built on the fight over centuries for individual liberty from the state, I find it somewhat disappointing that people are so sanguine about returning those freedoms.
That YouGov poll (37, 38, 10, 10) is more a sign of Tory strength than Labour weakness.
The last 1% poll lead back on 19th Sept had Con 34, Lab 35, LD 11, UKIP 11. By contrast, in this one, Lab still hasn't dipped below its post conference floor, which had been reestablished at 38. Note also what's happening to the "Others" in the meantime (SNP, PC, Green, etc). These %s imply that they're down to 5%, compared to just 9% collectively in the previous 1% poll.
That said, I agree fully with @DrunkenScouser (FPT) that Rachel Reeves faffing around pretending that she's IDS on steroids is a lousy way to promote Labour's jobs guarantee for the long term unemployed.
"…Rachel Reeves faffing around pretending that she's IDS on steroids…"
I blame Ian Katz.
Next YouGovPrediction:
Con 34.0%
Lab 38.9%
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Outlier or not, a 1 % is truly worrying for Labour. How long until we see the Tories ahead, and then even maintain a lead?
You'd have to suggest that if in 12 months time the polls are level, the Conservatives would be far happier.
Good news. A little before my time, but I did see it in 80s. And it was genius. Although, in fairness I was more part of the DangerMouse generation.
@Jack R
The Tories can't sustain 35+ without a UKIP dip.
"But a lot of this is political. Building affordable housing could be very cost-effective but politically unpalatable."
I wonder if EM gives a tinker's about any unpalatability of increased building of affordable housing, given the figure of 200,000 p.a. which he has provided as policy. Perhaps you need to add, the "new towns" developments and expansion of existing towns, urban development in decayed areas of London and other cities and related infrastructure, as primary and second phase employment creators. And then, the taking up of unemployment from below, in training and apprenticeships.
May I repeat my question from the last thread?
What is regarded as an acceptable level of unemployment – I mean from a welfare standpoint, rather than as a lever? Is 4 to 5% in the active work force, and 7-8% among young entries to the work force, a level which would represent an acceptable margin of people between jobs and between school and jobs?
@John P
Well, you may think Miliband cares not for palatability, if you think he's never dodged a question, doesn't consider electoral impact of policies, doesn't use focus groups etc.
And I don't need to add anything. Many promises have been made and broken, by Labour as well. And housebuilding does have a politically unpalatable side, since it may not happinate boomers.
That said, politically, as someone else pointed out at the time, Miliband could use housebuilding while mitigating VI effects, by building a shed load in Tory heartlands…
We have a non-polldrums poll for once.
You can't beat Jamie and the Magic Torch.
My prediction is we will see Labour back down to 35's over the next 2 weeks. Their recent bounce was a 'core vote' strategy during the conference and now Yvette Cooper with her 'sensible' verdict on the Tory immigration bill, and Rachel Reeves' "tougher than the Tories on benefits" just killed that bounce. We will see Labour voters moving back to the undecided column. When will we see a UKIP of the left?
With the economy improving, I can't see any way but up, or at least stability for the Tories, so I predict a number of polls showing Tory leads sometime over the next few weeks. (Assuming the US don't destroy the world economy in the meantime)
PETE B That's not how binomial statistics work. MOE is smaller for smaller parties. Roughly speaking if N individual people in a poll say they will vote for UKIP then this comes with a margin of error of +/- sqrt(N)
Answer the question, matey.
"Evening everyone
Is that tweet for real?
Ah…. like the first cuckoo, a sine of a tight poll.
Richard: bet you are wring.
Eh? What question John? You didn't ask me a question…
@John P
Oh, do you mean the question in the last thread you addressed to Rich, lol. There's a degree of unemployment that is somewhat inevitable – churn, people unable to work, people choosing to take time out, maybe for family etc. – though offhand I'm not sure what that figure might currently be.
Beyond that, needless involuntary employment would be something that has commonly understood drawbacks so one might wish to bear down on it. Unless one starts down the citizen income road of course, which is a whole other kettle of fish…
@ John P
There is also the question of things like what to do about carers etc., so it's hard to put a figure on the percentage of natural/inevitable unemployment. But still, one would seek to have enough jobs for all after taking into account churn etc.
Thanks. I think it is the figure, which you're right needs to be verifiable, for the unemployed, 4% good, 6% well Ok, 8% bad that signifies something in the distributive economy, and VI.
The last 1% lead for Labour was 17 polls ago folks.
Do bear in mind that about 1 in 20 (a result of a 95 % confidence interval) polls will look a bit off.
The fact that a two odd looking polls (odd against recent data) are 17 polls apart looks quite normal.


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REYKJAVIK, Iceland, Feb. 13, 2013 /PRNewswire/ -- Boeing [NYSE: BA] and Icelandair announced a firm order today for 16 737 MAX airplanes, valued at more than $1.6 billion at list prices. The order, originally announced as a commitment for 12 airplanes in December 2012, has been increased to 16 airplanes and includes 737 MAX 8s and 9s, as well as purchase rights for eight additional 737 MAXs. Today's announcement brings the total number of 737 MAXs ordered to date to 1,180. "The 737 MAX will complement our Boeing 757 operations seamlessly and allow us to continue our route expansion in the most fuel-efficient manner," said Bjorgolfur Johannsson, Icelandair Group president and CEO.The 737 MAX builds on the strengths of the world's best-selling Next-Generation 737. The 737 MAX incorporates the latest-technology CFM International LEAP-1B engines to deliver the highest efficiency, reliability and passenger comfort in the single-aisle market. Airlines operating the 737 MAX will see a 13 percent fuel-use improvement over today's most fuel-efficient single-aisle airplanes. "The 737 MAX will be an excellent addition to Icelandair's all-Boeing fleet, enabling the carrier to expand its operations across Europe and North America with increased fuel efficiency, route flexibility and passenger comfort," said Todd Nelp, vice president of European Sales, Boeing Commercial Airplanes. The Icelandair Group currently operates an all-Boeing fleet of 23 Boeing 757 airplanes for both its passenger and cargo operations. The Icelandic carrier has used the geographical location of its Reykjavik-based hub mid-way between North America and Europe, as an opportunity to build an ever-growing network of more than 35 international destinations. Contact: Samantha SolomonBoeing Communications+44 (0)20 8235 5665 (office)+1 206 304 8127 (mobile) email@example.com Photo and caption are available here: http://boeing.mediaroom.com See also: http://www.newairplane.com/737max/icelandair/ SOURCE Boeing
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seventy one Dec 29, 2012 4:38 AM
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Sadly you may never know what good that does either. With no acknowledgement and instructions not to rant, only the eventual resolution of the problem will tell you ... and they are getting fewer and further between.
gerhard221 Dec 29, 2012 6:54 AM
in response to Kim Hill1
Hi but this is not true, you can indeed see the cover in Playlist mode even better than ever in iTunes 11
This works also when the track is not playing.
Just choose your playlist, hit the button "view" on the top right and choose grid or artist list and you will get inside your playlist all the cover arts! Not only one of the choosen one in iTunes 10.
so for me it works perfectly and better than ever.
Remember all this "INSIDE" the playlist!
regards Gerhard
Message was edited by: gerhard221 "top right"
Gleeok Dec 29, 2012 8:30 AM
in response to gerhard221
@ gerhard221
"Just choose your playlist, hit the button "view" on the top right and choose grid or artist list and you will get inside your playlist all the cover arts! Not only one of the choosen one in iTunes 10."
That's not what I'm talking about. What you're refering to is the album artwork beside the tunes within the playlist. This discussion is about the little box that used to display the selected song on the bottom left corner. When nothing was selected, or a song without artwork was playing, it would say "no artwork available". And regardless, when I do change it to those views, it rearranges the order of the actual playlist. I spend hours creating playlists in specific orders and I will not change that to a grid view, thank you. And with the artist view, it treats it like a smart playlist from iTunes 10, again, rearranging the order of the whole playlist.
NedimKara Dec 29, 2012 10:06 AM
in response to Gleeok
Agreed, I think the thing that gets me the most isn't the new look of it or the loss of "Cover Flow" but rather the fact that the album artwork isn't displayed in a box on the bottom left hand corner. This is one of the biggest reasons why I dislike iTunes 11. I have been browsing through the forums and you and I are not the only ones with this problem, many other apple customers have updated and are complaining about the lack of artwork. Hopefully, Apple will release an update that returns the artwork cover in the bottom left hand corner feature.
Eddie Strauss Dec 29, 2012 10:10 AM
in response to NedimKara
I don't think it needs to be in the lower left hand corner. But List View is the most full featured with the most selectable information to show. For those whose database contains great detail it is an important view. Now with a lack of separation between albums and no artwork showing at all, it becomes entirely less useful.
We all want the artwork returned somewhere. And what's gone completely is a way to see larger artwork for something in the library that is not selected and playing.
By the way, the large cover you see when something is playing is marred by buttons and controls when you stop the music to examine the cover, as I need to do frequently.
KMITB Dec 29, 2012 10:28 AM
in response to Eddie Strauss
iTunes needs to make your viewing experience more customizable. Everyone of us likes different views...so why not let us choose? I think it's reasonable to be able to go from cover flow to classic view (iTunes 10) to itunes 11.
SkewMatrix Dec 29, 2012 10:31 AM
in response to NedimKara
NedimKara, I could've written that myself.
It is very frustrating that Apple takes away such features and then provides no transition guide, a kind of "here's how you did it before, here's how you do it now". I'd like to think that iTunes 11 is just as capable as iTunes 10 -- that's usually what a version increment implies -- but after playing with the UI a lot, and seeing the complaints online indicating I'm not alone, it seems iTunes 11 is some kind of de-evolution.
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De Nield's Son Dec 29, 2012 12:01 PM
in response to SkewMatrix
i completely agree. itunes11 has taken so many useful features away it's difficult to know where to start.
- Why apple have chosen to remove the album artwork preview at the bottom left corner i have no idea.
- In 'song' view there's not even an option to have any artwork!
- Albums in artist/album/genre view can no longer be sorted by year.
- In album view, the column browser isn't even available but where it is (in artist, genre and playlist views) there is only the option of column browsing by artist, not by album which was previously a good feature.
- When selecting 'get info' on a single song the option to move to the next or previous song is no longer there. Entering track info for new music, should it need it, now takes a month of sundays.
There's plenty more I could mention but life's too short. I just wanted to have a good moan at apple for the hatchet job they've done with itunes. Worst apple software release. Ever!
PhonZeit Dec 30, 2012 7:59 AM
in response to bwg168
There is a way to get rid of the error problem. Download the application Pacifist. This app allows you to install previous versions of iTunes from a disk image and write over any and all existing iTunes system files. So if you have the disk image for iTunes 10.7 open and install it using Pacifist and it will overwrite the frameworks files left by iTunes 11 and all should be well again. Here's a link to a tutorial that explains the procedure in depth. http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=6745EEDC-D375-F653-E33254EEBCA1978C
rhythmdevils Dec 30, 2012 11:23 PM
in response to Kim Hill1
I just upgraded and I would like to throw up on the white floor of an apple store. List view is the only usable view option for anyone with a real music library, and they removed all album artwork! It's a bloody spreadsheet now! *** are they thinking at apple? I can't remember the last time they actually improved a product aside from adding faster processors to the iphone for the last 5 years. They ruined Final Cut Pro after having an absolute monopoly on the industry, turned it into a prosumer piece of garbage, the latest OSX is nothing but annoying changes like forcing me to enter my password every 10 seconds, and now they removed artwork from itunes? *** do I care about no borders around the edge of the window when they removed the artwork???!!! Oh yay, fancy new shading and a new font. I want my album artwork! I don't listen to music to stare at some idiot designer's favorite new font.
I kind of want to learn how to use a PC. Apple seems to only care about idiots who listen to Justin Bieber and make home videos of their kids. They made Final Cut Pro unusable for anyone serious about video, and now they did the same with itunes.
rhythmdevils Dec 30, 2012 11:53 PM
in response to Kim Hill1
The only way I can find to see album artwork bigger than a thumbtack in list view is to open the artwork in a new window. I thought I found a workaround by leaving this separate artwork window in the lefthand corner of the screen, but that window is the movie player, so as soon as you play a movie in itunes, the whole thing gets messed up. Why the FCK is the only way to see album artwork in list view to view it in the movie window, so it gets resized and relocated everytime you watch a movie?
Even the workaround is a total fail.
Maybe the iphone 5s can just be an iphone 5 with no systems preferences, and diamonds all over the back.
The only possible fix I can think of is a plugin or companion app that displays album artwork in a seperate window that we could keep in the corner of our screens. Seems like that probably exists.
MaxSeven777 Jan 1, 2013 6:29 AM
in response to Kim Hill1
I don't understand what everyone is protesting. The list view is available, with album artwork. In the main window, click on Songs in the top bar and sort by whatever criteria you desire. Click on the thumnail of the album art in the play window at the top and the album art appears in a separate window, which you can position and size however you like. Make sure, in Advanced Preferences, you have "Keep MiniPlayer on top of all other windows" and "Keep movie window on top of all other windows" checked. This is a better and more flexible design than the prior version.
If you want the album art in the lower left, just position the window there.
Are people just angry because "it's different" than iTunes 10?
grufnmuf Jan 1, 2013 6:51 AM
in response to MaxSeven777
nope - we're angry because YOUR system doesn't allow me to highlight several tracks at once and then simply drag the artwok that I wish to ascribe to those tracks into the small window on the bottom left - as I always could before.
Also I don't believe that your method allows me to see the 'selected" tune - just the one playing.
MaxSeven777 Jan 1, 2013 8:13 AM
in response to grufnmuf
Okay - but why do you need to "ascribe" new artwork to specifc tracks? I can't see how that is live or die functionality. However, you can drag artwork to the play window at the top if you want to swap artwork. Also, if you want to see the artwork for a "selected tune" while another track is playing, then just switch to album view and you can do that all day long. You can toggle amongst "Songs", "Albums", "Artists" and "Genres" at any time while a song is playing, and select whatever track you desire to see different things.
If anything, there is a great deal more functionality in the new version.
grufnmuf Jan 1, 2013 8:51 AM
in response to MaxSeven777
you are COMPLETELY missing the point here.. I don't NEED to ascibe new artwork - I WANT to do so, as I have been able to do for quite some time now... toggling - switching - why should I have to do all that... I nevr used to have to do it before?
what is the "great deal more functionality" you speak of? What more does it now do than it did before? and why, even if it's such wonderful stuff, was it necessary to REMOVE options in order to make this "great deal more functionality" possible?
Perhaps you could tell us "angry" "protesters" that, eh?


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When in Rome is a 2010 American romantic comedy film directed by Mark Steven Johnson, co-written by Johnson, David Diamond and David Weissman, and starring Kristen Bell and Josh Duhamel. It premiered in the United States on January 29, 2010.
- [last lines]
- Nick: I have a question... why do you keep giving me back my poker chips?
- Beth: Because you deserve to have it back. You threw them into the fountain and wished for love, and I don't want to keep it anymore!
- Nick: [looking confused] No I didn't.
- Beth: You didn't?
- Nick: No!
- Beth: Then who did?
- Nick: I have no idea.
- Beth: Then this... is all real?
- [Nick starts to answer and then stops himself. He climbs into the fountain with Beth and drops the poker chip in the water]
- Nick: This real enough for you?
- Priest: [falling to his knees at the edge of the plaza] Ay, Dios Mio! Free from temptation! Graci!
- Beth: [watching in amazement as the Priest dashes off] Didn't you say, at Umberto's bachelor party...
- Nick: ...the padre cleaned me out at the poker table. Yeah.
- Nick: [repeated line] I didn't see that coming.
- Puck: Six beers enter. No beers leave!
- Did you ever wish for the impossible?
- All is fair in love and Rome.
- Kristen Bell - Elizabeth "Beth" Martin
- Josh Duhamel - Nick Beamon
- Alexis Dziena - Joan
- Peggy Lipton as Priscilla Martin.
- Lucas Calvani - Umberto
- Jon Heder - Lance
- Dax Shepard - Gale
- Will Arnett - Antonio, a.k.a. Anthony or Tony
- Anjelica Huston - Celeste
- Kate Micucci - Stacey
- Danny DeVito - Al Russo
- Don Johnson - Beth's father
- Bobby Moynihan - Puck
- Kristen Schaal - Alona
- Lee Pace - Brady Sacks, Beth's ex-boyfriend
- Alexia Havins - Lacey
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" The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God." PSALM liii. i. There are few who are infidels in belief, but many who are so in practice. There are many who would gladly disbelieve the testimony of nature, and shut their eyes to all the evidences she presents of an intelligent Creator. Having a knowledge of God which, indeed, they cannot shun they do not like to retain him in their thoughts, and even wish that there were no God. He who in his heart seeks to crush out his convictions of the existence and authority of his Maker is declared in the text to be a fool. Let us consider the evidences by which this sentence is sustained. That he who denies
THE FOLLY OF SKEPTICISM. 179 that there is a God, or, believing in his existence, despises his law, is a fool, we attempt to prove from these premises : He rejects the most obvious conclusions of reason ; he delights in low and degrading conceptions of mankind; he glories in his own shame and misery. And, first : He who denies the existence of God is contradicted by the strongest possible evidence. In the world of matter and of mind we are afforded the most conclusive proofs that there exists from eternity a great First Cause. Such is our conviction of the necessary relation and sequence of cause and effect, that whenever our eyes rest upon any object we cannot but refer its origin to some power or agency; and if we behold in that object design, adaptation to an end, we cannot believe its origin casual or accidental, but are forced to connect with the idea of a cause the farther idea of intelligence or design. From the order and adaptation manifested in all the works of nature, the belief in a Supreme Being is forced upon us. If this conclusion be denied, if it be said that it is as reasonable to suppose all things to have existed as they are, uncreated, as to suppose that there is
an intelligent Being who is himself uncreated and eternal, we would meet the denial with such arguments as these : Allowing, indeed, that matter be eternal, we find phenomena connected with matter which cannot be explained by reference to any power or principle inherent in matter itself. Philosophy will demonstrate that matter is in itself wholly passive and inert. Placed in any given state it has no power in itself to change its state. When I see matter at rest I am
l8o THE FOLLY OF SKEPTICISM. assured that it will remain at rest forever, unless some external force shall set it in motion. Set in motion, only external forces can bring it to rest. Such is matter in itself considered. Philosophy declares inertia to be one of its natural properties. But in nature I behold these wonderful phenomena : that which is proven to be, in itself, dead and powerless, is constantly changing its state and assuming motion and life. The grass of the field, the forest tree, and all the forms of vegetable life, from the moss of the rocks to the stately fir, but present to my eye the various forms which matter is constantly assuming. Suppose the earth upon which we live was in the beginning a mass of liquid fire, as geologists suppose, or, as others have fancied, a globe of ice. or a chaos of hard clay ; adopt any theory which gives us matter alone, without animal or vegetable life, and no principle inherent in matter itself will explain their origin. Admitting that, as they now exist, we see in nature the means by which they are perpetuated, their origin must be still referred to a power which is not found in mere matter. And in all those theories of gradual development which have been in our times suggested, there has been found no theorist who dares ignore that fact. But in this argument we have appeared to admit, what no philosopher dares to claim, that there are discoverable in nature principles which explain the perpetuation of animal and vegetable life, if they do not solve the problem of their origin. But even this, we say, none has as yet dared to claim. The growth of the plant, the blooming of the flower, the perpetual decay and
THE FOLLY OF SKEPTICISM. 181 reproduction of animated things, is a mystery too deep for human science, and can only be explained by belief in a God. The botanist can analyze the plant, describe its structure, tell its species, explain to us the functions of its leaves and roots. Chemical analysis may make us acquainted with its constituent elements, and we may determine what are the conditions of heat and moisture, and what are the properties of the soil essential to its growth, and yet in all these things we' do not lay our hands upon the mystery of life. The mode of life we see, but the principle we do not comprehend. The power that resides in the plant puts into action every fibre and vessel to cause roots and leaves to perform their functions, and thus to live and grow is beyond detection. All philosophy teaches that matter alone is powerless, leaving us to the conclusion that all force is spiritual, and that the only answer that can be found for him who asks the cause of such things is, " It is the will of God." As respects animal life, were even the theory of development by natural selection true, it would in no way solve the mystery of life life in its primordial, for we must still refer to a Creator, and the law by which it is developed to the ceaseless exertion of his power, and each species thus developed must be viewed as a new creation. But if neither animal nor vegetable life can spring spontaneously from matter, how shall we account for intelligence, how explain the world of mind ? So far from
182 THE FOLLY OF SKEPTICISM. showing intelligence to be the result of any combination of matter, it cannot even be shown to be necessarily associated with physical organism, or at least upon any stated condition of the physical system. Intelligence is not the result of any combination of mere matter, and can only be regarded as produced by an intelligent agent ;
and, because of the marks of design which appear upon all. things, it is evident that in the order of existence mind was before matter, and that intelligence has directed all the work of the natural world. In this supreme intelligence, which is before all things, and by which all things are directed, we have the idea of God. We talk of the laws of nature, for by this title we are accustomed to designate all the powers by which nature is governed. The effect of these powers is to preserve harmony among all the parts of the universe. Here, then, we behold law and manifest design. But there can be no law or harmonious plan without will. But there is no will in matter, and it can have no design ; so we are led to acknowledge a will by which all the conditions and principles of matter have been determined, and so we arrive again at the idea of an infinite, eternal intelligence. Again, in the very relation which we recognize as subsisting between cause and effect, we are forced, in the order of sequence, to place cause first. We also perceive that the chain cannot be endless, and however far we may propose to trace it backward, we must end at last in the belief in a great First Cause, the fountain of all being. Start from whatever point we choose, pursue whatever line or legitimate method of reasoning we may,
THE FOLLY OF SKEPTICISM. 183 we arrive always at the idea of the Infinite. Here is the end of all inquiries, the solution of all mysteries. Everything in nature proclaims there is a God. To God every path of inquiry leads, as the rivers run into the sea. The mind cannot advance in any direction of thought and escape this conclusion. If it could be shown that there are no marks of design upon anything, no evidences of a controlling will, then only would the existence of such a being become a problem, then only would men have an equal ground to affirm as to deny his existence. But who ever surveys through all the objects around him harmony and adaptation, unity of plan in an infinite variety of parts, infinite existence, universal and unchangeable laws, all things controlled by powers certain, fixed, and uniform who ever beholds all this and yet denies that there is a God,
is a fool, and hath not the perception and understanding of an intelligent being. To such an one nature hath denied the gift of reason, or passion and depravity have dethroned it. The folly of the infidel is exhibited further in the fact that he delights in low and degrading conceptions of mankind. He contemplates himself as the offspring of chance, being without purpose, and left to such destiny as chance may determine. In this view he is no longer superior to the beast. His intelligence ceases to elevate him ; yea, rather is he degraded by it. If all things are the sport of chance, what can man presume to know ? All our convictions of truth are based upon the recognition of fixed, eternal principles ; but with chance nothing
184 THE FOLLY OF SKEPTICISM. is fixed, nothing sure ; the mind dares not accept any conclusion, reason dares not advance a single step, for she finds no firm footing anywhere. Unless he recognize the fact that his powers and faculties are bestowed on him by One whose will is sovereign and unchangeable, and who delights in truth, man dares not trust his own senses to give him a proper conception of anything; in short, truth and reason are but fictions, and man is not elevated by his powers of thought, but only made the more subject to delusion, believing in fictions, pursuing shadows, his own existence being but a fitful dream. Viewed as the child of chance, man is but a piece of animated clay, subject to no certain law ; having no mission to fulfill, his cares, his hopes, his fears, his toil, are for naught. Even intelligence, which is his glory and boast, does not elevate him above inanimate matter, but sinks him below it ; for if there be a higher intelligence by which he is governed, then the existence of a God is acknowledged. But if there be no such superior intelligence, then human intelligence is but the result of a certain combination of matter, and subject to those blind, mechanical laws, which are, under such a supposition, recognized as inherent in matter itself. Intelligence being thus the offspring of mere matter, and controlled by it, becomes clearly inferior, and matter is superior to mind, and man by his intelligence is only degraded below inanimate things.
The belief in a God gives to man a nobility above all the creatures and objects around him, for he perceives that he is endowed with faculties which place him in intimate relation to his Creator. He recognizes in himself
THE FOLLY OF SKEPTICISM. 185 will and intelligence as attributes of divinity which he possesses only in an inferior degree. While he feels these powers he cannot but claim kindred with the Deity, and know that there is imparted to him some part of that nature which constitutes the glory and perfection of the Eternal, and which is itself, therefore, imperishable. With what exalted hopes, what glorious aspirations, do these convictions fill the human bosom ! Mind is no longer inferior to matter, man rises above the visible and material the great globe, the vast universe, is nothing to him ; and, secure in his own existence, he smiles at the thought that all these may perish and be dissolved. Upon these convictions is founded all that is great in human character, all that is sublime in human achievements ; for there is no longer anything to call forth our admiration if the highest motives which it is possible for man to feel have their origin in his own passions or desires, or result from the fear and authority of a being like himself. Who is he, then, who would tear from man the crown of divinity, forbid these desires, and destroy that faith which is the source of his happiness, and degrade him lower than the very dust upon which he treads ? From the inspired king of Israel an answer comes down to us through living ages, confirmed by every testimony of nature and of reason, declaring that " he is a fool" or is it possible upon any ground for the skeptic to escape the conviction of his folly. For even if it be granted that man's belief in God is but a delusion, his hope of immortality a vain dream that man, with all his
varied powers, is but a chance creation, brought into being and destroyed by some blind, relentless power, still would it be the highest folly to seek to destroy those beliefs, which in every age he hath cherished, and without which he is made an orphan and exile. o Father in heaven to watch over him, no light, no counsel to guide him, no purpose or motive to direct his life, finding no object worthy of his love, and himself unworthy the love or sympathy of his kind ! Let it not be answered, that it is nevertheless best that man should give up delusions, however dear, in order to know the truth. For if there be no hereafter, then what is truth ? what will the love or knowledge of truth avail ? If the present is the whole of life, then it is man's wisdom to make it as happy as he may, no matter if it be by a delusion. Even errors believed are present realities to our own minds, and if it be true that there is no future state, man shall never wake to his errors, or suffer disappointment for having believed falsehoods. Even then, if this hope be a delusion, nothing can be so much to my interest, nothing can so promote my happiness, as that this dream of eternal felicity should still maintain its power over me, soothe the afflictions of life, and charm away my pains and fears when I sink into the eternal slumber. But it is not for the skeptic even to talk of truth, or pretend to despise error. That view which regards all things as the sport of chance makes the knowledge of truth impossible, as we have already shown ; it offers no foundation on which any firm belief can be rested. It gives the same character of uncertainty to every conclu-
THE FOLLY OF SKEPTICISM. 187 sion. It declares that man's inevitable fate is to believe in unsubstantial theories to pursue phantoms and shadows until he returns to dust. Surely there can be no greater exhibition of folly than that one should profess to despise me for my errors, and yet claim that to err, and err only continually, is the destiny of man. Last of all, the folly of the skeptic is seen in this, that he glories in his own misery, and seeks, moreover, for knowledge in attempting to prove that nothing can be known. He seeks, we say, to expose his own shame
and to increase his misery. He desires to be recognized as possessing no spiritual nature, no moral character, to be governed by no obligation. He claims that virtue and vice are imaginary distinctions. He declares reason to be a liar, and conscience but a bugbear. He laughs at the sacredness of principle, and acknowledges no obligation but the present necessity. The most illustrious virtues and the most shocking crimes are in his sight only distinguished by the conventionalities of society or the caprice of human legislators, and the philanthropist and'the highwayman are regarded as worthy of the same destiny. For these sentiments and views the infidel desires to be honored ; for, after all, it is manifest that a conceited pride, and a vain desire to appear wise, are the motives which lead men to such a course they would attract attention by the singularity of their conduct. They openly contradict the common sense of mankind, and for this desire to be called philosophers. They oppose themselves to everything that is sacred and dear to humanity, and for this they would be called benefac-
l88 THE FOLLY OF SKEPTICISM. tors of the human race. They assert that nothing can be known, and spread over man's prospects the shadows of uncertainty, or the gloom of palpable despair ; and for this they call themselves the lights of the world. Thus in their shame do they glory, and by their folly do they seek reputation for wisdom. And while they make such effort to win applause or to be esteemed wise by a creature so wretched and miserable as they represent man to be, they prove themselves to be the slaves of creatures like themselves, and thus degraded even below their species. The skeptic is an open foe to the happiness of man. Even those who scoff at religion, and deny moral obligation to a higher power, have recognized the utility of those laws and restraints adopted among men for the regulation of human conduct. But nothing is more absurd than to acknowledge the importance and necessity of human law, and yet oppose those principles and convictions upon which alone the authority of the law depends. It is only in these convictions of moral obligation that human laws find their sanction and strength. Show that
justice is not a fixed, eternal principle, and that there is no being greater than man to whom we shall answer for our conduct, and every power competent to restrain human actions is removed, and no man cares longer either to obey or enforce the law. Remove from man the fear of God, and even the name of justice would be heard no more ; confusion, anarchy, treachery, would reign everywhere ; the proudest empires would fall into ruin at once; the instinct of self-preservation, triumphing
THE FOLLY OF SKEPTICISM. 189 over every feeling beside, would make men fierce and tameless as the tiger. Such would be the state of man if what the infidel teaches were believed. When we consider the folly, the absurdity of his doctrine, and the terrible consequences which its belief would bring upon man, he who denies the existence of God appears no longer simply a fool. othing but the most fearful depravity could lead to such a course. It is not the weakness of his intellect so much as the wickedness of his heart which impels man to such a course. Greek and Roman fables tell of the Titans who attempted to ascend into heaven and dethrone the Omnipotent, but theirs is a folly more insane and desperate. God hath written his law upon all his works, yea, even upon the human heart. Here is his eternal record, and while suns shine or planets roll, while intelligent beings exist to behold the wonders of this vast creation, there will not be wanting either proof of God's existence or the conviction of his authority. " Why do the heathen rage and the people imagine a vain thing ; the kings of the earth set themselves and the rulers take counsel together, saying, ' Let us break their bands asunder and cast away their cords from us ? ' He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh, and the Lord shall have them in derision."
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